Angeles City

[Goferring]

Thank you for the observations. Based on this and another post, perhaps the best plan of action might be to discretely get phone numbers in the bars for side action during the day. If it works, I'll post it. Cheers, Bob.You could try that or there are a few girls from K bars working over time online to escape Angie's concerns. It gives them an anonymous way to meet guys outside work hours, regardless of nationality.

Likely not the absolute prettiest but certainly attractive and you will have to battle past the usual scammers and so-so performers to find those that will actually show up and perform adequately.

Pina Love seems to have the most working bar girls in AC. Elsewhere I'd use Tinder or IG.

Give it a go and report back.

Enjoy. G.

[Beavis]

You could try that or there are a few girls from K bars working over time online to escape Angie's concerns. It gives them an anonymous way to meet guys outside work hours, regardless of nationality.

Likely not the absolute prettiest but certainly attractive and you will have to battle past the usual scammers and so-so performers to find those that will actually show up and perform adequately.

Pina Love seems to have the most working bar girls in AC. Elsewhere I'd use Tinder or IG.

Give it a go and report back.

Enjoy. G.That is a plan but there are many obstacles. Get as many numbers as you can, ask if they have Whatsapp? The strike rate is between 10% to 40% that they even answer. Most common excuse is "I don't have load. " It is easy to risk 20 pesos and send them a load then that kills that excuse. Also "my phone is broken. " Then like was said you have to go through several to find one that is worthy of repeat action. You might get lucky and hit a home run, you might hit fouls all day or you might strike out. Send them a text as soon as you get the number to see if they answer. Once you have added their contact, their number will pop up in whatsapp. That will usually show if they are online. It works but usually requires a cull process. You would think that most of them would jump all over a side hustle but it depends on how many ladies drinks they had the night before or how motivated they are. Many of them can barely get their ass to work on time so expecting them to get moving early sometimes is expecting too much.

No exact formula but if they play outside of the club most will have whatsapp. They always know where they can get online. Also you will find the ones that you have no desire to see again will constantly keep texting you and the ones that you want to see again sometimes won't answer. Usually that is because you are just one of many side penises she has besides her trike driver boyfriend. When you figure out a formula for this please share.

[Dg8787]

I like to know who my audience is. I assume others might as well. If not, they can disregard.

That's my only answer. Cheers.My apology. It read to me like you might be expecting special entitled treatment because of your citizenship.

My mistake.

[Goferring]

That is a plan but there are many obstacles. Get as many numbers as you can, ask if they have Whatsapp? The strike rate is between 10% to 40% that they even answer. Most common excuse is "I don't have load. " It is easy to risk 20 pesos and send them a load then that kills that excuse. Also "my phone is broken. " Then like was said you have to go through several to find one that is worthy of repeat action. You might get lucky and hit a home run, you might hit fouls all day or you might strike out. Send them a text as soon as you get the number to see if they answer. Once you have added their contact, their number will pop up in whatsapp. That will usually show if they are online. It works but usually requires a cull process. You would think that most of them would jump all over a side hustle but it depends on how many ladies drinks they had the night before or how motivated they are. Many of them can barely get their ass to work on time so expecting them to get moving early sometimes is expecting too much.

When you figure out a formula for this please share.Your comments are correct but I'd respectfully suggest that they only apply to those who allow it to happen.

I don't have a guaranteed formula for success but it's easy to quickly week out the time wasters and / or validate available girls. Remember, it's AC and a hookup site so very little risk of offending girls by quickly getting to the point.

Q1: if you want to meet in Hotel X send your WhatsApp number. Shows that I'm in town now, ready to go and not a time waster.

Q2 (immediate reply on WhatsApp): Deal breaker conditions. You ok with nasal sex while playing an oboe and bouncing on a Pogo stick??

Typical A2: Sure. How much?

Q3: Agree on finances. Meet at Hotel X? Note that agreeing to meet "later" or "after work" is a recipe for disaster if she is otherwise busy or flakes for any number of reasons.

None of these girls care if you like cute dogs or walks at sunset.

More times than not, she shows up, you watch her play the oboe and, and if you like her, keep her number.

Are there times that it spirals out of control and doesn't go to plan? Sure.

Are there times when a good time is had by all? Of course.

Is there the rare occassion when you find a stunning needle in the haystack? Unlikely but not never.

As usual YMMV but I've found that when girls know I'm here and expecting to meet now, then the scammers, no load girls and dying buffaloes don't even worry to reply or question me. There target is the love struck Romeo's, wanting to chat forever before meeting if they arrive "next month".

Enjoy. G.

[SAInterested]

Hi All,

I am an occasional lurker, so I don't post much. However, I felt compelled to share whatever minor experiences I have as others before have done so frequently.

I was in the Philippines for a week visiting with friends who are family from the United States. They were so gracious to show me around, I I really loved the experience of island-hopping. There are some really great places in the Philippines for a tourist to visit.

However, I was getting ready to leave the Philippines, I wanted to make sure that I had at least one day to hobby on my own. My friends all thought that I would head straight back to the US, but upon landing in Manila, I took the Genesis bus directly to Angeles City.

First, I would like to give a shout out to DC8787 for taking the time to guide me with key pieces of information, including where to get the bus, and what clubs to visit, and what is the going rate.

AT around 7:15 pm, I started browsing along walking street. I walked from one end of the street to the other end to get an idea of what the talent has to offer.

Along the way, there were some decent looking ladies in front of the clubs. Some had uniforms on (such as red) while others just dressed provocatively.

I wasn't sure if all the ladies on display were for the taking. I was invited into two of the bars to see the sample talent in a couple of the bars. However, I decided to keep going before I see commit so that I could see what options there are.

I then go to, what I think, is the last bar called Penguin Bar. It has a restaurant attached to it.

Upon entering, I saw about 12 ladies on stage dancing. There was one who stood out. On my scale, maybe a 6. 5. I do want to point out that I have a friend who said I have an unrealistic scale rating of ladies where my six is equivalent to his 8 or 8.5, so take this for what it is worth.

She was called down to sit with me and of course I was asked the customary question of whether to buy her a drink. The going rate there was P3000 for short time and P4000 for long time. I was told long time was until 6 am.

I asked her if I get long time, how many shots would be allowed and she said two. She was firm with that. I opted to check for another one, and the lady called another one down who did not catch my attention at first. The bar lady said that this one was good service, and I decided to sit with her and of course buy her drink.

Surprisingly, she was one of the few Pinoys whom I met whose English was actually limited.

Like the previous one, she also informed me of the two shots max criteria even for long time.

I felt a good vibe, so I decided to take her.

We left at 9 pm And walk back to my hotel / apartment. We did the deed. Upon seeing her in the room, her face was actually decent. I would give her a 6. Keep in mind as I walked along the street, I did not see anyone whom I would consider giving an 8 to. On my scale, and 8 is like a Charlize Theron in her prime.

She was actually quite good at love making, and I thoroughly enjoyed my experience with her.

I then asked if she wanted to get a massage and that we could walk to a nearby massage parlor to get one. This place opens until 2 am She obliged to go with me but she declined the offer of getting one as well and waited for me while I enjoyed my oil massage, which cost P400/ hour.

After this, we went to eat at a Korean restaurant directly across from her club. We then went back to the hotel for round two.

I was spent, and I offered for her to leave early and not stay until 6 am. She said, "you are going to sleep?" and I replied yes.

Since I was pleased with her, I gave her a P500 tip and she seemed happy with it, based on her smile.

All in all, a decent experience.

It was a one day thing, so I don't have much in terms of comparison to others.

Thanks for reading.

And again, thanks DG8787 for your suggestions and assistance.

Cheers.

[Beavis]

Your comments are correct but I'd respectfully suggest that they only apply to those who allow it to happen. My post was simply to illustrate that many of the girls are difficult to contact as in won't answer their phones or texts. How do you not allow them to not respond LOL?

[VictorHugo999]

Hi friend,

BTW, did you get your quota of 2 X by 2 am? So as to offer early release?

Victor.


Hi All,

I am an occasional lurker, so I don't post much. However, I felt compelled to share whatever minor experiences I have as others before have done so frequently.

I was in the Philippines for a week visiting with friends who are family from the United States. They were so gracious to show me around, I I really loved the experience of island-hopping. There are some really great places in the Philippines for a tourist to visit.

However, I was getting ready to leave the Philippines, I wanted to make sure that I had at least one day to hobby on my own. My friends all thought that I would head straight back to the US, but upon landing in Manila, I took the Genesis bus directly to Angeles City.

First, I would like to give a shout out to DC8787 for taking the time to guide me with key pieces of information, including where to get the bus, and what clubs to visit, and what is the going rate.

AT around 7:15 pm, I started browsing along walking street. I walked from one end of the street to the other end to get an idea of what the talent has to offer.

Along the way, there were some decent looking ladies in front of the clubs. Some had uniforms on (such as red) while others just dressed provocatively.

I wasn't sure if all the ladies on display were for the taking. I was invited into two of the bars to see the sample talent in a couple of the bars. However, I decided to keep going before I see commit so that I could see what options there are.

I then go to, what I think, is the last bar called Penguin Bar. It has a restaurant attached to it.

Upon entering, I saw about 12 ladies on stage dancing. There was one who stood out. On my scale, maybe a 6. 5. I do want to point out that I have a friend who said I have an unrealistic scale rating of ladies where my six is equivalent to his 8 or 8.5, so take this for what it is worth.

She was called down to sit with me and of course I was asked the customary question of whether to buy her a drink. The going rate there was P3000 for short time and P4000 for long time. I was told long time was until 6 am.

I asked her if I get long time, how many shots would be allowed and she said two. She was firm with that. I opted to check for another one, and the lady called another one down who did not catch my attention at first. The bar lady said that this one was good service, and I decided to sit with her and of course buy her drink.

Surprisingly, she was one of the few Pinoys whom I met whose English was actually limited.

Like the previous one, she also informed me of the two shots max criteria even for long time.

I felt a good vibe, so I decided to take her.

We left at 9 pm And walk back to my hotel / apartment. We did the deed. Upon seeing her in the room, her face was actually decent. I would give her a 6. Keep in mind as I walked along the street, I did not see anyone whom I would consider giving an 8 to. On my scale, and 8 is like a Charlize Theron in her prime.

She was actually quite good at love making, and I thoroughly enjoyed my experience with her.

I then asked if she wanted to get a massage and that we could walk to a nearby massage parlor to get one. This place opens until 2 am She obliged to go with me but she declined the offer of getting one as well and waited for me while I enjoyed my oil massage, which cost P400/ hour.

After this, we went to eat at a Korean restaurant directly across from her club. We then went back to the hotel for round two.

I was spent, and I offered for her to leave early and not stay until 6 am. She said, "you are going to sleep?" and I replied yes.

Since I was pleased with her, I gave her a P500 tip and she seemed happy with it, based on her smile.

All in all, a decent experience.

It was a one day thing, so I don't have much in terms of comparison to others.

Thanks for reading.

And again, thanks DG8787 for your suggestions and assistance.

Cheers.

[Dg8787]

Hi All,

I am an occasional lurker, so I don't post much. However, I felt compelled to share whatever minor experiences I have as others before have done so frequently.

I was in the Philippines for a week visiting with friends who are family from the United States. They were so gracious to show me around, I I really loved the experience of island-hopping. There are some really great places in the Philippines for a tourist to visit.

However, I was getting ready to leave the Philippines, I wanted to make sure that I had at least one day to hobby on my own. My friends all thought that I would head straight back to the US, but upon landing in Manila, I took the Genesis bus directly to Angeles City.

First, I would like to give a shout out to DC8787 for taking the time to guide me with key pieces of information, including where to get the bus, and what clubs to visit, and what is the going rate.

AT around 7:15 pm, I started browsing along walking street. I walked from one end of the street to the other end to get an idea of what the talent has to offer.

Along the way, there were some decent looking ladies in front of the clubs. Some had uniforms on (such as red) while others just dressed provocatively.

I wasn't sure if all the ladies on display were for the taking. I was invited into two of the bars to see the sample talent in a couple of the bars. However, I decided to keep going before I see commit so that I could see what options there are.

I then go to, what I think, is the last bar called Penguin Bar. It has a restaurant attached to it.

Upon entering, I saw about 12 ladies on stage dancing. There was one who stood out. On my scale, maybe a 6. 5. I do want to point out that I have a friend who said I have an unrealistic scale rating of ladies where my six is equivalent to his 8 or 8.5, so take this for what it is worth.You are welcome. Glad you had a good time.

[Goferring]

My post was simply to illustrate that many of the girls are difficult to contact as in won't answer their phones or texts. How do you not allow them to not respond LOL?Sure. I'd totally agree with that. I'd probably get a 50% response rate in the foreigner friendly areas but it's a lot lower out in the provinces etc.

This can be both a positive and a negative. Negative bcs it's more work but positive bcs it is a quick sort of the girls that were never going anywhere anyway. Its a major PITA to burn up time only to find she's not interested in meeting or fucking and only wants a chat mate. Its surprising the number of girls who will chat forever but are terrified of actually meeting a random foreigner face to face.

Cheers. G.

[Beavis]

Sure. I'd totally agree with that. I'd probably get a 50% response rate in the foreigner friendly areas but it's a lot lower out in the provinces etc.

This can be both a positive and a negative. Negative bcs it's more work but positive bcs it is a quick sort of the girls that were never going anywhere anyway. Its a major PITA to burn up time only to find she's not interested in meeting or fucking and only wants a chat mate. Its surprising the number of girls who will chat forever but are terrified of actually meeting a random foreigner face to face.

Cheers. G.You are totally correct. 50% is probably a fair assessment of response rate however many of them are very slow to reply. It's a game, I usually text about 5 and wait to see who responds. Then chose the best performer but of course with a back up text to the one in second place. That's what is great about Whatsapp you can tell when they read the text.

[Locamotive]

You do realise that there is roughly 170 million females in the usa, are you trying to say that due to 170 million american girls diets their pussies stink, the mind boggles at some claims it really does.

Trying to claim that asian pussies on the whole smell less is just not true, you do realise that anything like menstrual cycle, normal discharge, bacterial vaginosis, Trichomoniasis can and does occur regularly in girls pussies the world over causing a fishy smell including of course asian pussies.

But What we are discussing here is not slight fishy smells but 10 week old rotten fish smell that can't be scrubbed away regardless of how much washing one does on a girls pussy.

These pussies are usually desease pussies to smell that bad, how does a girl get a desease pussy well by letting thousands of paying strangers that have previously had sex with thousands of other possibly desease prostitutes the world over ejaculate in their pussies normally several times per day by multiple guys.

It does not take a rocket scientist to work out the much higher risks of pussy desease and therefore possible foul smells amongst the angeles girls that are selling their pussy and having unprotected sex with multiple punters, looking at the facts then to suggest asian pros are imune to desese and therefore smelly pussy is far from true IMHO.Yes and I also realize there are million's of Honda's on the road. But if you bought 25 of them and they all sucked, would you buy another one, I doubt it. About 6 months or so ago I've noticed a commercial here on TV in US. A middle aged or a bit less blonde woman is advertising this cream called Lume. She says don't stink use this on your arm pits and crack which she demonstrates and smell good all day. This is hilarious! . Someone noticed this problem besides me and made a product for this and advertised. I understand the disease issue but that's not what this is, women here generally smell and we have developed a cream for you. . In my 10 plus years in Asia I can count the smelly ones on one hand, in America it was all of them. I'm through buying Honda's so to speak. Maybe I had bad luck in 30+years but I'm done. Its a good thing, more white women for you. Enjoy!

[Dg8787]

I learned long ago there are participants and spectators in life. Same as in Angeles here.

I listen more to the participants than the sideline coaching from the spectators.

Choose wisely.

Will be coming up with post about beauty and scoring meet up soon.

[SAInterested]

Hi friend,

BTW, did you get your quota of 2 X by 2 am? So as to offer early release?

Victor.Short time is P3000 and long time is P4000.

I had already paid the barfine at the bar P4000 for long time, so letting her go early as I was tired was my choice and it never crossed my mind to try to negotiate some money back. The lady was willing to stay the whole time, though.

[Dg8787]

At 6:00 pm, July 14,2023 NS and I are having drinks at Lollipop Bar to reconcile our standards of beautiful girls and whether there is a 2 tier bar fine system or not. We are on opposite ends of the scale and probably won't change. Need your help in this.

NS knows the owner and manager. I am suggesting and inviting other mongers to join in for a drink and grading. First drinks are on me. All are invited. The system is to tell the waitress you are here with NS and she will inform the manager and or owner. As I will do the same.

If you wish to remain anonymous and just want to file a field report please feel free to do so.

Looking forward to this.

[KumuMan]

At 6:00 pm, July 14,2023 NS and I are having drinks at Lollipop Bar to reconcile our standards of beautiful girls and whether there is a 2 tier bar fine system or not. We are on opposite ends of the scale and probably won't change. Need your help in this.

NS knows the owner and manager. I am suggesting and inviting other mongers to join in for a drink and grading. First drinks are on me. All are invited. The system is to tell the waitress you are here with NS and she will inform the manager and or owner. As I will do the same.

If you wish to remain anonymous and just want to file a field report please feel free to do so.

Looking forward to this.He knows the owner and manager and has over 1 week before meeting Hmm. That is a lot of in between time.

[VictorHugo999]

I'm sure she appreciated that =) provide a return exp if you come again.

Victor.


Short time is P3000 and long time is P4000.

I had already paid the barfine at the bar P4000 for long time, so letting her go early as I was tired was my choice and it never crossed my mind to try to negotiate some money back. The lady was willing to stay the whole time, though.

[TjBrazil]

Short time is P3000 and long time is P4000.

I had already paid the barfine at the bar P4000 for long time, so letting her go early as I was tired was my choice and it never crossed my mind to try to negotiate some money back. The lady was willing to stay the whole time, though.When you pay 4 K barfine is that just for the bar and then you have to give the girl 3 or 4 k for sex.

[Dg8787]

He knows the owner and manager and has over 1 week before meeting Hmm. That is a lot of in between time.Come join us 6 pm, July 14,2023. I repeated the time and date so there is no confusion.

Tell them you are with the Nappa group.

[NapaSlapper]

At 6:00 pm, July 14,2023 NS and I are having drinks at Lollipop Bar to reconcile our standards of beautiful girls and whether there is a 2 tier bar fine system or not. We are on opposite ends of the scale and probably won't change. Need your help in this.

NS knows the owner and manager. I am suggesting and inviting other mongers to join in for a drink and grading. First drinks are on me. All are invited. The system is to tell the waitress you are here with NS and she will inform the manager and or owner. As I will do the same.

If you wish to remain anonymous and just want to file a field report please feel free to do so.

Looking forward to this.Who said I had agreed to drinks at 6 pm on the 14th, it takes two to make arrangements, not just your good self to agree a time and date by your self without consulting the other party to see if they can make that time and date, I had specifically asked you to send me a private pm to make arrangements that suits both parties which you did not.

Obviously had you asked instead of just charging ahead and making your own arrangements then you would have been informed that I am not even in angeles city for the next 7 days because some of us run busy companys and travel often on business.

Morale of the story, quite happy to buy you a beer at a convenient time and date to both parties. As far as comparing girls, no need, I already know that our tastes differ greatly, how do I know, simple, where you claim to see and barfine many great looking 8+ girls from lollipop bar me and many many barhop friends never see even 1 girl we would even buy a drink for let alone barfine in lollipop bar.

As always beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so in such I'm glad you manage to find your type of girls, of course your type of girls does not mean any one else would be happy with them, anyways, safe trip.

[NapaSlapper]

A few thoughts if I may on the last few weeks in angeles.

Where over the last few months the week day nights saw a fair few expats and asians in the westerner and asian bars they were never busy, some bars even no customers, some bars doing just ok.

The weekends were a different story, Friday and Saturday nights would see the number of visiting asian guys double / treble and even though the western bars remained quiet the asian bars would be rocking, guys spending big money in the asian bars, sitting with multiple girls, buying multiple lady drinks, tipping everyone, throwing handfulls of money at the girls on stage etc.

What has happened over the last few weekends is that although the asian number do go up a bit its nowhere as much as before, it seems that even those asians that are in town are not inviting so many girls to sit, yes they all have 1 each at the table where as before 2 or 3 guys would be buying drinks for 6/7 girls at the same time.

Hotels seem to be very quiet, the roads seem to be much quieter, the dance clubs that were once busy are now opening just weekend and then the most clients to the dance clubs are pinoys out with other pinoys.

Where there were not so long ago many massage girls in walking street these seem to have completely disapeared, where recently one could see some street walker girls these too are much fewer, what is about the same number is the lady boys outside phillies, they seem to get taller, butcher and more pushy by the day, viagra sellers, cigarette sellers, trike drivers all are getting more desperate for punters and of course more agressive with it.

P. s, please note, no arrangements have been made by my self for drinks with member dg8787 for the 14,7,23,it seems he made the arrangements of time and date on his own without consulting availability, thanks.

[Breadman]

I have to say I really like living here in Angeles city, in my head for years it was always Pattaya and the move here was sorta unplanned. The bars don't compare at all to Pattaya but they give you something to do. If you live on the main drag in Pattaya you have those the baht buses. Here you have the trike mafi. Never hop in a trike here and say take me to this place if it involves lots of weaving around different streets, the price at the end will be double what booking a trike using the GRAB app will run you. What sets this place apart is the girls. I'm not talking the Asian dolls the Koreans take but the natural lookers. Yeah you'll get the scammers, be ready for the bullshit. But in most cases there are just some really nice girls here who go well over the wham bam thank you maam rouitine. I've got a girl who comes over after a long day at school and doesn't eat anything but breakfast and I'll have the food ready for her to do the cooking. She strips naked and puts on an apron. Other day she brought over an equally cute friend and they were both cooking up a storm while naked. After dinner into the bedroom for a fantastic threesome. Later they go out on my balcony to have a smoke and chill NAKED. And its not like I'm in a secluded high rise.

Lately I've been getting friend requests on facebook from many of the working girls around this area. I chatted one up and made arrangements for 1500 for short time, had her meeting me on walking street. Before the meet told her 'I also need a good BJ tonight'. Just wanted to make sure they don't say 'I don't do that' when they show up. Her reply was a simple 'NO'. That answer right there set off the warning bells, not worth bothering with an unknown if they are going to give abrupt answers like that. She then says 3000 short time. To which I laughed and said 'just stay home'. The warning bells were right.

So then I'm just planning on going out for some beers and hit a few bars and step into a Korean joint. Place was hopping, lots of girls at 6 pm with few customers. And I'm getting the stares from a girl on the stage that is just perfect for me. Kept looking and every time she could she looked over, most of the other girls were keeping their eyes on the mirror behind me. So I get her a drink and right off the bat I ask for her number. Sure. Pull out the phone and she keys it in. Hasn't been here long but hates the Koreans making her dance from 10 am to 7 pm with little breaks. I then take off and meet her down the street. And she shows up with a friend. More the merrier, had food in the fridge and let them cook themselves dinner after working those shitty hours. Then who calls them? Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should. I took my girl into the bedroom while her friend kept cooking and had a great time for 2000 vs spending 5000 on a barfine.

[Goferring]

... Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should...Sad to say but mongering isn't always full of happy faces and fun times. Especially so behind the scenes.

Koreans aren't exactly known for their progressive employee relations and focus on being employers of choice, so it's no surprise that they expect their pound of flesh in return for the higher wages that they pay.

Their attitudes towards nationalities that they see as beneath them wouldn't exactly help either.

I'm not saying it's right, just that it's what happens in the real world.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

When you pay 4 K barfine is that just for the bar and then you have to give the girl 3 or 4 k for sex.Barfines in Angeles are all in and paid upfront, before leaving the bar. That's why there are so many bad reports of poor performance, early runners etc: she's already been paid.

If you're super happy, then you can add a tip. 1000 is being very generous.

Pretty much everywhere else is pay first to get her released from work then negotiate an agreed amount for her time and services. Typically this portion is paid as she is leaving.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

My mistake but I will be still buying first round 6 pm, July 14,2023. One lucky winner will get 1 k prize money for 3500 bar fine girl for your inconvenience.

[Expat American]

I have to say I really like living here in Angeles city, in my head for years it was always Pattaya and the move here was sorta unplanned. The bars don't compare at all to Pattaya but they give you something to do. If you live on the main drag in Pattaya you have those the baht buses. Here you have the trike mafi. Never hop in a trike here and say take me to this place if it involves lots of weaving around different streets, the price at the end will be double what booking a trike using the GRAB app will run you. What sets this place apart is the girls. I'm not talking the Asian dolls the Koreans take but the natural lookers. Yeah you'll get the scammers, be ready for the bullshit. But in most cases there are just some really nice girls here who go well over the wham bam thank you maam rouitine. I've got a girl who comes over after a long day at school and doesn't eat anything but breakfast and I'll have the food ready for her to do the cooking. She strips naked and puts on an apron. Other day she brought over an equally cute friend and they were both cooking up a storm while naked. After dinner into the bedroom for a fantastic threesome. Later they go out on my balcony to have a smoke and chill NAKED. And its not like I'm in a secluded high rise.

Lately I've been getting friend requests on facebook from many of the working girls around this area. I chatted one up and made arrangements for 1500 for short time, had her meeting me on walking street. Before the meet told her 'I also need a good BJ tonight'. Just wanted to make sure they don't say 'I don't do that' when they show up. Her reply was a simple 'NO'. That answer right there set off the warning bells, not worth bothering with an unknown if they are going to give abrupt answers like that. She then says 3000 short time. To which I laughed and said 'just stay home'. The warning bells were right.

So then I'm just planning on going out for some beers and hit a few bars and step into a Korean joint. Place was hopping, lots of girls at 6 pm with few customers. And I'm getting the stares from a girl on the stage that is just perfect for me. Kept looking and every time she could she looked over, most of the other girls were keeping their eyes on the mirror behind me. So I get her a drink and right off the bat I ask for her number. Sure. Pull out the phone and she keys it in. Hasn't been here long but hates the Koreans making her dance from 10 am to 7 pm with little breaks. I then take off and meet her down the street. And she shows up with a friend. More the merrier, had food in the fridge and let them cook themselves dinner after working those shitty hours. Then who calls them? Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should. I took my girl into the bedroom while her friend kept cooking and had a great time for 2000 vs spending 5000 on a barfine.Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave. Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.

[MoonShot]

Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave. Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.Angeles City can be fun for a while but after a year or two, you might feel differently. There is just not that much to do except girls and drinking. I get bored after a few e and prefer a real city like Cebu or other real cities. If you go out to some of the other cities and do online dating, It can be a lot of fun. You can also be flaky but if you have time, it's not a big deal.

[MoonShot]

A few thoughts if I may on the last few weeks in angeles.

Where over the last few months the week day nights saw a fair few expats and asians in the westerner and asian bars they were never busy, some bars even no customers, some bars doing just ok.

The weekends were a different story, Friday and Saturday nights would see the number of visiting asian guys double / treble and even though the western bars remained quiet the asian bars would be rocking, guys spending big money in the asian bars, sitting with multiple girls, buying multiple lady drinks, tipping everyone, throwing handfulls of money at the girls on stage etc.

What has happened over the last few weekends is that although the asian number do go up a bit its nowhere as much as before, it seems that even those asians that are in town are not inviting so many girls to sit, yes they all have 1 each at the table where as before 2 or 3 guys would be buying drinks for 6/7 girls at the same time.

Hotels seem to be very quiet, the roads seem to be much quieter, the dance clubs that were once busy are now opening just weekend and then the most clients to the dance clubs are pinoys out with other pinoys.

Where there were not so long ago many massage girls in walking street these seem to have completely disapeared, where recently one could see some street walker girls these too are much fewer, what is about the same number is the lady boys outside phillies, they seem to get taller, butcher and more pushy by the day, viagra sellers, cigarette sellers, trike drivers all are getting more desperate for punters and of course more agressive with it.

P. s, please note, no arrangements have been made by my self for drinks with member dg8787 for the 14,7,23,it seems he made the arrangements of time and date on his own without consulting availability, thanks.Guys want bars to be full of young attractive girls so that there is a good selection to choose from. Yet at the same time guys are meeting up with girls without paying the bar fine which hurts the bar's bottom line. Bars that are making less money will not be able to attract a lot of young attractive women. That's why bars try their best to prevent this from happening. Now it may seem wrong that bars have rules to try to stop this from happening But it is to prevent guys from meeting girls at the bar without paying the bar fine.

Now I know some guy say, well most guys are going to pay the bar fine and everything will be fine. But what does everybody started doing this? Will everything still be fine? What it does do is cause the increase in bar fines because if bars are getting less bar fines, they need the amount of the bar fine to compensate for this.

It is primarily the long-term guys who are doing this at the expense of the short-term visitors.

[Betong]

After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave.Sure, but 3 days later when you're in Iloilo and getting nothing, you'll start having fond memories of AC, LOL. At least that's how it is for some of us.

[TjBrazil]

Has anyone ever stayed at Aqua Beach Club. It's 110 a night. Looks amazing. Does the club have all hookers or just guests of the hotel. What's the lay of the land. Is it worth the money.

[WestCoast1]

Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave.


Sure, but 3 days later when you're in Iloilo and getting nothing, you'll start having fond memories of AC, LOL.Ya that 3-days-drained-balls thing might be Phils best advertisement yet (that, and Pia Wurtzbach).


Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.Ya. Manila is an oddity because of its big-city nature. AC is a strange calliope of sights, sounds, drunkeness, sex and fantasy, that it doesn't readily encapsulate what is 'Philippines-normal' in any sense of the words. Pretty much the same way that Tijuana does not in any way reflect the way the rest of Mexico is. Getting away from those two places, it gets easier to live a normal (ie, laid-back) life and have poon regularly where you don't worry about it very much. It just finds a way to happen here.

[Goferring]

Has anyone ever stayed at Aqua Beach Club. It's 110 a night. Looks amazing. Does the club have all hookers or just guests of the hotel. What's the lay of the land. Is it worth the money.Aqua Beach club is a club atop Angeles Beach Club Hotel. It's not a hotel in itself. The hotel is more commonly referred to simply as ABC.

The ABC hotel is totally over the top and caters almost exclusively to mongers. Various rooms have stripper poles, 5 person jacuzzis, massive entertainment areas etc. The list goes on. The hotel is very familiar with dealing with guys' escapades. They won't bat an eye at entering with 20 girls, needing 5 fresh towels etc.

The club is about as upmarket as one gets in AC. There will be a few freelancers about. They are instructed not to approach guys but wait to be approached. There may also be some Philippine groups up from Manila for the weekend.

Is it worth it?? It's good for a laugh if you don't mind throwing money around. $100 would only get you one of the basic rooms with the theme rooms being multiples of that. The rooms are nice enough that girls will often want to come up just to see them and may be reluctant to leave to return to their shitty shared room.

Check their web site for options and prices.

[NapaSlapper]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.

The girls free time is her free time to do as she pleases with, most bar owners know this and accept others are fucking their staff for free, like her pinoy husband, boyfriend, trike driver lover, what they won't stand for is punters trying to cut the bars share out during a girls working hours.

[Goferring]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.It's highly likely that she was liable for some type of fine when she got back if she walked out during work hours. Worst case would be that she owes the bar a barfine. Best case is that she split some of Breadman's money with mama to keep her quiet and smooth things over.

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.

I once took a girl out of the bar for two weeks for a trip to Bohol and Coron. We agreed on her salary but I said that dealing with the bar was her problem. She told the bar that she was going home but still had to pay a cut to mama to keep her quiet. I don't know exactly how much but got the feeling that it was a reasonable percentage of what I paid her.

Cheers. G.

[RainMania]

Guys want bars to be full of young attractive girls so that there is a good selection to choose from. Yet at the same time guys are meeting up with girls without paying the bar fine which hurts the bar's bottom line. Bars that are making less money will not be able to attract a lot of young attractive women. That's why bars try their best to prevent this from happening. Now it may seem wrong that bars have rules to try to stop this from happening But it is to prevent guys from meeting girls at the bar without paying the bar fine.

Now I know some guy say, well most guys are going to pay the bar fine and everything will be fine. But what does everybody started doing this? Will everything still be fine? What it does do is cause the increase in bar fines because if bars are getting less bar fines, they need the amount of the bar fine to compensate for this.

It is primarily the long-term guys who are doing this at the expense of the short-term visitors.This can easily be countered with barfines in Angeles (as well as lady drink prices) are completely unreasonable, which drives people to want to cut the middlemen out. 3500-6000 is the going rate now for what could likely be a dud performance since the girl knows she can do anything as the guy has already paid up front. At least in the freelance (pay after) model, girls are still incentivized to actually do a good job and / or stick to their promises.

[NapaSlapper]

The pay all money before leaving the bar with the girl has always been the Angeles way and in many years gone past worked well because the girls and the bars back then had a totally different attitude and way of working, they were all geared to customer satisfaction 1st.

Unfortunately in todays Angeles city many girls do not leave with customers to earn their money, multiple girls are very short time only, many girls will promise a great time back at the room in order to get the barfine money only to turn into a princess that won't blow or allow much time before she starts complaining that a punter is taking too long to cum and to hurry because she is sore.

In the new Angeles the bars, the girls are all designed to line their pockets as quick as possible and not to give customer satisfaction, the bars encourage the girls to do short time only and the girls love this too, why settle for 1 long time punter when a bar can sell a girl multiple times per night, of course the girl also receives multiple payments which obviously mean much bigger profits and happy girls.

Yes yes, I hear the couple of die hard voices among the board members of I have no problem getting the pretty 8.5 girls of Angeles to barfine and all stay long time, give countless pops, suck cock for hours and give a porn star performance and many times at reduced rates because they are such a stud, as normal I file most of this in the garbage and to fantasy, in the real world the bars and bar girls of Angeles are in business for their profits and don't care for the punters enjoyment, alas it is what it is, either accept it or move on to a destination where the bar girls share is paid after the deed thus guarantee a good time and receiving exactly what was promised back at the room.

[Goferring]

This can easily be countered with barfines in Angeles (as well as lady drink prices) are completely unreasonable, which drives people to want to cut the middlemen out. 3500-6000 is the going rate now for what could likely be a dud performance since the girl knows she can do anything as the guy has already paid up front. At least in the freelance (pay after) model, girls are still incentivized to actually do a good job and / or stick to their promises.There was a time when bars actually offered a service that guys were happy to pay a markup for. Without starting another 'good ol' days' saga, bars previously offered a fun environment, full of pretty girls who were happy to offer a good time. Now it's common for me to walk into a bar, only see bored girls on their phone or sharks about to rip off who ever they can. Half the time I can't get any action because I'm not interested in buying trays of drinks for girls who will never leave the premises.

Rant off. 😜.

[WestCoast1]

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.Its been that way for some time now. It started around 2014-15 (NS can correct if I am wrong). Girls on duty (and for many off-duty) are not allowed to be on their own. There are safe-guards in place now for the bar owner to stop or slow down sneak-outs. I considered it AC sacrilege when I first started becoming aware of it (two mamas that I was close with back then, started describing such measures to me at the time, which I considered a bit draconian).

The reason I considered it sacrilege was that I'd become well-accustomed to previous barfined gals coming over in their off-hours for about 1/3 - 1/2 of the barfine amount. These bars included Atlantis, Geckos, Brown Sugar, 1-Bar (later WOW bar, Santos St), Butterly Rock, and several Raymond St ST bars. After a few years I found that I didn't really need to barfine often, maybe just once a week for new girls. I could walk into Brown Sugar, see a girl that I had before on a previous visit, walk over and whisper into her ear: I have the same phone number. Is yours the same? If she nodded 'yes' I could walk out and txt her: Msg me later if you want to meet up tonight after shift. If she nodded 'no', I would tell her to find WESTY in her phone contacts and msg me if she wanted to come by after shift.

Hotties who didn't barfine tonight would txt just as their shift ended: "No date tonight. I will go to you?" And for an amount that now seems ridiculously small. One morning I asked one girl this: Why do you keep coming to my place and spending the night, for just pxxx? "Well. I can go to my home no pesos. Or you will let me here its pxxx. No pesos. Or pxxx, sex, and foods. You see it?" Yes, I saw not only the simple logic of making *some* money as opposed to *no* money; but also she had nothing else to do and lived in a sh*t-hole with another girl that she didn't like. In addition, they would sometimes offer to send or bring another girl for 3-some.

Later, when the safe-guards started kicking in, this practice ended. The good-old-days of AC were ending. The K's are just a continuation of such.

[TjBrazil]

When I go to bar fine places, instead of typing the number through the cellular and getting busted by security, why not just buy one drink, tell the girl your hotel and room number and she can leave a message. Then you can call her back. Can't get busted that way.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack witnessed a ladyboy fight early this morning in front of Phillies.

So Sailor Jack is at Phillies about 5 am this morning eating a Phillies omelet, which comes with coffee, and minding his own business like always.

Sailor Jack hears a lot of shouting coming from around Envy and the unmistakable sound of angry shouting ladyboy voices. A melee spills over to the front of Phillies, right in front of innocent bystander Sailor Jack. At first it is hard to tell exactly what is going on. There are several ladyboys yelling, shoving, slapping, pulling hair, and tearing clothes.

Then Sailor Jack notices Spinner01, a tiny real girl Filipina, who is being held back by BuffGuy01. Apparently Spinner01 and BuffGuy01 got paired up recently at one of the nearby night clubs. It is all BuffGuy01 can do to hold Spinner01 back. Spinner01 is maybe 4'10' and 85 pounds (and totally fucking hot in a little black dress) and Spinner01 is fully enraged. Spinner01 is just fucking crazed.

Now into Sailor Jack's view comes LadyBoy01, who other ladyboys are trying to hold back. LadyBoy01 is also fully enraged and trying hard to go after Spinner01. LadyBoy01 is about 5'8" medium guy build, wearing a short skirt and thigh high black leather boots with 8 inch heels. No one would mistake him for anything but a ladyboy. Spinner01 and Ladyboy01 seem to be the primary combatants. Somehow in all this other ladyboys start to fight with other ladyboys, slapping, punching, pulling hair. A wig got pulled off and set on fire.

Spinner01 gets loose from BuffGuy01 and unwisely goes after LadyBoy01 who at this moment also got loose. Spinner01 unwisely charges LadyBoy01 and LadyBoy01 tries a front karate kick to Spinner01's head. Fortunately, LadyBoy01's front karate kick misses (those high heels could have killed Spinner01) and LadyBoy01 and Spinner01 clinch. LadyBoy01 hip tosses Spinner01 and Spinner01 goes down hard in the rain wetted nasty street. Some other ladyboys pull LadyBoy01 off Spinner01. Here Sailor Jack thought he might see some one pull a knife. Sailor Jack really thought he might be about to witness a murder because there are several other ladyboy fights going on as well.

BuffGuy01 steps back in and gets Spnner01 a bit further away. This whole fracas has lasted a good 10 minutes with Station 4 just 150 meters off and in clear sight.

At one point, LadyBoy01 had Spinner01 by the hair with one hand and Ladyboy01 was smacking the shit out of Spinner01 with the other hand. Here Sailor Jack must admit to being quite aroused by seeing hot Spinner01 getting slapped around. Apparently Sailor Jack was not the only one. Sailor Jack noticed in the crowd a young Filipino Wierdo with his hand in his pants jerking off. Wierdo looked at Sailor Jack and sported a toothless grin.

Also, at one point, LadyBoy02 angrily confronts LadyBoy01. LadyBoy02 is about 5'4" in a nice short skirt and heels and he indeed could easily be mistaken for a real girl. Sailor Jack does know exactly what the argument is about because all the shouting is in Tagalog, but SJ thinks it must have been insults about various stages of transition. Sailor Jack witnesses LadyBoy02 lift his short skirt to LadyBoy01 to reveal no underwear and - uh - some non-standard rigging. Sailor Jack feels some Mal der mer.

The tourist police arrive, and all are escorted to Station 4.

Yes, Sailor Jack got it all on video.

Sailor Jack starts to walk back to his cabin. Sailor Jack considers the morning thus far and how some people say Angeles City lacks entertainment. Then Sailor Jack pictures that hot little Spinner01 getting slapped around and SJ wonders if Spinner01 needs to be bailed out. Sailor Jack also wonders if maybe Station 4 allows conjugal visits.

Sailor Jack passes 7 Eleven and notices a 3-year-old shitting on the sidewalk in front of the store. At Narcisso Sailor Jack turns left and notices a beautiful sunrise to the East, accompanied by the aroma of Jeepney exhaust from Checkpoint, dogshit, and the smoke of someone already burning trash.

It is good to be back in Angeles Fucking City.

Photo; unrelated K2 photo will be covered in a future post.

[TjBrazil]

Its been that way for some time now. It started around 2014-15 (NS can correct if I am wrong). Girls on duty (and for many off-duty) are not allowed to be on their own. There are safe-guards in place now for the bar owner to stop or slow down sneak-outs. I considered it AC sacrilege when I first started becoming aware of it (two mamas that I was close with back then, started describing such measures to me at the time, which I considered a bit draconian).

The reason I considered it sacrilege was that I'd become well-accustomed to previous barfined gals coming over in their off-hours for about 1/3 - 1/2 of the barfine amount. These bars included Atlantis, Geckos, Brown Sugar, 1-Bar (later WOW bar, Santos St), Butterly Rock, and several Raymond St ST bars. After a few years I found that I didn't really need to barfine often, maybe just once a week for new girls. I could walk into Brown Sugar, see a girl that I had before on a previous visit, walk over and whisper into her ear: I have the same phone number. Is yours the same? If she nodded 'yes' I could walk out and txt her: Msg me later if you want to meet up tonight after shift. If she nodded 'no', I would tell her to find WESTY in her phone contacts and msg me if she wanted to come by after shift.How are they safeguarding what a girl does on her off time. I'm confused.

[Breadman]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.

The girls free time is her free time to do as she pleases with, most bar owners know this and accept others are fucking their staff for free, like her pinoy husband, boyfriend, trike driver lover, what they won't stand for is punters trying to cut the bars share out during a girls working hours.Well first thing its mainly the Korean bars where I'm given numbers because they have the most girls and with many girls that means many not getting barfined. As to the beating. Maybe a beating for the girl if they go that low, nobody in their right mind would touch me especially no tiny Korean guy. They as I are guests in this country so its unlikely a 'beating' will take place to either party involved, more likely they'll try shaming the girl or withholding pay. As to getting numbers I've done it many times in many many bars, so many girls and customers are on their phones in the clubs anymore its unlikely they notice. Little trick is to open the calculator app, one touch and you've got the keypad right there and the numbers are bigger. Girl keys in her number and you take a quick screenshot and anyone who might glance over see's you converting a barfine into your currency and not saving a contact. I've even engaged in conversation with a waitress who was trying to see what the girl was doing by asking what the exchange rate was and showing her the calculator.

Again I repeat 'a girls free time is her free time' does not apply to a bar that will house a girl and has mamasan checking on their location when they are not at work. And how would the bar know who the girls are talking too? I'm not a regular, I pop in once and don't come back for weeks. Only the girl knows who I am. And not only that they always have a friend working at the bar who needs money and comes over for a threesome. So now I save two barfines.


It's highly likely that she was liable for some type of fine when she got back if she walked out during work hours. Worst case would be that she owes the bar a barfine. Best case is that she split some of Breadman's money with mama to keep her quiet and smooth things over.

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.

I once took a girl out of the bar for two weeks for a trip to Bohol and Coron. We agreed on her salary but I said that dealing with the bar was her problem. She told the bar that she was going home but still had to pay a cut to mama to keep her quiet. I don't know exactly how much but got the feeling that it was a reasonable percentage of what I paid her..She was off the clock after working 9 hours. After about an hour mamasan starts texting her 'where are you?' wanting to know why she isn't back in the room the bar has her living in. Imagine that. You wake up and are taken to the bar to dance for 9 hours then they want to take you back to the room to know exactly where you are in the evening. She told the mamasan she was going out to eat. Now I've run into this in Thailand where the girl is staying in a room above the bar and has to be back before they close the security doors on the bar. But she was never texted over and over by the mamasan 'where are you?

Honestly though phone numbers are hit and miss for a variety of reasons. They are easy to get with all of the cell phone usage going on in the bars here by the girls, you never see gogo girls in Thailand on their phones in the open.

[RakSopheni]

Sailor Jack witnessed a ladyboy fight early this morning in front of Phillies.Great story, thanks Sailor Jack.

[WestCoast1]

Best post of the year. Its almost too much to take in for one breakfast.


Somehow in all this other ladyboys start to fight with other ladyboys, slapping, punching, pulling hair. A wig got pulled off and set on fire.Must be Thursday?


LadyBoy01 hip tosses Spinner01 and Spinner01 goes down hard in the rain wetted nasty street. Bang!


Sailor Jack really thought he might be about to witness a murder because there are several other ladyboy fights going on as well.Pow!


This whole fracas has lasted a good 10 minutes with Station 4 just 150 meters off and in clear sight.They needed to call in their crack detective. Who was home. Asleep. Takes a while.


Ladyboy01 was smacking the shit out of Spinner01 with the other hand. Here Sailor Jack must admit to being quite aroused by seeing hot Spinner01 getting slapped around. Haha do post a screen capture.


Sailor Jack noticed in the crowd a young Filipino Wierdo with his hand in his pants jerking off. Wierdo looked at Sailor Jack and sported a toothless grin.Again, a screen capture!


Sailor Jack witnesses LadyBoy02 lift his short skirt to LadyBoy01 to reveal no underwear and - uh - some non-standard rigging. Once again. . .


Sailor Jack feels some Mal der mer.No! Don't pass out, you might and break your phone. That has the video.


The tourist police arrive, and all are escorted to Station 4.All is well that ends well.


Sailor Jack also wonders if maybe Station 4 allows conjugal visits.Careful. A line might form, toothless old foreigner geezers.


At Narcisso Sailor Jack turns left and notices a beautiful sunrise to the East, accompanied by the aroma of Jeepney exhaust from Checkpoint, dogshit, and the smoke of someone already burning trash.Welcome back SJ. And well done!

[Goferring]

Sailor Jack also wonders if maybe Station 4 allows conjugal visits.Sorry, Spinner01 is likely too busy for that. Numerous videos floating about of how pretty waifs work off fines while in custody. She's in for a busy night while all the officers return to base to aid in the interrogation.

LB01 is likely kept busy too as local men in uniform consider it's not gay if you're pitching. 😳.

Great story! G.

[Volterra]

A melee spills over to the front of Phillies, right in front of innocent bystander Sailor Jack. At first it is hard to tell exactly what is going on. There are several ladyboys yelling, shoving, slapping, pulling hair, and tearing clothes.Glad to see that "innocent" SJ is back and unscathed from the Phillies melee. Looking forward to some uplifting July adventure posts.

I also miss gold ole days. For most of us, the inescapable reality is that it takes a lot of tough grunt work to come up with a hot AC punt. Those longer stayers with long-established connections and leverage can keep it going better on auto-pilot.

[Dg8787]

Sailor Jack. I will buy you a drink tomorrow, 6 pm July 14th. Lollipop Bar.

[NapaSlapper]

Well first thing its mainly the Korean bars where I'm given numbers because they have the most girls and with many girls that means many not getting barfined. As to the beating. Maybe a beating for the girl if they go that low, nobody in their right mind would touch me especially no tiny Korean guy. They as I are guests in this country so its unlikely a 'beating' will take place to either party involved, more likely they'll try shaming the girl or withholding pay. As to getting numbers I've done it many times in many many bars, so many girls and customers are on their phones in the clubs anymore its unlikely they notice. Little trick is to open the calculator app, one touch and you've got the keypad right there and the numbers are bigger. Girl keys in her number and you take a quick screenshot and anyone who might glance over see's you converting a barfine into your currency and not saving a contact. I've even engaged in conversation with a waitress who was trying to see what the girl was doing by asking what the exchange rate was and showing her the calculator.

Again I repeat 'a girls free time is her free time' does not apply to a bar that will house a girl and has mamasan checking on their location when they are not at work. And how would the bar know who the girls are talking too? I'm not a regular, I pop in once and don't come back for weeks. Only the girl knows who I am. And not only that they always have a friend working at the bar who needs money and comes over for a threesome. So now I save two barfines.

She was off the clock after working 9 hours. After about an hour mamasan starts texting her 'where are you?' wanting to know why she isn't back in the room the bar has her living in. Imagine that. You wake up and are taken to the bar to dance for 9 hours then they want to take you back to the room to know exactly where you are in the evening. She told the mamasan she was going out to eat. Now I've run into this in Thailand where the girl is staying in a room above the bar and has to be back before they close the security doors on the bar. But she was never texted over and over by the mamasan 'where are you?

Honestly though phone numbers are hit and miss for a variety of reasons. They are easy to get with all of the cell phone usage going on in the bars here by the girls, you never see gogo girls in Thailand on their phones in the open.Another big tough guy arrives in angeles and thinks he can do what he wants when he wants, you do realise that every single bar in angeles pays protection money to some very nasty pinoys.

Seen many a western want to be cry like a baby once he got spotted swapping numbers so no need for your bravery from behind a keyboard.

I'm sure if you were the bar owner and some clown was taking money out of your pocket you would not be feeling so smug.

As far as claiming bar owners are keeping girls hostage, more fantasy, you do realise that many bar girls are married to pinoys, many bar girls have pinoy boyfriends, many girls are mothers and need to look after their kids, do you honestly believe that pinoys would allow some foreigner to keep their wives, sisters, daughters, cousins hostage. The mind boggles at some claims it really does.

Girls are fully free to do what they want when they want in their own time, that includes spending time with their pinoy partners / children / family, talk of girls being held captive are fantasy at best.

The reason the mama might have called your girl is that she had wind of something was up between the girl and you in the bar and was checkin on her suspisions, obviously she was right.

I hope for your sake you never get caught doing what your doing and have to face the paid protectors of the bars because I can promise you there will only be one winner and one outcome regardless of how clever and hard you think you are.

[Sailor Jack]

Dearest Swabbies;.

Sailor Jack regrets to inform you that SJ fucked up the ladyboy fight video. Sailor Jack purchased a new phone during his recent shore leave in PussyHell. Apparently Sailor Jack does not know how to use his new fucking phone. Sailor Jack did get some useless still photos and a two minute video of half of SJ's rather handsome face with lots of ladyboys shouting in the background.

Swabbies, Sailor Jack shares your disappointment. Sailor Jack promises;.

1) SJ will learn how his fucking phone works.

2) SJ will return to ladyboy corner.

3) SJ will foment a ladyboy fight, which should not be difficult.

[WestCoast1]

Dearest Swabbies;.

Sailor Jack regrets to inform you that SJ fucked up the ladyboy fight video. Sailor Jack purchased a new phone during his recent shore leave in PussyHell. Apparently Sailor Jack does not know how to use his new fucking phone. Sailor Jack did get some useless still photos and a two minute video of half of SJ's rather handsome face with lots of ladyboys shouting in the background.

Swabbies, Sailor Jack shares your disappointment. Sailor Jack promises;.

1) SJ will learn how his fucking phone works.

2) SJ will return to ladyboy corner.

3) SJ will foment a ladyboy fight, which should not be difficult.Hope rises anew!

To celebrate, a throw-back pic.

[SamPeter71]

1st day here at Angeles. I am not a fan of go go bars. I am hoping to find freelancers. Any pointers on how and where to find them?

I am trying ti find the going rates for freelancers and the escorts that can be arranged by the hotel bell boys. Mainly looking for 19 to 20 year old girls.

Any pointers and suggestions?

TIA.

[Goferring]

I am hoping to find freelancers. Any pointers on how and where to find them?Dude,

Bad, bad timing. You do know about the hooker convention in Cebu, right? No Freelancers in AC now. They won't be back until end of this month. 😜.

Sorry, but asking where to find hookers in AC was inviting a smart ass reply. 😊.

On a serious note, where are you staying? I assume off the tourist track as there are freelancers standing or walking all over the foreigner / red light areas. Google Walking Street or Fields Avenue. Walk the length of it away from Macdonald's and you will be tripping over opportunities from freelancers or girls going to / from bars but open to some overtime.

Best to do it yourself. Relying on doormen will only get you village scrubbers. AC is full of girls so you won't need them anyway.

Prices range start from 1000 for a roughy. A cutie might ask 3000 from a newbie. That's Short time. Most won't do longtime but those that do will want double that for over night.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

As to the beating. Maybe a beating for the girl if they go that low, nobody in their right mind would touch me especially no tiny Korean guy.LOL. I can see them punching you in your kneecaps right now as tall as you are.

[Jarango]

Here is my report but first I want to ask a few questions.

1. When do you guys think at what age you should retire from this game. I am a senior citizen and, as my report makes plain, my game has slipped over the years.

2. I still like to partake though I am weak downstairs and do not want aritificial stimulants, kamagra etc which the hotels sell as I don; t want to give my heart any issues.

Hotel: I stayed in cheap places off MacArthur Highway, near Johnnys Supermarket and in Balibago. Very cheap, about $300 a month. You do get kinda what you paid for but I thought it was good, cheap but good value. Mostly settled US retirees and Korean, quiet respectful lot. I got no messing with extra charges for dirty sheets or the like as one often does. For anyone intersted, just booking.com for a day or two and then walk around.

Food: I eat cheap and was eating in local places across from Fields until I got sick as a coot from chicken that had been there all day long, something that is quite common until they sell out. I then switched to Western food in small bars off Fields. If I return I might eat the early morning stuff but after that, forget about it.

Health: I spent a lot of $$ getting a full medical check over. Highly recommended. There is a little place down town near the fruit and fish market. A few big places and lots of little ones. Specialists for every part of the anatomy you can think of. Cheap. I was recommended by a doctor near Fields first who did the basics. I am in good health except for the part of the body this site is most concerned with. Dentists near Fields are ok for basic stuff, cleaning and the like. Others on Fields went bust because of Covid. That warren of places is good but they have a lot of local customers.

Clark Airport: A change from before. Immigration were on my case and I had to show my return ticket. There are lines of officials to check your health and other QR code requirements. Stressful when getting off a plane. I got the bus to 200 (or 100) pesos I think to SM Mall, then walked to my billet after changing more money at airport and on Walking St. Taxi was 500 pesos back. Trikes are no longer a good idea for the airport.

Change money: Best rate I found was a small kiosk opposite Johnys. Always beat Walking St and that place in Raymond St the hookers and locals go to.

Ladyboy warning: The place I was staying a lady opposite asked me for a mask as she was going out. Turns out she was a ladyboy and had drugged the guy there and robbed him of everything. I was a little off my game and, though I half suspected, I was mad with myself for not stopping the thief. I told the bouncer in Phillies about it. He said it is a nightly occurrence.

Beggars, Viagra sellers: These are a nuisance and are best avoided. I sometimes mess with the kids with a little magic trick I know and then give them 20 or so pesos. One had a scowl on her face. My wingman explained she is a rugby girl, rugby being the strong brand of glue they sniff.

Shopping: I splurged on glasses (SM Mall), a top of the range Chinese phone in another mall (where the visa office is) and some bits and pieces. One reason for this is I had spent a lot of time visiting the health clinics and fell out with the idea of sex. I bought some solid mugs I would have liked to bring home but gave them and about 2000 PHP of other crap to my cleaner (who would make a good bonk).

Visa extension: the cheapest place is that little place on Extension Rod. Busy Bee Travel or some such name. They do the taxi runs too. They do a lot of visa runs as she showed me punches opf passports waiting for collection. ;.

Massages: These are blind massages in most malls, SM included. The one in Robinsons on the way to downtown Angeles is far cheaper. The massages are good and good work for the blind folk but a symptom of having nothing to do.

Sex: Almost forgot. I picked up a 30 year old mother on her first night, most likely trafficked by her mate. I paid her over the odds and warned her about the other one, who I had to give 500 or so pesos to to stay at McDonalds and wait. I picked them up opposite the jeepney station. My sexual performance was pathetic and I put that down to jet lag and old age.

Next night I picked up a flower seller outside Phillies, short time with condom and the next night all night with no condom damage for both was about 1 k short time and 1. 5 k long time with tips on top. Again my performance was pathetic, age and jet lag. The flower seller had notions of getting me to pay for all sorts of frivolous BS and so I paid her off.

I also gave a down at luck ex go go girl, who was pregnant with her third child some money because she was scratching around like a feral cat at the hotel for some guy who had gone to Subic for a few days. No sex but she was pathetic as you could easily see she was a stunner only a few years earlier. I kept running into her in my travels. Sad case.

Hooker STI checks. First time I went to the doctor I was told to call back as the hookers were all getting their checks. I later ran into them in bars getting their medical stuff photocopied. There is a major cottage industry in all that.

Security: I kept a low profile and kept a weather eye out.

Trikes: I always argued the fare (I knew the rates in advance) but paid more anyway.

Crowds: Quiet. But not many freelancers, which is my thing. Or was when I had power.

I tailed off then for a few weeks but later did 3 somes with 19 year olds and 18 year olds in that grotty short time hotel behind Johnnys, just to break the Y2 k barrier with sex partners, meaning I have bonked women born before World war 2 and after 2000. Silly but that is life. More to the point, my performance again sucked and I had to put up with their false moaning on top of that. I don't need that.

I can't really think of many bases beyond that. Though I was a sex tourist, I missed most of the sex and the tour. The question is should I go again and I am sure it is one many others must ask.

I am 70 years old in good enough condition but I am not performing. A lot of it, I am sure, is stress. The relevance is is it worth my while returning? I have been there and am entitled to the t shirt. The days of heavy bonking is over but I would like to know what others think. Is it time to hang up the rifle as well as the gun?

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack likes to keep a full roster of regular crew members based on body type and / or qualifications. Sailor Jack tries to keep his crew staffed with a Skinny, a Buxom, a nasty Slot or two, a Girlfriend, and as many Spinners as the boat will hold. Sailor Jack, he just loves his Spinners, he does.

It is difficult to find an appropriate Buxom these days (and do not get Sailor Jack started on the dearth of Skinnys and Spinners in the current market). So gentlemen monger Sailor Jack is sitting in an old school bar near Kokomo's drinking a Red Horse and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack spies a buxom Filipina across the bar. K2 gots a butter face but she has sexy buxom curves that are hard to find. Sailor Jack thinks of how difficult it is to find a hot Buxom Filipina that is not-fat and not-flabby. Sailor Jack also considers that his current crew roster lacks an adequate Buxom. Will K2 qualify to fill SJ's Buxom posting? Sailor Jack invites K2 aboard for a drink.

K2's butter face does not improve with a closeup. But K2 gots all the right curves. Sailor Jack feels K2 up heartily in the bar and everything seems ship shape and Bristol style. Sailor Jack schedules a shakedown cruise for the next day.

The very next afternoon; K2 arrives on time and she is about 4 inches shorter without her high heels, all good. Sailor Jack has just showered and is wearing only a towel. K2 showers and from the bed Sailor Jack can see K2 moving about in the shower. Sailor Jack is entertained and aroused in anticipation.

K2 exits the bathroom and stands next to the table to dry off. Let's skip ahead now and then come back to this moment in a bit. *.

K2 has perfect titties with big brown nipples that scream Suck Me! Suck me! Suck me! Sailor Jack answers the sirens call. K2, not only is she NOT fat and NOT flabby, she is a bit of a hard body. Damn! Sailor Jack has hit the jackpot! K2 has gloriously soft brown skin along with the typical amount of trampstamps. K2 is an excellent performer, though a bit of a pro and a bit WBTYM. But all the pros become WBTYM over time. Still, K2 is a keeper, and she is now Sailor Jack's #1 Buxom.

*Now, let's go back to the moment when K2 exits the shower. K2 slowly dries herself off while standing a few feet away from Sailor Jack who is lying in bed. As K2 moves, she reveals more of her voluptuous body. K2 shakes her perfect susus a bit as she uses the towel to dry her hair. K2's sultry brown skin glows in the afternoon light. K2 fixes her eyes on Sailor Jack's eyes, never losing the gaze for this next part. K2 reaches into her purse and produces a plastic tube. K2 applies lubricant to her right middle finger and slowly inserts it into her hawse pipe, lubricating generously.

From this subtle clue, Sailor Jack surmised that K2 wanted fucked in the ass.

Sailor Jack was right!

Image; K2, observant Swabbies will note the per-lubed hawse pipe.

[Gonz0]

Sailor Jack likes to keep a full roster of regular crew members based on body type and / or qualifications. Sailor Jack tries to keep his crew staffed with a Skinny, a Buxom, a nasty Slot or two, a Girlfriend, and as many Spinners as the boat will hold. Sailor Jack, he just loves his Spinners, he does.

K2 has perfect titties with big brown nipples that scream Suck Me! Suck me! Suck me! Sailor Jack answers the sirens call. K2, not only is she NOT fat and NOT flabby, she is a bit of a hard body. Damn! Sailor Jack has hit the jackpot! K2 has gloriously soft brown skin along with the typical amount of trampstamps. K2 is an excellent performer, though a bit of a pro and a bit WBTYM. But all the pros become WBTYM over time. Still, K2 is a keeper, and she is now Sailor Jack's #1 Buxom.

Image; K2, observant Swabbies will note the per-lubed hawse pipe.Sailor Jack,

What is the difference between Skinny and Spinner crew? What is WBTYM? Why does the picture not show the most valued asset. K2's perfect titties?

Thanks for the update.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack,

What is the difference between Skinny and Spinner crew? What is WBTYM? Why does the picture not show the most valued asset. K2's perfect titties?

Thanks for the update.Dearest Gonz0;.

A Spinner is a tiny, petite, gymnast-like Filipina. Maybe 4'10" or less. Let's please please please NOT have a forum discussion about what a Spinner is or is not. Suffice it to say we are talking about a tiny Filipina and exact qualifications will vary from Swabbie to Swabbie. Spinner is in the ISG abbreviations.

Skinny; for Sailor Jack, this is a Filipina of any height that is so thin that the first look at her makes SJ think Damn, that one is Skinny! Sailor Jack's thumb and middle finger will easily go around Skinny's wrist. Same for Skinny's ankles. Skinny should be frail and lithesome but able to hold proper form when taking a pounding in doggystyle. Bonus points if Skinny's ears are easy to grasp. Skinny is a Sailor Jack designation that you likely will not find anywhere else.

WBTYM; Wham bam thank you ma'am. From the web; "used in reference to sexual activity conducted roughly and quickly, without tenderness. " Sailor Jack is surprised to find this is not in the ISG abbreviations. It should be.

K2' love pillows; Sailor Jack does not have a real good image of the K2 bazoombas. Sailor Jack will try to get a good photo, right after the next ladyboy fight. Damn, the Swabbies can be demanding.

[TjBrazil]

Dearest Gonz0;.

A Spinner is a tiny, petite, gymnast-like Filipina. Maybe 4'10" or less. Let's please please please NOT have a forum discussion about what a Spinner is or is not. Suffice it to say we are talking about a tiny Filipina and exact qualifications will vary from Swabbie to Swabbie. Spinner is in the ISG abbreviations.

Skinny; for Sailor Jack, this is a Filipina of any height that is so thin that the first look at her makes SJ think Damn, that one is Skinny! Sailor Jack's thumb and middle finger will easily go around Skinny's wrist. Same for Skinny's ankles. Skinny should be frail and lithesome but able to hold proper form when taking a pounding in doggystyle. Bonus points if Skinny's ears are easy to grasp. Skinny is a Sailor Jack designation that you likely will not find anywhere else.

WBTYM; Wham bam thank you ma'am. From the web; "used in reference to sexual activity conducted roughly and quickly, without tenderness. " Sailor Jack is surprised to find this is not in the ISG abbreviations. It should be.

K2' love pillows; Sailor Jack does not have a real good image of the K2 bazoombas. Sailor Jack will try to get a good photo, right after the next ladyboy fight. Damn, the Swabbies can be demanding.Disappointed you didn't get a front picture. She looks 95 pounds with I'm assuming DD. That's a unicorn that should always be documented.

[WestCoast1]

Skinny should be frail and lithesome but able to hold proper form when taking a pounding in doggystyle. Bonus points if Skinny's ears are easy to grasp. SNIP

WBTYM; Wham bam thank you ma'am. From the web; "used in reference to sexual activity conducted roughly and quickly, without tenderness. " Sailor Jack is surprised to find this is not in the ISG abbreviations. It should be.Ne'er will ROMANCE be gone far from this board.

[Dg8787]

Sailor Jack likes to keep a full roster of regular crew members based on body type and / or qualifications. Sailor Jack tries to keep his crew staffed with a Skinny, a Buxom, a nasty Slot or two, a Girlfriend, and as many Spinners as the boat will hold. Sailor Jack, he just loves his Spinners, he does.

It is difficult to find an appropriate Buxom these days (and do not get Sailor Jack started on the dearth of Skinnys and Spinners in the current market). So gentlemen monger Sailor Jack is sitting in an old school bar near Kokomo's drinking a Red Horse and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack spies a buxom Filipina across the bar. K2 gots a butter face but she has sexy buxom curves that are hard to find. Sailor Jack thinks of how difficult it is to find a hot Buxom Filipina that is not-fat and not-flabby. Sailor Jack also considers that his current crew roster lacks an adequate Buxom. Will K2 qualify to fill SJ's Buxom posting? Sailor Jack invites K2 aboard for a drink.

K2's butter face does not improve with a closeup. But K2 gots all the right curves. Sailor Jack feels K2 up heartily in the bar and everything seems ship shape and Bristol style. Sailor Jack schedules a shakedown cruise for the next day.

The very next afternoon; K2 arrives on time and she is about 4 inches shorter without her high heels, all good. Sailor Jack has just showered and is wearing only a towel. K2 showers and from the bed Sailor Jack can see K2 moving about in the shower. Sailor Jack is entertained and aroused in anticipation.

K2 exits the bathroom and stands next to the table to dry off. Let's skip ahead now and then come back to this moment in a bit. *.

K2 has perfect titties with big brown nipples that scream Suck Me! Suck me! Suck me! Sailor Jack answers the sirens call. K2, not only is she NOT fat and NOT flabby, she is a bit of a hard body. Damn! Sailor Jack has hit the jackpot! K2 has gloriously soft brown skin along with the typical amount of trampstamps. K2 is an excellent performer, though a bit of a pro and a bit WBTYM. But all the pros become WBTYM over time. Still, K2 is a keeper, and she is now Sailor Jack's #1 Buxom.

*Now, let's go back to the moment when K2 exits the shower. K2 slowly dries herself off while standing a few feet away from Sailor Jack who is lying in bed. As K2 moves, she reveals more of her voluptuous body. K2 shakes her perfect susus a bit as she uses the towel to dry her hair. K2's sultry brown skin glows in the afternoon light. K2 fixes her eyes on Sailor Jack's eyes, never losing the gaze for this next part. K2 reaches into her purse and produces a plastic tube. K2 applies lubricant to her right middle finger and slowly inserts it into her hawse pipe, lubricating generously.

From this subtle clue, Sailor Jack surmised that K2 wanted fucked in the ass.

Sailor Jack was right!

Image; K2, observant Swabbies will note the per-lubed hawse pipe.Great catch SJ.

Lots of AC bargirl Pinays have such beautiful firm bodies with tight pussies.

[Volterra]

Sailor Jack likes to keep a full roster of regular crew members based on body type and / or qualifications. Sailor Jack tries to keep his crew staffed with a Skinny, a Buxom, a nasty Slot or two, a Girlfriend, and as many Spinners as the boat will hold. Sailor Jack, he just loves his Spinners, he does.

It is difficult to find an appropriate Buxom these days (and do not get Sailor Jack started on the dearth of Skinnys and Spinners in the current market). So gentlemen monger Sailor Jack is sitting in an old school bar near Kokomo's drinking a Red Horse and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack spies a buxom Filipina across the bar. K2 gots a butter face but she has sexy buxom curves that are hard to find. Sailor Jack thinks of how difficult it is to find a hot Buxom Filipina that is not-fat and not-flabby. Sailor Jack also considers that his current crew roster lacks an adequate Buxom. Will K2 qualify to fill SJ's Buxom posting? Sailor Jack invites K2 aboard for a drink.

Image; K2, observant Swabbies will note the per-lubed hawse pipe.I was expecting Buxom as in midwestern corn-fed type. If this one is Buxom (fucking hot ass, BTW.), I can't imagine what your spinner looks like. Anyway, nice addition to your collection!

[Gonz0]

Dearest Gonz0;.

A Spinner is a tiny, petite, gymnast-like Filipina. Maybe 4'10" or less. Let's please please please NOT have a forum discussion about what a Spinner is or is not. Suffice it to say we are talking about a tiny Filipina and exact qualifications will vary from Swabbie to Swabbie. Spinner is in the ISG abbreviations.

Skinny; for Sailor Jack, this is a Filipina of any height that is so thin that the first look at her makes SJ think Damn, that one is Skinny! Sailor Jack's thumb and middle finger will easily go around Skinny's wrist. Same for Skinny's ankles. Skinny should be frail and lithesome but able to hold proper form when taking a pounding in doggystyle. Bonus points if Skinny's ears are easy to grasp. Skinny is a Sailor Jack designation that you likely will not find anywhere else.

WBTYM; Wham bam thank you ma'am. From the web; "used in reference to sexual activity conducted roughly and quickly, without tenderness. " Sailor Jack is surprised to find this is not in the ISG abbreviations. It should be.

K2' love pillows; Sailor Jack does not have a real good image of the K2 bazoombas. Sailor Jack will try to get a good photo, right after the next ladyboy fight. Damn, the Swabbies can be demanding.Thanks for the reply old salt.

[Bam Boom Bam]

Here is my report but first I want to ask a few questions.

1. When do you guys think at what age you should retire from this game. I am a senior citizen and, as my report makes plain, my game has slipped over the years.

2. I still like to partake though I am weak downstairs and do not want aritificial stimulants, kamagra etc which the hotels sell as I don; t want to give my heart any issues.



I am 70 years old in good enough condition but I am not performing. A lot of it, I am sure, is stress. The relevance is is it worth my while returning? I have been there and am entitled to the t shirt. The days of heavy bonking is over but I would like to know what others think. Is it time to hang up the rifle as well as the gun?Well, if your heart is an issue, then.

Also, I always say, "When there is doubt, there is no doubt. " But up to you.

[TjBrazil]

Here is my report but first I want to ask a few questions.

1. When do you guys think at what age you should retire from this game. I am a senior citizen and, as my report makes plain, my game has slipped over the years.

2. I still like to partake though I am weak downstairs and do not want aritificial stimulants, kamagra etc which the hotels sell as I don; t want to give my heart any issues.

Hotel: I stayed in cheap places off MacArthur Highway, near Johnnys Supermarket and in Balibago. Very cheap, about $300 a month. You do get kinda what you paid for but I thought it was good, cheap but good value. Mostly settled US retirees and Korean, quiet respectful lot. I got no messing with extra charges for dirty sheets or the like as one often does. For anyone intersted, just booking.com for a day or two and then walk around.Aging sucks. I'm a shell of what I was 20 years ago. I could bang 10 to 13 girls on a trip no problem. Now it's like 6 or 7, quitting is up to you. Maybe it's time for a sugar baby regular that you just hang with but don't screw often. That's where I see it headed now that I'm 50.

[Seshomeru1]

Just wonder how many hours is st and LT.

[Expat American]

Aging sucks. I'm a shell of what I was 20 years ago. I could bang 10 to 13 girls on a trip no problem. Now it's like 6 or 7, quitting is up to you. Maybe it's time for a sugar baby regular that you just hang with but don't screw often. That's where I see it headed now that I'm 50.You are just 50? Thats hardly old. I am 56 and can easily still do 3 fucks a day for my AC trips. But I will take a Cialis 20 MG that keeps me going for 2 to 3 days. If condoms were needed it may be another story but in BBFSCIP land, junior has no problems!

[Seshomeru1]

Daytime I stopped by Hollywood, Icarus, and the other small Korean run bars (Voodoo also had some new cute door girls, but I didn't venture in) 1500 to 2000 pesos for 2 to 6 hours with the girl. Some girls go by time and other by pops, so its best to negotiate. If you talk to the guys running the bars, they'll give you recommendations. Don't be intimidated by the majority Asian patronage. Your blue notes are the same blue as the Koreans and Japanese. There's also one next to brown sugar. Girls are usually in their 20's. The best girls get taken early, sometimes before the bar even opens.

At night I did the usual walk thru the Doll House bars. Lots of girls to choose from. XS was also nice. There was a blond spinner in the club behind Doll House, early 20's, great tits, but she had guys throwing money at her all night long, buying her drinks, and BF'ing her for days. Best looking girl in Angeles for sure. Lollipop had beautiful dark skinned, long haired girl. Which goes to show to check out the small bars too, because the girls are always changing.

Overall, Angeles is losing its glimmer. The fun for me was meeting new girls. Now, I'm running into girls from 5 years ago, and hearing their stories about being knocked up or still working in the bars to support their families is heartbreaking. On my last night, I gave a girl I met a few years ago 6000 pesos (my budget for the night) in the bar and called it a night after hearing her story..Thanks was looking for this.

[Kazeu]

Just wonder how many hours is st and LT.Short time is 1 shot. Its not measured in hours. They are incentivized to make you come as fast as possible and get the hell out of there. Wham bam thank you SIR! Long time has traditionally meant till morning. But these days, not sure, but I would imagine its at least 2 shots.

[CrowExplorer]

Here is my report but first I want to ask a few questions.

I am 70 years old in good enough condition but I am not performing. A lot of it, I am sure, is stress. The relevance is is it worth my while returning? I have been there and am entitled to the t shirt. The days of heavy bonking is over but I would like to know what others think. Is it time to hang up the rifle as well as the gun?Try slowing your pace. No need to try to keep up with the younger guys on these forums. I'm in my late thirties, and admittedly, I have problems with performance sometimes. I have a very hard time finishing when I'm wearing a condom, even with the assistance of Viagra. Stress is also a major factor. I have zero performance issues when I'm with a girlfriend, but I get nervous with hookers, and have trouble.

If I were you, I find myself a regular, maybe seeking arrangements. A girl you get familiar with, relax with, a girl that will take her time with you. I'm assuming you're already using Viagra or Cialis or something, but if you're not, then you need to start! Very good medicine.

Just head there, relax, check out the beautiful beaches, find great restaurants and cool bars, fuck once or twice a week. Don't make the women the whole point of the vacation, they're just highlights of the trip.

I hope that you go back, I want to read future reports from you. Give us all hope that it's possible to monger all the way up into our 80's!

[Goferring]

Just wonder how many hours is st and LT.A ST is normally one shot. A time watcher will be pumping you hard to make you come ASAP. It's not unheard of for a more relaxed session to be a couple of hours.

A LT was traditionally overnight. Occasionally it was also into the next afternoon but that's rare now. Again, a clockwatcher will nominate 4 hours or at least a departure time in the morning.

Unfortunately, this is one area where the pretty girls tend to be the poor performers, using a strict definition, as they know they will be able to score another punter soon after returning to the bar. An average girl will invest more time in the hope of an extension or follow up booking rather than returning and maybe not finding anyone else.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

I have a very hard time finishing when I'm wearing a condom, even with the assistance of Viagra. Stress is also a major factor. I have zero performance issues when I'm with a girlfriend, but I get nervous with hookers, and have trouble.I'd add Illness to this list. Even something as simple as a head cold or flu, really limits my performance esp ability to finish the deed.

[Sailor Jack]

Earlier today Sailor Jack got the following text from K2;.

K2;.

Sweety can come you.

Need go salon.

Go back black hair.

Most Swabbies get it, but just in case, Sailor Jack will explain. K2 wants Sailor Jack to fuck her in the ass so she can afford to color her hair back to black.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Another big tough guy arrives in angeles and thinks he can do what he wants when he wants, you do realise that every single bar in angeles pays protection money to some very nasty pinoys.

Seen many a western want to be cry like a baby once he got spotted swapping numbers so no need for your bravery from behind a keyboard.

I'm sure if you were the bar owner and some clown was taking money out of your pocket you would not be feeling so smug.

As far as claiming bar owners are keeping girls hostage, more fantasy, you do realise that many bar girls are married to pinoys, many bar girls have pinoy boyfriends, many girls are mothers and need to look after their kids, do you honestly believe that pinoys would allow some foreigner to keep their wives, sisters, daughters, cousins hostage. The mind boggles at some claims it really does.

Girls are fully free to do what they want when they want in their own time, that includes spending time with their pinoy partners / children / family, talk of girls being held captive are fantasy at best.

The reason the mama might have called your girl is that she had wind of something was up between the girl and you in the bar and was checkin on her suspisions, obviously she was right.

I hope for your sake you never get caught doing what your doing and have to face the paid protectors of the bars because I can promise you there will only be one winner and one outcome regardless of how clever and hard you think you are.Which K bar are you schilling for these days? Or are you on the payroll for the AC korean bar owners chamber of commerce?

I was just in AC and never seen so many white dudes there in my life lololol.

Looks like all your pro K propaganda is for nil LMAO give it up the jig is up LOL.

I hope they arent paying you much, because they gettin screwed lolololol, nobodys buying your BS lies here give it up bro!!

Looks like its good to be a white guy again in AC.

I thought I was in some type of time machine.

Circa 2000?

1990?

1980? Lololol.

[Volterra]

Earlier today Sailor Jack got the following text from K2;.

K2;.

Sweety can come you.

Need go salon.

Go back black hair.

Most Swabbies get it, but just in case, Sailor Jack will explain. K2 wants Sailor Jack to fuck her in the ass so she can afford to color her hair back to black.Thats what I call buxom. Slightly big boned and big framed with extra curvature in the right places -- not fat and still compact. She's really on (though spinners are good too) - reminds of farmtown girls I grew up with. Nice of you to help her out with hair coloring money.

[Jarango]

Thank you for your replies. I will give a few more bits of info some might find useful and then go back to my own issue of wanting to bonk till I die.

If you walk away from Fields past Johnnys, there is a quiet tree lined road to the right opposite the gym on MacArthur. You can get rooms there for between 8000 HP-15000 PHP a month. Mosquitoes at evening can be a major problem.

There is a medical centre just past Johnnys, around the corner opposite some cheap eateries (fried pork and rice). Not haute cuisine but it does the job.

Across MacArthur, there is a square with some dentists and the City Hall I think. Hotel beside it had some suspiciously young looking women and their Pinoy boyfriends. Some hotels, like the British run Hotel Fenson are no longer with us because of Covid and the same applies to decent eateries. Same story up the other end at that Vets place where the mad Yank, Pampanga's answer to Basil Fawlty, has moved his cheap place a block or two.

The trike driver stand in Mountain View is worth a walk. They have their own little community. I asked them how long have they to wait in line before a fare. About 40 minutes, They have their own little karaoke joint and they cook up a very dubious curry in a very big pot. My days of dining on such fare are, thankfully, long gone. Spoke to the jeepney drivers too, hard job and the government is screwing them over the global warming scam, two million PHP a piece and a life of debt.

On the youth topic, I noticed, on Fields, a network between ladyboy hookers and underage women / girls selling peanuts and the like. Not saying the youngsters were hooking but, even from thousands of miles away, I can smell that trap.

Outside of Phillies is an anthropologists' wet dream. Hookers of all genders and ages (the Ancient Mariner's wife will short time for 400 PHP), and various networks, hierarchies and so on.

Somewhat like pigeons, they regularly retreat to the bench opposite Phillies, realign their feathers and then return to hook a little more. Anthropologically fascinating but a tinge of danger too.

The same, in general goes for what passes for the roads and sidewalks. There must be fortunes to be made there fixing sprained ankles and the trikes, fumes and motorbikes remind me of the mass civilian retreats of World War 2.

Vaping seems to be really big. Horrible habit. One of the hookers I did a 3 some with was vaping even in bed. I had to tell her to be like little Jack Horner and do it in the corner. My days of being more forceful are gone. Allied to that is the awful habit of walking in where I am eating to buy a cigarette and a light. They light up before they leave. Cigarette smokers worldwide are a blight.

Then there are the Viagra sellers. I teamed up with them as I heckled some Bible thumpers on that bench, who were disturbing my ruminations on Walking St. Though I have no problem with them preaching their take on the word of God, I don't think blasting their crap music on their crap PA system into Phillies and adjoining bars is the way to do it. When I sent them packing, the Viagra sellers were on my side, even though they would not be the best to discuss the finer points in theology with.

Lots of openings for dentists with them as many of them are short a half set of teeth or more. Some of the young girls I saw at food stalls had black, rotten teeth. Not good.

Though self cooking would make sense for an extended stay and though some cheap Charlies do it, sometimes with the cheapest of food, a holiday should be a holiday which, for me, means no kitchen or similar duties. For those into cooking, the fish to be had downtown at the market look great (still alive and jumping and in need of a mallet to the head) and would be really up my street were I to cook on holiday. Same goes for the fruit and veg.

The converse of that is sloth, my life long friend. And the danger of sloth is ending up in Fields in the morning sipping coffee or a beer and staring into space as dementia starts to kick in.

I am afraid of that and the retirees I see drinking industrial levels of beer as they stare into space. There is some Yankee duty free place (members only) you can trike bike to and folk buy Western beers in serious drinking amounts, allowances of multiple litres a day. Sane goes for cigarettes.

The danger of eating Western food is putting on the pounds and extra chins and bellies.

I am monitoring plane prices now and might do a MacArthur and return. But that brings me to the price per bonk for senior citizens (sadly, no discounts on that from Pampanga's finest).

I guess, looking back on the examples I previously cited, the women size us up and cut their cloth accordingly. The young ones think I will get this fool's money and scarper and the older ones figure they will hang in close and be daddy's paid teddy bear for as long as the money lasts.

This daddy is not looking for a wife in Angeles, though I have met several on that fool's errand. I did mention my age (three score and ten) and I am fit enough for that age, though Robert F Kennedy Junior would easily beat me in MMA.

Walking through Fields where I like to keep a low profile, I have marvelled at seeing much older guys and in much worse condition than me. Whilst keeping a poker face, I have wondered how they could do "it" or much else besides with the dollies accompanying them. Not being judgmental, just being observant.

Though I get the advice to take beach trips etc, we can all agree we don't go to Angeles for its beaches or art galleries. Or indeed its food or shopping, though I usually buy useless electronic crap I don't need, as well as underwear and t shirts. Though one saves on their cheap labour, the various taxes cancel all that.

As regards Viagra / Kamagra which even the hotels sell. Leaving the health issues to one side, I feel now it is like cheating, a way to drill a business partner helpless. But maybe that is work for younger men (and those older studs I saw on Fields).

[Breadman]

I am 70 years old in good enough condition but I am not performing. A lot of it, I am sure, is stress. The relevance is is it worth my while returning? I have been there and am entitled to the t shirt. The days of heavy bonking is over but I would like to know what others think. Is it time to hang up the rifle as well as the gun?Well you say you don't want to use Kamagra but I'd suggest you buy one of those 7 pack kamagra jells for 500 pesos on the street or in your hotel. Its 100 MG but it being a gel it will allow you to choose how much is enough to get you firm but not too firm. Not enough that it will raise your BP too much, you can check that in the room. Give it an hour and then find a girl and see if it helps. I like to cut the top edge and squeeze out a droplet. I'll do maybe 4 which might be 40 MG. It will almost work for three girls for me. But its your health, you have to decide what you might want to give up. Try one droplet and see how you feel using that amount. If you have no heart issues but still a poor performance you can up it a tiny bit more.

[Turgid]

....... More to the point, my performance again sucked and I had to put up with their false moaning on top of that. I don't need that.

I can't really think of many bases beyond that. Though I was a sex tourist, I missed most of the sex and the tour. The question is should I go again and I am sure it is one many others must ask.

I am 70 years old in good enough condition but I am not performing. A lot of it, I am sure, is stress. The relevance is is it worth my while returning? I have been there and am entitled to the t shirt. The days of heavy bonking is over but I would like to know what others think. Is it time to hang up the rifle as well as the gun?My thinking is why hang up the rifle in the age of medical enhancements?

[NapaSlapper]

Whats been happening in angeles city over the last week and two barhops on walking street.

Skyfalls gogo bar, had been a while since I had been here, its a Korean owned and run bar, was welcomed by the manager and seated in good seats, quite a few girls in, dressed in longish light blue dresses cut away at the sides and some in short dresses, probably about 30 girls, many of them smiling and looking happy, customers were asians, our drinks 180 peso, bought a couple of lady drinks to girls I already knew well, lady drinks 350 peso, never asked but sure the barfine here is 5,000 peso short time, although a few ok looking girls not sure they were any where near 5,000 peso worth,2 drinks moved on but will be back, friendly bar and a few ok girls.

Atlantis bar, 30-40 odd girls, many of the girls are busy with their dance routines and not available for drinks during this time, two best girls here are both cherry girls, both 19 years old, very popular for drinks only with the asians, this night was quiet for punters so both girls free and came and sat with us, lady drinks 350 peso, our drinks,150 peso, one of these girls I know well and keeps asking when I'm going to pay the 150,000 peso she thinks her virginity is worth, sweet girl and would probably make a good wife for someone.

XS bar, seemed that girl numbers were well down, many regular faces missing, still even with the fewer girl numbers its the best angeles has to offer, very popular with the young asians, good energy bar and well run.

Monsoon bar, hit and miss bar is what we call this bar, one visit many girls, next visit very few girls, no stunners but occasionally a pretty, slim girl can be found, worth a visit even for just 1 drink.

Geckos bar, very few girls on stage probably about 7 or 8, two other older expat customers were already seated but seated alone, girls looked quite bored, mixture of oldies and fatties,1 quick drink and left.

Drinking buddy wanted to try la bamba bar, lollipop bar and then brown sugar bar, popped our heads in but never stayed for a drink, very few girls and no lookers.

Camelot bar, had more girls in than the last few bars, probably 20 odd girls, even had 3 or 4 customers,1 customer sitting with the only 2 girls that were ok looking and fairly slim, other girls mixture of oldies and fatties, 1 drink and left.

In summing up, punter numbers are down, especially westerners, girl numbers are down, prices creeping up, punter drinks, girl drinks, barfines seem to be on the move every few weeks, many girls looking bored and playing with their phones in the smaller bars, bigger bars, especially, xs bar atlantis, Q bar, avalon bar owner don't allow girls to slack, they are either on stage dancing or drinking with customers, no time to get bored or play with phones is the motto.

Many western bar owners and mummys are reporting that many nights there are no takers for barfines especially Monday through Thursday nights, some western bars starting to shut Mondays and some Tuesdays too due to low takings, weekends tends to pick up a bit but mainly with asians.

Heard two reports of westerners getting pick pocketed on the jeepnies over the last week, one lost his money and the other his new phone, guys, don't take out big amounts of money, buy a slim money belt and tuck it in your pants, keep your expensive phones in the safe and use an old phone on the streets is my advice.

Very hard to recommend angeles as a go to place to get laid by young attractive girls because although some girls are fairly attractive they tend to be drinks only girls or virgins, fine to visit if one is happy with bare back sex with 30-40 year old plain ladies.

[BaboyDave]

Whats been happening in angeles city over the last week and two barhops on walking street.

Skyfalls gogo bar, had been a while since I had been here, its a Korean owned and run bar, was welcomed by the manager and seated in good seats, quite a few girls in, dressed in longish light blue dresses cut away at the sides and some in short dresses, probably about 30 girls, many of them smiling and looking happy, customers were asians, our drinks 180 peso, bought a couple of lady drinks to girls I already knew well, lady drinks 350 peso, never asked but sure the barfine here is 5,000 peso short time, although a few ok looking girls not sure they were any where near 5,000 peso worth,2 drinks moved on but will be back, friendly bar and a few ok girls.

Atlantis bar, 30-40 odd girls, many of the girls are busy with their dance routines and not available for drinks during this time, two best girls here are both cherry girls, both 19 years old, very popular for drinks only with the asians, this night was quiet for punters so both girls free and came and sat with us, lady drinks 350 peso, our drinks,150 peso, one of these girls I know well and keeps asking when I'm going to pay the 150,000 peso she thinks her virginity is worth, sweet girl and would probably make a good wife for someone.

XS bar, seemed that girl numbers were well down, many regular faces missing, still even with the fewer girl numbers its the best angeles has to offer, very popular with the young asians, good energy bar and well run.

Monsoon bar, hit and miss bar is what we call this bar, one visit many girls, next visit very few girls, no stunners but occasionally a pretty, slim girl can be found, worth a visit even for just 1 drink.

Geckos bar, very few girls on stage probably about 7 or 8, two other older expat customers were already seated but seated alone, girls looked quite bored, mixture of oldies and fatties,1 quick drink and left.

Drinking buddy wanted to try la bamba bar, lollipop bar and then brown sugar bar, popped our heads in but never stayed for a drink, very few girls and no lookers.

Camelot bar, had more girls in than the last few bars, probably 20 odd girls, even had 3 or 4 customers,1 customer sitting with the only 2 girls that were ok looking and fairly slim, other girls mixture of oldies and fatties, 1 drink and left.

In summing up, punter numbers are down, especially westerners, girl numbers are down, prices creeping up, punter drinks, girl drinks, barfines seem to be on the move every few weeks, many girls looking bored and playing with their phones in the smaller bars, bigger bars, especially, xs bar atlantis, Q bar, avalon bar owner don't allow girls to slack, they are either on stage dancing or drinking with customers, no time to get bored or play with phones is the motto.

Many western bar owners and mummys are reporting that many nights there are no takers for barfines especially Monday through Thursday nights, some western bars starting to shut Mondays and some Tuesdays too due to low takings, weekends tends to pick up a bit but mainly with asians.

Heard two reports of westerners getting pick pocketed on the jeepnies over the last week, one lost his money and the other his new phone, guys, don't take out big amounts of money, buy a slim money belt and tuck it in your pants, keep your expensive phones in the safe and use an old phone on the streets is my advice.

Very hard to recommend angeles as a go to place to get laid by young attractive girls because although some girls are fairly attractive they tend to be drinks only girls or virgins, fine to visit if one is happy with bare back sex with 30-40 year old plain ladies.OMG OMG, a shocker!!

Napaslapper disrecommending Angeles City?! Who would've thunk it?

I'll be on the ground after 4 years of covid break (and a hop over to Makati, still with facemasks last July).

Will try to report on some more cheerful shenanigans during my visit.

[WestCoast1]

I'll be on the ground after 4 years of covid break (and a hop over to Makati, still with facemasks last July).Facemasks are still required on all PAL and CP flights, both overseas and domestic. No idea why this still exists, and there is no warning of this until they start the boarding process: "Don't forget all passengers must wear a facemask to board and for the duration of our flight". This comes just after: "Ladies and gentlemen, boarding for flight PR-321 will begin now, please line up to the left of the podium".

On a recent long-haul PAL flight, this was not announced until after people were boarding. We had all lined up when the announcement was made. Several of us did not bring a mask to the airport. PAL personnel provided masks to us.

On a more recent CP domestic flight, the same announcement came (after boarding had begun). I was in the pre-boarding line as I had spent extra for that for me and my girl. An elderly gent more forward in the line said he didn't have a mask. CP employee: "You try a gift shop". He literally gave up his place in line to go shopping for a 10-peso facemask. What if the gift shop doesn't have any stock? My girl and I also didn't have masks, so I handed her p100 and told her to hustle over to a nearby gift shop and buy two. Everything worked out. My point is: There was nothing on any website that said: "We are still in Covid-restricted status. All passengers must wear a mask onboard", or such.

Another Covid holdover: You might (still) be required to show your vaccine card at certain places. I was recently denied entry to a government building here because I didn't have a vax card on my person. Mine was never issued as a physical card. At the time in Manila, you had to pre-register an appointment date on an app. Once you received your QR code you uploaded your picture. They sent you a vax card image with your pic and QR code that was otherwise empty. You showed up at your determined location and showed this (on your phone) and got vaxed. Immediately your vax card image on your phone refreshed and it showed your vax date and location. All good, except its electronic. I screen-captured it way back when, and showed it when it was requested (had to show it for more than a year just to enter any Starbucks or Coffee Bean here). However that was not good enough recently to enter a government building. "You go make a photocopy of that and return sir". You MUST be kidding, ma'am.

I think we posted data on the board back then, data that showed vaccines effectiveness wears off quickly, in a matter of 5-8 months (faster the older you are, for elderly people they are effective for just a few months). Hence the need for boosters and such. The majority of the country's vaccinations were done in 2021. Doesn't that make them all outdated, and vax cards meaningless?

It makes superstitious people feel better. Rant off.

[Goferring]

.....Hence the need for boosters and such. The majority of the country's vaccinations were done in 2021. Doesn't that make them all outdated, and vax cards meaningless?

It makes superstitious people feel better. Rant off.Are you suggesting that tasks are generated to keep people employed in meaningless work like an endless loop of creating and signing off rules?

In the Philippines?? Never!!

Enjoy. G. 😜.

P.S. What's this pay for express service with CP that you write of? Perhaps I'm just too kuripot to have noticed it before.

[Goferring]

OMG OMG, a shocker!!

Napaslapper disrecommending Angeles City?! Who would've thunk it?

I'll be on the ground after 4 years of covid break (and a hop over to Makati, still with facemasks last July).

Will try to report on some more cheerful shenanigans during my visit.Reminds me of the current cat fight amongst the Duma / AC / BGC YouTube vloggers.

Why anyone would move to the PI to live close to other cranky expats is beyond me.

Cheers. G.

[Jarango]

Regarding Covid discussions, I went into SM Mall looking for either a dental appointment or a medical check up, I forget which. The receptionist, top floor in a corner, the guy was in full Hazmaz suit bio war gear, like when does WW3 begin. I went elsewhere where wearing disposable face masks was sketchy. The Philippines, last I looked, still has Covid checks at airports. Such a scam.

[NapaSlapper]

OMG OMG, a shocker!!

Napaslapper disrecommending Angeles City?! Who would've thunk it?

I'll be on the ground after 4 years of covid break (and a hop over to Makati, still with facemasks last July).

Will try to report on some more cheerful shenanigans during my visit.So let me get this straight, you have not been in angeles city for over 4 years yet think you have a clue of what is going on as of now or if its worth a visit or not, the mind boggles with some of your posts it really does.

Total waste of band width comes to mind.

[NapaSlapper]

Reminds me of the current cat fight amongst the Duma / AC / BGC YouTube vloggers.

Why anyone would move to the PI to live close to other cranky expats is beyond me.

Cheers. G.Cranky expats is so true of many, would add mental problems, fantasists, dreamers, loners, alcaholics and many more to that list.

Forgot the countless times I have been sat next to an old westerner mostly 70-80 years old who with their 1st breath will tell all that will listen of how they are ex special forces / sas, how they can kill by using just one little finger, how they have travelled the world and fucked hundreds of thousands of stunners, how they get free pussy from the top girls in angeles because they are such studs.

The world is made up of all sorts of people, some good some bad and some just fantasists, try my best to avoid most old expats in angeles, normally just give a nod and move on, have no time to listen to the total bull shite that comes out of most of their mouths most of the time.

[Sailor Jack]

Which K bar are you schilling for these days? Or are you on the payroll for the AC korean bar owners chamber of commerce?

Looks like all your pro K propaganda is for nil LMAO give it up the jig is up LOL..........MDS1 and BaboyDave;.

Please be reminded that ISG offers an 'Ignore List' in settings. The Ignore list means that Sailor Jack can avoid seeing NonSense from senior troll NoShow. Except when you re-post it. Do not feed the troll.

Happy Sails!

[NapaSlapper]

Earlier today Sailor Jack got the following text from K2;.

K2;.

Sweety can come you.

Need go salon.

Go back black hair.

Most Swabbies get it, but just in case, Sailor Jack will explain. K2 wants Sailor Jack to fuck her in the ass so she can afford to color her hair back to black.Looks to be a heavy girl, maybe saving her hair colour money and joining a gym would serve her better.

[Dg8787]

MDS1 and BaboyDave;.

Please be reminded that ISG offers an 'Ignore List' in settings. The Ignore list means that Sailor Jack can avoid seeing NonSense from senior troll NoShow. Except when you re-post it. Do not feed the troll.

Happy Sails!Yes, there is an ignore button but many have told me NS is quite a laugh. Same have told me NS is not worth a "keystroke" is why no response.

His SAM (Save A Monger) posts are good fiction.

I can attest that AC the past week was quite busy especially in Lollipop. Lollipop with the 2 colors bikinis representing 2 different barfine prices. Confirmed with the bargirls, waitress "S" and white manager. Anyone ever been there can attest to the same.

Many Koreans at ABC Hotel, quite disappointed with the rain over several days resulting in no golfing for them.

Looking at the Koreans with their bargirls I can assure you that they don't all have the "stunners".

Always listen to the participants instead of the sideline spectators is all I can tell you.

[D Cups]

Cranky expats is so true of many, would add mental problems, fantasists, dreamers, loners, alcaholics and many more to that list.

Forgot the countless times I have been sat next to an old westerner mostly 70-80 years old who with their 1st breath will tell all that will listen of how they are ex special forces / sas, how they can kill by using just one little finger, how they have travelled the world and fucked hundreds of thousands of stunners, how they get free pussy from the top girls in angeles because they are such studs.

The world is made up of all sorts of people, some good some bad and some just fantasists, try my best to avoid most old expats in angeles, normally just give a nod and move on, have no time to listen to the total bull shite that comes out of most of their mouths most of the time.That's just plain disrespectful. How old are you?

[WestCoast1]

Please be reminded that ISG offers an 'Ignore List' in settings. The Ignore list means that Sailor Jack can avoid seeing NonSense from senior troll NoShow. Except when you re-post it. Do not feed the troll.He's on my Ignore list also. On occasion I see his writings when others quote him. I'm ambivalent of his posts, as sometimes I find them accurate when my boots are on the ground.


Need go salon.

Go back black hair.

Most Swabbies get it, but just in case, Sailor Jack will explain. K2 wants Sailor Jack to fuck her in the ass so she can afford to color her hair back to black.Interesting. I see from a recently quoted NS missive, that NS has an opinion on SJ's wench. NS has been suggestive to the gents that we post pictures of bar conquests so he can decide if they are up to his standard. Yet as he is a non-poster of pics, and says he does not barfine (nothing wrong with not barfining), isn't it hypocritical of him to judge other's pics? Khan, Oppenheimer, Hitler, Jobs, Musk, and Slapper: They all danced on the edge.

A sachet of black hair coloring can be had for p50. It can be done in a salon for a few hundred pesos. If a booby critter (chubby or not) offers to let you push her stool in, in exchange for hair coloring, you'd have to be crazy not to do it?

Has a girl ever skipped coloring her hair to go to the gym?

[Dg8787]

He's on my Ignore list also. On occasion I see his writings when others quote him. I'm ambivalent of his posts, as sometimes I find them accurate when my boots are on the ground.

Interesting. I see from a recently quoted NS missive, that NS has an opinion on SJ's wench. NS has been suggestive to the gents that we post pictures of bar conquests so he can decide if they are up to his standard. Yet as he is a non-poster of pics, and says he does not barfine (nothing wrong with not barfining), isn't it hypocritical of him to judge other's pics? Khan, Oppenheimer, Hitler, Jobs, Musk, and Slapper: They all danced on the edge.

A sachet of black hair coloring can be had for p50. It can be done in a salon for a few hundred pesos. If a booby critter (chubby or not) offers to let you push her stool in, in exchange for hair coloring, you'd have to be crazy not to do it?

Has a girl ever skipped coloring her hair to go to the gym?He clearly stated he has not barfined a girl.

Also 70% of Pinays pussy smells.

Also 100% of Pinays have loose pussies.

Reminds me of Pinocchio and Tinkerbell.

Clearly 100% SAM (Save A Monger) mission.

[Dg8787]

Looks to be a heavy girl, maybe saving her hair colour money and joining a gym would serve her better.IMO she looks firm and voluminous. Quite sexy. Sensuous women come in many shapes and ages. I have come to appreciate all forms.

As I said earlier, great catch.

[CrowExplorer]

Thank you for your replies. I will give a few more bits of info some might find useful and then go back to my own issue of wanting to bonk till I die.

Though I get the advice to take beach trips etc, we can all agree we don't go to Angeles for its beaches or art galleries. Or indeed its food or shopping, though I usually buy useless electronic crap I don't need, as well as underwear and t shirts. Though one saves on their cheap labour, the various taxes cancel all that.

As regards Viagra / Kamagra which even the hotels sell. Leaving the health issues to one side, I feel now it is like cheating, a way to drill a business partner helpless. But maybe that is work for younger men (and those older studs I saw on Fields).All of your info and insight is greatly appreciated.

I haven't mongered abroad very much, save a few trips to Mexico.

When I went to Cancun, for instance.

I went to all the beaches.

Went to any interesting looking restaurants and bars.

Played a lot of Texas Hold'them and met some cool people that way.

Took a ferry over to Isla Mujeres and spent a day exploring there.

And yeah, I fucked a couple girls, one of which was the hottest woman I have ever been with in my life, definitely the highlight of the trip, but even if that hadn't worked out ok, it still would have been a worthwhile trip to me.

If there isn't anything else to do but go to the bar and fuck women, I'm not sure that I would want to make the trip back to Angeles either. Maybe find a different location? Sosua perhaps?

As far as pharmaceuticals are concerned, Hugh Hefner used to say "viagra is the best legal drug ever made", and I agree with him. I'm in my thirties, and I will take one of those blue vitamins just to ensure there are no issues. Just one less thing to worry about.

Take care brother!

[Goferring]

A sachet of black hair coloring can be had for p50. It can be done in a salon for a few hundred pesos. If a booby critter (chubby or not) offers to let you push her stool in, in exchange for hair coloring, you'd have to be crazy not to do it?

Has a girl ever skipped coloring her hair to go to the gym?Here on the Haircare Channel 😜 I'd encourage SJ to buy said colouring locally. Bringing it as a gift from home, while well intentioned, is likely to lead to disaster. Asian black hair and Caucasian black hair are two different beasts. Using the latter on a pinay does not lead to a beautiful sunkissed look but more a streaky orangy-purple mess. Not attractive at all.

Her effusive thanks and keeness to use it now also leads to destroyed hotel carpets and an expensive checkout.

In short, follow Westies advice and buy locally. 👍.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

He's on my Ignore list also. On occasion I see his writings when others quote him. I'm ambivalent of his posts, as sometimes I find them accurate when my boots are on the ground.

Interesting. I see from a recently quoted NS missive, that NS has an opinion on SJ's wench. NS has been suggestive to the gents that we post pictures of bar conquests so he can decide if they are up to his standard. Yet as he is a non-poster of pics, and says he does not barfine (nothing wrong with not barfining), isn't it hypocritical of him to judge other's pics? Khan, Oppenheimer, Hitler, Jobs, Musk, and Slapper: They all danced on the edge...I haven't blocked anyone as I enjoy a good sideshow comedy. We had Messrs Trainwreck and Reach Around for a while too but they seem to have gone quiet. It's good to see new players step up to the plate and entertain us.

You're the photo king. The only time I've posted photos is at the express request of the lady in question, often her attempt to drum up more business or to fulfill specific needs. A broke Cebu newbie seeking a paid traineeship and a sweet Davao girl who sought out sissybois that she could watch getting pegged jump to mind (certainly not my field of expertise but she had many hot girlfriends, hence the offer to help). The only hypocrisy I see is endless comments on how shit a place is immediately followed by using living there for decades due to some pretend golden handcuffs as qualifications for making those comments. I think AC is shit too but I only stay for a few days of seedy fun before I'm ready to vomit or blackout.

In truth, I'm happy to support both sides. I can filter out the garbage and just wait for words of comedy or wisdom as they arise from either party.

Rant off. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

Sailor Jack,

What is the difference between Skinny and Spinner crew? What is WBTYM? Why does the picture not show the most valued asset. K2's perfect titties?

Thanks for the update.Spinner. Spinner is someone who is skinny and small enough relative to your size while she is cowgirling you that you can spin her around to reverse CG. That is a spinner.

At breakfast today I saw a 6' 3" 225 lb man with a 5' 0" 45 kilo girl. Definitely a spinner.

[Dg8787]

Looks to be a heavy girl, maybe saving her hair colour money and joining a gym would serve her better.FYI.

Due to your admitted lack of experience or non experience that is a highly desired female body. Glad to educate you SAM. I understand you may have never had this point of view before.

[Volterra]

IMO she looks firm and voluminous. Quite sexy. Sensuous women come in many shapes and ages. I have come to appreciate all forms.

As I said earlier, great catch.I agree. I think she looks f'ing hot, worth every moment of bed wrestling and pounding to oblivion. Great find and nice variety contrast from the one before her.

[Old And Ugly]

Thank you for your replies. I will give a few more bits of info some might find useful and then go back to my own issue of wanting to bonk till I die.

If you walk away from Fields past Johnnys, there is a quiet tree lined road to the right .......Excellent narative, you're a great observer, I do the same sometimes, but unlike you, I cannot translate that into words.

Thank you for the post.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack is cruising Fields Avenue Bars in an afternoon barhop. Sailor Jack makes a rare appearance in a cigarette smoke filled bar across from the Fields Avenue stalls. Sailor Jack orders a coke zero, no glass. Sailor Jack is perusing the goods on stage and minding his own business like always.

The chubby mamasan comes over and she sits way too close to Sailor Jack. ChubbyMama puts her hand on Sailor Jack's thigh, makes a sweeping motion at the 20 girls on stage, and scans the girls with a laser pointer. ChubbyMama says 'What kind girl you like?' ChubbyMama begins telling Sailor Jack about some of the girls on stage. Sailor Jack's sunny good-natured disposition is immediately clouded over. Sailor Jack does not need someone to read him the menu, fuck you very much.

Then ChubbyMama exclaims 'I have just the girl for you!' Sailor Jack wonders just how ChubbyMama thinks she knows this considering she has never met Sailor Jack and SJ has yet to utter a word amongst ChubbyMama's puffery. ChubbyMama says 'I have 18-year-old cherry girl for you, she just came from the province. ' Sailor Jack is doubtful but titillated.

Sailor Jack tells ChubbyMama to bring J18 right on over. J18 arrives from backstage and approaches with her head slightly bowed, as the girls here seem to be trained to do. Gentlemen monger Sailor Jack stands, motions for J18 to sit, and Sailor Jack begins the interview. J18 is very, very pretty. J18 wears no makeup, and she has a perfect smile. J18 has golden light brown skin, no tattoos, and a flawless complexion. J18 is 4'11", and she looks to weigh maybe 85 pounds. J18 has very sexy, sleek legs. Sailor Jack confirms all details, and the whole cherry girl from the province bit appears to be legitimate. Sailor Jack's interview contains several false leads to trip up J18, and she unwarily passes them all. Sailor Jack checks J18's Hygiene card and notes the red see. Sailor Jack motions for ChubbyMama and tells her that we have a deal.

ChubbyMama says "Wait, first we must talk about some things. ".

Sailor Jack interrupts, and rapidly blurts out the following; "I do understand, Mama. I have lived in Angeles for years. I know what a Cherry Girl is. Talaga. She is a virgin. Verified by Hygiene. She does not boom boom. She is not going to boom boom. Boom boom is not going to happen. No boom boom. No how. No way. I will not force her. I will not hurt her. I will not penetrate her in any way. I will not brow beat her. I will not shame her or make her feel bad in any way. She is a virgin today, and she will be same virgin tomorrow. But oh Mama, how Sailor Jack is going to lick that little cherry girl pussy!

ChubbyMama is speechless and she blinks her eyes several times. After a pause, ChubbyMama says "Oo, that's it. " ChubbyMama is a bit taken aback by Sailor Jack's grasp of the situation, but SJ's rapid fire recitation of ground rules completely reassure ChubbyMama and saves SJ a 30-minute lecture on same. Sailor Jack's expectations are some vigorous virgin pussy-licking and not much else. Blue notes flash by. J18 and Sailor Jack leave for SJ's hotel.

The guard at the hotel checks J18's ID for a long time because J18 really does not look like she is 18.

Once in the room, Sailor Jack sits on the bed and stands J18 in front of SJ. Sailor Jack undresses J18 very slowly, kissing and licking every bit of her silky soft skin. Sailor Jack firmly grasps J18's hips and guides her to her back on the bed, placing a pillow under her head. Sailor Jack kisses down to the glorious virgin Filipina pussy. J18's tiny little perfect pink lips glisten and they are not even as wide as Sailor Jack's tongue. Sailor Jacks licks that little pussy lustily and J18 writhes and moans. Sailor Jack's tongue verifies the cherry and licks and licks and licks. This goes on for a long time and J18 orgasms three different times. And these are real, convulsing, shaking orgasms. Sailor Jack can tell the difference between real and fake, and J18 is not sophisticated enough yet to fake it. Sailor Jack moves J18's limp body into 69 position. J18 sucks Sailor Jack's tiller lick a pro, giving an amazing blowjob. Sailor Jack offloads a huge cargo of cum and J18 swallows every bit, with her perfect little ass cheeks and virgin pussy never leaving Sailor Jack's rather handsome face.

Sailor Jack does not know if there is a fountain of youth, but SJ thinks that biting down on an 18-year-old Filipina pussy is about as close as it gets.

Sailor Jack sees cherry girl J18 several times. Always the same routine, always hours of glorious virgin pussy licking and a fantastic deep throat blowjob. Total bliss.

[Sailor Jack]

J18 would leave the bar and go back to her nearby province to finish high school. Sailor Jack keeps in touch with J18. Several times J18 meets Sailor Jack in a nearby beach town for a long beach weekend and some serious fucking. J18 is no longer a cherry girl. Sailor Jack is amazed at what an outstanding fuck J18 is considering she only recently lost her virginity (not SJ's doing).

Sailor Jack would meet J18 at the bus station in BeachTown and J18 would still be wearing her high school uniform. Sailor Jack would take her right to the hotel and help her out of that school uniform, albeit very slowly. Undressing J18 was like unwrapping the most fantastic Christmas present of all time. And every time is better than the last.

Sailor Jack would get to know J18 pretty well. J18 is very intelligent, and she is doing her best to deal with a difficult home life. Father is gone of course and J18's mother has some serious mental problems. J18's younger sister is taking the brunt of that. Still, J18 is sweet and kind and loving. J18 has some real ambition in life. Sometimes Sailor Jack's thoughts drift to some what-ifs concerning J18. Then Sailor Jack catches himself and reminds himself 'Enjoy the moment, Sailor Jack. Just enjoy the moment. '.

Sailor Jack and J18 have their arguments and they drift apart.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack is back in Angeles City making his rounds. Sailor Jack makes a rare visit to a chain smoker bar near Kokomos. Sailor Jack is drinking a San Miguel Light and minding his own business like always. Now there is a lot of stupid shit in Angeles Fucking City, but here is one of Sailor Jack's favorites. This bar does that parade thing where they make all the girls walk around the bar for the customers. Not once. Not twice. But three times! Sailor Jack just loves this Flipina- humiliating spectacle. So the girls begin this embarrassing stroll around the bar and who does Sailor Jack spy - J18 !

Sailor Jack grabs J18's thin wrist, pulls her close, puts his right hand on the back of her head, and plants a serious long deep throat kiss on J18 to the hoots and hollers of the girls on stage. Sailor Jack knows how to break the ice.

J18 left school because she needed money. J18 hopes to make enough money to get her little sister away from her mother. Thoughts of finishing high school and going to college have vanished.

J18 and Sailor Jack rekindle. The sex is even better. But things are different now. J18 is now 19, and she is already a pro. Because J18 is so hot and so fucking good, for a while she is a special-order girl through the bar, being ordered online only. She rarely actually goes into the bar anymore. Sailor Jack would learn that J18 was doing multiple short times per day now. Because J18 is smart and she is in great demand, J18 moved to full time freelancer, cutting out the bar entirely.

Here is the last time Sailor Jack saw J18. Sailor Jack is his condo one afternoon reading the newspaper online. Sailor Jack gets a text from J18.

J18; Hi, what you doing.

SJ; Hi Cutey! How are you?

J18; good, you busy?

SJ; Just at my condo reading, whatsup?

J18; you want?

Sailor Jack thinks for a moment. Sailor Jack really wants to move on. But damn, J18 is just about the finest piece of ass imaginable. And Sailor Jack's tiller perks up at the mere thought of J18. Sailor Jack tells J18 'Hell yes!

Less than 2 minutes later there is a knock at Sailor Jack's cabin door and SJ opens the door to see hot little J18 standing there smiling. Now, Sailor Jack lives in a high-rise condo, security is strict, and no non-resident can get in unescorted, especially not to the 9th floor. This means that J18 was already in the building. This means that J18 came in with some other guy. This means J18 just finished a short time with some other guy and she texted Sailor Jack because she was already in the building. Sailor Jack says 'Hey, maybe some other time' and closes the door.

J18 went from cherry girl to hard core pro in just 12 months.

J18 is not a victim, not really.

J18 is not being taken advantage of.

J18 does not want a boyfriend.

J18 does not want a husband.

J18 does not want to be rescued.

J18 has some control, to a degree.

J18 loves the money.

J18 loves the Life.

J18 loves that guys want her.

J18 loves that she is more popular than other girls.

J18 will have 5 good years.

J18 will then have 5 bad years.

J18 will then be walking Fields Avenue, or maybe become a chubby mamasan, or maybe be toothless and back in the province like her mother beating her children for no apparent reason.

[TjBrazil]

SJ, you made one mistake. You should have checked her ID before you left the bar just to be safe. You don't want to go to the hotel and they check her ID and she is 17. Now they think you're bringing minors over.

[Coolie High]

Sailor Jack does not know if there is a fountain of youth, but SJ thinks that biting down on an 18-year-old Filipina pussy is about as close as it gets.

Sailor Jack sees cherry girl J18 several times. Always the same routine, always hours of glorious virgin pussy licking and a fantastic deep throat blowjob. Total bliss.As always I'm enjoying the Sailor Jack adventures. Damn shame that J18 has already turn hardcore right before your very eyes. But that's what happen when some of these girls come from dealing with extreme poverty while having the full gravity of being the main sole provider of the family rest on their shoulders at barely 18. I'm not mad at her chasing the money but its funny how alot of these girls don't have an exit strategy. Her youth won't last forever or the amount of money and attention she is gettin now so she needs to be puttin that bread away for a raining day.

I'm curious did you ever give serious thought to ever keeping J18 totally to yourself before she became hardcore? I'm pretty sure that you couldve groomed her to your total liking as she would've learned from you and done everything you asked. Now the cost would be that you would have had to be involved in helping her family dynamics which can take a financial and mental toll on you if you don't stay on top of it BUT like you said theres no greater fountain of youth then being with a fresh young hunny dip.

So from the outside looking in, the benefit in keeping her as your own "before" she turned hardcore looked good on paper then the overall cost.

[Dg8787]

SJ, you made one mistake. You should have checked her ID before you left the bar just to be safe. You don't want to go to the hotel and they check her ID and she is 17. Now they think you're bringing minors over.Another absent spectator. We already have an entrenched one. Advice from active experienced participants are much appreciated.

I am sure he knew what he was doing.

[Sailor Jack]

As always I'm enjoying the Sailor Jack adventures. Damn shame that J18 has already turn hardcore right before your very eyes. But that's what happen when some of these girls come from dealing with extreme poverty while having the full gravity of being the main sole provider of the family rest on their shoulders at barely 18. (1) I'm not mad at her chasing the money but its funny how alot of these girls don't have an exit strategy. Her youth won't last forever or the amount of money and attention she is gettin now so she needs to be puttin that bread away for a raining day.

(2) I'm curious did you ever give serious thought to ever keeping J18 totally to yourself before she became hardcore? I'm pretty sure that you couldve groomed her to your total liking as she would've learned from you and done everything you asked. Now the cost would be that you would have had to be involved in helping her family dynamics which can take a financial and mental toll on you if you don't stay on top of it BUT like you said theres no greater fountain of youth then being with a fresh young hunny dip.(4)

(3) So from the outside looking in, the benefit in keeping her as your own "before" she turned hardcore looked good on paper then the overall cost.Wow Coolie, you have some thought-provoking points.

(1) Please be reminded that for nearly all these girls the bar IS the exit strategy. Most of the girls have situations that are far worse than the bar life. And thoughts of the future or saving for something better well, that is a luxury few can afford or even dream about. Bahala na.

(2) Yes, most definitely Sailor Jack considered it. The full response here could take pages, but Sailor Jack will try to keep it short. Sailor Jack always sensed (correctly) that J18 had cards she was not playing. Sailor Jack also sensed (unfortunately, again correctly) that J18 was on a certain course and that Sailor Jack was just a waypoint for her. Still worse, Sailor Jack must admit that SJ has maybe never wanted a woman so badly as SJ wanted J18. Those be dangerous waters, Swabbie. It was hard for Sailor Jack to keep J18 at arms-length, but SJ knew he must. Sailor Jack was not always successful at keeping it at arm's length.

(3) Maybe so, maybe. Wow, another topic that could take pages. As mentioned, Sailor Jack wanted J18 badly. To keep it short, sometimes it is cheaper to rent than to buy. Cheaper financially. And cheaper emotionally. Aye?

(4) Image; Sailor Jack's current GF1; CuddleBunny1, 4'9", 85 pounds. CB1 sleeps 12 hours per day. This is perfect because CB1 ain't talking to Sailor Jack, CB1 ain't spending money, and CB1 is right where SJ needs her. When this picture was taken, CB1 was 20 days past her 18th birthday. Aye!

[Goferring]

I'm not mad at her chasing the money but its funny how alot of these girls don't have an exit strategy. Her youth won't last forever or the amount of money and attention she is gettin now so she needs to be puttin that bread away for a raining day.Many new or up and coming girls do have an exit strategy. It may be starting a sari sari, a boarding house or a farm. However, what they don't allow for is the constant outflow of money to parents, uncles, younger brothers, boyfriend's etc that will forever keep her broke. As soon as there is any nest egg, it will be siphoned off and she will never be allowed to get ahead.

I'm semi convinced that this is why hookers are so focussed on pointless purchases and instant gratification: if they don't spend it now, then it will just disappear.

Cheers. G.

[Sammon]

Once girl gets into Angeles bar scene she learns lots of skills. How to make money quickly and easily. How to fool men. How to enjoy life buying things she could never dream of in her village. Her family is greatful and will be the envy of neighbors. Even a supposedly innocent friendly girl turns out different learning Angeles city tricks.

Problem is they think the money flow continues forever. Along the way if she gets pregnant it is back to the poor house for her. I have seen many girls over the years sunk to despair. There is no way out.

I have tried to improve life for couple of girls sending them home and spending money on their studies etc. But failed all the same.

[Goferring]

Even a supposedly innocent friendly girl turns out different learning Angeles city tricks.

Problem is they think the money flow continues forever. Your and SJ's comment can be combined in many cases: Ms Pretty19 starts off enjoying the life, not wanting to be saved but soons morphs into not able to escape, addicted to the trappings.

Unfortunately, I've noticed one comment that is often said about the destroyed shabu fiend that lives around all the red light areas: older girls always say that these lost souls were once the prettiest and busiest girls in town.

Enjoy. G.

[Jarango]

I am a little colour blind, not a good asset for an electrician but good for a sniper. I have inter acted with hookers for about 50 years now. I have learned some of what is to be learned from them and know when a leaf moves.

I have, on occasions, paid them sizeable sums to FK off back home and get out of Dodge. Small beans to me but life saving to them, if they followed through.

Sailor Jack says this, that and the other about his little LFBM. Fair enough. I have seen them at 5 am when we breakfast in the same flea pit together. The hard pulls on the cheap cigarettes, the cheap mascara, the wrinkles of middle age forming around their dead eyes, even though they are only 20. I have never asked for any of their hands in marriage.

In far off times, I had a nice restaurant scoped out, lovely fish, service and nice coffee. I'the talk to the local Pinoy who had a good gig going letting folk send $$ back home to the provinces and babes out of my league who had Korean sponsors. Life was good.

Then they hired some 30 ish ex hooker who had been living with a Yank who got a heart attack and died. I gave her a generous tip and went about my day. Next I heard, she had moved her teenage daughters into the restaurant for free grub and expected me, who had minimal dealings with her, to shack up with her and keep her in TV and Jolibees. I might be mad but I am not that mad.

But all of that is too common. Life is what it is. Sad but true.

I might return to Clark. It is a long way. The clincher is medical treatment and some such, not dime a dozen hookers of any vintage. Turn them upside down and they all look the same.

Last time in Angeles, I watched a cat square up to a rat at an open sewer. I do not need that. Nor do I need it in human form.

I have been to Jolibee with hookers, not because it is my scene but because it is theirs. Different worlds that should collide for exchanging semen and little else.

[BroComplex]

Very hard to recommend angeles as a go to place to get laid by young attractive girls because although some girls are fairly attractive they tend to be drinks only girls or virgins, fine to visit if one is happy with bare back sex with 30-40 year old plain ladies.That's sad. I was hoping to go to the Philippines again next month but it seems like angeles city is turning into a ghost town.

[Coolie High]

I have tried to improve life for couple of girls sending them home and spending money on their studies etc. But failed all the same.Hey at the end of the day its up to them to take the knowledge and opportunities that you give them and apply it to their life to uplift themselves. So many times we here about these girls fall back into the cycle but rarely do we hear about all the "missed opportunities" these girls had to completely uplfit themselves.

I put money at one point each and every one of us found a young hunny dip that was perfect for us individually and proceeded to try help her to only see her turn hardcore and / or try to bite the hand that feed them because some schmuck of a family member or friend put a bug in their ear and told her she can get greedy and ask for more even though she's already eating and living well, to only be traded in for a newer younger model.

So IMHO you shouldn't see it as a failure because you did what you could do to help BUT more on the lines of them fucking up a major opportunity.


Many new or up and coming girls do have an exit strategy. It may be starting a sari sari, a boarding house or a farm. However, what they don't allow for is the constant outflow of money to parents, uncles, younger brothers, boyfriend's etc that will forever keep her broke. As soon as there is any nest egg, it will be siphoned off and she will never be allowed to get ahead.

I'm semi convinced that this is why hookers are so focussed on pointless purchases and instant gratification: if they don't spend it now, then it will just disappear.

Cheers. G.Yeah it is a troubling but its the same cycle anybody in the world that comes from having no money to now having alot of money. You see it all the time with nfl, nba players etc, that comes across an abundance of money and then proceed to help everybody in their family to the point of losing all their nest egg and going bankrupt. These hunnys got to learn just like everybody else that those who keep their money for the long haul understands and have masterd this one word, to whomever constantly pressure them for money. And that sacred word is NO!



(4) Image; Sailor Jack's current GF1; CuddleBunny1, 4'9", 85 pounds. CB1 sleeps 12 hours per day. This is perfect because CB1 ain't talking to Sailor Jack, CB1 ain't spending money, and CB1 is right where SJ needs her. When this picture was taken, CB1 was 20 days past her 18th birthday. Aye!VERY NICE 😁. I see Sailor Jack didn't lose his step and bounced back with another young hunny dip. That's how you do it. Keep the adventures coming.

[Dg8787]

That's sad. I was hoping to go to the Philippines again next month but it seems like angeles city is turning into a ghost town.NS SAM (Save A Monger) program works. Kudos NS.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Mr J.

I read with great interest your thoughts, however philosophically melancholic.

Thought provoking. I know that I am there for a short season, to bring some happiness to myself, hopefully some form of respite to the one I am with.

Great read, Victor.


I am a little colour blind, not a good asset for an electrician but good for a sniper. I have inter acted with hookers for about 50 years now. I have learned some of what is to be learned from them and know when a leaf moves.

I have, on occasions, paid them sizeable sums to FK off back home and get out of Dodge. Small beans to me but life saving to them, if they followed through.

Sailor Jack says this, that and the other about his little LFBM. Fair enough. I have seen them at 5 am when we breakfast in the same flea pit together. The hard pulls on the cheap cigarettes, the cheap mascara, the wrinkles of middle age forming around their dead eyes, even though they are only 20. I have never asked for any of their hands in marriage.

In far off times, I had a nice restaurant scoped out, lovely fish, service and nice coffee. I'the talk to the local Pinoy who had a good gig going letting folk send $$ back home to the provinces and babes out of my league who had Korean sponsors. Life was good.

Then they hired some 30 ish ex hooker who had been living with a Yank who got a heart attack and died. I gave her a generous tip and went about my day. Next I heard, she had moved her teenage daughters into the restaurant for free grub and expected me, who had minimal dealings with her, to shack up with her and keep her in TV and Jolibees. I might be mad but I am not that mad.

But all of that is too common. Life is what it is. Sad but true.

I might return to Clark. It is a long way. The clincher is medical treatment and some such, not dime a dozen hookers of any vintage. Turn them upside down and they all look the same.

Last time in Angeles, I watched a cat square up to a rat at an open sewer. I do not need that. Nor do I need it in human form.

I have been to Jolibee with hookers, not because it is my scene but because it is theirs. Different worlds that should collide for exchanging semen and little else.

[MoonShot]

That's sad. I was hoping to go to the Philippines again next month but it seems like angeles city is turning into a ghost town.The Philippines is more than Angeles City. Angeles City is the easiest way to ease into the country but once you have more experience, you should check out some of the other cities and try out online dating. It is definitely an adventure with flakes, scams and no-shows but then you do get your gems in the rough. You do have to put in more time and effort.

[NapaSlapper]

He clearly stated he has not barfined a girl.

Also 70% of Pinays pussy smells.

Also 100% of Pinays have loose pussies.

Reminds me of Pinocchio and Tinkerbell.

Clearly 100% SAM (Save A Monger) mission.Never barfined a girl?? Please read what I actually say before rushing to your own version might help.

Over an almost 30 year stay in angeles for me and some others good friends I think its fair to say that we have barfined hundreds if not thousands of bargirls over the years, read my many reports of closing down bars between 3 or 4 of us and being alone with 30-40 naked pinays, what did you think we did this for, maybe to play monopoly or scrabble? No to enjoy the multiple young fresh pinays on offer.

Yes many that are here full time and have experienced what angeles had to offer before are not able to find girls of that quality in the new angeles city as of now and on the very rare occasions me and my any drinking buddies do see an ok looking girl she is unfortunately always working in a korean oriented bar and has koreans throwing large money at her all without her showing the colour of her panties to anyone, why because she earns far more than most foreigners for drinks only.

Yes some come to angeles and only want to put more notches on a bed post and don't care of the girls age, weight looks, personal hygiene etc, as long as she is cheap and will bang without a condom they are good to go, unfortunately not the style of many of us that live here, why, because we are not 2 day desperados that just flew in from loveless countries but have the time to choose wisely mostly from young atractive, slim girls that have nothing to do with the type of girls found in the bars of angeles.

As far as 100% loose pinay pussies,70% pinays that have stinky pussies, rather than making up your own version of what I post please show me and the board members where I actually stated such, exactly, you can't,just more wasted band width and baseless accusations comes to mind.

Anyways lollipop bar just last night had all girls in white coloured t backs (thongs) and white tops totally debunking your previous claims of 2 colour bikinis to show the girls different ewr prices.

Bar hop report of last nights barhop to follow in the next few days to let the good members of this board know what is the latest from giys that are actually here, maybe time to add me to your ignore list in order to save your blood pressure rising to too dangerous levels.

[Engine Driver]

I haven't blocked anyone as I enjoy a good sideshow comedy. We had Messrs Trainwreck and Reach Around for a while too but they seem to have gone quiet. It's good to see new players step up to the plate and entertain us.

Enjoy. G.Messrs Trainwreck and Reacharound are busy engaging in commerce and getting rich in their respective home countries. They no longer have the time to write free fictional articles, for them only to be moderated to buggery. Besides, it's far cheaper to fuck hot girls in Rich White Man Land than it is to go over to pick up sluts from Tondo. Goodbye Philippines.

[Dg8787]

I was there 3 nights last week.

Still 2 tier barfine pricing. 3500 for one group. 4000 for the other "spotlight" girls. Confirmed with the waitress, momma San and more IMPORTANTLY with the girl I barfined for 3500. Can't really tell the difference with the 3500 girls from the spotlight ones. Quality about the same. Mostly 7-8's. Lollipop was pretty crowded all 3 nights I was there.

There was a 4th night. I had just barfined 2 girls at 4 k each from a Korean bar and per their request to see another bar I took them to Lollipop. It was around 8 pm. We walked thru Lollipop but it was so crowded and all the seats we taken except for a few bar stools. No Koreans were in sight. Runway was full of 7-8's. We immediately left for my hotel.

[Breadman]

Man are the streets here in Angeles empty during rainy season, you stop into a bar filled with 40 very attractive ladies and there are 6 older guys spattered around the bar. Bar hoping sure is interesting in a downpour. Power going out here and there making walking into the depth of 'hell' even more of an adventure. There are very few tourists here now, even the Koreans know to avoid typhoon season I guess. More and more girls are getting desperate it seems with lack of customers. Another bar got shut down the other day "cosplay". Not sure why. Before the rain came I'd stop in there and smell sewage. So maybe the Koreans who were running the place didn't want to pay someone to fix the problem and got shut down? Just guessing. A buddy of mine just bought airfare from the USA to Thailand for late October, yes a bit late so he had to pay up at $1,800 usd but even in February the prices are just outrageous. Higher prices for shorter legs, bigger layovers getting a smaller rate. Makes me wonder how many guys are going to pass on the Philippines if they can only visit one location?

[Aml3740]

Even though the Philippines has a lot of exposure to western culture and values, it is still a very different place. Elders are respected and teenagers and young adults are expected to help their families. For young attractive women, landing a foreign BF can be gold. They want to help their families. While we see everybody and their brother with a hand out (which isn't entirely untrue), the girls are happy they can help them and take some pride in that. I've never been to Angeles, as bars are not my scene, but I have met several girls in Manila and the province. The ones who talk honestly have told me this is why they are working, whether it is as an escort or freelancer on a dating website. It is support their family, and usually at least one kid of their own staying with their family.

My first few trips to the Philippines, I just used escort agencies since I was staying in Manila before going to the province. My last trip, I used Pinalove and set up with a girl on there. She was a freelancer, and they're not hard to find. I had others that wanted to meet, but flaked out. It just takes a little work. If I drank, maybe I would give Angeles a try someday just for the experience hehehe.

[Dg8787]

Every posts that challenges or offers a different view to NapaSlapper he pulls and hides it in Stupid Shit in Philippines forum so few will see it.

It doesn't change what others have posted that are contrary to NS posts.

[Goferring]

Messrs Trainwreck and Reacharound are busy engaging in commerce and getting rich in their respective home countries. They no longer have the time to write free fictional articles, for them only to be moderated to buggery. Besides, it's far cheaper to fuck hot girls in Rich White Man Land than it is to go over to pick up sluts from Tondo. Goodbye Philippines.I'd agree on the moderation. Its not unusual for an informative post to suddenly appear, buried well down the list because it was invisible for a couple of days while being checked over.

Once in the list, sinners seem to be on the moderation list forever, even after mending their ways. I'm not aware of anyone returning to unmoderated after X months of good behaviour.

Re playing at home vs travelling: the cost differential is definitely closing. More so if all the airfares, hotels etc sunk costs are factored in. Also, it's now 20% more expensive to fly from my home town to MNL vs BKK.

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

Re playing at home vs travelling: the cost differential is definitely closing. More so if all the airfares, hotels etc sunk costs are factored in. Also, it's now 20% more expensive to fly from my home town to MNL vs BKK.Regarding airfare. I flight. Google'd this. One-way fares from MNL. LAX. Highest is about $1500 USD (August), and lowest is $450 USD (September).

WC.

[NapaSlapper]

Saturday night 29.7. 2023.

It was going to be a split barhop this night, first with western friends in the few western orientated bars of walking street and then on to meet korean business investors and hit the many korean orientated bars of walking street.

The reason of two seperate barhops in two different types of bars is because koreans do not like the look of the girls in the western bars and my western friends refuse to go to the korean bars because the girls there are cold to them and mostly won't sit for drinks with them as they only have eyes for the many asian guys.

Its monsoon season so neavy rain most days and nights, soon as it stops raining it starts again.

Western bars,

Geckos bar, where multiple years ago this was a very popular bar it now is very quiet on most nights for girl numbers, probably 7-8 girls in on Saturday, one drink and moved on as girls looked bored as well as being old.

Lollipop bar which is just next door to geckos bar so was the obvious next choice, very quiet,4 expat old guys in when we attended, none sitting with girls, girl numbers were low, a mixture of oldies, fatties, new t backs (thongs) in white for all the girls, in truth most did not have the body shape to carry off a t back but at least they were smiling and trying to get called over for a lady drink but no takers from our group due to very low quality fatties and oldies,1 drink and moved on.

Vikings bar, now this is a nice size bar, the owners and mummies make sure to make one welcome and comfortable, waitresses in white and black uniforms, girls in bikinis, 20 odd girls in tonight, some playing on their phones, some smiling and some not looking happy at all, friends invited the only 2 non fatties over for drinks, they are seasoned mongers and of course got to the barfine question on the 1st drink, girls wanted 4,000 peso short time 1 hour, friends declined,2 drinks and we were out of the place.

Korean bars next for me, friends called it a night and went on to have food in envy.

Q bar, this is a popular bar for asians only, nice welcome from the Korea manager, he had remembered my name and had lead me through to where my korean friend were waiting for me, they already had a table full of drinks and girls sitting with them,2 of the girls made room for me in the middle of them, they were known to me as had sat with them in a group of koreans many times before, looking around the bar it was quieter than normal for girl numbers, this is a nice bar and one of my go to places, couple of drinks and we moved on.

Avalon bar, again a korean oriented bar, no westerners and about 15 asian customers, girl numbers about 25-30,mostly on stage doing shows, soon as we walked in and were seated a couple of girls wanted to join us, few drinks later, some snacks for us and the girls we were on tomour last and favourite bar.

Xs bar, have said this multiple times before, this bar is by far the most popular bar for the asians, why, because it has great shows, nice decor, very cold air con and the girls are a cut above the rest in angeles, no, no stunners but the girls are mostly tall, slim, dressed elegant, smelling good and above all happy and smiling, hard to know exactly how many girls tonight, maybe 40-50 odd girls, spent a couple of hours here, many drinks for us and the girls, delivery pizza for us and the girls, koreans handing out money like its going out of fashion, all in all although expensive night here we enjoyed it, one thing that sticks out is how many girls are able to speak korean, maybe not fluently but know the greetings and many more words, also suprising how many of these girls quote korean food as their no1 food choice to me.

In summing up, western bars very quiet for both girl numbers and punters, some bars not even 1 customer and only 3 or 4 old fatties on stage, its hard to see how most of these bars are keeping the staff paid and the lights on, many owners and girls complaining of how quiet it is, as normal, no money coming in then the owners are reluctant to make changes or enploy better looking gjrls which obviously cost much more, yes one can get laid here but don't expect anything young or slim.

Korean bars are doing ok, yes less customers but thise that are in like to spend large and treat the girls to many drinks, food and tips, obviously not a place for old westerners to get any girl attention, yes if one is with a group of asians then the girls will sit and have fun but actually leaving with a westerner is a definate no no, why, as discussed recently by many members once the koreans see a girl barfjne with a westerner she is toast, they will ignore such girls and not spend any money on them, koreans like korean only girls, it is what it is, there us definately a devide in angeles punters, westerners to get laid have to accept the low quality girls in the western bars, try to barfine from the korean bars will have one left very disappointed in truth.

[Jarango]

Besides, it's far cheaper to fuck hot girls in Rich White Man Land than it is to go over to pick up sluts from Tondo. Goodbye Philippines.I am not so sure I have seen other posts here with wide variations in air fare. One has to be careful with scraper sites. I prefer to book with airlines so I know what I get. One big problem for me in doing the math is one hour turn around / transfer times with Kuwait Airlines.

As air fares have gone up, we have to look at longer stays to get back our air fare in extra bonks (if we can manage the bonk and the extra time).

60 days = airfare (1000) + hotel (1000) + food etc (1000) = 3000 or 50 $/ Euros per day.

If we go for 6000 PHP in hookers a week, that is 360,000 PHP = 6000 euros etc roughly, which seems a lot. But that is only about 100 $ a week in bonk which is not a lot. Plus one "saves" by not bonking before or after. If we regard Angeles as a bonkathon, that is see $500 a week in bonks, which is fine for a short duration.

I have been looking for places closer to Europe. Africa is the obvious choice but SE Asia is miles safer.

If we go for only 30 days, then no need for visa extension (3600 PHP saved or 2 bonks) and 1000 (or 60000 PHP or 30 + bonks).

A 30 day bonkaton would be 2000 base + 3000 in bonks - = 5000 or say 150 per bonk, which is not that different from Europe though the bonk might be better.

Those are the roughest of very rough calculations. We have a base (air fare + basics). Then we have the bonks, which could also be classified as basics.

I figure, unless one is getting a lot more from it in terms of golf, scuba diving, medical etc, it is just not worth it for the hassle.

Although there is no answer to this, I feel less Western folk will go there for short hauls.

Air fares are not going to get cheaper. Longer breaks means more time away from home which is an issue. There is definite opening for a sleaze pot nearer to Western Europe but it is hard to see that eventuating. Short trips might be worth it but too much wear and tear. It is a major issue but not one our politicians would get worked up over as they can fund their own needs.

[FuriousGeorge]

I've done this math many times. If you're only computing price per sexual encounter, AC is not worth it, once you factor in air fare, decent hotel, and barfines. You can kind of leave out food because you'd have to buy food at home anyway. So if you hate AC and find it to be a dump and boring, don't waste your time. I enjoy sitting around in my hotel and watching movies and shows and basketball and then having a daytime drink and wandering around the city, then partying, drinking, barfining, and occasional civilian pickup at night (and of course the bbfs). You have to see it as a vacation where you relax and get laid. If that's not your thing, stay away.


I am not so sure I have seen other posts here with wide variations in air fare. One has to be careful with scraper sites. I prefer to book with airlines so I know what I get. One big problem for me in doing the math is one hour turn around / transfer times with Kuwait Airlines.

As air fares have gone up, we have to look at longer stays to get back our air fare in extra bonks (if we can manage the bonk and the extra time).

60 days = airfare (1000) + hotel (1000) + food etc (1000) = 3000 or 50 $/ Euros per day.

If we go for 6000 PHP in hookers a week, that is 360,000 PHP = 6000 euros etc roughly, which seems a lot. But that is only about 100 $ a week in bonk which is not a lot. Plus one "saves" by not bonking before or after. If we regard Angeles as a bonkathon, that is see $500 a week in bonks, which is fine for a short duration.

I have been looking for places closer to Europe. Africa is the obvious choice but SE Asia is miles safer.

If we go for only 30 days, then no need for visa extension (3600 PHP saved or 2 bonks) and 1000 (or 60000 PHP or 30 + bonks).

A 30 day bonkaton would be 2000 base + 3000 in bonks - = 5000 or say 150 per bonk, which is not that different from Europe though the bonk might be better.

Those are the roughest of very rough calculations. We have a base (air fare + basics). Then we have the bonks, which could also be classified as basics.

I figure, unless one is getting a lot more from it in terms of golf, scuba diving, medical etc, it is just not worth it for the hassle.

Although there is no answer to this, I feel less Western folk will go there for short hauls.

Air fares are not going to get cheaper. Longer breaks means more time away from home which is an issue. There is definite opening for a sleaze pot nearer to Western Europe but it is hard to see that eventuating. Short trips might be worth it but too much wear and tear. It is a major issue but not one our politicians would get worked up over as they can fund their own needs.

[AggieDad1]

I am not so sure I have seen other posts here with wide variations in air fare. One has to be careful with scraper sites. I prefer to book with airlines so I know what I get. One big problem for me in doing the math is one hour turn around / transfer times with Kuwait Airlines.

As air fares have gone up, we have to look at longer stays to get back our air fare in extra bonks (if we can manage the bonk and the extra time).

60 days = airfare (1000) + hotel (1000) + food etc (1000) = 3000 or 50 $/ Euros per day.

If we go for 6000 PHP in hookers a week, that is 360,000 PHP = 6000 euros etc roughly, which seems a lot. But that is only about 100 $ a week in bonk which is not a lot. Plus one "saves" by not bonking before or after. If we regard Angeles as a bonkathon, that is see $500 a week in bonks, which is fine for a short duration.

I have been looking for places closer to Europe. Africa is the obvious choice but SE Asia is miles safer.

If we go for only 30 days, then no need for visa extension (3600 PHP saved or 2 bonks) and 1000 (or 60000 PHP or 30 + bonks).

A 30 day bonkaton would be 2000 base + 3000 in bonks - = 5000 or say 150 per bonk, which is not that different from Europe though the bonk might be better.

Those are the roughest of very rough calculations. We have a base (air fare + basics). Then we have the bonks, which could also be classified as basics.

I figure, unless one is getting a lot more from it in terms of golf, scuba diving, medical etc, it is just not worth it for the hassle.

Although there is no answer to this, I feel less Western folk will go there for short hauls.

Air fares are not going to get cheaper. Longer breaks means more time away from home which is an issue. There is definite opening for a sleaze pot nearer to Western Europe but it is hard to see that eventuating. Short trips might be worth it but too much wear and tear. It is a major issue but not one our politicians would get worked up over as they can fund their own needs.Anyone who loves fishing will tell you, if they are honest, that it would be cheaper to buy your fish at the market rather than catch the fish yourself. But where is the fun in that? I go to Asia because I enjoy the thrill of casting my line and see what I can catch. Yes, I could save money if I stayed home and fished locally but it is just not as fun. Go where you enjoy life. Fuck the money.

[Breadman]

I've done this math many times. If you're only computing price per sexual encounter, AC is not worth it, once you factor in air fare, decent hotel, and barfines. You can kind of leave out food because you'd have to buy food at home anyway. So if you hate AC and find it to be a dump and boring, don't waste your time. I enjoy sitting around in my hotel and watching movies and shows and basketball and then having a daytime drink and wandering around the city, then partying, drinking, barfining, and occasional civilian pickup at night (and of course the bbfs). You have to see it as a vacation where you relax and get laid. If that's not your thing, stay away.Sexual encounter doesn't include airfare or hotels, sexual encounter is the price to get the girl to have sex with you. Everyone has different travel costs, the Koreans might only pay $200 usd for a roundtrip flight. You might stay in a $80 per night hotel where another guy is paying $18. You can't just say 'AC is not worth it because I'm paying too much to get here'. So cutting out all transportation and accomodation costs aside just what is acceptable? AC has a wide range of prices. From 2300 peso's for a barfine and sex upwards of 5000 on Walking Street. What is 'not worth' paying $40 to $80 usd for a round of sex from a girl that you picked 'not worth it? There are retirees who refuse to move overseas and leave their friends / hometown, not my problem if they see paying $1,500 for a flight and $800 for hotels 'not worth it' so they can stay living where they want to live. I had friends who talked of having their own 'harem'. A group of girls they rotated in and out. Leaving only a spare day (if that) for a new girl. Now I have that here in Angeles and honestly the amount of work you have to do to keep all of them happy and all of the 'emergencies' under control is tiresome. But AC is anthing BUT not worth it. You just have to find a place where you can live and enjoy a normal life without having several 4 year olds peeping into your apartment and all of that jazz. I have a 40 foot private balcony that overlooks a quiet street and many times I've gotten BJ's sitting in my living room watch life go by 100 feet away. In this case the privacy is worth every penny to me.

[DoktorEn]

The difference is that there are no sweet young SEA spinners in my home country. 40+ yo Thais? Sure, tons of those. So honestly, it is not only a cost-per-fuck calculation for me; there's a qualitative difference that you cannot repeat. RE: Air fares. I was quite surprised that I managed to snag return tix (EU - PHL) in November for 850 EUR. Tickets were a lot more expensive last time I went in June (probably 1600 EUR), which surprises me, June being rainy season etc.

[Goferring]

The difference is that there are no sweet young SEA spinners in my home country. 40+ yo Thais? Sure, tons of those. So honestly, it is not only a cost-per-fuck calculation for me; there's a qualitative difference that you cannot repeat. RE: Air fares. I was quite surprised that I managed to snag return tix (EU - PHL) in November for 850 EUR. Tickets were a lot more expensive last time I went in June (probably 1600 EUR), which surprises me, June being rainy season etc.I've always said that I don't think that the PI is best at anything but the total package is hard to beat.

Thais are prettier, Pattaya has more selection, lots of English speaking options, backwater countries are cheaper etc etc. However, I don't know anywhere else that offers a 80% solution in all categories plus generous visa allowances and semi believable cover stories.

I'd agree that sometimes it's not just about the cost.

Enjoy. G.

[Expat American]

Sexual encounter doesn't include airfare or hotels, sexual encounter is the price to get the girl to have sex with you. Everyone has different travel costs, the Koreans might only pay $200 usd for a roundtrip flight. You might stay in a $80 per night hotel where another guy is paying $18. You can't just say 'AC is not worth it because I'm paying too much to get here'. So cutting out all transportation and accomodation costs aside just what is acceptable? AC has a wide range of prices. From 2300 peso's for a barfine and sex upwards of 5000 on Walking Street. What is 'not worth' paying $40 to $80 usd for a round of sex from a girl that you picked 'not worth it? There are retirees who refuse to move overseas and leave their friends / hometown, not my problem if they see paying $1,500 for a flight and $800 for hotels 'not worth it' so they can stay living where they want to live. I had friends who talked of having their own 'harem'. A group of girls they rotated in and out. Leaving only a spare day (if that) for a new girl. Now I have that here in Angeles and honestly the amount of work you have to do to keep all of them happy and all of the 'emergencies' under control is tiresome. But AC is anthing BUT not worth it. You just have to find a place where you can live and enjoy a normal life without having several 4 year olds peeping into your apartment and all of that jazz. I have a 40 foot private balcony that overlooks a quiet street and many times I've gotten BJ's sitting in my living room watch life go by 100 feet away. In this case the privacy is worth every penny to me.Its not just price per sexual encounter. The changes in AC over the years is that the bars are no longer fun places to hang out. No more naked girls and lesbian shows and sitting with you 30 min or more with each drink rubbing your dick. And frankly, other than bars what else is there in that entire city? Certainly not good food or beaches or anything else. My airfare from Singapore is only $200 RT. But even that plus hotel hardly seems worth it anymore. I used to enjoy the bar experience as much if not more than the sex itself. But now that's gone. The only remaining factor is the ubiquitous BBFS although at much inflated prices.

[Beavis]

Its not just price per sexual encounter. The changes in AC over the years is that the bars are no longer fun places to hang out. No more naked girls and lesbian shows and sitting with you 30 min or more with each drink rubbing your dick. And frankly, other than bars what else is there in that entire city? Certainly not good food or beaches or anything else. My airfare from Singapore is only $200 RT. But even that plus hotel hardly seems worth it anymore. I used to enjoy the bar experience as much if not more than the sex itself. But now that's gone. The only remaining factor is the ubiquitous BBFS although at much inflated prices.For various reasons I have had to spend about 3 months in Angeles City in the last year or so. I totally agree, other than the bars there isn't a damn thing in that town that I find attractive. Traffic on MacArthur is now comparable to Manila. Some of the worst roads, people constantly pulling out in front of you, kids will run right in front of your car while driving. You constantly have to remain alert and ready to hit your brakes. Impossible to find anywhere to park, the city is filthy with run down buildings, holes in the sidewalks (if you can find a sidewalk), trash everywhere. Koreans have almost completely taken over and the majority of them are A-holes. Plus the baklas, punks, and kids have become major thieves. Very easy to get robbed there now.

Other than the bars and the girls there is nothing appealing in AC. Plus the Porac bridge is currently closed so the trip between Subic and AC involves a detour with heavy traffic where there is major road construction going on, add 1 hour to the trip now. The new international airport is the only reason other than the bars that gives me a reason to go there.

[Jarango]

Having given this matter some thought, Southern Italy gets the vote as 1. I save on a long and tiresome flight. 2. I can trade off LBFMs for walking in the shadow of The Godfather. 3. the food and culture are to my liking. 4. some occasional bonks to kill an hour or two (or minute or two in my case) Anything north of Naples is out as, even though my nuts are not up to their previous standards, I don't want them falling off with frostbite, something that rarely happens in SE Asia.

I have glanced through a representative sample of main stream media giving advice on these matters. It seems they all just rob their copy from each other. Beware of credit card fraud, book online etc.

The advantage of sites like this, not only as regards LBFM pounding but more generally as well, is it gives far broader insights and opinions than main stream media ever can.

Kenya looked a goer but too many warnings about muggings and hijackings and, as regards the animals, you can't bonk them and who wants to see a stupid lion at afternoon dinner anyway when one can observe and bonk humans instead?


Anyone who loves fishing will tell you, if they are honest, that it would be cheaper to buy your fish at the market rather than catch the fish yourself. But where is the fun in that? I go to Asia because I enjoy the thrill of casting my line and see what I can catch. Yes, I could save money if I stayed home and fished locally but it is just not as fun. Go where you enjoy life. Fuck the money.

[Breadman]

Its not just price per sexual encounter. The changes in AC over the years is that the bars are no longer fun places to hang out. No more naked girls and lesbian shows and sitting with you 30 min or more with each drink rubbing your dick. And frankly, other than bars what else is there in that entire city? Certainly not good food or beaches or anything else. My airfare from Singapore is only $200 RT. But even that plus hotel hardly seems worth it anymore. I used to enjoy the bar experience as much if not more than the sex itself. But now that's gone. The only remaining factor is the ubiquitous BBFS although at much inflated prices.Well your in Singapore, you should have your own group of girls coming over on a regular basis. There has to be dating apps there with working girls. Having the girls coming over on the side brings in all of their friends and its too the point where I barely have time to go out here anymore. Yesterday I had two girls come over and they cooked up lunch and then later dinner and afterwards we had a very nice threesome all for 2000 pesos each. There are some good restaurants here, its just hard to find them at times. I will say one of the girls is an excellent cook and its like a 5 course meal when the two of them come over. But I do get threesomes offered to me so so much that I've gotten tired of it. Yeah tired of threesomes, didn't think I'd ever think that but after 3 in a row all with different girls I needed a break. So you chose to live in Singapore, its your job to make the best out of the talent pool there. Girls see a hotel room and they don't think to put in the best performance since you'll be gone. They see an apartment that's lived in and it says your here to stay then they see a constant flow of income and you can really get allot out of them. The bar scene brings them to the city, my apartment keeps them coming back for half the price.

If you look at AC as a stopover it will always be just that. A stopover. But there are jems hidden here if you take the time to look for them.

[WestCoast1]

From the archives. The good-old bar days on Fields.

[Sailor Jack]

It is Thursday afternoon and Sailor Jack is sitting at home re-reading Tristan Jones 'One Hand for Yourself, One Hand for the Ship' and minding his own business like always.

Sailor Jack has the following text exchange;.

332 pm KD10; (the two KD10 sexts below arrive without any comment).

336 pm SJ; you want to lick my balls?

336 pm KD10; otw.

357 pm KD10 arrives faster than GRAB. Maneuvers proceed briskly. Sailor Jack's tasteys are delighted. After about 15 minutes KD10 deepthroats Sailor Jack to the gates of Valhalla. KD10 is very proud of her skills and KD10 asks Sailor Jack 'How was it?

Sailor Jack mumbles something and just kind of shakes his head in a circle, SJ's eyes never focusing. KD10 leaves a few minutes later.

More texts arrive;.

435 pm IB8; Hi honey, you busy na.

435 pm IB8; I come you before my work (see sext*).

436 p SJ; cannot na, something just came up, maybe later.

530 pm; Sailor Jack leaves for a prayer meeting on Walking Street.

*most of Sailor Jack's crew has been trained to include a picture sext with all inquiries.

[Member #4794]

From the archives. The good-old bar days on Fields.I sometimes reminisce on Google maps you can view street view going back to 2015 on walking street. You can still see remnants of the karaoke road behind walking street and a few of my favorite bars on santos were still there. The bars near the Clarkton used to be my favorite strip of bars. Afterschool, Lost in asia, the Tequila Reef restaurant youtube page has some old clips fun to watch.

[Dg8787]

Value is the name of the game for me. There isn't price comparison per fuck for me.

What is the value of consistently getting non hard core firm bodied 18-23 year olds? Even up to 30+ yo?

What is the value of the friends and family plan program?

Pair of sisters is pretty common.

Full house. Pair of sisters and 3 cousins.

Full house. 3 sisters and a pair of cousins.

Where else can you do this with some ease?

[WestCoast1]

From the archives. The good-old bar days on Fields.The thought balloons. I forgot the thought balloons.

[Expat American]

Well your in Singapore, you should have your own group of girls coming over on a regular basis. There has to be dating apps there with working girls. Having the girls coming over on the side brings in all of their friends and its too the point where I barely have time to go out here anymore. Yesterday I had two girls come over and they cooked up lunch and then later dinner and afterwards we had a very nice threesome all for 2000 pesos each. There are some good restaurants here, its just hard to find them at times. I will say one of the girls is an excellent cook and its like a 5 course meal when the two of them come over. But I do get threesomes offered to me so so much that I've gotten tired of it. Yeah tired of threesomes, didn't think I'd ever think that but after 3 in a row all with different girls I needed a break. So you chose to live in Singapore, its your job to make the best out of the talent pool there. Girls see a hotel room and they don't think to put in the best performance since you'll be gone. They see an apartment that's lived in and it says your here to stay then they see a constant flow of income and you can really get allot out of them. The bar scene brings them to the city, my apartment keeps them coming back for half the price.

If you look at AC as a stopover it will always be just that. A stopover. But there are jems hidden here if you take the time to look for them.Its easy to get laid in Singapore. 100 USD (5000 Peso) will get you nice 90 min GFE with 2 shouts with your choice of hundreds of Thai girls, some Indo and some Viet. Pay a bit more and you get model quality viets. Or many FS massage places for 150 USD for a hour massage and fuck. Go up to 300-500 USD and you get white, latina or whatever flavor you want. And then theres the filipina domestic worker and waitress etc as well. So yeah, going to AC just for fucking is not the point. Thats why I was lamenting the bars because that's what we don't have here in Singapore. There are bars but drinks are super expensive and you don't get a lot for it. For me AC attraction was the fun for hours in bars and capped off with nice BBFS. Also I'm married and while my wife condones my playing around I don't do a lot of it in my own backyard to avoid any complications (especially the freebies and FWB types). And Singapore is a first world country with world class amenities, food and culture which to me is more important than endless sex. But Im not judging you at all. As long as you are having a good time more power to you!

[ShinyCrazy]

Its easy to get laid in Singapore. 100 USD (5000 Peso) will get you nice 90 min GFE with 2 shouts with your choice of hundreds of Thai girls, some Indo and some Viet.This sounds good. I had plans to make a first trip to Singapore prior to COVID, then reports were that COVID had killed the prime venues (Brix, Orchard Towers, Geylang). Sounds like it's still worth a trip. What are your favorite venues?

[NapaSlapper]

Value is the name of the game for me. There isn't price comparison per fuck for me.

What is the value of consistently getting non hard core firm bodied 18-23 year olds? Even up to 30+ yo?

What is the value of the friends and family plan program?

Pair of sisters is pretty common.

Full house. Pair of sisters and 3 cousins.

Full house. 3 sisters and a pair of cousins.

Where else can you do this with some ease?Obviously for you to not know the answer to how easy it is to score in other asian destinations you obviously have never visited any.

Just to help you out a bit try for starters.

Thailand, Bangkok, pattaya, chiang mai and most every other city in thailand.

Cambodia, phnom penh, sihanoukville.

Indonesia, Jakarta, surabaya, bali to name just a few.

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City, nha trang, dha nang, hanoi and many other areas.

Myanmar, yangon, mandalay, mong la and many more cities.

Laos, vientiane,

Angeles city is just a very tiny area with very few good bars, just one st in Bangkok or pattaya or many other places have more prostitutes than the whole of the phills put together, what's more the quality of the girls is far far higher at very similar prices and the cherry on the cake is that every other destination exept angeles city has a pay the girl after sex policy therefore much more likely hood of a much better experience and value for money than the pay all before at the bar and pray the girl performs or fucks at all of angeles city which many have reported.

Try some travel and you might just stop constantly banging the angeles drum for no justified reason, need any help or tips, I'm here to educate.

[NapaSlapper]

Its not just price per sexual encounter. The changes in AC over the years is that the bars are no longer fun places to hang out. No more naked girls and lesbian shows and sitting with you 30 min or more with each drink rubbing your dick. And frankly, other than bars what else is there in that entire city? Certainly not good food or beaches or anything else. My airfare from Singapore is only $200 RT. But even that plus hotel hardly seems worth it anymore. I used to enjoy the bar experience as much if not more than the sex itself. But now that's gone. The only remaining factor is the ubiquitous BBFS although at much inflated prices.I have to fully agree with your honest assessment as to what's happened to angeles city, going by the tiny number of western tourists visiting angeles many many others do not see the value or the worth of travelling here any more and have voted with their feet.

Last nights barhop 5,8,2023 saw mostly all of the western style bars to have no or very few punters, many bar owners telling me they are having to use their own savings to keep the lights on in the bar and the few staff paid.

Not sure what the answer is for angeles, it seems to have become an asian mongering city, cheap air fares for them and girls that definately prefer them over westerners.

[NapaSlapper]

I sometimes reminisce on Google maps you can view street view going back to 2015 on walking street. You can still see remnants of the karaoke road behind walking street and a few of my favorite bars on santos were still there. The bars near the Clarkton used to be my favorite strip of bars. Afterschool, Lost in asia, the Tequila Reef restaurant youtube page has some old clips fun to watch.Have to agree, add roadhouse bar that was in between lost in asia bar and after school bar and right there there was a big party to be had, even the bar of the clarkton hotel would be heaving with attractive, young, slim girls, many an afternoon spent here multiple moons ago, remember that in some of these bars if a punter bought a lady drink (120 peso) then the punter would get a free beer of his choice included in the price, that was back when bargirls would only receive 20 peso comission per lady drink which obviously made all the girl want to leave the bar on barfine unlike the girls of today, alas, that's all gone and never coming back, still the memories and the girls faces from back in the day will live on in my memory for a life time.

[GreenBud]

Obviously for you to not know the answer to how easy it is to score in other asian destinations you obviously have never visited any.


sihanoukville.Really? Sihanoukville? Where?


Laos, vientiane,Wow! Vientiane is easy?


need any help or tips, I'm here to educate.Bali and Nha Trang are a pain.

Please educate us. Some info without hyperboles would be nice.

[JordCo]

Obviously for you to not know the answer to how easy it is to score in other asian destinations you obviously have never visited any.

Just to help you out a bit try for starters.

Thailand, Bangkok, pattaya, chiang mai and most every other city in thailand.

Cambodia, phnom penh, sihanoukville.

Indonesia, Jakarta, surabaya, bali to name just a few.

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City, nha trang, dha nang, hanoi and many other areas.

Myanmar, yangon, mandalay, mong la and many more cities.

Laos, vientiane,

Angeles city is just a very tiny area with very few good bars, just one st in Bangkok or pattaya or many other places have more prostitutes than the whole of the phills put together, what's more the quality of the girls is far far higher at very similar prices and the cherry on the cake is that every other destination exept angeles city has a pay the girl after sex policy therefore much more likely hood of a much better experience and value for money than the pay all before at the bar and pray the girl performs or fucks at all of angeles city which many have reported.

Try some travel and you might just stop constantly banging the angeles drum for no justified reason, need any help or tips, I'm here to educate.Thailand. Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket yes. Chiang Mai and others. Not so much, if you're young and good looking yes.

Sihanoukville. Was changed and destroyed by the Chinese. Agree on other parts of Cambodia, worth a visit.

Jakarta. Yes. Bali is a shit mongering destination although worth a visit should you take an Indonesian there for a holiday.

Never tried vietnam. I only hear bad things from a mongering perspective although the girls are meant to be really hot, some on the level of Korean girls if you can tap in to the non pro market.

Never tried Myanmar but I've known one person who's been to mong la and it is the Chinese 'Wild West' where apparently endangered animals and underage girls are for sale. Being run by the Chinese mafia it's obviously heavy on casinos too. If his old information (pre covid & pre military coup) is still correct it's difficult to even access the area while already in Myanmar and he went through Thailand. Probably a place worth avoiding in all honesty. It is borderline danger tourism.

Loas. Heard it's crap and difficult. Many loa working girls go to Thailand.

All this is in the context of short term mongering only. If one wanted to spend a lot of time in these places I'm sure it's a different story.

[NapaSlapper]

Really? Sihanoukville? Where?

Wow! Vientiane is easy?

Bali and Nha Trang are a pain.

Please educate us. Some info without hyperboles would be nice.Sihanoukville, any of the casinos or bars, clubs have multiple freelancers, the area by the docks, many girls available or did you think the thousands of overseas chinese there were going without pussy.

Nha trang, ever tried the sailing club on beach road, multiple very attractive pros to be found just here, also multiple freelancers on beach road at sunset to name a few places.

Bali, ever been to kuta, if you can't find multiple street freelancers or multiple freelancers in many bars then taking off your blindfold might be advisable.

Prostitution is available in most all asian countries as well as most countries the world over.

Angeles does not have anything that cannot be found any where else, in fact it is fairly low in the list of destinations for available young, slim, good looking girls as has has been said by multiple members here and why the angeles streets are empty of westerner mongers while other asian destinations are heaving.

Therefore Consider your self to have been educated greenbud.

[Goferring]

Really? Sihanoukville? Where?

Bali... a pain.

Please educate us. Some info without hyperboles would be nice.Running to Snooky because AC has been taken over by Asians: now there's a plan!!

Bali is full of free spirited, fun girls keen to provide outstanding and unrushed service at bargain prices. Not!! One could join the production line hookers banging a dozen guys a day on cum soaked mattresses in Sanur X houses as backup plan.

The reality is that those with game can latch onto the girl groups (Indo or foreign) for some holiday fun or those without can pay for the mega hot and mega entitled Instagram set.

Enjoy. G.

[NapaSlapper]

Running to Snooky because AC has been taken over by Asians: now there's a plan!!

Bali is full of free spirited, fun girls keen to provide outstanding and unrushed service at bargain prices. Not!! One could join the production line hookers banging a dozen guys a day on cum soaked mattresses in Sanur X houses as backup plan.

The reality is that those with game can latch onto the girl groups (Indo or foreign) for some holiday fun or those without can pay for the mega hot and mega entitled Instagram set.

Enjoy. G.Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.

Therefore Running off to snooky (sihanoukville) might then be a mighty good idea.

[GreenBud]

Sihanoukville, any of the casinos or bars, clubs have multiple freelancers,Which casinos or bars / clubs? Only been to couple of casinos. Didn't see anything. The old Utopia and Dolphin bar / clubs are no more. They were the best.

Again, you forgot to mention the important information. The major avenue for the Chinese are the KTVs.


the area by the docks,The area that was a brothel area 20 years ago, that had 1 club and several shacks, that takes 30 minutes to get to. I think someone posted about that area a few years ago. Is it still there? That's good and easy? Ridiculous.


Nha trang, ever tried the sailing club on beach road, multiple very attractive pros to be found just here,Yes. Went there about 10 years ago, only once. I read about scene on the internet; didn't see that scene. Maybe I was there too early, maybe not. YOU need to be more diligent reading about things on the internet. Some are outdated and / or incorrect.


also multiple freelancers on beach road at sunset to name a few places.Really? I do admit I haven't been there in about 10 years. I'm surprise the authorities would allow that stuff along the main Beach Road, where families are gathered. I've read the Russians overran that place (before the war). I might go there this coming December.


Bali, ever been to kuta, if you can't find multiple street freelancers or multiple freelancers in many bars then taking off your blindfold might be advisable.I always stay at Kuta.

Many bars? Really? What is the name of the other bar? I only saw 1 large bar with multiple floors that had some of that action. The glory days of pre-Bali bombing are over. That was the best; the 2 bombing targets were the best (Padys and Sari Club were amazing).

Saw only a few street freelancers. Where do they hang out at? LOL! I know, no real answer.


Angeles does not have anything that cannot be found any where else,Your answers lack complete understanding. The original question you reply to was where else is it this easy as Angeles.

Philippines has go-go bars, where you go, point and choose.

Thailand has them (IMO, the best, overall). Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Bali does not have them. It takes more effort in Vietnam, Laos, and Bali. Definitely not as "easy" as Angeles.

[Expat American]

This sounds good. I had plans to make a first trip to Singapore prior to COVID, then reports were that COVID had killed the prime venues (Brix, Orchard Towers, Geylang). Sounds like it's still worth a trip. What are your favorite venues?Geylang is back and active. Ipanema has opened in a new location. But a large amount of the girls are available online. Also many MPs with extras scattered all over the city. Or you can try your luck in the aptly named Lucky Plaza on Sunday with the Filipina maids.

[WestCoast1]

Today, NS: "Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.".

I made an AC visit mid-late last year, and another last month (just under 2 weeks duration). I will be providing several reports soon regarding the bars, girl quality, and prices. While I sometimes disagree with NS, my recent visit at times will concur with his views and reflect that in an upcoming report. Other of my reports will will disagree with his views. When I visited last year (first visit after covid), my general impression was that AC had deteriorated: Barfine prices had nearly doubled to 5 k, runners were more prevalent (as reported here), and the number of Korean bars had jumped to about half. OTOH at the time I thought most bars had slightly better looking girls than prior to covid. I thought at that time that NS was over the top in his complaints of girlie looks.

That was then, and things have changed since last year. Reports coming when Westy's scrawny fingers have the time to type.

[Goferring]

Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.

Therefore Running off to snooky (sihanoukville) might then be a mighty good idea.Why, when we have fine local commentators like yourself giving us the most recent updates?

So far you have established:

1/. AC bargirls' attitude suck with early runners, clock watchers and work to rule service normal.

2/. The hottest girls prefer free spending and easy to please Koreans.

3/. AC is a shit hole.

4/. Prices are going up.

5/. A couple more stunning revelations that I've probably missed.

Let us know when you have some more earth shattering developments as all of these have been ongoing for at least 10 or 15 years so really no new news here.

The one thing omitted, however, is that despite these, many still go for their own reasons and have a great time.

I'd encourage anyone, especially newbies, to read your reports, but realise that there is always the one guy who is constantly complaining about his surrounding and doubting that others can actually enjoy themselves. Then read the reports of guys who went and had bad, good and exceptional nights. All are possible now in AC.

Enjoy. G.

[Seba0703]

Hi guys I'm going to post what I wrote in a number of reports on another site in one big blog. Read and weep!! Sorry I've grouped three places together. I am lazy.

Finally started my Phillipines holiday, day one being arriving at 7 pm.

1) at airport the airport taxi was 2000 php to makati. Politely told them I was paying Aussie rates in manila. Walked to where I could see the yellow cabs, cost 480. There's no real taxi line, really weird. Just walk to the yellow taxis.

2) makati palace hotel. It's okaaaaay. Terrible water pressure though, so no chance of some shower play with girls. Won't stay again. There's a restaurant down stairs in the hotel, it's very good for lunch.

3) pre arranged PL was waiting for me when I arrived. Sexymay22.5000 including video. She was very sweet and great ass, and I would see again. She's just cool.

4) Lips, some lovely girls there. I picked two who were the funnest in getting my attention. But there were probably 4 hotter girls. Just under 18 k to take the two out. Went to blue parrot (no one there but two cute girls) then to hotel. They were fun. BBBJ was just okay, the sex with each was really good though, they are best friends in the bar. I'the say they both would have stayed if I wanted. I'll concentrate on hotter girls later, I wanted fun tonight.

5) 30 minutes after they left I realised the "no doze" caffeine pill I took was working and fuck it, I'm in Manila. Baby. So I walked down to Burgos, tried a bunch of bars at 2 am. There bars were full of 6/10's. I didn't get to Plan be unfortuntaly. I was a bit too tired awake to chat and fuck. I just wanted a long slow handjob to sleep. Picked up 2 massage girls after a Spanish Inquisition about their birth genders. There IDs, and later their vaginas, checked out. But sheesh there was one lady boy just before who almost hit me. The soft round face ones are harder to tell. Anyway they reneged a little on the video (though not entirely). The very hot body one had me grabbing and sucking while the less hot one put in a good honest days labour with her hands. A good combo, 6000 combined.

6) I stuffed up another PL visit in the middle but stumbled across makati massage (+63 916 765 6722 with permission to share). "Isa" is 39,6/10 everything, maybe boobs and ass 7/10, but really great service if you like a loooooong slow unrushed, fun handjob. And who doesn't sometimes? Highly recommend. 2500.

Off to Subic bay now.

My Few das in subic bay has ended, so I will give a scrambled update of the next few days I had, in dot points and observations;.

1) Cheap charlies is great fun even if the girls don't take out. Well I actually got one girl to stay the night. On the promise I'd give her 30 k if I tried anything! This was because this girl and I genuinely like each other and want to spend more time. Anyway, great girls and if you are on holiday, this is more of a holiday bar. Drinks 250, girls get 100.

2) Voodoo. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Crappy little bar. Why 300 peso a lady drink then? Because the girls are more "hands on". Maybe one cute girl there. Adult fun bar.

3) Bottoms up. The great girls from last September are gone. While the new ones arent as pretty, they seem cool. There's a young spinner there that is confident beyond her years, and she deserves some business.

4) Showgirls. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Girls are okay, not great but speak well. The DJ looks cute.

5) HotZone. The only bar with a "show" and the girls seem fun. Drinks 300, girl gets 100. Couple of cute girls here but nothing amazing.

6) Green room. Relaxed sports bar, the girls surround you at first then go back to their side of the bar. Its kinda funny. Drinks are 185 (they do not sell doubles) and girls get 75. Bar fine 3900 I think. Emmy or "Barbey" as she is known, as I said before, is a delight. I kinda have a "can only fuck a girl once" on holiday rule with my wife. So I actually barfined Emmy twice to just sleep over and not fuck. Why? Hangout with her and you'll understand. So open minded, non judgemental, positive, fun and ofcourse sexy. Oh she assures me there are a few hot girls there.

7) Mugshots. Friendly staff, but not hot. Drinks single or double. Double is 300, girl gets 100. Seems a little overpiced compared to green room.

8 Wet Spot -same price as greenroom (can walk straight through from greenroom. Stage for the girls, some are a bit cute, one or two may be hot. They were playing "Tweeter and the monkey man" by travelling wilburies. How friggan awesome was that. I had just requested it another bar to disapproving looks.

9) Lux - 240 for drink, girl gets 100. I think barfine was 3000. This is a "hands on" bar again, and probably the nicest bar in Barretto. Girls are close to being hot, buuuut too skinny for me. But they seem nice.

10) Adams. Girls are very social and friendly and a few sports to play in the bar. I saw an old guy grabbing boobs and p*ssy and a waitress hand up his loose shorts for a while. Good on them and good on him. A good bar, simple.

11) Whisky girl. Has a stage and pool table and the girls, while not super hot, there are some smaller ones and some older ones still look good. They were fun to talk to.

12) Alaska. Had better girls than most places. I bar fined one, and she was great. Bit of baby damage, but just a great girl with enough other "assets" and "skills" to make it well worth it. I'm going to guess the bar fine was 4000.

13) Queen Vic. I went once but was no band due to typhoon. Shame I was looking forward to it.

14) Thumbstar. Competing with Lux for best decore / furniture. The girls seem nice, I think there were two cute ones on another table but couldn't quite see. I'm guessing the food is good here too.

15) Rosies. I was about to head over from adams sports bar (accross the road, upstairs) but instead I watched it slowly get flooded. And the lights turn off one by one. So I didn't get to go. I did get to walk back to Greenroom in the middle of the street jumping over the literal waves of water from the cars. A foot of water on the side of the road. The rain stopped, I can't imagine what the flood would have been had it not. Oh and someone stepped on a big catfish. In the friggan road!!

16) Bar Celona looks great. From Cheap charlies. But I was happy enough at CCs so didn't go over.

17) Pinalove. Met an amazing young girl (well 26). Simply perfect body and dynamite in bed. She's a strange one in that she has multiple (decent size) businesses and is a nurse, going to spain soon. But still does freelance for 3500. I guess to also meet foreigner (only interested in under 45). Anyway, saw her twice and what a great time.

18) Pinalove or Tinder. Can't recall as can't find details. But got bait and switched. Not a big deal, but guys just ask them to take a photo that you can trust before meeting. If your lazy, you get what you get.

19) Jeffu Japanese and Jewel are two pretty good restaurants. Central Park tower is still really solid choice and the girls really love it. But they have no food in the mini bar. Weird.

Overall, for me 3 nights, which I extended to 4 nights was fine. No there are not a lot (read "any") of day time options for s*x, but that improves after a day or two with girls you meet or can be addressed through pre-arrival Pinalove or tinder girls. Anyway I liked it enough, and that was in a super typhoon. About an hour to get to AC. It was really fast.

Arrived in AC (central park tower) at about 3 pm and had a girl from Pinal Love (Also on tinder) called Allondra22. She looks good in her photos, she looked. Exactly the same in real person. Cut to the chase, she is lovely. She was absolutely aweseome to have fun with in bed. BBBJ was really great, he boobs are fantastic, her big ass felt great, and she really enjoyed f*cking and had some great skills. I'll definitely see her before she goes. I paid 5000, but you can get her for something with a 3 in front I think, and definitely for 4000. Do yourself a favour and see this girl if you like active participation.

Later went bar hopping;.

1) Lollipop. A few really cute girls in Lollipop, it was too early to bar fine, but I really wanted to with this one girl. She was perfect. The bar is fun.

2) Lucifer. Drinks seemed cheap there and a couple cute girls. One of the nicer bars.

3) Insomnia. Seemed a bit like windmill in Pattaya. Some girls were getting very involved with some older gentlemen and having a great time. I really liked this bar, in fact I'll start there tonight. Absolutely no pressure to buy a drink, their motto seems to be we are fun, why wouldn't you want to stay.

4) Aces. Mamasan remembered me from one night last September. UNfortuntely the girl I came to see, Rose, was away for a week. Damn. But really lovely staff, I bought a girl a drink. Well I bought her ass a drink. It deserved two. Theres a 40 year old (spotlight) girl there who made it repeatedly very clear she want to give me a blow job haha.

5) Las Vegas. A few girls would stop staring at me, and the only one I liked never looked at me once. Don't you hate that.

6) Vikings. Great bar as you all know. Came close to bar fining a few girls. I will go back.

7) Dollhouse. Nothing to see here, really weirdly terrible.

8 Baccara. I think a few girls looked nice but not quite what I wanted.

9) Sensations. Has some good energy and nice people. Bought a girl a drink, thought about bar fining, but couldn't see enough of her body to be confident.

10) XS. Seriously? This place is unbelievable and 5 steps above the others for entertainment. I know that may not be a priority for all, but it was genuinely entertaining. They have 300+ girls doing differnt shows. The glow / lazer show is simply excellent. The pole dancing was fantastic. I usually hate this sort of thing. But it was great. I do not understand the economics. Most of the dancing girls just dance, they don't bar fine. So how does my few drinks and bar fine pay for all those entertainment girls earning 1000 peso a night (I was told)? I bar fined Janey. We went to mega dance at 12 and had a great time. She danced crazy with every girl nearby, and she was just great. IN the morning she was a little funny, and we actually didn't f*ck. Which was kinda weird as we got on so well, but I guess we just had such a great time it wasnt a priority when we got back and in the morning I could have but thought ehh I'll save it for another girl. Anyway 5000 bar fine and she was really great. Don't get me wrong. We did fool around a bit.

11) Next daytime. Cute girl at 123 bar. But on period. Damn. Went to Q bar. It was okay the night before, a couple girls barfinable in quality. I picked the girl in white dress and the only one that didn't stare at me. (I'm young looking, in shape and white. So I get a lot of stares). She was about to get food so I just barfined her (4000) before talking to her. We go to Tuquila Reef (is that it? She ordered a lot and ate very little. 700 pesos for nothing. Only said a few word to me during lunch, on my asking. Anyway, I know you should never bar fine a girl not showing interest. But I wanted to test the theory and she has tha best side boob going on (not massive but great), and I had to know more. Back in room she takes shower. I sit on bed and pull her in. She kisses. Hmmm. Interesting for someone so stand offish. I get the towell off. Ding ding ding, jesus christ. What a perfect body. PERFECT. She was just realllly shy, but certainy got into as we went. Not crazy style, but I could tell she loved it and some of the positions. All up it was all worth it. Jeeze, that body. Here name is Kate.

I can't recall where I go to in my last report, but I'll group a few days together from what I remember. Angeles City;.

Party One Bar - 1500 peso for short time. Ofcourse this is the smallest bar in the phillipines, it is quite hillarious. Especially when there are 4 girls in there. I took out Crezzel (or something like that), party to test if a 1500 peso girl is really any worse than a 4000 girl (and yes I know the 4000 girl is 1500 for locals on her day off). Anyway, Crezzel is missing a couple of side teeth (which I weird find cute), but otherwise she was objectively beautiful. BBBJ was great, really great. Her body was really good. Sex was fun and intimate. So I highly recommend her. Another chubby girl in the bar looked very cute too if you like that.

Massage girl. JemalynBondoc - Pinalove. All I can say is this girl has had some terrible luck. I won't tell you how much I gave her to help her out, as I'm sure some people will get annoyed with me for being a human. But she has lovely hands and is very sweet, so do give her some work if you can.

69 Rock bar. Rooftop bar. There was no sign on the ground level but I found the elevator (to the left of the pharmacy). Oddly designed space with the bar area in the middle taking up 80% of the rooms space. A desgin flaw I'm sure. BUT the girls are lovely / down right friggan hot, the pizza is pretty good (they actually cook the bottom). And it plays rock music. Only let down was the guy choosing latin rnb. When I came to listen to rock music. But he was spending alot of money so I get it. But still. Its a rock bar, come on. Stick to the theme.

Insomnia. I really like this bar as it has everything. Good entertainment from the girls, food, great layout, girls are fun and. Hands on. No other bar I saw has this combination. Sure XS has better entertainment, but it doesn't have a fun atmosphere. Anyway I barfined Rea (dark skin and best ass in angeles). She was lovely. Actually Insomnia generally has the best ass ratio in angeles if that's your thing.

I have a girl visiting from Subic in a minute, so will be a quiet night. BUt tomorrow night I'll bar hop a little and try to get to MDC disco. If anyone has any bars they want me to check before I leave on Friday just ask me, I'm happy to.

Central Park Tower is still pretty good combo of everything. Room, late night pool, food, access to walking street, very girl friendly.

Update to my AC adventure. My subic bay girl stayed two days instead on one, which killed my further barhopping plans. It was nice for her to go from saying she'd never barfine to saying fuck me harder. Haha. Though the next day she turned back into conservative girl.

Mega Dance Centre. Had two nice nights here, though much busier on the Sunday than the Wednesday. Both times had a girl already so couldn't do much. But there are certainly nice girls doing laps, so grab a table and wait if you want to be a lazy hunter. Personally I perfer to see the girls in their preferred clothes to get an idea of their personaility, rather than seeing them in a bikini etc, though ofcourse the latter is better for ensuring no suprises later. Side note. Ofcourse generally if a girl is covering a part of her body and showing another part you should be pessimistic about the bit being covered. Girls are stupid. But then you miss out on the absolute delight of later finding out the covered bit is great too. One of lifes greatest joys is finding some amazing boobs, butt or tummy previously being hidden. If you have limited time though. Go to the bar for bikini.

Anyway, I had a Pina Love girl come over for massage and video as she was on period so sex was out. She was 2 hours late. So when she arrived I dropped the price from 3 k to 2 k. (I know 3 k is high but wanted video). She agreed with me that I wasn't nice, but I was fair. The girl was Jowelaine012. She was okay. There was something sexy about her.

When my subic girl was here and was sleeping in. Verrrry late. I decided to go meet another girl from Pina Love. Phiaaa2023. This girl is very slim, tattoos, okay butt and really great boobs. Be cup but given she was so skinny, they seemed big. They were perfect shape and firmness. Anyway she was so light that standup / pickup s*x was easy and she has a beautiful face. Anyway I recommend her if you like small girls. I think I paid 4 k.

That was about it, only other observations were;.

1) As already stated by others, filipinas fall in love verrrry quickly. Most of the girls I saw wanted long time and would have stayed for days if I let them.

2) They are addicted to their phones. And I mean addicted. I get it, there's not much more to do in AC, but you have to try to pry them away.

3) Trikes. The locals don't ask for price they just always give 100 at the end, fairly regardless of the trip length. If you ask they then know you are tourist and will ask for 150. So either tell them 100 period or say nothing and just give them 100 at the end.

4) The girls get drunk fast if not drinking their staple from the bar. 10 beers at the bar no problem. 2 cocktails at the club and drunk.

Just an update. My last night in phillipines was also in Manila.

1) New Coast Hotel. Really lovely hotel and great location if you want to go LA, Z6. The dumpling place across the road is so cheap and so so good! Very girl friendly hotel.

2) I got a Pina Love girl for a couple hours when I first arrived (after 3. 5 HR drive from Angeles due to the floods). Sorry I lost her name when deleted the account. She was funny, she had a big tummy that made her look pregnant, but it was fine. And had really big and nice breasts, cute butt and pretty face. So I was happy. It was 5 k and for those boobs I was happy. I'm sure I could have got her for more like 3. 5 k if I wanted to haggle but I was in a rush.

3) Went to LA cafe to see a girl I met the year before, Jessa. Such a lovely girl and legs and ass are out of this world. I was going to get her to pick another girl for me but I was happy to just be with her as I'd already planned to spend the next day with her (9 pm flight home). Anyway observations;.

(I) She cost 7 k normally. She was happy to see me for free but I want to help her so I insisted on paying. And to keep the line between customer and boyfriend clear. Her friend is also 7 k so that seems the norm for 7/10 girls. Aparrantly some Japanese guys pay 10 k short time, no problem. Hence why the girls swarm around them. I'm sure a lot of girls would take 5 k easily.

(ii) Need to be careful with waitresses as drinks are expensive. I bought quite a few but I really like a couple of the waitresses and it was my last night. One waitress remembered what I ordered to eat from 11 months earlier on my single night there. Not bad. But you do need to be careful.

(iii) The girls. I've never seen so many 6. 5/10 girls in the one place, and I mean this as a good thing. Yes there are some 4 and 5's, but sheesh on a Friday night at least 30 6. 5's with a few 7's. Later in the night, say midnight, better looking girls come in, I'm sure a saw a few 8's. There is one girl who walks around like she is a snobby queen. She looked at my disapprovingly, as though who was I to choose someone that wasn't her when it was clear we had some mutual interest. Maybe she remembered me looking at her last time I was there (last Sept). I remember her atleast.

(iv) Some girls sleep upstairs, its 150 pesos per day. Just an FYI.

(v) Dusk till Dawn. A couple waitresses are cute, but more importantly their pizza is really good. Super thin and crispy.

(vi) The 3 min walk from New Coast to Robinsons Mall (a nice mall inside) has lots of girls offering massage, and some look pretty cute.

[Jarango]

Hookers are not different from Coca Cola, which boasts its product is the same world wide and that a kid in a Colombian ghetto can enjoy the same experience a US President can. When I first visited the Philippines almost 40 years ago, I was struck by the ubiquity of Coca Cola and ads for it.

Today, I am struck by the disparity between Filipiina hooker prices in Europe and the Philippines for what is a differently packaged experience.

I am now researching EU flea pits along the Northern Mediterranean coast. Some of them are right war zones.

I feel it is better for me as I am an Arab dog.

Q: Why are Arab dogs the fastest in the world?

A: Because the trees are so far apart.

Angeles is what it is. Knocking it Mike Tyson style is like saying resort A is better than resort be. They are just different and may suit different people. Try buying a Coca Cola in the Champs-Élysées to see what I mean.

Prostitution, red light districts, are generally in sleazy area and when. Like parts of Singapore, Patpong etc, they take out the sleeze, the prices go north and they often become family friendly, which is fine if that is what you want. Family friendly means more women which means more shopping, which is good for shop keepers. If you prefer down and dirty and not even the expense of condoms, Angeles is still for you.

[NapaSlapper]

Today, NS: "Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.".

I made an AC visit mid-late last year, and another last month (just under 2 weeks duration). I will be providing several reports soon regarding the bars, girl quality, and prices. While I sometimes disagree with NS, my recent visit at times will concur with his views and reflect that in an upcoming report. Other of my reports will will disagree with his views. When I visited last year (first visit after covid), my general impression was that AC had deteriorated: Barfine prices had nearly doubled to 5 k, runners were more prevalent (as reported here), and the number of Korean bars had jumped to about half. OTOH at the time I thought most bars had slightly better looking girls than prior to covid. I thought at that time that NS was over the top in his complaints of girlie looks.

That was then, and things have changed since last year. Reports coming when Westy's scrawny fingers have the time to type.Westy, great to hear you have made a very recent visit and agree with some of what I have to say and write here.

Everyone sees something different depending on their own views, I write my views and experiences, that's it, I'm no expert.

Looking forward greatly to hear your views and experiences so get those fingers clicking on the key board soon.

[FuriousGeorge]

Agreed. I effing love AC. I think about it most days. Looking forward to my return soon. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it is for me. Give it a shot and judge for yoruself.



I'd encourage anyone, especially newbies, to read your reports, but realise that there is always the one guy who is constantly complaining about his surrounding and doubting that others can actually enjoy themselves. Then read the reports of guys who went and had bad, good and exceptional nights. All are possible now in AC.

Enjoy. G.

[TjBrazil]

Hi guys I'm going to post what I wrote in a number of reports on another site in one big blog. Read and weep!! Sorry I've grouped three places together. I am lazy.

Finally started my Phillipines holiday, day one being arriving at 7 pm.

1) at airport the airport taxi was 2000 php to makati. Politely told them I was paying Aussie rates in manila. Walked to where I could see the yellow cabs, cost 480. There's no real taxi line, really weird. Just walk to the yellow taxis.

2) makati palace hotel. It's okaaaaay. Terrible water pressure though, so no chance of some shower play with girls. Won't stay again. There's a restaurant down stairs in the hotel, it's very good for lunch.

3) pre arranged PL was waiting for me when I arrived. Sexymay22.5000 including video. She was very sweet and great ass, and I would see again. She's just cool.

4) Lips, some lovely girls there. I picked two who were the funnest in getting my attention. But there were probably 4 hotter girls. Just under 18 k to take the two out. Went to blue parrot (no one there but two cute girls) then to hotel. They were fun. BBBJ was just okay, the sex with each was really good though, they are best friends in the bar. I'the say they both would have stayed if I wanted. I'll concentrate on hotter girls later, I wanted fun tonight.

5) 30 minutes after they left I realised the "no doze" caffeine pill I took was working and fuck it, I'm in Manila. Baby. So I walked down to Burgos, tried a bunch of bars at 2 am. There bars were full of 6/10's. I didn't get to Plan be unfortuntaly. I was a bit too tired awake to chat and fuck. I just wanted a long slow handjob to sleep. Picked up 2 massage girls after a Spanish Inquisition about their birth genders. There IDs, and later their vaginas, checked out. But sheesh there was one lady boy just before who almost hit me. The soft round face ones are harder to tell. Anyway they reneged a little on the video (though not entirely). The very hot body one had me grabbing and sucking while the less hot one put in a good honest days labour with her hands. A good combo, 6000 combined.

6) I stuffed up another PL visit in the middle but stumbled across makati massage (with permission to share). "Isa" is 39,6/10 everything, maybe boobs and ass 7/10, but really great service if you like a loooooong slow unrushed, fun handjob. And who doesn't sometimes? Highly recommend. 2500.

Off to Subic bay now.

My Few das in subic bay has ended, so I will give a scrambled update of the next few days I had, in dot points and observations;.

1) Cheap charlies is great fun even if the girls don't take out. Well I actually got one girl to stay the night. On the promise I'd give her 30 k if I tried anything! This was because this girl and I genuinely like each other and want to spend more time. Anyway, great girls and if you are on holiday, this is more of a holiday bar. Drinks 250, girls get 100.

2) Voodoo. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Crappy little bar. Why 300 peso a lady drink then? Because the girls are more "hands on". Maybe one cute girl there. Adult fun bar.

3) Bottoms up. The great girls from last September are gone. While the new ones arent as pretty, they seem cool. There's a young spinner there that is confident beyond her years, and she deserves some business.

4) Showgirls. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Girls are okay, not great but speak well. The DJ looks cute.

5) HotZone. The only bar with a "show" and the girls seem fun. Drinks 300, girl gets 100. Couple of cute girls here but nothing amazing.

6) Green room. Relaxed sports bar, the girls surround you at first then go back to their side of the bar. Its kinda funny. Drinks are 185 (they do not sell doubles) and girls get 75. Bar fine 3900 I think. Emmy or "Barbey" as she is known, as I said before, is a delight. I kinda have a "can only fuck a girl once" on holiday rule with my wife. So I actually barfined Emmy twice to just sleep over and not fuck. Why? Hangout with her and you'll understand. So open minded, non judgemental, positive, fun and ofcourse sexy. Oh she assures me there are a few hot girls there.

7) Mugshots. Friendly staff, but not hot. Drinks single or double. Double is 300, girl gets 100. Seems a little overpiced compared to green room.

8 Wet Spot -same price as greenroom (can walk straight through from greenroom. Stage for the girls, some are a bit cute, one or two may be hot. They were playing "Tweeter and the monkey man" by travelling wilburies. How friggan awesome was that. I had just requested it another bar to disapproving looks.

9) Lux - 240 for drink, girl gets 100. I think barfine was 3000. This is a "hands on" bar again, and probably the nicest bar in Barretto. Girls are close to being hot, buuuut too skinny for me. But they seem nice.

10) Adams. Girls are very social and friendly and a few sports to play in the bar. I saw an old guy grabbing boobs and p*ssy and a waitress hand up his loose shorts for a while. Good on them and good on him. A good bar, simple.

11) Whisky girl. Has a stage and pool table and the girls, while not super hot, there are some smaller ones and some older ones still look good. They were fun to talk to.

12) Alaska. Had better girls than most places. I bar fined one, and she was great. Bit of baby damage, but just a great girl with enough other "assets" and "skills" to make it well worth it. I'm going to guess the bar fine was 4000.

13) Queen Vic. I went once but was no band due to typhoon. Shame I was looking forward to it.

14) Thumbstar. Competing with Lux for best decore / furniture. The girls seem nice, I think there were two cute ones on another table but couldn't quite see. I'm guessing the food is good here too.

15) Rosies. I was about to head over from adams sports bar (accross the road, upstairs) but instead I watched it slowly get flooded. And the lights turn off one by one. So I didn't get to go. I did get to walk back to Greenroom in the middle of the street jumping over the literal waves of water from the cars. A foot of water on the side of the road. The rain stopped, I can't imagine what the flood would have been had it not. Oh and someone stepped on a big catfish. In the friggan road!!

16) Bar Celona looks great. From Cheap charlies. But I was happy enough at CCs so didn't go over.

17) Pinalove. Met an amazing young girl (well 26). Simply perfect body and dynamite in bed. She's a strange one in that she has multiple (decent size) businesses and is a nurse, going to spain soon. But still does freelance for 3500. I guess to also meet foreigner (only interested in under 45). Anyway, saw her twice and what a great time.

18) Pinalove or Tinder. Can't recall as can't find details. But got bait and switched. Not a big deal, but guys just ask them to take a photo that you can trust before meeting. If your lazy, you get what you get.

19) Jeffu Japanese and Jewel are two pretty good restaurants. Central Park tower is still really solid choice and the girls really love it. But they have no food in the mini bar. Weird.

Overall, for me 3 nights, which I extended to 4 nights was fine. No there are not a lot (read "any") of day time options for s*x, but that improves after a day or two with girls you meet or can be addressed through pre-arrival Pinalove or tinder girls. Anyway I liked it enough, and that was in a super typhoon. About an hour to get to AC. It was really fast.

Arrived in AC (central park tower) at about 3 pm and had a girl from Pinal Love (Also on tinder) called Allondra22. She looks good in her photos, she looked. Exactly the same in real person. Cut to the chase, she is lovely. She was absolutely aweseome to have fun with in bed. BBBJ was really great, he boobs are fantastic, her big ass felt great, and she really enjoyed f*cking and had some great skills. I'll definitely see her before she goes. I paid 5000, but you can get her for something with a 3 in front I think, and definitely for 4000. Do yourself a favour and see this girl if you like active participation.

Later went bar hopping;.

1) Lollipop. A few really cute girls in Lollipop, it was too early to bar fine, but I really wanted to with this one girl. She was perfect. The bar is fun.

2) Lucifer. Drinks seemed cheap there and a couple cute girls. One of the nicer bars.

3) Insomnia. Seemed a bit like windmill in Pattaya. Some girls were getting very involved with some older gentlemen and having a great time. I really liked this bar, in fact I'll start there tonight. Absolutely no pressure to buy a drink, their motto seems to be we are fun, why wouldn't you want to stay.

4) Aces. Mamasan remembered me from one night last September. UNfortuntely the girl I came to see, Rose, was away for a week. Damn. But really lovely staff, I bought a girl a drink. Well I bought her ass a drink. It deserved two. Theres a 40 year old (spotlight) girl there who made it repeatedly very clear she want to give me a blow job haha.

5) Las Vegas. A few girls would stop staring at me, and the only one I liked never looked at me once. Don't you hate that.

6) Vikings. Great bar as you all know. Came close to bar fining a few girls. I will go back.

7) Dollhouse. Nothing to see here, really weirdly terrible.

8 Baccara. I think a few girls looked nice but not quite what I wanted.

9) Sensations. Has some good energy and nice people. Bought a girl a drink, thought about bar fining, but couldn't see enough of her body to be confident.

10) XS. Seriously? This place is unbelievable and 5 steps above the others for entertainment. I know that may not be a priority for all, but it was genuinely entertaining. They have 300+ girls doing differnt shows. The glow / lazer show is simply excellent. The pole dancing was fantastic. I usually hate this sort of thing. But it was great. I do not understand the economics. Most of the dancing girls just dance, they don't bar fine. So how does my few drinks and bar fine pay for all those entertainment girls earning 1000 peso a night (I was told)? I bar fined Janey. We went to mega dance at 12 and had a great time. She danced crazy with every girl nearby, and she was just great. IN the morning she was a little funny, and we actually didn't f*ck. Which was kinda weird as we got on so well, but I guess we just had such a great time it wasnt a priority when we got back and in the morning I could have but thought ehh I'll save it for another girl. Anyway 5000 bar fine and she was really great. Don't get me wrong. We did fool around a bit.

11) Next daytime. Cute girl at 123 bar. But on period. Damn. Went to Q bar. It was okay the night before, a couple girls barfinable in quality. I picked the girl in white dress and the only one that didn't stare at me. (I'm young looking, in shape and white. So I get a lot of stares). She was about to get food so I just barfined her (4000) before talking to her. We go to Tuquila Reef (is that it? She ordered a lot and ate very little. 700 pesos for nothing. Only said a few word to me during lunch, on my asking. Anyway, I know you should never bar fine a girl not showing interest. But I wanted to test the theory and she has tha best side boob going on (not massive but great), and I had to know more. Back in room she takes shower. I sit on bed and pull her in. She kisses. Hmmm. Interesting for someone so stand offish. I get the towell off. Ding ding ding, jesus christ. What a perfect body. PERFECT. She was just realllly shy, but certainy got into as we went. Not crazy style, but I could tell she loved it and some of the positions. All up it was all worth it. Jeeze, that body. Here name is Kate.

I can't recall where I go to in my last report, but I'll group a few days together from what I remember. Angeles City;.

Party One Bar - 1500 peso for short time. Ofcourse this is the smallest bar in the phillipines, it is quite hillarious. Especially when there are 4 girls in there. I took out Crezzel (or something like that), party to test if a 1500 peso girl is really any worse than a 4000 girl (and yes I know the 4000 girl is 1500 for locals on her day off). Anyway, Crezzel is missing a couple of side teeth (which I weird find cute), but otherwise she was objectively beautiful. BBBJ was great, really great. Her body was really good. Sex was fun and intimate. So I highly recommend her. Another chubby girl in the bar looked very cute too if you like that.

Massage girl. JemalynBondoc - Pinalove. All I can say is this girl has had some terrible luck. I won't tell you how much I gave her to help her out, as I'm sure some people will get annoyed with me for being a human. But she has lovely hands and is very sweet, so do give her some work if you can.

69 Rock bar. Rooftop bar. There was no sign on the ground level but I found the elevator (to the left of the pharmacy). Oddly designed space with the bar area in the middle taking up 80% of the rooms space. A desgin flaw I'm sure. BUT the girls are lovely / down right friggan hot, the pizza is pretty good (they actually cook the bottom). And it plays rock music. Only let down was the guy choosing latin rnb. When I came to listen to rock music. But he was spending alot of money so I get it. But still. Its a rock bar, come on. Stick to the theme.

Insomnia. I really like this bar as it has everything. Good entertainment from the girls, food, great layout, girls are fun and. Hands on. No other bar I saw has this combination. Sure XS has better entertainment, but it doesn't have a fun atmosphere. Anyway I barfined Rea (dark skin and best ass in angeles). She was lovely. Actually Insomnia generally has the best ass ratio in angeles if that's your thing.

I have a girl visiting from Subic in a minute, so will be a quiet night. BUt tomorrow night I'll bar hop a little and try to get to MDC disco. If anyone has any bars they want me to check before I leave on Friday just ask me, I'm happy to.

Central Park Tower is still pretty good combo of everything. Room, late night pool, food, access to walking street, very girl friendly.

Update to my AC adventure. My subic bay girl stayed two days instead on one, which killed my further barhopping plans. It was nice for her to go from saying she'd never barfine to saying fuck me harder. Haha. Though the next day she turned back into conservative girl.

Mega Dance Centre. Had two nice nights here, though much busier on the Sunday than the Wednesday. Both times had a girl already so couldn't do much. But there are certainly nice girls doing laps, so grab a table and wait if you want to be a lazy hunter. Personally I perfer to see the girls in their preferred clothes to get an idea of their personaility, rather than seeing them in a bikini etc, though ofcourse the latter is better for ensuring no suprises later. Side note. Ofcourse generally if a girl is covering a part of her body and showing another part you should be pessimistic about the bit being covered. Girls are stupid. But then you miss out on the absolute delight of later finding out the covered bit is great too. One of lifes greatest joys is finding some amazing boobs, butt or tummy previously being hidden. If you have limited time though. Go to the bar for bikini.

Anyway, I had a Pina Love girl come over for massage and video as she was on period so sex was out. She was 2 hours late. So when she arrived I dropped the price from 3 k to 2 k. (I know 3 k is high but wanted video). She agreed with me that I wasn't nice, but I was fair. The girl was Jowelaine012. She was okay. There was something sexy about her.

When my subic girl was here and was sleeping in. Verrrry late. I decided to go meet another girl from Pina Love. Phiaaa2023. This girl is very slim, tattoos, okay butt and really great boobs. Be cup but given she was so skinny, they seemed big. They were perfect shape and firmness. Anyway she was so light that standup / pickup s*x was easy and she has a beautiful face. Anyway I recommend her if you like small girls. I think I paid 4 k.

That was about it, only other observations were;.

1) As already stated by others, filipinas fall in love verrrry quickly. Most of the girls I saw wanted long time and would have stayed for days if I let them.

2) They are addicted to their phones. And I mean addicted. I get it, there's not much more to do in AC, but you have to try to pry them away.

3) Trikes. The locals don't ask for price they just always give 100 at the end, fairly regardless of the trip length. If you ask they then know you are tourist and will ask for 150. So either tell them 100 period or say nothing and just give them 100 at the end.

4) The girls get drunk fast if not drinking their staple from the bar. 10 beers at the bar no problem. 2 cocktails at the club and drunk.

Just an update. My last night in phillipines was also in Manila.

1) New Coast Hotel. Really lovely hotel and great location if you want to go LA, Z6. The dumpling place across the road is so cheap and so so good! Very girl friendly hotel.

2) I got a Pina Love girl for a couple hours when I first arrived (after 3. 5 HR drive from Angeles due to the floods). Sorry I lost her name when deleted the account. She was funny, she had a big tummy that made her look pregnant, but it was fine. And had really big and nice breasts, cute butt and pretty face. So I was happy. It was 5 k and for those boobs I was happy. I'm sure I could have got her for more like 3. 5 k if I wanted to haggle but I was in a rush.

3) Went to LA cafe to see a girl I met the year before, Jessa. Such a lovely girl and legs and ass are out of this world. I was going to get her to pick another girl for me but I was happy to just be with her as I'd already planned to spend the next day with her (9 pm flight home). Anyway observations;.

(I) She cost 7 k normally. She was happy to see me for free but I want to help her so I insisted on paying. And to keep the line between customer and boyfriend clear. Her friend is also 7 k so that seems the norm for 7/10 girls. Aparrantly some Japanese guys pay 10 k short time, no problem. Hence why the girls swarm around them. I'm sure a lot of girls would take 5 k easily.

(ii) Need to be careful with waitresses as drinks are expensive. I bought quite a few but I really like a couple of the waitresses and it was my last night. One waitress remembered what I ordered to eat from 11 months earlier on my single night there. Not bad. But you do need to be careful.

(iii) The girls. I've never seen so many 6. 5/10 girls in the one place, and I mean this as a good thing. Yes there are some 4 and 5's, but sheesh on a Friday night at least 30 6. 5's with a few 7's. Later in the night, say midnight, better looking girls come in, I'm sure a saw a few 8's. There is one girl who walks around like she is a snobby queen. She looked at my disapprovingly, as though who was I to choose someone that wasn't her when it was clear we had some mutual interest. Maybe she remembered me looking at her last time I was there (last Sept). I remember her atleast.

(iv) Some girls sleep upstairs, its 150 pesos per day. Just an FYI.

(v) Dusk till Dawn. A couple waitresses are cute, but more importantly their pizza is really good. Super thin and crispy.

(vi) The 3 min walk from New Coast to Robinsons Mall (a nice mall inside) has lots of girls offering massage, and some look pretty cute.At any point using pina love did you think there were non hookers on there, or did you realize pretty quick everyone on there is a working girl.

[D Cups]

Hi guys I'm having a glorious time in AC the last 10 days. A dozen different girls and several repeats -- most from Angel Witch because they open early for the morning wood. This trip featured a 32 C or the 45 kilo spinner who was squirting her milk all over me so nice. Also a barely 18 with a nice rack in Subic who took care of me for three days. Also saw some old flames. This place is great for a week or two. Now its back to Duma where I live. Cheers.

[WestCoast1]

Spent nearly 2 weeks recently in AC. The next several reports are of my bar experiences. The word 'update' in my report means that I went in again at a later date and saw something different than the first (or previous) time (s). These are bar reports only. The first batch is the Brown Sugar / Camelot / Insomnia area from Constantin to Teodoro streets. Later reports will be WS area. It rained almost non-stop during my stay; every 2-4 days the rain would break for a few hours, then start again. Rain / street flooding dropped a lot of foot traffic.

On July 23, NS said: "Camelot bar, had more girls in than the last few bars, probably 20 odd girls, even had 3 or 4 customers,1 customer sitting with the only 2 girls that were ok looking and fairly slim, other girls mixture of oldies and fatties, 1 drink and left." I concur with this. Along the Brown Sugar corridor, depending time of day and other factors, you could easily walk into any of them and see a dozen fuglies and no lookers, or 1 looker. Frightening at times the circumference of some of the ladies. Most of those bars open early now, 10 am-ish (ala Perimeter). I walked into all of those open in the 10-11 am timeframe where a barker outside was calling customers in, more than once, and nearly had to run back outside. In several of them each time I walked in, none of the girls were on the dance floor (or if they were, they were sitting on their butts on the floor). One morning about 10:30 am I ducked into one (SS I think) when the door girl got my attention. Just before the curtain was a cute gogo girl squatting on the floor on her phone. I almost got past her to the curtain without being noticed, when she screamed, way too loud: "Good morning sir! Go inside!" It seemed to me to be a warning to others, like a beaver slapping its tail, rather than an invitation. It was a good warning. As I reached for the curtain I could hear a woman inside screaming "UP! GET UP!" As I entered, I was greeted with the sight of 2 girls sitting on the dance floor, and the remaining 10-ish girls laying down on the perimeter benches. Nobody was dancing to the loud music as there were no customers. An older lady was trying to roust them to stand up and get on the stage. Several times I entered this or that bar in the area to a similar greeting: Girls either laying down, or some of them possibly asleep, with a mama commanding gals to get up and on the stage as a customer was now on-site. In some bars a loud bell rings anytime a customer walks in thru the door, which causes the girls to either stand up and shuffle, or if already standing (still) to start shuffling (like Pavlov is still alive).

SS update: Popped into SS on my last night, and the girls were all on stage doing the shuffle, and there were at least a handful of customers in the bar. A quick once-over showed 4 do-able, the rest not.

Old Club, morning: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer, and the stage was filled with ALL chub / fugs. NO! Emergency egress!

Soya: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer, and the stage was filled with fuglies. Emergency egress. Another morning I poked my head in and every GRO was sitting down. This second time I didn't bother stopping for a few seconds to check the level of guapa. Another egress.

ACE bar: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer. On stage were about a dozen girls, split between cuties and fuglies. Simple egress.

Insomnia bar 7 pm: 8 customers, and about 8 girls (all cuties!) dancing, zero fugllies. All the girls were small, appearing 5' or so. Cute bunch. Say YES to the dress.

Brown Sugar: Had a drink one evening about 9 pm. I was the only customer. Four flat-chested spinners in their 20's, 3 fuglies, 7 total. One drink and out.

BS update: Went in another night. Me and one other customer. 4 girls: two fuglies, one cute flat spinner, and one booby 7 on the scale. One drink and out. As soon as I ordered a drink and before it came, one of the fuglies and the spinner left the stage and sat down, leaving one fugly and the booby to shuffle.

Camelot bar: Went in during the late morning, twice, to see chubs / fugs sitting around, no customers. Quick egress. Only went in because the girl outside was pretty. The pretty girl outside, seeing me depart: "Sir where are you going?" Anywhere but in there, sweet-cheeks.

Camelot update: Went in one evening to see six chubs and 1 do-able. Several gals went on break as soon as I ordered a drink, leaving 1 chub and the do-able on stage. One drink and out.

Not sure why this group of bars is opening so early with no customers. Early afternoon might be wiser.

WS report coming soon. WS bars were better for the most part.

CAVEAT: Whatever I saw and reported here, and additionally whatever another fella saw and reported. These things change constantly in every bar. A shift change, every 30-ish minutes, means the 15 cuties on the stage need to rest their shuffling feeties, and they might be replaced by 15 so-so or fuglies. Alternately several cuties barfine in a short span of time, and the mama throws up chubby replacements. In addition, girls quit and new girls get hired. The scenery changes often / regularly, so take with a grain of salt what is reported here. Two different fellas can see a very different lineup just 30 minutes apart.

[Revrez]

I'm currently looking for some tips and recommendations from those who are familiar with the scene in AC. I am planning a monthly stay in the city and I'm on the lookout for a modern and reasonably priced condo. If you guys have any suggestions or recommendations on where to start my search, I would appreciate the input. Whether it's a specific neighborhood, real estate websites, or any local tips you might have.

[Sailor Jack]

This article is from a couple of weeks ago. There is a 'raid' on the bars about once per month. If you do a search, you will find more similar news articles. These raids are usually initiated by someone missing a protection payment.

The use of fake ID's is rampant in the bars. The raids are real, and the legal penalties are harsh. Sailor Jack's understanding is that the girls work for the mamasan, not the bar, so the bars owners are kept clear.

Sailor Jack was in Insomnia Bar about 8 months ago when a raid occurred. When word hit the bar of the impending raid 18 of the 20 girls on stage disappeared in 10 seconds flat, talaga. They all ran out the back of the place and there were just 2 wide-eyed girls left on stage.

Long ago, Sailor Jack knew a mamasan in Cebu City who got busted for underage sex workers. She was 27 years old and she got 20 years in jail. Philippine prisons are horrible.

Not sure if this news article link will be allowed on ISG;.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1634006/14-rescued-from-5-human-traffickers-in-angeles-city

Image; unrelated SJ archive photo.

[Parkx239]

I've been chatting with a couple of girls on DIA in Angeles city area.

I've never met anyone yet through dating app. But I was wondering if it's really safe.

I've heard some horror stories about dating app.

Filipino police raiding hotel asking money.

Plus prostitution is illegal in the Philippines.

What are the chance of police raiding hotel during the act?

Or getting into any kind of trouble?

Just curious.

[TjBrazil]

This article is from a couple of weeks ago. There is a 'raid' on the bars about once per month. If you do a search, you will find more similar news articles. These raids are usually initiated by someone missing a protection payment.

The use of fake ID's is rampant in the bars. The raids are real, and the legal penalties are harsh. Sailor Jack's understanding is that the girls work for the mamasan, not the bar, so the bars owners are kept clear.

Sailor Jack was in Insomnia Bar about 8 months ago when a raid occurred. When word hit the bar of the impending raid 18 of the 20 girls on stage disappeared in 10 seconds flat, talaga. They all ran out the back of the place and there were just 2 wide-eyed girls left on stage.

Long ago, Sailor Jack knew a mamasan in Cebu City who got busted for underage sex workers. She was 27 years old and she got 20 years in jail. Philippine prisons are horrible.

Not sure if this news article link will be allowed on ISG;.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1634006/14-rescued-from-5-human-traffickers-in-angeles-city

Image; unrelated SJ archive photo.Are you saying 18 of the 20 are underage, that's why they left. I'm really concerned about my trip. I thought the bars did all the work to make sure everyone is legal. What happens to a customer who is in there and a raid happens. Do they arrest the customer who is in there drinking. Should I stick to just the main KTV and Gogo bars so everyone is legal for sure.

[Beavis]

Are you saying 18 of the 20 are underage, that's why they left. I'm really concerned about my trip. I thought the bars did all the work to make sure everyone is legal. What happens to a customer who is in there and a raid happens. Do they arrest the customer who is in there drinking. Should I stick to just the main KTV and Gogo bars so everyone is legal for sure.The girls all ran off the stage because often they are mistreated by the honest (sarcasm) officers that are conducting the raid. I personally know the owner of Insomnia, he is a member of one of the local MC Clubs and they do a lot to help the poor residents there. He has been in Angeles for many years and I promise you that none of his girls are underage. The corrupt government of Angeles City is always conducting some type of unauthorized inspection to get some money in their pockets. Most of the bar owners in Subic were bar owners in Angeles before they moved here, guess why they left Angeles?

[Member #4794]

What are the chance of police raiding hotel during the act?
100% seems like you are planning on something prohibited on this forum to begin with so 100% if you are doing something that warrants it.

[Sailor Jack]

INSOMNIA BAR.

Sailor Jack does not know why the girls ran out the back of Insomnia Bar* on that one evening more than 8 months ago. He was told that it was due to a rumored 'raid' about to happen. Beavis says "the corrupt government of Angeles City is always conducting some type of unauthorized inspection to get some money in their pockets" and that sounds right. Sailor Jack thinks that every bar in Angeles gets this kind of extortion.

Sailor Jack did NOT mean to leave the impression that it was due to underage problems. Sailor Jack simply does not know.

Sailor Jack recommends Insomnia Bar. Insomnia Bar has a good-looking set of girls and they are fun and playful. Insomnia is clean and has great AirCon. Insomnia's bar food is pretty good as well. Sailor Jack recommends the double cheeseburger with fries. The biker group that hangs out in Insomnia is easy going and they are often the life of the party. The big biker guy (owner?) goes and around and speaks to every patron and makes them feel welcome. Sailor Jack heartily recommends Insomnia Bar.

*This is one of many reasons why Sailor Jack almost never uses the actual name of a bar.

Over the years Sailor Jack has been present in three different bars when they got 'raided' by local officials / police. Sailor Jack has never seen any harm come to a patron over this. Sailor Jack has never heard of any harm coming to a patron over this.

As far as Sailor Jack knows, if the girls gots a bar ID you are in the clear. I have never heard of any problem for the patron if the girl has a bar ID. However, the paperwork that goes into getting these IDs, that is another matter and someone else's problem.

Sailor Jack really hopes that he cleared that up.

And yet, as part of Sailor Jack's service here, SJ must also impart a word of caution on a related topic. Sailor Jack, BigA, and GCal have all lately noticed girls working the street who look very young. For goodness sake, do not get caught up in that nightmare.

Image; unrelated SJ archives.

[Jarango]

100% seems like you are planning on something prohibited on this forum to begin with so 100% if you are doing something that warrants it.If the cops raid your place while you are in "the act ", there are two possibilities.

1. You are, as Montana infers, engaging in illegal sexual acts that are explicitly against the laws of the Philippines and many other countries. Under this scenario, you can expect to be shaken down for all you have in cash and cards unless you pay up. If you don't, expect jail time.

2. As you met these dolly birds on a website, it may well be a scam, in which case it will play out the same way. You will have a person in the room with you who, no matter what to the contrary they have sworn to you, will play out the same way as 1 above.

The hotel may or may not save your bacon in this by refusing entry to your business acquaintance. However, if they do save your bacon, they wil want you gone. Immediately, as they do not need the headache.

[BroComplex]

INSOMNIA BAR.

Sailor Jack does not know why the girls ran out the back of Insomnia Bar* on that one evening more than 8 months ago. He was told that it was due to a rumored 'raid' about to happen. Beavis says "the corrupt government of Angeles City is always conducting some type of unauthorized inspection to get some money in their pockets" and that sounds right. Sailor Jack thinks that every bar in Angeles gets this kind of extortion.

Sailor Jack did NOT mean to leave the impression that it was due to underage problems. Sailor Jack simply does not know.

Sailor Jack recommends Insomnia Bar. Insomnia Bar has a good-looking set of girls and they are fun and playful. Insomnia is clean and has great AirCon. Insomnia's bar food is pretty good as well. Sailor Jack recommends the double cheeseburger with fries. The biker group that hangs out in Insomnia is easy going and they are often the life of the party. The big biker guy (owner?) goes and around and speaks to every patron and makes them feel welcome. Sailor Jack heartily recommends Insomnia Bar.

*This is one of many reasons why Sailor Jack almost never uses the actual name of a bar.

Over the years Sailor Jack has been present in three different bars when they got 'raided' by local officials / police. Sailor Jack has never seen any harm come to a patron over this. Sailor Jack has never heard of any harm coming to a patron over this.

As far as Sailor Jack knows, if the girls gots a bar ID you are in the clear. I have never heard of any problem for the patron if the girl has a bar ID. However, the paperwork that goes into getting these IDs, that is another matter and someone else's problem.

Sailor Jack really hopes that he cleared that up.

And yet, as part of Sailor Jack's service here, SJ must also impart a word of caution on a related topic. Sailor Jack, BigA, and GCal have all lately noticed girls working the street who look very young. For goodness sake, do not get caught up in that nightmare.

Image; unrelated SJ archives.Stop referring to yourself in third person.

[Drbombay]

Lurkers,

A rather odd question I need to ask. Long story short, met a working lady from Alua during pandemic and once PI was opened paid her a visit. Typical bar girl with a good heart, but many kids (FWIW, she baby daddy Australian, but looks and acts and still F'sus Brothers!

Got the assorted videos and Fansly web links, and whatever the latest fad is for them to make money, but she always wants to ask for money to send her kids to school. Never mind asking the baby daddy's but seems I'm always hit up for some type of school tuition fee. Don't get me wrong, when I'm there I pay to play and tip probably above par, but now that the world is back open I just don't have it in me to send money around.

Especially when every other day there's a new video on TikTok or picture of her somewhere with the latest weave, clothes, shoes, etc. I think she is a prime example of a "fool and her money are soon parted" but she does have a good heart, just a Hood mentality.

My question to all, is it really that expensive to send a kid to school down there since it seems that's the going request these days.

As an aside, when I did see this lady in person, she was upset because a dude from Guam in the USAF had stopped communicating daily with her because he was coming over there to "take her away from it all. " I stated to her you really can't be serious about changing your spots if you are upset he stopped texting you on demand daily and yet your are laying here naked to me!

Some things never change!

[Amadeuss]

I've been chatting with a couple of girls on DIA in Angeles city area.

I've never met anyone yet through dating app. But I was wondering if it's really safe.

I've heard some horror stories about dating app.

Filipino police raiding hotel asking money.

Plus prostitution is illegal in the Philippines.

What are the chance of police raiding hotel during the act?

Or getting into any kind of trouble?

Just curious.Meeting women is dangerous per se. Filipinas in particular.

Please stay back home. That's safe.

[Sammon]

Lurkers,

A rather odd question I need to ask. Long story short, met a working lady from Alua during pandemic and once PI was opened paid her a visit. Typical bar girl with a good heart, but many kids (FWIW, she baby daddy Australian, but looks and acts and still F'sus Brothers!

Got the assorted videos and Fansly web links, and whatever the latest fad is for them to make money, but she always wants to ask for money to send her kids to school. Never mind asking the baby daddy's but seems I'm always hit up for some type of school tuition fee. Don't get me wrong, when I'm there I pay to play and tip probably above par, but now that the world is back open I just don't have it in me to send money around.

Especially when every other day there's a new video on TikTok or picture of her somewhere with the latest weave, clothes, shoes, etc. I think she is a prime example of a "fool and her money are soon parted" but she does have a good heart, just a Hood mentality.

My question to all, is it really that expensive to send a kid to school down there since it seems that's the going request these days.

As an aside, when I did see this lady in person, she was upset because a dude from Guam in the USAF had stopped communicating daily with her because he was coming over there to "take her away from it all. " I stated to her you really can't be serious about changing your spots if you are upset he stopped texting you on demand daily and yet your are laying here naked to me!

Some things never change!Welcome to Philippines!

There are always money demands from Philippine girls. Many of them ask before even meeting. Then they wonder why you do not send money. As a rule I tend to avoid bargirls and girls with kids. I have stopped communicating if there are money demands right away. If I really like the girl I tell her I will give money after meeting.

There are many lonesome guys who will or have married and taken girls to Guam. Servicemen from Guam frequently come to Philippines for fun because it is a short hop and there are few options in Guam.

If you are paying for play do not need to worry what's the average expense they have for kid's school or anything else. Yes, I have supported some girls through college before and they have been appreciative give or take couple who fell through the cracks.

Angeles being the capital of prostitution there are plenty of scams. Some have done pretty well having many sponsors who send them money. Believe me once you start sending money there will be more demands. I have had girls ask for money saying they are starving, phone stolen, mom in hospital, cousin dead and need money for funeral, no money to buy gifts for someone birthday etc. I have heard it all.

Real smart monger just pays for fun only.

[TjBrazil]

Looks like I will scratch AC off the list of places to visit, I will also avoid freelancers walking the street. Manila and Boracay and that's it. Hopefully all the girls at the Manila bars are legal and I won't have issues. Smoochi seems legit. Haven't heard anything bad about that site on the forums. Some of the girls are expensive as hell but some are reasonable.

Also, maybe I will meet a clone of Pia at Robertson mall, and she will love 50 year olds that are drop dead gorgeous and remind her of brad Pitt. She will stay with me for 2 weeks and love pse blowjobs and pse sex. It could happen.

[Goferring]

Meeting women is dangerous per se. Filipinas in particular.

Please stay back home. That's safe.I'd agree that bringing unknown women back to my room doesn't appear in recommended security checklists anywhere.

Having said that, take the most basic of precautions and all is normally well. No drugs. No kids. Lock valuables away.

Don't leave her alone to rifle thru stuff.

Typically, any raids etc have a back story that they guy was / is doing something he shouldn't and has invited blackmail or threats. It's exceedingly rare for a totally blameless guy to be subject to opportunistic police action.

Same with the girls. Does stuff very occasionally get stolen, threats get made etc? Sure but typically only after the guy has invited it in some way.

In 30 ish years I've had one iPad and a wallet stolen. Both times were my fault after leaving everything out in the open when going to sleep.

Be sensible but no need to be paranoid.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Welcome to Philippines!

There are always money demands from Philippine girls. Many of them ask before even meeting...

Real smart monger just pays for fun only.If DrB has met her, enjoyed the session and wants to repeat later, then just keep her number and give her a call upon returning. No need for daily correspondence and transfers until this happens.

I've never had a girl refuse to see me when I'm there in town because I didn't send cash while I was away.

All 'my' girls know that I'm generous when they are in the room but don't send money while I'm away. It's much better to pool all the sick buffalo money and keep it to spend as a lump sum upon arrivals. I've heard of guys sending 00,000's piecemeal during being away for a few years with nothing to show for it. That funds a hell of a holiday if saved up.

Enjoy. G.

[Lou32]

Stop referring to yourself in third person.As an old creative writing guy from way back, THANK YOU!!

[Locamotive]

This article is from a couple of weeks ago. There is a 'raid' on the bars about once per month. If you do a search, you will find more similar news articles. These raids are usually initiated by someone missing a protection payment.

The use of fake ID's is rampant in the bars. The raids are real, and the legal penalties are harsh. Sailor Jack's understanding is that the girls work for the mamasan, not the bar, so the bars owners are kept clear.

Sailor Jack was in Insomnia Bar about 8 months ago when a raid occurred. When word hit the bar of the impending raid 18 of the 20 girls on stage disappeared in 10 seconds flat, talaga. They all ran out the back of the place and there were just 2 wide-eyed girls left on stage.

Long ago, Sailor Jack knew a mamasan in Cebu City who got busted for underage sex workers. She was 27 years old and she got 20 years in jail. Philippine prisons are horrible.

Not sure if this news article link will be allowed on ISG;.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1634006/14-rescued-from-5-human-traffickers-in-angeles-city

Image; unrelated SJ archive photo.She is just about perfect, that is settle down pussy. Of course you can't judge a book by its cover, but it would certainly be worth looking into.

[FuriousGeorge]

As an old creative writing guy, you should realize that SJ is obviously a talented writer and is presenting a unique and entertaining writing style that many enjoy.


As an old creative writing guy from way back, THANK YOU!!

[Parkx239]

If the cops raid your place while you are in "the act ", there are two possibilities.

1. You are, as Montana infers, engaging in illegal sexual acts that are explicitly against the laws of the Philippines and many other countries. Under this scenario, you can expect to be shaken down for all you have in cash and cards unless you pay up. If you don't, expect jail time.

2. As you met these dolly birds on a website, it may well be a scam, in which case it will play out the same way. You will have a person in the room with you who, no matter what to the contrary they have sworn to you, will play out the same way as 1 above.

The hotel may or may not save your bacon in this by refusing entry to your business acquaintance. However, if they do save your bacon, they wil want you gone. Immediately, as they do not need the headache.No, I'm not planning on doing anything illegal. Just sex. Just wanted to make sure that it's relatively safe. Because I heard bad rumors going around in Korean community.

I talked to one of my Korean friends the other day. It seemed like most of Koreans are very skittish about using any kind of dating app in general. And probably that's why they stick to going to the bars only.

Probably, Koreans are more susceptible to getting set up or scammed because of their limited English skill? I don't know.

What kind of scams can those dolly birds pull? Any one can give me an example?

[WestCoast1]

Stop referring to yourself in third person.


As an old creative writing guy from way back, THANK YOU!!


As an old creative writing guy, you should realize that SJ is obviously a talented writer and is presenting a unique and entertaining writing style that many enjoy.We had a guy previously, board name was something like 'Shooter' or such. He wrote the same way, referring to himself. I find it entertaining.

[Fastpiston]

If DrB has met her, enjoyed the session and wants to repeat later, then just keep her number and give her a call upon returning. No need for daily correspondence and transfers until this happens.

I've never had a girl refuse to see me when I'm there in town because I didn't send cash while I was away.

All 'my' girls know that I'm generous when they are in the room but don't send money while I'm away. It's much better to pool all the sick buffalo money and keep it to spend as a lump sum upon arrivals. I've heard of guys sending 00,000's piecemeal during being away for a few years with nothing to show for it. That funds a hell of a holiday if saved up.

Enjoy. G.That's exactly what I do. I communicate occasionally but never send money. If asked, I don't reply for 1-2 months. When I say I'm arriving, there is joy and terrific fun.

[Coca Cvs]

Lurkers,

A rather odd question I need to ask. Long story short, met a working lady from Alua during pandemic and once PI was opened paid her a visit. Typical bar girl with a good heart, but many kids (FWIW, she baby daddy Australian, but looks and acts and still F'sus Brothers!

Got the assorted videos and Fansly web links, and whatever the latest fad is for them to make money, but she always wants to ask for money to send her kids to school. Never mind asking the baby daddy's but seems I'm always hit up for some type of school tuition fee. Don't get me wrong, when I'm there I pay to play and tip probably above par, but now that the world is back open I just don't have it in me to send money around.

Especially when every other day there's a new video on TikTok or picture of her somewhere with the latest weave, clothes, shoes, etc. I think she is a prime example of a "fool and her money are soon parted" but she does have a good heart, just a Hood mentality.

My question to all, is it really that expensive to send a kid to school down there since it seems that's the going request these days.

As an aside, when I did see this lady in person, she was upset because a dude from Guam in the USAF had stopped communicating daily with her because he was coming over there to "take her away from it all. " I stated to her you really can't be serious about changing your spots if you are upset he stopped texting you on demand daily and yet your are laying here naked to me!

Some things never change!I believe it costs money to go to school, but it's affordable enough that she should be able to pay for it by herself.

[Coolie High]

Stop referring to yourself in third person.Theres an art to storytelling as that is his style which is refreshing to read then some of the bland reports you see in other threads from this site. Hes like the writing version of Capt Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Carribean.

So yeah, let Sailor Jack be Sailor Jack.

[Werqweq]

Sailor Jack witnessed a ladyboy fight early this morning in front of Phillies.

So Sailor Jack is at Phillies about 5 am this morning eating a Phillies omelet, which comes with coffee, and minding his own business like always.

Great commentary. It felt like I was sitting ringside.

[Lou32]

As an old creative writing guy, you should realize that SJ is obviously a talented writer and is presenting a unique and entertaining writing style that many enjoy.Name a well-known and respected author that refers to him or herself in the third person at the beginning of each paragraph of a story. I'll wait.

[Gonz0]

Gonz0 would prefer it, if Sailor Jack continued to post in the style that Sailor Jack is accustomed. Sailor Jack's posts are informative and entertaining, but also, more importantly, they are on topic.

Gonz0 does not find the grammar police posts to be of any value, and would appreciate it, if the grammar police would post them in some other, more appropriate forum.

[Jarango]

Name a well-known and respected author that refers to him or herself in the third person at the beginning of each paragraph of a story. I'll wait.Pele.

When all the world's greats were asked who the greatest player ever was, that is how Pele referred to himself as. The great Maradona, the god of Napoli, said his mother said he was the greatest, which I found witty.

Far worse here are the guys who copy and paste entire posts wen replying to them.

With regard to school prices, schools are expensive at the best of times, more so now when kids watch each other with brands and so on. Then you have all the conspicuous consumption of slums, beauty pageants, Holy Communions and so on. Pay pigs should know their place. Pay up and smile.

[Drbombay]

If DrB has met her, enjoyed the session and wants to repeat later, then just keep her number and give her a call upon returning. No need for daily correspondence and transfers until this happens.

I've never had a girl refuse to see me when I'm there in town because I didn't send cash while I was away.

All 'my' girls know that I'm generous when they are in the room but don't send money while I'm away. It's much better to pool all the sick buffalo money and keep it to spend as a lump sum upon arrivals. I've heard of guys sending 00,000's piecemeal during being away for a few years with nothing to show for it. That funds a hell of a holiday if saved up.

Enjoy. G.Yeah I try to do it that way, but sometimes I just laugh at all of the requests, and the new ways the stories can be spun to get a donation.

[WestCoast1]

Name a well-known and respected author that refers to him or herself in the third person at the beginning of each paragraph of a story. I'll wait.Shooter and Sailor Jack.


Gonz0 would prefer it, if Sailor Jack continued to post in the style that Sailor Jack is accustomed. Sailor Jack's posts are informative and entertaining, but also, more importantly, they are on topic.

Gonz0 does not find the grammar police posts to be of any value, and would appreciate it, if the grammar police would post them in some other, more appropriate forum.If WestCoast1 were here, WestCoast1 would send Gonz0 this PM: "Spot on". WestCoast1 believes that Gonz0 would appreciate it.

[Goferring]

Yeah I try to do it that way, but sometimes I just laugh at all of the requests, and the new ways the stories can be spun to get a donation.I've got to agree there. My favourite was the hospital bills rom rabies infected cats that were going around biting girls in Davao a while ago. Girls must compare notes as several of my friends received the same stories.

Very inventive!!

G.

[FuriousGeorge]

Cormac McCarthy breaks every grammar and punctuation rule and sometimes doesn't finish a sentence and sometimes doesn't put a period for a whole page. And is a genius.

Stephen King wrote a book where the characters in the book became aware that they were characters in a book and that they had to save Stephen King from getting hit by a car so they could survive. He also wrote a book where he would jump 30 years into the future or past in the middle of a sentence by simply starting a new paragraph, with no punctuation indicating such.

Brilliant authors follow no rules. Anyway we're off topic.


Name a well-known and respected author that refers to him or herself in the third person at the beginning of each paragraph of a story. I'll wait.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack is dismayed by the forum discussion of writing style, punctuation, and great authors. For pussy sake, it is a mongering forum. It is fact-based story telling. Let it go at that. Sometimes people are humorless and they just do not get the joke, even if you explain it to them.

Let's try to focus. Take a few quiet moments and stare at the attached image.

There. Now isn't that better?

[Breadman]

I'm sitting at Scooters yesterday and a group of Japanese guys (I think they were Japanese) come in and a guy pulls out a digital camera and the girls are lining up for photos. Even the girls just wearing a string bikini and a bit of tape over their nipples (black tape type of dancers) were all smiling and posing for the guy to snap photos. Girls were even taking off their dresses to pose in just the bra and panties they were wearing. Over and over new girls would move in front of the guy to take photos. And be handed freshly printed glossy 5 x7 inch photos printed from a portable printer. This was right in the open, even the wait staff were sitting nearby watching photo after photo come printing out. Not one of the girls even thinking these photos might be posted somewhere on the internet. If he's doing it in one club he must be doing it in all of them.

[WonderWhy]

Sailor Jack is dismayed by the forum discussion of writing style, punctuation, and great authors. For pussy sake, it is a mongering forum. It is fact-based story telling. Let it go at that. Sometimes people are humorless and they just do not get the joke, even if you explain it to them.

Let's try to focus. Take a few quiet moments and stare at the attached image.

There. Now isn't that better?I know I am much better now! Grin. Thank you!

[WestCoast1]

Let's try to focus. Take a few quiet moments and stare at the attached image.Ya, back to the good stuff.

[WestCoast1]

WS Bars.

Bunny bar (at the open-air restaurant area next to McDonalds), 8 pm: K bar. Nine Korean customers sitting alone or in pairs, and me. Seven beauties on stage, 1 slight chub. No actual uniform. Each girl is just wearing sexy street clothes. Loud music, but no dancing on the stage, not even shuffling. Relaxed (read: dull) atmosphere. Anytime a customer enters, a loud bell rings, and the girls jump to attention. They start shuffling. If he departs, they stop shuffling and the girls stand still. If no new customers come in within a few minutes, some depart the stage at random and sit down (even though there were half a dozen customers in the bar). If the inbound customer sits for a drink, they continue to shuffle for about 2 minutes, then sit down (or, some just walk off the stage for a few minutes). I think its a terrible concept that the girls don't have to at least shuffle when customers are inside the bar drinking, but there seems a different expectation.

Atlantis: Went in several evenings. Gone are the days of 50-80 girls on the lower stage and upper balcony. First night there were 18 girls shuffling downstairs, and 9 standing on the rails upstairs. There were several customers, old geezers and a chinese guy, and absolutely no excitement. Just shuffling. Also its baby-belly-city now; I saw only 1 do-able girl (second floor) in the entire batch that night. Another night I went in to find about the same number of girls, and the pole-dance routine (several girls on the pole at the same time doing a synchronized routine) was ongoing (its great to see). I counted 4 do-able girls (lots of chubbies). Couple of K fellas entered and all eyes turned to them, and stayed there till they left. One of the K fellas was folding up individual 500 and 1000 notes into small squares, then flinging them on the stage in a high arc on to the stage. For the girls on stage, nothing and nobody else mattered in the world. The place was a-jitter with anticipation and smiles, hands outstretched, waiting for the next note to be tossed. Then once the Koreans left, it went back to its dull shuffling self. Atlantis has stumbled.

Q Bar, late afternoon: Went in with a mate. Handful of girls on stage (2 cuties, several not-so-much). Two groups of 2 Korean customers each at different tables completely ignoring everything. Shuffling. Loud music. Me having a rum / coke. The waitress at least politely asked if I wanted to buy a LD (declined). DULL, but my buddy got a cutie and purchased her a LD (the cutie was attentive, bubbly, and sweet with my buddy).

Masquerade, early evening: Just 4 girls. 3 chubs, 1 do-able. Several customers. Shuffling. Walked out without sitting down.

Arabesque, 11 pm: 30 girls on stage, but no dancing or shuffle. Three rows of girls. Closest to the stage (row #1) about 10 girls sitting down. Behind them, row #2, about 10 shorter gals. Behind them, row #3, about 10 taller girls. Most girls dressed in black, but at least a handful just dressed in sexy street clothes. Kind of like a fishbowl setup. Very pushy waitresses, massage ladies, and fellas with laser pointers trying to get me to bring a girl over for LD. At one point a mama was standing next to me with a laser pointer trying to get me to take various girls for LD. "You want this one?" No. "That one?" No. And so on. Persistent. Then a guy came over with his laser pointer, and the guy and the mama tag-teamed me with non-stop laser pointing at different girls trying to get me to buy a LD. I shoo'd away several massage ladies. Pesky. An annoying guy with a microphone, acting as roving DJ (also using a laser pointer, and also trying to get individual customers to bring a girl down for LD). Of the 30-ish ladies, about 20 were do-able, so not a bad lineup. Half a dozen customers, I was the only gringo.

Club Stars bar, 8 pm: 11 girls, no chubs or fugs. Nice lineup of slender girls. Long 2-piece gowns, skirt on bottom that is ankle-length, and a crop-top that shows a hint of tummy. Classy look. Real choreographed dancing, until one of the three K customers (or he might be management) bought food for everyone. All the girls stopped dancing, grabbed some food, turned their backs to the customers, sat on the stage and snacked. Barfine: ST p4 k and LT 4500. LD is p350. There is a cute phone cubby, the girls can check their phones when on break.

Bad Boy bar, 9 pm: One of the door girls was saying "Come inside". As I was pulling the curtain open to enter, the other door girl said: "We are on break". Which is it: Come inside, or we are on break? Stepping inside, there wasn't anyone there, not a GRO, mama, or bartender. Not one person was visible inside. When they take a break, the really take a break. Quick egress.

Skyfall bar, 10 pm: Walked in and saw every single gogo girl sitting. Lots of chubbies. Music was playing and there were plenty of customers. Must have been break time. I was not even met by a waitress who would show me to a table and ask quickly for a drink order. Quick egress.

Skyfall update: Went in a different night. Half a dozen girls shuffling (2 do-able, the rest not), bunch of customers. Quick egress.

XS bar, 10 pm: 100+ girls, with about 30 sitting outside. Walking in, two Korean fellas were walking out with what appeared to be 5 XS barfined gals. On stage were what appeared to be about 30 girls in body paint. Closer inspection showed the paint to be colored tape. Still looks neat, and the girls aren't wearing any top or bra, so it appears like the old Las Vegas body paint. There was a girl on stage who did the aerial dance with the long fabric material hanging from the ceiling, wrapping it around herself to hoist herself in the air (pretty good show). Another dance troup took over and did the Korean Momoland BoomBoom song with their dance routine; good spotlight dancing. Then they called all the girls on stage for some shuffling (a mass of 100 or more girls). A Korean guy made it rain dozens of p20's on the stage and that lit the place up. Good overall entertainment. Girls are relatively attractive and festive. In fact, considering the large number of girls, there are quite a few girls in every look category (6's to 8's, rough guess). Barfine: 4 k ST, 5 k LT, LD = p350. XS is the newer Atlantis with lots of girls and multiple types of stage entertainment.

Baccara bar, 9-10 pm: 7 girls upstairs, 16 girls downstairs on stage. 4 chubs, 3 fuglies. The rest were attractive. Its a bit of a fishbowl place. The waitress and another guy with laser pointers were pushy trying to get me to call a girl down for LD. I was the only gringo, 4 Korean customers. ST = 4500, LT = 5000, LD = p350. At times the girls were dancing, other times shuffling.

Vikings bar, late afternoon: Too many girls to count. About half are attractive enough, 7's or better. Should be able even for picky fellas to find a spinner or better. Unfortunately that also means half of the girls are 6's or less. There is good music and a good vib here.

Body Shop (Real St): I poked my head into the curtain night after night, there were no customers 4 nights, and 1 customer a fifth night. At no time were the girls on the stage dancing or shuffling. They just stand there. Night-depending, there were from 3-8 girls visible. I walked in one night (the only customer) and had a quiet drink along the wall. The bikini girls (usually two 7's, do-able, and 3-4 fuglies) never danced. The other times there was only 1 do-able girl (one night 1 do-able and 4 NO THANK YOU). They stand with arms crossed. The waitresses were chatty. I am curious how they stay in business. I'd like to say the rain had effed everything up (to some degree yes), but the WS bars were full of regular fellas after dark.

Body Shop update: BS is closed on Sundays. On my last night (mid-week) about 9 pm I was going to walk in just to look, but the bar was completely closed, lights off, door locked. Guessing its either out of biz or about to be. Anyone in AC currently please check to see if BS is still closed.

Also there are clearly more fellas on WS in the evenings as compared to my visit mid-late last year (I posted pics of WS back then, around midnight, nearly empty on a weekend night), even with the LPA non-stop rain. NS said there was a 20-1 ratio favoring Koreans over others, and I will dispute that. I took a stroll down WS one evening about 8 pm, just to get an idea of the ratio. I sat down on the curb with several massage girls, just watching the foot traffic. I will estimate that asian gents to non-asian fellas ratio is 2-1 (or a bit more). Geezers unite!

Same caveat: Whatever I saw and reported, and additionally whatever another fella saw and reported. These things change constantly in every bar. A shift change, every 30-ish minutes, means the 15 cuties on the stage need to rest their shuffling feeties, and they might be replaced by 15 so-so or fuglies. Alternately several cuties barfine in a short span of time, and the mama throws up chubby replacements. In addition, girls quit and new girls get hired. The scenery changes often / regularly, so take with a grain of salt what is reported here. Two different fellas can see a very different lineup just 30 minutes apart. I would like to say that there is a playbook to go by here, but the only constant is the constant change.

I have at least one more WS report coming.

Once again: Come, experience the place for yourself. Make it your last visit if you think its that bad and get yourself to BKK. And do file a report.

[Member #4794]

Atlantis: Went in several evenings. Gone are the days of 50-80 girls on the lower stage and upper balcony. First night there were 18 girls shuffling downstairs, and 9 standing on the rails upstairs. There were several customers, old geezers and a chinese guy, and absolutely no excitement. How spoiled we were with the girl who used to do a "substance" before her show and dance at 200% speed at Atlantis. I really miss the Tropix vibe where the girls would do the show for the other girls even if their weren't any customers. It was lively. I think maybe the koreans don't really know how to motivate these girls due to the language barrier. The girls really don't respect the korean handlers and the koreans don't really give a shit about the girls so its a vicious cycle. Some of these korean bar owners are open to suggestions but in their defense if they do make the shows more lively they sometimes get raided for it. It used to be fun to just sit and drink, I would even order food in on occasion and eat with the girls in the bar in Atlantis, Crystal Palace and Tropix and just have a good time. Has anyone seen a snack vendor are these just totally gone? This has turned a level too sleezy. I think the bars also make a lot less this way as well. I guess in retrospect things really have deteriorated.

[Old And Ugly]

I'm currently looking for some tips and recommendations from those who are familiar with the scene in AC. I am planning a monthly stay in the city and I'm on the lookout for a modern and reasonably priced condo. If you guys have any suggestions or recommendations on where to start my search, I would appreciate the input. Whether it's a specific neighborhood, real estate websites, or any local tips you might have.Dr A condosuites on 3rd st and see ave.

[Sailor Jack]

Saturday at 4 pm Sailor Jack attended a Philippine cultural event.

Act 1 was a solo Filipina masturbating on stage with a full opened San Miguel Light beer bottle. Calorie-conscious SanMigLightGirl rubbed the bottle all over her pookie, alternating between inserting the open full beer bottle in her shaved clam, taking sips from the bottle, and pouring some of the beer over her body. SanMigLightGirl gradually worked herself into a squirting climax that sprayed audience members in the front row (Sailor Jack was in row two eating Pad Thai). A lucky long-haired monger in the front row used the ample spray to slick back his long hair. As she exited the stage, SanMigLightGirl gave the beer bottle and the last few sips of beer to another guy in the front row, and yes, the monger drank it with gusto. A dutiful Filippino employee appeared from the back to mop the stage to insure good traction for the next act (Hey a Filipino Swabbie!).

Act 2 was an on-stage three-girl lesbian strap-on fucking performance including a hot Overbite spinner, an average looking Lesbo, and a BullDike waitress who fortunately stayed clothed. Naked Overbite was laid on her back resting in BullDike's arms while naked Lesbo spread Overbite's legs wide for the audience. Then Lesbo gave everyone a long lesson in proper cunnilingus technique. Overbite was in dreamland and Lesbo and BullDike rotated the action a bit so all audience members could get a good long look. Then BullDike maneuvered little Overbite into doggy style and BullDike cinched up the strap on. Lesbo laid on her back, grabbed Overbite by her thick black hair, and forced Overbite's head into Lesbo's crotch. BullDike began a slow but steady strap on doggy-style pounding to Overbite, increasing the tempo and the force as they went. The three achieved a back-and-forth rhythmic symphony of strap on doggy-style fucking and lesbian licking that was an artistic joy to behold. The lesbian threesome reached a climatic crescendo with both Overbite and Lesbo shrieking in delight. Lesbo stood, bowed to the audience, and pranced off stage right while Dildo-er carried Dildo-ee's limp body off stage left. There was not a dry eye in the house, especially in the front row.

Act 3 was a standard solo strip tease by a hot tall thin Filipina who got snapped up at the end of her performance before Sailor Jack could get to her. All in all, it was a fitting ending to a fulfilling cultural afternoon. Sailor Jack decided to skip the evening fashion show at the chain-smoker show bar.

At this Filipino rendition of Swan Lake picture taking was not allowed, as you would expect, to protect the artistic integrity of the performing artists.

The above performance occurred in March 2024. Sailor Jack did attend the show again 08/12/2023 and an updated report will be forthcoming.

Image; unrelated from SJ Archive. Damn, those nipples were great!

[Lou32]

Cormac McCarthy breaks every grammar and punctuation rule and sometimes doesn't finish a sentence and sometimes doesn't put a period for a whole page. And is a genius.

Stephen King wrote a book where the characters in the book became aware that they were characters in a book and that they had to save Stephen King from getting hit by a car so they could survive. He also wrote a book where he would jump 30 years into the future or past in the middle of a sentence by simply starting a new paragraph, with no punctuation indicating such.

Brilliant authors follow no rules. Anyway we're off topic.I will pick up a trumpet and randomly play notes on the instrument because it seems to me that is all that Miles Davis did so basically me and Miles Davis are musical geniuses and it makes perfect sense to compare me and Miles Daviis because we both break the rules like geniuses do. / s.

[LoneRangers]

I will pick up a trumpet and randomly play notes on the instrument because it seems to me that is all that Miles Davis did so basically me and Miles Davis are musical geniuses and it makes perfect sense to compare me and Miles Daviis because we both break the rules like geniuses do. / s.Is thus the hill you want to die on? If everyone seems to enjoy his posts, maybe it's you.

[Expat American]

Saturday at 4 pm Sailor Jack attended a Philippine cultural event.

Act 1 was a solo Filipina masturbating on stage with a full opened San Miguel Light beer bottle. Calorie-conscious SanMigLightGirl rubbed the bottle all over her pookie, alternating between inserting the open full beer bottle in her shaved clam, taking sips from the bottle, and pouring some of the beer over her body. SanMigLightGirl gradually worked herself into a squirting climax that sprayed audience members in the front row (Sailor Jack was in row two eating Pad Thai). A lucky long-haired monger in the front row used the ample spray to slick back his long hair. As she exited the stage, SanMigLightGirl gave the beer bottle and the last few sips of beer to another guy in the front row, and yes, the monger drank it with gusto. A dutiful Filippino employee appeared from the back to mop the stage to insure good traction for the next act (Hey a Filipino Swabbie!).

Act 2 was an on-stage three-girl lesbian strap-on fucking performance including a hot Overbite spinner, an average looking Lesbo, and a BullDike waitress who fortunately stayed clothed. Naked Overbite was laid on her back resting in BullDike's arms while naked Lesbo spread Overbite's legs wide for the audience. Then Lesbo gave everyone a long lesson in proper cunnilingus technique. Overbite was in dreamland and Lesbo and BullDike rotated the action a bit so all audience members could get a good long look. Then BullDike maneuvered little Overbite into doggy style and BullDike cinched up the strap on. Lesbo laid on her back, grabbed Overbite by her thick black hair, and forced Overbite's head into Lesbo's crotch. BullDike began a slow but steady strap on doggy-style pounding to Overbite, increasing the tempo and the force as they went. The three achieved a back-and-forth rhythmic symphony of strap on doggy-style fucking and lesbian licking that was an artistic joy to behold. The lesbian threesome reached a climatic crescendo with both Overbite and Lesbo shrieking in delight. Lesbo stood, bowed to the audience, and pranced off stage right while Dildo-er carried Dildo-ee's limp body off stage left. There was not a dry eye in the house, especially in the front row.

Act 3 was a standard solo strip tease by a hot tall thin Filipina who got snapped up at the end of her performance before Sailor Jack could get to her. All in all, it was a fitting ending to a fulfilling cultural afternoon. Sailor Jack decided to skip the evening fashion show at the chain-smoker show bar.

At this Filipino rendition of Swan Lake picture taking was not allowed, as you would expect, to protect the artistic integrity of the performing artists.

The above performance occurred in March 2024. Sailor Jack did attend the show again 08/12/2023 and an updated report will be forthcoming.

Image; unrelated from SJ Archive. Damn, those nipples were great!Did Sailor Jack find the time machine from Back to the Future and go back to 2004 in a Delorean? I haven't seen that kind of fun in an AC bar since almost 10 years!

[Member #4794]

Did Sailor Jack find the time machine from Back to the Future and go back to 2004 in a Delorean? I haven't seen that kind of fun in an AC bar since almost 10 years!"Wait A Minute, Doc. Are You Telling Me You Built A Time Machine. Out Of A DeLorean?

If smells like a duck its a duck.

[Lou32]

Is thus the hill you want to die on? If everyone seems to enjoy his posts, maybe it's you.I don't base what I consider bad writing on what some barstool warmers hanging out at Margarita Station thinks is great writing. I also have done nothing to stop anyone else from enjoying his or anyone else's posts. Only a few guys are willing to speak up since most guys are afraid of what other guys think of them. And I didn't bring this back up again...just responding to the direct comment.

[Member #4794]

I don't base what I consider bad writing on what some barstool warmers hanging out at Margarita Station thinks is great writing.IMO is just sounds like what they call in the philippines a "mongoloid" wrote it. Its kind of like when you are walking in the barangay and the "kid on the spectrum" makes a lude joke you don't know if you should laugh or scold him. (almost every barangay in the province has a mascot).

JUDJUD see KIKI then JUDJUD say to KIKI "see my titi KIKI? KIKI like my titi?" JUDJUD looks happy when JUDJUD tell KIKI about JUDJUD titi JUDJUD likes KIKI.

Sailor Jack may be woefully unaware that it comes off like this. "kids on the spectrum" are also perplexed with why no one sees the humor in their "jokes" Other than that LOL nothing wrong with the posts.

[Jarango]

I will pick up a trumpet and randomly play notes on the instrument because it seems to me that is all that Miles Davis did so basically me and Miles Davis are musical geniuses and it makes perfect sense to compare me and Miles Daviis because we both break the rules like geniuses do. / s.I had to google Miles Davis, even though I like a little jazz.

Perhaps posts should be submitted on a form with several headings and 200 words max on the woman's details and star rating. Compared to trip advisor or reddit, it falls short in a number of ways.

Many contributors do their best and many think they are great guys because they can hire a hooker. They strut their stuff as best they can.

I read a lot of travel reports and similar stuff elsewhere. The problem is much of it is copy and paste or it take cages to get to the point, where thee is a point. Take a simple thing on how to travel light. All kinds of folks writing on it and taking forever to get to what should be a simple point.

I find, in the bars, most guys I speak to cut off conversations reasonably quickly as we are there for other things, much like farms at a cattle fair.

[D Cups]

Is thus the hill you want to die on? If everyone seems to enjoy his posts, maybe it's you.Concur. All these digs at Sailor Jack what a waste. Just ignore his posts if you don't like his writing style, fellas. Sheesh. I doubt there are any Pulitzers on ISG.

[WestCoast1]

I had to google Miles Davis, even though I like a little jazz.Not a jazz guy, but with respect to MD and any of us mongoloids, back to the bar biz.

Re: NS, DG, Lollipop bar.

NS: "With respect we have been over this countless times, lollipop bar does not have 2 types of bikini colour deplicting the girls price, all girls are 4,000 peso, how do I know this I have been in lollipop bar countless times over the last few weeks / months and was last there 2 nights ago, as pointed out before, the bar owner, the manager, the mama, the girls all confirm the bikini colours mean nothing and all girls are 4,000 peso, hell most nights many girls are wearing white, blue yellow and any other colour bikini in lollipop bar".

Just to check this two-colored bikini uniform thing, I waltzed in about 8 pm recently. The place was jumping. All the girls on stage were shaking it (that later slowed down). There were about 12 black bikinis, and one white bikini on stage. A few other black or white bikini'd girls were sitting with customers. As the waitress (#1) brought my rum / coke, I inquired as to the barfine price. "4000 barfine sir". I see. For any girl? "No sir. Spotlight dancers is 4000. All other is regular dancer is three-five". I see. How can I tell which is a spotlight girl? "Black uniform is spotlight". I see. So the white bikini girl can barfine for 3500? "Yes sir. Also any of our waitress can barfine 3500". Thanks sweetie.

I was enjoying the ass-shaking, the girls seemed happy. Looking about, I didn't see a single asian customer in the place. Just geezers older than me. I appeared to be the youngest senior citizen in the room. Turning my attention back to the dancers, I found all of them to be under 30 and attractive. They were all '7's and an '8'. Many spinners, no fuglies. 10-15 girls on stage at a time. I would have done any of them (and possibly two at a time). I nursed my drink for about 40 minutes. At some point, the stage-happiness died down, and the shuffing was in place. Departed with my cool ISG intel and some pep in my step (earlier in my day was a double-pop).

A few days later I stopped in about 4-5 pm, with a mate. There were only a few other customers at the time. This time the bikinis were either black (half the girls), and on the rest of the girls they were red bikinis. Again an attractive group of about 12-15 girls. There was exactly one that I would not have been willing to do (she was both a touch pudgy, and a butter-face). As the waitress (#2, different from the previous waitress) put our drinks on the table, I again inquired as to barfine prices. "Sir its 4000 for the black and 3500 for the red". I see, and why is that? She pushed her hands down her sides, across her hips. "Sir the black is more better guapa". More pretty? "Yes sir". I see. Except I didn't see. If there was a difference between the figures of the girls in black and the girls in red, I didn't see it. I asked my mate if there was a difference. "Maybe. Its hard to tell". My mate called a black-bikini gal down (tiny, cute as can be, and bubbly) for a drink. Over the loud music I leaned in close and asked her the barfine amount. "Its 4000 for me because I am spotlight. Black uniform. The red is three-five". Thanks, sweetie, your the cat's meow (and other stuff, too). After the drink my mate and I departed for another bar up the street.

Another night I went back into Lollipop about 10-11 pm alone. A packed house again and jumping. I made a walk about the place, with a waitress (#3, different waitress) in tow who kept trying to find me a seat. Finally I got a seat and asked for my rum / coke. Same routine with the waitress when I asked the barfine amount. Response: 4000 for spotlight black bikini, 3500 for regular white. I asked why yesterday some were red bikinis, and today some were white. Apparently the regular p3500 girls rotate non-black bikini colors, but black is black and more expensive (once you go black, you can never. . .). Again I didn't see the difference between the black and white bikini girls regarding beauty. I asked this waitress: Is the 4000 for LT, and 3500 for ST? "No sir. Its up to the girl. You ask the girl before you barfine sir. She will tell if long time or short time when you ask". So a regular p3500 dancer might be LT or ST, and spotlight p4000 dancer might be LT or ST? "Yes sir". There were 2 korean guys sitting together at a table, everyone else was geezer. The koreans were not being fawned over by the girls, they were simply lost in conversation with each other and ignoring the girls. There were only 2 white-bikini girls, one dancing on stage and another along the bench enjoying a LD with a guy. The other dozen+ were black bikinis. Just guessing that the cheaper 3500 girls barfine at a faster rate than the more expensive black bikini girls; hence fewer cheaper bikinis later into the evening.

Went in another evening about 9 pm with two buddies. One asked the waitress how much the barfine. P4000 black, p3500 red. Place was full, no asian customers. Of the 6-7 red bikinis, 4 of them were a bit chubby. It was the only time I saw that many NO THANKS gals, and there were still 9 do-able girls on stage.

Went into Lollipop again to enjoy the view (alone or with a buddy). Its a fun bar. Most times I went in there was this one specific pudgy girl in white or red. Other than her and the night with 4 chubs (she was one of them), it was rare that I saw another Lollipop girl that would look bad on your arm (or other body part). All drinks are priced p90 (or 95) before 6 pm (that's good intel for you cheaper-than-me fellas). Had a drink there with a mate during happy hour and he bought a LD for a black bikini. His drink total was p280, which means the LD was at that time about p190 (possibly a happy hour LD price). Its my opinion that if you want to see a dozen or so attractive girls at almost anytime, Lolli is a good place to do it. One day when I went in the late afternoon, I sat along the wall to the left (when entering the door). All 15-ish girls were facing the opposite wall, away from me. A lovely sight. Them's a bunch of solid nice figures from behind, some phine-ass phannies shakin' about the place. That's my Lollipop story and I am sticking to it.

Regarding the barfine amount, I would encourage anyone to just drop in, once-over the talent, and ask any waitress or GRO the barfine amounts. Multiple waitresses and a gogo dancer said the same split-level amounts (and mentioned black spotlight uniforms vs other colors) over the course of almost 2 weeks. They can't all be wrong. It seems inconceivable, but NS is it possible that you have confused Lollipop with another bar? Its next door to Gecko's on WS. Another explanation is that NS is hitting the Lolli later in the evening, and on those nights the cheaper girls (p3500, non-black bikini) have all been barfined; hence he only sees the black bikinis and hears one barfine price? The first waitress originally told me p4000; if I hadn't inquired further, she might not have coughed up the lower-priced p3500 info.

[FuriousGeorge]

Now this sounds like an accurate report and has been my experience with Lollipop. Probably my favorite bar. I don't pick a girl based on bikini color. We're talking less than 10 bucks and I've never had a bad experience with a girl there. No LT / ST negotiation. Hell I don't even care about that. No condom talk. I'll be back for another month but sadly will have to wait until December.

Also, you fellas need to read more books. SJ's posts are very clearly finely crafted and if he's on the spectrum it's the part of the spectrum with Will Hunting.


Not a jazz guy, but with respect to MD and any of us mongoloids, back to the bar biz.

Re: NS, DG, Lollipop bar.

[NapaSlapper]

Did Sailor Jack find the time machine from Back to the Future and go back to 2004 in a Delorean? I haven't seen that kind of fun in an AC bar since almost 10 years!Have to fully agree.

Bars are gettjng raided and closed down in angeles for showing a glimse of a bare breast and now we have claims of girls totally naked inserting bottles into their pussy.

The mind boggles at some of the claims, it really does.

[NapaSlapper]

Not a jazz guy, but with respect to MD and any of us mongoloids, back to the bar biz.

Re: NS, DG, Lollipop bar.

NS: "With respect we have been over this countless times, lollipop bar does not have 2 types of bikini colour deplicting the girls price, all girls are 4,000 peso, how do I know this I have been in lollipop bar countless times over the last few weeks / months and was last there 2 nights ago, as pointed out before, the bar owner, the manager, the mama, the girls all confirm the bikini colours mean nothing and all girls are 4,000 peso, hell most nights many girls are wearing white, blue yellow and any other colour bikini in lollipop bar".

Just to check this two-colored bikini uniform thing, I waltzed in about 8 pm recently. The place was jumping. All the girls on stage were shaking it (that later slowed down). There were about 12 black bikinis, and one white bikini on stage. A few other black or white bikini'd girls were sitting with customers. As the waitress (#1) brought my rum / coke, I inquired as to the barfine price. "4000 barfine sir". I see. For any girl? "No sir. Spotlight dancers is 4000. All other is regular dancer is three-five". I see. How can I tell which is a spotlight girl? "Black uniform is spotlight". I see. So the white bikini girl can barfine for 3500? "Yes sir. Also any of our waitress can barfine 3500". Thanks sweetie.

I was enjoying the ass-shaking, the girls seemed happy. Looking about, I didn't see a single asian customer in the place. Just geezers older than me. I appeared to be the youngest senior citizen in the room. Turning my attention back to the dancers, I found all of them to be under 30 and attractive. They were all '7's and an '8'. Many spinners, no fuglies. 10-15 girls on stage at a time. I would have done any of them (and possibly two at a time). I nursed my drink for about 40 minutes. At some point, the stage-happiness died down, and the shuffing was in place. Departed with my cool ISG intel and some pep in my step (earlier in my day was a double-pop).

A few days later I stopped in about 4-5 pm, with a mate. There were only a few other customers at the time. This time the bikinis were either black (half the girls), and on the rest of the girls they were red bikinis. Again an attractive group of about 12-15 girls. There was exactly one that I would not have been willing to do (she was both a touch pudgy, and a butter-face). As the waitress (#2, different from the previous waitress) put our drinks on the table, I again inquired as to barfine prices. "Sir its 4000 for the black and 3500 for the red". I see, and why is that? She pushed her hands down her sides, across her hips. "Sir the black is more better guapa". More pretty? "Yes sir". I see. Except I didn't see. If there was a difference between the figures of the girls in black and the girls in red, I didn't see it. I asked my mate if there was a difference. "Maybe. Its hard to tell". My mate called a black-bikini gal down (tiny, cute as can be, and bubbly) for a drink. Over the loud music I leaned in close and asked her the barfine amount. "Its 4000 for me because I am spotlight. Black uniform. The red is three-five". Thanks, sweetie, your the cat's meow (and other stuff, too). After the drink my mate and I departed for another bar up the street.

Another night I went back into Lollipop about 10-11 pm alone. A packed house again and jumping. I made a walk about the place, with a waitress (#3, different waitress) in tow who kept trying to find me a seat. Finally I got a seat and asked for my rum / coke. Same routine with the waitress when I asked the barfine amount. Response: 4000 for spotlight black bikini, 3500 for regular white. I asked why yesterday some were red bikinis, and today some were white. Apparently the regular p3500 girls rotate non-black bikini colors, but black is black and more expensive (once you go black, you can never. . .). Again I didn't see the difference between the black and white bikini girls regarding beauty. I asked this waitress: Is the 4000 for LT, and 3500 for ST? "No sir. Its up to the girl. You ask the girl before you barfine sir. She will tell if long time or short time when you ask". So a regular p3500 dancer might be LT or ST, and spotlight p4000 dancer might be LT or ST? "Yes sir". There were 2 korean guys sitting together at a table, everyone else was geezer. The koreans were not being fawned over by the girls, they were simply lost in conversation with each other and ignoring the girls. There were only 2 white-bikini girls, one dancing on stage and another along the bench enjoying a LD with a guy. The other dozen+ were black bikinis. Just guessing that the cheaper 3500 girls barfine at a faster rate than the more expensive black bikini girls; hence fewer cheaper bikinis later into the evening.

Went in another evening about 9 pm with two buddies. One asked the waitress how much the barfine. P4000 black, p3500 red. Place was full, no asian customers. Of the 6-7 red bikinis, 4 of them were a bit chubby. It was the only time I saw that many NO THANKS gals, and there were still 9 do-able girls on stage.

Went into Lollipop again to enjoy the view (alone or with a buddy). Its a fun bar. Most times I went in there was this one specific pudgy girl in white or red. Other than her and the night with 4 chubs (she was one of them), it was rare that I saw another Lollipop girl that would look bad on your arm (or other body part). All drinks are priced p90 (or 95) before 6 pm (that's good intel for you cheaper-than-me fellas). Had a drink there with a mate during happy hour and he bought a LD for a black bikini. His drink total was p280, which means the LD was at that time about p190 (possibly a happy hour LD price). Its my opinion that if you want to see a dozen or so attractive girls at almost anytime, Lolli is a good place to do it. One day when I went in the late afternoon, I sat along the wall to the left (when entering the door). All 15-ish girls were facing the opposite wall, away from me. A lovely sight. Them's a bunch of solid nice figures from behind, some phine-ass phannies shakin' about the place. That's my Lollipop story and I am sticking to it.

Regarding the barfine amount, I would encourage anyone to just drop in, once-over the talent, and ask any waitress or GRO the barfine amounts. Multiple waitresses and a gogo dancer said the same split-level amounts (and mentioned black spotlight uniforms vs other colors) over the course of almost 2 weeks. They can't all be wrong. It seems inconceivable, but NS is it possible that you have confused Lollipop with another bar? Its next door to Gecko's on WS. Another explanation is that NS is hitting the Lolli later in the evening, and on those nights the cheaper girls (p3500, non-black bikini) have all been barfined; hence he only sees the black bikinis and hears one barfine price? The first waitress originally told me p4000; if I hadn't inquired further, she might not have coughed up the lower-priced p3500 info.Dear westy, thanks for your reports, they have been a good read.

As far as lollipop bar, all the talk of different colour bikinis is old news now as reported in my more recent visits than yours, the girls are all in white t backs now as reported in my last two recent barhops.

This was still the case in lollipop bar as of last nights barhop, did not ask if the barfine price had changed as neither myself or any of my drinking buddies saw anything that was even worth buying a drink for let alone asking the girls barfine price.

As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what one thinks is a princess others might think is a no thank you mam even for free.

Be very boring if we all liked the same kind of girls.

Thanks again for sharing your views westy.

[NapaSlapper]

Did Sailor Jack find the time machine from Back to the Future and go back to 2004 in a Delorean? I haven't seen that kind of fun in an AC bar since almost 10 years!Have to fully agree.

Bars are gettjng raided and closed down in angeles for showing a glimse of a bare breast and now we have claims of girls totally naked inserting bottles into their pussy.

The mind boggles at some of the claims, it really does.

[Dg8787]

Obviously for you to not know the answer to how easy it is to score in other asian destinations you obviously have never visited any.

Just to help you out a bit try for starters.

Thailand, Bangkok, pattaya, chiang mai and most every other city in thailand.

Cambodia, phnom penh, sihanoukville.

Indonesia, Jakarta, surabaya, bali to name just a few.

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City, nha trang, dha nang, hanoi and many other areas.

Myanmar, yangon, mandalay, mong la and many more cities.

Laos, vientiane,Sure professor please educate me.

Sorry for my late reply. I have been busy in BKK and SIN for a week.

Then I have been busy with my company making dollars. Not pesos.

FYI. I pay more attention to doers than educators. More attention to participants than spectators.

[Parkx239]

I pretty new to mongering. This question may sound stupid to the experienced, but If any experienced monger can give me insight. I'm forever indebted to him.

Say if you chatted a girl either on pinalove or date in asia, and you agreed to meet a girl at a hotel for a massage or short (fun) time for certain peso.

Do you usually pay the peso before the service or after?

Do you usually chit-chat first before to break the ice? Or do you get right to it?

How do you initiate the whole thing?

Do you have her undress, or do you undress her yourself?

I'm just really new to this game, and I really don't know.

I just want to see the general flow of it. How it flows.

It's a bunch of stupid questions.

Could anyone teach me (either private message, how you guys do it).

Damn I feel stupid.

[DzikaBomba]

I pretty new to mongering. This question may sound stupid to the experienced, but If any experienced monger can give me insight. I'm forever indebted to him.

Say if you chatted a girl either on pinalove or date in asia, and you agreed to meet a girl at a hotel for a massage or short (fun) time for certain peso.

Do you usually pay the peso before the service or after?

Do you usually chit-chat first before to break the ice? Or do you get right to it?

How do you initiate the whole thing?

Do you have her undress, or do you undress her yourself?

I'm just really new to this game, and I really don't know.

I just want to see the general flow of it. How it flows.Are you only new to mongering or also new to having sex?

[Aml3740]

I pretty new to mongering. This question may sound stupid to the experienced, but If any experienced monger can give me insight. I'm forever indebted to him.

Say if you chatted a girl either on pinalove or date in asia, and you agreed to meet a girl at a hotel for a massage or short (fun) time for certain peso.

Do you usually pay the peso before the service or after?

Do you usually chit-chat first before to break the ice? Or do you get right to it?

How do you initiate the whole thing?

Do you have her undress, or do you undress her yourself?

I'm just really new to this game, and I really don't know.

I just want to see the general flow of it. How it flows.

It's a bunch of stupid questions.

Could anyone teach me (either private message, how you guys do it).

Damn I feel stupid.It isn't a stupid question. Everyone is new at one time or another. The answer really depends on how you met your girl and what you have talked about.

Escorts or any call girl service usually ask for payment upfront, in my experience. The girl comes in, you pay, she showers and comes out in a towel (or nothing at all), and fun starts.

If you met online in a dating app or something, and you talked about meeting for sex and payment, it is more like a casual date. Sit down, chit chat for a few minutes, flirt and touch, and see what happens. Or, if you agreed to short time, she may just want to shower and get it on. Don't pay upfront. There is nothing stopping her from taking your money and providing poor service or, at the worst, running out the door with it. An escort agency provides accountability that isn't there with freelancers.

If you have just been chatting and haven't talked about sex or money, but she is coming to your hotel room, you will most likely end up in the bed with her. Just play it like a normal date. Talk with her, laugh, touch her nicely and see what happens. Have 3-5 k with you in case she asks for payment afterwards, and she may. I personally always pay, even if she doesn't ask or objects, just to keep the line between fun and a relationship there. Even then, I don't think pinay always understand that.

One final note, escorts will usually bring and require condom use. Dating site or regular girls never have condoms and usually won't ask you for one. If using a condom is something that is important for you, have them with you already. If condoms aren't important for you, then don't worry about it. I've had one woman (an escort) ask me to use a condom there. No other girl did. I've always had to bring up using a condom if I wanted to use one.

[Member #4794]

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Say if you chatted a girl either on pinalove or date in asia, and you agreed to meet a girl at a hotel for a massage or short (fun) time for certain peso.

Do you usually pay the peso before the service or after?

Do you usually chit-chat first before to break the ice? Or do you get right to it?

How do you initiate the whole thing?

Do you have her undress, or do you undress her yourself?

I'm just really new to this game, and I really don't know.

I just want to see the general flow of it. How it flows.

It's a bunch of stupid questions.

Could anyone teach me (either private message, how you guys do it).

Damn I feel stupid.You set yourself up to be the ass end of a joke here but I have turned over a new leaf given that the Madagascar section of this forum is so F%ing unfriendly I have searched my soul and found that shitting on people really doesn't accomplish anything. So here you are.

You see a girls photo or meet a girl you want to have sex with, so it begins.

In private messages you keep it light and talk about meeting her spending time with her alone one-on-one. Don't meet outside the hotel room don't meet and eat food. Meeting at the hotel room only has ONE meaning. Any sensible pinay will understand what she is getting her self into if she doesn't want to meet at the hotel find another one that will.

If you want to make sure she's game breach sex by asking about relationships and then ask if sex is something she enjoys in a relationship. If she says she won't have sex then delete that one a find one that is not a dick tease.

You want to find a girl that is open to doing whatever you want and one that's hungry. Pinays are super EASY, so all you need to do is ask "Can I kiss you when we meet?" She has to say "yes" to this and then you ask "How about more than a kiss?" to which she SHOULD reply "I don't know its up to you lang".

You can hint at if she is with you she will get compensated (you may not need to do this) you don't want to say how much so you don't rip yourself off.

You do not pay a freelancer before the act EVER.

Normally this is how a session will go, you meet at your hotel or a sogo hotel.

You have to hug her when she comes into the room this is not optional for you. You then talk to her for about 60 seconds asking about her trip there and then you kiss her and the mandatory grope / half undress session. After both of your panties are soaked. You then take a shower bring your pants (w / your wallet in it or store it in the hotel safe if you are in your own room) IN the bathroom with you. The girl goes next or vice versa. Make sure you knocked that that musky smell off your nuts and don't get dressed again you are going to have sex dood leave the towel on or come out like a maniac buck naked this is up to you. You start by asking if she is nervous if she says yes then say ok ill take is slow and kiss her nipples if not then rip that towel off and look at your spoils and dig in. Eat that pussy here this is optional then bring her in for a blow job or 69 and then get to the deed. Usually missionary to start then cowgirl then doggy and finish however you feel comfortable. After you are done she will bolt to the bathroom. Wash the filth off and you will feel that wave of instant regret its just your dopemine levels dropping like a rock don't be surprised if you shed a tear, its normal and its called post-coital dysphoria, happens with hookers for me personally but not so much in steady relationships, in any case it will pass in about 5 seconds and get ready for your next girl in a few hours Or go a few more rounds and maybe after that grab a bite to eat as you send her on her way with a few pesos and if you are sated some taxi money.

Your first girl you will have the urge to fuck this girl like 99 times over the course of your trip fight that urge with all your might and find another one. Trust me after you get that first nut off your brain chemistry will go back to normal and you will have a clear mind and pick a hotter chick. 9 times out of 10.

GLHF LFG!

[Parkx239]

Are you only new to mongering or also new to having sex?Both I missed out a lot on life LOL. Sad.

[WestCoast1]

You do not pay a freelancer before the act EVER.Always after in Phils. Only exceptions are escort services and gogo bars. Everyone else after.

Write us a report of your experiences and impressions after your trip.

[Parkx239]

You set yourself up to be the ass end of a joke here but I have turned over a new leaf given that the Madagascar section of this forum is so F%ing unfriendly I have searched my soul and found that shitting on people really doesn't accomplish anything. So here you are.

You see a girls photo or meet a girl you want to have sex with, so it begins.

In private messages you keep it light and talk about meeting her spending time with her alone one-on-one. Don't meet outside the hotel room don't meet and eat food. Meeting at the hotel room only has ONE meaning. Any sensible pinay will understand what she is getting her self into if she doesn't want to meet at the hotel find another one that will.

If you want to make sure she's game breach sex by asking about relationships and then ask if sex is something she enjoys in a relationship. If she says she won't have sex then delete that one a find one that is not a dick tease.

You want to find a girl that is open to doing whatever you want and one that's hungry. Pinays are super EASY, so all you need to do is ask "Can I kiss you when we meet?" She has to say "yes" to this and then you ask "How about more than a kiss?" to which she SHOULD reply "I don't know its up to you lang".

You can hint at if she is with you she will get compensated (you may not need to do this) you don't want to say how much so you don't rip yourself off.

You do not pay a freelancer before the act EVER.

Normally this is how a session will go, you meet at your hotel or a sogo hotel.

You have to hug her when she comes into the room this is not optional for you. You then talk to her for about 60 seconds asking about her trip there and then you kiss her and the mandatory grope / half undress session. After both of your panties are soaked. You then take a shower bring your pants (w / your wallet in it or store it in the hotel safe if you are in your own room) IN the bathroom with you. The girl goes next or vice versa. Make sure you knocked that that musky smell off your nuts and don't get dressed again you are going to have sex dood leave the towel on or come out like a maniac buck naked this is up to you. You start by asking if she is nervous if she says yes then say ok ill take is slow and kiss her nipples if not then rip that towel off and look at your spoils and dig in. Eat that pussy here this is optional then bring her in for a blow job or 69 and then get to the deed. Usually missionary to start then cowgirl then doggy and finish however you feel comfortable. After you are done she will bolt to the bathroom. Wash the filth off and you will feel that wave of instant regret its just your dopemine levels dropping like a rock don't be surprised if you shed a tear, its normal and its called post-coital dysphoria, happens with hookers for me personally but not so much in steady relationships, in any case it will pass in about 5 seconds and get ready for your next girl in a few hours Or go a few more rounds and maybe after that grab a bite to eat as you send her on her way with a few pesos and if you are sated some taxi money.

Your first girl you will have the urge to fuck this girl like 99 times over the course of your trip fight that urge with all your might and find another one. Trust me after you get that first nut off your brain chemistry will go back to normal and you will have a clear mind and pick a hotter chick. 9 times out of 10.

GLHF LFG!Thank you so much, Sir, for your kind answer. May God bless you for your kindness. .

Yea, I had really tough childhood and didn't have chance to learn this basic skill.

[Gennai]

This is one of the best posts I have read here for some time. Thank you for your kindness.


Thank you so much, Sir, for your kind answer. May God bless you for your kindness. .

Yea, I had really tough childhood and didn't have chance to learn this basic skill.

You set yourself up to be the ass end of a joke here but I have turned over a new leaf given that the Madagascar section of this forum is so F%ing unfriendly I have searched my soul and found that shitting on people really doesn't accomplish anything. So here you are.

You see a girls photo or meet a girl you want to have sex with, so it begins.

In private messages you keep it light and talk about meeting her spending time with her alone one-on-one. Don't meet outside the hotel room don't meet and eat food. Meeting at the hotel room only has ONE meaning. Any sensible pinay will understand what she is getting her self into if she doesn't want to meet at the hotel find another one that will.

If you want to make sure she's game breach sex by asking about relationships and then ask if sex is something she enjoys in a relationship. If she says she won't have sex then delete that one a find one that is not a dick tease.

[Dg8787]

Have to fully agree.

Bars are gettjng raided and closed down in angeles for showing a glimse of a bare breast and now we have claims of girls totally naked inserting bottles into their pussy.

The mind boggles at some of the claims, it really does.And what bars are those that have been raided and closed in the past year?

[TjBrazil]

Do you guys agree with this ex-pat in Manila. He says all the regular girls that he has dated, at some point, expect money from you to help out the family and the younger girlfriend. He says even if you avoid hookers, like he says he does, the topic of money will eventually come up. Do you feel in PI, you are a walking ATM, no matter what dating route you take.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXj4_RdyG8

[Jarango]

Do you guys agree with this ex-pat in Manila. He says all the regular girls that he has dated, at some point, expect money from you to help out the family and the younger girlfriend. He says even if you avoid hookers, like he says he does, the topic of money will eventually come up. Do you feel in PI, you are a walking ATM, no matter what dating route you take.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXj4_RdyG8I clicked on that guy's BS video and scrolled through it in about 2 seconds. Then I saw "Jasper" is offering one hour consultations. On f-g what? The Philippines is dirt poor and therefore hard. When I was leaving last time, I gave the hotel receptionists and the asshole at the door 1000 PHP between three of them. One of the babes who is on the to do list next time, thanked me and said that is a lot to them and so means a lot. It was FK all to me. They knew I was a straight shooter. Another evening there was a big woman's BS on with cosmetics so I opened my purse and bought about 2000 PHP worth for them. Some hooker took a selfie with me. I was the man. For peanuts.

Point here is Little League is leagues above these folks. I have fcked hookers who only cooked by charcoal, to poor to do otherwise. I have given ordinary women serious dough to get them out of holes (no sex and I was not duped) and have no regrets and only think of it because I am typing.

This guy is no Casanova. He is rightly seen as a water buffalo, as someone with $$. That is no disrespect to him but try living without FK all and see how you get on. One of my happiest memories from the Philippines was being in a cheap (but not totally cheap) Chinese restaurant and a nearby table was full of locals celebrating some family thing, a family graduation or whatever. They had a big bottle of coke (green tea was free) and that father was the proudest guy I ever saw. I felt like shaking that hero's hand, not an exaggeration as I did something similar in a war zone, putting $200 into a kid's hands as she celebrated a family affair I was privileged to glimpse. Even thinking back on that brings me more than $200 of joy,.

The ancient Greeks asked us to "know thyself". Never too late to begin.

Money. FFS. Mate of mine, his wife is gone back home to their house is Mudsville where the whole village was out to greet her and her sprogs. Life is much better there than here, except they have no indoor plumbing, no prospects and they are in the middle of a never ending war. Here she works for what we regard as peanuts and pays a fortune in rent "for the children". Cash flow!

They ask for money. So does a taxi driver. When he is not looking at the meter. Join the real world not the fantasy world.

[TjBrazil]

Park, when you have sex for the first time, you sound like you might be a virgin, keep the lights on, because there is a 50% chance you will hit the wrong hole.

[Mr Enternational]

Do you guys agree with this ex-pat in Manila. He says all the regular girls that he has dated, at some point, expect money from you to help out the family and the younger girlfriend. He says even if you avoid hookers, like he says he does, the topic of money will eventually come up. Do you feel in PI, you are a walking ATM, no matter what dating route you take.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXj4_RdyG8No. All is a strong word. Defintiely not all. And I do not know what they expect, but the number of chicks that will eventually ask for money for something is much higher than say Brazil where I have never had a chick that is not a hooker ask for money in over 20 years. I have said before that the Philippines is the Dominican Republic of the Pacific. Many traits are shared between both populations and a high percentage of regular chicks eventually asking for money is one of them.

But don't take it personally. I know a chick from the Dominican Republic that moved to the States and soon her family was begging for money from her as if she was not struggling herself. She eventually had to block them. I told her now you see how we feel huh? She said yep. They act like because we live somewhere else that somebody is handing out a bunch of free money to us. I like to thell them well Saturday is my day off, but would you like for me to go in and work 10 hours so that I will have money to send you? It sounds pretty ridiculous to them when you put it like that; that we do not just have a bunch of extra money laying around to send people.

[ThomasCasey]

That hasn't been my experience at all. I've generally targeted the girls who are genuinely looking for a boyfriend as opposed to the ones that want to immediately meet up with you after you say "Hi" online. Maybe I've lucked out when I'm pipelining. Definitely after getting comfortable, like you said, after a few months they may say they have some problem, but won't expressly ask for money, but clearly suggest it. I would say about 50% of the girls I talk to and spend time with never have brought it up once.


Do you guys agree with this ex-pat in Manila. He says all the regular girls that he has dated, at some point, expect money from you to help out the family and the younger girlfriend. He says even if you avoid hookers, like he says he does, the topic of money will eventually come up. Do you feel in PI, you are a walking ATM, no matter what dating route you take.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXj4_RdyG8

[Member #4794]

I clicked on that guy's BS video and scrolled through it in about 2 seconds. Then I saw "Jasper" is offering one hour consultations. On f-g what?"Jasper" is kind of a problem in itself. He likes to shit on Phils and make it seem complicated, hard to navigate and perilous, like he is the only one with the key to unlock the Philippines and all it will cost you is a consultation fee.

He makes these doom and gloom videos about how shit the Philippines is unless he is there to hold your hand. It is just the way he chooses to market himself. People hate that guy so much so he should keep as low profile as possible for his personal safety. Most of the Expat Phils youtubers are older guys so he tries his hardest to discredit them by making disparaging comments about old men. These videos really do harm the whole community and he passes around unfounded marketing that has nothing to do with the Philippines or its culture and everything to do with his limited myopic take on the Philippines.

He has no real understanding of the culture and tries to draw conclusions based on western culture, he tries his best to complicate it making something its not, scamming these guys into using his service.

[Aml3740]

I clicked on that guy's BS video and scrolled through it in about 2 seconds. Then I saw "Jasper" is offering one hour consultations. On f-g what? The Philippines is dirt poor and therefore hard. When I was leaving last time, I gave the hotel receptionists and the asshole at the door 1000 PHP between three of them. One of the babes who is on the to do list next time, thanked me and said that is a lot to them and so means a lot. It was FK all to me. They knew I was a straight shooter. Another evening there was a big woman's BS on with cosmetics so I opened my purse and bought about 2000 PHP worth for them. Some hooker took a selfie with me. I was the man. For peanuts.

Point here is Little League is leagues above these folks. I have fcked hookers who only cooked by charcoal, to poor to do otherwise. I have given ordinary women serious dough to get them out of holes (no sex and I was not duped) and have no regrets and only think of it because I am typing.

This guy is no Casanova. He is rightly seen as a water buffalo, as someone with $$. That is no disrespect to him but try living without FK all and see how you get on. One of my happiest memories from the Philippines was being in a cheap (but not totally cheap) Chinese restaurant and a nearby table was full of locals celebrating some family thing, a family graduation or whatever. They had a big bottle of coke (green tea was free) and that father was the proudest guy I ever saw. I felt like shaking that hero's hand, not an exaggeration as I did something similar in a war zone, putting $200 into a kid's hands as she celebrated a family affair I was privileged to glimpse. Even thinking back on that brings me more than $200 of joy,.

The ancient Greeks asked us to "know thyself". Never too late to begin.

Money. FFS. Mate of mine, his wife is gone back home to their house is Mudsville where the whole village was out to greet her and her sprogs. Life is much better there than here, except they have no indoor plumbing, no prospects and they are in the middle of a never ending war. Here she works for what we regard as peanuts and pays a fortune in rent "for the children". Cash flow!

They ask for money. So does a taxi driver. When he is not looking at the meter. Join the real world not the fantasy world.I totally agree with your take on this. I'm not rich by American standards. I work my tail off ten months a year and make decent money. But I live in an expensive place to make this money, have family I support in the US and in the Philippines. But still, I am far more blessed with money than most people in the Philippines. Most westerners (especially Americans) who go to the Philippines are not poor or else they would not be going there for vacation or to live. In the US, the absolute cheapest girl that is not a street walker, but works in an AMP, is about $250. An escort is usually $400 or higher. Most girls in PI who want money for sex are less than $100 US, or maybe slightly higher. That is already cheap.

I have one regular girl in Manila. I met her online as a freelancer, and we agreed on her price of 5 k for overnight. I'm sure I could have negotiated with her, but why would I? That is cheap for me. I saw her the next day for same deal. The last time she came before I left, she was shocked and embarrassed I wanted to pay her because she felt we had a relationship already. I sent her with some money anyway, and I told her I would help her to get her teeth fixed, which is about $350 because she has a lot of work and replacement to get. She says I'm the only one, but I'm not believing that. But it doesn't matter. She is a good person trying to help support her family, and helping her do that isn't really taking anything away from me.

I'll say this, too. If I think about it for value of my mongering dollars, the value is good. Three overnight stays, a chaste with sexy pictures and video calls, and for about $600 USD. That is a one hour visit with a mid-range escort where I live. And the sex with her is hands down the best I've ever had, and I think part of that is just because I'm generous. For me, it's worth it. It's also worth the extra 100 PHP I tip taxi drivers to see them smile, and worth the extra ice cream I buy for my kids and the kids in line behind me at Jollibee. Don't be taken advantage of, for sure, but do be generous. It really does come back to you.

[Old And Ugly]

Have to fully agree.

Bars are gettjng raided and closed down in angeles for showing a glimse of a bare breast and now we have claims of girls totally naked inserting bottles into their pussy.

The mind boggles at some of the claims, it really does.Sj is the best storyteller here. About the above show he's right, I've seen it too, and yes, what you're saying is also true, they got raided, closed down, then they reopened and have the same show again.

I have to add that I've seen topless. Tapeless shows in another bar also. Some girls know about them too, that's how I ended up there.

[Dg8787]

I totally agree with your take on this. I'm not rich by American standards. I work my tail off ten months a year and make decent money. But I live in an expensive place to make this money, have family I support in the US and in the Philippines. But still, I am far more blessed with money than most people in the Philippines. Most westerners (especially Americans) who go to the Philippines are not poor or else they would not be going there for vacation or to live. In the US, the absolute cheapest girl that is not a street walker, but works in an AMP, is about $250. An escort is usually $400 or higher. Most girls in PI who want money for sex are less than $100 US, or maybe slightly higher. That is already cheap.

I have one regular girl in Manila. I met her online as a freelancer, and we agreed on her price of 5 k for overnight. I'm sure I could have negotiated with her, but why would I? That is cheap for me. I saw her the next day for same deal. The last time she came before I left, she was shocked and embarrassed I wanted to pay her because she felt we had a relationship already. I sent her with some money anyway, and I told her I would help her to get her teeth fixed, which is about $350 because she has a lot of work and replacement to get. She says I'm the only one, but I'm not believing that. But it doesn't matter. She is a good person trying to help support her family, and helping her do that isn't really taking anything away from me..I applaud you guys for doing your part before the BS starts here. [Deleted by Admin]

[Mr Enternational]

In the US, the absolute cheapest girl that is not a street walker, but works in an AMP, is about $250. An escort is usually $400 or higher. Most girls in PI who want money for sex are less than $100 US, or maybe slightly higher. That is already cheap.Dude you are mixing and matching your argument. In the Amazon I was eating a fish plate for $2. 50. Down the street from my house in the States a fish plate is $15. I should conclude that in the USA fish plates are expensive?

You made your base about prices in one place then you brought in a totally different place to make a false conclusion about prices in that place. In fact in the Philippines $100 or slightly higher or lower would be very expensive for sex, not already cheap as you put it. Where are the average Filipino guys that are paying $100 for sex? There are none, because that is a ridiculous amount to pay for sex there.

[WestCoast1]

I wish everything you said was true but the government does hand out money in the states, Especially during Covid, which is the cause of all this inflation. Illegals are being put up in 5 star hotels in New York. Welfare is back to being for life since Obama took the work requirement out of welfare on day one. Our country is now in major decline. Homeless everywhere, rampant shoplifting. Jeff bezos worked at McDonald's and now teenagers think they are above those jobs and should make 30 an hour to start.Politics? Here? Please move this discussion to a relevant thread.

[Sailor Jack]

Sj is the best storyteller here. About the above show he's right, I've seen it too, and yes, what you're saying is also true, they got raided, closed down, then they reopened and have the same show again.

I have to add that I've seen topless. Tapeless shows in another bar also. Some girls know about them too, that's how I ended up there.ExpatPat?

Montana?

NonSense? (Sailor Jack took you off my Ignore List so SJ can read NoShow's latest rationalization).

Please explain to us why you Angeles City experts are ignorant of this?

And also include your photos from your most recent trip.

Images; Sailor Jack's nurse, Angela SnotRocket. Note the kitty cat collar with bell. ASR qualifies as a Slot and a Skinny. Ear photo provided for WestCoast1. ASR may become worthy of a dedicated future post, but only if ASR is no longer on the SJ active crew roster.

[WestCoast1]

Fortune favors the brave.

[NapaSlapper]

And what bars are those that have been raided and closed in the past year?Gold bar for starters, raided and closed more than once.

Maybe making a recent visit will have you up to speed with what's actually going on in angeles instead of relying on me for all your up to date info.

[NapaSlapper]

Sj is the best storyteller here. About the above show he's right, I've seen it too, and yes, what you're saying is also true, they got raided, closed down, then they reopened and have the same show again.

I have to add that I've seen topless. Tapeless shows in another bar also. Some girls know about them too, that's how I ended up there.Many bar owners over the years have tried to bend the angeles rule book on what's allowed, only to get raided and closed, each raid and closure cost big money to pay off the police to drop charges, to pay the girls / mamas / managers release fines from jail and to also pay to regain ones bar operational licenses.

In the current climate where western visitors to angeles are a very rare breed hardly a good business decision to try to bend the rules for a few moments view of a breast.

As far as story telling, if I wanted story telling I would have joined a dreamer and fantasists based board.

[WestCoast1]

Bars are gettjng raided and closed down in angeles for showing a glimse of a bare breast and now we have claims of girls totally naked inserting bottles into their pussy.
You made the claim.


And what bars are those that have been raided and closed in the past year?Its a fair question for visitors (including me), given NS' claim.


Gold bar for starters, raided and closed more than once.

Maybe making a recent visit will have you up to speed with what's actually going on in angeles instead of relying on me for all your up to date info.NS you have made yourself out to be an industry-insider (knowing mamas, owners, and waitresses; hitting the bars regularly with your Korean associates). The question was fair given your claim that bars have been closed. A few weeks ago Cosplay had been closed (the sign on the door indicated a sewage problem, not a raid).

[JordCo]

Whilst I haven't seen one for a while except for in a backstreet bar catering to Filipinos where they occasionally do naked pole dancing. Naked shows seem rare but possible in Angeles still. If the bar wants to do it.

Remember it's all illegal and naked girls on stage is less serious than the act of bar fining a girl. Which is done every night. It's just more blatant and an easier target for the local politicians.

A small Korean bar beginning with be was doing it when bars were back open after the pandemic. Black nipple paint but some pussies out. You can be sure that this is already cleared with whoever they are paying bribes to or they are ready for the issues it will bring. No one would be doing this whilst not knowing what to expect. They did actually get temporarily shut down in the weeks after it. Probably for delaying their payment and pushing their luck.

Everyone knows gold bar was closed. It was in the news. For having minors. You could have walked in there any night leading up to it and pointed out the 2 or 3 minors with relative ease. It was so obvious it was stupid. The fact they reopened after it means their late fees were paid and it was business as usual.

Most bars don't do it because it's just not worth it for them. Bribery fees much higher. And believe it or not they don't bring in the high spending customer that could make it worth their while. Mainly drink nursers who will watch the show and exit. Also the type of girl willing to do it these days might not make for a great show anyway. You're not going to get a 7 or 8 doing a sex show in front of everyone in a bar when it's far more lucrative to do at home in front of her camera.

[Parkx239]

I plan to stay in Angeles city around 2 month.

Is there any hotel you can recommend, cheap and affordable one.

I heard some hotels offer discounted rate for long term stay.

[WestCoast1]

I plan to stay in Angeles city around 2 month.

Is there any hotel you can recommend, cheap and affordable one.

I heard some hotels offer discounted rate for long term stay.Airbnb for condos, Agoda or Booking dot com for hotels. Most places offer a discount when you are 30 days or more. As an example, for less than one week, a residence might charge at $50 USD / night. For 28+ days (monthly rate) they might charge $40 / night.

Also you didn't specify what you mean by cheap / affordable. Is that $15 USD / night? $50/ night? $100/ night? Attached pics, from booking dot com, nightly rates:

1) Both places mid-$30's USD, close to the action.

2) Both places about $15, a KM away, requiring pesky transportation in trykes or jeeps (and its the rainy season).

[Drbombay]

Yeah I try to do it that way, but sometimes I just laugh at all of the requests, and the new ways the stories can be spun to get a donation.Just to follow-up from my original post. I broke down, gave a tip on Alua (a vidoe for 100 points or roughly $20 USD) and I got a video of the provider. I've been with her before so it's her but she's putting on a little weight plus none of the "TikTok" filtering was used. (Makes a world of a difference).

Then all of a sudden the rest of the supposed owed videos ceased, and all communications lost. Later on IG, I see same chick posting about being in a resort with some foreign dude, all dressed up and living the high life! So much for starving kids at home needing money to get school uniforms!

I knew this was going to be the case, but sometimes I just like to see and play What If? Amazing what one will do for $20!

Stay Safe out there!

[Sailor Jack]

"Wait A Minute, Doc. Are You Telling Me You Built A Time Machine. Out Of A DeLorean?

If smells like a duck its a duck.At first Sailor Jack was flummoxed for a response to this one. How does one respond to an unfounded claim that Sailor Jack did not attend an event that SJ did in fact attend? There were more than 100 guys in attendance at both events (the August rendition was highly muted and not worthy of a report) and yet there is only ONE poster on this thread who attended these events other than Sailor Jack? Really? Is that really true? Sailor Jack waited 10 days and there is only one poster here who says they also attended this event. What an eye opener that is for Sailor Jack.

It has suddenly occurred to Sailor Jack that SJ has greatly misread the makeup of the posters on this thread. Sailor Jack now thinks that SJ might be one of the very few full-timers on this thread. Or maybe Sailor Jack is the lone full-timer on this thread. That is depressing by itself, and it really makes Sailor Jack the odd man out on this thread. Sailor Jack has suddenly realized that SJ violated the first rule of Fuck Club.

1) Sailor Jack's prior post is 100% accurate.

2) ExpatPat and Montana and NonSense are somehow convinced that it did not happen.

Both of these statements are true.

ExpatPat and Montana and NonSense buttress their conclusion by offering their own ignorance as some sort of proof. Sailor Jack accepts their claim of ignorance, but it is only proof of their ignorance and nothing more.

More puzzling to Sailor Jack is what the motivation is for saying it did not happen? Ignorance? Arrogance? Sure, there are certainly degrees of that. But, after some thought, Sailor Jack thinks it is mostly fear of missing out. It is just so much easier for them to say it did not happen than to admit that they missed out (or maybe that somehow something could happen in AC that they do not know about). ExpatPat and Montana and NonSense simply do not WANT it to be true.

In Sailing, you can name the time OR you can name the place.

You cannot name the time AND the place.

That is also good security hygiene. Living here full-time requires a high level of discretion for security purposes. Did you ever stop to think about who reads this forum? WestCoast1 does not post trip reports until he safely out of town. That is smart. Sailor Jack does not have that option. Note that Sailor Jack's post came 5 months after the actual event (the event was in March 2023, not March 2024) and only got posted at all because the ongoing event is now tamed down. Sailor Jack never mentions the name of a bar (with a recent Insomnia fuck up well noted) or other venue. That is good security practice. It is also appropriate common sense turf protection. Thus, you will never see a bar review from Sailor Jack. The rules are different if you live in Angeles Fucking City full time.

In AFC you can surely find (and readily post here) melancholy, disappointment, angst, poor performance, poor quality, and blatant racism. But it is more likely that you brought that crap with you. There are self-loathing senior posters here who provide disinformation about a 20 to 1 ratio and only fatties and fuglies in Lollipop Bar and other bola2. Consider the posters' motivation for spreading this propaganda.

ExpatPat and Montana and NonSense, where are your pictures from your many trips to AC?

Please explain to us why you Angeles City experts are ignorant of this event?

And just why is it that you want others to think that it did not happen?

Image; Sext of the Day; there is enough in this image that any full-timer can name this bar, and maybe even name the girl. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

[Expat American]

ExpatPat and Montana and NonSense, where are your pictures from your many trips to AC?

Please explain to us why you Angeles City experts are ignorant of this event?

And just why is it that you want others to think that it did not happen?

Me thinks Sailor Jack is taking my light hearted Delorean joke a bit too seriously. I'm sure the event SJ described happened. But it is no longer common place as it used to be. As for pics, I have many gigs of pics and videos from 2004 onwards and find it pointless to take more every trip. Like I believe SJ did witness some rare raunchiness in an AC bar, SJ can believe that I have plenty of pics I feel no need to share here on a public board. Or don't believe it. It bothers me exactly NOT AT ALL.

And no, I am most definitely not a full timer and never will be. While I love me a little LBFM fuck fest I couldn't spend more than 4 days at a time in that lovable shit hole called AC. ID still be happy to barhop with SJ and buy him a beer or two anytime during my next visit.

[Member #4794]

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

In all seriousness your writing style does give me a headache so if I missed any details this is why(I skim through it). You may think this "Style" of writing is original but it is as readable as the white papers I read though all day doing research on biotech stocks and its a chore to read / decipher.

"The introduction of sildenafil citrate (Viagra), a drug that acts as a selective inhibitor of cGMPspecific phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5), which results in smooth muscle relaxation, vasodilatation, and enhanced penile erection, has been a major advancement in the treatment of erectile dysfunction. 7 The vasodilating action of sildenafil affects both the arteries and the veins, so the most frequent side effects of sildenafil are headache and facial flushing. 8 Sildenafil causes small decreases in systolic and diastolic blood pressures, but clinically significant hypotension is rare. Studies of sildenafil and nitrates taken together show much greater drops in blood pressure. For that reason, it is contraindicated to use sildenafil in patients who take long-acting nitrates or who use short-acting, nitrate-containing medications. ".

I'm sure the parallels in writing styles are not lost on you.

I digress. My reply was to this.



The above performance occurred in March 2024. Sailor Jack did attend the show again 08/12/2023 and an updated report will be forthcoming.
You wrote that the story happened in "2024" did it?.

You win! I apologize if it got to you, people genuinely seem to enjoy your posts so by all means please keep it up.

[Kuku696]

I plan to stay in Angeles city around 2 month.

Is there any hotel you can recommend, cheap and affordable one.

I heard some hotels offer discounted rate for long term stay.I normally stay at Central Park. They have 20% discount on cash payment. I stayed there last April. This is not a cheap hotel. Their rooms are 4700 pesos and upwards. I have trip planned for November. I have booked at both Central Park and Walkaround hotel. They both are giving 20% cash discount. Walkaroun is much cheaper and on Walking Street.

If you want to stay for two months, I would recommend Kandy Apartments.

[Kuku696]

Whilst I haven't seen one for a while except for in a backstreet bar catering to Filipinos where they occasionally do naked pole dancing. Naked shows seem rare but possible in Angeles still. If the bar wants to do it.

Remember it's all illegal and naked girls on stage is less serious than the act of bar fining a girl. Which is done every night. It's just more blatant and an easier target for the local politicians.

A small Korean bar beginning with be was doing it when bars were back open after the pandemic. Black nipple paint but some pussies out. You can be sure that this is already cleared with whoever they are paying bribes to or they are ready for the issues it will bring. No one would be doing this whilst not knowing what to expect. They did actually get temporarily shut down in the weeks after it. Probably for delaying their payment and pushing their luck.

Everyone knows gold bar was closed. It was in the news. For having minors. You could have walked in there any night leading up to it and pointed out the 2 or 3 minors with relative ease. It was so obvious it was stupid. The fact they reopened after it means their late fees were paid and it was business as usual.

Most bars don't do it because it's just not worth it for them. Bribery fees much higher. And believe it or not they don't bring in the high spending customer that could make it worth their while. Mainly drink nursers who will watch the show and exit. Also the type of girl willing to do it these days might not make for a great show anyway. You're not going to get a 7 or 8 doing a sex show in front of everyone in a bar when it's far more lucrative to do at home in front of her camera.Some of the Perimeter bars used to do it on occasion. As you said, I have not seen any recently, especially on Fields.

[GreenBud]

Some of the Perimeter bars used to do it on occasion. As you said, I have not seen any recently, especially on Fields.The local Filipino poker players all say that San Fernando has full nudity. They say Angeles / Walking Street has too many tourist. They say the city wouldn't allow that.

Too much logistical problems to go to San Fernando for barhopping. I don't want to pay for a private car.

In the old days, Niftys (on Perimeter Road) had some raunchy stuff.

A potential area for naughty shows might be on Manila North Road (#2). It's the road you take after you get off the expressway and head to Walking Street. I saw a few clubs. I was curious about those places. Would any REAL locals want to do a review?

[D Cups]

Hi guys I'm having a glorious time in AC the last 10 days. A dozen different girls and several repeats -- most from Angel Witch because they open early for the morning wood. This trip featured a 32 C or the 45 kilo spinner who was squirting her milk all over me so nice. Also a barely 18 with a nice rack in Subic who took care of me for three days. Also saw some old flames. This place is great for a week or two. Now its back to Duma where I live. Cheers.Responding to my own post (I'm bored here in Valencia) to add that out of all the times I have been to AC (prolly 25 or 30 since 2007 not counting I lived there from '82 - '84) this last visit in August 2023 was prolly one of my best out of all my visits between the very sexy just 18 year old Three days in Subic and the 32 Dee (I swear) 36 kilo milkmaid and another beautiful 34 or 36 the former conquest from Vikings who returned coincidentally when I was there and the amazing deepthroat and swallow blowjob pornstar smile for the camera queen 27 year old (for only 2 K) who is the eldest sister of another busty cocksucker that I have seen several times and who has big milky tits now. The two elder sisters want to set me up with their little sister who just turned 18 this month and is the sexiest of the three and have a threesome in Manila next month. Only in the Philippines, fellas.

What say ye Choca Monger? Haven't heard from you for awhile. Guys you bash Sailor Jack for his writing style which I think is fine. Comparatively and in all sincerity I think CM is one of the best and funniest (albeit negative) writers on ISG. And what about my old buddy Red Kilt who seems to be ignoring me for some reason.

Cheers and Beers.

[WestCoast1]

In the old days, Niftys (on Perimeter Road) had some raunchy stuff.

A potential area for naughty shows might be on Manila North Road (#2). It's the road you take after you get off the expressway and head to Walking Street. I saw a few clubs. I was curious about those places. Would any REAL locals want to do a review?20-ish years of visiting AC for hump-and-run, and never saw or heard of this kind of thing. Dang. So AC is really "Tijuana East"?

[GreenBud]

20-ish years of visiting AC for hump-and-run, and never saw or heard of this kind of thing. Dang. So AC is really "Tijuana East"?In Niftys and couple other places, it was more of buy ladydrinks and tip for the show. I saw BJs and lesbian shows.

They had the old Bacchus shows. Too early; never went to one. I've read they got closed down for being too raunchy.

Nothing too raunchy on Walking Street. In Atlantis, they had the bachelor type of shows, where the girls would do free lapdances on a customer on stage. But they had trouble getting volunteers.

They had more pasties and see thru tops (only on Sundays, which I didn't understand). Never saw any organized nudity in the main areas.