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Yes this is all to common. A girl gets guy and claims that he is hers and that he is suppose to be faithful. However she is allowed to have different guy every night. Gosh does not seem to fair to me. Well, I have a girl and crazy as this sounds she bar fines 2-3 times a week. Her and I have the understanding that if I bar fine do not do anyone in the club she works at or her friends. Sounds easy and works well. She says she not want to know nor does she want to see. What is great is when I am in town I do not have to bar fine her (its an understanding she had made with the mamason at the bar when she began working there from another bar). Well having said all this last April when there I had bar fine and she was bf with "costermer" and we ran into each other. Pretty funny but strange at first. Anyway, great girl, she not ask a dime from me even though she knows I will help her in time to time. Gosh 3 weeks and counting!
I wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with this Hotel http://www.centralpark-ac.com:80/
Cheers
Bigdan
I wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with this Hotel http://www.centralpark-ac.com:80/
Cheers
Bigdan
Very nice and centrally located hotel. Well-run but starting to age a little and it has no real pool.
But, if you can raise your budget a little to US 50/night you might want to try the Pacific Breeze instead (just across Santos, same management as CP). Newer, fresher and has a nice pool.
If you still want the CP, book well in advance. But Central Park it's often "sold out" and you will be offered upsell to a room at the PB anyway...
Interesting. I've met almost no girls on DIA that would admit to working in a bar in angeles. What a pity.
There is at least one bargirl who actually put..."bargirl" in the occupation field of the profile. Cool. You will also find quite a few girls listed as waitresses.
There are also some "civil engineers" in DIA in case you'd want to build something else than a short-time relationship.
Interesting. I've met almost no girls on DIA that would admit to working in a bar in angeles. What a pity.I've met two in just my short time on DIA. One a waitress, the other a checker. Advanced search will let you pinpoint Angeles, I think. Both quite nice.
Titmouse
FireWalker
08-19-08, 22:54
Thanks Psdai. Great info.
Anyone stay at The Brass Knob? Love the name!!
Cheap hotels that have caught my eye so far are: Koala. The Limited Edition Hotel. L Tinnio's Inn. Marble Inn. Marquis. Perimeter Hotel. Ponderosa. Sydney Hotel.
Any reviews?
Limited Edition is a short time hotel. Suggest you try Hotels not right on the Strip. Hana, Clarkton, Sunset Gardens. Hana is 950 a night on a weekly rate and it has a 24 hour pool. Don't stay anywhere cheaper than that.
FireWalker
08-19-08, 22:56
I disagree with that. Most cherry girls I would not even think of barfining.
... Even the girl I barfined few times told me she loves me ...
Sammon:
and did she tell you to make her pregnant? :) Last time 2 (!) bargirls "who loved me so very much" wanted a baby from me! Amazingly naive! Somebody with a similar experience?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
No, i use condom anyway.
And I have been around the block many times not to listen to all their bullshit.
I only treat them nice. They have a very tough life because of poverty , inner urge to help their family etc.
Yes, They would love to get married and have a normal life. I do not know if they will miss the bar and the excitement of conning men.
I met up with Gymwhite who showed me around. I stuck with his rule that on top of the BF, you may only tip the girl around 150 - 300, 500 max if she was outstanding.
Since I was at Lewis Hotel, we started off with the Perimeter Bars first. I was quite impressed with the quality on some of them, some don't look that good initially but with a drink and further evaluation they are not half bad. The thing I like about the bars over Pattaya ones are the peanut vendors. Beers go down easier with peanuts, and the bars must surely know that a symbiotic relationship exist between the peanut vendors and the bars. Consumption of salty peanuts sell more beers.
Lewis Hotel was having an opening night with free drinks and food. They even arranged for some hotties from Juliana's to drink with us. I did not know it then, but I later heard that you can pay a lot for this sort of privilege and not get any. I got a card from really hot girl, but decided not to pursue this "pie in the sky". From what I read it was a good thing I did not bother.
Finally we made it to Atlantis and hit paydirt. There were lots of girls, professionally trained dancers and stunners. I must admit I did not expect to find such an establishment on this piece of dirt called Angeles City. I think the regular girls were 1300p and stunners 3000p. One thing I did like about Atlantis was the free popcorn, this complemented the beer also their specially staged dancing routines were great. I saw an amazing stunner called Roxanne (3000p) whom I BF.
Roxanne was a little aloof and did not say much, but I got DFK, BBBJ and FS out of her. With round #2 in the morning. It has been a while since I has such a stunner BB me, so I tipped her as much as I could under Gymwhite's advice without spoiling the market, 500p.
Next day, Gymwhite and I went to a fine restaurant at Mimosa called Yats international. There you will find fine dining including Kobe and Wagyu beef complemented with fine cellar. I thought this is the place I would bring a cherry girl to if I wanted to grease her up for the big event. After that we went back to Atlantis, Roxanne was busy with another client and this time I tried her friend Jennifer and I believe, flatmate, also 3000p. Jennifer was initially friendly but back at the hotel she was pretty cold and wanted to leave early after only 1 session. So I told her she could go if she wanted and did not tip her at all. No point flogging a dead horse.
This gave me the opportunity the next day to hunt Perimeter Bars where I picked up Danni. She was fun. She had the hottest body and was quite shy when I offered to buy her a drink. She said she could believe a handsome guy like me would want to BF her. I said she was hot, and she retorted that I should not tease her with my lies about how beautiful she was. Anyway I asked about BBBJ, she said no problem. Asked about FS, she said "ofcourse". I was told to always check these things. She said she was usually a little afraid of Westerners as she was not used to them. Back in the room she was amazing, tight and kept saying my dick was too big. I got BBFS which was amazing.
Later I took her out for dinner at a nice Restaurant at C Italiano. She did not like her meal, she could not eat it and was apologetic that she had to waste it, particularly since the meal cost a lot by her standards. I offered her some of my steak which was too much for me anyway and told her not to worry about it. That really scored a lot of brownie points for me. Before the night was over I tipped her 300p which she was reluctant to take!
Then I went back to Atlantis and BF Roxanne. She explained that she could not stay the night but would return the next morning. I said ok. After the deed she left, I did not tip her, but would if she returned. I did not expect her to return and she did not. No problem, this gives me the afternoon with Danni again. But I guess you guys should beware of false promises, for me I had no problem as there are plenty of girls to go around.
I went back and BF Danni just as she started her shift and she was really glad to see me. We went back to my hotel for a swim (I had bikinis in my bag) and bought her cocktails by the pool. She could not swim so there were more groping. We then had had a game of pool volleyball with some others and their BF (also pretty hot). Then I said to Danni lets go back to the room. The other BF giggled that we were going for "boom boom". This time she let me video the whole thing.
When done we went for dinner at SM Mall. Before we parted I offered her another 300p tip which she refused. However upon my insistence she did finally relented and took it. Danni really made my AC trip whole. Before I saw her off I bumped into Roxanne on the street and she had the daggiest Pinoy boyfriend in tow. What a waste, I thought to myself.
My last night I hit all the bars on Fields. I bumped into the Lewis' owner who offered to buy me a drink and then told me I had just missed a hilarious 2 girl DFK, before 1 of them threw up on the other and showed me the spot where all the spew was. LOL.
I was tossing between a hottie I had seen at Insomnia and another waitress I had seen at Typhoon. By the time I returned to Insomnia she had been BF. Another hottie I saw at Atlantis was giving me the looks and smiling at me but she had already been BF by someone else. Finally I had settled on Rachel, a waitress at Typhoon. Back in the hotel she was pretty average and wished I had kept Danni or BF another hottie at the Carousel who was also giving me the looks. At least she gave me a shot in the morning, but I did not bother to finish, thought I'd save me cum for Macau where I was heading next.
In summary:
Jennifer (Atlantis) - avoid.
Roxanne (Atlantis) - stunner but beware of promises.
Rachel (waitress at Typhoon) - inexperienced but pleasant.
Very central location and you can use the pool nearby at Pacific Breeze. I guess you already figured that out from the web site. I imagine its well run as is the P. Breeze. I've only stayed at P. Breeze.
X
I wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with this Hotel http://www.centralpark-ac.com:80/
Cheers
Bigdan
I wouldn't either. I simply meant that they are sometimes the best looking woman in the bar. I have to assume the bar would only hire a cherry girls because she has something ELSE to offer customers.
X
I disagree with that. Most cherry girls I would not even think of barfining.
I've known a couple cherry girls over the years who were much more fun than their non-cherry counter parts and who were much better money makers. Just because they were still cherry vaginaly didn't mean the rest of them was.
I wouldn't either. I simply meant that they are sometimes the best looking woman in the bar. I have to assume the bar would only hire a cherry girls because she has something ELSE to offer customers.
X
Very central location and you can use the pool nearby at Pacific Breeze. I guess you already figured that out from the web site. I imagine its well run as is the P. Breeze. I've only stayed at P. Breeze.
X
Cheers X Man,
I was recommended by a friend Pacific Breeze, but I maybe find 57 USD for 16 nights bit expensive coming from Europe. But I agree though Pacific Breeze, looks a good value indeed.
Are any paticular bars you recommend for stunners who are not Cherry girls?
Cheers
Bigdan
HornyGeorge
08-20-08, 23:48
PB is $41 for cheapest rooms (no window) or $48 (with window). $57 is for a suite or something. Besides, if paying in Euros it is CHEAP!
Central Park, while owned and operated by same group, is about 30 years older than PB and well passed its prime. LOTS of better opinions.
Any bar may have cherry girls, or non virgins claiming that status if they do not want to get BFd. But every bar also has plenty who are not.
poopbunny - good report on your ac adventures. do you have any photos to share?
Hello Bigdan,
I have stayed at Central Park on two occasions, and I have been very satisfied. It is not the biggest or best, but it is good value for money, and teh staff ar friendly. Everything worked, the aircon was not loud.
And it is almost dead center to evrything, which is a great advantage, as it means that you can walk your lady home in a short time from almost every bar.
And if you need that early morning bj to get the juices flowing, just walk round the corner to Santos St
Good luck,
Gangles.
Some time ago I posted a question for advice on taxi services Manila to Angeles.
To all those who replied, thanks.
I eventually chose the service from Central Park hotel. Cost 2500, inclding tolls. You just call the front desk and order the car, very easy.
The guy was waiting in the terminal, the car was good. I bought breakfast (it was 5.30am) and we were off. Took 90 minutes. Good service.
Other prices I got ranged from 3500 to 4500, both from hotels and private operators.
Gangles
My appologies Gangles, I didn't see your request for taxi service info. I've been offered prices of 3000 and 2500 from manila to angelies from various taxis that I've picked up at the airport on my usual (and far cheaper) path to Angelies city. At the airport I always go up stairs to the departures area and get a taxi that has just droped someone off. I catch it to the 5 star bus terminal that is practicaly just on the other side of the airport. This usualy cost me 200 paso. Although they always ask for 3 & sometimes 400 pasos. I push the point for the meter to be turned on (this would then cost around 100pasos) but I almost always the alow them to turn the meter off and offer then 200 pasoa for the trip. By forcing them to put the meter on your showing them you know how it works and your not about to get ripped off by them. The bus to angelies now cost 145pasos as of last July and takes about 90min. You actualy go to the suburb of Dau. And then get ripped off by the waiting trike drivers who charge 100pasos to take you to Fields Ave.
PB is $41 for cheapest rooms (no window) or $48 (with window). $57 is for a suite or something. Besides, if paying in Euros it is CHEAP!
Central Park, while owned and operated by same group, is about 30 years older than PB and well passed its prime. LOTS of better opinions.
Any bar may have cherry girls, or non virgins claiming that status if they do not want to get BFd. But every bar also has plenty who are not.
HornyGeorge,
They must have changed their Prices Pacific Breeze because the cheapest room is 48 USD and this room is in Oahu Wing, A friend recommended to be in the Hotel itself and there the cheapest is 57 USD.
Dont get me wrong guys this is a good value compared what I noramaly pay in Europe, but the price of the airticket has made me think a little what could be value for money.
Are there any cheaper Hotels apart from Central Park you recommend?
Cheers
Bigdan
And if you need that early morning bj to get the juices flowing, just walk round the corner to Santos Street
Gangles.
Gangles I thought you could just have that in bed early in the morning before the misses leaves after the night.
Bigdan
I stayed in the $48 dollar room a month ago, the problem with this hotel is they quote you dollar price for the rooom but when you settle up, you have to pay in peso, and the exchange rate is in their favour.
Have got to say though the hotel quality is fantastic, and just the mention that you are staying in the Pacific Breeze to the girls, seems to be the tipping point for them to go with you on BF.
The August newsletter is out.
Reports on bar raids mentioned here.
Some new bars and some crime reports.
http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/aug08/
Be safe and have fun,
Slim
I stayed in the $48 dollar room a month ago, the problem with this hotel is they quote you dollar price for the rooom but when you settle up, you have to pay in peso, and the exchange rate is in their favour.
Have got to say though the hotel quality is fantastic, and just the mention that you are staying in the Pacific Breeze to the girls, seems to be the tipping point for them to go with you on BF.
I can agree to that as also the Dollar has been improving against € and GBP, and if it improves further it will get more expensive for Europeans.
HornyGeorge
08-22-08, 19:17
PB Hotel allows you to pay cash in US dollars so you can avoid the conversion rate ripoff. Even at $48 for Oahu Wing, which is better IMHO than the other building as it is quieter and no walk of shame, PB is still better value than ABC, Wild Orchid etc.
Clarkton Hotel is a better deal for a nice hotel, but it is a little ways up the road from the main district (although it is right on Perimeter Road in the middle of its own, lesser known, bar district).
I agree with the rating of the PB and the centralpark,formerly knwn as the chicago park hotel with a nice bar.now moved into a parking lot for the lowlifes.l stay allways at orchid inn.They qoute the rooms in pesos and give a 10% discount and have a quite stable internet connection either in the room or at the poolside.They have also a free internet terminal to be used by any guest,while PB charges for that,well maybe the owner is american jewish,hehehe.Tomorow l go to Subic at 8.45am with the SouthernStar bus.l will stay at the new wildorchid hotel over there and report how things improve.
Weather in ac is very nice,no rain,clear skies,a bit hot at the afternoon though.
Blink
AsianLover2
08-23-08, 14:38
Asianlover2, I'm not often in champange, cause when I'm there I can forget the next day completly. The papasan is a pinoy who also does speak german. So I agree with FW on this, they just pissed the gurl stayed with you, gave them an excuse and you skip the steady barfine. I had allmost the same problem with my GF, when she left the bar for some time she got fine 5k when she start working again, cause they just assume she stays with me and while she is a stunner she is also a good earner for the establishment. She makes easy 25000p a week with drinks and a lot of bola2.
You bought her a laptop? PLease read my post about camgurls. And even its your 25 th time in Angeles city you will never know. I'm here all the time and what I learned is, seeing is believing.
Like mentioned before, business is business and why should the papa san aproach you in person? I would also let my staff handle this, cause thats what they paid for, right?
We have allways to look at both sides to make a judgement. And because its most of the business these days in AC, it would be also handled like a business.
BlinkYes. Thanks for your comments. If just 1 person passes up CHAMPAGNE it will make me feel better.
And I know about 'seeing is believing' too. I have bedded down a few cam girls myself. And when I visit I see her 1/2 of my stay. The other half is to sample new talent.
She is a steady girl. Not my only girl. I would never have a 'GF' unless I lived there.
11 weeks and counting to trip 26!
the pool is friggin gigantic. but blink, don't [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in the pool.
you're gonna love the place.
x
l will stay at the new wildorchid hotel over there and report how things improve.
weather in ac is very nice,no rain,clear skies,a bit hot at the afternoon though.
blink
Yet another raid, courtesy of the local PNP (station 4) was done/conducted on Friday night early in the evening hours. The bar that was "hit" was Paradise. 2 mamasans and one girl were taken into custody. As of yesterday they had not been released as apparently on the weekends they cannot have an agecheck done (this is where they use a dentist to check the girls teeth to determine age. This at most is 70% effective). My sources tell me that the girl in question is 19 years old and looks it (meaning that she does look less than 18). Paradise bar will not be open until Monday at the earliest.
This is just another BS raid that is killing the local economy (bars) and driving away potential tourists. I have been seeing less and less tourists on the streets, especially Fields Ave. These raids seem to be occurring with greater frequency and this will certainly lead to harder times for the bars of AC. Years ago and numerous times since then I have been told that Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines and with each "out for themselves" or extortion attempt that goes on, just goes to prove that statement is so very true (yes there are exceptions, but on a general basis the statement is so very true imo, which is based on years of living here)
Adidas Ron
08-24-08, 07:26
Hi All,
Will land at 11:50 Aug 30th in Manila, looking to see if anyone else is arriving near that time and wants to share a car to AC.
Thanks all
Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines
This seems to be a theme with you. The Angeles area has certainly attracted and bred whole generations of scum, thanks to the base and the culture that went with that. But you don't have to get very far from Balibago to meet Pampanguenos of quality. Have you spent much time in ordinary towns like Lubao, or Santo Tomas, or Apalit? I think you'll find most of the locals to be decent people, no better or worse than those from any other province. It's AC that's the exception.
This seems to be a theme with you. The Angeles area has certainly attracted and bred whole generations of scum, thanks to the base and the culture that went with that. But you don't have to get very far from Balibago to meet Pampanguenos of quality. Have you spent much time in ordinary towns like Lubao, or Santo Tomas, or Apalit? I think you'll find most of the locals to be decent people, no better or worse than those from any other province. It's AC that's the exception.
I have not had extensive travels to those outlying areas that you mentioned, but have in the surrounding towns near AC. That said I do not disagree with you and you are correct, I should have worded my statement with better geographical precision (specifically AC and the surrounding towns and area's). It is a theme and the theme has been built on many years of living here and numerous interactions with the locals (in and near ac), my opinion was not based off of a single visit, or 5 visits, but rather as previously stated years of living here and my experiences.
Yet another raid, courtesy of the local PNP (station 4) was done/conducted on Friday night early in the evening hours. The bar that was "hit" was Paradise. 2 mamasans and one girl were taken into custody. As of yesterday they had not been released as apparently on the weekends they cannot have an agecheck done (this is where they use a dentist to check the girls teeth to determine age. This at most is 70% effective). My sources tell me that the girl in question is 19 years old and looks it (meaning that she does look less than 18). Paradise bar will not be open until Monday at the earliest.
This is just another BS raid that is killing the local economy (bars) and driving away potential tourists. I have been seeing less and less tourists on the streets, especially Fields Ave. These raids seem to be occurring with greater frequency and this will certainly lead to harder times for the bars of AC. Years ago and numerous times since then I have been told that Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines and with each "out for themselves" or extortion attempt that goes on, just goes to prove that statement is so very true (yes there are exceptions, but on a general basis the statement is so very true imo, which is based on years of living here)
An update, the girl and mamasans are still being held. They will now not be released until Tuesday at the earliest (Monday is a holiday here in the PI).
The girl in question was 19 years old, she had all the proper paperwork, Including a NBI certified copy of her birth certificate, she is also married, he husband went down to the PNP station 4 and STILL she was NOT released.
Paradise bar opened their doors earlier today at 5pm, but by 7:15pm the "authorities" closed them down AGAIN.
King Squared
08-24-08, 21:09
Are there any cheaper Hotels apart from Central Park you recommend?Check out the Royal Amsterdam.
Thanks for the tip but I am sure. She is 5 hours from AC and has internet in her house. She chats every day before she goes to school and when she gets home. Besides she and her mother run the sari sari from 6 am to 12 pm. Her mother would kill her. LOL
Just remember AL2 : You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl! :rolleyes:
Does your girls' name begin with the letter 'L' and have four letters?
Hi All,
Will land at 11:50 Aug 30th in Manila, looking to see if anyone else is arriving near that time and wants to share a car to AC.
Thanks all
Hehe.jst sitin at wildorchid in subic with my Gf and l realized again why germans(and lm sure your german)dont have a good reputation in angeles city.Now,if you allready have to cut on the cost going there ,better stay away from angeles city.l assume you mean 11.50am.So here my advise,take a cab to manila swagmann hotel,its around 100p and get fly the bus 3.30pm to angeles city for 600p.Now,you have to kill 2 hours when being at swagmann and waiting for the ride.Lucky you,there is a 7 11 nearby,beer is just 23p,instead of 66p for a draft beer at swagmann.Hope that helps.
Blink(german)
Good evening to all,
Broadcasting live from atlantis club.Good to see some western mongers over here.If you have a Wlan cp you can access internet free,like l do now.Refering to an earlier report l took a look at Roxane.She color her hair and wearing pink dress.Guess she earns good money here.Now she walks away while she was looking at her watch.Guess another jellous moneyko called her up.Thats for now folks.Just came from Las vegas,one stunner there,but didnt like the atmosphere.
Blink out(with a liveupdate sa atlantis)
Adidas Ron
08-26-08, 03:12
Hehe.jst sitin at wildorchid in subic with my Gf and l realized again why germans(and lm sure your german)dont have a good reputation in angeles city.Now,if you allready have to cut on the cost going there ,better stay away from angeles city.l assume you mean 11.50am.So here my advise,take a cab to manila swagmann hotel,its around 100p and get fly the bus 3.30pm to angeles city for 600p.Now,you have to kill 2 hours when being at swagmann and waiting for the ride.Lucky you,there is a 7 11 nearby,beer is just 23p,instead of 66p for a draft beer at swagmann.Hope that helps.
Blink(german)Blink,
I am sure you are a nice guy, but don't jump to conclusions,
my request was not due to lack of funds, I have more than enough, I can assure you, I am arriving at 11 50pm, and have not been to AC, was just wondering if someone wanted to share a 2 hour ride and shoot the shit, share stories and have a beer.
for the most part we are all looking for the same thing here, so, do not be so quick to judge, if you want, I will be happy to buy you a beer if you are in AC this weekend (heck, I'll even spring for an import beer if you like)
as far as money goes, that is not something that I lose sleep over, I do "ok"
nothing against the Germans, but I am Canadian,
An PI summary for newcomers on a budget
I recently received a pm from an apparent newcomer to Phil. who is on a budget and is thinking of staying in AC for 16 days. He asks me for advice, but doesn’t tell me how he likes to spend his time. The short answer is if you want to drink and fk at low cost, then AC is the place for you. I personally wouldn't stay in AC for more than three/four days -- unless I was in love.
Let’s assume you want to do more than hang out in AC waiting for the bars to open. For a change of scenery you can easily get to Subic Bay which has an average beach and some bars for the hobby. Manila is worth a few days, but is more expensive and stressful (beggars, traffic jams, noise, pollution, etc). Out of Manila you could easily make a one day trip to Tagaytay and the volcano. Beautiful scenery there.
From Manila you can easily fly to most cities for about 5-6000 round trip. From AC, I think SEAIR flys to Cebu city. There are also overnight ferries and you should be able to get a cabin for the same price as a hotel room. Search “Super Ferry”, but there are other companies.
You can find hotels for less than 1000 peso, but they tend to be simple. In AC, you can find some bargains down toward the Perimeter area.
Just one example: La Casa Pension Tamarind St, Clarkview, Tel. 322 7984 hotellacasa@harrythehorse.com
When you stay in this area you are near some bars, but the top notch bars on Fields will be 8pesos away by jeepney, or 70 pesos by tricycle.
And newcomers, before you ask questions, let us know what your intentions are, what your experience is in SEAsia, and your rough budget. You’ll probably get much better answers that way.
X Man
And newcomers, before you ask questions, let us know what your intentions are, what your experience is in SEAsia, and your rough budget. You’ll probably get much better answers that way.
X Man
I guess it was me who sent you this private message, I never said I was on a budget, I asked for a cheaper Hotel for a 16 night stay than 57 USD per night. And thanks to Gangles he has warmly recommended Central Park.
Regarding my 16 night stay because I have read there are little other activites either than mongering that is why I have asked if there would be better to Split Manila and AC. I guess Cebu is a bit far out.
Regarding my Experience in Asia it is ZERO, but maybe I would like some advice on what bars are good and what which are not as good. I guess I have read about the price range of these bars and got good info on it.
Regards
Bigdan
Hi to all,
this week, starting tomorow is the "search for the atlantis godess".
Its a foto shooting at wild orchid starting at 2pm if Im not that mistaken. So all the beauties can be seen there.
On Saturday the main event will take place at Atlantis. Nice guys like me get a VIP card which alows them to be in first row. So, I guess I have to shoot some fotos for the board here :D.
All in all AC is a bit quiet. Empty bars, many girls. Good time to be there.
I talked to a swiss guy who was the first time in ANgeles city. He usually mongers in Pattaya and he told me he allways go to Asia off season , cause its to crowded in high season. With that said he add, its very cheap in Angeles city compared to the Pattaya clubs and girls are qute young here and pretty.
Life is good
Blink
Hello Psdai, you mentioned that there are some blow job bars within a minute's walk of Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden, or the Phoneix Hotel. Can you give me names of these bj bars, or good directions how to find them?
In advance
Gangles
BD
I wasn't trying to call you out BD, but I thought my reply would be more useful on the main board rather than pm. For every BD who has the balls to visit PI, there are a hundred lurkers who just read. No offense to the lurkers, wives make it hard to travel. Thank god I got rid of mine. Or maybe she got rid of me. :-)
Sorry to disagree BD, but almost everyone except Bill Gates has a "budget", and it's pretty clear you are looking for discounts by the questions you ask. I was in PI last month for 20 days, and I had hotels ranging from 1300 to 3500. My advice is to save the expensive places for the last, because it's damn hard to go from posh to simple. Much easier to go the other way.
When I was a student with little money and lots of time, I did the bottom of the barrel tour of Asia. I had a blast. Now that I have a bit of money, but short vacations, I splurge a bit. I still don't know where you are on the scale of things. I'm 40ish by the way. If you are younger than 30 and have game, yo don't need to go to AC. Hell, if you are 40ish, bald, slightly overweight and got game, you don't need to go to AC. But everyone should exp. AC at least once.
Ooops, you travel transcontinental to Pi, but Cebu is "far out". Do you mean financially or comfort wise? I think it's only a 90 min flight.
And I still don't know what you want to do with your time. Either my assumptions were right, or my suggestions were dismissed.
Have a good trip.
X
I guess it was me who sent you this private message, I never said I was on a budget, I asked for a cheaper Hotel for a 16 night stay than 57 USD per night. And thanks to Gangles he has warmly recommended Central Park.
Regarding my 16 night stay because I have read there are little other activites either than mongering that is why I have asked if there would be better to Split Manila and AC. I guess Cebu is a bit far out.
Regarding my Experience in Asia it is ZERO, but maybe I would like some advice on what bars are good and what which are not as good. I guess I have read about the price range of these bars and got good info on it.
Regards
Bigdan
X Man,
I Did not say you were trying to call me out just getting your post number 1.500, only joking.
To ask two questions I did not think I needed to add my life story.
But I can tell you I am in late 30´s and not balled, The weight ballance is quite good less I stay too long on a Holliday, Besides being overweight you might strugle to perform on the girls. Am I right?
My Budget, I don´t see why I should overpay for Hotel, I have been known to pay a lot more than the figures you mention, but don´t forget AC, Cebu, Manila is not London or Paris.
On Entertainment I am willing to spend, no point to travel half way around the world to look into every peso.
Regarding my other question I asked about because I have heard different opionions staying long time in AC if it would be too long to Stay 14-16 nights in AC, I asked about Manila, Checking out some previous posts I see you are a regular in PI. In generally I dont like flying but I realise this is good oportunity to get good GFE with nice Asian girls, but it does not mean I want to spend a lot of time flying all over Asia, to Check out other places.
Well I guess I asked you three question not in the PM but my last message, What about good bars? Of course nobody forces you to answer these questions.
I have done my best to help newcomers on the Prague section or reply to any question asked as I have been there a regular traveler. But we are not paid to write so it is up to each person.
Hope I made myself clear this time.
I am sure I will have a nice trip.
Take care and have a nice day
Bigdan
BD
I wasn't trying to call you out BD, but I thought my reply would be more useful on the main board rather than pm. For every BD who has the balls to visit PI, there are a hundred lurkers who just read. No offense to the lurkers, wives make it hard to travel. Thank god I got rid of mine. Or maybe she got rid of me. :-)
Sorry to disagree BD, but almost everyone except Bill Gates has a "budget", and it's pretty clear you are looking for discounts by the questions you ask. I was in PI last month for 20 days, and I had hotels ranging from 1300 to 3500. My advice is to save the expensive places for the last, because it's damn hard to go from posh to simple. Much easier to go the other way.
When I was a student with little money and lots of time, I did the bottom of the barrel tour of Asia. I had a blast. Now that I have a bit of money, but short vacations, I splurge a bit. I still don't know where you are on the scale of things. I'm 40ish by the way. If you are younger than 30 and have game, yo don't need to go to AC. Hell, if you are 40ish, bald, slightly overweight and got game, you don't need to go to AC. But everyone should exp. AC at least once.
Ooops, you travel transcontinental to Pi, but Cebu is "far out". Do you mean financially or comfort wise? I think it's only a 90 min flight.
And I still don't know what you want to do with your time. Either my assumptions were right, or my suggestions were dismissed.
Have a good trip.
X
I think it was in a little dirt road between Zapata's and C Italiano restaurant.
There were 3 of them, I only remember 2 of the bars names, Nifty and Rio.
Gymwhite and I had a beer at Rio. Didn't see anything we liked. The one that was marginally acceptable was already drinking with another punter, but I didn't see any head being given. I was told it was more of a daytime bar than a night one.
Hello Psdai, you mentioned that there are some blow job bars within a minute's walk of Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden, or the Phoneix Hotel. Can you give me names of these bj bars, or good directions how to find them?
In advance
Gangles
My view is you can never spend too long in AC especially if you live far away from the region and can't get there often enough. 2 weeks would be enough to get through some of the hotties (but not all) that you may see. And I suspect towards the end of the 2 weeks you would find new ones that you would not have the time to get to know.
I still have visions of at least 3 stunners I saw but never got to know and would probably never see again as I suspect the next time I do make it to AC they would be gone.
Also the girls don't work there everynight. There was at least one occasion I went back the next day only to be told it was their night off (or maybe someone BF them for a few days). So 2 weeks will get you covered.
If you score a really good GFE you want to spend more than a day with, you might want to say, add Subic as a side trip with her.
IMO, Perimeter and Fields is only on the fringe of Angeles City, I myself and I suspect many mongers never made it to downtown AC. I would have liked to explore it, not that there would be much to see.
I am a real food person and although there are some fine restaurants, there are probably not enough there to satisfy my stay for 2 weeks but I would easily sacrifice that for some hot tail.
IMO, the best and also slightly more expensive bar is Atlantis. Of course the best bar does not guarantee GFE, IMO, you are more likely to find that at Perimeter ones.
The bars were happy for me to pop in to have a look without stopping for a drink.
X Man,
Regarding my other question I asked about because I have heard different opionions staying long time in AC if it would be too long to Stay 14-16 nights in AC, I asked about Manila, you talk about Cebu. In generally I dont like flying but I realise this is good oportunity to get good GFE with nice Asian girls, but it does not mean I want to spend time flying all over Asia, to Check out other places.
Well I guess I asked you three question not in the PM but my last message, What about good bars? Of course nobody forces you to answer questions.
Bigdan
hello poopbunny,
that´s more like it i will put atlantis on my list of bars.
that is on fields?
any favourite bars on perimeter street?
if i decide to take a break from the hobby and just go for a drink and talk with some other mongers are some bars you recommend?
one question which has crossed my mind i forgot to ask are pi girls open for a threesome?
cheers
bigdan
my view is you can never spend too long in ac especially if you live far away from the region and can't get there often enough. 2 weeks would be enough to get through some of the hotties (but not all) that you may see. and i suspect towards the end of the 2 weeks you would find new ones that you would not have the time to get to know.
i still have visions of at least 3 stunners i saw but never got to know and would probably never see again as i suspect the next time i do make it to ac they would be gone.
also the girls don't work there everynight. there was at least one occasion i went back the next day only to be told it was their night off (or maybe someone bf them for a few days). so 2 weeks will get you covered.
if you score a really good gfe you want to spend more than a day with, you might want to say, add subic as a side trip with her.
imo, perimeter and fields is only on the fringe of angeles city, i myself and i suspect many mongers never made it to downtown ac. i would have liked to explore it, not that there would be much to see.
i am a real food person and although there are some fine restaurants, there are probably not enough there to satisfy my stay for 2 weeks but i would easily sacrifice that for some hot tail.
imo, the best and also slightly more expensive bar is atlantis. of course the best bar does not guarantee gfe, imo, you are more likely to find that at perimeter ones.
the bars were happy for me to pop in to have a look without stopping for a drink.
HornyGeorge
08-26-08, 23:18
2 full weeks in angeles is too much unless you are a hard core drinker and *****monger. a week is plenty to see and do all there is to see and do. if you have two weeks, and are a hard core drinker and monger, i still would only stay a week in angeles and then go to pattaya for the other week.
subic/olangapo is not worth the trip, even with the new hiway (which has become a speedtrap as they time your entry and exit based on the toll booth times and friendly cops are there to ticket you if you arrive sooner than you should have. this makes perfect sense if you understand filipino thinking because this is about the only road that is uncongested enough to allow you to really speed for an extended period. oh, and they forgot to build the offramp for angeles so you need to drive almost thirty minutes in the opposite direction just to get on the sclex!
if you want to stay in the pi on your first trip then cebu is the logical choice for a second place to visit. actually if you want to see the real pi it should be your first choice, but most just want cheap beer and hookers so angeles fits the bill perfectly. flight is less than 1 hour.
central park is several steps down from pacific breeze, although it is run by same people.
the perimeter road bars are definitely better in the afternoon than in the evening. they are not famous for their eye candy, they are famous for being raunchy and friendly (as well as cheap). rio and nifty both have a handful of virgins who deepthroat like linda lovelace.
atlantis and dollhouse have way better facilities, way more lookers, but much less likely to produce gfe. the prima donnas tend to gravitate to those two bars in particular. also, they have more taller girls and more white skinned girls (owned by koreans hence they hire the preferred look of koreans).
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yes. fields is on atlantis.
the non-bj ones i remember on perimeter i remember are
touch of class, emotions, brass knob, caddy shack, thi-hi and the one next to it. i could not really say one which would be better than the other as the girls do move around. also i found that when i did have a drink at say caddy shack, some of the girls i started chatting and playing pool with, which i first was not attracted to, seemed quite nice and would probably get great gfe from, and i found them more attractive after knowing them a little better.
here’s another tip.
bring peanuts and offer it to the girls. this will go a long way to improve your goodwill with them even if you don’t buy them drinks and on perimeter there is no pressure to do so which i really like.
they are not expensive and a bag about p80 worth will last a whole night. some peanut vendors that ply their trade along perimeter are better than others. a really good one is inside sm mall on level 2 just as it joins the overhead pedestrian bridges.
on the far end of perimeter (furthest away from fields) i suspect those bars cater for the korean clientele, and i did not bother visiting based on the reports that i have read here. imo, if the korean ones segregate themselves and allow only koreans, then the good field ones should keep koreans out…if only it was that simple. at atlantis i saw a lot of koreans literally throwing wads of money at the girls on stage, shameful display of wealth. if i had that much money i would buy all the girls a round of drinks or something more discreet.
most barflies are mongers and would quite happily compare notes.
threesome, that’s a tough one. i am a one woman man. gym did tell me his first bf was not open to a twosome but his second one was. the only way to find out would be to bring your bf or two along and make the proposal to your next potential bf and negotiate beforehand. they all have a threshold as to what they would and would not do, but they would easily bend this threshold depending on how much they like you, how desperate they are and when the next rent is due.
hello poopbunny,
that´s more like it i will put atlantis on my list of bars.
that is on fields?
any favourite bars on perimeter street?
if i decide to take a break from the hobby and just go for a drink and talk with some other mongers are some bars you recommend?
one question which has crossed my mind i forgot to ask are pi girls open for a threesome?
cheers
bigdan
Key Master
08-27-08, 02:14
That´s more like it I will put Atlantis on my list of bars.
That is on Fields?
Any favourite bars on Perimeter street?
Bigdan
BD,
I don't know if you realize how small AC mongering area is. To me it doesn't matter what bar is hot now or not. When you are there, you can walk all of Fields, and for Perimiter, you can walk also, but it's a little more spread out. Personally for me, I could not do two weeks in Angeles. I have been in a lot of parts in Asia, and I am not all that into AC, but whatever floats your boat. If I were a beginner, yes AC is the easiest place to start, but if paying for entertainment is not an issue, I suggest you consider Cebu by flight and Manila by car for sure. Read the other boards on the details. Price of hotel will probably go up though as will your average costs, but I believe that better talent on average in many ways lies outside of AC. AC is the most talked about monger area in PI, but I personally think it's a little over rated. You can book a hotel and then leave early.
BD, I assumed you were looking for alternative things to do during your sixteen days. Some people go diving. Others go hiking. Disco. Historical sites. Others chat up regular women on the net and then practice their seduction skills in country. Go north for some beautiful mountain country. Some people need a beach (which is why I suggested Subic). Etc.
So, knowing what a person has in mind makes it easier to reply. I assure you that I could care less about your "life story".
Have a good trip.
X
Good post Keymaster. Barhopping is the way to go. I've had a good time in run down bars with some very naughty ladies, and also enjoyed the big shows put on by the big bars. Some guys like Perimeter, some like Fields, many find time for both (that's me). You can even find a good time in the Diamond area. What is the name of that place with the one-way window? I had a cute girl massaging my crank the whole time I was there.
X
To ask two questions I did not think I needed to add my life story.
downtown, not much to see. wandering thruough the market is one option. by all means visit the church on sunday -- have some of your sins forgiven, or maybe try to chat up a lady.
i like cottage kitchen (good food), bourbon street (mostly for the romantic atmosphere). doll house restaurant is overpriced, but edible and great view of the street action. what restaurants do you like pb?
x
imo, perimeter and fields is only on the fringe of angeles city, i myself and i suspect many mongers never made it to downtown ac. i would have liked to explore it, not that there would be much to see.
i am a real food person and although there are some fine restaurants,
While I was there I dined at
Myrnaki Greek Restaurant – pretty average, would probably not return. Cash only.
C Italiano – good, very reasonably priced (by European standards). Accepts and I paid by credit card.
Yats International (Mimosa near airport/Holiday Inn) – fine dining and wine. Beef cuts from Australia and Argentina (rare). Wagyu and Kobe also available. Meal came with complementary soup appetizer and lots of bread. Accepts and I paid by credit card. There is a Brazilian BBQ called churrascaria at Holiday Inn where unlimited amounts of meats are brought around until you get stuffed and have to flip red to signal that you’ve had enough. Also saw other fine dining Japanese establishments at Mimosa within walking distance of Yats.
Shakeys (at SM Mall) – really good value and clean. Accepts and I paid by credit card.
Also on my list but I never made it there were
Cottage Kitchen
Brettos (look more like a fine deli that served nice hamburgers too
Rib Eye Steak Restaurant (at MacAurthur Highway)
Maranao Grill
Rumpa
Four Seasons Grill
Red Sea
Downtown, not much to see. Wandering thruough the market is one option. By all means visit the church on Sunday -- have some of your sins forgiven, or maybe try to chat up a lady.
I like Cottage Kitchen (good food), Bourbon Street (mostly for the romantic atmosphere). Doll House restaurant is overpriced, but edible and great view of the street action. What restaurants do you like PB?
X
BD, I assumed you were looking for alternative things to do during your sixteen days. Some people go diving. Others go hiking. Disco. Historical sites. Others chat up regular women on the net and then practice their seduction skills in country. Go north for some beautiful mountain country. Some people need a beach (which is why I suggested Subic). Etc.
So, knowing what a person has in mind makes it easier to reply. I assure you that I could care less about your "life story".
Have a good trip.
X
Hi X Man,
Totally respect your comments, But I was only like asking advice on if it would be better to split 16 nights between Manila and AC, I was not asking for other places.
But I agree with you it gives you more of an insight to tell you what my interests are, I like everything connected to girls, for culture I dont have to travel far I have done a lot of that in my lifetime.
But I do like discos and searching for freebies. But my only question was because it has been mentioned that it is lack of activities, if 16 nights would be to long as I am sure Manila has most of other things.
Sorry but I wont be flying domestic in PI.
I am sure you are not interested in my lifestory apart from searching my age;)
Gangles,
Sorry for the delay in getting to you about this but been extremely busy at work the last few days. If you are standing in front of the Phoenix hotel looking across Perimeter road at Clark, turn left and walk down the road (towards Friendship Gate). You will pass one corner that has Zapata’s on it. Continue about 75 meters past Illusions, Caddy Shack, and Garfield’s. At Garfield’s you can either take a left and go to one of the 3 BJ bars there (Rio, Nifty's or Sweety) or continue another 10 meters along Perimeter to the Matrix Bar. Personally I highly recommend Matrix for the quality of the girls compared to the other 3 places and it is a better facility in general.
Hello Psdai, you mentioned that there are some blow job bars within a minute's walk of Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden, or the Phoneix Hotel. Can you give me names of these bj bars, or good directions how to find them?
In advance
Gangles
If I was 30ish, I could do a lot better than AC - and did. You obviously aren't interested in that.
I've had some great times with regular women, despite being 40ish and bald (or as you say "ballish").
bald bald bald...
Hope you have a wonderful 16 days in AC.
Where are you from?Where do you stay?
After that, improvise!
X
I am sure you are not interested in my lifestory apart from searching my age;)
Hello Psdai, you mentioned that there are some blow job bars within a minute's walk of Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden, or the Phoneix Hotel. Can you give me names of these bj bars, or good directions how to find them?
In advance
Gangles
Between Zapada's (mexican rest) and Garfields) you will find a side street with Nifty's, Rio and Sweety bar. All of them are your basic BJ and ST bars. I must say that I was doing a bar hop 5 days ago and we went into Nifty's and the drink pressure was horrific! Also the quality has taken a hit at nifty's as well in my last two stops. Another "BJ type" bar that I do recommend is Matrix Brawn (blue colored building and walls). It is located very near the side street that the other bars are on, it is next to the "Primo's bar", but be VERY CAREFUL not to go in to that bar, its a gay/bakla bar.
A visit to the Matrix Brawn couch is still only P500 (nifty's is now charging P700 and more if they think they can get away with it).
There is a great map of AC and the perimeter area also at www.acmap.com
For the locations that I mentioned above, click on the perimeter map and section P5 to find them.
Atlantis and Dollhouse have WAY better facilities, WAY more lookers, but MUCH less likely to produce GFE. The Prima Donnas tend to gravitate to those two bars in particular. Also, they have more Taller girls and more white skinned girls (owned by Koreans hence they hire the preferred look of Koreans).
Actually The Doll House Group (Doll House, Atlantis, Crystal Palace and Tropix) are owned by an American. It use to be two Americans, but some months ago, the other partner passed away.
hello poopbunny,
any favourite bars on perimeter street?
if i decide to take a break from the hobby and just go for a drink and talk with some other mongers are some bars you recommend?
one question which has crossed my mind i forgot to ask are pi girls open for a threesome?
cheers
bigdan
my favorite bars on perimeter (meaning the ones that i make sure are on my bar hops when friends are in town and/or that i visit on a regular basis) are:
lia (lost in asia)
stargate
tartz (but lately it has been hit or miss, they seem to have a high girl change over rate there)
cherry's club (do not let the name fool you, they have had a great line up the past few months and many non cherry girls)
emotions (good bar but in bar pictures are highly frowned upon, basically not allowed)
fire and ice (recently a great line up)
matrix brawn (smaller bj type of bar, but the girls here "know" their jobs and they are great at it.
for talking with other guys and relaxing (meaning not on the hunt), lia for sure, just sit at the "managers table", this is what the large table that many bars have, it is usually where you can find the manager sitting/standing at or near. another option is the "big table" at kokomo's. this serves as sort of a defacto meeting place for guys who are looking to hang out or are trying to get a bar hop buddy.
there are a fair amount of girls in the pi that will do 3-somes and lez action. my best advice is to talk with the manager of the bar you are in (for perimeter road bars) and talk to the mamasan (fields ave bars), they will be your best source of information as to which girls do and do not play well with other girls.
If I was 30ish, I could do a lot better than AC - and did. You obviously aren't interested in that.
I've had some great times with regular women, despite being 40ish and bald (or as you say "ballish").
bald bald bald...
Hope you have a wonderful 16 days in AC.
Where are you from?Where do you stay?
After that, improvise!
X
Dear X Man,
I think you might get me wrong, or I have taken you the wrong way, I sent you a private message, and you told me before I ask questions I should let you know my intentions, it sounded to me my questions were not valid less I give you a detailed report.
funny enough I do respect you as a regular poster on this board, if you have any tips I will be open for your suggestions.
I still havent booked flight or Hotel that´s why I was seeking advice, but I plan to do very soon, I hope Central Park will be available.
Regarding my Nationallity, I come from a small country so I would rather not list it on the forum.
But if you are intersted you could sent me a private message.
Piece
Regards
Bigdan
Also try Touch of Class Bar. Same owner as Emotions on Perimeter. GreaT Perimeter Bar and I know that this is an after thought but good food too.
HornyGeorge
08-27-08, 23:00
Acf: Did the Americans buy out the Koreans? I am almost certain I read (and was told) DH was built by a Korean group. Maybe they sold to buy new "Korean Only" bars up in Friendship.
Regardless of ownership, it is RUN LIKE A KOREAN BAR! The DJ's incomprehensible muttering, which is does constantly, is very annoying.
BD: If you are REALLY looking for non pros AC is one of the worst places in the country. The nonpros that live there will not want to be seen in public with you (because everyone will assume they are a hooker). Plus there is ZERO novelty to being a foreigner in AC. The fact you are from a small country may help you in some places, NOT in the PI. The PI has an America first complex (America comes first in their minds, everything else is inferior).
I have a Canadian friend with a chip on his shoulder about the US and when he went to the PI he basically gave his customary spiel about Canada and the US. Not surprisingly (to me at least), he did NOT do well at all. Even without taking a domestic flight (this is NOT Indonesia where aviation safety is abysmal, and traveling by land is MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than flying, so your aversion to taking a domestic flight is perplexing), you could take a bus either North or South and find WAY better nonpros options.
Baguio and the mountains are NOT where you should go, but the whole NW coast is fertile ground. Going South to Bicol, which is famous for lovely women and spicy food, is another option. Even the provinces only a couple hours South of Manila can be good for that.
One note: staying in dumpy hotels (like Central Park) will NOT help you at all in the nonpro hunt. Dress nicely, and stay at nicer hotels than you can really afford (hotels in Angeles are the most overpriced in all the PI save perhaps Makati) to impress.
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I'm going to the Angeles City in April.
I'm thinking of staying at Angeles Beach Club or Wild Orchid Resort.
Which one is close to the action?
The rooms at ABC look kool.
Thanks
i didn't see any head being given.
they've been busted before so they're a little discreet now. the action happens either in a dark corner in the back or else in a really awful little room upstairs. occasionally you can find a decent girl in there, in which case it's worth the p180 to take her to the sunlight lodge just around the back corner.
Hi guys,
BD and other newbies to this forum,
all in all what to do and where to go it mentione allready in here.
Actually its like this. Noon or afternoon barhop can be done at the bars along perimeter road which is an extention of the fields road.
Bigger bars and more frequent are those at fields and side streets, but also smaller bars can be found there. Its allways hard to say what is a good bar and whats not. You have a wider option and display of gurls at bigger bars, smaller in smaller bars, comon sense, right?
2 days ago I found some stunners at Atlantis and one who catched my attraction was in Las vegas. Those bars I just mentioned can be access by walking if you stay at those hotels: Pacific Breeze, Royal Amsterdam, Central Park, wild orchid, Orchid Inn, Swiss chalet.
Swiss chalet and Central park are mostly fully booked, so you try your luck and book ahead. In high season you wont have much luck staying there, cause they have a lot of regular guests.
More info on that and also on bars you can find under: www.balibago.com
Im a picky guy, cause I live here and sometimes Im quite fed up with hookers, specially if they noisy etc etc etc..I go to AC mostly to met selected girls, which I either know from frequently visited bars, or my regular or also some new gems. Last time I got sick by flue and had to take antibiotics and I couldnt drink any beer at all. It was a nightmare, I cant barhop without havin a sm light, cant stand it, went back to my room after seeing two bars.
However, for afternoon fun you can see Bodyshop, 2 papasans over there and quite cute gurls. Open 2pm, closed around 3am. I also went to birdcage, just a few meters walk from bodyshop and they had some cute doorgirls and nice waitress inside the bar. So you can score their easily.
Bigger bars are flocked mostly by asian guys, mostly koreans now, so girls are picky there, specially the so called hotspotdancers in DH, Atlantis, Crystal palace and Tropix. Their barfine is 3k and they mostly tend to go with asian guys, small dick and quick fuck :D Cant blame them, but they also go with western guys, depends on their mood, if their sugardaddy aint around, etc , etc.
I rememberd myself when I didnt live in Philippines and just went to Angeles city for vacation. You can do either fuck evry night a different girl from different bars and if you both "click" you can do a sidetrip to Subic, Boracay or Puerto Galera, which can be all arranged from Angeles city travel agencys.
Honestly, once I went to Angeles city, I hardly couldnt make me to go anywhere else :D I just wanted to stay in a nice quiet resort where I feel comfortable, enjoy the food, sleep or swim and get ready by around 6.30pm for my nightly hunt for the ladies.
Important is you need a cellphone and a SIMcard to keep in touch with the girls. Sometimes they(mostly the stunners) got barfined allready and all you can do is,get their numbers , stay in touch and meet them before or after work or just txt them to make sure tonight its your turn.SMART is marketleader, so you get yourself a SMART sim. I have many SIMS, but thats another story :D
Time is money and your on holiday, dont waste time with meeting girls who looking either for a husband or a shopping partner. Its also ok, to set up contacts with girls from websites, paid (acm, abc, cherryblossom,filipina heart etc) or free DIA(dateinasia.com)but make sure what you want, but on the other way be nice, dont talk about sex in chat, dont let somebody pick you up from the airport, meet them when you have a time. Thats why you need to collect cp numbers and have your simcard ready when you in the Philippines. SIM can be bought in evry sari sari store or any 7/11 shop.
If your flight arrives late or early during the day. YOu should think either going direct to Angeles city or having a night out in Manila.
Allways know that there is allways traffic and you can avoid a bit of this by planing your trips to a certain time of the day.
Thats why you will like Angeles city more then Manila, its smaller, you dont need to get a cab when going from A to B, unlike Manila, you cant hardly walk and if, you only in one area and for the other areas you have to take a cab and deal with the traffic, which sucks, but , hey I live here, thats why I allways go off Manila at weekend to get some healhy sleep and air and relaxation. So holidaywise ANgeles city is your place to go. Better value for money in girls and also hotels, food, etc.
Going to the Philippines with some internetcontacts and also going to places like Angeles city is a good garantee for a pretty nice mongering adventure.
Use condoms!!
Blink
Sigh....I thought we were finished with this?
NOTE: I'm not asking for any information from you. I'm trying to explain how giving information helps people give you more appropriate answers.
I answered your pm questions as best I could with the limited info I had. (I think I suggested Subic as an alt. destination - as others have since, and I gave you contact for a cheap hotel). I posted it on the board and DID NOT quote you. My suggestion to give more details was a general comment to all newcomers who ask for information. By more details, a rough idea of your age, exp. in Asia, what you want to do in PI.
For example, if you are 30ish, you'll have much better luck scoring regular women (esp. outside of AC) than some guy who is 65 and appears to be about ten months pregnant.
In the last few days, at least one person has said spend the whole 16 days in AC, and others have said they would go crazy spending that much time in AC. Having more information about WHAT YOU WANT TO DO in the Philippines would make it easier for people to give advice. When I asked for your "intentions", I simply meant what do you intend to do, to accomplish, in the Philippines?
Do you want to drink and fk your brains out? Stay in AC!
Do you want to experience the culture / country? Don't stay long in AC!
Do you want a girlfriend / potential wife? Don't stay long in AC!
Anyway, from your subsequent posts I've learned that you have a youngish liver, don't want to fly domestic, and want some sexual adventure. I assume you'll fly into MNL, so spend a few days there, then go to AC. If you get bored in AC, go to Subic Bay.
Central Park is a decent hotel in that price range. If you don't start bar hopping at noon, you'll have plenty of time to pop into some other hotels and check out what they offer. Just ask to see a room.
X
PS: Blink has done a good job summarizing the mnl vs ac question. I'll add that MNL has better shopping centers, many places with live music, and a few alternative daytime activities -- not the least of which is LA cafe (open 24/7).
Dear X Man,
I think you might get me wrong, or I have taken you the wrong way, I sent you a private message, and you told me before I ask questions I should let you know my intentions, it sounded to me my questions were not valid less I give you a detailed report.
funny enough I do respect you as a regular poster on this board, if you have any tips I will be open for your suggestions.
I still havent booked flight or Hotel that´s why I was seeking advice, but I plan to do very soon, I hope Central Park will be available.
Regarding my Nationallity, I come from a small country so I would rather not list it on the forum.
But if you are intersted you could sent me a private message.
Piece
Regards
Bigdan
II'm thinking of staying at Angeles Beach Club or Wild Orchid Resort. Which one is close to the action?
Wild Orchid is a minute's walk from the main strip, ABC 5-10 minutes depending how drunk you are.
Jimmy Red Cab
08-28-08, 13:05
I'm going to the Angeles City in April.
I'm thinking of staying at Angeles Beach Club or Wild Orchid Resort.
Which one is close to the action?
The rooms at ABC look kool.
Thanks
You may find this map useful ---------
http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5
Thanks guys,
For your helpful information, X Man I am thankful for it.
OK my Itention was originaly to go to AC as it was recommended by a friend of mine for GFE, Reading reports the best places seem to be places with no tourist attrection. I was hoping to stay in one place. I guess Manila & AC are not far from each other.(without a flight)
My friend had told me that lot of the girls are seeking for Husbands the Bargirls in AC, but X Man I am not qustioning your opinion. My friend is a bit older than me.
OK lets bend it a bit if I decide on Sidetrip looking for freebies for example in Discos, Shopping mals, even on Beaches what do you recommend?
I am not really looking for culture less I would take a girl out not on my own. I hope I have added most of my desires. Regarding food this is not a big topic for me I am not over fussy on that.
Bigdan
One note: staying in dumpy hotels (like Central Park) will NOT help you at all in the nonpro hunt. Dress nicely, and stay at nicer hotels than you can really afford (hotels in Angeles are the most overpriced in all the PI save perhaps Makati) to impress.
HG,
These girls you are referring to have a good name this is called Gold Diggers, I dont think the girl is worth it if you have to be booking posh hotels to disere her or make her interested.
It was a saying an old friend of mine made, if the girl is more interested in the decoration in the hotel room and the Hotel facillites than yourself, Things are pretty bad.
I might take my suit with me to other Euroepan countries but not in Hot Countries like Asia, but I dress reasonable.
Thanks
Bigdan
You can not go wrong in location with ABC Hotel or Wild Orchid in terms of location and quality. You ask which is closer is like am i next door or across the street. I personal prefer Wild Orchid over ABC only because they have a great pool which the girls love. Besides if you just want a BJ just cross the street literally and enjoy blow row. Fields is only 25 yards away as well.
Your friend is correct that the girls in the bars would love to snag a husband, but I question the wisdom of finding a wife in a brothel.
Despite what someone said earlier, you can meet regular women in AC. I met one lady on the Internet and when I got to AC she was a maid at Orchid. Luckily I wasn't staying at the Orchid, he, he....
But it's hard to put much effort into reg. women in AC when you know you can walk into a bar and have a cutey sitting on your lap as quickly as you can say, "a drink for her."
You could set things up on the Internet...(see the chat / pen pal thread) and in country make sure you get yourself a phone and have some cards printed -- or just write up your own. Consider including an email address (the gals usually use Yahoo) Pass out a few cards at the mall (or in the bars) and your phone will be buzzing in no time.
See picture: I had paid a bar fine, but while my "date" was changing clothes, I struck up a conversation with this one. I slipped her my card. She texted me and said she was "born horny". She later proved it. The phone paid for itself with just that one contact.
X
Thanks guys,
For your helpful information, X Man I am thankful for it.
OK my Itention was originaly to go to AC as it was recommended by a friend of mine for GFE, Reading reports the best places seem to be places with no tourist attrection. I was hoping to stay in one place. I guess Manila & AC are not far from each other.(without a flight)
My friend had told me that lot of the girls are seeking for Husbands the Bargirls in AC, but X Man I am not qustioning your opinion. My friend is a bit older than me.
OK lets bend it a bit if I decide on Sidetrip looking for freebies for example in Discos, Shopping mals, even on Beaches what do you recommend?
I am not really looking for culture less I would take a girl out not on my own. I hope I have added most of my desires. Regarding food this is not a big topic for me I am not over fussy on that.
Bigdan
HG, you are basically correct, but I've dated several non-pros in AC. Some were from out of down, so they usually don't give a sht what others think. Some were Pampangans.
Nevertheless....Smile at 10 good looking women in the mall at Davao or Tagbilaran or Ormoc and you will get about eight smiles back. Probably only half that in the AC mall. Concur that AC isn't the place to hunt for regular women.
Absolutely agree about hotels (esp for non-pros). It doesn't have to be five-star, but a nice place and/or nice view and you've allowed them to experience something they may never have had before. Gets 'em wet!
Swimming pools are a great way to get a reg. girl to your hotel...and she has to change clothes somewhere....
I met a Negros girl in Cebu city. We got in the elevator to go up to my room. I got some kind of strange reaction.... I asked her, "What happened?".
She replied, "It's my first time." (Oh, shit -- a virgin????)
X Man, "First time with a foreign man?"
Negros gal with a confused look, "First time in an elevator."
X
[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]
BD: If you are REALLY looking for non pros AC is one of the worst places in the country. The nonpros that live there will not want to be seen in public with you (because everyone will assume they are a hooker).
One note: staying in dumpy hotels (like Central Park) will NOT help you at all in the nonpro hunt. Dress nicely, and stay at nicer hotels than you can really afford (hotels in Angeles are the most overpriced in all the PI save perhaps Makati) to impress.
[QUOTE]
Going South to Bicol, which is famous for lovely women and spicy food, is another option.
I just got back today from a week in Bicol and can second that. Small expat communities in Naga and Legaspi but otherwise it still feels remarkably off the tourist/expat track, and with a corresponding amount of interest in the single male westerner. As so often, it was the ugliest and most boring-looking town (Daet) that proved the friendliest.
You could set things up on the Internet...(see the chat / pen pal thread) and in country make sure you get yourself a phone and have some cards printed -- or just write up your own. Consider including an email address (the gals usually use Yahoo) Pass out a few cards at the mall (or in the bars) and your phone will be buzzing in no time.
Thanks for the recommendation regarding the Internet.
What about Discos and perhaps some beaches not too far away from Manila?
I would agree to you about girls working in bars not being a potential wife at least not for me.
Bigdan
PS I can agree not staying in a dump, but what is wrong with Central Park ? Just because it does not have a pool, if the rooms are nice and clean and with a friendly reception that is really all you need. Especially if you can use the pool at Pacific Breeze
Andre Cuipers
08-28-08, 18:56
I don't beleive any of what you all say.
The (stupid/poor? ) young girls who will go with any old foreighner are the one who are in need for MONEY! A rich Pinay won't look at us. And a poor (but I think we see only the verry verry poor) are already glad they have an aircon in the room.
Further. The most western men sit in the 2000P and higher hotels. If you take a 1000P hotel your non pro girl is not confrontated with all the huge western hooker men. But just with local couples.
But if you talk about reel dollars (like 200$ a day) you have a hotel without all the cheap hookers and huge western men. The lady will think you are a millionair. But then the free sex is a little overpaid I think. Even then better take a 1000P hotel and a 1000P LT girl. And for the real once like me. I prefer 2 girls at 1000P LT each. Thats hard to get for free.
Andre
HG, you are basically correct, but I've dated several non-pros in AC. Some were from out of down, so they usually don't give a sht what others think. Some were Pampangans.
Nevertheless....Smile at 10 good looking women in the mall at Davao or Tagbilaran or Ormoc and you will get about eight smiles back. Probably only half that in the AC mall. Concur that AC isn't the place to hunt for regular women.
Absolutely agree about hotels (esp for non-pros). It doesn't have to be five-star, but a nice place and/or nice view and you've allowed them to experience something they may never have had before. Gets 'em wet!
Swimming pools are a great way to get a reg. girl to your hotel...and she has to change clothes somewhere....
I met a Negros girl in Cebu city. We got in the elevator to go up to my room. I got some kind of strange reaction.... I asked her, "What happened?".
She replied, "It's my first time." (Oh, shit -- a virgin????)
X Man, "First time with a foreign man?"
Negros gal with a confused look, "First time in an elevator."
X
[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]
BD: If you are REALLY looking for non pros AC is one of the worst places in the country. The nonpros that live there will not want to be seen in public with you (because everyone will assume they are a hooker).
One note: staying in dumpy hotels (like Central Park) will NOT help you at all in the nonpro hunt. Dress nicely, and stay at nicer hotels than you can really afford (hotels in Angeles are the most overpriced in all the PI save perhaps Makati) to impress.
[QUOTE]
Hunny Buns
08-28-08, 22:16
Your friend is correct that the girls in the bars would love to snag a husband, but I question the wisdom of finding a wife in a brothel.This is just so true and funny. Just can't help but laugh out loud! Classic!
Hunny Buns
08-28-08, 22:35
There are tons of discos and clubs in manila that you can pick up a different girl every night. Just like anywhere else in the world. You look good, smell better, know how to move, speak well, and of foreign breed (must look like you have money), then your Manila is your hunting ground.
Tell you what, instead of driving everyone here crazy, post a photo of yourself, and I'm sure the experts here can tell you in a heartbeat, where you can score the most.
In order of hierarchy of scoring freebies: 1. You look like a model: Embassy, Jaipur and top tier clubs in respected cities. Well, I would say only in Manila and Cebu applies. You'll pick up model wannabes that are hot to look at and even hotter to touch. Yes, it's free.
2. You look respectable with money. Example, a hottie with you doesn't get too much stare as in. "why is that hot girl with that guy": Top tier malls like GB, Alaya Alabang malls in region, however, the hottest of the hot will not want to be seen with you as they might be perceived as "another filipina who is marrying for money". If you fit this category, then your best chance is to hit on normal working girls who want to better their life. Thinking marrying up would be a short cut. Like hot waitresses, real estate agents, and the likes. Just ask them. Never hurts.
3. You look like you are in Phil trying to hook up with young girls. Example, no matter who you are with, you will give an impression that there is some kind of 'arrangement' either for sex or you're the foreign fish the Filipina has caught saving the whole clan in the province. Fish for girls who want to better the life for the family, usually she is the prettiest of the family and the father (usually) will shop her around to the highest bidder. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement, so just enjoy it.
4. You look handicapped, just pay and enjoy.
Hope no one is offended by this. It's kinda in JEST, but the point is. There's something for everyone, and everyone's needs are different, so unless you really specify what you are looking for, you can't get a straight answer. Like if you ask me, I would say, just go to Embassy, but most people won't even be get in.
Thanks for the recommendation regarding the Internet.
What about Discos and perhaps some beaches not too far away from Manila?
I would agree to you about girls working in bars not being a potential wife at least not for me.
Bigdan
PS I can agree not staying in a dump, but what is wrong with Central Park ? Just because it does not have a pool, if the rooms are nice and clean and with a friendly reception that is really all you need. Especially if you can use the pool at Pacific Breeze
HornyGeorge
08-29-08, 00:21
Xman: of course there are exceptions, and I've met a couple nice girls in AC too. But if meeting non pros was my objective (heck it happens too often even when you don't try! ) I would NOT go to AC. Or if I did go to AC I would NOT tell the nice girls I have been there, Even sheltered girls from the boondocks have HEARD about AC and KNOW what it is famous for. If you say you've been there. .
BD: NOT suggesting you bring a suit (that is crazy); what I am saying is that wearing the "angeles uniform" (baggy shorts, tshirt and flipflops) will NOT help you get "freebies". Now about that word, there are VERY few true "freebies" in the PI (or anywhere for that matter). The anecdotes about rich stunners paying for the guy, or even their own way, are VERY rare (and many are lies IMHO). You may not pay per sex act or per night, but you WILL pay I promise you.
Central Park is old and worn. You'll will see that when you get there. There is a REASON it costs half of Pacific Breeze. You will see that PB is the best compromise between luxury and value. ABC and Wild Orchid (and Lewis Grand if you REALLY want to burn money) are absolutely overpriced and poor value. Stop. End of discussion. Central Park, America Hotel, Woodland park etc are good value, but far from luxurious or particularly clean. PB has the best location bar none, is very new and clean, has great staff and is reasonably priced at under US$50 (35 Euros).
There are no great beaches near Manila. You would have to take a domestic flight (or a 14 hour bus ride to Pagudpud! ) if you want a World class beach. If you are satisfied with mediocre beaches then Subic and/or Batangas are not too long a drive at all.
atlantis is a must if you are a popcorn lover! you don't have to barfine the 3000 peso girls as poopbunny will attest. ok maybe he won't but i certainly had fun without going high price.
the brass knob guarantees its girls to do what they agree to. make sure you do a complete interview.
emma is the mamasan at caddy shack. talk with her and let her know what you like and she will give you a reccomendation. worked for me. she is a deliteful person.
as far as a threesome. make it part of your interview then take your first barfine and have her help pick out the second.
girls don't like to do business when they are menstruating. even if they say it doesn't matter. it does.
hello poopbunny,
that´s more like it i will put atlantis on my list of bars.
that is on fields?
any favourite bars on perimeter street?
if i decide to take a break from the hobby and just go for a drink and talk with some other mongers are some bars you recommend?
one question which has crossed my mind i forgot to ask are pi girls open for a threesome?
cheers
bigdan
Thanks for the recommendation regarding the Internet.
What about Discos and perhaps some beaches not too far away from Manila?
I would agree to you about girls working in bars not being a potential wife at least not for me.
Bigdan
PS I can agree not staying in a dump, but what is wrong with Central Park ? Just because it does not have a pool, if the rooms are nice and clean and with a friendly reception that is really all you need. Especially if you can use the pool at Pacific Breeze
Hi,
dont worry central park is a nice place, good value for money. I use tostay there evry weekend, but now I stay at orchid inn, enjoy sittin at the pool, but you cn do this also at any other hotel and for PB you dont have to pay anything cause its the same owner who runs both places.
Beaches not far from manila, well, except manila bay, I would recomand Puerto galera, which has some discos and girlie bars too. You need to travel at least 5 hours to Puerto Galera. First you hop on a bus going straight to Batangas. I guess the bus is leaving around 9am from a hotel in Manila,name escapes me now,but Im sure some monger will help me out here. You can also stay there, its good value for money.3 or 4 hours later your in Batangas, then you need to take a ferry /bangka to Puerto Galera. 16 days aint much long, but if you like to stay a night in Manila, then next day go to PG for a couple of days and then head for a week to AC it would be also ok. Depends how you wake up the next morning and with whom :D Another option is , you take a girl you like with you to PG, but then you chained to that one . LOL.
I would recomand you party one night in Manila, go straight to AC and then take a girl and see Subic. I was told by my GF they have some deserted beaches with clean water not far from Olongapo, a bangka will take you there.
Maybe I try this weekend. I really liked it there last weekend, sitting at the beach, having a cold SM light a pretty sexy girl (post pictures laters) beside me and enjoying the great food from blue rock resto.
I tell you this, cause you dont want to deal with traffic in your holidays. You from Europe, you will go there winter time, you have to adjust to the weather. Its a difference from at least 25 to 30 degrees, which takes some time.
Another tip, avoid turning aircon on. Allways turn off aircon after takin a shower. Take some more showers when you here. CP has ceiling fan, so try to sleep at night without aircon, just with fan, you dont really need it. You will coming in the cold dry season. This is just my long term experience with getting sick and flue during the holidays because of the f..n aircon.
Also for the night humping on your GF, turn off the aircon, you will sweat and then its cold, perfect for a flue.
When you in PI get some rubbing alcohol. It kills germs. Rub ur dick after shower(with the alcohol of course), ur genital parts, hands etc etc. I just got a nasty skin iritation, not sure from what, Its better now, but I could easily avoid that with taking care a bit of myself.
That will be all, Im working a bit and then go to AC laters. Lets see if I can manage this time to meet some new stunners, without losing my regular ones :D
Life can be a *****, but its ok
Blink
Professional
08-29-08, 05:01
She replied, "It's my first time." (Oh, shit -- a virgin?)
X Man, "First time with a foreign man?"
Negros gal with a confused look, "First time in an elevator."
XVery funny!
I don’t know where you get the idea that you have to burn money to stay at Lewis Grand.
Most of Pacific Breezes rooms are USD57 and for the Jacuzzi USD75. This makes Lewis room rates only about 33% - 40% more than PB (for comparable rooms, if they can even compare), but Lewis’ rooms are IMO 100% better. 33% on top of USD57 can hardly be called burning money.
Online, ABC list their low off season rate as USD99 (about Php4500) per night for standard room and USD119 (about Php5400) per night for the room with Jacuzzi. Wild Orchid is not far behind.
A deluxe at Lewis ranges from Php3250 deluxe king to Php3900 for grand deluxe. If you want a Jacuzzi you get that in the super large executive king for Php4750.
Unless my math deceives me, Lewis is cheaper than ABC. Lewis is newer, IMHO more tastefully decorated, which makes it better value hands down.
Maybe it would be better for me if you fellow mongers stayed away from Lewis, this would make it easier for me to get rooms when I go back there.
Central Park is old and worn. You'll will see that when you get there. There is a REASON it costs half of Pacific Breeze. You will see that PB is the best compromise between luxury and value. ABC and Wild Orchid (and Lewis Grand if you REALLY want to burn money) are absolutely overpriced and poor value. Stop. End of discussion. Central Park, America Hotel, Woodland park etc are good value, but far from luxurious or particularly clean. PB has the best location bar none, is very new and clean, has great staff and is reasonably priced at under US$50 (35 Euros).
Hi,
saw a video from you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlW2aOUoC0A&feature=related
guess now I know what kind of guys stay there, well not me :D
Btw I fucked the pretty slim chick in PB some time ago.Havent seen her yet, but maybe she got a sugardaddy now who dont care to burn his money.
For the guys out there who still argue about what is the best hotel I can tell evrybody has his own choice.
If you on holiday and you have enough money to burn , you free to do so.
Just dont overpay the girls, if you like to stay in a fancy hotel, why not. I also dont stay in a dump, but I like mine near the action. If you like perimeter action you really dont need to stay at Lewis grand.Got my point now? :D
The smart monger come to Angeles city or other southeastasian destination in off season. Rooms are cheaper, bars more emptier and girls more hungry.
I go to AC evry weekend and I dont mind guys staying in a 100 US or more hotel or staying under the AC bridge :D, I just mind you guys not to overpay the hookers, cause thats what they are. Hookers. AC is a dream and phantasy city. We all hunsome there, cause we got the pera.
If you ugly you have to pay a bit more, if your young and hunsome you have to pay also, sometimes I see young guys with girls I dont even want to shake hands with. Im not sure why they come to the Philippines to fuck dogs. Even they free, I wont fuck them. But hey, its fine with me, cause I get the pretty ones lined up after work in my room.
I would quote Wild orchid as one of the best choices to stay in AC. They near the action and have the best pool area and well decorated rooms.
Pacific Breeze is also a very good option and a good value for money. Make sure you stay in the main building. The other building is near to the noise on fields and there is allways some construction going on. I really dont know why is that, but working with pinoys/pinays myself I get the idea.
Happy hunting! Use condoms!Drink more beer!
Blink
I noticed another monger mentioned Woodland Park as one of the budget options.
Some complain about the occasional smell from the pig farm, but I never really noticed that. The main problem to some is the 15 minute walk to Fields along the highway. I didn't mind that and it's pretty easy to catch a trike there or back (there was a really good trike driver at Woodlands I always used to use).
One real negative for me is they often have a lot of mosquitos from all the water and vegetation around.
Overall though I really liked staying there. The rooms were nothing glamorous, but very big and quiet (except for the occassional party from one of the neighbours) and good value. And the pool (I was told) is olympic size. Massive and looks clean. Also the staff were very friendly and competent. There were so few rooms there and so much space and greenery around it was like being in a resort.
One funny thing is I was told (no idea if it's true or not) is that the neighbour is an army general who does whatever he wants The story was that he caused Woodlands quite a few problems, but clearly he was not the sort of guy you want to have a fight with!
I stayed there many, many times over quite a few years. Unfortunately the manager there was so rude and bad to her employees (and often the customers) I couldn't stand being there any more.
Many of the employees complained to me about the way they were treated, in spite of working hard for very little money, and I witnessed her rudeness to guests on quite a few occassions.
Many guests left because of the attitude of the manager.
I helped one of the receptionists to leave Woodlands to go and work overseas and she fills me on what's happening there (some of her friends still work there). She told me that the occupancy is pretty low now, in contrast to many of the hotels near Fields which are very professionally run.
My friend just told me that Woodlands is on the market. It would be great if a good manager would buy it and treat the customers and workers well. If that happened, I would stay there again.
The problem for any potential buyer I would guess is there are relatively few rooms and a massive area (with comensurate high costs). Not a good business equation.
Still sometimes I miss the quietness and seclusion of Woodlands. Just being around all the trees and green and enjoying the huge pool is a welcome change from the chaos of Fields.
But as long as it is so badly managed, I would not stay there.
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I noticed another post mentioned Woodland Park as one of the budget options.
Some complain about the occasional smell from the pig farm, but I never really noticed that. Some people also don’t like the 15 minute walk to Fields along the highway. I didn't mind that and it's pretty easy to catch a trike there or back (there was a really good trike driver at Woodlands I always used to use).
One real negative for me was they often had a lot of mosquitos from all the water and vegetation around. The food wasn’t up to the standard of the good hotels either.
Overall though I really liked staying there. The rooms were nothing glamorous, but very big and quiet (except for the occasional party from one of the neighbours) and good value. And the pool (I was told) is Olympic size. Massive and looks clean. Also the staff were very friendly and competent. There were so few rooms there and so much space and greenery around it was like being in a resort.
One funny thing is I was told (no idea if it's true or not) is that the neighbour is an army general who does whatever he wants The story was that he caused Woodlands quite a few problems, but clearly he was not the sort of guy you want to have a fight with!
I stayed there many, many times over quite a few years. Unfortunately the manager there was so rude and bad to her employees (and often the customers) I couldn't stand being there any more (my last visit was a couple of years ago).
Many of the employees complained to me about the way they were treated, in spite of working hard for very little money, and I witnessed her rudeness to guests on quite a few occasions.
Many guests left because of the attitude of the manager.
I helped one of the receptionists to leave Woodlands to go and work overseas and she fills me on what's happening there (some of her friends still work there). She told me that the occupancy is pretty low now, in contrast to many of the hotels near Fields which are very professionally run.
My friend just told me that Woodlands is on the market. It would be great if a good manager would buy it and treat the customers and workers well. If that happened, I would stay there again.
The problem for any potential buyer I would guess is there are relatively few rooms and a massive area (with commensurate high costs). Not a good business equation.
Still sometimes I miss the quietness and seclusion of Woodlands. Just being around all the trees and green and enjoying the huge pool is a welcome change from the chaos of Fields.
But as long as it is so badly managed, I would not stay there. If new management comes in, I would give it another go.
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I noticed a post mentioned Woodland Park as one of the budget options.
Some complain about the occasional smell from the pig farm, but I never really noticed that. Some people also don’t like the 15 minute walk to Fields along the highway. I didn't mind that and it's pretty easy to catch a trike there or back (there was a really good trike driver at Woodlands I always used to use).
One real negative for me was they often had a lot of mosquitoes from all the water and vegetation around. The food wasn’t up to the standard of the good hotels either.
Overall though I really liked staying there. The rooms were nothing glamorous, but very big and quiet (except for the occasional party from one of the neighbours) and good value. And the pool (I was told) is Olympic size. Massive and looks clean. Also the staff were very friendly and competent. There were so few rooms there and so much space and greenery around it was like being in a resort.
One funny thing is I was told (no idea if it's true or not) is that the neighbour is an army general who does whatever he wants! The story was that he caused Woodlands quite a few problems, but clearly he was not the sort of guy you want to have a fight with!
I stayed there many, many times over quite a few years. Unfortunately the manager there was so rude and bad to her employees (and often the customers) I couldn't stand being there any more.
Many of the employees complained to me about the way they were treated, in spite of working hard for very little money, and I witnessed her rudeness to guests on quite a few occasions.
Many guests left because of the attitude of the manager.
I helped one of the receptionists to leave Woodlands to go and work overseas and she fills me on what's happening there (some of her friends still work there). She told me that the occupancy is pretty low now, in contrast to many of the hotels near Fields which are very professionally run.
My friend just told me that Woodlands is on the market. It would be great if a good manager would buy it and treat the customers and workers well. If that happened, I would stay there again.
The problem for any potential buyer I would guess is there are relatively few rooms and a massive area (with commensurate high costs). Not a good business equation.
Still sometimes I miss the quietness and seclusion of Woodlands. Just being around all the trees and green and enjoying the huge pool is a welcome change from the chaos of Fields.
But as long as it is so badly managed, I would not stay there. If new management comes in, I would give it another go. It has the potential to be a very relaxing resort hotel, not just a place to stay.
Beaches not far from manila, well, except manila bay, I would recomand Puerto galera, which has some discos and girlie bars too. You need to travel at least 5 hours to Puerto Galera. Hi Blink, The Funny thing as you menton Puerto Galera I have been doing some research on that, also a British friend who lives in Indonesa told me some British friends of his had a fantastic time there. I have been checking out http://www.puertogalera.org/ but I was not sure this was 5 hour ride from Manila, What from AC?
Bigger bars are flocked mostly by asian guys, mostly koreans now, so girls are picky there, specially the so called hotspotdancers in DH, Atlantis, Crystal palace and Tropix. Their barfine is 3k and they mostly tend to go with asian guys, small dick and quick fuck Cant blame them. Still I think it is getting bad if the girls like the more money and small dick instead of good Western Big tools. Don´t you agree?
dont worry central park is a nice place, good value for money. I use tostay there evry weekend, but now I stay at orchid inn, enjoy sittin at the pool, but you cn do this also at any other hotel and for PB you dont have to pay anything cause its the same owner who runs both places.. Don´t worry about that Blink, There are always some snobs that will call places like Central Park a dump, we can all agree it is not the best Hotel in PI, but as long as it is clean and respectable it will saticfy my needs. Especially if I stay there for two weeks as originaly planned. If only for 3 nights, you can maybe allow yourelf the little extra as it won´t count for much, but for a longer stay why pay so much for a bed. I am sure you will impress a few girls with a nice Posh Hotel, even more so if you decide on Private Jet Limo into Manila. *LOL*
Bigdan
I was not sure this was 5 hour ride from Manila, What from AC?
Add two hours, plus transfer time. Basically, a full day.
Still I think it is getting bad if the girls like the more money and small dick instead of good Western Big tools.
Well sorry, but that's another big dick fantasy shot down. The girls are just trying to make a living.
Vibrations
08-29-08, 15:33
Btw I fucked the pretty slim chick in PB some time ago.Havent seen her yet, but maybe she got a sugardaddy now who dont care to burn his money.
.....
BlinkWas it a gal called Kim? Wearing braces?
Get on a plane and fly to Honolulu. Take a taxi to Waikiki beach.
Hope you have a good trip.
Dan
Thanks for the recommendation regarding the Internet.
What about Discos and perhaps some beaches not too far away from Manila?
I would agree to you about girls working in bars not being a potential wife at least not for me.
Bigdan
PS I can agree not staying in a dump, but what is wrong with Central Park ? Just because it does not have a pool, if the rooms are nice and clean and with a friendly reception that is really all you need. Especially if you can use the pool at Pacific Breeze
Get on a plane and fly to Honolulu. Take a taxi to Waikiki beach.
Hope you have a good trip.
Dan
X Man, Sorry but I did not get your Humor in that one, We are talking about the Philippines I am going to right!
Don´t worry about that Blink, There are always some snobs that will call places like Central Park a dump, we can all agree it is not the best Hotel in PI, but as long as it is clean and respectable it will saticfie my needs. Especially if I stay there for two weeks as originaly planned. If only for 3 nights, you can maybe allow yourelf the little extra as it won´t count for much, but for a longer stay why pay so much for a bed. I am sure you will impress a few girls with a nice Posh Hotel, even more so if you decide on Private Jet Limo into Manila.
Yes I totally agree! Always try to stay there when I visit. There are many reasons why Central Park has the highest occupancy rate in Angeles! For one they treat the customer like a king!
If you do make it to AC, make sure you hit Skytrax disco!
Yes I totally agree! Always try to stay there when I visit. There are many reasons why Central Park has the highest occupancy rate in Angeles! For one they treat the customer like a king!
If you do make it to AC, make sure you hit Skytrax disco!
I can add it to my list but like most of the guys have said Manila is probably better than AC for Discos:)
HornyGeorge
08-30-08, 00:13
No flame wars over hotels at all. Just stating my opinion and I have stayed at CP once many years ago (when the better places were full). It is in a great location, to be sure and for guys on a tight budget it makes sense.
If Central Park has the "highest occupancy rate" it seems odd that Roselle (manages both) often suggests CP as an alternative when PB is full.
The Oahu Wing is quieter than the main building for sure. NEVER heard Fields Ave noise there at all, nor any problem with construction noise. EVER. And I am very sensitive to noise.
Those discounted rates offered by Lewis Grand are not bad at all. Maybe I will stay there a couple nights, although the location is poor (far from everything meaning you must take a jeepney-I refuse to ride trikes in AC except whee absolutely necessary).
Skytraxx is LOUSY for picking up nonpros.
Puerto Galera is hardly optimal for meeting nonpros either. Centers for prostitution and the best places to meet nonpros NEVER mix IMHO. The presence of loads of hookers and foreign customers is NOT conducive to courting nice girls.
PG is a pain to get to from AC. AT LEAST 5 hours bus ride TO THE FERRY TERMINAL in Batangas, then a 90 minute crossing THEN, you must get from the ferry landing in PG proper to Sabang. Count on a full day. Meanwhile you can take the 10am flight from Angeles and be in downtown Cebu (Fuente) in time for lunch.
Azmodeus Fl
08-30-08, 01:30
What he ment is that are as many filipinos there as there are in the Philippines.
X Man, Sorry but I did not get your Humor in that one, We are talking about the Philippines I am going to right!
Was it a gal called Kim? Wearing braces?
maybe its kim, or kong and maybe she wear braces, dont remember that, because most of the time I saw her butt :D
To make sure its the girl wearing a black t shirt and jeans in the video.
Hope the guy who made the video didnt pay that much money for them, because I didnt :D
Blink
Hi,
read the post about woodland park hotel and agree 100% about the lack of management.
I was a regular guest over there since 12 years, but what they did is only raise the rates and thats it. I remember when I paid 500p something for a standard room and around 1000p for executive room per night.
They fired the waitress and hired baklas, thats was the time it get deserted.
Then they got pinays weddings. Dont like to have a pinoy crowd around me when Im on a holiday. They cater more to them as to a regular guest to me.
All the good staff left, because they get paid quite bad. The female owner got the resort from her taiwanese boyfriend. As you can see its run down , because of pinoy mismanagement. I was a regular but I get never a free drink or anything else there.
It could be the nicest place in AC if they would have a good management, but why tell them. Smart asses should find out themself.
Life is good if you stay in the right place
Blink
Hi,
roaxanne has a live in pinoy bf, so beware , if you fuck her its only short time, cause her bf is waiting her at home
Blink
Hi to all,
today I run into a girl I used to know 5 years ago.
She is staying right now in Orchid Inn with her 2 ugly fat cousins and her bastard and Im sure one unlucky guy paid the room for her, despite knowing her past.
Im thinking to start a threa like"who is the girl I fuck and wanted to married from AC" well, something like that. Just to make sure, you can get the girl out of the bar, but you cant get the bar out of the girl.
Blink
I suspect M is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), but last time I was in AC they seemed to be doing some remodeling at Skytrax. So, maybe it's new an improved?
Nahhhhh, M is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
X
Yes I totally agree! Always try to stay there when I visit. There are many reasons why Central Park has the highest occupancy rate in Angeles! For one they treat the customer like a king!
If you do make it to AC, make sure you hit Skytrax disco!
On my first night at AC, I barfined Roxanne from Atlantis and she actually stayed long time the first night. I fact, she did not leave until about 3pm the next day.
Maybe she liked the splendour and luxury of Lewis Grand to want to leave too quickly.. :P
..or maybe I'm a lot more "hansum" than her pinoy bf, whom I did later bump into on my last night. He was the daggiest looking streetkid, if I ever saw one. If I had to guess his line of work, I would think professional beggar!
Some photos attached in response to an earlier request.
Hi,
roaxanne has a live in pinoy bf, so beware , if you fuck her its only short time, cause her bf is waiting her at home
Blink
No flame wars over hotels at all. Just stating my opinion and I have stayed at CP once many years ago (when the better places were full). It is in a great location, to be sure and for guys on a tight budget it makes sense.
Puerto Galera is hardly optimal for meeting nonpros either. Centers for prostitution and the best places to meet nonpros NEVER mix IMHO. The presence of loads of hookers and foreign customers is NOT conducive to courting nice girls.
PG is a pain to get to from AC. AT LEAST 5 hours bus ride TO THE FERRY TERMINAL in Batangas, then a 90 minute crossing THEN, you must get from the ferry landing in PG proper to Sabang. Count on a full day. Meanwhile you can take the 10am flight from Angeles and be in downtown Cebu (Fuente) in time for lunch.
Horny George,
Fair enough we are all free to air our views. But looking at CP it does not look like a dump even though PB is better. You can belive me I have both stayed in class hotels and real dumps, I was in Radison SAS in London last month, for sure pure class but I don´t need to spend a lot of money just on Hotles. It is just that lot of guys refer Hotels as a dump if they are not 4-5 Star. Personally I like apartments not Hotels, but going to PI the first time I think a Hotel would be a better option.
Regarding PG, It came into interest but the drive distance has but me off to be honest.
I have been reading the Cebu board and maybe I should give it a try and book a domestic flight.
Do you recommend I should arrange this all in advance, or just book for AC and see how it goes?
Regards
Bigdan
BD, like a puppy dog, you are starting to get annoying and I want to give you a swift kick.
At the same time you are such a cute, little, naive, non-native-English speaking, Philippine wannabe that I can't help feeling some nurturing feeling.
Maybe a dose of both...(sorry BD, there's a bit of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) take and a bit of info in the post that follows)
After two or three people suggested Subic Bay, one hour from AC, you sent a post asking about a beach (Waikiki?).
Okay, I'll bend over backwards and inform you that Subic Bay has a beach. Not a great beach, but it has sand, water, beer, and available women. You will find reports in AC section, and Olongapo section. Some respected members have recently mentioned staying at Blue Rock, Wild Orchid, Arizona. All three have pools, beach access, and nearby babe-bars in case you didn't already bring your fiance from an AC brothel.
No need to get on an airplane (you said you didn't want to) and I have no idea why people suggested Puerto Galera. It's a nice place, fair enough, but I would never suggest it to a newcomer. If you do PG or Tagaytay, make sure you have an intersing conversation partner for the long ride. Sex partners, especially the AC variety, don't always make the best conversation partners.
Sixteen days in Luzon, mostly in AC, and you will meet ladies from all areas of the Philippines. Besides Manila, it is one of the most cosmopolitan areas of the Philippines.... and that goes for foreigners as well as the various Philippne Islanders. Ask questions about their hometowns. They will love you for it and you will be educated by an uneducated (by Western standards) woman who spends her AC evenings on a comforable bed, with her legs spread, making money for her family, for her, and for her future. She'sll make you feel good, and more than a few make themselves feel good too. Love em for it.
If you like her, and you overcome your fear of flying domesic, go visit her parents. Don't expect to find a guest room in the one or two room nipa hut shack that she grew up in. But be forewarned that the PC bozos here and there will suggest that meeting parents is unacceptable.
OK, tired of rambling away. BD, I hope you have something intelligent to say/ask for a change.
X man
For someone with more than ten days, I would suggest a trip to Visayans, but you never know about those Philippine airplanes. They fall out of the sky as often as Suplicdo boats crash into the bottom of the ocean.
Bd,
If all you are looking for is a clean room, a fun time, and plenty of girls then just make your arrangmeents to stay in Ac for the whole two weeks. Unlike what many say, you can enjoy yourself plenty for that amount of time. Near the end of it you may be getting bored during the days, but if you are partying it up you will most likely b4e looking just to relax instead of running around anyways.
If you do get bored and decide you want to go someplace else, it is very easy to make other arrangments once your there to travel elsewhere, wether on Luzon or to another of the islands.
There are way to many bars to realy recommend any one above the others, everyone has their own personal preferences. When you get there, bar hop around, check them all out, and you find the ones you like. They are all realy close together, even the ones on Perimeter Road compared to many other parts of the world so it isn't hard to do.
Realy, you can relax on this. If you keep asking all of these questions you are going to be making plans that will probally change within 24 hours of being on the ground anyways. Just make arrangments for the entire time in AC, and modify once you get there as you see fit.
Bd,
If all you are looking for is a clean room, a fun time, and plenty of girls then just make your arrangmeents to stay in Ac for the whole two weeks. Unlike what many say, you can enjoy yourself plenty for that amount of time. Near the end of it you may be getting bored during the days, but if you are partying it up you will most likely b4e looking just to relax instead of running around anyways.
Psdai,
Thanks for your tip, I did not ask too many questions in the beginning, but your idea has acrossed my mind.
I think I will stay most of my stay in AC but might do some nights in the beginning in Manila after a long flight.
Cheers
Bigdan
X Man,
There is not much Intelligence coming from you...Careful, gentlemen! There is a pretty fair chance that Jackson interferes soon! Please do not forget that about two years ago a couple of members were banned after having had defamed each other (eg. Juniour). I think it is better not to risk that! IMHO of course!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Careful, gentlemen! There is a pretty fair chance that Jackson interferes soon! Please do not forget that about two years ago a couple of members were banned after having had defamed each other (eg. Juniour). I think it is better not to risk that! IMHO of course!
Cheers!
HesekielsI agree with you so I decided to delete my message towards X Man, I hope this remains a friendly forum. And I think Jackson is doing a good job with this forum the whole ISG forum.
Bigdan
Vibrations
08-31-08, 14:01
maybe its kim, or kong and maybe she wear braces, dont remember that, because most of the time I saw her butt :D
To make sure its the girl wearing a black t shirt and jeans in the video.
Hope the guy who made the video didnt pay that much money for them, because I didnt :D
BlinkAh. What video? I will be there sometime around 15th September. Anyone wanna go for a SM?
Did I defame someone or did BD? My analogy to "puppy dog" was rather tame I thought. I didn't get to see BDs response -- was he shtting on the carpet again? (Joke)
Junior was actually doing well contributing to the Philippine board, but had problems on the Thai board. His enemies then came over to the Phil. thread and attacked him here. They then disappeared as soon as Junior was banished. I was kind of surprised, but when I read some of the posts on the Thai thread I could see he was part of the problem.
At least that's the way I remember it. I'm not trying to defend Junior, nor criticize Jackson't moderation, but it just shows how things can get out of hand.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to BD's field reports. It will be interesting to see how things turn out for him.
X
Careful, gentlemen! There is a pretty fair chance that Jackson interferes soon! Please do not forget that about two years ago a couple of members were banned after having had defamed each other (eg. Juniour). I think it is better not to risk that! IMHO of course!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Always wondering, how people can get into trouble online.
It's just the web. Who cares?
If someone disagree with me or attacks me, I give a shit on it.
Different opinions, that happens, it's normal, so what??
Real life is going on outside and is much more fun! :D
With greetings from AC! :D
Cheers!
Did I defame someone or did BD? My analogy to "puppy dog" was rather tame I thought. I didn't get to see BDs response -- was he shtting on the carpet again? (Joke)
Junior was actually doing well contributing to the Philippine board, but had problems on the Thai board. His enemies then came over to the Phil. thread and attacked him here. They then disappeared as soon as Junior was banished. I was kind of surprised, but when I read some of the posts on the Thai thread I could see he was part of the problem.
At least that's the way I remember it. I'm not trying to defend Junior, nor criticize Jackson't moderation, but it just shows how things can get out of hand.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to BD's field reports. It will be interesting to see how things turn out for him.
X
X Man,
That is correct things can get out of hand and it is in the forum rules not to attack other members, So I hope me and you can keep this a friendly forum.
Anyway this forum is about Reports and information on Angeles City.
Regarding your message to Jimmy Red Cab, I think most people who plan a trip for the first time will read the first say 3 pages, if they don´t find what they are looking for they start to ask questions. That is at least my opinion. If somebody does not like to repeat what has allready been said, it is very easy just to ignore the post.
Bigdan
Hehe, met a girl yesterday I've barfined 2 or 3 times some time ago. 2005 or so.
But her formerly flat stomach was destroyed.
Me: Hey, you were pregnant?
She: Yeah, got a baby 4 months ago.
Me: And the father? Takes care of you?
She: No.
Me: Why not??
She: I didn't tell him.
Me: Philipino?
She: No, guy from UK.
So, any guys from UK out there, maybe you're father and aren't aware of it.
The lucky shot must have been then approx. July 2007.
Also pretty unusual, that the girl didn't tell the guy about it to get some money.
But who knows? Maybe even she isn't sure about it.
Stories in this bizarre place.... :D
Cheers!
I don’t know whether it is conscience or paternal instinct but I could not bear the thought that I would have a child languishing in poverty anywhere.
If I was told about it, I would engage a local independent lawyer or something to arrange blood test for DNA to verify paternity. If I was indeed the father, I would make arrangement to send money and seek immigration consultants to repatriate them if possible or if not, make frequent visits to AC (that can’t be bad).
And that is just the easy part, the toughest part would be breaking the news to mum/dad, thank god I’m single.
Some years ago I had a good thing going with this tight hottie. One day she told me I got her pregnant but she terminated the pregnancy. She was on the pill, but apparently that stops working when you are on antibiotics. I never saw her again despite my efforts to contact her. I live in a country where single mothers are supported with a generous welfare system, so I often wondered if maybe she lied to me and I might have an offspring somewhere.
Hehe, met a girl yesterday I've barfined 2 or 3 times some time ago. 2005 or so.
But her formerly flat stomach was destroyed.
Me: Hey, you were pregnant?
She: Yeah, got a baby 4 months ago.
Me: And the father? Takes care of you?
She: No.
Me: Why not??
She: I didn't tell him.
Me: Philipino?
She: No, guy from UK.
So, any guys from UK out there, maybe you're father and aren't aware of it.
The lucky shot must have been then approx. July 2007.
Also pretty unusual, that the girl didn't tell the guy about it to get some money.
But who knows? Maybe even she isn't sure about it.
Stories in this bizarre place.... :D
Cheers!
i don’t know whether it is conscience or paternal instinct but i could not bear the thought that i would have a child languishing in poverty anywhere.
if i was told about it, i would engage a local independent lawyer or something to arrange blood test for dna to verify paternity. if i was indeed the father, i would make arrangement to send money and seek immigration consultants to repatriate them if possible or if not, make frequent visits to ac (that can’t be bad).
poopbunny,
wow, that's truly a remarkable approach! i could well imagine that virtually every pinay would be most delighted to get pregnant from you! :)
cheers!
hesekiels
Escort Fan
09-03-08, 03:09
Me: Hey, you were pregnant?
She: Yeah, got a baby 4 months ago.
Me: And the father? Takes care of you?
She: No.
Me: Why not??
She: I didn't tell him.
Me: Philipino?
She: No, guy from UK.Typical story. 90% of the girls I've met that showed me their child picture, mentionned the father is a client and often doesn't know about it.
I wonder to what extend some old timers from AC have 18 years later fucked their (might be) daughter
Let's face it girls told me they Bareback with 90% of their clients, and most aren't on the pill, so most of us might be fathers: (
What amazes me is that she can recall which guy is the father, or if that's a fantasy of the client the girl liked the most that she met during her "windows of opportunity".
i don’t know whether it is conscience or paternal instinct but i could not bear the thought that i would have a child languishing in poverty anywhere.
if i was told about it, i would engage a local independent lawyer or something to arrange blood test for dna to verify paternity. if i was indeed the father, i would make arrangement to send money and seek immigration consultants to repatriate them if possible or if not, make frequent visits to ac (that can’t be bad).
and that is just the easy part, the toughest part would be breaking the news to mum/dad, thank god i’m single.
some years ago i had a good thing going with this tight hottie. one day she told me i got her pregnant but she terminated the pregnancy. she was on the pill, but apparently that stops working when you are on antibiotics. i never saw her again despite my efforts to contact her. i live in a country where single mothers are supported with a generous welfare system, so i often wondered if maybe she lied to me and i might have an offspring somewhere.
the guy is not at fault if he did not know... but i still don't understand the logic behind barebacking third world hookers?
Brown Rail
09-03-08, 04:53
i don’t know whether it is conscience or paternal instinct but i could not bear the thought that i would have a child languishing in poverty anywhere.
if i was told about it, i would engage a local independent lawyer or something to arrange blood test for dna to verify paternity. if i was indeed the father, i would make arrangement to send money and seek immigration consultants to repatriate them if possible or if not, make frequent visits to ac (that can’t be bad).
and that is just the easy part, the toughest part would be breaking the news to mum/dad, thank god i’m single.
some years ago i had a good thing going with this tight hottie. one day she told me i got her pregnant but she terminated the pregnancy. she was on the pill, but apparently that stops working when you are on antibiotics. i never saw her again despite my efforts to contact her. i live in a country where single mothers are supported with a generous welfare system, so i often wondered if maybe she lied to me and i might have an offspring somewhere.i have to agree with poopbunny. you have to take responsibility for these things. would you really want your child growing up destitute in the third world?
few things sadder than meeting a half american/half filipino who had no idea about his/her dad.
congratulations poopbunny
it's really good to see a guy taking responsibility for his actions and one who cares about his (potential) kids.
it really amazes me how often you meet filipinas who say the father just left her when she about 6 months pregnant (and no longer sexy). so many guys in the philippines just don't care about the girl - and often the girls are actually very nice people if you get past the 3 f way of thinking.
a few years ago i used to see a receptionist from one of the hotels. then on my next trip there i found out she got pregnant, pretty much at the time i was there.
she said though, that it wasn't mine, but another foreigner (an aussie).
when you calculated the time exactly, it "seemed" she was right. the aussie guy did help her and as she was really nice girl i also helped her a little.
sometimes i think i should help her more. she never asked for money or anything and wanted to just keep working at her job (low salary of course) and be a good mother.
not all girls are bola bola goldiggers.
thanks poopbunny for reinforcing there are caring responsible guys still out there who treat women well.
and please no stupid replies saying all hookers are just for one thing only. that reminds me of an english girl i met once in europe who recently had bad sex with a european guy. the words she used to describe sex with him i will never forget: "he wanked himself in my ****". great way to make love huh! :)
If you manage to impregnate a filipina, and she has the child,, the simplest thing for you to do is to take her and the child to your embassy in Manila and register it. It then automatically has your citizenship, and is entitled to a passport. This gives the child, and her mother, automatic access to your country.
I have known a couple of guys who have done this. It is easy, and most embassies encounter this situation reasonably frequently.
Quicker, simpler, easier and cheaper than going to a lawyer.
And as a citizen, the kid has access to your medical system in case of serious illness.
Gangles
GoodEnough
09-03-08, 14:17
True enough about the child, but not about the lady. She has no right to citizenship whatsoever.
HornyGeorge
09-03-08, 17:35
Ge: You are incorrect. Once the child obtains status as a US citizen, the mother may seek derivative status based on her blood relation to the child.
I completely agree that it is despicable to impregnate a Filipina then never help her with support. LOADS do it, both Filipino and foreigner, because the incompetent government is so fixated on increasing the population at all costs (thanks to the Church which really runs the country) that it neglects to adopt and enforce a child support system.
Khun Larry
09-03-08, 20:45
FYI I received this email today.
Might be interesting to see the target demographic for the the Bangkok - Clark shuttle
K Larry
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If you manage to impregnate a filipina, and she has the child,, the simplest thing for you to do is to take her and the child to your embassy in Manila and register it. It then automatically has your citizenship, and is entitled to a passport. This gives the child, and her mother, automatic access to your country.Gangles
I only know the American Embassy, but this is true, but you have to register the birth with the Embassy within 3 days and the American father must be the one to do it, with the birth certifcate showing his name.
GoodEnough
09-03-08, 23:35
Ge: You are incorrect. Once the child obtains status as a US citizen, the mother may seek derivative status based on her blood relation to the child.
I completely agree that it is despicable to impregnate a Filipina then never help her with support. LOADS do it, both Filipino and foreigner, because the incompetent government is so fixated on increasing the population at all costs (thanks to the Church which really runs the country) that it neglects to adopt and enforce a child support system.
I do not mean to be contentious here, but what I said holds. The mother has no automatic right to citizenship/residency whereas the child does. True, the mother may petition, but the petition may be denied. In the case of the child, so long as the father acknowledges paternity and his name is on the birth certificate, there's an automatic right to citizenship.
If you manage to impregnate a filipina, and she has the child,, the simplest thing for you to do is to take her and the child to your embassy in Manila and register it. It then automatically has your citizenship, and is entitled to a passport. This gives the child, and her mother, automatic access to your country.
GanglesDon't know which country your talking about, but in the UK that is simply not true. I have a friend married to foreigner. They had several children together and lived abroad for several years, they are financially solvent with a healthy bank balance and a couple of properties in the UK. All the children hold British Passports and have British citizenship as they were registered at the Embassy. When he finally returned to the UK they had a lot of problems trying to get a resident visa and she was nearly kicked out (but the children could stay! ). After jumping through hoops for a couple of years she is now closer to getting citizenship. But not there yet.
Puerto La Cruz
09-04-08, 01:55
I do not mean to be contentious here, but what I said holds. The mother has no automatic right to citizenship/residency whereas the child does. True, the mother may petition, but the petition may be denied. In the case of the child, so long as the father acknowledges paternity and his name is on the birth certificate, there's an automatic right to citizenship.
Momma has no rights whatsoever. The child does but the child is deemed legally incompetent until age 18. Child needs daddy or somebody legally appointed on the child's behalf to petition child in, assuming daddy is the real daddy and child is genuinely eligible. Then, its just a matter of processing paperwork. Problem is, if that child is deemed to be a US citizen, who is going to teach that child how to live in this country if he or she finally shows up here at age 22?
Aussie Mate
09-04-08, 02:58
If you manage to impregnate a filipina, and she has the child,, the simplest thing for you to do is to take her and the child to your embassy in Manila and register it. It then automatically has your citizenship, and is entitled to a passport. This gives the child, and her mother, automatic access to your country.
I have known a couple of guys who have done this. It is easy, and most embassies encounter this situation reasonably frequently.
Quicker, simpler, easier and cheaper than going to a lawyer.
And as a citizen, the kid has access to your medical system in case of serious illness.
Gangles
Mate, I have never heard of this. What countries are you talking about? Be more specific!
AM
Member #3443
09-04-08, 03:35
It is called registering a foreign birth. Need to make sure your name is on the birth certificate to register the baby at the embassy.
I only know the American Embassy, but this is true, but you have to register the birth with the Embassy within 3 days and the American father must be the one to do it, with the birth certifcate showing his name.
Not taking shots at anyone here but it’s remarkable that that people use this board as a research tool for important real-world situations like this. Going to your country's Embassy or State Department will certainly give you the right answers as it pertains to you. Also Americans must report their child’s foreign birth as soon as possible before their 18th birthday but certainly not within three days of birth as erroneously reported here and kids are not legally incompetent; they are minors and as such need a parent or guardian to execute transactions on their behalf. For Americans get the correct info from the horse’s mouth below you may be surprised:
http://travel.state.gov/family/adoption/info/info_457.html
http://cambodia.usembassy.gov/birth_abroad.html
Plase go back to my ypost.
I did not say that the mother has immediate rights to citizenship. Far from it.
The child automatically gets citizenship and the passport. The mother gets access via visa as the primary carer for the child. I do not know the specific title of the visa, but it works.
If the mother in in country for long enough, she may apply for permanent residency, and eventually citizenship. But you are talking five years or so.
Gangles
I think U.S. visa works different way.
I have not personally done it but when I went to U.S. embassy in Manila
To add pages in my Passport there was a brochure.
Reading that it says if you have a child out of wedlock you have to register the child with the embassy. No mention is made about the child's mother.
They will get the Paternity tests done. It says if the Paternity is proved
you are liable for the child support even if the child is not in U.S.
By registering you accept the child as your own and are responsible totally for the childcare expenses including medical. I take it by this the mother can legally approach the U.S. embassy for child support payments. i do not know how U.S. embassy can pursue this. I guess they can trace through the I.R.S.
They can process the claim for the child to enter U.S. But again no mention was made about the mother.
The child has upto the age of 23 to claim Citizenship and come to U.S. once the registration is done.
If you think you are the father you have upto the child's age of 16 years to file to register.
If any of you deadbeat dads are out there take notice.
Sending money is one way of making sure the child and the mother live well.
I am just wondering if this entire discussion is not a little off topic, at least in the AC section? Ready to get grilled now! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Mongering1
09-04-08, 22:03
I was thinking the same thing...
I am just wondering if this entire discussion is not a little off topic, at least in the AC section? Ready to get grilled now! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
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Might be interesting to see the target demographic for the the Bangkok - Clark shuttle
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HornyGeorge
09-05-08, 22:51
Ge: I, also, do not mean to be hypertechnical but must still disagree with you as NOTHING is "automatic" in terms of a "right" to immigrate to the US. It is a "privilege" (using the term loosely). Stripping citizenship after it is conferred requires due process; applications only require a modicum of due process and are only subject to judicial review in very limited circumstances. Put differently, the Consular officer has lots of latitude (AKA discretion) to order "administrative review" or further investigation of any petition.
The minor child of a US citizen can have their petition denied if the petitioning party makes a misrepresentation in the application. There may be other grounds for denial as well.
Granted there is less discretion to deny than in the case of the mother seeking derivative status, but to suggest that the child "automatically" gets citizenship and the mother does not is simply not accurate.
Hi, I am asking for a friend of mine who will be going to Angeles next month. He has been to Angeles last year and really like it. When he was there last time someone told him that there was a club where the girls dress up like school girls. He did search but did not find anything. I told him that I thought there was a club like that in Manila but did not think it existed in Angeles but I figured I would post it here in case I was wrong and such a club does exist.
I would appreciate any feedback from the experts.
PS, I did do a search but did not find anything.
Puerto La Cruz
09-06-08, 01:53
Ge: I, also, do not mean to be hypertechnical but must still disagree with you as NOTHING is "automatic" in terms of a "right" to immigrate to the US. It is a "privilege" (using the term loosely). Stripping citizenship after it is conferred requires due process; applications only require a modicum of due process and are only subject to judicial review in very limited circumstances. Put differently, the Consular officer has lots of latitude (AKA discretion) to order "administrative review" or further investigation of any petition.
The minor child of a US citizen can have their petition denied if the petitioning party makes a misrepresentation in the application. There may be other grounds for denial as well.
Granted there is less discretion to deny than in the case of the mother seeking derivative status, but to suggest that the child "automatically" gets citizenship and the mother does not is simply not accurate.
That's why there are immigration attorneys. Get a well referred one. If the father or mother cannot find a reputable immigration attorney in the Philippines (and I can only count two that I know of) the road for child and mom becomes much more bumpy. Thre are many very good immigration attorneys here in the USA. Now if I wanted to bring somebody into the USA
would I hire a pinoy attorney or an American attorney? You get what you pay for. And no, nothing is automatic with the child or mom.
Trust me, I'm a lawyer.
HornyGeorge
09-06-08, 01:58
CSUN: There are SEVERAL bars in AC where the uniform resembles a school uniform but NOT aware of any in Manila. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the names right now but it will be no trouble finding them if he just walks around looking into various bars. It is also cheap to BUY a schoolgirl uniform you can get your honeyko to wear once you get her in the room.
SirBoneman
09-06-08, 03:22
Hi, I am asking for a friend of mine who will be going to Angeles next month. He has been to Angeles last year and really like it. When he was there last time someone told him that there was a club where the girls dress up like school girls. He did search but did not find anything. I told him that I thought there was a club like that in Manila but did not think it existed in Angeles but I figured I would post it here in case I was wrong and such a club does exist.
I would appreciate any feedback from the experts.
PS, I did do a search but did not find anything.I might have the name wrong but there is a KTV club in Quezon City called Classroom or something with the word Class. Been there before. They were dressed like schoolgirls. Even got one too meet me after closing time. She was a 9.5 and worth the wait. Club close at 3:00 am. In Angeles City the bar called Roadhouse (Mark manager) sometimes have girls dressed in school clothes. A complete turn on. Hope this helps.
After one week, nothing much to desire is left,
going back home tomorrow....
Tough job but someone's gotta do it. :D :D
I love the low season, so many beauties to choose from.
Afternoon usually a threesome in one of my favorite Perimeter bars,
then dinner and evening barfines from Bedrock, Emotions (2x), Bodyshop (2x) and Atlantis.
Today still undecided, saw a nice one in Honey Pot.
We'll see.
For next trip I booked Lewis Grand, will report about it.
But what I saw so far, it's worth the money.
Bumbed into a relaxed bar, surprise surprise!
Barfine 1,000ps only and ladydrink 90ps.
Thought those bars don't exist anymore.
One tall cherry-hottie in Insomnia, please someone do the needful, okay? :D
Prices of food and so on increased somewhat 20% on YTD, I estimate.
SMB in several bars in Fields 95ps oredi.
Burnt roughly 5k a day ex hotel.
Cheers!
In Angeles City the bar called Roadhouse (Mark manager) sometimes have girls dressed in school clothes.
Confirmed. Sometimes they also dressed as nurses, if I remember correctly.
Cheers!
Thanks guys for the quick response. I will pass the information to my friend.
Southbound69
09-08-08, 07:37
Just returned from a four day stay in A/C and one in Ermita which I will report on in the Manila thread. It was my first time in A/C but not my last.
I have done a little mongering in China, Thailand, Central America, etc. I arrived directly into Clark on Air Asia from K/L. Took the 300p taxi to Swiss Chalet. I booked a standard room for 1480 per night. The room was fine but with a heavy smell of previous smokers in the room. Most of the hotel personel are very friendly and helpful. They also accept credit cards with no surcharge. It has a great location close to the action on Fields and fairly close to the mall. Close enough for me to walk there every day.
First night I just walked around the area a couple of times to get a lay of the place before being dragged into the Butterfly bar. The dancers there were nothing special but my waitress wasn’t too shabby. I ended up buying her a couple of drinks and talking for a few hours until they closed. This first night I had no intention of barfining anybody because I was completely satisfied as I had sent my g/f back to Phnom Penh from K/L and she made sure that I was drained. I told the waitress that maybe I will be back for her tomorrow. At the time I really meant that.
Second day. Checked out the mall. Walked around a bit. While walking around I went down a street that y’s off of Fields by the 24 sub shop. I stopped at the small We 4 U bar. That ended up being a good move as I met up with a veteran A/C monger that was about my age and we had some things in common. They have about 5 girls working the bar, some will go with you for 600p short time but they were just a lot of fun to hang out with. These are good girls and never once did they ask for a ladies drink. I did end up taking one of them for short time a couple of days later, I’ll explain later.
That night around 7 I met up with my new buddy at Lollipop. He knew the papasan there, Martin, an aussie, a great guy, a lot of fun. They have a couple of wild girls there. One dancer is particularly wild, can’t seem to keep her panties pulled up, likes to show her beaver all the time. One of the door girls is VERY wild, a total nymph. While I was at the table in the back she come up to me from behind and is all over me like a cop on a donut. She turned me around, unzips me, reaches in and starts playing. By the way this girl is very attractive. She has a mole by her upper lip. Then she gets on her knees and bites my cock on the outside of my shorts. She then pulls her perky titties out of her top and wants me to play with and suck them, I oblidge. She then tells me what she wants to do to me if I take her. What she said she would do to me would make Larry Flynt blush. Before I could tell her yes, my new buddy elbows me in the ribs and tells me to wait. He says "trust me, wait". OK, I told her that maybe later I will take her. I will tell about the other door girl later. We decide to move to Cambodia Club. Once out the door he tells me that 20 minutes before I arrived (he was there before me) she was sucking some guys cock at the bar. Good, I’m glad he told me. I don’t like to be with a girl that sucks 20 cocks a day.
Later I found out this same girl loves to do 69 with other girls at these pool parties they have. I can only imagine what she can do in the bed.
Anyway, we go to Cambodia Club, my buddy knows the papasan there too. He is also a great guy, young, but knows his shit. They have a couple of hot dancers there. The girl my buddy barfined said she had a cousin that I would like. I said to bring her out. She came over to me. She was pretty hot looking with a nice body, nice face, pouty lips, tramp stamp. I don’t remember her name, I am bad about that. After a lady drink and trying to feel her out I decided to barfine her, I think 1350p. We stayed there for a while and she seemed to zone out into another world. I was feeling pretty buzzed by that time. We took our new girlfriends to Treasure Island.
T/I is a smaller bar, selection not as good. We didn’t stay long as my buddy had problems with a barfine from a couple of days earlier that was supposed to be off that night. She came to the bar after one of her friends called her to tell her that he was there with another girl. We went back to Cambodia Club til about 3am then took out girls to our respective hotels.
Ok, we get to the room. She does her thing in the bathroom behind the locked door (I hate when they lock themselves in the bathroom). I take a shower. She wants the lights out. I also hate that. I say we’ll keep the bathroom light on with the door open and the other lights out. Ok, I play touchy feely for a little while and check her oil. Slap a rubber on, get on top. Blowjobs I can take or leave, I almost never ask for one. I was surprised when she initiated some hot and heavy kissing action. I love that. I didn’t last too long as her pussy was so tight and wet. It is about 4:30 am, we go to sleep. I am always amazed at how these girls can fall right into a sound sleep (snoring included) sleeping with a strange guy (ok, I’m not that strange). 7:30am I wake up to guys unloading rebar for the construction across the street. I love to get early morning action and then sleep again til 11 or 12 and more action before I send them off. I try to wake this girl up. I could have woken Terry Shiavo up easier than her. I guess early morning action is out. Finally, at 11:30 I’m thinking enough is enough, I have to wake this girl up. Somehow she managed to wrap herself in the bed sheet tighter than King Tut’s mummy. I shake her out of her coma and tell her to take a shower. After she comes out of the shower she asks me where her clothes are. WTF. I tell her she doesn’t need her clothes yet because we are not finished. She reluctantly gets back on the bed. I try to check her oil. Her legs are closed tighter than a rusty bear trap. I summon some Herculean strength to pry them open. At this point I am disgusted and just want to blow some chunky and get her out of my room. I get on top missionary. She doesn’t want to kiss this time. I do missionary for a while, turn her over on her stomach, legs closed. Surprisingly her pussy is wet. I blow some man chunky. She cleans up, has no qualms about using my toothbrush. She gets out of the bathroom and I tell her she can leave. I toss her 100p and out the door she goes.
I vowed to interview them better next time before barfining.
More reports to follow.
Southbound69
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I pass by stingers bar yesterday and its kinda closed and dark. I saw some constructions going on.
Guess they hadnt much barfine lately. I have to admit that I didnt visit this place since more then a year or so. SOme years ago, it used to be a lively place with great girls/attitude.
I guess those times are gone.
Atlanis has a new "consultant", maybe another word for papasan. Western guy, hard to tell if Aussie, Uk or US, but he seems to be nice. At least he aint korean.
Went to Dollhouse two days ago, talked to a beauty that I know from before. She lost her cherry now to a korean guy, told me she has a boyfriend, yeah right. She only likes korean she said, asking her why she like them, she replied, small dick, good tip.
The good thing in AC, there are many around (bars, girls) so you dont have to deal with those girls. My regular is also spoiled, I told her she can go back and work in Atlantis again, since I see a downturn in her attitude. Why dealing with the superstargirls. Im thinking to bring now some girls I met in Manila to AC for the weekend and then going to Subic, where I have my beer at the beach and fun in my room.
There so many girls, so dont stick to the ladies-with-an-attitude.
I can only say , I wonder why the koreans now flodding into fields, they have their own expensive playground in friendship. I have to say thank you guys, for fucking up fields with your hillarious overpaying. You turned the girls into greedy and moneyhungry little monsters. My advise, go home and fuck up your own country and leave Angeles city to the pros :D
Nice day to all.
Blink
You turned the girls into greedy and moneyhungry little monsters. My advise, go home and fuck up your own country and leave Angeles city to the pros :DLol, that's one of the funniest comments I have seen posted on this site, even by your standards Blink!
In my 20 + years of working and traveling in and out of Angeles ther have always been people, lots and lots of them, who over pay and the girls have always been been greedy little money hungry monsters, just now they found new suckers to give it to them.
Kind of a contradiction there Blinky.
If some guys are overpaying for girls with attitude, why dissuade them? Let them keep the btchs. That leaves more gfe for the rest of us bargain hunters. :-)
You say these guys who overpay have ruined the town, but also said, "there are so many girls..." Well which is it? Is it possible that those overpaid ladies have gone on holiday and been flaunting their wealth in MudyPuddle, Mindanao, which then brings a few wannabee to town to share in the action? Let's hope so.
And why do you have to be racist about it? Oh, those Asian guys have small dinkies. I guess a pro like you would know.....just as you would know that the ladies will tell you what you want to hear. If the gals were honest they'd probably tell you that Westerns expect them be conversationalists as well as sex practicioners...while the non-English speakers cut them loose more quickly. It must be hell to have some stranger bang the hell out of you all night (umm, with an oversized package, of course) and then bore you to death with a 2nd language which you barely understand.
Hell Blink, if you really want to reduce your competition in AC, you'd avoid posting anything positive here at ISG. I for one haven't been able to get my fav. hotels in AC, nor Mnl..... Now I see people recommending my 3rd / 4th choices.
Damn Blink, we are our own worst enemies.
X
The good thing in AC, there are many around (bars, girls) so you dont have to deal with those girls. My regular is also spoiled, I told her she can go back and work in Atlantis again, since I see a downturn in her attitude. Why dealing with the superstargirls. Im thinking to bring now some girls I met in Manila to AC for the weekend and then going to Subic, where I have my beer at the beach and fun in my room.
There so many girls, so dont stick to the ladies-with-an-attitude.
I can only say , I wonder why the koreans now flodding into fields, they have their own expensive playground in friendship. I have to say thank you guys, for fucking up fields with your hillarious overpaying. You turned the girls into greedy and moneyhungry little monsters. My advise, go home and fuck up your own country and leave Angeles city to the pros :D
Nice day to all.
Blink
It really annoys me (and probably most other mongers here) when anyone overpays and ruins it for the rest of us.
I do know a few Koreans and from the ones I know, they can be just as tight a fuckers as any other race.
Which makes me wonder if they overpay because they don't know what the going rate is. Maybe it is language skills, maybe they don't research as much as the the rest of us and possibly they don't assimilate enough with the regular tourist punters.
What I do not like, is the creation of special "Korean only" establishments bordering on the line of apartheid discriminating against non-Koreans, even worse if such an establishment is in a country outside Korea.
poopbunny,
i completely agree with you. i currently live in korea so i'm used to the "korean only" establishments and can't really complain since i'm in their country but i just hate it when they do that in angeles.
yes, this irks me too. but you can't blame them. would you want to compete against westerners?
1) they spend half the night chatting up the gals, and the poor non-english speakers don't have a chance.
2) they have big noses
3) they have big dicks. (at least that is what the gals tell me).
4) they ring a silly bell in the bar, spend a fortune on drinks for all the ladies, and of course the ladies like these big spenders.
5) they don't smell like garlic.
:-)
x
what i do not like, is the creation of special "korean only" establishments bordering on the line of apartheid discriminating against non-koreans, even worse if such an establishment is in a country outside korea.
HornyGeorge
09-08-08, 20:53
300P for the 10 minute taxi ride is a ripoff. I think that the 200 that is the real rate (hotel taxis always ask more) is a ripoff compared to the fact that in Cebu or Manila the airport is MUCH farther away yet the fare is less. AC is the biggest ripoff for transport in all the PI.
IMHO you blew it big time by passing on the nympho from Lollipop. If you remember her name please post (I will take her when I get there soon! ). Girls like her are harder to find that the one you eventually took.
If you are looking for a nice girl, stay as far away from AC as possible. If you are looking for fun then barfine the wild girls, NOT the shy ones who might make a good GF but a lousy BF!
As for the Koreans, I am fully in favor of Korean only areas of Angeles. My problem is that the Koreans are also allowed in the other places; if the Koreans could be confined to Friendship area, and everybody else had to keep out of Friendship, that would be a good solution because their numbers are NOT going to decrease.
Southbound69
09-09-08, 04:42
Thanks,
Indeed, all the taxis at the airport were charging the same 300p. I know it is a ripoff but what choice does one have? Believe me, I hate it too.
The girl at Lollipop, I didn't catch her name but just ask Martin the papasan or Pete the owner or any of the girls, they will know based on her description in my report. The wild door girl with the cute mole near her upper lip. Get there EARLY as she is snapped up quickly every day. I'm sure she will rock your world!
You're probably right, I fu*kd up by not grabbing her.
Southbound69
Proudpinoy
09-09-08, 18:19
I will be traveling up to Angeles City from Manila. Any good recommendations for good hotels and restaurants. I'd like to pay about $40 - $70 a night. Also, any good restaurants you would recommend? If anyone will be up there around 1-2 weeks and need a drinking buddy, let me know.
Thanks
Blink,
Don't get me started on the anti Korean thing. See my report in the Cebu postings. Currently live and work in S. Korea, and , are you kiddin me?
Honeyko tells me its the 2=2=2 rule: 2 inches x 2 minutes = 2000 peso tip.
You do the math.
Carmex
Blink,
Don't get me started on the anti Korean thing. See my report in the Cebu postings. Currently live and work in S. Korea, and , are you kiddin me?
Honeyko tells me its the 2=2=2 rule: 2 inches x 2 minutes = 2000 peso tip.
You do the math.
Carmex
FInally you enlighten me,
so they could fuck 3 to 6 korean guys a day, hahahaha. No wonder, that would be 6 to 12 inches a day , ehehehe, but insteasd of 3k or 1,5k they make 6 to 12k plus the barfine. Ok, now I know.
Blink
Hi,
you asked the same questions some weeks ago,why not scroll back and look our answers to it. Except mine, Im sometimes the more sarcastic guy.
I will make it up this time, cause I like to be allways nice to my fellow pinoy mongers.
Aside that stingers bar is closed and that you will find mostly korean guys in vegas, agaysa atlantis and dollhouse its all the same.
Excellent food is served at Swiss chalet, Bohemia restaurant, Orange Lion (100 different sorts of imported beer and has also happy hour).
Magaritha station is allways nice and open 24 hours. SHanos irish pub serves excellent food also, mexican appetizers are great plus draft beer and sports tv, waitress can be barfined and it opens until 3 am.(their legs will remain open until 8 am )
Phoenix hotel serves now indian food, they had mexican food before. C dining is a swiss supervised italian restaurant with a bit more expensive touch, but good also, nice garden to sit, no noise. Brettos, just a few meters walk from C dining serves great hamburgers and breakfast and is the supplier for beef etc to moste of the fine restaurants and hotels in Angeles city. You can find good variety of steaks, chees and imported food, just in case you like to have a bbque with your buddies in the hotel room (not recomanded if you like to stay in ABC hotel, they dont like bbque dust coming out of the guest rooms )you most welcome to shop there.
Hotels I recomend close to the action are Pacific breeze, Swiss chalet, Central park hotel (former Chicago park) Orchid Inn.
There is a new one called walkabout or somethign like that. Havent stayed there yet, but its just beside one of the bigger bars Blue nile. Maybe I check it out on the weekend, since I get rid of my gold digger GF I have more time to barhop.
Also recomanded hotels close to the action are Royal Amsterdam hotel, Orange Lion. Bangkok hotel looks nice, but koreans stay there, so I wont check in, but its on a budget and I have the feeling its a kinda short time place also.
There is also Tiger hotel and Medgar Apartments who now give a promo. Its also walkable to fields, but its on a main street and you have to deal with some noise.
If your a big spender I recomend you stay in Wild Orchid. Its starting with 3900p, with weekdays promos at 2900 for deluxe room. Its a nice hotel, with a very good swimming pool and even you dont stay there I recomand you should check it out. Afternoon they have a band there and I know you guys love music. The more noisy, the more better.
Hope that helps a bit. Happy trip.
Blink
Southbound69
09-10-08, 05:32
day 3: i started with the usual routine after getting rid of the previous nights barfine. walked to the mall to find something to eat then go to the we 4 u bar to chat with the girls and meet my buddy and start on the sml’s.
we both talked about our barfines from the previous night and discovered many similarities between the two cousins in the way they acted. we stayed there until about 6:30 and then we headed for lollipop. the girls wished us good luck.
the super nympho at lollipop was already barfined. there was a dancer there that just couldn’t keep her bottoms pulled up and was eager to show the beaver to everybody. nice.
stayed about an hour bullshitting with the papasan and the owner.
went to cambodia club. a dancer caught my eye that i didn’t see the day before. she was blondish. pretty face. name was something like rishell. i thought she had a very slight japanese look in her face. i am leary of the pretty ones but called her down anyway. she came down and looked great up close. she said she has a cousin for my friend. f*#k that! no more cousins! anyway, he soon finds one he likes.
i know soon enough that she is not crazy about me, kind of in her own little world. conversation is out of the question, just simple yes no answers and not a whole lot more. for some reason on this night there were way too many sml’s going down so smoothly i lost my better judgement and let her call down that cousin she was talking about earlier. she wasn’t so pretty but was a lot of fun. i was buying them both drinks and let them do body shots on me. i should have taken the cousin to the room instead. 4 am comes around. my buddy left an hour earlier in bad shape. i was a couple thousand pesos short of paying my bill. i lost track of it long before. my barfine took me in a trike to an atm. we come back and i pay the bill. off to the hotel. 4:30 am. we both shower, separately, of course. arrrgh. we are both finally on the bed, she gets under the sheet. i lift the sheet to try to play a little. when my hand gets within six inches of her sweet spot she goes nuts saying that she is ticklish and not to touch her. f#*k that! i try to go down again with my hand to get her warmed up. again she goes nuts saying she is ticklish and not to touch her. wtf! i tell her that if i can’t touch her how can we boom boom? she says "i don’t know". i say "if i can’t touch you you may as well leave right now and i will get my money back tonight". she gets up and says something nasty in tagalog to me and goes into the bathroom. a few minutes later she emerges and tells me i need to lock the door as she exits.
more lessons learned.
day 4: the usual routine. mall. we 4 u bar to talk about the previous night. sml’s, since i still had a serious case of blue balls i decided to short time one of the girls from the bar but i won’t reveal her name. nice session. 2 pops. 3 hours. i really needed that.
at cambodia club i plead my case to the papasan and mamasan to try to get my barfine refunded. i tell them what happened and they get the girl down to tell her side. she said that indeed she was ticklish and said not to touch her and said i was trying to finger her. yeah, right. i wasn’t within 10 inches of fingering her. hell, i never even saw her body as she insisted on near total darkness. only if i had night vision goggles would i have seen that pretty young things body. mamasan wanted to keep my money and let me pick another girl but i didn’t want another one from there. she finally relented and did the right thing and gave me a full refund. they are good people there. it wasn’t their fault the girl flaked.
since i had a nooner i wasn’t really that horny. that is, not until we went to lollipop. as i walked in the door something grabs me from behind and latches onto my arm. i ignore her until i drag her all the way to the back table. i turn to look at this cute blondish little spinner with a sultry voice. her name was grace. she is all over me. she was putting my hand on her pussy and stroking it (outside of her little shorts) showing me her perfect titties and inviting me to play with them. she’s playing with my cockasaurus, and kissing me. a real slutty girlfriend. the owner is sitting next to me and tells me that i won’t have any problem with her and that she will treat me real good. it doesn’t take me long to barfine this gem. just what i’m looking for. again, the four of us go barhopping and grace and i have a great time all night. i was anticipating getting my world rocked big time. we leave for the hotel earlier tonight around 2am because this was my last night in a/c. my biggest mistake was letting her know that i was leaving in the morning for manila. we enter the room, lay on the bed and i am expecting a porn star experience. as i anticipate getting my world rocked we start to make a little small talk on the bed and then she proceeds to tell me that she can’t boom boom. she says that in the morning she has to go to hygiene and that if she boom booms the night before that it will hurt her when they scrape her pussy. wtf! wtf! i am in disbelief. how could this be? this is bullshit. after making sure that she was serious about this i told her we’re going back to the bar. we go back. she follows behind me and i am super pissed. i wasted all night with the ultimate cock teaser and now it is too late to find a replacement and besides, i am so pissed i don’t want pussy right now. i tell papasan what happened. he immediately had mamasan refund my money and gave her a 500p fine. he knows her story is b/s and says she was playing me because she knew that i was leaving early the next day. she did not come in the bar with me but waited outside. i can’t believe this happened. she was all over me all night and she picked me. i did not pick her and force her into going with me. all indicators pointed to a positive experience. anyway, back to the hotel with another set of blue balls.
i have to catch the 12:45 southern cross bus to manila so i go to the we 4 u bar to say goodbye to the girls. one of them even came in early to say goodbye. these are really sweet girls. i tell them what happened earlier. they tell me that her story is bola bola. they said it does not hurt when getting the exam the morning after sex. and, besides, the exams are on wednesdays not fridays. i am still at a loss to understand why she flaked out.
all in all i had a great time in a/c. i wish i could have stayed longer. i had one decent short time, one mediocre barfine and two flake outs. not a good score but i think i will do much better next time around.
lessons learned and some new rules for the next trip:
1. when they ask me "how long you stay in angeles" i will always tell them one month longer.
2. make sure there is good chemistry between us. make sure that she is into me.
3. make sure she likes to play with me and kiss. if she rejects my kisses then turn her loose and don’t barfine.
4. interview thoroughly, find out what she will do with me and not do and how long she will stay with me.
5. be extra careful with the pretty girls as their performance and enthusiasm may be disappointing or worse.
6. very important. don’t get to drunk. drink just enough to have a good time. drunk = spending way too much money and making stupid decisions.
7. now i think this one will work well for me. shortly after i barfine i will take her to the hotel and boom boom. that way if she flakes out on me i can still bring her back and have plenty of time to find another girl. if her performance is good then we can come back and continue having fun. that also gives me plenty of time to recover for the next session when we go back to the room again.
8. even after following my new rules for myself i understand that it is still a crapshoot. nothing is guaranteed.
southbound69
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Key Master
09-10-08, 08:02
I have to interject here on the matter on all the screening so you don't get a dead fish or bola bola. It's extremely hard to tell how they will be when you get them in your room. I've had it all, wild in the bar, fish in the bed. Shy in the bar, awesome in the bed. Extremely hard to tell what is going to happen in Angeles especially with the women. The good thing, the investment can be minimized. And by that I mean you don't have to barhop and party with them for so long before finding out the hard way. It's up to you, but I'm not into bar hopping with an unknown commodity.
Cowboy Mike
09-10-08, 08:52
I don’t like to be with a girl that sucks 20 cocks a day.
Southbound69Everybody has a limit. Mine is much less than yours.
I have to interject here on the matter on all the screening so you don't get a dead fish or bola bola. It's extremely hard to tell how they will be when you get them in your room. I've had it all, wild in the bar, fish in the bed. Shy in the bar, awesome in the bed. Extremely hard to tell what is going to happen in Angeles especially with the women. The good thing, the investment can be minimized. And by that I mean you don't have to barhop and party with them for so long before finding out the hard way. It's up to you, but I'm not into bar hopping with an unknown commodity.
From Bangkok to Angeles you just don't know what these girls are going to do in the bed. I have only been to Angeles once all the girls were shy but they performed "adequately." In Manila I had one wild cat. Bangkok same experience girls acting like they love me in the club then get to the room and become cadaverous.
HornyGeorge
09-10-08, 19:53
while ymmv does always apply, and while predicting performance in the room is like predicting the weather (actually pi weather forecasts read as follows most every day: 60% chance of showers and partly cloudy except in sunny areas. )
while a girl who acts like a wild **** in the bar might be a dead fish in the room, it is much less common for a girl who acts shy in the bar to become an uninhibited tigress in the room.
fyi: bola bola refers to insincere compliments, not excuses or lies like i have to go to hygene now as an excuse to leave early.
back to the imperfect science of prediction, i would add to items at the top of sb's list:
1) ask the mamasan. the mamasans know everything. who swallows, who barebacks, who is a 3 holer, who is on her period, who has a trike driver bf and always leaves after 1 round etc etc etc. other girls may lie about fellow dancers but 99% of the time the mamasans will give you the real scoop. buying her a ladies drink is a small price to pay for invaluable intelligence information.
1a) even better: tell the mamasan there is a tip (200 will suffice) in it for her if the dancer performs like a star. if she performs up to expectations, you go the next day to tip the mamasan (never break your promise or you'll get a bad rep instantly). this also gives that dancer "face" with her peers (for which she will reward you the next time you take her).
2) tell the dancer exactly what you want (forget the shyness, this is angeles and they've heard kinkier requests). for example: "i expect deep throat like max hardcore for an hour with cim, then unlubed anal bareback etc. i want two more rounds before you leave at noon. is that ok?" if she does not agree, word will spread instantly what you want and one of her coworkers may offer it.
it is low season and the golden rule (he with the gold makes the rules) applies with even more force than during high season when the ratio of punters to poon is much higher.
I have to interject here on the matter on all the screening so you don't get a dead fish or bola bola. It's extremely hard to tell how they will be when you get them in your room. I've had it all, wild in the bar, fish in the bed. Shy in the bar, awesome in the bed. Extremely hard to tell what is going to happen in Angeles especially with the women. The good thing, the investment can be minimized. And by that I mean you don't have to barhop and party with them for so long before finding out the hard way. It's up to you, but I'm not into bar hopping with an unknown commodity.
AC (and anywhere else on the planet, but particularly AC) is a crapshoot. But I must stick with the screening course, as per Southbound, on my next trip. It's still leaves a better chance than leaving the bar with nothing agreed. But Pinays are a curious bunch. It certainly isn't Rio!
Mongering1
09-11-08, 14:08
Excellent post George. I just want to point out one thing, the only person in the bar you can trust less than a bargirl is a mamasan. Sure, you may be batting 100 so far, but these "ladies" will lie to your face in a heartbeat. I'm not dissagreeing with you at all, but just letting others know that it's not fullproof getting mommy's opinion.
I've in the past and recently had a few mamasans confirm with the girl what I want while standing next to me, all three of us. I know just enough tagalog to know what she was NOT saying. I had to interupt and reconfirm many times. Basically mommy said "Go make him happy and don't leave early.", which would suffice most of the time, but not guaranteed.
Your point number 2 is the real kicker! Most guys won't or will refuse to believe that this is a proper approach. I'm very upfront with any girl I take out. Even the cherry girls and or a girl's first day have heard at least from her friends all the perverted things us porigners like.
Having said all this, I have had great success with just approaching what I think is the hottest girl in the bar and asking these questions quite bluntly. 1. Cherry girl? 2. Mens? 3. Blow Job? 4. Stay until late morning at least? If all yes's then I tell them to change thier clothes. Then I get mommy and tell her what I just said and have her go confirm while the girl is changing. I'm thinking this approach works for me because they know I live here and not going to listen to excuses. BTW, I've just started experimenting with this approach recently so don't take this as how I've always done it.
But, yes, always a but! If I want something "special" and or multiple girls I will buy a lady drink and have a full blown interview. Even break out the "promise to God" and or pinky swear thing to make sure the girl is on board for whatever I'm proposing.
I've only bought one lady drink for a mamasan ever and that was because she would regularly point out and interview girls for me. It was years ago in Champange. Of course she had to sit on my lap and let my hands wander, she knew my lady drink rules! lol
It's been said many times in our hobby, the hunt is half the fun. A lot of guys go out all night long just to have one drunken round with a girl. I've done it myself many times. Nothing wrong with that at all, just remember beer goggles are not a myth.
Wow, this seems like a rant now. So bottom line is, no matter what phase of mongering you are in, be aware, but above all have fun.
Bud
Have to add about the momasan. Don't believe them for a minute. Momasan in Brown Sugar kept pushing the tequila girl on me after I bought her a LD. On and on about this girl, what she would do, etc. I told her I don't want any bullshit, just ST and good fucking. No, "its too big, it hurts" bullshit. She tells me the girl is a three holer and can take all comers. Well that sealed the deal for me, and I BF the girl. She also called a ST hotel to make sure all was set.
Well, all was not set. The hotel had no room, and neither did the next one. So I ended up in Haven motel. Not bad, and was 350 php for 3 hours. Girl performed like a champ, but was not up for anal. Overall very mechanical and pretty much was just business, much like what I hear about in Thailand. Did not kiss, only BBBJ for about 5 minutes and hopped on top for what she thought would be my finish. Well, I had been with honeyko earlier and was in no mood to finish, but the business like attitude made me just want to finish and get out of there. So after about 40 minutes and some porn on the TV I pulled out and shot on her tramp stamp. Not bad, but off to the shower where she cleaned up with betadine scrub and I had to wash myself. Usually the girls wash me up after we are done.
Paid for the hotel and trike back to Brown Sugar, and we did not say one word to each other. Not even a "see you later" or a kiss. I told her to tell mamasan she was a liar after she got out of the trike.
No anal, no kiss, and a limited BBBJ. Don't trust mamasan to give you the good information. Although the mama in Carousel was very helpful on previous nights, but that was because I knew her and we had partied before. Just do the good interview before you leave so everyone ends up happy. Bummer part was one of the girls in my buddies room the other night stole his camera. Never had that happen to me, but he was a little down about it. After that, I just grabbed my honeyko and rented a big motorcycle and took her down to subic and the Camayan resort. That part was cool, but I still got tired of fucking her after a few days. Still nice to be fucking on the beach in the moonlight though. Read the Subic thread later for a FR.
Very much the low season right now.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Doesn't sound like a rant at all -- and I suspect it works well for someone who lives in AC. I've heard it enough from other ISGers to suspect it works for many, but it's not my style. Mong1, shall I assume you ask these questions tactfully, or do you just drop bombs?
Someone recently posted (I don't remember the thread, maybe AC) that they learned it was a mistake to say it is "my last day". Yes, huge mistake....and I envy you blokes who can say, "I live here."
I prefer white lies over full-blown bullshit, so when they ask "how long you stay", I usually give them the number of days in my entire trip. Later, if they seem surprised at my departure date, I just say, "Sorry, I thought you were asking me how many days I stay in Philippines".
Of course if her English is good enough to specify ..."how much longer will you stay", you may have found yourself an English major. That could be a good thing, but I'd have to change my strategy.
I prefer to chat up the girls and look for a good vibe. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't talk money either. That usually gives me the going rate, but sometimes creates some conflict. (This is a mute point in AC, but sometimes a headache in MNL or Cebu)
Interesting post Mong1. You do the absolute opposite of what I do, but I guess we both get laid at the end of the day...or morning.
X
Excellent post George. I just want to point out one thing, the only person in the bar you can trust less than a bargirl is a mamasan. Sure, you may be batting 100 so far, but these "ladies" will lie to your face in a heartbeat. I'm not dissagreeing with you at all, but just letting others know that it's not fullproof getting mommy's opinion.
I've in the past and recently had a few mamasans confirm with the girl what I want while standing next to me, all three of us. I know just enough tagalog to know what she was NOT saying. I had to interupt and reconfirm many times. Basically mommy said "Go make him happy and don't leave early.", which would suffice most of the time, but not guaranteed.
Your point number 2 is the real kicker! Most guys won't or will refuse to believe that this is a proper approach. I'm very upfront with any girl I take out. Even the cherry girls and or a girl's first day have heard at least from her friends all the perverted things us porigners like.
Having said all this, I have had great success with just approaching what I think is the hottest girl in the bar and asking these questions quite bluntly. 1. Cherry girl? 2. Mens? 3. Blow Job? 4. Stay until late morning at least? If all yes's then I tell them to change thier clothes. Then I get mommy and tell her what I just said and have her go confirm while the girl is changing. I'm thinking this approach works for me because they know I live here and not going to listen to excuses. BTW, I've just started experimenting with this approach recently so don't take this as how I've always done it.
But, yes, always a but! If I want something "special" and or multiple girls I will buy a lady drink and have a full blown interview. Even break out the "promise to God" and or pinky swear thing to make sure the girl is on board for whatever I'm proposing.
I've only bought one lady drink for a mamasan ever and that was because she would regularly point out and interview girls for me. It was years ago in Champange. Of course she had to sit on my lap and let my hands wander, she knew my lady drink rules! lol
It's been said many times in our hobby, the hunt is half the fun. A lot of guys go out all night long just to have one drunken round with a girl. I've done it myself many times. Nothing wrong with that at all, just remember beer goggles are not a myth.
Wow, this seems like a rant now. So bottom line is, no matter what phase of mongering you are in, be aware, but above all have fun.
Bud
HornyGeorge
09-11-08, 23:25
Carmex: "Although the mama in Carousel was very helpful on previous nights, but that was because I knew her and we had partied before." Now this is the KEY. Make the mamasan think it is not just a one off deal, that if she steers you right and the girl performs as promised you will come back regularly. If you get a trusted mommy as an ally, she will steer you the cutest new girls when they are FOB from Samar etc.. But toi keep respect you acnnot tolerate ANY BS.
If they start to decline in efficacy, you MUST confront them and tell them that one more disappointment means another mommy will get your business from now on. Don't get angry, smile but firmly make clear there will be no more second chances.
I do not live in the PI but I go regularly and that is almost better than living there from HER perspective. If you LIVE there, it will be harder for her to do other guys. If you are a frequent visitor, she can still do others while you are not there. This is better for you also. Living in AC and having a GF there would be HELL (because they will know if you wander). As much as I love to visit, I would never consider living anywhere in Pampanga (or Zambales).
Someone recently posted (I don't remember the thread, maybe AC) that they learned it was a mistake to say it is "my last day". Yes, huge mistake....and I envy you blokes who can say, "I live here."
Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.
Cheers!
Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.
Cheers!
I like to visit the zoo not live there.
Despite the interviews its quite possible the chemistry might have changed as the evening had passed. Trying to interview in a noisy bar/club with music blaring and lighting dim/poor may cast a different perspective when in the room.
One girl, despite passing the interview, chatty and friendly, turned out different in the room.
Another, which I thought might be a dud turned out much better and we really clicked.
Not that different from say ST (meeting **** at bar, turned out different in the sack) or say LT (your wife wasn't the woman you married and can't wait to get rid of her).
Things change.
My 2 cents...
Living in the Philippines is what I meant.
Like Mongering I had a few bad experiences with bar gals who knew it was my last day. Nothing serious, and it may have only been a coincidence.
One incident that I recall was with a gal who I really fancied. I'd barfined her before and she was a tiger in bed on top of giving a good gfe. A few days later, on my last day, I barfined her again. She did a runner. There was no way to complain at the bar since I was a thousands of kilometers away by the time they served up the first beer later that day.
X
Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.
Cheers!
Hello to all,
Im really shocked reading the latest reports here.You guys all believe that its all business in Angeles city?He heHE,yep it certainly is.
Im now in Makati,because l needed a chance for the weekend.l agree to the subject if you long around you able to make friends with the mamasan and listen to her referels.Actually l dont need a mamasan to help me with a girl.If l go for a barfine l just get the girl l like.
After my experience having a angeles city kampangan bargirl as my girlfriend,not recomanded as mine was a golddigger,l love to go out alone,chat the girls up l like and then see what will happen.
Blink
I would to thank everyone for hotel help.
I will be staying at Wld Orchid.
Got a garden suite.
So thanks to all.
Hello,
I have stayed two weeks in AC in August. It is the rainy season over there.
Taxi from Manila airport to AC 2.300 Peso PHP and from AC to airport 2.700 Peso PHP by hotel service. I know you could use the bus instead.
Hotel Swiss Chalet: room per night 1.450 Peso PHP, girlfriendly, safe deposit boxes inside room.
Current prices:
- barfine LT from 1.300 to 1.500 Peso PHP
Lt from midnight including morning and afternoon 4 o'clock (p.m.) .. that means 3 fucks ;-)
NOT extra money/tip, food and drinks only for your barfined girl
I have not got information of GoGo bars, because I do not like to go barhopping with my barfine. We have stayed in her bar only or at restaurants.
Please, do not pay per BBFS, do pay per timeline.
The Worst was the small kids in the streets asking for money. NEVER give they something!
This is my barfine for 2 weeks, hope you will be inspired now.
Regards
Jimmy Red Cab
09-14-08, 23:35
Couple of questions please lads -------
1) Is the new hotel Lewis Grand very far from the action.
2) Is Angeles City free of ladyboys or do I need to keep alert.
Couple of questions please lads -------
1) Is the new hotel Lewis Grand very far from the action.
2) Is Angeles City free of ladyboys or do I need to keep alert.
JRC, AC is pretty free of ladyboys unlike BKK. As far as Lewis Grand is concerned, it depends on what you consider far from the action. If you like to hang out on Perimeter Rd, then it is pretty close to everything. If you are more of a Fields guy, then it is not as convenient. I prefer to stay around Fields because most of the bars are there and Perimeter is more mellow and more for daytime action. It is a little hike from Lewis Grand to Fields and with the humidity and/or rain, its no fun to walk. Also I don't like dealing with the trike drivers.
My friend stayed at Lewis Grand and it is a nice hotel. I could see they were still working out the kinks. As for me, I stayed at Pacific Breeze because of the convenience.
Yogibear69
09-15-08, 01:17
Last week I purchased a roundtrip ticket Bangkok/Clark for the second week in November for 5500 Baht. My travel agent said that was a promotional fare and the normal fare will be about 5000 Baht more.
I was talking to a stunner in Georges club one afternoon and having a great time. I would have bf her but I already had one arranged for that day. I told here I would be back tomorrow around 4pm. The next day I show up and there she looking as maganda as ever. We picked up right where we had left off talking and laughing for the next hour. I paid the bf and off we went to join another couple at the SM mall for dinner before going back to the hotel.
After dinner we were walking around the mall when we spotted a tv advertising the Manny Pakiow boxing match. She mentioned that she planned be watch the fight at her cousins house. Oops! , the light bulb just went off inside my head, the boxing match starts at 7am in the morning. Better get this girl back to the hotel quick. We went back to the hotel and had one great love session, no complaints there. After, I jumped into the shower for a quick rinse. When I finished, I pulled the curtain back to see my lady fully dressed and waiting on the edge of the bed. "Oh, you got to be kidding me! " I said. She just sat there silently. Then I said "okay runner, whatever". I put my clothes on and walked her to the front of the hotel and said goodbye. As I turned she said. "but I have no money for a ride back? ", I gave her 40P and said "here, if you need more, get it from your cousin. " I then walked back into the hotel without looking back.
I had done a good interview in the bar and asked all the right questions, but she sure surprised me in the end. Just shows that anything can happen in AC.
Fresno
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Nice to see a good FR by a relatively new ISG member -- and some pretty nice pictures as well. Hmm, I probably would have asked her to find someplace warm and wet for that middle finger. Spunky one, me suspects.
I've never done a long term bar fine JW. Is it the number of days X the nightly bar fine or do you get a substantial discount?
And do you mean to say that LT should be until 4pm? Wow, I always thought the ones who stayed that long had fallen in love with me. Man, my ego just took a big hit. :-)
Just one small quibble. I never give the begging kids money, but some food or even a bottle of water seems very much appreciated. And if any members want to go beyond that, look up Harry the Horse /Blue Boar Inn. He does some charity work with the local orphanage.
X
Hello,
I have stayed two weeks in AC in August. It is the rainy season over there.
Taxi from Manila airport to AC 2.300 Peso PHP and from AC to airport 2.700 Peso PHP by hotel service. I know you could use the bus instead.
Hotel Swiss Chalet: room per night 1.450 Peso PHP, girlfriendly, safe deposit boxes inside room.
Current prices:
- barfine LT from 1.300 to 1.500 Peso PHP
Lt from midnight including morning and afternoon 4 o'clock (p.m.) .. that means 3 fucks ;-)
NOT extra money/tip, food and drinks only for your barfined girl
I have not got information of GoGo bars, because I do not like to go barhopping with my barfine. We have stayed in her bar only or at restaurants.
Please, do not pay per BBFS, do pay per timeline.
The Worst was the small kids in the streets asking for money. NEVER give they something!
This is my barfine for 2 weeks, hope you will be inspired now.
Regards
Couple of questions please lads -------
1) Is the new hotel Lewis Grand very far from the action.
2) Is Angeles City free of ladyboys or do I need to keep alert.
Answer #1 - Not that far from Fields ave or Perimeter (but Perimeter bars are more spread out and a bit further away for the furthest away).
To the beginning of Fields ave, would be about a 10-15 minute walk or a 5-7 minute jeepney ride or a 4-5 min trike ride.
To Perimeter bars, (some are close by), most will take 3-8 minute jeepney ride or 5 minute trike rides
Answer #2 - There are some, but not nearly as many as BKK. The usual hang out location for them is near the Sub Delicious (restaurant) at the corner and also the Corner near Sky trax disco (along with many Filipino teenager type males that congregate in groups, especially on Thur, Friday and Sat nights)
I live here, so I have not stayed at the lewis grand hotel, but many of my friends have, from the Deluxe rooms and jacuzzi suite and one in the Presidential suite and all of the rooms that I have looked at are some of the best available in AC (along with Pacific breeze and ABC). They have a large size pool and most girls in my experience are always up for some playing in the water.
ACFreddie and others have already given good replies to JR Cab, but I have to get my two cents in.
If you want to explore, and don't mind walking a bit, you could argue that Lewis is right in the middle of things.
Disclaimer: AC is sometimes very hot and humid -- it doesn't take much to soak thru a shirt. I tend to "hike" with bandana / hankerchiefs for moisture removal. Now, you'd think this would gross out the girls, but on the contrary, I've had them help out with moisture removal. No, this isn't an elaborate pun -- I'm talking about a gal using table napkins to wipe sweat off of me. I guess they've experienced a few sweaty guys before....
Ladyboys, most are pretty obvious. If you can detect them in Pattaya, you can surely detect them in the Philippines. They tend to be less aggressive in AC (IMHO), but I've read some Net posts about bad experiences / pickpockets. (I don't remember if it was AC). In addition to what AC Freddie says, you will find them on Santos Ave - the side street that will take you to Wild Orchid. I've met one lady who worked on Santos / BlowRow who had been recruited by a "bacla". You have to admit, they have a way with the women.
X
Answer #1 - Not that far from Fields ave or Perimeter (but Perimeter bars are more spread out and a bit further away for the furthest away).
To the beginning of Fields ave, would be about a 10-15 minute walk or a 5-7 minute jeepney ride or a 4-5 min trike ride.
To Perimeter bars, (some are close by), most will take 3-8 minute jeepney ride or 5 minute trike rides
Answer #2 - There are some, but not nearly as many as BKK. The usual hang out location for them is near the Sub Delicious (restaurant) at the corner and also the Corner near Sky trax disco (along with many Filipino teenager type males that congregate in groups, especially on Thur, Friday and Sat nights)
I live here, so I have not stayed at the lewis grand hotel, but many of my friends have, from the Deluxe rooms and jacuzzi suite and one in the Presidential suite and all of the rooms that I have looked at are some of the best available in AC (along with Pacific breeze and ABC). They have a large size pool and most girls in my experience are always up for some playing in the water.
Jimmy Red Cab
09-15-08, 14:43
Thanks for your replies, looking at this map I may go for the Pacific Breeze as it seems to be more central than Lewis Grand --
http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5
Book early my friend. And ask about which building you are in. There is an annex, some rooms with no windows. That could be a plus or a minus. Oh, no elevator in the annex either. Some people find the lack of eyes a plus at the annex. There is a guard only. I'd rather not be in the annex.
PB has been very successful, and they deserve it. But that has meant some weakening of service and I still hate that monster wall around the pool. Some say the chef has been replaced meaning better food, but I didn't notice it last time I was there.
Great location though! X
JR Cab gives provides a well know map URL. Hit the W (west) button once or twice to find the area people call "Perimeter".
Thanks for your replies, looking at this map I may go for the Pacific Breeze as it seems to be more central than Lewis Grand --
http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5
Key Master
09-16-08, 02:50
If you are strictly taking from the bars, then don't worry about it as they don't work inside the regular gogo bars in Angeles, like they do in Bangkok. I don't recommend you take anything from the street in Angeles, when you have the somewhat safety of taking from the bars. I'm not sure about the short time bars on Santos though. Never have taken from them but I see the baklas in that one section walking towards Pacific Breeze at that little corner bar if it's still there. There are baklas lurking around that stretch of Fields between like Carousel and SkyTrax it seems but again, why bother with freelancers there.
Key Master
09-16-08, 03:00
I had done a good interview in the bar and asked all the right questions, but she sure surprised me in the end. Just shows that anything can happen in AC.
That's my experience, that the women there lie a little bit more to get you to barfine them and that is regards to performance and acts in the room and length of time. That's one reason I don't dick around with them treating them like girlfriends with dinner and barhopping until I know they are cool and that means going back to the room to make sure that there was no lying during the interview process. I should say that it happens also if you go to Manila, and go to EDSA or Burgos and gogo bars in Bangkok and Pattaya. It sucks when that happens. For whatever reason I have better luck with freelancers in regards to truth in the interviewing and keeping their word. I'm not saying that it happens a lot, but when it does happen it stings. But it would sting more if you wasted your time and took her out and then she leaves you after your first shot or even worse doesn't even come close to performance promised.
Darth Sushi
09-16-08, 04:56
If you are strictly taking from the bars, then don't worry about it as they don't work inside the regular gogo bars in Angeles, like they do in Bangkok. I don't recommend you take anything from the street in Angeles, when you have the somewhat safety of taking from the bars. I'm not sure about the short time bars on Santos though. Never have taken from them but I see the baklas in that one section walking towards Pacific Breeze at that little corner bar if it's still there. There are baklas lurking around that stretch of Fields between like Carousel and SkyTrax it seems but again, why bother with freelancers there.
All bar girls (Santos st included) still have to get a license and get weekly checkups. The license and checkups are nothing more than local gov sponsored extortion. However, there are a couple of bakla bars in town so don't drink too many San Miguels, watch out for large Adam's apple, and big feet...:D
Just one small quibble. I never give the begging kids money, but some food or even a bottle of water seems very much appreciated. And if any members want to go beyond that, look up Harry the Horse /Blue Boar Inn. He does some charity work with the local orphanage.
X
Hi Xman,
I agree with you about the begging kids. I play tennis just next to the bridge that leads to Angeles City on McArthur Hwy. A lot of homeless families live under that bridge, including kids who do their begging on the highway.
Once I was playing tennis there and maybe 20 or so of the kids were playing a little way off. They looked like nice, normal kids to me, so I gave one of the ball boys some cash to go to Robinsons to buy ice creams for all the kids.
You should have seen the big smiles on their faces when they got the ice creams. The coach said he heard that was the first time for many of them ever to experience ice cream.
For a few pesos, it was a real pleasure to see their faces light up and their big smiles. If not for their bad clothes and bad teeth, they could have been kids anywhere in the world.
Over my holiday I also bought stuff like rice to give them as well.
I agree it's very hard to pick the gang kids from the real homeless kids. I've heard that quite a few of the kids around Fields have an adult "minder" who gets all the money.
And, even worse, some of the young boys in fields look crazy. Guess they've been sniffing glue etc.
But if you do come across the genuine poor and can do a little to help, then it is a good thing to do.
And thanks X Man for also pointing out the charity. It would be good to bring a few little things to the charity to help out.
Cheers
Masked Avenge
09-16-08, 12:46
Can anyone suggest a cheap airline preferably flying from Angeles to Bangkok? Second option would be Manila to Bangkok? I am trying for 5th November. I know about Cebu Pacific, but they don't start until 8th November and I'm needing to leave just that little bit earlier.
Cunning Stunt
09-16-08, 18:01
Can anyone suggest a cheap airline preferably flying from Angeles to Bangkok? Second option would be Manila to Bangkok? I am trying for 5th November. I know about Cebu Pacific, but they don't start until 8th November and I'm needing to leave just that little bit earlier.
Only indirect flights from Clark through Singapore (Tiger) or KL (AirAsia), but you might not find an immediate connection for either option. You are correct that the only budget airline flying direct to Bangkok is Cebu Pacific out of Manila (and maybe Cebu?).
... That's one reason I don't dick around with them treating them like girlfriends with dinner and barhopping ...
KM:
I second this approach! However, I am most surprised that not even few guys like to wine and dine them. Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the charm for doing so?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
ehhhhhh, its usually up to you. that is, it depends on how i feel. sometimes i just want to get back to the hotel and get it on. othertimes, i might bf a hottie early because i don't want her to get snapped up by someone else, but i am not done getting my party on. or, sometimes i might be with a fellow mongerer who has not yet found his princess for the evening, and he might drag us around for a while until my date and i get bored and want to go fuck.
another option is to get a little booze into them and usually that loosens them up a little bit in the sack and makes for better fucking. i usually ask them what they want to do. if they want to go fuck right away, then we do that. usually though, that is when you get your runners. only happened in manila one time, but the fl (2 ea) from the mall told me they just wanted to go fuck and thats it. uhh, ok!
the last circumstance is for increased gfe. if you are all business, then usually they are also. maybe i am too nice to my girls, i don't know. but, usually when you treat them like gf, they respond in kind. all stay until the next morning, but some have got up to leave before the second shot. however, usually by day 3 or 4 of the vacation, my reserves are low and i only do two shots a day. that way i get to sleep in, wake up at lunch and have some good 'afternoon delight' with a different girl (yipeee! ).
carmex
Great question H.
This is not criticism, just clarification. I assume H wanted to write "more than a few guys..."
Enlightenment.....
Think about it? If YOU have a choice of having dinner with Hesekiels, or alone, or with X, or with a sexy vixen who has accepted a barfine, what would you do?
One late afternoon, I took a really naughty lady out of a Perimeter bar (she'd already had her hands all over my jewels) and we went to Bourban. Bourbon was very nice romantic place with live music of the mushy type - which women often like. Anyway, the gogoGal-sluut was quite the lady, bless her heart. Back at Swiss Chalet, I got some pics (some were shared, you're welcome), but unfortunately never was allowed to take a pic of the pussy ring. Some women have rules and you have to obey them. Bless her heart.
It was kind of distracting lapping away on a warm pussy only to have that cold steel sensation. But I recommend every guy have some vaginal ring in your life, or mouth, at least once.
Back to H question, I love the gfe. I guess it is a fantasy like cosplay or whatever. Doing bar girls is like some kind of fantasy. On the other hand, when I do regular girls in the Philippines, I can't helpl but think they are getting some fantasy.
X
KM:
I second this approach! However, I am most surprised that not even few guys like to wine and dine them. Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the charm for doing so?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Back to H question, I love the gfe. I guess it is a fantasy like cosplay or whatever. Doing bar girls is like some kind of fantasy. On the other hand, when I do regular girls in the Philippines, I can't helpl but think they are getting some fantasy.
Since most BG in AC are not hardcore sex workers, a little GFE goes a long way!
You don't have to spend a ton of money on them either. My MO is to take them dancing either before or after the first round because what red blooded Filipina does not like to go dancing!? Besides it's fun to have simulated sex on the dance floor in front of a bunch of people! One or two drinks is all it takes to loosen them up since most are petite. As far as food goes, most anything will do as long as there is some rice as most BG cannot fully appreciate quality western food.
To Masked Avenge:
From CRK you can also transit through Macau via Tiger, then catch AirAsia to BKK. At one time the layover was only one hour but now I believe the schedules have changed and the layover is more like 5 hours.
Great question H. ...
Think about it? If YOU have a choice of having dinner with Hesekiels, ... what would you do? ...
X Man:
ah, GFE! Well, now I am really glad that I never inflict my lousy company on a pretty bargirl! Having dinner with such an ugly old jerk like me must be indeed an imposition for any young cutie. Definitely no BFE for her! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Jimmy Red Cab
09-20-08, 12:08
Book early my friend. And ask about which building you are in. There is an annex, some rooms with no windows. That could be a plus or a minus. Oh, no elevator in the annex either. Some people find the lack of eyes a plus at the annex. There is a guard only. I'd rather not be in the annex.
Pacific Breeze Hotel
Thanks for your advice, I have booked one of the executive plus rooms in the main building priced at $60 a night.
Does anyone know why they price the rooms in dollars and not pesos. ???
Rubberyman
09-20-08, 13:05
Jimmy RC,
While I am not absolutely sure, I would bet that they quote in Dollars when the dollar is high, and in Pesos when the Dollar is low.
The recent gain in the USD means that they are cleaning up in terms of the local currency.
So over the past year or so when the dollar was tanking, people from the US were hurting. Now when the USD is stronger and people from there should be getting stuff cheaper, they have fixed the price.
You might like to ask them what happens if the USD tanks again - will they guarantee that same USD rate and not ask for it in Pesos.
Pacific Breeze Hotel
Thanks for your advice, I have booked one of the executive plus rooms in the main building priced at $60 a night.
Does anyone know why they price the rooms in dollars and not pesos. ???
Yeah both Pacific Breeze & Central Park quote prices in USD, and recently PB have put up their prices in USD that was at the period when the dollar was weaker, so in the last two weeks prices have gone up by 200 pesos. So only the Yanks will benefit from this, higher prices for the rest of us.
Few Eastern European countries use same tactics like Czech Republic and Poland by Charging in Euros, now their currency both zloty and Czech crown have got stronger so they put a new price list in Euros, of course Higher.
Still there are Hotels like Hotel Royal Amsterdam and Swiss Chalet who charge local currency so it will be all of us loss if the peso gets stronger but our gain if it gets weaker against major currencies.
Cheers
Bigdan
One thing to watch out for is the US$/pesos exchange rate they use when charging you at checkout.
It's easy for a hotel to quote in US$ and charge you in pesos at a bad exchange rate.
Pacific Breeze Hotel
Thanks for your advice, I have booked one of the executive plus rooms in the main building priced at $60 a night.
Does anyone know why they price the rooms in dollars and not pesos. ???
Jimmy Red Cab
09-21-08, 12:56
One thing to watch out for is the US$/pesos exchange rate they use when charging you at checkout.
It's easy for a hotel to quote in US$ and charge you in pesos at a bad exchange rate.
Thanks for the replies, I have not been asked for a deposit so I will ask them to confirm the price in pesos when they ask me to confirm the booking four days before I arrive.
My hotel in Manila was booked through Asiarooms and they allow you to pay in whatever currency you prefer ------ but the booking has to be pre-paid in full.
Bold Focker
09-22-08, 01:01
You can now fly BKK to Clarke one way for 5, 438thb flight No 942 departs
4. 20pm arrives 8. 25pm. Saves a lot of fucking about getting from Manila!
Only starts flying on 8th November!
Its breaking news, but I wanted to share it with all of the members here as to some it may be cause for alarm (but that decision imo rests with each individual). Cherry's Club (a bar in AC, past checkpoint on perimeter road, next to Club Stampede and near the location of the ABC hotel for locational reference) was raided earlier (sometime around the 6:30ish or so time frame). I have it from a witness on the ground who states that he saw the entire bar staff being carted off/taken away and that the persons conducting the raid were heavily armed (had guns). I also have other sources who have told me the same thing from other sources. I am unable at this time to know who (which gov agency) conducted the raids, but when I do get more confirmed details I will be sure to post the updates here.
This is yet another saddening day to mark on the AC RAID calendar, a year which has seen more AC raid activity that any other years that i can remember. When will it end (if ever)? your guess is as good as mine, but certainly this is going to add to the continuing decline for Angeles City as a mongering destination.
Darth Sushi
09-22-08, 14:25
Its breaking news, but I wanted to share it with all of the members here as to some it may be cause for alarm (but that decision imo rests with each individual). Cherry's Club (a bar in AC, past checkpoint on perimeter road, next to Club Stampede and near the location of the ABC hotel for locational reference) was raided earlier (sometime around the 6:30ish or so time frame). I have it from a witness on the ground who states that he saw the entire bar staff being carted off/taken away and that the persons conducting the raid were heavily armed (had guns). I also have other sources who have told me the same thing from other sources. I am unable at this time to know who (which gov agency) conducted the raids, but when I do get more confirmed details I will be sure to post the updates here.
This is yet another saddening day to mark on the AC RAID calendar, a year which has seen more AC raid activity that any other years that i can remember. When will it end (if ever)? your guess is as good as mine, but certainly this is going to add to the continuing decline for Angeles City as a mongering destination.
Wow, I was in there this weekend! I saw about 1/2 dozen Filipino males sitting in the corner. Interestingly, every time one them called down a girl from the stage, the chosen girl refused to sit near them let alone come down the stage. It looked like a Rodney Dangerfield's "no respect" moment. I'm not sure if it's related but I left because the girls looked really nervous at the time.
Bold Focker
09-22-08, 18:04
what happens to the customers in the bars when they conduct these raids?
i assume they are after finding ****d girls, so if all bar only have girls of the correct age, then in the end they would not need to have these raids!
or is there another purpose for these raids, like extracting money from bar owners!
i planed to come to ac again in early september, but i cancelled for two reasons. 1 after reading report from the horse about security issues in ac, and how the tourist police are no longer patrolling. and 2 it was so nice in thailand, where you could go to a smoke free bar or restaurant.
can’t wait until it happens in all of the philippines, like it has in davao!
last time i was in swiss chalet i was having breakfast and a guy lit up a cigar. how selfish can you get?
i have to come in november as i am coming with a friend and said i would show him around as he is an ac virgin, but after that most of my time will be spent in thailand!
i assume they are after finding ****d girls, so if all bar only have girls of the correct age, then in the end they would not need to have these raids!
the cops in ac are looking for targets of opportunity, plain and simple. in fact cherry's was widely reputed to employ ****d girls, though as far as i know all the marginally young ones were cherry girls and didn't go with customers. so yes, perhaps against the law only technically, but that's all it takes to attract those entrepreneurial fellows in uniforms . . . .
what happens to the customers in the bars when they conduct these raids?
i assume they are after finding ****d girls, so if all bar only have girls of the correct age, then in the end they would not need to have these raids!
or is there another purpose for these raids, like extracting money from bar owners!
i planed to come to ac again in early september, but i cancelled for two reasons. 1 after reading report from the horse about security issues in ac, and how the tourist police are no longer patrolling. and 2 it was so nice in thailand, where you could go to a smoke free bar or restaurant.
can’t wait until it happens in all of the philippines, like it has in davao!
last time i was in swiss chalet i was having breakfast and a guy lit up a cigar. how selfish can you get?
i have to come in november as i am coming with a friend and said i would show him around as he is an ac virgin, but after that most of my time will be spent in thailand!
to answer the question of what happens to customers that are inside the bar when it is raided, it is a not a simple answer. it all depends on the gov agency conducting the raid. in the past, there have been customers immediately told to pay their bills and leave, customers have been held inside the bar for 30 minutes, customers have been held inside the bar for 3+ hours (allowed no food or water and the like) and the most severe case, was when there were two (2) customers who were arrested for attending a bold show (lock-in party), the customers were released 5+ hours later, but were arrested. the customers were not charged with a crime, as the distric attorney's office saw no evidence of wrong doing on behalf of the two customers, but they were still arrested.
so it all depends, there is no "set" way or procedure.
as for why the raids happen. there are many possibilities/motives. some are actually legit and are looking for **** staff, but even in this case, the real motive is money. most raids are financially motivated. once in a blue moon a raid will happen where the real intention is to "rescue" the workers, but those are far and few between.
as for ac becoming smoke free, i will give my opinion, which is, that is decades away from happening, most of the customers now are asians, all of whom smoke, so that will probably not happen anytime soon.
update on the cherry's club raid
it appears as though the clark based nbi were the ones who conducted the raid.
information for a source of mine said that a girl who works there, txt him and said she was at the clark nbi building, but he received no further txts from her after that. its not uncommon for the agents/officials to confirep001e cell phones when they see them, but some girls are good at hiding them.
more newly gained information has it that the owner of the bar was caught up in the raid as well and was taken "into custody" by the clark nbi. no word yet if he has been released or of his status
Hi to all,
didnt went to Cherry bar this weekend. Sometimes its hard for me to see all the bars, ehehehehe..
What I see at night was that there are simply to many pinoy guys around and Im surely not the guy who step beside if somebody confront me. I also dont do that when I leave work for lunch.
I visit the new bar beside of Blue Nile. Name escape me, but its a part of the newly opened walkabout hotel.They have two stages, its a small layout so you can talk to the girls easily. I saw two "okay girls", not much impressed by the setup, but it can change evry day.
The hotel has a promo fair starting at 960p for the room. Didnt checked the room yet, so cant say anything how they look like and about the noise factor during day or at night.
Fields looks deserted to me. Mostly asian guys around. Dollhouse group bought the rest of the corner behind their bar. Midnight rodeo and the other dump who used to be internet cafe and then become a noisy karaoke place for dogs, pimps and other subjects I dont want to befriend with.
Camelot or lancelot have a new papa san. Mike, left the group, according to my sources he doesnt want to kiss the owners ass any more, ehehehe..
Weather is cool here, typhoon is passing by and brings some rain which is good for the rice and good to cool things down.
Happy day to all
Blink
Hi to all,
didnt went to Cherry bar this weekend. Sometimes its hard for me to see all the bars, ehehehehe..
What I see at night was that there are simply to many pinoy guys around and Im surely not the guy who step beside if somebody confront me. I also dont do that when I leave work for lunch.
I visit the new bar beside of Blue Nile. Name escape me, but its a part of the newly opened walkabout hotel.They have two stages, its a small layout so you can talk to the girls easily. I saw two "okay girls", not much impressed by the setup, but it can change evry day.
The hotel has a promo fair starting at 960p for the room. Didnt checked the room yet, so cant say anything how they look like and about the noise factor during day or at night.
Fields looks deserted to me. Mostly asian guys around. Dollhouse group bought the rest of the corner behind their bar. Midnight rodeo and the other dump who used to be internet cafe and then become a noisy karaoke place for dogs, pimps and other subjects I dont want to befriend with.
Camelot or lancelot have a new papa san. Mike, left the group, according to my sources he doesnt want to kiss the owners ass any more, ehehehe..
Weather is cool here, typhoon is passing by and brings some rain which is good for the rice and good to cool things down.
Happy day to all
Blink
The bar next to Blue Nile is called "VORTEX" The staff from Stingers moved here as well. I've been hearing some things that makes it seem like the new Vortex is like the old stingers. I have heard from a trusted source that if the girl(s) do not get 3 ladies drinks before they BF/EWR then they are NOT given the nights salary.
The Hotel above is the Walkabout hotel. I have not been inside yet, but a good friend of mine spent the night there and he had no complaints. I know that as of about 3 weeks ago, they were still finishing up some of the rooms inside, but by now that is probably already finished.
There is also a new bar called "Eager Beavers" that is in the same location as the old "Stingers bar"
Yogibear69
09-23-08, 11:04
Mike from the lancelot is an ass hole who sindle handedly fucked up one of the best bars in angeles. the owner finally got smart and fired him.
Hi everyone,
Of course I know how to enjoy the bar life in Angeles, but sometimes I wish I was in Thailand, cause I miss the wonderful experience of a soapy massage in Angeles.
I've tried some massage parlors opposite Brown Sugar but not much "extra" offered. Anyone got any experience with a good relaxing massage with some kinda extra in AC?
Hi,
all Waynes maps I seem to find are fairly outdated.
Anyone found a updated recent 2008 edition somewhere?
Thanks
Masked Avenge
09-23-08, 12:24
Hi everyone,
I am coming for 7 nights, end of October, early November. I am looking to stay at a cheap hotel and have narrowed my choice to Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden Hotel, Hana Hotel and Brass Knob (gotta love that name). All seem to be similar price. I am really keen to hear reviews. Just need aircon, fridge, bathroom, clean, big comfortable bed. It seems they are all fairly close to the action. Any help would be much appreciated.
I have not been to Philippines before. Am I correct in saying that bar fines are generally around 1500? Sorry to be ignorant, but it seems that this BF is all inclusive - correct? Tip 200-500?
Probably another silly question, but are taxis readily available at airport? Approx how much to these hotels?
Thanks for your help.
Bold Focker
09-23-08, 17:57
Hi everyone,
I am coming for 7 nights, end of October, early November. I am looking to stay at a cheap hotel and have narrowed my choice to Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden Hotel, Hana Hotel and Brass Knob (gotta love that name). All seem to be similar price. I am really keen to hear reviews. Just need aircon, fridge, bathroom, clean, big comfortable bed. It seems they are all fairly close to the action. Any help would be much appreciated.
I have not been to Philippines before. Am I correct in saying that bar fines are generally around 1500? Sorry to be ignorant, but it seems that this BF is all inclusive - correct? Tip 200-500?
Probably another silly question, but are taxis readily available at airport? Approx how much to these hotels?
Thanks for your help.I will not give you the usual reply like RTFF as that annoys me when i get it.
I think BF are pretty much standard at 1350p on fields and about 1000p on the outer bars (perimeter bars) yes tips were correct.
Taxi from which airport? Manila taxi will cost a lot if you get it from airport poss 2500p. best option go to the other level and jump into a taxi that is dropping passengers off, it will be a lot cheaper poss 1500p. Or take taxi to san jose and get the rabbit bus to AC for about 117p. forget what taxi cost was to San Jose bus station.
If flying into Clark, taxis wait outside for 300p. Or arrange hotel to pick you up poss same price.
What was cost of these hotels mentioned, and do you know if they had Wi-Fi or Ethernet cable in room?
I always like Swiss chalet 1450p per night, all your needs and has the above and very close to action!
Mike from the lancelot is an ass hole who sindle handedly fucked up one of the best bars in angeles. the owner finally got smart and fired him.
Y:
I tend not to share your opinion about Mike, but I am curious to know why he made you so upset! However, even more important: what has turned for the better since he left?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Darth Sushi
09-23-08, 18:50
I've tried some massage parlors opposite Brown Sugar but not much "extra" offered. Anyone got any experience with a good relaxing massage with some kinda extra in AC?
I tried "ClassicTouch" once on Raymond St. (same street where Sub-Delicious & Las Vegas is located) and a hand-job was the only thing offered. They had a jacuzzi but I didn't try it because the lighting was too dark and I could not gauge the cleanliness of the water. I didn't want to chance jumping in water foaming with "dick-cappuccino!" :D
Hi,
all Waynes maps I seem to find are fairly outdated.
Anyone found a updated recent 2008 edition somewhere?
Thanks
You can try this one http://www.asianescapades.com/free/interactivemap/index.php
Hi everyone,
I am coming for 7 nights, end of October, early November. I am looking to stay at a cheap hotel and have narrowed my choice to Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden Hotel, Hana Hotel and Brass Knob (gotta love that name). All seem to be similar price. I am really keen to hear reviews. Just need aircon, fridge, bathroom, clean, big comfortable bed. It seems they are all fairly close to the action. Any help would be much appreciated.
I have not been to Philippines before. Am I correct in saying that bar fines are generally around 1500? Sorry to be ignorant, but it seems that this BF is all inclusive - correct? Tip 200-500?
Probably another silly question, but are taxis readily available at airport? Approx how much to these hotels?
Thanks for your help.
Here are the websites for the hotels that you are exploring/looking at:
Premiere hotel and Sunset garden hotel - http://www.premieregarden.com/sunset_eng/index.html
Brass Knob - http://thebrassknobonline.com/hotel.html
I have not stayed in any of them, but i can say that the Brass Knob hotel is the closest hotel to the action (closest to fields and check point area bars).
Barfines/Ewr's On fields are generally P1350, there are a few cheaper ones, such as Body Shop at P1300 and also more expensive ones, such as the DHG (Doll house group), which has a tiered system of P1300, P1500 and P3000. Also Agasya has a tiered system that starts at P1400 and goes up from there.
On Perimeter road bars you will find that P1200 is the most common, with few exceptions, Honey ko's is still P1000 and Thai hi is also at P1000.
For tipping my opinion is that its totally up to you, but if you want to be in the current market conditions/trends for mongers, then P200 to P500 for LT is right on target.
Masked Avenge
09-24-08, 12:27
Thanks for your help guys. Yeah I know. RTFF. Just gets a bit difficult sifting through many messages to get the bits and pieces from all over the place.
All hotels I mentioned are in the 1000. 1500 range. Premiere & Sunset Garden mention free wireless internet in rooms. Brass Knob has no mention, so I assume not. Hana says WiFi connection, free use of internet but doesn't mention in room. For me this isn't a big issue as I won't be taking my laptop.
I am flying to and from Clark, so thanks for taxi info. I did read somewhere, I think Brass Knob, pick up from airport for 300.
Thanks for the BF info. I know tipping is up to me, just wanted to have an idea of the going rate.
I've only stayed one night at one of the hotels you mention - Brass Knob. I don't remember being terribly impressed nor terribly disappointed, which is about right for hotels in this price range.
A minor plus would be that you are at ground zero for the S. Cross shuttle.
http://herephilippines.co.uk/gettingthere.aspx
As for the prices quoted, someone else has already clarified things. Just be aware that the system is different in MNL.
X
Hi everyone,
I am coming for 7 nights, end of October, early November. I am looking to stay at a cheap hotel and have narrowed my choice to Premiere Hotel, Sunset Garden Hotel, Hana Hotel and Brass Knob (gotta love that name). All seem to be similar price. I am really keen to hear reviews. Just need aircon, fridge, bathroom, clean, big comfortable bed. It seems they are all fairly close to the action. Any help would be much appreciated.
I have not been to Philippines before. Am I correct in saying that bar fines are generally around 1500? Sorry to be ignorant, but it seems that this BF is all inclusive - correct? Tip 200-500?
Probably another silly question, but are taxis readily available at airport? Approx how much to these hotels?
Thanks for your help.
Apparently Europhil will reopen as EuroAsia.
X
Bold Focker
09-24-08, 19:18
As for AC becoming smoke free, I will give my opinion, which is, that is decades away from happening, most of the customers now are Asians, ALL OF WHOM SMOKE, so that will probably not happen anytime soon. I wrote this and then decided not to post it as it was too much of a whinge! Then afterwards, I thought "who cares! "
I accept your view but do not necessarily agree!
I don’t think it will be bar owner making the final decision! As in Thailand and the rest of world, I think the decision will be made for them, by governments, who are under pressure from WHO (World Heath Organization) to reduce smoking deaths.
I know it will never happen until it is enforced upon bar owners, but what would be best for all, is for bars to have smoking & non-smoking sides. This may delay the inevitable. This is never acceptable to bar owners until the ban is in, then they want 50/50! . . TOO LATE!
In 2003 Ireland was resolute that smoking would never be banned in their pubs! "It is the way of life and our culture" The follow year their government banned it everywhere in doors!
Even after this happened in Ireland, England was insistent that smoking would never be banned in the British pub as 90% of their customers smoke! Famous last sayings were "A fag and a point go hand in hand" "If you don’t like the smoke don’t come out" "They don’t have to work behind the bar, they can get another job" There was no attempt to introduce non-smoking areas and in late 2005, the British government announced a full ban in all enclosed areas.
Most of Europe have now followed suit, even though the majority of their customers are smokers!
Thailand famous saying was "This is Asia, if you don’t like the smoke go back to Europe" Thailand government banned smoking this year! Not fully enforced I admit but it does give choice now!
In the Philippines smoking in public has been banned country wide since 2003, but no one knows about it and it is never enforced. The only place enforcing it is Davao, where I went last year.
All it takes is some government official to say we are going to enforce to law now, and give a custodial sentence. If you were to run a bar would you want to run that risk? I wonder if the Manila or Bangkok Hilton has a good location, On-suite, Air con, wi-fi, safe, twin or double beds?
Are you sure it will be a decade?
I’ll put my soap box away now!
Hello to all,
I have stayed or lets say lm staying until tomorow in walkabout hotel and can say its ok for the price.Downside is the noise,because my room is at the 1st floor and the karaoke f...ers sing all night.So if you deaf or a beerlover like me its ok to stay there.Went to new bar eager beaver or something like that and the only thing which impressed me was they were playing all the queen songs.The girls werent impressive at all.Went to las vegas and maybe l was to late because nada maganda ladies as well.
Brown sugar,totally crap,dogs and some really ugly low life pinoy customer.Atlantis was much better with a nice hawain performance.Blue nile had some better looking girls,so maybe tonight l will hunt again.For the weather freaks,its cool,light showers,not much happening right now,sitting at kokomoz and watching the crowd passing by.
Blink
My Irish friend, who doesn't smoke, said that the smoking ban improved his sex life.
You see, people have to detach themselves from their usual gang and go outside to smoke. Mingling becomes easier - both inside and out. Great opportunity for the opportunist.
Of course this probably doesn't apply to AC. If my memory is correct, Davao City bans tobacco indoors.
X
I wrote this and then decided not to post it as it was too much of a whinge! Then afterwards, I thought "who cares! "
I accept your view but do not necessarily agree!
I don’t think it will be bar owner making the final decision! As in Thailand and the rest of world, I think the decision will be made for them, by governments, who are under pressure from WHO (World Heath Organization) to reduce smoking deaths.
I know it will never happen until it is enforced upon bar owners, but what would be best for all, is for bars to have smoking & non-smoking sides. This may delay the inevitable. This is never acceptable to bar owners until the ban is in, then they want 50/50! . . TOO LATE!
In 2003 Ireland was resolute that smoking would never be banned in their pubs! "It is the way of life and our culture" The follow year their government banned it everywhere in doors!
Even after this happened in Ireland, England was insistent that smoking would never be banned in the British pub as 90% of their customers smoke! Famous last sayings were "A fag and a point go hand in hand" "If you don’t like the smoke don’t come out" "They don’t have to work behind the bar, they can get another job" There was no attempt to introduce non-smoking areas and in late 2005, the British government announced a full ban in all enclosed areas.
Most of Europe have now followed suit, even though the majority of their customers are smokers!
Thailand famous saying was "This is Asia, if you don’t like the smoke go back to Europe" Thailand government banned smoking this year! Not fully enforced I admit but it does give choice now!
In the Philippines smoking in public has been banned country wide since 2003, but no one knows about it and it is never enforced. The only place enforcing it is Davao, where I went last year.
All it takes is some government official to say we are going to enforce to law now, and give a custodial sentence. If you were to run a bar would you want to run that risk? I wonder if the Manila or Bangkok Hilton has a good location, On-suite, Air con, wi-fi, safe, twin or double beds?
Are you sure it will be a decade?
I’ll put my soap box away now!
Gentlemen,
I will be bringing my regular gf to Angeles for a few days. She is sweet, and shy, and very inexperienced, but very eager to learn the finer points of lovemaking.
She wants to learn how to give a really expert blowjob. So, my first question is, does anyone know a girl in Angeles who is a real expert, sucks the chrome off the bumper. We plan to invite her to our room, and she teaches my gf by demonstrating on me.
Second question. Is there a store nearby where we can buy a decent array of sex toys, vibrators, etc, as she wants the experience of getting if off with one or other of them..
Thanks in advance.
Gangles
Darth Sushi
09-25-08, 15:39
Gentlemen,
Second question. Is there a store nearby where we can buy a decent array of sex toys, vibrators, etc, as she wants the experience of getting if off with one or other of them..
Thanks in advance.
Gangles
There is an adult sex store across the street from Club Atlantis which is next to the Dollhouse on Fields Ave. Just look for the pink store front. I think the name of the place is "Naughty & Nice Adult Store." The store is about as big as a bedroom but there are plenty of things to make a girl blush or smile.
Have fun with the training! :D
Guiltyfeet
09-26-08, 00:25
Hey, that's a totally new one. Convince your girlfriend to do a 3-some by telling her it's for her education. How selfless of you. It's like the doublemint gum commercial: "Two, two, two blowjobs in one." Great idea. I'll remember that one.
I know I must be being a bit thick, or maybe things work differently in PI than Thailand for example. There is a lot of mention of barfine prices- seems 1350 PHP is standard, but none of what you should be paying your selection after you've done the deed back at your hotel. What are the going rates there- ST/LT?
I know I must be being a bit thick, or maybe things work differently in PI than Thailand for example. There is a lot of mention of barfine prices- seems 1350 PHP is standard, but none of what you should be paying your selection after you've done the deed back at your hotel. What are the going rates there- ST/LT?
Depends on where you are in PI.
In Angeles the bar fine covers everything - no extra need be given afterward. However if you are feeling nice 200-500 is not unheard of and alot of folks have been doing it lately.
For Manila, it is expected by most girls that you will give 500-1500 dependant on the girl, where you got her from , etc - it is best to talk about these things up front to avoid the silliness it could start the next morning.
For elsewhere in the country you will need to ask others as everywhere else I go I just pick up normal chicks.
Jimmy Red Cab
09-28-08, 19:20
I know I must be being a bit thick, or maybe things work differently in PI than Thailand for example. There is a lot of mention of barfine prices- seems 1350 PHP is standard, but none of what you should be paying your selection after you've done the deed back at your hotel. What are the going rates there- ST/LT?
No my friend, you are not being thick. In Thailand your barfine only releases the girl from the bar, you then have to pay her fee.
In Angeles City your barfine covers the girls fee, you should however reward the lady for good service.
My experience -----
17 visits Thailand
0 visits Angeles City
LookingToSwing4
09-29-08, 02:20
Greetings all.....This is my second trip to AC and 4th trip to PI. I am taking a friend, but have forgotten the going rate for drinks, both LD and our drinks. I have searched the AC forum, but details have been lacking. Can anyone please help refresh my memory on drink prices, both on Perimeter and Fields?
Thanks for your help.
Hello,
Im in AC right now and lm sure you were asking about drinkprices in bars.l remember drinks like sm beer is about 45p at wee george at perimeter.LD are 100p over there.At fields prices are higher,like 85 to 95p for sm beer.LD are from 175p to 195p,exception is Atlantis and other bars of the Dollhouse group.Just asked a vodoodoorgirl and she qouted me 135p for LD,maybe they have happy hour.Its 2.30pm now.Shanos irish pub have all you can drink draft beer from 6pm to 8pm for 200p.Orange Lion hotel got 40 different kinds of imported beer and have happy hour too.Once you there you will see good offers.Ask for the Blue Book which is given free to anybody in places frequent by tourist such as hotels,pubs and restaurants.
Blink
P.S. Barhopmode now
Hello,
For people that don't know, the Maganda Filipina Beauty Contest 08/09 is a beauty contest program searching for the most Maganda Filipina in the country, focusing mainly on contestants from Angeles, Manila and Subic regions.
Total Prize money is 1 million P with the winner receiving a quarter million pesos.
To become a free online judge go to: http://www.magandafilipina.net
You can vote for which contestants will go to the monthly event at the ABC hotel.
The first upcoming party is on the 4th of October at the ABC. This upcoming Saturday. Starting at 6.30. Eat and drink all you can. Entrance: P1000.
There will be an after party at the Honey Ko's bar. Only people with stamps from the event will be allowed to enter.
These are party's that set Angeles city apart from the rest of the world.
Hope to see you there,
ABC Hotel
"you only live once..."
LookingToSwing4
09-29-08, 23:56
Hello,
Im in AC right now and lm sure you were asking about drinkprices in bars.l remember drinks like sm beer is about 45p at wee george at perimeter.LD are 100p over there.At fields prices are higher,like 85 to 95p for sm beer.LD are from 175p to 195p,exception is Atlantis and other bars of the Dollhouse group.Just asked a vodoodoorgirl and she qouted me 135p for LD,maybe they have happy hour.Its 2.30pm now.Shanos irish pub have all you can drink draft beer from 6pm to 8pm for 200p.Orange Lion hotel got 40 different kinds of imported beer and have happy hour too.Once you there you will see good offers.Ask for the Blue Book which is given free to anybody in places frequent by tourist such as hotels,pubs and restaurants.
Blink
P.S. Barhopmode nowThanks. That is exactly what I was asking. Just had forgotten and wanted to provide accurate intel for my friend who's is embarking on his first visit to PI.
Guys,
I was in Manila last September and I reallyd did enjoyed a lot of pussies and stunners from LA Cafe, the parlours and local pimps. But I never made it to Angeles. I'm coming back hopefully this December. I have a high standards when it comes to looks. What are my changes of getting stunners and good performers in AC? I've been so lucky in Manila, should I just stick around in Manila? I am just wondering if it is worth to go to Angeles?
Guys,
I am just wondering if it is worth to go to Angeles?
Oh yes, it is definitely worth it! The selection of girls is huge and prices are (still) cheaper than in Manila! Give it a try, you won't regret it!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Well AC will give you more selection than Manila.
The cost of one night in manila will carry you a whole weekend in AC.
Much better bargain and also more relax atmosphere in AC
Vibrations
10-04-08, 17:05
Hi,
I will be bringing some friends to AC. Do you know anywhere which has great food in angeles city? Near nepo perhaps?
Its a friends birthday and we wanna have a nice dinner before the drinks and gals begin.
Any clues guys?
Key Master
10-05-08, 08:30
Guys,
I was in Manila last September and I reallyd did enjoyed a lot of pussies and stunners from LA Cafe, the parlours and local pimps. But I never made it to Angeles. I'm coming back hopefully this December. I have a high standards when it comes to looks. What are my changes of getting stunners and good performers in AC? I've been so lucky in Manila, should I just stick around in Manila? I am just wondering if it is worth to go to Angeles?
I prefer Manila usually over AC. AC has pure numbers there but looks wise it's a real roller coaster at times and performance is all over the map imho. If your standards are real high, I have my doubts you'll like Angeles but maybe give it a try and if you don't like it just head back. You probably have to go there at least to check it out.
I would have to go with AC if you really want to have a good time. Manila is huge and the action is spread out not to mention its just like all other big cities over-populated and polluted.
Key Master
10-05-08, 22:37
Hi,
I will be bringing some friends to AC. Do you know anywhere which has great food in angeles city? Near nepo perhaps?
Its a friends birthday and we wanna have a nice dinner before the drinks and gals begin.
Any clues guys?
Kind of depends on what kind of food you are looking for, but my personal favorite is Cottage Kitchen which is pretty much a cajun food restaurant.
RasSpewtin
10-06-08, 04:58
I know I must be being a bit thick, or maybe things work differently in PI than Thailand for example. There is a lot of mention of barfine prices- seems 1350 PHP is standard, but none of what you should be paying your selection after you've done the deed back at your hotel. What are the going rates there- ST/LT?
Hey, Mingus I just returned from 5 days in Angeles. Remember that the barfine covers all services rendered by the girl. Some will run after one pop, and some will want to hang with you all day and night if they like you. So the number of pops for your BF depends on the circumstances.
As a general guideline, here are some numbers for you:
Perimeter Bars: 1100 or 1200 BF, lady drinks around 100P
Fields Bars: 1350 BF. Lady drinks anywhere from 105 in the smaller bars to 250 at Atlantis. Lady drink prices are not always posted, and they can change depending on the time of day (wee morning hours being the highest). Ask your server!
Tip: Depends on the service. Can be anywhere from 50 to just cover the trike (that would be quite low side), up to a few hundred if you were real happy with the service. Any more than that, and she will think you are Korean.
Hope this helps;
Raz
I would tip them if they stay overnight for LT, 300 - 500 max.
They get nothing from me if they leave early.
i would tip them if they stay overnight for lt, 300 - 500 max.
they get nothing from me if they leave early.
damn pb that's probably some of the best advice i have read on this website in a long time.
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Aloha mates,
again a mindblowing week in AC..... :) Nice Ramadhan celebration!
Usually earlier I stayed in a proper hotel somewhat in the 30/35$ range.
Stayed this time in Lewis Grand. Morning round and getting up at 10am, having a good breakfast.
Then gone for relaxing and swimming. Nice.
Afternoon ST from the usual suspects,
Gentlemens, Emotions, Honey Ko, TOC, JF etc....
Since the ST is same as LT, it is a problem to get rid of the girl if you consider ST only.
The girls simply don't want to leave.
Also barfining stunners in Fields comes faster.... :D
Q Whats ur name?
A xxx
Q Where u come from?
A xxx
Q Where u stay?
A Lewis Grand.
Oooh, nice! I go with you, make lup all nyt long.
Okay, sige na, change clothes..... :D
LAN in room, wireless available.
Finally, I took the airport transfer of the hotel for 400ps each,
if the bill comes big, it doesn't count anymore.
Cherry Club closed now for renovation.
Easy Beaver is new, formerly Stinger's.
Not much of a difference.
I've heard rumours that BF in Fields will go up to 1,500ps soon.
Before high season, means somewhat November.
Dunno whether it's true. Just rumours.
Anyhow, next is Bangkok and Bali, also not too bad.
AC again in 50 days and counting...
Live fast, have fun, your last shirt doesn't have pockets. Life is nice, di ba?
Cheers!
Escort Fan
10-06-08, 17:37
Ekspat on lewis grande site they mention that they provide a free car service to fields and SM. Can you confirm that service is reliable.
Also how does it work? When you're on fields you call and a few minutes later they show up to collect you?
Also as it's the low season can you get room lower than the price tag if you stay a bit longer.
i would tip them if they stay overnight for lt, 300 - 500 max.
they get nothing from me if they leave early.
truly an excellent approach! for an 'average service' i always tip with 300 pesos, but only after a 'first class performance' with 500 pesos! the ratio would be approx. 10:1 or so. and of course, if the lady disappears all too early she does not get even one single centavo for her trike!
cheers!
hesekiels
Also how does it work? When you're on fields you call and a few minutes later they show up to collect you?
Yes, that's what they told me. But finally I took a trike, it's simply faster.
I didn't like standing in Fields with the girl and waiting for the van.
Also as it's the low season can you get room lower than the price tag if you stay a bit longer.
Negotiable I think. Or maybe a room upgrade is another option.
Cheers!
I always wonder in those situations -- are they eager because they like the upscale accomodations, or are they just expecting a bigger tip?
Or maybe bragging rights in the bar?
X
Q Where u stay?
A Lewis Grand.
Oooh, nice! I go with you, make lup all nyt long.
Okay, sige na, change clothes..... :D
!
Uh oh...all this sudden interest...may make my next booking there a little more difficult. What ever happened to..."Its too far from Fields"..."Its too expensive"..."Its poor value"..
Anyway, I believe Ekspat is correct. If the girl finds out that you are staying there, it will improve your standing. I think its because it gives them fairy tale luxurious living, away from the squalor and poverty that they are accustomed to, albeit, for only a short time. In my case, Lewis was so new, some girls did not know about it, although, Roxanne did, dissed her Pinoy boyfriend and stayed LT.
I did not bother to call for the ride as one of the staff suggested I did. I only used it when I was at Lewis wanting to go somewhere. They had 2 cars with another on order, although, on one occasion, 1 car was in Manila and the other out with a 30min wait, so I did not bother and just took the trike.
Yes. Free rides to Fields and SM Mall. But if you look at the fine print, it mentions that you should tip the driver. I did not tip on one trip. The staff sometimes also uses it for free rides to the mall and I doubt they tipped either. I bumped into one guest who used it a lot and I doubt he tipped either. I did however tip the driver on my last trip to Clark. I also tipped the porter, doorman etc...
Hopefully they will remember me, and on my next visit, who knows, if the hotel was full, they might bump someone off for me, a generous returning guest.
Escort Fan
10-07-08, 10:32
uh oh...all this sudden interest...may make my next booking there a little more difficult. what ever happened to..."its too far from fields"..."its too expensive"..."its poor value"..
anyway, i believe ekspat is correct. if the girl finds out that you are staying there, it will improve your standing. i think its because it gives them fairy tale luxurious living, away from the squalor and poverty that they are accustomed to, albeit, for only a short time. in my case, lewis was so new, some girls did not know about it, although, roxanne did, dissed her pinoy boyfriend and stayed lt.
i did not bother to call for the ride as one of the staff suggested i did. i only used it when i was at lewis wanting to go somewhere. they had 2 cars with another on order, although, on one occasion, 1 car was in manila and the other out with a 30min wait, so i did not bother and just took the trike.is lewis that much better than let's say abc? (abc has a better location at least :) ).
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