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Fastpiston
04-16-24, 00:04
Don't believe the NonSense on this forum. Barfines range from 4,000 to 5,000, (with one easily anvoided exception) and there are more pretty, young, slim girls than I can handle. Sure, some bars only have fuglies, but bars like Viking, Shooters, Geckos, and Avalon are well stocked with hotties. All the girls I bought drinks for barfined.
My biggest problems are who to boom boom next, girls I liked not wanting to repeat with me, and the high cost of drinks and barfines.I have had a great many years in AC and feel that Covid downgraded the place dramatically. The best girls are doing online stuff from home, why should they mess with AC? Look good, clean and have self esteem, then you will be too busy. Most guys in AC haven't a clue how to look good. Try it. It works, no matter your age. Older confident very presentable men are very attractive to women. Women's impression is made in seconds.
Hi Guys,
If you are tired of paying 5 K for premium short time, and willing to lower your standards, I know of the three places near walking street that offer 1500 BJ either on the premise or back to your hotel room. And most do not mind being filmed. PM me if interested. I live in Negros but frequent AC as the round trip from Dumaguete is less than $100 or less if you fly into MNL and take the Genesis Bus from T3 (300 pesos /2 hours). I have regulars in AC, Subic, Manila, Cebu and Duma that I see apart from these low budget locales. My main squeeze in Subic, for example, is an 18 yo top heavy bottom light cutie that stays the night and treats me right. Not a bar girl. Not bad for a 68 yo bloke. Frankly I like Subic better than AC. Also unrelated to this thread there is a casa within walking distance of LA Cafe in Malate (now Midnight oasis or something like that) where you can get girls for 3 K. I did not take any girls from there, however. Cheers.I know of one K bar that has reduced bar fines.
3000 if you are just taking the girl out for drinks and whatever. No sex.
3500 for short time.
4500 for long time.
Maybe a competitive trend will start.
On my last few stays at ABC Hotel I have noticed while eating at the Vintage Hall Restaurant:
Koreans do NOT have the best lookers. I have seen plenty of Koreans walking by with their girls either going to their rooms or to Aqua Club. Majority of them have 7's. Some have lookers at 8's.
However 85% of their girls are dressed up in evening wear. Ie like long dresses. Some are in provocative short skirts in high heels. Most do look sexy but not all. Undressing them with my eyes the girls bodies are no better than what we can barfine.
75% of the Koreans walk ahead of the girls. The rest will have the girls holding on to their arms.
Koreans do not have the market on the best looking girls contrary to naysayers view.
Anyone is welcome to view for themselves. Best times are 7 pm and beyond. Or go up to Aqua Club.
Of course this observation is limited to ABC and not to any Korean Hotels.
Greetings folks. Planning my first trip to Angeles later this year. I understand that one way in which Philippines differs from Thailand is that it's quite difficult to find massage shops which provide happy endings. I've also heard that there are some places on Teodoro Street that might provide what I'm looking for. Any intel would be most appreciated. PM is available if you don't want to put out names publicly.
I have had a great many years in AC and feel that Covid downgraded the place dramatically. The best girls are doing online stuff from home, why should they mess with AC? Look good, clean and have self esteem, then you will be too busy. Most guys in AC haven't a clue how to look good. Try it. It works, no matter your age. Older confident very presentable men are very attractive to women. Women's impression is made in seconds.Hi Fastpiston, I have to agree. I'm in my 50's and by my own judgement, not particularly good looking. However, numerous times I've had comments passed in my direction from locals noting how I smelt good and how other 'foreigners' don't necessarily take care of their personal hygiene. Sure, if I'm going to the Philippines and AC, I'm not going to dress-up in a hot climate, but I'm going to be presentable, so to speak.
NapaSlapper
04-18-24, 00:46
I have had a great many years in AC and feel that Covid downgraded the place dramatically. The best girls are doing online stuff from home, why should they mess with AC? Look good, clean and have self esteem, then you will be too busy. Most guys in AC haven't a clue how to look good. Try it. It works, no matter your age. Older confident very presentable men are very attractive to women. Women's impression is made in seconds.Have to fully agree that covid was the final nail in the angeles coffin and it is now sure just a shadow of its former self, one would have to go back 15,20,25 years to say angeles was a real fun place to visit, where whitey was not second class, all girls barfined, all girls stayed long time with any nationality, absolutely not so now unfortunately.
Many many girls that once swung their hips on angeles stages have not returned to their bars, many went abroad to sell their pussy, some found online, some got married and live abroad and doing well.
Every angeles bar owner is desperate to employ younger, slimmer, attractive girls for their bars, unfortunately those type of girls have many choices to earn big money outside of the bars of angeles city, what's left in angeles is of mainly low standard, yes a very few girls are ok looking and slim working in the korean top bars, unfortunately due to very low numbers the ok looking girls are in extreme demand for drinks only and mostly don't fuck with anyone.
Fully agree that there are many avenues to find non bargirls in the phills for guys who are willing to stay for longer periods, but one has to be well dressed, clean, fairly ok looking, not obese and persistent, something that is not in the nature of many angeles bar mongers that want mostly easy obtainable notches on the bed post and are not too fussy with whom those notches come from.
NapaSlapper
04-18-24, 02:33
It seems that most bar hops over the last few weeks have been split barhop, first with western friends in the few western orientated bars of walking street and then on to meet korean friends and hit the many korean orientated bars of walking street.
The reason of two separate barhops in two different types of bars is because koreans do not like the look of the girls in the western bars and my western friends refuse to go to the korean bars because the better looking girls there are cold to them and mostly won't sit for drinks with them as they only have eyes for the many asian guys.
Korean oriented bars.
Q bar, this is a nice bar, very polite wait staff, friendly manager, some nights many girls, some nights not so many, always at least one or two girls that are ok looking but can be fussy who they give attention too.
XS bar, have said this multiple times before, this bar is by far the most popular bar for the asians, why, because it has great shows, nice decor and the girls are a cut above the rest of the girls in angeles, the girl numbers are well down than last year but still the best bar in town due to a much higher chance of seeing tall, slim, attractive younger girls.
Avalon bar, can be very hit and miss, its always busy with asian customers and a few girls that are ok looking, many asian friends like this bar as the girls are mostly warm, welcoming and friendly, worth a drink or two.
Western oriented bars.
Lollipop bar, a handful of expats on most visits,10 or 12 girls, although girls are friendly and playful and many are willing to barfine in truth never see any girls even worth buying a lady drink for.
Geckos bar, again very quiet for girls numbers and punters, mostly expats, girls tend to look very bored, many with arms crossed or sitting playing on their phones, many moons ago this bar was jumping and wall to wall girls, alas those days are long gone for this bar.
Vikings bar, now this is a nice size bar, the owners and mummies make sure to make one welcome, girls mostly in bikinis, 15-20 odd girls is the norm, some playing on their phones, some smiling and some not looking happy at all, there is a waitress called jonalyn that works here, back in the day she was one of angeles super stars, worked in atlantis bar as a cultural dancer, great lay in her day, if anyone likes late 30's ladies but still with a nice face a few extra pounds but not too fat she might just be worth buying a lady drink for and see if its possible to barfine her, all in all a bar worth a visit for at least 1 beer.
Masquarade bar, owls nest bar, champagne bar, popped our heads in on a few occasions but never stay for a drink due to very low numbers of girls and no lookers.
In summing up, western bars very quiet indeed, many bars with 2 or 3 girls only and no customers, many girls looking bored, many bar owners not happy at all, its catch 22,very few customers means no money to employ the slightly better looking girls, no good looking girls means many punters won't stay for a drink, it is what it is unfortunately.
Korean bars doing quite well, yes less girls than last year but many bars very busy with asian customers buying lady drinks, making it rain peso and mostly spending good money in the bars, Not only are the korean bars busy but I'm told that the Korean only van delivery service of girls is going from strength to strength.
Banana Boi
04-18-24, 07:51
In summing up, western bars very quiet indeed, many bars with 2 or 3 girls only and no customers, many girls looking bored, many bar owners not happy at all, its catch 22,very few customers means no money to employ the slightly better looking girls, no good looking girls means many punters won't stay for a drink, it is what it is unfortunately.
Korean bars doing quite well, yes less girls than last year but many bars very busy with asian customers buying lady drinks, making it rain peso and mostly spending good money in the bars, When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.
Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?
Thanks for the great update.
WestCoast1
04-18-24, 08:43
When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). I don't know that there's a good answer to this. Its not just that the K's spend more (and get less). They do more outrageous things in the bars, like literally throwing money about the place (make it rain). If your idea of competing is to throw 30-40-50 p1000 notes in a single fistful (that's $1000 USD), then get after it. They also tip often on an outrageous scale. He buys a girl 1 drink (say, p250), then tips her p1000 as he sends her back to the stage and calls down another girl. Or he barfines her for the evening (p5000), takes her out dancing / eating, and sends her home or back to the bar without a f*ck, with a p5000 or 10 k tip.
They skip the bar scene completely sometimes, sending just one of them to a bar to barfine 5-10 girls at a time, sending vans to pick them up in groups (you will see the vans roll up in the evening just in front of Envy resto, and from up on WS 10-ish hotties come out of this or that bar and pile into the van and disappear for the night). They are in for big tips tonight.
Caveat #1: Not all Koreans behave like this*.
Caveat #2: Girls are in general prettier in the K bars. However the hotties are often taken right at the bar's opening bell. While the K bars have prettier girls, you can find pretty girls in any of the other bars NS or other's have mentioned.
Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.I don't think you need to compete. Stay out of the K bars, and dwell in the western bars that NS mentioned. There are enough pretty girls in any of them to find a winner, and they are more likely to be happy to go with you after just one drink. Chat with a mama to help you find what you want.
Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar? Both.
* While I've seen this kind of overkill from K's in bars, I have also been in bars where the Korean gents were lone wolves, sitting around chain smoking, buying only drinks for themselves, staring at their phone, while none of them is doing the outrageous stuff of throwing money or spending big (whales) on LD.
The uptick in Korean whales in AC has led to: Increased prices, and more girlie entitlement (you will now come across more drink-only girls in the bars, who will not necessarily identify themselves until they deny your barfine request).
BB we have been having this discussion for a year now, and your questions suggests a lack of RTTF. Others weigh in.
Have to fully agree that covid was the final nail in the angeles coffin and it is now sure just a shadow of its former self, one would have to go back 15,20,25 years to say angeles was a real fun place to visit, where whitey was not second class, all girls barfined, all girls stayed long time with any nationality, absolutely not so now unfortunately.....Even when I used to visit Angeles City 20 odd years ago there were girls who used to ignore me especially in upscale bars like Blue Nile but there were so many other girls (100's) of equal or superior beauty to them that it did not matter. Ah! The good old days.
Banana Boi
04-18-24, 17:41
BB we have been having this discussion for a year now, and your questions suggests a lack of RTTF. Others weigh in.Not denying this. I don't follow the PI threads closely. Last time I read these threads were before I went on my 2 month stroll through SEA in January. That's when you replied to me before. This is now me trying to decide if PI should be on my TDL for my next 2 month trips starting in June and again in October. It's really difficult to take any time away from Jakarta these days where Koreans and Japanese can't win there since girls don't get money for LD's.
I always appreciate your detailed answers a lot but if you feel I'm one who doesn't RTFF closely (which I don't) then I don't want you to waste your time replying to my questions. I will refrain from asking unnecessary questions in the PI threads.
Unless competing is what you're into.The answer to this is Yes, I love competing against guys who think they're hot shots. Do this all the time against the Koreans and Japanese in gogo bars in Pattaya. Money can flow from me too but I have never thrown 1000 USD in the air for girls to catch. Closest to that I've done is sit with gogo girls and fold bills into paper airplanes and aim them at butt cracks of the girl's on stage. They go crazy when my paper airplanes are purple or brown in color.
When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.
Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?
Thanks for the great update.A wrap of 1000 p notes is about $2000 and it's not uncommon to see a couple of these stuffed in a fanny pack. That may not be spent in one night but it doesn't last the whole trip either.
I'd agree with WC1 that, while some whities may spend the same amount, it tends to be much more payment for services rather than meaningless tips etc. Our K-boi might make it rain while Chad will be buying trays of drinks to ensure free flowing blowjobs, groping etc or a group of guys might buy out a bar and close the doors for a special occasion. Same ultimate cost but different outcomes.
Of course, there are always going to be the hot girls who magically appear while the drinks are flowing but quickly disappear when it's time for the quid pro quo.
Cheers. G.
A Traveler
04-20-24, 03:53
When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.
Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?
Thanks for the great update.This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.
So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.
A Traveler
04-20-24, 04:01
I Caveat #2: Girls are in general prettier in the K bars. However the hotties are often taken right at the bar's opening bell. While the K bars have prettier girls, you can find pretty girls in any of the other bars NS or other's have mentioned.Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars. All the bars are basically the same, with Filipino girls from 20 to 30+, some ugly and some pretty. The difference between the K bars and Western bars is that at the former girls are dolled up in dresses, will not make eye contact, and may be sitting on stage using there phones. But these are full service boom boom providers, so if you see one you like, just tell a waitress to call her down. She most likely will provide BBFSCIP and stay overnight.
In the Western bars the girls are still 20 to 30+ Filipinos, some ugly and some pretty. But they will be dressed in bikinis or miniskirts and crop tops, and may make eye contact and flirt.
WestCoast1
04-20-24, 05:54
Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars. All the bars are basically the same, with Filipino girls from 20 to 30+, some ugly and some pretty. The difference between the K bars and Western bars is that at the former girls are dolled up in dresses, will not make eye contact, and may be sitting on stage using there phones. But these are full service boom boom providers, so if you see one you like, just tell a waitress to call her down. She most likely will provide BBFSCIP and stay overnight.
In the Western bars the girls are still 20 to 30+ Filipinos, some ugly and some pretty. But they will be dressed in bikinis or miniskirts and crop tops, and may make eye contact and flirt.Thanks the more current update. My views were from 3 and 6 months ago. Things change, especially in regard to looks. I found that in general, there were fewer chubs in the K bars than the Wolfpack bars. In addition, at least one mama in a K bar assured me that she could find a barfine girl to suit my tastes and do what was requested. Tallyho.
However, my comments about K's getting what they want with large spending is, generally, true.
Sir Lancelot
04-20-24, 13:08
what's left in angeles is of mainly low standard, yes a very few girls are ok looking and slim working in the korean top bars, unfortunately due to very low numbers the ok looking girls are in extreme demand for drinks only and mostly don't fuck with anyone.
In summing up, western bars very quiet indeed, many bars with 2 or 3 girls only and no customers, many girls looking bored, many bar owners not happy at allYour posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.
I was recently in Angeles and the place was hopping. The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones. Some bars were so busy with customers I struggled to get a seat. The stage was so packed with girls at Viking, they had a line of girls dancing in front of the stage too. You make the place out to be a ghost-town but the truth is quite different.
You also have an obsession with Koreans. You try to put people off by implying westerners don't have a chance. I'm a white British guy in my late forties and on my trip I fucked the best looking black-tape dancer in Avalon (one of your beloved Korean bars) and an extremely hot Japanese-looking girl in Genesis, who three sour-faced Koreans tried to barfine under my nose. They literally asked a waitress to invite her over to join them despite the fact I'd bought her a drink. She told me this had happened as we walked down Fields Avenue back to my hotel, telling me she hates the arrogance of customers like that.
Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.
Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.
The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones
Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.Went to Angeles once in 2020. Won't go back. The majority of girls were between 6 to 8. Some of the perimeter bars I walked in and then straight out of.
My opinion: cheap sex with substandard girls.
NI.
A Traveler
04-20-24, 14:45
Today I attempted to investigate the Perimeter bars. I only made it to three, so it was a abject failure. Or maybe it was a resounding success. You be the judge.
First bar on the strip was Night Moves, which I visited in the blazing daytime of 2:30 pm. It consists of "expats" (older gentlemen of European descent), hanging out eating and drinking. There is a stage with a half dozen 30+ girls, some maybe sort of cute if you're not too picky. But even if there was a smoking hot 18 year old, I would hesitate to call her down, because there's more of a neighborhood bar vibe than a go go vibe, and I would be self conscious of being the only one groping a girl.
Next up was XXX. So last year I visited this bar. In 2023 AC was a different place, basically the place NonSense is still describing, with not many girls back to work. At that time there was a sort of cute 20 year old I bought a drink for and was getting on well with. But I was desperate for a three way. Pickings were slim, but the waitress, who was 35, overweight, and had two kids had a face that I thought was cute. So a barfined them both for a weird three way where the 20 year old laid there and played with her phone while the fat waitress rode me with a condom. Then the waitress left and I could BBFS the 20 year old.
This year the 20 year old cutie was long gone. But of course the waitress, who is even fatter now, recognized me and was all over me, so I had to buy her a drink. It's like night and day now compared to last year, and the stage was full of a dozen pretties, including a 25 year old beauty from Mindanao. She was charming and eager to go, but she had two kids, wore a body suite presumably covering baby damage, and I would not even consider talking to the fat waitress this year, but now I was stuck with her. So I billed out and moved on.
Candy Bar was my last stop. As soon as I walked in there was a pretty waitress, and she came and sat with me. She said she was 21, but I think she was a little older, and she was eager to go. I paid her bargain 2,500 PHP barfine at 4 pm and took her straight home for some straight to the point BBFSCIP. I've been doing long times with the 5,000 PHP top tier dancers, but having to hang out with them can get kind of tiring if you don't really click with them. I usually just watch some Netflix with them and go to sleep. So it was kind of refreshing to have a short time for a change. Tomorrow she will come straight to my room, and she says in the future she can bring a friend. Will I make it to the rest of the Perimeter bars?
After she left I was free to go to Lollipop on Walking Street to continue my search for the missing sexy dancer. She still wasn't there. But there were three super sexy beauties, one was an absolute stunner. All three would be considered upgrades to the girl I'm looking for, but she had really clicked with me, so I'll keep looking.
Went to Angeles once in 2020. Won't go back. The majority of girls were between 6 to 8. Some of the perimeter bars I walked in and then straight out of.
My opinion: cheap sex with substandard girls.
NI.4 year old information is of no value in 2024.
AC was only open in January and February as the lock down went into effect.
I have noticed the higher barfines now have produced a better crop of ladies.
2024.
Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars........One should keep in mind that the tastes of both nationalities may not be the same. It may actually be a win win situation for both.
Banana Boi
04-20-24, 18:43
One should keep in mind that the tastes of both nationalities may not be the same. It may actually be a win win situation for both.Exactly true. Unfortunately, I prefer the the Japanese / Korean style look so I have to go to expensive bars and battle the Koreans. I don't want the farm girl look. Just like in Pattaya, I want the Asian / Euro mix look. I'd spend 1/5 the cost if a Treetown, Soi 25, or Myth Plaza girl was even remotely hot for me.
Locamotive
04-20-24, 22:00
This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.
So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.The girl who repeated twice, she like you I'm sure and the connection was GFE I'm sure. We have to remember allot of these girls could win a Oscar, they are very good little actresses. Even if not acting and really liked you she is in the business of making money and like us she probably likes variety. If you noticed her some one else certainly did. We all get attached to these girls sometimes but just step back and remember what this is and why we are there. Long ago I decided get 4 or 5 you really like and put them on speed dial. If one not available then you go to next one. Believe me she has the same list. Had one before I texted when I arrived, sure honey love to see you Ill be at bar later. I go around 9 pm and she is hand in hand in a booth with another dude and she ignored me. Ok whatever down the list I go,. Next day she comes to my room and all over me like white on rice. Sorry honey but a whale showed up unexpectedly for only one night and he's a big spender, don't be mad. Was I pissed yeah a bit but I moved on and didn't show it. Again its a business, she likes me I'm sure, I'm just not the only one on her list. A bar girl is just not practical for a repeat visit every time as she has other suiters. Best plan is girls outside the bar scene but those take time which ill save for retirement.
..... Believe me she has the same list. ......Ain't that the truth.
Years ago, I was regularly bar fining a dancer, three or four trips a year for a week or two every time. This went on for several years. It was great times. She really adored me and we always made time for each other when I was in town.
Reality hit home when I messaged before arriving one trip:
"Babe, it's G. You in town next week? Let's catch up. I'm at Hotel X again".
Her loving reply?? "Which G?
I later saw her contact list and amongst all the other "G's" I was recorded as "G. Ugly".
Reality sucks.
G.
Koreans are booking ABC Hotel more. Especially during the weekends. Last Wednesday night a single one was hosting 9 girls up at the Aqua Beach Club. LOL. Catching some attention from gawking westerners.
This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.
So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.Ever noticed NonSense post seems to be reruns? Lollipop has always been hoping.
These posts about Koreans this and that are hilarious. Some act like westerners have exclusive rights to AC! No one group owns AC. Everyone can co-exist here. I have not seen any evidence that Koreans have the market on the top notch girls. Money talks everywhere. You have the finances clout you have the beauties.
A Traveler
04-21-24, 12:14
The girl who repeated twice, she like you I'm sure and the connection was GFE I'm sure. We have to remember allot of these girls could win a Oscar, they are very good little actresses. Even if not acting and really liked you she is in the business of making money and like us she probably likes variety. If you noticed her some one else certainly did. We all get attached to these girls sometimes but just step back and remember what this is and why we are there. Long ago I decided get 4 or 5 you really like and put them on speed dial. If one not available then you go to next one. Believe me she has the same list. Had one before I texted when I arrived, sure honey love to see you Ill be at bar later. I go around 9 pm and she is hand in hand in a booth with another dude and she ignored me. Ok whatever down the list I go,. Next day she comes to my room and all over me like white on rice. Sorry honey but a whale showed up unexpectedly for only one night and he's a big spender, don't be mad. Was I pissed yeah a bit but I moved on and didn't show it. Again its a business, she likes me I'm sure, I'm just not the only one on her list. A bar girl is just not practical for a repeat visit every time as she has other suiters. Best plan is girls outside the bar scene but those take time which ill save for retirement.Words of wisdom. A wise man once said to never barfine the same girl more than three times to avoid attachment. Nevertheless I will continue to search Lollipop. She was smart enough to make a fake Facebook account, so she could just vanish without a trace.
Meanwhile, the waitress from Perimeter came back for the opposite of a GFE: a quick 15 minute vaccination session. She says she will bring her cute coworker next time.
Banana Boi
04-21-24, 13:32
Her loving reply?? "Which G?
I later saw her contact list and amongst all the other "G's" I was recorded as "G. Ugly".
Reality sucks. Glad I wasn't drinking water when I read this. That does suck though.
Sir Lancelot
04-21-24, 14:48
Her loving reply?? "Which G?
I later saw her contact list and amongst all the other "G's" I was recorded as "G. Ugly".On the bright side it makes a funny story, thanks for sharing.
The girl who repeated twice, she like you I'm sure and the connection was GFE I'm sure. We have to remember allot of these girls could win a Oscar, they are very good little actresses. Even if not acting and really liked you she is in the business of making money and like us she probably likes variety. If you noticed her some one else certainly did. We all get attached to these girls sometimes but just step back and remember what this is and why we are there. Long ago I decided get 4 or 5 you really like and put them on speed dial. If one not available then you go to next one. Believe me she has the same list. Had one before I texted when I arrived, sure honey love to see you Ill be at bar later. I go around 9 pm and she is hand in hand in a booth with another dude and she ignored me. Ok whatever down the list I go,. Next day she comes to my room and all over me like white on rice. Sorry honey but a whale showed up unexpectedly for only one night and he's a big spender, don't be mad. Was I pissed yeah a bit but I moved on and didn't show it. Again its a business, she likes me I'm sure, I'm just not the only one on her list. A bar girl is just not practical for a repeat visit every time as she has other suiters. Best plan is girls outside the bar scene but those take time which ill save for retirement.True.
I can't tell you the number of guys who think that the girl is in love with them and there is some special connection. But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.
But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.The old saying goes, "It's not your girl, it's just your turn. ".
WestCoast1
04-22-24, 00:27
I can't tell you the number of guys who think that the girl is in love with them and there is some special connection. But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.
AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.
Spot on. Over the years, the number of men...who have confused.....Another big distinction is recognising the difference between affection and being cuntstruck. Not everyone can do it. I don't fall in love but Ill definitely plead guilty to the latter on occasion.
It lead me to paying too much, doing stupid things or other idocy, just to maintain access to a favoured beauty who knows what buttons to press.
Was it worth it?? Of course.
Enjoy. G.
Another big distinction is recognising the difference between affection and being cuntstruck. Not everyone can do it. I don't fall in love but Ill definitely plead guilty to the latter on occasion.
It lead me to paying too much, doing stupid things or other idocy, just to maintain access to a favoured beauty who knows what buttons to press.
Was it worth it?? Of course.
Enjoy. G.A decent looking sweetie who tries to choke herself to death on my cock is a weak spot for me. LOL, Good times.
A decent looking sweetie who tries to choke herself to death on my cock is a weak spot for me. LOL, Good times.Be strong brother, be strong. It's a burden but we do our best.
Ms G Who? Below could BBBJUW* to completion. Now you know why I was so infatuated. 😜.
Cheers. G.
* For the uninitiated that's Bare Back Blow Job Under Water. How she didn't drown, I have no idea.
It wasn't her only skill.
G.
Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.
AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.I think it is understandable due to the differences in performance. In the USA, when you see an escort, it is usually transactional in nature and the girl may be friendly, but you are never under the impression that she really likes you or there is some connection going on. In AC, the girls are friendly and chat with you and give you the impression that they like you so you get confused because it's so different than escorts in the USA. Because it is similar to a date in the USA, this confusion leads to the thought that there must be something going on, some special connection and the girl really likes you. For guys with experience in this field, that experience comes like initially believing this and being disappointed when you start to realize that you are nothing special to the girl and it's next man up for the girl when you are not there. If you take a look in the mirror and take into consideration your success or lack thereof in the USA, and the age difference, you have to ask yourself, what makes you different than the other guys visiting AC to this girl? The answer usually is nothing except that you are with her now and she hopes that you will see again on this trip and maybe will send her money when you are home.
So guys who believe this aren't stupid but just inexperienced. I am an older gent so I have been through this already and have learned my lesson. Not smarter, just more experienced.
Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.
AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.Well said WC.
I've met so many guys who go the PH to find love because they can't get it at home. I think they expect it to be an easy fix.
Not only in the PH, but anywhere there's a sex scene, is basically an economy in its own right.
The bars profit, the girls profit, and guys profit from getting their sexual fix.
Anywhere I've travelled to in the PH I've been lucky and have 'scored' with some beautiful girls in all locations.
Generally I swap WhatsApp or Facebook details to plan in advance for my next visit. And when I check their Facebook posts from time to time, I see many foreign guys commenting on their posts with love hearts, squishy messages and the lot. So it's pretty obvious I'm not the only 'who's been there' . If you come to the PH to find mutual love, you might be very disappointed. If you come to the PH to have a great time without realistic romance expectations, you can have a great time. Again and again.
Phil.
.......Generally I swap WhatsApp or Facebook details to plan in advance for my next visit. And when I check their Facebook posts from time to time, I see many foreign guys commenting on their posts with love hearts, squishy messages and the lot. So it's pretty obvious I'm not the only 'who's been there' . If you come to the PH to find mutual love, you might be very disappointed. If you come to the PH to have a great time without realistic romance expectations, you can have a great time. Again and again.
Phil.I started mongering long before most guys on ISG were born. I've been to all the major mongering destinations. My conclusion is that it is easier, especially for older gents of mediocre finances, to find true love in those destinations, especially in Asia, than in western countries. I did in Thailand but she could not relocate and neither could I. My advice would be to perhaps shun a romantic involvement with a prostitute. It may work for some but I would not do it as there are many obstacles to an unimpeded experience.
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I've never been to Angeles. I thought about it at one point, but didn't go, and probably never will now. I will just make an observation. If I don't like a place, I don't go back. From what I hear, Angeles is pretty miserable except for the girls. If the girls aren't good and the bar scene is miserable, then why does NS keep going back? It doesn't make sense. At least that is what logic seems to speak. . .
This hobby takes all types. I just don't understand why some people try to shame or drive people away from something just because they don't like it.Hi Aml, this is just my personal opinion (for others) and I somewhat agree with you. I avoided Angeles for ages as I figured if I was going to The Philippines, I wanted to be near water. Personally, I'm not right into the typical bar scene and have always found other means to meet girls wherever I've been, except maybe Bantayan, but that didn't matter as it was so great and relaxing. I visited Angeles about a year ago, just to see what it was like. Yes, you'd only go there for the sex. Like Manila, it's not pretty. However, in a few months I will return. Not to go to the girly bars, but because I met a lady there in a blow bar well back from walking street who was amazing. We keep in touch and we don't have to deal with the whole bar fine thing. She knows that if I look after her, she'll look after me for a few days before I have to head home. Until next time.
Locamotive
04-25-24, 17:21
I started mongering long before most guys on ISG were born. I've been to all the major mongering destinations. My conclusion is that it is easier, especially for older gents of mediocre finances, to find true love in those destinations, especially in Asia, than in western countries. I did in Thailand but she could not relocate and neither could I. My advice would be to perhaps shun a romantic involvement with a prostitute. It may work for some but I would not do it as there are many obstacles to an unimpeded experience.I felt that way too at first, bar girl = prostitute, no thanks. After many years of traveling in Asia mostly Philippines I've found not necessarily the case True they are having sex for money.
And don't misunderstand some are true working girls, they like the money, hours and multiple men. These I agree be careful, just enjoy them, pay them and move on. Many of these girls are just trying to eat and support their kids or family. Is this career of choice, no its a job of necessity.
Unlike US working in McDonalds does not pay 10 bucks a hour. Without education its hard to make a living here. Most will jump at the chance to leave the bar and have a boyfriend especially a western.
One. I've known a few got a western boyfriend left the bar and never looked back, they got lucky. There are some good ones just proceed with caution.
This guy's posts are bizarre NonSense. NS posts remind me of Choca Monger but CM at least had a sense of humor. If you are lucky or have some game there are bangable beauties everywhere and anywhere in the PI. I was stationed at Clark in the 80's and got tons of free quality pussy back then when I was a fit, handsome stud with a Datsun 280 ZX. Even now as a 68 yo PI retired long white-haired dude with a goatee and a lot more girth, I get as much or more than I did back then for a little bit of cash of course. AC is still better than any western country despite the Korean impact. Love to sit at Kokomos and watch the ever-changing pussy parade at 6 PM every day. There is always 1 or 2 8's or 9's passing by even if they are not working in a bar. And every time I go back its a new parade with new talent. There are even 1500 P BJ bars if one is inclined. I now live in PI (Negros) and regularly go to Angeles, Subic, Cebu, Manila and other places to add to the roster. Of course Thailand and Jakarta are other affordable options, too. Good times abound in BKK and Patts and certain hotels in Jakarta with very sexy girls who may or may not better than the angels of Angeles City. Just my. 02.
NapaSlapper
04-26-24, 03:12
It seems that viking bar was raided last night and closed down for good, reports of the bar manager there abusing staff And has been arrested.
Reports of high powered pinoy officials are insisting the manager of viking bar feel the full force of the law and the bar will not be allowed to open again by the present owners.
Seems the government are cracking down on angeles bars in general, lets wait and see what the outcome of this bar will be.
First trip since COVID. Walking street is less. Less going on, but it might be the time of the year; and the Asians have taken over more. They now have Asian club owners with Asian door touts out trying to draw you in.
I saw a rich guy come out of Wild Orchid with about 10 girls. He released them. I saw a real cutie and talked to her. She agreed to go back to my hotel. Once there, she said she was a cherry girl. A little dangerous on her part to wait until then to tell a guy that. We agreed on a price and had some fun but no sex. Just to be with an 18 year old virgin was so hot. As usual, I worried she wasnt really 18, but I later went into her bar and saw her working so I felt better. I thought about barfing her, but 5 k for another no sex romp was a lot. But she was smoking hot and a lot of fun.
All in all AC is still good, and getting better for Asians. But maybe not as good for non-Asians.
...... I saw a real cutie and talked to her. She agreed to go back to my hotel. Once there, she said she was a cherry girl. A little dangerous on her part to wait until then to tell a guy that. We agreed on a price and had some fun but no sex. Just to be with an 18 year old virgin was so hot........C'mon man, are you serious? You just looked at the meal and admired it without eating?
WestCoast1
04-26-24, 17:26
NS: It seems that viking bar was raided last night and closed down for good, reports of the bar manager there abusing staff And has been arrested..
Couple of questions:
1) Was Vikings closed down previously, after the covid re-start?
2) Is that a K-bar?
Love to sit at Kokomos and watch the ever-changing pussy parade at 6 PM every day. There is always 1 or 2 8's or 9's passing by even if they are not working in a bar.I've noticed more and more very attractive girls in AC are now working the online aps. Of course, some are fishing for sponsors but most are also very open to ST / LT hook ups if the price is right.
I'm not sure if they were fired from the bars due to bad behaviour or online is now simply a better deal for them. Over the years I've known a couple of girls who developed such a following that the bars no longer served a purpose for them and it actually cost them money to turn up every night. Hence, they quit and made much more money out on their own. They were the exception though. 99% of the time there was a reason why a stunner wasn't working in a high end bar. Typically drugs or poor attitude.
Enjoy. G.
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