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Hungerman111
07-27-09, 18:07
Planning on staying in Lewis Grand in September.

Is the hotel GF?

This will be my first time to Philippines.

Tjhooker
07-28-09, 07:05
I would appreciate if someone could answer:

1) Is there an STC clinic. I don't mean western/tourist 5* hospital. Just a local state run place. I would like:

HIV test

Syphilis test

Herpes blood test (this miight be a specialist/hospital)

HPV genital wart biopsy test (check under microscope)

Any prices you know of please advise. Also exact directions too!

2) Are the bars beyond the petrol st/phoenix called the perimeter. Is it safe in those bars on a night? I don't see no foreigners late on, and usually no whites = bar scams. On the other hand, the quieter places usually mean more fun can be had.

3) I know AC is no nudity go go bars. I have been here once before briefly. But which bars do you get something extra for a lady drink or too. If you go to the right places in Pattaya, a lady drink gets you a couple of fingers, or even 20bht gets you a mouthful of pussy (shower type gogos).

I don't want just a chat for lady drinks.

Please tell me which bar are the 'dirtier'. I don't care if they don't have lookers. Or perhaps the old timers like to keep the best bars 'to themselves' before the asians and rich westerns ruin them!.

4) Is there a second hand book shop around here! I really need a LP guide book for phils as I want to see a few of islands and general fiction books. Yeahh. I read as well as screw.

5) Walking towards the strip, on the left hand side there are some bars. Dark inside, door open. Few girls sat around. Wahst are those about?

Obviously, when I say I am looking for a bit of fun. This is subject to getting the all clear of the doc. Just a little paranoid at moment.

Poopbunny
07-28-09, 07:05
Planning on staying in Lewis Grand in September.

Is the hotel GF?

This will be my first time to Philippines.Hmm.

I remember my first ever visit to AC, there were lots of half naked pinoy girls around at the pool guest of many visiting tourist. ISG member, Gymwhite and I was around for the opening. Gymwhite, fazed by the upmarket feel of Lewis Grand, asked the owner if his hotel was GF. Lewis looked at Gymwhite like he had two heads, and responded with a resounding..."Of course!!!".

So there you go, straight from the horses mouth.

The staff there are very friendly and will not give you the evil eye if you bring back 1 or 2 girls.

X Man
07-28-09, 07:24
Agree.

Once I bought a lady drink and then hit the road. Next night I was in a different bar and the same girl came out of the restroom in street clothes - she'd been barfined. I gave her my card.

Two days later she comes to my room at 1pm and we are fking like rabbits within ten minutes. We were sex friends for about two years. Last year, it was late, I popped into her bar and paid her bar fine. She was kind of surprised. She said, "this is the first time you've paid my bar fine". I hadn't realized it, but so it was.

X


Guys like this don't get it. You end up getting less with this approach. If you are cool, you don't have to spend a lot of money to get more. The girls know better. The best girls make most of the money on LD's, not barfines. Sneak outs are not the best way to make money, especially a sneak out with a Cheap Charlie.

Hell, I "stole" the number one girl from a bar 3 years ago without a permanent barfine and they still buy me drinks when I go there.

Tjhooker
07-28-09, 09:04
Was I on question 6?

Is there anything like LOSs Beach road 500bht freelancer girls.

And where would that be?

Columpuss
07-28-09, 11:52
Planning on staying in Lewis Grand in September.

Is the hotel GF?

This will be my first time to Philippines.

The whole country is GF. That's the only thing left the country can make money on.

Ira Johnson
07-28-09, 16:17
I'm in AC now, and I was heartbroken to find out Yumi is no longer at Atlantis. However, I tracked her down and she tells me she is looking for a better gig at a better bar.

This is the finest GFE I have ever experienced. She made me feel like I was the only guy for her.

Body - 9
face - 9
Attitude - 10

PM me for her number

Sammon
07-28-09, 16:44
The whole country is GF. That's the only thing left the country can make money on.

Not the whole country. All hotels in AC are GF because of the reason why people come to AC.
In Manila many are except some high end hotels. You may have to pay a joiner charge. In some resorts they are strictly non-gf. Better take your own.

Eaglestar
07-28-09, 20:05
I'm in AC now, and I was heartbroken to find out Yumi is no longer at Atlantis. However, I tracked her down and she tells me she is looking for a better gig at a better bar.

This is the finest GFE I have ever experienced. She made me feel like I was the only guy for her.

Body - 9
face - 9
Attitude - 10

PM me for her number

Come on Ira...............share the pics with us

ES

Ezinho
07-29-09, 06:13
Here's my take on some more bars I have visited:

Club Camelot: I liked this bar a lot. It has a really cool medieval theme and there are some really hot dancers there. There are a few fatties as well but management has the good sense to keep them on the second floor, I guess so they can graze...uh I mean dance... freely away from the customers. The mamasan here is nice as well, and she recognized me from the time I was at the police station after I was attacked., Apparently a customer had run up a 7,000 peso bill and refused to pay. BF there is 1,500 pesos, BTW.

Geckos: This place is on Fields, I had tried to go there before but it was so crowded everytime I checked it out, there was no place to sit down. This time I went in the afternoon and took advantage of their happy hour from 2-6 pm. There are some hot, young and slutty girls at this bar and I am really looking forward to going back soon. BF is 1,300 pesos.

Candy Bar: Ok, I've been here three times now because of all the "recommendations" this place got on here, and I have this to say: Congrats, guys, you fooled me, yup, the trolls that were saying so many great things about this place, you got me, a Senior Member with almost 500 posts. Aside form a very cute brown skinned, short hair cherry girl that works there (anyone that's been there knows who I'm talking about) this bar is a waste of time. Sorry, guy. Opps, I mean, "guyS".

Emotions Bar: This is one of the better bars away from Fields, IMHO. Many cute girls, and a few tall ones with nice bodies. BF here is 1,200 pesos. They also have rooms upstairs for short time, but I don't know the price for that.

Honey-Ko's: To answer one of Tjhooker's questions, I bought a drink for a girl named Marisol here and she gave me a hand job at the bar, covering my dick with my shirt, of course. At the same time I bought a cherry girl here a drink and she sat and talked to me about her church! So, it's very hit and miss with ladies drinks. Just pick a skanky one, I guess.

Casi Cielo: I went here in the early afternoon because I had a good time last month with a girl here. Well, this time, there's one old hag and two young cuties here. Apparently, though, the two cute ones have boyfriends that "support" them and no longer go with customers. Only the old hag is available.

Now, this I don't understand, what is the point of sending these girls money when you are back in your country. Ok, let me put it this way, lets say I go to Disneyland and go on one of the rides, and I like it so much that I ride the same ride the whole time at Disneyland. Then, when I leave Disneyland, I send them money every week and tell them to shut down the ride so no one else can enjoy it! I mean come on you guys that do this, what's the point, really? Let us all enjoy the Pirates of the Caribbean...uh, I mean the girls of AC. Seriously, though, any guys who "sponsor" bar girls here, feel free to respond and tell me why I'm wrong.

Anyways, I end up taking Marilou, a girl that comes down the stairs as I'm about to leave. I decided to just take her, since I don't want to have to go throught the interview process and bar after bar before I find another cute girl. She doesn't really speak English, so I just use words in Spanish that are similar in Tagalog. So, my converstaion with her ended up sounding like this: "Como esta, zapatos sigue boom boom toalla coche bola bola".

Here are some pics of her I'll put here, sorry if she's not "A team", whatever that means:

X Man
07-29-09, 10:37
That's a classic!

One other point. If one buys a drink for every girl in the bar (rings the bell), isn't that reserving all the seats on the roller coaster, forcing others to go to another attraction.?


Now, this I don't understand, what is the point of sending these girls money when you are back in your country. Ok, let me put it this way, lets say I go to Disneyland and go on one of the rides, and I like it so much that I ride the same ride the whole time at Disneyland. Then, when I leave Disneyland, I send them money every week and tell them to shut down the ride so no one else can enjoy it! I mean come on you guys that do this, what's the point, really? Let us all enjoy the Pirates of the Caribbean...uh, I mean the girls of AC. Seriously, though, any guys who "sponsor" bar girls here, feel free to respond and tell me why I'm wrong.:

Tjhooker
07-29-09, 12:28
HJs for a lady drink, 100Php - with no happy ending. Maybe try buying two.

BBBJs 500 Php

Rios/Matrix Brawn (but not candy) and probably others around there.

Up past the petrol station

God knows why they have mafiosa style filipino man trying to get the punters in. The whole set up here seems amateurish. I have seen guys sitting around for hours with no attempt by the girls/mamsans to serve them.
Suits me fine!

I am going to try my luck with this internet dating. One girl from Davoa wants 2600 for the ferry. Should i send it? Ha

Poopbunny
07-29-09, 14:08
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=903342&postcount=4211

Anyone tried the fare matrix yet?

Robbaf
07-29-09, 22:35
Here's my take on some more bars I have visited:

Candy Bar: Ok, I've been here three times now because of all the "recommendations" this place got on here, and I have this to say: Congrats, guys, you fooled me, yup, the trolls that were saying so many great things about this place, you got me, a Senior Member with almost 500 posts. Aside form a very cute brown skinned, short hair cherry girl that works there (anyone that's been there knows who I'm talking about) this bar is a waste of time. Sorry, guy. Opps, I mean, "guyS".Sorry that you didn't agree, but I have seen many bars dead one minute and out of control the next.

Robb

Sharka
07-30-09, 00:25
She doesn't really speak English, so I just use words in Spanish that are similar in Tagalog. So, my converstaion with her ended up sounding like this: "Como esta, zapatos sigue boom boom toalla coche bola bola".

:


Didn't speak English, I was under the impression everyone spoke it which is why mongers like the Filipi's because its less hassle with the language barrier.

Fast Eddie 48
07-30-09, 06:40
Sorry that you didn't agree, but I have seen many bars dead one minute and out of control the next.

RobbRobb,

I been to AC 5 times the last 4 years.

I've never even been to the Perimeter Bar before.

I cannot even try all the bars at Field's Road.

It looks like the new candy bar has some good talent and I am looking forward into going there on my next
trip.

Nice photos.

Fast Eddie 48

Hesekiels
07-30-09, 08:39
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=903342&postcount=4211

anyone tried the fare matrix yet?


poopbunny:

yes, i tried it last week three times or so, but without the slightest success! like always i had to pay my 50 pesos!

cheers!


hesekiels

Ekspat
07-31-09, 03:03
Being back from AC for a week, I think AC is safe as ever. IMHO.
Haven't had any dangerous situation, of course I didn't walk around at 4am somewhere on Perimeter.

Some impressions.....
Had some good fun with a preggie......
And some great boobs, 20y/o, no kids.

And I don't like the badly shaved ones,
prefer to have a good jungle. :D

Cheers!

Hesekiels
07-31-09, 03:54
Now, this I don't understand, what is the point of sending these girls money when you are back in your country. Ok, let me put it this way, lets say I go to Disneyland and go on one of the rides, and I like it so much that I ride the same ride the whole time at Disneyland. Then, when I leave Disneyland, I send them money every week and tell them to shut down the ride so no one else can enjoy it! I mean come on you guys that do this, what's the point, really?



Ezinho:

I like your prosaic comparison! :) However, I tend to extend it slightly as follows:

"you left Disneyland, sent money on a regular basis and think they have shut down the ride. But in fact the rollercoaster is still open for the public and you are the only one who does not know it."

To me this scenario seems to be possible, agreed? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Gilbert
07-31-09, 06:23
I am in AC for 3 more days. If anyone wants to barhop together, txt me.

Aussiec
07-31-09, 15:38
"You left Disneyland, sent money on a regular basis and think they have shut down the ride. But in fact the rollercoaster is still open for the public and you are the only one who does not know it." Hesekiels

OMG. Say it is not so! Why would Disneyland ever do that to me. I thought they loved me there. I think your wrong Hesekiel and Ezinho because my ride promise to wait for me till I get back. I treat that ride with respect. Love, and loyalty. Gosh my ride is different and my ride say I am not like the others. I am special. You hear me? I am Special, Special, Special, I am Gwapo, Pogi, respectful, and such a nice loving guy not like all you other foriegners.

I thought Hesekiel and Ezinho made a great comparison! Having said that, is it possible to find a "good girl". Yes, but its as likely as one of us spending 1 year in Angeles with only one girl. Hmmm. How likely is that. Possible (yes) Likely (No).

Dodger Bulldog
07-31-09, 16:54
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=903342&postcount=4211

anyone tried the fare matrix yet?
yes, i tried it. they all have an excuse not to use it.

a couple drivers got pissed off when i pointed to it on their tryke. "i have to put it there or i get in trouble."

i do think perhaps it got them to start me off with me a better offer and then accept a lower price than before.

but who knows?.

db

Whankyou
08-01-09, 01:26
Elspat:

Liked the shots ...... especially of the preggie ........ details on miss preggo's encounter??

Hesekiels
08-01-09, 04:06
[QUOTE=Dcand4... I thought they loved me there... [/QUOTE]

Dcand4:

maybe they just love your money? Think about it! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Quickfix
08-01-09, 05:00
Hi Guys,

Im going to AC for the first time and a budy is staying at the Hotel Vida which i think is near Clarks air port and im wondering if this is in a good location or is there better places to stay.

Please help is possible

Regards Q

Dodger Bulldog
08-01-09, 12:43
Hi Guys,

Im going to AC for the first time and a budy is staying at the Hotel Vida which i think is near Clarks air port and im wondering if this is in a good location or is there better places to stay.

Please help is possible

Regards QIf you are going there to monger, the airport is pretty far away from the action. Twenty to thirty minutes away.

I would not stay by the airport.

Pacific Breeze and Wild Orchid Hotels are about half a block away from all of the action on Fields Road.

Lewis Grande is a very nice hotel, and is out by some clubs on the Perimeter Road. It is only a five minute tricycle ride from the heart of the action on Fields.

Hope this helps.

DB

Rampana
08-01-09, 21:08
Had some good fun with a preggie.Where did you meet that preggy? Whats her name? From AC?

I met a preggy thru DIA, former BG ,she told me she dont fuck anymore, but I dnt believe her.

Eaglestar
08-01-09, 21:32
Hi Guys,

Im going to AC for the first time and a budy is staying at the Hotel Vida which i think is near Clarks air port and im wondering if this is in a good location or is there better places to stay.

Please help is possible

Regards Q


Angeles City Hotels & Accomodations

Buko Max
08-01-09, 22:06
Im going to AC for the first time and a budy is staying at the Hotel Vida which i think is near Clarks air port and im wondering if this is in a good location or is there better places to stay.
Well this is a great location if you are going to bring your family or hold up in your room with your honey ko or have an early morning flight out the next day but not a good choice if you are going to spend most of your time bar hopping and such!

Betong
08-02-09, 14:57
Well this is a great location if you are going to bring your family or hold up in your room with your honey ko or have an early morning flight out the next day . . .Seeing as how no hotel in AC -- at least the part of AC of interest to us -- is more than 10 or 15 minutes from the airport, I don't see any reason at all to stay on the old Clark base. Unless maybe you were taking a wife/gf there and really didn't want her to see why you'd made a half dozen trips in the past year . . . .

Carmex
08-02-09, 16:34
OMG. Say it is not so! Why would Disneyland ever do that to me. I thought they loved me there. I think your wrong Hesekiel and Ezinho because my ride promise to wait for me till I get back. I treat that ride with respect. Love, and loyalty. Gosh my ride is different and my ride say I am not like the others. I am special. You hear me? I am Special, Special, Special, I am Gwapo, Pogi, respectful, and such a nice loving guy not like all you other foriegners.

I thought Hesekiel and Ezinho made a great comparison! Having said that, is it possible to find a "good girl". Yes, but its as likely as one of us spending 1 year in Angeles with only one girl. Hmmm. How likely is that. Possible (yes) Likely (No).

Hahaha, ummm, yeeeaaaa, right.

I am here to tell you specifically that you cannot take the bar out the girl. Sometimes they get your number, but that is just the odds. They know it also.

Having read "Private Dancer" a few months ago, and seeing conversations I had with Babyko in print, it was my determination that if you are in AC you are a working girl and that is that. Everyone knows what girls go there for, and it ain't to work in no hotel or restaurant as a waitress. End of story.

Sterile
08-02-09, 23:12
Do most of the girls in AC insist on condom usage as I prefer it bareback

Durango1958
08-03-09, 01:43
Do most of the girls in AC insist on condom usage as I prefer it barebackFrom what I have seen, I don't think it is a big deal with them. I wear a condom, but I'm the one that usually brings it up.

If I forget, the deed gets done anyway.

Durango

Durango1958
08-03-09, 01:49
Hi Guys,

Im going to AC for the first time and a budy is staying at the Hotel Vida which i think is near Clarks air port and im wondering if this is in a good location or is there better places to stay.

Please help is possible

Regards QI suggest you stay in the Fields area, the hotels are close and girl friendly. I'm pretty sure that the Hotel Vida is not girl friendly and it is far from the action. A great place to stay is in the Checkpoint area. It is near both Fields Avenue and Perimeter, which are the two mongering areas. I usually stay at Hotel Hana. A good website is http://balibago.org/ which has a lot of good bar and hotel information.

Durango

John Traveller
08-03-09, 06:13
Hello all!

As a first timer to Angeles I wonder if its possible to buy Viagra here without a prescription? If not is it it safe to buy on the streets? Or maybe the hotel employees can help?

I would appriciate all info on this.

Amavida
08-03-09, 12:28
Do most of the girls in AC insist on condom usage as I prefer it barebackThe dirty little secret of AC is that they almost all bareback without question. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you view such things..

Sammon
08-03-09, 14:36
Do most of the girls in AC insist on condom usage as I prefer it bareback
I would say nowadays most of them want you to use condom not so much to prevent STD but not to get pregnant. Most of them already have a child at home and they do not want added burden. Having said this they want you to suggest and that is because they feel it is the man's responsibility in all decisions. It does not take long to persuade them to go bareback.
If you keep her for more than one day she feels it is like boyfriend-girlfriend relationship and will not insist on condom. I would say cover yourself to save yourself lot of aggravation because considering what they do everyday with mongers from all over the world you never know what you will catch.
Would you go to any brothel in the world and indulge in risky behaviour ? . NO. AC is just a big brothel. Do not be fooled by glitzy bars, shows, dances and GFE girls.

Warbucks
08-03-09, 14:53
I would say nowadays most of them want you to use condom not so much to prevent STD but not to get pregnant. Most of them already have a child at home and they do not want added burden. Having said this they want you to suggest and that is because they feel it is the man's responsibility in all decisions. It does not take long to persuade them to go bareback.
If you keep her for more than one day she feels it is like boyfriend-girlfriend relationship and will not insist on condom. I would say cover yourself to save yourself lot of aggravation because considering what they do everyday with mongers from all over the world you never know what you will catch.
Would you go to any brothel in the world and indulge in risky behaviour ? . NO. AC is just a big brothel. Do not be fooled by glitzy bars, shows, dances and GFE girls.

Sammon great post but guys like this are past caring about STDs any thoughts why?

KyCuriosity
08-03-09, 15:57
25 May 2009 - 24,000 Sex workers in Angeles City


"Women’s groups and other sectors have expressed alarm over reports that the number of “prostituted” women in this city has soared to as much as 24,000, much higher than the estimated 5,000 to 6,000 sex workers during the time of the Americans at the former US Air Force Base at Clark Field here.

Susan Pineda, executive director and president of the Ing Makababaing Aksyon (IMA) Foundation, Inc., confirmed a report from the city health office that as many as 12,000 women are in the “entertainment” industry, mostly working at bars catering to foreign tourists along Fields Avenue parallel to the perimeter fence of the former US military base which is now Clark Free Port.

“We have a master list of these 12,000 women who are registered with the city government. The sad fact is that there are 12,000 more of them who can be classified freelance sex workers,” said Pineda.

Big money From some 150 bars and other such establishments catering to tourists when the Americans left, the Fields Avenue area is now bustling with some 250 such establishments.

“It’s because prostitution has been institutionalized. The local government has done everything that virtually legalized prostitution because there’s big money there,” Pineda said.

Only recently, the National Bureau of Investigation raided five “girlie” joints in the Fields Area although some sectors said the raids, reportedly pushed by city hall, was politically motivated and was directed against Barangay Balibago chairman Tony Mamac who is running for mayor next year against incumbent Mayor Francis Nepomuceno. "

I found that article (copy and paste) on balibago dot org that some just posted here. I think I really like the News information about angeles on there, but I was shocked at the high number claimed on the article. Does anyone believe this or can confirm it?

Chocha Monger
08-03-09, 19:13
Sammon great post but guys like this are past caring about STDs any thoughts why?
Study: Sex Without Condoms Makes People Happier, Less Depressed
By John Pettitt
Created 08/02/2009 - 9:15pm

Sex without a condom is good for your mental health. So says controversial research conducted by a leading Scottish psychologist. Professor Stuart Brody [1] claims that unprotected penile-vaginal intercourse (PVI) can significantly boost men and women's mental wellbeing. Brody also cites studies indicating that that using a condom can lead to depression.

Mr Brody, of the University of the West of Scotland (Paisley), argues that mankind is biologically programmed to enjoy unprotected PVI sex because it gives couples an evolutionary advantage and maximises the chances of reproducing. His theory, to be published in the academic journal Archives of Sexual Behaviour, has caused a predictable angry reaction from safer sex groups.

Tony Kerridge of Marie Stopes International [2], a leading sexual health and reproductive health organisation, said: "I would have thought that the mental health of anyone would be tested if they found out they had a sexually transmitted disease or that there was an unwanted pregnancy."

"Particularly in the case of casual relationships where there is no desire to get pregnant, advice should always be that condoms should be used."

"It really is a no-brainer as far as we are concerned. We are seeing some of the most rapidly increasing rates of HIV among heterosexual couples in Europe."

However Professor Brody said: "Evolution is not politically correct, so of the very broad range of potential sexual behaviour, there is actually only one that is consistently associated with better physical and mental health and that is the one sexual behaviour that would be favoured by evolution. That is not accidental."

The controversial conclusions are based on a study of 111 men and 99 women in Portugal who completed questionnaires about frequency of sexual activity, their rate of orgasms and their condom use. Using a test of psychological health Mr Brody concluded that condom use was associated with members of the sample who exhibited immature psychological defense mechanisms.

Those that had unprotected PVI sex appeared to be able to deal with stress in a more mature way by taking effective action. They also had better mental health. "The more often people are using condoms independent of age, independent of the nature of their relationship, the greater use of immature defence mechanisms against stress. "In contrast, the more often they have [PVI] sex without condoms, the better their mental health and the more mature their mechanisms."



The findings of the underlying study are specific to condoms, not to other forms of contraception, and were not confounded by relationship status, age, cohabitation, or social desirability responding.



[via The Scotsman [3]]

[Updated 2009/8/3 7AM - This article was updated with corrections based on the underlying journal articles and references were added.]

References:

1. "Greater Frequency of Penile–Vaginal Intercourse Without Condoms is Associated with Better Mental Health" , Rui Miguel Costa & Stuart Brody
Archive of Sexual Behavior 2009/07/28 DOI 10.1007/s10508-009-9519-1
2. "Condom Use for Penile–Vaginal Intercourse is Associated with Immature Psychological Defense Mechanisms", Rui Miguel Costa & Stuart Brody
Journal of Sexual Medicine 2008;52522-2532 DOI: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2008.00987

[Publishers Note: This is a controversial topic and we note that Prof Brody has a strong track record of publications in the field [4]of HIV and sexual health. We don't endorse unsafe sex outside of committed, monogamous, relationships, however science is not politically correct, it just follows the data.]

Betong
08-03-09, 19:38
Professor Stuart Brody [1] claims that unprotected penile-vaginal intercourse (PVI) can significantly boost men and women's mental wellbeing.I'm sure the good professor is right. Condoms can be a little depressing. But some of the bugs going around AC can really ruin your day.

Anyhow 'PVI' -- cool acronymn!

Warbucks
08-03-09, 19:41
Study: Sex Without Condoms Makes People Happier, Less DepressedI try not get into these condom/bare-back debates because some mongers/mongetts just don’t give a fuck and nothing is going to change that.

Maybe they should do a study on how happy people are with Herpes, HIV or unwanted babies....:(


Just like to post a warning to all who head to the gogo bars in the Philippines. I went to the Philippines with my wife and kids. We stopped in a nice hotel in Makati before our flight to the province. They all fell asleep so I stepped out to venture the famous bar scene. Stopped in Montanas where girls are dancing on stage humm did not see any show to speak of. Had a few drinks was attacked by several ladies wanting me to buy them a drink. I got comfortable and asked a young model like girl to sit down. After a lot of drinks I made a deal with the mama (sorry someone in charge) for a private massage (real massage but hoped she would be topless) with the girl. Well there was a vip room upstairs so we went. This girl did an exceptional massage well I told her of my wife and kids and our Philippine journey to meet relatives. The massage ended and the girl proceeded to touch my penis still covered with underwear. It and myself got well excited. Thought a handjob might be ok (not thinking with brain). She said I want to fuck you took off her panties and on top of me she rode in a blink of an eye. I felt myself about to cum pushed and her off. Well 10 days later I find out I have herpes and so does my wife.

On our stopover back I go to bar to to inquire of my new gift for life only to learn (through girls drinks) the girl was new and does not have a medical certificate. Also one of the girls tells me that when a girl is infected her career and chances of going abroad are seriously jeopardized and they go on revenge craze to give back what was given to them. WTF. My wife became seriously ill I told her what went on she forgave me why I do not know. We are home recovering.


Friend of mine just emailed me he got hep be from a regular girl in makati. Bareback seems crazy to me. Does anybody know what they test the bar girls for, is it only hiv? A bar girl I meet in cebu didn't even know what herpes is. Very scary because I like daty. I guess no more.

To the old hands this maybe old news but to all you new guys out there you guys should try Crown condoms. I have tried them all Durex, Trojan, PI local brand LOL but I can testify Crown is where it is at. After a fairly recent encounter of the bar girl kind I had to keep checking to see if it had broken because of the sensation and no I am not on the payroll.

Poopbunny
08-03-09, 22:17
Hello all!

As a first timer to Angeles I wonder if its possible to buy Viagra here without a prescription? If not is it it safe to buy on the streets? Or maybe the hotel employees can help?

I would appriciate all info on this.


Yes! No presription required.

It is usually safe to buy on the street, whether it works, is another question. They are probably fake, but some of them have the correct active ingredient. Don't pay more than P200 a box. Try it, if it works go back to the same vendor.

Poopbunny
08-03-09, 22:23
The dirty little secret of AC is that they almost all bareback without question. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you view such things..

It is not a dirty little secret of AC but of Phillipines in general.

Also I would not say as many as "almost all" bareback, some wait for your initiative to use one, if you don't, they don't either. Some will insist.

Like some another mongers have posted, I agree that pregnancy (not disease) is the main concern for them. If you wan't to go bareback please try not to get the girl pregnant without giving them some recourse if you do get them pregnant. Also try some alternatives, eg. sponge etc..

Sammon
08-03-09, 23:27
Sammon great post but guys like this are past caring about STDs any thoughts why?
It is not the question of why? Granted in most of the world nowadays hookers do not allow BBFS and many times do not do BBBJ.
Many good looking girls in AC do not do BBFS unless they become your friend after a while. I would really watch out for girls who really get drunk.
So when they go to southeast asia they feel free to indulge in bareback behaviour. Lots of us have done bareback once in a while because of various reasons with a prostitute. But to do it routinely is not good for them, the girls and other mongers.
There is no need to worry whether you fathered a child. Unless it is a relationship with a normal girl these AC girls do not even know who fathered their child. Even with a normal girl you are not really sure because she have a BF on the side and just to get money from you will tell you , you are the father and need to support the child. Do not support till the tests are done. Many people have been fooled by this.

Ben2
08-04-09, 00:58
Some of us formulate different reasons not to wear condoms. We complain that condoms do not fit them properly, ruin our sexual appetite, or prevent us from enjoying sex. I look at it this way…how many others have shot off in her! The odds are against me if I were to continue to not use one. And I KNOW the risks! We look her over, checking her out for any visible signs of sores, etc…but that does not mean she is clean. And also, maybe the guy is not clean and will now infect others! I’d rather have a BBBJCIM if she is good at it. Risks are there but not as much as in my opinion when compared to actually screwing. I would never ever trust a woman who is in the sex industry when she tells me that I am the only one! Yeah…I’m the only one at that time until I leave and she needs more money and hooks up with another! No matter what you believe, the majority of these women are seeing other men! And your best friend is also hitting on her and dipping into her!

John Traveller
08-04-09, 06:51
Arriving in AC yesterday I became I pit puzzled. In the two bars I went into (Dolls House + Carousel) it seemed impossible to take any of the girls out, just talking going on in there. This in contrast to what I read in this forum. Or do I need to go to other bars, those at the perimeter road?

BTW, I like this map: http://acmap.com/main.asp

Cheers

Ekspat
08-04-09, 07:42
“We have a master list of these 12,000 women who are registered with the city government. The sad fact is that there are 12,000 more of them who can be classified freelance sex workers,” said Pineda.
Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.

I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.

And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.

Cheers!

Betong
08-04-09, 08:54
In the two bars I went into (Dolls House + Carousel) it seemed impossible to take any of the girls outTwo of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.

X Man
08-05-09, 03:06
Although I agree with Ekspat's comments, you do see some very hot women walking around in immodest clothing -- I assume they are in the trade, but they won't even say hello as you pass them on the street. You also see them driving relatively new scooters. I've come to the conclusion that a large percentage of the hottest bar girls in town are in temporary retirement because of some financial windfall. So, maybe that accounts for some of the freelancers.

X


Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.

I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.

And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.

Cheers!

Hesekiels
08-05-09, 06:50
... it seemed impossible to take any of the girls out, just talking going on in there ...


JT:

you are writing correctly "it seemed..." and not "it is ..."! Although the bars you have mentioned are not my preferred places, I bet my life that lots of girls (>80%!?) would be most pleased to go out with you whenever you offer them a barfine! However, if ALL of them refuse you then you have indeed an issue! But this is more than unlikely, isn't it! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

John Traveller
08-05-09, 12:27
Two of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.You were right! I went to the bar Bodyshop. Not too much for drinks, 1500 barfine. I found a very nice girl here, and Im very satiesfied. Not much sleep this night!

Robbaf
08-05-09, 12:36
Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.

I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.

And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.

Cheers!
Working with Filipinos everyday I found that they will keep records (hand written) forever. So that list is probably 25 years old.:D That would also explains the 12,000 bar girls.

Aussiec
08-05-09, 14:22
Its rather strange that you say you can not barfine at Dollhouse or Carousel. Especially at Dollhouse where there are so many to choose from and many go days and even a week without a barfine. Most would jump at chance to go with you. I have seen some guys with poor hygiene go out the door with some pretty decent looking spinners. Its all about the money. Now having said that I will tell you nomatter how smelly or rude you are there are select girls that will go out with anyone nomatter how fat, smelly, old, rude you are. I put that at 40%. Respect and hygeine will usually put your chances at 90 to almost 100% with anygirl. That being the exception of cherry girls. Even cherry girls can be had if you want to bf them a week, spoil them and treat them kind but that is risky if you get the cherry. Japanese guys have done there homework on this method. So not to be rude, if your having trouble getting barfine at these places I wonder what your doing wrong. I usually just visit these places with my existing bf whoever she is and have many ask to be bf from these places. I have ST before from both places but I think Dollhouse is to expensive and overrated compared to better and other girls at other bars.

Aussiec
08-05-09, 16:21
Gosh. What a place that will never get my business. Friend of mine told me about the bull sh*t that went on there. Also read it from Jimmy Regina post. Was anyone at the pool party. Evidently the hotel did a poor public relations move and back out on there word where party was abruptly moved to Lewis Grand Hotel where all visitors were greeted with open arms. I guess Sydney Hotel back out on word of 1/2 price drinks for girls and also wanted to charge P100 a girl for use of pool which was alledgadly not what was agreed on and I guess other "bola bola" from hotel. If this is true I count the days that Sydney Hotel will be out of business. I even heard Sydney Hotel not allow 2 girls in room! Gosh is this true? Hmmmm. How the hell will a Hotel stay in business in AC if you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off enough mongers and have such strict guidelines. Thank God we have choice of so many other Hotels that will smile, allow us to have fun, and let us carry on with the show.

Broko
08-05-09, 18:17
Two of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.I had no problem at all to barfine (1350 pesos) a girl. She stayed with me for 3 days. Service was great.

Sharka
08-05-09, 23:13
Although I agree with Ekspat's comments, you do see some very hot women walking around in immodest clothing -- I assume they are in the trade, but they won't even say hello as you pass them on the street. You also see them driving relatively new scooters. I've come to the conclusion that a large percentage of the hottest bar girls in town are in temporary retirement because of some financial windfall. So, maybe that accounts for some of the freelancers.

X


perhaps several sugardaddys in several countries sponsoring them( of course each not knowing the others exist). Happens alot in LOS.

John Traveller
08-06-09, 10:51
JT:

you are writing correctly "it seemed..." and not "it is ..."! Although the bars you have mentioned are not my preferred places, I bet my life that lots of girls (>80%!?) would be most pleased to go out with you whenever you offer them a barfine! However, if ALL of them refuse you then you have indeed an issue! But this is more than unlikely, isn't it! :)

Cheers!

HesekielsMaybe I expressed myself incorrectly, by saying "any" girl. I just asked one girl in each of the two places mentioned. Both young, so after reading some of the comment I guess they were new to the bars or even cherry. Also I didnt see anybody leaving with girls in the time I was there. So I decided these places were no good, this maybe too early? Anyway, I have now found better bars in AC.

Rob Woodrow
08-07-09, 05:17
I agree about staying in the Fields area. The only time the Checkpoint hotels are an advantage is if you are barhopping both Fields and Perimeter EVERY DAY. If 90% of your hopping is in one area or the other you're better off staying there and taking the odd trike or jeepney to the farther area.


I suggest you stay in the Fields area, the hotels are close and girl friendly. I'm pretty sure that the Hotel Vida is not girl friendly and it is far from the action. A great place to stay is in the Checkpoint area. It is near both Fields Avenue and Perimeter, which are the two mongering areas. I usually stay at Hotel Hana. A good website is http://balibago.org/ which has a lot of good bar and hotel information.

Durango

X Man
08-07-09, 07:53
Perhaps, but it only takes one to turn her into ...into a what? The original message was in reference to "freelancer", but since these ladies now have "boyfriends", I suppose the term is inaccurate. My point was they may be called freelancers statistically since they are only one Western Union visit away from the bar.

Had a blast at Byrd Cage last night. Only two customers, so the girls were entertaining themselves with all kinds of monkey business. The two that were humping eachother were quite entertaining. Then one applied excess redlipstick, added freckles, put on some old sunglasses and there was one hell of a comedy show that ensued. Far better than any show I saw at Dollhouse. The mamasan, Divine, speaks Japanese, and probably was a real looker twenty years ago.

Two Michelle's, one a comedian, one 18, both with nice petite bodies. Michelle 18 could pass for 16, despite having a child. This would be a good place if you like them petite and also if you like threesomes. My barfine told me she'd done threesomes with two of the other girls...and she did lick pussy.

She only got to lick X Man last night. Stayed until noon.

X




perhaps several sugardaddys in several countries sponsoring them( of course each not knowing the others exist). Happens alot in LOS.

Tdu1510
08-07-09, 13:43
I have an EDGE USB modem, you put a SIM card inside and you can connect to the internet. What SIM can you recommend to use for a data connection.

Sharka
08-07-09, 23:50
.

Had a blast at Byrd Cage last night.
She only got to lick X Man last night. Stayed until noon.

X


What's the barfine at this place--is it at Fields or Perimeter?

Sharka
08-07-09, 23:57
Perhaps, but it only takes one to turn her into ...into a what? The original message was in reference to "freelancer", but since these ladies now have "boyfriends", I suppose the term is inaccurate. My point was they may be called freelancers statistically since they are only one Western Union visit away from the bar.

.

X


Actually the ones I met that had multiple sugardaddys (they may also be called "sponsors" by others) were all still freelancers- when their "boyfriends" are not in town. Its their way of making contact with mongers and hooking them like fishes--of course I didn't get hooked as I didn't take the bait--it was fun anyway but as long as you dont get too attached them its all ok. They mainly look for the vulnerable/ lonely older guys type so they can add them to their list of sponsors. Sucks , but guys fall for this all the time.
Next time I'm in LOS, I have to check if they are usually near a Western Union- ha ha

X Man
08-08-09, 09:14
I think it is 1200 or 1300. It's one block off of fields...same street as Crystal Palace and old Orchid inn.


What's the barfine at this place--is it at Fields or Perimeter?

LoveAsianWhores
08-08-09, 15:42
I have an EDGE USB modem, you put a SIM card inside and you can connect to the internet. What SIM can you recommend to use for a data connection.I can only recommend what I have. Just go into any globe telecom store (they are in every Ayala and most other malls) and get a Tatoo USB HSDPA adapter. 2,000 pesos, pretty much nationwide coverage, and only 20 pesos an hour. Best of all, no contracts and they use the regular load cards available everywhere.

Sorokonozka
08-08-09, 21:41
Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.

There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.

As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?

The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?

If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?

I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)

Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.

Soro

GoodEnough
08-09-09, 00:57
i can only recommend what i have. just go into any globe telecom store (they are in every ayala and most other malls) and get a tatoo usb hsdpa adapter. 2,000 pesos, pretty much nationwide coverage, and only 20 pesos an hour. best of all, no contracts and they use the regular load cards available everywhere.
i have both the tatoo and a subscription-based pldt weroam, and they're about the same. the speed varies as a function of where you are and how many people are online, but they're reliable and inexpensive.
ge

Broko
08-09-09, 14:05
Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.

There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.

As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?

The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?

If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?

I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)

Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.

SoroFor everyday you just pay the barfine. If the service is good and i suppose that will be if you take the same girl a couple of days its good to pay a tip to her. Its up to you how much or buy her some clothes.

You wont have problems in finding girls. Same as in Patts

Acqua
08-09-09, 17:30
Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.

There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.

As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?

The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?

If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?

I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)

Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.

SoroThe barfine includes the girls share. A tip of 0-500 p depending on performance is pretty standard (I usually average giving 300 p with the 500 p reserved for a girl who really rocks my world). The length of time the girl stays is between you and her. Some will want to leave after one pop and others will stay until they go to work the next day. I highly advise you make the length of stay negotiation part of your pre-barfine interview with it being understood that failure to fulfill terms will result in no tip.

If you want a girl to stay longer than one day, once again this is between you and the girl. If you want her to stay, expect to pay her barfine each night the girl is with you, but if she is really into you she will call into work "sick" in which case the next morning, I usually give them the amount of the barfine and they are happy.

If you can't get laid in AC, you might as well just curl up and die. That being said, you will have an occasional day when you are just not "feeling it". Every girl you call down fails your "interview" in some way-attitude, has mens, whatever and the next thing you know you are [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk, have no barfine, and its 3 or 4 AM. At that point, you can either start texting previous barfines in hopes someone did not bf that night, hit Santos for a little relief, or simply call it a night and catch up on your sleep and begin the hunt again the next afternoon.

BuleDaddy
08-09-09, 21:16
Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.


Soro
The differences are as follows. I will use Pattaya as a comparison to AC.
In Pattaya you are face to face with the girl to get acquainted and do the interview and you can head out without buying her a drink or having a 2nd beer after you pay the 200-600 bht barfine (1 minute). When you get to the hotel you pay after services are rendered. Sometimes the pooyiing is not down with doing an old geezer, because I am also in my 60's. Maybe she is mensing and wants a night off. If she ain't in the shower and polishing the knob properly 15 minutes after coming in the room I send her away with no hard feelings and no money. I never offer food, drink or anything before the services are rendered and if she turns on the tv she is gone. Threats about getting an ass kickng by her catooee friends are always laughed at by me. She will go back to the bar and tell everybody you couldn't get a stiffy. You are only out $10-$15 and right back in the game.

In AC the clubs are far more in control of the p4p AND theIR girls, while the girls in Pattaya are more like the waiters or waitresses. The AC clubs compare better to a Thai Fishbowl. Almost always there is a stage where the girls are kind of dancing to music in bikinis with numbers. You pick one and they will push you to buy her a ladies drink but you can interview first before blowing the money. Tell them to wait a minute. Then if the interview goes well you might buy a ladies drink and pay the 1200-1500 bf and she comes back with you. I have had some of the best play and the worst play from the Fields ave places. You can usually tell from how enthusiastic the girl is, unlike Thailand where a starfish often behaves gung ho at the bar and a wild one looks bored to tears. The problem IS that you are already out $40-$50 before you get to your hotel between the beer, ladies drink, bf and mammasan tip that they often ask for but I always promise to give it when we get back. You can usually tell from how insistent the mammasan's demand for a tip is before hand that she already knows you have a dud. That's my 2 cents. Much easier to communicate in AC because the girls all speak English and many know the Spanish Numeric system so it is easy to cut a deal. I always like to tell the girl she what she will be getting after services are rendered. Better to tell her to get lost and start over at a different club than to cause a ruckus. The Koreans and Japs throw money around like drunk sailors there so if you see a club with a lot of N.Asians better to try another one. Don't walk around late at night in AC and vary your routine. 7 round eyed residents and tourists were murdered there last winter. As far as time is concerned, that is also up to the girl. If you can convince her she will make more pleasing you and staying she will do so. Sometimes they are in a hurry to get back to dog as many as possible and get the biggest number of commissions from BFs and Lady's drinks rather than waste time with some guy that won't cough up any cash in the end, like many of my friends from certain countries and ethnic groups(sorry). So, the girl's safest bet is to have as many return trips as possible rather than take a chance with some cheapskate with a huge dick that might bone them many times and put them out of commission (or commissions, literally). Remember that to a working girl, fucking is WORK and not necessarily fun. I have seen some ISG posts that AC is heading down the path of the p4p in Korea a few years back.

Carmex
08-11-09, 04:30
I have seen some ISG posts that AC is heading down the path of the p4p in Korea a few years back.

Pretty good advice and insight from BlueDaddy. Take heed young warriors, as BD's report is legit and on target.

My question would be for further explanation of the above statement. I know the way Korea was in the 90's; lots more fun and way less expensive :). And I know the way it is now; way more expensive and less fun or wild.

I was considering heading down to AC for this weekend, but stayed home instead and did housework. Maybe the novelty and excitement has worn off. I do still love that pinay pussy though.

BD you can PM me if don't want to respond in the forum.

Sorokonozka
08-11-09, 07:19
Thanks to all for answering my questions.

I am sure I will succeed! You don't get to be this old and ugly without gaining some common sense.

So now what's left is to choose the hotel and book the flight.

Soro

Tom Mabuhay
08-11-09, 14:36
The differences are as follows. I will use Pattaya as a comparison to AC.

In Pattaya you are face to face with the girl to get acquainted and do the interview and you can head out without buying her a drink or having a 2nd beer after you pay the 200-600 bht barfine (1 minute). When you get to the hotel you pay after services are rendered. Sometimes the pooyiing is not down with doing an old geezer, because I am also in my 60's. Maybe she is mensing and wants a night off. If she ain't in the shower and polishing the knob properly 15 minutes after coming in the room I send her away with no hard feelings and no money. I never offer food, drink or anything before the services are rendered and if she turns on the tv she is gone. Threats about getting an ass kickng by her catooee friends are always laughed at by me. She will go back to the bar and tell everybody you couldn't get a stiffy. You are only out $10-$15 and right back in the game.

In AC the clubs are far more in control of the p4p AND theIR girls, while the girls in Pattaya are more like the waiters or waitresses. The AC clubs compare better to a Thai Fishbowl. Almost always there is a stage where the girls are kind of dancing to music in bikinis with numbers. You pick one and they will push you to buy her a ladies drink but you can interview first before blowing the money. Tell them to wait a minute. Then if the interview goes well you might buy a ladies drink and pay the 1200-1500 bf and she comes back with you. I have had some of the best play and the worst play from the Fields ave places. You can usually tell from how enthusiastic the girl is, unlike Thailand where a starfish often behaves gung ho at the bar and a wild one looks bored to tears. The problem IS that you are already out $40-$50 before you get to your hotel between the beer, ladies drink, bf and mammasan tip that they often ask for but I always promise to give it when we get back. You can usually tell from how insistent the mammasan's demand for a tip is before hand that she already knows you have a dud. That's my 2 cents. Much easier to communicate in AC because the girls all speak English and many know the Spanish Numeric system so it is easy to cut a deal. I always like to tell the girl she what she will be getting after services are rendered. Better to tell her to get lost and start over at a different club than to cause a ruckus. The Koreans and Japs throw money around like drunk sailors there so if you see a club with a lot of N. Asians better to try another one. Don't walk around late at night in AC and vary your routine. 7 round eyed residents and tourists were murdered there last winter. As far as time is concerned, that is also up to the girl. If you can convince her she will make more pleasing you and staying she will do so. Sometimes they are in a hurry to get back to dog as many as possible and get the biggest number of commissions from BFs and Lady's drinks rather than waste time with some guy that won't cough up any cash in the end, like many of my friends from certain countries and ethnic groups (sorry). So, the girl's safest bet is to have as many return trips as possible rather than take a chance with some cheapskate with a huge dick that might bone them many times and put them out of commission (or commissions, literally). Remember that to a working girl, fucking is WORK and not necessarily fun. I have seen some ISG posts that AC is heading down the path of the p4p in Korea a few years back.You are so right about Angeles! It's not only this 'prepaid system', but the worst are the boarding houses, provided from the bars. So the bars can control the girls 24 hrs. It's like keeping them as slaves. Almost nothing like this in Pattaya, where they can do what they want after bar closing time.

Amavida
08-12-09, 14:22
I have an EDGE USB modem, you put a SIM card inside and you can connect to the internet. What SIM can you recommend to use for a data connection.Depends on location but usually Globe has the most stable & decent signal for internet. YMMV
AV

Sammon
08-12-09, 17:34
You are so right about Angeles! It's not only this 'prepaid system', but the worst are the boarding houses, provided from the bars. So the bars can control the girls 24 hrs. It's like keeping them as slaves. Almost nothing like this in Pattaya, where they can do what they want after bar closing time.
More and more girls are not staying in the boarding houses. They rent a room or house with couple of other girls. This gives them more freedom and time to freelance without the bar knowing about it.

MCruddy
08-12-09, 23:37
Can anyone tell me if they still do the Thunderstruck song at the Roadhouse Bar and if so, when, or how ofter, do they do it?

MCruddy

GoodEnough
08-12-09, 23:55
Depends on location but usually Globe has the most stable & decent signal for internet. YMMV

AVI think the decision on whether to use SMART or GLOBE depends largely on where you are. I have USB modems for each, and they work about the same in most of the larger cities, but in the more rural areas, one will typically have a stronger, more reliable signal. However, since Sim cards of so inexpensive, you can just buy one of each and use whichever one works best in a given area.

GE

LoveAsianWhores
08-13-09, 13:01
I think the decision on whether to use SMART or GLOBE depends largely on where you are. I have USB modems for each, and they work about the same in most of the larger cities, but in the more rural areas, one will typically have a stronger, more reliable signal. However, since Sim cards of so inexpensive, you can just buy one of each and use whichever one works best in a given area.

GECan you put a Smart sim card in a Globe Tatoo USB, or do you need to buy Smart's own device?

I assume you can't, but I'll ask just in case.

Aussiec
08-13-09, 14:45
Yes they still do Thunderstruck with the hair shaking, usually 3 times a night if I am corect but costermer can ask them too do it with modesy yipyo do it for them.

Hesekiels
08-13-09, 18:36
... but the worst are the boarding houses, provided from the bars. So the bars can control the girls 24 hrs. It's like keeping them as slaves...


if this is true I am wondering why some girls are so damn eager to go back to their slave drivers at 2:30am? Wouldn't it be more pleasant for them to stay with us in a nice aircon room with TV and hot shower? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Robbaf
08-13-09, 22:30
I think the decision on whether to use SMART or GLOBE depends largely on where you are. I have USB modems for each, and they work about the same in most of the larger cities, but in the more rural areas, one will typically have a stronger, more reliable signal. However, since Sim cards of so inexpensive, you can just buy one of each and use whichever one works best in a given area.

GEI agree GE. I have the Globe and when I was in Bohol it would not work, but the owner of the resort had a Smart Bro and she loaned it to me and it worked fine.

Lopkx
08-14-09, 02:17
Pretty good advice and insight from BlueDaddy. Take heed young warriors, as BD's report is legit and on target.

My question would be for further explanation of the above statement. I know the way Korea was in the 90's; lots more fun and way less expensive :). And I know the way it is now; way more expensive and less fun or wild.

I was considering heading down to AC for this weekend, but stayed home instead and did housework. Maybe the novelty and excitement has worn off. I do still love that pinay pussy though.

BD you can PM me if don't want to respond in the forum.I second that, I 2 am curious.

Yella Man
08-14-09, 03:12
I agree GE. I have the Globe and when I was in Bohol it would not work, but the owner of the resort had a Smart Bro and she loaned it to me and it worked fine.


Robbaf, did you ever try using a dual sim phone with both a smart and globe sim card in it? I'm bringing one in January to see if it will work. There's nothing more frustrating then making plans to meet a young lady only to discover she has stopped texting you because she has no Load. It would be nice to be able to pass a load to Smart or Globe phones, and to just the ability to have two numbers on one phone. Imagine the convenience of having that over there! Game on baby!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Acqua
08-14-09, 03:26
Robbaf, did you ever try using a dual sim phone with both a smart and globe sim card in it? I'm bringing one in January to see if it will work. Yella Man,

It will work or it least it did a few weeks ago.

Hardest part was remembering which was which.

Ekspat
08-14-09, 10:31
did you ever try using a dual sim phone with both a smart and globe sim card in it?
Yeah, it works fine, nothing to worry.
36 days to go..... :D

Cheers!

Robbaf
08-14-09, 14:16
Robbaf, did you ever try using a dual sim phone with both a smart and globe sim card in it? I'm bringing one in January to see if it will work. There's nothing more frustrating then making plans to meet a young lady only to discover she has stopped texting you because she has no Load. It would be nice to be able to pass a load to Smart or Globe phones, and to just the ability to have two numbers on one phone. Imagine the convenience of having that over there! Game on baby!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella ManHey YM,

I just have Globe and I use Ebay and purchase Smart 115P eload for 3.15. That way if I don't want to send load I can say sorry I am Globe.

Robb

Amavida
08-14-09, 16:39
if this is true I am wondering why some girls are so damn eager to go back to their slave drivers at 2:30am? Wouldn't it be more pleasant for them to stay with us in a nice aircon room with TV and hot shower? :)

Cheers!
HesekielsH Its not really the mammsans that are the driving force, more usually its the girls family pushing them to go earn a dollar. The boarding house attached to the bar is a little social microcosm of which the new girls becomes a part. As others have noted, after the girl becomes 'seasoned' she will attempt to team up with other girls, often sisters or cousins, & shack up in an apartment where she can escape the watchful eye of the mammasan & pursue relationships outside the bar (remittance BF's).

AV

Amavida
08-14-09, 16:46
I think the decision on whether to use SMART or GLOBE depends largely on where you are. I have USB modems for each, and they work about the same in most of the larger cities, but in the more rural areas, one will typically have a stronger, more reliable signal. However, since Sim cards of so inexpensive, you can just buy one of each and use whichever one works best in a given area.

GEYes GE, signal strength is the ultimate arbiter of Telco choice. Even in the heart of Manila there are areas where one company may have a lousy signal compared to another. Overall I have had better service from Globe but you take what you can get.

I use DSL via land line mostly & it is very good value compared to, say, Australia. I supplement this with free WiFi when out & about, falling back to 3G only as a last resort.

Since the vast majority of lurkers here are vacationers, DSL is a luxury they will rarely have access to.

AV

GoodEnough
08-15-09, 00:15
Robbaf, did you ever try using a dual sim phone with both a smart and globe sim card in it? I'm bringing one in January to see if it will work. There's nothing more frustrating then making plans to meet a young lady only to discover she has stopped texting you because she has no Load. It would be nice to be able to pass a load to Smart or Globe phones, and to just the ability to have two numbers on one phone. Imagine the convenience of having that over there! Game on baby!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man
I use a dual sim Samsung, with one Globe and one Smart sim. It works just fine and the advantage if you're traveling is that you can opt to use the service with the strongest signal in any given location.
GE

Amavida
08-15-09, 05:06
I use a dual sim Samsung, with one Globe and one Smart sim. It works just fine and the advantage if you're traveling is that you can opt to use the service with the strongest signal in any given location.
GEHey GE do you find cell phones die more often here in the Phils? Im pretty careful with mine and in the past always had them still alive well after the end of their contracts, but since living here in the Phils I have found handsets going US after only about 12 months or so. maybe its the heat? maybe newer handsets are made to a lower standard now?
Shrugs..

AV

GoodEnough
08-15-09, 09:15
Hey GE do you find cell phones die more often here in the Phils? Im pretty careful with mine and in the past always had them still alive well after the end of their contracts, but since living here in the Phils I have found handsets going US after only about 12 months or so. maybe its the heat? maybe newer handsets are made to a lower standard now?
Shrugs..

AV
My experience is similar to yours. I never keep them more than a year. It could be the heat, or it could be that they just get tired of being here. Having just gotten a new Blackberry, I'm hoping that it will last the course, but I doubt it, and my Samsung, now about a year old, is showing signs of early death throes as well.

Cunning Stunt
08-15-09, 09:59
I find that is often the battery that goes tits up first with CP’s in The Philippines. This is a problem that is usually easily remedied.

When you tire of your CP, why not give it to your favourite GF of the moment. I do and I can assure you that she will be very grateful and will show it in the best way that she knows how;). Even if she does not need it, she will have a zillion relatives back in her village/barangay who do and so she will gain great merit/face by gifting it to them.

Sorokonozka
08-15-09, 10:37
Moving right along with the future AC trip...

I like to pick a lady in the evening and then get her to stay till her next shift.

The reasoning is that I won't get lonely or bored. There's someone to show me around and I just like the general bullshit associated with a much younger lady!
During the time I'm with her we will of course eat, get to do whatever is on (this is what I will need discover. Bowling?) and perhaps if she's really good, get me to buy something for her.

Are the AC ladies as gold crazy as their Thai sisters? Not that I buy too much gold, but I don't mind helping her look!

So I figured as follows for a daily budget:

Hotel - 4000 pesos. I like little confort!
Lady - 2000 including tip
Food - 2000
Other - 1000

How will I fare on this? Any major mistake?

I am pretty good with street food and usually like the local stuff - the spicier the better. Must read up a little about Philippine cuisine, although I read in the forum that the food in AC sucks!

Thanks for your time

Sorro

Jallabar 1207
08-15-09, 13:16
Do you guys have any recommendation on btm range hotels with reliable broadband that offers long term deals in and around Angeles?

Matt

Juant Pussy
08-16-09, 01:18
Hey GE do you find cell phones die more often here in the Phils?...
AVAll electronics susceptible to high humidity. Taking a phone that has been cooled in aircon room and then you go outside into hot humid air. I used to see warnings about that in some owners manual. Try to keep phone warm by setting near tv or between your gf legs. Not in pussy.

BuleDaddy
08-16-09, 03:08
Moving right along with the future AC trip...

I like to pick a lady in the evening and then get her to stay till her next shift.



Thanks for your time

Sorro
Don't buy anything for the Thai girls. They will take you "sopping" at Lotus and then take the stuff right back to buy their boyfriend a watch.
The Thai women are spoiled rotten. I don't buy them squat. After the pooyings make their hard time pitch for money I remind them that they make more money than a college professor or the head nurse at big hospital. Pinay girls usually just want money for their impoverished families. They love silver. I have never seen one wearing gold except the fair untouchables that won't even talk to you. The pinays come from far worse circumstances than the spoiled Thai girls. Their country has been ravaged by Spaniards, Americans, Japanese, and now the Chinese merchant class. Manila was the jewel of the orient until the Japs came in then the US Naval Guns flattened it during ww2. The Thais declared war on the US in ww2 and their DC diplomat carried the declaration in his pocket, never delivering it. When we dropped the Abomb on Japan the Thais declared war on Japan and siezed their assets. The Pinoy national hero is Lapu Lapu. This dude had the balls to kill the great Magellan. While the world was bowing down to smelly spaniards and the Pope, Lapu and his boys shot the heavily armoured spaniards in the legs with poison arrows and then chopped them to Pieces. That should give you some idea of who you want as a friend. The Pinoy population was 17m in the 40's and now it is 90m. In the 60's 75% of their population was above the poverty line and not it has flip flopped to 25%. Those places on Fields ave are all owned by greedy Aussies and Europeans, not Pinoys. Pinoy food is GREAT. Eat at the malls. Grab a rotisserie chicken and rice. and bring it back to eat after your boink your honey. Pandesal bread is delicious. Goto soup is a tasty rice porridge with tripe. They have great grilled seafood that you dip in vinegar. AC gets boring and looks like a warzone in between the 2 malls. Take the bus to Bario Baretto, and Subic. Stock up your fridge with stuff from Hypermart in SM Clark or from Robinson's. The girls were never in a hurry to get back to the bar when they were with me. Dude, it is rainy season. The action MUST be good in AC right now!!! If you get a nice Hotel and let the girl watch the Wah Wah Wee TV show in between knobbers and boinkings she'll hang with you. What are you waiting for?

Ekspat
08-16-09, 03:51
So I figured as follows for a daily budget:

Hotel - 4000 pesos. I like little comfort!
Lady - 2000 including tip
Food - 2000
Other - 1000

Any major mistake?
Nope. No problem at all with that budget. Mine would be:

Hotel - 4000 pesos. I like little comfort! Me too.
2 Ladies - 4000 including tip
Food - 1000
Other - 500

Acqua
08-16-09, 05:15
So I figured as follows for a daily budget:

Hotel - 4000 pesos. I like little confort!
Lady - 2000 including tip
Food - 2000
Other - 1000

How will I fare on this? Any major mistake?

Thanks for your time

SorroI would add alcohol for yourself and ladies drinks. Even if you do not drink, you will still be buying mineral water/juice/sodas in the bars. As far as ladies drinks, if you are a point and click kind of guy then these may be minimal, but I tend to "interview" maybe 5 girls throughout the course of the night before I find my target. To each their own. Then of course there are the beverages for you and your barfine should you go barhopping. I find that I often spend more on beverages in the course of a day most of the time than I do women.

Your food budget may also be a bit high unless you are really putting away the food. A meal at a very good (by AC standards) restaurant for two will set you back maybe 800 p. If you dine alone for two out of the three meals or just eat at Kokomos/MS/SM you will have a hard time spending 2000 p per day on food. I generally find that many times I get all excited and tied up in the "search" during the day/evening and realize at 11 PM that I have simply forgotten to eat all day. I am by no means a small guy and don't miss many meals, but usually end up dropping around 10 pounds during the course of a two week trip. A lot of that is due to the exercise-both walking and other activities, but part also is just the fact that food becomes almost an afterthought in the playland.

Rob Woodrow
08-16-09, 06:33
Moving right along with the future AC trip...

I like to pick a lady in the evening and then get her to stay till her next shift.
Even the girls who will stay long time will want to leave well before that (run errands, do laundry, take nap, screw local boyfriend). Better negotiate ahead of time and offer a large tip, or barfine her for two consecutive days. On one recent trip I had about half my barfines leave after one round, even after promising long time in the bar. My most recent trip had a much better ratio. But you should be aware it's possible that they will flat out lie to you about staying long time.

There's someone to show me around and I just like the general bullshit associated with a much younger lady!
During the time I'm with her we will of course eat, get to do whatever is on (this is what I will need discover. Bowling?)
There's not that much to see or do or discover. Barhop and go to the mall(s), that's about it. The areas of interest in AC are tiny, tiny, tiny.

Hotel - 4000 pesos. I like little confort!
You can get comfort for half that. See, for example, the Hotel Royal Amsterdam Superior Rooms. Even RA's jacuzzi rooms are only 3000 pesos. There are others. More expensive does not necessarily equal better in AC. It took me a few trips to figure that out.

Lady - 2000 including tip
Food - 2000
Other - 1000
All probably reasonable, unless you're really expecting the girl to stay right up until her shift starts. That will probably cost you more.

Amavida
08-16-09, 17:06
I will be coming AC this tues 18 aug. This is my first time and I hope I can meet some guys there to guide me. Just txt me at +6591872035. Ross here. Once there, I will buy local sim card.Ross, no one is going to txt your chinese cp number (Honkers?). I think if you walk out of your AC hotel & into any AC bar you will find plenty of patrons who will give you a few tips over a drink. The place is wall to wall 'bars' (and very little else), start at one end of Fields Ave & bar hop until you see what you like. Also doing a little reading of the posts here would be very helpful .. ahem..

Have fun dude!
AV

Yella Man
08-16-09, 23:08
I use a dual sim Samsung, with one Globe and one Smart sim. It works just fine and the advantage if you're traveling is that you can opt to use the service with the strongest signal in any given location.
GE


Thanks for the info guys. I'll move locations several times during my January trip and will go thru about six sim cards. This prevents the girls I had previously met in other locations from texting me to death while I'm trying to secure some new ass in a new area.

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Yellow Fever #2
08-17-09, 04:26
Original article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-fields-avenue16-2009aug16,0,4909601,print.story

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In Philippine town, the U.S. airmen are long gone, but the tawdry streets remain

In Angeles City, the Clark Air Base servicemen have been replaced by lonely old men lured by young girls selling sex for the price of a burger and fries.

By John M. Glionna

August 16, 2009

Reporting from Angeles City, Philippines


At a club called Koko Yoko, balding men with bulging bellies sit at an outdoor bar, sipping beers and leering at the young girls who pass on the model's runway gone wrong called Fields Avenue.

Many of the girls weigh barely 90 pounds, their high heels pushing their almost adolescent bodies at perverse angles. There are cross-dressers fooling no one, calling out to men with tattoos, Popeye forearms and gray hair on their backs.

"Lady boy!" they squeal. "Lady boy!"

Some men pass by with girls one-third their age, swinging their hands together like a couple on a first date. Others cavort with three girls at once, the women all clutching their client like daughters competing for Daddy's attention.

Fields Avenue, the main pedestrian drag in Angeles City, is a legacy of the time when this row of run-down bars was the romping ground of restless young American airmen stationed at Clark Air Base.

The U.S. base closed in 1992, and the often-randy airmen have gone with it. But the girls, the sex, the round-the-clock raunchiness remain. Only the customers have changed.

A thriving sex tourism trade attracts foreign customers by the thousands in search of something they cannot find back home: girls young enough to be their granddaughters selling sex for the price of a burger and fries.

Once populated by men in their early 20s who started each day with 100 push-ups, the place is now home to older men who need help pushing themselves out of bed in the morning.

Most are bused up from Manila, an hour away, on golf and sex package deals. This is no quasi-innocent boys' night out. Rather, it's a single-minded realm of weary-looking loners on a resolute hunt that smacks of feeding an addiction.

Many are ex-military men reliving former glories, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper wannabes, some gathering at the local American Legion post before embarking into the night.

There is a one-armed man, a retiree with a walker and another dapper gentleman who strolls along in a dress shirt, twirling an umbrella, whistling a private tune.

Many head to the bars with the red-light special called "The Early-Release": Buy your girl 10 drinks and she's yours, no questions asked.

Nobody asks questions here. Nobody gives their name. Credit cards are a joke; who wants to leave behind any economic traces that they ever set foot here?

A young dancer in tight red hip-hugger pants and matching sports bra acknowledges that Fields Avenue may not be pretty, but the money is good. She rolls her eyes at two overweight men who pass by looking like large reptiles dressed in children's clothing.

Sure, the sex is disgusting, she says. But at least it's over quickly.

Outside Koko Yoko, the doorman, a 33-year-old paraplegic, perches on a wheeled wooden pallet. He says his father was an American who once served at Clark, his mother a local girl. He contracted polio when he was 11 and has worked here ever since.

The street, he says, takes care of him. Soon, an idle stripper climbs onto his back, rubbing her crotch into the back of his neck.

Nearby a saggy-faced Australian lights a cigarette. He's been in Angeles City for about a month, his last stop on a sex circuit from Bangkok to Manila after getting laid off from his electrician's job in Sydney.

In Thailand, he says, the girls didn't speak the language. Manila hookers were too streetwise, the bars too spread out.

But this is Easy Street. He can sit atop his bar stool and ogle hundreds of passing girls fresh from the countryside who perfect the tricks of their trade before moving on to The Show in Manila.

The Australian signals a street vendor and buys some knockoff Viagra. He says he prefers the girls working one street over, who cost only 500 pesos, or about $10, apiece.

"Anything goes here," he says, lighting another cigarette. He leans over to offer a bit of Fields Avenue inside information: "You can get a young girl here to do anything if you promise to marry her."

All along Fields Avenue, the come-on banners with their Web addresses advertise good pay (up to $10 a day) for hostess jobs. But applicants must speak Korean, Japanese or Chinese.

A balding man pulls up on his motorcycle, greeting several other men loudly in German. They already have their catch, and girls jump on the back as the cycles roar off.

At the Tourist Assistance Booth, Odysius Garche says the older customers are better behaved than the U.S. airmen were. "I just tell them: 'The girls are inside. Go make your own deal.' "

Nearby, a chubby American with glasses eats a hot dog. He says he's a bar manager, but offers no details.

He came to Angeles City from California, to follow up on a chat-room hookup. He ended up on Fields Avenue, drinking late with the dancers, hearing their stories.

"This is clean fun," he says. "There's no sex shows. These girls are not slaves. They have minds of their own."

Behind him, women call out from the doors of bars with names like the Doll House, Club Lancelot, Treasure Island, Club Cambodia, the Blue Nile and the Amsterdam.

Suddenly, a group of twentysomething men storms past, laughing and arm-punching. The news spreads and girls pop their heads out the doorways to catch a glimpse of boys their own age.

One calls after them with a deal she hopes they can't refuse:

"Free!" she says, laughing.

Betong
08-17-09, 21:12
Original articleMust have been a slow news day.

I always get a laugh out of this kind of story. They could just keep reprinting the same one every couple years -- in effect that's all they do. And it really says more about the prejudices and political correctness of the writer and his audience than it does about the place he's writing about.

XHooker
08-18-09, 03:09
Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.

Warbucks
08-18-09, 04:07
Must have been a slow news day.

I always get a laugh out of this kind of story. They could just keep reprinting the same one every couple years -- in effect that's all they do. And it really says more about the prejudices and political correctness of the writer and his audience than it does about the place he's writing about.

I read this article on another forum and the guys over there were up in arms about it. It seems to be a fairly accurate portrait of the place.

Rocksoff
08-18-09, 06:21
The pinays come from far worse circumstances than the spoiled Thai girls.

Wise words .. history lesson & advice :-) Thank u

X Man
08-18-09, 10:01
If you plan to live in AC, and you've already talked to the bar manager about it, I think it might be hard, complicated or even dangerous to find another solution...other than negotiate. If you don't plan to live in AC, just leave. As you noted, slavery (in the traditional sense) is not legal nor moral.

If I really liked a girl, and she was doing a good job of pretending to like me, I'd tell her to quit her job and go with me to (some place nicer than AC). She can make up some excuse. Where is her hometown? And what is your woman's advice?

I suspect some others will give you more technical / detailed info, but I would just take the girl out of AC. You don't tell us if that is possible or not. Good luck.

X




Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.

X Man
08-18-09, 10:09
I had a lady in davao say I look like Brad Pitt, and we all know he looks like a reptile.

"over quickly", how lame is that? WHat a poor work ethic! And was the article written before performance enhancing drugs hit the market?

X

Ten years ago, I had a Japanese girl say I look like Bruce Willis. If I was a reptile, I'd probably be a turtle.


I got a kick out of this quote in the article:

"She rolls her eyes at two overweight men who pass by looking like large reptiles dressed in children's clothing. Sure, the sex is disgusting, she says. But at least it's over quickly."

Which one of you guys fits this description? haha

Hesekiels
08-18-09, 12:09
... If I really liked a girl, and she was doing a good job of pretending to like me...



Great! Nicely and wisely said, X Man! :) But nevertheless I could well imagine that there are still some dreamers who seriously believe that the bargirls 'like/love them'!? Three weeks ago I met an Aussie who is going to marry his cuty from Dollhouse! It's crazy, but it's true!

IMHO of course!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Broko
08-18-09, 12:20
Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.My gf was a waitress in an AC bar and just left to her province without giving notice to the bar manager. So no money involved at all. I dont live with her (yet).

Betong
08-18-09, 12:56
It seems to be a fairly accurate portrait of the place.. . . tawdry streets . . . lonely old men . . . balding men with bulging bellies . . . the model's runway gone wrong called Fields Avenue . . . their almost adolescent bodies . . . row of run-down bars . . . single-minded realm of weary-looking loners . . . saggy-faced Australian . . .

Don't get me wrong. I love this stuff. But balanced journalism it ain't. The writer has an agenda and he milks it for all it's worth.

(And the guy is obviously paying way too much for his burger and fries if they're costing him as much as a girl here!)

Chocha Monger
08-18-09, 14:13
. . . tawdry streets . . . lonely old men . . . balding men with bulging bellies . . . the model's runway gone wrong called Fields Avenue . . . their almost adolescent bodies . . . row of run-down bars . . . single-minded realm of weary-looking loners . . . saggy-faced Australian . . .

Don't get me wrong. I love this stuff. But balanced journalism it ain't. The writer has an agenda and he milks it for all it's worth.

(And the guy is obviously paying way too much for his burger and fries if they're costing him as much as a girl here!)
Betong,
You're right. This is more creative writing than journalism. The guy packed this piece full of hyperbole. You can see that he is against mongers, especially older mongers, by taking one glance at the article. He closed the article giving the impression that the bargirls will screw young guys for free.

Chocha Monger
08-18-09, 14:26
Great! Nicely and wisely said, X Man! :) But nevertheless I could well imagine that there are still some dreamers who seriously believe that the bargirls 'like/love them'!? Three weeks ago I met an Aussie who is going to marry his cuty from Dollhouse! It's crazy, but it's true!

IMHO of course!

Cheers!


Hesekiels
There will always be some dimwits who don't realize that the bargirl market is 100% rentable.

Rocksoff
08-18-09, 14:39
The guy packed this piece full of hyperbole. You can see that he is against mongers

Nonsense. He is a monger! Enjoying his all-expenses-paid trip to Angeles for all his worth!

But he is also a *****! Writing whatever will sell and reinforce the prejudices of the paper's public, titilating them while giving them the moral high ground.

Amavida
08-18-09, 14:45
... He closed the article giving the impression that the bargirls will screw young guys for free.umm.. that has been my experience many times.. I dont expect it, but it happens.. :/

Im sure other punters regardless of age have found BG's morph into GF's quite quickly if it suits them. This phenomenon is not confined to PI.

AV

Chocha Monger
08-18-09, 15:21
Nonsense. He is a monger! Enjoying his all-expenses-paid trip to Angeles for all his worth!

But he is also a *****! Writing whatever will sell and reinforce the prejudices of the paper's public, titilating them while giving them the moral high ground.
Well, he certainly succeeded in doing that. It was an amusing article if nothing else. It paints quite a torrid picture of lonely old perverts and cripples searching for a root with young girls. The overweight reptilian mongers; the stripper rubbing her crack on the paraplegic's neck; the disgusting quickie sex; the squealing lady-boys; and the hamburger priced sex while exaggerated are probably closer to the truth than the fantasy some mongers paint of Angel City. It's a place where the fallen go in search of angels.

Ezinho
08-18-09, 15:23
Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.
I was in Angeles for about two months (June & July '09) and I had a similar arrangement with an 18 year old bar girl. My live-in told her mamasan she would come back to work after I left the Phils at the end of July. No money was exchanged between myself and the bar manager. Having to pay 20,000 pesos sounds like complete BS to me.

Not sure who you got advice from on the forum, but I actually think this setup can work well, as long as you don't fall in love or anything. Just be prepared to kick her ass out of your place if she starts to act up; that's what I ended up doing!

He closed the article giving the impression that the bargirls will screw young guys for free.
Look, the article was extremely biased I agree, but as a younger monger (late 20's) I can actually vouch that this is true. The girls will bang you for free in hopes that you will become their boyfriends. Essentially, they're giving you a free sample in hopes for a bigger payout later (gifts, sponsorship, even marriage). It's actually pretty smart if you ask me, especially considering most of these girls barely finished the 8th grade.

How to get the "free sample" you ask? If the girls like you, they will give you their number in the club, then text them to come to your place after. Or, check out Skytrax disco, a lot of the girls that work on Perimeter go there after work. Also, check out the Videoke bars on the street behind Fields, some bar girls go there after their shifts to get drunk and sing.

X Man
08-18-09, 15:37
I had an AC cherry girl texting me just a few days ago, offering to be my girlfriend. She actually showed up in Manila (family in QC) and wanted to spend the night with me. Things cooled down considerably when I told her that I was leaving the Philippines the next day. She mistakenly thought I lived in Manila.

As far as I can tell, she was offerring me the goods.

Surreal....X


I was in Angeles for about two months (June & July '09) and I had a similar arrangement with an 18 year old bar girl. My live-in told her mamasan she would come back to work after I left the Phils at the end of July. No money was exchanged between myself and the bar manager. Having to pay 20,000 pesos sounds like complete BS to me.

Not sure who you got advice from on the forum, but I actually think this setup can work well, as long as you don't fall in love or anything. Just be prepared to kick her ass out of your place if she statrs to act up; that's what I ended up doing!

Look, the article was extremely biased I agree, but as a younger monger (late 20's) I can actually vouch that this is true. The girls will bang you for free in hopes that you will become their boyfriends. Essentially, they're giving you a free sample in hopes for a bigger payout later (gifts, sponsorship, even marriage). It's actually pretty smart if you ask me, especially considering most of these girls barely finished the 8th grade.

Amavida
08-18-09, 16:06
I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.Mommies will tell naive BG's to tell mongers that they must cough up for a 'permanent BF'. This is complete BS.


Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.Yes you are right. Its nonsense. Tell your girl she is not a slave & you are not going to do this.

But stop & look at this from the Bars point of view for a moment. The mommies do this because many, MANY girls leave with a monger for a while & then come crawling back later to the bar with their tails between their legs after the big 'romance' blows over (usually after the mongers finances have been exhausted). The mommies are after loss of income whilst the girl is away because they fully expect she will be back. Its just business.

What's that you say? Your girl is different?
Oh, well, in that case..

AV

Sammon
08-18-09, 16:29
Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.

There is no unwritten or written rules. The girls are free to work in any bar. work in one one day move to next one. Don't you see all the ads saying they want dancers, waitresses, mamasans. Generally the bars always want new faces. It is good for business.
So called permanent barfine is cooked up by the mamasans who recruit girls.
I am sure many a mongers have fallen into this scam. I was friends with the manager of Agasya. Whenever a girl came in dressed in street clothes I would ask her who she is. She would reply either back from barfine or permanent barfine. My curiousity aroused i asked her about permanent barfine. she told me it is a scam for the mamasan and the girl to make extra money and the bar gets some money also. So technically she is still a employee but does not get paid except by drinks and barfine. Ofcourse when her " Boyfriend " is not in town she will play.
I do not understand the psychology of mongers. If you make a bargirl your GF please take her away from AC. Give her education and in the provinces hope she will behave and not go with anybody. I have done that for a few years but cannot vouch for what she did behind my back but I do not care.
I am not commenting on your desire to make a BG your girlfriend. I am sure many have done that but do not admit. Just want you to be aware of the scams.
As always if you are not going to be hurt and can afford to pay and put up with these things go ahead.

White Whale
08-18-09, 16:37
I have been exchanging emails with Eruption bar girl. She is writing the bar is behind with salary payments three weeks and girls are getting annoyed. According to her the management is using all the money to have a live band.

Have you heard this from other sources? She has not (yet) been asking money from me.

XHooker
08-18-09, 17:42
If you plan to live in AC, and you've already talked to the bar manager about it, I think it might be hard, complicated or even dangerous to find another solution...other than negotiate. If you don't plan to live in AC, just leave. As you noted, slavery (in the traditional sense) is not legal nor moral.

If I really liked a girl, and she was doing a good job of pretending to like me, I'd tell her to quit her job and go with me to (some place nicer than AC). She can make up some excuse. Where is her hometown? And what is your woman's advice?

I suspect some others will give you more technical / detailed info, but I would just take the girl out of AC. You don't tell us if that is possible or not. Good luck.

XThanks for the advise - I plan to take the girl to Pattaya great so she can just quit and we will jump on the plane nothing said.

Why should she not like me as I'm better looking and treat her better than half of her punters and will pay her 30,000 pcm should get a good job of pretending for that which is about half the going rate in Thailand.

FreebieFan
08-19-09, 04:17
Thanks for the info guys. I'll move locations several times during my January trip and will go thru about six sim cards. This prevents the girls I had previously met in other locations from texting me to death while I'm trying to secure some new ass in a new area.

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Mandon't you hate the endless meaningless and in most cases babyish texts. Unless of course its you who is on the hunt. And then its part of the game. LOL

White Whale
08-19-09, 07:09
Oh, but she will be asking you very soon for a loan until she gets paid from the bar. Brace yourself.

You are so cynical ;) I have no intention to send or "borrow" money. It is interesting to see what will happen...

Docwiltro
08-19-09, 10:25
I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.

Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.It is obviously true that the girl can leave the bar whenever she wants; however, please remember that these girls for the most part are unsophisticated and will believe what the mamasan tells them.

It is my experience that the girls will develop a loyalty to the bar and the mamasan that will eventually erode over time, but in the beginning, she will do what the bar wants and will be unconvinced to the punters point of view.

So, unless your bargirl has been around some or is on the independent side, be ready to cough up the permanent barfine. Considering the dynamics of the situation, there is no other way around it.

Yella Man
08-20-09, 22:39
don't you hate the endless meaningless and in most cases babyish texts. Unless of course its you who is on the hunt. And then its part of the game. LOL

What? Like..."have u had lunch yet?" "I miss u!" "Where are u?" "What are u doing?" "I have some problem." "I'm going home now." "I'm at Jollie Bee's." "I'm just finish work." "I'm drunk now." "Are u busy now?" "Are u sleeping now?" "Where's your GF?" "I'm in province now." "I have no load." "I have no trike money." "U remember me?"...and on and on and on! But you have to play the game if you wanna get the dame!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Yella Man
08-20-09, 23:35
Must have been a slow news day.

I always get a laugh out of this kind of story. They could just keep reprinting the same one every couple years -- in effect that's all they do. And it really says more about the prejudices and political correctness of the writer and his audience than it does about the place he's writing about.

Yes, but priviledged, sexually repressed, mormon minded people will use this article as a reason to "Rescue" alleged poor, innocent, and abused Filipina prostitutes even when their own host countries don't give a damn about them one way or the other. It's just sex people! And all humans crave sex...are genetically programed to procreate and pursue that activity, albeit, some more than others, so give it up already because prostitution will never go away!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

X Man
08-21-09, 09:36
Maybe it was too obvious, but you didn't mention "hi". Or even worse the YM offline message -- a smiley face.

Of course some resort to full sentences, "How's your searching?". My reply, "I'm not searching for anything." usually doesn't go over well.

Another anamoly...asking, "what do you do for fun?" seems to cause trouble. I guess fun = sex in Philippines. Amending that to "what do you do for fun and relaxation", sometimes get's the response, "no,


What? Like..."have u had lunch yet?" "I miss u!" "Where are u?" "What are u doing?" "I have some problem." "I'm going home now." "I'm at Jollie Bee's." "I'm just finish work." "I'm drunk now." "Are u busy now?" "Are u sleeping now?" "Where's your GF?" "I'm in province now." "I have no load." "I have no trike money." "U remember me?"...and on and on and on! But you have to play the game if you wanna get the dame!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Acfreddie
08-22-09, 15:15
its a shocking story for sure, but i put my reputation behind this posting.

here is what happened:

i was sitting in lia (lost in asia bar) with (my gf), she was going to run to get something for me, so i gave her some money, well i screwed up and accidentally gave her a $100 bill mixed in with the peso notes for her. she went back to the hotel to get something before heading out to the place i sent her, while there, she stopped at the ladies cr downstairs (apparently had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) really bad), while there, she accidentally dropped the $100 bill in the stall (she did not know she even had it). later on (about 3 hours) while at the hotel room i noticed that i am missing the $100 bill. my gf retraces her steps (just in case she did have the bill and did not know it) and while heading downstairs to the cr in the hotel, the cleaning person comes up to her and tells her that they have been looking for her for a few hours because they think she may have lost something. they ask her what she was looking for, she tells them a $100 bill. they cleaning person hands her the bill! she thanks them for returning it and txt's me. i have her bring the person up to our room so i can thank them in person and also to give them a financial token of my appreciation for being so honest (they deserved it and for sure i will informing the lewis grand management of they honest employees effort).

i was and still am amazed at the honesty of this person, they could have easily pocketed the money and struck gold, but instead they returned the money. all that i can say is thanks to that person and thanks to the lewis grand hotel.

X Man
08-22-09, 15:27
+++ great story and i applaude you for giving rewards for good behavior.

---- huh? how did a franklin know how to find you?

x



its a shocking story for sure, but i put my reputation behind this posting.

here is what happened:

i was sitting in lia (lost in asia bar) with (my gf), she was going to run to get something for me, so i gave her some money, well i screwed up and accidentally gave her a $100 bill mixed in with the peso notes for her. she went back to the hotel to get something before heading out to the place i sent her, while there, she stopped at the ladies cr downstairs (apparently had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) really bad), while there, she accidentally dropped the $100 bill in the stall (she did not know she even had it). later on (about 3 hours) while at the hotel room i noticed that i am missing the $100 bill. my gf retraces her steps (just in case she did have the bill and did not know it) and while heading downstairs to the cr in the hotel, the cleaning person comes up to her and tells her that they have been looking for her for a few hours because they think she may have lost something. they ask her what she was looking for, she tells them a $100 bill. they cleaning person hands her the bill! she thanks them for returning it and txt's me. i have her bring the person up to our room so i can thank them in person and also to give them a financial token of my appreciation for being so honest (they deserved it and for sure i will informing the lewis grand management of they honest employees effort).

i was and still am amazed at the honesty of this person, they could have easily pocketed the money and struck gold, but instead they returned the money. all that i can say is thanks to that person and thanks to the lewis grand hotel.

Hesekiels
08-22-09, 19:44
Its a shocking story for sure, but I put my reputation behind this posting.

Here is what happened:

I was sitting in ... I was and still am amazed at the honesty of this person, they could have easily pocketed the money and struck gold, but instead they returned the money... Truly amazing, but pigs might fly if you are that lucky twice!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Acfreddie
08-23-09, 00:49
+++ great story and I applaude you for giving rewards for good behavior.

---- Huh? How did a Franklin know how to find you?

XThe cleaning/janitorial staff apparently remembered my gf as someome who they saw in that area (side note that the janitorial staff are always cleaning the hotel everywhere), so if the person cleans the CR every 30 minutes or so and only saw one girl use that CR, they made a link that it was likely her that lost the money and made the effort to locate her after the money was discovered.

Columpuss
08-23-09, 02:30
Does anyone know of a decent short time hotel along Fields or adjacent?

I usually hate the long ride home and the walk of shame through the lobby where many of the front desk girls are my friends. I am very spontaneous when I spot the right one in the bar and all that routines above just ruin the moment.

I've been reading this forum for many years and don't recall someone posting about such a subject. Appreciate any comments.

Avivador
08-23-09, 06:48
Look here:

http://www.hotelsangeles.com/

Where it says:

"Budget Hotels" there are hotels for 2 or 3 hours for 500 pesos or less.

Sorry my English because I use google translator.

Avivador
08-23-09, 07:42
Here, there are hotels for 3 hours for 180 pesos.

Warbucks
08-23-09, 09:18
its a shocking story for sure, but i put my reputation behind this posting.

here is what happened:

i was sitting in lia (lost in asia bar) with (my gf), she was going to run to get something for me, so i gave her some money, well i screwed up and accidentally gave her a $100 bill mixed in with the peso notes for her. she went back to the hotel to get something before heading out to the place i sent her, while there, she stopped at the ladies cr downstairs (apparently had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) really bad), while there, she accidentally dropped the $100 bill in the stall (she did not know she even had it). later on (about 3 hours) while at the hotel room i noticed that i am missing the $100 bill. my gf retraces her steps (just in case she did have the bill and did not know it) and while heading downstairs to the cr in the hotel, the cleaning person comes up to her and tells her that they have been looking for her for a few hours because they think she may have lost something. they ask her what she was looking for, she tells them a $100 bill. they cleaning person hands her the bill! she thanks them for returning it and txt's me. i have her bring the person up to our room so i can thank them in person and also to give them a financial token of my appreciation for being so honest (they deserved it and for sure i will informing the lewis grand management of they honest employees effort).

i was and still am amazed at the honesty of this person, they could have easily pocketed the money and struck gold, but instead they returned the money. all that i can say is thanks to that person and thanks to the lewis grand hotel.

nice story ac i dropped on the ground (out of my pocket) 25000php at boracay last year and it was returned to me by a filipina who came running to me in her flip flops. still brings a smile to my face when i think about it.

Sol111
08-23-09, 20:56
On my first trip to AC, my first night there, I bf a girl from Honey Pot. Rosie. Seemed sweet, 26. I had only been in town a few hours. When we left HP she put her hand in mine, and gave me a nice walking tour of AC. She didn't ask to stop for a drink or see a friend. It was 10pm. After our stroll we headed to the room, showered, and she was a happy loving girl. Having RTTF, I was convinced she would leave early, by midnight, and hop back to her bar hoping for another bf. Nope. We cuddled up and slept. Again, I figured she would hop up at 6am-ish and want to go home. Nope. She didn't wake up until about 9, then was fine with another pop. After a shower and expecting her to ask for a tip and split... she wanted to go to breakfast. Sure, sweet-thing-hottie-half-my-age, where at? The mall.

We triked over there and had breakfast at some place that looks mexi/spanish, the word 'burrito' or such painted on the wall. Long/skinny place as you walk in heading to the back. We eat, and I pay the bill at the register with my visa cc. We split from there, her hand stuck like glue to mine. The window-shopping dance occurs for about 30 minutes, bottom floor, then top. She asked for nothing. I kept waiting for the money-shoe to drop, YOU BUY ME THESE SHOES FOR P3000? Or such. Nope. As she was looking at some eyeliner, I bought it for her (p120) to be nice.

When I was sticking the change from the register back in my wallet, I noticed my visa was missing. I freaked a bit, showed Rosie. She said its at the restraunt, and we headed back into the hallway to get it. Now its getting crowded, about noon-ish, and as we get into the hallway she says YOU WAIT HERE! And she dashes off down the hall as fast as a 5-foot pinay can run in flip-flops. Two thoughts hit: a) she's running back to the restraunt to get it; and b) she's got the card in her purse somehow and she's splitting. Think A. As she gets down the hall almost to the restraunt, me hustling behind (thinking B), a waitress comes out of the restraunt into the hallway, looking in both directions, something in her hand. The two girls spot each other, speak for a moment before I get there, and the waitress hands Rosie my credit card and reciept. I felt like an idiot, both for losing the card and also for thinking the Rosie was stealing it. I offered the waitress p100 as tip and she smiled and walked back into the restraunt without it.

It gets worse. After that we walk back to Swiss Chalet to my room, Rosie's hand still glued to mine. Back in the room at 1pm abouts, I strip for a nap, she strips and lays down with me and asks boom-boom? I declined and said salamat, went to sleep, to awaken with her still there, snuggled up, 3pm-ish. Finally she said she had to go get ready for work and said goodbye. She asked if I was coming by the HP again and I said yes, that I planned to bf her again. What a mistake; all that other eye-candy got my attention.

I called my bank to see if the cc had any unauthorized hits, it did not. I checked it daily online after that. Nothing. Just my charges. The girl was great, the folks at the restraunt were great. What a nice first-memory of AC. I never saw the girl again. I went back to the HP this past July to see her, but they said she had gone back to the province.

T Roy
08-24-09, 01:19
The cleaning/janitorial staff apparently remembered my gf as someome who they saw in that area (side note that the janitorial staff are always cleaning the hotel everywhere), so if the person cleans the CR every 30 minutes or so and only saw one girl use that CR, they made a link that it was likely her that lost the money and made the effort to locate her after the money was discovered.LGH has always been good to me and I dont need to gather my things when I leave to let the cleaning staff in. Good to see you made out OK on this onw ACF

X Man
08-24-09, 01:28
Great story Sol,

Whenever I get a good one I get her phone and email. If you think you got good service that first time, I can almost guarantee it would be even better if you kept in touch and met her on a subsequent visit.

X



On my first trip to AC, my first night there, I bf a girl from Honey Pot. Rosie. Seemed sweet, 26. I had only been in town a few hours. When we left HP she put her hand in mine, and gave me a nice walking tour of AC. She didn't ask to stop for a drink or see a friend. It was 10pm. After our stroll we headed to the room, showered, and she was a happy loving girl. Having RTTF, I was convinced she would leave early, by midnight, and hop back to her bar hoping for another bf. Nope. We cuddled up and slept. Again, I figured she would hop up at 6am-ish and want to go home. Nope. She didn't wake up until about 9, then was fine with another pop. After a shower and expecting her to ask for a tip and split... she wanted to go to breakfast. Sure, sweet-thing-hottie-half-my-age, where at? The mall.

We triked over there and had breakfast at some place that looks mexi/spanish, the word 'burrito' or such painted on the wall. Long/skinny place as you walk in heading to the back. We eat, and I pay the bill at the register with my visa cc. We split from there, her hand stuck like glue to mine. The window-shopping dance occurs for about 30 minutes, bottom floor, then top. She asked for nothing. I kept waiting for the money-shoe to drop, YOU BUY ME THESE SHOES FOR P3000? Or such. Nope. As she was looking at some eyeliner, I bought it for her (p120) to be nice.

When I was sticking the change from the register back in my wallet, I noticed my visa was missing. I freaked a bit, showed Rosie. She said its at the restraunt, and we headed back into the hallway to get it. Now its getting crowded, about noon-ish, and as we get into the hallway she says YOU WAIT HERE! And she dashes off down the hall as fast as a 5-foot pinay can run in flip-flops. Two thoughts hit: a) she's running back to the restraunt to get it; and b) she's got the card in her purse somehow and she's splitting. Think A. As she gets down the hall almost to the restraunt, me hustling behind (thinking B), a waitress comes out of the restraunt into the hallway, looking in both directions, something in her hand. The two girls spot each other, speak for a moment before I get there, and the waitress hands Rosie my credit card and reciept. I felt like an idiot, both for losing the card and also for thinking the Rosie was stealing it. I offered the waitress p100 as tip and she smiled and walked back into the restraunt without it.

It gets worse. After that we walk back to Swiss Chalet to my room, Rosie's hand still glued to mine. Back in the room at 1pm abouts, I strip for a nap, she strips and lays down with me and asks boom-boom? I declined and said salamat, went to sleep, to awaken with her still there, snuggled up, 3pm-ish. Finally she said she had to go get ready for work and said goodbye. She asked if I was coming by the HP again and I said yes, that I planned to bf her again. What a mistake; all that other eye-candy got my attention.

I called my bank to see if the cc had any unauthorized hits, it did not. I checked it daily online after that. Nothing. Just my charges. The girl was great, the folks at the restraunt were great. What a nice first-memory of AC. I never saw the girl again. I went back to the HP this past July to see her, but they said she had gone back to the province.

Darkman
08-24-09, 02:22
How far is AC from the Manila airport and what is the best way to get there?

Thanks in advance

Eaglestar
08-24-09, 15:21
How far is AC from the Manila airport and what is the best way to get there?

Thanks in advance

There is no airport in AC and it is about a 36 hour drive by taxi. Best way to get there is when you arrive at Manila airport, just ask the first person you see for a taxi. They will get you a good, cheap air conditioned taxi with an English speaking driver. Should not cost more than $5.00 or $6.00


RTFF Darkman


ES

Acfreddie
08-24-09, 15:30
How far is AC from the Manila airport and what is the best way to get there?

Thanks in advance

Easiest way is to have the hotel you are staying at pick you up (but this will likely set you back about P3,000 or so for a car and P3400 for a van), you could also choose to have one of the other car services that are reputable (such as margarita station, or beeline travel) they are a bit cheaper with prices ranging around P2,500 for a car to P2800 for a van. The next choice is taking a metered taxi to the bus depot, but i cannot comment om how to do that, because i have never dome it before (safety reasons, buses re robbed here all the time and also because i travel with a tom of baggage as I reside here, so when i return, i am bringing a lot of stuff with me).

Lately the late night arriving flights have been taking me about 1 1/2 hours to get from manila to ac, during the daytime you cam usually add a 1/2 hr to over am hour to that time.

Freetime
08-24-09, 18:51
How far is AC from the Manila airport and what is the best way to get there?

Thanks in advanceMost hotels in AC will have taxi service for a free. Check on line with the holels. There are also other taxi services the station has one as do other places. The only time I had to use an airport taxi was when my driver did nor show. Depending on the time of day or night you get in the ride is 2-4 hours. Most fights get in late and it is a quick two hours most nights. The $5-$6 dollar rate quoted is way off. Was about 1800P last time I was in AC, sure it has gone up too. Again check the hotel rate even if you use an airport taxi so you know what to offer them, don't let them give you a price.

Hesekiels
08-24-09, 21:09
There is no airport in AC and it is about a 36 hour drive by taxi. Best way to get there is when you arrive at Manila airport, just ask the first person you see for a taxi. They will get you a good, cheap air conditioned taxi with an English speaking driver. Should not cost more than $5.00 or $6.00


RTFF Darkman


ES


36 hours by car from Manila International Airport to AC? And the taxi ride should cost 5 to 6 USD??? Sorry man, but you are grossly mistaken!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Svhsvh
08-24-09, 22:12
36 hours by car from Manila International Airport to AC? And the taxi ride should cost 5 to 6 USD??? Sorry man, but you are grossly mistaken!

Cheers!

HesekielsEaglestar was just having some fun while asking the poster to read the forum rather than ask a question that has been answered many times over. People with that many posts know what they're talking about, so I'm sure he isn't serious with that answer.

I'm actually coming into Manila on Sept. 22nd, and have arranged a ride via my hotel with one of their drivers as ACFreddie mentioned. First time there, and this method seemed to be one of the safest, and hopefully most reliable. Cost is approximately 3000php, but I'll pay a premium for convenience and safety.

Good luck Darkman

Fast Eddie 48
08-24-09, 23:34
There is no airport in AC and it is about a 36 hour drive by taxi. Best way to get there is when you arrive at Manila airport, just ask the first person you see for a taxi. They will get you a good, cheap air conditioned taxi with an English speaking driver. Should not cost more than $5.00 or $6.00

RTFF Darkman

ESES,

I think you been in China for too damn long ,Clark air base is now a International airport ,there are direct flight from macau and HK daily,5-6 usd from manila to AC by taxi no way maybe 20 yr ago ,I think even the Fil rabbit bus is now 4 USD.

Fast eddie 48

Sky Ryder
08-24-09, 23:52
36 hours by car from Manila International Airport to AC? And the taxi ride should cost 5 to 6 USD??? Sorry man, but you are grossly mistaken!

Cheers!


Hesekiels


Not 100% sure, but I suspect the Eagle Star comment was done with the sarcasm meter set at "full stun" and tongue firmly planted in one's cheek.
The problem is that not every one of us comes from the same linguistic background so we don't always pick up on the nuances of word use....
I could be wrong, as it is frequently the case.....

T Roy
08-25-09, 01:01
There is no airport in AC and it is about a 36 hour drive by taxi. Best way to get there is when you arrive at Manila airport, just ask the first person you see for a taxi. They will get you a good, cheap air conditioned taxi with an English speaking driver. Should not cost more than $5.00 or $6.00

RTFF Darkman

ESThere is a airport in AC. Called Clark (CRK). Get an updated map! If you land in MNL, the ride is about 1.5 hours to AC.

Dont try to negotiate the taksi's unless you are 50Cent or Mike Tyson. your life may depend on it. There is lots of places they cols stop and beat the living snott out of you, take all your goodies and leave you for dead.

Get a legit transport such as Pacific Breeze. They will be there and only charge P2500.

Thaxfacta
08-25-09, 01:23
There is no airport in AC and it is about a 36 hour drive by taxi. Best way to get there is when you arrive at Manila airport, just ask the first person you see for a taxi. They will get you a good, cheap air conditioned taxi with an English speaking driver. Should not cost more than $5.00 or $6.00Angeles City has an airport! And it serves the Asain corridor, and even the UAE. You should know that Eaglestar.

Wanna get Away?

www.airgorilla.com/airports/asia/philippines/angeles-crk.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diosdado_Macapagal_International_Airport

Frank4220
08-25-09, 04:27
I have been exchanging emails with Eruption bar girl. She is writing the bar is behind with salary payments three weeks and girls are getting annoyed. According to her the management is using all the money to have a live band.

Have you heard this from other sources? She has not (yet) been asking money from me.

Have not heard that regarding Eruptions directly, but it would not surprise me at all judging from the lack of customers in a lot of the bars.

Frank4220
08-25-09, 04:32
i was reading that report in the august issue of harry the horse regarding christy from emotions.
i hear through the grapevine that the bar had engaged a lawyer to address these accusations.
never been with her myself but i have always found her nice and i know others who have been with her without any problems.
does anyone have anything to add?

Eaglestar
08-25-09, 06:24
Not 100% sure, but I suspect the Eagle Star comment was done with the sarcasm meter set at "full stun" and tongue firmly planted in one's cheek.

Absolutely Sky,,,,, Jeezzzzz.

That question, "How do I get from Manila to AC," has been asked and answered at least 101 times on this thread.

For the rest of you, I lived in Manila 7 years and am fully aware of how to drive or fly to AC. Don't get your panties in a wad guys, this was all in fun.

The questioner, with 2 posts, is just too lazy to RTFF so I decided to jab him a little bit.

Sorry for my (extremely) dry American wit.



ES

Robbaf
08-25-09, 06:44
Have not heard that regarding Eruptions directly, but it would not surprise me at all judging from the lack of customers in a lot of the bars.
Thanks for the update, but I have heard this so many times this year and every trip (6 times for 40 days) I found just the opposite. I will be there in four days and I hope this is correct!

Victorian
08-25-09, 11:50
Club Asia is a new bar that's being built now (maybe finished next month), located near Vortex and Walkabout Hotel.

I was told it's in the same group as Atlantis, Dollhouse, Tropix, Crystal Palace and Pony Tail.

A "girlfriend" of mine who works in one of those bars has told me a couple of times that Club Asia is going to be for Asians only, not Americans etc.

That's, of course, is hard to believe, and I hope it's not true, but at the very least that's what the some of the girls believe. Bit like the rumours around Agasaya; may not be true, but certainly worth keeping an eye on. And it would be good to hear from anyone who visits it when it's open.

Enjoy

Amavida
08-26-09, 05:08
Club Asia is a new bar that's being built now..

A "girlfriend" of mine who works in one of those bars has told me a couple of times that Club Asia is going to be for Asians only, not Americans etc.

That's, of course, is hard to believe, and I hope it's not trueI should'nt be too concerned. There is a massive supply of girls in AC. If one bar wants to try to cater to the big spenders good luck to them. This is only sustainable during the Asian holiday season. Outside of that time its back to fighting for every mongers dollar as usual.
There are places in Manila that cater to the big spending Japanese & Koreans. These places have some extremely primo looking eye candy but its all geared to getting groups of asians too drunk to fuck & extorting as much as possible for as little as possible from them.
If you're a westerner wanting to bang Miss universe look alikes in AC or Manila you may be a little disappointed that they are reserved for the Asian market but there's still plenty of nice pussy around.

AV

Betong
08-26-09, 05:43
A "girlfriend" of mine who works in one of those bars has told me a couple of times that Club Asia is going to be for Asians only, not Americans etc.If they're so insecure as to keep us out, that's fine with me. I've never found a Korean or Japanese-owned place that I've liked anyway.

ManonsanBoy
08-26-09, 18:21
Don't buy anything for the Thai girls. They will take you "sopping" at Lotus and then take the stuff right back to buy their boyfriend a watch.
The pinays come from far worse circumstances than the spoiled Thai girls. Their country has been ravaged by Spaniards, Americans, Japanese, and now the Chinese merchant class.


The main reason you can enjoy places like Angeles city is the land system in Philippines. Basically, 7 families own most of the Philippines. As usual..............all show, not action in their culture.............very sad

Yella Man
08-27-09, 03:26
I should'nt be too concerned. There is a massive supply of girls in AC. If one bar wants to try to cater to the big spenders good luck to them. This is only sustainable during the Asian holiday season. Outside of that time its back to fighting for every mongers dollar as usual.
There are places in Manila that cater to the big spending Japanese & Koreans. These places have some extremely primo looking eye candy but its all geared to getting groups of asians too drunk to fuck & extorting as much as possible for as little as possible from them.
If you're a westerner wanting to bang Miss universe look alikes in AC or Manila you may be a little disappointed that they are reserved for the Asian market but there's still plenty of nice pussy around.

AV


Very true AV! Also, the clubs can't control what the girls do on their days off. It's just a matter of finding out where the like to hangout after hours.

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Slipperydee
08-27-09, 04:19
If they're so insecure as to keep us out, that's fine with me. I've never found a Korean or Japanese-owned place that I've liked anyway.That is no surprise since most Asians do more BF at this time around. Maybe it's it is also b'coz of local currencies vs dollar is stronger?

ManonsanBoy
08-27-09, 05:25
Against all advise in this Forum I plan to live with my go-go dancer gf.

I'm told by the Bar manager that i should pay 20,000 pesos to release the girl.
Sounds like slavery to me as I did not think the bar owns the girl she should be free to go like if she left to work in the bar down the road.

Please can anyone explain the unwritten rules.


Stop in the name of common sense. It is a scam.

ManonsanBoy
08-27-09, 09:46
I am planning a trip to this city. Fly in direct from Hong Kong. Arrive 11 am. Booked Lewis Grande.

2 pm: bar hop to get release: 1 shot; Sleep

7 pm: bar hop to look see : get a LT
Dinner; second shot; Sleep

Day 2: third shot

Golf

5 pm: fourth shot with second barfine

Casino

fifth shot

Day 3: sixth shot

Back to HK

William Saw
08-27-09, 10:47
Stop in the name of common sense. It is a scam. 100% plus another 100% later she will dump you, I gurantee you.

William Saw
08-27-09, 10:58
Asians (especially the Japanese and Koreans, sometimes the Chinese from China those who can't speak english) are the one who will pay anything for a young pussy and get con. Well if are a Chinese with english as your first language like most singaporean we will all hang around just like you guys drink look around take time pay a resonable price make sure you get a good BJ.

ThatGuy865
08-28-09, 02:59
I can't believe you guys listen to what some "Bar" girl has stated of a "Asian" only bar and you guys run with it, like Moses just came down from the mountain top.

How would the Hoe know, The bar hasn't even opened yet so she doesn't work there. You guys really believe owners discuss their business plans with the bar hoes.

Sunnyvale69
08-28-09, 04:24
Hi ,

This is my first report on this forum. Also, this is my first ever trip to PI. So, I just wanted to give my Angeles City (AC) trip report (TR) as I have some time to write my memories.

--- I am Asian and live/work in USA.

--- During my home visit, I took 7 days break and visited AC.

--- Booked my flight Tiger Airways from SIN to CRK Aug 9th, 2009. As many of you know, I too had faced credit card issues while booking the ticket on the internet. I then called to Singapore office and booked over phone. Their system already has my internet booking details. I just gave them my credit card details.

Aug 9th:

--- I stayed in Pacific Breeze ( PB ) hotel (Executive: $57 for one week). This hotel is pretty good but expensive as compared to similar hotels in AC. But, I had just followed advice from some of senior memers on this forum.

--- PB hotel sent me car.

--- I changed $100 in Clark Airport.

--- My first pinay girl was from Touch of Class. (Sorry, I am week in remebering names of the persons). I was in no mood to boom boom so, I had BF'ed a cherry girl. Had good time with her. I sent har back on Aug 10th after giving her $10 as tip.

Aug 10th:

--- Met a girl from Manila. She was not a bar girl and has been referred by one of my best friend. Paid her $100. Too much I know but I wanted to pay her as she cam all the way from Manila specially to meet me. Sent her in the evening.

--- Bar hopped few bars including Atlanta, DH, Crystal palace etc etc. I did not BF any girl

Aug 11th:

--- BF'ed a girl from Body Touch and she was having some allergy and I sent her after few hours. i don't want to spent time with the girls who are not really feeling well. I did not complain to Mamasan though...

--- bar hopped few more bars in Perimiter but did not bar file any one

Aug 12th:

--- I bar fined a girl from Voodoo in the afternoon. She was good but stayed till 8 PM only. I promised her that would BF her again. I did but we went for bar hopping only...

--- I barfined another girl from Crystal Palace. Not good but OK service and attitude...

Aug 13th, 14th, 15th:

--- This is the day, I can't forgot in my life. I found a girl who really likes me more than my money. She is from Edelweiss. She really likes me and gave a true GFE experience I ever had in my life. I BF'ed for 3 continuous days. She stayed with day and night for 3 days.

Aug 16th:

Took Philippina airlines to MNL - SIN...($200). My mistake, I should have booked in Cebu airlies for $70 or so. Anyway, I don't want to miss my flight (I have heard that budget flights like Cebu, tiger may sometimes cacel the flights)..so, I paied $200 and booked in Philippina Airlines.

Other minor notes:

--- Most of the time, I ate food at the restaurant attached to PB hotel.

--- Please be aware that some times, girls order double drinks. Ask the price before they order. Luckily, one girl did such thing to me. Most of the girls ordered Mango Juice.

--- I usually do not drink liquor. I thought it was a shame...but it was not...we can order anything. I ordered mineral water all the time.

--- There are lot of Money changers across the AC. the barbar shop near to Voodoo bar gave me more exchange rate during my time.

--- Paid 50P for the trike all the time.

--- Paid 2500+800 P for my car trip to Manila. My BF sent me off ..so, I had to pay additional 800P for her to come back. The car was arranged by PB hotel.

--- Total damage including travel, hotel food, bf etc etc: $900 for 7 days.

--- Eventhough Aug is a rainy season in AC, I did not see heavy rains except few light showers.

--- I did not know that I had to pay 750P exit tax at Manila airport.

One big thing I noticed was that after 4 to 5 days of fun, I really had frustration about girls, bars etc...At that time, I realized that having 1 week trip is just fine rather than having 2 weeks or 1 month long trip. So, I would advise for those mongers who go on long vacation...think again..but it's your personal opinion... Eventhough it cost more (travel charges), according to my own experience having small duration multiple trips are memorable rather than having one long trip. Especailly, I don't link any other activities except P4P action.

If any of you have any questions, please do ask before my brain drains off those fond memories.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Yella Man
08-28-09, 08:03
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]I am planning a trip to this city. Fly in direct from Hong Kong. Arrive 11 am. Booked Lewis Grande.

2 pm: bar hop to get release: 1 shot; Sleep

7 pm: bar hop to look see : get a LT
Dinner; second shot; Sleep

Day 2: third shot

Golf

5 pm: fourth shot with second barfine

Casino

fifth shot

Day 3: sixth shot

Back to HK[/QUOTE

You should start your day/evening/morning by taking a trip to Blow Row to get a good BJ. That way you can get a quick release to help sustain you while you make an informed decision about the piece of ass you want to spend the night with. The name Black Pearl comes to mind. Real cheesy place, but the girls have great attitudes and are very trainable.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

Juant Pussy
08-28-09, 16:40
[/QUOTE

You should start your day/evening/morning by taking a trip to Blow Row to get a good BJ. ...
Always on the Quest

Yella Man[/QUOTE]

new bar on blow row according to ac website. underground bar. jimmy regina.

Slipperydee
08-29-09, 02:54
Asians (especially the Japanese and Koreans, sometimes the Chinese from China those who can't speak english) are the one who will pay anything for a young pussy and get con. Well if are a Chinese with english as your first language like most singaporean we will all hang around just like you guys drink look around take time pay a resonable price make sure you get a good BJ.Everyday its a great way to kick-off with a great BJ, Black Pearl on Blow Row always provided the vacuum expertise I craved for my morning hard-on. Once I even nearly 'virginized' one cutie there with some c*ck poking.

Kosovar
08-29-09, 12:47
Hi,

I would like to organise a little private session with some fellow mongers. The idea would be for 4-5 guys to get together and each barfine one girl of each persons liking. Plus a girl for the group. We each do what we do with our own girl but all finish in the face of the common girl. Her job would be to be the cum deposit. We could possibly tie her to the bed or similar to add some spice.

Anyone interested?

X Man
08-29-09, 14:09
Thanks for the interesting post.

Cherry girl was probably Aya from QC. When you get your senior status, send me your email and I'll send you some g-rated pics. She seems to want a boyfriend badly.

Yep, 100 bucks was very generous. I'm sure that included a model fee....any pictures you can share?

Thanks again for sharing info.

X


Hi ,

This is my first report on this forum. Also, this is my first ever trip to PI. So, I just wanted to give my Angeles City (AC) trip report (TR) as I have some time to write my memories.

--- I am Asian and live/work in USA.

--- During my home visit, I took 7 days break and visited AC.

--- Booked my flight Tiger Airways from SIN to CRK Aug 9th, 2009. As many of you know, I too had faced credit card issues while booking the ticket on the internet. I then called to Singapore office and booked over phone. Their system already has my internet booking details. I just gave them my credit card details.

Aug 9th:

--- I stayed in Pacific Breeze ( PB ) hotel (Executive: $57 for one week). This hotel is pretty good but expensive as compared to similar hotels in AC. But, I had just followed advice from some of senior memers on this forum.

--- PB hotel sent me car.

--- I changed $100 in Clark Airport.

--- My first pinay girl was from Touch of Class. (Sorry, I am week in remebering names of the persons). I was in no mood to boom boom so, I had BF'ed a cherry girl. Had good time with her. I sent har back on Aug 10th after giving her $10 as tip.

Aug 10th:

--- Met a girl from Manila. She was not a bar girl and has been referred by one of my best friend. Paid her $100. Too much I know but I wanted to pay her as she cam all the way from Manila specially to meet me. Sent her in the evening.

--- Bar hopped few bars including Atlanta, DH, Crystal palace etc etc. I did not BF any girl

Aug 11th:

--- BF'ed a girl from Body Touch and she was having some allergy and I sent her after few hours. i don't want to spent time with the girls who are not really feeling well. I did not complain to Mamasan though...

--- bar hopped few more bars in Perimiter but did not bar file any one

Aug 12th:

--- I bar fined a girl from Voodoo in the afternoon. She was good but stayed till 8 PM only. I promised her that would BF her again. I did but we went for bar hopping only...

--- I barfined another girl from Crystal Palace. Not good but OK service and attitude...

Aug 13th, 14th, 15th:

--- This is the day, I can't forgot in my life. I found a girl who really likes me more than my money. She is from Edelweiss. She really likes me and gave a true GFE experience I ever had in my life. I BF'ed for 3 continuous days. She stayed with day and night for 3 days.

Aug 16th:

Took Philippina airlines to MNL - SIN...($200). My mistake, I should have booked in Cebu airlies for $70 or so. Anyway, I don't want to miss my flight (I have heard that budget flights like Cebu, tiger may sometimes cacel the flights)..so, I paied $200 and booked in Philippina Airlines.

Other minor notes:

--- Most of the time, I ate food at the restaurant attached to PB hotel.

--- Please be aware that some times, girls order double drinks. Ask the price before they order. Luckily, one girl did such thing to me. Most of the girls ordered Mango Juice.

--- I usually do not drink liquor. I thought it was a shame...but it was not...we can order anything. I ordered mineral water all the time.

--- There are lot of Money changers across the AC. the barbar shop near to Voodoo bar gave me more exchange rate during my time.

--- Paid 50P for the trike all the time.

--- Paid 2500+800 P for my car trip to Manila. My BF sent me off ..so, I had to pay additional 800P for her to come back. The car was arranged by PB hotel.

--- Total damage including travel, hotel food, bf etc etc: $900 for 7 days.

--- Eventhough Aug is a rainy season in AC, I did not see heavy rains except few light showers.

--- I did not know that I had to pay 750P exit tax at Manila airport.

One big thing I noticed was that after 4 to 5 days of fun, I really had frustration about girls, bars etc...At that time, I realized that having 1 week trip is just fine rather than having 2 weeks or 1 month long trip. So, I would advise for those mongers who go on long vacation...think again..but it's your personal opinion... Eventhough it cost more (travel charges), according to my own experience having small duration multiple trips are memorable rather than having one long trip. Especailly, I don't link any other activities except P4P action.

If any of you have any questions, please do ask before my brain drains off those fond memories.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Phantomtiger2
08-29-09, 22:44
Hi ,

--- Booked my flight Tiger Airways from SIN to CRK Aug 9th, 2009. As many of you know, I too had faced credit card issues while booking the ticket on the internet. I then called to Singapore office and booked over phone. Their system already has my internet booking details. I just gave them my credit card details.


EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


What is wrong with this airline?. Suppose to be part of Quantus air but no comparison to the service. I've flown on airlines that owns just 2 planes in far flung countries that had easier booking.
I had tried for 2 days to book a flight with Tigerair and was rejected 4 times on line (denied all of my 4 credit cards and 1 debit card). Ok , got the oversea phone # and called, guess what, they had me on hold for over 45min (Intl phone long distance rates )and all I heard was the stupid boring music and somehow at a little past 49 min, the phone was automatic disconnected?
Longest waste of time of my life on the phone for nothing.
Still haven't been able to book anything even now.


PT

Victorian
08-30-09, 02:08
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) had to go to hospital for an emergency (Ectopic Pregnancy).

She has been asking for money claiming that the hospital won't release her friend unless her bill has been paid. She emailed me (I fixed up the English a bit to improve readability):

"yes she's still in the hospital for weeks now coz she can't go out if they dont pay her hospital bill, you know she has no place to sleep in hospital and they dont bring her meal either coz they dont pay her bill in weeks, that's the regulation in the hospital they dont take you in if you dont have down payment and you can't go out either if you still dont pay her bill. I try to send you her pic. We just wait for her father to sell their land in province, but suddenly it's hard to sell property in the province that's why her parents still dont have money to take her out in hospital. You know, just my mother who brings her food in her hospital so she can eat 3times a day"

The story is that this girl has been "locked up" in hospital for close to a month now!

Does anyone know if the hospitals in Angeles pretty well and if there's any possibility of any truth to this story? Or is just a total scam? It sure sounds over the top, even for Angeles!

Thanks

Sunnyvale69
08-30-09, 02:14
One of my Australian buddy called to India's Tiger Airways office from USA and successfully booked the ticket. I believe they speak pretty good English. (or) You can try calling to other countries as well where Tiger Airways has an office with phone number. Sorry, we can't do anything until they fix the problem. Fortunately, I did not face any problem when I called Singapore office to give my credit card info ....


What is wrong with this airline?. Suppose to be part of Quantus air but no comparison to the service. I've flown on airlines that owns just 2 planes in far flung countries that had easier booking.

I had tried for 2 days to book a flight with Tigerair and was rejected 4 times on line (denied all of my 4 credit cards and 1 debit card). Ok , got the oversea phone # and called, guess what, they had me on hold for over 45min (Intl phone long distance rates )and all I heard was the stupid boring music and somehow at a little past 49 min, the phone was automatic disconnected?

Longest waste of time of my life on the phone for nothing.

Still haven't been able to book anything even now.

PT

Yella Man
08-30-09, 02:53
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) had to go to hospital for an emergency (Ectopic Pregnancy).

She has been asking for money claiming that the hospital won't release her friend unless her bill has been paid. She emailed me (I fixed up the English a bit to improve readabality):

The story is that this girl has been "locked up" in hospital for close to a month now!

Does anyone know if the hospitals in Angeles pretty well and if there's any possibility of any truth to this story? Or is just a total scam? It sure sounds over the top, even for Angeles!

Thanks

Just ask her for the full name of the girl and the correct name of the hospital plus contact number, then do some research online to see if it actually exists. If it does, just call to verify the story. I highly doubt it's true.

Yella Man

Victorian
08-30-09, 02:54
Thanks
Good suggestion.


Just ask her for the full name of the girl and the correct name of the hospital plus contact number, then do some research online to see if it actually exists. If it does, just call to verify the story. I highly doubt it's true.

Yella Man

Fast Eddie 48
08-30-09, 07:35
One of my Australian buddy called to India's Tiger Airways office from USA and successfully booked the ticket. I believe they speak pretty good English. (or) You can try calling to other countries as well where Tiger Airways has an office with phone number. Sorry, we can't do anything until they fix the problem. Fortunately, I did not face any problem when I called Singapore office to give my credit card info ....Sunnyvale69,

Tiger is own by singapore air line I also have problem booking online ,I went to a travel agent when I was in Macau 2 yr ago and got the ticket Macau to clark pay cash cost is just a little highest than online 108 USD round trip.

Fast eddie 48

Paisiello
08-30-09, 08:04
Thanks

Good suggestion.Come on! I know people can be really gullible sometimes but this takes the cake. Why on earth would a hospital (or anyone else for that matter) want to feed and shelter someone while they wait for payment? I am sure that they would much rather free up a bed for a paying customer, don't you think so?

I would expect a a hospital to keep out the people that can't pay the bills but not keep them in.

Vibrations
08-30-09, 08:12
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) h

"yes she's still in the hospital for weeks now coz she can't go out if they dont pay her hospital bill, you know she has no place to sleep in hospital and they dont bring her meal either coz they dont pay her bill in weeks, that's the regulation in the hospital they dont take you in if you dont have down payment and you can't go out either if you still dont pay her bill. I try to send you her pic. We just wait for her father to sell their land in province, but suddenly it's hard to sell property in the province that's why her parents still dont have money to take her out in hospital. You know, just my mother who brings her food in her hospital so she can eat 3times a day"

ThanksYes its true that some hospitals won't release patient unless you settle the bill. Could be a scam? My advice is if you really intend to pay (better to loan it. Who knows you might get it back after the 'land' is sold). Better contact the hospital directly and wire/TT the money directly to them. Safer.

All the best.

ManonsanBoy
08-30-09, 11:17
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) had to go to hospital for an emergency (Ectopic Pregnancy).

She has been asking for money claiming that the hospital won't release her friend unless her bill has been paid. She emailed me (I fixed up the English a bit to improve readabality):


Thanks

Contact the press if you think there is any chance it is true.

Cheesemark75
08-30-09, 12:45
Does anyone know if the hospitals in Angeles pretty well and if there's any possibility of any truth to this story? Or is just a total scam? It sure sounds over the top, even for Angeles!Plausible, but probably a scam.

Medical insurance is virtually non-existent there. You have to pay for everything "out of pocket." It is true that hospitals can hold a person until the bill has been paid. I know, because I grew up in PI (up until HS). I've heard people being held up for 2 days, but never 2 weeks.

My guess is that they got that story from someone somewhere. They exaggerated it to ask for the desired amount of money from you. Besides, it is very common to make "utang" (ask for debt) from other local people there. They could ask money from the other girls. And the other girls may have been giving the same "sales talk" to many other mongers in AC.

I normally cut communication with people once I leave the country. I use a local Sim card, and if I'm around, I text them and see if I can hook up. If I'm out of the country, I'm simply out of touch.

Carmex
08-30-09, 12:57
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) had to go to hospital for an emergency (Ectopic Pregnancy).

She has been asking for money claiming that the hospital won't release her friend unless her bill has been paid. She emailed me (I fixed up the English a bit to improve readabality):

"yes she's still in the hospital for weeks now coz she can't go out if they dont pay her hospital bill, you know she has no place to sleep in hospital and they dont bring her meal either coz they dont pay her bill in weeks, that's the regulation in the hospital they dont take you in if you dont have down payment and you can't go out either if you still dont pay her bill. I try to send you her pic. We just wait for her father to sell their land in province, but suddenly it's hard to sell property in the province that's why her parents still dont have money to take her out in hospital. You know, just my mother who brings her food in her hospital so she can eat 3times a day"

The story is that this girl has been "locked up" in hospital for close to a month now!

Does anyone know if the hospitals in Angeles pretty well and if there's any possibility of any truth to this story? Or is just a total scam? It sure sounds over the top, even for Angeles!

Thanks


Complete bullshit. I know the hospitals in Angeles and that would never happen. She needs to sharpen the story for it to be even remotely plausible.

Amavida
08-30-09, 13:00
What is wrong with this airline?. Suppose to be part of Quantus air but no comparison to the service. I've flown on airlines that owns just 2 planes in far flung countries that had easier booking.
I had tried for 2 days to book a flight with Tigerair and was rejected 4 times on line (denied all of my 4 credit cards and 1 debit card). Ok , got the oversea phone # and called, guess what, they had me on hold for over 45min (Intl phone long distance rates )and all I heard was the stupid boring music and somehow at a little past 49 min, the phone was automatic disconnected?
Longest waste of time of my life on the phone for nothing.
Still haven't been able to book anything even now.


PTYes I know they advertise low fares but they have a disturbing policy regarding refunds - there are'nt any.. If your flight is cancelled for any reason, your ticket is forfeited. You must buy another ticket to rebook another flight. They have done htis too many times for me to risk them.

AV

Amavida
08-30-09, 13:14
A short time girl I've known for years and has "provided me" with some cute girlfriends, claims one of her gfs (who I saw last trip) had to go to hospital for an emergency (Ectopic Pregnancy).

She has been asking for money claiming that the hospital won't release her friend unless her bill has been paid. She emailed me (I fixed up the English a bit to improve readabality):

"yes she's still in the hospital for weeks now coz she can't go out if they dont pay her hospital bill, you know she has no place to sleep in hospital and they dont bring her meal either coz they dont pay her bill in weeks, that's the regulation in the hospital they dont take you in if you dont have down payment and you can't go out either if you still dont pay her bill. I try to send you her pic. We just wait for her father to sell their land in province, but suddenly it's hard to sell property in the province that's why her parents still dont have money to take her out in hospital. You know, just my mother who brings her food in her hospital so she can eat 3times a day"

The story is that this girl has been "locked up" in hospital for close to a month now!

Does anyone know if the hospitals in Angeles pretty well and if there's any possibility of any truth to this story? Or is just a total scam? It sure sounds over the top, even for Angeles!

ThanksThere _have been_ cases reported in the newspapers of patients being kept in hospital until the bill is paid. There is a grain of truth in it. I dont recall this being ever reported happening in AC.
Hospital & medical bills are catastrophic to the average filipino requiring the hat being passed around the family to help pay. The selling of the land rarely happens but often the land is pawned.
Everything described can & does happen BUT you must do some careful checking to verify. My gut feeling on this one is to cautiously assume bola bola until proven otherwise.

AV

Sammon
08-30-09, 13:55
Just ask her for the full name of the girl and the correct name of the hospital plus contact number, then do some research online to see if it actually exists. If it does, just call to verify the story. I highly doubt it's true.

Yella Man

In Philippines everything can be fixed. Even the hospital girls will give a letter on Hospital letterhead authenticating the story for some bribe.

Short of personally going there to verify I do not see the how you can find the truth.

By the way holding the patient against her will for non-payment is illegal in PHI. Do not know whether it will be enforced.

Buko Max
08-30-09, 14:16
Suppose to be part of Quantus air but no comparison to the service.
Actually, Tiger is based in Singapore and is owned by Singapore Airlines.
They are much better in service as compared to CP!


If your flight is cancelled for any reason, your ticket is forfeited.Just wait until you try to get a refund from Cebu Pacific! :(
They give you the runaround until you give up!

Hesekiels
08-30-09, 16:34
Complete bullshit. I know the hospitals in Angeles and that would never happen. She needs to sharpen the story for it to be even remotely plausible.

Carmex,

are you really certain that it is complete bullshit? I was told by a girl that it happened to her too! I would not bet my life, but I could well imagine that it is not impossible!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Victorian
08-31-09, 01:00
Thanks guys
I've emailed my st friend asking her for the name and address of the hospital and also her friend's registered name and that one of the guys I know in Angeles will kindly check it out for me.

I'll let you know if she gives that info or if she gives some excuse as to why she can't tell me!

And, you're right, in the Philippines so many strange things happen. I guess that's one of the reasons it's interesting! I've lived and worked in Asia quite a bit, and the fact that there is so much I don't know and understand in Asia is one of the great attractions! :)




Carmex,

are you really certain that it is complete bullshit? I was told by a girl that it happened to her too! I would not bet my life, but I could well imagine that it is not impossible!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Carmex
08-31-09, 04:15
Carmex,

are you really certain that it is complete bullshit? I was told by a girl that it happened to her too! I would not bet my life, but I could well imagine that it is not impossible!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Hmm, well, ok, then maybe. But it goes against the entire concept of health care and 'do no harm'. I know a doctor in Tacloban, (kind of fat and about a 5) and I will ask her. My gut reaction is bullshit. Unless some kind of emergency trauma or something, usually the hospitals down there make you pay in full before they do the procedure.

GF's cousin contracted Dengue fever (temp 103, WBC count below 7,000, H n H 6 and 18, etc.) and the hospital in Cebu still treated her even though the family had no money and could not pay.

This causes me to believe the story is bullshit.

Stranger things could happen though.

Edited after I.M. from Leyte.

OK, straight from the source:

"Hi JM, question? Could a hospital in Phils 'hold' a patient and not release for non payment?

JM: Its against the law. All they have to do is report it to DOH. There are private hospital who do that. But what i know of, all they have to do is promissory note.

JM: Hospitals are only allowed to hold patient if they still need medical care. If its due to non payment they just have to report it. What hospital? I can call DOH.

(after telling the story)

JM: Then its not good. What hospital is that? I think its not true."

So it looks like, if you want out of the hospital, all you have to do is call the Department of Health and sign a promissory note. Easy. Guess that shoots a hole in that story huh?

Thought so...

Rubberyman
08-31-09, 06:12
Yes I know they advertise low fares but they have a disturbing policy regarding refunds - there are'nt any.. If your flight is cancelled for any reason, your ticket is forfeited. You must buy another ticket to rebook another flight. They have done htis too many times for me to risk them.

AV


I have used Tiger to go to Clark a couple of times a year for the last four odd years and not had a problem. However, if something does turn pear shaped the reviews on the airline blogs say it is impossible to get a refund or contact them...like all cheap carriers. CP and Jetstar also have the same reputation as regards complaints and rescheduling. OTOH, on the one time when Tiger rescheduled me, they gave me plenty of notice and emailed the new times etc etc. I figure that as long as it is only once in a while I get shafted, the overall cost is low. However, I am also pretty flexible with my time since I am partly retired and if they rescheduled me to leave AC a few days later, I would just have to sob and complain to my barfine for those days. Poor me, eh?

T Roy
08-31-09, 09:14
Thanks guys,

I've emailed my st friend asking her for the name and address of the hospital and also her friend's registered name and that one of the guys I know in Angeles will kindly check it out for me.Jump out now while you can. They know you are interested and soft hearted.

Little truth to it and you are only keeping the story alive by listening to their story.

Carmex
08-31-09, 12:34
Edited after I.M. from Leyte.

OK, straight from the source:

"Hi JM, question? Could a hospital in Phils 'hold' a patient and not release for non payment?

JM: Its against the law. All they have to do is report it to DOH. There are private hospital who do that. But what i know of, all they have to do is promissory note.

JM: Hospitals are only allowed to hold patient if they still need medical care. If its due to non payment they just have to report it. What hospital? I can call DOH.

(after telling the story)

JM: Then its not good. What hospital is that? I think its not true."

So it looks like, if you want out of the hospital, all you have to do is call the Department of Health and sign a promissory note. Easy. Guess that shoots a hole in that story huh?

Thought so...


Ok, me and my big mouth. Now JM is calling and wants to know the name of the hospital and patient so she can report it to the Dept. of Health.

I guess the undersecretary is her friend and she called her after talking with me. Now the undersecretary wants to know the name of the hospital and patient.

JM thinks its a scam, but wants to make sure.

You can PM me with the info, but actually I really don't want to be involved any more.

JM also confirmed my thoughts that a patient must put a deposit down before they enter the hospital, usually 10,000 php or the patient will not be seen unless it is trauma. If the patient cannot pay this up front then they will not be seen.

As per my previous statement, the girl needs to tighten her story before it will work. heheheh

Victorian
08-31-09, 12:59
Hiya Carmex
The plot thickens!!! :) I'm sure u feel the same way; sometimes best to not get involved. I'm sure your doctor friend is correct about it being totally illegal (let alone unethical!) but I would be concerned that getting the Angeles hospital into trouble would impact the innocent girl staying there (assuming the story is true).

My "st friend" just emailed me with the name & address of the hospital and the full name of her friend, so I think I will just say "what the hell" and and send the money.

You never know in the Philippines........... :)



Ok, me and my big mouth. Now JM is calling and wants to know the name of the hospital and patient so she can report it to the Dept. of Health.

I guess the undersecretary is her friend and she called her after talking with me. Now the undersecretary wants to know the name of the hospital and patient.

JM thinks its a scam, but wants to make sure.

You can PM me with the info, but actually I really don't want to be involved any more.

JM also confirmed my thoughts that a patient must put a deposit down before they enter the hospital, usually 10,000 php or the patient will not be seen unless it is trauma. If the patient cannot pay this up front then they will not be seen.

As per my previous statement, the girl needs to tighten her story before it will work. heheheh

X Man
08-31-09, 13:13
I'm kind of perplexed by the outcome here.

Was Victorian just playing around with ISG members?

Reading back, I didn't see the amount in question. How much?

X


Hiya Carmex
The plot thickens!!! :) I'm sure u feel the same way; sometimes best to not get involved. I'm sure your doctor friend is correct about it being totally illegal (let alone unethical!) but I would be concerned that getting the Angeles hospital into trouble would impact the innocent girl staying there (assuming the story is true).

My "st friend" just emailed me with the name & address of the hospital and the full name of her friend, so I think I will just say "what the hell" and and send the money.

You never know in the Philippines........... :)

Victorian
08-31-09, 13:55
Hi xman
No, there was no "playing around" with ISG. It was a serious question and I was very interested to know if it was definitely bola or there was a chance it was true.

I didn't want to make the "story" too long, so I cut out a lot of not so relevant details. I didn't think the amount I sent was central to the question if hospitals locked up patients who don't pay. But happy to share a more details if u want to know.

I met my ST friend, Manilyn, and her gf, Joy, for a very nice st on my last visit to Angeles in late July/early August. Joy was a real sweetie and gave great service.

On around 1 August I got a text from Manilyn giving me the sob story about Joy having to go to hospital for an emergency and saying she needed 4000p. I was with another "friend" then and didn't want to go out of the bed and also I was flying to a province the next day, so I ignored the text, also thinking it was bola bola.

Anyway, lots more texts followed and I gave in and sent 3000p a few days later, thinking that would be the end of it.

However, when I got home to Australia a few days after that, I get another email saying they needed another 5000p, so I sent 4000p, again thinking that would be the end of it.

She's now saying they need ANOTHER 3000p to get her out of her lockup and that a lot of the money I sent before was for food for Joy etc etc etc. Even heavy stuff like Joy tried to escape and the guard caught her and that where Joy is staying there's no food, bed etc.

The total claimed bill (I vaguely recall her saying Joy's also being charged extra for being locked up!) was around 13000p

I really thought that getting hit for money three times for something that always sounded pretty suss was getting too much, so then I put the simplified story into ISG.

I didn't want to take up too much ISG space talking about hospitals when the main topic of interest is LBFMs!

So the conclusion of the never ending story is I will send the final 3000p cos there is a chance it's true and if it is true, I don't want that to happen to Joy as she is a real sweetie.

Happy for u to pm me if u want to know more.



I'm kind of perplexed by the outcome here.

Was Victorian just playing around with ISG members?

Reading back, I didn't see the amount in question. How much?

X

John Traveller
08-31-09, 21:15
Back in my home country and started to work again (tough going), I would like to recounter my days in AC this summer. I stayed there for six days, and wow! A different world indeed! I have been mongering in other countries in SE Asia as well as South America, but the Philippines are different. Girls staying with you all night, bf-experiences and all that. I quick retelling:

I barfined five different girls in AC, all staying with me all night (sorry about lack of names but I never remember names).

The first girl was maybe the best, young, inexperienced, beautiful and cuddling/kissing me all night. Later I regret a bit that I didn't stay more days with her, but then again I could have ended up falling in love with her her. Against my rule of "love them and leave them". The second girl: caring and pretty. The third girl: a bit darker skinned, funny, talkative and horny. The fourth girl, a bit older, good technics, classic beauty. The fifth girl: different, a bit taller, active, wanting to make everything good.

One thing bothers me though: lack of condom use. Folks: Always use a condom! (This is my second rule.)

And then this thing about "Cherry Girls". I have not seen this anywere else. Can be funny, or can be annoying if you don't get what's going on. At first I tried to barfine one of these, she answered "I have to get up erly tomorrow". Something similar happened two more times. But maybe entertaining for some? And this very small "V" they have on their pants, you cannot see this from a distance! (Better to ask the Mamasan first.) Anyway, is it possible to barfine one of these girls? If so: how to do it? And how many pesos? Just curious.

Bars to be recommended (all at/near Fields Av): Body shop, Camelot, La bamba.

Ok bars: Carousel, Geckos.

Not to be recommended: Agasya, Blue nile, Atlantis, Doll house.

Barfines were from 1350 to 1500. I stayed at Central Park and Swiss Chalet, both central and good, was it 1700? For newbees I recommend reading a lot in this forum.

Yes, another thing, a few days in AC are enough, AC is small enough to have you bump into people you don't want too. This starts to happen just after a few days.

BTW: I see that some people have discussed food budgets on this forum. Don't bother with that! You don't eat much in this place. I had just two small meals each day. I smoked way to much cigarettes though (something with the waiting and exitement).

So after having got advices from this forum for a long time I am now giving something back to.

Oooh the Philippines, I'll be back!

Yella Man
08-31-09, 21:37
If I gave in and sent money to all the girls I've met in the Philippines who have requested it in the past (not all do), I wouldn't have a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in! A GFE with a nice horny girl is one thing, but after you leave the islands tuck that GFE away in a special place in your mind and leave it there. Do not pull it out and ruminate over it when you get a money request from them, or you can bet your ass, if you do send money once, numerous requests will follow.

Yella Man


Hi xman

On around 1 August I got a text from Manilyn giving me the sob story about Joy having to go to hospital for an emergency and saying she needed 4000p.
Anyway, lots more texts followed and I gave in and sent 3000p a few days later, thinking that would be the end of it.

However, when I got home to Australia a few days after that, I get another email saying they needed another 5000p, so I sent 4000p, again thinking that would be the end of it.

She's now saying they need ANOTHER 3000p to get her out of her lockup

Hesekiels
08-31-09, 21:42
...
So the conclusion of the never ending story is I will send the final 3000p cos there is a chance it's true and if it is true, I don't want that to happen to Joy as she is a real sweetie...




Victorian:

did I understand you correctly? You have already sent money over and over again? Careful brother, it's noble to help, but the line between being used, misused and abused is very thin. Just my two cents.

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Csun213
09-01-09, 03:37
Victorian, just wait until you send the money. There will be more stories on why they need more money from you. After all, if you find a cash cow, would you let it go?

They will keep asking money from you until you wise up and stop sending money to them. They will move onto the next sucker and it will start again. After all there is a sucker born every minute.

Just see what happens if you don't send them any more money. It will turn ugly very fast or they will just not contact you anymore. After all, why keep touch with you if they can't get more money out of you.

Chocha Monger
09-01-09, 05:06
Victorian,

The girls know that they have a live one on the line and they'll continue playing you for all you're worth. You need to cut them off now or like the others said it will continue. If you keep sending them money worth several bar fines why in the world would they stop?

By the way Victorian I'm sort of down on my luck and my creditors are threatening to put me in jail. Can you send me some money? PM me for details. :)

Yellow Fever #2
09-01-09, 07:40
Hi xman
No, there was no "playing around" with ISG. It was a serious question and I was very interested to know if it was definitely bola or there was a chance it was true.

I didn't want to make the "story" too long, so I cut out a lot of not so relevant details. I didn't think the amount I sent was central to the question if hospitals locked up patients who don't pay. But happy to share a more details if u want to know.

I met my ST friend, Manilyn, and her gf, Joy, for a very nice st on my last visit to Angeles in late July/early August. Joy was a real sweetie and gave great service.

On around 1 August I got a text from Manilyn giving me the sob story about Joy having to go to hospital for an emergency and saying she needed 4000p. I was with another "friend" then and didn't want to go out of the bed and also I was flying to a province the next day, so I ignored the text, also thinking it was bola bola.

Anyway, lots more texts followed and I gave in and sent 3000p a few days later, thinking that would be the end of it.

However, when I got home to Australia a few days after that, I get another email saying they needed another 5000p, so I sent 4000p, again thinking that would be the end of it.

She's now saying they need ANOTHER 3000p to get her out of her lockup and that a lot of the money I sent before was for food for Joy etc etc etc. Even heavy stuff like Joy tried to escape and the guard caught her and that where Joy is staying there's no food, bed etc.

The total claimed bill (I vaguely recall her saying Joy's also being charged extra for being locked up!) was around 13000p

I really thought that getting hit for money three times for something that always sounded pretty suss was getting too much, so then I put the simplified story into ISG.

I didn't want to take up too much ISG space talking about hospitals when the main topic of interest is LBFMs!

So the conclusion of the never ending story is I will send the final 3000p cos there is a chance it's true and if it is true, I don't want that to happen to Joy as she is a real sweetie.

Happy for u to pm me if u want to know more.


I think you should continue to send money to her/him/it as long as they request it. There is a very small chance the request is genuine and will end after the emergency is over but it is vanishingly small.

I am sure she is a real sweetie, nothing would be sweeter, except the next girl you find. For some reason the last one always tastes the sweetest. How do they do that?

I like the stories and as long as you keep sending money you will have more and more excuses. I want to hear all the reasons they ask for money so don't stop sending the money now or there will be no further stories. I really want (as I am sure other ISG members) to hear how rediculous the excuses are and will become. Please continue to send money and post your stories here. Please don't hold back - and don't be a cheap Charlie.

Don't worry, you will not clog up the forum. We all love to hear these stories but perhaps you should move this conversation to Filipinas - Opinions and Advice.

Warbucks
09-01-09, 08:25
I think you should continue to send money to her/him/it as long as they request it. There is a very small chance the request is genuine and will end after the emergency is over but it is vanishingly small.

I am sure she is a real sweetie, nothing would be sweeter, except the next girl you find. For some reason the last one always tastes the sweetest. How do they do that?

I like the stories and as long as you keep sending money you will have more and more excuses. I want to hear all the reasons they ask for money so don't stop sending the money now or there will be no further stories. I really want (as I am sure other ISG members) to hear how rediculous the excuses are and will become. Please continue to send money and post your stories here. Please don't hold back - and don't be a cheap Charlie.

Don't worry, you will not clog up the forum. We all love to hear these stories but perhaps you should move this conversation to Filipinas - Opinions and Advice.

Yellow Fever you sarcastic mofo LOL :D. Hey he is an ISG brother would you let your brother walk off a cliff?

Victorian throw this fish back into the pond from which it came. While the vote has been varied I vote she is playing you. Cut her loose a decent Filipina wouldn’t burden you with her personal problems like this.

Carmex
09-01-09, 11:16
By the way Victorian I'm sort of down on my luck and my creditors are threatening to put me in jail. Can you send me some money? PM me for details.

Hahahaha! Hey me too! My car is broke (if I had one), and I can't work because my landlord locked me in my house (apartment), and the cable guy is threatening to turn off the TV (gasp!), and I can only drink the rain water that I catch in a soup can from my rooftop (water delivered once a month in two big water jugs), and, and, and, is 20,000 php too much??

Yella man, heheh love the sarcasm. Just what the board needs.

But seriously, Vic, do you really believe what you wrote on the board? Because I cannot. I offered you a legitimate alternative to Western Union and you went with the latter. Unbelievable.

Seriously though, Hospital Jail? With no food or water? What story will they think of next? A sick water buffalo? Oh yea, done already. OK, better stick with hospital jail.

One girl once told me she needed feed for her piglets in the province. I asked what was the name of said feed and she replied, "Piglet Booster!" I laughed my ass of on that one. Uh, for the record, pigs eat this thing called slop or more to the point, garbage. They really go crazy for it. Really!

Again I say, OMG! Man, times is tough in PI :)

Crazy Ami
09-01-09, 16:55
Club Asia is a new bar that's being built now (maybe finished next month), located near Vortex and Walkabout Hotel.

I was told it's in the same group as Atlantis, Dollhouse, Tropix, Crystal Palace and Pony Tail.

A "girlfriend" of mine who works in one of those bars has told me a couple of times that Club Asia is going to be for Asians only, not Americans etc.

That's, of course, is hard to believe, and I hope it's not true, but at the very least that's what the some of the girls believe. Bit like the rumours around Agasaya; may not be true, but certainly worth keeping an eye on. And it would be good to hear from anyone who visits it when it's open.

Enjoy

Straight talk: Not true.

I have a buddy who works for this group (yes, it's being opened by the Atlantis/Dollhouse group). It will be run on the same lines as the other bars in the group. Although, from what I'm told, it will try to be a more "upscale" atmosphere, more of a club-style chic than typical Fields bars. Therefore, the prices (for drinks and sundries anyway) might be a little higher, and since it's closer to the other "high-rent" clubs on that side of Fields (Blue Nile, Golden Nile, etc), it might get a larger percentage of Asian "high rollers", but it will be under Western management, unlike the Agasya group, which is actively negative towards non-Asians.

ManonsanBoy
09-01-09, 22:31
Hey veterans

I like short time. Is there an economical way to do this without paying the full bar fine in this town?

D Cups
09-01-09, 22:34
Hey veterans

I like short time. Is there an economical way to do this without paying the full bar fine in this town?Go to Blow Row.

Robbaf
09-01-09, 22:35
Spent last four days in AC and thought I would share some pictures.

Robb

Ezinho
09-01-09, 22:51
Hey veterans

I like short time. Is there an economical way to do this without paying the full bar fine in this town?
One of my biggest complaints about AC, not enough short time options. The whole scene in AC is geared towards LT and taking the bargirl out to dinner and barhopping and all that nonsense. It's really more of a destination for "love tourists" than "sex tourists".

Having said that, you still have some options. Some of the bars have rooms on site where you can do ST. Honey Ko's is one bar, it's 750 pesos for ST there. Emotions Club has rooms on site, but the barfine is still 1200 pesos. There might be some more bars with rooms on site but I can't remember any off the top of my head.

Then you have the places like D Cups mentioned on blow row that do ST, price seemed to be 600-700 pesos depending on the bar. Quality seemed to vary greatly from bar to bar and day to day; really quite hit and miss.

You can always barfine a girl for ST and then just not give her a tip. She'll probably just go back to the bar to make more money on drinks or do another barfine.

Don't forget, if you barfine a girl once and you get her number, she can come to your place before/after work and see you for less/no money. That can be hit and miss as well, though.

Hope this helps.

Rubio Tonto
09-01-09, 23:15
From my experience, both girls I took out of Dr. Holm's wanted short time only. Other Perimeter bars might be the same, especially if you take the girl out in the afternoon or early evening. She can shower and return to the bar and get more lady drinks, or another bar fine.

Member #4167
09-01-09, 23:56
Don't forget, if you barfine a girl once and you get her number, she can come to your place before/after work and see you for less/no money. That can be hit and miss as well, though.

Hope this helps.Ezinho - how does AC compare with other places you have been, like Quito ?

Avivador
09-02-09, 07:09
Robb said:

Spent last four days in AC and thought I would share some pictures?

Girls are really great. Please: That bar are these photos?

Thanks

Yella Man
09-02-09, 07:18
Spent last four days in AC and thought I would share some pictures.

Robb


Robbaf, I see you're a tit man. I've always heard that salt will tighten up a pussy...did it work? Great pics!

Yella Man

ManonsanBoy
09-02-09, 11:02
From my experience, both girls I took out of Dr. Holm's wanted short time only. Other Perimeter bars might be the same, especially if you take the girl out in the afternoon or early evening. She can shower and return to the bar and get more lady drinks, or another bar fine.


Yes but what do they charge?

X Man
09-02-09, 11:56
I think they have a playbook. After receiving the first money, the reply is,

"Oh honey, are you sure?
Blah, blah.
I never received the money."


Victorian, just wait until you send the money. There will be more stories on why they need more money from you. After all, if you find a cash cow, would you let it go?

T Roy
09-02-09, 13:43
trip report end of august.

i walked down to zapata mex for a cheese burger last week. was hot but refreshing to get out and be hounded by hundreds of beggars and vendors.

on me way back to ramada hotel i stopped in one of those tri bars near willie pigs. the name escapes me for the moment but was between bare assets and badda bing? shaped like a candy bar. that much i recall.

i was called in by the screeching door girl (sir! come inside!). walked in and was dark. had to wait 5 seconds for the eyes to adjust.

gawd! nice place. 4m wide and about 12m deep. 3 gallons of paint thrown on the wall, 14cm elevated plywood floor and 8 dancers on the floor with 3 over in the left corner smoking and texting.

i found an empty spot mid way and plopped down. my eyes still adjusting to the darkness and now, smoke. what the hell they put in them cigarettes. water buffalo dung? that is the worst smell ever!

after 3 more seconds a 30 something person came over, put her cig in the ash trey next to me and screeched, what you drink! i looked at the cig and scratched my head wondering how i deserved this royal treatment.

just then an amazing thing happened. a monkey jumped off the stage and started parading up and down in front of the high stage. was a sight to be hold. walked like a monkey, looked like a monkey and therefore must have been a monkey.

to my surprise, the 30 something hag shouted, buy drink! buy drink! while pointing at the prime mate. i waived that off and asked for a sml! she then left and forgot her rolled buffalo dung burning next to me.

i then thought it was to ward off the mosquitoes. i didn't feel and bites so i spit on the burning bush. still smoldering though.

here she comes and screeching instructions to gawd only knows who and at the top of her smoke filled lungs. right in my face. my teeth were chattering from that gawd awful noise!

red adair and boot & coots could have used her over in kuwait to send instructions down to the guys next to the destroyed wellhead. would have made life better but then she'd be there to make all the local camels look good too!


pushes a short, fat and dark bottle in my face. what's this i aske her. dont look like an sml. she looked at it and said but you order sm. no, i asked for a sml while you where hollering at the girls to dance on the stage. to my delight she then grabbed her smoldering rolled dung, sticks in her mouth and...

puff, puff, puff! i felt so bad for her. she was sucking on that cig so hard it was funny. her toad sack dress was being sucked up her arse each time she tried to get the cig back to life. she even took a break and looked at the head, stuck it back in and puffed off to the bar.

there she goes again. screeching instructions to the bar keep. was a big commotion there and 1 minute later she comes back with the sml i ordered 2 minutes ago. ah yes, service at it's ac finest!

she then sat down on the other side of the divider and still trying to relight that bush. i took a swig on the sml, looked at the ac shuffle going on and no monkey in sight. must be bath time.

the 30 something sitting across starts her screeching again and one of the high class dancers comes over, pops out a lighter and gets her going again. she's in heaven. actually that wold be a good name for this bar. heaven bar ii.

once she got the bush burning again, i took one more swig, pulled out my bankroll, peeled off a hundred and shot outta there. made it to the front door, opened the curtain and left the place.

walked down to honi ko's. the place was rockin. more on that bar and lia next report coming.

oh yah! i was happen 2 times in this candy type bar. the second i walked in and the second i made it out alive! wish i had more hands to give it more thumbs down!

i'm t roy

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T Roy
09-02-09, 15:34
trip report end of august.

i walked down to zapata mex for a cheese burger last week. was hot but refreshing to get out and be hounded by hundreds of beggars and vendors.

on me way back to ramada hotel i stopped in one of those tri-bars near willie pigs. the name escapes me for the moment but was between bare assets and badda bing? shaped like a candy bar. that much i recall.

i was called in by the screeching door girl (sir! come inside!). walked in and was dark. had to wait 5 seconds for the eyes to adjust.

gawd! nice place. 4m wide and about 12m deep. 3 gallons of paint thrown on the wall, 14cm elevated plywood floor and 8 dancers on the floor with 3 over in the left corner smoking and texting.

i found an empty spot mid way and plopped down. my eyes still adjusting to the darkness and now, smoke. what the hell they put in them cigarettes. water buffalo dung? that is the worst smell ever!

after 3 more seconds a 30 something person came over, put her cig in the ash trey next to me and screeched, what you drink! i looked at the cig and scratched my head wondering how i deserved this royal treatment.

just then an amazing thing happened. a monkey jumped off the stage and started parading up and down in front of the high stage. was a sight to be hold. walked like a monkey,

looked like a monkey and therefore must have been a monkey.

to my surprise, the 30 something hag shouted, buy drink! buy drink! while pointing at the prime mate. i waived that off and asked for a sml! she then left and forgot her rolled buffalo dung burning next to me.

i then thought it was to ward off the mosquitoes. i didn't feel and bites so i spit on the burning bush. still smoldering though.

here she comes and screeching instructions to gawd only knows who and at the top of her smoke filled lungs. right in my face. my teeth were chattering from that gawd awful noise!

red adair and boot & coots could have used her over in kuwait to send instructions down to the guys next to the destroyed wellhead. would have made life better but then she'd be there to make all the local camels look good too!


pushes a short, fat and dark bottle in my face. what's this i aske her. dont look like an sml. she looked at it and said but you order sm. no, i asked for a sml while you where hollering at the girls to dance on the stage. to my delight she then grabbed her

smoldering rolled dung, sticks in her mouth and...

puff, puff, puff! i felt so bad for her. she was sucking on that cig so hard it was funny. her toad sack dress was being sucked up her arse each time she tried to get the cig back to life. she even took a break and looked at the head, stuck it back in and puffed off to the bar.

there she goes again. screeching instructions to the bar keep. was a big commotion there and 1 minute later she comes back with the sml i ordered 2 minutes ago. ah yes, service at it's ac finest!

she then sat down on the other side of the divider and still trying to relight that bush. i took a swig on the sml, looked at the ac shuffle going on and no monkey in sight. must be bath time.

the 30 something sitting across starts her screeching again and one of the high class dancers comes over, pops out a lighter and gets her going again. she's in heaven.

actually that would be a good name for this bar. heaven bar ii.

once she got the bush burning again, i took one more swig, pulled out my bankroll, peeled off a hundred and shot outta there. made it to the front door, opened the curtain and left the place.

walked down to honi ko's. the place was rockin. more on that bar and lia next report coming.

oh yah! i was happen 2 times in this candy type bar. the second i walked in and the second i made it out alive! wish i had more hands to give it more thumbs down!

i'm t roy.

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Irony Monger
09-02-09, 16:16
They will keep asking money from you until you wise up and stop sending money to them. They will move onto the next sucker and it will start again. After all there is a sucker born every minute.If you are really worried, I suggest the following approach. Instead of sending money direct to her, ask for the name of the hospital and the full name of her friend (I. E. The name she is checked in as), then you can call the hospital and offer to pay the bill direct. If she gives you any static about paying the hospital instead of her, you then know what the rest of us already know. That the whole story is BS.

Rocksoff
09-02-09, 17:14
You can always barfine a girl for ST and then just not give her a tip.

As far as I'm concerned, the money you pay in the bar is the whole fee upfront. Whether I give a tip or not is up to me, completely depending on how happy and impressed I was. As far as I could tell, the girls had the same idea.

T Roy
09-02-09, 20:13
trip report end of august.

i walked down to zapata mex for a cheese burger last week. was hot but refreshing to get out and be hounded by hundreds of beggars and vendors.

on me way back to ramada hotel i stopped in one of those tri bars near willie pigs. the name escapes me for the moment but was between bare assets and badda bing? shaped like a candy bar. that much i recall.

i was called in by the screeching door girl (sir! come inside!). walked in and was dark. had to wait 5 seconds for the eyes to adjust.

gawd! nice place. 4m wide and about 12m deep. 3 gallons of paint thrown on the wall, 14cm elevated plywood floor and 8 dancers on the floor with 3 over in the left corner smoking and texting.

i found an empty spot mid way and plopped down. my eyes still adjusting to the darkness and now, smoke. what the hell they put in them cigarettes. water buffalo dung? that is the worst smell ever!

after 3 more seconds a 30 something person came over, put her cig in the ash trey next to me and screeched, what you drink! i looked at the cig and scratched my head wondering how i deserved this royal treatment.

just then an amazing thing happened. a monkey jumped off the stage and started parading up and down in front of the high stage. was a sight to be hold. walked like a monkey, looked like a monkey and therefore must have been a monkey.

to my surprise, the 30 something hag shouted, buy drink! buy drink! while pointing at the prime mate. i waived that off and asked for a sml! she then left and forgot her rolled buffalo dung burning next to me.

i then thought it was to ward off the mosquitoes. i didn't feel and bites so i spit on the burning bush. still smoldering though.

here she comes and screeching instructions to gawd only knows who and at the top of her smoke filled lungs. right in my face. my teeth were chattering from that gawd awful noise!

red adair and boot & coots could have used her over in kuwait to send instructions down to the guys next to the destroyed wellhead. would have made life better but then she'd be there to make all the local camels look good too!


pushes a short, fat and dark bottle in my face. what's this i aske her. dont look like an sml. she looked at it and said but you order sm. no, i asked for a sml while you where hollering at the girls to dance on the stage. to my delight she then grabbed her smoldering rolled dung, sticks in her mouth and...

puff, puff, puff! i felt so bad for her. she was sucking on that cig so hard it was funny. her toad sack dress was being sucked up her arse each time she tried to get the cig back to life. she even took a break and looked at the head, stuck it back in and puffed off to the bar.

there she goes again. screeching instructions to the bar keep. was a big commotion there and 1 minute later she comes back with the sml i ordered 2 minutes ago. ah yes, service at it's ac finest!

she then sat down on the other side of the divider and still trying to relight that bush. i took a swig on the sml, looked at the ac shuffle going on and no monkey in sight. must be bath time.

the 30 something sitting across starts her screeching again and one of the high class dancers comes over, pops out a lighter and gets her going again. she's in heaven. actually that wold be a good name for this bar. heaven bar ii.

once she got the bush burning again, i took one more swig, pulled out my bankroll, peeled off a hundred and shot outta there. made it to the front door, opened the curtain and left the place.

walked down to honi ko's. the place was rockin. more on that bar and lia next report coming.

oh yah! i was happen 2 times in this candy type bar. the second i walked in and the second i made it out alive! wish i had more hands to give it more thumbs down!

i'm t roy

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Robbaf
09-02-09, 22:34
Robb said:

Spent last four days in AC and thought I would share some pictures?

Girls are really great. Please: That bar are these photos?

Thanks
Dirty Duck: No Air Con on in the bar, no customers and the pappa acted like he didn't care if we (six of us) were there or not. We went so a BF could visit her cousin. So we just barfined her and left in five minutes. I won't spend another minute in this bar

Edelweiss: No Air Con on in this bar. About 5 customers and 20 girls. We only stayed for one drink and was overcharged 300P. I caught it and the momma tried to tell us that it was correct, but we had three girls with us and they told her that we were right and not the waitress. Won't go back in here for a while.

Body Shop: We went in late and we were in a party mood. Bar was 50/60% full and a lot of girls. Had a great time and overspent

Roadies: Scott always takes the time to ensure that everything is up to par. As always had a great time here and this bar will always be on my list.

LIA: Duke and Spike always show great customer service. The girls are great and fun to play with. You will never know what you will see in this bar

Dr. Holms: Okay lineup, few customers. The girls are a little shy at first and then once they get going, they do like to have fun.

TI: I like this bar when it is hopping. Always fun to hang out and the girls like to show their great assets

VooDoo: Bar was packed with girls and customers. Maybe too packed. Couldn't see the girls and no where to sit. Stay for only one beer.

Candy Bar: I like the layout of this bar and the owners always go out of their way to show everyone a great time. I barfined two girls out of Candy Bar yesterday and we went bar hopping for a couple of hours and ended back in Candy Bar. My girls wanted to drink SML's and Momma Fey asked me if they were customers or working. I left it up to the girls and they both told her customers (no drink commission for them). Nice to have a choice

Pony Tails: Went in last night for first visit. Big bar and lots of girls. There was 20 or 25 outside on the street and at least 50 or 60 inside. Layout is okay, but if you are sitting on the walls, you can't really see the stage I will go back today at 2 pm and take another look.

Eruptions: There was a lot of customers and only a few girls. Stay for a hour and they played some good music. The papa (forgot his name) came over and gave a us a free shot. Always worth a visit.

Gentleman's Club: Bar seemed to slow down since my visit last month. Only about 10 girls and 5 customers. Only stayed for one drink as it was very hot in the club.

Bare Assets: Nice set up, about 10 customers (5 sitting at big table with papa). Girls don't seem to interact with the customers. Just do the AC shuffle Bar fined a cherry girl for my girl and my girl was hopping she would want to go to the room and play, but no luck. By far the coldest beer that I have had in AC

Sunshine Bar: Bar was 50% full and just a few girls left. Only stayed for one drink and left.

Bar Hopping: My first visit to this bar. Only 10 customers and a lot of girls and they wanted to play. Great attitude and I will make this a regular on my bar hops.

Crystal Palace: My first visit (thanks to mccawff). We went up on the third floor and made it rain on the girls

I probably have left off a few bars that we visited. I have bar hopped with 5 guys the last three days and we have made it rain. Sorry to those here who hate that, but it is what we like to do

The bad of this visit: Too many bars have their Air Con off When you get a few customers and girls dancing it gets very hot fast.

The pictures are random:

Robbaf
09-02-09, 22:41
Robbaf, I see you're a tit man. I've always heard that salt will tighten up a pussy...did it work? Great pics!

Yella Man
Yes it did:D Can't wait for you to arrive. I booked three days for this weekend in Cebu:D

Hesekiels
09-02-09, 22:45
Dirty Duck: ..., Edelweiss: .... Body Shop:... etc.
Robbaf:

wow, you must have had a very busy program! Great pics and a lot of excellent hints for Lonely Planet's entertainment section! :)

Many thanks, brother!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Aussiec
09-02-09, 23:18
This article I found today in Yahoo news and copy for all to see. Much of us already know but it is a reminder to all who travel abroad.

Copied off Yahoo Tech news on 09/01/2009 Homeland Security formalizes laptop seizure rules.- sort of

For months it's been the policy (written or unwritten, no one is sure), that the Department of Homeland Security can do pretty much whatever it wants with your laptop, cell phone, or other electronic gadgets when you, a USA Citizen, return to the country from overseas.

It's understandable why they want our laptops: If you're a terrorist, chances are you have the plans to destroy the world just sitting in your inbox, and the feds would like the chance to read them while you're waiting in line at the airport. But going through multiple gigabytes of data takes time, and so DHS has filled its vaults with the laptops of the multitude, often sitting on them for months and years as they try to figure out what to do with the bounty.

Consumer rights groups haven't exactly been thrilled with all the arbitrary searches and seizures, and for months they've been pressing for DHS to formalize and clarify the rules on what it can do. At last, the department has.

Sort of.

There's some good news in the new rules: Customs finally recognizes that holding on to a laptop for a couple of years can greatly inconvenience the life of anyone unfortunate enough to find themselves under suspicion, and is relaxing.- a little.- the rules about what it will do during a laptop seizure.

The big change is that it states owners should normally be present during any laptop search and that equipment should be returned quickly. But, as Ars Technica notes, there are numerous and vague exceptions to all of this, with exemptions granted for national security issues (why else would they search the laptop in the first place? ) and for whatever "circumstances of the matter" the agency feels appropriate.

There are some basic rules for how long they can keep your laptop now, too, with Customs having up to 30 days to hold on to it, depending on which agency actually takes it. And as Ars also notes, "the standards for seizure remain very low." And so it goes. The new rules are really just policy guidelines, so exceptions will be legion and continued abuses are almost certain, but it's good at least to have something on paper that we can complain about.complaining about things may still be tilting at windmills.- but at least now we don't have to imagine the windmills.

Robbaf
09-03-09, 04:22
Robbaf:

wow, you must have had a very busy program! Great pics and a lot of excellent hints for Lonely Planet's entertainment section! :)

Many thanks, brother!

Cheers!


HesekielsWhen I hit AC I try to do 12+ hours of bar hopping a day. Of course that includes ST during the bar hop if a girl takes my fancy. I live by the motto you can always make more money and sleep when you are dead:D

Nvslim
09-03-09, 10:09
Trip Report end of August.



3 times. Read it the first time and did not learn anything new without the name of the bar but I look forward to future reports.

Enjoy your visit and thanks for the effort.

Slim

PS:

Regular members are moderated and have to wait for their reports to show up.

X Man
09-03-09, 15:40
Didn't see post one, so hard to see what you are complaining about.

Whatever...


3 times. Read it the first time and did not learn anything new without the name of the bar but I look forward to future reports.

Enjoy your visit and thanks for the effort.

Slim

PS:

Regular members are moderated and have to wait for their reports to show up.

White Whale
09-03-09, 15:54
Eruptions: There was a lot of customers and only a few girls. Stay for a hour and they played some good music. The papa (forgot his name) came over and gave a us a free shot. Always worth a visit.



The Eruptions bar girl still writes she has not got salary in five weeks. She was planning to change the bar to Body Shop but she tells there are already plenty of girls and salary there is 2/3rd what she has been paid in Eruptions. In addition the manager gave promises about paying salaries witihin days.

No, she has not asked money from me.

Ekspat
09-04-09, 03:05
When I hit AC I try to do 12+ hours of bar hopping a day. Of course that includes ST during the bar hop if a girl takes my fancy. I live by the motto you can always make more money and sleep when you are dead:D
Excellent! Same my strategy! :D
14 days to go!

Cheers!

Fedex
09-05-09, 00:25
Been to AC last November and will be back early November of this year again.

I have never asked an all-nighter to come back and see me in the early afternoon (say 1:00 - 3:00), before she starts working, but I may do so during this year's visit.

If the current BF is 1300 - 1500p, what should be the recommended donation - or donation plus tip - for such an early afternoon session?

Many thanks in advance for your helpful advice!
Fedex

Amavida
09-05-09, 01:03
I have never asked an all-nighter to come back and see me in the early afternoon (say 1:00 - 3:00), before she starts working, but I may do so during this year's visit.

If the current BF is 1300 - 1500p, what should be the recommended donation - or donation plus tip - for such an early afternoon session?Hi Fedex, not exactly sure what you mean..

1) You mean you want to repeat a LT BF with a girl this visit (stay the night until morning breakfast?), send her home/dorm, then she returns again 2 hours before her work starts?
I gotta say thats asking a lot, the poor girls have to attend to their pinoy BF's sexual needs, their illegitimate half caste baby(s) needs, go to the net cafe to send 'i love u' emails/requests for money to their various foreigners on Yahoo, go to have their medical checkup, go to western union to pick up the remittances from her various foreigner bf's, give money to her pinoy bf so he can go out drinking & whoring, get their groceries, pay their rent, do their laundry, get some sleep..

or

2) You mean a girl you previously did LT on a past visit you now want to meet this visit for a ST before her work? In that case standard ST rates apply. Ask at her bar if you are scrupulously honest or see if you can sweet talk her into a 'non bar' tryst. Bear in mind she may be very tired/sore after being up all the previous night with me :D

If you inject a little romance into the transaction she will probably hang out with you UNTIL two hours before she needs to go to work (with many furtive txt's to her Pinoy bf & various foreigner bf's).

AV

Hesekiels
09-05-09, 13:50
Been to AC last November and will be back early November of this year again.

I have never asked an all-nighter to come back and see me in the early afternoon (say 1:00 - 3:00), before she starts working, but I may do so during this year's visit.

If the current BF is 1300 - 1500p, what should be the recommended donation - or donation plus tip - for such an early afternoon session?What's the problem? If you had a great LT session then you have most likely asked the girl for her cellphone number, right? In this case you can always call her in for ST, let's say from 2:30 to 5:00 hrs!

But this is just a private agreement between the girl and you, of course without involving the bar (her mamasan must not know of such an arrangement!)! And indeed, like bro Amavida wrote, in this case you pay the usual ST rate of 800 to 1000 pesos. Fair enough, isn't it!?

BTW, I have more than a dozen telephone numbers from bargirls on my list who are most pleased to serve me in the afternoon gross for net! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Cecil
09-05-09, 14:15
Yes it is true the EWR or BF is about 1300 and tip should be 200-300 for short time and 500 for lt if she rocks your world. Treat her nice take her shopping the next day or to dinner and you get better performance the next time.

ManonsanBoy
09-05-09, 21:03
If you are really worried, I suggest the following approach. Instead of sending money direct to her, ask for the name of the hospital and the full name of her friend (I. E. The name she is checked in as), then you can call the hospital and offer to pay the bill direct. If she gives you any static about paying the hospital instead of her, you then know what the rest of us already know. That the whole story is BS.


Enough on this topic?

Rubberyman
09-06-09, 03:14
Yes it is true the EWR or BF is about 1300 and tip should be 200-300 for short time and 500 for lt if she rocks your world. Treat her nice take her shopping the next day or to dinner and you get better performance the next time.

Those are reasonable tip amounts for US Citizens.

Aussies and Kiwis should only pay up to 300 for LT and only IF she goes over and above. (That I know for certain since I am one of the above and never have a problem and get plenty of return business). I have never ever ever tipped for a ST.

Japanese and Koreans normally pay several times that from what I can gather.

The Phils is NOT a tipping culture, but the ladies are smart enough to know who to guilt or praise into tipping, and how much they can get you to tip. So if they see someone from the US or Korea/Japan they 'expect' the amounts that these cultures 'expect' to tip.

Having said that, I have provided gifts to those ladies who have stayed with me LT over multiple nights - near the end of the trip. (New dress, shoes, that sort of thing). Personally I think the sort of ladies I like appreciate the sort of present that a boyfriend might give them (even a fat fifties balding one like me) much more than money. (Of course I do tend to select ladies based on a GFE - so maybe more $$ is expected for those who prefer the more PSE experience from the more 'experienced' ladies).

However, the golden rule is: "up to you." You must suit yourself, be happy!

Fast Eddie 48
09-06-09, 06:21
Been to AC last November and will be back early November of this year again.

I have never asked an all-nighter to come back and see me in the early afternoon (say 1:00 - 3:00), before she starts working, but I may do so during this year's visit.

If the current BF is 1300 - 1500p, what should be the recommended donation - or donation plus tip - for such an early afternoon session?

Many thanks in advance for your helpful advice!
FedexFEDEX,

I only tip if I get multi shots and girl stay all night until the morning ,I tip up to 500 peso if the girl is GFE and I like to take them out for breakfast and to the mall bring her back to hotel after for one more shots before let her go .

Fast eddie 48

Rob Woodrow
09-06-09, 08:11
Yes it is true the EWR or BF is about 1300 and tip should be 200-300 for short time and 500 for lt if she rocks your world. Treat her nice take her shopping the next day or to dinner and you get better performance the next time.
I would disagree. I'm American and NEVER tip for short time. Why would I do that? All it does is encourage more LT to ST conversions.

500 pesos for LT world-rockers is about right, though.

Those are reasonable tip amounts for US Citizens.

Aussies and Kiwis should only pay up to 300 for LT and only IF she goes over and above. (That I know for certain since I am one of the above and never have a problem and get plenty of return business). I have never ever ever tipped for a ST.
I'm going to start claiming to be Kiwi! I doubt they can tell the difference.

Fedex
09-07-09, 00:05
Thanks for the input, guys!

(Sorry - I couldn't get online earlier...).

AV: What I meant was option #1.

Hesekiels: That's the answer I was looking for. So 800 - 1,000p is the ST rate.

Hmmm... Some of the bargirls in the street that parallels Fields Ave (just in front of Swiss Chalet) offered LT for 1,000p last year... But these may be the "runners" ("my baby is sick" after the 1st pop...). One of the hottest girls I BF'd from Rhapsody last year (19 years old with a killer body and top GFE service) was 1,200 LT (took her twice during my 4 nights in AC that time).

I guess I will just have to rest my old body during the day and just do the LT's. No need to push it, as I will spend 9 days there this coming November.

Thanks again, everyone!

Fedex
09-07-09, 00:40
I will be spending 2 weekends in AC from November 1st.

I have inquired with the Lewis Grand hotel, but was told no pool parties were planned... (???)

I'm referring to the ones when u see a bunch of bargirls in bikinis danceing, swimming and having fun in and around a hotel's pool.

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMS3RJzMby8

or like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnSCadXQO5o&feature=fvw

Thanks again in advance,
Fedex

Acfreddie
09-07-09, 01:26
Posted from a close friend of mine who I was bar hopping with

So there he is, sitting in Ponytails bar (on Saturday). he has a pair of dancers sitting with him. he bought them each a couple of ladies drinks while he conducted the pre-barfine interview with girl number one. Her friend, girl number two was a decent looking backup or potential future ewr so drink not being wasted. He bought girl number 1 a drink when I called her down from the stage and she ordered chocolate milk. Regular price, no problem. After a bit he called her friend down cause he figured he could knock out two interviews at the same time. It's all good. Was watching the dancers for a while, a lot of decent ones in the line up at the time.

The girls had just about finished their drinks and he was going to buy one more before I paid the ewr for girl #1. One of the lead waitresses (wearing street clothes, was a mamasan) came over an spoke to both of the girls for a few minutes, as well as my waitress who was standing off to the side. he asked the girls if they wanted another drink, both said yes (of course).

After he told the waitress to get the girls another drink he got up and went to the CR. he came back at about the same time that the drinks did. Surprise, surprise the girls had changed their drink preference to GATORADE (250p), guess they had drank too much chocolate milk....

Now, from what he had read, the waitress is supposed to ask if the customer want to spring for a double ladies drink at Ponytails, but I guess they don't always follow that rule cause my waitress sure as fuck didn't ask him. The only notice he got was when he got the bill and added up the totals and saw the 250p price for the drinks.

I wonder what the waitress supervisor (mamasan) said to the girls; I'm assuming it was a reminder to the girls (and the waitress) that the bar, the supervisor and the girls make more when a double lady drink is bought.

End of story was that the bar lost a bit of money now, and more in the future from him. The following is the result of the "surprise" change to the kind of drink ordered:

1. Ponytails lost the profit from him paying for an EWR last night.

2. Ponytails lost a bit of future profit from both of us cause I guarantee you that he will never by another lady drink in their bar. He probably won't barfine there either, cause 99% of the time he conducts a pre-ewr interview over a couple drinks. No drinks=no ewr generally speaking.

3. He may still go in there cause it is a nice bar with a decent line up, but he won't trust the statements made by management there, cause when they said that the waitresses will always notify you prior to taking a double lady drink order, it is not exactly the truth.

To paraphrase the saying "You can take a girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl" He offers the following:

"You can take a Dollhouse Group Bar out of Field Ave, but you can't take the Dollhouse Group Policies out of their Bars".

Acfreddie
09-07-09, 01:31
The Eruptions bar girl still writes she has not got salary in five weeks. She was planning to change the bar to Body Shop but she tells there are already plenty of girls and salary there is 2/3rd what she has been paid in Eruptions. In addition the manager gave promises about paying salaries witihin days.

No, she has not asked money from me.

That is in line with the information that I have about Eruptions as well. I have information that some have not been paid in as long a 6 weeks.

As far as Body Shop is concerned, they do have a ton of girls, BUT they will be opening a sister bar (well two actually) so Body Shop will see a reduction in the number of girls available around the 15th of September (as this is the targeted date for the soft opening) the 1st new bar to open will be called "Shooterz".

Acfreddie
09-07-09, 01:41
I will be spending 2 weekends in AC from November 1st.

I have inquired with the Lewis Grand hotel, but was told no pool parties were planned... (???)

I'm referring to the ones when u see a bunch of bargirls in bikinis danceing, swimming and having fun in and around a hotel's pool.

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMS3RJzMby8

or like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnSCadXQO5o&feature=fvw

Thanks again in advance,
Fedex

I do not know of any as well, that is the bad news.

The good news is that if you get a couple of few guys together, like I did just a couple of weeks ago, you can start your own pool party

On a side note - Just make sure that the location that you do not try to have your pool party is the Orchid inn. Two close friends of mine, tried that 5 days ago and they were told by management of the hotel (not the filipino guards or front desk staff) that nudity (girls being nude in the pool) was not allowed to happen. They all got out of the pool got the girls dressed and immediately moved hotels (they went to the lewis grand) where they encountered no problems continuing their party.

Amavida
09-07-09, 08:04
I will be spending 2 weekends in AC from November 1st.
I have inquired with the Lewis Grand hotel, but was told no pool parties were planned... (???)
I'm referring to the ones when u see a bunch of bargirls in bikinis danceing, swimming and having fun in and around a hotel's pool.Dolls House Inn. Get some buddies together, rent some *****s, let the decadence begin...

AV

SmartEuropean
09-07-09, 09:48
My dear friends, I write you these lines to ask you for some good advises. Feel free to write here your opinions in the most open way, since I am old enough to understand that any opinion is a good opinion. I hope that this thread is the correct one where to post this discussion. If not, please, Jackson, move it where you consider it more proper.

The point is that I am planning to marry a babe met in a bar in Angeles. And my question is: is that a good idea or not? Before replying, please, read till the bottom.

I give you here few honest details so that you can understand the whole situation and tell me what you think according to your experiences.

The report about my days in Angeles is number 4147 of 3rd July this year in the Angeles thread, and you can read it to have a general idea. What I can add here is that I have considered very well the days I spent with her and I found her very nice and sweet and caring. So, since I am planning to marry again anyway and I have just closed with my gf here, I am considering this option too.

About her: she is about 25 years younger. She never asked me money in Angeles nor later. I never asked her to leave her job there. Few weeks after I was back home, she left the bar life because of some arguing with her mamasan and colleagues. At the moment she works as a nanny. And when I spoke to her of my idea she said it is fine. And, what is very important to me, agreed to have no kids, since I do not want any troubles with the ones I already have.

About me: my financial position is not great but good enough to support her in the first period. She wants to work and she is ready to be a nanny here too, the sort of job for a girl like her can easily find in this part of the world. Of course I like her a lot and I had the time to see that she can be a good partner, too.

In these three months we exchanged few very nice mails and phone calls. When I told her about my plan, she honestly and openly told me her story: an usual story of this kind of situation. She also added she had already been in Angeles years ago for few months. She left the bar because of a Westerner guy who promised her everything and gave her money to go to school again and then suddenly disappeared. And she also told me of a former Pilipino boyfriend who deceived her.

In few days we are meeting again (I am going to Philippines again after few days spent in Thailand) to speak seriously about this matter. My idea is to marry in late 2011 and also to make her signing a very clear pre-marriage agreement with possible divorce conditions.

Now your turn. Feel free, but serious, please.

Thanks a lot,

SE

X Man
09-07-09, 11:32
I was in AC in August and "Ponytail" doesn't ring a bell. Is that a new place?

My experience with the higher priced ladies drinks is that they do ask. Maybe your exp. (friend's experience?) was an anomoly -- so not so sure you should boycott the place. Although changing drinks and drink prices the way you described is certainly not right.

If anyone has this kind of experience, I would suggest you talk to management directly. You sure as hell shouldn't expect a refund, but if you have waitresses trying to play games when the managers aren't looking, you'll save money for a few newbies.

X


Posted from a close friend of mine who I was bar hopping with

So there he is, sitting in Ponytails bar (on Saturday). he has a pair of dancers sitting with him. he bought them each a couple of ladies drinks while he conducted the pre-barfine interview with girl number one. Her friend, girl number two was a decent looking backup or potential future ewr so drink not being wasted. He bought girl number 1 a drink when I called her down from the stage and she ordered chocolate milk. Regular price, no problem. After a bit he called her friend down cause he figured he could knock out two interviews at the same time. It's all good. Was watching the dancers for a while, a lot of decent ones in the line up at the time.

The girls had just about finished their drinks and he was going to buy one more before I paid the ewr for girl #1. One of the lead waitresses (wearing street clothes, was a mamasan) came over an spoke to both of the girls for a few minutes, as well as my waitress who was standing off to the side. he asked the girls if they wanted another drink, both said yes (of course).

After he told the waitress to get the girls another drink he got up and went to the CR. he came back at about the same time that the drinks did. Surprise, surprise the girls had changed their drink preference to GATORADE (250p), guess they had drank too much chocolate milk....

Now, from what he had read, the waitress is supposed to ask if the customer want to spring for a double ladies drink at Ponytails, but I guess they don't always follow that rule cause my waitress sure as fuck didn't ask him. The only notice he got was when he got the bill and added up the totals and saw the 250p price for the drinks.

I wonder what the waitress supervisor (mamasan) said to the girls; I'm assuming it was a reminder to the girls (and the waitress) that the bar, the supervisor and the girls make more when a double lady drink is bought.

End of story was that the bar lost a bit of money now, and more in the future from him. The following is the result of the "surprise" change to the kind of drink ordered:

1. Ponytails lost the profit from him paying for an EWR last night.

2. Ponytails lost a bit of future profit from both of us cause I guarantee you that he will never by another lady drink in their bar. He probably won't barfine there either, cause 99% of the time he conducts a pre-ewr interview over a couple drinks. No drinks=no ewr generally speaking.

3. He may still go in there cause it is a nice bar with a decent line up, but he won't trust the statements made by management there, cause when they said that the waitresses will always notify you prior to taking a double lady drink order, it is not exactly the truth.

To paraphrase the saying "You can take a girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl" He offers the following:

"You can take a Dollhouse Group Bar out of Field Ave, but you can't take the Dollhouse Group Policies out of their Bars".

Acfreddie
09-07-09, 13:45
I was in AC in August and "Ponytail" doesn't ring a bell. Is that a new place?

My experience with the higher priced ladies drinks is that they do ask. Maybe your exp. (friend's experience?) was an anomoly -- so not so sure you should boycott the place. Although changing drinks and drink prices the way you described is certainly not right.

If anyone has this kind of experience, I would suggest you talk to management directly. You sure as hell shouldn't expect a refund, but if you have waitresses trying to play games when the managers aren't looking, you'll save money for a few newbies.

X

Yes it is a new bar, opened not long ago (forget the exact date, but somewhere around the 5th of September is about the time frame).
It is a classic DHG (Doll House Group) scam, I live here and it happens all the time at all the DHG bars (I will acknowledge that at Tropix, it is rare that the waitress does not inform the customer first of the associated costs, but then again Tropix was the only DHG bar that had a foreigner manager). What really set me off is that on another board the "manager" of the bar/group had stated that there would be no double ladies drinks and green tags (which signifies the girls barfine is P3,000) at PonyTails, but obviously those statements have already been proven wrong. At the time there was no foreigner manager to speak with (there was some type of event going on elsewhere that required his attention) and from numerous previous experiences talking with a local manager/managress from the DHG is utterly pointless and a complete waste of time, so imo/realistically there was no way to inform the real management of the problem.

I am not suggesting a boycott of the bar, just letting what i know to be a fact be known to the members here. It is up to each of them to reach their own decision on how or if the scams being pulled here will influence their decisions. Personally I liked the bars layout, their girl offerings and also the P50 local customer drink price of P50 before 7pm, but I will certainly NOT be buying any ladies drinks or paying any bar fines, but I will happily continue to exchange cell numbers with the girls there and other DHG bars that pull these scams. I am not going to punish the girls for following what I am virtually certain that they were, have been and will continue to be instructed to do (meaning asking for double ladies drinks).

Rosco4444
09-07-09, 14:07
A mate in AC tells me that the Pacific Breeze is closed for some unknown reason. Is this true? Reason given "Administration Difficulties"

Anyone know anything about this?

Rosco

Finrod
09-07-09, 16:27
You could have browsed the "Angeles City Hotels & Accommodations" thread; the story can be found in there.

A mate in AC tells me that the Pacific Breeze is closed for some unknown reason. Is this true? Reason given "Administration Difficulties"

Anyone know anything about this?

Rosco

ManonsanBoy
09-07-09, 20:26
The point is that I am planning to marry a babe met in a bar in Angeles. In few days we are meeting again (I am going to Philippines again after few days spent in Thailand) to speak seriously about this matter. My idea is to marry in late 2011 and also to make her signing a very clear pre-marriage agreement with possible divorce conditions.

Now your turn. Feel free, but serious, please.

SE

What are you going to do if she is pregnant with your baby?

SmartEuropean
09-07-09, 23:03
What are you going to do if she is pregnant with your baby?Well, the plan is that she should not get pregnant. There are pills for that. And they are quite safe and reliable.

BuleDaddy
09-08-09, 02:10
What are you going to do if she is pregnant with your baby?

And I wouldn't trust a pinoy DNA test. They'd definately skew it to work for her!! You would need to take her to Bangkok's Bumugrad hospital and have the test done there along with "other" blood work. BTW, prenups are basically null and void in the US because there are an army of pinoy pock faced abagados (Lawyers) who specialize in working Uncle Sam's liberal system. Probably the same in the UK. These lawyers are always getting the max for the lady. They specialize in taking away an old geezer's estate from the heirs, having a lady marry a retired military guy just before he dies so she can get his pension for the rest of her life. They will be assisting the lady in her credit card bankruptcy after stiffing creditors for 10's or 100's of thousands. They are best at convincing the courtroom that this poor lady signed the prenup under duress and didn't understand what she was signing. She'll pretend she no speak engree. If you have it done in Tagalog she will claim to not understand it, that she speaks Vicayan or Ilocanan. If you are 10+ years older than her the court will want to make an unpleasant example of you so others will stay here with the "BIG HOMEGURL" lady and suffer. This goes for all western countries but in particular the US. Better to leave her there. Rent not buy real estate for her. Keep the payments down to rent, food, loads and trips to the province. IMHO

Ekspat
09-08-09, 02:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMS3RJzMby8
or like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnSCadXQO5o&feature=fvw

None of those parties were being held in LGH.
Maybe they arrange them only in high season?
Dec. - Mar.?

Cheers!