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Red Kilt
02-17-11, 15:22
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I hope this helps the unexperienced mongers. Now I know LOL

Amjeck
02-17-11, 18:06
Yes, it's true many girls are spoiled who do not give a good service (anymore).Unfortunately, I have to agree. During my last trip to AC, I heard these phrases over and over:

"I"m on mentstration",

"I don't do blowjobs",

"Only short time". My rebuttal was always "Well, then do I pay half price?"

I was actually quite shocked that I was really in AC. I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't in a nightmare.

I ended up having some good rides but it was so draining having to go through all the obstacles and questionaires. Also, I had to return a few girls to the bars and get my money back.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from visiting, but just be prepared for a different vibe if you haven't been to AC in awhile.

Mr Enternational
02-17-11, 18:34
Please don't buy a thing of the vendors on FieldsThose guys are funny. I wanted to buy a t-shirt from one of them. It was XL and I wear XXL. I tried it on and it didn't fit. He left and came back and gave me the same shirt again. He had gone to write another X in pen on the tag.

Fast Eddie 48
02-17-11, 20:54
I am trying to find soda water (seltzer) which seems to be sold in every bar but not in any supermarket. I tried Mr JJ and the 7-11 near Fields. Someone at 7-11 said I could get it at the mall but that seems like a real bother and may not even be true. Any ideas?To Edward.

Try the Hyper market a super market in SM mall have them, they have all kind even club soda and sparking mineral water, good place to go shopping and hunting also.

Fast Eddie 48

Edward M
02-18-11, 09:40
To Edward.

Try the Hyper market a super market in SM mall have them, they have all kind even club soda and sparking mineral water, good place to go shopping and hunting also.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks but I was trying to avoid a long hike to the mall. I did find some at Johnny's Supermarket on MacArthur south of Fields.

Pussycheck
02-18-11, 10:48
Unfortunately, I have to agree. During my last trip to AC, I heard these phrases over and over:

"I"m on mentstration",

"I don't do blowjobs",

"Only short time". My rebuttal was always "Well, then do I pay half price?"

I was actually quite shocked that I was really in AC. I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't in a nightmare.

I ended up having some good rides but it was so draining having to go through all the obstacles and questionaires. Also, I had to return a few girls to the bars and get my money back.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from visiting, but just be prepared for a different vibe if you haven't been to AC in awhile. The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. It seems that many mongers who come to AC for a short trip nowadays by low cost airlines from rich cities just want to spend money. These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl. The consequence is that the mongers who really want to have a good time and really want to have good sex and a very good service from the girls get fewer and fewer girls in AC who really are willing to do it. In the next consequence the professional mongers will look for other spots.

For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore.

Amjeck
02-18-11, 17:56
These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl.I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.

WestCoast1
02-18-11, 19:20
I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.Its true. Girls in Body Shop and Geckos have told me that. Sometimes a group of korean guys will come in and pick 3-4 girls and barfine the girls around 8pm. Then the guys leave the bar and go bar-hopping elsewhere, then return closer to closing time and take the girls. The girls report back the next day to work saying the korean she was with didn't even want sex, just to sleep with her. They also tell me that the koreans will sit and buy drinks for several hours, running up a large tab. Then the guys pay the tab and leave at closing time, heading off to their hotel with no girl. They are just into paying big LD prices and chatting the girls. Seems to me to be a holdover of the KTV bars, where they are used to paying large drink prices to sit and chat with pretty young things. Another odd scenario is the guy who buys her LD's for hours, then barfines her and takes her to his hotel for a quickie and kicks her out. Seems odd behavior to me; more like a way to empty your wallet and minimize your fun?

Mc Don
02-18-11, 21:26
I have heard the stories too. I have even heard of westerners that do this occasionally as well. One ABC guest paid a girl for 3 nights and tipped her as well (that is 3000 peso bar fine + 1000 tip each night) just to barhop with her. No sex. He is a VIP guest as well, frequent visitor. Still can't figure that one, and I have heard it on 2 occasions (separate trips) from 2 different girls. To each his own.


Its true. Girls in Body Shop and Geckos have told me that. Sometimes a group of korean guys will come in and pick 3-4 girls and barfine the girls around 8pm. Then the guys leave the bar and go bar-hopping elsewhere, then return closer to closing time and take the girls. The girls report back the next day to work saying the korean she was with didn't even want sex, just to sleep with her. They also tell me that the koreans will sit and buy drinks for several hours, running up a large tab. Then the guys pay the tab and leave at closing time, heading off to their hotel with no girl. They are just into paying big LD prices and chatting the girls. Seems to me to be a holdover of the KTV bars, where they are used to paying large drink prices to sit and chat with pretty young things. Another odd scenario is the guy who buys her LD's for hours, then barfines her and takes her to his hotel for a quickie and kicks her out. Seems odd behavior to me; more like a way to empty your wallet and minimize your fun?

George111
02-18-11, 21:34
The bad part is that the Koreans are spoiling the girls when they over pay. That is why the girls flock over them. But the good part is the girls are still fresh when you get the chance to bar fine them. Hahaha

Freezone
02-19-11, 00:54
The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. It seems that many mongers who come to AC for a short trip nowadays by low cost airlines from rich cities just want to spend money. These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl. The consequence is that the mongers who really want to have a good time and really want to have good sex and a very good service from the girls get fewer and fewer girls in AC who really are willing to do it. In the next consequence the professional mongers will look for other spots.

For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore. Despite all the negatives in AC, I still count it as one of my top 5 asia sites (as it is still relatively cheap).

Just curious, what would you list as your top 5 asia spots. But please list them based on comparable prices to AC as to be on even level on the playing field, as I could also easily list many top places but the prices will be 5x higher than AC and I would not list this as it would be unfair.

FZ

Freezone
02-19-11, 01:05
After my last post it got me thinking. Has anyone been out west to the bars in Korea Town? I know someone posted the same question about a month ago but I never saw a reply.

Please Pm if you you don't want to post here for any reason.

ThanksNot that many bars that cater to our taste out that way but there are 1 or 2 that are ok. Also a few KTV (but this is mostly for Koreans)

The most famous bar is Jolly Frogs and I remember another member writing about it a few months ago. I think the member name was phantomtiger or was it phantomtiger2? Just have to look him up.

FZ

Freezone
02-19-11, 01:09
I do have questions, where is the best place for vitamin V or C? And how much? Is it safe to buy it from street vendors?Best to have the Vitamins in hand BEFORE arriving to AC. Heard many fakes out there in AC and also heard many are real but expired for some times but repacked into newer boxes.

Also, as some have suggested, avoid the street vendors if possible.

FZ

ManonsanBoy
02-19-11, 01:23
The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore.Free market.

ThatGuy865
02-19-11, 07:14
I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.Of course its not only Koreans who do it. I know for a fact because I along with a friend did it. We bar fined girls we wanted for the night and we also short time 2 of their friends. So the 8 of us went to sky tracks. Drank, danced and partied. At the end we send the friends back to the bar and we both had our LT fines who spent the night. So after reading this I guess we are guilty too. But when you out celebrating. And just get laid isn't the only mission in your night. And fun and pariying is. Its feasible. Its just a different mindset.

Its no different the guys who will only stay in 4 star Hotels or close to that level versus guys who only need the basics in there rooms. Well fewer and fewer Basic only hotels are being built and more and more upscale Hotels are. So economics of AC is going up all around. Theres no stopping it.

Pussycheck
02-19-11, 14:41
Despite all the negatives in AC, I still count it as one of my top 5 asia sites (as it is still relatively cheap).

Just curious, what would you list as your top 5 asia spots. But please list them based on comparable prices to AC as to be on even level on the playing field, as I could also easily list many top places but the prices will be 5x higher than AC and I would not list this as it would be unfair.

FZYes, compared to the price you have to pay for a girl in AC there are not so many sites in Asia which can compare. Yes, the prices of the top places for P6 I would list here would be higher than in AC.

Yes, if you're just looking for cheap sex AC is still very good. No complain from my side.

Ok, here are other options for cheap sex:

Changping (China)

Girls from BBS: from 150 RMB per shot.

Of course Pattaya (Thailand)

There you have a beach and sea as well and the food there is much more better than in AC

Pussycheck
02-19-11, 14:43
I have heard the stories too. I have even heard of westerners that do this occasionally as well. One ABC guest paid a girl for 3 nights and tipped her as well (that is 3000 peso bar fine + 1000 tip each night) just to barhop with her. No sex. He is a VIP guest as well, frequent visitor. Still can't figure that one, and I have heard it on 2 occasions (separate trips) from 2 different girls. To each his own.I know these stories too and it's true.

Sammon
02-19-11, 17:02
I know these stories too and it's true.Maybe or maybe not.

Many girls do not want to disclose they had sex with the guy. For some reason they get some imaginary clout if they took advantage of the guy who barfined them.

In my experience I barfined a beautifull girl from agasya. We screwed around like jack rabbits all night. In the morning I suggested her to take a ride with me to Subic to see the place. She agreed and asked me if she could bring her friend. So we all took the ride. In conversation during my friends absence her friend asked me if we had sex because my girl told her friend that we only slept together and no sex. When my girl returned I asked her why she lied? Later in the room she explained that all girls lie like that to make the other bargirls jealous for not putting out and taking advantage of us punters. It seems it is a game they play.

Bottom line is whoever takes advantage of us punters gets a imaginary step up.

Soapy Smith
02-20-11, 06:56
Best to have the Vitamins in hand BEFORE arriving to AC. Heard many fakes out there in AC and also heard many are real but expired for some times but repacked into newer boxes. Also, as some have suggested, avoid the street vendors if possible. FZExpect to pay the manufacturer's price for these, whereas other drugs are usually cheap in the Phils. Some of the Mercury Drugs stores will insist on prescription for blues and yellows, others won't. But if you show up with a prescription from home, even a phony one, it will probably fly. The pharmacy clerks are not pharmacists, and they ask for prescriptions because they've been told to. But that doesn't mean they really understand the world of pharmaceutical regulations. There's a smaller chain called Star Drugs. They are often in Rustans and Robinsons Supermarkets. I've never had them ask me for prescriptions.

Puna Boi
02-20-11, 09:01
Hey guys, thanks for all the reports and info on this little gem called Fields Ave.

I am a 15 mongering veteran, have spent some time in Thailand and Vietnam checking out the scene and am a regular patron of our fine mongering scene here in Honolulu but have only recently heard about AC and the more I learn the more excited I get. I do wish I would have known about it five or six years ago though, but life is seldom perfect.

I'm going to AC in mid to late May for 9 nights ending Memorial Day as this is the most convenient time for me to get away from work. My plan is for Sat-Mon nights in AC, grab a hottie for 2 nights of GFE at Subic and then Thur-Sun back in AC and maybe Mon too. Here's the particulars and the questions:

I'm 33, look younger than that with classic American good looks that most women find attractive. I've been ran around the block once or twice so I'm not worried about falling for scams and I think I'm going to have a GREAT. Time there. I will be staying at either Fields Plaza Suites, ABC, or Wild Orchid in AC and either Arizona Resort or Vista Marina in Subic.

What is the local attitude regarding 420 friendly activities? Is it possible to procure there or do I have to worry about locals or girls setting me up with the police? What about other party additives like X or Yayo? Do the girls have any exposure to these or are they going to totally freak out if that kind of action starts happening? The 420 materials are the only ones I'm REALLY concerned about though. Would not like enduring a vacation without firing up a nice fatty every couple of hours or so. Please help.

Amjeck
02-20-11, 12:04
Of course its not only Koreans who do it. I know for a fact because I along with a friend did it. We bar fined girls we wanted for the night and we also short time 2 of their friends. So the 8 of us went to sky tracks. Drank, danced and partied. At the end we send the friends back to the bar and we both had our LT fines who spent the night. So after reading this I guess we are guilty too. But when you out celebrating. And just get laid isn't the only mission in your night. And fun and pariying is. Its feasible. Its just a different mindset.

Its no different the guys who will only stay in 4 star Hotels or close to that level versus guys who only need the basics in there rooms. Well fewer and fewer Basic only hotels are being built and more and more upscale Hotels are. So economics of AC is going up all around. Theres no stopping it. The girls used to be rewarded (financially) for providing sex. Now they are being rewarded for not providing sex. I think its important to see how this new trend is effecting the scene in AC. I personally am not a fan of providing financial rewards to sex workers unless they give me sexual favors. Thank god there are still a few spots left in SE Asia that keep this reward system in balance.

Rampana
02-20-11, 17:14
The girls used to be rewarded (financially) for providing sex.To me also happen that I met a DIA-former bargirl in AC 1 1/2 years ago.

She also told me w / o asking her that she in times still working in bar very often got barfined by korean and japanese guys just for barhop and no sex involved, not even going to the guy's hotel.

I do not believe in that "making-the-other-bargirls-jeallous"-Theory.

It is just as Amjeck said that the bg's are becoming very spoiled that way.

Ram

Botaki
02-20-11, 17:33
i'm 33, look younger than that with classic american good looks that most women find attractive.

what is the local attitude regarding 420 friendly activities? is it possible to procure there or do i have to worry about locals or girls setting me up with the police? what about other party additives like x or yayo? do the girls have any exposure to these or are they going to totally freak out if that kind of action starts happening? the 420 materials are the only ones i'm really concerned about though. would not like enduring a vacation without firing up a nice fatty every couple of hours or so. please help. no 1 who cares how you look like as long as you got money. brother, you are not here to look for a bachelorette but to fuck working girls. its the money only. forget the looks.

no 2 if you are in any kind of speed x or whatever, you are the perfect provider of a retirement fund to station 4. the cops will smell you faster than a blink. say 100. 000 peso to the fund if you can talk sweet, or 200. 000 plus if you keep being cocky. in short: if you in that. go elsewhere or risk to get busted.

Pussycheck
02-20-11, 20:39
Maybe or maybe not.

Many girls do not want to disclose they had sex with the guy. For some reason they get some imaginary clout if they took advantage of the guy who barfined them.

In my experience I barfined a beautifull girl from agasya. We screwed around like jack rabbits all night. In the morning I suggested her to take a ride with me to Subic to see the place. She agreed and asked me if she could bring her friend. So we all took the ride. In conversation during my friends absence her friend asked me if we had sex because my girl told her friend that we only slept together and no sex. When my girl returned I asked her why she lied? Later in the room she explained that all girls lie like that to make the other bargirls jealous for not putting out and taking advantage of us punters. It seems it is a game they play.

Bottom line is whoever takes advantage of us punters gets a imaginary step up. The information I've is the information from the girl I barfined. The girl I barfined told me many Japanese or Korean guys who barfined her before just wanted to bar hop with her and in the room they were completely satisfied with a quick handjob. Afterwards they slept together but no sex.

Puna Boi
02-20-11, 22:48
Phew. Was a little drunk when I wrote those last questions, judging by the fine grammar and typing.

I'm also curious if the end of May is cutting it too close to the rainy season. Am I smarter to go for less time but a week or two earlier?

WestCoast1
02-20-11, 23:21
The 420 materials are the only ones I'm REALLY concerned about though. Would not like enduring a vacation without firing up a nice fatty every couple of hours or so. Please help.Drugs? Not a good discussion item on the board. Other gents? Heavy penalties for bringing the stuff into Philippines.

Sharka
02-21-11, 01:20
The information I've is the information from the girl I barfined. The girl I barfined told me many Japanese or Korean guys who barfined her before just wanted to bar hop with her and in the room they were completely satisfied with a quick handjob. Afterwards they slept together but no sex.Wow, spending all that money and no real sex with the ladies (sorry, I often consider a HJ no better than me jerking off-and that's for free too). Strange bunch of fellas if you ask me considering I've sat next to some Koreans with their ladies in tow and they often can't even communicate with each other as their english is poor. So no real talking and no real sex, just sit next to each other having a few drinks as a BF. Like I said, strange bunch.

Sharka
02-21-11, 01:27
what is the local attitude regarding 420 friendly activities? is it possible to procure there or do i have to worry about locals or girls setting me up with the police? what about other party additives like x or yayo? do the girls have any exposure to these or are they going to totally freak out if that kind of action starts happening? the 420 materials are the only ones i'm really concerned about though. would not like enduring a vacation without firing up a nice fatty every couple of hours or so. please help.sorry as others have posted, it is not allowed to discuss certain things here (drugs, ****phil, gays etc).

if you have been to los then in general, drug use is not a big a thing among the ladies in ac as in thailand.

and yes, scams and set ups often exist for fl (**** scams) so drug scams may also exist but i'm not into this so not 100% for sure--so best to avoid.

Amjeck
02-21-11, 05:04
No 1 who cares how you look like as long as you got money. Brother, you are not here to look for a bachelorette but to fuck working girls. Its the money only. Forget the looks.For all the good looking younger guys out there, I'd recommend trying to get the girls for free. Spend only if you have to.

WestCoast1
02-21-11, 07:22
Wow, spending all that money and no real sex with the ladies (sorry, I often consider a HJ no better than me jerking off-and that's for free too). Strange bunch of fellas if you ask me considering I've sat next to some Koreans with their ladies in tow and they often can't even communicate with each other as their english is poor. So no real talking and no real sex, just sit next to each other having a few drinks as a BF. Like I said, strange bunch.Its got to be culture. If you walk into KTV places in Manila, you will see korean or japanese gents sitting around in a group, with a group of girls. The girl's aren't for takeout, just chat. In one place on Adriatico I had to pay p1000 for 30 minutes of time with a pretty girl. High LD price to buy her a drink. She told me she gets a cut of the LD and also p100 of the p1000 'seat-fine' (call it what you will). The ko / jap guys get one girl for each guy in their party, and sit and buy LD's for several hours, then walk out drunk and go back to their hotels, sans chica. Makes no sense to me, each gent is running up a p10, 000 tab for the evening in one joint for a few hours of fun, then not getting laid.

GreenBud
02-21-11, 07:34
What is the local attitude regarding 420 friendly activities? Is it possible to procure there or do I have to worry about locals or girls setting me up with the police?Weed is illegal.

I've read 2 stories in which the guy was scammed for money by the police by just looking and sniffing at the weed on the street. He didn't even buy. Never do anything on the street.

As a newbie tourist, I would definitely worry about the set up.

That being said, I was told that it's "safe" if you live there, and you have a trusted dealer come over and deliver.

It's illegal there. I wouldn't do it. If you want to smoke a fatty without hassles, go to Cambodia or Saigon.

D Cups
02-21-11, 14:42
Hold on, GB, I wouldn't smole one in public in Saigon although it can easily be bought from just about any moto-taxi.


Weed is illegal.

I've read 2 stories in which the guy was scammed for money by the police by just looking and sniffing at the weed on the street. He didn't even buy. Never do anything on the street.

As a newbie tourist, I would definitely worry about the set up.

That being said, I was told that it's "safe" if you live there, and you have a trusted dealer come over and deliver.

It's illegal there. I wouldn't do it. If you want to smoke a fatty without hassles, go to Cambodia or Saigon.

Sammon
02-21-11, 15:54
Its got to be culture. If you walk into KTV places in Manila, you will see korean or japanese gents sitting around in a group, with a group of girls. The girl's aren't for takeout, just chat. In one place on Adriatico I had to pay p1000 for 30 minutes of time with a pretty girl. High LD price to buy her a drink. She told me she gets a cut of the LD and also p100 of the p1000 'seat-fine' (call it what you will). The ko / jap guys get one girl for each guy in their party, and sit and buy LD's for several hours, then walk out drunk and go back to their hotels, sans chica. Makes no sense to me, each gent is running up a p10, 000 tab for the evening in one joint for a few hours of fun, then not getting laid.I guess it is in their culture. Many a girls I met in AC told me that the Japanese and Koreans just want to get drunk and go to bed. If they want to do the deed it is over in a matter of minutes.

At the same time they are very good tippers and treat the girls very well. So much so that some girls only want to go with Japanese and Koreans.

Hairy Wonder
02-21-11, 18:37
I guess it is in their culture. Many a girls I met in AC told me that the Japanese and Koreans just want to get drunk and go to bed. If they want to do the deed it is over in a matter of minutes.

At the same time they are very good tippers and treat the girls very well. So much so that some girls only want to go with Japanese and Koreans. I don't know anything about the Japanese, other than what the Filipinas working in Korea told me. According to them, the Japanese were much more preferred over the Koreans.

I lived in Korea for 11 of the past 20 years. The sex industry used to be a big thing there. But things have changed greatly over the last 6 years. The government, under pressure from the US, has cracked down on the blatant sex trade, shutting down many red light districts and other types of establishments. The sex trade still exists, but at a much higher cost and in more secretive venues. This probably accounts for the larger number of Koreans in the Philippines. Not to mention the fact that Korea also enforces an anti-adultery law. Such a law cannot be enforced on the Korean men in the Philippines, as it requires the Korean police to catch the man in the act.

In the years that I lived in Korea, I was not able to gain entry to many venues that were Korean only. However, of the ones that I did get into with Korean friends and in-laws, I saw lots of money being spent by all the men there. Not many would leave with the girls they spent the money on. It's more of a status symbol for them to have pretty, young women hanging on their arms. I never understood the idea of spending all that money on a girl, and not getting anything from her though.

Puna Boi
02-21-11, 19:56
Weed is illegal.

I've read 2 stories in which the guy was scammed for money by the police by just looking and sniffing at the weed on the street. He didn't even buy. Never do anything on the street.

As a newbie tourist, I would definitely worry about the set up.

That being said, I was told that it's "safe" if you live there, and you have a trusted dealer come over and deliver.

It's illegal there. I wouldn't do it. If you want to smoke a fatty without hassles, go to Cambodia or Saigon.That's most of my concern right there. Weed is illegal everywhere I have ever lived or traveled since I started caring. Good to know about the looking and sniffing thing a nd maybe I find someone like-minded who lives there and is kind enough to deliver. Looks like I'll have to go deep into my bag of tricks. FYI I definitely wouldn't burn in public in Saigon. 4 years ago I could walk down almost any street with a cloud of blue smoke trailing me and the only notice I got was from a Marine standing outside the consulate building. Now the police are a bit smarter and it would probably cost you about $10-$20 to bribe your way out of arrest if you're familiar with the town.

Bukkake- Thanks for the advice on Station 4. Sounds like you're a veteran of the place and your review was enlightening. I'll leave it off my itinerary all the same and keep my entertainments to a personal level.

Sharka- Thanks for the bit about the girls

Puna Boi
02-21-11, 20:16
For all the good looking younger guys out there, I'd recommend trying to get the girls for free. Spend only if you have to.Amjeck- Are you recommending trying to get the Bargirls for free? Seems like a serious breach of conduct and I wouldn't really have thought to try unless you mentioned it. But why not? All things are worth trying.

As far as the Japanese customers go, they ruin a place quickly. Monster bar tabs and LDs with all the girls in attendance while barely copping a feel is normal at the KTV bars here in Hawaii. They'll spend $1000 on 5 bottles of champagne and never even think about going to the private rooms where the girls can show appreciation for the big spender. Their tendency is to go to massage parlor if they want some squish and to spend the big $$ keeping the hot girls around them in public. Strange dudes and they will give the girls all kinds of bad expectations.

GreenBud
02-21-11, 21:10
Hold on, GB, I wouldn't smole one in public in Saigon although it can easily be bought from just about any moto-taxi.There's open smoking in the Pham Ngu Lao area (backpacker central).

In Vietnam, it depends on the area. I was told that it's okay in Saigon (verified) and Hanoi. Over there, the police care more about the hard drugs.

FurryFriend
02-23-11, 08:09
The government, under pressure from the US, has cracked down on the blatant sex trade, shutting down many red light districts and other types of establishments.That's nonsense, my friend.

The US does not have the influence in South Korea to shut down their red light districts. The US can't even shut down red light districts right across its borders in Tijuana!

Why would the US care about the sex trade in South Korea and not in Thailand or the Philippines?

The truth is, the Korean sex trade has declined (and gotten more expensive) in the last two decades simply because, with its fast-growing economy, their women don't have to resort to prostitution.

Uncle Goober
02-23-11, 09:47
That's nonsense, my friend.

Why would the US care about the sex trade in. The Philippines? Sorry, FF, but you have the wrong end of the stick.

The reality is that single young pinays have been getting a hard time at immigration in PI when trying to leave PI during recent weeks.

The reason: PI is bowing to USA pressure to put a curb on trafficking of women for prositution.

That is not, I accept, closing down red light districts within their own borders, but it is a small step down that same slippery slope.

Cheers.

Psdai
02-23-11, 17:52
Sorry, FF, but you have the wrong end of the stick.

The reality is that single young pinays have been getting a hard time at immigration in PI when trying to leave PI during recent weeks. I can attest to this happening but not the reason behind it.

Just 3 weeks ago my girlfriend and her policewomen friend were trying to leave on a bought and paid for tour package to Hong Kong for a week. After being harrased at the immigration gate for the better part of an hour they were finally allowed to pass and proceed to the gate. They thought they were free to go and then just before the boarding procedures began the immigration officals came back and pulled them in once more. They ended up missing their flight and not making the tour.

My girl believes they were just trying to extort money from them but who knows.

Fast Eddie 48
02-24-11, 00:24
I can attest to this happening but not the reason behind it.

Just 3 weeks ago my girlfriend and her policewomen friend were trying to leave on a bought and paid for tour package to Hong Kong for a week. After being harrased at the immigration gate for the better part of an hour they were finally allowed to pass and proceed to the gate. They thought they were free to go and then just before the boarding procedures began the immigration officals came back and pulled them in once more. They ended up missing their flight and not making the tour.

My girl believes they were just trying to extort money from them but who knows.To Psai

What is the reason your girlfriend is stop there must be something wrong for them to stop you, I understand the philippine immgration is the very smart people but don't think they will extort money at the airport in front of everyone.

Fast Eddie 48

Gangles
02-24-11, 01:51
Has anyone had experience of Jumping Jack's bar.

It is at the end of the street that runs along side the Orchid Resort, off Fields.

It is a small place, open 24 hours. Open bar, no dancers. Provides girls for ST in upstairs rooms for 700 pesos, girl and room included.

I don't know about LT.

My gf last night told me that she works there, not a bargirl.

Gangles

X Man
02-24-11, 03:37
Well, I've seen groups of Asians barfine half the bar. Nevertheless, there are many reasons for what you describe below. Here is just one:

They are somehow associated by business and this was an afterwork party to build rapport. This type of business + drink is pretty common in East Asia. In fact, the entire tab may have been put on someone's expense account. As for taking a gal, I guess all your colleagues would know what you were doing, so it could be risky if one is somehow otherwise attached. And if they are living in Philippines, they might have a wife or gf to go home to.


Its got to be culture. If you walk into KTV places in Manila, you will see korean or japanese gents sitting around in a group, with a group of girls. The girl's aren't for takeout, just chat. In one place on Adriatico I had to pay p1000 for 30 minutes of time with a pretty girl. High LD price to buy her a drink. She told me she gets a cut of the LD and also p100 of the p1000 'seat-fine' (call it what you will). The ko / jap guys get one girl for each guy in their party, and sit and buy LD's for several hours, then walk out drunk and go back to their hotels, sans chica. Makes no sense to me, each gent is running up a p10, 000 tab for the evening in one joint for a few hours of fun, then not getting laid.

Mayntain
02-24-11, 04:22
I was barhopping in Lapasha when my waitress friend introduced me to a friend of her in civies that stop to say Hi to her. She's an ex-bartender from Forbidden city and wanted to barhop there. But I told her I was enjoyng the scenery at Lapasha, and didn want to leave at the moment. So she said its no obligation from me, and she would buy her own drinks. I sald ok, lets bounce. So we go there and work our way upstairs because she wanted to shoot pool and say Hello, to friends. I order SM and so did she. So we play a little pool, watch some cute dancers and bullshit (damn she can gab). About near 3am the waitress comes with the chit for P200! I pull out P100 and my friend pulls out P100 from her purse. Then I noticed the waitress hands back the P100 to my friend and ask me for the other P100, they did this 2 times back and forth. They talk in tagalog, then I ask whats the problem. She say my friend say you foreighner and you should buy my drink. WTF! Its none of her gotdamn bizness who pays for a drink! Then to top it off she wanted a tip with a bad attitude. I was getting annoyed by then because she standing over me damn near demanding I pay. I reach in my pocket and drop some pesos in her hand, and she looked at it like it wasn't enough. I said look. I BOUGHT ONE BEER AND I'm PAYING FOR ONE BEER! My friend saw that I was pissed now and she knew the night was fucked because I was ready to go then. Bottom line is. I like forbidden City for the cuties there, but I won't be going upstairs anymore! Waitress was pagnit anyway!

Hairy Wonder
02-24-11, 04:29
That's nonsense, my friend.

The US does not have the influence in South Korea to shut down their red light districts. The US can't even shut down red light districts right across its borders in Tijuana!

Why would the US care about the sex trade in South Korea and not in Thailand or the Philippines?

The truth is, the Korean sex trade has declined (and gotten more expensive) in the last two decades simply because, with its fast-growing economy, their women don't have to resort to prostitution. Much as I would like to agree with you, I don't. I never said that the US was shutting down the sex trade in Korea, rather it was putting pressure on the Korean government to shut it down. The reason for doing this in Korea, and not in Thailand or the Philippines, is that there are 30, 000+ American military members in Korea. The same cannot be said for these other mongering locales. But fear not, as Uncle Goober pointed out, Uncle Sam will target all mongering areas and attempt to shut down our hobby under the guise of stopping "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)." The US may not have any real power to force other countries to do things, but they do a great job of threatening, or black mailing those countries to get their "Holier than thou" way.

If you still have any doubt about the US involvement in the shut down of P4P in Korea, think about this. Why did the time of the Korean crack down on prostitution coincide with the US Military's issuance of their "zero tolerance policy on prostitution"? And why was it that the Korean authorities concentrated on busting foreigners more than they did on their own countrymen?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This is mine.

HW

Rocksoff
02-24-11, 04:30
The reality is that single young pinays have been getting a hard time at immigration in PI when trying to leave PI during recent weeks.I've been hearing the same story from a girl I know. We were planning to meet in Manila, but now she doesn't want to go. As she puts it very succintly: "u knw mnl vry clever n0w nd nid bribe."

Tally Wacker
02-24-11, 04:32
I BOUGHT ONE BEER AND I'm PAYING FOR ONE BEER! My friend saw that I was pissed now and she knew the night was fucked because I was ready to go then. Bottom line is. I like forbidden City for the cuties there, but I won't be going upstairs anymore! Waitress was pagnit anyway!Thats sucks you had some fun then got stiffed for a $1.

GreenBud
02-24-11, 06:35
I've been hearing the same story from a girl I know. We were planning to meet in Manila, but now she doesn't want to go. As she puts it very succintly: "u knw mnl vry clever n0w nd nid bribe."Are you sure she wasn't trying to scam you for an extra tip? She'll be going via the domestic terminal.

I haven't seen immigration scamming locals at the international airport. I'm assuming it will be the same in the domestic terminal.

Cherry2000
02-24-11, 06:41
Thats sucks you had some fun then got stiffed for a $1.Stop living in the 80's.

100Pesos is $2. 28 now.

Hehehehehe.

My first few trips back in 2000 I was all like WOW, its soooooooo fukkn cheap (and it still is)

Now I understand how the tourists (and Asians) are putting the pressure up on local prices. Before long yo will be having to state that you are a westerner, and not paying Asian Bullshite Prices.

(Hence my not visiting the Asian owned / run bars anymore)

Rocksoff
02-24-11, 07:47
Are you sure she wasn't trying to scam you for an extra tip? She'll be going via the domestic terminal.She's not working in the Phils.

X Man
02-24-11, 09:36
Interesting, because I have a Filipina friend, now in Europe, telling me that her gf in PHil warned her that Phil is NOW dangerous. I guess the Internet sensationalizes things a bit, but also helps out too. It seems like the couple in Cebu arrested for murder are going to be cleared. I have to think that a big part of this was the bad publicity.

X.


She's not working in the Phils.

Psdai
02-24-11, 11:56
To Psai

What is the reason your girlfriend is stop there must be something wrong for them to stop you, I understand the philippine immgration is the very smart people but don't think they will extort money at the airport in front of everyone.

Fast Eddie 48Eddie,

She and her friend travel internationally fairly often so they definately know what paperwork is required and always have it in order before heading to the airport. Given her past track record of successful travel and her statement to me (as well as from her police woman friend) that they wanted money to let them go, I believe it. Espically since I still get to listen to her complain about it to this day. She was royally pissed off about it.

I have heard similar stores of incidents happening at the Manila airport but this happened to them at Clark.

Boricua
02-24-11, 21:02
This may or may not have come up before, but does anyone know of a gym in AC where one can work out?

Sammon
02-24-11, 22:10
This may or may not have come up before, but does anyone know of a gym in AC where one can work out?You must be joking. After many horizontal workouts in AC who needs a GYM?

I hardly have the strenghth to wake up to service the lady in the morning.

Robbaf
02-24-11, 22:55
Best to have the Vitamins in hand BEFORE arriving to AC. Heard many fakes out there in AC and also heard many are real but expired for some times but repacked into newer boxes.

Also, as some have suggested, avoid the street vendors if possible.

FZYou can get good V and C and an even better vitamin called Black Ant in AC and you will have no worries. If you need help PM me and I will tell you where to go. I do not sell or even have a reason to promote, but I found it by accident.

Black Ant is better then V and C IMHO.

Robb

Robbaf
02-24-11, 22:58
I was barhopping in Lapasha when my waitress friend introduced me to a friend of her in civies that stop to say Hi to her. She's an ex-bartender from Forbidden city and wanted to barhop there. But I told her I was enjoyng the scenery at Lapasha, and didn want to leave at the moment. So she said its no obligation from me, and she would buy her own drinks. I sald ok, lets bounce. So we go there and work our way upstairs because she wanted to shoot pool and say Hello, to friends. I order SM and so did she. So we play a little pool, watch some cute dancers and bullshit (damn she can gab). About near 3am the waitress comes with the chit for P200! I pull out P100 and my friend pulls out P100 from her purse. Then I noticed the waitress hands back the P100 to my friend and ask me for the other P100, they did this 2 times back and forth. They talk in tagalog, then I ask whats the problem. She say my friend say you foreighner and you should buy my drink. WTF! Its none of her gotdamn bizness who pays for a drink! Then to top it off she wanted a tip with a bad attitude. I was getting annoyed by then because she standing over me damn near demanding I pay. I reach in my pocket and drop some pesos in her hand, and she looked at it like it wasn't enough. I said look. I BOUGHT ONE BEER AND I'm PAYING FOR ONE BEER! My friend saw that I was pissed now and she knew the night was fucked because I was ready to go then. Bottom line is. I like forbidden City for the cuties there, but I won't be going upstairs anymore! Waitress was pagnit anyway!One of the worst bar in AC. In my visits the girls on stage sit on the edge of the stage during breaks and block the dancers from view. The layout of the seats suck and the attitude of the staff sucks even worst.

Robb

Robbaf
02-24-11, 23:08
Of course its not only Koreans who do it. I know for a fact because I along with a friend did it. We bar fined girls we wanted for the night and we also short time 2 of their friends. So the 8 of us went to sky tracks. Drank, danced and partied. At the end we send the friends back to the bar and we both had our LT fines who spent the night. So after reading this I guess we are guilty too. But when you out celebrating. And just get laid isn't the only mission in your night. And fun and pariying is. Its feasible. Its just a different mindset.

Its no different the guys who will only stay in 4 star Hotels or close to that level versus guys who only need the basics in there rooms. Well fewer and fewer Basic only hotels are being built and more and more upscale Hotels are. So economics of AC is going up all around. Theres no stopping it. That is because most of the basic hotel were built years ago and have never been update or truly cleaned. I heard about guys getting sick in AC and I wonder how much is the hotel they choose. Mold, mildew and dirty mattresses. Also, I have read many reports on AC boards about theft in budget hotels. One guy reported he came back to his hotel late with his wife of the night and did not realize he was at the wrong door and his key opened the wrong room.

One of my first 14 day stays I choose a budget hotel and I got food poison eating in the restaurant (only food I ate) and I learned my lesson.

Robb

Tally Wacker
02-25-11, 00:13
This may or may not have come up before, but does anyone know of a gym in AC where one can work out?The Lewis Grand Hotel has a workout room with free weights and other quipment. Its out by the pool area and its not very big but it was useful for a quick workout before a swim. I remember one guest there had his own bottle of Jack Daniels behind the bar and would take a couple shots and smoke cigarettes just before going into exercise. I thought that was funny.

Tally Wacker
02-25-11, 00:22
This may or may not have come up before, but does anyone know of a gym in AC where one can work out?Another idea. If your not staying at Lewis Grand you can use the pool and workout room for free if you order an iced tea or something from the outside bar.

Phantomtiger2
02-25-11, 00:53
Just return from 3 days in AC with another travel buddy. He is a member of this board but wishes not to be named (yet)

First thing I notice is not as many cuties this time around as previous trips. Still some here and there but takes a little more time than before finding what I like. My friend is more picky so he had more complaints than some on this board about quality, although I had to agree with about 90% of his complaints about quality and attitudes from some of our gals.

2nd thing I notice is more and more of the Fields bars have upped their BF prices. Gone are the 1500p BF and more and more have raised to about 1800p or so.

The bars at Perimeter are not yet affected by the recent price increases so now perimeter bars seem much better value than before. But selection in Perimeter is still more limited but still something to consider.

Seems more police patrols than before but looked at news and not more crime so not sure why the extra police. Or could look at it this way instead, because more police patrol then less crime to report-maybe as this is just a thought.

Decided to start at perimeter with my buddy 1st then work our way back to Fields (as the prices are cheaper during happy hours).

Stargate: nothing there to keep us from staying. We walked in and didn't see anything but older / fatter ones, so didn't bother to stay and order a beer.

Next went to After Schools, not always my favorite but my buddy couldn't resist the title of this bar. Went in and saw the usual gals on stage dressed in school outfits and some had white socks and sneakers. Gals were ok in looks but the outfits turned on my buddy so had to stay for a few beers. We ask 2 gals over to join us and they sat on our laps as we order a LD for them.

Chatty gals and my gal sat and wiggle her ass on my shaft to get it hard (hint hint to BF her). But it was still to early to decide so told her I might come back later. My buddy couldn't resist and BF her gal right there after his 1 beer and LD. He smiled at me and I knew it meant he was going to the hotel with his choice. I smiled back and said go ahead and have fun and see you in the morning for breakfast.

I stayed for another round of beer and LD and more chatting with my gal before leaving for Fields.

Went to One eye Wench in Fields as I have not been for very long time. The overall quality had improved from 3 old grannies (last time visited) to just one old grannie and several younger staff, including 1-2 cuter waitress. Decided it was ok place for me to spent some time. Sat down with my cute waitress and order a beer. Was about to order a LD for my waitress but lucky ask her 1st and she said was a virgin =cherry gals (damn as she was very cute). She said would like to stay the nite with me but only HJ. I said only HJ and not even a BJ? No, she said as it was also a cherry mouth-have to admit always a 1st time for hearing everything.

She wanted to know it this would be ok and I said "Hell NO", and added do you ever get any BF at all? And she said all the time. I said no way and she said some of the Koreans have no problems BF her for just her HJ skills and to be able to sleep next to her and they will also tip her well for this.

Well, say no more. I finish my beer quickly and left.

Went to Club Lancelot next and saw a few potentials. Once again sat down and order a beer. Saw one that was ok by my eyes (even after 5 beers) and ask her down from stage. Ask the usual questions 1st before ordering LD, any early morning clinic, period, you cherry girl etc etc. All answers were NO

So sat down and order her a regular LD. Turns out not to be much of a talker, unlike all the other chatty ones this nite. Couldn't decide if she was not really into me or just shy. Didn't want to take a chance so after she finish her drink I said thank you and pointed at another gal who had smiled at me several times while I was sitting there.

Turns out she was more friendly and chatty so I BF her as it was now close to 11pm (damn, where did the time go. Only thought it was 930 or at latest maybe 10pm).

Back in the hotel she was not a real performer. Not what I call a starfish but not a performer. Friendly though but also not as chatty as in the bar. Finish 1st round and she wanted to watch some TV. OK as I went in to clean up and brush teeth etc. Came out and she was asleep already, that was quick.

I didn't feel like 2nd round right away so slept next to her and plan to bonk her in a few hours in middle of nite.

More tired than I thought as I woke up and she was already getting dressed. Looked at watch and it was 8:30am. I said stay for morning round but insist she needs to leave. I also insist she stay as we agree to 10am leaving. She said didn't remember the time limit last nite and thought I said 9am, but I pointed to time now only 830 so have time but again more excuses. I knew it was pointless as will continue back and forth until 9am or even 10am.

I let her go but at the door she said what about my tip. I said you are kidding right? And she said need tip for trike money home. I said I usually give that to all my gals I was happy with but not you so I said goodbye and closed the door.

Called my buddy to see if he was up for some breakfast but turns out he was already eating breakfast with his gal from last nite. I ask where he was eating and got dressed and went out to join them.

My buddy was happy with his gal so he plan to be a faithful boyfriend and BF his gal for another 2 nites. Oh well, guess I'll wing it alone and barhop and shop and prowl again tonite after dinner like a "tiger" was meant to do.

PT

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Phantomtiger2
02-25-11, 00:56
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Follow up report:

I've been reading about all the arguments on % of runners and such.

Let me tell you from my personal experiences that Runner are on the rise. This last trip, I had a runner from Lost in Asia (a perimeter bar). She answered all my questions correctly and even had nice eye contact, and chemistry at the bar but once the 1st round with her was over in the hotel that was the end of that.

My odds for runners so far from my trips to AC seems to be about 1 in 10 up to 2 years ago (10%) and now the odd have gone up a little more recently.

On my 3 nites here, I've had 1 runner. 1 non-performer and 1 very GFF.

PT

Ekspat
02-25-11, 05:27
100Pesos is $2. 28 now.

Hehehehehe. OMG. 2.28$ down the drain?

I guess that spoils the whole trip, what a disaster!

Cheers!

Uncle Goober
02-25-11, 05:33
her statement to me (as well as from her police woman friend) that they wanted money to let them go, I believe it.PSD.

Thanks for your feed back.

The incidents that I have heard about were as follows: (I) one was a WG going to visit a friend in Thailand for a holiday, (ii) one was a WG coming to work in HK on an entertainers visa issued in HK, (iii) two were coming here to work as "tourist" girls in the discos, and (iv) one was a family friend coming to visit us here in HK. They were travelling on a mixture of airlines and from both Clark and Manila.

None were asked for bribes. It was just PI Immigration being incredibly tough. (And PAL seems to be toughest on the passengers as well.)

Cheers.

Fast Eddie 48
02-25-11, 05:38
That is because most of the basic hotel were built years ago and have never been update or truly cleaned. I heard about guys getting sick in AC and I wonder how much is the hotel they choose. Mold, mildew and dirty mattresses. Also, I have read many reports on AC boards about theft in budget hotels. One guy reported he came back to his hotel late with his wife of the night and did not realize he was at the wrong door and his key opened the wrong room.

One of my first 14 day stays I choose a budget hotel and I got food poison eating in the restaurant (only food I ate) and I learned my lesson.

RobbTo Robbaf,

What is the name of the Hotel so us ISG member don't make the same mistake, many budget hotel don't spend any money to remodel and upkeep their room they just open a new one and sell the old hotel cheap.

Fast Eddie 48

Boricua
02-25-11, 06:12
I guess that is the whole point of trying to stay in shape is so that you can handle the "horizontal workouts", then function the next day a move on to the next evenings "horizontal workouts". .


You must be joking. After many horizontal workouts in AC who needs a GYM?

I hardly have the strenghth to wake up to service the lady in the morning.

Ekspat
02-25-11, 06:33
Okay, live from AC. Let's call it the facts.

5 nights. 5 ST always in the afternoon, From Sunshine, Miss Molly or so, Ponytails. Nothing to complain about that at all. All great.

3 LT for the night, no runner so far. Usually I go for the girls of the second row, not so much for the stunners. Still great body, but face lets say 7. 5 or so. Two LT from Valhalla and Eager Beaver respectively, excellent performance.

Then I changed my tactics once and bf'ed a 9/10 from Club Asia. Guess what, no runner but lousy BJ and OMG, what a dead fish! She wanted to stay in room, but I kicked her out at 2am with 100ps for the trike. Okay, now someone might complain, why 100ps tip for a non-performer, but I do not want to have a good looking girl walking down that dark street near LGH at 2am.

Fine, now lets call it my findings.

Sure, AC has changed a lot in the past decade, but every other place has changed too, eg. Phnom Penh dramatically, Pattaya less changes IMO. Prices have gone up but in every other place as well. Just fair, my salary has gone up also with the years. So what?

Okay, the good old times. Years ago, maybe around 2004, I was barhopping with a buddy. He sat down in a bar and had a beer and checked the stage. In case he liked a girl, he called mamasan, pointed to the girl and said "change clothes". She went back, did it and off they went straight to hotel, no dining, no barhopping, not even a LD. And of course, no runner and at least average performance. Not my style, but each folk is different. Nowadays it's unbelievable how many guys do barhopping or dining with their girls. Like it or not.

AC is still a great place for fun, it has just become more difficult to find the girl you have good chemistry with for good bumbum. The girls see themselves not more that much as sex workers, more as entertainers, maybe because of the arrival of the Koreans, I don't know. Safety, during all my LT's, I always had notebook, digicam, wallet, more or less openly in the room, not in safety box. Nothing happened for years.

Just MHO and impressions.

Enjoy AC!

Ekspat
02-25-11, 08:43
5 ST always in the afternoon, from Sunshine, Miss Molly or so, Ponytails.It's Miss Magic.

Ekspat
02-25-11, 09:08
Currently the most played song in the bars, great for dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjljBNTLs4

Enjoy

Robbaf
02-25-11, 22:28
To Robbaf,

What is the name of the Hotel so us ISG member don't make the same mistake, many budget hotel don't spend any money to remodel and upkeep their room they just open a new one and sell the old hotel cheap.

Fast Eddie 48The Dollhouse Hotel.

Robb

Robbaf
02-25-11, 22:29
barmanager charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on own girlfriend.

friday, february 25 an american bar-manager of dirty duck bar situated on fields avenue known as 'mike' has been charged for [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) his own girlfriend yesterday.

the two allegedly met each other on the internet and met up in a room at the lewis grand hotel when the suspect and the unidentified 19-year old had sex against the victim's will.

a large hoard of the victim's family members including a family member in the air force showed up at police station 4 to file the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) confirmed by examination.

medical examination confirmed that the victim was indeed raped. the us embassy has already been notified of the case and members of the embassy have investigated the situation at station 4.

compensation negotiations reach dead end.

the case had been filed after the suspect could not agree with the financial compensation of over half a million pesos that was demanded by the victim's family to drop the case. the suspect has been put under continuous detention until he is transfered to the city jail.

http://www.angelescity.com/index.php?newsid=719

Freezone
02-26-11, 00:28
Just return from 3 days in AC with another travel buddy. He is a member of this board but wishes not to be named (yet)

First thing I notice is not as many cuties this time around as previous trips. Still some here and there but takes a little more time than before finding what I like. My friend is more picky so he had more complaints than some on this board about quality, although I had to agree with about 90% of his complaints about quality and attitudes from some of our gals.

2nd thing I notice is more and more of the Fields bars have upped their BF prices. Gone are the 1500p BF and more and more have raised to about 1800p or so.

The bars at Perimeter are not yet affected by the recent price increases so now perimeter bars seem much better value than before. But selection in Perimeter is still more limited but still something to consider.

Seems more police patrols than before but looked at news and not more crime so not sure why the extra police. Or could look at it this way instead, because more police patrol then less crime to report-maybe as this is just a thought.

Decided to start at perimeter with my buddy 1st then work our way back to Fields (as the prices are cheaper during happy hours).

Stargate: nothing there to keep us from staying. We walked in and didn't see anything but older / fatter ones, so didn't bother to stay and order a beer.

Next went to After Schools, not always my favorite but my buddy couldn't resist the title of this bar. Went in and saw the usual gals on stage dressed in school outfits and some had white socks and sneakers. Gals were ok in looks but the outfits turned on my buddy so had to stay for a few beers. We ask 2 gals over to join us and they sat on our laps as we order a LD for them.

Chatty gals and my gal sat and wiggle her ass on my shaft to get it hard (hint hint to BF her). But it was still to early to decide so told her I might come back later. My buddy couldn't resist and BF her gal right there after his 1 beer and LD. He smiled at me and I knew it meant he was going to the hotel with his choice. I smiled back and said go ahead and have fun and see you in the morning for breakfast.

I stayed for another round of beer and LD and more chatting with my gal before leaving for Fields.

Went to One eye Wench in Fields as I have not been for very long time. The overall quality had improved from 3 old grannies (last time visited) to just one old grannie and several younger staff, including 1-2 cuter waitress. Decided it was ok place for me to spent some time. Sat down with my cute waitress and order a beer. Was about to order a LD for my waitress but lucky ask her 1st and she said was a virgin =cherry gals (damn as she was very cute). She said would like to stay the nite with me but only HJ. I said only HJ and not even a BJ? No, she said as it was also a cherry mouth-have to admit always a 1st time for hearing everything.

She wanted to know it this would be ok and I said "Hell NO", and added do you ever get any BF at all? And she said all the time. I said no way and she said some of the Koreans have no problems BF her for just her HJ skills and to be able to sleep next to her and they will also tip her well for this.

Well, say no more. I finish my beer quickly and left.

Went to Club Lancelot next and saw a few potentials. Once again sat down and order a beer. Saw one that was ok by my eyes (even after 5 beers) and ask her down from stage. Ask the usual questions 1st before ordering LD, any early morning clinic, period, you cherry girl etc etc. All answers were NO

So sat down and order her a regular LD. Turns out not to be much of a talker, unlike all the other chatty ones this nite. Couldn't decide if she was not really into me or just shy. Didn't want to take a chance so after she finish her drink I said thank you and pointed at another gal who had smiled at me several times while I was sitting there.

Turns out she was more friendly and chatty so I BF her as it was now close to 11pm (damn, where did the time go. Only thought it was 930 or at latest maybe 10pm).

Back in the hotel she was not a real performer. Not what I call a starfish but not a performer. Friendly though but also not as chatty as in the bar. Finish 1st round and she wanted to watch some TV. OK as I went in to clean up and brush teeth etc. Came out and she was asleep already, that was quick.

I didn't feel like 2nd round right away so slept next to her and plan to bonk her in a few hours in middle of nite.

More tired than I thought as I woke up and she was already getting dressed. Looked at watch and it was 8:30am. I said stay for morning round but insist she needs to leave. I also insist she stay as we agree to 10am leaving. She said didn't remember the time limit last nite and thought I said 9am, but I pointed to time now only 830 so have time but again more excuses. I knew it was pointless as will continue back and forth until 9am or even 10am.

I let her go but at the door she said what about my tip. I said you are kidding right? And she said need tip for trike money home. I said I usually give that to all my gals I was happy with but not you so I said goodbye and closed the door.

Called my buddy to see if he was up for some breakfast but turns out he was already eating breakfast with his gal from last nite. I ask where he was eating and got dressed and went out to join them.

My buddy was happy with his gal so he plan to be a faithful boyfriend and BF his gal for another 2 nites. Oh well, guess I'll wing it alone and barhop and shop and prowl again tonite after dinner like a "tiger" was meant to do.

PT

-Great FR. Keep them cumming as I enjoy a good read.

And thanks for the heads up update on Lost in Asia as I've had a runner from there myself last year.

FZ

Freezone
02-26-11, 00:30
You can get good V and C and an even better vitamin called Black Ant in AC and you will have no worries. If you need help PM me and I will tell you where to go. I do not sell or even have a reason to promote, but I found it by accident.

Black Ant is better then V and C IMHO.

RobbThanks Robb. Appreciate the assist. Drop you a line nex time I plan to be in AC.

Just one question though, what is Black Ant? Is it a herb or a drug?

Thanks.

FZ

Edward M
02-26-11, 03:08
barmanager charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on own girlfriend.

friday, february 25 an american bar-manager of dirty duck bar situated on fields avenue known as 'mike' has been charged for [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) his own girlfriend yesterday.

the two allegedly met each other on the internet and met up in a room at the lewis grand hotel when the suspect and the unidentified 19-year old had sex against the victim's will. poor journalism. was it his girlfriend or someone he just met up with in a hotel room?

Python75
02-26-11, 03:22
Poor journalism. Was it his girlfriend or someone he just met up with in a hotel room?It does actually say that they met on the internet. Many girls will believe that they are in a bf / gf relationship prior to meeting in person. So no, not bad journalism.

Sammon
02-26-11, 04:33
It does actually say that they met on the internet. Many girls will believe that they are in a bf / gf relationship prior to meeting in person. So no, not bad journalism.Yes, It is a Philippine phenomenon. Once you chat with them they start calling honey, dear etc.

Once I asked a girl about why she is calling me honey when we have never met? She said she is in love with me and cannot wait to meet me.

I guess these women will say anything to get out of their poverty.

Chocha Monger
02-26-11, 04:35
barmanager charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on own girlfriend.

friday, february 25 an american bar-manager of dirty duck bar situated on fields avenue known as 'mike' has been charged for [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) his own girlfriend yesterday.

the two allegedly met each other on the internet and met up in a room at the lewis grand hotel when the suspect and the unidentified 19-year old had sex against the victim's will.

a large hoard of the victim's family members including a family member in the air force showed up at police station 4 to file the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) confirmed by examination.

medical examination confirmed that the victim was indeed raped. the us embassy has already been notified of the case and members of the embassy have investigated the situation at station 4.

compensation negotiations reach dead end.

the case had been filed after the suspect could not agree with the financial compensation of over half a million pesos that was demanded by the victim's family to drop the case. the suspect has been put under continuous detention until he is transfered to the city jail.

http://www.angelescity.com/index.php?newsid=719sometimes free pussy is the most expensive kind. a bar manager should have known that but cherry puday drew him into the darkness like lord sauron's one ring.

Amjeck
02-26-11, 07:34
barmanager charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on own girlfriend.

friday, february 25 an american bar-manager of dirty duck bar situated on fields avenue known as 'mike' has been charged for [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) his own girlfriend yesterday.

the two allegedly met each other on the internet and met up in a room at the lewis grand hotel when the suspect and the unidentified 19-year old had sex against the victim's will. do you guys really believe this? does a manager of a whoer house need to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a girl? it sounds like a set up to me.

Robbaf
02-26-11, 09:10
Thanks Robb. Appreciate the assist. Drop you a line nex time I plan to be in AC.

Just one question though, what is Black Ant? Is it a herb or a drug?

Thanks.

FZIt is a herb. Google and get some good info.

Robb

Robbaf
02-26-11, 09:17
do you guys really believe this? does a manager of a whoer house need to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a girl? it sounds like a set up to me.yes, it sounds like a set up, so this is just another warning to guys who brag about not pay for barfines and meeting girls online and street walkers. now days with the internet and bamboo network more and more girls are hearing about these set up's for money, so it is monger beware.

the dirty duck was owned by the lewis grand group, but i heard he sold it after the raids, don't know if it is true.

robb

Asia Smiles
02-26-11, 14:24
This may or may not have come up before, but does anyone know of a gym in AC where one can work out?There are two good decent gyms near Fields. One is Fitness Connection across the street from the PAGOR casino. The other is AC-1 located walking distance from the last stop on the Jeepny going towards Friendship Hwy. You can buy daily, weekly, monthly, and full membership at both.

The gym in the Lewis Grand suck IMHO because there is no air conditioning and the equipment is poorly maintained.

Google gyms in angeles city, pampanga for details.

Amjeck
02-26-11, 15:49
Yes, it sounds like a set up, so this is just another warning to guys who brag about not pay for barfines and meeting girls online and street walkers.Yah, I was hit up by a young streetwalker in makati and was a bit afraid it could be a set up. There were 3 in total, the older sister, the friend and the younger one. They said 2 will go in the room and one will wait in the cr while fucking takes place. I said "yah right, now way, see ya later"

Ed Rome
02-27-11, 02:10
I am arriving in Angeles City March 2. I want to know where I can find real Cialis. I know not to get anything like that on the street. I need the address of drug stores that will have. 24 hours stores if possible. Its my first time to AC, went to Cebu City last years and I want to enjoy a hard earned vacation.

Happy hunting Guys!

Thank you.

Cherry2000
02-27-11, 02:18
barmanager charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on own girlfriend.

http://www.angelescity.com/index.php?newsid=719people, i can't stress enough how easy it is to get setup in the philippines.

i've been going to ac since 2000 and have never ever fucked a street walker or someone from the internet.

a) street girls are street girls probably because they can't pass a hygiene test to work in one of the bars or are banned from working in them altogether. there is always a good reason for them not being in a bar (few exceptions but if you don't live there then see b) below)

b) you are in angeles city. pay your fukking $25. 00 barfine and save yourself thousands in the long run. if your a cheap ass charlie then give the bar girls your number and have them call you after work.

my 2c worth (not including tip) lol

Fast Eddie 48
02-27-11, 06:35
I am arriving in Angeles City March 2. I want to know where I can find real Cialis. I know not to get anything like that on the street. I need the address of drug stores that will have. 24 hours stores if possible. Its my first time to AC, went to Cebu City last years and I want to enjoy a hard earned vacation.

Happy hunting Guys!

Thank you. To Ed,

You can go to mecury pharmacy to get the real stuff but they are very expensive, cost less in Thailand or Hong kong almost the same cost as in the US no papaer needed, yes the fake stuff is all over the st and very cheap.

Fast Eddie 48

Phantomtiger2
02-28-11, 00:15
sometimes free pussy is the most expensive kind. a bar manager should have known that but cherry puday drew him into the darkness like lord sauron's one ring.sounds like a setup to me as i read the details.

1) they were meeting inside his hotel room in ac- the capital of sin, so what does she think was going to happen in there?

2) everyone was willing to forgive and forget with some money-yeah, sounds like a very upset family to me. if it was my child who was raped, no money in the world will save his ass.

3) mike did not give in even as he was given a way out of this mess (paying the scammers) , so he is sticking to his principles of being an innocent man-but sadly, i'm afraid this could cost him in the end. i wish him luck.

4) being a bar owner and seeing paid pussy all day / nite, he may have felt the urge to date someone he thought was outside of all this p4p. it's a natural reaction i think but again this will haunt him in the end.

strictly imo.

pt

Poopbunny
02-28-11, 07:00
Almost any pharmacy will have them and 'most' don't require a script.

The Vitamin C on the street, though fake, would probably have the correct active ingredient and work. Will cost a fraction of the pharmacy ones depending on your bargaining skill.


I am arriving in Angeles City March 2. I want to know where I can find real Cialis. I know not to get anything like that on the street. I need the address of drug stores that will have. 24 hours stores if possible. Its my first time to AC, went to Cebu City last years and I want to enjoy a hard earned vacation.

Happy hunting Guys!

Thank you.

X Man
02-28-11, 07:39
yep, support the local poor people by buying something from them. as for certain enhancing aspirins, if you have doubts, buy the miniumum and also get the guy's connection. if you think it works, buy from him again. if you think he sold you bunk, send us a message with all the details.

if you just want to spew bs, tell us once again about how these guys sell only defective products.

thanks poppybunny. 250 a box of four c vitamins is good.


almost any pharmacy will have them and 'most' don't require a script.

the vitamin c on the street, though fake, would probably have the correct active ingredient and work. will cost a fraction of the pharmacy ones depending on your bargaining skill.

Robbaf
02-28-11, 21:51
fromharry thehorse.

"american arrested for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). american [name(s) deleted by admin] was arrested on friday. 25 feb for allegedly [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) one [name(s) deleted by admin]. 18 years old. [name(s) deleted by admin] is a student living at 531 san isidro, masantol, philippines. [name(s) deleted by admin] was arraigned and held at station four but he complained of chest pains and was taken to dee hwa liong hospital where he was admitted by a doctor for further observation. he is under constant guard by the police.

the complaint submitted by the victim alleges that "[name(s) deleted by admin], upon entering the room at the lewis grand immediately started undressing her despite her protests, forced her to the bed at which time she told him she was having her monthly period and to stop. but he used force to accomplish his carnal desire and inserted his penis to her vagina and sexually abused her." a hospital examination confirmed that a recent sexual act had taken place.

supposedly [name(s) deleted by admin] met [name(s) deleted by admin] through the website "filipina heart" 7 months ago and used the alias name given above. the attorney for the complainant is none other than the well known willie rivera.

the reason that [name(s) deleted by admin] was not transferred to the city jail is because the case had not been raffled to a particular judge yet. once he is released from hospital he will be returned to station four until the processing for admittance to the city jail has been completed.

those are the facts as they stand now. i have been informed that a friend of [name(s) deleted by admin] indicated that [name(s) deleted by admin] had said he had already met the girl three times before and had sex with her. it has also been rumored that a monetary settlement was asked for but the amount was quite exorbitant. as it stands now, the charge stands and [name(s) deleted by admin] will have to have his day in court to prove his innocence, unless the charges are dropped by the complainant. it will be interesting to see which way this case goes"

robb

editor's note: this report was edited to remove the names of persons who were arrested from the report.

i want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the names of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.

since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs.

thanks!

Fast Eddie 48
03-01-11, 05:59
To Robb,

I don't understand the point of posting michael home adress here for everyone to see, I am sure you don't want other people post your adress here when your ass is in Jail, I don't know the guy but this is just common courtesy.

Fast Eddie 48

Robbaf
03-01-11, 09:47
To Robb,

I don't understand the point of posting michael home adress here for everyone to see, I am sure you don't want other people post your adress here when your ass is in Jail, I don't know the guy but this is just common courtesy.

Fast Eddie 48Sorry that came off the website of "Harrythehorse" I just cut and pasted.

http://www.harrythehorse.com/

Robb

Robbaf
03-01-11, 10:59
To Robb,

I don't understand the point of posting michael home adress here for everyone to see, I am sure you don't want other people post your adress here when your ass is in Jail, I don't know the guy but this is just common courtesy.

Fast Eddie 48As I posted below, it came from the Harry the Horse website and if you live in the Philippine you know that the media here posts all info. I did not go looking for the guy's info. I was posting as a warning for those who like to meet non-bar girls.

FYI. My ass in jail? Point is I hope that I am smart enough not to do some stupid shit to end up in jail.

Robb

Mr Enternational
03-01-11, 14:48
i was posting as a warning for those who like to meet non-bar girls.i don't see it as a warning for those who like to meet normal ladies instead of hookers. instead i see it as a warning for those who would [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a woman.

Chocha Monger
03-01-11, 19:00
i don't see it as a warning for those who like to meet normal ladies instead of hookers. instead i see it as a warning for those who would [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a woman.whoa! let's not go convicting this guy before he even goes to trial in a court of law. no one on the board saw him [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) that pussy. saying that this is a warning to guys who [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) women is an assumption based on a huge leap of faith. any foreigner visiting the philippines experiences scam attempts from the minute they hit the arrivals area at the airport. overcharging taxi drivers, and touts for everything from hotels to girl bars converge like hungry wolves on new arrivals. then there are the street beggars who will cuss your ass out if you don't give them money. everyone wants something from you in the philippines. the guy met this girl on filipina heart (now filipino cupid) , a dating site teeming with girls scamming for money from foreign men. she and her family were ready to drop the charges in return for money. that is not the usual reaction of a raped woman. when a woman gets raped she is usually outraged to the point of wanting the perpetrator's balls cut off. she doesn't ask for money to go shopping. again no one saw what happened except the two people involved. maybe she was raped but the circumstances look awfully fishy. regardless of what happened it is a reminder that both foreign men and filipinas take a huge risk when they step into a room with someone they really don't know. ask some of the guys with money who live in the philippines what happens when they try to break up with some of these girls. threats of going to the police are not at all uncommon. also, the filipinas on the dating sites looking for foreign men are anything but normal. the fact that they are actively seeking out foreign men online sets them apart from the norm.

Nolz7
03-01-11, 19:44
As I posted below, it came from the Harry the Horse website and if you live in the Philippine you know that the media here posts all info. I did not go looking for the guy's info. I was posting as a warning for those who like to meet non-bar girls.

FYI. My ass in jail? Point is I hope that I am smart enough not to do some stupid shit to end up in jail.

RobbI notice that Filipinos are not very much concern about privacy of personal information. I came across this whoring website and the handler wanted to know your name, profession, telephone number and location. I told the guy to fuck my shit!

Wicked Roger
03-01-11, 20:33
whoa! let's not go convicting this guy before he even goes to trial in a court of law. no one on the board saw him [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) that pussy. saying that this is a warning to guys who [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) women is an assumption based on a huge leap of faith. any foreigner visiting the philippines experiences scam attempts from the minute they hit the arrivals area at the airport. overcharging taxi drivers, and touts for everything from hotels to girl bars converge like hungry wolves on new arrivals. then there are the street beggars who will cuss your ass out if you don't give them money. everyone wants something from you in the philippines. the guy met this girl on filipina heart (now filipino cupid) , a dating site teeming with girls scamming for money from foreign men. she and her family were ready to drop the charges in return for money. that is not the usual reaction of a raped woman. when a woman gets raped she is usually outraged to the point of wanting the perpetrator's balls cut off. she doesn't ask for money to go shopping. again no one saw what happened except the two people involved. maybe she was raped but the circumstances look awfully fishy. regardless of what happened it is a reminder that both foreign men and filipinas take a huge risk when they step into a room with someone they really don't know. ask some of the guys with money who live in the philippines what happens when they try to break up with some of these girls. threats of going to the police are not at all uncommon. also, the filipinas on the dating sites looking for foreign men are anything but normal. the fact that they are actively seeking out foreign men online sets them apart from the norm.
well said cm. innocent until proven guilty though in pi it tends to be guilty unless you pay off lots of people.

harry the horse has been in ac years and tends to be close to matters and am sure he will say more when he knows more, but the amount allegedly was 500, 000 pesos. huge sum and as cm stated, if she was so traumatised why ask for that cash. i know pi families who would kill the guy if they believed the daughter had been raped.

while i like the country and definitely the pussy, this happens all to often, greedy family who crap on each other and those associated with them (for example the western boyfriend who is perceived as rich).

imho this smells and is very fishy.

juts my view mr e. innocent until proven guilty is the norm as you would agree

Robbaf
03-01-11, 21:36
well said cm. innocent until proven guilty though in pi it tends to be guilty unless you pay off lots of people.

harry the horse has been in ac years and tends to be close to matters and am sure he will say more when he knows more, but the amount allegedly was 500, 000 pesos. huge sum and as cm stated, if she was so traumatised why ask for that cash. i know pi families who would kill the guy if they believed the daughter had been raped.

while i like the country and definitely the pussy, this happens all to often, greedy family who crap on each other and those associated with them (for example the western boyfriend who is perceived as rich).

imho this smells and is very fishy.

juts my view mr e. innocent until proven guilty is the norm as you would agreewr: i think you are correct and the guy is probably innocent. i posted this as a warning of the problems that you can run into in the philippines.

i could post 10 stories of guys that i know who got on a plane and left the philippines in less then 24 hours due to messing with the wrong girl.

short story, i know a guy who was messing with a "family connected" girl and while he was in the shower his cell phone rang and it was another girl and when he came out she went off the deep end and she pulled a gun and tired to shoot him. he ran out of the st hotel room and she basically did 1200 dollars damage to the room that he had to pay.

robb

ManonsanBoy
03-02-11, 00:01
WR: I think you are correct and the guy is probably innocent. I posted this as a warning of the problems that you can run into in the Philippines.The Philippines is in many ways a bad place to be. That is why your pussies are so cheap. A corrupt, incompetent, self deluded leadership really lets the people down. That is before I get on to the church!

Chocha Monger
03-02-11, 02:19
The Philippines is in many ways a bad place to be. That is why your pussies are so cheap. A corrupt, incompetent, self deluded leadership really lets the people down. That is before I get on to the church!All that cheap young pussy running around can make some mongers forget that the Philippines is an impoverished, crime ridden and highly hazardous country for foreigners. The stories that make the media are only the tip of the iceberg. Don't be a fool in pussy heaven because hell is just around the corner.

Cherry2000
03-02-11, 02:34
all that cheap young pussy running around can make some mongers forget that the philippines is an impoverished, crime ridden and highly hazardous country for foreigners. the stories that make the media are only the tip of the iceberg. don't be a fool in pussy heaven because hell is just around the corner.sorry for the long post.

if your going to quote me then please remember to snip.

the below is a reality and not just words on a page.

travel and play safe

cheers.

british shoot dead in angeles.

another foreigner killed near marquee mall.

tuesday, september 21.

around 2:00 pm today, a foreign national has been gunned down in don bonifacio subdivision, brgy. pulung maragul in this city.

bruce anthony jones, a 50-year old british national was shot by two unidentified suspects aboard a motorcycle not 50 meters away from mountain clark firing range. the victim was driving his car with his wife, maricel aramay, who was wounded and in the shooting. both were heading to mountain clark firing range to visit a friend after a lunch at marquee mall when their vehicle was fired upon by the suspects who fled to an unknown direction.

jones was a ship captain and resident of brgy. new cabalan, olongapo city. initial investigation has indicated that the murder was likely planned and may be linked to the victim's involvement in the confirep001ion of illegal firearms in another province sometime a year ago.

as of the moment, it seems likely that this murder is in no way connected to the shooting of a us retired cop, james basham, at pampang market last sunday.

09/21/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

american shot dead in philippines.

september 21, 2010.

ap.

gunmen fatally shot an american man and a filipino woman in the southern philippines for unknown reasons, police say.

two assailants opened fire on a passenger minibus in southern iligan city's mahayahay village on monday, police said on tuesday.

the american and a filipino woman were killed and another filipino woman was wounded.

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police identified the american as 41-year-old steven kindy from michigan. daraba says kindy was shot six times.

kindy's filipino girlfriend was unhurt in the attack.

police said kindy appeared to be the target of the attack but the motive was not immediately known.

hired killers in the philippines often shoot their victims while riding motorcycles, using the helmets to hide their identities.

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american shot dead.

sunday, september 19, 2010.

angeles city – an american national was shot and killed early sunday at a public market here, despite heightened police drive against the spate of killings of foreign nationals in the city.

james kermit basham. 63, was shot by two unidentified suspects onboard a honda tmx motorcycle around 7:30 a. m. the victim was about to board his motorcycle parked at the pampang public market when shot, police said.

police said basham succumbed to a lone bullet wound in the body. investigation is ongoing to unmask the suspects.

basham's death came two months after three foreign national were killed by a serial killer.

american geoffrey allan bennun, briton james bolton porter, and retired us air force albert mitchell were killed after they were robbed of their personal belongings by suspect by mark dizon.

dizon was arrested and is facing robbery and murder charges.

after the arrest of suspect dizon, the local government here assured foreigners and angeleños of their safety.

09/21/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

briton. 64, gunned down.

a british man who owned a south philippines beach resort was shot dead in front of his wife by thieves.

anthony nicholas. 64, died in a hail of bullets when he refused to stop his motorised tricycle for armed men.

they fired on him as he rode past, riddling his body with further shots as he lay on the floor.

mr nicholas's killing was witnessed by his wife judith who handed over shop takings to the men near the resort they operated called hijoe beach in sipalay, negros.

nicholas. 64, was shot dead by thieves in front of his wife judith near the beach that he owned in sipalay, southern philippines.

the couple's son james was visiting from london and raced to the scene from their nearby farmhouse.

the 28-year-old, from pinner, london, said: 'my father drove through a hail of bullets and then they shot him in the back. when he collapsed they emptied their guns into his body.

'my father had driven on to protect my mother and her assistant but he died almost immediately. '

mr nicholas said his father was part-owner of 'hijoe beach and that he was known locally as 'hi joe! '.

there had been a dispute over the beach but there was no evidence to connect the beach to the shooting.

the computer games expert spoke today as his mother and her assistant were treated for shock *and police began a hunt for the murderers.

speaking from matlag farmhouse nestled in the hills just above sipalay city, he added: 'my father had been coming here for 40 years and fell in love and married my mother here. he had a resort a shop and a farmhouse.

: the farmhouse owned by anthony nicholas where his son james was staying when the killers struck.

'he had a routine. everyday he would go down to the beach resort and return in the evening picking up my mother and her assistant and the day's takings from the shop.

'he was driving home in their motorised tricycle and side car when they were waved down.

'they were already on our land. dad drove straight on and the robbers opened fire then shot him in his back when they passed. he collapsed and fell over.

'the robbers approached and demanded any cell phones, so the police could not be called. my mother shouted to her assistant 'give them the money', which was just the days takings from the shop.

'the robbers ran off when they heard the sound of another vehicle approaching.

'i was at the house and heard the commotion. i had come to visit on my way from london to japan to take up a job there. '

shot dead: anthony nicholas. 64, was killed by gunmen near a beach he owned in negros, philippines. (file picture)

mr nicholas said his older brother anjo. 30, had had to leave his new job and was flying out from london and his younger sister joan. 23, would be following on later.

'my father loved it here. in days gone by it used to be a little bit scary because there was a lot of activity by the npa – the communist new people's army, ' he added.

'but there has been no trouble since the 2007 amnesty. there has been a minor dispute over the ownership of a local beach, but at the moment this appears to be just an opportunist act. '

sipalay mayor oscar montilla, however, said the nicolas' killing was isolated and was not expected to affect sipalay's tourism industry.

the area has become a popular new tourist resort since the government gave communist guerrillas an amnesty three years ago – with pristine beaches and excellent diving conditions.

09/07/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

briton slain in internet love triangle.

a british man who went to the philippines to propose to a woman he met in an internet chat room was stabbed to death by her jealous lover on sunday, police said.

john lorne mcdonald's would-be bride, nanqueen romero. 31, also sustained multiple wounds after being attacked by her filipino lover, police said in a statement.

mcdonald organised a party at romero's home to ask for her hand in marriage, police said, but it was not clear if she had told him about her filipino boyfriend, anselmo locastales, who turned up and attacked the couple.

locastales is on the run, police said.

the british embassy could not be reached sunday and no personal details about mcdonald were immediately available.

impoverished philippine women often use matchmaking websites to find foreign husbands in the hope of escaping the country for a better life.

09/07/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

amerikaner und frau und 3 angestellte erschossen.

an american national and four members of his household were shot dead in what police suspected to be a robbery case in angeles city in pampanga thursday noon, the local city police chief said.

angeles city police director supt. danilo bautista identified the victims as albert mitchell, a retired us air force personnel, his filipina wife jeanette androneda, househelpers isabel fajardo and marissa prado, and a certain boy vergara of dau in mabalacat town in pampanga.

the incident occurred at mitchell's house in hensonville court subdivision in malabanias village, at around 1:30 pm, bautista said.

initial investigation showed that a man entered the subdivision at around 12 noon and went out carrying several items.

security guard angelito prado, brother of one of the victims, marissa, discovered the bodies, who bore gunshot wounds from a 9-mm pistol.

prado told police he had asked a fellow guard not to allow the man to leave the subdivision while he checked on mitchell's house, just about 50 meters away from the guardhouse, as he suspected something was wrong.

prado rushed back to the guardhouse after discovering the crime, but the suspect was already on board a tricycle.

the suspect got off at the nearby marisol village, according to the tricycle driver, but police authorities were unable to track him down.

police recovered on the scene a white sack-like container with mitchell's belongings, such as a wallet, computer accessories and a dvd player.

according to bautista, it appears that the victims knew the lone suspect as there were no signs of forced entry.

'scene of the crime operatives are presently conducting crime scene investigation. manhunt operation is being conducted by our office, ' bautista said. —jma / jv, gmanews. tv.

07/23/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

canadian, partner found dead in angeles city.

angeles city, pampanga – a 60-year-old canadian and his filipina live-in partner were found dead inside their house in barangay (village) anunas here on monday, police said tuesday.

the decomposing bodies of geoffrey allan bennun and abegail helina. 20, were discovered only after security guards of the oasis hotel and villas smelled foul odor coming from the couple's house.

chief inspector luisito tan, commander of the angeles police's station 4 here, said empty shells from a 9-millimeter pistol were recovered near bennun's body. he said the bodies 'have signs of injuries and foul play. '

tan, however, could not give details on the nature of the injuries as police had not received the results of the autopsy.

brite erstochen.

a british national was stabbed and killed in baguio city by a local resident, who reportedly *resented the way the foreigner was demonstrating to his drinking partners how to kill a person with *bare hands last saturday, police said.

carl roy middleton was stabbed several times *and died while being taken to the baguio city general hospital and medical center past 7 p. m, cordillera police regional office director, chief supt. villamor bumanglag, said.

an investigation showed that middleton, a temporary resident of lexberville subdivision in balabac, baguio city was having a drink with a group of filipinos inside the tayao lodge located at kilometer 5, marcos highway in sto. tomas proper.

while they were drinking, the victim showed his listeners how to kill a man using one's bare hands.

lodge manager badongen balagbag said this demonstration apparently upset eddie tabara, *a resident of pitlawan compound, dontogan green valley, who overheard and saw what middleton was doing.

balagbag said tabara later embraced middleton and stabbed him repeatedly before fleeing on foot around 7:15 pm.

police have questioned middleton drinking partners — nardo pitas and orlando timango — about the crime.

06/22/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

deutsch-italiener in makati ermordet.

19. 06. 2010.

es ist 7. 30 uhr als sergio mazza (38) seine wohnung i'm vornehmen shang grand tower in manila verlässt. der berliner ist am donnerstag auf dem weg zur arbeit. i'm nur wenige hundert meter entfernten luxushotel „shangri-la makati' ist der gut aussehende deutsche als manager füare den restaurantbereich beschäftigt.

auf der straße tritt sergio mazza ein mann mit basecap entgegen, reißt eine waffe mit schalldämpfer hoch und schießt ihm dreimal in den kopf. sergio mazza stirbt noch auf dem weg ins krankenhaus.

„das war ein profikiller. wir können einen raubüberfall als motiv ausschließen, the wir bei dem opfer nach der tat noch sein handy sowie rund 20 000 pesos (rund 350 euro) gefunden haben', erklärt der ermittelnde polizeibeamte froilan bonifacio. und weiter: „derzeit gehen wir davon aus, dass der grund füare den mord i'm privaten bereich zu finden ist. '

so soll mazza eine heimliche beziehung zu mai lee ang (23) gehabt haben. auf den philippinen ist das dessousmodel ein heiß begehrter star. auch sergio mazza (38) soll von der asiatischen schönheit, die unter dem künstlernamen gwen garci mehrere model-wettbewerbe gewonnen hat, begeistert gewesen sein, sie mehrfach getroffen haben.

in einem internetforum mutmaßt ein freund: „gwen garci hat hier einige mächtige freunde, die haben die freundschaft zwischen ihr und sergio wohl nicht so gern gesehen. '

manila, philippines – police will invite for questioning the eight reported girlfriends of a german hotel executive who was shot dead as he was walking to work in makati city thursday morning, an official said yesterday.

national capital region police office (ncrpo) chief director roberto rosales said initial investigation showed the girlfriends of sergio mazza. 38, could have had something to do with his death.

'we found out that the victim is maintaining eight girlfriends at the same time. that is why we are zeroing in on the love affair angle in our investigation of his killing, ' rosales in an interview.

he directed makati city police chief senior superintendent froilan bonifacio to invite for investigation mazza's eight alleged girlfriends.

makati city police investigators are digging deeper into the case while the ncrpo is assisting them, said rosales. earlier, bonifacio told the star that based on the accounts they have gathered, mazza seemed to have multiple relationships with women.

'we're zeroing on that. he had lots of women and the investigation boils down on his personal life involving these affairs, ' bonifacio said. he, however, said they are still trying to corroborate witnesses' accounts. mazza, assistant executive food and beverage manager of the shangri-la hotel, was shot in the face at close range by a gunman with a. 22 caliber pistol at the corner of de la rosa and perea streets at about 7:30 a. m. thursday.

a witness said the gunman boarded a taxi where a woman was waiting for him, police said.

according to bonifacio, mazza's co-workers at the hotel claimed that the victim was very warm and friendly and did not have any known enemies.

police already ruled out robbery as the motive because mazza's belongings, including the p20, 000 in his wallet and blackberry mobile phone, were untouched.

rosales hopes the statements of mazza's girlfriends would help solve the case.

'we expect to make arrests in due time, ' the ncrpo chief said.

bonifacio said they are going through footage taken by closed-circuit television (cctv) cameras installed in establishments near the crime scene.

'we will probably give you feedback' by noon today, he said.

bonifacio said mazza's killer 'could be a gun for hire because he knew what to do and knew there is a cctv camera in the area. he even checked whether he had killed the victim before boarding the taxi. ' – with jose rodel clapano.

foreign nationals targeted in makati.

june 23, 2010.

a string of cases has been transpiring in makati city, and it seems as if foreign nationals are the unfavorable targets.

with the makati shangri-la food and beverage executive sergio mazza shot dead last thursday, a canadian citizen named louis maxwill viesca giliusk was abducted that same day around 2:15 in the afternoon at timezone, greenbelt 3.

meanwhile, french national charles zani became a victim of theft also that day. he reported to the makati city police that his iphone was stolen.

moreover, australian national john anthony merrill also reported to the police station that he became a victim of a con just this monday. merrill was standing idly at landmark when an unidentified man approached him. the man asked for his help to get his cousin to work as a nurse in australia. they sat in a coffee shop and the man even showed him his family picture. merrill agreed to help the man and his cousin by searching for a job in the internet.

the man admitted to not knowing how to work the internet, so merrill agreed to talk to him again after finishing his shopping. when they met again at the agreed time, the man was not there but instead merrill met the cousin.

the cousin had merrill ride a taxi and they went to a house in san andres, manila. when they got there, the cousin introduced merrill to his brother. they forced him to play cards with an initial usd 5, 000 deposit. a chinese also played with them and the men told merrill to shell out usd 27, 000 to see the chinese's card.

merrill insisted he had no such money with him and even showed them his wallet. but afraid that something bad might happen, he gave them his 18k gold chain and php 1, 000.

while he was reporting the said crime at the makati police station, merrill received a life-threatening text message. the text demanded php 50, 000 from him, otherwise his life would be at stake.

usa national dante marzetta also received a life-threatening text message last sunday. marzetta is a retired military captain. the text message warned him to stay away from a certain mariz pineda, or else he will be slain.

marzetta also received a life-threatening telephone call on that day. the caller even said that he has all sorts of information about marzetta and it would be easy to find him.

the makati city police have reported all cases under investigation.

06/22/2010 | categories: allgemeines | comments off.

deutscher erschossen.

bacolod city, philippines—a 68-year-old german national died from a gunshot wound during a fight with his 34-year-old wife in the couple's home in murcia, negros occidental tuesday.

senior superintendent manuel felix, provincial police director of negros occidental, said he has ordered a thorough investigation into the death of ewald jaehrling, who allegedly shot himself with a 12-guage shotgun, in barangay blumentritt.

felix said the bullet entered the victim's neck and exited through the back of his head.

chief inspector simeon gane, murcia police chief, in his report to felix, said the altercation between jaehrling and his wife melanie was reported immediately by one charlen chapon to the police.

the murcia policemen, who responded to the call for assistance, found jaerhling already dead.

melanie claimed she had a brief scuffle with her husband for the possession of the firearm when it went off.

police have recovered a spent shell and the gun loaded with two rounds of ammunition.

jaehrling's body was brought to the rolling hills funeral homes in bacolod city for autopsy.

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19 october. 2010. australian faces [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) raps.

angeles city. a 15-year old girl filed charges of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) against an australian national before the angeles city prosecutor office.

the report said maria (not her real name) .15, of angeles city told police that she was allegedly raped by frank drakopulous. 38, owner of 12:30 pizza haus located at fields avenue, barangay balibago, angeles city.

17 october. 2010. lto hits p112m collection record.

angeles city. the land transportation office (lto). angeles city is keen to surpass its 2009 record collection of p131 million, having already posted p112 million in revenues september 2010.

"that makes us the second placer in terms of revenue generation, next to subic. as of september, our collection has been posted at around p112 million already. we are achieving, at an average, an increase of 12 percent," said aida santiago, lto chief of office, during the agency's semestral big clean-up and quality workplace day.

17 october. 2010. village bet files exclusion case against riva.

angeles city. a re-electionist village chief here filed a petition before the commission on elections (comelec) to cancel the certificate of candidacy (coc) of his opponent.

balibago village chief rodelio mamac filed the petition to deny due course and the cancellation of the coc of alfonso bonifacio over the weekend.

17 october. 2010. movement holds voters' education forum.

angeles city. the gising barangay movement incorporated (gbmi) headed by auxiliary bishop pablo virgilio david held a voters' education forum at the immaculate conception parish church in barangay balibago saturday.

the movement, with the help of the parish pastoral council of the said church and the green youth brigade, initiated the forum in a bid to educate the people about their rights to suffrage and the importance of barangay governance.

16 october. 2010. pampanga vice mayor threatens to shoot 2 journalists.

pampanga. the vice mayor of porac municipality in this province allegedly threatened to shoot two radio journalists during a chance meeting in zambales last october 1.

radio journalists arnel panganiban and gary bernardo were attending a grand opening of an outlet of a convenience store chain in subic, zambales when vice mayor dexter david arrived and allegedly threatened to shoot them.

16 october. 2010. village bets sign peace covenant.

angeles city- aspiring village chiefs and council members from three villages here forged a peace covenant in a bid to prevent election-related violence during the october 25 polls.

at least 10 aspiring village chiefs and 39 aspiring council members from villages of balibago, anunas and malabanias signed the covenant for honest, orderly and peaceful elections (hope) at the police station 4.

16 october. 2010. more than killings, card game scams threats foreigners.

angeles city- "there's not much apprehension in the community," jimmy dale, president of the hotels and restaurants association in pampanga (harp) , said.

dale said there is not much fear for foreigners living in the city despite the series of killings that happened.

15 october. 2010. foreign group: killings are isolated cases.

angeles city. when a group of foreign businessmen in this city realized that there was only one person behind the killings of their three colleagues and six others, they were frightened.

"before they captured mark dizon, there was a lot of apprehension among us because of his being on the loose," jimmy dale, president of the hotels and restaurants association in pampanga (harp) , said.

15 october. 2010. facebook users condemn gantan's murder pictures.

mabalacat. facebook users from this province condemned yesterday the unscrupulous spread on cyberspace of the alleged murder photos of call center agent.

facebook users who called sun. star pampanga's attention sent a copy of the alleged murder photos of katrina gantan that have been spreading online like wildfire.

15 october. 2010. slay victim's hotel room blessed.

angeles city. a catholic priest on thursday led the blessing of the motel room occupied by a female call center agent who was killed and decapitated last october 1.

father larry sarmiento, parish priest of the santa monica church in mexico town, led the owner and staff of the miyabe court in blessing the room where kathrina gantan. 22, a former agent at sutherland call center was beheaded.

the priest also blessed the entire 82-room motel situated in barangay pulung maragul, this city. he said this is to secure peace in the entire establishment.

15 october. 2010. investor mulls pulling out investments.

angeles city. after the controversial raid of three entertainment clubs, a big investor in fields avenue is now considering pulling out some of his investments.

in a statement, gerard heinen, owner of the abc hotel, said he is "seriously considering stopping" further investments in the city after the september 15 raid.

heinen called the [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges against entertainment club owners and employees "baseless."

14 october. 2010. gang member nabbed.

angeles city. a suspected member of a fake gold bar syndicate called salaguinto gang was apprehended by the city police after being involved in a shooting of a policeman in 2002.

the suspect, identified as ramil castillo malabanan. 43, of purok 2 bliss, barangay sapang bato, this city, was arrested by elements of the police station 4 led by senior inspector dederick relativo and po2 sergio nino collado jr, at his residence on tuesday.

13 october. 2010. annual us-rp naval training exercise opens.

the annual rp-us naval training exercise cooperation afloat readiness and training (carat) opened wednesday in a ceremony at the golden dragon restaurant on canal road, subic bay metropolitan authority, olongapo city. the exercise ends october 22.

philippine navy flag officer-in command rear admiral danilo cortez; commodore edgar abogado, commander, naval forces northern luzon; vice admiral scott van buskirk, commander, us 7th fleet; and captain david welch, deputy commodore, destroyer squadron 31 participated in the opening ceremony.

13 october. 2010. village chief vows to continue programs.

angeles city. balibago barangay chairman rodelio tony mamac has vowed to continue various programs he initiated when he assumed office as barangay chief executive.

mamac said he will continue his programs on poverty alleviation, infrastructure, socio-economic services, environment, delivery of basic services, among others.

12 october. 2010. 3 charged in slaying of nursing student.

angeles city. murder charges have been filed against three individuals allegedly involved in the brutal slaying of a nursing student.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police director, said a special investigation task group (sitg) , organized on march 1, 2010, filed the case against three persons before the office of the city prosecutor.

12 october. 2010. police: no conspiracy in foreign national killings.

dizon. 28, a computer technician, was tagged by police investigators to be the "serial killer" of foreign nationals in the city.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police director, said dizon seemed to be suffering from a mental illness that made him kill at least nine persons. three of whom were foreign nationals.

12 october. 2010. heinous killing of call center agent deplored.

mabalacat. slain call center agent's relatives and friends pray for justice during the burial rites.

thousands of relatives, friends and neighbors witnessed the burial rites for the victim on tuesday.

10 october. 2010. bad news for angele&324; os: the killing of foreigners.

angeles city. during his first state of the city address (soca) , mayor edgardo pamintuan reported to angele&324; os not just his administration's accomplishments but also problems he has to resolve.

in his first 100 days in office, pamintuan admitted there were pieces of "bad news" for his constituents.

10 october. 2010. dead man found.

angeles city. police found a dead man at a vacant lot in barangay pampang on sunday.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police director, said the body was found near the rafael lazatin memorial medical center (formerly ospital ning angeles) around 5:45 a. m. on sunday.

the body of the victim, identified as gerald tolibas. 24, of 6th street, plaridel subdivision 2, barangay amsi here, was found by a concerned citizen, bautista said.

9 october. 2010. golden nile security returns p176, 000 stolen cash.

golden nile, a bar along fields avenue alerted station 4 of a theft amounting to p196, 000 from their daily sales early thursday morning.

meanwhile, the bar has reported that the money minus p20, 000 has been returned by the thief whom happened to be their security guard named julius montillano.

9 october. 2010. cops find missing head.

manila, philippines. police on saturday finally found the missing head of a call center whose decapitated body was found in a motel in angeles city, pampanga last weekend.

local police found the head of 22-year-old katrina gantan in a grassy portion near the morales bridge in sta. ines, mabalacat town around 11:20 am.

an initial report said that the head was placed in a yellow and red-striped plastic bag.

8 october. 2010. police taps nbi in beheading case probe.

angeles city – the philippine national police (pnp) here sought the help of other law enforcement agencies in its probe on the case a 22-year-old woman who was found dead and decapitated in her hotel room recently.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police director, said that they have already requested the national bureau of investigation (nbi) to help in matching the fingerprints of the victim.

the police identified the victim as katrina fernandez gantan. 22, a resident of ubas street, filipiniana subdivision in mabalacat town.

6 october. 2010. woman's head still missing.

angeles city. the city police still has no clue where the suspect may have hidden the head of a woman who was found dead inside a hotel room in this city last october 2.

police investigators are still searching for the head of katrina fernandez gantan. 22, of ubas street, filipiniana subdivision, dau, mabalacat town.

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5 october. 2010. korean dies in apparent suicide.

camp olivas. a korean national was found dead in his hotel room in barangay malabanias in this town saturday in an apparent suicide.

police identified the victim as seo ji hoon. 27, a korean national.

a staff of tiger hotel where the victim was billeted has found the korean national hanging by the neck with a bed sheet tied to a ladder at the back portion of his room.

5 october. 2010. man charged for [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) minor.

mabalacat. a 49-year-old man was recently charged in court for allegedly [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a 13-year-old girl in their neighborhood.

the suspect, identified as rico julian. 49, a resident of this town, is now recuperating in a hospital in nearby angeles city after bystanders, who helped the victim, mauled him.

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5 october. 2010. army backs cdc's project.

clark freeport. the philippine army in pampanga expressed its willingness to forge a partnership with clark development corporation (cdc) in developing more than 30, 000 hectares of uncultivated land.

the development of this land in sacobia valley was included in the next frontier flagship project of the cdc.

4 october. 2010. call center agent linked in beheading of woman.

angeles city. a call center agent in clark freeport was tagged as suspect in the brutal killing of a woman who was found beheaded inside a hotel room here on saturday.

police identified the suspect as adonis carino reyes. 30, a call center agent of sutherland, and a resident of fiesta communities, barangay tabun, mabalacat town.

carino was tagged as suspect in the slaying of his girlfriend and co-employee, kathrina fernandez gantan. 22, of ubas street filipiniana subdivision, dau mabalacat.

4 october. 2010. angeles mayor declares war vs crimes.

angeles city. mayor edgardo pamintuan has declared an all out war against crimes and criminal elements following several incidents of killings, including the brutal slaying of a call center agent who was beheaded inside a hotel room on saturday.

'i have ordered the setting-up of checkpoints and 24 days a week roving patrols in key areas of the city. the entire police force and all peacekeeping and security related personnel of the city must be on guard, ' pamintuan said.

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3 october. 2010. woman beheaded in miyabe court.

a headless woman was found inside a motel bathroom in angeles city on saturday night. senior superintendent danilo bautista, angeles police director, said investigators have yet to identify the woman, who was found nude in room no. 518 of miyabe court in barangay pulung maragul.

citing accounts of motel employees, bautista said the woman checked into the motel with two men at 7:30 pm of oct. 1. one of the men was seen leaving the room at 9:30 p. m, a police report said. no details were available on the vehicle that the group used. the murder was discovered on saturday night when a motel employee inspected the room after the standard 24-hour stay lapsed.

3 october. 2010. village hosts anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) seminar.

angeles city. after the controversial police raid of three entertainment clubs in fields avenue, barangay balibago hosted an anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) seminar to avoid similar incidents.

over the weekend, village chief rodelio mamac invited bar owners and managers to listen to advocates against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

3 october. 2010. mayor mulls tighter public security.

angeles city. mayor edgardo pamintuan assured residents and tourists here of safety and peace order has he started an "all-out war" against crime.

"enough is enough," pamintuan said in a statement.

28 september. 2010. mayor: angeles city relatively peaceful.

angeles city. mayor edgardo pamintuan said tuesday that the city is still relatively peaceful despite several killings involving foreign nationals over the past few days.

pamintuan issued the statement amid reports that several foreign and local tourists are now afraid to visit and stay in the city.

according to the mayor, three out of the five killing cases recorded over the past two weeks were solved by the city police.

28 september. 2010. pamintuan reiterates stand vs [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

angeles city – mayor edgardo pamintuan has reiterated his stand to uphold laws against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and decency.

the mayor said this during an emergency meeting on saturday with businessmen who own establishments along fields avenue and friendship perimeter road.

26 september. 2010. task forces formed for slain foreigners.

angeles city. police have formed two separate task forces that will look into the killings of two foreign nationals in this city last week.

senior superintendent danilo bautista formed and heads task force basham that is expected to investigate on the murder of retired american policeman james basham. the city police also formed task force jones in relation to the murder of british national bruce jones.

25 september. 2010. businessman killed in own hotel.

angeles city. a businessman was found dead in his own hotel on friday, police said. robert so. 55, bathed in his own blood when police found his body.

so suffered stab wounds and injuries in his face and head while lying on the bed in one of the executive rooms of haven hotel in barangay pulung maragul.

in a report, angeles city police director danilo bautista said police rushed so to a nearby hospital but was pronounced dead on arrival by the attending physician. bautista identified the suspects as archimedes david. 22, and ellaine peralta. 21, who are both residents of magalang town.

25 september. 2010. edpam meets with ac businesses to discuss raids.

mayor edgardo pamintuan met last night with the owners and managers of many of the major establishments in the city's entertainment district.

the purpose of the meeting was for pamintuan to address the very serious issue of the raids conducted by national law enforcement authorities over at some bars in fields avenue and the consequent damage to the image not only of the nightlife strip's businesses but of the whole of angeles city as well.

25 september. 2010. bir calls on erring taxpayers to avail of abatement program.

pampanga. the bureau of internal revenue (bir) is calling on the taxpayers to avail of the current abatement program to improve their current tax standing with the agency.

bir regional director romulo aguila jr. said the abatement program is being implemented in line with the run after tax evaders (rate) program to deter tax evasion practices and to encourage voluntary compliance of the internal revenue laws.

24 september. 2010. media gets anti-corruption skills training.

angeles city. the national union of journalist of the philippines (nujp) encouraged local journalists and civil society leaders on friday to report corruption cases in pampanga and neighboring provinces after the day's seminar.

'after this training, we expect the local media to come out with more stories on transparency and corruption issues in their areas, ' rowena paraan, director of the nujp, said.

24 september. 2010. australian killed in mishap.

mabalacat. an australian national was killed early wednesday when he was hit by a pick-up truck, the police said. chief inspector jose oliver montero, dau police chief, identified the victim as michael william mitten. 67, a seaman, of canidha subdivision, barangay camachiles.

mitten was crossing the macarthur highway in said village at around 2:35 a. m. on wednesday when he was reportedly struck by the speeding vehicle, montero said. witnesses told police investigators that the vehicle immediately left the area after hitting the victim.

23 september. 2010. mayor: no jueteng in city.

angeles city. mayor edgardo pamintuan said thursday small town lottery (stl) and not jueteng is operating in this city.

pamintuan said the city government already received some p1. 2 million from stl operations here. stl in this city, which is legal under current laws, is operated by the lake tahoe corporation.

23 september. 2010. cops told to establish quality service lanes.

angeles city. new philippine national police (pnp) chief director general raul macalalad bacalzo on thursday directed policemen here to establish quality service lanes for complainants and other people visiting their respective police stations.

during his surprise visit at the angeles city police station 4 in barangay balibago, bacalzo relayed his instruction to the police officials here headed by city director senior superintendent danilo bautista.

22 september. 2010. police: no 'jueteng' in pampanga.

pampanga. a top police official in pampanga denied wednesday the existence of "jueteng" in the province.

senior superintendent petronio retirado, pampanga police director, issued the statement following the allegations of retired dagupan archbishop oscar cruz about the prevalence of the illegal numbers game in the province.

21 september. 2010. british national killed near marquee mall.

around 2:00 pm today, a foreign national has been gunned down in don bonifacio subdivision, brgy. pulung maragul in this city.

bruce anthony jones, a 50-year old british national was shot by two unidentified suspects aboard a motorcycle not 50 meters away from mountain clark firing range. the victim was driving his car with his wife, maricel aramay, who was wounded and in the shooting. both were heading to mountain clark firing range to visit a friend after a lunch at marquee mall when their vehicle was fired upon by the suspects who fled to an unknown direction.

21 september. 2010. morales: pineda has nothing to do with jueteng.

mabalacat, pampanga. an ally of governor lilia pineda from this town dismissed accusations that she is one of several government officials involved in jueteng operations.

mayor marino "boking" morales defended pineda saying he did not believe in what retired lingayen-dagupan archbishop oscar cruz's claim that the kapampangan governor has knowledge of jueteng operations in the province.

20 september. 2010. petition filed vs club raiders.

angeles city. lawyers of the arrested managers and employees of the three entertainment clubs in barangay balibago filed a petition against police officers on monday.

pepito torres jr. and angelo lopez iii, lead counsels of the detained employees, filed a habeas corpus petition at the regional trial court in this city.

20 september. 2010. cell phone snatchers nabbed.

angeles city. the city police on sunday arrested two suspected cellphone snatchers along surla street in barangay balibago here.

the suspects were identified as custrado esperella. 31, single, of block 53 lot 25 northville 15, barangay cutud, angeles city; and rey marcelino pesquerra. 27, single, a security guard, also from the same place.

19 september. 2010. american shot dead.

angeles city. an american national was shot and killed early sunday at a public market here, despite heightened police drive against the spate of killings of foreign nationals in the city.

james kermit basham. 63, was shot by two unidentified suspects onboard a honda tmx motorcycle around 7:30 a. m. the victim was about to board his motorcycle parked at the pampang public market when shot, police said.

19 september. 2010. nujp to hold anti-corruption seminar.

pampanga. the national union of journalists of the philippines (nujp) through its pampanga chapter is set to conduct a one day training on government transparency and a seminar on anti-corruption reporting.

the seminar is free for 25 journalists and five members of civil society in the province. it will be held on september 24 at the graceland restaurant mcarthur highway, balibago, angeles city (near sta. maria church).

17 september. 2010. bar owners warned vs employing minors.

angeles city. the local government in this city, dubbed as the entertainment capital of central luzon, warned night club owners and similar businesses not to employ minors in their respective establishments.

the city government issued the warning friday following a raid conducted in entertainment pubs in the city's balibago district that resulted in the rescue of at least six minors.

17 september. 2010. media urged to report human rights cases.

clark freeport. a human rights lawyer urged journalists and other media practitioners in pampanga to pursue reports on human rights cases.

harry roque, a veteran human rights lawyer, said provincial journalists should not hesitate to write stories on human rights violations because they have more knowledge in their area of coverage.

17 september. 2010. woman yields 1 kg cocaine in angeles city.

angeles city. a 29-year-old woman was arrested by police for possession of one kilogram of cocaine in front of a mall in angeles city, pampanga, thursday afternoon.

supertintendent danilo bautista, angeles city police chief, identified the woman as rizza badillo, a native of bobon town in nortern samar province.

16 september. 2010. new raids on fields bar.

dirty duck, forbidden city, camelot and voodoo were raided by manila special task forces accompanied by social welfare groups.

dancers and other staff members were taken into custody while visiting customers were free to go. motive not clear so far.

12 september. 2010. 2 killed in ambush.

mabalacat – a businessman and his relative were gunned down along macarthur highway in barangay mabiga here around 12 pm sunday.

the victims, leonardo 'boy dagul' licup, a quarry operator, of green meadows subdivision here; and his uncle dolly licup of porac town, were about to cross the national highway in front of the golden land subdivision in said village on board a car when they were ambushed.

3 september. 2010. councilor renews call for cctv installation.

angeles city. councilor jesus sangil renewed his call for businessmen to comply with a city ordinance requiring all establishments to install closed-circuit television (cctv) cameras.

"this must be done right now to prevent cases of robbery or theft and other similar criminal offenses in their business," sangil said.

2 september. 2010. 7 charged with robbery.

angeles city. seven persons were charged with robbery with force upon things after being involved in a burglary which transpired in barangay san nicolas at dawn thursday.

john michael nunag. 18, of lourdes north west, this city; francis jay de leon. 26, also of this city, and their five other unidentified companions reportedly robbed the house of one martell wingco.

28 march. 2010. chinese national, driver abducted.

clark freeport. a chinese national and his driver were forcibly taken by unidentified armed men while on their way to fontana leisure park, clark freeport.

a report reaching senior superintendent danilo bautista, angeles city police director, identified the victims as zang yuen zen, chinese national and his driver, a certain 'dennis. '

18 march. 2010. cop slaying 'not elections-related'

mabalacat – town police said thursday the slaying of a police official here is not related to the may 10 polls.

superintendent rolly mendoza, town police officer in charge, said the killing of chief inspector manuel chika is an isolated case and cannot be considered as elections-related violence.

17 march. 2010. mayor endorses ex-senator move to create illegal drug court.

angeles city. mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno expressed wednesday his support to former senator tito sotto's move to create a court that will handle cases on illegal drugs.

the mayor said sotto's measure will help in the speedy resolution of cases on prohibited drugs.

16 march. 2010. cops pursue 3 angles on officer's killing.

mabalacat. the local police are pursuing at least three angles on the case of an officer who was gunned down in barangay dapdap, in this town last sunday night.

superintendent rolly mendoza, town police officer-in-charge, said the killing of chief inspector manuel chika might have something to do with the latter's former assignment at the internal security office (iso) and central luzon drug rehabilitation center (cldrc).

15 march. 2010. former justice secretary eyes creation of peace commission.

angeles city.former justice secretary silvestre 'bebot' bello has vowed to push for the creation of a peace commission.

in his visit in pampanga and angeles city monday, bello said that there will be no economic development without peace and order.

15 march. 2010. police officer shot dead.

mabalacat – a police official died sunday night after two gunmen onboard a motorcycle killed him along the dapdap road here.

senior inspector manuel chika. 48, who was assigned at the central luzon drug rehabilitation center died after sustaining several gun shot wounds on different parts of his body.

10 march. 2010. police note drop in crime rate.

angeles city – the crime rate in this urbanized city has dropped over during the first quarter, a top police official said.

this was gleaned in the report of superintendent gemma vinluan of the angeles city police office (acpo) during the peace and order meeting held at the sangguniang panlalawigan on tuesday.

10 march. 2010. bizwoman killed in ambush.

a businesswoman was killed and her son was seriously wounded when fired upon by five unidentified armed men along mac arthur highway in barangay san miguel, betis monday.

senior superintendent manuel gearlan, newly-installed officer-in-charge of the pampanga police provincial office (pppo) , said amerjan eusoff guiam. 59, a businesswoman and her son joseph. 33, were on board an isuzu crosswind with plate number csn-838 driven by one joren laxa.

9 march. 2010. immigration officer seeks reinstatement.

clark freeport. an immigration officer has appealed to department of justice (doj) to reinstate him to his post as director of immigration area office iii in clark.

immigration officer iii heranio manalo, at the same time, urged doj secretary agnes devanadera to speed up the investigation conducted by the department on allegations of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) at bureau of immigration-diosdado macapagal international airport (bi-dmia).

4 march. 2010. angeles city mayor faces plunder case.

angeles city. mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno is now facing plunder charges in connection with the p98-million property the city government recently acquired in barangay mining where the controversial p681 million sports complex will be constructed.

members of the city's minority bloc. councilors willie rivera, jesus sangil, maricel morales and ruben maniago. on thursday reportedly filed the plunder case against nepomuceno and city administrator mark allen sison before the office of the ombudsman.

2 march. 2010. mayoralty bet denies claim on gun ban violation.

mabalacat –- a lady mayoralty bet here has denied her critics' accusations that her camp is violating the gun ban implementation of the commission on elections (comelec).

marjorie morales-sambo, who is running for mayor under the nacionalista party, even belied reports that she is being surrounded by armed supporters whenever her team conducts meetings with constituents.

13 august. 2009. american tourist stabbed last night.

angeles city. a 30-year-old american tourist was stabbed to death by a vendor in front of the 7-11 convenience store along fields avenue in barangay balibago here around 3 a. m. thursday.

chief inspector ronaldo lorenzo, commander of police station 4 here, identified the fatality as thomas michael thorpe, a retired us navy personnel from new york city who was temporarily staying at a hotel here.

the suspect was identified as richard david. 23, who repeatedly stabbed the american with a 10-inch butterfly knife in various parts of the body during their fistfight.

policemen who responded to the commotion were able to arrest david, whom they saw was still holding the knife while the victim was sprawled on the pavement with blood oozing from his stab wounds.

the suspect tried to escape but was apprehended by the policemen.

investigation showed that the suspect and the victim had an argument and eventually traded punches. at the height of the brawl, david pulled a butterfly knife and stabbed thorpe on the chest, neck, and left side of the abdomen.

the victim was rushed to the ospital ning angeles but he was pronounced dead on arrival by attending physicians. (jun a. malig)"

12 august. 2009. minor stabs mute beggar in front of a cop.

mabalacat. a homeless mute beggar was stabbed by a minor in the presence of a policeman in front of the dau bus terminal here recently.

senior inspector joven dela cruz, head of the police community precinct in barangay dau here, identified the victim only as 'pipi, ' of legal age, who died while being treated at the mabalacat district hospital.

the victim was being mauled by two other beggars. cain. 17, and jude. 14 (not their real names) when senior police officer (spo) 1 renato quiambao saw what was happening. as he was trying to pacify them, cain stabbed the victim with a barbecue stick.

in his affidavit of arrest, quiambao said he was conducting beat patrol at the bus terminal when he saw two males mauling a man who was already lying helplessly on the ground.

quiambao rushed to pacify the suspects when cain suddenly drew a barbecue stick and stabbed the victim in the back. the policeman arrested the two and confirep001ed the barbecue stick. the victim was rushed to the hospital but died a few hours later due to 'hemorrhagic shock secondary to stabbing. '

cain was charged with homicide while jude was placed under the custody of the municipal social welfare office here.

balibago news sep-2009.

28 september. 2009. 'ondoy' leaves 95 dead; 247, 555 affected by floods.

manila, philippines. tropical storm 'ondoy' (international codename: ketsana) left the country yesterday, leaving behind a trail of 95 people dead. 29 missing, and some 247, 555 affected families.

the figures, however, could go higher as reports from the provinces have yet to reach the national disaster coordinating council (ndcc) as of press time.

rescuers struggled through heavy traffic and darkness of the night to bring residents of flood-stricken areas, who were perched on their roofs carrying their children and cherished possessions, to safer grounds.

26 september. 2009. project to stop exploitation, trafficking launched.

ing makababaying aksyon (ima) foundation, as the regional partner of visayan forum foundation, and microsoft have embarked on a project called the "stop trafficking and exploitation of people through unlimited potential" (step-up) project.

ima as the partner-community-based organization for the regional implementation of this exciting new project announced the launch of the regional phase of the step-up project.

the launch was held on saturday at the offices of ima in the women's development and resource center (wdrc) in balibago, angeles city.

while the scourge of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) cuts across age and gender, youth and young adults, especially girls and young women, are the most vulnerable to [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

24 september. 2009. 37% of sex workers in balibago bars are locals.

angeles city. a pro-women non-government organization has disclosed that 37 percent of "sex workers" in night clubs at the red light district of balibago here are from this city.

the renew foundation based its figure on the recent survey it conducted in cooperation with the uk-based university of oxford.

"in 2005, 16 percent of the women prostituted in the sex bars of balibago came from angeles (city) itself. but today in 2009, 37 percent of the women prostituted in the sex bars of angeles are from angeles itself," the renew foundation stated.

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23 september. 2009. cidg conducts probe on student's death.

angeles city. the criminal investigation and detection team (cidg) is now conducting a separate investigation on the case of a nursing student who was brutally killed inside her boarding house in barangay salapungan here on september 3.

police chief inspector randy glenn silvio, head of the pampanga cidg based in this city, said they took over the case upon the request of the victim's parents.

silvio said they are now gathering testimonies from witnesses to solve the case on the death of keith valerio ballesteros. 16, a nursing student of angeles university foundation (auf).

silvio also denied reports that they have already established the identity of the suspects in the slaying."we are still gathering information and statements from witnesses and barangay authorities."

23 september. 2009. farm caretaker charged for employer's death.

city of san fernando. the city police here over the weekend filed murder charges against a fighting cock farm caretaker suspected to be involved in the killing of his employer who was hacked to death last september 7.

the suspect, identified as apolonio 'jun jun' sambat panlilio jr. 43, of sitio mansgold, barangay santa lucia, in this city is being suspected of slaying his employer, luisito baluyut ponio. 51, of rosal street, greenhills village, barangay san agustin.

chief inspector fernando lansangan, san fernando police station 3 commander, said ponio was hacked to death around 7 a. m. inside his farm at san isidro village in barangay san isidro.

according to lansangan, they were able to 'solve the case' with the help of several witnesses.

22 september. 2009. mtv sponsors concert vs [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

angeles city. mtv philippines, in cooperation with the clark international airport corporation (ciac) , the diosdado macapagal international airport (dmia) task force for migrant protection and trafficking in person, the visayan forum foundation inc. and the us agency for international development (usaid) will be staging the mtv exit (end exploitation and trafficking) concert at the sm city clark here at 6 pm on september 26.

the concert, featuring bands sponge cola and sugarfree, is the second of four free concerts across the philippines that aim to raise awareness and increase the prevention of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and exploitation.

19 september. 2009. 9 'rescued' from bar.

city of san fernando. police operatives and representatives of the department of social welfare and development (dswd) recently rescued nine females – three of them minors – who work as guest relations officer (gro) in a videoke bar in barangay cutud, arayat town.

in his report to pampanga police provincial director gil lebin jr, arayat chief of police luisito magnaye said two of the minor gros are residents of gapan city, while the youngest, only 14 years old, is from cabanatuan city.

the age of the six other rescued females is between 19 and 30. they are residents of muntilupa, palayan city and gapan city.

magnaye said they arrested bastawang and her floor manager, cristy dizon. 42, of barangay sapang maragul, tarlac, because they were allegedly involved in recruiting female minors to work as gros in the said bar.

the three female minors have been turned over to the dswd authorities.

18 september. 2009. american dies of heart attack after sex.

angeles city. an american national died of a suspected heart attack after having sex with a filipino waitress in pampanga wednesday, police said.

po1 george buan, who is assigned at angeles police station 4, identified the tourist as james fitzgerald parks. 45.

buan said parks and a 22-year-old waitress, gina bacalla, went barhopping last september 16 before checking in at a local hotel to have sex.

bacalla said parks went to the bathroom to relieve himself when she heard a loud noise. she said she called for a doctor after finding parks sprawled on the floor, shaking.

"we'd only just met. we went barhopping and had dinner before going to the hotel. after we had contact, i heard a noise and then i saw him on the floor," she told authorities.

buan said a doctor went to the hotel but failed to save parks. he said a heart attack might have killed the tourist.

16 september. 2009. village chief nabbed for libel.

angeles city. elements of the criminal investigation and detection unit (cidu) wednesday arrested balibago barangay captain rodelio 'tony' mamac in connection with the libel charges filed against him by mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno.

chief inspector lamberto andasan of cidu in camp olivas said mamac was invited to the law enforcement agency's office by virtue of a warrant of arrest served to him while he was in the balibago barangay hall at around noontime.

the warrant of arrest was issued by judge edgar chua of the regional trial court (rtc) branch 47 of the city of san fernando. chua ordered the arrest of mamac for charges of libel.

in an interview with mamac over the phone, he said the case stemmed from earlier statements he allegedly issued against nepomuceno on the alleged extortion operations in angeles city's entertainment district in barangay balibago.

7 september. 2009. norwegian nabbed for overstaying.

clark freeport. a norwegian national suspected of 'overstaying' in the country was apprehended by elements of the bureau of immigration (bi) in angeles city over the weekend.

vidar teige nordas was arrested at the eruptions bar at the entertainment district of barangay balibago, said immigration area ii director heranio manalo.

immigration commissioner marcelino libanan on friday ordered the arrest of the norwegian for blatant violation of immigration laws, according to manalo.

elements of the immigration area ii swooped down at the bar where nordas holds office.

nordas later admitted that he was an 'overstaying alien' but said that he already gave his passport to his lawyer in manila to fix his status.

manalo said nordas had allegedly tried to bribe the arresting team by requesting them 'to settle his case inside his office' but to no avail.

the alien arrived in the philippines on august 20, 2004. he was given 21 days or until september 10 of 2004 to stay in the country.

manalo said that nordas was allowed to extend his stay in the country until may 18, 2005 and since then he has failed to apply for an extension of his stay.

libanan ordered all international seaports, airports and border crossing stations to tighten the monitoring of arriving and departing foreigners.

balibago news oct-2009.

30 october. 2009. motorcycle-riding gunmen strike again.

angeles city. two motorcycle-riding gunmen ambushed a younger brother of former public works and highways secretary jose "ping" de jesus while jogging inside a subdivision last october 17.

the unidentified suspects shot antonio de jesus. 61, at 7:15 a. m. along 9th st, plaridel 2 subdivision in amsic village. the victim, however, survived the attack.

the two other recent victims of motorcycle-riding killers were not as lucky.

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30 october. 2009. angeles cops seize 11-kilo marijuana.

angeles city. the city police arrested thursday a couple in barangay cutcut here for alleged possession of marijuana leaves weighing 11 kilos.

police identified the couples as russel santos mangalindan. 47, and anna bongo perez, of liwayway street, bagumbayan subdivision, cutcut, this city.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police officer-in-charge, said the suspects were caught possessing the huge volume of illegal drugs.

prior to the suspects' arrest, an informant informed the city police that the couple will be arriving from baguio city, bringing along with them large amount of marijuana.

22 october. 2009. boking gives cops 2 weeks to solve teen-slaying case.

mabalacat. mayor marino "boking" morales has given the town police two weeks to solve the slaying of 16-year-old girl who brutally stabbed 14 times on october 4.

morales said he has already directed mabalacat police chief elvis diaz to arrest the suspects in the slaying of pauline nicole castro, a third year high school student of don teodoro v. santos institute (dtvsi) here.

castro was found dead along mcarthur highway near an alley along the boundaries of barangays san joaquin and mamatitang located only several meters away from her residence.

19 october. 2009. new cop chief to 'resuscitate' tourist police.

angeles city. the new officer-in-charge of city police has bared plans to resuscitate the tourist police that will protect foreigners, particularly at entertainment district of barangay balibago.

senior superintendent danilo bautista said the tourist police force would consist of organic members of the philippine national police (pnp) and civilian volunteers.

he said the team would also handle special cases involving foreigners.

he said the central mobile patrol division would respond to any situations within the city.

police visibility will also be heightened to neutralize the operation of criminal elements, bautista said.

he added that he is also planning to conduct an investigation seminar among police personnel and barangay authorities."we will go down the barangay level so that they can help us in our crime-prevention program," he said.

19 october. 2009. brother of former dpwh chief survives ambush.

angeles city. antonio de jesus. 61, brother of former department of public of works highways (dpwh) secretary jose "ping" de jesus, survived an ambush saturday.

reports at camp olivas said the ambush staged by still unidentified suspects happened around 7:15 a. m. along ninth st. plaridel 2 subdivision in barangay amsic, in this city.

initial investigation said the victim was jogging at the place when two men on board a motorcycle shot him.

de jesus sustained a bullet wound at the upper portion of his arm. he was rushed to the angeles university foundation medical center for treatment.

15 october. 2009. angeles city has new cop chief.

camp olivas. the angeles city police has a new director following a simple turn-over ceremony held wednesday at the camp tomas pepito.

during the ceremony, senior superintendent pierre bucsit was formally replaced by senior superintendent danilo bautista.

14 october. 2009. carjackers strike again.

a brand new van was forcibly taken along santos street, nepo subdivision in barangay sto. rosario, angeles city around 2 a. m. last sunday.

reports reaching this camp said that a 2009 toyota hi-ace grandia, with license plate niq-677, was taken at gunpoint while parked at the subdivision by four unidentified gunmen on board a black kia sportage suv without plate numbers.

the owner, clarita limiac. 39, of purok 3, porac town, together with driver clarizon tolentino, michael delos reyes and paulo san jose, were inside the vehicle when the carjackers appeared.

at gunpoint, two of the suspects ordered the van's occupants to disembark, the report said.

12 october. 2009. slain girl's kin seek justice.

mabalacat. the family, relatives and friends of a 16-year-old girl who was found dead last october 4 are seeking justice for her untimely death.

the victim, pauline santos castro, a third year high school student at mabalacat institute, was found bathing in her own blood, lying on the pavement near a narrow alley at the southbound shoulder of mcarthur highway along the boundary of barangays mamatitang and san joaquin with at least 14 deep stab wounds in various parts of her body. the fatal wounds pierced through her heart and liver.

her body was found after she was heard 'quarreling' with someone and crying. neighbors thought it was just an ordinary quarrel.

family and relatives of the victim have been urging the police to bring her killer to justice.

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9 october. 2009. american accused of violence vs women, children.

camp olivas. the central luzon police office reported on tuesday the arrest of american national michael scott given by police intelligence operatives.

given. 50, a resident of barangay san nicolas 2 in magalang town, has been subject of an intensive manhunt ordered by chief superintendent leon nilo dela cruz a few weeks ago for violating republic act 9262, other wise known as "anti-violence against women and their children act of 2004."

the act which given allegedly violated 'values the dignity of women and children and guarantees full respect for human rights. the law also recognizes the need to protect the family and its members particularly women and children, from violence and threats to their personal safety and security. '

according to central luzon police information officer baltazar mamaril jr, given was arrested in barangay san nicolas, poblacion in concepcion, tarlac by virtue of a warrant of arrest issued by judge bernardita erum of the regional trial court in angeles city.

2 october. 2009. mayor withdraws libel case vs american.

angeles city. mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno has dropped the libel case he filed against an american trader who earlier accused him of being behind the operation of a group allegedly gypping money from bar owners and bargirls along the entertainment district of fields avenue in barangay balibago here.

nepomuceno dropped the case against jim dale of hotel la casa after the foreigner apologized to him.

'i knew that you were not behind the jojo group, ' dale told nepomuceno in his letter of apology dated september 30, 2009.

dale met with nepomuceno at the angeles city hall and personally apologized to the local chief executive for the false reports.

19 november. 2009. anti-drug rally in angeles city set.

angeles city. the angeles city anti-drug abuse council (acadac) headed by mayor francis "blueboy" nepomuceno is set to conduct a "parade and rally against drug abuse" along major thoroughfares friday.

"this is in pursuant to presidential proclamation 124 declaring the third week of november of every year as the drug abuse prevention and control week," nepomuceno said, adding that they hope to create grassroots awareness and vigilance against illegal drugs.

"the rally will start at the assembly points of chevalier school along mcarthur highway, holy family academy along sto. rosario street and dieg's bake shop along magalang-angeles road and parade to nepo quadrangle were a program will be held and anticipating 20, 000 in attendees," del rosario said.

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18 november. 2009. crime volume expected to rise before christmas.

angeles city. police anticipate an upsurge in crime volume during the christmas season.

with this, first district of pampanga, angeles city police departments, mabalacat and magalang towns are now instituting measures to prevent crimes in the localities.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, angeles city police officer-in-charge, said hes directed his men to intensify police visibility in places of convergence like malls, churches, jitney terminals, and others.

bautista said that police personnel will be regularly dispatched in malls to ensure the safety of the people rushing for food and grocery items.

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16 november. 2009. chinese national found burned.

clark freeport. a chinese national with second degree burns all over his body was allegedly found inside the bathroom of villa 3208 in fontana leisure park thursday.

in a report, chief inspector rogelio javier, angeles city station 4 commander, identified the victim as di run cheng.

when responding policemen arrived at the leisure park, members of the fontana security and clark development corp. security department were already in the area, according to javier.

it was reported to the police that di was occupying villa 3208, together with ren yi wei, chao pao and couple li gang and lu nah.

police investigators are puzzled about the incident, as there was no physical evidence or means of burning oneself found inside the villa's bathroom.

10 november. 2009. arrest warrant out vs american for libel.

angeles city. police are now hunting an american woman after the regional trial court here issued two warrants of arrest for libel against her.

judge maria angelica paras-quiambao issued the arrest warrants against maribel langley-van keulen. 41, who is claiming to be a member of the national press club (npc).

langley-van keulen earlier filed before the high court a writ of amparo against philippine national police (pnp) director general jesus versoza, national bureau of investigation (nbi).central luzon director rustico vilgilia, and 10 other police officials in this city, including chief inspector luisito tan, one of those who filed libel charges against her.

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van keulen is being suspected as author of the website centralluzoncorruption. com, which labels president gloria macapagal-arroyo as "thief and murderous president," among other scandalous terms, and the philippines as the "murder capitol (sic) of the world."

tan said he was sure that the website has been under van keulen's control, as he cited the photo which he witnessed her taking with the use of her cell phone. he also noted that the website's updates conform to van keulen's involvements in this city.

4 november. 2009. city installs cctv cameras.

angeles city. as part of its campaign against criminality and traffic violations, the city government here has installed closed-circuit television (cctv) cameras along major thoroughfares.

mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno led the launching of cctv surveillance system in this city during the street jam and party celebration along mcarthur highway at barangay balibago.

he said at least seven cameras with zooming capabilities are already operational. they will be used to monitor major thoroughfares to help deter crimes. videos and still images are transmitted over fiber optic lines to the operation center.

city administrator mark allen sison said the cctv cameras would also be used to manage the traffic situation in the city and to gather relevant data on vehicular traffic, including its volume, for future traffic regulations.

27 december. 2009. swedish tourist beat up.

a swedish tourist currently recovers from severe head injuries in a local hospital after a dispute with bouncers at the dollhouse bar.

15 december. 2009. cmfr to hold human rights seminar.

clark freeport. the center for media freedom and responsibility (cmfr) , with support from usaid through the asia foundation, will conduct a two-day seminar-workshop on human rights reporting from january 21 to 24 next year.

cmfr deputy director luis teodoro, in a statement tuesday, said the activity, which will be held at holiday inn clark, is meant to enhance media practitioners' awareness of human rights issues and to encourage the pro-active generation of articles as well as in-depth reporting on human rights.

"recent events have made the country the focus of worldwide outrage over the killing of journalists, and the violation of the rights, particularly to life, of individuals supporting political parties and candidates for the elections of 2010. the november 23, 2009 maguindanao massacre is a new low even in the country's already shameful record of violence. of the 57 civilians killed, at least 31 were journalists. this incident is unprecedented in the history of the country," teodoro said.

14 december. 2009. angeles city gets award from palace.

president gloria macapagal-arroyo awarded certificate of recognition to angeles city government for successfully installing a quality management system in ceremonies held in palace recently.

the said installation is in line with the compliance of executive order 605 series of 2007 certified to iso 9001 standards.

6 december. 2009. arrest warrant issued vs 3 schoolteachers.

angeles city. regional trial court (rtc) branch 61 recently issued a warrant of arrest against three teachers of an international school in barangay cutcut in this city.

in the arrest warrant dated november 23, rtc branch 61 judge bernardita gabitan-erum directed any officer of the law to arrest violeta de jesus, myla diano, and maricel inocencio of westfields international school incorporated (wisi) , which is located at sunset estate in barangay cutcut, this city.

this is in connection with a case of falsification by private individuals under the revised penal code in relation to republic act (ra) 7610, a special law that protects children against abuse, exploitation and discrimination, filed by lilian david, mother of a former student of westfields.

6 december. 2009. australian found dead.

angeles city. an australian was found dead inside his room in an apartment at number 4-6 aguinaldo street, josefa ville subdivision, barangay amsic, angeles city recently.

in his report to sun. star pampanga, senior superintendent danilo bautista, officer-in-charge of angeles city police office, identified the victim as timothy harriman (timbo) .40, who was temporarily residing at said place.

the victim's friend, a certain romeo tullman. 40, a dutch national who is staying in a hotel, told police investigators that he saw harriman alive at around 2 a. m. on tuesday at voodoo bar along fields avenue in barangay balibago, angeles city.

the alleged wife of the victim identified as lallyn harriman why orpanio. 24, told police that on november 14, this year, she and her husband had a misunderstanding about the fight of pacquio and cotto.

3 december. 2009. city joins anti-aids campaign.

angeles city. the tridev specialist foundation and jogger's unlimited will commemorate this year's world's aids day with a 5-kilometer run dubbed "run for life: stop aids now."

mayor francis "blueboy" nepomuceno said the activity, in partnership with angeles city tourism office, aims to spread advocacy and awareness about human immunodeficiency virus (hiv) and acquired immune deficiency syndrome (aids) and prevent the spread of such diseases.

its route will start at the miranda street rotunda, entire stretch of henson street, jake gonzales boulevard, turning right to mcarthur highway, passing through angeles university foundation, sto. enteirro street, sto. rosario street, plaridel street, then back to miranda street.

2 december. 2009. mayor leads anti-violence vs women project.

angeles city. mayor francis "blueboy" nepomuceno led tuesday the signing of a memorandum of understanding (mou) on "the red anti-violence project."

the signing took place during the launching and signing of the memorandum of agreement held at century resort hotel here.

the project, dubbed as "private and public faces of violence against women: addressing domestic violence and trafficking in the urban poor communities and entertainment centers in angeles city," aims to identify factors constraining the effective implementation of the anti-trafficking and anti violence against women and children (vawc) laws and build the capacities of stakeholders to address the identified factors hindering the protection and f28 january. 2010. philip morris starts construction of asia pacific warehousing hub.

subic bay freeport. philip morris philippines international manufacturing inc. has formally started the construction of its asia pacific warehousing hub located in this freeport after a simple ground breaking ceremony monday morning.

philip morris signed a 50-year lease agreement with the free port authority, increasing its total land area to 49, 279 square meters from its current 10, 000-square-meter warehouse. fulfillment of the right against trafficking and violence.

23 january. 2010. new lead in nursing student slay case found.

angeles city. the criminal investigation and detection group (cidg) has found a new lead in the brutal killing of a nursing student here last year. chief inspector randy glenn silvio, chief of the pampanga cidg based in barangay pampang here, said two students of angeles university foundation (auf) saw the victim being accompanied by several students on her way to the boarding house where she was killed.

keith valerio ballesteros. 16, a former nursing student of auf, was brutally killed inside her boarding house in barangay salapungan on september 3, 2009.

23 january. 2010. ex-cop nabbed for drugs.

clark freeport. the center for media freedom and responsibility (cmfr) held a "human rights reporting" seminar for some 20 journalists and media practitioners from north luzon at the holiday inn hotel resort in this freeport.

the two-day live in seminar, which started friday and ended saturday, tackled various aspects on human rights reporting, including the role of the media in upholding and "articulating" to the public issues on human rights abuse and violation.

20 january. 2010. ex-cop nabbed for drugs.

mabalacat. a former police officer was apprehended after being suspected of selling illegal drugs in barangay dau here over the weekend.

superintendent rolly mendoza, town police officer-in-charge, disclosed wednesday that former police officer 2 emmanuel capati papas was charged with drug pushing after allegedly being caught selling methamphetamine or shabu to police agents.

a buy-bust operation was conducted by the team led by vega, chief of the municipal police intelligence branch, which resulted to papas' arrest.

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19 january. 2010. teenager stabbed dead.

angeles city. a 19-year-old man was stabbed to death by one of the persons who allegedly mauled him along plaridel street in barangay san nicolas here sunday night.

kaycee policarpio. 19, single, of no. 125 mabini street, san nicolas, succumbed to a single stab wound on his left chest, said chief inspector rene aspe, police station 1 commander.

14 january. 2010. finnish tourist found dead in a hotel.

angeles city. a finnish tourist was found dead inside his rented room at vistillana lodge along charlotte street, barangay balibago, angeles city on monday.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, angeles city police director, identified the victim as kari allan pentinsaari, a tourist from finland who was temporarily billeted at said lodge.

bautista said that the victim was last seen on saturday by isabela pineda, desk clerk of vistillana who informed him about the time of his check-out.

14 january. 2010. car stolen in angeles city, first in 2010.

angeles city. a car parked at a mall in barangay sto. rosario was stolen on monday, recording the first carnapping incident in the city, police official said.

a report said the honda car with license plate wju-521 owned by one annabel bautista. 31, of barangay agapito, angeles city was stolen from the parking lot of nepo mall.

the victim was buying grocery items when her car was stolen.

13 january. 2010. police recovered 3 'missing' vehicles.

angeles city. operatives of the criminal investigation and detection team (cidt) here have recovered the missing three toyota innova vehicles, which were allegedly sold without the owners consent.

the first to be recovered last sunday was the one owned by one lenny bermudo of makati city with land transportation office conduction sticker no. az 9682.

7 january. 2010. tricycle 'thieves' nabbed.

mabalacat. five persons, including two minors, were apprehended and charged in court by the town police after being suspected of carnapping a tricycle in barangay dau here wednesday.

the arrested suspects were identified as jayson cajala. 19, of northville 15, cutud, angeles city; marlon majia. 18, of biglang sibol, dau, this town; jimmy moneva. 18, of diamond subdivision, balibago, angeles city; totey (not his real name) .16; and arjay (not his real name) .15.

the suspects were involved in a theft case where a tricycle was stolen from adorable dela pe&324; a. 63, of barangay dau wednesday morning.

6 january. 2010. kuwait-based firm to develop airport.

clark freeport. a kuwait-based firm, almal investment company, has committed to develop the diosdado macapagal international airport (dmia) with a total investment of $1. 2 billion.

clark international airport corporation chairman nestor s. mangio said almal investment company, a subsidiary of m. a. kharafi group, has sent to his office a proposal for the development of the clark airport.

in its proposal dated december 24, 2009, the company expressed its desire to develop all civil 26 february. 2010. 2 cops arrested for illegal drug dealing.

mabalacat. two police officers involved in illegal drugs dealing were arrested last wednesday in a buy-bust operation by narcotics agents of the philippine drug enforcement agency (pdea).

the policemen, together with another officer detained for drug dealing, were busted by a pdea team led by agent froilan bitong.

pdea 3 regional director ronald allan ricardo said the suspects had long been subject of a surveillance operation following reports from intelligence officers that the arrested policemen were involved in illegal drugs trafficking.

26 february. 2010. mayor leads police anniversary rites.

angeles city. mayor francis nepomuceno led thursday the 19th anniversary celebration of the philippine national police (pnp) held at camp tomas pepito in barangay sto. domingo, this city.

this year's event dubbed 'kapulisan at mamamayan: bayanihang pangkatahimikan at kaunlaran' aimed to honor the unwavering partnership of the pnp and the civilian forces to sustain peace and order and to promote development in the community.

26 february. 2010. lazatin ranks 3rd among 30 outstanding lawmakers.

angeles city. representative carmelo lazatin ranked third among those adjudged as most outstanding congressmen by the congress magazine.

this was revealed during the 30 most outstanding congressmen awarding ceremony held earlier at manila hotel. components of dmia terminal 1, 2, and 3 based on the corporation's master plan.

19 february. 2010. foreigners, filipina charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), drug smuggling.

angeles city. agents of the national bureau investigation (nbi) filed criminal charges against three nationals of papua new guinea and a filipina.

the three foreign nationals and the filipina were charged with violations of the comprehensive dangerous drugs act, the migrant workers and filipino overseas act and anti-trafficking in persons act.

18 february. 2010. newsman's wife victimized by thieves.

mabalacat. a surveillance camera caught a group of suspected thieves stealing the bag of the wife of a news editor at macdonald's in barangay dau here wednesday night.

the recorded video revealed that one of the suspects bought food from the counter before they got the victim's handbag that contained a cell phone worth p24, 000, credit cards, and p3, 000 cash.

17 february. 2010. fatal robbery recorded on cctv.

angeles city – a closed circuit television (cctv) has recorded a gasoline station robbery and the shooting of the detailed security guard monday dawn.

senior superintendent danilo bautista, city police officer-in-charge, said the whole incident has been recorded on the monitor of the central fuel station in barangay balibago, this city.

'with the help of the cctv, we were able to take pictures of the two suspects who entered the gasoline station, ' bautista said.

17 february. 2010. city body vs [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) reconstituted.

angeles city. mayor francis 'blueboy' nepomuceno reconstitutes the city's inter-agency committee by issuing executive order no. 3, series of 2010 last february 16, 2010.

this is in its bid to further enhance its function and enforcing the provisions of r. a. 9208 and r. a. 9262, otherwise known respectively anti trafficking in persons act of 2003 and violence against woman and children.

17 february. 2010. station robbed, guard killed.

angeles city – four men on board two motorcycles robbed a gas station in barangay balibago here after killing its lone security guard monday.

chief inspector rogelio javier, commander of police station 4 here, identified the victim as jomar de guzman. 19, who was shot in his temple with a caliber. 38 pistol.

15 february. 2010. 15 clark immigration officers recalled.

clark freeport. fifteen bureau of immigration (bi) officers detailed at the diosdado macapagal international airport (dmia) had been recalled while being investigated for their alleged involvement in [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

the names of the 15 immigration officers have been withheld for confidentiality per laws on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). they have been reportedly replaced by a new batch of officers cleared by the commission on elections upon the instructions of bi commissioner marcelino libanan.

15 february. 2010. gender sensitivity room launched in angeles.

angeles city – the department of justice (doj) , in cooperation with united nation population (unfpa) , has launched a gender sensitivity room at the angeles city prosecutor's office here.

this is part of the program implemented by the joint multi-stakeholder programme to eliminate violence against women and children in the country.

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11 february. 2010. retired us navy shot dead.

angeles city – a retired member of the united states navy was shot dead in front of his residence in barangay pulung maragul on wednesday.

in his report, chief inspector roger tomen, commander of police station 3, identified the victim as raymond buenaflor. 72, resident of 43-19a eleuterio street, pulung maragul village.

11 february. 2010. canadian, filipina nabbed.

angeles city. a filipina and her canadian partner were arrested monday for allegedly operating four cyber sex dens in this city and nearby mabalacat town.

chief inspector randy glenn silvio of the criminal investigation and detection team-pampanga said in a report that the two have pending warrants of arrest issued by judge philbert iturralde of the regional trial court branch 58 on august 24, 2009.

5 february. 2010. police recover stolen vehicle.

angeles city. elements of angeles city police station 1 recovered wednesday a van in barangay calibutbut, bacolor town that was stolen at the business district of barangay santo rosario on monday.

chief inspector rene artazo aspe, police station 1 commander, said they were able to recover the carnapped vehicle with the help of an informant.

1 february. 2010. south korean businessman shot dead.

angeles city. a south korean businessman was shot dead by unknown gunmen as he left his hotel, local police said monday.

one of two suspects called out the victim's name, kang ha-young, shortly before the attack at the clark economic zone late saturday, said angeles city police official senior superintendent danilo bautista.

the gunmen arrived and left by motorcycle, he told agence france-presse, adding that no arrests had been made.

28 march. 2010. chinese national, driver abducted.

clark freeport. a chinese national and his driver were forcibly taken by unidentified armed men while on their way to fontana leisure park, clark freeport.

a report reaching senior superintendent danilo bautista, angeles city police director, identified the victims as zang yuen zen, chinese national and his driver, a certain 'dennis. '

Cherry2000
03-02-11, 02:55
Just to add to the below post. I know that alot of the articles are about foreigners that live in Pi but still relevant to the topic. There have been alot more deaths / murders over tha past few months that arnt listed below. RIP Billy and all not mentioned below.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your traveling to Angeles and surrounded by at least 100 bars, Pay Your Fukking Barfine and be safe. Think of it as paying a little more for insurance against being setup which could end up costing you Thousands not to mention prison before you can even stars to defend yourself.

Food for thought.

Cheers.

Satyr23
03-02-11, 07:07
Hi everyone! Thanks for all this great info! My only problem now is choosing between Thailand, Philippines, and Indonsia. I lived in Thailand 10 yrs ago and found a non pro girlfriend right away. She was awesome and a freak in the sheets, but because I was satisfied with her I didn't get to check out the P4P scene there.

In which country are girls less inhibited? I'm with out a doubt an Ass man, and am wondering in which country girls are going to be more receptive to back door action.

Thanks everyone!

Satyr

John Traveller
03-02-11, 07:21
INTRO: Second time in AC, and I had great expectations from my visit two years back. This time I stayed 18 days divided into 3 periods (was to Cordillera and Palawan in between). Full hotels all the time so I had to move between different places.

I checked out a lot of different bars on and off Fields, but I sticked to three of them for getting girls. I am sorry about the anonymyzation of persons and places, but I just have to do this.

A MIXED START: The first few nights are nothing special, I take out some girls from Bar-A, some good, but varying performances. Then I go to the Cordillera Province. When I come back I go to Bar-B. A girl on the stage smiles at me, she lookes both pretty and horny so I call her down. Her name is S, we soon go back to my hotel. She turnes out to be very good and she stayes all nite. Now I start to be happy, the first really good nite so far.

HEATING UP: The next days I look around in different places, and take more girls from Bar-A. I also go to Bar-C where I meet R. I notice her at once I walk into the bar, she looks so innocent! I buy her a LD, she tell me she is 20 years old, has just began working in the bar and has had sex only once before (and that was before she began working in AC). She won't go with me that nite, but says she will do so the next nite. So she does, and she is really nice and passionate, but inexperienced in bed. (When I suggest different things we can do, she often replies: "ahh, but I don't know how to do that".) After this I buy a Phillipine SIM-card for my cellphone, and start texting with R. When she has a day off she come to my hotel. I pay half price of the regular bf for that.

CONFUSION: But I start to miss S. So one day I go back to Bar-B. I arrive a bit too late, at 10pm, she has already been barfined. Some other girls notice my disappointment, and say "You should have come earlier!" and "You can take another girl" and then point at their friend (they often do this). And one of them, called T say: "S said you were nice". Interesting, I guess this roumor thing can turn out to be an advantage if one uses it the right way. I really like T, she is very pretty and we kiss passionate. So I am surprised when she don't want to go with me."We have hygiene check tomorrow", she says. Well well, I go to Bar-A and get a girl there, only medium pretty, but very good in bed. The next day I go to Bar-B again, T says that she had been to late for the medical check-up in the morning and therefore she cannot not go out. True or lie? I don't know. But anyway, now I got a hang-up on her. And I know that such a thing is not good, not good at all.

INTERMEZZO: Then I go to Palawan for some days. When I come back I go to Bar-B again. Partly because of T but also because I like the place and they have many pretty girls. T now have the excuse of the mens, and she will not come with me. Finally I understand that I should just forget about her. (Thinking about it, I have never seen T getting a bf, only having LDs.) So I go with another girl, Y, instead. She is good in bed, but keep asking me these irritating questions: "why are you not married? Why are you so quiet?" and so on. She also has noticed that I like T."I don't understand why she won't go with you", she says.

Next nite I go to Bar-C and met R again, now she starts to be a bit more experienced, we have the best nite so far.

BUSY NITES: The nite after I go to Bar-B yet another time. A girl called E catches my attention. I had seen her on my visits to Bar-B before, but she had never seen to be "interested". It turnes out she was just a bit shy. For instance, she don't want to kiss much (dfk) in the bar, but wow, when we came back to my room. Fantastic! (This shows that you cannot always be sure of how eager the girl is going to be by judging from her behaviour in the bar. Sometimes there are surprises.)

Next day is Valentine's day. R sends me text messages in the morning: "happy valentines.". In the evening I go to Bar-C to meet here. But she's not there. They say it's her day off, and that she is now sleeping, earlier she had been drinking."Because she had no Valentine". Hmmm, girls really take this Valentine-thing serious. I should of course have called her earlier in the day. I decide to go to Bar-B instead, I am sure E wants to be my Valentine. And, yes, she does. When I enter the bar things seem different, some of the girls stop talking, and look at me, I immidiately go over to E and kiss her and says "happy Valentine". All applause this (the girls and waitresses in the bar now now me well) , we have a quick drink and go to my hotel. This nite is even better than the nite before, she seems different and asks me several times "did you miss me?" She stays all nite and all is really good!

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND: A new day: I go to Bar-C to meet R. Sort of to make up for not meeting her the nite before. (This turnes out to be a wrong decision.) We go back to my hotel at 9. For some reason the sex isn't so good this time, and she leaves at midnight. I fall asleep. At 2:30 in the morning I am awaken by a phone call from the reception: "E is here, can she come in?" (The hotel has this very good service of calling when a girl leaves or arrives. To ask if everything is ok.) I am surprised. Then she enters my room and throws herself on the bed: "I sleep here!" She is somewhat drunk and wear more makeup than usually."Why didn't you come to Bar-B tonite? Do you have another girl here?" "No", I reply,"Are you jealous?" She answers yes. I say that I want her to stay and then we kiss a bit, but when I won't say anything regarding having had another girl in the room earlier that nite she gets angry and leave. (Maybe I should have lied and answered no to her question.) Folks: Watch out for this, Filipina girls can get really dangerous when they are jealous.

HAPPY ENDING? : Next evening I go to Bar-B at 7. Already lots of people there, and I am too late. E is just in the process of being barfined by another man. When the girls on the stage see me they shout to E: "your valentine!" I sit down and talk to some of the other girls."E was sad because you didn't come here last nite, so she started drinking. She fell in love with you". Hmmm, so now I have made two girls getting drunk this week, I think to myself. It's all so strange."It's only short-term, she will come back for you", another girl says, and give me E's phone number. However I am not sure about that, so I take another girl, N. In fact I had noticed her several times before and wanted her. We go back to my hotel, and she is good, great sex. But she leaves already at 11. Ok, I then text E, saying I'm alone and that I want to meet her. She answers, and half an hour past midnight she is in my room. She stays all night and everything is good again."Do you like me?" she always asks. I say yes, and promise to back to meet her the next time I am in The Philippines. For this last nite toghether I pay nothing.

The next day is my last in AC, I say goodbye to E (and later in the day I meet R to say goodbye to her too). Then the final tuk-tuk ride to the bus-station. And I realize I miss E a lot, and that I cannot forget here. Now the question is: should I give up my free (but lonely) life as a forever traveller in exchange for settling down and get something unknown? The answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

CONCLUSION ON AC: The scene is still good but not as good as two years ago. Then ALL my girls stayed all night and provided excellent service, not too difficult to find them either (of course had to look around a bit to find someone who seemed the girl WANTED to go along with me). This time: 1/3 stayed LT. 1/3 ran after 1 hour, and 1/3 stayed half night / 4 hours (something that sometimes is the best). The service was very variable (ranging from excellent to mediocre) , and it was more hassles and expences at the bars. So I concur with previous postings on this. BTW: There is a saying that "thinking with your wrong head" can get you into trouble. Not true. I say it is your heart that you can get into trouble!

Slippery
03-03-11, 13:55
We respect your protecting the identities of the girls why hide the identities of the bars?

X Man
03-03-11, 16:19
I guess it might be, wait for this because it might surprise you. The gals are associated with the bars.


We respect your protecting the identities of the girls why hide the identities of the bars?

Boricua
03-03-11, 19:10
I agree! We mention bars here all of the time. I understand not wanting to identify the ladies. Besides, it got somewhat confusing trying to keep track of A, B then Z, Y and W. . Other than that, it was a great report.


We respect your protecting the identities of the girls why hide the identities of the bars?

Robbaf
03-03-11, 22:57
INTRO: Second time in AC, and I had great expectations from my visit two years back. This time I stayed 18 days divided into 3 periods (was to Cordillera and Palawan in between). Full hotels all the time so I had to move between different places.Thanks for the report, but damn I am confused trying to follow what happened. I can almost guess that one bar was Ponytails and I can name the girl. Hahaha.

Robb

Poopbunny
03-04-11, 08:50
For me. reading John Traveller's report was like looking at a nice porn pic of a girl with the face obscured or digitised with large pixels.


We respect your protecting the identities of the girls why hide the identities of the bars?

Slippery
03-04-11, 13:49
I guess it might be, wait for this because it might surprise you. The gals are associated with the bars.Like I remember the names of the girls I pull out of bars there? Still makes no sense to me.

WestCoast1
03-04-11, 15:49
I agree! We mention bars here all of the time. I understand not wanting to identify the ladies. Besides, it got somewhat confusing trying to keep track of A, B then Z, Y and W. . Other than that, it was a great report.Concur. Interesting FR, but reading it was like trying to follow a single spaghetti noodle in a plate of spaghetti.

Python75
03-04-11, 16:10
Concur. Interesting FR, but reading it was like trying to follow a single spaghetti noodle in a plate of spaghetti.I gave up half way through, it got too confusing. For a field report there was no discernible information.

John Traveller
03-04-11, 16:48
I agree! We mention bars here all of the time. I understand not wanting to identify the ladies. Besides, it got somewhat confusing trying to keep track of A, B then Z, Y and W. . Other than that, it was a great report.Yeah, I understand it made the post less readable. I take the advice and on posts in the future I will find a better way of doing this.

Eedd2277
03-04-11, 17:30
INTRO: Second time in AC, and I had great expectations from my visit two years back. This time I stayed 18 days divided into 3 periods (was to Cordillera and Palawan in between).

CONCLUSION ON AC: The scene is still good but not as good as two years ago. Then ALL my girls stayed all night and provided excellent service, not too difficult to find them either (of course had to look around a bit to find someone who seemed the girl WANTED to go along with me). This time: 1/3 stayed LT. 1/3 ran after 1 hour, and 1/3 stayed half night / 4 hours (something that sometimes is the best). The service was very variable (ranging from excellent to mediocre) , and it was more hassles and expences at the bars. So I concur with previous postings on this. BTW: There is a saying that "thinking with your wrong head" can get you into trouble. Not true. I say it is your heart that you can get into trouble!HA HA like your conclusion and agree 100. When you spend a few weeks, it is easy to start building the emotional bonds. But then again. Nice report. Cheers Mate!

Phantomtiger2
03-05-11, 04:15
, I take out some girls from Bar-A, some good, but varying performances.

When I come back I go to Bar-B.

The next days I look around in different places, and take more girls from Bar-A. I also go to Bar-C where I meet R.

! Sorry, John T.

I do have to respond with my 2 cents here.

Don't get me wrong. The FR was good but could be alot better with more details. I'm sure many have enjoyed it but have to disagree with all the hidden agenda behind the mysterious bars-why the secret?

If you had read all my FR recently, I do my best to tell everyone which bars I visited so all will have a better insight as to what to expect. It's part of what we do here is to exchange stories and experiences (good and bad) but most important is INFORMATION. It's not going to help me or anyone else if someone had a lousy experience and only said I visited Bar A and had a great time at Bar B.

I can understand if you had a good time with a gal and wish not to disclose her name as you may want her to yourself and not wish to wait in line for her good services, but at the same time I would strongly object to anyone not Naming names or posting pics of gals that are scammers, runners or cheats. I hate reading about a bit*ch here and then ending up with the same bit*ch when I arrive as no one disclose who the bit*ch is or which bar she's from.

Remember, not telling where you visited is like me posting a FR saying I had a great time in the Philippines at location X without saying I was in AC.

Strictly IMO.

Cheers.

PT

Transporter
03-05-11, 04:33
Jeepenee up to 8 pesos

Ekspat
03-05-11, 09:26
Jeepenee up to 8 pesosOMG, my next trip is in deep sh* now.

X Man
03-05-11, 11:45
I can give you a loan to carry you over man. I can feel how you're hurting.

I'll be in MNL next week, probally AC shortly after. Send me a pm if you have time and effort to meet up. X.


OMG, my next trip is in deep sh* now.

Sxxxx
03-05-11, 12:43
OMG, my next trip is in deep sh* now.I just rang the travel agent and cancelled.

This requires some thought and affirmative action.

Thanks whoever for letting us know of this truly dramatic turn of events.

Next I suppose the beer will go up a few centavos.

Then what next.

I have cancelled.

Docwiltro
03-06-11, 12:10
Has anyone had experience of Jumping Jack's bar.

It is at the end of the street that runs along side the Orchid Resort, off Fields.

It is a small place, open 24 hours. Open bar, no dancers. Provides girls for ST in upstairs rooms for 700 pesos, girl and room included.

GanglesI barfined a girl from there last November. I took her LT but I can't remember what I paid (it seemed like it was in the p1, 400 range). Actually, I met this gal on the street earlier in the day and came back later in the evening. What was nice about the deal is that we sat outside on the veranda having a couple San Migs while it was raining: very nice and cozy.

Anyway, the girl was great. I should have barfined her again. BTW, the place is called Jumpin' Jack Flash.

Big Johnson2
03-07-11, 18:50
I was in AC last week for five days and there is still great girls and fun bars to drink in. In my five days I had one foursum, five threesum's and two ST's. Out of 21 girls taken out, I had one girl who wanted to go for a threesum and she said up front ST only and it was my last night, so I did not care. Other then her I had to kick most of them out of the ABC Hotel at noon.

It was my second trip of 2011 and I already scheduled my next trip for 4 March. I bar hop on average of 12 or more hours a day and I only take girls who show interest and I do not barfine out the bigger bars.

RobbI'd like to hear others opinion on this. I've only done single girls and twosomes, but from what I've seen the more girls you get, the more you have to keep them on track to what they are there for: sex with me. Many girls want twosomes so they can work 1/2 as hard. I've had twosomes come home and one wants to go into the bathroom (or watch TV) while you are doing her friend. Once you tell one to get out of the bathroom and come to get in the bed, I've had several not want to watch while you are doing their friend because they are shy. Many girls don't want to act like they are enjoying sex too much, because of not wanting to be called a horny sl*t. I usually see that one girl always wants to leave sooner than the other.

Now if you want a big party of drinking, girls acting crazy, etc. I can see how having a threesome or foursome could be fun. Is that what you are doing?

For me the best actual sex is one on one because if a girl really likes you she'll really get into it, want to do it multiple times, and stay until you kick her out.

Boricua
03-07-11, 20:17
Currently, I have plans for a trip to AC towards the end of June thru mid July. There is a possibility that I may have to alter my plans and go toward the end or mid July to August. I've never been to the PI during July and would like to know if the rains are very heavy in July and if that has an impact on how many and the quality of the ladies to be found in AC.

Fast Eddie 48
03-07-11, 22:21
Currently, I have plans for a trip to AC towards the end of June thru mid July. There is a possibility that I may have to alter my plans and go toward the end or mid July to August. I've never been to the PI during July and would like to know if the rains are very heavy in July and if that has an impact on how many and the quality of the ladies to be found in AC.To Boricua

Yes July to aug is the wettest month at PI and AC field ave is a mud hole, there still will be girl avalible just get a girl and stay in your hotel room all day if there are heavy rain and flooding.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
03-07-11, 22:36
I'd like to hear others opinion on this. I've only done single girls and twosomes, but from what I've seen the more girls you get, the more you have to keep them on track to what they are there for: sex with me. Many girls want twosomes so they can work 1/2 as hard. I've had twosomes come home and one wants to go into the bathroom (or watch TV) while you are doing her friend. Once you tell one to get out of the bathroom and come to get in the bed, I've had several not want to watch while you are doing their friend because they are shy. Many girls don't want to act like they are enjoying sex too much, because of not wanting to be called a horny sl*t. I usually see that one girl always wants to leave sooner than the other.

Now if you want a big party of drinking, girls acting crazy, etc. I can see how having a threesome or foursome could be fun. Is that what you are doing?

For me the best actual sex is one on one because if a girl really likes you she'll really get into it, want to do it multiple times, and stay until you kick her out.To Big John.

Everyone is different some of us like attention of many girl and I prefer one on one actions, I was done threesome a few time before just for the experience at a sauna in China second girl is offer for free only do BBBJ no FS just tip her 15 USD.

Fast Eddie 48

Robbaf
03-07-11, 22:54
I'd like to hear others opinion on this. I've only done single girls and twosomes, but from what I've seen the more girls you get, the more you have to keep them on track to what they are there for: sex with me. Many girls want twosomes so they can work 1/2 as hard. I've had twosomes come home and one wants to go into the bathroom (or watch TV) while you are doing her friend. Once you tell one to get out of the bathroom and come to get in the bed, I've had several not want to watch while you are doing their friend because they are shy. Many girls don't want to act like they are enjoying sex too much, because of not wanting to be called a horny sl*t. I usually see that one girl always wants to leave sooner than the other.

Now if you want a big party of drinking, girls acting crazy, etc. I can see how having a threesome or foursome could be fun. Is that what you are doing?

For me the best actual sex is one on one because if a girl really likes you she'll really get into it, want to do it multiple times, and stay until you kick her out. I do not take the girls back to the room for a drinking party. When we get back everyone showers and we all play together. I just got back from a three day trip yesterday and I had a threesum every night and one girl that I take is the key. She gets the other girls and when I was bar hopping without her Saturday night, I seen one who was with us on my last trip and she asked where she was. The girl told me that she really liked her and she made her feel at easy and she wanted to do another threesum with us.

Sunday night we bar hopped and got turned down by five girls before we found the right girl.

Robb

Robbaf
03-07-11, 23:03
To Boricua

Yes July to aug is the wettest month at PI and AC field ave is a mud hole, there still will be girl avalible just get a girl and stay in your hotel room all day if there are heavy rain and flooding.

Fast Eddie 48On my past weekend trip, it was raining Friday when I arrived (7 pm) and it rained Saturday, but it was nice Sunday. After living and working here for the last four years, the dry season is not always dry and the wet season is not always wet. Come when you can get the time and if it rains, it rains, but at least you are in AC!

Robb

Freezone
03-08-11, 00:21
Do I see a trend here. 1st some of the Field bars have raised their 1500p BF to 1800p, now the jeepneys have upped their prices.

So the question is whats next. If I had to guess, the hotels will go up next-just to follow the trend of course.

FZ

Mackin
03-08-11, 04:37
Been here a week and no computer available. Now there is one so I will give a short report and complete it when I get back home.

Rain a few days in the afternoon and evening. Didn't stop anything. Some have said the talent is not that good, I believe they need to look around. Many average but still quite a few cute ones. Certainly not a shortage. 3000 p seem to be better looking but stay away as they don't perform well and to many don'ts for me anyway.

One bar was 1800 but most at 1500 as far as the ones we went too. Of course there is the 3000P also. Don't know how they pick those as many 1500 were better looking.

Perimiter road group of bars that include LIA had a few lookers. Nice little gathering last Friday for the 3X afternoon get together.

Off to check out subic so will see how it is.

Mechanic11
03-08-11, 04:51
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Chocha Monger
03-08-11, 05:54
I'd like to hear others opinion on this. I've only done single girls and twosomes, but from what I've seen the more girls you get, the more you have to keep them on track to what they are there for: sex with me. Many girls want twosomes so they can work 1/2 as hard. I've had twosomes come home and one wants to go into the bathroom (or watch TV) while you are doing her friend. Once you tell one to get out of the bathroom and come to get in the bed, I've had several not want to watch while you are doing their friend because they are shy. Many girls don't want to act like they are enjoying sex too much, because of not wanting to be called a horny sl*t. I usually see that one girl always wants to leave sooner than the other.

Now if you want a big party of drinking, girls acting crazy, etc. I can see how having a threesome or foursome could be fun. Is that what you are doing?

For me the best actual sex is one on one because if a girl really likes you she'll really get into it, want to do it multiple times, and stay until you kick her out. The bad thing about having two or more girls at the same time is that it only takes one girl with a bad attitude to act as a negative influence on the other (s). Also, the girls will act differently around each other knowing that gossip will make its way back to the bar the following day. If a mediocre performer gets by you then you better chase her out fast before she ruins the rest of the stable with her negativity. Bang the whiner first then tell her get on like she's been shit on. Keep the one with the good attitude and tell her she'll get the tip that the whiner forfeited in the morning.

Eedd2277
03-08-11, 06:48
I do not take the girls back to the room for a drinking party. When we get back everyone showers and we all play together. I just got back from a three day trip yesterday and I had a threesum every night and one girl that I take is the key. She gets the other girls and when I was bar hopping without her Saturday night, I seen one who was with us on my last trip and she asked where she was. The girl told me that she really liked her and she made her feel at easy and she wanted to do another threesum with us.

Sunday night we bar hopped and got turned down by five girls before we found the right girl.

RobbI agree with Robb. Based on my experience, its important to hit it off with the first girl. She is the "queen bee" you want to bang and is ready for the adventure & fun. Then you take her along to other bars and use her to select the other girls, so that you can see the chemistry and ensure the other girls are in sync. Be careful that she is not just pulling her roommate for the money etc. Also, usually not a good idea to pick the 2nd girl from the same bar, but you never know.

It's really great when everybody is in sync and there is nothing like it. Otherwise it can be a real pain.

Cheers mate!

Ed

WestCoast1
03-08-11, 07:50
I'd like to hear others opinion on this. I've only done single girls and twosomes, but from what I've seen the more girls you get, the more you have to keep them on track to what they are there for: sex with me. Many girls want twosomes so they can work 1/2 as hard. I've had twosomes come home and one wants to go into the bathroom (or watch TV) while you are doing her friend. Once you tell one to get out of the bathroom and come to get in the bed, I've had several not want to watch while you are doing their friend because they are shy. Many girls don't want to act like they are enjoying sex too much, because of not wanting to be called a horny sl*t. I usually see that one girl always wants to leave sooner than the other.

Now if you want a big party of drinking, girls acting crazy, etc. I can see how having a threesome or foursome could be fun. Is that what you are doing?

For me the best actual sex is one on one because if a girl really likes you she'll really get into it, want to do it multiple times, and stay until you kick her out. I've done plenty of two-somes in AC. I specifically ask them if they are OK with some lesbo. I never let one hide when she is not in use. She is manning the camera while I'm bangin' her friend. I've only had the shy thing once (horrible experience, I'll post it later) , but possibly that's because I discuss up-front what I expect them to do.

WorldAmpTour
03-08-11, 10:23
Hey fellas,

Wanted to say what's up. Been a member of sfredbook. Com for a while and they always mention this forum so I thought I would join. Since I will be posting my trip report on sfredbook, I'll post mine here as well so that folks on this board will read it. Reason being reading the most recents topics on this board, I'm learning more about:

- The Korean invasion and their willingness to drop money like its nothing, willing to barfine all the girls to show off, not even caring to keep them long time and will bang them for 3 minutes.

- The theory of "runners" which I did not really run into on my last trip to AC back in Nov 2010. Had to kick some girls out. One girl tried to come back to my room before her shift started in hopes she did not have to go back.

- The uptick in bar fine costs (hopefully not attributed to the Koreans or the young guys willing to drop major cash to make themselves look good)

I'll make sure to report on these observations as well as any good places to eat too.

Anyway, I'll be in AC the week of 3/14. 3/20 staying at the Pacific Breeze if anyone want to roll out for a night or two to have fun. I'll be with a AC rookie and one AC veteran. I consider myself to be in the middle of the pack with experience.

Word_AMP_Tour starting strong in 2011!

Patty Boy
03-08-11, 10:50
Hi guys, April is going to be my first time to the PI / Angeles City. I am wondering how to handle money matters. I'll be staying for about 3 weeks. How much cash should I bring? Also how do you keep your cash without losing it? The last time I went to Thailand I kept it in the in room safe (like $2000 USD worth) , but realized that that wasn't really a good place to put it because the hotel staff can easily get into that. Also carrying it around on you does not seem like a good idea.

Anyway, just wondering how you guys handle your cash matters there.

GreenBud
03-08-11, 13:12
Hi guys, April is going to be my first time to the PI / Angeles City. I am wondering how to handle money matters. I'll be staying for about 3 weeks. How much cash should I bring? Also how do you keep your cash without losing it? The last time I went to Thailand I kept it in the in room safe (like $2000 USD worth) , but realized that that wasn't really a good place to put it because the hotel staff can easily get into that. Also carrying it around on you does not seem like a good idea.

Anyway, just wondering how you guys handle your cash matters there. Safest way would be to get an ATM card (Plus or Cirrus). Best way is to get an ATM card that doesn't charge a foreign transaction fee and refunds the ATM transaction fee.

You can also get traveler's checks. But you will have to pay the transaction fee. Note: 10 years ago, the banks required you to have the original receipt.

WestCoast1
03-08-11, 14:27
Hi guys, April is going to be my first time to the PI / Angeles City. I am wondering how to handle money matters. I'll be staying for about 3 weeks. How much cash should I bring? Also how do you keep your cash without losing it? The last time I went to Thailand I kept it in the in room safe (like $2000 USD worth) , but realized that that wasn't really a good place to put it because the hotel staff can easily get into that. Also carrying it around on you does not seem like a good idea.

Anyway, just wondering how you guys handle your cash matters there. Don't be carrying that amount. Stepping off the plane with $100 in pesos (p5000) is fine. I typically withdraw p10, 000 at a time from the ATM if I can. Many machines limit you to less. You make a target of yourself by carrying large.

Mc Don
03-08-11, 15:36
Best friends tend to work in the same bar. No better chemistry then kissing friends!


Also, usually not a good idea to pick the 2nd girl from the same bar, but you never know.

It's really great when everybody is in sync and there is nothing like it. Otherwise it can be a real pain.

Cheers mate!

Ed

Mc Don
03-08-11, 15:40
AMEN!

Last girl I kicked out of my room was exactly that. Blabing on trying to fuck everything up. After telling her few times to stop it and even pulling her aside she continued on so I just threw her out. I should have went back to the bar and ask for my money back but it was more fun seeing her struggle to dress up outside the room in front of the ABC pool. Normally I don't react like that but I warned her about 3 or 4 times.


The bad thing about having two or more girls at the same time is that it only takes one girl with a bad attitude to act as a negative influence on the other (s). Also, the girls will act differently around each other knowing that gossip will make its way back to the bar the following day. If a mediocre performer gets by you then you better chase her out fast before she ruins the rest of the stable with her negativity. Bang the whiner first then tell her get on like she's been shit on. Keep the one with the good attitude and tell her she'll get the tip that the whiner forfeited in the morning.

Patty Boy
03-09-11, 07:28
For my first trip to the PI, I realized that my plane is landing in MNL at 11pm, with my final destination being Angeles City (I believe I take a taxi?). One question I had was that since I will need to be taking a taxi so late at night, whether it is safe? I have heard of taxis sometimes taking passengers on random detours, and I am pretty wary of taxi drivers in foreign countries just based on past experience. Just want to be safe.

WestCoast1
03-09-11, 08:08
For my first trip to the PI, I realized that my plane is landing in MNL at 11pm, with my final destination being Angeles City (I believe I take a taxi?). One question I had was that since I will need to be taking a taxi so late at night, whether it is safe? I have heard of taxis sometimes taking passengers on random detours, and I am pretty wary of taxi drivers in foreign countries just based on past experience. Just want to be safe.Do one of two things:

1. Change your AC reservation. Make a reservation in Manila for the evening at the Swagman Hotel, Malate (or nearby). The next morning grab a lazy breakfast and take the bus ("Fly-the-bus" from in front of the Swagman Hotel) to AC. I think it departs at about 9am, then again around 12 noon. Much cheaper than taking a taxi.

2. Don't change anything. Have your AC hotel provide their car for pickup at the airport. This will run you 2500-2800 pesos ($50-$60). The uniformed hotel driver will meet you at the airport, load your bags in the car, and take you directly to your hotel in AC. About 90 minutes at night when there is little traffic in Manila. Same trip during the day runs 2 hours. Many hotels in AC provide this service.

Don't try and haggle with the airport taxi drivers to take you to AC. They will want a lot more than p2800.

Rick Hunter
03-09-11, 10:15
Well I finally made my first trip to AC after being through Manila maybe a dozen times. After going there for a few days I returned to Manila and could not see what the fuss regarding AC is all about and doubt I will be back. It could be perhaps that I have lived in Asia for a few too many years and am jaded so seeing a whole street of girlie bars does not impress me as much as it would have when I first arrived in Asia. I can see how for someone coming from London, NYC, Toronto or Sydney and AC was the first place they saw pussy in Asia would be very impressed, both with the quantity and that the girls do not weigh 200 lbs.

Do not get me worng. I quite enjoy going to the Philippines and enjoy Makati considerably but AC did not really do it for me. My impression was that the looks of the girls on average was below that of what one finds on Burgos or Edsa Complex, or even just working or walking around Greenbelt. Almost invariably when I found a decent looking girl she was a "show girl" and had a P3, 000 bar fine and expected a P500 to P1000. I am not a cheap charlie but if one of the attractions for AC is that it is supposed to be cheaper than Manila for good looking girls I did not find that Most of the P1, 500. P1, 800 girls were not that attractive to me.

Yes I realize that bar fines range from 2, 200, excluding Rogues, to 3, 900 on Burgos and the girls want a tip but it has been a long time since I paid a bar fine on Burgos as it is super easy just to meet girls before or after work or on their off day so the total cost for a good looker in Makati and AC seemed to be about the same to me but the hotels in Makati, eating estabilishments and malls are far superior to AC.

I found drinking to be about the same as it seemed in every bar in AC you needed to buy a girl a drink to have a chance to talk with her so while price was cheaper than Manila in terms of quantity of drinks it soon made up the difference.

In regards to girls over the two nights I was there I pulled 4 girls and had too CIM from girls on blow job row.

After arriving and checking in around 4pm I did my first exploratory walk and got a BJ a caddyshack. Did some bar hoping for a while before grabbing dinner at the Swiss Chalet hotel, and I have to say the restaurant there was the highlight of AC for me. The hopped some more before going short time with a show girl from Blue Nile. Had every monger's nightmare with the condom breaking, the girl could not seem to have cared less. Bar hopped some more before short timing some one from Angel Witch, who had no idea if the bar was related to the Angel Witch in Nana or Walking Street with exactly the same logo. She spent the night.

After kicking her out in the late morning debated taking the hotel car back to Makati but figured I was booked in one more day so I should stay. Had brunch and then got a foot massage for an hour to kill some time. Took a trike up to Clarkton Hotel and then walked all the way back to Fields stopping in at various bars to have a drink or play some pool. Once I was back to fields I did not see anything interesting so went to gobblers for blow job.

Had dinner, bar hopped some more. Eventually found a girl from Camelot who I bar fined around 10. Went back to the hotel for a short time. She wanted to then either stay the night or bar hop but I kicked her out because while decent looking and fun in bed her head was not screwed on right. A cutish 20 year old who I would recommend for a short time though. Name was Jacklyn or something like that.

More bar hoping but was really striking out. Had finally given up and was walking back to the hotel at about 1:30 or 2:00 when a cute girl working the door a La Bamba tried to pull me in. Joked with her on the street for a bit before deciding she was seemed fun so had her come into the bar with me. She reasonable looking and the right amount of fun and sluttiness in the bar so I barfined her and she spend the night. RennerRose or something was her name and I would recommend her. After kicking her out the next morning I grabbed the hotel car back to Makati.

That night I bar hopped a little bit on Burgos before meeting a sweet girl who came to Burgos around 8:45pm to meet me for dinner and a night of fun. What amazed me was how much easier it was to find better looking girls, and who could joke around, laugh and have the right level of sluttiness.

While the last two girls I had in AC were decent, the last being the best, for me it really seemed like trying to find a needle in a haystack to find a decent girl in AC and when said girl was found it was not that much cheaper than Manila.

While I think Pattaya is superior to Bangkok for mongering, although BKK is great in its own right, I found that AC was lacking compared to Manila. I guess for the AC regulars my question is what makes you prefer AC to Manila?

X Man
03-09-11, 10:38
11pm? Is that NWA flight? Don't answer this question as I could care less. And have become weary of newbies trying to fry me for riduculous things. Not saying that you are a newbie.

Agree with WC, spend a night in MNL. Places in Ermita or Malate are recommended. If you tire of MBCafe (LAC) hit EDSA complex.

Nevertheless, if anyone know a reliable transit to AC around midnight, please come forward.


Do one of two things:

1. Change your AC reservation. Make a reservation in Manila for the evening at the Swagman Hotel, Malate (or nearby). The next morning grab a lazy breakfast and take the bus ("Fly-the-bus" from in front of the Swagman Hotel) to AC. I think it departs at about 9am, then again around 12 noon. Much cheaper than taking a taxi.

2. Don't change anything. Have your AC hotel provide their car for pickup at the airport. This will run you 2500-2800 pesos ($50-$60). The uniformed hotel driver will meet you at the airport, load your bags in the car, and take you directly to your hotel in AC. About 90 minutes at night when there is little traffic in Manila. Same trip during the day runs 2 hours. Many hotels in AC provide this service.

Don't try and haggle with the airport taxi drivers to take you to AC. They will want a lot more than p2800.

Pussycheck
03-09-11, 11:34
Well I finally made my first trip to AC after being through Manila maybe a dozen times. After going there for a few days I returned to Manila and could not see what the fuss regarding AC is all about and doubt I will be back. It could be perhaps that I have lived in Asia for a few too many years and am jaded so seeing a whole street of girlie bars does not impress me as much as it would have when I first arrived in Asia. I can see how for someone coming from London, NYC, Toronto or Sydney and AC was the first place they saw pussy in Asia would be very impressed, both with the quantity and that the girls do not weigh 200 lbs.

Do not get me worng. I quite enjoy going to the Philippines and enjoy Makati considerably but AC did not really do it for me. My impression was that the looks of the girls on average was below that of what one finds on Burgos or Edsa Complex, or even just working or walking around Greenbelt. Almost invariably when I found a decent looking girl she was a "show girl" and had a P3, 000 bar fine and expected a P500 to P1000. I am not a cheap charlie but if one of the attractions for AC is that it is supposed to be cheaper than Manila for good looking girls I did not find that Most of the P1, 500. P1, 800 girls were not that attractive to me.

Yes I realize that bar fines range from 2, 200, excluding Rogues, to 3, 900 on Burgos and the girls want a tip but it has been a long time since I paid a bar fine on Burgos as it is super easy just to meet girls before or after work or on their off day so the total cost for a good looker in Makati and AC seemed to be about the same to me but the hotels in Makati, eating estabilishments and malls are far superior to AC.

I found drinking to be about the same as it seemed in every bar in AC you needed to buy a girl a drink to have a chance to talk with her so while price was cheaper than Manila in terms of quantity of drinks it soon made up the difference.

In regards to girls over the two nights I was there I pulled 4 girls and had too CIM from girls on blow job row.

After arriving and checking in around 4pm I did my first exploratory walk and got a BJ a caddyshack. Did some bar hoping for a while before grabbing dinner at the Swiss Chalet hotel, and I have to say the restaurant there was the highlight of AC for me. The hopped some more before going short time with a show girl from Blue Nile. Had every monger's nightmare with the condom breaking, the girl could not seem to have cared less. Bar hopped some more before short timing some one from Angel Witch, who had no idea if the bar was related to the Angel Witch in Nana or Walking Street with exactly the same logo. She spent the night.

After kicking her out in the late morning debated taking the hotel car back to Makati but figured I was booked in one more day so I should stay. Had brunch and then got a foot massage for an hour to kill some time. Took a trike up to Clarkton Hotel and then walked all the way back to Fields stopping in at various bars to have a drink or play some pool. Once I was back to fields I did not see anything interesting so went to gobblers for blow job.

Had dinner, bar hopped some more. Eventually found a girl from Camelot who I bar fined around 10. Went back to the hotel for a short time. She wanted to then either stay the night or bar hop but I kicked her out because while decent looking and fun in bed her head was not screwed on right. A cutish 20 year old who I would recommend for a short time though. Name was Jacklyn or something like that.

More bar hoping but was really striking out. Had finally given up and was walking back to the hotel at about 1:30 or 2:00 when a cute girl working the door a La Bamba tried to pull me in. Joked with her on the street for a bit before deciding she was seemed fun so had her come into the bar with me. She reasonable looking and the right amount of fun and sluttiness in the bar so I barfined her and she spend the night. RennerRose or something was her name and I would recommend her. After kicking her out the next morning I grabbed the hotel car back to Makati.

That night I bar hopped a little bit on Burgos before meeting a sweet girl who came to Burgos around 8:45pm to meet me for dinner and a night of fun. What amazed me was how much easier it was to find better looking girls, and who could joke around, laugh and have the right level of sluttiness.

While the last two girls I had in AC were decent, the last being the best, for me it really seemed like trying to find a needle in a haystack to find a decent girl in AC and when said girl was found it was not that much cheaper than Manila.

While I think Pattaya is superior to Bangkok for mongering, although BKK is great in its own right, I found that AC was lacking compared to Manila. I guess for the AC regulars my question is what makes you prefer AC to Manila? I preferred AC to Manila so far because of the much higher barfines on P. Burgos or also higher barfines in the bars in EDSA complex. A good idea is just to get the phone numbers from the girls in bars and to meet them either before their work, after or on their day off. I agree with you in general the girls in Manila are much more better looking than the ones in AC. In AC I need about 50 girls to take 1. I'm looking for good looking girls (from 7 out of 10) who provide a very good service. In Manila you find probably the best looking girls in the clubs in Quezon City but their prices are too high for my budget (from 12, 000 Pesos).6000 Pesos are the upper limit for a very cute girl (from 8. 5 out of 10) who provides an excellent I'm ready to pay in the Philippines.

Mc Don
03-09-11, 14:41
I guess for the AC regulars my question is what makes you prefer AC to Manila?CONVENIENCE! 24/7 all on one street. AC is great for few days. You did not stay long enough to really experience AC properly. I like Manila but I still think AC is great. Price to me does not matter but the fact that in AC I have 10 000 girls to chose from all walking distance from my hotel as oppose to maybe 20 000 in Manila but only 1-2000 walking distance and the rest an hour + taxi ride is the killer. My next trip is only 5 days or if you like 110 hours all up so to spend 10-15 hours in cabs is way too much for me.

Robbaf
03-09-11, 22:04
Well I finally made my first trip to AC after being through Manila maybe a dozen times. After going there for a few days I returned to Manila and could not see what the fuss regarding AC is all about and doubt I will be back.

I am not a cheap charlie but if one of the attractions for AC is that it is supposed to be cheaper than Manila for good looking girls I did not find that Most of the P1, 500. P1, 800 girls were not that attractive to me. Good report and I understand your points.

I also travel a lot to Manila and AC. Mostly I am alone in Manila and I am with friends in AC. If you are with friends in AC (3-5 guys) the bar hopping is a lot more fun. In Manila I bar hop alone and I enjoy myself.

I think the key to what you posted is the word "Cheap". A lot of ex-pats retired in AC, maybe because of being stationed at the US bases and meeting their wife back in the day. Now they do not have a lot of money and they live on the cheap. I am not saying all, but a lot of retires in AC live on retirement checks and AC offers alcohol and sex at a lower price then Manila and the ability to short time. A lot of bars you go to in AC you will see a table of men that have no interest in the girls. They follow the happy hours and most of them are happy and have served their time and are just enjoying life.

I have fun in AC or Manila and I think a lot of that is because I go out bar hopping with a positive attitude and enjoy the experience. IMHO that is what the best part of the Philippines is: there is something for everyone!

Robb

Fast Eddie 48
03-10-11, 00:23
Well I finally made my first trip to AC after being through Manila maybe a dozen times. After going there for a few days I returned to Manila and could not see what the fuss regarding AC is all about and doubt I will be back. It could be perhaps that I have lived in Asia for a few too many years and am jaded so seeing a whole street of girlie bars does not impress me as much as it would have when I first arrived in Asia. I can see how for someone coming from London, NYC, Toronto or Sydney and AC was the first place they saw pussy in Asia would be very impressed, both with the quantity and that the girls do not weigh 200 lbs.

Do not get me worng. I quite enjoy going to the Philippines and enjoy Makati considerably but AC did not really do it for me. My impression was that the looks of the girls on average was below that of what one finds on Burgos or Edsa Complex, or even just working or walking around Greenbelt. Almost invariably when I found a decent looking girl she was a "show girl" and had a P3, 000 bar fine and expected a P500 to P1000. I am not a cheap charlie but if one of the attractions for AC is that it is supposed to be cheaper than Manila for good looking girls I did not find that Most of the P1, 500. P1, 800 girls were not that attractive to me.

Yes I realize that bar fines range from 2, 200, excluding Rogues, to 3, 900 on Burgos and the girls want a tip but it has been a long time since I paid a bar fine on Burgos as it is super easy just to meet girls before or after work or on their off day so the total cost for a good looker in Makati and AC seemed to be about the same to me but the hotels in Makati, eating estabilishments and malls are far superior to AC.

I found drinking to be about the same as it seemed in every bar in AC you needed to buy a girl a drink to have a chance to talk with her so while price was cheaper than Manila in terms of quantity of drinks it soon made up the difference.

In regards to girls over the two nights I was there I pulled 4 girls and had too CIM from girls on blow job row.

After arriving and checking in around 4pm I did my first exploratory walk and got a BJ a caddyshack. Did some bar hoping for a while before grabbing dinner at the Swiss Chalet hotel, and I have to say the restaurant there was the highlight of AC for me. The hopped some more before going short time with a show girl from Blue Nile. Had every monger's nightmare with the condom breaking, the girl could not seem to have cared less. Bar hopped some more before short timing some one from Angel Witch, who had no idea if the bar was related to the Angel Witch in Nana or Walking Street with exactly the same logo. She spent the night.

After kicking her out in the late morning debated taking the hotel car back to Makati but figured I was booked in one more day so I should stay. Had brunch and then got a foot massage for an hour to kill some time. Took a trike up to Clarkton Hotel and then walked all the way back to Fields stopping in at various bars to have a drink or play some pool. Once I was back to fields I did not see anything interesting so went to gobblers for blow job.

Had dinner, bar hopped some more. Eventually found a girl from Camelot who I bar fined around 10. Went back to the hotel for a short time. She wanted to then either stay the night or bar hop but I kicked her out because while decent looking and fun in bed her head was not screwed on right. A cutish 20 year old who I would recommend for a short time though. Name was Jacklyn or something like that.

More bar hoping but was really striking out. Had finally given up and was walking back to the hotel at about 1:30 or 2:00 when a cute girl working the door a La Bamba tried to pull me in. Joked with her on the street for a bit before deciding she was seemed fun so had her come into the bar with me. She reasonable looking and the right amount of fun and sluttiness in the bar so I barfined her and she spend the night. RennerRose or something was her name and I would recommend her. After kicking her out the next morning I grabbed the hotel car back to Makati.

That night I bar hopped a little bit on Burgos before meeting a sweet girl who came to Burgos around 8:45pm to meet me for dinner and a night of fun. What amazed me was how much easier it was to find better looking girls, and who could joke around, laugh and have the right level of sluttiness.

While the last two girls I had in AC were decent, the last being the best, for me it really seemed like trying to find a needle in a haystack to find a decent girl in AC and when said girl was found it was not that much cheaper than Manila.

While I think Pattaya is superior to Bangkok for mongering, although BKK is great in its own right, I found that AC was lacking compared to Manila. I guess for the AC regulars my question is what makes you prefer AC to Manila? To Rick

You are right that AC is not for everyone and cost for everything have gone up alot the last 5 yr, but it is still cheaper than Manila, if you are use to high end city and don't care to spend more money for higher quality girl you should just go to Macau and Bangkok, AC is just a big shit hole for cheap ass for many people.

Fast Eddie 48

Freezone
03-10-11, 01:22
Safest way would be to get an ATM card (Plus or Cirrus). Best way is to get an ATM card that doesn't charge a foreign transaction fee and refunds the ATM transaction fee.

Sadly, The free ATM card with every year this option is getting less and less. I had the TD Bank ATM for awhile and it was exactly as you said (no fees) and only the usual mandatory 1% exchange fee. But sadly, even this card have restrictions now and no longer totally free.

Freezone
03-10-11, 01:34
For my first trip to the PI, I realized that my plane is landing in MNL at 11pm, with my final destination being Angeles City (I believe I take a taxi?). One question I had was that since I will need to be taking a taxi so late at night, whether it is safe? I have heard of taxis sometimes taking passengers on random detours, and I am pretty wary of taxi drivers in foreign countries just based on past experience. Just want to be safe.Or another alternative is to head for AC via the regular bus / coaches when you arrive.

1) go thru customs.

2) get a cab at the airport and tell them to take you to Victory Liner bus station in Pasay. It should only be a 10min cab ride at that time of nite. Buses go to AC 24hrs a day, but less frequent at nite.

3) take the Victory Bus to Dau bus station (about 1hr or so from Manila at that time of nite).

4) take a trike from Dau station to your hotel (about 10mins if you are staying in Fields).

That's what I've done in the past on late arrivals.

Cheers.

FZ

Transporter
03-10-11, 02:25
For my first trip to the PI, I realized that my plane is landing in MNL at 11pm, with my final destination being Angeles City (I believe I take a taxi?). One question I had was that since I will need to be taking a taxi so late at night, whether it is safe? I have heard of taxis sometimes taking passengers on random detours, and I am pretty wary of taxi drivers in foreign countries just based on past experience. Just want to be safe.If you worry about your safety more than a few bucks, you can book a private car.

Your hotel can arrange it, or you can go online and book a private car to pick you up by yourself.

The prices will vary depending upon how private a car you want.

Sometimes you can split expenses with other riders as there may be a couple of people taking the same car to AC, then it is almost the same price as the bus. If you have to pay for the car by yourself, then expect to be around 2000pessos.

MauiDude
03-10-11, 03:08
Hi guys, April is going to be my first time to the PI / Angeles City. I am wondering how to handle money matters. I'll be staying for about 3 weeks. How much cash should I bring? Also how do you keep your cash without losing it? The last time I went to Thailand I kept it in the in room safe (like $2000 USD worth) , but realized that that wasn't really a good place to put it because the hotel staff can easily get into that. Also carrying it around on you does not seem like a good idea.

Anyway, just wondering how you guys handle your cash matters there. I have carried as much as 9000 USD. But yes it is risky to carry anything here in Philippines.

In angeles. You have hotels with safe deposit boxes or in room safes.

I think you are safe in the safe? Mostly. I would not worry about it.

One person has a key.

And if you go to a place like wild orchid or orchid hotel its no problem,

I do have a bank account here in Philippines and use a local atm card for bdo bank. So no bank charges.

Other wise I have paid up to ten dollars or more just to get money from atm using a card from USA?

That adds up.

If you do carry more money just make sure no one sees it and that you keep it seperate from spending.

Its funny to pull out your wallet somewhere and people are watching to see what is in your wallet.

Also be careful of pick pockets. Keep your hands touching your pockets and if you have lots of cash.

I take tourist transport. Like private cars and pay more for the safety or bus like southern cross.

Rick Hunter
03-10-11, 03:56
Good report and I understand your points.

I also travel a lot to Manila and AC. Mostly I am alone in Manila and I am with friends in AC. If you are with friends in AC (3-5 guys) the bar hopping is a lot more fun. In Manila I bar hop alone and I enjoy myself.

I think the key to what you posted is the word "Cheap". A lot of ex-pats retired in AC, maybe because of being stationed at the US bases and meeting their wife back in the day. Now they do not have a lot of money and they live on the cheap. I am not saying all, but a lot of retires in AC live on retirement checks and AC offers alcohol and sex at a lower price then Manila and the ability to short time. A lot of bars you go to in AC you will see a table of men that have no interest in the girls. They follow the happy hours and most of them are happy and have served their time and are just enjoying life.

I have fun in AC or Manila and I think a lot of that is because I go out bar hopping with a positive attitude and enjoy the experience. IMHO that is what the best part of the Philippines is: there is something for everyone!

RobbThat is a good way to sum up Robb. While having a positive attitude in both places I guess Makati is just more for me than AC. I can totally see how bar hopping with buddies would be more fun than bar hoping alone in AC where as Manila has more options catering to the solo business traveller. I did speak with a buddy when I got back home to HK who knows the Phil well and he said he never gone to AC solo only with a bunch of other guys.

FurryFriend
03-10-11, 08:42
where as Manila has more options catering to the solo business traveller.What does Manila have that AC doesn't have for solo travellers?

MauiDude
03-10-11, 11:26
What does Manila have that AC doesn't have for solo travellers?Manila can be fun. When I first came here I did enjoy the many places there and have met some nice and naughty girls.

There.

But manila has more idiots, noise pollution and bs then angeles.

Angeles is still a ghetto but I love the girls here.

And yes manila is great for meeting girls but cost more money?

There are some very hot girls in manila. But I like angeles and do just fine.

When I am tired of here I go somewhere even more quiet.

PolyOrchid
03-10-11, 17:40
When I am tired of here I go somewhere even more quiet.Hi MD,

Hope you are well; met you and your love in Pattaya a few months back.

I'm moving back to PI myself in June. Will be trying out Dumaguete, a town I hear some wonderful things about. Since all my work is now online, I am no longer tied to big cities and am hoping to enjoy a slower-paced life in Dumaguete.

Have been in Saigon since 1 December. YMMV, but I'd call this the Milwaukee of Asia when it comes to ready, willing, and able women.

Yes, that bad.

And, unlike Milwaukee, no bowling alleys here.

Be well, my friend.

Poly

Sammon
03-10-11, 18:06
What does Manila have that AC doesn't have for solo travellers?Manila has plenty of avenues where you can get girls. Manila has lots of sightseeeing places and malls with movie theaters for you to take your preferred girls. Manila girls tend to be more hard core unless you meet the girl through regular dating sites.

AC has bunch of young inexperienced girls. It is a fun place to have a drink, play with the girls, barfine and fuck.

Yes, AC does not have much as daytime activities, so if the girl leaves early you have nothing to do. However many girls stay with you all day till they have to go back to work.

I would say AC is a happening place. Manila is just a big city and all the problems associated with it.

Rampana
03-10-11, 18:13
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1132249 Manila girls tend to be more hard core unless you meet the girl through regular dating sites. [/QUOTE]

Can you please. Elaborate this a bit further?
Do you mean "hardcore" in terms of sex or "hardcore" in getting them off their knickers?

Ram

Patty Boy
03-10-11, 21:39
Not sure what you mean by NWA? It is a korean airlines flight. Yes, I am a newbie.

So I take it from the responses regarding staying the night or getting a private driver that I was correct in assuming that traveling that late at night with a taxi is unsafe?

I am thinking of just taking the private hotel car to Angeles as some have suggested, but since I have never been to Manila, I am also thinking that perhaps I should stay for a night or two there too? Originally, I was planning to head straight for Angeles and stay there. So it's safe to take a taxi late at night from the airport to a hotel in Manila?


11pm? Is that NWA flight? Don't answer this question as I could care less. And have become weary of newbies trying to fry me for riduculous things. Not saying that you are a newbie.

Agree with WC, spend a night in MNL. Places in Ermita or Malate are recommended. If you tire of MBCafe (LAC) hit EDSA complex.

Nevertheless, if anyone know a reliable transit to AC around midnight, please come forward.

Mongrinastrlnd
03-11-11, 00:36
Not sure what you mean by NWA? It is a korean airlines flight. Yes, I am a newbie.By NWA I believe he's referring to the ex-northwest route JFK-NRT-MNL which is now operated by Delta as DL172/173.

Arrives NAIA at about 22:30 if its not late, which it often is.

Mc Don
03-11-11, 02:31
Manila has plenty of avenues where you can get girls. Manila has lots of sightseeeing places and malls with movie theaters for you to take your preferred girls. Manila girls tend to be more hard core unless you meet the girl through regular dating sites.

AC has bunch of young inexperienced girls. It is a fun place to have a drink, play with the girls, barfine and fuck.

Yes, AC does not have much as daytime activities, so if the girl leaves early you have nothing to do. However many girls stay with you all day till they have to go back to work.

I would say AC is a happening place. Manila is just a big city and all the problems associated with it. Great sum up. Nothing to do but girls in AC. If you are serial and want to do 5-6 girls a day then that is the place to go. If you are content with just one or two then Manila is a better option. I prefer to start thing off in AC and then end up in Makati. As for hardcore man, you have that in AC as well. You need to find the right girl and click just like in Manila. In Manila you will struggle to find a bar girl that will want do stay with you 12+ hours (long time) in AC that has never been an issue for me. As Sammon said usually they leave before their shift or when I kick them out. Makati bar girls will look for ST or leave around 6am. Most of them are local and still leave with their family. I think AC is great if sex is the only thing on your mind. For me the combination of AC + another destination is the way to go.

Big Johnson2
03-11-11, 03:21
Been here a week and no computer available. Now there is one so I will give a short report and complete it when I get back home.

Rain a few days in the afternoon and evening. Didn't stop anything. Some have said the talent is not that good, I believe they need to look around. Many average but still quite a few cute ones. Certainly not a shortage. 3000 p seem to be better looking but stay away as they don't perform well and to many don'ts for me anyway.

One bar was 1800 but most at 1500 as far as the ones we went too. Of course there is the 3000P also. Don't know how they pick those as many 1500 were better looking.

Perimiter road group of bars that include LIA had a few lookers. Nice little gathering last Friday for the 3X afternoon get together.

Off to check out subic so will see how it is. I agree some 1500 girls are better looking than the 3000. I believe they choose the 3000s on height and larger boobs, maybe lighter skin helps too. I'm referring to the DH chain of bars.

Golden Nile has all priced girls. Upstairs most are 2000p. Downstairs is stupid where the girl chooses what she wants to be. They have stupid titles feature dancer 2500, and model 3500, and regular girls 1500. One of girls I thought about taking out had called herself a "featured dancer" and her BF was 2500, the problem was that all the girls upstairs were 2000p and she wasn't as good as many of them. Another girl there who was pretty called herself a model and she was 3500p, but I had seen her at least 2 years ago sucking another girls tits on a bar. Her skin also felt saggy. Does smoking do this to the girls? Anyway GN lets average girls price themselves too high.

I have never had a 3000P girl in the Doll House chain of bars. My thought is that these girls already think they are above the other girls. My last trip I had drinks with two 3000P girls and both were really not interested in going. My thought is that for LT. 3000p girls are not good, because they have such a big opinion of themselves, so I've never consummated with one and I really don't seek them out. Have any of you had any good luck with these girls? I am not talking about ST. I'm more interested in LT and maybe they want to even be your GF.

Amjeck
03-11-11, 04:24
I have never had a 3000P girl in the Doll House chain of bars. My thought is that these girls already think they are above the other girls. My last trip I had drinks with two 3000P girls and both were really not interested in going. My thought is that for LT. 3000p girls are not good, because they have such a big opinion of themselves, so I've never consummated with one and I really don't seek them out. Have any of you had any good luck with these girls? I am not talking about ST. I'm more interested in LT and maybe they want to even be your GF.I've been with several 3000p girls. The ones I had were very pretty. None of them stayed LT. 50% were good fun. I returned one back to the bar because she failed to perform, and I got my money back.

The only thing they MIGHT have over a lesser expensive girl is better looks. So, if that is your criteria then I see this as the only reason to choose a 3000p girl.

Freezone
03-12-11, 01:35
When I am tired of here I go somewhere even more quiet.Ha, You call AC quiet. Man, you have not been to my hotel and all the noise outside my window. Quiet is being at home.

Cheers

Socker
03-12-11, 08:10
I have never had a 3000P girl in the Doll House chain of bars. My thought is that these girls already think they are above the other girls. My last trip I had drinks with two 3000P girls and both were really not interested in going. My thought is that for LT. 3000p girls are not good, because they have such a big opinion of themselves, so I've never consummated with one and I really don't seek them out. Have any of you had any good luck with these girls? I am not talking about ST. I'm more interested in LT and maybe they want to even be your GF.Here's a few pics of my 3000p gal from the Dollhouse. She was young, sassy and sexy as hell. There were great ladies there, the waitresses, and the dancers 1500p and 3000p were top notch. I got lucky or maybe a little charm. Anyway she was the best thing I ate in the whole country.

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Edward M
03-12-11, 19:48
Made my maiden voyage to AC last month and thought that I should post a quick report here to return the favor to all of the ISG members that helped me out before my first trip. I am working on a longer, more detailed report and may post that later.

This place is great. For reference my previous experience was extensively Rio de Janeiro, one recent trip to Pattaya, some trips to Tijuana but not recently, and some minor stuff in other locations. In my opinion, AC was the best of all of these places. Certainly not perfect and lacking in some respects but for my purposes as close to ideal as I have seen.

First of all the prices were good. I was worried about reading of price inflation and thinking I would have to pay for 3000 peso spotlight dancers to get quality. I went to one or two of the fancy show bars with 3000 peso dancers (Crystal Palace and maybe Babydolls) and they looked no better than their 1500 peso counterparts. It was not worth paying double for them with (my assumed) greater chance of lousy service and / or runner. I found good quality and good value from one end of Fields (1800 peso) to far down Perimeter (1050). The Fields girls on average were a little bit prettier, more experienced, and less shy and the money savings from going to Perimeter was nearly offset by trike fees and needing to go to more bars and order more beers to find a gem. That being said I am considering staying on Perimeter for my next trip but I would not recommend that to a total newbie since Fields is a lot more convenient with everything in one spot including bars, restaurants, nice hotels, etc.

I did have some issues. One runner and one girl on her mens after she assured me she wasn't. I went right back to the bar where I got the mens girl and not only did they immediately give me my money back the manager thanked me and said that this was not the first time she did this and would be fired. I felt a little bad about her losing her job but she can apply at any of the other hundred or so bars and hopefully learn to not pull this trick again. I did nothing about the runner for about 5 days as her bar was never open when I walked past it on my rounds but finally one day I spoke to the door girls. I told them I was not going back to their bar because of the runner. I did not remember her name but I had her picture and they recognized her. They told me that if I had come back right away (I assume they meant that night or before she got paid the next day) they would have given me my money back. These were door girls and not managers and I did not actually get any money so who knows but it was a good sign. The lesson here is that if you have a problem go back to the bar ASAP and you may get your money back or at least you will not be reinforcing bad behavior which cumulatively will make it better for all of us.

I have read the debates here of AC vs Pattaya and was worried that coming from Pattaya would be a let down. This was not the case for me. Sure Pattaya had some things like a beach, nude dancing, world-class cuisine, the Devil's Den, and glitzy nightlife but these things are all minor in comparison to what I was looking for which was nice, cute girls willing to have LT sex with me for a little money. If I had the means (crossing fingers for a few years hence) and the situations do not change I could see myself living in AC with occasional trips to Pattaya as a novelty.

A few quick observations:

1. Only get as much money in the airport as you need to get to AC as the rates there will be cheaper and more consistent. In the airport do not just blindly buy from the first changer you see. I saw a difference of 0. 20 pesos/$ at two different banks within 40 feet of each other.

2. The jeepney is a good way to get around and if you are big more comfortable than the trikes. Oddly they stop halfway between Fields and Perimeter so you may need to get two but it is still cheap at 8 pesos. Not as efficient or comfortable as the baht buses in Pattaya but still pretty good. Trikes are also not bad but expect to pay more to leave Fields than to go there. To go to Perimeter they would ask for 100 but to go back only 70. A girl told me she pays 50 either way. Of course carrying me around uses more gas so I do not mind paying a little more.

3. The pinays are thicker and rounder than the Thais. For some this is a negative but not for me.

4. I took the bus both ways from Manila to AC. Going there was uneventful although I did get off at the wrong bus terminal the first time before I found the Victory Pasay terminal. Coming back was a clusterfuck as first I overslept, then the Victory bus was full. One of the touts got me on another bus (I forget the company) while his partner held a seat for me on it. I thought I would never see my suitcase again but they left it in the aisle. I gave them both 10 pesos for their trouble which they were very happy with. When I got to Manila I did not recognize the bus terminal and got in a cab to go to the airport. I said meter and he said ok but once we got going I saw the meter was flipped down and he gave me a laminated card that said 660 pesos to the airport from Ermita or Makati or wherever we were. I said that I thought we were in Pasay and he said no and showed me a street sign that said the other town. Looking at my watch and quickly calculating that it was about $15 I said screw it, let's go. I got on my plane with minutes to spare so the taxi scam was a necessary evil and relatively painless. I noticed that I was the only obvious foreigner on any of the buses. Everyone else I spoke to in AC got there via Swagman's Fly the Bus. It did not seem worth it to me to sacrifice two days in AC for Manila though so I will probably bus it again.

5. The common people in the street, on the bus, etc did not seem to speak much English. They only seemed to understand half or less of what I said. Also, Dau is pronounced "daa-oo" not "Dow". Knowing this would have made finding the right bus easier.

6. A weird thing that I saw at least three times in the week was that bar girls got a wrong order in restaurants. The waitresses did not seem to care that the girls did not get what they asked for and every time the girls said it was ok and just ate what they were brought. I never saw that happen to a man's order and I saw a lot more men's orders as I did not eat every day with girls but I ate everyday and often sat with other foreigners in the restaurant.

Well, I for one do not like to read long reports and this is getting long so that is all for now.

Chocha Monger
03-12-11, 20:30
6. A weird thing that I saw at least three times in the week was that bar girls got a wrong order in restaurants. The waitresses did not seem to care that the girls did not get what they asked for and every time the girls said it was ok and just ate what they were brought. I never saw that happen to a man's order and I saw a lot more men's orders as I did not eat every day with girls but I ate everyday and often sat with other foreigners in the restaurant.What you witnessed was bar girls knowing their place when dealing with other Filipinos. If the girls caused any trouble they would have been rapidly ejected or incarcerated. There was one incident where two bar girls got into a fight and damaged a bar. The local owner had the two arrested and taken to Station 4. They did not have enough cash to cover the damages so they were given the option of turning over their jewelry and cell phones towards the debt. One of the girls decided to be a wise ass and threw her phone onto the floor where it broke apart. The bar owner just looked at the policemen with a smile. They threw the girl into a holding cell with male prisoners who promptly began to fondle her tits and pussy. In a matter of minutes she was crying and begging to be released. She was left there until her family or friends could raise the money to get her out. If the girls pressed the issue at the restaurant the waitress would be right and the girls might get more than they bargained for. Non-prostitutes go through great lengths to avoid being mistaken for a bar girl.

Sharka
03-13-11, 00:15
I did have some issues. One runner and one girl on her mens after she assured me she wasn't.

1) I went right back to the bar where I got the mens girl and not only did they immediately give me my money back the manager thanked me and said that this was not the first time she did this and would be fired. I felt a little bad about her losing her job.

2) They told me that if I had come back right away (I assume they meant that night or before she got paid the next day) they would have given me my money back.

3) The jeepney is a good way to get around and if you are big more comfortable than the trikes. Oddly they stop halfway between Fields and Perimeter so you may need to get two but it is still cheap at 8 pesos.

4) Coming back was a clusterfuck as first I overslept, then the Victory bus was full. . I said meter and he said ok but once we got going I saw the meter was flipped down and he gave me a laminated card that said 660 pesos to the airport from Ermita or Makati or wherever we were. I said that I thought we were in Pasay and he said no and showed me a street sign that said the other town.

5) Well, I for one do not like to read long reports and this is getting long so that is all for now. 1) I assume you didn't bang the lady with the period, which is why you can get the refund. Don't worry about her job lost, you will see her soon in another bar pulling the same shit.

2) For the runner, mostly true as the doorgirl said if you bring her back right away, meaning NO SEX had taken place before you bring her back. As soon as dick touches her, for the most part your refund is forfeited.

3) The jeepney does not stop halfway, it ends just before it reaches Fields. Nothing runs on Fields itself as it is a walking street only.

4) Always, always ask at the Dau bus terminal which bus goes to Pasay as these buses go everywhere, and just to be sure, before boarding look at the sign in front of the bus to make sure it said Pasay if you are heading back to airport as this is the closest terminal.

5) I always like to read long, detail and informative reports rather than the 1 liners here so don't worry about it as I'm waiting for more reports from you.

Cheers.

Shark

Edward M
03-13-11, 02:44
1) I assume you didn't bang the lady with the period, which is why you can get the refund. Don't worry about her job lost, you will see her soon in another bar pulling the same shit.

2) For the runner, mostly true as the doorgirl said if you bring her back right away, meaning NO SEX had taken place before you bring her back. As soon as dick touches her, for the most part your refund is forfeited.

3) The jeepney does not stop halfway, it ends just before it reaches Fields. Nothing runs on Fields itself as it is a walking street only.

4) Always, always ask at the Dau bus terminal which bus goes to Pasay as these buses go everywhere, and just to be sure, before boarding look at the sign in front of the bus to make sure it said Pasay if you are heading back to airport as this is the closest terminal.

5) I always like to read long, detail and informative reports rather than the 1 liners here so don't worry about it as I'm waiting for more reports from you.

Cheers.

Shark1) I did not bang the girl on her period but she did give me half a BJ and I took some pictures. It was actually she and another girl. She started pulling crap and refused to go back to the bar but the other girl went with me. I think she explained the situation to the manager. What was funny was the period girl claimed to be the other girl's best friend but other girl denied this. Then we picked up whom she said was actually her best friend. Much better.

2) As I was walking by the door girls tried to pull me in. I said something like,"I am not going to your bar because the last girl I got from there was a runner." Then our discussion ensued. I did tell them that I had sex with the runner. I just said that she left after an hour when she said she would stay LT. They asked me this,"Did she say she would stay LT?" "Yes," I said. Then they said I should have come back right away and I would have gotten my money back. Like I said I did not speak to the manager or actually get any money so take it for what it is worth.

The main reason I did not go back right away was that I read your point here many times so I figured I was SOL. My motivation when I did speak was not to try to get my money back but to let them know that as a customer it was effecting their business.

3) Really? I thought the jeepney station is where the road changes names. No matter. In order to take a jeepney past the Fields gate to Fields / Perimeter / Don Juico past Narcisco you will need two jeepneys or you can walk to the jeepney station.

4) My bus did say Pasay and when I got off I asked the driver if it was Pasay. Maybe it was right on the border. I also thought right away I was getting scammed but did not have time to argue about it. It would have cost me a lot more than $15 if I missed my plane so I just paid him.

5) Ok. Thanks.

Wadman
03-13-11, 06:28
2)I did tell them that I had sex with the runner. I just said that she left after an hour when she said she would stay LT. They asked me this,"Did she say she would stay LT?" "Yes," I said. Then they said I should have come back right away and I would have gotten my money back. Like I said I did not speak to the manager or actually get any money so take it for what it is worth.This nonsense of having to ask and confirm everything beforehand in AC is really starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. If you don't ask how long they will stay, many girls will think it's their right to leave after a quickie. And then put the blame on you: "you didn't ask how long I would stay" OR "I never said I would stay till the morning".

Maybe it's time to get them back. Have the girl stay LT, do multiple rounds, give her nothing for a tip and then say: you never asked how much I would tip!

FurryFriend
03-13-11, 09:06
Have anyone threatened a runner that you'd go back to the bar to complain? What happened and did the girl comply?

Amjeck
03-13-11, 11:05
Have anyone threatened a runner that you'd go back to the bar to complain? What happened and did the girl comply?Yes.

And.

No.

Mr Enternational
03-13-11, 13:07
Maybe I am not on this thread enough, but the times that I am I never see figures for Short Time. Well now that my boots are on the ground I have visited various bars and I have been continuously told that Short Time is 700 pesos for 3 hours.

Edward M
03-13-11, 13:44
Maybe I am not on this thread enough, but the times that I am I never see figures for Short Time. Well now that my boots are on the ground I have visited various bars and I have been continuously told that Short Time is 700 pesos for 3 hours.Were you in the "BJ bars" on A Santos? I think pretty much everyone else has the same BF when you take the girl out regardless of whether it is ST or LT. There are also some BJ bars on Perimeter with 700 in the back (just separated by a curtain, not really a separate room) but that is only for BJ and if you want to take her out even for ST it is 1200.

Mr Enternational
03-13-11, 14:47
Were you in the "BJ bars" on A Santos? I think pretty much everyone else has the same BF when you take the girl out regardless of whether it is ST or LT. There are also some BJ bars on Perimeter with 700 in the back (just separated by a curtain, not really a separate room) but that is only for BJ and if you want to take her out even for ST it is 1200.I was not in the BJ bars. But as I have walked around more it seems the smaller bars are the ones that offer ST as well, but the larger bars and agogos have one set price. A girl at the Bunny Ranch just told me that the bar fine would be from now (9:30pm) until tomorrow afternoon. But I'm catching the bus in a couple of hours so I am going to get a ST who I told I would be back at 10 for 700.

Mr Enternational
03-13-11, 16:15
Were you in the "BJ bars" on A Santos?After checking the map you are correct. I had no idea that was Blow Row until you said something then I went to pick the girl up and a chick at another bar asked if I wanted a blow job. Then I thought let me double check the map. This girl has been here for an hour and tried the "go back to the bar" trick on me. I laughed at her and told her that she knows the rules. 3 HOURS! She is sound asleep now and I'm sure I won't hit it again, but I'm a principle kind of guy. And at 700 pesos / 3 hours = 233 pesos/hour or renting pussy for US$5.35/hour that is value for your ass!

Bundanko
03-13-11, 17:31
This nonsense of having to ask and confirm everything beforehand in AC is really starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. If you don't ask how long they will stay, many girls will think it's their right to leave after a quickie. And then put the blame on you: "you didn't ask how long I would stay" OR "I never said I would stay till the morning".

Maybe it's time to get them back. Have the girl stay LT, do multiple rounds, give her nothing for a tip and then say: you never asked how much I would tip! This short time girls seem to be the norm at Fields now. I was there visiting various bars for 4 days while in AC last week. My first night was spent at Blue Nile and Club Asia. At Club Asia I invited at least 2 girls for lady drinks while trying to know them. Both were 20yo and cute. But each only wanted ST, which did not interest me as I was more on the slow type and needed time to build up the mood. In the end I just sat with the mamasan and 2 waitresses giving them drinks, which turned the table on them. They knew what I wanted and knew the girls for me, and off course they wanted the girls to be booked too. Then, I just asked mamasan to interview them on ST or LT. Then, it went from girl to girl until I got the girl I liked. That girl was 20yo and stayed with me till 9am next day. We had wonderful sex. She kept saying malibug.

The next few nights were spent at a few places including Atlantis and Crystal Palace. It was the same story where the girls either just wanted lady drinks or ST. Tired of the girls antics I just sat with the waitresses and mamasan who tried hard to choose the girls for me. Actually some of the waitresses were hot though older in age. They wanted to follow me back and promised me heaven, but most of them had baby. I found the girl that suit me and stayed LT from Crystal Palace each time for 2 nights.

Looked like we have to be merciless in the sense that we have to interview the girl for ST or LT option first before even giving them lady drinks, and even then has to clarify that LT means till say 8am next day and not 3am as some girls seem to interpret.

Edward M
03-13-11, 21:00
This short time girls seem to be the norm at Fields now. I was there visiting various bars for 4 days while in AC last week. My first night was spent at Blue Nile and Club Asia. At Club Asia I invited at least 2 girls for lady drinks while trying to know them. Both were 20yo and cute. But each only wanted ST, which did not interest me as I was more on the slow type and needed time to build up the mood. In the end I just sat with the mamasan and 2 waitresses giving them drinks, which turned the table on them. They knew what I wanted and knew the girls for me, and off course they wanted the girls to be booked too. Then, I just asked mamasan to interview them on ST or LT. Then, it went from girl to girl until I got the girl I liked. That girl was 20yo and stayed with me till 9am next day. We had wonderful sex. She kept saying malibug.

The next few nights were spent at a few places including Atlantis and Crystal Palace. It was the same story where the girls either just wanted lady drinks or ST. Tired of the girls antics I just sat with the waitresses and mamasan who tried hard to choose the girls for me. Actually some of the waitresses were hot though older in age. They wanted to follow me back and promised me heaven, but most of them had baby. I found the girl that suit me and stayed LT from Crystal Palace each time for 2 nights.

Looked like we have to be merciless in the sense that we have to interview the girl for ST or LT option first before even giving them lady drinks, and even then has to clarify that LT means till say 8am next day and not 3am as some girls seem to interpret. I did not pull any girls from Crystal Palace or Atlantis or any of the other big show-girl type places and I never got rid of a LT before 11AM. I do agree that it is important to interview them thoroughly first as I had a few that would only do ST and some that would only do ST in the bar on the couch and one or two that said they only go with Asians. Some of the LT girls were iffy in the bar indicating that they wanted to leave early and these seemed to leave the latest so go figure. When a girl would ask me in the bar when she could leave or what LT was I always said we would boom-boom, sleep, and then whenever her lazy ass woke up we would boom-boom again and then she could go, breakfast optional. Note that I often got a second round in either before sleeping or after waking up so if you are having problems with them leaving before 9AM it might either be your personality, the girls you are picking, or where you are picking them from. Also note that I never promised a tip to keep a girl longer.

On the subject of waitresses I took two of them and they were great. Just be careful to get more of a feel on them since they can hide some problems with their uniforms. Never took a door girl and some of them were very hot. Putting that on my list of things to do next trip.

X Man
03-14-11, 02:33
Someone else has already answered the first question. Northwest Airlines has been merged with Delta. Sorry to cause unnecessary confusion.

I don't think taking a late night taxi all the way to AC is particularly unsafe, and it obviously saves you the hassle of checking in / out of a hotel in Mnl. But if the regulars don't do it, there must be a reason. By the time you arrive in AC, get your hotel sorted out, the bars will be closing. I like to get a little first night nookie to take the edge off. .

Private bus transportation notes:

I got into AC yesterday via FlytheBus out of Swagman Hotel. I think it runs three times a day. Another bus, Southern Cross Htl. (mnl) /Brass Knob Htl. (AC) run a once a day bus and the bus is newer and more comfortable than the Swagman buses. 600 pesos.

I've given the URLs before and you can search on the Internet where you will find times.

Since someone on the bus yesterday was confused, let me explain. Out of Manila you have to find your own transportation to the area near Ermita church. Both buses run from there. They then slog thru the Manila traffic and should get you to AC in about two hours. They will ask you for your hotel enroute and transport you to that location. They might move you to a van for that purpose. It seems to vary. If you don't have a hotel, Kokomos iRestaurant (has some rooms) is a good place to start your search as I'm pretty sure they will hold your bags while you run around looking for a hotel.


Not sure what you mean by NWA? It is a korean airlines flight. Yes, I am a newbie.

So I take it from the responses regarding staying the night or getting a private driver that I was correct in assuming that traveling that late at night with a taxi is unsafe?

I am thinking of just taking the private hotel car to Angeles as some have suggested, but since I have never been to Manila, I am also thinking that perhaps I should stay for a night or two there too? Originally, I was planning to head straight for Angeles and stay there. So it's safe to take a taxi late at night from the airport to a hotel in Manila?

Rob Woodrow
03-15-11, 04:30
I would definitely use a hotel car for that, or use Margarita Station. I can't put a link in here but I'm sure an internet search will lead you to the right spot. I wouldn't bother to try to haggle with an airport taxi. Even if you save money-and that's a huge if-it's not worth the trouble. Not just from a risk standpoint, but Manila drivers are not going to be as efficient at getting from point A to point B quickly, whereas the hotel and Margarita drivers will be guys that know the route (and know how to get to your hotel once there). Margarita Station drivers will even have beers in a cooler for you (or sodas, if you don't drink beer) for a whopping 20 pesos or so.

And I wouldn't worry about getting to AC at that time. You can be in a bar by 2am. Depends on the bottleneck at immigration more than anything. Even so, many Fields bars are open until 4, and a couple are open 24 hours. You're really only looking at an extra 60 or 90 minutes to get to a bar in AC as compared to navigating to your Manila hotel and getting checked in and finding some action there. I would only stay in Manila if you're interested in checking out the scene in Manila-nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want. But I wouldn't let the clock make the decision.


For my first trip to the PI, I realized that my plane is landing in MNL at 11pm, with my final destination being Angeles City (I believe I take a taxi?). One question I had was that since I will need to be taking a taxi so late at night, whether it is safe? I have heard of taxis sometimes taking passengers on random detours, and I am pretty wary of taxi drivers in foreign countries just based on past experience. Just want to be safe.

Rob Woodrow
03-15-11, 04:35
1) Agreed, I just don't pull or even try to pull from the Big Bars. To each his own, though.

2) Door girls can be great, but then you have to be careful walking past the bar. I remember being able to stand in front of Kokomo's and see 7 former barfines working doors. I have a problem.


I did not pull any girls from Crystal Palace or Atlantis or any of the other big show-girl type places and I never got rid of a LT before 11AM. I do agree that it is important to interview them thoroughly first as I had a few that would only do ST and some that would only do ST in the bar on the couch and one or two that said they only go with Asians. Some of the LT girls were iffy in the bar indicating that they wanted to leave early and these seemed to leave the latest so go figure. When a girl would ask me in the bar when she could leave or what LT was I always said we would boom-boom, sleep, and then whenever her lazy ass woke up we would boom-boom again and then she could go, breakfast optional. Note that I often got a second round in either before sleeping or after waking up so if you are having problems with them leaving before 9AM it might either be your personality, the girls you are picking, or where you are picking them from. Also note that I never promised a tip to keep a girl longer.

On the subject of waitresses I took two of them and they were great. Just be careful to get more of a feel on them since they can hide some problems with their uniforms. Never took a door girl and some of them were very hot. Putting that on my list of things to do next trip.

Undercoverh
03-15-11, 07:16
Well, it has been 14 years since the last time I was in AC. Most of my time has been spent in China (where I got married, what the hell was I thinking!). Next month, I have a business trip to Manila and I will take a side trip to AC.

I have one question, from the post here, the guys talk about p1, 500 to p3, 000. This is of course the bar fine. My question is do you need to pay the girl additional money? For example, do I need to pay the bar fine, plus pay the girl based on what she and I agree to? If I need to pay the girl additional money, what is the going rate most guys pay to the girl.

Thanks for any helpful info, it would be greatly appreciated.

Wadman
03-15-11, 07:46
I have one question, from the post here, the guys talk about p1, 500 to p3, 000. This is of course the bar fine. My question is do you need to pay the girl additional money? For example, do I need to pay the bar fine, plus pay the girl based on what she and I agree to? If I need to pay the girl additional money, what is the going rate most guys pay to the girl.Officially, the barfine is all-inclusive. However, it is customary to give a tip. If the girl did a good job, she pretty much expects one. How much of a tip depends on whom you ask, and varies greatly. It also depends on whether the girl stayed ST or LT. Note that ST in AC SHOULD mean 3 hours and 2 rounds (sometimes 3, if you can manage).

For me:

LT tip 0-500-1000:

Early leaver / assorted bullshit / didn't do what she said she would during the interview 0 p.

Average, run-of-the-mill performance (but still multiple rounds) 500 p.

Good-great performance 1000 p.

ST tip 0-200-500.

Although lately I am turning into a bit of a mean bastard: either the girl gets the whole enchilada (1000 P) if she was good, or 0 p otherwise.

The girls talk of course. So if a girl did good, and you gave her a lousy tip or no tip, the girls from that bar may not be so keen to go with you in the future.

John Traveller
03-15-11, 08:10
Well, it has been 14 years since the last time I was in AC. Most of my time has been spent in China (where I got married, what the hell was I thinking!). Next month, I have a business trip to Manila and I will take a side trip to AC.

I have one question, from the post here, the guys talk about p1, 500 to p3, 000. This is of course the bar fine. My question is do you need to pay the girl additional money? For example, do I need to pay the bar fine, plus pay the girl based on what she and I agree to? If I need to pay the girl additional money, what is the going rate most guys pay to the girl.

Thanks for any helpful info, it would be greatly appreciated. Welcome back to AC, U! Barfine ranges from 1200 to 3000 in AC. (Exception is some BJ-bars with 700 for ST.) With the majority from 1500-1800. A very few bars have multiple fares, most have one standard. Now, the thing with AC is that it is not specified whether this is ST or LT. You may agree on this with the girl while in the bar, but nothing is guaranteed. Remember that the BF is a EWR, legally the girl only agrees to go with you outside the bar, nothing more. But: sex is expected, if she don't deliver, go back to the bar and complain at once! (Talk to the manager without other people listening.)

Then there is the cost of the drinks: customer / local drinks vary 60-105. LD 120-170 (or more). You only need to buy one of each. NOTHING MORE IS NECESSARRY TO PAY! You may tip if you want to (max 500!) or pay breakfast. If you are satiesfied, she did what was promised, stayed LT, etc, but that's up to you. Generally I recommend: don't tip!

For more info, opinions and discussions about these things and more: read the reports here (go 2-3 months back at least). Also get info about local transport, hotel options, etc.

Watch out for these betes noir: Pushy street vedors. Bad attitude at bigger show bars, included waitresses expecting tips for being rude. Girls claiming to get pregnant after you have been with them. Meeting the same girl several times and getting emotional: From your experiences in China you probably know all about this; if you come as a sex-tourist, then stay sex-tourist!

It's a fact that AC is not as good as before (2 years+) but it is still a great place to come and have fun, and way cheaper than Thailand. BTW: it would be interesting to hear about how it was in AC in the good old days, tell some stories!

Undercoverh
03-15-11, 13:49
Officially, the barfine is all-inclusive. However, it is customary to give a tip. If the girl did a good job, she pretty much expects one. How much of a tip depends on whom you ask, and varies greatly. It also depends on whether the girl stayed ST or LT. Note that ST in AC SHOULD mean 3 hours and 2 rounds (sometimes 3, if you can manage).

For me:

LT tip 0-500-1000:

Early leaver / assorted bullshit / didn't do what she said she would during the interview 0 p.

Average, run-of-the-mill performance (but still multiple rounds) 500 p.

Good-great performance 1000 p.

ST tip 0-200-500.

Although lately I am turning into a bit of a mean bastard: either the girl gets the whole enchilada (1000 P) if she was good, or 0 p otherwise.

The girls talk of course. So if a girl did good, and you gave her a lousy tip or no tip, the girls from that bar may not be so keen to go with you in the future. Thank you for the info. Wow, AC is way cheap compared to the places I have been to in China, Hong Kong, and Macau. AC, here I come!

Undercoverh
03-15-11, 14:02
Welcome back to AC, U! Barfine ranges from 1200 to 3000 in AC. (Exception is some BJ-bars with 700 for ST.) With the majority from 1500-1800. A very few bars have multiple fares, most have one standard. Now, the thing with AC is that it is not specified whether this is ST or LT. You may agree on this with the girl while in the bar, but nothing is guaranteed. Remember that the BF is a EWR, legally the girl only agrees to go with you outside the bar, nothing more. But: sex is expected, if she don't deliver, go back to the bar and complain at once! (Talk to the manager without other people listening.)

Then there is the cost of the drinks: customer / local drinks vary 60-105. LD 120-170 (or more). You only need to buy one of each. NOTHING MORE IS NECESSARRY TO PAY! You may tip if you want to (max 500!) or pay breakfast. If you are satiesfied, she did what was promised, stayed LT, etc, but that's up to you. Generally I recommend: don't tip!

For more info, opinions and discussions about these things and more: read the reports here (go 2-3 months back at least). Also get info about local transport, hotel options, etc.

Watch out for these betes noir: Pushy street vedors. Bad attitude at bigger show bars, included waitresses expecting tips for being rude. Girls claiming to get pregnant after you have been with them. Meeting the same girl several times and getting emotional: From your experiences in China you probably know all about this; if you come as a sex-tourist, then stay sex-tourist!

It's a fact that AC is not as good as before (2 years+) but it is still a great place to come and have fun, and way cheaper than Thailand. BTW: it would be interesting to hear about how it was in AC in the good old days, tell some stories!

Thanks for the great info! After being in Asia for 16 years and going to all the spots (e.g, Thailand, Japan, etc) , as I get older, I miss talking to young girls (over 18) in English. And most of the PI girls are sweet, more so than the China girls. AC is really cheap compared to the money I have paid in Macau or Japan. I will plan to go to PI on a regular basis, it is truly "the land of ladies."

As for my story, when I was a newbie 16 years ago, my first stop was Cebu. After living in the U.S. and Canada up till that point, I was like a kid in a canday store with all the young hot girls and the cheap good sex. And, of course, I feel in love with a young sweet PI girl. A regular girl who never seen a bar. As love would have it, I was a fool and paid for this girls college, yap, I was that young and dump back then.

Well, you can most likely guess the ending to this story.....she did not end up with me. Yap, she found another guy after I paid for 4 years of college. An old friend of my mine that lives in Cebu told me a few years back that same guy gave her a baby and left her. Wow, I was wanted to marry this chick. Well, I guess there is justice. Needless to say, I do not do crap like that now. We all live and learn.......but I still love those PI girls!

Sky Ryder
03-15-11, 14:35
Got into town on Sunday and checked into "the Breeze", they still have some hotties working the desk. One hour massage (never even had one of the massage girls "hint " at anything more) and off to meet Transporter, and a buddy of his that was on his "cherry" visit to AC. Made the rounds at a few Fields bars, a hot waitress at Champagne that continues to deflect my attempts to barfine her for some carnal fun, nothing in Atlantis or Babydolls that interest me. At those prices. I really enjoy the show at Blue Nile Exec, and had wanted to bar fine a girl from there earlier, but she was on the "mens"! The leader of the dance troupe is a 10+, but is married and no way is on the menu. Got to have a dream! I had settled on a door girl from Pasha, her name is Haidi, and if you meet her don't bother. She got drunk, passed out, then woke up late with a hang over. I left the room at 11am, her still there and when I returned at 2pm she was gone. Yes she could have ripped me off, but everything of value was locked up and I would have certainly pressed charges or talked to her mommie at the least. I had even bought a new outfit for the pictures she promised, I can be a real chump sometimes.

Next day went to a few of the Perimeter bars, and saw a few keepers. All the ones I was interested in were "cherry girls" which instantly made me NOT interested! Finally settled on a slender little thing from Ponytails and had a good night. If I would have waited, I would have for sure made a run at the Tequila gal from Ponytails, she was HOT!

Sent the girl home early due to a early flight out. This was a quick trip but I did notice that the trends reported here are TRUE, BF's going up, Girls with attitudes. At least on the higher end Fields' bars, and all kind of excuses not to barfine. I think many are making enough with the more expensive LD's they don't need to barfine.

AC is still fun, but more work than even a few months ago. I did see more than a few BSD's on a once in a lifetime venture. I am not sure they have enough numbers to affect the market, but they do change the dynamic in any given bar on any given night. They come in and I leave for another bar, because I won't compete with that.

Sammon
03-15-11, 18:12
Well, it has been 14 years since the last time I was in AC. Most of my time has been spent in China (where I got married, what the hell was I thinking!). Next month, I have a business trip to Manila and I will take a side trip to AC.

I have one question, from the post here, the guys talk about p1, 500 to p3, 000. This is of course the bar fine. My question is do you need to pay the girl additional money? For example, do I need to pay the bar fine, plus pay the girl based on what she and I agree to? If I need to pay the girl additional money, what is the going rate most guys pay to the girl.

Thanks for any helpful info, it would be greatly appreciated. You may calculate all you want but you spend more in a day in AC than getting a ST in Pattaya.

There are many bars in a short proximity and if you go to 10 bars looking for the girl it will be min 1000 pesos for one drink each plus tip. Ofcourse you will be tempted to order atleast 3-4 ladydrinks which will add up to 1000 pesos.

It will be hardly to stay within your budget. The more you drink it will be harder to control.

Ok. So you found the girl early at the first bar you went to and barfined her. So what do you do next?

All these girls are not content to stay with you and screw your brains out. If you barfine early they will be runners after one shot. Most of the men take them barhopping or disco to while away the time. This costs more money.

Remember these girls are not in the habit of sleeping early.

So all in all planned or not you will be spending more money per day than you imagined you will do.

Ofcourse if you stay in the room and sleep you will be well within budget.

Fast Eddie 48
03-15-11, 22:52
Thank you for the info. Wow, AC is way cheap compared to the places I have been to in China, Hong Kong, and Macau. AC, here I come!To Undercoverh.

I don't you cannot compare AC to Hong kong or Macau, this is a little shit hole town with many bar with not much else to offer yes price has gone up alot the last few yr but still cheaper than most place in asia, I think you can compare AC to other Monger city like Pattaya, Phnom Penh and CP in China.

Fast Eddie 48

Rick Hunter
03-16-11, 04:25
[QUOTE=Undercoverh; 1133995]Thanks for the great info! After being in Asia for 16 years and going to all the spots (e. G, Thailand, Japan, etc) , as I get older, I miss talking to young girls (over 18) in English. And most of the PI girls are sweet, more so than the China girls.

[QUOTE]Funny I was just talking about this over lunch in Hong Kong this week with a buddy and we were complaining that is getting to be that the Phil is about the only consistant place where you can have a conversation with a young lady in English now and then have some fun with her. 10 years of mother tounge teaching has not been good for Hong Kong and China can be difficult, Tongren-lu excepted, although if it has not been demolished yet it is scheduled to be. Most other countries, even if they have stunners, it is hard to have a decent conversation and joke around in English, unless they are over from the Philippines working.

Levitraboner
03-16-11, 05:59
Can anyone recommend a hotel with adjoining bedroom or at least two queen beds for a wingman? It makes it alot easier to stay organized plus we may be able to switch.

Cherry2000
03-16-11, 08:29
Can anyone recommend a hotel with adjoining bedroom or at least two queen beds for a wingman? It makes it alot easier to stay organized plus we may be able to switch.Affinity condo resort has beautiful two bedroom apartments,

www Affinitycondoresort dot com.

Its a great hotel, quiet and only 1mnute from the jeepney terminal.

Very safe and very clean including very friendly staff

Patty Boy
03-16-11, 12:06
I am curious whether there are any good discos in town where a guy can go and potentially pull some freebies (much like Lucifer in Pattaya, if you are familiar with that)?

As some of you are discussing, I thought that AC would be a cheap destination but I am more and more starting to think that this will not really be the case due to the cost of the hotel room alone. I am going to be staying at Pacific Breeze, which was recommended by some people on this site as a budget place to stay, but that is $50-60 a night (I was unable to book the cheapest room for 2 weeks straight). In Thailand you can probably get a similar room for $25 or even cheaper if you really wanted.

However, since I have never been to AC, I thought that it was definitely a place I had to visit at least once, so that's why I'm going in 2 weeks. Since the cost of the room is more expensive, I am trying to find ways to mix up my activities from meeting girls in bars to also meeting them on dateinasia. Com and potentially discos. Also, is it common for someone to get scammed by picking up women either through disco or dateinasia. Com (e. G. Police setup or things like that)?

Patty Boy
03-16-11, 12:11
also, i was wondering if there are any experienced mongers here that are kind enough to to take me under their wing maybe for a night to get me up to speed with a few things here? i am planning to be here april 2 to april 22, and potentially extend my stay if i really enjoy it (otherwise it's off to pattaya). i am an asian american in my late 20s, if that matters.

Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 12:33
2) Door girls can be great, but then you have to be careful walking past the bar. I remember being able to stand in front of Kokomo's and see 7 former barfines working doors. I have a problem.Why the need to be careful walking past the bar? Once services are performed and the worker is paid the business is complete and each party is free to move on as they wish.

Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 12:47
I am curious whether there are any good discos in town where a guy can go and potentially pull some freebies (much like Lucifer in Pattaya, if you are familiar with that)?

As some of you are discussing, I thought that AC would be a cheap destination but I am more and more starting to think that this will not really be the case due to the cost of the hotel room alone. I am going to be staying at Pacific Breeze, which was recommended by some people on this site as a budget place to stay, but that is $50-60 a night (I was unable to book the cheapest room for 2 weeks straight). In Thailand you can probably get a similar room for $25 or even cheaper if you really wanted.

However, since I have never been to AC, I thought that it was definitely a place I had to visit at least once, so that's why I'm going in 2 weeks. Since the cost of the room is more expensive, I am trying to find ways to mix up my activities from meeting girls in bars to also meeting them on dateinasia. Com and potentially discos. Also, is it common for someone to get scammed by picking up women either through disco or dateinasia. Com (e. G. Police setup or things like that)? Sky Trax is the disco. I met a Pinay chick in there the other night, believe it or not, who is from and lives in South Carolina. As to freebie or not that all depends on you and your game. The next night I met one who will be a freebie that actually lives in Austria (even wrote her info on her boarding pass) but was home visiting family. She was there with two sisters, a cousin, and an aunt and uncle. They invited me upstairs to their table and fed me and gave me drink. We made plans to meet in Paris soon. I always thought it was only a pick-up disco but now I realize non-working women go there as well. (Speaking of Lucifer: last month there I met a Black chick who went to high school with my brother in the states. Is anywhere safe anymore?)

If you plan on staying 2 weeks (which I think is a long time for AC) then you might want to look into an apartment instead of a hotel. Some of the guys who live there should be able to point you in the right direction.

I don't want to be a killjoy, but most of the girls you meet on DIA in AC will be the same girls in the bars. Before I went this time I met a chick on there who said she lived in AC. I asked where she worked and she told me XYZ Bar. I told her okay I will visit her there when I arrive. I actually called her and she came to the hotel. The next day when I did visit the bar I saw they had 3 computers set up where the girls do their online hooking up. I have not had any problems with any police setups.

Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 13:01
I had a 7:40am flight out of MNL Monday.

I took a trike at 2:00am from Central Park Hotel for 100 pesos.

I arrived at Dau bus station at 2:10am. The Five Star bus departed for Pasay at 2:15am. 132 pesos.

I arrived in Pasay at 3:33am. (I actually got off at the stop before the one I was supposed to. I remembered the Five Star garage from the time before and got off there. Just so happened there is actually 2 of them. The one I was supposed to get off at was actually another 10 minutes down the road.

I entered a taxi at 3:34am and arrived at the airport at 3:55am. 165 pesos.

Summary: Departed hotel in AC 2:00am arrived MNL 3:55am. 397 pesos. It would have been under 300 pesos if I would have gotten off at the correct stop.

X Man
03-16-11, 13:05
I finally made the Pinatubo tour. The views at the caldera are stunning. The last time I inquired about a tour, the agent discouraged me because of rain. The next day a group, including French tourist, were washed away by lahar (mudflow of volcanic ash). Seven were killed. You don't want to do this during rainy season.

I didn't keep good track of time, so please correct me if anyone sees obvious discrepencies. A 6am start, nearly three hours in a jeep. The last hour is off road over lahar and part way up the slopes. Another group went by van and was transferred to jeep later, which is probably a better way to go. The jeep is open air and it can get chilly. The hike is what I would call easy, about an hour each way and nothing extremely steep. Nevertheless, the trails have a lot of rock and lahar sand. It's easy to stumble. The locals did this in sandals, and I did it in regular athletic shoes. It was a weekday and I understand the weekends will have many more visitors. I also heard, but have not confirmed, that the trip is shorter if done from Subic.

The paying hikers consisted of five . Two mid-aged Americans, two 30ish Koreans, a Fil-American. The only woman. The Filipina was very helpful because the guide apparently couldn't speak English. The Koreans were friendly and courteous. Which of course contradicts what some others have said on this message board.

Just before we went off road we stopped to register and I paid 2, 500. Other members had paid the travel agent in advance. Around this time we picked up a guide and a boat man. The jeep was rather crowded.

There was an additional 350 fee if you wanted to rent a boat, incl. Boatman. This had to be paid at the registration center. That being said we talked to someone who had negotiated 250. I also think that if you opted out of the boat, once you get at the caldera lake you could probably arrange something with the guides. Despite the "no swimming" sign, I swam in the caldera lake. Water wasn't as cold as I expected.

The history of the Pinatubo eruption and the Aeta people who lived on the slopes is very interesting. You can find plenty of information on the web. The guide and the boat man were Aeta people. Our guide says he gets paid less than 250 pesos, but they take turns being guides and he gets onlytwo chances a month. And probably no chances in the rainy season. He was tipped well by our group, despite his lack of English.

At the end of the hike we were were fed at the same place as the registration center. It was Filipino food, and it was better than I expected. I think were back on the AC strip sometime before 5, although most tours are probably shorter. We had a few things that slowed us down. Hope that helps if anyone is interested in a Pinatubo hike.

Patty Boy
03-16-11, 13:12
Sky Trax is the disco. I met a Pinay chick in there the other night, believe it or not, who is from and lives in South Carolina. As to freebie or not that all depends on you and your game. The next night I met one who will be a freebie that actually lives in Austria (even wrote her info on her boarding pass) but was home visiting family. She was there with two sisters, a cousin, and an aunt and uncle. They invited me upstairs to their table and fed me and gave me drink. We made plans to meet in Paris soon. I always thought it was only a pick-up disco but now I realize non-working women go there as well. (Speaking of Lucifer: last month there I met a Black chick who went to high school with my brother in the states. Is anywhere safe anymore?)Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.


If you plan on staying 2 weeks (which I think is a long time for AC) then you might want to look into an apartment instead of a hotel. Some of the guys who live there should be able to point you in the right direction.How much do the apartments normally go for and are they located close to the action? I might even stay longer than 2 weeks if I can find an affordable place and enjoy my time in AC. Or perhaps go to Manila. Is Manila more dangerous than Angeles City, or vice versa, or are they about the same in terms of safety?


I don't want to be a killjoy, but most of the girls you meet on DIA in AC will be the same girls in the bars. Before I went this time I met a chick on there who said she lived in AC. I asked where she worked and she told me XYZ Bar. I told her okay I will visit her there when I arrive. I actually called her and she came to the hotel. The next day when I did visit the bar I saw they had 3 computers set up where the girls do their online hooking up. I have not had any problems with any police setups.So does this mean they are basically trying to find customers? Or do you mean that they are just the same girls from the bar. I don't really care if they work at the bars or not if I can avoid paying big fees.

X Man
03-16-11, 13:18
That doesn't stop them from shouting out something, possibly in Tagalog, to your date. Annoying at the least, but could cause complications. And if you've demanded a bar fine back, as I had to do the other day, what your ex (I sue the term loosely) says might be less than flattering. X.


Why the need to be careful walking past the bar? Once services are performed and the worker is paid the business is complete and each party is free to move on as they wish.

Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 13:30
Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.

How much do the apartments normally go for and are they located close to the action? I might even stay longer than 2 weeks if I can find an affordable place and enjoy my time in AC. Or perhaps go to Manila. Is Manila more dangerous than Angeles City, or vice versa, or are they about the same in terms of safety?

So does this mean they are basically trying to find customers? Or do you mean that they are just the same girls from the bar. I don't really care if they work at the bars or not if I can avoid paying big fees. Sky Trax is hella crowded but the thing is that it is about 1/10 the size of Lucifer. The drinks are much cheaper in Sky Trax though. I don't think they have anything over 100 pesos. Exotic mixed drinks included.

I'm not sure how much the apartments go for, but I'm pretty sure that having been to Pattaya you would not want to stay in AC or Manila for 2 weeks. Safety is not big on my list. If I ever listened to people or TV about how dangerous places are then I never would have came out of my mother 39 years ago. People are people where ever you go. I hang in some pretty shady places all around the world and have never had one problem. So you might want to get someone else's take on that.

I think the bar girls on DIA are looking for love. Right before I left at 2am I took another girl from the bar that the girl I met works at from 10pm to 1am. She still hounded me about coming to see me while the other one was with me and after she left. As soon as the girl got back to the bar she sent me a message saying "The girl is here n0w can I g0 there n0w pls i want see u pls b4 you live." I let her come after I got my things together; 10 minutes before my trike. She sent me texts up until my plane left.

Patty Boy
03-16-11, 13:33
Sky Trax is hella crowded but the thing is that it is about 1/10 the size of Lucifer.

I'm not sure how much the apartments go for, but I'm pretty sure that having been to Pattaya you would not want to stay in AC or Manila for 2 weeks. By that, do you mean that Pattaya is a more happening place overall or what?

Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 14:02
By that, do you mean that Pattaya is a more happening place overall or what?Yes. There is nothing to do in AC and Manila except fuck, sleep, eat, and go to the mall. But different strokes for different folks. Some like Pepsi and some like Coke.

Sammon
03-16-11, 16:58
Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.Skytrax gets very crowded on weekends. Many a time there are no places to sit. They charge entry fee with one drink included. There are many unescorted girls. I believe most of them are bargirls who did a runner thing with one of you. One time I caught a girl who did the same thing. I had barfined another girl anyway. There are some local girls trying to hook up. Security with those girls maybe a question mark considering lots of scams and shakedowns.

Always better to barfine a girl and be safe.

Irony Monger
03-16-11, 17:57
I finally made the Pinatubo tour.Thanks X, very good review. I've been thinking about doing this hike for some time. I'll look into it next time I am there in the non-rainy season.

Freezone
03-17-11, 00:20
Have anyone threatened a runner that you'd go back to the bar to complain? What happened and did the girl comply?All the time and runners almost never comply willingly.

Edward M
03-17-11, 00:26
I finally made the Pinatubo tour.

Just before we went off road we stopped to register and I paid 2, 500. Where did you arrange the tour. The quote I got was much higher than that.

Snizzz11
03-17-11, 00:51
also, i was wondering if there are any experienced mongers here that are kind enough to to take me under their wing maybe for a night to get me up to speed with a few things here? i am planning to be here april 2 to april 22, and potentially extend my stay if i really enjoy it (otherwise it's off to pattaya). i am an asian american in my late 20s, if that matters.paty boy,

i'm in ac 4/8 thru 4/18. happy to buy you a beer and compare notes with you on my thai trips, too.

the snizzz

X Man
03-17-11, 02:27
My friend made the arrangement at Kokomos. I think you'll need at least three people to get this price. There seem to be different companies doing this, so you might leave your name with a couple travel service providers to up the chances of finding a group tour.

Josie at Kokomos hotel / travel office would be the best person to talk to. X.


Where did you arrange the tour. The quote I got was much higher than that.

Bundanko
03-17-11, 05:28
I was at Atlantis last week with a friend, gave a few lady drinks to 2 girls when my friend decided to BF one of them. She was a promise of fun. However upon paying our bill she changed colour and kept telling me to give tips to her and her friends, and demanded this and that which pissed me off. However, we went bar hopping and I BF my previous BF from Crystal Palace. My friend BF continued to demand, and while at Crystal Palace she asked the waitresses to order 2 bowls of prawn soup, various other food and treat the several bar girls there. It really made me wonder where we went wrong. I realized she took us for granted and took advantage of us because we were trying to be nice and friendly, and hoping they reciprocate. Then, we went back to the hotel and in the cab she was talking in tagalog to my girl. She seem to give pointers to my BF as that girl was new.

She was also hinting for gifts. Then, I had enough and told her off. I just told her we just wanted good time in AC that was why we behave stupid and we were not stupid people, and from then on I would treat her like my worker and she can get scolded if she was not careful. I told her I had hundred of people working for me from young to old and I had no problem handling difficult worker, and she would be no exception. Surprisingly she became better and was respectful until she left. She was even very polite and thank me before she went home. All along my own BF was ok and never a problem until she went home the next day. Thus, some girls need to shaken up while others are naturally nice in Philippines.

Rob Woodrow
03-17-11, 06:15
Why the need to be careful walking past the bar? Once services are performed and the worker is paid the business is complete and each party is free to move on as they wish.As you said. As they wish. If she doesn't wish, then she can make things uncomfortable for you (or you and your date) as you walk by. Not really an issue for me anymore, but something to to consider for those whom this kind of thing will bother.

Fredje1961
03-17-11, 07:54
If you have a lot of time, I can strongly recommend to go visit the rice paddies in Banaue.


I finally made the Pinatubo tour.

Amjeck
03-17-11, 13:41
I was at Atlantis last week with a friend, gave a few lady drinks to 2 girls when my friend decided to BF one of them. She was a promise of fun. However upon paying our bill she changed colour and kept telling me to give tips to her and her friends, and demanded this and that which pissed me off. However, we went bar hopping and I.

I realized she took us for granted and took advantage of us because we were trying to be nice and friendly, and hoping they reciprocate. T.

I think they were taking advantage of you because they saw you as "weak". Taking a pro barhopping and buying shit for her is a display of "weakness". They'll walk all over you!

For best results, pay barfine and go straight to room and fuck. Only after (if you really feel the need) , should you ever bar hop or decide to buy anything for the pro. Always get your pussy first!

Mr Enternational
03-17-11, 13:43
I was at Atlantis last week with a friend, gave a few lady drinks to 2 girls when my friend decided to BF one of them. She was a promise of fun. However upon paying our bill she changed colour and kept telling me to give tips to her and her friends, and demanded this and that which pissed me off. However, we went bar hopping and I BF my previous BF from Crystal Palace. My friend BF continued to demand, and while at Crystal Palace she asked the waitresses to order 2 bowls of prawn soup, various other food and treat the several bar girls there. It really made me wonder where we went wrong.IMHO you went wrong in 2 places. 1) You sat there and bought all of those lady drinks. 2) You did not nip that shit in the bud in the beginning.

Since I am not much of a drinker, when I go into a bar I am only looking for women. I make that clear when they start asking me if I want a drink. I am not trying to line the pockets of the bar owner or the girls who work there. After you bought all of those drinks for them you in essence had spoiled them. It really only takes 2 minutes to decide if you want to take a particular girl with you. After that you should go to your hotel, not bar hopping. When you go to other places you are saying,"We are on a date and everything is on me." Did you expect the girls would just want to sit and watch you guys? No, they are going to want shit. It is no telling how long they had been in that bar and they probably had not eaten anything. A better plan would have been to go to 7/11 and buy some drinks and snacks and go to 1 person's room, put on some music and relax there until you were ready to go to your own room. There is no reason to buy lady drinks. The higher chance of her getting barfined should be reason enough for her to sit her ass down and shut up while you are enjoying your delicious beverage. You should not have to bribe her to stay next to you by buying drinks.

Also you have to let the girls know you mean business from the beginning. If I barfined a girl and she started talking about me giving tips to her friends I would have told her that I was with her, not them and if she think they needed tips then she should give it to them herself. If she wanted to have a bad attitude after that then I would have gotten my money back. I was in a bar in Pattaya last month and the girl sitting with me started asking about me buying her a drink. I asked her what she liked to drink (not that I was buying anything for her) and she immediately shouted to the bartender. I said you probably like Singha beer huh? She said, "Oh. I already ordered." Soon there was a fresh Jack & Coke (probably the most expensive thing on the menu) on the table that she was sipping from. When they put the ticket in my cup I said wait a minute. I did not ask for this. They had no choice but to take it out of my cup. (I control my own tab and only pay for what I have personally ordered, not everything that some chick tells the waitress to bring to the table.) The girl then said that she would pay for it. I don't play those games.

You guys are going over to monger. You are supposed to be the king. Stop being wimps in the eyes of two-bit hookers. You can play that role when you are back home with the local women. You are supposed to be the producer and director of your own program.

Mackin
03-17-11, 18:08
Just retured from AC and had a great time with group of guys and the girls. Some randon thoughts from my experiences over the last 2 years.

If you think the girl is what you are looking for get her out of the bar if drinking is part of your plan. The drinks are cheaper out of her bar.

If she gives you attitude take her back. One of our guys took a green tag from Atlantis. Fun in the bar. At the hotel it was I don't do this and that. Took her back and got his money back. If no sex of anykind should get the money back.

Stay away from green tags. To many white tags that are cute to mess with prima donnas. Even the ones I know personaly I don't see as much fun outside their place of employment.

Treat them right but you be the one in charge. If they don't like it return them.

Remember sometimes it won't work for you. Chalk it up to experience and move forward. Just as all the girls don't appeal to you, some of us don't appeal to them. Even if they accept the BF make sure you have senced they like you.

My group has had no runners in 2 years although things havn't always been working correctly. Ask questions first before pulling the trigger. This is your rresponsibility.

Freezone
03-18-11, 00:35
I arrived in Pasay at 3:33am. (I actually got off at the stop before the one I was supposed to. I remembered the Five Star garage from the time before and got off there. Just so happened there is actually 2 of them. The one I was supposed to get off at was actually another 10 minutes down the road.

That would be confusing as I Didn't know 5 Star had 2 stops in Pasay, always thought all bus companies had only 1 terminal in Pasay?

FZ

Freezone
03-18-11, 00:58
1) Good-great performance 1000 p.

2) ST tip 0-200-500.

3) The girls talk of course. So if a girl did good, and you gave her a lousy tip or no tip, the girls from that bar may not be so keen to go with you in the future. Your tip scales are on the high side. Please guys, remember this is AC where we come here for ladies but most importantly, the low cost. If we needed to pay higher tips and cost, I'll stay in Manila where the ladies on average are higher quality but cums at a higher cost (like tips).

1) 1000p?-that's equal to some BF at a Perimeter bar. LT even for a very good provider, I top out at no more than 300-400 max. (400p if I feel in love with her overnite)

2) ST= only need to give trike money (100p max) , if ST was done at the bar itself (say Santos) then no tips needed. Maybe a LD at the bar at most.

3) Not really true, never had a problem taking out another lady from same bar and having a good time despite only giving trike money (100p) to last nites performer from same bar. Remember, most don't expect a tip for their nite with you, only the spoiled ones expect or demand a tip. Most are happy to get only trike money from you. So bottom line: they are more than happy if you only treat them with some respect and trike money home.

Note: I'm not an expat here but this is what some EXPATS living in AC for several year had told me recently and they will be the 1st ones to correct you if they feel you overtip the ladies as some feel this will inflate prices for them and they live here so have to feel the rising cost everyday unlike us who f*cks them and leave for home-IMHO.

Also, many experience mongers and expats have put in their 2 cents on tipping so just need to read some post from maybe several months ago.

FZ

X Man
03-18-11, 02:46
I agree with Freezone. One thousand peso tip should only be for those once in a lifetime shags.

Recently, I tipped 600 for an excellent time including GFE. Since then she's eagerly and passionately visited my room twice before her work started. Money well spent!


Your tip scales are on the high side. Please guys, remember this is AC where we come here for ladies but most importantly, the low cost. If we needed to pay higher tips and cost, I'll stay in Manila where the ladies on average are higher quality but cums at a higher cost (like tips).

1) 1000p-that's equal to some BF at a Perimeter bar. LT even for a very good provider, I top out at no more than 300-400 max. (400p if I feel in love with her overnite)

2) ST= only need to give trike money (100p max) , if ST was done at the bar itself (say Santos) then no tips needed. Maybe a LD at the bar at most.

3) Not really true, never had a problem taking out another lady from same bar and having a good time despite only giving trike money (100p) to last nites performer from same bar. Remember, most don't expect a tip for their nite with you, only the spoiled ones expect or demand a tip. Most are happy to get only trike money from you. So bottom line: they are more than happy if you only treat them with some respect and trike money home.

Note: I'm not an expat here but this is what some EXPATS living in AC for several year had told me recently and they will be the 1st ones to correct you if they feel you overtip the ladies as some feel this will inflate prices for them and they live here so have to feel the rising cost everyday unlike us who f*cks them and leave for home-IMHO.

Also, many experience mongers and expats have put in their 2 cents on tipping so just need to read some post from maybe several months ago.

FZ

Bamboo Pete
03-18-11, 07:04
I recently stayed one night at Edelweiss Hotel. The hotel is low standard, without pool, but quiet in a side street (standard room 900 P). The next day I went into the province (La Union) and returned one week later.

When I left I forgot my pullover and jacket in the hotel. I'm 100% sure that I put them on the hanger in the room and forgot them when I packed, and it was the only hotel I stayed.

When I asked if they had found my clothes, the receptionist on the first day said they put every lost and found to a certain room, but when she showed me the room, it was totally empty. Very suspicious. But I should come back the next day. The receptionist on the second day said straight away, that nothing was found, but she felt quite inconvenient. On both days, no manager was there.

I left the next day again, so I did not go to the police. I think it would be useless anyway, the the clothes were quite old, Not really a big loss (the problem is that I need to buy new warm clothes, as it will be cold in my country when I get back).

When I left I could swear that I saw a tricycle driver with my pullover. Looks like the hotel sells forgotten items!

Transporter
03-18-11, 07:24
Can anyone recommend a hotel with adjoining bedroom or at least two queen beds for a wingman? It makes it alot easier to stay organized plus we may be able to switch.Fields Plaza Suites.

Just stayed there last week, and it worked out great for me and my buddy.

Sang Kancil
03-18-11, 09:49
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1134782]IMHO you went wrong in 2 places. 1) You sat there and bought all of those lady drinks. 2) You did not nip that shit in the bud in the beginning.

Well said Bro, last time, I told her off and the rest of the evening was wonderful.

Undercoverh
03-19-11, 02:13
Wow! AC has changed a lot since the last time I was there 14 years ago. Mega go-go bars, ABC hotel and others like it, new malls. Gee! I have been reading lots of reveiws here and going to "you tube" to check out the bars in AC.

One thing I noticed is that the go-go bars like Crystal Palace seem to have lots of Prima donnas and they are on a set procedure (e.g, walk here, turn, smile, dance a little, etc.) and asking price up to P3, 000, gee (has anyone had a good experienc with these girls?). I plan to stay in the area I first went to 14 years ago, Don Juico Ave where the BF can still be had for around P1, 000 (as low as P600 14 years ago).

I have booked my hotel room at ABC (wow, great looking place on the website). Next door and down the street from ABC, lots of small bars, just the way I like it. Not a lot of guys in the bars, more girls than guys, and you get set up close to the girls and the girls are free to act as they like (not like the set procedures at the big go-go bars). In the small go-go bars, I feel like a big fish in a small pond. I have been to go-go bars where there a ton of guys and the girls act like they are at a real bar. One thing about PI, the light color skin girls think they are hot shit. The brown color skin girls tend to be more down to earth....these are the girls I like, I love them long time if they are fresh off the boat, young (over 18) and cute! They are easy to please and they tend to try to make you happy. This is just my POV.

Since I have not been to AC in 14 years (and I am not as young as I use to be) is it safe to be out late at night on Don Juico Ave? By late, I guess my bar visits would stop around 1 or 2 a.m. Also, how about out late on Perimeter Road?

Also, one thing I noticed about PI compared to 14 years ago, there are a lot more girls working the P4P life, and a lot more PI girls on website. I joined cherry blossoms for fun and with no effort, I have came in contact with lots of girls and ladies....one lady was 68! Don't laugh, but she is way older than me and I am interested in doing her. I have never had a granny before. She is game so I plan to meet her Manila after I leave AC.....hey, I said don't laugh. Thanks for the info.

Nolz7
03-19-11, 12:53
Wow! AC has changed a lot since the last time I was there 14 years ago. Mega go-go bars, ABC hotel and others like it, new malls. Gee! I have been reading lots of reveiws here and going to "you tube" to check out the bars in AC.

One thing I noticed is that the go-go bars like Crystal Palace seem to have lots of Prima donnas and they are on a set procedure (e. G, walk here, turn, smile, dance a little, etc.) and asking price up to P3, 000, gee (has anyone had a good experienc with these girls?). I plan to stay in the area I first went to 14 years ago, Don Juico Ave where the BF can still be had for around P1, 000 (as low as P600 14 years ago).

I have booked my hotel room at ABC (wow, great looking place on the website). Next door and down the street from ABC, lots of small bars, just the way I like it. Not a lot of guys in the bars, more girls than guys, and you get set up close to the girls and the girls are free to act as they like (not like the set procedures at the big go-go bars). In the small go-go bars, I feel like a big fish in a small pond. I have been to go-go bars where there a ton of guys and the girls act like they are at a real bar. One thing about PI, the light color skin girls think they are hot shit. The brown color skin girls tend to be more down to earth. These are the girls I like, I love them long time if they are fresh off the boat, young (over 18) and cute! They are easy to please and they tend to try to make you happy. This is just my POV.

Since I have not been to AC in 14 years (and I am not as young as I use to be) is it safe to be out late at night on Don Juico Ave? By late, I guess my bar visits would stop around 1 or 2 a. M. Also, how about out late on Perimeter Road?

Also, one thing I noticed about PI compared to 14 years ago, there are a lot more girls working the P4P life, and a lot more PI girls on website. I joined cherry blossoms for fun and with no effort, I have came in contact with lots of girls and ladies. One lady was 68! Don't laugh, but she is way older than me and I am interested in doing her. I have never had a granny before. She is game so I plan to meet her Manila after I leave AC. Hey, I said don't laugh. Thanks for the info.You might need a special lubricant to do her. LOL

Nvslim
03-20-11, 11:50
You might need a special lubricant to do her. LOLI hear Wesson Oil* will lube anything.

Slim.

* (Vegetable cooking oil)

Ekspat
03-20-11, 11:59
I hear Wesson Oil* will lube anything.For me I use baby oil for difficult cases, hehe. .

Streetlooker
03-20-11, 21:10
For me I use baby oil for difficult cases, hehe. .Baby oil destroys the condom? Breaks it up slowly

Fast Eddie 48
03-21-11, 00:32
I hear Wesson Oil* will lube anything.

Slim.

* (Vegetable cooking oil) To Nvslim.

So will Penzoil motor oil for your car you just smell like shit.

Fast Eddie 48

Radical Guy
03-21-11, 01:32
I joined cherry blossoms for fun and with no effort, I have came in contact with lots of girls and ladies....one lady was 68! Don't laugh, but she is way older than me and I am interested in doing her. I have never had a granny before. She is game so I plan to meet her Manila after I leave AC.....hey, I said don't laugh.I think I'm going to lose my lunch! LOL.

RG

Mr Enternational
03-21-11, 08:16
Baby oil destroys the condom? Breaks it up slowlyWho said anything about condoms!

Rubio Tonto
03-21-11, 13:10
I agree some 1500 girls are better looking than the 3000. I believe they choose the 3000s on height and larger boobs, maybe lighter skin helps too. I'm referring to the DH chain of bars.

Golden Nile has all priced girls. Upstairs most are 2000p. Downstairs is stupid where the girl chooses what she wants to be. They have stupid titles feature dancer 2500, and model 3500, and regular girls 1500. One of girls I thought about taking out had called herself a "featured dancer" and her BF was 2500, the problem was that all the girls upstairs were 2000p and she wasn't as good as many of them. Another girl there who was pretty called herself a model and she was 3500p, but I had seen her at least 2 years ago sucking another girls tits on a bar. Her skin also felt saggy. Does smoking do this to the girls? Anyway GN lets average girls price themselves too high.

I have never had a 3000P girl in the Doll House chain of bars. My thought is that these girls already think they are above the other girls. My last trip I had drinks with two 3000P girls and both were really not interested in going. My thought is that for LT. 3000p girls are not good, because they have such a big opinion of themselves, so I've never consummated with one and I really don't seek them out. Have any of you had any good luck with these girls? I am not talking about ST. I'm more interested in LT and maybe they want to even be your GF. Sorry to reply so late. You've confused the floors in the Golden Nile building. When you go through the main entrance and the elevator is to your right and the stairs ahead and to the left, you're in the Golden Nile building. Once you go up the stairs, on the second floor you'll see a bar. This bar is the Blue Nile Executive Club. It used to be in a different location. I almost never stay at the BNE, almost always going up to the 3rd floor, which is the Golden Nile bar itself. I think the BNE is the one that has a number of tiered, confusing barfine prices.

The Golden Nile's barfines are 1500p for the standard girls. 2000p for the spotlight girls, and 4000p for the Daddy's Girls dance troupe. IMO, Golden Nile has the best combination of atmosphere, friendly girls, and hot girls on Fields Avenue. As for Perimeter, the best lineups I've seen are currently in Foxy Bar and in Lost In Asia. Plus, Candy Bar has excellent word of mouth, although I've never had a look.

The hotties with the big boobs in the first two photos are GN spotlight girls...the girls with the jackets are the Daddy's Girls.

Mackin
03-21-11, 19:32
So what about the girls in the white t shirts in picture 3. Are they Daddys girls. Must admit I think the better looking are in the last picturebut I would never pay anything close to what they are asking. Still to much good at 1500 price and without the attitude.

Thanks for the pictures though.

Sammon
03-21-11, 22:40
So what about the girls in the white t shirts in picture 3. Are they Daddys girls. Must admit I think the better looking are in the last picturebut I would never pay anything close to what they are asking. Still to much good at 1500 price and without the attitude.

Thanks for the pictures though. Just look at the logo on the T shirts. It says they are daddy girls.

Boricua
03-22-11, 05:12
I've been pondering this question for a long time. The reason why I enjoy this forum is because I share something in common with most of you. I have been to the PI several times, I love filipiinas. I really feel comfortable in the PI. It's a place where I a totally at ease. I have tried to share this with some of my friends who just simply do not get it. I am not sure if appreciating the beauty of filipinas and asian ladies in general is an acquired taste. Western ladies quite simply do not do much for me. Of course there are exceptions, but as a general rule and all things being equal I prefer asian ladies. I don't think I am special nor am I crazy. Maybe I'm just different from my friends.

Mr Enternational
03-22-11, 09:51
I've been pondering this question for a long time. The reason why I enjoy this forum is because I share something in common with most of you. I have been to the PI several times, I love filipiinas. I really feel comfortable in the PI. It's a place where I a totally at ease. I have tried to share this with some of my friends who just simply do not get it. I am not sure if appreciating the beauty of filipinas and asian ladies in general is an acquired taste. Western ladies quite simply do not do much for me. Of course there are exceptions, but as a general rule and all things being equal I prefer asian ladies. I don't think I am special nor am I crazy. Maybe I'm just different from my friends.I don't like seafood.

Red Rex
03-23-11, 23:25
A belated report of touring trip in July-August last year. I decided to avoid Manila and start from Angeles where I hoped to find a couple of suitable touring companions, of the female gender of course. At Aquino airport I couldn't resist the methods of my old backpacking days, avoided the rip off transport into the city, walked the 100 metres or so to the main road and caught the bus to the bus depot for a few centavos. A cramped, fetid, stifling journey followed which I vowed not to do again, at least on this trip.

I spent the first night at the selubrious Orchid and did the rounds of all the major night clubs, which just served to remind me how much I detested the late nights-sleep-half-the-day-away roundabout, well at least for more than a couple of days. In the end I found an LBFM at the poolside and restaurant area of the hotel, to keep me satisfied for the night.

I've often found that you can probably find the best girls more at the outskirts of these sorts of places away from the hurly-burly and nonsense of the main areas. In Pattaya I preferred to go 'hunting' around Jongtien and further afield and found some real gems, some well educated with good daytime jobs.

Thus began some hours of a walking tour. Around sunset I found a place, a hotel with no guests and very few foreigners, about an hours walk along Clark Road past the perimeter area. Well, it took about an hour after popping into every establishment along the way. There were two girls ('on duty' hostesses) wearing mini-skirted business style suits with jackets. They looked really good. One immediately invited me to games of pool. I found her fairly plain and coldish in manner while the other was very pretty, had an expressive face and personality, and beautiful smile, kind of very demure and feminine. She caught my eye occasionally from a distance with her beautiful flirtatious eyes and smile. Eventually I tired of the pool games and was invited to sit down on a cramped sofa between the two of them. The gorgeous one (Mariana or Mari) was immediately very GFE with body language and smile to match, while the other remained a sort of unresponsive cold fish (Beth). Soon of course my hand was running up Mari's thighs slowly creeping to her honey regions when she gently removed my hand with a coy smile and twinkle in her eye ('stop it I like it' sort of thing) , and smilingly whispered something to Beth. I was hooked.

Both girls were 22. I asked Mari how long she had been there and in an embarassed and shy way said two years. I realised the embarassment was because basically, like many of the girls here, she was seeking a foreign husband and a genuine life of marital bliss. With her looks and personality it was difficult to understand why she hadn't found one long ago. But she couldn't stand the degenerate hurly-burly and nonsense of the main night club and bar area where the action is, and where all the foreigners hang out.

Without delay I asked her if she was interested in an adventure touring trip with lots of outdoor activity: walking, hiking, swimming, snorkelling, diving, boating etc. I mentioned she might like to invite Beth along as well, to which she assented. They were best friends and I had the feeling that inviting Beth might fill in the communication and entertainment gaps which I might have trouble fulfilling at times.

Mari then pointed out a tall girl (about 5'8) , one of about eight 'off-duty' girls milling around, who was into the outdoors. I was immediately struck by this girl's (name Ana) very Euro looks and manner, statuesque, atheletic build, and elegant bearing. She had a great body with concommitant movement in other words. Her father had been a retired US naval officer and began his naval career on the USS Turner Joy of vietnam and Tomkin Bay fame (or infamy). After he died she and her brothers and sisters fell on hard times when her father's 'American family' stripped all his Philippino assets away. She was 23, well educated at International Schools and had a university degree at a reasonable university in Manila. She was taking a break from her job at a city bank. Then what was she doing here? To 'earn more money and support her younger brother and sister through university'. She showed me pictures of her family, and of a high-flying American lawyer boyfriend who financially supported her.

So she was well educated, spoke exceptionally fluent English, and could hold conversations of some breadth and depth, which made a change.

I asked Mari if she minded Ana coming along and Mari said she got on quite well with her so it was all good. After paying over the fine and costs for the week ahead and arrangements for the balance on return, Mari and Beth returned with me to my hotel. Mari immediatley fulfilled her promise of being an excellent GFE and was sexually wonderfully proactive. Next day we did some shopping as Mari wanted to buy some suitable clothes. I made sure they brought along their business suits which I found sexy. She had really good taste and chose clothes that made her look good, including a couple of thong bikinis and panties etc. We then set about hiring a car and a driver and picked up Ana.

To be continued.

FurryFriend
03-24-11, 00:44
Thus began some hours of a walking tour. Around sunset I found a place, a hotel with no guests and very few foreigners, about an hours walk along Clark Road past the perimeter area.Angeles City isn't a place where you want to walk around randomly for hours away from tourist areas.

Mackin
03-24-11, 13:01
My friend I totally agree with you. North American woman don't do anything foe me either. At least 99% of them don't. Let me say the word moo with an attitude comes to my mind. At least where I live. Sexy is not part of there makeup, Some can be nice but I don't want to fu*k nice. We are visual people so let the visual part be a big part of what we like.

Some of my friends get it about Asian woman and other don't have a clue. Same as you circumstances. I have a friend who is a little older and his girl friend is older yet. I keep trying to explain to him to come with us on one of the adventures. He hasn't been able to tear himself away from her. So last week he says she doesn't do anything for him and she goes to bed at 8PM. Sex maybe once a month but she just does it because I want to. I do hope he gets to see the world before he is dead. I bet he doesn't though.

The asian woman from the PI are especially GFE although I like the Thais and Chinese. I to feel very comfortable with the ladies of PI. I need to explore more in other countries though to offer other remarks.

I do like the South American chicas as well. The visual and sexualness can be outstanding. There attitude is better than N. A. Woman even when you know you are getting used. But when I go there I go to get used, at least a little and I do the same for them.

May we both keep enjoying our hobby with all the great things it can provide.

Boricua
03-24-11, 15:55
I was married to a Chinese lady and am currently living with a Thai lady. Great sex with both the Chinese and Thai lady. I have been to China several times but have yet been able to work in a trip to Thailand. I am latino so I understand and been with my share of latino women. I still prefer Asian ladies. There is something magical about boarding that plane and heading to Asia. I may try Thailand sometime this year, in the meantime I am headed for a 4 week trip to AC and Subic Bay either in May or June. My very best friend in the world has been married for about a million years. He and I had great times when we were in our twenties. I have been talking to him about the PI for the longest time because I know he needs a change and some excitement in his life. I'm coming into a little extra cash soon and am seriously thinking about paying for his trip. I would really love to see the expression on his face when he arrives in AC and enters his first bar. Should be fun.


My friend I totally agree with you. North American woman don't do anything foe me either. At least 99% of them don't. Let me say the word moo with an attitude comes to my mind. At least where I live. Sexy is not part of there makeup, Some can be nice but I don't want to fu*k nice. We are visual people so let the visual part be a big part of what we like.

Some of my friends get it about Asian woman and other don't have a clue. Same as you circumstances. I have a friend who is a little older and his girl friend is older yet. I keep trying to explain to him to come with us on one of the adventures. He hasn't been able to tear himself away from her. So last week he says she doesn't do anything for him and she goes to bed at 8PM. Sex maybe once a month but she just does it because I want to. I do hope he gets to see the world before he is dead. I bet he doesn't though.

The asian woman from the PI are especially GFE although I like the Thais and Chinese. I to feel very comfortable with the ladies of PI. I need to explore more in other countries though to offer other remarks.

I do like the South American chicas as well. The visual and sexualness can be outstanding. There attitude is better than N. A. Woman even when you know you are getting used. But when I go there I go to get used, at least a little and I do the same for them.

May we both keep enjoying our hobby with all the great things it can provide.

Edward M
03-24-11, 20:17
Was reading some sites on AC and came across something very promising, a Brazilian Churrascaria at the Holiday Inn Clark on Mimosa Road. I am a huge fan of churrascaria and it is one thing I miss now that I no longer travel to Brazil.

Hopefully someone that has been to the churrascarias in Brazil has also been to this one and can make a comparison. Is it authentic Brazilian bbq? Many types of beef? Current price?

All of the reviews that I read are out-of-date so I cannot go on prices there. Of course their website (

http://www.holidayinn.com/hotels/us/en/clark-field/clfrp/hoteldetail/dining

) gives no details.

Freezone
03-24-11, 23:45
The asian woman from the PI are especially GFE although I like the Thais and Chinese. I to feel very comfortable with the ladies of PI. .Although off topic here, I do agree with about the Filipina, mainly because no language barrier makes getting to know them easier.

Thais are ok once you get to communicate with them, even in a limited way.

Chinsese (at least the ones I've been with) were for the most part, mechanical and materialistic.

FZ

Freezone
03-24-11, 23:49
Angeles City isn't a place where you want to walk around randomly for hours away from tourist areas.Ha ha. Sorry, but I didn't know AC had a tourist area. Now I must go back and try to find all the historic places I missed the last time out.

Cheers

X Man
03-25-11, 02:22
I have got to say that the quality of fine young women in AC is higher than I've ever seen before. Damn.

Surprising conversation: I was in a Diamond area bar and was talking to the gal about her work. She said she had worked there for only two weeks. Okay, I've heard that before. Then she follows up by saying,"My mother wanted me to. My father too." Damn!

Another bizarre thing: Hooked up with a petite 19yr old with hair to her waist. Not stunningly beautiful, but great legs and some nice curves relative to her small size. She gets a lot of stares. Especially from me. Anyway, she's on the phone and she mentions to me it is "mamma". As she talks I overhear conversation about bar fines and the fact that she is in my room, my nationality, etc. I assume it is the mama-san from the bar. No. It's her mother. Damn!

I don't usually spend long periods of time in AC, but this trip I did. One thing that I figured out, but must be obvious to some of the others, is that hotels, esp. Good ones, are more likely to be booked on the weekends. I assume that expats from Manila come to AC for the weekends.

Cocktails on the top of ABC hotel are 290 pesos. It's almost worth it but they have too many staff up there who tend to stare at you as they wait for your next order. They also are great at chatting noisly among themselves to the point that you can't enjoy the music being played. Not far from ABC Hotel is another rooftop br / restaurant above the small supermarket (Jay jays?). At night you will see a blue sign TUGS on the top. It's more Filipino style, but a hell of a lot cheaper than ABC. X

Patty Boy
03-26-11, 09:12
On my first night in the Philippines, I will be arriving in Angeles at probably 1 or 2 am. Is this too late for me to do anything on that first day or will I still be able to go out and bar fine or go clubbing? Also is it safe out that late at night?

X Man
03-26-11, 09:26
Quite a few bars stay open until 4am and at least one, Doll House, is open 24 hours. These places are on the main strip called Fields. The only danger is that most of the really hot ones will have been barfined by that late hour. X.


On my first night in the Philippines, I will be arriving in Angeles at probably 1 or 2 am. Is this too late for me to do anything on that first day or will I still be able to go out and bar fine or go clubbing? Also is it safe out that late at night?

Red Kilt
03-26-11, 11:01
On my first night in the Philippines, I will be arriving in Angeles at probably 1 or 2 am. Is this too late for me to do anything on that first day or will I still be able to go out and bar fine or go clubbing? Also is it safe out that late at night?Obviously you have not delved very far into the forum or read many posts in thsi thread alone.

Answers are: Yes it's not too late and Yes it is safe to go out that late at night

MauiDude
03-26-11, 16:05
On my first night in the Philippines, I will be arriving in Angeles at probably 1 or 2 am. Is this too late for me to do anything on that first day or will I still be able to go out and bar fine or go clubbing? Also is it safe out that late at night?Go to fields ave. Lots of bars open till 3 or 4 am and a few 24 hours.

Relatively safe.

I go out all hours of the night and very little problems.

More police out there lately with the new mayor s program.

Just keep aware. And stay to the main areas.

Edward M
03-26-11, 18:49
Similar story. I stayed with a girl for a few days. She was a local. I called her up to see if she was coming over that night. She said yes and said her mother was coming with her to meet me. I thought,"No good can come from this," and asked her to leave mom home.

WestCoast1
03-26-11, 19:46
Similar story. I stayed with a girl for a few days. She was a local. I called her up to see if she was coming over that night. She said yes and said her mother was coming with her to meet me. I thought,"No good can come from this," and asked her to leave mom home.A few days before my trip to AC a while back I met a young girl from Balibago in DIA. One chat. Once I got to AC we chatted again. She wanted to meet right away. I suggested lunch in the mall. She wanted to bring her mom to meet me. I resisted. She insisted on McDo on Fields / Mac, and bringing her mom. Finally I agreed to buy them lunch there. When I got to Mcdo they were sitting there. The girl, who had been on cam an hour before, and an older woman, too old to be her mom. An older aunt maybe, or grandma. Almost no talk while we waited in line and got our food, then sat and ate. I wondered if there would be any discussion of anything. I remember laughing to myself that I might just finish my food and leave, without talking to them. As they finished their meal, they spoke softly to each other in tag. The older lady stood up and grabbed my shirt sleeve and walked away. I walked after her, we stopped about 10 feet from the girl.

Old lady: she like you want to stay you.

Me: its fine.

Old lady: she need some help.

Me: with what.

Old lady: she need some peso [old lady now appearing to be the pimp]

Me: how much.

Old lady: any you can for her.

Me: maybe I can help.

Old lady: o-o.

Me: when you want her back.

Old lady: up to you sir. You keep any days you like. Also if you want travel you just take her ok.

Me: are you really her mom?

Old lady: no. Her mom die. Her mom my young seester [the old lady was an aunt]

And that was it. The old lady walked out the front door of McDo and didn't look back. I kept the girl about 24 hours, banging her 3 times. Took her barhopping (she was embarrassed by the bars). Bought her dinner and breakfast. She loved McDo. Put p1000 in her purse and sent her on her way walking down fields. Everyone seemed happy. We didn't chat online after that and she didn't txt.

Few days later on her YM avatar message: "I love you Henry! I'm getting marry tomorow!" There was a pic of her and an older white guy (about 60-ish). Wonder if Henry had any idea someone triple-banged his fiancee a few days before his wedding? Ahh, the memories.

Canyon
03-26-11, 19:52
I'm planning to stay in Makati for six days in April, but would like to take a side trip to Angeles City to see what it's like. I understand it's about an hour-and-a-half drive to AC from Manila. I was thinking about taking a taxi during the day, visiting some of the bars, taking a girl out for three hours of fund in a local hotel, then returning before evening. I understand some of the AC bars are open during the day or even 24/7. I would appreciate any advice on my plan such as which bars to visit, which hotel to book for three hurs, cost of girl and hotel, how to get there, etc. Thank you for any advice.

Canyon

Rubio Tonto
03-26-11, 20:55
Few days later on her YM avatar message: "I love you Henry! I'm getting marry tomorow!" There was a pic of her and an older white guy (about 60-ish). Wonder if Henry had any idea someone triple-banged his fiancee a few days before his wedding? Ahh, the memories.ROFL! Great story, Westcoast.

Screaming Beaver
03-26-11, 21:17
I have got to say that the quality of fine young women in AC is higher than I've ever seen before. Damn.That seems contrary to what most have reported on this board. Are you sure your comment was not related to heavy drinking? Are you a Korean?

WestCoast1
03-26-11, 22:26
I'm planning to stay in Makati for six days in April, but would like to take a side trip to Angeles City to see what it's like. I understand it's about an hour-and-a-half drive to AC from Manila. I was thinking about taking a taxi during the day, visiting some of the bars, taking a girl out for three hours of fund in a local hotel, then returning before evening. I understand some of the AC bars are open during the day or even 24/7. I would appreciate any advice on my plan such as which bars to visit, which hotel to book for three hurs, cost of girl and hotel, how to get there, etc. Thank you for any advice.

CanyonHit the short-time bars on Santos Street. About 4-5 bars across from Shano's Irish Pub. All girls are p700 for 4-hour takeout. Grab two girls for some afternoon delight. Get a room at Central Park (just around the block from Santos St. 1-minute walk). Hell go for the night, head back to Makati in the morning. The trip from Makati to AC in the daytime is 2+ hours. Night with no traffic is 90 minutes.

WestCoast1
03-26-11, 22:36
ROFL! Great story, Westcoast.RT: This is not the first girl who's mother or aunt left her with me for as long as I wanted. This one was 18, while another was 20. Within two weeks both were married to some other guy, complete with a pic of the girl and her new older (much) white guy in her YM avatar. The older gal came to me in Manila, complete with mom and an aunt. After buying them dinner the mom & aunt left the girl with me. After keeping her a few days and flying home, I chatted her on a Saturday morning filipines time. She asked for some pesos, and I said no. She got mad and went offline. A few days later in her YM pic is her sitting with a fat old white guy, her new husband. In chat she said she got married Saturday evening. Sent pics and everything. She asked me for money on a Saturday morning while on cam in her home, and married the other guy Saturday evening. Welcome to filipines!

DriveAllNight
03-26-11, 22:51
A few days before my trip to AC a while back I met a young girl from Balibago in DIA. One chat. Once I got to AC we chatted again. She wanted to meet right away. I suggested lunch in the mall. She wanted to bring her mom to meet me. I resisted. She insisted on McDo on Fields / Mac, and bringing her mom. Finally I agreed to buy them lunch there. When I got to Mcdo they were sitting there. The girl, who had been on cam an hour before, and an older woman, too old to be her mom. An older aunt maybe, or grandma. Almost no talk while we waited in line and got our food, then sat and ate. I wondered if there would be any discussion of anything. I remember laughing to myself that I might just finish my food and leave, without talking to them. As they finished their meal, they spoke softly to each other in tag. The older lady stood up and grabbed my shirt sleeve and walked away. I walked after her, we stopped about 10 feet from the girl.

Old lady: she like you want to stay you.

Me: its fine.

Old lady: she need some help.

Me: with what.

Old lady: she need some peso [old lady now appearing to be the pimp]

Me: how much.

Old lady: any you can for her.

Me: maybe I can help.

Old lady: o-o.

Me: when you want her back.

Old lady: up to you sir. You keep any days you like. Also if you want travel you just take her ok.

Me: are you really her mom?

Old lady: no. Her mom die. Her mom my young seester [the old lady was an aunt]

And that was it. The old lady walked out the front door of McDo and didn't look back. I kept the girl about 24 hours, banging her 3 times. Took her barhopping (she was embarrassed by the bars). Bought her dinner and breakfast. She loved McDo. Put p1000 in her purse and sent her on her way walking down fields. Everyone seemed happy. We didn't chat online after that and she didn't txt.

Few days later on her YM avatar message: "I love you Henry! I'm getting marry tomorow!" There was a pic of her and an older white guy (about 60-ish). Wonder if Henry had any idea someone triple-banged his fiancee a few days before his wedding? Ahh, the memories. Hi Redman!