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Member #4698
08-17-11, 15:50
Philippines without a doubt. More bang, less buck, better communication.Thailand without a doubt IMHO. Higher percentage of attractive, inviting women and much better food. The best thing about the Philippines is the unspoiled beaches, but that has nothing to do with women. Overall I guess I just prefer Buddhist culture and women over a Christian culture and women. Filipinas remind me too much of Latina girls I can get back home in Florida. Also due to their junk food diet, too many PI girls have tummy roll.

The bottom line is anyone who travels to Asia regularly eventually visits both countries. Diversity is a good thing. I enjoy PI and I doubt you can find anyone on this forum who says they don't have a good time in the Philippines, but overall I think Thailand is better.

As to best bang for the buck...I think AC wins that contest over Pattaya, but if you want to stay at ABC or Lewis your costs will rise.

I will be back in South East Asia in February for my big 6 week fuckfest extravaganza, visiting Macau (expensive, but fantastic women) AC, Cebu and Manila (looking forward to it), and then Pattaya and BKK (I can't visit Asia and not go here). I hope this helps. If not, just pick a place PI or Thailand and go. You can't make a wrong decision on this.

Jedidk
08-17-11, 16:09
Thailand without a doubt IMHO. Higher percentage of attractive, inviting women and much better food. The best thing about the Philippines is the unspoiled beaches, but that has nothing to do with women. Overall I guess I just prefer Buddhist culture and women over a Christian culture and women. Filipinas remind me too much of Latina girls I can get back home in Florida. Also due to their junk food diet, too many PI girls have tummy roll.

The bottom line is anyone who travels to Asia regularly eventually visits both countries. Diversity is a good thing. I enjoy PI and I doubt you can find anyone on this forum who says they don't have a good time in the Philippines, but overall Thailand is better.

As to best bang for the buck. I think AC wins that contest over Pattaya, but if you want to stay at ABC or Lewis your costs will rise.

I will be back in South East Asia in February for my big 6 week fuckfest extravaganza, visiting Macau (expensive, but fantastic women) AC, Cebu and Manila (looking forward to it) , and then Pattaya and BKK (I can't visit Asia and not go here).

I hope this helps. If not, just pick a place PI or Thailand and go. You can't make a wrong decision on this.Both opinions help. I have seen a lot of photos of Thai workers and they look amazing. The PI girls look great too in my opinion, but I think the only reason I would go there is for the fun. I have to look into the cost of staying in AC, as I was considering Manila. I am thinking a two day trip would be fun, great if I could find a generic V pill. We will see what happens.

Thanks again!

Ekspat
08-17-11, 16:44
I want an honest opinion of which is a better place to monger for a few days. I heard great things about Angles city and Thailand. The only factor right now is, Thailand is more expensive to travel to or me then Philippines? Which is a better mongering scene and which gives you more bang for your buck?For a newbie I'd recommend Thailand.

HenryV
08-17-11, 16:56
Planning my annual trip to the Phillipines which may include a trip to Angeles.

Can anyone who is, or has been, there during the raids weigh in with some on any info regarding the climate (not meteorically). I want to know whats the scene is like before I book my hotlel. I find it interesing that, after reading other web sites, there seems to be little comment on this thread.

Thanks.

Amjeck
08-17-11, 17:11
I want an honest opinion of which is a better place to monger for a few days. I heard great things about Angles city and Thailand. The only factor right now is, Thailand is more expensive to travel to or me then Philippines? Which is a better mongering scene and which gives you more bang for your buck?It's funny how this question always seems to pop up.

Thailand:

1. Slim women.

2. A bit more expensive.

3. Good Food.

4. Good infrastructure.

5. Buddhism.

6. Don't like foreigners.

7. Loose prostitution laws for foreigners.

8. Language barrier.

9. Relatively smart people.

10. Serious tourism industry.

Phil:

1. Chubby women

2. A bit cheaper.

3. Bad food.

4. Bad infrastructure.

5. Catholisism.

6. More foreigner friendly (not as much hatred)

7. Stricter prostitution laws.

8. Speak English.

9. Dumb people.

10. Mickey mouse tourism industry

FurryFriend
08-18-11, 07:29
I want an honest opinion of which is a better place to monger for a few days. I heard great things about Angles city and Thailand.I've been to Angeles City and Pattaya. Let me tell ya. You need to experience both and figure it out for yourself. No amount of suggestions from forummers will have any worth to you because no one can possibly know your unique tastes and preferances.

Airfare between the two countries are so cheap, there's no reason why you need to select one over the other. If you only have a few days off, select one location and save the other for your next vacation.

Here's a few insights from me.

Thai girls are clearly taller than Filipinas. But, unlike what others have said, I don't think Filipinas are particularly more chubby than Thais. IMO, Filipinas are only marginally chubbier. When I visited Pattaya for the first time, I was disappointed to see Thai girls were not as slender as I had imagined. That's because Thai chicks are also eating fast food and fried street food and giving birth.

What annoyed me most about Thai girls is, they tend to be heavily tattooed.

I don't believe Thai girls have an anti-foreigner attitude. They're just not as fascinated with American culture as their Filipina counterparts. Because Thais have more of an Asian-centric view, they seem to more receptive to Asian men than Western men.

I think you should visit Pattaya first to bang as much girls as possible. Then, once the thrill has worn off, go to Angeles City to have more of a girlfriend experience. That would be a complete sex vacation.

MauiDude
08-18-11, 07:56
I've been to Angeles City and Pattaya. Let me tell ya. You need to experience both and figure it out for yourself. No amount of suggestions from forummers will have any worth to you because no one can possibly know your unique tastes and preferances.

What annoyed me most about Thai girls is, they tend to be heavily tattooed.

I don't believe Thai girls have an anti-foreigner attitude. They're just not as fascinated with American culture as their Filipina counterparts. Because Thais have more of an Asian-centric view, they seem to more receptive to Asian men than Western men.

I think you should visit Pattaya first to bang as much girls as possible. Then, once the thrill has worn off, go to Angeles City to have more of a girlfriend experience. That would be a complete sex vacation.No angeles and the filipinas are too much trouble,

Everytime I go outside of my apartment there are about dozens of girls looking for a foreign guy.

They are too friendly and fall in love too easy.

And they don't dance naked on stage.

Pattaya they dance naked and the bodies are hot. (I am also okay with the tattoo girls. If they are skinny)

I only go to Thailand for some variety. And usually take a bi filipina girlfriend with me.

Anyway I guess I should not worry there are enough girls here so I won't get left out if more people discover angeles.

And the Philippines

MauiDude
08-18-11, 08:01
Planning my annual trip to the Phillipines which may include a trip to Angeles.

Can anyone who is, or has been, there during the raids weigh in with some on any info regarding the climate (not meteorically). I want to know whats the scene is like before I book my hotlel. I find it interesing that, after reading other web sites, there seems to be little comment on this thread.

Thanks.Its like getting hit by lightning?

Or car accident/

Not likely but could happen?

Climate is nice and friendly. Just stay alert.

Hook up with other mongers and bar hop?

Be careful how you behave in public places don't get attention to your self.

And wait till you get to your room with the girls and have fun.

I still bar hop and no real issues other then getting a girl that really excites me.

Carry copy of your passport and keep most money in safe of good hotel.

Sxxxx
08-18-11, 09:20
It's funny how this question always seems to pop up.

Thailand:

1. Slim women.

2. A bit more expensive.

3. Good Food.

4. Good infrastructure.

5. Buddhism.

6. Don't like foreigners.

7. Loose prostitution laws for foreigners.

8. Language barrier.

9. Relatively smart people.

10. Serious tourism industry.

Phil:

1. Chubby women

2. A bit cheaper.

3. Bad food.

4. Bad infrastructure.

5. Catholisism.

6. More foreigner friendly (not as much hatred)

7. Stricter prostitution laws.

8. Speak English.

9. Dumb people.

10. Mickey mouse tourism industryAs far as I am concerned very objective and reliable guide for both Thailand and Philippines. Point 6 for Thailand also correct. They love your money, not you, LOL.

Nomadic Mong
08-18-11, 17:18
Guys,

After spending time in Pattaya, Siem Reap, Hanoi, heading to AC day after tomorrow. Will be staying at Royal Amsterdam. Any short list of bars / places to try and taste AC please.

Biz99
08-19-11, 05:51
Thai girls are clearly taller than Filipinas. But, unlike what others have said, I don't think Filipinas are particularly more chubby than Thais. IMO, Filipinas are only marginally chubbier. When I visited Pattaya for the first time, I was disappointed to see Thai girls were not as slender as I had imagined. That's because Thai chicks are also eating fast food and fried street food and giving birth.

Some of them at the same time.

I agree that you need to experience both places, but there are some other spots worth checking out too. Jakarta is a totally different place too, and a lot of fun.

Living in Thailand, I make it to PI fairly often, and the differences are significant, but it all depends on how you approach each place. Pattaya bar girls are about the bottom of the scale for Thailand, but if you like the down and dirty type, the selection is almost limitless.

The Pattaya versus AC debate has been going on forever, and always will. Love to read it though.

Susu Lover
08-19-11, 07:06
Fellow Mongers,

One striking difference that I have noticed is how filipinas will latch on to your ass and will murder you if you BF another girl in the same bar. I don't notice Thai girls genuinely doing this. They will front like they lost some face, however it is just a show. Girls from PI will fall in love with you if you are a little too passionate in bed. Filipinas will sing love songs to your ass and stroke your hair, Thais will grab that cell phone and on to the next ST. Just a general observation.

I was coming off a bad breakup where I was with my GF for almost 3 years and discovered PI on accident and hadn't been laid in 3 months. I need some affection too. I found a stunner and banged her like a girlfriend instead of a screw. I nearly made love to that ass. The next morning this girl started making all kinds of plans for us together. My bad. The next week I was in Patts and discovered the true meaning of raunchy and I was shocked and appalled of what a porn star I was. But I was just that, no love. Even for a young handsum man. So in the end, it is up to you. You are the man and take it the way you want it.

Susu

Sky Ryder
08-19-11, 08:07
Guys,

After spending time in Pattaya, Siem Reap, Hanoi, heading to AC day after tomorrow. Will be staying at Royal Amsterdam. Any short list of bars / places to try and taste AC please.My personal "assault plan" for a day in AC, is start at After School (Perimeter Road) at opening time, then wander to Lost in Asia. Continue if necessary to Ponytails (they seem to have some real cute "shot girls") , by then things are open on Fields. My personal favs are Champange (for the GR girls) , Tropix, and Blue Nile Exec (2nd floor bar). By this time, I am usually done for the night, in more than one way! I like the Royal Amsterdam hotel, good locale and the rooms are okay as well. Have a grand ole time!

Sky

Poopbunny
08-19-11, 23:16
Fellow Mongers,

One striking difference that I have noticed is how filipinas will latch on to your ass and will murder you if you BF another girl in the same bar. I don't notice Thai girls genuinely doing this. They will front like they lost some face, however it is just a show. Girls from PI will fall in love with you if you are a little too passionate in bed. Filipinas will sing love songs to your ass and stroke your hair, Thais will grab that cell phone and on to the next ST. Just a general observation.

SusuThere is no doubt PI girls behave more like GF, I found Thai girls more mercenary.

If you are visiting mainly for the girls with a bit of tourism on the side, I would pick PI.

If you want great food, good sightseeing activities with a bit of girl on the side, I would pick Thailand.

FurryFriend
08-21-11, 10:38
Pattaya bar girls are about the bottom of the scale for Thailand, but if you like the down and dirty type, the selection is almost limitless.When I was out and about in Bangkok and Pattaya, I noticed non-pros were more attractive than the pros. Not to mention, the non-pros aren't as heavily tattooed as the pros and they tend to be more petite. So I concur about Pattaya bargirls being on the bottom of the barrel of Thai society.

Run Mann
08-21-11, 12:49
So I concur about Pattaya bargirls being on the bottom of the barrel of Thai society.In which country are BGs AKA hookers celebrated and not regarded as bottom feeders of society?

Biz99
08-21-11, 13:04
When I was out and about in Bangkok and Pattaya, I noticed non-pros were more attractive than the pros. Not to mention, the non-pros aren't as heavily tattooed as the pros and they tend to be more petite. So I concur about Pattaya bargirls being on the bottom of the barrel of Thai society.I was speaking more with regard to the scale of bargirls, but in Pattaya you find the worst in tourists as well as locals. The guys with no other place to go are among the visitors / residents and the Thais who feed off them are the worst of the natives, in my view.

I used to ride the BTS to meet up with buddies at Nana or Cowboy and I would tell my friends that I would leave the bars when I had seen more cute girls than in my car on the Skytrain. The girls outside of the bars are undoubtedly better looking in my taste, but the bars are "point and click"

Sammon
08-21-11, 13:15
My personal "assault plan" for a day in AC, is start at After School (Perimeter Road) at opening time, then wander to Lost in Asia. Continue if necessary to Ponytails (they seem to have some real cute "shot girls") , by then things are open on Fields. My personal favs are Champange (for the GR girls) , Tropix, and Blue Nile Exec (2nd floor bar). By this time, I am usually done for the night, in more than one way! I like the Royal Amsterdam hotel, good locale and the rooms are okay as well. Have a grand ole time!

SkyThe problem about early barfining say around 2-3 pm will be that what do you do with her? Unless she turns out to be good it will be a drag.

These girls are used to all night dancing, drinking and a festive atmosphere. They would not banging and sleeping all afternoon and night.

Many of the girls have problem sleeping before 2-3 am because their internal clock is set like that. That is why you see them watching TV all night.

But ofcourse if the girl turns out to be good company dinner, barhopping and maybe disco is on the menu.

Hookup09
08-22-11, 06:12
If your life is worth more then $8 a day then you have your answer. Drinking and motorbikes plus AC roads, crazy locals, crazier cops all adds up but bottom line is you are spending less then EIGHT dollars a DAY! By the way if you leave there I am sure you can have some sort of service if half that if you are a regular how big is AC anyway LOL.Well MC doing most activities carry some level of risk. Walking outside on any given day carries some risk the question is how much risk is really involved? Since I'm not a long time member of AC I don't really have a great picture and just looking for opinions on the matter, thanks for yours.

I do not intend to drive drunk but it may occur after spending several months or years here. Also don't knock $8 dollars a day that's $240 a month and that's the roughly the same amount I started saving 25 years ago to live in AC! LOL Also $240 a month is roughly 5 ladies for the night.

ManonsanBoy
08-22-11, 12:19
Fellow Mongers,

One striking difference that I have noticed is how filipinas will latch on to your ass and will murder you if you BF another girl in the same bar.

SusuIt is very difficult to tell with filipinas where the show ends and the real feelings begin. So much about the Philippines is pure bulls*t; it is in the national culture. I think it is mostly show but hey, they often cannot tell themselves!

X Man
08-22-11, 12:48
My own experiences are quite different. The daytime gals have a reason for an early departure and most guys can accept that. Sammon may have found someone special (desperate?) , but a lot of the day gals need to be home to family, or need to take care of kids, or have to take a call from Sugar Daddy.

Sammon, do you live in AC?


The problem about early barfining say around 2-3 pm will be that what do you do with her? Unless she turns out to be good it will be a drag.

These girls are used to all night dancing, drinking and a festive atmosphere. They would not banging and sleeping all afternoon and night.

Many of the girls have problem sleeping before 2-3 am because their internal clock is set like that. That is why you see them watching TV all night.

But ofcourse if the girl turns out to be good company dinner, barhopping and maybe disco is on the menu.

White Whale
08-22-11, 15:28
In which country are BGs AKA hookers celebrated and not regarded as bottom feeders of society?REAL Geishas in Japan?

Run Mann
08-22-11, 17:10
REAL Geishas in Japan?No, but nice attempt. The bubble gum analysis on some of these threads (like stating the obvious) is now vogue but this is AC so it's quite fitting with the populous.

Sammon
08-22-11, 17:18
My own experiences are quite different. The daytime gals have a reason for an early departure and most guys can accept that. Sammon may have found someone special (desperate?) , but a lot of the day gals need to be home to family, or need to take care of kids, or have to take a call from Sugar Daddy.

Sammon, do you live in AC?No, I do not live in AC.

Mahaba
08-23-11, 21:14
What are some of your opinions regarding buying a motorbike while living in good old Angeles city? The reason I ask is because USA has such a dam high death rate with motorbikes and injuries and I can't imagine it being any better in Angeles and probably a hella lot worse. Add into the mix the high temptation to go out drinking then wanting to drive after and I think it might be less of a good idea. However I'm paying roughly 100 to 150 peso per trip so assuming I am paying 300 peso per day for a taxi and I buy a bike for 50, 000 peso thats only 166 days until break even point.

I of course understand that's a bit simplistic since you have to consider possible shake downs, insurance, maintenance and gas but its a rough model, thoughts?I used to live in PI and had a motorcycle & car.

One thing I learned quickly is I could never take a "relaxing" ride anywhere.

The roads are very hazardous. The locals use them like sidewalks and walk all sorts of animals, such as goats, caribou, etc. If you hit one you pay for the animal, its descendents, and lost income due to the loss.

Speaking of Caribou, they sometimes are tied to a tree with a long rope, then decide to cross the road. This makes life interesting for passing motorcycles.

I also had an experience while leaving a local market in my car. An old woman placed her basket of stuff in front of my car, and then walked away a few feet, waiting for me to run it over. I simply got out, moved the basket, and drove away.

Mahaba
08-23-11, 21:25
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

I see philosophical discussions about the "Inner Hooker", Hookers that don't show love, Hookers that lie, Hookers that leave early, Crazy Hookers, Ugly Hookers, Fat Hookers, Skinny Hookers, Dirty Hookers, Drunk Hookers, Hookers you would marry if only she was not a hooker, etc.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

Mahaba

WestCoast1
08-24-11, 01:03
If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaQuite right. You first.

Jambo
08-24-11, 02:08
Riding a bike in AC.The PI At Night board has several resident Expats who apparently operate motorcycles in the PI. A fellow named Sammm comes to mind, he makes regular rides from Tagaytay to AC and Subic, and other places. There was talk of a motorcycle rental shop in Subic area, including a link to a page.

RasSpewtin
08-24-11, 04:52
Hello, All;

Yesterday I aquired a card that can be used for discounts on lady drinks and your own drinks in many of the Angeles City bars. It will not give you a discount on the barfine. I have already used it a few times and it is very worthwhile having. The cost of the discount card is currently zip, but you need to be in AC to get it (cannot download it online). I don't want to be perceived as a spammer as I have no personal financial gain whatsoever. With that in mind, please send a PM to me if interested.

Cheers;

Raz

Soapy Smith
08-24-11, 05:42
Speaking of Caribou, they sometimes are tied to a tree with a long rope, then decide to cross the road. This makes life interesting for passing motorcycles.Caribou live in arctic regions of the world, including Alaska, Northern Canada, Greenland, Scandinavia, and Northern Russia. A domesticated version, the reindeer, is used for pulling sleighs and other types of snowcraft in Northern Russia and Scandinavia. A very large male caribou may weigh upwards to 500 pounds (227 kg).

The carabao is a domesticated water buffalo that is used as a beast of burden in many Southeast Asian countries. They are used to pull plows and other agricultural implements and for pulling carts with produce to market. Carabao can weigh upwards to 1750 pounds (800 kg).

156774

156775

Hookup09
08-24-11, 08:46
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

I see philosophical discussions about the "Inner Hooker", Hookers that don't show love, Hookers that lie, Hookers that leave early, Crazy Hookers, Ugly Hookers, Fat Hookers, Skinny Hookers, Dirty Hookers, Drunk Hookers, Hookers you would marry if only she was not a hooker, etc.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaHello, Mahaba your write up is pretty funny if you look through the threads I can see where your coming from. I think its because that is kinda of a given most people assume but then again maybe not. As for myself thats exactly what I have been doing. Getting laid, moving to the next hooker etc. However, after awhile you sorta get known in Ac since its not that big and you sorta end up dumping your buddies in the same set of girls. I have had multiple 3 somes so far. So yes some of us are having good times.

Mahaba
08-24-11, 09:14
Caribou live in arctic regions of the world, including Alaska, Northern Canada, Greenland, Scandinavia, and Northern Russia. A domesticated version, the reindeer, is used for pulling sleighs and other types of snowcraft in Northern Russia and Scandinavia. A very large male caribou may weigh upwards to 500 pounds (227 kg).

The carabao is a domesticated water buffalo that is used as a beast of burden in many Southeast Asian countries. They are used to pull plows and other agricultural implements and for pulling carts with produce to market. Carabao can weigh upwards to 1750 pounds (800 kg).

156774

156775Thanks for the correction Skip.

Bottom line: When a motorcycle and a carabo are involved inan accident, the motorcycle loses.

KyCuriosity
08-24-11, 14:30
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

I see philosophical discussions about the "Inner Hooker", Hookers that don't show love, Hookers that lie, Hookers that leave early, Crazy Hookers, Ugly Hookers, Fat Hookers, Skinny Hookers, Dirty Hookers, Drunk Hookers, Hookers you would marry if only she was not a hooker, etc.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaNo offense, but I read the board and glean the info I need. I have great sex with great hookers every time I go. I've only spent about 3 weeks total with all my trips in Angeles and had a different girl most nights. While several weren't the "Best I ever had". I only had a couple that were bad. It could be because I look extremely young despite my age and I get genuinely interested girls, but if guys didn't have good or great sex in Angeles, there wouldn't be any business there. I also doubt that this board would even exist if every guy had only bad times in Angeles. I just wish I had at least a picture of some of my girls.

One of my all time favorite girls was from Stampede, Whama. I think 1300P or something like that. She had the funniest little laugh. She worked as a door girl that night, grabbed my arm, hugged me, put her hand on my cheek and it was all over. She pulled me inside and we sat together and it was an instant connection. She didn't give a very good BJ, but very passionate in everything else. She had long straight hair and a perfect little slim body with just right breast size for her figure. I could have focused on how bad her BJ sucked, but I choose to remember the rest of it, and remind myself that I popped at least 4 times with her. And honestly, the cuddling was some of the best part of it. She really showed "GF" attitude while cuddling. 1.5 years later, I still think about her.

I can't wait to go again in February but I'm sure she won't be there anymore. I would definitely pay more for her if she was still in the business.

P. S. Does anyone stay at Walkabout Hotel? Does Ruby the front desk lady still work there?

Amjeck
08-24-11, 16:44
When I was out and about in Bangkok and Pattaya, I noticed non-pros were more attractive than the pros. Not to mention, the non-pros aren't as heavily tattooed as the pros and they tend to be more petite. So I concur about Pattaya bargirls being on the bottom of the barrel of Thai society.Non-pros are way more attractive than pros in Thailand. The reason for this is because there are enough rich thais now to keep these girls off the market. Thais are not poor. All the cream and semi cream is scooped up by the rich and upper middle class only leaving the dregs for foreigners / tourists. The Thailand of 30 years ago had the foreigners / tourists scooping up the cream.

Socker
08-24-11, 17:30
Non-pros are way more attractive than pros in Thailand. The reason for this is because there are enough rich thais now to keep these girls off the market. Thais are not poor. All the cream and semi cream is scooped up by the rich and upper middle class only leaving the dregs for foreigners / tourists. The Thailand of 30 years ago had the foreigners / tourists scooping up the cream.Excellent information Amject. What would we do here w / out guys like you.

D'regs, a nomadic and warlike people who inhabit the desert regions of hubward Klatch in the Discworld series.

Mackin
08-24-11, 18:55
I for one have to tell you I am not having a good time in AC. I am totally bored right now and just want to sleep. Of course this is because I am not in AC at the moment. Soon I will be there and the good times will begin again. Won't be bored, lonely or sleepy, just relaxed, happy and satisfied.

I can only think that you are not seeing the good reports because the guys are forced to stay in bed with their flavor of the day and don't have time to write. At least that is what I am expecting to do again.

Frenzy3
08-25-11, 03:18
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

I see philosophical discussions about the "Inner Hooker", Hookers that don't show love, Hookers that lie, Hookers that leave early, Crazy Hookers, Ugly Hookers, Fat Hookers, Skinny Hookers, Dirty Hookers, Drunk Hookers, Hookers you would marry if only she was not a hooker, etc.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaI think it so easy to have a good time in PI that most of us do not bother filling the forum with such posts. The posts are to help others not make mistakes and keep out of trouble.

WestCoast1
08-25-11, 05:37
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaSometimes I post the stories in the photo thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1185704&viewfull=1#post1185704

The Rooster1
08-28-11, 07:44
I do not see many reports on specific encounters with women in AC that involve good sex.

I see philosophical discussions about the "Inner Hooker", Hookers that don't show love, Hookers that lie, Hookers that leave early, Crazy Hookers, Ugly Hookers, Fat Hookers, Skinny Hookers, Dirty Hookers, Drunk Hookers, Hookers you would marry if only she was not a hooker, etc.

If anyone is actually having a good time, getting laid and then moving on the next hooker, please post your experience, especially if it was outstanding.

Thanks,

MahabaCurrently I have a reformed hooker staying at my hooker den. I love this reformed hooker so my stories of hooker experiences arent so grand. If I have a hooker experience lately, its because I have drunk myself into a state that I forget that I have a hooker in my hooker den and I sneak into another hooker's den. 3 weeks ago had a great time at the dirt street next to Garfields, but really can't remember because I was in a hooker / booze haze, but still shot a load into her so must have been ok!

The Rooster1
08-28-11, 07:49
The problem about early barfining say around 2-3 pm will be that what do you do with her? Unless she turns out to be good it will be a drag.

These girls are used to all night dancing, drinking and a festive atmosphere. They would not banging and sleeping all afternoon and night.

Many of the girls have problem sleeping before 2-3 am because their internal clock is set like that. That is why you see them watching TV all night.

But ofcourse if the girl turns out to be good company dinner, barhopping and maybe disco is on the menu.Sammon, bang her, take a nap and go get another!

The Rooster1
08-28-11, 07:53
Guys,

After spending time in Pattaya, Siem Reap, Hanoi, heading to AC day after tomorrow. Will be staying at Royal Amsterdam. Any short list of bars / places to try and taste AC please.Walk out the door of your hotel and turn left or right. You can't miss.

Nomadic Mong
08-28-11, 08:17
Based on posts in forum, how different AC is in particular GFE, I want to try it first hand in my trip recent trip to AC.

Having been to Pattaya LOS, and treated well in DD, my wild side has been taken care and I was ready for GFE. I decided spend 4 to 5 days in AC with no butterflying and develop a GFE. I want to do GFE with a twist by having a pair (I never had a pair for GFE before ).

After arriving in Royal Ams, and searching, found that Dollhouse is the place with action and stuff. Settled and looked for an innocent girl to start the GFE. Found Monica (25 – 2 months in business) and Mellisa (19 – 2 weeks in business) who are new to Dollhouse. Oh! My. I was luckly as next few days were blast. Both of them are good friends and staying next to each other house.

After paying the bar fine for the first night, went around AC. They took to parallel street of Fields where the girls hang around in Vidoike. Had good time listing their singing along with other bar girls who came there after their work. At 4 AM, had a good session with both and found how shy they were. They were not ready to remove the dress in front of each other. As Monica has two kids, sent her back to home and spend rest of the day with Mellisa and did the usual stuff of going to mall and buying stuff. Keep in mind these two are so new, they didn't even ask me for anything and I proposed them for this. After the shopping, Melisa want me to come to their home and see their family. It was surprise request but I was open. Visited their home (they were very very poor mind it so it was hard in some way) and spent some time talking with Melisa's family.

Nomadic Mong
08-28-11, 08:28
Evening, once again went together to Dollhouse and bar fined them (it was a regular thing for next 2 more days; 4 days in total with these two girls). During the day, I found out that these two girls haven't left AC at all in all their life and not seen a beach. So took both of them to Subic and had a wonderful dinner and beach walk in Blue Rock. They were relaxed and I slowly getting the hang of GFE in Asia. Started seeing the difference in having 2 girls for GFE. Monica is more sensual and more emotional and I started like her as GFE. Mellisa is will and great sex but nothing more.

Nomadic Mong
08-28-11, 08:31
Next day, sent them both home as I had some work to catch up. Got both back in the evening with a proposal which they didn't refuse but amused. I asked them that 3rd day, we will go to Mt. Pinetobu for a hike. They were surprised by request but agreed. 3rd day morning, we got up at 6 AM and went out to Mt. Pinetobu. Boy o Boy, how these girls stayed awake (myth – body rhythm to sleep during the morning) and hiked to the crater (6 KM up and down). Great / Best GFE experience so far in my life and overall great time beyond the good old bang bang. Had a good lunch / massage in Mt. Pinetobu Spa after hike.

Nomadic Mong
08-28-11, 08:39
This experience was too much and too fast. Decided to leave AC next day. Told the girls when I bar fined them that day night.

Next day went to Fortune for wonderful sit out lunch and IMHO, the best GFE with Monica. It has been a long time doing a session with GF during afternoon.

Overall, these girls especially Monica is great. Great for GFE but keep in mind, they are not wild Devil's Den / Eden type. They never wanted to leave me except when I sent Monica to take care of her daughters. They never asked me for more money. As a matter of fact, they were shy to ask money for Trike and once when I gave 500 peso, they returned it and asked me to give just 100 peso.

I know I was lucky with my experience based on random pick and it may not be same with other girls in AC. What ever may be the reason, overall I am very very happy / very very sad man after my days in AC. I am not sure if Iwill return to AC or not. This GFE stuff is too much! And Pattaya was easy as it was just another dinner a fast food place.

Thanks a lot for all your insights without which this trip would have happened. It was a long 3 week trip with 1 week in Pattaya. 1 week in Cambodia / Vietnam and 1 week in AC. If any of you need any help with FKK in Germany, just PM me.

P. S Considering I had hand on experience between Thai and AC with in a span of month, I will post a separate report on what think are different between these girls (of course with my limited knowledge in AC).

Boricua
08-28-11, 17:30
Looks like you guys had a great time.


Next day, sent them both home as I had some work to catch up. Got both back in the evening with a proposal which they didn't refuse but amused. I asked them that 3rd day, we will go to Mt. Pinetobu for a hike. They were surprised by request but agreed. 3rd day morning, we got up at 6 AM and went out to Mt. Pinetobu. Boy o Boy, how these girls stayed awake (myth – body rhythm to sleep during the morning) and hiked to the crater (6 KM up and down). Great / Best GFE experience so far in my life and overall great time beyond the good old bang bang. Had a good lunch / massage in Mt. Pinetobu Spa after hike.

Edward M
08-28-11, 19:17
I asked them that 3rd day, we will go to Mt. Pinetobu for a hike. They were surprised by request but agreed. 3rd day morning, we got up at 6 AM and went out to Mt. Pinetobu. Boy o Boy, how these girls stayed awake (myth – body rhythm to sleep during the morning) and hiked to the crater (6 KM up and down). Great / Best GFE experience so far in my life and overall great time beyond the good old bang bang. Had a good lunch / massage in Mt. Pinetobu Spa after hike.I have always wanted to go to Pinatubo but thought that this time of year (rainy season) was a no-go. Can you provide any info as to how you arranged this and what the costs were?

Charlie Horse
08-28-11, 20:20
Overall, these girls especially Monica is great. Great for GFEGreat reports. They look so much better without the white stuff on their face in the first pic.

Nomadic Mong
08-29-11, 12:09
I have always wanted to go to Pinatubo but thought that this time of year (rainy season) was a no-go. Can you provide any info as to how you arranged this and what the costs were?I paid 7000 peso for a private tour (considering the company ). It includes pickup and drop off to hotel, travel to and from Pinatubo spa town. 4 wheel drive, guides, lunch on return. I feel if you contact the Pinatubo spa town or go directly, it may cost at least 1K peso or more less.

But, it is certainly worth it.

Nomadic Mong
08-29-11, 12:10
Great reports. They look so much better without the white stuff on their face in the first pic.Agree 100% and told them multiple times. However they feel naked without that out layer. As much as music in their body, makeup need to be there on their skin

Nomadic Mong
08-29-11, 12:25
Having been to both Pattaya and AC within a span of 3 weeks and visited Cambodia / Vietnam, I felt, it is good time to compare experience IMHO. I am comparing AC vrs Pattaya rather than Thai vrs Pattaya considering sense of advancement in Bangkok and Makati.

AC.

1. GFE.

2. Shy.

3. Young physically / age wise

4. Young mentally

5. Within the traditional sex acts.

6. Lesbo is not common.

7. Public Lesbo acts are rare.

8. Higher % of family free / child free girls.

Pattaya.

1. You may feel like routine / production line experience.

2. Generally Wild.

3. Avg 25 years of age with some extra pound.

4. Very much used / shaped / grown due to high traffic.

5. Generally, they have Experience beyond traditional action.

6. Lesbo is very common and that too in public

7. Exhibitionist

8. Even at young age with kids / family dead weight baggage.

Once again it is IMHO with very less experience in AC. Let's see how these shape up in years to come.

KyCuriosity
08-29-11, 14:33
http://www.angelescity.com/index.php?newsID=852

Did anyone else see this? Or was it posted here and I overlooked it? It's pretty sad. I guess it just shows that most levels of government over there are corrupt.

I just recently found that website and find it sorta interesting. At least I can get recent news reports about AC, without relying on others to post here.

Sammon
08-29-11, 15:16
I paid 7000 peso for a private tour (considering the company ). It includes pickup and drop off to hotel, travel to and from Pinatubo spa town. 4 wheel drive, guides, lunch on return. I feel if you contact the Pinatubo spa town or go directly, it may cost at least 1K peso or more less.

But, it is certainly worth it.Is it per person?

Ekspat
08-30-11, 09:25
Spent a week recently in AC and couldn't see any difference to earlier trips. Not many cops, no raids. Everything seemed to be pretty much as always.

But another thing about Clark Airport. I had a trip in July out of Clark, with me two lighters and an umbrella in handcarry. They told me to take out the umbrella, not allowed in handcarry. No problem, I threw it away. Going out in August, again I had an umbrella and a couple of lighters. This time the lighters weren't allowed, need to throw them away, but not a single word about the umbrella.

Too funny, these "security" officers.

Enjoy AC!

Betong
08-30-11, 15:19
They told me to take out the umbrella, not allowed in handcarry.Yes, well I think we can all understand what a huge security risk an umbrella aboard a plane would be!

I love Clark, partly just in comparison to the mess that is Manila Airport, partly because of flying in low right over Perimeter Road, a perfect start to a stay in AC.

ManonsanBoy
08-30-11, 15:21
Spent a week recently in AC and couldn't see any difference to earlier trips. Not many cops, no raids. Everything seemed to be pretty much as always.

But another thing about Clark Airport. I had a trip in July out of Clark, with me two lighters and an umbrella in handcarry. They told me to take out the umbrella, not allowed in handcarry. No problem, I threw it away. Going out in August, again I had an umbrella and a couple of lighters. This time the lighters weren't allowed, need to throw them away, but not a single word about the umbrella.

Too funny, these "security" officers.

Enjoy AC!The Philippines is a total joke; they really should have a revolution.

FurryFriend
08-30-11, 18:29
The Philippines is a total joke; they really should have a revolution.Be careful for what you wish for.

I too often feel contempt for the Philippines and how fucked up their country is. But if it wasn't that way, there wouldn't be such a unique opportunity to monger there.

Aside from Thailand and Philippines, a vast majority of Asian mongering (especially the best types) are only open to locals or other Asians. As an Asian guy, I assure you I have access to mongering in Hong Kong, China and Macau that white guys can only dream of. If you're a white guy, I'm sure you wouldn't want such a similar arrangement for the Philippines.

Streetlooker
08-30-11, 19:34
Be careful for what you wish for.

I too often feel contempt for the Philippines and how fucked up their country is. But if it wasn't that way, there wouldn't be such a unique opportunity to monger there.

Aside from Thailand and Philippines, a vast majority of Asian mongering (especially the best types) are only open to locals or other Asians. As an Asian guy, I assure you I have access to mongering in Hong Kong, China and Macau that white guys can only dream of. If you're a white guy, I'm sure you wouldn't want such a similar arrangement for the Philippines.If the Koreans keep buying up property in that town they will soon take over it and kick us white folk out. All bars are catering to there likes and taste with those big bars all over fields with there tier pricing and high prices

Sxxxx
08-30-11, 20:02
The Philippines is a total joke; they really should have a revolution.Thats why people like you and me can go there and get what we want.

If they got organised, gave jobs to locals, the scene we know today would largely disappear.

I thought you would have understood that."Elementary dear Watson, elementary"

Robbaf
08-30-11, 22:15
Spent a week recently in AC and couldn't see any difference to earlier trips. Not many cops, no raids. Everything seemed to be pretty much as always.

But another thing about Clark Airport. I had a trip in July out of Clark, with me two lighters and an umbrella in handcarry. They told me to take out the umbrella, not allowed in handcarry. No problem, I threw it away. Going out in August, again I had an umbrella and a couple of lighters. This time the lighters weren't allowed, need to throw them away, but not a single word about the umbrella.

Too funny, these "security" officers.

Enjoy AC!A couple of years ago I was flying Clark to Cebu. I got to the airport two hours early and waited at check-in for two hours,"Sorry, computer down and we are waiting on a person to come from Manila to do our check-in manual".

Finally checked in and going through security they caught my lighter."Sorry sir no lighters". I called BS because I knew the rules had changed and you can carry a lighter on board. After 5 minutes the security guard told me "I will let you carry it this one time".

Plane was four and half hours delayed and we are still waiting. Airport is closing and there is not a smoking area. I asked to go outside and was told "Sorry sir, Immigration has already left, so you cannot leave the airport!". I reminded the security guard that we are going to Cebu and not international and he could not understand that. He called his supervisor (Female. 5'0".250 lbs) over and she took me to her office and threaten to kick me off the plane. Long story short, they let me go out and smoke and when I came back in the security whisperer to me,"Sir you can keep your lighter". Hahaha.

Robb

ManonsanBoy
08-31-11, 12:37
If the Koreans keep buying up property in that town they will soon take over it and kick us white folk out. All bars are catering to there likes and taste with those big bars all over fields with there tier pricing and high pricesYou play, you pay. Sex is a commodity there and guess what, they prefer to sell to highest bidder unless they are angling for you to take them to USA!

X Man
08-31-11, 14:39
Yea, yea, and twenty years ago it was the Japanese taking over. BTW, how's the weather in Alabama? Hope you white folk are doing well. X.


If the Koreans keep buying up property in that town they will soon take over it and kick us white folk out. All bars are catering to there likes and taste with those big bars all over fields with there tier pricing and high prices

Amjeck
08-31-11, 17:44
Aside from Thailand and Philippines, a vast majority of Asian mongering (especially the best types) are only open to locals or other Asians. As an Asian guy, I assure you I have access to mongering in Hong Kong, China and Macau that white guys can only dream of. If you're a white guy, I'm sure you wouldn't want such a similar arrangement for the Philippines.It's weird how having a big cock is a handicap in Asia, yet the opposite is true in the West. Strange world we live in!

FurryFriend
08-31-11, 19:53
It's weird how having a big cock is a handicap in Asia, yet the opposite is true in the West. Strange world we live in!There is nothing strange or surprising about women preferring people of their own kind.

Asian women in America can date or marry an infinite number of white guys. But open up the wedding announcement section of any newspaper and you'd see a vast majority of them still marry Asian guys.

It's not surprising, then, that Asian providers prefer Asian punters. It is extreme poverty that exists in the Philippines that makes them desperate to branch out. The fact remains, if wealth is equal, a Pinay will farrrrrr prefer a Pinoy.

Sxxxx
08-31-11, 20:29
.The fact remains, if wealth is equal, a Pinay will farrrrrr prefer a Pinoy.In the main, I agree totally, there will always be exceptions like Western women marrying Asians for example. Usually money is the motivator regardless of ethnic background. The rich filipinos keep their mushrooms well, in the dark, both for their exploitation, and ours, LOL. Now all you handsome guys who boast about this that, game over, LOL.

Nomadic Mong
09-01-11, 00:12
Is it per person?No. 7000 peso is for the private tour with 4 people.

Jbiz979
09-01-11, 00:20
I don't think any of you gentlemen have anything to worry about when it comes to the Koreans or any other ethnic group investing in the Philippines. There will always be a small rich class and and a majority poor class in this country and it has nothing to do with well off Asians. It has to do with corrupt Filipinos, more specifically corrupt Filipino government business and public officials. Prices on goods and services always fluctuate including our beloved pinays. The American dollar is losing its value constantly which affects the world economy (prices) and the same with many European currencies. China is even being affected by this world economic slow down. Point being I don't have a dooms day out look on the situation in the Philippines nor the United States. The Philippines will always have affordable goods for you happy mongers and their poor natives. And the United States will be well off again, because the world depends on it. Who else will buy an outrageous amount of Asian manufactured products?

Jbiz979
09-01-11, 00:38
There is nothing strange or surprising about women preferring people of their own kind.

Asian women in America can date or marry an infinite number of white guys. But open up the wedding announcement section of any newspaper and you'd see a vast majority of them still marry Asian guys.

It's not surprising, then, that Asian providers prefer Asian punters. It is extreme poverty that exists in the Philippines that makes them desperate to branch out. The fact remains, if wealth is equal, a Pinay will farrrrrr prefer a Pinoy.Different strokes for different folks. Asian women are not monolithic in their taste in men. I would agree that their are cultural norms or taboos in many societies about branching out when it comes to dating. But to think that Asian women don't find Brad Pitt or numerous other model type white guys attractive is being unrealistic. As far as Pinay's are concerned certainly I agree that poverty plays a huge role but not the only, could it be that some Pinoys are just not the greatest guys in the world? Their are lots of single mothers in the phils and those babies are not from mongers (not most).2nd point the Philippines unlike any other Asian countries are fascinated by American pop culture. From rap music, rock, tmz you name it. Their dyeing their hair blond and getting blue contacts, skin whitening you name it. Other Asians are getting plastic surgery to put folds in their eyes, boobs jobs etc. Women prefer men they feel secure with and in most cases can support them, that crosses all ethic and cultural lines.

FurryFriend
09-01-11, 03:51
I don't think any of you gentlemen have anything to worry about when it comes to the Koreans or any other ethnic group investing in the Philippines.

I completely concur. This is a fact. None of you will live long enough to see the Philippines become an economically developed country. I highly doubt it would even reach Thailand's standard of the living in the next 20 years (the Philippines would need to triple its GDP for that).

Despite China growing 10% annually for the last decades (which is considered a neck-breaking pace) , a vast majority of its people are still marred in poverty.

Granted, mongering choices may start to narrow as the Philippines develops (assuming that it does). But there will still be plenty of desperate girls willing to fuck guys. Hell, Hong Kong is fabulously wealthy and it still has tons of mongering activities for Westerners.


But to think that Asian women don't find Brad Pitt or numerous other model type white guys attractive is being unrealistic.

You've confused physical interest with love. I find Megan Fox to be beautiful, but it doesn't mean I'm in love with her or have a marital preference for someone like her.


Their dyeing their hair blond and getting blue contacts, skin whitening you name it. Other Asians are getting plastic surgery to put folds in their eyes, boobs jobs etc.

Are you implying Asian girls who do these things prefer white guys? If white girls are working on their tans at the beach, does it mean they prefer black guys?

Besides, none of those characteristics you've mentioned (having blue contacts, boob jobs, etc) are exclusive to attracting white guys.


Women prefer men they feel secure with and in most cases can support them, that crosses all ethic and cultural lines.

No one doubts financial security plays a big role in who a women chooses. But few would also doubt that, if wealth was equal, most women would prefer someone of their own ethnicity. The proof? 80% of Asians in America marry each other despite the dizzying racial choices they have in a spouse. Asians there are only 5% of the population, which means Asians will have so specifically seek each other out.

Here's the absolute truth. Asia as a whole is becoming increasingly Asian-centric, even nationalistic. Before the 1980s, it's quite common for GIs and corporate types to serve in Asia and return with an Asian bride.

How often does this happen these days? How many matchmaking services are organizing meet-and-greet tours to Tokyo, Seoul or Hong Kong? It's mostly just Philippines and, to a far lesser extent, Thailand and Vietnam. And in all these countries, I can argue that it's poverty that pushes women to seek non-Asian men.

Economically developed places like Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore aren't exactly hotspots for white guys to hook up with a native. The last time I checked on DIA, there was an extremely small number of profiles from those places.

You're right in saying that Filipinos have an affinity for American culture because of its unique history. But go to other parts of Asia and, while they might be friendly to Americans, they would feel Asian culture is superior.

Bundanko
09-01-11, 04:26
The Philippines is a total joke; they really should have a revolution.It is not a joke. If you go to any international airport for flight departing for international destination you will be subject to more serious checking. However, for those having doubts on what cannot be brought in by hand carry bag and check in luggage the notice at the airport check in area is loud and clear at Clark and is written in "English".

Nixonbd
09-01-11, 14:20
It is not a joke. If you go to any international airport for flight departing for international destination you will be subject to more serious checking. However, for those having doubts on what cannot be brought in by hand carry bag and check in luggage the notice at the airport check in area is loud and clear at Clark and is written in "English".Most Latin America countries won't let you take any liquids on the plane at the loading gate, even water / soda bought inside the terminal. Don't take anything you don't mind giving up, its not worth the hassle of arguing in a "host" country!

Dwight Fry
09-01-11, 15:28
Furry, are you a sociologist or a cultural anthropologist or international economist that has objectively studied and published in these areas? You make some good observations but that is all they are. I don't want to turn this into a pissing contest but let's stick to the subject matter: our travel experience related to sex, shall we?Sighting his entire post for such a ridiculous comment is a waste of bandwidth and you should know better. I find FurryFriend's comments interesting and coming from an Asian perspective, it has value. On the other hand, I find many of your posts irritating IMHO.

FurryFriend
09-01-11, 19:23
Furry, are you a sociologist or a cultural anthropologist or international economist that has objectively studied and published in these areas? You make some good observations but that is all they are. I don't want to turn this into a pissing contest but let's stick to the subject matter: our travel experience related to sex, shall we?I'm sorry, I must have overlooked forum rules stating that one needs to be a published subject expert to voice an opinion here.

My comments related to sexual preferences of Filipinas and the fate of mongering in the Philippines and are entirely on-topic. I'll defer to other members to judge for themselves. Meanwhile, I grant you permission to skip over my posts if you find them irrelevant.

Mr Enternational
09-01-11, 23:43
Most Latin America countries won't let you take any liquids on the plane at the loading gate, even water / soda bought inside the terminal. Don't take anything you don't mind giving up, its not worth the hassle of arguing in a "host" country!That is on international flights only. On domestic flights throughout Latin American countries it is business as before 9/11/2001.

Fast Buck Artist
09-02-11, 02:24
It's not surprising, then, that Asian providers prefer Asian punters. It is extreme poverty that exists in the Philippines that makes them desperate to branch out. The fact remains, if wealth is equal, a Pinay will farrrrrr prefer a Pinoy.Wealthy pinoys, or even middle class, are very few. Most of the available ones are working overseas. The local wealthy aristocracy marry among themselves. There are not many options for a filipina who wants a guy of her age with a well paying job.

Everything else being equal, yea they would prefer a pinoy guy. Taking a step back and talking about women in general, women tend to pick a husband who reminds them of their dad (I don't mean in age or appearance!)

Amjeck
09-02-11, 06:28
It's not surprising, then, that Asian providers prefer Asian punters. It is extreme poverty that exists in the Philippines that makes them desperate to branch out. The fact remains, if wealth is equal, a Pinay will farrrrrr prefer a Pinoy.In SE Asia p4p scene, I've found that most of the reason why asians girls prefer asian guys is do to dick size. There is a belief among all SE asian working girls that white guys have big dicks and a lot of them are scared it will hurt them. From the low end brothels in Laos and Cambodia to the huge massage parlors in BKK and Manila, I've found this to be true. This has nothing to do with selection based upon that they want an asian guy over a white guy because he is similar in looks. P4P girls are all about money, so if they can chose a smaller cocked client who is less demanding than that is no surprise at all.

I agree with the latter statement that Pinay would prefer a Pinoy. Just like in any SE Asian country, the girls would rather go with their own kind.

FreebieFan
09-02-11, 08:35
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1192930I agree with the latter statement that Pinay would prefer a Pinoy. Just like in any SE Asian country, the girls would rather go with their own kind.[/QUOTE]You have to recognise that the girls tend to be sheep like.

If one girl finds a good and decent Pinoy (and ocassionally there are such guys) then "everyone wants one " syndrome kicks in.

Same with a girl that has a good experience with a Westerner, then all the sisters also want one.

But we also know too many girls (yeah sure, the all grabbing all knowing Church provides a magnificent moral compass NOT) who fall for sweet words from an unemployed Pinoy gets pregnant and the guy runs far and fast.

Thats when the girl realises that the type of pinoy she attracts is less than useless, the churches preaching about "more babies = more happiness " didn't quite apply to her and please please let me find a white guy to rescue me. The generalisation of locals wanting to stick with locals is applicable to a greater or lesser extent depending on the country.

Member #4152
09-02-11, 10:34
In SE Asia p4p scene, I've found that most of the reason why asians girls prefer asian guys is do to dick size. There is a belief among all SE asian working girls that white guys have big dicks and a lot of them are scared it will hurt them. From the low end brothels in Laos and Cambodia to the huge massage parlors in BKK and Manila, I've found this to be true. This has nothing to do with selection based upon that they want an asian guy over a white guy because he is similar in looks. P4P girls are all about money, so if they can chose a smaller cocked client who is less demanding than that is no surprise at all.

I agree with the latter statement that Pinay would prefer a Pinoy. Just like in any SE Asian country, the girls would rather go with their own kind.Completely wrong man! The girls just tell you this crap to make you feel better. Shit, they'll the fattest, ugliest dude in the world he's most handsome, biggest dick, best love making machine they've ever been with all for a good pay day! It's all about the $$$ and they just assume anyone white has $$$ and are more willing to spend that $$$ plus leave better tips!

You can't think every white guy has a big dick do you? You can't think every asian guy has a small dick or every italian guy has a short fat one. It usually goes off of the your body type. If you're short like 4'11 or 5'1, I don't care what race you are, you're going to have a small penis! If you're 6'3 like a lot of black men, you're going to have a bigger penis then most people shorter then you. Make sense?

So believe whatever these girls feed you but in the end, it's always about the $$$. I believe most asian men from Asia are known for being really cheap, which is a good thing am I right? A lot of westerners tend to tip or pay more then the usual thus ruining it for other mongers and lowering the expectations of the girls work.

Frenzy3
09-02-11, 11:04
All girls I know want a good size dick. There is even a ideal penis size chart some where google it.

Frenzy3
09-02-11, 11:06
http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/the-authentic-womens-penis-size-preference-chart

Member #4152
09-02-11, 11:41
Shoot, most girls don't even need a penis to get them off. For them, it's more about touch and feeling and being the the right mood. You just got to know where and when to touch and bingo! It's sorta like a secert game code for a old Nintendo game! Up, down, up, down, left, right, right, x, x, o, o, square, down, down, down. LOL

HenryV
09-02-11, 16:54
After almost 20 years in se asia no question, all things being equal, no questions they would rather stick to their own kind. You do not see many (if any) well to do Pinoy women with western guys. Not happening.


Completely wrong man! The girls just tell you this crap to make you feel better. Shit, they'll the fattest, ugliest dude in the world he's most handsome, biggest dick, best love making machine they've ever been with all for a good pay day! It's all about the $$$ and they just assume anyone white has $$$ and are more willing to spend that $$$ plus leave better tips!

You can't think every white guy has a big dick do you? You can't think every asian guy has a small dick or every italian guy has a short fat one. It usually goes off of the your body type. If you're short like 4'11 or 5'1, I don't care what race you are, you're going to have a small penis! If you're 6'3 like a lot of black men, you're going to have a bigger penis then most people shorter then you. Make sense?

So believe whatever these girls feed you but in the end, it's always about the $$$. I believe most asian men from Asia are known for being really cheap, which is a good thing am I right? A lot of westerners tend to tip or pay more then the usual thus ruining it for other mongers and lowering the expectations of the girls work.

FurryFriend
09-02-11, 19:34
Completely wrong man! The girls just tell you this crap to make you feel better.The "I can't service you because you have a big dick" is the oldest and dumbest excuse in the book. I don't believe people on this forum, who are supposed to be highly experienced with mongering, would buy it.

Most WGs don't want to offend. They're not going to say "sorry, no black or white guys". So they'll say something that can also be construed as flattering.

As you've said, dick size is highly corolated with height. I've never heard a tall monger say "girls are turning me down left and right because she thinks I have a big dick". If the ethnicity of the monger is held constant, a tall monger and a short monger will not detect a difference in whether a WG wants to serve them.


I believe most asian men from Asia are known for being really cheap, which is a good thing am I right?No way. Most WGs will tell you that Koreans and Japanese drop the most cash. You have a point if you're referring to Indians or Southeast Asians.


After almost 20 years in se asia no question, all things being equal, no questions they would rather stick to their own kind. You do not see many (if any) well to do Pinoy women with western guys. Not happening.

As an Asian-American, I should add though personal observation that there's a period where Asian women are more open to dating interracially. Go to most American univerisities and you'd see many Asian women with Jewish guys. The same with young Japanese or Singaporean girls having a fetish for experimenting with white expats.

But to say they have a "preference" for white guys probably isn't true. It's more like, they're more "open" to it. Big difference.

Once Asian girls enter their mid 20s and it's time to get serious, a vast majority will wind up with an Asian guy (if wealth wasn't a major factor). A lot of white guys will probably score cute young Japanese chicks in Tokyo. But almost none of those will turn into marriage.

Phantomtiger2
09-03-11, 01:59
here are the latest rumours to hit ac.

read it and weep (as i am) :

expected to take place on jan 1, 2012.

to counter the suppose **** and morality issue, (maybe the ngo are behind this) the new minimum age will be 21 and this will be strictly enforced with strict documentations (whatever that means).

the new bar license fee will increase to over 300, 000p. forcing many bars to close their doors for good. those that remain will be forced to have huge increases in prices for drinks and bf to cover operating cost to remain open.

all girls will have strict dress codes, meaning no bikinis, minishirts, hotpants etc that shows too much flesh.

no more than than a maximum of 25 dancers / waitresses or combination of the 2 for each bar regardless of the bar size. can't imagine having just 25 to choose from in a megabar like dollhouse.

the government also thinking of converting dmia into a new intl airport hub of the pi. this will mean wiping out the bars around the airport area= fields and perimeter, to keep up a good image of surrounding areas near clark.

right now these are just "rumours" so keep your fingers crossed.

i will forward more info as i get them.

Mr Enternational
09-03-11, 04:05
Once Asian girls enter their mid 20s and it's time to get serious, a vast majority will wind up with an Asian guy (if wealth wasn't a major factor). A lot of white guys will probably score cute young Japanese chicks in Tokyo. But almost none of those will turn into marriage.Looking at Facebook pages of the Asian /(Americans) and Latinas who I went to high school with tells me much more about them and their preferences than 5 years in the classroom with them ever did.

Sky Ryder
09-03-11, 04:31
I'm sorry, I must have overlooked forum rules stating that one needs to be a published subject expert to voice an opinion here.

Meanwhile, I grant you permission to skip over my posts if you find them irrelevant.I must admit, I really enjoyed this post. It is the perfect response to what otherwise could have been another tiresome flame war. I also agree with the underlying principal, if it doesn't "fit" then just move on!

Pinga 98
09-03-11, 05:38
Lady air force paratrooper shot dead in Angeles City


August 22, 2011. By DING CERVANTES.

ANGELES CITY – A female trooper of the Philippine Air Force based at Clark Freeport was shot dead yesterday dawn in front of a beer garden along McArthur Highway in Barangay Balibago here amid reports that one of the suspects belonged to the local police force.

Police identified the victim as Airman First Class Mary Jane Tagbe of the First Air Division of the PAF, who died from a single bullet wound in her forehead.

A police report said the victim and three other companions were inside the Lovely Girl Videoke Bar and Restaurant when she figured in a heated argument with a group of persons led by a certain Renz occupying on opposite table.

The two groups agreed to settle their differences outside the bar where the shooting occurred. They paid their bills before going out.

Leah Sotto Abana. 34, manager of the bar, told authorities, she heard gun shots soon after the two groups went out and she immediately closed her bar.

The suspects, police said fled on board a black motorcycle heading to Angeles City downtown. Policemen failed to catch up with them.

Sources who asked not to be named said at least one of the suspects belonged to the local police force.

Airman 1st Class Clifford Rey Olap, of the 1st Air Division, said the victim was rushed to Air Force City Hospital but she died moments later while undergoing surgery.

Scene of the Crime Operatives (SOCO) found three spent casings for caliber. 45 pistol at the place of the incident.http://punto.com.ph/data/pdf/vol5no49.pdf

Sxxxx
09-03-11, 19:59
Wadman,

Everyone knows that the bar scene in Angeles City is a meat market. The meat is labeled and numbered then paraded before mongers in the most delightfully degrading manner. Mongers then choose which piece of meat they want to fuck based on physical characteristics such as big boobs, flat belly, tight small ass, sexy legs, etc. Then the seasoned mongers call the meat over before buying a lady drink and drill them with questions like, 'Do you suck cock? Do you swallow? Can I fuck you in the ass? Do you have menstruation? How many times can I fuck you? Do you lick pussy? Can I take pictures? ' Mongers don't write reports and post pictures based on intellectual conversations with fuck meat. Reports read more like the steak connoisseur's review of the taste and texture of a selection of meats complete with pricing and sourcing information. Of course, some mongers have difficulty reconciling the reality that they're patrons of a meat market with their Western, and most often American, values so they vilify other mongers in an attempt to assuage their feelings of guilt. However, they will continue to eat meat. Don't give too much thought to their comments. They're the equivalent of American women who will argue that killing animals is wrong under any circumstance between ravenous bites into their meal of a Big Mac, fries and Diet Coke.I wouldn't miss reading Chocha's posts, they are forthright, objective, frank, no bullshit, and entertaining. Chocha for President of ISG Philippines sector.

Phantomtiger2
09-03-11, 21:43
BREAKING NEWS!

3rd September 2011.

The manager of the Cambodia / Golden Nile bars, David and his wife Shirley were "executed" this morning@3. 00am in their home.

The assassination of David and Shirley was believed to be related to unresovled issues linked to the raids on the above mentioned bars by the DOJ earlier this year.

Nvslim
09-04-11, 11:02
I wouldn't miss reading Chocha's posts, they are forthright, objective, frank, no bullshit, and entertaining. Chocha for President of ISG Philippines sector.I agree his posts are worth reading but not quoting in full. A little snipping is appreciated. ;)

Slim

Sxxxx
09-04-11, 11:11
I agree his posts are worth reading but not quoting in full. A little snipping is appreciated. .

SlimVery much worth quoting the whole thing. Especially when it was posted while back and lots coming to Forum right now would not know why I thought his stuff was good without giving at least one sample of his work. If you check my previous quotes from posters you will see I usually do snip, but made an exception in the case of Chocha Monger. Has to be read in full to be appreciated. I hope, on this occasion, the Snip Police, of which there seems to be more than one, will forgive me, LOL.

Slippery
09-05-11, 03:23
Three homicides in AC in one night. I'm surprised nobody has remarked on the double homicide. The 3rd was apparently Filipino on Filipino but right outside of a bar with a. 45. Victim was female and military. Shooter is supposed to be an off duty cop.

Elnoidelmoli
09-05-11, 09:21
three homicides in ac in one night. I'm surprised nobody has remarked on the double homicide. The 3rd was apparently filipino on filipino but right outside of a bar with a. 45. Victim was female and military. Shooter is supposed to be an off duty cop.because this is "the international sex guine" and not "the international crime guide"

Nvslim
09-05-11, 10:59
I hope, on this occasion, the Snip Police, of which there seems to be more than one, will forgive me, LOL.You are. Your reports are always interesting and informative. Thanks.

Slim

Tiger 888
09-05-11, 13:08
because this is "the international sex guine" and not "the international crime guide"That is a very stupid answer, as the risk of our mongerers' lives relates pretty much to mongering information.
Angeles is a place way too rough for my taste.

Dwight Fry
09-05-11, 14:17
I wouldn't miss reading Chocha's posts, they are forthright, objective, frank, no bullshit, and entertaining. Chocha for President of ISG Philippines sector.A bit of a stretch I must say since he rarely visits RP if at all. Many of his ramblings can be applied to P4P anywhere.

Elnoidelmoli
09-05-11, 21:47
That is a very stupid answer, as the risk of our mongerers' lives relates pretty much to mongering information.

Angeles is a place way too rough for my taste.There are not stupid answers. There are people who can not read.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure of the Universe. (Albert Einstein)

RoadGlide
09-05-11, 22:39
Three homicides in AC in one night. I'm surprised nobody has remarked on the double homicide. The 3rd was apparently Filipino on Filipino but right outside of a bar with a. 45. Victim was female and military. Shooter is supposed to be an off duty cop.The off duty air force girl I'm not too worried about, she most likely stuck her nose, someplace it did not belong, no big loss. The double murder of the bar owner and his wife, sends a big time signal. A / C can be a place with big time risks.

MauiDude
09-06-11, 00:47
The off duty air force girl I'm not too worried about, she most likely stuck her nose, someplace it did not belong, no big loss. The double murder of the bar owner and his wife, sends a big time signal. A / C can be a place with big time risks.All violence is a concern to me as I am a lover not a fighter. I have pesonaility so I can meet the girls.

I do want to avoid areas of violence and danger. I just want to go where there is sweet girls that want to have fun and play.

I read the paper today in oakland california, three people shot on Saturday / one died.

Makes for 80 homicides for the year/

So I think anywhere we go there is danger. The off duty air force girl was in an argument with an off duty police officer?

That is the story.

So that tells me don't argue with people and remember you are a foreigner in a different country.

To me its important to pay attention to your security and the security of where you live and sleep.

Also remember you can get killed over just one bad word or arguement with a local.

I was with a friend and he asked a trike driver how much it would be to go to a certain location.

The trike driver told him 200 pesos which is over the normal of 100 pesos.

My friend did not bargain but told him to get lost (or something a little rude?)

The trike driver came after him and wanted to fight. Trike driver threatened to kill him several times.

So did someone that got killed have an arguement or disagreement with someone and the person decided to end a life because of an insult?

Paper said it did not appear that robbery was a motive in the kilings in angeles?

Was it an insult or just something stupid? Or did someone owe money?

Lot of possibilities

Slippery
09-06-11, 01:35
The off duty air force girl I'm not too worried about, she most likely stuck her nose, someplace it did not belong, no big loss. The double murder of the bar owner and his wife, sends a big time signal. A / C can be a place with big time risks.If some Filipino put a. 45 through your head, I doubt whether it would be very much of a loss either. This woman probably had parents, brothers, sisters or both, nieces and nephews, cousins and aunts and uncles. No, not much of a loss at all. You get my nomination for the 2011 stupidity award.

Wal50
09-06-11, 04:26
Re the shooting. David Balmer was RA's long standing friend, as they joined the RUC together many years back. He lived in R's house for many years, and worked for him in several roles in the BNG and Bars. It was his P20m input that put R into the ASCC, from which he never received his entitlement. David Balmer had a court case over Rey Pineda at the club over the money. The wrong guy to take on in A. C. As he is an "enforcer" for Congressman Lazatan, the ex mayor. Both gain from his death. Not that anything will ever be done about it. They are too powerful and have too many contacts.

Jambo
09-06-11, 13:15
Re the shooting.I appreciate the opinion, but it is a few too many abbreviations. I figured out RA was "Richard Agnew" and RUC is "Royal Ulster Constabulary", but thats from reading other forums. The streaming nature of this forum means a particular subject will get broken up by comments on other subjects.

Undercoverh
09-07-11, 03:57
Just got back from AC and I had the best time on BJ A. Santos St. For 700 and 2 hours, the girls get down to business with nice long BBBJ and FS. I went to the clubs and checked out the girls dancing, but shot my load by taking one or two of the girls from Santos St. For 700, I took two for 1, 400--for less than the price of one go-go bar girl. I had a great time having two LBFM give me BBBJ at the same time, I felt like I was in a porn movie. Then, I banged them both, had to change condoms for each, but that was understanable.

Had a good time in AC, but I will not be back for some time to come. Besides the killings and general change of AC (e.g., I liked the old AC from 10 or 15 years ago), I had more fun on this trip with my new girlfriends compared to the hookers.

One is in Manila (18) and the other is in Cebu (19). Being with non pros reallys makes me enjoy the GFE and the sex with no condom is by far better than banging hookers and wearing condoms. I know, I should wear a condom all the time, but with a 18 and 19 girls who have not had a lot experience and young tight p_ssy, I could control myself. I wouldl never do this with hookers. Thus, I think I am going to go for the GFE with a real girlfriend. The downside is, you have to spend lots of time with them on skype and emails and of course they are looking for marriage with you.

With both girls, I chatted with them for about 4 months online and we (or they) are in love with me. As my good buddy once said,"liking leads to loving and loving leads to f_ucking." Based on the wonderful time I had with my two girlfriends, (of course, not at the same time) , on my next trip to PI, I will avoid the pay-4-play hookers and I will spend my time with my girlfriends. I find it is way cheaper and much more fun to be with and get laid by your regular sweet young filipina GF.

Man, I am not the type of guy known for eating p_ussy, but when I felt how tight my 18 yo girlfriend was, I had to eat her, and it was wonderful. Her BBBJ skills were poor (becasue of little to no experience with doing it) but I give her an "A" for effort. It was a loving attempt by a GF to please her man with a BJ, that was such a cute moment, I will never forget it. I guess after having 100s of hookers, I have forgotton the pure joy of having real loving girlfriend sex. It really made me feel like I was in my teens or 20s again.

I am not suggesting guys give up hookers and seek a GF, I am just sharing my experience. As for the changes in AC, do not worry, this is the Philippines. There will always be places in PI where p_ssy will be for sale. If it is not as fun in AC as it once was, there are lots of other places in the Philippines (or Asia) where a guy can have lots of sex with tons of Asian girls. AC is there to stay, they make too much money from the selling sex to let it totally go away. There will be changes, but the game of selling sex in AC is a way of life.

Everyone makes money from the sex trade there, from the government (taxes) to the 7-11 store. They know guys from Japan, USA, Korea, Hong Kong, etc., will not go to AC if there were no bars and sex there. The government has to strike a balance between allowing the sex trade and not letting it get out of hand. One of the post wrote about increasing the age in AC to 21, this is fine with me. That just leaves more girls between 18 and 20 in the province for me. : - )

WestCoast1
09-07-11, 04:56
Just got back from AC and I had the best time on BJ A. Santos St. For 700 and 2 hours, the girls get down to business with nice long BBBJ and FS. I went to the clubs and checked out the girls dancing, but shot my load by taking one or two of the girls from Santos St. For 700, I took two for 1, 400--for less than the price of one go-go bar girl. I had a great time having two LBFM give me BBBJ at the same time, I felt like I was in a porn movie. Then, I banged them both, had to change condoms for each, but that was understanable.Someone mention blowrow twinpacks? By golly, I WAS in a porn movie!

Undercoverh
09-07-11, 05:07
Someone mention blowrow twinpacks? By golly, I WAS in a porn movie!Yap, glad to read another guy had the same fun I had! Blowrow does not get enough credit for the fun that can be had there. On a side note, I was reading that each year in the Philippines, 875, 000 girls turn 18. Wow! Yap, that is 875,000! The problem is, not enough jobs for them and they are turning out babies. Thus, the Philippiines has an out of control population growth rate. In 17 years, the population went from 76 million to 93 million. When I read this, I thought, hell, this is good news! More girls of the legal sex age each year, I fail to see the problem here. : - )

Tally Wacker
09-07-11, 05:33
Yap, glad to read another guy had the same fun I had! Blowrow does not get enough credit for the fun that can be had there. On a side note, I was reading that each year in the Philippines, 875, 000 girls turn 18. Wow! Yap, that is 875,000! The problem is, not enough jobs for them and they are turning out babies. Thus, the Philippiines has an out of control population growth rate. In 17 years, the population went from 76 million to 93 million. When I read this, I thought, hell, this is good news! More girls of the legal sex age each year, I fail to see the problem here. : - )Nice report of blow row! Makes me want to return soon. I had the best threesome there as well in the back room at the bar. One girl took her first shot in the mouth and started choking while the other girl and I laughed. The girl who took the cum shot was bragging to the mama in tagalog after that she took her first cum shot and how she choked on it and it got all over her face. The other girls sitting there were all listening and looking over at me giggiling. Kind of a turn on having 6 young filipinas have a conversation about sucking your dick.

Are the blow row girls available to take out of the bar like other places?

Chocha Monger
09-07-11, 06:47
Recently, as I perambulated along Fields Avenue on a rainy evening fending off hucksters of umbrellas, Viagra and flowers, a saucy little tart called to me. 'Poo-say sah! You want poo-say? ' she yelled with an impish smile from the doorway of her bar. I needed no further persuasion. As quick as a fart I went through the door. On stage there was a herd of sexy twiggy Samar beauties. They cheered and high-fived me as the plump mama ushered me to a seat with a hawk's eye view of the buffet of tender flesh on display. The waitress brought me a drink as I inspected the meat with the studious concentration of an FDA inspector. The mama was pressuring me to make a selection of choice meats but I chided her as I had not yet completed my grading. Finally, to mama's relief I picked out two lively tarts to join me at the table. This seemed to send the rest of the herd into frenzy and they gyrated and squealed in an even more orgiastic display of bacchanalia.

It was then that an enormous gut parted the curtains in the doorway followed by a large toad of a man. He moved with the stiffness and determination of an Irishman's prick on Saint Patrick's Day. His dimpled knees were blue with a shade of crimson and it hurt just to look at them. He halted momentarily, expired mightily like a huge cetacean, and dabbed at the lard on his forehead with a towel before continuing his advance. His hairy mammaries protruded from the arm holes of his white vest and jiggled with each ponderous step. The apex of his bald head shined brightly even in the subdued lighting of the bar. The remnants of his gray hair formed a laurel wreath around his crown. When he sat down the chair varnished under his mass. He perused the room as he drank his San Miguel lager, his slack jowls moving like gills with every gulp. The mood on stage seemed to palpably change. The spryness of the tarts was replaced by lethargy. Whenever the new guest's dull blue eyes rested on a girl she would get that thousand yards stare. It was as though she was wishing that she were back in her bamboo hut on Samar. Some of the more naughty girls pushed others to the front and giggled out of amusement. My two nubile companions took one look in the toad's direction and began to beg me to take them. Apparently, the little strumpets were less than eager to be the ones selected for a Viagra induced pounding by the behemoth that appeared to be not one ounce shy of 350 lbs.

I relented and took them both although a bit ambivalent since it was only the third bar visited that evening. As we left the girls bid farewell to companions left behind to face the Bone Crusher. Some poor little fuck meat would be taking one for the team tonight to send rice money back to a bamboo hut in some forsaken corner of the Bush in Samar. As we exit the DJ play's a song from Black Eyed Peas – 'I got to feeling that tonight's going to be a good night, That tonight's going to be a good night, That tonight's going to be a good good night. '

Mbsl65
09-07-11, 07:51
I can deal with all kind of salesman but one of the made me laugh. He was trying to sell me a garden hose. I understand Viagra or umbrella or other trinkets but garden hose? .


Recently, as I perambulated along Fields Avenue on a rainy evening fending off hucksters of umbrellas, Viagra and flowers, a saucy little tart called to me. 'Poo-say sah! You want poo-say? ' she yelled with an impish smile from the doorway of her bar. I needed no further persuasion. As quick as a fart I went through the door. On stage there was a herd of sexy twiggy Samar beauties. They cheered and high-fived me as the plump mama ushered me to a seat with a hawk's eye view of the buffet of tender flesh on display. The waitress

Sammon
09-07-11, 13:32
Nice report of blow row! Makes me want to return soon. I had the best threesome there as well in the back room at the bar. One girl took her first shot in the mouth and started choking while the other girl and I laughed. The girl who took the cum shot was bragging to the mama in tagalog after that she took her first cum shot and how she choked on it and it got all over her face. The other girls sitting there were all listening and looking over at me giggiling. Kind of a turn on having 6 young filipinas have a conversation about sucking your dick.

Are the blow row girls available to take out of the bar like other places?Blow row girls are available as barfine also. I have never taken any from there although I have visited them with my friend who likes the BBBJ. Usually I stay downstairs and have a drink. One time I bought a drink for a " virgin "

Girl there. She said I can take any of the girls to my room ST or LT and even her but since she is cherry, she will do only BJ.

Not sure of the barfine price. I generally do not like to do them knowing there are too many dicks in their mouth.

WestCoast1
09-07-11, 14:58
Are the blow row girls available to take out of the bar like other places?Yes. Some bars do ST for 2 hours, some 4 hours. LT for double the price is also available. See the last pics I posted, they are in my room.

Undercoverh
09-08-11, 04:20
Nice report of blow row! Makes me want to return soon. I had the best threesome there as well in the back room at the bar. One girl took her first shot in the mouth and started choking while the other girl and I laughed. The girl who took the cum shot was bragging to the mama in tagalog after that she took her first cum shot and how she choked on it and it got all over her face. The other girls sitting there were all listening and looking over at me giggiling. Kind of a turn on having 6 young filipinas have a conversation about sucking your dick.

Are the blow row girls available to take out of the bar like other places?That is what I love about blowrow, the girls know why they are there and they are proud of doing a good job. Now, that's customer service!

Regarding take out, oh yes. I only do take out there. The fun thing about blowrow is you now pay 700p for 2 hours which includes BBBJ and FS sex. If you want her for 12 yours, I think the price is around 1, 200 to 1, 400. I always do the 2 hour deal. I do not like hookers sleeping with me over night til the next morning. That's just me. I know of lots of guys who like the girl to stay and are pissed if they leave early. As for me, I do not want to make anyone stay with me who does not want to be there. Therefore, 2 hours is, for me and her I think, more then enough time to do the deed and have a GFE. Plus, after I shot my load, I really have lost interest in her anyway.

It is kind of funny, when I take 2 girls from blowrow and walk to my hotel room, I feel like everyone is watching me and thinking...."hey, that guy is going to f_uck those two girls! How could he do that to those nice young Filipinas."

WestCoast1
09-08-11, 04:35
"hey, that guy is going to f_uck those two girls! How could he do that to those nice young Filipinas."Hahaha. That's EXACTLY what I'm hoping they will say.

El Greco
09-08-11, 06:08
That is what I love about blowrow, the girls know why they are there and they are proud of doing a good job. Now, that's customer service!

Regarding take out, oh yes. I only do take out there. The fun thing about blowrow is you now pay 700p for 2 hours which includes BBBJ and FS sex. If you want her for 12 yours, I think the price is around 1, 200 to 1, 400. I always do the 2 hour deal. I do not like hookers sleeping with me over night til the next morning. That's just me. I know of lots of guys who like the girl to stay and are pissed if they leave early. As for me, I do not want to make anyone stay with me who does not want to be there. Therefore. 2 hours is, for me and her I think, more then enough time to do the deed and have a GFE. Plus, after I shot my load, I really have lost interest in her anyway.

It is kind of funny, when I take 2 girls from blowrow and walk to my hotel room, I feel like everyone is watching me and thinking."hey, that guy is going to f_uck those two girls! How could he do that to those nice young Filipinas."You remind me of someone I know. LOL.

I am doing exactly the same plus that I try to stay within walking distance.

You will not get anything more than 6 there but considering the PSE service you get and the threesome fun it's ok with me.

I do take my fair share of bar hoping too but mainly for the eye candy.

Amavida
09-08-11, 11:00
It was then that an enormous gut parted the curtains in the doorway followed by a large toad of a man. He moved with the stiffness and determination of an Irishman's prick on Saint Patrick's Day. Some of the more naughty girls pushed others to the front and giggled out of amusement. My two nubile companions took one look in the toad's direction and began to beg me to take them. Apparently, the little strumpets were less than eager to be the ones selected for a Viagra induced pounding by the behemoth that appeared to be not one ounce shy of 350 lbs.Great word picture! Funny story! . Amazing how gwapo we become when guys like that turn up ha? Hehehehe.

AV

Freezone
09-09-11, 01:14
I read the paper today in oakland california, three people shot on Saturday / one died.

Makes for 80 homicides for the year/That's nothing.

Over the 3 day Labor day holiday in NYC. 23 shootings and 8 dead.

3 shootings happened on labor day on the parade route of the east indies parade in Brooklyn, despite having several thousand cops manning the parade route.

And this being NYC with the heighten security with upcoming 9/11 and NYC the tourist capital of America.

Crime in the PI seems tame compare to home.
Know this is a bit off topic but wanted everyone to have a comparison between "safe" Industrial world and the 3rd world.

Amavida
09-09-11, 05:03
.it seems in PI you pay the bar the entire cost of the transaction, and pay the girl an optional tip for services rendered. Am I correct in this assumption?Correct.

AV

X Man
09-09-11, 07:50
The response from AV is correct for AC and Subic Bay area (Baloy beach). The original poster asked about PI, and you can expect different systems in different locations. Manila is way weird. Figure it out for yourself. Or ask AV.


Correct.

AV

Rubberyman
09-09-11, 11:39
great word picture! funny story! . amazing how gwapo we become when guys like that turn up ha? hehehehe.

avheh!

just think of the moneymaking opportunities for those of us who are rather more substantial than our peers.

if the lady of your dreams is less than enthusiastic about your charms, a text or phone call to our larger associate inviting him to waddle through the door would soon change the mind of the damsel under question about "i go with you". sling the guy a 150 or so for each 'appearance' and he would probably make a couple of thou a day without the worries and risks of owning a bar. not to mention the free drinks needed to keep him in 'condition'.

Fastpiston
09-10-11, 04:21
That's nothing.

Over the 3 day Labor day holiday in NYC. 23 shootings and 8 dead.

3 shootings happened on labor day on the parade route of the east indies parade in Brooklyn, despite having several thousand cops manning the parade route.

And this being NYC with the heighten security with upcoming 9/11 and NYC the tourist capital of America.

Crime in the PI seems tame compare to home.

Know this is a bit off topic but wanted everyone to have a comparison between "safe" Industrial world and the 3rd world.Remember that you do not hear about all the killings etc. That take place in the Philippines, only those that have readership potential interest.

Fastpiston
09-10-11, 04:37
Yap, glad to read another guy had the same fun I had! Blowrow does not get enough credit for the fun that can be had there. On a side note, I was reading that each year in the Philippines, 875, 000 girls turn 18. Wow! Yap, that is 875,000! The problem is, not enough jobs for them and they are turning out babies. Thus, the Philippiines has an out of control population growth rate. In 17 years, the population went from 76 million to 93 million. When I read this, I thought, hell, this is good news! More girls of the legal sex age each year, I fail to see the problem here. : - )More good news: the percentage of school boys that are gay, according to the Philippine media, is extremely large. So where can the girls go? The only answer is national service to alleviate female frustration. At a minimum, long handled ribbed hairbrushes and dildos should sell well.

Wal50
09-11-11, 05:18
I appreciate the opinion, but it is a few too many abbreviations. I figured out RA was "Richard Agnew" and RUC is "Royal Ulster Constabulary", but thats from reading other forums. The streaming nature of this forum means a particular subject will get broken up by comments on other subjects.The police have arrested the driver, Jesus Santos, for the murder. After a "chat" with police, he identified the foreigner hitman as Timothy Hafman.

He has 'fingered' (excuse the pun) the local Congressman and Mayor. Strange that a foreigner was chosen to do the deed. Maybe an expat assisted in the choice.

Full credit to the local cops, but "higher powers" will muddy the water.

Undercoverh
09-11-11, 18:45
The police have arrested the driver, Jesus Santos, for the murder. After a "chat" with police, he identified the foreigner hitman as Timothy Hafman.

He has 'fingered' (excuse the pun) the local Congressman and Mayor. Strange that a foreigner was chosen to do the deed. Maybe an expat assisted in the choice.

Full credit to the local cops, but "higher powers" will muddy the water.Just to clarify, the talk of murders here may make some think that AC is a bad place to go to. Let's put things in the correct order here. First, when I went to AC 13 years ago for the first time, a bar owner was shot dead in the bar. So what, this is AC. AC has always been the wild wild west. Second, those who get kiilled, most of the time, have something to do with a business deal gone bad or they pissed someone off. Let's face it, most of the bar owners in AC or white guys (I have nothing against white guys) from another country using Filipinas to make money selling the girl's body. It is a dirty business done by dirty people who, from time to time, get killed over it, most of the time regarding money. Do not get me wrong, I am glad these guys supply the girls, but the fact is, these guys do not give a sh_t about the girl or me. They just want to make money, period. I am not passing judgement, but it takes a certain type of guy to be a pimp.

Third, normal guys going there to get laid do not, most of the time, have a problem. Unless, the guy acts an ass, wear gold around his neck, treast a local girl like shit, or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off one of the locals. Basically, if you stay in the main hotels, on the main drag, and visit the clubs during regular times of the eveing (I. E, not out at 4 am drunk walking down the street) , stay calm and respectful of the locals, you will NOT have a problem.

And last, the number of murders in the Phili on a yearly basis is far far less than any western country. In fact, the USA has more murders in one month, then the Phili has in one year! This is a fact, check out the CIA website on country details. Also, the AIDS rate is far far higher in the USA then the Phili (this is just a free extra fact). When my parents sent me to Los Angeles to attend college when I was 18, I was shocked! Gangs that will even kill cops. Drugs, and tons of murders. I had never heard of the word "drive-by" unitil I lived in L. A. For those of you who do not know, gangs just stay in the car, drive by, and shot at people or other gangs. In one case, a 6 year old boy was killed while he was eating dinner. Yap, this is America! I told my father,"these people are crazy here, I want to come home!"

So before anyone talks so much about the murders in the Phili, just remember that in the western countires, the murder rate is 7 to 15 times higher, on any give day. I am providing this info not to put down the USA, or any country. Just that, first time readers or newbies should understand the overall facts and truth. Also, again, I am not passing judgement or any guy who works as a pimp. How can I, I have been a buyer of the female services offered for a price.

Also, here is a another free fact for newbies, you do not have to go to bars to get laid. Just being nice and meeting the regular local girls will give you access to free p_ssy. Why not take up both, that is, local girls who want to meet guys from another country and the bar girls. Enjoy!

Cool
09-11-11, 23:29
Which airport serves AC?

WestCoast1
09-12-11, 02:03
Which airport serves AC?Clark Field. Intl call = CRK

FurryFriend
09-12-11, 03:49
So before anyone talks so much about the murders in the Phili, just remember that in the western countires, the murder rate is 7 to 15 times higher, on any give day.I agree safety concerns are often exaggerated in Angeles City. But you do nobody any favors by inventing facts. Your assertion that the murder rate in Western countries is 7 to 15 times higher than the Philippines is reckless fabrication.

I went to the CIA country page for the Philippines. It does not talk about murder rates. If you have it, I invite you to post a link.

Here is data from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime which everyone can verify for themselves:

http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=UNODC&f=tableCode%3A1.

Murder rate for 2008 (the latest data given)

- Philippines 6. 4 per 100, 000.

- United States 5. 2 per 100, 000.

The murder rate in the United States is 18% less than the Philippines.

Even without data, everybody only needs the slighest bit of commonsense to know that the Philippines is more dangerous than most Western countries. Here are facts:

- Poverty is rife in the Philippines with the average Filipino earning $5 per day (a majority earning less than $2 per day)

- Transparency International ranks the Philippines in the bottom quarter in terms of government and police corruption.

- The Philippines National Police is severely underfunded, understaffed and undertrained.

- The Philippines is fighting an insurgency against Communist and Islamic rebels that has lasted decades with no end in sight.

You don't need to be a criminlogist to predict that, in such an environment, there are greater safety concerns in the Philippines than your typical Western country.

I agree that, with basic precaution, it is safe to monger in Angeles City. But data does not support your assertion that life is safer in the Philippines than in America.


I had never heard of the word "drive-by" unitil I lived in L. A. For those of you who do not know, gangs just stay in the car, drive by, and shot at people or other gangs.You're using extreme examples. Does gangs in Los Angeles represent typical life in America? Does the Abu Sayyaf represent typical life in the Philippines?

Undercoverh
09-12-11, 06:33
I agree safety concerns are often exaggerated in Angeles City. But you do nobody any favors by inventing facts. Your assertion that the murder rate in Western countries is 7 to 15 times higher than the Philippines is reckless fabrication.

I went to the CIA country page for the Philippines. It does not talk about murder rates. If you have it, I invite you to post a link.


You don't need to be a criminlogist to predict that, in such an environment, there are greater safety concerns in the Philippines than your typical Western country.

I agree that, with basic precaution, it is safe to monger in Angeles City. But data does not support your assertion that life is safer in the Philippines than in America.

You're using extreme examples. Does gangs in Los Angeles represent typical life in America? Does the Abu Sayyaf represent typical life in the Philippines?If you feel that living in a city like Detroit, Memphis, Miami, Stockton, Watts, (I could go on, but I will not) is safer than visiting AC for vacation and you have found statics to support your position, then by all means you should avoid AC and stay safe in your country.

Hopefully, this will end the discussion on murders and all of us can get back to talking about what this site is really for.

FurryFriend
09-12-11, 10:40
then by all means you should avoid AC and stay safe in your countryWhy should I avoid AC? You conveniently forgotten the first sentence of my last post which stated my agreement that safety concerns about Angeles City are often exaggerated.

My concern with your post is not about the dangers of Angeles City, but that you fabricated information and thereby gave travellers to the Philippines a false sense of security. Your claim that the murder rate of Western countries is 7-15 times higher than the Philippines is utterly baseless. I'd wager if you conduct a survey, most tourists will feel more nervous touring the Philippines than they would in the United States.

Of course there are shitty parts of the United States. But the shitty parts of America are far smaller than the shitty parts of the Philippines.

Gangles
09-12-11, 14:18
I guess that it depends on how you report the statistics.

Rate per million is one way. Another in numbers of murders per day.

USA about 45 per day.

Phils, about 18 per day.

I have visited and worked in quite a few countries, and the only place where I have been held up at gunpoint, in my hotel room, and robbed of everything of value, was within a few blocks of the White House and the Australian Embasy in DC.

The only place where I have felt fearful for my safety was in the Bowry area of New York city.

G.


If you feel that living in a city like Detroit, Memphis, Miami, Stockton, Watts, (I could go on, but I will not) is safer than visiting AC for vacation and you have found statics to support your position, then by all means you should avoid AC and stay safe in your country.

Hopefully, this will end the discussion on murders and all of us can get back to talking about what this site is really for.

Barney Rubber
09-12-11, 14:27
I'm not trying to picking on any particular posters here. Both sides of the view have made some good arguments and some bad arguments in my humble opinion. There are TOO MANY VARIABLES to make a real comparison. Comparing New York City's murders to AC / Clark is NOT a good one. 300, 000 to what. 8,000, 000. And where do the murders take place. Mid town Manhattan? No. The BAD sections of Harlem, the Bronx and Brooklyn for the most part. The NUMBER of murders in the Philippines is less because it's 1/3 the population. There's good and bad sections / neighborhoods in many countries. For the most part I know the ones to stay out of in the major cities in America.

Several posters have quite observantly noted the "COMMON SENSE" picture of this whole argument. MANY of the murders are in AC / Clark have been people involved in "OTHER" activities than the normal mongers would be involved in. Drugs, bars, bargirls, etc, etc. Don't get drunk, don't get TOO stupid, don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off any locals, stay on the main track, don't walk the LONELY roads in the wee hours or go to the "BAD" areas, etc. And you should be okay! WAIT is this advice for A. C. Only or should I use the same theory for America. Thailand. Europe.

FurryFriend
09-12-11, 18:48
I guess that it depends on how you report the statistics.

Rate per million is one way. Another in numbers of murders per day.

USA about 45 per day.

Phils, about 18 per dayMay I point out that the population of the United States (312m) is 3. 3 times larger than the Philippines (94m)?

Assuming your statistic is correct, the murder rate in the United States is 24% lower than the Philippines.

Robbaf
09-12-11, 22:25
Also, here is a another free fact for newbies, you do not have to go to bars to get laid. Just being nice and meeting the regular local girls will give you access to free p_ssy. Why not take up both, that is, local girls who want to meet guys from another country and the bar girls. Enjoy!Another free fact for newbies. How many guys do you think go to AC and try to pick up the non-bar girls? Why bother going to AC and deal with the drama of local girls, because IMHO that is where you will GET in trouble with the locals. Where else can you go and pay appox $25 for a 18 year old GFE? If you want to meet girls on the internet, stay in Manila or go to Cebu, do not waste your time in AC.

I just returned from 8 days in AC yesterday and I seen first hand local girl drama. I had a couple of young guys with me and they picked up local hotel employees. First the girls were looking for fun, but then the drama started (I thought you loved me) and overall they told me that they would of enjoyed AC a lot more if there had not been any drama. Go to the bar and pay them to leave.

Robb

Robbaf
09-12-11, 22:38
Three homicides in AC in one night. I'm surprised nobody has remarked on the double homicide. The 3rd was apparently Filipino on Filipino but right outside of a bar with a. 45. Victim was female and military. Shooter is supposed to be an off duty cop.All three homicides had nothing to do with a tourist on vacation. The double was business related (as there was no robbery reported) and the female killing was not in the mainstream bar area that most tourist frequent, it was a local bar away from Fields Ave.

Robb

Slippery
09-13-11, 01:39
All three homicides had nothing to do with a tourist on vacation. The double was business related (as there was no robbery reported) and the female killing was not in the mainstream bar area that most tourist frequent, it was a local bar away from Fields Ave.

RobbI never said they had anything to do with a tourist on vacation but 3 homicides in one night in a city that small is significant to me. If AC population is roughly 250, 000, that extrapolates out to a dozen homicides in a city of a million. That's significant to me.

Fastpiston
09-13-11, 06:25
Look gets get down to the gravy here.

Everyone knows the Philippines is unsafe as a whole, I would suspect AC worse than a lot of other places in the Philippines. Check the travel advisories from the various embassies. Manila and AC are not Bangkok, Singapore or KL. Be careful at night and do not go to dark places, do not wear jewelry, do not flash money, try and use a closed room exchange shop if you are changing a lot of money, always smile at Filipinos. Do not get angry and argue. If bargaining, do it quietly, smile and joke.

Of course, if a mad former policeman climbs onto your bus and causes the swat team to climb aboard and kill everyone, then just pray.

ManonsanBoy
09-13-11, 10:36
Look gets get down to the gravy here.

Of course, if a mad former policeman climbs onto your bus and causes the swat team to climb aboard and kill everyone, then just pray.Incompetence piled on incompetence and apathy. It is time to get rid of the regime anciens!

X Man
09-13-11, 13:33
Statistics are pretty tricky. I took a course in uni and it really opened my eyes. I don't remember the math so much, but I learned enough to doubt the vague kind of statistics you get in news reports. FF, what is your interest in statistics?

I'd hate to be crucified for being terribly off topic, so let me say that. AC is a great place, where you can watch dancers both cute and horrific. You can chat with most all of them, although the topics may be limited. The waitresses are also eager to chat. If you are an interesting guy, or a guy who wants to buy drinks, you can get quite a large converstaion going. You can also pay what is called an early work release (EWR) which allows the employee to leave the premises and to be your tour guide for a while. To be honest, these tour guides aren't very informed about all travel matters, but they usually make up for it in eagerness and service. I'm especially fond of the all night tour, which seems to be a speciality in AC. X.


May I point out that the population of the United States (312m) is 3. 3 times larger than the Philippines (94m)?

Assuming your statistic is correct, the murder rate in the United States is 24% lower than the Philippines.

Jack Burton
09-13-11, 16:09
Recently, as I perambulated along Fields Avenue .Love your writing.

As a newbie to the forum, I've been contacting various laidies in the PI. One Happens to live in Angeles, walking distance from Options and Central Park Hotel. Would I be correct in assuming: a) She would be familiar with what happens on Fields Ave. Be) the interesting places don't show up on Google Map much see) it might be bad mojo mongering walking distance from where a gf knows everybody by name? Your opinion would be appreciated.

Robbaf
09-13-11, 21:40
Love your writing.

As a newbie to the forum, I've been contacting various laidies in the PI. One Happens to live in Angeles, walking distance from Options and Central Park Hotel. Would I be correct in assuming: a) She would be familiar with what happens on Fields Ave. Be) the interesting places don't show up on Google Map much see) it might be bad mojo mongering walking distance from where a gf knows everybody by name? Your opinion would be appreciated.You would be correct in assuming she knows / is in the game. There is a lot of stay-in's in that area.

Robb

Mc Don
09-14-11, 02:17
Another free fact for newbies. How many guys do you think go to AC and try to pick up the non-bar girls? Why bother going to AC and deal with the drama of local girls, because IMHO that is where you will GET in trouble with the locals. Where else can you go and pay appox $25 for a 18 year old GFE? If you want to meet girls on the internet, stay in Manila or go to Cebu, do not waste your time in AC.

I just returned from 8 days in AC yesterday and I seen first hand local girl drama. I had a couple of young guys with me and they picked up local hotel employees. First the girls were looking for fun, but then the drama started (I thought you loved me) and overall they told me that they would of enjoyed AC a lot more if there had not been any drama. Go to the bar and pay them to leave.

RobbBest advice you will ever get when it comes down to AC. AMEN!

I have seen dramas too when the girl on the end of the night 4am, refuses to go to the hotel room, saying she was only having fun and wanted to barhoop. Also seen dramas with local BF and so on. Its easy to pick up local chicks, but if you will do that then go to at least a place which has more then just bars like Manila or Cebu. You will get more choice, easyer girls and will enjoy the scenary much better

Tally Wacker
09-14-11, 03:14
"Originally Posted by Chocha Monger

Recently, as I perambulated along Fields Avenue."

[QUOTE=Jack Burton; 1196791]Love your writing.

Please don't incourage him.

FurryFriend
09-14-11, 03:15
but I learned enough to doubt the vague kind of statistics you get in news reports. FF, what is your interest in statistics?My interest contributing to this forum is the same as yours: to providing something potentially useful to readers, particularly new visitors to the Philippines.

It is your right to discount anything printed in news reports. Understandably, others may desire objective data from credible sources that weren't derived from speculation, fabrication or rumor.

SdeVan
09-14-11, 05:37
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in October and was thinking about these hotels that are close to the action: Orchid Inn Resort, Pacific Breeze, Central Park Hotel, Kokomos.

Anybody stayed at these hotels? Recommendations for one over another?

Your help is greatly appreciated. I'll return and post my field report when I get back.

Thanks

Poopbunny
09-14-11, 09:38
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in OctoberWhen in Oct are you going?

Sxxxx
09-14-11, 11:25
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in October and was thinking about these hotels that are close to the action: Orchid Inn Resort, Pacific Breeze, Central Park Hotel, Kokomos.

Anybody stayed at these hotels? Recommendations for one over another?

Your help is greatly appreciated. I'll return and post my field report when I get back.

ThanksYes, well it looks like you have done your research, good. And in my opinion, think you have listed them in right order, Orchid Inn Resort 1st choice, Kokomos although ok, last choice. Nothing wrong with the others either. Tip. Don't sell your virginity cheaply, LOL.

Gangles
09-14-11, 14:52
OK, point taken.

But I seem to recall quite a few reports of angry students, or wierd guys taking guns into schools and murdering large numbers of people in mass slayings. The Unabomber, Quite a few similar events, and these were in fairly innocuous places, not the Bronx.

As for travel advisories. What a bunch of hypocritical rubbish.

A shooting of a few people in the Phils and every western government in the world issues a travel advisory.

3, 000 people are murdered in a day in the US. No travel advisory. A whole lot of people get murderd in an attack on the London transportation system, no travel advisory.

A lot of people get murderd when a train is bombed in Madrid. No travel advisory.

That stuff is bullshit, pure and simple.

D.


I'm not trying to picking on any particular posters here. Both sides of the view have made some good arguments and some bad arguments in my humble opinion. There are TOO MANY VARIABLES to make a real comparison. Comparing New York City's murders to AC / Clark is NOT a good one. 300, 000 to what. 8,000, 000. And where do the murders take place. Mid town Manhattan? No. The BAD sections of Harlem, the Bronx and Brooklyn for the most part. The NUMBER of murders in the Philippines is less because it's 1/3 the population. There's good and bad sections / neighborhoods in many countries. For the most part I know the ones to stay out of in the major cities in America.

Several posters have quite observantly noted the "COMMON SENSE" picture of this whole argument. MANY of the murders are in AC / Clark have been people involved in "OTHER" activities than the normal mongers would be involved in. Drugs, bars, bargirls, etc, etc. Don't get drunk, don't get TOO stupid, don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off any locals, stay on the main track, don't walk the LONELY roads in the wee hours or go to the "BAD" areas, etc. And you should be okay! WAIT is this advice for A. C. Only or should I use the same theory for America. Thailand. Europe.

Member #4698
09-15-11, 00:36
Dirty Duck, Crystal Palace and Dollhouse bars were raided last night and some of the DH body paint girls were hauled away. Anybody on the ground in AC see it go down? Just what this town needs; another raid. If they are not careful, these idiots may yet kill the golden goose.

FurryFriend
09-15-11, 01:11
3, 000 people are murdered in a day in the US. No travel advisory.Another reckless fabrication.

That equates to 1. 1 million murders in the US per year, or double the amount of Americans killed in both World War I and II combined (which is about 600k).

Several posts ago, I posted a link to a UN database comparing the murder rate across many countries. The US murder rate is 18% lower than the Philippines in 2008.

I agree crime in AC is exaggerated. But you don't discredit one exaggeration by making another. The utter disregard for science around here is quite frightening, even from senior members. Newbies are invited to read this forum with a bit of scepticism and not think a Senior title makes them more credible.

Uncle Goober
09-15-11, 01:30
Another reckless fabrication.

That equates to 1. 1 million murders in the US per year.Furry, I think you misundestood the point that Gangles was making.

He was saying (I suspect) that no travel advisory was issued after the 911 attacks, in which 3000 people died in a single day.

I don't think he was suggesting that 3000 people are murdered every day in USA.

Cheers.

ThatGuy865
09-15-11, 02:30
The difference with the 3, 000 in one day analogy is that is that an every month / year / decade occurrence. Where kidnapping, murder, for such a small country is common.

If you google. You will see that the Philippines has a higher murder rate per capita than the USA

FurryFriend
09-15-11, 03:36
He was saying (I suspect) that no travel advisory was issued after the 911 attacks, in which 3000 people died in a single day.OK, that makes a bit more sense.

But not much.

Travel advisories are rarely issued in reaction to a single incident. Reasonable people understand tragedies like the Oslo shooting can take place anywhere anytime.

On the other hand, the Philippines have active Islamic and Communist insurgencies for decades. If there were a low-grade civil war in the USA, a travel advisory against the US will be completely warranted.

I should point out that the US advisory against the Philippines is only for troubled areas in Mindanao. The advisory is narrow in scope and completely reasonable.

WestCoast1
09-15-11, 05:10
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in October and was thinking about these hotels that are close to the action: Orchid Inn Resort, Pacific Breeze, Central Park Hotel, Kokomos.

Anybody stayed at these hotels? Recommendations for one over another?

Your help is greatly appreciated. I'll return and post my field report when I get back.

ThanksCentral Park. Average, clean room with aircon, fridge, queen bed. $35-38 per night. About 50 meters to mexican food, Crystal Palace, Body Shop, Kokomos, and Santos St (blow row bars). Has restaurant on site and room service. Quiet location (I like that). Everything is within 2 minutes walking. All the others you mentioned are within a block or two I think. Prices will differ. I understand good things can happen there.

157861

Key Master
09-15-11, 05:22
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in October and was thinking about these hotels that are close to the action: Orchid Inn Resort, Pacific Breeze, Central Park Hotel, Kokomos.

Anybody stayed at these hotels? Recommendations for one over another?

Your help is greatly appreciated. I'll return and post my field report when I get back.

ThanksHey, nice to have a newbie here and someone who wants to file a report later, but how about doing some reading for awhile and not be so lazy? These kind of things have been talked about so much. There is even a section for accommodations in AC that you can read. Reading that thread and this thread will probably answer most of your questions and the fact that you mention those places means you probably already have a good ideal about the place.

SdeVan
09-15-11, 06:32
when in oct are you going?mid october. around the 19th. any special events going on around that time in ac?

SdeVan
09-15-11, 06:41
Yes, well it looks like you have done your research, good. And in my opinion, think you have listed them in right order, Orchid Inn Resort 1st choice, Kokomos although ok, last choice. Nothing wrong with the others either. Tip. Don't sell your virginity cheaply, LOL.Bro Sxxxx, thanks for the feedback. I was thinking the same. 1st Orchid Inn Resort. 2nd Kokomos. But Kokomos has large bedside mirror, disco lights, and dance table in some of their rooms! It's starting to tilt the balance to Kokomos. I'm just not sure how clean / unclean the rooms are and how the service is so wanted some sage advice from here. I've been reading up on all the posts diligently for my research, just haven't had a chance to contribute. But will be soon! Can't wait!

SdeVan
09-15-11, 06:48
Central Park. Average, clean room with aircon, fridge, queen bed. $35-38 per night. About 50 meters to mexican food, Crystal Palace, Body Shop, Kokomos, and Santos St (blow row bars). Has restaurant on site and room service. Quiet location (I like that). Everything is within 2 minutes walking. All the others you mentioned are within a block or two I think. Prices will differ. I understand good things can happen there.

157861Westcoast1, thanks for the response. That's exactly the type of information I was looking for. What to expect of the room, price range, and the going ons around it! Appreciate the input.

SdeVan
09-15-11, 06:55
Hey, nice to have a newbie here and someone who wants to file a report later, but how about doing some reading for awhile and not be so lazy? These kind of things have been talked about so much. There is even a section for accommodations in AC that you can read. Reading that thread and this thread will probably answer most of your questions and the fact that you mention those places means you probably already have a good ideal about the place.Oh, there's an AC accommodations thread? I need to look that up. I've just been following this thread and almost read every post in this thread and I got to say that this is the most informative forum that I've found. Another forum and Sammy don't even come close!

Yeah, I've been doing alot of research but haven't found anything specifically about the room and surroundings of those hotels that I've listed. I've found info that these are the places right in the middle of the action. I read that Kokomo's has disco lights and dance table in room (stripper pole maybe?)? Can anybody confirm?

Dflostrife
09-15-11, 07:48
I see what you are talking about its advertise in their website, here is a website I sometimes use to find places to stay there;

http://www.balibago.org/balibago_hotels/Kokomoz.php

I also found this other one place its more of an apartment for 1500 pesos and up fully furnish check it out.

http://www.kandisuites.com/regency-court.htm

I might be running into you there I will be going at the end of October I hear Halloween its pretty good there.

Also you where are flying into manila or clark, manila will be around 2 hours from angeles and it runs about 4000-5000 pesos I have a place where they send a car to pick you up for around 3000 pesos let me know if you need the number

Sxxxx
09-15-11, 09:20
Dirty Duck, Crystal Palace and Dollhouse bars were raided last night and some of the DH body paint girls were hauled away. Anybody on the ground in AC see it go down? Just what this town needs; another raid. If they are not careful, these idiots may yet kill the golden goose.They haven't killed it yet, but they have got it by the throat. Putting me off, thats for sure.

Filipino's are well known for shooting themselves in the foot. Think I might stay away until they come to their senses, if ever.

Nvslim
09-15-11, 09:56
I understand good things can happen there.Is the photo from their advertising literature? ;)

It would sell me on the hotel.

Slim

Poopbunny
09-15-11, 11:00
Mid October. Around the 19th. Any special events going on around that time in AC?I am planning to be there 17th - 20th in case you want someone to show you around.

Will be staying at Lewis Grand like always.

You might want to pony up and pay to be a ISG member capable of receiving PM.

BillB
09-15-11, 12:36
OK, point taken.

But I seem to recall quite a few reports of angry students, or wierd guys taking guns into schools and murdering large numbers of people in mass slayings. The Unabomber, Quite a few similar events, and these were in fairly innocuous places, not the Bronx.

As for travel advisories. What a bunch of hypocritical rubbish.

A shooting of a few people in the Phils and every western government in the world issues a travel advisory.

3, 000 people are murdered in a day in the US. No travel advisory. A whole lot of people get murderd in an attack on the London transportation system, no travel advisory.

A lot of people get murderd when a train is bombed in Madrid. No travel advisory.

That stuff is bullshit, pure and simple.

D.The decision to travel is your sole responsibility, Countries issue Travel Advisories to provide it's citizens with up to date information. Most Western Countries if not all issue travel warnings to every other Country Including travel to the US.

Since this board discusses travel to the Philippines you are getting the travel warnings to the Philippines, and Not to the US.

Below is the link to Australian travel advisory to it's citizens on travel To the US.

I am a US citizen and used the Australian Travel warning link simply because it was the first I found and for no other reason.

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/United_States_of_America

Sammon
09-15-11, 13:54
Oh, there's an AC accommodations thread? I need to look that up. I've just been following this thread and almost read every post in this thread and I got to say that this is the most informative forum that I've found. Another forum and Sammy don't even come close!

Yeah, I've been doing alot of research but haven't found anything specifically about the room and surroundings of those hotels that I've listed. I've found info that these are the places right in the middle of the action. I read that Kokomo's has disco lights and dance table in room (stripper pole maybe?)? Can anybody confirm?My preference is Royal amsterdam Hotel. It is in the heart of the entertainment. The rooms are clean with nice beds. There are many options for different rooms with price.

For a newbie, better stay right on Fields avenue to get the bearings. Second visit you can look for cheaper accomodations elsewhere.

Chuckster007
09-15-11, 14:29
Hi, I'm making my virgin trip to AC in October and was thinking about these hotels that are close to the action: Orchid Inn Resort, Pacific Breeze, Central Park Hotel, Kokomos.

Anybody stayed at these hotels? Recommendations for one over another?

Your help is greatly appreciated. I'll return and post my field report when I get back.

ThanksI recommend Pacific Breeze, $50-60 per night, great pool, good security (when the girl leaves your room after the deed is done the security guy at the door calls your room to ask if everything is good, you say yes then she is allowed to leave).2 mins walking distance to the action but far enough that is not noisy. I have been staying at this place for the past few years, my last trip was mar 2011, I'm heading back there in Nov, got some sweet flight tickets from HK return trip incl tax HK$620 with tiger airways. If you need some good info check out philippinesaddicts forum

Falcon 95
09-15-11, 20:50
i've just returned from ac. i'll get straight to the point. the regular barfine is 1, 800 pesos (around $42) now in most places on fields. i don't know about the perimeter bars. my guess is they are a little less. i don't know if the 1, 800 pesos can be negotiated down if you want the girl only for a couple of hours after which she can come back to work. maybe yes and no depending on the bar and / or the mamasan. it might also help if you are a good negotiator. although the girls these days seem to stay only a couple of hours no matter what, so maybe it's not negotiable.

also, i only got 42 pesos for a dollar at the money changer. before 100 dollars a day used to be enough for a night of fun. (of course, as long as you don't stay in a hotel like the lewis grand or the abc.) but now maybe you need at least 150 dollars a day. and a lot more for big partiers.

each trip there are always these two or three little bars that creep up. i tried a few of them. they all turned out to be disappointing. they seemed to be operating on a skeleton budget. the interior was nothing to rave about. but that was my experience. others may have better ones. they were on lower fields avenue in case you are wondering where they are located.

the black crossbar that holds the ping pong ball basket above the stage in genesis is a little bent in the middle. what happened was this dude was on stage and he grabbed the crossbar with his both arms and pulled himself up a number of times. and the dude was at least 200 pounds, perhaps even more. the manager seemed to be upset and told him to get off the stage immediately. i guess it's not always a good idea for a dude to get on the stage. the customers want to see girls on the stage, not dudes.

the 'carousel' in carousel doesn't rotate anymore. they said it was broken. it's not as fun to watch the girls without the rotating stage. the girls do rotate on their own though. i wonder who's doing the pace-making. but the rotating stage is their trademark. i hope they get it fixed very soon.

crystal palace and atlantis are always busy as hell. it's very hard to find a decent seat in those places.

with every trip, the police presence on fields seems to get heavier and heavier. fields seems to be very safe at night. if you venture away from fields, that may be another story.

a few tips and infos. when you leave out of clark field, your airport fee is 600 pesos. plus you will need 300 pesos for the taxi. so you should have at least 1, 000 pesos when you leave your hotel for the airport. there's nothing to buy at the airport and the food is crappy. also, don't put your umbrella in your carry-on luggage. i made that dumb mistake and the security dude confirep001ed mine. i guess he's having fun with it now because it was a good one. they must think an umbrella can be used to whack the pilot or something.

this wasn't a full report. but i hope it helps.

falcon out

Chocha Monger
09-16-11, 03:59
love your writing.

as a newbie to the forum, i've been contacting various laidies in the pi. one happens to live in angeles, walking distance from options and central park hotel. would i be correct in assuming: a) she would be familiar with what happens on fields ave. be) the interesting places don't show up on google map much see) it might be bad mojo mongering walking distance from where a gf knows everybody by name? your opinion would be appreciated.jack,

thank you for the compliments. welcome to isg and, more specifically, my loyal readership. now as to the question of your lady friend, if she lives in angeles city she knows of the matters of commerce on fields avenue without a doubt. in fact, chance favors that she has actually sold salmon and peeled bananas. finally, it is a terrible idea to have a girlfriend from or in angeles city, especially being a sex tourist. such a matter is likely to be a source of much vexation as you shall see.

best regards,

cm

Mr Enternational
09-16-11, 06:14
jack,

thank you for the compliments. welcome to isg and, more specifically, my loyal readership. now as to the question of your lady friend, if she lives in angeles city she knows of the matters of commerce on fields avenue without a doubt. in fact, chance favors that she has actually sold salmon and peeled bananas.yeah. and she has fucked for money too!

MassaCure
09-16-11, 10:26
Dirty Duck, Crystal Palace and Dollhouse bars were raided last night and some of the DH body paint girls were hauled away. Anybody on the ground in AC see it go down? Just what this town needs; another raid. If they are not careful, these idiots may yet kill the golden goose.I was outside, I saw the raids on the Duck and Dollhouse. I actually went to Crystal Palace last night, still had a good amount of girls working, seemed like a few dance teams were missing. Dollhouse only had a handfull of girls working, I actually saw a few walking up and down the street. The duck was completely closed. I spoke to most of the duck girls the night it happened. Most of them seemed to avoid the raid. I saw a few being hauled off crying. Made for a bad night alot of the bars closed in fear they would get raided and in order to protect their girls, alot of the girls ended up at the sky trax on both nights.

MassaCure
09-16-11, 10:33
Another free fact for newbies. How many guys do you think go to AC and try to pick up the non-bar girls? Why bother going to AC and deal with the drama of local girls, because IMHO that is where you will GET in trouble with the locals. Where else can you go and pay appox $25 for a 18 year old GFE? If you want to meet girls on the internet, stay in Manila or go to Cebu, do not waste your time in AC.

I just returned from 8 days in AC yesterday and I seen first hand local girl drama. I had a couple of young guys with me and they picked up local hotel employees. First the girls were looking for fun, but then the drama started (I thought you loved me) and overall they told me that they would of enjoyed AC a lot more if there had not been any drama. Go to the bar and pay them to leave.

RobbI agree I made the mistake, first girl went smoothly I never called her back, three other girls have been knocking on my hotel door early in the morning, waiting for me around corners. I mean knocking and not leaving, first girl came 3 am last night, kept knocking, this morning two more episodes of the same shit. Claiming I must pay for their transportation home if I don't want her to stay.

SdeVan
09-17-11, 00:38
Thank you all for answering my questions and supplying great recommendations! I will definitely check out the links and the recommended hotels. Maybe I'll switch hotels after a couple of days just to try them out and report it here.

Dflostrife, I'm flying from Hong Kong to Clark and I can only find Cebu Air with a flight out. It's about HK700 round trip (plus HK100 for baggage option). Clark is about 20 minutes away? So probably easier if I take a taxi / jeepney there.

PBunny, I can only take a long vacation once every couple of years so I don't know if there's value to pay the ISG membership. But I will be on the internet while I'm there (assuming the advertised wifi works in the hotel rooms). Maybe I can post what bars I'll be at those days and we can meet up have a drink. BTW, I'm traveling in a group of 4 so if you see 4 bumbling fools that's us! Haha.

Oh, I also see you posting on the Dongguan thread. The first part of our trip Oct 15. Oct 19 we'll be in Changping.

Just Seven
09-17-11, 05:03
Claiming I must pay for their transportation home if I don't want her to stay.Yeah thats sorta the deal. If you don't want them to stay, you pay for them to go home.

Dodochen
09-17-11, 08:56
Hi,

Is there a Casa in Angeles City? I mean not a bar or similar stuff.

WestCoast1
09-17-11, 15:32
Claiming I must pay for their transportation home if I don't want her to stay.Yes, if you mentioned in chat you want to meet her, and she spends her own dime to get to you, its a reasonable request on her part that you give her money not only to head home (whether you partake of her or not) , but also her fare there. Many girls have to borrow the money (even if its small) to get a jeep or tryke to get to your location. They have not a single peso in their purse upon arrival. If you don't give her something to get home on, she could be stuck. Even if she gets the date or time wrong when she comes to you, even if you already have another girl in your room and don't want her there, step outside and slip her 100 or 200 to get her home and get rid of her. Otherwise she might end up calling you or knocking on your door incessantly.

Jack Burton
09-17-11, 15:48
jack,

thank you for the compliments. welcome to isg and, more specifically, my loyal readership. now as to the question of your lady friend, if she lives in angeles city she knows of the matters of commerce on fields avenue without a doubt. in fact, chance favors that she has actually sold salmon and peeled bananas. finally, it is a terrible idea to have a girlfriend from or in angeles city, especially being a sex tourist. such a matter is likely to be a source of much vexation as you shall see.

best regards,

cmthanks. i understand. she has been trying to steer me away from fields ave. obvious reasons. and if i were to accept her as gf, i would find a different place to monger. i'd guess that one or two sisters have worked that area, from what i don't ask. and that one sister doesn't work the call center. and it could be three for three. but one pretends that a potential gf has the same rules i pretend to have. my tastes run to over age 25, and i just have to accept that a woman weighing 110 lbs in angeles thinks she is fat. if worst, i could take a side trip to pattaya.

X Man
09-18-11, 14:01
Why? Why does a new poster ask such a question? Sorry for being such a cynical guy, but I would not touch this with a ten foot pole.


Hi,

Is there a Casa in Angeles City? I mean not a bar or similar stuff.

WestCoast1
09-18-11, 19:44
Why? Why does a new poster ask such a question? Sorry for being such a cynical guy, but I would not touch this with a ten foot pole.X, why can't the newb ask a question?

Native Humper
09-18-11, 20:37
X, why can't the newb ask a question?So much "judgement" from a few members suggests that these people have no life and take this site much too seriously when giving their "rude" replys

FurryFriend
09-18-11, 21:05
So much "judgement" from a few members suggests that these people have no life and take this site much too seriously when giving their "rude" replysThere are questions that newbies should obviously read the forum instead (RTFF). For example, if newbies ask what's there to do in Angeles City, that's a RTFF question.

But asking if there's a casa in AC is a legitimate question.

Regretfully, this forum has many members (most of whom are Senior Members) who seem to shoot down legitimate discussion.

Nomadic Mong
09-18-11, 23:07
I was outside, I saw the raids on the Duck and Dollhouse. I actually went to Crystal Palace last night, still had a good amount of girls working, seemed like a few dance teams were missing. Dollhouse only had a handfull of girls working, I actually saw a few walking up and down the street. The duck was completely closed. I spoke to most of the duck girls the night it happened. Most of them seemed to avoid the raid. I saw a few being hauled off crying. Made for a bad night alot of the bars closed in fear they would get raided and in order to protect their girls, alot of the girls ended up at the sky trax on both nights.Here is the news about the raid. The # of girls from DH hurts.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/provincial/13487-[CodeWord909] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord909)-flourishes-in-angeles

Is any one on the ground report on current status please

Screaming Beaver
09-19-11, 01:23
Why? Why does a new poster ask such a question? Sorry for being such a cynical guy, but I would not touch this with a ten foot pole.Any wonder why this person is under permanent moderation?

Poopbunny
09-19-11, 07:14
I was outside, I saw the raids on the Duck and Dollhouse. I actually went to Crystal Palace last night, still had a good amount of girls working, seemed like a few dance teams were missing. Dollhouse only had a handfull of girls working, I actually saw a few walking up and down the street. The duck was completely closed. I spoke to most of the duck girls the night it happened. Most of them seemed to avoid the raid. I saw a few being hauled off crying. Made for a bad night alot of the bars closed in fear they would get raided and in order to protect their girls, alot of the girls ended up at the sky trax on both nights.How do they raid the Dollhouse and not Crystal Palace. From memory they were connected at a couple of levels, almost seems like it could be one big bar. If vice started streaming into DH, people could just drift into CP.

Boshekk
09-19-11, 15:41
I've just come back from AC. I find most of the bar not allowed the girls to be barfined. They just dance, drink at the bar until bar closed. I can only pick up girls at CP. I have to give the money directly to the girl. When will it back to normal?

Jack Burton
09-19-11, 15:52
I agree I made the mistake, first girl went smoothly I never called her back, three other girls have been knocking on my hotel door early in the morning, waiting for me around corners. I mean knocking and not leaving, first girl came 3 am last night, kept knocking, this morning two more episodes of the same shit. Claiming I must pay for their transportation home if I don't want her to stay.Um, you do know that you don't pay for them to come, you pay for them to leave. And now you know why.

X Man
09-19-11, 17:16
If it is a new person, I guess it's harmless. But is it really someone new? Many times when I post (when I used to post) photos, I get newMembers asking me what bar and how much and what is her name. Sometimes the people asking have never posted before. NEVER. So posting too much detailed information is dangerous to the women and to the bars. I recommend that people be vague when they post.


X, why can't the newb ask a question?

X Man
09-19-11, 17:34
A quick read thru your posts seem to indicate a serious problem on your own part.

Rather than whine, please answer the poster's question. He wants to know where a casa is in AC. Make sure you give the exact address, phone number and the owner's name. I'm sure any indebted trike driver or on-the-take authority would be happy for the information.


Any wonder why this person is under permanent moderation?

Nolz7
09-19-11, 18:59
If it is a new person, I guess it's harmless. But is it really someone new? Many times when I post (when I used to post) photos, I get newMembers asking me what bar and how much and what is her name. Sometimes the people asking have never posted before. NEVER. So posting too much detailed information is dangerous to the women and to the bars. I recommend that people be vague when they post.I agree. We may never know that there are Filipino police officers lurking at this forum. If it's dangerous to the girls, it's dangerous for us as well. The happy endings in Angeles, Cebu and Manila are the only joy I have in life that keeps me from committing suicide!

Key Master
09-19-11, 19:06
If it is a new person, I guess it's harmless. But is it really someone new? Many times when I post (when I used to post) photos, I get newMembers asking me what bar and how much and what is her name. Sometimes the people asking have never posted before. NEVER. So posting too much detailed information is dangerous to the women and to the bars. I recommend that people be vague when they post.I am in general agreement with X on being careful about how much information is given. I am a little apprehensive when some of these new people come in with some weird questions and honestly, a casa question may make more sense in a place like Cebu or Manila when everything is so spread out, but in Angeles, it's in your face for the other places. Questions about women specifics from pictures bother me also because some of the people here are idiots and will share too much information with them in regards. Anyway, just my opinion. A lot of people are quick to judge, and will have their own opinions obviously. It's not going to change them. Message boards have made it so easy but at the same time, sometimes sharing too much is actually bad.

HenryV
09-19-11, 19:51
Yes, we need more information on the raids. Permit me to be a little selfish, I will be visiting AC next month.

Should I go at all?


Here is the news about the raid. The # of girls from DH hurts.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/provincial/13487-[CodeWord909] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord909)-flourishes-in-angeles

Is any one on the ground report on current status please

Irony Monger
09-19-11, 19:58
Wow, just read the reports below. Was planning a short visit in 10 days. If things do not improve in a couple days, I may cancel my reservation and stay in Manila or fly to Cebu instead. Is anyone else able to verify that bar fines and such are a no go?

DrPecker
09-19-11, 21:55
I've just come back from AC. I find most of the bar not allowed the girls to be barfined. They just dance, drink at the bar until bar closed. I can only pick up girls at CP. I have to give the money directly to the girl. When will it back to normal?Wow that sounds pretty dire. Related to the recent raids people have reported, no doubt.

How long were you there for and was it looking like it was improving towards the end of your stay?

I was planning my cherry trip to AC end of Oct (even reserved a room with the ABC hotel earlier today) but am now worried about locking it in after reading these posts. :|

FurryFriend
09-19-11, 23:33
A quick read thru your posts seem to indicate a serious problem on your own part.

Rather than whine, please answer the poster's question. He wants to know where a casa is in AC. Make sure you give the exact address, phone number and the owner's name. I'm sure any indebted trike driver or on-the-take authority would be happy for the information.He didn't ask where the casas, only IF they exist.

Since you're on permanent moderation, it will probably be 3 days before you can respond.

Member #4698
09-20-11, 00:50
I've just come back from AC. I find most of the bar not allowed the girls to be barfined. They just dance, drink at the bar until bar closed. I can only pick up girls at CP. I have to give the money directly to the girl. When will it back to normal?I have not heard any confirmation of what Boshekk is saying. So what gives Boshekk? If the bar girls were really not doing EWR's anymore I think we would have all heard about it by now. And by the way a punter always gives the money directly to the girl (in the morning).

WestCoast1
09-20-11, 01:59
If the bar girls were really not doing EWR's anymore I think we would have all heard about it by now. And by the way a punter always gives the money directly to the girl (in the morning).I was confused by Boshekk also. But now I'm confused by NB. Who gives money directly to barfine girls in the morning? I pay the bar tab to the bar, before I leave the bar (EWR + drinks). I've never paid the girl directly when she leaves. NB, what gives?

Jet69
09-20-11, 02:29
I too just returned from a trip to AC, Cebu, Manila and Subic.

I spent a short 3 nights in AC, but took a lady home each night on a EWR. 1,800 was the fee with a tip usually given in the am Best I took was from carousel (spell). I am picky, no fatty's and no fuglies.

Perimeter was disappointing as hell for me. The few that were doable were busy or drink sluts.

As far as no EWR's, did not hear of this when I was out in the bars. The high end bars were fun, but the ladies are way too difficult to have eye contact with, as they are too far away.

Don't hesitate. Just go.

Member #4698
09-20-11, 02:37
Now I'm confused by NB. Who gives money directly to barfine girls in the morning? I pay the bar tab to the bar, before I leave the bar (EWR + drinks). I've never paid the girl directly when she leaves. NB, what gives?I don't know. Temporary Alzheimer's or some other form of induced dementia I guess. I think I better lay off the heavy narcotics for a while (joke). No, it was a really dumb error. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote it. Sorry.

LovingAsia
09-20-11, 02:53
I am having a great time in AC.

It's my 1st visit. Months beforehand I had been following the threads on this forum, and read about the raids back then. Reading about the raids put questions into my mind about the visit, but being here, those fears were a little misplaced. I witnessed the raids on Fields a few days ago. It was quite a comical sight with the police rushing down the streets with guns almost as if they were in a film. The police didn't target bystanders.

As for barfining, a number of bars do not use the word "bar fine". So if you ask to barfine a girl they may say it isn't possible. You want to ask how much it costs to take a girl out of the bar, or something to that effect. They will say you have to buy so many drinks that equates to the bar fine.

I far more enjoy the bars on Perimeter Road for a number of reasons: less touristy; higher chance to chat to dancers before deciding whether to buy them a ladies drink; less smokey atmosphere; cheaper; still hot girls there; number of blow job bars. The bars on Perimeter start earlier at around midday and carry on to about 10-11pm. It's about 15-20mins walk from Fields to bars around Sunset Gardens.

I have met loads of people from the States, Australia and the UK living in AC. I have found them to be so helpful and friendly. Go to Margaritta's or Kokomo's and have a chat with them.

Wt Motorman
09-20-11, 05:59
Wow, just read the reports below. Was planning a short visit in 10 days. If things do not improve in a couple days, I may cancel my reservation and stay in Manila or fly to Cebu instead. Is anyone else able to verify that bar fines and such are a no go?I just arrived last night around 10pm and went out around 12am. I don't know what people are talking about but I was able to barfine last night. Not too many mongers out last night but hundreds of girls eager for them to get barfined. I went to angelwitch and some other bar that I can't recall off the top and even the mamasan begged me to barfine someone from her bar.

RasSpewtin
09-20-11, 06:18
I just arrived last night around 10pm and went out around 12am. I don't know what people are talking about but I was able to barfine last night. Not too many mongers out last night but hundreds of girls eager for them to get barfined. I went to angelwitch and some other bar that I can't recall off the top and even the mamasan begged me to barfine someone from her bar.Thanks for the positive tip, Motorman. This sounds more like the AC that I experienced when I was in AC last month. There was some resistance from some of the girls in terms of willingness to be barfined, but that seemed to be just a general trend and had nothing to do with a raid that happened shortly before that trip. My experience is that where there was a will there definitely was a way.

Raz

Key Master
09-20-11, 06:38
Wow, just read the reports below. Was planning a short visit in 10 days. If things do not improve in a couple days, I may cancel my reservation and stay in Manila or fly to Cebu instead. Is anyone else able to verify that bar fines and such are a no go?
I've just come back from AC. I find most of the bar not allowed the girls to be barfined. They just dance, drink at the bar until bar closed. I can only pick up girls at CP. I have to give the money directly to the girl. When will it back to normal?
I just arrived last night around 10pm and went out around 12am. I don't know what people are talking about but I was able to barfine last night. Not too many mongers out last night but hundreds of girls eager for them to get barfined. I went to angelwitch and some other bar that I can't recall off the top and even the mamasan begged me to barfine someone from her bar.I think Boshekk's English is that good. My interpretation is that some bars were not letting him bar fine. You have to read what he said carefully. After a raid, the bars get a little more careful about the bar fining and may say no or not let it be so obvious. Not going to get into details here. I wouldn't let this report stop you from going. I'm pretty sure that you can do your thing there. As another report said, you can still meet the women outside, maybe just in other ways or terms if not an actual bar fine. You have to be careful here. Not everyone's information is what it seems unfortunately and not talking about him specifically. There are always alternatives as you have listed with Manila and Cebu. There have been times I get bored with AC and just get the hell out. It's good to experience the other areas.

WestCoast1
09-20-11, 06:45
If it is a new person, I guess it's harmless. But is it really someone new?Dodochen has two posts. Whatta 'ya want? His ISG photo I'd? Mulder called: he wants his paranoia back.


Sometimes the people asking have never posted before. NEVER.Which is fine. The board is here to help them, too. He doesn't have to write a field report before asking for help. If he's doing nothing but consistently asking for help, and not posting useful info, then he's a pain that anyone can put on ignore. Sometimes our senior members seem to think the board is here mostly for them. Sometimes the expats think its for them. Sometimes the visitors think its for them. Really, its a public board. Anyone can read it, anyone can post, anyone can become a member.


So posting too much detailed information is dangerous to the women and to the bars.Was he asking for girl's details?


I recommend that people be vague when they post.Last year I ewr'd Rxxx from BODY SHOP on REAL street. She agreed to ANAL, PICS, and TEN AM DEPARTURE. I asked (in the bar) if she had a friend who might want to THREESOME from outside BODY SHOP. She said yes. While walking to SEVEN-ELEVEN on FIELDS AVE to grab some snacks, she mentioned ANNA was the other girl. A txt from ANNA confirmed that she was willing to spend the night with us for SIX HUNDRED PESOS. We met up with ANNA just outside CENTRAL PARK HOTEL on GLORIA ST. I then BUTT-F*CKED them both. The next morning I took them to KOKOMOS on FIELDS AVE for breakfast around NINE AM and turned them loose. Fast-forward to a later trip, Rxxx is no longer in BODY SHOP. The waitress says she's in the province. A txt to Rxxx and she's out of the biz. Damn. She txt that ANNA still lives in AC. Shortly ANNA txt saying she's available, and asks for ONE THOUSAND PESOS. It was tempting to ask if she was ok to SIX HUNDRED, but I txt back yes, and if she can bring another girl, FIFTEEN HUNDRED PESOS TOTAL. Some text-dickering occurred, and we settled on EIGHTEEN HUNDRED. Well ANNA then showed up with [DAMMIT-can't-REMEMBER-HER-NAME], who unfortunately was skanky looking. But, a deal is a deal, so I took them both. I turned ANNA every which way but loose, while [DAMMIT] took pics. I did not partake of [DAMMIT]. One of [DAMMIT]'s areolas is considerably larger than the other. All of this was early, about TEN PM, so we went out for drinks at CRYSTAL PALACE and AGASAYA (did I spell that right?) on REAL street, and some bar I don't remember the name of by BLUE NILE, and finally got some PANCIT takeout for the CENTRAL PARK HOTEL. The next morning [DAMMIT] woke up about TEN AM (I was up by SEVEN AM) , but ANNA did not wake up till after ELEVEN AM (that LITTLE BROWN BUTT-F*CK MACHINE sure likes her sleep). I took ANNA and [DAMMIT] to eat at the open-air place on the CORNER of FIELDS / RAYMOND (sports bar and pool tables). I mentioned laundry, and they both pointed across the street at a laundry place on MITCHELL AVE where it splits from FIELDS AVE. I gave them a TWO THOUSAND PESO 'taxi expense' (haha) and sent them on their merry way. I think 'DRUG ADDICT' every time I see [DAMMIT]'s face in my mind. NONE of their pictures are posted.

I'm not quite so cynical.

Soapy Smith
09-20-11, 06:57
Temporary Alzheimer's or some other form of induced dementia I guess. I think I better lay off the heavy narcotics for a while (joke).You have a good excuse. When you first showed up in Fennimore Cooper's novels you were a 70-year old man. Only in his later novels did you become a strapping young warrior-peacemaker. After that age and persona confusion, who the hell wouldn't be suffering from dementia? Or maybe you just drank too much Glimmerglass water.

RasSpewtin
09-20-11, 08:47
One of [DAMMIT]'s areolas is considerably larger than the other. All of this was early, about TEN PM, so we went out for drinks at CRYSTAL PALACE and AGASAYA (did I spell that right?) on REAL street, and some bar I don't remember the name of by BLUE NILE, and finally got some PANCIT takeout for the CENTRAL PARK HOTEL.Thanks, WC:

I needed a good laugh. Great rendition. Even if you do eventually remember [DAMMIT]'s real name, just let the post stand as is.

Cheers;

Raz

Dodochen
09-20-11, 10:08
Ohhhh guys,

First my person:

Yes I am new, shy by comments, young AND can (CURRENTLY) not write reports! Yes I have no mongering experience, I was not in angeles city, in brazil or somethingelse and I come from germany!

BUT I plan to make my first mongering experience.

Second:

Public for read YES! But I have pay for write some stuff.

Now the Background to my Question:

I have read in the past much stuff about the phil. ! In Manila, Cebu, Davao. Could you find Casas, Bars and Freelancer AND so many informations about this!

Ok Bars are enough in angeles, freelancer are dangerous (maybe by the mall not) but a casa? Why not?

I know the rate for bf in the perimeter road, the price for st in the blow row, the benefits of phil / angeles vs. Thai vs. Indo. And and and!

But you can not find informations about a casa in angeles city. YES angeles city with thousend of girls, the sex centre in the phils.

Sorry for my bad english und (maybe) for the stupid question of a stupid noob.

Rubberyman
09-20-11, 11:07
Ohhhh guys,

But you can not find informations about a casa in angeles city. YES angeles city with thousend of girls, the sex centre in the phils.

Sorry for my bad english und (maybe) for the stupid question of a stupid noob.Hi

I think the reason you will not find any info about casas in AC is that there are none. Either that, or they are so exclusive that even regular members have difficulty in locating them. There are massage places and one incall place I think, but I would hesitate to class them as 'casas'. AC really is not that kind of place.

Don't worry about the english. Some native speakers don't do all that well either.

X Man
09-20-11, 11:53
The only inconvenience I feel about moderation is that I can't immediately revise or correct spellings in my posts. Regular readers know what the thread was.

Nevertheless, point taken. I assumed that asking if, is followed by WHERE. I think there is some risk in answering WHERE, but of course there is also the option of membership and using the private mailbox.


He didn't ask where the casas, only IF they exist.

Since you're on permanent moderation, it will probably be 3 days before you can respond.

X Man
09-20-11, 12:15
Thank you for this post. It shows me that you are not a Filipino. Not someone who has some ulterior motive to harass people in the biz. Your English is consistent with a German (very good) , not a Filipino (often very good too). So, I owe you and the board members an apology. I'm sorry for being rude to a newcomer and I'm sorry for sidetracking the AC thread (which seems to be in perpetual sidetrack anywho). I guess CS was right when he called me "paranoid".

Dodochen's post indicates that he's done his homework, so I hope he enjoys his trip. It will be beyond all your expectations.

Westpac has posted a few comments which take me to task, which I should respond to, but maybe by PM.


Ohhhh guys,

First my person:

Yes I am new, shy by comments, young AND can (CURRENTLY) not write reports! Yes I have no mongering experience, I was not in angeles city, in brazil or somethingelse and I come from germany!

BUT I plan to make my first mongering experience.

Second:

Public for read YES! But I have pay for write some stuff.

Now the Background to my Question:

I have read in the past much stuff about the phil. ! In Manila, Cebu, Davao. Could you find Casas, Bars and Freelancer AND so many informations about this!

Ok Bars are enough in angeles, freelancer are dangerous (maybe by the mall not) but a casa? Why not?

I know the rate for bf in the perimeter road, the price for st in the blow row, the benefits of phil / angeles vs. Thai vs. Indo. And and and!

But you can not find informations about a casa in angeles city. YES angeles city with thousend of girls, the sex centre in the phils.

Sorry for my bad english und (maybe) for the stupid question of a stupid noob.

Fast Eddie 48
09-20-11, 18:47
Ohhhh guys,

First my person:

Yes I am new, shy by comments, young AND can (CURRENTLY) not write reports! Yes I have no mongering experience, I was not in angeles city, in brazil or somethingelse and I come from germany!

BUT I plan to make my first mongering experience.

Second:

Public for read YES! But I have pay for write some stuff.

Now the Background to my Question:To Dodochen,

I been to Casa in Manila, cebu and bohol but never been to any in AC and that don't mean there are none around, with all the girlie and BJ bar in AC you don't need to go look for

Casa or massage place, so if a newbie ask for casa that never been to Pi or AC is not a dumb question he just don't know any better.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
09-20-11, 23:42
I like to ask all the ISG member in AC right now with all the crack down and bar will not let the girl to be barfined, did anyone try to work out a deal with the girl have them meet you at your hotel or disco after the bar closed, I am sure most girl will do LT for 1200 peso and they get to keep all of it and you don't paid them until the morning so no runner win win for everyone.

Fast Eddie 48

Irony Monger
09-21-11, 03:57
I just arrived last night around 10pm and went out around 12am. I don't know what people are talking about but I was able to barfine last night. Not too many mongers out last night but hundreds of girls eager for them to get barfined. I went to angelwitch and some other bar that I can't recall off the top and even the mamasan begged me to barfine someone from her bar.Thanks Wt Motorman. That leaves me cautiously optimistic that things are either back to normal, or will be very shortly.

Wt Motorman
09-21-11, 05:20
Thanks Wt Motorman. That leaves me cautiously optimistic that things are either back to normal, or will be very shortly.Although I didn't go out last night. Jet lag finally caught up with me as I was drinking heavy on arrival night and only got 3 hours sleep after barfining, I saw about 4 different guys in the Lewis Clark eating breakfast with their beautiful barfines. One guy had 2 girls. Things seem to be normal. For all those planning on coming, no worries. There are tons of bars. If one bar does not barfine, there will be another one that does. I will update tomorrow morning after I wake from my drunken stupor.

Five10
09-21-11, 06:16
Where do you buy those shoes?

Thanks

WestCoast1
09-21-11, 14:41
Thanks, WC:

I needed a good laugh. Great rendition. Even if you do eventually remember [DAMMIT]'s real name, just let the post stand as is.

Cheers;

RazJust havin' some fun.

HenryV
09-21-11, 21:14
Having been chastised many times on other boards for asking what seems like obvious questions I would only say don't worry about it, mainly because you are a newbie seeking info.

I think some people see your question in this manner. Looking for a casa in AC is like limiting your selection at a smorgesbord to a ham sandwich.


Ohhhh guys,

First my person:

Yes I am new, shy by comments, young AND can (CURRENTLY) not write reports! Yes I have no mongering experience, I was not in angeles city, in brazil or somethingelse and I come from germany!

BUT I plan to make my first mongering experience.

Second:

Public for read YES! But I have pay for write some stuff.

Now the Background to my Question:

I have read in the past much stuff about the phil. ! In Manila, Cebu, Davao. Could you find Casas, Bars and Freelancer AND so many informations about this!

Ok Bars are enough in angeles, freelancer are dangerous (maybe by the mall not) but a casa? Why not?

I know the rate for bf in the perimeter road, the price for st in the blow row, the benefits of phil / angeles vs. Thai vs. Indo. And and and!

But you can not find informations about a casa in angeles city. YES angeles city with thousend of girls, the sex centre in the phils.

Sorry for my bad english und (maybe) for the stupid question of a stupid noob.

Mr Giggity Goo
09-22-11, 01:04
Limiting your selection at a smorgesbord to a ham sandwich.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thats awesome. Very well put

Five10
09-22-11, 01:09
You know of any?

Thanks

Ed Rome
09-22-11, 07:55
I agree I made the mistake, first girl went smoothly I never called her back, three other girls have been knocking on my hotel door early in the morning, waiting for me around corners. I mean knocking and not leaving, first girl came 3 am last night, kept knocking, this morning two more episodes of the same shit. Claiming I must pay for their transportation home if I don't want her to stay.I never had any trouble with AC girls on the net. I met my share on Tagged and DIA. NO problems at all and I rented a house in the area. No crazy knocking at all hours, showing up unannounced, etc. I hope my luck continues when I go back in March 2012.

Ed Rome
09-22-11, 08:04
That's nothing.

Over the 3 day Labor day holiday in NYC. 23 shootings and 8 dead.

3 shootings happened on labor day on the parade route of the east indies parade in Brooklyn, despite having several thousand cops manning the parade route.

And this being NYC with the heighten security with upcoming 9/11 and NYC the tourist capital of America.

Crime in the PI seems tame compare to home.

Know this is a bit off topic but wanted everyone to have a comparison between "safe" Industrial world and the 3rd world.As a New Yorker I could not agree more. Seems violence on Labor Day weekend was everywhere in NYC. To me crime in Phils is nothing. I never while there felt not safe doing anything. Maybe its because I am a New Yorker and being used to whats here it takes alot to scare me. Most I ever worry about in Phils is not getting lost on the streets in Angeles or getting jerked by a cab or trike driver.

RasSpewtin
09-22-11, 09:09
You know of any?

ThanksI believe that the Wild Orchid Resort has some rooms with large mirrors, as I recall from a video I saw of the place a while ago. You may also want to check the Lewis Grand or ABC Hotel by giving them a quick call. They also have some posh rooms from what I have seen in advertisements. I can tell you that the Pacific Breeze does not have large mirrors in the rooms, although I have never tried their Jacuzzi rooms.

Raz

WestCoast1
09-22-11, 14:33
You know of any?

ThanksSwiss Chalet, room #1, bottom floor, turn left just outside of the office door towards Central Park. Its a small room, with a wooden-canopied bed. Under the canopy is a large mirror. Unfortunately, there is not much light in the room, and with the canopy its hard to doggy.

Sammon
09-22-11, 14:47
You know of any?

ThanksApartelle royal has a big mirror on the wall beside the bed. The girls like to look while having sex. These girls are programmed to look in the mirror even while in the bar dancing.

The room is big and has window air-con which is ok. Only thing I did not like is the smelly bedspread and thin sheets. Maybe they changed those by now. Noise is a factor because it is on top of a club and others are nearbye.

LoveAsianWhores
09-23-11, 02:43
The USA ambassador to the Philppines stated publically yesterday that "40% of male tourists to the Philippines are sex tourists, and this is unnaceptable". So, it took the American ambassador to finally say what had to be said. This means of course that 6 of 10 male tourists are NOT banging the local girls. This is not just unnacceptable, but it is shocking.

Will Aquino do something about this, like promoting Angeles or EDSA center? I doubt it. They will thank the ambassador, and do nothing, like always. And the ambassador even went on to say that those guilty of this crime should be prosecuted. But again, I doubt we'll see any prosecutions of tourism officials for failure to promote the sex industry.

The Philippine government has been told, and they have only themselves to blame if they do nothing.

But the bright side is that with 60% passing on the girls, it leaves more for us!

Dflostrife
09-23-11, 04:25
I never had any trouble with AC girls on the net. I met my share on Tagged and DIA. NO problems at all and I rented a house in the area. No crazy knocking at all hours, showing up unannounced, etc. I hope my luck continues when I go back in March 2012.I sure haven't had any problems either, by the way what's DIA I haven't heard of that one I use tagged and believe it or not Craigslist.

FreebieFan
09-23-11, 06:32
The USA ambassador to the Philppines stated publically yesterday that "40% of male tourists to the Philippines are sex tourists, and this is unnaceptable". So, it took the American ambassador to finally say what had to be said. This means of course that 6 of 10 male tourists are NOT banging the local girls. This is not just unnacceptable, but it is shocking.

Will Aquino do something about this, like promoting Angeles or EDSA center? I doubt it. They will thank the ambassador, and do nothing, like always. And the ambassador even went on to say that those guilty of this crime should be prosecuted. But again, I doubt we'll see any prosecutions of tourism officials for failure to promote the sex industry.

The Philippine government has been told, and they have only themselves to blame if they do nothing.

But the bright side is that with 60% passing on the girls, it leaves more for us!He's a year or so into his term here. Regularly tries to make a big noise by saying ther right thing. He knows he will get press bites for saying what he does. If you have noticed, US rotates its ambassadors fairly regularly through the Manila posting. As this one currently is quite loud, he will surely offend someone important sooner or later and then will be yanked to Ulan Bator or wherever.

Socker
09-23-11, 08:48
The USA ambassador to the Philppines stated publically yesterday that "40% of male tourists to the Philippines are sex tourists, and this is unnaceptable". So, it took the American ambassador to finally say what had to be said. This means of course that 6 of 10 male tourists are NOT banging the local girls. This is not just unnacceptable, but it is shocking.

Will Aquino do something about this, like promoting Angeles or EDSA center? I doubt it. They will thank the ambassador, and do nothing, like always. And the ambassador even went on to say that those guilty of this crime should be prosecuted. But again, I doubt we'll see any prosecutions of tourism officials for failure to promote the sex industry.

The Philippine government has been told, and they have only themselves to blame if they do nothing.

But the bright side is that with 60% passing on the girls, it leaves more for us!You make me sick.

Pedro Chilli
09-23-11, 09:27
Sure nothing that hasnt been said before but here goes.

First trip observations: hotels overpriced by sea standards; hundreds of attractive available girls (unlike the old dragons in Pattaya) ; all dance in the gogos with their bikinis on? ; can converse easily with girls if native english speaker; all girls gave good service (except 1 who left after 1 hour after I had paid 1650 barfine at voodoo; the town is small and not much to do except play golf.

All in all I think I prefer the filthy old hags of Pattaya, gogos with chicks sticking their nekkid muff in your face is more enjoyable than 30 or 40 girls dancing badly to crap music with their bikinis on.

Thats all folks

FurryFriend
09-23-11, 09:58
The USA ambassador to the Philppines stated publically yesterday that "40% of male tourists to the Philippines are sex tourists, and this is unnaceptable". So, it took the American ambassador to finally say what had to be said.It's hard to define a "sex tourist". What about the guy who genuinely wishes to visit the Philippines but does some mongering on the side? I don't consider that "sex tourism".

If we count the number of guys who get laid in the Philippines, whether or not he's there solely for that purpose, I'd say the number exceeds 80%. If it's sex-only and nothing else, I'd say it's 15%.

Today's statement from that ambassador shows the kind of relationship America has with the Philippines. Since the Philippines is a receipient of US aid, the ambassador can talk shit about his host and get away with it. He pretty much insulted the Philippines, insinuating the country is too crappy to attract legitimate tourists.

Amjeck
09-23-11, 12:24
hundreds of attractive available girls (unlike the old dragons in Pattaya)Interesting! I've also found that the girls in Pattaya are considerably older now. Would you say that there is a lot of 18-20yo's in AC now?

Sammon
09-23-11, 15:35
the usa ambassador to the philppines stated publically yesterday that "40% of male tourists to the philippines are sex tourists, and this is unnaceptable". so, it took the american ambassador to finally say what had to be said. this means of course that 6 of 10 male tourists are not banging the local girls. this is not just unnacceptable, but it is shocking.

will aquino do something about this, like promoting angeles or edsa center? i doubt it. they will thank the ambassador, and do nothing, like always. and the ambassador even went on to say that those guilty of this crime should be prosecuted. but again, i doubt we'll see any prosecutions of tourism officials for failure to promote the sex industry.

the philippine government has been told, and they have only themselves to blame if they do nothing.

but the bright side is that with 60% passing on the girls, it leaves more for us!only thing usa can do is go against **** traffic. having said even here there is plenty of **** girls who are working in sex industry. in countries like phi there is no safety net and government is too poor, corrupt to enforce common laws. there will be nothing done irrespective of what us ambassador says. it is like prohibition here in the 20's. every illegal activity if strictly enforced will go underground. once it goes underground there are more exploitations and more corrupt police than now.

JohnnyO52
09-23-11, 16:55
After reading the thread about the American Ambassador to the P. I, I had to step away from my computer for a little bit. For him to say such a thing is slander and down right despicable. What gives him the right to label us Americans' and Filipino's. I believe he should publicly apologize to both USAresidents and especially the Filipinos. Mr Ambassador, you should keep your mouth shut until you clean up your own back yard. Prostitution is alive and well here in the states and even LEGAL in Nevada. So, it should be okay to engage in prostitution here in America but not abroad? What about p4p in others countries like Russia, Ukraine, England, Italy, France and Germany. And let's not forget Amsterdam where not only is it legal but so are many drugs. Why not say the same of the people of those countries, oh, you'd get in some really serious trouble. They are not 3rd world countries and they would have your a. Just like here in America it is a way for those to support their families and thrive. Unless he plans on supporting all those women in the Philippines he should stay quiet.

Sorry guys. Sometimes we Americans let idiots in in places where intellectuals should be. Everyone have a great day.

JohnnyO52
09-23-11, 16:57
Anyone have the embassy website where I can send a nice little note.

WestCoast1
09-24-11, 04:56
Anyone have the embassy website where I can send a nice little note.Http://manila.usembassy.gov/

Jack Burton
09-24-11, 07:23
I sure haven't had any problems either, by the way what's DIA I haven't heard of that one I use tagged and believe it or not Craigslist.DIA is dateinasia. Com. Can search women by country and age (so a little faster than CL) , but no further search. OTOH, it's free. And many thousands available. And they will write you, unlike crappy US dating sites. But many / most aren't SW, so be honest up front. GFE and long-term both available.

FurryFriend
09-24-11, 10:30
What about p4p in others countries like Russia, Ukraine, England, Italy, France and Germany.I disagree with that ambassador meddling into another country's internal affairs. But if the Philippines accepts US aid, it has to accept (and expect) US criticism. That's just how the world works. According to usaid(dot)gov, the US gave the Philippines $105 million in economic aid last year. Much more was given as military aid.

Besides, that ambassador isn't the ambassador to Russia, Ukraine, England, etc. So naturally, he's not going to talk about sex tourism to those countries.

Ultimately, he was correct in saying that many tourists come to the Philippines with sex on their minds and that it's not the kind of tourism the Philippines should be proud of. But he shouldn't have phrased his comments in such a stinging manner. He also shouldn't have thrown out numbers that he couldn't back up.

MassaCure
09-24-11, 17:57
Yes, if you mentioned in chat you want to meet her, and she spends her own dime to get to you, its a reasonable request on her part that you give her money not only to head home (whether you partake of her or not) , but also her fare there. Many girls have to borrow the money (even if its small) to get a jeep or tryke to get to your location. They have not a single peso in their purse upon arrival. If you don't give her something to get home on, she could be stuck. Even if she gets the date or time wrong when she comes to you, even if you already have another girl in your room and don't want her there, step outside and slip her 100 or 200 to get her home and get rid of her. Otherwise she might end up calling you or knocking on your door incessantly.I didn't speak to them or request for them to come see me, they were at my room the night before, and I told them never to return after paying them more than 2 times their asking price. I ended up paying for their transportation home as well because they wouldn't stop knocking. Even after that they returned again, this time I didn't answer. I switched hotels the next day.

Irony Monger
09-25-11, 04:58
I didn't speak to them or request for them to come see me, they were at my room the night before, and I told them never to return after paying them more than 2 times their asking price. I ended up paying for their transportation home as well because they wouldn't stop knocking. Even after that they returned again, this time I didn't answer. I switched hotels the next day.You should have called security and had them thrown out. In fact they should not have been let in without your permission (unless they were paying guests, which I highly doubt). What hotel was this?

MassaCure
09-25-11, 12:09
You should have called security and had them thrown out. In fact they should not have been let in without your permission (unless they were paying guests, which I highly doubt). What hotel was this?L Tinio Inn behind Insomnia bar only has security at night and hes usually sleep. I guess I could have requested he throw them out, maybe I was too nice to them.

WestCoast1
09-25-11, 15:11
L Tinio Inn behind Insomnia bar only has security at night and hes usually sleep. I guess I could have requested he throw them out, maybe I was too nice to them.That's his job. They want you to come back. Just phone the front desk, tell them there is a guest causing a problem in your room.

DraeJaguar
09-25-11, 16:29
Ok I'm traveling to the Philipplines Angeles city here are my questions.

1. Whats a good hotel to stay in where its nice but lively?

2. From the Airport in Manila to Angeles whats a good taxi service and the cost?

3. How do the females work out far as cost in USD and how long they stay?

4. Can you get the GFE here.

And let me know about any other first times visiting here that I should experience or do. I am single an likes to party and the females LOL? I there for only 5-6 days

Thanks

Ekspat
09-25-11, 16:44
Just phone the front desk, tell them there is a guest causing a problem in your room.Tinio Inn doesn't have a front desk at night. The office they have, is open just somewhat 10am-5pm.

Ekspat
09-25-11, 16:59
here are my questions.Here my answer: RTFF

Greek Niko
09-25-11, 17:33
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Capt Munch
09-25-11, 17:53
Ok I'm traveling to the Philipplines Angeles city here are my questions.

1. Whats a good hotel to stay in where its nice but lively?

2. From the Airport in Manila to Angeles whats a good taxi service and the cost?

3. How do the females work out far as cost in USD and how long they stay?

4. Can you get the GFE here.

And let me know about any other first times visiting here that I should experience or do. I am single an likes to party and the females LOL? I there for only 5-6 days

ThanksI know I have a wealth of posts here (3 with this one.) but.

So as not to confuse Dreajaquar to much. He may not have found all the acronyms used here. RTFF = R (ead) T (he) F (ucking) F (orum)

What Ekspat was suggesting, Draejaguar was exactlty that. All these questions and MORE are answered here at one time or another.

1. At my hotel (affordable + good location) some of the guests used to have pool parties at all hours of the morning (midnight to 6 am) but apparently some of the other guests complained. Now they have a sign restricting those said "Pool Parties" to before midnight. Therefore I am not sure that this hotel will meet your requirements. I, on the other hand, enjoy more peaceful nights as I am usually tucked in next to my LBFM at those times.

Usually it would be helpful if (after you have read the Forum) to suggest a couple of hotels that you think will fit your STATED BUDGET. And ask some questions about those hotels, since hotels can range from under $ 20 (pensions) to well over $ 100 per night.

2. I usually arrange to have my regular driver meet me in Manila. Cost = 2, 500 pisos. Seems about the going price. The subject is covered here in the Forum. There are a couple of services that some of the regulars use and some of the higher end hotels have cars and drivers as well.

3. It has been about 2 months since I was there. Reportably prices are on the increase (especially on Field Avenue) I think the Philopino business model is. If there is less business. Raise the prices to make up for it. (though this is not an exclusive business model just used in the Philippines) The Pasha Group of bars seemed to leading the effort, but it may be a standard now.

4."Can you get the GFE here.". I usually do, but not always. I think it will depend on your behavior. I usually try to treat all the cute filipinas like they are my GF. Ergo. They reward me with the experience I desire. Thanks.

Good Luck.

Barney Rubber
09-25-11, 18:17
Ok I'm traveling to the Philipplines Angeles city here are my questions.

4. Can you get the GFE here.

ThanksBut this HAS TO BE THE EPITOME OF LAZINESS!"Can I get a GFE in AC? JEEEZ!

Streetlooker
09-25-11, 20:06
Some people like to fuck around with others by asking stupid questions. BY responding to them with a stupid answer you only validate them. Actually its getting tougher to get a GFE in Angeles City so the question is not so dumb just how it was asked was. YES you can get a GFE in AC but it will cost you a bit more and you have to do more work to acquire it cause a lot of girls have taken the Business approach to there jobs and only go short time OR give back very limited basic services unless you pay more for there time. With the passing of the old timers who have kept the perimeter bars has close to the old days has possible the face of mongering in AC is changing and the more huge mega bars that go in the more the old time bars will close and it will take more money to get you a girl

Busdood
09-25-11, 20:41
A GFE in AC is earned and best when a girl chooses you, not you choosing her. Paying for it is secondary. Just be yourself (or the best version you can put forward) , and any man of any shape or age can find a "GFE" here. Give her a good tip (but not too much) , treat her nice (but don't kiss her ass) , go for variety (but make sure you are always at peak energy, so you can fuck her good and keep her wanting more). Just remember a bargirl is NOT your GF and she is using you for your money just as much as you are using her for her pussy. Notice the duplicitous theme in this post. And always keep that thought in the front of your mind with any interaction you have in this country as a noob. You will acclimate and adjust in time (it took me about 6 weeks spread over 2 trips and I know I will feel very "green" again next time I go back)

Also get away from AC. If you want horz every night, shuttle between there and makati. Also check out the rest of the country, it's beautiful.

Jbiz979
09-25-11, 21:04
Ok I'm traveling to the Philipplines Angeles city here are my questions.

1. Whats a good hotel to stay in where its nice but lively?

2. From the Airport in Manila to Angeles whats a good taxi service and the cost?

3. How do the females work out far as cost in USD and how long they stay?

4. Can you get the GFE here.

And let me know about any other first times visiting here that I should experience or do. I am single an likes to party and the females LOL? I there for only 5-6 days

1) Best hotel ABC.

2) 3500-5000 depends on when you go, time and day is a factor.

3) 1500-3000 is the going rate for short time or long depends on how attractive the girl is.

4) It's possible but your only there for a week, I would have suggested you use a dating site a month in advance of your trip if you want a true GFE but its certainly possible just depends on the chemistry.

ThanksSome of the senior members are a little grumpy about these questions so don't take it personal. LOL

WestCoast1
09-25-11, 22:42
Tinio Inn doesn't have a front desk at night. The office they have, is open just somewhat 10am-5pm.I'm guessing its a bottom-end hotel. The price one pays for being even cheaper than myself.

Poopbunny
09-26-11, 01:55
1. I have only ever stayed at Lewis Grand. But ABC, Wild Orchid, Pacific Breeze and Orchid Inn rates quite highly here at some point or another. Holiday Inn is the only international grade hotel but IMO too far away. I am giving Fields Plaza Suites a try, it appears more upmarket but does not have a pool and restaurant.

2. From NAIA, I have only used http://www.margarita-station.com/airport.html For P2600 (was 2400 last year). After 3 missed pickups from DMIA by Lewis Grand I could no longer rely on them.

3. Bar's EWR fee P1500 - P3000 + Tip for Trike P300-P500 (P1000 if you think she could be a runner up for your future wife). No Trike Tip if she does not stay overnight. Usually they will stay until late morning, they are notorious sleeping beauties. Much longer if they really like you. They earn about half of the EWR and any drinks you buy them, sometimes a little less. If they only order 1 single (non expensive) lady drink, I tip them an extra P200 and tell them why. (NOTE: Manila is quite different where the girl keeps none of the EWR and the LT tip starts from about P2000 - P6000).

4. GFE is more probable in Philippines than most other countries.


Ok I'm traveling to the Philipplines Angeles city here are my questions.

1. Whats a good hotel to stay in where its nice but lively?

2. From the Airport in Manila to Angeles whats a good taxi service and the cost?

3. How do the females work out far as cost in USD and how long they stay?

4. Can you get the GFE here.

And let me know about any other first times visiting here that I should experience or do. I am single an likes to party and the females LOL? I there for only 5-6 days

Thanks

Irony Monger
09-26-11, 04:09
On my one previous brief trip to AC, I never did get a chance to see one of the body painting shows. I know the Atlantis advertises them for Thursdays at 9pm, but alas I will be arriving about 3 hours late for that, but will be around Fri, Sat, and Sun. Any clubs have body painting shows on those days? Preferably a club that allows pictures.

Poopbunny
09-26-11, 05:14
On my one previous brief trip to AC, I never did get a chance to see one of the body painting shows. I know the Atlantis advertises them for Thursdays at 9pm, but alas I will be arriving about 3 hours late for that, but will be around Fri, Sat, and Sun. Any clubs have body painting shows on those days? Preferably a club that allows pictures.Crystal Palace had it, not sure if they still do.

Oddly the regular price girl I wanted (P1500 or something) without the body paint, became P3000 with the body paint.

She looked better without the paint.

Greek Niko
09-26-11, 06:13
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Hi,

Any site with a forum in English.

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