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The ATM limits on most Philippino banks is 10K pesos.Depends on the bank I believe. I'm with HSBC and the limit for one shot is 40k. Daily limit is 150k.
Additionally the bank waived the fee in case I use another banks ATM.
No ad intended, but I'm quite pleased with HSBC.
Depends on the bank I believe. I'm with HSBC and the limit for one shot is 40k. Daily limit is 150k.
Additionally the bank waived the fee in case I use another banks ATM.
No ad intended, but I'm quite pleased with HSBC.Is your HSBC located in Phils or another country? If in another country, does that change the rules of the game?
Is your HSBC located in Phils or another country? If in another country, does that change the rules of the game?HSBC is headquartered in the UK; it is listed in the London Stock Exchange.
There are HSBC banks in many countries around the world, including the Philippines. I don't believe there are any HSBC ATMs in Angeles.
There are possible fees your bank might charge. There are ATM fees that the local ATM might charge (especially if you are not part of the ATM's bank).
Even if your bank doesn't charge you a fee (i.e. waives all fees) , the local ATM might charge you a fee. Only a few banks will REFUND you the local ATM fee; does HSBC refund the ATM fees? If so, then it is a good bank.
HSBC is headquartered in the UK; it is listed in the London Stock Exchange.
There are HSBC banks in many countries around the world, including the Philippines. I don't believe there are any HSBC ATMs in Angeles.HSBC (Philippines) , though part of the international conglomerate network, is nevertheless a particular Philippines entity. It adheres to Philippines banking rules & regulations.
I have several HSBC accounts (PHP, AUD, USD) all opened here in Philippines. Their specific rules regarding limits to borrowing, limits for credit charges etc are determined in the Philippines. They have their own local website with the Philippines regulations listed there.
I have a ceiling for credit charges (VISA) that I am not permitted to exceed unless I pay off the balance. All bank fees are waived for me (including international ATM fees) because I deposit my whole-of-pay cheque directly into my account (this was a carrot dangled for me in order to get my personal account and that of my contractor).
I suggest that you check your local rules as particular benefits that you enjoy in your own country may not always hold here if you open a local account.
Nice report stud.
Bigga, Ted does not have a membership either. Notice, he posted a report. Get thee busy.Hi Westcoast,
Thank you for your reply and sorry about the membership thing. I will definitely post up my experience once I have them. At the moment, I am still new and do not have any experience to post about. Anyway I do understand what you are saying, and I will definitely sign up as a member once I get my first pay check.
I am planning to go to for a holiday in June and just trying to get info on the different spots in Asia. For some reason I am inclined towards Philippines.
Once again I do appreciate your response. With an all inclusive price, Philippines does seem to be giving Thailand a run for its money.
Cheers
FreebieFan
02-21-12, 03:54
Depends on the bank I believe. I'm with HSBC and the limit for one shot is 40k. Daily limit is 150k.
Additionally the bank waived the fee in case I use another banks ATM.
No ad intended, but I'm quite pleased with HSBC.Me too as the internet banking works great (even tho we need 3 passwords). Other day a family member was making a large transaction with a supplementary card, and before they could complete it, HSBC contacted me to ask if iwas ok with the transaction. Thats safety!
HSBC though, despite being touted as a global bank is basically a collection of country franchises all reporting to the London HQ. Each countries operation is separate from another, so you could be Premier account holder in HSBC HK but wouldn't get you any benefits in HSBC Malaysia for instance. Hope all well Ekspat!
Just one more clarification, is the exchange rate at the airport pretty good or is it better to go into town to exchange? I will probably just bring a several hundred dollars in USA that I can exchange and then use the ATM on an "as needed" basis.The currency exchange for cash at pretty much all airports is terrible and you should only exchange enough cash to pay for a cab to your hotel. ATMs at the airport use the same exchange rate as all other ATMS (in my experience) of the same type so are good to use. However, you will likely only get large denomination bills which could be a problem with the taxi driver.
Is your HSBC located in Phils or another country? If in another country, does that change the rules of the game?Not too sure about the rules. I have Premier accounts in Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Hongkong, with different currencies, AUD, HKD and MYR. In every country the same benefits.
Greenbud, there is no fee at all, so no refund. When I withdraw 30, 000ps at any ATM in AC, I get 30k from the machine and my account is charged with exactly 30k. Not a single ps more.
Hi FF! Everything alright, still mainly in MY, just had a nice game of golf with some Koreans here. Why not get a device? IMO more safe than 3 passwords which are actually only 2 of them.
Cheers!
One Eyed Man
02-21-12, 12:17
Is your HSBC located in Phils or another country? If in another country, does that change the rules of the game?I have a so-called Internet account (in the USA) with HSBC, which costs me $3 a month. It's free to transfer in money from another account, and of course, using their ATMs in all countries is free.
Fellows.
How is Easter in AC. Any thing different and / or interesting in ACI have never been there during easter. But judging by my vists during Christmas business as usual with plenty of girls available. Most girls I talk to say they dread going home expecially during holidays because their family expects them to foot the bill for food, drinks, presents etc for all their lazy immediate and extended family. Just by working in AC they are considered wealthy by their folks it seems.
Ofcourse lot has to do with these girls boasting, buying expensive items like cell phones, dresses and jewellery whenever they have money. Lucky few will get it from their generous benefactors.
I have two mortgages and lots of investments at BofA so I don't have to pay any fees when I travel. I know they have partner banks all over the world like PNB, Scotia, and China Construction Bank to name a few but I can't find a partner of there's in Angeles. Just one more clarification, is the exchange rate at the airport pretty good or is it better to go into town to exchange? I will probably just bring a several hundred dollars in USA that I can exchange and then use the ATM on an "as needed" basis.Some ATM's don't really work correctly there, BDM I find to be among the worst. On the other hand, other banks, like RSC, BPI, etc, let you take out whatever your US bank imposed max is. I took out enough to pay for a motor scooter in 2 transactions. 20k php each, and still hadn't hit the 1K US limit.
Internet banking as another put it is great if you can work that. Otherwise, I like using Xoom to transfer the money ahead of my trip. It's easy to pick it up at any L Hullier or participating bank.
Thanks. Appreciate the information. I have been to AC before but it's been a couple years and I just couldn't remember. I have heard of Xoom but never used it. I might give that a try. If I can get out 1k USD that should be enough for the 7 days I'll be there. Thanks again.Xoom and Western Union make money not only by their transaction fees but also by giving you a poor exchange rate, at least a peso shortchanged on each dollar. I use Xoom to send money to girls but never to myself. Why not carry cash? Is it that dangerous? In my five trips in last one year, I have always taken cash without a glitch.
Pinga
Xoom and Western Union make money not only by their transaction fees but also by giving you a poor exchange rate, at least a peso shortchanged on each dollar. I use Xoom to send money to girls but never to myself. Why not carry cash? Is it that dangerous? In my five trips in last one year, I have always taken cash without a glitch.
PingaActually when you send money by WU you can ask them to pay out in USD rather than pesos. This way the girl can go look for the best exchange rate. There are some businessmen who give better than the official rate.
Ofcourse when I go to Phi, I always take cash. Only rarely I have used ATM.
FreebieFan
02-23-12, 02:14
Hi FF! Everything alright, still mainly in MY, just had a nice game of golf with some Koreans here. Why not get a device? IMO more safe than 3 passwords which are actually only 2 of them.
Cheers!I have the device, I guess I meant including the device theres 3 passwords.
When I travel I usually have a couple hundred USD on me and then use the ATM machines to get money out on as "as needed" basis. With my Bank of AMerica card I can use any of their partner banks around the world with no fees at all and at the current exchange rate. However, BofA does not have a partner bank in Angeles City so I will have to exchange money or use the ATM and pay a fee to do so. That's when you have to determine which is the cheapest way to get peso's. If I bring USD I will still have to exchange that to peso's which there will be a fee. If I use an ATM there will be a fee. I checked Xoom last night and they have a $5. 99 fee for the transfer and they give you 41. 75 peso's per USD which is 1. 00 peso less then the current exchange rate. I found that it is usually never a good idea to carry lots of cash on you anywhere you go especially in 3rd world countries. I travel to a lot of 3rd world countries for work. I know when I was recently in Dominican Republic I just took my USD in the bank and exchanged them at the current rates and no fees at all. Every countries a little different. I just need to find out the least expensive way to convert.I have Bank of America, and I am not aware of any ATM in PI, which can be used with out fees, Can you let me know which ATM in PI doesn't charge fees for BOA cards / accounts
I have Bank of America, and I am not aware of any ATM in PI, which can be used with out fees, Can you let me know which ATM in PI doesn't charge fees for BOA cards / accountsThe citibank ATM on MacArthur Hwy (across the casino) didn't charge my debit card the 300 peso fee. Only one I know of in Angeles. Although, I'm not sure if my Charles Schwab Bank is part of Citi's network (website doesn't mention it), so the previous info is not 100% verified.
I think some people might be getting confused on the "fees". There are 2 types of fees; the fee that your own bank might charge you (if any) , and the 300 peso fee that the ATM will charge you (if your card is not a member of that ATM's network).
The 300 ATM pesos fee will NOT be reflected on your bank statement. ONLY way to tell is to calculate the rate you got from the ATM. If you get the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) , then the ATM didn't charge you the 300 peso. If you got a rate below the buy rate, then they charged you the 300 peso fee.
Example: If you take out the maximum of 10K pesos, divide 10,000 and 10,300 by the amount you were charged, and compare it to the official rate. Then you should be able to tell whether or not you were charged the 300 peso fee.
I agree with the posters bellow that airport foreign exchanges throught out the world tend to be less competative however this is NOT the case in AC at least if you are staying in the mongoring areas. On 3 occations now (most recently Monday 13, feb) I got the best exchange rate at the airport. I exchanged AUD 500 at 45 peso to the dollar. The same day the rate at the ABC Hotel was 42. 9 and 3 other places around fields were in the 43-44 peso range. Saturday 18th feb I exchanged once again at 45 peso to the dollar at Clarkton Hotel which by the way had the best exchange rate between LGH and Clarkton, I checked few other places in between. LGH was offering 39 peso that day. ABC the day before offered 42. 5.
Bottom line if you stay in AC and you stay in a better hotel with good security CASH is the best option. Exchange at the airport, put away in the safe in your room. If you intend to hunt for freelancers especially in Manila you don't want too much cash around your room unless its safely tucked away in a safe. I normally take 1-2K cash and use it while in AC then use my cards in manila withdrawing whatever I need in 10 000 peso lots.
Airport is still under construction but it looks small and like many things here another half assed job. 2 airbridges only and I thought Airasia was going to use this as a base and make a go of it like in Thailand and indonesia. From March they have added few flights including boracay and so on so maybe they will for domestic purposes only and have only few international flights, who knows but IMO it should have been build with a view of being manila's second airport at least to the size of cebu.
Places like Kokimos and Margarita station were packed. Seems like something said by a local here few months ago, hotels are doing ok but bars are missing out. Have the trends changed and people come to AC trying to find fun another way rather than do the typical?
Lots of talk about Viagra on the forums so EVERYONE beware a customer passed away Thursday 9th of Feb inside Voodoo. Expat american belived to have a family in Davao suffered a heart attack after overdoasing on vitamin V. At least thats what the bargirls were saying. Maybe a bad batch on the street?
First time in a while I can say I was not impressed with the overall quality of the girls in the bars. I found it harder to find lookers and even though I had planty of opportuties to barfine while my gf was in Dau cooking (LOL, I made her cook for me every day so I can have the days to myself to mongor) I didn't find the 2-3 a day I was hopping for but still found plenty.
Bar that no one talks about here and is WORTH VISITING, my discovery on this trip was MAGIC BAR off perimetar Road. It looks small and lame on the outside BUT its quite big once you get inside with lots of nice girls. It has a disco feel and girls dance near the tables.
Its been a while since I have stayed at LGH (abc was fully booked on Friday) and what can I say. I rang them and they claimed they are fully booked with no rooms available, only to book a room via Agoda at 20% discount. There were 7 rooms available on agoda LOL. Check in was quick about 10 min, room was great, check out was pain in the ass 20-30 min or so what should have been a stright forward 2-3 min check out. Overall nice and pleasent stay.
Mr Enternational
02-23-12, 22:23
I have a so-called Internet account (in the USA) with HSBC, which costs me $3 a month. It's free to transfer in money from another account, and of course, using their ATMs in all countries is free.$3/month? I have had mine for about 8 years and it has always been free. I have the Choice Checking. I opened the account for the express purpose of using the ATMs. Always check your statement though. I used to get charged $1.50 for using the ATM at the bank in Peru. Now it has started charging $2.50.
01/17/2012 CASH WITHDRAWAL CHARGE 01/13 AT HSBC. RED. UNICARD LIMA PER $2.50
They always credit it to me when I call though. Still a hassle.
I still owe McDon a drink -- but the quantity of women in AC proved just too much to let me spend time socializing -- standing up anyway!
After spending a week in AC, I definitely learned the hard way to pay attention to the Posts of our more experienced mongerers. The first tip I read many times but, admittedly now, took for granted was that you should be clear and detailed in what you want with the girls directly. If you want your ass licked then say it, they'll giggle and some will say no but there is no chance you'll end up regretting it. There are always too many girls to choose from so it behooves you to be absolutely clear in what you want and get over the shyness already. However, before delving into the specific's of your evening preferences, there are a couple mundane but -- oh so incredibly important -- questions you should ask your prospective L / T girl.
OK do not laugh at this but you should clarify up front that your girl is not on the 'mensies' at that particular time. If she is, then the best you are going to get is a blow job. The same holds true for the next so obvious but odd clarification for my initial sensibilities. You need to check if your girl is a "cherry girl!" As the name implies, this means a virgin. I actually hooked up with one my first night in AC (Mensies girls the 2nd and 4th so avoid following me; or better yet do since I thin the herd of the less promising ones). I was drunk and horny when I heard 'cherry girl' and I thought it was a joke. After buying her a drink and getting all the right signals, I jumped to the second set of questions for my evening preferences. I asked for anal and she giggled and said she had a virgin ass. When I asked how long she had been working in AC and she said 2 years, so I figured the "cherry girl" was a pun like "tequila girls" or other promotions the bars used so I EWR'd her and brought her back to my hotel, Kokomos (cannot say enough about this great place to play).
She was out of Emotions on Perimeter (a great place with 1400p EWRs) and she was the quintessential hot girl friend. Definitely among the hottest in the bar (about 20 girls that evening) , she rubbed and kissed and tickled me crazy til I said forget my buddies and lets head out. She quickly changed into an equally hot street outfit and wanted to walk to the hotel. She hung on me the whole way taking every opportunity to flirt, rub, and kiss me along the way, often as we past lines of other girls trying to pull me into their bar. By the time we hit my room, I was bursting at the zipper. Clothes started flying, she was incredibly hot grabbing, licking, and then said she should wash me and her. She almost made me cum in the shower but I decided to save it for the bed. She finished washing and came out a little drippy but even hotter (see pic).
She quickly grabbed my cock and started to suck and I initially thought I was in heaven. However after a few nicks with her teeth, I began to realize my girl wasn't talented at oral. So I flipped her over and started to mount her. Amazingly she was very tight. As I'd start to enter her she would shift up higher on the pillows. After a few attempts with her saying I can't, I was as confused as I could be. I rolled over for a second to get my bearings and she began her 'story' which I think was true. She said she had come here to find her husband to be loyal to him and make him happy for his entire life. She explained that at Emotions, many or the regular clients were ex-pats (Australia mostly) who could no longer have sex but still desired the touch of a woman. As a result she kept busy at the club for the past two years making good money providing the services she was. Well. Giving me.
By then, I was tired and ready to burst so we went back to the head job which did not get any better. After several attempts to find a nick free moist environment, I had her lick my balls while I whacked off until I came on her face. She did the perfect porno action licking, and smearing the cum on her face and body. She got up washed and climbed back into bed for the night. In the morning, I tried again and nothing had gotten any better. I cut my losses and saved my morning spunk for the next opportunity. She seemed genuinely sad saying she wanted to stay with me and seemed confused that I was not asking her to stay. I wrote it up as good acting but later int the day, I learned she had called her phone with my phone at some point and began sending me girlfriend notes right out of a high school musical. How she was concerned I wouldn't have wanted her if she had been easy. How she wanted to go all the way with me, and a couple others that I immediately deleted with scenes of fatal attraction flashing through my head.
Luckily, I did not have to go too far from my hotel to have AC redeem itself in the 12 hours I had been there. I walked around the corner from the hotel and down the street to the Tequila Reef cafe which had been recommended by the experts. As I looked out the window of the town waking up, I noticed the "WOW" bar across the street and a pair of nice legs through the doorway. I finished my breakfast and popped across the street to find Darlene among three other girls of average quality and the mamasan Erma. As is my normally beneficial ploy, I flirted with the mamsan saying how I'd save her for later. She really liked that and told Darlene to take good care of me. The 700 S / t fee was great and within a minute we were walking up the stairs to my hotel. Everything was great and exactly what I had wanted.
She finished me, showered and I asked her is she'd like to eat at the hotel. She quietly agreed. On our way down, I asked if I could stop into my friend's room to say Hi. Mainly wanting to show her off, I also knew he was a big fan for two guys on one girl. He immediately asked if that was what we were doing there. Although initially confused, I nudgingly described the situation and amazingly enough, she said she'd be willing to try.
The Cialis kicked in again and we had her rotisserie style and every other way we could think of. She was even willing to try double penetration. We were able to get both our heads in her mouth, but we just weren't athletic enough to find a position that didn't seemed too gay. After another hour, she finished us both off, cleaned up and said she should get back to the bar. I gave her another 500p and she seemed genuinely pleased (and I was hating myself for only offering 500p at first).
Let me end there reiterating the two points worth taking away. 1) be direct and clear with what you want and 2) make sure the girl is truly available. Cherry girls are as real and regular as the mensies so you need to confirm neither of them will be interfering with your wishes outside the bar. I'll post more as time allows but AC is my new favorite place on the planet and I'll be back this Fall.
Ogman
WestCoast1
03-01-12, 01:59
Og, nice descriptive report.
GosiwonBusan
03-02-12, 16:20
I am going to Angeles Apr 8-15, I will be alone, so PM if you want to meet up.
Does any one know any girls who Lactate? Any details of how to meet would be gratefully received.
I am going to Angeles Apr 8-15, I will be alone, so PM if you want to meet up.
Does any one know any girls who Lactate? Any details of how to meet would be gratefully received.If you are stopping over in Manila in Makati, Burgos St there is a girl in the Ring Bar (or something like that, you can't miss it, the midget boxing bar).
In April Anna from La Union should be back in AC, most likely Dirty Duck. Highly recomended but she is a bit of a psyco so watch out. Few Annas in dirty duck but this one wears a necklace with her name on it. She just gave birth so plenty of milk I assume
I am going to Angeles Apr 8-15, I will be alone, so PM if you want to meet up.
Does any one know any girls who Lactate? Any details of how to meet would be gratefully received.Just remember that HIV can be passed through breast milk. (Here is a link from the US Center for Disease control, so this is not just rumor http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/disease/hiv.htm)
Not saying don't do it, just know your risk.
Mr Enternational
03-04-12, 03:59
I will be in AC from tomorrow night until Wednesday morning if anyone is interested to meet up.
I am going to Angeles Apr 8-15, I will be alone, so PM if you want to meet up.
Does any one know any girls who Lactate? Any details of how to meet would be gratefully received.Just back from a week in AC. I would suggest the Perimeter bars; not really my thing, although ran into several voluptuous MILFs who would meet your need.
Hp
I'm currently planning a trip to Angeles City and I'm curious if there are some bars that are comparable to Soi Six, Pattaya in terms of overall price for action. From what I've read it seems perimeter bars are cheaper. Any recommendations? Thanks!
I'm currently planning a trip to Angeles City and I'm curious if there are some bars that are comparable to Soi Six, Pattaya in terms of overall price for action. From what I've read it seems perimeter bars are cheaper. Any recommendations? Thanks!Santos Street is your best bet. 700 pesos for short time in your hotel.
Santos Street is your best bet. 700 pesos for short time in your hotel.Agree, recommend the Horny Toad Bar if you stay in PB. Less than a 5 minute walk.
Hp
Agree, recommend the Horny Toad Bar if you stay in PB. Less than a 5 minute walk.
HpThat's perfect, thanks guys! I'll check out Horney Toad Bar, but what is PB?
Mr Enternational
03-05-12, 12:05
That's perfect, thanks guys! I'll check out Horney Toad Bar, but what is PB?Pacific Breeze Hotel http://www.pacificbreezehotel.com/
Located a block off of Fields so its an excellent location. Highly recommended with great staff and better than average food for AC.
That's perfect, thanks guys! I'll check out Horney Toad Bar, but what is PB?As an FYI, Santos Road is different from Pattaya Soi Six. The bars are like miniature beer gardens, and in the morning not much girls sitting out. It is not like Soi Six where you have all the eye candy paraded before you. That being said, its a great place to have a drink with no pressure from the girls. I found a few gems, and in fact had a short time before I left for the airport. The girls will make sure you know it is short time in the am.
Good luck on your trip,
Hp
Here you go guys. Some cuties from all over the PI.
WestCoast1
03-12-12, 05:14
Here you go guys. Some cuties from all over the PI.5-10, were there supposed to be pics with that post?
WC
Stroker Ace88
03-12-12, 05:41
Here you go guys. Some cuties from all over the PI.
5-10, were there supposed to be pics with that post?If you look closely at his post, I mean real close, get your eyes up sooo close and then touch the screen you can see he posted the pics using braille. JK. *insert big grin smiliey*
BigBalls007
03-12-12, 06:29
Butterfly Rock has been passing out counterfeit 500p pesos to unsuspecting customers. Whenever someone pays with a 1000p note, the change will include a counterfeit 500p note. The NBI has tried to classify the case as a robbery but I believe it is a hit.
Also I know of a guy that barfined a girl from here and the girl done a runner after only 30 minutes in the room.
Be warned.
Fast Eddie 48
03-13-12, 21:47
Butterfly Rock has been passing out counterfeit 500p pesos to unsuspecting customers. Whenever someone pays with a 1000p note, the change will include a counterfeit 500p note. The NBI has tried to classify the case as a robbery but I believe it is a hit.
Also I know of a guy that barfined a girl from here and the girl done a runner after only 30 minutes in the room.
Be warned.To Bigballs007,
There have been increasing counterfeit bill in PI the last 2 yr on 1000 and 500 peso bill so becareful where you change your money don't go with tout you meet at the st of Malate with promise of high rate, I am not sure why Butterfly bar is passing the counterfeit bill with a good chance of getting caught and being closed down.
Philmoney. ********. Com / 2009/01 / fake-500-peso-bill. Html. PhilippinesCached. Similar.
Fast Eddie 48
Also I know of a guy that barfined a girl from here and the girl done a runner after only 30 minutes in the room.
Be warned.[/QUOTE]HMMM. I barfined a girl from Butterfly Rock and she stayed with me for 33 days.
Also I know of a guy that barfined a girl from here and the girl done a runner after only 30 minutes in the room.
Be warned.HMMM. I barfined a girl from Butterfly Rock and she stayed with me for 33 days.[/QUOTE]Same. Never had in issue with the Butterfly Rock bar. Always had good time and its one of those small fun bars that I enjoy. I was there few weeks ago and visited few nights and no probs at all.
BigBalls007
03-15-12, 04:53
HMMM. I barfined a girl from Butterfly Rock and she stayed with me for 33 days.Same. Never had in issue with the Butterfly Rock bar. Always had good time and its one of those small fun bars that I enjoy. I was there few weeks ago and visited few nights and no probs at all.[/QUOTE]This bar is the original wild west bar, ask about its history.
Never had in issue with the Butterfly Rock bar.Neither had I. First report from BB007 and such a blame on a bar, IMO maybe a hidden agenda.
i'm currently planning a trip to angeles city and i'm curious if there are some bars that are comparable to soi six, pattaya in terms of overall price for action. from what i've read it seems perimeter bars are cheaper. any recommendations? thanks!angeles city can be your cheapest destination for sex if do your homework right and stay away from temptations. beware that ac has all kind of temptations like beautifull show girls, glitzy bars beckoning you, waitresses pushing more drinks and girls on you, girls mesmerising you to spend money on them etc.
unless you are willing to spend a lot and have a good time without a care about the money use these special tips. you can still have a good time.
1. stay at moderate hotels. avoid abc and the like paying more than $100 a night. how they survive that much in ac is beyond me.
2. there are many bars on fields ave, santos, perimeter and other small hidden bars. fields ave bars are more expensive. however you can ask the girls to come to your room after work with no barfines.
some do and some do not. those who said no have always showed up in my experience. bars do not like this but they cannot afford to enforce it. it is hard for them to control social life of these girls.
3. there are freelancers on the street as well as at disco. almost all girls who hang around in fields area are fair game. just beware of **** scams and ladyboys.
once again this route is for cheaper option and not everybody can do this. many prefer safer to barfine.
4. there are many small bars with cheaper barfines. girls may not be pretty. in my thinking if the girl is presentable and gives you all the sex (this is the primary reason you came to ac anyway) who cares?
it is not like she is there for keeps. it is like staying in a expensive hotel. irrespective of the time you spent in your room you need to check out after your stay.
5. there are no soi 6 type of beer bars in ac. there are some open air bars but i have not seen many girls there to take. main problem i believe is the bars do not like single girls just sitting there.
without buying something.
6. if you are the drinking type drink in your room before you go out. buy at duty free and keep in room. just go to limiteed number of bars per night. if you want to barfine talk to girl in the presence of mamasan to what services and how long you want the girl to stay.
good luck!
Mudblood84
03-16-12, 14:22
angeles city can be your cheapest destination for sex if do your homework right and stay away from temptations. beware that ac has all kind of temptations like beautifull show girls, glitzy bars beckoning you, waitresses pushing more drinks and girls on you, girls mesmerising you to spend money on them etc.
unless you are willing to spend a lot and have a good time without a care about the money use these special tips. you can still have a good time.
1. stay at moderate hotels. avoid abc and the like paying more than $100 a night. how they survive that much in ac is beyond me.
2. there are many bars on fields ave, santos, perimeter and other small hidden bars. fields ave bars are more expensive. however you can ask the girls to come to your room after work with no barfines.
some do and some do not. those who said no have always showed up in my experience. bars do not like this but they cannot afford to enforce it. it is hard for them to control social life of these girls.
3. there are freelancers on the street as well as at disco. almost all girls who hang around in fields area are fair game. just beware of **** scams and ladyboys.
once again this route is for cheaper option and not everybody can do this. many prefer safer to barfine.
4. there are many small bars with cheaper barfines. girls may not be pretty. in my thinking if the girl is presentable and gives you all the sex (this is the primary reason you came to ac anyway) who cares?
it is not like she is there for keeps. it is like staying in a expensive hotel. irrespective of the time you spent in your room you need to check out after your stay.
5. there are no soi 6 type of beer bars in ac. there are some open air bars but i have not seen many girls there to take. main problem i believe is the bars do not like single girls just sitting there.
without buying something.
6. if you are the drinking type drink in your room before you go out. buy at duty free and keep in room. just go to limiteed number of bars per night. if you want to barfine talk to girl in the presence of mamasan to what services and how long you want the girl to stay.
good luck!thanks for the tips, i've been planning a trip to pi (i have relatives in san fernando) and wanted to chill in ac for a little to see where i grew up when i was little. and definitely have some fun, but at a reasonable price.
IslandMan27
03-22-12, 07:05
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1239118]Great Question Sir L. Here is my list of the the best bars in AC listed in a very informal and subjective way. I hope that other board members will critique this list, add on to it, and vote their own favorite bars. This forum should have a top 20 list of AC bars.
Fields Bars December 2011:
1. Body Shop *
Natty Bumpo, I have enjoyed your postings for a long time. Wanted to chime in and say thanks for your reports and that I enjoy reading them! Had to reply to this post because of your list. I was in AC in June 2011, and I wholeheartedly agree with your Fields Bars list, especially Body Shop. Sure, it's a smaller bar at the end of the road, and most foot traffic would pass it up but Body Shop is where I found my diamond in the rough for the rest of my stay in AC. I went in there one night after having spent 4 days there already, and I barfined a lovely brown skinned girl who I will leave unnamed. She was petite, slim, B cups, about 100lbs. (and she was because I could pick her up in my arms. That was fun.) , nice firm butt on her small frame, and a naturally darker complexion (in comparison to the more envied lighter skinned mixed Chinese blood sisters). I had such good chemistry with her, I barfined her 3 more nights afterwards. Every night we travelled AC (for what it's worth) and she was great company and a great tour guide to the bars on Fields Ave! Sorry, got a bit sentimental there, but I'm glad someone else thinks well of the Body Shop. Or at least, enough to mention it on a list. Not a lot of stunners but I found my diamond that trip and it was truly memorable! No regrets, just wish I had more time in AC.
BTW, I was there for the Miss Pinatubo Bikini Contest. That was fun. A good excuse to go around to different bars for the contest. Seems like those types of contests happen frequently. I also caught a 'beauty pageant' hosted by the group that runs La Pasha. That was interesting. Enjoyed the bikini contest more.
Anyhow, thanks for all the posting Natty! Hope to read more of your adventures in the near future.
Just returned a day or so ago and thought I should put in my 2 cents worth. There is pleanty of talent available from what I could determine. I didn't get to all the places but the ones I did visit had a few worth taking out for the night. A lot of average but average to me might be different to you. The one thing that I was amased about was the traffic of guys around. During the week it was very poor. Walked into Atlantis one night and maybe 6 guys in the whole place. Another bar had 2 guys and one of them was me. Crystal Palace had a few guys and not much, more. The bigger bars seemed to be empty from what they had been.
The weekend seemed to have more western guys on Fields in the evenings and of course more Japanese or Korean guys. But, still not crowded at all. I hear that the managers / owners have decided it is all because of the economy. I won't argue wiith that but I do wonder how increased pricing has not effected the business.
So inconclusion if you can get there and don't mind the price increases it is a good time to go visit.
Dick Hertz
03-24-12, 02:17
I would like to no if anyone can tell me the good and bad about flying into HKG and take Cebu Pacific or SEAir. I want to try it because I can get a good price into HKG and would get into AC around noon. What I need to know is do I need a visa for China if I only have a 3 hour layover. What are the seats like because I am bigger the chinnesse passangers they regularly fly and what is the baggage allowed on the flight because it is a three week trip. Also will it be a pain with the ticket counter, tranfer a new termanal or any other helpful info. I made the trip to MNL many time but that was when Korean Air had a morning flight that I could connect to. Thanks for the help.
Fast Eddie 48
03-24-12, 04:26
I would like to no if anyone can tell me the good and bad about flying into HKG and take Cebu Pacific or SEAir. I want to try it because I can get a good price into HKG and would get into AC around noon. What I need to know is do I need a visa for China if I only have a 3 hour layover. What are the seats like because I am bigger the chinnesse passangers they regularly fly and what is the baggage allowed on the flight because it is a three week trip. Also will it be a pain with the ticket counter, tranfer a new termanal or any other helpful info. I made the trip to MNL many time but that was when Korean Air had a morning flight that I could connect to. Thanks for the help.To Dick.
I fly 2-3 time a yr from HKG or Macau to PI if you don't have any business in HK you can fly to Macau instead fare is cheaper, you can fly cebu pacific to Macau from Manila or Clark Tiger air also fly this route fare for round trip is only about 135 USD, from Macau you can cross the border to Zhu Hai China but you should get your China visa in advanced to avoid delay, it is only a short flight 1hr and 30 min so is not a big deal.
Fast Eddie 48
Chicago directly to Hong Kong is my preferred route. Then its Hong Kong to Manila by PAL. Changing the airlines is actually very easyin HK. Get luggage, etc, and walk over to the PAL desk to get the boarding pass and re-check luggage. This route can also be less expensive than Delta's and its definitely more convenient than Delta's required two stops.
Dick Hertz
03-24-12, 15:58
Thanks for your help but should I pack light because of the weight restriction. I read that a bag can only weight 15k or is it a fee for overwieght bags. My one check bag is under 25k which the major airlines give you.
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-12, 02:40
Thanks for your help but should I pack light because of the weight restriction. I read that a bag can only weight 15k or is it a fee for overwieght bags. My one check bag is under 25k which the major airlines give you.To Dick
I alway travel light just one carry on bag small airline like Air asia or Tiger Air charge you alot for check in Baggage, I fly from US on Cathay stop over in HK or China and left my large Baggage at hotel and then go to other part of Asia and PI for the weekend and return to China on business.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-12, 04:36
Chicago directly to Hong Kong is my preferred route. Then its Hong Kong to Manila by PAL. Changing the airlines is actually very easyin HK. Get luggage, etc, and walk over to the PAL desk to get the boarding pass and re-check luggage. This route can also be less expensive than Delta's and its definitely more convenient than Delta's required two stops.To Slippery.
Cathay Pacific just start flying direct from Chicago to HKG every day and 7 flight a day from the US, they also have 7 flight a day from HKG to Manila and one to Cebu, they offer a speical fare for domestic worker much cheaper than regular fare.
Fast Eddie 48
Sir Lancelot
03-25-12, 18:26
I just got back from three weeks in Philippines and will post reports on the relevant pages soon (Manila, Cebu and Angeles).
At Angeles I barfined girls from Dollshouse, Typhoon, Dragon's Den, Blue Nile, Genesis, Crystal Palace, Pony Tails, Body Shop and Insomnia, including some real beauties. Quite a few of those bars were recommended by you guys (I. E Pony Tails and Body Shop) , so thanks for the excellent suggestions. There are some really great bars in Angeles and top quality girls can easily be found for 1800 or less. I also spent a couple of nights with a pretty young freelancer I found on Fields.
Prices have gone up from my last trip two years ago (the two tier 1800/3000 barfine is now more prevalent) but there are still some excellent value bars around and lots of very pretty girls. I visited every single bar on Fields at least once. Getting info on girls / barfine. Except for maybe four or five because I just ran out of time. I'll post my report soon.
Manfield04
03-25-12, 20:29
Hello, Sir Lancelot,
I'm planning to visit Angeles City this year. It would be nice if you share your recent experience there, especially, hotels, rates, girls, bars, barfines etc.
Thanks in advance
I just got back from three weeks in Philippines. At Angeles I barfined girls from Dollshouse, Typhoon, Dragon's Den, Blue Nile, Genesis, Crystal Palace, Pony Tails, Body Shop and Insomnia, including some real beauties.
Key Master
03-26-12, 07:29
Thanks for your help but should I pack light because of the weight restriction. I read that a bag can only weight 15k or is it a fee for overwieght bags. My one check bag is under 25k which the major airlines give you.Didn't look, but I'm pretty sure they will charge you extra for the extra weight in your luggage. That's the way most airlines handle that situation.
Didn't look, but I'm pretty sure they will charge you extra for the extra weight in your luggage. That's the way most airlines handle that situation.Cebu Pacific, with their cut-price fares, offers you a range of options for baggage when you book online.
Domestic:
Free carry on up to 10kgs.
10 to 15 kgs = 150 php
16 to 20 kgs = 250 php.
21 to 25 kgs = 450 php.
26 to 30 kgs = 700 php.
For International it is slightly different (check the website).
This option is an add-on cost when you book and you know the weight of your bags. It is quite reasonable given that the fares are way below regular rates (on PAL etc).
If you don't pay when you book and rock up to check in with a 20 kg bag then they will really slug you for the 10 overweight kgs.
It makes sense to pay when you book.
I went to HK in December. 2011 and had 10 kgs (free) when I left but paid to bring back 20 kgs when I returned.
It turned out to be very cheap way to travel.
BigBalls007
03-26-12, 09:21
Hello, Sir Lancelot,
I'm planning to visit Angeles City this year. It would be nice if you share your recent experience there, especially, hotels, rates, girls, bars, barfines etc.
Thanks in advanceGirls are unenergetic, except when they do a runner as soon as they can, food is crap, beer is cheap, pickpockets by the dozen between perimeter and fields ave, airport security thieve from your luggage. Thailand welcomes you in a million better ways. Enjoy
Sir Lancelot
03-26-12, 18:27
Hello, Sir Lancelot, I'm planning to visit Angeles City this year. It would be nice if you share your recent experience there, especially, hotels, rates, girls, bars, barfines etc. Thanks in advanceHi. I will be more than happy to provide you with all of this information but it will take a while to write (at the moment I've got thousands of notes on my mobile phone!). I also plan to provide a map of Fields Avenue with info on all of the bars, which I think you might find helpful.
Girls are unenergetic, except when they do a runner as soon as they can, food is crap, beer is cheap, pickpockets by the dozen between perimeter and fields ave, airport security thieve from your luggage. Thailand welcomes you in a million better ways. EnjoyYou've obviously had some bad experiences but I don't agree with some of these observations. Of course there will be some unenergetic girls and I agree that there is more of a short-time mentality now than when I visited two years ago, yet I met some truly stunning girls who stayed all night and provided me with some of the best sex I've ever had. I also don't think you can say a comment like 'pickpockets by the dozen' without elaborating. Perhaps you had something stolen but that doesn't mean that all of those viagra / cigarette sellers are criminals. They're annoying but seemed harmless and I didn't experience one problem. Your final comment about Thailand is interesting. I love Thailand but I think Filipino girls provide a far warmer experience and the gogo bars in Angeles are far cheaper.
Girls are unenergetic, except when they do a runner as soon as they can, food is crap, beer is cheap, pickpockets by the dozen between perimeter and fields ave, airport security thieve from your luggage. Thailand welcomes you in a million better ways. EnjoyNice to hear that. More for me, LOL.
BigBalls007
03-27-12, 12:38
Nice to hear that. More for me, LOL.Great to hear, more free pussy for me.
On the plane flying back to sex prison, I was sitting next to an Australian guy, and we got to chatting.
His name is Malcolm, and he manages the bar Touch of Class. It is owned by the same group that owns Emotions, next door.
The bar is open from 10 am till 7 pm, and it has a kitchen so that it serves a fairly full menu. It is a favourite eating place for guys in the vicinity. He says that it is one of the most successful and profitable bars in Perimeter. Has about 30 girls, and 16 t0 18 waitresses. He said that he sees his job as mostly having a beer with his customers, and sometimes throwing in a freebie.
It sounds like a 10 am,"heart starter", with breakfast and a sexy girl could be one of the more pleasant ways to start the day. And with the bar closing at 7 pm, it should be easier to arrange with a girl to meet you after work.
I asked him about the perception on this board of increasing numbers of guys from China, Korea etc. He agreed, but added that there was still a plentiful supply of girls coming to Angeles, so there is no iminent shortage to drive up prices.
He also remarked that the top end of Perimeter is now referred to as Korea City, with its own police force and a mayor. But he said that the thinks that trouble is coming. Some of the bars now have signs saying "Korean Only", and this will be a problem soon. He also mentioned that about 3 weeks ago, there was a drive by shooting of one of the larger Korean restaurants on the corner of Perimeter and Friendship highway. All of the front windows were shot out, and the guard was shot too.
Trouble brewing.
So, looks like a fun bar to try out.
G
To Slippery.
Cathay Pacific just start flying direct from Chicago to HKG every day and 7 flight a day from the US, they also have 7 flight a day from HKG to Manila and one to Cebu, they offer a speical fare for domestic worker much cheaper than regular fare.
Fast Eddie 48I highlly recommend Cathay Pacific vs. Those shitty USA (United, et. Al) airlines. Decent enough food in economy class, and you will get all the included alcohol you could ever need, and lovely flight attendents (unlike the 45+ year old. 200 lb. Porkers you'll see on the American airlines, trying to shoehorn their fat asses through the aisles. Absolutely criminal, I tell ya.)
I am in HK and wonder if I can wangle that special DH rate to try out some brown bunny action in Manila (well, not that it's all hard to come by here in HK). What should I tell the reservation agent?"Mee love you long time" "I clean very well"?
Fast Eddie 48
03-27-12, 23:22
I highlly recommend Cathay Pacific vs. Those shitty USA (United, et. Al) airlines. Decent enough food in economy class, and you will get all the included alcohol you could ever need, and lovely flight attendents (unlike the 45+ year old. 200 lb. Porkers you'll see on the American airlines, trying to shoehorn their fat asses through the aisles. Absolutely criminal, I tell ya.)
I am in HK and wonder if I can wangle that special DH rate to try out some brown bunny action in Manila (well, not that it's all hard to come by here in HK). What should I tell the reservation agent?"Mee love you long time" "I clean very well"?Wildhawk,
I fly with Cathay Pacific from SFO to HKG about 6 time a yr service is bit better than United, they will upgrade me for free now and then if they have seat in business class, but I like Singapore airline the most but Cathay have more connection flight to other country in asia and europe from HK, if you want to know a shitty airling try PAL from SFO direct to Manila that the worst.
Fast Eddie 48
Nomadic Mong
03-27-12, 23:46
Normally I don't post during the trip but I felt it is useful to publish latest info.
Came in on Sunday late night and staying in Angeles until Thursday this week. I don't know how many cities in the world you can say, your fun can start at 2 in the morning as in Angeles.
All in all, compared to last Aug, I see new bars, big bars and more and more girls and younger and younger girls. I don't know exactly the ratio but I would say may be 20 girls or more to 1 guy.
My usual place Dollhouse is not changed. Same girls and same mamasan.
What I noticed as change is internet is catching up with most of the girls and Facebook is becoming craze. I felt most of the girls have Facebook and my main request from girls is to take photos and upload them to their Facebook. So if you guys have a camera and a computer, that may get you few favors from your friends.
My trip moto is same as previous time. Mainly focusing on GF experience in Angeles and let out the nasty side in LOS. Best part is my GF in Angeles understand that it is Girl friends with "S" not a Girl friend as long as she is in it. Good to have a stable, known one at the same time try to sample few.
Best part of this trip so far was yesterday (or today early morning!) my GF rushing to restaurant with full anger when she came to know I picked up someone else without her knowing. Great drama to remember. It part of GF experiences of Angeles City. A good to story to tell how it all came about and worked out if I get the time.
This time staying in PB and it is a good hotel and I would recommend it. Very professional and clean service from pickup to security to house cleaning. Be good with cleaning girls and they will take care of your room and we all know how messy rooms gets even with just two girls.
I didn't experience any pickpocket or shooting so far. I didn't hear anyone seen it either. I enjoyed Forbidden shows. Nicely done but not still in par with Pattaya or Bangkok.
Heading out to LOS. Pattaya for more erotic side of experience. Let's see what is waiting there. We never know
Cool Traveler
03-28-12, 00:02
Well, I do this route about 6 times a year into HK. I fly in from San Francisco or from Los Angeles. Because of my 1K status on United, I use United. United sucks, but the thing about United is their code share airlines. Their code share airlines are some of the best in the world like ANA, SIA, Air Canada, Air NZ, and Thai. I love ANA. The stewards on ANA are just outstanding. I fall in love everytime I board a flight. From HK, you can take either SEAIR (now an affiliate of Tiger Airways) or Cebu Pacific. The route from HK to Clark is very competitive, so you should be able to get it at 3000P (last minute purchase) or less depending on how early you purchase. In asia, Tiger airways is by far one of the worst budget airlines out there. If you haven't tried it, look into Jetstar. I flew on Jetstar from Manila to Singapore last week. Very pleasant. I would rate it among the best in asia, right behind Hong Kong airlines. On time. No fuss. Very professional. And a little bit compassionate. If your bag limit is 10kg, and it weighs 12kg, They will overlook the additional 2 kg.
Depending on your country of origin, in most cases Hong Kong does not require a visa. You don't need a visa if you have a US passport. Macau does not either for US passport holders. But you must have a visa for China mainland. You can get to Macau from HK airport via a ferry. Never have to step foot into China. If my memory serves me right, the ferry fare is somewhere around HK$150. Folks correct me if I am wrong.
And yes, the cheapest way to travel to asia is to get a direct flight to Hong Kong, and use one of the budget airlines to get to other cities. Also, depending on season. High season is when college kids are going home. Lots of students come into US from asia for college and grad school.
The other thing I noticed in recent days is fares on Skymiles affiliates like Delta, Cathay Pacific are ver competitive. In the past year, my lowest fare from San Francisco to HK ws $697, and highets around $1400. 00 Most of my fares has been around the low to high $800s.
Warning:
You cannot transfer to a budget airline at any airport in asia. Particularly, in Hong Kong. You must get out through immigration and customs and re-check back in. The time it will take you from the time you deplane to getting out of immigration an customs is approximately 45 minutes on a bad day with very very long lines at HK airport. If you get late, and are in a rush, walk straight up to the end of the line, talk to one of those light blue uniformed ladies, and tell them you are late for a connection, and they will get you through fast. They will check your boarding pass, so don't bullshit them. Or have a frequent traveler card like I do which takes me to the end of the line everytime, fast. The dirty looks I get all the time. Hehehehe. So, budget at least 3 hours to get to your budget airlines.
Cool Traveler
03-28-12, 00:30
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1262532]I highlly recommend Cathay Pacific vs. Those shitty USA (United, et. Al) airlines. Decent enough food in economy class, and you will get all the included alcohol you could ever need, and lovely flight attendents (unlike the 45+ year old. 200 lb. Porkers you'll see on the American airlines, trying to shoehorn their fat asses through the aisles. Absolutely criminal, I tell ya.)
I have flown just about every airline imaginable. Cathay is somewhere in the middle of the pack. And yes United sucks and I am a United 1K member. But I get a lot of stuff for being loyal. Cathay is slightly above the US based airlines with seasoned stewards. I fly them whenever I get fed up with United, or I can't get one of United's code share airlines. The best airlines are Singapore Airlines, ANA, Asiana, Thai because they go overboard treating you nicely. The best overall lowfare regional airline I think is Hong Kong Airlines. Best ultra budget is Jetstar. I can tell stories on all the things Hong Kong Airlines did for me personally when I was in trouble at HK airport. Wished they flew to North America.
Sidestory:
I flew from Guam to Honolulu last week, and then on to Orange County from Honolulu. One of the United steward was old and overweight. On top of that she was dragging one of her leg. She could barely walk or function. My flight from LAX to Shanghai was similar, where the steward was in her 60s. I am not kidding here. Most likely close to late 60s. She could barely function, and the rest of the crew were picking up the slack. The sad part of this whole thing is, that they are working because they most likely lost all of their pension. I just don't get it. Why can't they put them somewhere safe, like at the counter or something like that?
Yes the opening of that route by CP is a god send. Otherwise it was frigg'n horrible and United has the worst employees I have ever witnessed from a USA airline. But its employee owned so that explains alot.
United to HK from ORD lost my business as soon as AI saw the Cathay Pacific new route.
Fast Eddie 48
03-28-12, 03:17
Yes the opening of that route by CP is a god send. Otherwise it was frigg'and horrible and United has the worst employees I have ever witnessed from a USA airline. But its employee owned so that explains alot.
United to HK from ORD lost my business as soon as AI saw the Cathay Pacific new route.To Slippery
I been a Marco Polo member since 1995 then only one flight a day from LAX to HK, Cathay service have been going down hill the last 5 yr also, they use to offer me free coupon and gift when I made a compain about the service or flight delay now day there are no respond it all, I do fly with American airline to South america yes the employee don't give a shit any more they don't made the kind of money like they do 10 yr ago the union is weak.
Fast Eddie 48
Yes the opening of that route by CP is a god send. Otherwise it was frigg'and horrible and United has the worst employees I have ever witnessed from a USA airline. But its employee owned so that explains alot.
United to HK from ORD lost my business as soon as AI saw the Cathay Pacific new route.I also switched to Asian owned airlines. I lost my appetite when I saw the cabin crew of UA. They are at least twice the size of an average CP crew. Most of the UA cabin crew barely fits going down the aisle. Ahh.
Fastpiston
03-28-12, 04:51
I understand that Cebu Pacific still makes it very difficult / impossible to book online using a foreign credit cared. From my knowledge, it is the only global airline that does this.
I understand that Cebu Pacific still makes it very difficult / impossible to book online using a foreign credit cared. From my knowledge, it is the only global airline that does this.Yep, typical Philipino joke. Tried my cards online, no go. Rang call centre got to the "enter your details via automated system" still no fucking good.
I now have to book thru local agent, who are about 1000p more than the web price What a joke.
The wankers need to come into 21st century.
WestCoast1
03-28-12, 06:18
I understand that Cebu Pacific still makes it very difficult / impossible to book online using a foreign credit cared. From my knowledge, it is the only global airline that does this.My foreign CC works fine with CP, but I have to call my bank in advance (just a few minutes ahead of time) to tell them I'm booking with an asian-only airline. If I forget to call and tell them, the charge gets declined, and usually within about 15 minutes my bank calls me, checking for fraudulent activity.
My foreign CC works fine with CP, but I have to call my bank in advance (just a few minutes ahead of time) to tell them I'm booking with an asian-only airline. If I forget to call and tell them, the charge gets declined, and usually within about 15 minutes my bank calls me, checking for fraudulent activity.I agree with this, you should call the bank that issued your credit card right before you make the purchase (or maybe even during). In addition, I use my Visa card to buy tickets on Cebu Pacific which is "Verified by Visa". After you imput your card information you will be redirected to another screen where you will need to type in your Verified by Visa password. Then it works for me.
I'm not sure if Mastercard has a "verified" system? And I don't think Cebu Pacific takes American Express. But I am successful in using my Chase bank-issued Visa card on CPs website. Only downside is Chase charges a 3% foreign transaction fee.
Yes the opening of that route by CP is a god send. Otherwise it was frigg'and horrible and United has the worst employees I have ever witnessed from a USA airline. But its employee owned so that explains alot.
United to HK from ORD lost my business as soon as AI saw the Cathay Pacific new route.Slippery,
Not trying to defend UAL employees, but before you start bashing the UAL workers, you should check your ". UAL is NOT employee owned, it was in the late 1990's, (when it was also very profitable and the stock split 4-1). The airline filed bankruptcy in 2003 and those "grumpy" employees have been working under the same court imposed agreement since that time.
The "new" management, ie old CAL officers said they wanted a fresh start, and yet have not seen fit to finish the process of combining the groups, citing the employees resistance as the reason.
As usual the management runs off with a large bonus, leaving the workers behind to try to give a good service with less and less. Doesn't take long to figure out who loses in that equation. EVERYONE!
Member #4698
03-28-12, 12:08
Only downside is Chase charges a 3% foreign transaction fee.Not the Chase Premier Marriott Rewards card. There is an annual fee, but they give you an anniversary free night at any 1 to 5 category Marriott family hotels to compensate. The 5x points rewards add up fast and I have received many free nights, plus free room upgrades. So consider changing your card. If you don't like Marriott, try the Priority Intercontinental Chase card. Same deal: annual fee, but free anniversary nights, no transaction fees, and free automatic room upgrades.
I like Cebu Pacific airlines. They have pretty stewardesses. They use 2 exits on most planes for fast exit. I pay the $5 fee for a reserved seat in the first 4 rows. I usually get a whole row to myself. I wish they flew to the USA. The only downside is the late hour on many of the flights I like to take: Macau – Clark and Clark nonstop to Cebu for example.
California8
03-28-12, 17:32
Sidestory:
I flew from Guam to Honolulu last week, and then on to Orange County from Honolulu. One of the United steward was old and overweight. On top of that she was dragging one of her leg. She could barely walk or function. My flight from LAX to Shanghai was similar, where the steward was in her 60s. I am not kidding here. Most likely close to late 60s. She could barely function, and the rest of the crew were picking up the slack. The sad part of this whole thing is, that they are working because they most likely lost all of their pension. I just don't get it. Why can't they put them somewhere safe, like at the counter or something like that?I have read that on United, the flight attendants with seniority (union rules) get their pick of routes. Plus they have a minimum number of flight hours per month they must fly. So the old ones pick the long haul flights and get their monthly minimum done in just a few days work and then use their 'fly free' status the rest of the month.
Cal8
California8
03-28-12, 17:37
Not the Chase Premier Marriott Rewards card. There is an annual fee, but they give you an anniversary free night at any 1 to 5 category Marriott family hotels to compensate. The 5x points rewards add up fast and I have received many free nights, plus free room upgrades. So consider changing your card. If you don't like Marriott, try the Priority Intercontinental Chase card. Same deal: annual fee, but free anniversary nights, no transaction fees, and free automatic room upgrades.Ditto Natty Bumpo: I take my Chase Premier Marriott Rewards credit card whenever I go overseas and there is no foreign transaction fee. And those fees really add up.
Cal8
Cool Traveler
03-28-12, 17:47
I have read that on United, the flight attendants with seniority (union rules) get their pick of routes. Plus they have a minimum number of flight hours per month they must fly. So the old ones pick the long haul flights and get their monthly minimum done in just a few days work and then use their 'fly free' status the rest of the month.
Cal8Cal8, I think that is what is happening. I have so many miles on them, hate to go to another airline. I was sitting in business class last week from Honolulu to Orange County. The seats had individual video screens, with DirectTV. Problem was you needed to run your credit card through to watch anything. I mean, whats up with that. It is business class! And you have to pay for your entertainment.
Unfortunately, I most likely will still fly them.
And yes, to one of the commenters here, Catahy has been sliding downhill. Most of the asian airlines suffered when they lost their most lucrative routes, which were the short routes, that has been taken by the budget airlines.
Stroker Ace88
03-28-12, 18:50
I agree with this, you should call the bank that issued your credit card right before you make the purchase (or maybe even during). In addition, I use my Visa card to buy tickets on Cebu Pacific which is "Verified by Visa". After you imput your card information you will be redirected to another screen where you will need to type in your Verified by Visa password. Then it works for me.[SNIP]I also use my visa card and book online with cebu pacific without any trouble. The verified by visa extra password is the key. I do inform visa of my plans for international travel and fill in the security department on the info, I often book cebu pacific flights in advance of informing visa.
Only trouble I have had with cebu pacific is getting them to change flights after booking or trying to book a limited super-promo fare when everyone in the Philippines is trying to book the same flight all at once. Best way is to visit a cebu pacific office and deal direct for any changes.
[SNIP]I like Cebu Pacific airlines. They have pretty stewardesses. They use 2 exits on most planes for fast exit. I pay the $5 fee for a reserved seat in the first 4 rows. I usually get a whole row to myself. I wish they flew to the USA. The only downside is the late hour on many of the flights I like to take: Macau – Clark and Clark nonstop to Cebu for example.Be aware that when booking a Clark-Cebu flight or vice-versa with cebu pacific, there is a load factor indicator that dictates if that flight is a go or a no. If the seats sold number is under the break even point the flight is cancelled and you will routed through Manila and put on the next Manila-Cebu flight and that can suck.
I have read that on United, the flight attendants with seniority (union rules) get their pick of routes. Plus they have a minimum number of flight hours per month they must fly. So the old ones pick the long haul flights and get their monthly minimum done in just a few days work and then use their 'fly free' status the rest of the month.
Cal8I know it is off the main topic, but want to make sure that the correct information is being put out there. First, almost all (I can't think of one that does not use this system) airlines in North America and most larger ones in Europe use the seniority system when assigning trips to crew members. The way it is handled differs greatly at each carrier. You are correct that most of this is covered by union contract, but even the non-union carriers have similar work rules. You are also correct that at least at United, Continental, Northwest, and I expect before it is all said and done American, the pensions were either terminated or frozen.
Of course back in the "good old days" of regulated skies and age (plus a few other) discrimination, the flight attendants couldn't work past 30 and were not allowed to be married. They had weight and appearance checks on a regular basis. Whether it was "better" then, is a matter of perspective I guess. Certainly from an appearance standpoint it is hard to disagree that a 20 something slender cutie is much preferred to an over 50 battlewagon. Those pesky social issues.
If you have been on a airplane recently you know how full they are, well trying to ride "standby" is a nightmare and I can assure that "fly free" status is anything but.
Member #4698
03-29-12, 04:17
Be aware that when booking a Clark-Cebu flight or vice-versa with cebu pacific, there is a load factor indicator that dictates if that flight is a go or a no. If the seats sold number is under the break even point the flight is cancelled and you will routed through Manila and put on the next Manila-Cebu flight and that can suck.I did not know that Stroker. Thanks for telling me. The Clark-Cebu flight I took was at least 75% occupied.
Tally Wacker
03-30-12, 00:42
Has anyone barfined this girl before from Voodoo bar? She is tall 5' 7". If you have any details let me know or PM me.
Thanks!
John Dough
03-30-12, 22:07
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Dick Hertz
03-31-12, 15:36
I highlly recommend Cathay Pacific vs. Those shitty USA (United, et. Al) airlines. Decent enough food in economy class, and you will get all the included alcohol you could ever need, and lovely flight attendents (unlike the 45+ year old. 200 lb. Porkers you'll see on the American airlines, trying to shoehorn their fat asses through the aisles. Absolutely criminal, I tell ya.)
I am in HK and wonder if I can wangle that special DH rate to try out some brown bunny action in Manila (well, not that it's all hard to come by here in HK). What should I tell the reservation agent?"Mee love you long time" "I clean very well"?So I am confuse about how you fly back from AC to HK. By flying Ceba or Seair in the morning you arrive around 9 am and United, American and some Cathy flight leave between 940 and 1150 am so if you need 3 hours to transfer then does everyone take the pm flight arriving at 2330h and wait the eleven hour layover. It may be better flying into Manila and not worrying about custom tranfer. Also the three times I stayed in AC it was at the Pacific Breeze which was for a week because I split my time in Manila but now I spending all my time in AC. Since I will be staying three weeks I looking for a place that is more affordable. I would like to know if the DM Residente would be a better choose. The cost for a jacuzzi room is half of the PB but can anyone tell me about this place like the room size, condition and the staff. I heard that there is no safe in the room which is strike one but is it okay to keep my stuff there or will I have problems traveling at night. I hope you can help me.
Dflostrife
04-01-12, 23:50
I staid at the DM residente before but was one the villas, service was ok not great and its a good walk to fields from there in short you will have to trike it almost everywhere my advice try looking into maybe Royal Amsterdam or a new one call Galaxy hotel rooms look good and prices are great and right in the hart of all.
Dick Hertz
04-03-12, 09:46
Thanks Dflostrife also thought of staying at a villa, but is it true that there is no room safes.
GosiwonBusan
04-03-12, 15:46
I will be arriving next week, if anyone can suggest a girl with milk (name and bar) that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I look forward to posting my first report soon.
I will be arriving next week, if anyone can suggest a girl with milk (name and bar) that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I look forward to posting my first report soon.The Cowbell Bar might be able to help.
Dick Hertz
04-06-12, 01:56
Can anyone tell me if it is safe to fly in to HKG at 9AM on Ceba or Seair and make a 1130AM connecting flight?
Can anyone tell me if it is safe to fly in to HKG at 9AM on Ceba or Seair and make a 1130AM connecting flight?Dick.
That is plenty of time. 2.5 Hours. I usually do it in less than 90 minutes. Hong Kong is a very efficient airport.
Can anyone tell me if it is safe to fly in to HKG at 9AM on Ceba or Seair and make a 1130AM connecting flight?You shouldn't have a problem unless Tiger or Cebu is delayed, but remember you will have to exit thru customs and then go to the check in counter I believe if you check luggage because I am sure that neither of these airlines has a transfer agreement with anyone at HKIA. This may add to the hassle factor!
Sky
Dick Hertz
04-06-12, 23:56
Thanks for the info I can make my plans now.
Member #4698
04-07-12, 04:48
Thanks for the info I can make my plans now.As Sky said, "You shouldn't have a problem unless Tiger or Cebu is delayed." I would never take that risk. Stay overnight in HKG. It is a great town. Wanchai has some quality pickup bars, East TST offers up Chinese FL's, and Monkok has plenty of massage joints like 37 Dundas. I would recommend staying a couple of days there before flying home.
As Sky said, "You shouldn't have a problem unless Tiger or Cebu is delayed." I would never take that risk. Stay overnight in HKG. It is a great town. Wanchai has some quality pickup bars, East TST offers up Chinese FL's, and Monkok has plenty of massage joints like 37 Dundas. I would recommend staying a couple of days there before flying home.I agree with Natty, I would never trust Cebu or Tiger if I needed to make a connection with less than 12 hours. An overnight in HK has its own rewards as well, albeit a litte more pricey!
I have been to Angeles City last 2 months.
Information is a lot on internet. Nothing much to say again except I recommend High Society & Club Asia.
The current rate is 1800peso for ordinary girl and 3000peso for hot girl tlr.
I cannot accept the 1800peso girl even they pay me for sex service. So I always pick up 3000peso girl.
But there is an exception, you pick up the girl from a 24 hour bar daytime. 1800peso is st price for all girls, pretty or not.
The street is lousy as always. The weekend room around fields avenue is full as always. If you arrive on weekend, you need to stay a bit far from field ave, maybe the walking distance is 200m-500m. It is still acceptable.
Club Atlantis, Dollhouse are always full of working girl and people as in old time. But I recommend other new club.
Be sure to pick up girl early, such as 7. 00-8. 00pm something, otherwise you couldn't get top notch girl. The competition is intense there due to its fame.
The overall night scene is boring, except watching girl & fucking. No live music performance, even no strip show in most clubs!
Not a very exciting place after all.
Not all the girls are willing to stay with you for the whole night. I can say 80% of the working girls there have attitude problem.
Tips one of the bartender, manager, agent, waitress, whatever around you for good recommendation. (*They follow you from the doorstep once you enter into club and always pay attention to your need) It is useful. I don't like iceberg, and I am willing to avoid the iceberg at a small cost.
Besides, another thing is the girls always like to go back early around 5-6am even they stay overnight with you. The excuse is prayer, back to hometown, blablabla.
But if you are handsome enough, young enough, and have great fucking ability. The situation I mention above won't apply on you.
Otherwise, accept the fact. Don't ever think to use money to buy you out of the unfriendly situation. It never works no matter what country you are fucking in. Pick nice girl at start is the point and the only workable solution.
GosiwonBusan
04-11-12, 02:38
I am in AC, and looking for a wingman, someone to hang out with.
If you are interested then send me a PM, let me know where and when to meet.
Quick report. Every girl so far has been 2000. I have not had any problem with LD. Most of the girls have one an then seem honest about mens, or other issue. Girls that I have taken back stay the night. Personally I couldn't say if one bar was better than another. They seem about the same. Personally I prefer the smaller places, it is easier for me.
I agree with everyone else, there doesn't seem to be much else to do.
The Rooster1
04-13-12, 03:30
In April Anna from La Union should be back in AC, most likely Dirty Duck. Highly recomended but she is a bit of a psyco so watch out. Few Annas in dirty duck but this one wears a necklace with her name on it. She just gave birth so plenty of milk I assumeIs Dirty Duck open again? Was in AC a few weeks ago and it was closed. I know this is a constant revolving door.
The Rooster1
04-13-12, 03:38
Since they were non-pros and most had regular jobs,
I tipped them from 500 to 1500 pesos depending on how much time they spent with me and how much I enjoyed it.Good report and thanks for posting. Had to muddle through alot of travel and financial posts to see it! But I disagree with the above two lines. Would you tip a girl in your country after a hook-up? Some of the best pro's don't work in bars and juggle a couple dozen guys because their looking for the long term pay-outs. But all that matters is that you had fun. PEace out.
Good report and thanks for posting. Had to muddle through alot of travel and financial posts to see it! But I disagree with the above two lines. Would you tip a girl in your country after a hook-up? Some of the best pro's don't work in bars and juggle a couple dozen guys because their looking for the long term pay-outs. But all that matters is that you had fun. PEace out.The term non-pro was not well chosen I have to admit. Perhaps semi-pro would have been better. I chatted with most of these girls for a couple of weeks before meeting them, and I was very honest in my DIA profile and in chatting about what I wanted. And they returned the favor by stating more or less clearly that they wanted compensation for the time they spent with me. Fine by me, we were all happy when we parted ways.
Best part of this trip so far was yesterday (or today early morning!) my GF rushing to restaurant with full anger when she came to know I picked up someone else without her knowing. Great drama to remember. It part of GF experiences of Angeles City. A good to story to tell how it all came about and worked out if I get the time.
I didn't experience any pickpocket or shooting so far. I didn't hear anyone seen it either. I enjoyed Forbidden shows. Nicely done but not still in par with Pattaya or Bangkok.PI, espc AC girls are experts are playing part of jealous gf. They have always managed to make me feel guilty for bf'ing another girl even tho I may have only Bf her once / twice. Kind of strange when you know they fuck different guys everyday to Sunday when you are not here. I had one ready to quit the whole bar scene and leave AC with me to wherever I go. Even tells me she doesn't get BF anymore (only dance) and SKYPE / cam me every night after her shift as if. Took me a few weeks at home to get over her. Still trying to figure out how to 'avoid' her next time I'm in town as this place, I swear, is full of spies. I was just walking down Fields last time with her, she knows every other bar-girls outside pulling customer in. If not her sister, then one of her girlfriends used to work at same bar. I could be walking alone and occasionally her friends would remember me with a wink / smile even ask me where's my girl?
I think solution is just be honest with them. Say your a butterfly that would love to see her again, but also love to see others. I think the hot ones have no problem with these guilt trips because they know they can get Bf every night. But then my jealous girl is hot too come to think about it. But there are hotter ones I'm after.
I was in Angeles City the first week in March for my cherry trip. Stayed at the Central Park Hotel which, was fine for my first trip as the food was surprisingly good, and all the staff really cool, and laid back. Regretfully I only barfined from Fields and made many first time mistakes, and wasted lots of money for alot less honey. I failed to ask the girls about longtime definition to them, how many pops, bbbjs, and BBFS. I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms. Which surprised me being that I am young early 30s, ok looking, and in shape. I also, rang that stupid bell in bars too much, popped too many darn balloons, and bought too many ladies drinks especially for girls I had no interest in. I dunno. I was just trippin on the sheen quantity of girls in general. All these years of hearing about Angeles and now finally hear and totally shocked! Oh well I did have fun for my first time but, wish I could have had an experienced wingmang to cruise with and help show me the ropes. If down I will provide the drinks as a show of gratitute for the "aloha". I will be back in early November for 10 days and will probably be trying Pacific Breeze Hotel. Also, when I was there Dirty Duck was closed does anyone know the status of current situation. I will provide a more detailed account of my trip.
Thank you all.
Manfield04
04-15-12, 21:30
Hello Sir Lancelot,
I am still waiting for your full reports on your recent sexcapade.
Hi. I will be more than happy to provide you with all of this information but it will take a while to write (at the moment I've got thousands of notes on my mobile phone!). I also plan to provide a map of Fields Avenue with info on all of the bars, which I think you might find helpful.
To answer my own question and the rooster1. One of my friends, who is a drink server at One Eyed Wench told me lots of ex-workers from dirty duck are at her bar. Apparently a few girls never had their licenses at Dirty Duck and that is why it is closed.
You're relatively young, ringing bells and you still get runners? Wow, can someone explain this? March is low season. I slipped a gal my phone number about 2am, then left. She texted at 4am but I was asleep, didn't wake up, and thought I missed a chance. She was in my bed at 1pm that afternoon.
As for the condoms, I'm not sure why that is a problem for you. Are you weirded out with tatoos, getting wild. Ummm, ringing bells. Maybe that is why they want the protection. Some of us are kind and gentle grandfathers. The girls think we are harmless. And of course we are.
I rarely talk specifics about services with gals, other than,"let's have breakfast together." I like GFE so I don't talk specific sx acts, but others have good results by getting a check list. Different things work with diff gals, there's no rhyme or reason.
X.
I was in Angeles City the first week in March for my cherry trip. Stayed at the Central Park Hotel which, was fine for my first trip as the food was surprisingly good, and all the staff really cool, and laid back. Regretfully I only barfined from Fields and made many first time mistakes, and wasted lots of money for alot less honey. I failed to ask the girls about longtime definition to them, how many pops, bbbjs, and BBFS. I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms. Which surprised me being that I am young early 30s, ok looking, and in shape. I also, rang that stupid bell in bars too much, popped too many darn balloons, and bought too many ladies drinks especially for girls I had no interest in. I dunno. I was just trippin on the sheen quantity of girls in general. All these years of hearing about Angeles and now finally hear and totally shocked! Oh well I did have fun for my first time but, wish I could have had an experienced wingmang to cruise with and help show me the ropes. If down I will provide the drinks as a show of gratitute for the "aloha". I will be back in early November for 10 days and will probably be trying Pacific Breeze Hotel. Also, when I was there Dirty Duck was closed does anyone know the status of current situation. I will provide a more detailed account of my trip.
Thank you all.
I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms. Which surprised me being that I am young early 30s, ok looking, and in shape.On my last trip, all the girls I took wanted to use condoms also. In the past, I rarely heard the girls say "condom" in the bedroom. Times have changed!
I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms.It would be good if we can get more details as to what exactly you did to figure this one out. I am in my early 30's and in my 40-50 trips in AC I have had 1 runner only. Maybe they could smell NEW BLOOD, maybe you were way to soft or perhaps come across as arogant without even noticing it yourself. To me it seems very unusual but hey as long as you had fun thats all that counts.
. I did alot of runners with poor service, .You shouldn't have shown them your badge.
Member #4698
04-16-12, 19:33
I was in Angeles City the first week in March for my cherry trip. and made many first time mistakes, and wasted lots of money for alot less honey. I failed to ask the girls about longtime definition to them, how many pops, bbbjs, and BBFS. I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms. Which surprised me .It surprises me too. I never ask girls about their service. I think it is a mood killer. In the PI, I assume it will be LT with BBBJ's and multiple shots. In Thailand, it is different and ST and LT options are clearly known by both parties. But I always spend some time getting to know a little about the girl, no matter where I am, before the barfine, in order to see if she is the right one for me. I am looking for more than a pretty face and sexy body to pound. Body language is key! I am always friendly and I never act like I need to get laid. I flirt with the girl and always buy her a drink. If I sense anything I don't like or that seems peculiar; I end things and politely walk. My interview technique seems to work because I have a very low percentage of disappointments. Not all shags are great. Some girls you really connect with and others turn out to be average. On my recent 2012 trip for example, I had only one lackluster performance where the girl and I had no chemistry together once we got in bed. Now to the point of this post:
I was in AC in early February with exactly the opposite results as Ty. I EWR'd 4 girls in 5 nights and repeated with my favorite on my last day. I took girls out of Body Shop, LIA, Pasha, and Club Asia. The LIA girl (Juliet) was the most GFE and the cheapest at 1300p. I bar fined her around 3pm and did not let her go till noon the next day. I must have shagged her 5 or 6 times, I lost count. I gave her a 500p tip. She was the one I repeated with later. Jo Ann, the Body Shop gal was the hottest and Rosana, the Pasha girl was very cute. I think I paid 1800p and 2000p for each. They each gave me soapy shower, BBBJ's and multiple shots. I gave each girl 300p tip. It was Valentine's day so I got sentimental and EWR'd Edzel from Club Asia for 3000p because she looked real pretty. She was nice, but gave me nothing more than the other girls. In fact, she came in last place in my after shag performance evaluation of her although she was slightly prettier than Miss Pasha. I did not tip her. I thought she had enough with her cut of the EWR.
Now here is the funny thing: I fell off the wagon with Riny an Indonesian thigh massage girl I met in Macau. We shagged the 1st time with a condom and it was great. Afterwards, we were cuddling and kissing side by side and I started to get hard again. Riny noticed and gave me a few tender tugs. Then she got up on her knees. She gave me a knowing, dirty, questioning look. No words were spoke. I knew what she was asking and I nodded in guilty assent. Then she slowly mounted me and began to ride me bareback. The feelings I had shagging her were sensational. It's like the first shag was listening to somebody speak while wearing Boise noise reduction headphones and the 2nd shag was like removing the headphones and hearing everything clearly and distinctly. There was no comparison. As I was about to cum, I pulled out and my jism landed on Rinys stomach. She just laughed at my perceived silliness. I hadn't gone bareback since an accident in 2001 in Bangkok when my condom fell off during intercourse. How that happened is another story.
When I arrived in the PI, I was resolved not to go bareback again! But on my very first night in AC, my lack of self restraint continued. Jo Ann was giving me a BBBJ. When she was finished she just moved up on me and without any hesitation, impaled herself on my cock. I was a little surprised at first, but only a little. I had a fair idea of what she was about to do and secretly hoped she would do it. I did nothing to prevent it. I thought about pulling out, but then like with the Macau session, the sensory feelings overpowered any resolve I had left and I just went with it, powerless to end it. Again, I pulled out before I unloaded and again this just amused the girl. Her giggle seemed to say what is this silly man doing, pulling out of my pussy as he cums. On the second shag, I did not pull out and it felt great to unload in her pussy. With my 2nd AC girl Juliet, same, same, only this time, after her BBBJ, I was a little more proactive. We were lying side by side kissing and I started to massage her clit. As I was playing around with her, I sort of just let my dick slide into her pussy sideways. Juliet offered absolutely no resistance as I slowly entered her. It was like a hot knife slicing into room temperature butter. Again the sensory feelings were overpowering and I could not stop. And so it went. I barebacked every girl I had this trip in the PI; Rosana, Edzel, Celine from BG's, Wendy from Arena, Joy from MBC, and Beth from Fire House; I barebacked all of them. And none of the my Filipinas even mentioned a condom or expressed any interest in using one. Beth the girl from EDSA smiled and said I was a "bad boy' when I came in her pussy, but then when we shagged again a 2nd and a 3rd time, she did not even mention it and seemed to enjoy it. I know I did. By then, I was completely out of control as far as protection and prevention was concerned. It was not until I left the Philippines and landed in LOS that I was able to climb back on the wagon and get some control back with the help of all my Thai girls who insisted on a condom.
I am not trying to promote what I did. What I did was reckless and risky. I know that. But facts are facts and riding bareback is exponentially more pleasurable than using protection.
Ty Stick's post prompted me to submit this report. Near the end of my trip, I was back in Macau and fell off the wagon one more time with a Singapore model in Famila Nobre. I'm bad! I have had no symptoms of any STD's since returning home. But I went to a lab and got tested anyway to make sure. Total lab costs were $300. I did not want to put this on my insurance. The tests results came back negative. I am now back on the wagon again, but like a recovering alcoholic, I think I will be at risk again whenever I return to the Philippines. These temptations are part of the game.
I always thought high season was November to March, with December to February high season at its very peak.
Can people write in and give their opinion as to when high season is? Its the best time for full selection of hot ladies, so want to be there then.
The Rooster1
04-17-12, 04:31
I was in Angeles City the first week in March for my cherry trip. Stayed at the Central Park Hotel which, was fine for my first trip as the food was surprisingly good, and all the staff really cool, and laid back. Regretfully I only barfined from Fields and made many first time mistakes, and wasted lots of money for alot less honey. I failed to ask the girls about longtime definition to them, how many pops, bbbjs, and BBFS. I did alot of runners with poor service, and all the girls wanted to use condoms. Which surprised me being that I am young early 30s, ok looking, and in shape. I also, rang that stupid bell in bars too much, popped too many darn balloons, and bought too many ladies drinks especially for girls I had no interest in. I dunno. I was just trippin on the sheen quantity of girls in general. All these years of hearing about Angeles and now finally hear and totally shocked! Oh well I did have fun for my first time but, wish I could have had an experienced wingmang to cruise with and help show me the ropes. If down I will provide the drinks as a show of gratitute for the "aloha". I will be back in early November for 10 days and will probably be trying Pacific Breeze Hotel. Also, when I was there Dirty Duck was closed does anyone know the status of current situation. I will provide a more detailed account of my trip.
Thank you all.It happens bro! The important thing is you went and had a good time. You will learn as you continue to go and get advice from others. First trip should just include getting hammered, getting laid, and making it back to work ontime. Sounds like you did alright. First couple of times I went I liked that bell too. And the balls.
The Rooster1
04-17-12, 04:32
It surprises me too. I never ask girls about their service. I think it is a mood killer. In the PI, I assume it will be LT with BBBJ's and multiple shots. In Thailand, it is different and ST and LT options are clearly known by both parties. But I always spend some time getting to know a little about the girl, no matter where I am, before the barfine, in order to see if she is the right one for me. I am looking for more than a pretty face and sexy body to pound. Body language is key! I am always friendly and I never act like I need to get laid. I flirt with the girl and always buy her a drink. If I sense anything I don't like or that seems peculiar; I end things and politely walk. My interview technique seems to work because I have a very low percentage of disappointments. Not all shags are great. Some girls you really connect with and others turn out to be average. On my recent 2012 trip for example, I had only one lackluster performance where the girl and I had no chemistry together once we got in bed. Now to the point of this post:
I was in AC in early February with exactly the opposite results as Ty. I EWR'd 4 girls in 5 nights and repeated with my favorite on my last day. I took girls out of Body Shop, LIA, Pasha, and Club Asia. The LIA girl (Juliet) was the most GFE and the cheapest at 1300p. I bar fined her around 3pm and did not let her go till noon the next day. I must have shagged her 5 or 6 times, I lost count. I gave her a 500p tip. She was the one I repeated with later. Jo Ann, the Body Shop gal was the hottest and Rosana, the Pasha girl was very cute. I think I paid 1800p and 2000p for each. They each gave me soapy shower, BBBJ's and multiple shots. I gave each girl 300p tip. It was Valentine's day so I got sentimental and EWR'd Edzel from Club Asia for 3000p because she looked real pretty. She was nice, but gave me nothing more than the other girls. In fact, she came in last place in my after shag performance evaluation of her although she was slightly prettier than Miss Pasha. I did not tip her. I thought she had enough with her cut of the EWR.
Now here is the funny thing: I fell off the wagon with Riny an Indonesian thigh massage girl I met in Macau. We shagged the 1st time with a condom and it was great. Afterwards, we were cuddling and kissing side by side and I started to get hard again. Riny noticed and gave me a few tender tugs. Then she got up on her knees. She gave me a knowing, dirty, questioning look. No words were spoke. I knew what she was asking and I nodded in guilty assent. Then she slowly mounted me and began to ride me bareback. The feelings I had shagging her were sensational. It's like the first shag was listening to somebody speak while wearing Boise noise reduction headphones and the 2nd shag was like removing the headphones and hearing everything clearly and distinctly. There was no comparison. As I was about to cum, I pulled out and my jism landed on Rinys stomach. She just laughed at my perceived silliness. I hadn't gone bareback since an accident in 2001 in Bangkok when my condom fell off during intercourse. How that happened is another story.
When I arrived in the PI, I was resolved not to go bareback again! But on my very first night in AC, my lack of self restraint continued. Jo Ann was giving me a BBBJ. When she was finished she just moved up on me and without any hesitation, impaled herself on my cock. I was a little surprised at first, but only a little. I had a fair idea of what she was about to do and secretly hoped she would do it. I did nothing to prevent it. I thought about pulling out, but then like with the Macau session, the sensory feelings overpowered any resolve I had left and I just went with it, powerless to end it. Again, I pulled out before I unloaded and again this just amused the girl. Her giggle seemed to say what is this silly man doing, pulling out of my pussy as he cums. On the second shag, I did not pull out and it felt great to unload in her pussy. With my 2nd AC girl Juliet, same, same, only this time, after her BBBJ, I was a little more proactive. We were lying side by side kissing and I started to massage her clit. As I was playing around with her, I sort of just let my dick slide into her pussy sideways. Juliet offered absolutely no resistance as I slowly entered her. It was like a hot knife slicing into room temperature butter. Again the sensory feelings were overpowering and I could not stop. And so it went. I barebacked every girl I had this trip in the PI; Rosana, Edzel, Celine from BG's, Wendy from Arena, Joy from MBC, and Beth from Fire House; I barebacked all of them. And none of the my Filipinas even mentioned a condom or expressed any interest in using one. Beth the girl from EDSA smiled and said I was a "bad boy' when I came in her pussy, but then when we shagged again a 2nd and a 3rd time, she did not even mention it and seemed to enjoy it. I know I did. By then, I was completely out of control as far as protection and prevention was concerned. It was not until I left the Philippines and landed in LOS that I was able to climb back on the wagon and get some control back with the help of all my Thai girls who insisted on a condom.
I am not trying to promote what I did. What I did was reckless and risky. I know that. But facts are facts and riding bareback is exponentially more pleasurable than using protection.
Ty Stick's post prompted me to submit this report. Near the end of my trip, I was back in Macau and fell off the wagon one more time with a Singapore model in Famila Nobre. I'm bad! I have had no symptoms of any STD's since returning home. But I went to a lab and got tested anyway to make sure. Total lab costs were $300. I did not want to put this on my insurance. The tests results came back negative. I am now back on the wagon again, but like a recovering alcoholic, I think I will be at risk again whenever I return to the Philippines. These temptations are part of the game.Very good report and so true!
I am not trying to promote what I did. What I did was reckless and risky. I know that. But facts are facts and riding bareback is exponentially more pleasurable than using protection.How many of the working girls are taking the pill?
I always thought high season was November to March, with December to February high season at its very peak.
Can people write in and give their opinion as to when high season is? Its the best time for full selection of hot ladies, so want to be there then.Yup you are right. Many girls that need to work the bars will begin in October or November and wrap it up and go back to their province before the rainy season starts again around May.
Yup you are right. Many girls that need to work the bars will begin in October or November and wrap it up and go back to their province before the rainy season starts again around May.Thanks for the confirmation.
Loverboy44
04-17-12, 14:13
hi guys,
it was my first time in the philippines. i used to work in thailand for more than 6 years but never could make it there. so this time i wanted to spend my holiday in the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'s.
i started in manila and i was surprised about the manila bay cafe and couldn't close my mouth by how you are stormed by the most beautiful girls i have ever seen. never made it to the 2nd floor though. why should i pay for something i have downstairs? had 3 extraordinary hardcore nights with the girls, once 2 at once, and headed for a week to the famous angeles city. but what i saw i could not believe. i mean, if you know pattaya and have seen it, what the hell do you do in angeles city. it's basically one road (fields avenue) , maybe 3 or 4 kilometers long and nothing arround it. the second thing i didn't know was that there are only gogo bars. i like to sit in a bar, talk to the girls and select one rather than looking at nearly no motivated girls, swinging their sometimes fat hips. sorry boys but this is no bar hopping, this is gogo hopping.
after chosing a girl from butterfly rock for a week (looked like miss philippines but dead fish in bed, at least something for the eye) i headed to subic bay for another week. that's where the fun started for me. i had better gone there directly. beautiful girls. plenty of them. floating bars. great hotels. fantastic time.
so in my point of view:
skip angeles.
go to pattaya for hardcore and fun.
or.
go to subic bay for sun and fun and gfe
How many of the working girls are taking the pill?I would say none. For some reason Phi girls love to get pregnant even non-bargirls. With regard to bargirls they do not seem to care who the father is? In fact they themselves do not seem to know.
I had met a real beautifull 18 year old Agasya girl few years ago and ended up with her for 4 nights. Well she did not get pregnant by me although it was bareback.
When I went four months later she was pregnant. I barfined her again but her enthusiasm in sex was not there. She thought anything I did would hurt the baby. She did not know who the father was.
Nowadays I do not barfine and exclusively stay with many regular girls I met. I put all these girls on the pill for the duration of my stay. None got pregnant.
I did not catch any STD either. Do not know if they fucked other guys. I never ask because since I am not going to marry them what they do is their business besides if I ask they would definitely lie.
How many of the working girls are taking the pill?Zero or 1% as it is considered illegal in PI by the local church goers
Member #4152
04-17-12, 18:28
hi guys,
it was my first time in the philippines. i used to work in thailand for more than 6 years but never could make it there. so this time i wanted to spend my holiday in the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'s.
i started in manila and i was surprised about the manila bay cafe and couldn't close my mouth by how you are stormed by the most beautiful girls i have ever seen. never made it to the 2nd floor though. why should i pay for something i have downstairs? had 3 extraordinary hardcore nights with the girls, once 2 at once, and headed for a week to the famous angeles city. but what i saw i could not believe. i mean, if you know pattaya and have seen it, what the hell do you do in angeles city. it's basically one road (fields avenue) , maybe 3 or 4 kilometers long and nothing arround it. the second thing i didn't know was that there are only gogo bars. i like to sit in a bar, talk to the girls and select one rather than looking at nearly no motivated girls, swinging their sometimes fat hips. sorry boys but this is no bar hopping, this is gogo hopping.
after chosing a girl from butterfly rock for a week (looked like miss philippines but dead fish in bed, at least something for the eye) i headed to subic bay for another week. that's where the fun started for me. i had better gone there directly. beautiful girls. plenty of them. floating bars. great hotels. fantastic time.
so in my point of view:
skip angeles.
go to pattaya for hardcore and fun.
or.
go to subic bay for sun and fun and gfehas things changed at mbc? it's been about 6 months since the last time i went and i would only see one or two diamonds in the rough. a lot of them are a bit past their prime. if i wanted to go for looks, i'd hit up burgos street.
The Rooster1
04-17-12, 23:32
hi guys,
it was my first time in the philippines. i used to work in thailand for more than 6 years but never could make it there. so this time i wanted to spend my holiday in the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'s.
i started in manila and i was surprised about the manila bay cafe and couldn't close my mouth by how you are stormed by the most beautiful girls i have ever seen. never made it to the 2nd floor though. why should i pay for something i have downstairs? had 3 extraordinary hardcore nights with the girls, once 2 at once, and headed for a week to the famous angeles city. but what i saw i could not believe. i mean, if you know pattaya and have seen it, what the hell do you do in angeles city. it's basically one road (fields avenue) , maybe 3 or 4 kilometers long and nothing arround it. the second thing i didn't know was that there are only gogo bars. i like to sit in a bar, talk to the girls and select one rather than looking at nearly no motivated girls, swinging their sometimes fat hips. sorry boys but this is no bar hopping, this is gogo hopping.
after chosing a girl from butterfly rock for a week (looked like miss philippines but dead fish in bed, at least something for the eye) i headed to subic bay for another week. that's where the fun started for me. i had better gone there directly. beautiful girls. plenty of them. floating bars. great hotels. fantastic time.
so in my point of view:
skip angeles.
go to pattaya for hardcore and fun.
or.
go to subic bay for sun and fun and gfewhoever told you angeles was like pattaya was wrong! yes definitely not pattaya. yes subic is a good time, there are more bars than on fields and if those are the only bars you visited than you didn't get a good enough look to judge. in my opinion the girls in the pi are far more fun than the girls in thailand (i lived there to for a stint too). price is definitely cheaper than all of the places you have listed above and that is the draw for some people.
Jack James
04-19-12, 05:41
PI, espc AC girls are experts are playing part of jealous gf. They have always managed to make me feel guilty for bf'ing another girl even tho I may have only Bf her once / twice. Kind of strange when you know they fuck different guys everyday to Sunday when you are not here. I had one ready to quit the whole bar scene and leave AC with me to wherever I go. Even tells me she doesn't get BF anymore (only dance) and SKYPE / cam me every night after her shift as if. Took me a few weeks at home to get over her. Still trying to figure out how to 'avoid' her next time I'm in town as this place, I swear, is full of spies. I was just walking down Fields last time with her, she knows every other bar-girls outside pulling customer in. If not her sister, then one of her girlfriends used to work at same bar. I could be walking alone and occasionally her friends would remember me with a wink / smile even ask me where's my girl?
I think solution is just be honest with them. Say your a butterfly that would love to see her again, but also love to see others. I think the hot ones have no problem with these guilt trips because they know they can get Bf every night. But then my jealous girl is hot too come to think about it. But there are hotter ones I'm after.The only way to deal with jealous filippinas is in my excpierance is to tell them that you are a butterfly and you are not looking for girlfriend I always now tell them that this is the deal when I barfine them if we get along they can stay with me for no longer then 3 days so you don't get attached to them and I also tell them if they stay other girls will share the bed this works for me now they know were they stand.
Happy hunting
Undercoverh
04-21-12, 06:30
Just got back from an AC trip. Did the bar stuff. However, I also visted the above streets. Since I have not seen any postings here recently regarding Raymond and A. Santos streets, here is some info.
Raymond Street: Orchid Inn is located on this street. The cross street is Real Street (where Tropix Bar is located). Approximately 4 little open air bars here towards the back of the street on the right hand side. BBBJ is their claim to fame wihch includes sex for 700 for ST (one pop) which is 2 hours. Some of the bars open 24 hours. Can bang the girl in the rooms above the bar or take the girl back to your hotel. Nice change of pace from the go go bars. These girls are basic girls, not that pretty, but nice, and give good BBBJs and sex with condom. A word about looks. These girls are not ugly. As for me, since I am in my 50s, any Filipina that is between 18 and 23 looks good to me if she is nice and sweet. However, u can decide if these girls are your cup of tea. I like to sit and talk to the girls. But, they will quickly get to the point of wanting you to F them. LT is around 1200 to 1400 for 12 hours at your hotel (two pops,or more depending on the girl). For the price, it is not a bad deal. Most of the girls range in age from 18 to late 20s.
A. Santos Street: This street is the same street as Swiss Chalet Hotel. Pricing is the same as Raymond Street. Bars stay open late, but I do not think it is 24 hours. As for me, I like this street better. Only because I have had lots of fun with the girls from this street. But, try both streets for yourself and make your own judgement.
Tip: Tip is not required or expected. One girl gave me a wonderful BBBJ along with rough sex. She earned her tip and I gave her 200P tip. But, do not tip more than 200, even 100p is ok, or u do not need to give anything. One girl told me the split is 60 40, with 60% going to the bar.
For the price, you can take 2 girls for 1400 and bang them both in your room. Still a dam good price for 2 girls. If you are a big spender, take 3 for 12 hours and have a party. For the price of one girl at the high end bars at 3000, you could have 4 girls for 2 hours. Yes, these girls will be happy to all go with you at the same time. A. Santos street is often called BJ Row. I like both streets because the girls get right to the BBBJ when you get back to your room, then on to sex with a condom. They know guys come to these streets for the the girls BJ skills. With the go go bars, some girls do not like to do BBBJ. When you pick a girl from the A. Santos or Raymond, tell her you want a good long BBBJ and is she willing to be nice and do that for you. Screen your girl to see if she will be a good ST or LT date. But at 700, it is ok with me if it does not turn out great.
In AC, it is all about pricing based on looks of the girl. At the high end bars like DH, girls go for 3000 and the girls look better. DH also have girls for 1800 that like nice, but not as pretty as the higher priced girls. At A. Santos, the girls are not pretty and therefore go for 700. As for me, I like the 700 priced girls, they are more down to earth, they do not think they are cute and they tend to treat u nice if u are nice to them. I have been going to AC for about 15 years. When I was young and horny, many many years ago, I met a girl on A. Santos street and we really were a nice pair. We were in love -- for the time I was in AC. I paid to be with her for my entire time in AC which was 6 days. On the first day, it was sex with a condom. But after that, it was sex 3 or 4 times a day with no condom and cumming in her pussy and mouth. Now that I am older, I always use a condom and I would never take a risk like that now. Some of these girls will have sex with no condom for extra cash or if they like u. My advice, use a condom. These girls give BBBJ and CIM sometimes,and they may be having sex with other guys with no condom. Better to tbe safe then sorry.
I took so pics of A. Santos, I will try to post them here. For some reason, I am not able to post the pics now using this website.
WestCoast1
04-21-12, 15:09
Snip.
Some of these girls will have sex with no condom for extra cash or if they like you. My advice, use a condom. These girls give BBBJ and CIM sometimes, and they may be having sex with other guys with no condom. Better to tbe safe then sorry.Have had easily 100-200 girls in AC, and at least 50 from Santos. Only 3 ever mentioned a condom, and only one insisted on it. They have never mentioned to me charging extra for condom-less; in fact they just never mention it. I don't use them. I've jizzed in every orifice of many Santos girls, never to be asked for extra pay or a tip. The proof that they are fine with that? Most want a repeat, and they like bringing another girl along for the exact same treatment.
A Santos road and Raymond st: http://g.co/maps/4g3wt
Was once in AC, next trip definately will be visiting the said bars, not much into the barfine. Undercoverh Report has been sent to ROD.
Have had easily 100-200 girls in AC, and at least 50 from Santos. Only 3 ever mentioned a condom, and only one insisted on it.On my last two trips to AC, within the last year, I had about 12 girls combined. I think 4 mentioned "condom" before sex was about to take place. One girl even wanted condom for blow job also.
I was shocked at the increase in frequency I heard the girls say "condom" while in lying in bed naked. I couldn't believe I was in AC!
Have had easily 100-200 girls in AC, and at least 50 from Santos. Only 3 ever mentioned a condom, and only one insisted on it. They have never mentioned to me charging extra for condom-less; in fact they just never mention it. I don't use them. I've jizzed in every orifice of many Santos girls, never to be asked for extra pay or a tip. The proof that they are fine with that? Most want a repeat, and they like bringing another girl along for the exact same treatment.Reckless boasting makes absolutely no sense at all. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.
GosiwonBusan
04-21-12, 16:13
Went to AC for a week and had a lot of fun.
A few things things: I went to the Miss Magic Bar on Parameter. I got a bottle of Tequila, and agreed 1, 100. I didn't mind who drank it. OK, when the bill came it was 6, 000. I asked "WTF?" and was told that I paid 1, 100 for the bottle PLUS 70 per shot that a girl took from it (LD surcharge). I took the girl with her boobs out for a good time, but was pissed about the tequila price. The other negative I found, if you take the girls for food, drink, singing or anything pre sex, they say that they are tired and try shit on. I found it was best to bar fine, hotel for sex, then try bar hopping or whatever (often the girl is happy to sleep after sex). All the girls I met were upfront about "cherry" or "mens", and none drank more than 2 LD.
If you can't find pussy in AC you are screwed, but I will give my favorite a mention. Irene (yellow T) at D'club (near Jollybee at the end of Fields). Nice girl, GREAT massage, she actually knew what she was doing, and great pre sex (a good massage is something that I loved about Thailand).
All in all I had a great time, and recommend to anyone who hasn't been.
Went to AC for a week and had a lot of fun.
A few things things: I went to the Miss Magic Bar on Parameter. I got a bottle of Tequila, and agreed 1, 100. I didn't mind who drank it. OK, when the bill came it was 6, 000. I asked "WTF?" and was told that I paid 1, 100 for the bottle PLUS 70 per shot that a girl took from it (LD surcharge).I hate when bars do that. How many shots did they get out of that bottle LOL 50? You were ripped off big time and you should have said something. 70 peso is steep for LD drink when you have bought a bottle, usually 40-50 is what FIELDS AVE bars charge. Another bar people should be careful that constantly overcharges is golden nile (the one next to Cambodia). Its owned by the same group as Cambodia so if you take out a girl from cambo she can still get ladies drinks there so be careful
WestCoast1
04-21-12, 17:02
Reckless boasting makes absolutely no sense at all. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.Apology, I wasn't boasting. Like Amjek, I was stating that I rarely have girls mentioning a condom. They rarely do (just like indonesia). I make no claim that others should practice what I preach. To each his own.
On my last two trips to AC, within the last year, I had about 12 girls combined. I think 4 mentioned "condom" before sex was about to take place. One girl even wanted condom for blow job also.
I was shocked at the increase in frequency I heard the girls say "condom" while in lying in bed naked. I couldn't believe I was in AC!
GosiwonBusan
04-22-12, 13:02
Quick post before I go back to "lurking".
When I go into a bar if a girl looks at me, I go straight to the dance floor and talk before the mamasan can ask if I want a drink. You can get a feel for a girl before buying the LD (my opinion. Discuss).
So I went to Crystal Palace and met Nal (she has a tattoo on her back that says "BLOODS", you will recognised her). Took her home early, maybe 10. 30 (if you get a dud its best to know sooner rather than later). Sex on the bed, OK. Then we went for a shower, I put her on the sink and went for round two. Looked down and saw her squirting. I asked if that happened often, she said yes. Back to the bed for round 3. She orgasmed. Not porn star loud, but last for a few minutes. While we are paying for sex it is nice to see the girl enjoy herself, and it feels good.
Only note, she has a child who lives in AC so she goes home about 12, which was not a problem, she woke me up early (8am) for a few more rounds.
I look forward to returning to AC soon.
King Squared
04-22-12, 19:43
I hate when bars do that. How many shots did they get out of that bottle LOL 50? You were ripped off big time and you should have said something. 70 peso is steep for LD drink when you have bought a bottle, usually 40-50 is what FIELDS AVE bars charge. Another bar people should be careful that constantly overcharges is golden nile (the one next to Cambodia). Its owned by the same group as Cambodia so if you take out a girl from cambo she can still get ladies drinks there so be carefulYea, I hate Golden Nile. The mamasans always ask for tips (for what, I have no idea)? And the waitresses complain if I leave a 50 peso tip for 2 drinks.
Undercoverh
04-23-12, 07:03
On my last trip back to AC, last month, most of the clubs I went to do not have very pretty Filipinas. Therefore, I have a simple question. I would like to know the guys vote for the AC club that has the best looking Filipinas and the youngest girls? I went to Tropix, found one cute girl, but she had 3 kids. WTF. 3 kids, and she cost 1, 800. Is it just me, but a woman with 3 kids should not be priced at 1, 800. I went to Crystal Palace, and the price for the green tags is 3, 000. However, for 3, 000, they were not that cute. Maybe it was just the night I went on. Or, maybe the good looking ones had already left. Any advice or suggestions would be helpful. I will be going back to AC in 3 months.
WTF. 3 kids, and she cost 1, 800. Is it just me, but a woman with 3 kids should not be priced at 1, 800.No it's not just you. I wouldn't pay to fuck a mother! The sad thing is that many guys do pay for mother sex, that's why she is priced as such.
PattayaTony
04-23-12, 07:21
Yea, I hate Golden Nile. The mamasans always ask for tips (for what, I have no idea)? And the waitresses complain if I leave a 50 peso tip for 2 drinks.The managers a CT also
I'm not sure what you mean by "mother sex", but I suspect most of the posters here have had sex with someone's mother. Why is it "sad"? I prefer slim types so I often shortlist mothers, but I've had some great sex with gals who've done the mother thing. More than a few on my regular list.
I've barfined a nice tight looking bar girl and found out she's a mother of three. I have three reasons why I never barfined her again: 1 / smoked 2 / wasn't as GFE after the first round ended 3 / alcohol problems. Had nothing to do with her otherhood. (that was a typo, but I like it) Damn shame because she sure knew how to get naughty.
No it's not just you. I wouldn't pay to fuck a mother! The sad thing is that many guys do pay for mother sex, that's why she is priced as such.
OsakaGin11
04-23-12, 14:33
I also use my visa card and book online with cebu pacific without any trouble. The verified by visa extra password is the key. I do inform visa of my plans for international travel and fill in the security department on the info, I often book cebu pacific flights in advance of informing visa.
Only trouble I have had with cebu pacific is getting them to change flights after booking or trying to book a limited super-promo fare when everyone in the Philippines is trying to book the same flight all at once. Best way is to visit a cebu pacific office and deal direct for any changes.
Be aware that when booking a Clark-Cebu flight or vice-versa with cebu pacific, there is a load factor indicator that dictates if that flight is a go or a no. If the seats sold number is under the break even point the flight is cancelled and you will routed through Manila and put on the next Manila-Cebu flight and that can suck.I had the same problem with my BKK. Clark flight being cancelled at the last moment. Luckily I was still able to get on the BKK. Manila flight and Cebu. Pac. Provided the other effected passengers with a mini bus to Pampanga.
On my last trip back to AC, last month, most of the clubs I went to do not have very pretty Filipinas. Therefore, I have a simple question. I would like to know the guys vote for the AC club that has the best looking Filipinas and the youngest girls? I went to Tropix, found one cute girl, but she had 3 kids. WTF. 3 kids, and she cost 1, 800. Is it just me, but a woman with 3 kids should not be priced at 1, 800. I went to Crystal Palace, and the price for the green tags is 3, 000. However, for 3, 000, they were not that cute. Maybe it was just the night I went on. Or, maybe the good looking ones had already left. Any advice or suggestions would be helpful. I will be going back to AC in 3 months.Most bars have different types of girls that would appeal to different clients. You for instance are not into moms but others are. Some guys prefer big butts others spinners and so on. Best advice I can give you is try and find when shifts start in few bars and visit then before other punters have collected the girls that you may find appealing. I personally prefer to visit few bars get a drink in each look at the talent and if I find what I am looking for then I barfine. If its still early I visit my favorite bar (and this is based on music, atmosphere, price and plenty of other reasons not so much girl related) then go back to the hotel.
Manfield04
04-23-12, 17:06
Nice Pic! Hope she'll still be there till August when I'll visit Angeles City.
So I went to Crystal Palace and met Nal (she has a tattoo on her back that says "BLOODS", you will recognised her).
Transporter
04-25-12, 08:42
I would like to no if anyone can tell me the good and bad about flying into HKG and take Cebu Pacific or SEAir. I want to try it because I can get a good price into HKG and would get into AC around noon. What I need to know is do I need a visa for China if I only have a 3 hour layover. What are the seats like because I am bigger the chinnesse passangers they regularly fly and what is the baggage allowed on the flight because it is a three week trip. Also will it be a pain with the ticket counter, tranfer a new termanal or any other helpful info. I made the trip to MNL many time but that was when Korean Air had a morning flight that I could connect to. Thanks for the help.HKG is a great place to fly into.
It will not be a problem as there are only 2 terminals.
You do not need a visa for Hong Kong even if you did leave the terminal, only if you enter China.
I wouldn't know anything about the seats as that depends upon the airline that you use. If you are using China air, then its the same as all the other carriers, as they use airbus.
No it's not just you. I wouldn't pay to fuck a mother! The sad thing is that many guys do pay for mother sex, that's why she is priced as such.Atleast this girl was honest. Girls only say they have kids if they have to fuck and go home.
On a couple of instances girls admitted loose pussy because they have a kid. They said no kids in the bar.
Me too hate to fuck girls with kids in AC. But from MBC in Manila very rarely you find a girl without kids.
Richard9429
04-25-12, 18:48
Hi There,
Anyone have planned a trip to AC from 25 to 29 May 2012 or interested. I turned out to be alone as I was not able to get leave due to some customer engagements. So my friends will be there on 7 May 12. I have been there a few years back. Stayed in Blue Nile.
Please let me know if any one is interested, if not I have to be solo.
Rgds.
Richard
On a couple of instances girls admitted loose pussy because they have a kid. They said no kids in the bar.I've returned girls to the bar and got my money back because they lied about not having a kid. So, for those guys who don't like mothers, you can get your money back if she lies to you.
ThickTrick
04-27-12, 09:38
Young looking 40 something american. In shape and attractive. No problem attracting ladies.
Experienced monger, angeles virgin. Looking for a wingman to hang with and maybe show me around a little.
Respond here or text me at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
Thanks,
John
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Dflostrife
04-27-12, 10:44
Hello my fellow mongers, I will be in Angeles this Sunday for about 13 days.
And will post some reports hopefully as I go about.
If there is anyone there hit me up.
I've returned girls to the bar and got my money back because they lied about not having a kid. So, for those guys who don't like mothers, you can get your money back if she lies to you.How did you find out that girl had kids? I assume because she told you? With asian girls it is difficult to find out if they have kids or not because they are slim and they have small breasts. With African girls you can just have a look for breasts and you know if they have kids or not. Her tummy had marks of kids?
Next time this same girl will sweare that she has no kids, so she will have no problems with customer. Loose pussy is relative thing, some girls are more tigh and some are loose, you cannot use that as prove that girl has kids.
Most of the girls in all countries in this profession are working because they have to support their kid because asshole father has left and is not supporting.
So it is mostly young mothers and her kid (s) that we are supporting with our small contribution for their small service. So we mongerers are actually good guys
I've returned girls to the bar and got my money back because they lied about not having a kid. So, for those guys who don't like mothers, you can get your money back if she lies to you.As you should have. One of the great mysteries in this life is why, why would someone pay to have sex with a girl / women who has a child or children, caesarian or otherwise.
WestCoast1
04-28-12, 12:48
How did you find out that girl had kids? I assume because she told you?When you get back to the room, just say to her: "Tell me about your kids." About half the girls from the bars who said (in the bar) that she has no kids will just start telling you about her son or daughter. Its like they forgot that they said they had no kids 20 minutes prior. If you don't like mommies, thats the time to take her back.
Member #4152
04-30-12, 01:05
What's the going rate now days in Angeles for ST and LT? It's been like 3 years since the last time I've been in Angeles and I think I should make a return trip soon.
From my home board, posted two months ago there, sorry this is so late.
Well, I started off with the best intentions of writing a very detailed trip report as I went along, but really only did that for a few days. So, what you get here is a bit of that writing, plus some after the fact analysis. I will intersperse the onsite reports as appropriate, but will provide a general sense of the scene and what I thought of mongering in the PI in general.
I always like to start my trip report off with the punchline, and I can say that from the perspective of sex and my time with the women, this was by far my best 'first' trip ever. Better than my first time in CR, MDE, Pattaya, Peru- best first trip ever. Of course, repeat trips can get better as you have developed favorites with whom things become almost magical over time (although these always have shorter shelf lives than we wish). But from the perspective of the propotion of indiviual session with extremly good looking women who are a fantastic blend of PSE / GFE, it would be hard to beat the PI, at least from my perspective.
Two weeks was enough for a taste, but far not long enough.
So, lets start with some basics. First, I was shocked, floored, blown away at how sexy and beutiful the women were. Now, that is not ALL the women, not by any means. The bottom half of women in the bars and on the street are very unattractive to me. I would say than 30 percent are cute. Ten percent are phucking hot, and ten percent are off the phucking charts sexy. I was with four or five women each of which were close to my physical ideals. The great thing is, there is enough diversity of looks and body type that almost anyone can be happy. I tended to go with the 'fat girls, ' or the girls who thought they were fat. These were the women who were perhaps 5 feet tall and mabye weight 100 pounds instead of being 80 pounds- really porkers. I would say the heaviest girl I was with was perhaps 125 puonds, and she was about five four, and had natural near D cups.
As far as faces- there is a huge variety of looks-this is a very diverse gene pool. One chica I took bar finded in Anegles looked like she was perhaps twenty five percent Asain and the rest Irish. Her skin was nearlly as white as mine, creamy and delicous. Another girl from one of the provences was one of the darkest girls I have ever seen, skin so black it nearllly shinned, and the most amazing lips. That is what stood out for me, the most amazing sexy lips.
Now, lets talk personalities. I have travled a great deal throughout the world, and prior to my mongering days dated a great deal, and dated a couple of Filipinas back in the day. I always had wondererful memories of how each of these girls were just so fun, silly, passionate, goofy, ect. And the women I encountered in the PI did not disapoint- more than anywhere I have travelved, more than any group of people I have encounted, I enjoyed the women more than any others. This was not just the working girls, but those whom I encountered while working (part of the trip) , in hotels, reteraunts, salons, offices, ect. Just the most delightful group of women I have ever encounted. I was blown away. In many ways, they are the anti Paisas (whom I also love). There is little overtly dignified, there are few pretences, they are more Barney than Bardoux, but somehow the whole comes across with such a deep sense of grace and humanity (which says something when about 18 that I encounted engaged in major ball licking and C*m slurping!).
Ok. So now lets talk venues. I hit three, Angeles, Subic / Barrio Barretto, and Manila. Lets start with Angeles City, or AC, which those of you who want to come for mongering only will proably want to focus on. Now, let me tell you something about me. I like San Jose Costa Rica. I think people who call it a pit are those who have not really done much besides mongering. San Jose has a ton of cultural activities, IF you look for them and if you are fluent. There is jazz, poetry, art. There are lectures, there are the universities-there are the markets- THERE IS CULTURE. It is not a pit, but certainly may seem so if you are a lover of the American suburb and mini mall. I like gritt, I like funk. I like the market slums of Tegucigalpa. I have spent countless hours in poor barios in Mexico City. I love the seedier parts of Lima. So, it is with this in mind that I say to you.
Angeles City is a pit. It is perhaps the ugliest city on the planet, a place so dark and hideous that it is near unfathnomble.
And, it might just be the most amazing place on the planet for pleasures of the flesh. There are god knows how many dozens of bars, the vast majoirty located on a long street called Fields, or an extention of it called Paremeter. Within a five or so block area there are perhaps fifty clubs, with women ranging in age from 18-40 or so, with the vast majority between 18-25. Most of these are go go bars, with between perhaps 15 and 100 women. Some are small and funky, especially down Peremeter road, some are glitzy and 'pro. ' There are three tipes of women in these clubs (basically, there are other roles as well, such as mamasan, but three types of women that you can take out and Phuck) , door girls, waitresses and dancers. All are on the menu, but NONE are on the menu. That is, each CAN go home with you, but NONE have to. That is the beuaty of the place- a girl is allowed to refuse you, and there are reasons why she may. She may be on the rag, she may not feel good, she may think your nasty and smelly, she may be a cherry girl (a virgin) who does not go home with guys or may just go home and orally copulate them. So, while 90 percent of the girls will go with you at any given time, the fact that ten percent may not actaully spices things up a bit- at least for me.
What is also different is that you do not pay the girl directly, but the bar. This is what is called the EWR or Early Work Release. Come on, you got ot love that. An Early Work Replease is paid to the club to buy the girl's time out, as when she is with you she will not be making money for the bar in ladies drinks, or will not be preforming her other functions (I. E. Waitress or door girl). You are under no obligation to pay the girl anything, but tipping is common for good service. EWR range from (and this if for LONG TIME, or All night, if that is what you clear with the girl, some can stay and some cannot) 28 bucks. 46 bucks, with a few crazy places charging over 70 bucks for their best girls (although I did not find these better looking than the other girls, go figure).
More to come later.
Here is one of the entries that I actually wrote while I was 'on the ground. ' There are about four of them, and I will include them as I go along with my report / description of the place.
Dinner at a local Korean restaurant. The food is good, but service is slow. Koreans hold a special place in this town, special in their influence, and special in the acramony that many of the women and staff have toward them. Many of the girls find them hard, difficult, and less than pleasurable. What is fansicnating is how different, nearly diametrically opposed, are Korean and Pinoy culture- its an amazing thing to watch them together, more Venus and Mars than most male / female parings. But I digress.
After dinner, a stroll down Fields. It is Saturday night, so the place is rocking. For those of you who have never been to a mongering venue with tons of place side by side (I. E. Pattaya, BKK, Amsterdam, Frankfurt red light) , it is really an intense expereiince. Picture the first time you are in the DR, that feeling of 'oh my God, I made it! '- it is like that, but perhaps maybe more intense. Some people would say it is like that times 100, but it is just different. The sheer magnitude makes it not 'better' but different- I mean, how many women can be be with at one time (five is the max for me, and that was in Costa Rica at the old Dungeon!). The sheer numbers of venues in a place like this can lead to a sense of overload- but what a total rush, feeling of power, feeling of total libertry and choice- it is almost too much.
Anyhow, I walk up and down the Walking street area of Fields three or four times, just to take in the vibe. It is the job of the door girls, many of whom are very good looking, to lure you inside. Each place has their own standard uniform, or in the case of 'Tight Jeans' or 'Texas', a generic code that guides dress (I. E. Cowboy hats and western wear in Texas). Its very cute. The door girls hollar out at you 'Voodoo sir' or 'Come into Forbidden City. ' Come into Forbiddn city indeed!
About the four passes through, I am stopped in my tracks in front of the wonderfully names 'One Eyed Wench (I mean, who can resist that name, and who amoung you has not wanted to Phuck a one eyed wench?). What is it that has locked my feet into the ground and pulled my eyes toward it as if god has appeared in front of me? A perfect, perfect 10. I mean, to me, a 10 is not something you just throw around as a rating. To me, supermodel hot is a 9- a 10 is that hot with just something extra, some deep and profound sensuality that transends the looks. Well, there she is, a door girl in a tight par of jeans with a perfect little ass, B / C cup, flat, flat stomach, but enough muscule tone that gives look of your yummy gym rat- pefrect. The face is out of this world. I almost never just go with a girl on looks alone- I have to feel a chemistry. But, I am phucking this one even if she is the most sour.ussed ***** in the world, even if she is the emodiment of money grubbing skank. For the 1500 paso EWR (34 bucks) , even if she terms out to be a frigid matress bag I will see god ever second while inside her.
I walk up to her, and she is better looking up close- OMFG. Within a minute, we are in the bar, I buy her a lady drink. For the next fifteen minutes, she is sweet, playful, flirtatious, sexy. When she goes to the bathroom one of the watresses comes up to me and I tell her I want to bar fine her. The waitress tells me that I will have to ask her, that she does not bar fine that often. SHIT. Well, she is back, so I figure I better ask right away, cut my losses, and find some consolation prize to assuage my sadness over not being able to do this godess. So, I ask her- she throws her arms around me and kisses me passionatly. She starts to dirty dance for me- all the guys are now watching and shaking their heads- I can't believe I am going to Phuck this girl.
Fast forward- we are back in my room within a half hour. Her body is flawless. She is going down on me within five minutes, and her head is excellent, (with toungue ring) total PSE. Not as long as I would wish for, but total PSE. She kisses the whole time we Phuck. We Phuck, rest, Phuck again, and finally I finish in doggie. Cuddle, one more time in mish for about an hour- we are both covered in sweat. I am looking down at her, she is licking her lips like a porn star, but still kissing. Me between licks- am I really phucking this women! What a sight! Given that I am on V, I have to go as hard as I can to come, she has this wide eyed look and says to me 'You are breaking my pu*sy! ' Being the gentleman I am I start to slow down- she says, I sware to god 'It ok to break my pu*sy. Break my pu*sy! '
Needless to say, I did not last long after that.
She is supposed to stay the night, but after about four hours of this, she starts making hints about leaving. I forget what excuses she starts to give. This is what they call a 'runner'- a girl who says she will stay the night, but the starts to find reasons to leave. At this point, I don't care- she preformed masterfully, and while she is not the 'real' GFE type in her being all cuddly after the fact and wanting to stay the night, her performance was outstanding during the act (s) , and was totally everything I could have wanted. I could have argued and I am sure that she would stay, but I am happy to sleep alone and bask in the memories. She is the only one the whole trip that asked to leave in before the morning after negotiating for a morning departure. A few times I sent them home early, but that was on my terms. For fifty dollars, I C*m twice with with a perfect angel over several hours. If this is what a runner is here, than I am all for it.
(as a side note, I see her several times during the next few days. She kisses me passionatlly each time on the street, and promises to stay the night each time. She is 21 going on 19, a total colleague sophomore type, and is full of laughter and playfulness. She is a godess for sex and lust. For some reason, I do not go with her again, but that just tells you how amazing each session was). Oh, and I am not sure I ever really knew her name!
so what to write about angeles in general? well, there is very, very little to do except have sex. well, that or drink. if you are going to phuck 24/7, or drink and phuck the whole day, than there is little need to figure out what to do with your time. i like down time, unstructured time, and so time alone in a hotel room for me with 'nothing' to do is priceless. if downtime without a lot to do is not for you, and you are not a five time a day phuck machine or drunk- you may find it boring. there are a few things to do. for example, you can have a good massage either in one of the many massage joint for about 8 dollars, or for about 10 bucks delivered to your room. i had two hours of massages every day in my room. not as good as los, but not bad at all. i would say about half of the massage girls will do happy endings, although i only accepted once to save my super sauce for the cuties. then there is the mall. you can wander the mall and shop or people watch- it is a target rich envionrment if you want to go for non pros.
now, about freelancers in angeles. the general rue of thumb is avoid, avoid, avoid, epecicially one's walking the streets. there are many stories out there about rip offs and scams. girls who call friends to the room to rob you, und*ge girls, and other assorted problems. the general sense on some of the pi websites is that there are soo many clubs and bars that will hire a good looking (or average looking) women, that if she is on the street and working she is either ****d, drugged out, or a crook. the price of women in clubs is so cheap, the general wisdom is that it is just not worth it. there are two freelance discos- sky tracks and highsociety- went twice to each with women i ewr (again, barfine) , and saw some good looking women, but decided to heed the warnings. again, just so many bars with hot women in angeles i did not bother. both are fun places to dance, however, and if you are careful and interview well, i am sure you can find some good women.
so no, about the clubs. which ones did i go to? shit, i popped my head into perhaps 40 or so, some just to quickly walk through, but i had a drink at most (about half the time a coke light or pinaapple juce, sometimes a san miquel, and sometimes a mixed drink). i like a couple of drinks a night, but am not a huge drinker each and every night. drinks for you range from happy hour specials of a buck or so to a couple of bucks. think about it, you can nurse your beer for a good long time while watching dancers what you can take home whenever you wish- not bad.
when you feel like some company, you merelly call over one of the women and offer her a lady drink. lady drinks run from about 3-4 bucks and get you some private time with the hotie of your choice. again, remmember, not only are the dancers often on the menu, but the waitresses and the door girls as well. women get a percentage of the lady drinks, and so it is one of the ways they make their living, so they are most appeciative of it. during your time with her, depending on the girl, you can touch her lightly or more than lighly- use descrection and respect her bounderies; a few girls made it clear they were very happy for me to be toucy and for us to make out, others were not comfortable with pda. don't be a pig; if the women is not into pda, wait to get to the bedroom. there are plenty of more hard core girls who are willing to be gropped and foundled if that is your thing in the bar.
now, not only will you initiate lady drinks, but you will be approached by those who want you to buy them drinks. this varies greatly by bar. for instance, in forbidden city, you are constantly bothered for ladies drinks by women who will try to get to know you. in other bars, such as the small and fun texas or the larger and high quality camelot, you will be left alone a bit more.
which are the best clubs? who phucking knows! it depends on the vibe of the day, the night, the week, your mood, ect. you will find your own groove. i loved ponytails, the first bar that is considered 'permimter' but still very close to fields. i also liked one eyed wench, texas and aloha. however, once i barfined from one place, i often would not return as to make sure i have fresh meet.
the exception of this was one place on blow row (i forget the name, but the first one walking down from fields on the right side) where i barfined the same daytime girl three times (one of the greatest blowjobs i have ever had, omg). this is one of the few palces where you can get a women shortime, which is two hours, for 20 bucks, or longtime for about 32. in case you go, her name is irah some something like that (sounded like ira, and not, she was not a lady boy). cute women, great blowjob, and very good phuck. sweet girl too, one day we phucked few times over a mellow afternoon that i had her for longtime.
as far as hotels, i stayed in the royal amsterdam, in one of their larger rooms. it was 60 bucks for a very nice room with an excellent bed. i would reccomend you spend a bit more money on a room than you might in a place with lots to do during the day- these rooms are about on par with the better rooms at the la amistad-worked well for me. there are a few high end places and lots of places down peremeter for under 20 plus bucks.
food- those who disparage the food don't learn it, or eat shit food in gringo places. philipino food is one of the great culanary traditions of the world. i have loved it for years, and find it silly to read follks here and on other boards talk about cat and dog. some of the sauses are as sophisticated and wonderful as anythig east of paris or peru. you can get wonderful cheap meals of high quality cooked with love for under 3 dollars at the many mom and pop places in town. near the bus station there are a bunch. research the food before you go, learn the names, and yes, you can easily recongize the meats (pork and fish are huge) , and yes, there is a lot more than adobo. as good as thai food (which i love!) , mabye, mabye not. but do some reading and you will be rewarded.
in town, there are also plenty of gringo places to get a burrito or burger- i had none. lots of palces for 24 hour food, including phillys sports bar for breakfasts. if korean or japanese food is your thing, there are several good places around town, as there are a lot of korean and japanese tourists (and business owners) in town. the korean place on the far end of fields is very good (right near texas and tight jeans).
sessions- omg, sessions are great. bbbj was always offered. most girls are pretty good, but there is some inexperience. however, even the two most inexperienced women i had took instructution very well. salad tossing was at about fourty percent without asking. 70 percent with. i don't know about bareback, but my sense is that you could do so if you wish, i think it is phucking nuts! kissing? yeah, no problem with ninety percent of the women. if it is important to you, ask her when you are discussing taking her, or ask her for a kiss. most of the women i went with were great kissers, as i said, i find pinoys to have the best lips ever.
positions- good overall cowboy. many have great little round asses for doggy. some of the smaller women don't take a hard pounding like i like to dish it out as well as girls with an 'extra' 10 pounds- part of why i don't like 'spinners. ' most of the women really got into phucking.
oh, funny, nearly one that spoke english worth a damn moaned 'shit' during hard phucking. very cute.
mongers- many, many down and out auzzies and former us service men. omg, a very washed up group, by and large. twenty years of hard booze and fast women phuck you up. lots of koreans in town- they tend to keep to themselves. the women complain about the mayla and indiana guys; whether true or not they say they smell badly and are disrespectful.
speaking of grooming- why do guys look their worst while mongering? i never get it. its like a lot of them try to be as rank as humanily possible and expect gfe. there girls do an amazing job at their job- if you saw some of the nasty fucks i saw you would be shocked at the prospect of giving them gfe.
that said, you can basically dress however you wish. shorts and tshirts are common. i am a jeans and dress shirt guy no matter where i monger- i don't give a phuck what you say, the women appeciate it, and i am more comfortable. if i feel like a sexy *****, i act like a sexy *****. that makes them sexy bitches- human phucking nature. money is your ticket to ride; the quality of the ride depends on you just as much as them.
they also were very appeciative of a good colonge and good hygene, as are all women.
laundry- laudry services are cheap.
ed meds. you cannot escape someone trying to sell you vitamin v or c. a good price is 100 pesos (2 and a half bucks) for a box of four. i had no problems with it, and most guys have said they have had no problem. whatever your conformtable with, you can't walk five minute without somone trying to sell you some. the boxes look legit, as do the pills and seals, but who phucking knows.
to be continued.
Subic, first of all, is the name of a Bay, and the former name of a military instillation. The real town, or town nearby, is Olongapo, which is also the name of the provence (I think). The actual mongering area is called Barrio Barretto- more on this soon. Getting to the Barrio Barretto and the hotels by the beach, which is atually called Baloy beach, is easy. There are several shuttles that go from Angeles from between 12 and 15 bucks. Since I booked a room at Kokomos on Baloy beach, I took a shuttle I booked through the AC Kokomos. Kokomos AC is basically accorss the street from the Royal Amsterdam, so easy breezy.
BTW, I am not sure I provided a strong enough reccomendation for the Royal Amsterdam. I found the staff wonderful- professional, accomidating, and fun. And, the women that work the front counter mostly are very cute, and never blinked or treated me differently when I brought assorted hookers all hour of day or night. Always a plesent smile and responded to any quest or need.
On the van ride over to Subic, I rode with a group over other mongers, once of whom I would hang out with some in Manila.
You have basically two 'places' to stay- Baloy Beach or right in Barrio Barreto. To get to the bars from Baloy, you can walk during the day in about 15-20 minutes to the start of the row, or take a trike for a buck. Most people think that it is safe to walk during the night, but my gut said to take the trike. The advantage of Baloy is that it is one the bay / beach- while not world class, it is plesant, especially at sunset.
I stayed at Kokomos, which is right on the beach. I would not stay there again, as for 55 bucks, the rooms are overpriced. I stayed in one of the themed rooms facing the water- the Jungle Room. Picture plaster lions and tigers and leopord striped sheets covering a horrible bed and the least fung shway room in the world. Tons of hard edges to tear your skin on drunk or sober.
My first day I want to the 'floating bar' in front of the hotel's sister hotel, two doors down, Treasure Island. When you stay at Kokomos you can also use the TI pool-that is a good perk. The floating bar is more cool, to me, in theory than in practice. It is basically a barge bar that you get out to by guys pulling a platforem against the water. The talent, as I stated, on this one was the best of all the bars, but not great. Once there, you are sort of captive to a couple of dozen desperate working girls hoping you will buy them drinks (and they ask often) or barfine them. I had three attach themslelves too me, and after buying them a drink, I selected a cute not hot girl from the pack. Very girl next doorish, I barfined her at 6, went back for some early boom book, when bar hopping with her, and then back for a night of boom boom. Good sex, nothing to write home about. The next day, during the evening, would be different.
A local group here, known as the Son Of Baccus, holds a weekly dance contest on Friday evening. Teams from 8 of the local strip clubs compete. This week, the contest is at lLps. The entrenece fee for guys is 12 bucks, not bad considering that it is all you can drink and there was some food provided. All you can drink is usually wasted on me, but its not like it breaks the bank.
The place is packed, mongers and teams of Filipinas in various uniforms and costumes from representing their bars in the competition. The girls take this very, very seriously- not clear how much money is involvedf or them, but there was clearly a lot of pride on the line. They are in small groups in various corers and sides of the bar practicing their dance moves, getting feedback from each other. Not only are dancers that are competing there, but other dancers to cheer them on (and of course, to try to drum up future EWRs by their presence. I decide to shoot a few games of pool of a very cute LIPs waitress, and am shocked that I am not shooting poorly, given that I was having a hard tome focusing with all these groups of dancers prancing about.
Then, I saw her. OMFG, where did this one come from. Not near five feet, the most beutful near black eyes, and a very full C cup, and an ass that looks more Ipamema than Asian. I am in love. This is another near ten in my book- she is smiling with her friends, totally un-self concious, and abosoloutly perfect. Dangers legs and flat stomach- just enough muscle to make her look like a gym rate. I cannot stop looking at this one, in spite of a good hundred other women in the bar. Wow. So, I am staring far too much, and somehow, her friend (coworker) seems to think it is she that is the center of my gaze, so I am forced to retreat a bit and watch from afar.
Of course, I could have gone up to her and talk to her, but I think you get a really nice chance of seeing a women's personality when she is spending time with freinds / coworkers. My future love, Donna, is all smiles and laughs with her freinds, a good sign.
Fast forward, the competitoin begins. Really fun dance rutines, very energetic. This contrasts to to what you often get when the girls are just dancing on stage- often they just sort of do this zombie like sway that is more body snatchers than porn movie.
Then it is time for the Angel Witch dancers (love the name) , and Donna is on stage. I don't know what to say, other than I am hard as a rock during the whole thing, viagra hard, and have not had any for days. This girl knows how to move- shaker her ass and tits, paying careful attention to her dance moves while still eluding sexuality. I cannot stand it. I mean, there are mabye 20 other very good looking women in the room, but this one is just perfect to me. Clearly a provence girl, her skin tone is far darker than most African American women. She appears more Island than Aisan, if that make sense. Her eyes are more round- she appears Polynesian. Her lips are round and fun.
Above is the only part that I wrote while on site, but after she danced, I spoke to Donna for a about fifteen minutes before she went back to her bar. Terrible English, but not important. Again, another one I had to have. After a quick bite to eat, I went to barfine her, as I promised. Now, if you actaully follow through on a promise with these women, they are gratful. They get so many 'bolo bolo' (lies) that when you actaully show your not a prick they are often grateful. I spent two nights with Donna, and she was just fantastic. Sex four hours, which while not mindblowing, very very good, and totally GFE sweet and fun. Between rounds, she cuddle up on my chest and I just spent hours rubbing her skin. We would talk on the beach, Phuck some more, and I just could not get enough of this princess. Both nights she stayed until about 10am, leaving only upon my cue.
I only have four nights in Subic, so the last day I was not sure what I wanted to do my last day. Oh, before I forget, I ate most of my meals at a little local place on Baloy called Lucky Mikes. Lucky Mike's is a convenience store resteraunt, and the food is very, very good. All homecooked food that the family wants to eat themslves. Mike is a Filipino transplant from the Bay Area who came back to take over the family business. Mom is still there, as are several cousins, one of whom is very cute, and 'single and ready to mingle' for those of you looking for more. Do try a meal or two there- you won't be disapointed. Mike is also a straight up guy who is trust worthy with good info. If you need a longer term place to stay, he rents room or can give referrals.
My last night was odd. I was going to go back to see Donna, but actaully found myself back at Lips first for a drink. As soon as I started to eye the pool table, this total fox comes up and asks me to play. Now, this girl is not a 10. She is a phucking 11. She is my physical ideal, meaning she has an extra 10 pounds and is built more Latina than Asian. She is so phucking cute, and totally light skinned- she looks like the college freshman gymnast at a large Southern univeristy at putting on her freshman 15- pefect for me. All tits and ass, and a tommy that is flat execpt for the smallest amount of extra- I love it. We shoot, flirt, I buy her a drink. We dance together- she 'makes' me dance on stage to Shakira (I know, I know, leave it to the dancers, but this was on her instistance). The owner buys me a couple of drinks and her a lady drink- nice tough. All is perfect, I am in a sexual trance and have to have her. So, I pop the question-would you like to leave with me and stay until the morning. I can't. Ok. What time can you stay until? No, I can't, I have a boyfreind and I don't want to cheat on him.
Really? Phucking really? She won't Phuck around on her Auzzie sex tourist boyfriend. I try to convince her, offer her a large tip. Don't tempt me please, I love him, and don't want to ruin things. Phuck. Shit. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Damn. Now, even if I could move her off of her most noble chastity, the mood is killed. I pay up and leave. I am forlorn. What am I going to do? Go home and sleep? I don't want anyone else! Beat off? Phuck.
Plan B- I will drink. I will drink to the point of flacidity, take someone back, come in their mouth and sleep. I will not Phuck, I will just C*m, kick someone out, and sleep.
Good plan. I go bar hopping, three or four bars, and then wind up in Bar Barreto (I think). There, a very cute women in her mid twenties chats me up. So is so sweet and cute, nothing foxy, just pleasent and fun. How long have you been in the bar? Two weeks.
Two weeks? I don't want two weeks, I want an experienced nasty C*ck sucker. I am not down for GFE, I want a working girl tonight (sorry this is not very nice, I was in a mood and then some). Maybe she is lying.
I find mamason and ask, without her nearby. Two weeks. Return to cutie.
How many men have you been with at the bar. None. No, really, you don't have to pretend with me. None. How many men have you been with in your life. One.
One. One. I want a working girl and have found a near Sandra Dee. I lose out on Mr. Perfect only to fine myself with a girl who will be more nerous than a church mouse.
Phuck. Shit. Damn.
But what a minute Hank, this is special. This is cool and fun. Can you flip your attitude and turn this into something good?
I shake off my mood. I would like to be your first man here, I would like to treat you very well, like my girlfriend, I will make it special for you.
She is thrilled. I have never seen such gratitude before. I mean, the sincere appeciation on her face was worth the 30 bucks for the EWR, regardless of how bad the sex would be.
Ok, no blow by blows her, but I had a great time. Had to really go slowly (well, did not have to, but wanted to be a nice guy). Not too nice, as once we got in bed the blow job, ball licking and yes salad tossing lessons began. What she did not pocess in skill she made up for in enthusiasm. The girl stayed on the nuts for a half hour or so. Sex was GFE and sweet, long and slow. I finished, and as agreed upon, she left at three so she could be home with her K*D in the morning.
So you see, all types of experinces are possible in the PI-as point and shoot as the sex is, there are often women who prior would never have immagined themslves working in bars. While there are certainly many hardcore hookers, many are just sweet local girls or those form the provences who want a better life for their K*ds.
So, my last night in Subic is with a near virgin- how often do you get that at the Del Rey!
I liked Subic- its mellow. Again, this is not the cultural mecca, but at least it is near Olongapo which is a real town to explore. After this, I go back to Angeles for three or four nights. Actually, which I spent more time in Subic.
Next trip.
More to come about Angeles, mabye some more thoughts on Subic, and then Manila.
Manila Intro.
Manila.
First, if you do not like megacities, stay the Phuck away. If Lima, Bogota, Mexico City, or Bangkok leave you frustrated and ill- stay the Phuck away. Manila is everything a megalopolis should and should not be. It is hell if you have no patience, are culturally imperialistic, thinking that everything should run the way it does in the US, or have no desire to get stuck in an hour plus traffic jam.
I dug Manila- a lot. I wish I had stayed a lot longer than three nights, and wish I had stayed in several parts of the city. Manila is like many mega cities, it is represents the darkest of the dark, and all the hope and hopelessness that humanity can offer.
Plus, there is some fine pu*sy in Manila.
But, it usually, not nearly as cheap as Subic or AC.
The first thing to know- the map lies. As least my interpretation of the scale of the city was way the hell off. On the map, it felt like I could stay in Ermita or Malati and easily make it to Makati in in moments, or perhaps even walk.
No way. No how, forget about it. Each of these are not an area, but an actual city in and of itself. Manila is not a city like Bogota or Lima, but really a conglomerate of small, independently administered cities. It is much more like Los Angeles this way than say Chicago.
It is big. Think 12 million people big. It is poor. It is poorer than poor. It is so poor that you can't even believe how poor it is in parts. I lived with a girl and her family in a poor barrio of Managua in the 1980s for a month; I mean, a shack, basically. I shit down a hole. I slept in a room with 10 people- I was in love, but this is not the point. I know poverty.
Shit man, this hit me. Blocks and blocks of shacks where they should not be, stacked up, one on top of the other. In Ermita, right near the Bay Cafe (big freelance bar, to be discussed later) , there were bodies all along several blocks. It felt like the body snatchers.
Contrast this to Greenbelt- trendy mall supreme. Amazing outdoor cafes and restaurants, perhaps the most lovely manicured walking area (man made) I have ever seen. Mesa, a Filipino fusion restaurant, was one of the better meals I have ever had. Gucci. Prada. High end stuff.
For a single guy looking for love, with patience and time? Please, one of the most target rich environments I have seen for love, sex, or anything in between.
And in this lovely spot is the Havana Cafe. Trendy Cuban Fusion spot outdoors. And what do they have here? Freelancers. I went twice, and there were perhaps twenty one night and thirty or so the other sipping mix drinks or beers (crappy mixed drinks, sadly) , making it very clear they are with the program. Ages are a bit older than the clubs, perhaps between 22 and 35. They 'look' fairly classy.
I was with a wingman who was showing me around. For about an hour, we flirted with a group of attractive women in their thirties who ranged from a 3 to an 8. I was tempted by the eight, who was elegant (in appearance) and a very lovely 35 year old. However, we had the Burgos street bars to do.
This is a place I long to return with one of my main traveling buddies- I can see us having lovely dinners each night at a different cafe, phucking our brains out with the affectionate lovelies, living the life of temporary urbanite sophistication of Makati. I felt like I was in the westside of LA, or perhaps Miami, except for the ubiquitous presence of poorly dressed fat men in shorts and crappy Hawaiian shirts or dirty t shirts (shit men, have some phucking self respect).
A note. As mentioned in the AC section, freelancers in the PIs come with risks. You MUST make sure they are over 18. You must make sure that you use your better judgment. You must make sure that she has an I'd and leaves it the reception of your hotel. You must watch for scams. You must trust your gut. And if it seems too good to be true, if she is promising you a freebie and she is out of your league- run.
Burgos Street.
After hanging out for a while at the Havana Cafe, we do a stroll around. In front of the outdoor part of the resteraunt, a bunch of women hang out looking for tricks. So, imagine it this way. Some women are drinking and paying for their drinks, others cannot. Which would you think to be the classier lot (and perhaps, more expensive?).
Bingo, inside has real women, outside is filled with laldyboys and some girls of dubious ages. Not only are you a suck Phucker if you mess with the young ones, but you are out of your mind- the scams here can lead to major police involvement- check ideas.
Anyhow, we stroll around, the far better looking WOMEN are on the outside patio. It is lovely area to walk around and hand, and now with the breeze it is almost pleseant.
Oh, did I mention the weather here? It is hot as ball. Or it is hot as perpetual sweaty balls. I must have showered three or four times a phucking day, and did four days worth of underwere and sock laundry each day. It is hot man, and the humidity is a killer. For me, this is the worst part of the PI- I hate this kind of phucking weather. Give me the cool wet mountains of Latin America anyday!
Ok, we jump in a cab, and off to Burgos Street, or the enternainment center on Padre Burgos Street, only a two dollar cab ride away.
Think of Burgos as a mini Angeles, but far more expneseive EWR and lady drinks. FAR more expenstive in most places, with a couple of decent places for reanonable prices.
First off, we hit Rougues, my buddy's favorite place. Favorite place for good reason, this is a great bar! Dancers that actually dance and have hot dancers bodies, tons of women on the menu mulling around, quality overall very high, pool table, and bets of all the EWR is only 1600 (33 bucks) , I am told. Now, the other difference here is that the women expect much higher tips than in AC. Also, while in AC the average lady drink price is just under 4 bucks, there it is 7 bucks. Buy a few and the money adds up quickly. Rougues is great, we hang for a while, and there are maybe ten women I could go with, three I would love to go with.
But we leave so he can show me around. We pop into about 15 places, have drinks in about three. Pretty dead (I think it was about 9 or 10 at night, I forget) , and on a Thusday night. He was shocked. Overall talent, very good, but EWR can be up to 4000 Pesos here, or 90 plus bucks! Now, that is not really a ton of money for a TLN with a total fox, but after AC, it FEELs like a shit load. Plus, with tip and a ladies drink, you are talking 120 bucks ish, which makes it a bit more of a cost if you are traveling for any length of time.
During our tour, of of the places we hit was Bottoms. Bottoms certainly was the tops, in terms of high end talent. Just some really foxy women. On the way out, I see this one that is just smoking hot, I mean, phucking A hot. A bit too much of a spinner for my tastes, but oh my god, what a face. I tell her she is best best looking women I have seen since I have been in Manila, and she blushes (it was real) and tells me I am Bula Bula (lying, or just full of shit). I tell her that it was true, and that to provide it, I would come back to have a drink with her within the next day or so to prove I was being honest (why that would logically prove it, I don't know, but she seemed to buy the internal logic of this sylogism).
More bar hoping, I have a dink in one place. Wingman sees a women he went with a year or so ago, wants to hang with her for a bit, but the places is VERY sharky and high pressured, so he suggests I meet him at Roughes (good idea). In the bar, I am stop two very hot dancers, and decide to buy one of them a drink (which one did not matter, they were both hot). We sat in a little both, and she has the best body, but up close, not a great face. Wingman comes, and we hang for a while. Now, I am really tired, but I also want to get laid. It is like 11 or so now, and I need to decide what to do.
Back to bottoms, and buy a drink for ms. Smoking hottie (forget her name). She rocks, kissing me, sweet, dirty dancing for me, takes a half hour to dirnk her ladies drink. The problem? One, she is one the rag, and two, I am tired and don't want to pay 100 plus bucks for a chica on the rag. So, I make her promise me to come over after work (5am) and sleep with me. She says she won't promise, but will try, but that if she does, she will 'suck me until I am near dead. ' Think that did not make me hard? I slip her my hotel card, say goodbye to wing, and after a bit more dirty dancing and her licking my neck and ear for a few minutes, I jump in a cab.
Now, I am thinking there is a 10 percent chance I am seeing once she gets off work. The ride to Emerita is 25 minutes even with no traffic, she will probably be dead tired, and if she is really one day two on the rag (she showed me her pad in her underware, nice touch!) , she must not be feeling great. So, I go back to the room, shower in case, and crash around 12:30.
Sure as shit. 5; 30 comes and there the phone rings- Ms. Perfect is here and the receptionist wants to know if she can come up?
Hmm, let me think about it. Phuck YES.
Cut to the chase, I open the door, and she pushes me to the bed. She immediatly starts giveing me a wicket toungue bath, finishing in a BBBJNQNS.
It is off the charts. We sleep, fool around, she gves me had again. Repeat. Order room service. Repeat. Finally he lets me Phuck her (thank god for throw away t shirts that I bring, one got a bit bloody). She is just so GFE and into it and for a short period of my life it is perfect and I am in love all over again.
5pm comes, and it is time for her to get ready to leave to work. She was fantastic. I have her 3000 for her nearly 12 hours of great loving (66 bucks) , and from her reaction, this was good enough.
Nap time. Will be going out again in a couple of hours, as it is Friday night in the big city.
More later.
What did I do on my second night in Manila? Aw, after a disco nap I caught a cab to the Greenbelt and hung out a bit. I could get used to this, hanging out watching and flirting with the freelancers at Cafe Havana and then flirting with the civilian women in the various shops and resteraunts. With ANY game and a bit of time, it would be so easy to pick up here.
After a great dinner at a fusion spot and a few fruity drinks, it is back to Burgos. I am supposed to leave with a young hottie from Rougues that I was talking to the night before. Problem is, once I am there, she shows up and is dressed like a cross between Ronald McDonald and Gumby- it is a total turn off, and her face is not as cute as I thought it had been.
Time to make a quick exit.
I am tired, I mean, really tired, but hell if I am not getting laid with two days left in the trip. So, back to Emerta (Phuck this traffic is rough) and to Hussy's bar.
Now, Hussy's is a sort of dive bar with women run by a Scotsman. The women range from 2 to 6. Two of the 6s flirt with me, and both are cute enough, and are giving me a good deal of positive vibe (they know how to turn the ATM on).
Have you two every worked together?
NOOOOO.
Do you want to work together?
What do we have do do?
Well, you have to pretend you are the momma cats, and I am your baby kitten. For several hours, you need to clean ever inch of my body with your tounge, and the massage me, clean me again, and if I am very happy, I will give a good tip in the morning.
(how do I come up with this shit- I am one twisted mother Phucker).
Note- when I do say such foolishness, I make sure to carefully look at the responses of my potential playmates, to see if they think I am wacked or if they are down with the program.
They were down with the program.
And down with the program they were. By the time they left at about 8 am, the only potentaily unliked part of my body were my toes (I am not that cruel that I would make anyone suck my nasty ass feet) , and I was three leches out and happier than a pig in shit. They kept asking me if I wanted to Phuck (boom boom) , but I told them that tonight there would only be licking. There was something about the hardness of my resolve and the playfulness of the game that seemed to turn them on, or at least got them into their roles enough that they really, really got into it. The highlight was a passionate double blow job where they let go a bit and started to make out over the head of my C*ck, both rubbing my nipples and balls. Life was very, very good indeed.
When they left, I ordered room service and contemplated the reality that his would be my last day in the PI.
My last day in the PI today. After some food, I work out of a bit. I should have mentioned earlier, I try to work out daily when I am traveling- tons of stretching, core training, body weight exercize. I try to see if I can bump up my fitness instead of lose it- given that I am phucking and walking all the time, some intense cardio / bodyweight / core training done together usually means I lost 5-10 pounds and increase my cardio while eating well and having fun. I am not at my fittest right now, but not too far off. Two trips ago I was starting to see some serious abs, and while the ladies may or may not give a shit, I felt great about myself- this lead to self confidence, being free and easy with my body, and totally unself conscious. It makes a huge diffence for me in how much I enjoy the pleasures of the flesh. This trip I was in good enough shape to feel good, but want to really push the working out for next summer.
Anyhow.
I want to leave and don't want to leave. I am ready to get home, on one hand, but the pleasure and fun have been so instense, I have so much enjoyed the freedom of only being responsible to my momentary whims of the flesh-I feel sad.
I also get this sense of dread when a trip ends, that somehow this will be the last one. This time I know I will have a few trips in the coming year to various places, so its not that bad.
Since it is my last day, I go down the street for two hours of massage- about 15 bucks. Good massuse, she does a good job of focusing on my legs. She starts to dittle with my dittle, but I step here as I am not in the mood for a hand job and she makes it clear that this is all that he is offering.
Shit, I am too tired right now to finish this. More later.
I am tired. Its my last day, and I am feeling decidedly unbummed out for a last day. Usually, the last day of a trip leaves me feeling sad, empty, longing, as if someone I will never be able to travel again, will never be able to break free form the grind of daily life and feast at the alter of 20something pu*sy and total freedom. Yeah, that is what mongering is. 20 something young pu*sy, freedom from the responsiblities of daily life, and the momentary ability to stop the clock and pretend that at some point I am not going to phucking die.
Sigh.
But I am in Manila, and I have to Phuck my last night. Yet, I don't want to go out and troll for pussy- I feel a bit too mellow. So, very late afternoon I read the Philippine Addicts board (just info for the PI) and read some reviews from there about an escort servcie,
I find the perfect little hottie that reviews say is off the hook. http://www.makatiescorts.net/home/manil. /nica. Html.
Nica. Yes, half way across the world for another Nica. Price, wow, way phucking stepp. 4000 Pesos for two hours. I call up, arrange for three hours at 5, 000 pesos ($115) for three hours, my preferred amount of time. And damn, look at that picture- what a total hottie!
Now, this is well more than twice what I have paid the whole trip, and those were all LT. Yet, I won't have to pay ladies drinks, no other costs, and can just get some food, kick back, and Phuck.
Sometimes, it is just money and principle be damned.
But as the time comes closer, I get the urge to roam, so call up and cancel.
Go to a nice place and have Kare Kare (ox tail stew in peanut sauce- and don't know it until you try it, it is one of the great delicacies of the world).
Later, off the the shark tank, or the Bay Cafe (also called Manila Bay Cafe, but technically Bay Cafe- Manila, but whatever).
I don't think I like this place, as I mentioned. The constant annoyance from the hard core girls is a drag for me- I just like to kick back, be left the Phuck alone, and talk to the women of my chosing.
So, after the 20th "no thank you" and "I like to sit alone" (which Pinays usually find about as crazy as saying "no, I would rather be skull phucked by a rabid ape and drink bud light") I move to the corner and stand.
This helps. Soon, I see this very out of place looking women, maybe 20, dressed in jeans and a very conservative blouse. Very cute, innocent girl next door looking, and anxious looking as hell. I smile, she smiles. Soon, she walks by. We chat, and she soon says that it is her second time there. I tell her that I have heard this before. She thanks me for my time, and says it is her second time, and walks away, looking sad and defeated.
It becomes clear to me that she was being honest and that I offended her by basically calling her a lying working girl.
Know that that means boys?
Fresh meat.
Fast forward- I appologize and explain how that is a frequent line. She forgives me, and is a total dolly. Long story short (shit, why the hell am I "making a long story short after all this phucking blabber!) she agrees to come to my room for a few hours, how much I give her "up to me." Now, I don't care where I am, I don't like money issues totally unaddressed, so I tell her I will give her between 1, 000 and 2, 000 pesos, depending on how amazing the our time is.
Three hours later, she gets 2, 000 pesos (46 bucks) and I have gotten the shit phucked out of me. Actually, we phucked the shit out of each other.
Silly things she said."Now I know why my friends says forigners have sex like beasts!" (Loved that one)."what is it like to lick a women between her legs like that? For me it is very nice!" and after about an hour of cardio phucking "I think that my mommy would not approve if she saw me this way."
And I am leaving in the morning.
Sigh.
She leaves, as arranged. I always like my last night and morning alone, so I can go through my bags and make sure that any "memorabelia" (condoms, panties, ect) does not compromise the innocent (me) and make it into my bags, and make it clear that my "business" was not bagging 20 or so amazing young Pinay women.
Well, these were a sample of my sexual and non sexual experiences in the PI. As generous as you guys have been about the quality of the trip report, I really don't feel that I have painted a picture of what the experience was like. I loved this trip, as I said, it might have been my best first trip ever. It ranks up there with my favorite Lima trip, where Diablito, Smoothwind, K by M (what the Phuck is her new sceen name anyhow?) and SJO shared a magical time together, or my last trip to MDE, or a trip to SJO when consellation of my favorite wingmen lived and loved hard, fast, and fully. Than there was my Thailand trip.
But for a trip to be so amazing without having shared it with friends? That is a testimony to a place, to a people, to the women.
There is just something about these women, some silliness, some spirt of joy. For those of you who are tempted to say that it the desperation of very poor women and their ablity to be good actors? I say one thing.
Phuck you. You are clueless about human nature.
To those of you who will soon book a flight to seek and destroy what you will call LBFM (Little Brown Phuck Machines). Phuck you twice- I hate that term. No matter how long I play in this hobby, I will never get used to guys who have the need to be disrespectful at best, but frankly, mysogonist at worst. Fine, call me PC. Phuck you three times.
Of course they are playing a role I am paying them for. Of course they are having sex with me for money- but money gets you so far- to really get everything you can out of this hobby, you have to feel and be felt, you have to give a little bit of your heart without losing yourself. That is a powerful thing to be able to do, to let go without being swollowed up; it is why some fall in love and yet others have to degrade women or keep themslves totally distant- if they don't, they will wind up a puddle of man goo (not that man goo) somewhere in a very deperate and sad corner.
So, I felt touched. In spite of never really wifing up, as I am known to do for portions of trips, I felt touched. The key always is to let myself feel touched there and then be able to come home and fully live my life here, to keep touching those I truly love and not get lost in the allure of the hobby.
So far, so good. I have been a member of this board for nearly 8 years. While I have done pay for pu*sy prior to that, I never really mongered before.
I am better for it? Of course not. Am I worse for it? I hope not. Fortunatly, I have managed to compartmentalize my worlds. I do best when my head is here when I am here and there when I travel. I need to stop writing this trip report, back off of reading boards, and be in my life, my real life.
Very tangental ending to a very tangental trip report. I am sure there is more I could say, and maybe I will in response to other's comments, but lets call this the last official post, for those of you praying to god that I will stop.
So, closing thoughts?
Sure.
1) The PI has consistently the best p4p sex I have had- great GFE / PSE combo.
2) The women are far sexier and attractive than I would have thought.
3) Angeles is Sodom and Gommmorah- I suggest you go! Be prepared to love it, be prepared to find it horrid.
4) I like Pinays better than Thai girls, and I am sure it is not just about language. A few of my companions were from the provences and spoke less English than many Thai girls.
5) If you learn a bit about the food you will find it fantastic if you have adventuous eating tastes.
6) Subic is way underrated for p4p- one could easily spend most of their time there and pass on a lot of time in AC.
7) Manila is great for those who love big cities- far more expensive though.
Before I forget- I did not really go anywhere! There are so many places to see. I basically "did not get out of the gulch." Shame on me.
9) I will be back- wingman and I are thinking summer 2013.
10) As much as I loved it, I will still not join the Costa Rica sucks gang. It does not suck, but certainly there are other places that are better for sex and adventure, IMHO.
11) The better shape I am in, the better I take care of myself physically and emotionally, the better my trips are and the sex is. For those of you who don't get that and think that it is all about the money, I honestly feel sad for you, and I think you know you are lying to yourselves.
Thanks for those of you who provided me with great info prior to my trip, a sincere thank you. I hope this gives those who have never been a sense of what it is like. I feel beyond privledged to have been able to travel this way- only a very small percentage of the men on this planet have the means to do what we do- keep that in mind.
Keep on rocking in the free world.
Hank Daman, AKA Psychman.
GoodEnough
05-02-12, 00:15
Psychman:
Thank you for taking the time to reflect on your experiences and for sharing your insights. Taken together, these reports provide some colorful and interesting perceptions of Filipino culture, and some rich descriptions of the places you visited. Your Manila reports in particular provide excellent descriptions of the contrasts of the Metro Manila area; from the sophistication and Polish of Greenbelt to the appalling slums and poverty of Ermita. Though I can't agree with your assessment of the food-which remains bland, uninteresting and unappetizing for me-I do agree with everything else you've said and it's remarkable that you were able to deduce so much during two short weeks. I know many guys who haven't achieved that level of insight after having lived here for several years.
When and if you return, I suggest that you continue your exploration in areas other than Luzon. I think you would derive equal levels of enjoyment in various cities in Mindanao and perhaps in Cebu, all of which differ markedly from the places you have visited to date.
Thanks again.
GE
I am tired. Its my last day, and I am feeling decidedly unbummed out for a last day. Usually, the last day of a trip leaves me feeling sad, empty, longing, as if someone I will never be able to travel again, will never be able to break free form the grind of daily life and feast at the alter of 20something pu*sy and total freedom. Yeah, that is what mongering is. 20 something young pu*sy, freedom from the responsiblities of daily life, and the momentary ability to stop the clock and pretend that at some point I am not going to phucking die.
Sigh.Don't we all feel this way, trip end. Appreciations of your perspective and sexperience Hank, you will hate the fact I too will soon be doing what a monger does next month. Good read.
Undercoverh
05-02-12, 03:48
Psychman:
I have been on this website for many years (long before it changed hands to the current owner). By far, your report is one of the best reports on the topic of PI. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Undercoverh
05-02-12, 04:37
What's the going rate now days in Angeles for ST and LT? It's been like 3 years since the last time I've been in Angeles and I think I should make a return trip soon.I was in AC 3 weeks ago and here are the rates:
Blow Row: ST, P700 for 2 hours (one pop). LT, P1, 200 to P1, 400 for 12 hours (multi-pops).
Fields Bars and near by side streets: P1, 500 small bars. P1, 800 to P3, 000 at the large bars (example, Atlantis). This is for ST, unless the girl really likes u and want to stay longer.
Bars at the far end of Fields Ave. (e.g., on Don Juico Ave.) Price range from P1, 000 to P1, 500. This is for ST, unless the girl really likes u and want to stay longer.
For LT rates at these bars, other guys may be able to provide input. I have never wanted any of these bar girls for LT. Thus, I have never asked about LT rates. Anyway, I have no desire to pay the big additional cost. After my pop, I am happy for them to go and I can do other things (e.g., rest, eat, bar hop, etc.).
For the bars that charge P3, 000 for the "green tag" girls, I did not see that these girls were worth the extra cost. Plus, they had the look of being type of girls who thought they were to cute to give a good BBBJ.
For me, the best value is Blow Row and the other street that is simlar to BR that is on the side of old Orchrd hotel. I like taking two girls at a time for 1, 400 (that is dirt cheap) for two hours, what a deal. The joy of double BBBJ is wonderful, and then you enjoyable sex with them. One day, I plan to take 3 for 12 hours and get a room with a hot tub big enough for 4, and feel like a porn king. Of course, these girls are not 10s. Most are 5 or 6s. But, sometimes you can find nice, sweet, young ones, just off the boat and new to the game. Their little pussy is still tight. If you get them going, they get really wet. Also, these girls tend to be very playful and easy to talk to.
In the bars, within 5 minutes, the girls ask u to buy them a drink. On Blow Row, within 5 minutes, the girls will be aksing u if u want a BJ. That is what I love about Blow Row, the girls get right to the point of wanting you to F them and their strong desire to suck your "D." For me, it is fun having several girls wanting the be the lucky one to suck my "D." Only in AC can I have this feeling. On one trip to the street next to old Orchid hotel, the girl kept telling me she wanted to suck my "D'" and she would do a very good job. I turned her down, since I had had sex early that day.Note, BJs and sex can be there at the room upstairs or in your hotel. I like taking the girls back to my room.
I normally have a policy of only taking the young ones. But the last time I was there, a new girl was there. She was 29 and a mother of 2. She stated it was her third day on the job. We talked for a while as she was holding my hand, I was getting hard. I was in the mood to "F" a mom, plus she was cute, slender, and sweet. I did not feel like walking back to my hotel with her, so we went up stairs to one of the rooms (no extra charge). She gave me a nice BBBJ and then I told her doggie style. While we were doing the doggie, I had her lay down as I was still on the back of her and inside of her. Wow, as she laid down flat, my "D" slide in deeper, and it was the best sex I had in a long time. As she moved her hips, I went deeper and she felt it too. I must say, her "P" was just right for me. My point of this story is, sometimes u may not find the best looking girls there, but sometiems u will find the best sex.
Think about it, you could have a 12 hour sex party with 3 young (over 18) girls for $100, that is dirt cheap by American standards. The key is to find 2 or 3 girls tha feel comfortable together. I will pick one girl, then tell her to pick any of her close friends. That way, they all know and like each other, which should make the sex party enjoyable. Also, I do not want to change condom everytime I have sex with the girls. Therefore, I will ask if that is ok with them before I pay the fee.
I have learned that is it better to ask this before u take 2 or more girls to your room. Once, I did not ask, and one of the girls wanted me to put on a new condom after I F the other girl. At a sex party, u are switching between the girls and F-ing them as u desire. To put on new condoms every 10 minutes or so kills the mood for me.
This is my new plan for AC, just get a nice hotel room with a big hot tub, and make my selections from blow row and fun in my room with 2 or 3 girls (with HD video and pics). I have been going to AC for the past 14 years, so I have done the bar club thing a ton of times. I am looking for something different. Taking 2 or 3 girls for 12 hours will allow me to take my time with them, have fun, play in the tub, eat (order room service) , watch TV, sex with them, lay in bed with 2 or 3 girls, rub their pussies, and other stuff. Dreams can come true in AC.
Royalpardesi2001
05-02-12, 05:29
Hi frienda I am coming to Angeles City in June and will be there Four nights. I have made some friends in datein asia website. They say they are ready to come with me to my hotel. I want advice if it is risky to get them there and just stick to bar ladies or is it ok.
Hi frienda I am coming to Angeles City in June and will be there Four nights. I have made some friends in datein asia website. They say they are ready to come with me to my hotel. I want advice if it is risky to get them there and just stick to bar ladies or is it ok.Chances are DIA girls are working at a bar too, so no worries.
For me, the best value is Blow Row and the other street that is simlar to BR that is on the side of old Orchrd hotel.Undercoverh. Blow Row, is this a nickname for a bar, series of bars or street name? Are you refering to SW's when you mention BR? A little clarification please.
It refers to Santos Ave. (or parts of Santos, since there has been so much change / development) which is perpendicular to Fields Ave. One of the largest and swankiest hotels, Wild Orchid is there. You walk out of WO and look around at the little bars. This is what remains of Blow row. They have some rooms on the premises where your tour guide will show you why it's called blow row. You can take her out too, she might like to watch tv in your hotel room. The guides vary in shape and size, but there are the diamonds in the rough. (Oh, Carla, I miss you.)
In most bars, you probably sit down, get a drink, find a girl that attracts you, buy her a drink and then who knows. On Santos, they put their hand on your family jewels, shine them up a bit, and then ask if you want shrt time.
Last time I was in AC I had a shapely BlwRow gal who was quite nice in personality and looks. Except for a really unfortunate mouth. Apparently, she was doing something about it since she had braces on her teeth. For some reason, I was oddly attracted to exploring her mouth / braces with my tongue. Yes, I know perfectly well what she may have had in her mouth earlier, but this is AC after all. X.
Undercoverh. Blow Row, is this a nickname for a bar, series of bars or street name? Are you refering to SW's when you mention BR? A little clarification please.
Chances are DIA girls are working at a bar too, so no worries.Semi agree, but they may also be freelancers, and in AC, the question becomes "why are they freelancing?" Of course there are good reasons (I. E. Want to only work part time) , but there are some more troublesome reasons as well (see my post below). Besides, while DIA might be important in places like Cebu or Daveo, where the scene is less massive (or in other areas) , in AC there are thousand of girls. Personally, I would prefer getting to know a girl before I select her, when possible, to assess the vibe and chemestry, but that is just me. In AC there are just too many easy options 24/7.
IMHO
ThatGuy865
05-03-12, 00:53
Hi frienda I am coming to Angeles City in June and will be there Four nights. I have made some friends in datein asia website. They say they are ready to come with me to my hotel. I want advice if it is risky to get them there and just stick to bar ladies or is it ok.For a first timer. with ONLY 4 nights. DIA girls can be a Gamble. And you only have a short time. I would not waste a Half day or possibly a night waiting around for a DIA girl. Who might not show. Or got there and had second thoughts.
AC has approx over 5000 girls in the bars. Why waste time w / a DIA girl your 1st time
Once you've been there and done the Bar thing. Have a little more time and no your way around w / a pinay. Then do the DIA girls.
Undercoverh
05-03-12, 02:33
Undercoverh. Blow Row, is this a nickname for a bar, series of bars or street name? Are you refering to SW's when you mention BR? A little clarification please.
X Men provides a good reponse to your question. The only thing I would add is enjoy Blow Row while it last. When I came to AC 14 years ago, there were more places on BR and other locations in AC. Plus, the price back then was P500 for 3 hours ST. LT was like P800 or P900. Now the price is P700 for 2 hours, but still an great deal by American standards. Plus, the the USA Dollar was around P55 to $1. That was cheap sex! Now, on BR, many of the outlets are gone (new building in its place) and the other small BJ outlets in AC are gone (replaced by something else).
Here is a real treat for you! Go to You Tube and enter "Blowjob Naaaaaaa !Philippines, Angeles City Raymond St." Just copy and paste this. You will see this girl asking a guy, repeatedly to give him a blow jow now. Warning: Do not think all girls look the way these girls do. The looks of girls varies from BR bar to BR bar. And, the turnover is high. This video was take on BR sister street Raymond St which is next to the old Orchid Hotel (not the new one on Santos St.).
Also, the turnover at BR is high when compared to the bars. The girls seem to to stop at BR to make some quick cash and move on. Or, I guess some get tired of sucking lots of dicks every day. However, this is good news for us, because you can always find a new selection monthly, most of the time. One girl I have seen there for a while on my many trips. She is mixed with white and she seems nice. Never selected her because she is a little fat, but nice big tits. I feel a little bit sorry for her because her dad is an American or Aussie and she is left to suck dicks for a living. Oh well, such as life. If you see her or stop by to enjoy the other girls, please be nice to them, most of them are really nice girls living a "F" up life. If you are nice to them, most of them will be really nice to you. I can say that I have never had a girl with a bad attitude from BR. And for you guys who like bare back, lots of these girls will go bare back. It is not my choice, but sex with no condom takes place often on BR.
Appreciations Gentlemen. I am always very sweet to the girls according to the feedback I get being a super cool Gentleman, even when under provocation here in London. Worry not. I take good care of the girls, BR appears suited to me as I don't enjoy the BF for obvious reasons, add to this, the butterfly is free to take off in whatever direction desired; with a chick overnighting this clips my beautiful wings to a degree. Prefer to cup my balls alone, LOL.
I took a hot chick from Manila to AC some two Christmas back, we had a blast barhopping, only soured when my toe was almost removed from a thrown thunderflash. This time it I'm solo butterfly, baby. Hope the girls oblige me tons of photos with the incentive of a little renumeration of course.
I took a hot chick from Manila to AC some two Christmas back, we had a blast barhopping,Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.
Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.Neither do I but it seems very common these days. Especially the Koreans, often they barfine 2 or more girls and barhop with them as if there's no tomorrow.
Cheers!
Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.I was more than comfortable with my Manila hot. Why not! Besides, as I wrote below; I'm not into the run-away barfine. Bring on the FL's, cheaper and higher turnover.
Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.Can't speak for everyone, but if I find a gal I enjoy and I have paid for her time anyway, I find it enjoyable to get out of the room during the "recovery period" and maybe take in a few different venues. The girls seem to enjoy seeing something besides her own bar or going to a "civilian" place also. That usually translates well when we do return to the room. I have found they are often more "energetic" after being "squired" around a little.
I have been bitten a couple of times by girls inviting friends to drink with us or getting drunk and then not being able to perform. But those occasions are rare.
Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.If you already have a girl for the night and still want to hang around and the girl is ok with it, having a girl aside lifts. In general. The hassle from other girls in the bars to approach you as a target.
Some, of course will not be intimated, maybe they think you two are looking for a 3rd party to join in the bed. But it does work
Member #4698
05-03-12, 15:17
Why do guys barhop with their girls? I've never understood this.Once I have picked my girl for the evening, I like to get it on right away. No delayed satisfaction for me. But some guys like to drink and barhop before sex; plain and simple. I don't get this one either, but some guys like to do it that way. Up to you.
But there is one situation when I like to barhop with my girl. This occurs when I have bar fined early in the afternoon from Perimeter and already shagged her twice in my hotel room. It is now 7pm. What to do if you don't want to let her go? I am getting hungry, thirsty and in need of some entertainment, so I take her out for dinner and barhop for a few hours before we get down to shag #3 & 4 and then some sleep. I have always had a good time barhopping on Fields with a Perimeter girl, sometimes a great time. The girls I have gone barhopping with have really liked it. Most have never been to places like Atlantis or Golden Nile so barhopping with them is part of the GFE that AC girls can give you.
Last time I was in AC I barhopped with a gal from Lost in Asia. After our afternoon double header, we had dinner at Jollibee's, her choice and my first and last time. Foolishly, I ordered a cheeseburger. It tasted like nothing that has a mother and father – wet stale cardboard. She ordered crispy chicken and rice which was a much better selection. Seeing I was not that happy with my burger, she hand fed me pieces of her chicken. One thing I can say about Jollibee's is that it is a well run operation. The place was packed, but the busboys kept cleaning tables as soon as they were vacated.
After dinner, I took her to a couple of small bars before we headed over to Atlantis. She loved the show. She asked me to give her 30p and left for around 10 minutes returning with two plastic bags filled with BBQ chicken skewers. She gave one to me, our waitress, who really appreciated it and the couple sitting next to us, a European guy and his girl. It broke the ice and we all had a great time. Later she asked if I would take her to karaoke joint where her cousin worked. That was interesting too and she sang some torch songs for me. Later, she wanted to stop at Ponytails because on the way to dinner she remembered I had mentioned it was a good bar. These girls have great memories. In Ponytails, I saw a beautiful Chinese looking girl. My girl got a little jealous of my glances at the Chinese girl – what was I supposed to do (LOL) and asked if I wanted to EWR the girl. I said no, unless she was interested in a 3 some. She looked at me funny and shook her head, but then invited the good looking girl to come by. It turned out the Pony Tail girl was a 21 year old cherry girl. I could not believe it. I mean how could that hot looking girl not have been sexed up? She was a stunner. Any way, we played some pool and drank more Tequila shots. We did not get back to my room until around 2pm. We had some of the Absolute Vodka I had bought at the duty free shop in the Macau airport and OJ and had a long, really good, late night, semi drunk shag. Then we slept. In the morning more sex. The girl left around noon. It was a memorable and fun night barhopping with this Perimeter Road bar girl. Her name was Juliet and I bar fined her one more time on my last day in AC. Farwell sex: it is good, almost as good as reunion sex.
GosiwonBusan
05-03-12, 17:15
I agree with most of the below. I try to bar fine early, then go to the hotel to check that I have found a good one. The problem is then at 10 pm what to do. There is very little in the way of entertainment in AC. Often the girls, who to be fair work long hours often like to bar hop and meet their friend cousin whatever. I have never been asked to buy more than 1 ld. Also having another person other than your fuck buddy that you have known for less than 2 hours, to talk to is kinda interesting. It certainly doesn't harm the conversation. Let's be fair it's not a date but you need something to do other than sex and AC has very little.
I bar fined a girl from a smaller bar who genuinely enjoyed watching the shows at some of the other bars.
Undercoverh
05-05-12, 16:14
I was looking at the Dollhouse Group bars on you tube, and some of the "green tag" girls look really cute and a great sexy slender shape (my first choice in selecting a girl). However, I did not see these girls on my last trip. The Dollhouse Group bars are: Dollhouse, Club Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Tropix, Baby Dollos, PonyTails, and Cub Asia. Based on my opinion, the big 3 has the best looking girls in Angeles City and the largest selection. The big 3 would be Dollhouse, Atlants, and Crystal. The pricing is 1, 800 white tag, and 3, 000 green tag for ST. Sometimes, ST is after u get your first pop or up to 2 hours, which ever comes first.
My question is, has anyone taken girls from any of the big 3 bars for LT? If yes, what is the price for green tag, white tag, and how many hours do you get? I will be staying at Pacific Breeze next time in a room with a jacuzzi. I would like to try getting a sexy, young, good looking girl from one of the big 3 clubs for LT to enjoy the jacuzzi experience. I do not know about other guys, but when I have take girls for LT (but not often) , I will normally order room service so we can eat. Having a girl for LT (12 hours from the Blow Row bars) , they tend to want to eat and I cannot blame them. 12 hours is a long time to go without eating and exspecting to just stay in bed and "F" is unrealistic. Just my POV. I rather do roomservice, then put my cloths back on and go to JollyBees (which would cost less).
The reason I mention food, is because I always add the estimated food cost to the LT price, plus any tip if the girl provided excellent service. Therefore, my cost for Blow Row girl was 1,400 girl for 12 hours, tip for very good service P200, room service food for both of us P500 for a total of 2,100 or $50 U.S. dollars. Still very very cheap by Ameican standards. After seening the girls on you tube at the big 3 clubs, I am thinking now maybe I will move up the scale on looks and quality of the girl. However, I am trying to determine how much it would cost me versus what I am getting (you know, the cost benefit analysis).
When I was younger, I would bang 2 or 3 girls a day, all on ST. Back then, it was about quantity. Now, it is about quality. As I get older, I am starting to find out that 2 hours is not enough time for me. I like to take my time, hug, kiss, have sex a few times. With 2 hours, I feel rushed. And, most bar girls keep an eye on the time when it is just 2 hours. With LT, this is not the case. Any feedback on the green tag LT or white tag LT pricing would be helpful, thanks.
I was looking at the Dollhouse Group bars on you tube, and some of the "green tag" girls look really cute and a great sexy slender shape (my first choice in selecting a girl). However, I did not see these girls on my last trip. The Dollhouse Group bars are: Dollhouse, Club Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Tropix, Baby Dollos, PonyTails, and Cub Asia. Based on my opinion, the big 3 has the best looking girls in Angeles City and the largest selection. The big 3 would be Dollhouse, Atlants, and Crystal. The pricing is 1, 800 white tag, and 3, 000 green tag for ST. Sometimes, ST is after you get your first pop or up to 2 hours, which ever comes first.
My question is, has anyone taken girls from any of the big 3 bars for LT? If yes, what is the price for green tag, white tag, and how many hours do you get? I will be staying at Pacific Breeze next time in a room with a jacuzzi. I would like to try getting a sexy, young, good looking girl from one of the big 3 clubs for LT to enjoy the jacuzzi experience. I do not know about other guys, but when I have take girls for LT (but not often) , I will normally order room service so we can eat. Having a girl for LT (12 hours from the Blow Row bars) , they tend to want to eat and I cannot blame them. 12 hours is a long time to go without eating and exspecting to just stay in bed and "F" is unrealistic. Just my POV. I rather do roomservice, then put my cloths back on and go to JollyBees (which would cost less).
The reason I mention food, is because I always add the estimated food cost to the LT price, plus any tip if the girl provided excellent service. Therefore, my cost for Blow Row girl was 1, 400 girl for 12 hours, tip for very good service P200, room service food for both of us P500 for a total of 2, 100 or $50 USA dollars. Still very very cheap by Ameican standards. After seening the girls on you tube at the big 3 clubs, I am thinking now maybe I will move up the scale on looks and quality of the girl. However, I am trying to determine how much it would cost me versus what I am getting (you know, the cost benefit analysis).
When I was younger, I would bang 2 or 3 girls a day, all on ST. Back then, it was about quantity. Now, it is about quality. As I get older, I am starting to find out that 2 hours is not enough time for me. I like to take my time, hug, kiss, have sex a few times. With 2 hours, I feel rushed. And, most bar girls keep an eye on the time when it is just 2 hours. With LT, this is not the case. Any feedback on the green tag LT or white tag LT pricing would be helpful, thanks.You are mixing things up. Prices quoted in your post 1800 and 3000 and LT. There is NO ST in those bars. ST is available in blowjob row and few other perimeter Road bars but NOT in the Fields Ave bars. LT means the girl stays with you until the morning. It also means that you get AT LEAST 2 pops but its really up to her and most will allow more than that. If you are nice to her then you may fuck her as much as you like. Many times I have taken a girl at 8pm and kept her up to 5pm the next day. If you are nice most of them will want to stay with you especially if you are staying in a nice place, just hint that they can use the pool and you are already a great guy.
As for food if money is an issue why not send the girl to get some food. Don't worry she will be back, after all she wants a tip. Otherwise you can buy something on the way back to the hotel. Can't remember the price now but a whole chicken from a street vendor is ridiculously cheep. Another option is buy ice cream or bring chocolate they love it and its much more fun licking ice cream of her body or even better her licking it of yours.
By the way don't neglect the smaller bars. Gems can be had there for 1500-2000 peso LT and there are plenty good looking girls that can give any 3000 peso girl run for their money. I don't bother with the 3K girls simply because their attitude at times can be bad and why pay that much when you can get away with half of that.
If you plan to bar fine few times from the same bar don't be a cheap charlie, words spreads around quick especially if you are more demanding. Keep in mind what and how you tip home for service and try not to over tip but definitely show your gratitude.
Have fun
Undercoverh
05-06-12, 00:25
You are mixing things up. Prices quoted in your post 1800 and 3000 and LT. There is NO ST in those bars. ST is available in blowjob row and few other perimeter Road bars but NOT in the Fields Ave bars. LT means the girl stays with you until the morning. It also means that you get AT LEAST 2 pops but its really up to her and most will allow more than that. If you are nice to her then you may fuck her as much as you like. Many times I have taken a girl at 8pm and kept her up to 5pm the next day. If you are nice most of them will want to stay with you especially if you are staying in a nice place, just hint that they can use the pool and you are already a great guy.
As for food if money is an issue why not send the girl to get some food. Don't worry she will be back, after all she wants a tip. Otherwise you can buy something on the way back to the hotel. Can't remember the price now but a whole chicken from a street vendor is ridiculously cheep. Another option is buy ice cream or bring chocolate they love it and its much more fun licking ice cream of her body or even better her licking it of yours.
By the way don't neglect the smaller bars. Gems can be had there for 1500-2000 peso LT and there are plenty good looking girls that can give any 3000 peso girl run for their money. I don't bother with the 3K girls simply because their attitude at times can be bad and why pay that much when you can get away with half of that.
If you plan to bar fine few times from the same bar don't be a cheap charlie, words spreads around quick especially if you are more demanding. Keep in mind what and how you tip home for service and try not to over tip but definitely show your gratitude.
Have funThanks for your feedback. It has been many years since I have gone to the Fields bars. For the past several years, I have spent most of my time on Blow Row and at perimeter bars. The attitudes of these girls seem to be better and the price is cheaper then the Fields Ave bars. But, based on your comments, I want to give Fields Ave bars a try again.
Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?
I was in Bangkok in March and at the massage outlet, it was around $70 for 2 hours (2,000 baht). For the same amount, I could have a good looking girl in AC for all night....sign me up!! When I first went to AC 14 years ago, I was on a budget and I guess I got in the habit of going to BR and perimeter bars till this day. However, now, it is not problem or concern for me to pay P3,000 for a girl if she is going to stay all night. In addition to paying for a nice hotel room.
Some guys on this post have stated that girls from some of the Field Ave bars wanted to leave early and did NOT stay the night. Is that common? Based on your comments, I find this topic to be more interesting than I orginally thought. I wonder if other guys have bar fined girls at the Fields Ave bars and had girls leave only after a few hours, not knowing the girls are required to stay until the next morning and provide sex several times. Thanks for your feedback, I am sure this information will be helpful to many other guys also.
ThatGuy865
05-06-12, 01:57
Thanks for your feedback. It has been many years since I have gone to the Fields bars. For the past several years, I have spent most of my time on Blow Row and at perimeter bars. The attitudes of these girls seem to be better and the price is cheaper then the Fields Ave bars. But, based on your comments, I want to give Fields Ave bars a try again.
Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?
Some guys on this post have stated that girls from some of the Field Ave bars wanted to leave early and did NOT stay the night. Is that common? Based on your comments, I find this topic to be more interesting than I orginally thought. I wonder if other guys have bar fined girls at the Fields Ave bars and had girls leave only after a few hours, not knowing the girls are required to stay until the next morning and provide sex several times. Thanks for your feedback, I am sure this information will be helpful to many other guys also.There is NO REQUIRED The girls must stay. And there is no 2 POP (minimum) Requirement either.
Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.
Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.
Some will. and some won't refund your BF. but NOTHING is GUARANTEED.
And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.
Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.
I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.
Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.
But as far as it being a requirement. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.
Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?The "program" is that you barfine a girl for the evening. She is "yours" until some undetermined time the next day. What happens on occasion, is the girls give you one pop and then try to find some reason to "leave early", or act in such a way to make sure that you will send them away. Then when they go back to the manager they can always say that you told them to leave.
I haven't had either of these scenarios happen very often, but on occasion I have told the girl to leave, only because it was my choice.
When a girl did leave early or whined enough that I told her to leave, I made a point of politely telling her manager the next day, if possible with her in sight. To be honest I have also told he manager when I have met a girl I really liked that he had a good girl and she should be treated well.
I will echo the sentiments about some of the girls on Blow Row, not always the most physically attractive of the lot, but many times the total experience was above average!
Undercoverh
05-06-12, 07:52
There is NO REQUIRED The girls must stay. And there is no 2 POP (minimum) Requirement either.
Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.
Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.
Some will. and some won't refund your BF. but NOTHING is GUARANTEED.
And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.
Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.
I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.
Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.
But as far as it being a requirement. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.Thanks for the clarification.
Undercoverh
05-06-12, 07:55
The "program" is that you barfine a girl for the evening. She is "yours" until some undetermined time the next day. What happens on occasion, is the girls give you one pop and then try to find some reason to "leave early", or act in such a way to make sure that you will send them away. Then when they go back to the manager they can always say that you told them to leave.
I haven't had either of these scenarios happen very often, but on occasion I have told the girl to leave, only because it was my choice.
When a girl did leave early or whined enough that I told her to leave, I made a point of politely telling her manager the next day, if possible with her in sight. To be honest I have also told he manager when I have met a girl I really liked that he had a good girl and she should be treated well.
I will echo the sentiments about some of the girls on Blow Row, not always the most physically attractive of the lot, but many times the total experience was above average!Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.
Key Master
05-06-12, 08:21
I was looking at the Dollhouse Group bars on you tube, and some of the "green tag" girls look really cute and a great sexy slender shape (my first choice in selecting a girl). However, I did not see these girls on my last trip. The Dollhouse Group bars are: Dollhouse, Club Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Tropix, Baby Dollos, PonyTails, and Cub Asia. Based on my opinion, the big 3 has the best looking girls in Angeles City and the largest selection. The big 3 would be Dollhouse, Atlants, and Crystal. The pricing is 1, 800 white tag, and 3, 000 green tag for ST. Sometimes, ST is after u get your first pop or up to 2 hours, which ever comes first.I wouldn't use those videos as an assurance that the women will look as good as they did in the video. The lighting is very flattering on stage and such. It's a lot different up close and / or in natural lighting most of the time. That's not to say that the women won't look as good, but I think on average most of the women don't look nearly as good when you take them out of the club. I have not taken from any Dollhouse group bar in awhile. I had a friend who took a spotlight type girl in other words a 3k pesos barfine recently and she stayed the whole night with him each time. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high about the quality in this group of bars. I think it's more hype and props than anything.
Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.I will ask you one favor. PLEASE STOP THINKING IN ANY CURRENCY BESIDES THE LOCAL ONE!
Don't mean to shout, but it really does help to forget that from which you came, and focus on where you are. While you are there!
Those comparison issues are at least in my opinion best reserved for when one is making plans to visit a location.
And yes I understand that you aren't "in country" at this time. All in good fun!
Sky.
Ps, I agree with you about the PRC girls in the Macau saunas. In fact the last time I was there during CNY, one place told us the government was making it VERY hard for the Chinese girls to work in the saunas. Maybe they thought it better they work the "racetrack".
I was in Bangkok in March and at the massage outlet, it was around $70 for 2 hours (2,000 baht). For the same amount, I could have a good looking girl in AC for all night.sign me up!!Well, you have to account a MP has recover for running costs that a girl doesn't. A bar girl helps in feeding cash to the establishment with bar fine, drinks she generates by being there and so representing an attraction.
ThatGuy865
05-06-12, 22:45
Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.I find my biggest problem in AC is the reverse. Many times becos I don't sleep in late, and like to eat breakfast.
I have to tell the girls to leave. A lot of times they either want to stay and sleep or just lay around all day watchin TV.
If you are nice to the girls. They will try to latch on and stay as long as you will let them.
It all depends on your approach, and how you treat them.
In my experience (in the PI). The better you treat them. The better "GFE" you receive. If that is what you seek.
There is NO REQUIRED The girls must stay. And there is no 2 POP (minimum) Requirement either.
Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.
Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.
Some will. and some won't refund your BF. but NOTHING is GUARANTEED.
And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.
Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.
I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.
Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.
But as far as it being a requirement. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.Sorry, this is definitely a more accurate description. Rather then REQUIRED I should have said USUAL. Keep in mind prostitution is illegal in phils so even girls from BJ Row can NOT be forced by the bar to perform. Bottom line is NOTHING is 100% sure and there is NO GUARANTEES not just here but almost anywhere when it comes to this kind of sport.
My experience and I believe the experience of most other guys here is as described in my previous post. Almost all girls will be up for one pop on the night and another in the morning at the very least. Yes after the first she can leave and there is nothing much you can do about it, the bar is unlikely to refund your money even if you go back and ask for it as she has in their eyes done the job. As said above, the deed is done. IMO best thing is to let her go and get another girl. At the end of the day we are talking few bucks here no big deal providing you have learned from your mistake.
Bottom line is if you come across as a nice guy almost all girls will return the favor. Like you they want to have good time even though for them its a job. Lot of them work 6 nights a week so treat them right in public, make it fun give them the impression that they are on a date. Eat with them before taking them to the room. Go with them for a drink to another bar. Yes its little more expensive but if you want to minimize risk of a runner and build report with a girl then its worth it IMO. I do it most of the times anyway because I enjoy it myself, I simply enjoy building a bit more tension and momentum before the deed. Don't get me wrong you can skip all this and do what you seem to usually do as well and turn on the charm in your room too, that works too. The idea is for you to come across as nice whichever way you are comfortable. They do understand that it is easier being with someone that is nice and caring. Don't abuse them and don't try to hurt them or force yourself too hard. Talk to them, be funny, be friendly and once it comes to doing it they will return the favor. When doing the interview make it fun, joke about the naughty things you want done and suss her out if she needs to go home early for whatever reason. Some have kids to go back to. Some are local girls with families thinking they are working normal jobs.
Have fun.
Undercoverh
05-08-12, 04:35
I find my biggest problem in AC is the reverse. Many times becos I don't sleep in late, and like to eat breakfast.
I have to tell the girls to leave. A lot of times they either want to stay and sleep or just lay around all day watchin TV.
If you are nice to the girls. They will try to latch on and stay as long as you will let them.
It all depends on your approach, and how you treat them.
In my experience (in the PI). The better you treat them. The better "GFE" you receive. If that is what you seek.You raise an interesting point I had not thought about. I am like you when it comes to not wanting to sleep in and wanting to eat breakfast. I really have no desire to buy the girl breakfast and spending the morning or day with her, I would prefer that she be on her way in the morning (so I can do other stuff and get ready for the new girl I will find that night). I will have to see how all that goes, but I will for sure be nice to the girls.
Of all the hookers I have been with in so many different countries, the filipinas in general are the most sweet and playful. They can still smile after having to suck and "F" so many different guys for a living while still living a poor shit life. Plus, some of these hookers are looking for love, their dream is to have some guy take them away from that and love them (most of the time their dreams never come true). I am still surprised how many of these filipinas will have sex with guys ("F" and suck) with no condom, just to make the guy happy. They overlook the risk they are taking just to make a man happy. Most of them are sweethearts in my book and I will always be nice to them. Thanks for your feedback.
Undercoverh
05-08-12, 04:55
Sorry, this is definitely a more accurate description. Rather then REQUIRED I should have said USUAL. Keep in mind prostitution is illegal in phils so even girls from BJ Row can NOT be forced by the bar to perform. Bottom line is NOTHING is 100% sure and there is NO GUARANTEES not just here but almost anywhere when it comes to this kind of sport.
My experience and I believe the experience of most other guys here is as described in my previous post. Almost all girls will be up for one pop on the night and another in the morning at the very least. Yes after the first she can leave and there is nothing much you can do about it, the bar is unlikely to refund your money even if you go back and ask for it as she has in their eyes done the job. As said above, the deed is done. IMO best thing is to let her go and get another girl. At the end of the day we are talking few bucks here no big deal providing you have learned from your mistake.
Bottom line is if you come across as a nice guy almost all girls will return the favor. Like you they want to have good time even though for them its a job. Lot of them work 6 nights a week so treat them right in public, make it fun give them the impression that they are on a date. Eat with them before taking them to the room. Go with them for a drink to another bar. Yes its little more expensive but if you want to minimize risk of a runner and build report with a girl then its worth it IMO. I do it most of the times anyway because I enjoy it myself, I simply enjoy building a bit more tension and momentum before the deed. Don't get me wrong you can skip all this and do what you seem to usually do as well and turn on the charm in your room too, that works too. The idea is for you to come across as nice whichever way you are comfortable. They do understand that it is easier being with someone that is nice and caring. Don't abuse them and don't try to hurt them or force yourself too hard. Talk to them, be funny, be friendly and once it comes to doing it they will return the favor. When doing the interview make it fun, joke about the naughty things you want done and suss her out if she needs to go home early for whatever reason. Some have kids to go back to. Some are local girls with families thinking they are working normal jobs.
Have fun.I agree with your concept on how to deal with the girls and the fact that there are no guarantees. I have been a ST guy for many years so doing the pre-sex stuff (food, bonding with them, etc.) is new for me. But I can see how that can add more enjoyment to the overall sex experince and make for a GFE. I guess with me, I already have to do that pre-sex stuff with my wife and girlfriend (not at the same time and of course they do not know each other) , so I like going to PI bar girls and getting down to business and after 2 hours, she is on her way. But I will give your approach a try and see how it works out.
You made a good point about the fact that is only a few bucks. For a night with a young filipina, it cost around $50 including tip. To most guys, including myself, $50 is nothing. So I agree with your comment that it is no big deal. Thanks for your feedback.
I am like you when it comes to not wanting to sleep in and wanting to eat breakfast. I really have no desire to buy the girl breakfast and spending the morning or day with herSame here. Usually I send the girl home in the morning with some tip, so she can buy her own food, before I take my breakfast.
Cheers!
Any moment now, some lurker will suggest we rename this the "breakfast" thread.
I like GFE, but have been in the mood of Ekspat many times. I've also regretted seeing a few excuse themselves after the morning session. I've even thrown out a few withoug shagging them just because their attitude changed so much during the ten minutes between bar and bed.
Same here. Usually I send the girl home in the morning with some tip, so she can buy her own food, before I take my breakfast.
Cheers!
Has anyone heard anything recently about issues at Clark? Been hearing some rumblings about hassles using Clark. TIA
ThatGuy865
05-10-12, 04:01
Has anyone heard anything recently about issues at Clark? Been hearing some rumblings about hassles using Clark. TIAIts an issue for the Girls trying to travel w / foreigner boyfriends. Going outside the country. Like to HK, BKK,
The PI is scrutinizing the girls tough (for potential "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)"). Stopping many from leaving period, or asking so many questions making the girls miss their flights. No refund!
There is no issue for Tourist, Its a Philippine issue. Unless you're trying to take a girl out of the country.
If you take the girl to manila. Its less hassle. Although not hassle free.
Currently in AC staying for a week.
Have not barfined any girls because I am with my GF who is providing all the sex and company I need.
However she is open for me to cruise the bars alone. Got tired of staying in Manila, so thought AC was a good diversion.
There are many old bars open with some new ones. Also some old bars with new names. Dirty Duck closed for good it looks like.
Drinks- Most perimeter bars charge 50-70 for a beer.
Fields avenue bars charge between 90. 140.
140 pesos at forbidden city.
Ladydrinks- All basic are 150 pesos. Make sure you mention the waitress you only want to buy 150 peso ladydrink before you offer.
Otherwise they will charge you 300 pesos.
Some bars have advertised outside saying certain days beer is 60 pesos and ladydrinks are 100 pesos.
Barfine- All fields avenue bars charge 1500 onwards. Average is 2000 pesos unless you want a spotlight girl.
Perimeter bars also charge 1200 upwards.
Punter situation- Bars are not crowded. I have seen many punters just come and have a drink and leave. Waitresses told me men have stayed away from barfining. Why? Do not know. Maybe they have regulars sneaking in after work.
Ofcourse you see certain overnight millionaires having lots of girls around and buying them drinks.
Hotels- Lots of construction is going on. Many new hotels are coming up.
I am staying at Devera Hotel. Clean, new, convenient. Some noise because of construction daytime.
Restaurents- None are crowded as I used to see before.
Girls- Bought ladydrinks to few. Most are in older age bracket around 23-27. Used to see lots of teeny boppers before.
Maybe because of all the raids have scared of young girls or bars hiring them.
Great Expecta
05-10-12, 20:34
I'm headed to the PI after a 7yrs absence and will either be going to Subic or AC. I have been to both about 7 years ago and stayed at the Blue Rock Resort while in Subic (Baloy Beach) and at the Blue Nile while in AC. I've been reading the FF and have read pluses and minus about AC. Is Subic a better monger hole than AC in so far as quality of the women and expense?
AC is superior. In fact guys will pick up a gal in AC and then hit the beaches of Olongapo. But why take my word for it, you can do both. Fly the Bus (Swagman) and Southern Cross run buses MNL / AC / Subic Bay everyday.
I'm headed to the PI after a 7yrs absence and will either be going to Subic or AC. I have been to both about 7 years ago and stayed at the Blue Rock Resort while in Subic (Baloy Beach) and at the Blue Nile while in AC. I've been reading the FF and have read pluses and minus about AC. Is Subic a better monger hole than AC in so far as quality of the women and expense?
In fact guys will pick up a gal in AC and then hit the beaches of Olongapo.Actually no need IMO. Don't underestimate the bars in Olongapo, lots of hotties there as well. I was there again recently after several years and I was pleasantly surprised.
Cheers!
PattayaTony
05-11-12, 05:49
Has anyone heard anything recently about issues at Clark? Been hearing some rumblings about hassles using Clark. TIAAirport security took 3 bottles of liquor from my checked in luggage, they are a pack of thieves.
Hi X,
Do you know if there a bus line that runs from Olongapo to Manila airport? Or do they all go back to AC first?
Thanks
AC is superior. In fact guys will pick up a gal in AC and then hit the beaches of Olongapo. But why take my word for it, you can do both. Fly the Bus (Swagman) and Southern Cross run buses MNL / AC / Subic Bay everyday.
Key Master
05-12-12, 03:59
Airport security took 3 bottles of liquor from my checked in luggage, they are a pack of thieves.Did they leave any bottles for you? I think there is a limit that you can take out, that was what I was told before.
PattayaTony
05-12-12, 04:17
Did they leave any bottles for you? I think there is a limit that you can take out, that was what I was told before.The guys were airport security staff not customs officers, anyway I know the country I imported it too said I can import up to 10 bottles. 2 duty free.
Guys, headed to Philippines on short notice. Want to make a run up from Manila for a few days. Don't have a lot of time for research? Does anyone know any cheap girl friendly hotels in Angeles City that can be booked through sites like Travelocity or Hotels. Com? I've found a lot of cheap places (between 15-30 a night) like Hotel V, Tune Hotels, Hotel California. Any of these ring a bell?
Not looking for luxury. My only requirements are a reliable safe, hot water in the shower, no bed bugs, and air conditioning.
Thanks a ton for any help!
Hi X,
Do you know if there a bus line that runs from Olongapo to Manila airport? Or do they all go back to AC first?
ThanksI took a bus return from Pasay Bus Station to Olongapo Town centre, I think the service runs every 20min or so. Service name escapes me. Took a trike from Subic, about a 20 min ride, return. Will drop you off at the station in Olongapo. Obviuosly, you will require taxi to airport. Hope this is helpful.
Noddy has already given you some info about the regular bus companies. I doubt that they will take you to the airport. The private foreign-friendly services I mentioned do not go to the airport.
Hi X,
Do you know if there a bus line that runs from Olongapo to Manila airport? Or do they all go back to AC first?
Thanks
I've found a lot of cheap places (between 15-30 a night) like Hotel V, Tune Hotels, Hotel California. Any of these ring a bell?You might want to check the Angeles hotel thread but Tune (owned by Air Asia) is new to AC and is currently having a sale:
http://www.tunehotels.com/
Reporter2010
05-12-12, 15:37
My only requirements are a reliable safeI agree that Tune Hotels seem generally worth a look, but I think you'll find they only offer room safes in the UK. See http://www.tunehotels.com/add-ons.
Reporter2010
05-12-12, 16:01
My only requirements are a reliable safe..
Sorry, please disregard my last post. It says elsewhere on the Tune site that "In-room safes are provided in all rooms (charges apply for UK hotels)".
Moderator, please feel free to delete both this post and my previous one!
I have stayed in Tune hotels a few times.
They are designed mor for the traveller who needs a place to crash for a while, than a short time hotel.
The rooms are very small, bu t they are immaculately clean, and the beds are comfortable. Everything works well.
You pay for the room only. If you want extras, then you pay, such as TV, aircon, internet.
The prices are low, so as a crash pad for a few hours, it is good value.
I could neveer imagine trying to stay there for more than maybe 12 hours.
G.
I agree that Tune Hotels seem generally worth a look, but I think you'll find they only offer room safes in the UK. See.
http://www.tunehotels.com/add-ons
Thanks for the info. That's what I thought. If they are anything like Air Asia or some of the other "add on everything" discount carriers, I'll want to avoid. Looks like I'll be seeking out an aparta-hotel.
The prices are low, so as a crash pad for a few hours, it is good value.Is it really? I've seen the Tune hotels pop up in my hotel searches, but they never come across as particularly budget; rather mid-range. I passed the AC Tune couple weeks ago. It looked pretty deserted, apart from (what looked like) some Malaysians exiting. They looked a bit disorientated. It's understandable, the location is high up on Perimeter, and you need to ride jeep / trike to Fields. IMO the uninviting budget color scheme alone is reason not to stay there. If you need a good cheap "crash pad" there's a SoGo in Dau, and as I understand it another one will open in Angeles (Balibago?) later on.
Royalpardesi2001
05-17-12, 19:42
Is there a problem in getting my Girl from Clark to Hong Kong or Should I book a flight from Manila?
Is there a problem in getting my Girl from Clark to Hong Kong or Should I book a flight from Manila?It will be a problem from both.
Read a number of posts on various threads about how so many girls have been bumped off flights unless they have letters of authority and plenty of USD in their possession.
You can try it if you don't mind losing the fare if she gets booted off
Royalpardesi2001
05-18-12, 02:55
Thanks for the post but how much is plenty of USD around 500. 1000?
It will be a problem from both.
Read a number of posts on various threads about how so many girls have been bumped off flights unless they have letters of authority and plenty of USD in their possession.
You can try it if you don't mind losing the fare if she gets booted off
Fast Eddie 48
05-18-12, 04:33
Is there a problem in getting my Girl from Clark to Hong Kong or Should I book a flight from Manila?To Royalpardesi2001.
I check yesterday from a travel agent at SM mall cebu pacific flight to Hong kong for Friday is 8000 p one way, flight to macau from clark is cheaper but no seat until Monday at 6500 p, seaair and tiger air already cancel flight to macau so it is better just
Fly out of manila more flight and options.
Fast Eddie 48
"Go back to your country!" I won't be going back to this barbershop.
In a previous life, I had a nice shave from this place right on Fields. While I was all wrapped up another guy came in. The other customer clearly asked that the shave go with the grain, not against. Almost immediately, the customer said,"No, I told you blah blah." My barber said a few words in Tagalog and things went smoothly from there. I talked a bit with the other customer, a soldier on R&R from Iraq. He was a young Af-American. I was very happy with my shave. Very smooth. I promised myself that I would do this again next time I was in AC.
I didn't think much about this, but six months later I walked in to the same place for a shave. It was late afternoon and the place was quiet. There was only one barber on duty. Immediately, there were a few misunderstandings. I work daily with people who are not native speakers, so I dumbed it down, repeated myself, etc. Nevertheless, the barber was completely misunderstanding me. So, he starts with what I suspect was a head shave even after I had clearly said I only wanted a shave. I had reached my limit and didn't want this guy near me with a razor. I said something to the effect that,"if we can't understand eachother, I don't want to continue." As I walked out he said,"Go back to your country."
Well, I wish I could speak Tagalog, but I can't. If you can get the guy who speaks English, great. His partner doesn't speak English. I ended up getting a nice shave from the barber / beauty salon near the Southern cross in Ermita. X
"Go back to your country!" I won't be going back to this barbershop.Your retort could be,"Go back to your province."
Hello guys, I've been reading a lot about angeles city and I'm thinking of going there for a vacation.
My goals are probebly obvious, want to get there, have a blast, have some nice time with bar girls, and enjoy their tight pussies.
Now I've really never had sex with prostitutes just twice in amsterdam, but if any of you guys have been with the girls there you should know they are actually quite rude and act as if they are the one's paying you LOL.
How are the girls in angeles city? Are they "service" orianted, I mean, are they just lying in bed like dead fish or do they want to have some fun too, and how are their attitude?
I've never really had a "sex" trip, so I'm a bit unsure about going to angeles city as I've heard it can be quite dangerous, and how fun is it to go there alone, without any friends with you etc?
What are the rates for the girls currently, most posts I've read seems to be outdated.
What are you expected to do and what are you expected to say when you want to get a girl "home" with you?
Would you say it's fun / save to go to angeles city for a first timer, that hasn't traveled a lot?
Thank you lads.
Hello guys.
I'm thinking of taking a vacation to angeles city, I've heard a lot about the girls etc from there so it seems like it could be an interesting trip.
But most threads I've read have been quite outdated so I wanted to ask you guys some questions if thats ok.
I've never really had sex with prostitutes before, just twice in Amsterdam but everyone thats been there knows the the girls are actually quite bitchy and rude they act as if they have paid you rather then you've paid them. So I'd like to know a bit about the attitude of the girls in angeles island, I mean are they nice to hang out with, do they lie in bed like dead fish or do they actually try to please you?
I've seen quite a few pictures from the photo gallary guys without condoms, either getting a blowjob without a condom or having vaginal sex without one, how safe is this really?
What are the rates for the girls?
How are you supposed to act and what are you expected to do when you take a girl out from a bar for an "early work leave"?
Do you get a taxi from the bar to the hotel, as I'm quite sure it's not so smart going around in the streets after dark with a prostitute.
I've never really traveled much, or had a "sex trip" ever. Is it safe to be in angeles city if you're not a 100% pro at these kinds of things.
And how fun is it being there alone, without going with a friends or something?
I know it's a lot of questions, but I'm hoping you'll want to answer them.
PS: Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
Pip Jaeger
05-19-12, 09:57
I got into Tropix a little later in the evening, about 11:30pm. The place was dead and the pickings were slim. I guess the hoties either went home or had already been taken. I talked to Lady Rose, a waitress, and she agreed to all of my desires. She also said she had no problem staying till around noon; she even got her bathing suit as we had talked about going for a swim in the morning.
Got back to the room about 1:00am and after the shower ceremony we got down to business. Despite what she agreed to in the club, she wouldn't do any BJ (covered or not) , didn't want me to go down on her and during sex she was barely responsive. I stopped once to make sure she was still breathing!
After I finished at about about 3:00am, she asked if she could leave at four to go see her kid. I told her to get dressed and leave now. At the door she actually had the gumption to ask for a tip!
I told her no BJ and you want leave early – I don't think so; don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
https://vimeo.com/42432059
First attempt with no real video aspirations. Gives a firstimer to AC a picture of what to expect once there. If you have arrived at the Dau bus station, alight, find yourself a Trike as in the video. Found close by. Hotels on Fields are a five minute ride. My co-passenger was a good ride, better than the Trike by far.
I put some answers below from my point of view.
I'm thinking of taking a vacation to angeles city, I've heard a lot about the girls etc from there so it seems like it could be an interesting trip.
But most threads I've read have been quite outdated so I wanted to ask you guys some questions if thats ok.
I've never really had sex with prostitutes before, just twice in Amsterdam but everyone thats been there knows the the girls are actually quite bitchy and rude they act as if they have paid you rather then you've paid them. So I'd like to know a bit about the attitude of the girls in angeles island, I mean are they nice to hang out with, do they lie in bed like dead fish or do they actually try to please you?
*Most bar girls in the Phils have a good attitude. But treat them well of course. My experience is that most are fun to hang out with and they are fun in bed. On occasion, I have kept a girl for a few days having fun. So definitely works sometimes. Obviously, you want to determine whether you have a good rapport with the girl at the bar. I usually don't ask direct questions such as will you do this, will you do that? How long will you stay etc. Anyway, if you have any luck, I think you will be pleasantly surprised compared to what you wrote about Amsterdam.
*Above is my average experience. I would say that 20% of the time the girl is no fun. In such a case, just give here a tip and cut your losses.
I've seen quite a few pictures from the photo gallary guys without condoms, either getting a blowjob without a condom or having vaginal sex without one, how safe is this really?
*I use condom in vaginal sex. The numbers aren't in your favor for not doing so. Reality. Also, I don't want to get them pregnant. Most girls in the Phils can't afford birth control pills, so it is a big risk. Of course, after you leave there is no direct consequence, but I personally don't like the idea of having a child in the Phils that I don't know about. Just my feeling.
What are the rates for the girls?
*I haven't been there in about two years so I can't remember exact rates on bar fine [was in Manila but not AC a year ago]. I tend to be a sucker, so I think my damage from bar fine and tip is $100 US dollars or less, but that is for good performance.
How are you supposed to act and what are you expected to do when you take a girl out from a bar for an "early work leave"?
*Not a big deal. No worries. That's the point!
Do you get a taxi from the bar to the hotel, as I'm quite sure it's not so smart going around in the streets after dark with a prostitute.
*My feeling is that overall Phils is pretty safe. Don't do anything dumb of course. AC in the correct area is "prostitution business" so no one cares. Also the girls generally dress normally when leaving the bar. If it is walking distance, should be fine. The main street has a lot of nightlife, so again no worries.
I've never really traveled much, or had a "sex trip" ever. Is it safe to be in angeles city if you're not a 100% pro at these kinds of things.
*AC is safe in the main areas. Again, don't do anything dumb. Also, like anywhere, I would avoid any altercations.
And how fun is it being there alone, without going with a friends or something?
*It's fun. And as I mentioned, there are girls who will want to stay with you for days.
*Anyway, overall AC is great. You can find some stunners and you can find some great performers. Overall Filipinas are pretty warm and will treat you great if you are generous and treat them kindly. Remember that the per capita income in Phils is very low, and so the money they make from you is very high. Thus they generally are motivated to show you a great time.
*Other suggestions. AC is a bar and bar girl focussed town, at least the sections where you are going. It is a bit of a dump. If you have time, I would go to Boracay. It is really beautiful and fun. Great party town. (but oddly enough there aren't many good options to pick up girls there; if you need sex in Bora, I would take a girl. I've done so previously)
*One other tip. Phils has a lot of freelancers outside the bars. Many are super gorgeous, but those could be ladyboys, so watch out! LOL I've never picked up from the street.
PM me if you have other questions. Happy to try to help.
I know it's a lot of questions, but I'm hoping you'll want to answer them.
PS: Any other suggestions are welcome.
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ThatGuy865
05-19-12, 23:33
Hello guys, I've been reading a lot about angeles city and I'm thinking of going there for a vacation.
My goals are probebly obvious, want to get there, have a blast, have some nice time with bar girls, and enjoy their tight pussies.
How are the girls in angeles city? Are they "service" orianted, I mean, are they just lying in bed like dead fish or do they want to have some fun too, and how are their attitude?
I've never really had a "sex" trip, so I'm a bit unsure about going to angeles city as I've heard it can be quite dangerous, and how fun is it to go there alone, without any friends with you etc?AC can be BIG fun. But I'm not sure if I would recommend it to a 1st timer "Monger" to go by themselves.
The women can be GREAT if you choose the right one. The danger w / the women is not physical but emotional. Especially for a 1st timer to the game and to the PI.
They will most certainly play the sympathy card. The poverty in the PI is ever present. And girls are genuinely poor as poor can be. They can appear to be the most innocent, sweet, enduring girl willing to please your every whim. But that's the web they weave. These girls are Pro's at this game. Seasoned mongers fall prey to their. Seemly innocent child like charm. And the seasoned girls. Know how to fleece a guy clean to the bone. While He's thinkin he's being the good Samaritan.
Going alone depends on you. There is nothing besides screwing and basically drinking beer to do all day and night. Other than that. Maybe go to the mall and hope there is a movie to see. Many people get bored w / nothing to do during the day. Especially if you are not a daytime drinker.
As far as Dangerous. I would not consider it any more dangerous than any other Major city. Even though it is a small place. The fact that everyone knows that foreigners come from all over. Means of course people are there looking to help rid you of your money. Be careful.
The most important rule for a 1st timer. No Filippino Man is your friend. They will walk over, approach you like you two are old time friends, try to say they met you at your hotel you must not remember. Do NOT stop for any Filippino no matter how friendly he appears if they approach you. Do NOT ever go ANYWHERE with one. Bottom line. They want something. This may sound like common sense advice. But you would not believe how may guys have been. Approached, taken to a house and robbed. And Newbie's are their main victims.
Other than that. AC can be "HEAVEN" on earth. If you are adventurous. I say go for it. It definitely is a "Bucket list" experience.
Unless you are the one who initiates it. Be leary of all who approach you.
Pip Jaeger
05-20-12, 01:44
Took a walk down Raymond St and found a tasty little morsel. 20 year old Josephine (yellow dress / more pics in the Photo Gallery) , at the Prince of Wales earlier in the day. During our ST session she told me that she also likes girls and we discussed everything that I like to do when I am with 2 girls. Josey said she's up for anything and that her gf. 18 year old Jessica fresh in from Cebu (2 weeks ago) , would be a good match up for us. I had her call Mama Lisa at the P of W and 'reserve' Jessica for us.
Fast forward to later in the evening. Josey and I went and picked up Jessica; LT'd both girls for 2, 800 pesos. This turned out to be one of the best 3somes I have had in years.
When I came out of the shower they were already going at it – 69'ing. 'Want get wet for you sir'. I dipped a finger into Jessica for a taste – strawberries are in most definitely in season here! As soon I hit the bed they began giving me a double BBBJ while I played with their little pussies with my fingers and a vibrator (a delightful new experience for Jessica). Moved on to Jessica mounting me cowgirl while Josy sat on my face.
We switched up for little while, then I spun Josey around to reverse CG, laid her back across me and had Jessica go down us. Nothing like having your balls licked and a tongue stroke your shaft during sex. This was new for both girls and I'm sure that they'll add it to their bag of tricks. Also did some pussy to mouth – Josey had already told Jessica that's one of the things I like and true to a good GFE girl she is, she did it on her own. Took me out of Josey, BJ'd for little while and like the good little girl she is – carefully put my cock back into Josey's soaking wet pussy. Swapped the girls around and kept on going, but this time Josey also took up the vibrator and began using it on herself. After she came Josey started using the vibrator on Jessica and me. Needless to say Jessica came soon and her cum leaked out onto my nuts – a real gusher – which Josey promptly cleaned up with her tongue.
We played around like this for while, changing positions and partners; taking one or the other K9 while they ate each other. I finished off giving Jessica a creampie which Josey went down and quickly lapped up. She of course shared it Jessica and they engaged in bit of snowballing, after which we collapsed and took a nap. Later on in the wee hours rounds 2 and 3 went pretty much the same way. My hearty thanks again to the makers of vitamin V!
Footnote: I was thinking of doing a repeat on Monday, but found out that Jessica got her period a few hours after we had finished (BTW, Mama Lisa warned me of this before we left the night before, but I decided to take my chances) – guess I'll just have to wait and come back again before heading home the end of next month. LOL
Hello guys.
I'm thinking of taking a vacation to angeles city, I've heard a lot about the girls etc from there so it seems like it could be an interesting trip.
But most threads I've read have been quite outdated so I wanted to ask you guys some questions if thats ok.
I've never really had sex with prostitutes before, just twice in Amsterdam but everyone thats been there knows the the girls are actually quite bitchy and rude they act as if they have paid you rather then you've paid them. So I'd like to know a bit about the attitude of the girls in angeles island, I mean are they nice to hang out with, do they lie in bed like dead fish or do they actually try to please you?
I've seen quite a few pictures from the photo gallary guys without condoms, either getting a blowjob without a condom or having vaginal sex without one, how safe is this really?
What are the rates for the girls?
How are you supposed to act and what are you expected to do when you take a girl out from a bar for an "early work leave"?
Do you get a taxi from the bar to the hotel, as I'm quite sure it's not so smart going around in the streets after dark with a prostitute.
I've never really traveled much, or had a "sex trip" ever. Is it safe to be in angeles city if you're not a 100% pro at these kinds of things.
And how fun is it being there alone, without going with a friends or something?
I know it's a lot of questions, but I'm hoping you'll want to answer them.
PS: Any other suggestions are welcome.
ThanksJoin in with someone from the board here for bar hop and to get some idea of where is safe.
Lot of great girls here in ac. I love being here but also hate some of the things here.
Too many beggars and thieves but if you walk fast and remember that you got to pay attention to what you are doing
It is mostly safe.
The bars have some really great girls and some losers. Its hit and miss and depends on luck and what you find that you are compatable with.
I have lived here for four years.
No condoms has its risks.
I sent you an inbox message.
Also I am happy to do some bar hop when or if you are here and I am here at same time.
You can have lot of fun here. Just be careful don't trust people on the street.
Glad to answer any other questions. My favorite hotel is wild orchid and abc hotel. On the expensive side
And there are some other ones less expensive that are nice
To Royalpardesi2001.
I check yesterday from a travel agent at SM mall cebu pacific flight to Hong kong for Friday is 8000 p one way, flight to macau from clark is cheaper but no seat until Monday at 6500 p, seaair and tiger air already cancel flight to macau so it is better just
Fly out of manila more flight and options.
Fast Eddie 48Biggest problem with taking girls out of the country is immigration now.
They have gone crazy with refusing to let girls out.
The word is that the girl has to take a class in manila from commission on filiipinos overseas in quezon city.
Cfo.
I know girls that travel a lot out of the country and have been refused recently.
Also many guys take a girl and the immigration will not let the girl leave the country.
They say they don't want them to be sex slaves.
I have not heard of them asking for money yet to allow them out.
Fellas,
Unfortunately I'm short on time and having a lot of problems with the search function (not sure if this is related to the problem that seems to have renamed a lot of threads). Could someone fill me on where / how to rent a cell phone for a few weeks in Angeles City, coming in via Clark airport?
Thanks!
Dick Hertz
05-20-12, 04:45
The good news is that I'm back in AC, the bad news is that I lost my phone with all the the girls I meet. I was able to find most of then but not one of my favorites. Of couse the first thing I did was to go to the bar she worked at which I did not know had move. One Eyed Wench has expanded and Treasure Island is now on Santo street. Talk to mamasan at there and Lollipop which has same owner to find out she is no longer there but it sounded like she is at another bar but they was not going to say which. The girl I am looking for is name Girlly but not sure if I spelled it properly. She would probably with her sister Gisele a cherry girl and friend form same province name Lillybeth. If anyone knows if there are still around AC at a differt bar please tell me because I would love to see them again.
The good news is that I'm back in AC, the bad news is that I lost my phone with all the the girls I meet. I was able to find most of then but not one of my favorites. Of couse the first thing I did was to go to the bar she worked at which I did not know had move. One Eyed Wench has expanded and Treasure Island is now on Santo street. Talk to mamasan at there and Lollipop which has same owner to find out she is no longer there but it sounded like she is at another bar but they was not going to say which. The girl I am looking for is name Girlly but not sure if I spelled it properly. She would probably with her sister Gisele a cherry girl and friend form same province name Lillybeth. If anyone knows if there are still around AC at a differt bar please tell me because I would love to see them again.She may be working in another city or could be sponsored and out of the game so you might never find her. If you have and post a picture of the girl it may help.
Pip Jaeger
05-20-12, 07:36
Last night's delight. Marylou & Reychelle, a pair of 20 year old spinners from the Q club. Thunder & lighting outside and plenty of boom boom inside too. LOL
Pip Jaeger
05-20-12, 07:44
Todays lunch time treat; Justine. 18 years old. 4'10 and a wopping 31kg (68lbs). Another little spinner ST'd from Raymond St. (more pics in photo gallery)
Fellas,
Unfortunately I'm short on time and having a lot of problems with the search function (not sure if this is related to the problem that seems to have renamed a lot of threads). Could someone fill me on where / how to rent a cell phone for a few weeks in Angeles City, coming in via Clark airport?
Thanks!Why rent? What's the reason?
Go to any Nokia shop and buy a brand new Nokia 1280 for 880 php. Buy a SIM (60 php) and load 50 or 100 for 1000 php all up. You have a really strong little phone that you can use anywhere with other SIMs and it fits easily in the pocket. It also lasts around 3. 4 days on a single charge. I have 2 of them now they are so good and I always take one with me when I work anywhere in SE Asia and back in Australia too.
Why rent? What's the reason?
Go to any Nokia shop and buy a brand new Nokia 1280 for 880 php. Buy a SIM (60 php) and load 50 or 100 for 1000 php all up. You have a really strong little phone that you can use anywhere with other SIMs and it fits easily in the pocket. It also lasts around 3. 4 days on a single charge. I have 2 of them now they are so good and I always take one with me when I work anywhere in SE Asia and back in Australia too.Thanks for the tip. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Never been to Angeles before, but have been other parts of the PI. I'm assuming these shops abound in AC?
Thanks for the tip. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Never been to Angeles before, but have been other parts of the PI. I'm assuming these shops abound in AC?Also Rick, one of the best things to do is go on Ebay and buy an UN-locked phone. That way, no matter what country you go into, you can buy one of their SIM cards and pay for minutes as you go. I have a couple that I use, in Mexico, and another for other countries.
Also Rick, one of the best things to do is go on Ebay and buy an UN-locked phone. That way, no matter what country you go into, you can buy one of their SIM cards and pay for minutes as you go. I have a couple that I use, in Mexico, and another for other countries.My method is way way easier than running the EBay route. You get a brand new cheap Nokia under warranty in your hand that works as soon as you step out of the shop and you can use it anywhere.
The only reason that you need a second phone is for texts to or from contacts, or an occasional call. Waste of time on EBAy to get a phone simply to do that. Anyway JMHO.
Dick Hertz
05-20-12, 11:05
She may be working in another city or could be sponsored and out of the game so you might never find her. If you have and post a picture of the girl it may help.I have pictures but only on my home computer and not with me here. She was not special looking but did have a real nice ass though and give a great performance in the bed. Thanks for trying.
My method is way way easier than running the EBay route. You get a brand new cheap Nokia under warranty in your hand that works as soon as you step out of the shop and you can use it anywhere.
The only reason that you need a second phone is for texts to or from contacts, or an occasional call. Waste of time on EBAy to get a phone simply to do that. Anyway JMHO.Probably a lot of people thinks the only way to get a phone is through the "free" deals of the providers. Not coming for fee for sure, but locked to spend all your money with them too. Any brand / type of phone is available in phone shops and at a cost that is not a killer. Ideally one should buy one that shares the same battery charger plug of his main phone, making life easier in terms of battery recharge, adaptor, etc. One can then store all his monger if contacts in the second phone only, keeping it away from undesired eyes. Lots of phones have a camera and the photo of the girl can be linked to her profile in the phone book. Just remember to memorize all in the phone and not in the SIM card. These have a validity of appr 6months if not refilled or used by then. Not a big deal if you travel to the same country more often than once a year. Otherwise your sim card and phone number becomes void.
Undercoverh
05-20-12, 17:21
Took a walk down Raymond St and found a tasty little morsel. 20 year old Josephine (yellow dress / more pics in the Photo Gallery) , at the Prince of Wales earlier in the day. During our ST session she told me that she also likes girls and we discussed everything that I like to do when I am with 2 girls. Josey said she's up for anything and that her gf. 18 year old Jessica fresh in from Cebu (2 weeks ago) , would be a good match up for us. I had her call Mama Lisa at the P of W and 'reserve' Jessica for us.
Fast forward to later in the evening. Josey and I went and picked up Jessica; LT'd both girls for 2, 800 pesos. This turned out to be one of the best 3somes I have had in years.
When I came out of the shower they were already going at it – 69'ing. 'Want get wet for you sir'. I dipped a finger into Jessica for a taste – strawberries are in most definitely in season here! As soon I hit the bed they began giving me a double BBBJ while I played with their little pussies with my fingers and a vibrator (a delightful new experience for Jessica). Moved on to Jessica mounting me cowgirl while Josy sat on my face.
We switched up for little while, then I spun Josey around to reverse CG, laid her back across me and had Jessica go down us. Nothing like having your balls licked and a tongue stroke your shaft during sex. This was new for both girls and I'm sure that they'll add it to their bag of tricks. Also did some pussy to mouth – Josey had already told Jessica that's one of the things I like and true to a good GFE girl she is, she did it on her own. Took me out of Josey, BJ'd for little while and like the good little girl she is – carefully put my cock back into Josey's soaking wet pussy. Swapped the girls around and kept on going, but this time Josey also took up the vibrator and began using it on herself. After she came Josey started using the vibrator on Jessica and me. Needless to say Jessica came soon and her cum leaked out onto my nuts – a real gusher – which Josey promptly cleaned up with her tongue.
We played around like this for while, changing positions and partners; taking one or the other K9 while they ate each other. I finished off giving Jessica a creampie which Josey went down and quickly lapped up. She of course shared it Jessica and they engaged in bit of snowballing, after which we collapsed and took a nap. Later on in the wee hours rounds 2 and 3 went pretty much the same way. My hearty thanks again to the makers of vitamin V!
Footnote: I was thinking of doing a repeat on Monday, but found out that Jessica got her period a few hours after we had finished (BTW, Mama Lisa warned me of this before we left the night before, but I decided to take my chances) – guess I'll just have to wait and come back again before heading home the end of next month. LOLReading your post makes me really miss Raymond St. I have been lucky enough to find a few cute and young ones (18 and over) there, over the years. In general, I find these girls to be more nice and better GFE then the Fields bar girls. And for 1400 LT, what a deal. Blow row and Raymond street girls provide good service most of the time, but the girls on Fields look better, genearlly speaking. As for me, I am fine with the looks on Blow row and Raymond st when the girl are fresh off the boat and 18, tight pussy and willing to provide GFE.
When I come back to AC in 3 months, I will head over to Raymond. This time, I want to take pics and HD video. Question, when you take pics or HD of the girls, do you ask them? Or, just start taking pics? Do you pay them extra and / or discuss upfront you want to take pics. Also, do you have sex with them without condom? I tried this twice about 10 years ago on blow row, but I have not done it lately. I always have them give me a BJ with no condom, but I have not had sex with them without a condom lately. I assume that most of them will still have sex with no condom, but I have not asked. I was so close to doing that on my last trip with one girl from Raymond st. She was 18, 5 days on the job, short, slender, and a tight wet pussy! I was so close to doing it, but I got worried nd a chickened out. I guess I was worried because I have a long time 19 year old girlfriend in Manila so I did not want to catch something and then past it on to her.
Also, nice hotel room, which hotel is that?
Also Rick, one of the best things to do is go on Ebay and buy an UN-locked phone. That way, no matter what country you go into, you can buy one of their SIM cards and pay for minutes as you go. I have a couple that I use, in Mexico, and another for other countries.That doesn't work for me a lot of the time, since I'm shipping out of Korea, traveling frequently to Japan, and unlocked GSM phones don't work there. Or vice versa.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt buying one for the brief trip to AC, but it may be just as easy to grab one in town.
Thanks for the help though
That doesn't work for me a lot of the time, since I'm shipping out of Korea, traveling frequently to Japan, and unlocked GSM phones don't work there. Or vice versa.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt buying one for the brief trip to AC, but it may be just as easy to grab one in town.
Thanks for the help thoughG3 phones do work in Korea and Japan too, as well as in the rest of the world, of course.
I'm not going to argue about something like that. There are no GSM networks in South Korea or Japan. If you have a GSM phone with international roaming you can use it (for a premium) , but you can't get a SIM that will work on any local network, since they are 3G CDMA2000 800 MHz or 3G UMTS 2100 MHz. On top of that, the law in both countries requires every phone to be attached to a verified I'd. This means I'd, credit cards, etc, are required for rentals, prepaid phones and SIMs.
Some phones sold in the two countries can operate on GSM networks if you take them abroad.
Pip Jaeger
05-21-12, 08:06
Reading your post makes me really miss Raymond St. I have been lucky enough to find a few cute and young ones (18 and over) there, over the years. In general, I find these girls to be more nice and better GFE then the Fields bar girls. And for 1400 LT, what a deal. Blow row and Raymond street girls provide good service most of the time, but the girls on Fields look better, generally speaking. As for me, I am fine with the looks on Blow row and Raymond st when the girl are fresh off the boat and 18, tight pussy and willing to provide GFE.Even with my very limited experience here, I too feel the GFE service on Raymond St. Has been better than from the few girls whom I taken from Fields. But naturally YMMV. 1400 per girl for a minimum of 12 hours is truly a bargain in my book! Of course I usually take them for dinner or order up something for room service and will give them a tip (if the service warrants it) plus some chocolate. But even with the extras it's still a great deal.
When I come back to AC in 3 months, I will head over to Raymond. This time, I want to take pics and HD video. Question, when you take pics or HD of the girls, do you ask them? Or, just start taking pics? Do you pay them extra and / or discuss upfront you want to take pics.I'm sure more experienced members here can give you better advice about this topic. For the ladies I've been with I have asked first, IMHO it is more respectful to do so. I haven't offered nor been asked, so far, for any extra pesos for the privilege of taking pics. I have started with them fully clothed. It seems to me that most Filipinas love having their pic taken and it kind of warms them up to the idea. As I'm doing that I joke with them about taking a few naughty pics,"just for me", LOL, and gauge their reaction.
Also, do you have sex with them without condom? I tried this twice about 10 years ago on blow row, but I have not done it lately. I always have them give me a BJ with no condom, but I have not had sex with them without a condom lately. I assume that most of them will still have sex with no condom, but I have not asked. I was so close to doing that on my last trip with one girl from Raymond st. She was 18, 5 days on the job, short, slender, and a tight wet pussy! I was so close to doing it, but I got worried nd a chickened out. I guess I was worried because I have a long time 19 year old girlfriend in Manila so I did not want to catch something and then past it on to her.Much has been written here on the various threads about bareback sex with these girls and opinions vary from one end of the spectrum to the other. So, for what it's worth, this is my opinion. I prefer bareback and for me the benefit outweighs the risks. From RTTF and other sources I have gathered that the risk of HIV / Aids here in the Philippines is so low as not to be a concern for me. For your other STD's most, if not all, can be quickly cured if detected early. I carry a couple of "Z-Packs" (Google it) and I will probably use one when I leave here as a preventive measure. I know the girls are supposedly checked weekly for STD's and that offers some comfort. Your concern for your gf is justified, but I guess it boils down to personal preference.
Also, nice hotel room, which hotel is that?I'll PM you the hotel info. For privacy reasons prefer not to post my exact location when I am still there. I will post a review of my hotel next week from Cebu.
I'm not going to argue about something like that. There are no GSM networks in South Korea or Japan. If you have a GSM phone with international roaming you can use it (for a premium) , but you can't get a SIM that will work on any local network, since they are 3G CDMA2000 800 MHz or 3G UMTS 2100 MHz. On top of that, the law in both countries requires every phone to be attached to a verified I'd. This means I'd, credit cards, etc, are required for rentals, prepaid phones and SIMs.
Some phones sold in the two countries can operate on GSM networks if you take them abroad.My experience is that it is not a matter of SIM card, but of phone set.
I had a blackberry, non G3, that didn't work even with a local Japanese SIM. I then got a 3G blackberry, or any other 3G phone, will do too as once I borrowed one, and it worked with my own (european) SIM card in both countries.
Undercoverh
05-22-12, 04:09
Even with my very limited experience here, I too feel the GFE service on Raymond St. Has been better than from the few girls whom I taken from Fields. But naturally YMMV. 1400 per girl for a minimum of 12 hours is truly a bargain in my book! Of course I usually take them for dinner or order up something for room service and will give them a tip (if the service warrants it) plus some chocolate. But even with the extras it's still a great deal.
I'm sure more experienced members here can give you better advice about this topic. For the ladies I've been with I have asked first, IMHO it is more respectful to do so. I haven't offered nor been asked, so far, for any extra pesos for the privilege of taking pics. I have started with them fully clothed. It seems to me that most Filipinas love having their pic taken and it kind of warms them up to the idea. As I'm doing that I joke with them about taking a few naughty pics,"just for me", LOL, and gauge their reaction.
Much has been written here on the various threads about bareback sex with these girls and opinions vary from one end of the spectrum to the other. So, for what it's worth, this is my opinion. I prefer bareback and for me the benefit outweighs the risks. From RTTF and other sources I have gathered that the risk of HIV / Aids here in the Philippines is so low as not to be a concern for me. For your other STD's most, if not all, can be quickly cured if detected early. I carry a couple of "Z-Packs" (Google it) and I will probably use one when I leave here as a preventive measure. I know the girls are supposedly checked weekly for STD's and that offers some comfort. Your concern for your gf is justified, but I guess it boils down to personal preference.
I'll PM you the hotel info. For privacy reasons prefer not to post my exact location when I am still there. I will post a review of my hotel next week from Cebu.Thanks so much for your reponse, it has really helped me. I will take your advice about the pics. I agree with your comments about food and tips, as I always taken the same approach. I have a new 720p HD spy pen with sound that works great. I plan to use it when I go to AC. I will just put it in the pen cup holder with the other pencils and pens, and place it on the table facing the bed. I has about 60 minutes of record time, so enough to get the first hour of sex and fun. The HD pen looks just like a regular pen. On my last trip to Manila, I used the HD spy key chain with my older long time girlfirend. I placed it next to the bed, and she never noticed it was a recorder. I obtained great footage of the wonderful sex we had. I only mentioned this because, some girls may not like me taking a video of sex with them. And, if they allowed it, they may not perform in a relaxed manner. Therefore, I will bypass aksing to take video and just use the spy pen and spy key chain. I will certainly ask to take their pics. Thanks again for the info!
Chris Long
05-22-12, 06:00
Thanks so much for your reponse, it has really helped me. I will take your advice about the pics. I agree with your comments about food and tips, as I always taken the same approach. I have a new 720p HD spy pen with sound that works great. I plan to use it when I go to AC. I will just put it in the pen cup holder with the other pencils and pens, and place it on the table facing the bed. I has about 60 minutes of record time, so enough to get the first hour of sex and fun. The HD pen looks just like a regular pen. On my last trip to Manila, I used the HD spy key chain with my older long time girlfirend. I placed it next to the bed, and she never noticed it was a recorder. I obtained great footage of the wonderful sex we had. I only mentioned this because, some girls may not like me taking a video of sex with them. And, if they allowed it, they may not perform in a relaxed manner. Therefore, I will bypass aksing to take video and just use the spy pen and spy key chain. I will certainly ask to take their pics. Thanks again for the info!These sound great, how do I get one of these.
Thanks.
Chris
It sounds pretty unethical to me.
Undercoverh
05-22-12, 14:45
These sound great, how do I get one of these.
Thanks.
ChrisMade by a company named Swann. There is a place online that has several stores in California named Frys. Beware, lots of fakes out there and the quality is shit. Stick with Swann products, I always have and I have used other Swann products having to do with my job. Best of all, the price is only around $100, plus the price of a mirco card. Check out YouTube for a demo. Just type Swann 720p HD spy cam. Beware, go with the new model which is 720p HD, not the old model. Also, you can see the many spy cam key chains on YouTube. Have fun!
Member #4698
05-22-12, 17:28
Made by a company named Swann. Beware, lots of fakes out there and the quality is shit. Stick with Swann products, I always have and I have used other Swann products having to do with my job. Best of all, the price is only around $100, plus the price of a mirco card. Just type Swann 720p HD spy cam. Beware, go with the new model which is 720p HD, not the old model. Have fun!What a great gadget. The sound quality is not great, but over all it is a very good product. Amazon is selling it for $80 and SanDisk 16g micro SDHC memory card is $13 extra. I can't wait to try mine out at the Lisboa Racetrack in Macau.
Sir Lancelot
05-22-12, 23:44
I visited every bar on Fields Av in February so here is a map I compiled as well as a list of my TOP TEN BARS. Apologies for the delay in posting but I've had computer troubles, plus I've been writing a 60+ page diary (which I will probably post on these pages at a later date). To come up with my ten favourite bars was difficult because there are so many great bars and factors to consider. My advice is to visit as many as possible as great girls can be found everywhere (all prices correct Feb12).
MY TOP TEN BARS IN ANGELES:
1. ATLANTIS: The biggest bar is ATLANTIS, with 100+ girls each night and the easily the highest number of good lookers. The bar-fine is 1800 or 3000 depending on the girl. A&8200; definite must-see and unlike its SuperClub competitors Dollhouse and Forbidden City, there is no pressure to buy lady-drinks. Atlantis is window-shopping at its best and you even get a bowl of pop-corn with your drink.
2. TYPHOON: A much cosier venue, Typhoon has lots of young girls squeezed on to a thin stage in the middle of the bar. To take a girl away you buy her a 2000 bottle of 'Party Animal'. A good bet for very pretty girls. Every few minutes the girls take a step to the left which and like all Pasha Group bars the girls parade around the bar after they leave the stage. Meaning you get a great view of the girls. I bar-fined a gorgeous girl from here with the cutest face and sexiest body imaginable (who was happy to pose naked afterwards).
3. BODY SHOP: A new bar for me this trip, located just along from Tropix, opposite Orchid Inn. It doesn't look too promising from the outside (no flashy signs or screaming hello girls) but it has a great atmosphere inside with lots of pretty girls having lots of fun. Bar-fine is 1800.
4. CAROUSEL: Plenty of girls and a unique layout as the dancers stand on a rotating stage which means you get a great look at all of the girls. 80+ girls and some cute waitresses too. Lots of pretty girls can be found here. 'Bar-fine' is a 2000 bottle of Party Animal.
5. PONY TAILS is located at the start of Perimeter Road (a three minute walk from the Fields Avenue 'Walking Street' sign). It opens early so is perhaps one of the best bets for afternoon action (bar-fine 1500/1800). I bar-fined perhaps the prettiest girl of my trip from here on my penultimate night. I wish I had discovered it earlier!
6. INSOMNIA: When a manager of another bar recommends Insomnia as 'the best bar in Angeles' it must be good! The bar is located near Hotel Natalia and has lots of pretty girls and the best bet if you're a boob-lover like me. The stage is in the middle but try to sit on the left-hand side when you walk in. Great atmosphere. Bar-fine is 1865 pesos.
7. DRAGON'S DEN: Near the end of Fields Av, Dragon's Den is in the same block as Club Asia and Emperor's Lounge. Dragon's Den is my favourite of the three as it has nice girls and good shows. There is a two-tiered bar-fine of 1800/3000 but some of the 1800 girls are very pretty (I took a beautiful 'hello girl' from here for 1800 pesos who loved watching porn between pops.
8. CRYSTAL PALACE: This place is very popular and always packed as a result. 80+ girls, all young, many pretty with a two tier 1800/3000 bar-fine. One disadvantage is that the girls don't move around the stage very much so you only see those stood at the front. Resulting in a heaving mass of young flesh on the stage (not the worst criticism that could be levelled at a bar!). Bar-fined a really sexy girl from here who was a tiger in the bedroom.
9. LOLLIPOP: A lot of the bars I've mentioned are the bigger bars but it's always worth going on a bar-crawl and visiting the small bars too. They might have less girls but they often have a relaxed atmosphere. But most of all, gems can be found at very cheap prices. I saw one of the prettiest girls of my whole trip in Lollipop and the barfine is just 1600 (nearly half the price of a girl of a similar standard in Atlantis for example).
10. ONE EYED WENCH: Halfway down Fields, One Eyed Wench is located down a narrow corridor near Lancelot. There are normally some very pretty 'hello girls' outside luring you in. The bar-fine here is just 1500 pesos, making it one of the best value bars on Fields Avenue. There are some very pretty girls.
Other bars: It was extremely difficult for me to come up with a top ten because there are so many great bars but here are a few more that I enjoyed:
- BLUE&8200; NILE: BF1800/2000/2500. Another bar I'd recommend. Girls dance on a stage which raises up and the most expensive girls are those dancing on the tables. I bar-fined a girl from here for 2000 pesos who gave me the best sex I've ever had (she'd wake me up in the middle of the night for another session!).
- GENESIS: BF2000. Stage in middle of room surrounded by seats. Girls move about the stage, giving customers a good view. Some very pretty girls here. Bar-fined a really sweet girl from here.
- CAMBODIA: BF1800. This didn't impress me on my previous visit but now they have more girls (about 50) and some pretty ones too. Popular with ex-pats this place has a great atmosphere and the girls clap whenever a customer walks in, a nice touch I think. I tried to bar-fine a pretty girl called Jane from Leyte but she was on her 'mens'. Some very nice girls.
- QBAR: BF1800 SM95. Formerly Shark, only 12 girls were dancing but they put a lot of effort in and the place had a great atmosphere. Like all small bars, definitely worth visiting as there are some pretty girls to be found.
- LOVE N MUSIC: BF2000/3000. A very smart layout, looking like a high-class bar. The girls are similarly classy, wearing elegant dresses instead of bikinis. On both my visits there were only four girls dancing but about ten were sat on the sidelines. Quality of girls seemed very good although the place lacked atmosphere (maybe one to visit after 10/11pm).
- LA BAMBA: BF1800. A small bar with a cosy layout, this place is busy with customers and there is a really fun and friendly atmosphere. 15 girls were dancing when I visited including a few pretty ones. Another of the smaller bars that is definitely worth visiting.
- DOLLHOUSE: BF2000/3000. This place has a circular stage surrounded by tiered seating. It's a mixed bag. There are some pretty girls and they often have catwalk shows but a big downside is that Dollhouse is easily the worst bar on Fields Avenue when it comes to being pressured in to buying lady-drinks. Some lovely girls and I bar-fined a really cute and innocent girl from here for 3000 pesos.
Like I said, I visted every bar on Fields Avenue and there were many pretty girls, even in bars I haven't listed. I recommend starting early and visiting five or six bars per night, returning to your favourite to bar-fine the girl you liked most. Good luck and I hope my map is helpful.
Lancelot
Undercoverh
05-23-12, 04:19
What a great gadget. The sound quality is not great, but over all it is a very good product. Amazon is selling it for $80 and SanDisk 16g micro SDHC memory card is $13 extra. I can't wait to try mine out at the Lisboa Racetrack in Macau.BEWARE! Amazon has sold fake Swann Pencams. How do I know, I purchased one about a year ago. It was a cheap fake from Hong Kong. I know Swann products and know it always come in a Swann box, with quality instructions, etc. This cam came in a bag. It took me 5 weeks to get a refund. Buy a pencam from Amazon at your own risk. My advice, pay $20 more and buy from FRYS online, and you can rest assured that it is a legit product from FRYS.
The sound quality on my Swann spy pencam is pretty good, considering the mic is micro in the pen. When u play back, you sould be able to hear pretty good (which depends on your play back method). As for me, I take my lap top with me on trips. I record using the pen, download to my laptop, view the video on my lap top, and also save to my laptop. The pen is recharged by plug into your USB port on your laptop. I have been to Lisboa Racetrack and the pen will work well. My advice, is to sit in the cafe facing the door where the girls walk by and let the pencam do its duty. Or, u can put the pen in your shirt pocket and walk around there, but the picture will shake. Try what workes for you. I have also taken the pencam to Thailand to the MP there. I find that the spy key chain works better form the stand point of not being noticed. It is easy to sit the key chain, with a few keys on it, on the table facing the bed. Put your other items next to it like some coins, etc. Make it seem like you just took some stuff out of your pants pocket and laid it on the table. Of course, do not forget to take it with you when u leave. There are 100s of ways the spy cams can be used. Have fun!
You guys are reminding me of the dude who got jailed, and nearly disappeared, in Pakistan for several months after customers officers at the border noticed that his watch had a micro spy cam inside of it and accused him of being a spy.
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