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FreebieFan
07-10-12, 02:08
LOL, . I have a bag of toys in phils but never give the gift that keeps giving LOL. Chocolates and **** wear is all they get from meAll mine also used to get chocolates and bikinis and slutwear.
But on a recent trip to HK was around Temple street market area and the little two inch long rockets were selling for about US$5.
Stocked up on those and all of my last 6 ladies I met in Manila last trip all got one. And from their comments on YM, all are very hapy with them.
Except of course for one overly ambitious girl who ran the batteries down in 2 days and now wants me to bring batteries on next trip.
Guess the little barangay sari sari stalls don't come stocked with vibrator batts. LOL.
David. I will also make sure with the pocket rocket they are fully and freshly shaved. LOLHow do you shave a pocket rocket? :)
Slim
How do you shave a pocket rocket? :)SlimThey = the girls.
Member #4351
07-10-12, 16:30
all of my last 6 ladies I met in Manila last trip all got one.Not an intelligent move.
You are probably right. Any recommendations on where to go? Truth is, I don't have insurance or a ton of money, and I'm deathly afraid of doctors.Having seen photos of late stage cyphilis, I'd really really implore anyone with an STD to get it looked at by a doctor.
Self medicating may fix the infection, or it may just contribute to more antibiotic resistance in the bugs. Scary.
Doctors have the knowledge about current antibiotic resistance and can put you on a COURSE OF ANTIBIOTICS, which must be completed as prescribed.
The nitpicking about grammar is pretty childish, IMHO. Some people don't have the education or written skills to write at an advanced level, it is much better to have people who are generous of heart and of good humour than an english professor who tries to pick holes in others! I am happy with my written skills, and that's all I am concerned about!
Don't mean to preach, after all it is my first post on the AC section of this forum. I make my first trip to AC in Feb for 15 nights. I'll be staying at the Pacific Breeze, hope it's ok.
I make my first trip to AC in Feb for 15 nights. I'll be staying at the Pacific Breeze, hope it's ok.I was there last year as well for 10 days, was a good choice. Perfect location and good value for money. Enjoy your stay.
I saw a doctor and got medicine. Thanks.
FreebieFan
07-13-12, 05:48
Not an intelligent move.Send me your number so I can check with you the "intelligence "factor of all future decisions that I might be contemplating. LOL.
I saw a doctor and got medicine. Thanks.That was a wise move. I do not see the point to get medical counseil through the internet.
I was there last year as well for 10 days, was a good choice. Perfect location and good value for money. Enjoy your stay.Thanks for the feedback Nordmann.
I have emailed Annie a couple of times and was suprised at her English skills.
PB looks good, the jacuzzi should be umm useful. ; )
I saw a doctor and got medicine. Thanks.Be a good idea to also get tested for Hep A, B & C, HIV and some other other bugs. I don't know of the period of time to wait before getting tested, sorry. Maybe a couple of months, maybe 6.
Hopefully there is a free clinic where you are living, or you are suitably financial.
Not trying to scare you, but for your own longevity you need to know.
Wicked Roger
07-14-12, 08:36
Send me your number so I can check with you the "intelligence "factor of all future decisions that I might be contemplating. LOL.FF and WR are of the same mind. David and I discuss this mater over coffee at times and we always agree to disagree. And we both liked them shaved FF. Another intelligent discussion David and I have LOL :)
I will see you both this year hopefully, and I will likely be 'armed' with some pasalubongs. Well we must always accessorise as well gents
You are right that Macau is not comparable to AC in price and I also think in terms of quality. The Chinese super models in the top Saunas go for $200 to $275 for ST and a healthy number of them are really beautiful. On another level, Filipinas FL's hanging out in Macau bars like MP3 want $100 or more for LT and most of them are not very attractive at all, IMHO.can't really agree on the Macao comment. I pulled a lot of stunners in macao. Firstly the girls in DD or Lions bar have a higher education. So since you can have an actuall conversion the GFE is much better. I socred big time serveral times when I had a sauna Girl to meet me at my hotel for 1000 HK.
Aslo a ST in a sauna in not comparedable to a ST in PI its just not the same.
With the Euro beeing so low I paid hughe amounts in Shanghai for FL Philipinas and viets compared to Macao.
Go to ladies night in the hard rock cafe on wednesdays. Free drinks for girls = tons of FL, semi pros with very good english skills.
Member #4698
07-19-12, 01:08
I pulled a lot of stunners in macao. Firstly the girls in DD or Lions bar have a higher education. So since you can have an actuall conversion the GFE is much better. I socred big time serveral times when I had a sauna Girl to meet me at my hotel for 1000 HK. Also a ST in a sauna in not comparedable to a ST in PI its just not the same.
Go to ladies night in the hard rock cafe on wednesdays. Free drinks for girls = tons of FL, semi pros with very good english skills.Osuul, I posted my response in the Macau thread since the discussion is more about Filipinas in Macau than AC. See you there.
Harry Dude
07-20-12, 13:15
You are right, it is one of the better afternoon bars, but I also liked making it my nightcap bar as I was leaving Fields and heading back to my hotel. One night my girl and I met a really pretty cherry girl there. She said she was 21. I could not believe somebody hadn't taped her yet. She was beautiful. I bought a round of Tequila shots and the three of us played pool.I just returned from AC. Regarding cherry girls (virgins) , one of the girls I met said there were 4 or 5 cherry girls working in the bar she worked in. These girls will be happy to provide BJ's, but will not do FS unless you pay between 75000 to 100000 pesos (that's not a typo: between seventy five to one hundred thousand pesos). Happily we're all different, but I would not pay that kind of money for the pleasure of fucking a virgin, regardless of how beautiful she might be.
Member #4698
07-20-12, 15:58
Happily we're all different, but I would not pay that kind of money for the pleasure of fucking a virgin, regardless of how beautiful she might be.Personally, I don't think fucking a virgin is very pleasurable. Some guys must be really into it or else there would not be such a premium for the cherry. I think it is mainly a bucket list item for guys who have never had a virgin before and want to experience what it is like and for a few guys that get off on busting the hymen. As far as I am concerned; been there, done that, and no thank you even if the cost was the same as a regular girl. I would rather be the 4th, 5th or 20th guy to have her after she has been broken in properly and is now looking to have a good time. This particular cherry girl I played pool with was really pretty. I am definitely going to stop by Pony Tails next time I am in town and see if she is still around and has hopefully been penetrated. I would love to spend some time with her if she is ready for me.
Harry Dude
07-20-12, 16:48
Personally, I don't think fucking a virgin is very pleasurable. Some guys must be really into it or else there would not be such a premium for the cherry. I think it is mainly a bucket list item for guys who have never had a virgin before and want to experience what it is like and for a few guys that get off on busting the hymen. As far as I am concerned; been there, done that, and no thank you even if the cost was the same as a regular girl. I would rather be the 4th, 5th or 20th guy to have her after she has been broken in properly and is now looking to have a good time. This particular cherry girl I played pool with was really pretty. I am definitely going to stop by Pony Tails next time I am in town and see if she is still around and has hopefully been penetrated. I would love to spend some time with her if she is ready for me.I completely agree, Natty. I would rather be the 50th guy in fact.
When I heard about this pricing for cherry girls, I was immediately reminded of the highly entertaining book "Memoirs of a Geisha", where geishas would sell their virginity to their patrons at insane prices.
Next time you are in AC you may want to check out Dunk Shot Music Lounge near Diamond Subdivision. It has what you like, Chinese type. White, tall, boobs.Hi McDon,
Please tell me more about the price for ladies and gentleman drinks as well as long term take out at the Dunk Shot.
I googled Dunk Shot and one source says its a smokey karaoke bar with lots of lovely ladies and rooms for private sessions.
Since I'm more interested in take out can you tell me if it's possible and how to go about it.
Thanks in advance for your help!
LN
Capt Munch
07-21-12, 02:50
I just returned from AC. Regarding cherry girls (virgins) , one of the girls I met said there were 4 or 5 cherry girls working in the bar she worked in. These girls will be happy to provide BJ's, but will not do FS unless you pay between 75000 to 100000 pesos (that's not a typo: between seventy five to one hundred thousand pesos). Happily we're all different, but I would not pay that kind of money for the pleasure of fucking a virgin, regardless of how beautiful she might be.1. I can remember one of my trips. Probably 6 or 7 years ago. Playing pool with a Drop Dead Gorgeous Cherry girl. And asked her the same thing. The answer was 100, 000 pesos. I told her to let me know when she was no longer a cherry girl. I ran into her the next year and she was still cherry. So nobody ante'd up at that point.
2. About the same trip, I bf'd from one of the Fields bars, a real shy girl apparently fresh from the province the week before with only one bf to her name. When we hit the sack and in process. It was obvious that she lacked experience. I did ask her to let me drive. Afterwards, in chatting, I asked her about the number of times she had boom2. She had her boyfriend (1) , her 1rst barfine (2) and whatever little experience I could give her. (3) (4) (5). Fast forward a few years and I see her in the same bar (or I should say she spotted me) and we take off. A few years experience made a difference and for a more rewarding session. A few years and a few miles and a few pounds, just did not make it repeatable after that.
3. A couple of years ago, found a cute "cherry" door girl. Still had a "V" on her card but had lost her virginity to a Japanese tourist and was about 3 months pregnant. Now that was a cherry girl experience I enjoyed. Sweet young lady whom I tried to find the next trip but may have retired (with child)
It seemed to me like that the 75 to 100K pisos was something that the Japanese and possibly the Koreans like to spend their money on. To each his own. I would rather see the young ladies that have some previous experience.
My 1 piso (and 1 more post)
ManonsanBoy
07-21-12, 06:08
1. I can remember one of my trips. Probably 6 or 7 years ago. Playing pool with a Drop Dead Gorgeous Cherry girl. And asked her the same thing. The answer was 100, 000 pesos. I told her to let me know when she was no longer a cherry girl. I ran into her the next year and she was still cherry. So nobody ante'd up at that point.
It seemed to me like that the 75 to 100K pisos was something that the Japanese and possibly the Koreans like to spend their money on. To each his own. I would rather see the young ladies that have some previous experience.
My 1 piso (and 1 more post) I know a mamasan in China who can supply you with a real Cherry. 4000 UD but she has a number of er."copies". She says her girls average about 3 suckers per cherry. But she assures me if I want one, it will be "the real thing".
I know a mamasan in China who can supply you with a real Cherry. 4000 UD but she has a number of er."copies". She says her girls average about 3 suckers per cherry. But she assures me if I want one, it will be "the real thing".Personally I'd prefer some experience.
I'd imagine expecting a GFE from a young girl who is coping with the emotions of first sex along with the awkwardness of breaking in a new pussy would be asking a bit much.
Pretty hard to imagine a comfortable loving feeling coming out of that!
I went to an Indonesian brothel in the mid 80s (area we called Jungle Bars, as opposed to the higher standard area of Dolly Bars) in either Jakarta or Suribuya-can't remember which. A very young girl was sent into the room and she was terrified, nothing happened. I got my money back. I have no reason to think she was under 18, and I wouldn't have touched her if she was, but she certainly was NOT up for it!
WestCoast1
07-21-12, 08:55
Munch, tried to PM you, but you're not a paid member. Pay up stud, its only 20 clams.
Ave mongers,
I have some pics to share in the beautiful AC.
Rocco
WestCoast1
07-21-12, 20:04
Ave mongers,
I have some pics to share in the beautiful AC.
RoccoRocco, you might want to redact the girl's faces (and tattoos or identifying jewelry) next time. I tried to PM you, but you are not a paid member yet? Pay up the $20.
Nice pics.
Ave mongers,
I have some pics to share in the beautiful AC.
RoccoAs well as WCs suggestion to cover the girl's faces, you might also have a bit more discretion about showing the faces of other guys in the bar.
Remember some travellers in AC don't always tell those at home where they are holidaying, and there are some really nasty people around who would not hesitate to report a mate if they get the opportunity.
Who knows who is seeing these pics and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be shown as a bystander in one of your pics.
Wicked Roger
07-22-12, 07:17
Remember some travellers in AC don't always tell those at home where they are holidaying, and there are some really nasty people around who would not hesitate to report a mate if they get the opportunity.
Who knows who is seeing these pics and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be shown as a bystander in one of your pics.I agree with WC1 and RK as this happened to a friend though not in AC who was on a golf holiday. Co worker saw this somewhere and casued a lot of issues back home (he was single but was used in his work place)
This is a 'newbie' mistake but I would also agree pay the $20 please
Being in AC now, full swing of rainy season. Today it was raining almost the entire day with only short dry moments.
Peso pretty strong now, the USD gives you 41. 7ps only.
Otherwise business as usual, my favorite for the afternoon session is still Pony Tails, very good selection there at cheap barfines with normal and spotlight girls at 1500 and 1800ps respectively. Found a nice 22y / o "hairy wonder" yesterday, hehe, I'm loving it! Tight pussy, great boobs, a bit on the chubby side what I actually don't dislike, full GFE. Three great bangs from 10pm until 11am next, no attempts of being a runner at all.
Too bad that we have picture size restrictions here, the original picture taken with Nikon D800, 36 Mpix, so terrific sharp, nice to zoom in, yummy!
Anyone around for a cold SMB? PM me.
Cheers!
I agree with WC1 and RK as this happened to a friend though not in AC who was on a golf holiday. Co worker saw this somewhere and casued a lot of issues back home (he was single but was used in his work place)
This is a 'newbie' mistake but I would also agree pay the $20 pleaseMany years ago (in the 80s) when I was in the Navy, we had a mess party in a bar in Ermita in Manilla.
The door prize was a BJ on the stage.
The bloke who won was married, and balked at partaking. His boss, a senior NCO, had the BJ prize.
As we were pretty drunk, there was photos taken.
On the cruise home, some frantic requests were made and all film (remember film? LOL) was surrendered for the sake of his marriage. If he had not been popular, it is possible that the request might not have been honoured, but no problem. His wife never found out as far as I know! The film cartridges probably got thrown over the side. To quote Ellen Ripley "It's the only way to be sure".
That's what editing software is for brother. Anyway, hi-res photos like that are only really useful for printing or special situations.
That's what editing software is for brother. Anyway, hi-res photos like that are only really useful for printing or special situations.
True, plus the Nikon D800 should have a way to save a jpeg of much smaller size when you take the photo.
Irfanview (free download) does batch resizing/rotation etc and is one option..
I use Gimp on Linux.
Hope that helps.
WestCoast1
07-22-12, 19:24
Too bad that we have picture size restrictions here, the original picture taken with Nikon D800, 36 Mpix, so terrific sharp, nice to zoom in, yummy!
Cheers!Vader and RickRock are right. If you are using a powerful camera (I do) , you should already be familiar with photo-editing software. Most bbs sights require you to shrink your pics before uploading them. Social media sites, like Friendster, FB, etc. Will accept your larger-sized file when you upload it, but they shrink it before placing it on your page, then they discard the large original. Two freebies you can download:
1. Irfanview (google it, it has its own website). Also download (besides the program) the 'Plug-ins'. Under the File drop-down menu, get used to the "Batch Conversion / Rename" option. This will take your entire folder of large-sized picture files and reduce them to any size you want. Directions, a primer for all:
'a') make sure your image files are saved in a folder, and make sure you have a separate destination folder where you want the smaller files to be saved;
'be') In Irfanview, drop-down File menu, then Batch Conversion / Rename;
'see') In the new dialogue box, choose: Batch Conversion, Output Format = JPG;
'd') top-right box, browse and find your saved picture folder, select your images (one or many / all) , and click ADD so they show up in the bottom-right box, make sure you place these in your destination folder;
'e') ADVANCED Tab (you will get a new dialogue box) , check the box RESIZE, then set the Width and Height boxes to 640 pixels, then check the box Preserve Aspect Ratio, then click OK to return to the previous Batch Conversion dialogue box;
'f') Click Start Batch, and let it run.
Now all the files in your destination folder will be shrunk to a size you can upload here. If this seems complicated, you need only do it once. Then the software remembers these preferences for the next time. Irfanview has also some decent Photo-shop editing tools, and its free. Irfanview won't blur faces, but it will allow you to cut out a section of face (or tattoo) to make that area black. Irfanview also allows you to watermark, or place text on the picture. Some of the unusual pix I've posted in the past that have a blue or gold hue to them were done with a few clicks in Irfanview (one was recent, with the dildo and hitachi vibrator).
2. PhotoScape. I don't think it resizes in a batch format (lots of pics at once) , but it will allow you to resize any single pic, and its free, and has some nice photo-editing tools, like facial blur. It also allows watermarking text on the picture (including making the text lighter or darker).
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Not-so-free is PhotoShop (now called Creative Suite I think). It does just about anything you can think of to do, including editing the pics and batch rename / resize.
Thanks guys, actually I know how to resize a photo. I guess I had a bit too much beer yesterday, just simply forgot the attachement.
Enjoy AC!
WestCoast1
07-23-12, 20:36
Thanks guys, actually I know how to resize a photo. I guess I had a bit too much beer yesterday, just simply forgot the attachement.
Enjoy AC!Anytime you attach a pic, your apology is accepted. More san migs for Ekspat!
I just returned from AC. Regarding cherry girls (virgins) , one of the girls I met said there were 4 or 5 cherry girls working in the bar she worked in. These girls will be happy to provide BJ's, but will not do FS unless you pay between 75000 to 100000 pesos (that's not a typo: between seventy five to one hundred thousand pesos). Happily we're all different, but I would not pay that kind of money for the pleasure of fucking a virgin, regardless of how beautiful she might be.Once a cherry works in one of the regular bars, the price is marked up: mamasan and friends tell her to ask for 100. 000 PS. Or as alternative squeeze out double lady drinks from the customer: she can make a lot of money out of thet and can go back 1 or 2 years later and marry her waiting BF as cherry in the province.
Santos bars are for many the stepstone. Fresh girls are not that "in the know" I got 1 time a cherry from there for 15. 000. Another time I met a bar girl in the afternoon. She brought a friend along who just arrived and had not yet a job. When the bar girl went to her work, she stay with me- and once in the sack found out she was a cherry. She wanted to work but was afraid as cherry she would not get any customer. She didn't tell her friend also. Really well protected back home. Not allowed to go out. But one day run off to her friend in AC to make big money. At the end she was thankful that I popped her.
But well. Those are rare cases.
I agree with WC1 and RK as this happened to a friend though not in AC who was on a golf holiday. Co worker saw this somewhere and casued a lot of issues back home (he was single but was used in his work place)
This is a 'newbie' mistake but I would also agree pay the $20 pleaseWR, WC1 and RK, you guys do YOUR THING and let the other BM's do theirs. Frankly 95% of the pics these guys (WC, RK, WR) put forth are predictable and boring, my opinion,"but whatever floats your boat" have a ball, enjoy yourselves. The pics ProfetaPK posted are of a bargirl IN THE bar, blur her face AND the pic is worthless. There are zillions of pics of bars and bargirls all over the net. The pic where a few customers faces are in view are so small it's ridiculous to even mention it.
We're all big boys here so YOU do your thing (WC1, RK, WR) and let the others post the kind of pics that they like w / out the browbeating. If the bar allows pics then take them, sure blur out any easily recognizable faces, but blurring out small background faces is not necessary unless the guy in the background ask you to censor. W / the ladies, if you ask before hand some ladies will agree to photos w / no restrictions. Every freaking pic does not have to be censored. There are beautiful faces, eyes, smiles and lips all over the net w / no consequences to anyone except the for viewer. The viewer (us) get to actually be in the moment of the action, to see the beautiful ladies of the world. So if you want to censor everything w / out question fine do it. But please don't push this boring style on everyone else.
I know these guys can argue a point to death and they are welcome to do it. I said my piece. And one last thing. This is the AC section, where are the current post and tr's on AC, or do I have to go elsewhere to find out what is happening NOW in AC?
WestCoast1
07-24-12, 20:40
WR, WC1 and RK, you guys do YOUR THING and let the other BM's do theirs. Frankly 95% of the pics these guys (WC, RK, WR) put forth are predictable and boring, my opinion,"but whatever floats your boat" have a ball, enjoy yourselves.Noted sir. Also, when someone such as myself has posted as many pictures as I have (or, say AR / CS) , eventually the style may become boring. That won't change the pics, or style (ala Kaintuck in the Thai forum).
The pic where a few customers faces are in view are so small it's ridiculous to even mention it.Respectfully disagree. Please see the DragonSlayer forum / Mindanao thread. Recently I posted about Butuan, including discussion and pics of local transportation. Almost all local transport in that town is by orange trykes (difficult to find a taxi). I posted at least one pic taken from inside at tryke, showing the large number of trykes on the road in front of me. In the pic are two boys, crossing the street. They are small in the pic, but they are innocents. They might be minors. Their faces (or other identifiable features) must be hidden. The last thing we want is for some person (or their parent) to hear: "Hey Robert. You (or your son) are posted on a sex site!"
We're all big boys here so YOU do your thing (WC1, RK, WR) and let the others post the kind of pics that they like w / out the browbeating. If the bar allows pics then take them, sure blur out any easily recognizable faces, but blurring out small background faces is not necessary unless the guy in the background ask you to censor. W / the ladies, if you ask before hand some ladies will agree to photos w / no restrictions. Every freaking pic does not have to be censored. There are beautiful faces, eyes, smiles and lips all over the net w / no consequences to anyone except the for viewer. The viewer (us) get to actually be in the moment of the action, to see the beautiful ladies of the world. So if you want to censor everything w / out question fine do it. But please don't push this boring style on everyone else.Again, respectfully disagree. Every picture with a person who did not agree to be photo'd and posted online must be censored (at least on a sex site). When I post a girl online, even with her face blurred, she's given permission for me to do so (blur or no blur). The photo previously posted with the white guys in the bar, faces shown, can be dangerous. Several of us on this very board have been, in the past, blackmailed (or attempted) from other ISG members. Its of no concern to us that a bargirl posts a pic of herself in her bar, with white guy's faces showing, on her FB. But if someone here lifts / copies it and pastes it here (or he takes it himself in the bar and posts it here) , unedited, then that's a problem, and the board Administrator must deal with it and possibly remove it.
I know these guys can argue a point to death and they are welcome to do it. I said my piece. And one last thing. This is the AC section, where are the current post and tr's on AC, or do I have to go elsewhere to find out what is happening NOW in AC?When I'm ready to post some AC pics soon, I'll post the field reports also.
Noted sir. Also, when someone such as myself has posted as many pictures as I have (or, say AR / CS) , eventually the style may become boring. That won't change the pics, or style (ala Kaintuck in the Thai forum).
Respectfully disagree. Please see the DragonSlayer forum / Mindanao thread. Recently I posted about Butuan, including discussion and pics of local transportation. Almost all local transport in that town is by orange trykes (difficult to find a taxi). I posted at least one pic taken from inside at tryke, showing the large number of trykes on the road in front of me. In the pic are two boys, crossing the street. They are small in the pic, but they are innocents. They might be minors. Their faces (or other identifiable features) must be hidden. The last thing we want is for some person (or their parent) to hear: "Hey Robert. You (or your son) are posted on a sex site!"
Again, respectfully disagree. Every picture with a person who did not agree to be photo'd and posted online must be censored (at least on a sex site). When I post a girl online, even with her face blurred, she's given permission for me to do so (blur or no blur). The photo previously posted with the white guys in the bar, faces shown, can be dangerous. Several of us on this very board have been, in the past, blackmailed (or attempted) from other ISG members. Its of no concern to us that a bargirl posts a pic of herself in her bar, with white guy's faces showing, on her FB. But if someone here lifts / copies it and pastes it here (or he takes it himself in the bar and posts it here) , unedited, then that's a problem, and the board Administrator must deal with it and possibly remove it.
When I'm ready to post some AC pics soon, I'll post the field reports also.I knew you would argue every point and that's fine. Like I said, whatever floats your boat. I always like interacting w / you and you have gotten better over the last year w / classier pics. It would be nice if you changed it up once in a while but I won't hold my breath for that to happen. I am also starting to realize that it is different when you live there and see these filipinos everyday. So knock yourself out and post away. Same w / your buddies. SOS everyday day is fine w / me. Cheers.
Wicked Roger
07-25-12, 03:43
WR, WC1 and RK, you guys do YOUR THING and let the other BM's do theirs. Frankly 95% of the pics these guys (WC, RK, WR) put forth are predictable and boring, my opinion,"but whatever floats your boat" have a ball, enjoy yourselves. The pics ProfetaPK posted are of a bargirl IN THE bar, blur her face AND the pic is worthless. There are zillions of pics of bars and bargirls all over the net. The pic where a few customers faces are in view are so small it's ridiculous to even mention it.
We're all big boys here so YOU do your thing (WC1, RK, WR) and let the others post the kind of pics that they like w / out the browbeating. If the bar allows pics then take them, sure blur out any easily recognizable faces, but blurring out small background faces is not necessary unless the guy in the background ask you to censor. W / the ladies, if you ask before hand some ladies will agree to photos w / no restrictions. Every freaking pic does not have to be censored. There are beautiful faces, eyes, smiles and lips all over the net w / no consequences to anyone except the for viewer. The viewer (us) get to actually be in the moment of the action, to see the beautiful ladies of the world. So if you want to censor everything w / out question fine do it. But please don't push this boring style on everyone else.
I know these guys can argue a point to death and they are welcome to do it. I said my piece. And one last thing. This is the AC section, where are the current post and tr's on AC, or do I have to go elsewhere to find out what is happening NOW in AC?Gents.
This is from a guy who has less than 150 posts, see his track record. Barely posts a photo and when I looked back no faces either and some were clearly taken from other web sites IMHO. He spoke about not showing dicks and then does exactly that LOL.
And he tends to be an a*hole as complain too much in the photo gallery about no faces yet so far does not do what he preaches.
Socker is another of the one handed typists who can't find many girls so lives his life throught others and wishes he could pull the girls.
Socker, when you post pictures to support your views fine, but you don't and please don't tell guys to stop showing their dicks in photos when you clearlly like doing it LOL
Earn respect on the board or better still go back to Colombia (where I think that board is fully moderated by Jackson. And now we can see why based on your FR) and try to do as you preach. Rather than preach to others what you don't do yourself
Gents.
This is from a guy who has less than 150 posts, see his track record. Barely posts a photo and when I looked back no faces either and some were clearly taken from other web sites IMHO. He spoke about not showing dicks and then does exactly that LOL.
And he tends to be an a*hole as complain too much in the photo gallery about no faces yet so far does not do what he preaches.
Socker is another of the one handed typists who can't find many girls so lives his life throught others and wishes he could pull the girls.
Socker, when you post pictures to support your views fine, but you don't and please don't tell guys to stop showing their dicks in photos when you clearlly like doing it LOL
Earn respect on the board or better still go back to Colombia (where I think that board is fully moderated by Jackson. And now we can see why based on your FR) and try to do as you preach. Rather than preach to others what you don't do yourselfWell well, I got a rise out of WR, haha. I would match my pics against yours any day. You are more prolific just like McDonalds is at making hamburgers. My burgers are for connoisseurs who appreciate some sensuality and beauty in their burger, haha, some freaking EXCITMENT!
All I said is why not change the formula around once in a while. That's all. I also said it was MY OPINION (about your one demensional boring pics) and I have a right to voice it HERE. Call it whatever you want, complaining or preaching, your opinion is as good as your taste in pics. I praise quality and I give constructive criticism so that the board might be more entertaining and exciting. If you think your pics are exciting, and the best they can be, than do your thing, but I think they're not.
Take a look at post 4720 in The PG. WR's 10 pics of the backs of 2 chicks, the back of their heads, and their backs. After the viewer looks at pic 1 & 2 why would he continue looking at the rest, there all the same, pics of the backs of 2 women. WR, WTF is that? That's your idea of contributing to the picture gallery, I wouldn't show those boring ass pics to a blind man. In my library those get deleted, job one. Compare your pics to the others pics (in the gallery) and you are low man on the totem pole, WAY LOW, hahahaha
Pretty much everything ELSE you have to say about me is fabricated. Complete Bullshit. I suggest YOU PROVE (your barely understandable diatribe) about all my paranoias and limitations. You are really turning out to be a little baby. I will be waiting for your next CLASSIC SET OF BIG MACS, can't wait to check them out. Haha, you twit!
WestCoast1
07-25-12, 17:43
I knew you would argue every point and that's fine.Yes, but respectfully.
Take a look at post 4720 in The PG. WR's 10 pics of the backs of 2 chicks, the back of their heads, and their backs. After the viewer looks at pic 1 & 2 why would he continue looking at the rest, there all the same, pics of the backs of 2 women. WR, WTF is that? That's your idea of contributing to the picture gallery, I wouldn't show those boring ass pics to a blind man. In my library those get deleted, job one.I look at all of them, from everyone. I rarely skip a pic; I can decide later if its worthless to me. I never delete a pic. Keep posting WR.
all my paranoias and limitations. Haha, you twit!Hey. I had to look up in the dictionary some of those words. I didn't know I was paranoid until I read the definition. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean the CIA isn't trying to get me.
FruitNinja
07-25-12, 17:46
Yes, but respectfully.
I look at all of them, from everyone. I rarely skip a pic; I can decide later if its worthless to me. I never delete a pic. Keep posting WR.
Hey. I had to look up in the dictionary some of those words. I didn't know I was paranoid until I read the definition. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean the CIA isn't trying to get me.Ohh thank goodness. They're after you now. I can sleep.
Once a cherry works in one of the regular bars, the price is marked up: mamasan and friends tell her to ask for 100. 000 PS. Or as alternative squeeze out double lady drinks from the customer: she can make a lot of money out of thet and can go back 1 or 2 years later and marry her waiting BF as cherry in the province.
Santos bars are for many the stepstone. Fresh girls are not that "in the know" I got 1 time a cherry from there for 15. 000. Another time I met a bar girl in the afternoon. She brought a friend along who just arrived and had not yet a job. When the bar girl went to her work, she stay with me- and once in the sack found out she was a cherry. She wanted to work but was afraid as cherry she would not get any customer. She didn't tell her friend also. Really well protected back home. Not allowed to go out. But one day run off to her friend in AC to make big money. At the end she was thankful that I popped her.
But well. Those are rare cases.Very few are " Cherry " girls when they arrive in AC. Most had one BF and had " young Sex " in the sense that both girl and the boy do not know really what they did. Hymen is generally broken but may not be completely broken.
Mamasans, Bar owners do not promise anything when it comes to " Cherry Buying ". There is no certificate of authenticity from Doctor. It is more like buyers beware. Negotiations take place directly between the girl and you. Sometimes girls are barfined only to come back and tell the bar she is not a cherry anymore. In some cases girls tell the guy buying "cherry " wants the agreed amount deposited in the bar just because she does not want the guy to skip town after the deed. No complaints are entertained by the bar or no refunds given even if the guy finds out in some way the girl is not a virgin.
For many girls " Cherry " status is one way to escape sex. They want to earn money but do not want to have sex for money or has a bf they are in love with. Only good looking girls get away with this.
It is hard to say who is real virgin and who is not. I have barfined some virgins and experience ranges from full sex to just kissing and sucking on boobs. I barfine them fully knowing there may not be any sex. I like to take them dancing.
Among those who had sex some never objected. Others only did it after asking me not to tell anybody in their bar.
Some girls did everything except allow penetration although they were dripping wet and horny. I guess those girls must be real virgins not wanting to loose big payday.
I have had few real virgins through dating sites. Some I have paid 15, 000 pesos. When I chat it is already agreed. Couple of them did not want anything but I did take care of them monetarily and took care of their schooling etc.
My burgers are for connoisseurs who appreciate some sensuality and beauty in their burger,Your burgers. I see. Muhahaha, nice to get up after an exciting bumbum-night in AC with a pretty 19y / o and reading such amazing contributions!
Keep going, buddy, maybe one day in the future you'll make it to AC!
Cheers!
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Some girls did everything except allow penetration although they were dripping wet and horny. I guess those girls must be real virgins not wanting to loose big payday.
I have had few real virgins through dating sites. Some I have paid 15, 000 pesos. When I chat it is already agreed. Couple of them did not want anything but I did take care of them monetarily and took care of their schooling etc.For newbies and others: just remember that most filipinas think that you cannot get pregnant if you are a virgin taking it for the first time.
A majority of single mothers (data drawn from a barangay midwife / health official) have had one pop only from an inexperienced teen pinoy and a baby resulted.
Sometimes the taking of the virginity overrides the possibility that she can get pregnant with her very first experience.
Just saying.
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Mamasans, Bar owners do not promise anything when it comes to " Cherry Buying ". There is no certificate of authenticity from Doctor. It is more like buyers beware.I'm sure there are lots of guys who payed a premium thinking they got a virgin when they actually didn't. If you got a bigger cock than the average pinoy and you are her first non-pinoy then there is a good chance she will bleed. That doesn't mean she is a virgin, however.
If I were to lay out 100k pesos to fuck a virgin, I would get two doctors to inspect the pussy before paying. I don't know why guys lay out this kind of cash without doing any due diligence before hand.
I just had another chat with my friendly barangay health officer.
She said that.
*virgins don't know about condoms.
*pinoys never want to use condoms.
*most girls don't know about safe sex times.
*filipinas are VERY fertile. Not much difficulty for them to conceive at any age.
RESULT: Experimental sex almost always ends in pregnancy. Those of you chasing virgin pussy who will not be using protection or who are not vasectomized should also remember about the add-on consequences of fucking a virgin.
I am not being an asshole by saying this, nor am I moralising. Just saying that there are other things to consider than just popping a cherry
FreebieFan
07-26-12, 08:53
For newbies and others: just remember that most filipinas think that you cannot get pregnant if you are a virgin taking it for the first time.
A majority of single mothers (data drawn from a barangay midwife / health official) have had one pop only from an inexperienced teen pinoy and a baby resulted.
Sometimes the taking of the virginity overrides the possibility that she can get pregnant with her very first experience.
Just saying.Like many guys (all guys here?) I chat to one or two ladies who say they got pregnant because the local confident lad managed to get her panties down. And then 3-5 months later she realises she's pregnent. So then she goes to find the boy to tell him.
In ALL cases except ONE (over past 15 years chatting) she says " HE ran away". I ask did he run fast? She invariably says " his phone was off, his parents and friends didn't know where he was and he didn't reply to her emails ". Sad but consistently true.
Filipino boys. The worlds most irresponsible ethnic group.
Have Socker and Tally Wacker lost their touch in posting pictures ("The Philippines" photo area), or is there an approval time before they are viewable?
Those of you chasing virgin pussy who will not be using protection or who are not vasectomized should also remember about the add-on consequences of fucking a virgin.Perhaps the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy with a bar girl won't dawn on the bloke, he'll be home before the girl knows she's pregnant.
And a lot wouldn't care if they knew, I suspect!
Chocha Monger
07-26-12, 14:15
*filipinas are VERY fertile. Not much difficulty for them to conceive at any age.
RESULT: Experimental sex almost always ends in pregnancy.This is only true when they are inseminated by Filipinos. Pinoy sperm is much more potent than poriner sperm. Most Filipinas are impregnated by their Filipino boyfriends even when they have sex with poriners on the side for money.
I'm sure there are lots of guys who payed a premium thinking they got a virgin when they actually didn't. If you got a bigger cock than the average pinoy and you are her first non-pinoy then there is a good chance she will bleed. That doesn't mean she is a virgin, however.I have had few young girls in AC bleed. Sometimes it is because it is the end of their period. Other times whoever had their cherry did not open it up fully. Remember their pussies are small and if they are young and not had many dicks in their pussy tend to bleed.
I believe Koreans and Japanese are buying " Cherries " according to my friend mamasan who works in Agasya. Ofcourse Agasya tend to cater to them only. They may not open the pussy fully.
Last time I came to Angeles was in 2008, about 4 years ago. I am coming again in August. Can someone update me with the latest prices for the girls at the various places. I know I could read the thread but was hoping someone could save me the time. There are 10, 602 posts for Angeles! Cheers.
WestCoast1
07-26-12, 21:16
Last time I came to Angeles was in 2008, about 4 years ago. I am coming again in August. Can someone update me with the latest prices for the girls at the various places. I know I could read the thread but was hoping someone could save me the time. There are 10, 602 posts for Angeles! Cheers.BS, not to be smug, but you've been on the forum for about 5 years, and have 30 posts. I took more time to go back and read your posts (mostly from Thailand and Brazil) than you are wanting to spend RTTF. Almost all of your posts are not informative, in fact in most of them you ask questions, not wanting to RTTF for that country. The following is indicative:
Just found out that Cat 2 typhoon Fengshen passed through Philippines over the weekend. On wunderground it shows the track as being close to Boracay and going through Manila, and Angles City. All my favorite places. Any reports? Is AC still standing? Everyone OK? Girls still fucking? . From AC page 550!
Mostly you ask questions, and don't post Field Reports. Please tell us of your experience (in detail) in Brazil, Thailand, and AC. Hotel reviews, girl pics and performance reviews, bar reviews, restaurant reviews, where you play golf (and the cost). Even as an experienced hand, you appear to be a newb. Spend 1-2 hours reading backwards the last 15-20 or so pages, you will see we've been posting prices of various bars (one gent has an excellent report on not only bar pricing, but ambiance, at 15 bars). Its not fair to not post detailed reports, then ask questions of the experienced hands. If you had just read to pages 2, 6, and 11 of the AC thread, you would see current Field's pricing (it took me under 20 minutes total to read back thru your posts and the last 15 pages of posts here). If you don't have time for us, do we have time for you?
I know I could read the thread but was hoping someone could save me the time.As someone put it, why should anyone here spend / waste HIS time to save YOURS? Is there any rational in such a demand?
There are 10, 602 posts for Angeles! Cheers.It's a lot, isn't it? That means that at least 2000 people (average 5 times each) spent their time in writing something, adding a contribution. Amazing. Isn't it? And you? Anything? Not even where you bought Penthouse in Angeles to enjoy yourself back in 2008 (as we assume that was it!).
(it took me under 20 minutes total to read back thru your posts and the last 15 pages of posts here). If you don't have time for us, do we have time for you?Sorry guys. I guess this post says a lot about both of us. And yes by your standards I am a newbie which is why I was hoping to learn from your experience. It does seem odd that someone would spend 20 mins doing research in order to shoot me down in flames when it would take only 1 min to answer the question.
Wanting to learn from experiences of others but unwilling to read back as suggested. Are you serious? Get real! Every time I go somewhere I read back to the previous year at least.
I'm not going to post a criticism of this guy only though. I thought Atlantis was one of the best places I dropped into. Quite high bar fines but good line up. Some really large titted girls there indeed!
Wicked Roger
07-26-12, 23:32
Sorry guys. I guess this post says a lot about both of us. And yes by your standards I am a newbie which is why I was hoping to learn from your experience. It does seem odd that someone would spend 20 mins doing research in order to shoot me down in flames when it would take only 1 min to answer the question.Why odd?
You are clearly lazy with no intention if spending a minute RTFF and clearly (based on our RTFF) of posting any information of use to this thread / board.
RTFF or go elsewhere would be my suggestion.
This is not flaming, this is common sense advice based on what I and others do. An example for you of how it should be done. Loso69 a few years ago PM / emailed me with his RTFF summary of Abu Dhabi. He had read back, summarised key points about bars etc and asked my opinion. It would have taken him 1-2 hrs to read and summarise his thoughts.
So you should do the same and as WC1 said, please add all the FRs and pics from your travels so you can earn the respect of others here
WestCoast1
07-27-12, 00:20
It does seem odd that someone would spend 20 mins doing research in order to shoot me down in flames when it would take only 1 min to answer the question.Not odd at all. The time spent (on purpose) was to show you we expect you to spend at least a few hours researching, then going there and posting your significant experiences, before asking questions on the open board. Feel free to PM some of us. What your post and previous background said, was,"Hey, I'm not quite a newb. Help me out here. Please ignore the fact that I've been around for years, only taking information, not giving back."
Sorry guys. I guess this post says a lot about both of us. And yes by your standards I am a newbie which is why I was hoping to learn from your experience. It does seem odd that someone would spend 20 mins doing research in order to shoot me down in flames when it would take only 1 min to answer the question.Are you nut? You are not asking for an update of the working hours of an MP, whether by. Nancy chance knows if girl XY still works there, information that can be given in 30" by someone who knows and that would be, objectively, hard to find by RYFF.
You are asking for a comprehensive resume as you are lazy. As simple as that. Whether you are a newbie or a 5000post old guy here, your expectations are non sense. A 5000 post old guy, going to a new place will not even dare to think asking what you asked. This is the fact. He'd duly RTFF and cut the story short. You are defending a weak and odd position, pissing off people with your attitude. Do what you want ad judge me as you like but I share the feeling of others: don't think your presence in ISG is much of a value for the community. To put in straight terms, you are of poor Value For Time for anyone here.
Sorry guys. I guess this post says a lot about both of us. And yes by your standards I am a newbie which is why I was hoping to learn from your experience. It does seem odd that someone would spend 20 mins doing research in order to shoot me down in flames when it would take only 1 min to answer the question.Are you nut? You are not asking for an update of the working hours of an MP, whether by chance anyone knows if girl XY still works there, information that can be given in 30" by someone who knows and that would be, objectively, hard to find by RYFF.
You are asking for a comprehensive resume as you are lazy. As simple as that. Whether you are a newbie or a 5000post old guy here, your expectations are non sense. A 5000 post old guy, going to a new place will not even dare to think asking what you asked. This is the fact. He'd duly RTFF and cut the story short. You are defending a weak and odd position, pissing off people with your attitude. Do what you want ad judge me as you like but I share the feeling of others: don't think your presence in ISG is much of a value for the community. To put in straight terms, you are of poor Value For Time for anyone here.
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Member #4698
07-27-12, 15:58
Vman, why are you getting so worked up? If you want to answer these lazy, its all about me, I haven't got the time to RTFF questions, be our guest. I will wager you a night at the Lewis Grand that in less than 6 months you will be fed up with it too.
Screaming Beaver
07-27-12, 16:24
i do have to apologize for some of the [CodeWord130] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130) inbreds here that have a difficult time answering a simple question.leave it to vealanstank to defend the indefensible. i wonder if he will actually make it to fields ave on his fantasy trip to ac next month since last time he said he was too busy with the dia girls, lol.
Screaming Beaver
07-27-12, 19:32
It is a sign of the apocolypse.When he's hanging out in the bars he keeps a hand cupped over his beer to prevent somebody from drugging him. When he travels to Colombia he wires money to himself every day via Xoom to prevent the security guys from stealing stuff from his in room safe. Vealanstank is (drum roll please) The Most Paranoid Man in the World!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=1302585&viewfull=1#post1302585
WestCoast1
07-27-12, 21:52
For me I don't have the time to waste to read their drivel so I will leave this forum. Bye.Well, there you have it. Confirming that he doesn't want to spend time here, he only wants to take information, but not give information. From the horse's mouth.
BS, big V's prices are right. I will PM you with some more pricing info.
WestCoast1
07-27-12, 22:00
Just sit back and watch the Angeles nazi's have a good time with my post and remember,Angeles nazi. That would be my job, thanks.
until you earn their approval and respect, you are forbidden from posting.Not so. Informative posts are always welcome. We love that. Had he even discussed butt-plugs and posted some pics (see below) , we would have fostered that. Folk who take-but-don't-give, well no thanks. Keep that stuff in he PM please.
it is priceless when they tell you to take "an hour or two" to RTFF. Really? An hour or two?Yes, really. If he had read for just 20 minutes, his questions would have been answered by Enizho, yes?
If you RTFF for an hour or two the only thing you will see is how they like to use butt plugs and vibrators or what the coffee tastes like at Starbucks.Not true. But those are all good topics of discussion in the filipines threads?
Reasonable minds can disagree.
WestCoast1
07-27-12, 23:07
Your key word is reasonable but it should also include respectful. When you have a new guy that has a simple question and you and the other Club 54 members tell him how much time to spend on the forum trying to find an answer, calling him lazy, telling him he needs to earn your respect, has to post on the forum and post pictures before he can ask a question, etc. Then that isn't reasonable at all and is a little bit pathetic. I just can't seem to understand why you all deem yourselves as experts and try to tell other people what they can and can't do. If that's your job then frankly, you suck at it. All it does is cause people to leave the forum and not pariticipate. If you don't want to answer a question then don't answer it. It's the sarcasm that everyone can do without. And to prove my point about Club 54, your whole response to me keeps saying "we" which are you and the other people on here that show no respect to anyone. Almost all of your conversations are so irrelevent that it clogs up the board with stupid shit and you should take your own advice and use the PM function. More people would RTFF if there wasn't so much crap on it from the "powers that be" that are personal conversations. You all use this forum like it's Yahoo I'm.I'll PM you, private is better.
This might be a very stupid question but I will shoot anyway.
On my first trip to Asia I will visit AC for 5-6 day stay. Now since there is so much danger towards foreigners here. So for you that have visited AC before would you say I should not wear brand clothes and my whach that might seem expensive to locals and just put something wearn of and cheap?
Just a thought that this might be not the best place to give locals clue you might have some money!
WestCoast1
07-28-12, 01:23
This might be a very stupid question but I will shoot anyway.
On my first trip to Asia I will visit AC for 5-6 day stay. Now since there is so much danger towards foreigners here. So for you that have visited AC before would you say I should not wear brand clothes and my whach that might seem expensive to locals and just put something wearn of and cheap?
Just a thought that this might be not the best place to give locals clue you might have some money!You will see quickly once you get there what the dress code is. Very casual. VERY.
Most gents are in non-descript clothing. Shorts, or if long pants denim. T-shirt mostly, or an occasional short-sleeve pullover. Flip-flops, non-descript tennis shoes. You rarely see any designer clothes. The place is hot and sticky, dress for it. The place is extremely informal. Mitt Romney's don't fit in.
Tomux, please give us a nice descriptive report sometime during or after your visit of your experiences there.
Capt Munch
07-28-12, 04:04
This might be a very stupid question but I will shoot anyway.
On my first trip to Asia I will visit AC for 5-6 day stay. Now since there is so much danger towards foreigners here. So for you that have visited AC before would you say I should not wear brand clothes and my whach that might seem expensive to locals and just put something wearn of and cheap?
Just a thought that this might be not the best place to give locals clue you might have some money!As others will likely also report. You want to be aware of your surroundings. Lots of tourists visit Angeles every year. Most do not have problems. Some do.
Late at night on the back streets of Angeles, being drunk and having a pocketful of cash is likely to be a recipe for disaster. Regardless of when you go out, daytime / nighttime, it is not a good idea to wave around loads of cash just to try to impress the locals. They will already guess that you have money.
Be discrete even when using the moneychangers. I wouldn't change large amounts and then walk back to my hotel.
There are lots of things to be aware of. And I am NOT an expert. There are plenty of stories of lost cell phones / stolen cell phones, pickpockets and worse. I know of several filipinas that at various times have managed to have cell phones stolen.
I was walking down the street (Don Juico Avenue) which main thoroughfare in broad daylight when a pair of motorcycle thieves crossed over from the other side of the street and from behind me, attempted to take my gold necklace off my neck in a driveby. Needless to say, I do NOT wear that in Angeles anymore. I do still have it, just don't wear it there. These guys spotted it sometime after I left breakfast and probably followed me.
Certainly, there are a number of pickpockets that thrive on tourists that ride the jeepneys and they will get cash / wallets / cell phones / etc. Just know that there is a high potential for that activity and put your wallet in your front pockets or secure it somewhere else. I have probably beeen fortunate that hasn't happened to me and I do ride jeepneys on occasion. I have had friends that have lost wallets and cell phones on the jeepneys.
Sporting expensive jewelry and / or watches will likely get you noticed and not in a good way. I would NOT even recommend that you buy a BOLEX (fake Rolex) which are for sale by the street vendors. They don't work and chances are you will overpay (I. E anything over $10 is too much)
One of my last trips, my young lady for the evening decided to check to see how much money was in my pocket (while I was in the shower ). She didn't put the shorts back the way she found them and I noticed right away. I then confronted her and checked her purse for the missing money. It was there. The place I was staying did not have in room safes but if you plan to stay at a hotel that does have one, it is a good idea to use it. That is the only time (I think) that ever happened to me.
Also, there are enough stories about filipinos coming to aid of fellow filipinos if a fight erupts. I always figure these guys are in better shape than I am and may know way more martial arts / street fighting than I will ever know. It seems that filipinos have a passion for firearms and there are a great number around. There is a reason why all the banks / armored cars / various cash business have so many guards armed with shotguns standing by to keep the money where it belongs.
Two simple rules :
1. Use common sense.
2. Keep a low profile.
I hope it is not as dire as you are indicating. I will be there next month. (it isn't BTW) I was laso there in February for a brief visit. Other than the ridiculous barfines on Fields. It seemed like SNAFU and of course enjoyable.
In keeping with the current topics on this board. RTFF.
Just my piso (post # 10?) and maybe almost time to buy a paid membership
Fastpiston
07-28-12, 07:43
As others will likely also report. You want to be aware of your surroundings. Lots of tourists visit Angeles every year. Most do not have problems. Some do.
Late at night on the back streets of Angeles, being drunk and having a pocketful of cash is likely to be a recipe for disaster. Regardless of when you go out, daytime / nighttime, it is not a good idea to wave around loads of cash just to try to impress the locals. They will already guess that you have money.
Be discrete even when using the moneychangers. I wouldn't change large amounts and then walk back to my hotel.
There are lots of things to be aware of. And I am NOT an expert. There are plenty of stories of lost cell phones / stolen cell phones, pickpockets and worse. I know of several filipinas that at various times have managed to have cell phones stolen.
I was walking down the street (Don Juico Avenue) which main thoroughfare in broad daylight when a pair of motorcycle thieves crossed over from the other side of the street and from behind me, attempted to take my gold necklace off my neck in a driveby. Needless to say, I do NOT wear that in Angeles anymore. I do still have it, just don't wear it there. These guys spotted it sometime after I left breakfast and probably followed me.
Certainly, there are a number of pickpockets that thrive on tourists that ride the jeepneys and they will get cash / wallets / cell phones / etc. Just know that there is a high potential for that activity and put your wallet in your front pockets or secure it somewhere else. I have probably beeen fortunate that hasn't happened to me and I do ride jeepneys on occasion. I have had friends that have lost wallets and cell phones on the jeepneys.
Sporting expensive jewelry and / or watches will likely get you noticed and not in a good way. I would NOT even recommend that you buy a BOLEX (fake Rolex) which are for sale by the street vendors. They don't work and chances are you will overpay (I. E anything over $10 is too much)
One of my last trips, my young lady for the evening decided to check to see how much money was in my pocket (while I was in the shower ). She didn't put the shorts back the way she found them and I noticed right away. I then confronted her and checked her purse for the missing money. It was there. The place I was staying did not have in room safes but if you plan to stay at a hotel that does have one, it is a good idea to use it. That is the only time (I think) that ever happened to me.
Also, there are enough stories about filipinos coming to aid of fellow filipinos if a fight erupts. I always figure these guys are in better shape than I am and may know way more martial arts / street fighting than I will ever know. It seems that filipinos have a passion for firearms and there are a great number around. There is a reason why all the banks / armored cars / various cash business have so many guards armed with shotguns standing by to keep the money where it belongs.
Two simple rules :
1. Use common sense.
2. Keep a low profile.
I hope it is not as dire as you are indicating. I will be there next month. (it isn't BTW) I was laso there in February for a brief visit. Other than the ridiculous barfines on Fields. It seemed like SNAFU and of course enjoyable.
In keeping with the current topics on this board. RTFF.
Just my piso (post # 10?) and maybe almost time to buy a paid membershipI would like to add a few additional points:
1) Be deaf and dumb when strangers approach you in the street being friendly. They inevitably want to get familiar with your money, not you. Never accept food / sweets from strangers. They can be drugged.
2) Do not listen to sob stories, some may be true, most are designed to draw money.
3) Lending quickly turns into a non-refundable 'gift'.
4) Cover your money when you go to money changers.
5) Use the hotel safe, but keep track of what is there. Hotel staff have keys also.
6) Dress down. Be inconspicious, never attract attention with jewelry, watches, cameras.
7) Remember that the reason young girls want older often unattractive men is MONEY and SECURITY. Strategize to benefit accordingly.
8) Do not invest in a 'business', the odds are stacked against you.
9) Be extremely careful when travelling late at night.
10) Most of the above apply to Filipinos just as they do to foreigners. So many Filipinos get scammed, experience holdups, robbed in jeepneys, pickpocketed.
WestCoast1
07-28-12, 23:38
A few maps for reference.
The google map, some marked locations. Apology if I got any of the restos or bars incorrect. They are close. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong. A few worthwhile notes:
1. Field's Avenue runs (west-east) across the top of the picture (note the split, or fork in the road, and note the N / S/E / W legend upper-right). If you walk along Fields, from west to east, in this image, you will note a lot of massage / spa / phone businesses. Take the split to your left, and there are a bunch of stalls, laundries, and karaoke places. Take the split to the right, and you stay on Field's Avenue, with Atlantis on your right, followed by Kokomo's. Kokomo's is at the corner of Fields Avenue and Santos Street.
2. Moving down Santos, to the south, Kokomo's on the left, lots of trykes on the right. Tequila Reef mexican resto on your right, and ST bar WOW on your left. WOW is a very tiny place, barely enough room for 2 customers to stand / sit. 700 gets you 2 hours (really 3) in your room, or the back room there where one of the girls is usually asleep. The mamas are very nice, never pushy. Have known one of them for several years. I didn't know she was watching me, I was walking across the street, she hollered my name. I went to chat her. Both of my long-time favs are gone now. One went overseas with her bf, the other has a business in town. Disappointing, as I have posted their pics here many times, both together, separately, and with other girls (they run the gammut from mild to wild, girlie mood depending). The mama said she would txt the second girl and give her my number to see if she wanted to get together. Nice. I moved on up the street to check the other talent.
3. Continuing south down Santos, across the street from WOW are more ST bars, and on the left is the International Resto, formerly Shano's Irish Pub. Great place to knock down chow and play pool in your down time. Large, clean, place.
4. Continuing down Santos, Wild Orchid hotel on the left, more ST blow bars on the right. Every bar on Santos quoted similar prices: 700-750 ST / 1400-1500 LT. However, every girl and every mama I quized about times were gladly extending the times. Two hours became three, and LT became much later. For instance, I quized one mama about LT with a girl, it was about sundown, and she just said "You bring back tomorrow." I didn't push it and ask what time exactly in that bar, but that's easily 12 hours, and possibly much later in the morning, say noon, closer to 18.
5. Back to the picture. Turning west on Real street, at the corner of Santos / Real, at Tequila Reef resto on your left, then are the muslim shopping stalls to your left, and several bars on your right. Crystal Palace, Agasaya, and Body Shop. BS quoted 1800 for barfine. Nobody in any place in AC objected to the word 'barfine', and the mamas bantered the term also. I didn't hear anyone mention "EWR" in AC.
6. Continuing along Real, you will 'T' into Raymond street. Across the street is a juice bar (Strawberry Fields, which I think also has a girlie bar) , with resto next door. Its next door to Las Vegas girlie bar. Turn right at this T onto Raymond, walk one block to Fields. Phillies open-air resto (similar to Kokomo's) is on the corner to your left. Good breakfast for p100, including coffee refill.
7. If U-turn left at that 'T', walk a block or so, you will see several bars on your right (4 of them I think, together, next door to each other). They almost appear to be one bar, not 4. Aby Lyn, Jumpin' Jack Flash (see pic). I sat inside Aby Lyn, hadn't even ordered a drink. My phone buzzed. I checked the txt message, and was about to put the phone away, when several girls started posing. 'You take our pic. ' Well, if you insist, ladies. Snap. See pic. I asked the barfine price: 700 2 hours. 1200 LT. The very last bar, on the right, no kidding is filled with older fat gals, all of them appear late 30's or 40's. Hard to believe anyone would take them. The other three bars were filled with girls, sometimes 30 or so gals sitting around between the other three. Quite a range in the looks department, although all girls appeared < 25.
A pregnant gal had jumped in my lap, right away hinting at the barfine. It was tempting. 'You fuck my pussy my ass I swallow you cum. ' Pictures ok? 'Yes I do all. ' When are you due for the baby? 'This week. I go home soon. ' I came back the next day for her and another gal for a 3-some, but they said the girl got on the bus that morning for Tarlac, to go have her baby. Damn, just missed. My fault.
I spent a week in AC, and pulled my girls from almost exclusively the ST bars on Raymond / Santos Streets. I had a province girl chatmate come in. I got a gal from Body Shop. I had a mamasan on her night off. I pulled a LOT of these ST gals, and took several for LT, as the Raymond street mamas were willing to let me keep the girls up to 24 hours, for 1200. They seemed to have no issue. 'You keep. Any you like. OK? '
I got into an argument with a mama in the first bar (Aby, I think) one night. She pushed two cuties in my lap, and she kept telling me to take them. I had some ice tea. I couldn't decide: take them now, or go eat dinner now and come back later for them? One was average-pretty, the other was hot. When I finished my tea, hottie had had her hand in my pants and was stroking Johnson, so I told the mama I would take them ST. I handed her 2000, she handed me back 600 for change. I stepped into the CR. When I came out, only one of the girls (hottie) was standing there, ready to go. The mama said,"Other guy barfine your other girl just now." Huh? Where did they go?"Upstairs she giving blowjob. He regular customer. She back here soon. Ten minutes. Just sit wait and you take both girls." Yuck! Give me my money back, mama. She asked me again to wait."That guy always cum quick. Wait." She was serious. No thanks. So she got in the money drawer and handed me 700. No, mama, I don't like what you did. I'm not taking either gal. She looked wounded, then handed me the other 700. I told her that was bad business."But he's regular customer." Me too, mama, already I had taken your girls, and paid for these."Please. Just you wait few minutes. She come soon." The other gal who was still standing there, was urging me to wait also. I told her that what the mama did was bad business, and just cost her a barfine. Sure as filipine rain, just as I was walking out, the girl came out from the back with some older guy (easily, he is 70). They could not have been in the back 6 whole minutes. I went over to WOW on Santos and grabbed a girl, who txt'the a friend, who came for a 3-some.
8. On all of Fields avenue you see in the picture, there are plenty of girlie bars. Quoted barfines range from a low of 1800, to 3000, depending on the bar (the expensive bars have tiers, say low-end girls at 2000, then high end hotties at 3000). All barfines are LT, except the ST bars mentioned before on Raymond/Santos.
9. Walking west on Fields from Philies resto one block to Constain street, and turn left. There are several bars down this street on the left side, including Butterfly bar. All of these bars quoted me 1500 for the barfine. At least one of these bars has a pool table, but I can’t remember which one.
I did enjoy spending the night with Sandra in the lap of luxury of the ABC Hotel, but I had to throw her out in the morning on account of the fact that I had to meet my tennis instructor, Billie, at 5:30 am. Unfortunately, I got there at 6 pm and the courts were occupied, rendering it necessary for me to wait an hour. Once we got on the courts I played a lot better than I did in yesterday as I was adversely affected by the scorching heat. While at the courts I actually met a pinay who use to live in Berkley, California. He had his son and daughter with him, the daughter of whom played tennis. The stifling April heat was definitely the decisive factor in throwing off my concentration. It was still quite cool in New York in April and I simply could not acclimate myself to the heat of the Philippines in a mere ten days. Once I got done with an hour of tennis I headed to the boxing gym. The ABC Hotel, ever so accommodating, sent a driver to shuttle me from the tennis court to the boxing gym. The driver was in his mid-fifties and expatiated on how the economy of Angeles City was stimulated primarily by the free zone at Clark. I don't know how accurate that statement was.
The boxing gym was in the garage of Charlie Sanchez, of whom is a friend of Manny Pacquiao. The Pacman use to train in Angeles before he became world renown. His garage was a veritable cauldron, probably around 105 degrees and dilapidated to boot. How odd it was that I had gone from such divine concupiscent pleasure at the ABC Hotel just a mere few hours ago to the brutal gladiatorial regimen of boxing training in a gym in the slums of Angeles City. One can't have his physicality compromised by luxury. The luxury was only to accomodate the women. Darius the Great said that soft lands breed soft men.
The punch combinations on the pads was the hardest part of the training on account of the fact that I didn't have the punch combinations etched into my synapses yet and he did not give me the time to establish those synaptic connections before having me learn a new punching combination. Regardless, I felt much better today on account of the fact that I did not have the huge breakfast at the ABC buffet like I did yesterday. I went over twenty hours without food before yesterday morning's breakfast because I left Puerto Galera at 2 pm and immediately upon my arrival in Angeles City at 7 pm I headed out to the bars without bothering to stop and eat and then I spent the entire night at the bars and having sex at my hotel room without having so much as a scrap of vittles. Since I ate a light breakfast this morning I was much sharper in the boxing gym.I shouldn't respond like this as we usually embrace reports about females. But finally a report from a female (part of the anatomy). What a ****!
WestCoast1
07-29-12, 01:28
moving west along fields. see pic. starting with skytrax disco. i think i paid a cover charge with my date. we were the only ones there at first, apparently early, i think about 10pm. a bit later 3 hotties came in, dressed very well, sat in the booth next to us. one at a time, they would stare at me, completely ignoring my date. like i was going to leave my date, walk over to them, and offer to leave with one of them. we left shortly thereafter (its really loud in there). moving west on fields, see alaska bar. p1800 barfine. american owner. great guy. he's also the dj. he will sit and chat anyone. they threw a modestly wild party in there one night. a contingient of about 10 girls on the dance stage, with 2 in the wings. about every song, one girl would shuffle off the stage, and one in the wings would shuffle on. different than the usual half on / half off switch-a-roo. the owner would sit and chat with me about anything. he gave me a rundown of the girls."see that one. not so pretty. but loves sex. lots of guys who take her later tell me she's the longest hardest fuck they ever had. see that one? the long hair? great blowjob. that one's cherry she won't do anything." low-key, comfortable place.
i think honeypot is on this block. also coyote ugly, closed down now for some time. i heard several scuttlebutts, including **** girls, and that the owners are in jail. anyone else heard? a block further west is margarita station, a resto / bar. good atmosphere for westerners, large menu. several pool tables. careful, there are several asian girls who hang by the pool tables and play a lot of pool. they are not necessarily with anyone, they play pool very well. anyone know if they are sharks paid by the establishment? (g-point in malate also utilizes sharks on and off).
in this area is also a 7-11. past margarita is the start of the less expensive bars, including pony tails. i think the waitress quoted p1200 for barfine. nice place, pool tables in the back. food also good in pt. also just past margarita station is chowking. near the 7-11 is a grocery store (whats the name?). a block or two west of margarita you start getting to hotels such as abc and devera.
Arrived for my first time trip to AC (been other parts of the PI though) from elsewhere in Asia (see Japan reports) on an early ass flight. Hot. Tired. Sweaty. Wanted nothing more than to find a nice cutie and have some fun, get something to eat, etc. But I got to ask, where the hell is the daytime action? Walked up and down Fields this morning and again today. Nothing really in the way of girls. Lot's of closed shops, many with shirtless Pinoys washing the remnants of last nights parties into the open sewer they call "Walking Street".
Am I missing something? Perhaps I am just an idiot.
Could any old hands point in the right direction of a place to pull some ST or LT during the day? I don't really have to wait until the nighttime do I?
Arrived for my first time trip to AC (been other parts of the PI though) from elsewhere in Asia (see Japan reports) on an early ass flight. Hot. Tired. Sweaty. Wanted nothing more than to find a nice cutie and have some fun, get something to eat, etc. But I got to ask, where the hell is the daytime action? Walked up and down Fields this morning and again today. Nothing really in the way of girls. Lot's of closed shops, many with shirtless Pinoys washing the remnants of last nights parties into the open sewer they call "Walking Street".
Am I missing something? Perhaps I am just an idiot.
Could any old hands point in the right direction of a place to pull some ST or LT during the day? I don't really have to wait until the nighttime do I?I got there mid afternoon. Went to the Santos street. Look / ask where Black Pearl is. There's always something available down there. Lower quality than the big gogos but still fun and price is cheap. Two girls for 1500 in my car. If you are at Pacific breeze its easily accessible.
Rtf a bit if you aren't sure. And I mean read the forum with no disrespect intended. Its just others will tell you the same. H
ps. Pm me if you need more help dude
WestCoast1
07-29-12, 06:32
Arrived for my first time trip to AC (been other parts of the PI though) from elsewhere in Asia (see Japan reports) on an early ass flight. Hot. Tired. Sweaty. Wanted nothing more than to find a nice cutie and have some fun, get something to eat, etc. But I got to ask, where the hell is the daytime action? Walked up and down Fields this morning and again today. Nothing really in the way of girls. Lot's of closed shops, many with shirtless Pinoys washing the remnants of last nights parties into the open sewer they call "Walking Street".
Am I missing something? Perhaps I am just an idiot.
Could any old hands point in the right direction of a place to pull some ST or LT during the day? I don't really have to wait until the nighttime do I?Find Phillies restaurant on Fields, corner Raymond Street (its right across the street on Fields from the Police substation). Turn on Raymond and walk to the end of the street (about 2 blocks). The four / five ST bars in today's post on the right side of the street, are 24-hour bars. Aby Lyn, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Prince of Wales, and Lovely Paradise (there might be a fifth). I pulled girls every hour of the day from these places, including 7am. ST=p700, good for 2-3 hours in your room.
I think I mentioned I took a girl from Aby Lyn one day in the early afternoon, initially for a ST. But when the mama said I could keep her until the next day for 1200, I did. We had coffee at Phillies around 10am the next morning. I figured she'd want me to walk her up the street to her bar. I asked her if she wanted to go there, or go to the mall with me. She said she needed to look for a phone case, so she came with me (still dressed in the slutty form-fitting bar mini-dress). Just across the street on Fields in one of the stall shops, she found a case she wanted for her phone. It was p200, so I paid for it for her. Then I figured she'd want to head back, the bar was just two blocks away. Nope. Off we went to find some stuff for me in the department store, window shopped, then ate. Walked back towards my hotel (near her bar) about noon. She grabbed my hand when I turned on Raymond, and dragged me back onto fields, so we went the long way to my hotel (about a block longer). I'm guessing she did not want the mamasan to see her. In the room she was just playing with her makeup, so about 1pm I took her back. A real cutie, but her goal in life between sessions seemed to be applying and removing makeup. Mrs. Robinson's is the fifth bar I think.
There are other 24-hour bars also. Gents?
WestCoast1
07-29-12, 06:42
A few pics of the Santos Street bars. I took girls from all of these places, at times two girls at a time. Other times I would ask a girl quietly in the bar (or else in my room after a session) if she had a friend who is not a bargirl who might be interested in 3-somes, and there was success twice. These bars were just like the Raymond street bars. 700 or 750, and nobody was in a rush to get a girl back (not even the girls were concerned with time). WOW bar is between Kokomo's and The International resto. The other bars are across the street from The International. WOW is not 24 hours, but I think the other two bars are.
A few maps for reference.
The google map, some marked locations. Apology if I got any of the restos or bars incorrect. They are close. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong. A few worthwhile notes:Appreciate the report. The SWT in the red dress looks really cute. Was she the one with child?
Slim
Hi WC and other AC mongers,
Have you seen any busty girls there recently? Slim and stacked preferred. Any sightings / info appreciated. I'll be there in October.
A few pics of the Santos Street bars. I took girls from all of these places, at times two girls at a time. Other times I would ask a girl quietly in the bar (or else in my room after a session) if she had a friend who is not a bargirl who might be interested in 3-somes, and there was success twice. These bars were just like the Raymond street bars. 700 or 750, and nobody was in a rush to get a girl back (not even the girls were concerned with time). WOW bar is between Kokomo's and The International resto. The other bars are across the street from The International. WOW is not 24 hours, but I think the other two bars are.
WestCoast1
07-29-12, 16:37
Appreciate the report. The SWT in the red dress looks really cute. Was she the one with child?
SlimThe girl in the red dress is a hottie, but not pregnant. Cute face. I had a similar incident with her as I did with the other girl. The red dress incident occurred first on a previous day. I was set to take one girl who was sitting practically in my lap. I mentioned a second gal, and my girl pointed to the red dress. I said yes, she would do just fine for the 3-some, and we would go when I finished my beer (two swigs away). As I got up to pay for both girls to the mama, with both girls ready to go, pulling 1400 out of my wallet at the bar, some older gent walks in. The red dress is standing right next to me, ready to go. The older gent doesn't say a word. The red dress grabs his hand and walks in the back with him. WTF? The mama said,"He barfine her earlier." That was it, off she went. If I had skipped the swigs, I would have walked out with the two girls, and he would have had to wait until I brought her back. By sheer luck, he got there in the nick of time.
I had no idea that in the ST bars, that gents barfined girls in advance, left the bar, and just came back whenever they wanted to see if the girl was still there. The bar had no desire to keep her from barfining in between (just the opposite I'd guess). Going further, some girls get a string of guys. I'd sit in these bars early afternoon for 2 hours sometimes, sipping bottled water or tea, and watch the same girl go in the back with 4 different guys, all in 75 minutes. Several times I saw girls go in the back with a guy, and come back out in just 6 or 7 minutes. The guy would leave, the girl would sit and chat her friends like nothing happened. Five minutes later some guy would walk in, point to the same gal, pay the money, and take her upstairs. Ten minutes later they are back down. The girls would tell me about this guy or that guy being a regular, and he had preference for this girl or that girl. I ended up taking just the one girl.
Back to the pregnant girl. I tiny wisp of a thing. Skinny, about 19, looked like she had a bowling ball hanging under her boobs. Seen from behind, you would not know she was pregnant. I put my hand under her shirt on her tummy (hard as a rock) and felt the baby kick. I should have taken her just for the pics.
John Traveller
07-29-12, 19:08
9. Walking west on Fields from Philies resto one block to Constain street, and turn left. There are several bars down this street on the left side, including Butterfly bar. All of these bars quoted me 1500 for the barfine. At least one of these bars has a pool table, but I can’t remember which one.
It's Butterfly that has the pool table, a good place, BTW. Bf was 1200 last year, but most of the girls are on the fat side. Some friendly regular customers hang out in this bar. If I remember correctly they play rock music at this place.
You guys in Ac. Are you getting hit with typhoon rains?
Yea, I saw that schools are closed today because of it. Won't hamper me though.
Thanks for the tips from those who gave them. Ended up pulling a girl from Devil's early in the evening. Ate some food than got three pops in before bed. TBH, she seemed a little shocked that I went for the third. Is there a standard operating procedure here? I wanted to get my money's worth! She was into all three sessions once they started but I did sense a little hesitation before starting the third like I said. Did one more early in the morning. She hung around and watched some TV with me, then headed out. All in all a good time.
One problem I have in these bar style places, which I'm not really used to (usually tend towards different style places in other countries) , is how to identify what kind of tits the girls are working with in the bars. Of course many look good on stage, but when you get them home, the tits have some sag. Like my girl last night. Young and sexy, but still, prefer to have perky tits with stand up nipples. Any hints?
One more question that I didn't find an answer to by RTF, what's the deal with the massage places on Fields? Average prices? Services? Some hot young girls in the windows of these places, but wearing clinical uniforms. Is this legit massage only?
Finally, what about the waitresses at kokomos? The ones wearing the pink uniforms. Some of them are fucking hot. Available for take out?
Thanks for anyone who can help! Already ready back on the forum quite a ways, but I'll do so more reading now.
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 02:34
I read that AC is a punting nivarna but I also have an opportunity of a byo gal from Cebu. She's cute, good looking and loyal.
I've also got a realistic budget and also realistic expectations of actually doing some work while I'm in town. Can you guys help me gather my thoughts on this.
Advantages of BYO.
Friendly and no need to go out looking for a gal each night.
No need to deal with runners, bar fines etc.
Would cost an airfare from CEB-Angeles-CEB. P4, 000.
Extra daily allowance for her of P1, 000 to cover her expenses.
So for a week, would cost P11, 000 to have a honey join me.
Disadvantages of BYO.
She's always there. As soon as I get home from stress work, she wants to play, go out, be friendly.
I'm a little introverted and do enjoy some privacy.
What does she do all day?
Can't get out and experience other Angeles delights.
Advantages of JIT. Just in Time. Ie bargirls, freelancers.
Fits my timetable.
Fits my energy / interest requirements if I have to work long / late etc.
Only pay when needed.
Disadvantages of JIT.
Have to constantly be selecting a new girl or type.
Deal with occasional runner / fruitcake.
Many of the honeys don't come out to late and I might need to go early to accommodate early work starts.
Daily cost of P2, 000-3, 000.
Your experiences are appreciated.
BD
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 02:36
She was into all three sessions once they started but I did sense a little hesitation before starting the third like I said. Did one more early in the morning. She hung around and watched some TV with me, then headed out. All in all a good time.In my experience, if they are hanging around, usually means they are comfortable with the arrangement.
Tally Wacker
07-30-12, 03:23
I'm not much of a bar guy and I'm sure there are others who might know better but can't you just ask to see their tits in the bar? Every bar I have been in I've been able to fondle and see the girls tits, put a hand in the pants and finger their pussy and they usually have their hands on my cock the whole time they are sitting with me. I guess you just have to ask and be forward with them.
One problem I have in these bar style places, which I'm not really used to (usually tend towards different style places in other countries) , is how to identify what kind of tits the girls are working with in the bars. Of course many look good on stage, but when you get them home, the tits have some sag. Like my girl last night. Young and sexy, but still, prefer to have perky tits with stand up nipples. Any hints?
WestCoast1
07-30-12, 05:03
Thanks for the tips from those who gave them. Ended up pulling a girl from Devil's early in the evening. Ate some food than got three pops in before bed. TBH, she seemed a little shocked that I went for the third. Is there a standard operating procedure here? I wanted to get my money's worth! She was into all three sessions once they started but I did sense a little hesitation before starting the third like I said. Did one more early in the morning. She hung around and watched some TV with me, then headed out. All in all a good time.She is yours for the time period specified. In a ST bar, its usually 2 hours, and either 4 or 8 for their LT. In the past, they stuck to that: you had to have her back in the bar in two hours. However, when I was there a few weeks ago, there was some blurring of that. Mama's and girls were telling me they could stay for 3 hours instead of two. For LT they were giving me this wild stuff about bringing her back tomorrow at lunch (24 hours). Ask the mama before you take her from the bar. If she says 3 hours, then the girl is yours for the timeframe. However, many girls will also start to dress after your first pop. Just tell her to get showered and come back to bed with you.
One problem I have in these bar style places, which I'm not really used to (usually tend towards different style places in other countries) , is how to identify what kind of tits the girls are working with in the bars. Of course many look good on stage, but when you get them home, the tits have some sag. Like my girl last night. Young and sexy, but still, prefer to have perky tits with stand up nipples. Any hints?They sag from children. Don't ask in the bar if she has kids. Ask how many she has. Zero is best.
One more question that I didn't find an answer to by RTF, what's the deal with the massage places on Fields? Average prices? Services? Some hot young girls in the windows of these places, but wearing clinical uniforms. Is this legit massage only?I've never been offered any extras in these places. 400-500 is the going price (the girls typically get 150).
Finally, what about the waitresses at kokomos? The ones wearing the pink uniforms. Some of them are fucking hot. Available for take out?I don't think so. Same for Phillies. They can be pretty, and they are sweet. Don't push your luck in these places, there are so many other legit places to get the snatch. If you find you must, drop her your phone number (like you'd be the first guy to do that there).
Thanks a lot for the info bro. Very helpful!
She is yours for the time period specified. In a ST bar, its usually 2 hours, and either 4 or 8 for their LT. In the past, they stuck to that: you had to have her back in the bar in two hours. However, when I was there a few weeks ago, there was some blurring of that. Mama's and girls were telling me they could stay for 3 hours instead of two. For LT they were giving me this wild stuff about bringing her back tomorrow at lunch (24 hours). Ask the mama before you take her from the bar. If she says 3 hours, then the girl is yours for the timeframe. However, many girls will also start to dress after your first pop. Just tell her to get showered and come back to bed with you.I'm going to have to try that, then try to get used it. I usually just talk to the girls and never the mamasan. It'll be a bit odd for me, but I'm sure I'll get over it. In fact, I don't think I even noticed who the mamasan even was at the places I went to last night. I guess I'll just have to ask a waitress to point me in her direction tonight.
Thanks again man, a lot of great info in your posts and replies!
I had no idea that in the ST bars, that gents barfined girls in advance, left the bar, and just came back whenever they wanted to see if the girl was still there.I keep trying to figure out what the point of this is, but for the life of me, I can't come up with anything. If it doesn't prevent her from being barfined by anyone else, what exactly would be the point of barfining her early then coming back later? Why not jut barfine her later, when you come back?
I'm not much of a bar guy and I'm sure there are others who might know better but can't you just ask to see their tits in the bar? Every bar I have been in I've been able to fondle and see the girls tits, put a hand in the pants and finger their pussy and they usually have their hands on my cock the whole time they are sitting with me. I guess you just have to ask and be forward with them.So if you don't get girls from bars, where do you go? I'm not much of a bar guy either, never liked strip clubs and I don't even drink (I prefer privacy) , but I don't know where else to pick them up!
I've had a lot of sex in my life, a lot of freaky stuff, a lot of 2 or 3 couple swinging scenes, many women, but never been into the wide open scenes. No guilt or shame, it's just not comfortable for me when there are a lot of other guys and girls around.
I guess I will have to be more forward and get over my agoraphobia if I want to enjoy my few days here, eh?
So if you don't get girls from bars, where do you go? I'm not much of a bar guy either, never liked strip clubs and I don't even drink (I prefer privacy) , but I don't know where else to pick them up!
I've had a lot of sex in my life, a lot of freaky stuff, a lot of 2 or 3 couple swinging scenes, many women, but never been into the wide open scenes. No guilt or shame, it's just not comfortable for me when there are a lot of other guys and girls around.
I guess I will have to be more forward and get over my agoraphobia if I want to enjoy my few days here, eh?If you are not a bar guy then WTF are you doing in AC? I really don't understand people that go to AC and search for something other then bar girls. Phils has so many nicer better, cheaper places to explore where you can get girls from the internet, discos, malls, hotels. To me chasing non bar pussy in AC is crazy. Same cost or there about considering how cheap AC bars are, less time wasting and far better chance of getting a good experience then hoping your DIA or mall pick up will work for you. Sure at the bar there is no guarantee either but you have FAR FAR FAR better odds then picking up at SM mall in AC. If you think that a local girl in AC is interested in you LOL you really don't understand how things work in AC. They all know WHY you are in AC. They are not that stupid. Even if you have a legit reason they would still rather avoid you because everyone else too would assume you are a sex tourist. In AC just go for the bar girls. Pure and simple, don't over complicate it. Those that think they are getting something else then a bar girl in one form or another are just kidding themselves. I know there are exceptions, sure you can get a girl to come visit from another province, manila or wherever but after you account for the costs, wasting of time, limits that she may impose on you then whats the point? AC is meant to be a bar town and enjoy it as bar town. I really don't understand why would you want to turn your trip there into something else.
There are plenty of posts how you can get non bar girls in phils. Its easy. If you are willing to go down those paths then stay in Manila, Cebu, Boracay and at least enjoy yourself in a much better environment still surrounded by beautiful girls. Its not hard you just need to give it a go. Make sure that you have more then few days though as it may take 2-3 days for you to set up. AC you need 5 minutes or less just point and shoot.
I keep trying to figure out what the point of this is, but for the life of me, I can't come up with anything. If it doesn't prevent her from being barfined by anyone else, what exactly would be the point of barfining her early then coming back later? Why not jut barfine her later, when you come back?She may barfine LT with some else and you miss out. Usually it DOES prevent her from barfining if you want her LT but if its just a ST barfine then she is free to barfine but needs to be ready at agreed time. I too see no point in booking ST girls but I know guys that get hanged up on a girl that has great BJ skills and want to go drink get a BJ then get a LT barfine elsewhere. For them it makes no difference I guess.
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 08:38
There are plenty of posts how you can get non bar girls in phils. Its easy. If you are willing to go down those paths then stay in Manila, Cebu, Boracay and at least enjoy yourself in a much better environment still surrounded by beautiful girls. Its not hard you just need to give it a go. Make sure that you have more then few days though as it may take 2-3 days for you to set up. AC you need 5 minutes or less just point and shoot.Thanks McDon. You've gone some way to solving my earlier quandary that I posted. I will be in AC for legit reasons but even bringing a gal in, whom doesn't consider herself, nor is she a sex worker, she is going to be tarred with that brush being with a long nose in AC. My intention is to finesse why stay as far as possible.
I read that AC is a punting nivarna but I also have an opportunity of a byo gal from Cebu. She's cute, good looking and loyal.
I've also got a realistic budget and also realistic expectations of actually doing some work while I'm in town. Can you guys help me gather my thoughts on this.
Advantages of BYO.
Friendly and no need to go out looking for a gal each night.
No need to deal with runners, bar fines etc.
Would cost an airfare from CEB-Angeles-CEB. P4, 000.
Extra daily allowance for her of P1, 000 to cover her expenses.
So for a week, would cost P11, 000 to have a honey join me.
Disadvantages of BYO.
She's always there. As soon as I get home from stress work, she wants to play, go out, be friendly.
I'm a little introverted and do enjoy some privacy.
What does she do all day?
Can't get out and experience other Angeles delights.
Advantages of JIT. Just in Time. Ie bargirls, freelancers.
Fits my timetable.
Fits my energy / interest requirements if I have to work long / late etc.
Only pay when needed.
Disadvantages of JIT.
Have to constantly be selecting a new girl or type.
Deal with occasional runner / fruitcake.
Many of the honeys don't come out to late and I might need to go early to accommodate early work starts.
Daily cost of P2, 000-3, 000.
Your experiences are appreciated.
BDLOL you are seriously thinking of BYO in AC? No offense but unless you have a bi supermodel type then forget it.
Go to AC and experience AC for what it is. If you want to keep a girl for few days you can do that there too. Depends on your budget, you taste and negotiating skills you can find 2-3 day gf experience in AC for about 1000-1500 a day quite easily and thats with very little knowledge and negotiations, regulars will probably do it for half that. Also you can vary your mongering experience there according to your needs. If all you have is few hours then BF short time from santos for 700 peso. Want a cheap GF experience then go to perimeter Road. Have time and want someone for 2-3 days for cheap look up DIA they are bar girls too but you can find someone that may agree to do it under the right circumstances skipping the barfine, taking time off work and directly charging you say 800 or 1000p a day. I have 2 bi girls in AC that I do that on regular basis with, both take time of work and I normally give them 2000p each for 3 days. In those 3 days I probably spend another 2-3000p on each of them on other things but thats my choice, I can tighten up my budget and I wont hear them complaining (have done it once in the past) but I am there to enjoy myself so I spend whatever I feel its appropriate, after all you only live once.
Bringing someone from elsewhere in AC while you are busy can also bring problems that you may not have anticipated. Once I had a very hot manila girl offer ST by the pool in the hotel while her boyfriend was at work. All she wanted was 500p for few hours while her boyfriend was away. Keep in mind that filipinas are very adjustable once she works out why most man are in AC and that they are all p4p types she may turn into an entrepreneur before you know it. Even if she is not like that beside watching tv what else is she going to do? Budget at least 1000p extra on shopping / entertainment. Add to that at least 1-2000 on food unless you intend to cook yourself LOL. All up you are at around 15000p for the week which is what you will spend if you bf one different LT each night.
Like I said unless you have something that is really really special bringing a chick in AC is just not worth it.
Why am I here? Bucket list, wanted to see the place, short and cheap flight from Japan, easy access to sex.
I didn't say I am adverse to P4P, I'm just not really into bars. For me, bars are not fun places, in the Philippines or anywhere else. I don't want to sit in some dark dungeon breathing in cigarette smoke (even if there are pretty girls in bikinis or nude doing a semi-dance zombie stagger on stage while dreaming about being anywhere else but there) with outdated 1980's music playing that wasn't even good when it came out, watching guys get fall down drunk. There's just no fun in any of that for me.
I've had a lot of sex in my time, about half pay and the other half "personal life" scores. So don't get me wrong, I like the fun and convenience of P4P. But I think the Angeles way of doing things is just too hardcore for me.
It's just not my scene. To each his own.
I usually go for spas / massage / anma type places where I can take my time and choose a girl, where the set up is all ready (walk in, pay a set fee, have a girl come to your room / booth / etc) or, at least, the casual bars of some places in Latin America where you can sit and chat for a while. For me, the apex of what P4P can be is the relaxation of the Macau Spas.
Of course there are many pretty girls here, many nice girls, and I will try to fit in as much as possible to enjoy my time here. But going by my experience so far, I would probably never return. Thanks again for the continued help and advice.
I just want to say, re: Ramos street, that I had a little different experience than WC on my two visits for ST today. It could be that WC is better at talking to the mama, negotiating, is a regular, etc, or maybe I am a total idiot and / or dick. The latter is plenty probable.
I tried three bars and was asked immediately "You want short time?" I mean, not even a chance to sit down. Guess that's the way it goes. Asked to grab a drink and decide, no problem. But whole time I was drinking girls asking me ST ST ST. Never a chance to finish a single cup of juice. Asked how long is ST? Told 1 hour. Said my friend got a bit longer, time raised to 2 hours. Now I will say, while the girls were in my room, they didn't try to rush out, but still, I didn't get the laxed vibe "come back whenever you want" stuff. Quoted long time at 1400 pesos,"bring back tomorrow". Didn't get a time on that, but since it was around 11 am and then 1 pm, still a pretty long time.
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 11:42
LOL you are seriously thinking of BYO in AC? No offense but unless you have a bi supermodel type then forget it.Thanks McDon. I've been doing a heap of RTFF since I first posted my thoughts. I'm probably over analysing the situation. Can't imagine I'll be too lonely in AC.
One thing that has come up is an overnight work trip to Manila during my stay. For that I might ask an AC lady to be a joiner on that trip. Will be late by the time I finish and it just makes things easier.
Yep, Pinay are very quick to adopt to situations. I admit to originally being cautious about my marital status with pinay. Now I just tell them, the shrug their shoulders and just keep on going.
BD
Wicked Roger
07-30-12, 12:59
No offense but unless you have a bi supermodel type then forget it.
Like I said unless you have something that is really really special bringing a chick in AC is just not worth it.Does a bi FHM model count McD?
Been to AC and got the shirt. Now if I go there is BYO as can go girl hunting to relieve the stress. Yummy. And she does like girls and does attract attention purely because of her figure (and what she wears)
Also a recently converted nursing student who lives AC. But not a FHM model. But is accetpably sexy and horny especially in 5" heels etc
Does a bi FHM model count McD?
Been to AC and got the shirt. Now if I go there is BYO as can go girl hunting to relieve the stress. Yummy. And she does like girls and does attract attention purely because of her figure (and what she wears)
Also a recently converted nursing student who lives AC. But not a FHM model. But is accetpably sexy and horny especially in 5" heels etcTell me you have photos to post.
; )
Does a bi FHM model count McD?
Been to AC and got the shirt. Now if I go there is BYO as can go girl hunting to relieve the stress. Yummy. And she does like girls and does attract attention purely because of her figure (and what she wears)
Also a recently converted nursing student who lives AC. But not a FHM model. But is accetpably sexy and horny especially in 5" heels etcOnly if she is a girlfriend of the month WR, the bar has to be set higher for experienced campers LOL.
Post was aimed at what seems like a newbie who has never been to AC. I am sure those that have been there and seen it all know what to expect and if that no longer excites them they either don't bother at all any more or find ways to make it fun again. I am sort of in between, love it for few days do many as I can and then take my FHM model of to a better place. God bless air asia, cheap and reliable flights from AC to Bora, Davao and Palawan with few more to go in the next 12 months.
Why am I here? Bucket list, wanted to see the place, short and cheap flight from Japan, easy access to sex.
I didn't say I am adverse to P4P, I'm just not really into bars. For me, bars are not fun places, in the Philippines or anywhere else. I don't want to sit in some dark dungeon breathing in cigarette smoke (even if there are pretty girls in bikinis or nude doing a semi-dance zombie stagger on stage while dreaming about being anywhere else but there) with outdated 1980's music playing that wasn't even good when it came out, watching guys get fall down drunk. There's just no fun in any of that for me.
I've had a lot of sex in my time, about half pay and the other half "personal life" scores. So don't get me wrong, I like the fun and convenience of P4P. But I think the Angeles way of doing things is just too hardcore for me.
It's just not my scene. To each his own.
I usually go for spas / massage / anma type places where I can take my time and choose a girl, where the set up is all ready (walk in, pay a set fee, have a girl come to your room / booth / etc) or, at least, the casual bars of some places in Latin America where you can sit and chat for a while. For me, the apex of what P4P can be is the relaxation of the Macau Spas.
Of course there are many pretty girls here, many nice girls, and I will try to fit in as much as possible to enjoy my time here. But going by my experience so far, I would probably never return. Thanks again for the continued help and advice.My sugestion is enjoy AC for what it is. Next time you are in phils have a look at QC and QC Avenue. Thats probably the place for you.
I just want to say, re: Ramos street, that I had a little different experience than WC on my two visits for ST today. It could be that WC is better at talking to the mama, negotiating, is a regular, etc, or maybe I am a total idiot and / or dick. The latter is plenty probable.
I tried three bars and was asked immediately "You want short time?" I mean, not even a chance to sit down. Guess that's the way it goes. Asked to grab a drink and decide, no problem. But whole time I was drinking girls asking me ST ST ST. Never a chance to finish a single cup of juice. Asked how long is ST? Told 1 hour. Said my friend got a bit longer, time raised to 2 hours. Now I will say, while the girls were in my room, they didn't try to rush out, but still, I didn't get the laxed vibe "come back whenever you want" stuff. Quoted long time at 1400 pesos,"bring back tomorrow". Didn't get a time on that, but since it was around 11 am and then 1 pm, still a pretty long time.Its NORMAL for them to come at you in Santos especially that early in the day. They all want to break their duck and you are coming at a time when they just want to serve you as quick as possible and go to the next one hance why the 1hr offer. By letting them bombard you with their crap they probably have you pegged as a newbie. Politely tell them that you want a drink and that then you will chose. Pick who you want talk to her or talk to mamasan and make your enquiries about the girl. Be as open as possible. You know the prices and the time limits so make sure you push for that and except nothing less. You are reading the forum so I hope you are applying the advise given to you. Don't be soft with them Santos they don't respect that, especially not on Santos.
Have fun
My sugestion is enjoy AC for what it is. Next time you are in phils have a look at QC and QC Avenue. Thats probably the place for you.What's the price of pussy in this area?
What's the price of pussy in this area?Haven't been to QC Ave for a while but I was in near by Timog Sqare in Feb. Cheapest pick up on the street 500p ST. Prices in the area go from 500 to 5-6000 in some of the top KTV joints. Plenty of massage places along QC Ave as well.
Haven't been to QC Ave for a while but I was in near by Timog Sqare in Feb. Cheapest pick up on the street 500p ST. Prices in the area go from 500 to 5-6000 in some of the top KTV joints. Plenty of massage places along QC Ave as well.Whats the street scene like?
Wicked Roger
07-30-12, 20:33
Only if she is a girlfriend of the month WR, the bar has to be set higher for experienced campers LOL.
Post was aimed at what seems like a newbie who has never been to AC. I am sure those that have been there and seen it all know what to expect and if that no longer excites them they either don't bother at all any more or find ways to make it fun again. I am sort of in between, love it for few days do many as I can and then take my FHM model of to a better place. God bless air asia, cheap and reliable flights from AC to Bora, Davao and Palawan with few more to go in the next 12 months.LOL.
I know and was just trying to add some humour. Not sure if she was the babe of the month but I won't reveal too much in case the one handed typist brigade try to PM me (slowly as one hand) for her contacts which are kept very secret.
I agree that the budget airlines in Asia make life so nice though spending a tad more on a bikini is worth while IMHO especialy when you see her figure in it (well popping out in it LOL)
WestCoast1
07-30-12, 23:02
What's the price of pussy in this area?Referring to QC?
Whats the street scene like?Post these in the Manila thread?
Smoky Jack
07-30-12, 23:17
Not odd at all. The time spent (on purpose) was to show you we expect you to spend at least a few hours researching, then going there and posting your significant experiences, before asking questions on the open board. Feel free to PM some of us. What your post and previous background said, was,"Hey, I'm not quite a newb. Help me out here. Please ignore the fact that I've been around for years, only taking information, not giving back."I think Westcoast has some good points. To fully participate on this board-if you monger, you need to report. It is a basic premise of the forum. I guarantee you that if I get to Angeles City, I'm filing a TR. And unfortunately I have spent many hours "researching" on ISG! If that means I don't have a "life", sue me!
How safe is the area around Marquis Hotel (Rizal Street corner Plaridel Street) at night?
Have taken four girls out so far. Two LT from Fields (1800 bf both times) , two ST from side streets (700 bf). Literally all four of these girls had deflated saggy tits and areolas the size of small pancakes, and two had a bit of bad odour coming from below (nothing terrible, but definitely noticeable). The girls were all nice, varying levels of sexual services, mainly good. But I am having bad luck in the body department for sure.
I just have to keep trying, because for me it simply seems too crude to ask the girls to see their tits in the bars (if they look terrible, I would then do what, tell them to get away from me? Too much of a dick move for me to pull off).
Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls -- at least with perky tits! -- in AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle.
I just have to keep trying, because for me it simply seems too crude to ask the girls to see their tits in the bars (if they look terrible, I would then do what, tell them to get away from me? Too much of a dick move for me to pull off).
Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls. At least with perky tits!. In AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle.Buy them a drink, talk to them feel them up, if not what you like tell her and don't worry about it. Most will understand and even try to set you up with a friend that has what you are looking for. The drink+small tip is more then ENOUGH. You are NOT a dick to do so.
No place is guaranteed but you may want to check out ponytails.
Member #4698
07-31-12, 16:32
Have taken four girls out so far. Two LT from Fields (1800 bf both times) , two ST from side streets (700 bf). Literally all four of these girls had deflated saggy tits and areolas the size of small pancakes, and two had a bit of bad odour coming from below (nothing terrible, but definitely noticeable).
Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls. At least with perky tits. In AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle.Tough luck RR, but maybe you can improve your luck by recalibrating your selection process. Try to focus on fresher, younger looking girls, girls with natural A and B cups, and girls with less makeup. I assure you there are plenty of cuties around with perky tits and fresh pussy's in AC. I like Body Shop and Pony Tails and have had good luck with lookers from Golden Nile and La Pasha. Lost in Asia specializes in girls with small round perky tits. I hate smelly pussy and I don't like to fuck it. Fortunately I have never had the displeasure in AC. The last smelly pussy I encountered was with a Greek girl in Amsterdam; pretty girl, lousy 60eu experience. I had just spent an hour in Green House coffee shop prior to meeting her, so my thinking cap was not exactly on straight and I shagged Miss Athena anyway despite her hygiene problem. Ugh! I made up for it the next night by shagging a pretty blond Dutch girl.
Member #4698
07-31-12, 18:08
R. R. 's report has gotten me thinking and asking myself the question: how many smelly pussy's have I encountered in the last few years mongering? Now if memory serves me right, I have had only 2 smelly girls out of more than 100 girls shagged. Furthermore, I have never found / barfined / shagged a smelly pussy in PI, Thailand, HKG, or Macau. In fact, if truth be told, on a few occasions (around 10) some of my girls have had such beautiful, sweet pussys, that I have gone down on them or engaged in a 69.
I did barfine one girl out of Rose Bar in Phnom Penh who had very smelly pussy. She was part of a 2 girl ménage I picked up that night. Both girls were lookers, but when smelly's panties came off, surprise surprise. The other girl was fantastic and was as fresh as a daisy, so I shagged the fresh daisy girl 3 times and only let smelly blow me a couple of times. Nobody at the party mentioned the foul odor and I tipped both girls $25 each. The next night I went one on one with the fresh scent girl.
My only other encounter in the last 3 years was with the Greek girl in the Amsterdam red light district. I shagged her, but it was kind of distasteful. I should have punted. Oh well, water under the dam. I have been subsequently tested twice and I am 100% OK.
So my score is 2/100 (or 2/120). I am guessing this is a fairly represetative stat and what most of us have experienced. Let the forum know your stat.
Manfield04
07-31-12, 18:53
I encountered a similar thing last year in Siem Reap in Cambodia. I was ready for the act and suddenly I could smell the pussy of the girl and it was stinking. What a put off. I had to let the girl go.
how many smelly pussy's have I encountered in the last few years mongering?
WestCoast1
07-31-12, 20:10
Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls -- at least with perky tits! -- in AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle.Kind of a dream. Its like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get. Best bet, enter a bar with lots of girls, buy a mamasan a drink. I use this as a tool: its one LD (150-300p) , but its invaluable information. She will tell you pretty much anything you want to know about which of her girls will do what, and what they are like. You may have to sacrifice one thing to get another. For instance, say, you also like anal. The girl with the perky tits might not do that. You don't need to pay a premium, the barfine should cover her services. Also, tell the mama you will tip her, say. 500, (the next day!) if the girl works out. Most mamas don't like to not get that tip.
Furthermore, I have never found / barfined / shagged a smelly pussy in PI, Thailand, HKG, or Macau.
T.BF 1-2 girls in AC and Subic that smelled like rotten fish. Don't know if its because of end or begin of period or just had the clap (STD). Trouble is that already BF and some bars will not take back girls for refund. Worse smeller was last year in Manila at one of the bars. Thialand so far have not gotten a smeller yet. For the smelly ones, I ALWAYS put on extra protection just to be safe.
Can't say much for HK or Macau as I've never pick up there yet (too expensive for my meager budget).
Also, tell the mama you will tip her, say. 500, (the next day!) if the girl works out. Most mamas don't like to not get that tip.Hi WC1,
Think this is way up on the high side as 500p is not even something I normally give the girl herself for being a good performer (200p is my norm.).
I usually only give about 100p to the mama + don't forget if you have given her a LD then you have already given her more peso.
Just my POV.
. And unfortunately I have spent many hours "researching" on ISG! If that means I don't have a "life", sue me!Spending quality time on ISG "is" the best life there is- aside from being there in person and doing what you already read here.
Haven't been to QC Ave for a while but I was in near by Timog Sqare in Feb. Cheapest pick up on the street 500p ST. Prices in the area go from 500 to 5-6000 in some of the top KTV joints. Plenty of massage places along QC Ave as well.I was in that area in March and area was pretty dead on the streets. Didn't even find that many SW as I went hunting. Only came across about 2-3 but ugly. Went about 8:30pm so don't know if this was a good time or maybe walking around the wrong streets. Notice a few KTV but didn't partake as prices was too high for pick up. Also notice a few massage places but didn't ask for prices as they seem high end.
What streets (names) crossing QC do the SW / FL hang out as this ave is very very long.
Its NORMAL for them to come at you in Santos especially that early in the day. They all want to break their duck and you are coming at a time when they just want to serve you as quick as possible and go to the next one hance why the 1hr offer. By letting them bombard you with their crap they probably have you pegged as a newbie. Politely tell them that you want a drink and that then you will chose. Pick who you want talk to her or talk to mamasan and make your enquiries about the girl. Be as open as possible. You know the prices and the time limits so make sure you push for that and except nothing less. You are reading the forum so I hope you are applying the advise given to you. Don't be soft with them Santos they don't respect that, especially not on Santos.
Have funHaving read a few post about Santos bars, I can tell all of you that the standard M. O and time limits have gotten stricter the last time I was there. Years ago ST was standard at 3hrs and unlimited shots within the time. Then starting about 1-2 yrs ago, ST was cut to standard 2hrs or if beg or know bar mama / owner well then still allow 3hrs perhaps. But now only "maybe" up to 2 shots if you ask nicely and standard today for a few I picked up were one shot and she leaves. No longer the guarantee 1 shot BJ CIM and another shot FS like days of the past.
Aside from the DIA site, what other sites have any of you guys used in either PI or Thailand that have gotten good results. PM me if you like.
WestCoast1
08-01-12, 01:41
Hi WC1,
Think this is way up on the high side as 500p is not even something I normally give the girl herself for being a good performer (200p is my norm.).
I usually only give about 100p to the mama + don't forget if you have given her a LD then you have already given her more peso.
Just my POV.The man said he is willing to pay a premium to get what he wants. He doesn't have to tip the girl anything, unless he desires. But if the mama delivers spring-fresh tatas, then RR should follow up with the mama. Paying extra to get something you want isn't that unusual. Telling the mama she gets a cut usually gets her sharp attention. She only gets the tip the following day, assuming the girl does well. Some girls in bars will show flash their tatas anyway (I think some guy got bashed recently for posting a pic in the PG showing faces, and the girl was flashing boob). I've used this techinique before and mentioned it on the board. If you are looking for something unusual, or specific, buying a mama a drink will land you which girls will do what (and which won't) , rather than you having to buy girl after girl a drink trying to find the right one. RR let us know if you have any success.
Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls. At least with perky tits. In AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle.
WestCoast1
08-01-12, 01:45
Having read a few post about Santos bars, I can tell all of you that the standard M. O and time limits have gotten stricter the last time I was there. Years ago ST was standard at 3hrs and unlimited shots within the time. Then starting about 1-2 yrs ago, ST was cut to standard 2hrs or if beg or know bar mama / owner well then still allow 3hrs perhaps. But now only "maybe" up to 2 shots if you ask nicely and standard today for a few I picked up were one shot and she leaves. No longer the guarantee 1 shot BJ CIM and another shot FS like days of the past.Concur. Three years ago a Santos ST was 4 hours, and LT was 8. Two years ago, they all cut it to ST 2 hours, LT either 4 or 8. In the old days, you could get two shots in, easily. You could get a shower and nap between shots. Now, you get one pop. If you do nothing, the girl will start to get dressed as soon as you pop once, and she will leave if you say nothing. If you remind her she has two full hours with you, she will come right back to bed. I was very surprised by the lax attitude of the girls and mamas a few weeks ago when I was there. Never, ever seen anything like it.
Discovered the promised land last night in some of the higher end places. Lot of hot girls in Pasha and Atlantis. Thanks for the recommendations! Took a very, very sexy 19 year old with a trim body out of Atlantis after another hottie in Pasha gave me the "ST only I have baby at home" routine. 3 pops last night, no complaints! She's still here sleeping next to me as I type this. Didn't try to talk to mama for special requests, but will tonight. Finally I can say I had a lot of fun yesterday!
BTW, is this place like Thailand where if you go back to the same bar and take a different girl you're kinda branded as a butterfly and may be subject to lesser service? Cause I saw a girl in Atlantis with an ass that would make me swim across the magma of Mt Pinatubo.
BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.
Infiniti has some hot door girls! Didn't go inside. Didn't find many mentions / reviews of this place so I'll probably hit it up later in the week. After another day or two I should be able to provide a TR with pictures.
BrainDrain
08-01-12, 05:16
BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.
Infiniti has some hot door girls! Didn't go inside. Didn't find many mentions / reviews of this place so I'll probably hit it up later in the week. After another day or two I should be able to provide a TR with pictures.Sounds like you are getting the hang od Angeles. Really looking forward to my trip in a few weeks.
While I'm asking so many stupid noob questions, what's up with the credit card options at some of the places I've seen like Typhoon and Cambodia? Are they legit, or is there some risk of double charges and the other kind of bullshit like that? Also do they up the charge? Some mongering spots in Japan and Korea increase the price up to 20% on CC payment. But for me, CC is just so much easier and (potentially) safer, plus, what could beat getting airline miles and cash back on a fucking barfine?
More stupid questions I know. I promise to make a solid trip report at the end of this all, with photos, and will continue to contribute to Japan and Korea threads. Thanks.
WestCoast1
08-01-12, 07:40
While I'm asking so many stupid noob questions, what's up with the credit card options at some of the places I've seen like Typhoon and Cambodia? Are they legit, or is there some risk of double charges and the other kind of bullshit like that? Also do they up the charge? Some mongering spots in Japan and Korea increase the price up to 20% on CC payment. But for me, CC is just so much easier and (potentially) safer, plus, what could beat getting airline miles and cash back on a fucking barfine?You can, and should, ask how much more is the CC payment. Most places mark up the cost of the product if you use a CC (even gas stations in the US often add a dime to the cost of a gallon of gas for CC) at least a nominal amount (and why not? Visa / MC is going to charge the merchant 1-2% of the cost of the purchase). They will gladly tell you before the purchase. Also your foreign (ie, american) CC will hit you with about a 3% FTF (Foreign Transaction Fee) for each purchase.
You can, and should, ask how much more is the CC payment. Most places mark up the cost of the product if you use a CC (even gas stations in the US often add a dime to the cost of a gallon of gas for CC) at least a nominal amount (and why not? Visa / MC is going to charge the merchant 1-2% of the cost of the purchase). They will gladly tell you before the purchase. Also your foreign (ie, american) CC will hit you with about a 3% FTF (Foreign Transaction Fee) for each purchase.Actually, it's long been forbidden by networks like Cirrus to mark up prices when paying with credit in a lot of the world, including much of America, because it discourages people from using CCs. The same goes with "minimum purchases" that you see in a lot of small stores. That'll all change real soon though as some changes are coming this year that will again allow them to mark up as you suggest. Of course it's long been the norm in "adult places" and bars, especially in Asia, because it's much more difficult to audit. I know this because I used to work in the industry.
None of my cards charge FTFs thankfully, though they do fuck you up on foreign cash advances (more than normal even, you always get fucked on CAs).
More than mark up (unless it's something stupid like the 20% some Japanese places charge) , I'm worried about double charges, skimming, etc. That's much harder to deal with. I would have to be tied up in those kinds of battles for weeks, unable to use my cards in the meantime.
LovingAsia
08-01-12, 08:33
BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.It's on Fields, and on the same side of the road as Doll's House. It's between Doll's House and the entrance to Fields
actually, it's long been forbidden by networks like cirrus to mark up prices when paying with credit in a lot of the world, including much of america, because it discourages people from using ccs. the same goes with "minimum purchases" that you see in a lot of small stores. that'll all change real soon though as some changes are coming this year that will again allow them to mark up as you suggest. of course it's long been the norm in "adult places" and bars, especially in asia, because it's much more difficult to audit. i know this because i used to work in the industry.
none of my cards charge ftfs thankfully, though they do fuck you up on foreign cash advances (more than normal even, you always get fucked on cas).
more than mark up (unless it's something stupid like the 20% some japanese places charge) , i'm worried about double charges, skimming, etc. that's much harder to deal with. i would have to be tied up in those kinds of battles for weeks, unable to use my cards in the meantime.the deal the merchants have with the cc companies are pretty much clear: no mark up's. but as you say,"adult places" stay out of the rules. trusting hte fact you are not going to claim with the cc company that "brothel so so" added the mark up! lol.
i have seen these mark up pretty much often in countries where cash is still reigning (and sea is one of them) and cc not popular (as major part of the poopulation can't afford them) similar situation in those establishments where prices are low. different story when you go to mall, stores (ie the rings of the globalization chain) but there their prices have space enough to accomodate the cc share.
on foreigh currcny transactions they earn extra through the excahgen rate, not always the best or the result of a formula that generates from the official xy rate plus a % (currency fee).
cashing through atm can result in extra costs as everybody has to make money from the service they give you.
i do not understand people protesting for these fees as they are the only incomes for the banks when they hand out cash to you.
i am not defending them, but there is a worldwide system on atm, hard and software. we might want to acknowledge it has costs.
Garry Smith
08-01-12, 10:41
Mind to post some photo bro.
Discovered the promised land last night in some of the higher end places. Lot of hot girls in Pasha and Atlantis. Thanks for the recommendations! Took a very, very sexy 19 year old with a trim body out of Atlantis after another hottie in Pasha gave me the "ST only I have baby at home" routine. 3 pops last night, no complaints! She's still here sleeping next to me as I type this. Didn't try to talk to mama for special requests, but will tonight. Finally I can say I had a lot of fun yesterday!
BTW, is this place like Thailand where if you go back to the same bar and take a different girl you're kinda branded as a butterfly and may be subject to lesser service? Cause I saw a girl in Atlantis with an ass that would make me swim across the magma of Mt Pinatubo.
You can, and should, ask how much more is the CC payment. Most places mark up the cost of the product if you use a CC (even gas stations in the US often add a dime to the cost of a gallon of gas for CC) at least a nominal amount (and why not? Visa / MC is going to charge the merchant 1-2% of the cost of the purchase). They will gladly tell you before the purchase. Also your foreign (ie, american) CC will hit you with about a 3% FTF (Foreign Transaction Fee) for each purchase.It has been mentioned here many times that there is a Republic Act 7394 that specifically prohibits any additional charges being added on to a cash bill that is paid by credit card.
Check out this link for starters. http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/cash-credit-card-prices/
It also gives you a hot line to report any business that tries to do this to you.
I keep the RA number in my CP. I used it recently in Boracay when a Steakhouse tried to hit me with a 5% surcharge on my bill.
I argued with the waitress about how it was illegal and then asked to speak to the manager. She said he wasn't in.
So then I asked for the bill to show both the actual charge and the credit card surcharge on my bill.
She went away and suddenly the owner appeared (European nationality) asking why I wanted this and generally appeared a bit aggressive.
I reminded him about RA 7394 and how it was illegal and that I was going to report him to the DTI showing them my bill and the credit card slip. I also showed him the phone number in my CP (+63 2 7513330).
I also said it will cost you 300, 000 php and possibly your license will be revoked.
He told the girl to take the card and don't worry about the credit card surcharge.
I reported him anyway because I know he was going to continue to rip-off unsuspecting customers (especially foreigners). I have since done the same thing again at Alona Beach in Bohol when another foreigner restaurant owner tried to rip me off in the same way. The DTI responded next day by personal telephone to my complaint and thanked me and told me that they were contacting the businesses concerned
Do it nicely but forcefully. These bastards are ripping you off. You are in the right to challenge them.
Really great fucking job RK! Seriously! If there were more stand up guys like you, this kind of bullshit wouldn't persist.
Too bad about the 1-2% +.39 cents or whatever the charge is. That's part of operating costs like rent, utilities, wages, etc. If you don't like it, don't do business, or don't accept CCs. That's your right as a business owner. I'm tired of bailing everybody out who doesn't like to pay their fair share. Why do guys like us have to be the only ones that suffer?
Do I get an extra 2% increase in pay when my mortgage goes up 2% FUCK NO!
Problem is in America the rules are actually changing this year and shops will be free to charge mark up on CC payments! That's what happens when you have a powerful chamber of commerce for businesses and nobody on the side of regular joes.
http://www.ny1.com/content/ny1_living/money_matters/165799/credit-card-deal-could-take-swipe-at-holders--wallets
We'll still be safe in New York though, because of local laws that are some of the only sane regulations left in our fine state.
I intend to (as I have done on all my Bali trips) in taking cash.
Only going to take 2-3G, but there is the card if I need it. That should more than do it for 15 days, the room can go on the card.
Of course I don't flash the main lump of cash, just enough handy until I get to the room safe.
Never been mugged or pick pocketed in my 48years, but I am aware of my surroundings and walk with confidence. And I am not silly enough to get pissed and go up back streets. And it is fair to say I'm never going to be a jockey.
Actually, had an attempted "mugging" once, as I was walking into Olongopo (it was just outside the old Subic Bay Navy base) ; a local fellow tried to scare me into buying a "Lucky Charm" to keep me safe. Clearly an intimidation thing. I don't like bullies. Asked him if he wanted to go into the canal behind him, the thing was dropped. Probably better to have walked away, but I was only young and was pretty annoyed about that clown.
Found out later that the US shore patrol did their patrols with M16s, pistols AND night sticks. Our shore patrol, who went with the US patrol, went with clean shoes. I remember being told the yanks thinking our blokes were either very tough or brave. No, I think it was just that our navy didn't hand out small arms. LOL.
We'll still be safe in New York though, because of local laws that are some of the only sane regulations left in our fine state.Wouldn't federal law overrule state laws? Certainly the case in Australia.
They can charge bank fees at ATMs (auto teller machines) as long as they are declared BEFORE you continue with the transaction. But that is more often when you use the ATM of a different bank than the one you have the account with.
I use my CC often, but don't see vender fees included. The price is the same regardless of whether it is cash, credit card or debit card.
If I knew a vender was charging those fees I simply wouldn't go back.
In Olongapo, I did many walking shore patrols without sidearm, just the stick. The guys who drove vehicles down the road had weapons and we were supposed to give thumbs up when we saw them. We gave thumbs down when we needed assistance. When we saw drunks asleep at their table, were taught to remove all glasses, try to wake them, and them step back. I used to chat up the lookers and promise to meet up when I finished my SP. They always waited for me. A guy in uniform is hard to resist.
I intend to (as I have done on all my Bali trips) in taking cash.
Only going to take 2-3G, but there is the card if I need it. That should more than do it for 15 days, the room can go on the card.
Of course I don't flash the main lump of cash, just enough handy until I get to the room safe.
Never been mugged or pick pocketed in my 48years, but I am aware of my surroundings and walk with confidence. And I am not silly enough to get pissed and go up back streets. And it is fair to say I'm never going to be a jockey.
Actually, had an attempted "mugging" once, as I was walking into Olongopo (it was just outside the old Subic Bay Navy base) ; a local fellow tried to scare me into buying a "Lucky Charm" to keep me safe. Clearly an intimidation thing. I don't like bullies. Asked him if he wanted to go into the canal behind him, the thing was dropped. Probably better to have walked away, but I was only young and was pretty annoyed about that clown.
Found out later that the US shore patrol did their patrols with M16s, pistols AND night sticks. Our shore patrol, who went with the US patrol, went with clean shoes. I remember being told the yanks thinking our blokes were either very tough or brave. No, I think it was just that our navy didn't hand out small arms. LOL.
WestCoast1
08-01-12, 17:46
Cashing through ATM can result in extra costs as everybody has to make money from the service they give you.
I do not understand people protesting for these fees as they are the only incomes for the banks when they hand out cash to you.
I am not defending them, but there is a worldwide system on ATM, hard and software. We might want to acknowledge it has costs.Nobody minds paying a fee for usage. But when an ATM becomes profitable, something's wrong. My bank is already making good money from keeping my money in their accounts (its a good chunk of coin, and they are loaning it out to make profit). I certainly don't want them making extra profit off of giving me some of my money from time to time. When I use their ATM, they have paid for it with my money. It helps them by my not utilizing the in-bank, well-paid tellers. The machine's costs: purchase, maintenance, replenishment, etc. Are eaten by the bank, which I'm already paying for by depositing my coin. They are welcome.
When my bank starts making coin off of ATM transactions (even if its not their ATM) , something's wrong. When I use the blue machine in Manila, the ATM there will charge me $5 (p200) for any transaction, which is profitable for the owner of the machine. There's a machine in Robinson's Malate that is used non-stop from the mall's opening to closing, easily 200 customers / day. That's easily p41000 / day to the owner of a machine. In addition, my bank will also charge me p200 ($5) for the transaction. Is there a cost? Yes, approximately 35 cents is charged back to the authorizing bank for the transaction. Is there profit? Yes, do the math, over $4. To suggest my bank should make a profit when I use an out-of-network machine is a bit offensive to the customer.
RK, thanks for the RA update. Am already in the process of re-contacting almost all of my hotels from my recent trip, many charged extra for using my card.
I second to this. P200 per transaction is a lot of fee. They also limit you about p8000 / day. To me it is ridicilous.
Nobody minds paying a fee for usage. But when an ATM becomes profitable, something's wrong. My bank is already making good money from keeping my money in their accounts (its a good chunk of coin, and they are loaning it out to make profit). I certainly don't want them making extra profit off of giving me some of my money from time to time. When I use their ATM, they have paid for it with my money. It helps them by my not utilizing the in-bank, well-paid tellers. The machine's costs: purchase, maintenance, replenishment, etc. Are eaten by the bank, which I'm already paying for by depositing my coin. They are welcome.
When my bank starts making coin off of ATM transactions (even if its not their ATM) , something's wrong. When I use the blue machine in Manila, the ATM there will charge me $5 (p200) for any transaction, which is profitable for the owner of the machine. There's a machine in Robinson's Malate that is used non-stop from the mall's opening to closing, easily 200 customers / day. That's easily p41000 / day to the owner of a machine. In addition, my bank will also charge me p200 ($5) for the transaction. Is there a cost? Yes, approximately 35 cents is charged back to the authorizing bank for the transaction. Is there profit? Yes, do the math, over $4. To suggest my bank should make a profit when I use an out-of-network machine is a bit offensive to the customer.
RK, thanks for the RA update. Am already in the process of re-contacting almost all of my hotels from my recent trip, many charged extra for using my card.
In Olongapo, I did many walking shore patrols without sidearm, just the stick. The guys who drove vehicles down the road had weapons and we were supposed to give thumbs up when we saw them. We gave thumbs down when we needed assistance. When we saw drunks asleep at their table, were taught to remove all glasses, try to wake them, and them step back. I used to chat up the lookers and promise to meet up when I finished my SP. They always waited for me. A guy in uniform is hard to resist.Well I'm sure it was a lot safer with you fellas there. Keeping your own boys in check as much as the locals.
Nobody minds paying a fee for usage. But when an ATM becomes profitable, something's wrong. My bank is already making good money from keeping my money in their accounts (its a good chunk of coin, and they are loaning it out to make profit).The cashflow bank needds to keep ready and available is not small coins. And they got to be ready at any time as they can't predict your visits to the ATM. ATM must create profits too, otherwise why to run them? We need to understand that banks are no charity organizations. Whether we like it or not. The solution is going around with a big wallet.
BTW, is this place like Thailand where if you go back to the same bar and take a different girl you're kinda branded as a butterfly and may be subject to lesser service? Cause I saw a girl in Atlantis with an ass that would make me swim across the magma of Mt Pinatubo.No, Filipina are more "open" and seem to not care as much for taking someone else out. In fact, on my last trip, one girl actually told me to take someone else she knew on stage instead b/c she said the other girl needed the money to send home. Either that or she wasn't really into me and use it as an excuse, but either way, I took someone else on stage instead.
But on the other hand, if you took the same girl out for multiple nites and she got a little attach to you then yes, she will get jealous and it WILL SHOW even if you didn't take a girl from same bar but she saw you with someone else.
Truth is, the banks already make money everytime you use your Credit card at home and they profit even more if used oversea as they can and will charge you anywhere from 1-3% more on any oversea transactions. Even banks that "claim' they don't charge a foreign fee are BS as it's a mandatory 1% off the top. Then they also make money with ATM withdraws with multiple ways, transaction fee for not using own bank networks, foreign exchange fees etc etc etc.
With any place at home or oversea, I actually don't mind too much if merchant tells me that they will charge extra for using the card as some don't like to absorb the CC charges themselves. At least then I have a choice of using the card or not.
What I hate are the ones that don't tell you they charge extra and do it anyway and you find out after the transaction had gone thru.
Capt Munch
08-02-12, 02:37
BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.
Infiniti has some hot door girls! Didn't go inside. Didn't find many mentions / reviews of this place so I'll probably hit it up later in the week. After another day or two I should be able to provide a TR with pictures.RR. As previously noted by other posters, it does sound like you are getting the "hang" of the place.
Not sure being a regular member how soon this message might before it is up.
You should be able to find Carousel at the top end of Fields. If memory serves me, it is just about 2 doors up from Dollhouse and maybe next to Atlantis. I had a favorite there for the last couple of years (a sweetheart) and I would say that there were some others in there that had strong potential. Had a message from my "sweetheart" just this past week that she is married now and in Australia. A bargirls dream come true.
Over the years, I have certainly barfined multiple girls over multiple visits, sometimes with the original girls blessing, sometimes by accident and who knows what the other times were about. AT least once because I was confused and looking for a great gal (it wasn't obvious to me that she wasn't there the next time) instead chatted with a gal that looked pretty much the same and then ended up with her for the evening. The error was determined later in bed.
The thing that always amazes me is that it seems that these girls have memories that must last forever. I walked into Angel Witch one night with a friend, my buddies gf and my girlfriend for the evening. We had some drinks and left. A couple of days later I was in there and looking for my evenings entertainment and one of the girls asks " where is your gf?" So it is easy to get tagged as a butterfly even when you are just barhopping.
Another gal I know. Probably remembers all of my barfines if they ever showed up for breakfast with our group in the morning or if they had met in some other manner.
I try to explain that I am not a butterfly (paro-paro) and when I am asked my name. Today I am Ed, tomorrow I am Frank, the day after I am George. So I can say each person I am is only barfineing one girls always. LOL.
Have a great time. I am glad things are going better for you.
Munch
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What I hate are the ones that don't tell you they charge extra and do it anyway and you find out after the transaction had gone thru.Correct. As we know "nothing is free in this world" so we should not believe some terms. Maybe some fees are hidden in the fix costs.
Dong Butler
08-02-12, 05:57
I've been traveling through Asia for many years. I always frequent the usual and well known places in PI and Thailand, so I've never felt I had much to contribute.
But I feel I have to give a warning about a place that I feel ripped me off.
I went into Color Bar a few days ago. As far as I know, it is about a year or two old. I do know that's owned by a Korean. I was the only customer. They have about 15 dancers, many of them are quite nice, and a lot of big tits too.
Before long one of the girls was calling to me from the stage. She yelled out, I'll lick your ass, I'll swallow your cum. Since she looked pretty damn good, with a nice rack, I called her over. After I ordered her a drink she had her hand up my shorts and on my cock in a matter of seconds. Some other girls on stage asked her what I was working with and she pulled up my shorts and showed them my meat! So now I had a group gathered around looking at my unit. That made me even more hard!
Everything was going well. The girl kept recommended a cute but fat waitress for a threesome. She said she was great at oral. When I asked her how she could possibly know that, she said "she taught me". I wasn't interested in her though, so she told me to pick another girl from the stage. Sure! I picked two, including one who yelled from stage "I'll swallow your cum". One was thin with perky tits, one was fairly fit with huge tits.
They came over and immediately all three of them had their hands up my shorts jacking me off and rubbing my nuts.
I asked the first girl repeatedly "if I take you out, will you stay all night"? I must have asked this four or five times. I was trying to give her an opportunity to tell me if she preferred ST, which would have been fine with me. No, we stay long time. All night. You fuck us all, round and round! I asked the first girl if she'd be okay to go with me for a week or two if we hit it off."I would love that! It would be so fun!"
After talking to the mama to try and get in good with her, I barfined all three for 5000 pesos. I even tipped mama and the waitress, which I have never done. Immediately in the street I noticed the vibe changed. In my room, they raided the snack bar. That would have been fine too, if they asked me. The first girl was okay, the second "I swallow" was very shy, the one with huge tits was busy on her cell phone. I brought that all to a wrap as nicely as possible, but I was still stern. Let's shower I said.
No room they say. They go first then me. WTF? Okay, seemed the shy girl wanted to clean her pussy out of my site.
After the shower, started into it. Boring and mechanical. There were two girls licking my nipples, one sucking me off. They rotated when I asked. It all felt good, but it wasn't as exciting as it should have been. Then I started fucking them. One at a time while the others stayed next to me. They had to change condoms between each girl, wanted to wipe my cock with a towel too. So romantic. What a GFE! After I fucked the big titty girl, she went to the bathroom to wash up. I didn't even cum yet!
I could have called her back but at this point, what fun would it be?
I tried to kiss the skinny girl. Even the first girl told her "do it". But she wouldn't!
Finally, I had enough. I just had the first girl rub my nuts while I pounded the skinny girl hard until blowing a massive load. She actually seemed to enjoy it a little bit. That was the highlight.
Immediately after that, they went into their own modes. The big tit girl was back on the phone. The first girl was texting. The skinny girl sunk into the TV so much she wouldn't even reply when I talked. Finally, I told the first girl I wanted to keep her all night but that I'd send the other two home. She seemed shocked."I have a baby at home, no good. I am scared." Again, WTF?
After asking one more time I had enough. I just told them all to get out."In a minute" they said. WHAT? Get out of my fucking room now. They packed up quietly and seemed shocked, even more so when I said I would go talk to mama.
I hate to be that kind of guy, and in fact I have NEVER complained in this kind of establishment before. But what was I to do? I've only ever had total GFEs before in AC, and I've taken dozens of girls LT. I'm not a bad looking or terrible guy, and I just shelled out three barfines after asking them FOR SURE, REPEATEDLY how it would go.
I walked back to the bar. I found one of the girls wondering aimlessly in the street, looking dazed. I walked into the bar and found mama. I told her my situation. She seemed understanding and agreed that they should have done as promised. She told me to wait and said she'd find the girls. They gave me a free drink while I waited. Finally some satisfaction, right? WRONG!
She found the girls and told me to go outside to talk to them. We get outside and she says "they said you told them get out". Yeah, I said, after all that happened, which I explained to her in full."I told them and they will go back with you the rest of the night". What? I don't want that. Look how uncomfortable it was when they said they were happy to go. Can you imagine how they'd act now? I want my money back I said."We don't do that here" she said with a snicker. What can you offer me?"The girls will go with you for the night". NO THANKS! I asked if she'd like me to report on what happened on every mongering website I could find, and tell everyone I know what a rip off the place was. Go ahead she said. Okay. That's the extent of what I can do. They obviously weren't interested in pleasing the customer or repeat business at all.
This is the second time I've had problems in a Korean owned bar (and I've ONLY had them there) , so it may be their way of doing things. That wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be ST guys in general.
For what it's worth, the hands up the pants stuff seems to be normal here. When I returned to complain, there were two customers both with hands on their cocks. So if you're into getting your dick rubbed in a bar for the price of a LD, this might be a place for you. There were also some other hot girls in there that seemed pretty nice, but then again, so did the first three!
YMMV, but I thought I'd give you all a heads up.
Dong Butler
08-02-12, 05:58
I've been traveling through Asia for many years. I always frequent the usual and well known places in PI and Thailand, so I've never felt I had much to contribute.
But I feel I have to give a warning about a place that I feel ripped me off.
I went into Color Bar a few days ago. As far as I know, it is about a year or two old. I do know that's owned by a Korean. I was the only customer. They have about 15 dancers, many of them are quite nice, and a lot of big tits too.
Before long one of the girls was calling to me from the stage. She yelled out, I'll lick your ass, I'll swallow your cum. Since she looked pretty damn good, with a nice rack, I called her over. After I ordered her a drink she had her hand up my shorts and on my cock in a matter of seconds. Some other girls on stage asked her what I was working with and she pulled up my shorts and showed them my meat! So now I had a group gathered around looking at my unit. That made me even more hard!
Everything was going well. The girl kept recommended a cute but fat waitress for a threesome. She said she was great at oral. When I asked her how she could possibly know that, she said "she taught me". I wasn't interested in her though, so she told me to pick another girl from the stage. Sure! I picked two, including one who yelled from stage "I'll swallow your cum". One was thin with perky tits, one was fairly fit with huge tits.
They came over and immediately all three of them had their hands up my shorts jacking me off and rubbing my nuts.
I asked the first girl repeatedly "if I take you out, will you stay all night"? I must have asked this four or five times. I was trying to give her an opportunity to tell me if she preferred ST, which would have been fine with me. No, we stay long time. All night. You fuck us all, round and round! I asked the first girl if she'd be okay to go with me for a week or two if we hit it off."I would love that! It would be so fun!"
After talking to the mama to try and get in good with her, I barfined all three for 5000 pesos. I even tipped mama and the waitress, which I have never done. Immediately in the street I noticed the vibe changed. In my room, they raided the snack bar. That would have been fine too, if they asked me. The first girl was okay, the second "I swallow" was very shy, the one with huge tits was busy on her cell phone. I brought that all to a wrap as nicely as possible, but I was still stern. Let's shower I said.
No room they say. They go first then me. WTF? Okay, seemed the shy girl wanted to clean her pussy out of my site.
After the shower, started into it. Boring and mechanical. There were two girls licking my nipples, one sucking me off. They rotated when I asked. It all felt good, but it wasn't as exciting as it should have been. Then I started fucking them. One at a time while the others stayed next to me. They had to change condoms between each girl, wanted to wipe my cock with a towel too. So romantic. What a GFE! After I fucked the big titty girl, she went to the bathroom to wash up. I didn't even cum yet!
I could have called her back but at this point, what fun would it be?
I tried to kiss the skinny girl. Even the first girl told her "do it". But she wouldn't!
Finally, I had enough. I just had the first girl rub my nuts while I pounded the skinny girl hard until blowing a massive load. She actually seemed to enjoy it a little bit. That was the highlight.
Immediately after that, they went into their own modes. The big tit girl was back on the phone. The first girl was texting. The skinny girl sunk into the TV so much she wouldn't even reply when I talked. Finally, I told the first girl I wanted to keep her all night but that I'd send the other two home. She seemed shocked."I have a baby at home, no good. I am scared." Again, WTF?
After asking one more time I had enough. I just told them all to get out."In a minute" they said. WHAT? Get out of my fucking room now. They packed up quietly and seemed shocked, even more so when I said I would go talk to mama.
I hate to be that kind of guy, and in fact I have NEVER complained in this kind of establishment before. But what was I to do? I've only ever had total GFEs before in AC, and I've taken dozens of girls LT. I'm not a bad looking or terrible guy, and I just shelled out three barfines after asking them FOR SURE, REPEATEDLY how it would go.
I walked back to the bar. I found one of the girls wondering aimlessly in the street, looking dazed. I walked into the bar and found mama. I told her my situation. She seemed understanding and agreed that they should have done as promised. She told me to wait and said she'd find the girls. They gave me a free drink while I waited. Finally some satisfaction, right? WRONG!
She found the girls and told me to go outside to talk to them. We get outside and she says "they said you told them get out". Yeah, I said, after all that happened, which I explained to her in full."I told them and they will go back with you the rest of the night". What? I don't want that. Look how uncomfortable it was when they said they were happy to go. Can you imagine how they'd act now? I want my money back I said."We don't do that here" she said with a snicker. What can you offer me?"The girls will go with you for the night". NO THANKS! I asked if she'd like me to report on what happened on every mongering website I could find, and tell everyone I know what a rip off the place was. Go ahead she said. Okay. That's the extent of what I can do. They obviously weren't interested in pleasing the customer or repeat business at all.
This is the second time I've had problems in a Korean owned bar (and I've ONLY had them there) , so it may be their way of doing things. That wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be ST guys in general.
For what it's worth, the hands up the pants stuff seems to be normal here. When I returned to complain, there were two customers both with hands on their cocks. So if you're into getting your dick rubbed in a bar for the price of a LD, this might be a place for you. There were also some other hot girls in there that seemed pretty nice, but then again, so did the first three!
YMMV, but I thought I'd give you all a heads up.
RK, thanks for the RA update. Am already in the process of re-contacting almost all of my hotels from my recent trip, many charged extra for using my card.I think that's a great idea WC1. And contact the DTI too. They actually listen to and act on complaints. I know that the Alona Beach restaurant owner has now changed his policy so someone whispered in his ear.
We all need to do this because crooked businesses are really using it to rip-off unsuspecting foreigners and these sharks will keep doing it if they are not challenged.
In most cases, as soon as I ever challenge any "add-on %" for using my credit card the vendor drops it immediately. They know the law, and it will cost them big-time if the DTI decides to go after them.
If they persist, the best approach is to say "OK, but please show the CC surcharge on my OR (Official Receipt)" and then see what they say or do.
If they say that they cannot do that (which is the usual response) , I then say "ah because you know it is illegal and breaks Republic Act 7394".
If they ask "Why?", I tell them "So I can report you to the DTI for breaking RA 7394 and I have the proof to show it".
In many cases hotels apply a CC surcharge as a trick to recoup the fees they pay to Agoda or other web-booking sites. So they get your business by discounting a room and then rip it back off you by charging 5% on your CC payment. They know that most foreigners don't know about the law that prohibits surcharge on credit cards.
Truth is, the banks already make money everytime you use your Credit card at home and they profit even more if used oversea as they can and will charge you anywhere from 1-3% more on any oversea transactions.Capital One is the only credit card that I know of that does not charge a foreign transaction fee. For this reason I have two cards!
Capital One is the only credit card that I know of that does not charge a foreign transaction fee. For this reason I have two cards!My HSBC bank Premier do not charge foreign transaction fee either, also I heard from my friend that his Citi thankyou premier did not charge either.
Mr Enternational
08-03-12, 00:57
Capital One is the only credit card that I know of that does not charge a foreign transaction fee. For this reason I have two cards!Today a wingman let me know that he didn't get charged a fee for Discover either so I quickly applied... We're happy to inform you that you have been approved for a Discover More Card with these new terms.
Key Master
08-03-12, 01:25
Thanks for the report. I've never had luck there with multi person parties. I think for most clubs if you did the deed, there is no refund. It's kind of the way it goes there. I've had to kick out one and keep one after the other one became a *****. Both were really shy when they were together. After the other one left, the one I kept was totally different and not shy. It's a face thing for some and some don't want the others to talk about what they're willing to do. There is an art for taking multiples and sometimes you need help from the woman like if she is into women also and let her do the interviewing and such. It's not totally related to your story but just saying that there are ways.
There are some cuties at Color Bar, but I thought they kind of had some attitude issues. Maybe having just taken the best one out of the group back would have been the best option after no refund, but this is in the past now.
WestCoast1
08-03-12, 05:47
DB: Even though you had a negative experience, this is a good, descriptive report. Allow me to make some comments, constructive criticism. Even though you are new on the board, in your report you say you've had "dozens of girls LT".
Before long one of the girls was calling to me from the stage. She yelled out, I'll lick your ass, I'll swallow your cum. SNIP.
Ev I picked two, including one who yelled from stage "I'll swallow your cum". One was thin with perky tits, one was fairly fit with huge tits.
I asked the first girl repeatedly "if I take you out, will you stay all night"? I must have asked this four or five times. I was trying to give her an opportunity to tell me if she preferred ST, which would have been fine with me. No, we stay long time. All night. You fuck us all, round and round! I asked the first girl if she'd be okay to go with me for a week or two if we hit it off."I would love that! It would be so fun!"All of that is good. Determining before leaving the bar what the girl says she will do in the room. However, none of this translates to GFE. Also, stay all night for many girls = sunup. Does it mean sunup for you (6am)? If you took the girls at, say 2am, is 6am LT in your mind? It is to her. Next time ask if she can stay till a more reasonable LT, maybe 8am (or later, an hour after your usual awakening, I tell them 10am). This gives you enough time for a pop right away, then wake them up for a pop in the morning).
After talking to the mama to try and get in good with her, I barfined all three for 5000 pesos. I even tipped mama and the waitress, which I have never done. Immediately in the street I noticed the vibe changed.Think I just posted in the last few days about buying the mama a drink, or promising her a tip. Thought I was quite clear that all tips come THE NEXT DAY, not before you take the girls to your room.
In my room, they raided the snack bar. That would have been fine too, if they asked me. The first girl was okay, the second "I swallow" was very shy, the one with huge tits was busy on her cell phone. I brought that all to a wrap as nicely as possible, but I was still stern. Let's shower I said. No room they say. They go first then me. WTF?Probably they are correct. Shower large enough for 4 people? Probably not. Next time that you want to shower, choose the hottie, and take her in the shower. After you get clean with her, the other two can get clean while you play with the hottie in bed.
After the shower, started into it. Boring and mechanical. There were two girls licking my nipples, one sucking me off. They rotated when I asked. It all felt good, but it wasn't as exciting as it should have been. Then I started fucking them. One at a time while the others stayed next to me. They had to change condoms between each girl, wanted to wipe my cock with a towel too. So romantic. What a GFE! After I fucked the big titty girl, she went to the bathroom to wash up. I didn't even cum yet!If you use condoms, switching between multiple bargirls can be a time delay, boring, and lose the mood. Many girls will insist on doing what they did at each condom change, you can count on most / all of these: Condom comes off and tossed, you shower, new condom, and while you are playing with the next girl the first girl is showering. Each time. The newest girl might not trust you showered well, and might insist on wiping your cock with a wet rag or towel.
I tried to kiss the skinny girl. Even the first girl told her "do it". But she wouldn't!Do other girls kiss you? Most bargirl won't kiss (there goes GFE).
Finally, I had enough. I just had the first girl rub my nuts while I pounded the skinny girl hard until blowing a massive load.No refunds after this. Period. Actually, no refunds after you stuck your dick into the first girl. Actually, the one thing the girls promised to do in the bar, swallow your cum, was the one thing you disallowed by pounding the skinny girl hard until blowing a massive load. In their minds, their only other responsibilities at that point are txting, watching TV, sleeping, and going home at sunup.
Immediately after that, they went into their own modes. The big tit girl was back on the phone. The first girl was texting. The skinny girl sunk into the TV so much she wouldn't even reply when I talked.Standard bargirl (no, standard filipina) behavior. If she's not busy sexing you, she's on her phone, your laptop, or the TV. They are rarely into cuddling and chatting with you. Some gents still consider my tactic a nazi move, but I still make sure the girl's phones are off and / or in the safe."I don't want to be disrupted." I usually tell them in the bar before we leave that their phone goes in the safe during our time.
Finally, I told the first girl I wanted to keep her all night but that I'd send the other two home. She seemed shocked."I have a baby at home, no good. I am scared." Again, WTF?Was it late? If the girls have a hard time getting home after trykes and such stop running, they might not want to head home (not safe for a 5' filipina to walk home at 3:30am). Also, usually when U-turn girls loose early, many are fine with it, but certain girls will have a fearful reaction that you are displeased, and going to report them to the bar, and get nervous. They get too scared to go back to the bar (as it sounds like one of your girls did) , and too scared to go home.
After asking one more time I had enough. I just told them all to get out."In a minute" they said. WHAT? Get out of my fucking room now. They packed up quietly and seemed shocked, even more so when I said I would go talk to mama.They were surprised, as they thought they were there for LT. When you cussed and told them to "get out of my fucking room now," they might not have initially known you were displeased. They thought they were doing the job as they have done before, without complaint. Also, when you ask for a refund, a mama that I know tells me that there are always two questions asked: 1) was there sex? And 2) did you scare the girl? If the answer to either answer is yes in any way, there will be no refund."Get out of my fucking room now," certainly qualifies if the mama or manager hears that.
I hate to be that kind of guy, and in fact I have NEVER complained in this kind of establishment before. But what was I to do? I've only ever had total GFEs before in AC, and I've taken dozens of girls LT. I'm not a bad looking or terrible guy, and I just shelled out three barfines after asking them FOR SURE, REPEATEDLY how it would go.Luckiest man on earth. Most bargirls don't provide GFE period.
I walked back to the bar. I found one of the girls wondering aimlessly in the street, looking dazed. I walked into the bar and found mama. I told her my situation. She seemed understanding and agreed that they should have done as promised. She told me to wait and said she'd find the girls. They gave me a free drink while I waited. Finally some satisfaction, right? WRONG!
She found the girls and told me to go outside to talk to them. We get outside and she says "they said you told them get out". Yeah, I said, after all that happened, which I explained to her in full."I told them and they will go back with you the rest of the night". What? I don't want that. Look how uncomfortable it was when they said they were happy to go. Can you imagine how they'd act now? I want my money back I said."We don't do that here" she said with a snicker. What can you offer me?"The girls will go with you for the night". NO THANKS!The mama was correct. The girls, while not satisfactory to your GFE, are not required to GFE. They are only required to spend the night with you. She was trying to ensure that the bar upheld its responsibility to the customer (spend the night). Once the sex act completed, and once you cussed at the girls, the refund was not possible. The best she will offer is the girls will return and spend the night with you (which they wanted to do anyway, before they knew you were upset).
I asked if she'd like me to report on what happened on every mongering website I could find, and tell everyone I know what a rip off the place was. Go ahead she said. Okay. That's the extent of what I can do. They obviously weren't interested in pleasing the customer or repeat business at all.They are only concerned with this if you have their picture (maybe).
For what it's worth, the hands up the pants stuff seems to be normal here. When I returned to complain, there were two customers both with hands on their cocks. So if you're into getting your dick rubbed in a bar for the price of a LD, this might be a place for you. There were also some other hot girls in there that seemed pretty nice, but then again, so did the first three!
YMMV, but I thought I'd give you all a heads up.Its normal in many bars, thats their job, to turn on the customer turned on, so he will take them out. Unfortunately, sometimes there is false advertising by the girl (s).
WestCoast1
08-03-12, 05:51
My HSBC bank Premier do not charge foreign transaction fee either, also I heard from my friend that his Citi thankyou premier did not charge either.From the HSBC website, regarding their Premier World Mastercard:
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/home/personal-banking/credit-cards
Foreign Transaction Fees
No foreign transaction fees3 on card purchases made in a foreign currency
From the HSBC website, regarding their Premier World Mastercard:
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/home/personal-banking/credit-cards
Foreign Transaction Fees
No foreign transaction fees3 on card purchases made in a foreign currencyFor now, credit cards with NO foreign transaction fees are fairly common. https://www.penfed.org/Credit-Card-Overview/ There are, however, the exceptions like Bank of America which charges 3% of the foreign transaction amount on their credit cards. The real pain is the $$ charged by the ATM owners for withdrawing money from their machines. The $$ can vary so you just have to be careful and find the ATM with the lowest charges.
WestCoast: I'm certain you have much more experience and knowledge about this place than I do, but in my short time here, I've taken 4 LT and 5 ST. All 4 LT and one of the ST gave me DFK for a long time, always after they started it. The other 4 ST were quicky 3 somes on the side streets and I didn't try (or want) to kiss. That's my experience anyway. I never asked in the bar before what they'd do. It just happens.
For me, the GFE I've been getting is probably the best part about this place. It certainly isn't looks, because even though many of these girls are beautiful, it seems the vast majority of them have post-baby belly at the very least.
BrainDrain
08-03-12, 08:26
I've been traveling through Asia for many years. I always frequent the usual and well known places in PI and Thailand, so I've never felt I had much to contribute.
But I feel I have to give a warning about a place that I feel ripped me off.I picked up a couple of Pinay in Singapore earlier this year and these girls sound like them."We sex all night" etc etc.
My lesson was that I and my punting style are suited to one-on-one encounters. As much fun and fantasy it was for me to have a threesome, by paying twice the price, I really only got myself 20% more fun. In future for me, I'll just take one at a time and go back for seconds.
From the HSBC website, regarding their Premier World Mastercard:
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/home/personal-banking/credit-cards
Foreign Transaction Fees
No foreign transaction fees3 on card purchases made in a foreign currencyThis is not necessarily directed to you WC1 but just be a little wary about accepting that what happens with your local HSBC card also happens everywhere else.
HSBC Philippines is a franchise of the international bank; So is HSBC Vietnam.
As for most franchises, they all follow the Big Boss Central Office (HK Shanghai) general rules but each one has its own quirky home-made rules that fit with the host country banking regulations.
Foe example, money deposited in HSBC Philippines accounts is only insured up to a total of 500, 000 pesos if something goes wrong.
HSBC VISA and MASTER cards should be no different to any other international cards in that it is VISA / MASTERCARD who sets the rules, not the bank.
I use HSBC Philippines and I find that their service is excellent, and because not many locals use it there is rarely any problem with lines in the bank or at ATMs to do business. I don't pay any fees either, because when I established my account I agreed that my whole-of-salary monthly pay would be deposited. They definitely charge fees for various services, because every transaction that has a charge always appears as a debit on my statement and then next line it is reversed as a credit.
This is my last and final question. I promise.
How do you guys usually go about getting pictures or videos? Whenever I bring it up, they are cool with it, as long as we're talking clothed pictures. None of them have been up for nude pics. I didn't even mention video.
Last night I tried to bring it up in Atlantis when I was sitting with 3 dancers, hoping it would help me find someone up for it early on. They all seemed pretty shocked, and when they told other dances I wanted to take pictures, they nearly all seemed turned off to me!
But I see a lot of pics in the pic thread, and I've taken a lot of pics and videos myself in Thailand, so I know it's possible. What am I missing?
ManonsanBoy
08-03-12, 10:47
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1311204]This is not necessarily directed to you WC1 but just be a little wary about accepting that what happens with your local HSBC card also happens everywhere else.
As for most franchises, they all follow the Big Boss Central Office (HK Shanghai) general rules but each one has its own quirky home-made rules that fit with the host country banking regulations.
HSBC central office is in LONDON
Perhaps I was the 2nd luckiest man on earth, but during my first and only trip to AC, Subic and Manila a few months back. 80-90% of my perhaps 25 sessions were GFE. Outside of Peru, the highest rate of anywhere I have been, and nearly all of my sessions were from bar girls. YMMV, but the notion that very few bar girls give GFE was not my experience, nor those of mongering buddies.
This is my last and final question. I promise.
How do you guys usually go about getting pictures or videos? Whenever I bring it up, they are cool with it, as long as we're talking clothed pictures. None of them have been up for nude pics. I didn't even mention video.
Last night I tried to bring it up in Atlantis when I was sitting with 3 dancers, hoping it would help me find someone up for it early on. They all seemed pretty shocked, and when they told other dances I wanted to take pictures, they nearly all seemed turned off to me!
But I see a lot of pics in the pic thread, and I've taken a lot of pics and videos myself in Thailand, so I know it's possible. What am I missing?Yes you need to ask them before you bar fine them and you need to offer $$ if you get a no. I even tell them I post them online, hence no face shots as few agree to doing porn.
Streetlooker
08-03-12, 20:08
DONG BUTLERS piece is a good example of this concept. However it was he that caused the whole thing to spiral out of control with his lofty expectations. 1st He was the one that let his dick do the thinking in the bar when the girls were doing there jobs to please the customer. If you can not think clearly with a girl holding your dick then you are the one that needs to improve your skills. 2nd the girls did everything he asked them to do what more did he want? The girls intended to stay long time he was the one that got mad and kicked them out what are they supposed to do at that point beg you to stay? Once you blew a nut you need time to recover If you take charge of the situation you lie there watch tv with 3 girls to play with. Once you got your recharge you most likely would have got a round 2 and then sleep. Once you woke up you would have got your morning sex and then the girls all leave just like you wanted. About the shower If you played your cards right you could have got one of them to wash you up and the girls were right there is not enough room for 3 girls and a fat ass western buffalo in most of those hotel showers. Another thing you did wrong was go to a Korean bar that caters to Koreans mostly. Koreans like a few other Asian counterparts monger in different ways then most of us westerners. I would be willing to say that those girls experience with customers are mostly Koreans and the Koreans mostly want there 4 minutes of sex and then go the hell to sleep. We usually want and expect much more work from the girls.
I picked up a couple of Pinay in Singapore earlier this year and these girls sound like them."We sex all night" . In future for me, I'll just take one at a time and go back for seconds.We are of course always tickled by the idea of a 3-some but seldom it ends as we dreamt about.
Every non-P4P threesome I've had was good or even great. But in the P4P scene, it's true that they rarely come out as you might imagine. A lot of times I think it's that it cancels any real chance at GFE, and the girls are afraid to really preform in front of the other girls.
My best P4P threesome experience came in Thailand. I was already with a gal LT for 3 days when she mentioned that she had a friend. She called her over and we had a real good time. Also had a PSE threesome in Eden.
But usually, it turns out just about as mentioned.
Wicked Roger
08-03-12, 23:17
We are of course always tickled by the idea of a 3-some but seldom it ends as we dreamt about.Is why I stick with college girls as then my 3s and moresomes always are what I expect. LOL. If we have a fantasy about how it should be before we start then likely you will be disappointed. Chemistry is key, my threesome in KL (see recent FR and pictures) was superb as we chose the girl and talked to her and my girl came and came. Yummy LOL
Is why I stick with college girls as then my 3s and moresomes always are what I expect. LOL. If we have a fantasy about how it should be before we start then likely you will be disappointed. Chemistry is key, my threesome in KL (see recent FR and pictures) was superb as we chose the girl and talked to her and my girl came and came. Yummy LOLBut you are a case of its own. LOL, you can't be a case model for the others to make their 3-somes. Certainly helped by (bi-) willing companions. In most of the cases the duos are somehow "forced together", even if 'sisters', as we know.
WestCoast1
08-04-12, 00:37
This is my last and final question. I promise.
How do you guys usually go about getting pictures or videos? Whenever I bring it up, they are cool with it, as long as we're talking clothed pictures. None of them have been up for nude pics. I didn't even mention video.Interesting. I rarely have a girl say no to pics. I always mention it in the bar. I spent a week in AC recently. 6 nights (lots of girls). In Butterfly bar, a girl was pestering me to barfine. I was sitting at the dance stage drinking. I asked if she was OK to nawty pictures, and you'd have thought I stuck a voodoo doll of her mom with a needle. Nooooooo fella, are you crazy? I was about to ask the girl dancing next to her, when she told the girl in Tagalog what I was after. That girl had the same bad reaction. Other than these two girls, every girl I took never batted an eye when I said nawty pictures. Several asked,"Video?" No hun, photographs."Oh. Yes then." They seemed more concerned with video than pics. I captured pics of at least a dozen lovelies, and several gals more than once. In several instances, the trick was to get the girl (s) to STOP posing naked all over the room (in creative ways) , so we could get down to some nawty stuff. I also got some nice bar shots with my point / shoot. I didn't offer any extra money for pictures (never do). RR, I will PM you with something.
Harry Dude
08-04-12, 08:43
No, Filipina are more "open" and seem to not care as much for taking someone else out. In fact, on my last trip, one girl actually told me to take someone else she knew on stage instead be / see she said the other girl needed the money to send home. Either that or she wasn't really into me and use it as an excuse, but either way, I took someone else on stage instead.
But on the other hand, if you took the same girl out for multiple nites and she got a little attach to you then yes, she will get jealous and it WILL SHOW even if you didn't take a girl from same bar but she saw you with someone else.This varies. While in AC a couple of weeks ago, I barfined a very nice girl from one of the bars. Her sister worked in the same bar. She told me that if I showed up the next day wanting to barfine her sister, that sister would say no, as I would be considered the customer of the first sister.
I certainly agree with Sharka in that if you barfine a girl for several nights, and then try to barfine another girl from the same bar there will be some unpleasantness.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=172611
Wow she is tiny!
Unless you are a giant of course.
Interesting. I rarely have a girl say no to pics. I always mention it in the bar. I spent a week in AC recently. 6 nights (lots of girls)Fields Ave girls?
The girls on Raymond I did ST with seemed like they'd be up for nearly anything.
I don't doubt you at all bro, you clearly have lots of pics. I just want to take some of my own!
Wicked Roger
08-04-12, 15:13
But you are a case of its own. LOL, you can't be a case model for the others to make their 3-somes. Certainly helped by (bi-) willing companions. In most of the cases the duos are somehow "forced together", even if 'sisters', as we know.LOL.
Red Kilt may agree (as will others who know me) that I am probablya case on my own LOL. RK wonders what a head doctor would do if he / she wanted to read me. I told him if she was cute I would be trying to get her panties off LOL.
The important thing you mentioned is not to force the situation. The girls I know are willing or want to try (that is be devirginised). And I have at 2 in the latter category that will soon lose that cherry to a girl I know very well and salivates at the thought of new pussy. And I just love to watch them especially when the chery realises how much fun it is :)
The one in Manila (the AC student) became a very greedy girl after her first time and had 2 more pussies in the next 24 hours before returning to he parents and acting as good Catholic girl again
WestCoast1
08-04-12, 16:08
Fields Ave girls?
The girls on Raymond I did ST with seemed like they'd be up for nearly anything.
I don't doubt you at all bro, you clearly have lots of pics. I just want to take some of my own!Most of my balks come from Field's, rarely from Santos / Raymond.
El Cubanito
08-06-12, 13:59
How do you guys travel to Angeles city? Taxi, private car or the bus? Are there any issues in getting into a taxi from manila to angeles city late at night. 10:00 PM and on. My first time to the phillipines
How do you guys travel to Angeles city? Taxi, private car or the bus? Are there any issues in getting into a taxi from manila to angeles city late at night. 10:00 PM and on. My first time to the phillipinesAssuming you have not yet arrived, and your trip is to go to AC (with no business in Manilla) , why not fly direct into Clark? This saves the hassle and time of a road trip or connecting flight.
Many airlines fly directly into Clark. I am flying via KL on Airasia for example.
Interesting. I rarely have a girl say no to pics.Filipinas love to have their picture taken, even with your dick in their mouth. Some are real porno queens. This is one of the best things about Filipinas compared to other countries. Man, I had this Cebuana from the old Silver Dollar (before it changed ownership) that smiled the whole time she swallowed. Incredible home-made porn movies!
WestCoast1
08-06-12, 15:06
Assuming you have not yet arrived, and your trip is to go to AC (with no business in Manilla) , why not fly direct into Clark? This saves the hassle and time of a road trip or connecting flight.
Many airlines fly directly into Clark. I am flying via KL on Airasia for example.Assuming you arrive in Manila:
1. Taxi. You have to make a deal with the driver. It's a 90-120 minute ride. Its going to run you a lot, as he must round-trip back to Manila without a fare. He will ask upwards of p4000.
2. Hotel in Manila for the night, and pickup the bus from either Swagman Hotel, Malate, or Southern Cross Hotel, Malate. Busses run several times / day, and are p600 and aircon.
3. Have your hotel send their car / driver to pick you up (most offer the service). It will run about p2500-3000.
Glenmorris
08-07-12, 04:29
One of the things I love most about the Philippines and Angeles in particular is the GFE. While I frequently get distracted by a great body or cute face, I keep trying to improve my interviewing skills.
Saw a article in this month's Men's Health that suggests noticing the following:
1. If she laughs at your jokes or maintains eye contact, she thinks you're cute and charming.
2. If she goes awhile without checking her phone (nearly impossible in the Phils) you are succeeding.
3. If she finds ways to touch you, she wants you.
4. And if she constantly adjusts her top or hair, she's trying to impress you
Sounds easy. But as I've learned time and time again,"my mileage will vary". Glen
Assuming you arrive in Manila:
1. Taxi. You have to make a deal with the driver. It's a 90-120 minute ride. Its going to run you a lot, as he must round-trip back to Manila without a fare. He will ask upwards of p4000.They will ask for 4000 but you offer 2500 and that should do the trick. If need be offer to pay the tolls. If he does not agree just walk to a different cab or take the bus to Resort World and get a cab from there. Ask for the free bus which runs every 10-20 min.
I like your post Glen. I'm not sure why it's in the AC thread though. I'll add my comments based on AC!
1 Her job security and income is directly related to HER being cute and charming. Among other things.
2 Many bars don't allow phones. But slip her your phone number anyway and see what happens.
3 There is all manner of touching in AC. Some want to give you a massage, but let's cut to the chase. If she's got her hand on the family jewels, she's doing one of two things, and usually both. (A) She's worried about oversize equipment so doing some measurments, and (B) she's trying to get you relenquish control of the big brain to the little brain.
4 I'm not sure if I understand this one Glen. You mean she's pulling down her top and also showing the psy hair? It sounds like a repeat of #1 and #3B.
One of the things I love most about the Philippines and Angeles in particular is the GFE. While I frequently get distracted by a great body or cute face, I keep trying to improve my interviewing skills.
Saw a article in this month's Men's Health that suggests noticing the following:
1. If she laughs at your jokes or maintains eye contact, she thinks you're cute and charming.
2. If she goes awhile without checking her phone (nearly impossible in the Phils) you are succeeding.
3. If she finds ways to touch you, she wants you.
4. And if she constantly adjusts her top or hair, she's trying to impress you
Sounds easy. But as I've learned time and time again,"my mileage will vary". Glen
One of the things I love most about the Philippines and Angeles in particular is the GFE. While I frequently get distracted by a great body or cute face, I keep trying to improve my interviewing skills.
Saw a article in this month's Men's Health that suggests noticing the following:
1. If she laughs at your jokes or maintains eye contact, she thinks you're cute and charming.
2. If she goes awhile without checking her phone (nearly impossible in the Phils) you are succeeding.
3. If she finds ways to touch you, she wants you.
4. And if she constantly adjusts her top or hair, she's trying to impress you
Sounds easy. But as I've learned time and time again,"my mileage will vary". GlenMen's health magazine is not referring to prostitutes. There are different conclusions when bargirls act like this,
1. Phi girls are not much into laughing at your jokes. These girls not that intelligent to understand jokes.
As for eye contact, she is looking to see if you will barfine her and improve her finances. These girls go with all sorts of guys every day. It has nothing to do with cute and charming.
2. Not all girls are into looking at their phone. Mainly it is a force of habit. It does not mean they are ignoring you. My non P4P GF listens to music on her phone. It is normal.
3. It is true if the girl is always touching you she likes you. Once again with bargirls it could be just an act.
4. Ever see a girl sit still? Girls are always fidgety. Usually checking their face in the mirror or adjusting their hair or adjusting their clothes. Nothing to do with impressing anybody.
John Traveller
08-07-12, 18:20
The last of the Fields Avenue bars is D'Club. Continuing two blocks westwards or upwards (passing misc shops) you come to Don Juico Avenue, aka Perimeter. The first bar is Ponytails. Perimeter is really two areas with one open space separating them. Most of the gogo-bars here are small, but a few are larger. Some have a pool-table. Difficult to say which are best as it depends on your taste and what you're up to. IMO the mid-size / small are best for bf, although not the very smallest one since selection wil be too small, of course. Bf is 1800 in the bars nearby Fields going down to 1300 furthest away. Drinks 70. LD 140. These places are best visited early in the afternoon, but they generally stay open until 10pm. I was there between 4 and 7pm (on three different days) , if you go at a different time your experience may be different.
Perimeter Bars. Overview: Open bars as of August 6th 2012: (most of them I just looked into quickly, so when I write "OK" that means the place is worth a visit, but not outstanding.)
Ponytails: OK+ Large stage two tiers bf 2500/1800 (se color of tag). A large place but inpersonal.
Lune Time: OK? Another large place. A bit expensive. Next door is:
Showtime: OK. Small place.
Stampede: This place is really good, Mid-size. Many pretty girls.
Brass Knob Club: OK. Small.
Eruptions: up a side street. OK? I am not sure about this place. Large, but very few customers when I was there. Girls looked average.
Dr. Holms: OK. Small place with average girls. It's on the corner, there's an inside passage to Eruptions.
Gentleman's Club: upstairs. OK. Also somewhat large, but few girls and customers.
Emotions: OK+. I liked this one. Some of the girls are attractive.
Then there's ten minutes to walk (or take a jeepney) passed some hotels, a church and an open space. Dangerous too walk here after dark, better take a trike. Then there is a side street sharply to the left, go down here a few meters and you come to:
Miss Magic: OK. A large place but almost empty when I was there. Some nice girls though. Turning back up to the main street you come to four small bars in a row:
TripleX: OK+. A few beautiful ones here.
Bare Assets: OK
Det5: OK
Candy Bar: OK. Some nice girls. Continuing a block up the street you come to:
Shack Drill: OK+ Just passed Perimeter Sports Bar. This place could have been really good. Some beautiful girls, but it's too dark.
NN: This bad place is just after Garfield Sports Bar. Too aggressive for my taste: "I give you blow job!"
Down a side street there are three small friendly bars. One of them called Nifty's. All are OK- Turning back to the main street:
Matrix Brown: A BJ-place? I didn't like it. Difficult to leave as three girls held my arms and a fourth pull down the zipper of my pants.
Ice: Good. Several nice girls and a relaxing place. Then there's four bars in a row:
Nasty Duck: OK. Small.
TA: OK. Small.
Midnite Rock: OK. Small.
Happy 69 Rock: The last bar I visit on this strech. It's really good, several pretty girls here.
Further on there are more bars according to Wayne's map, but I didn't venture that far.
Conclusion: The best ones are Stampede, Ice, Happy 69 Rock. Next best are Emotions, Triple-X, Shack-Drill. The Perimeter bars are a good and cheaper alternative to Fields, but also here you may have issues with attitude and runners (imo Subic Bay is better for a gf-experience).
John Traveller
08-07-12, 18:43
In the middle of a Typhoon:
So I am finally back in AC. On the first evening I check out the new bars on Fields, + some of the old ones I know from earlier trips. But nothing new. The big show-orientated bars (Atlantis, Doll House, etc.) are expensive and the girls tend to have some an attititude. Good place to watch but not bf. In the smaller places the prices are lower and the girls are more friendly, but you have to be lucky to find a pretty one. But in Typhoon I am lucky. She has a nice face, and a really fine body. Barfine has now increased to 2000, they have this "party bottle", I drink one glass of this strange stuff. Typhoon is a rather good place, lots of girls packed on a rather small stage and geared towards bf. We go to my hotel, the girl is really nice. After one session she wants to leave, I convince her to stay all night, a good gf-experience. An interesting observation: When I ask here to stay, she says: "Ok, but I have to text my friends so they don't become worried about me. Is it ok that I use the phone?" Yes, she behaves very good, not using her cellphone more than that, is it you Westcoast that have tought her? ;)
Sexy girl from XXX :
The next day I want to check out some bars on Perimeter Road, since I have never ventured so much into this area before. I start with Candy Bar, not bad, but suddenly it's packed with smoking koreans. Nearby is Triple-X. This place is small but good. Several good-looking girls here. One of them smiles to me from stage and I invite her down. I detect a bit of an attitude in her, but since she is generally friendly and really hot (both face and body is nice) I bf her. 1300 ST. Now there's a terrible traffic jam and it takes ages to get to my hotel. She's really good in bed, although she has a slightly attitude (a bit irritating), and she's not very gf. Also she leaves earlier than promised. But all this is typical from prettiest ones.
Old-School girl from Eagle Beavers:
Usually I visit several bars before I bf. But I on the third evening I am lucky in the first bar I go to: Eagle Beavers (on a side street to Fields). This place is somewhat large, with a long stage and it's geared up to bf. Some of the girls are good-looking, and the place is friendly. I sit by the stage when this really sexy girl bends down to me from the stage and asks me for a LD. This seems almost too good to be true, so I get a bit suspicious. But I decide to give her a try. So I buy her a LD and then bf her (1800 LT). Luckily my suspicions turns out to be groundless, she's great and stays until the next afternoon. We have two sessions and she's absolutely gf. She's only 23 but is an old-school AC-girl. A funny note: when we eat dinner at 1am outside my hotel, a girl comes running in the rain from another hotel nearby, heading for Fields. My girl laughs and says: "she's running like a horse". Yes, the clackity sound makes her a horse runner!
Dong Butler
08-08-12, 09:48
Does anyone know if Louis Grand is okay with bringing 2 or more girls to your room? Bad enough I have to do the walk of shame in full view of those cute "respectable" Filipinas at the front desk. I'd hate to have them call me over "sir, you are limited to one working girl per night".
Has anyone ever heard of a go-go bar called Margies and Margie's Apartelle? I found a gal with pictures showing the interior, but I don't remember any place in AC with that name. Maybe in Lapu2? The internet brings up an apartelle in Butuan, but is there also a go-go there? X
Does anyone know if Louis Grand is okay with bringing 2 or more girls to your room? Bad enough I have to do the walk of shame in full view of those cute "respectable" Filipinas at the front desk. I'd hate to have them call me over "sir, you are limited to one working girl per night".My information is two years out of date, but back then I had no problem at all with two girls and no request of a joiner fee (I had booked the room as a double). Don't know about more than two; sadly didn't give that a try. But two Filipinas in one session is a nice time, even if they don't do the lez thing fer ya.
Does anyone know if Louis Grand is okay with bringing 2 or more girls to your room? Bad enough I have to do the walk of shame in full view of those cute "respectable" Filipinas at the front desk. I'd hate to have them call me over "sir, you are limited to one working girl per night".LOL no such a thing as walk of shame in phils. Walk of pride is the right term hehehe. No limit, as many as you like is ok
Can somebody in AC report on the weather there? Is it as bad as Manila? Read from the Phil Inquirer website that NLEX near Balintawak is not passable to all traffic just like many parts of Manila. Looks like I might have to divert my flight from Manila to AC.
LOL no such a thing as walk of shame in phils. Walk of pride is the right term hehehe. No limit, as many as you like is okOnly walk of shame in AC is if you do not bring any girls. Reception girls ask you where is your girlfriend sir!
If ever a hotel opens in AC which does not allow companions it will close in a heartbeat.
In Manila they can get away with it because lots of familes come to Manila including foreign tourists.
BrainDrain
08-09-12, 08:28
Hi,
Thought I'd share a funny observation. In the process of preparing a short list of phone numbers for my upcoming trip I've been making contact through a well known dating site with some Cebu and Angeles girls. Angeles not so important to have numbers and I won't be panicking if I am caught short. In Cebu I like to arrive with a short list of 7-10 to account for various family emergencies that the girls might have and back out.
My MO with Cebu girls is conversation,"what do you like?","Where can we go?" etc I rarely talk smutty other than a little inuendo. This has worked very well for me in the past and the ladies have been wonderful. I have three carry over girls from previous visits plus a couple of new prospects to fit in.
The Angeles girls are so different.
ME:What do you like?
GIRL: Foreigners whom can pay me.
ME: Where can we go?
GIRL: Your hotel, when can I come?
I'm just so looking forward to arriving.
BD.
Only walk of shame in AC is if you do not bring any girls. Reception girls ask you where is your girlfriend sir!LOL.
Or it could imply that you are GAY.
[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1312722]Hi JT amd other AC mongers: did you happen to spot any exceptionally busty pinays (slim and stacked)? Thanks. I'll be there Oct 17. 19 in case anyone want to wing with me.
lol.
or it could imply that you are gay.i am sure there are some mongers who take ladyboys. if nobody patronised them i am sure there will not be any hanging around fields. do not know if the front desk girls say anything.
hotel employees have seen everything from gay mongers to multiple girls.
I am sure there are some mongers who take ladyboys. If nobody patronised them I am sure there will not be any hanging around fields. Do not know if the front desk girls say anything.
Hotel employees have seen everything from gay mongers to multiple girls.With estimates of 10-15% of the population gay, and who knows how many bisexual (especially when far away from home) , that's a % of market customers a smart business shouldn't ignore. In a shaky economic environment that extra 15% of potential customer base might be the difference between the business surviving or vanishing.
I've recently found out a a lady at work lives with her girlfriend, doesn't make me feel any less of her for that. I had long suspected she was gay, being trusted enough for her to tell me is a nice thing. I don't think it's a big deal, you don't choose your sexuality, just as you don't choose your shoe size.
Live and let live.
No issues with any type travel in AC. It's rainy season so it's going to be about 60% of rain everyday so you should expect some at some time during the day. Unless you plan on spending time in Manila there is never a good reason to fly there unless you have too. It's be rated the worst airport in Asia that past 5 years and is incredibly unorganized. Clark is small, easy in and out, and much less crowded with no security lines to speak of. You can fly into Manila if you choose and the beauty of the weather this time of year is you actually have the choice between motor vehicle or boat to get to Angeles.Thank you for the reply, veilen danke.
I am due to fly in late to Manila next week and put up a night in Makati before going to AC. However the reported floods in Manila has got me worried. Is the airport in Manila affected? Is it possible to get from Manila to AC? My girl in Mnl told me yesterday that it has rained continuously for the last 72 hours and many parts of Manila is flooded.
Alternatively, I have made plans to fly to Clark and just spend my time there. I don't mind the rain as I experienced the same thing last year and I wouldn; t like to cancel my leave.
BrainDrain
08-11-12, 00:43
Alternatively, I have made plans to fly to Clark and just spend my time there. I don't mind the rain as I experienced the same thing last year and I wouldn; t like to cancel my leave.There were reports earlier in the week that the road from AC to MNL were cut. I haven't specifically heard that they are still cut.
Flying direct to CRK is a good idea as it avoids MNL and CRK is a much friendlier / smaller port.
Thank you for the reply, veilen danke.
I am due to fly in late to Manila next week and put up a night in Makati before going to AC. However the reported floods in Manila has got me worried. Is the airport in Manila affected? Is it possible to get from Manila to AC? My girl in Mnl told me yesterday that it has rained continuously for the last 72 hours and many parts of Manila is flooded.
Alternatively, I have made plans to fly to Clark and just spend my time there. I don't mind the rain as I experienced the same thing last year and I wouldn; t like to cancel my leave.Just read the Manila forum K.
All of your questions are answered there.
Is filming your action OK in The Philippines or does that fall under illegal pornography. I'm thinking it's got to be OK if it's personal and I'm not trying to profit. Anyone know how that would play out?
It's just a question abou the weather. What is going on here?
Just read the Manila forum K.
All of your questions are answered there.
WestCoast1
08-11-12, 19:21
Is filming your action OK in The Philippines or does that fall under illegal pornography. I'm thinking it's got to be OK if it's personal and I'm not trying to profit. Anyone know how that would play out?It's illegal. About 2 years ago, some dentist in Manila was putting his patients to sleep with anesthesia, removing the ladie's shirts, and taking pics. He got busted. In response, they created an RA (law) saying its illegal to take pics of a filipina in any stage of undress (oddly, the law does not mention filipinos, only filipinas). It was reported in several newspapers at the time.
I mean, just look at the slowdown in my picture-taking.
Is filming your action OK in The Philippines or does that fall under illegal pornography. I'm thinking it's got to be OK if it's personal and I'm not trying to profit. Anyone know how that would play out?To be safe never have their faces filmed, the news and law makes the locals think it is illegal.
MadisonGuy
08-12-12, 02:19
Is filming your action OK in The Philippines or does that fall under illegal pornography. I'm thinking it's got to be OK if it's personal and I'm not trying to profit. Anyone know how that would play out?If you're that worried just take the video and save it to a server on the net that only you have access to. The odds of something happening are probably a million to 1 but I still would never keep anything on my camera going through customs. Never had any problem but I want it to always be that way.
Is filming your action OK in The Philippines or does that fall under illegal pornography. I'm thinking it's got to be OK if it's personal and I'm not trying to profit. Anyone know how that would play out?I'm thinking of being in a prison in the Philippines for a long long time. Check the pornograpy laws out. Why take the chance?
It's just a question abou the weather. What is going on here?It's stopped raining now for 2 days and anywhere in Manila that tourists / visitors go that is not "off the beaten track" is all clear.
The highway to AC was clear by last Thursday pm so no hassles now.
However, the forecast is for ANOTHER monsoon storm next week, so expect more rain. There will be more floods because the ground is saturated.
Note that the long term tip is for another 3 typhoons still to come in the next month so if you have plans be sure to keep a close eye on the weather.
If you want a first-hand account, check on http://www.inquirer.net/ Or on http://www.philstar.com/ Or http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/ Rather than asking here.
There are a few armchair forecasters here who are sitting at home in another country making comments based on 2nd and 3rd hand data from gfs etc.
It's just a question abou the weather. What is going on here?Exactly. Anyway, thanks for the info, guys.
Apart from Manila, the weather and news reports quoted that 9 other provinces including Pampanga are affected. I hope nobody from ISG was caught and missed their flights.
Thanks for all your advice guys!
(PHILSTAR UPDATE) Mild quake jolts Metro Manila.
Home Updated August 07, 2012 01:45 PM 0 comment to this post
MANILA, Philippines. Parts of Metro Manila and Pampanga were struck by a mild earthquake as it was being pounded by heavy rains on Tuesday afternoon.
The Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) reported that a magnitude-5. 3 earthquake was traced 42 kilometers northwest of Lubang town in Occidental Mindoro. The quake took place at 1:03 pm.
The quake, which was tectonic in origin, was felt at Intensty 3 in Lubang Island and Intensity 2 in Pasay City, Sampaloc in Manila, Clark in Pampanga and Olongapo City.
It was also felt at Intensity 1 in Quezon City.
Phivolcs said in its bulletin that the quake may produce aftershocks.
The quake struck as a large part of Luzon, including Metro Manila, was being pounded by heavy rains brought on by the southwest monsoon enhanced by a tropical storm in Taiwan.
Work in private and government offices and classes in all levels in Metro Manila and several provinces in Luzon were suspended due to massive flooding.
Every non-P4P threesome I've had was good or even great. But in the P4P scene, it's true that they rarely come out as you might imagine. A lot of times I think it's that it cancels any real chance at GFE, and the girls are afraid to really preform in front of the other girls.
My best P4P threesome experience came in Thailand. I was already with a gal LT for 3 days when she mentioned that she had a friend. She called her over and we had a real good time. Also had a PSE threesome in Eden.
But usually, it turns out just about as mentioned.Haha, Ya, Its hard to loose at Eden. I think its a satisfaction guaranteed deal.
Haha, Ya, Its hard to loose at Eden. I think its a satisfaction guaranteed deal.Great experience every time at Eden but I still think best 3somes are the once where you know the girls for a while and everyone is comfortable with each other. My best 3somes have been in AC and Manila.
How do you guys travel to Angeles city? Taxi, private car or the bus? Are there any issues in getting into a taxi from manila to angeles city late at night. 10:00 PM and on. My first time to the phillipinesI would discourage you to go by bus when arriving late at night. AC hotels can arrange an airport pick-up for you which is IMHO the better option.
Cheers!
Hesekiels
In my room at the ABC Hotel I donned a pair of madras shorts, casual blazer, polo shirt, dress sandals and a Panama hat and then headed down Fields and hit Aloha. I sat down by myself and watched the dancers. I noticed that .Luga'. You were over on the Thailand Forum before, most notable in the Pattaya thread, going for it.
If anyone wants to understand what more is to come from Luga', check Pattaya thread, LOL. Better still, click 'former posts' to left of his post. One thing for sure he is 'different', LOL.
It will be interesting to see the reaction of the Philippine mongers reaction to your 'unique' posts. Interesting to see. But wait gentlemen, there is more, lots more from Luga'. Keep your powder dry, LOL. I await, Philippine Mongers, to see your verdict re Luga', I await. Curious.
Disclaimer. I have been absent from ISG for some time, maybe Luga' has already posted heaps in Phil Forum.
Madras shorts, polo shirt, blazer, polo shirt and DRESS SANDALS? WTF are dress sandals?
I would have pointed and asked WTF is that guy? And then you took a trike? Wish I had a camera to memorialize that.
Mr. Big in a trike. You got to be shitt'and us here.
Dress code. I have noted the Panama hat and will order one in from a suitable boutique asap.
Other than that, I regret giving delusional Luga' recognition, my bad.
Screaming Beaver
08-18-12, 03:51
Madras shorts, polo shirt, blazer, polo shirt and DRESS SANDALS? WTF are dress sandals?
I would have pointed and asked WTF is that guy? And then you took a trike? Wish I had a camera to memorialize that.
Mr. Big in a trike. You got to be shitt'and us here.Instead of being the fashion police, you should have been more aghast by the glass dildo shoved up his ass. I'd bet Lugal is a Family Law Attorney.
She slipped a glass dong in my anus
Cunning Stunt
08-18-12, 10:48
Lugs hits Angeles. Will AC ever be the same again? Pattaya is still in recovery.
.I kissed her breasts and then ate her pussy with a vehement passion.Was that with fava beans accompanied by a fine chianti?
.we headed to Fields on a trike. I kissed her goodbye and headed off to Forbidden City.Bloody hell. Your a marvel. All the way to Beijing on a trike.
Can't wait for the next thrilling chapter of 'Lugs hits Angeles'.
ThatGuy865
08-18-12, 15:40
If you guys look at the dates of his post. You will see this guy "LUGA" is a fraud. Writing "Penthouse forum" BS for his amusement.
He says he arrived in AC 1 week ago.
He writes in the DR forum. Just 2 days ago. He was there.
The day before that. In the America.
He doesn't even write like someone whose even been to AC. A trike to and from ABC to FIELDS. When ABC has SHUTTLE service. FREE.
Chocha Monger
08-19-12, 06:24
Instead of being the fashion police, you should have been more aghast by the glass dildo shoved up his ass. I'd bet Lugal is a Family Law Attorney.Beaver,
When I read his post I could only hope that the poor bar girl was able to find good mental health therapy. She must have been dreadfully traumatized when Lugal ordered her to impale his hemorrhoid cluster with that enormous glass spike sans lube! She certainly earned the 1, 000 peso tip and the Conspicuous Gallantry Cross.
All the female track stars have their own websites and facebook profiles. For the ones that are single, when they get back from London I will send them messages to see if they would like to go out to a nightclub with me in celebration of their spectacular performances. They can pay for their plane tickets to New York and I will pick up the drink tabs.The above, ex 'American Women' thread of ISG, ex Luga' previous posts.
Luga', was curious how you went with the London Olympics athletics stars. Anyone take you up on your offer of drinks?
Lugs hits Angeles. Will AC ever be the same again? Pattaya is still in recovery.
Was that with fava beans accompanied by a fine chianti?
Bloody hell. Your a marvel. All the way to Beijing on a trike.
Can't wait for the next thrilling chapter of 'Lugs hits Angeles'.Nice "Silence of the Lambs" quote, I guess part of the "price" of freedom of this board it putting up with trolls like this.
Like no one was going to notice!
MadisonGuy
08-19-12, 14:26
If you guys look at the dates of his post. You will see this guy "LUGA" is a fraud. Writing "Penthouse forum" BS for his amusement.
He says he arrived in AC 1 week ago.
He writes in the DR forum. Just 2 days ago. He was there.
The day before that. In the America.
He doesn't even write like someone whose even been to AC. A trike to and from ABC to FIELDS. When ABC has SHUTTLE service. FREE.Shuttle? It's a short walk why would you take a shuttle or a taxi?
KyCuriosity
08-19-12, 14:43
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila? I also asked in another forum about the Hana Hotel or if anyone could give a short review on the budget lodging situation in AC?
WestCoast1
08-19-12, 16:12
If you guys look at the dates of his post. You will see this guy "LUGA" is a fraud. Writing "Penthouse forum" BS for his amusement.Poor Lugs, taking a beating! I read back thru his previous reports in various countries, they are all "Penthouse Forum-ish." Maybe its just his writing style?
Luga, post some pics of your girls at ABC in your room.
Shuttle? It's a short walk why would you take a shuttle or a taxi?Being too drunk and high heels diba. Also the rain at times hahaha
BrainDrain
08-20-12, 04:08
I lapped her clit and labia.Kind of a technical term. I bet the pinay really knew what he was doing.
Screaming Beaver
08-20-12, 23:04
Clark is a small airport with one terminal. No security lines to speak of and easy to get in and out of. Manila on the other hand was just voted the worst airport in the world, not just the PI's, but the world. It is filled with corruption, incompetence, aggravation, and mismanagement. If there was a God he would have destoryed this airport when Pinatubo blew it's top. At all cost, avoid NAIA. The bus ride to Angeles is approximately 2 hours and costs about $50. 00 if I remember correctly.Don't' let Vealanstink scare you away from Manila Airport. He's a bit paranoid with very little first hand knowledge. Even though CRK is a sleepy airport compared to NAIA, Manila is not as bad as portrayed by Vealy. I've flown in and out of Manila on countless occasions with no problems. If you know what you are doing and not totally clueless and / or stupid it's pretty much like any other international airport. Don't be afraid to fly to this airport if you would like to visit some places other than Angeles City. Also, the bus ride from Manila to AC on the Victory Liner is only a few bucks instead of the $50 he quotes assuming you don't mind taking public transportation. It leaves out of Pasay regularly which is close to the airport and will only take a couple hours to get there. In fact, it's a lot of fun compared to taking the 'Fly The Bus' with a bunch of sweaty fatass foreigners.
Fast Eddie 48
08-20-12, 23:49
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila? I also asked in another forum about the Hana Hotel or if anyone could give a short review on the budget lodging situation in AC?To Kycuriosity
The problems with Clark is most flight arrive very late like after 11. Pm at night, there are more international flight now I have fly in from Macau, KL and Bangkok before Airasia and Tiger Air offer low buget fare, there are not much in Manila anyway and hotel and monger is expensive not much reason to fly into to Manila, for hotel in AC you should go to AC hotel thread for more info.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4698
08-21-12, 00:36
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila?I like flying into Clark. I have done it several times from Macau and will do it shortly from KL. I reserve a seat in the first few rows of the plane (Cebu Pacific and Air Asia) for a nominal charge and usually I am the 3rd or 4th person through customs. No waiting. Then it is a very short distance from customs to baggage to out the front door. I am glad Air Asia is starting to use Clark as their hub in the PI.
On the other hand, there are no flights from the USA straight into Clark. On my next trip, rather than fly into HKG, spend a few days, and then fly into Clark; I am flying Delta from FLL to Detroit to Manila. What a bruiser this flight is going to be, but in 22. 5 hours I will be in beautiful downtown Malate about to have a great time. I am looking forward to my arrival and the next few nights in the big city. Flying into MNL is not so bad, although it is a bigger headache than Clark. If I were you, I would not fly into MNL unless you plan to make the most of it and enjoy a few nights in Manila before moving on to AC. If this is strictly an AC adventure then fly straight to Clark.
Well, Manila is worth a visit. Nevertheless, if I had a choice, I'd fly into AC, but there are no flights from where I live. As it is, I often pay extra to fly into Cebu and skip Luzon altogether. Especially during July August rainy months.
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila? I also asked in another forum about the Hana Hotel or if anyone could give a short review on the budget lodging situation in AC?
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila? I also asked in another forum about the Hana Hotel or if anyone could give a short review on the budget lodging situation in AC?Being a small regional airport is a piece of cake going through. Not to worry. Taxi to the fields avenue area will cost you 400 pesos. Taxis are waiting for every flight even at 04:00 hrs Try to share it with another passenger. Only 10 min ride.
I have used NAIA Manila airport 2-3 times flying on Cebu pacific leaving to Jakarta (evening flight) and it was acceptable and very quick for only baggage drop. Had done on line check-in. 150 pesos taxi ride from Malate and only 15-20 min.
From AC to Manila I use Swangman's "fly the bus" bus service because they do collect me from my hotel, they have a mid-day bus that suites me the most and their drop off at Swangman's hotel in Manila is right in the heart of Malate only a few blocks from my hotel there. 600 pesos per head.
Also, the bus ride from Manila to AC on the Victory Liner is only a few bucks instead of the $50 he quotes assuming you don't mind taking public transportation. It leaves out of Pasay regularly which is close to the airport and will only take a couple hours to get there.Thanks for the info that I was not aware of. Where exactly do they drop off pax in AC and do they make a few minutes stop on the way?
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Where exactly do they drop off pax in ACEither in Dau or Marquee Mall. Both a short trike ride from Fields, or Jeepneys available as well.
and do they make a few minutes stop on the way?No.
Manila is not as bad as portrayed by Vealy. I've flown in and out of Manila on countless occasions with no problems.Same here. Had a round trip to Los Angeles recently, both times no problems at all.
Also, the bus ride from Manila to AC on the Victory Liner is only a few bucksCorrect, it's around 150ps only.
How is flying into Clark International Airport? I might be visiting in 4-5 months and was looking to fly directly to AC instead of Manila. Is the airport better than Manila? Or worth it to avoid the hassle of traffic and such in Manila? I also asked in another forum about the Hana Hotel or if anyone could give a short review on the budget lodging situation in AC?Just flew in and out of there. Was a breeze. Not much going on in the airport as far as food and services, but great access point to AC with cheap and simple flights, no lines on entering and exiting the country. No hassles at all. 1 minute walk to taxi stand, catch one to town 400-500 pesos. 10 minutes or less ride.
Much better than Manila IMHO if Angeles is your final destination, but then again, the greyhound terminal in NYC is probably better than Manila airport which is indeed one of the worst in the world, rivaling NYC's crumbling offerings of LGA and JFK.
No hassles at all. 1 minute walk to taxi stand, catch one to town 400-500 pesos. 10 minutes or less ride.I thought it was 300? Has the rate gone up?
I'm going to be flying direct to AC from KL, but out of interest (and for the benefit of others) are there connecting flights from Manilla to AC?
That might be handy for someone coming from Denpasar or Jakarta, or from the USA.
I know it's only a couple of hours in the bus, but flights are undoubtably cheap if available.
As far as I know, no such flights. I did fly from Hong Kong to Clark round trip for $39 USD though.
I thought it was 300? Has the rate gone up?Don't know, never flew through there before. Taxi driver said 500 from airport to Fields, hotel confirmed on arrival that the rate was proper, asked around and heard the same. Return via SUV booked through Lewis Grand hotel for 400, Filipina friend offered to get me taxi at "local rate" turned out it was also 400 pesos. Went with the former.
What's really outrageous is 100 pesos for a trike from around Louis Grand to Walking Street/Fields. It's about a 2 minute trek for the price of an hour long subway ride in NYC! "Foreigner rate" of course. Locals are paying less than half.
Member #4698
08-21-12, 15:51
out of interest (and for the benefit of others) are there connecting flights from Manilla to AC?
I know it's only a couple of hours in the bus, but flights are undoubtably cheap if available.You question is like asking if there are connectiong flights between LaGuardia and Newark airport or between Midway and Ohare in Chicago. If money is no object, you can take a Helicopter from the ABC Hotel to the Manila Airport.
Taxi driver said 500 from airport to Fields, hotel confirmed on arrival that the rate was proper, asked around and heard the same.Anyone else have info on this? The rate used to be 300. 500 is way too much for this short of distance.
FWIW, Kokomos quoted 600 to the airport.
You question is like asking if there are connectiong flights between LaGuardia and Newark airport or between Midway and Ohare in Chicago. If money is no object, you can take a Helicopter from the ABC Hotel to the Manila Airport.Having never been to the US, the obviousness of your analogy is lost on me!
They are only a few kilometers apart. What he's saying is it'd be faster (not to mention cheaper) to make the trip by land vehicle than go through the process or boarding, taxiing, flying, landing, unloading a plane.
Having never been to the US, the obviousness of your analogy is lost on me!Google maps can always be a source of useful information
It is far better to travel at night when the roads are quiet as I learned, I supose this is common sense. Can't recall how long it took, felt way quicker than traveling daytime that's for sure. Buses leave every twenty minutes or so. I travelled with (see image) 143p one way.
MadisonGuy
08-21-12, 23:50
If you get a good cabby they know the fastest route for the day. My guy took highway going there and we got there quick, on the way back we went through the burbs and it was about 15min later. I think going back was on a Sunday.
Dflostrife
08-22-12, 01:15
I'm planing a trip to Philippines this coming March and would like to know if any one has info on what flights or airlines are better, I have been in Angeles a lot of times but was traveling from places like Korea or Japan and now I'll be flying out of Dallas.
Punter 127
08-22-12, 01:41
I thought it was 300? Has the rate gone up?Yes it's now 500p from Clark to Fields.
I saw a new air con Jeepney service that runs from Clark to Dau bus terminal, I think it cost 50p and you can get off at any point along the route.
Anyone else have info on this? The rate used to be 300. 500 is way too much for this short of distance.I have booked hotel transport Fields-CRK & vv for several parties lately and it was never more than 300 (regular). The only instance I paid 500 was when we were a larger group of guys, ie they had to use a van. Taxi should be same or less, I used to get 150, but I guess those days are gone.
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