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Punter 127
08-22-12, 04:16
I have booked hotel transport Fields-CRK & vv for several parties lately and it was never more than 300 (regular). The only instance I paid 500 was when we were a larger group of guys, ie they had to use a van. Taxi should be same or less, I used to get 150, but I guess those days are gone.Wow really, in the last six months I've scheduled taxi pick up with the Walk-A-about, Orchid Inn, and Pacific Breeze hotels they have all charged 400p each way. The taxi stand at Clark is asking 500p.
Can you please provide contact info for the 300p taxi service?
BTW I think even at 300p it's a rip off!
Wow really, in the last six months I've scheduled taxi pick up with the Walk-A-about, Orchid Inn, and Pacific Breeze hotels they have all charged 400p each way. The taxi stand at Clark is asking 500p.Oh, Lord! I have to admit to being slightly out of touch with mongerflation, then!
Can you please provide contact info for the 300p taxi service?I would love to, but that would probably make it even more difficult to book my favorite mongertels, already suffering under severe pressure from returning pussy addicts.
But it's clearly attainable, let me assure you.
BTW I think even at 300p it's a rip off!Amen. But we are subject to this BS because those five day millionaires don't give a flying f about anything. The problem with pinoys is, once they get away with charging kanos a new, higher amount, they will ask it from all of them.
KyCuriosity
08-22-12, 15:57
I'm planing a trip to Philippines this coming March and would like to know if any one has info on what flights or airlines are better, I have been in Angeles a lot of times but was traveling from places like Korea or Japan and now I'll be flying out of Dallas.You will get a lot of different answers. I've looked at a lot of travel websites to find prices but after all is said and done, I'm going to stick with the classic websites (expedia and Momondo. Com) I'm also planning a trip in March. Based off suggestions on ISG, I'm booking a flight directly to Clark. The airport code is CRK. Don't fly with delta because they only have 747's flying into PI. I look for flights with asiana because they are still cheap and they use the 777 to fly to Korea then an airbus to fly to CRK. I'm booking through Expedia because you can still get travel insurance for all flights through them.
I'm flying from the US in March and the price is still about $1350 before the $30 flight insurance. That's flying through Chicago, Seoul, and Clark. Make sure you book as soon as possible. The prices start going up at least 8 weeks before the flight is scheduled.
Fast Eddie 48
08-22-12, 22:12
Just flew in and out of there. Was a breeze. Not much going on in the airport as far as food and services, but great access point to AC with cheap and simple flights, no lines on entering and exiting the country. No hassles at all. 1 minute walk to taxi stand, catch one to town 400-500 pesos. 10 minutes or less ride.
Much better than Manila IMHO if Angeles is your final destination, but then again, the greyhound terminal in NYC is probably better than Manila airport which is indeed one of the worst in the world, rivaling NYC's crumbling offerings of LGA and JFK.To Rick Rock.
I agree the NYC Greyhound station is better you can get a decent cup of coffee and some where you can sit down try to find a place to sit down at the NAIA airport before the Immgration.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
08-22-12, 22:39
I'm planing a trip to Philippines this coming March and would like to know if any one has info on what flights or airlines are better, I have been in Angeles a lot of times but was traveling from places like Korea or Japan and now I'll be flying out of Dallas.To Dflostrife.
If you are in the big D fly Cathay pacific from LA or SFO to HKG you can fly to Manila on Cathay or fly cebu pacific or tiger air from HKG or Macau OR just fly to Manila and take a bus or Taxi to AC.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
08-22-12, 22:45
It is far better to travel at night when the roads are quiet as I learned, I supose this is common sense. Can't recall how long it took, felt way quicker than traveling daytime that's for sure. Buses leave every twenty minutes or so. I travelled with (see image) 143p one way.To Noddy.
I like the Victory Liner better the Express is faster to DAU cost 175 peso is a better bus and seat, Phi Rabbit are older bus it stop at Dau first and then to Angeles main bus station but you can ask the driver to drop you off at Field corner of Mc Arthur HWY but I would not take bus at night chance of getting rob.
Fast Eddie 48
Key Master
08-23-12, 10:39
To Dflostrife.
If you are in the big D fly Cathay pacific from LA or SFO to HKG you can fly to Manila on Cathay or fly cebu pacific or tiger air from HKG or Macau OR just fly to Manila and take a bus or Taxi to AC.
Fast Eddie 48Cathay flies to Clark Angeles from Hong Kong on it's sister or subsidiary airline, Dragon Air but their flight is once in early morning around 755 am from Hong Kong and don't think it's 7 days a week. Can be booked on their website. Hopefully they will be successful with this route. It's bare bones.
but I would not take bus at night chance of getting rob.
Fast Eddie 48I'll second that.
The most vulnerable time for a traveler is when he is going from the airport to the hotel and vice versa because this is the time he is carrying everything with him, passport credit cards, cash, laptop etc.
Imagine loosing them all at once. Too bad. I prefer to spend 50 bucks or so on a limo than not being able to prove who I am to the authorities later on.
Screaming Beaver
08-23-12, 16:00
Cathay flies to Clark Angeles from Hong Kong on it's sister or subsidiary airline, Dragon Air but their flight is once in early morning around 755 am from Hong Kong and don't think it's 7 days a week. Can be booked on their website. Hopefully they will be successful with this route. It's bare bones.Correct. At this time Dragonair is not flying into and out of Clark on Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays. However, they are slowly ramping up to fly into CRK one time per day. The price is about the same with Cathay whether you fly into CRK or MNL.
At Forbidden City I had the waitress . pull down an attractive woman, with rather comely fashioned breasts, off the stage to sit down beside me . (attractive woman) said . she hated working at the club and did it merely to support her child.Code language,"I am looking for a Sponsor". Don't do it Luga', otherwise you will not be able to afford travel and thus post your entertaining reports. Anyway, small parts of your reports are entertaining, small parts. Don't join her Sponsorship Club. Also, you'd have to give her kid credit for the "comely fashioned breasts". Code language for drooping breasts.
At first I thought you were writing from the Philippines, now I see you are writing weeks afterwards from the USA. Does it take that long to cook up what are relatively small reports? No collaborating photo's? Anyway, providing you raise the bar with your embellishments, I will remain one of your biggest fans, not.
Punter 127
08-24-12, 01:08
Airphil Express also flys HKG to CRK and CRK to HKG three days a week.
http://www.airphilexpress.com
You can down load (pdf) flight schedule here.
http://www.airphilexpress.com/uploads/pdf/DFS080912.pdf
BrainDrain
08-24-12, 02:25
Airphil Express also flys HKG to CRK and CRK to HKG three days a week.
http://www.airphilexpress.com
You can down load (pdf) flight schedule here.
http://www.airphilexpress.com/uploads/pdf/DFS080912.pdfI flew Airphils express earlier this year. Bright and bubbly flight attendants. They were dressed in nice short shorts, which I found nice to enjoy as inflight entertainment.
Airphil Express also flys HKG to CRK and CRK to HKG three days a week.
http://www.airphilexpress.com
You can down load (pdf) flight schedule here.
http://www.airphilexpress.com/uploads/pdf/DFS080912.pdfFirst time I hear about this airline. Good to know their existence although they are not flying to / from BKK yet. But another alternative for domestic for me.
Thanks
I think 300 a day is above average. Was her cashier job in Manila?
Regardless, she's probably making a lot more now. Working as an exotic dancer seems a bit different than working as a factory worker.
I'll also say that comparing a bad job in the 1st world with a bad job in the 3rd world doesn't really work, nor should you compare opportunities in 1900 and opportunities in 2012. Maslow's theory of needs would be in order here. X.
At Forbidden City I had the waitress, that just declined my offer for a bar fine, to pull down an attractive woman, with rather comely fashioned breasts, off the stage to sit down beside me and have a drink. When she arrived I stood up, shook her hand, and told her she could order whatever drink she wanted. She introduced herself as Cassandra and she said that she had a kid and was divorced; her 28-year-old husband left her and her child. Before she started working at Forbidden City she had worked as a cashier at gas station for 300 pesos a day. She hated working at the club and did it merely to support her child.
Whenever I explain such a situation to my friends back in the States I bring up the idea that it has only been recent in human history- at the beginning of the industrial age and even by 1900 90% of the world lived on subsistence income—that humans could ever hope to do anything but work in a menial labor job that was both boring and bereft of gratification. More recently, primarily in the postindustrial nations, could humans actually expect to be able to work in a career that was actually gratifying. I assume most of the women working in the bars in Angeles City considered sucking dick and fucking strange and, more often than not, unattractive men as analogous to working in a menial labor job such as a factory, dull and without an iota of self-gratification. Cassandra was the quintessential example of a laborer performing the unrewarding work that most of humanity had performed since the Neolithic Revolution and would keep on performing. A few weeks after I got back from the Philippines she sent me an e-mail on Facebook in which she said, 'It is a really shit life here. ' Regardless, there really wasn't much I could to do to change the economic plight of the world, though traveling to such developing countries as the Philippines certainly makes me appreciate how fortunate I really am, notwithstanding the sexual prison that I endure in the United States.
. ' Regardless, there really wasn't much I could to do to change the economic plight of the world, though traveling to such developing countries as the Philippines certainly makes me appreciate how fortunate I really am, notwithstanding the sexual prison that I endure in the United States.There is some kind of "being easy approach to sex" and also a degree of sexual appetite from the philipina (and a bit else where in Asia even if less substantial) , but there is also a quota of "a way to assure an income" factor. This is why western world sometime seems a sex prison, adding the prude and moral factors. Seems a contradiction as Philippines is a much catholic related country and still the approach to sex seems quite easy going. I don't mean the whole female country population is made of numoho or hookers, of course.
Thanks, Punter.
I did not know about this airlines either. Are the fares similar to Cebu Pacific?
Airphil Express also flys HKG to CRK and CRK to HKG three days a week.
http://www.airphilexpress.com
You can down load (pdf) flight schedule here.
http://www.airphilexpress.com/uploads/pdf/DFS080912.pdf
BrainDrain
08-25-12, 00:06
I'll also say that comparing a bad job in the 1st world with a bad job in the 3rd world doesn't really work, nor should you compare opportunities in 1900 and opportunities in 2012. Maslow's theory of needs would be in order here. X.I was ignoring Lugalzaggizi Drivel but do appreciate XMan and Bionicman's insights. As for Maslow I can certainly see that my western staff work for self-actualisation but in many cases the Filipino workers are still a few layers down, subsisting with family and foods.
There is some kind of "being easy approach to sex" and also a degree of sexual appetite from the philipina (and a bit else where in Asia even if less substantial) , but there is also a quota of "a way to assure an income" factor. This is why western world sometime seems a sex prison, adding the prude and moral factors. Seems a contradiction as Philippines is a much catholic related country and still the approach to sex seems quite easy going. I don't mean the whole female country population is made of numoho or hookers, of course.The AC thread is probably not the right place for hooker philosophy but I can't stay out of it.
The reason the USA is a sex prison is because the women (here) were given the right to vote and a year or 2 later prostitution became illegal. That ain't no coincidence. Since then (1914 or so) the women here have aggressively sought power and have been very successful. The big change was in the sixties w/"The Pill". That gave women freedom from unwanted pregnancies which leads to freedom from the old family structure. Now women here are police officers (quite useless) , firefighters (again quite useless) all in the name of gender equality. When I was a kid the newsman on TV said the news, now the co-anchors (man and women) share sentences. So what I am saying is, this place,"The USA" is no longer a source of logical behavior. Modern reality (here) is based on gender balance wether it is good or bad, w / no regard for reality and logic.
Is p4p bad for humans or is it just part of reality? Is reality good or bad? Is there only one reality or two? Would it be good for all mankind if tomorrow (some) men did not need sexual contact. I say some men because NATURE made us all different. My loose guess based on my observations in life is 20% of all men are celibate, and 20% are hard wired to fuck A LOT, and the 60% in the middle have an average sexual appetite. One of these groups have NO RIGHT to demand the other change and yet that is how US society is. And w / woman power on the rise things will only get more repressive for the American male. The American male has himself to blame for this and where it will lead is probably not good.
The ladies in PI have a choice to work in this business or not. As long as they are not forced to fuck every guy and have a choice in their jobs, they are free to leave. Some do, some don't. American women are not free to make these kinds of choices and if they were allowed to there would be a stampede to the market place.
I always thought women were less sexed than men but traveling to Asia and other free countries has changed my mind. I think the numbers, (above) for men are the same for women.
My feeling is there are 2 worlds going on simultaneously, the human one and the natural one. In the human world legal age varies from one country to the next, in the USA, one state to the other. In the natural world (legal does not exist) it is the same worldwide. Sex is not only for procreation, it is natures tool for the weaker sex. Plain and simple, p4p is a positive as long as humans respect each other regardless of station in life. That's my 2 pesos and this (my philosophy) is why I always promote respect to the sex worker and their countrymen. This way the monger can't loose, bottom line, hehe. I'm a monger and I want spread the wealth and enjoy natures delights. LIKE I'm SUPPOSED TO.
Is p4p bad for humans or is it just part of reality? Is reality good or bad?Every married guy I knows says "you pay for it anyways when you're married" so you might as well pay for it outside of marriage. In the long run it's a lot cheaper!
Meanwhile has anyone spotted any slim and stacked little brown angels in the City of Angels? Do tell. I will be flying in from Kuala Lumpur Oct 17 until Oct 19 in case anyone wants to wing it with me I'll be staying at Orchid Inn.
Cheers
Every married guy I knows says "you pay for it anyways when you're married" so you might as well pay for it outside of marriage. In the long run it's a lot cheaper!
CheersI remember a married friend telling me that married men pay for it, just as single men do. But once married, the cost continues, but the sex.
As the old joke goes, the reason the bride is smiling is that she's given her last BJ. (yeah I know, not all women turn into nuns at the alter.)
In my 20s I weighed up the advantages / disadvantages to being single. At 48, I've still not regretted staying single! No monthly aggro, no problem children and no buying a house for the next man. Win!
8)
WestCoast1
08-26-12, 16:01
As the old joke goes, the reason the bride is smiling is that she's given her last BJ. (yeah I know, not all women turn into nuns at the alter.)Scientists have discovered a substance that completely destroys a woman's sexuality: wedding cake.
Sir Lancelot
08-26-12, 18:05
Every married guy I knows says "you pay for it anyways when you're married" so you might as well pay for it outside of marriage. In the long run it's a lot cheaper!
Meanwhile has anyone spotted any slim and stacked little brown angels in the City of Angels? Do tell. I will be flying in from Kuala Lumpur Oct 17 until Oct 19 in case anyone wants to wing it with me I'll be staying at Orchid Inn.
CheersD Cups, I spent a couple of weeks in Angeles in March. I'd highly recommend any fellow boob-lover to go to Insomnia. It's not on Fields Avenue itself, it's just a short walk from the 'Walking Street' sign, near Hotel Natalia. There seemed to be lots of top-heavy lovelies in there. Maybe it's a policy of the owners? .
I bar-fined one of them. She had fair hair, a slim body and her tits were a real handful. She has Jennifer tattooed on to her back and proved to be one of the best girls of my trip. I've got photos and a phone number if you want to drop me a line.
The bar-fine was cheap and the bar is convenient to Orchid Inn. I had it recommended to me as 'the best bar in Angeles' from the British manager of one of the big bars and I'd certainly put it in my top five.
Insomnia. Jennifer .certainly put it in my top five.Sir L: thank you very much! Please see PM.
Punter 127
08-26-12, 22:49
Thanks, Punter.
I did not know about this airlines either. Are the fares similar to Cebu Pacific?Yes they're similar, sometimes AirPhil is less than Cebu Pacific and other times they're higher, look for the promos.
From Cebu I like to fly to Clark on AirPhil and back on Cebu Pacific, because of the flight times. The AirPhil flight is in the morning and the Cebu Pacific flight is in the evening. There are no cost advantages to buying round trip tickets on these carriers.
Good to know. Thanks, Punter.
[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1319875]Yes they're similar, sometimes AirPhil is less than Cebu Pacific and other times they're higher, look for the promos.
For those who like Angeles, I am dying of curiosity about something. I have been to an area where nice province girls without an attitude nor much mileage where it was quite safe to screw the bargirls
And splooage in their nice smooth clean little pussies.
Then I get PM's from too many guys who caught something from the bargirls in Cebu.
I hear Angeles is a mongers paradise, but isn't it better to do to the free dating sights and just lien up half a dozen non bar girls and do them one at a time each day and not worrying about whether their pussies taste like some other guys spunk? Why go raincoat with high milage Angeles bargirls when you can go natural with freebies and just treat them nice? I like to look too and pic from the hot ones, but not if it means risking something or having to wear a bulletproof armor and no DATY. Hell, there is even throat chlamydia. What do you all think?
Yes they're similar, sometimes AirPhil is less than Cebu Pacific and other times they're higher, look for the promos.
From Cebu I like to fly to Clark on AirPhil and back on Cebu Pacific, because of the flight times. The AirPhil flight is in the morning and the Cebu Pacific flight is in the evening. There are no cost advantages to buying round trip tickets on these carriers.Air Phil is a subsidiary of Philippines Airlines that does domestic routes. I have flown them many times and have had no problems whatsoever. Anything but Cebu Pacific.
WestCoast1
08-27-12, 03:39
For those who like Angeles, I am dying of curiosity about something. I have been to an area where nice province girls without an attitude nor much mileage where it was quite safe to screw the bargirls
Then I get PM's from too many guys who caught something from the bargirls in Cebu.
I hear Angeles is a mongers paradise, but isn't it better to do to the free dating sights and just lien up half a dozen non bar girls and do them one at a time each day and not worrying about whether their pussies taste like some other guys spunk? Why go raincoat with high milage Angeles bargirls when you can go natural with freebies and just treat them nice? I like to look too and pic from the hot ones, but not if it means risking something or having to wear a bulletproof armor and no DATY. Hell, there is even throat chlamydia. What do you all think?First, the advantage of bargirls is simple. A bunch of hotties in one place who are dying to get a barfine. No muss, no fuss, no waiting. Like buying candy. The disadvantage of the dating site chatmate is that she is hit-and-miss. Many agree to sex while in chat, then disappear when you are in town.
Next up, Sopwith. I read your approx 35 posts. In almost every one, you ask questions. Little more than this. Not a single substantive field report. Also, pay up a membership (I would have PM'd this) :
* Any mongering opportunities there? Local regular freebie girls?
* Can people list the names of decent hotels up to Western standards that won't have a friggin cow when I bring a girl back?
* Can anyone recommend any places that won't break the bank that are open late for. ?
* How was the girl hunting in Davao?
* Does anyone have some ideas on where to go in Cebu City and Manila where one?
* Can anyone recommend some upscale hotels, not resorts?
* What bars would you all recommend in the Ermita area but where the girls wear small bikinis on stage so one can check out their figures first?
* Where is the Sogo Motel near the Manila airport?
And so on. You have been in / out of phils previously. You can do better than that. Please bless us with some descriptive FR's.
. SNIP. .
Why go raincoat with high milage Angeles bargirls when you can go natural with freebies and just treat them nice? I like to look too and pic from the hot ones, but not if it means risking something or having to wear a bulletproof armor and no DATY. Hell, there is even throat chlamydia. What do you all think?Are you vasectomised Sopwith? If so, no need to read further.
If not, then your predilection to fill up innocent and naive girls' pussies with your unprotected and presumably live semen is quite unfair and exploiting their ignorance and innocence.
As has been mentioned here countless times and as I know at first hand from my work here, the girls have no understanding of how their bodies work and especially when they are most fertile. We must not assume that they KNOW simply because they agree to have bareback sex with you, and it is a callous attitude to say that it is their problem if they get pregnant since they are willing to work in a bar.
Just an extra point. If she has only ever been with one or two other guys, she could still be harboring a nasty just for you. Despite what Gangles says elsewhere about statistics, catching an STD is not a risk you want to take.
FreebieFan
08-27-12, 07:04
[QUOTE=VaderBule; 1319675.
Into nuns at the alter.)
In my 20s I weighed up the advantages / disadvantages to being single. At 48, I've still not regretted staying single! No monthly aggro, no problem children and no buying a house for the next man. Win!
8) [/QUOTE]There are many of us here that probalby wouldn't agree with you, and a few that would. Theres a certain pleasure at seeing your kids grow and develop and become men and women in their own right, but still demonstrating the values you taught them. Theres a certain sense of accomplishment as parents at seeing your life evolve, change and develop as you and your partner grow and age. Yes I monger, but yes I'm glad I'm married and my Filipina wife has beenb a fabulous partner for the past 25 years. I've not regretted having been married (except perhaps for a few days during a few intense fights, probably caused by myself LOL)
Wicked Roger
08-27-12, 07:12
Next up, Sopwith. I read your approx 35 posts. In almost every one, you ask questions. Little more than this. Not a single substantive field report. Also, pay up a membership (I would have PM'd this) :
And so on. You have been in / out of phils previously. You can do better than that. Please bless us with some descriptive FR's.You put it so nicely WC. Seems Sopwith has a PM facility. Maybe he got it recently which begs the question of how could he have received so many PMs from members beforehand?
Sopwith. Please share with all the guys who got the nasties in Cebu and / or which bars as that is relevant information to all rather than the inane rubbish that WC clearly summised in his FR. No one to date has mention about nasties in Cebu in any thread so please share based on your vast experience the bars etc so the mongers are warned...or do you not share as maybe you have not really been to the Philippines?
And please stop asking childish questions.
For those who like Angeles, I am dying of curiosity about something. I have been to an area where nice province girls without an attitude nor much mileage where it was quite safe to screw the bargirls
And splooage in their nice smooth clean little pussies.
Then I get PM's from too many guys who caught something from the bargirls in Cebu.
I hear Angeles is a mongers paradise, but isn't it better to do to the free dating sights and just lien up half a dozen non bar girls and do them one at a time each day and not worrying about whether their pussies taste like some other guys spunk? Why go raincoat with high milage Angeles bargirls when you can go natural with freebies and just treat them nice? I like to look too and pic from the hot ones, but not if it means risking something or having to wear a bulletproof armor and no DATY. Hell, there is even throat chlamydia. What do you all think?I think you need to get your ass to AC and then talk. There is plenty of bar girls that are nothing like you imagine them to be. As WC explained other parts of fils are hit and miss. Beside Manila and Cebu you may find it harder then you think to line up 2 or 3 let alone 5 or 6 over a short period of time. Who knows maybe you have weeks and weeks to invest in this but most of us have lifes where we earn money and then come and actually enjoy our time in Phils instead of just imagining what it would be like.
In my 20s I weighed up the advantages / disadvantages to being single. At 48, I've still not regretted staying single! No monthly aggro, no problem children and no buying a house for the next man. Win!Exactly same here, happy without wife at age 51 now!
Hi guys, after being member for a while, and not really posting allot, ill do some tripreports soon.
I'm flying to Clarck airport tomorrow, I have 14 days to spend in Phillipines.
I'm travelling by myself, and I'm not sure how its going to be over there. (I heard some storys about criminality, and its my first time in these kind of bars)
So I was wondering if there are some people that want to meet up. To get my trough my first night. And tell me the do's and don't s. How it all works.
Anyway, I'm an 25 year old dutch guy, attractive type.
Greets
Member #4152
08-27-12, 19:09
For those who like Angeles, I am dying of curiosity about something. I have been to an area where nice province girls without an attitude nor much mileage where it was quite safe to screw the bargirls
And splooage in their nice smooth clean little pussies.
Then I get PM's from too many guys who caught something from the bargirls in Cebu.
I hear Angeles is a mongers paradise, but isn't it better to do to the free dating sights and just lien up half a dozen non bar girls and do them one at a time each day and not worrying about whether their pussies taste like some other guys spunk? Why go raincoat with high milage Angeles bargirls when you can go natural with freebies and just treat them nice? I like to look too and pic from the hot ones, but not if it means risking something or having to wear a bulletproof armor and no DATY. Hell, there is even throat chlamydia. What do you all think?It's not just about the sex for me when I go to Angeles. I go for the variety of thousands of different girls to choose from on the spot. You can also grab as many as you want at the same time. I also go for the go go bar experience and different watering holes. I enjoy meeting fellow mongers while in Angeles and having a few drinks with them too. You could almost call Angeles an adult males version of Disney Land!
Exactly same here, happy without wife at age 51 now!Stoooooop it, pleas stoooooop all this! Or you will be charged for instigating lots of wife murders, LMAO.
BTW, how is Philippines on extradition?
Fast Eddie 48
08-27-12, 22:12
It's not just about the sex for me when I go to Angeles. I go for the variety of thousands of different girls to choose from on the spot. You can also grab as many as you want at the same time. I also go for the go go bar experience and different watering holes. I enjoy meeting fellow mongers while in Angeles and having a few drinks with them too. You could almost call Angeles an adult males version of Disney Land!To YG365.
If you don't pick up girl for sex then what the hell for just to go drinking with the girl, are you one of those old guy that cannot get it up anymore.
Fast Eddie 48
There is the often stated myth of women "faking" orgasms. That is actually impossible to do. Period. I have heard men offering proof aplenty of orgasm by observing women's vocal expressions, body twitching, writhing in general, spasms, heavy breathing, engorged vagina and clit etc. Yet there is only one 100% surefire way to tell if an orgasm is indeed occurring. In fact, all human beings have the exact same response during all orgasms. The sphincter contracts and pulsates each and every time.
So. If the guy has his finger even lightly on her anus or the tip of the finger inside (no real need to penetrate very far) the response is unmistakable (and impossible to fake). And the same if she is touching the man's backdoor.
For maximum affect the index finger is inserted not too far. Maybe to the first knuckle (and fingernails must be trimmed to the shortest length possible) it usually prompts the orgasm if done at the right time and in the right manner."Gentle and slow" is the key concept here. Not rough and aggressive as this can be alarming for the woman. Light stroking before any insertion, etc.
I am rather amazed that I have never seen this discussed anywhere. Ever. Hmmm.
One of the most pleasurable acts in sex to me is making the woman come and feeling her pulsating asshole. Perhaps one of my favorite things is when I stimulate her clitoris manually and probe and lick her ass with my tongue and then insert it fully and feel her anus strongly grip my tongue as she is coming. And likewise when she is doing the same to me. Heaven indeed and especially when another woman is sucking my cock at the same time."Double Trouble" I call it.
No man on Earth can withstand that onslaught for more than a few minutes. Two talented tongues drilling toward each other right through your center. Wow.
Obviously ultra-cleanliness is in order for the above. I always use copious amounts of soap and do the cleaning myself on both of us (really really clean). This will last maybe an hour of activity after showering to be guaranteed of no accidents. I aint never had nary a problem with hundreds of women. They might be a bit surprised at first (especially when in the shower cleaning, etc.) but all surrender to the intense pleasure that this activity inevitably delivers.
Not much is more intimate than exploring each others assholes with tongues and lips. If you haven't tried it give it a go and see what happens. You'll thank me. Any thoughts on the above? Others have noticed this for sure.
GosiwonBusan
08-28-12, 04:10
Travelling on my own to AC Sept 9. Anyone want to hang out for a beer let me know.
British 30's. PM me.
Member #4152
08-28-12, 05:32
To YG365.
If you don't pick up girl for sex then what the hell for just to go drinking with the girl, are you one of those old guy that cannot get it up anymore.
Fast Eddie 48Naw man. I actually love sex and pick up girls every chance I get. I'm in my late 20's and enjoying my life while I'm in my prime! What I meant was that I could always get girls all over the place like here in the US, Korea, Europe, Central America, etc. What makes the Angeles and the Philippines different is the other mongers that you can talk to and hang out with. In other countries like Thailand, all I found was Russian and Europeans. You can't just have sex all day. On the down time, you got to find other things to do.
How'd you get the nickname Fast Eddie BTW?
WestCoast1
08-28-12, 06:49
So. If the guy has his finger even lightly on her anus or the tip of the finger inside (no real need to penetrate very far) the response is unmistakable (and impossible to fake). And the same if she is touching the man's backdoor.Really. Any actual proof of that? Never seen it written up in the medical journals as impossible to fake. What's to prevent a woman or man from simply contracting his / her sphincter muscles to fake it?
For maximum affect the index finger is inserted not too far. Maybe to the first knuckle (and fingernails must be trimmed to the shortest length possible) it usually prompts the orgasm if done at the right time and in the right manner."Gentle and slow" is the key concept here. Not rough and aggressive as this can be alarming for the woman. Light stroking before any insertion, etc.Or, your partner doesn't like anal sex (or is afraid of it) , and you freak her out by doing that, to the point that he / she jumps off the bed and runs away.
I am rather amazed that I have never seen this discussed anywhere. Ever. Hmmm.Tell your doctor your theory.
One of the most pleasurable acts in sex to me is making the woman come and feeling her pulsating asshole. Perhaps one of my favorite things is when I stimulate her clitoris manually and probe and lick her ass with my tongue and then insert it fully and feel her anus strongly grip my tongue as she is coming. And likewise when she is doing the same to me. Heaven indeed and especially when another woman is sucking my cock at the same time."Double Trouble" I call it.
No man on Earth can withstand that onslaught for more than a few minutes. Two talented tongues drilling toward each other right through your center. Wow.I've had this. Does nothing for me. On the other hand, I've hammered oodles of pinay's rumps. Makes them walk funny for a few hours.
You'll thank me. Any thoughts on the above? Others have noticed this for sure.Ya, thanks. So many others have noticed this that we have a special thread just for it. Just look for it. No, not in THAT forum. But you're warm. Keep looking.
I have written elsewhere in the forum about my anal experiment. I can't remember how it started, maybe curiosity on my part. But I set out to investigate whether the majority of women liked to have something in their arse while they sexed. So, with just about every woman that I have sexed since, maybe 40 or 50, I have tested to see if they enjoy somehing in their arse while making love. Almost all of these women are regular ladies, non pro, and have never had any anal experience. So in most cases, it has been a process of ample lubrication, quite a lot of stroking around her anus, and then slight pressure at the opening. With some round and round motion, eventually, she is penetrated; then it is a matter of determining how far she wants me to go.
There is a very thin wall between the rectum and the vagina. What I have found is that the great majority of women respond positively, or very positively, to being stroked in the rectum while I sex them. Usually it involves one finger, usually my forefinger, in past the knuckle. If I stroke forward with my finger tip, I am rubbing my cock, while it is stroking in and out. And she can feel it too. A few times my finger has been replaced with a vibrator, or a butt plug. I have found that the experience enhances her enjoyment and satisfaction, and mine too. On some occasions, her reaction has been spectacular.
A few women will only take a short penetration, or none at all.
So Melted, I tend to agree with your discovery. I can see a PhD thesis coming out of this topic.
G
There is the often stated myth of women "faking" orgasms. That is actually impossible to do. Period. I have heard men offering proof aplenty of orgasm by observing women's vocal expressions, body twitching, writhing in general, spasms, heavy breathing, engorged vagina and clit etc. Yet there is only one 100% surefire way to tell if an orgasm is indeed occurring. In fact, all human beings have the exact same response during all orgasms. The sphincter contracts and pulsates each and every time.
So. If the guy has his finger even lightly on her anus or the tip of the finger inside (no real need to penetrate very far) the response is unmistakable (and impossible to fake). And the same if she is touching the man's backdoor.
For maximum affect the index finger is inserted not too far. Maybe to the first knuckle (and fingernails must be trimmed to the shortest length possible) it usually prompts the orgasm if done at the right time and in the right manner."Gentle and slow" is the key concept here. Not rough and aggressive as this can be alarming for the woman. Light stroking before any insertion, etc.
I am rather amazed that I have never seen this discussed anywhere. Ever. Hmmm.
One of the most pleasurable acts in sex to me is making the woman come and feeling her pulsating asshole. Perhaps one of my favorite things is when I stimulate her clitoris manually and probe and lick her ass with my tongue and then insert it fully and feel her anus strongly grip my tongue as she is coming. And likewise when she is doing the same to me. Heaven indeed and especially when another woman is sucking my cock at the same time."Double Trouble" I call it.
No man on Earth can withstand that onslaught for more than a few minutes. Two talented tongues drilling toward each other right through your center. Wow.
Obviously ultra-cleanliness is in order for the above. I always use copious amounts of soap and do the cleaning myself on both of us (really really clean). This will last maybe an hour of activity after showering to be guaranteed of no accidents. I aint never had nary a problem with hundreds of women. They might be a bit surprised at first (especially when in the shower cleaning, etc.) but all surrender to the intense pleasure that this activity inevitably delivers.
Not much is more intimate than exploring each others assholes with tongues and lips. If you haven't tried it give it a go and see what happens. You'll thank me. Any thoughts on the above? Others have noticed this for sure.
Fast Eddie 48
08-28-12, 20:51
Naw man. I actually love sex and pick up girls every chance I get. I'm in my late 20's and enjoying my life while I'm in my prime! What I meant was that I could always get girls all over the place like here in the US, Korea, Europe, Central America, etc. What makes the Angeles and the Philippines different is the other mongers that you can talk to and hang out with. In other countries like Thailand, all I found was Russian and Europeans. You can't just have sex all day. On the down time, you got to find other things to do.
How'd you get the nickname Fast Eddie BTW?To YG.
Come on young man you are in your 20 and you can't fuck all day other than that I don't see anything esle to do in AC other than play pool or go to the mall and pick up girls.
Fast Eddie 48
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Spent 8 glorius nights in AC. Central to my stay was Phillies bar and Raymond st. Spent loads of money at the bar, the Sweeties (waitresses) will enquire your name, this is so management can see who the big spenders are LOL. I must have impressed as management came and introduced themselves to me. I only took freelancers in AC, never went in any other bar, you will be astonished to know. Did not even have time to scope out Santos st freelancers, such is the abundance in the Fields, Raymond st intersection. A number I took were off the street, and real sweeties they were. Unfortunately, went through one of my camera lazy phases, however did snap the couple below. The camera was a bit drunk, several out of focus.
KyCuriosity
08-29-12, 00:53
So, I've been sitting on this information for a while. I'm not sure how popular or unknown this particular girl is. It's a little complicated to explain but she was one of my favorites a couple years ago.
First, Has anyone seen this video on xhamster or another porn site?
http://xhamster.com/movies/973656/young_thai_girl_does_anal.html
That girl is not Thai. She is filipina and she lives in Angeles. We talked quite a long time and she "confessed" that a man took a video of her and "promised" to keep it to himself, well well well, just so surprising that the video turned up all over the internet. I wonder how that happened. (no it was not me).
I met her in Angeles, and we went out to eat and drink, she wanted to come to my hotel and stayed all night. She was fantastic, but I didn't ask about the anal in the video (still slapping my forehead). Anyways, I didn't post because I didn't think anyone would believe me but I do have a picture of us together. I lost contact with her, but I was browsing DIA today and BLAM: There she was. I found her again. We talked a while and I am trying to get another hook up with her with I visit in March or April.
So, to be fair to all my fellow ISGer's, I will help you get in contact with her directly on DIA by giving you her contact info on there, and possibly her yahoo and gmail account that she just gave me. She seems open to meeting again. Oh, and please only senior level people. I'm not giving to every single person that asks me, I don't want her overwhelmed when I visit.
Then again, maybe she's already well known with the senior people on here.
How much did you pay?
Did you generally get good service?
Did you pull them at all times of the day? Or evening only?I recieved a PM today, guess I should have provided more details in regard to Phillies bar. Freelancer rates depend on your negotiation skills and the agreement with the girl.
800 ST. 2000 LT. I lean towards ST as generally do not fancy having a girl with me too long. Just dislike their play with the obvious mobile phone or whatever gismo nowadays, people have a tendancy to just habitually stare into the screens as if I'm boring them. Rather send them on their way.
Had good service yes. One or two starfish although they had lovely young bodies, had to stop myself thrusting from behind with one girl, just to marvel at her lovely hard body, also to prolong my experience before blowing the load, she just lay there and took it.
Mostly I functioned at night, if you keep a keen eye out you will spot them strolling by daytime, a signal is all it takes and you in business.
Several girls play Poole at the bar. If you seat yourself on the corner, outdoors, you catch them in both Fields and Raymond st strolling by or hanging around on the corner. Found an absolute Sweety on the corner. Did her on two occasions. Rare. Also you have the Blow bars, Freelancers 100yrds down Raymond st. Got rather irritated with a girl who pounced on me, grinding herself on me as if on heat. I had just arrived hot and sweaty from walking a fair distance and just wanted a real cold one before playing with the girls. I guess I choked her off, did not mean too, the girl was rather hurt. Made up for it later by making her smile and bought her an Ice Cream.
Generally I keep my conversations with other punters to a minimum, however, with Phillies Bar I found an awful lot of friendly Gentlemen and did my fair share of chinwagging. Good atmosphere at Phillies and for me the spot for Angeles City Freelance hunting. If you enjoy your sport, catch a few games here.
Dreaming now of my return.
I am no expert on Angels City freelancers and never been there. But have read countless times that some of those FLs are working various scams with the local police. Your thoughts?
LOL, yes, you can meet some interesting people in AC. But I really dislike the ones who want to compain endlessly about the Philippines or Filipinos. X.
SNIP.
Generally I keep my conversations with other punters to a minimum, however, with Phillies Bar I found an awful lot of friendly Gentlemen and did my fair share of chinwagging. Good atmosphere at Phillies and for me the spot for Angeles City Freelance hunting. If you enjoy your sport, catch a few games here.
Dreaming now of my return.
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity; 1320803]So, I've been sitting on this information for a while. I'm not sure how popular or unknown this particular girl is. It's a little complicated to explain but she was one of my favorites a couple years ago.
First, Has anyone seen this video on xhamster or another porn site?
http://xhamster.com/movies/973656/young_thai_girl_does_anal.html
Mate, you do not seem to have PM, how does one communicates with you.
Ciao!
I recieved a PM today, guess I should have provided more details in regard to Phillies bar. Freelancer rates depend on your negotiation skills and the agreement with the girl.
800 ST. 2000 LT. I lean towards ST as generally do not fancy having a girl with me too long. Just dislike their play with the obvious mobile phone or whatever gismo nowadays, people have a tendancy to just habitually stare into the screens as if I'm boring them. Rather send them on their way.So you paid more for ST then barfining a girl ST from Santos, and more LT then barfining most girls from Fields. WHY?
You realise that most girls that are FL in AC are FL because they can't get work in a bar for one or another reason. Mostly that reason has a lot to do with FAILING medical or simply being crazy enough to not be employable by a bar.
Most of us pick up FL at various places around phils but in AC its just not worth the hustle thats why there is no typical FL pick up joints. Try Diamond Subdivision next time for something different if bars are not your thing.
Hey guys. Long time lurker but a bit shy with the posts.
I have been mongering in a number of different locales over the last 8 years but never made it out to AC.
Will be making my first trip at the end of January 2013, so doing some research.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the information. It doesn't get said often but its thoroughly deserved.
Cheers,
Dg1980
Muzungufotsy
08-31-12, 03:10
FLs in AC is 500p ST max and 1000p LT max.
Anyone paying more is stupid or a fool period.
KyCuriosity
08-31-12, 05:04
Mate, you do not seem to have PM, how does one communicates with you.
Ciao!I just sent you a private message. I've receive a few messages about her and I've responded. Anyone else having problems with messaging me?
I am no expert on Angels City freelancers and never been there. But have read countless times that some of those FLs are working various scams with the local police. Your thoughts?Well, I have only been to AC twice and did not have any troublesome issues JP. I'm sure some fellas have been unlucky or perhaps did not pick up the danger signs. Never really had Police issues except for Africa where they stop you for a small tip when driving. I would not be too concerned, fellas have a tendancy to blow these issues out of proportion. Mongering carries risks, if you sqeamish one should stay at home.
Mostly stay in Manila also with no issues, been more than 6 or so trips there. An even greater danger than police for me, is when the chick tells me she loves me. Let them know firmly where I stand on this issue. Poreigner Butterfly. They normally get the message.
So you paid more for ST then barfining a girl ST from Santos, and more LT then barfining most girls from Fields. WHY?This was my 2nd trip to AC. I am very doubtful if one can get away with paying anything less than 700/800ST. Hell! I'm budget minded, but this is more than reasonble. £12 LOL. Pittance. Did I destroy the market.
The 2 girls I payed 2000p LT spent more than a day with me.
You realise that most girls that are FL in AC are FL because they can't get work in a bar for one or another reason. Mostly that reason has a lot to do with FAILING medical or simply being crazy enough to not be employable by a bar.Why the concern for me Mac. It's touching. To date I have not expired. None were crazy, perhaps some were school returnees who are now senior to teacher. Still they call their junior, Sir. Really cute and respectful, huh Mac.
Most of us pick up FL at various places around phils but in AC its just not worth the hustle thats why there is no typical FL pick up joints. Try Diamond Subdivision next time for something different if bars are not your thing.Not too problematic for me Mac, that's fine leave them all to me and the brave. I love bars. Diamond Subdivision? You will have to enlighten us.
WestCoast1
08-31-12, 07:46
FLs in AC is 500p ST max and 1000p LT max.
Anyone paying more is stupid or a fool period.Respectfully, not going to agree with that. You could pay 1000 for ST, even with SW and even though Santos / Raymond gals go for 700. His 800 was not that much over. I get SW on every trip to AC. They often ask for 700-1000, but they never balk when you say 500.
This was my 2nd trip to AC. I am very doubtful if one can get away with paying anything less than 700/800ST. Hell! I'm budget minded, but this is more than reasonble. £12 LOL. Pittance. Did I destroy the market.No, not destroy. The girls on the street are fine with 500 as soon as you mention it. But they only stay for one pop.
Speaking of Phillies, on my last morning in AC, I was eating breakfast there about 8am. A honey kept passing by, fairly attractive. She would pass by every 1-2 minutes, and sometimes she'd pass with another honey, then the next pass or two the second girl was gone. I had that cheap p100 breakfast w / coffee, and finally she stopped and stared at me, and finally asked if she could have a piece of food. I gave her the last scrap (1") of food on my plate and watched her eat it."I can fuck and I have girls." Well, why didn't you SAY so? I paid the tab and walked out to meet her. Right across the way, across Raymond street, sitting at the corner, were 4 more girls, all modestly attractive. I asked them what they were doing there and they said they needed to make some money. The first gal said I could have her for 700 and two girls for 1500 (go figure, filipina math, she added 100 for the extra girl: 700+700+100). I said I wasn't horny (true) , and that I'd just returned a bargirl."Then you have two girl 1000." Well that was quick. I said no, that I'd consider taking the short one for naked pics only, no sex, for 300. She jumped up. The first girl said,"No. 400 to her." No thanks, I turned to walk up Raymond."400 only!" I turned and said 300, with 500 if I decided to sex her also."OK she go you!" And off we went, did about 25 minutes of pics, I thanked her and gave her 300.
She asks to shower and she's in there about 20 minutes. When she comes out she's got a towel on, she lays on the bed and tells me "no more pitcher, I sleep now." Talk about not getting the picture; I had to be out of the hotel by noon, so I had her dress and walked her out. There you have it: fine with even 300 for a batch of naked pics. Noddy. 300/500/700 seems fairly irrelevant to me, but even at reasonable rates like you mentioned, I think we often forget (or don't understand in the first place) what the girls expect or are willing to accept as reasonable.
The 2 girls I payed 2000p LT spent more than a day with me.Seems fair if they stay past breakfast in the morning. Guys tell me they have trouble getting a regular LT barfine to stay past sunup.
BrainDrain
08-31-12, 10:49
Arrived in AC earlier this week. On the first night I walked along Perimeter and Fields just to try and put the information of this forum into context. So many bar names, places etc. Still ealy days for me in Philippines. I also had a short list of names of Tagged ladies whom wanted to catch up.
Met up with my first Tagged lady #1. She just wanted to walk and talk which brought us around to watching TV in my hotel room. Soon after getting back to the room I popped a 50mg Viagra and let that start flowing though. Things I thought were going OK, then next thing she's out of bed, says I just want her for Sex and she leave the hotel. Over the next two days got numerous text messages telling me I was a bad person, delete her etc etc. More of how her story changes later.
Frustrated and with a raging hard-on I walk back down the road to one of the Forum's recommended bar, Insomnia. OK, the dance routines were a little repetitious. Ended up barfining Meribel. Cute little 21. They look great in their outfits (her's was black) and she said she would change. I was concerned she come back in flipflops and shorts. Soon she returns tight dress, nice heels, nice make up. A lady to have pride in. I left happy. Back in the room she was was also pleasant, a few rums on the deck, some foods for her and then down to business. She left about 6:3am.
Due to some work issues I didn't make any progress the following day and night. Just kept 4 ladies on a steady supply of text messages.
I had a little time in the afternoon and walked around. Had a pleasant drink in a nameless forgotten bar on A Santos. Friendly enough people. Had a few dates lined up for the nite so didn't stay too long.
Next day met up with Tagged girl #2. She was soon back in the room and locks the door behind herself. Only time for one lady tonight so I cut one Viagra half. She was good, nice fuck, pleasant and fun. It seems the AC girls know how to give good value. They know why we are here and they are also genuine. I had work again next day so I was happy for her to leave. She wanted to be left by a certain time. Plenty of text messages flowing before she left. I just assume she had her next date lined up.
The next night I've lined up a few things. I invite #2 back and she can be there 7-9, next lady after her work at 10pm. How good is that. I'm starting to think #2 works in a bar with a 9:30 start. On time #2 arrives and is in her usual high spirits and fun attitude. She leaves at 9 with P500. I receive a polite text from #1 from first night. She used to hate me but reminds me I owe her a chocolate. We play SMS banter for a while while I wait for Tagged #3.
Bored I head for a walk down Fields and end up in Forbidden City. P300 for lady drink plus my beer. Show was good. My lady was good fun. Not sure how the lady drink price compares to other places. I think it is good fun though. I get a petite little dancer / bar girl all over me (and me all over her) as well as a cute drinks attendant whom is also joining in the pseudo groping. By now my 10pm date is "almost there" and turns out to be an hour late. I'm still in banter with #1 from the first nite whom decides to see me at 11:30pm. I consider burning off the late girl, but sure I can fuck her and still be out in time to meet my #1. Well my idea of a quickie soon disappeared. The housemaid that turned up was about 29, tight body, tight white shirt and pink bra under. She was dressed for action. She was fantastic fuck. She wants more but I've also got this other chick hanging on. I decide to tell the housemaid I have another date, she wants to stay all night.
I turn up to meet her an hour late. She hates me again. Still concerned I just want her for sex she agrees to just meet up so I can give her the much promised block of chocolate as discussed in earlier chat messages. We just walk and chat a little and find ourselves at Trax nite club. Wow, that place is a freelancer heaven. Plenty of Korean men but also Korean girls out to party. Not sure if they were looking for middle aged sex tourists though.
Anyway, a couple of Tanduay cruisers and she is a changed woman. I was confused. Apart from the well known leg-opening effects of alcohol I was wondering if she had decided to make the best of what she had available. She is a quiet girl, attractive, a little more serious than many pinay. Out of the club, walking back past her street she says to keep going and we end up back in my hotel bed and all is good again. She is very passive. I end up falling asleep as she jut had no enthusiasm. In the morning we wake, fuck and she leaves for work. No money paid or expected. Wow.
Possibly it was almost the best fucking day of my mongering life. No, I think it was. For me 50mg Viagra gets me some serious fun.
Next day I decide it was too much juggling with those various ladies. I decide to settle for the housemaid with incredible skills. Invite her for the night and all is good.
All up, I'll leave AC a very happy monger. What better business model is there?
Hey guys. Long time lurker but a bit shy with the posts.
I have been mongering in a number of different locales over the last 8 years but never made it out to AC.
Will be making my first trip at the end of January 2013, so doing some research.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the information. It doesn't get said often but its thoroughly deserved.
Cheers,
Dg1980I get there on the 1st Feb 2013, looks to be the kindest time weather wise.
I hope to be meeting up with a friend who has been working in Macau (will be 12 months by then) , he's a regular mongerer in AC. He put me onto AC over Bali, so I'm looking forward to my first AC visit. Been to the Phils a few times but that was in the 80s with the Navy. So I've only experienced Ermita, Subic / Olongopo and Manilla in general.
VB
If you are in the Philippines or Indonesia, check the local news for tsunami warnings.
There was a 7. 6 earthquake offshore.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-31/tsunami-warning-issued-after-quake-hits-off-philippines/4237556
You have 570 posts here and you have not figured out the why the forum exists? Shame. I don't think I said anything to offend you in my post I simply tried to give you an idea and direction as to how things work considering you are obviously a newbee in AC. I appreciate you sharing your experiences and I really don't care what you are paying after all its your cash and you have the right to spend it anyway you like. Just remember like everyone here you are dodging bullets every time you take a girl out. If you don't care to minimise your risks trust me I care less. I don't bother with street meat in AC for reasons mentioned, I am there 6-7 times a year and I know lot of locals/bar/hotel owners that have told me what I mentioned here. Anyway don't mind me just remember others that like FL and do the same as you get threesomes for the same money that you are paying. Have fun and good luck, I am sure someone else can explain Diamond Subdivision to you.
My wingman pays 300 ST but he wants them for 1hr the most. This is day time and usually he picks them up at the same sports bar as you, the Mc donalds at the start of fields or at the open bar/resto near love and music. He pays 500 LT and they stay with him until he basically kicks them out the next day.
If you are in the Philippines or Indonesia, check the local news for tsunami warnings.
There was a 7. 6 earthquake offshore.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-31/tsunami-warning-issued-after-quake-hits-off-philippines/4237556Looks like it was only 15-16cm high, so warning over.
Seems fair if they stay past breakfast in the morning. Guys tell me they have trouble getting a regular LT barfine to stay past sunup.Forget about what others say does it happen to you or ANYONE on this forum. Can we discuss this, how often it happens because I believe its just another muth.
From the 100's I have taken out over the last 10yrs or so I have had only TWO requests to leave earlier then I wanted them to do so. One lady had a service at 6am to DAU and was hell bend on leaving even though I offered my driver to take her to dau latter. She did the same with my friend who took her next time we were in AC so I think she is either telling the truth and probably has a regular job / school. 2nd was a MILF who had a babysitter arranged up to 9AM. She was a great lay and I wanted her to stick around for longer but like the first one she had to go so I let her do so. Thats 2 in I would say around 300-400 bfs. I normally ask before the barfine if they have to go home and if they are local. I do this maybe 70-80% of the time, at times I just get a postitive vibe and I don't even bother asking. Althought others will argue this I think staying in nice hotel helps but even when I have stayed in shithouses its been the same which is contradicting I know but I feel like when in nicer place its lot easier.
Wicked Roger
09-01-12, 01:24
If you are in the Philippines or Indonesia, check the local news for tsunami warnings.
There was a 7. 6 earthquake offshore.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-31/tsunami-warning-issued-after-quake-hits-off-philippines/4237556All quiet now and all the panic over. Was in Cebu and the ground stareted to sway and rock gently. People, started running all over the place while I sat and contnued eating with my cutie. Told her to be calm and best place to be was safe in bed. So best we return to the hotel.
Was very mild quake IMHO. Given that I have been in other far worse earthquakes in other parts of the world this was a tiddler for Cebu unlike the previous one.
More damage in East Samar though
Wicked Roger
09-01-12, 01:30
Forget about what others say does it happen to you or ANYONE on this forum. Can we discuss this, how often it happens because I believe its just another muth.
Althought others will argue this I think staying in nice hotel helps but even when I have stayed in shithouses its been the same which is contradicting I know but I feel like when in nicer place its lot easier.I agree with you McD.
Rare that it ever happens and if so a genuine reason. Most like to stay in a nice hotel and have breakfast. Some order a huge breakfast and then box to take home.
Now in other parts of the world (for example, UAE and with Russian / CIS ladies in particular) my friends have always had major problems (the girls bugger off when the guys are asleep and sometimes steal as well).
In PI the ladies like to stay IMHO and sometimes there are issues in getting them to leave before the next one arrives.
So if the girl wants to go early maybe she does not like the man. But is too 'ashamed and shy' to say anything about his attitude etc
Couple images of a quiet night on Fields.
WestCoast1
09-01-12, 15:11
Forget about what others say does it happen to you or ANYONE on this forum. Can we discuss this, how often it happens because I believe its just another muth.My experience is similar to yours and WR. Over the years, they have only run at sunup on occasion (and I've had several who either left right after the first pop, or wanted to). However, on my last 3 AC visits, I've sat at Kok's or Phillies and met multiple gents who complained bitterly of being in town for several weeks, and all of their girls getting the F out of the room at sunup. Comments were like: "Man I've had a dozen girls and not one has stayed into the morning. Its a pissoff you get her from the bar at 2am. Then buy her something to eat and go for a drink somewhere. THEN at 6am she's telling me about getting home to her son and I payed a 3000 barfine." Really fella, ALL of them?"Ya I have the worst &$% luck." For some gents, this is how they see AC. In June of 2010, a gent at Kokomo's was telling me a similar tale (think I reported it here) , saying it was his virgin trip to AC, he's planned a month's trip there, he'd found a cheap long-term rate at a hotel. He'd been there for 3 weeks, taken a girl most nights, and every girl either ran after the first pop or left at sunup; and he was never coming back to AC. He seemed like a nice chap in talking over a late lunch (and not pangit) ; I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?
Wicked Roger
09-01-12, 16:08
Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?Maybe as he was staying at a cheap long term hotel. Girls do notice these things regardless of their social status. Girl I know in Cebu says that some oif the Japanese / Koreans may pay well but they stay in s*tholes. So they want to get out of there as fast as possible.
Now. If you have a reasonable hotel or better they like to stay for breakfast. Although at times when the guest brings the LB to breakfast (as reported before) you may wish they did leave at 6am LOL
ThatGuy865
09-01-12, 16:54
I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?Guys often seem great to other guys, the guy isn't paying to fuck us. So he doesn't have expectation / demands. But the way SOME guys treat the bar girls. Is much different.
I'd say anyone who is in AC on a LONG term and MOST of the girls are runners has a significant problem.
These girls sleep / live in the miserable conditions. Many on bunk beds with no mattress, just the slates. Or the floor. No AC. Probably no music or TV. No hot water, and ramen noodles for breakfast on a GOOD day.
If a guy treats the girl with the least bit of a decent / nice way and she does NOT have a legitimate Reason to leave.
99% would not leave a comfortable bed, able to watch TV (their favorite pass time) , a HOT Shower, possible breakfast and / or a GOOD tip in the morning.
One or two girls leave. Sure. There will always be a girl or two that just might not vibe with a guy no matter what.
But when it becomes the MAJORITY of the girls you take, especially with the conditions they live. The guy need to look at himself and the way he treats the girls.
WestCoast1
09-01-12, 22:04
Maybe as he was staying at a cheap long term hotel. Girls do notice these things regardless of their social status. Girl I know in Cebu says that some oif the Japanese / Koreans may pay well but they stay in s*tholes. So they want to get out of there as fast as possible.I can fall for some of that Roger. The hotel can make a difference. But not all of the time, and not with a dozen girls straight. I've stayed in nice places, average places, and sh*tholes, and I've had girls sleep in and then stay for late breakfast and the mall and the afternoon at all of those (and some have left at sunup). AC bargirls are usually provincial girls who are used to living in a sh*thole. Another mistake gents make (or not, depending on your outlook) is that they don't make clear the expectation (say, she stays until 9am, or such) before barfining the girl.
Llantarnam
09-01-12, 23:29
The last time I was in Manila (which was a long, long time ago) many of the dancing bargirls were topless on stage. I will be in Angeles City at the end of the year and was wondering if I am likely to see any topless performances by the Fields Avenue girls?
Arrived in AC earlier this week. On the first night I walked along Perimeter and Fields just to try and put the information of this forum into context. So many bar names, places etc. Still ealy days for me in Philippines. I also had a short list of names of Tagged ladies whom wanted to catch up.I tried to PM you but couldn't. I will be there again in October and have been unsuccessful getting contacts so far through Tagged. Mind sharing their Tagged I'd's and housemaid's contact?
Hope you can PM me.
Sir Lancelot
09-02-12, 13:26
Day 8, Saturday: Cebu / Angeles.
It's a great feeling spending the night cuddled up to a gorgeous young girl. I was concerned that she might attempt to leave first thing in the morning, without any sex, but I needn't have worried.
She woke and we were soon kissing. She was a good kisser and before long our hands were stroking each other. She had small tits but her nipples were erect. Her pussy was wet so I inserted a finger and slowly fingered her as we continued to kiss. After a while I was erect, so I rolled a condom on, climbed on top and slid inside. Her pussy was tight and we had the kind of 'girlfriend sex' I'd been craving, with lots of kissing and eye contact. We fucked in a variety of positions including her on top, slowly grinding her hips on mine. After a while she put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl', bouncing up and down on my dick as she closed her eyes tightly. I usually like to climax with the girl on top but I flipped her over in one movement and fucked her hard in missionary, her ankles on my shoulders. She groaned as I pounded her pussy hard until I came. It was a fantastic session with a truly gorgeous girl, one of the top 10 girls I've met in Asia.
We cuddled for half an hour before she showered and got changed. I took some photos and slipped her a generous tip before she left. What a girl. If I was staying in Cebu for longer I would have got her mobile number and arranged to meet again.
My flight to Clark was late afternoon. During the one hour flight I saw one of the prettiest stewardess I have ever seen. She had an amazing face with sexy slanty eyes so I tried to photograph her when the cabin crew did their usual mid-flight games. The photo was blurred and didn't capture her beauty but if I could bar-fine any girls as pretty in Angeles, I'the be happy. I was excited to be returning to the 'Gogo Capital of the World'. There are many bars and thousands of girls. I met some stunners there two years ago and along with Pattaya in Thailand, it is Asia's 'supermarket of sex'.
From Clark Airport I got a taxi to Fields Avenue and walked to my favourite hotel, APPARTELLE. It doesn't look promising from the outside as it's just a door sandwiched between two gogo bars, but you climb stairs to the reception and the rooms are spacious and surprisingly quiet. My Standard Room cost 1450 pesos per night and had cable TV, a well-stocked mini-bar and, best of all, a large mirror next to the bed. Executive Rooms are 1990 pesos and a Jacuzzi Room is 2490 pesos. It was 8. 30pm so I had a quick wash and went to Jollibee for a snack. I wanted to get to the gogo bars as soon as possible.
It was 9pm when I entered ATLANTIS, the standout bar two years ago. There were 60 girls on stage, firing balloons at customers and the place had a party atmosphere. I got chatting with the manager, also from England, who ordered me a free drink. He told me that prices have stayed the same in Atlantis for years, the only thing to go up is the price of drinks (125 pesos for a San Miguel) to keep away 'cheap Charlies'. Wishfully I looked for 'China Doll', a beautiful girl I'd bar-fined twice two years ago. She was the most affectionate girl I've ever met on my travels and, as an added bonus, also had the biggest natural tits. Sadly I couldn't see her.
The girls were all young and lots were pretty. They wore number tags and were separated in to those you could bar-fine for 3000 pesos and those that cost 1800. I saw a gorgeous girl nearby (2397) but she was with a middle-aged Korean man. On stage I spotted a 10/10 doing a sexy dance routine. She had fair hair and a dazzling face but a waitress told me that she was already with a customer (surprise surprise, another Korean). Missing out on good-lookers to Koreans is what I call 'early bird syndrome' (the early bird catches the worm). I made a note of her number (2850) and decided that I'd return to Atlantis tomorrow to buy her a drink.
Next I went to CRYSTAL PALACE. It's like a smaller version of Atlantis with 40 girls crowded on stage and more girls stood on a balcony above. All girls were young and a number of them were cute. I didn't see any 8/10's or higher but there were some nice bodies and the place had a fun atmosphere. My San Miguel cost 95 pesos and there was a two-tiered bar-fine of 1800/3000 pesos depending on the girl.
TROPIX was busy with customers and at 10. 50pm there were 40 girls on stage. There were some cuties but the problem with seeing a 10/10 early in the night is that the bar is set high. To bar-fine a girl from Tropix is good value at 1500/1800 pesos. At one point an eccentric white-haired Japanese man wearing a high-visibility vest walked up to the stage and made a penis shape out of one of the balloons. The girls all laughed but security ushered him away.
DOLLHOUSE was another of my favourites two years ago. It has tiered seating surrounding a circular stage and is a good bet to find pretty girls. There was a 'catwalk show' when I entered and when it finished another set of girls did an impressive dance routine involving metal rings. Every fifteen minutes something new happens so it's a good way to see the talent on offer. I noticed a pretty blond perched on a stool next to the stage, next to a tall girl with great legs. The bar-fine is either 1800 or 3000 pesos which seems the going rate for the bigger bars in Angeles. The only drawback of Dollhouse is that there is too much pressure to buy lady-drinks.
At 11. 15pm I entered FORBIDDEN CITY. It is similar in layout to Atlantis but there is far more pressure to buy lady-drinks. Within a minute of taking my seat, a waitress sat next to me and asked for a drink. There were about 50 girls on stage and the quality was good. Girls slid down a firemans pole from the balcony above and the bar-fine is 2000/3000 pesos. At one point the DJ introduced 'the Cherry Girls' and four fresh-faced young girls walked on stage and shuffled self-consciously to 'Like A Virgin'. One was very cute. These girls can be bar-fined but you can't have sex with them.
It was great to be back on Fields Avenue. Pretty 'Hello Girls' called 'hello mister' as I walked past and the place was a blaze of neon and music. Vendors walked past carrying trays filled with items ranging from chewing gum to viagra, peanuts to large cuddly toys, while sexy 'Promo Girls' from Perimeter Road bars handed out flyers for 'happy hour'. Young freelancers, always walking in pairs, tried to catch my eye. I considered going back to Atlantis to see if the 10/10 girl was free but I knew it would be a waste of time. She'd be in bed with her Korean customer by now.
PASHA is a smaller bar but sometimes I prefer intimate venues. 20 girls were crowded on stage and every minute they all shuffled to the side, meaning I got a great view of all of the girls. When they left the stage (to be replaced by 20 more girls) , they paraded in single file around the bar giving me a close-up view of their faces. They were all young and I saw a few pretty ones. To take a girl from Pasha you have to buy them a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. In effect, you're paying their bar-fine. It's just a way for the bar to cover their back as in recent years bars have been raided in Angeles and closed down as sex venues.
It was getting late. I went to CAROUSEL, one of the must-visit bars. 40 girls were on a rotating stage, like a merry-go-round, and three of them caught my eye. One had a very pretty face but looked too serious, another had a perfect figure and hair down to her waist and the third was the youngest with a fresh-faced appeal. I bought a San Miguel (95 pesos) and two 'Tequila Girls' in sexy red outfits and fishnet stockings asked if I wanted to buy the waitress on my table a shot. One was very pretty and her hair was tied up in a side ponytail. Waitresses and 'Tequila Girls' can also be bar-fined for a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. After seeing the 10/10 in Atlantis though, I was on the hunt for perfection.
There were about 75 girls in BLUE NILE. Some danced on stage, the sexiest danced on the tables but most were sat on couches at the side. I bought a beer and was joined by a blond girl in a dress that left little to the imagination. Although she was older than the rest and had the look of a hard-faced pro, she had a slim body and danced suggestively. I felt myself getting hard as she grinded against me. I bought her a lady-drink (250 pesos) but she had a bad attitude. I asked her about the bar-fine and she said 'no need to shout' (I had to raise my voice to be heard over the loud music). Another time I asked her to repeat something she said and she snapped 'listen this time' like I was a naughty schoolkid! The bar-fine for the girls on stage was 2000, those on tables cost 2500 and apparently she was the only girl who cost 3000.
Suddenly I felt tired after a long day and a few too many beers, so I decided to go back to my hotel. My intention had been to visit plenty of bars and I'd achieved that. A girl would have been a bonus but I wasn't desperate after my session with Rosalyn earlier. I was glad to be back in Angeles. It's an exciting, vibrant place with many pretty girls. I slept well.
WestCoast1
09-02-12, 15:22
Answer NO.On the bottom, various types of bikini bottoms, shorts, or sarongs. On top is usually a bikini top. No topless in AC, I think.
Member #4698
09-02-12, 17:00
After seeing the 10/10 in Atlantis though, I was on the hunt for perfection...... [later] Suddenly I felt tired after a long day and a few too many beers, so I decided to go back to my hotel. Same thing happened to me on the first night I visited AC. I had just spent 5 nights in Macau shagging Chinese stunners. I arrived in AC late, around midnight, and went hunting. My target was a Filipina 10. Like you, I hit the most likely spots: Atlantis, Blue Nile, Golden Nile, and Crystal Palace and had similar results. I threw in the towel around 1:45am and retired to the ABC alone. Oh, the Walk of Shame! LOL. Next day I adjusted my sights and as a result had a great time the rest of my stay. I now look for above average (6* to 7*) girl next door gone bad types who are up for a good time and willing to give me the GFE. These girls are what AC is best for and why I am coming back for my third trip in February.
My experience is similar to yours and WR. Over the years, they have only run at sunup on occasion (and I've had several who either left right after the first pop, or wanted to). However, on my last 3 AC visits, I've sat at Kok's or Phillies and met multiple gents who complained bitterly of being in town for several weeks, and all of their girls getting the F out of the room at sunup. Comments were like: "Man I've had a dozen girls and not one has stayed into the morning. Its a pissoff you get her from the bar at 2am. Then buy her something to eat and go for a drink somewhere. THEN at 6am she's telling me about getting home to her son and I payed a 3000 barfine." Really fella, ALL of them?"Ya I have the worst &$% luck." For some gents, this is how they see AC. In June of 2010, a gent at Kokomo's was telling me a similar tale (think I reported it here) , saying it was his virgin trip to AC, he's planned a month's trip there, he'd found a cheap long-term rate at a hotel. He'd been there for 3 weeks, taken a girl most nights, and every girl either ran after the first pop or left at sunup; and he was never coming back to AC. He seemed like a nice chap in talking over a late lunch (and not pangit) ; I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?because it crap. I think people just like to complain sometimes. I really find it hard to believe that anyone would have such luck in AC. I can understand making rookie mistakes on your frist trip but even that happens within limits. AC is one of the easiest places in the world to learn and understand and the system is stright forward.
The last time I was in Manila (which was a long, long time ago) many of the dancing bargirls were topless on stage. I will be in Angeles City at the end of the year and was wondering if I am likely to see any topless performances by the Fields Avenue girls?Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeter
Manfield04
09-02-12, 17:42
Where are they?
Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeter
Manfield04
09-02-12, 17:50
Where are they?
Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeter
The last time I was in Manila (which was a long, long time ago) many of the dancing bargirls were topless on stage. I will be in Angeles City at the end of the year and was wondering if I am likely to see any topless performances by the Fields Avenue girls?You can try D*K S*T located just off MacArthur Highway opposite the casino. It opens around 9. 30 pm and caters mostly for locals. There is no cover charge and you just buy drinks / lady drinks like in the bars. It operates almost like Ms Uni* in Manila but the number of girls is very much less.
Llantarnam
09-02-12, 21:05
Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeterThanks for the info.
Is there any logical reason why it's allowed elsewhere but not on Fields?
Thanks for the info.
Is there any logical reason why it's allowed elsewhere but not on Fields?That may occur at Filipino run establishments for Filipino customers but if it exists, its buried deep in the underbelly of AC as its strictly against the letter of the law. Just about any girl out of any bar in AC will be pleased to give you private dances at your hotel so why take the risk?
BrainDrain
09-03-12, 01:43
Suddenly I felt tired after a long day and a few too many beers, so I decided to go back to my hotel. My intention had been to visit plenty of bars and I'd achieved that. A girl would have been a bonus but I wasn't desperate after my session with Rosalyn earlier. I was glad to be back in Angeles. It's an exciting, vibrant place with many pretty girls. I slept well.I understand you there. Sometimes the girls being there will make it harder to sleep. Sleeping alone in AC though is not cost effective. With Philippines and a service based economy, it is cost effective just to have a girl on standby in the bed just in case.
The times when I've done these sums. I'm usually walk away then come back when I realise I'm agonising over the price of a good cup of coffee at home.
Of course, the AC girls body clocks are not used to sleeping in the dark.
Wicked Roger
09-03-12, 04:47
Where are they?Try Soi Cowboy in Bangkok (Lone Gun as an example). In this respect PI is losing out I think as punters who want this aspect of bars won't find much to make them happy in any city in the Philippines
Great Muta
09-03-12, 04:49
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BrainDrain
09-03-12, 05:33
EDIT - DeleteI enjoyed the company of an Annabel in AC last week. This one her boobs were not exception, even perhaps standard pinay A cup plus padded bra.
This one was 29 yo, housemaid.
I think I had more fun with the slightly older pinay. The young bargirls I had didn't have the repertoire of the more experienced ladies.
Now that I think about it, all of the over 28 pinays that I have dated in Cebu, Angeles and around the world all give great blowjobs, the younger ones don't have the experiences.
BD
Sprite, clear your inbox. (Sorry for the noise guys.)
GosiwonBusan
09-03-12, 15:33
My second trip to AC will start sept 9. Looking for a wingman or two.
British. 32.
Pm me.
I will have my first visit to PI and AC, arriving sept 13, and I have an affinity for dark skinned women. Do anyone have a tip where to find a (or more) in AC? Advise appreciated
Boomer
You can try D*K S*T located just off MacArthur Highway opposite the casino. It opens around 9. 30 pm and caters mostly for locals. There is no cover charge and you just buy drinks / lady drinks like in the bars. It operates almost like Ms Uni* in Manila but the number of girls is very much less.Dunk Shot (don't know why the secrecy) is a KTV so a lot more expensive than the gogos on Fields. It is a block off the MacArthur Highway so look for the bright neon sign (visible if standing in front of the casino).
Sir Lancelot
09-03-12, 22:18
day 9, sunday: angeles.
(previous days on the manila and cebu threads)
there isn't a lot to do in angeles during the day unless you're looking for girls. a few bars open early, especially those on perimeter road, but most come to life early evening. i had a leisurely afternoon to prepare myself for the night ahead. my plan was straightforward. i wanted to bar-fine the stunning 10/10 girl i'd seen in atlantis the night before.
i watched a movie in my room and had dinner at orchid inn. it has a large menu and the food is always delicious. five australian ex-pats chatted loudly at the bar and several older gents walked past to their room with pretty girls at their side. it's a popular hotel for ex-pats.
atlantis opens at 7pm so i arrived at 6. 55pm to beat the early-bird koreans. i was first in and sat on my favourite stool, offering an elevated view of the stage so you can see all of the girls, even those at the back. despite the fact that i was the only customer, the stage was packed with probably 70 girls and a further 25 watched from the balcony above. i scanned around, looking for the 10/10 girl (number 2850) , but couldn't see her. a waitress handed me my beer so i said "i'd like to buy a drink for number 2850, is she here?". the waitress walked away and i sat there marveling at how many pretty girls atlantis has. i counted ten girls i'd bar-fine in the blink of an eye.
i waited for ten minutes, by which time a dozen more customers had arrived. just as i was wondering whether the waitress had forgotten about me, she walked down the stairs with the girl at her side. my heart skipped a beat. i've been with over a hundred asian pay-for-play girls but i was speechless at how pretty this girl was. i thought she was special when i saw her last night but up close she was pure perfection. she introduced herself as cj and sat down on the stool next to me. i offered her a drink and she asked for a san miguel (which cost 300 pesos as opposed to mine which cost 125 pesos!). we clinked bottles and she said 'dagay' with a radiant smile. she had pale skin which made her look like she had japanese blood and her long hair was light brown with a fringe. she wore a glittery blue top and tight denim shorts, unlike most girls in atlantis who wore bikinis.
we got along well. after an hour she went on stage to do a dance routine with nine girls dressed in the same glittery blue outfit. she was a good dancer and had a smile painted on her face throughout. i decided that she was one of the prettiest girls i'd seen on any of my trips to asia. when she returned to my side she picked up a stray balloon and carefully twisted and shaped it to make a dog, before proudly handing it to me. four 'models' walked past wearing sexy outfits, clinking champagne glasses with customers."why aren't you a model?" i asked cj."they nearly naked!" she replied.
we ate some tasty japanese food and went upstairs. the second floor balcony gives an excellent aerial view of the stage while the top floor has private booths which can be hired for3000 pesos. we had the top balcony to ourselves. by now we were both quite merry, so danced with each other and held hands. cj pointed out her friends on stage who waved up to us.
i decided that the time had come to bar-fine her but that's when my bubble burst."i can't tonight" she said apologetically,"i must be back for 1am". the time was 11. 30pm. i was disappointed but at least it showed integrity on her behalf as she could have gone with me and left as soon as possible."another time?" i asked and she nodded. i told her i'd come back tomorrow and asked a waitress for the bill. i held my breath. i'd bought cj six lady-drinks, as well as food, so i knew it would be expensive. the waitress didn't let me down. the bill came to 2350 pesos. that's a lot to spend on a girl you don't end up taking back to your room!
even worse, i'd spent nearly five hours with her so it was 11. 45pm when i left atlantis. one thing was for certain, i would definitely be taking a girl from somewhere. i couldn't have two girl-free nights in a row in angeles! i walked down fields avenue and smiled at the pretty 'hello girls' who tried to lure me in to their bars.
i noticed a bar called lancelot halfway down fields avenue. i thought it must be fate, so i entered. there were 20 girls dancing, all young and slim. i saw a few fairly pretty ones but i'd just spent five hours chatting with a 10/10 girl so my sights were set high. i had to laugh to myself when the song 'i'm horny' got played. too bloody right! the place had a good atmosphere and i enjoyed talking to a friendly waitress called irene who didn't once ask for a drink. as a result i bought her one.
there were 30 girls crowded on stage in genesis, including a few very cute ones. like all pasha group bars, the girls shuffled to their side every few minutes and when the girls left the stage, they walked around the room, giving customers a close-up view. i'm not sure why more bars don't do this. the bar-fine in genesis is a 2000 peso bottle of 'party animal'.
two years ago club asia impressed me. i entered at 12. 25am and although there were only ten girls dancing, they were pretty and were doing a sexy routine utilising the shiny poles on stage. the bar-fine in club asia is 1800/3000 pesos, depending on the girl. a couple of cuties playfully fired balloons at me but the best lookers on stage were two girls who strangely were wearing casual clothes. one of them had a huge rack so i asked a waitress about her. i was told that she had just come back from an earlier bar-fine, which told me that a 'short-time mentality' exists in club asia.
that's the problem when bars become popular with koreans, who arrive early and bar-fine early. girls will inevitably want to leave before midnight to try and get themselves more money, so a 'short-time mentality' is born. five years ago 'long-time' was guaranteed in angeles, but not any more it seems.
it was 12. 45am and i was getting desperate. i weighed up my options. atlantis had the most good lookers but i didn't want to harm my chances with cj. i'd seen pretty girls in other bars but none to set my pulse racing. i decided therefore that the time had come to enter what i call 'last chance saloon'. the idea is that i pick a bar with plenty of girls and i won't allow myself to leave without one at my side. it's a simple yet effective method to secure a girl.
i considered several bars and opted for dollhouse as it has both quantity and quality of girls. i got a prime seat in front of a stage and wondered which was the lucky girl. within seconds of sitting down, two girls sat either side of me. one was tall with a sexy figure and the other had nice tits and braces on her teeth. immediately a waitress walked over and asked whether i'd like to buy them a drink. dollhouse is a good bar but the constant pressure for lady-drinks is annoying."maybe later" i said. but the tall girl wouldn't take no for an answer and without exaggeration asked for a drink six times in the space of ten minutes! it got very annoying. she reminded me of a persistent beggar. a lovely girl sat nearby kept smiling to me. she was definitely the type i go for but unfortunately she was with another customer.
another small girl sat next to me. she was cute and innocent and had very kissable lips. she said hello shyly but didn't pester me for a drink, so i bought her one. i felt a tinge of excitement. i knew i'd found my girl.
her name was syra and she was 21. she was a lovely girl. not only was she pretty but she had a very playful personality, which always suggests good sex. she told me that the bar-fine was 3000 pesos but she had to leave at 6am. i appreciated her telling me this. other girls might have left early without warning but the fact that she told me indicated that she wanted to give value for money. 6am still gave plenty of time for several 'pops', so i agreed.
it took three minutes to walk back to my hotel. she was a passionate kisser and before long our clothes lay discarded at the foot of the bed. we started with the usual 1-2-3 (mish, doggy and cowgirl) and as i was fucking her in missionary, i lifted one of her legs over, so she was still on her back but i was entering her pussy sideways. this position proved to be popular with girls in cebu and if her groans were anything to go by, she loved it too. she was a passionate girl who liked to try different positions. we fucked in missionary with her legs together, so her pussy was tight, and then i lay behind her and spooned her in front of the mirror. my hand squeezed her small firm tits as i came. it was an energetic session with a sweet young girl, eager to please.
we cuddled up to each other and chatted for a long time. she was a really lovely, really sweet girl. she told me that she had a 'fashion show' at dollhouse the night after and that she was very nervous for it. i promised that i would go along and watch.
i was pleased with my nights work. i'd fucked a great girl and lined up a 10/10 prospect in atlantis. after a slow start to the trip, i was now meeting the kind of girls i expected to. i kissed syra goodnight and we fell asleep arm-in-arm.
Dunk Shot (don't know why the secrecy) is a KTV so a lot more expensive than the gogos on Fields. It is a block off the MacArthur Highway so look for the bright neon sign (visible if standing in front of the casino).The last time I was at Dunk Shot, I saw what has to be one of the top 10 prettiest fils girls I have ever seen in person. I sat her for a couple of hours and a few drinks, but as sexy as she was, she was a great scammer. She made promises to perform for me for one more drink for about three drinks worth, but when I ask her to be very specific about what the next drink would "buy me", she wouldn't "put out". My buddies had excellent results with three VERY attractive gals from there however. I went back to Dunk Shot last Sunday night, but except for one gal (she was already seated with another customer (Korean) , the line up wasn't that much better than the Field's Bars. The prices can be steep, if you take a girl to a "private room" you have a 2000p minimum for the smallest room and I suspect the girl will ask for at least double that to do anything.
I was told that there is another club called "En Grande", but there must be more than one and it is a little out of the way. The driver that told me said the girls are prettier than the Dunk Shot girls, and it is a "locals" place. He also said that the "locals" always keep the best girls for themselves. I was surprised at his honesty! I will make a point to go the next trip!
I had a last minute opportunity to visit AC, and took it. The flight arrives about three hours late to Manila, so I didn't get to AC until 1:30 Saturday night, dropped the bags and hit a couple of places. As you would expect most of the good ones are gone, so walked past the "second tier" bars near Pacific Breeze and started to talk to one of the girls there, and she promised a BJ to remember for only 700p. She wasn't a beauty, but not outside of most limits, and as it turned out delivered as promised, plus an almost no holds barred fuck session (no anal). I slept well.
Sunday went to SM to eat and caught the first show of the new Bourne movie, I think there were 4 people in the theater and I am certain that at least one couple went to the top row and "got busy", they came in separately and left about an hour into the movie. Got to like young love. He he.
Afterwards, went to the "end of the line" ie After School, and nothing of note, moved to Girls Generation and found a few cuties, had a couple of drinks and settled on a fairly tall lass. We hit if off and after a drink I BF'ed her and off the Devera we went. She had just come back after a few days off for the monthly vacation, and was "in the mood", as was I. A pop and half later, I let her go so that I could find something different for the evening. This was the night I went to Dunk Shot after a stop at Champagne and The Witch, I found a couple of possibles at both places. Champagne has always had a couple of girls I liked, and I enjoy the waitresses a lot. I had never been to the Witch, but was impressed by their line up also, plus met a new drinking buddy there.
"Bricked" the dunk shot, and went back to Champagne, sat a really cute girl and was ready to close the deal when she asked where I was staying, when I told her, she cringed. I asked why and she said she couldn't go to that hotel, because she knows someone that works there and if would get back to her family if she was seen. She asked me to move hotels, which I declined. She then said it was okay if I took another girl, she "understood", even offered me her really cute friend.
I declined, the one I really wanted was this slightly chubby waitress that just had that "it" factor, but she was "occupied". I went to the Witch and the girl I had my eye on was still there and smiled when I sat down, I got her off stage and bought a drink to start the "interview", turns out she has been working for 4 nights and never barfined. I was intrigued and she seemed to really want to go, so called the mommy over and paid the BF, while the girl was changing, the mommy told me that I was her first barfine and to please keep that in mind and asked me to make sure she got into a trike or jeep okay, because she didn't know much about AC. If I had any doubts about her story they were gone.
We went thru the "I'm shy" thing and she wanted to get some liquid courage in her. I indulged, but almost let it get out of hand, I realized I had about a 45 min window before the real effects of the alcohol took over and I made the most of it. Turns out she wanted to try a few things she hadn't done and she really liked the pocket rocket I had with me. We wound up on the balcony, her holding onto the railing getting it from behind, then she wanted to watch herself in the mirror in the room. I was glad I hadn't waited any longer because she started to get really sloppy drunk and I finished in a flurry, got her showered and fast asleep. The next morning, she woke up, apologized and proceeded to administer a very well done BJ to show her appreciation for my taking care of her. She asked if she could stay long enough for me to do her again, but that wasn't in the cards for me.
Monday afternoon was spent trying to find a diamond-on-the-rough, and I did. Kind of. At a nice new place off the Perimeter Road, about half way up the road where it splits off, sorry I can't remember the name. A pretty girl, but turns out she also was in town for two days only and no bar fine. She seemed really nervous and while wanted to go, I felt I had done enough training for one trip. No afternoon session, but stopped by Champagne again early to see if the friend was available, she was but the waitress was as well. Talked to the waitress for about 30 mins and knew this gal would deliver, I was right on. We had a great session and she showed me a few tricks with the pocket rocket that I am sure will come in handy!
I had an early get up so she left about midnight, after three hours of good fun!
I really wanted to BF a stunner at least once on this trip, even if she was just average in the sack, just to hump a really pretty girl, but I never made to the bars that are known for the beauties. I was disappointed in some of my former favs. After school was very average, as was Pony Tails (at least in the afternoons). The Witch had some cuties, and I really want to do the door girl at Champagne, her name is Annalisa and I suspect she is a little wild thing.
The next time I am in town, I am going to try the big clubs early to try and snag a stunner at least once, just because I can!
It's been a while since I last visited AC, it has gotten a little more expensive, but still offers something I have never seen anywhere else with the possible exception of Bangkok. Be back soon!
Sir Lancelot
09-04-12, 19:05
Day 10, Monday: Angeles.
Syra left at 6am. She was the kind of girl I like, a little ray of sunshine. Sometimes you meet girls who are pretty but you suspect will be money-orientated and leave early, or be a starfish and provide a poor service, but my instincts about Syra being an affectionate girl eager to please, proved to be correct. It goes to prove that although looks are important, attitude is everything.
On a spur-of-the-moment, I decided to book a flight to Palawan. I'm a keen diver and not only does Coron have world-famous diving, my research revealed a small girlie scene to explore as well. I booked a flight from Manila's NAIA airport for tomorrow, as well as a return flight four days later.
That meant I had one more day / night in Angeles until I returned in five days time. I decided I wanted to fuck two more girls before I left.
As far as I can tell, Angeles doesn't have Thai-style massage parlours where you pick a girl from a 'fishbowl' to fuck on the premises (oh for a Nataree or Cristins) , it has legitimate massage parlours where you sometimes get offered a 'happy ending'. They aren't really my thing. Apparently the best bet for afternoon action in Angeles are the Perimeter Road gogo bars.
Perimeter Road is a long road that stretches south away from Fields Avenue past Hotel Natalia. There are lots of gogo bars although they are spread out, so you have to take a trike from one to another. Perimeter bars open early and are cheaper than those on Fields Avenue with girls 'just as pretty' according to the forum. As a result, they are ideal for afternoon 'short-time' action.
The most popular bar on Perimeter Road is PONYTAILS. I read an online review that said it was 'some distance away' so outside Hotel Natalia I flagged a trike and told the young driver "Ponytails please". I climbed in and then, somewhat farcically, he drove for just a few seconds down the road before pulling up in front of Ponytails. It was about 50 meters away! He charged me 50 pesos (his 'minimum fare' apparently) and could barely keep a straight face as he took my money. The internet isn't just a great source of information, it's also a great source of misinformation. I reluctantly paid him and entered the bar.
It was large inside with a good layout. There was a big stage in the middle and although only five girls were dancing. 15 were lounged on the couches surrounding the stage. The quality of girls was better than most bars on Fields Avenue. Three young girls were smiling at me from a table nearby, including a lovely girl with a middle-eastern look. She had a beautiful face with high cheekbones, mid-length hair and braces on her teeth. I was about to offer her a drink when she was summoned to sit with another customer. Our fledgling romance was over before it had begun. At 4pm more girls arrived and the stage became busier. There was a leggy blond and a few other attractive ones too. The bar-fine for girls wearing orange tags is 1500 pesos and those wearing white badges cost 1800 pesos. In other words, Ponytails has great girls and cheap prices. A must-visit.
My main goal for the night was to bar-fine CJ so I had to be at Atlantis by 7pm. Suddenly I realised that the time was 5pm and two hours didn't give me much time to find a girl, fuck her, have a shower and something to eat, and get to Atlantis as soon as it opened. It was possible but I decided a back-up plan was needed.
Halfway down Fields Avenue is A Santos Road, between Rhapsody and Kokomoz. 50 yards down this street on the right are several 'blow-job' bars. The idea is that you pick a girl from out front and she takes you to a small room around the back and gives you a blowjob behind a curtain. It sounded sleazy and something that would live long in the memory.
I'd read about one with the inspired name 'Gobblers' but couldn't find it. A couple of older girls shouted 'hello' to me from Black Pearl but they weren't very attractive. One of them had big tits but if you go to a blow-job bar, the girl doesn't need to be pretty or have a great body, they just need to be able to provide a good vacuum service. After Black Pearl was Shadows, Treasure Island and Niagara but I didn't see many girls. Perhaps if I'd seen an Angelina Jolie lookalike with big blowjob lips I might have been tempted but I headed back to my hotel.
After a shower and quick change of clothes, I ate at Orchid Inn. It was exciting to think I'd be fucking CJ later, one of the most stunning girls I'd ever seen in Asia.
I arrived at ATLANTIS at 7pm. There were about 60 girls crowded on stage and plenty more on the balcony above. I couldn't see CJ but the quality of girls was excellent. None of them were CJ though. Girls fired balloons around the bar and a cute one at the front was extremely accurate, hitting me twice on the forehead. The manager was nearby so I tapped him on the shoulder and pointed towards the culprit, pretending to make a complaint, much to her amusement.
I asked a waitress whether CJ was available but she told me 'not here yet'. I finished my beer and left. I decided that I would visit a few more bars and then return to Atlantis later.
There were 25 girls crowded shoulder-to-shoulder on a narrow stage in TYPHOON. Every few minutes a bell rang and the girls took a few steps to their left. I bought a San Miguel (95 pesos) and noticed two very pretty girls. One of them (number 141) looked Japanese and had a flower in her curly hair. When she saw me looking, she flashed her boobs to me and winked. She looked a handful, in more ways than one. The other girl that caught my attention (number 307) was from the opposite side of the spectrum, much shyer and the cute girl-next-door type. I was extremely impressed with Typhoon. There was a good atmosphere and lots of young, pretty girls. The bar-fine is a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'.
The time had come to go to DOLLHOUSE to watch Syra in her 'Victoria's Secret fashion show'. I was shown to a prime stool next to the stage and when Syra saw me, she skipped over. She was wearing a sexy red outfit and her hair was newly curled. She told me that she was nervous, which I found very endearing. The show was good fun. Each girl took it in turn to parade around the stage to show off their outfit, and I had a front-row seat! I spotted the pretty girl who had been with a customer the night before (number 4823) and number 754 had long hair and a beautiful face. Syra was the last to walk and had a smile on her face throughout. The crowd gave her a loud cheer and I could see how much she loved her moment in the limelight. She pulled a tongue at me when she walked past and I felt strangely proud of her.
Afterwards we shared some chicken nuggets (180 pesos) and three funny things happened. Firstly, the pushy girl from the night before came over and without saying 'hello' asked if I would buy her a drink! Then a pretty girl with her hair tied back leaned down from the stage and asked me "do you speak Tagalog?". When I said 'no' she said that I reminded her of a Filipino singer. I found this funny as I'm maybe the whitest person on the planet! Thirdly the bar was plunged in to darkness because of a power-cut, prompting all of the girls to scream loudly. I gave Syra a kiss in the dark.
When the lights came back on, I bought Syra another drink. The waitress lingered and asked "you buy me drink too?". I wish there wasn't so much pressure to buy drinks in Dollhouse as otherwise it's a great bar. I went to the toilet and noticed that all of the girls who aren't on stage, sit in the seated area next to the male rest-room. Taking a leak is a good way to gauge the talent.
It was tempting to bar-fine Syra again but I wanted a new girl. I kissed her goodbye and returned to ATLANTIS to find CJ. It was 10pm and this time I saw her looking as pretty as a picture in a fluorescent green outfit. She walked over and gave me a kiss on the cheek before telling me that she was busy with another customer. I was disappointed but when I told her that I was leaving for Palawan tomorrow, she said "can you bring me a shell back?". It was encouraging that she wanted to see me again. It also meant that I had something to look forward to when I returned to Angeles.
Fifteen minutes later I saw CJ walking towards the exit on the arm of an elderly Asian man. It's never nice seeing your favourite girl being led away by someone else but you need to be prepared for it because that's the name of the game when you come to Asia on a sex tour. She discretely waved to me as she breezed past.
I went to QBAR which was called Shark last time I visited. There were 12 girls on stage, dancing with lots of energy and having lots of fun. A few of them were possible bar-fine candidates, including a pretty one with short hair who kept looking over to me and smiling. I chatted with a waitress who was lots of fun so I bought her a drink. Four girls were slow dancing to 'Bed of Roses' when I walked out. A good bar.
The time was 11pm when I walked in to BLUE NILE. I got a stool at a table on which two girls were dancing, their fishnet stockings and leather boots right in front of my face. The girl with the aggressive attitude who I chatted with on my last visit was sat with another customer which I was pleased about. The stage on the far wall raises up and down to let girls on and off and each shift contains about 20 girls, who cost 1800 pesos to bar-fine. A few were very attractive. The girls dancing on the tables are generally prettier and cost 2500 pesos. I noticed a fair-haired waitress smiling at me from a nearby table. She had a pretty smile and a sexy body but I decided to go back to Typhoon to bar-fine the big-boobed Japanese looking girl.
TYPHOON had impressed me earlier in the night as there were lots of pretty young girls. I sat next to the stage and was disappointed to see the big-boobed blond girl was with a Korean customer. Any girl with fair hair and big tits is never going to be lacking customers in Angeles. I ordered a beer.
I asked a waitress whether 307 was free and she asked me what she looked like."Pretty, long dark hair and a tattoo on her back" I said, before I realised that I had described half of the girls in Angeles. As if by magic, at that exact moment the girl I was describing walked past and smiled sweetly at me. I kept my eyes fixed on her and sure enough she turned around and glanced back at me. I waved her to come over.
Up close she was perfection. She had a cute face and a lovely body beneath the tiny bikini she was wearing. I bought her a drink and she held my hand. Her name was Gillian and she was 19 years old. She'd worked at the bar for just two weeks and unusually for a bar-girl didn't have any children. Even more unusual, she didn't have any brothers or sisters. I enjoyed chatting with her as she had a cheeky sense of humour and kept pinching me on the arm when I made her laugh.
I couldn't resist bar-fining her. The 'bar-fine' was a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal' but a plump, elderly mamasan informed me that Gillian would have to be back at 3am because they were going to Olongpo during the night. It was midnight so I agreed.
Gillian went to get changed and appeared five minutes later wearing a blue top that showed off her curves. We walked hand-in-hand back to my hotel, dodging the viagra sellers. I sat on the end of my bed and searched for something we could watch on TV but was surprised when I turned around to see her standing completely naked. She saw me looking over and covered herself with her hands and said "I'm shy"! It's amazing how many 'shy' girls you meet in Philippines, who spend every night dancing in front of a crowded bar!
Soon we were kissing and she was a great kisser, a real turn-on for me. I was rock hard so I put a condom on and she softly gasped as I slid in to her tight pussy. I wondered whether she had ever been with a foreigner before. She'd only been at the bar for two weeks, maybe I was her first? I was gentle with her, fucking her slowly, and kissed her on the neck which she loved. She went on top and despite her cute, innocent looks, she rode me expertly, grinding her hips on mine as she maintained eye contact sexily. You can't beat getting rode by a young hottie. I flipped her over again and gave her a good hard fucking with her ankles on my shoulders, until I shot my load.
We lay on the bed for a few moments before she said "we shower". In Thailand showering with your girl is the standard procedure but in Philippines it's very rare. I enjoyed lathering her nubile young body with soap-suds and noticed that her nipples were erect. She was the type of girl I dream about meeting on my trips to Asia. Not only was she very cute with a lovely body, she was a lot of fun and had a wicked sense of humour.
Afterwards we lay naked on the bed and I asked whether I could take photos of her. Although I meant facial shots, she pulled lots of sexy topless poses. She wasn't shy at all! I felt myself getting hard. It was a shame that she had to leave before 3am because she was the type of girl I would love to stay all night and fuck again and again.
She got changed but before she left I got her phone number. I knew I would be seeing her again.
Just want to say thanks for another excellent report Sir Lancelot. Brings back vivid memories of the thrill of the munger chase in AC and
Is a catalyst for me to venture way beyond my regular hunting ground of the Forbidden City. Since I now stay out past Bretto's in the Perimeter district it will make a lot sense for me to give Ponytails a try. Am so looking forward to returning asap.
Day 10, Monday: Angeles.
Syra left at 6am. She was the kind of girl I like, a little ray of sunshine. Sometimes you meet girls who are pretty but you suspect will be money-orientated and leave early, or be a starfish and provide a poor service, but my instincts about Syra being an affectionate girl eager to please, proved to be correct. It goes to prove that although looks are important, attitude is everything.
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Afterwards we lay naked on the bed and I asked whether I could take photos of her. Although I meant facial shots, she pulled lots of sexy topless poses. She wasn't shy at all! I felt myself getting hard. It was a shame that she had to leave before 3am because she was the type of girl I would love to stay all night and fuck again and again.
She got changed but before she left I got her phone number. I knew I would be seeing her again.Author! Author! Encore!
Ibn Buttita
09-05-12, 00:03
Philippines diary
3 quick days in ACReports just don't come any better than these.
They engaged me on a left brain level, as I started making mental notes about places I should visit on my next trip and other good tips. But the more I read the more it got my right brain in gear, and soon I was biting my lip thinking about some of their encounters with the girls.
Back-to-back brilliance. Thank you both.
Devilspinkick
09-05-12, 05:23
atSir Lancelot.
Informative post. I will be visiting the PI and AC for the first time this December (plan to fly over to AC from BKK). Guess I'll have to check out this Ponytails place. Don't really care about costs so much but want to sample the best collection of filipina cuties possible.
- DSK
Sir Lancelot
09-06-12, 01:40
(please note, this diary starts in Coron, Palawan. That part of my diary is on the 'Other Towns' thread)
Day 14, Friday: Angeles.
My flight was at 10. 45am so I woke early and got a minivan to the airport. Busuanga's airport is little more than a shelter at the side of a runway and security comprised of a few guards rummaging around the top layers of my luggage. I stood behind a few attractive Filipino girls in the queue which helped pass time.
Although I had enjoyed my time in Coron, I was eager to get back to Angeles. In my short stay there earlier in the trip, I'd visited lots of bars, seen lots of great girls and bar-fined two honeys, Syra and Gillian. I was looking forward to more of the same.
There are no direct flights from Busuanga to Clark, so I flew to Manila. The flight took less than an hour. A number of bus companies run between Manila and Angeles. If going from Ermita, Swagman's 'Fly The Bus' is a popular choice (600 pesos) but Philippine Rabbit operates the same route for a quarter of the price. The problem with Manila though is that it doesn't have central bus depot, instead there are lots of operators dotted around the city. This means you need to do your research to find out who goes where and then take a taxi to their depot. The nearest operator to the airport is Five Star Bus Company. The fare to Angeles cost 139 pesos and the journey took a little over two hours.
Five Star's depot in Angeles is out-of-town, on MacArthur Highway. There were several trike drivers sat on the kerb, so I approached one. He quoted me a high price to take me to Fields Avenue so I walked away. He called after me and we agreed on half the price he'd originally quoted. I was pleased as I didn't fancy walking around in the blazing sun. As we were driving towards Fields Avenue along a busy street, I saw three girls standing at a market stall. I locked glances with one of them, a cute young thing, before I realised it was Gillian, the 19 year old from Typhoon I had fucked. She smiled at me as the trike sped away down the street. It was a nice coincidence to see her again.
Before I left Angeles, I'd booked my favourite room at APPARTELLE HOTEL. As I checked in, the receptionist asked me how long I planned to stay for. I told her "at least five days" as I wanted to keep my options open in case I decided to end my trip in Puerto Galera or Subic. The room cost 1450 pesos per night. It was spacious, had it's own bathroom, a well-stocked fridge and a mirror next to the bed. On the down-side, the TV didn't work. The receptionist apologised and informed me that an engineer would come to repair it soon. She gave me their DVD player free of charge.
When I walked in to TYPHOON at 7pm. 32 girls were squeezed on stage. Gillian saw me and pretended to hide behind another girl when I looked over. I called her down and bought her a drink. It was good to see her again. She was very cute and she looked sexy in the tiny bikini she was wearing. She held my hand and hugged up to my shoulder. I told her that I'd like to see her again but offered her two options: to bar-fine her that night or meet next afternoon for 1500 pesos. The latter option would mean a cheaper price for me (by 500 pesos) and more money for her (also 500 pesos). She went to the toilet and when she returned slipped a piece of paper in to my hand with a phone number written on it. We agreed to meet at Jollibee near Hotel Natalia next day. (please note, I have changed her name to Gillian for the sake of this diary).
Pleased that I had got a date lined up, I went to FORBIDDEN CITY. It was one of my favourite bars two years ago but I was unimpressed earlier in the trip. A scruffy canteen area is now in front of the entrance, so it has lost its upmarket feel and even worse, the giant buddha has gone from the back of the stage! Maybe he has been bar-fined? I got a seat and watched 12 girls in PVC doing an excellent dance routine with chains and fire. When they finished the stage became crowded with 40 girls, with another 20 watching from the balcony above. Some were very cute. I spotted a pretty young girl in the middle of the stage, wearing denim shorts and a blue bra who looked very shy. I asked the waitress to call her down. She pointed her laser-pen at the girl and moments later the cute young thing was sat at my side. The waitress said "lady-drink 300 pesos. Happy to pay?" (a single is 150 pesos). I didn't want to look a 'cheap Charlie' in front of a girl I might end up fucking, so agreed.
The girls name was Edith and she was 19. She had a pretty face with a middle-Eastern look but unfortunately her English was limited and the conversation soon ran dry. Language barrier isn't necessarily a deal-breaker for me but her body language wasn't good. She sat with her arms folded, looking bored. The mamasan saw that things weren't going well so came over and said "are you going to take my baby? She's my ace, just 3000 pesos". I might have considered 1800 pesos but 3000 was too steep for a girl who would probably turn out to be a 'starfish'. We didn't spark so I told her that it had been nice to meet her, finished my drink and left.
As I stepped on to Fields Avenue I saw two gorgeous girls wearing Ponytails sashes. One of them was a 10/10, so I made a note to pay it another visit.
Towards the bottom of Fields Avenue in the same block as Club Asia, are two bars I hadn't visited. One is called Emperors Lounge but I decided to enter the DRAGON'S DEN on the strength of a pretty 'Hello Girl' outside. It has a good layout with a large semi-circular stage surrounded by tables and couches. The lighting was good so I had an excellent view of the girls on stage.
I was given a complimentary bowl of popcorn with my beer. 25 girls were on stage, playfully firing balloons at customers. Some of the girls were very pretty. As I was admiring them the stage cleared and there was a 'Brazilian fashion show' in which the girls took it in turns parading around in bikinis. It's a nice way to gauge the talent although the commentary by the DJ made me laugh."Give it up for Lady Victoria from the beautiful city of Manila".
I liked the look of a girl called Susoke, who had pale skin and big tits. She looked like a Japanese sex doll. An 8/10 girl with long hair also caught my eye. Dragons Den definitely has some nice girls. There is a two tiered 1800/3000 bar-fine with the more expensive girls wearing green tags.
I saw another girl I really liked the look of, wearing a 327 badge. I realised it was the pretty 'Hello Girl' that I'd seen outside, who had persuaded me to enter (not that I needed much persuasion). She had dark skin and a beautiful face and kept looking at me and giggling from the stage. I gestured for her to come down to sit with me. She smiled triumphantly and had a spring in her step as she walked over. It's always a good sign when that happens.
She was extremely pretty up close, with an oriental look and mesmerising eyes. I bought her a lady-drink and enjoyed talking to her. Her name was Ann and she was 20. At one point she asked "are you naughty or nice?". I replied that I was nice."Are you big or small?" she then asked with a glint in her eye. I jokingly answered 'tiny' to lower her expectations.
I asked about the bar-fine and was surprised to discover that her bar-fine was just 1800 pesos. She was easily as pretty as some of the 3000 peso girls. I agreed to pay and she went to get changed.
Dragon's Den impressed me. It has great girls, a great atmosphere and I'd bar-fined a peach. On the walk back to my hotel I was surprised at how small she was. She was less than 5 foot. I knew I was in for a good time because she had a cheeky personality.
Back in the room we decided to watch a movie. We selected a film but when I went to put it in to the DVD player, I was surprised to find a porn DVD in the disk-holder! Ann laughed. We watched a zombie movie and she hugged me close whenever there were scary bits. It's for this very reason I always try to put horror films on when I'm with a girl. I enjoyed feeling her warm, soft body pressed against me.
Soon we were kissing. I pulled her dress off and she had lovely tits. They were a good size with large nipples, begging to be sucked. Without prompting, she softly kissed her way down my body and starting sucking my dick, slow and deep. It felt great. I smiled to myself, it was good to be back in Angeles.
I like to start fucking on top with lots of kissing and eye contact. Gradually I fucked her harder and quicker as our kissing became more passionate and when I kissed her neck, she dug her fingernails in to my back. Next we fucked in my favourite position of the trip. Her lying on her back with one leg thrown over to the side. She clutched her tits to stop them wobbling as I pounded away.
Ann loved watching herself in the mirror. She watched herself riding me and then stared at the mirror as I fucked her doggy-style, her big tits swinging back and forth. Although she was very small, she had a curvy body with a nice fuller arse to slap in to from behind. We tried lots of positions but ended with me on top again, fucking her hard as she groaned loudly and played with herself. This girl loved sex.
Afterwards we hugged up to each other and watched the end of the film. This is normally my cue to fall asleep but when it finished, Ann stood up and walked over to the DVD player. She put the porn movie in and came and lay next to me, naked, as we watched a couple fucking on a beach. Ann watched with fascination. I remembered the question she had asked me in Dragon's Den earlier,"are you naughty or nice?". Ann was definitely naughty. She enjoyed porn and watching herself having sex in the mirror. Midway through a scene in which two couples were fucking on a boat, Ann started stroking my dick until it was hard. Minutes later we were showing the robotic pornstars how to do it. It was an equally energetic session with lots of positions, that climaxed with her sucking my dick until I came in her mouth.
She told me that she had to leave at 3am (some excuse to do with her Auntie). I was disappointed. On my last trip to Angeles, every girl stayed for 'long-time' (apart from a big-boobed girl from Dirty Duck) but all three girls I'd bar-fined in Angeles on this trip had left early. Surely Angeles hadn't become a 'short-time' town in the space of two years? In fairness, if I can remember to list 'terms and conditions' in the bar, I'd get 'long-time' but I'm usually too relaxed / forgetful due to my alcoholic haze!
I'the had a great night with a lovely girl who loved sex. She instigated 'round 2' and was happy to pose for lots of photos afterwards. I gave her a nice tip and took her phone number before she left. I fell asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow. It was great to be back in Angeles.
Maybe the secrecy has to do with the fact that as the night goes on, the dancers usually go unclothed. Some of them are really Amazonian, statuesque, most a little bit chubby, no real skinny ones.
At the door, you hand over your mobile phone, so no photos. The comedy show is usually pretty funny, even though I don't speak tagalog. But the foreigner always ends up as the butt of one or more jokes.
If you take a gal there, she almost always has a great time, gets an eyeful of a few bare pussies, and laughs her head off at the comedy show. A good prelude to fun times in the pit.
G
Dunk Shot (don't know why the secrecy) is a KTV so a lot more expensive than the gogos on Fields. It is a block off the MacArthur Highway so look for the bright neon sign (visible if standing in front of the casino).
Sir Lancelot
09-06-12, 18:35
Day 15, Saturday: Angeles.
As soon as I woke, I sent a text message to Gillian from Typhoon, confirming the meeting we'd arranged verbally last night. I carried out a few chores and soon the time came to meet her. Jollibee is a fast-food restaurant that can be found in any town in Phippines. In Angeles it is located on a side road opposite Hotel Natalia. I arrived early, bought myself lunch and sat down at a free table. I've never met a Filipino girl with a good sense of time-keeping, so I had also taken along a book to read.
2pm came and went. Some pretty girls walked in but there was no sight of Gillian. I enjoyed watching the staff as I waited. In the west, a job in a fast food restaurant isn't a big deal but in Philippines, where jobs are scarce, the young people who work there have real pride in their job. Every table is spotless and the floor is mopped so vigorously you could see your reflection in it. I waited until 2. 40pm before I gave up. Filipino girls are notoriously unreliable but now I'the been stood up for the second time on this trip. I had a lazy afternoon in my room.
My plan for the evening was simple, to bar-fine CJ. At 7pm I entered ATLANTIS and was greeted by the usual sight of 50 girls crowded on to the stage and 30 watching from the balcony above. Atlantis is definitely the best bar in Angeles to go window shopping. There are lots of pretty girls and there isn't any pressure to buy lady-drinks. I couldn't see CJ so I ordered myself some food. It's revealing that the menu in Atlantis is entirely Japanese and Korean. I ordered 'tako poke' which was tasty but cost 350 pesos and the portion was small. Luckily I was given the usual free bowl of popcorn.
After about twenty minutes, I caught sight of CJ standing in the middle of the stage. I watched her for a while. She wasn't just pretty, she had a sophistication about her. When peso notes rained down from the balcony above, thrown by an ego-tripping Korean, she watched with a smile as all of the other girls screamed and scrambled for the money. She wasn't lowering herself to the rather demeaning spectacle.
I asked the waitress to call her down with her laser-pen. CJ was every bit as pretty as I remembered and greeted me with a smile. Sadly though, the chemistry we had a week ago had vanished. A week ago we had laughed and danced and held hands but tonight she was distant. I gave her the shell that she'd requested from Coron and she said thank you softly. Whenever I tried to make conversation, I hit a brick wall and we sat in silence. It was hard to believe that this was the same girl I'd had so much fun with a week earlier.
Maybe it was too early and she needed a few more drinks to relax? Or maybe she makes enough money from lady-drinks and tips to limit herself to the number of bar-fines she takes? If that was the case, it made perfect sense that she'the cherry-pick big-spending Koreans, like the old man I'the seen her leave with a week ago. I'm a young buck by comparison with pockets nowhere near as deep. Her coolness put me off. She was a breathtaking girl but she had all of the hallmarks of a starfish. I finished my drink and told her that it had been nice to see her again and left. Maybe she'the be warmer with me if I returned on another night.
I wanted to try somewhere new, so went to ALOHA BAR, halfway down Fields Avenue. The wall outside is painted like a beach but oddly the 14 girls on stage wore dresses instead of bikinis. I found this strange because surely a bar called Aloha lends itself to girls in bikinis! I didn't see any stunners but it's always worth hanging around for the next 'dance shift' whenever you visit a gogo bar. There were more lookers in the second set of girls, including a tall pretty girl who kept smiling at me and an older girl with big tits who danced with great enthusiasm. She'the be a good performer in the bedroom I&8200; thought. The bar-fine in Aloha is 1700 pesos. A waitress sat next to me who had a cheeky personality. She repeatedly kept asking me for a drink which was funny at first ('I'm tired, I need gasoline') but soon got irritating. I decided to leave but smiled to the tall girl on stage as I walked past. She was an option for later.
I decided to return to DRAGON'S DEN, to thank Ann for the night before. Lady Susuki, the Japanese looking girl with pale skin and big tits, was in the spotlight doing the splits. I fondly remembered Rosalyn from Cebu doing the same earlier in the trip. I&8200; bought Ann a drink and we watched 12 dancers doing an Egyptian themed dance routine. Some people think that the dances are childish but I think that they show the girls off in their best light, moving sexily and having lots of fun. One of the dancers was exceptionally pretty. If it wasn't for my rule about not bar-fining two girls from the same bar, I would definitely have called her down. Dragon's Den is definitely a must-visit.
There was brief excitement when a man celebrating his birthday rang the bell next to the stage. For 5500 pesos all of the girls sang 'happy birthday' to him. I'm sure he enjoyed the attention but he could have bar-fined three girls for 5500 pesos.
I kissed Ann goodbye and went to EMPEROR'S LOUNGE next door. 20 girls were stood on a narrow stage, shuffling around the metal poles. All were young and several were attractive. The air-con was very cold. It's a tactic that gogo bars use to make girls dance more but it wasn't working, they were hugging themselves to keep warm. I saw a very pretty girl wrapped in a blanket and even I was cold, wearing trousers and a long-sleeved shirt! I noticed a pale-skinned girl with fair hair, wearing number 919, who looked like CJ from Atlantis. I called her down and bought her a drink for 250 pesos. Her name was Mary-Jane, she was 22 and although she spoke little English, she seemed a lovely girl.
I asked a waitress nearby how much the bar-fine was. '3000 pesos but must leave at 2am' she said. Yet again the short-time curse had struck. It was midnight so I told the waitress that 3000 was too much to pay for just two hours. She smiled apologetically and shrugged her shoulders. You would think in such circumstances there would be room for flexibility but apparently not. I said goodbye to Mary-Jane and left. Some bars are on a downward spiral. Why pay 3000 pesos for just two hours with a girl when you could find a girl of similar quality elsewhere for 1800 all night? If enough customers vote with their feet like I did, maybe these bars will change for the better.
It was getting late. I was tempted to go to Typhoon to bar-fine Gillian or Dragon's Den to bar-fine Ann, but I wanted to find a new girl. I remembered the tall girl from Aloha and decided that she's be a good choice.
On my way to Aloha, I passed two young girls on Fields Avenue."Hello" they said in unison. One was very cute but her friend, a short girl with braces on her teeth, did the talking. 'We go with you for 3000 pesos' she said. A threesome with two young cuties was tempting but I decided to play it safe. Street-walkers represent more of a security risk and it's easy to imagine a scenario in which you are fucking one while the other is rummaging through your suitcase. The cuter of the two was as pretty as any girl I'd seen all night. Although she seemed very shy, she was wearing bright pink lipstick. She asked for 1500 pesos but I countered with '1000 pesos plus 500 tip if you make me smile'. She laughed and agreed.
I always enjoy the thrill of picking up freelancers but there are some golden rules: 1. Lock your valuables away. I haven't met a dishonest streetwalker yet but these girls are untraceable if something went missing from your room; 2. Always wear a condom. There might be a good reason why these girls don't work in a bar and bar-girls in Angeles have regular health-checks to make sure they are 'clean'; 3. Make sure that the girl is legal age.
We got back to my room and soon we were on my bed. She was a good kisser. She was gentle one moment and then next she'd deep French kiss me. Without encouragement, she leaned across me, unbuttoned my trousers and gave me a magical blowjob that belied her tender years. She sucked me slow and deep and then licked my dick like it was a lollipop. This girl had real skills.
I tried to slide her knickers off but she crossed her legs and told me that she was nervous. I told her that we could take our time but she sat on the bed awkwardly, looking at me with sad eyes. I wanted to fuck her but I never force girls to do anything they don't want to do. After she finished the blowjob, she fell asleep in my arms. I hoped that I had gained her trust and she would be less nervous in the morning.
I woke up in the middle of the night to Jennifer stroking my dick. It was rock hard. I'm not sure what time it was but it was dark. She kissed my chest softly and slowly worked her way down my body, expertly using her tongue. I felt her warm lips wrap around my dick and closed my eyes in sheer pleasure as she gave me another magical blowjob. That's what you call an alarm call.
I considered trying to remove her knickers but she was giving such an amazing blowjob, I lay back until finally I came in her mouth. She swallowed every last drop. She went to the bathroom, washed her mouth out and then came back to bed and cuddled up to me. Neither of us had spoken a single word. I went to sleep with a smile on my face.
Day 15, Saturday: Angeles.
As soon as I wokeGreat report SL, your experience paints a picture for those of us who have not yet experienced AC!
Very valuable info.
Her not letting you take her pants off could have been an indication of LB.
So I add a 4th golden rule about FLs,"Ask if they are a LB" and let them know how sour things will go if she is.
I had one in Cebu that was hesitant about taking a shower and taking it's pants off while I was in the shower and I kicked his ass out then and there.
BrainDrain
09-07-12, 08:24
I assume the Viagra being sold on Fields by the street vendors are fakes.
Does the Pharmacy further up on Perimeter sell legit without prescription?
Experiences appreciated.
BD
Sir Lancelot
09-07-12, 20:00
Her not letting you take her pants off could have been an indication of LB.The thought occurred to me but I've seen enough ladyboys and this girl definitely wasn't male. You can identify a ladyboy not so much through looks but mannerisms. If I had to guess I'd say that her health checks weren't clean. Fortunately her BJ skills made up for it.
Sir Lancelot
09-07-12, 22:19
Day 16, Sunday: Angeles.
Early morning Jennifer got out of bed and said that she had to go. I was disappointed that I never got to fuck her but despite her tender years, she'd given me two memorable blowjobs. I got her phone number as she might be a good option for later in the trip. Perhaps by then she'd be less nervous and willing to fuck me.
Deciding on how much to pay her was tricky. We'd agreed on 1000 pesos plus a 500 tip if I was happy with the service. When I take a hooker, I expect to have sex with her but I realised that she was nervous and, besides, she'd helped me fulfill a life-time fantasy of being given a blowjob alarm call. I paid her as agreed but told her "bigger tip if boom-boom next time".
It was 9am. I sent Gillian from Typhoon a text message asking if she would like to meet in the afternoon. I still had another week before I flew home to England and the trip was now delivering me some great girls. I fell back asleep and when I woke at 11am, I checked my phone. There was no message.
Early evening I went to ORCHID INN again for dinner. I've never had a bad meal there. Generally Filipino food is best avoided but adobo is always worth trying (meat marinated in a soy sauce). If that's not for you, Orchid Inn has plenty of international food and western favourites as well. On the down side, it's an open-sided restaurant and the ceiling fans do little to cool the place down. I watched a couple of attractive bar-maids as I waited for my food to arrive.
As I waited for my food, I worked out my strategy for the night. Although I enjoy visiting new bars, I wanted to revisit some of my favourites, to procure myself a stunning girl. 9/10 or higher. I'd ask her in the bar if she would stay all night and if she said no, I'd find another girl. It was 'long-time' or nothing.
On the opposite side of the road from Orchid Inn, is TROPIX. I walked in at 7. 30pm and it was packed with customers, mainly European or Aussie ex-pats. I was shown to a seat a long way from the stage. I like to sit close to the girls so I can make eye contact and build rapport but I didn't have a chance sat so far away. Two years ago Tropix had some pretty girls and they were topless too, wearing just bodypaint to spare their blushes, but the talent wasn't as impressive this time. On the plus side, the place has a great atmosphere and my San Miguel cost just 55 pesos (and lady-drinks cost 100 pesos all night) since it was 'happy hour'. Whenever girls hand you flyers in Angeles, it's worth keeping your eye out for promotions. I didn't see any girls that excited me so I finished my beer and left.
A few doors along is CRYSTAL PALACE. It was also very busy so I sat on a stool at the bar. 40 girls were crowded on to the stage but the girls danced on the same spot, meaning I couldn't see those at the back. All I could see was a heaving mass of nubile young bodies although to be fair, having 'too many girls on stage' isn't the worst criticism a gogo bar could have! Watching from the balcony above were another 15 girls include a few very pretty ones. The prettiest girl was number 512, a dark-skinned waitress wearing an elegant blue dress that showed off her curvy figure.
The bar is popular with ex-pats. A large guy trundled past, wearing shorts, sandals and socks, with his over-sized T-shirt tucked in to his bum-bag wrapped around his waist. It seems that when some people have 'pussy on a plate', they give up making an effort to dress themselves properly.
Next I went to CLUB ASIA as it's usually a good place to find pretty girls. Two years ago I found a 10/10 stunner in Club Asia named Antionette, but unfortunately she was a 'Cherry Girl'. Maybe she'd still be at the bar, two years older and available for sex I thought wishfully. A 'Hello Girl' walked me inside before asking 'you buy me lady-drink? '. Things like this put me off a bar. There were 20 girls on stage including a cutie I recognised from Emperors Lounge the night before. A waitress told me that Emperor's Lounge is directly above Club Asia and since they have the same management, the girls effectively work in both bars, alternating between the two.
Would I be toasting a 10/10 in CHAMPAGNE? It's an intimate bar with a stage running along one wall. All the seats facing the stage were taken so I was shown to a stool at the far end of the bar with a poor view. I ordered a bottle of water so I could gulp it down quickly. 15 girls were on stage but they were older than other bars, maybe in their 30's. Champagne wasn't totally flat though. I noticed a few had curvy bodies and of course sometimes experience goes a long way. Without doubt some of these girls would provide an excellent service amd the bar-fine is just 1600 pesos.
Next I sailed in to GOLDEN NILE. I walked up a few flights of stairs and was shown to a stool in front of a double-decker stage. 30 girls were dancing including some nice lookers. There were also several attractive waitresses including one who had a 5/10 face but one of the biggest racks I've seen in Asia. As a breast connoisseur I imagined burying my face in to them and decided that despite her average looks, she'd make my shortlist. In front of the stage is a small dance floor and a pretty girl with a perfect body kept smiling at me flirtateously. I was about to offer her a drink when she was called to sit with another guy. You've got to act quickly in Angeles if you see a girl you like. A 50-something man with a jet black wig called down a sweet-looking girl from the top floor of the stage. Golden Nile definitely has plenty of talent. The girls on stage cost 1800 pesos to bar-fine but the dancers cost a mighty 4000.
I went to BLUE NILE next. It's one of those bars where you need eyes in the back of your head as there are girls everywhere. Lots are dancing on stage or on the tables while others are sat on couches or are walking around, looking to latch on to customers. I spotted a very pretty girl on stage in a blue bra who looked fresh to the business, before I was distracted by a sexy girl walking past with great tits. I followed her with my gaze until I noticed another pretty girl smiling towards me, with fair hair. I recognized her from my previous visit. She had a confidence about her and seemed the perfect antidote to the shy girl I'd taken the night before. I called her over.
Her name was Karen and she was 26. I bought her a drink for 300 pesos and we clinked bottles. As we chatted and she pressed up against me, I noticed what a perfect body she had. Although she was slim, she had nice curves, as well as another turn-on of mine, a tongue piercing. I felt my cock stirring in your pants, how could I resist? I paid her bar-fine (2000 pesos) and Karen went to get changed. As I was waiting, I spotted a 10/10 girl on stage with a spectacular figure and a spell-binding face. Blue Nile is another of the must-visit bars in Angeles.
Karen re-appeared wearing a top that showed off her sexy figure. We walked back to my hotel hand-in-hand. She was a confident girl with a sparkle in her eye, so I was knew I was in for a good time.
I turned the TV on and found a movie but we didn't watch it for long. She pounced on me and straight away began unbuttoning my shirt. As she was attacking me with her lips, I realised that I'd forgotten to negotiate 'long-time' in the bar. Maybe that was why she wanted things to move so quickly, so she could leave as soon as possible?
She had a slim body with firm tits. I slid on a condom and fucked her slowly with lots of kissing and eye contact. It was like girlfriend sex. Slowly I stepped up the gears until I was fucking her fast'and'furious with her ankles on my shoulders."You crazy!" she gasped. When I asked why she said "you horny" with a smile. I told her that was her fault.
She rode me expertly and when I tried to lean up she pushed me back down on to the bed assertively. I love it when you unleash a tiger in the bedroom! We tried lots of positions but the highlight was when I spooned her in front of the mirror, with her leg lifted in the air, porn-style. This girl loved sex.
I could have fallen asleep afterwards but Karen had other ideas. We cuddled up to each other for 30 minutes before she started stroking me again, getting me hard for 'round 2'. It's always flattering when a girl initiates things and this was some of the most passionate sex I've ever had. We kissed passionately as we grinded our hips together and then she rode me furiously until we both came.
She collapsed on top of me and we held each other tight as we got our breaths back. What great sex.
I assume the Viagra being sold on Fields by the street vendors are fakes.I don't think that is a 100% true assumption although it is likely that some of the Viagra is fake.
I have purchased several types of "enhancement" drugs from vendors near Fields and other similar locations and they all "worked". The only ineffective drugs I bought in the PI were from a Mercury drug store.
I look at it this way: if the price is 50% of the drugstore price and I think that there is a greater than 50% chance that it is not fake (look at the seals; have them take it out of the box and look at the internal packaging, pill color, etc.) then it is worth the gamble. The only big risk is that there is "poison" or something in a fake version of the drug that will harm you and I have never heard of that happening.
Street Hound
09-08-12, 03:41
Day 10, Monday: Angeles.
We lay on the bed for a few moments before she said "we shower". In Thailand showering with your girl is the standard procedure but in Philippines it's very rare. I enjoyed lathering her nubile young body with soap-suds and noticed that her nipples were erect.I nearly always shower with the girls. Some will show a shy reluctance at first but nearly all will agree. One in the shower, they appear to enjoy being washed. It's a nice "ice-breaker" for things to come.
You assume correct but they contain the correct active ingredient (at least for Cialis it does).
For Cialis, don't pay more than P200 per box containing 2 blister packs of 2 each (Total 4 pills).
You may bargain for a lower price but at P200 it is a fraction of that in the real world.
Sometimes they may rip you off by giving you an empty box or box only containing 1 blister pack.
I assume the Viagra being sold on Fields by the street vendors are fakes.
Does the Pharmacy further up on Perimeter sell legit without prescription?
Experiences appreciated.
BD
for cialis, don't pay more than p200 per box containing 2 blister packs of 2 each (total 4 pills).absolutely right! always keep in mind that street vendors often ask for 500 pesos or even more! hence it is always good to know the 'correct price'. if i remember correctly the best deal i got was 500 pesos for 3 boxes.
cheers!
hesekiels
The street guys will ask what they think they can get away with. One tried to sell me a San Miguel shirt on Fields Ave in front of Kokomos for 1500 pesos during my last visit. I laughed all the way back to the ABC.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1324614]Day 16, Sunday: Angeles.
"There were also several attractive waitresses including one who had a 5/10 face but one of the biggest racks I've seen in Asia. As a breast connoisseur I imagined burying my face in to them and decided that despite her average looks, she'd make my shortlist".
Hi Lance, I want to thank you for a thorough report. I'll definitely be checking this out. Enjoy!
WestCoast1
09-08-12, 15:35
I assume the Viagra being sold on Fields by the street vendors are fakes.
Does the Pharmacy further up on Perimeter sell legit without prescription?
Experiences appreciated.
BDIt's not a good assumption that street vitamins are fake. I usually bring my own "C" when I come in-country, but if I run out I typically buy only the street stuff, wherever I am. You can talk the guy down to about 200-300 in most places. Contrary to what others say here about it being fake, I have yet to come across a street pill that didn't work.
I tried PM-ing you with some info, but you don't appear to have paid up a subscription (yet).
Sir Lancelot
09-08-12, 22:40
day 17, monday: angeles.
i woke to karen stroking my dick. this girl was a nymphomaniac! karen liked to take control. she'the be riding me before jumping on to all-fours and inviting me to fuck her doggy-style. then i'the be fucking her from behind when she'the lie on her back and spread her legs wide. i was happy to follow her lead.
what a girl. i suspected she would provide a great service due to her confident, flirtateous attitude and i was right. she clearly loved sex and initiated two extra 'pops' when she could have rolled over and fallen asleep. it made me realize that maybe there isn't a short-time culture in angeles after all. you can still find pretty girls who are willing to stay all night and give you lots of great sex.
unfortunately, with three energetic sessions with karen tucked under my belt, i had a serious sex tourist affliction. dick-ache. this was mainly caused by her riding me with such enthusiasm, she may aswell have been on a bucking bronco! i took karen's phone number before she left and tipped her a well-deserved 500 pesos.
days in angeles fly by. you say goodbye to one girl and before you know it, it's time to hunt for another. my plan was to try some new bars and find myself a new girl. as a backup plan, i'the got numbers for several girls i knew would provide great sex, for example ann from dragon's den, syra from dollhouse, gillian from typhoon or karen from blue nile. jennifer the freelancer was also an option, so long as sex was on the menu, and cj from atlantis would be a trophy girl. it's great to have options but my preference was to find a new girl.
i needed to get some cash out but angeles has surprisingly few atm's. the most convenient one to fields avenue is located in the foyer of wild orchid hotel but i went to one outside jollibee. as with all atm's in philippines, the maximum withdrawal was 10, 000 pesos. a security guard stood outside the cubicle, brandishing a gun menacingly.
energised, cashed up and motivated, it was time to find a girl. i decided to walk down fields avenue and enter bars with the prettiest 'hello girls'. it's always a simple yet effective way to choose bar!
i saw ann handing out flyers outside dragon's den, looking pretty. she grabbed my arm and tried to pull me inside but when i&8200; resisted she said 'i hate you' and turned her back, arms folded. for a moment i thought she was being serious but then she burst out laughing. it would be easy to bar-fine ann again but she was the type i could see myself getting attached to. on my first ever trip to thailand i made the mistake of spending four nights in a row with a beautiful young girl called lola who i met in a massage parlour. when the time came to say goodbye i was extremely heavy-hearted and vowed that i would never allow myself to get too close to a pay-for-play girl again.
i started at love and music. it has a sophisticated feel with comfy couches and a stage draped with white curtains. three girls were dancing and seven were sat on the sidelines, all of whom wore elegant dresses instead of bikinis. although there weren't many girls, the quality was good. all were young and slim, including a girl in a tight pink dress who i'the rate 8/10. the place has a two-tier bar-fine of 2000 or 3000 pesos and my san miguel cost 95 pesos.
a middle-aged korean man walked in and did something i hate. he walked up to the stage and slowly examined each of the girls before turning around and leaving without buying a drink. i find this disrespectful and insulting to the girls. the waitress i was chatting with shook her head and said 'koreans, they rude'.
next i went to welcome inn. there were no other customers which wasn't surprising given the unsexy exterior and lack of 'hello girls' outside. eight girls were dancing and although the quality was average, i was impressed by a slim blond with tattoos and a sweet young girl with a huge smile. despite the bar being empty, the girls were having lots of fun and were making jokes with each other. i wondered whether i was the subject of their humour. the bar-fine is just 1500 which is excellent value. as i've said before, these kind of bars are always worth a visit as they're invariably cheaper and there are always gems to be found.
i was halfway down my bottle of beer when an elderly korean man entered and walked up to the stage. he closely looked at each girl and then walked straight back out. the girls found this very funny but again i thought it was rude. i finished my beer and left. outside the bar i saw five promo girls walk past wearing red 'miss ikarus' sashes. one was a stunner with flame red hair, a 9/10 in my books. i'the never heard of ikarus but i made a mental note to visit.
it was 8. 45pm when i walked beneath the angkor what temple to enter cambodia. it looks small from the outside but is a long, narrow bar and there were 20 girls dancing. all of the girls clapped whenever a customer walked in which i thought was a nice touch (although it's probably a tactic to ensure customers stay for at least one drink). i was impressed by the standard of girls. a tall girl with dark skin looked like an african princess, with a slim figure and high cheekbones. she was very different, which i liked.
however, another girl caught my eye. she was plaiting her hair in to a ponytail and was just about the sweetest girl i'the seen. i asked a waitress to call her down to sit with me. the girl introduced herself by holding out her hand for me to shake. 'my name is jane' she said with a beaming smile. she had a cute innocence and i enjoyed chatting with her. she told me that she was 20 and was born in leyte, an island to the east of philippines. lady-drinks are either 150 or 300 pesos but i was happy to order a 'double' for such a nice girl. she told me that she was cold which was not surprising given the small bikini she was wearing, so i was more than happy to hug up to her. she had tiny boobs.
i asked about the bar-fine but she told me she was on her 'mens' so couldn't go with a customer. 'in a few days? ' she suggested. i was disappointed but she'the be a good option for another night. the bar-fine in cambodia is 1800 pesos.
i stepped back out on to fields avenue and saw jennifer, the cute freelancer i'the taken a few nights before. 'i saw you with another girl last night' she told me. we chatted and i was tempted to take her back to my room, hopefully for sex this time, but the night was young. i had her phone number so she'the be a good plan b.
a 'hello girl' wearing glasses grabbed my arm outside genesis and pulled me inside. i was planning to visit genesis anyway but i enjoyed being wrestled by her. it's one of the larger bars on fields with a rectangular stage in the middle, on which 35 girls were dancing. all were young and slim and the standard was excellent. every minute the girls took a few steps to their left to give customers a good view of all of the dancers. i like bars that showcase their girls.
a customer was sat nearby with calfs the size of tree-trunks. he was huge. he called down a pretty girl and talked with her for five minutes before he stood up, angrily. 'i've been coming here for 20 years! ' he shouted to a bemused waitress before stomping out. i asked the waitress what had happened and she told me that he had asked the girl if she was shaven and asked to see and when she had told him that she wasn't allowed, he got angry. power sometimes goes to people's heads. in angeles, you get treated like a king and he obviously thought he could get away with acting like an asshole.
speaking of which, a group of three young korean men walked in. a waitress tried to show them to some seats but they walked up to a table on which three girls were sat and arrogantly waved them away without a word, as if they owned the place. for the third time in the night i was left shaking my head at the sheer rudeness of koreans. in fairness i've witnessed many koreans who didn't act disrespectful on this trip and the incident just minutes earlier, with the large white man who wanted a free peek down a girls panties, proves that arrogance isn't just confined to koreans. surely it's not too much to ask that people come to places like angeles and treat the girls with the respect they deserve?
i really like genesis, it's another of the must-visit bars as there is an excellent selection of girls. i bought a drink for number 703, who was tall and pretty and had luscious lips. her name was celine and she was 25. she held my hand as we talked and told me 'i give good back massage'. how could i&8200; resist? the bar-fine was a 2000 bottle of 'party animal'.
twenty minutes later she was on top of me on my bed, giving me a back massage using baby oil. it felt good. when she finished we cuddled up to each other, her wrapped in a towel and she stroked my chest and whispered 'i just want to feel you'. before long we were gently kissing and she was caressing my dick until it was hard. she slipped her towel off revealing a lovely body with firm medium-sized breasts and erect nipples. her pussy was tight so i slowly inched in, as she held my hips and softly gasped. i sensed that she wasn't very experienced, so i was gentle. we fucked slowly, with lots of kissing, before she went on top and grinded her hips against mine. she liked to lean forward and rub her tits on my chest and when she did, i grabbed her hips and bounced her up and down on me.
before long she was riding me energetically, groaning loudly and fondling her own tits. unexpectedly she jumped off me and said 'suck'. i took the condom off and she gave me a great blowjob. she swept her long, cascading hair to one side which meant i had a great view as she sucked me until i came in her mouth.
afterwards we lay next to each other chatting. i like to talk to the girls and hear their stories. celine was a lovely, sweet girl who had a cute habit of mumbling to herself and giggling a lot. she told me that she was a single mother and was working in angeles to support her kid who was living with her aunt in manila. this is not an uncommon story from bar-girls in philippines.
we curled up to each other and fell asleep arm-in-arm.
day 17, monday: angeles.
i woke to karen stroking my dick. this girl was a nymphomaniac! karen liked to take control. she'the be riding me before jumping on to all-fours and inviting me to fuck her doggy-style. then i'the be fucking her from behind when she'the lie on her back and spread her legs wide. i was happy to follow her lead.
what a girl. i suspected she would provide a great service due to her confident, flirtateous attitude and i was right. she clearly loved sex and initiated two extra 'pops' when she could have rolled over and fallen asleep. it made me realize that maybe there isn't a short-time culture in angeles after all. you can still find pretty girls who are willing to stay all night and give you lots of great sex.
unfortunately, with three energetic sessions with karen tucked under my belt, i had a serious sex tourist affliction. dick-ache. this was mainly caused by her riding me with such enthusiasm, she may aswell have been on a bucking bronco! i took karen's phone number before she left and tipped her a well-deserved 500 pesos.
days in angeles fly by. you say goodbye to one girl and before you know it, it's time to hunt for another. my plan was to try some new bars and find myself a new girl. as a backup plan, i'the got numbers for several girls i knew would provide great sex, for example ann from dragon's den, syra from dollhouse, gillian from typhoon or karen from blue nile. jennifer the freelancer was also an option, so long as sex was on the menu, and cj from atlantis would be a trophy girl. it's great to have options but my preference was to find a new girl.
i needed to get some cash out but angeles has surprisingly few atm's. the most convenient one to fields avenue is located in the foyer of wild orchid hotel but i went to one outside jollibee. as with all atm's in philippines, the maximum withdrawal was 10, 000 pesos. a security guard stood outside the cubicle, brandishing a gun menacingly.
energised, cashed up and motivated, it was time to find a girl. i decided to walk down fields avenue and enter bars with the prettiest 'hello girls'. it's always a simple yet effective way to choose bar!
i saw ann handing out flyers outside dragon's den, looking pretty. she grabbed my arm and tried to pull me inside but when i&8200; resisted she said 'i hate you' and turned her back, arms folded. for a moment i thought she was being serious but then she burst out laughing. it would be easy to bar-fine ann again but she was the type i could see myself getting attached to. on my first ever trip to thailand i made the mistake of spending four nights in a row with a beautiful young girl called lola who i met in a massage parlour. when the time came to say goodbye i was extremely heavy-hearted and vowed that i would never allow myself to get too close to a pay-for-play girl again.
i started at love and music. it has a sophisticated feel with comfy couches and a stage draped with white curtains. three girls were dancing and seven were sat on the sidelines, all of whom wore elegant dresses instead of bikinis. although there weren't many girls, the quality was good. all were young and slim, including a girl in a tight pink dress who i'the rate 8/10. the place has a two-tier bar-fine of 2000 or 3000 pesos and my san miguel cost 95 pesos.
a middle-aged korean man walked in and did something i hate. he walked up to the stage and slowly examined each of the girls before turning around and leaving without buying a drink. i find this disrespectful and insulting to the girls. the waitress i was chatting with shook her head and said 'koreans, they rude'.
next i went to welcome inn. there were no other customers which wasn't surprising given the unsexy exterior and lack of 'hello girls' outside. eight girls were dancing and although the quality was average, i was impressed by a slim blond with tattoos and a sweet young girl with a huge smile. despite the bar being empty, the girls were having lots of fun and were making jokes with each other. i wondered whether i was the subject of their humour. the bar-fine is just 1500 which is excellent value. as i've said before, these kind of bars are always worth a visit as they're invariably cheaper and there are always gems to be found.
i was halfway down my bottle of beer when an elderly korean man entered and walked up to the stage. he closely looked at each girl and then walked straight back out. the girls found this very funny but again i thought it was rude. i finished my beer and left. outside the bar i saw five promo girls walk past wearing red 'miss ikarus' sashes. one was a stunner with flame red hair, a 9/10 in my books. i'the never heard of ikarus but i made a mental note to visit.
it was 8. 45pm when i walked beneath the angkor what temple to enter cambodia. it looks small from the outside but is a long, narrow bar and there were 20 girls dancing. all of the girls clapped whenever a customer walked in which i thought was a nice touch (although it's probably a tactic to ensure customers stay for at least one drink). i was impressed by the standard of girls. a tall girl with dark skin looked like an african princess, with a slim figure and high cheekbones. she was very different, which i liked.
however, another girl caught my eye. she was plaiting her hair in to a ponytail and was just about the sweetest girl i'the seen. i asked a waitress to call her down to sit with me. the girl introduced herself by holding out her hand for me to shake. 'my name is jane' she said with a beaming smile. she had a cute innocence and i enjoyed chatting with her. she told me that she was 20 and was born in leyte, an island to the east of philippines. lady-drinks are either 150 or 300 pesos but i was happy to order a 'double' for such a nice girl. she told me that she was cold which was not surprising given the small bikini she was wearing, so i was more than happy to hug up to her. she had tiny boobs.
i asked about the bar-fine but she told me she was on her 'mens' so couldn't go with a customer. 'in a few days? ' she suggested. i was disappointed but she'the be a good option for another night. the bar-fine in cambodia is 1800 pesos.
i stepped back out on to fields avenue and saw jennifer, the cute freelancer i'the taken a few nights before. 'i saw you with another girl last night' she told me. we chatted and i was tempted to take her back to my room, hopefully for sex this time, but the night was young. i had her phone number so she'the be a good plan b.
a 'hello girl' wearing glasses grabbed my arm outside genesis and pulled me inside. i was planning to visit genesis anyway but i enjoyed being wrestled by her. it's one of the larger bars on fields with a rectangular stage in the middle, on which 35 girls were dancing. all were young and slim and the standard was excellent. every minute the girls took a few steps to their left to give customers a good view of all of the dancers. i like bars that showcase their girls.
a customer was sat nearby with calfs the size of tree-trunks. he was huge. he called down a pretty girl and talked with her for five minutes before he stood up, angrily. 'i've been coming here for 20 years! ' he shouted to a bemused waitress before stomping out. i asked the waitress what had happened and she told me that he had asked the girl if she was shaven and asked to see and when she had told him that she wasn't allowed, he got angry. power sometimes goes to people's heads. in angeles, you get treated like a king and he obviously thought he could get away with acting like an asshole.
speaking of which, a group of three young korean men walked in. a waitress tried to show them to some seats but they walked up to a table on which three girls were sat and arrogantly waved them away without a word, as if they owned the place. for the third time in the night i was left shaking my head at the sheer rudeness of koreans. in fairness i've witnessed many koreans who didn't act disrespectful on this trip and the incident just minutes earlier, with the large white man who wanted a free peek down a girls panties, proves that arrogance isn't just confined to koreans. surely it's not too much to ask that people come to places like angeles and treat the girls with the respect they deserve?
i really like genesis, it's another of the must-visit bars as there is an excellent selection of girls. i bought a drink for number 703, who was tall and pretty and had luscious lips. her name was celine and she was 25. she held my hand as we talked and told me 'i give good back massage'. how could i&8200; resist? the bar-fine was a 2000 bottle of 'party animal'.
twenty minutes later she was on top of me on my bed, giving me a back massage using baby oil. it felt good. when she finished we cuddled up to each other, her wrapped in a towel and she stroked my chest and whispered 'i just want to feel you'. before long we were gently kissing and she was caressing my dick until it was hard. she slipped her towel off revealing a lovely body with firm medium-sized breasts and erect nipples. her pussy was tight so i slowly inched in, as she held my hips and softly gasped. i sensed that she wasn't very experienced, so i was gentle. we fucked slowly, with lots of kissing, before she went on top and grinded her hips against mine. she liked to lean forward and rub her tits on my chest and when she did, i grabbed her hips and bounced her up and down on me.
before long she was riding me energetically, groaning loudly and fondling her own tits. unexpectedly she jumped off me and said 'suck'. i took the condom off and she gave me a great blowjob. she swept her long, cascading hair to one side which meant i had a great view as she sucked me until i came in her mouth.
afterwards we lay next to each other chatting. i like to talk to the girls and hear their stories. celine was a lovely, sweet girl who had a cute habit of mumbling to herself and giggling a lot. she told me that she was a single mother and was working in angeles to support her kid who was living with her aunt in manila. this is not an uncommon story from bar-girls in philippines.
we curled up to each other and fell asleep arm-in-arm.lancelot.
great report. probably one of the best i have read on this forum. i like way you describe your experience in ac. i am still learning how to deal with the females there. i will hopefully return one day and will do some things different base on your experience. i do treat all the girls there with repect and yeah you are right some of the korean guys can be rude to the girls there. i like way how you dealt with the girl from altantis when you went back to get her and didn't treat you well. some of the girls will change thier attitude like the wind hhehehehehe it happen to me there too. i just moved on too many girls there to be upset when one of them don't treat you like a rock star when they see you. its too many there.
thanks
Lancelot.
Great report.Yes it was a great report, but did you have to quote the whole damn thing. Learn to edit the quotes or don't post. :(
Slim
Makeupaname
09-09-12, 11:42
Great reports sir L. The first thing I do now when signing on ISG is look for your reports.
One thing that stands out to me is if a girl stands you up or she's already taken, your don't let it spoil you time. You accept it, and move onto the next.
Sir Lancelot
09-09-12, 13:52
Day 18, Tuesday: Angeles.
After an enjoyable wake-up call with Celine, she left mid-morning. I gave her a 500 tip because her story had touched me and she'd been eager to please. These girls often make big sacrifices to support their family, so if they do a good job, tip generously.
I asked her to pose for some photos but she was quite shy in front of the camera. After she left I looked at the pics and was shocked at how photogenic she was. She looked absolutely breathtaking and had such confidence in her eyes. It's amazing how some girls can be so photogenic while others stiffen up.
In the four days I had been back in Angeles, I had bar-fined three great girls and been given a magical blowjob by another girl. I decided over breakfast to stay in Angeles for the remaining four days of my trip. Why go anywhere else? I'the fucked 12 girls so far, could I get up to the 20 mark?
My plan for the night was to visit the five Pasha Group bars. Carousel, Fantasy, Typhoon, Genesis and Pasha itself. They employ young, pretty girls and the bar-fine for all girls is a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. Best of all, there is a real effort to showcase them.
I started in CAROUSEL. I bought myself a beer and watched as the stage slowly rotated and pretty girls went past. It's good fun because girls will playfully flirt and smile to you and then disappear out of site as the carousel turns. When they slowly come back in to sight again, the flirting can recommence! I got served by an exceptionally pretty waitress. She was wearing a 451 badge and had an Indian look about her, in fact she reminded me of the lead actress from Slumdog Millionnare. On stage there was no shortage of lookers too. 312 had fair hair and nice curves. 820 had an sexy figure and 417 had a lovely face and her hair tied back in to a ponytail. I was impressed by Carousel, in a roundabout way.
Every hour a catchy tune gets played and the dozen waitresses do a dance in front of the stage. The waitresses are available for take-out too and I noticed a girl with an average face but huge natural tits. Filipino girls have larger boobs than their Thai counterparts but so far on this trip I hadn't taken any big-breasted ones. Maybe tonight was the night.
There were some pretty 'Hello Girls' outside PASHA wearing sexy tiger-print dresses. It has a curved stage in the middle on which 25 girls were dancing, wearing knee-high leather boots. As I was admiring them a waitress stood next to me and did that thing waitresses do in Angeles, when they gesture towards the girls with their hand. Whenever this happens I like to follow the direction the waitress is pointing and acted shocked when I see the girls on stage, as if I hadn't noticed them previously. I'm not noted for my acting skills but it usually raises a laugh.
Several caught my eye. 718 and 313 both had lovely faces and 329 was pretty too, with a big rack as an added bonus. A dark skinned girl wearing number 230 had the sexiest body. A waitress nearby accidentally knocked over a bucket of ping-pong balls, so I quickly jumped to my feet and grabbed them from the floor before demanded a tip. The girls found this funny.
I saw a leaflet on my table which made me laugh. It said 'Get the party started with a bottle of Party Animal! 2000 pesos'. It was the bit afterwards which amused me though. It said 'strictly no take-outs', with the word 'strictly' underlined. Haha.
Drawn in by a 'Girls Girls Girls' sign, I went to FANTASY next. Only ten girls were dancing and although the quality was similar to the previous Pasha bars, there were less to choose from. Because the bar is quite large inside and there weren't many girls, the place lacked atmosphere. Most bars in Angeles have music videos playing on TV screens but Fantasy had Mr Bean.
One girl caught my attention, wearing number 612. She was a 7/10 and was heaps of fun. She played jokes on the other girls and was a ball of energy. Girls with a wicked sense of humour are always worth considering. Despite her, I'the rate Fantasy below the other Pasha Group bars in terms of quantity and quality of girls.
Opposite the stage is a curtain leading through to Genesis. I was about to walk through to buy Celine a drink to thank her for last night when by coincidence I got a text message from her: 'Hello, I am not work tonight its my day off, I want to rest. Hope we can be friends'. It's easy to see how you could fall for a bargirl like Celine.
I decided not to go to Genesis. A bar-girl once told me that if a customer goes with another girl from the same bar, the girls gossip and wonder what the first girl did wrong to make the customer want a new girl. Celine was such a lovely girl I didn't want that to happen to her.
I am impressed with the Pasha bars. They have nice girls, are sensibly priced and they're well run. The emphasis is on showing the girls off and giving the customer the best possible view. The girls move around the stage and when they leave the stage, they do a lap around the bar. As a result you get to see every girl from the comfort of your seat.
At 9. 30pm I went to LOLLIPOP. It has a rectangular stage in the middle on which eight girls were dancing. One of them was wearing the tiniest pair of shorts imaginable and was extremely pretty with long hair down to her waist. I decided that she was a 10/10. An old lady who seemed to be the mamasan sat down next to me so I asked her how much the bar-fine is. 'Just 1600 pesos' she told me and, sensing money, hurriedly called a young girl to sit with me. I cursed to myself because I never wave girls away and wanted to buy a drink for the 10/10 girl on stage. However, the girl the mamasan had called was very cute. Her name was Rosa and although she was 21, she looked younger. Asian bar-girls always look younger than you think but they must have an I'd card to work in a bar, so you can be sure they are legal age. She had her tied back and had a cute habit of covering her mouth whenever she laughed. I bought her a lady-drink and we held hands.
After a while, a 5/10 with big wobbly tits sat next to me. 'My friend, she very big' Rosa said, gesturing towards her friends impressive assets. 'I hadn't noticed' I lied. Lollipop has a fun atmosphere and is popular with ex-pats, always a sign of good value. It was Tuesday which meant 'all day happy hour' and lady-drinks for 165 pesos.
Although Rosa was a lovely girl, she too much like Celine the night before, sweet and innocent. I was looking for something different. Had the mamasan not interfered, I'the certainly have bought a drink for the 10/10 with tiny shorts. But I was sat hand-in-hand with Rosa and didn't want to humiliate her by calling down another girl. I told Rosa it had been lovely to meet her and left. I was impressed by Lollipop. The bar-fine was cheap and yet I'the seen one of the prettiest girls. It goes to show that it pays to explore the bars.
I saw a pretty 'Hello Girl' with blond hair outside ONE EYED WENCH, so entered. It's set back from the street, so I&8200; walked down the narrow corridor sandwiched between Lancelot and Typhoon. It was illuminated by red lights that reminded me of some of the seedier streets of Amsterdam. Aaah, great memories. I've shagged over 70 girls from Amsterdam's red light district, including busty blonds, african princesses and some of the prettiest east-europeans imaginable. In fact it was when I had sex with a Thai girl called Oye that my Asian fetish was born. A year later I was on my first ever sex-tour to Thailand and the rest is history.
One Eyed Wench is a long narrow bar and 15 girls were dancing on a stage that stretched along the left-hand wall. As I was admiring them, I noticed the blond 'Hello Girl' from outside standing nearby, so offered her a drink. Her name was Ivy and she was 21 years old from Samar. Her hair was tied back and her pale skin made her look Japanese. She looked different to any girls I'the fucked in Asia and since my motto is 'variety is the spice of life', I asked about her bar-fine. She told me that she couldn't go with me because she had a hygiene check early next morning (all bar-girls in Angeles have regular health checks). 'Tomorrow night okay? ' she suggested. Although I was disappointed, at least I had another option for another night.
The bar-fine in One Eyed Wench is just 1500 pesos which is fantastic value considering the quality of girls. In fact, when the waitress told me I asked her to repeat herself because I thought she'the made a mistake! In Lollipop earlier and now One Eyed Wench, I'the seen girls who could easily command a 3000 peso bar-fine if they were in one of the larger bars, yet they were available for half price just because they worked in a small bar. It pays to shop around in Angeles.
It was 11. 30pm and decision time. Who would be my girl?
I had several good options but decided to go back to CAROUSEL as I'the been impressed with the girls earlier. I sat down at the same table with the same pretty waitress. I got chatting to her and found out that her name was Norri. There was a sophistication and elegance about her that made me think that she made her money through lady-drinks and not bar-fines. I turned my attention to the merry-go-round instead. There were several girls that interested me but I chose to buy a drink for a number 417, a distinctive girl I'the spotted earlier in the night. Her hair was tied back in to a ponytail and she had a models face with high cheekbones. Her name was Lorna, she was 21 and she looked even prettier up close. 'Wow' I thought to myself. I bought her a drink and we clinked bottles.
When I asked about her bar-fine though, she told me that she was on her 'menstruation'. I kicked myself, she would have been a great choice. It also meant that I couldn't try to bar-fine Norri because she'the seen me rejected by another girl and no girl wants to be second choice. I finished my drink and gave Norri a generous tip which made her smile.
Before I left, I saw something I've never seen in a gogo bar before. One of the dancers attacked a 'Tequila Girl' and the two had to be dragged apart, pulling at each others hair. 'This the third time a girl fight with her' said Lorna, 'she very boastful'.
I returned to PASHA, hoping to see number 329, who had a nice face and tits that looked like watermelons. But she wasn't there, no doubt already bar-fined by another boob-lover!
It was becoming a frustrating night. I'the wanted to chat with a 10/10 in Lollipop but a pushy mamasan had called me another girl instead. I'the wanted to bar-fine Ivy from One Eyed Wench but she had a 'health check' next day and Lorna from Carousel was on her 'mens'. Now I'the returned to Pasha and my favourite girl wasn't there either. This sometimes happens when you like to visit as many bars as possible in one night, like me. Sometimes it's just not your lucky night.
20 girls were dancing but none inspired me. They were all young but when you're in Angeles, you see so many girls only the best will do. A chubby waitress with a 5/10 face started lap-dancing for me. She wiggled her large bottom on my lap, making me hard, and gave me a great view down her top. She had nice tits and feeling her body close made me realize that I needed to find a girl as soon as possible. I sent a text to Jennifer, the freelancer, asking if she'the like to meet.
Where to now? It was nearly 1am so I decided to return to LOLLIPOP to bar-fine Rosa, the sweet girl I had bought a drink for earlier in the night. 15 girls were dancing and thankfully Rosa was still there. The reason I didn't bar-fine her earlier was because she was too similar to Celine from Genesis, but in terms of looks and attitude she ticked all of the right boxes. I like cute and innocent girls and she looked sexy in her tiny bikini. She'the be an excellent choice. She gave me a big smile when she saw me and I invited her down for another drink.
We helds hands as we chatted and I told her that I'the like to pay her bar-fine. 'I can't tonight' she said apologetically, 'I'm on my mens'! I felt like screaming. I'the been knocked back more times in one night than the whole trip put together! I'the never known a night like it. Bar-fining pretty girls in Angeles is normally the easiest thing in the world but tonight had been one set-back after another. I just wanted to get back to my hotel, fuck a girl. Any girl!. And fall asleep.
I decided to try a new tactic. Along Fields Avenue are lots of scantily clad 'Hello Girls' trying to drag you in to their bar. I would walk down the street and if I saw one I liked, I would bar-fine her on the street without even entering their bar. It's a cold and clinical way to get a girl as you don't have chance to get to know her first, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
As I was walking down the street, my phone rang. It was Jennifer. She told me that she'the like to see me, so we arranged to meet opposite Atlantis. My luck was changing. Five minutes later she walked up to me, looking cute. I told her that I would give her 1500 pesos if she stayed all night but 'only if boom-boom'. She nodded and we walked back to my hotel. A frustrating night was about to have a happy ending. Or so it seemed.
The signs didn't look good when she took 45 minutes to take a shower. There was nothing too unusual about that as bar-girls always enjoy the luxury of a hot shower in a nice hotel room. When she came out of the bathroom she was wrapped in a towel. We kissed on the bed but when I tried to pull the towel off, she held it tight. She told me apologetically 'no sex, I have boyfriend, only sex when married'. She couldn't look me in the eye.
'I told you on the street, only pay if boom-boom'. She looked sad, like she might cry. There was a vulnerability about her and I had no intention of forcing her to do anything she didn't want to do, so I gave her a hug, kissed her on the forehead and she fell asleep in my arms.
It had been a suitably frustrating end to a frustrating night.
I woke up and felt Jennifer's warm lips around my dick. It was dark. Slowly she sucked and after ten minutes I came in her mouth. She went to the bathroom to wash her mouth out and then crawled back in to bed. We fell asleep arm-in-arm, without a single word spoken.
What s this "don't copy the whole post or don't post here. Sometimes nicer to review this way. If you don't like it, don't read it. That simple. Attitude adjustment time.
Wolvenvacht
09-09-12, 18:42
What s this "don't copy the whole post or don't post here. Sometimes nicer to review this way. If you don't like it, don't read it. That simple. Attitude adjustment time.He could have said it more friendly, but his remark was actually fully to the point. Some of us read this forum on smart phones and then it is a real pain to have to scroll many screens up or down for no good reason.
WestCoast1
09-09-12, 19:03
What s this "don't copy the whole post or don't post here. SNIP.
If you don't like it, don't read it. That simple. Attitude adjustment time.M: Wolve and NV are right. We don't quote long posts (variety of reasons). The "netiquette" is to clip it to only the relevant point, and use the word SNIP where you clipped out a portion. Then put your comments in. Its akin to leaving the toilet seat down for your gf.
Day 18, Tuesday: Angeles.
It was 11. 30pm and decision time. .Maybe a little too late? Don't forget, the the early bird catches the worm! One thing more, wouldn't it be better to ask the girl if she is on her mens before paying 300 pesos for a drink? Just my 2 cents and the lessons I have learned in the past!
Otherwise an interesting post, brother!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Sir Lancelot
09-10-12, 00:12
Maybe a little too late? Don't forget, the the early bird catches the worm! One thing more, wouldn't it be better to ask the girl if she is on her mens before paying 300 pesos for a drink? Just my 2 cents and the lessons I have learned in the past!
Otherwise an interesting post, brother!
Cheers!
HesekielsThe truth is, I enjoy visiting the bars so much. I don't just want to bar-fine a great girl when I go to Angeles, I want to have a great night beforehand, visiting lots of bars, chatting with lots of girls and having lots of fun. I love the thrill of the hunt. I like to build a 'short-list' of favourite girls and then at about 11pm make my final decision. If I miss out on a 10/10 then it's not a problem because I can see her again next night, or the one after that. Also as perhaps my diary reveals, I enjoy the research element as well. If I bar-fined at 9pm every night, I wouldn't have been able to visit every bar on Fields.
I like to bar-fine later for tactical reasons too. If you bar-fine after 11pm, you are far more likely to get 'long-time'. It's not so important in Angeles but in Thailand for example, I will only bar-fine from Nana Plaza at about midnight and agree on 'short-time'. In most cases, the girl will end up staying for 'long-time' because it's late. If they do stay all night, I'll tip them extra in the morning.
Regarding ascertaining availability before I buy a lady-drink, I understand your reasoning but my modus operandi has always been to make my meetings with the girls as un-businesslike as possible. I'll buy them a drink, chat with them, play silly games and earn their friendship. Then if we've clicked, I'll bar-fine them. From personal experience this is more likely to lead to the 'girlfriend experience' than if I had treated it like a job interview in the bar and asked lots of questions and listed my expectations. By 'girlfriend experience' I mean stuff like kissing, holding hands, cuddling up to each other, eye contact and being playful in the bedroom.
Of course other guys do it differently and I respect that but I find that while doing it my way can lead to frustration from time to time, it means that if a girl stays all night you KNOW you are in for a 10/10 service. Take the girl I met in Blue Nile for example. We fucked when we got back to my hotel and I was ready to roll over and fall asleep and she initiated not one but two extra pops. I was exhausted next morning! She clearly liked me and I think a lot of that was down to the way I treated her in the bar. I think if you treat a girl too much like a prostitute, she will act like one and your chance of the girlfriend experience diminishes.
Thanks for the compliment by the way. I hope you enjoy the rest of my diary.
What s this "don't copy the whole post or don't post here. Sometimes nicer to review this way. If you don't like it, don't read it. That simple. Attitude adjustment time.The irony of your post, policing the guys who ae asking posters to adhere to some rules.
There is no need for guys to quote a long post just to say nice post, we are not dumb we can tell which post the reply about, are you a that dumb that you need the guys to quote the post?
We all own the forum, we create the content, there are some obvious rule and some subtle rules, you might want to learn them before you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off every one.
There is no need for guys to quote a long post just to say nice post, we are not dumb we can tell which post the reply about, are you a that dumb that you need the guys to quote the post?.Not to mention that a quote (even if heavily edited and cut) will carry the link to the original post. So ISG is dumb-proof!
Sigh. Let's not forget that (an ISG poster) was unnecessarily rude (feel free to PM if you disagree (you know who you are) and now Sir L posts are getting buried under the bickering. Telling someone to stop posting seems way over the top when one could have requested the big SNIP. If the guy feels offended, he could just quote a few more long posts and basically make everyone miserable for a while. The majic word "please" will usually get faster results with much less animosity.
Please SNIP or EDIT or CUT.
SNIP, SNIP, SNIP*Note 1: In my version of the English language "snip" is the sound of scissors cutting something. *Note 2: The ISG Master discourages writing in all CAPS, but he seems to be tolerant of appropriate usage. Thank you for reading! X
Has anyone stayed here before? Any problems with bringing girls back to your room? I'm planning a 10-12 day stay in Oct and this place got relatively high ratings on Agoda.
http://www.rumihotelangeles.com/rooms.php
On a related note, should I make a booking for the entire stay? Or should I just try it out for 2-3 days first? This is my first trip to AC and I'm not sure if there are a lot of rooms available during high season.
Any info would be much appreciated.
I like to bar-fine later for tactical reasons too. If you bar-fine after 11pm, you are far more likely to get 'long-time'. It's not so important in Angeles but in Thailand for example, I will only bar-fine from Nana Plaza at about midnight and agree on 'short-time'. In most cases, the girl will end up staying for 'long-time' because it's late. If they do stay all night, I'll tip them extra in the morning.
Regarding ascertaining availability before I buy a lady-drink, I understand your reasoning but my modus operandi has always been to make my meetings with the girls as un-businesslike as possible. I'll buy them a drink, chat with them, play silly games and earn their friendship. Then if we've clicked, I'll bar-fine them. From personal experience this is more likely to lead to the 'girlfriend experience' than if I had treated it like a job interview in the bar and asked lots of questions and listed my expectations. By 'girlfriend experience' I mean stuff like kissing, holding hands, cuddling up to each other, eye contact and being playful in the bedroom.
Of course other guys do it differently and I respect that but I find that while doing it my way can lead to frustration from time to time, it means that if a girl stays all night you KNOW you are in for a 10/10 service. Take the girl I met in Blue Nile for example. We fucked when we got back to my hotel and I was ready to roll over and fall asleep and she initiated not one but two extra pops. I was exhausted next morning! She clearly liked me and I think a lot of that was down to the way I treated her in the bar. I think if you treat a girl too much like a prostitute, she will act like one and your chance of the girlfriend experience diminishes.
Thanks for the compliment by the way. I hope you enjoy the rest of my diary.Good thought out report on AC. Experiences vary but I also believe in barfining after 11 PM. Mainly because I want to enjoy the bars and drinking. Runners are runners irrespective of what time you barfine them. As for being horny it depends on the girl and how long it has been since she had sex. Once a 18 year old girl fucked me 3 times in 2 hours and 2 more times in the morning. I guess it is that time of month when she was horny.
There are some who act in the bar saying they are horny but do not deliver in the room.
Generall what I like is good service from first few barfined girls. After that the sexual edge is off and can take it easy.
Sir Lancelot
09-10-12, 19:34
Day 19, Wednesday: Angeles.
I woke as the early morning sun-rays were coming through the window. Jennifer was kissing my chest, lower and lower before she wrapped her lips around my dick and began sucking. I was in heaven. I lasted about 15 minutes before I came with a shuddering climax. This girl specialised in alarm calls.
I had a dilemma how much to pay her. I'the told her 'no sex, no money' but she'the given me two great blowjobs and I had no intention of letting her walk out empty-handed. 1500 pesos is £22, a small price to pay for the pleasure she gave, yet she needed to be taught a lesson for her own good. Another customer could be a lot less understanding than me and it could get her in to trouble. It's not difficult to imagine someone fuelled with alcohol getting violent and demanding sex. I took a wad of notes out of my wallet and said 'last night I said no boom boom, no pay'. She nodded. 'But because you are such a nice girl, I will pay, but not 1500'. She looked sad. 'So I've deducted 5 pesos, is that fair? '. She smiled and took the 1495 pesos.
I craved fast food so had dinner at Jollibee. When I finished, I was ready to start my gogo crawl. After a week in Coron being a tourist, Angeles was proving to be a constant cycle of girls, girls, girls.
I wanted to visit bars I hadn't been to yet. At the top of Fields Avenue is a 'Walking Street' sign, like Pattaya's in Thailand. The first bar on the left after the sign is Q-BAR. It was 8. 20pm when I entered. 13 girls were dancing and two of them were bar-fine contenders. 417 had beautiful dark skin and a curvaceous body and 418 had short hair and kept flashing cute smiles in my direction. A drunk European man was having lots of loud banter with the waitresses (who loved the attention) and customers (who didn't). A small Korean man with thick glasses walked in, looked at the girls and walked straight back out again.
Next I went to LA BAMBA, a small bar near the junction with A&8200; Santos St. It has a similar layout to Lollipop next door with a small stage in the middle surrounded by seats. 12 girls were dancing. As is almost always the case in Angeles, the girls were all young and slim and a few were pretty. I saw a tall girl with an 8/10 face and when the next 'dance shift' climbed on to the stage, I spotted another looker with fair hair. There was an excellent atmosphere, aided by old rock'and'roll music like Elvis and Roy Orbison. I told the girls sitting next to me that the music was good but they didn't look convinced. The bar-fine in La Bamba is 1800 pesos.
I was pleased. I was finding high quality girls even in the smaller bars. Last night&8200; I'the been impressed with One&8200; Eyed Wench and Lollipop, now QBar and La Bamba had impressed me. That's why it pays to visit lots of different bars.
I was on the lookout for a sexy girl so thought OWLS NEST could be the perfect vantage point. It was quiet inside with only seven girls dancing and hardly any customers. It was a large bar so the place lacked atmosphere. A few of the girls were nice though, including a cute young girl with curly hair who was obviously very shy. When I looked over to her, she looked away quickly. A mamasan sat down next to me and gestured towards a tall girl and asked 'you like long legs? '. I smiled politely to which she said 'Ah, you like short girls! ' and pointed towards the shy girl. I told her 'I like both. My perfect girl has one long leg and one short leg'. The girls onstage laughed at my joke. Asian girls always seem to like silly humour. The bar-fine is 1800 pesos.
Could I find a whirlwind romance in TYPHOON? I hadn't seen Gillian since she stood me up. I hoped it might make her apologetic and eager to please but sadly she wasn't there. She was undoubtedly one of Typhoon's prettiest girls so had probably already been bar-fined. I did see the Japanese looking girl though, who had a lotus flower in her newly curled hair. She's another of Typhoon's popular girls and predictably was sat with an Asian customer. Any young girl with big tits and blond hair is always going to be a hit with the Asian clientele. She recognised me and blew me a kiss as I walked past. If I didn't see Gillian again, I'the definitely be interested in bar-fining her. Although she had a cute face, her playful personality suggested great sex. A week ago she flashed me her tits so she definitely wouldn't be shy. I noticed a few more pretty girls on stage and decided that Typhoon is definitely another must-see.
I decided to return to ONE EYED WENCH to bar-fine Ivy, the pretty blond I'the bought a drink for the night before. Outside was another pretty 'Hello Girl', also with blond hair. She smiled and said 'hi handsome' as I walked in. Inside the bar I looked for Ivy but couldn't see her. I asked a waitress but she told me 'it's her night off'. Last night Ivy had told me that she'the be available tonight, so I&8200; wondered whether she had been bar-fined.
A young girl with braces on her teeth sat next to me and a waitress bullied me in to buying her a drink (150 pesos). She gulped it down quickly before excusing herself and rushing to sit with a man on the other side of the bar who was splashing his cash. She hadn't even told me her name. I wasn't impressed and told the waitress so. 'She finish drink sir' she said but I pointed out that when I buy a girl a drink, I expect them to sit with me for more than two minutes!
Another young girl joined me who was tiny in stature but big on personality. She sat astride me and grinded on my lap. At that moment the attractive blond 'Hello Girl' from outside walked past. She pretended that she was jealous and pulled a tongue at me. She was a gorgeous girl and I was definitely interested but she was watching me with a young nymphette grinding on my lap. Although it was nice feeling the young girls hot body pressed against me, she was a 6/10 and I was more interested in Ivy or the other blond 'Hello Girl'. I could always come back another night.
I walked back out on to the street and saw Jennifer. I wondered whether she had planted a tracking device on me because we seemed to bump in to each other a lot! She looked cute in a blue dress but I wanted more than just a blowjob tonight.
The time was 11pm when I walked in to CRYSTAL PALACE. There was a 'Miss Club Asia' fashion show going on with lots of pretty girls wearing elegant dresses parading around the stage with big smiles painted across their faces. After the show the stage became crowded with over 40 girls. An old Korean man threw 20 peso notes down from the balcony above. He got the screams he was after and I loved the irony that Jessie J's song 'it's not about the money, money, money' was playing.
My eyes were drawn to a sexy girl with a curvy figure who loved to dance. She obviously loved attention because she was right at the front of the stage. She was an exhibitionist, the type of girl who would surely be a tiger in the bedroom.
I asked a waitress to call her down. Up close she was very pretty. Her name was Maui and I was surprised to find out that she was just 19 given her confidence on stage. I offered to buy her a lady-drink and the waitress asked '300 pesos, is that okay? '. As ever, it's difficult to insist on the cheaper option when you're sat next to a girl you might want to fuck later. 'That's fine' I lied.
Maui told me that she wanted to dance, so took me by the hand and led me to a stool in front of the stage. She danced right in front of me, giving me a close-up view of her sexy figure. I was hypnotised. She had a perfect body and knew how to use it. She moved her hips like a Brazilian samba dancer and ran her hands over her body sexily, licking her lips as she did so. She was telling me 'this could be all yours tonight'.
How could I resist? The bar-fine was 3000 pesos, the top-end for Fields Avenue, but I knew I was paying for a guaranteed wild-time with a gorgeous girl who knew how to use her body. She was exactly the type of girl I was looking for after the sweet, innocent types I'the taken in recent nights. She said 'okay' and went to get changed. After the frustrations of the night before, I was relieved to find out that she wasn't on her 'mens' or due for a health-check!
She reappeared ten minutes later wearing a tight top and a tiny pair of shorts that showed off her figure perfectly. We walked hand-in-hand back to my hotel.
After we showered, I marveled at her naked body as she lay beside me on the bed. She gave me a nice blow-job before looking me in the eye and saying 'fuck me'. I did as I was told. She lay back and spread her legs wide and I slid in to her juicy pussy. It was an energetic session with lots of kissing. The highlight was fucking her doggy-style. She watched in the mirror as I slapped in to her lovely round arse, her tits swinging back and forth. She was fascinated by the mirror, so I spooned her in front of it, fucking her from behind. It's supposedly a good position for the girl as penetration is deep, so every minute I thrust my dick as far in to her as possible and watched as she rolled her eyes in pleasure.
She then rode me, grinding her hips on mine while fixing me with a sexy stare as I held her lovely tits. In one smooth movement I flipped her on to her back and fucked her in missionary again. We kissed passionately and she grabbed the headboard on the bed as I fucked her harder and faster. She groaned loud enough to wake everyone in the hotel and we came together.
Without question Filipino girls are carnal creatures and lead the world for sexual performance. If there was a sexual Olympics, Filipino's would claim gold every time (and I'the be more than happy to attend the leg-opening ceremony).
Disappointingly, she asked if she could leave shortly afterwards. She had been in my room for just an hour and it had cost me 3000 pesos plus two lady-drinks and tips. That's about £60 which is nearly how much I would pay to fuck a big-boobed model in Manchester! Although it had been great sex, it was poor value in this part of the world and further evidence that a short-time mentality is alive and kicking in Angeles. It was my own fault of course. Had I specified 'long-time' in the bar, she's have stayed all night, but I forgot, so she didn't. I'd be a far better sex tourist if I didn't allow beer to addle my brain.
My appoligies as I didn't realize about texting you need to keep things snipped. I don't use that service and thus not familar with it. Did I say that correctly in reguard to the snipping. Anyway I am sure you uunderstand. Xman is correct about the rudeness. F3, I believe the dumb and rude one is you. You can now crawl back into your slums and no I don't care what you think of me. Most likely the same way I feel about you.
A little politeness goes a long way. Lets get off this and talk about what this forum is suppose to about.
First time going to AC. Will there be some good weed for me to buy?How long do you think that post will last, honestly? Or your forum membership?
Drugs are available everywhere. There used to be a huge number of US sailors and airmen in this provence, so if you are silly enough to use drugs in a foreign country roll the dice with the Philippino justice system, you will find good dope. I hear the gaols there are REALLY nice too.
Screaming Beaver
09-11-12, 01:26
First time going to AC. Will there be some good weed for me to buy?Yes, there is cannabis for sale however I don't think it would qualify as 'good' by medicinal marijuana standards. If you smoke enough of this marginal local weed, you will get high. Most people come here for other reasons.
Cunning Stunt
09-11-12, 03:07
First time going to AC. Will there be some good weed for me to buy?Adds to the experience but not advisable in AC. Many trike drivers will supply but more than likely set you up. And then you will be paying big money to extricate yourself from the shit. Go to Amsterdam if you want a little puff with your pussy.
GosiwonBusan
09-11-12, 07:05
I am in AC now, and had an interesting experience that I wanted to share and ask more generally about.
First up, Sir Lancelot, I love your style of writing, it is generally on topic, and this forum goes off topic a lot, and very informative, current bars, prices and locations. Thanks for sharing your diary, I however, won't share mine, sorry.
OK, this is my second time in AC. I travel here alone and meet ISG members via PM.
First up, I am not a bell ringer, or a drinks all round kinda guy, thats not me at home, or here.
Last night there was three of us in a random bar, we had a free drink voucher for some s*why drink, but spent 30 minutes talking to a cute girl, didn't buy her a drink, just chatted. No pressure in this bar. Then we went to Tropix (next to Crystal Palace, behind DollHouse) and my 2 friends saw a number of girls that they liked, we called them over (4 girls) , and during the next 3 hours or so we brought drinks more or less as asked, we also got some food. The main issue I had was the music. It was impossible to dance to and the girls on stage looked as bored as the girls with us. Anyway, my buddy organised a bar fine (1800) for the girls. 1 said no "mens", and 1 just wasnt interested and chatted with other customers. We were going to High Society, as it was about 11. 30. (total bill about 7000) As we left Tropix a random girl in a red dress showed up, and talked to the 2 girls that we had bar fined. We went to Hi Soc, and got drinks all round, danced a lot, and got more food. 1am. Time to go home, well. Here was the issue, the 3 girls lived together, the girl in red dress had been bar fined earlier and let go by her customer, so they wanted to go home together. None of us three was going to force them to do something that they didn't want, and after some confusion they were gone. I went back to the unnamed random bar, got 1 drink for me. 1 for her, then bar fined (2000) , and back to my hotel at 3am, for a serious session. I had to tell her to sleep. When she woke, she was horny, and I told her to let me sleep. I have seen a number of really stunning girls still in the bigger bars at 2 or 3.
So, here is my point / question. I want to enjoy myself, and have a good time, but on a few occasions the girls I have spent the least amount of money on, have given me the best time.
Is this generally the case? Is it better to bar fine quickly, go to the hotel, then go back out, and have fun? Any suggestions?
Wicked Roger
09-11-12, 10:14
First time going to AC. Will there be some good weed for me to buy?HR you have 5 posys and could easily be trying to casue trouble with such an inappropriate post!
CS. Even Amsterdam had banned selling wacky backy to non nationals. Or so I think.
HR . Keep to the pussy is safer (most of the time LOL). And posy some informative FR about DR as you were ther recently?
CS. Even Amsterdam had banned selling wacky backy to non nationals. Or so I think.Afaik, there ist still a transition period right now. But for 2013 you're right.
Gentlemen,
I am going to be in AC for an unplanned couple of nights, but with business during the day, on my way to La Union and back. And I will be knackered.
It would be very nice to be able to get in contact with a girl who gives superlative BBBJ, preferably with LT.
Can anybody give me contacts, or direct me to a specific girl in a specific bar who is an outstanding performer.
Thanks in anticipation,
G
I am in AC now, and had an interesting experience that I wanted to share and ask more generally about.
First up, Sir Lancelot, I love your style of writing, it is generally on topic, and this forum goes off topic a lot, and very informative, current bars, prices and locations. Thanks for sharing your diary, I however, won't share mine, sorry.
OK, this is my second time in AC. I travel here alone and meet ISG members via PM.
First up, I am not a bell ringer, or a drinks all round kinda guy, thats not me at home, or here.
Last night there was three of us in a random bar, we had a free drink voucher for some s*why drink, but spent 30 minutes talking to a cute girl, didn't buy her a drink, just chatted. No pressure in this bar. Then we went to Tropix (next to Crystal Palace, behind DollHouse) and my 2 friends saw a number of girls that they liked, we called them over (4 girls) , and during the next 3 hours or so we brought drinks more or less as asked, we also got some food. The main issue I had was the music. It was impossible to dance to and the girls on stage looked as bored as the girls with us. Anyway, my buddy organised a bar fine (1800) for the girls. 1 said no "mens", and 1 just wasnt interested and chatted with other customers. We were going to High Society, as it was about 11. 30. (total bill about 7000) As we left Tropix a random girl in a red dress showed up, and talked to the 2 girls that we had bar fined. We went to Hi Soc, and got drinks all round, danced a lot, and got more food. 1am. Time to go home, well. Here was the issue, the 3 girls lived together, the girl in red dress had been bar fined earlier and let go by her customer, so they wanted to go home together. None of us three was going to force them to do something that they didn't want, and after some confusion they were gone. I went back to the unnamed random bar, got 1 drink for me. 1 for her, then bar fined (2000) , and back to my hotel at 3am, for a serious session. I had to tell her to sleep. When she woke, she was horny, and I told her to let me sleep. I have seen a number of really stunning girls still in the bigger bars at 2 or 3.
So, here is my point / question. I want to enjoy myself, and have a good time, but on a few occasions the girls I have spent the least amount of money on, have given me the best time.
Is this generally the case? Is it better to bar fine quickly, go to the hotel, then go back out, and have fun? Any suggestions?Word of advice. If you are looking for sex take the preferred girl to the room ASAP. If you are looking for GFE date take her drinking and dancing. These girls are well experienced in conning guys like you. Ofcourse no force should be used to get sex.
IMHO these girls think differently. Once I barfined a real pretty girl from Agasya and we had a good night with multiple sessions. In the morning she wanted to go for a trip to Subis just to see. She was only 18 and just started working in AC. She asked me if we can take her experienced friend also. I said OK. She told her friend that we never had sex and just slept only. Her friend asked me and I told the truth and later told the girl why she lied. She just smiled shy. I guess if they conned people without giving sex they would get some merit points.
Has anyone stayed here before? Any problems with bringing girls back to your room? I'm planning a 10-12 day stay in Oct and this place got relatively high ratings on Agoda.
http://www.rumihotelangeles.com/rooms.php
On a related note, should I make a booking for the entire stay? Or should I just try it out for 2-3 days first? This is my first trip to AC and I'm not sure if there are a lot of rooms available during high season.
Any info would be much appreciated.I have stayed there twice and liked it a lot. Very quiet and max 100 PHP tricycle from Fields. No hassles at all with girls. I paid about 1, 500 PHP / night. They have an excellent free shuttle service to Fields or the Mall. For breakfast I can recommend the Dutch / Filipino / Greek restaurant next door (must be the only one in the world!) or Bretto's which is at the top of the road.
Sir Lancelot
09-11-12, 21:59
Day 20, Thursday: Angeles.
The day got off to a bad start when I&8200; was woken by a knock on the door. 'What time are you checking out sir? ' a female voice called. After a brief discussion it transpired that the cleaning staff needed to prepare my room for another guest. When I checked in I had told the receptionist that I would be staying for "five days at least" but stupidly I had forgotten to inform them that I intended to extend my stay. Subsequently they had booked my room out to someone else.
I cursed to myself as I hastily packed. After I checked out I walked the short distance to Hotel Natalia. It's a far bigger hotel with a glass-fronted foyer and restaurant / lounge area opposite a long reception desk. There were no 'standard rooms' available but I wasn't in the mood to traipse around with my luggage looking for a hotel, so agreed to pay extra for an 'executive room'. It cost 2200 pesos and the price included breakfast. I slumped on to my freshly made bed and fell back asleep.
I had two full days left in Angeles and wanted to go out with a bang. I'the hoped to fuck 20 girls on this trip but I'the only managed 14 so far. If it wasn't for the slow start in Manila, a few girl-free nights in Cebu and&8200; Angeles and spending two nights with Jennifer, the freelancer who refused to have sex, I'the surely have reached my target. Even so, I wanted to fuck as many girls as possible before I returned home.
As a result my plan for the day was to fuck two new girls. A girl for 'short-time' during the afternoon, giving me plenty of time to bar-fine another from Fields Avenue that night.
On the two minute walk to PONYTAILS from my hotel, I bought myself some counterfeit Oakley sunglasses from a street vendor. The bar was busy when I walked in at 3. 40pm. Six girls were dancing and a dozen were sat on couches around the stage. There were about 20 customers spread around the bar, some of whom were chatting with girls. It was clearly a popular place. I got a prime seat in front of the stage. Not only did I have a great view of the girls on stage, I also got a closeup view of the girls who weren't.
I bought myself a drink and surveyed the talent. There were more pretty girls than my previous visit. 1118 stood tall like a model. 1149 had a lovely face but seemed shy while in contrast 430 was great fun. She had a cheeky personality and invited me up to dance with her which bought a cheer from all of the girls. Although it would have been fun, I declined her offer. Soon there were over 20 girls on stage, all young and slim. The quality was easily on par with some of the best bars on Fields Avenue. The bar-fine is 1800 for those wearing white labels and 1500 for those wearing orange. As is often the case in Asia, some of the so-called 'cheaper' girls were as pretty as the ones that cost more.
Ponytails has other plus points too. It has a relaxed atmosphere, the girls have lots of fun and there isn't any pressure to buy lady-drinks. A girl sat down next to me. She wasn't my type but was a bubbly character. 'See any girl you like? ' she asked and at that exact moment I saw an absolute stunner walk on stage, wearing number 1147. I pointed to her. 'She my friend! We live together! ' the girl chimed and moments later I was sandwiched between them both on the couch. I bought them both a lady-drink at 150 pesos each.
The girl I had called down was more breathtaking up close. She had a dazzling smile and fun personality too. Her name was Yannie. The girls chatted in Tagalog before her friend, Tasmin, told me that Yannie thought I looked like her favourite actor. 'She drools over him! ' she said and the girls fell about on the couch laughing.
I enjoyed chatting with them. Tasmin proudly told me that she was bought 12 lady-drinks the night before. Assuming that some were doubles, that would mean she earned about 1000 pesos just from lady-drinks. It's not surprising that popular girls sometimes want to stay in the bar, earning easy money without having to spread their legs.
The two ganged up on me and starting tickling me. As I wrestled with Yannie on the couch, she said 'ooh la la! '. I loved this girl and she seemed to like me, so the time had come to bar-fine her. It cost 1800 pesos (about £25) which is great value considering the quality of girl. I enjoyed the short walk back to my hotel with her. We passed a few bars and I could see other men admiring my choice of girl.
Ten minutes later she was on top of me, kissing me passionately. She seemed to enjoy biting my bottom lip and nibbling my ear-lobe, then darting her tongue in to my ear, which I loved. We pulled each others clothes off and, wow, what a body! She was tall and slim, with firm, medium-sized tits. She sat astride me on the bed as we continued to kiss and then leaned forward, inviting me to suck her nipples. They were erect and she groaned 'mmmmm' as I sucked them.
She noticed that I was hard, so slid down my body and gave me a nice, slurpy blowjob. It felt good but I wanted to fuck her. I put a condom on and, as always, started on top, sliding in and out slowly, as we continued to kiss. After a few minutes I leaned upright and fucked her harder and faster. It was great sex. One moment it was soft and gentle 'girlfriend sex' with lots of kissing and eye contact, then suddenly she became transformed in to a tiger.
As she rode me, slowly rocking her hips on mine, she dragged her fingernails across my chest, leaving red scratch-marks. Then she jumped on to all-fours and demanded 'doggy'. As I was fucking her from behind she said 'harder harder, oh yeah'. I dutifully obliged. It's great when you meet a pay-for-play girl who genuinely loves sex and wants to take the lead. We fucked in 'reverse cowgirl' (her on top facing away) and then finished with her riding me again. 'Tell me when' she said as she frantically rocked her hips on mine. It was a wonderful sight, seeing such a pretty girl, eyes closed and face contorted in pleasure, really going for it. We came together and she collapsed on top me, me still inside her, and we both tried to get our breaths back.
Afterwards we fooled around with each other and I took lots of photos. I regretted that I hadn't met her earlier in the trip. Not only was she beautiful with a perfect body, she had a great personality. The fact that she was such a great performer in the bedroom was the icing on the cake. I considered asking her to stay all night but my plan was to find another girl. I was on my traditional last dash for the finishing line, trying to fuck as many girls as possible. I gave her a good tip before she left.
I showered, got changed and ate at Orchid Inn. By the time I had finished it was 8. 55pm. I don't like starting late. Most bars on Fields Avenue open at 7pm and you've got to arrive early to compete with the early-bird Koreans. Then again, there are so many girls on Fields&8200; Avenue, stunners can be found all through the night.
I started at BODY&8200; SHOP. It gets good reports online but it looked sleepy from the outside. I didn't have high hopes as I walked in through the wild-west swinging doors but the 25 girls on stage were possibly the cutest selection I'the seen in Angeles. They screamed and clapped when I walked in. I know they probably do that for all customers but it's still good for the ego!
In some bars the girls look bored but these girls danced with great enthusiasm. There was plenty of talent too. I saw four gorgeous girls and the second dance shift was equally impressive. They didn't wear numbers but I made a mental note of my favourites. A lady-drink is 150 pesos and the bar-fine is 1800 pesos. Body Shop is undoubtedly one of the best bars in Angeles.
Next door is AGASYA. It's a big room filled with couches in front of a large stage. The customers were all Korean except me. Three girls were shuffling on stage, including a very attractive blond. When they left the stage, they were replaced by three pretty girls wearing red dresses. I asked a young waitress sat nearby about the bar-fine. She told me that waitresses cost 2000 pesos, the models (in red) cost 2200 pesos and the 'show girls' cost 3000 pesos. It struck me as a typical Korean place: expensive with no atmosphere, just a handful of good looking girls shuffling 'sexily' to soft-rock power ballads.
I decided to try a few small bars. In VALHALLA there were seven girls dancing in cute blue outfits. The quality was average except one girl with a spectacular body. She was the type I couldn't help mentally undressing.
A few doors down is RHAPSODY. It was so small inside, I could reach forward and touch the girls on stage from my seat (I didn't though, you get a reputation for doing stuff like that). Five girls were dancing including a fresh-faced cutie who leaned forward and said 'my name is Lika. Lika virgin'. She had a tiny body but a big beaming smile, so I invited her down for a drink. She was 21. Sadly the conversation soon ran dry so I left when I finished my drink. The bar-fine is 1800 pesos, the cost of 12 lady-drinks.
A number of times in this diary I have pointed out the rude behaviour of Koreans, but in Rhapsody I was sat near a Korean man who was good fun and had lots of banter with the girls. An older waitress flirted with him, so he led her by the hand to a dark corner of the bar and simulated sex acts with her, much to the amusement of all of the girls.
It was 11. 15pm and the time had come to choose my girl. I returned to BODY&8200; SHOP and although the number of girls had thinned down to 15 per dance shift, there were still plenty of cute ones. I felt a tingle of anticipation as I knew I would be taking one of them. There were several strong candidates but I called down a pretty girl with long hair, who flashed me lots of cute smiles from the stage. Her name was Merical and she was 19. I bought her a drink and quickly decided that she'the be a good choice as she was sweetness personified. Her bar-fine was 1800 pesos.
The rooms in Natalia have a key-card system which means that whenever you leave your room, the air-con switches off automatically. As a result, the room is very warm when you get back from a night out, not ideal if you've got a girl and want to get down to action straight away. After five minutes we were naked and stroking each other. She gave me a gentle handjob as I fondled her small tits. She seemed unsure of what to do, before asking 'You have condom? '. I nodded and she said 'we have boom boom now'. Then followed one of the weirdest sexual experiences I've ever had.
She lay back and I slid in to her tight pussy. She didn't move at all, she just lay there motionless, like a sex-doll or most hookers from Amsterdam. Her eyes were tightly closed as I fucked her. The room was still warm, so after five minutes I asked her to go on top. She lay flat on top of me, her head next to mine, and wiggled her hips quickly. Although it was probably the most inexperienced sex I've ever had, it felt great being vibrated to a climax by her tight young pussy while holding her body close. After I came, she lay on top of me for ten minutes, her pussy clenched around my dick in a vice-like grip. I suspected she was new to the business and I was her first ever foreign customer.
It had been a memorable day. Two very different girls and two very different experiences.
Sir Lancelot
09-11-12, 23:51
Ps. I apologise for some of the strange reformatting in my report, especially the third paragraph. I'm not sure why that happens because it doesn't look like that when I preview it beforehand.
BrainDrain
09-12-12, 00:21
The rooms in Natalia have a key-card system which means that whenever you leave your room, the air-con switches off automatically. As a result, the room is very warm when you get back from a night out, not ideal if you've got a girl and want to get down to action straight away. After five minutes we were naked and stroking each other. She gave me a gentle handjob as I fondled her small tits. She seemed unsure of what to do, before asking 'You have condom? '. I nodded and she said 'we have boom boom now'. Then followed one of the weirdest sexual experiences I've ever had.Great update SL. Much appreciated.
For hotels with the card system, I ask for two cards when I checkin, or I go back and ask for a second card. I leave one in the card system and carry the other for access.
Usually after the room has been serviced they remove the card but it is easy to put back in for the business part of the day.
I miss Angeles.
BrainDrain
09-12-12, 00:34
I was recently disappointed in High Society to see a lady organising some of the girls. As it turned out we were having a good time (or so I thought) with a couple of girls, dancing and drinking and carrying on. The a girl, multiple phone in her hands, dropped by the table and chatted to the girls. After she left, the next topic of conversation was the price of taking them home. At P2000 for a freelancer, it was unreasonable.
I think the girls should be more upfront. In SIN at Orchard the conversation so easily goes around to the price and then everyone can move on. I was genuinely surprised at how far the girls will party with youbefore they ask for money and change the night. The really funny thing for the boss lady is, if the girl had come back and had a good night, she would have got the money anyway. On principle I was preapred to move on. Not exactly hard to find a girl in AC.
I'm just having a rant against these bully organisers. If they want to organise girls, do it ostensibly, like the bar owners do.
BTW, I love the Philippines, the whole word is just upside down compared to my home county.
BD
I am in AC now, and had an interesting experience that I wanted to share and ask more generally about.
First up, Sir Lancelot, I love your style of writing, it is generally on topic, and this forum goes off topic a lot, and very informative, current bars, prices and locations. Thanks for sharing your diary, I however, won't share mine, sorry.
OK, this is my second time in AC. I travel here alone and meet ISG members via PM.
First up, I am not a bell ringer, or a drinks all round kinda guy, thats not me at home, or here.
Last night there was three of us in a random bar, we had a free drink voucher for some s*why drink, but spent 30 minutes talking to a cute girl, didn't buy her a drink, just chatted. No pressure in this bar. Then we went to Tropix (next to Crystal Palace, behind DollHouse) and my 2 friends saw a number of girls that they liked, we called them over (4 girls) , and during the next 3 hours or so we brought drinks more or less as asked, we also got some food. The main issue I had was the music. It was impossible to dance to and the girls on stage looked as bored as the girls with us. Anyway, my buddy organised a bar fine (1800) for the girls. 1 said no "mens", and 1 just wasnt interested and chatted with other customers. We were going to High Society, as it was about 11. 30. (total bill about 7000) As we left Tropix a random girl in a red dress showed up, and talked to the 2 girls that we had bar fined. We went to Hi Soc, and got drinks all round, danced a lot, and got more food. 1am. Time to go home, well. Here was the issue, the 3 girls lived together, the girl in red dress had been bar fined earlier and let go by her customer, so they wanted to go home together. None of us three was going to force them to do something that they didn't want, and after some confusion they were gone. I went back to the unnamed random bar, got 1 drink for me. 1 for her, then bar fined (2000) , and back to my hotel at 3am, for a serious session. I had to tell her to sleep. When she woke, she was horny, and I told her to let me sleep. I have seen a number of really stunning girls still in the bigger bars at 2 or 3.
So, here is my point / question. I want to enjoy myself, and have a good time, but on a few occasions the girls I have spent the least amount of money on, have given me the best time.
Is this generally the case? Is it better to bar fine quickly, go to the hotel, then go back out, and have fun? Any suggestions?Hey GB! Well done on the recovery after the Tropix disaster!
First I enjoyed getting together for a couple of days and hope you can make to China and CP someday soon!
I wanted to add a couple of comments, since I was one of the guys involved in this "party". One part needing to be mentioned is that on Sunday night we went to Atlantis for the show and I bought drinks for two Tropix girls that came to Atlantis to do the show. They sat with us about 5 mins and then said they needed to go back on stage for the show and would return afterwards, well they never returned to finish the drinks. I waited about 25 mins and passed up a couple of girls waiting for them to come back. I walked over to Tropix and raised this issue with the mommie there. She offered to send them back to me, but I told her not to bother as I was really angry with them. She offered to buy me a drink. I told her to remember when I came in the next time.
As GB mentioned, on Monday night we went into Tropix. We had a pretty good time with the girls in the bar and decided to bar fine a couple of them to go barhopping, and one last pop before an early flight on Tuesday morning. We left Tropix and went to High Society. After about an hour at High Society, headed back to the hotel when it became obvious that least my girl wasn't interested in going back to the hotel. As GB mentioned, one of her roomates was tagging along with us, and in an effort to act like gentlemen, we allowed her to go with us to the disco. That was mistake #1, the second was that I did not specify what I expected from the bar fine. I should know better, but don't really like to talk to both the mommy and the girl and make a check list of exactly what is expected from the girl. I won't make that mistake again. In the future, at least in Tropix I will make sure that I involve the mommie and the girl in a conversation about performance criteria before barfining a girl.
FWIW, the tag numbers of the girls that stiffed me on Sunday night is T683 and T684, they are sisters (real sisters not Atey's) The name of the runners from Sunday night are Sally and Genalyn, if you happen to talk to them. It would be interesting to see what happens if someone that reads this happens to mention that some of the girls from Tropix are getting a bad reputation.
I also had a great time on this trip with a couple of gals from smaller bars with smaller bar fines. The girls weren't stunners, but made sure the time we were together was memorable. I would take either of them again. One was from Treasure Island, and the other from La Pasha.
Also, a really cute waitress from Girls Generation, named Iris was a lot of fun!
Great update SL. Much appreciated.
For hotels with the card system, I ask for two cards when I checkin, or I go back and ask for a second card. I leave one in the card system and carry the other for access.
Usually after the room has been serviced they remove the card but it is easy to put back in for the business part of the day.
I miss Angeles.In the hotels I've stayed in you can use ANY card to keep the juice flowing. Last time I used the plastic that surrounded a new sim card, it was credit card sized.
This was in a Perth (Western Australia) hotel during a 2 week work stay.
In the hotels I've stayed in you can use ANY card to keep the juice flowing. Last time I used the plastic that surrounded a new sim card, it was credit card sized.
This was in a Perth (Western Australia) hotel during a 2 week work stay.In addition to that I carry a magnetic card which helps in 90% of the cases where plastic doesn't work.
In addition to that I carry a magnetic card which helps in 90% of the cases where plastic doesn't work.For that matter, a couple of cardboard biz cards have done the trick in the past. Or any frequent customer card (Albertsons, REI, Best Buy) will work as well.
Hate walking into a muggy steamy room.
Hey GB! Well done on the recovery after the Tropix disaster!
FWIW, the tag numbers of the girls that stiffed me on Sunday night is T683 and T684, they are sisters (real sisters not Atey's) The name of the runners from Sunday night are Sally and Genalyn, if you happen to talk to them. It would be interesting to see what happens if someone that reads this happens to mention that some of the girls from Tropix are getting a bad reputation.Hell. I will make a point to mention it when I go there in next month. Much as been said about them not giving a shit about customer care but I say if the customer does not make a point of making negatives known then for sure you do not stand a chance of improving on service. They have a bottom line to. I for one rather pass on the "stunners bar" to go to the "fun good service" bar.
I go there to enjoy myself not to deal with drama, bullshit, runners or cons.
BTW, I also appreciate the heads up on names or tags of good providers. Granted the turnover is high but if you are going to be following soon after a report and you get the heads up (no pun intended) regarding a very dynamic or fun or freaky or bi provider. Hell yeah I want to know of the known entity and slam dunk. Good service should be rewarded with referrals for sure.
Thanks for the reports and comments gents!
Sir Lancelot
09-12-12, 22:17
Day 21, Friday: Angeles.
I woke up on my last full day of the trip. Tomorrow I would be flying back to England.
Yesterday had been a great day and I wanted more of the same. I had slept with two pretty girls. A 10/10 who provided me with a girlfriend experience followed by a very shy, inexperienced girl. They were very different but both memorable in their own way. A good sex tour isn't just about fucking as many beautiful girls as possible, it's about creating the kind of memories you can fondly recall on a cold, rainy night when you're back home. If you always bar-fine the same type of girl, these memories fade in to one. As a result I like to try all kinds of different girls, from the tall and thin to the curvy and voluptuous, from the shy and innocent to tigers in the bedroom. Variety is the spice of life after all.
My plan had been to take two more girls on my final day but fatigue had caught up with me. I blame the vigorous 'reverse cowgirl' Yannie gave me the day before! I can remember thinking it was quite painful at the time but I was having too much fun to care. I decided to have a relaxing afternoon to save myself for one final night on Fields Avenue. I wanted to bar-fine a 10/10 hottie to round the trip off in style.
I had a shower but it leaked across the bathroom floor. Natalia is a good hotel but inferior to Appartelle, my first choice. I dislike Natalia's keycard system and the reception area is always very smoky because Filipino men chain-smoke cigarettes while watching basketball on television. Appartelle has bigger and better rooms but you pay less because it's sandwiched between gogo bars and doesn't look much from the outside.
I spent the afternoon walking up and down Fields Avenue in the blazing sunshine, compiling the map for this diary. I received a few quizzical looks from ex-pats drinking beer in open-sided beer-bars. When I retire I will live in Angeles. Imagine, a never-ending supply of sexy girls! By late afternoon the atmosphere had changed as lots of scantily dressed 'Hello Girls' appeared outside the bars in preparation for another busy night on Fields Avenue.
ORCHID INN is my favourite place in Angeles to eat. It's on the road that runs parallel to Fields Avenue and boasts an extensive menu. It had been my regular restaurant over the past week, so when I finished I tipped both waitresses and said goodbye. I also made a point of popping my head in to the kitchen to thank the chefs for their excellent food. Filipino's more than anyone seem to appreciate positive feedback.
Near the 'Walking Street' sign, I saw a familiar face. It was Yannie, the 10/10 girl I had bar-fined from Ponytails the day before. She was wearing a sexy red outfit with fishnet stockings and was handing out flyers advertising happy hour. It makes sense that a bar would use a girl like her to tempt customers to visit. She looked fabulous and gave me a big smile when she saw me. It was tempting to bar-fine her again but I decided against it. Although she was a 10/10 in my books (for looks and service) , you hear stories of men coming home from Asia married and girls like Yannie are the reason why!
I also wanted to find a new girl. I had fucked 16 girls so far on the trip and wanted to add one more before I flew home. Sadly I would fall short of my personal best of 18 girls, set in Indonesia the year before (a vastly under-rated sex destination) but 17 would be a good effort. Especially considering I took a four day detour to Palawan in the middle of the trip.
No sooner had I said goodbye to Yannie, it started to rain heavily. I decided to go to ATLANTIS, where a dozen 'Hello Girls', looking cute in their matching blue outfits, were sheltering under the canopy outside. As I walked past, I saw another familiar face seeking refuge from the rain. It was Ann, the girl I had bar-fined from Dragons Den earlier in the trip. Like Yannie she was handing out flyers. We chatted for a few minutes. It would have been easy to bar-fine her for a repeat of the great sex she gave me but I was looking for a completely new girl. I told her I was leaving tomorrow and hugged her goodbye.
Inside ATLANTIS there were 50 girls on stage and 25 watching from the balcony above. It's definitely the place to go for quantity and quality of girls, although lookers cost 3000 pesos and similar girls can be found for nearly half-price in some of the smaller bars. I saw 10 girls I would rate very attractive but couldn't see CJ, the 10/10 girl I had been infatuated by earlier in the trip. I was disappointed I didn't get chance to fuck her but it wasn't meant to be. I chatted with the manager again and told him that it was my last night. He recommended that I visit Insomnia, in his words "the best bar in Angeles".
It was still raining heavily when I left, so I went to GECKO'S nearby. It's a small bar and there were just 10 dancers on stage. Moments after sitting down three girls pounced on me. A girl sat either side of me and the third sat on my lap. As if by magic a waitress appeared and asked "drinks for the ladies sir?". I agreed to buy one for the girl sat on my lap. Although she was probably a 4/10, it's amazing how much more desirable a girl becomes when they're grinding on your lap, giving you a sneaky view down their ample cleavage. I felt myself getting stiff, which is always a bit embarrassing in a bar full of young girls. The bar-fine in Gecko's is 1800 pesos.
Outside it had stopped raining so I went to INSOMNIA. It's located next to Hotel Natalia, just a one minute walk from the 'Walking Street' sign at the top of Fields Avenue. It's a large bar with a long stage in the middle. There were 25 girls on stage and I was impressed by the quality. Not only were there plenty of lookers but it seems that Insomnia is the place to go for boob-lovers like me. The second shift of girls were equally impressive. I saw a sexy girl with fair hair and another hottie with mega cleavage and one of those faces you can't stop staring at.
The girls were having lots of fun. Every ten minutes a girl would slide down a firemans pole on to the stage. I chatted with a pleasant waitress called Mina who told me that the bar-fine is a 1865 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. The manager in Atlantis had been right. Insomnia is definitely one of the top bars in Angeles. Great girls, great atmosphere and reasonable prices.
From one great bar to another, I went to TYPHOON next. There were 30 girls on the narrow stage including Gillian, the cute girl I had fucked earlier in the trip. She saw me and pretended to hide behind another girl. When the bell rang to signify a shift change, she left the stage with the other girls and walked straight past me without even glancing in my direction. At first I was pissed off but then she looked back at me, smiling cheekily. She was a playful one!
I saw a great girl on stage, wearing number 108. She had pale skin and a beautiful face and would be the perfect girl for my final night. However, I had already taken Gillian from Typhoon and won't take two girls from the same bar. I walked over to her and said goodbye. Although I would have enjoyed her tight, young pussy again, I was on the hunt for fresh meat. On the way out I passed the cute Japanese-looking girl with big tits. Inevitably she was with a customer but it didn't stop her licking her lips suggestively at me as I walked past. She would be a lot of fun, I thought.
Fittingly for my last night, it was turning in to a Greatest Hits night, in which I was seeing some of my favourite girls of the trip. I'd already seen Yannie, Ann and Gillian and suddenly I remembered another girl. I walked in to CAROUSEL and immediately saw Lorna on the stage as it slowly rotated like a fairground ride. She looked pretty with her hair tied back and she had a unique look. I had tried to bar-fine her three days earlier but she had been on her 'mens', maybe it would be second time lucky? But when she saw me, her smile was polite and not at all flirty. It was a bad sign. She knew I wanted to bar-fine her and yet she acted cool. It was strange. Three nights earlier we got along really well so maybe she was one of those pretty girls who is just happy to collect commission for lady-drinks? Or maybe she's doesn't go with westerners because, as the girls say,"they have big dick". Either way, I was disappointed.
I turned my attention to 312 instead, a very pretty but very shy blond girl. We would make eye contact and then she would look away hastily, before glancing back a moment later to see if I was still looking. Shyness is a turn-on of mine but she was too similar to Merical, the girl I fucked the night before.
In Angeles it is easy to lose track of time and before you know it the bars are closing. I wasn't going to let that happen on my last night. It was 10. 40pm and time to pick my girl.
I had lots of options. I remembered Ivy, the pretty blond from One Eyed Wench, CJ from Atlantis and Jane, the cutie from Cambodia. I remembered the 10/10 girl from Lollipop, Mary-Jane from Emperors Lounge and the big-boobed hottie from Club Asia. All would be great girls. And then of course there were girls I had already taken, who had provided me with so much great sex. In Angeles you are never short of options.
I opted to return to INSOMNIA. It had impressed me earlier in the night and I had seen several girls in there with big tits. As a breast-lover, I wanted to end my trip in style. It was busy when I walked in and I was pleased to see that most of my favourite girls were still there. I sat down and bought a drink. I got the familiar adrenaline rush I get when I know I'll be taking a girl.
I took my time, waiting to see both dance shifts. I was spoilt for choice but narrowed it down to three girls, all pretty with top-heavy figures. My favourite was a curvy girl with light brown hair, who oozed sex appeal. She seemed surprised when I called her down and shared a joke with some of the other girls as she left the stage. She sat next to me and I bought her a lady-drink. Her boobs looked enticingly large thanks to the push-up bra she was wearing. She told me her name was Michelle and she was just 19 years old from Masbate, an island near Bicol.
Sometimes you sit with girls who are quiet and you have to do all of the talking but she was a star. She was lively, funny and had a wicked laugh. When I told her that I liked the firemans pole on the stage, she raced away and gave me a demo. I liked her sense of fun and how eager she was to please. I figured that she would be equally enthusiastic in the bedroom. I paid her bar-fine (1865 pesos) and she went to get changed. I had bar-fined my final girl of the tour.
It only took ten strides to walk from Insomnia to the front door of my hotel. Michelle found this funny because I had told her that it was a long walk. We watched TV for a while and she told me that she had never had a boyfriend ("except customers") and she had lost her virginity five months ago. I thought this might mean that she would be a starfish but I needn't have worried. Soon we were naked and she was sat astride me, thrusting her lovely tits in to my face, inviting me to suck her nipples. She had confidence I hadn't expected.
She loved sex. I fucked her in missionary and she thrust her hips upwards at me in perfect rhythm, locking me with her sexy stare. She then rode me, grinding her hips on mine, giving me a great view of those large breasts of hers, before turning around and fucking me in 'reverse cowgirl'. She had her name tattooed across her back.
She liked to try lots of positions. She knelt down on all-fours and I fucked her doggy-style as the bed creaked noisily. I reached around to hold her dangling breasts and regretted I didn't have a mirror to watch the action in. I finished on top, fucking her hard as she shouted "faster, oh shit, yeah". It was great sex with a great girl.
We turned the lights off and I curled up to her from behind. She took my hand and cupped it around one of her breasts and we drifted off to sleep together. I had a feeling I would be having some more fun with her in the morning.
King Squared
09-13-12, 01:44
For that matter, a couple of cardboard biz cards have done the trick in the past. Or any frequent customer card (Albertsons, REI, Best Buy) will work as well.
Hate walking into a muggy steamy room.Business cards do work. I stayed at Galaxy hotel and the guy that showed me to the room left a business card in the slot for me so I didn't have to put my key in there.
King Squared
09-13-12, 02:39
On the opposite side of the road from Orchid Inn, is TROPIX. I walked in at 7. 30pm and it was packed with customers, mainly European or Aussie ex-pats. I was shown to a seat a long way from the stage. I like to sit close to the girls so I can make eye contact and build rapport but I didn't have a chance sat so far away. Two years ago Tropix had some pretty girls and they were topless too, wearing just bodypaint to spare their blushes, but the talent wasn't as impressive this time. On the plus side, the place has a great atmosphere and my San Miguel cost just 55 pesos (and lady-drinks cost 100 pesos all night) since it was 'happy hour'. Whenever girls hand you flyers in Angeles, it's worth keeping your eye out for promotions. I didn't see any girls that excited me so I finished my beer and left.In Tropix, I usually like to sit on the bench seats in the back but try to avoid the corners. A mamasan told me that the seats in the back corners were dirty and she made some wanking motion. I don't know if it was the girls or customers doing the wanking but I'd like to give you guys a warning about sitting back there.
I think on Thursdays and Sundays, Tropix has drinks specials.
In Tropix, I usually like to sit on the bench seats in the back but try to avoid the corners. A mamasan told me that the seats in the back corners were dirty and she made some wanking motion.Disappointing that the mammasan was doing nothing about cleaning up. I don't condone leaving a mess (potential hygiene problem) but the management should be keeping the place clean and safe, not just warning the punters.
Day 21, Friday: Angeles.I'm going to miss your reports when you've gone home SL.
Not only are they are informative, giving us the benefit of your experiences and opinions, but they are very well written.
If there were a central P4P tourism agency in AC, you ought to be writing for them!
More and more I look forward to arriving at the start of Feb and sinking into one of these angels. My midnight arrival from KL? No prob. Bars open to wee small hours!
BrainDrain
09-13-12, 04:38
From my traditional western culture, Angeles is all upside down. From having to meet the expectations of the western ladies, it is just so different to be in Ph where the whole world is upside down. Even beer is cheaper than water and it costs less to have a free lancer in your room than it does to watch a porn channel at an Australian hotel.
Since returning to work this week, I had a really funny experience. Someone asked me to organise a meeting with Mr X at one of our offices and I hadn't really had much to do with him before. The person introducing me on the phone asked if I knew MR x very well. Verbally on the phone I answered "No" AS I had only seen him at meetings in Brisbane.
In reality in my mind I was flashing back to a hot tub in Angeles where we had co-coincidently met when we were both there on market research trips. The last time I had seen him we were both sharing a hot tub with a couple of little minxes. Can't wait to see the look on his face when I suggest we have a company team building exercise in AC.
Now back in the corner office here in Australia. All I do is look for angles get get back to angleles. If anyone needs an in country ex-pat manager let me know.
BD
Kelong Jimmy
09-13-12, 16:31
Day 21, Friday: Angeles.
I woke up on my last full day of the trip. Tomorrow I would be flying back to England.
Yesterday had been a great day and I wanted more of the same. I had slept with two pretty girls. A 10/10 who provided me with a girlfriend experience followed by a very shy, inexperienced girl. They were very different but both memorable in their own way. A good sex tour isn't just about fucking as many beautiful girls as possible...Dude, I'm lovin this! Get yourself to Rio, Bangkok, Jakarta, etc, etc and do us these FRs!
Sir Lancelot
09-13-12, 19:09
Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.
Ironically given the fact that I had bar-fined a girl from Insomnia, I had the best night sleep of my whole trip. I spent the night curled up to Michelle from behind, our legs intertwined. Inevitably I woke with morning glory and soon we were having round two. I've never fucked a girl who uses her hips in such a way. Instead of just lying back with her legs spread, she thrust her hips at me, locking her eyes on mine. I fucked her doggy-style and finished with her riding me again. It was a nice way to end my trip, getting rode to a climax by a big-boobed hottie.
What a great girl. She provided me with the girlfriend experience and stayed all night. As we got changed she asked "when you come back again?". I got the impression that she liked me. She posed for lots of photos and I gave her a generous 500 peso tip before she left.
At 10pm I got a trike to the Dao bus terminal and then a bus bound for Manila. You can get a taxi directly to the airport for 1500 pesos but it is easy to travel by bus and the fare is only 114 pesos. The down-side is that when you arrive in Pasay you have to find a taxi to take you to the airport. A Filipino man saw me carrying my luggage and ushered me towards his cab."Taxi-meter?" I enquired and he said "yes, yes", so I got in. He then handed me a laminated price-card that said 'Airport 580 pesos'. He must have thought I was born yesterday! I got out and heard him shouting "500 peso? 400 pesos?" as I walked to the next cab. This driver used his meter and the fare came to 110 pesos.
Manila's best massage parlours, Starfleet and Air Force 1, are near the airport. I had a few hours before boarding but decided against another girl. I didn't want to rush and risk missing my plane and, besides, Michelle had ensured that my trip ended on a high. I checked my luggage in and reflected on the trip as I waited in the departure lounge.
In many ways it had been extremely successful. I had slept with 17 girls, four of whom I would consider to be 10/10's. Rosalyn from Erik the Red (in Cebu) , Gillian from Typhoon, Yannie from Pony Tails and Michelle from Insomnia, were all pretty girls with great attitudes, who provided the much sought-after 'girlfriend experience'. Filipino's definitely deliver in the bedroom.
I had fucked other great girls too, like Syra from Dollhouse and Angel, the young blond from Manila Bay Café. Lovely, Ann and Karen had provided me with some fantastic sex and Jennifer, the cute freelancer, woke me up with three blowjob alarm calls. I would love her to be my alarm clock back in England every Monday to Friday!
But there were negatives too. I'm an adrenaline junkie and like to pick up girls in different, exciting ways. On this trip almost all of my business had been conducted in the gogo bars of Cebu or Angeles. It couldn't compare to the thrill of the chase in Indonesia the year before, where I fucked girls from massage parlours, freelance bars and nightclubs, the sleazy backstreet brothels of Yogyakarta, the fishbowls of Surabaya and the exciting X-houses of Sanur. That kind of variety had been lacking on this trip.
Manila Bay Café had also disappointed me. Two years earlier it had been a rich hunting ground for me but upstairs had been dead and I found it difficult to target the girls I really liked.
In terms of attitude I had noticed much more of a short-time mentality with more 'Dexy's' as I like to call them (girls who do a midnight runner). It's not surprising as Philippines becomes more popular with Koreans, who spend big and bar-fine early. This can easily be rectified though. When you talk to a girl in the bar, draw out your 'rules of engagement' before you agree to leave. If you want her to stay all night, tell her so. If she disagrees, find another girl, there are plenty to choose from.
Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.
The main reason to visit though is the performance of the girls. They're extremely physical and enjoy sex more than any other pay-for-play girls I've ever met. When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.
As my plane climbed in to the sky on my way home, I admired Miss Philippines in the in-flight magazine. I vowed that I would return to these shores one day soon. Before then, Thailand beckons again.
THE END.
Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.
Pip Jaeger
09-14-12, 23:48
Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.
When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.
Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.SL it is we who should thank you, thoroughly enjoyed reading your FR's, thanks for taking the time to write them. They truly brought back a lot of good memories for me and I'm sure for many others too. Also got a few tips to go along with it; can't ask for any more.
Any newbie's who now asks about current pricing or what bars to visit should be automatically directed to your posts!
Thanks again, PJ
BrainDrain
09-15-12, 02:06
Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.This could be the subtitle for the next tourism campaign "It's more fun in the Philippines" and the girls are prettier.
I've been thinking about how cheap this is.
A friend and I went to Bangkok for a week. We got a girl each which cost US$100 (each) for the week.
$US100 is now around PP4200. That's say 3 bar fines?
The Bangkok trip was in 1986. Maybe we paid too much, but at the time we thought it was a bargain.
So in more that 25 years the price of mongering has only doubled, roughly? Happy with that. My salary has more than tripled.
OK, I'm assuming 3 barfines is 1/2 a week's worth of 24hr girltime, and I've not considered tipping, still it's pretty close given the 25 year thing.
Having the girls 24hrs a day meant we were feeding / watering them too.
I suspect most mongerers will be happy to take the girl. 2 or 3 bangs, then happy for her to be gone in the morning. Then a fresh face that night.
But if I throw in my currency, which was at about $US0. 60 at the time (AUD) , that week's worth of girltime was AUD$166.
That AUD$166 will now buy me PP7300, the figures look umm remarkable! (AUD$1=US$1. 04=PP44)
And I think the flight we took (Singapore-Bangkok-Singapore) cost more than my upcoming (Perth-KL-CLK-KL-Perth) flight too. My total airfare is about AUD$800.
(We were in Singapore with work at the time.) I might be wrong about the airfare, but I remember thinking it was dear.
A contemporary comparison: If I were to fly to Sydney return, catch a private bus up to where I have family and back, there's more than my Phils airfare.
I can't comment on how things stack up for those flying from the US or EU, but it's a good deal for us.
Even better for those expats living now in Singapore / KL / Japan / Thailand. Lucky buggers.
We have a good thing going in AC.
Capt Munch
09-15-12, 12:17
The prices quoted here are realistic. Never pay more than 200 for a box of 4 either C or V (the only ones that I can say I have purchased) It's easy enough to walk a little farther and get them for 120 to 150. I think cost is about 80 pisos
The street vendors will certainly start much higher guessing that you are basing their prices like they are the real thing.
Over the years, I would say the average price I have paid is closer to 120 per box and my vitamin salesman usually complains that he can't eat at that price. BTW he is higher than some. But if he is hungry enough (recently) he will sell at a lower price in volume. He is careful also to tell me that the guys down on Fields have been known to short change the quanitty with missing blister packs, empties etc.
My experience would mirror others in that even "fake" they have real enough ingredients that they work.
Absolutely right! Always keep in mind that street vendors often ask for 500 pesos or even more! Hence it is always good to know the 'correct price'. If I remember correctly the best deal I got was 500 pesos for 3 boxes.
Cheers!
Hesekiels
OsakaGin11
09-16-12, 05:53
Maybe a little too late? Don't forget, the the early bird catches the worm! One thing more, wouldn't it be better to ask the girl if she is on her mens before paying 300 pesos for a drink? Just my 2 cents and the lessons I have learned in the past!
Otherwise an interesting post, brother!
Cheers!
HesekielsThat's good advice! The first question I ask any girl I fancy is," do you do bar fines?". And the 2nd quesition is " how much?"
I know some guys don't like doing this, as they think its unromantic, . For me its essential as it cuts out buying unwanted and sometimes expensive ladies drinks for no. Goers and wasting time chatting to gals who have no intention of leaving the bar with you. Just my 2 yen's worth!
Levitraboner
09-17-12, 04:34
Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.
Ironically given the fact that I had bar-fined a girl from Insomnia, I had the best night sleep of my whole trip. I spent the night curled up to Michelle from behind, our legs intertwined. Inevitably I woke with morning glory and soon we were having round two. I've never fucked a girl who uses her hips in such a way. Instead of just lying back with her legs spread, she thrust her hips at me, locking her eyes on mine. I fucked her doggy-style and finished with her riding me again. It was a nice way to end my trip, getting rode to a climax by a big-boobed hottie.
What a great girl. She provided me with the girlfriend experience and stayed all night. As we got changed she asked "when you come back again?". I got the impression that she liked me. She posed for lots of photos and I gave her a generous 500 peso tip before she left.
At 10pm I got a trike to the Dao bus terminal and then a bus bound for Manila. You can get a taxi directly to the airport for 1500 pesos but it is easy to travel by bus and the fare is only 114 pesos. The down-side is that when you arrive in Pasay you have to find a taxi to take you to the airport. A Filipino man saw me carrying my luggage and ushered me towards his cab."Taxi-meter?" I enquired and he said "yes, yes", so I got in. He then handed me a laminated price-card that said 'Airport 580 pesos'. He must have thought I was born yesterday! I got out and heard him shouting "500 peso? 400 pesos?" as I walked to the next cab. This driver used his meter and the fare came to 110 pesos.
Manila's best massage parlours, Starfleet and Air Force 1, are near the airport. I had a few hours before boarding but decided against another girl. I didn't want to rush and risk missing my plane and, besides, Michelle had ensured that my trip ended on a high. I checked my luggage in and reflected on the trip as I waited in the departure lounge.
In many ways it had been extremely successful. I had slept with 17 girls, four of whom I would consider to be 10/10's. Rosalyn from Erik the Red (in Cebu) , Gillian from Typhoon, Yannie from Pony Tails and Michelle from Insomnia, were all pretty girls with great attitudes, who provided the much sought-after 'girlfriend experience'. Filipino's definitely deliver in the bedroom.
I had fucked other great girls too, like Syra from Dollhouse and Angel, the young blond from Manila Bay Café. Lovely, Ann and Karen had provided me with some fantastic sex and Jennifer, the cute freelancer, woke me up with three blowjob alarm calls. I would love her to be my alarm clock back in England every Monday to Friday!
But there were negatives too. I'm an adrenaline junkie and like to pick up girls in different, exciting ways. On this trip almost all of my business had been conducted in the gogo bars of Cebu or Angeles. It couldn't compare to the thrill of the chase in Indonesia the year before, where I fucked girls from massage parlours, freelance bars and nightclubs, the sleazy backstreet brothels of Yogyakarta, the fishbowls of Surabaya and the exciting X-houses of Sanur. That kind of variety had been lacking on this trip.
Manila Bay Café had also disappointed me. Two years earlier it had been a rich hunting ground for me but upstairs had been dead and I found it difficult to target the girls I really liked.
In terms of attitude I had noticed much more of a short-time mentality with more 'Dexy's' as I like to call them (girls who do a midnight runner). It's not surprising as Philippines becomes more popular with Koreans, who spend big and bar-fine early. This can easily be rectified though. When you talk to a girl in the bar, draw out your 'rules of engagement' before you agree to leave. If you want her to stay all night, tell her so. If she disagrees, find another girl, there are plenty to choose from.
Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.
The main reason to visit though is the performance of the girls. They're extremely physical and enjoy sex more than any other pay-for-play girls I've ever met. When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.
As my plane climbed in to the sky on my way home, I admired Miss Philippines in the in-flight magazine. I vowed that I would return to these shores one day soon. Before then, Thailand beckons again.
THE END.
Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.I went to Air Force One just before coming home. After all the great GFEs I had, this place was a big let-down even though I really enjoy fishbowls.
So I'm finally in AC. I've been reading about AC for a long time but never got to go around it as I was very happy in BKK.
I'd like to thank all of you guys who have been providing greatly detailed reports and all those who have assisted me either via pms or here on the forum with my inquiries. This forum is a goldmine.
Arrived in the afternoon from Manila. Last night went bar hopping in AC and met a very sweet 19 year old but she said she is a cherry girl. Despite this, bought her a drink and spent about an hour with her at the bar. She was very sweet and mega sexy. She liked me too and I wanted to bar fine her and she too wanted but she said she was on her period at the time and the next day would be ok. Damn she was hot!
While going from bar to bar, noticed a rather disturbing trend or is it? That most clubs and bars tend to ignore the white guys when korean guys show up. A few times, a group of 5-20 of them would enter the bar and the girls would go mad crazy, cheering like loudly while when white guys would enter, nothing. What's the scoop with that?
After that, went to the unfamous Atlantis bar to check their shows. The club is nice, lots of girls, good shows and the manager is a cool brit guy but the attitude of the girls were crazy. First girl, I start flirting with her from the stage, she comes to sit with me, bought her a drink and not even 2 minutes later, she said she had to go to the stage to dance. Never saw her again on the stage or anywhere. What a way to start. But wait, it gets better!
Next, was sitting enjoying my drink and the shows while one of the waitresses started giving me a long and good back massage. I turn around and thanked her. Noticed she was hot. Started talking to her, she comes very close and gets very flirty. Long story short, within a few minutes, after having bought her a drink, we were all over each other, hands roaming everywhere on each other's body, kissing and dancing. This looked very promising and she was very horny so bar fined her. Came to 3K. Back in the hotel, once the clothes were off, she didn't look as hot as she did in her sexy black waitress dress. She was wild but after one shot, she totally changed and showered, got dressed and said she had received a text message from her mom that her baby was at the hospital. Was too tired after not having slept at all the previous night due to heavy partying with models in a brand new club's opening in Guangzhou, told her to get lost. What a rip off! For a 3K barfine, you'd expect at least the girl to stay all night and not just come up with some BS after 1 shot. I wish I could remember her name but I don't (was it Leanne or Leni Anne or something like that).
I realize I should have clarified things with her before barfining her that I expect her to stay till the morning at least but didn't as I wasn't expecting her to pull something like that given the awesome time we were having at the bar and how good everything was going. I usually do make it clear with a girl that I want her LT meaning till the morning. Never had a problem in Thailand or in Brasil with that or even in my previous trip to Cebu last year. But I will make sure that from now, I will make sure to clarify that with the girl.
So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?
Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?
Member #4152
09-17-12, 06:18
So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?
Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?I'm sorry for your shitty first time in AC. It's pretty much YMMV with all girls and bars. I've always got exceptional service and attention from all the girls I bar fined. Although, I do try to steer away from Cherry girls because they usually cost more and I'm thinking they're not as good in the sack. Some girls also claim to be cherry girls because they don't really want to be with you. I suggest being really out going and fun, that usually works for me.
It's like a job interview sometimes. I've had few standoffishones give me a great stay-as-long-as-you-want GFE! Well, you had bad luck with the naughty one in a big name bar. So try something different. And I hate to inform you that Murphys law applies. On your last day, you will find the woman of your dreams. She will rock your world. And you will then get on an airplane and start thinking about how you can arrange the next trip.
What kind of conversations do you have with you BKK girls. Do they still play those silly games? X.
So I'm finally in AC. I've been reading about AC for a long time but never got to go around it as I was very happy in BKK.
I'd like to thank all of you guys who have been providing greatly detailed reports and all those who have assisted me either via pms or here on the forum with my inquiries. This forum is a goldmine.
Arrived in the afternoon from Manila. Last night went bar hopping in AC and met a very sweet 19 year old but she said she is a cherry girl. Despite this, bought her a drink and spent about an hour with her at the bar. She was very sweet and mega sexy. She liked me too and I wanted to bar fine her and she too wanted but she said she was on her period at the time and the next day would be ok. Damn she was hot!
While going from bar to bar, noticed a rather disturbing trend or is it? That most clubs and bars tend to ignore the white guys when korean guys show up. A few times, a group of 5-20 of them would enter the bar and the girls would go mad crazy, cheering like loudly while when white guys would enter, nothing. What's the scoop with that?
After that, went to the unfamous Atlantis bar to check their shows. The club is nice, lots of girls, good shows and the manager is a cool brit guy but the attitude of the girls were crazy. First girl, I start flirting with her from the stage, she comes to sit with me, bought her a drink and not even 2 minutes later, she said she had to go to the stage to dance. Never saw her again on the stage or anywhere. What a way to start. But wait, it gets better!
Next, was sitting enjoying my drink and the shows while one of the waitresses started giving me a long and good back massage. I turn around and thanked her. Noticed she was hot. Started talking to her, she comes very close and gets very flirty. Long story short, within a few minutes, after having bought her a drink, we were all over each other, hands roaming everywhere on each other's body, kissing and dancing. This looked very promising and she was very horny so bar fined her. Came to 3K. Back in the hotel, once the clothes were off, she didn't look as hot as she did in her sexy black waitress dress. She was wild but after one shot, she totally changed and showered, got dressed and said she had received a text message from her mom that her baby was at the hospital. Was too tired after not having slept at all the previous night due to heavy partying with models in a brand new club's opening in Guangzhou, told her to get lost. What a rip off! For a 3K barfine, you'd expect at least the girl to stay all night and not just come up with some BS after 1 shot. I wish I could remember her name but I don't (was it Leanne or Leni Anne or something like that).
I realize I should have clarified things with her before barfining her that I expect her to stay till the morning at least but didn't as I wasn't expecting her to pull something like that given the awesome time we were having at the bar and how good everything was going. I usually do make it clear with a girl that I want her LT meaning till the morning. Never had a problem in Thailand or in Brasil with that or even in my previous trip to Cebu last year. But I will make sure that from now, I will make sure to clarify that with the girl.
So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?
Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?
It's like a job interview sometimes. I've had few standoffishones give me a great stay-as-long-as-you-want GFE! Well, you had bad luck with the naughty one in a big name bar. So try something different. And I hate to inform you that Murphys law applies. On your last day, you will find the woman of your dreams. She will rock your world. And you will then get on an airplane and start thinking about how you can arrange the next trip.
What kind of conversations do you have with you BKK girls. Do they still play those silly games? X.Nowadays I am more crude in my approach. First I ask the mamasan about the girl I fancy, such as age, baby, work history and finally call her down to confirm LT till morning, etc before even LD. Cheated too many times hardened me. Its not about love but everyone pretend and act. So why we pretend. Usually the result is better even prompting me to go for breakfast with the girl and a generous tip of even p1000.Up to each of us on what we are comfortable.
I'm sorry for your shitty first time in AC. It's pretty much YMMV with all girls and bars. I've always got exceptional service and attention from all the girls I bar fined. Although, I do try to steer away from Cherry girls because they usually cost more and I'm thinking they're not as good in the sack. Some girls also claim to be cherry girls because they don't really want to be with you. I suggest being really out going and fun, that usually works for me.If its anything like my experiances with virgins, which in China I normally do about 5-6 a year their more hassel than its worth, simply because it takes an age to penetrate them sometimes over the course of 3 nights through them being scared, or hurt or not sure they want to go through with it.
Undercoverh,
Great report. I have been to AC several times but have never ventured into Raymond and A Santos Sts' joints. I will definitely try as I prefer longer LT dates including breakfast or lunch. I will be visiting AC on Nov. 1 to 6. PM me if you are in town. I would like to be your wingman. Thanks.
Funman13.
I am happy read someone got justice with these runners on Fields ave. I had my first runner 14 years ago on Fields ave, I guess much has not changed there. For sure, the girls know when they are talking to us and making the promise they will stay, they intend to leave sooner than the agreed time. I am always surprised how the girls can be so sweet and sexy in the bar then back in the room change. If I wanted sex problems, I would stay home with my wife, no need to travel to AC to get it.
But, I have found a solution. Over the years, I have tried Fields, Prem Road, Raymond St, and Blowrow (and dating regular girls there I find from the dating websites for the AC. I have not had a runner yet from Raymond St and Blowrow (A. Santos Street) in the past 6 years (that must be a worlds record). I go to AC at least 2 to 3 times a year on 2 or 4 day trips. I like that on Raymond and A. Santos, the minimum time is set at 12 hours by the bar, not the girl. You pay 1200 to 1400 to the mama, and you get at least 12 hours, stated up front. Which includes a BBBJ, and at least 2 pops. Bare back sex is up to the girl. Nevertheless, I always show the girl the time on my cell phone and we agree what time she will leave me at night or in the morning. When I pay, I also tell the mama, with the girl standing there, the time we agreed she would leave. I also say in a nice in kidding way,"ok, if she leaves early, I am coming back for a big refund." The mama will laugh and say "no problem with girl sir."
Also, I guess it helps that I am a regular customer on Santos and Raymond st. I normally sit and talk with the mama, buy her a drink. There is one mama on Raymond St that is old, but she does not wear a bra under her top, and her tits have a sexy little point on them. I normally play with mama with mama and hug her when I see her (so I can feel her tits against me). Ok, I know this is, well, weird, but it gets me hard and ready for the younger girls. I never asked mama out for a ST, maybe I will in the future. I know she was a bar girl when she was young and her pussy has been worked over, but sometimes I am in a funny mood.
Years ago, I started to bypass Fields because of the runners. I thought I would give it a try again on my next trip, but after reading your report, maybe I will stick with my old good hangouts. When I have a runner, I have a bad mood all night and the next morning. From the post here, other guys have had good results with Santos and Raymond st. These little bars are basic and they can only keep customers coming back because of service and low price for sex. I am sold on the concept! I will visit Fields for the shows and check out the girls dancing, get a few feels. But I will leave the sex stuff to the pros on Raymond and Santos street.
If you want to check out Raymond St, go to you tube and copy and past the following "hookers in the Philippines=Raymond St. MTS" this will give you an idea of the girls. However, the selection will change often, the girls come and go.
I hadn't been here for almost a year and now 3 weekends in a row. Go figure.
After getting the short end of the "service" stick, and consultation with a few senior guys, I, too have decided to verbalize my desires with both the girls and the mommies before any money changes hands. If I don't do this, the the consequences are on me.
It was reenforced to me last night when I talked to a manager / mommy at Tropix about last week's issues. (I left early the morning after) and she told me that if I didn't ask the questions before, then not much I can do, if the "girl misunderstand" me. The other guy had already been in to see her, and she remembered us. Funny, the waitress came up and asked me if I have problem with the girls and told the mommy that we were good customers, blah, blah.
I am now forewarned!
This trip had been rewarding! I great ST from Players on Sunday afternoon, wow what a body, the only thing I forgot to ask was about condom. My bad.
A waitress from Pony Tails that looked MUCH better naked, real GFE, she was a little tentative, didn't really want to do the BJ thing. Last last night after a real fun couple of hours at Atlantis, I found a model at Icarus that was off the hook. If fact I am having a repeat performance tonight.
A few more details, we did a few different things this trip. Time to head out amongst 'them!
at IcarusBe careful with drinks at Icarus order bottled drinks only. Couple of times I have ordered mixed drinks from there and felt really sick few hours latter.
Sir Lancelot
09-19-12, 00:00
in tropix, i usually like to sit on the bench seats in the back but try to avoid the corners. a mamasan told me that the seats in the back corners were dirty and she made some wanking motion.i wouldn't have thought she would tell you that! maybe when she said 'dirty' she wasn't referring to lack of cleanliness? did she do a big theatrical wink when she said it? .
if there were a central p4p tourism agency in ac, you ought to be writing for them!i'll keep my eyes peeled for a job vacancy! joking aside, thanks for your compliments. i'm really glad you enjoyed my diary. send me a pm and i'll email you the full diary with pics.
dude, i'm lovin this! get yourself to rio, bangkok, jakarta, etc, etc and do us these frs!i posted a similar diary last year when i went to indonesia. i had a great time there, from the massage parlours of jakarta to the fishbowls of surubaya, the gang 3 brothels of yogya to the mysterious x-houses of sanur. i think jakarta is not far away from bangkok in terms of excitement. hotel classic is one of the best sex venues i've been to. so many pretty girls – it reminded me of nataree in bangkok. i was a bit disappointed by the freelance bars in blok m but the brothels in pen j (near kota station) were great. hotel travel and stadium were fun too. send me a pm with your email address and i'll send you the full diary.
… thoroughly enjoyed reading your fr's, thanks for taking the time to write themthank you very much. it takes a lot of time and effort on my trip to write my diary (and i receive lots of suspicious looks when i'm making all of the notes on my phone in each bar) so it's really nice to hear that people enjoyed reading. i shall definitely write another on my next trip.
the first question i ask any girl i fancy is," do you do bar fines?". and the 2nd quesition is " how much?" i know some guys don't like doing this, as they think its unromantic, . for me its essential as it cuts out buying unwanted and sometimes expensive ladies drinks for no goers!i can see the benefit both ways. what i found interesting is that two years ago terms and conditions didn't need to be established in the bar. i would bar-fine a girl and she would stay all night without question (only one girl out of 12 left early). on this trip about half of girls asked to leave early. the climate has changed. it's interesting reading sprites report below that his girl made an excuse about her kid being sick. if girls want to leave early, they'll find a way. reminds me of the latin phrase 'caveat emptor' – buyer beware. i think tactics play an important part but intuition is key. when i went with my gut feeling on this trip, i was often proved to be correct about the girl.
i went to air force one just before coming home. after all the great gfes i had, this place was a big let-down even though i really enjoy fishbowls.it's such a shame that manila or angeles doesn't have massage parlours that are up to scratch. surely there is a business opportunity there for someone? you would think that especially in the business district in manila there would be high-end massage parlours similar to nataree in bangkok or hotel classic in jakarta.
Chris Long
09-19-12, 04:01
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places. I looked into having the Swiss Chalet pick me up at the airport in Manila and swagmans but both seemed a little pricy at $60 plus USA I have also found advice on how to take the bus to AC but I am not sure that would be a good thing for me to do as this is my first time there. Will any one else be there during this time and want to meet up and show me the ropes. How much should I budget for a six day advinture in AC. Where is the best place to exchange my money.
Thanks.
Chris
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places. I looked into having the Swiss Chalet pick me up at the airport in Manila and swagmans but both seemed a little pricy at $60 plus USA I have also found advice on how to take the bus to AC but I am not sure that would be a good thing for me to do as this is my first time there. Will any one else be there during this time and want to meet up and show me the ropes. How much should I budget for a six day advinture in AC. Where is the best place to exchange my money.
Thanks.
ChrisI don't know where you come from, but if flights to Hong Kong were cheaper than to Manila from your place, you could fly from HKG to Clark instead.
Screaming Beaver
09-19-12, 05:46
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places. I looked into having the Swiss Chalet pick me up at the airport in Manila and swagmans but both seemed a little pricy at $60 plus USA I have also found advice on how to take the bus to AC but I am not sure that would be a good thing for me to do as this is my first time there. Will any one else be there during this time and want to meet up and show me the ropes. How much should I budget for a six day advinture in AC. Where is the best place to exchange my money.
Thanks.
ChrisSince it's your cherry trip you should just bite the bullet and be taken directly to your hotel in AC for the 60 bucks. That way you don't have to be afraid about getting mugged which is a very low possibility anyway. It is a couple hour drive out there so the cost is pretty fair for private service. You may want to take the public bus back to Manila airport on your way home. It's real cheap and actually a lot of fun if you have any sense of adventure at all. For example, you get to watch a full length comedy movie on the bus completely in Tagalog and you will not understand what the fuck is going on but all the flips on the bus with you will be laughing hysterically. Some of them were bar girls who I befriended and got their contact information. Be advised you will probably be the only foreigner on the bus which is pretty cool. If you get on the bus with several Red Horse Beers you will be the King for 2 hours. Enjoy
I posted a similar diary last year when I went to Indonesia.I really loved your diary. It is the kind of valuable contribution that makes the ISG community the true gem that it is. And I really, really thank you for that Sir Lancelot.
I have tried to use my google "ninja skills" to find out the diary you did about Indonesia. I read most of your previous posts, looking in your history, and it is not there. And you mention in an old post that you have put it on another website.
I did not activate my full membership yet. Probably just before my next "joy and play" trip, which I don't know when it will happen and it might be a while, so I don't have PM capabilities as of yet.
Could you please provide a hint on where I could find that diary about Indonesia, or even better, repost it on the Indonesia thread so that more members would benefit?
This comment of yours made me want to visit Jakarta LOL.
I think Jakarta is not far away from Bangkok in terms of excitement.
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places. I looked into having the Swiss Chalet pick me up at the airport in Manila and swagmans but both seemed a little pricy at $60 plus USA I have also found advice on how to take the bus to AC but I am not sure that would be a good thing for me to do as this is my first time there. Will any one else be there during this time and want to meet up and show me the ropes. How much should I budget for a six day advinture in AC. Where is the best place to exchange my money.
Thanks.
ChrisHttp://www.swaggy.com/index-bus-service.php
Swagman Hotel Manila. Angeles City.
Air Conditioned Bus Service Daily.
PhP 600. 00 / head.
Fly The Bus From Swagman Hotel Manila 11:30 AM. 3:30 PM. 8:30 PM.
If those times are good for you then take a taxi from the airport to Swangman hotel for about 150p and then ride their bus to AC. They will drop you at your hotel.
Another option is to stay overninght at their hotel and go to AC next day. Otherwise spend the 60 bucks and be happy going directly to AC.
Swiss Chalet is right on the spot. Excluding hotel and depending on your drinking and mongering habbits 4-5K pesos / daily will be enough for the rest.
RCA Knight
09-19-12, 13:58
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places.Stayed at both before. Both very close to the walking street. Loretta is cheaper than Swiss Chalet. I think 1300 for queen and 1500 for king bed. Very simple room with small kitchen. Very small bathroom. Swiss Chalet start from 1500 for small room. Room a bit better furnished than Loretta. Both location are convenient, after you pay bar, you can just walk back the lady in a few min. Both are good values in AC.
Key Master
09-20-12, 04:58
Hello everyone I will be coming to AC for the first time in January the 6th through the 12th. I am thinking of staying either at the Swiss Chalet or the Loretta Apartelle any advice on these places. I looked into having the Swiss Chalet pick me up at the airport in Manila and swagmans but both seemed a little pricy at $60 plus USA I have also found advice on how to take the bus to AC but I am not sure that would be a good thing for me to do as this is my first time there. Will any one else be there during this time and want to meet up and show me the ropes. How much should I budget for a six day advinture in AC. Where is the best place to exchange my money.If you are a light sleeper, I think you should reconsider whether staying at Swiss Chalet is a good idea. A new hotel is going to be built right next to it probably by that time if not already. Your questions can probably be answered if you were a little more specific about your needs and how you go about. You also can probably find a lot of your answers if you do some more reading and put 2 and 2 together.
i just returned from my third weekend in a row in ac. who knows when i will get back. i did meet up with a couple of other isg'ers and it made for a good time. i will let them add or correct me as needed.
we decided to try a few venues "off the beaten path". i suspect these won't be frequented by many that are in ac only "on occasion" but did make for a good comparison to the regular bar scene.
i went to a place called full haus, which is out the road that runs perpendicular to fields and away from town. it is owned by the same person that owns dunk shot, so the same take your cell phone on entering applies. the first night, i had barely gotten seated when the manager brought a girl over to sit with me. i told him no thanks, i wanted to get settled first and i would let him know when i was ready.
he kept hovering over me and suggested a few times for me to choose a girl. i really dislike this tactic, and told him to leave me alone, i would have left, but there were a couple of real cuties. same thing, the girls do two songs on stage, the first in a bikini or similar and the second in something see-thru with a few peeks at nipples and bare pussy to make it interesting. i did sit one of the more attractive ladies and bought her a drink, which was either 250p or 350p, i can't recall. we talked for about 30 mins, and i asked her about her performance in the "vip" room. the rooms cost 2000p minimum consumption and they give you 6 sml's for the girls and 1 drink for you. the rooms are private and you are left alone. they have one way glass so you can see the show, but no one can see into the room. they don't have barfines here, but she was willing to give me her number to see her outside. we had just started talking about me getting a vip room when the waiter / manager again came over and bugged me about another drink / getting a vip room. i told him to leave me alone, then told the girl,"he just cost you a lot of money, i told him three times to leave me alone and he won't stop". i got up and asked for my check, she was stunned and the waitress asked what happened. i told her that i needed to speak with the boss. he came out and in front of the girl and the manager, i told him that "this guy cost you a client that had intended to spend a little money on a slow sunday night". i thought the girl was going to explode and the manager didn't know what to say. the boss, told me to come back again and it wouldn't happen, blah, blah. the problem is they did have about three really hot girls. imho, better than anything i had seen on fields. the next night, my friend wanted to go see this place, so along with my barfine (waitress from pony tails) we went. she had never been before and was a little shy when the girls showed some pussy. there were two really hot girls the second night and the girl i sat was not pleased that i had some back with another girl.
after watching 5 or 6 girls dance we went to jullianna's, near sm mall, it is a high end ktv, the table minimum is 500p, and the girls drinks are 300p for 30 minutes to sit and chat. they have a house ktv band and a few guest sing. poorly, although some of the girls have good voices. the girls are all nicely dressed and most are very pretty. i am not sure if they are available after work, although i was told by a local guy that the standard procedure is to get a table, buy your favorite one drink and see if she in interested in getting together outside of work. my friend's girl said she worked there because she only had to drink and no barfines, so i suspect it is hit or miss. there is a club on the second floor, that has a show similar to dunk shot, but it is even more expensive. it is a 500p minimum per person to sit and watch.
so that about does it for the off the wall adventures. i would go back to either place once to see if one of the stunners was available to get together during the day or a day off, but not as a regular hang out.
I told her that I needed to speak with the boss. He came out and in front of the girl and the manager, I told him that "this guy cost you a client that had intended to spend a little money on a slow Sunday night". I thought the girl was going to explode and the manager didn't know what to say. The boss, told me to come back again and it wouldn't happen, blah, blah.After you left it would have been an interesting chat between the manager and boss!
After you left it would have been an interesting chat between the manager and boss!I suspect that it was more of "Look if a foreigner comes in, treat them a little different". This place was mostly locals and I suspect they nurse a SML for hours trying to see the girls get naked at the lowest cost. Of course I could be wrong about that also!
I think got scammed. I think I got duped into paying double twice at Altantis the last time I went.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?
Sorry for driving up the prices with my naiviety.
Globe Spinner
09-20-12, 21:52
I think got scammed. I think I got duped into paying double twice at Altantis the last time I went.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?
Sorry for driving up the prices with my naiviety.Atlantis is the priciest club in AC. I think you paid the going rate if she was a "top drawer" girl. But, when buying drinks there, keep checking your tab. The place is fun, but they like to pad the bill.
Screaming Beaver
09-20-12, 21:57
I think got scammed. I think I got duped into paying double twice at Altantis the last time I went.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?
Sorry for driving up the prices with my naiviety.Yes, you were undoubtedly fleeced like a sheep. There is a good chance the mamasan got about half of the extra 3k. I'm sure the girl and mama did the obligatory high five when they saw each other the next day. By any chance did you tell any one it was your first time there? You might want to read the forum next time to prevent this from happening again.
Yes, you were undoubtedly fleeced like a sheep. There is a good chance the mamasan got about half of the extra 3k. I'm sure the girl and mama did the obligatory high five when they saw each other the next day. By any chance did you tell any one it was your first time there? You might want to read the forum next time to prevent this from happening again.LOL I'm sure I was fleeced. Ill keep reading to prevent it from next time.
WestCoast1
09-21-12, 01:26
I think got scammed. I think I got duped into paying double twice at Altantis the last time I went.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?Correct. You tip after only if you want. The girls rarely ask for a tip.
And no. You weren't fleeced. You (mistakenly / ignorantly) agreed up front to the excess, in advance. Your fault. If I sell mangos on the street for p10 each, then see a rich sucker approaching, and offer him one for p5000, its not fleecing if he ups and agrees to it (especially if he can buy mangos just next door). Caveat emptor.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.You got had big time! What's really fucked up is that the mamsan lied and tricked you. Fuck her! When in doubt just remember :
WHEN IN AC THERE IS NOT NEED TO GIVE THE GIRL ANY MORE MONEY ONCE THE BARFINE IS PAYED!"
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?How much did you tip her? LOL
How much did you tip her? LOLThese Cheap Charlies are ruining the market, LOL.
Sir Lancelot
09-21-12, 12:28
LOL I'm sure I was fleeced. Ill keep reading to prevent it from next time.You paid too much but it's a steep learning curve going to Asia for pay-for-play. I bet everyone on this forum has stories that make them cringe from their 'cherry trip'! You live and learn and you seem the type who will catch on quickly.
My advice for any first-timers is never let the girls know it's your first time. If you do, they will sense money and it's more likely you'll be over-charged. If they ask 'you been here before? ' tell them it's your third time and it's your favourite place. I guarantee you won't be ripped off! My second piece of advice is to read this forum extensively before each trip. All info on prices is here and you can always ask questions. If you are armed with information when you are on the front-line, if you get quoted sky-high prices you can smile, say 'too much' and move on to the next bar.
Holy crap! Please learn from your mistakes!
To the other more experienced mongers: I assume it is still possible to get the girl's phone number and set up a rendezvous when she is off work thus avoiding stupid bar fines.
I think got scammed. I think I got duped into paying double twice at Altantis the last time I went.
I paid 6000 for a dancer. 3000 for the barfine, and 3000 to the girl, as I was told by the 'helpful' mamasan, that was the standard arraingement, and the mamasan told the girl gets none of the barfine.
I massively overpaid, right? You don't pay double on top of the BF, correct?
I mean you can tip after if you want, but you don't negotiate with the girl how much you're going to pay here on top of the Barfine, right?
Sorry for driving up the prices with my naiviety.
Llantarnam
09-22-12, 11:06
WHEN IN AC THERE IS NOT NEED TO GIVE THE GIRL ANY MORE MONEY ONCE THE BARFINE IS PAYED!"I guess it's a bit like an all inclusive hotel. One payment for the bar fine and everything after is included (maybe a tip if performance was exceptional).
How does it work between short / long time? Are there 2 different bar fines or do you tip the girl a bit extra is she stays long time?
How much would a Philippino working in AC on wages be paid per hour?
Reason I ask is it'd be interesting to know so appropriate tips can be decided.
While I come from a country where tipping is NOT normal, while away I believe in slipping security / housekeeping / waiters a little, improves the service.
One or two hours wages (at the person's rate) is not extravagant and can help the little things. It obviously is more meaningful to them financially than to me, but an appropriate tip is what I'm trying to determine.
I know they don't earn a huge amount, but the better hotels must pay a decent rate, that's what I'd like to know. No good tipping based on a street sweeper's rate, and no reason to tip based on US / Aust / EU rates.
So, any resident / regular foreign mongerers know how much staff at a good hotel get paid? Happy to use rates at say ABC as a basis, even though I'll be staying this time at Pacific Breeze.
Thanks in advance.
VB
LeknomForMe
09-22-12, 12:55
M: Wolve and NV are right. We don't quote long posts (variety of reasons). The "netiquette" is to clip it to only the relevant point, and use the word SNIP where you clipped out a portion. Then put your comments in. Its akin to leaving the toilet seat down for your gf.Yes of course I leave the seat down and make sure to sprinkle it a tad bit. Or I leave it up and she can put it down all dry and comfy.
Women want to run the government but they can't look out for their own ass?
Yes it's a drag scrolling down on a cell phone, but equally hard if you are posting from one and want to quote.
I just para phrase it saves a lot of anguish on both ends.
LeknomForMe.
I guess it's a bit like an all inclusive hotel. One payment for the bar fine and everything after is included (maybe a tip if performance was exceptional).
How does it work between short / long time? Are there 2 different bar fines or do you tip the girl a bit extra is she stays long time?A bar fine is a bar fine, is a bar fine, etc.
One very important item. Make sure that you, the girl, and the mommie understand exactly what you want from her. How long you expect her to stay, what services she should perform, etc.
IMHO this is the most important item, after you decide on which girl you want. Then she knows what is expected, and if there is a problem you have some recourse. It isn't very romantic, but neither is finding yourself with your dick in your hands when you expected it to be in her mouth.
Tipping is something I do for "extra performance", and never more than 2-3 hundred pesos. I almost always give them 100 for trike even though I know they will spend 8 for a jeep.
I also sometimes will give them money to buy something special to wear, if I want to see them dressed in a certain way.
LeknomForMe
09-22-12, 13:01
Maybe a little too late? Don't forget, the the early bird catches the worm! One thing more, wouldn't it be better to ask the girl if she is on her mens before paying 300 pesos for a drink? Just my 2 cents and the lessons I have learned in the past!
Otherwise an interesting post, brother!
Cheers!
HesekielsTwo things I ask the waitress, is she menstruating and is she a cherry girl, both are useless in my honest opinion, unless all you are interested in is chatting with a pretty girl over an overpriced drink.
Leknomforme
WhatsUrName
09-22-12, 14:49
A bar fine is a bar fine, is a bar fine, etc.
One very important item. Make sure that you, the girl, and the mommie understand exactly what you want from her. How long you expect her to stay, what services she should perform, etc.
IMHO this is the most important item, after you decide on which girl you want. Then she knows what is expected, and if there is a problem you have some recourse.Serious question here. So what IS the recourse? Suppose I take a 3000k dancer from Atlantis at 9PM. We call over Mommy and go over the details. All good. Everyone's on the same page, she's staying till 9AM. Then at midnight, she gets the <insert excuse here text message and tells you that she has to go. What is the recourse? If I go back to Atlantis, will Mommy let me pick another 3K dancer?
I just got back from 3 days in AC. It was my first trip there, and I did have a runner from Atlantis. I wasn't sure what to do. I debated going back to complain to Mommy, but decided against as I did take two pops. My biggest concern was that I would like to have a good reputation at the better bars, and stumbling in half drunk at 1AM raising hell because my hooker left early would not further those ends.
So what is my recourse, other than learning from it and trying to be a better picker for next time?
Thanks to Sir Lancelot for the outstanding field report.
So what is my recourse, other than learning from it and trying to be a better picker for next time?There's very little you can do. You could go back and simply ignore her, get another girl point at the one that left you, laugh a few times and then bar fine the girl you are with. It's childish, but that's about all you can do.
WestCoast1
09-22-12, 15:44
Clean out your inbox. Am receiving your PM's, but I cannot reply.
ThatGuy865
09-22-12, 16:35
Serious question here. So what IS the recourse? Suppose I take a 3000k dancer from Atlantis at 9PM. We call over Mommy and go over the details. All good. Everyone's on the same page, she's staying till 9AM. Then at midnight, she gets the <insert excuse here text message and tells you that she has to go. What is the recourse? If I go back to Atlantis, will Mommy let me pick another 3K dancer?
I just got back from 3 days in AC. It was my first trip there, and I did have a runner from Atlantis. I wasn't sure what to do. I debated going back to complain to Mommy, but decided against as I did take two pops. My biggest concern was that I would like to have a good reputation at the better bars, and stumbling in half drunk at 1AM raising hell because my hooker left early would not further those ends.
So what is my recourse, other than learning from it and trying to be a better picker for next time?
Thanks to Sir Lancelot for the outstanding field report.Here are a few things I think newbies can use.
For all bars. The BF price is an all inclusive. The girls part and bars are paid from it. No additional money is REQUIRED. But
Fields bars do not have St prices. Although some girls will say they will only go ST. So you are paying LT rate for a ST session.
Santos / Raymond st (Blow road). Have both ST and LT rates. Two different prices. Runners are RARE. But these are BJ girls and have HUGE mileage on them from quick 20 min BJ's all day in back rooms. Unless you catch one fresh from the province. (many take to their hotel room for better ambiance)
Perimeter bars. Some have ST rates. Some don't.
#1 rule of thumb to remember. After the Deed is done 1 time (god or bad) (no matter how long agreed or how many times). There are NO REFUNDS. From no bars. If you are LUCKY you might bet sympathy of a drink or see her verbally scolded (if that pleases you). But no refund.
Technically you were fucked. Maybe in more ways than one. But still you were fucked.
So choosing wisely is ALWAYS important.
Some choose to include the mamasan during the agreement between the girl. But in any case it won't matter once you have punched the cookie. Hehe. No refund.
Now if she refuses to sex period. Then you can take her back to the bar. Each bar has its own policy in this case. Some do NOTHING. You are just SOL. Some will refund the BF and others will offer another girl. But there is no STANDARD.
Remember this is ILLEGAL and really the bars have no upper hand in the matter. If they fire the girl. She just moves to another bar. If she's a earner. They lose serious money. Each bar only has so many REAL earners.
As for tip. I'd say that is a personal preference and each person has their own opinions
Tipping has been ingraned into the Philippino's by the USA so yes the girls look forward to tips. With an expectation on a certain level.
Many will not express it, until they have becomed seasoned BG's.
But as a standard. I'd say for
ST. 100p tip is about standard. Trike fare is usually not a necessity.
LT. 100p to 1000k has become the norm. Depending on tourist type and GFE.
A guy on a budget, trying to have a good time and be frugal. Might tip. 100 to 300p
Mid range tipper. 200 to 500p
And the guys where making memories is more important than money. 500 to 1000p.
Now having said the Tip amounts. Repeat service. Not only by the girl. But also the other girls in that bar. Will also be reflected by your tip.
Becos the girls will go back and tell what they got.
This does not mean a low tip ensures bad service. But I can tell you for a fact. A good one does 99% of the time. Ensure you are treated like the king you want to be.
Its a personal choice. Some feel. Well the girls give me good service even without. So why bother. Some like the exceptional service they receive. And say why not. They made me feel great.
Personally, I'm of the mindset. There is NO WHERE in the world. One can have a ENGLISH speaking "20 something" beautiful woman spend the ENTIRE NIGHT with you for under $100 USD / 4200php. Here in the USA. You are lucky if you can get 1 hr. For that rate. And with a "half ass" decent 30yr old hag.
So If I have at least a decent time with one of these girls. I give a tip for that fact alone.
So what is my recourse, other than learning from it and trying to be a better picker for next time?Well, YMMV, and this may not work at the big bars on Fields, but a couple years back I had a girl change the deal from LT to ST and wanted to leave after the first pop, she was one of those young, big-titted girls from Insomnia. So I said fine, lets go talk to the Mamasan. So, we went back to Insomnia and I talked to the Mamasan, and then she talked to the girl. She came back and said since I fucked her once, she can only give me back half my money, and I thought that was fair, so I took it.
Don't be afraid to go back to the Mamasan or manager and tell them what happened. It might not always work, but at least it shows the bars you won't accept this kind of behavior.
Serious question here. So what IS the recourse? Suppose I take a 3000k dancer from Atlantis at 9PM. We call over Mommy and go over the details. All good. Everyone's on the same page, she's staying till 9AM. Then at midnight, she gets the <insert excuse here text message and tells you that she has to go. What is the recourse? If I go back to Atlantis, will Mommy let me pick another 3K dancer?
I just got back from 3 days in AC. It was my first trip there, and I did have a runner from Atlantis. I wasn't sure what to do. I debated going back to complain to Mommy, but decided against as I did take two pops. My biggest concern was that I would like to have a good reputation at the better bars, and stumbling in half drunk at 1AM raising hell because my hooker left early would not further those ends.
So what is my recourse, other than learning from it and trying to be a better picker for next time?
Thanks to Sir Lancelot for the outstanding field report.As was said earlier, don't be shy about walking her back to the club and talk to the mommy. If you made the deal with the mommy present, most likely she will refund a good portion of the fine, if it is half, then the girl won't get anything, because I can guarantee you that the bar won't give up their half!
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Remember this is ILLEGAL and really the bars have no upper hand in the matter. If they fire the girl. She just moves to another bar. If she's a earner. They lose serious money. Each bar only has so many REAL earners.ThatGuy and others.
Please note that the software on this site allows you to just type in regular sentences and it AUTOMATICALLY wraps it around when you upload it. You do NOT need to put hard returns in the post when you see split words on the screen.
When you use a hard return you get new sentences with random full stops, like in the segment that I retained from your original post and posted it above as an illustration of what you did.
If you want your post to look coherent and not turn out as gibberish, hit the "Preview Report" button and RE-READ it before you post it. If it needs editing then go back and edit it. If it is OK just hit "Upload Report".
Hardly rocket science, but it makes reading posts so much easier if there is some more legibility and care taken to post properly. I guess it is just the "academic / teacher" in me that prompts me to remind guys about these simple strategies.
WestCoast1
09-23-12, 06:21
ThatGuy and others.
Please note that the software on this site allows you to just type in regular sentences and it AUTOMATICALLY wraps it around when you upload it. You do NOT need to put hard returns in the post when you see split words on the screen.
When you use a hard return you get new sentences with random full stops, like in the segment that I retained from your original post and posted it above as an illustration of what you did.
If you want your post to look coherent and not turn out as gibberish, hit the "Preview Report" button and RE-READ it before you post it. If it needs editing then go back and edit it. If it is OK just hit "Upload Report".I would guess he did that from his phone. I read the site from my phone sometimes too, but I don't add reports from it (hard to control hard returns makes them look odd).
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-12, 08:01
As was said earlier, don't be shy about walking her back to the club and talk to the mommy. If you made the deal with the mommy present, most likely she will refund a good portion of the fine, if it is half, then the girl won't get anything, because I can guarantee you that the bar won't give up their half!To Sky.
I was in AC back in May barfined a hot girl at Camelot club I ask the girl if you can stay.
All night before I take her in front of the mamasan and the waitress and she said yes and back to the hotel after 1 hr one shot she said she need to go back to the club and pick up something and be back in 30 min and I never see her again that night and the next day I when back and complain to the mamasan she said is up to the girl to stay all night nothing she can do and I ask for a manager she said not avalible and I go to the waitress from the night before and she bring a big aussie guy the club manager and he confirm with the waitress indeed that the girl say she will stay all night and he give he a 1000 p refund out of the 1900 p barfined so for you guy that want a refund go to the manager not the mamasan and I give the waitress half of the refund for telling the true.
Fast Eddie 48
Llantarnam
09-23-12, 12:35
Personally, I'm of the mindset. There is NO WHERE in the world. One can have a ENGLISH speaking "20 something" beautiful woman spend the ENTIRE NIGHT with you for under $100 USD / 4200php. Here in the USA. You are lucky if you can get 1 hr. For that rate. And with a "half ass" decent 30yr old hag.Got to agree with you on this one. When I go on holiday my only (selfish) interest is in me having a good time.
In london its £100 an hour for an eastern european girl and £150 for a half decent english girl. If I have the chance to spend the night with an enthusiastic drop dead gorgeous Fields bar girl for 3000p, why would I say no. I'm not going to spend the next 2 hours trawing all the other bars to see if I can find another stunner that's 500p cheaper.
Here are a few things I think newbies can use.
For all bars. The BF price is an all inclusive. The girls part and bars are paid from it. No additional money is REQUIRED. But
Fields bars do not have St prices. Although some girls will say they will only go ST. So you are paying LT rate for a ST session.
Santos / Raymond st (Blow road). Have both ST and LT rates. Two different prices. Runners are RARE. But these are BJ girls and have HUGE mileage on them from quick 20 min BJ's all day in back rooms. Unless you catch one fresh from the province. (many take to their hotel room for better ambiance)
Perimeter bars. Some have ST rates. Some don't.
#1 rule of thumb to remember. After the Deed is done 1 time (god or bad) (no matter how long agreed or how many times). There are NO REFUNDS. From no bars. If you are LUCKY you might bet sympathy of a drink or see her verbally scolded (if that pleases you). But no refund.
Technically you were fucked. Maybe in more ways than one. But still you were fucked.
So choosing wisely is ALWAYS important.
Some choose to include the mamasan during the agreement between the girl. But in any case it won't matter once you have punched the cookie. Hehe. No refund.
Now if she refuses to sex period. Then you can take her back to the bar. Each bar has its own policy in this case. Some do NOTHING. You are just SOL. Some will refund the BF and others will offer another girl. But there is no STANDARD.
Remember this is ILLEGAL and really the bars have no upper hand in the matter. If they fire the girl. She just moves to another bar. If she's a earner. They lose serious money. Each bar only has so many REAL earners.
As for tip. I'd say that is a personal preference and each person has their own opinions
Tipping has been ingraned into the Philippino's by the USA so yes the girls look forward to tips. With an expectation on a certain level.
Many will not express it, until they have becomed seasoned BG's.
But as a standard. I'd say for
ST. 100p tip is about standard. Trike fare is usually not a necessity.
LT. 100p to 1000k has become the norm. Depending on tourist type and GFE.
A guy on a budget, trying to have a good time and be frugal. Might tip. 100 to 300p
Mid range tipper. 200 to 500p
And the guys where making memories is more important than money. 500 to 1000p.
Now having said the Tip amounts. Repeat service. Not only by the girl. But also the other girls in that bar. Will also be reflected by your tip.
Becos the girls will go back and tell what they got.
This does not mean a low tip ensures bad service. But I can tell you for a fact. A good one does 99% of the time. Ensure you are treated like the king you want to be.
Its a personal choice. Some feel. Well the girls give me good service even without. So why bother. Some like the exceptional service they receive. And say why not. They made me feel great.
Personally, I'm of the mindset. There is NO WHERE in the world. One can have a ENGLISH speaking "20 something" beautiful woman spend the ENTIRE NIGHT with you for under $100 USD / 4200php. Here in the USA. You are lucky if you can get 1 hr. For that rate. And with a "half ass" decent 30yr old hag.
So If I have at least a decent time with one of these girls. I give a tip for that fact alone.Very good report.
Just need to add couple of things. I have seen and heard guys arguing in the bar, in the room, outside etc with the girl about sex or lack of it. One guy smacked a girl next to my room because she would not do whatever causing a commotion waking up everybody. Security was called and he calmed her down and she left. Good thing the guy did not end up in jail.
When you barfine a girl all expect mind blowing sex all night. Reality is it happens only sometimes. These girls especially the popular ones are fucked daily. Last thing they want is to get get their pussy sore affecting their earning.
Whatever you do, do not force her.
Age old question is how to spot a good performer? I have barfined good looking ones as well as average ones. How they act in the bar before barfine has nothing to do how they behave in the room. They are good actresses. Only one thing they know is to spread their legs one time minimum. Why? Because the bar said so. A girl who does not want sex will let you with a variety of reasons why she does not want sex before you barfine.
Do not think you can change her because of your charming personality. They have literally seen hundreds of you.
Be safe and have fun. If one girl does not satisfy you spend little more and barfine another. After all it is less than $50.
Like anywhere else before you barfine acting or not check her attitude towards you. Ask questions. Phi girls generally tell the truth when pushed.
. How they act in the bar before barfine has nothing to do how they behave in the room. check her attitude towards you. Ask questions. Phi girls generally tell the truth when pushed.Yes, Sam. This is why I prefer DIA girls and non barfines but I do barfine once in a while after extensive interview and fondling the merchandise.
Cheers
I have read many good trip reports thanks for all the info guys. I was looking for hotel suggestions I want to be near the action I have been to cebu and manila but never angeles I think its time to check it out. What hotels do you guys recommend for best sexual experience?
Llantarnam
09-23-12, 19:49
I have read many good trip reports thanks for all the info guys. I was looking for hotel suggestions I want to be near the action I have been to cebu and manila but never angeles I think its time to check it out. What hotels do you guys recommend for best sexual experience?There is a seperate thread for Angeles hotels. If you can afford it try ABC.
Member #4387
09-23-12, 21:46
I have delivered some ISG FR`s in other threads such as Thailand / BKK and China / Beijing and through them I pretty much support Vielendank in his writing regarding DIA girls. I also use other datingsites such as Tagged (mostly for China) , Thaifriendly and Thailovelinks ++. I use these sites to build up a portifolio of girls available to meet me when I arrive in their country.
This gives me a wide choice of ladies to choose from when I have been hitting freelanceladies hard over a certain period of time. I like sometimes to add a bit of normality into my mongering and "wine and dine" a naive DIA girl is allways (with a few exceptions) refreshing for my system. These dates works as they do in Norway when you hit a girl and hardly ever have I been dissapointed. Ofcourse some girls (early in my mongering) are by far as beautiful as their datingsites pics but these days I soulve this problem by having some webcam sessions upfront (decent no nudity although I have been offering some tittyplay without me refusing, hehe).
I have barfined one girl together with a wingman once bcs we wanted to DP a girl. This is the only time I can remeber to have barfined a girl. I can visit Go Go`s if I am together with people enjoying such places but I don't buy myself a girl from a Go go. And when people here speak of bad sessions, mamasan`s, agreeing with price upon departure this is not me at all. Working mostly the freelancemarket out of nightclubs (not streetwalkers even if that also have happened) I never agree upon price and if girls quote me a price then it is a no go. I have encountered one extremely naive (she had to be fresh from the fields) at Marine Disco in Pattaya claiming she wanted 1000. 1500BHT for LT and then I said OK, hehe. And she satyed also until late afternoon and I think I added some BHT for her to leave as well. I have never encountered any problem not agreeing about the price except recently from a Manila MBC girl (recent visit). I took her ST and that was communicated and after 2 pops (she was great fuck by the way) I gave her 1500 and no tip. Then she acted very dissapointed but I just stack to my payment and out she left. I could ofcourse give her more the session was well worth atleast 2K Piso but I was leaving the same afternoon (for Thailand) so I had limited access of Pisos. I can not see any advantages barfining a girl from a bar or a Go Go since I never have encountered any stealing or violence (ex from a LB when I was a rookie) or problems with payment. I probably pay just a tad more than the marketprice in general but the girls don't know that before they are to leave.
By working a combination between freelancegirls and datingsitesgirls I have now build myself quite some regulars I can meet when I am in their vicinity (upon availability ofcourse some of these ladies have fulltime jobs so I have to respect that). It is nice to have some quick fucks available sometimes without paying for sex or wining and dining as well.
I don't want to promote datingsites girls but in my experience their are not so many scammers out there as we would like to think or maby I have just been lucky from my picking of girls. I allways treat the girls nice and I lie just a litle bit to them. I am not interested in stating to many personal details or work and beeing in a relationship in Norway I also leave that part out as well. If I am in no "wine and dine" mood but still horny and up for meeting a datingsite girl I give her the "I am sick routine" and for most parts they actually come to visit me in the hotelroom and not unlikely there are sympathy fucks available. Then you save a lot of valuable time and normal girls can be hard to get into the sack at the first meeting. This is a way around that routine. And you can have a good laugh later after the girl have left not beeing sick at all. Ofcourse I treat the girls nice and I am kind. Like Vielendank I also ask if the datingsitesgirls will have some pocket changes for a meal or taxi but mostly it beeing refused. It feels very normal. Almost like beeing home and sometimes after hardcore freelanceaction that is nice.
Happy mongering games
Tally Wacker
09-23-12, 22:17
I was suppose to meet up with Screaming Beaver to teach him how this works but he didn't show up. Maybe next time SB!Great report V. Same approach I take as well. LOL about screaming dick.
Screaming Beaver
09-24-12, 02:26
I also didn't pay them a penny for their time except the meals, massages, etc. I have to say that I offered each one of them money for tuk tuk, food, etc. And not one of them would take money from me.Can you count how many times in Vielenstink's posting he insists he did not pay them anything? It's bizarre, he claims to have stayed at the Pacific Breeze which is right in the middle of the action but insists he did not go to any of the bars. It's almost as if he's concerned his Mother will find out he's paid for some beaver.
He did however pay for a few massages, LOL. Also, a tuk tuk? WTF? I don't even think he was in AC. I know bullshit when I read it and this is bullshit.
BrainDrain
09-24-12, 04:47
I have read many good trip reports thanks for all the info guys. I was looking for hotel suggestions I want to be near the action I have been to cebu and manila but never angeles I think its time to check it out. What hotels do you guys recommend for best sexual experience?Mate, depends on your goals. If you are in town for a long time to maximise your value then you need to look at P1000-P1500 establishments. If you are there for a short time and can afford it, the go ABC. Even if you are out to extend your stay, treat yourself to at least a couple of nights at ABC.
I'm planning to be back in AC in November, just 2-3 nights. Can't imagine staying anywhere else. Even thinking of getting one of their high end suites for a night and organising a party of girls via DIA. While western hotels often have a No Party policy, I think ABC is once again upside down on this and encourages it by emphasise on "Well stocked mini bar".
BD
i had a real dud from mirrors (over a year ago). the next day, the front desk (of the hotel) suggested i go to the mamasan, and she wasn't very helpful. later, i asked for mgmt and i was quickly in a meeting with one of the hotel managers and the filipino (male) manager of the bar. wow, they took it very seriously. i actually felt a little bad because i mentioned that i wanted to eat and the gal suggested some place on fields. the manager immediately seemed peeved that the gal hadn't directed me to the hotel restaurant . which was apparently open 24 hours, but i didn't know that. i got my money back, but really didn't want to get her fired. i guess i have a soft heart, just like the cs. i agree with fasted, but i would also say that you shouldn't complain unless you've really been deceived. and try to keep your cool. even if you don't get any satisfaction, the gal will likely become aware of the complaint. and might treat the next customer a bit better.
and don't burn your bridges. years ago i had a real good performer in cebu, so i barfined her my last night and she did the runner. i was stunned. but over the last couple years i've bumped into her several times and she's given me good info in the bar in exchange for a drink. everyone has a bad day. x.
to sky.
i was in ac back in may barfined a hot girl at camelot club i ask the girl if you can stay.
all night before i take her in front of the mamasan and the waitress and she said yes and back to the hotel after 1 hr one shot she said she need to go back to the club and pick up something and be back in 30 min and i never see her again that night and the next day i when back and complain to the mamasan she said is up to the girl to stay all night nothing she can do and i ask for a manager she said not avalible and i go to the waitress from the night before and she bring a big aussie guy the club manager and he confirm with the waitress indeed that the girl say she will stay all night and he give he a 1000 p refund out of the 1900 p barfined so for you guy that want a refund go to the manager not the mamasan and i give the waitress half of the refund for telling the true.
fast eddie 48
Mr Enternational
09-24-12, 14:48
Can you count how many times in Vielenstink's posting he insists he did not pay them anything? It's bizarre, he claims to have stayed at the Pacific Breeze which is right in the middle of the action but insists he did not go to any of the bars. It's almost as if he's concerned his Mother will find out he's paid for some beaver.
He did however pay for a few massages, LOL. Also, a tuk tuk? WTF? I don't even think he was in AC. I know bullshit when I read it and this is bullshit.Not every girl is a hooker and not every guy likes hanging in bars. I am on the same page / style as V. I live in Pattaya and most of the women I deal with are not hookers. Even some who are hookers by trade don't always want money from me. And I don't do bars either. I prefer discos or drinking in my room if I want to drink.
Oh wow never paid etc etc. Neither did I for 30 years. It no big deal.
Now I pay and am happy to do so.
I don't want love or another wife. Never want to feel as if I owe a woman anything again.
Payment made deal is done. Easy.
Also all the talk about interview questions and stupid mamasans, runners, amount of pops.
Are you guys for real?
I never ask them anything prefering the mystery of the unknown.
Backing my people skills to find a winner. Sometimes you lose but more often win.
Always be kind but never soft.
Whats with all the indignation over being scammed by a badly chosen hoe.
Would hate to think what you guys would do to my ex wifes lawyer.
Just tell her that she lied to you and you are disappointed with her.
And really who has time in their life to chat for more than one hour per week to a filipina?
Could there be anything less stimulating than talking garbage with them. Do you guys really get excited if they show some boobs?
Angeles is an an adventure.
Sir Lancelot
09-24-12, 18:40
I also didn't pay them a penny for their time except the meals, massages, etc.Great report. I remember a wise old sage once telling me that there's no such thing as free sex. You didn't pay any barfines but it costs money to wine, dine and 69.
I'm curious why you chose Angeles though. Why not go to somewhere with more charm and ambience and a bigger supply of girls? I've used DIA myself but there weren't many girls from Angeles and the profiles of most of those I found suggested they were moonlighting bargirls. Compare that to Cebu where there are many, many times more girls.
GuyLuvsParty
09-24-12, 19:34
Looking to get my teeth cleaned, should I try the Malls or go to BKK instead?
Would there be any health safety concerns if I used a Dentist here?
GuyLuvsParty
09-24-12, 20:14
Going for 2 weeks next month and would like to thank everyone's intel to help on this trip from where to go, stay, transportation, and saving money tips! The forums and internet just makes it so less stressful and confusing, without them I would have never had the nerve to go for it, big thank you!
GuyLuvsParty
09-24-12, 20:20
If they do, finally a country that I can communicate with most of the population during my travels. Woot!
Fast Eddie 48
09-24-12, 22:05
i had a real dud from mirrors (over a year ago). the next day, the front desk (of the hotel) suggested i go to the mamasan, and she wasn't very helpful. later, i asked for mgmt and i was quickly in a meeting with one of the hotel managers and the filipino (male) manager of the bar. wow, they took it very seriously. i actually felt a little bad because i mentioned that i wanted to eat and the gal suggested some place on fields. the manager immediately seemed peeved that the gal hadn't directed me to the hotel restaurant. which was apparently open 24 hours, but i didn't know that. i got my money back, but really didn't want to get her fired. i guess i have a soft heart, just like the cs. i agree with fasted, but i would also say that you shouldn't complain unless you've really been deceived. and try to keep your cool. even if you don't get any satisfaction, the gal will likely become aware of the complaint. and might treat the next customer a bit better.
and don't burn your bridges. years ago i had a real good performer in cebu, so i barfined her my last night and she did the runner. i was stunned. but over the last couple years i've bumped into her several times and she's given me good info in the bar in exchange for a drink. everyone has a bad day. x.to x man,
yes the mamasan are useless they alway side with the girl, i didn't even ask for a refund just want to pick another girl i was mad because the girl tell me she will come right back but never did, the manager told me after he talk to girl find out she is lying he want to teach the girl a lesson and refund me her cut of her comission.
fast eddie 48
Tally Wacker
09-24-12, 22:13
He has been doing nothing but saying shit about me for months. I offered to "show him the ropes" but he always fails to show. Wonder why.Well I was thinking he just missed the Bus but it sounds like he really missed the Plane again.
You may want to take the public bus back to Manila airport on your way home. It's real cheap and actually a lot of fun if you have any sense of adventure at all. For example, you get to watch a full length comedy movie on the bus completely in Tagalog and you will not understand what the fuck is going on but all the flips on the bus with you will be laughing hysterically. Some of them were bar girls who I befriended and got their contact information. Be advised you will probably be the only foreigner on the bus which is pretty cool. If you get on the bus with several Red Horse Beers you will be the King for 2 hours. Enjoy
Tally Wacker
09-24-12, 22:17
Do you guys really get excited if they show some boobs?
Angeles is an an adventure.I love boobies!
GuyLuvsParty
09-24-12, 22:20
Can you count how many times in Vielenstink's posting he insists he did not pay them anything? It's bizarre, he claims to have stayed at the Pacific Breeze which is right in the middle of the action but insists he did not go to any of the bars. It's almost as if he's concerned his Mother will find out he's paid for some beaver.
He did however pay for a few massages, LOL. Also, a tuk tuk? WTF? I don't even think he was in AC. I know bullshit when I read it and this is bullshit.Hey SB, let him live his fantasy life, some people's fantasy can't be reality which we are very Fortunate.
GuyLuvsParty
09-24-12, 22:44
About fantasy world for SB, I realized I don't know what I was talking about. LOL.
Thanks and apreciative!
When you arrive at Clark, there are vans lined up to the left of exit area.
I have read here of prices P300 to P500 to be dropped off in Fields area. Can someone tell me what is actually the correct price. I know P200 dif is peanuts, but just want to pay the correct price, if there is one. Don't want Jeepney prices, just the correct pick up van price. Thank you for any info you can supply.
Pip Jaeger
09-25-12, 19:38
When you arrive at Clark, there are vans lined up to the left of exit area.
I have read here of prices P300 to P500 to be dropped off in Fields area. Can someone tell me what is actually the correct price. I know P200 dif is peanuts, but just want to pay the correct price, if there is one. Don't want Jeepney prices, just the correct pick up van price. Thank you for any info you can supply.When I visited in June I was approached and quoted 500php to Fields Ave, I didn't bother to try to negotiate as I was waiting for the van from ABC (free for guests).
Does your hotel offer airport pick up service? Another tactic, chat up another passenger (s) from your flight and see if you can split the cost.
Wolvenvacht
09-25-12, 20:08
I also didn't pay them a penny for their time except the meals, massages, etc. I have to say that I offered each one of them money for tuk tuk, food, etc. And not one of them would take money from me. I know there are a lot of guys on here that are negative on DIA for a variety of reasons but this is the second time in a row that I used DIA exclusively and never once paid a bar fine or for sexWhich wise man ever said "We don't pay them to come with us and have sex. We pay them to leave us in the morning."
Sir Lancelot
09-25-12, 20:22
I go to Angeles because I go there for work. Usually around 3-4 times a year. I also work in Singapore, Wuhan, Phnom Penh, Hong Kong and various other cities in Asia. My work also takes me to Central and South America. I go to San Jose, Costa Rica, Panama City, Panama, and I have a trip to Bogota next month. For example, when I was there last month I also spend 4 days in Phnom Penh and 4 days in Singapore. You do pay for it one way or another, I agree 100. But, I would rather pay when I'm also enjoying what I'm paying for (meals, massage, trips, etc) then giving it to some old hag in a bar. I also like the quality of girls on DIA and Tagged more then the hardcore girls that are in most bars unless, of course, they just got off the bus.This forum must be a goldmine for you, traveling to all of those places. I'm envious.
I agree with your rationale and it makes perfect sense. That said, my favourite girls are the cute and 'innocent' types and I find that there are always plenty of those to be found even in the big bars of Fields. I find half the fun is trying to find them.
Make sure you go to Heart of Darkness when you're in Phnom Penh. Now that is what I call a target-rich environment.
Fast Eddie 48
09-25-12, 21:39
When you arrive at Clark, there are vans lined up to the left of exit area.
I have read here of prices P300 to P500 to be dropped off in Fields area. Can someone tell me what is actually the correct price. I know P200 dif is peanuts, but just want to pay the correct price, if there is one. Don't want Jeepney prices, just the correct pick up van price. Thank you for any info you can supply.Sxxxx,
The cheaper way is the air con shuttle to Clark SM mall 30 ph or to DAU bus station 45 ph near terminal one or there are Jeepney.
To check point for 12 ph, if you want to paid 500 ph take the taxi drop you off in front of the hotel.
Fast Eddie 48
Which wise man ever said "We don't pay them to come with us and have sex. We pay them to leave us in the morning."It doesn't need much wisdom, just a little experience.
Mr Enternational
09-26-12, 02:05
When I visited in June I was approached and quoted 500php to Fields Ave, I didn't bother to try to negotiate as I was waiting for the van from ABC (free for guests).
Does your hotel offer airport pick up service? Another tactic, chat up another passenger (s) from your flight and see if you can split the cost.There is no splitting the cost for the vans / taxis. They charge by the person. And I think Angeles City is the only place in the world where it will cost you more to get from the hotel to the airport than the airport to the hotel. Highway robbery I tell you. Sure 400 pesos is nothing to us, but for a 10 minute ride it is outrageous. I can go 2 hours to Manila for 128 pesos, but for double that price I can't even go 10 minutes from Clark to Fields? Nothing you can do about it but suck it up as a cost of doing monkey business.
There is no splitting the cost for the vans / taxis.Well, maybe you just didn't ask nicely? .
I have never paid more than P 300, sometimes much less (like 150 to driver when he had spotted a greenhorn and asked me if OK to bring it along)
King Squared
09-26-12, 03:00
Sxxxx,
The cheaper way is the air con shuttle to Clark SM mall 30 ph or to DAU bus station 45 ph near terminal one or there are Jeepney.
To check point for 12 ph, if you want to paid 500 ph take the taxi drop you off in front of the hotel.
Fast Eddie 48Where are the air con shuttles to Clark SM mall?
I usually find that 300 pesos will get you into your hotel on Fields. They sometimes ask for more but hold firm on 300 pesos and you should get it. Be sure to confirm the price before you get in. I was last there 3 weeks ago.
Thanks for the nice and quick response by you 6 chaps, time of me posting.
Being picked up by hotel was not an option in my case. Don't want an intermediate destination either, then getting involved with a trike, with all my bags.
Van direct to Hotel, which I enquired about. Looks like P300 is the correct price, especially when one or more persons are sharing the van.
P400 if your the only one and impatient to bargain firmly. P500 if I am a fool.
I agree with Enternational, rip off. A taxi from Manila or Cebu Airports to their city centres, in a taxi, is much longer, but cost half or less of that asked by the Angeles Mafia.
Thanks for the response. Now can confidently hold out for P300.
I love boobies!Tally wacker. I assume those are really old pics right? She isn't still around. And certainly didn't look that good last time I saw her.
Mr Enternational
09-26-12, 05:06
Well, maybe you just didn't ask nicely? .
I have never paid more than P 300, sometimes much less (like 150 to driver when he had spotted a greenhorn and asked me if OK to bring it along) Maybe it was 300 to and 400 returning. It's been since March so I can't remember exactly. I just remember it was more expensive returning to the airport.
Maybe it was 300 to and 400 returning. It's been since March so I can't remember exactly. I just remember it was more expensive returning to the airport.The Swiss Chalet has a limo service for 300 in both directions. I don't know if that is only for their guest. 300 is already a lot for just a few kilometers.
Mr Enternational
09-26-12, 07:29
The Swiss Chalet has a limo service for 300 in both directions. I don't know if that is only for their guest. 300 is already a lot for just a few kilometers.Thanks for that info. It sounds like a winner to me since I always stay a couple of steps away at Central Park.
I will do some good reports when I go for the second time which will be later this year, but I have a couple of questions, one about the weather, and one about the girls.
When does the rainy season end? I can't show up in December as my schedule dictates I arrive in late Oct or early to mid Nov.
Will it still be full rainy season then?
But more importantly, how will it be, girl-wise? I save up a long time to get the stunners at the upscale bars, and I heard those types start arriving in December at the start of the dry season. This isn't fully true is it? New girls show up all year round, right?
Another reason I ask is I like the GFE, and it seems the only way to get it an upscale bar is to get a girl when she is quite new to the scene.
Any thoughts?
Thanks for that info. It sounds like a winner to me since I always stay a couple of steps away at Central Park.Going on their website it looks like they only offer service to guests, but I have emailed them and asked if non guests can use their service. Will let you guys know if they reply.
Margarita will pick up and or deliver to Airport regardless of where you are staying. However if you read their website, margaritastation. Com, you will see they are currently having difficulties with the authorities as the Mafia has organised it, so that they get the business and not others.
Margarita also post alternative information which is interesting, as follows :
"Normal airport taxi at 300 pesos. These are still available but you need to specify to the taxi mafia at the arrivals exit that you want a normal taxi and NOT a VIP taxi. There is an A4 sheet of paper on the little taxi hut that lists the 300 pesos rate to ANYWHERE in the fields area.
VIP airport taxi at 500 pesos. These are the first options that are usually presented to people on exiting the airport. I have no idea what the VIP service is as I have never used it but I suspect it's exactly the same as a normal taxi. DO not choose this option unless you enjoy being taken for an overpriced ride".
Hey need some advise in deciding if I should spend some time here or not, I like girlie, pussy, strip bars but I will have that in Cebu City for over a week so the question is: Do Angeles offer something above Cebu exceptmore of the same, bigger selection etc? Is it more fun? Could I be more luck finding any of the below?
1: Silicone: do any of the angeles girls have implants, if so any particular club one should visit?
2: Shaved: are girls more likely to be shaved in the bars than compared to freelance DIA girls etc?
3: Hard core: are the Angeles girls more open to more hardcore activities do you reckon? Anal, deepthroat etc?
Hey need some advise in deciding if I should spend some time here or not, I like girlie, pussy, strip bars but I will have that in Cebu City for over a week so the question is: Do Angeles offer something above Cebu exceptmore of the same, bigger selection etc? Is it more fun? Could I be more luck finding any of the below?
1: Silicone: do any of the angeles girls have implants, if so any particular club one should visit?
2: Shaved: are girls more likely to be shaved in the bars than compared to freelance DIA girls etc?
3: Hard core: are the Angeles girls more open to more hardcore activities do you reckon? Anal, deepthroat etc?If its sex that you are after then AC is the way to go. Cebu has few very small bars compared to AC. Cebu is more of a DIA pick up city with few bars here and there as oppose to AC which is one big brothel / bar city with thousands to chose from.
1. You won't find much silicone in AC or phils altogether. Its still expensive and out of reach for most of the girls there.
2. Almost all are shaved, this is pretty much for the whole of phils. Bargirls, freelancers, DIA all the same, I would say more then 90% are shaven.
3. Yes it is. Look for older more experienced girls (around 25yo) and yeah you will find it. Negotiate before the barfine, tell them what you want and you will find the right girls.
Radical Guy
09-26-12, 16:43
2. Almost all are shaved, this is pretty much for the whole of phils. Bargirls, freelancers, DIA all the same, I would say more then 90% are shaven.That's one reason I would have no interest in bar girls. I am really turned off by the "plucked chicken" look. When I was mongering, I always preferred non-PFP girls from the provinces, and they almost never shave. I married one of them 8 years ago, and my 26-year-old wife has never in her life shaved her pussy, which is perfect for me!
RG
2. Almost all are shaved, this is pretty much for the whole of phils. Bargirls, freelancers, DIA all the same, I would say more then 90% are shaven.True. One DIA I did actually grew back a healthy amount of pussy hair prior to a repeat meet (I had expressed dislike for bald pussies the first time). I was pleasantly surprised by this sophisticated level of "costumer service" on my second visit (including much improved oral skills). How she handled the pussy hair logistics with other bookings just before my arrival is beyond me, but if you meet a DIA with her pussy hair growing, I'm probably coming soon.
Llantarnam
09-26-12, 20:07
3. Yes it is. Look for older more experienced girls (around 25yo) and yeah you will find it. Negotiate before the barfine, tell them what you want and you will find the right girls.In the big bars what's the modus operandi for finding a girl that does what you are looking for?
Do you tell the waitress what you want, tell the mommy, or keep picking girls you fancy until you find the right one. The last option could be a long drawn out process!
Fast Eddie 48
09-26-12, 22:32
Where are the air con shuttles to Clark SM mall?
I usually find that 300 pesos will get you into your hotel on Fields. They sometimes ask for more but hold firm on 300 pesos and you should get it. Be sure to confirm the price before you get in. I was last there 3 weeks ago.King,
You didn't read my post outside terminal one red shuttle.
Fast Eddie 48
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