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Streetlooker
12-21-12, 20:34
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.
On my last night in AC, I really did not was to screw up. So I went back to Alaska to look for Daizy. Well, that night was Daizy's night off! So I sat there wondering what to do. I really did not fancy walking all over AC checking out the bars and getting another dud. So I started to look at the Alaskan girls closely, telling myself that I have to pick one from here. I finally settled on a cute girl name Ann. I waved to her to come over. She was immediately cuddly and chatty which was a good sign. We talked for a while and then I BF her. When we left Alaska around 9:30 PM, I took her to a little restaurant to eat as we were hungry. Then we went back to my hotel.
When we go to my room, I asked her if she wants to shower first or should I? She said 'why can't we shower together? ' You should see the smile on my face. I knew it was going to be a great night. It was! We not only had great sex but we cuddled and talked into the night and she stayed until late morning. I am sorry Westcoast, I gave her a nice tip.
That afternoon I took a trike to Dau and then hopped on a Victory Liner bus to Manila, then the MIA bus to Manila Airport. Fortunately I got the emails of my two favorite girls from Alaska, Daizy & Ann. We have been exchanging emails regularly but they have not asked for money. I can't wait to return in February. I know this time I will have at least 2 great nights!My last two trips to Angeles I pulled at least ten girls from Alaska. Not only do the girls take the utmost of care of you but the owner is always there and makes sure that you are serviced in a way that is satisfactory. Every time I returned I was asked by him if all went well.
Granted, they may not have the best looking talent but sometimes satisfaction overides beauty.
I know who Daizy is and have not (as of yet) BF her. I have seen a couple of 1st hand revues and have been told she has a great set of tits. In April I think I'll give it a try if she's still there!
Rumer also has it that she likes girls so. If you favor 2 at a time. Just saying!
LeknomForMe
12-21-12, 21:07
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.Let me see, hmmmmm, ok, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in Lake Washington. But then who gives a fuck right?
No I agree with you there is a lot to do in or near ac. If you go just outside of ac there are some small bars that have some good acoustic music and hot chic singers. For instance, I took one of the waitresses from the clarkton hotel out for diner and drinks. I ended up taking her and her hunchback gay cousin (chaperone) out to a bar called I believe the hawaiian bar they had karaoke first then a live rock band and they were really good. The cousin turned out to have an almost perfect saprano voice. Unfortunately I couldn't get the little shit to bugger off so I could get into the waitresses knickers. But we still had a great time.
Leknomforme
Fast Eddie 48
12-21-12, 21:20
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.Streetlooker,
There are more options if you can go to Subic bay or manila for a few days only 90 min away by bus or you can fly to cebu or boracay only one hr flight, there are more thing to do in AC than 10 yr ago but barfined is much cheaper then.
Fast Eddie 48
Screaming Beaver
12-21-12, 21:21
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.Very true. I'm usually busy while I'm there with many of the activities you speak of and having a damn good time. These clowns that complain there's nothing else to do but drink and fuck are usually the same guys that do nothing but drink (and no fucking) while they are back home. In other words, they are pretty boring people.
OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.Other than snow skiing, can't think of a damn thing!
Pete Benetar
12-22-12, 01:42
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. .Liink below: Large male cohort who should be perfectly happy with just the sex AC provides, but apparently without the wherewithal to relocate or experience the wonders of AC before apocalyptic demise. Fuck away Mongers, The End is Near!
'The online survey of 3, 036 adult men...asked about their end-of-world regrets too: One in 4 men said they would regret not having more sex if the world does end.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/18/shock-poll-amid-fears-of-apocalypse-men-regret-not-having-more-sex/
Well, you don't want to be hiking that volcano in rainy season. No would actually be a great time to do it. LOL.
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.
I have traveled all over Asia. Most of you were right about nothing much to do in AC except drinking and sex whereas in other cities there are historical and cultural sites, gourmet food, street and night markets, etc.
However, I am drawn to AC every year exactly because there is nothing else to do. It is the ultimate relaxing vacation, no agenda, no time table, no hassles. I sleep and wake up whenever I want to, eat whenever and whatever I want to, sometimes one meal a day, sometime three meals a day. If I want to drink and / or get pussy, I can. If I don't feel like it, I don't. During the day, I relax, catch up on my reading, surf the web, cleanup the junk-data in my laptop, walk in the mall, or just do nothing in my room.
The most important thing is IT'S VERY CHEAP. For the same price there are very few places that can compete with AC. Finally, AC is English-friendly. I suppose I can get all of the above in Mexico, Dominican Republic or some other place in Latin America but I don't speak Spanish.
If only AC is near a beach.
Doppel One
12-22-12, 07:03
If only AC is near a beach.Take a look at Pattaya in it's present ugly manifestation. Packed to the gills in high season with hordes of Russians, Chinese, Indian tourists etc etc.
Believe me AC's saving grace is that it's NOT near a beach.
Those of you lamenting the influx of other Asian tourists and dreaming of having exclusive rights to the AC playground might find that the profile of competing mongers increases over the next year or so. PAL is increasing its flights to Mumbai next year.
http://www.expresstravelworld.com/201201/market09.shtml
Those of you lamenting the influx of other Asian tourists and dreaming of having exclusive rights to the AC playground might find that the profile of competing mongers increases over the next year or so. PAL is increasing its flights to Mumbai next year.
http://www.expresstravelworld.com/201201/market09.shtmlNot only AC sees an increase of indian tourists or travellers. This brings along new attitudes and approaches. Pretty much sure within a short while they will adapt to the new territories and leave certain approaches back home. Seen this in Thai forums and UAE forums. Unfortunately the growing number of their traveling population might mean there will always be new guys coming around and carrying their own style on board.
I have traveled all over Asia. Most of you were right about nothing much to do in AC except drinking and sex whereas in other cities there are historical and cultural sites, gourmet food, street and night markets, etc.
However, I am drawn to AC every year exactly because there is nothing else to do. It is the ultimate relaxing vacation, no agenda, no time table, no hassles. I sleep and wake up whenever I want to, eat whenever and whatever I want to, sometimes one meal a day, sometime three meals a day. If I want to drink and / or get pussy, I can. If I don't feel like it, I don't. During the day, I relax, catch up on my reading, surf the web, cleanup the junk-data in my laptop, walk in the mall, or just do nothing in my room.
The most important thing is IT'S VERY CHEAP. For the same price there are very few places that can compete with AC. Finally, AC is English-friendly. I suppose I can get all of the above in Mexico, Dominican Republic or some other place in Latin America but I don't speak Spanish.
If only AC is near a beach.How about say Thailand? Can you do the same in Pattaya or Phuket? How do they compare? Both are near a beach.
How about say Thailand? Can you do the same in Pattaya or Phuket? How do they compare? Both are near a beach.This is all heresy since I haven't been to Pattaya or Phuket but you don't want to swim at Pattaya or even really lie out at the beach there. And as far as Phuket, it is expensive. Not even counting mongering, the area is a Western tourist trap, someone told me they spent so much money there with their girlfriend they could have just gone to Hawaii. I'm not saying you will bring a girlfriend, my point is hotel, food, drinks, sightseeing is expensive in Phuket from what I have heard.
Chris Long
12-22-12, 20:45
I will be making my first trip to AC in Jan. And I will need to exchange my money at the airport (Manila) to pay for the ride and the hotel. Where in the airport (Manila) can I get a good exchange rate.
Thanks
Chris
Mr Enternational
12-22-12, 21:12
I will be making my first trip to AC in Jan. And I will need to exchange my money at the airport (Manila) to pay for the ride and the hotel. Where in the airport (Manila) can I get a good exchange rate.
Thanks
ChrisAfter you pick up your bag walk straight ahead to the windows of the places to exchange money. I have never seen a bad rate. They give some of the best rates in the world; especially for it being an airport.
Just ask anybody that works there. Depends on what time you get in. Many changers are closed if you get in late like I do. Make sure to ask for a receipt and count your money. You should be just fine at NAIA.
I never thought of it this way before. Good point! X.
Take a look at Pattaya in it's present ugly manifestation. Packed to the gills in high season with hordes of Russians, Chinese, Indian tourists etc etc.
Believe me AC's saving grace is that it's NOT near a beach.
A French Canadian tourist was mauled, robbed and shot by two riding tricycle men while walking with a female companion in a subdivision in Bgy. Balibago here last Wednesday.
The suspects immediately sped away, leaving behind the badly beaten victim whose gunshot wound was oozing with blood. The victim was taken to hospital where he died two hours later due to cardiac arrest triggered by the injuries he suffered.
A French Canadian tourist was mauled, robbed and shot by two riding tricycle men while walking with a female companion in a subdivision in Bgy. Balibago here last Wednesday.
The suspects immediately sped away, leaving behind the badly beaten victim whose gunshot wound was oozing with blood. The victim was taken to hospital where he died two hours later due to cardiac arrest triggered by the injuries he suffered.About a week ago a friend and I were threatened to part with quite a bit of cash by 2 scumbags on a tricycle too. If we had resisted or even just argued back when they shouted at us, we could have ended like the unfortunate Canadian tourists.
Our mistake was taking out the wallet whereupon one of the robbers just grabbed the wallet and took the cash. When we tried to take back the wallet he shouted at us. The other robber was busy blocking and distracting my friend. We counted ourselves lucky for just losing some cash instead of our lives or being seriously injured, as they also showed us their knives to scare us.
Totally random killing? I seriously doubt it. Hard to tell what any expat gets into.
Hi ISG members,
I am going to be traveling to the Angeles City in a couple of weeks, and want to know if anybody has had any luck with meeting some women from Date In Asia?
I appreciate the advice.
Cheers!
Surfer
Garry Smith
12-23-12, 16:49
Becarefull with the tricycle man when he approach you to offer college student for PHP500. They will take you to one place, offer drink coco cola and make a story about money changer / chicken fighting and the modes operandi is to encourage you to show your wallet and took your money. It happen to me and my friend Gher on our visit last Saturday. I think this tricycle man is same person or gang with the recent incident.
About a week ago a friend and I were threatened to part with quite a bit of cash by 2 scumbags on a tricycle too. If we had resisted or even just argued back when they shouted at us, we could have ended like the unfortunate Canadian tourists.
Our mistake was taking out the wallet whereupon one of the robbers just grabbed the wallet and took the cash. When we tried to take back the wallet he shouted at us. The other robber was busy blocking and distracting my friend. We counted ourselves lucky for just losing some cash instead of our lives or being seriously injured, as they also showed us their knives to scare us.Where did this happen?
Hi ISG members,
I am going to be traveling to the Angeles City in a couple of weeks, and want to know if anybody has had any luck with meeting some women from Date In Asia?
SurferHave you just landed today on ISG and coming from Mars? DIA has been widely discussed every second page.
How about say Thailand? Can you do the same in Pattaya or Phuket? How do they compare? Both are near a beach.I do agree, same thoughts. Can even add BKK to the equation, but there is no beach. Last time I spent 9 days there having a good time as I just "wasted" my time. No agenda, no real plan, just act by the hour and the mood.
BrainDrain
12-24-12, 00:35
About a week ago a friend and I were threatened to part with quite a bit of cash by 2 scumbags on a tricycle too.This sentence stood out to me. Why were you carrying 'quite a bit of cash' in the Philippines?
My personal operations are:
Withdraw two days cash at a time from an ATM. Store the majority of it in the hotel room safe. Also stow my passport, wallet, licences, I'd, tix etc in the safe. I keep a small amount of PHP stored separately.
When I go out, I'm just carrying PHP notes for drinks and bar fine. I just keep in my pockets, knowing which pocket has got what sized notes.
These guys rarely pick on random strangers. They see people flashing cash and home in.
As has been said so many times in this forum, keep a low profile and don't become a target.
Happy hunting guys. And Merry Christmas. May the New Year bring you many happy mongering experiences.
BD
Where did this happen?Along Fields Ave, near the Devera Hotel. We were enquiring at the window with a money changer and was offered better rates, college girls etc and was literally taken for a ride to a secluded place and was robbed.
Never get on their tricycles or get into their cars. You will end up robbed if you are lucky, and killed if you are not.
AC is like the old American wild wild west, where there is no law and order to speak of. We see no law enforcement officers, but lots of security guards carrying guns. It's almost like a death wish thing going to the snake den.
Is it worth the risk just for some cheaper sex which is not of any good quality anyway. Great big quantiy, but what quality to speak of?
This sentence stood out to me. Why were you carrying 'quite a bit of cash' in the Philippines?
My personal operations are:
Withdraw two days cash at a time from an ATM. Store the majority of it in the hotel room safe. Also stow my passport, wallet, licences, I'd, tix etc in the safe. I keep a small amount of PHP stored separately.
When I go out, I'm just carrying PHP notes for drinks and bar fine. I just keep in my pockets, knowing which pocket has got what sized notes.
These guys rarely pick on random strangers. They see people flashing cash and home in.
As has been said so many times in this forum, keep a low profile and don't become a target.
Happy hunting guys. And Merry Christmas. May the New Year bring you many happy mongering experiences.
BD"Quite a bit of cash" is not 'a lot of cash'. It was supposed to be for the day's usage. BF, drinks, food, tips, viagara, wirelss broadband recharge, etc would come to close to PHP10, 000. We needed to have enough cash to enjoy the scene. That's about how much we had and most of it was taken.
We didn't 'flash' the cash. We took out the dollars to change for pesos at the money changer's. So, oh yes, another thing. Don't change money from the street people, not even from those roadside money changers, go to the bank, at the airport, or within the hotel.
Pip Jaeger
12-24-12, 10:17
This sentence stood out to me. Why were you carrying 'quite a bit of cash' in the Philippines?
My personal operations are:
Withdraw two days cash at a time from an ATM. Store the majority of it in the hotel room safe. Also stow my passport, wallet, licences, I'd, tix etc in the safe. I keep a small amount of PHP stored separately.
When I go out, I'm just carrying PHP notes for drinks and bar fine.Good advice, but I also suggest carrying a legible photo copy of your passport. Although I was never asked by any authorities for identification while I was out and about it's a good idea to have it on you; and you may need it to exchange money at the banks. If you don't want to carry a wallet then just put the copy in a small plastic baggy to keep it dry.
Along Fields Ave, near the Devera Hotel. We were enquiring at the window with a money changer and was offered better rates, college girls etc and was literally taken for a ride to a secluded place and was robbed.You were on Fields (where you were safe) and you got into some guys trike to get a better exchange rate and a cheaper lady. You ended up getting neither. I think you're lucky you only lost your money. Your story is a good reminder for the 99% of mongers who already know not to go w / strangers on a trike ride w / a pocket full of money. If you are gullible you will have problems like this everywhere. What you did makes no sense but you did receive an important lesson. I'm glad you're ok and thanks for info.
Chris Long
12-25-12, 05:57
I will be in AC in about ten days and just started chatting on DIA yesterday. Many of them seem like normal girls looking for a relationship. Is it easy to score with them when you meet them. Its been decades since I've had anything but a P4P girl and don't have the faintest ideal on how to get into the pants of a regular girl. My usual approach is to exchange some pleasantry. Tell them how pretty they are ask where they are from, tell them where I am from and then ask how much for sex and what they will do. I suppose this wont work with a DIA girl.
Chris
Along Fields Ave, near the Devera Hotel. We were enquiring at the window with a money changer and was offered better rates, college girls etc and was literally taken for a ride to a secluded place and was robbed.
Never get on their tricycles or get into their cars. You will end up robbed if you are lucky, and killed if you are not.
AC is like the old American wild wild west, where there is no law and order to speak of. We see no law enforcement officers, but lots of security guards carrying guns. It's almost like a death wish thing going to the snake den.
Is it worth the risk just for some cheaper sex which is not of any good quality anyway. Great big quantiy, but what quality to speak of?So it didn't happen on Fields Avenue, as I suspected. You voluntarily got into a vehicle of someone who tricked you while standing on Fields and they then took you somewhere else to take care of business.
I don't want to say you deserved it, because no one really does, but there is a such thing as natural selection and thinning of the herd.
Common sense and keeping your wits about you are requirements of modern life, especially if you travel, whether that be to Harlem or Angeles City, or anywhere else.
In decades of traveling to dozens of countries, some MUCH worse than the Philippines, I have never once been in an incident like this. But then again, I would never get into a trike that called out to me (only take them when you specifically need one, with you choosing the trike) , ESPECIALLY in front of a money exchange, or with guys promising me "college girls" while standing on a street with 15, 000 girls 19-26 ready to be barfined. Where did you possibly think they could take you that would be "better"?
Never forget that you're walking around with 2-3 months wages for the average Filipino in your pockets, pissing it away like it means nothing. How do you really expect these people to relate to you?
Be careful.
I will be in AC in about ten days and just started chatting on DIA yesterday. Many of them seem like normal girls looking for a relationship. Is it easy to score with them when you meet them. Its been decades since I've had anything but a P4P girl and don't have the faintest ideal on how to get into the pants of a regular girl. My usual approach is to exchange some pleasantry. Tell them how pretty they are ask where they are from, tell them where I am from and then ask how much for sex and what they will do. I suppose this won't work with a DIA girl.
ChrisIf you haven't been with a woman for decades other than paying what makes you want to start now? Just stick to p4p.
Chris Long
12-25-12, 06:42
If you haven't been with a woman for decades other than paying what makes you want to start now? Just stick to p4p.Probably will have to, but I was wanting to give a DIA girl a shot hoping to get some Pussy for next to nothing if it isn't to difficult.
Chris
Pete Benetar
12-25-12, 06:53
Probably will have to, but I was wanting to give a DIA girl a shot hoping to get some Pussy for next to nothing if it isn't to difficult.
ChrisIf meandering Permimeter road and forking up 500 peso for a negotiated BBBJ cim is a King's ransom you can hang outside Lollibee's and offer a bowl of rice instead, LOL. Are you serious? If you want a "regular" girl, why would you consider AC? For the price, AC is one of the best P4P places in the world IMVHO.
Probably will have to, but I was wanting to give a DIA girl a shot hoping to get some Pussy for next to nothing if it isn't to difficult.Well "next to nothing" means it will cost you "something" and that something is often more than you will pay if you stick with P4P.
DIA girls living in AC are usually bar girls or housemaids and are connected in some way to the bar scene, so as a self-admitted naive punter without any "game" you are going to waste a heap of time.
I wish Philippines had mandatory visa, and include a IQ test.
After reading the last few pages, I know why so many foreigners get killed in AC.
Chris Long
12-25-12, 07:32
Well "next to nothing" means it will cost you "something" and that something is often more than you will pay if you stick with P4P.
DIA girls living in AC are usually bar girls or housemaids and are connected in some way to the bar scene, so as a self-admitted naive punter without any "game" you are going to waste a heap of time.Thanks you are right, will probably stick to the P4P girls easer and more direct.
Chris
We were enquiring at the window with a money changer and was offered better rates, college girls etc and was literally taken for a ride to a secluded place and was robbed.On all of my 60-70 trips to AC I have always used a money changer where I can go inside, so that nobody can see me with $100 notes or huge amounts of pesos in my hand. Never had a problem. And I don't care about a 5 or 10ps better rate in a open space and / or weird looking surrounding. Just not worth it.
Anyway, these days I have a peso current account in PI, so I can use the ATM's in a proper bank, no need money changers anymore.
So it didn't happen on Fields Avenue, as I suspected. You voluntarily got into a vehicle of someone who tricked you while standing on Fields and they then took you somewhere else to take care of business.
I don't want to say you deserved it, because no one really does, but there is a such thing as natural selection and thinning of the herd.
Common sense and keeping your wits about you are requirements of modern life, especially if you travel, whether that be to Harlem or Angeles City, or anywhere else.
In decades of traveling to dozens of countries, some MUCH worse than the Philippines, I have never once been in an incident like this. But then again, I would never get into a trike that called out to me (only take them when you specifically need one, with you choosing the trike) , ESPECIALLY in front of a money exchange, or with guys promising me "college girls" while standing on a street with 15, 000 girls 19-26 ready to be barfined. Where did you possibly think they could take you that would be "better"?
Never forget that you're walking around with 2-3 months wages for the average Filipino in your pockets, pissing it away like it means nothing. How do you really expect these people to relate to you?
Be careful.I also have literally "decades of travelling to dozens of Countires", and this was also the very 1st time such a thing has ever happened to me. So, OK, you are smart, but don't be too cocky, mate, it can happen to you when you least expect it.
My friend and I definitely didn't deserve it, and we were not stupid. It's just that these scam artists are getting smarter by the day. On hind thoughts, of course we shouldn't have gotten into their trike, but att hat moment, when we had 2 uncoordinated minds (ours) working against their coordinated minds and rehearsed routine, and when we heard them speaking a bit of our language, and said they worked at the hotel we were staying in, our trusts started to develop.
We definitely learnt our lessons, as we kept telling ourselves, and would be even more vigilant in future. Don't know about my friend, but my greatest lesson is to avaojd AC like the plague!
I wish Philippines had mandatory visa, and include a iq test reading the last few pages I know why so many foreigners get killed in ACSo you think you are so smart, with such a high IQ that you would pass with flying colours for such a test to get your visa to the Philipines, eh? Those professional thieves will get you once day, simply because your aloftness would show off and attract the wolves.
We thought we were seasoned travellers, we thought we were being extremely vigilant, and yet after decades of travelling we finally met our match, and were 'robbed'. You could one day get the same or similar experience anywhere anytime when you least expect it, but AC is to my experience more likely to be the place for any cocky traveller to fall for these con artists.
We just want to relate our experience so other members can be even more careful and learn from our mistake. We certainly didn't invite any insult to our intelligence from other members!
Probably will have to, but I was wanting to give a DIA girl a shot hoping to get some Pussy for next to nothing if it isn't to difficult.
ChrisOnce had a DIA girl stayed with me in AC. Although I asked her to come to Manila she wanted to see what AC was like. We stayed together for 4 days. While the sex was good she did not like the bars and commented about why so many girls worked there what she thought was a demeaning profession. I guess it is hard for her to fathom how poor girls have no choice. She was not free. I gave her some money + drinks + food + gifts probably cost me more than if I bar fined each night.
Like somebody said why take sand to the beach?
With DIA girls I had a better time in Manila, Cebu, Leyte etc.
On all of my 60-70 trips to AC I have always used a money changer where I can go inside, so that nobody can see me with $100 notes or huge amounts of pesos in my hand. Never had a problem. And I don't care about a 5 or 10ps better rate in a open space and / or weird looking surrounding. Just not worth it.
Anyway, these days I have a peso current account in PI, so I can use the ATM's in a proper bank, no need money changers anymore.Always change mine in the middle of the street on Fields Avenue at the barbershop next to Kokomos. 200-300 USD at a time. Never been bothered. Stay alert and man up and you'll be okay.
Don't really know what you mean about the ATMs. Have US and Hong Kong bank accounts, always able to pull pesos out of ATMs in the Philippines without a problem. Am I missing something?
Always change mine in the middle of the street on Fields Avenue at the barbershop next to Kokomos. 200-300 USD at a time. Never been bothered. Stay alert and man up and you'll be okay.
Don't really know what you mean about the ATMs. Have US and Hong Kong bank accounts, always able to pull pesos out of ATMs in the Philippines without a problem. Am I missing something?The rate and fees, it better to avoid them and just have a local account.
Streetlooker
12-26-12, 01:32
OK rule number one when traveling to the Philippines 1. NEVER EVER EVER NEVER talk too, deal with, or even acknowledge a MALE Filipino person. On the streets The only time I ever deal with a MALE in the PHILIPPINES is checking into the hotel (MAYBE). Getting a ride on a Jeepney (Never ever take a trike) or maybe a waiter at a restaurant. Other then that I avoid them like they are going to kill me.
when we heard them speaking a bit of our language, and said they worked at the hotel we were staying in, our trusts started to develop.!This "I work in your hotel" scam happens in many parts of the world, even in "civilised" Barcelona, in Spain.
BrainDrain
12-26-12, 04:02
I will be in AC in about ten days and just started chatting on DIA yesterday. Many of them seem like normal girls looking for a relationship. Is it easy to score with them when you meet them. Its been decades since I've had anything but a P4P girl and don't have the faintest ideal on how to get into the pants of a regular girl. My usual approach is to exchange some pleasantry. Tell them how pretty they are ask where they are from, tell them where I am from and then ask how much for sex and what they will do. I suppose this won't work with a DIA girl.
ChrisDIA is just part of the P4P mix. There are genuine girls on there looking for a foreign husband. Also plenty of girls whom want to meet foreigners when they are visiting and just make some PHP.
The girls I have met through dating sites I have always had sexual success with. While these girls have not outright asked for money, it is an expectation. Whether you phrase that money as taxi fare, study money whatever the girl is comfortable with.
One of my friends in Cebu has 700 male foreigner contacts. Pretty sure I'm not her only bf.
I usually meet at a mall near my hotel, buy them dinner or coffee or smoothie or something. Then I suggest I have some work to do in my room and / or going to watch a movie. They usually happy to join.
There are many wonderful and unique ladies in Ph. Treat them well and you will have a wonderful time.
AC Hotel
Orchid Inn is getting a bit run down. Had to have the tv replaced, and the toilet keeps running.
Galaxy, relatively new place that I reviewed many months ago. Love the mirror placement. Korean run which has it's positives and negatives. THe noise is a problem. The hotel is a concrete box with a pool in the center. The noise is amplifed.
America Hotel has a new facade. I wonder if they've made those front rooms any quieter? A gal in Emotion told me that one of their girls died in the hotel recently. The foreigner checked out early and they found the girl later, she said. This doesn't make sense to me as they usually inspect the room when you check out. Does anyone have any info about this? This hotel has a lot of bad luck. There is a ghost rumor (gal was murdered back in the USAF days) , once there was an organized lobby hold up, and now another apparent death.
FOOD.
I like Angel's bakery next to Pony Tails. I stopped in for breakfast and noticed a steady stream of expat types coming in for baked goods. So I bought some fruit cake and it was delicious. I had a nice meal in Swiss chalet. At the Tequila Cantina, there is a waitress that speaks excellent English with an American accent. She's interesting. Talk to here if you get a chance. She'll shake a marguarita for you. LOL.
DUH.
Guy in a bar overjoyed that some gal underestimated his age by five years. Duh, doesn't he realize that when they guess ages they subtract ten years to be on the safe side. Newbie.
TRANSPORTATION.
So far I've only taken the tricycle once. Damn, I hate those guys. In advance, I confirmed with my date that the price was 50. I paid 50 and they guy wanted 70. I walked away. Another trike driver comes up and they have a loud conversation. But that is as far as it went. I think they are trying to scare people into paying more, or just trying to provoke someone.
OK rule number one when traveling to the Philippines 1. NEVER EVER EVER NEVER talk too, deal with, or even acknowledge a MALE Filipino person. On the streets The only time I ever deal with a MALE in the PHILIPPINES is checking into the hotel (MAYBE). Getting a ride on a Jeepney (Never ever take a trike) or maybe a waiter at a restaurant. Other then that I avoid them like they are going to kill me.That's a pretty ridiculous, borderline colonialist mentality. If you're that afraid you'd probably be better off staying home.
I've taken trikes from fields to places miles away. No issues.
As is the case anywhere else, keep your wits about you and be a man and you should have few if any problems. Filipino guys are like any other guys. Yes there are scammers in AC. That's a result of the old military base and foreigners walking around with 3 months pay in their pants pocket. It still isn't so bad. Go walk around Bedstuy Brookyln, Southside Chicago or Charlestown Boston with 3 months wages sticking out of your pants and let me know how it works out.
America Hotel has a new facade. I wonder if they've made those front rooms any quieter? A gal in Emotion told me that one of their girls died in the hotel recently. The foreigner checked out early and they found the girl later, she said. This doesn't make sense to me as they usually inspect the room when you check out. Does anyone have any info about this? This hotel has a lot of bad luck. There is a ghost rumor (gal was murdered back in the USAF days) , once there was an organized lobby hold up, and now another apparent death.The story I've always heard is that a Korean guy barfined a girl, took her to the hotel, killed her, then forced her body into a large suitcase. He then put the suitcase under the bed (actually possible if it's anything like Lewis Grand, you could slide a motorcycle sideways under those damn things) and left. He had a do no disturb sign on the door. It wasn't until 3 days later when it was time for him to check out that the maids entered the room. That's when they discovered the bag and the body.
Have no ides if it's true, but that's what they tell me. This is why many girls won't go with Koreans or to the America.
Guy in a bar overjoyed that some gal underestimated his age by five years. Duh, doesn't he realize that when they guess ages they subtract ten years to be on the safe side. Newbie.I don't think they're all that sophisticated. These aren't Thai bargirls. A lot of them are fresh in from the provinces. And they're not so good at aging westerners. I've had them guess my age 12 years higher than it is, and 10 years lower than it is.
Have you just landed today on ISG and coming from Mars? DIA has been widely discussed every second page.I did a search and nothing came up. You don't have to be a dxxk about it.
One of my girls emailed me that Alaska is shutting down and moving to Subic on December 28. Can anyone verify this? I am going to miss it.
BTW, when one says Subic, where does one mean? The town? The beach? Is it worth visiting?
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
12-26-12, 06:21
The story I've always heard is that a Korean guy barfined a girl, took her to the hotel, killed her, then forced her body into a large suitcase. He then put the suitcase under the bed (actually possible if it's anything like Lewis Grand, you could slide a motorcycle sideways under those damn things) and left. He had a do no disturb sign on the door. It wasn't until 3 days later when it was time for him to check out that the maids entered the room. That's when they discovered the bag and the body.
Have no ides if it's true, but that's what they tell me. This is why many girls won't go with Koreans or to the America.I heard that same story from a girl I picked up at MBC in Manila back in March. I don't recall her mentioning a specific hotel or city for that mater, but same story nevertheless. She claimed Korean guys are crazy.
This "I work in your hotel" scam happens in many parts of the world, even in "civilised" Barcelona, in Spain.I had a guy overtake me waling down the street in Ermita. Well dressed, good English, 'Hey, I'm staying at your hotel. ' Had me going until he tried to hit me up for money for a birthday cake for his daughter. Uh, no thanks, pal. Good con man, no sale.
This "I work in your hotel" scam happens in many parts of the world, even in "civilised" Barcelona, in Spain.Unfortuntaely that was the 1st time it happened to us, and it worked on us. We have learnt this lesson, and will know what to do in future.
Since you say it 'happens in many parts of the world' it means this ruse is working pretty well and being adopted worldwide. So, please beware, bros!
One of my girls emailed me that Alaska is shutting down and moving to Subic on December 28. Can anyone verify this? I am going to miss it.
BTW, when one says Subic, where does one mean? The town? The beach? Is it worth visiting?
Thanks.I just checked with a good friend whom formerly worked for the owner of Alaska, and still is very close with him. She confirmed that he is moving Alaska to Subic, but she didn't know exactly when.
This is too bad as he really runs a good operation and the girls are always a lot of fun and very defendable. Never had a complaint there.
Unfortuntaely that was the 1st time it happened to us, and it worked on us. We have learnt this lesson, and will know what to do in future.
Since you say it 'happens in many parts of the world' it means this ruse is working pretty well and being adopted worldwide. So, please beware, bros!I think many scams for tourists go through the same format, eventually adapted to the country and habits.
I was walking down the Ramblas in Barcelona with a collegue and this mid-age ordinary guy approaches us saying hallo and "do you remember me, I am from the hotel". We didn't have a clue what he was on about and we didn't care much, but we both said "oh well, he recognised us". That means we were silly enough to believe what he told us. Still we wondered who he was in the hotel. We just ignored him so never knew what he was in about. But I saw him another time and another time in the same area, playing the same trick to approach others. So I then realised he was a scammer. As strangers often our guard is off.
Especially if the approach is friendful and helpful.
Streetlooker
12-26-12, 19:31
This "I work in your hotel" scam happens in many parts of the world, even in "civilised" Barcelona, in Spain.I always wondered WHY this scam works on people but I just conclude that its because that person is a stupid moron. IF your on the streets of any town world wide you never talk to strangers that approach you with some wild bazaar kind of solicitation. Come on now you can't be that stupid to actually go with them
Streetlooker
12-26-12, 19:41
That's a pretty ridiculous, borderline colonialist mentality. If you're that afraid you'd probably be better off staying home.
I've taken trikes from fields to places miles away. No issues.
As is the case anywhere else, keep your wits about you and be a man and you should have few if any problems. Filipino guys are like any other guys. Yes there are scammers in AC. That's a result of the old military base and foreigners walking around with 3 months pay in their pants pocket. It still isn't so bad. Go walk around Bedstuy Brookyln, Southside Chicago or Charlestown Boston with 3 months wages sticking out of your pants and let me know how it works out.KID its not ridiculous since I can get all the services I need for everything I can think of from FEMALE persons. I don; t deal with Males anywhere If I can help it. I will always talk to the girl never the Male
Hello guys,
I am new att this forum and I am thinking of going to AC in March. I hade som Q about AC and I am greatful for all the info you can give me. Is AC very similar to Pattaya are the prices higher or cheaper. How about the the fgirls are they just as friendly as in Pattaya. I have bin in Pattaya many times and hade a great time. But looking forward to a change of seanery.
Cunning Linguist
12-26-12, 21:05
I also have literally "decades of travelling to dozens of Countires", and this was also the very 1st time such a thing has ever happened to me. So, OK, you are smart, but don't be too cocky, mate, it can happen to you when you least expect it.
My friend and I definitely didn't deserve it, and we were not stupid. It's just that these scam artists are getting smarter by the day. On hind thoughts, of course we shouldn't have gotten into their trike, but att hat moment, when we had 2 uncoordinated minds (ours) working against their coordinated minds and rehearsed routine, and when we heard them speaking a bit of our language, and said they worked at the hotel we were staying in, our trusts started to develop.
We definitely learnt our lessons, as we kept telling ourselves, and would be even more vigilant in future. Don't know about my friend, but my greatest lesson is to avaojd AC like the plague!When I am in foreign lands of the Third World variety, I am extremely paranoid. When someone spontaneously walks over to me to start a conversation or calls out to me in English, no matter how friendly, I just never answer back in the language, especially if it is good English. Usually I answer in Haitian Creole or Catalan. If they can answer me back in either language, then I will trust them. So far, no takers.
The conversation usually goes:
Potential Scammer: Hello Sir, beautiful girls for you, very cheap (or whatever is on offer)
Me: Pàdon men mwen pa ka komprann anyen anyen. Eske ou pale kreyòl?
Potential Scammer: What? Do you speak English.
Me: Ze English, non. Ou pale kreyòl? Isit la mwen kompletman pèdi. Pàdon si mwen pa ka pale avew.
Potential Scammer: Sorry (and he goes away, with a smile)
Since communication is impossible, they don't lose face and I don't lose my face. Don't know an odd language? Maybe you can invent some kind of jibberish but the effect is the same. You get out of having to talk to them and they don't get mad if you blow them off because it is due to an impossibility of communication. Works for me, so far at least. Your mileage may vary.
Member #4698
12-26-12, 21:19
I can get all the services I need for everything I can think of from FEMALE persons. I don't deal with Males anywhere If I can help it.Yeah, there is no point in talking to a guy (a hustler) on the street. He has nothing I want. And never let yourself get talked into going somewhere you were not planning to go. Example: In Manila I get into a taxi. I tell the driver to take me to Airforce One. He suggests Area 51 and says it is a better place. I say, no thanks and that is that. If he insists (which has never happened) I would get out of the taxi. If I wanted to go to Area 51, I would have said so.
I used to fool around with street hustlers in my wild, crazy, younger days, but back then I was looking for weed or other illegal white substances. Actually, I was looking for trouble and I had my share of excitement and misadventures in Columbia and Bolivia. Sometimes it paid off, but most of the time it was bullshit. It depended on the country and the location. Looking back I think I was pretty lucky I never got busted or seriously ripped off. Once in a while I met local guys of substance in a high class bar or on vacation with their women in expensive resorts. These kind of dudes were worth knowing and on several occasons I was invited into their homes where I got a glimpse into how the 5% live. Man, they had beautiful girlfriends who had beautiful girlfriends and they had a ton of high quality weed. It just reinforced the fact that never in all my days did I ever meet anybody worth talking to on the street. Don't be afraid of being rude or offending anybody. Just keep walking and pay the street hustlers no mind. The street guys don't give a shit about that. It is a numbers game to them. It is amazing because sooner or later they catch a fish, just make sure that fish is not you or you will end up in the frying pan.
Mr Enternational
12-26-12, 22:52
The conversation usually goes:
Potential Scammer: Hello Sir, beautiful girls for you, very cheap (or whatever is on offer)
Me: Pàdon men mwen pa ka komprann anyen anyen. Eske ou pale kreyòl?
Potential Scammer: What? Do you speak English.
Me: Ze English, non. Ou pale kreyòl? Isit la mwen kompletman pèdi. Pàdon si mwen pa ka pale avew.
Potential Scammer: Sorry (and he goes away, with a smile) I'm a little different. I like to play along for a few minutes if I'm not in a rush.
Fast Eddie 48
12-26-12, 22:53
Just ask anybody that works there. Depends on what time you get in. Many changers are closed if you get in late like I do. Make sure to ask for a receipt and count your money. You should be just fine at NAIA.To Slippery
I arrive to Clark after midnight on a Seaair flight from Hong Kong back in OCT all money charger is closed, I just change 100 HKD to 700 peso from a security guy enough to get me to field
Some money charge is still open.
Fast Eddie 48
Pip Jaeger
12-27-12, 01:05
I'm a little different. I like to play along for a few minutes if I'm not in a rush.Under the right circumstances (I. E. Daylight and a lot of people around) , I like to do the same.
Also, just for fun, sometimes if I see them coming I'll start patting my pockets. When they get close enough, but before they can say anything, I'll say I've lost my wallet and ask them for a few dollars / pesos / etc.
Once in Germany, a panhandler actually fell for it and tried to give me a few Deutsche Marks (I didn't take it. But he knew he had been had and we both just laughed).
One of my girls emailed me that Alaska is shutting down and moving to Subic on December 28. Can anyone verify this? I am going to miss it.
BTW, when one says Subic, where does one mean? The town? The beach? Is it worth visiting?
Thanks.I've heard the same from a couple of girls. Latest one (about 2/3 days ago) said it will be a while yet. They have to finish out the lease.
Then again who knows. These girls aren't the most informed in the world.
As others here have said though. Alaska will be missed in A / C. I always have a good time and the girls know they have to show the customer a good time because he asks you when you come back if everything went ok.
Yeah, there is no point in talking to a guy (a hustler) on the street. He has nothing I want. And never let yourself get talked into going somewhere you were not planning to go.
Just keep walking and pay the street hustlers no mind. The street guys don't give a shit about that. It is a numbers game to them. It is amazing because sooner or later they catch a fish, just make sure that fish is not you or you will end up in the frying pan.Good advice. Have to just ignore them."Play with them" and they will stick to you like glue. Once we went into a bar for an hour just to escape the pestering. But when we came out, he was right at the door waiting for us, and contiued to pester us, simply because one of us asked "how much?".
I always wondered WHY this scam works on people but I just conclude that its because that person is a stupid moron. IF your on the streets of any town world wide you never talk to strangers that approach you with some wild bazaar kind of solicitation. Come on now you can't be that stupid to actually go with themYou must be young and inexperienced. When you go through a few more laps in life you will find that these scammers can appear to be so friendly that you get caught off guard. Then you will be the "stupid moron" which you have just labelled yourself as.
Anytime any where, when you least expect it, someone comes up to you, and the next thing. You are a tupid moron!
Hello guys,
I am new att this forum and I am thinking of going to AC in March. I hade som Q about AC and I am greatful for all the info you can give me. Is AC very similar to Pattaya are the prices higher or cheaper. How about the the fgirls are they just as friendly as in Pattaya. I have bin in Pattaya many times and hade a great time. But looking forward to a change of seanery.Before someone else tells you to read the fucking forum, AC is around the same in price now. $17 short time, $30-50 long time. No nudity in the bars, no blowjob bars. A much smaller concentration of bars, and less girls, but there are still more bars and girls than you could fuck in a lifetime. AC is much more grimy and polluted, with many more beggars and scam artists. In general AC girls are a bit more friendly and will act more like a girlfriend than the down to business sisters in Thailand. There are always exceptions, I've had plenty of GFE in Thailand (even some who stayed an extra day or two for free) and a few cold fish in the Philippines. I'm just speaking in generals.
When I am in foreign lands of the Third World variety, I am extremely paranoid. When someone spontaneously walks over to me to start a conversation or calls out to me in English, no matter how friendly, I just never answer back in the language, especially if it is good English. Usually I answer in Haitian Creole or Catalan. If they can answer me back in either language, then I will trust them. So far, no takers.
The conversation usually goes:
Potential Scammer: Hello Sir, beautiful girls for you, very cheap (or whatever is on offer)
Me: Pàdon men mwen pa ka komprann anyen anyen. Eske ou pale kreyòl?
Potential Scammer: What? Do you speak English.
Me: Ze English, non. Ou pale kreyòl? Isit la mwen kompletman pèdi. Pàdon si mwen pa ka pale avew.
Potential Scammer: Sorry (and he goes away, with a smile)
Since communication is impossible, they don't lose face and I don't lose my face. Don't know an odd language? Maybe you can invent some kind of jibberish but the effect is the same. You get out of having to talk to them and they don't get mad if you blow them off because it is due to an impossibility of communication. Works for me, so far at least. Your mileage may vary.You can miss out on a lot of fun that way. I've made a lot of very good friends and scored with a lot of local girls after being chatted up in a park, cafe or standing in line for something. This often comes from college students, but not always. I once had a very wild weekend with a woman in Bangkok who chatted me in English on the train platform. I thought she was some kind of Thai scammer at first. My spider sense was way off. She was a Japanese woman just moved to Thailand for work and wanted to work on her English! Weird that I didn't identify her correctly since I worked in Japan and can speak a bit of the language. But she was very brown. She started by asking if I knew some restaurant. One thing led to another and we were fucking 3 times a day bareback, no holes barred, for the rest of the weekend. Never saw her again.
I think the key is not to be xenophobic but to keep a sharp eye out for scammers as opposed to regular people who are interested in meeting foreigners. It also depends where you are.
BrasilSoccer0
12-27-12, 06:45
Rick,
Clear up your pm inbox it's full. I can't respond to your pm.
BS.
Arrived in AC about six days ago. Just a few thoughts. Been going here since 1999. When I first got here, BFs were 900 on Field's, and 500 on the perim. Around somewhere 2002 or 2004 as I recall, they reached 1000p on Fields. People were pissed about it too. Was either Stingers or Vegas with that "tradition" of charging a couple of hundred more. Of course back then, everything associated with AC-Mo / Kokomos was of higher price.
I look around and see these EWR prices, and it shocking. Not that I a cheap charlie. OK, I lied. Am a cheap charlie. Got sick of the bars back in 2005, and see then as a hindrance to getting the lady. If I want to drink, I do it at home. No reason to get the watered down thing at sky-high AC bar prices. Back then countless hotels at 650 pesos. Now I see ABC charging in USDs. WTF. Gee, I wonder why AC is getting so darn expensive. Thanks guys!
OK. 'Nough be*tchin. Been a couple years since here, so starting "fwesh". Looking at the bars w / an extremely critical eye.
Few notes. Spent a bit RTFF the past 1000 posts (about 600 pages) and got what I consider updates. That said, now being Christmas, things are bit strange here. Gals gone for holidays. Get that. So, things not entirely normal.
Ques: People are raving Cuba Cuba. Ate there yesterday. Was OK. Not bad. Certainly not a huge hit for me. No FLs. One question: Y?
Ques: Read about Diamond Subdiv. Where and what is it?
Report:
As soon arrived did Raymond / Santos St. Still like that place most.
Insomnia. Talk was gals there have big tits. Being a hooter fan, needed to see them large mounds for myself. Yea, hooters were OK, but jollibee stomachs bigger. EWR at 1895 p. They had gals in leather black who were real lookers, but at 3000, you Fluggin Kidin' Me?
Grabbed BG gal while walking to / from work. This is the way to do it. Note: In AC I avoid Freelancers who work the street. However, you can sense the difference between gal BG going to / from work vs freelancers. Talk to them. If they appear hesident to talk, prob a bar gal. Now say the following: "Which bar do you work in." Can arrange sneakout w / out buying her a drink. Got two gals this way.
Treasure Island. They moved and now end of Santos. As soon as there, waitress on my like fly to shit (probably not a good analogy) asking me to purchase LDs for four gals. That said, nice place. One gal got number for sneakout, but she never replied. BF there is 1500.
Ponytails. There last night. I always liked that place in past. Good atmosphere. OK popcorn. However, not one gal on stage had any hooters. Hell, my tits were bigger than theirs. Too bad.
Friend of mine told me of that FL place, High Society. Went there with a gal. Think it doable. Before I grabbed many gals at Sky Trax. Place has changed. Uncertain now if can get FLs there now. Will check.
DIA: Never before had luck with it. That said, have two on the hook now. Will meetup later.
Will prob post picts next time.
--Popper
No reason to get the watered down thing at sky-high AC bar prices. Back then countless hotels at 650 pesos. Now I see ABC charging in USDs. WTF. Gee, I wonder why AC is getting so darn expensive.If it's too expensive, maybe you should try Delatia in Bangladesh instead.
If it's too expensive, maybe you should try Delatia in Bangladesh instead.Two cheapies that have been recommended to me are
Varsini and Sindalin. I know nothing about them except the names and that they are cheap. I'm booked in at the PB.
I looked for references to them but found nothing. Anyone heard of them? Close to Fields apparently. Under $30 / night.
FruitNinja
12-27-12, 15:09
Under the right circumstances (I. E. Daylight and a lot of people around) , I like to do the same. Once in Germany, a panhandler actually fell for it and tried to give me a few Deutsche Marks (I didn't take it. But he knew he had been had and we both just laughed).PJ,
That's hilarious. In the Czech Republic they play a game of "Look I found a wallet!" I've never let them play it out but I'm sure it's some way to part you of your money. My standard answer was."Great! I just saw a policeman a few yards back. Lets go turn it in." If you've traveled you've seen it all. Anyone approaching you is looking to part you of your hard earned money. Be smart.
I've been all over the world and in many places I shouldn't have been. In my crazy days I woke one morning after a major drunk in the parking lot of a local housing project. All I remember was picking up two black chicks.
I did have one scam best me in the Czech republic. Totally my fault. I was lost, little outside the tourist track. It was two of them, one of me. As I handed over my money all I could think was I should know better than this. $200 lesson. Stay alert.
Simon
Rick,
Clear up your pm inbox it's full. I can't respond to your pm.
BS.Sorry about that. Cleared out now.
To Slippery
I arrive to Clark after midnight on a Seaair flight from Hong Kong back in OCT all money charger is closed, I just change 100 HKD to 700 peso from a security guy enough to get me to field
Some money charge is still open.
Fast Eddie 48The OP specifically inquired about NAIA and not Clark. I would not have responded to a question about Clark as I have never been there.
Mr Enternational
12-27-12, 18:29
Friend of mine told me of that FL place, High Society. Went there with a gal. Think it doable. Before I grabbed many gals at Sky Trax. Place has changed. Uncertain now if can get FLs there now. Will check.Last time I was in Sky Trax it was kind of iffy. There really did not seem to be any FL in the place. I mostly saw Korean guys drinking with girls they had picked up and a couple of bakla. Where is High Society located?
Streetlooker
12-27-12, 19:08
You must be young and inexperienced. When you go through a few more laps in life you will find that these scammers can appear to be so friendly that you get caught off guard. Then you will be the "stupid moron" which you have just labelled yourself as.
Anytime any where, when you least expect it, someone comes up to you, and the next thing. You are a tupid moron!You are about has wrong has anyone ever could be. You see IF a Male person comes up to me on the streets of any city I am in anywhere in the world. It takes me about. 00001 second to label them a person I want to avoid at all cost. The fact that I am old and experienced has made me this way. I ask anyone WHY the HELL would you stop for a complete stranger no matter how friendly and stand there a listen to anything they have to say. Seriously IF a Male stranger walks up to you and say Hey Joe I got some nice girls for you are you really going to go with them REALLY.
OralFanatic
12-27-12, 19:35
Always amazes me that guys say there is nothing else but drinking and fucking to do in AC. Its not a beach town but there is a pretty good one 1 hr down the road in Subic bay if that's your sort of thing. You can play golf, tennis, swim in the pool, work out. Play basketball, go to a zoo, go to a casino, play poker, arrange sky diving, arrange airplane rides or helicopter trips hike a volcano ride go carts, catch a movie at the mall, HUMMM come to think of it I can't think of anything you CAN NOT do in AC. OH and don; t forget you can drink and fuck which is about all a guy needs or would do in any other city in the world If given a choice of entertainment. OK name something you want to do but can; t in AC or within a hr away.All that sounds good but I specifically go to AC to drink and fuck. I'm white and can't jump so basketball is out, but I'm pretty sure everything else you mention is available in AC except the ocean. As far as a beach goes, I lived outside of Olongapo (Baloy Beach) for 1 ½ years and I will never swim in that water again. If you travel around the area a bit, you'll see raw sewage being dumped into the ocean. I haven't been in Olongapo for a long time, but there used to be a bridge for foot traffic that went into the old US Naval base. The stream it crossed over was called 'Shit Creek' or 'Shit River' depending on who you talked to and there were turds floating in the water on their way out to sea. People used to throw change in the water and watch the local kids dive through the turds to get the coins.
I wouldn't swim anywhere near a major town in the PI. The last time I did, I was on antibiotics for a month or so to get rid of the bacterial infection I developed on my skin.
OralFanatic
12-27-12, 20:23
You are about has wrong has anyone ever could be. You see IF a Male person comes up to me on the streets of any city I am in anywhere in the world. It takes me about. 00001 second to label them a person I want to avoid at all cost. The fact that I am old and experienced has made me this way. I ask anyone WHY the HELL would you stop for a complete stranger no matter how friendly and stand there a listen to anything they have to say. Seriously IF a Male stranger walks up to you and say Hey Joe I got some nice girls for you are you really going to go with them REALLY.I have to agree with Streetlooker 100% on this; there is no reason whatsoever to listen to any male stranger saying he can get girls cheaper (or for any other reason) when you are in the middle of Pussy Paradise. I doubt I would fall for something like that if I were in the middle of the Vatican City. And a 'stranger being so friendly' would have immediately raised suspicion with me.
That being said, I have been a 'tupid moron' as Gher2 so eloquently stated, when I was held up at gunpoint by an SW in New Orleans. I had dated her once before so it was quite shocking. I also had an SW attempt to rob me at knife point but I have no respect for knives and she left empty handed, literally, since I took the knife from her. I did feel 'tupid' but I'm not sure those incidents qualify as scams.
Dark Vader
12-27-12, 20:24
Where is High Society located?It's near the MacArthur Highway end of Fields, next door to Blue Nile and it's owned by the same guy who owns Lewis Grand.
https://www.facebook.com/HighSocietyAngelesCity
Chris Long
12-27-12, 21:17
Thanks to everyone for the helpful information. I am sure my first trip to AC will be a big success, do to the help I have received here and from Funman13. I will try to write up a detailed report when I return, that hopefully will be a benefit to others.
Would it be better for me to bring all of the money I plan to spend with me or just take it out from ATMs as I need it? I am budgeting 3000 for one week for hotel pussy and food. I believe this will be more than adequate?
Chris
Pip Jaeger
12-28-12, 01:40
Would it be better for me to bring all of the money I plan to spend with me or just take it out from ATMs as I need it? I am budgeting 3000 for one week for hotel pussy and food. I believe this will be more than adequate? ChrisChris I sure hope you meant 3k USD, GBP or EURO's and not PHP. LOL.
Personally I'd take about 1, 000 to 1, 200 USD cash and keep that aside until I needed it; and then use ATM's for my daily needs. There's an ATM in the Wild Orchid and ABC has two, one out front to the right of the entrance and one inside the lobby across from the front desk. These are safer to use then the ones on the street. Not sure about the Wild Orchid one. Is was off line when I went to use it, but most ATM's there have a 10K PHP daily withdrawal limit. And you may want to call your bank card's security department and tell them that you will be using the card in the Phils or they may block it after the first use / attempt.
Enjoy your trip and good hunting, PJ
I buy viagra and cialis from my distributor in AC. Made in India. Price is 100 pesos for a box of 4. I buy 30 to 100 boxes at a time, and give it away to my mates in Australia when I am home.
You may buy viagra or cialis in the US for $60 per box, but I bet it is made in the same factory in India.
Happy mongering,
GAt 25 pesos each that's one helluva price.
At Mercury Drug the local viagra, brand name Andros, is approx 2000 pesos for a box of 5 100mg tablets. The 50mg box of 5 runs approx 1500 pesos. I went to the Generics Pharmacy and it sells a box of 5 50mg tablets for approx 350 pesos. It's sildenafil, brand name is Tigerfil, and is made my Sandoz. At that price it's competitive with the street sellers and I have better assurance it isn't pale-blue colored flour and glue.
Sandoz. Sandoz you brough me love. Eric Burdon. In any event, what I buy there or the cheap stuff here over the internet is about half as powerful as I buy here in USA. Buy 100 mg and cut it in half doesn't work well for me. But 100 mg in USA and its efficacy is validated. Never took a full 100 mg off the street there and probably never will.
Mr Enternational
12-28-12, 03:25
Seriously IF a Male stranger walks up to you and say Hey Joe I got some nice girls for you are you really going to go with them REALLY.I've done it many times before. No problem yet. Bangkok, Bali, Tijuana. The list goes on. It's always somewhere that is walking distance though.
Mr Enternational
12-28-12, 04:24
Would it be better for me to bring all of the money I plan to spend with me or just take it out from ATMs as I need it? I am budgeting 3000 for one week for hotel pussy and food. I believe this will be more than adequate?I've never used an ATM in PI. The exchange rate (they don't rip you off by giving you an extremely lower rate in addition to charging you fees as the airport changers in the USA) is so good there that I only bring cash to change.
$3000 for one week? I have a feeling you will be returning home with more than $2000 of that. To give you an idea, I will be in the country for 8 days in 3 cities. My total hotel cost is $241 (City State in Manila, Harold's in Dumaguete, PB in AC). My air fare from Manila Dumaguete round trip plus Clark back to Bangkok is $223 (including the overage I pre-paid for my scuba gear). More than likely I will be taking the bus from Manila to AC which will be about $3. 50. Or if I was to take a taxi it would be $60. $15 / day to eat and just say $50 / day for P4P with drinking included would total $984 if I do the bus in lieu of the taxi.
I've never used an ATM in PI. The exchange rate (they don't rip you off by giving you an extremely lower rate in addition to charging you fees as the airport changers in the USA) is so good there that I only bring cash to change.
$3000 for one week? I have a feeling you will be returning home with more than $2000 of that. To give you an idea, I will be in the country for 8 days in 3 cities. My total hotel cost is $241 (City State in Manila, Harold's in Dumaguete, PB in AC). My air fare from Manila Dumaguete round trip plus Clark back to Bangkok is $223 (including the overage I pre-paid for my scuba gear). More than likely I will be taking the bus from Manila to AC which will be about $3. 50. Or if I was to take a taxi it would be $60. $15 / day to eat and just say $50 / day for P4P with drinking included would total $984 if I do the bus in lieu of the taxi.You might be up for the Ultimate Cheap Charlie award bro.
What hotels are you staying in AC for that rate? Dumps? Anything decent is pretty costly. I made it in Kokomos $30 a night rooms for about 35 seconds before the misqutos, stinky water, dirty sheets and noise hit me. Then it was up the road to Lewis Grand for a little over $100 a night. Have a drink or two, buy a lady drink to feel a girl out, take one decent girl out of a go go (2000 pesos) and there goes another 75 bucks by the time you factor in a stop for some food and a tuk tuk back to the hotel. Have a ST during the day for another 17 dollars, breakfast and lunch and you're easily up to 200 a day all in.
I don't mind saving money. I hate overpaying. So if I'm missing something (besides taking a bus in the Philippines, sorry but could never do that even if it was free) please let me know.
Mr Enternational
12-28-12, 07:04
You might be up for the Ultimate Cheap Charlie award bro.
What hotels are you staying in AC for that rate? Dumps? Anything decent is pretty costly. I made it in Kokomos $30 a night rooms for about 35 seconds before the misqutos, stinky water, dirty sheets and noise hit me. Then it was up the road to Lewis Grand for a little over $100 a night. Have a drink or two, buy a lady drink to feel a girl out, take one decent girl out of a go go (2000 pesos) and there goes another 75 bucks by the time you factor in a stop for some food and a tuk tuk back to the hotel. Have a ST during the day for another 17 dollars, breakfast and lunch and you're easily up to 200 a day all in.
I don't mind saving money. I hate overpaying. So if I'm missing something (besides taking a bus in the Philippines, sorry but could never do that even if it was free) please let me know.Hi Thank you for your email and for inquiring about reservations at the Pacific Breeze Hotel. We are pleased to confirm your booking for one (1) deluxe room at $48 / night.
Have a wonderful day and thank you for choosing the Pacific Breeze Hotel.
Annie
Pacific Breeze / Central Park Hotels - Philippines
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, Balibago, Angeles City 2009
Dear Sir:
Happy Holidays!
We are pleased to confirm your room reservation. Details are as follow:
Type & No. of Room: 1 Standard Room (1 double-size bed)
Room Rate: Php1,750net/room/night (inclusive of continental breakfast for
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Then the place I am staying in Dumaguete is only 800P/day.
I'm not usually awake early enough for breakfast when I am in AC. Nothing wrong with the bus in PI. Just like a bus anywhere else. I have taken them in Peru, Dominican Republic, Cambodia, Thailand, etc. I figure it is just like Greyhound in the USA. I don't know if Greyhound has a tv and plays movies though because I have never been on them. But the city to city buses that I have been on in other countries do.
You might be up for the Ultimate Cheap Charlie award bro.
What hotels are you staying in AC for that rate? Dumps? Anything decent is pretty costly. I made it in Kokomos $30 a night rooms for about 35 seconds before the misqutos, stinky water, dirty sheets and noise hit me. Then it was up the road to Lewis Grand for a little over $100 a night. Have a drink or two, buy a lady drink to feel a girl out, take one decent girl out of a go go (2000 pesos) and there goes another 75 bucks by the time you factor in a stop for some food and a tuk tuk back to the hotel. Have a ST during the day for another 17 dollars, breakfast and lunch and you're easily up to 200 a day all in.
I don't mind saving money. I hate overpaying. So if I'm missing something (besides taking a bus in the Philippines, sorry but could never do that even if it was free) please let me know.Even 200$ a day adds only up to less than half of what Chris plans to spend. He can only spend 3000$ in a week by hopelessly overpaying. Ridiculous.
Spending $3000 / week? Good grief. With a bit of work, I could do $3000 a month. Perhaps two months if careful, rent an apartment, and still have a great time. Personally trying to stay below $80 / day. Gee, no wonder Field's Ave prices are through the roof. Whereas before it was about getting girls, now it's sky-high BFs, and 300 peso LDs, with businesses fleecing us for more.
About a week of my trip is over, two more to go. Then off to Pattaya (which nowadays depending how you play it cheaper). Yesterday dinner did Marg Station. The Mongolian, really good food. Then, since I need keep my king cheep-charlie card, decided to head to High Society. It's near Blue Nile. On the way there, found three gals on Walking Street. They were also on their way to HS, but first to McDs. OK, I'll go along. Yes, they all work the same bar, and no I will not say which; does not matter anyway.
For the record, I cheap charlie when it comes to bars. Best word to describe bars: Emasculating. However, no prob spending cash direct on the gals. So, off to McDs we went, and I fronted them 300p for their burgers & fries and for myself a chocolate sundae. Believe me, these the gals appreciate this far more, than when farang suckers purchase that dopey 300p LD. We spoke of the usual life around Fields. Usual complaints of the Aussie a-hole owners who they did work for in past: yell at the gals, overcharge customers, and give gals smaller commission. About the Koreans who follow the rule of threes: Three inches, three minutes, and three thousand pesos. These gals do not like Koreans, and who knows why. Asked the gals about Diamond, and its still unclear to me. Perhaps next time will get them to take me there.
After the most delicious meal ever at McDs (sarcasm here) one agreed to go with me ST for 1000p and got a second's cell number for later. Much prefer meeting gals this way. Meet them on neutral grounds. We are equals. They like me, great. They don't, they can walk. Either way, fine. See them as people, not as objects.
This evening. 11:00pm. Grabbed a meal and then Schwarma. Off to High Society but before I got there caught a gal. REAL cute. Yes she now works bar, and yes she did work at Blue Nile, but now at working in another. After brief conversation it was 1000p and to my hotel. Nice gal. 23 years old. Flat beautiful stomach. Perfect, perfect butt. And I do mean stunning butt. Shy, and wanted the lights out. Not shaved, unfortunately. Great time overall.
Here are picts from an hour ago while she in the shower. Unfortunately, honey-ko could not figure out how to turn off the water in the shower (turn the knob to the right, darling.) Should have used flash. Oops.
--Popper
Even 200$ a day adds only up to less than half of what Chris plans to spend. He can only spend 3000$ in a week by hopelessly overpaying. Ridiculous.Relax. The poor guy only ever said he'd bring $3k with him and that he's sure 'it will be more than adequate'. He's right, it will be much more than adequate. End of. A few mighty sensitive on this board.
What's up characters! Thanks for the entertaining reading as I reacquaint myself with the boards here. My first trip to AC is Jan. 9-19th, so first off if anyone is around and up for a Happy hour somewhere, drop me a line. Thanks to those who gave those nuggets of useful information. Bars, hotels and just the general lowdown. I have sent out a few PMs too. No obligation, just enquiring. I'll do my best to add to the dialogue when I'm there. Based in Seoul, contacts welcomed, but I don't get out much (the one-finger shackle!)
All the best for 2013, people!
Ok guys, I am headed to AC for the first time next week. I usually go to Pattaya but I planned to split it 50/50 this time around. I usually don't go to gogo bars infact I have never barfined from an agogo bar on walking street in Pattaya. I usually just hang out on soi 6 during the day and do the deed on sight at the various bars on Soi 6 for a fraction of the price of the agogo bars on walking street. I like the freelancer scene much better in Pattaya I go club hoppin and eventually find a freelancer to take home for the night. From what I have read the bars are the main game in Angeles and some of you have mentioned Skytraxx for freelances. So it will be a change of pace hitting up the go go bars as the main event. Well since that is the state what is the state of the santos bars and other short time bars like matrix brawn? I figure I will be spending alot of time here during the day since they are the closes thing to Soi 6 in Pattaya.
Only my experience. Every time I go to Wild Orchid to use the ATM it is out or doesn't work. Even the banks have screwed up when I tried using their ATM's. Just take cash, put it in a safe and go to the money changers with what you need for a day or two. This is what works for me. Yes, the credit card people knew I was traveling and in the Phils. Maybe best to take cash and try the ATM card. Maybe it will work but at least you are covered,. and not using charge credit card.
Only my experience. Every time I go to Wild Orchid to use the ATM it is out or doesn't work. Even the banks have screwed up when I tried using their ATM's. Just take cash, put it in a safe and go to the money changers with what you need for a day or two. This is what works for me. Yes, the credit card people knew I was traveling and in the Phils. Maybe best to take cash and try the ATM card. Maybe it will work but at least you are covered,. and not using charge credit card.The ATM in the Pacific Breeze was fixed as of yesterday, plus there are plenty of ATMs in the SM mall, I'm told there's even one in the Swiss hotel. However, Phils is the only country I know where you get a much better rate bringing cash and exchanging it locally as a few have said already. I usually bring half of what I need in cash and rely on withdrawing the rest on card, because I'm not comfortable carrying a lot of cash around, even if it is only from airport to airport.
GoodEnough
12-29-12, 05:46
only my experience. every time i go to wild orchid to use the atm it is out or doesn't work. even the banks have screwed up when i tried using their atm's. just take cash, put it in a safe and go to the money changers with what you need for a day or two. this is what works for me. yes, the credit card people knew i was traveling and in the phils. maybe best to take cash and try the atm card. maybe it will work but at least you are covered,. and not using charge credit card.there are two atms at abc, and usually both work. i've never seen an instance when at least one of them wasn't working. plus, there are atms rep001tered all over town. i'm a big believer in plastic, so never carry much cash and have never had to.
Ok guys, I am headed to AC for the first time next week. I usually go to Pattaya but I planned to split it 50/50 this time around. I usually don't go to gogo bars infact I have never barfined from an agogo bar on walking street in Pattaya. I usually just hang out on soi 6 during the day and do the deed on sight at the various bars on Soi 6 for a fraction of the price of the agogo bars on walking street. I like the freelancer scene much better in Pattaya I go club hoppin and eventually find a freelancer to take home for the night. From what I have read the bars are the main game in Angeles and some of you have mentioned Skytraxx for freelances. So it will be a change of pace hitting up the go go bars as the main event. Well since that is the state what is the state of the santos bars and other short time bars like matrix brawn? I figure I will be spending alot of time here during the day since they are the closes thing to Soi 6 in Pattaya.Manage your expectations. I found Pattaya better in many ways in terms of more bars and being diverse. AC is much smaller with the "action" being isolated on one road about 600 Meters long.
BrasilSoccer0
12-29-12, 09:22
Poper1,
You said you paid each girl a 1000p. What was and wasn't on the menu? How many sessions per girl were you allowed? Time?
BS.
I guess everybody has there own way of doing it with cards or cash. I spent one afternoon a years or so ago running around to ATM's to get some extra cash and none of them worked. If you have an ATM that is reliable go for it. I just don't want to be count on getting money from one of them in the Phils and have the eat ATM eat my card. Thus no money and no card. Beside the extra charges might not be cost effective.
I don't see any problem carrying cash from the airport to the taxi I ordered from the hotel, into the hotel and up to the room to put it away in the safe. I surely don't wonder around with it in my pocket.
But each to his own style. So Chris Long will have to decide what is best way for him. Still I would be sure to have an adequate back up plan in case the original fails.
A happy and New Year to all and may you find what you want on new years eve.
Manage your expectations. I found Pattaya better in many ways in terms of more bars and being diverse. AC is much smaller with the "action" being isolated on one road about 600 Meters long.I'm not a big fan of AC but you missed some "roads." Get out a bit and there is something more than Fields.
BrasilSoccer0
12-30-12, 03:00
Ok, I been reading this back and forth between ATMers and Currency carriers.
Someone tell me how much more are you getting from exchanging carried cash? The current exchange rate is around 41. 08Php for 1. 00USD and my bank (USAA) only charges me 1% foreign transaction fee. No ATM fees from my bank.
Unless there is a fee from the Phillips side, I see no point in cash carrying!
BS.
Filipino Phil
12-30-12, 03:23
You might be up for the Ultimate Cheap Charlie award bro.
What hotels are you staying in AC for that rate? Dumps? Anything decent is pretty costly. I made it in Kokomos $30 a night rooms for about 35 seconds before the misqutos, stinky water, dirty sheets and noise hit me. Then it was up the road to Lewis Grand for a little over $100 a night. Have a drink or two, buy a lady drink to feel a girl out, take one decent girl out of a go go (2000 pesos) and there goes another 75 bucks by the time you factor in a stop for some food and a tuk tuk back to the hotel. Have a ST during the day for another 17 dollars, breakfast and lunch and you're easily up to 200 a day all in.
I don't mind saving money. I hate overpaying. So if I'm missing something (besides taking a bus in the Philippines, sorry but could never do that even if it was free) please let me know.200 for a day is a lot. I stayed at Tiger hotel and I can stay there for less than 30 a night. The place is pretty basic though and you don't have a pool. If you want a place with a pool you could stay at Galaxy Hotel and that is pretty close to where Kokomoz is.
I can manage with 150 a day. If you have contacts you can get a girl to come over for 1000 and stay a good while pretty easy. Many barfines of 1800 but on Perimeter you can have them for 1500 or less.
With hotels all depends what you are looking for. Lewis Grand is one of the top 4 hotels of AC. Kokomoz I wouldn't say is very good, even the food at their restaurant isn't really good. Boomerang is nice and it is about 50-60 a night, you could probably get a discount on a long time stay of a week or more.
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Only thing it is a little far out compared to where Kokomoz is but if your willing to stay at Lewis Grand you obviously don't care about location anyway. Lewis Grand is expensive and I honestly don't need all the things they offer me. I hate being out of walking distance of the bars as well. The best things about it is the pool and the restaurant. But if money isn't a big thing for you and you want a luxury hotel, I would recommend Wild Orchid and ABC over Lewis Grand. If you are going with a friend who is like minded, you can split a 2 bedroom in Fields pLaza. Although they don't have a pool, you can access ABC's Pool.
Filipino Phil
12-30-12, 03:51
Along Fields Ave, near the Devera Hotel. We were enquiring at the window with a money changer and was offered better rates, college girls etc and was literally taken for a ride to a secluded place and was robbed.
Never get on their tricycles or get into their cars. You will end up robbed if you are lucky, and killed if you are not.
AC is like the old American wild wild west, where there is no law and order to speak of. We see no law enforcement officers, but lots of security guards carrying guns. It's almost like a death wish thing going to the snake den.
Is it worth the risk just for some cheaper sex which is not of any good quality anyway. Great big quantiy, but what quality to speak of?I stay pretty close to where Devara hotel is and I have no problems. In regards to money exchange I always use the vendors on the main street, there are so many of them. There is one Inparticular that I use because I find it always has the best rate. You never need to ask where to exchange money. Matter of fact I find myself needing Filipino's very little when I am there. Money exchange is clear as day where you can exchange because there are like 100 different places. In regards to girls, I was told NEVER to go with anyone from the street. This idea of college girls. No thanks. There are bars on the main street and on perimeter with more than enough girls to choose from.
If you are staying at Devara you are close enough not to need tricycles really but if you do use a tricycle you should be looking for a number on the front, kind of like a taxi. The worst thing is that they overcharge you for a ride because you are a tourist, so I don't bother to use them but I never have a problem in a trike. But if you go around asking questions like "where can I exchange money? Or where can I find girls?" when you are surrounded by Exchange places, some of which even have guards that are armed with SHOTGUNS in the front. And then you are surrounded by bars, there is a bar open in AC at every and any given hour of the day. You are drawing a lot of attention to your in addition to telling them you are a complete newbie with little to no knowledge of the area.
I had one incident where I got taken in a similar fashion like you. I'll never allow it to happen again and indeed I was lucky to get away just losing 2000 or so pesos but if you stick to the very basics and avoid contact with Filipino men, you should be just fine. I'm sorry the quality is low to you but there is so many bars with so many girls that you should be able to satisfy your appetite.
WestCoast1
12-30-12, 05:11
Ok, I been reading this back and forth between ATMers and Currency carriers.
Someone tell me how much more are you getting from exchanging carried cash? The current exchange rate is around 41. 08Php for 1. 00USD and my bank (USAA) only charges me 1% foreign transaction fee. No ATM fees from my bank.
Unless there is a fee from the Phillips side, I see no point in cash carrying!
BS.The ATM in phils will charge you a few hundred pesos just for its use. Your bank will hit you with the 1% you mentioned. Most banks hit a $5 (about) out-of-network fee for any ATM usage (yours does not). So for most gents, withdrawing, say, $100USD will cost him $100 + $5 + p200 ($5) = $110.
Dark Vader
12-30-12, 06:43
Ok, I been reading this back and forth between ATMers and Currency carriers.
The ATM in phils will charge you a few hundred pesos just for its use. Your bank will hit you with the 1% you mentioned. Most banks hit a $5 (about) out-of-network fee for any ATM usage (yours does not). So for most gents, withdrawing, say, $100USD will cost him $100 + $5 + p200 ($5) = $110.If you use a "foreign" bank you can avoid the local ATM fees eg. Citibank on MacArthur or HSBC (in Manila or Cebu). Also if you shop around you may be able to find a bank in your home country that doesn't charge any foreign transaction charges.
It then comes down to exchange rate and typically the Mastercard / Visa wholesale rate will beat the local guy's rates hands down.
For me it's a no-brainer ATM cards every time (always take at least 2 or 3 so that I have a backup in case of problems) and a bit of cash in case I can't get to an ATM.
You might be up for the Ultimate Cheap Charlie award bro.
What hotels are you staying in AC for that rate? Dumps? Anything decent is pretty costly. I made it in Kokomos $30 a night rooms for about 35 seconds before the misqutos, stinky water, dirty sheets and noise hit me. Then it was up the road to Lewis Grand for a little over $100 a night. Have a drink or two, buy a lady drink to feel a girl out, take one decent girl out of a go go (2000 pesos) and there goes another 75 bucks by the time you factor in a stop for some food and a tuk tuk back to the hotel. Have a ST during the day for another 17 dollars, breakfast and lunch and you're easily up to 200 a day all in.
I don't mind saving money. I hate overpaying. So if I'm missing something (besides taking a bus in the Philippines, sorry but could never do that even if it was free) please let me know.Rick Rock, Your inbox is full, can't answer your PM.
Hmm. Deleted a few messages a couple of days ago when another guy said that, but doesn't seem to have done the trick. Just wiped out another 50. Try now.
For several years I always used ChinaBank in SM. They had the best deal, maximum withdrawal of 20, 000p with 150p ATM fee. However, the last time I was in AC in November, the max was only 10, 000p (US$243) with 200p ($4. 87) , same as other banks. Seems like all ATMs of Fili banks in AC now have the same limit and fee. What a rip-off!
Does anyone know a better ATM? What is the limit of the CitiBank ATM on MacArthur?
I read somewhere that there is an HSBC ATM at Clark Airport now. Can anyone verify? Going back to AC in February. Thanks.
If you use a "foreign" bank you can avoid the local ATM fees eg. Citibank on MacArthur or HSBC (in Manila or Cebu). Also if you shop around you may be able to find a bank in your home country that doesn't charge any foreign transaction charge.Schwab Debit Card has no foriegn international charges, works great.
FruitNinja
12-30-12, 16:54
If you use a "foreign" bank you can avoid the local ATM fees eg. Citibank on MacArthur or HSBC (in Manila or Cebu). Also if you shop around you may be able to find a bank in your home country that doesn't charge any foreign transaction charges.
It then comes down to exchange rate and typically the Mastercard / Visa wholesale rate will beat the local guy's rates hands down.
For me it's a no-brainer ATM cards every time (always take at least 2 or 3 so that I have a backup in case of problems) and a bit of cash in case I can't get to an ATM.When I get back I go see my banker and have him remove the transaction fees. He does it every time. But I have all my accounts, personal and business with them.
Manage your expectations. I found Pattaya better in many ways in terms of more bars and being diverse. AC is much smaller with the "action" being isolated on one road about 600 Meters long.Yeah from what I have read I kinda imagine a complete dump filled with gogo bars. I am still willing to try it out just for the same of something different. I will still be going to Pattaya, will try out Angeles since I have never been there.
When I get back I go see my banker and have him remove the transaction fees. He does it every time. But I have all my accounts, personal and business with them.So you do care about peanuts here and there? Very surprised. You should tip them some extra for delivering such a great service to let your cash travel thousands of miles for such a small fee. Others need to maintain a private banking relation to achieve this.
(Sorry guys you probably would need to read some of the Bangkok thread to understand my post).
FruitNinja
12-30-12, 19:31
So you do care about peanuts here and there? Very surprised. You should tip them some extra for delivering such a great service to let your cash travel thousands of miles for such a small fee. Others need to maintain a private banking relation to achieve this.
(Sorry guys you probably would need to read some of the Bangkok thread to understand my post).You would need to understand the banking industry in this country to realize why this would be a principle thing for me. I keep a considerable sum of money in this institution. My business accounts are also there so there is a huge float. I try to maximize the return on that float. It's business and I expect it from them. I also expect and get a yearly use of their sky box for one of the local sporting teams. Bank's in this country are scum. Not at the local level but corporate. When ATMs first hit the market they were not a cost center. Now they want to make money on a convenience. Fluck them. And at the end of the day we're talking $1000's of dollars not 5 or 10.
Advice an old Jewish mentor told me."It doesn't hurt to ask." I have no problem beating the fluck out of a multi-billion dollar corporation. The cute little girl trying to feed a family is another story.
Peace
You would need to understand the banking industry in this country to realize why this would be a principle thing for me. I keep a considerable sum of money in this institution. My business accounts are also there so there is a huge float. I try to maximize the return on that float. It's business and I expect it from them. I also expect and get a yearly use of their sky box for one of the local sporting teams. Bank's in this country are scum. Not at the local level but corporate. When ATMs first hit the market they were not a cost center. Now they want to make money on a convenience. Fluck them. And at the end of the day we're talking $1000's of dollars not 5 or 10.
Advice an old Jewish mentor told me."It doesn't hurt to ask." I have no problem beating the fluck out of a multi-billion dollar corporation. The cute little girl trying to feed a family is another story.
PeaceI see that you start to understand my way of thinking. You just haven't ported it yet to responsible travel yet. That you already talk about "this country" gives me hope. I see things in hours of salary in the respective country as opposed to how cheap it would be back home. And no, it is never about your so much recited "5$".
John Traveller
12-30-12, 20:48
Last nite I barfined a girl from Lollipop. In the bar she was entertaining and pleasant, but when we got to my bed most inactive and boring. I have never experienced anything like it in AC (or any other place for that matter). Anybody had any similar experience from Lollipop? (Thinking about it afterwards I think I have read some negative reports of this bar before, I should haver remembered!)
John Traveller
12-30-12, 21:18
On this trip to AC I wanted to to check out the bars on Perimeter that is furthest away from Fields, from the Hilltop Hotel to the Clarkton Hotel.
I start with Thi-Hi, a small bar without much interest. Then a few meters down the road passed the popular Hang-Out cafe, is Honeyko's. This larger bar had many customers when I was there, but not too much talent among the girls though, still an ok place. Then there is some distance to walk to Green Bottle, a place not interesting. Then some more walking to Silly Hat. This place is not bad, but few girls. Then still more walking before four bars in a row. Girl's Generation is the first, I liked this place somewhat, friendly girls, all dressed in red. After School is next door, a larger place with girls dressed in "school"-outfits. Some pretty looking ones too. Many customers. Next bar is Roadies, not too bad, but the least interesting of the four. Last of the four is Lost in Asia, the best in this part. Many pretty girls and popular too, with many customers. A few steps further is Mirrors, at the Clarkton Hotel. I liked this place in a way, it's large and with some very pretty girls, but for some reason few customers when I was there.
The best bars IMO are in this order: Lost in Asia, Mirrors, Girl's Generation. I visited these places between 4 and 6 pm. Easy to get there with a jeepney from the jeepney station at the end of Fields. But go early in the afternoon!
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 01:41
For several years I always used ChinaBank in SM. They had the best deal, maximum withdrawal of 20, 000p with 150p ATM fee. However, the last time I was in AC in November, the max was only 10, 000p (US$243) with 200p ($4. 87) , same as other banks. Seems like all ATMs of Fili banks in AC now have the same limit and fee. What a rip-off!
Does anyone know a better ATM? What is the limit of the CitiBank ATM on MacArthur?
I read somewhere that there is an HSBC ATM at Clark Airport now. Can anyone verify? Going back to AC in February. Thanks.The only bank in the Philippines that does not charge a 200php foreign card ATM transaction fee is HSBC. You will be charged a 200php fee at Citibank (unless you use a Citibank ATM card) and all the other local ATM's; BDO, BPI ect. Always maximize your ATM withdrawl to minimize the fees charged.
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 02:04
Ok, I been reading this back and forth between ATMers and Currency carriers.
Someone tell me how much more are you getting from exchanging carried cash? The current exchange rate is around 41. 08Php for 1. 00USD and my bank (USAA) only charges me 1% foreign transaction fee. No ATM fees from my bank.
Unless there is a fee from the Phillips side, I see no point in cash carrying!
BS.You see no point in carrying cash? That's because you have never visited the Philippines. A place where cash is king. The banking system is just catching up to western standards and ATM cards are only accepted with limited success. Several large grocery chains in the Philippines tried the debit card thing there for awhile and stopped accepting debit cards (ATM cards) because of the small processing fee they would have to surrender. Want to tip a BG? Want to take a taxi? Want to buy food or drinks from a sarix2 or smaller store? Want to get your clothes washed, or get a massage? Want to pay a semi-pro for ST you met at Starbucks? Want to pay for your departure tax at the airport? Most of those only accept cash. Bite the exchange bullet, and use cash.
Also as a monger do you really want your activities to be tracked? Pay for your tab at a bar in AC with plastic and somewhere in the future that carelessness will come back to bite you. You can explain the credit card charges for the hotel in AC by saying you always dreamed to see the philippine volcano, just don't say which one.
As always, it's 'up to you'.
You will be charged a 200php fee at Citibank (unless you use a Citibank ATM card) and all the other local ATM's; BDO, BPI ect. Always maximize your ATM withdrawl to minimize the fees charged.Are you sure about that 200php charge at Citibank?
I used my Mastercard (it was not citibank card) in Citibank ATM's January 2012 in phils and there was no charge. Would be nice to have that confirmed because I will be in phils soon again.
You see no point in carrying cash? That's because you have never visited the Philippines. A place where cash is king. The banking system is just catching up to western standards and ATM cards are only accepted with limited success. Several large grocery chains in the Philippines tried the debit card thing there for awhile and stopped accepting debit cards (ATM cards) because of the small processing fee they would have to surrender. Want to tip a BG? Want to take a taxi? Want to buy food or drinks from a sarix2 or smaller store? Want to get your clothes washed, or get a massage? Want to pay a semi-pro for ST you met at Starbucks? Want to pay for your departure tax at the airport? Most of those only accept cash. Bite the exchange bullet, and use cash.
Also as a monger do you really want your activities to be tracked? Pay for your tab at a bar in AC with plastic and somewhere in the future that carelessness will come back to bite you. You can explain the credit card charges for the hotel in AC by saying you always dreamed to see the philippine volcano, just don't say which one.
As always, it's 'up to you'.He obviously didn't mean carrying no cash at all. He quite clearly meant transporting cash from your home country vs using an ATM whilst you're here.
Dark Vader
12-31-12, 09:25
I used my Mastercard (it was not citibank card) in Citibank ATM's January 2012 in phils and there was no charge. Would be nice to have that confirmed because I will be in phils soon again.I used ia Mastercard in the Citibank ATM in Angeles in Nov / Dec 2012 and there was no ATM fee and no exchange rate loading
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 10:32
Are you sure about that 200php charge at Citibank?
I used my Mastercard (it was not citibank card) in Citibank ATM's January 2012 in phils and there was no charge. Would be nice to have that confirmed because I will be in phils soon again.*Sigh* Sure? LOL, why would I post it if it's not true? Sometimes you newbs crack me up. You all demand info and when someone provides you info, it's questioned. The ONLY ATM bank in the Philippines that does not charge a foreign ATM card transaction fee of 200php is HSBC. They are the last hold out, but that could change once HSBC hears about the money being made by other banks.
After you enter your PIN and input your request for withdrawl of cash, you will be advised that the bank will charge you a foreign ATM transaction fee of 200php in addition to any fees charged by your bank back home, and at that time you can either click 'accept' or 'decline'. If you click decline your transaction will be nul and void.
Citibank recently started charging the 200php fee. I would imagine if you use a US citibank ATM card at a philippine citibank ATM they will not charge the 200php fee, but I cannot confirm.
WestCoast1
12-31-12, 11:28
Are you sure about that 200php charge at Citibank?
I used my Mastercard (it was not citibank card) in Citibank ATM's January 2012 in phils and there was no charge. Would be nice to have that confirmed because I will be in phils soon again.Honestly, I can't remember the last time my ATM / Debit card was NOT hit with a p200 ATM fee, including Citi.
GoodEnough
12-31-12, 11:36
*Sigh* Sure? LOL, why would I post it if it's not true? Sometimes you newbs crack me up. You all demand info and when someone provides you info, it's questioned. The ONLY ATM bank in the Philippines that does not charge a foreign ATM card transaction fee of 200php is HSBC. They are the last hold out, but that could change once HSBC hears about the money being made by other banks.Sorry Stroker, but HSBC-at least the branch in Davao-charges Php200 and has for some time. I use it because it's the only bank I've found here that lets you take out Php20, 000 in a single transaction, but it does charge.
GE
Honestly, I can't remember the last time my ATM / Debit card was NOT hit with a p200 ATM fee, including Citi.Using a non-Citi foreign bank card I know I paid a p200 fee at Citibank in Makati. But what was more shocking was the dreadful exchange rate for the transaction, which was 34 to the US dollar in October when the rate was approx 42:1. Citi stated this was my bank's rate. My credit union stated it wasn't them. After a few goes at Citi, each time getting the same crappy rate, I switched to Metro, and found the exchange rate significantly improved. Using metrobank yesterday my exchange rate was 40. 3:1 There was the p200 fee, and my credit union has an international transaction fee of $2. 43 and an atm fee of $1. It remains unanswered why the exchange rates were so different. Perhaps different intermediary banks. Something to consider.
Speak to the manager of your bank at home. If you're a serious account holder who travels internationally with regularity they will usually agree to cover any ATM charges or other surcharges accumulated abroad. My bank charges nothing for international withdraw, no matter the country or network, and they cover the charges like the 200 php fee discussed here within 30 days. Remember banks work for you. They live off the interest made on your deposits.
Don't forget, in addition to charges, and in my case and personal research, I found I got 5% less with the exchange rate compared to cash notes changed with Money Changers. On more than one occasion I withdrew money from ATM, then headed for Money Changer straight away. Via ATM I was getting 5% less with the exchange rate.
The problem with cash, once you lose it, say stolen or lost, you have lost it forever. Not so with cards.
As one said, a mix of cards and cash is a good way to go. Whether cards or cash, try and do same inside the bank, not out on the street.
Wicked Roger
12-31-12, 15:15
Sorry Stroker, but HSBC-at least the branch in Davao-charges Php200 and has for some time. I use it because it's the only bank I've found here that lets you take out Php20, 000 in a single transaction, but it does charge.
GEGE.
My HSBC card lets me withdraw up to 40, 000 and does not charge me any fees. Maybe as it is an overseas card? Seems odd that a bank will charge a good client a fee to withdrw his / her money from his / her chosen bank but then banks like to screw all of us whenever they can.
Happy New Year!
WestCoast1
12-31-12, 16:06
Using a non-Citi foreign bank card I know I paid a p200 fee at Citibank in Makati. But what was more shocking was the dreadful exchange rate for the transaction, which was 34 to the US dollar in October when the rate was approx 42:1. Citi stated this was my bank's rate. My credit union stated it wasn't them. After a few goes at Citi, each time getting the same crappy rate, I switched to Metro, and found the exchange rate significantly improved. Using metrobank yesterday my exchange rate was 40. 3:1 There was the p200 fee, and my credit union has an international transaction fee of $2. 43 and an atm fee of $1. It remains unanswered why the exchange rates were so different. Perhaps different intermediary banks. Something to consider.Its your bank that is charging the differing exchange rate (not the ATM). My bank here in the States fessed up (Wells Fargo). The manager at my bank told me that their exchange rate changes daily, computer-controlled based on the actual daily exchange rate. He said, out loud to me, that I could subtract 10-20% on any transaction from the actual exchange rate. For example, when the actual rate is 41:1, the bank gives me about 35:1. I've noticed the exchange on every ATM withdrawal overseas, and every swipe of my ATM card (when used as a VISA CC) , I lose almost 20% (but never in the US). He said the percentage difference is different for specific countries.
I have long known this to be true also of my bank in exchanging actual dollars for pesos, and vice-versa. When I hand my bank $40USD (about 1600 pesos) and ask for pesos, they give me back about $34 in pesos (1375 pesos). They also charge a more-than-healthy "delivery" fee, as the pesos must be delivered from another city. When I return from phils and go back to my bank to exchange my leftover pesos for dollars, they do it again. I give the bank 1375 pesos, they should hand me back about $34USD. But they give me $28 (about 1200p).
WestCoast1
12-31-12, 16:13
Speak to the manager of your bank at home. If you're a serious account holder who travels internationally with regularity they will usually agree to cover any ATM charges or other surcharges accumulated abroad. My bank charges nothing for international withdraw, no matter the country or network, and they cover the charges like the 200 php fee discussed here within 30 days. Remember banks work for you. They live off the interest made on your deposits.I've spoken to branch managers at two of my larger US banks, Wells and BofA, where I have sizeable holdings. Both say they are unable to refund any transaction fees."When the government started clamping down on the various credit card fees we used to charge, corporate started charging other fees for many other services, including your debit card. Got to make money somehow." Obviously, making money by living off the interest on my deposits is not enough.
WestCoast1
12-31-12, 16:14
GE.
My HSBC card lets me withdraw up to 40, 000 and does not charge me any fees. Maybe as it is an overseas card? Seems odd that a bank will charge a good client a fee to withdrw his / her money from his / her chosen bank but then banks like to screw all of us whenever they can.
Happy New Year!You are not getting the p200 fee when you use the HSBC card at a non-HSBC ATM?
'sizeable' LOL. Other than a 1% foreign transaction fee (a wash given you get the commerical foreign exchange vs the 'tourist' rate) there are no fees with BoA premier account.
FruitNinja
12-31-12, 16:51
All my accounts were opened at the same branch. I make it a point to show my face often. Keep the personal in personal banking. (it's 5 blocks from my place) There are some fees that are non-refundable. As in there is no mechanism programmed at corporate level to allow for it or they are limited by regulation. I'm not sure about Wells and BoFA (like they really care about customer service) but my district manager has discretionary funds that he can spend as he sees fit. I also have a considerable line of credit that I have never used. The yearly fee is $50. I have never paid for this.
I'm pretty brutal when it comes to the banks. I see them as worthless. Customer service has gone to shit and all they care about is turning profits. And I'm with ya! These asses borrow money from the fed for 0% or the give us. 024% on our deposits. They went from "too big to fail" to "government guaranteed profits" All Dod Frank did was make it impossible for the average guy to get a mortgage.
FruitNinja
12-31-12, 16:52
Speak to the manager of your bank at home. If you're a serious account holder who travels internationally with regularity they will usually agree to cover any ATM charges or other surcharges accumulated abroad. My bank charges nothing for international withdraw, no matter the country or network, and they cover the charges like the 200 php fee discussed here within 30 days. Remember banks work for you. They live off the interest made on your deposits.I tghink the trick is you have to remind them that they wok for you. Too many people get hoodwinked by the herd mentality. Think for yourself is my motto.
Last nite I barfined a girl from Lollipop. In the bar she was entertaining and pleasant, but when we got to my bed most inactive and boring. I have never experienced anything like it in AC (or any other place for that matter). Anybody had any similar experience from Lollipop? (Thinking about it afterwards I think I have read some negative reports of this bar before, I should haver remembered!)I had a couple of pulls from there: one was Reya (27) and the other a 19 yr old whose name escapes me right now. Both were quite adequate for the needs at hand. The 19 yo had to go home by 2130 to take care of baby, we were talking around 1500. I naturally did not feel like getting LT for that amount of time. She told me "I will come back at 8am to your room" I was quite skeptical but figured I would roll the dice as an experiment. She did return. It worked out well as I was due for a good night sleep alone at that point.
Lollipops in general is fun and from what I have read most people are ok with it. It was my wingmans and mine hangout bar. This kind of stuff can happen to anyone in any bar I supposse. Thus the vets will underscore the value of the interview.
However, I am drawn to AC every year exactly because there is nothing else to do. It is the ultimate relaxing vacation, no agenda, no time table, no hassles. I sleep and wake up whenever I want to, eat whenever and whatever I want to, sometimes one meal a day, sometime three meals a day. If I want to drink and / or get pussy, I can. If I don't feel like it, I don't. During the day, I relax, catch up on my reading, surf the web, cleanup the junk-data in my laptop, walk in the mall, or just do nothing in my room.This sums it up very well. I do not understand why so many people hear engage, over and over, in the same arguments. It is all about chilling and doing what you feel like. Relax. I will buy you a beer and we can tell each other tall tales. See you next year!
As my work may take me there semi regularly: is it easy enough to just bring some $$, open a bank account there and then use a local ATM without getting hit with international fees and / or crappy exchange rates?
Surely many here, expats or otherwise, have done this.
TIA
Picts taken with my 2006 Sony-Ericsson camera. As bonus, here is pic of gal I had last night too. One thing interesting. It was her day off, and just found her last night on Field's, outside of the schwarma place. Offered her a schwarma, and then she came to my place for 1000 ST. Works at one of the Neon Bars end of Fields, and sometimes she a regular gal (EWR: 1900p) , and once or twice a week is a "spotlight" gal (EWR: 3000p).
Proves that packaging is everything. Just gave her 1000 for ST. Nice gal too.
Here a few New Years fireworks from Raymond, and Field's Ave. You wish you were here.
--Popper
Wicked Roger
12-31-12, 19:09
You are not getting the p200 fee when you use the HSBC card at a non-HSBC ATM?I don't use non HSBC ATMs WC but if I mis read the original FR then apologies
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 21:37
Sorry Stroker, but HSBC-at least the branch in Davao-charges Php200 and has for some time. I use it because it's the only bank I've found here that lets you take out Php20, 000 in a single transaction, but it does charge.
GEGE,
I do not have an account with HSBC, I just use HSBC'see ATM on occasion using a foreign ATM card. I am not charged the 200php foreign ATM card fee and I can withdraw up to 40000php at once. All in nice neat 1000php bills. The HSBC branch I use is located in Cebu near Ayala.
The fact you can withdraw up to 20000php max is a limit set by your bank whichever that may be.
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 21:39
GE.
My HSBC card lets me withdraw up to 40, 000 and does not charge me any fees. Maybe as it is an overseas card? Seems odd that a bank will charge a good client a fee to withdrw his / her money from his / her chosen bank but then banks like to screw all of us whenever they can.
Happy New Year!Yes this is the same experience I have using HSBC.
Happy New Year to you too!
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 22:08
As my work may take me there semi regularly: is it easy enough to just bring some $$, open a bank account there and then use a local ATM without getting hit with international fees and / or crappy exchange rates?
Surely many here, expats or otherwise, have done this.
TIAI have three local philippine banking accounts. To get the best possible forex rate I make arraignments and get my black market money changer to meet me at my bank. I withdraw money from my third currency account and exchange it for php on a day of my choosing when the rate is very favorable. Sometimes I will use the black market money changer offered by the bank manager if the rate is higher, often it's lower but once in awhile they will match the rate sometimes not. Very easy process to sit and chat with the bank manager while the counting machines are put to good use. The money stays in the bank, and is only being transferred from one account to the other and I never have the risk of walking around with bundles of cash. The money changer takes that risk and comes with armed guards. I never withdraw money and exchange it at the posted bank rate because it's often 3-6php lower depending on what day of the month, inflow OFW remittance balances and local pay cycles.
The details to opening an account are straight forward but instead of clogging up the AC section with more forex talk, ask on the living in Philippines section.
Pete Benetar
01-01-13, 02:22
Yes, of course they want to appear to have bigger tits.If I don't catch you before your sojourn on to AC, Hombre, have a very Happy Hunting New Year. BTW, school girl wifey just told me she wants to phuck YOU as a belated "Christmas" gift to me. WTF? I have not even told her yet I'm withholding Winter Term tuition for some wrong attitude she's been giving me recently, LOL. But I don't mind you nailing her; she's a dirty filthy hore, haha.
And a very Happy New Year to the rest of you pussy mongering preverts as well!
Pb
If I don't catch you before your sojourn on to AC, Hombre, have a very Happy Hunting New Year. BTW, school girl wifey just told me she wants to phuck YOU as a belated "Christmas" gift to me. WTF? I have not even told her yet I'm withholding Winter Term tuition for some wrong attitude she's been giving me recently, LOL. But I don't mind you nailing her; she's a dirty filthy hore, haha.
PbTell her thanks, I do appreciate the offer. But instead, how about her introducing me to her hot Ghana friends? Got to get there in 2013! First things first, though, meeting the boys in AC next week for a week in the happy hunting ground. Hot dang!
As my work may take me there semi regularly: is it easy enough to just bring some $$, open a bank account there and then use a local ATM without getting hit with international fees and / or crappy exchange rates?
Surely many here, expats or otherwise, have done this.
TIAYes, it's easy to open an account. I did so with my passport and another picture IDENTIFICATION (gads, that word can't be abbreviated? Something has run amok.) plus the address of my condo. I recall minimum dollar deposit is $200 for most banks, but you can check online. BPI, BDO, and MetroBank are three of the larger ones. You can then wire transfer a sizable dollar sum to the dollar account. BTW, minimum peso deposit for a peso account is p500. You might want to open one of those too, and if the exchange rate works in your favour withdraw dollars, exchange, and deposit for use later.
Ok guys, I am headed to AC for the first time next week. I usually go to Pattaya but I planned to split it 50/50 this time around. I usually don't go to gogo bars infact I have never barfined from an agogo bar on walking street in Pattaya. I usually just hang out on soi 6 during the day and do the deed on sight at the various bars on Soi 6 for a fraction of the price of the agogo bars on walking street. I like the freelancer scene much better in Pattaya I go club hoppin and eventually find a freelancer to take home for the night. From what I have read the bars are the main game in Angeles and some of you have mentioned Skytraxx for freelances. So it will be a change of pace hitting up the go go bars as the main event. Well since that is the state what is the state of the santos bars and other short time bars like matrix brawn? I figure I will be spending alot of time here during the day since they are the closes thing to Soi 6 in Pattaya.Pattya is the place for entertainment outside of your hotel room. But if you want to feel young, rich, and handsome with a big dick, Angles is the place. It's a bit like the wild west, but I find it safe. 95% of the girls are found in go go bars, but it's worth the extra $5 for a girl that won't rob you and is checked for STD's once a week.
1000's of girls from 1000 PHP in Perimeter Road bars to 3000 PHP for "Spot Light" girls in larger Fields Ave clubs. The waitress's are also fair game. Drinks range from 30 PHP (happy hour on Perimeter) to 300 PHP (premium Ladies drink on Fields). Trikes are the transportation for 50-75 PHP, and they are never hard to find.
I like Valentino's hotel around $65 / night. Block from action and very clean. If you don't mind 10 min walk, or 50 PHP trike ride, try the Mint hotel. Brand new and offering great rates on Best Western web site.
IDENTIFICATION (gads, that word can't be abbreviated?The abbreviation is I'd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AcpdEHenEg
The abbreviation is I'd.Ummmmm, I'd is an American contraction meaning "I would."
ID is the proper acronym. Why its in all caps is beyond me but that's how its done here.
Apparently the software here won't permit anything other than I'd
checked for STD's once a week.Checked but not necessarily prevented from working or even treated if positive. Had quite a few bargirls who met me during the day and brought along their friends who worked at the same bar. Later when comfortable together they told me they came up positive for all kinds of stuff, some were in the middle of herpes outbreaks, and yet they were all still working and barfining.
Ummmmm, I'd is an American contraction meaning "I would."
I'd is the proper acronym. Why its in all caps is beyond me but that's how its done here.The forum software sometimes takes the lead, or PC speller does that too.
Checked but not necessarily prevented from working or even treated if positive. Had quite a few bargirls who met me during the day and brought along their friends who worked at the same bar. Later when comfortable together they told me they came up positive for all kinds of stuff, some were in the middle of herpes outbreaks, and yet they were all still working and barfining.True. And what happens within the week? Anything could be contracted during the 1 week in between check-ups. And then there is the hibernating HIV that may not show for up to 5 years.
Having a condom on to do it is like taking a shower with clothes on. No fun and missing the point. BUT, doing it with these girls without a condom on is like playing Russian roulette, only that in this case it's more like with a gun loaded with 5 bullets out of the 6. Actually, their pussy smells like burnt rubber, which should say a lot about their personal lack of hygiene.
Been in AC now since Dec 22, and at present, my cell phone is pretty filled w / gals cell phone numbers. Just meet them on Field's. Give the high-five, smile,"Hey, whatz up? I love you." and usual bula-bula. 1000 ST is more than fair. Regret leaving next week. Lots here still to do.
The gal I found last night while walking Fields. She yelled "Popper, Popper, is it you?" Turned around. Barely recognized her, but yea, she from two years ago. These Philippinas and their memories, last more than forever. At the time she worked at Texas, moved to Typhoon, and now yet another bar. As soon as I agreed to take her again, my cell buzzed. Damn. This was the gal I really wanted too.
So many women, so little time. There are two reasons why I like this gal: the right and left one.
--Popper
In the past I have always looked for the HSBC ATM *because they were the only ones that let me withdraw 20, 000 per a transaction. On last months trip I tried just about every other banks ATM and the most I could withdraw was 10, 000. Most of the ATMs stated "your bank will not allow that amount of a withdraw" (not the exact wording, but you get the idea). But for some reason my bank, Wells Fargo, trusts me to withdraw 15, 000 from HSBC*
Still prefer the good ole days when they offered 20, 000, but I had no other choice. *The only HSBC I found was the one mentioned below, across the street from the terraces of Ayala mall in Cebu.
Also as noted below, my iPhone and iPad both convert I'd into I'd. It's an Apple thing.
FruitNinja
01-02-13, 22:49
In the past I have always looked for the HSBC ATM *because they were the only ones that let me withdraw 20, 000 per a transaction. On last months trip I tried just about every other banks ATM and the most I could withdraw was 10, 000. Most of the ATMs stated "your bank will not allow that amount of a withdraw" (not the exact wording, but you get the idea). But for some reason my bank, Wells Fargo, trusts me to withdraw 15, 000 from HSBC*
Still prefer the good ole days when they offered 20, 000, but I had no other choice. *The only HSBC I found was the one mentioned below, across the street from the terraces of Ayala mall in Cebu.
Also as noted below, my iPhone and iPad both convert I'd into I'd. It's an Apple thing.Limited access to $$ is probably not a big deal in low cost countries like the Philippines but most US cards limit ATM to $200USD. Burn that in a day real easy in Europe. I bank with a smaller bank and they allow $400 ATM withdrawals. I also have two ATM cards linked to different accounts so it doubles that figure. Will report on how much they let me take in Angeles. I called them to let them know I will be traveling for the month and there was no mention of limits.
I came across this post as I was browsing this thread for a future visit. I use First Republic Bank (branches in NYC, SF, etc) it's a small boutique bank with no tellers, you have a personal banker. Their polity is to refund all ATM fees worldwide charged by other banks. I've been using them for years and can't recommend it enough.
All my accounts were opened at the same branch. I make it a point to show my face often. Keep the personal in personal banking. (it's 5 blocks from my place) There are some fees that are non-refundable. As in there is no mechanism programmed at corporate level to allow for it or they are limited by regulation. I'm not sure about Wells and BoFA (like they really care about customer service) but my district manager has discretionary funds that he can spend as he sees fit. I also have a considerable line of credit that I have never used. The yearly fee is $50. I have never paid for this.
I'm pretty brutal when it comes to the banks. I see them as worthless. Customer service has gone to shit and all they care about is turning profits. And I'm with ya! These asses borrow money from the fed for 0% or the give us. 024% on our deposits. They went from "too big to fail" to "government guaranteed profits" All Dod Frank did was make it impossible for the average guy to get a mortgage.
Retired Army
01-02-13, 23:56
I understand that the PI pretty much shuts down on Good Friday and Easter. No public transportation, bars closed, etc. Can someone please confirm if this is true or not. My main concern, besides finding cold beer, is getting from AC to Manila on Good Friday. As a last resort, I'm sure one of the hotels will provide transportation at a premium.
Pip Jaeger
01-03-13, 00:43
I understand that the PI pretty much shuts down on Good Friday and Easter. No public transportation, bars closed, etc. Can someone please confirm if this is true or not. My main concern, besides finding cold beer, is getting from AC to Manila on Good Friday. As a last resort, I'm sure one of the hotels will provide transportation at a premium.Don't know about public transport on Good Friday / Easter weekend, but Margarita Station offers car service; they do charge an extra 250php holiday surcharge over their regular rates (2, 600php for a car). The car should have a cooler for your beer and, of course for an extra fee, they can even stock it for you as well.
Link to their rate chart:
http://www.margaritastation.com/oets.html
You may also want to look into "Fly the Bus" with Swagman, they'll probably be running, but don't know if you'll have to pay a surcharge and I believe its BYOB
http://www.swaggy.com/index-bus-service.php
Rubberyman
01-03-13, 01:21
I understand that the PI pretty much shuts down on Good Friday and Easter. No public transportation, bars closed, etc. Can someone please confirm if this is true or not. My main concern, besides finding cold beer, is getting from AC to Manila on Good Friday. As a last resort, I'm sure one of the hotels will provide transportation at a premium.I was there a couple of years ago over Easter.
The ATMs at the mall were closed, as was the Mall itself. Other ATMs ran out of money over the weekend, so bring some cash.
Bars seemed to be mostly open on Fields (I didn't visit them all, but there were enough open to satisfy my, ahem, 'needs').
You might find that the holiday means that there is not that much traffic on the roads to and from Manila, making your trip a little quicker. Outside church hours that is.
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Ok, I have some vacation time coming up, and have long been curious about visiting the Phillipines. I have been to the spectacle that is Pattaya, and it seems that Angeles may be a similar paradise. However, I have been reading through previous postings going back pretty far, and I am starting to get a little spooked about the prevalence of STD's and barebacking. The PI is the only country with its own section called 'Safe sex in the Phillipines, ' and its pretty active.
So how bad is it? Is it two condoms, scrubbing with peroxide and bleach bad? Although I love to travel for fun, I am into safety too, and will divert to a better destination if necessary.
I came across this post as I was browsing this thread for a future visit. I use First Republic Bank (branches in NYC, SF, etc) it's a small boutique bank with no tellers, you have a personal banker. Their polity is to refund all ATM fees worldwide charged by other banks. I've been using them for years and can't recommend it enough.Same bank I use.
Also use Chase.
Talked to account managers at both and got them to agree to refund all charges and raise my ATM withdraw limits to 1000. Some machines have their own limits too though.
Ok, I have some vacation time coming up, and have long been curious about visiting the Phillipines. I have been to the spectacle that is Pattaya, and it seems that Angeles may be a similar paradise. However, I have been reading through previous postings going back pretty far, and I am starting to get a little spooked about the prevalence of STD's and barebacking. The PI is the only country with its own section called 'Safe sex in the Phillipines, ' and its pretty active.
So how bad is it? Is it two condoms, scrubbing with peroxide and bleach bad? Although I love to travel for fun, I am into safety too, and will divert to a better destination if necessary.Angeles has a very bad reputation for some nasty STD's, no reports on HIV outbreaks YET, but lots of reports of drug resistant gonorrhea cases popping up. My opinion is that the cases of HIV are being under reported.
Angeles has a very bad reputation for some nasty STD's, no reports on HIV outbreaks YET, but lots of reports of drug resistant gonorrhea cases popping up. My opinion is that the cases of HIV are being under reported.Hmmm. Ok. How about other places in the PI, like Manila and Cebu, or even other places in Luzon?
Angeles has a very bad reputation for some nasty STD's, no reports on HIV outbreaks YET, but lots of reports of drug resistant gonorrhea cases popping up. My opinion is that the cases of HIV are being under reported.Yes, at the more established bars that are weekly health checks and thus a degree of control, but one really does not know how reliable they are.
Absent any reliable information, one needs to be careful and discipline, and not give to temptation with that GF experience that one gets in the Philippines more often than in Thailand. Many are surprised as to how many uneducated / inexperienced girls in the Philippines who really like you do not insist on a condom, and encourage you not to do it. The more educated / experienced / mature ones insist on a condom. STAY discipline, use your OWN condoms, and stay safe.
Ace,
This is my problem. I cannot find an HSBC ATM in AC! I have an HSBC Premier ATM card and Credit card.
Funman.
The only bank in the Philippines that does not charge a 200php foreign card ATM transaction fee is HSBC. You will be charged a 200php fee at Citibank (unless you use a Citibank ATM card) and all the other local ATM's; BDO, BPI ect. Always maximize your ATM withdrawl to minimize the fees charged.
TIA,
That's a good idea if you go regularly. However, bear in mind one thing. The Peso fluctuates pretty much against the Dollar (or Euro). So, say if you open an account this month with UD$10, 000, in 6 months it may be worth only $9, 000. I have a small business interest in Bali, Indonesia, and have the same problem.
I will be in AC from Feb 1 to 5. If you are in town, I'll hold you to that beer!
Funman.
As my work may take me there semi regularly: is it easy enough to just bring some $$, open a bank account there and then use a local ATM without getting hit with international fees and / or crappy exchange rates?
Surely many here, expats or otherwise, have done this.
TIA
In USA we say "photo I'd".
Great idea about opening two accounts: foreign and local currencies. Thanks.
Yes, it's easy to open an account. I did so with my passport and another picture IDENTIFICATION (gads, that word can't be abbreviated? Something has run amok.) plus the address of my condo. I recall minimum dollar deposit is $200 for most banks, but you can check online. BPI, BDO, and MetroBank are three of the larger ones. You can then wire transfer a sizable dollar sum to the dollar account. BTW, minimum peso deposit for a peso account is p500. You might want to open one of those too, and if the exchange rate works in your favour withdraw dollars, exchange, and deposit for use later.
TIA,
That's a good idea if you go regularly. However, bear in mind one thing. The Peso fluctuates pretty much against the Dollar (or Euro). So, say if you open an account this month with UD$10, 000, in 6 months it may be worth only $9, 000. Funman.Might be, but if you plan to use that account to spend money only and the prices stay the same. It is irrelevant whether those peso are worth less dollars. If you plan not to spend and draw the peso back into dollar then the fluctuation can represent a problem.
Might be, but if you plan to use that account to spend money only and the prices stay the same. It is irrelevant whether those peso are worth less dollars. If you plan not to spend and draw the peso back into dollar then the fluctuation can represent a problem.Most likely you lose only if you plan to spend and keep it in Dollars until.
For several years I always used ChinaBank in SM. They had the best deal, maximum withdrawal of 20, 000p with 150p ATM fee. However, the last time I was in AC in November, the max was only 10, 000p (US$243) with 200p ($4. 87) , same as other banks. Seems like all ATMs of Fili banks in AC now have the same limit and fee. What a rip-off!
Does anyone know a better ATM? What is the limit of the CitiBank ATM on MacArthur?
I read somewhere that there is an HSBC ATM at Clark Airport now. Can anyone verify? Going back to AC in February. Thanks.While on vacation last month. I made a last minute 2nd trip back to AC. I was low of funds. So I went to western union. Com and sent myself money to cover the 6 days in AC. The fees was very low, free if I sent the money to Western Union by my bank's bill pay and only $9 if I sent money in minutes. If I chose the money transfer option from my bank account to western union the fee was $2. 99. The exchange rate was a little low 39. 7. But I see now you can also be paid out in US dollars. The max amount you can send is $2999. 99.
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Irish Yogi
01-04-13, 02:04
hi all,
i'm off to angeles in febuary for a 3 week holiday, i have been to thailand many times in the past and have been hearing a lot about a. c. from various sources.
whilst my times in thailand have been fun to date, it's a big world out there and as my granny used to say ' when the duck is wet the elephant, though dry, will always eat a ham sandwich and perform cunnilingus on a crocodile ' (my granny was senile ).
my question is whether or not there are any establishments that cater for those people like myself who are into a bit of s&m. i don't mean heavy play, or bloodplay, nothing serious really. basically i am talking about light bondage, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), and stuff like that.
i have been onto all the websites specialising in this (won't mention them here for fear of breaking any rules) , and can't find any info.
many thanks for any information or advice.
Stroker Ace88
01-04-13, 02:08
TIA,
That's a good idea if you go regularly. However, bear in mind one thing. The Peso fluctuates pretty much against the Dollar (or Euro). So, say if you open an account this month with UD$10, 000, in 6 months it may be worth only $9, 000. I have a small business interest in Bali, Indonesia, and have the same problem.
I will be in AC from Feb 1 to 5. If you are in town, I'll hold you to that beer!
Funman.
In USA we say "photo I'd".
Great idea about opening two accounts: foreign and local currencies. Thanks.FM,
I was the OP and Hutsorry just repeated what I posted.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1367414#post1367414
The peso does fluctuate alot versus the dollar, and that's the beauty of my system. Open a local peso account and a USD account and-or third currency account with a philippine bank. (only select Philippine banks offer third currency accounts). I wire transfer money into the USD or third currency account and it remains there unaffected by currency fluctuations until I choose to exchange it into pesos. I watch the rate and when it gets at or near a 52 week high I make the exchange.
The downside, you will have to go into your philippine bank a few days ahead of time to make sure they have the currency on hand for the transaction. Another point, you have to do the exchange in person, no phone calls, emails or proxy will do. They need your signature and it's best to be there to ensure the rate and transaction goes smooth. Also only exchange money-peso that you plan to spend, because every time you make an exchange you lose a percentage.
This system works great for someone who lives in the Philippines or spends alot of time here and can afford to let some money sit and wait for the rate to go up. Also works best for someone who will exhange alot of funds at once, because a few percentage points make a big difference. If you are only spending 40000php per year in the Philippines just exchange it at current rates.
If I don't catch you before your sojourn on to AC, Hombre, have a very Happy Hunting New Year. BTW, school girl wifey just told me she wants to phuck YOU as a belated "Christmas" gift to me. WTF? I have not even told her yet I'm withholding Winter Term tuition for some wrong attitude she's been giving me recently, LOL. But I don't mind you nailing her; she's a dirty filthy hore, haha.
And a very Happy New Year to the rest of you pussy mongering preverts as well!
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Thank you Pete, it was more than exceptional. That was an evening I will never forget.
Kitie Carson
01-04-13, 07:00
While on vacation last month. I made a last minute 2nd trip back to AC. I was low of funds. So I went to western union. Com and sent myself money to cover the 6 days in AC. The fees was very low, free if I sent the money to Western Union by my bank's bill pay and only $9 if I sent money in minutes. If I chose the money transfer option from my bank account to western union the fee was $2. 99. The exchange rate was a little low 39. 7. But I see now you can also be paid out in US dollars. The max amount you can send is $2999. 99.
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I cannot find an HSBC ATM in AC! I have an HSBC Premier ATM card and Credit card.I've exactly the same and there is no need for HSBC ATM. Take any other ATM (BPI, BDO etc) and you won't be charged. If you're on Premier status the fee is waived by the bank. At least it works for me in that way.
Pete Benetar
01-04-13, 09:51
That does it, I will have to go to Ghana this year in search of similar experience.Ah. Soooo. You have uncover my true intent as nefarious travel czar of Dark Continent promoting shamelessly, thieving affluent white male from economy of asia. Hahahaha.
I've exactly the same and there is no need for HSBC ATM. Take any other ATM (BPI, BDO etc) and you won't be charged. If you're on Premier status the fee is waived by the bank. At least it works for me in that way.Watch out. When I got my new HSBC (Hong Kong) Premier ATM card with the Chip, there is no more PLUS logo but now Unionpay. If the ATMs have no Union Pay (like in Cambodia for example) it may not work at all anymore.
I've exactly the same and there is no need for HSBC ATM. Take any other ATM (BPI, BDO etc) and you won't be charged. If you're on Premier status the fee is waived by the bank. At least it works for me in that way.
Ace,
This is my problem. I cannot find an HSBC ATM in AC! I have an HSBC Premier ATM card and Credit card.From the 'HSBC Premier Easy Guide to Bank Services and Charges' on hsbc. com. ph:
ATM Fees
Local Cash Withdrawal
Via HSBC ATM - No Charge.
Via BancNet / Megalink / ExpressNet ATM - No Charge.
Same for Balance Enquiry.
hi all,
i'm off to angeles in febuary for a 3 week holiday, i have been to thailand many times in the past and have been hearing a lot about a. c. from various sources.
whilst my times in thailand have been fun to date, it's a big world out there and as my granny used to say ' when the duck is wet the elephant, though dry, will always eat a ham sandwich and perform cunnilingus on a crocodile ' (my granny was senile ).
my question is whether or not there are any establishments that cater for those people like myself who are into a bit of s&m. i don't mean heavy play, or bloodplay, nothing serious really. basically i am talking about light bondage, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), and stuff like that.
i have been onto all the websites specialising in this (won't mention them here for fear of breaking any rules) , and can't find any info.
many thanks for any information or advice.nope, nothing like that at all. it would be shut down in a heartbeat. the girls cannot even dance topless in ac bars. most of the girls are country bumpkins who know only that the meat goes in the hole. i'm sure you could convince a few girls to participate back in your room, but they wouldn't be into it at all and would have no concept of what was going on.
for your purposes you'd be much better off going to bangkok and spending time in places like bar bar which cater to your paraphilia.
Irish Yogi
01-04-13, 17:21
Nope, nothing like that at all. It would be shut down in a heartbeat. The girls cannot even dance topless in AC bars. Most of the girls are country bumpkins who know only that the meat goes in the hole. I'm sure you could convince a few girls to participate back in your room, but they wouldn't be into it at all and would have no concept of what was going on.
For your purposes you'd be much better off going to Bangkok and spending time in places like Bar Bar which cater to your paraphilia.I was afraid of that, sure I will just have to make do. Have frequented bar bar, Eden and, in the past, Demonia. My favorite remains ' The Castle 'in Pattaya but as I said, its time for a change.
Thanks for the info.
How's it going, people? Quick geography question for those who know the area: I was planning to stay at the Phoenix Hotel on Perimeter Road and Malabanias (my top choices were already full for my Jan. 9 arrival day, unless somebody has a recommendation? I want to move closer to Fields for the rest of my stay.) Is this walkable to the nightlife area on Fields, and what's the walking time, at a Philippines holiday pace? A jeepney would be, what. 10P or something, right? And trike trips at night are going to be around 100P? Please forgive the questions, just wanted to confirm with people who might be in the know.
Another question: for the run from the airport, is there a way to get from the terminal to the main gate to grab a jeepney? Or am I going to have to fight for the 300-350P I've read it should cost in a taxi? Jeepneys make the run past the main gate of the airport, right?
When I look up a WU payment it says the fee is only $6 now. WOW. That may be cheaper and safer than an ATM.I looked into Western Union as a backup for cash and also saw the $6 for instant cash in the Philippines. The same service is $25 almost everywhere else and I think $27 in Thailand. Why does WU have such a sweet deal with the Philippines?
How's it going, people? Quick geography question for those who know the area: I was planning to stay at the Phoenix Hotel on Perimeter Road and Malabanias (my top choices were already full for my Jan. 9 arrival day, unless somebody has a recommendation? I want to move closer to Fields for the rest of my stay.) Is this walkable to the nightlife area on Fields, and what's the walking time, at a Philippines holiday pace? A jeepney would be, what. 10P or something, right? And trike trips at night are going to be around 100P? Please forgive the questions, just wanted to confirm with people who might be in the know.
Another question: for the run from the airport, is there a way to get from the terminal to the main gate to grab a jeepney? Or am I going to have to fight for the 300-350P I've read it should cost in a taxi? Jeepneys make the run past the main gate of the airport, right?If you live away from fields area in any hotel take jeepney especially at night. Negotiate before you get into the jeepney.
There is jeepney now from the airport which will take you to I believe main gate or robinson mall. I did not take it because of a big suitcase I had. Taxi cost me 250 pesos after some haggling to Devera hotel. Still they put two more people in the taxi but dropped me first.
Rubberyman
01-04-13, 23:42
If you live away from fields area in any hotel take jeepney especially at night. Negotiate before you get into the jeepney.
There is jeepney now from the airport which will take you to I believe main gate or robinson mall. I did not take it because of a big suitcase I had. Taxi cost me 250 pesos after some haggling to Devera hotel. Still they put two more people in the taxi but dropped me first.Is there any reason to negotiate with a jeepney? I always hand them a 10 Piso coin and sometimes I get 2 Piso change. Never thought 2 Piso worth the haggle time. However, trikes are another matter. I am pretty sure that distance is 70P, but they won't argue with 100P methinks. However, I would not put it past them to try for more, so an up-front agreement is good policy.
Is there any reason to negotiate with a jeepney? I always hand them a 10 Piso coin and sometimes I get 2 Piso change. Never thought 2 Piso worth the haggle time. However, trikes are another matter. I am pretty sure that distance is 70P, but they won't argue with 100P methinks. However, I would not put it past them to try for more, so an up-front agreement is good policy.Sorry, I meant trikes.
I looked into Western Union as a backup for cash and also saw the $6 for instant cash in the Philippines. The same service is $25 almost everywhere else and I think $27 in Thailand. Why does WU have such a sweet deal with the Philippines?Because the country's entire economy is based on remissions from overseas workers. The biggest export of the Philippines is it's own people.
For the same reason there are numerous shipping companies based only on sending things from other countries back the Philippines. You can send a huge box from NYC to Manila for one fourth the cost to send the same box from NYC to Chicago.
I was afraid of that, sure I will just have to make do. Have frequented bar bar, Eden and, in the past, Demonia. My favorite remains ' The Castle 'in Pattaya but as I said, its time for a change.
Thanks for the info.Which of those places do you like best? I've heard mixed reviews about Bar Bar and The Castle. Been to Eden, used to be great, now not so much, but never saw any BDSM action there.
Irish Yogi
01-05-13, 10:37
Which of those places do you like best? I've heard mixed reviews about Bar Bar and The Castle. Been to Eden, used to be great, now not so much, but never saw any BDSM action there.Eden doesn't specialise in it per say, but as I'm sure you have experienced their girls are very open and willing, as well as just being naturally submissive.
My favorite place was the Castle by far, not a brilliant selection of women but there is always one or two crackers. My friends tend to like the place too, though their interests are not in line with my own, they can take a girl from there safe in the knowledge that there will be very few limits set by the girl so anal, cim etc are never a problem.
I have really had my fill of Thailand at this stage so will be heading to AC for 3 weeks in August. If ever I was in two minds about it, this forum has made my mind up. Just trying to decide on a hotel, I saw one with a jacuzzi and a pole dancing stage in the room so its either there or the ABC. It appears to be even cheaper than Thailand too, which doesn't hurt and Etihad Airlines have started flying direct from Dublin. The Universe is telling me to go LOL.
Irish Yogi
01-05-13, 10:44
Which of those places do you like best? I've heard mixed reviews about Bar Bar and The Castle. Been to Eden, used to be great, now not so much, but never saw any BDSM action there.Eden, though not specialising in the ' Lifestyle' have rather openminded and submissive girls anyway so that suits. The Castle is by far my favorite, not a great selection of women but the odd cracker and no limits that I have encountered. My 'vanilla' friends like it too, purely for that reason.
Its time for a change though so, its off to AC I go.
Eden, though not specialising in the ' Lifestyle' have rather openminded and submissive girls anyway so that suits. The Castle is by far my favorite, not a great selection of women but the odd cracker and no limits that I have encountered. My 'vanilla' friends like it too, purely for that reason.
Its time for a change though so, its off to AC I go.If you are there for a while I suggest you bring some gear with you. I have a bag of goodies from Thailand and elsewhere that I keep in Phils. As for the girls most will wear the costumes, no problem with that. Once they feel comfortable they will be up for it. I got few that I use in AC and manila and I find it far more fun then in Thailand because here I can teach and mold them to what I like. AC can be far more fun then what your first impression will be, but it gets better the more time you spend there.
Hi Guys.
This is the first time I have posted on the Angeles City forum. I am looking at hitting Angeles City some time this year and I am just looking for advice.
What is the main airport to fly into to get to Angeles City? Also what is the best route to take to get there from the UK?
I am looking at spending a week in Angeles City then hitting Bangkok for a week.
Would be grateful for any help someone can give.
Cheers
Transporter
01-05-13, 21:55
Hi Guys.
This is the first time I have posted on the Angeles City forum. I am looking at hitting Angeles City some time this year and I am just looking for advice.
What is the main airport to fly into to get to Angeles City? Also what is the best route to take to get there from the UK?
I am looking at spending a week in Angeles City then hitting Bangkok for a week.
Would be grateful for any help someone can give.
CheersLooks like its an international flight for you, so NAIA is the only choice right now.
You will be flying into Manila, but its only short drive to AC.
You can arrange a pickup through your hotel or secondary service.
Depending on time of day (traffic) it could take 1. 5 to 3 hours drive.
If you would like to fly you can fly into Clark airport which is 5 minutes outside of AC.
There are flights in and out of Clark to Bankok.
A flight to Clark from Manila I do not know as I have never done that. There is however a helicopter service (did that) cost about 300US for the private charter.
TheAfricanBoy
01-05-13, 21:58
Superboy,
I suggest you fly one of the UAE airlines etihad or emirates into Kuala Lumpur and out of BAngkok. They do those multiple city fares at a very low rate out of London. Air asia has direct flights into Clark airport from KL at very cheap rates. (Clark is the main airport of AC)
The rev
Transporter
01-05-13, 22:05
How's it going, people? Quick geography question for those who know the area: I was planning to stay at the Phoenix Hotel on Perimeter Road and Malabanias (my top choices were already full for my Jan. 9 arrival day, unless somebody has a recommendation? I want to move closer to Fields for the rest of my stay.) Is this walkable to the nightlife area on Fields, and what's the walking time, at a Philippines holiday pace? A jeepney would be, what. 10P or something, right? And trike trips at night are going to be around 100P? Please forgive the questions, just wanted to confirm with people who might be in the know.
Another question: for the run from the airport, is there a way to get from the terminal to the main gate to grab a jeepney? Or am I going to have to fight for the 300-350P I've read it should cost in a taxi? Jeepneys make the run past the main gate of the airport, right?Phoenix hotel kind of in the middle of perimeter.
Walking not a problem (depends on weather)
Not the nicest hotel, but until you see with your own eyes and compare its hard to recommend anything since I have no idea what your criteria is.
Jeepeney 8 peso.
Trike (for foreigners) 100 peso.
Airport run it is a set price 500 peso unless you find the vans that take multiple passengers (multiple stops)
I do not recommend going out of the airport to find cheaper transportation (its a long way)
Looks like its an international flight for you, so NAIA is the only choice right now.
You will be flying into Manila, but its only short drive to AC.
You can arrange a pickup through your hotel or secondary service.
Depending on time of day (traffic) it could take 1. 5 to 3 hours drive.
If you would like to fly you can fly into Clark airport which is 5 minutes outside of AC.
There are flights in and out of Clark to Bankok.
A flight to Clark from Manila I do not know as I have never done that. There is however a helicopter service (did that) cost about 300US for the private charter.Thanks for the info Transporter, you are a star.
ThickTrick
01-05-13, 23:50
Because the country's entire economy is based on remissions from overseas workers. The biggest export of the Philippines is it's own people.
For the same reason there are numerous shipping companies based only on sending things from other countries back the Philippines. You can send a huge box from NYC to Manila for one fourth the cost to send the same box from NYC to Chicago.Would you mind providing some recommendations? I am looking to ship some things to and from Manila. Might even be importing clothing made cheaply in a friends factory in Manila.
Thanks,
TT
Hi Guys.
This is the first time I have posted on the Angeles City forum. I am looking at hitting Angeles City some time this year and I am just looking for advice.
What is the main airport to fly into to get to Angeles City? Also what is the best route to take to get there from the UK?
I am looking at spending a week in Angeles City then hitting Bangkok for a week.
Would be grateful for any help someone can give.
Cheers
Looks like its an international flight for you, so NAIA is the only choice right now.
You will be flying into Manila, but its only short drive to AC.
You can arrange a pickup through your hotel or secondary service.
Depending on time of day (traffic) it could take 1. 5 to 3 hours drive.
If you would like to fly you can fly into Clark airport which is 5 minutes outside of AC.
There are flights in and out of Clark to Bankok.
A flight to Clark from Manila I do not know as I have never done that. There is however a helicopter service (did that) cost about 300US for the private charter.If it were me, I'd look at who you were flying with from the UK. Airlines take you via their home, Singapore Air via Singapore, Cathay via HK and Malay Airlines via KL, etc. Links directly into Clark are available from lots of airline home countries.
OP didn't specify a direct flight, but I'm happy to concede to Transporter if there is some difficulty I'm missing.
Hope this helps.
Stroker Ace88
01-06-13, 02:22
Hi Guys.
This is the first time I have posted on the Angeles City forum. I am looking at hitting Angeles City some time this year and I am just looking for advice. What is the main airport to fly into to get to Angeles City? Also what is the best route to take to get there from the UK? I am looking at spending a week in Angeles City then hitting Bangkok for a week. Would be grateful for any help someone can give.
Looks like its an international flight for you, so NAIA is the only choice right now. You will be flying into Manila, but its only short drive to AC. You can arrange a pickup through your hotel or secondary service. Depending on time of day (traffic) it could take 1. 5 to 3 hours drive. If you would like to fly you can fly into Clark airport which is 5 minutes outside of AC. There are flights in and out of Clark to Bankok. A flight to Clark from Manila I do not know as I have never done that. There is however a helicopter service (did that) cost about 300US for the private charter.Whoo whoo woooo down! Private helicopter service from MNL-Clark? WTF are you drinking mate? IMO very Trump-like advice, much better to book a flight on the Red Bull Stratos balloon and jump from 128000 ft like Felix did, meaning you can land in time for tea and a roll in the hay with a BG or three. Sky rockets in flight, afternoon delight mate.
Booking private helocopter rides is so passe in the Philippines. Besides WR already has most of the helicopter fleet on 24hr standby for a quick jaunt with the peach to my private island in Palawan.
Some questionable advice IMO, but to each there own. Personally if departing the UK I would book a direct flight LHR-BKK with BA, Qantas, Virgin or any of the other carriers. Lots to choose from. Spend 4 days in BKK and book a direct BKK-Clark flight and spend a week in AC. Return to BKK and spend your final 3 days before departing for the UK.
Forget about connecting flights, forget about flying into MNL, forget about booking a helicopter or any of that bola.
SB, you should put in some time and RTFF if you are serious about visiting SEA for pussy. While I applaud you for being honest about not even knowning what airport is closest to AC it's also a sign that you almost booked a helicopter ride when a stratos balloon would do.
Member #4698
01-06-13, 03:48
Personally if departing the UK I would book a direct flight LHR-BKK with BA, Qantas, Virgin or any of the other carriers. Lots to choose from. Spend 4 days in BKK and book a direct BKK-Clark flight and spend a week in AC. Return to BKK and spend your final 3 days before departing for the UK.
Forget about connecting flights, forget about flying into MNL, forget about booking a helicopter or any of that bola.Being crazy about Thai girls and considering them the most attractive girls in Asia, I can definitely say that suggestion #1. Europe / BKK / AC is a great way to go. But it is not bola to consider suggestion #2. Europe / Manila / AC. This is a great 100% Filipina way to go and makes a lot of logistical sense. While Manila is not as nice a travel destination as BKK on many counts. Food, cultural stuff, hotel prices, transportation, safety: Manila is still very good city for hooking up with super friendly English speaking Filipinas and getting a taste of their GFE. Manila girls are great. And if AC is the eventual destination target of the trip, Manila is the easier way to get to AC. Why wait through the lines at Suvarnabhumi Airport just to travel to AC? That is fucking around 4x in an international airport compared to 2x if you fly straight into Manila. From Ninoy Aquino International you can order an AC hotel car to pick up and take you straight to AC or you can spend a few nights in Manila and travel to AC at your convenience. You can also just take the bus. It usually takes 2 hours to travel by car from MNL to AC. On your return you again have the option of skipping Manila completely and going straight from AC to the airport or spending a few days in Manila. Metro Manila is actually many cities. You can stay in Makati or Ermita / Malate. They are very different. Both have a very healthy nightlife.
The choice is up to you. My point is there is no wrong way to do this. Europe / BKK (and if you have the time Pattaya too) /AC makes a very good trip. But so does Europe / Manila / AC (and if you have the time Subic too). I know guys who have never set foot in Thailand and they are totally happy with punting exclusively in the PI. I know guys, I used to be one of them, who have never set foot in the PI and are totally happy punting in LOS. That reminds me; suggestion #3. Europe – BKK – Pattaya, a 100% LOS trip. Tough choices. No wrong way to go.
Ekspat.
Like Tiger 888, I am HSBC Premier Hong Kong. Is yours Philippines? Maybe that's why I am charged fees.
I've exactly the same and there is no need for HSBC ATM. Take any other ATM (BPI, BDO etc) and you won't be charged. If you're on Premier status the fee is waived by the bank. At least it works for me in that way.
Like Tiger 888, I am HSBC Premier Hong Kong. Is yours Philippines? Maybe that's why I am charged fees.Possible indeed. Yes, this account is in PI and the card was issued in Makati.
there is no more PLUS logo but now Unionpay. If the ATMs have no Union PayYou're right, PLUS is gone, but my HK card has got CIRRUS now. Widely available as well, isn't it? Anyway, these days I hardly use the HK issued card. And Cambo isn't high on the list of my preferred destinations.
Cheers!
Llantarnam
01-06-13, 13:15
Hi Guys.
This is the first time I have posted on the Angeles City forum. I am looking at hitting Angeles City some time this year and I am just looking for advice.
What is the main airport to fly into to get to Angeles City? Also what is the best route to take to get there from the UK?
I am looking at spending a week in Angeles City then hitting Bangkok for a week.
Would be grateful for any help someone can give.
CheersIf you are flying from UK then you have 2 choices;
1) Fly with a national carrier to Manila and get a taxi to AC.
2) Fly with a national carrier to one of the other asian capitals and then get a low cost airline to Clark.
Given that you want to go onto BKK, the logical answer is get a return flight to BKK and then a low cost carrier from BKK to Clark.
PS. I though $300 for the helicopter was good value for money.
If you are flying from UK then you have 2 choices;
1) Fly with a national carrier to Manila and get a taxi to AC.
2) Fly with a national carrier to one of the other asian capitals and then get a low cost airline to Clark.
Given that you want to go onto BKK, the logical answer is get a return flight to BKK and then a low cost carrier from BKK to Clark.
PS. I though $300 for the helicopter was good value for money.This looks like the way to go. Return flight to BKK then low cost carrier to Clark.
Just one more question, do you know what low cost carriers do the BKK to Clark route?
This looks like the way to go. Return flight to BKK then low cost carrier to Clark.
Just one more question, do you know what low cost carriers do the BKK to Clark route?Cebu Pacific is good value:
http://www.cebupacificair.com/Pages/RouteMap.aspx
I agree with previous posters Europe-BKK is a better route than to Manila. More route choices, usually better prices and Bangkok is a better, very modern airport. I have transferred through Manila and Bangkok a couple of times and prefer Bangkok. Hong Kong could also be a third alternative, a good modern airport with lots of connections o Europe and cheap direct low cost connection to Bangkok, Clark and Cebu. Hong Kong is not that good for mongering but great for a few days of food, shopping, luxury.
Llantarnam
01-06-13, 14:40
This looks like the way to go. Return flight to BKK then low cost carrier to Clark.
Just one more question, do you know what low cost carriers do the BKK to Clark route?Tiger (not everyones favourite) fly the route.
Don't know when you are planning on booking the flight, but if you keep an eye on the HUKD site, they often have links to cheap flights.
ThickTrick
01-06-13, 23:37
I am looking to do the same thing from the US.
Can someone please explain what the HUKD site is?
Tiger (not everyones favourite) fly the route.
Don't know when you are planning on booking the flight, but if you keep an eye on the HUKD site, they often have links to cheap flights.
Fast Eddie 48
01-07-13, 01:54
Tiger (not everyones favourite) fly the route.
Don't know when you are planning on booking the flight, but if you keep an eye on the HUKD site, they often have links to cheap flights.To Liantarnam,
I fly with SeaAir on NOV last yr Clark to BKK one way cost only 70 USD non stop leave around 4. 30 pm, Air asia and cebu pacific also fly this route but very late flight bool online to get best fare.
Fasteddie 48
Don't foget to consider Air Asia too.
I have taken these 3 budget airlines many times. They are about the same. The things you need to look for in deciding which one to take:
1. Price: They all have promotion prices which is very cheap. However, I can never understand how these prices are posted. For example, a promotion price for a certain date will be available if you book early, then may not be available for a month or so, then suddenly is available again. Perhaps the sale of tickets for that date did not do well.
2. Schedule: They fly the same routes but at different times. If you are only transiting in Bangkok, KL, or whatever city, you don't want to spend half a day in the airport waiting for the next flight. However, do not book the connecting flight too close in time to the preciding flight. If that flight is delayed and you miss your connection, you are screwed. I always give 4-5 hours. Most planes are delays for 2-3 hours.
Good luck.
...Don't foget to consider Air Asia too.Be aware that Airasia does not fly to BKK but to DMK instead.
Air asia and cebu pacific also fly this routeAir Asia does NOT fly BKK-CLK direct, it's via Kuala Lumpur.
Be aware that Airasia does not fly to BKK but to DMK instead.DMK is BKK as well, but the old Don Muang Airport.
Cheers!
DMK is BKK as well, but the old Don Muang Airport.Cheers!Do not get confused.
BKK Is the aviation abbreviation for new airport of Bangkok, ie Suvarnabhumi.
DMX Is the aviation abbreviation for the old airport of Bangkok, ie Don Muang.
Simply people refer to Bangkok as BKK as a town, but not in "airport terms".
So one cannot say DMX is BKK LOL
Something is the nick and abbreviation of the town, something else is the official aviation abbreviation.
Cheers
Don't foget to consider Air Asia too.
I have taken these 3 budget airlines many times. They are about the same. The things you need to look for in deciding which one to take:
1. Price:
2. Schedule: They fly the same routes but at different times. If you are only transiting in Bangkok, KL, or whatever city, you don't want to spend half a day in the airport waiting for the next flight. However, do not book the connecting flight too close in time to the preciding flight. If that flight is delayed and you miss your connection, you are screwed. I always give 4-5 hours. Most planes are delays for 2-3 hours.
Good luck.1) Low cost or budget airlines have sohisticated softwares to work out the best price for them, giving the maximum yeld, depending on the booking time.
The closer you get to the flight date the higher the price gets, bearing also in mind the occupancy factor. Low cost airlines never overbook, so they sell only actual free seats.
2) Wise advise as any low cost will never elte you buy a transfer or connecting travel. All are Point-to-point. So better have a sufficient time for collecting luggage, do a new check-in and go to the new gate. No excuses for delays due to connecting flight: there is none!
OK guys, it will be my first time in AC. I know the RTFF but it's really hard to dig deep into such a big info collection.
I heard that AC is famous of the pool party. Is there any chance that the pool party will be held on Mon-Wed? (I'll be there Jan. 21-23). If not then does it make sense to look for a hotel with a swimming pool? If yes then which one (I'm afraid ABC is too expensive at that moment).
Moreover, can you recommend the bar / pub? I wouldn't waste the precocious time.
Thanks so much.
Cheers.
T. 72
Llantarnam
01-07-13, 19:48
I am looking to do the same thing from the US.
Can someone please explain what the HUKD site is?Afraid it won't help you in USA.
Hot UK Deals (http://www.hotukdeals.com/travel/deals/new) is a forum for people who find a good deal in the UK. Sometimes it's a tin of Heinz beans for 5p, sometinmes it's a return flight to Peru for £250.
Pool parties are on the weekend and usually Sunday afternoon. You won't find one on a weekday unless you have one of your own. Having a pool is a personal preference. Best to find a hotel that looks good to you and go from there. You only have 3 days.
Mr Enternational
01-07-13, 20:34
Pool parties are on the weekend and usually Sunday afternoon. You won't find one on a weekday unless you have one of your own. Having a pool is a personal preference. Best to find a hotel that looks good to you and go from there. You only have 3 days.I've been to AC 3 times and have been so busy with broads that I don't think I have ever seen a pool there.
I have to admit I have not yet been to Angeles City my stops usually involve hook ups with chicks in Manila. I guess what I'm trying to understand is the major differences in the quality of chicks between the 2 cities. The understanding I've concluded is that Angeles has a huge quantity of working girls at a much lower price than manila, yet Angeles as a city of interest there's not much. Now I'm not a huge pay for play type a guy I enjoy actually convincing a women to sleep with me without the added monetary negotiations. My question is this if I'm not big on pay for play should I even venture to Angeles or stay in Manila? Now I'm not against pay for play but she really has to be above average in the appearance, I'm not into banging a bunch of 7's on the cheap, I'd prefer to pay top dollar for a 10.
Fast Eddie 48
01-07-13, 22:28
Don't foget to consider Air Asia too.
I have taken these 3 budget airlines many times. They are about the same. The things you need to look for in deciding which one to take:
1. Price: They all have promotion prices which is very cheap. However, I can never understand how these prices are posted. For example, a promotion price for a certain date will be available if you book early, then may not be available for a month or so, then suddenly is available again. Perhaps the sale of tickets for that date did not do well.
2. Schedule: They fly the same routes but at different times. If you are only transiting in Bangkok, KL, or whatever city, you don't want to spend half a day in the airport waiting for the next flight. However, do not book the connecting flight too close in time to the preciding flight. If that flight is delayed and you miss your connection, you are screwed. I always give 4-5 hours. Most planes are delays for 2-3 hours.
Good luck.To Funman,
I did check with Airasia fare cost is much higher than Seaair and is not a direct flight, CP is cheap but the flight is very late at night.
Transporter
01-07-13, 23:30
I have to admit I have not yet been to Angeles City my stops usually involve hook ups with chicks in Manila. I guess what I'm trying to understand is the major differences in the quality of chicks between the 2 cities. The understanding I've concluded is that Angeles has a huge quantity of working girls at a much lower price than manila, yet Angeles as a city of interest there's not much. Now I'm not a huge pay for play type a guy I enjoy actually convincing a women to sleep with me without the added monetary negotiations. My question is this if I'm not big on pay for play should I even venture to Angeles or stay in Manila? Now I'm not against pay for play but she really has to be above average in the appearance, I'm not into banging a bunch of 7's on the cheap, I'd prefer to pay top dollar for a 10.In time it all comes down to attitude.
The less tainted are more abundant
but it's worth the extra $5 for a girl that won't rob you and is checked for sti's once a week.angeles city process of checking the girls is laugh. ask the girls and you will crumble in stitches. it consist of a visual inspection of her vagina and vulva. safe to say, you can spot some sti`s visually but most you can't. with the vigorous way they douche their pussies after peeing or showering, a vaginal discharge will need an hour to accumulate.
the clinic guys at hygiene do a swab test which l doubt is checked properly due to the large numbers of girls attending daily. th levels of hiv in the philippines are rising especially in clusters with the huge percentages to be found around the areas which cater for sex. with all the bare backing going on in angeles and the philippines as a whole, an hiv explosion is soon to be announced. the levels in angeles are rising but due to no proper hiv awarenes and testing program, it will be a while before the full extent in known.
condom use in the philippines has increased slightly with now more girls asking me first to use a condom unlike l asking as she is about to dip it in uncovered. its when you keep the girls for longer that the "trust" builds and condoms are no longer asked for. hiv testing in angeles is low if existent so by the time one is diagnosed, they would be ill with opportunistic infections years down the track having infected others.
check out this link.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/53308/makati-not-among-6-ph-cities-most-at-risk-of-hiv
I have to admit I have not yet been to Angeles City my stops usually involve hook ups with chicks in Manila. I guess what I'm trying to understand is the major differences in the quality of chicks between the 2 cities. The understanding I've concluded is that Angeles has a huge quantity of working girls at a much lower price than manila, yet Angeles as a city of interest there's not much. Now I'm not a huge pay for play type a guy I enjoy actually convincing a women to sleep with me without the added monetary negotiations. My question is this if I'm not big on pay for play should I even venture to Angeles or stay in Manila? Now I'm not against pay for play but she really has to be above average in the appearance, I'm not into banging a bunch of 7's on the cheap, I'd prefer to pay top dollar for a 10.If you are not into pay for play then AC is not for you. Manila girls tend to speak better english, can hold conversation better, are more fun especially if manila native and know some cool places to show you. In AC you will struggle to find action without paying unless you are asian. Yes its possible, but its MUCH harder then elsewhere. Bottom line is there is stigma to a girl being seen with foreigner especially if there is a large age gap. In AC simply everyone assumes she is a working girl. Most natives don't even want to hang around with girls from other provinces as they assume they were / are bar girls hence why come to AC over Manila.
Having said all this I do recommend you visit AC. There is 8 and above to be found in the bars, high end KTVs and discos. Pay for play has its own advantages, just as banging regular girls.
If you are not into pay for play then AC is not for you. Manila girls tend to speak better english, can hold conversation better, are more fun especially if manila native and know some cool places to show you. In AC you will struggle to find action without paying unless you are asian. Yes its possible, but its MUCH harder then elsewhere. Bottom line is there is stigma to a girl being seen with foreigner especially if there is a large age gap. In AC simply everyone assumes she is a working girl. Most natives don't even want to hang around with girls from other provinces as they assume they were / are bar girls hence why come to AC over Manila.
Having said all this I do recommend you visit AC. There is 8 and above to be found in the bars, high end KTVs and discos. Pay for play has its own advantages, just as banging regular girls.thanks a million Mc Don I think I'll visit a weekend just to check it out but keep to manila.
Irish Yogi
01-09-13, 04:59
If you are there for a while I suggest you bring some gear with you. I have a bag of goodies from Thailand and elsewhere that I keep in Phils. As for the girls most will wear the costumes, no problem with that. Once they feel comfortable they will be up for it. I got few that I use in AC and manila and I find it far more fun then in Thailand because here I can teach and mold them to what I like. AC can be far more fun then what your first impression will be, but it gets better the more time you spend there.Thanks Mc Don, you have cheered me up to no end. Still smiling to be honest.
thanks a million Mc Don I think I'll visit a weekend just to check it out but keep to manila.Do it the other way around if you can. You want to be in Manila for the weekend (most hotels are cheaper on the weekend) and lot more things to do in Manila for the weekend especially if you are not into pay for play (discos, bars, malls, concerts, gigs etc). There is more girls out on the weekends as well.
In AC everyday is really a weekend. You will find that Friday and Saturday are maybe 5-10% better then a weeknight. Even on a Monday you will have 1000 girls to chose from. Also there is lot less customers during the week which is another advantage. Its easier to find accommodation too, the high end hotels will require you to book on the weekend but during weekdays you can at times just walk in ABC or LGH.
Even on a Monday you will have 1000 girls to chose from.Agree fully with the posting, but 1000? I'd say on a Monday 5000, Saturday maybe 7000.
Agree fully with the posting, but 1000? I'd say on a Monday 5000, Saturday maybe 7000.AC girls never get a day off. So if it is 5000 on Monday it is the same on Saturday give or take a few who are kept by some punters long time.
AC girls never get a day off. So if it is 5000 on Monday it is the same on Saturday give or take a few who are kept by some punters long time.Whatever. Then 6000 any day.
I'm not big on pay for play should I even venture to Angeles or stay in Manila?Are you one of those guys that gets it for free there?
For most of the gals, I'm guessing they don't have a scheduled day off. Nevertheless, I've spent time with gals on their "day off". I think there is a lot of flexibility depending on the bar.
AC girls never get a day off. So if it is 5000 on Monday it is the same on Saturday give or take a few who are kept by some punters long time.
Nevertheless, I've spent time with gals on their "day off". I think there is a lot of flexibility depending on the bar.I was told by several girls, that they have one day off per week. But this off-day is during eg. Sunday to Wednesday only, Thursday to Saturday attendance is compulsory. Or similar.
They get one day off per week. Usually on that day they do the health check.
Ekspat is right, the number is probably around 5-7K. Few of the big 24hr bars have 3 shifts of 200+ girls per shift.
Latest trend that I have noticed is students working only the weekends. Last couple of trips I barfined girls that study in the near by school Monday to Friday and work Friday and Satrurday nights. Before this was really not possible or not common as they would be expelled if the school found out. I don't know what has changed or maybe it has been going on for a while but I just haven't noticed.
Has anyone rented a condo in angeles. I`m thinking of staying a month. And I like living in condos or houses. Rented one in pattay and hade a blast. Partys and shit. And staying at the ABC for a month is not cheep
I have been to AC many times over the last 6-7 years, always brought my swimming trunks, but never have time to swim. I have been following this thread for many years but cannot remember a posting of a pool party except private ones, I. E. Monger with his girls.
As for the other pool (table kind) , there is a serious following. You will find foreigners carrying cue stick bags walking around. I remembered several years ago meeting the foreign owners of Ponderosa Hotel going to a pool tournament. Also, there was a very famous Filipino cue stick maker who lived in AC. That was years ago, I don't know if he's still alive and / or still making them. So if you love to play pool, this will compliment your mongering. Don't get hussled though. Even some of the girls are very good.
I've been to AC 3 times and have been so busy with broads that I don't think I have ever seen a pool there.
Has anyone rented a condo in angeles. I`m thinking of staying a month. And I like living in condos or houses. Rented one in pattay and hade a blast. Partys and shit. And staying at the ABC for a month is not cheepMuppen1,
Try Bourbon Street Condotel you can contact them at info@rovimar.com And maybe get a better long term rate. It is located next to the Wild Orchid hotel and you have access to there pool and room service. Below is a link to there web site.
http://rovimar.com/rooms.php
FruitNinja
01-12-13, 18:21
Muppen1,
Try Bourbon Street Condotel you can contact them at info@rovimar.com And maybe get a better long term rate. It is located next to the Wild Orchid hotel and you have access to there pool and room service. Below is a link to there web site.
http://rovimar.com/rooms.phpI just did a quick tour of the Orchid today for future trips. Very nice place and the pool area is very nice. There were a lot of guys with their girls there and it's not really crazy hot. There is a corridor that connects the Rovimar t the Orchid I believe. Guy I was with has stayed there and said it's a good choice and reasonable. I thek the Orchid is about $110 and the rooms are nice. I'm at the Pacific Breeze which is cheaper ($60) and the rooms are not that much better at Orchid. It's my first AC trip but I like the location of the PB. Block fro the action with none of the noise.
FN
Are you one of those guys that gets it for free there?Free is questionable, if your asking whether I pay per sex session than no. I concentrate on girls with jobs, mall workers, receptionists, nurses etc. But I'm certainly paying more to go out on dates to dinner, movies, bars etc. Than the average monger. So, I would consider it casual dating just like I would do in the States but very affordable and the sex is certain. Of course most of these girls are looking for something serious so I don't get fleeced by them as long as I pick them well. Again I'm not against p4p and I have participated in it in Latin America but it's not necessarily my thing.
FruitNinja
01-12-13, 23:21
So now you get the short version.
Day 1. 4 of us rolled into the hotel at 1:30. Stuffed the valuables in the safe and head to Crystal Palace. Nice looking women. And lots of them. The first two cuties were either playing games or saw a sucker so I just told them to get! Worked a deal with a real hottie for a long session. Two other guys had girls so off we go to the hotel. We paid more than needed be (showcase girls) but we had been awake for over 24 hours. Get them, do them, and boot them. Mine was a nice ride. Give her a solid 8.
Got her back to the room and she showers for a good 1/2 hour which I a comfort. She comes out I take mine she looks for thing to steal. Just kidding. I get done and she's in bed waiting. Very nice three sessions with a 21yo 7+ After 3 times she's starting to get crumbly about leaving. I'm tires sated and totally ok with it. Good karma.
Next day we did some basic fridge stocking, Cheetos, Chips, Oreos and soda water. Walked into a few of the bars but nothing worth grabbing. Two guys pulled nice girls out of Lollipop with good results. Doll House and Alaska had plenty girls not a lot were for us so we ended up at Shooters. Smaller club but nice lookers. Three of us had girls in minutes the one from last night and we grabbed two more, one guy was tired and passed. Grabbed my shortie a swim suit for the pool. $7USD good value in a lot of ways. We romp once on getting to the room. Problem. She has BJ phobia. Why didn't I ask the obvious? Oh well We do bom bom, She is 4'8" maybe and her puss is tight for my middle finger. And I'm big. Half way in was it. But being so tight it make things interesting.
Out to the pool to party with all the others, eat food and drink. Good times. Back to the room for more tight bom bom and I let her go a little before the agreed time. Was totally ok with it being jet lagged and very sated. I have never ever see such tightness. Unbelievable.
Angeles City: If you haven't been it's laid out very nicely. No need to do much searching. It's there and in your face, Beggars but they are not obnoxious. There are also touts and people selling shit but if you don't pay them attention the get the idea. If it gets too much put up your palm they get it. Never felt like I was in any danger although not a huge police population seems safe. But as in any country pay attention. One guy was trashed beyond belief and had seven girls trying to help him walk. Wonder how that played out. Not sure good would be the answer.
Other observations: These girls are truly shy, it's not an act. Like every other woman in the world they have body image issues. You'll always do better telling them how pretty they are. Price point for LT (12hours) is anywhere from 750p to 300p (18-73 USD) One of the guys grabbed a 8 750 off Blow Road. I'm very jealous and told him if he cuts he loose cut her my way. She's been a great help negotiating and negotiating. And she's just a bunch of fun.
All in all I like it. The girls are nice but as in any mongering situation remember its her job to get value out of you. Whether $$ or stuff so don't be stupid. The drunk guy is going to wish he hadn't had a drink when he sees his place after the girls have gone I'm sure.
My first time here. Virgin or Cherry? I like it. Will be in Pats soon to do comparison but one guy is a regular so I'll get the lowdown before I leave. Definitely nice traveling in a big group. Two more friends will be up tomorrow. 6 friends and a girl. Got to be a movie in that. Should be fun.
Pricing is all over the place. Blow Row girls are 750 for LT. Nice bar spotlight girls are 3000. 1500 and 1800 in between. Probably go a little lower if that's your thing but you can also go a lot higher if you want that Cherry girl.
If I get a chance I'll post a few pics. I need to work a better game with pictures here. I do well in US just have to find what makes them comfortable.
It's better here!
I know Chris Long is back from his first trip to AC. I am impatiently waiting for his report.
I know Chris Long is back from his first trip to AC. I am impatiently waiting for his report.It won't take Long.
Pip Jaeger
01-14-13, 10:06
My first time here. Virgin or Cherry? I like it. Will be in Pats soon to do comparison but one guy is a regular so I'll get the lowdown before I leave. Definitely nice traveling in a big group. Two more friends will be up tomorrow. 6 friends and a girl. Got to be a movie in that. Should be fun.
If I get a chance I'll post a few pics. I need to work a better game with pictures here. I do well in US just have to find what makes them comfortable.
It's better here!FN,
Thanks for the FR, looks like you're off to a running start. Looking forward to seeing some pics in the PG.
I just did a quick tour of the Orchid today for future trips. Very nice place and the pool area is very nice. There were a lot of guys with their girls there and it's not really crazy hot. There is a corridor that connects the Rovimar t the Orchid I believe. Guy I was with has stayed there and said it's a good choice and reasonable. I thek the Orchid is about $110 and the rooms are nice. I'm at the Pacific Breeze which is cheaper ($60) and the rooms are not that much better at Orchid. It's my first AC trip but I like the location of the PB. Block fro the action with none of the noise.
FNFN,
Bourbon Street Condo / Rovimar is a separate hotel from the Wild Orchid. They are connected by a corridor but have two different reception areas for check in. I think you checked the wild Orchid rooms they are around $110 a night for the newer rooms. Bourbon Street Condo room are $55 to $70 for a Studio room and $80 to $100 for their 1 bedroom.
EJ
FruitNinja
01-16-13, 01:57
FN,
Bourbon Street Condo / Rovimar is a separate hotel from the Wild Orchid. They are connected by a corridor but have two different reception areas for check in. I think you checked the wild Orchid rooms they are around $110 a night for the newer rooms. Bourbon Street Condo room are $55 to $70 for a Studio room and $80 to $100 for their 1 bedroom.
EJI've been told that that the condos are nice. I like the location of the Pacific Breeze.
FruitNinja
01-16-13, 01:58
Out the other night with 4 guys. Interesting night. We lost one of the guys as he had taken a bar hostage for the day. He did show up at the hotel with a stunner and an entourage of friends from the bar. It sounds like it was a party to remember. Albiet a $700 party but you only live once. One of the the guys holed up in his room with a new girl. Looks like he's going to be MIA for a while.
That left 4 of us. Headed out and had a nice dinner at Tequila Reef. Decent meal but I wouldn't go there again on principal. Whole nother story.
We started hitting the bars on fields. We started at one end and worked our way. I couldn't wait to get to Atlantis as the girls were supposed to be hot. I'll admit that they are but it seemed to me that they were pretty stuck up and waiting to land a big fish. Definitely seems more geared to lady drinks and silly ass ballon games to seperate you from your money. The mama san seemed a little arrogant. I asked her about a few girls and got the same answer. Translated I think it meant "They are waiting for a rube with a small dick." No offense but they are looking for Koreans. On principal I wouldn't pull from there. One guy did pull a girl out of there. Stunner. We lost him for the night. He reported today that he got what he wanted and set her free.
I think we started at Club Asia and we probably should have just stayed there. I also liked Emperor's Lounge for the ambiance, music and lighting. Will be going to these again tonight. Dollhouse was ok. Lollipop I didn't care for the atmosphere. There was a place close to Club Asia that was on the third floor. The talent there scared me. At that time it was just me and another long time monger. He was drunk and everything looked good but I think getting us out of there was my best contribution to this trip. There was nothing there I would touch with a 10' pole. We lost one of the guys at Body Work. He hasn't been heard from since. There was alcohol involved.
Our last stop was China Club and as it was quite late the talent had dwindled but there were still a lot of green number girls. I caught the eye of one of them and she just stared me down until I motioned her over. Mamasan was fun and we stayed for a few lady drinks and some fun. I've never seen any girl handle a blow job shot like my girl. Holy shit! I headed to the hotel with my new spinner friend. My long time crazy ass, party animal, stay out late friend stayed to dance, bark at the moon, and drink with the girls. Many will know who he is by that description. I understand he closed the place.
My girl turned out to be a bundle of fun. A little tight so it took a little work but all was good. Very responsive and getting her off first paid good dividends for the rest of the night. She stayed until about 9 at which time I cut her loose with a nice tip. We were both happy. Today we did a little walking around and looking at the availability in the afternoon but nobody pulled anything.
Two maybe three guys are officially MIA. Me and the two new guys are going to see what kind of trouble we can get into tonight.
Fast forward a night.
Club Asia. My girl from last night is all smiles. We have a few drinks and I grab her and one of her fiends. Back to the hotel and we have a good old time until about 3 am, I cut them both loose and try to fall asleep. That doesn't work so I head out to the bars to see if I could find something to calm me down. Fortunately I come to my senses and go back and finally get some sleep.
Fast forward a night.
My barking friend and I are leaving so a large group goes out for the night. Half the guys have dates from the night before. I'm tired and pull a cute spinner waitress from the fist bar. We all end up at the Karaoke bar above Tequila Reef. Lo ts of drinks and lots of fun. I bail and back to the hotel with cutie that proceeds to tear me up. WOW!
FruitNinja
01-16-13, 01:59
Some random thoughts: The Pacific Breeze is perfect both in amenities and location. The rooms are more than adequate for the task at hand. The wifi sucks. Some of the guys said cat-5 was better but I've got a Mac Air and the connection is some reduced form of cat-5. Fuck you Tim Cook. I also made a huge mistake assuming that a Mac version of a Windows picture editing program would be the same. Posting pics has been cumbersome.
There is definitely an over abundance of Koreans here and they are the favorite sons of the girls. I was shut down quite a few times."I don't go with foreigner." seems to be taught at hooker school. What they mean is they don't go with anyone not Korean. Offered one girl a hefty tip and she was still a no go. Best is to ask the mamma san about the girl you're interested in and if she goes with foreigners otherwise you're going to waste a lot of lady drinks. Good for the girl and the bar, not so for your wallet. The hotter the girl the more likely she doesn't bar fine, is cherry, or only goes with Koreans. Don't waste your time there is no shortage. I've been here for a few days and had at least one girl a day, two on two days. My cock needs a day off.
There are a lot of touts and random people selling shit and begging. It's not a big deal. Don't make eye contact and keep walking. A stern "no thank you" if they persist. Quite frankly it's worst in Mexico in straight tourist areas. I'm well traveled and know how to be careful and at no time did I feel unsafe here. There's always the story, but if you exercise good judgment you'll do fine.
I had a cavity and stopped in at a dentist. Actually asked a masseuse across the street form the Breeze and she had her friend walk me there. You wouldn't get that treatment in the US so be nice to these people. Full set of xrays, complete cleaning, one cavity repair, and four receding gum line repairs were a total of $91. In the states I pay $150 for a cleaning. They did an excellent job and the dentist was pretty, l so I had the added bonus of fantasizing about my cock in her mouth and wondering what it would be lik to be a Philippine pool boy.
There's something definitely likable about the Filipinas. They are playful and fun. If you treat them with respect and bargain up front you will have fun. And if they really like you. Look out! The one that's sleeping next to me near tore my cock off last night.
Over all the first trip to Ac was a success. Learned some good lessons and plan on returning soon.
WestCoast1
01-16-13, 02:21
Great field reports. Other newbs pay attention.
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