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Pete Benetar
02-28-13, 16:07
I'm flabbergasted PB.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/eduardo-saverin-isnt-the-only-rich-guy-defriending-the-us/257087/LOL, don't be so flabbergasted X and I don't feel too apologetic about being OT since Tax Policy here in the US is what funds the Femi Fascists from Team USA now deployed worldwide.

The uber rich BTW are a tiny blip on the overall tax exodus situation thanks largely to a fairly onerous exit tax on all financial assets iimposed on the individual by the IRS. No such imposition is set on corporations which is where the REAL exodus has taken place. Off shore havens continue to protect individuals who stay in the US. I know Saverins has been the poster boy for elites exiting the US, but the benefits are overblown (Forbes link) and in any case of the 1760 most are middle class and upper end income earners and not the uber elites.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/05/17/eduardo-saverins-current-tax-saving-67-million-and-it-could-be-a-tax-loss-in-the-end/

Jimmy Boy 99
03-02-13, 20:28
I posted this in the Angeles City Hotel thread but received only one response (thanks X Man). Perhaps fewer people read that thread than this one, so I am posting it here to hopefully get more responses. Thanks.

"I have the option to stay in an executive room at the Pacific Breeze, a superior room at the Royal Amsterdam, and a king-bed room at the Best Western The Mint in April for about the same price. For those who are familiar with these hotels, how do the rooms and facilities compare. Do you have any recommendations as to which to stay at and why? Thanks"

Mr Enternational
03-02-13, 20:55
"I have the option to stay in an executive room at the Pacific Breeze, a superior room at the Royal Amsterdam, and a king-bed room at the Best Western The Mint in April for about the same price. For those who are familiar with these hotels, how do the rooms and facilities compare. Do you have any recommendations as to which to stay at and why? Thanks"I stayed in PB last month. For my tastes the lighting was too damn dim and there was no window to let in sunlight. I was staying at the sister hotel Central Park before that. Not sure why it says this on the website: "Thank you for visiting our website and considering a reservation at the Central Park. The Central Park Hotel is currently closed for renovation/expansion and will not re-open until sometime after the 2013 new year." It appeared that the entire building was demolished and was going to be nowhere near up and running in 2013.

Pete Benetar
03-02-13, 21:25
Do you have any recommendations as to which to stay at and why? Thanks"I stayed at the Amsterdam in one of the jacuzzi suites and thought it was good for the price. I recall it was about 60 or 70 USD per night, though that was about 18 months ago. My reservation expired a few days before my trip ended as the Royal Am was booked tight and I made my reservation late, but if you don't mind seedier locations (clean though and a certain, um, ambiance) there are plenty of places you can get a room along Fields even when the other more popular places are booked.

The place below had interesting mirror locations and stripper murals along the wall and was a above a strip bar tow the perimeter end of Fields.

Socker
03-03-13, 00:05
I do not look forward to the economic maybem the day there is a substantial cut in the credit rating for the US and / or the Chinese et al disontinue financing the bloated US Govt, but I do look forward to the absurdities of many haywire domestic and foreign policies getting cut off at the knees.

Show me some good stats on those uber elites renouncing citizenship and I might believe you. Freedom anywhere is proportionate to the amount of wealth one controls and that is certainly true of the USA. The main driver of expatriating uber wealth anywhere is most often over issues of taxation. In the US most wealth is created in capital or equity / stock markets which is always taxed at lower rates than earned income. Capital gains taxes maxed out at 15% last year and bumped up to 20% in 2013 going forward. Make a million in profit on selling your stocks and you pay roughly half the income rate upper end earned income taxpayers do. Earn a few hundred million or even a billion as several hedge fund managers do any given year trading other peoples money, then use the carried interest loophole and pay half the tax rates as the people who are actually working for a living. Take 10 or 20 million USD in salary as a Fortune 500 CEO and use stock options for 90% of that pay and voila, you halve your tax rate. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir and most of this SHOULD be common knowledge, but it is all very, very favorable to the uber wealthy.

The wealth is used to employ high end legal teams with top media contacts to control PR and most importanly to finance political operatives called congressmen, senators or even the President directly through contributions or through K street lobbyists. Many of these 7 figure per year lobbyists and high level corporate execs are also former bureaucraps who are looking to exchange their 100K per year govt job for the golden rainbow from Wall St and Corp America, providing the most opaque and pervasive form of corruption. These bureaucrats are beholden to any potential source of future income (a / k/a "captured"). Altogether, the uber elites in the US have freedoms most of us could never imagine.

Generally speaking the uber wealthy are very happy living in the USA.Very well said re the beginning of the end.

Donnylad
03-03-13, 10:32
Arrived slightly later than expected. Had booked at a place called Rumi Appartelle, just off the main road in the area it is called Don Juico Ave. Little bit away from the main action but not a prob. Even had some adult dvd channels but didn't seem to be functioning after 1st day. Paid 1300 for a better room. There was even a large window between the bathroom and the bedroom. Did have a few delays in getting room cleaned once but staff and service generally good. Extra towels weren't a prob but can't remember if they charged for them. Also offer free shuttle service to the main strip or any location in that area, subject to availability. By the time I had got dinner, it was about 9pm. Decided to check out the 'FL bars' that I had heard about on the forum that were at the end of Raymond St. Arriving at these bars I noticed that the ladies are of varied quality, but the biggest point is that these all have bar fines. So, by my definition, these are not FL bars. I headed back to the main road and didn't notice Phillies at that time. Somehow I ended up at Cuba sports bar. There were 2 young ladies at the bar and one of them soon introduced herself and her friend soon left. Surprisingly, she was not offering her services. Good conversationalist and hot. Can't remember much else about her. Turns out her friend was actually a ladyboy. She told me about Paradise and Phillies and actually escorted me to Paradise. Not much action there. As I refused to pay bar fines, at that stage anyway, I ended up walking back along the strip all the way to Phillies. Not sure why I had probs finding a girl that night. At this point I will say that AC presented a couple of phenomena that I had never experienced before. Firstly, it raised the issue of identifying which girls are actually available. This is actually an artform that I never fully perfected and resulted in a couple of embarrassing situations, but I never got punched! Secondly, with so much talent around, I found myself getting really picky. Anyway, I ended up settling for a dark, petite, slim, elf-like girl standing on the drag just outside Phillies. Think her name was Rose and I might have got her for 700 for 2 hrs. Back in the room, her tits were small but a bit droopy. Usual effects of having a child. Already shaven and pussy nice. Tattoo on her left calf. Got a bit temperamental about photos etc so didn't push it. Service was average from what I remember. Offered the preggo commission and she seemed promising in being able to arrange something. I called it a night.

Next day I was back on the strip from late morning. Was amazed at the action available even at that time! Yet again all the establishments I had sourced at that time (the sports bars. Cuba / Paradise / Phillies) drew a blank. I soon realised that there are always a gaggle of street girls by Phillies, near the 'walking st' barrier at that end of the strip. I ended up going for an older looking, slim, fairly tall lady. I think I might have got her as low as 500 + tip. She turned out to be one of the best I had as she was easy-going, caring and open to instruction. Body was decent given her age (late 30's) and semi shaven. No tatts. Oral technique was one of the best. Gave her a decent tip and figured I may see her again. As she didn't have a mobile, preggo commission was difficult to arrange. Later that night, Rose called to say she had a preggo girl. Turned out to be a pretty young (18ish) , light skinned thing who didn't speak good english. Rose assured me she was ok with everything. Started off ok with photos etc. Oral on her was fine but as sooon as oral on me started, she started feeling 'sick'. It got ridiculous and ended up with me letting her go but not paying the full fee. I also informed Rose and that her commission would not be happening. As it was late, I called it a night.

Next day, again the hunt wasn't as successful as I had hoped. I'm surprised that Rose still contacted me despite the previous night's debacle, but she must have done in order to offer me another preggo girl. Again she assured me things would be fine. The girl showed up at my room in the afternoon and was also light skinned and pretty, but tall and quite sturdily built. Mid 20's. Spoke good english but was not as far gone as I would have liked. Tits were reasonable size but droopy. Also semi-shaven. Yet again, everything was fine till giving me oral. This time, she refused to satisfy my slightly unusual oral requirements, claiming Rose had not explained this. I have this bad habit of getting all principalistic in these situations. Gave her an ultimatum of a cut price offer if she left then or completed the job for full fee. She refused both and got aggressive. Ended up with her sitting in the wardrobe and appearing to want to snap off the doors. Then she started going on about the photos and that she wanted them deleted. Ended up calling the hotel staff. They said she would go to the police about the photos. Pretty sure it ended up with her taking a lower fee and making all kinds of threats. Rose was annoyed with the outcome and I never heard from her again. My fussy manner meant that I struggled to get more action throughout the evening. I had got some advice from expats I spoke to about there being better action more towards my hotel than on the main part of the strip. So, after dinner, I positioned myself on the main road in the area where there are loads of shops and a lot of locals. Other selection issues that are present in AC are trying to work out if certain ladies are working or not or if they are FL or working at a club. Also, the ladyboy issue is there too. Saw loads of preggo ladies but not working. Also quite a few hotties who did not respond to my efforts. This was from about 11pm onwards. I must admit that I find picking up ladies in this way quite difficult. Anyway, there was only one really skinny, older looking woman who I got to a reasonably advanced level of negotiations with. However, the 2 hrs was a deal breaker for her but I think there were iother reasons. To cut a long story short, after 3 hrs a young, slim, petite, pretty girl dressed fairly modestly walked past and she responded to my attentions. Negotiations were short as her english wasn't amazing. Turned out she had recently arrived from the provinces. Early 20's. Prob paid average FL price. Body decent but tits a bit flat. Shaved pussy. No tatts. Oral seems to have been fine, but there was a problem somewhere along the line and she left in acrimonious circumstances. Must've underpaid her due to the probs and she ended up giving me death threats from her 'brother'. I was never seriously worried but still shook me a bit. Got me a but disillusioned with FL's. Called it a night as it was late.

Next day was my last fully day so I figured I would probably entertain the idea of a club girl. Went to Cuba early. Sat by the road watching girls walk by. Started chatting to these Ghanaian guys living in Manila. During this time we all noticed this young stunner walking along with a friend. She was petite but appeard to have this huge rack. The Ghanaian guy was bolder than me in shouting out to her. She smiled but carried on. Turned out she was working in a bar further down Santos st from Cuba. I will say at this point, the couple of bars opposite Cuba seemed to have quite a few nice girls in them. Can't remember any of the bar names though. Anyway, the Ghanaian guys suggest we go to that bar. I think the main guy was determined to get me laid with the hottie! At the bar we all had beers and I was talking to the hottie. Turned out she was from Manila and working there secretly etc. We agreed a deal but she didn't want photos of her face. Can't remember how much the fine was but don't think the total was much more than I was paying for FL's in Manila. Before we left, both the Ghanaian guys went for short time on premesis with the girls they picked. Back at my place, the light skinned, petite hottie in her early 20's undressed. The tits were disappointingly smaller than had appeared but reasonable size and pert with a nice shape. No tatts. Wasn't perfectly shaven but didn't bother shaving. Really nice manner and submissive. Oral wasn't perfect but made all efforts possible. Decent experience.

Headed back to the strip afterwards. I tried looking for the older lady from couple of days before near the barrier, but another girl told me she wasn't around. The girl I spoke to seemed decent but didn't want to do a deal then. Asked her about preggo gals and she said she could arrange. Made sure it wasn't either of the gals Rose arranged. Decided to check out a place the Ghanaian guy told me about called Margaritas. When I got there I recalled seeing it before but the mesh on the outside put me off. Inside there was no sign of the Ghanaian guys. Saw a preggo bar maid but obviously not an option. Must say at this point that, surprisingly, I saw a preggo gal working the door at a bar just a couple of doors down from Phillies but she wasn't too keen on ST. Claimed that her colleague was also preggo and would do ST but she looked just fat! At Margaritas played pool with a nice Aussie guy and chatted. No action though. In the evening I watched the ladies Aussie tennis final with some Amderican expats at Cuba and even had a bet! I lost though. Yet again all the sports bars hit a blank and as I briefly had entered a bar / club earlier and saw the prices, I decided not to bar fine again. I decided to hit Margaritas again. The Aussie guy was still there and I joined him and his mates. One of his mates had his young fiancee there from Manila and I chatted to her for ages. She was not yet 20 and he in his 50's. A typical example of the diverse couples in that part of the world. Nice guy but I still felt concerned for her future as I feel it will end in tears. She was really nice to me. Anyway, as time passed I felt the day would end as a damp squib. I was about to leave when I noticed a young lady who was sturdily built with sharp facial features walking upstairs from the restaurant area. Presumed she was with someone so watched as she headed to a seat against the wall that overlooks the pavement outside, by the meshing. She was on her own but figured a guy would show up soon. After a few mins, no one did show up! So, I took my chance and headed over. I can't remember the exact conversation, but a deal was struck fairly quickly. Usual story. Single mother. Now, another fetish I have is for breast milk. I had offered all girls for commission to hook me up with a lactater but none had been able to. However, from previous experience in Asia, I always felt that I would inevitably come across a girl who was feeding a baby. So far I hadn't. When in conversation, it came up that she had a 4 mth baby, I immediately got excited that she might be feeding but didn't ask about it.

Back at my place, she was well proportioned with nice skin and her tits were heavy and not pert but nipples big. Fully shaven with no tatts. When it came to sucking her tits, she told me she had milk. She was very obliging when I told her I loved milk. Unlike most women in this condition, she was happy to give me as much milk as I wanted without any concern! Awesome. Oral on her was great too. The thing that reall stood apart though was her oral techniques. One of the best ball suckers I had during the whole trip, let alone the Philippines. However, her very wet and sloppy technique came to the fore with the blowjob. She actually started deepthroating and gagging herself! Bit annoyed I don't seem to have got any video of this. The sex wasn't amazing due to her size though.

On my last day I decided to check out some of the Aussie Day celebrations. Decided to head to Margaritas. The Ghanaian guy was there so chatted about the day before. Says they were still at the bar when my girl got back. They didn't talk about it or anything. I told him about her rack and also about the girl from the night before. Noticed one nice looking single gal there. Had wanted to get one more session in before leaving. To complicate matters, the street girl I tried to arrange a preggo girl with the day before txtd to say she had a gal. Due to time restrictions, I rejected that idea and went with the gal at the bar. She actually walked out and I had to intercept her on the street. Like always, negotiations were short. This one was petite, light-skinned but plumpish. Tits turned out to be firm with small nipples. Semi-shaven with a sexy tramp stamp. Not the most experienced or uninhibited of girls though. Think she had a problem with my oral requirements but remember it being a very average experience. Also started regretting turning down the preggo gal as it probably wouldn't have taken that much longer to get her at my hotel. Oh well. Enough time for packing before heading to airport.

Apologies for the length of this report, but this was my most prolific destination from a mongering point of view. In hindsight, I wish I hadn't been so fussy and taken it all for granted a bit. Like the rest of the trip, I didn't have as many girls as I had hoped for, for various reasons. Unusually though, budget issues were not one of them. In general, I was disappointed at the lack of anal action and piercings (especially tongues). On the positive side, DFK in some form or other was available in most cases. In closing, I have to say that my stance in eternal mongering debate about Philippines vs Thailand is that there is no competittion at all. For me, Philippines wins hands down and AC is the jewel in the crown. Simply one of the most unique mongering destinations I have been to with bizarre characteristics that are part of the allure. I think the main reason for my view is the sheer number of adult females under 5' high is incredible! As I am short, I do like short ladies. I will stop rambling now. I hope this is of some use, but as always my position on posting photos remains the same.

Donnylad
03-03-13, 10:43
Decided to post photos of the AC gals that caused trouble with me. Payback of sorts.

Jiayu
03-03-13, 10:46
Arriving at Clark Airport and need to get to Manila.

Any bros have contact for a reliable cheap driver to drive me to Manila?

Many thanks

Western787
03-03-13, 15:35
this is not about the us having jurisdiction in the philippines. obviously it has none. it pertains rather to the right of the us to prosecute its citizens (when they're back in the us) for violations of us law committed in another country. us law enforcement has a presence here. the fbi maintains an office at the us embassy, and other enforcement arms of the us government may do so as well. these operate with the concurrence of the government of the philippines.

geunder the protect act (p. l. 108-21) passed in 2003, and using special extra jurisdictional powers modeled after similar jurisdictional powers claimed in other legislation (anti terrorist legislation), it is a crime in the united states (with up to 30 years in prison) for any citizen or resident of the u.s. (generally 21 or over) to have sex with any person under the age of 18 anywhere in the world, regardless of the particular laws applicable in the foreign jurisdiction, and regardless of whether one knew or didn't know the actual age of such person.

currently in the usa over the last several months there has been an unfolding scandal with senator robert menendez (d-nj chairman of the ways and means committee), one of the most powerful politicians in the united states, involving (among other items) potential violations (alleged sex with **** dominican prostitutes) under the protect act, and the irony is senator menendez when he was a congressman in new jersey back in 2003 actually voted yea on this bill.

the united states justice department in the past has actually paid the expenses of and flown "victim" witnesses into the usa to convict in such cases, but here since we have a democrat with a heavily politicized (pro democrat)justice department, so its going to look extremely hypocritical if the evidence continues to build, and he is not prosecuted at some level, when for example a phillipine bar owner may well be prosecuted under the same act. while there could be at some point potential appellate level jurisdictional issues (the right to prosecute for crimes committed outside of the usa), there have been no successful challenges to this law in the cases presented so far.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/24/long-time-escort-confirms-senator-bob-menendez-paid-her-for-sex/

BionicMan
03-03-13, 15:52
Under the Protect Act (P. L. 108-21) passed in 2003, and using special extra jurisdictional powers modeled after similar (claimed) jurisdictional anti terrorist legislation, it is a crime in the United States (with up to 30 year in prison) for any citizen or resident of the U.S. (generally 21 or over) to have sex with any person under the age of 18 ANYWHERE in the world, regardless of the particular laws in the foreign jurisdiction, and regardless of whether one knew the true age of such person.Right! As simple as that. People tends to forget that even if they leave their own country they are still subject to its jurisdiction.

This makes a lot of sense, of course.

Western787
03-03-13, 16:15
Right! As simple as that. People tends to forget that even if they leave their own country they are still subject to its jurisdiction.

This makes a lot of sense, of course.In fact there are serious legal issues presented with this kind of claimed super extra territorial jurisdiction which may make sense for terrorism but no much else, however seeing Senator Bob Menendez potentially forced to eat his own cooking, will probably be worth it.

Attorney General Holder I believe has pushed his luck too far already, and I don't think he will be able to dance around this one to save Menendez, because this scandal is headed for the stratosphere once the Russian prostitute (who was flying the world in Melgen's private jet) goes public and starts talking, because she was among other things acting as type of procurer. Her cash cow Dr Melgen will soon be out of cash, so she's going to be looking for other ways to cash in. She now has a lawyer, but surprisingly its not Gloria Allred, at least not yet, which is the one she would pick for maximum exposure.

BrainDrain
03-03-13, 21:29
Arrived slightly later than expected. Had booked at a place called Rumi Appartelle, just off the main road in the area it is called Don Juico Ave. Little bit away from the main action but not a prob. Even had some adult dvd channels but didn't seem to be functioning after 1st day. Paid 1300 for a better room. There was even a large window between the bathroom and the bedroom.Thanks for the detailed report. In AC anything can be achieved.

Ekspat
03-04-13, 03:29
Arriving at Clark Airport and need to get to Manila.Immediately after touchdown? Just take the Philtranco bus outside the airport. 450ps and quite reliable.

Cheers!

Ekspat
03-04-13, 03:41
Arrived in AC and went over to SM to get some things. From what I saw, the prices for beer hasn't changed (yet) , a can of SMB or Red horse is still around 30ps and the bars have still the same prices for drinks as well. BUT! For smokers, the price of cigarettes has almost doubled! Not quite, but at least a plus of 60-70 percent. Box of Marlboro is 70ps in SM now. Ooops!

Hehe, but still a fun place, right?

Cheers!

ZipGun6
03-05-13, 00:55
Hi All,

Just going to give a Bullet point AC / Manila update late February early March 2013. Full disclosure, I have not been to AC in about 6 months.

- Customs at MNL airport has improved. I. E. New booths, and better staffing. I breezed thru in 2 minutes.

- Manila airport pickup and transportation to AC in a car cost 2700p thru Pacific Breeze. Lewis Grande wanted 3150p. This included all tolls.

- Hotel room availability is getting limited in AC, especially on the weekends. Many fly ins for weekend fun from Malaysia and Korea. Make your reservations in advance if you want a top hotel.

- Lots of new construction projects going on. I. E. American Hotel new addition. Also near Swiss Chalet a big hotel is going up. I believe on the old site of Central Park hotel. Also on Clark free zone, it appears a huge new factory is being built.

- Toured the new Penthouse Condo / Hotel, near Swiss Chalet in AC. It looks like it will be Very nice. 50 units for rent. 35 units for sale. Great location! Suppose to be done in May 2013, but I think that is a bit optimistic (this place has been under construction for it seems 5 years)

- Overall talent IMHO in AC was very poor, but if you have to go to just 2 bars for best talent go to Forbidden City, or Golden Nile.

- Atlantis / Dollhouse in days past always had the best looking women. IMHO, not anymore.

- One new Bar near Forbidden city called the Viking. Talent there was so so.

- High Society was dead except on the weekends.

- Traffic is much worse than the last year on Fields. If you are staying down by Lewis or ABC and going to walking street at 6-9 pm, don't bother to take a trike, it will be faster to walk.

- Restaurant has improved at Lewis Grande, but the hotel overall is starting to get a bit shabby all ready I. E. Stained dirty carpets moldy shower curtains. The ABC new addition is very NICE. But a bit pricey IMHO at about $135 USD a night for a base unit.

- There is a new "pavillion" in back of Lewis Grande, and there was a wedding or event there about 4 nights a week. This translated to making the "walk of shame" a bit more painful going past the wedding party and wedding guests.

- I never had any problems with "runners" etc. Overall girls attitude the same, (NOT more mercenary)

- Air Asia has discontinued flights from Clark to Puerta Princessa. If you want to go Clark to Boracay you must go thru Kalibo, then a 3 hour bus ride to Caticlan.

- EDSA entertainment complex in Manila had more talent in one bar (Firehouse) than I saw in AC in 10 days. 1600p barfine 2500-3000 p for the girl after.

- Customer traffic at EDSA was very light, even on a weekend at 8-9 pm I was only customer in the bars (except Firehouse)

- Cafe Havana in MNL is Jammed on the weekends, go early if you want a table.

- Taxi ride Makati to MNL airport was the same at about 170p. Departure tax was 550p.

- Off topic. A big HELLO! To all my Medellin Mansion Amigos. ! .

INGAT

Topmanten
03-05-13, 08:38
Hi,

I like to go to AC from Manila, I prefe car, as I have some heavey bags, any idea how much a normal taxi will cost or is there is any special car rentel agency with driver for Manila-AC trip.

Appreceate your help, will post soon on Manila and AC trips.

TMT

NikCool10
03-05-13, 12:07
Hi friends,

Its my 1st trip to AC and Manila, can you suggest some good options for stay, I was looking online for PB, but they are not available during those days, has anyone tried Orchid Inn resort or Kokomos hotel? I was thinking of orchind inn resortat1800 / night, but I am not sure about the location, as its my 1st time, I am looking to stay in the central area, walkable from all the action spots? Kindly suggest some options, also which are the top bars to visit for top quality? Ik.

In manila which is the most central place to stay? And any places of action? Or is it better to stay in AC most of the days and just do a day's trip to manila? Is it worth staying in manila?

Thanks

Cheers!

Nik

Irony Monger
03-05-13, 17:12
Its my 1st trip to AC and Manila, can you suggest some good options for stay, I was looking online for PB, but they are not available during those days, has anyone tried Orchid Inn resort or Kokomos hotel? I was thinking of orchind inn resortat1800 / night, but I am not sure about the location, as its my 1st time, I am looking to stay in the central area, walkable from all the action spots? Kindly suggest some options, also which are the top bars to visit for top quality? Ik.I have not stayed at either the Orchid or Kokomos. However, the big question is do you want a pool, and what are your cost limitations if any? There are plenty of hotels around that cater to all preferences, but we need more info before we can help you.


In manila which is the most central place to stay? And any places of action? Or is it better to stay in AC most of the days and just do a day's trip to manila? Is it worth staying in manila?Manila is just different from AC. If you have time I would recommend spending a day or two there to get the feel for it, but if you are just looking for bar mongering then AC is probably your best bet, though to be honest you will probably get tired of that after 3-4 days. As for where in Manila, probably either Makati or Ermita / Malate. In Makati, I would recommend the St. Giles hotel, as it is a well run place, not too expensive close to some bars but also attractive to non-pros. In Ermita I have only stayed at the Best Western La Corona. See my review in the Manila Hotel's thread from last week for details.

Irony Monger
03-05-13, 19:23
Hi, I like to go to AC from Manila, I prefe car, as I have some heavey bags, any idea how much a normal taxi will cost or is there is any special car rentel agency with driver for Manila-AC trip.If you are going to stay in Manila first and don't mind taking a van with a few other folks, the Fly the Bus service from the Swagman hotel is a cheap and efficient way to get there (PHP 600, but their website might be out of date)

http://www.swaggy.com/index-bus-service.php

Trips leave 3 times per day. One word of advice though, the Swagman travel folks don't respond well to emails in my opinion. If you have questions or want to book a reservation, call them or better yet show up at the Swagman Hotel in person to make arrangements.

But maybe you prefer private transport. I've never taken a normal taxi, but have used the Margarita Station car service which will pick you up or drop you off right at the airport. Also, any hotel in AC should be able to arrange airport pickup from Manila, but if they charge more than PHP 3000 for private transport I would just use Margarita Station instead.

http://www.margaritastation.com/oets.html

Ej2208
03-05-13, 19:51
Hi,

I like to go to AC from Manila, I prefe car, as I have some heavey bags, any idea how much a normal taxi will cost or is there is any special car rentel agency with driver for Manila-AC trip.

Appreceate your help, will post soon on Manila and AC trips.

TMTI normally take Action Travel for P 2, 500.

http://www.actiontravelac.com/airport-transfer-service.html

California8
03-06-13, 00:18
This bar is close to ABC Hotel. I was seated near the door but the girls dancing do not move around on the stage so I moved to another table so I could see the girls on the other side of the stage. Mamasan approached just as I reseated. She offered up a new girl so I said I will talk to her. She went outside and brought in one of the door girls, I had just walked past them on my way in so did not even notice them. Cute enough and had all of the right answers to my questions but it was her first day on the job. I declined buying her a drink as I still wanted to check out the girls on this side of the stage. Finally I decided to go for the new gal and went outside to call her in. Standing next to her was a younger prettier one so I switched and pointed to this other one. The original door girl said 'she is my sister and is a cherry girl so she does not go out. ' Shucks. Oh well, we have a drink inside and then off we go. This first day girl said she was shy but she certainly was not inexperienced. She performed quite well and indeed stayed until morning.

I was curious about her sister. 19 and never had a boyfriend. Never even kissed. Must have been a protective father. Big sis asked in the morning if I would take them both out but only to teach the little sis how to do blow job, not ready to lose her cherry and of course, big sis would be there to be sure she protected her. Had a flight later in the morning so as tempting as the offer was to CIM in a virgin mouth and DATY another virgin hole, no time. Or was it just a story? Just the same, they will make a good bit of change from whomever gets to break that cherry.

Cal8

California8
03-06-13, 00:28
One night, took out a girl from Alaska. 1800+ EWR, actually I think I got a tray full of drinks. She says 19 and working for 7 months, she sold her cherry for 50, 000 after one month on the job. Not sure if she got the full amount or that is what the monger paid.

Once in the room no DFK and asked to give BBBJ only as she may bleed. I giggled and said that there is an extra towel in the bathroom I can lay under her on the bed so don't worry. No problems after that but I am guessing that she is only trying this because she has gotten away with it before.

Cal8

Sammon
03-06-13, 01:18
Hi,

I like to go to AC from Manila, I prefe car, as I have some heavey bags, any idea how much a normal taxi will cost or is there is any special car rentel agency with driver for Manila-AC trip.

Appreceate your help, will post soon on Manila and AC trips.

TMTYou can stop any taxi and negotiate price for trip to AC. Some agree for 1800+tolls.

Capt Munch
03-06-13, 01:38
From my experience. Otokoto Car & Van Rentals operated by Jun Pineda was efficient and priced competitively at 2300 php car price inclusive of tolls and gas. They have options larger vehicles and a van is 2800 php.

They have a current ad in the Blue Book. Phone numbers are Smart # 0912-416-6661 and Globe # 0915-701-7777.

I have used this service and was met at the NAIA airport by Jun. He does have other drivers as well.

CC.


Hi,

I like to go to AC from Manila, I prefe car, as I have some heavey bags, any idea how much a normal taxi will cost or is there is any special car rentel agency with driver for Manila-AC trip.

Appreciate your help, will post soon on Manila and AC trips.

TMT

NikCool10
03-06-13, 03:53
I have not stayed at either the Orchid or Kokomos. However, the big question is do you want a pool, and what are your cost limitations if any? There are plenty of hotels around that cater to all preferences, but we need more info before we can help you.

I think pool would be good and also my budget would be around 3000 pesos / day.

Manila is just different from AC. If you have time I would recommend spending a day or two there to get the feel for it, but if you are just looking for bar mongering then AC is probably your best bet, though to be honest you will probably get tired of that after 3-4 days. As for where in Manila, probably either Makati or Ermita / Malate. In Makati, I would recommend the St. Giles hotel, as it is a well run place, not too expensive close to some bars but also attractive to non-pros. In Ermita I have only stayed at the Best Western La Corona. See my review in the Manila Hotel's thread from last week for details.Thanks for the info on that, how is EDSA complex, (where is this?). Thanks for the recommendations on both places, I am thinking of staying in Makati. How is ayala shopping or other places to shop generally in free time or any night market areas? .

Also is it easy to get FLs in Manila?

Thanks for the info

Cheers!

YG365
03-06-13, 12:05
Thanks for the info on that, how is EDSA complex, (where is this?). Thanks for the recommendations on both places, I am thinking of staying in Makati. How is ayala shopping or other places to shop generally in free time or any night market areas? .

Also is it easy to get FLs in Manila?

Thanks for the info

Cheers!EDSA sucks in my opinion because of the cost vs quality and service. How are we suppose to tell you where EDSA complex is? I can tell you it's in Manila. All of this stuff, you can find easily by searching for it or googling it.

YG

Irony Monger
03-06-13, 16:53
Thanks for the info on that, how is EDSA complex, (where is this?). Thanks for the recommendations on both places, I am thinking of staying in Makati. How is ayala shopping or other places to shop generally in free time or any night market areas? .Also is it easy to get FLs in Manila?

Replying in the Manila thread, because that is where the answer belongs.

Greek Niko
03-07-13, 14:59
Punter Alert! From my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in AC, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the Police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, The Police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a US Doctor in AC had a similar complaint made and his room raided by NBI, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

Another report in is same situation in Manilla.

It seems the girls and P. Lice have found a way to exploit us more.

Have your guard up fellow inmates.

Rick Rock
03-07-13, 22:13
Hi friends,

Its my 1st trip to AC and Manila, can you suggest some good options for stay, I was looking online for PB, but they are not available during those days, has anyone tried Orchid Inn resort or Kokomos hotel? I was thinking of orchind inn resortat1800 / night, but I am not sure about the location, as its my 1st time, I am looking to stay in the central area, walkable from all the action spots? Kindly suggest some options, also which are the top bars to visit for top quality? Ik.

In manila which is the most central place to stay? And any places of action? Or is it better to stay in AC most of the days and just do a day's trip to manila? Is it worth staying in manila?

Thanks

Cheers!

NikKokomos is to be avoided. Too much money for what are some small thrown together rooms above a go go bar. You'll get plenty of bell ringing, bass from the music and the sound of two dozen hookers dancing on a metal stage in high heels to go with your mosquitoes and sewage-smelling water with inboard heater. A little more will get you in Pacific Breeze. Worth the upgrade.

Sxxxx
03-07-13, 22:40
Punter Alert! From my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in AC, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the Police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, The Police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a US Doctor in AC had a similar complaint made and his room raided by NBI, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

Another report in is same situation in Manilla.

It seems the girls and P. Lice have found a way to exploit us more.

Have your guard up fellow inmates.This might become a new way for girls to increase their income, threaten P Lice action?

Its not worth the risk guys, game up, whoring scene is becoming more sanitized each year.

Thank you Greek Niko, Greeks are friendly affable people, proven once again. You might have saved some guys necks. Warning appreciated. Now we head to Harry the Horse, to see what he has got to say, LOL.

PinkPearl
03-07-13, 23:41
Punter Alert! From my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in AC, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the Police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, The Police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a US Doctor in AC had a similar complaint made and his room raided by NBI, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

Another report in is same situation in Manilla.

It seems the girls and P. Lice have found a way to exploit us more.

Have your guard up fellow inmates.There is no "guard up" to guard you against shit like this happening, except to stay the hell out of dirt bag countries like PI!

Doggage
03-08-13, 03:30
Punter Alert! From my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in AC, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the Police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, The Police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2,500,000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a US Doctor in AC had a similar complaint made and his room raided by NBI, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

Another report in is same situation in Manilla.

It seems the girls and Police have found a way to exploit us more.

Have your guard up fellow inmates.Guys,

Suggest that you use an encryption program like DriveCrypt and encrypt the picture folder, they will never know.

Key Master
03-08-13, 04:57
Punter Alert! From my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in AC, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the Police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, The Police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a US Doctor in AC had a similar complaint made and his room raided by NBI, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)Can you report where they said they found them from? Club? I assume in AC.

Screaming Beaver
03-08-13, 13:37
punter alert! from my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in ac, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, the police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a us doctor in ac had a similar complaint made and his room raided by nbi, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

another report in is same situation in manilla.

it seems the girls and p. lice have found a way to exploit us more.

have your guard up fellow inmates.i would not believe this story for a number of reasons. first of all, the 2. 5 million peso fine is ridiculous. also, the nbi does not shake down tourists. they are too busy shaking down the bar owners. it's usually a low level police officer who is working with a street girl that will come knocking on your room door claiming she is ****. if you are stupid enough to get caught in that sting the cost will be more like a thousand bucks. unless greek can provide more detailed information, i would suggest his post is bullshit.

Chocha Monger
03-08-13, 14:41
I would not believe this story for a number of reasons. First of all, the 2. 5 million peso fine is ridiculous.Good point, Screaming Beaver! Most mongers do not even have a net worth of 2. 5 million pesos. They would have to opt for incarceration in lieu of such a fine. That would defeat the purpose of setting them up for a squeeze.

FruitNinja
03-08-13, 15:13
Good point, Screaming Beaver! Most mongers do not even have a net worth of 2. 5 million pesos. They would have to opt for incarceration in lieu of such a fine. That would defeat the purpose of setting them up for a squeeze.Https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=angeles+city+&oq=angeles+city+&gs_l=news-cc. 3.43j43i400. 1358. 5940. 0.6584. 13. 5.0. 8.1. 0.79. 310. 5.5. 0.0. 0.1ac. 1. AIPg3ErEdvg

Screaming Beaver
03-08-13, 15:19
Most mongers do not even have a net worth of 2. 5 million pesos.I've met a number of mongers who save every nickel they have throughout the year for that two week vacation to Angeles City. They comb the internet looking for the cheapest time to travel even if it means their journey will be thirty hours including layovers. They travel in jeepneys, buses and Swagman shuttles. They sleep in the cheapest room they can find. They eat the cheapest food available including an occasional fertilized duck embryo egg called balut selling for eight pesos. They negotiate three hundred peso short time trysts with the street meat. How in the world is the NBI going to extort two million pesos from that guy?

Western787
03-08-13, 22:36
punter alert! from my trusted wingman is a report that this week a personal friend of his in ac, a senior monger, finished with a girl and she ran to the police on a complaint of her being photographed by him, the police take him into custody seize his computer and charge him with pornography, a fine of 2, 500, 000 pesos was imposed.

2 days ago a us doctor in ac had a similar complaint made and his room raided by nbi, upon discovering the nude pics on his computer, he was charged with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

another report in is same situation in manilla.

it seems the girls and p. lice have found a way to exploit us more.

have your guard up fellow inmates.excellent report, and it reflects the world wide hysteria primarily being generated out of the usa onto the rest of the world, with ngo's and politicians aligned to create a new problem to solve, using half truths and distortions and to exaggerate whereever possible, with the msm rarely questioning these assertions,, and with some politicians in the usa, amazingly even including sen robert menendez who is now involved in an alleged situation with possible **** girls in the dominican republic, but is currently still being shilled for by the left wing msm, with mr menendez ironically one who voted for the original protect act in 2003 in the usa which provides for extra territorial worldwide jurisdiction for american authorities to prosecute for sex by any american (adult) citizen or resident with "**** 18" victims committed anywhere in the world.

the reality is the vast majority of mongers want nothing to do with under 18 females and in fact nearly all want such perpetrators prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but evidence that such cases exist on a wide scale systemic basis (especially in the usa where cases are nearly non existent) tends to be lacking, so thus the need for a much more expansive (age irrelevant) definition of "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)". there is also a new emerging term referred to as "self trafficking" where providers while apparently nominally giving consent to engage in certain acts are then presumed to be subconsciously induced into the trade against their will (with societal male constructs taking the blame) to engage in acts that (supposedly) no rational woman would ever be involved in.

i see this report from a few years back in manila where merely having a fish bowl is independent evidence of "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" saying: the presence of an “aquarium,” in which customers can view and choose a female worker was already an evidence of exploitation of women and constitutes a violation of the anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) law, libunao said. “the aquarium can be likened to a glass container where the women are being sold as commodity for sexual services to customers.”

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/62809/police-raid-ktv-club-in-makati-city-%e2%80%98college-girls%e2%80%99-in-sex-trade-rescued#ixzz2mzebwhpv

Western787
03-08-13, 23:09
I've met a number of mongers who save every nickel they have throughout the year for that two week vacation to Angeles City. They comb the internet looking for the cheapest time to travel even if it means their journey will be thirty hours including layovers. They travel in jeepneys, buses and Swagman shuttles. They sleep in the cheapest room they can find. They eat the cheapest food available including an occasional fertilized duck embryo egg called balut selling for eight pesos. They negotiate three hundred peso short time trysts with the street meat. How in the world is the NBI going to extort two million pesos from that guy?Aint that the truth, and a lot of this is because western feminists have turned many males into enuchs and taken over much of society, driving men to scrimp and save sometimes for years, just to have a few weeks to escape from being prisoners enslaved by these ballbusters.

Pip Jaeger
03-09-13, 01:42
i would not believe this story for a number of reasons. first of all, the 2. 5 million peso fine is ridiculous. also, the nbi does not shake down tourists. they are too busy shaking down the bar owners. it's usually a low level police officer who is working with a street girl that will come knocking on your room door claiming she is ****. if you are stupid enough to get caught in that sting the cost will be more like a thousand bucks. unless greek can provide more detailed information, i would suggest his post is bullshit.agreed sb, i'm back in ac now and yesterday i not only checked a few of the local papers and online ones, but i asked a couple of expats if they've heard anything about this. nothing! if these scams did in fact occur then imho word would be out, at least on the street. i strongly suspect that if true, it was fl's and not regular bar girls. and i'm sure there's more to it; like anything else we'll never know the full story.

even before reading that 'report' i, like many savvy mongers, use separate sd cards in my camera for mongering and regular tourist shots; and i don't store any of my mongering photos on my laptop. right after a girl leaves i swap cards and hide it. the card's easy to hide and if ever asked by an official for my camera for inspection i have no worries. but i actually go a bit further. as soon as it's convenient i upload my mongering shots to secure cloud based storage then i delete the photos and re-format the sd card. no trace left on the card and of course there's nothing on my computer too. perhaps i'm a bit paranoid, but the extra precautions only take a few minutes and give me peace of mind.

off a bit on a tangent, but re bar shakedowns i was speaking to one owner here the other morning over breakfast at the paradise beer garden. he told me about the latest scam hitting the bars. since the hotel fire in subic a pair of locals dressed in fireman's uniforms and posing as inspectors have been hitting some of the bars and small hotels (both here and in subic). they conduct inspections and naturally find minor violations. of course they offer to not issue summonses (or whatever they're called here) or report the violations in exchange for monetary compensation, lol. got to hand it to them for their creativeness.

Western787
03-09-13, 03:12
Agreed SB, I'm back in AC now and yesterday I not only checked a few of the local papers and online ones, but I asked a couple of expats if they've heard anything about this. Nothing! .

The country is now operating under a powerful new law. This is the just the beginning, and is a direct result of United States (now ex) Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's campaign not just to shut down actual
true "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" which every responsible person agrees is a serious crime and a scourge where and when it occurs, but in effect (among other things) to shut down (18 and over fully consentual) mongering in developing countries worldwide, with her efforts now already having a major impact on what is happening in Burma currently. The "Expanded Anti Trafficking Act in Persons Act of 2013" was just signed into law last month and is extremely expansive, and pretty much defines [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) as anything they decide it to be. By the way, none of these laws will ever impact (18 and over) mistress arrangements, so the very wealthy will never be impacted.

From the Phillipine Star on Feb 15, 2013

MANILA: President Benigno Aquino has signed Republic Act 10364, strengthening the country’s fight against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) by plugging loopholes in the existing law.

The government is hoping that the expanded law will improve the Philippines’ status in the US State Department’s Trafficking in Persons Report. Earlier, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, chair of the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking, said the Philippines had been upgraded to Tier 2 category in 2011 from the Tier 2 Watchlist.

De Lima said a Tier 2 status “is an important recognition of the country’s sustained and aggressive initiatives and programmes to eliminate [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).”

The Tier 2 status officially recognizes a country’s significant efforts to adhere to the benchmarks prescribed by the US State Department and meet the minimum standards.

“The signing of the new law will give the government a stronger weapon against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) syndicates,” De Lima said.

In signing the law expanding RA 9208 or “An Act to Institute Policies to Eliminate Trafficking in Persons especially Women and Children,” presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda said the President recognized the need to make the government’s fight against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) more effective. “This is a concern and a priority of the President and this measure will be enforced by the different agencies, especially the Department of Justice as well as our police agencies,” Lacierda said.

Lawmakers called on the President to immediately sign the Expanded Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act to address [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) in the country, particularly in disaster areas where women and children often fall victim. The expanded law is a strengthened version of the Anti-Trafficking Law, covering attempted trafficking. It has accessory or accomplice liability, covering more related acts and individuals. Recruitment in the guise of domestic or overseas employment for sexual exploitation, forced labour or involuntary debt bondage, can now be considered [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

Also included in the Expanded Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act are recruitment of any Filipino woman to marry a foreigner, engagement in sex tourism, recruitment for organ removal and recruitment of a child to engage in armed activities abroad.

The penalties and sanctions under the new law are now stiffer. Those guilty of trafficking can be sentenced to six to 40 years in prison and fines ranging from P50,000 ($1,200) to P5m ($120,000).


http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/philippines/225728-aquino-signs-expanded-law-against-[CodeWord909] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord909).html

Chocha Monger
03-09-13, 03:12
I've met a number of mongers who save every nickel they have throughout the year for that two week vacation to Angeles City. They comb the internet looking for the cheapest time to travel even if it means their journey will be thirty hours including layovers. They travel in jeepneys, buses and Swagman shuttles. They sleep in the cheapest room they can find. They eat the cheapest food available including an occasional fertilized duck embryo egg called balut selling for eight pesos. They negotiate three hundred peso short time trysts with the street meat. How in the world is the NBI going to extort two million pesos from that guy?If there is some Filipino guy out there working for NBI who can extract 2. 5 million pesos from the typical Angeles City monger, I would like to meet him. The first thing I would tell him is that someone with his talent is wasting his life squeezing skinflint mongers in that cesspool. He could be making millions of USA dollars by contracting out his extraordinary skills as a debt collector for the IRS, IMF, Fortune 500 companies, and international criminal syndicates. His powers of persuasion would also be in demand by numerous intelligence agencies looking to squeeze information out of tough terrorists and enemy agents.

Screaming Beaver, we need to name this mysterious NBI agent, The Alchemist. Obviously, he has discovered the secret of the philosopher's stone and is now able to turn base mongers into millionaires.

Western787
03-09-13, 04:08
If there is some Filipino guy out there working for NBI who can extract 2. 5 million pesos from the typical Angeles City monger, I would like to meet him.Installment payments like someone buying a washing machine.

PinkPearl
03-09-13, 04:32
If there is some Filipino guy out there working for NBI who can extract 2. 5 million pesos from the typical Angeles City monger, I would like to meet him. The first thing I would tell him is that someone with his talent is wasting his life squeezing skinflint mongers in that cesspool. He could be making millions of USA dollars by contracting out his extraordinary skills as a debt collector for the IRS, IMF, Fortune 500 companies, and international criminal syndicates. His powers of persuasion would also be in demand by numerous intelligence agencies looking to squeeze information out of tough terrorists and enemy agents.

Screaming Beaver, we need to name this mysterious NBI agent, The Alchemist. Obviously, he has discovered the secret of the philosopher's stone and is now able to turn base mongers into millionaires.Getting back to the original report, as distinct from the above wet dream imaginations, it spoke of 3 people scammed. 2 in AC. 1 in Manila. 1 a senior monger and one a US doctor.

Let's get this discussion back on topic, instead of the above nonsense.

BTW 2, 500, 000 pesos is a mere 5 figure amount in USD, far from what the vast majority of ISG members would consider a "millionaire".

Screaming Beaver
03-09-13, 10:25
Let's get this discussion back on topic, instead of the above nonsense.A better question might be why does a clown like Pink Pearl post on this site based on the fact he's admitted he's never been to Angeles City, Manila or anywhere else in Phils. Isn't there something else he can do with his time other than trying to live vicariously through other posters on this site.

Greek Niko
03-09-13, 11:41
i would not believe this story for a number of reasons. first of all, the 2. 5 million peso fine is ridiculous. also, the nbi does not shake down tourists. they are too busy shaking down the bar owners. it's usually a low level police officer who is working with a street girl that will come knocking on your room door claiming she is ****. if you are stupid enough to get caught in that sting the cost will be more like a thousand bucks. unless greek can provide more detailed information, i would suggest his post is bullshit.sorry mr. beaver but i have many other ways to entertain myself than post a bs report. my information came directly to me from a trusted and true friend / source who knew the first senior monger who was levied a 2. 5 fine, my source was present during the nbi raid on the dr, witnessing it by the medgar, and received the info on the incident directly from the nbi.

it was a monger courtesy to share the info with fellow inmates.

Slippery
03-09-13, 14:22
Getting back to the original report, as distinct from the above wet dream imaginations, it spoke of 3 people scammed. 2 in AC. 1 in Manila. 1 a senior monger and one a US doctor.

Let's get this discussion back on topic, instead of the above nonsense.

BTW 2, 500, 000 pesos is a mere 5 figure amount in USD, far from what the vast majority of ISG members would consider a "millionaire".Yes, a "mere" $60, 000. 00. WTF?

Wicked Roger
03-09-13, 14:58
A better question might be why does a clown like Pink Pearl post on this site based on the fact he's admitted he's never been to Angeles City, Manila or anywhere else in Phils. Isn't there something else he can do with his time other than trying to live vicariously through other posters on this site.SB.

You put it so nicely and I would think he has likely never been to Thailand either which recently he claimed he was posting from. Me thinks he is a one handed typist who can't get any in the USA and likely would not get laid in AC either. Really sad muppett LOL

Chocha Monger
03-09-13, 18:27
A better question might be why does a clown like Pink Pearl post on this site based on the fact he's admitted he's never been to Angeles City, Manila or anywhere else in Phils. Isn't there something else he can do with his time other than trying to live vicariously through other posters on this site.Screaming Beaver,

As another senior member asked, why hasn't Pink Pearl been banned? By his own admission he has never been to the Philippines and claims that he posts information gleaned from research but he never cites any of his supposed reliable sources with references. This Code Pink member is dedicated to spreading mass hysteria about the Philippines in a vain attempt to scare foreigners away. This is the kind of behavior we would expect from a woman. Pink Pearl is either a she or a highly hysterical gay living vicariously from the posts of mongers. Her aim is to spread disinformation and irrational fear amongst mongers. If there is a scary rumor about the Philippines you can bet that Pink Pearl will appear on the scene to blow things out of proportion and out of context. Her other agenda is promoting outlandish safe sex measures like slathering virgin coconut oil on ones bell end while falsely claiming it prevents HIV transmission.

Chocha Monger
03-09-13, 18:31
Sorry Mr. Beaver but I have many other ways to entertain myself than post a BS report. My information came directly to me from a trusted and true friend / source who knew the first Senior monger who was levied a 2. 5 fine, my source was present during the NBI raid on the Dr, witnessing it by the Medgar, and received the info on the incident directly from the NBI.

It was a monger courtesy to share the info with fellow inmates.Is the senior monger or the doctor the guy in this news report?

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/provincial/45369-american-in-fbi-watchlist-arrested

FruitNinja
03-09-13, 18:35
Getting back to the original report, as distinct from the above wet dream imaginations, it spoke of 3 people scammed. 2 in AC. 1 in Manila. 1 a senior monger and one a US doctor.

Let's get this discussion back on topic, instead of the above nonsense.

BTW 2, 500, 000 pesos is a mere 5 figure amount in USD, far from what the vast majority of ISG members would consider a "millionaire".I can guarantee if a US doctor was arrested that would make front page. And where is the coverage of the trail. And who is this trusted senior monger. You just can't come here and say Rome is burning without evidence.

FN

PinkPearl
03-09-13, 18:45
Sorry Mr. Beaver but I have many other ways to entertain myself than post a BS report. My information came directly to me from a trusted and true friend / source who knew the first Senior monger who was levied a 2. 5 fine, my source was present during the NBI raid on the Dr, witnessing it by the Medgar, and received the info on the incident directly from the NBI.

It was a monger courtesy to share the info with fellow inmates.I've read of many similar accounts.

This type of scam involving a shakedown of foreign punters by PI authorities (e. G. Police) & their accomplices is nothing new. Quite old actually, going back over at least a decade.

Reports of such incidents include those with online PI girls from dating sites, streetwalkers, and even bargirls.

It could easily occur anywhere in the PI. Angeles City bargirls are not angels and not immune from being criminals in such affairs involving pooners' being arrested, blackmailed & forced to hand over their assets, or else.

Dante2
03-10-13, 01:21
I don't think its that out of the question that a cop would start the bidding at 2. 5 mil for your freedom, what does he have to lose by opening with that high of a number? Nothing, yet he has everything to gain

All it takes is one guy to bite and he just made 10 years salary in 20 minutes (after he meets up with the girl to give her the 2, 000 that she will no doubt be happy with)

He can still drop down to 100, 000 or 50, 000 pesos and get that if thats all thats available, but no reason not to go for the gold at first

Screaming Beaver
03-10-13, 01:39
As another senior member asked, why hasn't Pink Pearl been banned? By his own admission he has never been to the Philippines and claims that he posts information gleaned from research but he never cites any of his supposed reliable sources with references.I'm surprised this PinkPearl [Deleted by Admin] has been able to rack up nearly 1100 posts without being banned. This would be like me posting on ISG in the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, Africa section all the while telling everyone I have not been there and have no intention of visiting. Shouldn't there be some kind of code of ethics if you are posting in the Phils section such as having some experience there?

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were largely antagonistic. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. Thank You!

Screaming Beaver
03-10-13, 02:03
My information came directly to me from a trusted and true friend / source who knew the first Senior monger who was levied a 2. 5 fine, my source was present during the NBI raid on the Dr, witnessing it by the Medgar, and received the info on the incident directly from the NBI.Greek Boy, unless you can give some credible backup information to your friend's wild run in with the NBI which resulted in him paying 2. 5 million pesos, I would say your fabricated story belongs in your brother's behind.

Chocha Monger
03-10-13, 02:24
bi to deport us sex convict.


march 04, 2013.

immigration agents have arrested a convicted american **** wanted in the us for failing to report his whereabouts and activities to federal authorities. bureau of immigration (bi) commissioner ricardo david jr. said earl lynn bagley. 60, was arrested last feb. 4 at the robinson's mall in ermita, manila by operatives of the bi fugitive search unit. david disclosed that bagley is the subject of an arrest warrant issued last november by a us district court in washington due to his failure to update his registration as a sex offender.

'we will thus deport him not only for being an undesirable alien but also because he is already overstaying and undocumented, ' the bi chief added. it was learned that the american's passport was revoked by the state department and that he did not extend his tourist visa since he last arrived in the country on april 17 last year. david said the fugitive will be deported as soon as the bi board of commissioners issues the order for his summary deportation. according to atty. ma. antonette mangrobang, bi acting intelligence chief, bagley's offense stemmed from his failure to update his registration as a sex offender mangrobang explained that the registration is a system in the us designed to enable authorities to keep track of the residence and activities of sex offenders. all 50 us states have reportedly passed laws requiring sex offenders, especially child sex offenders, to periodically report their residence upon leaving prison or after being convicted of their crime. various websites on sex offenders revealed that on oct. 29, 2004 a seattle court sentenced bagley to 51 months custody, including three years of supervised release, on charges of possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. his supervised released reportedly began on september 2007 and ended on august 2010#

Chocha Monger
03-10-13, 02:38
I'm surprised this PinkPearl dick has been able to rack up nearly 1100 posts without being banned. This would be like me posting on ISG in the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, Africa section all the while telling everyone I have not been there and have no intention of visiting. Shouldn't there be some kind of code of ethics if you are posting in the Phils section such as having some experience there?PinkPearl believes that whatever he / she reads about a given place on the internet is a truthful representation of the locale. Therefore he / she / it takes the position that any actual experience is unnecessary because everything can be experienced vicariously via the internet. PinkPearl believes that this 'research' makes him / her even more qualified than an expat or frequent visitor to the Philippines. PinkPearl is a Philippines mongering expert because he jacked off while reading ISG at a Holiday Inn last night.

PinkPearl
03-10-13, 03:09
i can guarantee if a us doctor was arrested that would make front page. and where is the coverage of the trail. and who is this trusted senior monger. you just can't come here and say rome is burning without evidence.

fni can guarantee you many similar incidents occur in the pi & are never reported in the media. that a doctor is allegedly involved in this case is of no relevance in that regard whatsoever, although it does suggest an obvious reason why he would be a target.

who would want the story on the "front page"?

the nib who is blackmailing him? no.

the girl who is his accomplice? no.

the tourism authority of pi? no.

the doctor who is the victim? not if he doesn't want friends, family, employers, gfs or a wife, etc, to find out what he's been up to. or a bullet to the brain, perhaps.

the government of pi? lol.

the press? who's going to tell them? are they beyond corruption, muzzling & censorship in the pi? who do they bow the knee to?

the fact is there have been other similar reports of blackmailing scams involving pi authorities working with pi girls, whether via streetwalkers, dating sites or bar workers, so the recent report here shouldn't surprise anyone, let alone be lightly dismissed. don't be so naive as to think it can't happen with a bar worker you take out on ewr, because it could easily occur in this corrupt country & probably has already.

but it is understandable how certain isg members who may have business interests in the pi would try to muzzle the truth & call for those who speak it to be banned, since obviously they are not in favor of freedom of speech, or protecting other members from disaster, or making their own informed decisions, but only care about their own selfish bottom line. that's my theory.

"there in the lobby are 4 policeman and the [bar]girl (was crying) i had the night before. the cops said we're taking you to our headquarters for questioning. i said for what! they said this girl said you raped her. i said to myself "i'm being set up!" "

Chrisde99
03-10-13, 12:59
Will be arriving in Angeles in April. I have the following questions:

1. Does ABC hotel have a bar and if they have girls there what is the barfine?

2. Which is the closest bar to ABC hotel of quality?

3. Which is the safest money changer near ABC hotel and are they open 24 hours?

4. Is SM mall close to ABC hotel?

5. Best bar to get a threesome. Any recommendations?

6. Is it safe to walk to the perimeter bars during daytime and is it worth it?

Thanks in advance.

Slippery
03-10-13, 15:02
I'm surprised this PinkPearl dick has been able to rack up nearly 1100 posts without being banned. This would be like me posting on ISG in the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, Africa section all the while telling everyone I have not been there and have no intention of visiting. Shouldn't there be some kind of code of ethics if you are posting in the Phils section such as having some experience there?Well this is a real pissing match by two Nobel candidates. Screaming Beaver vs. Pink Pearl. You boys have fun.

FruitNinja
03-10-13, 16:20
i can guarantee you many similar incidents occur in the pi & are never reported in the media. that a doctor is allegedly involved in this case is of no relevance in that regard whatsoever, although it does suggest an obvious reason why he would be a target.

"there in the lobby are 4 policeman and the [bar]girl (was crying) i had the night before. the cops said we're taking you to our headquarters for questioning. i said for what! they said this girl said you raped her. i said to myself "i'm being set up!" "are you saying that a court levied that fine? is that possible? and how can a bar girl cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and that go over in court. i mean if the guy has 60k which is no great sum of money he certainly has enough to hire an attorney. just seems weird that all of the sudden we have a rash of these things going on. i was in ac a little over a month ago. met a dia girl with no i'd, she looked young and i passed.

i say if she agrees to pictures the first pictures you take is of her i'd and then some pictures of her hamming it up, having fun. hard to cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) when you're posing naked and smiling.

bottom line, you are in a foreign country, you are not omnipotent, use some common sense if you want to stay safe. if you're with a wingman make sure he hears the girl talk about what she's going to do back at the hotel. make sure the mamasan is in on the negotiations. i've met a lot of drs over the years.

if it's a dia girl i'm sure you have the emails and discussions of what is expected so you have proof.

if you're pulling form the street i don't know what to tell ya.

but you can't post something like this and not expect people to want to see proof. three of these things happened and one concerning a dr. the dr one would be huge news. the feminazi's have their ears to the ground just looking for more ammo in their fight to keep men's cocks in their pants. i just find it hard that all three missed the news. the whole country is in on it?

WestCoast1
03-10-13, 17:32
Will be arriving in Angeles in April. I have the following questions:

1. Does ABC hotel have a bar and if they have girls there what is the barfine?

2. Which is the closest bar to ABC hotel of quality?

SNIP.

6. Is it safe to walk to the perimeter bars during daytime and is it worth it?

Thanks in advance.Chris, your last half dozen posts are all questions. Its taking with no giving. Please go to AC, post some detailed field reports, then ask questions.

In fact, of your last several pages of posts, they are either questions, quick comments ("she's awesome!") , requests for girl's contact info, or desire to meet up. Where are your FR's?

WC

WhatsUrName
03-10-13, 17:42
Will be arriving in Angeles in April. I have the following questions:

1. Does ABC hotel have a bar and if they have girls there what is the barfine?

2. Which is the closest bar to ABC hotel of quality?

3. Which is the safest money changer near ABC hotel and are they open 24 hours?

4. Is SM mall close to ABC hotel?

5. Best bar to get a threesome. Any recommendations?

6. Is it safe to walk to the perimeter bars during daytime and is it worth it?

Thanks in advance.Hi I stayed in the ABC hotel last month and had a ball! Its pricier than the other hotels, but I thought it was worth it. You only live once. Please see my review in the AC Hotel Thread.

PinkPearl
03-10-13, 17:50
But you can't post something like this and not expect people to want to see proof.I'd suggest you educate yourself by reading the many reports of similar incidents on sexwork dot com. Then you might begin to understand that such blackmailing scams are a way of life in PI and have been occuring for many years. The ones announced on a forum like this or a site like that are only the tip of the iceburg.

Meanwhile, until you can prove the reports aren't true, I'd recommend staying the hell out of PI, & have sex with girls in another country that is relatively far safer.

OTOH if you love this country too much & feel that you are willing to chance being caught up in such a ripoff or what might occur to you in a PI jail or prison, and feel it your sacred duty to help the poor girls of this country via your donations, then best of luck. You can cut your personal dangers to a minimum by having a very good self defence plan going in & always being on high security alert while there.

MichelinBoy88
03-10-13, 21:03
1) ABC is a nice and pricey place to stay but far from the main street. I'm guessing if you are asking all these questions, you haven't been there. The walk to Fields is about 10-15 min but ABC can take you down there and pick you up. ABC does have a bar by the pool where you can BF but it's pretty expensive and the experience is a hit / miss from all those I've talked to that went that route. I think they told me they were quoted 3000+ I only stayed there but never bothered with the girls at the bar in the hotel. Have you considered Fields Plaza Suites? Its at the other end of Fields close to all the action by McDonalds and across from Jollybees. http://fieldsplazasuites.com/

2) Bar Quality is subjective. All depends on what you are looking for? Some like the small places where some like the grand layouts.

3) Money Changers are all over the place. Just go down fields and there are a few Money Changers as well as an ATM at Paradise Garden and futher down by 7-11 / McDonalds. Just don't be flashing big wads of cash and draw attention to yourself.

4) SM Mall is close. You can see it across the street aways from ABC I think.

5) Almost all bars have girls that will do a threesome. The question you are not asking is which one will go with another girl and actually bisexual.

6) It's plenty safe to me. I go down there for a looksee early afternoon and perhaps get a ST in before night time.

Hope that helps. Just joined the site and thought I share what I know.


Will be arriving in Angeles in April. I have the following questions:

1. Does ABC hotel have a bar and if they have girls there what is the barfine?

2. Which is the closest bar to ABC hotel of quality?

3. Which is the safest money changer near ABC hotel and are they open 24 hours?

4. Is SM mall close to ABC hotel?

5. Best bar to get a threesome. Any recommendations?

6. Is it safe to walk to the perimeter bars during daytime and is it worth it?

Thanks in advance.

Pip Jaeger
03-11-13, 01:18
Will be arriving in Angeles in April. I have the following questions:

1. Does ABC hotel have a bar and if they have girls there what is the barfine?Yes / Alot. RTFF.


2. Which is the closest bar to ABC hotel of quality?ABC's a hotel, not a bar. At any bar YMMV. RTFF.


3. Which is the safest money changer near ABC hotel and are they open 24 hours?The ATM's in lobby / Yes. RTFF.


4. Is SM mall close to ABC hotel?Google maps, earth view = search it. RTFF.


5. Best bar to get a threesome. Any recommendations?There are several / Yes, several. RTFF.


6. Is it safe to walk to the perimeter bars during daytime and is it worth it?RTFF / YMMV

Dante2
03-11-13, 03:58
Chris, your last half dozen posts are all questions. Its taking with no giving. Please go to AC, post some detailed field reports, then ask questions.

WCDo you not realize how ridiculous what you just said was?

The guy has never been there, all he can do is ask questions for now, unless you want him to be another pink pearl or rick rock and just make stuff up, he has nothing to give at this point.

You want him to go there without getting any help from here, wing it, then after that he is allowed to start asking questions?

What does his asking some questions hurt by the way? Wasted precious internet space? Its easy enough to skip through his posts if you don't like them.

WestCoast1
03-11-13, 06:56
Do you not realize how ridiculous what you just said was?You are entitled to your opinion, and I mine.


You want him to go there without getting any help from here, wing it, then after that he is allowed to start asking questions?Yes. And no. He should get help in PM; we have many expats and board regulars for that. The phils boards are for posters of field reports (first). Questions can be asked after. Please don't confuse the phils thread with those of Tijuana, Ghana, or Rio, or Columbia. If you search the gent in question's posts, you will see he has few, if any, field reports. None in phils (he's a newb) , going back dozens of his posts none in Thailand nor India (his haunts). He's a taker. He's asked over 2 dozen questions in the phils threads recently, and dozens more in the india / thai threads, all without posting descriptive FR's. Nor does he post many pics. My statement stands.

Ekspat
03-11-13, 09:36
The walk to Fields is about 10-15 min but ABC.Less than that. I'd say around 5 minutes.

Best bar very close to ABC is IMO Pony Tails.

FreebieFan
03-11-13, 09:45
I'd suggest you educate yourself by reading the many reports of similar incidents on sexwork dot com. Then you might begin to understand that such blackmailing scams are a way of life in PI and have been occuring for many years. The ones announced on a forum like this or a site like that are only the tip of the iceburg.

Meanwhile, until you can prove the reports aren't true, I'd recommend staying the hell out of PI, & have sex with girls in another country that is relatively far safer.

OTOH if you love this country too much & feel that you are willing to chance being caught up in such a ripoff or what might occur to you in a PI jail or prison, and feel it your sacred duty to help the poor girls of this country via your donations, then best of luck. You can cut your personal dangers to a minimum by having a very good self defence plan going in & always being on high security alert while there.This guy always provides a laugh. I think "tool" is the best and most current term for such a fellow.

Makeupaname
03-11-13, 10:25
I'd recommend staying the hell out of PI.Considering PP admits he has never been within 1000 mile of PI, at least he does follow his own recommendation.

Fredje1961
03-11-13, 13:18
You can cut your personal dangers to a minimum by having a very good self defence plan going in & always being on high security alert while there.You could actually stop enjoying life and stay at home under a blanket. Then again, an airplane might fall on your house.

Wicked Roger
03-11-13, 14:21
You are entitled to your opinion, and I mine.

Yes. And no. He should get help in PM; we have many expats and board regulars for that. The phils boards are for posters of field reports (first). Questions can be asked after. Please don't confuse the phils thread with those of Tijuana, Ghana, or Rio, or Columbia. If you search the gent in question's posts, you will see he has few, if any, field reports. None in phils (he's a newb) , going back dozens of his posts none in Thailand nor India (his haunts). He's a taker. He's asked over 2 dozen questions in the phils threads recently, and dozens more in the india / thai threads, all without posting descriptive FR's. Nor does he post many pics. My statement stands.I agree with WC1 in this,

Guys likes us read the previous FRs and when you see a serial questioner you get very suspicious, no FRs of use to anyone and just daft questions. He could call ABC or Google as well as RTFF as PJ said. If he did he would find most of his needs answered.

For example, my first trip to Manila I RTFF and looked at lots of posts and most answered my question then I PM a few guys telling what I had found. Loso69 did same when he made his virgin trip to Abu Dhabi. So we all make these trips just depends on how lazy we are!

WC1. Very polite reply I may not have been so elegant in my riposte. At least he has a PM until PP with 1000+ posts and no PM (a real cheap charlie)

Mr Enternational
03-11-13, 14:28
Meanwhile, until you can prove the reports aren't true, I'd recommend staying the hell out of PI, & have sex with girls in another country that is relatively far safer.Well shit. You prove that the reports ARE true. The burden of proof should be on the monger making the claim, not the monger reading the report.

Chocha Monger
03-11-13, 17:45
well shit. you prove that the reports are true. the burden of proof should be on the monger making the claim, not the monger reading the report.internet terrorist, pinkpearl, warns the isg readership that they should be paralyzed by fear of being blackmailed in the philippines. he then offers rumors of setups as proof that he is telling the truth. when members question the veracity of his allegations, his response is to tell them that they should be afraid unless they can prove that the rumors are not true! pp must be taking his cue from nazi propagandists who propagated rumors that jews ate babies. their answer to anyone claiming that this was not so, was to challenge them to prove that it never happened.

pp then puts forward his theory that mongers who scrape together the funds for a two week annual vacation to the philippines are being extorted for absurd amounts of cash. he claims that a country notorious for inefficiency has actually figured out a way to get its law enforcement agencies, journalists, prostitutes, judiciary, social services and the relatives of those involved to keep these cases of extortion well guarded state secrets. he expects the readership to believe that this is actually possible in a society that loves to publicize sex scandals involving socially prominent locals and, even more so, foreigners.

PinkPearl
03-11-13, 18:51
you could actually stop enjoying life and stay at home under a blanket. then again, an airplane might fall on your house.i suppose you could do the same thing. i've decided not to. how about you? btw what was your point.

"yet another manila corruption story how tourists get taken by bar girls and why many find thailand so much better then the dangers and corruption of the philippines"

http://www.sexwork.com/philippines/rapebribe.html

Travlr009
03-11-13, 20:16
1) ABC is a nice and pricey place to stay but far from the main street. I'm guessing if you are asking all these questions, you haven't been there. The walk to Fields is about 10-15 min but ABC can take you down there and pick you up. ABC does have a bar by the pool where you can BF but it's pretty expensive and the experience is a hit / miss from all those I've talked to that went that route. I think they told me they were quoted 3000+ I only stayed there but never bothered with the girls at the bar in the hotel. Have you considered Fields Plaza Suites? Its at the other end of Fields close to all the action by McDonalds and across from Jollybees.

http://fieldsplazasuites.com/

2) Bar Quality is subjective. All depends on what you are looking for? Some like the small places where some like the grand layouts.

3) Money Changers are all over the place. Just go down fields and there are a few Money Changers as well as an ATM at Paradise Garden and futher down by 7-11 / McDonalds. Just don't be flashing big wads of cash and draw attention to yourself.

4) SM Mall is close. You can see it across the street aways from ABC I think.

5) Almost all bars have girls that will do a threesome. The question you are not asking is which one will go with another girl and actually bisexual.

6) It's plenty safe to me. I go down there for a looksee early afternoon and perhaps get a ST in before night time.

Hope that helps. Just joined the site and thought I share what I know.Your best bet is to talk to the mamsan and use the term 'lesbian girl'. 'bisexual' generally has no meaning for them. 'lesbian girl' is a girl who likes other girls, but of course does men most of the time, but likes a chance to do a girl as well

Screaming Beaver
03-11-13, 21:26
i suppose you could do the same thing. i've decided not to. how about you? btw what was your point.

"yet another manila corruption story how tourists get taken by bar girls and why many find thailand so much better then the dangers and corruption of the philippines"

http://www.sexwork.com/philippines/rapebribe.htmllooks like [deleted by admin] has sunken to a new low. now it's trying to scare everyone by digging up an old bullshit article dating back to 1999! what's next? perhaps an article circa vietnam war describing how mostly all the girls in asia have std's which cannot be treated if you get infected? it's posts are getting more laughable by the day.

editor's note: this report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were largely antagonistic. please read the forum faq and the forum's posting guidelines for more information. thank you!

PinkPearl
03-11-13, 22:02
well shit. you prove that the reports are true. the burden of proof should be on the monger making the claim, not the monger reading the report.why is that? and what would constitute "proof" either way? how many reports do you need to convince you? do you deny that police have worked with girls in pi to blackmail foreigners with false claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) etc? what makes you think this couldn't easily happen to you in the extremely corrupt pi?

"burden of proof"? isg isn't a court of law. lol. and don't count on ever getting to one in the pi if you are taken away by the guys with guns pointed at you. as a black guy there, such as yourself, i'd be especially concerned.

the blackmailing authorities with guns don't even need to have real photos of the girl, whether nude or not, in the guy's possessions, just an allegation of it. they could add the "evidence" themselves later. they could also remove and destroy certain types of evidence that showed the guy to be innocent.

again, read the many reports of similar scams going back to before yk2 in pi, which i have already referred you to, make your own decision & live with the consequences. good luck whatever you decide.

p. s. if you come across as a backpacker, destitute or poor person with little money, then you probably have little to worry about as far as this type of crime is concerned. otherwise, whether an expat or in town for only a few days, you already have a huge x on your back.

have fun & be safe.

Luvpuss
03-11-13, 22:19
i suppose you could do the same thing. i've decided not to. how about you? btw what was your point.

"yet another manila corruption story how tourists get taken by bar girls and why many find thailand so much better then the dangers and corruption of the philippines"

http://www.sexwork.com/philippines/rapebribe.htmlwtf? you use to have decent posts.

how many dudes have been fucked over in thailand in the past 14 years?

anyone going anywhere in sea, just use your common sense. don't get fucked up or be an ah and treat people with respect.

WestCoast1
03-12-13, 00:34
I agree with WC1 in this,

SNIP

WC1. Very polite reply I may not have been so elegant in my riposte. At least he has a PM until PP with 1000+ posts and no PM (a real cheap charlie) Roger thanks. While Dante is not yet a regular member (dude, pay up the $20) , and has 52 posts, at least some of his posts have decent information in them (Pattaya, bangladesh). The other guy he's talking about has oodles of reports with mostly questions, and isn't deserving of Dante's support.

Pip Jaeger
03-12-13, 01:44
Roger thanks. While Dante is not yet a regular member (dude, pay up the $20) , and has 52 posts, at least some of his posts have decent information in them (Pattaya, bangladesh). The other guy he's talking about has oodles of reports with mostly questions, and isn't deserving of Dante's support.Agreed, hence my RTFF reply. Bar / girl quality is always subjective as our tastes vary. The girls come and go, take off, sneak out, etc. So there's no assurance any one or couple of them will be available at any given time. So the statement "YMMV" is especially true here. The factual info requested has already been posted, he's just one more lazy person who doesn't want to take the time to do a bit of research and RTFF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dissuade anyone (newbie or vet poster) from asking questions. But IMHO if after someone has taken the time to research and still can't find the info, then, and only then, pose the question either via PM or on the open board.

Dante2
03-12-13, 02:30
Roger thanks. While Dante is not yet a regular member (dude, pay up the $20) , and has 52 posts, at least some of his posts have decent information in them (Pattaya, bangladesh). The other guy he's talking about has oodles of reports with mostly questions, and isn't deserving of Dante's support.I just thought your "go there first and then you can ask questions" was completely ass backwards logic, there is never more of a time to need answers then before you have any experience.

I don't have any clue about his posting history at all and after hearing your responses I agree he could have put some more time in to read the thread.


WC1. Very polite reply I may not have been so elegant in my riposte. At least he has a PM until PP with 1000+ posts and no PM (a real cheap charlie)Ouch some random dude on the internet just called me a "real cheap charlie" I am so hurt, no reason to be so cruel.

I am a cheap bastard, I take pride in it, not everyone wants to pay for something they get for free on other sites

Ezinho
03-12-13, 02:41
Mongers,

Well well well, it looks like things haven't changed much since I last posted here. Still a bunch off worthless posts about how "dangerous" AC is. Please, spare me the stories, I was jumped and beat up by six pinoys in '09 on First Street in Angeles, and I went back there six months later. Why? Because the pussy is good, young, cheap and bareback. Hell, a gun could be pulled on me and my ass would still go back there.

To Pink Pearl: No offense dude, but are you even a monger? I searched all your posts and I didn't see one trip report for anywhere. It was all safe sex and posts about crime. Why do you even belong to this site? You seem intelligent enough, so I'm just wondering what your motive is here?

As far as the story posted by Greko Niko, or whatever his name is, it's probably bullshit BUT you guys have to remember how corrupt the AC pulis are. Honestly, they make the policia in Mexico look honest. Asking for 2. 5 million pesos sounds like bullshit, but I wouldn't be surprised if they maybe asked for 250k pesos. Of course they don't expect to get this, they probably had something more like 25k pesos in mind, but that's just how things work in PI, that was their "starting offer" so to speak; you have to negotiate everything there, including with the pulis.

Hell, when I was beat up in AC I had to pay for the gas for the pulis truck AND I had to give one of the cops money to file a police report. And this was with blood running down my face! So Grekos story isn't completely impossible to believe, although the truth probably lies somewhere in between. The monger's probably weren't completely innocent either.

Enjoy the Phils, guys. I'm focusing back on Latin America for the time being (I miss banging chicks with proper tits and ass), so no plans for AC in the near future, but I'll be back someday; Pinay pussy is just too good to give up on, regardless of the danger.

PinkPearl
03-12-13, 19:03
how many dudes have been fucked over in thailand in the past 14 years?that isn't the topic of discussion. what you should be asking here is:

how many dudes in thailand have been blackmailed by authorities (such as police) working with adult bargirls, dating site girls & streetwalkers?

as in cases where the guy was falsely accused of [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) the girl, or taken away by officers for allegedly taking a picture of the girl & large sums of cash demanded in exchange for freedom?

if you ever hear of a single such case having occurred in thailand, let me know, with links to the report. i've been reading thailand monger forums, news, etc, since 2005 & never read of any such thing. that is the question at issue, not general corruption or cases where guys get drunk, drugged, or leave cash lying around and are robbed, etc, due to their own stupidy. those are easy enough to avoid. the pi scam is not. unless you stay out of the country.

btw, generally speaking los is considered to be significantly safer for foreign hobbyists than the philippines. i say this based on numerous opinions that i've read over the last decade on a variety of websites & forums such as this. many times it has been said that los is the safer of the two. never have i seen anyone say the opposite. you could call that a "slam dunk" in favour of siam.

from the pi thread "avoiding freelancer scams and extortions":

"the modus operandi of these scammers appears to be (snip) after sex with a girl clearly of age, cops knock on your door hours later to charge you with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) per her complaint."

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3298-avoiding-freelancer-scams-and-extortions/page2

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3298-avoiding-freelancer-scams-and-extortions/page4


internet terrorist, pinkpearl, warns the isg readership that they should be paralyzed by fear of being blackmailed in the philippines. he then offers rumors of setups as proof that he is telling the truth. when members question the veracity of his allegations, his response is to tell them that they should be afraid unless they can prove that the rumors are not true! pp must be taking his cue from nazi propagandists who propagated rumors that jews ate babies. their answer to anyone claiming that this was not so, was to challenge them to prove that it never happened.

pp then puts forward his theory that mongers who scrape together the funds for a two week annual vacation to the philippines are being extorted for absurd amounts of cash. he claims that a country notorious for inefficiency has actually figured out a way to get its law enforcement agencies, journalists, prostitutes, judiciary, social services and the relatives of those involved to keep these cases of extortion well guarded state secrets. he expects the readership to believe that this is actually possible in a society that loves to publicize sex scandals involving socially prominent locals and, even more so, foreigners.nice job of twisting the truth, & distorting the facts, with a few outright lies thrown in, as anyone with eyes to see realizes. believe all the reports of blackmailing are mere "rumours" or made up fairytales if you want to & at your own peril. re blackmail cases in ac:


for 2011 there were 2 that i am aware of one of a girl that accused a punter (girl was from geckos bar) which was sorted out quickly but we never got to hear what fully happened. from a girl that works in geckos i was told that the girl in question had scars when she went to the cops and the next day in the bar. again this could be just them trying to save their reputation but maybe there was more to it? all we got was one side of the story.http://www.sexwork.com/philippines/rapebribe.html

http://www.sexwork.com/philippines/contents.html

Chocha Monger
03-12-13, 23:33
to pink pearl: no offense dude, but are you even a monger? i searched all your posts and i didn't see one trip report for anywhere. it was all safe sex and posts about crime. why do you even belong to this site? you seem intelligent enough, so i'm just wondering what your motive is here?the pinkpearl declined to answer questions regarding its motives and status as a hobbyist, but this is what we know:

1. pinkpearl's motive is to scare mongers away from the philippines and promote thailand as a 'safer' destination. though, he / she has not explained why foreigners tend to mysteriously fall to their deaths from tall buildings in thailand, or why david carradine's corpse was found hanging buck ass naked in the closet of his thai hotel room.

2. pinkpearl is attempting to drive internet traffic from isg to his / her website sexwork dot com. hopefully, jackson eventually catches on to this and bans pp for promoting his / her competing site.

3. pinkpearl is not a monger. pp primary interests are to discourage men from visiting the republic of the philippines, and spreading unsafe sex propaganda i. e. virgin coconut oil liberally applied to your prick renders you invulnerable to aids among other things.

4. pinkpearl by its own admission has not, and will never, visit the philippines or ever engage in sexual congress with a beautiful filipina, yet continues to harass those who have done so and who intend to do so.

5. pinkpearl is a conspiracy theorist who promotes rumors of foreign tourists being extorted by filipinos while presenting no credible evidence or news reports to support the allegations. pp's convenient explanation for the lack of any plausible information is that the philippine government has suppressed the press and silenced the supposed victims.

pinkpearl, why don't you mention the fact that there numerous foreign ****s, [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), fraudsters, and other undesirables deported from the philippines each year? often at the request, and with the assistance, of the united states and other developed nations. given those facts it would be understandable if filipinos grabbed their children and held them close every time a foreigner passed by. tell me who should really be afraid?

Makeupaname
03-13-13, 02:57
But but but hes been "READING" about this stuff since 2005.

Mr Enternational
03-13-13, 03:36
I think I'm going to join an automotive forum and try to get everyone to stop riding in cars because they are much too dangerous.

Mongering (or living for that matter) is not for the faint of heart. If you can't take the heat stay the fuck out of the kitchen. But don't go crying to those who can take the heat that they should not be cooking up something delicious. Different strokes for different folks. If you wuss up about something then stay away, but don't pester everyone else who is doing just fine. Hey I would never go skydiving. That is my wuss point. But am I trying to convince those that love it that they should not be doing it because one guy's chute did not open back in 1968? As Freebie has already said, most in this thread have been to PI at least once and so they know the real deal. Why would you even expect a guy with experience to take advice from a guy whose only experience is through the wonders of reading?

Chaos Theory
03-13-13, 14:18
Guys.

Hoping someone can help. Met a guy at the Hacienda Disco, back of casino Filipino, a couple of weeks ago. His name was Darren Petter. From Manchester. I've lost his contact details and we agreed to meet up again in phil in April to go mongering. Anyone know him (or maybe one of you is him!) so I can get back in touch?

Thanks.

CT

Red Kilt
03-13-13, 15:41
Guys.

Hoping someone can help. Met a guy at the Hacienda Disco, back of casino Filipino, a couple of weeks ago. His name was xx. From Manchester. I've lost his contact details and we agreed to meet up again in phil in April to go mongering. Anyone know him (or maybe one of you is him!) so I can get back in touch?Chaos Theory is a great name for you.

Do you realise that you actually POSTED this poor guy's NAME on this open board.

Everybody, including law enforcement agencies, reads this board. Maybe his wife or his wife's friends? Maybe some guy has a grudge against him in Manchester and now he can really toast him.

I sure would not want you as my friend if you are so indiscreet with people's names and private information.

I can only hope that his real name is NOT the one you posted.

Chaos Theory
03-13-13, 15:55
Red Kilt.

Your concern is touching. But I'm not that stupid. That is the name he uses mongering (don't know why). His real name was in the email address I lost and now can't remember! If I could remember real name I could check facebook etc! I used his mongering name as I assumed if anyone else knew him it would be under this name.

CT.


Chaos Theory is a great name for you.

Do you realise that you actually POSTED this poor guy's NAME on this open board.

Everybody, including law enforcement agencies, reads this board. Maybe his wife or his wife's friends? Maybe some guy has a grudge against him in Manchester and now he can really toast him.

I sure would not want you as my friend if you are so indiscreet with people's names and private information.

I can only hope that his real name is NOT the one you posted.

Pute Nut
03-13-13, 15:58
Good post. Ezinho has basically got it right, I think. I'm glad to see the cops just needed gas, sometimes the pulis car also has a flat tire.. LOL. Like Ezinho, I don't buy the Greek story the way it was presented here.

Sometimes this thread looks like solid proof that Mount Stupid is real, with so much crappy and misleading stuff being posted here.


Hell, when I was beat up in AC I had to pay for the gas for the pulis truck AND I had to give one of the cops money to file a police report. And this was with blood running down my face! So Grekos story isn't completely impossible to believe, although the truth probably lies somewhere in between. The monger's probably weren't completely innocent either.

Enjoy the Phils, guys. I'm focusing back on Latin America for the time being (I miss banging chicks with proper tits and ass) , so no plans for AC in the near future, but I'll be back someday; Pinay pussy is just too good to give up on, regardless of the danger.

Fast Eddie 48
03-13-13, 16:41
Red Kilt.

Your concern is touching. But I'm not that stupid. That is the name he uses mongering (don't know why). His real name was in the email address I lost and now can't remember! If I could remember real name I could check facebook etc! I used his mongering name as I assumed if anyone else knew him it would be under this name.

CT.Chaos,

I don't know why you even try to find this guy here at ISG this site is not a lost and found site why are you looking for him did he own you money or something.

Fast Eddie 48

Wicked Roger
03-13-13, 17:20
Red Kilt.

Your concern is touching. But I'm not that stupid. That is the name he uses mongering (don't know why). His real name was in the email address I lost and now can't remember! If I could remember real name I could check facebook etc! I used his mongering name as I assumed if anyone else knew him it would be under this name.

CT.RK.

I had same concern.

But my more pressing concern is that a monger is asking about a guy on this forum. Normally we get doe eyed mongers trying to to find their soulmate (girl / cutie) not a bloke LOL

Apeman 28
03-13-13, 17:33
Fellas.

Just been to the Ice bar on the Perimeter and they tried to touch me 500 P, shit only had a couple of drinks with a bird plus a bar fine, fuck they must think we are less educated than them. Told the aussie manager to get the cashier new bty's for her calculator so he had a word with the bird. From the many bars I had a drinks in, this is the first time I had tried to have been touched, mates in Thailand tell a few bad stories about thai maths. Morale of story, always double check the bill.

PinkPearl
03-13-13, 20:54
well well well, it looks like things haven't changed much since i last posted here. still a bunch off worthless posts about how "dangerous" ac is. please, spare me the stories, i was jumped and beat up by six pinoys in '09 on first street in angeles, and i went back there six months later. why? because the pussy is good, young, cheap and bareback. hell, a gun could be pulled on me and my ass would still go back there.

(snip)

hell, when i was beat up in ac i had to pay for the gas for the pulis truck and i had to give one of the cops money to file a police report. and this was with blood running down my face!that's unfortunate you had to suffer such a beating in ac.

in thailand i've been enjoying the same thing,"young, cheap and bareback" pussy, for years without a hint of any such dangers, let alone enduring what you suffered.

it seems your tune about ac has changed over the years:


when i was in angeles city for two months this summer, my live-in fucklet told me about a trick she and some of her friends used on some of the guys that barfined them; she said they had this red powder that they carried with them in their purse and when they would go back to the monger's hotel, they would go into the bathroom, put the red powder on their panties and add water. then they would come out of the bathroom and tell the monger that they can't have sex because they just started their mens. she said the guys usually fell for it and let her go without boom boom or anything. she was laughing about it and really thought it was funny. keep in mind, this was an 18 year old bargirl with probably a sixth grade education at best, so if this is the scam she was pulling, god only knows what the smart ones are doing!

i agree with you about ac. i think i'm going to give thailand a try next year and if the same shit happens there as well i'm just going to head back to latin america. you don't get as much "gfe" there as compared to asia, but who wants all that headache anyways. just look at what happened to law.what happened to change your attitude? did you ever make it to thailand? btw re the law reference above, for non member lurkers & others that are unaware, that is initials for this poster:


i won't mention the bar at this point for a couple of reasons, but i'll just say it is one of the largest and well known in ac. (snip) she has no condom, so we have someone bring one to the room. as we start to have sex, she tells me it hurts and that i must stop or she will call the police. what the fuck! (snip) about an hour later, the phone rings and the receptionist asks me to come down. i find two police officers there,"inviting" me to come down to the police station. (snip) i won't go into the long drawn out affair that went on at station 4 (the angeles police station) , so i'll mention the key points. she said i raped her. she wanted a 100, 000 pesos.are these mere "rumours" or fairytales to be lightly dismissed?

Luvpuss
03-13-13, 21:09
Fellas.

Just been to the Ice bar on the Perimeter and they tried to touch me 500 P, shit only had a couple of drinks with a bird plus a bar fine, fuck they must think we are less educated than them. Told the aussie manager to get the cashier new bty's for her calculator so he had a word with the bird. From the many bars I had a drinks in, this is the first time I had tried to have been touched, mates in Thailand tell a few bad stories about thai maths. Morale of story, always double check the bill.It can be a small hassle, but I always pay immediately as each drink comes.

PinkPearl
03-13-13, 22:45
The Pinkpearl declined to answer questions regarding its motives and status as a hobbyist, but this is what we know:

1. Pinkpearl's motive is to scare mongers away from the Philippines and promote Thailand as a 'safer' destination. Though, he / she has not explained why foreigners..."As a foreigner you're never safe in the Philippines."

Care to elaborate on that?

Red Kilt
03-14-13, 03:44
Red Kilt.

Your concern is touching. But I'm not that stupid. That is the name he uses mongering (don't know why). His real name was in the email address I lost and now can't remember! If I could remember real name I could check facebook etc! I used his mongering name as I assumed if anyone else knew him it would be under this name.Well you didn't mention that MINOR detail in your original post did you?

Did it occur to you to do a search on here for his "monger name" rather than your incomplete post? For someone who is not stupid, you sure didn't think about it very hard.

BTW, his "monger name" is not listed as a member here on ISG in case you cannot access the membership list.

FreebieFan
03-14-13, 05:21
Well you didn't mention that MINOR detail in your original post did you?

Did it occur to you to do a search on here for his "monger name" rather than your incomplete post? For someone who is not stupid, you sure didn't think about it very hard.

BTW, his "monger name" is not listed as a member here on ISG in case you cannot access the membership list.Good rule. When you monger, give a name thats kind of close to your real name (so its easy to remember) but never quite the exact name. Never know when a girl (or in this case a guy) will try to look for you. Always helps to be a tad invisible.

Wicked Roger
03-14-13, 15:57
Good rule. When you monger, give a name thats kind of close to your real name (so its easy to remember) but never quite the exact name. Always helps to be a tad invisible.Well FF and RK I would love to know your real names as the handle must be so close the real name. Am thinking hard and have a few ideas but I won't share.

See both soon hopefully where we can figure out our real names LOL

WhatsUrName
03-15-13, 01:47
Good rule. When you monger, give a name thats kind of close to your real name (so its easy to remember) but never quite the exact name. Never know when a girl (or in this case a guy) will try to look for you. Always helps to be a tad invisible.OMG! Was I supposed to use a pseudonym? Oh Shit. WhatsUrName is my real name.

Slippery
03-15-13, 02:20
Well FF and RK I would love to know your real names as the handle must be so close the real name. Am thinking hard and have a few ideas but I won't share.

See both soon hopefully where we can figure out our real names LOLI think RK's name is after a race horse that his father bought?

Red Kilt
03-15-13, 03:27
I think RK's name is after a race horse that his father bought?Wow good get Slippery.

I prefer people to think I am Scottish but now my cover is blown LOL.

My Dad and I both jointly owned the horse. Both Dad and RK are now deceased (but their memories live on)

Hedonist75
03-15-13, 13:26
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.

YG365
03-15-13, 17:13
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.Ya, go to Pattaya! Then I'll be able to choose from a larger selection and hopefully the prices drop due to a lack of customers and demand! BTW, Pattaya has a shit load hasslers as well. If you learn to walk with confidence and not look like a sucker, maybe they'd leave you alone! LOL

Sxxxx
03-15-13, 18:26
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.I am not taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you, but always like to see reports like yours. More for me, Angeles, Philippines. It's great, when the Philippines is safe from the hordes of Thailand mongers. Don't want them to come to Philippines. I go to Thailand too, but the girls in Philippines are superior. I don't bother comparing beggars, taxis, touts, footpaths, roads, security personnel, I go for the girls. There is no comparison, LOL!

Wicked Roger
03-15-13, 18:40
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.Is this that plonker and PI hater Pink Pearl with a different handle as same sort of verbal crap as he would spout!

PinkPearl
03-15-13, 23:42
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.If you liked the PI girls, you could go to Kuala Lumpur instead. There are many reports on ISG of PI girls working in Malaysia.

KL is much safer than AC & better in about any way imaginable. The city is much like Bangkok which is where I go for mongering.

PI girls have a rep as being great in the GFE department, so by going to relatively safe clean hassle free Malaysia you can get the best of both worlds if GFE is your thing. (Personally I like Thai girls who are good service providers & am not interested in anything like a GF, although I do enjoy kissing which IME TGs are not into like Canadian women.)

BTW, many reports of KL also indicate Thai, Indonesian, Chinese & Vietnamese P4P ladies are plentiful there for the taking.

Sky Ryder
03-16-13, 01:15
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.So this is your FIRST post. Ever. And you begin with this fecal matter.

CJTraveller
03-16-13, 08:56
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.Great advice! Everyone should follow! I would wager that the same personality trait that drove you to visit three times also drove you to come here and post to warn the rest of us.

Ekspat
03-16-13, 09:36
GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.Yeeeahh, that's it! Wonderful idea, all the cowards to Patts, more choice for me in AC. Be back there in 2 weeks time!

Cheers!

Fast Eddie 48
03-16-13, 16:24
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.Hedonist,

What else is new AC been like than for last 10 yr and I keep going back, they have a nice mall now not 10 yr ago and the US dollar still strong here but not in Pattaya is much more to go there now than 10 yr ago AC is still a bargin you should go to Pattaya not one in AC will miss you.

Fast Eddie 48

Psychman
03-16-13, 16:29
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.You are correct- there is no comparison.

AC is cheaper. The average session is far more GFE. Sex less mechanical. And of course, NOTHING bad every happens in Pattaya, like constant tourists rip offs or violence (sarcasm, for those that don't get it).

Both are great, and yes, if you are a princess, AC is not for you. It is a bit seedy and that is part of what makes it exciting. It is also probably the best place on earth for pleasures of the flesh, IMHO.

Streetlooker
03-16-13, 19:42
This was my 3rd trip to Angeles and I hate to say but the place has gone down. More big time. More children beggers that are relentless, tri / motorbike taxis constantly hassling for business, touts aggressively trying to sell sun glasses or viagra. It dosn't let up! Combine that with shocking foot paths and roads, the place is truly a shit hole! Security personel everywhere carrying hand guns and semi automatic machine guns makes the whole town feel unsafe! GO TO PATTAYA INSTEAD! There is no comparison.So this is exactly the reason you should go to AC. Shit hole is part of its charm. The less people that go here the better I say. Let the Hoof foot flop flop wearing fat asshole stinking ugly dudes that infest Pattaya stay away from my heaven.

Gagafan1
03-16-13, 22:42
Which bars have the better looking girls?

Looking around online it seems to be very hit or miss.

Screaming Beaver
03-17-13, 01:45
Which bars have the better looking girls?The ones which you enter after you are already drunk.

Slippery
03-17-13, 02:20
The ones which you enter after you are already drunk.Its the only intelligent remark I have every read by you SB. Amen. I know, you're still waiting for mine.

Screaming Beaver
03-17-13, 02:58
Its the only intelligent remark I have every read by you SB. Amen. I know, you're still waiting for mine.Correct. We are all waiting for your first intelligent report. Based on your posting history, we will not hold our breath. [Deleted by Admin]

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Chocha Monger
03-17-13, 05:51
hedonist,

what else is new ac been like than for last 10 yr and i keep going back, they have a nice mall now not 10 yr ago and the us dollar still strong here but not in pattaya is much more to go there now than 10 yr ago ac is still a bargin you should go to pattaya not one in ac will miss you.

fast eddie 48perhaps, hedonist would like a safe destination like india?

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/16/17340723-swiss-tourist-gang-raped-in-central-india

#comments

Raverboy
03-18-13, 03:54
Just concluded 3D2N trip to AC 15-17/3.

Updates from the trip:

1. Construction of a new sidewalk along Fields Avenue Walking Street is underway, working their way down Fields from the McDonald's (MacArthur Highway) end. Looks like there will be new lamp posts as I saw concrete footings being installed along the sidewalk.

2. If not pressed for time, the cheapest 'more local' way to get to NAIA from Fields Avenue in AC is: Trike to DAU PHP 100. Victory Liner (A / C, free wifi) to Pasay Terminal PHP 150. Taxi from Bus Terminal to NAIA T3 just under PHP 100 on the meter. Total = PHP 450, 2 hours. If travelling on weekdays, there will be traffic on EDSA, so allow 3 hours travelling time to be safe.

3. Noticed a trend in the last 2 trips of girls in Fields Avenue bars to be more and more commercialized, going so far as 'rejecting' customers that want to barfine them or that request for them to come down to sit with the customer.

Maybe its time to look for a new playground.

Raverboy signing out. Peace.

FruitNinja
03-18-13, 14:07
Just concluded 3D2N trip to AC 15-17/3.

3. Noticed a trend in the last 2 trips of girls in Fields Avenue bars to be more and more commercialized, going so far as 'rejecting' customers that want to barfine them or that request for them to come down to sit with the customer.

Maybe its time to look for a new playground.

Raverboy signing out. Peace.When we were there we saw the same behavior. Particularly in the bigger bars.

Pute Nut
03-18-13, 15:07
2. If not pressed for time, the cheapest 'more local' way to get to NAIA from Fields Avenue in AC is: Trike to DAU PHP 100. Victory Liner (A / C, free wifi) to Pasay Terminal PHP 150. Taxi from Bus Terminal to NAIA T3 just under PHP 100 on the meter. Total = PHP 450, 2 hours. If travelling on weekdays, there will be traffic on EDSA, so allow 3 hours travelling time to be safe.Trike to Dau should be max P 70, or you can just take a jeep if you like to avoid the trike mafia. From Pasay there's also a jeep route direct to T3 (drops you in the roundabout).

Mackin
03-18-13, 20:12
Never had a problem with it unless they were on the rag. I would probably reject some of the guys if I was a girl too. Just as we reject them.

Fast Eddie 48
03-18-13, 20:16
Trike to Dau should be max P 70, or you can just take a jeep if you like to avoid the trike mafia. From Pasay there's also a jeep route direct to T3 (drops you in the roundabout).Pute,

I paid 50 peso field to Dau bus station most of the mafia want 100 peso just ask the next one or until they go down to 50 peso, yes there are Jeep from check point but if you have baggage the trike is better.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
03-18-13, 20:22
perhaps, hedonist would like a safe destination like india?

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/16/17340723-swiss-tourist-gang-raped-in-central-india

#commentschocha,

if you want a danger adventure go to palin cambodia or go golden trangle border thailand and lao ac is disney land compare to this place.

fast eddie 48

Dante2
03-19-13, 00:55
Ya believe it or not it is up to the girls whether they go with you or not.

What is the best (and by best I mean cheapest) way to get from the clark airport to the bus station or to fields?

Will there be trike guys out there trying to charge way to much like you find at most airports?

Say you land at clark airport at 3 am can you just hang out inside for a few hours? I don't want to go bar hopping with my bag and won't have a room till the next day, I guess I could get a cheap room for that night but I'm not going to sleep so I'm not really sure what to do.

Hutsori
03-19-13, 03:43
Ya believe it or not it is up to the girls whether they go with you or not.

What is the best (and by best I mean cheapest) way to get from the clark airport to the bus station or to fields?

Will there be trike guys out there trying to charge way to much like you find at most airports?

Say you land at clark airport at 3 am can you just hang out inside for a few hours? I don't want to go bar hopping with my bag and won't have a room till the next day, I guess I could get a cheap room for that night but I'm not going to sleep so I'm not really sure what to do.You could hang out at Margarita Station or Kokomos. I'm sure it would be more enjoyable than the airport.

Maestro Boy
03-19-13, 05:58
Hi to all, just a quick report about the time I spent in AC late last month. Sorry it's a bit late.

Just spent a quiet two weeks in AC for a holiday. Quiet because I had the flu for the first week and didn't get much action. Before any of you guys make silly comments, think about it. Do you want to get my flu from a female intermediary? So I'm actively doing my bit to look after my ISG brothers out there!

Second week was spend cruising up and down Fields, not much changed since my last visit more than a year ago, a lot of girls, plenty of GFE to be had compared to other sex pots of Asia. Bangkok, Pattaya, etc.

Sort of got stuck in the BJ bar row, easy to find, no pressure for Lady Drinks, and plenty of other mongers to talk to while making your selection, and it's open 24 hours a day, so I just went from one bar to the other. All charged 750 peso ST and 1500 LT. Plenty of girls to choose from, some of those tiny bars have 20 or 30 girls working in them, in 2 shifts! Of course there are some below average looking ones working those bars, but you can pick and choose, although the hot ones always get bar fined frequently. So get in first or you will simply "Miss Your Turn"!

Didn't bother with the rooms upstairs as they are usually a bit dirty, took the girls to my hotel instead. The working girls are sleeping 6 to 10 to a room, and no air conditioning either. One of the best things I did was buy an electric fan from SM mall for one of the girls I took a shine to, she was sharing a room with 5 or 6 other girls, and they loved that electric fan. I got one of those super duper made in Japan, all metal construction, heavy duty fans with 5 year warranty, for a princely sum of 1000 pesos ($25) , and the girls loved it, I got "thanked" by all of the girls in that room during the course of the week. Sigh, I do love charity work. It's a gift that keeps on giving.

I guess I sort of got adopted by the BJ bar row, and had a great time!

Raverboy
03-19-13, 08:28
Never had a problem with it unless they were on the rag. I would probably reject some of the guys if I was a girl too. Just as we reject them.Don't get me wrong, I never had a problem with it either. My point was just to highlight a trend that did not occur too often before.

Let me put it another way. For a place like AC where 'willing buyers' meet 'willing sellers', the trend of there being more and more 'unwilling sellers' is noticeable.

Raverboy
03-19-13, 08:35
Ya believe it or not it is up to the girls whether they go with you or not.

What is the best (and by best I mean cheapest) way to get from the clark airport to the bus station or to fields?

Will there be trike guys out there trying to charge way to much like you find at most airports?

Say you land at clark airport at 3 am can you just hang out inside for a few hours? I don't want to go bar hopping with my bag and won't have a room till the next day, I guess I could get a cheap room for that night but I'm not going to sleep so I'm not really sure what to do.There is an air-conditioned jeepney that leaves when full from Clark to the Main Gate next to Jollibee. From there its a short walk to Fields. Fare as of mid February 2013 is PHP50 per person.

Trikes are not allowed to enter the Clark Air Base / airport grounds.

Eurotel has just opened in AC next to Ponytails. It's close walking distance from where the jeepney from the airport would drop you off. Eurotel has rooms for blocks of time, ie 3 hrs. 6 hrs. 9 hrs, etc. So you can take an appropriate block of time, drop your bags, hit the bars and blow off your first one before you check into your reserved room the next day.

Pute Nut
03-19-13, 08:44
Pute,

I paid 50 peso field to Dau bus station most of the mafia want 100 peso just ask the next one or until they go down to 50 peso, Yes, Fast Eddie 48, P 50 is good price and probably the best attainable. I have done 50 going quite far on Perimeter, but the guy cursed me as I got out of the trike LOL.

Depending on time, your negotiation skills and how much you like to sweat, you may want to settle for 70, that's why I wrote max 70, which should be easy to get with a minimum of hassle and negotiation skills.


yes there are Jeep from check point but if you have baggage the trike is better.Agreed, but in these LCC times with checked luggage charges many (myself included) travel with carry-on only.

Fast Eddie 48
03-19-13, 20:33
Yes, Fast Eddie 48, P 50 is good price and probably the best attainable. I have done 50 going quite far on Perimeter, but the guy cursed me as I got out of the trike LOL.

Depending on time, your negotiation skills and how much you like to sweat, you may want to settle for 70, that's why I wrote max 70, which should be easy to get with a minimum of hassle and negotiation skills.

Agreed, but in these LCC times with checked luggage charges many (myself included) travel with carry-on only.Pute,

You are correct at night time or if you are with a girl is not easy to get them down to 50 peso most will demand 80-100 peso, I don't use the trike much mainy hang around field area or go to the mall.

Fast Eddie 48

Gagafan1
03-20-13, 06:51
What do you guys do to get a girl to agree to take pics or even video?

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 11:39
Maricel from typhoon 2 yrs ago very gf experince, I belive now she is in middleast

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 11:52
Very tight pussy and firm body of Iya from Qbar

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 11:56
Very compliant and gf experince

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 12:08
When she came to the room claimed that she needed to get drunk in order to get horny, being a gentlemen I gave her few shots of Jack Daniel whisky, and she turned into a tigress her BJ techiniques were wondrful, she clamied that I was her second bar fine apart from a Korean and I was the first person who ate her pussy, which really drove her wild

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 12:18
More of Jenny from Camelot

Pagal Chacha
03-20-13, 12:24
Averge looking MILF claimed that I was second person besides her x Filipino husband, very agressive fucker and chewewd ny dick off.

Feanor
03-20-13, 21:15
Note to others, reading the forum is definitely helpful.

Spent four days and will definitely be back.

Stayed at Kokomo's and got the poolside deluxe room. With the AC on, you don't hear much from Voodoo. Great location. They probably should do a better job sealing the room both for noise and to save money on electricity for the AC.

Visisted several of the bars. In quite a few, I did not see anything that interested me (eye of the beholder and all that). In a few of those the wait staff were more attractive than the ladies on stage. Some of the large bars did not have anything I liked. Some of the smaller ones had next to nothing but a couple had a good selection. So I would recommend looking in all sized bars. The two bars IMHO that had the best looking girls were Dollhouse and Carousel (I did not go to every bar and every shift, so the sampling is poor)

Did only two barfines. They were different but both were good. I was a bit surprised that they did not push either lady's drinks nor the barfine as much as in some other locales. They did push the girls some. I had to ask about the barfine and on the plus side I approved on all lady's drinks.

It may be because I am from the USA, I felt a little uncomfortable with as much attention / time the wait staff spent on me. I realize that in less developed countries, that is not uncommon but it still makes me a bit uncomfortable. I did tip decently and that was both appreciated and remembered.

Streetlooker
03-21-13, 07:15
Note to others, reading the forum is definitely helpful.

Spent four days and will definitely be back.

Stayed at Kokomo's and got the poolside deluxe room. With the AC on, you don't hear much from Voodoo. Great location. They probably should do a better job sealing the room both for noise and to save money on electricity for the AC.

Visisted several of the bars. In quite a few, I did not see anything that interested me (eye of the beholder and all that). In a few of those the wait staff were more attractive than the ladies on stage. Some of the large bars did not have anything I liked. Some of the smaller ones had next to nothing but a couple had a good selection. So I would recommend looking in all sized bars. The two bars IMHO that had the best looking girls were Dollhouse and Carousel (I did not go to every bar and every shift, so the sampling is poor)

Did only two barfines. They were different but both were good. I was a bit surprised that they did not push either lady's drinks nor the barfine as much as in some other locales. They did push the girls some. I had to ask about the barfine and on the plus side I approved on all lady's drinks.

It may be because I am from the USA, I felt a little uncomfortable with as much attention / time the wait staff spent on me. I realize that in less developed countries, that is not uncommon but it still makes me a bit uncomfortable. I did tip decently and that was both appreciated and remembered.Maybe they could sense the newbie in you?

Mr Enternational
03-21-13, 09:05
Averge looking MILF claimed that I was second person besides her x Filipino husband, very agressive fucker and chewewd ny dick off.When did women start becoming milfs in their 20s? I would say that is quite a bit young to be considered a MILF.

Mr Enternational
03-21-13, 09:58
i met a flower girl on fields my first night here. she is 19 years old. i was not the least bit interested in her (even though she kept making innuendos about coming with me) since i couldn't wait to get to high society. we exchanged numbers and early the next afternoon she came to go with me to buy a pool stick. all of the shops were closed, and i actually found her pretty desirable, so i asked her back to the room. she said no. but still she kept texting me the whole damn day.

at 3am this morning i got a text that she meant for someone else. it said,"miss to feel you. 3 months no sex here." she quickly realized it was intended for someone else. when my dia girl left at 6:30am i texted telling her to come and i would give her sex. she said,"nooo i'm cherry girl," and later answered to something else,"because i'm vergin." i asked her how the hell can she be a cherry girl when she had previously said she had sex 3 months ago. she changed to say she is cherry girl for 3 months. she then asked for my hotel and room number, then started asking how big my dick was and telling me that she has a baby pussy and she is scared that my dick is too big. i told her that is okay she can just use her mouth and asked her if she knew how to use her tongue ring well. she said the tongue ring is new and she does not do bj.

this shit went on until 8am when i told her bye because she is playing too many games. i told her to meet me at phillies but she said no because she has been selling flowers since 13 years old and everyone on fields knows her. funny that she just met me there yesterday to help me look for a pool stick with no problem. she kept telling me to wait and she would come see me. but wait until when she could not say. so i told her that i will be leaving this afternoon to see if that could speed her up. but now her story is that she can't fuck me because i am leaving town.this girl did end up coming by at 6pm that day. i told her that i changed my flight to stay an extra day just for her. she showed up looking like pig pen from charlie brown. she had said she was at her sister's house playing outside with her nieces and nephews. she had already warned me before she came that i would have to go buy her something to wear and i agreed.

she went and took a shower and the festivities started. it was obvious that she was new to sex and as she suspected my dick did hurt her after pounding away for some time. after it was over she wanted me to go to jolibee to get her some chicken. i also stopped by the clothing lady and bought her a shirt for 200 piso. when i got back to the room she was not answering the door or her phone. (i had to leave the key in the switch to keep the electricity on in the room) wtf? i was knocking and calling for about 5 minutes. i finally went to ask the guy at the building entrance if he had an extra key. he sent someone over to open the door and there she was in the bed, booty ass nekkit sound asleep. i put her chicken and shirt on the desk and went back out to fields.

when i returned she was sitting at the desk eating. i told her that i paid 200 for the shirt. she said that kind should only have been 100. well i'm a foreigner and i definitely don't know the price of women's clothing around that place. anyway, after she finished eating it was time for round 2. we went to sleep and woke up on my departure day. she wanted to stay with me until i left that afternoon, but i had a mamasan who i had met on fields the night before coming by at 10, so i put her out at 9 with 1000 piso.

i talked to her on skype or yahoo a couple of days ago. she said she was at the hospital and she was about to go to sleep. i asked her what was wrong. she said nothing was wrong with her, but her dad was sick. she wanted us to turn on our cams. there she was in a hospital bed next to her sick dad. believe it or not sometimes they do tell the truth. no request for money. i think she knows by now that even if she did ask then i would say no. she still wants to know when i am coming back to see her.

Cunning Stunt
03-21-13, 10:53
When did women start becoming milfs in their 20s? I would say that is quite a bit young to be considered a MILF.In my opinion, Pinays can ONLY be considered MILFs in their 20's and early 30's. With the odd exception they then become MIWNPLFs (adding 'would not particularly').

Pagal Chacha
03-21-13, 19:34
When did women start becoming milfs in their 20s? I would say that is quite a bit young to be considered a MILF.MILF= mama I would like to fuck.

In my perception irrespective of age if a woman is mother two kids is a MILF

Strickjb
03-23-13, 03:59
First of all apologies for this TR being so freaking late.

So after 30+ hours of travel I arrive NAIA. Finally! And a couple of days to party for myself.

Don't know how many of you have requested a visa on arrival in Manila before, but it worked out pretty good for me. When I got to the immigration agent I told him I wanted to apply for a visa on arrival. He directed me to the left, to the Immigration Office in the arrivals area. I told the staff there I wanted to apply for a visa on arrival, they took my passport and said 2600 pesos please. Well I don't have any pesos yet, do you take dollars? No sir. It's ok, just go around this way through the baggage claim to one of the money changers! Can you believe that? So the guy disappears with my passport and I work my way through baggage claim and get some pesos. I go back to the immigration office and wait about another 10 minutes and the guy comes back with my passport and paperwork, must be my police check, I give him the 2600 pesos and he gives me a receipt, and passport / paperwork and tells me to get in the same queue that I was originally in. Get to the original guy and give him everything. Looks it over and he stamps me and sends me on my way. I look at the stamp and he just gave me a 60 day visa. Sweet. Now no worries about renewing at the 21 day mark. Pretty cool deal.

I had booked through email at Wild Orchid Resort and arranged pickup and drive to Angeles. Cost is 2600 or 2900 pesos, I forget, and includes tolls. Hotel told me that the driver would be in the waiting area at the bottom of the ramp. I'm about 30 minutes late getting out of the airport, but there he is right in front so I can see him. Perfect. We make our introductions and we head to the van. Grab a few beers at the stand for the ride and we are off.

I took the advice of many members and set up a DIA account a month or so before arrival. My profile was 'nothing serious just fun' and it was a hit. Made contacts with lots of chicas in AC and they knew I was only going to be there for a few days. Had about 5-6 girls lined up. But hit it off with a girl I'll call Miss J and she was sweet as can be. We messaged each other the entire time and she knew what the deal was. But we hit it off great. Strange as it may seem, we chatted about all kinds of stuff. Politics, world events, sex, everything. Good stuff. I chatted up a few other girls, but kept in contact with J the whole time.

So in the van to AC. Got a Globe SIM card on the way out of the airport and I text J and tell her I'm here and on my way to AC. She texts me right away and tells me to keep her posted as I make my way. I already told her I'm (we're) staying at Wild Orchid. My driver is cool as a fan and we joke on the way. I drink my beers and all is good.

Arrive Orchid around 0100 and jetlag is setting in. Get to the room. Sweet! Orchid is the only place I will ever stay in AC. Staff is great and location is perfect. I'm in the back pool area on the first floor. My patio has steps straight into the pool. How cool is that! Organize my shit and head to the resto / bar and order a beer. Call J and she tells me she will be there in a few minutes. Accustomed to Filipino time, I expect she will call in 30 minutes to tell me she is late, but no. 15 minutes later the security guard asks me if I'm expecting anyone and there she is! I am not disappointed. Man she is fine, a little spinner and she is proportioned perfectly. She reminds me of a mini Lucy Liu. Awesome! We have a drink and just pick up the conversation where we left off on DIA. Then she asks me if we can go to the room! Was not expecting that but it's all good! She gets naked and jumps in the shower. Man what a body, can't wait.

She is not shy about what she wants. A very good thing. She told me she loves to suck dick and she is true to her word. She also told me she loves ass play so when she moved down and started licking my starfish it was all good. Haven't had a girl do that in a long time and it really was heaven. So of course I return the favor. I love it when a girl just freaks out when I lick her ass. Maybe she loves it but doesn't get it all the time, who knows. So we had a fantastic session then of course I pass out from jet lag. Next morning I wake up to her jacking me off and then we move on to more. Damn haven't even had my coffee yet!

Anyway this was my life for two and a half days in AC. We probably fucked 12-15 times and it was fantastic ever freaking time. We went out to eat, out to a couple of the clubs, took her shopping. Just had a kick-ass time together. Finally on the day I was leaving, she waited with me as I checked out. She got a phone call. I had arranged transport back to NAIA with the hotel, so was getting ready to climb in the van. She stopped me and said it was her mom. And her mom was asking if she could come back to Manila to see her. J asks me if she can ride back to Manila with me. So of course I say yes and tell the driver to wait. She takes off and less than 10 minutes later she is back with her bag for Manila. We take off and have a very nice ride back to Manila. Once we're near Mall of Asia she tells the driver that she can get out so I can get to the airport. We have a good bye kiss and that is it.

Not once did this girl mention the word money. She was totally awesome. Right before we left Orchid, I dug through her bag and put some cash in her wallet, a generous amount. She had no idea I had done that, but when she got out of the van in Manila I told her to be careful. That I gave her a Christmas present. She knew the deal and five minutes after she got out she is texting me like crazy thanking me for her "present". Too cool.

A couple photos are part of this TR. Sorry gents she wasn't into action shots, but it's all good. A fantastic GFE. I will hook up with her again for sure.

JB

Tally Wacker
03-23-13, 04:17
You got to love reports like this! Strick did you go to AC just see this girl or were you there for the bars or? Just curious because most guys would just stay in Manila if they were going to hang with one girl.


Not once did this girl mention the word money. She was totally awesome. Right before we left Orchid, I dug through her bag and put some cash in her wallet, a generous amount. She had no idea I had done that, but when she got out of the van in Manila I told her to be careful. That I gave her a Christmas present. She knew the deal and five minutes after she got out she is texting me like crazy thanking me for her "present". Too cool.

A couple photos are part of this TR. Sorry gents she wasn't into action shots, but it's all good. A fantastic GFE. I will hook up with her again for sure.

JB

WestCoast1
03-23-13, 04:21
StrictJ: Nnnnnniiiiiccccccceeeee!

Xdentx
03-24-13, 14:32
I've spent several weeks in Angeles now and have discovered a legitimate massage place with really well trained staff. It's in the same block as the still under construction "Queen's Hotel" and not far from Orchid Inn. It's on a street running parallel to Fields, but two blocks over. The building itself almost looks like it was constructed to house a spa, as opposed to most undistinguished rented commercial spaces. They offer a full range of massage and facial services. One hour Swedish runs 350 pesos. All the tables have the face cut out and showers are available after the massage. They seem to be quite popular with the out of town Koreans on the weekends and are open until 5am. Strictly legit. Great place to get out of the heat during the midday.

Xdentx
03-24-13, 15:07
In the approximately 7 weeks that I've spent in Angeles over the last 6 months, I've come to appreciate a few restaurants. My favorite is Al Bacio, an Italian place on Fields which I've probably visited at least 6 times. Nice atmosphere with dark timbered ceiling, one wall of displayed wine bottles, and good staff. Food was exceptionally good. From pizzas to pastas to meat and seafood. Might run 1000 with a companion. Second favorite is the new Fortune on McArthur. A couple of blocks from McDonalds. I haven't visited the original one further out on the same street. This place is a large brightly lighted Hong Kong style seafood place complete with fish tank. Ideally suited for groups who can share entrees. They do big business on the weekends and if you're a party of two, you may not get the service or attention that you'd like. They also have multiple private rooms for groups. It's a little more pricy. Just discovered Iguana which is quite far out toward Friendship. Mexican with a colorful interior and good food. About 100 trike fee to get there from walking street. Lastly is Piccolo Padre, a high end Italian place that provides an intimate atmosphere and very high quality food. They can probably serve about 24 customers. The chief is from Milan, Italy and his wife is Philippina. It's beyond Al Bacio's from walking street and you actually are well advised to have a reservation to get a seat. Unfortunately the local national dishes don't do much for me.

WestCoast1
03-24-13, 19:00
XdX: Great descriptive reports. Since there's not that much to do outside girls in AC, I'd like to find some new food joints to hit. Thanks again.

WC.

BTW, Jackson / mod: the 'quote' function is not working at the moment. I tried to copy / paste Xdentx's post into this, but no avail.

Dante2
03-25-13, 02:27
You got to love reports like this! Strick did you go to AC just see this girl or were you there for the bars or? Just curious because most guys would just stay in Manila if they were going to hang with one girl.My guess is he just happened across such a great companion on his first try that there was no reason to gamble and hope for something better.

Always nice when it works out like that

Strickjb
03-25-13, 03:54
You got to love reports like this! Strick did you go to AC just see this girl or were you there for the bars or? Just curious because most guys would just stay in Manila if they were going to hang with one girl.TW. All,

Glad you enjoyed my report. Glad to contribute. I had originally posted asking if I should go to AC or just stay in Manila. I only had 2 days but overall recommendation was that I should hit AC. So that was my plan from the beginning. It was just my good fortune that I hooked up with J on DIA. Don't get me wrong. I had 5-6 chicas lined up just on DIA to meet while I was there, and I would have dropped J if things didn't work out. Even went to Forbidden City on the second night to see one of my contacts, a stunner who was actually more my type, but she was being fed LDs and couldn't get away even to just chat. I would not change a thing though. J was awesome in every way and the 60 hours I had in AC were the best I've had in a while!

JB

Chairmanmao69
03-25-13, 16:09
Hi everyone,

Longtime China mongerer here. First post in many, many years.

I'm going to be hitting up the Philippines in a few weeks, landing in Angeles City. I really want to enjoy some beaches. But also want some incredibly filthy nasty sex. The type you just can't seem to pay for here in China.

I haven't scoured the Phil forums, but thought I'd ask:

Where can a fella go to find the most low-down dirty ladies? Here in south China, it's easy to find short-timers. But nearly impossible to find anyone who provides anything approaching "quality service."

Any sure-shot recommendations?

WestCoast1
03-25-13, 16:35
I haven't scoured the Phil forums, but thought I'd ask:

Where can a fella go to find the most low-down dirty ladies? Here in south China, it's easy to find short-timers. But nearly impossible to find anyone who provides anything approaching "quality service."

Any sure-shot recommendations?China, please recognize the 'no-no' here. Newbs need to please go back and RTTF before asking questions (spend a few hours). After RTTF, if you still have questions, please PM one or more of the expats or senior members in the phils threads with your questions. Please don't post the questions on the open boards without having first posted a quality Field Report. Contact me in PM when you become a member.

Also, you make a distinction between 'short-timers' and 'quality service'. What does that mean? You can easily find quality service during a ST. What do you mean also by 'low-down dirty ladies'? You can find anything you want in phils.

Dante2
03-26-13, 01:38
Oh god here we go again with the you can't ask questions if your a noob crap.

Chairman I don't know if you are looking for kinky stuff or what but philippinas try very hard to please their man, you might find a few duds but its not hard to find one that makes you happy.

If you are looking for weird stuff just ask the girl before you take her out of the bar.

Cunning Stunt
03-26-13, 02:27
Please don't post the questions on the open boards without having first posted a quality Field Report. Contact me in PM when you become a member.I can understand your reasoning WC, but I'm baffled by your logic. Surely that is putting the cart before the horse. A first time visitor to The Philippines can hardly be expected to pen a FR before he arrives which is the time that he has the most questions. I have been the same when visiting a place for the first time.

What does annoy is the lazy member who does not RTFF. Most questions have been repeatedly asked and answered and a read back a few pages or the use of the search function will provide the answer to most questions.

Chris Long
03-26-13, 06:30
chris long in angeles city.

mongering in angeles city:

i am going to write a quick how to guide for newbies who have never been to ac before. i fly into manila because a flight from the states going directly to clark is a lot more expensive. manila airport is somewhat of a beehive and a little more confusing than many other airports that i have been to, but certainly manageable and with each trip it becomes more and more familure. once you pass customs and immigration and before you exit you will find a money exchange, they give a pretty good rate for an airport exchange and i usually exchange some money there before i exit. once you exit the building you will find a white striped crossing, cross the street and walk down the tunnel there will be signs at the end, if your name is at the beginning of the alphabet you go to your left if at the end of the alphabet you go to your right. you will come out and there will be a mob of people waiting for their ride and across the street there will be drivers waiting for their pick up. many will hold up signs with the person's name on it. most if not all ac hotels will arrange a pick up from the manila airport for you for around 2700 or 2600 pesos which is the equivalent of about $60 usa give or take a few bucks. there is a less expensive way which will run you around $10 to $15 usa you take a taxi from the airport to the bus station in manila then you take the bus to dau (sp?) and a trike from there to your hotel. i have been told that it is quite easy and comfortable. i have never tried this before but plan to on my next trip. for a first timer it may be advisable to have the hotel arrange your pick up. there is a certain amount of cultural familiarity and comfort that you will want to obtain before you immerse yourself into philippine culture by taking the bus. also after a 30 plus hour flight coming from the states you may want a drive there to pick you up and take you directly to your hotel.

angeles city:

http://www.acmap.com/fields_complete.asp

http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=p5

the monger location in angeles city is really along one road perimiter which turns into fields with both raymond and santos stretching off of fields and the back streets of oak and real streets which run between raymond and santos and parallel to fields. but the main action is fields which is also known as walking street. this area is like a city within a city it's a little enclave within angels city and is not really the real angels city but a somewhat protected area for monger tourist to come and spend money and the philippines to make that money from them ie the working girls. i always felt pretty safe there and believe the area to be very safe i went walking all along the above mentioned streets with the exception of perimeter at night at all hours of the day and night and never had a single problem. there is security in abundance and they seemed more there to protect us and to keep the bad guys away. i was never hassled by the security and felt better having them there. there are hucksters along walking street offering to sell you anything imaginable and trike drivers everywhere, at times they could be a bit of a pest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9vbrd_8eym

the above video was not shot by me but does a pretty good job of showing what fields / walking street is like during the day as well as raymond and santos and the back streets of oak and real which connect raymond and santos. towards the end of the video he heads to the mall. i personally never took a trike to the mall and frankly never took a trike anywhere as the whole area is easily walkable. i always walked to the mall i took teodoro street because that's the street my hotel was on, there is a sky bridge that you walk up and take into the mall. the mall is just like any suburban mall in american and would easily be right at home in any america suburb. just like any mall there are lots of attractive young girls walking around. if i seen an attractive girl i would try to make eye contact smile and if possible say hi. i had a 0. 0 success rate when trying to meet girls at the mall, but i am nearly 50 over weight and unattractive, this may have had something to do with it. a younger more attractive punter might have better luck picking up women at the mall.

while we are on this subject no matter where i was walking in ac both day and night rather fields perimeter, santos raymond or the back streets connecting them if i seen an attractive girl would try to make eye contact smile and walk up next to her or pass her and say hi. most just ignored me and i would say i was at best 50% successful when trying to pick up women walking around in the area. now there are free lancers who come out mainly at night along walking street but can also be found during the day. it may take you a while but soon you will be able to identify who is a freelancer and who is just walking by. naturally the freelancers are quite easy to pick up and inexpensive 700 pesos short time and in my opinion are just as attractive as many of the girls you will find working in the bars. many if not all are ex bar girls. some have said these girls are trouble but i personally never had a problem with any of them and found them to often be fun and skilled in providing services. lyka and michelle are two of my favorites and i will post pictures of them for everyone to see. lyka is actually a little fox and michelle is a very attractive woman as well.

on the subject of success i would say about 1/3 of the women i approached either walking on the street door girls or bar girls tuned me down. the girls do not have to let you bar fine them and many turned me down. as mentioned above i had at best a 50% success rate when trying to pick up women walking around. many door girls would be quite fun and playful with you when you walked buy but when i asked about bar fining them most came up with some excuse why they couldn't and i had a dismal success rate when trying to bar fine door girls. though most would be fun and playful with you when you walked buy there were a number who were quit stony faced and looked very unhappy don't know if it was something about me they didn't like, or they are just unpleasant people. most bar girls looked like they were having fun while dancing and could be quit playful as well but there were a few bars where the girls all looked like the dancing dead and looked like there were very unhappy and even gave me a few dirty looks.

i had a very high success rate when trying to bar fine waitresses in the bar and found many bars had waitresses that were just as attractive if not more attractive than the dancers. i had a 100% success rate when wanting to bar fine a waitress. however, every waitress i bar fined told me she could only do short time two boom booms and then she would have to leave because she had a child at home. i had about a 99% success rate when trying to bar fine a bar girl all but one agreed to go with me. of these girls i only had one runner but not before i had waxed her pretty good a few times. i will post a video and picture of her so everyone knows who she is.

there are a few lady boys along fields at night but i never had any trouble identifying who was a lady boy and never had any unpleasant surprises back in the room. they can be somewhat aggressive when you pass buy but generally shaking your hand no picking up your pace and moving away from them was enough to shut them down. i did not notice anyone who looked ****, on my last trip some of the freelancers looked questionably young but on this trip i did not notice anyone that i thought was ****.

the below link will give you a good idea of what the bar fine prices are. i know on the boards is called early work release, on my last trip every time i tried using that term no one seemed to know what i was talking about, everyone just seemed to use the term bar fine.

http://www.asianescapades.com/free/interactivemap/prices.php

everyone has their own opinion on which bar has the best looking women and i certainly have mine. just know that every bar i walked into i could find at least one or two hotties. the permiter bars open earlier in the afternoon and close in the early evening and the fields / walking street bars open in the early evening and close in the wee hours of the night. prices are generally cheaper in the perimeter bars.

bar fining:

now when you bar fine a girl from the bar she is yours for the night, many will be up front with you saying they cannot stay the whole night but will do two boom booms before she leaves. of all the girls i bar fined i only had one runner who left around 2 or 3 in the morning, i was a little disappointed but had waxed her pretty hard a few times so i figured i had gotten my money's worth. generally when you bar fine a girl it is up to you what you do for the rest of the night. i would usually take them back to the room right away for a boom boom then ask them if they were hungry take them out to eat if they wanted to go bar hopping i would take them around to the different bars buy them a few drinks get them a little loopy and then back to the room for a little more boom boom. they all cuddled up to me at night then in the morning another boom boom before they took a shower and left. many would offer to hang around for the day but my daily routine was to boom boom them, eat breakfast say good bye and go to the gym, come back eat shower and hit the short time bj bars on raymond or santos for an afternoon after gym release.

santos street and raymond street:

these are side streets jutting off of fields that have many short time bars. on raymond street there are four right next to each other at the end of the street before the church. i personally found many of these women to be quite attractive and gave great service at a great price 700 pesos for two hours. i will post some pictures and videos of some of the girls i picked up from here. i never had any of these girls refuse to go with me with the exception of the forth short time bar on raymond street the one closest to the church. here i had one girl tell me she would not boom boom and then another time momason tried quoting me 850 for short time, i got up walked right next door picked up an attractive girl for boom boom at 700 pesos and walked out with her so momason could see that she just lost business.

santos street has a string of short time bars at the same price that run all along the street going past the wild orchid and i found, in my opinion some quit attractive women in there as well, i also picked up the only girl who would let me do her in the butt from one of these bars. if you keep walking in that direction you will find many street walkers, at night the place gets quit packed with street walkers all along the block and one block over, there are even a few during the day. there is a dingy short time hotel in that area that they use but will also come back to your room if you want. some of the street walkers weren't bad looking and look good enough to

work in the bars.

you will also find cuba cuba sports bar and casino on santos.

i do not like cuba cuba.

sorry i had to get that out, but i hope the place changes its practices; cuba cuba employs some very attractive waitresses and guest relation girls who give the impression they are available for takeout. to me this is a scam they put themselves out like they are available for takeout only to find out that they are just there to get you to buy ficha drinks for them and run up your bar tab, in the end they refuse to go with you, you can forget cuba cuba. i had a dismal success rate there less than 10. from my experience the girls are just there to get you to buy them lady drinks and run up your tab and they rarely go with you. to me this is deceitful business, places like kokomos and phillies higher attractive waitresses but it's understood that they are not for takeout. just like any bar / restaurant in the states if you have game and looks you could probably pick them up maybe even a little easier than in the states but they are not giving the illusion they are for takeout. cuba cuba does try to give you that impression the girls are available, but the girls are just there to run up your bar tab and rarely will they go with you, personally i would avoid this place.

i hereby place my chicago cubs billy goat curse on cuba cuba and hope the place either changes its practice or goes under. lol.

hotels:

there are a slew of hotels all along the strip in fields, perimeter and along the side streets. you can find every hotel in your taste and in your budget in ac. the following web site not only has a good list of bars but also a good list of the hotels.

http://www.balibago.org/

i always stay at the lorietta apartelle hotel which is on teodoro just a few paces from fields avenue. rooms are 1300 a night. the place as you can probably tell from the photos and videos i posted is a bit rustic, but workable and it's in a good location and at a good price. i travel for the sex not the hotel so this place works fine for me. i never had any complaints from the girls and they all seemed ok with the place. the only thing i don't like about the lorietta is the beds are not good for fucking, very comfortable for sleeping but not enough spring for good rhythmic fucking.

exchanging money:

everything works on pesos so you will have to exchange your money. as i said you get a pretty good exchange rate at the airport right before you exit and when i am in ac i use norma's exchange which is across the street from my hotel on the corner of teodoro and oak, they always give me a good exchange rate and there is an armed guard there.

blow jobs:

i found that many of the philippines were not the best at this they don't seem to enjoy it that much and do it because it's required of them. very few if any could deep throat, all give blow jobs and all do it without a condom, however almost all are just head nibblers and very few can swallow it all down.

anal sex:

i found this to be very rare, i usually only find one on each trip that is open to this and will do it. very few want to try it and the few that agree to try it start to squirm the moment your dick even touches their asshole.

daty:

all agree to this all enjoy it.

bare back full service:

i know that got your attention.

now i know this is a hot button topic and i know many of you suddenly become evangelist any time this topic is brought up. i would appreciate if you would keep your opinions and your comments to yourself. but, sex in angeles city is done bare back, full service bare back. all girls go full service bare back in ac. i never had any refuse to go bare back, all bar girls, all waitresses, all door girls, all girls i picked up off the street, all short time bar girls go full service bare back. most would ask me to cum outside and not cum inside of them which i always agreed to. the only girls who refused to go bare back were surprisingly some of the street walkers who work at the end of santos street. not surprisingly the pregnancy rate is very high amongst these girls. every girl i bar fined i had sex with anywhere from three to six times during the night and next day, imagine them doing this three or four times a week with customers and it's not a question of if a bar girl gets pregnant by a monger but a question of when she gets pregnant by a monger. the rate of single mothers working the sex trade here like any other place in the world i have mongered i would say was around 90. what is different here is the number of working girls who got pregnant by a monger. this is certainly not a scientific poll but just a sample from the girls i was with, but about 40% to 50% of them said they had their child from a foreigner. australian, european and korean being the prime nationalities that i heard and all said the mongers were not supporting their children. i was also told by more than one street girl that she had gotten stiffed by the indians not paying her afterword's. i am not trying to be insulting to anyone or condemn any nationality but trying to paint as accurate a picture of life in ac as i can. the makeup of mongers is very diverse i noticed a great deal of australians, europeans and koreans. a few indians and a few americans, apart from some of the establishments being owned by americans i did not notice a great deal of them there. but i wasn't there to meet mongers but to get laid, so my observations could be off.

final thoughts:

angels city is without a doubt the meca of mongering. it surpasses any place in latin america. the women can be truly beautiful and in my opinion when it comes to beauty can hold their own against the best in latin america and thailand. they can be sweet as candy cuddle up to you all night long and then let you fuck their brains out the next morning. however, success is not guaranteed i had many as i said above about 1/3 of the girls i approached turned me down and few were quit cold and rude to me. there is also an uncomfortable trend cuba cuba being an example where there girls are just there to tease you and get you to buy lady drinks run up your tab and in the end don't go with you, this is something i hope dies and dies quickly. the problem with ac for an american is that it is so damn far, because of the travel time and time changes it takes two days to get there, technically about 30 hours or so fly time but because of the international date line you lose an additional day when traveling east. so if you leave on a thursday you won't arrive until saturday.

i realize i may have touched upon a few sacred cows in this report and hit upon a few hot button issues. i would appreciate you keeping your moral views or criticisms to yourself, you may not agree with my style of mongering or you may appreciate my style of mongering but either way attacks will only discourage me and others from sharing information that makes this forum a valuable asset to others.

love & peace fellow mongers.

ps: two weeks from today i will be back in sosua for more sweet dominican pussy

live to monger, monger to live.

chris long

Kitie Carson
03-26-13, 09:02
Chris Long in Angeles City.

You will also find Cuba Cuba sports bar and casino on Santos.

I DO NOT LIKE CUBA CUBA.

Sorry I had to get that out, BUT I HOPE THE PLACE CHANGES ITS PRACTICES; Cuba Cuba employs some very attractive waitresses and guest relation girls who give the impression they are available for takeout. To me this is a SCAM they put themselves out like they are available for takeout only to find out that they are just there to get you to buy ficha drinks for them and run up your bar tab, in the end they refuse to go with you, YOU CAN FORGET CUBA CUBA. I had a dismal success rate there less than 10. From my experience the girls are just there to get you to buy them lady drinks and run up your tab and they rarely go with you. To me this is deceitful business, places like Kokomos and Phillies higher attractive waitresses but it's understood that they are not for takeout. Just like any bar / restaurant in the states if you have game and looks you could probably pick them up maybe even a little easier than in the states but they are not giving the illusion they are for takeout. Cuba Cuba does try to give you that impression the girls are available, but the girls are just there to run up your bar tab and rarely will they go with you, personally I would avoid this place.

I hereby place my Chicago Cubs Billy Goat curse on Cuba Cuba and hope the place either changes its practice or goes under. LOL.

Chris LongGreat TR Chris. I have followed your TR's on various boards and enjoyed them all. HOWEVER, I must strongly oppose your statement on Cuba Cuba. Respectfully that is.

I just left AC last weekend, and was also there the 1st 2 weeks of February and the Cuba Cuba is my bar of choice. 65 peso house drinks and local beer, A great poker room with good tourneys, good food at reasonable prices, nice seating areas, and of course GIRLS. You are correct, they are not all going home with you, but that is where you have to do a little weeding out. I found some GREAT 1's and HOT that went with me for 1000 LT. Yep that's right 1000 LT! That's the good thing about this bar is there is no set price on your gals. You get what you can get.

I enjoyed bullshitting with the girls, and they were NEVER pressing me for LD's. If I wanted to get them some I did otherwise we just sat around talking. THe sports were always on, and I was there for the ACC tourney and they found my games when I wanted.

I LOVE CUBA CUBA!

Nvslim
03-26-13, 11:13
Chris Long in Angeles City.

Mongering in Angeles City:

Live to Monger, Monger to Live.

Chris LongNice report. Glad to see you had a good time. Hope the noobs will take time to read all the good info you have provided and stop asking the same inane questions over and over again.

I added this to the ROD.

Slim.

P. S.

Please notice I snipped the report and did not post the whole thing. Only takes a second and saves bandwidth. Remember some read the FRs with a tablet or smart phone and long requotes are maddening.

Null Avenger
03-26-13, 17:30
I've spent several weeks in Angeles now and have discovered a legitimate massage place with really well trained staff. It's in the same block as the still under construction "Queen's Hotel" and not far from Orchid Inn. It's on a street running parallel to Fields, but two blocks over. The building itself almost looks like it was constructed to house a spa, as opposed to most undistinguished rented commercial spaces. They offer a full range of massage and facial services. One hour Swedish runs 350 pesos. All the tables have the face cut out and showers are available after the massage. They seem to be quite popular with the out of town Koreans on the weekends and are open until 5am. Strictly legit. Great place to get out of the heat during the midday.They also do outcall at 500 / hr till about midnight. They have a few massuses there that are very good! I'd recommend going to the shop until you find a massuse you like, then outcall to your hearts content. I'm told by one of the massuses that their commission per massage is 50 PHP incall or outcall.

Fast Eddie 48
03-26-13, 20:22
You will also find Cuba Cuba sports bar and casino on Santos.

I DO NOT LIKE CUBA CUBA.

Sorry I had to get that out, BUT I HOPE THE PLACE CHANGES ITS PRACTICES; Cuba Cuba employs some very attractive waitresses and guest relation girls who give the impression they are available for takeout. To me this is a SCAM they put themselves out like they are available for takeout only to find out that they are just there to get you to buy ficha drinks for them and run up your bar tab, in the end they refuse to go with you, YOU CAN FORGET CUBA CUBA. I had a dismal success rate there less than 10. From my experience the girls are just there to get you to buy them lady drinks and run up your tab and they rarely go with you. To me this is deceitful business, places like Kokomos and Phillies higher attractive waitresses but it's understood that they are not for takeout. Just like any bar / restaurant in the states if you have game and looks you could probably pick them up maybe even a little easier than in the states but they are not giving the illusion they are for takeout. Cuba Cuba does try to give you that impression the girls are available, but the girls are just there to run up your bar tab and rarely will they go with you, personally I would avoid this place.

I hereby place my Chicago Cubs Billy Goat curse on Cuba Cuba and hope the place either changes its practice or goes under. LOL.

Chris Long[/QUOTE]To Chris

I agree Cuba Cuba got some very good looking waitress but they never hustle drink from me, this place only been open for a few month it used to be the sportsmen club I did try to hit on a few waitress they told me no barfined is avalible, there are also some nice looking poker dealer working at the poker room too I like to barfine but so many girl are avalible just around the corner is not a big deal.

Fast Eddie 48

Mongerman69
03-26-13, 20:34
chris long in angeles city.

mongering in angeles city:

i am going to write a quick how to guide for newbies who have never been to ac before. i fly into manila because a flight from the states going directly to clark is a lot more expensive. manila airport is somewhat of a beehive and a little more confusing than many other airports that i have been to, but certainly manageable and with each trip it becomes more and more familure. once you pass customs and immigration and before you exit you will find a money exchange, they give a pretty good rate for an airport exchange and i usually exchange some money there before i exit. once you exit the building you will find a white striped crossing, cross the street and walk down the tunnel there will be signs at the end, if your name is at the beginning of the alphabet you go to your left if at the end of the alphabet you go to your right. you will come out and there will be a mob of people waiting for their ride and across the street there will be drivers waiting for their pick up. many will hold up signs with the person's name on it. most if not all ac hotels will arrange a pick up from the manila airport for you for around 2700 or 2600 pesos which is the equivalent of about $60 usa give or take a few bucks. there is a less expensive way which will run you around $10 to $15 usa you take a taxi from the airport to the bus station in manila then you take the bus to dau (sp?) and a trike from there to your hotel. i have been told that it is quite easy and comfortable. i have never tried this before but plan to on my next trip. for a first timer it may be advisable to have the hotel arrange your pick up. there is a certain amount of cultural familiarity and comfort that you will want to obtain before you immerse yourself into philippine culture by taking the bus. also after a 30 plus hour flight coming from the states you may want a drive there to pick you up and take you directly to your hotel.

angeles city:

http://www.acmap.com/fields_complete.asp

http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=p5

the monger location in angeles city is really along one road perimiter which turns into fields with both raymond and santos stretching off of fields and the back streets of oak and real streets which run between raymond and santos and parallel to fields. but the main action is fields which is also known as walking street. this area is like a city within a city it's a little enclave within angels city and is not really the real angels city but a somewhat protected area for monger tourist to come and spend money and the philippines to make that money from them ie the working girls. i always felt pretty safe there and believe the area to be very safe i went walking all along the above mentioned streets with the exception of perimeter at night at all hours of the day and night and never had a single problem. there is security in abundance and they seemed more there to protect us and to keep the bad guys away. i was never hassled by the security and felt better having them there. there are hucksters along walking street offering to sell you anything imaginable and trike drivers everywhere, at times they could be a bit of a pest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9vbrd_8eym

the above video was not shot by me but does a pretty good job of showing what fields / walking street is like during the day as well as raymond and santos and the back streets of oak and real which connect raymond and santos. towards the end of the video he heads to the mall. i personally never took a trike to the mall and frankly never took a trike anywhere as the whole area is easily walkable. i always walked to the mall i took teodoro street because that's the street my hotel was on, there is a sky bridge that you walk up and take into the mall. the mall is just like any suburban mall in american and would easily be right at home in any america suburb. just like any mall there are lots of attractive young girls walking around. if i seen an attractive girl i would try to make eye contact smile and if possible say hi. i had a 0. 0 success rate when trying to meet girls at the mall, but i am nearly 50 over weight and unattractive, this may have had something to do with it. a younger more attractive punter might have better luck picking up women at the mall.

while we are on this subject no matter where i was walking in ac both day and night rather fields perimeter, santos raymond or the back streets connecting them if i seen an attractive girl would try to make eye contact smile and walk up next to her or pass her and say hi. most just ignored me and i would say i was at best 50% successful when trying to pick up women walking around in the area. now there are free lancers who come out mainly at night along walking street but can also be found during the day. it may take you a while but soon you will be able to identify who is a freelancer and who is just walking by. naturally the freelancers are quite easy to pick up and inexpensive 700 pesos short time and in my opinion are just as attractive as many of the girls you will find working in the bars. many if not all are ex bar girls. some have said these girls are trouble but i personally never had a problem with any of them and found them to often be fun and skilled in providing services. lyka and michelle are two of my favorites and i will post pictures of them for everyone to see. lyka is actually a little fox and michelle is a very attractive woman as well.

on the subject of success i would say about 1/3 of the women i approached either walking on the street door girls or bar girls tuned me down. the girls do not have to let you bar fine them and many turned me down. as mentioned above i had at best a 50% success rate when trying to pick up women walking around. many door girls would be quite fun and playful with you when you walked buy but when i asked about bar fining them most came up with some excuse why they couldn't and i had a dismal success rate when trying to bar fine door girls. though most would be fun and playful with you when you walked buy there were a number who were quit stony faced and looked very unhappy don't know if it was something about me they didn't like, or they are just unpleasant people. most bar girls looked like they were having fun while dancing and could be quit playful as well but there were a few bars where the girls all looked like the dancing dead and looked like there were very unhappy and even gave me a few dirty looks.

i had a very high success rate when trying to bar fine waitresses in the bar and found many bars had waitresses that were just as attractive if not more attractive than the dancers. i had a 100% success rate when wanting to bar fine a waitress. however, every waitress i bar fined told me she could only do short time two boom booms and then she would have to leave because she had a child at home. i had about a 99% success rate when trying to bar fine a bar girl all but one agreed to go with me. of these girls i only had one runner but not before i had waxed her pretty good a few times. i will post a video and picture of her so everyone knows who she is.

there are a few lady boys along fields at night but i never had any trouble identifying who was a lady boy and never had any unpleasant surprises back in the room. they can be somewhat aggressive when you pass buy but generally shaking your hand no picking up your pace and moving away from them was enough to shut them down. i did not notice anyone who looked ****, on my last trip some of the freelancers looked questionably young but on this trip i did not notice anyone that i thought was ****.

the below link will give you a good idea of what the bar fine prices are. i know on the boards is called early work release, on my last trip every time i tried using that term no one seemed to know what i was talking about, everyone just seemed to use the term bar fine.

http://www.asianescapades.com/free/interactivemap/prices.php

everyone has their own opinion on which bar has the best looking women and i certainly have mine. just know that every bar i walked into i could find at least one or two hotties. the permiter bars open earlier in the afternoon and close in the early evening and the fields / walking street bars open in the early evening and close in the wee hours of the night. prices are generally cheaper in the perimeter bars.

bar fining:

now when you bar fine a girl from the bar she is yours for the night, many will be up front with you saying they cannot stay the whole night but will do two boom booms before she leaves. of all the girls i bar fined i only had one runner who left around 2 or 3 in the morning, i was a little disappointed but had waxed her pretty hard a few times so i figured i had gotten my money's worth. generally when you bar fine a girl it is up to you what you do for the rest of the night. i would usually take them back to the room right away for a boom boom then ask them if they were hungry take them out to eat if they wanted to go bar hopping i would take them around to the different bars buy them a few drinks get them a little loopy and then back to the room for a little more boom boom. they all cuddled up to me at night then in the morning another boom boom before they took a shower and left. many would offer to hang around for the day but my daily routine was to boom boom them, eat breakfast say good bye and go to the gym, come back eat shower and hit the short time bj bars on raymond or santos for an afternoon after gym release.

santos street and raymond street:

these are side streets jutting off of fields that have many short time bars. on raymond street there are four right next to each other at the end of the street before the church. i personally found many of these women to be quite attractive and gave great service at a great price 700 pesos for two hours. i will post some pictures and videos of some of the girls i picked up from here. i never had any of these girls refuse to go with me with the exception of the forth short time bar on raymond street the one closest to the church. here i had one girl tell me she would not boom boom and then another time momason tried quoting me 850 for short time, i got up walked right next door picked up an attractive girl for boom boom at 700 pesos and walked out with her so momason could see that she just lost business.

santos street has a string of short time bars at the same price that run all along the street going past the wild orchid and i found, in my opinion some quit attractive women in there as well, i also picked up the only girl who would let me do her in the butt from one of these bars. if you keep walking in that direction you will find many street walkers, at night the place gets quit packed with street walkers all along the block and one block over, there are even a few during the day. there is a dingy short time hotel in that area that they use but will also come back to your room if you want. some of the street walkers weren't bad looking and look good enough to

work in the bars.

you will also find cuba cuba sports bar and casino on santos.

i do not like cuba cuba.

sorry i had to get that out, but i hope the place changes its practices; cuba cuba employs some very attractive waitresses and guest relation girls who give the impression they are available for takeout. to me this is a scam they put themselves out like they are available for takeout only to find out that they are just there to get you to buy ficha drinks for them and run up your bar tab, in the end they refuse to go with you, you can forget cuba cuba. i had a dismal success rate there less than 10. from my experience the girls are just there to get you to buy them lady drinks and run up your tab and they rarely go with you. to me this is deceitful business, places like kokomos and phillies higher attractive waitresses but it's understood that they are not for takeout. just like any bar / restaurant in the states if you have game and looks you could probably pick them up maybe even a little easier than in the states but they are not giving the illusion they are for takeout. cuba cuba does try to give you that impression the girls are available, but the girls are just there to run up your bar tab and rarely will they go with you, personally i would avoid this place.

i hereby place my chicago cubs billy goat curse on cuba cuba and hope the place either changes its practice or goes under. lol.

hotels:

there are a slew of hotels all along the strip in fields, perimeter and along the side streets. you can find every hotel in your taste and in your budget in ac. the following web site not only has a good list of bars but also a good list of the hotels.

http://www.balibago.org/

i always stay at the lorietta apartelle hotel which is on teodoro just a few paces from fields avenue. rooms are 1300 a night. the place as you can probably tell from the photos and videos i posted is a bit rustic, but workable and it's in a good location and at a good price. i travel for the sex not the hotel so this place works fine for me. i never had any complaints from the girls and they all seemed ok with the place. the only thing i don't like about the lorietta is the beds are not good for fucking, very comfortable for sleeping but not enough spring for good rhythmic fucking.

exchanging money:

everything works on pesos so you will have to exchange your money. as i said you get a pretty good exchange rate at the airport right before you exit and when i am in ac i use norma's exchange which is across the street from my hotel on the corner of teodoro and oak, they always give me a good exchange rate and there is an armed guard there.

blow jobs:

i found that many of the philippines were not the best at this they don't seem to enjoy it that much and do it because it's required of them. very few if any could deep throat, all give blow jobs and all do it without a condom, however almost all are just head nibblers and very few can swallow it all down.

anal sex:

i found this to be very rare, i usually only find one on each trip that is open to this and will do it. very few want to try it and the few that agree to try it start to squirm the moment your dick even touches their asshole.

daty:

all agree to this all enjoy it.

bare back full service:

i know that got your attention.

now i know this is a hot button topic and i know many of you suddenly become evangelist any time this topic is brought up. i would appreciate if you would keep your opinions and your comments to yourself. but, sex in angeles city is done bare back, full service bare back. all girls go full service bare back in ac. i never had any refuse to go bare back, all bar girls, all waitresses, all door girls, all girls i picked up off the street, all short time bar girls go full service bare back. most would ask me to cum outside and not cum inside of them which i always agreed to. the only girls who refused to go bare back were surprisingly some of the street walkers who work at the end of santos street. not surprisingly the pregnancy rate is very high amongst these girls. every girl i bar fined i had sex with anywhere from three to six times during the night and next day, imagine them doing this three or four times a week with customers and it's not a question of if a bar girl gets pregnant by a monger but a question of when she gets pregnant by a monger. the rate of single mothers working the sex trade here like any other place in the world i have mongered i would say was around 90. what is different here is the number of working girls who got pregnant by a monger. this is certainly not a scientific poll but just a sample from the girls i was with, but about 40% to 50% of them said they had their child from a foreigner. australian, european and korean being the prime nationalities that i heard and all said the mongers were not supporting their children. i was also told by more than one street girl that she had gotten stiffed by the indians not paying her afterword's. i am not trying to be insulting to anyone or condemn any nationality but trying to paint as accurate a picture of life in ac as i can. the makeup of mongers is very diverse i noticed a great deal of australians, europeans and koreans. a few indians and a few americans, apart from some of the establishments being owned by americans i did not notice a great deal of them there. but i wasn't there to meet mongers but to get laid, so my observations could be off.

final thoughts:

angels city is without a doubt the meca of mongering. it surpasses any place in latin america. the women can be truly beautiful and in my opinion when it comes to beauty can hold their own against the best in latin america and thailand. they can be sweet as candy cuddle up to you all night long and then let you fuck their brains out the next morning. however, success is not guaranteed i had many as i said above about 1/3 of the girls i approached turned me down and few were quit cold and rude to me. there is also an uncomfortable trend cuba cuba being an example where there girls are just there to tease you and get you to buy lady drinks run up your tab and in the end don't go with you, this is something i hope dies and dies quickly. the problem with ac for an american is that it is so damn far, because of the travel time and time changes it takes two days to get there, technically about 30 hours or so fly time but because of the international date line you lose an additional day when traveling east. so if you leave on a thursday you won't arrive until saturday.

i realize i may have touched upon a few sacred cows in this report and hit upon a few hot button issues. i would appreciate you keeping your moral views or criticisms to yourself, you may not agree with my style of mongering or you may appreciate my style of mongering but either way attacks will only discourage me and others from sharing information that makes this forum a valuable asset to others.

love & peace fellow mongers.

ps: two weeks from today i will be back in sosua for more sweet dominican pussy

live to monger, monger to live.

chris longshould be a report of distinction. if only we could only get more of these, rather than guys arguing spanish / american war history, macro economics, and playing armchair political pundits. maybe we'd get fewer stupid questions. we'll, i'm sure there'd always be a few of those.

Mongerman69
03-26-13, 20:45
Anyone know how you quote a section, within a comment, when responding to a post? Seems like I took up half the page, last post.

Mr Enternational
03-26-13, 20:59
Anyone know how you quote a section, within a comment, when responding to a post? Seems like I took up half the page, last post.Quote it then erase the parts you do not need.

Mongerman69
03-26-13, 21:53
Quote it then erase the parts you do not need.Thanks, buddy.

X Man
03-27-13, 00:47
Thank you for the "overdramatic" and humorous analogy. As you probably suspect, there are no TR (or FR) moderators. Nevertheless, there are people here who have a wealth of information and those who don't. I guess that creates some kind of pecking order.

I think the moderation wannabees (me incluced) are regular contributors who have grown weary of unnecessary questions and posting, rudeness, and lack of any post trip communication from those who were so eager to gain information. There is also the risk of unknown members gathering information for unknown reasons. I know some of the members hear sound cliquish, but they can be surprisingly helpful with those who make a little effort to help themselves.

For every contributing senior member here, there are probably 99 others who want to keep the Philippines all to themselves. So cut the regular posters some slack when they make their small demands. You have to admit that it is very unselfish behavior to share information that encourages more people to visit these fun islands.

Nevertheless, there are always new contributors who come along and add a lot. Us regulars should try not to discourage anyone.

I guess this would be my advice to any newcomer who has questions. 1) rtff 2) tell us a little about yourself (nothing personal of course) 3) magic word = please 4) give more info about what you want to do, when, budget, time frame etc. 5)?

And the most important thing would be to add something after the trip. Thanks for the reality check Dante2. X.


Are the people who keep saying this "you can't ask questions until you post a TR" moderators?

Let me give you an (overdramatic) analogy:

Me: hey its my buddy steve irvin (ya I know he is dead just go with it)

Steve: krikey!

Me: I was thinking about learning to catch snakes you think you could give me any tips.

Steve: Well sure ole buddy but I got me a little rule, if you want me to give you any pointers you go out and catch yourself 3 black mambers and bring them back to me, once you do that ill answer any questions you like.

Me: Umm, ummmmmm, ok nevermind I'll go take up basket weaving instead.

Fast Eddie 48
03-27-13, 01:09
Hi everyone,

Longtime China mongerer here. First post in many, many years.

I'm going to be hitting up the Philippines in a few weeks, landing in Angeles City. I really want to enjoy some beaches. But also want some incredibly filthy nasty sex. The type you just can't seem to pay for here in China.

I haven't scoured the Phil forums, but thought I'd ask:

Where can a fella go to find the most low-down dirty ladies? Here in south China, it's easy to find short-timers. But nearly impossible to find anyone who provides anything approaching "quality service."

Any sure-shot recommendations?Chairman Mao 69,

I work for a US company with factory in China go to Shanghai and Hong kong 4 time a yr, mongering in China have change alot the last 5 yr with crack down and most sauna is closed down now China have been on top of my list for a long time, some of best service and vaule I ever have is at sauna in China but I think AC is a better Mongering now with GFE and good Vaule, if you want dirty flithy sex go to Thailand or Brazil.

Fast Eddie 48

Undercoverh
03-27-13, 03:06
I have not posted here recently, however I make regular trips to AC (7 times a year) since I have an apartment with my 22 yo girlfriend (who just graduated from college and starting teaching). I live in HK, so making regular trips to AC is no problem for me. My girlfriend was a virgin when I met her 3 years ago and it was wonderful to have sex with a virgin and eat virgin pussy (so small, tight, and super soft). Everything about sex is all new to her (and that makes me feel young again).

Her pussy was very very tight, it took me 15 minutes just to get my little willie inside of her cherry. Also, there was blood on the sheets the first and second night. The first night, I actually felt her heymen tear (sort of a weird feeling) and she made sounds of pain. I could not stop because she felt so good and tight and I had to shot my warm love juice inside of her no matter what. She is only 4'11" and her small petite size is a real turn for me with her small cute breast with nipples that point and her (till this day) tight pussy. It is pure joy to see that little mouth giving me a BJ and teaching her how to do it correctly (to my liking). She lets me shoot my sperm in her with no problem and she is happy if she has my baby. She loves me, so I would be happy to take care of her and our baby (if we have one) but she and baby must stay in the Philippines.

She cooks for me, keeps a house, and bangs me when I want with no problem. All is good. Except, I am a guy. Which means I want to try different pussy sometimes. I have been having sex with her and not going to Hong Kong or AC hoookers. For me, now that I am older, it is nice having sex, and not having to pay for it, from a woman that loves me. However, on my recent visit to Iloilo (without my girlfriend) , there were tons of young cute regular girls in the SM mall there! I had a hard on just walking around the mall. From that point on, I was on the hunt for new pussy.

While I was in Iloilo, I texted my gf in AC to tell her I would be late by 2 days to AC (due to flight delays-which was a lie). I arrived in AC and headed to a hotel near Santos street with the intent of having sex with a condom with a few girls then head over to my apartment with my gf. One big problem, there were a lot of nice young cute girls on Santos street and Raymond street (I think this is the correct name of the street) at the BJ little bars. I had every intent of just having nice sex with a condom, but the BJ was soooooo good and their pussies sooooo wet, I had bareback sex with 3 different girls. And not just sex one time with each of them. The sex was so good, I had repeated sex with each girl over a two day period. And I would cum in them with no problem for them. Each girl stayed with me for at least 8 hours, one stayed for 12 hours which was all spent in the bedroom having repeated sex.

I am amazed that Filipinas at bars will be happy to "f" you with no condom and let you shoot your sperm inside of them. And that goes for Filipinas that are not hookers. All of the regular girls I have dated in the Philippines will drop their panties and let you stick your "willie" in them and shot your load with no effort to stop you (at least this has been my experience). I have been to other parts of Asia and more often, a condom is required and no kissing sometimes (where as Filipinas hookers will tongue kiss you (at least this has been my experience).

I feel bad about having unprotected sex with hookers while I have a good gf. One month after I got back to HK, I got checked for HIV and I do not have it. Also, little willie looks fine. I was lucky and will not do that again (e. G, sex with hookers with no condom).

I wonder, have a lot of members here find it easy to have sex with AC girls with no condoms? I find Filipina hookers to be more sweet then hookers from other countries (e. G, HK, China, Japan, etc) and willing to have a real sex encounter (e. G, bare back BJ and sex). Is this just my experience, or would a other members agree with me?

Ekspat
03-27-13, 10:36
I am amazed that Filipinas at bars will be happy to "f" you with no condom and let you shoot your sperm inside of them. And that goes for Filipinas that are not hookers. All of the regular girls I have dated in the Philippines will drop their panties and let you stick your "willie" in them and shot your load with no effort to stop you (at least this has been my experience). I have been to other parts of Asia and more often, a condom is required and no kissing sometimes (where as Filipinas hookers will tongue kiss you (at least this has been my experience).

I wonder, have a lot of members here find it easy to have sex with AC girls with no condoms? I find Filipina hookers to be more sweet then hookers from other countries (e. G, HK, China, Japan, etc) and willing to have a real sex encounter (e. G, bare back BJ and sex). Is this just my experience, or would a other members agree with me?Same my experience, can't agree more.

Cheers!

SureMan
03-27-13, 10:53
Hi,

Senior members, will it be a problem for an Indian guy from Guyana in Angles city, as I have read that Indian from India have a bead rep.

We are different from those guys as we only speak English as our lifestyle is totally different. We are totally party guys with no hang ups.

Also we are not cheap, knows how to treat women kindly. By the way I am a Canadian Citizen but moved back to Guyana about 17 years.

I am now 52 years, so time to start this hobby.

Thanks Sureman.

Nvslim
03-27-13, 12:00
Should be a report of distinction. If only we could only get more of these, rather than guys arguing spanish / american war history, macro economics, and playing armchair political pundits. Maybe we'd get fewer stupid questions. We'll, I'm sure there'd always be a few of those.Why did you post the whole damn quote. Please learn to snip and shorten your requotes. We will all appreciate it.

Slim

GreenBud
03-27-13, 12:03
Insomnia now has the Insomnia Babes. They do a decent choregraphed routine. But the barfines for the Insomnia Babes is 3000 pesos. Irritating that some of those same girls were 1895 pesos last year. And they can't or don't want to leave before 11 PM. Insomnia WAS my favorite bar. Now it has 2 levels of barfines. Higher / dual barfines are spreading. :(

I was surprised by the quality of a few of the girls at Santos street. At Shadows, the short time barfine was 700 pesos. Of course you have many ugly ones, but a few were decent. One of the cute ones said that she averages 5 customers a day. Hence that would be 5 X 350 pesos per day. More than the 1400 or 1500 the 3000 pesos girl would get at the other bars. I guess some of the cute ones can make more money if she hustles.

The attitude of some of the girls is poor. Some were asking how much tip will you give me. Some, after they agreed to 3 hours, wanted to leave after 2.

Many of the cute girls won't do BJs. It seems that percentage is higher than 10 years ago. Of course, I bet that most "moms" working at Angeles will do BJs.

Saw a police raid on Camelot on Saturday night. One of the girls at the other bars said that a 16 year old was working there.

Angeles is still a shithole. But I still like it, but less and less every year.

Run Mann
03-27-13, 13:58
Why did you post the whole damn quote. Please learn to snip and shorten your requotes. We will all appreciate it.

SlimI get that you are the Quote Police Constable but the poster already admitted he made a mistake. He even asked for and received technical assistance on how to quote a post. Save your admonitions for when they are really needed or you will be as much of a pest as termites you're trying to exterminate.

Grey77
03-27-13, 15:35
I Am making a very last minute trip to Angeles this weekend as part of a work trip. I looked at booking the ABC but their basic rooms are filled leaving only some higher end suites at $200+ a night available which I would have a hard time justifying on my expense account, I next looked at the Dollhouse to be right in the middle of the action but they are booked as well.

I see several other hotels in the area most around $50 a night which is well under what I can expense.

Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.

Sammon
03-27-13, 16:50
I Am making a very last minute trip to Angeles this weekend as part of a work trip. I looked at booking the ABC but their basic rooms are filled leaving only some higher end suites at $200+ a night available which I would have a hard time justifying on my expense account, I next looked at the Dollhouse to be right in the middle of the action but they are booked as well.

I see several other hotels in the area most around $50 a night which is well under what I can expense.

Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.Anything is possible in Phi. You talk to the manager of the hotel and pay say $50 room rate and ask him to give you a reciept for $150. You may have to tip him $20. Good luck

Irony Monger
03-27-13, 17:09
Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.That's just asking for trouble. Seriously, you can't fork out PHP 1500 for your own barfine?

Anyway, if the hotel will be billed to work, presumably they will be able to see where you stayed, so you may actually want something a bit away from the main action on Fields. Some of the larger Perimeter hotels like the Savannah have nice suites in your price range and may provide some plausible deniability. It's a trike ride away from the main fields bars, but there are Perimeter bars within easy walking distance.

ThatGuy865
03-27-13, 19:41
Hi,

Senior members, will it be a problem for an Indian guy from Guyana in Angles city, as I have read that Indian from India have a bead rep.

We are different from those guys as we only speak English as our lifestyle is totally different. We are totally party guys with no hang ups.

Also we are not cheap, knows how to treat women kindly. By the way I am a Canadian Citizen but moved back to Guyana about 17 years.

I am now 52 years, so time to start this hobby.

Thanks Sureman.The girls will not know the difference between you or a Malaysian or anyone else of color for that matter. The girls do NOT discriminate for the most part.

Sure some have a preference but there will be MORE that will like you than those who won't. Go. You'll have the time of your life. I guarantee it.

Grey77
03-27-13, 21:12
Thank you Irony. I will look at the Savannah, and no its not a matter of saving the 1500 or whatever, its more a matter of really not wanting to turn in hotel bills for $40 a night on report, sometimes under spending can actually cause as many issues as overspending.

I'm looking forward to finally getting to see Angeles and making some reports of my own instead of just reading everyone else's and wishing I was there.

Buko Max
03-27-13, 21:53
Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.Welcome to the board! Lewis Grand would be another hotel I would recommend although further from Fields but close to perimeter bars. Report back on what you decided and your experience.

http://lewisgrand.com/rates-reservations/

Psychman
03-27-13, 23:47
I Am making a very last minute trip to Angeles this weekend as part of a work trip. I looked at booking the ABC but their basic rooms are filled leaving only some higher end suites at $200+ a night available which I would have a hard time justifying on my expense account, I next looked at the Dollhouse to be right in the middle of the action but they are booked as well.

I see several other hotels in the area most around $50 a night which is well under what I can expense.

Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.As stated, you might have a very hard time getting a ERW included in the price of your hotel. Maybe some of the hotels that have bars attached to them (I. E. Clarkston) , but I don't know. What you can do, and I have done this, is negotiate with a hotel on having a fifty dollar food and bar limit added to your room fee. This way, you can select a hundred dollar room, have them bill you, and include this as part of your hotel costs. This would save money for other activities, or allow you to use any per diem for EWR.

Ej2208
03-28-13, 02:20
I Am making a very last minute trip to Angeles this weekend as part of a work trip. I looked at booking the ABC but their basic rooms are filled leaving only some higher end suites at $200+ a night available which I would have a hard time justifying on my expense account, I next looked at the Dollhouse to be right in the middle of the action but they are booked as well.

I see several other hotels in the area most around $50 a night which is well under what I can expense.

Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.Grey,

Try Wild Orchid or Bourbon hotel they don't have EWR but are close to the Action (1 minute walk). Also its on Santos street next to the BJ bars short time is only 700 pesos.

Http://www.wildorchidresort.com/

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http://rovimar.com/

EJ

Chairmanmao69
03-28-13, 06:05
Chris Long in Angeles City.

Mongering in Angeles City:

I am going to write a quick how to guide for newbies who have never been to AC before.

Live to Monger, Monger to Live.

Chris LongI don't want to clutter up the board with irrelevant posts. But do want to send a big thanks to you guys who shared some great info, or just words of support.

Everyone's got to start on the ground floor when it's your first time setting foot in a new country, and I appreciate those of you who took the time to share some of your knowledge and experience.

Now. Back to zoning out on anticipation of barebacking as many spinners as I can get my hands on in 5 days!

RCA Knight
03-28-13, 07:37
I am in AC now, staying 3 nights on purpose on a transit. After all these years. 15 plus years and 10 trips or so, still very hard for me to get addicted to this place. There is a slight tansportation improvement. Outside Clark

Airport, there is a air-con jeepney that go to SM mall. 30 pesos, from there you can walk to Fields hotels. Reccomend for people without luggages.

A lot of talk about barebacking. Well, that's why these Philippines addicts see here as motherland. But from my experiences, these handful of younger, cuter, flat stomach, ones are very stuck up, maybe worse than their Thai sisters,

You can hardly get even a CBJ from them now, this category is more rarer in Philippines, so they behave worse and worse each trip I come.

But besides this rare star category, all other workers probably will have no problem let you shoot bare back 3 min after she meets you, some people call it girlfriendly, well, some people may call it ignorance. You can call it.

Whatever you like.

For people who frequent CP, this would be a very tough place to satisfy you. Players from CP are so used to extreme quality, and suddenly you land in AC, you will have a pretty tough time adjust to Pinoy standard, as I said before, people.

Love here for the the hidden secret, the girls are not pretty, even spotlight girls can hardly match the CP bbs cheapies, but these Pinoy addicts love their motherland for the "fun" factor.

3 nights, went through so many bars, I probably spent more money on drinks than pay bar. I have to be honest, I personally could not find one with nice passable face and a sexy slim body, always had to compromise and compromise when time getting late.

I bar fined 2 in 3 nights, one from Golden Nile, at 2600 pay bar, and one spotlight Doll House at 3000, both turned out to be very boring as expected, BBBJ, one out of 2, I also tested the resistability to no condom, both scored high, they totally resisted, so again the younger nicer category do resist in my experiences. (well, up to 6-7 yeras ago, very few resisted in Philippines, even cuter ones).

I still not a guy that can only focus on the so called total girlfriendliness that you can poke sashimi and CIM any time, maybe when I get to 70, I may change my liking and start to enjoy AC more, as for now, I still enjoy cute face, gorgeous

Body and skin tone of young women for my hobby, so AC will still be a very occasional hunting ground for a long while.

Red Kilt
03-28-13, 08:17
I am in AC now, staying 3 nights on purpose on a transit. After all these years. 15 plus years and 10 trips or so, still very hard for me to get addicted to this place. There is a slight tansportation improvement. Outside Clark

Airport, there is a air-con jeepney that go to SM mall. 30 pesos, from there you can walk to Fields hotels. Reccomend for people without luggages.

. Snip. .RCA K if you bothered to preview your post or even read it after you posted you would have seen that there is NO NEED to use hard returns at the end of every line.

The software wraps it automatically for you.

Re-read your post and see how disjointed it is for others to read.

Anyway. Seems like you are having a quite negative experience. If you stayed around Holy Thursday and Good Friday you would really have something to complain about due to the lack of substantial action on those days

RCA Knight
03-28-13, 10:40
RCA K if you bothered to preview your post or even read it after you posted you would have seen that there is NO NEED to use hard returns at the end of every line.Sorry, I am using a new tiny computer, and still not used to this tiny gadget.

I also like to point out that after all these years, the AC gogo bars are still like chimneys. Not only all Koreans smoke, the mamasans, waitresses, and gogo dancers resting, many of them also smoke. As I am getting older, from yong yong to middle age, my nose is aging 10 times faster, I had to switch seats, like playing hide and seeek all night in these AC bars to get away from these chimneys.

A little salute to Thai gogo counterparts, Nana and Soi Cow have become very enjoyable recent years, these chimney bars are almost gone in Thailand, AC and Philippines probably won't follow for many more years.

Ekspat
03-28-13, 10:48
these chimney bars are almost gone in Thailand, AC and Philippines probably won't follow for many more years.Yeah, thank god, let's hope so.

Sxxxx
03-28-13, 11:06
.I also like to point out that after all these years, the AC gogo bars are still like chimneys. .these chimney bars are almost gone in Thailand, AC and Philippines probably won't follow for many more years.We have got something in the Philippines you have not got in Thailand, a totally smoke free city, that means totally, and everywhere, except perhaps outdoors.

Name: Davao City. Been like that for some time now.

Pip Jaeger
03-28-13, 11:22
Hi,

Senior members, will it be a problem for an Indian guy from Guyana in Angles city, as I have read that Indian from India have a bead rep.

We are different from those guys as we only speak English as our lifestyle is totally different. We are totally party guys with no hang ups.

Also we are not cheap, knows how to treat women kindly. By the way I am a Canadian Citizen but moved back to Guyana about 17 years.

I am now 52 years, so time to start this hobby.

Thanks Sureman.To a point you are correct, many of the girls stereotype foreigners and many will not go with Indians, Blacks, Koreans, etc. For various reasons. But keep in mind that there's thousands of girls working in AC. You may have to work a little harder, but I'm sure you'll find girls there who will satisfy your needs.

All of the girls will ask where you're from, tell them you're South American / Spanish (they won't have any idea where Guyana is, most don't even the geography of their own country, LOL). When I was there in Jan I noticed a group of about 10-12 "India" Indians staying at the Wild Orchid Inn (I was staying in the Bourbon St Condos and used the WOI pool / resto a few times) , I think they may have been part of a sports team. Although they were mostly intent on getting drunk and staying that way all day, I did see several of them with some very attractive bar girls in tow.

I would suggest that when you go into a bar you keep an eye out for girls that pay attention to you and not just for the purpose of getting you to buy lady's drinks. Also do a careful interview before you get too involved when you are hanging out with them in the bar. I mean to say, before you open your wallet too wide, make sure the girl is not on her mens (most common way for a girl to politely decline you) or a cherry girl. This is not to say you should not buy a girl a LD, but before I buy the second one I'd make sure she is interested and able to go with you.

Good luck and good hunting, but remember YMMV

Grey77
03-28-13, 14:02
Thanks for the helpful hints everyone, unfortunately seems all the nicer hotels such as ABC, Wild Orchard and Bourbon are already booked.

Not that I really mind staying in some place a little less fancy, or that I was worried about trying to save a few bucks, its just spending so little on a room especially in a country we haven't sent people previously is a dangerous precedent to set, but I guess if that's what there is that's what there is. Now I just hope the holiday weekend doesn't effect the experience too much being my first visit.

Thanks again for everyone who offered advice.

P. S I noticed looking through the picture thread that all the photos seem to have the girls faced blocked, is this due to their request or a board rule? Want to make sure I don't upset anyone when I post photos and reports from visit.

Pip Jaeger
03-28-13, 14:32
Chris Long in Angeles City.

You will also find Cuba Cuba sports bar and casino on Santos.

I DO NOT LIKE CUBA CUBA.

Sorry I had to get that out, BUT I HOPE THE PLACE CHANGES ITS PRACTICES; Cuba Cuba employs some very attractive waitresses and guest relation girls who give the impression they are available for takeout. To me this is a SCAM they put themselves out like they are available for takeout only to find out that they are just there to get you to buy ficha drinks for them and run up your bar tab, in the end they refuse to go with you, YOU CAN FORGET CUBA CUBA. I had a dismal success rate there less than 10. From my experience the girls are just there to get you to buy them lady drinks and run up your tab and they rarely go with you. To me this is deceitful business, places like Kokomos and Phillies higher attractive waitresses but it's understood that they are not for takeout. Just like any bar / restaurant in the states if you have game and looks you could probably pick them up maybe even a little easier than in the states but they are not giving the illusion they are for takeout. Cuba Cuba does try to give you that impression the girls are available, but the girls are just there to run up your bar tab and rarely will they go with you, personally I would avoid this place.

I hereby place my Chicago Cubs Billy Goat curse on Cuba Cuba and hope the place either changes its practice or goes under. LOL. Chris Long
Great TR Chris. I have followed your TR's on various boards and enjoyed them all. HOWEVER, I must strongly oppose your statement on Cuba Cuba. Respectfully that is.

I just left AC last weekend, and was also there the 1st 2 weeks of February and the Cuba Cuba is my bar of choice. 65 peso house drinks and local beer, A great poker room with good tourneys, good food at reasonable prices, nice seating areas, and of course GIRLS. You are correct, they are not all going home with you, but that is where you have to do a little weeding out. I found some GREAT 1's and HOT that went with me for 1000 LT. Yep that's right 1000 LT! That's the good thing about this bar is there is no set price on your gals. You get what you can get.

I enjoyed bullshitting with the girls, and they were NEVER pressing me for LD's. If I wanted to get them some I did otherwise we just sat around talking. THe sports were always on, and I was there for the ACC tourney and they found my games when I wanted.

I LOVE CUBA CUBA!Chris, I too have enjoyed your trip reports and have often found them very informative as well as a good resource, but I agree with KC on this one and I oppose your harsh criticism of Cuba Cuba. I understand we all have own opinions, especially when it comes to the bars / clubs in AC, and it sounds like your experience at Cuba Cuba (CC) was not a good one. But how often did you visit? How much time did you spend there? Could your negative experience be the result of just having a bad day?

As I was staying in the Bourbon St Condos (right above CC) I frequented this place quite often and at various times of the day. I was there in late Jan and again in early March (same time as you) for total of about 19 days. Sorry you didn't have a chance to call me, I probably would have suggested we meet there, LOL. It proved a good meeting place and a good place for me to hang out sometimes while I was waiting for my girls to get ready before going out. In addition, I ate there several times too. The food there is good and not too expensive. I chatted with several of the GRO's and waitresses. I also had the chance to observe them when customers came in and how they interacted with them.

Most of the time the girls never even approached customers, they would wait until they were called over and never did I see any pushy behavior or witness any of them aggressively asking for LD's. For the most part the GRO's hung out at the corner by the grill or inside at one end of the bar and waited for customers to approach or signal them to come over. Most of the GRO's don't start showing up until about 3 or 4pm, but it seemed like there was always a few of them hanging out.

One thing I did find out that I thought was peculiar in way was that you could buy a LD (150php) for a waitress, but they could not sit with you at all. They were there to serve food & drinks only, however some of them will go with you after their shift is over. All you have to do is ask.

As a point of reference, most of the waitresses wore club issued T shirts with "waitress" printed on the back and the GRO's just wore simple T shirts with CC printed on the front. There were also a few girls, possibly FL's not affiliated with CC, in plain street clothes as unescorted ladies are also welcome.

There is no structured bar fine here and no mamasan to deal with. You work out your own deal with the girls, but I did notice they tended to be pickier on who they did approach and perhaps who they will go with too. The LT prices that were quoted to me ranged from 800p from some of the more homely looking ones to 1, 500 for the cuter looking ones. I did over hear one of the hotter girls (a spinner and a solid 9 in my book) quote a Korean guy 3, 000p for ST only. He had bought her a few drinks (on own his accord, she never asked) , but he left alone.

On that particular day, I was there having a late lunch with my gf (JJ) and another girl (GF3) ; JJ and the CC girl had been making eyes at each other. After the Korean left JJ cracked a joke with her; saying that she would not have gone with the guy for twice that (JJ doesn't like Koreans). The CC girl told JJ that she didn't really like Asian guys in general, but when it was slow would go ST with them if they agreed to her price. JJ asked me if she could invite the girl to join us; I quipped that at 3K for ST then she might be too high class for us. JJ, GF3 and the girl then switched to a hushed rapid fire Tagalog exchange. JJ turned to me and, barely able to contain her laughter, simply said "free for me, but 1, 200p for you". I later found out that this girl will usually try for 2, 000p, but will quickly drop to 1, 500p or even lower if she really likes the guy and wants to f*ck him.

Needless to say the girl joined us, I voluntarily bought her a LD and we subsequently went upstairs. We had a nice long session that night and I popped her twice again the next day; JJ, GF3 and the CC girl stayed in bed most of the day and played for hours. If we didn't already have plans I would've asked her to stay for a second night. As it was she stayed until about 3pm, then she went back to work at CC. I gave her a generous tip and bought her a late lunch on another day with the intent of a repeat, but she had just gotten her period. JJ and her had hit it off,"friended" each other on FB and still text each other, so I'm sure I'll see the CC girl again when I return.

For anyone reading this, I wouldn't write off Cuba Cuba based solely on Chris's report. As always YMMV, so go there and see for yourself. If for no other reason it's good place to eat and watch the street action on Santos St. They also serve breakfast. I recommend the pancakes with fruit; two good sized, light and fluffy pancakes, topped with a half of a chopped banana and half of a chopped mango, warm maple syrup and a dollop of butter for 190p.

They also have a decent live band there on Friday and Saturday nights (no cover charge) ; I think they start at about 5 or 6pm.

Chocha Monger
03-28-13, 17:51
While I was in Iloilo, I texted my gf in AC to tell her I would be late by 2 days to AC (due to flight delays-which was a lie). I arrived in AC and headed to a hotel near Santos street with the intent of having sex with a condom with a few girls then head over to my apartment with my gf. One big problem, there were a lot of nice young cute girls on Santos street and Raymond street (I think this is the correct name of the street) at the BJ little bars. I had every intent of just having nice sex with a condom, but the BJ was soooooo good and their pussies sooooo wet, I had bareback sex with 3 different girls. And not just sex one time with each of them. The sex was so good, I had repeated sex with each girl over a two day period. And I would cum in them with no problem for them. Each girl stayed with me for at least 8 hours, one stayed for 12 hours which was all spent in the bedroom having repeated sex.

I am amazed that Filipinas at bars will be happy to "f" you with no condom and let you shoot your sperm inside of them. And that goes for Filipinas that are not hookers. All of the regular girls I have dated in the Philippines will drop their panties and let you stick your "willie" in them and shot your load with no effort to stop you (at least this has been my experience). I have been to other parts of Asia and more often, a condom is required and no kissing sometimes (where as Filipinas hookers will tongue kiss you (at least this has been my experience).

I feel bad about having unprotected sex with hookers while I have a good gf. One month after I got back to HK, I got checked for HIV and I do not have it. Also, little willie looks fine. I was lucky and will not do that again (e. G, sex with hookers with no condom).

I wonder, have a lot of members here find it easy to have sex with AC girls with no condoms? I find Filipina hookers to be more sweet then hookers from other countries (e. G, HK, China, Japan, etc) and willing to have a real sex encounter (e. G, bare back BJ and sex). Is this just my experience, or would a other members agree with me?Bareback aka skinless sex is de rigueur in the Philippines. All mongers who frequent there bareback or will eventually do so. Filipinas love and accept it raw-dog because that is the only way their Filipino boyfriends serve it to them. Another board member recounted to me his experience of picking up a package of condoms in a Manila post office that he ordered from overseas. He was jeered by the Filipino postal workers who told him that bareback sex was much better and that none of them used condoms. So, it's no surprise that the girls don't even blink when you serve up that raw herring.

Chris Long
03-28-13, 19:09
Chris, I too have enjoyed your trip reports and have often found them very informative as well as a good resource, but I agree with KC on this one and I oppose your harsh criticism of Cuba Cuba. I understand we all have own opinions, especially when it comes to the bars / clubs in AC, and it sounds like your experience at Cuba Cuba (CC) was not a good one. But how often did you visit? How much time did you spend there? Could your negative experience be the result of just having a bad day?

As I was staying in the Bourbon St Condos (right above CC) I frequented this place quite often and at various times of the day. I was there in late Jan and again in early March (same time as you) for total of about 19 days. Sorry you didn't have a chance to call me, I probably would have suggested we meet there, LOL. It proved a good meeting place and a good place for me to hang out sometimes while I was waiting for my girls to get ready before going out. In addition, I ate there several times too. The food there is good and not too expensive. I chatted with several of the GRO's and waitresses. I also had the chance to observe them when customers came in and how they interacted with them.

Most of the time the girls never even approached customers, they would wait until they were called over and never did I see any pushy behavior or witness any of them aggressively asking for LD's. For the most part the GRO's hung out at the corner by the grill or inside at one end of the bar and waited for customers to approach or signal them to come over. Most of the GRO's don't start showing up until about 3 or 4pm, but it seemed like there was always a few of them hanging out.

One thing I did find out that I thought was peculiar in way was that you could buy a LD (150php) for a waitress, but they could not sit with you at all. They were there to serve food & drinks only, however some of them will go with you after their shift is over. All you have to do is ask.

As a point of reference, most of the waitresses wore club issued T shirts with "waitress" printed on the back and the GRO's just wore simple T shirts with CC printed on the front. There were also a few girls, possibly FL's not affiliated with CC, in plain street clothes as unescorted ladies are also welcome.

There is no structured bar fine here and no mamasan to deal with. You work out your own deal with the girls, but I did notice they tended to be pickier on who they did approach and perhaps who they will go with too. The LT prices that were quoted to me ranged from 800p from some of the more homely looking ones to 1, 500 for the cuter looking ones. I did over hear one of the hotter girls (a spinner and a solid 9 in my book) quote a Korean guy 3, 000p for ST only. He had bought her a few drinks (on own his accord, she never asked) , but he left alone.

On that particular day, I was there having a late lunch with my gf (JJ) and another girl (GF3) ; JJ and the CC girl had been making eyes at each other. After the Korean left JJ cracked a joke with her; saying that she would not have gone with the guy for twice that (JJ doesn't like Koreans). The CC girl told JJ that she didn't really like Asian guys in general, but when it was slow would go ST with them if they agreed to her price. JJ asked me if she could invite the girl to join us; I quipped that at 3K for ST then she might be too high class for us. JJ, GF3 and the girl then switched to a hushed rapid fire Tagalog exchange. JJ turned to me and, barely able to contain her laughter, simply said "free for me, but 1, 200p for you". I later found out that this girl will usually try for 2, 000p, but will quickly drop to 1, 500p or even lower if she really likes the guy and wants to f*ck him.

Needless to say the girl joined us, I voluntarily bought her a LD and we subsequently went upstairs. We had a nice long session that night and I popped her twice again the next day; JJ, GF3 and the CC girl stayed in bed most of the day and played for hours. If we didn't already have plans I would've asked her to stay for a second night. As it was she stayed until about 3pm, then she went back to work at CC. I gave her a generous tip and bought her a late lunch on another day with the intent of a repeat, but she had just gotten her period. JJ and her had hit it off,"friended" each other on FB and still text each other, so I'm sure I'll see the CC girl again when I return.

For anyone reading this, I wouldn't write off Cuba Cuba based solely on Chris's report. As always YMMV, so go there and see for yourself. If for no other reason it's good place to eat and watch the street action on Santos St. They also serve breakfast. I recommend the pancakes with fruit; two good sized, light and fluffy pancakes, topped with a half of a chopped banana and half of a chopped mango, warm maple syrup and a dollop of butter for 190p.

They also have a decent live band there on Friday and Saturday nights (no cover charge) ; I think they start at about 5 or 6pm.Hey Pip Jaeger sorry I didn't contact you when I was in AC I hit the ground running and never looked back, you're probably right about Cuba Cuba it's a YMMV kind of place. But I think many many mongers are going to end up like me walking away VERY VERY DISAPOINTED in Cuba Cuba, admittedly I'm 50ish over weight and unattractive and this may have had something to do with it. But I try to compensate by being very friendly and amiable. What sours me is if I wanted to be shot down because of my looks I could stay in the states and get that I don't need to travel to the other side of the planet to face rejection. Like Pip Jaeger says there's no bar fine no Momason and the girls are very very picky on whom they go with. If you have looks, game and youth you will probably be able to pick up in Cuba Cuba. If you're like me a 50 something monger carrying a few more pounds than necessary and definitely not a Tom Cruise or Denzel Washington you're probably going to be VERY VERY DISAPOINTED in Cuba Cuba and face a lot of rejection from the so called guest relations officers and walk away alone felling the sting of rejection and like the place is a waste of time and rip off.

I would prefer the place either not have guest relation officers and just promote themselves as restaurant / bar / casino somewhat like Kokomos or Phillies or have the guest relation officers be more accessible to the average monger and not so prudish. I think most mongers fit my description in one or more ways and I think more mongers than not are going to have the same opinion and the same experience that I had in Cuba Cuba, A Bad One.

If you have looks, game and youth then Cuba Cuba is probably the place for you (but if you have all of this there's no need to travel to the other side of the planet your probably doing pretty good at home). But if you are like me, the average monger you can probably write Cuba Cuba off, that is until the GRO end there prudishness and make themselves more accessible to the average monger like us. Until that happens the average monger is better off at other establishments.

Chris

Screaming Beaver
03-28-13, 21:07
Bareback aka skinless sex is de rigueur in the Philippines. All mongers who frequent there bareback or will eventually do so. Filipinas love and accept it raw-dog because that is the only way their Filipino boyfriends serve it to them. Another board member recounted to me his experience of picking up a package of condoms in a Manila post office that he ordered from overseas. He was jeered by the Filipino postal workers who told him that bareback sex was much better and that none of them used condoms. So, it's no surprise that the girls don't even blink when you serve up that raw herring.He was lucky to get the product delivered to him via the Flip Post Office. Your chances of getting anything without it being stolen are about 50 percent in this country. It was probably opened but once they saw it was condoms they determined it had no real value except to wait for the recipient to show up and mock him for wearing raincoats.

Fast Eddie 48
03-28-13, 22:29
I Am making a very last minute trip to Angeles this weekend as part of a work trip. I looked at booking the ABC but their basic rooms are filled leaving only some higher end suites at $200+ a night available which I would have a hard time justifying on my expense account, I next looked at the Dollhouse to be right in the middle of the action but they are booked as well.

I see several other hotels in the area most around $50 a night which is well under what I can expense.

Can anyone suggest something a little nicer for me close to the action, or possible someplace that would include an EWR as part of my "room rate" every evening, if I keep the room around $150 a night I can charge it to work.To Grey,

Your first post you want to scam your company to get some free EWR, if you boss found out you can lose your job there are no business in AC other than Monkey business P4P and entertament is so cheap here just paid for it yourself, my company always question me on my expensive report if it don't look right they just reject it.

Fast Eddie 48

BlueSeoul
03-29-13, 12:55
I am in AC now, staying 3 nights on purpose on a transit. After all these years. 15 plus years and 10 trips or so, still very hard for me to get addicted to this place. There is a slight tansportation improvement. Outside Clark

Airport, there is a air-con jeepney that go to SM mall. 30 pesos, from there you can walk to Fields hotels. Reccomend for people without luggages.

A lot of talk about barebacking. Well, that's why these Philippines addicts see here as motherland. But from my experiences, these handful of younger, cuter, flat stomach, ones are very stuck up, maybe worse than their Thai sisters,

You can hardly get even a CBJ from them now, this category is more rarer in Philippines, so they behave worse and worse each trip I come.

But besides this rare star category, all other workers probably will have no problem let you shoot bare back 3 min after she meets you, some people call it girlfriendly, well, some people may call it ignorance. You can call it.

Whatever you like.

For people who frequent CP, this would be a very tough place to satisfy you. Players from CP are so used to extreme quality, and suddenly you land in AC, you will have a pretty tough time adjust to Pinoy standard, as I said before, people.

Love here for the the hidden secret, the girls are not pretty, even spotlight girls can hardly match the CP bbs cheapies, but these Pinoy addicts love their motherland for the "fun" factor.

3 nights, went through so many bars, I probably spent more money on drinks than pay bar. I have to be honest, I personally could not find one with nice passable face and a sexy slim body, always had to compromise and compromise when time getting late.

I bar fined 2 in 3 nights, one from Golden Nile, at 2600 pay bar, and one spotlight Doll House at 3000, both turned out to be very boring as expected, BBBJ, one out of 2, I also tested the resistability to no condom, both scored high, they totally resisted, so again the younger nicer category do resist in my experiences. (well, up to 6-7 yeras ago, very few resisted in Philippines, even cuter ones).

I still not a guy that can only focus on the so called total girlfriendliness that you can poke sashimi and CIM any time, maybe when I get to 70, I may change my liking and start to enjoy AC more, as for now, I still enjoy cute face, gorgeous

Body and skin tone of young women for my hobby, so AC will still be a very occasional hunting ground for a long while.What is CP? I don't see it in the abbreviations list.

Pip Jaeger
03-29-13, 14:14
you're probably right about Cuba Cuba it's a YMMV kind of place. But I think many many mongers are going to end up like me walking away VERY VERY DISAPOINTED in Cuba Cuba, admittedly I'm 50ish over weight and unattractive and this may have had something to do with it.

I would prefer the place either not have guest relation officers and just promote themselves as restaurant / bar / casino somewhat like Kokomos or Phillies or have the guest relation officers be more accessible to the average monger and not so prudish.

If you have looks, game and youth then Cuba Cuba is probably the place for you (but if you have all of this there's no need to travel to the other side of the planet your probably doing pretty good at home). But if you are like me, the average monger you can probably write Cuba Cuba off, that is until the GRO end there prudishness and make themselves more accessible to the average monger like us. Until that happens the average monger is better off at other establishments.

ChrisNo problem Chris, I know how easy it is to get distracted with other "things" in AC; perhaps we'll catch up with each other at some other time.

My initial plan, upon learning that there were GRO's at Cuba Cuba and that they're available for takeout, had been to only prepare a FR for the board. I was working on that and had it on the back burner when your FR appeared.

And I guess I should point out that I was not really looking for company from there, so my perspective may have been different from yours. While I was in AC I already had at least 2 and up to 4 girls staying with me on any given day so I had more of an "I don't give a shit attitude" when it came to looking for girls. For me CC was just good place to eat and a convenient place to hang out; plus I wanted to gather intel for my report. If something good came along (like that one girl) I would take it, otherwise I was content with JJ's gf's and letting her pick out girls from the few "regular" bars that we did in fact go to. Perhaps if I was alone my experience there would have been different. However, I will stand by my observations about not seeing any aggressive behavior by the GRO's.

There's also something else to consider, the girls must be going with mongers otherwise they would not make any money. They would soon disappear from there and go back to the bars or tin shacks where they came from. All I can say is that in the late afternoons I would see 15 to 25 girls there and usually by 11pm their numbers had significantly dwindled. Where they went is anyone's guess, perhaps they simply moved to other venues such as Sky Trax or High Society.

As to your comments about a mongers age and appearance being a factor, perhaps you're right when it comes to these girls and possibly even more of the girls in AC, if you believe some of the recent FR's, are in general becoming pickier. However, I did see a few leave from CC with average looking older guys and when the slow season arrives I'm sure they'll be less selective. As a side note, on this trip I did notice quite a few younger guys in AC (as well as in Makati, Subic and especially in Cebu, but they seemed more of the "backpacker" crowd in Cebu) , but I think we older guys still out numbered them.

Only time will tell if the practice of having GRO's at CC will continue and more importantly be successful (both for them and the girls). Personally I think it will continue; after all, the bar really has nothing to lose. I'm sure some guys come in and have a drink or a meal in order to just scope out the girls. I also suspect that if CC didn't have their gambling revenue then they would most likely be taking a cut of the girls' revenue (other than LD's) and probably set up some kind of a structured EWR arrangement. Perhaps one day they will. I reckon we'll just have wait and see how it plays out, but I do hope it does not set a trend for bars to have fully "independent contractors" working at their establishments.

One thing I think mongers should remember about CC and I think you'll agree with me Chris. CC is a fully fledged FL bar and a monger would have no recourse if something went awry. Although I doubt something would happen, and I would feel more secure with a FL from here then I would from the street, caution should still be exercised if one of the prudes (LOL) decides to go with you. In addition, these girls are not required to get health checks; not that the checks are worth anything anyhow, I'm just saying.

Chris, you make a lot of valid points about CC and I would agree that the average monger, regardless of age or appearance and especially newbies, would be better off sticking to the regular bars if they are solely looking for girls. With two or three exceptions most of the GRO's there were average to sub-average in appearance. On the other hand, if a monger is looking for a place to get a good meal, perhaps shoot some pool, play poker or just hang out and have a beer as they watch the street action I think CC is a viable option.

Suffice it to say that this is a good example of how two mongers can visit a place during the same time frame and have a vastly different experience. We are in the same age bracket and I carry an extra few pounds. But in one aspect we are different, where you say you're not attractive I'm very gwapo; at least that's what girls there have told me and we all know Filipina's never tell a lie, LOL.

So Chris, I suppose when it comes to certain aspects pertaining to Cuba Cuba we'll have to agree to disagree (insert big grin).

Screaming Beaver
03-29-13, 14:56
The food is okay but overpriced compared to what you can get at many other venues a short walk away. It's a Sports Bar playing live games from all over the world. I was there watching the final game of the Baseball World Series at 6 in the morning back in October and also the American Football playoffs in January.

It's the best place in town to play cards which starts at 3pm. It's a great start to the evening before you go out and hit the bars. The GRO's at CC have only been around for a few months. Most of them look like shit so I've never even chatted with one. A couple months ago, one drunk patron grabbed one of the GRO's ass. The GRO had the slob arrested and taken to jail. He had to cough up a couple thousand dollars which the GRO got her cut so be careful. The waitresses are a lot hotter than the GRO's and I have been able to coax one to my room after her work ended and we still meet up when I'm in town. Speaking of GRO's, I saw a sign at Wild Orchid now advertising for GRO's. Hopefully they will be a lot hotter than CC.

Irony Monger
03-29-13, 17:36
To a point you are correct, many of the girls stereotype foreigners and many will not go with Indians, Blacks, Koreans, etc. For various reasons. But keep in mind that there's thousands of girls working in AC. You may have to work a little harder, but I'm sure you'll find girls there who will satisfy your needs.I would also recommend buying a drink for the mamasan and asking her what girls are fine with your ethnicity.

FruitNinja
03-29-13, 18:07
I would also recommend buying a drink for the mamasan and asking her what girls are fine with your ethnicity.I would recommend this no matter what.

Chris Long
03-29-13, 18:23
No problem Chris, I know how easy it is to get distracted with other "things" in AC; perhaps we'll catch up with each other at some other time.

My initial plan, upon learning that there were GRO's at Cuba Cuba and that they're available for takeout, had been to only prepare a FR for the board. I was working on that and had it on the back burner when your FR appeared.

And I guess I should point out that I was not really looking for company from there, so my perspective may have been different from yours. While I was in AC I already had at least 2 and up to 4 girls staying with me on any given day so I had more of an "I don't give a shit attitude" when it came to looking for girls. For me CC was just good place to eat and a convenient place to hang out; plus I wanted to gather intel for my report. If something good came along (like that one girl) I would take it, otherwise I was content with JJ's gf's and letting her pick out girls from the few "regular" bars that we did in fact go to. Perhaps if I was alone my experience there would have been different. However, I will stand by my observations about not seeing any aggressive behavior by the GRO's.

There's also something else to consider, the girls must be going with mongers otherwise they would not make any money. They would soon disappear from there and go back to the bars or tin shacks where they came from. All I can say is that in the late afternoons I would see 15 to 25 girls there and usually by 11pm their numbers had significantly dwindled. Where they went is anyone's guess, perhaps they simply moved to other venues such as Sky Trax or High Society.

As to your comments about a mongers age and appearance being a factor, perhaps you're right when it comes to these girls and possibly even more of the girls in AC, if you believe some of the recent FR's, are in general becoming pickier. However, I did see a few leave from CC with average looking older guys and when the slow season arrives I'm sure they'll be less selective. As a side note, on this trip I did notice quite a few younger guys in AC (as well as in Makati, Subic and especially in Cebu, but they seemed more of the "backpacker" crowd in Cebu) , but I think we older guys still out numbered them.

Only time will tell if the practice of having GRO's at CC will continue and more importantly be successful (both for them and the girls). Personally I think it will continue; after all, the bar really has nothing to lose. I'm sure some guys come in and have a drink or a meal in order to just scope out the girls. I also suspect that if CC didn't have their gambling revenue then they would most likely be taking a cut of the girls' revenue (other than LD's) and probably set up some kind of a structured EWR arrangement. Perhaps one day they will. I reckon we'll just have wait and see how it plays out, but I do hope it does not set a trend for bars to have fully "independent contractors" working at their establishments.

One thing I think mongers should remember about CC and I think you'll agree with me Chris. CC is a fully fledged FL bar and a monger would have no recourse if something went awry. Although I doubt something would happen, and I would feel more secure with a FL from here then I would from the street, caution should still be exercised if one of the prudes (LOL) decides to go with you. In addition, these girls are not required to get health checks; not that the checks are worth anything anyhow, I'm just saying.

Chris, you make a lot of valid points about CC and I would agree that the average monger, regardless of age or appearance and especially newbies, would be better off sticking to the regular bars if they are solely looking for girls. With two or three exceptions most of the GRO's there were average to sub-average in appearance. On the other hand, if a monger is looking for a place to get a good meal, perhaps shoot some pool, play poker or just hang out and have a beer as they watch the street action I think CC is a viable option.

Suffice it to say that this is a good example of how two mongers can visit a place during the same time frame and have a vastly different experience. We are in the same age bracket and I carry an extra few pounds. But in one aspect we are different, where you say you're not attractive I'm very gwapo; at least that's what girls there have told me and we all know Filipina's never tell a lie, LOL.

So Chris, I suppose when it comes to certain aspects pertaining to Cuba Cuba we'll have to agree to disagree (insert big grin).Hey Pip Jaeger, yes we will definitely have to catch up with each other one of these days. Don't know if you ever come to the Caribbean but I will be in the DR in couple weeks and Thailand for the month of June South America for the remainder of the summer.

I think you really hit the nail on the head when it comes to CC, like you said the average monger and especially newbies would be better off avoiding CC and sticking to regular bars when looking for girls.

I don't think management fully thought through the guest relations officer thing and how it could back fire on them. For every hansom Pip Jaeger monger who does good at CC there's probably ten or more average to below average mongers like myself who are going to get shot down hurt embarrassed leave the place and never come back and tell their friends to avoid the place. Having GRO creates an expectation that they can be had, having snobby GRO who shoot mongers down is bad for business and loses customers and gives the place a bad reputation. It would be better to not have GROs if they are going to be so snobby or require them to be available to the average and below average monger.

(Remember Ugly Guys Have Money Too)

Chris

Roaddog
03-29-13, 22:26
The food is okay but overpriced compared to what you can get at many other venues a short walk away. It's a Sports Bar playing live games from all over the world. I was there watching the final game of the Baseball World Series at 6 in the morning back in October and also the American Football playoffs in January.

It's the best place in town to play cards which starts at 3pm. It's a great start to the evening before you go out and hit the bars. The GRO's at CC have only been around for a few months. Most of them look like shit so I've never even chatted with one. A couple months ago, one drunk patron grabbed one of the GRO's ass. The GRO had the slob arrested and taken to jail. He had to cough up a couple thousand dollars which the GRO got her cut so be careful. The waitresses are a lot hotter than the GRO's and I have been able to coax one to my room after her work ended and we still meet up when I'm in town. Speaking of GRO's, I saw a sign at Wild Orchid now advertising for GRO's. Hopefully they will be a lot hotter than CC.Not to mention the cheap local drinks the food is a little salty but it was edible.

Chocha Monger
03-30-13, 06:08
He was lucky to get the product delivered to him via the Flip Post Office. Your chances of getting anything without it being stolen are about 50 percent in this country. It was probably opened but once they saw it was condoms they determined it had no real value except to wait for the recipient to show up and mock him for wearing raincoats.True! Condoms are one of the few things that will not be stolen if sent through the PI postal service. You'the have a hard time giving away condoms in that country. I know one Filipina who has 9 kids. The husband has never used a condom in his life and is always too drunk to withdraw when he roots her after giving her a good thrashing. Her family has begged her to get fixed at their expense or use pills. She refuses to do so and continues to breed. As soon as the kids are old enough to walk they invade the nearby houses of the more well off relatives to lie in front of the TV and wait until the rice is cooked. Parasitizing the hardworking members of the extended family allows the girls to accept deep delivery of random pinoy and poriner cream pies without the least concern about impregnation.

Tally Wacker
03-30-13, 06:46
Its funny how the two inbred brothers here bragg about barebacking filipinas with 9 kids and are ok impregnating them. They carefully say its a friend but we all know what they mean.

Sky Ryder
03-30-13, 08:04
What is CP? I don't see it in the abbreviations list.It is a great place to visit if you enjoy Chinese gals. Young, pretty, and plentiful. It is not as cheap as in the past and the GFE factor is almost zero. As a rule.

That being said, it is no other place on the planet.

I would add that one of the other attractive things about AC over CP is that almost all the AC gals speak passable English, almost none do in CP.

Grey77
04-01-13, 15:46
I just finished spending my first weekend in AC, I was a little worried going there reading some of the reports on here before hand, however it wasn't nearly as much of a hole as I was expecting from reading on here. The beggars and street vendors were much less aggressive than I remember in Puckett or Bangkok sure they were there but none of the beggars ever bothered me after I said no, and most of the street vendors could be discouraged with a shake of your head, A few you had to tell no several times but not many.

I never felt any sort of physical danger at all, sure its a developing country and things might not be as neat and clean as what your used to and if its your not use to visiting places like that it may seem scary but I would feel much safer walking down the street there at night than most any major city in The USA personally, not that I was there long enough to really "KNOW" but just an impression I really didn't ever feel in the least bit worried unlike in Brazil or Pretoria.

I visited most of the bars along the walking street at some time during the weekend except a couple of the largest that were just to darn crowded for me to want to deal with. Taste obviously varies but I found the quality to be pretty good typically I find when I go visiting beer bars in Thailand or Hostess clubs In China I have to bounce around several having a beer or two in each and somehow it's not till after the seventh or eight bar (even though it might be the same bar as I stopped in first, with the same girls on shift) do I find something I would think about taking home. Almost every bar I walked into in AC I could see at least one or two girls I would take home even though I was still dead sober.

I was quoted 1800 or 2K as EWR (actually it seems EWR is no longer an acceptable term and its called "party animal") every place I went except a couple places mentioned their "spotlight" dancers were 3k.

I thought Carousel had the best over all quality from what I saw, they seemed to have two levels of girls one level was on white and black spotted outfits and would be on the rotating stage, the other level was in either all black or orange outfits and would dance on the raised area on the outside of the stage that did not rotate, almost all of the "special" girls seemed doable to me and the EWR was the same for them as the regular girls.

As far as specific girls I took Jane out of Voodoo both Friday and Saturday night she was a cute young girl about 40 kilos 18 with no children and a tight body, she was very nice and very willing, her oral skills were lacking but I haven't had the luck to come across a girl in Asia yet that that wasn't the case with. Obviously since I took her two nights I enjoyed her company and would recommend her.

Saturday night I also took a second girl from Voodoo, I do not remember her name she was very very small 30 kilos, had braces and kind of curly hair, she was an adorable, but an absolute waste, did not even want me to see her naked, would not use her mouth (even though I had specifically asked about cumming in her mouth, I have a weird thing for braces) and did not want to have sex with me, even though she was not a cherry girl and I had made my intentions clear, Jane finally convinced her that she wasn't just there to sleep and needed to have sex that's what she was paid for after all, it lasted all of about two minutes before she told me to stop she couldn't do anymore, rolled back over to opposite side of bed covered up and would not participate at all, I told her to just leave, maybe I should have at least made her stay so she couldn't go back to the bar and find some other sucker but she was just pissing me off and ruining the fun I was going to have with Jane, obviously I strongly recommend against wasting your money on this one.

On Sunday I took a girl from Carousel I do not remember her name but her number was 500. When I got her back to room and undressed I was slightly disappointed, because while she had a very flat stomach and no obvious signs of child birth while in her bikini once she took off her top it was very obvious she had had a kid and her breast had paid a huge price for it, she was a very attractive girl but such small breast still somehow managing to be very saggy is somewhat disappointing to me, not that it ruined the night or anything but just not quite what I had expected. She was very much so a GFE type girl with tons of deep kissing always touching and being playful, so much so that it started to annoy me at times personally, but I'm sure for lots of guys it would be absolutely perfect. She was a good lay, and even reasonable at giving head when she did it, however she was did not want to do much of it.

Overall I enjoyed it much more than my visits to Thailand, while there were more girls packing a few extra pounds in AC than remember in Thailand there were also more that I found very cute in beer gardens, and probably a similar ratio of what I would call very high quality ones to the bigger gogosin Thailand, but I avoid the gogos in Thailand now as every girl I ever took from one was a horrible performer and / or runner I'd rather deal with a slightly less attractive beer garden girl that preforms. I got the distinct impression anyway the one absolute dud I got in AC was very much so an exception not the rule.

White Whale
04-01-13, 16:46
The map to scene. Plus mark points to starting point.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=15.166538&lon=120.584792&z=19&m

My plan was to create a some sort of bar hopping report after long time starting from bars before Perimeter and going towards Fields. I failed miserably. My legs skewed me to the Insomnia. It was full of dancing ladies on middle on cat walk and both sides. I went left side and group of girls had to give me space to sit. The cat walk and interior was professional in extend creating feeling of coldness. Nice feature was girls landing on cat walk from firestation poles. On negative side girls on cat walk avoided eye contact and did mechanical minimalism style of dancing. Other aspect of my plan was to stick in SML to avoid getting drunk too soon. I drank one and left (115 PHP with tip)

I passed couple of bars and went in the Brown Sugar. I was the only customer when entering around 9pm. The cat walk was smaller than in previous bar but full of much more active dancers having fun on their civil clothes or at least they did not have any bar uniform. I ordered the second SML and after couple zips I started realize my plan about SMLs was going to be doomed. After a while a group of three blue collar Koreans walked in bar. That is in opposite to business men. They ordered a shared bottle of water. The waitress came to them and asked if they would like to have the bill separated in three. I was attempted to smile. After couple of minutes some kind of tour leader came with two more Koreans. Then they left.

While all this happened a GRO had been sending me coy smiles. After a while she sat beside me and told a story of being a single mom having a baby boy attented by her friend. Only had worked in bar one month. She was complaining no-one wanting to EWR her because she had to go to home to her baby not allowing full time. All my brain cells told me to run but she had in some mystical way wokened my junior. My junior told my brain cells "Hey, you anyway have to wake up early to catch Southern Cross shuttle bus to Subic so short time is not that bad of a problem". She was not trying to be a runner but she was right about the one month part. Let's say I did not get my money worth.

Ekspat
04-01-13, 16:56
Other aspect of my plan was to stick in SML to avoid getting drunk too soon. I drank one and leftSML doesn't prevent you from getting drunk. SML has the same 5% as SMB does. Just Red Horse and Colt has more.

BionicMan
04-01-13, 16:58
After a while a group of three blue collar Koreans walked in bar. That is in opposite to business men. They ordered a shared bottle of water. The waitress came to them and asked if they would like to have the bill separated in three. I was attempted to smile.I hope she was kind enough to offer them 3 straws.

White Whale
04-01-13, 17:12
SML doesn't prevent you from getting drunk. SML has the same 5% as SMB does. Just Red Horse and Colt has more.My usual prerefed beverage is GT. Compared to that it keeps me more solver. I drink SML to to keep my figure ;)

Ekspat
04-01-13, 17:32
My usual prerefed beverage is GT.What the heck is GT? The only drinks I know is Coffee, Water, Beer. Every day, in that order. Since 30 years. If an emergency, forget about the water. Hehe joking!

BionicMan
04-01-13, 20:16
What the heck is GT?Maybe Gin & Tonic?

Fast Eddie 48
04-01-13, 21:07
What is CP? I don't see it in the abbreviations list.To Blueseoul.

It is Changping China a small town in Guangzhou 2 hr from Hong kong, infamous for BBS, sauna and KTV I been going there for over 12 yr but going down hill most bbs and brothel habe been closed down by the LE now AC is now a better mongering city

I was there just last month still can get action for ST for 25 USD have girl delivery to my hotel room have mamasan contacts, I think AC is easier better GFE and all girl speak english here.

Fast Eddie 48

Sxxxx
04-01-13, 21:27
What the heck is GT? The only drinks I know is Coffee, Water, Beer. Every day, in that order. Since 30 years. If an emergency, forget about the water. Hehe joking!It's a no brainer, GT means girls tits, otherwise known as breast milk, LOL.

JPF
04-02-13, 20:49
It's a no brainer, GT means girls tits, otherwise known as breast milk, LOL.That makes no sense. It is like saying my favorite drink is "wine glass".

YG365
04-02-13, 22:17
It's a no brainer, GT means girls tits, otherwise known as breast milk, LOL.It could also mean "Guys Tit". If you're fat enough, you'll have bigger tits than 80% of the Philippines who aren't exactly known for having breasts bigger than a size A.

YG

Sxxxx
04-03-13, 00:34
That makes no sense. It is like saying my favorite drink is "wine glass".My post arrived a day late it seems. Anyway gotcha!

X Man
04-03-13, 01:44
Are you sure?

X: Bartender, I'll have you finest amber alcoholic beverage.

B: Can or bottle.

X: Bottle please.


That makes no sense. It is like saying my favorite drink is "wine glass".

JPF
04-03-13, 21:42
Are you sure?

X: Bartender, I'll have you finest amber alcoholic beverage.

B: Can or bottle.

X: Bottle please.Yes, I am still sure. Without the first line which identifies the chosen drink to be the "finest amber alcoholic beverage" (I. E. Beer) the second one does not make sense. There may be places where you can just ask for a bottle but again it will be known that you are asking for a beer (or some other drink) since that is all they serve. There are no such constraints in the line "My usual preferred beverage is GT."

StephenIberico
04-04-13, 12:11
Morning Gents.

I finally joined the board after lurking and reading for about 9 months, I undertook my first trip to AC in August last year after travelling around Malaysia for a few months, found a cheap flight from KK into Clark and booked to stay there 3 nights. As had been travelling for so long needed a cheap hotel so found one right in Fields and arranged pick up and arrived at the hotel around 11pm. Quick shower and then to hit the town. I had not done enough research about where to go so turned right from the hotel towards Perimeter Road, had a wander with my mate and went in our first bar can't remember the name but some American came over (the owner?) said welcome to AC and gave us a free shot, ordered 2 SML but not a Great amount of girls on show so paid up and headed to Ponytails.

Now this bar was too draw, nothing was too much, drinks, chatter, no pushy LD, sexy girls, free popcorn, mamasan looked tired so bought her a coffee and after this every time we returned we were treated very well. Spoke to a girl called Marites and called her down bought her a drink etc, very nice, flirty, feeling my cock, letting me suck briefly her tits. I was in heaven. Bar fined her for 1500 pesos. Back in the room BBBJ very good, twice boom boom and then just cuddled and talked, real GFE experience fell asleep about 4am with her cuddling me.

Next morning we woke up and took her for Brekky then back to the room she had to return to work at 4 so by 2 I said if she wanted to freshen up at mine as guessed my shower would be nicer than hers and said I'd be back to bar fine her (she said "bola bola" as I kept sayjng it to her). So my mate also said goodbye to his bar fine also a girl from Ponytails and we headed out to use the Internet and have a few SML.

Went back out on the "hunt" about 5. 30 and stopped talking to a random English guy who was living in AC with his filipina girlfriend, told him about his experience and asked if he could highly recommend anywhere being a local. He showed us where it was and said he knew the Mamasan so he had a word and told her we were his friends frm back home and again nothing was too much trouble for them, beers cold, not pushy, friendly really good. Myself and a friend bar fined from there, .21 yr old called Missie when I said do you want a drink she actually said "I would like a SML orange! But it is double ladies drink is that ok with you" how sweet so as a result I said sure. Bar fine was paid and so did my mate and we headed out for dinner, said we would take the girls to a nice restaurant and they had a chat among themselves in Tagalog and they decided to go to McDonald's as they wanted nuggets. Amazing! After dinner went to Phillys and checked out some other bars where the girls friends worked, along Fields Av, My girl would not leave me alone kept kissing me, I found that if you treat them with respect don't use them as. Sex objects in the bars they can become a real GFE, some of the way the guys treat them in the bar I found quite degrading for the girls but hey, everyone has their own preferences when it comes to mongering.

Anyway back t the room and showered, amazing BJ and sex, felt more like making love than porn star fucking, but maybe that's cause I'm a bit soft haha! I can speak fluent Spanish and this proved invaluable as many of Tagalog words are loaded from Spanish (guapo, ventana, days of the week etc) this allowed for me to break the Ice with the girls and they seemed to like the fact I knew Spanish.

Anyway by next morning I struggled to get rid of her (a nice problem to have?) but needed to check out as was heading to Subic. So we said our goodbyes and I forgot to tip her so I said to myself, I'll go back in the future and make up for it. This will be this summer as just sorted flights!

Overall I was a bit worried before I went, safety seemed an issue, I never felt more in danger than any Bangkok, if anything staying around Fields you are very safe. I had no issues with runners, but I'm not naive, I'm only 26 fairly good looking and in shape so this was to my advantage. If you treat the girls well they are so cute and sweet, since I've come back from PI I have not been able to look at a western women in the same way. The beggars are annoying but I kept a pocketful of lollies to giv to them and they were happy with this, the street vendors are annoying but ok, one tried to convince me to buy a stun gun. Had a laugh with him about it and we even shared a cigarette after all he knew I wasn't going to buy it. Weather was crap and it rained s lot but that didn't spoil my trip. Virgin trip done next time will be doing 2 weeks in AC, can't wait for them cola cola bodies.

Gracias!

Steven

Slippery
04-07-13, 23:21
Kudos to the AC fathers for appropriating the money for the new sidewalks being laid on Fields. BUT, they're made of smooth ceramic tile which is quite slippery; so slippery that the kids run and slide down the sidewalk like we used to do in northern US on icey winter days. Forgetting the conditions, I fishtailed coming out of Paradise Beer Garden myself. Its going to be hilarious sitting and watching the drunks trying to navigate that tile after just a slight rain. Like pigs on ice. Yet another reason to stay in control in AC.

WestCoast1
04-08-13, 01:36
Morning Gents.

SNIP.

Anyway back t the room and showered, amazing BJ and sex, felt more like making love than porn star fucking, but maybe that's cause I'm a bit soft haha! I can speak fluent Spanish and this proved invaluable as many of Tagalog words are loaded from Spanish (guapo, ventana, days of the week etc) this allowed for me to break the Ice with the girls and they seemed to like the fact I knew Spanish.

Anyway by next morning I struggled to get rid of her (a nice problem to have?) but needed to check out as was heading to Subic. So we said our goodbyes and I forgot to tip her so I said to myself, I'll go back in the future and make up for it. This will be this summer as just sorted flights!

Gracias!

StevenExcellent first post. Other newbs take notes.

Irony Monger
04-08-13, 02:42
Kudos to the AC fathers for appropriating the money for the new sidewalks being laid on Fields. BUT, they're made of smooth ceramic tile which is quite slippery; so slippery that the kids run and slide down the sidewalk like we used to do in northern US on icey winter days. Forgetting the conditions, I fishtailed coming out of Paradise Beer Garden myself. Its going to be hilarious sitting and watching the drunks trying to navigate that tile after just a slight rain. Like pigs on ice. Yet another reason to stay in control in AC.Slippery make a post about slippery sidewalks, who would have guessed? Even though I prefer slippery pinays, I guess I'll bring my yaktrax next time just to be safe ;)

StephenIberico
04-08-13, 10:42
Kudos to the AC fathers for appropriating the money for the new sidewalks being laid on Fields. BUT, they're made of smooth ceramic tile which is quite slippery; so slippery that the kids run and slide down the sidewalk like we used to do in northern US on icey winter days. Forgetting the conditions, I fishtailed coming out of Paradise Beer Garden myself. Its going to be hilarious sitting and watching the drunks trying to navigate that tile after just a slight rain. Like pigs on ice. Yet another reason to stay in control in AC.Is this post linked to your username?

X Man
04-08-13, 11:34
Isn't it ironic that Irony M finds it ironic that Slippery makes a post about slipping on slippery sidewalks?


Slippery make a post about slippery sidewalks, who would have guessed? Even though I prefer slippery pinays, I guess I'll bring my yaktrax next time just to be safe ;)

Redman69
04-09-13, 00:28
Good report and I enjoyed the read. Glad you found the info helpful. And others will find yours. You feeling totally safe off the plane on your first trip. Tells others what to expect. GFE"s is what RP Republic of Philippines is all about.

When you get out to the rice paddys and treat the ladys as ladys you will be amazed. It really is like the honeymoon. Thanks again

Hutsori
04-09-13, 00:49
Isn't it ironic that Irony M finds it ironic that Slippery makes a post about slipping on slippery sidewalks?

Ah, a fine demonstration of irony deficiency. Thanks, X Hibit.

Slippery
04-10-13, 03:09
Isn't it ironic that Irony M finds it ironic that Slippery makes a post about slipping on slippery sidewalks?That's all he can come up with? Not very ironic. At one time or another many of us with anglo usernames create sentences that employ our usernames in an entirely different context. Wow! Slippery pinay pussy! How creative. I'd of never thought of that.

Chrisde99
04-10-13, 04:46
My flight landed at 830 pm at Manila airport. Immigration queues were not long and I was able to find one with just one guy ahead of me. Visa stamped on passport, no questions asked. As

Advised by some members I had only handbags and didn't have to join the long wait for baggage. Went through customs and spotted moneychangers where I changed some money. Rates were competitive. Went out of the arrival hall to find a lady selling sim cards and loads. Got one and took me about 5 mins to have a working mobile. Got out of the airport and was hoping my ABC driver would be waiting. Went to the section according to my surname and found the guy with my name board. But mind you the arrival area seemed to be absolutely chaotic. With guys after you for taxis and whatnot. Once they realised I had transport I was not hassled. The ABC car was parked at the car-park which was another chaos. There were two cars parked behind ours and I wondered how the driver was going to get the car out. But as soon as we sat in the other two cars reversed and we could manage to squeeze ourselves out! The trip to Angeles was about 9o minutes and my room reservation which I had confirmed two days earlier was all set up. Pleasantly surprised by the size of the room and the bathroom in particular. Put all my bags in the room, placed my valuables in the safe and went out by about 1045 pm to explore fields. Was quite tired after a long flight but was keen on a quicky. Pony tails was about 100 yards away from ABC. Entered and ordered a SM beer and looked around. Only about 3 customers and 8 girls on stage. They were all busy watching some movie on the TV screens and seemed totally oblivious of the customers. Sunday night! I finished my beer and made a quick exit.

My initial impression about Fields was that the street lighting was poor, pavements were uneven, forcing everyone to walk on the roads and traffic was chaotic. Reached the walking street after

Walking past Phillys and Raymond street. Eyed a few bars but one of the girls standing outside Shooterz bar grabbed me and hugged me. She managed to convince me to enter the bar. Fairly small bar with about 8 girls dancing. Lot of eye contact and lively girls. Eventually I chose a girl called Apple and bar fined her for 1800 pesos. She answered all the questions I had learnt by-heart positively except that she wanted to leave by 3am. It was fine by me as I wanted some rest too. So off we went to ABC. She was a 23 year old very pretty and offered whatever I wanted. Only thing was she wanted to shower alone. After a lot of kissing and fondling she gave me a covered BJ and then we went on to doggy and missionary until I couldn't take it any longer. She said next night she would be available for overnight and gave me her telephone number before she left. I gave her a tip of 200 pesos.

The next morning I contacted my preplanned wingman who was unfortunately down with flu. I woke up very late and thought I would go down Perimeter road. But Last minute change in plans and thought I would visit Santos street. Found all the bars mentioned in the forum here. One of the girls from Shadows waved to me and she looked kind of cute with braces. Her name was Nicole. She seated me and brought me a drink and started playing with my various body parts. She explained in graphic language what she would do if I were to take her to my hotel room. That was enough for me and I bar fined her 1300 pesos for long time. I called the ABC driver and within 5 mins he was waiting for us at Kokomos. After reaching my room I found out that what she lacked in figure she quite well made up with her tongue. Blow job (always with condom for me) , anal rimming, nipple sucking, and the finale with boom boom. Tipped her 100 pesos and she slipped a drink out of my minibar without asking!

The second day my wingman was all recovered and we had planned to Barhop at 2pm along the perimeter bars. ABC tax was not available so he suggested we take a jeepney and seemed to be well versed about how to do it. I was impressed. Some 8 pesos for Lost in Asia bar which was about 8 minute drive. Walked in to Lost in asia and ordered ourselves beers. There were about 8 girls dancing on stage and the atmosphere looked nice and relaxed. One of the girls called Ruby caught my eye and if we were not barhopping I would have settled for her. After that we went to several bars along perimeter road and found most of them quite relaxed. No pushing for lady drinks. No pushing for bar fines. One bar which was really wild was one called Nifty just off one of the roads from perimeter road leading to the Babylon Hotel. As we entered we were grabbed by several girls who started groping us, kissing and feeling. They also offered their body parts to be examined and we basically had a great time. To prolong the pleasure we offered the girls lady drinks and told them we were barhopping so we couldn't barfine anybody. They understood and this didn't make them lose interest in what they were doing. After all the barhopping we decided to take some time off and meet again at 9 pm to continue barhopping in Fields and walking street.

We started of with Dollhouse where there were several cuties. We then went over to Pashas. That was a disappointment as most of the girls looked too plump. We then went over to the One eyed Wench and there I found my girl for the night. Her name was Princess and she came and sat next to me uninvited. But she had caught my eye earlier. I had to abandon my wingman and barfined Princess. She was sitting with another pretty girl called Jennifer who had her nose pierced. Very sexy. Subsequently I realised that she was Princess's friend and was willing to do a threesome. So that is in my future plans. Princess is a 24 year old and a lady who gives great service. Reminded me of some of my Thai girls who were very similar. Nothing was too much for her. We had a great session in the night and she woke me up with a great blow job in the morning after which I let her go. Tipped her 300 pesos. Her barfine was 1800 pesos.

The third day has just started with me sending in this report. Pics to follow

StephenIberico
04-10-13, 12:29
In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos.

Regards

Doggage
04-13-13, 05:09
In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos.

RegardsI wouldn't worry about it, the wait for your luggage is really not much worse than any airport.

Ender
04-13-13, 21:44
A few years back I remember a place on Feilds close to MacArthur that was all uniforms and clubwear. I don't think I saw it last time I was in AC. Anyone recommend a place for some good slutwear in XS?

Fast Eddie 48
04-13-13, 23:01
In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos.

RegardsTo Stepheniberico

You didn't know NAIA Manila airport is voted the worst major city airport in the World, it been talk about many time here guest you will find out yourself.

Fast Eddie 48

Jayleesf
04-14-13, 00:57
I am arriving at CRK next Saturday past midnight. Assuming the flight is on time, I hope to be checked in at Pacific Breeze and showered to hit the town by 1:30 or2AM. Which places would you guys recommend that may still some young cute girls. I prefer the go go girls over blow row but not sure how late some places stay open.

Thanks

Soapy Smith
04-14-13, 04:54
In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos. RegardsIf you come into Terminal 1, where all the international flights except PAL enter, the process is, as Doggage suggests, not a major problem. If the immigration lines are long, your luggage may even arrive on the carousel before you get to it. But they have recently added immigration booths. Lines for Filipinos are now separated from lines for visitors. This means more booths for the visitors. What sometimes happens is that multiple international flights arrive close together and immigration gets backed up, but when I arrived in early March I waited in line for immigration probably no more than five minutes. As a result I waited perhaps 10 minutes at the luggage carousel.

Clearing customs after that is little more than handing over a ticket to an agent at a desk, who puts a mark on it, then giving the ticket to security before you exit the building. I have never even been asked the purpose of my visit by the customs agents. Probably if I had indicated on the customs slip that I was bringing in lots of currency or live animals, they might have asked a few questions. I always check no, no, no, and they never ask any questions. The total time from entering immigration to getting luggage and exiting customs is probably shorter than the same process when I arrive in the states. If there is going to be chaos, it only involves trying to find a woman or anybody else who comes to the airport to meet you. Finding and leaving by taxi is similarly straight-forward and unproblematic.

X Man
04-14-13, 10:01
I'm not sure why this is in the AC thread.

One thing that caused me some confusion is that the staff will sometimes pull luggage off and park the pieces adjacent to the baggage claim. If you get to the conveyer a bit late, you might find your luggage next to the belt. I guess that's actually a service! I flew into a US airport recently and my luggage was on an adjacent conveyer belt for a flight from Frankfurt. I had come from Asia.

And the things that drives me crazy is how Filipinos will get right next to the belt along with any luggage, strollers, kids, etc and completely impede anyone alse trying to get their luggage.

A worrying comment I got from an immigration officer last year."You come here a lot." Of course Asian Rain and the Philippine tourism agency have the best comeback to that,"It's more fun in the Philippines!" X


In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos.

Regards

Threadbare
04-14-13, 18:15
I am arriving at CRK next Saturday past midnight. Assuming the flight is on time, I hope to be checked in at Pacific Breeze and showered to hit the town by 1:30 or2AM. Which places would you guys recommend that may still some young cute girls. I prefer the go go girls over blow row but not sure how late some places stay open.

ThanksI have arrived at this time and found there is still plenty of activity, the fields bars start to wind up about 3, and by 4 its fairly quiet, so hopfully you can find your soulmate by then!

Ice Raj
04-15-13, 11:13
Flight landed at 10. 30am and by 11am was in Hotel Royal Amsterdam, Fields Avenue. Good clean room, service is good, no hassle, guards are sturdy and polite. Has a Bar & Restaurant with some nice waitresses (didn't try them) but not a noisy place, quiet and nice. P2190 per nite and additional P350-P400 one way from airport-hotel if you book transport / taxi.

Settled in then showered. Started off by heading down to Kokomos, just 30-40 metres from Hotel. Had a few beers, some Brunch, watched the world go by. Its not too busy yet but by 2pm the crowd has started to roll-in and Kokomos is crowded. Music was light earlier and becoming slightly more pronounced. Headed to Blue Nile Hotel which was also just down the road from Kokomos to meet a friend. Went into Devil's Witch beside Kokomos at 4pm and it was not too busy. Girls 8 to Guy 1 ratio! Picked a dancer had a few drinks then left with her. Damage P1800 BF. Lady drinks P200-P250 each. Beer about P150. Dinner with the Lyn then boom-boom. Nice body (one child, I would say a 6. 7). Morning 7am had a 2nd round with her. Then slept again and surprised to see she was still there when I woke!

So showered then had breakfast together at Kokomos. She wants to buy something and so we headed to SM Clark for some light shopping. Ditched the girl at Fields near Cuba-Cuba after she tries to get me to go to Pool Party somewhere about an hour and a half later. Had a beer in Cuba-Cuba (its just a few doors to the back of Kokomos). Not many girls at the time but casino had some (didn't partake)?

Headed to Gheckos Bar at 3pm, just a few doors away from Kokomos, party was already in full swing. Tables full so got a table with Mamasan! 2 nice looking watresses start massaging and playing with me. Bought drinks for them and 2 more appear and start the same trick! Unfortunately I was not smart enough to escape so an hour later bought those 2 LD's too! All 4 showed me their pussies for their LD's. How nice! One of them had just started work (had been away from AC for a year seems! Baby maybe?). Anyways booked her for some afternoon / evening fun, BF P1800. Lady drinks P250 each (bought them 4 in total!) and beers about P150 each (had 4 beers). She was a 6 to 7 too but nice tits and very GFE in bed!

After a few hours of excellent fun with the waitress (her name was Marisa or something) showered then headed out for dinner with her, some nice grilled lamb at Blue Nile, then send her off. Met the same friend from the night before and we start to bar hop. Typhoon, One Eyed Wench, Club Asia and one more Club (I can't really remember the name opp Club Asia?). My GOD. Its just a party place, full of nice SYT's and most of them want you! Heavenly!

Anyway lots of drinks later picked a nice SYT dancer P2000 and head back to room for a good time. A 7 to 8 and very GFE too! Then slept. Morning and one more round before she heads off. I need sleep, head still heavy from the nights drinks. To be continued. How do you guys do this. Hahahaha!

But I can vouch that best value for money here in AC! Have been tipping about P300 to P350, hope that's fair.

Cheers.

Ice

WestCoast1
04-15-13, 13:43
To be continued. How do you guys do this. Hahahaha!Practice, practice, practice.


But I can vouch that best value for money here in AC! Have been tipping about P300 to P350, hope that's fair.Very fair. We have another convert. Welcome to pilipines!

Sad Sam
04-21-13, 07:29
There is some mention on the web about some infrequent bus service direct from AC to Manila airport. Any one know the schedule and fares?

Thanks

StephenIberico
04-21-13, 19:23
There is some mention on the web about some infrequent bus service direct from AC to Manila airport. Any one know the schedule and fares?

ThanksHttp://www.swaggy.com/index-bus-service.php

Sxxxx
04-22-13, 08:43
There is some mention on the web about some infrequent bus service direct from AC to Manila airport. Any one know the schedule and fares?

ThanksSwaggy bus does not go direct to airport. It goes to Swaggy Hotel in Ermita, then you catch a taxi to airport. Taxi touts who hang around outside Swagman Hotel charge double or more the going rate. Walk short metres to M H Del Pilar St and get a taxi for P150 to P200, to airport.

Sixty Two Echo
04-22-13, 11:15
It's been four years. But I am back. I'm sad to learn that bar fines have gone up. Such is life, right? Bus ride from Manila was 600 php. Left at 11:30 am and arrived at my hotel at 1:20 pm. Cleaned up. Met up with a buddy. Went off to blow job alley. Met Marcy. 26, great BBBJ (imagine that) , great service. All for 700 php bar fine and 100 p for tip. Later went bar hopping. Red Horse beer rocks! Went to Sky Tacks. It is over run by Koreans. Then went to High Society. A couple more Red Horses. Off to BJ alley again. Met Jovy. 26, another great BBBJ (YES!) , good service again. 700 php. I just came from Thailand (11 days) and Cambodia (12 days). And so far the Philippinas are representing! Back in 2009 the bar fines around here were 1000 to 1500 in a lot of bars. Yes, you could find a hand full that wanted 2000. Heck, I think the Atlantis had some girls that were 3000. It's good to be back.

Sammon
04-22-13, 17:29
Swaggy bus does not go direct to airport. It goes to Swaggy Hotel in Ermita, then you catch a taxi to airport. Taxi touts who hang around outside Swagman Hotel charge double or more the going rate. Walk short metres to M H Del Pilar St and get a taxi for P150 to P200, to airport.They do have service to the airport from Swagman hotel in ermita. Do not know the times and fare. I know this because as I got off the bus they were annoucing that bus to the airport is ready.

Yes, ignore all touts and go acroos to UN avenue or del pilar to catch meter taxi. If you have lots of luggage just ask the hotel watchman to get you a meter taxi.

Kartolo
04-22-13, 17:41
There is some mention on the web about some infrequent bus service direct from AC to Manila airport. Any one know the schedule and fares?

ThanksThere is a counter at DMIA offering free transport to the casino which is directly in front of T3 of NAIA. However, I am not sure of the schedule. The only catch is that you have to fill a form to get the casino membership card which is free.

Sxxxx
04-22-13, 22:23
They do have service to the airport from Swagman hotel in ermita. Do not know the times and fare. I know this because as I got off the bus they were annoucing that bus to the airport is ready.

Yes, ignore all touts and go acroos to UN avenue or del pilar to catch meter taxi. If you have lots of luggage just ask the hotel watchman to get you a meter taxi.Oooby Dooby, my bad. Remember now, I actually caught it years ago, a van, from memory. But vans / bus do the rounds with the 3 various terminals. Because I am hansum, they went to my Terminal first, LOL. However, in last couple of years do not recall any van or bus for passengers to Airport, and never heard any calls for such to Airport. Maybe its a service they have dropped?

But I do remember everytime recently, bus driver calling out for taxi to airport, at an inflated price. Not inflated if someone else shares taxi I suppose, but then again price might be for each person, in taxi. In addition to Swaggy touting customers for taxi, there were other outsiders preying on bus passengers for taxi to airport.

Yeh, I am still confused, will have to research it, LOL. When was it you heard bus is ready for airport announcement, what year? The catch might be, my buses lately have not been arriving at the right time to catch their airport bus / van? Research. Nothing wrong with the buses to and from Angeles, and safer in a crash too. For those interested, last trip, I caught a Yellow Taxi from Manila airport to Swagman Hotel Ermita. After 5 mins, asked driver to go straight to my hotel in Angeles. Nice car, educated careful driver, P2700 on meter, and this is a Yellow Cab. Gave him P3000 for such a nice start to my vacation. Sorry if I spoiled the market, and yes will not be doing it that way again, two barfines, whereas taxi to Swagman, bus to Angeles, less than one bar fine :)

I know about Southern Cross, but limited time table. Also know about cheapy Filipino Manila bus terminal way, then trike to Hotel. Compromise between taxis and them is Swagman for me. Research, will report back re van / bus to Airport, if can find anything.

Fast Eddie 48
04-22-13, 22:44
There is some mention on the web about some infrequent bus service direct from AC to Manila airport. Any one know the schedule and fares?

ThanksTo Sad.

I think Philtranco bus only have about 4 bus a day from NAIA it also stop at Cubao and to DAU bus station and then to DMIA airport at Clark, I always just take taxi directly to AC or take taxi to Victory bus station in Pasay and then take the bus to DAU is not that bad if you don't have too many Luggage.

Fast Eddie 48

Sharka
04-22-13, 23:54
And the things that drives me crazy is how Filipinos will get right next to the belt along with any luggage, strollers, kids, etc and completely impede anyone alse trying to get their luggage.

Thats nothing compare to some of the airports crowds in China.

A worrying comment I got from an immigration officer last year."You come here a lot." Of course Asian Rain and the Philippine tourism agency have the best comeback to that,"It's more fun in the Philippines!" XI was also once asked the same question. All I said was " I have a GF here". The officer just smiled as he understood.

Sharka
04-22-13, 23:58
I am arriving at CRK next Saturday past midnight. Assuming the flight is on time, I hope to be checked in at Pacific Breeze and showered to hit the town by 1:30 or2AM. Which places would you guys recommend that may still some young cute girls. I prefer the go go girls over blow row but not sure how late some places stay open.

ThanksIf you get in very late, there are still 1-2 bars that are open 24/7. Try Dollhouse or Atlantis on Fields. Also, go to the discos at this time as many BGs not already BF will go there to make some extra cash