Angeles City

[Sharka]

In response to post below what is the situation with baggage in Manila Airport as first time flying in there! Sounds like disorganised chaos.

RegardsBeen there many times and never had a problem with luggage or customs here. Can't say the same for Clark airport though. My friend had problems with customs here TWICE on departure. They did a routine pat down and realize he had a money belt. Ask to open and see it. Saw he had some cash in it and without much thought reached in and helped himself to about 1000p. Then told my friend he was now "cleared" to go. This all took place while several officers watching.

[Slippery]

SI, make a mental note of X's description below and that's exactly what you'll encounter.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Went down BJ alley again. Surprise! Found another cutie. A 22 year old. Another crowd pleaser. Great BBBJ (as usual) , great service. 700 php. Took a nap later that evening that turned into a four and a half hour sleep. Oops! I must have been tired. Got up, it was 1:30am. Went to Sky Tracks. It was so so. Then went to High Society. It was better. But it too was fading. Had a couple of beers. Met a 26 year old. I asked if she wanted to come to my hotel and she asked how much I would pay? Well I said free of course. She had that shocked look on her face. I said ok. 700. She quickly said ok. Off we went. Yeah, the semi-pro thing didn't pan out for me too good this time. Her oral skills were far below the girls from the pro circuit. I wasn't surprised at all. I told her to hop on top. Two minutes later she was tired. WTF! I told her. Ok, lazy, lay down. I decided to finish quick and send this one down the road. After I finished she rolled over and said. We go to sleep now. I said no! You get dressed and you go home. She said she wanted to sleep here in the air-con. Nope, sorry. I don't sleep well with people in my bed. Paid her and sent her down the road. Now, it's off to Subic Bay.

[BeachBoy46]

Greetings to all. Long time member but first post. Iam finally taking my first trip to A / C, and have made my preparations. Just want to check your advices if it is the best. Arr clark midday arrange for hotel pick up (wise?) staying at wild orchid in jonny st (bit expensive maybe) Now questions; is this a good hotel for taking girls (maybe more than one) is it nice and close to bars and the action. Would appreciate any advice and help as it is my first trip to angeles and I think I will be cautious until I get the feel of the scene. Am staying 10 days Any help regarding hotel accom, bars etc etc would be greatly appreciated cheers

[Sxxxx]

Been there many times and never had a problem with luggage or customs here. Can't say the same for Clark airport though. My friend had problems with customs here TWICE on departure. They did a routine pat down and realize he had a money belt. Ask to open and see it. Saw he had some cash in it and without much thought reached in and helped himself to about 1000p. Then told my friend he was now "cleared" to go. This all took place while several officers watching.Geez your allowed to take 'x' amount in and out of country. On exiting Manila once, I was approached by Security to give him my change after paying departure tax. I smiled and moved on. Don't be weak, encouraging these guys. How weak, allowing him to place his hands inside money belt, illegal! I have been patted down at x ray machine numerous times and always have money belt, which they discover, never been asked to give any money and never will. Its not illegal to have money belt with money in it. Do not encourage this kind of behaviour!

[Ekspat]

If you get in very late, there are still 1-2 bars that are open 24/7. Try Dollhouse or Atlantis on Fields.Dollhouse and Voodoo are open 24/7, Atlantis is not.

Enjoy!

[BionicMan]

Geez your allowed to take 'x' amount in and out of country. On exiting Manila once, I was approached by Security to give him my change after paying departure tax. I smiled and moved on. Don't be weak, encouraging these guys. How weak, allowing him to place his hands inside money belt, illegal! I have been patted down at x ray machine numerous times and always have money belt, which they discover, never been asked to give any money and never will. Its not illegal to have money belt with money in it. Do not encourage this kind of behaviour!I agree, as long as one is carrying an amount of money within what is legal to get in or out of that specific country (and this can vary from country to country)

I once had an amount of cash exceeding the (Vietnam) country limit, did not declare it on arrival (my fault as I did not check the specific limit) and on departure, at customs X-ray, before the security check, the girl could see cash in an envelope in my handcarry bag. She asked me to show the envelop and her supervisor came in handling the whole matter in a booth behind.

I did not have any other choice than leaving a certain tip under my passport on the desk, when he asked me "tell me what I can do now as you have more than allowed". I was the prey, no doubt.

I believe they celebrate when one is breaking (their) rules as the tea funds get a funding.

I have to say that Vietnam cash limit is much less than nearby countries, so it is easier be trapped.

[YG365]

Greetings to all. Long time member but first post. Iam finally taking my first trip to A / C, and have made my preparations. Just want to check your advices if it is the best. Arr clark midday arrange for hotel pick up (wise?) staying at wild orchid in jonny st (bit expensive maybe) Now questions; is this a good hotel for taking girls (maybe more than one) is it nice and close to bars and the action. Would appreciate any advice and help as it is my first trip to angeles and I think I will be cautious until I get the feel of the scene. Am staying 10 days Any help regarding hotel accom, bars etc etc would be greatly appreciated cheersIf you've been a long time member here, you should know to RTFF in the "Forum Asia The Philippines Angeles City Hotels & Accommodations pages. There's nothing wrong with Wild Orchid and its location. I consider Wild Orchid a mid priced hotel and have seen several good reports about it. You can also check the reviews on Agoda or TripAdvisor.

Why be cautious? As long as you don't act stupid, you don't look rich and you treat the natives with respect, you'll be fine! It's pretty hard to get lost on Walking Street (The main area).

Goodluck,

YG

[Fast Eddie 48]

There is a counter at DMIA offering free transport to the casino which is directly in front of T3 of NAIA. However, I am not sure of the schedule. The only catch is that you have to fill a form to get the casino membership card which is free.Kartolo,

That is the new Resort World casino I am a member they also offer free shuttle from SM mall also only twice a day I think, they also have free shuttle all over Metero Manila to casino it is a small casino compare to the one in KL Genting highland and Singapore Sentosa.

Fast Eddie 48

[BrainDrain]

Her oral skills were far below the girls from the pro circuit. I wasn't surprised at all. I told her to hop on top. Two minutes later she was tired. WTF! I told her. Ok, lazy, lay down. I decided to finish quick and send this one down the road. After I finished she rolled over and said. We go to sleep now. I said no! You get dressed and you go home. She said she wanted to sleep here in the air-con. Nope, sorry. I don't sleep well with people in my bed. Paid her and sent her down the road. Now, it's off to Subic Bay.Maybe she was giving you what you prepared to pay for. A girl can agree to go with you for any price, doesn't mean they have to perform or enjoy.

[Chocha Monger]

geez your allowed to take 'x' amount in and out of country. on exiting manila once, i was approached by security to give him my change after paying departure tax. i smiled and moved on. don't be weak, encouraging these guys. how weak, allowing him to place his hands inside money belt, illegal! i have been patted down at x ray machine numerous times and always have money belt, which they discover, never been asked to give any money and never will. its not illegal to have money belt with money in it. do not encourage this kind of behaviour!well, you have to know the rules otherwise you will be in an extremely weak position called ignorance. when you are ignorant of the limit for importing or exporting currency then you're at their mercy. so, if someone should find that they carelessly placed their hand in the mouth of the crocodile it's best to remove it cautiously and politely as possible lest the hand be forfeited. i have been subjected to the same attempt to 'confirep001e' pesos at naia. the guy was very aggressive at grabbing my pockets and trying to see how much pesos i was taking out of the country. however, i knew the limit was 5, 000 pesos and told him so. he didn't seem like he was going to back off until his supervisor came over an inquired about the matter. once i told him i had much less than the limit he told the peso hound to let me go. no pesos for the red horse and tanduay fund from my stash.

too many mongers concentrate only on the going rate for short time, trike fares, and rack rates for flea pits while ignoring little legal details like the currency limit written on the customs declaration that they sign upon entry. others seem to think that foreigners are exempt from local laws prohibiting the use of illegal narcotics and the possession of firearms only to end up locked up abroad. a little due diligence on the laws of the land could keep a lot of mongers from becoming exotic and special western meats for filipino inmates who love blue eyes as much as the girls do.

[Pute Nut]

A little due diligence on the laws of the land could keep a lot of mongers from becoming exotic and special Western meats for Filipino inmates who love blue eyes as much as the girls do.Agreed, and for the record the current amount allowed is PHP 10000 plus USD 10000 (or its equivalent in other currencies than PHP).

[Pip Jaeger]

Well, you have to know the rules otherwise you will be in an extremely weak position called ignorance.CM, good advice, but wrong amount. Perhaps you're thinking of the pre 1995 amount, LOL. Since then PHP10, 000 is allowed to be taken out or brought in and up to USD10, 000 or its equivalent in other foreign currencies, except PHP.

Link to declaration form on the Philippine Bureau of Customs:

http://customs.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/customsDeclaration.jpg

[Sxxxx]

A little due diligence on the laws of the land could keep a lot of mongers from becoming exotic and special Western meats for Filipino inmates who love blue eyes as much as the girls do.Yes, blue eyes be forewarned. Think that Norwegian lad would have blue eyes, LOL.

[Slippery]

Correct, the genereal rule is 10, 000 either in pesos going out of Phils or dollars going out of USA. CM was using past tense and you Pip are using present tense. Beyond the general rule, it gets considerably murkier. For most people the 10, 000 rule is sufficient.

[WestCoast1]

After almost a decade of frequent trips through NAIA I have never been accousted by Airport personnel for anything other than routine security procedures.

I have to wonder what behavior, appearance or attire would warrant such action?Randomness. Immigration and customs personnel in many countries detain people at random. Even in the States. I'm about as boring and non-descript a traveler as any at the airport, but I've been detained in different countries (briefly) for routine questioning or looking thru my luggage. You don't need to do anything suspiscious. Have never been accosted in NAIA.

[Tally Wacker]

WC, you don't think that wild grin on your face when departing Phil has anything to do with it?


Randomness. Immigration and customs personnel in many countries detain people at random. Even in the States. I'm about as boring and non-descript a traveler as any at the airport, but I've been detained in different countries (briefly) for routine questioning or looking thru my luggage. You don't need to do anything suspiscious. Have never been accosted in NAIA.

[Sammon]

Correct, the genereal rule is 10, 000 either in pesos going out of Phils or dollars going out of USA. CM was using past tense and you Pip are using present tense. Beyond the general rule, it gets considerably murkier. For most people the 10, 000 rule is sufficient.All countries standard is $10, 000 dollars entering into the country. Leaving the country different countries have different standards for their own currencies. In USA sometimes they ask you how much cash you are carrying.

And question you why you are carrying so much?

It is mainly to see if you are paying cash and bringing in drugs.

[Pute Nut]

All countries standard is $10, 000 dollars entering into the country.This varies, though. In the European Union, for instance, you can bring any amount, as long as its declared, and up to 10000 Euros undeclared.


Leaving the country different countries have different standards for their own currencies.As noted, with regards to Phil the PHP 10000 applies to both in&out movements, that should be easy for even the stupider mongers to remember.

[Chocha Monger]

After almost a decade of frequent trips through NAIA I have never been accousted by Airport personnel for anything other than routine security procedures.

I have to wonder what behavior, appearance or attire would warrant such action?Well, I had stayed up shooting loads in 2 of the sweetest caramel brown twinkies ever on my last night in country and I may have had the Charlie Murphy shakes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wPiQ1-tOjw

[Chocha Monger]

yes, blue eyes be forewarned. think that norwegian lad would have blue eyes, lol.a blonde blue eyed milk complexioned thor, from the far away frigid land of norway would indeed be an especially exotic treat for filipino convicts. there is no way that such rare and special fresh meat could escape the attentions of the resident predators. he would stick out like filet mignon on a buffet line.

here is something guys who like to stumble around drunk on the philippine streets might want to think about. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/06/12/male-student-raped-2-men

[Docwiltro]

Typhoon, One Eyed Wench, Club Asia and one more Club (I can't really remember the name opp Club Asia?). My GOD. Its just a party place, full of nice SYT's and most of them want you! Heavenly!

Anyway lots of drinks later picked a nice SYT dancer P2000 and head back to room for a good time. A 7 to 8 and very GFE too! Then slept. Morning and one more round before she heads off. I need sleep, head still heavy from the nights drinks. To be continued. How do you guys do this. Hahahaha!

But I can vouch that best value for money here in AC! Have been tipping about P300 to P350, hope that's fair.

Cheers.

IceGreat report! It is a dilemma, trying to fit all that partying into a few days. Really, I now take a few days off in between the hearty partying or hook up for a couple of days with a cool cutie like this one I met at PonyTails. BTW, you seem to hit a few of my favorite haunts.

[FreebieFan]

After almost a decade of frequent trips through NAIA I have never been accousted by Airport personnel for anything other than routine security procedures.

I have to wonder what behavior, appearance or attire would warrant such action?After 20 years of NAIA entrances I've once been accosted once by a Customs guy. Was about 4am and the Customs guy was fast asleep as I walked past. I continued walking. Maybe 30 seconds later he shouted " Hoy" and came running towards me." "Form please ". I duly passed over the form and that was that.

IN HK I found the "trainee" in bag search when transferring to a new flight. She wanted to take out all the vibrators I was carrying, plus whatever other items of sl you t wear was in the bag. I found it funny, she was highly embarassed.

And once in US, my bags were searched because the Customs guy asked if I was coming to US to work illagally and I laughed. I laughed because I enjoy the expat life and benefits and theres no way I could replicate the free airfare, housing, net salary, etc by working in the US. But he took it as a slight against his great nation.

[Chocha Monger]

Maybe she was giving you what you prepared to pay for. A girl can agree to go with you for any price, doesn't mean they have to perform or enjoy.Good point. 62 Echo paid for 700 pesos of service and she decided to give him exactly 700 pesos worth of service, nothing more nothing less. Be careful what you bargain for, you just might get it.

[Freezone]

Geez your allowed to take 'x' amount in and out of country. On exiting Manila once, I was approached by Security to give him my change after paying departure tax. I smiled and moved on. Don't be weak, encouraging these guys. How weak, allowing him to place his hands inside money belt, illegal! I have been patted down at x ray machine numerous times and always have money belt, which they discover, never been asked to give any money and never will. Its not illegal to have money belt with money in it. Do not encourage this kind of behaviour!


This once happened to me at Clark and I lost about 500p from my money belt but lucky I had cash in various pockets. Could've lost a lot more had I had all my cash in the money belt and not split it up. Had no choice as I objected but nothing I could do about it as I/ we can't really say no to a custom officier giving me an order to open my money belt for inspection. I think by law they could inspect anything they want and we have to obey or be detained. After mu angry objection he pulled me away and told me (in a not so friendly voice) to leave the area. Best to just call it a lost and leave as he could easily detain me overnight on false charges and miss my flight which would cost me a whole lot more. Also didn't attract attention other than the fact I was one of the only foreigners on line at the time. Cough it up as a small lost to a corrupt system and best to move on or face bigger losses for further confrontations with these corrupt idiots. Can't say I was happy with the whole thing but just have to try and forget about it.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Checked into my hotel about 1pm ($29 per night at the American Hotel). Made a bee line for BJ alley at 2pm. Met a 25 year old at the Black Pearl. Big smiles, enthusiastic, great sense of humor. 700p, lets go! Above average oral skills, happy and friendly in the sack. Shot some photos. Gave her 70p for trike ride back. Another great budget bump. Later, had a one hour oil massage. Not to bad. I needed that. 350p with tip. Couple hours later I went back to BJ alley and met a 22 year old at the Orange Inn, bubbly and cute. Paid the 700p and off we went. Snap some pictures, shower, great blow job! This one was a bit of a screamer. Screamers are under-rated I think. Had a great time. Gave her 70p for the trike ride and off she went. Another one for the record books.

About the lazy semi-pro I pulled out of High Society. It would not have mattered if I paid 3000 pesos. A lazy F*CK is a lazy F*CK. This vacation for me started March 28th. And I've nailed 44 girls. I paid $40 once and most of the rest were about $20. Out of the 44 girls so far. About six of them were so-so or lousy and the rest (36) have been good to great. Yes, sometimes you "get what you paid for". But a higher price does not always equal greater service. The law of average is still far in my favor.

[Sxxxx]

This once happened to me at Clark and I lost about 500p from my money belt but lucky I had cash in various pockets. Could've lost a lot more had I had all my cash in the money belt and not split it up. Had no choice as I objected but nothing I could do about it as I/ we can't really say no to a custom officier giving me an order to open my money belt for inspection. I think by law they could inspect anything they want and we have to obey or be detained. After mu angry objection he pulled me away and told me (in a not so friendly voice) to leave the area. Best to just call it a lost and leave as he could easily detain me overnight on false charges and miss my flight which would cost me a whole lot more. Also didn't attract attention other than the fact I was one of the only foreigners on line at the time. Cough it up as a small lost to a corrupt system and best to move on or face bigger losses for further confrontations with these corrupt idiots. Can't say I was happy with the whole thing but just have to try and forget about it.Yeh, but placing his hands INSIDE your money belt and taking money OUT is not on. He can ask you to remove the money and he can count it. I would not tolerate such aggressive behaviour, I would dive in behind him take it out and start counting it for him. If he took hold of money on the table outside the table I would watch him like a hawk. If he tried to take some money off me I would insist on the Supervisor / Manager. For sure, you do not just stand there and let them steal money like that, for sure.

Anyway you have your way, I have mine.

[BrainDrain]

Dropped by blow job alley for my first time. Fairly straight forward and simple process. Probably one of the best blow jobs I've had in my life."MIchelle" could certainly suck a cock and unlike her non-pro competitors she didn't tire.

The bar itself is certainly a dive. Led through out the back room through admin dept. Into a dingy room, low bed that doesn't look like the sheets have been changed. The door was a sheet of ply that held the curtain in place.

I was impressed hat Michelle went to the trouble of sanitising my cock before and after her performance.

Later in the afternoon met up with a DIA contact. She came across as a little nervous, didn't want to remove her dress. I thought she was turned off by something. ANyway, she was stopping me from feeling up under her dress. She was pretty wet after a while and happy to fuck but her dress and bra stayed on. From my judgement she was just conscious of her body which has delivered two babies, one of which was just two months ago. Buy like a good AC girl, she loved to fuck.

Had a few time wasters during the day. I was trying to ine my non-pro contacts while knowing this was my last night here. Just put too much pressure on them which resulted in a lack of action. I readjusted my sights and just relied upon my certainties. There really is so much talent here.

Happy hunting.

BD

[Llantarnam]

I visited AC recently for the first time in about 25 years. The flight from Singapore arrived about 15 minutes early so I had to wait for the driver from ABC to pick me up. I am only really a part time monger, but have sampled the local talent all over the world during my travels. Broadly places fit into one of 2 categories: high wage, high cost, no hassle (like Singapore) or low wage, low cost, plenty hassle (like Africa or Thailand). While AC clearly fits into the second category, it wasn't as big a sh*t hole that others have suggested. So having spent 4 days at ABC, this is my guide to AC by numbers;

0 – The number of times I felt threatened, of was assaulted or accosted. It's not paradise, but I always felt safe. Also the number of traffic accidents that I witnessed during my stay (but god knows how, given the driving skills of the average motorist)

1 – The number of times that the cashier from the corner store chased after me saying I had forgotten my 2 peso change.

2 – The number of western couples I saw at ABC. Why would a married couple come to AC?

2. 5 – There are 3 lap top computers in the foyer at ABC. I was using 1 to check the football results when a middle aged American sat down next to me with his Pinoy. I couldn't help look across to see what he was looking at on the internet. Turned out that his girl was showing him the facebook pages of her friends, so he could pick one for a 3 some (I've given this one 2. 5 because I don't know how this ended up).

3 – When I took my first stroll down Fields avenue the first people that I came across were 3 Korean's, who were the spitting image of Kim Jong-un. During my 4 days I saw lots of Koreans in the bars, but they acted no differently than anyone else. Just looking for a beer and a good time. Also the number of things to do in AC (sleep, drink, shag)

4 – The number of nights stayed at ABC, an ocean of calm in the middle of the AC chaos. Also, the number of ladies that I entertained during my stay. For me once a night is fine and I have no time for the Walter Mitty reports from people who have sex 6 times a day. 2 of the girls enquired about condom use during foreplay, the other 2 were happy to go bareback. I used a condom every time, but it does appear that the AC girls are not as keen on bareback as some suggest.

5 – Number of American bikers who came into the Artic bar while I was there. Must be awfully hot in AC with a leather jacket on.

6x – The mark up on the cost of a lady drink (25 peso of coke goes for 150 peso)

7 – Number of dancers on the stage at Ponytails during my only visit there. I had heard good things about this bar but there dancers were the least enthusiastic of any bar I went into. Big disappointment.

8 – Number of waitresses I saw in Phillies bar. They must have the tightest shorts and the firmest bums in town. Shame they're not available for takeout.

12. Approximate number of bars that I visited. Unless you have details on a particular establishment, there's no way to tell from the outside what to expect on the inside. I tried all sizes from Atlantis to D4. My favourite was Angel Witch, which is medium sized and always had good music and plenty of girls to choose from.

38p – The cheapest beer I could find in a bar (the Margarita station)

55p – The cost of beer in a bar on A Santos.

100. % of streets in AC that smell like your local sewerage treatment works.

150p – The typical cost of a lady drink in a bar.

290p – The typical daily rate of pay for a bar girl.

450p – The typical rate of pay for the mamasan (plus 10p for every lady drink that you buy)

500p – The cost of 4 x 100mg generic Viagra tablets at the drug store.

700p – The bar fine for the girl I took from one of the A Santos bars (opposite Cuba Cuba). She was just as attractive as the Fields bar girls and her oral skills were very good.

1000p – The price suggested by a street vendor for a box of 4 viagra tablets.

1800p – The typical bar fine for a Fields bar girls.

And some numbers that I can't quantify;

A) Number of times that I was approached by a beggar – lost count after first night.

B) Number of times I was offered Viagra – lost count after first hour.

So overall how does AC stack up against other locations I've been to?

Pros – cheap, plenty of choice, good locking girls, GFE, English spoken.

Cons – Only Pinoys available, bit of a shit hole, difficult to get to, lack of daytime activities, lack of back door action.

An enjoyable 4 days, but if price isn't an issue, I would take Rio every time.

[Freezone]

Checked into my hotel about 1pm ($29 per night at the American Hotel).

Met a 22 year old at the Orange Inn, bubbly and cute. Paid the 700p and off we went. Snap some pictures, shower, great blow job! This one was a bit of a screamer. Screamers are under-rated I think. Had a great time. Gave her 70p for the trike ride and off she went. Another one for the record books.Brave man to have stayed at the American Hotel as many pinays won't go there (they all believe its haunted)

Also never heard of a ST place called the Orange Inn? Is this place new and where exactly is it located.

[Freezone]

Yeh, but placing his hands INSIDE your money belt and taking money OUT is not on. He can ask you to remove the money and he can count it. I would not tolerate such aggressive behaviour, I would dive in behind him take it out and start counting it for him. If he took hold of money on the table outside the table I would watch him like a hawk. If he tried to take some money off me I would insist on the Supervisor / Manager. For sure, you do not just stand there and let them steal money like that, for sure.

Anyway you have your way, I have mine.Yeah, know what you mean. But that day I was already running late and in a rush to make my flight. Didn't have the time to wait it all out with an outcome in my favor. I could easily miss my flight that day had he detained me for even a short time to sort it all out. So my mind was thinking losing 500p or missing this flight which will mean missing my 2nd main connection flight back home which will cost me over $1000 to rebook. If I had an extra hr to kill, I would have made a stricter stand but time was not on my side.

Cheers

[Sxxxx]

Yeah, know what you mean. But that day I was already running late and in a rush to make my flight. Didn't have the time to wait it all out with an outcome in my favor. I could easily miss my flight that day had he detained me for even a short time to sort it all out. So my mind was thinking losing 500p or missing this flight which will mean missing my 2nd main connection flight back home which will cost me over $1000 to rebook. If I had an extra hr to kill, I would have made a stricter stand but time was not on my side.

CheersYou are forgiven my son. Sometimes I give a small souvenir type gift to a smiley customs whatever person, but when I know my rights, I play hard ball. Once they know, you know, what they can and can not do, they back off. Anyway they can not place their hands inside your money pouch and take some out and keep it LOL, that much I do know. They took some masking tape off me once, I said why, Security then demonstrated someone wrapping the tape around the mouth, terrorism, and all that, laughed and let him keep it.

Cheers

[Sixty Two Echo]

Went to the Black Pearl on BJ alley and met a 22 year old. Happy, touchy feely, lots of smiles. 700p and off we went. She had asked me at her bar where I was staying and when I told her America Hotel she smiled big. I gave her the oooooooo ghost sound and asked if she was afraid. She said no. So far most of my girls that I have brought here have heard it had ghost. But they still came with me. So after I finished with my girl (great BJ and great service BTW) I asked if she ever went by another name. When she said yes and told me what it was I said. I thought so. Yes, I had her four years ago. She didn't believe me until I pulled up her picture on my laptop. Yep, it was her.

At 8 pm I headed over to my new favorite bar. The TAO Bar. On walking street between Typhoon and the Viking bars. They have great shows there. Last night they had new shows too. They have over one hundred dancers total and lots of staff members. Kim (Kim So Young) was kind enough to take a couple of my orders. She was friendly and funny. I saw show after show. Each one better than the last. There would be 20 to 30 girls on the stage dancing with lots of enthusiasm and great performances. And the next group of girls would come on with the first group still on the stage. So you would be looking at 40-60 girls on stage. Soon after the second group showed up the first would leave. It's nice to see all those pretty faces on stage at one time. Overhead are another team of girls watching the girls on stage dance. So there were three or four groups of girls rotating. The Tao Bar gives Angel Witch in Pattaya a run for their money. I think The TAO Bar is better. More girls, lots of dancing (with energy not like most places where they are just shuffling their feet) , friendly staff, great shows! Before I knew it, it was almost 3 am. Time just flew by. Do yourself a favor and check it out. You won't be let down. This is the only bar I recommend visiting.

The Orange Inn Bar is right across from Cuba Cuba. It used to be called Goblers Bar four years ago. Now they have a banner hanging on the wall. Orange Inn. Maybe I didn't remember the name right. I am heading there soon and I will double check it.

[Dashing Don]

Hey mongers, what up?

I'm in Angeles right now. First time in about 10 years. Seems busier. I'm getting so much eye contact on the street in the middle of the afternoon that I'm wondering if the bars are necessary LOL. Got in from Puerto Princessa to Manila today and did Margaritaville to AC. Nice ride.

Arrived about two weeks ago and stayed in a condo by Greenbelt, courtesy of Airbnb. It was my first time using them. Two thumbs up. Got four nights for the price of one night at the Dusit; $270. No problem bringing the girls from the Havana area. All of which demanded that I glove up! What the F! Anyways, after sating my appetite I took off with my steady to Puerto. First time in Palawan. The people are darker, but still the same amiable, friendly Filipinos. All the nice spots are up by El Nido so we took the 7 hour van ride up there. This sucks. Interestingly, there were no power lines for most of the way and there were houses and little settlements here and there. The driver told me that the vast majority didn't have electricity. As I was with my girl I didn't have any time to check out any bar spots in PP if they exist. We took a 'City tour' which should be renamed 'City shopping tour' as that's what it really was about. Ate at Bruno's Swiss Deli / restaurant. I saw one KTV but my instincts tell me that the pickins are slim for the monger.

El Nido is as beautiful as the pictures suggest. Our hotel wasn't, however. Dirt road. Mosquitoes. Decaying fish smell. And, no power from six am to two thirty pm. The heat was intense. If there is cloud cover, its ok. If its clear, you'll bake. We hired a banka to go to some of the most beautiful spots anywhere. Hidden white sand beaches. Clean, deep water, perfect for snorkeling. It was terrific. We were told that the next island north of El Nido has just as good topography and you can fly directly (Busuanga) and be in Coron in less than an hour. This eliminates the seven hour van ride, which, the last two hours is over an unpaved road.

One of the things I love about the Phils is how relaxing it is. If you want to get laid, you can. Any hour of the day or night. Its just not an issue. I've also come to appreciate the decency and courtesy of the average Filipino. Sometimes, reading this board, it can seem like they are the enemy. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you have a good attitude, like to joke around and spread some cash, you'll never have a problem here. Those looking to establish a price for everything miss the value of the Phils as a whole.

[Pute Nut]

If you have a good attitude, like to joke around and spread some cash, you'll never have a problem here. Those looking to establish a price for everything miss the value of the Phils as a whole.I think you've captured the generous "galante" spirit of the friendly filipino here; they never, ever, haggle over anything, so why should you?

Good report, BTW, and congrats on securing a great deal on accomodation thru Airbnb.

[Member #4698]

one of the things i love about the phils is how relaxing it is. if you want to get laid, you can. any hour of the day or night. its just not an issue. i've also come to appreciate the decency and courtesy of the average filipino. sometimes, reading this board, it can seem like they are the enemy. nothing could be further from the truth. if you have a good attitude, like to joke around and spread some cash, you'll never have a problem here. those looking to establish a price for everything miss the value of the phils as a whole.good post, don. i like palawan a lot too. it is one of the last relatively unrep001hed natural beach destinations anywhere in asia. the port barton & san vincente (long beach) area is amazing too. same same as el nido: hire a boat and spend the day snorkeling off crystal clear reefs or swimming on virgin island beaches. 5 hours from pp. it goes without saying that palawan people are much more relaxed than luzon people (mnl, ac, subic).

based on my march visit to ac, let me recommend one eyed wench, angelwitch, and la bomba for good time, fun girls and golden nile for the crème de la crème. they call their top tier girls cultural dancers. 4100p ewr. quite a few of them were stunners.

[BrainDrain]

It's great to see so many current reports coming in from Angeles in the past few days. How many of you did I pass in the streets or wink at?

For my continuing education I took a couple of minutes to sit at the chairs in the ABC foyer. Amazing steady stream of girls going in and out. There really are so many great pinay bodies when they are put in tight clothes and nice heels.

The staff at ABC continue to impress me. For the four days that I was at the hotel I had my own steady stream of activities walking past reception, being called by reception when they arrived etc. Even with all of this activity, they are still happy to joke with me when i'm unaccompanied. They don't seem to judge or really bother about the activity of the guests.

Another thing I notice with the ABC staff is that they also treat the visiting ladies with respect. ie they treat them as guests in the right way. I stayed at another place once and they sort of treated the visiting girls like second class. So I think that also adds tot he experience.

[StephenIberico]

Big plus for me is also when the girls are treated as real girls and not bar girls, I agree it certainly adds to the GFE.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Went to BJ alley about 6:30pm. Found a 19, cute, bubbly shorty. Yeah, my red flag was waving. Turned out to be a really good time. Great BJ as usual. Funny and playful. This city rocks. Later I went to the TAO Bar. Found out the big shows are Thursday, Friday and Saturday. The other days of the week there are shows. Fewer shows, but still a lot of girls. When I first got there, some Korean guy was raining money from the upper levels. The girls were going crazy chasing down the falling bills. He went on and on and on. And the golden show ping pong balls dropped about six times during the night. Then some very popular guy showed up tossing out packs of cigarettes to the girls. Once again. They went crazy. The cherry on top was when a group of guys from Lebanon got ahold of the microphone and started singing one of their songs. It actually sounded really good. After singing, a girl lead him to the stage and he started dancing with four girls. It was too funny. Had to see it. Heard they are going to finish construction in May on the restaurant and disco on the third floor. Left about midnight and headed to High Society to catch up with some friends. It was so so. No cover charge this time. But a couple of hours later it quickly faded. Went back to BJ alley and found a 27 year old. Great job again. I haven't had a bad girl yet from these bars. The worst girl I had in AC was a semi pro I pulled out of High Society. She was just lazy.

[X Man]

I've stayed at America a few times and never had a gal refuse to join me. So I guess NOT ALL believe it is haunted.


Brave man to have stayed at the American Hotel as many pinays won't go there (they all believe its haunted)

Also never heard of a ST place called the Orange Inn? Is this place new and where exactly is it located.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Cruised BJ alley, didn't see anything that caught my eye. So I met up with friends for dinner. Came back to BJ alley and met a 20 year old. She too was a cutie. I am usually very cautious with the under 21 year olds that are pretty. Most of the time they don't perform well. At least that has been my experience. But that has not been the case here at BJ alley. I was talking to one of the mamsans and she was very proud that they taught their girls how to give great blow jobs. She said that all of the older girls teach the new ones the tricks of the trade. So when I was asked where I was staying, I said America Hotel. My girl made some faces and shied away. I asked if she was afraid. She said a little. I told her every girl I brought with me came back. She settled down and off we went. Another great performance. After, I went to the TAO Bar. It was slow. Had a few beers. Found out, besides the third floor having a restaurant and disco. They are going to have a "lady bar" too. The last few nights of staying up till 4 and 8 am finally caught up with me. Just had the one girl and a few beers. Decided to call it an early night. I need to start planning my trip to Jakarta, Indonesia. We leave tomorrow.

[WestCoast1]

Cruised BJ alley, didn't see anything that caught my eye. So I met up with friends for dinner. Came back to BJ alley and met a 20 year old. She too was a cutie. I am usually very cautious with the under 21 year olds that are pretty. Most of the time they don't perform well. At least that has been my experience. But that has not been the case here at BJ alley. I was talking to one of the mamsans and she was very proud that they taught their girls how to give great blow jobs. She said that all of the older girls teach the new ones the tricks of the trade. So when I was asked where I was staying, I said America Hotel. My girl made some faces and shied away. I asked if she was afraid. She said a little. I told her every girl I brought with me came back. She settled down and off we went. Another great performance. After, I went to the TAO Bar. It was slow. Had a few beers. Found out, besides the third floor having a restaurant and disco. They are going to have a "lady bar" too. The last few nights of staying up till 4 and 8 am finally caught up with me. Just had the one girl and a few beers. Decided to call it an early night. I need to start planning my trip to Jakarta, Indonesia. We leave tomorrow.62-E: Great set of reports. Sounds like a great trip. Newbs pay attention. Rest up chap, ya got to lotta shaggin' to do.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Thanks Westcoast1, slow going today too. Went to BJ alley, what else is new. Found another pretty one, young. 18. I know! Bad dog! We had a great time! Mid day sex! 18 year old girl and a 46 year old fat f*ck! Say no more! I have said it before and I will say it again. Under 21 years old and pretty. Not good? And as usual. BJ alley delivers! Great BJ, enthusiastic, fun and playful. Smiles a truck couldn't stop and the "don't make me go" attitude! Thank you AC! I am so sad to leave tomorrow!

Went to Atlantis. Pretty good show. Had two red horses. Then went to doll house. Another red horse. Then went to the TAO bar (Lite The Fire!). Had another red horse and countless other drinks my friends left behind (bf). Watched the show. Pretty good for a Tuesday. Found out the third floor is also going to have a "lady bar". Hey! Say "Hi" to Joe, John or Rico! They are friendly and would love to meet you! Just ask anybody that works there. Mention ISG and see if you get a response! Tell them 62Echo says hi! Went to High society, again. Not much going on there. It's late. Till next time. Rock On!

[ThatGuy865]

Thanks Westcoast1, slow going today too. Went to BJ alley, what else is new. Found another pretty one, young. 18. I know! Bad dog! We had a great time! Mid day sex! 18 year old girl and a 46 year old fat f*ck! Say no more! I have said it before and I will say it again. Under 21 years old and pretty. Not good? And as usual. BJ alley delivers! Great BJ, enthusiastic, fun and playful. Smiles a truck couldn't stop and the "don't make me go" attitude! Thank you AC! I am so sad to leave tomorrow!

Went to Atlantis. Pretty good show. Had two red horses. Then went to doll house. Another red horse. Then went to the TAO bar (Lite The Fire!). Had another red horse and countless other drinks my friends left behind (bf). Watched the show. Pretty good for a Tuesday. Found out the third floor is also going to have a "lady bar". Hey! Say "Hi" to Joe, John or Rico! They are friendly and would love to meet you! Just ask anybody that works there. Mention ISG and see if you get a response! Tell them 62Echo says hi! Went to High society, again. Not much going on there. It's late. Till next time. Rock On!Which BJ bar do you consider having the best talent. You seem to have sampled quite a selection. Which bar did the mamasan say they give instruction?

[Econo Tech]

If anybody was walking around Fields on the 14th of March, you maybe on Camera!

Heard from a reliable source that CNN had been secretly recording the goings on in Fields, on the 14th of March. As part of their documentary work!

[Chocha Monger]

If anybody was walking around Fields on the 14th of March, you maybe on Camera!

Heard from a reliable source that CNN had been secretly recording the goings on in Fields, on the 14th of March. As part of their documentary work!I'm sure a lot of mongers got caught on cam but CNN probably wouldn't show them on air as mongers unless they were doing something obvious like trying to score street meat or door girls. Is every foreigner caught strolling the track on Fields a monger? LOL

[Ekspat]

If anybody was walking around Fields on the 14th of March, you maybe on Camera!Too bad, I missed it by a few days only. Sigh!

[BionicMan]

I'm sure a lot of mongers got caught on cam but CNN probably wouldn't show them on air as mongers unless they were doing something obvious like trying to score street meat or door girls. Is every foreigner caught strolling the track on Fields a monger? LOLAnd even that they will pixel the faces as otehrwise they might be called to court.

[X Man]

Why do we use "monger" here? I really hate the term. Most dictionaries will give you "discreditable".

Hmmm,"sexologist" is a bit tricky to type. SM for sex maniac also seems negative, and could get confused with ShoeMart. SC for sex conessiur is good but if someone asks,"what does SC mean", then someone has to correctly spell "connoisseur" (thank you Websters).

Oops, I just realized that the M word can be used as both noun and verb. I'm at a loss. Any ideas? I like **** and to ****, but maybe that word gets deleted here.

Just another slt, X.

D2, I think it was a rhetorical question.


Was this a serious question?

[Member #4698]

Why do we use "monger" here? I really hate the term. Most dictionaries will give you "discreditable".I hate the term "monger" too and I never use it. A good alternative word that describes what we all like to do in more favorable and realistic terms is the word "punter". 'UK SLANG: a person who uses the services of a prostitute.' (Definition of punter noun (CUSTOMER) from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

Why describe ourselves using a term that is used by others to denigrate us and put our favorite sport down? Yeah, I am a punter. I am not a monger. I like to punt. I always treat my girls good and with respect so that we can all have a good time. Nobody is using anybody. We are all mutually consenting adults. There is nothing low and degrading about punting. The term "monger" implies there is something wrong and shameful with what we do. Fuck that bs!

[JPF]

I hate the term "monger" too and I never use it.I think the word "monger" itself is an attempt to remove the negative portion of the name.monger is generally a combination word and can mean either a dealer in a specific commodity (e. g. Fishmonger or cheesemonger) or someone who promotes a specified activity (e. g. Rumormonger or warmonger). Our use of the word, I think, removes the actual activity (I can't write the whole word or this site will replace it with *'s but it begins with) w h ... monger because we don't like to say that first part of the term. So, yes it is a discreditable activity but "monger" itself doesn't include the actual activity so to my eyes is no worse than punter which just substitutes football for sex metaphorically but everyone knows what it really means.

[StephenIberico]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, I see the term as quite funny, it's not as like you would put it down on your CV so does it really matter?

[Freezone]

Never knew where the term monger came from but there is a store in AC name "Monger".

I don't mind the term as it sounds better than pervert, sexual deviant etc etc. LOL

[Kiwistickman]

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[Joyride23]

Finally made my first trip to Angeles end of April / beginning of May and had a couple of days great partying. Have read about the place for quite some time (a few years) and been very curious about the action there. After a few days in the city have to wonder why I didn't go earlier. Anyway, have to thank all fellow members for great information that I'm sure helped me find some of the great places I really enjoyed. It certainly pays off to read the forum.

Arrival in Manila (terminal 2) worked much better than expected. Total time from leaving the plane to out of immigration and customs was around 15 minutes. Had a carry-on luggage though that shortened the time. Money exchange and then the driver from Pacific Breeze waited on the exact spot as described in email. Had made reservations through email and everything worked out as expected. A few beers for the 2 hour trip got me in even better mood.

On arrival at the hotel check in worked very smoothly and I was in the room in 5 minutes, ready to unpack and start to party. Stayed in the Executive room and think the hotel certainly is great value for money in a great location. Located close to Fields Pacific Breeze is a great place to stay but still quiet to get a good rest and especially close to the BJ bars on Santos Street. The room was very nice and big enough even with a few friends over. Reception was always solving issues at hand and extra plus to reservation for quick and good replies and finding solutions and providing the desired room. Nice environment with the hotel restaurant next to the pool area, very relaxing for breakfast there. Security gave the impression that they know what they are doing.

After check-in had a beer in the hotel bar but it was basically empty so headed to Kokomoz for some food, drinks and have a look at the talent that is passing by on the streets. Time for barhopping and started out in Angelwitch followed by Barhoppin and working my way up Fields even though not visiting all bars. In Lollipop I found a stunner for the first bar fine and back to the hotel. After 2 rounds she claim she have to leave, bummer. Off she left and still in party mood so went and checked out High Society. Even though it was Sunday evening the place was rocking. So many sexy ladies and one wildly dancing lady started to kissing and wanted to go home so off we went. Turned out to be a really lazy lady in bed though so not recommended. Guess the good old barfine is always worth it.

2nd day started out slowly recovering with a late breakfast and sending off the lady from High Society. In the afternoon started to walk along the Perimeter road and sampling out a few bars that have been suggested. Some of the bars were very quiet though but it might also be that it was too early in the afternoon. Had a few beers in ThiHi and HoneyKo's before got the great idea to try out Niftys Bar. What an amazing place this turned out to be, recommend everyone to at least try it once. Very small and very simple but the ladies were like crazy and by entering the bar immediately had 6 ladies and their hands massaging and grabbing all over me. How do you choose one then? Chose 2 and had 2 more drinks with them and they suggested we go. Not easy to say no then. Total damage including drinks 3000. Went back to hotel and started our private party even before the food from room service arrived. Even though kind of an incident when room service arrived it was all with a smile on the face from all involved (including room service lady). After a few hours the ladies wanted to leave so sent them off and headed out to check out a few bars. Ended the night with a new barfine of a sexy waitress from One Eyed Wench.

3rd day started with a 2nd round with the sexy lady from One Eyed Wench before sending her off. At breakfast got a message from a contact from DIA that had her day off from her bar and decided to meet up in early evening. Started early afternoon to check out a few more bars in Perimeter road and say hello to the amazing ladies in Niftys who wanted to go again but agreed to come back the day after. Met up with the DIA lady in Phillies before going for food, drinks and barhopping. Had a great time before ending up in the hotel room for a great night of action.

The 4th day was keen on trying out the blow job bars on Santos Street. Had a beer in Honky Tonk before so tried out Shadows which had a few sexy ladies. After the first beer of the day settled for short time and BJ in the back of the bar with a 20 year old. Quick and easy, definitely worth trying. Some food and a beer in Ponytails, Gentlemans Club, Ice Bar and some other bar which name I can't remember went back to Niftys to pick up my 2 ladies and ended up bringing back an additional lady for a final party back in the hotelroom. Partying and having a great time in the room with the 3 ladies until had to leave in the middle of the night for an early flight out of Manila. Very satisfied with the final night and have never felt so tired after such a short holiday before &61514; .

In summary, Angeles is a really amazing place, crazily fun. Felt like a kid in a candy store. 4 nights is of course too short and can only sample a tiny bit of everything on offer but also a great excuse to come back. Some great bars on Fields but I really liked to stroll the Perimeter bars from early afternoon. Based on my limited sample and in my opinion Niftys Bar is a must for anyone who like wild partying ladies. Other bars with great partying ladies who make sure you think you are in heaven include Barhoppin and One Eyed Wench. Of course plenty more great bars but think these were standing out from the others. Angeles City is certainly an absolutely great place for nice ladies, partying and fucking. In my opinion I prefer the Filipina ladies every day of the week. The ladies are so sexy and beautiful, great GFE and easy to speak with that I can't wait to get back. Even though it was a few very exhausting (but great fun) days, I left with a smile on my face and I'm sure I'll be back!

[WestCoast1]

Maybe we can spice this up. A little number from AC.

Kiwi: quit whining and post something!

[Anthony2012]

Philippines February 17- 28 2013.

Landed in Manilla headed up to Angel City and checked into the Pacific Breeze hotel. Service was great and it was there my business partner and I met some great chaps from California, Costa Rica and London. Over all experience was amazing. We used Cuba Cuba bar as a place to meet once we had all been out hunting and would share great stories. During the day we would go to the Parimeter bars. I got lucky and found some cutties at Ice Bar and Candy Bar. I found that going to the end of Perimeter and working your way back was a good idea till one caught your eye. I enjoyed the 750 peso blow job bars across from the Cuba Cuba and Wild Orchid Hotel was a great value or Short time on the Perimeter.

I was told by some veterans that if you wanted non pros that TGIF's and SM Mall were great places to go. The only mistake I made on the trip was not taking a girl to Boracay.

The food at Wild Orchid and Pacific breeze was very good. For Pizza Philies was the best.

Comparing all my adventures in Latin America, Poland, Germany and Thailand, AC wins hands down.

But I have not yet been to Argentina or Columbia.

Pulled some nice ones out of Pony Tails and Genesis.

The experience was amazing and I will always go back and try some new locations.

Amazing attitudes of the ladies. Amazing BJs.

[Wicked Roger]

Never knew where the term monger came from but there is a store in AC name "Monger".

I don't mind the term as it sounds better than pervert, sexual deviant etc etc. LOLAlso a shop in Burgos (Manila) near High Heels of the same name, does great heels, g strings, pek peks and super short dresses / mini skirts.

Cash only but worth every pesos on the slim cuties I am with.

[Sixty Two Echo]

just spent five days in jakarta, indonesia. i think the isg link was blocked. i checked it every day i was there. it said it was "broken". freedom of speech in a

muslim country. i don't think so! i could log into other sites, but not this one. albeit, the other sites weren't any sites to do with sex. the list of bars on bj alley: orange inn, heaven's, shadows and the black pearl. i think it's santo street. i think all of the girls get trained up there. sad part is i heard those bars are going to be torn down and replaced. probably with high dollar hotels or high dollar bars with high dollar bar fines. well, i'm in pattaya now, so i will move on. i need to add my indo reports.

[Irony Monger]

Just spent five days in Jakarta, Indonesia. I think the ISG link was blocked. I checked it every day I was there. It said it was "broken"First, why was this posted in the AC thread? Second, I find that TOR works well for most places if you want to bypass local restrictions. The Tails live CD (or bootable USB) is even better, as it leaves absolutely no trace on whatever machine you use in case they get curious about your activites when you leave their country (or try to re-enter your own).

https://tails.boum.org/

[BrainDrain]

AC never fails to surprise me with adventure. The girls are very service oriented.

Prior to arriving I spent some time meeting girls online via DIA. I do not think I will do this method again for AC. The girls I met this way were either locals whom frowned upon the sex tourists (which I'm obviously not) or they were bar girls promoting their bar or still needing to get a bar fine.

One girl I did meet was a former bar girl now cashier. She still had her custard belly after having given birth about 3 month ago (my estimate as she wouldn't admit). She had to sneek out of her venue to meet me. She was nice but in the courting process should have mentioned she was only available until work started. The idea for me of seeking out the DIA contacts is extended times not the bar girl cycle.

The other new experience for me this trip was blowjob bar. P700 as has been previously stated. The rear room was dirty and I certainly felt unclean in there knowing you guys have been coming in their so much. The girl did start and finish by wiping down my cock with disinfectant. I thought that was a nice touch. The inroom spitbucket was also new to me. I didn't look at how much come was already in that bucket.

Other experiences, met a DIA girl and her sister for food at SM. They came back to the room and things went nowhere. Had to ditch them quickly.

The rest of the time I had excellent AC adventures but nothing which adds to the body of knowledge. Club Asia was my favourite var this time around.

BD

[Irony Monger]

Prior to arriving I spent some time meeting girls online via DIA. I do not think I will do this method again for AC.Yeah, DIA and AC don't mix in my opinion. Go to AC for the bars, go elsewhere for DIA dates.

[JPF]

Yeah, DIA and AC don't mix in my opinion. Go to AC for the bars, go elsewhere for DIA dates.I thought the same but a fellow monger had good success with DIA the last time I was in AC so I tried it on my most recent visit. I had two "dates" and both were similar to my experience with DIA in other locations. One was an innocent who came with her mother and had never met a foreigner before. I don't think she had had ever been in the Fields area. The other was a semipro who met foreigners often but she said that she had never worked in a bar.

My conclusion is that if DIA works for you in other cities it is worth a try in AC, too. I know I will use it again.

[BrainDrain]

My conclusion is that if DIA works for you in other cities it is worth a try in AC, too. I know I will use it again.Actually that is an interesting point. I have had good success with DIA contacts and AC but this time I couldn't factor the 'time' into my activities. The non-regulars are usually late and are no guarantee. Sometimes they take a second visit until they are comfortable. I needed to have the fall back to be patient with the DIA girls. They continued to text me the following day but their opportunity had passed.

Also, I visit infrequently, about every three months to AC, the contacts from one visit quite often have expired, moved on, found work, lost phones etc and are not prospects for the next visit.

I'm still see a lady in AC from a DIA contact from last August, things aren't that bad.

[Kartolo]

The list of bars on BJ alley: Orange Inn, Heaven's, Shadows and The Black Pearl. I think it's santo street. I think all of the girls get trained up there. Sad part is I heard those bars are going to be torn down and replaced. Probably with high dollar hotels or high dollar bars with high dollar bar fines.As back up, there is always Raymond Street.

[BgSexPat]

first post. one week of fun.

i have been visiting this site for awhile and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute. i have been venturing to ac for many years to get away and relax. i am always amazed at the never ending stream of pussy for the taking.

on this trip i took the fly the bus to ac from manila as i was bringing some video equipment and hoped to make some homemade videos. i know genesis or philippine rabbit is cheaper but i like that fly the bus drops you off at (or near) your hotel. for this trip i decided to stay at walkabout hotel. i stayed in the standard rooms before but this time wanted something bigger so booked a deluxe. i was not disappointed as the room was a decent size and they have great water pressure with lots of hot water (something sometimes lacking in other budget priced rooms). location is ideal and staff are friendly. they have a small pool but didn't swim.

i had arranged to meet a dia girl on day 2 so on this first night i was free to explore. lately i have been trying my luck with freelancers with good success. since i like to make videos i found the freelancers easier to agree to videos and photos and since you are not paying a barfine the cost is more reasonable. after having a nice dinner at kokomoz i did a walk up and down fields. it was still early so much much street action. i popped into a few bars for some beers and to loosen up. after that i headed up towards the 7-eleven where i found a cute little spinner. now with freelance girls you have to be more careful so i made sure she had an i'd and agreed to photos and videos. at the room i immediately took a photo of her i'd. i also have her sign a model release and explain how it is for my protection. although not full proof it helps to keep them from later pulling the "**** scam". the model release states the i'd they give is original and they swear they are over 18. with the formalities over we quickly start to make a video. i have a remote for the video camera which helps to zoom in and out and i connect it to the tv with a hdmi connection so i can see what i'm filming. she is shy at first but soon fascinated by watching herself being fucked. she ended up being very enthusiastic and willing to try all positions before i cum in her mouth. i pay her 2, 000 pesos for the effort and off she went. now as soon as a girl leaves i immediately download the video and photos and encrypt it. i use a program call truecrypt which is free and lets you hide an encrypted folder on your computer. then all traces are erased. i keep a few sexy photos (with their clothes on) saved on the computer. guess i'm paranoid but worse case i would show those photos and say that is all i have and not sure why girl is claiming otherwise. after everything is encrypted and files wiped (i also use another program called steganos which is not free but does a good job at wiping data) i headed over to high society. it was already about 2am and the place was not overly crowded. didn't see anything worth while and i was already beat so had a beer and headed back to my hotel to sleep.

on day two my dia girl arrived right on time. i was really impressed. nice tight body and clearly has never had a baby. she even brought a vibrator with her which she used on herself while i filmed. this girl was really kinky and had a great time with her. when we were done she wanted to go out for awhile which surprised me but i agreed. now in the back of my mind i'm thinking this is where she takes me to all the bars she has friends in and asks me to buy them ladies drinks. but that wasn't the case and we had a great time barhopping. ended up at a place that had a live band (sorry can't remember the name but past clarkton hotel). she even wanted to ride the jeepney to save money. ended up going back to room at 4am where we slept together. real gfe experience.

day three started off with her asking if i wanted her to bring a friend over. they would eat each other while i filmed then i could fuck both of them. now i have always found it hard to find girls in ac that eat each other let alone let me film so i agreed. we agreed to meet later in the afternoon. at 4pm she arrives with her friend who is another cute 22 year old. claims she doesn't work in the bar but needs money. my dia girl practically [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) this girl with her tongue and then with the dildo. i was in heaven. after they finished i asked my dia girl if she could film me havingg sex with her friend. she agrees and i had a great time with her friend while she filmed. after i finished with the friend we rested a few hours then the other girl filmed while i had my turn with the dia girl. what a blast. now i figured after having sex with her friend the gfe experience would be gone but that was not the case. she gave me a nice massage later as i was tired and we just watched tv and slept early.

the next four days was basically the same thing. each day my dia girl brought over a friend and they would first have a lesbian expeirence then i would have my way with each of them. i shot so much video i had to go by an extra external drive. best part is i got photos of ids and model releases each time.

after seven days my dia girl told me she had a korean customer coming who was going to take her to boracay. that was okay with me and she promises to call me in 5-days when she finishes with him. i need the rest anyway so i am going to head to subic until she returns. she also promised me more new girls. i'm not sure where she gets them but i don't really care. i think part of it is she really likes girls and is using me and my money to get them to have lesbian experiences. that is fine with me.

since there are not that many recent posts about subic (baloy beach area) i will make a report on the bars here as well as the hotel i'm staying at. i will also post some photos later but want to wait till i head out of ac after meeting the dia girl again. don't want to do anything to ruin what has been my best experience in more than a decade of visiting ac.

[Strikesfun]

Here is an recent message from AC. Follow line http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1162

Internet Bulletin Boards & Social Networks.

The internet continues to have both a positive and a negative impact on Angeles City and many destinations around the world.

Through the internet it is now easy to perform a search on a destination and get detailed information about hotels, restaurants, tourist activities, and even nightlife. You can make reservations quickly through email. But, IMO the negative impacts of internet bulletin boards and social media sights far outweighs the positive when it comes to single male tourists visiting the Philippines. Many guys return from a trip to the PI and cannot resist posting explicit photos and details of their trip on the internet without a thought of the impact to the girls or the businesses they name in these posts.

Flash back to the mid 90&65533; s a guy named Rob Valarie posted on a open website that guys could buy a girl on Santos Street for the price of a cheeseburger. It wasn&65533; t long before one of the national newspapers picked up on the story. Within a day, all the national daily papers found the website and wrote more articles condemning him and his web postings. Pressure on the mayor from the President had the police beating the bushes for Rob. He disappeared and his postings stopped. He disappeared and has never been heard from again. But, he had a lasting effect. The pressure on the mayor to clean up the entertainment area led to an extended ban on bikini&65533; s in the clubs even though the girls on Eat Bulaga wore more revealing clothes on daytime TV than was allowed in the clubs of AC.

Over the years other internet posts have led directly to raids on clubs or individuals private residences. Despite very few convictions and incarcerations (most probably because of large sums of money changing hands between the accused and the authorities). One side effect of these raids has been an increased presence of NGO&65533; s with funding to attack the evil nightclubs. In the last few years numerous clubs have been raided on tips that the club employs under-aged girls. In the majority of the raids it turns out that there were no under-aged girls present unless it was the occasional plant by the NGO&65533; s. Still, clubs stay closed for months or even years and some legal employees languish in jail for months or years without any formal charges or hearings before a judge. Still another side effect is increased funding for these NGO&65533; s for making another successful bar closure, even if it is usually temporary.

To combat this problem, many local bulletin boards were converted to pay sites. Most of those that are not pay sites still require a password to access the postings. This has helped shield some of the harmful information from public viewing, but it is only a matter of time before some of these increasingly well funded NGO&65533; s start penetrating local adult sites.

In addition to the NGO&65533; s, there are individuals around Asia putting up websites where people can turn in individuals. These range from: a guy in Cebu that has a &65533; Wall of Shame&65533; about foreigners behaving inappropriately; to the Department of Special Investigation in Thailand which has announced the launch of a facebook page

[TigerJoy123]

Several members have already mentioned this. However, I want to assure you that you will not have any issue because of your looks. I will consider myself in your category as well. I think I have visited AC for about 6 times in the last 3 years. I stay around 7-10 days. I have not encountered any issues. Here are some practices that work for me (your odds will go up with experience) :

1. I have a list of about 10 questions and I make sure that I ask all of them. It is not guaranteed but is sure increases the odds (it is rare that I get a runner now).

2. Don't be a cheap charlie.

3. Treat them with respect.

4. Don't grab their private parts in the bar till they initiate it or give you signal to do so.

5. Learn a few words of Tagalog to make a connection and break the ice.

6. If it is not working, cut your losses and move on to the next one. Plenty of fish out there.

7. Take time to read this forum. Go several years back. Any question that you can imagine, has been replied several times in the past by some very experienced members (I am just a novice). You will save time, money and your sanity.

Good luck (you will do just fine).


Hi,

Senior members, will it be a problem for an Indian guy from Guyana in Angles city, as I have read that Indian from India have a bead rep.

We are different from those guys as we only speak English as our lifestyle is totally different. We are totally party guys with no hang ups.

Also we are not cheap, knows how to treat women kindly. By the way I am a Canadian Citizen but moved back to Guyana about 17 years.

I am now 52 years, so time to start this hobby.

Thanks Sureman.

[Rick Rock]

Now with freelance girls you have to be more careful so I made sure she had an I'd and agreed to photos and videos.All moot. It's illegal to produce pornography in the Philippines. Period. This is like having a contract for a trike driver to deliver you a kilo of dope for a set amount of money. You have a signed agreement between two people to break the law, which will protect you from absolutely nothing. Even worse, the onus is on you to know her actual age. Her "promising" that she's over 18 or even using fake I'd is no protection under the law.

[Mr Enternational]

Check this out:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/06/world/asia/freedom-fighter-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

[LifeIsABeach]

Several members have already mentioned this. However, I want to assure you that you will not have any issue because of your looks. I will consider myself in your category as well.AC is one place where you will see some very old smelly guys with WGs young enough to be their grand children. You have money, they'll stay with you as long as you have the money. Does not matter you are Indian, Korean, British, American, Arab etc. Money talks. As mentioned by others, still treat them with respect and you'll get better service in bed.

It's a different place. The hotels know what you are there for and don't even bat an eye lid when you bring the girl back. Just have fun.

[PeeMan]

greetings,

i am heading to manila for a few nights tomorrow. my intinerary unfortunately does not have time for angeles city overnight. however the the photos and this thread look too tempting for me not to visit. how good is the idea of a day trip to angeles? i would like to visit the bj bars and have two gals lollipop me (doesn't look like theres any bj bar in manila). is it worth the hassle and time?

and is 1pm a good time to reach angeles for this? whats the least hassle free way to journey from intramuros to where the bj bars are, by public transport? i am thinking swagmans bus, but if there another good alternative would like to hear about it). i would like to return at 5pm to reach my hotel before 7pm so i can get fresh and head out to the fl cafe's in manila. in the evening i plan to visit mbc or havana at manila to pick up an fl for the night (or a few days, for a trip to puerto galera. if any of you has a recent experience at sabang, please reply to my post in the makati thread ).

any new recommendation for bj bars thats not in the older posts? should i find my way to where the bars like angel witch, cuba, typhoon and tao are or is it another place like santos street that i need to head to for the bj bars? its been a few weeks since i browsed this thread because my intinerary did not plan on angeles city, so my memory is hazy. by the time somebody responds, i will have re-visited the older threads for sure, but i hope someone chatty will reply in kind anyways. particularly i would like to know if the current rates are still around 700peso at the bj bars.

thanks.

-peeman

[X Man]

one day trip. no, that's not a good idea. there is plenty to see and do in manila.


greetings,

i am heading to manila for a few nights tomorrow. my intinerary unfortunately does not have time for angeles city overnight. however the the photos and this thread look too tempting for me not to visit. how good is the idea of a day trip to angeles? i would like to visit the bj bars and have two gals lollipop me (doesn't look like theres any bj bar in manila). is it worth the hassle and time?

and is 1pm a good time to reach angeles for this? whats the least hassle free way to journey from intramuros to where the bj bars are, by public transport? i am thinking swagmans bus, but if there another good alternative would like to hear about it). i would like to return at 5pm to reach my hotel before 7pm so i can get fresh and head out to the fl cafe's in manila. in the evening i plan to visit mbc or havana at manila to pick up an fl for the night (or a few days, for a trip to puerto galera. if any of you has a recent experience at sabang, please reply to my post in the makati thread ).

any new recommendation for bj bars thats not in the older posts? should i find my way to where the bars like angel witch, cuba, typhoon and tao are or is it another place like santos street that i need to head to for the bj bars? its been a few weeks since i browsed this thread because my intinerary did not plan on angeles city, so my memory is hazy. by the time somebody responds, i will have re-visited the older threads for sure, but i hope someone chatty will reply in kind anyways. particularly i would like to know if the current rates are still around 700peso at the bj bars.

thanks.

-peeman

[Radical Guy]

After seven days my DIA girl told me she had a korean customer coming who was going to take her to Boracay. That was okay with me and she promises to call me in 5-days when she finishes with him.Though I wouldn't expect such girls to be faithful, having such information would be an instant turnoff. I'd be anticipating that the girl would return with a pussy that smelled like kimchi. LOL.

RG

[Psychman]

Though I wouldn't expect such girls to be faithful, having such information would be an instant turnoff. I'd be anticipating that the girl would return with a pussy that smelled like kimchi. LOL.

RGYou think a lot of the Western guys smell good? Ha ha. Korean guys are known, often, to pay a great deal more than Western guys, so her loyalty is to her ultimate master, the ol' mighty peso. While it might be a bit of a buzz kill, it can also be a good dose of reality. GFE is GFE, not GF, right?

[Dante2]

peeman you can get a bj at high heels in manila for 1500 or less if you negotiate. no its not 700 but it saves you the bus fare and 3 hours sitting on a bus.

won't get 2 girls for that price but can get another to join you and feel around on her for a small tip.

[Mbsl65]

You think a lot of the Western guys smell good? Ha ha. Korean guys are known, often, to pay a great deal more than Western guys, so her loyalty is to her ultimate master, the ol' mighty peso. While it might be a bit of a buzz kill, it can also be a good dose of reality. GFE is GFE, not GF, right?Did you travel by Asiana or Korean Airlines or Juju Air in a closed space minimum 4 hours flight?

[PeeMan]

peeman you can get a bj at high heels in manila for 1500 or less if you negotiate. no its not 700 but it saves you the bus fare and 3 hours sitting on a bus.

won't get 2 girls for that price but can get another to join you and feel around on her for a small tip.oh 3 hours? i thought just below 2. and i meant 700 per gal.

tts definitely not worth 6 hours of my time up and down.

that resolves my dilemna. i'm not going. thanks.

peeman

[Wicked Roger]

oh 3 hours? i thought just below 2. and i meant 700 per gal.

tts definitely not worth 6 hours of my time up and down.

that resolves my dilemna. i'm not going. thanks.

-peemani think peeman and d2 should meet you if either ever get to the philippines. both cheap charlies, both ask lots questions, both give nothing back, a love match lol

[Boofa69]

peeman you can get a bj at high heels in manila for 1500 or less if you negotiate. no its not 700 but it saves you the bus fare and 3 hours sitting on a bus.

won't get 2 girls for that price but can get another to join you and feel around on her for a small tip.a blowjob in high heels is only 500 pesos. you can fuck a girl in the vip room for 1500 pesos but you have to pay for using the room which is 1500 pesos too.

[Tedward]

I hear some guys tore up La Bamba last week. Closed the bar for the night.

Any details?

[PeeMan]

a blowjob in high heels is only 500 pesos. you can fuck a girl in the vip room for 1500 pesos but you have to pay for using the room which is 1500 pesos too.great! so two gals together for 1000. not bad. how are the gals here?

where exactly is this place? two places i can't find on the map are mbc and this hh.

peeman

[Dante2]

you can really get one at high heels for 500? you don't have to pay for a back room or anything?

peeman i meant 3 hours total for the bus ride. but as you can read here its really not worth it when you can find the same thing in manila.

thanks for your normal helpful post roger

[Fast Eddie 48]

great! so two gals together for 1000. not bad. how are the gals here?

where exactly is this place? two places i can't find on the map are mbc and this hh.

-peemanto peeman.

you cannot add 1500 + 1500 + 500 p is 3500 p and cannot read map.

fast eddie 48

[Fifty Pesos]

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[D Cups]

high heels is on burgos in makati. i went into the backroom of high heels about 18 months ago and had a great time with with some busty vixen there. i don't recall the cost but it was worth it. high heels used to be known for amply endowed pinays but i don't know if that still holds true. enjoy!


great! so two gals together for 1000. not bad. how are the gals here?

where exactly is this place? two places i can't find on the map are mbc and this hh.

peeman

[Dante2]

Roger you bored with chasing camels around middle-eastern deserts? Instead of riding these guys with your lame jokes you should be using that time to shed some of that excess weight from your posterior. I am sure those 90 pound Filipinas you like to smother with body fat, gag and dog collar would appreciate it.[Deleted by Admin]

When I went to high heels the girl sad 2500 for a blowjob, I said no, then she said 1500 and I said no, so she just went on stroking me off through my pants while I played with her big exposed boobs and tipped her after.

It was quite an experience sitting there with 4 girls sitting around you your hand going from boob to boob to boob.

I'm curious for the 500 blowjob you have to pay the 1500 back room fee right?

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[Sammon]

From Cebu took a flight to Angeles. On landing usual taxi mafia but I had met another guy on the flight and we negotiated 150 pesos each to hotel on fields.

After a shower walk on fields. Usual door girls beckoning, some girls distributing flighers for bouy one get one free drinks, beggars, children and viagra salesmen. Dodged all and ate dinner at moes.

My new found friend wanted to join me for barhopping. First stop crystal palace. Drinks are reasonable at 95 pesos a beer but the barfine for any lady there including waitress and mamasan is 3000 pesos. Golly!

No tier system here.

A quick stop to one drink at Atlantis, same ridiculous prices.

Me and my friend decided to use the bogo coupon and went to a bar little inside fields not on the streetfront. Forget the name. We each had two beers.

Asked a pretty girl with nice boobs if she will stay till morning and she agreed. I took the girl for 1800 pesos barfine and split and my friend also barfined a girl there.

Nice no smell girl ready to please. Young 19 year old with nice pointy boobs. In the room shower separate and had a nice round and went to sleep. After a couple of hours she woke me up for another round. I guess she was horny.

A third round in the morning and off she goes with a tip.

Daytime is spent with massage, facial, feet scrubbing. Nice lunch and I was really tired and slept till 7 pm.

I had chatted with a girl on DIA and had texted her before. She texted me back and was demanding 3000 pesos. I offered only 1000. Anyway she said she is bored and came over. Nice girl, very pleasant and no smell.

She said she has a twin sister there and both are working as freelancers in AC. If anybody wants to fuck twin sisters message me.

We went barhopping after a marathon sex session once again with my friend and his lady who he had barfined from somewhere. He told me she is a cherry girl. Anyway I guess that is what he wanted.

After blue nile which has gone downhill after the raid we all went to skytracks. Me and my girl danced nicely. Couple of hours there and back to the room. Another round of nice sex and we sleep.

In the morning another round of sex. I took her for breakfast and gave her 1500 pesos. Very nice GFE if anybody wants to try a non bargirl.

Caught the 12 noon fly the bus to Manila for my last leg of the trip. Will post report as well as the pics soon.

[Mr Enternational]

Nice no smell girl ready to please... Nice girl, very pleasant and no smell.Sam, have you really had that many problems with women having smells in the past? Your report makes it seem outside the norm or that you got lucky that there was "no smell."

[Sammon]

Sam, have you really had that many problems with women having smells in the past? Your report makes it seem outside the norm or that you got lucky that there was "no smell."I have had my share of " smelly " women. Most are because of bad hygiene in their homes. Once they took a shower and brushed their teeth the smell is gone. But some are really smelly down there. I always put my finger.

Into their pussy and smell them before they take a shower. In case of bad smell I tend to say good bye to them before anything. I like clean girls.

[Radical Guy]

I have had my share of " smelly " women. Most are because of bad hygiene in their homes. Once they took a shower and brushed their teeth the smell is gone. But some are really smelly down there. I always put my finger.

Into their pussy and smell them before they take a shower. In case of bad smell I tend to say good bye to them before anything. I like clean girls.As a group, I must say that Filipinas are among the most hygienic of all women I've encountered around the world, and certainly more so than the average American woman.

RG

[Sxxxx]

As a group, I must say that Filipinas are among the most hygienic of all women I've encountered around the world, and certainly more so than the average American woman.RGIn respect of personal hygiene Thai girls easily beat the Philippine girls. In other matters Philippine girls easily beat the Thais.

[D Cups]

True. A stinky pussy turns my stiffy into a limpy.


As a group, I must say that Filipinas are among the most hygienic of all women I've encountered around the world, and certainly more so than the average American woman.

RG

[Hutsori]

In respect of personal hygiene Thai girls easily beat the Philippine girls.I hesitate to mention this because I don't want to see 35 posts on the issue, yet... I have some concerns about the over use of douche by Filipinas. I'd say over 50% of those I've met use the sachet-packed douche sold at the convenience stores or Lactcyd, a bottled douche and "whitener" sold at the chemist. Firstly, are the girls using this to mask a problem? Secondly, douching, especially by women with multiple partners, can actually contribute to trichomoniasis and bacterial vaginosis. Now, the gross bit: I always shower after the girl, and since Filipinas tend to use pantyliners, I check the bin and look at her disposed one. Sure it isn't science, but as an imperfect early warning system it gives me an idea of what's ahead.


In other matters Philippine girls easily beat the Thais.Not in cooking delicious foods.

[Dewdrops]

I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?

[Dick Hertz]

The bar fines on Field st. Is getting outrageous at the big clubs. I was amazed and the the talent down on Don Juico ave or Perimeter Road. When I first came to AC four years ago I thought that was where all the washed up bar girls when but boy was I wrong. I founded some of the best looking girls who gave great preformance but I also had a girl give me my worst time there too. Plus bar fines are as low as 900 peso. Altough these places are not for everyone. If you are a person who like the pole dancing show an alot of space you may not like these places because they look like shacks but that is up to you. I just think more people should take a look down there but be aware that these clubs close early.

[Freezone]

I hesitate to mention this because I don't want to see 35 posts on the issue, yet. I have some concerns about the over use of douche by Filipinas. I'd say over 50% of those I've met use the sachet-packed douche sold at the convenience stores or Lactcyd, a bottled douche and "whitener" sold at the chemist. Firstly, are the girls using this to mask a problem? Secondly, douching, especially by women with multiple partners, can actually contribute to trichomoniasis and bacterial vaginosis. Now, the gross bit: I always shower after the girl, and since Filipinas tend to use pantyliners, I check the bin and look at her disposed one. Sure it isn't science, but as an imperfect early warning system it gives me an idea of what's ahead.Yes, sometimes true as a "stink" could mean the girl is infected. The bacteria and fungal growth do give out a very strong musty odor. If unsure, suggest guys avoid them. Remember condoms are only about 95-98% effective so still have chance to get what she got.

[Sam 14]

About the cleanest, sweetest smelling pussy I ever came across belonged to an Indonesian girl I lived with for many years. She never in the past and never in the future will use douche. Evidentally it's not necessary.

Reoccurring yeast infections can also be at least partially due to diet, I believe. Something about eating a diet high in sugar and/or an iron-deficiency type of anemia. There's not much probiotics in their diet either, just bad bacteria.


I hesitate to mention this because I don't want to see 35 posts on the issue, yet. I have some concerns about the over use of douche by Filipinas. I'd say over 50% of those I've met use the sachet-packed douche sold at the convenience stores or Lactcyd, a bottled douche and "whitener" sold at the chemist. Firstly, are the girls using this to mask a problem? Secondly, douching, especially by women with multiple partners, can actually contribute to trichomoniasis and bacterial vaginosis. Now, the gross bit: I always shower after the girl, and since Filipinas tend to use pantyliners, I check the bin and look at her disposed one. Sure it isn't science, but as an imperfect early warning system it gives me an idea of what's ahead.

[Sammon]

I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?I know a girl who can help you find a pregnant girl to fuck. If you pm me I can give her contact info.

She lives in angeles city.

She had helped another guy of this forum peviously after he contacted her. Ofcourse she is looking to.

Make money also.

[Blackypop]

I know a girl who can help you find a pregnant girl to fuck. If you pm me I can give her contact info.

She lives in Angeles City.

She had helped another guy of this forum peviously after he contacted her. Ofcourse she is looking to make money also.I am interested too.

Blackypop

[Joyride23]

The bar fines on Field st. Is getting outrageous at the big clubs. I was amazed and the the talent down on Don Juico ave or Perimeter Road. When I first came to AC four years ago I thought that was where all the washed up bar girls when but boy was I wrong. I founded some of the best looking girls who gave great preformance but I also had a girl give me my worst time there too. Plus bar fines are as low as 900 peso. Altough these places are not for everyone. If you are a person who like the pole dancing show an alot of space you may not like these places because they look like shacks but that is up to you. I just think more people should take a look down there but be aware that these clubs close early.Could not agree more. Highly recommend Nifty's for everyone.

[Samy69]

Hi,

Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.

Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?

* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.

* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?

* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?

* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.

Thanks

[Almotu]

Guys, I normally don't give two shits about lurkers but this guy wasted my time on the Brasil board when I tried to help him with his numerous questions.

Check out this guy's post history before you answer this serial non-contributor.


Hi,

Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.

Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?

* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.

* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?

* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?

* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.

Thanks

[Jack4765]

The bar fines on Field st. Is getting outrageous at the big clubs. I was amazed and the the talent down on Don Juico ave or Perimeter Road. When I first came to AC four years ago I thought that was where all the washed up bar girls when but boy was I wrong. I founded some of the best looking girls who gave great preformance but I also had a girl give me my worst time there too. Plus bar fines are as low as 900 peso. Altough these places are not for everyone. If you are a person who like the pole dancing show an alot of space you may not like these places because they look like shacks but that is up to you. I just think more people should take a look down there but be aware that these clubs close early.I agree whole heartedly! I did 2 really nice ones ST there. Be aware, the room is not so nice but the girls were great. I would have barfined either one if I didn't have plans already.

[Wicked Roger]

Guys, I normally don't give two shits about lurkers but this guy wasted my time on the Brasil board when I tried to help him with his numerous questions.

Check out this guy's post history before you answer this serial non-contributor.Almotu.

See the Manila thread as I did and the guy is time waster and numpty as he asks the same sort of stuff all over the place, and supposed be coming to PI a year ago.

Sammy RTFF or preferably stop wasting our time.

Back to bed LOL

[Mr Enternational]

I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?He's writing the same thing all over the Thailand threads.

[Exoticspirit]

If my flight into Manila gets in say after 9 or 10 pm or even later, what would be the best way to get into AC? Are there still buses running at night?

And same with return back to Manila. How early do buses run if I end up with a very early (say 8 or 9 am flight departure)?

Or would I really have to stay a night in Manila upon arrival as well as just before departure?

[Sammon]

The bar fines on Field st. Is getting outrageous at the big clubs. I was amazed and the the talent down on Don Juico ave or Perimeter Road. When I first came to AC four years ago I thought that was where all the washed up bar girls when but boy was I wrong. I founded some of the best looking girls who gave great preformance but I also had a girl give me my worst time there too. Plus bar fines are as low as 900 peso. Altough these places are not for everyone. If you are a person who like the pole dancing show an alot of space you may not like these places because they look like shacks but that is up to you. I just think more people should take a look down there but be aware that these clubs close early.Do not know who has 900 pesos barfine anymore? Even the perimeter bars have the lowest at 1200. But these are for ugly girls. Reasonably good looking are min 1500 at perimeter bars. One bar had 1200, 1500, 1800 tiers.

Another problem with perimeter bars are they open around 12 noon and close by 10 PM. If you go there around 7-8 PM no good looking girls are left. I had barfined one good looking girl before at 2 PM. But after sex couple of times

Do not know what to do. Took her for dinner and suggested bar hopping but she was not into it. Back in the room I got so bored with her I asked her to leave.

This is the pitfall if you barfine early. Unless the chemistry is there hard to keep company for long after the sexual desires are done.

Usually I like to barfine at about 11 PM and one round at night, another round in the morning. If there is chemistry the girl will stay till evening and lunch + some shopping is in order.

[Samy69]

Guys, I normally don't give two shits about lurkers but this guy wasted my time on the Brasil board when I tried to help him with his numerous questions.

Check out this guy's post history before you answer this serial non-contributor.Why so angry if I don't travel much and don't contribute because of this?

Just don't answer.

You (tried to) helped me with Brazil visit. Don't remember. If you did, thank you so much. Visited Rio for one week. Stayed in a shithole (may be I didn't listen you, don't know). Didn't want to contribute about it because I would criticise a member (I am sure you know who he is: A special person.). My Rio visit was a few termas and nothing special, no need to talk about. May be I should write: I will not repeat, as prices up. Want to try new places when I can arrange my holiday once in one or two years.

Planned to visit Philippines last year, I couldn't organise. Could do it this year.

Please tell me what's wrong with this? Instead of attack say me RTFF please and I will do it.

Asked the same questions to Manila section too, will visit there first.

One member (Red Kilt) was quite polite to answer. Doesn't mean who didn't answer not. At least they don't attack.

I think you are an old guy, who has nothing to do in front of screen and try to find something to do and attack to non-active members who ask questions. What can I say, it is your way. My way is always try to help as much as I can.

[FreebieFan]

Hi,

Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.

Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?

* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.

* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?

* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?

* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.

ThanksYou should stay home, learn to do the dishes when Mom tells you to, clean your room, stop picking boogers and finish your homework.

[D Cups]

I don't know how late the bus runs to / from AC but if I were you I'd hole up near Manila Bay Club and get a piece there before going elsewhere.


If my flight into Manila gets in say after 9 or 10 pm or even later, what would be the best way to get into AC? Are there still buses running at night?

And same with return back to Manila. How early do buses run if I end up with a very early (say 8 or 9 am flight departure)?

Or would I really have to stay a night in Manila upon arrival as well as just before departure?

[Samy69]

You should stay home, learn to do the dishes when Mom tells you to, clean your room, stop picking boogers and finish your homework.Ok Fan, will do it, if you will be happy.)

[YG365]

If my flight into Manila gets in say after 9 or 10 pm or even later, what would be the best way to get into AC? Are there still buses running at night?

And same with return back to Manila. How early do buses run if I end up with a very early (say 8 or 9 am flight departure)?

Or would I really have to stay a night in Manila upon arrival as well as just before departure?Go catch a Jeepney!

[Psychman]

Do not know who has 900 pesos barfine anymore? Even the perimeter bars have the lowest at 1200. But these are for ugly girls. Reasonably good looking are min 1500 at perimeter bars. One bar had 1200, 1500, 1800 tiers.

Another problem with perimeter bars are they open around 12 noon and close by 10 PM. If you go there around 7-8 PM no good looking girls are left. I had barfined one good looking girl before at 2 PM. But after sex couple of times

Do not know what to do. Took her for dinner and suggested bar hopping but she was not into it. Back in the room I got so bored with her I asked her to leave.

This is the pitfall if you barfine early. Unless the chemistry is there hard to keep company for long after the sexual desires are done.

Usually I like to barfine at about 11 PM and one round at night, another round in the morning. If there is chemistry the girl will stay till evening and lunch + some shopping is in order.Det 5 and the bar next door {forget the name for a moment| have stunners for 1200 and 1300. Ugly? Not when me and my wingman were there last month!

[Threadbare]

If my flight into Manila gets in say after 9 or 10 pm or even later, what would be the best way to get into AC? Are there still buses running at night?

And same with return back to Manila. How early do buses run if I end up with a very early (say 8 or 9 am flight departure)?

Or would I really have to stay a night in Manila upon arrival as well as just before departure?Hi, Can't comment on the buses, but most decent hotels will arrange pick up, may need to pay in advance these days. Also look uo Margarita station, they arrange transport on demand too, also hotel if you need. Probably take about 2 hours at that time.

[Exoticspirit]

I don't know how late the bus runs to / from AC but if I were you I'd hole up near Manila Bay Club and get a piece there before going elsewhere.Yes, that would be an option staying in Manila a night before as well as after AC.

[Exoticspirit]

Hi, Can't comment on the buses, but most decent hotels will arrange pick up, may need to pay in advance these days. Also look uo Margarita station, they arrange transport on demand too, also hotel if you need. Probably take about 2 hours at that time.I may just have to do the private route with the hotels. Margarita station is a feasible option both ways. Thanks.

[Sxxxx]

I may just have to do the private route with the hotels. Margarita station is a feasible option both ways. Thanks.Its not Margarita cars you travel in, they get a tiny commission from car company. All good, I have used Margarita before for transport, good. Didn't read previous posts but Margarita can most probably help with hotels too. Margarita also supplies great basic food, in a basic restaurant, pool, bar, small number of freelancers. Its all happening at Margarita.

[LifeIsABeach]

I may just have to do the private route with the hotels. Margarita station is a feasible option both ways. Thanks.Buses do not run after 9:00 pm. Best to get the hotel to pick up and also arrange departure. There area couple of other companies that run their buses to and from AC / Manila.

Check it out. I had hotel send a brand new private car to pick me up.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Exotic victory liner buses run 24/7.

Taxi from airport to victory bus station.

Get on the bus to dau.

Trike to your hotel.

Very easy and much cheaper.

[WhatsUrName]

Well, I am not sure what to say about this video in the link. Other than Damn. Just Damn.

I recently returned from Angeles City, and this documentary was an eye opener. I haven't been to homes of the bar girls, and frankly, I don't want to. There are some things I just don't want to know.

In all honestly, what makes me cry when it comes to the Philippines is what Filipinos do to each other. Take a look at the environment. The Pasig River for example. Manila Bay? The second are these casas that cater to locals and the whole slavery thing. Locking the girls up and all. Who would do that?

There are some things that I just don't want to know. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOTOrKpWKA

[GoodEnough]

Well, I am not sure what to say about this video in the link. Other than Damn. Just Damn.

I recently returned from Angeles City, and this documentary was an eye opener. I haven't been to homes of the bar girls, and frankly, I don't want to. There are some things I just don't want to know.

In all honestly, what makes me cry when it comes to the Philippines is what Filipinos do to each other. Take a look at the environment. The Pasig River for example. Manila Bay? The second are these casas that cater to locals and the whole slavery thing. Locking the girls up and all. Who would do that?

There are some things that I just don't want to know. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOTOrKpWKAThanks for posting the video. I hadn't seen it, but nothing in it surprised me. The sad fact is that, if you travel enough here, you can see similar stages of poverty-induced servitude; not to pimps and bars necessarily, but to Datus, to gangs, politicians, business owners, throughout the country. While the Canadians in the film are doubtless sincere, committed people, their naïveté is somewhat typical of many development workers, who appear to ignore or who perhaps are simply not cognizant of the reality that allows rampant exploitation to fester. The sadder truth is that many of these young women come from large, severely impoverished families, whom they probably support since their parents have convinced them it's their obligation. Angeles City is nothing if not a manifestation of a birth rate that's out of control, an economy that produces virtually nothing the world wants, and a venal ruling class that runs the country for it's own aggrandizement.

Sex trafficking is the new "hot" donor cause, and since it attracts bountiful projects, with concomitantly generous financial support, the government feigns commitment; much as it has to economic growth projects and government transparency and improvement projects in the past. However, until the economic and political systems here become more open to the participation of all or most citizens, the structural problems that allow Angeles to flourish will continue. Plus ça change, plus que la même chose: the more things change, the more they remain the same.

GE

[Key Master]

I may just have to do the private route with the hotels. Margarita station is a feasible option both ways. Thanks.Is this your first time in the Philippines? If it is, I recommend you spend the money on a private pick up. I don't care if you are well traveled or not, but landing in an unfamiliar place at night is not really the time to save money.

[Slippery]

Is this your first time in the Philippines? If it is, I recommend you spend the money on a private pick up. I don't care if you are well traveled or not, but landing in an unfamiliar place at night is not really the time to save money.Excellent advice. If you can afford to fly in, you can afford the extra $5. 00.

[Pete Benetar]

sex trafficking is the new "hot" donor cause, and since it attracts bountiful projects, with concomitantly generous financial support, the government feigns commitment; much as it has to economic growth projects and government transparency and improvement projects in the past. however, until the economic and political systems here become more open to the participation of all or most citizens, the structural problems that allow angeles to flourish will continue. gethe you tube link was non functional for several attempts, though i was able to view the vid at: http://blip.tv/asiatraveller/selling-sex-in-heaven-part-1-5530983

the ngos et al are more than hopelessly naive, imo, (listen to the canadian "doctor") describing punters as virtually the most morally decrepit creatures on earth. perhaps he's a **** or perhaps he's delusional. probably the latter. but one thing is certain. as they ply for greater political influence, more often successfully in their western homeland (read that us doj) , they will lobby and petition to seize the liberties of any guy who wishes to dip his wick in a young lass.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Is this your first time in the Philippines? If it is, I recommend you spend the money on a private pick up. I don't care if you are well traveled or not, but landing in an unfamiliar place at night is not really the time to save money.What is so difficult about asking a cab at the airport to take you to victory bus station, buying a ticket to dau, sitting on a bus, and getting a trike to your hotel?

Pretty sure any hotel pick up from the airport is going to be more than a $5 difference.

[Strikesfun]

It angers the hell out of me when I see a 40 minute movie that took a lot of money to make, had to cover a number of first class airline tickets and that only gave a few hundred pesos to a lot of good people that were set up by a person or a group of persons selling their agenda for obtaining more money. Yes, there are people in need all over the world, USA, South America, China, Russia pick a place but don't say that sex is the problem and it is because of bad men. I am not a long writer but I I felt this is about someones agenda to point out how bad and low life men are I would have just let it past. I am not looking for support, agreement just trying to gave another side to this story that is one sided. Look simple example thing back to being 18 or 20 and getting caught at something it easy to say they made me do it. How about being given the chance to earn money it you had none. Ah this is probably going to get me a flame war but here it goes.

[WhatsUrName]

Thanks for posting the video. I hadn't seen it, but nothing in it surprised me. The sad fact is that, if you travel enough here, you can see similar stages of poverty-induced servitude; not to pimps and bars necessarily, but to Datus, to gangs, politicians, business owners, throughout the country. While the Canadians in the film are doubtless sincere, committed people, their naïveté is somewhat typical of many development workers, who appear to ignore or who perhaps are simply not cognizant of the reality that allows rampant exploitation to fester. The sadder truth is that many of these young women come from large, severely impoverished families, whom they probably support since their parents have convinced them it's their obligation. Angeles City is nothing if not a manifestation of a birth rate that's out of control, an economy that produces virtually nothing the world wants, and a venal ruling class that runs the country for it's own aggrandizement.

Sex trafficking is the new "hot" donor cause, and since it attracts bountiful projects, with concomitantly generous financial support, the government feigns commitment; much as it has to economic growth projects and government transparency and improvement projects in the past. However, until the economic and political systems here become more open to the participation of all or most citizens, the structural problems that allow Angeles to flourish will continue. Plus ça change, plus que la même chose: the more things change, the more they remain the same.

GEThank you for your wisdom on this GE. I'll repost the link before I get up on my soap box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOTOrKpWKA

Mila, the "star" of the video, is a blow row girl.

I've just returned from 4 days in Angeles City. I frequented a few of the bars at the end of Raymond St. I saw this video after I returned from my vacation. Frankly, my visits to the Philippines are fun, but also depressing. The more you get to know the women, the more you realize what a effed up life they lead. There were a lot of problems that led them to the position that they find themselves.

When thinking about Mila, and who has failed her in life :

1) Mila's parents failed her. Her parents could have stopped at perhaps 3 kids. Instead of focusing on downloading TEN babies or the next bottle of whiskey, her parents could have focused 100% of their efforts on getting their 3 kids a world class education and some job skills. This was pitiful.

2) Mila's government failed her. Wow where to start the list of how the government failed Mila? Deep-seated, corrupt ineptness? A joke of an educational system? No safety net whatsoever? Some basic sex education perhaps?

3) Mila's community failed her. Garbage strewn everywhere, crime, pollution, people willing to sell siblings into slavery for a buck, rampant child sex abuse, Insane Traffic (complete lack of driver courtesy)

Wow, who really is the villain here in Mila's situation? Hmmmmmmmm.

So there you have it, folks. Why does Mila have such a effed up life? Because her family has failed her, her community has failed her, and her government has utterly failed her.

So who should we blame?

Why naturally, we should should blame the only POSITIVE influence many of these young women have in life. The evil, wicked foreign Male Tourists.

For it is the evil wicked foreign male tourists who fill their heads with ideas of a better life. Pictures of Disney World. New York City. Family life. The ever elusive responsible father (I'm one). A world where you don't have to watch your back constantly. People throw their trash away. You can rely on people to not fuck you at every turn.

I would like to point out a couple of things:

1) The foreign Male tourist is paying Mila's bills. It is them that are providing cold hard cash for Mila to feed her family of 14. Good grief. These foreign male tourists to Angeles City are providing employment for 10, 000 people (or more) if you also include the hotel workers, restaurants workers, bartenders, trike drivers, bus drivers, money changers, viagra salesmen, etc. The money these men spend puts food on the table for the families of those 10, 000. So we are talking 50, 000 people now? Thank you Mr. Evil, wicked foreign male tourist.

2) GRO Dreams and fantasies of a better life overseas with a foreigner. This is real. A little hope goes a long way when a person is in a situation such as Mila. At some point, though, the despair must set in as they age and realize that emigration isn't going to happen. What other hope do you have when you are in Mila's situation?

3) A state of the art hospital, airport, and at least some supporting infrastructure. STD Clinics and testing. I wonder what the area would have been like had Clark Airbase never been there? Thank you American Taxpayer.

[Red Kilt]

I recently returned from Angeles City, and this documentary was an eye opener. I haven't been to homes of the bar girls, and frankly, I don't want to. There are some things I just don't want to know. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOTOrKpWKACorrect me if I am wrong but isn't this the same video that was made around 5 or more years ago?

It seems to be "re-branded" as being more recent but I saw this quite a long time ago.

The current thinking about "child sexual abuse" has become much more nuanced than the crass stories reported in this documentary.

The examples of Jimmy Savile and, more recently, Rolf Harris, both in UK, and the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses into Child Sexual Abuse (currently underway) highlight this shift.

[TripleX]

Well, I am not sure what to say about this video in the link. Other than Damn. Just Damn.

I recently returned from Angeles City, and this documentary was an eye opener. I haven't been to homes of the bar girls, and frankly, I don't want to. There are some things I just don't want to know.

In all honestly, what makes me cry when it comes to the Philippines is what Filipinos do to each other. Take a look at the environment. The Pasig River for example. Manila Bay? The second are these casas that cater to locals and the whole slavery thing. Locking the girls up and all. Who would do that?

There are some things that I just don't want to know. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOTOrKpWKAPretty fucked up they start off having the girl say her full name and what Province she was from, was that necessary?

[SureMan]

Hi,

I need some advice I will in Tianjin for business I want to travel to Angeles City for about a week, I guess it is easier to fly to Manila, which airline is the best to use. Also will want a return flight to New York, so please advice.

Thanks Sureman

[Sammon]

it angers the hell out of me when i see a 40 minute movie that took a lot of money to make, had to cover a number of first class airline tickets and that only gave a few hundred pesos to a lot of good people that were set up by a person or a group of persons selling their agenda for obtaining more money. yes, there are people in need all over the world, usa, south america, china, russia pick a place but don't say that sex is the problem and it is because of bad men. i am not a long writer but i i felt this is about someones agenda to point out how bad and low life men are i would have just let it past. i am not looking for support, agreement just trying to gave another side to this story that is one sided. look simple example thing back to being 18 or 20 and getting caught at something it easy to say they made me do it. how about being given the chance to earn money it you had none. ah this is probably going to get me a flame war but here it goes.all poor countries and even rich countries have prostitutes. ****? certainly in all countries. living conditions? also in both rich and poor countries. bondage and servitude? yes, in all countries although it is subtle.

behind the curtain in rich countries. transportation of girls for prostitution? yes everywhere. look at latina girls to usa, russian girls to many countries, chinese girls to some countries-list goes on

poor girls have only one thing left to sell to make money if they cannot find a job. that is their body and sexual services.

maybe if the economy, infrastructure, gender equality, job opportunities, less population etc happens these inhumane treatment of girls in casas can be prevented. prostitution will always be there.

even in china in spite of a good economy sex industry is thriving.

[Member #4698]

The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?

[Dflostrife]

but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?I don't post much but here goes I have friends living there and working there. 3 girls and a retire fellow, the girls each have either a 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom apartment, compare to the other girls they hustle for drinks and EWR's but save most of the money for them and send some back home, compare to the other girls most of the time they are thinking about their families condition instead of them self's, so its natural they send all there hard earn income home.

Just my personal opinion.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi,

I need some advice I will in Tianjin for business I want to travel to Angeles City for about a week, I guess it is easier to fly to Manila, which airline is the best to use. Also will want a return flight to New York, so please advice.

Thanks SuremanTo Sureman.

There are many flight from Hong kong or macau direct to Clark, if you want to go to Manila first there are flight from Bejing, the best airline for you is Cathay pacific 2 flight a day from JFK to Hong kong you can connect to Tianjin or Bejing.

Fast Eddie 48

[Jdbkk555]

Comrades,

I managed a quick few days in AC to test the waters there. I must admit up front, I've never been to AC and am a novice at mongering in the PI. I know the ropes in other places, just thought it was time for some diversity of diet.

I have a few questions. I know, I don't like these "how too" questions on the threads I routinely watch, and expect a few responses suggesting to read through 60 pages of reports too figure it out. The power of ISG is lending the experience of others to guide the new.

I understand its called an EWR here. How much should I expect? I suspect its different from one bar to another, just give me the usual range.

What amount is typical for ST? How much for LT?

I did see a report suggesting that its all inclusive in the EWR. Really?

I'm arriving on a late flight, landing at like 11:30. I'm assuming there is plenty of time to go shopping, which are the must do joints?

Thanks Brothers in advance for the guidance.

[Mbsl65]

The problem is extreme poverty. If you see the poverty, you will see the prostitution. They just go hand and hand. I don't like Angeles City. Too much poverty and it depresses me. The documentary was made by CBC (Canadian Public Broadcasting Channel). They are based in Toronto and there is a large Filipino community in Toronto. Whatever their reason to make this program was not true reason of prostitution. They really need to explain why 15 families in Phils own 65 percent of the national wealth, corruption.


The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?

[X Man]

Natty B, I basically agree with you so this isn't meant as confrontational.

Why propaganda? I would think it's just news media doing their job. And sex does sell!

Also, I've seen some nice places and run down flop houses in AC as well as several other places in the Philippines. People are pretty adaptable. Some of these poor ladies from the province have lived with large groups of family in only one or two rooms. Have you ever had a gal who wraps herself around you and seems to want to sleep that way? Good for a guy's ego, but I've come to the conclusion that she grew up sleeping with three or four siblings in the same bed.

As for the vid, I see some exagerration and obvious lapses of logic.

For example:

The locked door which supposedly imprisons the girls in a casa, that is bs. It looks like a typical rental door in the Philippines. They put a padlock on the outside, bars on the windows, that's security. The video shows a raid of a casa, but a picture of a locked door doesn't prove anything. My door is locked whether I'm inside or outside. I wouldn't be surprised if such "prisons" exist, but the video doesn't offer any proof.

They make it sound horrific that two girls have to share a room and one has to exit when sex happens. Has anyone ever asked a roommate or flat-mate to take a hike in order not to diminish the romantic mood?

A ticket to the West is like winning the lottery. Yea, right. I know five or six who are in the west, but only know one person who won more than $10k in the lottery. I also know several who live in the Philippines with a non-Filipino, so the lottery analogy is only accurate if you are considering the numerous $1000 winners. I'm just pulling that number out of my rearend, so I haven't calculated exchange rate nor have I calculated anything. LOL.

Her future is either the "lottery", or casa slavery, or (one more, which I forget). I'm not so sure. If she helped a relative buy a sari sari store or a tricycle, or helped someone get an education, she's earned some kharma, and Filipino families do help each other.

And the most obvious lapse is that if those non. Filipinos suddenly stop enjoying the beach, beer and sex, where do the girls go? How much business drys up? I guess it's hard to present a fair story when it comes to sex. I could understand that they would suffer a backlash if they showed the economic advantages of the biz, but what about the gal who has a large home courtesy of the bf or husband she dumped after the home was built. X.


The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?

[PussyFeelsGood]

I understand its called an EWR here. How much should I expect? I suspect its different from one bar to another, just give me the usual range.

What amount is typical for ST? How much for LT?

I did see a report suggesting that its all inclusive in the EWR. Really?

I'm arriving on a late flight, landing at like 11:30. I'm assuming there is plenty of time to go shopping, which are the must do joints?

Thanks Brothers in advance for the guidance.700-800 for short time on santos or raymond street.

1200-1500 on perimeter.

1800-3000 on fields.

Tip = 100ish for the short time bars.

500ish for long time.

Obviously its performance based and up to you on how much you want to give but those are pretty good numbers for a base to start from.

[Dodgy Fellow]

The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?Your Bangkok girl may be smart with her money, really good at her job, or has fewer relatives to support. The providers in AC may not have the same set of factors to give them a boost.

I would not be surprised if the bars in AC are paying huge bribes to stay in business. Paying the girls more could mean they:

- pass on the added overhead to the punters, driving away customers.

- take a hit in their net profit.

- cut costs elsewhere (like dilute the drinks they serve)

- get rid of a few staff so the remaining providers get paid more

[Western787]

The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?Not sure if you caught this documentary or not (perhaps its even referenced in here) However, its a lot more interesting given its colorful main character, a rather blunt "tells it like it is" older Australian bloke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPEzQX1IW98

[Western787]

the problem is extreme poverty. if you see the poverty, you will see the prostitution. they just go hand and hand. i don't like angeles city. too much poverty and it depresses me. the documentary was made by cbc (canadian public broadcasting channel). they are based in toronto and there is a large filipino community in toronto. whatever their reason to make this program was not true reason of prostitution. they really need to explain why 15 families in phils own 65 percent of the national wealth, corruption.this is about far more than pervs and their **** providers as they should all be locked up imho, or girls being exploited, but the ngo's are now going after fully consentual adult to adult 4p4 worldwide but especially in asia and central america. note the narrator keifer sutherland himself at age 46 is dating a very hot blonde singer 16 years younger. movie stars will always have their young girlfriends, and wealthy guy's their mistresess. as none of this impacts them at all, more proof much of this is based upon an inherent elitist attitude.

[Hargow20]

Personally I prefer picking up SW's. One reason is that if they are a SW have a choice if they wish to work or not. People claim that they are force to work because they have pimp. But the girls still have a choice of turning the pimp into the cops or hopping a bus and leaving that life behind. Either choice is very difficult one, but is still there if the girls choose to do so. A brothel is different because they can be locked up.

[Western787]

Natty B, I basically agree with you so this isn't meant as confrontational.

Why propaganda? I would think it's just news media doing their job. And sex does sell!I will let Natty Bumpo explain what he means, but these documentaries generally have a core theme: evil males in industrialized economies being rotten exploitive sex fiends, aid and abet "trafficking" (now defined as nearly anything) and seek to enslave women from poor countries. While the documentary refers to "local" customers in the casas, its all interwoven with the Fields Ave bars and sex tourism, with a good dose of bashing of the Catholic Church (ok too many kids running around) and the USA Military. You will never see anything in these documentaries about ball busting western "feminists" seeking to turn men into enuchs.

[Western787]

Personally I prefer picking up SW's. One reason is that if they are a SW have a choice if they wish to work or not. People claim that they are force to work because they have pimp. But the girls still have a choice of turning the pimp into the cops or hopping a bus and leaving that life behind. Either choice is very difficult one, but is still there if the girls choose to do so. A brothel is different because they can be locked up.In AC as well as Bangkok and Pattaya SW's generally work without pimps, with (high priced) Singapore and some other places being a bit different. In any case nobody is forcing the women to work in the bars on Fields Ave such as Club Atlantis or most of the other clubs in the vicinity, where in fact some of the hotter girls are making very good money, something these documentaries will never really focus on because it doesn't fit their agenda to bash western men and raise money for the NGO's

[Western787]

Your Bangkok girl may be smart with her money, really good at her job, or has fewer relatives to support. The providers in AC may not have the same set of factors to give them a boost.

I would not be surprised if the bars in AC are paying huge bribes to stay in business. Paying the girls more could mean they:

- pass on the added overhead to the punters, driving away customers.

- take a hit in their net profit.

- cut costs elsewhere (like dilute the drinks they serve)

- get rid of a few staff so the remaining providers get paid moreAC of course at a different stage in its development, but they DO try harder, and this Fields Ave parade put on by the alleged bar "slaves" is but one example. My favorite is the Pony Tails dancers with the Chinese silk umbrellas and the way the dancers move from side to side, which is near the end of the parade. Unfortunately some tourists or even locals too lazy to walk on the other side of the street are at times interfering with the dancers trying to properly carry out the dance sequence required steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd2EdMAz7EE

[Sammon]

In AC as well as Bangkok and Pattaya SW's generally work without pimps, with (high priced) Singapore and some other places being a bit different. In any case nobody is forcing the women to work in the bars on Fields Ave such as Club Atlantis or most of the other clubs in the vicinity, where in fact some of the hotter girls are making very good money, something these documentaries will never really focus on because it doesn't fit their agenda to bash western men and raise money for the NGO'sI personally one beautiful girl with nice boobs and good figure from Leyte who made 60, 000 pesos for her " cherry " + about 40, 000-60, 000 a month for almost a year till she got pregnant by a Korean guy. Now back home in Leyte.

With a child and no money. Now she works for pittance in a Philippino resort mostly used by locals. As everybody knows Phi people do not tip. She is getting older and she says there are many pretty girls working in this resort.

What happened to all the money she made? Good question.

Phi people like to flash their riches when they have money. This is clearly noticed by friends and relatives who want donation for whatever. Girl thinking she can always make money because of her beauty helped her friends and relatives. She also bought a bike,
opened a store, hired a nanny to look after her kid and lived the good life. Pretty soon the money ran out and started contacting all the guys she knew including me for donation. None sent any money including me.

Update on this is she says her child died with some disease (she claims she did not have money for the treatment ). Back in AC but she says with so many young girls to choose from it is very hard to get barfined or get ladydrinks. She works as a waitress in some bar. I guess she is about 27 years old now and age must be showing.

Ideal thing could have been work in AC without getting pregnant for atleast 4 years. Being pretty she gets barfined all the time and some korean guys would take her on vacation for a week or more sometimes paying.

Lots of money. I too took her on vacation although I did not pay her much. I had told her at that time to hide her money and do not show off. Obviously she did not listen.

If she would have worked at least 4-5 years she would have had more than couple of million pesos in her account. She was 18 or maybe younger when she came to AC.

With prettier and younger girls coming to AC no girl has long time to make good money.

I know another girl who is 30 years old with two kids (one Japanese ). She was working in a bar and was making good money. Even a european guy wanted to marry her but she did not want to leave Phi. (Now she regrets her decision)

So generally money making time or getting a sponsor time or finding a foreigner husband time is very limited for these girls.

[X Man]

No offense, but I doubt that these gals don't understand what their shelf life is. They don't need the Sammon to tell them that. They got aunts and older friends who tell them the same thing. Maybe it's more like an alcohol or credit card addiction. It feels good now, but "I know I need to change my behavior, maybe tomorrow".

As for the relatives. Wow, that's complicated. I once went to an out-of-town beach with a gal froma bar. She was good company and we were planning to swim / snorkle. She recommended a place and we only had to stop at her home to pick up her snorkle since the beach was nearby. She had a small concrete house and her mother was next store with her own concrete house. As soon as we arrived there was a conversation with the mother which was translated to me as,"why did you bring him here", or maybe I'm being generous,"why do you bring men here?"

Mom knew where the money was coming from, but humiliated her daughter anyway. The whole mood changed from then on. X.

Snip. Sammon's post

[Exoticspirit]

I see on many videos, each bar has girls stationed just outside their front entrances. I'm sure that they were selected because of certain attributes. I'm wondering if these girls are available and if yes, are they usually at a premium compared to the bar fine rates for the girls inside the bars?

[BrainDrain]

I see on many videos, each bar has girls stationed just outside their front entrances. I'm sure that they were selected because of certain attributes. I'm wondering if these girls are available and if yes, are they usually at a premium compared to the bar fine rates for the girls inside the bars?Every girl is available.

[Night Spotting]

Can any recommend either a website, realtor, or similar that I could look into for a 3 month stay, Sept-Aug. I've looked a few hotels monthly rates, and I think they're just too high. I know most landlords are looking for at least a year, but I would like to rent a modest. 1 bedroom, clean, safe place, with internet and a kitchenette, and relatively near the action for about three months. I just want to drop into AC for for a few months between contracts, enjoy the nightlife a few times a week, and bang out some work online during the day.

Is there anything out there that can accommodate that? Or is my only option to pay 30, 000 php a month to stay in a third-tier hotel?

[OralFanatic]

I see on many videos, each bar has girls stationed just outside their front entrances. I'm sure that they were selected because of certain attributes. I'm wondering if these girls are available and if yes, are they usually at a premium compared to the bar fine rates for the girls inside the bars?I wouldn't count on this to be an absolute certainty. Some of the Promo Girls are out front for a reason be it Red Sweater Week, or perhaps the dreaded 'Legs Permanently Crossed' disease. On my last visit to AC, I dragged 2 promo Girls (separate occasions) into the bar for drinks so I could get a feel for what was on the menu. With both girls, I quickly found pushback and left. I'm sure some of the Promo Girls are willing to do the deed, but why take chances?

One of the girls was a stunner from Samar that promo'the at the small bar to the right of Ponytails (I can't remember the name of the bar). Her name was Jacqueline. I can't remember where the other bar was at due to the alcohol induced stupor I was in for most of my visit.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Just ask the doorgirls, most barfine and if not they will be happy for the compliment.

Nightspotting. Neither are great places but you can get 10k-15k a month at "tren hostel" and "sun moon annex B"

Again they arent luxurious by any means but its a better option than paying 30k for a 3rd tier.

Both located near tiger hotel / mini stop

[Sammon]

Every girl is available.Most of the time. There are some who have a bf, husband who will not go with you. They never disclose these things till you ask to barfine them after buying them drinks.

Also some are " cherry girls " who may or may not go with you unless you promise no sex.

It is always better to put your questions bluntly to them before barfining.

[Cbea20]

She could have continued her career for a few more years. With all that money coming in, she did not invest in birth control. If you'd mentioned it at the time, you'd have found her head full of scare stories regarding the pill. That's my hobbyhorse with filipinas. Their studies or career are truncated by unplanned pregnancy. They leave the baby with their mother, who thought she was finished with childraising. Mama pushes the girl out the door to earn money any way she can.

You mention that she started a store. That's a sign of planning for the future. I suppose it was a sari-sari, managed by mama, who had no business skills.


I personally one beautiful girl with nice boobs and good figure from Leyte who made 60, 000 pesos for her " cherry " + about 40, 000-60, 000 a month for almost a year till she got pregnant by a Korean guy. Now back home in Leyte.

With a child and no money. Now she works for pittance in a Philippino resort mostly used by locals. As everybody knows Phi people do not tip. She is getting older and she says there are many pretty girls working in this resort.

What happened to all the money she made? Good question.

Phi people like to flash their riches when they have money. This is clearly noticed by friends and relatives who want donation for whatever. Girl thinking she can always make money because of her beauty helped her friends and relatives. She also bought a bike,

Opened a store, hired a nanny to look after her kid and lived the good life. Pretty soon the money ran out and started contacting all the guys she knew including me for donation. None sent any money including me.

Update on this is she says her child died with some disease (she claims she did not have money for the treatment ). Back in AC but she says with so many young girls to choose from it is very hard to get barfined or get ladydrinks. She works as a waitress in some bar. I guess she is about 27 years old now and age must be showing.

Ideal thing could have been work in AC without getting pregnant for atleast 4 years. Being pretty she gets barfined all the time and some korean guys would take her on vacation for a week or more sometimes paying.

Lots of money. I too took her on vacation although I did not pay her much. I had told her at that time to hide her money and do not show off. Obviously she did not listen.

If she would have worked at least 4-5 years she would have had more than couple of million pesos in her account. She was 18 or maybe younger when she came to AC.

With prettier and younger girls coming to AC no girl has long time to make good money.

I know another girl who is 30 years old with two kids (one Japanese ). She was working in a bar and was making good money. Even a european guy wanted to marry her but she did not want to leave Phi. (Now she regrets her decision)

So generally money making time or getting a sponsor time or finding a foreigner husband time is very limited for these girls.

[Econo Tech]

I see on many videos, each bar has girls stationed just outside their front entrances. I'm sure that they were selected because of certain attributes. I'm wondering if these girls are available and if yes, are they usually at a premium compared to the bar fine rates for the girls inside the bars?You haven't been to PH I guess.

The only ones who are worth a premium are the spot light dancers. And no sir, I am not keen on the Spotlights and their 'my shit don't stink' attitudes. And no do I fancy Cherries.


Can any recommend either a website, realtor, or similar that I could look into for a 3 month stay, Sept-Aug. I've looked a few hotels monthly rates, and I think they're just too high. I know most landlords are looking for at least a year, but I would like to rent a modest. 1 bedroom, clean, safe place, with internet and a kitchenette, and relatively near the action for about three months. I just want to drop into AC for for a few months between contracts, enjoy the nightlife a few times a week, and bang out some work online during the day.

Is there anything out there that can accommodate that? Or is my only option to pay 30, 000 php a month to stay in a third-tier hotel?Check the Blue Book. Bluebook-ph. Com I think. You can find some realtors there.


Phi people like to flash their riches when they have money. This is clearly noticed by friends and relatives who want donation for whatever. Girl thinking she can always make money because of her beauty helped her friends and relatives. She also bought a bike,

Opened a store, hired a nanny to look after her kid and lived the good life. Pretty soon the money ran out and started contacting all the guys she knew including me for donation. None sent any money including me.I also personally "KNEW" a girl, a hot dancer, who worked in Singapore and Japan as well.

Well, recently she was not communicating much and after a while, it was silence. Since I knew her sister, I asked the sister and then I found out that she died, possibly due to some "witch craft" she lived in CDO.

Then I get the shocker. Though she didn't have a permenant job, nor regular BFs, and her Singapore contracts were 6 months on. 1 year off. Her kids were in a Private School, and the arrears had run into more than 40, 000 peso (plus no burial / insurance for the kids) and now the sister + parents are scrambling to get the kids to a govt school.

Again, that she had the good and wonderful intention to place her kids in a Private school, though she had an unstable career and unstable income. And didn't bother to get insurance for herself so her untimely death has left all in more tears. Only in Filipinas!

PS: for the last case, I did donate some. But made it clear to the family I will not be sponsor for life for the kids, as trust me on this. Until recently, in true PH style, the girl kept hiding the fact that she had kids. Even though by then, we had spent a week in Boracay, a week in Manila. Apart from the regular meet ups when she was in Singapore. So was her sister, who was very careful to control the info on the kids.

[WhatsUrName]

I see on many videos, each bar has girls stationed just outside their front entrances. I'm sure that they were selected because of certain attributes. I'm wondering if these girls are available and if yes, are they usually at a premium compared to the bar fine rates for the girls inside the bars?This would make a decent launching point for my AC Field Report.

On my most recent trip to AC, my favorite GRO from the entire trip was one of the "Hello" ladies standing out in front of the Go-go bars. In this case, it was the Viking Bar. I was walking down Fields and found this drop dead beautiful woman out in front. She was gorgeous and so hot in a tight black dress. I passed her and saw her face, walked another 30 feet east before her face truly registered in my brain. I turned around and walked back and saw her again. OMG. Her face and hair and hair were just. Perfect. She was beautiful. I approached her, smiled in my best smile and introduced myself. I asked if she was available to barfine and she smiled back and said yes. So we went inside and I asked her to join me for a drink. She was "the one" for tonight. She seemed to like me too. We didn't hang around the bar too long. She enjoyed her lady drink, but it was time to go.

I bar fined her for the next night as well, for a total of two consecutive days. We had a very nice girlfriend experience. She was a very sweet young lady. On both nights (around 9PM) , I first took her to back to my hotel to let her change out of her high heels and slutwear into one of my long Costco T shirts (which she wore as a dress) and flip-flops. We then went to Margarita Station and had dinner and drinks. It was similar to a date back home here in the US, but a LOT cheaper and a lot less BS. She was very happy to just enjoy the moment and so was I. Dinner for two plus drinks for about $20. 00? The bar fine was 2000 PHP (about $50 USD, the same as the other GROs at her bar). We had a great time both in bed and out of bed.

This was my third trip to AC in a year. I like the place, but it did take a little experience to figure out what works best for me. This is strictly my own MO, but I don't like to spend a lot of time inside the Go-Go bars. I go in, have a seat, order my SML. If I don't see anything that really catches my eye, then I'll leave and go to the next one.

I love going to Phillies, and went there daily if not twice or thrice daily.

I really enjoyed the Raymond St. BJ bars, and spent a solid chunk of my AC business there. I stayed at the rear annex of the Orchid Inn Resort, which is steps away from the end of Raymond St. I probably took about 7 women from Raymond St, most of them from the bar that is the second from the end on the side of that little church. The mommy at that particular bar is a real hoot, especially if you go late and she's a little smashed. 700 Php for 2 hours and your choice of upwards of 25 women located 150 feet your hotel room door.

The back annex of the Orchid Inn Resort, coupled with the Raymond St bars is my choice for some damn fine value sight seeing in AC. And yes the "Hello" girls rock too. YMMV

[Smoky Jack]

Won't post too much details but if you are the other board you might be able to see the whole report. This board is too full of trolls now. But for the legit bros who are still on here, let me say that my trip to AC was a real eye-opener. If you like GFE, the pinays are the true experts at it. And AC is chock full of sweet, gorgeous girls. One thing I noticed is that almost all the girls have the softest skin imaginable. The prices for those of you who have been mongering in Europe / North America are just insanely low. People complain about 3000 peso BFs. We are talking a whole night of a hot girl with multiples for $75 USD. And many great girls are only 1500-2000 pesos. They all speak English too. As for hotels, if you can swing it, you can get a room at the Angeles Beach Club hotel for about $150 / night. It was voted one of the top "over the top" hotels by Agoda members and the service is truly excellent. If you want to splurge and spend 200 / night, you can get a room with a bar and stripper pole. I did not do the multiple girls thing this time but I will when I go back. Many of the girls are open to this. The beers and food are really cheap in AC. You have to be smart but I never once felt like I was in danger in AC.

The great thing about being at the ABC is that the girls love staying there and will basically stay until you kick them out. Or you can keep 'them for another day.

By far the best mongering experience I have ever had. The FKKs seem so cold by comparison.

[OralFanatic]

Check the Blue Book. Bluebook-ph. Com I think. You can find some realtors there.ET, that blue-bookph is the best source for multi-month stays I have seen to date; thanks for the tip.

[Exoticspirit]

This is strictly my own MO, but I don't like to spend a lot of time inside the Go-Go bars. I go in, have a seat, order my SML. If I don't see anything that really catches my eye, then I'll leave and go to the next one.If you don't see anything you like after a few bars, you would have had quite a few beers already! I wouldn't be able to consume so many in such a short time period in case I didn't see anybody I liked. I probably would make a quick scan upon entering a bar and if it's for sure that nobody caught my eye, I would leave right away. I would stay for a drink only if there was potential. Otherwise my bladder wouldn't be able to hold so many!

[Sxxxx]

Does anyone know what happened to McDon?

Haven't seen a post from him for months.

[Skippy222]

Hey everybody,

I'll be headed to Angeles City for the latter half of July. I was wondering if anyone could give me some private message (PM) tips or contacts for getting anal, and getting two Filipino girls for a bisexual threesome while I'm there. In addition I would also appreciate any tips or contacts for good bars and pinays to see while I'm there. Any help would be much appreciated. I'll also be writing a full trip report with details on the forum.

Thanks,

Skippy222

[Sky Ryder]

It's been a few months since I enjoyed the male playground that is AC. After a "drive you crazy" van trip from Manila, checked into the hotel about 8, and went out in search of something to take off the edge. I wasn't sure what to expect, given some of the less than glowing reports recently. I was very pleasantly surprised by both the sheer numbers of ladies available as well as the quality of the selection. First time I went into TAO, and won't go back anytime soon. The air con wasn't working and the waitress wouldn't shut up about me choosing a girl. I tried to politely tell her I wanted some time to just drink a beer and look at the ladies, but she kept pushing, so I stood up and told her she needed to learn when to just serve the drinks and shut up. Wouldn't have mattered much, didn't see anything worthy of the higher EWR fees.

Lost in Asia had a lot or really cute girls, but I wanted to look at a few places before making a choice. Tried to find my favorite mommie in Carnival, but she wasn't working last night. Stopped by Champagne and as usual had a great time with the waitresses. Chose a relative newcomer from the dancers, cute smile and world class bum! The bar fine there is 1900, and this girl was a lot cuter off the stage than on. Had a drink at High Society, back to the room. She was not a "rocked my world" experience, but nice and took off the edge. I thought she might be a keeper, but decided to let her go early, as I hadn't gotten a lot of sleep for a couple of days.

Looking forward to today's adventure, planning to head up Perimeter Road in the afternoon to see what is available.

[BrainDrain]

Hey everybody,

I'll be headed to Angeles City for the latter half of July. I was wondering if anyone could give me some private message (PM) tips or contacts for getting anal, and getting two Filipino girls for a bisexual threesome while I'm there. In addition I would also appreciate any tips or contacts for good bars and pinays to see while I'm there. Any help would be much appreciated. I'll also be writing a full trip report with details on the forum.

Thanks,

Skippy222You've been a member for a few years now. How about contributing?

[Skippy222]

You've been a member for a few years now. How about contributing?Hey BrainDrain,

I think you make a fair criticism of me. I'm from the USA and I've done a little bit of mongering and I haven't really contributed back-although I haven't asked for much advice before either. However, I've never gone mongering internationally and so I had nothing to contribute before, so I would appreciate some help, and am going to contribute in the future.

[WestCoast1]

Hey everybody,

I'll be headed to Angeles City for the latter half of July. I was wondering if anyone could give me some private message (PM) tips or contacts for getting anal, and getting two Filipino girls for a bisexual threesome while I'm there. In addition I would also appreciate any tips or contacts for good bars and pinays to see while I'm there. Any help would be much appreciated. I'll also be writing a full trip report with details on the forum.

Skippy222Normally we just say no to newbs asking questions. But, he has asked for response in PM, so I will do so.

Skippy. 2 posts in 2. 5 years here on the board, both asking questions. Why haven't you posted an informative report in all that time?

WC

[Osuul]

How is AC end of July. I still have vacction to burn but I fear typhoons might interrupt the fun and the weather would be unbearable

[Irony Monger]

How is AC end of July. I still have vacction to burn but I fear typhoons might interrupt the fun and the weather would be unbearableIt's a crap shoot. Every time I have been to PI during the rainy season it is a mix of sunshine and buckets of rain dropping from the sky. I was in AC during a typhoon before, and it was actually one of my most memorable trips, even with some minor flooding on the street. Plus the next day the streets were cleaner than I had ever seen them and the "AC smell" was much less noticable. I don't see why people worry so much about the rain. Who goes to AC for the street views and sunshine anyway? Find a bar, grab a beer, get a girl, go to your room, same as ever. Only difference is you pack an umbrella.

[MangoBob68]

Hello gentlemen, I usually have posted in Cebu site and I am a paying member. But I confess I am a small potato compared to the guys who are the foundation of this site.

To the point. I have been to Pattaya and AC. Long time ago. I am returning to PI this year. Anyway. I thought of returning to Thailand so I was reading some Pattaya reports. Bring back long ago memories. Anyway SL (I'd) was talking about paying 800 baht to 1600 baht for hotel room . Then we turn to the cost of pleasure!

Bar fines from 700 to 1000 baht + girls for short time 2000 and over night 4000. Then talked about threesome. 3600 baht. His experiences were great! I was ready to head there before going to PI.

THEN I went to my trusty google money calculator and OMG! Pay two girls for 90 minutes = $130 USD! To pay $32. 62 for the bar fine plus still pay the girl $65. 00 for short time or a girl who is age 20 a perfect 10! $130. 00 for the night!

Maybe all of you think I am a cheap Charlie BUT Thank God for AC and manila and Cebu where the cost is mostly HALF of that now costing in Pattaya.

I am not going to debate which girls are better. Thai or Fililipina. But when the lights are out and you having a good time and you get off and fall back with a smile on your face. You can say to yourself a hole is a hole is a hole and count the money you saved by being in AC so you can go out and do it all over again while if you still in Thailand you are probably going to the ATM to get more money.

[YG365]

Hello gentlemen, I usually have posted in Cebu site and I am a paying member. But I confess I am a small potato compared to the guys who are the foundation of this site...No question, Angeles is better! I mean, I had fun in Pattaya but it was a really different experience. I actually want to go back, even though Thailand is more expensive and all the girls I've been with, weren't GFE.

Angeles is dope because of the pricing, so don't mess it up noobies and the GFE. For me, the flights are also cheaper to the Philippines then to Thailand.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Both cost as much as you want them to.

Pattaya will be costlier but you don't have to go around payng 4000 baht.

I did a month in Pattaya for under 1300 us, I got a girl 14 days and didn't stay in hotels I rented an apartment for a month.

There are freelancers everywhere that you can get for 1000 baht, it takes a little time, effort, and patience but you can find girls just as good as the 4k gogo girls for a quarter the price.

[Pensomaru]

So I have been a lurker for a while and will finally get to visit AC for myself this coming weekend (June 14th. 18th). I was supposed to be traveling with a wingman but turns out this will be a solo tirp. I am sure it will not be a big deal as I can always find myself an 'activities partner' for the evening, but I was wondering if anyone was going to be in town and would be interested in meeting up for a beer? PM me if you are. If nothing else I will have my first report once I am finished.

[Slippery]

So I have been a lurker for a while and will finally get to visit AC for myself this coming weekend (June 14th. 18th). I was supposed to be traveling with a wingman but turns out this will be a solo tirp. I am sure it will not be a big deal as I can always find myself an 'activities partner' for the evening, but I was wondering if anyone was going to be in town and would be interested in meeting up for a beer? PM me if you are. If nothing else I will have my first report once I am finished.You'll do fine there. Just stay on Fields at night. Its totally set up for a first timer.

[White Whale]

So I have been a lurker for a while and will finally get to visit AC for myself this coming weekend (June 14th. 18th). I was supposed to be traveling with a wingman but turns out this will be a solo tirp. I am sure it will not be a big deal as I can always find myself an 'activities partner' for the evening, but I was wondering if anyone was going to be in town and would be interested in meeting up for a beer? PM me if you are. If nothing else I will have my first report once I am finished.My first virgin trip was solo. You will be fine. Dangers are overspending rampage and (together with) falling in love the very first bar maiden you meet.

[MangoBob68]

Both cost as much as you want them to.

Pattaya will be costlier but you don't have to go around payng 4000 baht.

I did a month in Pattaya for under 1300 us, I got a girl 14 days and didn't stay in hotels I rented an apartment for a month.

There are freelancers everywhere that you can get for 1000 baht, it takes a little time, effort, and patience but you can find girls just as good as the 4k gogo girls for a quarter the price.Mr. PFG makes a good point. When I was there, I stuck to the outdoor beer bars to hook up plus I preferred to find the new arrival. Who was not "over worked! /has that lazy attitude. The outdoor beer bar fines are lower than the indoor bars. Plus I think you get a better GF feeling.

Yes,"contracting" a girl for one week or more is a good way to get discounted pricing. I had one beer bar girl for one week. I "contracted her for 5 days with two day / night guaranteed. Trial period. Hahahahahaha at the end of 5 days she said she would stay with me without charge for 2 more days. Good things can happen if you treat the girl right.

I know most guys want to " try" as many girls as they can. We all have our differences.

Not only do you save money but you save the time of hunting and taking the chance of being disappointed + cut down on the possibility of sexual disease. Lets face it. The more woman you have. You increase the chances.

But you can spice up the experience. We all have our criteria in what we are looking for. One thing I want before I accept the girl is that she is ok with threesome. During those 7 nights. Had threesome two times- I just made sure she knew she was always #1 (for that week). To my surprise she was the one who wanted anal sex. I was happy to oblige her anyway I could.

True. There are free lancers and there is walking street. Just be wise. Some guys will tell you the woman on walking street are the left overs. If they were any good they would be working in the clubs. Well, many are there just to earn some need money in the short term. One thing I liked about walking street woman besides the price was you get what you see without all the make up bar lights.

For me. I just save the airfare to spend in the PI.

On the other side. There was this one guy in AC club who flashed he had $2000 trying to catch the fishes. I think he ended up being eaten by sharks! (two legged).

[Smoky Jack]

So I have been a lurker for a while and will finally get to visit AC for myself this coming weekend (June 14th. 18th). I was supposed to be traveling with a wingman but turns out this will be a solo tirp. I am sure it will not be a big deal as I can always find myself an 'activities partner' for the evening, but I was wondering if anyone was going to be in town and would be interested in meeting up for a beer? PM me if you are. If nothing else I will have my first report once I am finished.I just went alone. Your only problem is that you are staying too short of a time. You will regret this. It does add some fun to hook up with some other mongers. Try here or on other boards.

[Smoky Jack]

Normally we just say no to newbs asking questions. But, he has asked for response in PM, so I will do so.

Skippy. 2 posts in 2. 5 years here on the board, both asking questions. Why haven't you posted an informative report in all that time?

WCCareful, there are some serious trolls on here.

[Pensomaru]

I just went alone. Your only problem is that you are staying too short of a time. You will regret this. It does add some fun to hook up with some other mongers. Try here or on other boards.I wish I could stay longer but this is all it could be. Better than nothing I figure. Have to be over in Manila just added this on beforehand as a little bonus.


My first virgin trip was solo. You will be fine. Dangers are overspending rampage and (together with) falling in love the very first bar maiden you meet.While this will be my first trip to Angeles it won't be my first time in the game. I got all the falling for bar girls out of my system already.

Thanks for the info though!

[Sky Ryder]

A follow up on the rest of the four days in AC. Went to Girls Gen two the second afternoon, found a cutie and asked if she was up for a threesome, but I wanted her to choose. She said yes, and showed me the girl she wanted. I agreed, it would have been my choice as well. She them asked me if I could wait one day, as she wanted to make sure Auntie Flow was gone. I agreed and said I would be back tomorrow. I went back about 4 the next day and her girlfriend gave me the message that she couldn't turn down a EWR from a guy that had been in the day before. She was afraid I wouldn't show up. I guess I could have made a deposit, and her friend wanted to "make it up to me", but I passed. Went to Champagne, wanted one of the waitresses who really hot, but she had some guy buying her a lot of drinks. As it turned out I could of waited an hour until he left, but I opted for a cute little fireball, that promised unfettered access to any entrance I chose. And she delivered. Not often a girl ask for it harder and deeper, but this one did and when I thought I was done, she worked some tongue magic to get the "up and running again". I let her stay the night.

Next night went to the "who let the dogs out" party that happens on Sunday. I always have a good time at these, saw a waitress from Tropix I wanted and she said she could only do BJ, but was up for that. I told her that her cute bum was a fine substitute, but I couldn't close the deal. Drinks with a couple of cute dancers from Club Asia, but they were only "barhopping" girls. Bummer.

Went back to Champagne, but the hottie was gone, picked out another one from the line up that did a nice job, but I wasn't interested in a LT, she seemed disappointed I ask her to leave.

Monday was a strange day, went to SM to see Star Trek on iMax 3D, kind of fun if you grew up with that franchise.

Hit three or four of the smaller bars, either didn't find anything, or hit on a cherry girl (she was upset I wouldn't but a drink) , had a mommie I really wanted say she couldn't tonight, because she was the only mommie working, or the mens was running rampant. Maybe it was just Monday and no one was interested. Wound up going to BJ row and getting all I needed for the sum of 700p. Goodness comes in many packages.

As an aside, on Sunday evening I was walking down the street and a crew was filming the girls in front of Cambodia. I asked the sound man who they were filming for and he said they were from Holland. I asked him if the Dutch gov't was funding the project and he laughed and said no. I asked him for the name of the organization that they were working for and he walked away. A local AC official or so he said asked what was my problem, I told him I didn't have a problem, just interested in who was sponsoring the film crew. He wanted to know why I was so confrontational, and I said that I didn't think asking a question fit into that category. I did manage to disrupt the filming by walking through their shot with my back to the camera, while this guy was talking to me. The official told me they had a permit to film and he was "assisting" them and I should just move on. I never raised my voice or made any big gestures, but I told the film crew I thought it was interesting that they had come all the way to the Philippines to do something that was not allowed in their country. Cameras are not permitted in the red light district in Amsterdam or any red light district in Holland and the policy is enforced. Mostly by the girls if they see it going on.

They had a look of surprise when I said this and packed up and seemed to be leaving or at least to another location. I did get it out of them that it was an NGO, but couldn't get a name. I guess we will see what comes next!

[BionicMan]

A follow up on the rest of the four days in AC.

I told the film crew I thought it was interesting that they had come all the way to the Philippines to do something that was not allowed in their country. Cameras are not permitted in the red light district in Amsterdam or any red light district in Holland and the policy is enforced. Mostly by the girls if they see it going on. They had a look of surprise when I said this and packed up and seemed to be leaving or at least to another location. I did get it out of them that it was an NGO, but couldn't get a name. I guess we will see what comes next!Well said and you caught them with the hands in the jar

[Sxxxx]

Well said and you caught them with the hands in the jarAnd they most probably caught SkyRider on camera, who will feature in the eventual film too LOL.

No doubt official was well paid to keep anyone objecting like SR out of the way.

[Exoticspirit]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?

[Pensomaru]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?I'm no expert but I see guys walking all over with their girls. I think most of them are fine to walk back to your place. Even from the end of fields to ABC is just a short walk.

[FreebieFan]

as an aside, on sunday evening i was walking down the street and a crew was filming the girls in front of cambodia. i asked the sound man who they were filming for and he said they were from holland. i asked him if the dutch gov't was funding the project and he laughed and said no. i asked him for the name of the organization that they were working for and he walked away. a local ac official or so he said asked what was my problem, i told him i didn't have a problem, just interested in who was sponsoring the film crew. the official told me they had a permit to film and he was "assisting" them. , but i told the film crew i thought it was interesting that they had come all the way to the philippines to do something that was not allowed in their country. cameras are not permitted in the red light district in amsterdam or any red light district in holland and the policy is enforced. mostly by the girls if they see it going on.

they had a look of surprise when i said this and packed up and seemed to be leaving or at least to another location. i did get it out of them that it was an ngo, but couldn't get a name. t!theres some conjecture on other philippines boards that its an ijm documentary thats being produced, as ijm has a dutch base.

ijm for those who are unaware if this wonderful ngo that wants to help all your favourite ladies by teaching them knitting or caribou testing. anything but working in a bar. they regularly plants **** girls and are the group that behinds lots of the ongoing ac raids.

i most certainly would have also asked them what it was they were filming and why they had to film men enjoying their evening out.

the good christian folk in the south of the us are the prime funders of this oh so fabulous organsiation.

[Hutsori]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?Angeles bar girls are long accustomed to being seated in palaguin sedan chairs carried by teams of aged punters who squandered away their pensions and now subsist as slaves. The loveliest of these ST princesses ride palaguins adorned with jewels, gold, and elephant tusk ivory.

M8, really?

Some girls will push to see how far you'll bend. By caving you'll soon see the demands cascade. The only insisting that you should accept is her demand to ride you again.

At approx. 200m ABC may be a bit far to Margarita Station (MS) for some, so a jeep or trike is reasonable if you feel so. MS to all the sights in the hood is a short walk. Plus she can make you wait as she stops again and again to chat with her friends she meets along the way.

[Pensomaru]

Some girls will push to see how far you'll bend. By caving you'll soon see the demands cascade. The only insisting that you should accept is her demand to ride you again.This is pretty solid advice for all you interactions with the girls. You pay = you call the shots. Of course be respectful and treat them good but walking down the street is fine.

[Ekspat]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?Fields to Devera is easily walking distance. 5 mins at most and BTW. Pony Tails is just next door.

Enjoy!

[Red Kilt]

Angeles bar girls are long accustomed to being seated in palaguin sedan chairs carried by teams of aged punters who squandered away their pensions and now subsist as slaves. The loveliest of these ST princesses ride palaguins adorned with jewels, gold, and elephant tusk ivory.I guess you meant palanquin chairs H but that doesn't detract from your marvellously sarcastic reference to the demands of BGs, no matter what status in life that they have

[Hutsori]

I guess you meant palanquin chairs H but that doesn't detract from your marvellously sarcastic reference to the demands of BGs, no matter what status in life that they haveThanks, m8. Hey! Didn't you tell me the other day your many years here have dulled your brain? Not too much it appears. Good catch.

[Sky Ryder]

And they most probably caught SkyRider on camera, who will feature in the eventual film too LOL.

No doubt official was well paid to keep anyone objecting like SR out of the way.Well anything is possible, but I was pretty careful to keep my back to the camera the whole time I was talking to them and was standing behind the cameraman most of the time as well. If they did, I doubt they would air the take, since all I did was ask questions about thier I'd.

[Sxxxx]

Well anything is possible, but I was pretty careful to keep my back to the camera the whole time I was talking to them and was standing behind the cameraman most of the time as well. If they did, I doubt they would air the take, since all I did was ask questions about thier I'd.If they only had one camera yes, but I have observed, nowadays they have two camera men to get just that kind of action, that is, someone approaching number one camera man with a complaint or whatever, whilst number two cameraman is filming the complaint, approach whatever. Drama they are all about capturing drama, which sells, and what better than someone intervening like yourself stepping up to camera man number one. Ok, so that didn't happen, then in that case, they are not that professional. If I get to see you in the documentary, I will pm you and let you know, LOL.

[X Man]

I think palaguin chairs are the plastic versions that are made in China, post Mao.

Now, let me go to the Internet dictionaries to find out how to pronounce palanquin. Hutsori, for an old guy you can be pretty funny. Loved the stuck condom on your back story. Life is funny that way. I'm guessing you don't remember what happend the day before, nor the day after. BUt that condom on the back story will live forever. I'm guess it has already been filed away in the "funny" files of the the EN ES CEE and SHE I A (sorry for the cryptic writing, but I don't want to invite unwanted attention from Mr. Snow then 's friends).


I guess you meant palanquin chairs H but that doesn't detract from your marvellously sarcastic reference to the demands of BGs, no matter what status in life that they have

[Sammon]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?Devera ia walking distance. But if you stay anywhere outside that better take trike for your safety. Unlike Manila EDSA girls AC girls are willing to walk with you even to the mall or the Casino. EDSA girls are so spoiled they wanted taxi to go to Heritage where I was staying.

[Pensomaru]

So I arrived late in Clark, probably about 2am. I had arranged transportation with the hotel and that worked smoothly. I didn't know if it would be hard to find a taxi or something since it was late and since it's my first time here I didn't want to have a hassle. I'm happy I did this because there where a lot of people waiting around outside and it was raining.

Got to my hotel and checked in. I'm staying at Orchard Inn Resort and the rooms are pretty basic. They are old and it shows. I had to kill a cockroach and when I went for a shower the water didn't get very hot. I gave them a pass on the water cause it's so late and probably nobody using? I dunno. Wasn't cold just not hot, only warm.

After my shower it's time to eat and go see what's what with the late nightlife. Ate at Hangout and the food was good. Nothing fancy just some American foods and local dishes. They also have shisha and that was the real reason I stopped. Sat in the front to watch people walk by and smoked, ate, and drank. Ended up staying too long there talking to the waitress. She was cute and friendly but I didn't want to take her was more interested to walk around a bit and then pick a girl for ST before bed.

So now it was around 4:30 and most places are closed. I checked out Dollhouse and Voodoo (I think that was the name) both 24 hours and right on fields. Nothing catching my eye. All the girls are very tired looking and nobody is showing any signs of life. At dollhouse a guy has like three or four girls sitting with him and he picks up the little ticket of balls and tosses it on the stage. The girls should go crazy and try to pick up the balls for a small reward but instead the girls don't even react. One girl finally picks up all the balls and sets them off to the side. It's a no go for me. I need a girl with a good vibe or good energetic mood. I leave and walk back to the hotel. I'm drunk and tired anyways I figure I'll just start when I wake up.

Luckily for me that isn't how it had to work. As I walked down the road to my hotel (one of the side streets going off fields) there are a few small bars with a couple chicks hanging out. One calls out and runs over when I stop to talk. She is ok. Not as good as the girls in the clubs but makes up for it with energy. She latches on to me and says 700p my room. I confirm its BJ and FS and pay at the bar. We go up to my rooms (these bars are right outside because I am in the back annex of the hotel) she showers we get to business. Still very enthusiastic. I have her start on top (I'm lazy from travel LOL) then spin her around to reverse cowgirl. Now I have my energy back and we hit a few more positions before we finish with her bent over the desk looking into the mirror. She washes up, we chat for a minute and then I tell her I'm tired. She gets dressed and goes. I get ready for bed myself then get a call from the hotel informing me that my female guest is leaving. Sweet feature!

[Llantarnam]

I'll be staying at the Devera in AC which is in the ABC / Margarita Station vicinity. I don't mind walking all over the place but question is, how far are the girls willing to walk with me, especially the ones from the Fields and blow row bars? Would many of them insist on taking trikes right away?I was staying at ABC in March and never a problem for the girls to walk. Even from Raymond BJ bars was ok.

[BrainDrain]

Luckily for me that isn't how it had to work. As I walked down the road to my hotel (one of the side streets going off fields) there are a few small bars with a couple chicks hanging out. One calls out and runs over when I stop to talk.Welcome to AC. It's a service business in this town. Nobody leaves unhappy and every man wins a prize.

[WestCoast1]

We go up to my rooms (these bars are right outside because I am in the back annex of the hotel) she showers we get to business. Still very enthusiastic. I have her start on top (I'm lazy from travel LOL) then spin her around to reverse cowgirl. Now I have my energy back and we hit a few more positions before we finish with her bent over the desk looking into the mirror. She washes up, we chat for a minute and then I tell her I'm tired. She gets dressed and goes. I get ready for bed myself then get a call from the hotel informing me that my female guest is leaving. Sweet feature!Great descriptive rookie post Pen. Welcome to the club. Here's looking forward to more.

[Hutsori]

Hutsori, for an old guy you can be pretty funny.My cost of my birthdays candles haven't yet exceeded the cost of the cake. Never would have guessed 38 is old 'round here.

[X Man]

It seems you've discovered the Raymond Ave short time bars. Well done.

Hey, think of the energy you save by taking warm showers. Do the planet a favor. X.


SNIP.

Luckily for me that isn't how it had to work. As I walked down the road to my hotel (one of the side streets going off fields) there are a few small bars with a couple chicks hanging out. One calls out and runs over when I stop to talk. She is ok. Not as good as the girls in the clubs but makes up for it with energy. She latches on to me and says 700p SNIP

[Hutsori]

If they only had one camera yes, but I have observed, nowadays they have two camera men to get just that kind of action, that is, someone approaching number one camera man with a complaint or whatever, whilst number two cameraman is filming the complaint, approach whatever.Narrator: "We are suddenly approached by an aggressive sex tourist demanding to know the purpose of our filming and to see ID's. It's staggering to see first-hand how brazen they are, even when we're accompanied by a government official. Certainly they are much more forceful with the young girls they exploit for their carnal pleasures. Though unsettling to us, we know that our work, made possible through your generous contributions, are frightening Western sex tourists and paedophiles. They're scared, and with your continued support we can run them out of Angeles City. And out of the Philippines."

[Sxxxx]

Narrator: "We are suddenly approached by an aggressive sex tourist demanding to know the purpose of our filming and to see ID's. It's staggering to see first-hand how brazen they are, even when we're accompanied by a government official. Certainly they are much more forceful with the young girls they exploit for their carnal pleasures. Though unsettling to us, we know that our work, made possible through your generous contributions, are frightening Western sex tourists and paedophiles. They're scared, and with your continued support we can run them out of Angeles City. And out of the Philippines."Well done, especially when based on SkyRider's original post No. 12769.

Your narration is superlative and not too far from reality either, LOL. Perhaps yourself, SkyRider and myself, could produce a really dramatic AC piece. Proceeds would pay for a bar fine or two, don't you reckon? I still think Sky might end up in the final product, and for sure I will pm him if this happens.

[Llantarnam]

cost of my birthdays candles haven't yet exceeded the cost of the cake. Never would have guessed 38 is old 'round here.When you get to my age you struggle to find a cake big enough to accommodate all the candles!

[Feanor]

I also saw that film crew. I was sorta trapped in one of the bars while they were filming. Did not want to be filmed at all.

I stayed at the Pacific Breeze which has a similar problem with the hot water as the guy that stayed at the Orchid Inn, it only came out as lukewarm never hot.

This time I made an effort to stop by a number of bars (Still a fairly small number for my short stay). There always seemed that there were something I liked but the only place where I found one that had the "Wow" factor was at the Carousel (I did EWR her and she was good too). I did not go into some of the larger bars. I did stop by Las Vegas and the mama there pointed out the different tiers. I liked some of the lower tier girls over the 3k girl.

Lastly, most of the girls seemed rather liberal about using the mini bar. One seemed to have taken a couple of candy bars. Another tried to take some stuff from the bathroom. I did not notice the candy bar until notified through housekeeping. I did notice the items from the bathroom and confronted the girl and she gave the items up. Is this happening to anyone else? Last time, nobody took a thing.

Also noticed on the last night that the money changers did diverge, one had a 42. 5 another had 42. 8 and a third had an exchange rate of 42. 95 PHP / USD. It was odd because my previous oberservations was that they were almost in lock step with each other.

Had a great time and will return when I can.

[Key Master]

Lastly, most of the girls seemed rather liberal about using the mini bar. One seemed to have taken a couple of candy bars. Another tried to take some stuff from the bathroom. I did not notice the candy bar until notified through housekeeping. I did notice the items from the bathroom and confronted the girl and she gave the items up. Is this happening to anyone else? Last time, nobody took a thing.I haven't had that issue in a long time, but gather it could happen when things are out in the open like that. The stuff that Pacific Breeze leaves out looks like it's free when it sits out there like that and the women really may not know if you have to pay. Seriously, they may not. Most of the time, if they want something from the refrigerator they ask me first, but that's my personal experience. When I stay at a Pacific Breeze like that with the food and stuff outside, I try to stuff it in a drawer until I check out. I think I asked them before to take it out of my room and got some weird response like they're not supposed to.

[Gajith]

My cherry phil trip; the tourism department is right "there is more fu* in Philippines"

Guys giving you a cheap option to get to AC from NAIA.

After exiting the NAIA terminal 1, walk towards right side and under the flyover cross the road and wait for the bus. 12 pesos will take you to Taft Avenue MRT station. The bus will drop you on the right hand side of EDSA, but victory liner bus station is 200 meters ahead of the left side (there is an overbridge). If you ask for the Angeles city ticket they will give you ticket to Dau terminal. 150 pesos. After getting down at Dau, go to McArther highway, and round the corner there is a caltex petrol pump. Take Jeepney to SM clark terminal, most hotels are within 300 meters. Total travel time is 3 hr to 3. 5 hr max.

I actually took the trike from Dau to Kokomos hotel which cost 80 p for me, but trike journey is scaring for me since we don't see what is happening outside. Even our trike is going to collide with a big vehicle, we can't do anything.

Kokomos has to clubs, the girls are ok, and some girls are 8. One elder man stayed next to my room advised me everything. Heaven bar allows short term for 700 and long time 1500. On my first day I took Rebecca from Woodoo in Kokomos. She was really nice and clean (after every fuck, she bath and brushes). Superb breast of 32 B, and a nice pussy. Enjoyed her well. I was a bit unhappy because there were no morning play. 1850 + 100 for trike.

Second night, I befriended with an old bargirl and requested a new girl with tight pussy, and I got the gem! She was Reina 20 yo, and joined the bar 1 week before. She is actually from some of the province and speak only minimal English. After my first shot, found she is really good. Took her for bar hopping and treated her with a nice dinner. She told me I am her first customer, which I am not sure. But she looks pretty new to the action, she never insisted on bathing first, never knew doggy, inexperienced in kissing but doing something with her tongue in my mouth. Did a BBJ which was also inexperienced. She was kidding that she is a half cherry girl. I have her naked photos in my tab, will upload it once I reach Singapore.

Also found Eurotel hotel is having a promotion now. 1350 p per night. The hotel is guest friendly and the price includes breakfast for 2.

2nd night,

[Pute Nut]

Guys giving you a cheap option to get to AC from NAIA.

After exiting the NAIA terminal 1, walk towards right side and under the flyover cross the road and wait for the bus. 12 pesos will take you to Taft Avenue MRT station. The bus will drop you on the right hand side of EDSA, but victory liner bus station is 200 meters ahead of the left side (there is an overbridge).

If you ask for the Angeles city ticket they will give you ticket to Dau terminal. 150 pesos.Ordinary fare Pasay to Dau is PHP 114.


After getting down at Dau, go to McArther highway, and round the corner there is a caltex petrol pump. Take Jeepney to SM clark terminal, most hotels are within 300 meters. Total travel time is 3 hr to 3. 5 hr max.Can be more if Manila trapik is bad.


I actually took the trike from Dau to Kokomos hotel which cost 80 p for me,Should be max 70 to any Fields hotel, esp for such a short ride.


but trike journey is scaring for me since we don't see what is happening outside. Even our trike is going to collide with a big vehicle, we can't do anything.If riding a trike scares you, maybe AC (or the Phils for that matter) is not for you. Just take a jeepney for 8 pesos, will save poor negotiators 72 pesos up.

[Red Kilt]

Also noticed on the last night that the money changers did diverge, one had a 42. 5 another had 42. 8 and a third had an exchange rate of 42. 95 PHP / USD. It was odd because my previous oberservations was that they were almost in lock step with each other.If you changed $100 USD at each one you would get 4250, 4280 and 4295 php respectively. Hardly a monumental difference is it?

I would say just go to the closest one instead of trawling along the street to save a maximum of 45 php / 100 USD

[Slippery]

What are those two huge structures that are being built on the NLEX just north of the Norzagary exit. One looks like the world's largest cock fighting ring.

[X Man]

Good point RK. I do find that as you move towards Pony Tails, the rates get better.

I also try to avoid exchanging on the weekend. I'm no money market expert, but I'm guessing that they give themselves some cushion during the weekend when markets are closed and / or there is some unexpected international financial problems.

That being said, I'm quite the penny wise, pound foolish traveler.

1) Once checked rate (in Ac) at one place and decided to compare. At the next place the rate was less favorable and was even more unfavorable at the next place and the next and the next. Damn. Walked back down to the original place, and as you might have guessed, some spike had occurred and my little walk cost me a few hundred pesos. Duh.

2) There was that gal who left in the wee hours with a pretty good stash. The best thiefs and scammers are the ones you don't see coming. Nor going. LOL X.


If you changed $100 USD at each one you would get 4250, 4280 and 4295 php respectively. Hardly a monumental difference is it?

I would say just go to the closest one instead of trawling along the street to save a maximum of 45 php / 100 USD

[PussyFeelsGood]

Ordinary fare Pasay to Dau is PHP 114.Not anymore, its 150 now.

[D Cups]

If anyone has been in AC over New Year's Eve can I assume it is business as usual? Or do things slow down a bit? I'll probably stay at Orchid Inn in case anyone wants to drink with me or watch a NFL game. When I was stationed at Clark in 1982-84 we had no idea it would still be a monger's paradise in 2014!

[Fast Eddie 48]

Not anymore, its 150 now.PFG,

The victory line Manila to Dau have 2 fare one is regular and one is the Express non stop, I take the PHIL Rabbit a few month ago is only 125 p from Avenida bus station near veto cruz it will stop at Dau and then to Angeles city bus station if you ask the driver to drop you off at Field ave and McArthur hwy they will do that.

Fast Eddie 48

[Sammon]

If anyone has been in AC over New Year's Eve can I assume it is business as usual? Or do things slow down a bit? I'll probably stay at Orchid Inn in case anyone wants to drink with me or watch a NFL game. When I was stationed at Clark in 1982-84 we had no idea it would still be a monger's paradise in 2014!Business as usual. Very few go home during holidays. Some girls tell me they do not like to go home during holidays because everybody has their hands out for money since they all know she makes money in AC.

[Smoky Jack]

Good point RK. I do find that as you move towards Pony Tails, the rates get better.

I also try to avoid exchanging on the weekend. I'm no money market expert, but I'm guessing that they give themselves some cushion during the weekend when markets are closed and / or there is some unexpected international financial problems.

That being said, I'm quite the penny wise, pound foolish traveler.

1) Once checked rate (in Ac) at one place and decided to compare. At the next place the rate was less favorable and was even more unfavorable at the next place and the next and the next. Damn. Walked back down to the original place, and as you might have guessed, some spike had occurred and my little walk cost me a few hundred pesos. Duh.

2) There was that gal who left in the wee hours with a pretty good stash. The best thiefs and scammers are the ones you don't see coming. Nor going. LOL X.I think the 2000 peso girls are not much different than the 3000 peso girls. Having said that, I never let 1000 pesos stand in the way if I really have the hots for a girl. We are talking about $25 USD difference. For guys like me who are only in AC for a short time, it is not worth holding out for a 2K girl. Remember that some of us come from mongering in the US / Canads / Europe. In the German FKKs. 3000peso equivalents would buy you half an hour of straight service. In AC, it buys you a whole night of fucking + GFE.

I totally get why people who are more frequent flyers or live there would want to pinch every peso. But you also have to understand the perspective of the occasional AC visitor.

[Pute Nut]

I think the 2000 peso girls are not much different than the 3000 peso girls. Having said that, I never let 1000 pesos stand in the way if I really have the hots for a girl.Of course bar owners know that most five day millionaires will let the little head do the thinking and take a 3 K princess who will often try to convert LT to ST at any sign of punter softness (dead mother, carabao, baby, nanny, hygiene at 4 am bla blah).

[Exoticspirit]

Of course bar owners know that most five day millionaires will let the little head do the thinking and take a 3 K princess who will often try to convert LT to ST at any sign of punter softness (dead mother, carabao, baby, nanny, hygiene at 4 am bla blah).What if I requested only ST? Would they discount the bar fine?

[Pute Nut]

What if I requested only ST? Would they discount the bar fine?Generally no.

I have to admit I don't do much barfining in AC these days and all my recent BF negotiations have been strictly LT (so maybe active ST punters can update). But as a rule most Fields bars are LT focused although some may also offer a ST package. (Now defunct) Club 69 had a package deal with 2 or 3 hrs ST (forgot which) at the owners motel nearby. Moving up towards Perimeter Brass Knob used to offer an all in inhouse ST. On Perimeter all bets are off, but most will try to sell you LT, although some price lists will feature ST EWR if you ask. Bottom line is, for ST go to Santos area. Enjoy AC.

[Mr Enternational]

I have to admit I don't do much barfining in AC these days and all my recent BF negotiations have been strictly LT (so maybe active ST punters can update). But as a rule most Fields bars are LT focused although some may also offer a ST package. On Perimeter all bets are off, but most will try to sell you LT, although some price lists will feature ST EWR if you ask. Bottom line is, for ST go to Santos area. Enjoy AC.I'm not a barfine guy either, but every time I have passed by a gogo and the girl outside tries to get me to barfine I ask about short time and they always tell me there is just one price. As you said, the only places I have seen both ST and LT have been on Blow Row.

[Ekspat]

If anyone has been in AC over New Year's Eve can I assume it is business as usual? Or do things slow down a bit?Hi D!
Having been there twice over Christmas and NYE, I won't do it again. Many of the prettier girls travel home because they can afford it and many of the remaining girls are somewhat sad because they can't be home with family.

But this impression I had is at least 5 years old, dunno whether things have changed.

Cheers!

[Red Kilt]

But this impression I had is at least 5 years old, dunno whether things have changed.5 years!

Ekspat, you know as well as everyone that nothing changes in the Philippines across whole generations.

It is a well-known fact and it remains as you said. The best girls (ie those most in demand) , go home or don't work anyway at Christmas / New Year, Holy Week in Easter and the period around All Soul's Day (November 1, 2).

Always a few exceptions but IN GENERAL, you are correct.

[D Cups]

Thanks, Sammon and Ekspat. I'll have some dias lined up just in case. I'd like to ring in the new year with a BANG! Hahah Maybe a triple bang if possible! Smothered by six big boobs, willing mouths and tight little twats would certainly be a great way to begin a new year, yes?


Hi D!

Having been there twice over Christmas and NYE, I won't do it again. Many of the prettier girls travel home because they can afford it and many of the remaining girls are somewhat sad because they can't be home with family.

But this impression I had is at least 5 years old, dunno whether things have changed.

Cheers!

[PussyFeelsGood]

PFG,

The victory line Manila to Dau have 2 fare one is regular and one is the Express non stop, I take the PHIL Rabbit a few month ago is only 125 p from Avenida bus station near veto cruz it will stop at Dau and then to Angeles city bus station if you ask the driver to drop you off at Field ave and McArthur hwy they will do that.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks.

I assume the answer to this is yes, but you can get on the victory liner buses to Dau from the Cubao station right?

I would much rather take the train to dau and just leave from there then sit in traffic on the bus for the additional 45 minutes it takes to get from pasay to Cubao, and the train has a stop right next to the Cubao bus station.

[Smoky Jack]

Of course bar owners know that most five day millionaires will let the little head do the thinking and take a 3 K princess who will often try to convert LT to ST at any sign of punter softness (dead mother, carabao, baby, nanny, hygiene at 4 am bla blah).It's a free market. Nothing you can really do. You look on almost every monger board and there is an outcry over rising prices. Especially areas that have been traditionally "underpriced" relative to the rest of the world. For example, Tijuana has become more expensive tho still 3X cheaper than in San Diego. Every business owner pushes the rates until demand starts flagging. That is the way of the world. Most likely the goings on in AC these days will make overall demand sag. In which cases prices may drop again.

I suspect the LT to ST conversion can happen at any level of price-I doubt that 3k girls run more than 2k girls.

[Chris Long]

Less than three months after I placed my curse on them in my last trip report the place is gone.

Good bye to stuck up so called guest relations officers who are to prudish to let the average monger early work release them.

They will NOT be missed,

Chris

[Capt Munch]

If anyone has been in AC over New Year's Eve can I assume it is business as usual? Or do things slow down a bit? I'll probably stay at Orchid Inn in case anyone wants to drink with me or watch a NFL game. When I was stationed at Clark in 1982-84 we had no idea it would still be a monger's paradise in 2014!There is a little slow down. But as already mentioned, a lot of the girls stay in Angeles for the holidays. With 1,000's of girls to choose from, it is possible to still find an affectionate companion.

The biggest disappoint this past holiday period was with the Pasha Group of bars (La Pasha, Carousel, Genesis, Typhoon and Fantasy Club) which implemented a "holiday" surcharge of an extra 1000 php for EWR's. The normal 2000 php was 3000 php for Christmas Eve, Christmas, New Years Eve and New Years day. I did NOT find any of the other bars following this example, but who knows, they may this year. A couple of years ago, the Pasha Group was also the leader in raising the EWRs to 2000 php.

New Years Eve celebrations seemed a little calmer this year and some of the absolutely wild fireworks craziness of other years seemed lessened. That may be because of the fireworks booth that burned up a couple years back. That took place somewhere around the shops across from Margarita Station (I wasn't there for that) I did walk out of Typhoon on New Years Eve (a few years back) and almost stepped into a "explosion" of about 2000 fireworks that were going off in the street.

There were some huge amounts of fireworks going off in the neighborhood around my place this year. Amazing the amount of money that must be spent on some of these "local" displays.

[Fifty Pesos]

I am personally am sad to see the place go. Cuba Cuba had an excellent atmosphere for the area and the best food I have tasted almost anywhere in Philippines. It was a good place to meet up with other guys in on the hobby and catch up on the latest sports.

As for the GROs / waitresses not wanting to go out with mongers. Do all the women in sight need to be available? I watched them turn their nose up at a young buddy of mine (he has no problem attracting western ladies) and I must say I was impressed.

[White Whale]

I am personally am sad to see the place go. Cuba Cuba had an excellent atmosphere for the area and the best food I have tasted almost anywhere in Philippines. It was a good place to meet up with other guys in on the hobby and catch up on the latest sports.

As for the GROs / waitresses not wanting to go out with mongers. Do all the women in sight need to be available? I watched them turn their nose up at a young buddy of mine (he has no problem attracting western ladies) and I must say I was impressed.Glad got to visit before gone. It was end of April. We were a party of six. Three of us stayed the restaurant side and three wanted go to the Poker room. The restaurant was empty despite us three and two waitresses. No GROs or FLs. The poker room was packed and one had to queue for a place in the table.

[Pip Jaeger]

ABC will hold it's annual pool party on July 7th; over 200 girls from 20plus different bars; special dance teams from some of the top bars will also be there; admission is 500p (all you can drink) and 750p for VIP area seating. Starts at 12pm, but get there early for a good seat (11am or so).

Wish I could be there!

[Gajith]

ABC will hold it's annual pool party on July 7th; over 200 girls from 20plus different bars; special dance teams from some of the top bars will also be there; admission is 500p (all you can drink) and 750p for VIP area seating. Starts at 12pm, but get there early for a good seat (11am or so).

Wish I could be there!There was a Pool Party at Wild Orchid Resort last Sunday from 2 pm. The entry fee was 200 P. Participants from 10 bars only BTW.

[Wicked Roger]

ABC will hold it's annual pool party on July 7th; over 200 girls from 20plus different bars; special dance teams from some of the top bars will also be there; admission is 500p (all you can drink) and 750p for VIP area seating. Starts at 12pm, but get there early for a good seat (11am or so).

Wish I could be there!PJ,

I am in Manila so maybe this iconic tourism and cultural event is something I should pop up for. Seen the videos on You Tube etc and always wondered why the country has never used it in its campaign "Its more fun in the Philippines". Sensible way to use this event IMHO.

[Sxxxx]

ABC will hold it's annual pool party on July 7th; over 200 girls from 20plus different bars; special dance teams from some of the top bars will also be there; admission is 500p (all you can drink) and 750p for VIP area seating. Starts at 12pm, but get there early for a good seat (11am or so).

Wish I could be there!Can we video the girls?

[Exoticspirit]

ABC will hold it's annual pool party on July 7th; over 200 girls from 20plus different bars; special dance teams from some of the top bars will also be there; admission is 500p (all you can drink) and 750p for VIP area seating. Starts at 12pm, but get there early for a good seat (11am or so).

Wish I could be there!From the videos and photos I've seen of the ABC pool party and that of others, it seems that the bars send their wildest girls but not necessarily the best looking ones. The girls are actually quite plain in my opinion. The bars seem to send their best only if the event has a bikini contest.

[Pip Jaeger]

The Entry fee's I quoted were contained in an email I received from ABC, but on their website it says: General Admission = Php1, 000 and VIP = Php 2, 000. Either there's a discount for guests / prior guests or maybe they've dropped the price due to lack of advanced ticket sales. In any event, if I was anywhere close I'd be making arrangements to go.

http://www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com/events.php

http://www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com/kandykrush.php


I am in Manila so maybe this iconic tourism and cultural event is something I should pop up for.You lucky SOB, if you do go, make sure you bring plenty of SD cards to record the event for the rest of us poor slobs who can't attend.


The bars seem to send their best only if the event has a bikini contest.You can bet that there will be a "bikini / beauty" competition complete with the requisite selling of beaded necklaces, but from the few I've attended I've found that a lot of the really pretty girls don't enter it. Too shy, LOL. And I'm also sure there there will be a bar team dance competition too. They like that prize money and they love to show off. I have to admit that many of them are quite good dancers and they put on a hellava good show that is enjoyable to watch; but being the perve that I am I also fantasize about putting their limber bodies and gymnastic talents to other uses (insert big grin).

[Chris Long]

I am personally am sad to see the place go. Cuba Cuba had an excellent atmosphere for the area and the best food I have tasted almost anywhere in Philippines. It was a good place to meet up with other guys in on the hobby and catch up on the latest sports.

As for the GROs / waitresses not wanting to go out with mongers. Do all the women in sight need to be available? I watched them turn their nose up at a young buddy of mine (he has no problem attracting western ladies) and I must say I was impressed.That's why we pay over a thousand dollars, spend an entire day in a plane and travel half way around the world so that every women in sight we see is available to us. If we want stuck up prudish snobs to turn their nose up at us we can save our money and stay at home, I personally am not impressed when a bunch of rice farmers and trike drivers daughters think they are too good for us. Fuck Cuba. Cuba and the stuck up snobbish guest relationship officers. I hope their snobbish asses are all working across the street now at the short time blow job bars blowing for 700 pesos, less than $20 it serves them right. (Every one of them broke out of work snobs would be only too happy to accept my pesos now)

Chris

[Pip Jaeger]

If we want stuck up prudish snobs to turn their nose up at us we can save our money and stay at home, I personally am not impressed when a bunch of rice farmers and trike drivers daughters think they are too good for us. Fuck Cuba. Cuba and the stuck up snobbish guest relationship officers. I hope their snobbish asses are all working across the street now at the short time blow job bars blowing for 700 pesos, less than $20 it serves them right. (Every one of them broke out of work snobs would be only too happy to accept my pesos now)Funny post Chris, be even funnier if they ARE working across the street now, LOL. I won't miss the GRO's there either, but is the resto and bar still open? The food there wasn't bad, it was a convenient place to meet and I did enjoy shooting pool there with a few of my girls and their gf's.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Why is Chris so angry?

One of the best parts about being in the Philippines is not having to care if you get rejected, so the girls there didn't want to go with you. Big deal there are plenty of others around that will.

[Jack4765]

I was outside of Tight Jeans one night a few months ago (closed last time I was there) and asked this door girl if she was interested. She rolled her eyes and turned away!

Now listen. I'm no beauty and my age is up there, but my money is as good as anyones. I stepped around in front of her and told her there were thousands of her in AC and she wasn't that good looking to try and be selective. Went by again later that night and, you guessed it, she was still out there shaking her ass and trying to get some dummy to take her.

[Sxxxx]

That's why we pay over a thousand dollars, spend an entire day in a plane and travel half way around the world so that every women in sight we see is available to us. ChrisThe blame is on owner management, not making it clear to patrons that ladies are not available for take out.

Obviously the girls you are talking about are not prostitutes. Even if they were, they do not have to go with a guy just because he has the hots for her.

Owner management is to blame, not the individual girls themselves.

[Socker]

That's why we pay over a thousand dollars, spend an entire day in a plane and travel half way around the world so that every women in sight we see is available to us. If we want stuck up prudish snobs to turn their nose up at us we can save our money and stay at home, I personally am not impressed when a bunch of rice farmers and trike drivers daughters think they are too good for us. Fuck Cuba. Cuba and the stuck up snobbish guest relationship officers. I hope their snobbish asses are all working across the street now at the short time blow job bars blowing for 700 pesos, less than $20 it serves them right. (Every one of them broke out of work snobs would be only too happy to accept my pesos now)

ChrisLast time I checked the PI was a free country. Unless your post is completely tongue in cheek you're a vindictive dreamer. Where in the monger handbook does it say every women (anywhere) has to be available to you or me? If you can't find available pussy in AC worthy of your day long journey than don't go. You should just stick w / the countries where every woman is available to you then we'll all be happy*$$% unbeleivable if not TIC.

[Key Master]

Funny post Chris, be even funnier if they ARE working across the street now, LOL. I won't miss the GRO's there either, but is the resto and bar still open? The food there wasn't bad, it was a convenient place to meet and I did enjoy shooting pool there with a few of my girls and their gf's.The place is closed down now. The poker room is still open. They are supposedly redoing the place to become more like the hotel restaurant for that place being built Penthouse. The one that has taken forever to build. They are part of the same group, the Lewis Grand Group.

[Archetype]

Guys, I am looking to organise a 8 day trip to Bangkok and Angeles City (couldn't choose one!) after my last attempt at a Bangkok.Pattaya trip came a cropper due to work. Can you please guide me on whether I can fly from Bangkok to Clark (the travel sites are not throwing up any options).

[Pagal Chacha]

Guys, I am looking to organise a 8 day trip to Bangkok and Angeles City (couldn't choose one!) after my last attempt at a Bangkok.Pattaya trip came a cropper due to work. Can you please guide me on whether I can fly from Bangkok to Clark (the travel sites are not throwing up any options).There are regular flights betn BKK and Clark by Cebu Pacific if you checktheir website regularly quite often they have prkotional firs based on supply and demand

[Pip Jaeger]

The place is closed down now. The poker room is still open. They are supposedly redoing the place to become more like the hotel restaurant for that place being built Penthouse. The one that has taken forever to build. They are part of the same group, the Lewis Grand Group.Thanks for the info KM. Hope they keep the outdoor café feel to it, guess time will tell.

[Wicked Roger]

Guys, I am looking to organise a 8 day trip to Bangkok and Angeles City (couldn't choose one!) after my last attempt at a Bangkok.Pattaya trip came a cropper due to work. Can you please guide me on whether I can fly from Bangkok to Clark (the travel sites are not throwing up any options).Try skyscanner web site this has helped me in the past. It does depend if the airline subscribe but you can get a feel of which airline or where. There are other similar web site but I use this the most.

[Pute Nut]

There are regular flights betn BKK and Clark by Cebu Pacific if you checktheir website regularly quite often they have prkotional firs based on supply and demandIn addition to that, Tiger Airways also flies this route (operated by SeaAir). You can book directly at the airlines' websites.

[PussyFeelsGood]

I was outside of Tight Jeans one night a few months ago (closed last time I was there) and asked this door girl if she was interested. She rolled her eyes and turned away!

Now listen. I'm no beauty and my age is up there, but my money is as good as anyones. I stepped around in front of her and told her there were thousands of her in AC and she wasn't that good looking to try and be selective. Went by again later that night and, you guessed it, she was still out there shaking her ass and trying to get some dummy to take her.How do you know she was trying to get someone to take her? Door girls jobs are to get the guys interested so they go inside, they don't have to fuck every guy that says "please".

[Archetype]

Try skyscanner web site this has helped me in the past. It does depend if the airline subscribe but you can get a feel of which airline or where. There are other similar web site but I use this the most.Thanks WR. Game me a good idea. But getting both AC and Bangkok in within a 7 day schedule is proving both challenging and expensive. Guess will leave AC out for later and concentrate on BKK for now. Thanks again

[Exoticspirit]

How do you know she was trying to get someone to take her? Door girls jobs are to get the guys interested so they go inside, they don't have to fuck every guy that says,please.From what I understand, the door girls are available for bar fining.

[Sammon]

From what I understand, the door girls are available for bar fining.Yes, door girls, waitresses, mamasans and pretty much all the girls inside the bar can be barfined. Caveat is it is totally the girl's choice to go with you or not.

[Psychman]

Last time I checked the PI was a free country. Unless your post is completely tongue in cheek you're a vindictive dreamer. Where in the monger handbook does it say every women (anywhere) has to be available to you or me? If you can't find available pussy in AC worthy of your day long journey than don't go. You should just stick w / the countries where every woman is available to you then we'll all be happy*$$% unbeleivable if not TIC.I have met Chris, and he is a very good guy. I think perhaps his post was not his shinning moment; sometimes we can all come across in way we do not really mean in an online environment.