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Nirvana raided last night.
New bar Nirvana which opened up about a month ago was raided last night and shut down. Roomer was the owner felt he was above making any donations so he never made them. The girls as of the time of this writing a day later are still being held at San Fernando police station apparently they have access to their phones as I am getting text messages from one girl I know who is still being held. She said the owner is not cooperating and being a real jerk so the police are still holding the girls. Its a shame really because I have had four girls from this bar either bar fined them directly from the bar or knew them from the previous bar they worked at or met them at High Society when they were off work and all four are nice girls who don't deserve to be held like this just because the owner is a real jerk.
On another note Grand Pharaohs and Calypso which were raided last week are back open, in fact they opened up the very next day. For the first few days the girls did not where their uniforms and they did not turn on the lights but they were there working. Now everything is back to normal as the girls are wearing their uniforms and the lights are back on. I guess they made the right donation.
ChrisHahahaha you hold a girl against her will and let's see what happens. How many sets of laws are there in this country?
Wolvenvacht
08-09-14, 08:42
Nirvana raided last night.
New bar Nirvana which opened up about a month ago was raided last night and shut down. Roomer was the owner felt he was above making any donations so he never made them. The girls as of the time of this writing a day later are still being held at San Fernando police station apparently they have access to their phones as I am getting text messages from one girl I know who is still being held. She said the owner is not cooperating and being a real jerk so the police are still holding the girls. Its a shame really because I have had four girls from this bar either bar fined them directly from the bar or knew them from the previous bar they worked at or met them at High Society when they were off work and all four are nice girls who don't deserve to be held like this just because the owner is a real jerk.You should have rushed to the Police station and bailed your girl out. ;)
For the life of me I cannot find a direct non stop flight from BKK to Clark airport. Its either Manila or fly for 13 hours+ and pay over $1200. Am I missing something?I have never been to AC, but have begun researching it for an upcoming trip. Someone on the forum recently mentioned cheap flights on Cebu Pac, and he was right. You can get a ticket from Clark to Hong Kong one way for $30. Seriously. $30! Thats less than a bar tab! Hong Kong is a major transport hub, so you can fly to anywhere in SE Asia with plenty of options. Lots of great options in SE Asia, but I am planning to use HK to Clark as my way in and out of the PI.
It seems that you have an issue with white people, or more specific, with white men going with Filipinas. I wonder why.Oh no you don't. Don't try to turn this into a race thing. My issue is showing a little self respect & respect for others.
Please understand I don't look through the eyes of a newly arrived sex tourist in adult Disneyland. I am forced to confront the daily tableau of sex tourists every day.
Since writing my comment the demographics on the street have changed. Lots of youngish 35-45 your old ROK's & PRC guys out & about with their rent a hoeshoes. These guys are all fit & well dressed. Boy is there a big difference in body language! Their girls are smiling & beaming up into their faces like lovers. The girls look a helluva lot happier. I wonder why?
AV.
ThatGuy865
08-10-14, 06:32
Oh no you don't. Don't try to turn this into a race thing. My issue is showing a little self respect & respect for others.
Please understand I don't look through the eyes of a newly arrived sex tourist in adult Disneyland. I am forced to confront the daily tableau of sex tourists every day.
Since writing my comment the demographics on the street have changed. Lots of youngish 35-45 your old ROK's & PRC guys out & about with their rent a hoeshoes. These guys are all fit & well dressed. Boy is there a big difference in body language! Their girls are smiling & beaming up into their faces like lovers. The girls look a helluva lot happier. I wonder why?
AV.It appears you have a hangup w / seeing older 60 yr old men with the younger ladies. I have seen these girls beaming up in the faces of old guys and marrying them.
I guess you think all these years they have been seeing these old guys. The babes have been miserable. Although thousands have married and lived with these old guys. But all of a sudden they have changed?
What's the going rate for airport transfer from Manila? I'm seeing prices at 2900 peso. That seems quite expensive so I'd like to check with the members here that I'm not missing a deal elsewhere?
Respect for others? I think Mr. John Traveler was responding to the post which said, "huge whale of a very old guy ". Sorry to point out the contradiction, but that doesn't sound very respectful to overweight people, nor old people. The fact that he was with an inappropriately dressed woman says more about her than him, IMHO. Maybe he was taking her to the mall to buy her some proper clothes. Or even a wedding dress! LOL.
Nevertheless, I also cringe at some of the things I see in Asia when it comes to some of the less sophisticated Westerners interacting with the locals. Or in the case of AVs original post, clueless Westerners interacting with unsophisticated locals (I think AV used the word hoe. Which is actually banned on this site when it is spelled correctly).
I'm not taking sides here. Hope AV can describe or photograph more of the strange AC world. I miss it! X.
SNIP My issue is showing a little self respect & respect for others.
Please understand I don't look through the eyes of a newly arrived sex tourist in adult Disneyland. I am forced to confront the daily tableau of sex tourists every day.
SNIP
AV.
Cool Traveler
08-10-14, 14:33
Did you try Air Asia? Air Asia flies out of Don Muang (DMK) Bangkok and not BKK. There is a direct flight to Clark and as far as I know, it still operates. You have to go to airasia.com.
For the life of me I cannot find a direct non stop flight from BKK to Clark airport. Its either Manila or fly for 13 hours+ and pay over $1200. Am I missing something?
ConquerorVal
08-10-14, 14:48
I have never been to AC, but have begun researching it for an upcoming trip. Someone on the forum recently mentioned cheap flights on Cebu Pac, and he was right. You can get a ticket from Clark to Hong Kong one way for $30. Seriously. $30! Thats less than a bar tab! Hong Kong is a major transport hub, so you can fly to anywhere in SE Asia with plenty of options. Lots of great options in SE Asia, but I am planning to use HK to Clark as my way in and out of the PI.Wow, that is a remarkable price. Definitely after this trip to AC, if I like it, I will take the Hong Kong route.
WestCoast1
08-10-14, 15:34
What's the going rate for airport transfer from Manila? I'm seeing prices at 2900 peso. That seems quite expensive so I'd like to check with the members here that I'm not missing a deal elsewhere?Tried to send you a PM with some info, but you don't have PM. Which means you should pay up a membership (if you can afford to travel to phils, you can afford the $20 for a membership). PM me when you get a membership and I'll give you some rates and alternate methods for getting to AC from Manila.
Since writing my comment the demographics on the street have changed. Lots of youngish 35-45 your old ROK's & PRC guys out & about with their rent a hoeshoes. These guys are all fit & well dressed. Boy is there a big difference in body language! Their girls are smiling & beaming up into their faces like lovers. The girls look a helluva lot happier. I wonder why?
AV.They are smiling because they are being spoiled with money, gifts, and relinquished male power!
They are smiling because they are being spoiled with money, gifts, and relinquished male power!They are smiling cause they have got someone under 50 for a change, LOL.
GoodEnough
08-11-14, 04:36
They are smiling because they are being spoiled with money, gifts, and relinquished male power!Obviously you've never observed Korean men closely if you think they've relinquished the mythical male power.
Obviously you've never observed Korean men closely if you think they've relinquished the mythical male power.See it everyday in AC as the girls lead the koreans around by the hand(while guy carries their bag) and drags them to every outlet to spend money on them.
See it everyday in AC as the girls lead the koreans around by the hand(while guy carries their bag) and drags them to every outlet to spend money on them.Hahaha. That's a Korean-girl emasculate-the-guy move. I guess the Pinays have picked it up from watching the Korean telanovelas and music videos. If the Pinays are picking up other I-am-Korean-princess behaviours that's a real tragedy. What I always like best about these Pinays is their winning personalities. It would be a shame if they lost it aping Koreans.
Did you try Air Asia? There is a direct flight to Clark and as far as I know, it still operates.Nope, there isn't any flight Don Muang to Clark. At least not by AA.
FreebieFan
08-11-14, 10:14
Hahaha. That's a Korean-girl emasculate-the-guy move. I guess the Pinays have picked it up from watching the Korean telanovelas and music videos. If the Pinays are picking up other I-am-Korean-princess behaviours that's a real tragedy. What I always like best about these Pinays is their winning personalities. It would be a shame if they lost it aping Koreans.In China every day, you see the princess with some huge handbag and the poor fella is lugging it around.
About the first conversation I have with a girl its usually " I will buy you drinks and dinner but no matter how long we date or how often we date I will NEVER carry your handbag.
Its actually hard not to laugh when you see a 6 ft 3 stud carrying his babys lime green Miu Miu bag.
Its actually hard not to laugh when you see a 6 ft 3 stud carrying his babys lime green Miu Miu bag.Hahaha. In Seoul it was the overpriced bag, which the chump often buys for her as a prerequisite to date her, and in his other hand was another fashion accessory... her dyed-pink shih tzu.
See what happens when a nation practices gender-specific abortion? The emasculation of men two generations later due to way-out-of-whack gender disparity.
GoodEnough
08-11-14, 11:06
See it everyday in AC as the girls lead the koreans around by the hand(while guy carries their bag) and drags them to every outlet to spend money on them.Guess we're looking at different samples. What I see is Korean men treating girls like crap.
Wicked Roger
08-11-14, 11:36
Guess we're looking at different samples. What I see is Korean men treating girls like crap.I agree and have this as first hand knowledge from some of the girls I know (not just bar girls).
The bar girls tell me the Koreans smell, smoke too much, drink too much, treat them badly but money talks (lots of cash, not much time shagging and a small todger) - so as they need they go with them. If they can get them to by lots of goodies all the better.
College girls are more fussy and those I speak with won't go with many. They like the young Koreans until they find she is to be shared (when possibly drunk) with his mates (go to J Ave in Cebu and see them hunt in packs and ply then with drinks) - then after that dislike (or heard about it from their friends). Bad reputation all round is the general impression I get.
Me. I dislike Koreans only because whichever queue they are in the time goes so slowly as they can never figure out what they want, can't articulate (despite being there for English lessons), can't insert their micro SIM, no idea how to fin the balance, no idea how to deal with the the money etc. The 'Express Lane' at Globe is 'tortoise lane' when they are before me, same for the supermarket. Even the cashiers complain about them (and they can be rude to them also).
But as I said money talks. However GE's observation is the same as mine. Generally not polite, not respectful and lots of other issues also.
Chris Long
08-11-14, 21:51
Nirvana back open.
Walked by Nirvana bar tonight and it was back open with door girls out front every thing looked normal. Apparently the owner decided to smarten up and make the right donations in order to open back up.
Chris
Nirvana back open.
Walked by Nirvana bar tonight and it was back open with door girls out front every thing looked normal. Apparently the owner decided to smarten up and make the right donations in order to open back up.
ChrisFuck opening back up. I'd be more interested in staying out of jail.
LordBastian
08-12-14, 13:15
Fuck opening back up. I'd be more interested in staying out of jail.I know the owner there, the mamsan and several of the girls. Cool place. A good majority used to work at the opposite end at 7. I guess they got tired of working for a korean owner. Speaking of which, I heard Tao is changing hands. Korean owner bought the place. A lot of the girls are looking to jump ship. I anticipate them being redistributed up and down the strip.
I really miss Players. Too bad they turned it into a resturant. Oh well. I'll be back for and unprecedented 11th time in 2 yrs next month.
Keep hunting and stay safe.
Lord Bastian.
Nope, there isn't any flight Don Muang to Clark. At least not by AA.I am sincerely asking, but why would anyone want to try and fly from Manila to AC? Isn't it only a 2 hour drive? Given the time it takes to get to the airport, that's probably faster than flying. I read many posts about how people do it. It doesn't seem that hard. Is there something I don't know? Are the buses crap? Is the ride uncomfortable? Are the buses robbed often? Even if it is only $60, the bus ride has got to be something like 60 cents.
Member #4698
08-12-14, 17:43
Don Muang to Clark is the route Air Asia used to fly from Bangkok to AC. they also flew from Bangkok (Don Muang) to MNL. Don Muang is Bangkok's older international airport and the hub for Air Asia in Thailand.
I have experienced a number of flights and respective routes in and around the PI cancelled by Air Asia. Normally I like flying this airlines, but their record with respect to the PI is not reliable. 1. They cancelled a ticketed flight (and the route) I had from Clark to Puerto Princessa a month before I was scheduled to fly. I scrubbed my visit to Palawan on account of their cancellation. 2. Just this past Sunday, Air Asia cancelled a ticketed Friday afternoon flight I had with them from Macau to MNL. They attempted to reschedule me on a Saturday flight instead. Apparently Air Asia is not flying Macau to MNL on Friday anymore. This was not acceptable to me and I re booked with Philippine Airlines. 3. I flew one of the last Air Asia flights on their now cancelled route from KL to Clark. I am just glad they didn't cancel that flight on me.
The bottom line is I will think twice or three times before I ever book another flight to the PI with Air Asia. They always gave me a full refund for their cancellations, but it is not worth the uncertainty and inconvenience a cancelled flight and route can create.
Mr Enternational
08-12-14, 18:53
Nope, there isn't any flight Don Muang to Clark. At least not by AA.
I am sincerely asking, but why would anyone want to try and fly from Manila to AC?...Is there something I don't know?I think what you don't know is that Don Muang is in Bangkok. Ninoy Aquino is in Manila. So he wants a flight from the old airport in Bangkok to AC. P.S. The bus ride from Manila to AC is $3 and a taxi is about $60.
Wicked Roger
08-12-14, 23:30
I am sincerely asking, but why would anyone want to try and fly from Manila to AC? Isn't it only a 2 hour drive?...As some have said (FR) before, this does show that Manny has yet to be in the Philippines or Asia as a whole. You were remarkably polite Mr E in your response as this question from a 'well seasoned monger' does begs so many other questions. Manny can you fess up and tell us where you have really been as this question suggests you don't know much about Asia IMHO.
As some have said (FR) before, this does show that Manny has yet to be in the Philippines or Asia as a whole. You were remarkably polite Mr E in your response as this question from a 'well seasoned monger' does begs so many other questions. Manny can you fess up and tell us where you have really been as this question suggests you don't know much about Asia IMHO.Look, I asked a question sincerely and in earnest. I am sincerely wondering whether there is a down side to taking the bus to AC, so I am asking. I'm getting tired of this crap. I want to participate on this forum just like anyone else. I would prefer to hug it out now. Otherwise, we can chat about it in person when I visit the PI.
But to answer your question, I have been to Thailand 7 times, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Bali, Kuala Lumpur, Borneo, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. In the PI, I have been to Cebu and the surrounding area.
May I ask where you have been?
FreebieFan
08-13-14, 01:36
May I ask where you have been?I'm going to be holding onto the edge of my seat for WR's response. I think it safe to say hes been in many nooks and crannies of the Philippines. (note I said crannies. Not trannies!).
I think what you don't know is that Don Muang is in Bangkok. Ninoy Aquino is in Manila. So he wants a flight from the old airport in Bangkok to AC. P.S. The bus ride from Manila to AC is $3 and a taxi is about $60.My mistake. I thought I read someone asking about flights from Manila to AC. Didn't read the posts carefully, obviously.
WestCoast1
08-13-14, 01:51
I am sincerely asking, but why would anyone want to try and fly from Manila to AC? Isn't it only a 2 hour drive? Given the time it takes to get to the airport, that's probably faster than flying. I read many posts about how people do it. It doesn't seem that hard. Is there something I don't know? Are the buses crap? Is the ride uncomfortable? Are the buses robbed often? Even if it is only $60, the bus ride has got to be something like 60 cents.Yes and no.
One can take a bus from the bus stations for under $5, and the busses run regularly all day. But getting out of Manila for any vehicle between 9 am-8 pm is time-consuming, and the trip can be much longer than 2 hours. One must also get to a bus terminal, which is a taxi ride from NAIA or your hotel, which can take some time. Its still a quicker route than trying to fly from NAIA to AC, and I was not aware of any such flights.
When I want to get to AC from Manila, I try and do one of several things:
1. Try to find an arriving flight into NAIA that lands between 9 pm-6 pm. The Manila city traffic is light. Then take my AC hotel pickup service ($60-ish). Its expensive, but the beauty of this is that you have your personal driver waiting for you, you don't have to wait for anything, you don't have to taxi to the bus stop in another city (and wait for that bus to fill up before departing), you have a vehicle you can stretch out in the back seat (I often sleep), you get to control the driver and radio, he will make as many stops as you want (I typically stop at a convenience store for drinks for me and him just out of the airport, then along the freeway an hour up the road for fast food for me and the driver -- that's his tip; never seen a driver unhappy with a big mac and fries). A light-traffic trip is about 100 minutes.
2. Outside of that landing timeframe I usually spend the night in Manila. There are no thrills in AC that I can't also have in Manila, then fly-the-bus from Swaggy the next day.
A warning about Manila traffic. Several trips back, my AC hotel driver picked me up at the airport about 3:30 pm. Off we went. I've used that hotel's car service before (always spot-on service). I told the driver all the above usuals: radio off, stop at the convenience store and then McDo at the rest stop on the highway, etc. We got some juice at the store and off we went and I killed the juice. I was dog tired from the travel and went to sleep in the back. When I woke up it had gotten really really cloudy (it seemed to me, but I was wrong, it was dusk). I had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) like a racehorse. Traffic was horrendous and we were still in the thick of Manila, not on a freeway. I thought I'd slept half an hour, or maybe an hour, but I had slept almost 3 hours. I thought I would bust open from having to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). It took us 5 minutes to go one block ("Berry troppick sir".) Finally the driver found a place with a CR. I jumped back in the back seat and off we went, and I went back to sleep. The driver woke me at the higway rest stop as requested and I had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) badly again. It was dark and I looked at my phone: 7:20 pm. WTF? Had we been in the car nearly 4 hours? Yes. We were at the hotel 45 minutes later. To assume that its 2 hours from NAIA to your hotel might just be wrong (at times).
ThatGuy865
08-13-14, 01:56
My mistake. I thought I read someone asking about flights from Manila to AC. Didn't read the posts carefully, obviously.In any case. There is nothing hard about getting from Manila to AC. Bus, taxi, car services or by swagman van service. Each will get you there safely.
Its a matter of how one likes to travel. Bus is least expensive (I don't use them any longer so not sure of current price) you have to take taxi to bus station. Once you arrive in Dau you'll need to take a trike to your hotel. . car service (my preference) is probably most expensive. 2800 p. Picks up at airport takes you directly to your hotel. . . Taxi's can be cheaper if you have negotiation skills. Swagman hotel runs a van service from their Manila hotel to varies hotels along fields.
Capt Munch
08-13-14, 02:47
Yes and no.
One can take a bus from the bus stations for under $5, and the buses run regularly all day. But getting out of Manila for any vehicle between 9 am-8 pm is time-consuming, and the trip can be much longer than 2 hours. One must also get to a bus terminal, which is a taxi ride from NAIA or your hotel, which can take some time. Its still a quicker route than trying to fly from NAIA to AC, and I was not aware of any such flights. Has anybody checked to see in ABC Hotel is still offering up the helicopter service from NAIA?
light-traffic trip is about 100 minutes. The fastest I have ever made it was door (AC Hotel) to Term 1 NAIA in 1 hr 30 min. And that was leaving Angeles at 4:30 AM and arriving at NAIA at 6 AM. Light traffic all the way. That was 5 years ago and almost nothing has improved since then.
Well. . . . maybe some improvements. . . . The mayor is trying in reducing daytime truck traffic and control the non-franchised buses and jeepneys. There seems to be moderate enforcement during the daytime.
SO. . . . still. . . Expect traffic.
Late night arrivals. . . . I schedule a driver. . . . or nowadays I think about getting a taxi to Ermita and grabbing Swaggy / Southern Cross the next day. (same as others.).
It's always possible to find some light entertainment at the LA Cafe in Ermita.
To assume that its 2 hours from NAIA to your hotel might just be wrong (at times).For me, a noon Friday arrival one time and Manila traffic was horrible. . . Easily 4 hours to Angeles. 3 hours is typical.
Munch.
I can't find any certain answers as to what are valid I'd's for airline travel in Philippines for Filipinas. I want to take a local Filipina with me to Cebu from Clark or Manila and back. I would appreciate help from actual experienced travelers that has gone thru the security point with Filipina in tow. Thanks in advance.
Look, I asked a question sincerely and in earnest. I am sincerely wondering whether there is a down side to taking the bus to AC, so I am asking. I'm getting tired of this crap. I want to participate on this forum just like anyone else. I would prefer to hug it out now. Otherwise, we can chat about it in person when I visit the PI.
But to answer your question, I have been to Thailand 7 times, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Bali, Kuala Lumpur, Borneo, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. In the PI, I have been to Cebu and the surrounding area.
May I ask where you have been?Wow! You have had about the same number of trips to Asia as I have. But on the other hand, the total duration of my trips adds up to nearly 30 years! I note that your PI trip was less than 3 days.
Makeupaname
08-13-14, 04:56
August 11,2014 http://www.harrythehorse.asia/?p=10588.
I am in shock as I write this. I was just informed that doggy dave was murdered in his house at 5 pm last night. It appears to have been a robbery by two Filipino men that he might have known since he gave them entrance to the house.
His neighbor (a foreigner) heard yelling from the house, "help, help", told his wife and she thought it was the tv. But he said "no, it sounded like a real voice". He called 117 (emergency #) and it took the police one hour to arrive. The neighbor saw the two men leaving and was able to get the license # of the tricycle. Howard arrived on the scene at 7 pm. Doggy lived in plaridel near blue fields hotel.
This is horrible news as dave had so many friends and would not harm a fly. If it was robbery the bastards would not have gotten much as dave lived a simple life. His daughter is coming home from baguio where she is in residence completing her two year requirement at the hospital.
Doggy had requested that he would like to die quickly and be cremated. The manner in which he died is totally unacceptable. No other details available at this time. His friend of 25 years howard mckay will take care of all the details and assist the daughter.
A bit of music died last night.
Wicked Roger
08-13-14, 06:28
But to answer your question, I have been to Thailand 7 times, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Bali, Kuala Lumpur, Borneo, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. In the PI, I have been to Cebu and the surrounding area.
May I ask where you have been?If you had been to Thailand then you would the airport etc hence the FR.
Where I have been: 65+ countries, all continents, all over Asia, add in lots of South / Latin America and some more unsavoury places and that is my travel diary. Recently send 42 weeks on the move. So I do know my airports. LOL.
Wicked Roger
08-13-14, 06:30
I can't find any certain answers as to what are valid I'd's for airline travel in Philippines for Filipinas. I want to take a local Filipina with me to Cebu from Clark or Manila and back. I would appreciate help from actual experienced travelers that has gone thru the security point with Filipina in tow. Thanks in advance.Postal and / student ID is OK within the Philippines.
Easy to get postal ID if she has not got. Have flown mainly times between Cebu. Davao, Manila and Clark with the odd trip elsewhere in the country and cuties used either ID easily. Check in together is my advice.
Wow! You have had about the same number of trips to Asia as I have. But on the other hand, the total duration of my trips adds up to nearly 30 years! I note that your PI trip was less than 3 days.So what's your point Ikk? No pissing matches needed. Maybe he has a bigger dick than you.
So what's your point Ikk? No pissing matches needed. Maybe he has a bigger dick than you.I am really surprised that I need to answer a question like this! And the comment was not really to do with me, but addressed the to and fro between Manny and WR.
Do I really need to explain it? No, I can't be bothered! Intelligent members here can understand my point!
WestCoast1
08-13-14, 13:59
Postal and / student ID is OK within the Philippines.
Easy to get postal ID if she has not got.WR, what is the approximate cost for a Postal I'd?
Wicked Roger
08-13-14, 14:18
WR, what is the approximate cost for a Postal I'd?600 to 800 pesos. She will need to provide some documents such as NBI etc but that is cheap. Can get it quickly if she is organized with the paperwork required.
Pip Jaeger
08-13-14, 14:31
SNIP Intelligent members here can understand my point!I ain't that intellygant and even I got it, LOL.
Has anybody checked to see in ABC Hotel is still offering up the helicopter service from NAIA?They still offer it, I was quoted 14 K pesos, but I wouldn't depend on it. Last 2 times I tried it was down due to mechanical reasons.
Only on my first trip a few years back did I use a public bus from the Cubao terminal. It had air-con and wasn't too bad, just took a long time; about 3-4 hours if I recall. Cost was 139 p, plus taxi to the terminal (about 200 p) and then trike from Dau (100 p). The worst part was the trike ride as my suitcase would only fit on the roof of the trike's sidecar; I had to hold on to one side and the driver the other. A real pain in the ass. Never again for me.
Since then I've been using a car service booked via Margarita Station; always on time, late model cars and good drivers at a fair price.
http://www.margaritastation.com/NAIA.html
Postal and / student ID is OK within the Philippines.
Easy to get postal ID if she has not got. Have flown mainly times between Cebu. Davao, Manila and Clark with the odd trip elsewhere in the country and cuties used either I'd easily. Check in together is my advice.I will have her get the postal I'd, but I will also have her get the work I'd. What is confusing is there is nothing on the airlines web sites as to acceptable I'd other saying a photo I'd. I stopped in Air Asia office and asked them and they told me a postal I'd was not acceptable, especially at Clark. Then they didn't know what was acceptable. But they could book my Cebu Pacific tickets for a fee.
WR, thanks for the info and advice.
Wicked Roger
08-13-14, 22:45
What is confusing is there is nothing on the airlines web sites as to acceptable I'd other saying a photo I'd. I.No surprises there except that you were told postal is no good. Strange but maybe a Clark issue (as Clark did have a bad reputation for its officers / counter staff at one time).
Photo ID showing her birthday. I use Cebu Pac mainly and no issues. One cutie used PAK and nothing happened. Is just to make sure the name on the ticket is the same as the person travelling they see at the counter hence the photograph.
The work ID is a good idea also. Passport if she has never fails (but the airline can't tell you what is acceptable LOL).
Chris Long
08-15-14, 11:44
New gogo bar White Wave opened up last night its where the old Spearman's used to be next to Bunny Ranch. Stopped in for a while its ok but nothing special. Had a date with me so I didn't enquire into bar fine prices. The official grand opening is tonight.
Chris
Has anybody checked to see in ABC Hotel is still offering up the helicopter service from NAIA?I inquired about the helicopter for my next trip. They said they don't offer the service in house. They will set up a charter for a third party and quoted me 39,500 php. If anyone has heard differently recently let me know. I heard the old price was around $250, which I was going to do.
ThatGuy865
08-15-14, 21:28
I inquired about the helicopter for my next trip. They said they don't offer the service in house. They will set up a charter for a third party and quoted me 39,500 php. If anyone has heard differently recently let me know. I heard the old price was around $250, which I was going to do.I believe one of the upscale hotels in Manila / Makati offers the service. I met a guy living in Makati a couple of years back that used it.
I'm sure if you google it. There aren't many hotels with copter service in Manila.
What do you guys think? Why did all the companies cancel their direct flights from BKK to Clark? I mean Air Asia isn't an option. It lasts about 9 hours with a stopover. Is it finally because of all those raids still happening which cause that less mongers are going there nowadays?
Love Seeker
08-17-14, 14:01
I am planning on my first trip to the Philippines for about a month in December and January. I am hoping to hook-up with a nice companion in AC and then spend a week in Boracay. Can you fly from Clark to Boracay?
-Thanks.
Check Cebu Pacific. I don't think so.
I am planning on my first trip to the Philippines for about a month in December and January. I am hoping to hook-up with a nice companion in AC and then spend a week in Boracay. Can you fly from Clark to Boracay?
-Thanks..
I am planning on my first trip to the Philippines for about a month in December and January. I am hoping to hook-up with a nice companion in AC and then spend a week in Boracay. Can you fly from Clark to Boracay?
-Thanks.There are no fligt from Clark to Boracay (Caticlan airport). From Manilla you can fly with Cebu Air or PAL Express or Philippine Airlines. Return ticket 100/150 dollar.
I am planning on my first trip to the Philippines for about a month in December and January. I am hoping to hook-up with a nice companion in AC and then spend a week in Boracay. Can you fly from Clark to Boracay?
-Thanks.There's one flight of Cebu Pacific between Clark and Kalibo everyday. That's used to be Tiger Air. But the departing time from Clark is early morning.
Wicked Roger
08-18-14, 15:00
What do you guys think? Why did all the companies cancel their direct flights from BKK to Clark? I mean Air Asia isn't an option. It lasts about 9 hours with a stopover. Is it finally because of all those raids still happening which cause that less mongers are going there nowadays?IMHO nothing to do with raids all to do with economics, load / capacities (putting bums on seats) and the fact that many prefer to be in Manila first. Not everyone want to fly direct to AC (I do only from within the country and that is rare) and the airlines have figured this out by doing the maths and watching their profits fall on these routes.
Mr Enternational
08-18-14, 16:41
IMHO nothing to do with raids all to do with economics, load / capacities (putting bums on seats) and the fact that many prefer to be in Manila first. Not everyone want to fly direct to AC (I do only from within the country and that is rare) and the airlines have figured this out by doing the maths and watching their profits fall on these routes.Exactly. Most people that used to be on the Tiger Air flight to Bangkok were not mongers, but families and couples.
Fast Eddie 48
08-18-14, 21:36
Exactly. Most people that used to be on the Tiger Air flight to Bangkok were not mongers, but families and couples.To Mr Enternational.
I fly Tiger air and Cebu pacific about 5 time the last 4 yr from Clark to Bangkok DM is too bad they discontinue that route not sure if they will fly this route again soon, not a big deal just go to Manila but the air fare is twice as much.
Fast eddie 48.
Jack Burton
08-20-14, 05:17
Ha ha, she probably saw one of the multitude of spy shows where intelligence sources are referred to as 'assets'.My guess is that she meant a little donkey.
Last night around 8:00 PM, I was going into the 7-11 next to Manson Drugs, a middle-aged man dressed in a nice suit was going in ahead of me. He was about 6' 1", 185 lbs, dark complexion and appeared to be in good physical shape. Well mannered as he held the door open for me. Quite frankly that was the first person I have seen in a suit in AC!
As I was leaving 7-11, I noticed him talking to a few girls outside. Pretty soon more girls were flirting at him and some verbally saying Hello, to him! Some of these shy girls were going all out to meet him. Theses girls were not FL but looked like civvies. I have never seen a scene like this in Phils.
My takeaway from this.
1. Nice clothes gets their attention.
2. Good physical condition gets their attention.
3. You don't need to be white to get their attention. I even saw a couple white skinned girls flirting with him.
4. You don't need blue eyes either.
Tall, dark and handsome works here too. Too bad I am neither!
Tall, dark and handsome works here too. So it was Barack Obama taking a closer look at the situation in this god forbidden place in person, LOL?
Pip Jaeger
08-21-14, 11:48
So it was Barack Obama taking a closer look at the situation in this god forbidden place in person, LOL?DG said "tall, dark AND handsome"; comrade president O is only tall and dark IMHO, LOL.
Pinaypounder
08-21-14, 18:05
Last night around 8:00 PM, I was going into the 7-11 next to Manson Drugs, a middle-aged man dressed in a nice suit was going in ahead of me. He was about 6' 1", 185 lbs, dark complexion and appeared to be in good physical shape. Well mannered as he held the door open for me. Quite frankly that was the first person I have seen in a suit in AC!
As I was leaving 7-11, I noticed him talking to a few girls outside. Pretty soon more girls were flirting at him and some verbally saying Hello, to him! Some of these shy girls were going all out to meet him. Theses girls were not FL but looked like civvies. I have never seen a scene like this in Phils.
My takeaway from this.
1. Nice clothes gets their attention.
2. Good physical condition gets their attention.
3. You don't need to be white to get their attention. I even saw a couple white skinned girls flirting with him.
4. You don't need blue eyes either.
Tall, dark and handsome works here too. Too bad I am neither!We have some readers here that I would suggest are of the Cave man type meaning, "***** grunt, come, grunt, suck dick, I pay, grunt grunt and of course this can be found and true to the saying money can buy anything.
For me getting laid in asia is a combination of A, I have the necassary funds to support my quest and B, I don't look completely horrible as I am always clean and well dressed, I have worn a suit in the Phils for Business and then the afterwards part and YEAH it helps big time and the same rules apply here at home.
Freebies are everywhere in the phils with a little game and effort. The best for me was one day riding the MRT in a suit, legitimate business ventures, chatted to a girl who was a masseuse, next morning she showed up at 9 am and left 2 pm ish well shagged.
When in a competitive environment you get the better talent 2 ways, 1: you pay or 2: you are more worth it/desirable than the rest of the field.
You get the BEST sex by being a good lover and giving as well as receiving.
Yes we can look like shit, never bathe, dress like a bum bruch our teeth once a week and get laid but WHY? YUCK
Why not make it an enjoyable event for your partner also??.
Also my recommendation, the 2nd day with a lady is always at least 35% better than the first time. I repeat OFTEN because I actually enjoy sex more than the getting of sex!
PP.
ThatGuy865
08-21-14, 21:21
Last night around 8:00 PM, I was going into the 7-11 next to Manson Drugs, a middle-aged man dressed in a nice suit was going in ahead of me. He was about 6' 1", 185 lbs, dark complexion and appeared to be in good physical shape. Well mannered as he held the door open for me. Quite frankly that was the first person I have seen in a suit in AC!
As I was leaving 7-11, I noticed him talking to a few girls outside. Pretty soon more girls were flirting at him and some verbally saying Hello, to him! Some of these shy girls were going all out to meet him. Theses girls were not FL but looked like civvies. I have never seen a scene like this in Phils.
My takeaway from this.
1. Nice clothes gets their attention.
2. Good physical condition gets their attention.
3. You don't need to be white to get their attention. I even saw a couple white skinned girls flirting with him.
4. You don't need blue eyes either.
Tall, dark and handsome works here too. Too bad I am neither!Never wore a suit. Have had up to 5 girls at a time. They always text for repeat. I have seen several Koreans in suits.
If its a guys style. No big deal. But is it necessary or makes a difference. I'd say no.
I know a guy. I thought was homeless when I first met him he was so poorly dressed. But damn if he didn't have plenty of girls constantly on his nutt sacks.
To each his own. There is no right or wrong in the PI. That's what makes it one of the top monger locations. Everyone and anyone can score.
This is a competitive environment? Against who? Trike drivers? I haven't worn a suit since October 31,2013, the day I retired, and have no intention of wearing one again anytime the foreseeable future. I have a couple of suits upstairs and don't even know why I brought them here. I wore suits for 32 years before I came to the Philippines. I guess the guys that work here though have to wear them, sometimes so excuse me if I'm coming off as unfair.
ForceSteeler
08-22-14, 02:20
Last night around 8:00 PM, I was going into the 7-11 next to Manson Drugs, a middle-aged man dressed in a nice suit was going in ahead of me. He was about 6' 1", 185 lbs, dark complexion and appeared to be in good physical shape. Well mannered as he held the door open for me. Quite frankly that was the first person I have seen in a suit in AC!
As I was leaving 7-11, I noticed him talking to a few girls outside. Pretty soon more girls were flirting at him and some verbally saying Hello, to him! Some of these shy girls were going all out to meet him. Theses girls were not FL but looked like civvies. I have never seen a scene like this in Phils.
My takeaway from this.
1. Nice clothes gets their attention.
2. Good physical condition gets their attention.
3. You don't need to be white to get their attention. I even saw a couple white skinned girls flirting with him.
4. You don't need blue eyes either.
Tall, dark and handsome works here too. Too bad I am neither!You don't need a suit, The only thing that matters is GreenBacks. And also just make sure you take care of hygiene. Take a nice Bath and you will be ok.
Greenbacks is all that matters in Angeles City. You don't need a suit or try to do anything special to impress these bar girls, because at the end of the day your paying them anyways. The guy that wears the suit and the guy that does not wear a suit. Pays the same bar fine price!.
This is a competitive environment? Against who? Trike drivers? I haven't worn a suit since October 31,2013, the day I retired, and have no intention of wearing one again anytime the foreseeable future. I have a couple of suits upstairs and don't even know why I brought them here. I wore suits for 32 years before I came to the Philippines. I guess the guys that work here though have to wear them, sometimes so excuse me if I'm coming off as unfair.This is a rather incongruous topic for the AC thread as it would be very unusual to see anyone (westerner anyway) prowling around AC in a suit but he would sure stand out.
I have worked in the Phils for 17 years now. I brought 3 suits with me and I have worn them in country exactly 2 times (one suit has never been worn in that time. Luckily they all still fit). I only ever wear them when I have business in some adjacent SE Asian countries where suits are still expected (silly as it is).
On one of the 2 occasions that I wore a suit I was at a Manila-based international conference and a visiting Aussie friend and I went to Greenbelt for a look and then to Burgos street for a crawl whilst still wearing our suits plus neck ties.
I must say that having been regularly in both venues on numerous occasions dressed in neat casual, I was blown away by the added attention that we gained wearing the suits. Cafe Havana was unbelievable; it was nothing like it had been for me previously.
This is purely for the record and is in no way an advisory for ANYONE to pack a suit when planning your mongering vacation.
All I can say is that if you haven't got much else going for you in the looks department then wearing a suit (or even a sports jacket) will increase your chances more than 100%.
That is not saying anything against the guys in the shorts, flipflops and wife-beater tops and wearing a baseball cap. You will score too no doubt, but you will have to try harder.
Streetlooker
08-22-14, 08:11
They come running just has fast has they can. Women go crazy for a sharp dressed man.
I was blown away by the added attention that we gained wearing the suits. Cafe Havana was unbelievable; it was nothing like it had been for me previously..Hmm, ok. I'll be wearing a suit for a conference in Malate in November. Not that I've ever had trouble getting laid there but I hope to report similar results. Hopefully I can finally meet you then, RK. I have always appreciated your insights and advice.
Thanks for everyone's' input. Filipina made it to Cebu from Clark with me using her Postal I the without any problems. The checkin girl at CP looked over the I'd more intensely than the security people. LOL.
ThatGuy865
08-22-14, 18:35
I would say wearing a suit has nothing to do with the girls liking "A sharp dressed" man.
I'd say the girls look at a guy wearing a suit. And think he definitely has money and willing to spend it. 100% a business traveler w / a good chance staying in a nice hotel with an expense account. As they probably never or rarely meet a tourist who brings a suit to the PI.
The girls don't think he looks any better. They are thinking that his wallet is fatter and easier to open.
It's sort of like the guy who pulls up in a LAMBO in the USA. Girls don't think he's better looking. They figure his wallet is fatter.
I would say wearing a suit has nothing to do with the girls liking "A sharp dressed" man.
I'd say the girls look at a guy wearing a suit. And think he definitely has money and willing to spend it. 100% a business traveler w / a good chance staying in a nice hotel with an expense account. As they probably never or rarely meet a tourist who brings a suit to the PI.
The girls don't think he looks any better. They are thinking that his wallet is fatter and easier to open.
It's sort of like the guy who pulls up in a LAMBO in the USA. Girls don't think he's better looking. They figure his wallet is fatter.You have actually confirmed what I said originally about girls being MORE attracted to a guy wearing a suit or driving a LAMBO than any other guy, irrespective of whether he is "better-looking" or not.
They assume he has money or at least a good high-level job.
Girls also assume that any foreigner out for the night but dressed for the beach has money too.
Whether anyone has a fatter wallet and is more inclined to open it is up to each individual alone, no matter what any woman might assume. Sometimes the poorly-dressed guy is also inclined to throw money around too. The girl doesn't know until she has some contact with a guy (well-dressed or not).
Everything depends on what happens AFTER you make the initial contact with each other.
I still stand by my earlier contention that well-dressed guys or WDGs (wearing a suit is the extreme) make more INITIAL contacts and it happens more easily than do guys dressed badly.
The WDG is also more likely to meet a better class of girl. Not always, but more likely.
Note that at no stage did I say that badly-dressed guys will NOT get laid. I am merely offering a POV based on my experiences.
ThatGuy865
08-23-14, 14:52
I still stand by my earlier contention that well-dressed guys or WDGs (wearing a suit is the extreme) make more INITIAL contacts and it happens more easily than do guys dressed badly.If a guy looks like he has more money than the next guy. Be it by wearing nice clothes, gold and jewelry, a nice car. He'll attract more women. That is true all over the world. That is obvious. I don't think anyone disputes that.
What I was trying to say. Is even the bad dress guy gets a lot of options in the PI.
I see it as. Both step into the bar. Bad dressed guy has 10 to 20 girls willing to be with him. Suit guy 40. Either way they both have plenty.
ThatGuy865
08-23-14, 17:06
take a poorly dressed (flip flops, and shorts) guy. drape him in gold chains and jewelry. and he will attract the same number and quality of women as the guy in the suit.
which means it isn't the nice appearance that is attracting the girls. its the idea the girls think they have money.
whether or not either spend money on the girls. the girls will flock to both.
take a poorly dressed (flip flops, and shorts) guy. drape him in gold chains and jewelry. and he will attract the same number and quality of women as the guy in the suit.
which means it isn't the nice appearance that is attracting the girls. its the idea the girls think they have money.
whether or not either spend money on the girls. the girls will flock to both.tg 865.
you are flogging the same point to death. we both agree. no need to go on and on making the same point.
btw, any guy draped in gold chains and jewellery will attract a large crowd of low-life scum eager to relieve him of his goods by whatever means possible, and usually involving guns and knives.
Hahaha no wife beaters here RK. Strictly golf shirts.
LordBastian
08-30-14, 14:59
Why has everything gone silent? No news is bad news. I'll make some news in a few weeks when I'm there again for the 13th time in 2 years. I will have reports for us all. Maybe nothing as amusing as the sorry Ladd who had a girl pour rubbing alcohol on his member.
Peace & love & happy hunting.
The Lord Bastian.
Pip Jaeger
08-30-14, 15:09
I'll make some news in a few weeks when I'm there again for the 13th time in 2 years. I will have reports for us all.Lucky number 13! Good hunting, don't forget to pack your designer flip-flops!
Back to Angeles for 4th time in 2014! This time for October, November and part of December. Yes!
Why has everything gone silent? No news is bad news. I'll make some news in a few weeks when I'm there again for the 13th time in 2 years. I will have reports for us all. Maybe nothing as amusing as the sorry Ladd who had a girl pour rubbing alcohol on his member.
Peace & love & happy hunting.
The Lord Bastian.Your 13th trip to Angeles in 2 yrs? But firstly where are your reports?
Ok, before I begin a little background, I have been a paid member for 9+ years but I haven't written a field report since 2008 and I believe all my past post have been archived, so I am long overdue. My trips throughout the world have benefited greatly by the extensive knowledge that I gained by using this forum and I thank all of you for your contributions. Field report. I spent 10 months living in Asia and I will post field reports on most of my travels in the next few weeks. This report is on Angles City and specifically Atlantis Bar on fields.
Part 1 I walked in and it was definitely the biggest beer bar I had been to, clean, nice thecor, comfortable seats. I wanted to get the lay of the land so I chose a seat off in the corner on the first floor. On stage it seemed to be like 80 girls dancing, I ordered a beer and asked the hostess how many girls are working tonight. She said between 160 and 180! I thought to myself holy shit. How the hell am I ever going to choose out of so many girls. At this point there are probably around 30 guys in the bar.
So the first girl that I really liked had more of a south american look to her face, I like those features. I called for one of the mamasan's (they seem to dress like the waitresses!) I told her the one I like and she used the red laser to tell her to get off stage. My fantasy quickly turned to frustration. When the chick came off stage to sit with me, it seemed like she was having a bad day or just didn't want to go with me. Before she even sat down the waitress ask me if I want to buy lady drink. I said please let me say Hi and have 1 minute of conversation before I start buying lady drinks! I new within the first 30 seconds this was not a keeper. ICE Queen are the first words that come to mind, it was like she was being forced to even break a little smile and talk to me. No smiling, looking away, it seemed like she couldn't be bothered to be nice to me. Ok, after a minute or two I sent her back on stage, not interested. Ok, I thought to myself I got a lemon on that one, let me try again.
Saw another real cute girl this one had more of a tradition Chinese face with pale skin. She comes over and at least she actually smiled when she sat down. I told her I liked her and wanted to bar fine her. She said "oh sorry, I don't leave bar, you only buy me lady drinks!" I'm like what? I buy you lady drinks and you don't come to my hotel? She said "sorry I stay at bar!" I sent her away, I bring over the Mamasan and ask what the heck is going on here. She said well the girls like to go with Korean and Japanese guys! Ah, ok. So I'm Brazilian / American and, what they don't like me? Just as we are talking, all the girls start running towards the side of the stage, I look up to the 2nd floor and some Korean guys are throwing stacks of money off the 2nd floor balcony! Just like in a rap video these Korean guys are making money "Rain" all over the stage! The girls are going nuts. Hmmm, ok, is this why I keep getting rejected? So you might also be thinking what is wrong with me, morbidly obese?! I'm 30 - fit (4 years in marines), dress well, fresh shave (polo or button down with jeans) kind of guy.
I settle down a bit and now I'm on my 4th beer. I finally decide to try again and choose the tallest girl on stage, very nice rack and good bottom. She sits down. Again less than a second has passed and the waitress is hounding me to buy a lady drink. I said come back in 2 minutes if I like her I will buy 2 lady drinks, anything to get this waitress off my back! This girl is probably the cutest (IMHO) out of the bunch, she rubs my hand and says "I only drinks because I have blood" OMG! Ok, now I'm thinking is this fucking real? Never in all my monger travels, (I have been to P4 P hotspots across the globe) has this shit happened. Did I just spend $1,400 USD to fly half way around the world to get rejected on my first night by 3 bar girls, WTF!? I am so pissed at this point, I really can't stay in this place any longer. I tell the mamasan this is a real interesting place before closing my bar tab and getting the hell out of there. I went across the street to I think Q-Bar (sign said coldest beers), I was sold. Most of the bar girls seem to be very happy to sit, mingle, flirt and drink with me, here. Night and day experience from across the street! I actually bar find the waitress instead of a dancer on stage because she had a very unique look and a nice big bottom. Her name is very weird sounding but it starts with a K or C. If that helps. She was the complete GFE experience, although maybe even to much because she never stopped talking!
WestCoast1
08-31-14, 06:13
Back to Angeles for 4th time in 2014! This time for October, November and part of December. Yes!AC Field Reports big guy? Accommodations, bar review, chica review, restaurant reviews, etc.
WestCoast1
08-31-14, 06:38
Good report. Take my comments with a grain of salt, I don't mean them to be hypercritical. I will also PM you.
Ok, before I begin a little background, I have been a paid member for 9+ years but I haven't written a field report since 2008 and I believe all my past post have been archived, so I am long overdue. Your last post was 2012, and your first of about a dozen shows dating back to 2006, many of which are from central americas.
Field report. I spent 10 months living in Asia and I will post field reports on most of my travels in the next few weeks.This is interesting, given some of your later comments.
On stage it seemed to be like 80 girls dancing, I ordered a beer and asked the hostess how many girls are working tonight. She said between 160 and 180! I thought to myself holy shit. How the hell am I ever going to choose out of so many girls.Amazing, ain't it? All of Forrest Gump's variety in his box of chocolates are represented there at one time. But, as you point out, "you never know what you'll get".
Before she even sat down the waitress ask me if I want to buy lady drink. I said please let me say Hi and have 1 minute of conversation before I start buying lady drinks! Probably SOP in every bar when you show interest in a girl. They want you to buy an overpriced ficha before you have the chance to get rejected by the girl. They have a variety of tactics to part you from your money, none of which you have to be a part of. Live-and-learn.
I new within the first 30 seconds this was not a keeper. ICE Queen are the first words that come to mind, it was like she was being forced to even break a little smile and talk to me. No smiling, looking away, it seemed like she couldn't be bothered to be nice to me. Ok, after a minute or two I sent her back on stage, not interested. Ok, I thought to myself I got a lemon on that one, let me try again.Not a lemmon, maybe more par for the course in big bars. Learn to speak korean, or learn to hit the smaller bars, especially Ponytails and further to Perimeter road.
Just like in a rap video these Korean guys are making money "Rain" all over the stage! The girls are going nuts. Hmmm, ok, is this why I keep getting rejected? So you might also be thinking what is wrong with me, morbidly obese?! I'm 30 - fit (4 years in marines), dress well, fresh shave (polo or button down with jeans) kind of guy.Bet you never thought you'd have competition from other mongers!
I settle down a bit and now I'm on my 4th beer. I finally decide to try again and choose the tallest girl on stage, very nice rack and good bottom. She sits down. Again less than a second has passed and the waitress is hounding me to buy a lady drink. I said come back in 2 minutes if I like her I will buy 2 lady drinks, anything to get this waitress off my back! This girl is probably the cutest (IMHO) out of the bunch, she rubs my hand and says "I only drinks because I have blood" OMG! Ok, now I'm thinking is this fucking real?Maybe its her blood time. Maybe she just didn't like you. Maybe she just goes with ko / jap. It doesn't matter, let it go (as you will never know the reason).
Never in all my monger travels, (I have been to P4 P hotspots across the globe) has this shit happened. Did I just spend $1,400 USD to fly half way around the world to get rejected on my first night by 3 bar girls, WTF!? I am so pissed at this point, I really can't stay in this place any longer. Will PM you.
I went across the street to I think Q-Bar (sign said coldest beers), I was sold. Most of the bar girls seem to be very happy to sit, mingle, flirt and drink with me, here. Night and day experience from across the street! I actually bar find the waitress instead of a dancer on stage because she had a very unique look and a nice big bottom. Her name is very weird sounding but it starts with a K or see. If that helps. She was the complete GFE experience, Excellent!
although maybe even to much because she never stopped talking!Put something in her mouth to stop that. Smile.
LordBastian
08-31-14, 07:37
It was not a complaint. Only a mere observation. You are right, I haven't posted to this thread as much as I should or could've. I will change that. There was really nothing I felt was worth reporting. I haven't been ripped off there. I've gone to the major spots and down perimeter. I guess I could say that if you want some inexpensive beer you could go to Wishing Well. The only problem is the music is too loud at times. And Bruno and Diego is a cool spot but there's never a crowd. Hacienda is full with local college kids. I wish the old see Italiano did burn down. Al Bashio Italian is as good if not better.
I apologize for being perhaps part of the problem and not the solution. Furthermore, I have come to realize I have neglected this forum as compared to the other places I've reported on. Thanks at Sxxxx for the callout. I guess we all could use a wake up call every once and again. Take care and happy hunting.
Maximus,
I see another ISGer has bored into the various points. And I wonder what that is all about.
All I can I say is. Welcome to Atlantis. . The No. 1 Bullshit Bar in AC. You got the typical song and dance from the er, ahem, "dancers" . I'm on mens, yada yada.
I'm dating myself here, but three or so years ago I was trying to BF one of the denizens, who explained to me that, no, she was not available as that night was her (Filipino) boyfriend's birthday and that she intended to spend the evening with him. I asked the girlfriend whether the BF knew that she was plying her trade in Atlantis, and she laughed and said "no! Dumb Pinoy, dumber BF.
And this all before I got a padded bar bill and nearly mixed it up with the bouncers in that shithole.
Atlantis is, and apparently remains, bullshit. Do Avoid.
Plenty of other decent bars, and willing fillies, to be had.
Chris Long
09-01-14, 00:27
Ok, before I begin a little background, I have been a paid member for 9+ years but I haven't written a field report since 2008 and I believe all my past post have been archived, so I am long overdue. My trips throughout the world have benefited greatly by the extensive knowledge that I gained by using this forum and I thank all of you for your contributions. Field report. I spent 10 months living in Asia and I will post field reports on most of my travels in the next few weeks. This report is on Angles City and specifically Atlantis Bar on fields.
Part 1 I walked in and it was definitely the biggest beer bar I had been to, clean, nice thecor, comfortable seats. I wanted to get the lay of the land so I chose a seat off in the corner on the first floor. On stage it seemed to be like 80 girls dancing, I ordered a beer and asked the hostess how many girls are working tonight. She said between 160 and 180! I thought to myself holy shit. How the hell am I ever going to choose out of so many girls. At this point there are probably around 30 guys in the bar...Your experience if very common in AC get used to it this is going to happen to you again and again what happened to you is not unusual. Your sentiment is also very common I thought the same thing. I just spent upwards of a grand was packed like a sardine in a can for a full day to come all the way over here and receive this. I was there for three months and was one for five out of Atlantis. Only one of five girls that I tried talking to would agree to let me bar fine her and I had actually met her earlier at the Scorebird pool party.
You will also run into many other bars that are similar to Atlantis. But on the good side you will also run into many bars that similar to Q bar.
I was there for three months and had some dismal absolutely dismal experiences of rejection from many of these girls, picking up gogo bar girls is a little like trying to meet regular girls at a regular disco. That is you want to try to look your best smell your best and put on your best charm offensive and be as nice and polite and funny as you can be.
Towards the end of my trip I seemed to have some pretty good success at almost all of the bars but I think that is because I was there for so long, three months, that I became somewhat of a recognized accepted regular figure and they came to accept me better.
Best of luck.
Chris
Streetlooker
09-01-14, 03:42
Ok, before I begin a little background, I have been a paid member for 9+ years but I haven't written a field report since 2008 and I believe all my past post have been archived, so I am long overdue. My trips throughout the world have benefited greatly by the extensive knowledge that I gained by using this forum and I thank all of you for your contributions. Field report. I spent 10 months living in Asia and I will post field reports on most of my travels in the next few weeks. This report is on Angles City and specifically Atlantis Bar on fields.
Part 1 I walked in and it was definitely the biggest beer bar I had been to, clean, nice thecor, comfortable seats. I wanted to get the lay of the land so I chose a seat off in the corner on the first floor. On stage it seemed to be like 80 girls dancing, I ordered a beer and asked the hostess how many girls are working tonight. She said between 160 and 180! I thought to myself holy shit. How the hell am I ever going to choose out of so many girls. At this point there are probably around 30 guys in the bar.
So the first girl that I really liked had more of a south american look to her face, I like those features. I called for one of the mamasan's (they seem to dress like the waitresses!) I told her the one I like and she used the red laser to tell her to get off stage. My fantasy quickly turned to frustration. When the chick came off stage to sit with me, it seemed like she was having a bad day or just didn't want to go with me. Before she even sat down the waitress ask me if I want to buy lady drink. I said please let me say Hi and have 1 minute of conversation before I start buying lady drinks! I new within the first 30 seconds this was not a keeper. ICE Queen are the first words that come to mind, it was like she was being forced to even break a little smile and talk to me. No smiling, looking away, it seemed like she couldn't be bothered to be nice to me. Ok, after a minute or two I sent her back on stage, not interested. Ok, I thought to myself I got a lemon on that one, let me try again.
Saw another real cute girl this one had more of a tradition Chinese face with pale skin. She comes over and at least she actually smiled when she sat down. I told her I liked her and wanted to bar fine her. She said "oh sorry, I don't leave bar, you only buy me lady drinks!" I'm like what? I buy you lady drinks and you don't come to my hotel? She said "sorry I stay at bar!" I sent her away, I bring over the Mamasan and ask what the heck is going on here. She said well the girls like to go with Korean and Japanese guys! Ah, ok. So I'm Brazilian / American and, what they don't like me? Just as we are talking, all the girls start running towards the side of the stage, I look up to the 2nd floor and some Korean guys are throwing stacks of money off the 2nd floor balcony! Just like in a rap video these Korean guys are making money "Rain" all over the stage! The girls are going nuts. Hmmm, ok, is this why I keep getting rejected? So you might also be thinking what is wrong with me, morbidly obese?! I'm 30 - fit (4 years in marines), dress well, fresh shave (polo or button down with jeans) kind of guy.
I settle down a bit and now I'm on my 4th beer. I finally decide to try again and choose the tallest girl on stage, very nice rack and good bottom. She sits down. Again less than a second has passed and the waitress is hounding me to buy a lady drink. I said come back in 2 minutes if I like her I will buy 2 lady drinks, anything to get this waitress off my back! This girl is probably the cutest (IMHO) out of the bunch, she rubs my hand and says "I only drinks because I have blood" OMG! Ok, now I'm thinking is this fucking real? Never in all my monger travels, (I have been to P4 P hotspots across the globe) has this shit happened. Did I just spend $1,400 USD to fly half way around the world to get rejected on my first night by 3 bar girls, WTF!? I am so pissed at this point, I really can't stay in this place any longer. I tell the mamasan this is a real interesting place before closing my bar tab and getting the hell out of there. I went across the street to I think Q-Bar (sign said coldest beers), I was sold. Most of the bar girls seem to be very happy to sit, mingle, flirt and drink with me, here. Night and day experience from across the street! I actually bar find the waitress instead of a dancer on stage because she had a very unique look and a nice big bottom. Her name is very weird sounding but it starts with a K or C. If that helps. She was the complete GFE experience, although maybe even to much because she never stopped talking!This bar experience here is why I never Bother going to the big bars Unless its with a already BF girl cause the ice queens are abundant. Small bars are better.
Pip Jaeger
09-01-14, 10:51
This bar experience here is why I never Bother going to the big bars Unless its with a already BF girl cause the ice queens are abundant. Small bars are better.Generally speaking I agree with you that the girls in the smaller bars are more affable and you can have a better time in them (pun intended), but I wouldn't rule out the bigger bars entirely. I had success and pulled hotties from two of the larger bars on my last visit; one each from Crystal Palace and Dollhouse respectively.
But I do agree 100% that Atlantis is, and has been for quite some time, a bar that caters to Koreans and Japanese. Like you (and I suspect many others too) I won't go in there unless I'm with a girl who wants to see the place or if they're hosting one of the dance competitions, which can be great fun and entertainment. As far as I'm concerned, if the K-poppers and 3 minute men want Atlantis, they can have it (just wish they'd stay there, LOL) as there are still plenty of other bars / venues for the rest of us.
There was some discussions a while back about this but I can't remember the details. I booked a RT ticket for Filipina friend from Clark to Cebu and back on Cebu Pacific with my credit card. Does she need a copy of my credit card to check in and board? She will be traveling alone.
Geneva Guy
09-01-14, 15:57
There was some discussions a while back about this but I can't remember the details. I booked a RT ticket for Filipina friend from Clark to Cebu and back on Cebu Pacific with my credit card. Does she need a copy of my credit card to check in and board? She will be traveling alone.My understanding the answer is yes. That is why when I bring Filipinas from PHIL to Singapore I book Singapore air or silk air as they don't have that requirement. Yes more expensive the I don't want to turn over my credit card info to anyone, esp a Filipina hehehe.
GG
WestCoast1
09-01-14, 19:07
There was some discussions a while back about this but I can't remember the details. I booked a RT ticket for Filipina friend from Clark to Cebu and back on Cebu Pacific with my credit card. Does she need a copy of my credit card to check in and board? She will be traveling alone.It said on the CP website when I booked a similar flight for my girl that the non-paying passenger would need a copy of the CC when boarding if the CC owner was not present. I scanned the front side and sent it to the girl. In the province airport, she was not asked for it. But at the domestic airport in Manila, when returning home, she was asked to show it.
Roger, thoughts?
Streetlooker
09-01-14, 23:52
Generally speaking I agree with you that the girls in the smaller bars are more affable and you can have a better time in them (pun intended), but I wouldn't rule out the bigger bars entirely. I had success and pulled hotties from two of the larger bars on my last visit; one each from Crystal Palace and Dollhouse respectively.
But I do agree 100% that Atlantis is, and has been for quite some time, a bar that caters to Koreans and Japanese. Like you (and I suspect many others too) I won't go in there unless I'm with a girl who wants to see the place or if they're hosting one of the dance competitions, which can be great fun and entertainment. As far as I'm concerned, if the K-poppers and 3 minute men want Atlantis, they can have it (just wish they'd stay there, LOL) as there are still plenty of other bars / venues for the rest of us.I don't rule out the bigger bars except Dollhouse and Atlantis cause I think both cater to the Koreans or Japanese mostly. However you must go up in price a bit to get a hottie out of Tropix Forbidden city (Name change I think) TAO? Or Crystal palace over a girl from a mid size like LaBamba Insomnia Honeypot or Bunny Ranch. 500 to 1000 more most likely on your BF bill. All about your budget and how frugal you want to be. If money no object you just go 6000 for a Atlantis ice queen she will loosen up then maybe?? Ha ha ha! Now for max savings go daytime to places like foxy honeykos or candybar and you get a good regular to ave girl for 1500 that will appreciate you more and you can take her barhopping to Atlantis and have a blast. Its all fun in AC.
Wicked Roger
09-02-14, 06:12
It said on the CP website when I booked a similar flight for my girl that the non-paying passenger would need a copy of the CC when boarding if the CC owner was not present. I scanned the front side and sent it to the girl. In the province airport, she was not asked for it. But at the domestic airport in Manila, when returning home, she was asked to show it.
Roger, thoughts?I always book Cebu Pacific using a credit card and the girl has never been asked to show a copy of it, just ID. Now PAL does ask always and it is a pain in the backside but what can we do? It may state that but IMHO and experience it has never once asked for that.
If anyone has recent information (ie this week etc) that changes this please share as last month there was no issues.
why has everything gone silent? no news is bad news. i'll make some news in a few weeks when i'm there again for the 13th time in 2 years. i will have reports for us all. maybe nothing as amusing as the sorry ladd who had a girl pour rubbing alcohol on his member.
peace & love & happy hunting.
the lord bastian.business as usual. as a small piece of news, my brown sugar regular sent me a concerning text the other day that she was in hospital. courtesy of a customer. when i arrived i saw her covered in bruises, face almost beaten to a pulp & both eyes almost closed up with purple selling. the girl's crime was she refused to bare back an american guy & he went postal on her. hotel called the ambulance to get her to safety, american guy walks away scot free. this girl has two young children dependent on her. when she did not arrive home at the end of her shift the babies were left without food / [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) or any adult supervision. she is out of work until she recovers from her injuries, no way to pay for food / rent / utilities. did the bar offer help? nope. these women put up with a lot of shit. it's amazing they can do the job at all.
av.
Maximus,
I see another ISGer has bored into the various points. And I wonder what that is all about.
All I can I say is. Welcome to Atlantis. . The No. 1 Bullshit Bar in AC. You got the typical song and dance from the er, ahem, "dancers" . I'm on mens, yada yada.
I'm dating myself here, but three or so years ago I was trying to BF one of the denizens, who explained to me that, no, she was not available as that night was her (Filipino) boyfriend's birthday and that she intended to spend the evening with him. I asked the girlfriend whether the BF knew that she was plying her trade in Atlantis, and she laughed and said "no! Dumb Pinoy, dumber BF.
And this all before I got a padded bar bill and nearly mixed it up with the bouncers in that shithole.
Atlantis is, and apparently remains, bullshit. Do Avoid.
Plenty of other decent bars, and willing fillies, to be had.There is no hard & fast rules to this. I regularly take out one of these girls (and her cherry girl pal) and have a great time with them. I experience women from the full range of bars from the top to the. Shall we say 'less top' up the road on perimeter. I enjoy all of them. Some cost less but I don't fixate on price so much. On the subject of ROK's my Gecko's regular took me to a new small bar that specialises in catering to ROK's to visit a friend of hers (I forget the name of the bar). A small narrow bar with just enough room for a high stage populated with extremely bored looking Pinay's identically dressed in those stupid KPOP anime outfits. The ROK's all sit on stools along the wall opposite the stage. They all sat together looking dour & talking amongst themselves sitting on drinks & kinda scowling at the girls. I got lots of big thousand watt smiles from the dancers. I was there quite a while (gecko's girl can really talk, man). The dancers looked like they hated being there for the most part.
AV.
Parasitius
09-02-14, 10:12
Did I just spend $1,400 USD to fly half way around the world to get rejected on my first night by 3 bar girls, WTF!? I am so pissed at this point, I really can't stay in this place any longer. I felt bad for you reading your story! However, just when I start to get a little egotistical about the girls that are hot and insanely into me (stalker level) or the Korean-only girls who make an exception for me, reality knocks me off my high horse with a medium-pretty girl who won't give me the time of day. Don't take it personal man -! That's how you ruin your trip, shrug it off and try another bar. I think of it as a huge bonus that girls show disinterest rather than faking interest. Because when you get into bed later you'll feel that she's pretending just for the money and lose your wood. By sticking to the girls that respond to me, I can get 10/10 success passionate ladies into the sack. Other countries it is hit and miss because they all seem interested when only a fraction are genuinely interested.
Here is my tip I started following this trip (last day of 13 today): I only call girls down from stage if they are eye-fucking me FROM the stage already. I might have to stare and smile at them for 10 minutes before we match eye contact and our eyes lock, others will ignore me totally, but this saves me from EVER wasting a ladies' drink. If the only ones that don't interest me REFUSE to make awesome eye-contact from stage, I pay my 100 peso drink only and move along quickly to the next bar. You are in no danger of running out of bars so keep moving!!
what's the name of the hospital? did you take her picture? you seem sure about her story, but a drunk trike driver/ bf makes more sense to me. let me guess, she knows you don't like americans. i would feel sad to hear this story if i didn't already know that av is prone to exaggeration and unsubstantiated internet hyperbole.
business as usual. as a small piece of news, my brown sugar regular sent me a concerning text the other day that she was in hospital. courtesy of a customer. when i arrived i saw her covered in bruises, face almost beaten to a pulp & both eyes almost closed up with purple selling. the girl's crime was she refused to bare back an american guy & he went postal on her. hotel called the ambulance to get her to safety, american guy walks away scot free. this girl has two young children dependent on her. when she did not arrive home at the end of her shift the babies were left without food / [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) or any adult supervision. she is out of work until she recovers from her injuries, no way to pay for food / rent / utilities. did the bar offer help? nope. these women put up with a lot of shit. it's amazing they can do the job at all.
av.
business as usual. as a small piece of news, my brown sugar regular sent me a concerning text the other day that she was in hospital. courtesy of a customer. when i arrived i saw her covered in bruises, face almost beaten to a pulp & both eyes almost closed up with purple selling. the girl's crime was she refused to bare back an american guy & he went postal on her. hotel called the ambulance to get her to safety, american guy walks away scot free. this girl has two young children dependent on her. when she did not arrive home at the end of her shift the babies were left without food / [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) or any adult supervision. she is out of work until she recovers from her injuries, no way to pay for food / rent / utilities. did the bar offer help? nope. these women put up with a lot of shit. it's amazing they can do the job at all.
av.i am wondering if the us might prosecute if the assault and battery is reported to them. she should remember the name of hotel, room number and the exact date of it to locate the person. also full documentation of the assault and injuries to build a case. i would hate to see someone get away with this. pm me if i can be of any help. also her name and hospital if i can be of some help. i am in ac until september 8. having a lawyer to press this would be most helpful.
I am wondering if the US might prosecute if the assault and battery is reported to them. She should remember the name of hotel, room number and the exact date of it to locate the person. Also full documentation of the assault and injuries to build a case. I would hate to see someone get away with this. PM me if I can be of any help. Also her name and hospital if I can be of some help. I am in AC until September 8. Having a lawyer to press this would be most helpful.The sad reality is that the USA won't prosecute in a case like this as its a simple constitutional fact that the man has the right to face his accuser and cross examine her. If you don't believe me, just ask Bathhouse Barry, the "professor of constitutional law. " The assailant would be tried in an American court and the USA would have to transport her to the USA to testify against the accused. Then, when she fails to show up for her return flight, we have yet another Filipino on an "undocumented overstay. " As opposed to others involved in recent events, at least she speaks the language.
On a more serious note, any degree of due diligence by the AC police would reveal the guy's identity. Another simple call to the U.S. Embassy could be made by the asking for immediate follow up on whether the guy has returned to USA. If he hasn't, he could have a major legal problem here in the Philippines.
Carlos3000
09-02-14, 15:07
The sad reality is that the USA won't prosecute in a case like this as its a simple constitutional fact that the man has the right to face his accuser and cross examine her. If you don't believe me, just ask Bathhouse Barry, the "professor of constitutional law. " If true, sad story indeed. Pardon my ignorance, who is Bathhouse Barry?
If true, sad story indeed. Pardon my ignorance, who is Bathhouse Barry?When Obama lived in Indonesia, his name was Barry Sotero. In Chicago, before he was elevated from being a community organizer to United States Senator (who only stayed in that position for 164 days before announcing his plan to run for the presidency), he was well known to have frequented the Chicago bath houses. Hence, Bath House Barry.
What's the name of the hospital? Did you take her picture? You seem sure about her story, but a drunk trike driver/ bf makes more sense to me. Let me guess, she knows you don't like Americans. I would feel sad to hear this story if I didn't already know that AV is prone to exaggeration and unsubstantiated Internet hyperbole.Excuse me, this girl is a regular from Brown Sugar. I attended the hospital & helped this girl. Your comments are totally out of line. I expect an immediate apology.
AV.
business as usual. as a small piece of news, my brown sugar regular sent me a concerning text the other day that she was in hospital. courtesy of a customer. when i arrived i saw her covered in bruises, face almost beaten to a pulp & both eyes almost closed up with purple selling. the girl's crime was she refused to bare back an american guy & he went postal on her. hotel called the ambulance to get her to safety, american guy walks away scot free. this girl has two young children dependent on her. when she did not arrive home at the end of her shift the babies were left without food / [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) or any adult supervision. she is out of work until she recovers from her injuries, no way to pay for food / rent / utilities. did the bar offer help? nope. these women put up with a lot of shit. it's amazing they can do the job at all.
av.not questioning your story, but two things do not add up. first, an ambulance and second, the hotel did not call the police? no filipino would miss collecting from a foreigner.
robb.
I am wondering if the US might prosecute if the assault and battery is reported to them. She should remember the name of hotel, room number and the exact date of it to locate the person. Also full documentation of the assault and injuries to build a case. I would hate to see someone get away with this. PM me if I can be of any help. Also her name and hospital if I can be of some help. I am in AC until September 8. Having a lawyer to press this would be most helpful.Thank you for the offer. This _is_ the Philippines we are talking about don't forget. I came into this picture at the 'I'm in hospital, help me' stage. In the midst of dealing with her immediate needs coping with her medical treatment & abandoned kids I did my best to get some facts from her about the guy. She says he's American but he could be Canadian for all we know. Bars don't ask for passports. Were the police called, she says no. I followed up with the hotel who were extremely vague & suspicious, but confirmed the assault, they say yes police were called but arrived after she was taken to hospital. Did the police visit her in hospital to get a statement, she says no. The hotel certainly was not going to divulge details of the guy to me. It's all swept under the carpet. I've tried to help this girl out without getting too deeply involved. One learns to observe boundaries, there is a lot of need out there & I'm not UNHCR.
AV.
Not questioning your story, but two things do not add up. First, an ambulance and second, the hotel did not call the police? No Filipino would miss collecting from a foreigner.
Robb.One uses the term ambulance loosely in the PI. In her state I guess she was'nt in the best condition to observe precisely what kind of vehicle it was. The police issue I've addressed in another post. I'm relying on what she & the hotel tell me which admittedly is not very much. Philippine crime scenes are a bit of a spectator event as anyone who has been around one can attest. I tried asking the guards & housekeeping but I am not in a position to stride around playing detective. I'm sure it was a customer not a local according to the little I could gather. At this point I have to step back & leave it at that.
AV.
One uses the term ambulance loosely in the PI. In her state I guess she was'nt in the best condition to observe precisely what kind of vehicle it was. The police issue I've addressed in another post. I'm relying on what she & the hotel tell me which admittedly is not very much. Philippine crime scenes are a bit of a spectator event as anyone who has been around one can attest. I tried asking the guards & housekeeping but I am not in a position to stride around playing detective. I'm sure it was a customer not a local according to the little I could gather. At this point I have to step back & leave it at that.
AV.Thanks for the reply. Two weeks ago there was a small incident with a bar girl in Subic and the PNP demanded 30,000 P to let the monger go, so I can't believe the PNP would pass on a girl getting beat. She should have called the PNP, if she was beat as bad as you say, she could of collected a few thousand pesos and the SOB deserved to pay.
Robb.
Thanks for the reply. Two weeks ago there was a small incident with a bar girl in Subic and the PNP demanded 30,000 P to let the monger go, so I can't believe the PNP would pass on a girl getting beat. She should have called the PNP, if she was beat as bad as you say, she could of collected a few thousand pesos and the SOB deserved to pay.
Robb.This is complicated by the girls personality. Some of them are very open about their work do & some are deathly scared of exposure. I know from past experience this girl falls into the latter category. I would not be at all surprised that she is not co-operating with the cops. Missed a windfall but its her life.
AV.
Not questioning your story, but two things do not add up. First, an ambulance and second, the hotel did not call the police? No Filipino would miss collecting from a foreigner.Could be situation with a USA military enlistee cretin.
One uses the term ambulance loosely in the PI. In her state I guess she was'nt in the best condition to observe precisely what kind of vehicle it was. The police issue I've addressed in another post. I'm relying on what she & the hotel tell me which admittedly is not very much. Philippine crime scenes are a bit of a spectator event as anyone who has been around one can attest. I tried asking the guards & housekeeping but I am not in a position to stride around playing detective. I'm sure it was a customer not a local according to the little I could gather. At this point I have to step back & leave it at that.
AV.Too bad she will let this guy get away with it. She has a good chance of recovering her cost and lost salary. But in the end it is up to her. AV, it looks like you took care of the hospital bills. Understandable she wants to keep this quiet from family and friends but I think she can collect discreetly.
The hotel certainly was not going to divulge details of the guy to me. It's all swept under the carpet. Smart hotel policy. Got to respect that!
You seem sure about her story, but a drunk trike driver/ bf makes more sense to me.The story sure sounds fantastic, and you go to remember that filipinas are master liars.
The story sure sounds fantastic, and you go to remember that filipinas are master liars.I would say they are compulsive liars; I would not agree they are master liars. You'd think with all the practice they'd improve. Once the lie is exposed everything quickly unravels and they don't do damage control well. I reckon this topic is better suited to Filipinas - Opinions and Advice.
The hotel certainly was not going to divulge details of the guy to me. For a few hundred pesos one of the desk clerks, guards, maids or bell boys surely will do so. I doubt you're inclined to pursue the matter, but for peanuts there's always a way to circumvent the cover up, if one indeed exists, and obtain info on practically anything.
My "immediate apology" will be dependent on AV posting a hospital receipt.
I thought the AV regular was from Geckos? This Brown Sugar gal was a different "regular", or the same gal who has changed bars? I guess we all have different definitions of "regular".
Someone has suggested that this conversation be moved to another thread - I agree. PLease allow AV to give a response - that will be the end of it for me.
Excuse me, this girl is a regular from Brown Sugar. I attended the hospital & helped this girl. Your comments are totally out of line. I expect an immediate apology.
AV.
My "immediate apology" will be dependent on AV posting a hospital receipt.
I thought the AV regular was from Geckos? This Brown Sugar gal was a different "regular", or the same gal who has changed bars? I guess we all have different definitions of "regular".
Someone has suggested that this conversation be moved to another thread - I agree. PLease allow AV to give a response - that will be the end of it for me.I have regulars from several bars (probably too many LOL). Your insulting remarks are plumbing new lows X man.
AV.
ThatGuy865
09-03-14, 18:36
not to add credibility to av's statement. but i do know that bg's have been beaten and raped. you guys have to be naive at best if you think every guys coming to ac is a nice guy. its attracts some of the lowest elements just as it does regular guys. more so as they feel they can buy their ways out or run away from the law.
i also was taken to a hospital from fields in an ambulance which filipino's called as i was in no shape or knew who to call.
so i am not sure what one means by. they don't understand the term ambulance. they do have them.
you go to remember that filipinas are master liars.No they're not "master liars".
Compulsory liars for sure, but a few check questions later 99% are totally lost in their crappy webs.
Lost track of time here and was on the 28th day of the visa free 30 days. I needed to get the visa extension but the BI offices looked like they are in Clark. I went to Amega Travel Services located in Tune Hotel lobby. Amega has other locations in different hotels. They had it the next day for me. Total cost P3830 including visa. Pretty hassle free and no waiting in lines. Just bring two 2 x2 photos. I got my photos at the photo shop a few doors from Western Union office on Fields by McDonalds. They do 4 instant photos minimum P150. Amega will keep the other 2 photos on file for any future extensions.
I would have never known about the big hassle at the airport upon departure without the visa extension without reading about it here. Thank you members for the info.
Bareback49
09-04-14, 16:43
just got back from a 3 week trip to a c. had a great time, can't wait to go back! wanted to share a bit of travel advise from manila airport for 1st times. i read a report on this forum that from the airport you can pay 20 p for a shuttle bus to pasay terminal and then 150 p for bus to dau and then 100 p for trike to your hotel in angeles city. all this is true but be aware of these issues if you're a newbie.
#1- the shuttle bus from the airport was very crowded and made several stops along the way. none of those stops are announced. so if you don't know which stop is pasay, you're in trouble. also if you're carrying two suitcases and a backpack it's really difficult to move on a crowded bus!
#2- i arrived at the pasay terminal at 1:00 am in the morning. there were lots of buses but you are in a dark crowded alley and to be honest it didn't feel very safe being a white guy with suitcases roaming around trying to find a decent bus to a. see. signs are poor and you are a target. turns out i needed to get the silver line which is across the street from where the shuttle drops you off which requires you to lug all your stuff up and over this seedy looking bridge to the other side.
#3 so i finally got on the bus with all my crap. i'm exhausted and have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). it's a 2.5 hour trip with no bathroom break and many seedy looking people sitting around you. i was actually afraid to fall asleep.
#4 finally get to dau pay 5 p to take a massive [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and then squeeze myself into a really small trike with all my shit to go to my hotel.
my advise. my hotel offered a car service to manila for 2800 p. nice van, picked me up at the hotel and took my right to the terminal i needed. even stopped for a bathroom break 1/2 way. if money is an issue go for the bus but for me the hotel van is the way to go. if you are arriving during the day and know your way around to the silver line i'm sure the bus is fine but just be careful at night and if you'd lugging around suitcases.
Just got back from a 3 week trip to A C. Had a great time, can't wait to go back! Wanted to share a bit of travel advise from Manila Airport for 1st Times. I read a report on this forum that from the airport you can pay 20 p for a shuttle bus to Pasay Terminal and then 150 P for bus to Dau and then 100 p for Trike to your hotel in Angeles City. All this is true but be aware of these issues if you're a newbie...Excellent report! That's what I call a useful report.
Thanks!
Great 2nd report BB49. A mental note of this should be made by all first timers. I know the lay of the land here better than some others, and that's one way I'd never travel. I've driven by the Pasay terminal many times and to me, its a scary place. A three connection trip to save $7. 00 just isn't worth the hassle or personal security risk to me. I was critical of the Swagman bus in the recent past because they threw us on a van rather than a bus, but last trip was easy peasy since there were only 3 passengers. I still can't justify 2,500 from MNL to AC but I travel up there fairly frequently from MNL. For the guy on vacation, 2,500 is probably a good and safe alternative.
Fast Eddie 48
09-05-14, 00:11
just got back from a 3 week trip to a c. had a great time, can't wait to go back! wanted to share a bit of travel advise from manila airport for 1st times. i read a report on this forum that from the airport you can pay 20 p for a shuttle bus to pasay terminal and then 150 p for bus to dau and then 100 p for trike to your hotel in angeles city. all this is true but be aware of these issues if you're a newbie.
#1- the shuttle bus from the airport was very crowded and made several stops along the way. none of those stops are announced. so if you don't know which stop is pasay, you're in trouble. also if you're carrying two suitcases and a backpack it's really difficult to move on a crowded bus!
#2- i arrived at the pasay terminal at 1:00 am in the morning. there were lots of buses but you are in a dark crowded alley and to be honest it didn't feel very safe being a white guy with suitcases roaming around trying to find a decent bus to a. see. signs are poor and you are a target. turns out i needed to get the silver line which is across the street from where the shuttle drops you off which requires you to lug all your stuff up and over this seedy looking bridge to the other side.
#3 so i finally got on the bus with all my crap. i'm exhausted and have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). it's a 2.5 hour trip with no bathroom break and many seedy looking people sitting around you. i was actually afraid to fall asleep.
#4 finally get to dau pay 5 p to take a massive [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and then squeeze myself into a really small trike with all my shit to go to my hotel.
my advise. my hotel offered a car service to manila for 2800 p. nice van, picked me up at the hotel and took my right to the terminal i needed. even stopped for a bathroom break 1/2 way. if money is an issue go for the bus but for me the hotel van is the way to go. if you are arriving during the day and know your way around to the silver line i'm sure the bus is fine but just be careful at night and if you'd lugging around suitcases.to bb49.
i don't understand why you go through all this next time just take the taxi at the airport to swagman hotel at emrita and take the van direct to wild orchid for 600 p,if you can afford 4000 p a night at wild orchid why lug your luggage around like this live and learn.
fast eddie 48.
Thanks BB for posting. Too often we get newcomers who ask all sorts of inane questions and then never file a report.
For the record, the Swagman bus (or van) goes three times a day and the Southern cross Hotel does it once a day (3:30). Both are located in the same area near the Malate church. In AC they'll pick you up at your hotel. And in many cases you can make your payment at the reception of your hotel.
On my last trip to AC we used the van as there were only five or six guys. One guy asks to go to the Swagman hotel in AC. As most of you know this is not on the main strip and traffic can be bad on MacCarther if you are getting into AC around 6 pm. We get to Swagman and this loser changes his mind and wants to go to Central Park Htl. I estimated that he wasted about 30 minutes of everyone's time. Very frustrating. More bus info at the URLs below. X.
http://www.swaggy.com/fly-the-bus/
http://www.thesoutherncrosshotelmanila.com
To BB49.
I don't understand why you go through all this next time just take the taxi at the airport to Swagman hotel at Emrita and take the van direct to Wild Orchid for 600 p,if you can afford 4000 p a night at Wild Orchid why lug your luggage around like this live and learn.
Fast eddie 48.
Both are located in the same area near the Malate church.
Actually they're very near the Ermita church. The Malate church is at the corner of Remedios and Del Pilar, about a 10-minute walk away. Robinson's is approximately midway the two.
Soapy Smith
09-05-14, 10:47
Actually they're very near the Ermita church.
Del Pilar Street and its important Ermita surroundings. The connection to Angeles is admittedly a little tangential.
In suggesting Swaggy's, I was remiss in not mentioning Southern Cross Hotel that also has a bus / van traveling daily to AC. SC is just around the corner from Swaggy's. Walk out of Swagman's turn left, go to the corner and turn left again and you'll see SC about 40 yards down on your left. Price is about the same. They pick up and drop off directly at the front door of Wild Orchid. Price is about the same as Swagman's but I don't think they run as many busses daily. I only took the SC bus one time from AC to Manila and had no issues with it.
The connection to Angeles is admittedly a little tangential.True. I just didn't want someone to read X's comment and later tell a taxi driver to take him to "Malate church" expecting to find the Swagman and Southern Cross hotels and their buses to Angeles.
Thank you. Ermita church. Sure hope no one used my bad info.
The reason I mentioned the church is that taxi drivers sometimes don't know, or pretend not to know where the Swagman Hotel is. If you say Ermita Church, you'll get pretty close.
Actually they're very near the Ermita church. The Malate church is at the corner of Remedios and Del Pilar, about a 10-minute walk away. Robinson's is approximately midway the two.
Thank you. Ermita church. Sure hope no one used my bad info.
The reason I mentioned the church is that taxi drivers sometimes don't know, or pretend not to know where the Swagman Hotel is. If you say Ermita Church, you'll get pretty close.To be fair even locals get Ermita / Malate mixed up. Some hotels give address's which jumble the two.
AV.
Chocha Monger
09-06-14, 01:47
the bar girl that was beaten by the monger hell bent on riding her bareback does not need useless litigators. what she needs is a good pimp with a couple henchmen on call for those sorts of situations. a seasoned pimp would have contacts with the local police, trike drivers, goons, and hotel staff. if the bar girl had a good pimp the trick who stomped her down would already have been taught a lesson for damaging the merchandise.
her current pimp / bar is as useless as teats on a boar hog. she was as much a victim of bad management as of the beating that sasquatch gave her. her pimp / bar should have taken care of her hospital bills and the violent trick. it is sad that she had to call another monger for assistance when her pimp / bar is eating off the tricks she turns but leaving her to take all the risks. she needs to change management immediately. hopefully, she was able to claw the monger's ball sack and face with her nails and he did not escape completely unrep001hed. experienced girls know to text the monger's hotel and room number back to their pimp as well as make periodic reports on their status just in case the trick turns out to be an animal. a red flag should go up when a trick insists on locking up a girl's cell phone in his safe or separating her from it in any other way.
Thank you. Ermita church. Sure hope no one used my bad info.
The reason I mentioned the church is that taxi drivers sometimes don't know, or pretend not to know where the Swagman Hotel is. If you say Ermita Church, you'll get pretty close.No problem, and it's unlikely anyone used it as it was there for a very short while. You're exactly right about taxi drivers often not knowing the Swagman or Southern Cross (SC); hell, I've even had a few drivers not know where major Manila streets are. I'm at the SC from time to time and I always tell the driver to take me to Ermita church because it is a very well-known landmark. (As is Malate church a good landmark for Cowboy Grill, Exclusiv, Zzyzx, etc. in the Remedios Circle area.).
If you say Ermita Church, you'll get pretty close.Plus I love the idea of telling the driver that you're going to church!
For the record I just took the Swagman bus, first time in years. I was a little cautious as I'd heard about broken aircon and other problems, but it was fine. Just a standard ten-passenger van. Good fast driver, and he cut north right across the city so we didn't have to do that usual awful big loop around on EDSA. Got to AC in about 90 minutes, as fast as a cab. Not quite as nice as the Southern Cross bus, but the 11:30 am service is a lot better for me than 3:30 pm.
Note that they seem to leave as soon as they fill up, so get there half an hour or so before departure time.
The Swagman bus may be kaput because everyone seems to be talking about the van these days. I didn't have a problem last month, but things are often slower during the Luzon rainy season. What time was it that you feel people need to show up early? 90 min. Sounds nice, but once again, what was your departure time?
Plus I love the idea of telling the driver that you're going to church!
For the record I just took the Swagman bus, first time in years. I was a little cautious as I'd heard about broken aircon and other problems, but it was fine. Just a standard ten-passenger van. Good fast driver, and he cut north right across the city so we didn't have to do that usual awful big loop around on EDSA. Got to AC in about 90 minutes, as fast as a cab. Not quite as nice as the Southern Cross bus, but the 11:30 am service is a lot better for me than 3:30 pm.
Note that they seem to leave as soon as they fill up, so get there half an hour or so before departure time.
sounds nice, but once again, what was your departure time?i took the 11:30 am bus from manila. in fact it left around 11:20, so all i'm saying is that it's best to get there a few minutes early. we were in ac by 1 pm, despite the usual [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stop required whenever filipinas travel more than 45 minutes by bus. and the woman took so long that i was tempted to bribe the driver to leave without her.
I almost always take the 11:30 am Bus. I show up at 10:30, get my ticket and have some breakfast. Breakfast there really isn't bad at all. Since both Swaggy's and Southern Cross are both running vans at the moment, I have a feeling its because of the off season. I don't really know though because I never asked.
the bar girl that was beaten by the monger hell bent on riding her bareback does not need useless litigators. what she needs is a good pimp with a couple henchmen on call for those sorts of situations. a seasoned pimp would have contacts with the local police, trike drivers, goons, and hotel staff. if the bar girl had a good pimp the trick who stomped her down would already have been taught a lesson for damaging the merchandise.
her current pimp / bar is as useless as teats on a boar hog. she was as much a victim of bad management as of the beating that sasquatch gave her. her pimp / bar should have taken care of her hospital bills and the violent trick. it is sad that she had to call another monger for assistance when her pimp / bar is eating off the tricks she turns but leaving her to take all the risks. she needs to change management immediately. hopefully, she was able to claw the monger's ball sack and face with her nails and he did not escape completely unrep001hed. experienced girls know to text the monger's hotel and room number back to their pimp as well as make periodic reports on their status just in case the trick turns out to be an animal. a red flag should go up when a trick insists on locking up a girl's cell phone in his safe or separating her from it in any other way.i have emailed five guys in ac, including two bar owners, and they did not hear anything about any girl being hospitalized due to being beaten in hotel. not saying it did not happen, but if it did it, it sure was not known.
MuppetShow
09-07-14, 08:02
Hello to all,
Sorry for my title, LOL, a bit adding spice. I would like to share my experience about this famous Fields ave. I am here for 10 days. Still here, can't wait to get the hell out of here. Live in famois USofA. So contrast between US and Philippines is very extremly high. I do not like to start shitting on the Philippines because I only would like to focus on Fields ave.
Never went to Perimeter or any other place, I spend my time only on Fields ave, I visited every single bar. I am not a Monger, but sometimes I can take a girl from a bar, in general I do not do that and it is not my style of having fun. So will try to be short.
Arrived in Angeles by taxi, I know the driver a while so decided to be entertained on my way there, paid 2000 p. Fields ave made shitty impression right away. All that traffic from tricicles, mopeds, bikes, motorbikes, overcrowded roads, no pedestrian walks, smell, poor beggars etc. etc. etc. As always, found reality different from what I was reading in internet about Fields ave. The bars area is nice actually, very compact. But at the same time if you will add to much sugar in your food, you will loose the sweet taste of it, that way I felt on Fields ave. My head was spinning from left to right on that ave. I think because of such high concentration of bars this place is overrated due to unctions behavior that most so called mongers are practicing in there and then report here what they experienced under high volume of alcohol.
It is nothing special. Bars are loaded with girls which are prostitutes from very poor families and trying to earn some money by selling their body. I spoke with many of them (mamasans) and majority have kids, single mothers, many have husbands or boyfriends, came from different provinces and live 20 girls per room. All bars charge 3000 pesos and up, for a girl, and bar has no hands on what girl does with a guy who take her, it is up to the girl leave at any moment she likes to go.
I took 5 ladies in total and all was kind with problems, no wonder. It is business they don't have to love you for 3000 pesos. Will describe what happened with those ladies. 1st after about 1 hour of sex start to complain that she has sore back and stomach because of my large dick. Never did any sex after that claim. 2nd was not bad but kind of same story only thing was she was saying all the time that she feels pain if I push to hard, so just could not normally bang her. 3rd and 4th got them 2 together, liked them both, so about after 40 minutes one ran away because she said my dick is to large for her, ran back to the bar, and second lady never did any sex because she had sore stomach and was telling me later later- was waiting for her pain in the stomach to go away, (she has pain only if she forget to take her medicine). 5th had a nice big latin ass, and I banged her 2 times in a row, used 2 condoms, after that she was texting non stop and said she needs to go because her sister has some health issues (it was around 1 am). But assured me she will be back around 4 am, never happened. So after all that I decided not to take any more working girls because it was just like a lottery where you always loose, everything they need is just your money, and I was not rushing to bed with them. Some drinking in the bar, then bar hop a bit, then restaurant after that only went to my room, so I was communicating with each girl around 3-6 hours each time.
Prices not high but it is not what in internet about Fields ave, food drinks and lady, per night it was 6000 pesos.
People who go to Fields ave have to understand it is a prostitutes avenue. Girls there are not for love, of course because of filippin life style the ladies are soft hearted and their approach to life and decision making is different from western ladies, girls overall are nice, friendly, kind of GFE all the time.
So I was just spending my time, I never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what I wanted to do on Fields ave. Just wanted to see the place that I have heard so many times about. Also remember, there is no customer service, you have to be ready for all kind of shit there, I witnessed a guard was shot, another one of examples is, I went to Atlantis bar, just got a seat, and around 4 girls surrounded me right away, start paying their attention to me, also I said to waitress I do not want order beer right away I will do it in 10 minutes time, I am attractive dude, physically fit, 6 feet, mid thirties, so it is normal for me that wherever I go girls pay a lot of attention to me, in Atlantis. After about 4 minutes another lady approached the table and start yelling a bit at those girls around me, than she switched her attention to me and said I have to buy a beer, I know that customer have to buy a drink. Conversation was short, she insisted I sit there more than 10 minutes without any drink, but I actually was there just a few minutes, I never said anything bad, but her point was, get the beer now or get out of the bar, I could not actually believe what I was hearing, mostly Filipinos are friendly to foreigners due to many reasons, but at this moment it was like lightning for me, get a beer or leave bar now, so I did not hesitate and left the bar. Fuck this type of attitude.
All the bars are "crappy" places, some very small like Hollywood for example, some have very impractical design like Tao bar. A lot of fuck ups in those bars and need to look at each bar individually, also same bar everyday different, if Tao overcrowded it is a crazy shithole with extremely loud music, if not so many people inside actually it is not that bad. So overall bad design in bars, small space in bars, pushy waitresses buy a drink, buy a lady drink every 10 minutes, or anytime when next working girl sits next to me; many bars have poor show. Girls just standing on stage, aircon circulation in many bars is not powerful enough, to many smokers, I do not smoke. Dancers also not perfect friendly, do all type of crazy faces instead just wave you a hand or smile, if you just a bit pay attention she is ready sit next to you, ladyboys on the street touching you, or even grabbing you and telling in your face. I will suck your dick, those annoying viagra sellers, trickle drivers rip you off big time, for 1 minute drive 100 pisos, a lot of small issues. Fields ave. Changing with time, prices go up, girls not wasting their time, and try fuck as many men as they can per night to get more money probably.
I am not a prick, I just don't fucking wasting my life time on shit, that's why I pay attention to details, the only one club I liked. And it was a Crystal Palace, that is a place for me, but still life is not perfect, and 3 nights in a row fucking Indian cunts (sorry I am just pissed not a racist) were there and acting like that place belonged to them, were throwing money to dancers, requesting their Indian music to be played all the time or going themselves on stage scare all dancers to sides and dancing with their working girls that they bring with them for everyone to see. I used to leave that place everytime after when they keep on doing that self centered partying, it should be banned, if you want owe the club, pay fuckers 250 k pesos a night and have fun all night without any customers inside, only dancers. Also High Society is a relatively nice place, but loaded with working girls 2000 pesos short time.
So overall Angeles is a shithole, pussy can not make man go after her to other part of the world, if my words touched your ego than you are an idiot, no real man runs after pussy. Fields ave for old guys, or for young inexperienced boys that never seen a pussy in their lifetime and been influenced by MTV music with ass shaking dancers. Fields ave is not for me, it is for losers. I can find a pussy easy without even paying for it anytime I want to. Plus Fields ave is not the only place which has bars. So overall my conclusion, it is a miss, just advertised place. I did expected it to be like a real party place, it was not, it is a sex trade place. As long as dancers on stage will be receiving 130 pesos per night for dancing, and 50% from 3000 peso bar fine and 100 peso from 300 lady drink, this place will be a sex selling place.
Thanks for reading my experience.
P.S. The only memory I have after visiting Fields, that those poor ladies. Dancers that everyone can buy and shag, they are sweet hearted and patient, filipina is a perfect wife, those ladies are very sweet, they will take care of you. Nahh Fields not for me.
Well there you go, I've been taking the wrong bus. Can I sit on your lap if the bus is too crowded? X.
I almost always take the 11:30 am Bus. I show up at 10:30, get my ticket and have some breakfast. Breakfast there really isn't bad at all. Since both Swaggy's and Southern Cross are both running vans at the moment, I have a feeling its because of the off season. I don't really know though because I never asked.
Mr Enternational
09-07-14, 16:52
Neither is she a prostitute, but sometimes she goes with men for money.
All bars charge 3000 pesos for a girl? Proud to say that I have never been in those "all bars". Seems like he is going on what he has heard and not what he knows, unless it was just his destiny to be ripped off.
hmm. thanks for your post and your observations but i have an observation, too.
you are not a monger yet you traveled thousands of miles and spend thousands of dollars travel to a monger paradise just to look around? fyi. there are thousands of places in the world that are not monger paradises where people travel to "just to look around" that have beautiful sunsets, mountains, skyscrapers, etc.
you are not a monger, you say, but you bf multiple girls for sex? can one say hypocrite? you say fields is "not for you". since you knew it was a monger place you and since you are "not a monger" you knew it wasn't for you in the first place. inconsistent as hell explanation.
just a note: if you bf a girl for sex you are a monger-frequent or otherwise.
given your this was your first trip it is not surprising things did not go well for you. any new place takes time, patience and practice to get the 'lay of the land'. your negative experiences with almost every girl you took speaks more to your lack of research on this forum which has much info to properly prepare someone on what to expect; your lack of research on filipino culture / customs and experience in interacting with filipinas and perhaps with women in general-who knows?
and, not to be overly critical, but can you proof-read your posts a bit more before posting. your post was difficult to read. hard to believe english is your primary language.
btw. if you are not a monger why are you even reading this forum which is expressly for said purpose?
suerte.
stowe.
hello to all,
sorry for my title, lol, a bit adding spice. i would like to share my experience about this famous fields ave. i am here for 10 days. still here, can't wait to get the hell out of here. live in famois usofa. so contrast between us and philippines is very extremly high. i do not like to start shitting on the philippines because i only would like to focus on fields ave.
never went to perimeter or any other place, i spend my time only on fields ave, i visited every sigle bar. i am not a monger, but sometimes i can take a girl from a bar, in general i do not do that and it is not my style of having fun. so will try to be short.
arrived in angeles by taxi, i know the driver a while so decided to be entertained on my way there, paid 2000 p. fields ave made shitty impression right away. all that traffic from tricicles, mopeds, bikes, motorbikes, overcrowded roads, no pedestrian walks, smell, poor beggars etc. etc. etc. as always, found reality different from what i was reading in internet about fields ave. the bars area is nice actually, very compact. but at the same time if you will add to much sugar in your food, you will loose the sweet taste of it, that way i felt on fields ave. my head was spinning from left to right on that ave. i think because of such high concentration of bars this place is overrated due to uncuntiois behaviour that most so called mongers are practicing in there and then report here what they experienced under high volume of alcohol.
it is nothing special. bars are loaded with girls which are prostitutes from very poor families and trying to earn some money by selling their body. i spoke with many of them (mamasans) and majority have kids, single mothers, many have husbands or boyfriends, came from different provinces and live 20 girls per room. all bars charge 3000 pesos and up, for a girl, and bar has no hands on what girl does with a guy who take her, it is up to the girl leave at any moment she likes to go.
i took 5 ladies in total and all was kind with problems, no wonder. it is business they don't have to love you for 3000 pesos. will describe what happened with those ladies. 1st after about 1 hour of sex start to complain that she has sore back and stomach because of my large dick. never did any sex after that claim. 2nd was not bad but kind of same story only thing was she was saying all the time that she feels pain if i push to hard, so just could not normally bang her. 3rd and 4 rth got them 2 together, liked them both, so about after 40 minutes one runned away because she said my dick is to large for her, runned back to the bar, and second lady never did any sex because she had sore stomach and was telling me later later- was waiting for her pain in the stomach to go away,(she has pain only if she forget to take her medicine). 5th had a nice big latin ass, and i banged her 2 times in a row, used 2 condoms, after that she was texting non stop and said she needs to go because her sister has some health issues (it was around 1 am). but assured me she will be back around 4 am, never happened. so after all that i decided not to take any more working girls because it was just like a lottery where you always loose, everything they need is just your money, and i was not rushing to bed with them. some drinking in the bar, then bar hop a bit, then restaurant after that only went to my room, so i was communicating with each girl around 3-6 hours each time.
prices not high but it is not what in internet about fields ave, food drinks and lady, per night it was 6000 pesos.
people who go to fields ave. have to understand it is a prostitutes avenue. girls there are not for love, ofcourse because of filippin life style the ladies are soft hearted and their approach to life and decision making is different from western ladies, girls overall are nice, friendly, kind of gfe all the time.
so i was just spending my time, i never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what i wanted to do on fields ave. just wanted to see the place that i have heard so many times about. also remember, there is no customer service, you have to be ready for all kind of shit there, i witnessed a guard was shot, another one of examples is, i went to atlantis bar, just got a seat, and around 4 girls surrounded me right away, start paying their attention to me, also i said to waitress i do not want order beer right away i will do it in 10 minutes time, i am attractive dude, physically fit, 6 feet, mid thirties, so it is normal for me that wherever i go girls pay a lot of attention to me, in atlantis. after about 4 minutes another lady approached the table and start yelling a bit at those girls around me, than she switched her attention to me and said i have to buy a beer, i know that customer have to buy a drink. conversation was short, she insisted i sit there more than 10 minutes without any drink, but i actually was there just a few minutes, i never said anything bad, but her point was, get the beer now or get out of the bar, i could not actually believe what i was hearing, mostly filipinos are friendly to foreigners due to many reasons, but at this moment it was like lightning for me, get a beer or leave bar now, so i did not hesitate and left the bar. fuck this type of attitude.
all the bars are "crappy" places, some very small like hollywood for example, some have very impractical design like tao bar. a lot of fuck ups in those bars and need to look at each bar individually, also same bar everyday different, if tao overcrowded it is a crazy shithole with extremely loud music, if not so many people inside actually it is not that bad. so overall bad design in bars, small space in bars, pushy waitresses buy a drink, buy a lady drink every 10 minutes, or anytime when next working girl sits next to me; many bars have poor show. girls just standing on stage, aircon circulation in many bars is not powerful enough, to many smokers, i do not smoke. dancers also not perfect friendly, do all type of crazy faces instead just wave you a hand or smile, if you just a bit pay attention she is ready sit next to you, ladyboys on the street touching you, or even grabbing you and telling in your face. i will suck your dick, those annoying viagra sellers, trickle drivers rip you off big time, for 1 minute drive 100 pisos, a lot of small issues. fields ave. changing with time, prices go up, girls not wasting their time, and try fuck as many men as they can per night to get more money probably.
i am not a prick, i just don't fucking wasting my life time on shit, that's why i pay attention to details, the only one club i liked. and it was a crystal palace, that is a place for me, but still life is not perfect, and 3 nights in a row fucking indian cunts (sorry i am just pissed not a racist) were there and acting like that place belonged to them, were throwing money to dancers, requesting their indian music to be played all the time or going themselves on stage scare all dancers to sides and dancing with their working girls that they bring with them for everyone to see. i used to leave that place everytime after when they keep on doing that self centered partying, it should be banned, if you want owe the club, pay fuckers 250 k pesos a night and have fun all night without any customers inside, only dancers. also high society is a relatively nice place, but loaded with working girls 2000 pisos short time.
so overall angeles is a shithole, pussy can not make man go after her to other part of the world, if my words touched your ego than you are an idiot, no real man runs after pussy. fields ave for old guys, or for young inexperienced boys that never seen a pussy in their lifetime and been influenced by mtv music with ass shaking dancers. fields ave is not for me, it is for loosers. i can find a pussy easy without even paying for it anytime i want to. plus fields ave is not the only place which has bars. so overall my conclusion, it is a miss, just advertised place. i did expected it to be like a real party place, it was not, it is a sex trade place. as long as dancers on stage will be receiving 130 pisos per night for dancing, and 50% from 3000 piso bar fine and 100 piso from 300 lady drink, this place will be a sex selling place.
thanks for reading my experience.
p.s. the only memory i have after visiting fields, that those poor ladies. dancers that everyone can buy and shag, they are sweet hearted and patient, filipina is a perfect wife, those ladies are very sweet, they will take care of you. nahh fields not for me.
Hmm. Thanks for your post and your observations but I have an observation, too.Yes, quite a detailed, lengthy post from a newbie "non-monger". Perhaps he will cross-over to the dark side and join the rest of us non-mongering pleasure-seekers.
Hello to all,
Sorry for my title, LOL, a bit adding spice. I would like to share my experience about this famous Fields ave. I am here for 10 days. Still here, can't wait to get the hell out of here. Live in famois USofA. So contrast between US and Philippines is very extremly high. I do not like to start shitting on the Philippines because I only would like to focus on Fields ave.
Never went to perimeter or any other place, I spend my time only on Fields ave, I visited every sigle bar. I am not a Monger, but sometimes I can take a girl from a bar, in general I do not do that and it is not my style of having fun. So will try to be short.
Arrived in Angeles by taxi, I know the driver a while so decided to be entertained on my way there, paid 2000 p. Fields ave made shitty impression right away. All that traffic from tricicles, mopeds, bikes, motorbikes, overcrowded roads, no pedestrian walks, smell, poor beggars etc. Etc. Etc. As always, found reality different from what I was reading in internet about Fields ave. The bars area is nice actually, very compact. But at the same time if you will add to much sugar in your food, you will loose the sweet taste of it, that way I felt on Fields ave. My head was spinning from left to right on that ave. I think because of such high concentration of bars this place is overrated due to uncuntiois behaviour that most so called mongers are practicing in there and then report here what they experienced under high volume of alcohol.
It is nothing special. Bars are loaded with girls which are prostitutes from very poor families and trying to earn some money by selling their body. I spoke with many of them (mamasans) and majority have kids, single mothers, many have husbands or boyfriends, came from different provinces and live 20 girls per room. All bars charge 3000 pesos and up, for a girl, and bar has no hands on what girl does with a guy who take her, it is up to the girl leave at any moment she likes to go.
I took 5 ladies in total and all was kind with problems, no wonder. It is business they don't have to love you for 3000 pesos. Will describe what happened with those ladies. 1st after about 1 hour of sex start to complain that she has sore back and stomach because of my large dick. Never did any sex after that claim. 2nd was not bad but kind of same story only thing was she was saying all the time that she feels pain if I push to hard, so just could not normally bang her. 3rd and 4 rth got them 2 together, liked them both, so about after 40 minutes one runned away because she said my dick is to large for her, runned back to the bar, and second lady never did any sex because she had sore stomach and was telling me later later- was waiting for her pain in the stomach to go away,(she has pain only if she forget to take her medicine). 5th had a nice big latin ass, and I banged her 2 times in a row, used 2 condoms, after that she was texting non stop and said she needs to go because her sister has some health issues (it was around 1 am). But assured me she will be back around 4 am, never happened. So after all that I decided not to take any more working girls because it was just like a lottery where you always loose, everything they need is just your money, and I was not rushing to bed with them. Some drinking in the bar, then bar hop a bit, then restaurant after that only went to my room, so I was communicating with each girl around 3-6 hours each time.
Prices not high but it is not what in internet about fields ave, food drinks and lady, per night it was 6000 pesos.
People who go to Fields ave. Have to understand it is a prostitutes avenue. Girls there are not for love, ofcourse because of filippin life style the ladies are soft hearted and their approach to life and decision making is different from western ladies, girls overall are nice, friendly, kind of GFE all the time.
So I was just spending my time, I never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what I wanted to do on Fields ave. Just wanted to see the place that I have heard so many times about. Also remember, there is no customer service, you have to be ready for all kind of shit there, I witnessed a guard was shot, another one of examples is, I went to Atlantis bar, just got a seat, and around 4 girls surrounded me right away, start paying their attention to me, also I said to waitress I do not want order beer right away I will do it in 10 minutes time, I am attractive dude, physically fit, 6 feet, mid thirties, so it is normal for me that wherever I go girls pay a lot of attention to me, in Atlantis. After about 4 minutes another lady approached the table and start yelling a bit at those girls around me, than she switched her attention to me and said I have to buy a beer, I know that customer have to buy a drink. Conversation was short, she insisted I sit there more than 10 minutes without any drink, but I actually was there just a few minutes, I never said anything bad, but her point was, get the beer now or get out of the bar, I could not actually believe what I was hearing, mostly Filipinos are friendly to foreigners due to many reasons, but at this moment it was like lightning for me, get a beer or leave bar now, so I did not hesitate and left the bar. Fuck this type of attitude.
All the bars are "crappy" places, some very small like Hollywood for example, some have very impractical design like Tao bar. A lot of fuck ups in those bars and need to look at each bar individually, also same bar everyday different, if Tao overcrowded it is a crazy shithole with extremely loud music, if not so many people inside actually it is not that bad. So overall bad design in bars, small space in bars, pushy waitresses buy a drink, buy a lady drink every 10 minutes, or anytime when next working girl sits next to me; many bars have poor show. Girls just standing on stage, aircon circulation in many bars is not powerful enough, to many smokers, I do not smoke. Dancers also not perfect friendly, do all type of crazy faces instead just wave you a hand or smile, if you just a bit pay attention she is ready sit next to you, ladyboys on the street touching you, or even grabbing you and telling in your face. I will suck your dick, those annoying viagra sellers, trickle drivers rip you off big time, for 1 minute drive 100 pisos, a lot of small issues. Fields ave. Changing with time, prices go up, girls not wasting their time, and try fuck as many men as they can per night to get more money probably.
I am not a prick, I just don't fucking wasting my life time on shit, that's why I pay attention to details, the only one club I liked. And it was a Crystal Palace, that is a place for me, but still life is not perfect, and 3 nights in a row fucking Indian cunts (sorry I am just pissed not a racist) were there and acting like that place belonged to them, were throwing money to dancers, requesting their Indian music to be played all the time or going themselves on stage scare all dancers to sides and dancing with their working girls that they bring with them for everyone to see. I used to leave that place everytime after when they keep on doing that self centered partying, it should be banned, if you want owe the club, pay fuckers 250 k pesos a night and have fun all night without any customers inside, only dancers. Also High Society is a relatively nice place, but loaded with working girls 2000 pisos short time.
So overall Angeles is a shithole, pussy can not make man go after her to other part of the world, if my words touched your ego than you are an idiot, no real man runs after pussy. Fields ave for old guys, or for young inexperienced boys that never seen a pussy in their lifetime and been influenced by MTV music with ass shaking dancers. Fields ave is not for me, it is for loosers. I can find a pussy easy without even paying for it anytime I want to. Plus Fields ave is not the only place which has bars. So overall my conclusion, it is a miss, just advertised place. I did expected it to be like a real party place, it was not, it is a sex trade place. As long as dancers on stage will be receiving 130 pisos per night for dancing, and 50% from 3000 piso bar fine and 100 piso from 300 lady drink, this place will be a sex selling place.
Thanks for reading my experience.
P.S. The only memory I have after visiting Fields, that those poor ladies. Dancers that everyone can buy and shag, they are sweet hearted and patient, filipina is a perfect wife, those ladies are very sweet, they will take care of you. Nahh Fields not for me.Fields is pretty much as you described it. Most of it has been reported as such. Beggars, vitamin V salesmen, ladyboys roaming around, P100 trikes and some awful smell at times. And etc and etc. I had mostly the same opinion my first time in AC, but the "character" of the town kind of grows on you after a while.
Now I don't know how you got a great deal on the taxi for 2000. You call these bg's prostitutes then you have refer to your self as a John. At least a 5 time John. There are bars that have 2500 bf, I don't know how you only found the 3000 ones.
You have to understand that just being an attractive 6 footer, 30 something with a large dick won't buy a bg a kilo of rice with your good looks. Whether you are hansum or ugly JJ's Supermarket still wants money for their rice. Bars and bg are there to make some meager money. They are not going to waste their time on lookie loos.
News flash. AC has been a sex selling place and probably will continue to be!
Member #4698
09-07-14, 18:49
i have an observation, too.
you are not a monger yet you traveled thousands of miles and spend thousands of dollars travel to a monger paradise just to look around? fyi. there are thousands of places in the world that are not monger paradises where people travel to "just to look around" that have beautiful sunsets, mountains, skyscrapers, etc. that's the main contradiction i saw in the original post too. there is no valid reason why any "straight" tourist in his right mind would travel out of his way to ac and then having discovered his initial error, stay and spend 10 nights in the monger capital of the philippines unless he were interested in the girls? me thinks the op protests his innocence to much. there are many beautiful destinations in the philippines let alone the rest of south east asia. the only rational reasons anybody comes to ac is for girls, business, family, or as jumping off point. if it is not the latter three, then it has to be for the girls.
which reminds me of the famous scene in "casablanca":
captain renault, "i'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here!" (the croupier hands him his money.) "your winnings, sir." "oh, thank you very much!"
or another scene from the same movie:
"what in heavens name brought you to casablanca?" "my health, i came to casablanca for the waters." "the waters? what waters? were in the desert." "...i was misinformed."
" I never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what I wanted to do on Fields ave. " .
A ten-day escapade in displeasure, eh? And you're surprised that a town known as one of the top two bordellos on the planet would be full of hustlers and grifters? And mystified that Atlantis would want you to order a drink, and quickly, too?
Good thing that you've got your physical attributes going for ya, though. Based on this report (though it is nice to see such an investment for a first one), I don't see the girls banging you for your brains.
MuppetShow
09-07-14, 20:10
" I never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what I wanted to do on Fields ave. " .
A ten-day escapade in displeasure, eh? And you're surprised that a town known as one of the top two bordellos on the planet would be full of hustlers and grifters? And mystified that Atlantis would want you to order a drink, and quickly, too?
Good thing that you've got your physical attributes going for ya, though. Based on this report (though it is nice to see such an investment for a first one), I don't see the girls banging you for your brains.Hmmm, kind strange responses, did I came here to try your balls mongers? I have said what I have experienced, I do not want to force lady out, I am not on tight budget, I can fucking blow thousands if I want to, those 70 bucks are nothing. I am giving a statement, Fields is a shit hole loaded with prostitutes, low level ones, I had girls in Vegas that do their job properly here just a banana tree girls. There is no need to explain more, I never went especially for Angeles there, I am in Phils more than 6 months already, due to my work, in Angeles I went to check out the place. Yes I consider myself not a monger because I am not running after pussy, like one Korean guy I met in the bar, fucked 6 girls in 2 days. That is a monger.
In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me. Here you paying and those cunts not even doing their job properly, LOL, monger destination?
Hello to all,
Sorry for my title, LOL, a bit adding spice. I would like to share my experience about this famous Fields ave. I am here for 10 days. Still here, can't wait to get the hell out of here. Live in famois USofA. So contrast between US and Philippines is very extremly high. I do not like to start shitting on the Philippines because I only would like to focus on Fields ave. {S N I P}Uh oh! Someone left a door unlocked at a Mumbai hospital!
WestCoast1
09-07-14, 20:29
Now I don't know how you got a great deal on the taxi for 2000. You call these bg's prostitutes then you have refer to your self as a John. At least a 5 time John. There are bars that have 2500 bf, I don't know how you only found the 3000 ones.
Well said. In fact there are bars at sub-2000, and ST bars are sub-1000.
Muppet, a question: One only goes to AC to monger. If you didn't go there for such purpose, why on earth were you there for 10 days in the first place?
I'm wondering if we have another Father McCobb on our hands.
" a town known as one of the top two bordellos on the planet The other town, let me guess. Tijuana?
Pip Jaeger
09-08-14, 00:44
Well said. In fact there are bars at sub-2000, and ST bars are sub-1000.
Muppet, a question: One only goes to AC to monger. If you didn't go there for such purpose, why on earth were you there for 10 days in the first place?
I'm wondering if we have another Father McCobb on our hands.Even if there's another reason, why keep going back to the bars if not liked and kept having such a bad time & getting runners; sounds like a glutton for punishment.
Even though MW's report was not 100% accurate (I'm not going to waste my time picking it apart) nor positive I think someone who's contemplating a visit to AC for the first time can learn a lot from it. It's all about expectations and preparation. Before a person visits AC they need to invest some time reading forums, like ISG which I think is one of the better ones, and looking at some videos on You Tube. There's a wealth of knowledge available at your fingertips and I have no pity for anyone who doesn't avail of it.
As said MW, even though your FR was not positive and many will pick it apart as well as argue over it, I for one would like to thank you for taking the time to write it and I hope you can find what you seek elsewhere (Germany maybe). And continue to post FR's on their respective threads.
The other town, let me guess. Tijuana?Casa Medellin? Happy Camp, Curacao?
Wicked Roger
09-08-14, 01:34
In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me. Here you paying and those cunts not even doing their job properly, LOL, monger destination?
Uh oh! Someone left a door unlocked at a Mumbai hospital!
Muppet, a question: One only goes to AC to monger. If you didn't go there for such purpose, why on earth were you there for 10 days in the first place?
I'm wondering if we have another Father McCobb on our hands.Muppet – you have 2 FRs both negative and yet you have been all over the country having free pussy and only in AC you ant find. You sound like CaliPro LOL.
Ikks – can't be Mumbai as the writing is far too good for that genre.
But Westie. I am thinking the same as you as he pops up causes a stir and then complain when others pick holes in what he wrote. But McCobb would not use such basic word to describe the girls would he?
Muppet – suggest you avoid the country as you attitude to those in it seems to be arrogant and misguided. If you have been here any months you would know what AC was and is and as Dg said will continue to be so. As PJ aid you did not do your homework and clearly did not RTFF. But you are a businessman with loads of cash to blow all over the country so surely you would have done the homework? Is why I am with Westie on this.
Happy Korean Thanksgiving Day everyone! Monday, September 8.
Muppet you have 2 FRs both negative and yet you have been all over the country having free pussy and only in AC you ant find. You sound like CaliPro LOL.
Ikks can't be Mumbai as the writing is far too good for that genre.
But Westie. I am thinking the same as you as he pops up causes a stir and then complain when others pick holes in what he wrote. But McCobb would not use such basic word to describe the girls would he?
Muppet suggest you avoid the country as you attitude to those in it seems to be arrogant and misguided. If you have been here any months you would know what AC was and is and as Dg said will continue to be so. As PJ aid you did not do your homework and clearly did not RTFF. But you are a businessman with loads of cash to blow all over the country so surely you would have done the homework? Is why I am with Westie on this.Spot on. Sad a man can't find a good flcuk in a town full of hookers. Maybe he should of looked for free, as he get's it everywhere else in the PI.
There are many sub P2000 bars along perimeter that I plan to explore over the next few days. I have been to Honey Kos and a few others. I think most of these open at 2 pm and close around 11 pm. I have only hit 5 so far. Mischief bar seems to be the nicest and cleanest so far. Most girls along here do ST only because of family or family concerns, meaning some families don't know they are working in a bar and won't know as long as they get home around midnight or so. If you want LT with them then take them at 2 pm and send them home at 11 pm.
WestCoast1
09-08-14, 05:27
I am giving a statement, Fields is a shit hole loaded with prostitutes, low level ones, Correct. Which you will read about all over this board and the Internet. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Fields / AC is some kind of entertainment capital (ala Las Vegas or a theme park).
I had girls in Vegas that do their job properly here just a banana tree girls.You did not have girls in Vegas that did their job properly, as opposed to girls in Fields bars who did not. You are comparing apples to oranges. AC bars collect your money before you leave the bar; thus you "get what you get" once you leave the bar. Hookers everywhere else (ala Vegas) get paid after the deed; of course she will behave better than a bargirl. Also american girls are a bit bigger than pinay; your big dick probably scared them filipina back to church.
I agree with Pip: your report is in some ways spot on, and describes the gritty-ness of AC, and is a bit of a primer for newbs. Muppet, if you had RTTF before going there, you would have known many of the crappy things about AC before going there. Also, I'm having some trouble with something else you said:
I am in Phils more than 6 months already, due to my work, in Angeles I went to check out the place
SNIP
In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me.
Where are all of your Field Reports for those places? You said in your first post that you were from America. Your american employer pays you to travel to Gensan / Cogoyan / Davao / Cebu, and you can't spell to save your life. I was going to PM you and ask what you do for work, but you are not a full member yet.
MuppetShow
09-08-14, 05:28
Spot on. Sad a man can't find a good flcuk in a town full of hookers. Maybe he should of looked for free, as he get's it everywhere else in the PI.Gentleman's,
You kind of started from the wrong end, do not judge me based on my number of reviews. I am not here to argue or insult anyone, I do not even care about your advices. There is a lot of meat in Angeles, what I am saying is. Fields is a shit hole. My experience you can read in my report. I did not look for cheapest pussy available and I never was trading to make it cheaper either, because it does not matter to me. LMFAO. Do some research, may be you will ask me to get a PHD in "fuckology" before I go to any red light district? Things like that should not be, the bar happy to take your money, but they have no responsibility if a girl will not even go to your hotel. That what they do there, or at least they minimize efforts to get their pussy fcuked, no wonder so many dicks on a daily basis why girls should be bothered to waste their time on you. Waitresses pushing for drinks non stop, girls asking lady drinks non stop, and try do runners after all, you may be like this crap, I do not.
The other town, let me guess. Tijuana?Er, my Asian Fever was getting in the way. (was thinking more in the line of Patts, but hey). I suppose there are a few others, thank gawd.
And Muppet, yeah, maybe I was a bit too rough on you and all, questioning your intelligence, and with you going to the trouble of stringing entire paragraphs together, in a first posting no less. I shouldn't have entered the domain of being what Jackson may construe as argumentative; my bad.
In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me. Here you paying and those cunts not even doing their job properly, LOL, monger destination?Yes, AC is a monger destination. It has girlie bars where you pay for pleasure. That's the whole idea of mongering.
You are comparing apples to oranges if you compare that to the freebies you had elsewhere. I'm pretty sure (in fact I'm 100% sure) you did not pull those freebies out of a girlie bar, did you? It's pretty hard to find a girl in a girlie bar who will go with you for free.
Capt Munch
09-08-14, 07:31
I consider myself not a monger because I am not running after pussy, like one Korean guy I met in the bar, fucked 6 girls I'd 2 days. That is a monger.
I visited every sigle bar. I am not a Monger, but sometimes I can take a girl from a bar
Bars are loaded with girls which are prostitutes from very poor families and trying to earn some money by selling their body.
I took 5 ladies in totalFrom the Urban Dictionary. . . . . Monger.
Short for *monger, I. E. , one who frequents working girls and prostitutes. (Doesn't specify that they be Korean or that they manage 6 girls in 2 days!
This causes me a little confusion. But then I am also from the "famois USofA" and a product of the pubic skool sytem.
It was a little hard to read these reports BUT they certainly have sparked a flurry of posts. Just when it had been quiet in the Angeles forum, not unlike some of the bars during rainy season.
Munch.
Hookers everywhere else (ala Vegas) get paid after the deed; Don't know about the USA but in my country (Holland), as well as in most other European countries I guess, hookers get paid before the deed.
Bareback49
09-08-14, 21:04
To BB49.
I don't understand why you go through all this next time just take the taxi at the airport to Swagman hotel at Emrita and take the van direct to Wild Orchid for 600 p,if you can afford 4000 p a night at Wild Orchid why lug your luggage around like this live and learn.
Fast eddie 48.I'm sure the Swagman bus is just fine, If you arrive at the right time of day to catch it. On my next trip I'll be sure to check it out. The point of my post was to let other first timers know what NOT to do. Just trying to pass good info on!
Bareback49
09-08-14, 22:14
So I just got back from my 1st time in AC. And wanted to pass on a few notes to any other 1st timers. If you read this forum enough you'll pickup some good tips, so do your research, you'll have a better time if you know the lay of the land. I spent 3 weeks in August 2014 in AC and I had a really fantastic time. I saw no evidence of raids or trouble which I had been worried about. I met several really great girls and some not so great girls, had some good nights and got taken advantage of a couple of times. It was my experience that if you aren't firm enough you'll be taken advantage of by some of the girls in the bars but if you learn to be firm but nice you'll have a great time. My example is that I was in the Bunny Ranch on my 3rd night and I locked eyes with this really beautiful 20 yo girl. She came over and asked if I would buy her a drink, which I did, and we started talking. I asked her if I could barfine her but she said not tonight. But maybe tomorrow. So the next night I go back to the Bunny Ranch and as soon as I walk in the same girl sees me and comes right over and sits down with a friend of hers. Not wanting to be rude I buy them both a lady drink and when the waitress comes over to get our order my cute 20 yo says something under her breath I didn't understand. The three of us talk for a while and she's only somewhat affectionate towards me but I'm thinking she's just shy. Another round comes and goes and I finally ask her if she's ready to come with me and then she tells me she's got her monthly visitor, as does her friend. I'm bummed but still thinking it's ok, then the bill comes. What she mumbled to the waitress was "double" so now I'm stuck with a 1400 p bar bill. So the lesson here is that if you're going to be a nice guy and not pay attention you're going to get a few large drink bills. I was a little upset because I felt this girl played me a little but the truth is I let myself get played. If you only want to buy a single lady drink, make sure to be clear with your waitress. If a girl brings over a friend and you don't want to buy her a lady drink, politely decline. If you want to barfine a girl ask upfront if she wants to be barfined by you. She may not want to be. After this experience I was much better about being up front, being polite but firm and saying no when I didn't want to buy a girl a drink, and for the rest of my trip I had a great time.
As someone said "It's important to learn the rules so you know how to break them properly!"
To BB49.
I don't understand why you go through all this next time just take the taxi at the airport to Swagman hotel at Emrita and take the van direct to Wild Orchid for 600 p,if you can afford 4000 p a night at Wild Orchid why lug your luggage around like this live and learn.
Fast eddie 48.Indeed, guys spending P4 k / night why not just ask the hotel for an airport pickup? Gosh its not much money & you arrive via a first class experience fresh & smiling?
Its all part of the decadent experience.
AV.
MuppetShow
09-09-14, 01:46
So I just got back from my 1st time in A. See. And wanted to pass on a few notes to any other 1st timers. If you read this forum enough you'll pickup some good tips, so do your research, you'll have a better time if you know the lay of the land. I spent 3 weeks in August 2014 in AC and I had a really fantastic time. I saw no evidence of raids or trouble which I had been worried about. I met several really great girls and some not so great girls, had some good nights and got taken advantage of a couple of times. It was my experience that if you aren't firm enough you'll be taken advantage of by some of the girls in the bars but if you learn to be firm but nice you'll have a great time. My example is that I was in the Bunny Ranch on my 3rd night and I locked eyes with this really beautiful 20 yo girl. She came over and asked if I would buy her a drink, which I did, and we started talking. I asked her if I could barfine her but she said not tonight. But maybe tomorrow. So the next night I go back to the Bunny Ranch and as soon as I walk in the same girl sees me and comes right over and sits down with a friend of hers. Not wanting to be rude I buy them both a lady drink and when the waitress comes over to get our order my cute 20 yo says something under her breath I didn't understand...It is good that prices are cheap there, so your damage is nothing. That what they do, the point is you have to be very experienced monger and spend on Fields few months to pick up the rules, at least I have got this impression. Those girls work there, you and me and others are just only "next one" for them to suck out of you money for their food. And that is the issue, they are not get paid enough, poor etc. And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.
I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.
WestCoast1
09-09-14, 03:22
The three of us talk for a while and she's only somewhat affectionate towards me but I'm thinking she's just shy. Another round comes and goes and I finally ask her if she's ready to come with me and then she tells me she's got her monthly visitor, as does her friend. I'm bummed but still thinking it's ok, then the bill comes. What she mumbled to the waitress was "double" so now I'm stuck with a 1400 p bar bill. So the lesson here is that if you're going to be a nice guy and not pay attention you're going to get a few large drink bills. I was a little upset because I felt this girl played me a little but the truth is I let myself get played. If you only want to buy a single lady drink, make sure to be clear with your waitress. If a girl brings over a friend and you don't want to buy her a lady drink, politely decline. If you want to barfine a girl ask upfront if she wants to be barfined by you. She may not want to be. After this experience I was much better about being up front, being polite but firm and saying no when I didn't want to buy a girl a drink, and for the rest of my trip I had a great time.
As someone said "It's important to learn the rules so you know how to break them properly!"Great early and honest report BB49. So many guys could learn from this kind of typical newb mistake by RTTF.
WestCoast1
09-09-14, 03:34
And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.That's correct. But its not always a ripoff. You were wrong before in your assessment of all bars charging p3000, and you are incorrect in that all girls rip guys off. The vast majority of girls follow thru and spend the night and give multiple pops. Your experience is not typical. Also I've found that about 20% are willing to come back outside of her work time (after her shift, or on her day off), for as little as p500 for a session (that's half, or even 1/4 of her normal barfine split).
I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.That's good psychology, but not necessarily correct. Pinay culture is not to do a better job just because you pay better money. It is to get as much money as she can, as often as she can from as many men as she can (opportunism). An example: On Mondays and Thursdays you have a pinay come to your hotel to service you for p1000 each time. She is happy with the arrangement. Then she finds another guy who gives her p5000 for the same thing at his hotel every Wednesday and Saturday. You might think she would give better service to the Wednesday / Saturday guy, but you might be wrong. You might think she'd drop the p1000 guy altogether, or insist to him that he increase her pay to, say, p2000 each time, but you might be wrong. In fact, you might be surprised that if he said he was low on cash, and asked her in txt msg not to come over today (Monday) because he could only give her p500, she might well show up and fuck for that amount also. She is opportunistic to a large degree (p500 is not nearly as good as 5000, but its better than zero -- always).
Other gents?
Member #4698
09-09-14, 04:05
If you want to barfine a girl ask upfront if she wants to be barfined by you. She may not want to be. After this experience I was much better about being up front, being polite but firm and saying no when I didn't want to buy a girl a drink, and for the rest of my trip I had a great time. How do you know you want to barfine a girl before you spend some time with her, buy her a drink or two, and see if she is the right one tonight? Buying drinks for the girls I meet and getting to know them a little is part of the game. It is a fun part of the evening. I love fooling around with the girls in the bar and getting personal if you know what i mean. If after the first or second Tequila shot you are not getting a positive vibe from said girl, say goodnight, and move on to the next bar. It is more complicated that just seeing a pretty girl and propositioning her. I would rather buy a girl a drink or two and end up not barfining her than take a girl that is not into showing me a good time and finding out about it later.
P.S. This BMD (buy me drink only) thing must be a new phenomenon in AC. I never encountered it here and I was last in AC in April. Did I wander onto the Phnom Penh forum by mistake?
It is good that prices are cheap there, so your damage is nothing. That what they do, the point is you have to be very experienced monger and spend on Fields few months to pick up the rules, at least I have got this impression. Those girls work there, you and me and others are just only "next one" for them to suck out of you money for their food. And that is the issue, they are not get paid enough, poor etc. And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.
I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well."Have it your way", marketing jingle from Burger King in the US.
MS, is from a generation of having things their way and on demand. McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and others which provide the same quick generic production line quality and availability. Being young, tall and hansum along with large penis has provided him a long line of available free poon. All lined up for him wherever he goes.
Comes to AC and it is an ego deflating experience, Bg's won't go for free, no long line of free poon, his good looks and large penis along with P3000 can't get a good fuck, every bar is different, where is the McDo of bars. Where you can order by the numbers and have it your way?
Thinking $200 poon is better is like thinking $200 pair of Nike will make you run faster!
I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.You want $200, just go to Makati. But don't necessarily expect better service there. What gets you good service in this country is rapport, not money.
And yes, AC is tricky to figure out for a newcomer, and everybody makes mistakes at first. Personally I wouldn't touch the big show bars with a bargepole, but I knows guys who have learned how to do well even there. There's a lot of useful advice on this forum but ultimately everyone has to put in the time and the effort to figure out an approach that works for them. If you're not willing to do that then you're not going to get much sympathy here.
I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.The old school "cheap charlies" are the guys who made AC great! They knew how to keep prices in check, they new how to standardized the Long Time procedure for the girls, and they knew how not to throw money around spoiling every trike driver, waitress, and door girl.
AC was great until all the wannabe mongers showed up thinking like they knew how to monger. A bunch of novice gangnum style / facebook generation pussies have fucked things up.
The philippinos have also become softer and more welcoming for the pussies to come spend their money. It was better when there was more of dangerous vibe to the place. This scared away all the pussies and left the place for the true mongers (cheap charlie's) to keep things in check.
If you want to spend $200 for a fuck, there are plenty of other places for you in the world! AC is definitely not the place for you!
MuppetShow
09-09-14, 11:20
"Have it your way", marketing jingle from Burger King in the US.
MS, is from a generation of having things their way and on demand. McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and others which provide the same quick generic production line quality and availability. Being young, tall and hansum along with large penis has provided him a long line of available free poon. All lined up for him wherever he goes.
Comes to AC and it is an ego deflating experience, Bg's won't go for free, no long line of free poon, his good looks and large penis along with P3000 can't get a good fuck, every bar is different, where is the McDo of bars. Where you can order by the numbers and have it your way?
Thinking $200 poon is better is like thinking $200 pair of Nike will make you run faster!I have no EGO, you got one, you talking like I have fucked your girlfriend, drop it, and make a reasonable response based on situation on Fields not on me. I witnessed in Crystal Palace one korean threw from second level to dancers 15 k pesos in 1 k bills, others did 5 k in 50 pesos bills, so about 5 different people in 3 hours on Saturday night, so what kind Fields we are talking about? I don't give a fcuk about that fields ave, went there, checked the place, went out and never will be back. Fields is loaded with Koreans and Japanese, interesting how much they pay to girls? I have seen Fields with my own eyes so whatever people say I know what is happening there. It is money oriented place, a game, girls need just money. Yes cheap charlies started the place, but it is not anymore probably as it was. Never been there 5 years ago, nothing to compare with. My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.
Pipe Layer99
09-09-14, 18:00
snip ...... My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.You are not alone. Many guys learn by trail and error. I don't mind buying a cutie a drink to have her sit on my lap and play. It can be fun. However, if I am somewhat interested in taking the girl, I have learned to ask her UPFRONT if she is available to barfine. Right away, you can find out if she available or not, if she is a cherry girl, on her period, or whatever else she might say. If you don't get the reply you want, there no reason to buy her a drink and keep her around. That shit happened to me on my first trip to AC. Me and 2 other guys are in a place and they soon both had a girl. I was looking to grab one too. I called a girl over, she is on my lap and all systems are a go (we are talking, laughing, playfully touching, etc.). I ordered her a drink. As the waitress goes to get the girl a beer, I told her I wanted to take her with me. She said she can't because she was on her period. I was lucky I asked when I did. Otherwise that chick might have gotten 2 drinks. If I was just looking to hang out, fondle her, and mess around, ok fine. But I was looking for some take-out. No need to waste my time and money on buying her a drink.
I learned right away to ask if the girl is available for take out. If she is not, I will interview another one.
The following day, we went to another bar / gogo. I asked the waitress to call over # As soon as the girl arrived, I had her sit with me and we made small talk. I asked if she wants to come party in my room. She said she was a cherry girl. I was like, what? So do you want to come with me. The waitress explained that she was a virgin. So I asked her politely if she wants to come and play. I suggested that she can give me a BJ. She declined. And I decline and buying her a drink.
Started out last night with Det 5 bar. Walked in and the place looked old and tired. Thought WTF I will stay for one drink. Bought a 20 yo spinner a drink, upon talking with her, learned she did not boom boom but she had 2 other sisters working there that did if they liked you. She said most people take the 3 out to party or bar hop and then end of the night picks one of the two for boom boom. No threesome. The 3 sisters were very nice looking but more importantly were very nice and friendly. Too bad they were starting a few days of leave and were not available for BF. Meanwhile the 20 yo pointed out to me a 21 yo spinner to BF, I had the 20 yo go to the 21 yo and do my bidding for me, which was to see if she would fit my guild lines. She qualified and off we went. BTW BF is P1500.
I asked if she wanted something to eat and a shy yes came out of her with a guilty look of wanting Jollibees, so we jeepney over to checkpoint terminal and walked over to Jollibees in the light rain. I am beginning to like this girl as she jeepneys to save me some money. Turns out she is a first timer and been here less than a week. Pretty sweet girl. It starts to rain heavy now at Jollibees so we trike it to the hotel.
After she eats I ask if she wants to shower together and the usual reply, "I am shy". I said let's just try it and she meekly replys, "ok". I am beginning to like her more as she is at least willing to try. After a few minutes in the shower, the unbelievable action starts in the shower. We end up moving our wet bodies to the bed without bothering to dry off. One the top 3 hot passionate girls I have meet in Phils. She stays until 10 am and has completely worn me out even though she cowgirled me most the night.
Sorry guys but I am BF this girl the next 3 nights until I leave AC.
Never know how things will work out. Det 5 didn't look nice inside and learning the 20 yo didn't boom boom after buying her a drink was looking like a losing deal here. Next thing I know, I got one of my top 3! Got to love hunting in A see!
WestCoast1
09-10-14, 05:01
We end up moving our wet bodies to the bed without bothering to dry off. One the top 3 hot passionate girls I have meet in Phils. She stays until 10 am and has completely worn me out even though she cowgirled me most the night.
Sorry guys but I am BF this girl the next 3 nights until I leave AC.
Never know how things will work out. Det 5 didn't look nice inside and learning the 20 yo didn't boom boom after buying her a drink was looking like a losing deal here. Next thing I know, I got one of my top 3! Got to love hunting in A see!Great descriptive report! More details from the next few nights with this honey.
I have no EGO, you got one, you talking like I have fucked your girlfriend, drop it, and make a reasonable response based on situation on Fields not on me. I witnessed in Crystal Palace one korean threw from second level to dancers 15 k pesos in 1 k bills, others did 5 k in 50 pesos bills, so about 5 different people in 3 hours on Saturday night, so what kind Fields we are talking about? I don't give a fcuk about that fields ave, went there, checked the place, went out and never will be back. Fields is loaded with Koreans and Japanese, interesting how much they pay to girls? I have seen Fields with my own eyes so whatever people say I know what is happening there. It is money oriented place, a game, girls need just money. Yes cheap charlies started the place, but it is not anymore probably as it was. Never been there 5 years ago, nothing to compare with. My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.Sorry Muppet, I must have been mistaken about your EGO being deflated.
Streetlooker
09-10-14, 05:49
Hmmm, kind strange responses, did I came here to try your balls mongers? I have said what I have experienced, I do not want to force lady out, I am not on tight budget, I can fucking blow thousands if I want to, those 70 bucks are nothing. I am giving a statement, Fields is a shit hole loaded with prostitutes, low level ones, I had girls in Vegas that do their job properly here just a banana tree girls. There is no need to explain more, I never went especially for Angeles there, I am in Phils more than 6 months already, due to my work, in Angeles I went to check out the place. Yes I consider myself not a monger because I am not running after pussy, like one Korean guy I met in the bar, fucked 6 girls I'd 2 days. That is a monger.
In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me. Here you paying and those cunts not even doing their job properly, LOL, monger destination?Well being that I totally love LAS VEGAS and might soon be living there. IF I had 1000's to blow all the time on mongering I would not have to leave that town ever. MONEY is all you need and if it no object then Vegas is the best mongering town you can be in. Any type girl you would ever want is there for a price. Tall short skinny fat old young good looking ugly Asian ebony Latina Russian blond red head, Thai Korean Brazilian German you name it you can get it. So why I ask did you go all the way to a dirty little town in the middle of a third world country to LOOK around? Oh and I have once fucked 6 girls in 2 days also so guess I am a monger too.
Streetlooker
09-10-14, 05:50
The other town, let me guess. Tijuana?Pattaya Thailand.
Bought a 20 yo spinner a drink, upon talking with her, learned she did not boom boom but she had 2 other sisters working there that did if they liked you. She said most people take the 3 out to party or bar hop and then end of the night picks one of the two for boom boom. No threesome. I didn't know this nonsense was spreading it's way up perimeter road. It's like a cancer!
Streetlooker
09-10-14, 06:23
" I never went there for pussy anyway, to fuck the shit out of ladies is not what I wanted to do on Fields ave. " .
A ten-day escapade in displeasure, eh? And you're surprised that a town known as one of the top two bordellos on the planet would be full of hustlers and grifters? And mystified that Atlantis would want you to order a drink, and quickly, too?
Good thing that you've got your physical attributes going for ya, though. Based on this report (though it is nice to see such an investment for a first one), I don't see the girls banging you for your brains.If anyone thinks I missed one let me know which one I should eliminate and then what town should replace it. IF we tweak it a bit then we might just have the perfect Top 10. Might be cool if you explain why one needs off and the other needs on in its place in your recommendation of change. My list is not necessarily in order of greatness either however but we could also move them up and down the list till we all get it right again add why one needs to be higher on the list and the other lower
10. MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.
9. SAN JOSE CR.
8. PRAGUE CZECH REP.
7. TIJUANA MEXICO
6. RIO DE JANEIRO BRAZIL.
5. SOSUA DOM REP.
4. PATTAYA THAILAND.
3. DUBAI UAE.
2. AMSTERDAM NETHERLANDS.
1. ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES.
WestCoast1
09-10-14, 06:42
My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.
SNIP Also, I'm having some trouble with something else you said:
Where are all of your Field Reports for those places?Since you're still posting, maybe you can answer my question. Where are your FR's (not to mention your full membership)?
Wicked Roger
09-10-14, 07:44
Since you're still posting, maybe you can answer my question. Where are your FR's (not to mention your full membership)?Westie,
I suspect you can ask until pigs will fly but you / me / we will never see his FRs. Hence your suspicion (and mine) that this is disinformation being spread to try and scare away some newbie mongers who may happen to rad the thread. Just like MCobb if we remember.
Am sure someone with a technical bent in IT can try and figure out where he comes from as Jackson did with MCobb.
If anyone thinks I missed one let me know which one I should eliminate and then what town should replace it. IF we tweak it a bit then we might just have the perfect Top 10. Might be cool if you explain why one needs off and the other needs on in its place in your recommendation of change. My list is not necessarily in order of greatness either however but we could also move them up and down the list till we all get it right again add why one needs to be higher on the list and the other lower
10. MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.
9. SAN JOSE CR.
8. PRAGUE CZECH REP.
7. TIJUANA MEXICO
6. RIO DE JANEIRO BRAZIL.
5. SOSUA DOM REP.
4. PATTAYA THAILAND.
3. DUBAI UAE.
2. AMSTERDAM NETHERLANDS.
1. ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES.As far as I'm concerned you can replace Amsterdam by Bangkok.
Amsterdam is not what it used to be anymore. The RLD I mean of course, the rest of the city is still wonderful. And I guess many people like it also because of the coffee shops.
Sorry guys but I am BF this girl the next 3 nights until I leave AC. Damn! Can I buy you out?
I LOVE first timers!
We're all very impressed with how much money you have. Could you tell us more?
Damn! Can I buy you out?
I LOVE first timers!Haha. Not selling for anything! As you very well know you can't buy these first timer experiences. I love turning "simple girl" into a nymph.
ThatGuy865
09-10-14, 18:42
Haha. Not selling for anything! As you very well know you can't buy these first timer experiences. I love turning "simple girl" into a nymph.I'm sorry to inform you. But you are not the one who turned her into a nymph. Some Filipino did that years ago.
She may be new to the Bar. But she dam sure isn't new to fucking. You can take that to the bank.
I'm sorry to inform you. But you are not the one who turned her into a nymph. Some Filipino did that years ago.
She may be new to the Bar. But she dam sure isn't new to fucking. You can take that to the bank.I agree. 100% correct.
I didn't know this nonsense was spreading it's way up perimeter road. It's like a cancer!Hmm I respectfully disagree that this is nonsense. No girl is obliged to go with any guy. Contrary to newb expectations the girly bars in PI are _not_ brothels per se.
You go there to buy watered down over priced drinks while cavorting & fondling with barely dressed Pinays.
If you & her want to leave during her work shift you are obliged to pay a compensation to the bar owner for loss of her (potential) income.
She is not obliged to provide anything more than companionship. Its not legally speaking prostitution.
In reality girls very quickly discover that guys want sex & will pay for it (bf + tip).
Depending on your attractiveness to her (how you behave in the bar & after, looks are secondary but cannot be ignored) the experience will vary from adequate (a bonk & good night kiss, maybe a pop in the morning) to mind blowing (use your imagination).
They are human beings. This cannot be forced. Asking if a girl wants to go with you is normal & the answer is entirely up to her. If throwing a little money around on lady drinks in the bar while having a little fun & checking out a few girls is a problem for you then find a cheaper venue.
AC bars are very cheap compared to Manila / Cebu.
AV.
I'm sorry to inform you. But you are not the one who turned her into a nymph. Some Filipino did that years ago.
She may be new to the Bar. But she dam sure isn't new to fucking. You can take that to the bank.That's true, the fresh off the farm girls have already had their cherry popped by a Pinoy but they are usually very low mileage which leads to more sincere or at least, less hardened interactions.
The tricky ones are the ones who have already done bar work elsewhere or on previous occasions in AC. They try to play the new girl role.
True fresh off the farm girls are usually pretty easy to pick though.
AV.
If anyone thinks I missed one let me know which one I should eliminate and then what town should replace it. IF we tweak it a bit then we might just have the perfect Top 10. Might be cool if you explain why one needs off and the other needs on in its place in your recommendation of change. My list is not necessarily in order of greatness either however but we could also move them up and down the list till we all get it right again add why one needs to be higher on the list and the other lower
10. MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.
9. SAN JOSE CR.
8. PRAGUE CZECH REP.
7. TIJUANA MEXICO
6. RIO DE JANEIRO BRAZIL.
5. SOSUA DOM REP.
4. PATTAYA THAILAND.
3. DUBAI UAE.
2. AMSTERDAM NETHERLANDS.
1. ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES.A highly subjective but amusing topic, and one open to endless discussions on which site is better and why. I can only lay claim to mongering in 4 of these. But it would seem to me Macau should be somewhere in the list. The Chinese don't refer to it as 'Man Heaven' for nothing. Punting is generally not 3rd World cheap here, but the many saunas and fishbowls attract some pretty top flight talent. Lots of it from all over Asia, and to a lesser extent, the CIS and even Africa as well.
Many will argue the very best stay behind in Kiev, Tokyo and Shanghai, and that may well be true. But where else can a man live out his carnal dreams with such varied and plentiful beauties and all at prices Punters in North America and Europe still find a true bargain, at least for the ocassional indulgence?
Just my two ¥.
I'm sorry to inform you. But you are not the one who turned her into a nymph. Some Filipino did that years ago.
She may be new to the Bar. But she dam sure isn't new to fucking. You can take that to the bank.I don't think that is all bankable. No doubt Juan took her cherry but Juan did not give her the big O! Juan is usually finished in 2 minutes due mostly to lack of privacy. It is slam. Bam. Thank you ma'am. Not enough time for the girl to get all worked up and have the big O. We have private rooms with CR allowing for maximum privacy in a town where supposedly no one knows her. As she becomes more comfortable and with foreplay that she has never experienced, she becomes more sexual and if you can last longer than 2 minutes she might have her big O! After that big O, she wants more = nymph.
Disclaimer:
Of course this is my personal preferences in AC bg's. I acknowledge it may not be everyone's cup of tea or experience.
I didn't know this nonsense was spreading it's way up perimeter road. It's like a cancer!You can call it nonsense but there are enough takers for the 3 sisters to go out and have a good time.
Last month I was in Fortunes Hong Kong Seafood restaurant having dinner with a few friends. In comes a nerdy looking 40 yo Caucasian foreigner with 9. Yes 9. Girls. All 9 girls were made up and dressed in low cut tops, short skirts and 6" CFM heels. They take one of the round tables for 10. For the next 30 minutes I can't keep my eyes off of them. I couldn't help but notice that during all this time the nerd was on his laptop, never chatting with any of them let alone touching them!
I guess to him for whatever reason he was having a hell of a time! Probably nonsenseX9 to you.
ThatGuy865
09-11-14, 05:27
I don't think that is all bankable. No doubt Juan took her cherry but Juan did not give her the big O! Juan is usually finished in 2 minutes due mostly to lack of privacy. It is slam. Bam. Thank you ma'am. Not enough time for the girl to get all worked up and have the big O. We have private rooms with CR allowing for maximum privacy in a town where supposedly no one knows her. As she becomes more comfortable and with foreplay that she has never experienced, she becomes more sexual and if you can last longer than 2 minutes she might have her big O! After that big O, she wants more = nymph.
Disclaimer:
Of course this is my personal preferences in AC bg's. I acknowledge it may not be everyone's cup of tea or experience.Keep dreaming. What makes you think. That they don't have privacy. Have you every heard of fields. Jungles. Beaches. You obviously have not been to any of the provinces. They do it everywhere. What makes you think they have to fuck in the house. Why do you think so many have pinoy BF's on the side while they are BG's. They definitely not with them for the money.
But if it pumps your ego. I know. "Your girls different" . She only started getting horny when you showed her.
If anyone thinks I missed one let me know which one I should eliminate and then what town should replace it. IF we tweak it a bit then we might just have the perfect Top 10. Might be cool if you explain why one needs off and the other needs on in its place in your recommendation of change. My list is not necessarily in order of greatness either however but we could also move them up and down the list till we all get it right again add why one needs to be higher on the list and the other lower
10. MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.
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4. PATTAYA THAILAND.
3. DUBAI UAE.
2. AMSTERDAM NETHERLANDS.
1. ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES.Appreciate the insight (would've never thought Montreal would be in the Top 10 -- will check that out! About 5 years ago I found Dubai to be a major pain in the ass, very oppressive with limited venues and ultimately did not partake during my brief time there despite having visited one of the WG hangouts (Rattlesnake or somesuch, man, meforgets). Now perhaps there's a scene with domestic helpers, Pinays or Indos, say, looking for side funds, but even then, doubtful. I'd put Pattaya at No. 1 and AC No. 2. Now if the fuckwads in the PRC will pull their heads out of their asses, Dongguan could conceivably make it back to the top 5. Let's hope.
Your list is definitely missing Medellin Colombia, most of the best looking workers in Costa Rica are Colombian.
If anyone thinks I missed one let me know which one I should eliminate and then what town should replace it. IF we tweak it a bit then we might just have the perfect Top 10. Might be cool if you explain why one needs off and the other needs on in its place in your recommendation of change. My list is not necessarily in order of greatness either however but we could also move them up and down the list till we all get it right again add why one needs to be higher on the list and the other lower
10. MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.
9. SAN JOSE CR.
8. PRAGUE CZECH REP.
7. TIJUANA MEXICO
6. RIO DE JANEIRO BRAZIL.
5. SOSUA DOM REP.
4. PATTAYA THAILAND.
3. DUBAI UAE.
2. AMSTERDAM NETHERLANDS.
1. ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES.
GoodEnough
09-11-14, 08:14
How about Jakarta, and almost the entire continent of Africa?
No doubt Juan took her cherry but Juan did not give her the big O! Juan is usually finished in 2 minutes due mostly to lack of privacy.'No doubt'. The things people convince themselves of that they want to believe. Unless you're a fly on the bedroom wall or out there after midnight in the rice paddy, it's nothing but your imagination and bargirl tales you've taken to heart.
Hmm I respectfully disagree that this is nonsense. No girl is obliged to go with any guy. Contrary to newb expectations the girly bars in PI are _not_ brothels per se.
.Nonsense being that guys pay barfines for girls to take them barhopping then just letting them go at the end of the evening without fucking them. But like a previous poster said, their are plenty of takers (weak mongers) out there who do this.
We all know that ac bars aren't brothels, but the smart mongers leave the non-workers in the bars and take the willing ones out.
Nonsense being that guys pay barfines for girls to take them barhopping then just letting them go at the end of the evening without fucking them. But like a previous poster said, their are plenty of takers (weak mongers) out there who do this.
We all know that ac bars aren't brothels, but the smart mongers leave the non-workers in the bars and take the willing ones out.+1.
I started visiting AC more than 20 years ago and it was ALWAYS in the deal that the barfine you paid included the fuck money for the girl. This made AC different from Burgos and the long-closed and much-missed bars on Roxas such as Vixens. The AC barfine then was for LT, BTW. A few years later a new variable arose; would the girl stay ST or LT? Smart punters soon learnt this was decided in the conversation you'd have with her in the bar. Perhaps things have changed for the worse so it behooves a discerning fella to suss out a girl's acceptance of standard practices even before he buys her a drink. If blokes are going to accept girls only gulping lady drinks and barhopping then that's what they get. Deservedly.
How about Jakarta . . . This suggests why lists like this are pretty useless. Jakarta, for those who really know, is still pretty much as good as it gets in SE Asia. And for that matter, where is China, which isn't easy but has incredible quantity and quality?
Make it a 'favorite' list if you like but don't even pretend it's a 'top ten'.
Pipe Layer99
09-11-14, 20:44
...... Thought WTF I will stay for one drink. Bought a 20 yo spinner a drink, upon talking with her, learned she did not boom boom but she had 2 other sisters working there that did if they liked you. She said most people take the 3 out to party or bar hop and then end of the night picks one of the two for boom boom. No threesome. The 3 sisters were very nice looking but more importantly were very nice and friendly. Too bad they were starting a few days of leave and were not available for BF.Glad you ended up with a good one after talking to the first girl. Sometimes it works out like that.
On another note, the 1st girl was trying to be slick. Why would anyone barfine 3 girls and take ALL of them out to party and only get one in the end? For that, you can go find a girl to party with at the club if that's the case. Seriously, if a guy is looking for sex, no need to pay the barfine for 3, unless he is going to have sex with all 3. Pick the ONE you like and only take her. I think it would be dumb to pay for 3 and in the end you can only have one.
{S N I P}And for that matter, where is China, which isn't easy but has incredible quantity and quality? Make it a 'favorite' list if you like but don't even pretend it's a 'top ten'.Agreed. It is also quite weird, such as the photo below showing 14 girls walking crabs along the street outside a seafood restaurant!
All mongers should experience their Fire and Ice BBBJs, Red Rope Service and the luxury of selecting from 200-300 SYTs at least once in their life.
Member #4698
09-11-14, 22:58
All mongers should experience their Fire and Ice BBBJs, Red Rope Service and the luxury of selecting from 200-300 SYTs at least once in their life.Sadly ChangPing has been shut down by the powers that be. China remains a communist dictatorship. No more Flower Street there. Only a few years ago CP had to rate as one of the top monger destinations on the planet. Macau is still top drawer as far as quality is concerned. Rio Sauna has the best lineup of any bordello I have been to in Asia and I have been to a lot of them, but prices are out of sight. A one hour Rio Sauna session costs 2400 hk ($310) for a Chinese "Model" and 3200 hk ($413) for Japanese "AV Model" quality. East Spa and other Macau Saunas are only slightly (10% to 15%) less expensive.
Member #4698
09-11-14, 23:30
This suggests why lists like this are pretty useless. Jakarta, for those who really know, is still pretty much as good as it gets in SE Asia. And for that matter, where is China, which isn't easy but has incredible quantity and quality?
Make it a 'favorite' list if you like but don't even pretend it's a 'top ten'.I agree. I hate top 10 lists. My favorite destinations in Asia are BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, Singapore, Phnom Penh, Macau, AC, Barrio Barretto, and Manila in no particular order. Medellin, Sao Paulo, and Rio are old favorites of mine in South America, but I prefer Asia. Africa? No thank you, although I have heard good things about Madagascar and I always thought Ethiopian girls are pretty hot.
ThatGuy865
09-11-14, 23:39
Glad you ended up with a good one after talking to the first girl. Sometimes it works out like that.
On another note, the 1st girl was trying to be slick. Why would anyone barfine 3 girls and take ALL of them out to party and only get one in the end? For that, you can go find a girl to party with at the club if that's the case. Seriously, if a guy is looking for sex, no need to pay the barfine for 3, unless he is going to have sex with all 3. Pick the ONE you like and only take her. I think it would be dumb to pay for 3 and in the end you can only have one.Actually I have done that more than once. I had one girl I liked and her friends were cool. Kept everyone laughing.
I would BF all 3. We'd Bar hop, clubbing, sometimes bring them back to the hotel to swim, drink and party. Then at the end of the night I'd send her two friends home. And I'd finish the night with my girl.
It's a matter of having / taking the fun / party where ever you go that night. I have friends we got together. We each BF 3.
3 or 4 guys with 9 to 12 girls. Its amazingly fun. You make your own pool party then on to the suite for indoor fun. Not every time I sent 2 home but I have on more than one occasion.
If you have the means, I highly recommend it. I don't need to Hardcore monger every night. And have the means. Its a great time.
Sadly ChangPing has been shut down by the powers that be. China remains a communist dictatorship. No more Flower Street there. Only a few years ago CP had to rate as one of the top monger destinations on the planet. Macau is still top drawer as far as quality is concerned. Rio Sauna has the best lineup of any bordello I have been to in Asia and I have been to a lot of them, but prices are out of sight. A one hour Rio Sauna session costs 2400 hk ($310) for a Chinese "Model" and 3200 hk ($413) for Japanese "AV Model" quality. East Spa and other Macau Saunas are only slightly (10% to 15%) less expensive.You are 100% correct. I have never even been mongering in Macau because of the ridiculous prices!
However, places come and go (ShaTsui in Shenzhen, ZhuHai, ChangPing etc). The 3000-4000 girls in 8 or so blocks in ShaTsui and the excesses of ChangPing may never return.
New destinations arise out of the ashes like a Phoenix. Already some new places are starting to develop, and they do have Flower Streets, although these days they tend to bring the girls out in batches of 10-12 at a time.
There are also fairly regular (maybe annual) crackdowns at many places which usually slow the BBS action for a couple of months. Interestingly, the latest great crackdown never really impacted Shanghai!
I have lived in Shenzhen for a number of years (totalling 8 years over a 14 year period) and keenly watch the developments in South China. The prices have gone up (but still cheap), and the action is still there for those who do their research.
IMHO, South China should be on everyones' bucket list.
Cheers.
Fastpiston
09-12-14, 00:25
you can call it nonsense but there are enough takers for the 3 sisters to go out and have a good time.
Last month i was in fortunes hong kong seafood restaurant having dinner with a few friends. In comes a nerdy looking 40 yo caucasian foreigner with 9. Yes 9. Girls. All 9 girls were made up and dressed in low cut tops, short skirts and 6" cfm heels. They take one of the round tables for 10. For the next 30 minutes i can't keep my eyes off of them. I couldn't help but notice that during all this time the nerd was on his laptop, never chatting with any of them let alone touching them!
I guess to him for whatever reason he was having a hell of a time! Probably nonsensex9 to you.He was just recharging his battery!
Glad you ended up with a good one after talking to the first girl. Sometimes it works out like that.
On another note, the 1st girl was trying to be slick. Why would anyone barfine 3 girls and take ALL of them out to party and only get one in the end? For that, you can go find a girl to party with at the club if that's the case. Seriously, if a guy is looking for sex, no need to pay the barfine for 3, unless he is going to have sex with all 3. Pick the ONE you like and only take her. I think it would be dumb to pay for 3 and in the end you can only have one.Thank you PL99, the first girl was not being slick. She told me her deal. As to why someone would bf all 3? There have been many that has done that. These sisters seem like they would be a lot of fun to be with. At P1500 each, why not?
I was at one bar the other night and a Caucasian Canadian had 8-9 bg's around him and drinks for every girl. They were all pretty drunk. Apparently he had been there for some time before I got there. About 30 minutes later he bf one girl but I over heard the waitress repeating the "bill out" amount. Over 9 k! Later the waitress said it was his last night and he was going home to canada in the morning. So is not all Koreans or Japanese throwing those pesos around.
Streetlooker
09-12-14, 07:29
As far as I'm concerned you can replace Amsterdam by Bangkok.
Amsterdam is not what it used to be anymore. The RLD I mean of course, the rest of the city is still wonderful. And I guess many people like it also because of the coffee shops.Cool with me But I rather not have 2 places in the same country. So Bangkok is out.
Streetlooker
09-12-14, 07:36
Appreciate the insight (would've never thought Montreal would be in the Top 10 -- will check that out! About 5 years ago I found Dubai to be a major pain in the ass, very oppressive with limited venues and ultimately did not partake during my brief time there despite having visited one of the WG hangouts (Rattlesnake or somesuch, man, meforgets). Now perhaps there's a scene with domestic helpers, Pinays or Indos, say, looking for side funds, but even then, doubtful. I'd put Pattaya at No. 1 and AC No. 2. Now if the fuckwads in the PRC will pull their heads out of their asses, Dongguan could conceivably make it back to the top 5. Let's hope.Heard a lot of good things about Dubai so I put it on the list What I wanted to do was try to get places from around the globe So far I think Dubai coming off and Amsterdam coming off is ok replacements??
Streetlooker
09-12-14, 07:40
How about Jakarta, and almost the entire continent of Africa?Heard good things about jakarta has well so put that on take Dubai off. Put Macau China on take off Amsterdam. Cool with me. AFRICA may well be one huge bordello however AIDS is so rampant there good luck. Now its Ebola too.
Streetlooker
09-12-14, 07:43
This suggests why lists like this are pretty useless. Jakarta, for those who really know, is still pretty much as good as it gets in SE Asia. And for that matter, where is China, which isn't easy but has incredible quantity and quality?
Make it a 'favorite' list if you like but don't even pretend it's a 'top ten'.Got no problems making it a favorite list either I just took off 2 and added 2 so the list is more of a update and improved already.
Streetlooker
09-12-14, 07:52
Sadly ChangPing has been shut down by the powers that be. China remains a communist dictatorship. No more Flower Street there. Only a few years ago CP had to rate as one of the top monger destinations on the planet. Macau is still top drawer as far as quality is concerned. Rio Sauna has the best lineup of any bordello I have been to in Asia and I have been to a lot of them, but prices are out of sight. A one hour Rio Sauna session costs 2400 hk ($310) for a Chinese "Model" and 3200 hk ($413) for Japanese "AV Model" quality. East Spa and other Macau Saunas are only slightly (10% to 15%) less expensive.Course price has something to do with a lot of us regular Joe types and where we can get top quality for our budgets. 300-400 bucks is out of reach for a lot of us. But if money is no object 400 will get you a pretty good looking girl of any type in LAS VEGAS. But who has that kind of cash ? Maybe for a 1-2 time a year thing but no way you can be regularly paying that much unless you are rich has hell.
Las Vegas, bumfk China, I hope everyone is enjoying the AC thread and it's diversions.
Just a photo taken somewhere in AC.
Just a photo taken somewhere in AC.You can put a ring around that!
Pipe Layer99
09-12-14, 14:13
Thank you PL99, the first girl was not being slick. She told me her deal. As to why someone would bf all 3? There have been many that has done that. These sisters seem like they would be a lot of fun to be with. At P1500 each, why not? .... You're welcome DG. I am glad the girl told you her deal first and gave you a good vibe. And she called over another nice one that you liked.
Many times, if it's the girl's idea to take her and her friends out (not the guy's), that could be a red flag. So one needs to be careful about that and trust the vibe you are getting. On the other hand, if it is something that the guy suggests and wants to do, then by all means have at it.
For me, I would rather just barfine the one I like and move the party on. (and keep the additional 3000 p). .
Now in a club it might be a little different. I have on occasion grabbed a girl I like at a club and invited her to my table. Later, I told her she can invite her 3 friends over for a drink (they were sitting across the club at High Society). When they went out to dance, we joined them. Afterwards, they came over and had a drink with us. In that case, I had the girl I wanted, gave her friends some drinks from my bottle, and everyone had fun. At the same time, it did not cost me a few extra barfines.
Course price has something to do with a lot of us regular Joe types and where we can get top quality for our budgets. 300-400 bucks is out of reach for a lot of us. But if money is no object 400 will get you a pretty good looking girl of any type in LAS VEGAS. But who has that kind of cash ? Maybe for a 1-2 time a year thing but no way you can be regularly paying that much unless you are rich has hell.I have been to all the places on the list of ten but do not agree based on my experiences. I have always given Brazil no. 1 because you get the best service in the world here even though it is quite expensive now. China would have made it very high on my list two years ago but there is a crackdown on and it is not what it used to be. Amsterrdam does not belong anywhere near this list. I used to go there in the 1980's /90's but avoid it like the plague for mongering now because it is basically a tourist trap now. One goes there for other touristic activities now, not for mongering. In Europe your best bet are the FKKs in Germany. The Czech Republic is good but does not make it into my top 10. Here is my list:
10. Singapore.
9. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
8. Buenos Aires, Argentina.
7. Tijuana, Mexico.
6. Frankfurt, Germany.
5. Medellin, Colombia.
3. Jakarta, Indonesia.
3. Angeles City, the Philippines.
2. Bangkok / Pattaya, Thailand.
1. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
I can imagine all kinds of top ten lists based on personal criteria, but I can't imagine one without Manila on it. It may be a shithole, but it's monger paradise.
I didn't make it to as many bars as I started out to. Mischief and Det 5 fulfilled all my shopping needs. I took last night off from the Det 5 spinner, she was / is great but I was still lusting for this Mischief spinner. I am on my way home tomorrow and had to have her no matter how great the Det 5 spinner was. Her slutty look caught my lusting eye 4 days ago when I was there but she was on her mens. Most times the lookers are poor performers but she did not disappoint me at all.
I have always given Brazil no. 1 because you get the best service in the world here even though it is quite expensive now.Turgid, I agree with your ranking better, but Buenos Aires at No.8? What about HongKong / Macau? Much better mongering destination than BA, despite the cost. How about Phnom Penh, Cambodia? It's cheap and fun to monger.
Tiradentes
09-13-14, 05:40
1. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.You got the right country. But the wrong city.
Anybody who's been to Rio recently (I. E. The last 5 years) know the action in there suck big time as the city has been cracking down. You basically are left with one big rip off night club (Barbarella) and one big rip off Terma (Centaurus). There are a still a couple of Termas that deserve mention such as MC and 4 X4. That's about it. Sure, there might be casas spread across the City. But who want to go in there?
If you are a Brazilian fan of P4 P, Sao Paulo is the number 1 destination. If you can tolerate the city itself.
Streetlooker
09-13-14, 06:49
You got the right country. But the wrong city.
Anybody who's been to Rio recently (I. E. The last 5 years) know the action in there suck big time as the city has been cracking down. You basically are left with one big rip off night club (Barbarella) and one big rip off Terma (Centaurus). There are a still a couple of Termas that deserve mention such as MC and 4 X4. That's about it. Sure, there might be casas spread across the City. But who want to go in there?
If you are a Brazilian fan of P4 P, Sao Paulo is the number 1 destination. If you can tolerate the city itself.Got to believe the crack down is because of the 2016 Olympic games coming to the city. I always hoped to go to Rio someday but I believe I missed out on its golden era so I go elsewhere. Just wish all the best places where not in Asia thou it seems anyways.
Member #4387
09-13-14, 09:05
My 10 top cities when we speak about fucking girls would be based out from my MO. I like to think I am not fucking all in prostis so my favorite cities will be where there are great nightlife as in party cities and girls taken from certain nightclubs. This is how I operate and still is. Ofcourse over the last 10 years or so various datingsites have opened up a new way for the easy access to loads of pukies but often still in a nicely adjusted combo with my partyactivities. Only God knows when I leave the nightclubs and my clubbingactivity (datingsites incl) for a more quite life in a girliebar somewhere most likely in SEA. Enough spiritual language I am not much of a believer anyway but I will do the clubbingscene as long as I in strange ways can blend in. Ofcourse it starts to get tough have hit the 40 number when my competition and objects run an age averaging in the early 20 ies. But a big doze of healthy life, frequent new style in the facial hair department and hip hop (within reasons as I don't want it to look stupid) outfits can make me last a few years more. Anyway here's my list:
10. Prauge, 9. Budapest, 8. Shanghai, 7. Amsterdam, 6. Caracas, 5. Bogota, 4. Rio de Janeiro, 3. Beijing, 2. Manila, 1. Bangkok.
I have lately changed, as i have a relatively young daughter living in Makati, my activity from maby 30 to 40 visits to Bangkok per year to lower this number and spend much more time in Makati from obvious reasons(but i do still monger while on Makati soil). I do separate quite strongly my fatherly activities and the monger activities just so you know:-) i was almost putting Oslo and Stockholm on the list but as this would be my own playground it would be unfair. Oslo is ofcourse a to small city so i have to behave operating here as my gf would found out any undecent behaving on my behalf in a blink of a second. So here i put on my well behaved mask:-)
I used to monger in Caracas in the 1970's, it was great back then. I last visited Caracas in 2007 and did not monger at all, not worth it, I took a return flight to Lima where I had a rocking time. Actually Manila and Sao Paulo should have been mentioned next to their respective countries although I have never visited Sao Paulo. In my last trip to Buenos Aires it was great in both quantity and quality. I have always used Hong Kong in transit to Changping. My best mongering experience ever has actually been with a HK Chinese in HK but I do not think the scene qualifies in a top ten. Macau probably has the hottest providers on the planet but is way too expensive to be in a top ten. If anyone suggests Angeles City or Bangkok / Pattaya as number one I would not want to disagree with them.
Pip Jaeger
09-14-14, 20:41
I used to monger in Caracas in the 1970's, it was great back then. Wasn't that back when a loaf of bread cost a nickel too? LOL.
Let's see, in the 20's I'd say New York, New Orleans and Chicago with all those loose flappers; the 30's Berlin (but only if you had blond hair, blue eyes and goose stepped) and The Free State of Galveston (Texas); the 40's anywhere there were soldiers' I&I areas; the 50's Havana and Vegas; the 60's SEA and most anywhere the hippies were hanging out at in the USA, especially Cali; the 70's I don't remember due to the chemicals still my system from 60's, but I do remember waking up in 1979 in Miami Beach with a half dozen fresh off the raft naked Cuban spinners in a hotel room wherein it always seemed to be snowing (odd I know considering the balmy weather there); the 80's New York, Vegas, Miami, Frankfort, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Angeles; the 90's were pretty much a repeat of 80's, but more paranoia due to HIV / AIDS; 00's (is that a word?) was married and under house arrest; 10's = I guess that's the great debate now going on in this thread, which, like my post, has little to do Angles City itself.
Hopefully we can get back on topic soon. Thanks DG for your FR's and your attempts at getting us back on track here.
OK Pip, thanks for the redirection. Was in Angeles last month for 4 days. All I can really say is that it was business as usual, maybe with some slight deviations, but the same business model. Will be there again this weekend but mostly business and maybe a little monkey business, but I do have eyes and ears. Will report accordingly.
So fellow mongers, I'm 4/4 on stanky pussies. Is it just my luck or is there a problem with hygiene here in general. I took 2 out of LA cafe, one from EDSA cotton club and now in Angeles at Atlantis. I Thought it was my luck in manilla but the 19 year old spinner I took from Atlantis had the same issue.
Also it really sucks that it is raining here right now. I wanted to take a leisurely stroll on my first night at walking street but instead I'm running from bar to bar in the rain.
Friends,
Can anybody recommend a good massage parlor in AC? I am looking for a good Soapy Massage and an option for full sex is always a great addition.
Fastpiston
09-15-14, 00:15
So fellow mongers, I'm 4/4 on stanky pussies. Is it just my luck or is there a problem with hygiene here in general. I took 2 out of LA cafe, one from EDSA cotton club and now in Angeles at Atlantis. I Thought it was my luck in manilla but the 19 year old spinner I took from Atlantis had the same issue.This was my experience too.
The smell comes from bacteria problems. Just be sure to wear a condom. So many posts talk about this girl and that, but few comment on the smelly pussy. A good number of men I pass in the street are very smelly too. So I guess they cannot smell anything wrong!
Fastpiston
09-15-14, 00:17
You got the right country. But the wrong city.
Anybody who's been to Rio recently (I. E. The last 5 years) know the action in there suck big time as the city has been cracking down. You basically are left with one big rip off night club (Barbarella) and one big rip off Terma (Centaurus). There are a still a couple of Termas that deserve mention such as MC and 4 X4. That's about it. Sure, there might be casas spread across the City. But who want to go in there?
If you are a Brazilian fan of P4 P, Sao Paulo is the number 1 destination. If you can tolerate the city itself.Please go to the Rio / brazil tread.
WestCoast1
09-15-14, 00:55
Friends,
Can anybody recommend a good massage parlor in AC? I am looking for a good Soapy Massage and an option for full sex is always a great addition.I was going to PM you some info regarding massage in AC. Pay up a membership. If you can afford to go to AC, you can afford a membership.
Chocha Monger
09-15-14, 01:29
stinky pussy is a common problem among hookers in the philippines. it can't really be blamed on hygiene because they do wash themselves but soap and water cannot cure what ails them. please remember that bareback is the norm here. this means that the ejaculated jizz and penile skin cells from the mongers who fucked the girl within the last 72 hours are being decomposed by the bacterial flora in her pussy. also, mongers carry yeast, bacteria, and viruses from one pussy to the next. chlamydia is pretty common among bar girls and dating site girls who meet and fuck random mongers. some of these mongers come from places where sexual health is not a big priority. a girl was showing me pictures in her phone and one of them was the photo of an indian monger's dick that looked like it had lichens growing on it. it is not the type of thing any monger wants to see. daty at your own risk!
pay close attention when the girl goes to wash her pussy, if you see her using betadine wash it is a good indication that something is terribly wrong with the pussy. you might want to call off the engagement or wrap your dick up at a minimum.
i had the opportunity to examine the results of the exam the girls do for their certificate to work in the bars. it includes a general blood, [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), and stool test. there was no hiv or std specific testing as many mongers tend to assume.
Also it really sucks that it is raining here right now. I wanted to take a leisurely stroll on my first night at walking street but instead I'm running from bar to bar in the rain.It has been a pretty dry rainy season here this year but typhoon Luis is dumping on northern Luzon right now so suck it up & buy an umbrella ($2). Bars are quiet & girls are hungry for peso's. Get crackin' lad!
AV.
This was my experience too.
The smell comes from bacteria problems. Just be sure to wear a condom. So many posts talk about this girl and that, but few comment on the smelly pussy. A good number of men I pass in the street are very smelly too. So I guess they cannot smell anything wrong!By far most P4 P'ers I've had carry or buy a small bottle of feminine wash & use it in the pre bonk shower (& almost always after). Maybe you guys are rushing things a little?
Even non pro's I've known here are shy about washing their money makers before bonking. Of course gf's get lazy & drop this in longer term relationships but that's not what you guys are talking about.
You smell guys walking by in the street WTF?
AV.
By far most P4 P'ers I've had carry or buy a small bottle of feminine wash & use it in the pre bonk shower (& almost always after). Maybe you guys are rushing things a little?
Even non pro's I've known here are shy about washing their money makers before bonking. Of course gf's get lazy & drop this in longer term relationships but that's not what you guys are talking about.
You smell guys walking by in the street WTF?
AV.It seems the pussy is smelling bad? One of my set up items should be Feminine wash, and ask the lady to use it? Hmmm, I know I can't stand a stinky pussy. Please update on this going forward guys.
Streetlooker
09-15-14, 02:39
Wasn't that back when a loaf of bread cost a nickel too? LOL.
Let's see, in the 20's I'd say New York, New Orleans and Chicago with all those loose flappers; the 30's Berlin (but only if you had blond hair, blue eyes and goose stepped) and The Free State of Galveston (Texas); the 40's anywhere there were soldiers' I&I areas; the 50's Havana and Vegas; the 60's SEA and most anywhere the hippies were hanging out at in the USA, especially Cali; the 70's I don't remember due to the chemicals still my system from 60's, but I do remember waking up in 1979 in Miami Beach with a half dozen fresh off the raft naked Cuban spinners in a hotel room wherein it always seemed to be snowing (odd I know considering the balmy weather there); the 80's New York, Vegas, Miami, Frankfort, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Angeles; the 90's were pretty much a repeat of 80's, but more paranoia due to HIV / AIDS; 00's (is that a word?) was married and under house arrest; 10's = I guess that's the great debate now going on in this thread, which, like my post, has little to do Angles City itself.
Hopefully we can get back on topic soon. Thanks DG for your FR's and your attempts at getting us back on track here.Your thread and this discussion of worldwide mongering destinations has a lot to do with Angeles city. Given that over the course of the last few years mongers have been trying to put the death nail into Angeles city because of all these bar raids and the changes that the city is going thru. The increase in BF prices the diffrent methods the bars are using for BFs the Korean takeover. And on and on and on. It still seems to be up there has the number 1 budget mongering spot in the world even given all its been thru. Only Pattaya seems to be its equal. Discussing other options only gives others a opportunity to introduce us AC lovers a possible better alternative. So far I have not heard of anyone naming that option beside Pattaya for PURE RAW MONGERING VALUE! ANYONE care to try?? And back up the reasons??
Streetlooker
09-15-14, 02:51
So fellow mongers, I'm 4/4 on stanky pussies. Is it just my luck or is there a problem with hygiene here in general. I took 2 out of LA cafe, one from EDSA cotton club and now in Angeles at Atlantis. I Thought it was my luck in manilla but the 19 year old spinner I took from Atlantis had the same issue.I have from time to time experienced the stanky pussy. I however think its cause of the bad luck you might have had picking a girl that just got done banging some other dude hrs before and now your on sloppy seconds or thirds. LA CAFE would IMO be a place this would happen more then normal cause those girls might do a heavy rotation. Another reason is they got a STD don; t have the money to fix it or don; t care and you are now in danger of one also if you don; t wrap your little buddy.
I have from time to time experienced the stanky pussy. I however think its cause of the bad luck you might have had picking a girl that just got done banging some other dude hrs before and now your on sloppy seconds or thirds. LA CAFE would IMO be a place this would happen more then normal cause those girls might do a heavy rotation. Another reason is they got a STD don; t have the money to fix it or don; t care and you are now in danger of one also if you don; t wrap your little buddy.About 1 in 5 girls, in my experience have an odd smell to it. I doubt it was a STD or from just banging some dude. The girls I pick are fresh off the boat. I think it is hygiene issues. Dr. Willie Lee, here in AC also told me some girls are unaware of proper hygiene. I also think the hot and humid climate promotes bacteria growth in the body, especially in tight closed up cavities. After staying in Phils for a while I have noticed that I have a slight body odor by the afternoon even if I have not been sweating.
It is real ironic sometimes because the hot sexy spinner who washes and bathes all the times still has some odor!
Overall, not much different than normal population in my cuntry!
WestCoast1
09-15-14, 05:16
A good number of men I pass in the street are very smelly too. So I guess they cannot smell anything wrong!
You smell guys walking by in the street WTF?
AV.I likes them if they're Bob; I likes them if they're Pete; I likes to smell them anyway; I really likes their feet.
I sniff them on the run; I sniff them where they seat; I likes to smell them anyway; Even where they 'sheet'.
I whiff them as they walk; I whiff them on concrete; I likes to smell them anyway; Especially in the street.
So, I was quite shocked to find out that a lot of Filipino's here tell me I look Filipino. Now I am of Asian decent, but I never got this reaction when I was in Thailand. Most of the ladies there were able to correctly or come very close to getting my race right. This has pros and con's. Bums and the like don't try to sell my watches and stuff on the street. And as long as I don't open my mouth vendors don't quote me high prices. I just point to what I want. The down side is I don't get the "sexy man" cat calls or offers as I walk down the street. Every guy likes his ego fanned a little. Plus sometimes you just aren't sure if that girl standing around is offering services or waiting for a friend.
So, I was quite shocked to find out that a lot of Filipino's here tell me I look Filipino. Now I am of Asian decent, but I never got this reaction when I was in Thailand.A lot of things of uncertain provenance walking around that town. Can only imagine what's it's like in the maternity ward when they see what shows up.
You definately don't come to the Philippines if you're an ass man. I never really hit me until I saw a line up all turn around at the same time. Every single ass was compact and had like a pinched shape. Its as if god took his mighty fingers and just pinched the buttcheeks together when he molded them. There are always exceptions to the norm but I didn't see very many.
My plan for tonight is find blow row and check out perimeter road.
Globe sucks in Angeles. I had to buy a SMART Sim to get reliable 3 G.
Next month I am looking to pop my AC cherry on Night #1 (of course) and I am wondering if walking from ABC to these establishments is safe at night.
Also, what are your top one or two places to find fun, non-starfish women on Fields?
Thanks.
Pip Jaeger
09-15-14, 11:13
. Now I am of Asian decent, SNIP Guess that explains how you were able to pull a girl, stinky or not, from Atlantis, LOL.
It is real ironic sometimes because the hot sexy spinner who washes and bathes all the times still has some odor!
Overall, not much different than normal population in my country!Yep. Hormones have something to do with it. Some girls are more 'musky'. Diet aslo. God they stink when they gorge on that bloody dried fish! Yuck!
AV.
Globe sucks in Angeles. I had to buy a SMART Sim to get reliable 3 G.Correction, Globe sucks on Fields Ave specifically. Why this particular street is a blackspot for Globe I have no idea.
Elswhere in Angeles, Mabalacat it is pretty good. Overall my carrier of choice all over the PI with a fall back to Smart when I hit a Globe blackspot. YMMV.
AV.
Guess that explains how you were able to pull a girl, stinky or not, from Atlantis, LOL.Whats the difficulty of BF'ing girls from Atlantis? I'm nothing special & I no problem getting BF's from there. In fact I have a regular from there who competes (& does well) in the Bikini comp's. Yes they have higher prices for their BF's but obtaining girls is no harder than any other bar, just ask.
AV.
So, I was quite shocked to find out that a lot of Filipino's here tell me I look Filipino. Now I am of Asian decent, but I never got this reaction when I was in Thailand. Most of the ladies there were able to correctly or come very close to getting my race right. This has pros and con's. Bums and the like don't try to sell my watches and stuff on the street. And as long as I don't open my mouth vendors don't quote me high prices. I just point to what I want. The down side is I don't get the "sexy man" cat calls or offers as I walk down the street. Every guy likes his ego fanned a little. Plus sometimes you just aren't sure if that girl standing around is offering services or waiting for a friend.Lower standard of living, poorer education, less exposure to people from other countries means that the average person is poorer at judging race & age.
AV.
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