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It certainly did, thanks for all that useful info.
Why do you not like the Pasha bars (Typhoon, Genesis, Pasha, Fantasy and Carousel)? I hope they haven't gone downhill because when I last visited in 2012 they were probably my favorites. They were very well run places with pretty girls, a good atmosphere and no lady drink pressure. My favorite thing was that they had a policy at their bars in which the girls would take a few steps to the left every song which meant that no matter where you sat, you'd get a great view of all of the girls. Also when the girls left the stage, they'd walk single file around the bar to give the customers a good view.
P.S- interesting that you described Insomnia as 'boobalicious', as that was very much what I thought of the place when I last visited three years ago! In fact I think I might have pondered in my diary whether they have a strict top-heavy employment policy.I agree insomnia has alot of big boob girls which schocked me and made me happy was there Jan. 10 to Feb. 1.
Member #4698
02-04-15, 14:40
I will use your advice, that's for your tough love. I appreciate it my man.Rum, I am glad you did not take my post personally. On review I think I might have been a tad harsh. I know you are excited and looking forward to your first trip. So was I before my cherry trip. You will have a great time as long as you stay within certain broad perimeters of behavior. There are nice girls everywhere. Treat them good and they will embrace you with their warm sexual nature. The Perimeter bars are good for afternoon hookups and the Fields Walking Street bars are great for evening encounters.
Tips: Be aware of the approximate EWR in the bars you intend to visit. Don't be cheap. When you see a girl you like invite her over for a drink to get acquainted and to see if there is a good vibe between you. Trust you instincts. It it feels right, it usually is. If it feels off, move on to another bar. Most girls will want to stay all night and part of the next day. In fact many girls will want to be your GF for the duration of your trip. That is a Pinay personality trait. Do what you like on that score. Remember to ignore the touts and SW's and stick to the bars. Don't overplan your trip because once you arrive all that planning goes out the window on your first night in town. Have a great trip and let us know how you made out.
For what it is worth, my favorite Perimeter bars are Lost In Asia, Det 5, Pony Tails, and Eruptions or Emotions (I get the two mixed up). My favorite Fields Bar are Grand Pharaoh, Insomnia, La Bamba, Angelwitch, Lollipop, and Body Shop.
I will be in AC from Feb. 6 through 8. I've read a lot about the various types of bars (e. G. Fields, Perimeter, Santos, etc.). My preference is a young, slim girl, less experienced, little or no makeup, no kids, who doesn't shave her pussy. My sense from reading the forum is that the girls on Fields tend to be more stunners, more refined, etc. Perimeter girls tend to be more "girl next door" types. Is this an accurate generalization?
Which bars would I likely have the most luck in finding the type of girls I prefer? Any thoughts?
RG.You can definitely find it in the bars, it just takes patience. Every week they arrive from the province, many in the condition you favor. The location of the bar doesn't really factor into it. What you are seeking is a new arrival not yet influenced by the johns and the other pros. When the girl first arrives in AC she almost always knows the mamasan or has a cousin or antie already working in a particular bar so that's where she ends up. Its not like she lands there and goes on job interviews, she ends up where her contact is working. Later that can change but not right away.
So your type of girl can be anywhere. The ones with lots of girls like in Fields proper are the easiest place to find them because of the sheer numbers. My best luck in the recent past was the aformentioned Pasha group but since it changed hands and bar names the talent level and numbers dropped off.
Ask the waitress who are the new girls and look for the ones hiding in the back or sitting quietly with thier legs crossed looking out of place.
You can find them as I always do it just takes time and trips to multiple bars.
I finally made it to the Philippines. Most of my experience comes from Thailand, where I lived for two years. Here's some of my impressions after being here a month. There probably won't be any surprises for those who have already been here.
-Angeles is a hell-hole. But so is Manila. I also spent two weeks traveling around the north of Luzon, and nowhere here is luxurious. The Philippines is a poor country, and that is visible everywhere. Angeles is pretty sketchy too. I never really felt threatened, but I never wanted to get too drunk.
-There's absolutely nothing to do in Angeles during the day. If I didn't have my own stuff to work on during the day, I would go crazy.
-If you have a girl, there's nothing to do at night either, besides take her to Jolibee's. But they will love that.
-I was worried about bar raids. There has been no evidence of raids while I've been in Angeles for three weeks. Everything seems to be operating normally.
-The food is shit. For a while I was dutifully eating pork sisig and chicken adobo. You pretty much have to outside of the cities. But now that I'm back in Angeles I can't stomache pinoy food anymore. But there's no healthy alternative. I'm subsisting on a diet of pizza, burgers, nachos, and donuts here. That kind of food makes me ill. I miss real, healthy food.
-Choreographed dances with hand motions! Half-assed, but mesmerizing. I've never seen Thai bargirls dancing like that.
-Double lady drinks. I guess I didn't RTFF, because I couldn't figure out why I was spending so much at first. The waitresses all made sure I was OK with buying "Lemon," but they didn't make clear that the price was double. Now that I know I always specify a single drink, but that is kind of like starting out with a negative with your disappointed girl.
-The girls are pretty! At least I think so. I tend to get burned out on Isaan girls, and spend an inordinate amount of time looking for the one northern or central girl in Thai gogos. The girls here don't have the ethnic Isaan looks. Some even look kind of European. Rather than coming from just one part of the country, they seem to come from two: Mindonao or Samar. A few I talked to came from somewhere in Luzon. Sure, there's a lot of ugly girls too, but in many bars here I have trouble picking a girl because so many are pretty.
-Everybody has an I'd! Not just the dancers, but everybody in the country seems to have an I'd pinned to them. It seems kind of silly since they could be easily forged.
-The girls are in no hurry to leave. I did have a couple runners, but most girls hang around past noon. The upshot is, three, or even four pops, two at night and / or two in the morning. Thai BG's are usually out the door after the morning session.
-Most girls don't ask for condoms. Danger, Will Robinson!
-English! Some hardly have any, but many are pretty fluent. At first it seemed weird to converse with bargirls. Now I just talk to them normally. They don't have a lot to say.
-The action outside of Angels / Manila / Subic / Cebu is nonexistent. There may have been a couple sketchy little massage parlors and karaoke joints in Baguio, but it was a very local scene.
-Filipinos are huge travelers. As I visited some of the sites in North Luzon, I was usually the only Western tourist, and the places were packed with Filipino tourists, many of them hot women. They travel in huge groups, so approaching them is difficult.
-Small boobs. I'm a boobs man, and I'm pretty disappointed in that regard, although Thailand isn't better. Many of the girls have beautiful, delicate faces, but no boobs. Even when I take girls that appear to have big boobs, it turns out it's all their bra. Compounding the problem is their tiny nipples. I must continue searching for that elusive big-boobed girl.
-An unhealthy obsession with virginity, thanks to the Catholic church. Many girls ask when I lost mine, which is none of their business. The cutest girls are inevitably "cherry girls," who will often let you buy them a drink and waste a half hour talking to them before letting this important fact be known. The closest Thai equivalent would be the dreaded coyote girls.
-Nosiness. This is where I miss the language barrier in Thailand. When I tell them I'm 40 and have never been married they expect me to explain why. It would probably be easier just to say I used to be married. In Thailand saying my job is "computer" was always sufficient, but here they want to know exactly what kind of computer work.
-Glasses. I have a serious love of nerdy girls. Quite a few regular pinay girls wear glasses, and a few dancers do. Whenever I find one I buy her a drink. I never met a Thai bargirl with glasses. I suppose I should just get some novelty glasses and make girls I barfine wear them, but I like knowing they are real.
-Better attitudes. There are exceptions, but in general I think the girls are a lot less mercenary and easy going than in Thailand.
-Really? You love me? This happened to me twice. I think my first girl really was special. Beautiful, 19, two years of university, smart, fluent English. Working to put her brother through seminary (such irony). She was also pretty businesslike, calling her Korean customers every day. But she provided me good GFE service for my first week. During our second session she whispered I love you. I quickly put a stop to that, and she wasn't too taken aback. She was also half-serious about taking me to Mindanao, but I would have had to pay her 2,000 peso barfine for each day. After I left Angeles she called me every day, and I got kind of annoyed after a week and ended it. I also wanted to try new girls.
-Stalking. On my first night back I was pretty horny. An older massage girl sat next to me at Ponytails. She was 31 and spoke poor English, but was sort of cute, but probably only a 7. But she was affectionate, so I paid her barfine. And the sex was really good. But I'm here for young, pretty girls, so I moved on. Two night later I had a 21 year old cutie (who was terrible at sex and did a runner) in my room when my room phone rings. The front desk said baby was here? Baby? WTF? Did I knock up a bargirl already because she didn't ask for a condom? I went down and there was Bebe from Ponytails! She had come by after her shift ended at 9 for a freebie! In my two years living in Thailand, I never had a bargirl come over for a freebie! I had forgotten her name and it was pretty obvious I had another girl in my room, but I asked her to come back tomorrow. Surprisingly, she did, and I got my freebie, but it was freaky. The sex was incredible, but she kept telling me she loved me, like she meant it. She said she would quit the bar to take me to Samar to meet her mom. Most disturbingly, she had found out my last name, and was asking me about my (former) employer. That was the last straw. I gave her 500 pesos, which she was not expecting, to keep the relationship about money. When she texted asking to come over after work again, I "broke up" with her.
-Young, slim, less experienced girls. Despite the comment below, I have found quite a few, and have been gravitating towards them after the older chick fell in love with me. Finding girls like this means biding your time, and rebuffing the flirtation of the older ones. The younger ones are often shyly lurking in the background, and you will have to call them down yourself. I don't think the young ones even know what a condom is.
I think that's all my observations about this place. I have three more nights here before I leave for Palawan, which I'm worried will be extremely boring in comparison.
I finally made it to the Philippines. Most of my experience comes from Thailand, where I lived for two years. Here's some of my impressions after being here a month. There probably won't be any surprises for those who have already been here.
-Angeles is a hell-hole. But so is Manila. I also spent two weeks traveling around the north of Luzon, and nowhere here is luxurious. The Philippines is a poor country, and that is visible everywhere. Angeles is pretty sketchy too. I never really felt threatened, but I never wanted to get too drunk.
-There's absolutely nothing to do in Angeles during the day. If I didn't have my own stuff to work on during the day, I would go crazy.
-If you have a girl, there's nothing to do at night either, besides take her to Jolibee's. But they will love that.
-I was worried about bar raids. There has been no evidence of raids while I've been in Angeles for three weeks. Everything seems to be operating normally.
-The food is shit. For a while I was dutifully eating pork sisig and chicken adobo. You pretty much have to outside of the cities. But now that I'm back in Angeles I can't stomache pinoy food anymore. But there's no healthy alternative. I'm subsisting on a diet of pizza, burgers, nachos, and donuts here. That kind of food makes me ill. I miss real, healthy food.
-Choreographed dances with hand motions! Half-assed, but mesmerizing. I've never seen Thai bargirls dancing like that.
-Double lady drinks. I guess I didn't RTFF, because I couldn't figure out why I was spending so much at first. The waitresses all made sure I was OK with buying "Lemon," but they didn't make clear that the price was double. Now that I know I always specify a single drink, but that is kind of like starting out with a negative with your disappointed girl.
-The girls are pretty! At least I think so. I tend to get burned out on Isaan girls, and spend an inordinate amount of time looking for the one northern or central girl in Thai gogos. The girls here don't have the ethnic Isaan looks. Some even look kind of European. Rather than coming from just one part of the country, they seem to come from two: Mindonao or Samar. A few I talked to came from somewhere in Luzon. Sure, there's a lot of ugly girls too, but in many bars here I have trouble picking a girl because so many are pretty.
-Everybody has an I'd! Not just the dancers, but everybody in the country seems to have an I'd pinned to them. It seems kind of silly since they could be easily forged.
-The girls are in no hurry to leave. I did have a couple runners, but most girls hang around past noon. The upshot is, three, or even four pops, two at night and / or two in the morning. Thai BG's are usually out the door after the morning session.
-Most girls don't ask for condoms. Danger, Will Robinson!
-English! Some hardly have any, but many are pretty fluent. At first it seemed weird to converse with bargirls. Now I just talk to them normally. They don't have a lot to say.
-The action outside of Angels / Manila / Subic / Cebu is nonexistent. There may have been a couple sketchy little massage parlors and karaoke joints in Baguio, but it was a very local scene.
-Filipinos are huge travelers. As I visited some of the sites in North Luzon, I was usually the only Western tourist, and the places were packed with Filipino tourists, many of them hot women. They travel in huge groups, so approaching them is difficult.
-Small boobs. I'm a boobs man, and I'm pretty disappointed in that regard, although Thailand isn't better. Many of the girls have beautiful, delicate faces, but no boobs. Even when I take girls that appear to have big boobs, it turns out it's all their bra. Compounding the problem is their tiny nipples. I must continue searching for that elusive big-boobed girl.
-An unhealthy obsession with virginity, thanks to the Catholic church. Many girls ask when I lost mine, which is none of their business. The cutest girls are inevitably "cherry girls," who will often let you buy them a drink and waste a half hour talking to them before letting this important fact be known. The closest Thai equivalent would be the dreaded coyote girls.
-Nosiness. This is where I miss the language barrier in Thailand. When I tell them I'm 40 and have never been married they expect me to explain why. It would probably be easier just to say I used to be married. In Thailand saying my job is "computer" was always sufficient, but here they want to know exactly what kind of computer work.
-Glasses. I have a serious love of nerdy girls. Quite a few regular pinay girls wear glasses, and a few dancers do. Whenever I find one I buy her a drink. I never met a Thai bargirl with glasses. I suppose I should just get some novelty glasses and make girls I barfine wear them, but I like knowing they are real.
-Better attitudes. There are exceptions, but in general I think the girls are a lot less mercenary and easy going than in Thailand.
-Really? You love me? This happened to me twice. I think my first girl really was special. Beautiful, 19, two years of university, smart, fluent English. Working to put her brother through seminary (such irony). She was also pretty businesslike, calling her Korean customers every day. But she provided me good GFE service for my first week. During our second session she whispered I love you. I quickly put a stop to that, and she wasn't too taken aback. She was also half-serious about taking me to Mindanao, but I would have had to pay her 2,000 peso barfine for each day. After I left Angeles she called me every day, and I got kind of annoyed after a week and ended it. I also wanted to try new girls.
-Stalking. On my first night back I was pretty horny. An older massage girl sat next to me at Ponytails. She was 31 and spoke poor English, but was sort of cute, but probably only a 7. But she was affectionate, so I paid her barfine. And the sex was really good. But I'm here for young, pretty girls, so I moved on. Two night later I had a 21 year old cutie (who was terrible at sex and did a runner) in my room when my room phone rings. The front desk said baby was here? Baby? WTF? Did I knock up a bargirl already because she didn't ask for a condom? I went down and there was Bebe from Ponytails! She had come by after her shift ended at 9 for a freebie! In my two years living in Thailand, I never had a bargirl come over for a freebie! I had forgotten her name and it was pretty obvious I had another girl in my room, but I asked her to come back tomorrow. Surprisingly, she did, and I got my freebie, but it was freaky. The sex was incredible, but she kept telling me she loved me, like she meant it. She said she would quit the bar to take me to Samar to meet her mom. Most disturbingly, she had found out my last name, and was asking me about my (former) employer. That was the last straw. I gave her 500 pesos, which she was not expecting, to keep the relationship about money. When she texted asking to come over after work again, I "broke up" with her.
-Young, slim, less experienced girls. Despite the comment below, I have found quite a few, and have been gravitating towards them after the older chick fell in love with me. Finding girls like this means biding your time, and rebuffing the flirtation of the older ones. The younger ones are often shyly lurking in the background, and you will have to call them down yourself. I don't think the young ones even know what a condom is.
I think that's all my observations about this place. I have three more nights here before I leave for Palawan, which I'm worried will be extremely boring in comparison.Can you imagine what it is like to work there? Forget office romances. And far too much gossip. I gave up bringing girls back to my condo until I found myself a steady girlfriend because somehow it would get back to someone I knew, even to the office. It was probably via the guards or the maids or both. In the metropolis of Manila with 14 million or more, you never know who knows who or who is related to who.
I began to stick to massage places where you could get FS, GFE and GO! No stalking, no nonsense, no reports going back to other people such as my colleagues. There was a great place from from my work location on a street behind the big malls in Makati which has girls in their mid-twenties or younger and where FS could be had for $40 - sadly now long gone. FS was even cheaper in some of the other more run-down places in town if you went there more than once.
Visitors to the Philippines or those who retire in the provinces probably do not realise how hypocritical the place is, For instance, all married men with a little money have mistresses and many are also sugar daddies or have P4 P setups on the side but they will think of nothing to condemn you if you brought a bar girl back to your place for some private fun. And almost everyone lies or just does not tell you what is really going on. Everything is on a "need to know" basis and they just decide you do not need to know!
It is so easy to find yourself in some sort of official girl-friend relationship in the Philippines. That is why I always kept it commercial with a payment, even for taxi, every time until I found a steady GF who was educated and no bullshit. There is nothing worse than being stuck for a few days with an empty-headed bimbo all day, especially a chatty one, no matter how great the sex is!
I found the central and south of Philippines much nicer. Genuinely friendly people, less gossipy and, with some exceptions, much safer. I could walk around Cebu city even at night and take jeepneys. Something I would never do in Manila due to security issues.
Food is really an issue in the Philippines. I started piling on the kilos because of the very high calorie / high sugar diet. I had to learn to take charge of my diet, not to let people cook for me etc. For instance, I would always bring my own breakfast when I travelled to avoid the sugar hell they serve up in many hotels.
Yes, everyone must visit Angeles but actually it is not really that great when compared with equivalent places in Thailand. There is not a lot to do in the Philippines as either nothing is going on in your area most of the time or the traffic is just too hellish to be worth the trip. I took a cheap flight almost every second weekend to get out of Manila. Stayed in many of the cities in the south and found some enjoyment there. Part of the problem was the lack of people to have a meaningful conversation with. There are so few expats living in Manila compared to other cities and the Luzon people were extremely clanish.
Even though I used to travel a lot in Phil, you had to keep good intel and to be careful not to venture to the places where the kidnap rate was high. For instance, there were direct flights from Manila to Zaraboanga but I was reliably told that an expat would probably be kidnapped within an hour of arrival there. But perhaps that has changed too.
Were you having a bad day when you wrote this. If you are that offended by the question, let it go. Ignore it and move on. Somebody answered it anyway.Not sure why some of the more experieced guys say that so much. It is usually a simple question and the reply is usually longer that it would take to answer the question. But this is the life. Still I get great information from this forum. Looking forward to touching down in AC in a few weeks.
Luke Skywalker
02-05-15, 08:56
It certainly did, thanks for all that useful info.
Why do you not like the Pasha bars (Typhoon, Genesis, Pasha, Fantasy and Carousel)? I hope they haven't gone downhill because when I last visited in 2012 they were probably my favorites. They were very well run places with pretty girls, a good atmosphere and no lady drink pressure. My favorite thing was that they had a policy at their bars in which the girls would take a few steps to the left every song which meant that no matter where you sat, you'd get a great view of all of the girls. Also when the girls left the stage, they'd walk single file around the bar to give the customers a good view.
P.S- interesting that you described Insomnia as 'boobalicious', as that was very much what I thought of the place when I last visited three years ago! In fact I think I might have pondered in my diary whether they have a strict top-heavy employment policy.As for the Pasha group; I just don't like the vibe. The girls at Carousel (its called something else now) always look bored and are unresponsive to any remote chatter. Nemesis is a Korean / Chinese / Japanese bar. That's who the girls are waiting for. My buddy called 2 cuties down last time and both had demands on their time and tip! Equus (Fantasy) has gone way downhill. Boring bar. All in all I find the Pasha bar girls to be a little snobbish for no good reason and no fun. Could just be me. Maybe they've stocked up with fun stunners?
P. S The owner of Insomnia and the D-Club (I won't scream his name out) is a portly chap (that's being polite!) from the UK and it has been discussed that he does indeed like to employ girls with big boobs! I've been there so many times I can't count. One trip its outrageously good. Next trip, kinda disappointing. Next trip its a boob paradise! Hopefully its in an upswing when you get there!
I've had this experience twice already, so I'm writing my advice here.
Jeepney seats are arranged as two opposite benches, one to the right and the other to the left of the cabin.
When going on a Jeepney at the first station (the terminal), people would usually sit down at the order of climbing in. That means, first ones would usually sit at the back (near the door) and then the following passengers would sit besides them, until the last ones reach the front of the cabin. In some cases things could work exactly the opposite way, but never in a random order.
If you see a person insisting to sit somewhere in the middle of the bench (in-between two people already sitting there), this is a sign of trouble. That person knows why he would like to sit in that position. Usually he "enjoys" the company of the person on his left or right side, for the purpose of checking out the content of his pockets. In addition, be aware of any (empty) bag on that person's lap. It is placed there to hide his hand as it is making way towards the pocket of the person sitting next to him.
If you see one or both signals, you probably had the luck to meet one of those guys who would pick your pocket. Usually they would give up the idea if and when they know you are on to them. Just a look might be enough to pass the message.
When going on a Jeepney at the first station (the terminal), people would usually sit down at the order of climbing in. In a Jeepney I prefer to sit at the back, next to the door. So I have only one "neighbor" to watch. And in case the Jeepney is already half full or almost full, I just hop onto the next, still empty Jeepney waiting behind.
Radical Guy
02-05-15, 14:11
In a Jeepney I prefer to sit at the back, next to the door. So I have only one "neighbor" to watch. And in case the Jeepney is already half full or almost full, I just hop onto the next, still empty Jeepney waiting behind.I am a pretty big guy with long legs, so I usually offer ther person sitting at the end 20 pesos to give me his or her place.
RG.
-English! Some hardly have any, but many are pretty fluent. At first it seemed weird to converse with bargirls. Now I just talk to them normally. They don't have a lot to say.
-Nosiness. This is where I miss the language barrier in Thailand. When I tell them I'm 40 and have never been married they expect me to explain why. It would probably be easier just to say I used to be married. In Thailand saying my job is "computer" was always sufficient, but here they want to know exactly what kind of computer work.All your talk normally to them gets either 'they don't have a lot to say' or 'nosiness' can't possibly be attributed to your conversational skills.
LuvAsianTang
02-05-15, 19:27
Yes it is accurate.
You can find young, slim, less experienced girls with little or no make up in almost any bar on Fields. However the majority of them has a kid (sometimes more than one) and a shaved pussy.When I first started going to the philippines back in the mid 70's they all had hairy little puntangs. But with hairy pun's comes itchy little critters and about 25% of them had crab lice. Haha I used to go directly to the drugstore and buy a six pack of quell for the trip. If I really liked the girl I would share some with her and then keep her for a week or so and go traveling around the islands. But I believe that is why they mostly all shave their tiny little puddy tangs now. They will tell you "for hygiene" , I guess that's what they call getting rid of crabs. They still get head lice and that's why I keep my head shaved, "hygiene" .
Happy crab free pooning, LAT.
FreebieFan
02-06-15, 02:19
If you see a person insisting to sit somewhere in the middle of the bench (in-between two people already sitting there), this is a sign of trouble. That person knows why he would like to sit in that position. Usually he "enjoys" the company of the person on his left or right side, for the purpose of checking out the content of his pockets. In addition, be aware of any (empty) bag on that person's lap. It is placed there to hide his hand as it is making way towards the pocket of the person sitting next to him.
If you see one or both signals, you probably had the luck to meet one of those guys who would pick your pocket. Usually they would give up the idea if and when they know you are on to them. Just a look might be enough to pass the message.Not forgetting the standard "diversion " tactic of dropping something on the floor. You go to pick it up for them and in that moment, you lost something. Anyone drops something, you ignore it.
But I believe that is why they mostly all shave their tiny little puddy tangs now. They will tell you "for hygiene" , I guess that's what they call getting rid of crabs. They shave because that is what the market demands. Westerners prefer shaved pussies, and when the girls start work, the mamas tell them to shave. It's all about money!
They shave because guys like me like them shaved. Wish some would shave their legs too! Once in a while you find a girl fresh from the province unshaven. Never heard of anyone with lice or crabs.
Back in the 1900's no one shaved! Now with the invention of safety razors why not? I find it pretty erotic to have a girl shave my twins.
I've had this experience twice already, so I'm writing my advice here.
Jeepney seats are arranged as two opposite benches, one to the right and the other to the left of the cabin.
When going on a Jeepney at the first station (the terminal), people would usually sit down at the order of climbing in. That means, first ones would usually sit at the back (near the door) and then the following passengers would sit besides them, until the last ones reach the front of the cabin. In some cases things could work exactly the opposite way, but never in a random order.
If you see a person insisting to sit somewhere in the middle of the bench (in-between two people already sitting there), this is a sign of trouble. That person knows why he would like to sit in that position. Usually he "enjoys" the company of the person on his left or right side, for the purpose of checking out the content of his pockets. In addition, be aware of any (empty) bag on that person's lap. It is placed there to hide his hand as it is making way towards the pocket of the person sitting next to him.
If you see one or both signals, you probably had the luck to meet one of those guys who would pick your pocket. Usually they would give up the idea if and when they know you are on to them. Just a look might be enough to pass the message.I had 2 attempts to pick my pocket on a jeepney. The last one was just as described with the guy holding a large bag on his lap with one arm on top to fool you. Joke was on him as my front pockets are empty. I keep my money and room key in my buttoned back pockets which I sit on. The first time, the guy sitting next to me was play texting on his cell with both hands while his buddy on the other side reached behind him to fish in my empty front pocket. Only way I could tell was my pocket flaps were open and not velcro closed. They are pretty good at it! I am thinking of putting a stack of cut up papers the size of bills in my pocket for some laughs.
When I first started going to the philippines back in the mid 70's they all had hairy little puntangs. But with hairy pun's comes itchy little critters and about 25% of them had crab lice. Haha I used to go directly to the drugstore and buy a six pack of quell for the trip. If I really liked the girl I would share some with her and then keep her for a week or so and go traveling around the islands. But I believe that is why they mostly all shave their tiny little puddy tangs now. They will tell you "for hygiene" , I guess that's what they call getting rid of crabs. They still get head lice and that's why I keep my head shaved, "hygiene" .
Happy crab free pooning, LAT.Great satire.
Its funny how legends still exist.
-The food is shit. For a while I was dutifully eating pork sisig and chicken adobo. You pretty much have to outside of the cities. But now that I'm back in Angeles I can't stomache pinoy food anymore. But there's no healthy alternative. I'm subsisting on a diet of pizza, burgers, nachos, and donuts here. That kind of food makes me ill. I miss real, healthy food.Go to Margarita Station, they have decent food there.
Or Swiss Chalet but that's more expensive.
Most girls don't ask for condoms. Danger, Will Robinson!Apparently YMMV because in my experience most of them do ask for condoms. However if you prefer BB 99% don't mind.
Maybe you just happened to bar fine the 'clueless' ones.
-The girls are pretty! At least I think so. I tend to get burned out on Isaan girls, and spend an inordinate amount of time looking for the one northern or central girl in Thai gogos. The girls here don't have the ethnic Isaan looks. Some even look kind of European.The girls here don't have the ethnic Isaan looks.... No kidding, LOL!
The Philippines have been a Spanish and American colony for a long time so it's not strange that some of them look European / Caucasian.
-An unhealthy obsession with virginity, thanks to the Catholic church. Many girls ask when I lost mine, which is none of their business. The cutest girls are inevitably "cherry girls," who will often let you buy them a drink and waste a half hour talking to them before letting this important fact be known.The cherry girls have a big 'V' written on at least one of the ID-cards (or whatever they are) that dangle around their necks. The V for Virgin.
Llantarnam
02-06-15, 19:53
T I find it pretty erotic to have a girl shave my twins.Safety or cut-throat?
Llantarnam
02-06-15, 19:54
The V for Virgin.I thought the V was for Very expensive.
Safety or cut-throat?What you mean Willis?
I thought the V was for Very expensive.Then the tag would be VE!
What you mean Willis?Old fashioned razors:
o Safety or double edge blade.
o Cutthroat or straight razor (sharpened on a strop).
Planning a trip in May for a milestone birthday, so want to have lots of fun.
I love two girl BBBJs. To me as close to heaven as one can get. Do all girl friendly motels not have an issue with bringing more than one lady back for LT?
Two most of the time, and maybe even 3 if the girls "insist on it" and have never done that LT. LOL.
Want to stay at ABC, but they don't appear to have availability. What should be next on my list? Not because of the luxury as much as I like the pool, Jacuzzi in room and over the top decorating of ABC.
Wild Orchid?
Pacific Breeze?
Central Park. Confused by this one. Are there two very similar named?
Lewis seems too far from the fun.
Thanks much for your time!
My question is to seasoned seniors like Terry and likes. Which is better place between Thailand and Philippines in terms of quality of girls, P4P etc. Which place can give overall returns on the $£€ we pump in.
Thanks
Radical Guy
02-07-15, 05:06
They shave because guys like me like them shaved. Wish some would shave their legs too! Once in a while you find a girl fresh from the province unshaven. Never heard of anyone with lice or crabs.
Back in the 1900's no one shaved! Now with the invention of safety razors why not? I find it pretty erotic to have a girl shave my twins.Well, I suppose it's just a matter of taste and preference. As for me, I kind of like the idea that I'm with a primitive, uncivilized jungle girl who never heard of such western niceties as razors. I love to bury my face in a full, untamed bush and explore the treasures that can be found within.
Also, my ex-wife was a woman who insisted on shaving, so I suppose I'm turned off to anything that reminds me of her. LOL.
RG.
LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 06:05
They shave because guys like me like them shaved. Wish some would shave their legs too! Once in a while you find a girl fresh from the province unshaven. Never heard of anyone with lice or crabs.
Back in the 1900's no one shaved! Now with the invention of safety razors why not? I find it pretty erotic to have a girl shave my twins.Um, have you ever seen them picking each others scalps? What do you think they are looking for. I don't think you really know wtf you are talking about. I have seen lice fall from their heads after a good shampooing with quell, I'm not making this shite up. I don't find anything at all attractive about a pussy that looks like a baby's pussy I prefer them to be natural. Most asian girls have very soft, or non existent leg hair, so they don't need to shave their legs like european girls do. Most of the asian girls who do shave their tangs don't do it every day so they end up with stubble that pokes little holes in your tongue or dick, inoculating you with what ever they have in their juices. Does this sound safe to you? Some Filippinas have little or no hair on their coochies and you can usually tell by their eyebrows. You know the ones I'm talking about, the sparse little patch of a triangle pointing down to the tip of her love button, and bare from there with nothing surrounding the lips? Those are the ones I really look for.
These statements are personal observations over 40 years of mongering in asia, so please don't dispute them.
Just my 20 p LAT.
LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 06:22
Planning a trip in May for a milestone birthday, so want to have lots of fun.
I love two girl BBBJs. To me as close to heaven as one can get. Do all girl friendly motels not have an issue with bringing more than one lady back for LT?
Two most of the time, and maybe even 3 if the girls "insist on it" and have never done that LT. LOL.
Want to stay at ABC, but they don't appear to have availability. What should be next on my list? Not because of the luxury as much as I like the pool, Jacuzzi in room and over the top decorating of ABC.
Wild Orchid?
Pacific Breeze?
Central Park. Confused by this one. Are there two very similar named?
Lewis seems too far from the fun.
Thanks much for your time!Many of the hotels will let you bring in 2 girls but some want extra pesos for the extra girl.
LAT.
My question is to seasoned seniors like Terry and likes. Which is better place between Thailand and Philippines in terms of quality of girls, P4P etc. Which place can give overall returns on the $ we pump in.
ThanksBoth places have their pluses and minuses. I think, for me, if I only consider the girls, the Philippines wins. I like their faces better, it's easier to get a good GFE, and they will let you get in 3 or maybe 4 pops. Of course YMMV. But Philippines is much poorer than Thailand, so I find hanging around here is a little depressing. For cost, it's a wash.
For some the fact that pinays don't ask for condoms is a plus. Well, that caught up to me pretty quick, and I had to go to a sketchy clinic for a shot in the ass. I wonder about the guys who say then never use a condom, and claim to have never caught anything. They probably have asymptomatic gonorrhea.
Um, have you ever seen them picking each others scalps? What do you think they are looking for. I don't think you really know wtf you are talking about. I have seen lice fall from their heads after a good shampooing with quell, I'm not making this shite up. I don't find anything at all attractive about a pussy that looks like a baby's pussy I prefer them to be natural. Most asian girls have very soft, or non existent leg hair, so they don't need to shave their legs like european girls do. Most of the asian girls who do shave their tangs don't do it every day so they end up with stubble that pokes little holes in your tongue or dick, inoculating you with what ever they have in their juices. Does this sound safe to you? Some Filippinas have little or no hair on their coochies and you can usually tell by their eyebrows. You know the ones I'm talking about, the sparse little patch of a triangle pointing down to the tip of her love button, and bare from there with nothing surrounding the lips? Those are the ones I really look for.
These statements are personal observations over 40 years of mongering in asia, so please don't dispute them.
Just my 20 p LAT.I agree with you 100%.
The only thing that I would add is that head lice and pubic lice are different species. Strange, but head lice will do their best to return to the girl's head if shaken onto their pubes. And pubic lice will not live on girls' heads.
I too, love natural white tigers, and dislike the shaved variety. But I must have been unlucky as I have found few naturals in PI. Girls with the recessive gene that causes the lack of pubic hair, are significantly more common in China.
Ikksman.
Um, have you ever seen them picking each others scalps? What do you think they are looking for. I don't think you really know wtf you are talking about. I have seen lice fall from their heads after a good shampooing with quell, I'm not making this shite up. I don't find anything at all attractive about a pussy that looks like a baby's pussy I prefer them to be natural. Most asian girls have very soft, or non existent leg hair, so they don't need to shave their legs like european girls do. Most of the asian girls who do shave their tangs don't do it every day so they end up with stubble that pokes little holes in your tongue or dick, inoculating you with what ever they have in their juices. Does this sound safe to you? Some Filippinas have little or no hair on their coochies and you can usually tell by their eyebrows. You know the ones I'm talking about, the sparse little patch of a triangle pointing down to the tip of her love button, and bare from there with nothing surrounding the lips? Those are the ones I really look for.
These statements are personal observations over 40 years of mongering in asia, so please don't dispute them.
Just my 20 p LAT.I know what I am talking about in my world. I am sure it is the same for you. Have your lice day sir!
My question is to seasoned seniors like Terry and likes. Which is better place between Thailand and Philippines in terms of quality of girls, P4P etc. Which place can give overall returns on the $ we pump in.
ThanksRTFF, it's probably the most talked subject here.
I personally prefer Philippine:
- more types of girls as they mixed with Europeans and other ethnicities. You find something for every taste.
- most of them talk English.
- better attitude in bed. More into it, but also more GFE.
- girls cheaper (especially Angeles), but hotels slightly more expensive.
Thai:
- usually more girls (Pattaya, etc.) than in Philippines, so it's better on first sight. But who needs 20-thousands of girls that all seem to look the same. So I'm more happy with maybe a 10-thousand girls "only" in Philis, but more variety in styles. There's enough girls in Philis for sure (ok, now please don't argue how many hookers there are in Angeles. I heard already numbers between 10 K and more than 100 K. Does it really make a difference? Yes, Pattay might have more, but you can fuck max a few dozenz in a normal vacation).
- the "average" Thai girl is better looking by common standards (thin, clear skin, dark long hair etc.) - of course always a matter of personal taste. But you'll find the same girl-type also in Philis, just you find in addition more fat girls, more dark girls, some (not many, but yes, they exist compared to Thailand) that really have boobs etc. In Philis. If you fuck a few weeks in Thailand and all are looking similar, you will welcome Philis as you can find in addition busty girls, European-looking ones etc. So if you enter a bar in Thailand 80% are maybe pretty by those standards and in Philis just 50%, but those 50% have more variety and are still more than enough to fuck in your whole life.
- Thailand has far better safety and tourist infrastructure. You can find girls everywhere while in Philippines it's more restricted. It won't make a big difference if you go to Angeles vs. Pattaya as you cannot fuck all of them anyway (but you should keep on trying! But in Thailand you can go to remote islands and still find at least one bar there. So you can better combine traditional holidays with mongering. In Philis, Angeles is a really shitty place for everything except mongering, Cebu is maybe the best in Philippines to combine traditional holidays with mongering.
- in Thailand there's less annoyance: less beggars, many girls insist on condoms (while still some in Philippines seem hardly to know condoms, which I think is very risky even though there are many assholes enjoying this and bringing STDs to all of us), security is far better, food is far better, less pickpocketing in Thailand, less tourist traps, you can go with a streetwalker (which is a no-go in Philippines. Especially in Angeles), etc.
In a nutshell: if it's ONLY girls, go to Philippines, if you want to do anything else than strolling between hotel and lady-bars in your holidays, go to Thailand.
My question is to seasoned seniors like Terry and likes. Which is better place between Thailand and Philippines in terms of quality of girls, P4P etc. Which place can give overall returns on the $ we pump in.
ThanksRTFF, it's probably the most talked subject here.
I personally prefer Philippine:
- more types of girls as they mixed with Europeans and other ethnicities. You find something for every taste.
- most of them talk English.
- better attitude in bed. More into it, but also more GFE.
- girls cheaper (especially Angeles), but hotels slightly more expensive.
Thai:
- usually more girls (Pattaya, etc.) than in Philippines, so it's better on first sight. But who needs 20-thousands of girls that all seem to look the same. So I'm more happy with maybe a 10-thousand girls "only" in Philis, but more variety in styles. There's enough girls in Philis for sure (ok, now please don't argue how many hookers there are in Angeles. I heard already numbers between 10 K and more than 100 K. Does it really make a difference? Yes, Pattay might have more, but you can fuck max a few dozens in a normal vacation).
- the "average" Thai girl is better looking by common standards (thin, clear skin, dark long hair etc.) - of course always a matter of personal taste. But you'll find the same girl-type also in Philis, just you find in addition more fat girls, more dark girls, some (not many, but yes, they exist compared to Thailand) that really have boobs etc. In Philis. If you fuck a few weeks in Thailand and all are looking similar, you will welcome Philis as you can find in addition busty girls, European-looking ones etc. So if you enter a bar in Thailand 80% are maybe pretty by those standards and in Philis just 50%, but those 50% have more variety and are still more than enough to fuck in your whole life.
- Thailand has far better safety and tourist infrastructure. You can find girls everywhere while in Philippines it's more restricted. It won't make a big difference if you go to Angeles vs. Pattaya as you cannot fuck all of them anyway (but you should keep on trying! But in Thailand you can go to remote islands and still find at least one bar there. So you can better combine traditional holidays with mongering. In Philis, Angeles is a really shitty place for everything except mongering, Cebu is maybe the best in Philippines to combine traditional holidays with mongering.
- in Thailand there's less annoyance: less beggars, many girls insist on condoms (while still some in Philippines seem hardly to know condoms, which I think is very risky even though there are many assholes enjoying this and bringing STDs to all of us), security is far better, food is far better, less pickpocketing in Thailand, less tourist traps, you can go with a streetwalker (which is a no-go in Philippines. Especially in Angeles), etc.
In a nutshell: if it's ONLY girls, go to Philippines, if you want to do anything else than strolling between hotel and lady-bars in your holidays, go to Thailand.
They shave because guys like me like them shaved. Wish some would shave their legs too! Once in a while you find a girl fresh from the province unshaven. Never heard of anyone with lice or crabs.
Back in the 1900's no one shaved! Now with the invention of safety razors why not? I find it pretty erotic to have a girl shave my twins.Safety razors (with, I think forged blades) were first popularised in the 1870's. Gillette introduced their low cost safety razor with stamped steel blades in 1901/02. Is that what you mean by the 1900's?
Ikksman.
Mr Enternational
02-07-15, 13:34
I don't find anything at all attractive about a pussy that looks like a baby's pussy I prefer them to be natural. And why do guys like bald kitties? Same reason they like everything else and same reason they want to fuck for 3 hours straight. Because they saw it in a porno movie. And why did porn movies change from having people with full bushes in the 70's to the bald look of today? As LAT said before, hygiene issues. Why did chicks start wearing shoes in porn movies? Not because it's sexy, but because the dirty ass floors in the studios. It's funny when things start becoming the norm that people forget the original reasons for them being that way.
And why did porn movies change from having people with full bushes in the 70's to the bald look of today? As LAT said before, hygiene issues.Perceived hygiene issues.
There are more hygiene issues created by shaving as those alleviated by the practice. Having shaved skin continually tightly wrapped in unbreathable fabrics, isn't a good practice. Ingrown hairs, rashes irritation. Most western girls these days just assume they have to shave because its expected.
It was more Playboy magazine (etc) back in the day than it was porn. Magazines were much more accessible to the masses in the pre internet days than porn was. Where are the hygiene issues of a typical model? Go back and view the centerfolds in the 80's and early 90's and you can see the change. It was pre internet and pre porn explosion.
It is simply fashion and really has no utilitarian function. And today its simply personal preference and perceived societal norms. The men who prefer shaved will always have the upper hand with the BG's, if you get one with a Bush she can 'fix' it for you in 5 minutes with your razor. Those if us who prefer the look and feel of a soft natural pinay Bush especially with DATY, are stuck with the unsightly and sharp razor stubble of the girls last John.
Today most all men in TV and Movies wax their arms. Where is the reason behind that?
And why do guys like bald kitties? Same reason they like everything else and same reason they want to fuck for 3 hours straight. Because they saw it in a porno movie. Mr. E you nailed it! Porn. And most of the bald lovers are Americans.
Mr. E you nailed it! Porn. And most of the bald lovers are Americans.Yes I'm American and like to see what I'm shooting for since I'm sporting a big dick and those tiny holes can be hard to hit the first thrust. I'm not saying you have this same problem amjeck, I'm sure the girls find it cute how you bang around until you slip it in.
LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 16:19
And why do guys like bald kitties? Same reason they like everything else and same reason they want to fuck for 3 hours straight. Because they saw it in a porno movie. And why did porn movies change from having people with full bushes in the 70's to the bald look of today? As LAT said before, hygiene issues. Why did chicks start wearing shoes in porn movies? Not because it's sexy, but because the dirty ass floors in the studios. It's funny when things start becoming the norm that people forget the original reasons for them being that way.Haha so true but I have always been into natural girls. I spent 13 years in the Bush of Alaska (in more ways than one LOL) and sometimes when you woke up from fucking all night and the covers were off of your legs you had to wiggle your toes to tell which legs were yours HAHA those burly mountain girls have a lot of hair.
Anyway they all feel good with their puddy tangs, whether hairy or not, tightly wrapped around your turgid member. I'm sure glad I'm a horny old man.
L A T.
LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 17:16
Both places have their pluses and minuses. I think, for me, if I only consider the girls, the Philippines wins. I like their faces better, it's easier to get a good GFE, and they will let you get in 3 or maybe 4 pops. Of course YMMV. But Philippines is much poorer than Thailand, so I find hanging around here is a little depressing. For cost, it's a wash.
For some the fact that pinays don't ask for condoms is a plus. Well, that caught up to me pretty quick, and I had to go to a sketchy clinic for a shot in the ass. I wonder about the guys who say then never use a condom, and claim to have never caught anything. They probably have asymptomatic gonorrhea.It's not the guy who gives you the disease, there for if you use protection then it doesn't matter what the guy before you did. I don't know why guys don't get that, it's your responsibility to protect yourself, not the guy who cums before you. If you go au natural then yes you may get what the guy before you deposited but if you use protection, then its a moot point.
Happy pooning bare or not bare haha L A T.
LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 17:31
Yes I'm American and like to see what I'm shooting for since I'm sporting a big dick and those tiny holes can be hard to hit the first thrust. I'm not saying you have this same problem amjeck, I'm sure the girls find it cute how you bang around until you slip it in.Ah yes. Those tiny leettle holes. Well my cock <==8 isn't huge but it sure looks huge in their tiny leettle hands and mouths and because I have literally no belly I can see their tiny leettle holes quite easily.
L A T.
By the way I'm an american too.
Threadbare
02-07-15, 20:15
Planning a trip in May for a milestone birthday, so want to have lots of fun.
I love two girl BBBJs. To me as close to heaven as one can get. Do all girl friendly motels not have an issue with bringing more than one lady back for LT?
Two most of the time, and maybe even 3 if the girls "insist on it" and have never done that LT. LOL.
Want to stay at ABC, but they don't appear to have availability. What should be next on my list? Not because of the luxury as much as I like the pool, Jacuzzi in room and over the top decorating of ABC.
Wild Orchid?
Pacific Breeze?
Central Park. Confused by this one. Are there two very similar named?
Lewis seems too far from the fun.
Thanks much for your time!
I have always stayed at the Pacific Breeze, its good, reasonably priced and the staff are very friendly and helpful. No problem with 2 girls and I have taken 3. (New) Central Park, just built, is very nice, same group as Pacific Breeze and very well situated (they both are). Old one was pulled down a couple of years ago on same site. Lewis Grand is close enough to the action, very nice, and Wild Orchid too. If I wanted to change I would try Central Park. These are all more expensive than PB. Have fun.
Haha so true but I have always been into natural girls. I spent 13 years in the Bush of Alaska (in more ways than one LOL) and sometimes when you woke up from fucking all night and the covers were off of your legs you had to wiggle your toes to tell which legs were yours HAHA those burly mountain girls have a lot of hair.
Anyway they all feel good with their puddy tangs, whether hairy or not, tightly wrapped around your turgid member. I'm sure glad I'm a horny old man.
L A T.That certainly clears it up! I really didn't know wtf you were talking about. For what ever it is worth, I still like mine shaven or trimmed.
Safety razors (with, I think forged blades) were first popularised in the 1870's. Gillette introduced their low cost safety razor with stamped steel blades in 1901/02. Is that what you mean by the 1900's?
Ikksman.I meant 1900's as in we are Y2 K+15. Joking intended. Sorry about that.
Old fashioned razors:
o Safety or double edge blade.
o Cutthroat or straight razor (sharpened on a strop).My apology. Never heard of a cutthroat razor. Only known them as a straight razor. Now when I get a professional shave, which is rarely, they use a straight razor with a disposable single edge blade inserted. Due to HIV and other unsanitary reasons, I always insist on a new new blade if I haven't seen them change the old one out.
Pip Jaeger
02-08-15, 00:37
Many of the hotels will let you bring in 2 girls but some want extra pesos for the extra girl.Generally speaking the room's the same price for one or two persons (some times a minor upcharge for breakfast for 2nd person), so book for 2 persons to avoid the joiner fee.
Do all girl friendly motels not have an issue with bringing more than one lady back for LT? Two most of the time, and maybe even 3 if the girls "insist on it" and have never done that LT. LOL.I have a penchant for 3 somes and moresomes. I always book for 2 persons to start with and I've never had an issue bringing in multiple girls to any hotel in AC (ABC, LG, Queens, WO, etc) nor was I ever asked to pay a joiner fee for the 3rd, 4th, etc girl. The only thing was sometimes had to pay extra for a 3rd or 4th breakfast at hotels where breakfast was included, which is fair and fine by me.
As a side note: Don't be shy in explaining what you want or you may be disappointed with what you get. Clarify that you want a double BJ before paying the barfine. Many times a 3 some in AC is simply taking turns with the girls. Finding truly bi-sexual girls there is not hard, just ask the mamasan or another dancer to point out the "lesbian" girls.
Enjoy your trip.
Pip Jaeger
02-08-15, 00:50
I had 2 attempts to pick my pocket on a jeepney. SNIP I am thinking of putting a stack of cut up papers the size of bills in my pocket for some laughs.Try tearing a hole in your pocket and letting your one eyed trouser mouse dangle thru it; you'd give the would be pick-pocketer a real surprise that way! But make sure the pick-pocketer isn't a lady boy or you might be the one getting a surprise, LOL.
Try tearing a hole in your pocket and letting your one eyed trouser mouse dangle thru it; you'd give the would be pick-pocketer a real surprise that way! But make sure the pick-pocketer isn't a lady boy or you might be the one getting a surprise, LOL.A bit embarrass to say that he would have to reach pretty deep to grab my little mouse!
As promised, a report into my first trip to AC. To set the scene briefly, I was in Manila on business and didn't have much time, went to Fl168 (P900+1500 off peak), above average, went to LA Cafe, picked up two for P1500 each, below average. One final fling was a single overnight to AC.
Though I've been to the Philippines and Manila several times before, this was my first trip to the north and reports or otherwise, I'm more comfortable with the easy option, even if a little more pricey. So I chose the Swagman bus option (P600 each way), easy to get to in Manila, bus from there to their hotel in AC, room there, sorted. P600 for the bus (actually a minivan. Or two if busy, which it wasn't) which was scheduled for 3:30 pm but actually left at 3:15 pm, luckily I was early. We stopped enroute where there was a whole bunch of fast food restaurants, and arrived at the Swagman in AC at 4:55 pm. Front desk were not particularly friendly and my P1300 executive room which I'd booked did have a window. Which faced a wall about 2 feet away. Grim as anything, so I looked around the hotel and noticed the poolside rooms looked a bit better and asked about their availability. An upper floor room was indeed available for P2000 which I took, obviously having to pay the differential. Still a bit grim, even by Filipino standards (and I've been to non-tourist hotels off the beaten track in the provinces), but it'd do for one night. Had a quick swim in their equally grim pool. Well, ok, it was probably chemically clean but could have done with a bit of deforestation.
By this time it was getting on for 7 pm so headed to Fields, via tricycle (there were a couple a short walk away from the Swagman. Seemed to be a permanent fixture). Walked up and down looking for something edible first, and settled on a hotel bar which served up a quite decent Thai green curry. I noticed a lot of girls heading to bars so I suppose 7 pm is about when it all gets started properly.
I apologise for not remembering the names of the first two bars. All I can say is that both were on the south side of the street, closer to the McDonalds end. My first was an upstairs bar (head up, turn right, split level seating with centre stage). Was initially harassed as can be expected but did get 20 minutes to myself watching the bored dancers on stage initially. Some were good to look at in my eyes, others average. Eventually a pair turned up next to me, rubbing their crotches over me, asking the usual questions. I was polite but told them I wasn't really interested at that stage. They persisted nevertheless but to their credit didn't complain or show surprise when I finished my drink, paid up, and left. Drink P125 for juice.
Next was a bar closer to McDonalds. As you entered, the stage was on the right and then a load of booths down the left wall. Another juice (didn't want to get drunk), P90. Some dancers on stage were okay but there were others that really needed to be dressed. People like all shapes and sizes, sure, but beer bellies on girls just doesn't do it for me (I don't like skinny either. Just middle, average). After the second rotation two people in particular caught my eye, and not for a good reason. If I had seen them on the street I would have assumed they were, shall we say, not born female! Ye gawds they were ugly. Didn't even bother finishing my drink and got up and left. Come to think of it, I don't think any of the girls even tried to talk to me in that bar, though they did look / wink as they were passing.
So this time I thought I'd try a bar that I'd read about here and elsewhere. I passed one which sounded vaguely familiar but kept walking. And found Dollhouse. Walked inside and. Mmmm! It turned out this would be tonight's last port of call. If ever there was a place with wall to wall pussy. And pretty girls at that. This was it. I'd go home a happy man even if nothing came of it. And it's not as if they even do anything raunchy per se here. Bikinis and that's yer lot (apparently. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, got sat down on the left of the stage downstairs, initially next to a gaggle of waitresses. Didn't bother me, I was quite happy to watch for the moment. But after a while a couple of middle eastern men sat down nearby and of course a load of bar girls surrounded them, including two between me and the nearest bloke. Initially the one next to me was talking with the group but occasionally she turned around to me and we exchanged a bit of chit chat. It wasn't the usual "what's your name, where do you come from" but just random comments about other people really. But as I got talking I realised she was actually rather pretty so I thought why not and started concentrating on her. And her me. She was shy but friendly. One of the waitresses noticed we were obviously chatting and asked if I would buy the bar girl a drink. Why not. She ordered some fruit thing with cream on the top. Pretty disgusting, non-alcoholic, but she kept trying to get me to eat the cream (which I hate but obliged. As you do with a nice girl by your side). Ordered a vodka and orange for me, disgusting, no idea what vodka it was but certainly not Smirnoff; she ordered the fruit SM which she kept sharing.
By this time the middle eastern men had buggered off with a girl each and it was just me, the girl next to me, and the one next to her left. So the one on the far left basically tried to set us up, saying how sweet and nice she was, and how she'd look after me, blah blah. Usual story but I later realised there was more to it than that (see later! By this time I was semi-decently fondling the girl next to me and. Oops, sorry, next girl over, reached too far. Again and again LOL. Waitress got my attention and asked if I wanted to take the girl out. Yes. She's P3000. What?! P3000. Holy sheeeeet. That was NOT what I was expecting! I asked if she could lower the price and she looked at our bar tab and reduced that by 10% but was adamant about the girl's price. Fuckitt. I've come this far, it's now past 11 pm, I'm not a late night person, it's too late to start again, and this would be my final fling in the Philippines, so I handed over P3700 with an inward gulp. At that point I thought. A bit late. To check she would stay the whole night. Nope. Damn. P3000 and she's not even going to do LT! Well, again, I'm too far in this now. Call it the little head thinking if you like but I wanted her badly. I could ask again later.
So we get a tricycle back to the hotel (which she's never heard of. Only been to two she says) and go into the room. She's shy and wants to shower alone but I ask nicely if we can do it together and she agrees. I'd popped a V a little earlier so I was hard as a rock by the time I'd seen her naked and about to get in the shower with me. I was facing away from her trying to get the shower warm, so when she eventually sees my cock she yelps and takes a step back! Now, I don't think I'm big, but she said she'd never seen a European / American cock before, just Asian. A bit skeptical but whatever, ego boost, hey, it works for me!
After the shower and we're dry, I'm in bed and she's standing by the bed and suddenly asks "what do I do now? I'm a little surprised at this but am beginning to sense a pattern. Heck, it's usually the women in control when it's paid-for sex, at least for me, so if I'm in control then great. I get her down beside me and start touching her body. Her breasts are really firm and perfectly formed. In fact her skin is virtually blemish free: if there were any moles, I didn't see them. Quite light skinned too. Lovely nipples, just the right size nipple vs aureole. She got on top and started rubbing her crotch on me rather nicely. And damn me if she wasn't trying to mount me there and then, condom or not. But she had big lips and that cock wasn't going anywhere without lubrication against those protruding lips, and I'm not one for going bareback on a bargirl.
I wanted to do 69; she's not happy doing so. I realised after the event there was no BJ but I'm not actually a big fan anyway so I didn't push for it, nor was I bothered I didn't get one. But what I DO like is DATY. However, she wanted the lights off for that which she did, but there was still enough light to see she had trimmed pubic hair above the slit but bare below. Lovely suckable lips and, fake or not, she started saying how good it was and pushing her crotch against my head while pulling my head down into her crotch. But then her clit was hard. I find that bargirls (in my limited experience!) don't often have hard clits, just mechanical for them I guess so to find hers hard did make me think that maybe she really was enjoying it.
The next surprise was her saying "I think I want you to fuck me now"! I wasn't finished down there so lapped away for a bit more before coming up for air. She started to try to put the condom on but she honestly could not work it out! There's little more "softening" than a girl trying and failing to put a condom on so in the end I did it myself. We started in the missionary position which is not my favourite but is kind of expected I guess. But she was complaining a bit. Not in a bad way. That it was too big, so I offered to let her go on top so she could control the entry, which she readily agreed to. And she went at it like hammer and tongs, really rubbing her crotch against me. Pleasantly tight.
She got tired. I'm not fast at cumming. So I suggested doggy style which she didn't want, so went to sideways (? - must be a name for it. Her on her side, one leg up, me on top), then back to missionary where I eventually came. She was ready to go to the bathroom but readily agreed to wait a few minutes with me inside her. Pulled out, fair bit of the white stuff which again she seemed a bit surprised at. Cleaned up.
Partly dressed, she joins me on the bed and we start watching TV. I had the channel on Nat Geo which I'd been watching earlier. Offered to change channels but she said she prefers documentaries. Fair enough! We start talking again and get on to the subject of the bar and customers. She said she was 21 and had only lost her virginity a year ago, to a Japanese customer for P50,000. And before me her previous customer was 3 months prior. To be honest I was somewhat skeptical of this but then thought back through the night. Shy, didn't come on to me on the bar like most girls would, didn't know what to do, didn't know how to use a condom, etc. All of this could have been an act but why would you be like that after the event and after money had changed hands? She continued: she only went with customers that she trusted, and lived off lady drinks in the meantime. She said she felt comfortable with me which was nice. And she said that P50,000 went to pay for her parents' house in Tacloban which was destroyed in the typhoon last year. At this point, though she was in front of me and to the side, sort of laying on my chest, I could see she had tears in her eyes. She was in this "career" simply to support her family and not because she enjoyed it. I asked her about boyfriends: just one, and he left her when he found out she worked in a bar. I could not see any reason to disbelieve anything she was saying. I know some of you will think you've seen all this before as a pretense but I don't suffer fools gladly, and could not think why she would feel the need to lie. She was relaxed and stroking my hairy arms and legs and pulling at my earlobe (not quite sure why but I do notice Asian earlobes seem to be a bit thinner than mine) - though covered me back up when I adjusted my balls!
She stayed for about an hour but really would not stay the night, despite my gentle begging. However, it was her day off the next day and she said she'd come back for free if I wanted. But damn I had to be back in Manila so I turned her down. How fucking stupid am I. I'm still kicking myself a week later. A few more hours would not have hurt, just a morning and maybe lunch. Not even sex necessarily. But something was happening with my brain and it was not a good idea to go there. Love. I walked her out to a tricycle, handed her a tip which she didn't look at in my presence, and off she went. The thing with all this was that she never asked for money, didn't even mention it apart from that P50,000, didn't ask for email / phone, anything. I didn't ask either as I saw no point in prolonging the inevitable. Best to just cut ties, be thankful for a very memorable night, and end the chapter. But you know by now what this was: love for a bar girl, who was 21 while I was in my late 30's and married, FFS. It simply could not happen! As I write this, one week later, from my home, I am still sorry and full of puppy love. It's stupid: it was never to be, yet I really, really, liked her for those 4 short hours I was with her, and I hate myself for it! This is the kind of situation where you realise that not all bar girls are in it for fun: some are doing it simply to make money and don't necessarily enjoy it. And I felt sorry for her, I really did. The next day I thought to myself that I should have given her a bigger tip: it wouldn't have hurt me, yet I know it drives expectations higher for future customers (per this forum) - damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Anyway, after a few mediocre sessions over the previous week and years, I was about ready to call it quits with my late-starting and sparse mongering life. I've never really been scammed, never had a really bad time (though mixed, great to "just ok" quite lucky really. I'd had girls in Brazil, Argentina, Czech Republic, Thailand, and the Philippines. This girl both wanted me to both stop and to crave more simultaneously. I want to see her again if I ever went to AC but the chances of finding her are slim. And it is best kept that way.
I must admit I've read reports on here and elsewhere about mongerers falling in love, sending money (along with 100 other foreigners per girl), and wondering WTF. Well, now I know why! FUCK.
Yours, a bit messed up, Simmer. Sorry for the long and slightly emotional post; I hope it was readable and insightful!
As promised, a report into my first trip to AC. To set the scene briefly, I was in Manila on business and didn't have much time, went to Fl168 (P900+1500 off peak), above average, went to LA Cafe, picked up two for P1500 each, below average. One final fling was a single overnight to AC.
Though I've been to the Philippines and Manila several times before, this was my first trip to the north and reports or otherwise, I'm more comfortable with the easy option, even if a little more pricey. So I chose the Swagman bus option (P600 each way), easy to get to in Manila, bus from there to their hotel in AC, room there, sorted. P600 for the bus (actually a minivan. Or two if busy, which it wasn't) which was scheduled for 3:30 pm but actually left at 3:15 pm, luckily I was early. We stopped enroute where there was a whole bunch of fast food restaurants, and arrived at the Swagman in AC at 4:55 pm. Front desk were not particularly friendly and my P1300 executive room which I'd booked did have a window. Which faced a wall about 2 feet away. Grim as anything, so I looked around the hotel and noticed the poolside rooms looked a bit better and asked about their availability. An upper floor room was indeed available for P2000 which I took, obviously having to pay the differential. Still a bit grim, even by Filipino standards (and I've been to non-tourist hotels off the beaten track in the provinces), but it'd do for one night. Had a quick swim in their equally grim pool. Well, ok, it was probably chemically clean but could have done with a bit of deforestation.
By this time it was getting on for 7 pm so headed to Fields, via tricycle (there were a couple a short walk away from the Swagman. Seemed to be a permanent fixture). Walked up and down looking for something edible first, and settled on a hotel bar which served up a quite decent Thai green curry. I noticed a lot of girls heading to bars so I suppose 7 pm is about when it all gets started properly.
I apologise for not remembering the names of the first two bars. All I can say is that both were on the south side of the street, closer to the McDonalds end. My first was an upstairs bar (head up, turn right, split level seating with centre stage). Was initially harassed as can be expected but did get 20 minutes to myself watching the bored dancers on stage initially. Some were good to look at in my eyes, others average. Eventually a pair turned up next to me, rubbing their crotches over me, asking the usual questions. I was polite but told them I wasn't really interested at that stage. They persisted nevertheless but to their credit didn't complain or show surprise when I finished my drink, paid up, and left. Drink P125 for juice.
Next was a bar closer to McDonalds. As you entered, the stage was on the right and then a load of booths down the left wall. Another juice (didn't want to get drunk), P90. Some dancers on stage were okay but there were others that really needed to be dressed. People like all shapes and sizes, sure, but beer bellies on girls just doesn't do it for me (I don't like skinny either. Just middle, average). After the second rotation two people in particular caught my eye, and not for a good reason. If I had seen them on the street I would have assumed they were, shall we say, not born female! Ye gawds they were ugly. Didn't even bother finishing my drink and got up and left. Come to think of it, I don't think any of the girls even tried to talk to me in that bar, though they did look / wink as they were passing.
So this time I thought I'd try a bar that I'd read about here and elsewhere. I passed one which sounded vaguely familiar but kept walking. And found Dollhouse. Walked inside and. Mmmm! It turned out this would be tonight's last port of call. If ever there was a place with wall to wall pussy. And pretty girls at that. This was it. I'd go home a happy man even if nothing came of it. And it's not as if they even do anything raunchy per se here. Bikinis and that's yer lot (apparently. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, got sat down on the left of the stage downstairs, initially next to a gaggle of waitresses. Didn't bother me, I was quite happy to watch for the moment. But after a while a couple of middle eastern men sat down nearby and of course a load of bar girls surrounded them, including two between me and the nearest bloke. Initially the one next to me was talking with the group but occasionally she turned around to me and we exchanged a bit of chit chat. It wasn't the usual "what's your name, where do you come from" but just random comments about other people really. But as I got talking I realised she was actually rather pretty so I thought why not and started concentrating on her. And her me. She was shy but friendly. One of the waitresses noticed we were obviously chatting and asked if I would buy the bar girl a drink. Why not. She ordered some fruit thing with cream on the top. Pretty disgusting, non-alcoholic, but she kept trying to get me to eat the cream (which I hate but obliged. As you do with a nice girl by your side). Ordered a vodka and orange for me, disgusting, no idea what vodka it was but certainly not Smirnoff; she ordered the fruit SM which she kept sharing.
By this time the middle eastern men had buggered off with a girl each and it was just me, the girl next to me, and the one next to her left. So the one on the far left basically tried to set us up, saying how sweet and nice she was, and how she'd look after me, blah blah. Usual story but I later realised there was more to it than that (see later! By this time I was semi-decently fondling the girl next to me and. Oops, sorry, next girl over, reached too far. Again and again LOL. Waitress got my attention and asked if I wanted to take the girl out. Yes. She's P3000. What?! P3000. Holy sheeeeet. That was NOT what I was expecting! I asked if she could lower the price and she looked at our bar tab and reduced that by 10% but was adamant about the girl's price. Fuckitt. I've come this far, it's now past 11 pm, I'm not a late night person, it's too late to start again, and this would be my final fling in the Philippines, so I handed over P3700 with an inward gulp. At that point I thought. A bit late. To check she would stay the whole night. Nope. Damn. P3000 and she's not even going to do LT! Well, again, I'm too far in this now. Call it the little head thinking if you like but I wanted her badly. I could ask again later.
So we get a tricycle back to the hotel (which she's never heard of. Only been to two she says) and go into the room. She's shy and wants to shower alone but I ask nicely if we can do it together and she agrees. I'd popped a V a little earlier so I was hard as a rock by the time I'd seen her naked and about to get in the shower with me. I was facing away from her trying to get the shower warm, so when she eventually sees my cock she yelps and takes a step back! Now, I don't think I'm big, but she said she'd never seen a European / American cock before, just Asian. A bit skeptical but whatever, ego boost, hey, it works for me!
After the shower and we're dry, I'm in bed and she's standing by the bed and suddenly asks "what do I do now? I'm a little surprised at this but am beginning to sense a pattern. Heck, it's usually the women in control when it's paid-for sex, at least for me, so if I'm in control then great. I get her down beside me and start touching her body. Her breasts are really firm and perfectly formed. In fact her skin is virtually blemish free: if there were any moles, I didn't see them. Quite light skinned too. Lovely nipples, just the right size nipple vs aureole. She got on top and started rubbing her crotch on me rather nicely. And damn me if she wasn't trying to mount me there and then, condom or not. But she had big lips and that cock wasn't going anywhere without lubrication against those protruding lips, and I'm not one for going bareback on a bargirl.
I wanted to do 69; she's not happy doing so. I realised after the event there was no BJ but I'm not actually a big fan anyway so I didn't push for it, nor was I bothered I didn't get one. But what I DO like is DATY. However, she wanted the lights off for that which she did, but there was still enough light to see she had trimmed pubic hair above the slit but bare below. Lovely suckable lips and, fake or not, she started saying how good it was and pushing her crotch against my head while pulling my head down into her crotch. But then her clit was hard. I find that bargirls (in my limited experience!) don't often have hard clits, just mechanical for them I guess so to find hers hard did make me think that maybe she really was enjoying it.
The next surprise was her saying "I think I want you to fuck me now"! I wasn't finished down there so lapped away for a bit more before coming up for air. She started to try to put the condom on but she honestly could not work it out! There's little more "softening" than a girl trying and failing to put a condom on so in the end I did it myself. We started in the missionary position which is not my favourite but is kind of expected I guess. But she was complaining a bit. Not in a bad way. That it was too big, so I offered to let her go on top so she could control the entry, which she readily agreed to. And she went at it like hammer and tongs, really rubbing her crotch against me. Pleasantly tight.
She got tired. I'm not fast at cumming. So I suggested doggy style which she didn't want, so went to sideways (? - must be a name for it. Her on her side, one leg up, me on top), then back to missionary where I eventually came. She was ready to go to the bathroom but readily agreed to wait a few minutes with me inside her. Pulled out, fair bit of the white stuff which again she seemed a bit surprised at. Cleaned up.
Partly dressed, she joins me on the bed and we start watching TV. I had the channel on Nat Geo which I'd been watching earlier. Offered to change channels but she said she prefers documentaries. Fair enough! We start talking again and get on to the subject of the bar and customers. She said she was 21 and had only lost her virginity a year ago, to a Japanese customer for P50,000. And before me her previous customer was 3 months prior. To be honest I was somewhat skeptical of this but then thought back through the night. Shy, didn't come on to me on the bar like most girls would, didn't know what to do, didn't know how to use a condom, etc. All of this could have been an act but why would you be like that after the event and after money had changed hands? She continued: she only went with customers that she trusted, and lived off lady drinks in the meantime. She said she felt comfortable with me which was nice. And she said that P50,000 went to pay for her parents' house in Tacloban which was destroyed in the typhoon last year. At this point, though she was in front of me and to the side, sort of laying on my chest, I could see she had tears in her eyes. She was in this "career" simply to support her family and not because she enjoyed it. I asked her about boyfriends: just one, and he left her when he found out she worked in a bar. I could not see any reason to disbelieve anything she was saying. I know some of you will think you've seen all this before as a pretense but I don't suffer fools gladly, and could not think why she would feel the need to lie. She was relaxed and stroking my hairy arms and legs and pulling at my earlobe (not quite sure why but I do notice Asian earlobes seem to be a bit thinner than mine) - though covered me back up when I adjusted my balls!
She stayed for about an hour but really would not stay the night, despite my gentle begging. However, it was her day off the next day and she said she'd come back for free if I wanted. But damn I had to be back in Manila so I turned her down. How fucking stupid am I. I'm still kicking myself a week later. A few more hours would not have hurt, just a morning and maybe lunch. Not even sex necessarily. But something was happening with my brain and it was not a good idea to go there. Love. I walked her out to a tricycle, handed her a tip which she didn't look at in my presence, and off she went. The thing with all this was that she never asked for money, didn't even mention it apart from that P50,000, didn't ask for email / phone, anything. I didn't ask either as I saw no point in prolonging the inevitable. Best to just cut ties, be thankful for a very memorable night, and end the chapter. But you know by now what this was: love for a bar girl, who was 21 while I was in my late 30's and married, FFS. It simply could not happen! As I write this, one week later, from my home, I am still sorry and full of puppy love. It's stupid: it was never to be, yet I really, really, liked her for those 4 short hours I was with her, and I hate myself for it! This is the kind of situation where you realise that not all bar girls are in it for fun: some are doing it simply to make money and don't necessarily enjoy it. And I felt sorry for her, I really did. The next day I thought to myself that I should have given her a bigger tip: it wouldn't have hurt me, yet I know it drives expectations higher for future customers (per this forum) - damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Anyway, after a few mediocre sessions over the previous week and years, I was about ready to call it quits with my late-starting and sparse mongering life. I've never really been scammed, never had a really bad time (though mixed, great to "just ok" quite lucky really. I'd had girls in Brazil, Argentina, Czech Republic, Thailand, and the Philippines. This girl both wanted me to both stop and to crave more simultaneously. I want to see her again if I ever went to AC but the chances of finding her are slim. And it is best kept that way.
I must admit I've read reports on here and elsewhere about mongerers falling in love, sending money (along with 100 other foreigners per girl), and wondering WTF. Well, now I know why! FUCK.
Yours, a bit messed up, Simmer. Sorry for the long and slightly emotional post; I hope it was readable and insightful!Thanks for the great honest report. It is so hard to comprehend what most of these girls do and go through for their family. I don't let what people here might think or say influence my tipping.
LuvAsianTang
02-09-15, 16:32
Thanks for the great honest report. It is so hard to comprehend what most of these girls do and go through for their family. I don't let what people here might think or say influence my tipping.I happen to agree with you Dg8787, there are some really sweet girls in the philippines, and some of them are coerced into the scene by their poor families needs. When they open up to you both verbally and emotionally, they can whisk your heart away in an instant. These are the girls I will tip very well and not bat an eyelash. They fulfill your needs on more then the base level that most of the bar girls offer, so in my eyes deserve the premium tip.
There are many here on this site who will debate the wisdom in this, but they don't get it anyway, it's all about being a kind man.
Loves the sweet ones, L A T.
IslandMan27
02-11-15, 07:30
As promised, a report into my first trip to AC. To set the scene briefly, I was in Manila on business and didn't have much time, went to Fl168 (P900+1500 off peak), above average, went to LA Cafe, picked up two for P1500 each, below average. One final fling was a single overnight to AC...
I must admit I've read reports on here and elsewhere about mongerers falling in love, sending money (along with 100 other foreigners per girl), and wondering WTF. Well, now I know why! FUCK.
Yours, a bit messed up, Simmer. Sorry for the long and slightly emotional post; I hope it was readable and insightful!Simmer,
Read your post and totally empathized. Good and honest experience for a first time in AC.
Honestly, been there only once, and when I did I was just dumbstruck by a bargirl on my 2nd or 3rd night (from Bodyshop) who provided me with my first and arguably best GFE anywhere. I spent 5 days with her in AC. A waste perhaps in the judgement of other experienced mongers, but the lasting impression afterwards was worth it. It made the best impression on me of how sweet and lovely these ladies can be. And I have to say, it certainly leaves a mark.
Thanks for sharing that post.
Honestly, been there only once, and when I did I was just dumbstruck by a bargirl on my 2nd or 3rd night (from Bodyshop) who provided me with my first and arguably best GFE anywhere. I spent 5 days with her in AC. A waste perhaps in the judgement of other experienced mongers, but the lasting impression afterwards was worth it. It made the best impression on me of how sweet and lovely these ladies can be. And I have to say, it certainly leaves a mark.Thanks. I'm the same as you. I'd much rather one great girl than a few average girls. While I don't have many notches on the bedpost, and I do want to try more girls, I'd still much rather quality over quantity any day. I was in my 20's when I lost my virginity, mostly because I'm quite shy, 27 when I had my first bargirl, and I really wish I'd started earlier with both.
Nevertheless I do enjoy reading the reports on here and seeing the pictures. I can't help but feel a little jealousy!
If giving a newbie a suggestion to a bar to bust his Angles cherry, what bar would you suggest for the best experience? Has and one heard of the Deceit Bar? Just asking, will see a lot of bars. 2 weeks until touchdown, can't wait.
Radical Guy
02-11-15, 22:07
If giving a newbie a suggestion to a bar to bust his Angles cherry, what bar would you suggest for the best experience? Has and one heard of the Deceit Bar? Just asking, will see a lot of bars. 2 weeks until touchdown, can't wait.Never heard of it. There are a zillion bars to choose from, and you'll get a different answer from anyone you ask. I was in AC last week, and my first bar was the Candy Bar (a perimeter bar), which was awesome. Lady and local drinks are reasonably priced, and no pressure. I barfined a 21-year-old stunner from there for 1,600 pesos, who really shook my world. However, if you are into flashy, loud music and a better selection, try one of the bars on the Fields walking street.
RG.
Never heard of it. There are a zillion bars to choose from, and you'll get a different answer from anyone you ask. I was in AC last week, and my first bar was the Candy Bar (a perimeter bar), which was awesome. Lady and local drinks are reasonably priced, and no pressure. I barfined a 21-year-old stunner from there for 1,600 pesos, who really shook my world. However, if you are into flashy, loud music and a better selection, try one of the bars on the Fields walking street.
RG.Ok, Thanks. Good answer. I'll be staying in the perimeter area. Just wanted an opinion. Everyone has one.
Fast Eddie 48
02-12-15, 01:30
Thanks. I'm the same as you. I'd much rather one great girl than a few average girls. While I don't have many notches on the bedpost, and I do want to try more girls, I'd still much rather quality over quantity any day. I was in my 20's when I lost my virginity, mostly because I'm quite shy, 27 when I had my first bargirl, and I really wish I'd started earlier with both.
Nevertheless I do enjoy reading the reports on here and seeing the pictures. I can't help but feel a little jealousy!To simmer.
I think you did good for first timer did the right thing to take the Swagman bus to ac but you don't need to stay at that hotel, they can take you to other hotel at field like the Orchid, I been to AC many time stay 4 days average like to take my time hunting for girl I go to 5-8 bars before I take a girl so one night you just get a feel of AC is all about.
Fast eddie 48.
Radical Guy
02-13-15, 06:28
I arrived at NAIA Terminal 3 at 10:00 AM. I used Uber to get a ride to the 5 Star bus terminal in Pasay (Uber ride was 77 pesos!) Then, I took the aircon 5 Star bus to Dau bus terminal, which cost 150 pesos. I was quite impressed with this service. My luggage was stowed for me under the bus (I kept all my valuables in my backpack next to me). The bus made just two quick stops, then took the fast expressway directly to Dau. It took two hours to reach my destination, even with heavy traffic. The bus had big comfortable seats with plenty of leg room (I am a tall guy), and it even had wifi on board, so I could surf the net on my iPad the entire way.
Once I got to Dau terminal, I hired two trike drivers for 120 pesos each (one for me, one for my luggage) to take me to the Penthouse hotel in AC. All in all, I was quite pleased with this transportation method, which was a total cost of 467 pesos (Uber + bus + trikes) from the NAIA airport to my AC hotel. I was happy that I canceled the 2800 peso private car I had previously arranged, which would not have had wifi, and probably less leg room.
On my return trip to Manila, I opted to take the 600-peso Fly the Bus deal. BIG MISTAKE! A crowded small van picked me up at my hotel, and I assumed that it was simply a shuttle to the real bus. WRONG! The little van had me crunched in the back seat with my knees almost to my chest. We first stopped at the AC branch of Swagman Travel, and then was informed that we would travel in that terribly uncomfortable van the entire way to Manila, NO BUS! By the time we arrived in Manila (at the Swagman Hotel in Ermita), my ass was numb and my legs were in pain. Never again will I take that Swagman "Fly the Bus" swindle! Next time, for my return, I'll simply take a couple of trikes to Dau terminal (or the hotel shuttle for 400 pesos), and catch another big comfy aircon bus to Pasay.
RG.
On my return trip to Manila, I opted to take the 600-peso Fly the Bus deal. BIG MISTAKE! A crowded small van picked me up at my hotel, and I assumed that it was simply a shuttle to the real bus. WRONG! The little van had me crunched in the back seat with my knees almost to my chest. We first stopped at the AC branch of Swagman Travel, and then was informed that we would travel in that terribly uncomfortable van the entire way to Manila, NO BUS! By the time we arrived in Manila (at the Swagman Hotel in Ermita), my ass was numb and my legs were in pain. Never again will I take that Swagman "Fly the Bus" swindle! Next time, for my return, I'll simply take a couple of trikes to Dau terminal (or the hotel shuttle for 400 pesos), and catch another big comfy aircon bus to Pasay.
RG.I took the 'Fly the Bus' as well today, from Manila to AC, and it was a small van indeed. So they can better call it 'Fly the Van' or even better 'The flying Van' considering the driving style of most Pinoy chauffeurs.
I'm quite tall as well (6 feet) but for me it wasn't terribly uncomfortable, not for the 2 hours it took anyway. So I guess you are at least 6. 3 feet?
By the way folks, at the start of the trip they ask you at what hotel they can drop you off. If you haven't booked a hotel in advance then don't say 'Swagman' because in AC that's the Swagman Resort Hotel and that is more than a mile away from Fields Av. So better ask them to drop you off at Fields (unless you're staying at Swagman Resort of course).
I was sitting next to a guy who was on his maiden trip to AC and he was dropped off at Swagman Resort. I thought it would be Swagman Travel near Margarita Station. It wasn't until we drove away again that I saw we were somewhere else. I hope the guy was aware of that.
Radical Guy
02-13-15, 15:25
I took the 'Fly the Bus' as well today, from Manila to AC, and it was a small van indeed. So they can better call it 'Fly the Van' or even better 'The flying Van' considering the driving style of most Pinoy chauffeurs.
I'm quite tall as well (6 feet) but for me it wasn't terribly uncomfortable, not for the 2 hours it took anyway. So I guess you are at least 6. 3 feet?I think I had the worst seat in the van, positioned just behind the driver. I was the last person they picked up, so I guess I was the unluckiest one.
ThatGuy865
02-13-15, 19:34
Raids back on. Nasty Duck on Perimeter was raided and girls taken.
Screaming Beaver
02-14-15, 00:05
Once I got to Dau terminal, I hired two trike drivers for 120 pesos each (one for me, one for my luggage) to take me to the Penthouse hotel in AC.You were lucky the trike driver who had your luggage didn't take a wrong turn and skedaddle with your stuff.
Capt Munch
02-14-15, 01:54
Raids back on. Nasty Duck on Perimeter was raided and girls taken.One of the local guys that I know told me the other day that there was set to be a whole new set of raids starting.
The Asian Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) wrapped up this week and there were huge amounts of policemen returned to their regular assignments.
During the conference, they reportedly brought in or assigned something around 400 police for the conference. The city "bill" for that must be quite large, hence the need for "revenue generation. ".
There were also reports that the "city officials" were busy asking for additional funds from the bar owners to cover the costs of rounding up and "re-locating" the street urchins / children.
Someone must have done a decent job on this account as their numbers were significantly reduced for about a week and a half.
BUT. . . . now that the conference is over. . . . . Things do appear to be returning to "normal" pretty quickly around here. Traffic that was being re-routed and the more obvious.
Enforcement of the "no helmets" / current registrations laws seemed to keep some of the traffic off the road.
With little or NO enforcement (as is the usual way here in the Philippines) any benefits derived from the last 2 weeks are finished.
So expect more raids. . . . somebody has to "pay" for all the expenses while the mayor " put on a good show for the conference attendees ".
For a large part, also expect that it will be business as usual and that there will be plenty of bars open.
Be careful.
Munch.
On my return trip to Manila, I opted to take the 600-peso Fly the Bus deal. BIG MISTAKE! A crowded small van picked me up at my hotel, and I assumed that it was simply a shuttle to the real bus. WRONG! The little van had me crunched in the back seat with my knees almost to my chest. .Sorry to hear you had such a bad time especially since I was recommending it here. Swagman operates the Manila AC round trip and the AC Subic RT. I think they have 2 or 3 vans and 1 big bus. Its not like they own a fleet. Pinoy vehicle maintenance is legendarily poor so likely the bus was down. I have taken the vans a few times over the years. Once from Subic to AC on short notice with only 1 other guy. I have taken the Ermita to AC where they used the Van but it was never packed. Thats very surprising to hear the driver drove crazy. The typical white van on the provinces is operated by a reckless pinoy Schumacher want to-be whose racing some imaginary foe. But the Swagman drivers were always very cautious and professional.
Swagman was for years owned and operated by Aussie (s) but in recent years 'the Chinese' took over and the Hotel has deteriorated significantly. I am convinced I caught Scabies there a few years ago and never stayed there again. But the fly the bus still seemed to be the same. Could be going down too. Nothing in the Phils remains a constant. I will be there in April and will likely end up on the Bus so I will report back.
I'm 5'10 about 175 so the vans while never roomy are manageable. It must suck sometimes in the Phils to be so tall at times. Especially AC, every province has its own style of Trike sidecar but the smallest is version by far is AC where the most oversized foreigners are-- I can barely fit and I'm not big. I have sat in the sidesaddle back of the driver spot in AC proper with multiple girls inside but I wouldn't try it on crowded fields. (Note to self- don't do that again), If I were some AC entrepreneur I would create a small fleet of some roomier design from the other provinces. Of course I would likely end up dead in a ditch for my innovation, if successful, so I would never try it in reality.
I'm not really a fan of today's music but I kinda like the song with this catchy chorus: 'Yeah, my mama she told me don't worry about your size. She says, "Boys like a little more booty to hold at night. " (Meghan Trainor, All About That Bass).
I too do like a little more booty every now and then but what I saw last night in the first bar I visited (Angelwitch) was really too much booty. Something like 70% of the girls had, well let me put it this way: Jollibee butts. And a lot of them were ugly too. So that wasn't a good start and I left the place after 10 minutes.
Walked up and down Fields a couple of times. Lots of ladyboys and only a few doable or cute WGs. Got some cards from reasonably good looking or even cute massage girls. Unfortunately the youngest / cutest ones ignored me and didn't gave me their cards, LOL. Guess they can afford to be picky.
Ran into an old acquaintance who I 'did' one time about a year ago. Nice and sweet 24 yo, only average looking but somehow she looked more attractive than a year ago. She was accompanied by her 19 yo sister and a cousin (early 20's I think). Both attractive girls so I might give them a try in the near future.
Went to Q-bar. Line up was slightly better and less 'heavy' than in Angelwitch but nothing to write home about. Sat down with a waitress (also kinda chubby) who wanted a BF, sorry EWR (Early Work Release) but I passed.
Decided to try one of the massage girls. Picked a 26 yo who seemed nice and she certainly was but she didn't want to do any extra's other than a dick massage and a HJ. However when I declined she asked me how much I would pay for boom boom. I offered her 1000 and she said no. It was a very determined no and I didn't want to pay more because she just wasn't worth it. So I gave her 500 (400 for the massage + 100 tip) and she was happy with it.
Went to High Society around 11.30 PM, for the first time. Wanted to give it a try. Lots of pretty and even stunning girls but dancing isn't my thing and I just cannot stand the noise very long so after about half an hour I headed for the exit. Where I bumped into the old acquaintance again. She doesn't like it very much to be there either so she was glad I took her out of there for a quickie in my room. We had a nice session so after all it wasn't such a bad night.
TRs, kudos and pics are all I've got these days.
My trip started in AC on 2/3 and moved to Subic on 2/8, Subic for 4 days, back to AC for 3 days, my 3rd day is today. Tomorrow I go to Dau for a bus ride to Pasay and then head to St Giles for 3 days, looking forward to Makati pussy.
My thoughts on the current AC are that it's better than last May (my last time here) in terms of quality. I mainly barhop and barfine, it's the way I do it, probably not the best way in regards to value but it is the easy path to decent lookers. I thought the Dollhouse had the best lookers (this time) but the lookers are scattered about and so barhopping can be productive. At times I enjoyed Pharaohs, Crystal Palace, Club Asia, Nemesis. On the smaller clubs I liked Tribal, Hollywood, Roadies, I took a nice one from Shipwrecked (2000 p). I will soon leave fairly content w / my action in AC. Some beauties are here and some will play games, what else is new?
Subic was a nice change, I stayed at Sheavens and the view from there is quite nice. I would suggest not looking too close (at Subic Bay) or taking a boat ride to more pristine areas of Subic because they don't exist. The boat owner will love you for touring the trashy, rocky islands of Subic and that's all you'll get out of it, his affection.
I rented a scooter for a couple of days and took a ride up to Pundaquit as further and there are things to do up there but a scooter ride is a bit grueling. I like having a scooter, you can learn a lot more about where you're visiting w / this quick form transportation.
The bars and clubs are worth a visit w / some nice items but not many of them, most barfines are 1500p. I noticed lots of signs on the bars looking for mamas and ladies. I did enjoy a CUTE big breasted spinner from the Cat Walk Club (2000p). I did not see her counterpart in AC, at least not a cute one. Subic has it's own supply of ladies and some are quite nice and are not spoiled, most will spend the entire night w / you.
Now I already mentioned I'm back in AC and going to enjoy my last night here. An hour ago I had a couple of chunky door girls over for a dick sucking party and they did alright. Not as good as I enjoyed from 2 FLs last May in Makati but they did a pleasurable job nonetheless.
The 2 days before today's BJ I have enjoyed some nice slender young ones from The Dollhouse etc. I have enjoyed my last 3 days here better than my first 5 earlier in the month. I guess for a 2 week millionaire like myself adjustments are the key, try and relax and take your time in the barhop process. Most big bars on Fields are 3000p for take out, smaller bars are 2000p +. The drink prices around 125p at most bars w/ DLD going for 250p, don't remember single LD prices.
I will say that the AC ladies are masters at deceiving punters into thinking they have larger breast than they actually do. The push up bra is used masterfully here and almost always there's less flesh on the inside.
Oh well, the big city girls have the goods usually and I'm looking forward to a more diverse body type. The AC ladies have a similar body type and I've had my fill, looking forward to different pastures.
So in closing this post I think AC is quite a bit of funright now. I think there are many more lookers (than last time), mostly in the bigger clubs. I'm happy w / my second wind and my choices. That's all for now. A couple pics from my recent BJ session 2 hrs ago.
After reading the Fly-the-Van business I tried to check on the Southern Cross bus. Only once daily, but it seemed a nicer vehicle when I rode it a couple of times. The SC website is for sale, but they are still taking bookings through reservations services. Can anyone verify that the bus still runs?
Southern Cross. They might be suffering for the same reason Swagman are. Not enough passengers. Nowadays, doesn't make sense for Swagman to use a 50 or so seater for only 6/10 passengers. I have been on the van recently, driver etc no problem. Swagman most probably sold out o Chinese, cause future of Angeles looking rather bleak, it seems. Still three times a day, something Southern Cross could never offer.
Police Raids and expensive scams by bogus or real Police P500,000 , P50,000 etc pay offs by foreigner visitors. Some police armed etc, does no good. Someone shot dead leaving Money Changer etc. Folks seem to be staying away from Angeles and possibly going to Thailand instead. For sure an excess of girls over punters. Bar owners must be suffering. Lots of changes in ownership indicates that. Seemingly increased crime towards foreigners, means less visitors, so possibly Southern Cross has crashed, and Swagman is being realistic and started using a van instead of a bus. I don't blame them.
I believe bar raids have started again. Angeles is a shadow of what it used to be. Consequently services trimmed. It is to be expected under current circumstances.
Socker, Thank you for your enjoyable post. ET.
Sorry to hear you had such a bad time especially since I was recommending it here. Swagman operates the Manila AC round trip and the AC Subic RT. I think they have 2 or 3 vans and 1 big bus. Its not like they own a fleet. Pinoy vehicle maintenance is legendarily poor so likely the bus was down. I have taken the vans a few times over the years. Once from Subic to AC on short notice with only 1 other guy. I have taken the Ermita to AC where they used the Van but it was never packed. Thats very surprising to hear the driver drove crazy. The typical white van on the provinces is operated by a reckless pinoy Schumacher want to-be whose racing some imaginary foe. But the Swagman drivers were always very cautious and professional.I don't think the bus was down. They simply don't have enough customers (anymore) to fill it up.
The driver I had wasn't really driving like crazy (I've had far worse) but he was certainly not driving cautious and professional. Speeding all the time in Manila where it's absolutely useless because after a couple of hundred meters he had to hit the breaks again. Overtaking left and right with high speed. Cutting off other vehicles. Things like that.
WestCoast1
02-14-15, 12:33
but he was certainly not driving cautious and professional. Speeding all the time in Manila where it's absolutely useless because after a couple of hundred meters he had to hit the breaks again. Overtaking left and right with high speed. Cutting off other vehicles. Things like that.In Los Angeles they call that: Wednesday.
In Los Angeles they call that: Wednesday.And what does that mean?
WestCoast1
02-14-15, 17:56
And what does that mean?It means traffic is pretty crappy there most any day of the week.
Mr Enternational
02-15-15, 05:59
I was outside at NAIA last night at 1210. The yellow taxi line was the longest that I have ever seen it. And there were no taxis waiting to boot. Thanks to the poster who mentioned Uber the other day. Luckily, I loaded the app and made an account while I was waiting in Japan. I started the app but didn't really know what I was doing. I was able to order a car, but it was going to departures and I was at arrivals. I sent a couple of text messages to the driver but he didn't respond. Maybe it was because I was texting from my US number.
I pulled the phone out with my Smart SIM, to see if I had any load left from last time. All my emails and facebook shit loaded when I turned it on. Load and internet too! Unfortunately the driver had already cancelled; I guess because I was not where the Uber said I was.
I kept standing in the taxi line. There were no other Uber cars available. About 5 minutes later one popped up and I grabbed it. Immediately I called the driver and told him that I was at post 4 on the arrivals level. According to Uber the ride to Victory Liner is normally 103 p, but since there was high demand at that time I would have to pay a 30% premium for a total of 134 p. The ride was 13 minutes.
As soon as I got to Victory Liner the Baguio bus was ready to go. I gave them my scuba gear and a bag with my clothes to put underneath while I carried my back pack with my more important things on board. My usual back row was already taken by a family but there were plenty of seats open. I was able to get two seats to myself. The price was 150 p. We pulled up at Dau station at 2:43 am and I hopped in the first trike smoking. I arrived at the hotel at 2:53 am and handed the driver 100 pesos (because of my scuba gear and the late hour) and didn't look back. I checked in and headed to the club.
2 hours 43 minutes en route from NAIA to my hotel in AC 384 pesos.
Radical Guy
02-15-15, 06:24
We pulled up at Dau station at 2:43 am and I hopped in the first trike smoking. I arrived at the hotel at 2:53 am and handed the driver 100 pesos (because of my scuba gear and the late hour) and didn't look back. I checked in and headed to the club.
2 hours 43 minutes en route from NAIA to my hotel in AC 384 pesos.How did you manage to squeeze all your luggage, scuba gear, and yourself into one trike? Were you traveling light?
RG.
Member #4566
02-15-15, 08:39
AC to MNL.
Fly-the-Bus has become a less attractive mode of transportation over the years. Last time I took it from AC to Swagman in MNL, I was in a cramped van. A couple guys were over powering conversationalists and I could not wait for the ride to end. The bus from Dau solves a lot of problems and saves some expense. However early one morning I was in the Dau terminal with lots of people looking to go to MNL. I could not figure out where to wait to secure the next bus. I must have seen 5 buses to MNL come and go and me running around with luggage trying to get on the right line. Next time things are like that, I will bribe somebody who looks official 50 pesos to get me on the next bus with a window seat.
MNL to AC.
When I arrive at NAIA, I exit the airport and go upstairs and get a taxi letting off passengers. I make sure the taxi puts his meter on. Sometimes I have asked the driver to drive me to AC for 1500 pesos and he pays the tolls which are maybe 40 pesos. Taxi drivers have usually accepted this. I have gone as high as1700 pesos. I tell the driver to go to the Dau terminal after he lets me off at my hotel and he can get passengers to take back to MNL and make some more money. Otherwise, I ask the driver to take me 5 star bus terminal and get a bus to Dau.
I have a friend who has been going to the PI ever since he was a serviceman in the VN war and he had little money to spend. When he exits the airport, he goes to the right and walks to a jeepney stand maybe 50 or so meters on the sidewalk as it curves out of the airport. For less than 20 pesos, the jeep will drop you off at the bus terminal in about the same time a taxi will take you.
To reiterate the recent posts about Manila AC transport that have been very helpful.
Went to Swagman to reserve a seat on the 3:00 pm bus in a few days time. You can't reserve I was told to just show up. It was just as well. I remembered reading something recently here so I checked it out and did the bus thing. Worked great!
11:00 am.
96 php, gave 150 35 minutes. Taxi from Century Park hotel to 5 Star bus station in Pasay.
Here you just get on the bus that is loading, there is no official place to purchase tickets. You pay once you are rolling. Your extra bag is put below. I paid the guy beside me 100 php to get his aisle seat.
11:30-2:30 pm.
150 php - 2 hours later, very cold AC, way too loud stupid Filipino movie volume being played and you are at the Dau bus station in AC (Except for the very much needed side-of-the-road [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) break the way through).
2:50-3:00 pm.
100 php 8 minutes tricycle took me and my luggage to the end of Walking Street. I walked along to Wild Orchid Resort.
The entire trip was worry free and very, very cheap.
Door to door 400 php, $9 USD, $12 CDN wow.
Mr Enternational
02-15-15, 09:27
How did you manage to squeeze all your luggage, scuba gear, and yourself into one trike? Were you traveling light?
RG.Trike driver magic. First I got in and put my backpack on the seat. The driver put my scuba bag in front of me then gave me my duffle bag to hold in my lap. If not for diving I can usually get away with just my Swiss Gear backpack.
Radical Guy
02-15-15, 16:26
Trike driver magic. First I got in and put my backpack on the seat. The driver put my scuba bag in front of me then gave me my duffle bag to hold in my lap. If not for diving I can usually get away with just my Swiss Gear backpack.That explains it. I'm a big guy, six feet tall, and I was traveling with my backpack plus two hard-case suitcases: One big, one carry-on size. I took two trikes. As some here have pointed out, I was fortunate that the trike driver carrying my suitcases didn't just make off with my stuff.
RG.
Doors of Nasty Duck are all locked up. I asked the guard next door and the girls inside and both said it was raided Friday.
Everything else is A-OK as far as I can see in AC.
Further to my earlier report, I believe the bar with somewhat less desirables was Bar Nana, while the okay upstairs bar was Sweet Dragon ('s Den).
RE comments about the Swagman bus, there were only 3-4 passengers on both my journeys (beginning of Feb this year), while the Victory buses we passed had faces at all the windows, so somewhere between 50% and 100% I guess. The Swagman drivers were okay except for their insistence on going down back alleys and side streets in some ill conceived notion that it would be quicker. It wasn't. Well, obviously I don't know for sure, but I do know that doing 3-point turns down several streets in a row isn't getting us anywhere fast. As for the Swagman hotels, I only saw the lobby / bar of the Manila one and was put off by the flies, and as I described earlier, the AC one was pretty grim too.
Just finished my 4th trip to AC in 2 years. Heading back for my 5th shortly. Here are some brief notes:
1. Learned to control my alcohol intake. Previously a somewhat heavy drinker, I cut out all daytime drinks and limited night time drinks to stay at optimal performance levels. I used to be a frequent at high soc but I decided that going there not only doubled my alcohol intake, but cut my sleep in half. Switching to bar fining increased my outlay for women, but generally ended up with higher quality, and surprisingly ended up being not much more expensive overall. Didn't save any money substituting soda waters for beers but felt a million miles better. I realize this isn't for everyone but I don't need alcohol to talk with the girls.
2. I realize that some punters take the attitude that they are paying, and so therefore as long as you have the cash nothing else matters, but looking around me sometimes and listening to stories from the girls, I will argue that mileage varies greatly. These girls are always sizing you up as a customer and the bar is so low. A little hygiene, clean clothes, shave, dress respectably and be nice and you will have a much better time. I routinely take the superstar girls from the bikini contests etc, I never buy any beads and rarely get anything but a lovely attitude from them simply by being and looking respectable. I get them for 3-4 pops, great performances (mostly) and most don't mind hanging around until the next afternoon. They know they can be comfortable with me and that I am not going to give them a bad experience. They don't ask for much really.
3. Be careful in High Soc. THey do not check IDs and there are quite a few [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls floating around in there. Be smart and if it looks very young, I would stay away, no matter what they say their age is.
4. The chicken sisig at Gilligans in SM is fantastic. Highly recommend.
5. Nothing good comes from being cheap. I'm not saying you need to be making it rain, but being cheap will get you mostly poor experiences IMHO. Be conscious of your reputation, especially in bars you frequent. The girls talk and share much more information than we do on these forums and you can quickly get pegged as a certain type of customer. Something as simple as drinking a few times in a bar and not buying any LDs can get you written off as a non customer. Same with not tipping the girls- if you become known as a guy who doesn't tip, next time you return in the bar, expect them all to know this about you.
6. A reality check is a good thing. Its sometimes easy to have your perception of reality thrown off by spending too much time in a place like AC or Pattaya. I am 34 but easily pass for 25, and so I always bend the truth on my age (hey the girls do it so why can't I?) I sometimes find myself forgetting that I am not actually 25. Get outside the fantasy world that is AC, to a normal city, away from any working girls and notice that the cute 20 year old stunners are not all lining up for sn evening with you, or chasing you down the street. In fact most good girls won't even look your way for half a second. Puts things into perspective about what's really going on in AC. Sobering yet refreshing experience, and I think, a healthy reminder of reality to make sure you don't lose yourself.
Just my opinions, take it or leave it. I am a long time member here and been mongering a long time now in quite a few locations, but I haven't made many posts, so I thought I should contribute something. .
Cheers,
Dg1980
Doors of Nasty Duck are all locked up. I asked the guard next door and the girls inside and both said it was raided Friday.
Everything else is A-OK as far as I can see in AC.I heard from a girl that had quit working there 3 weeks ago. Apparently quite a few girls had quit there 3 weeks ago because, according to them the owner was a jerk. According to her, at the time of the raid they had 3 younger than 18 yo girls working there.
Mr Enternational
02-16-15, 15:08
After reading the Fly-the-Van business I tried to check on the Southern Cross bus. Only once daily, but it seemed a nicer vehicle when I rode it a couple of times. The SC website is for sale, but they are still taking bookings through reservations services. Can anyone verify that the bus still runs?I saw an SC bus in front of the Orchid Inn this morning. The bus said Wild Orchid on the back window.
WestCoast1
02-16-15, 15:39
6. A reality check is a good thing. Its sometimes easy to have your perception of reality thrown off by spending too much time in a place like AC or Pattaya. I am 34 but easily pass for 25, and so I always bend the truth on my age (hey the girls do it so why can't I?) I sometimes find myself forgetting that I am not actually 25. Get outside the fantasy world that is AC, to a normal city, away from any working girls and notice that the cute 20 year old stunners are not all lining up for sn evening with you, or chasing you down the street. In fact most good girls won't even look your way for half a second. Puts things into perspective about what's really going on in AC. Sobering yet refreshing experience, and I think, a healthy reminder of reality to make sure you don't lose yourself.
Just my opinions, take it or leave it. I am a long time member here and been mongering a long time now in quite a few locations, but I haven't made many posts, so I thought I should contribute something. .
Cheers,
Dg1980Excellent report DG, very descriptive.
Somebody has informed me that I'm probably wrong about Bar Nana. Apologies if so. I don't know what bar it was then!
1. Learned to control my alcohol intake.Saw a guy (porriner) at the end of Raymond st. Standing, with his pants at his knees, drunk out of his mind. Girls were calling each other to come and gawk at him. His friend was trying to get him to move, but his legs seemed cemented to the ground.
Mr Enternational
02-17-15, 02:53
Seriously? In AC?
Seriously? In AC?I get it too sometimes in my hotel. But the strange thing is: not all the time. Not now for example.
Streetlooker
02-17-15, 06:20
I heard from a girl that had quit working there 3 weeks ago. Apparently quite a few girls had quit there 3 weeks ago because, according to them the owner was a jerk. According to her, at the time of the raid they had 3 younger than 18 yo girls working there.I agree about the nasty duck owner. He is a slim ball IMO. When he walks into the bar everyday the girls all must line up and kiss him. Dude made me not want to go back there thou the girls were nice. Other bars to go to so I never have been back. Foxes next door is a good bar.
WestCoast1
02-17-15, 07:10
Seriously? In AC?I got a similar error message in LOS Angeles a few days ago at my hotel, both for ISG and for a porn site that I like. Other porn sites worked just fine. Just to test the thing, I turned on a VPN with a server right there in LA, and low / behold, both ISG and the porn site popped right up. When I turned the VPN off, both sites failed to work.
LuvAsianTang
02-17-15, 09:06
Further to my earlier report, I believe the bar with somewhat less desirables was Bar Nana, while the okay upstairs bar was Sweet Dragon ('s Den).
RE comments about the Swagman bus, there were only 3-4 passengers on both my journeys (beginning of Feb this year), while the Victory buses we passed had faces at all the windows, so somewhere between 50% and 100% I guess. The Swagman drivers were okay except for their insistence on going down back alleys and side streets in some ill conceived notion that it would be quicker. It wasn't. Well, obviously I don't know for sure, but I do know that doing 3-point turns down several streets in a row isn't getting us anywhere fast. As for the Swagman hotels, I only saw the lobby / bar of the Manila one and was put off by the flies, and as I described earlier, the AC one was pretty grim too.I stayed at the swagman one time and as I was going to my room at about 1 am I saw a small bite of food on the floor and at the same time I saw a huge rat. I thought. If that fucking rat beats me to that nibble of food I'm going to be really pissed off. We both lunged at the same time and the little bastard beat me to it. I complained to the staff and they just said " better lose some weight so you are faster on your feet and shrugged their shoulders.
But I didn't have to go far to catch the fly the bus to a c , and that was why I was there.
Happy pooning L A T.
I came across this, saved on an old, rarely used computer. Page is still online after 5+ years. It's funny how things fade from memory, but pop back into perspective when reminded.
http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/sep09/
I called off two massage girls to my room yesterday evening. Yes, two. Not simultaneously but one after the other. Because the first one sucked (not my dick). She gave a very mediocre massage and was done in 45 minutes. No extra's on the menu.
I had kept the 'business card' of another one that I liked, a PYT, so I called her off. She was only 18, very cute and she gave a very good massage. But alas, again no extra's on the menu. Not even a HJ (not that I wanted that). So YMMV.
Last week I had two massage girls from Burgos in Makati and they were both very horny fucks. So again YMMV but maybe the girls in Makati are more up to it than those in Angeles?
OTOH: one of the massage girls I had in Makati showed up in Angeles. Her boss has a spa in both Makati and Angeles.
WestCoast1
02-18-15, 14:33
I called off two massage girls to my room yesterday evening. Yes, two. Not simultaneously but one after the other. Because the first one sucked (not my dick). She gave a very mediocre massage and was done in 45 minutes. No extra's on the menu.
Where were the girls from? One should not assume that all massage girls offer extras.
Where were the girls from? One should not assume that all massage girls offer extras.I'm not assuming that all of them give extra's. These were girls that hand out cards with their phone number near the entrance of Walking Street. There have been some reports here of girls offering extra's. And also of girls who don't offer extra's. So now I've added another report of girls who don't offer extra's, LOL!
I called off two massage girls to my room yesterday evening. Yes, two. Not simultaneously but one after the other. Because the first one sucked (not my dick). She gave a very mediocre massage and was done in 45 minutes. No extra's on the menu.
I had kept the 'business card' of another one that I liked, a PYT, so I called her off. She was only 18, very cute and she gave a very good massage. But alas, again no extra's on the menu. Not even a HJ (not that I wanted that). So YMMV.
Last week I had two massage girls from Burgos in Makati and they were both very horny fucks. So again YMMV but maybe the girls in Makati are more up to it than those in Angeles?
OTOH: one of the massage girls I had in Makati showed up in Angeles. Her boss has a spa in both Makati and Angeles.It's not rocket science. There are plenty of men who come to AC and who don't demand sex from these massage girls. If all men demanded sex from these cuties, then they'd all fuck. Best thing to do is ask the girl upfront if she will fuck or not. Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!
It's not rocket science. There are plenty of men who come to AC and who don't demand sex from these massage girls. If all men demanded sex from these cuties, then they'd all fuck. Best thing to do is ask the girl upfront if she will fuck or not. Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!Worse case scenario you get a one hour massage for the price of a lady drink or two in a typical bar. I only have had 3 massages there 2 incall and one in my room. All were decent massages. No happy endings but I like the simple mystery of getting a girl in my room and seeing what happens. Afternoons in AC can be pretty boring especially if its hot so its a cheap way to pass the time if your not into drinking during the day. I definitely plan to incorporate more massages into my routine in the future.
LuvAsianTang
02-18-15, 17:33
It's not rocket science. There are plenty of men who come to AC and who don't demand sex from these massage girls. If all men demanded sex from these cuties, then they'd all fuck. Best thing to do is ask the girl upfront if she will fuck or not. Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!Thats always the best way, the straight forward approach. No beating around the Bush if you want to beat around in the Bush haha.
L A T.
I was in AC for 8 wonderful days & nights. I will post a detailed report soon. But I just want to let everyone know that I was introduced to a club Called Midnight Rodeo on Oak St at Raymond St, next to King's Head. They are opened everyday from 20:30-02:00. They have 2 live bands that performed on different nights. There is no cover charge! I was there on Friday to Sunday nights with the same band who basically played non-stop until 2 AM. They played all kinds of music, took requests and even let you sing or play one of their instruments. I was amazed at their ability to play all kinds of songs. In fact they challenged me to request whatever songs I liked. The best fun was on Valentine's Night when I was there with my favorite girl. They sang all my favorite songs while we danced all night as they alternately teased me and complimented me on my beautiful date.
The club also have bar girls who will drink with you and go back with you if mutually agreed. The only difference with other bars is these girls don't dance on stage. Most of the girls were very pretty and I was told the barfine is less than the normal rates (I did not ask). There are no mamasans and the girls will not come to you unless you ask. The drinks were also cheaper. Give it a shot. It's a change from the regular AC bars with DJs and girls dancing on stage and us just sitting, watching and nursing our drinks.
Oh yes, it you go and like the band, buy them a round of drinks or drop something decent into their kitty box. Let them know they are appreciated.
Funman13.
Streetlooker
02-18-15, 20:47
It's not rocket science. There are plenty of men who come to AC and who don't demand sex from these massage girls. If all men demanded sex from these cuties, then they'd all fuck. Best thing to do is ask the girl upfront if she will fuck or not. Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!Its been my experience with massage girls in AC that you have to become a simi reguler of the girl in order to get extras. I have never got extras on the 1st or 2nd time with a girl at a regular massage place like ella's or any other like that. Most of the time it takes till the 3rd or 4th session to get them to trust you enough to get some extra service and then you might only get a HJ. Frankly to give perspective I want the massage only most of the time anyways so I am not always looking for extras. Plenty of places to take care of your dick in ac But a good massage for the rest of your body is hard to find IMO.
Mr Enternational
02-19-15, 01:34
Worse case scenario you get a one hour massage for the price of a lady drink or two in a typical bar. I only have had 3 massages there 2 incall and one in my room.When I talked to the girls the other night the price of a massage was 500. Thing is, in my legit massage place I pay 250 or so with people that I know are certified. Why would I pay 500 to a jackleg freelance who has no overhead? The thing about freelance is that it is supposed to be cheaper than a real shop, not twice as much.
When I talked to the girls the other night the price of a massage was 500. Thing is, in my legit massage place I pay 250 or so with people that I know are certified. Why would I pay 500 to a jackleg freelance who has no overhead? The thing about freelance is that it is supposed to be cheaper than a real shop, not twice as much.I never suggested you should do it, I never encouraged you or anyone to to do it so I can't answer your question, as I don't know you or your preferences.
My experiences with massage girls were very limited. All legit ones and the one outcall was from a girl from the one across from the Pacific Breeze Oahu Wing or whatever they call it. The incall was 250 I think the outcall for 1 hour was 400? I forget I don't memorize the numbers.
I think the steeper price stems from the possibility of getting some form of sexual experience from the FL Massage girl being higher than a 'professional' one with a store front one the first time as others have noted.
The flooding of free lance massage girls on Fields is a relatively new phenomenon. It may get quashed since it has no political standing like an regular establishment that can be squeezed and milked by the local leeches in power.
Member #4566
02-19-15, 04:35
Last week I had two massage girls from Burgos in Makati and they were both very horny fucks. How much are the massage girls on Burgos?
Member #4566
02-19-15, 04:41
The club also have bar girls who will drink with you and go back with you if mutually agreed.It used to be down the lane from Kokomos on the corner of Blow Road and that back street. Did you find how much the girls wanted? Were they freelancers?
Jimmy Boy 99
02-19-15, 04:47
Its been my experience with massage girls in AC that you have to become a simi reguler of the girl in order to get extras. I have never got extras on the 1st or 2nd time with a girl at a regular massage place like ella's or any other like that. Most of the time it takes till the 3rd or 4th session to get them to trust you enough to get some extra service and then you might only get a HJ. Frankly to give perspective I want the massage only most of the time anyways so I am not always looking for extras. Plenty of places to take care of your dick in ac But a good massage for the rest of your body is hard to find IMO.I went to one on Teodoro Street and was offered a HJ on the first visit. She wanted P 1000 total (P300 for the massage and P 700 for the HJ). I laughed and said thanks anyway. She then kept mssaging my dick while we negotiated, and reached a price of P 500 total. Paid her the P 200 directly before I went to pay the massage fee up front. Repeated a couple of times and she seemed happy to see me each time.
I also went to another massage place and requested a massage with no extras and the girl I asked passed me on to someone else who presumably would do a veggie massage, since she apparently wasn't interested in that alone. I think you can get a HJ at most of the massage parlors on Teodoro Street.
When I talked to the girls the other night the price of a massage was 500. Thing is, in my legit massage place I pay 250 or so with people that I know are certified. Why would I pay 500 to a jackleg freelance who has no overhead? The thing about freelance is that it is supposed to be cheaper than a real shop, not twice as much.Then you talked to an expensive one. The prices you see the most on the cards they hand out are 300 for oil massage and 400 for dry massage; per hour in your hotel or home.
Maybe some of them are jackleg freelancers, I don't know. So far I've had 5 massages in total, 2 in Makati and 3 here in Angeles. Only one of them was mediocre and unskilled, the other ones were all very good. Don't know if they are certified but these girls knew very well how to give a proper massage.
The first time in Makati I had the massage in a spa. So at least some of them do have overhead.
By the way: in Makati the price is indeed 500 if you want the massage in your hotel or at home. In Angeles they don't have different prices for incall or outcall as far as I know now.
How much are the massage girls on Burgos?500 per hour in your hotel (although the second girl quoted me 600 for the first 90 minutes).
So 500 for 1 hour massage and then another 500 for each additional hour. I didn't negotiate the price for FS upfront. I gave both girls 1500 P and they seemed to be happy with it.
One of the girls told me she only gets 150 P for each hour, the rest is for her boss (mamasan).
No happy endings but I like the simple mystery of getting a girl in my room and seeing what happens. I like that too!
It's not rocket science. There are plenty of men who come to AC and who don't demand sex from these massage girls. If all men demanded sex from these cuties, then they'd all fuck. Best thing to do is ask the girl upfront if she will fuck or not. Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!I have never tried it but I wonder if these girls will tell you upfront, out there on the street surrounded by colleagues, if they give extra service. And beside that it is illegal of course.
IslandMan27
02-19-15, 05:54
Just finished my 4th trip to AC in 2 years. Heading back for my 5th shortly. Here are some brief notes:
2. I realize that some punters take the attitude that they are paying, and so therefore as long as you have the cash nothing else matters, but looking around me sometimes and listening to stories from the girls, I will argue that mileage varies greatly. These girls are always sizing you up as a customer and the bar is so low. A little hygiene, clean clothes, shave, dress respectably and be nice and you will have a much better time. DG,
Thanks for posting that. I'm glad someone has chimed in about being a little groomed and show a little decency, then it can yield better experiences with the ladies.
I'm in the same boat when it comes to how I took care of my appearance when I was out there in 2011. We are the same age, and I can say that thanks to the good advice from some of the members here in the forum about appearance and attitude, it helped immensely as an AC newbie.
To any first timers coming out to AC, I'm not a veteran like most of these gents but from my own experience, I whole heartedly agree with DG's points in this report. As always, it's a YMMV, but the results from your experience with the girls could be so much more. Especially if you don't show up at the bar, looking like you just came from the gym or playing a sport.
I wore a short sleeve polo, or a clean tee with a little logo, light weight jeans or light weight khakis and closed toe shoes out every night. The ladies notice. Always. After I hooked up with my "long term" girl in AC, I relaxed and a little and wore shorts when I came to take her out of the bar every night. However, I still showered and shaved. Showed up like it was my first night. Every night. Without a doubt, this made the GFE even more memorable.
Shower. Shave. Present oneself as being a little groomed. Smile, show you've got a little warmth and personality, and most importantly try to share a laugh with the ladies. One will have a killer time.
Sounds like a lot. But that's the game I like to play when I'm out there. I'm going for GFE and I enjoy playing a part in that fantasy.
DG, thanks again on good bits of knowledge that you have resurfaced from the depths of the forum.
ConquerorVal
02-19-15, 08:19
I was in AC for 8 wonderful days & nights. I will post a detailed report soon. But I just want to let everyone know that I was introduced to a club Called Midnight Rodeo on Oak St at Raymond St, next to King's Head. They are opened everyday from 20:30-02:00.I may check it out tonight. Sounds interesting. Thank you for the maps and advice. Yesterday, I went to the dollhouse with couple of girls, nothing spectacular in the club but everyone seemed to have a good time. Went to the rest room and one of the girls using it asked me if I wanted head? Sir? So polite:)
ConquerorVal
02-19-15, 08:45
Met this girl and her two friends on my first night in AC. The girls are 21 and yesterday she brought her friend for me too fuck. Today she said she will bring her other friend so I will be able to do all three of them. My third day here, and all I have managed to do is rest during the day and go out and fornicate in the night. Life is good in AC.
Member #4566
02-19-15, 10:20
500 per hour in your hotel (although the second girl quoted me 600 for the first 90 minutes).
So 500 for 1 hour massage and then another 500 for each additional hour. I didn't negotiate the price for FS upfront. I gave both girls 1500 P and they seemed to be happy with it.
One of the girls told me she only gets 150 P for each hour, the rest is for her boss (mamasan).Forgive me. I can be dense. You "gave both girls 1500 p. " Was that the total or only for the fuck job with the 500 p massage add on?
Forgive me. I can be dense. You "gave both girls 1500 p. " Was that the total or only for the fuck job with the 500 p massage add on?The 1500 was only for the fuck job.
Met this girl and her two friends on my first night in AC. Where did you meet them? Bar? Freelance? DIA?
My fav bar in AC is Brown Sugar.
Last year I made friends with a waitress (lets call her Edna, in her early 30's, very pretty, would have been very, very pretty in her day) and we sat together for a while, finally we were massaging each others back and neck, etc. Really hit it off. The mamasan was all cool about everything.
Being a bit of a cheap Charlie, I do not barfine a lot, prefer to go after FL's (Facebook, Tinder, etc) SW's or get the waitresses number for after hour action.
P.S. – this has come to bite me in the ass though, makes the barfines seem pretty damn cheap.
Anyways, she kind of panicked when I asked her, saying she has never done this and how much trouble she could get into. I know, I know, but I think she was telling the truth.
Had a great 5 am romp. We texted a bit after that and lost contact.
A year later I am back in Brown Sugar and the first thing I do is blab to the waitresses about my last visit and what I did (got the girl after hours). I was excited to be back in the place that provided me good memories.
I could not remember the girls name or face, but to make a long story short, just by chance the girl I was talking to was the exact girl that I had last year! Same damn girl! Out of the 15 waitresses present, it just happened to be HER that served me. She remembered the story but had forgotten my face. It all came back to me as well as we freaked out over the coincidence.
Another after hour encounter ensued. 1000 php and everybody was happy.
It seems this trip I am getting about 50/50 young, hot, beautiful, tight vs semi-heifers.
Can't go wrong with heifers sometimes, just like an old Cadillac.
Llantarnam
02-19-15, 20:27
Way too many pussies in AC nowadays!I'm in town in just over 3 weeks time and these are the sort of words I like to hear.
Streetlooker
02-19-15, 20:50
I'm in town in just over 3 weeks time and these are the sort of words I like to hear.Got to like the supply higher then the demand. This allows for us in demand to get good prices and be catered too. Enjoy you trip.
Capt Munch
02-20-15, 02:03
Got to like the supply higher then the demand. This allows for us in demand to get good prices and be catered too. Enjoy you trip.At least from what I have seen, for a large part, the "Philippine business model" has very little to do with any "supply vs. Demand" pricing.
Quite often it seems, the fewer customers, means less money taken in = not so good business. Then in order to bring in "more money" . . . . raise the prices!
If you have a few customers that maybe pay the new, higher prices. . . . must mean that the "business model" is working.
I am never sure. . . . that anyone here does a reality check to see if at the end of the day. . . . that there was an increase of actual revenue.
That said. The better managed bars in Angeles have lots of production reports and do keep an eye out on their revenue stream. Each dancer / waitress is measured against a target for drinks and takeout. Consistently missing targets or excessive absences can be reason enough to get fired.
NOW. . . Individually, the girls probably realize when they are starving and have less than 20 php to their name and no load, that it may be time to:
1. Hit up friends / relatives for money or food.
2. Beg from strangers.
3. actually work (but this is delayed satisfaction since payment can be next day or next week.).
4. Find a rich foreigner with pisos.
As long as it doesn't interrupt to much with the 12 to 14 hours sleep a day that Filipinas think they need!
Munch.
BrainDrain
02-20-15, 02:38
A year later I am back in Brown Sugar and the first thing I do is blab to the waitresses about my last visit and what I did (got the girl after hours). I was excited to be back in the place that provided me good memories.I could not remember the girls name or face, but to make a long story short, just by chance the girl I was talking to was the exact girl that I had last year! Same damn girl! Out of the 15 waitresses present, it just happened to be HER that served me. She remembered the story but had forgotten my face. It all came back to me as well as we freaked out over the coincidence.
.I think I have written elsewhere in this forum about how small AC really is. I was in a bar after a long absences of six months. One of the girls remembered me by name.
It is a much smaller place than we think. There is a lot of girls do rotate through the city but there are also quite a few girls that do stay for a few years.
I've decided that I'm not going to collect girls numbers anymore to keep in contact between visits. It just gets too difficult. I've deleted all of the bgs from my Facebook. WHen they time comes to visit, it's pretty easy to just collect new FB friends whom are in town and ready to party.
Enjoy the ABC. I miss that place.
BD.
ConquerorVal
02-20-15, 04:23
Where did you meet them? Bar? Freelance? DIA?Actually, all three of them were hanging out close to the Brown Sugar bar?
Will be in AC less than week from now for 8-9 days. My dance card is already half filled. A couple of the girls are perimeter BG's who have to be home by midnight. So afternoon starts with them, which is ok with me. On those nights I usually book 2 hour massages after they leave. I have 2 favorite massage girls I rotate with. No extras with them, only great firm massages. In the morning I will often get a text from the night before girl who wants to stop by before work. Sure, stop on by! Sometimes you have to be flexible!
I bfine the other girls around 9:00 pm and they stay the night and usually leave around 10 or 11 am. I have never had a massage girl come when I have an over night guest sleeping in the same bed. Wth, I think I will try that this time.
I have found my jet lag is not bad when I get 2 hour massages the first couple nights. It puts me to sleep and my body seems to adjust to the 16 hour time difference quickly. Sure wish I could get that kind of out call massage at home.
FYI, the massages are P450 per hour from the hotel referral service provider. I am told the hotel gets P100 and the girl gets P100 or less. The spa company gets the balance. I tip the girl P100/ hour.
Life is good in AC!
Capt Munch
02-20-15, 07:17
I came across this, saved on an old, rarely used computer. Page is still online after 5+ years. It's funny how things fade from memory, but pop back into perspective when reminded.
http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/sep09/The street behind Walking Street / Field Avenue is looking a bit different. . . . this is where all the Karaoke Bars and gawd knows how much noise was coming from.
From the referenced Margarita page from 5 years ago. . . .
" Avoid areas where there have been incidents.
The alley that runs behind the Dollhouse Hotel, Champagne, and Royal Amsterdam after dark. There are lots of little bars and karaoke's on this street and an abundance of drunk Filipino guys looking for a fight. ".
It looks like this today. ! A couple of the stalls still have tenants and are still standing even though the stalls on either side have been demolished. Reportedly the plan is to create a new 2 story shopping arcade. The demolition started last week and seems to be moving remarkably quickly.
Other "news" . . . . there is a construction firm (maybe not the one that was responsible for the original Walking Street "improvement") replacing some or maybe all of the concrete painted circles with actual COLORED PAVING STONES. If the whole street is done, it will look a lot nicer than the almost 2 year old debacle that was the current look. LOL.
Munch.
I've decided that I'm not going to collect girls numbers anymore to keep in contact between visits.I agree. Easier just to start over each time. It's not like it's hard to find new ones.
If possible though I do try to keep the same phone number for each visit. You never can tell what old friends might give you a call.
Capt Munch
02-20-15, 07:38
I agree. Easier just to start over each time. It's not like it's hard to find new ones.
If possible though I do try to keep the same phone number for each visit. You never can tell what old friends might give you a call.Unless. . . . you find one that you hit it off with particularly well. . . Then stay in contact.
BUT. . . . if you have spare time on your hands.
THEN. . . You can spend lots of time answering the important thing that these girls want to know.
1. Have you had your breakfast / lunch / dinner.
2. What are you doing.
3. Where are you now.
Blah, blah, blah.
I did have one that I liked a few years ago that I saw over 3 visits and approx. 2 years. Contact was over YM.
Then she met her Australian "husband" / sugar daddy who managed to take her to the Land of OZ a couple of times. In between her visits to OZ, she was camped out in the povince with her Filipino boyfriend busy doing Shabu.
Needless to say. . . . that didn't work out all that well.
A few months ago, I saw that she was working in a bar, quite possibly for a single day.
Last week. . . . she walked by me and said that she will be working at the new Crazy House Bar.
Well. . . . maybe.
BUT. . . . why not make new friends every visit:-the.
Munch.
Unless. . . . you find one that you hit it off with particularly well. . . Then stay in contact.
BUT. . . . if you have spare time on your hands.
THEN. . . You can spend lots of time answering the important thing that these girls want to know.
1. Have you had your breakfast / lunch / dinner.
2. What are you doing.
3. Where are you now.
Blah, blah, blah.
Tell me about it. Last night I had this 'conversation' with a regular:
She: Good evening.
Me: Hi.
She: Hello.
Me: Is that all you have to say? LOL.
She: Yes LOL.
Me: Interesting.
She: Hahaha.
Me: Are you bored?
She: Yes.
Me: So now you are bothering me because you are bored? You are such a nice girl.
She: Hehehe sorry.
Reportedly the plan is to create a new 2 story shopping arcade. Hopefully with some nice restaurants with decent food. But most likely only fast food chains.
Last night I received my first 'WeChat date' in my hotel room. Unfortunately she was much chubbier and a bit less attractive than in her pics, but she was not ugly. And she was a nice girl, a 21 yo unemployed single mother. She said her pics were about one year old so in the mean time she gained weight. Just one of many girls with a JBB (Jollibee Belly and Butt). In particular in Manila I saw quite a lot of them but also in the bars here in AC. There are still enough slender and skinny girls from the provinces as well but the JBBs are slowly but surely overtaking them I'm afraid.
She didn't have sex for a long time so she was very horny. She enjoyed DATY a lot, meanwhile fingering her clit and she orgasmed pretty quickly. I penetrated her and her pussy felt good: wet and tight. I fucked her for about 5 minutes and then my dick suddenly lost his appetite and went limp. I guess she was just a bit too chubby to his taste. I tried to get it hard again by licking her pussy and jerking myself off but it was in vain. She didn't want to give me a BJ.
I tried it for 15 minutes and then decided to jerk off and finish on her big Jollibee Belly. I could tell she was a bit disappointed. She needed the shag maybe even more than me. Oh well.
And today at 9 PM I received my second 'WeChat date'. This girl looked much better than in her pics so that was a pleasant surprise (a 7. 5 IMO). A 21 yo IT student, she even showed me her university card. She had a nice body with some babyfat. Her breasts were a bit ugly, small and not nicely shaped, but that didn't bother me. I'm an ass lover after all and that part of her body was perfect.
This girl came across a lot more (semi-) professional than my first date. It was clear from the start that she has done this many times already. It didn't take much chatting to make an appointment, she was familiar with my hotel and once in my room she was more confident than the first girl. Nevertheless she didn't undress right away, like a bar girl or escort girl would do, and we both felt a little bit uncomfortable for the first 5 minutes or so. It's just a bit awkward to meet a girl like this. You chat a little bit (maybe 10 or 15 minutes), make an appointment if it feels good, exchange phone numbers and suddenly she's in your room. OK.... and then what? You talk a little bit to get to know each other, you make some jokes to break the ice, you compliment her with her looks and clothing, things like that.
But as I said this girl was quite confident so after 10 minutes she was sucking my dick and I had a really nice session with her.
It's really amazing how much response you get with a simple profile and a few pics. It takes some time and effort but if you're not too picky you can easily get laid (almost) every day, certainly in a big city like Manila but also here in AC.
Just one tip: the more you search for people nearby, the more response you get. You don't have to contact girls yourself, just do a search for people nearby at least once a day. Then you will pop up more often in other people's searches. I have the impression it works like that anyway. If you're not active you won't pop up that much.
Mr Enternational
02-21-15, 02:00
Last night I received my first 'WeChat date' in my hotel room. Unfortunately she was much chubbier and a bit less attractive than in her picsI was wondering about this post in the Opinions thread. This poster must not have met many pinays from online; or many of anyone for that matter. And what is up with people wanting to know what you think when you do finally meet them? I should start saying well you looked much better in your pictures than you do in real life.
Agree Never seen a girl from the Philippines that didn't look better in real life then in a photo. Also the thing I love about them is how different they look when you see them from different angles.
I was wondering about this post in the Opinions thread. This poster must not have met many pinays from online; or many of anyone for that matter. And what is up with people wanting to know what you think when you do finally meet them? I should start saying well you looked much better in your pictures than you do in real life.
.Would you really say that, that she looks better in her pictures than in real life? Would you really hurt her feelings like that?
ConquerorVal
02-21-15, 03:12
These are the remaining two 21 year olds that keep me busy. Unfortunetelly, the remaining third has departed on a sour note. For an old guy a 21 year old's brain is a real challenge. She had a great body whereas these two have signs of motherhood but are lot more GFE. They go shopping for me and I just sent one to get my laundry done. Apparently they go down on each other. Must investigate. Looks like I will not be getting into any numbers sport fucking here. I am so drained, that even though I have no problems getting wood, it takes me ages if even successful to come. Little brown fucking machines indeed. Have not spent a night alone, and the latest trend seems to be two girls in bed. Will try to do some more bar hopping with them over the next two evenings.
Have not spent a night alone, and the latest trend seems to be two girls in bed. Cute girls CV!
I advise against two girls in bed. Just too damn crowded and hot!
WestCoast1
02-21-15, 04:57
I advise against two girls in bed. Just too damn crowded and hot!Respectfully disagree Mog, and with a smile on my face. Titties to my right, titties to my left. Heaven!
Wicked Roger
02-21-15, 05:41
Respectfully disagree Mog, and with a smile on my face. Titties to my right, titties to my left. Heaven!I am with you Westie. More the merrier is my motto and a mother / daughter combo is nice one to wake to as well sometimes or 2 bisexual sisters LOL.
It's really amazing how much response you get with a simple profile and a few pics. It takes some time and effort but if you're not too picky you can easily get laid (almost) every day, certainly in a big city like Manila but also here in AC.
Just one tip: the more you search for people nearby, the more response you get. You don't have to contact girls yourself, just do a search for people nearby at least once a day. Then you will pop up more often in other people's searches. I have the impression it works like that anyway. If you're not active you won't pop up that much.Nice post, appreciate the info. So were these freebies or did you give them some cab fare?
JR
ConquerorVal
02-21-15, 07:56
Extended my stay for additional three nights until 26th of February, as the bareback (please no sermons) girl friend experience is unbeatable. Not sure what to do with my remaining two girls. Drinking tequila by myself in my hotel room I find myself in a conundrum. I got hooked on the first girl spending my initial three nights with her, and cannot seem to get over her. We had a fight and her two girlfriends are not helpful with me contacting her as mysteriously I have lost her number. It is hard to believe that a middle aged guy in a relatively happy sexless marriage, sounds like a teenager with a crush. The same thing happened to me in Sosua. Get easily attached to young sexy loose women. I am thinking of starting fresh. I find long time sessions leave me emotionally vulnerable. I guess I need to learn to objectify these girls as much as they do us. Any sage advice?
Capt Munch
02-21-15, 08:19
Extended my stay for additional three nights until 26th of February, as the bareback (please no sermons) girl friend experience is unbeatable. Not sure what to do with my remaining two girls. Drinking tequila by myself in my hotel room I find myself in a conundrum. I got hooked on the first girl spending my initial three nights with her, and cannot seem to get over her. We had a fight and her two girlfriends are not helpful with me contacting her as mysteriously I have lost her number. It is hard to believe that a middle aged guy in a relatively happy sexless marriage, sounds like a teenager with a crush. The same thing happened to me in Sosua. Get easily attached to young sexy loose women. I am thinking of starting fresh. I find long time sessions leave me emotionally vulnerable. I guess I need to learn to objectify these girls as much as they do us. Any sage advice?CV,
1. First you need to learn it is all about the money with these girls!
2. You broke the first rule of mongering. . . . you took the same girl for 3 consecutive nights.
3. You must live in one of the countries where the girls are allowed to wear the pants in the relationship and think their pussies are made with gold.
Please go out tonight and find a better / hotter one than you had last night, then the next night try to repeat that performance.
Not all your experiences will be "home runs" but you will be surprised how many Filipinas are happy willing little sweethearts. There are more than just one.
The next time, if you like to see a barfine again, spread it out over a few days or a week before you see her again. She will know that you are NOT all that serious and it is also OK if she is NOT. If she had a good time and she considers you a decent guy, she will go with you again. No worries.
Unless you are planning your vacation on meeting "the ONE", go out and have a good time, you are only here for a short while.
ABBY.
ConquerorVal
02-21-15, 08:38
Dear Abby.
Thank you for your advice. I guess the hardest thing I have is with is accepting the fact that it is all about money. I know it is the truth, but I have a hard time objectifying people. But then the whole world seems to be run by a bunch of sociopaths. I think your first and second points really apply to me. I just need to embrace them more vigilantly.
CV,
1. First you need to learn it is all about the money with these girls!
2. You broke the first rule of mongering. . . . you took the same girl for 3 consecutive nights.
3. You must live in one of the countries where the girls are allowed to wear the pants in the relationship and think their pussies are made with gold.
Please go out tonight and find a better / hotter one than you had last night, then the next night try to repeat that performance.
Not all your experiences will be "home runs" but you will be surprised how many Filipinas are happy willing little sweethearts. There are more than just one.
The next time, if you like to see a barfine again, spread it out over a few days or a week before you see her again. She will know that you are NOT all that serious and it is also OK if she is NOT. If she had a good time and she considers you a decent guy, she will go with you again. No worries.
Unless you are planning your vacation on meeting "the ONE", go out and have a good time, you are only here for a short while.
ABBY.
Dear Abby.
Thank you for your advice. I guess the hardest thing I have is with is accepting the fact that it is all about money. I know it is the truth, but I have a hard time objectifying people. But then the whole world seems to be run by a bunch of sociopaths. I think your first and second points really apply to me. I just need to embrace them more vigilantly.Of course IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY. Everyone involved should know that and if they don't they'll soon learn.
But the fact is, AC GFE is very very good right now. If the lady for hire likes you, she will not treat you like a dollar bill.
Many many AC dancers will barhop for as long as you like, NO CLOCK, and enjoy their time w / you. Afterwards when it's time to go to the room they will fuck you for both pleasure and money, not in that order tho. Mutual pleasure is the reality if you (the monger) are capable of steering the pussy correctly.
If you're 20,30, even 40 w / some game you'll be getting freebies (anywhere) from the more giving BGs, FLs, etc. I'm not that so I pay and I usually enjoy the illusion of not paying, meaning off the charts hot wild sex.
So is it (ONLY) about the money w / a sexy friendly woman that enjoys your company? Deep deep down it is.
Deep down in every facet of society it's about the money. This is not an opinion.
Oh Val, Nice shots of your fucklets, thank you! If I were you I would get out to the big bars and enjoy the show. Bring some eye candy home for your sweet tooth.
I know, I was just there, the quality is very good right now.
This little Subic babe is craning her neck so she can watch my hungry dick pound her nice little pussy. I know she's enjoying her time w/ me, and getting paid too!
Fucking hot little thing.
Azmodeus Fl
02-21-15, 15:37
Yes it is all about the money now. It used to be that most of the girls (33 years ago) were looking to marry foreigners to get out of their situations. Now it's all about the money with either sick relatives or babies or as the last time I was there the girl (college student) wanted me to bareback her so she could claim that I was the daddy and ask for support and threaten to go to authorities to get child support or even have you arrested. All I'm saying is to be aware of the schemes out there.
Llantarnam
02-21-15, 17:05
Tell me about it. Last night I had this 'conversation' with a regular:
She: Good evening.
Me: Hi.
She: Hello.
Me: Is that all you have to say? LOL.
She: Yes LOL.
Me: Interesting.
She: Hahaha.
Me: Are you bored?
She: Yes.
Me: So now you are bothering me because you are bored? You are such a nice girl.
She: Hehehe sorry.Good to see that the art of conversation isn't dead.
Two of my regulars showed me their apartment located at a 15 minute trike ride from Walking Street in an area that can best be described as a slum (although I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world).
Picture no. 1 (which is the last one of the 5 below) shows the entrance to the house they share with a family with 3 children.
Picture 2, 3 and 4 show their apartment that's only a part of the total house (about 1/3 I think).
When you come in there's a small 'kitchen' but it only has cold running water; there's no gas for cooking. You can see a part of the sink in picture 2.
In picture 3 you see the living room, only 9 square meters at the most!
Picture 4 shows the view from the living room at the kitchen and the toilet (the door on the right). No shower, only a toilet.
Picture 5 shows their street.
Can you imagine they are living in this small apartment together with 2 kids? They have almost zero possessions. I saw maybe 6 carton boxes with all their belongings. They sleep on the air matrass you see in the pictures. No bed, no chairs, no television, no aircon, nothing.
The rent is 2000 PhP / month (excluding water and electricity).
They showed me around their neighbourhood and I met some of their friends. It's amazing how relaxed and friendly these people are. Lots of children all around. And mosquitos, LOL.
This neighbourhood is home to a lot of trike drivers by the way. I can understand better now why they want 100 PhP for a ride.
I have never been a cheap charlie, I think I even spoil the girls a little bit and after seeing this I will continue doing that.
I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?
Nice post, appreciate the info. So were these freebies or did you give them some cab fare?
JRI gave them some 'cab fare'. In the chat sessions it was clear they would not do it for free. Not by asking for money upfront but more with phrases like 'I do this because I'm in need'.
I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?They ask stupid questions because they are stupid. That's why we love them!
as the last time I was there the girl (college student) wanted me to bareback her so she could claim that I was the daddy and ask for support and threaten to go to authorities to get child support or even have you arrested. How can you be arrested for bareback? Is that a crime?
How can you be arrested for bareback? Not for doing her bareback, but in case he refuses to pay child support.
that can best be described as a slum.
The rent is 2000 PhP / month (excluding water and electricity).IMO this is definitely not a slum since it has a toilet, water and electricity and the house is (relatively) solid built.
They ask stupid questions because they are stupid. That's why we love them!Sometimes the stupidity is not in the question but in the responder.
Nice post Mogwai. I have seen this and even worse conditions for the go-go ladies in Angeles, since spending some time there with repeat girls. Some places housing 10-12 girls and maybe 5-6 in the same bedroom. I can understand that they look for someone to take them away from this life. In the meantime we should treat them good as you point out. It's been a while since I was in Fields; is the system still like the barfine also covers the services of the girl or if not what is a normal LT fee these days! Will be back in Angeles in April and will report. Hopefully the standard is better than last time I was there 2 years ago.
IMO this is definitely not a slum since it has a toilet, water and electricity and the house is (relatively) solid built.Agreed, this is actually pretty common. I have relatives on Mindanao who are quite content in their completely wooden abodes. Big drums for water storage for flushing the toilet and washing yourself. Even in 30 c heat that water still doesn't get warm enough for my liking! Nothing like dumping a cold pail of water over your head first thing in the morning.
Two of my regulars showed me their apartment located at a 15 minute trike ride from Walking Street in an area that can best be described as a slum (although I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world).{S N I P}
I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?I would not classify that neighbourhood as a PI slum, but I do appreciate the point that you are making.
Sometimes the stupidity is not in the question{er} but in the responder.Good one DG. I was thinking much the same thing!
Since these young ladies live in very real poverty I wonder why they don't simply be honest and ask for cash to help out with plumbing or electricity? I know some requests are truthful but a lot may not be.
I think a lot of guys who make 20 times what these women make would be more than happy to help out if the request is genuine.
Radical Guy
02-24-15, 02:26
Agreed, this is actually pretty common. I have relatives on Mindanao who are quite content in their completely wooden abodes. Big drums for water storage for flushing the toilet and washing yourself. Even in 30 c heat that water still doesn't get warm enough for my liking! Nothing like dumping a cold pail of water over your head first thing in the morning.That might help me beat my lifelong coffee addiction. LOL.
Radical Guy
02-24-15, 02:28
I think a lot of guys who make 20 times what these women make would be more than happy to help out if the request is genuine.That's very big-hearted of you. I'll send all the needy girls your way. .
RG.
Member #4387
02-24-15, 02:55
Even in 30 c heat that water still doesn't get warm enough for my liking! Nothing like dumping a cold pail of water over your head first thing in the morning.Speaking of cold water. Yesterday me and a few friends chopped us through 40 cm thick ice before we jumped into the lake. A popular "sport" in my country (icebathing). The water temperature was 4 degrees. Thats refreshing.
Since these young ladies live in very real poverty I wonder why they don't simply be honest and ask for cash to help out with plumbing or electricity? I know some requests are truthful but a lot may not be. Just shy to ask, pride or whatever. Though some requests I've seen via trip reports don't seem to tally with that statement. Maybe they just rationalise things differently.
With the photo examples given though, I don't think that's real poverty. Yes people define poverty differently but I have seen a whole lot worse than those photos. And you need look no further than the side streets around Divisoria (Manila) to see people washing their plates, clothes, and even themselves on a shared tap / faucet in the street. Those photos. No disrespect to the poster. Is more on the low income, basic facilities kind of scale in my mind.
I think a lot of guys who make 20 times what these women make would be more than happy to help out if the request is genuine.Indeed, and I'm sure many do help with the full knowledge that they are one of several doing so! And others blissfully ignorant, or like to pretend they're the only one!
Two of my regulars showed me their apartment located at a 15 minute trike ride from Walking Street in an area that can best be described as a slum (although I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world).
Picture no. 1 (which is the last one of the 5 below) shows the entrance to the house they share with a family with 3 children.
Picture 2, 3 and 4 show their apartment that's only a part of the total house (about 1/3 I think).
When you come in there's a small 'kitchen' but it only has cold running water; there's no gas for cooking. You can see a part of the sink in picture 2.
In picture 3 you see the living room, only 9 square meters at the most!
Picture 4 shows the view from the living room at the kitchen and the toilet (the door on the right). No shower, only a toilet.
Picture 5 shows their street.
Can you imagine they are living in this small apartment together with 2 kids? They have almost zero possessions. I saw maybe 6 carton boxes with all their belongings. They sleep on the air matrass you see in the pictures. No bed, no chairs, no television, no aircon, nothing.
The rent is 2000 PhP / month (excluding water and electricity).
They showed me around their neighbourhood and I met some of their friends. It's amazing how relaxed and friendly these people are. Lots of children all around. And mosquitos, LOL.
This neighbourhood is home to a lot of trike drivers by the way. I can understand better now why they want 100 PhP for a ride.
I have never been a cheap charlie, I think I even spoil the girls a little bit and after seeing this I will continue doing that.
I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?Thank you for your report. Even though there are even worst living conditions as duly noted by our scholars and non-scholars or by someone else's definition of 'slum'. Slum = substandard housing. It does not matter whether there is a toilet or cement walls. The only question is what is standard? Substandard is substandard. Some would argue that standard is the average housing! It is a shame that this may be the standard for the Philippines.
The truth is they live in substandard housing that we would not live in. In case there is someone here who would, I will gladly pay for 12 months of rent for you.
Yes, it doesn't take much to improve someone's abole here. Quite a few do not have a hook up for running water. Hook up cost is P5000-7000.
BTW scholars, the comment referred to the lack of warm or hot water, not how cold the water is.
The sad truth is most people's lives here can truly be enhanced at the cost one's weekly drinking and cizgarette budget!
It's been a while since I was in Fields; is the system still like the barfine also covers the services of the girl or if not what is a normal LT fee these days! Will be back in Angeles in April and will report. Hopefully the standard is better than last time I was there 2 years ago.The system is still the same: the barfine also covers the services of the girl. I had a girl from the Monsoon bar a few days ago for 2500 LT (+ 300 tip).
I'm afraid the standard has gone down although I admit I have only been in half a dozen bars so far.
Thank you for your report. Even though there are even worst living conditions as duly noted by our scholars and non-scholars or by someone else's definition of 'slum'. Slum = substandard housing. It does not matter whether there is a toilet or cement walls. The only question is what is standard? Substandard is substandard. Some would argue that standard is the average housing! It is a shame that this may be the standard for the Philippines.
The truth is they live in substandard housing that we would not live in. In case there is someone here who would, I will gladly pay for 12 months of rent for you.
Yes, it doesn't take much to improve someone's abole here. Quite a few do not have a hook up for running water. Hook up cost is P5000-7000.
BTW scholars, the comment referred to the lack of warm or hot water, not how cold the water is.
The sad truth is most people's lives here can truly be enhanced at the cost one's weekly drinking and cizgarette budget!I think you hit the nail on the head here Dg8787: they live in substandard housing that we would not live in. Whether this housing meets the definition of a real slum or not is not really important. And as I already said in my post, I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world.
To give some more background information: these girls do not work in a bar. They are FLs who go to places like High Society and occasionally (if the need is high) they are SWs in Walking Street. One of them has a job as a room maid, but not full time. She has two kids but no boyfriend or husband.
The other one doesn't have a job. Her boyfriend had a job but he died unexpectedly last year leaving her behind with a little kid. When she's with me I can sense that her thoughts go out to him. She cannot completely 'give' herself to me and I can fully understand that.
Mr Enternational
02-24-15, 06:28
IMO this is definitely not a slum since it has a toilet, water and electricity and the house is (relatively) solid built.And besides that, it is what they know and are used to. You can't compare their way of life with yours. At the begining of the month I took my dad to the Dominican Republic and we went to one of my girlfriend's house. It was the usual concrete walls, concrete floor, sheer curtains hanging where doors would normally go deal. My dad said that is exactly how all the houses in the USA were in the 1950's and before, even down to the type of furniture. It is what it is. And if my ancestors were put on a boat headed to Brazil or DR instead of the USA then I would have been born in and used to the same conditions that they are. You can't bring everyone in the world up to your standard of living. I myself would like to be at Bill Gates' standard of living.
As far as being bored, I would be bored today in the houses that I have now if I didn't get up and do something and socialize everyday. They do plenty of socializing and many people go to work. They don't just wake up and look at the walls everyday. They have routines like everyone else in the world. Just because you can't picture your current routine within the confines of their world does not mean that it is boring by any means.
Streetlooker
02-24-15, 06:50
I was wondering about this post in the Opinions thread. This poster must not have met many pinays from online; or many of anyone for that matter. And what is up with people wanting to know what you think when you do finally meet them? I should start saying well you looked much better in your pictures than you do in real life.
.My believe is that all the photos I see on line are photo shopped in some way and I don; t take them serious has to what the person looks like. I just know I have seen a lot of filipinas in person 1st that I thought were drop dead gorgeous but see pics of them and they are not. Angles matter and in pics you don; t get them. I even seen some really ugly girls pics and when I met in person they looked better Just my experiance.
And besides that, it is what they know and are used to. You can't compare their way of life with yours. At the begining of the month I took my dad to the Dominican Republic and we went to one of my girlfriend's house. It was the usual concrete walls, concrete floor, sheer curtains hanging where doors would normally go deal. My dad said that is exactly how all the houses in the USA were in the 1950's and before, even down to the type of furniture. It is what it is. And if my ancestors were put on a boat headed to Brazil or DR instead of the USA then I would have been born in and used to the same conditions that they are. You can't bring everyone in the world up to your standard of living. I myself would like to be at Bill Gates' standard of living.Of course they are used to it. Just like you and me are used to our standard of living. And just like Bill Gates is used to his.
But that doesn't mean they don't look at other people's (better) standards of living. We all compare our standard with other people's standard. And a lot of us want to improve our standard. You do it yourself too! You would like to be at Bill Gates' standard of living.
As far as being bored, I would be bored today in the houses that I have now if I didn't get up and do something and socialize everyday. They do plenty of socializing and many people go to work. They don't just wake up and look at the walls everyday. They have routines like everyone else in the world. Just because you can't picture your current routine within the confines of their world does not mean that it is boring by any means.I was talking about WGs only, not about all the people in their neighbourhood. And I know these WGs are often bored because they TELL me they are bored. Of course they socialize. But you cannot socialize all day long and certainly not with other bored WGs.
BrainDrain
02-24-15, 07:35
I was in AC for 8 wonderful days & nights. I will post a detailed report soon. But I just want to let everyone know that I was introduced to a club Called Midnight Rodeo on Oak St at Raymond St, next to King's Head. They are opened everyday from 20:30-02:00.
Funman13.I too am a fan of this bar but I think you should warn the younger punters that the style of music is a little older. At 50 years old I feel really comfortable here. My BF from here two years ago was about P1200 and a really sweet girl. On January when I was there I think the BF is now P1400-P1500.
I like your point about if mutually agreed. About a year ago I was here and had ot rush back to my hotel for a teleconference. When I toldthe girl it was time ot leave, in a hurry as I was runninglate, she declined.
Then this year, I had paid the BF, the girl accepted and was happy to go then she decided she wasn't ready.
I will continue to go to this bar and BF girls, but they are perhaps a little less experienced than the main street bars.
BD.
I must say I've had a good 3 days here in AC. Definitely not enough time, but this was a side trip, so not too bad. Got in late Sunday night and went to a Pony tail, kinda dead at 11:30 Sunday night, They were asking 2000 for shortime. I was the only guy, girls were ok looking, actually some very nice. But I was asking for long time and wasn't getting any bites. Would you believe everyone was on thier period, which they tell me after I buy them a drink. Oh well, I have to pay to learn. Paid LD fees and went to eruption bar. Ended paying 3000 Barfine. It was more than I wanted to pay, but I knew I wanted to get a lady that night. Went into Eruptions and all the waitresses started massaging my back. One in particular was sexy looking, I bought her a drink. They was a dancer that I wanted, she came over and got a drink. Then tells me she is on her period, so I learn, Starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off, but the waitress checked and said she was, but I say why let me buy you a drink if you are on the rag? I guess they don't care. Anyway, I decided on the waitress. We went back to the room, We talked for a few minutes and then kissed a little and then too showers. Over all, it was a good 1st session. She stayed for a couple of hours, then left. She was nice, but I wouldn't get her again, too many other fish in the sea. She said she was 32. Ok for a 1st time.
I was in AC for 8 wonderful days & nights. I will post a detailed report soon. But I just want to let everyone know that I was introduced to a club Called Midnight Rodeo on Oak St at Raymond St, next to King's Head.
SNIP
The club also have bar girls who will drink with you and go back with you if mutually agreed. The only difference with other bars is these girls don't dance on stage. Most of the girls were very pretty and I was told the barfine is less than the normal rates (I did not ask). There are no mamasans and the girls will not come to you unless you ask. The drinks were also cheaper..
I like your point about if mutually agreed. About a year ago I was here and had ot rush back to my hotel for a teleconference. When I toldthe girl it was time ot leave, in a hurry as I was runninglate, she declined.
Then this year, I had paid the BF, the girl accepted and was happy to go then she decided she wasn't ready.
I will continue to go to this bar and BF girls, but they are perhaps a little less experienced than the main street bars.
BD.Sounds like a hostess bar, more or less. Pretty girls that might be available if you're lucky. Is that right?
I've been to Atlantis a couple of days ago, despite its bad reputation. I just wanted to see it once. Well, among the 200+ girls in there are indeed quite a lot of cuties but also many average looking girls. The percentage of cuties might be higher than in most other bars but not as high as I expected.
I sat with a PYT for a while but she wasn't the least interested in me. Not that it bothered me much as I didn't have the intention to BF a girl here.
What did bother me was that they are constantly harassing you to buy stuff. Snacks, tequila and god knows what else; I hardly paid attention to it and just waved them away. Really annoying.
Last night I went to Crazy House, Shipwrecked and Calypso.
Crazy House had a very average to below average line up. I considered only 2 girls as doable.
Shipwrecked was a little bit better: some cuties there, maybe 4 or 5, and a couple of doable girls.
Calypso: Now we're talking! By far the best line up I have seen this far. Quite a lot of good looking or even pretty girls, including some of the waitresses. The first bar where I've ordered more than one drink.
I sat with a cute 24 yo waitress who had given me some horny looks from the moment I came in. I didn't want to BF her so I asked for her number and she was happy to give it to me. Maybe she's not really that much into me but somehow I think she will give me a good time. It's just a hunch.
In Phils right now. Update on Swagman and 'bus' service.
Swaggy Receptionist said Chinese bought Swagman biz 2/3 yrs ago. Chinaman cutting costs. So van this point on. Only 8 persons to a van and when I was buying my ticket P600 only two other guys travelling. So you can see, unlikely bus will return. Got to have the customers to pay for a full size bus.
Come to think of it, will check out nearby Southern Cross bus service too and report back, in due course. Your getting all this from the horses mouth, so to speak. (Employees at relevant biz).
Yellow taxis quote P2700,3000 from Airport. If your in Cebu catch direct Cebu Pacific air flight to Clark.
That's very big-hearted of you. I'll send all the needy girls your way. .
RG.Why would I give money to women I've never met?
In Phils right now. Update on Swagman and 'bus' service.
Swaggy Receptionist said Chinese bought Swagman biz 2/3 yrs ago. Chinaman cutting costs. So van this point on. Only 8 persons to a van and when I was buying my ticket P600 only two other guys travelling. So you can see, unlikely bus will return. Got to have the customers to pay for a full size bus.
Come to think of it, will check out nearby Southern Cross bus service too and report back, in due course. Your getting all this from the horses mouth, so to speak. (Employees at relevant biz).
Yellow taxis quote P2700,3000 from Airport. If your in Cebu catch direct Cebu Pacific air flight to Clark.Not sure if we are talking about the same shuttle, but I just canceled my shuttle from Devera hotel for 2700 and will take the 600 shuttle from a hotel a hotel a few days down from my hotel. I beleive it was called the Bison Hotel.
In Phils right now. Update on Swagman and 'bus' service.
Swaggy Receptionist said Chinese bought Swagman biz 2/3 yrs ago. Chinaman cutting costs. So van this point on. Only 8 persons to a van and when I was buying my ticket P600 only two other guys travelling. So you can see, unlikely bus will return. Got to have the customers to pay for a full size bus.
Come to think of it, will check out nearby Southern Cross bus service too and report back, in due course. Your getting all this from the horses mouth, so to speak. (Employees at relevant biz).
Yellow taxis quote P2700,3000 from Airport. If your in Cebu catch direct Cebu Pacific air flight to Clark.Sir I know you english not good. I excuse you. Chinaman is not good word to use. I know you not know that. Thank you for report.
Hey guys,
I heading to PI in 3 or 4 weeks time. Anyone got any news on Matrix Brawn. Is it still open, have they paid their electricity bill yet?
Also, does anyone have a recommendation for a similar alternative to Matrix Brawn (the handy onsite and overt services they provide)?
Last Q (promise) - last time I stayed up the Perimeter end of the strip, all the bars closed real early. Do any of the them stay open late these days?
Thanks so much.
I am planning to do my first visit to AC during Easter holidays. Since the religion of PI is Catholic Christian, would the Easter adversely effect availability of ladies for mongering?
Can anyone please suggest a good hotel in the range of $50 - $75 close to the area of action? I know that I should RTFF and I have started reading reports on this forum but any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks
Two of my regulars showed me their apartment located at a 15 minute trike ride from Walking Street in an area that can best be described as a slum (although I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world).
Picture no. 1 (which is the last one of the 5 below) shows the entrance to the house they share with a family with 3 children.
Picture 2, 3 and 4 show their apartment that's only a part of the total house (about 1/3 I think).
When you come in there's a small 'kitchen' but it only has cold running water; there's no gas for cooking. You can see a part of the sink in picture 2.
In picture 3 you see the living room, only 9 square meters at the most!
Picture 4 shows the view from the living room at the kitchen and the toilet (the door on the right). No shower, only a toilet.
Picture 5 shows their street.
Can you imagine they are living in this small apartment together with 2 kids? They have almost zero possessions. I saw maybe 6 carton boxes with all their belongings. They sleep on the air matrass you see in the pictures. No bed, no chairs, no television, no aircon, nothing.
The rent is 2000 PhP / month (excluding water and electricity).
They showed me around their neighbourhood and I met some of their friends. It's amazing how relaxed and friendly these people are. Lots of children all around. And mosquitos, LOL.
This neighbourhood is home to a lot of trike drivers by the way. I can understand better now why they want 100 PhP for a ride.
I have never been a cheap charlie, I think I even spoil the girls a little bit and after seeing this I will continue doing that.
I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?Nice write up w / pics, I'm w / you.
I've seen worse in Cebu, 10 minutes from Mango Square. It's a different world there and there is nothing these ladies should be ashamed of. The society is extremely interesting to the point of why buy a house? Why save money? There is little reason for many of these girls to think of a house or a bank account, life is so different there.
A couple of weeks ago I'm talking w / a favorite door girl at Hollywood, her name is Nash, a sexy little thing. I'm telling her to be smart w / your money and she is saying yeah but how? I said, don't give it away to unimportant people. She ask, are cousins important? I said NOOOOO! Your mother is important, your baby, but everyone else should not be asking you for money. She agreed but didn't know how to go about telling these cousins to get their own money. These ladies really need help in the form of money and life management.
The government gives them a piece of ground in the province. They have no financial responsibilities so why save? It's so different there. The next batch of province girls will deliver the money I guess in years to come, it is crazy crazy there.
For my last trip ending the 18th I had such a great time in AC and Subic. What a crazy world and sometimes it's only now that counts, our advice is useless in their lives.
Here's my Cebu girl's house in 2012, you can see her mom and siblings in one shot. I found her at Sisters on Mango, when I saw her I could not believe my eyes, she was a spinner like no other. She got out of the business soon after I left. We spent a few days together and one day we went to her house to get her swimsuit for the swimming pool at the Parklane Hotel. I met her mom and family and I gave her mom a hug. Their corrugated shack did not have a door. There was a TV in one out of ten shacks there, Cebu life. 1. Her front door is on the left. 2. The kitchen is over the wall. 3. Her ma and sibs. 4. The way in from the street. 5. We spent a lot of time at the Ayala Mall, she's wearing 5" heels in the pic w/ me.
Her neighborhood is a middle class neighborhood I am pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong. She lived there everyday of her life.
There are other filipinos living in dirt w / no shack. I've seen them and they are black as the dirt they live on. They have no privacy, they live on the side of the road, no TV there.
Thanks.
Nice write up w / pics, I'm w / you.
I've seen worse in Cebu, 10 minutes from Mango Square.
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Thanks for the support Socker. And for the story and pics. I have seen exactly the same kind of housing when I was in Cebu about 8 years ago when I picked up girls with the help of touts and taxi drivers. Your pics bring back memories.
A couple of weeks ago I'm talking w / a favorite door girl at Hollywood, her name is Nash, a sexy little thing. I'm telling her to be smart w / your money and she is saying yeah but how? I said, don't give it away to unimportant people. She ask, are cousins important? I said NOOOOO! Your mother is important, your baby, but everyone else should not be asking you for money. She agreed but didn't know how to go about telling these cousins to get their own money. These ladies really need help in the form of money and life management.I guess it's their culture. The family is number 1, 2 and 3. No matter what, you always help your family. You can convince a girl that she has to be smart(er) with her money but it's like you say: how is she going to convince certain family members that they should be self supporting?
Number 4 is their cell phone, number 5 is the dog, number 6 is us and number 7 is the girl herself. Or something like that. Like you say: it's crazy.
Nice write up w / pics, I'm w / you.
I've seen worse in Cebu, 10 minutes from Mango Square. It's a different world there and there is nothing these ladies should be ashamed of. The society is extremely interesting to the point of why buy a house? Why save money? There is little reason for many of these girls to think of a house or a bank account, life is so different there.
A couple of weeks ago I'm talking w / a favorite door girl at Hollywood, her name is Nash, a sexy little thing. I'm telling her to be smart w / your money and she is saying yeah but how? I said, don't give it away to unimportant people. She ask, are cousins important? I said NOOOOO! Your mother is important, your baby, but everyone else should not be asking you for money. She agreed but didn't know how to go about telling these cousins to get their own money. These ladies really need help in the form of money and life management.
The government gives them a piece of ground in the province. They have no financial responsibilities so why save? It's so different there. The next batch of province girls will deliver the money I guess in years to come, it is crazy crazy there.
For my last trip ending the 18th I had such a great time in AC and Subic. What a crazy world and sometimes it's only now that counts, our advice is useless in their lives.
Here's my Cebu girl's house in 2012, you can see her mom and siblings in one shot. I found her at Sisters on Mango, when I saw her I could not believe my eyes, she was a spinner like no other. She got out of the business soon after I left. We spent a few days together and one day we went to her house to get her swimsuit for the swimming pool at the Parklane Hotel. I met her mom and family and I gave her mom a hug. Their corrugated shack did not have a door. There was a TV in one out of ten shacks there, Cebu life. 1. Her front door is on the left. 2. The kitchen is over the wall. 3. Her ma and sibs. 4. The way in from the street. 5. We spent a lot of time at the Ayala Mall, she's wearing 5" heels in the pic w/ me.
Her neighborhood is a middle class neighborhood I am pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong. She lived there everyday of her life.
There are other filipinos living in dirt w / no shack. I've seen them and they are black as the dirt they live on. They have no privacy, they live on the side of the road, no TV there.
Thanks.I have been to a few homes like this and some in very poor areas with only dirt streets. If they have a few extra pesos the homes are decorated with rolled asphalt linoleum flooring and wallpapered with something like plastic shelf liner. It is amazing how well the homes are maintained, sweeped and cleaned. They take their shoes off upon entering most homes. They certainly make do with the little they have.
It is sickening to see the new low-income housing in the USA turned instantly into slums by the lack of care and cleanliness by the tenants. These slums have indoor plumbing, good construction and solid walls with doors. But they are slums in every definition.
Slums are created by the caliber of the residents not mostly by the type of construction. Most PI homes are poorly constructed and lack modern amenities but would not be called slums because the people maintain their homes and have a family structure with strong family values.
It is this strong family values that these BG do this kind of work to help the family survive. It is something that most of us will never be able to comprehend let alone understand.
I guess it's their culture. The family is number 1, 2 and 3. No matter what, you always help your family. You can convince a girl that she has to be smart(er) with her money but it's like you say: how is she going to convince certain family members that they should be self supporting?
Number 4 is their cell phone, number 5 is the dog, number 6 is us and number 7 is the girl herself. Or something like that. Like you say: it's crazy.Spot on, Mog and DG. The living conditions are shack dirt poor but most are not slums I. E. , messy garbage all around. The family values override everything else. There is no emphasis on saving for the future. I send 2000 P quite frequently to my gorgeous GF in Cebu who has four little sisters, an older brother who occassionally sends paltry amounts, a father who is ill and a mom who doesn't work either. The charity means a lot to her and I don't mind doing it. Their life is a hard one but somehow they remain happy. It is humbling.
I'm telling her to be smart w / your money and she is saying yeah but how? I said, don't give it away to unimportant people. She ask, are cousins important? I said NOOOOO! Your mother is important, your baby, but everyone else should not be asking you for money. She agreed but didn't know how to go about telling these cousins to get their own money. These ladies really need help in the form of money and life management.Even SWMBO, 12 years in Western countries, still can't manage her money. She asked for some useless piece of junk the other day, stupidly expensive electronic toy that her phone already provides, she knows we don't have money but because her friend said it was good, she wants one. Absolutely not.
Also bear in mind cousins to Filipinos are not just first cousins but even third and fourth cousins, even completely unrelated people. Everybody older is an aunt or uncle, again even if unrelated. Confuses the hell out of me even now when she introduces me to the latest cousin-who-is-not-actually-a-cousin.
I am planning to do my first visit to AC during Easter holidays. Since the religion of PI is Catholic Christian, would the Easter adversely effect availability of ladies for mongering?
Can anyone please suggest a good hotel in the range of $50 - $75 close to the area of action? I know that I should RTFF and I have started reading reports on this forum but any advice will be appreciated.
ThanksI like to stay at Orchid Inn Resort; book through agoda.com. I don't know about Easter but assume the bunnies will be hopping haha.
Not sure if we are talking about the same shuttle, but I just canceled my shuttle from Devera hotel for 2700 and will take the 600 shuttle from a hotel a hotel a few days down from my hotel. I beleive it was called the Bison Hotel.Actually the hotel was the Brass Knob. Next to the Bison something. Full size bus for $600 peso. Makes one stop on the way. I met a young lady who offered a massage, I took her back to the room for a quick massage of my Knob then I asked her to come with me to Manila.
. My plane didn't leave until the next morning. I figured I could have some company without trying too hard in Manila. I asked her to come with me. I told her I would send her back the next morning. She thought I would retunn to AC her. I explained no. After some coaxing, she agreed to come.
I told her she would have a nice time. Brilliant!! We had a ball. We played all night. Then shower, then play some more. She is 21. I will wake her in a few minutes so I can check out to return home to the States. It was a great trip to the phils. I will write more later. I know many here would say I gave her too much, but I took her shopping a little, spent $1200 which she was embarrassed to take.... i also gave her $4000 pesos... she would probably have been happy with a lot less. IT didn't hurt me much and I appreciated her accommodating me and she was a lot of fun .
OK so I am going out of my way to clarify something, and a guy pops up and says Chinaman is not a good word. Really? What a joke!
Southern Cross bus service. So I told you, in my previous report, the Chinese bought Swagman and how that affects the fly the bus service.
Went nearby and came across the owner / Manager of Southern Cross and he is not a Chinaman, so I won't get into trouble here, right? LOL.
Info is: SC still running their daily bus, not a Van, never a van. Once a day only though. Departs Manila 3. 30 pm. Return trip tickets bought at Brass Knob Perimeter Rd (end of Fields anyway).
I rode the newish Swaggy van, from Manila, no probs, nice air-con if you sit in row immediately behind driver. Controls just above your head, which you can adjust to suit, if you want. Maybe backrow a bit warm and cramped, don't know. Trip took 1. 45 hrs. Good driver, always same driver, in my experience.
Angeles, a serious shortage of guys, and serious excess of girls, and its still the High Season, Feb. "That's the way we like it".
Ponytails, near ABC, seems to be regularly reco'd here, and out of curiosity, checked it out. 30/40 girls on stage, 5 could get a spot in any Rugby team, quite clearly seriously obese. About the same number, that is 5 , very nice looking girls, the balance average. Gilrs are hard pressed to do the foot shuffle on stage. Guys numbers down, so I suppose girls earnings down. Seven guys in the place at the time. Reco'd yes, not over the top, but a little better than your average bar.
Anything else you would like me to check out? A census on the Chinese population perhaps?
I am planning to do my first visit to AC during Easter holidays. Since the religion of PI is Catholic Christian, would the Easter adversely effect availability of ladies for mongering?
Can anyone please suggest a good hotel in the range of $50 - $75 close to the area of action? I know that I should RTFF and I have started reading reports on this forum but any advice will be appreciated.
ThanksI have understood that quite a lot of girls go back to their family around Easter. So it's not really a good time to visit AC.
The Pacific Breeze is a good hotel, very close to the action but quietly located. And if you pay cash you get a 10% discount (including the restaurant).
I have understood that quite a lot of girls go back to their family around Easter. So it's not really a good time to visit AC.True, Easter is second most important after Christmas. But it isn't too bad, still lotsa girls around and fun to be had.
True, Easter is second most important after Christmas. But it isn't too bad, still lotsa girls around and fun to be had.Yes the majority of AC bargirls family is a 20+ hour bus / ferry ride away. There is such a surplus of inventory of girls that the fraction that have the wherewithal to make it home won't be missed especially by one who has never been there.
By all means go and don't let the idea of Easter hold you back. AC doesn't operate by any normal calendar or like a normal city. Its like a crude, poorly maintained hound dog Disneyland.
OK so I am going out of my way to clarify something, and a guy pops up and says Chinaman is not a good word. Really? What a joke!
Southern Cross bus service. So I told you, in my previous report, the Chinese bought Swagman and how that affects the fly the bus service.
Went nearby and came across the owner / Manager of Southern Cross and he is not a Chinaman, so I won't get into trouble here, right? LOL.
Info is: SC still running their daily bus, not a Van, never a van. Once a day only though. Departs Manila 3. 30 pm. Return trip tickets bought at Brass Knob Perimeter Rd (end of Fields anyway).
I rode the newish Swaggy van, from Manila, no probs, nice air-con if you sit in row immediately behind driver. Controls just above your head, which you can adjust to suit, if you want. Maybe backrow a bit warm and cramped, don't know. Trip took 1. 45 hrs. Good driver, always same driver, in my experience.
Angeles, a serious shortage of guys, and serious excess of girls, and its still the High Season, Feb. "That's the way we like it".
Ponytails, near ABC, seems to be regularly reco'd here, and out of curiosity, checked it out. 30/40 girls on stage, 5 could get a spot in any Rugby team, quite clearly seriously obese. About the same number, that is 5 , very nice looking girls, the balance average. Gilrs are hard pressed to do the foot shuffle on stage. Guys numbers down, so I suppose girls earnings down. Seven guys in the place at the time. Reco'd yes, not over the top, but a little better than your average bar.
Anything else you would like me to check out? A census on the Chinese population perhaps?Let me educate you a little or you can google search the word "Chinaman" yourself. Sincerely it was not a joke. The word became a derogatory word in the early 1900's in USA as the Chinese were abused and discriminated. Later on the Chineses fought back with a well thrown hatchet / meat cleaver to the heart. This I believe began the formation of the Chinese Tongs in America.
Thanks but I have no need for a population check on the Chinese. Maybe someone else here might.
In Phils right now. Update on Swagman and 'bus' service.
Swaggy Receptionist said Chinese bought Swagman biz 2/3 yrs ago. Chinaman cutting costs. So van this point on. Only 8 persons to a van and when I was buying my ticket P600 only two other guys travelling. So you can see, unlikely bus will return. Got to have the customers to pay for a full size bus.
Come to think of it, will check out nearby Southern Cross bus service too and report back, in due course.Those were the days not too long ago when they had a full sized bus (actually 3 of them). The aircon was cranked up high and the foxy attendant would serve you the ice cold beer of your choice!
Dg8787: There is no reason to nitpick because same same as Dutchman, Englishman, Frenchman, etc. Di ba!?
Those were the days not too long ago when they had a full sized bus (actually 3 of them). The aircon was cranked up high and the foxy attendant would serve you the ice cold beer of your choice!
Dg8787: There is no reason to nitpick because same same as Dutchman, Englishman, Frenchman, etc. Di ba!?It is not the same same. Please take the time to get it right before you comment. Just search: Chinaman racial slur.
Rubio Tonto
02-27-15, 12:37
Those were the days not too long ago when they had a full sized bus (actually 3 of them). The aircon was cranked up high and the foxy attendant would serve you the ice cold beer of your choice!
Dg8787: There is no reason to nitpick because same same as Dutchman, Englishman, Frenchman, etc. Di ba!?The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you do not...also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
Anyone got any news on Matrix Brawn.Matrix has been closed and deserted for a few months now.
Best alternative would be Rio / Nifty or whatever they're called now, down behind Garfield's. There are also still a couple blowjob places on Santos but they're pretty hopeless these days.
Matrix has been closed and deserted for a few months now.Sh*t, I've loved the action in the bar. Because of a raid? Or simply business reasons?
Another attraction in AC gone.
Two days ago I had my third 'WeChat girl'. It was not so easy to convince this one, a 21 yo unemployed single mom, to come to my hotel. It took me five days and three chat sessions to make an appointment with her for a lunch meeting in SM Mall. I try to get them to my hotel right away but she declined and wanted to meet me somewhere else first. She looked rather cute in her pictures so I gave in.
Now she was indeed cute in real life. Her face was a 7.5. But she was also quite chubby, even a little bit fat. Something that wasn't clear in her pictures. Damn, I should ask them for full body pictures!
Nevertheless she was a very nice girl. Witty, intelligent, sweet and not shy. We had a 'click' right away. But when we had finished lunch she still wasn't sure if she wanted to come with me. I didn't put much pressure on her and gave her time to make a decision. I even said that I would leave everything up to her and that sex was not compulsory.
After about 15 minutes she had finally made up her mind and said yes.
Once in my room she was quite nervous and she took a beer from the fridge to calm down. I waited till she was ready and didn't approach her. We chatted a little bit and when she had almost finished her beer she suddenly stood up, came over to me and kissed me on the mouth. Then she unbuttoned my pants, took my dick out and started to blow me. And she was good, really good. To my surprise she even deep throated me. Was this really her first time with a foreigner? I mean, I don't want to brag but I really have a big dick (check the picture gallery) and she took it like a pro without even blinking an eye.
Then she suddenly said: 'I want a deal. You pay me, okay?' I thought: 'Oh no, it's a set up. If I don't pay her some large amount she goes to the police to accuse me of r-ape or something like that'. Her sudden 180 degrees turn from a nervous 'first timer' to a deep throating 'porn star' had made ME a little bit nervous, LOL!
I said: 'of course I pay you'. Later on, after our session, she told me that until that moment it wasn't clear to her if I would pay her. I thought I had made that clear already in our chat sessions but apparently 'I will reward you' had been too vague for her.
She didn't threaten me with the police (phew) and we both took a shower, laid down on the bed and it soon became clear she was a tiger. Man this girl was horny, unbelievable! She blew me and deepthroated me for a long time, got soaking wet from DATY, moaning loudly, loved to be banged real fast and hard and even asked me to slap her big behind. This girl liked it a bit rough! Not really my thing but I enjoyed it nevertheless and after about half an hour I shot a big load in her mouth.
I gave her 1000 plus 200 for the trike (she lives quite far from Fields) and off she went. Sometimes it really is more fun in the Philippines.
Tomorrow I have an appointment with a KTV girl. She's used to Korean customers so I'm not so sure about her. Maybe I will cancel.
The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you do not...also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.Too much political correctness got drilled into you. Yes, chinaman is a derogatory term, but I doubt those guys were American. Chinese / Korean / Japanese / ect. Are acceptable terms as is oriental if you are not sure of the nationality.
ThatGuy865
02-27-15, 22:40
Matrix has been closed and deserted for a few months now.
Best alternative would be Rio / Nifty or whatever they're called now, down behind Garfield's. There are also still a couple blowjob places on Santos but they're pretty hopeless these days.Due to raids, on the BJ bars in particular, the talent in looks is just about all is down to about 3's and maybe a 4 on a good day. And most only have 4 to 5 girls.
BJ bars in AC basically have become a thing of the past.
Due to raids, on the BJ bars in particular, the talent in looks is just about all is down to about 3's and maybe a 4 on a good day. And most only have 4 to 5 girls.
BJ bars in AC basically have become a thing of the past.Sorry but I disagree. Of course you won't find stunners in BJ bars but the bar at the corner of A Santos and Vian Street has quite a few good looking girls (7's). I'm passing that bar several times a day because it's close to my hotel and each time again I think 'I should try one of those girls' but until now I always have other girls 'lining up' LOL.
And the bar at the end of Raymond Street has at least one good looking girl, although she's on the skinny side. Her name is Jane, she has tattoos (stars) in her neck. I 'did' her last week, she's a nice girl.
And there are maybe one or two other doable girls in that bar. For the rest it's like you say: 3's and 4's.
Those were the days not too long ago when they had a full sized bus (actually 3 of them). The aircon was cranked up high and the foxy attendant would serve you the ice cold beer of your choice!
Dg8787: There is no reason to nitpick because same same as Dutchman, Englishman, Frenchman, etc. Di ba!?Yeh, here I was trying to clarify for guys current bus situation, Angeles-Manila, and he starts on about that. Suppose he needed to impress re his in-depth knowledge, all things Chinese, when we are trying to get to the girls, viz, by a bus or whatever, LOL.
Stardust, Fields, opposite Kokomo's. Guys, a must visit in my humble, uneducated opinion. 8 pm, 9 pm, 10 pm, etc they have special dancers on for about 20 minutes. Five pretty girls, scantily dressed, dancing sexy style, high energy etc. Doubt if bar finable, but they are best fast action dancers I have seen in Phils for a long time. Give any USA etc women a shake for their money. Tops. Surprised if any one would be disappointed. Working on one for a barfine, LOL. Sometimes these kinds of shows do not last, so if your in Angeles, arrive above times and you will see exciting stuff. Barfinable bikini girls there too, average in my opinion.
Can the same be said of all the short time bars too?
I don't like to take a girl for the whole night so it seems crazy that I should have to pay for one!
Due to raids, on the BJ bars in particular, the talent in looks is just about all is down to about 3's and maybe a 4 on a good day. And most only have 4 to 5 girls.
BJ bars in AC basically have become a thing of the past.
In the past 2 years coming I have heard of the Clarkton Hotel restaurant, finally had dinner there Thursday night. Great menu and they have a large outstanding buffet line of food. Extensive menu you can order from. The place is clean and nice with a large non-smoking area. Also you can dine or drink poolside. I give it a thumbs up and it is on the 8 peso Jeepney line.
ThatGuy865
02-28-15, 14:03
Can the same be said of all the short time bars too?
I don't like to take a girl for the whole night so it seems crazy that I should have to pay for one!More and more girls are only doing ST. Many of the perimeter bars are ST. But most bars do not have two tier rate. Its one rate. The same price whether they stay ST or LT.
The Santos and Raymond St bars are your true ST bars with ST rates. Raymond St probably has the most girls. A BM says he pulls some decent girls there. I'd say its hit or miss. These bars are small and girls come and go.
Llantarnam
02-28-15, 14:58
Too much political correctness got drilled into you. Yes, chinaman is a derogatory term,Never quite understood how this worked.
I support the English cricket team and I have traveled around the world supporting them. If we play Australia we call them the Aussies and nobody bats an eyelid. If we play the West Indies we call them the Windies, and again nobody cares. If we play Pakistan and anybody mentions P*ki*s all hell breaks loose. I am English and have no problem anyone calling me an Englishman. Why should there be an issue with calling someone from China a Chinaman. If he's not from China then I could understand it not being appropriate.
Getting back to more important things, I arrive in 2 weeks time, and my cock is already beginning to twitch in anticipation.
Yeh, here I was trying to clarify for guys current bus situation, Angeles-Manila, and he starts on about that. Suppose he needed to impress re his in-depth knowledge, all things Chinese, when we are trying to get to the girls, viz, by a bus or whatever, LOL.
Stardust, Fields, opposite Kokomo's. Guys, a must visit in my humble, uneducated opinion. 8 pm, 9 pm, 10 pm, etc they have special dancers on for about 20 minutes. Five pretty girls, scantily dressed, dancing sexy style, high energy etc. Doubt if bar finable, but they are best fast action dancers I have seen in Phils for a long time. Give any USA etc women a shake for their money. Tops. Surprised if any one would be disappointed. Working on one for a barfine, LOL. Sometimes these kinds of shows do not last, so if your in Angeles, arrive above times and you will see exciting stuff. Barfinable bikini girls there too, average in my opinion.Sxxxx,
I want to clarify this for you.
I am in AC.
I am Chinese.
I am now doing this to impress anyone. I am trying save anyone from some problems by making an innocent comment.
I have told you it a bad word.
You call me that name to my face and I will knock you on your ass.
I have asked you to search that and find out.
The only question left is if you are man enough to admit you may be possibly wrong in this?
Sxxxx,
I want to clarify this for you.
I am in AC.
I am Chinese.
I am now doing this to impress anyone. I am trying save anyone from some problems by making an innocent comment.
I have told you it a bad word.
You call me that name to my face and I will knock you on your ass.
I have asked you to search that and find out.
The only question left is if you are man enough to admit you may be possibly wrong in this?Sorry, I just don't get it. I am from America. If someone calls me Americaman I don't get all bent out of shape. That's where I'm from.
More and more girls are only doing ST. Many of the perimeter bars are ST. But most bars do not have two tier rate. Its one rate. The same price whether they stay ST or LT.
The Santos and Raymond St bars are your true ST bars with ST rates. Raymond St probably has the most girls. A BM says he pulls some decent girls there. I'd say its hit or miss. These bars are small and girls come
and go.I missed out on a sweet one the other night. I wanted long term, she could only give short term. I should have taken her, she was a shortie, but a 9,10. I regret not taking her. I did get a good replacement, but the 1st was great.
Rubio Tonto
02-28-15, 20:19
Too much political correctness got drilled into you. Yes, chinaman is a derogatory term, but I doubt those guys were American. Chinese / Korean / Japanese / ect. Are acceptable terms as is oriental if you are not sure of the nationality.Whoosh! LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNGkHK8Umew
Sorry, I just don't get it. I am from America. If someone calls me Americaman I don't get all bent out of shape. That's where I'm from.
Americanman, lol,
The chinese dude doesn't like being called a Chinaman, lots of Chinese people don't like it so that's enough of a reason.
Frenchman German, Englishman, they don; t have the same innoculous sound.
Why question a chinese bro?
The Chinese are an awesome race, (not to even mention chinese pussy), if they don't like the term then it's settled, don't freaking call them that.
Are. E. S. P. E. See. T.
Never quite understood how this worked.
I support the English cricket team and I have traveled around the world supporting them. If we play Australia we call them the Aussies and nobody bats an eyelid. If we play the West Indies we call them the Windies, and again nobody cares. If we play Pakistan and anybody mentions P*ki*s all hell breaks loose. I am English and have no problem anyone calling me an Englishman. Why should there be an issue with calling someone from China a Chinaman. If he's not from China then I could understand it not being appropriate.
Sorry, I just don't get it. I am from America. If someone calls me Americaman I don't get all bent out of shape. That's where I'm from.Geez guys, is it too much effort to look it up?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(term)
PS: copy - paste the whole link.
Sxxxx,
I want to clarify this for you.
I am in AC.
I am Chinese.
I am now doing this to impress anyone. I am trying save anyone from some problems by making an innocent comment.
I have told you it a bad word.
You call me that name to my face and I will knock you on your ass.
I have asked you to search that and find out.
The only question left is if you are man enough to admit you may be possibly wrong in this?Honestly DG its impossible to believe an American or Brit in 2015 with the wherewithal to be able to travel to SEA would not know that Chinaman is a derogatory term.
They are just pulling your chain and acting dumb and playing the common white cracker card of Hey racism is dead, if we can accept a similar descriptive term of us why can't "they" handle it? Its just words! Get over it already!
The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you do not...also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.How about "chinagirl"? Is that derogatory? Anybody who lets a word effect their day / mood is weak! Let the words bounce off of you and go get laid.
The whole world is racist and everybody hates everybody. Get over it!
"They're just words" - Frank Zappa.
I support the English cricket team and I have traveled around the world supporting them. If we play Australia we call them the Aussies and nobody bats an eyelid. If we play the West Indies we call them the Windies, and again nobody cares. I am English and have no problem anyone calling me an Englishman.No Aussie would ever call you an Englishman Llan.
You're a Pommie, (aka a pommie bastard) to all cricket-loving Aussies LOL.
StudBucket
03-01-15, 05:37
In the past 2 years coming I have heard of the Clarkton Hotel restaurant, finally had dinner there Thursday night. Great menu and they have a large outstanding buffet line of food. Extensive menu you can order from. The place is clean and nice with a large non-smoking area. Also you can dine or drink poolside. I give it a thumbs up and it is on the 8 peso Jeepney line.I would like to also highly recommend the main restaurnt at the ABC hotel for dinner. We always go while in AC. It has a great 6 or 7 course pre fixed meal with appetizers such as tuna poke, and many nice samplings. You can also eat as much as you eant. It is not a buffet, you simply lwt the waiter know which course or dish you want more of and they gladly bring it to you. I believe it is a great value considering the high quality. It runs around 16 dollars or so per person.
Too much political correctness got drilled into you. Yes, chinaman is a derogatory term, but I doubt those guys were American. Chinese / Korean / Japanese / ect. Are acceptable terms as is oriental if you are not sure of the nationality.Hate to break it to you, Kemosabe, but oriental is acceptable only when discussing carpets. So said Edward Said. Who? Exactly. Most of the Asians who get bent out of shape are Asian Americans, a group keen to appropriate other groups' slight perception skills and grievances. Real Asians use derogatory terms for each other so casually that "Chinaman" and "Oriental" merely register a 1.5 to 2.0 on the outrage Richter scale.
WestCoast1
03-01-15, 08:08
Hate to break it to you, Kemosabe, but oriental is acceptable only when discussing carpets. So said Edward Said. Who? Exactly. Most of the Asians who get bent out of shape are Asian Americans, a group keen to appropriate other groups' slight perception skills and grievances. Real Asians use derogatory terms for each other so casually that "Chinaman" and "Oriental" merely register a 1.5 to 2.0 on the outrage Richter scale.Interesting how the individuals in the majority group will often be more offended by racial (or sexual) slurs than the minority group.
Screaming Beaver
03-01-15, 08:20
How about "chinagirl"? Is that derogatory? Anybody who lets a word effect their day / mood is weak! Let the words bounce off of you and go get laid.
The whole world is racist and everybody hates everybody. Get over it!
"They're just words" - Frank Zappa.I agree. I also see nothing wrong in referring to a local as a flip. They seem to enjoy it. Who made the decision after all those years that by calling a flip a flip is now some kind of racial slur.
Llantarnam
03-01-15, 12:54
No Aussie would ever call you an Englishman Llan.
You're a Pommie, (aka a pommie bastard) to all cricket-loving Aussies LOL.I'm a pommie, you're a convict. Life moves on and nobody gets excited.
I've got a friend from Scotland who I've known for over 20 years. No idea what his first name is, everyone calls him Jock. For some reason certain groups of people are very sensitive and take offense at the slightest perceived slur.
Is Raymond the street that runs off Fields down to Orchid Inn?
So those bars down Santos and Raymond are still open then.
More and more girls are only doing ST. Many of the perimeter bars are ST. But most bars do not have two tier rate. Its one rate. The same price whether they stay ST or LT.
The Santos and Raymond St bars are your true ST bars with ST rates. Raymond St probably has the most girls. A BM says he pulls some decent girls there. I'd say its hit or miss. These bars are small and girls come and go.
Geez guys, is it too much effort to look it up?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(term)
PS: copy - paste the whole link.This is a better explanation of what a Chinaman is:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/310734.html
I was walking towards walking street one afternoon and I went down one of the side streets leading up to Walking Street. Not sure what you called these massage parlors, they were just an open storefront with a a bunch of ladies sitting inside. The ladies went from 4-5, there was a young one, I might have considered, but didn't. There was one lady who could have been a 8, older but very pretty and a nice body in clothes I they all talked sexy nasty talk to me. I sat down and one lady started massaging my dick, she never stopped. I requested a water when offered a drink. The lady who was massaging my dick. she was not someone I would consider, but she had her hands inside my shorts and it felt good, I sat there for about 10- 15 minutes... she said she would suck my dick and the good looking one would sit on my face for 800 a piece... The good looking one was a consideration, but she didn't really make much moves except she said her pussy tasted like apples. Finally, I paid for my drink and said maybe another time and I left. What was this place?
Although I might meet a FL I have been chatting with. She is playing hard to get, says she wants to meet me, but I told her I'm here for fun and sex and she can't get any money without it. Pm me.
Sent a note to the FL, told her I didn't want to meet her. Might have been a setup, I don't know, but since she wasn't talking about giving up any pussy, I didn't want to meet her. She never responded anymore. Too many girls willing to have fun for me to be wasting time.
Member #4566
03-02-15, 00:29
The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you do not...also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.Colin Powell in 1996 had to apologize for using the term Chinamen. Jap is another term that is verboten yet Brit is ok. Calling a Jew anything can be considered anti-Semitic. Instead of saying he's a Jew you say he's Jewish. Homosexuals have their own protocol. Only a homosexual can distinguish between bisexual and homosexual. To me it is all the same.
Member #4566
03-02-15, 00:38
oriental is acceptable only when discussing carpets. What about Mindoro Oriental or Negros Oriental?
I was walking towards walking street one afternoon and I went down one of the side streets leading up to Walking Street. Not sure what you called these massage parlors, they were just an open storefront with a a bunch of ladies sitting inside. The ladies went from 4-5, there was a young one, I might have considered, but didn't. There was one lady who could have been a 8, older but very pretty and a nice body in clothes I they all talked sexy nasty talk to me. I sat down and one lady started massaging my dick, she never stopped. I requested a water when offered a drink. The lady who was massaging my dick. she was not someone I would consider, but she had her hands inside my shorts and it felt good, I sat there for about 10- 15 minutes... she said she would suck my dick and the good looking one would sit on my face for 800 a piece... The good looking one was a consideration, but she didn't really make much moves except she said her pussy tasted like apples. Finally, I paid for my drink and said maybe another time and I left. What was this place?I think you were in one of the ST bars in A Santos Street.
Only a homosexual can distinguish between bisexual and homosexual. To me it is all the same.Really? I feel sorry for you.
BrainDrain
03-02-15, 06:37
The ladies went from 4-5, there was a young one, I might have considered, but didn't. There was one lady who could have been a 8, older but very pretty and a nice body in clothes I they all talked sexy nasty talk to me. I sat down and one lady started massaging my dick, she never stopped. I requested a water when offered a drink. The lady who was massaging my dick. she was not someone I would consider, but she had her hands inside my shorts and it felt good, I sat there for about 10- 15 minutes... she said she would suck my dick and the good looking one would sit on my face for 800 a piece...The ladies there will give you the best oral sex you have ever had in your life. They are oral specialists. Close your eyes and sit back. They will suck you dry for the P800.
When you are back home, do that calculation. "I could have had the best blowjob of my life in AC for $. ".
When I'm in AC I always make at least one afternoon visit.
BD.
Is Raymond the street that runs off Fields down to Orchid Inn?Correct. ST bars are adjacent to the Orchid Inn. Just look for Phillies Sports bar when walking Fields as a reference point.
The ladies there will give you the best oral sex you have ever had in your life. They are oral specialists. Close your eyes and sit back. They will suck you dry for the P800.
When you are back home, do that calculation. "I could have had the best blowjob of my life in AC for $. ".
When I'm in AC I always make at least one afternoon visit.
BD.Hmmm, really? They suck your cum too? I must say, I only had 2 full days in AC.. I feel I really cheated myself. I'm seriously contemplating a return visit with the next 90 days, just so I can have 5 days on the ground there.... I feel a little sick, traveling so far for pussy galore, but we only live once, yes? I had one girl, she wasn't a 9 or a 10, more like a 7, but she was the best sex I've every had in my life... pure GFE, I didn't know what it(GFE) meant until this girl.... At one point I said to her, lets take a break, her reply,' there are no breaks' and continued to bang me like there was no tomorrow. She was totally into it and very awesome I want to have her again, but if I can find one or 2 more like her, it would be great. I met her on my 1st day, she was number 3 of 3 for that day... I had her again the next night for LT We went from 8pm to about 4 am.. all for 2000 and I gave her a 400 tip. I told her if she return at 8am, until 12pm I would give her 1000, she never returned. I left town and took a little tart with me to Manila to keep me company until my plane left the next morning at 5 AM... She was a good GFE, I just want one more time on the Ground in AC, then I may settle down.
The ladies there will give you the best oral sex you have ever had in your life. They are oral specialists. Close your eyes and sit back. They will suck you dry for the P800.
When you are back home, do that calculation. "I could have had the best blowjob of my life in AC for $. ".
When I'm in AC I always make at least one afternoon visit.
BD.
Hmmm, really? They suck your cum too? Where exactly is this place BrainDrain? I thought sex on the premises was not possible anymore since the raids.
Where exactly is this place BrainDrain? I thought sex on the premises was not possible anymore since the raids.They told me there was a place for 200 pesos nearby or my room.
Master Monger
03-02-15, 14:04
Looser and lazier girls this trip. Had a few good ones but last few days I switched up to free girls from the mall and around Angeles and they were good. Reminds me of China, when the prices go up the girls get lazy cause they don't need the money. Strangely I found it harder to find hot girls on fields as well. Not like before. Might be they are all just old now. VariAsia in ABC has raised their price from 500 - 700 for all you can eat. Inflation like this is a bad sign. Fuckflation. Anyways I think I will try Cebu next time. The girls in AC are kinda broken and have flaws now. Not all of them, I had a few good ones from Crystal Palace for 500ST but a lot of them have problems. It feels like they are the be squad now. Some have bad hands, bad teeth, loose, bad feet, scars, saggy tits, stretch marks, and I even threw one out for having a smelly pussy. Also a lot of girls tried to skip the blow job or complained about time (WTF)! Crystal Palace, Love and Music Bar, Club Asia, and had a nice one from Shooters (Archielyn) you won't be disappointed. Why she is working at Shooters I have no idea. There are some diamonds in the rough, try to stick with 18-19 year old And no babies. Girls from Samar are mostly GFE!
Good Luck and Happy Mongering.
MM.
Looser and lazier girls this trip. Had a few good ones but last few days I switched up to free girls from the mall and around Angeles and they were good. Reminds me of China, when the prices go up the girls get lazy cause they don't need the money. Strangely I found it harder to find hot girls on fields as well. Not like before. Might be they are all just old now. VariAsia in ABC has raised their price from 500 - 700 for all you can eat. Inflation like this is a bad sign. Fuckflation. Anyways I think I will try Cebu next time. The girls in AC are kinda broken and have flaws now. Not all of them, I had a few good ones from Crystal Palace for 500ST but a lot of them have problems. It feels like they are the be squad now. Some have bad hands, bad teeth, loose, bad feet, scars, saggy tits, stretch marks, and I even threw one out for having a smelly pussy. Also a lot of girls tried to skip the blow job or complained about time (WTF)! Crystal Palace, Love and Music Bar, Club Asia, and had a nice one from Shooters (Archielyn) you won't be disappointed. Why she is working at Shooters I have no idea. There are some diamonds in the rough, try to stick with 18-19 year old And no babies. Girls from Samar are mostly GFE!
Good Luck and Happy Mongering.
MM. MM, Is it possible you have been spoiled? I was just there last week for the 1st time. Totally awesome. I was only there for 2 full days and parts of 2 other days. I had 5 different girls in that time, actually 7 because I repeated 2 of the girls. One was an extreme GFE, the othere wasn't far behind. The otheres were good. I need to return real soon.Your words might scare newbies... maybe that is the way to keep them all to yourslef ... hmmm
BrainDrain
03-02-15, 23:35
Hmmm, really? They suck your cum too? Absolutely that is what I have always received. I can't speak for the experience of others.
There is a grotesque spit bucket in the corner of the room, I don't look at what is in that bucket, I just prefer to think that I am the first customer for the day.
BD.
How about "chinagirl"? Is that derogatory? Anybody who lets a word effect their day / mood is weak! Let the words bounce off of you and go get laid.
The whole world is racist and everybody hates everybody. Get over it!
"They're just words" - Frank Zappa.And you think Filipinas ask stupid questions! Take your breakfast sir.
I agree. I also see nothing wrong in referring to a local as a flip. They seem to enjoy it. Who made the decision after all those years that by calling a flip a flip is now some kind of racial slur.Beaver. I imagine if you went around calling every English speaking girl you meet by the name of Beaver, there might be some that get offended.
I imagine local Filipinos are understanding and gracious enough to realize that you don't know any better so as usual they mutter something to that effect. As to who decided that was a racial slur first, I don't know. I do know that growing up in the early 60's.
That certainly was and far worse was calling him a flipper.
Past week has been great with a few old friends and 3 new ones. Last night I had one of the massage girls hanging around Fields entrance for the second time come to my hotel room. Beautiful slim 5', 19 year old with very nice curves and Ccups. First time extras was just oral 69. Last night was the same but she confided that she was a virgin. I have to add that before her I had a massage from her friend who had told me the same thing about her. Anyway from going down on her I could see what a very tight little hole it was! Then she let me rub my dickhead on the outside and I tried to just push the head in half an inch but she was in much pain. Then she offer me her cherry for 50 k but first she would ask her mother, yes her real mother if it is ok. She is doing this because the family needs money. I imagine for family medical reasons.
Anyway the question is not whether she is scamming me or whether she is a virgin or not. Or am I going to do this or not.
My question is do most guys like to do a cherry girl? And why?
I have taken a few girls virginity in the phils, but I got them from dating sites so payment wasn't an issue. What was an issue from 1 girl, a real province girl who lived in a hut with mud floors and no running water (I went there) was her pussy was so tight it actually tore the skin half way up my shaft and put me out of commission for a few days afterwards. Luckily, it healed before I went home to the regular who would have asked some awkward questions.
I recently posted pics of her, when she came to see me for the 2nd time. This time her hymen was truely broken and the few other foreigners since me has helped!But man that hymen was made of sheet metal.
Whoever it was of you guys who have had her since, you can thank me for doing the hard work!
That experience has forever turned me off doing virgins. I prefer slightly used if possible, but hey when horny, anything on the slim side from the ages 18-30 pretty much will do.
And you think Filipinas ask stupid questions! Take your breakfast sir.
Relax!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8IXx4tsus
Relax!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8IXx4tsusRelax? Haha. I am relaxed dude. Been banging great pussy all week. Take your your dinner sir!
Past week has been great with a few old friends and 3 new ones. Last night I had one of the massage girls hanging around Fields entrance for the second time come to my hotel room. Beautiful slim 5', 19 year old with very nice curves and Ccups. First time extras was just oral 69. Last night was the same but she confided that she was a virgin. I have to add that before her I had a massage from her friend who had told me the same thing about her. Anyway from going down on her I could see what a very tight little hole it was! Then she let me rub my dickhead on the outside and I tried to just push the head in half an inch but she was in much pain. Then she offer me her cherry for 50 k but first she would ask her mother, yes her real mother if it is ok. She is doing this because the family needs money. I imagine for family medical reasons.
Anyway the question is not whether she is scamming me or whether she is a virgin or not. Or am I going to do this or not.
My question is do most guys like to do a cherry girl? And why?I can't speak for most guys but I'd rather not have an inexperienced cherry girl. If she is a virgin to western schlongs it is ok tho. Oh and preferably one with a nice pair of boobs.
Capt Munch
03-03-15, 16:03
I can't speak for most guys but I'd rather not have an inexperienced cherry girl. If she is a virgin to western schlongs it is ok tho. Oh and preferably one with a nice pair of boobs.It was interesting getting a few non-pros lately that have had only 1 or 2 "boom2 x" before. The original "boom2 x" were of course from the famous Filipino BF that did an almost immediate dash when they managed to get into their GF's panties for the very first time. They haul ass in the hopes of relieving their next GF of her virginity also. Their motto to the girls has to be "LOVE YOU LONG TIME" . . . . at least that is what these girls hear.
I think the Filipino boys must really be saying "LOVE YOU ONE TIME" .
The lucky girls are the ones not left with a reminder of their error. . . The less fortunate we can see working to support their child as a single mom.
One of the young ladies has become a regular visitor (poor girl needs pisos and some lessons.) But she seems to be enjoying the new experience of a foreigner and makes the most delightful moans. When I ask. . . She does says "masarap" with a nice smile on her face.
The lessons will continue.
Munch.
Past week has been great with a few old friends and 3 new ones. Last night I had one of the massage girls hanging around Fields entrance for the second time come to my hotel room. Beautiful slim 5', 19 year old with very nice curves and Ccups. First time extras was just oral 69. Last night was the same but she confided that she was a virgin. I have to add that before her I had a massage from her friend who had told me the same thing about her. Anyway from going down on her I could see what a very tight little hole it was! Then she let me rub my dickhead on the outside and I tried to just push the head in half an inch but she was in much pain. Then she offer me her cherry for 50 k but first she would ask her mother, yes her real mother if it is ok. She is doing this because the family needs money. I imagine for family medical reasons.
Anyway the question is not whether she is scamming me or whether she is a virgin or not. Or am I going to do this or not.
My question is do most guys like to do a cherry girl? And why?I had about 5 virgin girls over time in Phi. All from dating sites or intro by other friends. All province girls except one from Cebu introduced by her friend. This Cebu girl wanted to experience sex. None of the girls demanded money but I did help them with a good sum. Of course as I believe money is in their mind when they let westerner pop their cherry although they do not come out and say so. All of them I continued to see for a couple of years after. They were real sweethearts.
Few times I had barfined "Cherry" girls in AC as arm candy. Some turned out to be not real Cherry and would have sex with me. They said they pretend to be cherry because 1. It is an excuse to use just to make money of ladydrinks 2. No pressure from the bar to allow barfining. 3. Bars treat good looking cherry girls differently than other dancers. 4. Family thinks they are good girls although they work in the bar. Whatever the justification who am I to argue.
There were some real cherry girls who I barfined. Some will engage in sex without full insertion especially if they are little tipsy. One girl in AC wanted 20,000 pesos to pop her cherry. Before I could say NO she grabbed my phone and called her mother and asked me to talk to mother as well as her sisters. Conversation was mainly what my plans are etc. One of her sisters told me if I can support her for a few years paying 10000 pesos per month so that she could go back home and pursue her studies. This girl was real horny being only 18 years old just started working in the bar and hated it. She let me do everything except full insertion. I did keep her for a couple of days. But was not willing to support her.
There are plenty of cherry girls in the provinces. Their parents are very strict. But the girls seem to find a way if they like you. Yes, first time is painful for them. One girl had some kind of problem when she went home. The gynecologist told her sometimes it happens and gave her antibiotics.
If you happen to get cherry girls treat them nice and compensate them even if not demanded.
My question is do most guys like to do a cherry girl? And why?It's never really appealed to me. Give me one great session with one 20-25 yo broken in a little than three virgins any day. I suppose it's some kind of achievement to some - like running in fresh, untouched snow? - but I'd rather somebody who knew vaguely what they were doing and enjoyed it.
Would like to clarify, Stardust special dancers only perform on Wed to Sat, 8 , 9 , 10,11 pm and 12 midnight only.
1st night I wrote about before was the best night, what followed thereafter not so hot.
Last night I was the only customer in Stardust, a very big club, and empty. Business people tell me business is slow and blame Police Raids and Street crime, bad publicity.
Travel Agent told me today another bar raid near Bunny Burger, wherever that is.
Korean ownership of bars expanding at a fast rate. They are changing the bar culture to their own tastes, not to ours. Someone told me K's are interested in Angeles cause easiest place to get registered. Apparently local authorities are on their payroll.
Member #4566
03-05-15, 01:26
This is what I said.
Only a homosexual can distinguish between bisexual and homosexual. To me it is all the same.And Mr. Mogwai this is your reply.
Really? I feel sorry for you.I accept your expression of sorrow. Now please help me understand what I am missing. I have no first hand experience in being sodomized. To me a man who exclusively practices sodomy with another man is no different from a man who has sodomy with a man and also has some kind of sexual relationship with a woman. They are both homosexuals. Help me. This is certainly beyond my experience and understanding.
WestCoast1
03-05-15, 02:07
I accept your expression of sorrow. Now please help me understand what I am missing. I have no first hand experience in being sodomized. To me a man who exclusively practices sodomy with another man is no different from a man who has sodomy with a man and also has some kind of sexual relationship with a woman. They are both homosexuals. Help me. This is certainly beyond my experience and understanding.I will jump in, with a question: You are saying that if you, a heterosexual, are walking down the street, you will not be able to spot the bisexuals. You are saying that if I am a homosexual, that I will be able to spot the bisexuals on the street (whereas you cannot)? Seems loco. Did I miss something?
This is what I said.
And Mr. Mogwai this is your reply.
I accept your expression of sorrow. Now please help me understand what I am missing. I have no first hand experience in being sodomized. To me a man who exclusively practices sodomy with another man is no different from a man who has sodomy with a man and also has some kind of sexual relationship with a woman. They are both homosexuals. Help me. This is certainly beyond my experience and understanding.A homosexual person likes to have a sexual relation with a person of his or her own gender.
A bisexual person likes to have a sexual relation with a man or a woman.
It's not that difficult, is it? You don't have to be a homosexual to understand the difference. Let alone that you need to have first hand experience.
You are right that both are homosexuals. However the bisexual person is also heterosexual.
But I think the problem for you is that you cannot imagine that a man wants to have sex with another man. That's OK but it has nothing to do with being able to distinguish between bisexual and homosexual people.
LifeIsABeach
03-05-15, 07:20
I will jump in, with a question: You are saying that if you, a heterosexual, are walking down the street, you will not be able to spot the bisexuals. You are saying that if I am a homosexual, that I will be able to spot the bisexuals on the street (whereas you cannot)? Seems loco. Did I miss something?People are getting too much caught up into placing people into groups. Just do away with all these stereo types and if you feel like having sex with any gender, just do it. It's no one else's business. A few year back, my best friend was a lesbian. I had known her for years. I was a player and so was she. I would go to lesbian clubs and bars with her to check out the women. There were many beautiful women and every day, most people could not tell what their sexual orientation was. Also, me going with my friend to lesbian bars did not make me into something else other than who I am a, straight man. One night of doing the clubs with my lesbian friend, we went back to her apartment and as I lay on the bed, she jumped on me and we had sex all night long. Just to do something different once in a while, did not make my friend a bi-sexual. She was 100% lesbian. I had another encounter with another lesbian when I played sports and so did she and we all ended up at the same bar after the sports. Became friends and one afternoon she invited me to a picnic with her friends. Men and women started pairing off and after some drinking, we all went back a girl's apartment and everyone was having sex, me and this girl. Later that night, she tells me that she is a lesbian and wanted to see what it was like having sex with a man. She told me her first encounter with a boy at school was rough and she did not like having sex with men. She was a lesbian and will always be. This was all in the USA. So, just do what pleases you and on with it.
Member #4566
03-05-15, 08:26
I will jump in, with a question: You are saying that if you, a heterosexual, are walking down the street, you will not be able to spot the bisexuals. You are saying that if I am a homosexual, that I will be able to spot the bisexuals on the street (whereas you cannot)? Seems loco. Did I miss something?No, I am not saying that it is a matter of recognition by sight. Indeed, many of us have trouble recognizing the difference between a trannie and a female often to our chagrin. The point I was making in my original post was that the difference between a homosexual and a bisexual is specious to someone who is straight. (John Wayne Gacey vigorously denied that he was a homosexual and insisted that he was bisexual despite his having killed over 30 boys after he had sodomized them to death.) The distinction between a homosexual and a bisexual is only intelligible to someone who inhabits the domain known as the gay continuum.
No, I am not saying that it is a matter of recognition by sight. Indeed, many of us have trouble recognizing the difference between a trannie and a female often to our chagrin. The point I was making in my original post was that the difference between a homosexual and a bisexual is specious to someone who is straight. (John Wayne Gacey vigorously denied that he was a homosexual and insisted that he was bisexual despite his having killed over 30 boys after he had sodomized them to death.) The distinction between a homosexual and a bisexual is only intelligible to someone who inhabits the domain known as the gay continuum.Maybe it's me but I don't get it. I'm perfectly able to distinguish between a homosexual and a bisexual and I'm as straight as can be. OK, maybe I'm 1 or 2 percent homosexual, that's possible.
And of course that John Wayne Gacey (never heard of the guy) can be bisexual. It only means he is both heterosexual and homosexual.
I had a haircut this week. I was lucky, the gay barber did not give me a facial. Glad I escaped that one!
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