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Mogwai
03-05-15, 16:05
20 yo student from Mindanao, visiting her family here in Angeles. Contacted me around 1 PM and it was quite easy to convince her to come to my room. So easy actually that I thought she would not show up. But she did, around 4 PM, together with a friend. The friend was not very interesting so I was glad she didn't come with us to my room.

Once in my room I was not sure right away if she knew what I expected from her. She was quite nervous so I tried to relax her with some small talk and that seemed to work. She was hot so I suggested her to take a shower. Which she did right away so I knew that she knew if you know what I mean, LOL.

She came back wrapped in a towel but she still wore her panty and bra. But to my surprise she took them off right in front of me, revealing a little bit of her body already in the process, and without even asking to turn the lights down or off.
We laid down on the bed, kissed a little bit (light DFK) and she confessed that she had never done this before and that I was her second foreigner, after her Chinese ex boy friend.
She removed the towel and exposed a lovely body. Her face was a 7 at the most but her body was a 7.5. Very slightly chubby, a nicely shaped A-cup and a shaved pussy. And no kids so no stretch marks.

She was very sweet, liked to kiss and I felt that her pussy was getting wet already. I had a raging hard on and decided to skip the BJ. I went down to DATY her and that was very much to her liking. The usual moans and 'oh shits'.
After about 5 or 10 minutes she was very wet and I penetrated her. 'Oh it's so big!' so I did it slowly. Her pussy felt good; the right combination of tightness and smoothness. So I knew I wouldn't last long. I pumped her for about 5 minutes, missionary only, and finished on her belly. A bit too quick maybe but I was horny because last night I had a disappointing trio and I could not finish. But that's another story.

Her pussy was bleeding a little bit afterwards although I did not really 'hammer' her. But she didn't complain and was happy with the blue note I gave her. Nice girl.

Chop Sticks
03-05-15, 16:53
Frankly speaking, after living almost 10 years in SOA I also sleep on an air matress like this now, (same one in blue color) its very good for shagging actually.

I also have no kitchen, why would you need a kitchen if you can eat streetfood for a few bucks? Hot water, for what if the outside temperature is not low? A TV? To watch corperate and s**t ads all day long?

I am not poor, but after living in SOA for long time you will totally change your views about what you need for living.

This house is quiet nice and cheap actually.


Two of my regulars showed me their apartment located at a 15 minute trike ride from Walking Street in an area that can best be described as a slum (although I'm aware there are even worse areas in the PI or elsewhere in the world).

Picture no. 1 (which is the last one of the 5 below) shows the entrance to the house they share with a family with 3 children.

Picture 2, 3 and 4 show their apartment that's only a part of the total house (about 1/3 I think).

When you come in there's a small 'kitchen' but it only has cold running water; there's no gas for cooking. You can see a part of the sink in picture 2.

In picture 3 you see the living room, only 9 square meters at the most!

Picture 4 shows the view from the living room at the kitchen and the toilet (the door on the right). No shower, only a toilet.

Picture 5 shows their street.

Can you imagine they are living in this small apartment together with 2 kids? They have almost zero possessions. I saw maybe 6 carton boxes with all their belongings. They sleep on the air matrass you see in the pictures. No bed, no chairs, no television, no aircon, nothing.

The rent is 2000 PhP / month (excluding water and electricity).

They showed me around their neighbourhood and I met some of their friends. It's amazing how relaxed and friendly these people are. Lots of children all around. And mosquitos, LOL.

This neighbourhood is home to a lot of trike drivers by the way. I can understand better now why they want 100 PhP for a ride.

I have never been a cheap charlie, I think I even spoil the girls a little bit and after seeing this I will continue doing that.

I can also understand better now why they are always texting us with 'stupid' questions as mentioned below. Wouldn't we be bored in an apartment like this?

D Cups
03-05-15, 17:42
Frankly speaking, after living almost 10 years in SOA I also sleep on an air matress like this now, (same one in blue color) its very good for shagging actually.

I also have no kitchen, why would you need a kitchen if you can eat streetfood for a few bucks? Hot water, for what if the outside temperature is not low? A TV? To watch corperate and s**t ads all day long?

I am not poor, but after living in SOA for long time you will totally change your views about what you need for living.

This house is quiet nice and cheap actually.What's SOA? Streets of Asia?

Member #4566
03-05-15, 21:26
1 or 2 percent homosexual.1 or 2 percent homosexual is like being 1 or 2 percent pregnant. Either you are or you are not. If I analyze this issue further, it may seem that I am insulting you and I really do not want to do that. I hope we can let it go.

Your pal,

Pompetus.

Radical Guy
03-05-15, 21:48
1 or 2 percent homosexual is like being 1 or 2 percent pregnant. Either you are or you are not. If I analyze this issue further, it may seem that I am insulting you and I really do not want to do that. I hope we can let it go.

Your pal,

Pompetus.It seems to me that none of us on this forum are in any position to pass judgment on any person's sexual tastes, be they gay, bi, straight, or anything in between. We are mostly mongers who enjoy chasing much younger (over 18) girls for sexual thrill, without making commitments, and overtly promiscuous. I'm sure there are many people in mainstream society who would have more than a few judgmental things to say about our preferences and lifestyle. So, please folks, enough of the subtle or overt gay bashing. I have many gay friends, and they have a right to their preferences, just like we do.

RG.

Slippery
03-05-15, 22:08
I have so much hardware in my spine that they're taking me to a junk yard when I die. I also sleep on a big blue air mattress. It was like a new life when I discovered it because so much of the pain in my spine disappears when I sleep on it. I call it the poor man's sleep number bed. It's in a nice wooden Filipino bed frame and most girls have no idea that they're on an inflatable mattress. It looks like an ordinary bed. We don't flood around here, but if 40 days and 40 nights of rain come, I can say I'm prepared.

Screaming Beaver
03-06-15, 04:45
I have so much hardware in my spine that they're taking me to a junk yard when I die. I also sleep on a big blue air mattress. It was like a new life when I discovered it because so much of the pain in my spine disappears when I sleep on it. I call it the poor man's sleep number bed. It's in a nice wooden Filipino bed frame and most girls have no idea that they're on an inflatable mattress. It looks like an ordinary bed. We don't flood around here, but if 40 days and 40 nights of rain come, I can say I'm prepared.That's very interesting but what does any of this have to do with the AC thread? Do you bring this air mattress with you as you are checking into the Orchid Inn? How do you get it onto the Swagman bus?

Mogwai
03-06-15, 05:07
1 or 2 percent homosexual is like being 1 or 2 percent pregnant. Either you are or you are not. If I analyze this issue further, it may seem that I am insulting you and I really do not want to do that. I hope we can let it go.

Your pal,

Pompetus.Yeah, we can better let it go. There's no reason to insult each other, we simply disagree.

And we probably have very different home countries and backgrounds. I'm from Holland, well known for its tolerance (although it has deteriorated quite a lot unfortunately) and I was raised by progressive parents.

BrainDrain
03-06-15, 05:13
....and she confessed that she had never done this before and that I was her second foreigner, after her Chinese ex boy friend...I love AC and the logic of the Pinay. I've never done this before except for the times I have done this.

Mogwai
03-06-15, 05:19
Frankly speaking, after living almost 10 years in SOA I also sleep on an air matress like this now, (same one in blue color) its very good for shagging actually.

I also have no kitchen, why would you need a kitchen if you can eat streetfood for a few bucks? Hot water, for what if the outside temperature is not low? A TV? To watch corperate and s**t ads all day long?

I am not poor, but after living in SOA for long time you will totally change your views about what you need for living.

This house is quiet nice and cheap actually.I can understand that living here changes your views about what you need. But do you also have no:

- airconditioning.
- shower.
- chairs and / or a couch.
- table.
- pillows.
- refrigerator.
- cupboards.
- internet.

Just like these girls?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not 'attacking' you. I'm just asking if your standard of living is the same.

Mogwai
03-06-15, 05:31
I love AC and the logic of the Pinay. I've never done this before except for the times I have done this.Her Chinese boyfriend was a 'real' boyfriend of her own age, not some old fart mongerer like us.
So it was the first time she did it for money. For what it's worth of course, you never know if they are really telling the truth.

Member #4566
03-06-15, 05:40
I was raised by progressive parents.Me too.


enough of the subtle or overt gay bashing. I agree with you. You won't hear me doing any of that stuff.

Dg8787
03-06-15, 06:00
Just joking and poking fun. Sorry couldn't resist it. No bashing intended.

Take you lunch sirs.

Mogwai
03-06-15, 07:17
Just joking and poking fun. Sorry couldn't resist it. No bashing intended.

Take you lunch sirs.DC? What does that stand for?

Dg8787
03-06-15, 08:06
DC? What does that stand for?In America AC = alternating current.

DC = direct current.

Started and still is about electrical current system. Ie automobiles have DC, direct current. House have AC system.

Then later on sexual connotations AC = gay or bi-sexual.

DC meant straight sex.

Llantarnam
03-06-15, 21:39
I'm arriving on 18th March and hoping England are still involved in the cricket world cup.

Does anyone know if the games are being shown in AC? I think they will be starting around mid day, so might be something to keep me busy until the night time entertainment starts.

Five10
03-07-15, 00:23
May I ask her name?


Past week has been great with a few old friends and 3 new ones. Last night I had one of the massage girls hanging around Fields entrance for the second time come to my hotel room. Beautiful slim 5', 19 year old with very nice curves and Ccups. First time extras was just oral 69. Last night was the same but she confided that she was a virgin. I have to add that before her I had a massage from her friend who had told me the same thing about her. Anyway from going down on her I could see what a very tight little hole it was! Then she let me rub my dickhead on the outside and I tried to just push the head in half an inch but she was in much pain. Then she offer me her cherry for 50 k but first she would ask her mother, yes her real mother if it is ok. She is doing this because the family needs money. I imagine for family medical reasons.

Anyway the question is not whether she is scamming me or whether she is a virgin or not. Or am I going to do this or not.

My question is do most guys like to do a cherry girl? And why?

AusMonger100
03-07-15, 00:42
I'm arriving on 18th March and hoping England are still involved in the cricket world cup.

Does anyone know if the games are being shown in AC? I think they will be starting around mid day, so might be something to keep me busy until the night time entertainment starts.If England is playing I don't think you'll have much of your day used up, do you?

Tomasb
03-07-15, 02:31
If she worked for a go go club, she would be required to have health inspections. The physican would then issue a health card with a remark and / or symbol indicating (if) she is a virgin. I think the symbol is a heart. Unfortunately, because you met her outside the club, it would be difficult to determine if she is telling the truth. Some young girl in a bar tried the 'I am a virgin' song and dance with me a few months ago and a guy I knew pointed out that she should be carrying a card to prove it or the MamaSan would have it. Never asked as I was not interested in the girl but good Intel anyway.

Of course, even with the card, they can resew up her hymen ad infinitum.


May I ask her name?

Capt Munch
03-07-15, 02:51
If she worked for a go go club, she would be required to have health inspections. The physican would then issue a health card with a remark and / or symbol indicating (if) she is a virgin. I think the symbol is a heart. Unfortunately, because you met her outside the club, it would be difficult to determine if she is telling the truth. Some young girl in a bar tried the 'I am a virgin' song and dance with me a few months ago and a guy I knew pointed out that she should be carrying a card to prove it or the MamaSan would have it. Never asked as I was not interested in the girl but good Intel anyway.

Of course, even with the card, they can resew up her hymen ad infinitum.I am not sure that there is any testing that the girl is actually a cherry girl or not. When she registers for her "I'd" she probably says that she is "Cherry" and the "I'd" gets made and she is a cherry girl!

The one "I'd" has a small pink "V" under the government logo. It is in the upper right hand corner of the "I'd".

Munch.

Capt Munch
03-07-15, 02:59
I received a text from a friend that was on Fields / Walking Street last night that around 10:30 last night that Nemesis was being raided.

It was likely a Manila based raid as there was reportedly a Bus being used (as opposed to locally supported revenue generators that use jeepneys").

I do NOT have any details whether any customers were involved.

This is a "K" managed bar. . . . hmmmm. . . A little unusual but not unheard of.

Maybe the SWAT team that was on Fields earlier in the evening was a sign of the things that were planned. . . . just a guess.

Munch.

Tomasb
03-07-15, 04:21
Thanks for the clarification. That is correct. The I'd should have a 'V' printed on the card; not a heart. My friend told me that means a physician actually examines the girl before the I'd is issued but no idea if his intel is accurate.


I am not sure that there is any testing that the girl is actually a cherry girl or not. When she registers for her "I'd" she probably says that she is "Cherry" and the "I'd" gets made and she is a cherry girl!

The one "I'd" has a small pink "V" under the government logo. It is in the upper right hand corner of the "I'd".

Munch.

WestCoast1
03-07-15, 06:43
Thanks for the clarification. That is correct. The I'd should have a 'V' printed on the card; not a heart. My friend told me that means a physician actually examines the girl before the I'd is issued but no idea if his intel is accurate.Tried sending you a PM, but your inbox is full.

Dg8787
03-07-15, 10:44
May I ask her name?She doesn't want her name out there.

AusMonger100
03-07-15, 12:02
I received a text from a friend that was on Fields / Walking Street last night that around 10:30 last night that Nemesis was being raided.

It was likely a Manila based raid as there was reportedly a Bus being used (as opposed to locally supported revenue generators that use jeepneys").

I do NOT have any details whether any customers were involved.

This is a "K" managed bar. . . . hmmmm. . . A little unusual but not unheard of.

Maybe the SWAT team that was on Fields earlier in the evening was a sign of the things that were planned. . . . just a guess.

Munch.So, haven't seen a lot about raids in the forum, do they only take away the girls or do the patrons get taken away as well? Is this something to watch out for?

Chop Sticks
03-07-15, 13:36
Aircon is no use, your body will get used to the temperature after several month. (depends on individuals, age, nutrition, body weight.).

Shower is a must, in the hot months I shower 4-6 times a day.

Couch and chairs are no use if you don't have a familiy living with you.

Table for PC and internet is a must if you work from home!

My dinner table is made of cardboard boxes, works surprisingly well.

No refrigerator in the last 10 years. Its useless if you don't cook yourself. Believe it or not I even get used to drink warm beer.

A kettle is more important then a fridge for me, hot water for tea or instant noodles.

I have a washing machine, but many philipina girls told me the washing machine is bad for their cheap clothes and prefer to wash by hand.

The most important is that the place is clean and save. IMHO the key to happiness is less posessions.

Of couse all this things may change once I get a wife, kids and family living with me.


I can understand that living here changes your views about what you need. But do you also have no:

- airconditioning.
- shower.
- chairs and / or a couch.
- table.
- pillows.
- refrigerator.
- cupboards.
- internet.

Just like these girls?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not 'attacking' you. I'm just asking if your standard of living is the same.

Llantarnam
03-07-15, 13:44
If England is playing I don't think you'll have much of your day used up, do you?English cricket fan = eternal optimist.

I was hoping Phillies might be showing something, but nothing obvious on their web site.

Chop Sticks
03-07-15, 13:52
What's SOA? Streets of Asia?Sued Ost Asien sorry language confusion.

Red Kilt
03-07-15, 13:52
English cricket fan = eternal optimist.

I was hoping Phillies might be showing something, but nothing obvious on their web site.All the Sports Bars in Manila are showing the World Cup (no use though if you're in AC).

Howzat!

H & J.

Amazonia have it running non-stop. I guess there are others too.

WestCoast1
03-07-15, 14:40
Sued Ost Asien sorry language confusion.Is that germanic? Please don't make us google, the board language is english. South East Asia?

KiwiBoy
03-07-15, 18:29
So, haven't seen a lot about raids in the forum, do they only take away the girls or do the patrons get taken away as well? Is this something to watch out for?Nemesis and Equis bars where both raided last night, but it was business as usual tonight.

Capt Munch
03-08-15, 01:08
So, haven't seen a lot about raids in the forum, do they only take away the girls or do the patrons get taken away as well? Is this something to watch out for?Probably not since the Sisters Bar raid last year in May has there been any rumors of patrons being taken as part of a raid. That was reportedly because some of those patrons did NOT have "I_D".

So. . . . it is always a good idea to make a copy of your passport page and carry that with you. I presume that would be adequate as a means of establishing your identification while explaining to the officer that the real passport is safely tucked away in the hotel safe.

I was NOT present for the Nemesis raid (just got the text messages from my friend) so I can't say whether the CIDG just cleared the bar of the patrons or if they tried to establish who they were.

Remember that there are still pickpockets working Fields / Walking Street and don't carry anything that you can't afford to lose including "I_D".

Be safe.

Munch.

Fastpiston
03-08-15, 02:22
Probably not since the Sisters Bar raid last year in May has there been any rumors of patrons being taken as part of a raid. That was reportedly because some of those patrons did NOT have "I_D".

So. . . . it is always a good idea to make a copy of your passport page and carry that with you. I presume that would be adequate as a means of establishing your identification while explaining to the officer that the real passport is safely tucked away in the hotel safe.

I was NOT present for the Nemesis raid (just got the text messages from my friend) so I can't say whether the CIDG just cleared the bar of the patrons or if they tried to establish who they were.

Remember that there are still pickpockets working Fields / Walking Street and don't carry anything that you can't afford to lose including "I_D".

Be safe.

Munch.It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.

Mr Enternational
03-08-15, 11:18
I received a text from a friend that was on Fields / Walking Street last night that around 10:30 last night that Nemesis was being raided.I hit a friend up who works at Nemesis as soon as Capt Munch made the original post. I did not hear from her until an hour ago.

Her: Hi. Just got home. Our bar. Police raid us. I was at the police station for almost 3 night.

Me: Why.

Her: Police raid us.

Me: Why raid?

Her: I dnt know.

Me: They take customers too?

Her: Se says humtkg. And some says mark money from barfine. I dnt know about costumer.

Me: That is fucked up.

Her: Hell yeah your right. Dnt have sleep for 2 days. No food too. No everything. Police is shit in our country.

Me: You have to pay something?

Her: They actually get our phones and money. But for sure they do it about money. They might ask for our company to pay them to let us go out.

Me: But they do not make you pay anything?

Her: I think the owner of bar already pay them. But the sad thing is they also take our money.

Me: Damn.

Her: This is really suck. Well I thank god I'm home now. But I heard the others still inside. Only waitresses they let go home first.

Me: Wow. I have to go to the dentist now. Talk later.

Her: Ok.

RumBuddy
03-08-15, 13:00
It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.What is APEC? Do you really think there will be more raids?

Wolvenvacht
03-08-15, 13:55
What is APEC? Do you really think there will be more raids?Google is your friend: Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation - www.apec.org/.

ConquerorVal
03-08-15, 16:33
Her: They actually get our phones and money. But for sure they do it about money. They might ask for our company to pay them to let us go out.Wow. That is really fucked up!! Have not got my shit together enough to post my reports on AC and Pattaya, but I have to say I have met some great mongers during this trip, including you Mr. E. Master Monger lives up to his name-above and beyond mongering, and Captain Munch provided me with some wisdom and good company. Can't wait to return. Will post soon.
Sorry, about the blurred second photo, but this girl loved mirrors. Its seems all girls like mirrors.

ThatGuy865
03-08-15, 22:02
The raid was about the usual. Getting payment from the bar. No customers were taken. Although customers are not allowed to leave until the entire process completed.

The customer had to pay their bill and sit until they finished clearing the bar. That took 3 1/2 hrs.

Raids are about the Bars and the girls. Not the customers. They want to catch BM / BO for H / T and any one involved in the transaction. Waitress, mamasans.

The BGs are taken as a means to extort money from the owners. They place a "fine" on each girl knowing the girls can't pay. Rumors are about 15 to 20,000 p per girl.

So the only way the girls get out is for the owner or "lawyer / representative" to pay. If he don't have girls, he can't open the bar. Simple as that. So they pay.

Capt Munch
03-09-15, 01:34
It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.The usual nonsense is back. . . .

While the APEC conference was going on, they had lots of extra police from other areas of the Philippines here (probably quite a few from Manila region) and things operated pretty smoothly.

With increased traffic enforcement and re-routing of the Perimeter Road traffic, traffic was light. Perhaps after the first few days, all the Filipinos that like to drive cars / motorcycles without current registrations and motorcyclists without helmets etc. All stayed home rather than risk fines.

The Department of Social Welfare had rounded up all the street children and parked them somewhere. They were absent for almost the whole conference.

The gypsy ladies with the babies were absent.

There was not really any noticeable reduction in Vitamin salesmen (LOL).

There were police everywhere and at least for a short while, things seemed almost like the real world. I would imagine that petty crime was down.

Now. . . Things are right back to where they were before the conference.

With little (mostly NO) enforcement, we are back to every Filipino ignoring ALL the rules.

It would be a good guess that there will be more raids, the city must have tallied quite a bill supporting the APEC conference and trying to put their best show on.

Munch.

Smoothy
03-09-15, 15:13
Its seems all girls like mirrors.Which hotel is that with the mirrors?

Sonjai
03-09-15, 16:11
I'm thinking of visiting Angeles and will appreciate if the members who have been there over the last 12 months could tell me if the type of girls I'm interested in are available in the town's bars and agogos. I'm after relatively tall gals (at least 165 cm /5'5") of slim built and with fair skin. From my last experience, 5 why old now, in the country I know that most girls available to Western sex tourists are dark and rather midgets like. It used to be different of course and in the early 90's when I started frequenting the Philippines I often encountered truly model type girls. I'm talking about sweet old times when Ermita was still a bustling center of adult nightlife. Last time I was in Angels I was appalled by the quality of working girls there. It was such a contrast with what I remembered about it. Anyway, perhaps things have changed now and the quality has improved. So the question again is how much luck I'm likely to have in Angeles if I only look for tall fair-skinned chicks? I fully appreciate that if there are such ladies available they are likely to be more expensive than the average bar hostess.

Thanks in advance for any relevant information.

Mogwai
03-09-15, 16:11
There were police everywhere and at least for a short while, things seemed almost like the real world. I would imagine that petty crime was down.

Now. . . Things are right back to where they were before the conference.

With little (mostly NO) enforcement, we are back to every Filipino ignoring ALL the rules.

It would be a good guess that there will be more raids, the city must have tallied quite a bill supporting the APEC conference and trying to put their best show on.

Munch.I just came back from Walking Street. There were about half a dozen police men standing near Kokomo's. I've seen them quite a lot recently, since about 1 or 2 weeks ago, can't recall that exactly. They are not doing anything. They are just standing there and keeping an eye on everything I guess. They are not chasing away or arresting street walkers or anything like that. Although I wouldn't recommend to negotiate with a SW right under their eyes.
I've also seen a couple of tourist police officers. I cannot recall that I've ever seen so much police in Walking Street before.

Nemesis is open again. I've not been inside so I don't know how many girls are back. About a year ago they were also raided when I was here (no, there's no correlation LOL!). Back then the number of girls was drastically reduced when they reopened.

Capt Munch
03-09-15, 17:16
I just came back from Walking Street. There were about half a dozen police men standing near Kokomo's. I've seen them quite a lot recently, since about 1 or 2 weeks ago, can't recall that exactly. They are not doing anything. They are just standing there and keeping an eye on everything I guess. They are not chasing away or arresting street walkers or anything like that. Although I wouldn't recommend to negotiate with a SW right under their eyes.
I've also seen a couple of tourist police officers. I cannot recall that I've ever seen so much police in Walking Street before.

Nemesis is open again. I've not been inside so I don't know how many girls are back. About a year ago they were also raided when I was here (no, there's no correlation LOL!). Back then the number of girls was drastically reduced when they reopened.Yes. . . . depending on when your last visit was to Angeles. . . There has been additional Station 4 police assigned to Walking Street. I would guess that it has been easily going on for the past 6 months, maybe longer.

They seemed to have started the extra police support around the time that they made a bigger effort to make it into Walking Street not what it was before.

Except for the "ACMETMO" police that are tasked with getting rid of any cars / motorcycles / food carts sometime after 4 or 5 PM, the Station 4 guys do wander up and down the street and also seem to be stationed on the corner at Kokomos. You should be able to recognize the ACETMO officers as usually they are the only ones that ARE allowed to ride their motor scooters up and down the Walking Street and wear orange shirts with the logo on the back.

I have never seen the Station 4 police actually do anything or interfere with anyone but then I am never down there between midnight and 5 am when all hell could be breaking loose for all I know.

I feel safer (LOL) now that they are there.

Munch.

Soapy Smith
03-09-15, 18:23
Is that germanic? Please don't make us google, the board language is english. South East Asia? Yes, South East Asia, although I think Southeast is usually one word. This u would normally have an umlaut (two dots) over it, but if the keyboard doesn't have the umlaut, ue is the usual alternative. Yes, I know this is trivia.

ConquerorVal
03-09-15, 22:56
Which hotel is that with the mirrors?It's the ABC hotel. Does anyone know a more reasonable hotel that is generous with mirrors? Wild Orchid?

D Cups
03-09-15, 23:09
I think Orchid Inn Resort has a room with mirrors if you ask.


It's the ABC hotel. Does anyone know a more reasonable hotel that is generous with mirrors? Wild Orchid?.

WestCoast1
03-10-15, 00:34
I'm thinking of visiting Angeles and will appreciate if the members who have been there over the last 12 months could tell me if the type of girls I'm interested in are available in the town's bars and agogos. SNIP
Last time I was in Angels I was appalled by the quality of working girls there. It was such a contrast with what I remembered about it. Anyway, perhaps things have changed now and the quality has improved. So the question again is how much luck I'm likely to have in Angeles if I only look for tall fair-skinned chicks? I fully appreciate that if there are such ladies available they are likely to be more expensive than the average bar hostess.
Couple of thoughts:

1. Sonjai: You weren't specific. When was the last time you were there (when the girls were appalling, as opposed to the previous time)?

2. Sonjai: I'd ask you to keep these types of questions off the main board and hit me in PM, but you aren't yet a regular paid member, and you don't yet have PM. The open forum isn't a place for newbs to come for information. Buy a membership and wait for it to activate.

3. The rest of you: Don't feed this troll. Total history of 4 posts, all in the last day. None of them are informative / descriptive Field Reports. He's literally trolling for information. He has been in / out of phils for a long time, and never posts quality FR's here. He has no intention of doing so. This is taking without giving back.

Moi 2 centavos.

WC / Phils boards decorum officer.

Member #4566
03-10-15, 01:56
I'm thinking of visiting Angeles and will appreciate if the members who have been there over the last 12 months could tell me if the type of girls I'm interested in are available in the town's bars and agogos. I'm after relatively tall gals (at least 165 cm /5'5") of slim built and with fair skin. From my last experience, 5 why old now, in the country I know that most girls available to Western sex tourists are dark and rather midgets like. It used to be different of course and in the early 90's when I started frequenting the Philippines I often encountered truly model type girls. I'm talking about sweet old times when Ermita was still a bustling center of adult nightlife. Last time I was in Angels I was appalled by the quality of working girls there. It was such a contrast with what I remembered about it. Anyway, perhaps things have changed now and the quality has improved. So the question again is how much luck I'm likely to have in Angeles if I only look for tall fair-skinned chicks? I fully appreciate that if there are such ladies available they are likely to be more expensive than the average bar hostess.

Thanks in advance for any relevant information.Nope, it is still the same. Why would you think that anything is different? Your recollection of Angeles may have been affected by "euphoric recall" in which your memories are flavored by a desire to remember happiness.

Oh, by the way, do not let some of the resident trolls on ISG discourage you from posting your questions. They are sorting through their own happiness issues.

Red Kilt
03-10-15, 03:59
English cricket fan = eternal optimist.

I was hoping Phillies might be showing something, but nothing obvious on their web site.I guess you don't need to find a TV for the World Cup any more mate?

England are on the plane home LOL.

Mogwai
03-10-15, 04:32
WC / Phils boards decorum officer.


Nope, it is still the same. Why would you think that anything is different? Your recollection of Angeles may have been affected by "euphoric recall" in which your memories are flavored by a desire to remember happiness.

Oh, by the way, do not let some of the resident trolls on ISG discourage you from posting your questions. They are sorting through their own happiness issues.OK, so Westy is our self appointed 'Phils Boards Decorum Officer'. Or appointed by Jackson after he bribed him, LOL.

Maybe Pompetus can be our 'Phils Boards Troll Officer' who answers all questions from newbies, trolls and lurkers? Then we don't have to do it. Thanks Pompetus, you're a great guy!

Mogwai
03-10-15, 04:42
3. The rest of you: Don't feed this troll. Total history of 4 posts, all in the last day. None of them are informative / descriptive Field Reports. He's literally trolling for information. He has been in / out of phils for a long time, and never posts quality FR's here. He has no intention of doing so. This is taking without giving back.OTOH... this is not entirely true Westy. His first 3 posts ARE informative / descriptive Field Reports. However not about the Phils but about Thailand. So yes, it's true that he has never posted FR's regarding the Phils.

WestCoast1
03-10-15, 05:51
I guess you don't need to find a TV for the World Cup any more mate?

England are on the plane home LOL.Oh my! Zing!

WestCoast1
03-10-15, 05:53
OK, so Westy is our self appointed 'Phils Boards Decorum Officer'. Or appointed by Jackson after he bribed him, LOL.Had to give Jackson 3 of my hotties to get the title.


Maybe Pompetus can be our 'Phils Boards Troll Officer' who answers all questions from newbies, trolls and lurkers? Then we don't have to do it. Thanks Pompetus, you're a great guy!Concur. Pomp has good FR's. Just we have a difference of opinion.

Psychman
03-10-15, 06:08
How guys can go to AC and not see many, many women then want to fuck just boggles my mind.

TwoTimeTed
03-10-15, 07:29
I am looking into a vacation in AC. So my question is:

As an American never been to the island, would it be a safe venture to go alone?

I'm am looking at a 2 week stay in the Phills then go to Thailand for 30 days.

Having been to Thailand, I can manage myself.

I hear the crime wave is bad in the Philippines so That is why I ask.

Better to go with partner and forget a lone adventure? Hard to get a partner to share the same time frame.

Mogwai
03-10-15, 07:57
How guys can go to AC and not see many, many women then want to fuck just boggles my mind.I suppose you meant 'they want to fuck' instead of 'then want to fuck'.

Well, I can imagine that guys are disappointed if they only look for girls in the bars because the quality there is often horrible. Although I admit I have only been in about ten bars or so in the past three weeks, so it's very well possible that I paid the wrong ones a visit. But the only bars where I've seen quite a lot of good looking girls were Insomnia, Calypso (the Bunker) and Atlantis. In the other bars it was 99% ugly girls and a lot of Jollibee Bellies and Butts (fatties).

However if you look outside the bars then I agree with you there are many, many good looking girls. Go sit at Kokomo's in the evening, any time between approximately 8 and 12 PM, and you will see many nice girls walking by or standing / sitting in front of the restaurant (yes also a lot of lady boys, I know). Not all of these girls are P4 P but most of them are.
It can be a little bit hit or miss. Sometimes you hardly see any girls and half an hour later you see a dozen. A lot of these girls go to High Society after about 12 PM.
The quality can be a little bit hit or miss too but with a little patience you can score a cutie every evening. Some of them you see almost every day, others only occasionally or even only once. Some of them are making clear by eye contact or smiling that they are looking for a customer, others are too shy and / or inexperienced to do that so you'll have to take the first step.

Furthermore cute girls can be found among the sales ladies in SM mall for example and of course through social media sites on the internet and chat applications like WeChat.

In the past three weeks I have picked up two bar girls. For the rest I have only shagged regulars, street walkers and WeChat contacts. And I'm having a ball!

Oosik
03-10-15, 08:18
I echo Mogwai's sentiments on the bars. Atlantis is a treasure trove. My issue with AC is the complete crap-shoot in the bed performance department. Way more GFE than PSE. As I've written before, if I wanted GFE I'd consider a GF that isn't inflatable. Also, I like convenience: Sitting around in the heat waiting for a blessing from the heavens to walk by, then praying to those heavens that she is on the menu is not my idea of convenience, nor is cultivating possibilities via social media. I've always figured that was why there was the first P in P4 P: Like in most things, you PAY for convenience and quality.

I'm into my last day here and sort of working on my report. I usually do those on planes so the snoopy f*cker next to or behind me can get a real shock. I've had a decent time, but still am looking forward to Pattaya.

Sonjai
03-10-15, 10:04
Thanks to Pompetus and Mogwai for their supportive messages. Last time I was in Angeles and the Philippines about 5-7 years ago and therefore my experience is of no use to anyone on this forum. I was comparing Angeles in the 90's with my impressions about it on my last visit and it seemed like a huge turn for the worse. But you're right it may have also something to do with us humans tending to filter old memories through pink glasses and perhaps also that weakening with age sex drive makes us more selective. One thing is for sure, in the 90's most bar girls and freelancers were slim teenagers with no kids to support whereas I only met mothers last time I was there. Thailand has changed too of course in the same way, and I often fear that mongering is a dying lifestyle in this new world. Anyway, no one yet commented about the height of girls in Angeles, and that was my main question. Thai girls on average are statistically taller than Filippinas but most bar chicks are below 5'4'. However occasionally I do find tall beauties up to 5'7" in bars in Thailand. One can find more of those tallies in expensive agogos where the price is $150 and up for long time. And so I wonder what the situation is with female ages and heights in Angeles nowadays?

Member #4566
03-10-15, 11:13
OK, so Westy is our self appointed 'Phils Boards Decorum Officer'. Or appointed by Jackson after he bribed him, LOL.

Maybe Pompetus can be our 'Phils Boards Troll Officer' who answers all questions from newbies, trolls and lurkers? Then we don't have to do it. Thanks Pompetus, you're a great guy!A couple of my ISG brethren may be eligible for the position of Bleating Deacon. Yes it is a real term whose definition I have cut and pasted below:

"Bleating deacon: A person who believes himself indispensible to a group, esp. A person who becomes so over-involved in a group's internal management, policies, or politics as to lose sight of its larger goals; (hence) a person with a negative, moralizing character, who acts like the sole source of wisdom. ".

Mogwai
03-10-15, 13:03
A couple of my ISG brethren may be eligible for the position of Bleating Deacon. Yes it is a real term whose definition I have cut and pasted below:

"Bleating deacon: A person who believes himself indispensible to a group, esp. A person who becomes so over-involved in a group's internal management, policies, or politics as to lose sight of its larger goals; (hence) a person with a negative, moralizing character, who acts like the sole source of wisdom. ".Fair enough Pompetus.

Mogwai
03-10-15, 13:11
Also, I like convenience: Sitting around in the heat waiting for a blessing from the heavens to walk by, then praying to those heavens that she is on the menu is not my idea of convenience, nor is cultivating possibilities via social media. In the evening and night time it's not hot anymore so sitting at Kokomo's is convenient enough for me. But I can understand it's not for everyone.

And the social media, especially the chat apps for your smart phone, are more convenient than you might think. You really should give it a try. Once you've got the drill and have some experience it's a walk in the park. Certainly in the Phils because the girls are so abundant.

Simmer
03-10-15, 16:42
I am looking into a vacation in AC. So my question is:

As an American never been to the island, would it be a safe venture to go alone?

I'm am looking at a 2 week stay in the Phills then go to Thailand for 30 days.

Having been to Thailand, I can manage myself.

I hear the crime wave is bad in the Philippines so That is why I ask.

Better to go with partner and forget a lone adventure? Hard to get a partner to share the same time frame.If you've been to Thailand then at least you've some experience with some Asian ways and tricks. Plenty of single people go to the Philippines without any issues at all. Keep your wits about you, don't get drunk, make sure she's of legal age, don't get arrested (see previous two points), and read these forums to learn about some of the tricks and scams. Most of all, have fun!

Oosik
03-10-15, 17:37
Mogwai: "But I can understand it's not for everyone. " - Thanks for your understanding: Right now, at midnight, it is 75 F (42 C) warmer here than at my house in mid-morning. I walk around perpetually wet. Maids barely make it out of my hotel room before being claimed by hypothermia. If I plan to BF someone I "preheat" it to what I assume is a tolerable temperature and the hapless pinays still end up wrapped in bathrobes under the covers. Romantic as hell!

Smart phone? Ah, there's the problem! No, I actually have one. I occasionally use it to talk to people and check my cameras at home. Also to show my sex videos to bar girls. A real ice breaker.

Full disclosure: The videos are of flying squirrels (see "my cameras at home", above). No reason to give the girls PTSD even before seeing me in less than full dress.

Thanks for the suggestions, though! I might try the social thing next visit, if there is one. This one didn't go well, but for some reason I am drawn here like a bug to a bug-zapper, usually with the same outcome.

Osuul
03-10-15, 22:27
I am looking into a vacation in AC. So my question is:

As an American never been to the island, would it be a safe venture to go alone?

I'm am looking at a 2 week stay in the Phills then go to Thailand for 30 days.

Having been to Thailand, I can manage myself.

I hear the crime wave is bad in the Philippines so That is why I ask.

Better to go with partner and forget a lone adventure? Hard to get a partner to share the same time frame.- Stay away from drunk locals.

- walk away if provoked.

- don't flash valuables.

- don't walk around in dark places were there is no people.

- don't go with "friends" that know some place that is the best, cheapest, most whatever.

BTW I would follow the same rules in LA, New York or Miami.

Mogwai
03-11-15, 04:04
Thanks to Pompetus and Mogwai for their supportive messages. Last time I was in Angeles and the Philippines about 5-7 years ago and therefore my experience is of no use to anyone on this forum. I was comparing Angeles in the 90's with my impressions about it on my last visit and it seemed like a huge turn for the worse. But you're right it may have also something to do with us humans tending to filter old memories through pink glasses and perhaps also that weakening with age sex drive makes us more selective. One thing is for sure, in the 90's most bar girls and freelancers were slim teenagers with no kids to support whereas I only met mothers last time I was there. Thailand has changed too of course in the same way, and I often fear that mongering is a dying lifestyle in this new world. Anyway, no one yet commented about the height of girls in Angeles, and that was my main question. Thai girls on average are statistically taller than Filippinas but most bar chicks are below 5'4'. However occasionally I do find tall beauties up to 5'7" in bars in Thailand. One can find more of those tallies in expensive agogos where the price is $150 and up for long time. And so I wonder what the situation is with female ages and heights in Angeles nowadays?If you already thought 5-7 years ago that it was a huge turn for the worse compared to the 90's then you can better not come back I'm afraid.
I made my first two visits to Angeles in 2006 and 2007 and I had a ball. Plenty of cuties everywhere (although maybe I have filtered old memories through pink glasses a little bit).
My third and fourth visit were last year, so 7 years later. The scene had deteriorated significantly but nevertheless I could still find enough cuties to play with, albeit with a little more effort.
When I came back about 3 weeks ago for my fifth visit I was shocked when I saw the 'quality' in the bars. I had to look elsewhere (street, WeChat) to find good looking girls. See my post #16337 below.

So in summary: if you come here for the bar girls only, stay home. If you're willing to look elsewhere (street, chat apps, social media, disco's, malls) then you can still have a great time.

As far tall beauties: there might be some spread around in the bars but not that many. I suggest you setup some chat app accounts and make clear that you are looking for tall girls.

Sxxxx
03-11-15, 04:16
Can anyone supply the email address of Stardust Show bar, Fields, Angeles?

I have tried via Google, no luck.

Thanks

WestCoast1
03-11-15, 04:51
"Bleating deacon: A person who believes himself indispensible to a group, esp. A person who becomes so over-involved in a group's internal management, policies, or politics as to lose sight of its larger goals; (hence) a person with a negative, moralizing character, who acts like the sole source of wisdom. ".Love the term. I don't know of anyone here who believes he is indispensable to the phils forums. I don't believe anyone here is the sole source of wisdom. I simply express a view that I believe in. Anyone can freely disagree (and I think raising the level of debate is always important).

If Sonjai was coming here 5-7 years ago, where are his FR's from that time. I still am willing to help Son in a similar way as Mog has done, but only after he becomes a paid member, in PM. Trolling: Dropping your line into the water behind the boat, hoping something (anything) jumps on. Certainly this describes what freeloaders do here. Sonjai, you are paying up a membership, right? Anyone who can afford to travel to phils can afford a membership.

Mog: OTOH... this is not entirely true Westy. His first 3 posts ARE informative / descriptive Field Reports. However not about the Phils but about Thailand. So yes, it's true that he has never posted FR's regarding the Phils. Making my case: His previous trips to phils produced nothing, and Son is now attempting to take without giving.

Sxxxx
03-11-15, 04:56
I am still in Angeles and there is, amongst the overweight and underweight ones, enough pretty girls for everyone. Bar fine prices can be ridiculous, especially if girls are 4's and 5's. One mama san suggested to avoid the bar fine I arrange to meet the girl during the day. I was surprised with that kind of advice, coming from a Mama-san. One girl told me mama san gets P100 of girls share of barfine, usually 50% of the total. Suppose mama san thinks if guy is not going to pay silly bar fine prices, better she organize for guy to have one of her girls during day, and get P100 or more. Mama sans conspiring against bar, some of the girls doing likewise, Police Raids, the rise in dating sites free of bar fine and ladies drinks, does not auger well for bar owners.

Sxxxx
03-11-15, 05:04
If Sonjai was coming here 5-7 years ago, where are his FR's from that time. I still am willing to help Son in a similar way as Mog has done, but only after he becomes a paid member, in PM. Trolling: Dropping your line into the water behind the boat, hoping something (anything) jumps on. Certainly this describes what freeloaders do here. Sonjai, you are paying up a membership, right? Anyone who can afford to travel to phils can afford a membership.Keep up the good work WC (no offense, I know it means toilet too, LOL).

Freeloading is a way of life nowadays. Take but not give is now a default modus operandi.

You are our non elected ISG Policeman in all freeloader matters. Thanks for your good service in the past and presumably in the future.

LuvAsianTang
03-11-15, 05:46
- Stay away from drunk locals.

- walk away if provoked.

- don't flash valuables.

- don't walk around in dark places were there is no people.

- don't go with "friends" that know some place that is the best, cheapest, most whatever.

BTW I would follow the same rules in LA, New York or Miami.You left out " don't walk around with a hand full of money and a tube of KY with your pants around your ankles " LOL.

Butt then that applies to every city in the world. Oh yeah. Also don't look like a scared puppy, you would be surprised how much trouble you can avoid with a look of confidence.

Just my 5 pesos L A T.

Dg8787
03-11-15, 05:53
So what would a Bleating Monger be?

Haha. A 20+ year on the ground experience monger?

Yes for some the good ole days are gone! When I started in business 30 years ago, the old timers told me the same, the good old days are gone! Guess what? I then proceeded to make my own good old days. Same here in AC, a few years ago I proceeded to make my good old days. It has been plucking wonderful!

Dg8787
03-11-15, 06:05
You left out " don't walk around with a hand full of money and a tube of KY with your pants around your ankles " LOL.

Butt then that applies to every city in the world. Oh yeah. Also don't look like a scared puppy, you would be surprised how much trouble you can avoid with a look of confidence.

Just my 5 pesos L A T.Girls here don't need KY. Haven't met a dry well yet!

LAT, is right. If you need your mother to hold your hand to walk you across the street, then stay home and use your freed hand wisely.

Funny story but true. After a few girls visiting in my hotel room I always noticed my toothpaste in a different spot. It was during dining adventure at the "Y", I noticed a mint flavor taste, kind of like my toothpaste! Come to find out some girls wash their pu$$Y with toothpaste!

Member #4566
03-11-15, 07:01
Girls here don't need KY. Haven't met a dry well yet! Come to find out some girls wash their pu$$Y with toothpaste!Some girls may also apply a vaginal lubricant. If they carry their own condoms why wouldn't they carry some lube to help them with the ordeal of taking the big dicks that we love to brag about. I thought it was my sez appeal that made them wet but I have begun to wonder if I wasn't deluding myself.

Dg8787
03-11-15, 08:44
Some girls may also apply a vaginal lubricant. If they carry their own condoms why wouldn't they carry some lube to help them with the ordeal of taking the big dicks that we love to brag about. I thought it was my sez appeal that made them wet but I have begun to wonder if I wasn't deluding myself.Very possible but like I said I haven't run across one yet. Upon changing position I have had them use their own saliva to lube for re-entry.

Mogwai
03-11-15, 09:17
Some girls may also apply a vaginal lubricant. If they carry their own condoms why wouldn't they carry some lube to help them with the ordeal of taking the big dicks that we love to brag about. I thought it was my sez appeal that made them wet but I have begun to wonder if I wasn't deluding myself.I've had some Thai girls who did that but so far I never met a Pinay who did that. Usually I try to finger them a little bit as part of the foreplay and most of them are still dry then or only a little bit wet. If their pussy is very wet from the start already but only 'on the inside' (beyond the lips) then they are simply very horny. If their pussy lips and the area directly around it (their anus for example) are also wet and everything feels a bit 'slimy' then they have most likely applied lube.

Mogwai
03-11-15, 09:27
Funny story but true. After a few girls visiting in my hotel room I always noticed my toothpaste in a different spot. It was during dining adventure at the "Y", I noticed a mint flavor taste, kind of like my toothpaste! Come to find out some girls wash their pu$$Y with toothpaste!LOL! I hope they floss too so you don't lick or swallow anything that your predecessors left behind when you DATY them.

Apologies if you're just having breakfast.

Dg8787
03-11-15, 11:46
LOL! I hope they floss too so you don't lick or swallow anything that your predecessors left behind when you DATY them.

Apologies if you're just having breakfast.By design the V are self-cleaning with the higher acidity. LOL. Thats why I take the girls long time hoping I am the first for the day. For that reason of high activity I am not able to do blow row even for a BJ.

No problem sir I have taken my breakfast.

Oosik
03-11-15, 22:18
I think I'd better take that tube of SuperGlue I carry for emergencies out of my toiletries kit.

ConquerorVal
03-11-15, 22:37
It was during dining adventure at the "Y", I noticed a mint flavor taste, kind of like my toothpaste! Come to find out some girls wash their pu$$Y with toothpaste!I believe they use toothpaste as protection from getting STD.

RumBuddy
03-11-15, 23:03
When I return to AC, I want to save some money on my food, though I won't eat crazy, I want a safe good meal. I went to the Margarita Bar for Breakfast one morning, it cost over $300 pesos, I did like the fact I could get wheat toast. But they took so long for the order to come and the eggs tasted like they put sugar in them. Went to Philly's one day, it was over $300. Then I noticed, Philly's had a $110 peso breakfast. 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes. Not bad for a breakfast. I paid like 30 peso for another egg. I like a western breakfast as oppossed to Jolibies. Another thing, I find getting veggies in the Phils is not common. I did try salad once. Never will I do that again, I got the runs and didn't end until I came home 2 weeks later and my Dr prescribed Cirpro, fixed it almost with the 1st pill. No more salads for me. I dlike Jollibees, but not too much fried food for me... I will be there for a week the next visit, so I want to eat some decent meals. I will eat some qucik noodles some days for lunch and then decent dinner. I want to only spend $20 USD a day unless I feed my girl for the time.

BeachBoy46
03-12-15, 01:35
When I return to AC, I want to save some money on my food, though I won't eat crazy, I want a safe good meal. I went to the Margarita Bar for Breakfast one morning, it cost over $300 pesos, I did like the fact I could get wheat toast. But they took so long for the order to come and the eggs tasted like they put sugar in them. Went to Philly's one day, it was over $300. Then I noticed, Philly's had a $110 peso breakfast. 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes. Not bad for a breakfast. I paid like 30 peso for another egg. I like a western breakfast as oppossed to Jolibies. Another thing, I find getting veggies in the Phils is not common. I did try salad once. Never will I do that again, I got the runs and didn't end until I came home 2 weeks later and my Dr prescribed Cirpro, fixed it almost with the 1st pill. No more salads for me. I dlike Jollibees, but not too much fried food for me... I will be there for a week the next visit, so I want to eat some decent meals. I will eat some qucik noodles some days for lunch and then decent dinner. I want to only spend $20 USD a day unless I feed my girl for the time.Ill take a guess and say the salad items were washed in ordinary tap water, hence the runs. Salads are a nono in SEA unless at a 5* place. My policy anyhow.

Capt Munch
03-12-15, 02:07
When I return to AC, I want to save some money on my food, though I won't eat crazy, I want a safe good meal. I went to the Margarita Bar for Breakfast one morning, it cost over $300 pesos, I did like the fact I could get wheat toast. But they took so long for the order to come and the eggs tasted like they put sugar in them. Went to Philly's one day, it was over $300. Then I noticed, Philly's had a $110 peso breakfast. 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes. Not bad for a breakfast. I paid like 30 peso for another egg. I like a western breakfast as oppossed to Jolibies. Another thing, I find getting veggies in the Phils is not common. I did try salad once. Never will I do that again, I got the runs and didn't end until I came home 2 weeks later and my Dr prescribed Cirpro, fixed it almost with the 1st pill. No more salads for me. I dlike Jollibees, but not too much fried food for me... I will be there for a week the next visit, so I want to eat some decent meals. I will eat some qucik noodles some days for lunch and then decent dinner. I want to only spend $20 USD a day unless I feed my girl for the time.RB. . . . you should check with the local ex-pats. LOL.

Some of the ex-pats are on a budget and will point you to places that are budget priced.

I have one place that I eat breakfast that 2 eggs / 2 slices of toast / home fries are 75 php, add a bottomless cup of coffee for another 55 php and you are 130 php / 150 php with a 20 php tip.

Another place I go has a ham and cheese omelet and a slice of toast for 120 php. 2 eggs and a slice of toast there is maybe 70 php.

These places are NOT directly in the tourist area defined by MacArthur Hwy (McDo) on one end and Margarita Station at the other end. The second place is however very close to ABC hotel.

So I am with you. . . . reasonably priced food is OK with me. After all. For the most part, food is food.

Places like Margarita / Kokomos / Phillies are tourist hangouts and charge western prices. I think some of their prices probably exceeed what I pay back in America. When a dozen eggs at the grocery store costs 72 php (6 php each) a 30 php egg at those places seems a bit high.

Why 3 egg omelets at Kokomos / Margarita are in the range of 300 php is beyond me other than they enjoy some healthy profits at those prices.

I had a couple of ex-pats telling me about a place that has a breakfast buffet on Satudays that is priced at 250 php. I might have to see if I can find that, Sounds like a good deal.

Scorebirds hotel has been running a dinner all-you-can-eat buffet for less than 300 php on Friday's and Saturdays. We will have to see how long that lasts at that price.

Munch.

Member #4566
03-12-15, 02:46
Located in the Diamond Subdivision just down the street from Swagman's, the Marble Inn may have the best restaurant in AC. It is an open kitchen and you see the food prepared in front of you. Henrik, the Swede, and his lovely wife Belinda, the Pinay, are the proprietors and are tops. Yes, it is not in the center of the "action," but that is an advantage to some. Large aircon rooms will run around 1100 pesos. There is only one problem: now that I told you about it, it is no longer the best kept secret in AC.

D Cups
03-12-15, 03:47
Located in the Diamond Subdivision just down the street from Swagman's, the Marble Inn may have the best restaurant in AC. It is an open kitchen and you see the food prepared in front of you. Henrik, the Swede, and his lovely wife Belinda, the Pinay, are the proprietors and are tops. Yes, it is not in the center of the "action," but that is an advantage to some. Large aircon rooms will run around 1100 pesos. There is only one problem: now that I told you about it, it is no longer the best kept secret in AC.Any good steaks on the menu?

Simmer
03-12-15, 04:21
Another thing, I find getting veggies in the Phils is not common.Conversation I had with a Filipino waiter once:

Me: "Is this meat in the pancit?

Waiter: "Yes sir".

Me: "But I thought it was vegetarian?

Waiter: "It is vegetarian sir. With meat. ".

No, I'm not veggie but I do like some veg so I sometimes order a side dish of such. Like you I find that getting veggies without asking for them is not that common.

Mogwai
03-12-15, 05:40
I think I'd better take that tube of SuperGlue I carry for emergencies out of my toiletries kit.Imagine you stick your dick in her pussy right after she applied it. You would be glued together for ever. It would feel like marriage, aaaaah! LOL!

Docwiltro
03-12-15, 08:34
Ill take a guess and say the salad items were washed in ordinary tap water, hence the runs. Salads are a nono in SEA unless at a 5* place. My policy anyhow.I don't eat salads in the Philippines either: ever! The problem is the water used to irrigate the fields; it's often polluted. As much as I'd like to eat better in the Phils, I usually stick to the fast food places like Jollibees and McDos because their food quality standards are higher, and to date, I've not ever gotten food poisoning at the well known fast food franchises.

Hutsori
03-12-15, 09:40
I don't eat salads in the Philippines either: ever! Excellent! More salad for me. You're missing out on Baguio's tasty romaine lettuce. I wash all my fruits and veg with tap water. Heck, I often drink the city tap water, though as hot tea. I've never had a problem. I've seen Filipino kitchen staff in restrooms. You know what they often fail to do? Wash their hands. I've been in restaurant kitchens and have seen cross contamination. Last time I was in McDo the counter girl pulled my cup from the towering stack and dozens of cups spilled to the dirty floor. She gathered all the cups (this took more than 3 seconds, in case you're wondering) and put them back on the stack. The McDo front-counter manager watched the whole event and didn't say word one. I challenged the manager: "All those cups fell on the dirty floor and you are going to have your customers drink from them?" The manager was baffled. What to do? What to do?

RumBuddy
03-12-15, 10:22
Can you get cipro in AC without a prescription?

Oosik
03-12-15, 17:02
Time to start writing my report and see if the guy in the next seat is snooping on me. {writes, then deletes entire section on receiving anal sex from male fur seals}. Okay, no reaction. He is apparently actually reading his book, or is so, so much more of a degenerate than I am that I feel honored to be in his Presence.

I'll break this into sections both to make it a little more manageable and so that I can try to put the useful stuff in one section and identify it as such. That way those who actually have lives can skip the rest of this garbage.

This was Phase Two of my trip. Phase One was Bangkok, where I left a trail of bodily fluids, admittedly primarily sweat, throughout the Sukhumvit strip. Phase Three will be Pattaya. I am basking in the cultural high spots of Southeast Asia. Or at least a part of me is.

On arrival in MNL there was a death March from the gate that passed three non-operating moving walkways. Nice to have that sort of consistency in a developing country. For reasons known only to the Gods of Travel I breezed through immigrations. There were actually two booths with no lines whatsoever. It wasn't a tough choice: One had an old guy. The other had the hottest immigrations chick I've ever seen. I found myself wondering what the Immigrations Service bar fine policy was. Probably better that I didn't ask. I could have had a LOT more sex than I was looking for, but not exactly of the type desired.

I'm really fed up with the Manila taxi BS so I opted to splurge for a car direct from NAIA to AC: 2800 pesos through Margarita Station. Highly recommended. Very good meeting instructions. They suggested I send a photo and the driver must have gotten it as he seemed to recognize me. Pretty amazing that he even showed up after seeing my mug.

I stayed at the Orchid Inn the crappy old one a block off of Fields. For reasons I cannot really fathom this is my usual home. I've only tried two other places. One, Valentino's, didn't have a restaurant; the other, the Apartelle Royale, was roomy as hell but a little far from the Fields action for numerous walking cycles. Besides, the Orchid rooms smell like urinal cakes and there is nothing quite like waking to the scent of a newly cleaned urinal.

You know you're in AC when the bellmen ask if you need Viagra or a girl.

I will definitely be looking for different accommodations should I return. When the hell did the Orchid become a family destination? The sound of screaming kids rounded out the wonderful urinal-themed waking. We'll get to more kid screaming issues in a bit because nothing says "Punter Forum" better than an in-depth treatise on volume and pitch issues in juveniles.

The whipped cream on the dessert that was my first morning's dawning was the pounding in my head. I know that a lot of you have this regularly and consider it collateral damage for gallantly attacking thirty bottles of San Miguel, but it is a rare experience for me as I am way too manly to drink alcohol. Hangovers, waking with dicks drawn on faces, exorbitant puke removal dry cleaning bills, and painful surgeries to set limbs broken while dancing naked on a Zamboni during the Stanley Cup finals pale in comparison to the deep and lasting damage done by gallons of Coca Cola and its peers on an average mongering night. Antacids scream in terror as I chug them by the handful.

I know AC is a party town but a contact hangover? Really? Probably not: My guess is it was the construction in a room a couple door down.

Also in evidence at the Orchid were at least a dozen South Asians (I think but detecting race or national origin is not one of my stronger suits). I only mention it because of the weirdness of how I found this out: I was delayed in the hall as they all filed into one room. WTF? That was going to be a serious sausage fest.

Oosik
03-12-15, 17:09
AC seemed delightfully uncrowded for what is supposed to be a busy time. I could walk, not creep, on Walking Street. I didn't always return to my room with homicidal thoughts about idiots there. I think some of this is because I just came from BKK and my very unscientific survey determined that far more people there were having their brains sucked out by mobile devices as they walked, so AC was a refreshing change. Mobile devices: Taking the "Mobile" out of mobility since the early 2000's. The crowding exception was when a tour bus would disgorge a few dozen guys who most likely had rice and fish for breakfast.

I visited about half a dozen bars. Generally the girl quality was pretty poor, but this is not that uncommon. Most places have the Elite bars, the Average Bars, and the God This Is Awful. You'd Better Be Able To Get Blown Under The Table bars. AC has a few of the Elites I spent a lot of time at Atlantis and was quite impressed, and a whole lot of the other two, but take-away beats a BJ under the table, so I guess that is not that bad, especially if you drink. Drink a lot.

It's a tough call but I think looks-wise the AC bars' girls have a slight edge over the BKK ones, but it isn't really a fair comparison between the countries themselves: It is more an entire country (PI) versus a region (Issan). The Pinays seem to have just a little more in the way of butts and a LOT less in the way of tattoos. If I wanted to have sex with an art object, I'd go to a port and bend over a sailor.

I've never seen a tat that improved the looks of the wearer unless it was there to distract one from the fact she had, say, an anus where an eye should be. Besides detracting from the girl's appearance there is a more insidious danger: In the sadly non-nude world of AC dancing one cannot fully examine the Girlfriend of the Night until unwrapping time comes in the room, so one has no idea what other tats she might have. It's bad enough that we already have to quiz them in the bar about procedures, e. G. , BBJ, CIM, rimming, domesticated animals, etc. , but at a minimum tat girls need the additional question, "Do you have Justin Bieber's face tattooed on a butt cheek?" Unless that is a turn on for you. I'm not being judgmental here: I'll grant that yes, slapping the ever-loving shit out of Justin Bieber's face does have a certain attraction, but not enough to compensate for the years of therapy I'd need after finding it there.

So that is a plus for the Pinays. On the down side there is the screaming. Yes, Thai girls can scream, too, like when Justin is getting slapped around. And yes, Thai bars have those f*cking ping pong balls for them to scramble after. But most multi-story Thai bars have dance floors on each floor. In Angeles the multi-story bars have just the main dance area with maybe a few satellites, but balconies overlooking the main. Balconies which, ahem, SCREAM for balls, bills, or Bieber* (* not yet, but I hope someone is working on it) to be tossed. The resultant screaming can best be described as sitting one row ahead of a family with two year old sextuplets in economy on a transpacific flight. For extra realism the parents should be poking the little bastards with cattle prods.

To carry the air travel analogy farther, I try to find a seat against the wall, much as one might seek a seat in front of a bulkhead in a plane to avoid the sextuplets' kicking. In the bar case it is to try to thwart the massage girls. There are now dedicated (not in the "hard working" connotation) massage girls roaming some bars. Not to insult the intelligence of the bar owners, but did they just do a cursory reading of the Thailand ISG forum, spot three different massage parlor threads and assume, "Punters really, really dig neck and shoulder massages"?

As you've probably guessed, I like massages about as much as I like tattoos, maybe less because one can always just close one's eyes with the latter. And the girls are persistent: At least half the time it takes two "No's", maybe even a twist to get away from them.

If this narrative sounds a little angry, blame it on Cathay Pacific. I'm now in a car heading for Pattaya after filing the appropriate paperwork at Suvarnabhumi so that maybe they can find my luggage before I head home in a week. Also, they had two menu choices in business class: Something with mushrooms and some noodles. No fungi for me, thank you! Oh, they only loaded the fungus breakfast! But I have to say that they aim to please: They hunted down an omelet from somewhere. Maybe the pilot went hungry. So did I: It was a mushroom omelet.

Oosik
03-12-15, 17:21
But on to more specifics. I visited LaBamba, Angelwitch and Grand Pharaoh and was far from impressed. LaBamba was a total loss while Angelwitch itself was bad, as well, but I kept waiting for the next shift to get on stage because there were some cuties roaming around. After a while I determined that they must actually work at the attached bar (maybe Roadhouse?) but I didn't want to risk more ugliness so I fled to Atlantis for a recharge. The Pharaoh had a couple doable ones (with that many girls the odds are that at least one is above average) and as a bonus featured a pushy waitress who later disappeared completely so I headed to the bar to settle to tab. The manager was not amused.

The Dollhouse was above average, but not as good as I remembered. Also, it is a multi story bar. Atlantis is, too, but they can make up for it with looks.

Insomnia may have been pretty good. I would know more if I had not been immediately seized by two girls who I think were waitresses. There were several offers of a massage. I did not tarry.

I spent a lot of time at Pony Tails. My first two visits were in search of a lovely I BF's last time, but she has moved on. Too bad, as I sort of wanted to screw her since I didn't last time.

What?

It was rather bizarre: We got some room service then discussed Corregidor for something like an hour and a half. I was not completely clear on the terms of the BF. Like the time limit, so she had to rather belatedly ask if anything else was on the menu for that afternoon. The time was short enough by then that I just blew it off. I don't think it was a scam: She was more than willing to go for the quickie. On the brighter side she did have a tattoo that I was going to have to overlook if we got intimate, so I dodged that. She was, though, one of the thong girls so I was sure I wasn't going to find any unwanted faces lurking.

But back to the recent past. Their day crew may actually be better than the night one. Numerous cuties, not really stunners, but definitely good enough. It also gets major points for dancers dancing to the William Tell Overture. True, it was a choreographed group, not just a standard song, but that still goes in to my top three in weirdness from over 1300 bars, along with the theme from the Jeffersons and Glen Miller's "In The Mood". Dishonorable Mention goes to an Oklahoma bar with a song whose chorus included, "Well she ran off with a {synonym for "black gentlemen" that rhymes with "trigger"} six foot four, named Buck. " Yes, Oklahoma: If it isn't their college fraternities' videos that are racist, it's their topless bars' playlists.

I talked with one of the girls from the choreographed group. They come in at 10 AM to practice for two hours before the club opens. I assume there is decent monetary compensation for this. They may be bar fine-able, but I'd be a little surprised since it is choreographed as a group. If they are not their income would just be LD's, tips, and a salary.

I had a fleeting hope that things would elevate above talking, though: It turned out that the next day, my last day for this trip, was her day off, so I was much distressed that I would not be seeing her again. I would have cried in my beer except the non-drinking thing. She volunteered to come in to see me. We set a time, 6 PM, but I wasn't expecting much. Sure enough, the time came and went. I figured I'd give her half an hour.

At six thirty she walked in. Good thing I didn't go with twenty five minutes. I bought her a drink which she drank very slowly. I asked if she was hungry. Yes. Hey things were looking up. When her drink was finally finished it was time to make our exit. Or really our exits. It turned out that she would get in trouble if she went to eat with me, so I wasn't going to get my chance to elevate to the next (horizontal) step. I suspect this is legit because after going to the trouble of meeting me there, why would she lie her way out of it? That begs the question, why the hell did she come in, anyway? I've never seen myself as the irresistible Casanova type.

Other bits and pieces from Pony Tails: I guess they have a kitchen, at any rate there was some guy walking around with a hot dog. Time to get back on my soapbox. NO MAN SHOULD EVER WALK AROUND A STRIP CLUB WITH A HOT DOG. I can only pray that he was bringing it to a girl for a certain demonstration. I pray this because the other, horrific possibility is that he ate it. A hot dog. In a strip club. I cannot imagine that. Yes, I guess I can, and he should go fall on his sword somewhere. The one he probably swallows along with hot dogs.

They should sell tacos.

In the other Men Behaving Badly item, as I waited for Miss Choreography the guy on the next couch, a Pinoy who had been sprawled backwards, utterly absorbed in his phone for ten minutes, decided to get more comfortable by kicking off his sandals and sitting on his feet on the sofa. I have now permanently struck Pony Tails from my list of strip clubs to break into to sniff sofa cushions. I don't want to smell a ruined fish bouquet, nor come out of it with athlete's nose. I would have complained but they tend to change the locks when I do that.

His opposites were two gentlemen who came in on my second visit there. It was very early, with perhaps a dozen customers. I was on the not-yet ruined couch and they started to sit down in front of me, then one spotted me and I heard something like, "Let's not ruin his view," and they sat instead at the next table. Common courtesy that is often just not common. I paid for their first drinks as I left.

The closest I came to BF'ing was a girl at Atlantis. I bought a LD and chatted her up one night as an evaluation for the next. Not a whole lot of charisma, but I don't f*ck charisma. She quoted 3000 for the BF. I don't know what sort of time period (did we have time to talk about freakin' Corregidor?) was included as I figured we'd get into the details the next night and told her so. So I did weird stuff like shaving and tidying the room the next day, positioning the condom and the lube in the bedside drawer, then went to collect my prize. She didn't show up for work. Weird: One comes in on her day off to see me, the other doesn't even come in on a work day, presumably to avoid me! What a waste! You only get so many shaves out of a razor! Thank goodness I'm not into the pharmaceuticals yet: I'd be dashing around with a turgid member looking for some place to plant it so that I didn't waste THAT money. I might even have dropped by Pony Tails to see if Hot Dog Man was there.

She did show up the next night, but by then I had rationalized that my being shunned was a sign that she would not be that awesome in bed (don't ask me to actually describe that logic), so the magic was gone.

Oosik
03-12-15, 17:26
So that was it: A no-hitter in Angeles. Just about every night I pondered dropping by what is left of Blow Row. BJ bars are my favorites in Thailand but knew that I would be hailed by my nemesis at the Black Pearl. I believe I first had her one time about six years ago. Then I took a two or maybe even three year AC hiatus. On my return I went in search of oral release and got recognized and dragged in for seconds. Two or three years! And she remembered my name and where I was from! That is some scary crap. But besides the fear of an ever more mature provider, the business about no on-site service is a real downer for me for two reasons. First, as mentioned in a post a while back, I'm into the convenience thing. Second, the crappy short-time place down the street has some ceiling mirrors which, though admittedly cloudy, still provide a LOT more detail of me than I really want to see.

In hindsight I fear that Angeles is not really for me, but not for a lack of attractive women, even in the bars. Yes, as Mogwai pointed out, there are many other venues: I fell in lust about every second store walking through SM. But by sheer numbers bars will get enough cuties to choose from. All the better if you drink, as long as it is ST so you never see her when you sober up.

I summed up my issues some posts ago: Convenience and PSE. Maybe I'm misunderstanding some of Mogwai's suggestions, but I want it to be quite clear at the outset that this is sex. Period. If a mall hottie or an online profile says "Will f*ck for pesos", I might take a nibble. No, maybe it had better say something a lot more exciting than just f*ck. The thrill of the chase is lost on me, and I'm not going to utter one word of BS to woo a sweet young thing into bed or the stocks or whatever. Not only do I not seek GFE, I don't want GFE.

All of which makes it pretty weird that I will most likely be back in a year if not sooner. As I wrote: Like a bug to a bug-zapper.

Llantarnam
03-12-15, 20:39
Excellent! More salad for me. Many years ago I worked in the middle east and shared accommodation with a professional expat.

Best advice he ever gave me. If it ain't cooked don't eat it.

Member #4351
03-12-15, 20:49
Also, they had two menu choices in business class: Something with mushrooms and some noodles. No fungi for me, thank you! Oh, they only loaded the fungus breakfast! CX catering from the Philippines is dismal. I always pre-order the Indian vegetarian.

Fast Eddie 48
03-12-15, 22:08
Can you get cipro in AC without a prescription?To Rum.

Not sure about AC I find drug is too expensive in PI but you can get it very cheap in Thailand, Hong Kong even in Singapore without prescription.

Fast eddie 48.

RumBuddy
03-12-15, 22:23
Time to start writing my report and see if the guy in the next seat is snooping on me. {writes, then deletes entire section on receiving anal sex from male fur seals}. Okay, no reaction. He is apparently actually reading his book, or is so, so much more of a degenerate than I am that I feel honored to be in his Presence.

I'll break this into sections both to make it a little more manageable and so that I can try to put the useful stuff in one section and identify it as such. I would have to say you wrote a lot about nothing. Leave AC and go back to Bangkok. It sounds like you had a horrible time there. I enjoyed myself there and will return soon.

RumBuddy
03-12-15, 22:25
To Rum.

Not sure about AC I find drug is too expensive in PI but you can get it very cheap in Thailand, Hong Kong even in Singapore without prescription.

Fast eddie 48.So if I get sick, I should hop on a place to BKK to get it cheap? Hopefully I won't need it at all. I was hoping for some helpful info. How expensive is too expensive. If I have the runs, I probably won't care too much about the price. It only cost me $8 here in the states, I may try to get some here before iI leave for AC.

RumBuddy
03-12-15, 22:28
Many years ago I worked in the middle east and shared accommodation with a professional expat.

Best advice he ever gave me. If it ain't cooked don't eat it.Will definitely follow this advice.

Pip Jaeger
03-12-15, 23:20
Can you get cipro in AC without a prescription?Generally speaking, yes. Some places like Watson's may ask for a script, but I usually avoid getting meds from them as they tend to have the highest prices. At "The Generic's Rx", where I purchase most of my meds, the cost for generic Cipro at the one I use in Cebu City is p14 per 500 MG tab. Branded, available at other Rx's, tends to run about p40-50 per tab.

Radical Guy
03-13-15, 00:16
Many years ago I worked in the middle east and shared accommodation with a professional expat.

Best advice he ever gave me. If it ain't cooked don't eat it.I guess the professional expat was not a big fan of DATY.

LOL.

Pip Jaeger
03-13-15, 00:29
When I return to AC, I want to save some money on my food, SNIP Went to Philly's one day, it was over $300 (I presume you meant p 300 / 300 pesos and not dollars?; suggest you leave off the dollar sign in the future posts unless you're talking about prices in USD). Then I noticed, Philly's had a $110 peso breakfast. 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes. Not bad for a breakfast. I paid like 30 peso for another egg. I like a western breakfast as oppossed to Jolibies. SNIP I will be there for a week the next visit, so I want to eat some decent meals SNIP I want to only spend $20 USD a day unless I feed my girl for the time.Bro you crack me up, you probably spend over a grand on airfare and you're worried about saving 5 dollars a day on food?

If that's the case then the way I see it you've got 2 other options:

1) = Rent a furnished condo / apartelle (many available for about the same price as a decent hotel room) and cook your own breakfast.

2) = Put off your visit until you've managed to save up an extra 35 bucks to cover a week of the outrageously high cost of a decent breakfast.

Capt Munch
03-13-15, 01:03
"Punters really, really dig neck and shoulder massages"?.Did you not notice how these massage girls in the bar all flock to the kimchi squad and start the massaging them? They apparently LOVE it.

Unless they are in a big enough group, I don't see what the girls / waitress / hostess attraction is to these K guys. Most of the time they don't seem to spend any money when they travel by themselves or in pairs. When they are in a big enough group, they have to try to outdo each other and see who is BMOC.

The other night at one of the bars, one of the K clientelle was passing out peanuts in a small handful to several of the dancers on stage. These were from a small bag he had brought with him from outside of the bar. These girls spent 10 min hunkered down engaging the customer while he was busy consuming HIS drink. Nothing for the girls other than the peanuts. Big spender!

But. . . I am with you. . . . I don't enjoy some waitress trying to give me a neck and shoulder massage either. I tell them I am NOT Korean LOL.

RumBuddy
03-13-15, 01:36
Bro you crack me up, you probably spend over a grand on airfare and you're worried about saving 5 dollars a day on food?

If that's the case then the way I see it you've got 2 other options:

1) = Rent a furnished condo / apartelle (many available for about the same price as a decent hotel room) and cook your own breakfast.

2) = Put off your visit until you've managed to save up an extra 35 bucks to cover a week of the outrageously high cost of a decent breakfast.No, I should be ok. I have about 50 days til I go. Maybe I'm just over thinking it. But I don't really want to pay a lot for food that isn't very good. Also, since I just spent about $4000 on my last visit to the Phils last month, this trip I will not be as free with the money. I'd rather spend my money on the ladies and in the bars. And if I care to take a lady out. Still, I probably won't care too much about the money once I'm there,

Fastpiston
03-13-15, 03:11
AC seemed delightfully uncrowded for what is supposed to be a busy time. I could walk, not creep, on Walking Street. I didn't always return to my room with homicidal thoughts about idiots there. I think some of this is because I just came from BKK and my very unscientific survey determined that far more people there were having their brains sucked out by mobile devices as they walked, so AC was a refreshing change. Mobile devices: Taking the "Mobile" out of mobility since the early 2000's. The crowding exception was when a tour bus would disgorge a few dozen guys who most likely had rice and fish for breakfast.

I visited about half a dozen bars. Generally the girl quality was pretty poor, but this is not that uncommon. Most places have the Elite bars, the Average Bars, and the God This Is Awful. You'd Better Be Able To Get Blown Under The Table bars. AC has a few of the Elites I spent a lot of time at Atlantis and was quite impressed, and a whole lot of the other two, but take-away beats a BJ under the table, so I guess that is not that bad, especially if you drink. Drink a lot.

It's a tough call but I think looks-wise the AC bars' girls have a slight edge over the BKK ones, but it isn't really a fair comparison between the countries themselves: It is more an entire country (PI) versus a region (Issan). The Pinays seem to have just a little more in the way of butts and a LOT less in the way of tattoos. If I wanted to have sex with an art object, I'd go to a port and bend over a sailor.

I've never seen a tat that improved the looks of the wearer unless it was there to distract one from the fact she had, say, an anus where an eye should be. Besides detracting from the girl's appearance there is a more insidious danger: In the sadly non-nude world of AC dancing one cannot fully examine the Girlfriend of the Night until unwrapping time comes in the room, so one has no idea what other tats she might have. It's bad enough that we already have to quiz them in the bar about procedures, e. G. , BBJ, CIM, rimming, domesticated animals, etc. , but at a minimum tat girls need the additional question, "Do you have Justin Bieber's face tattooed on a butt cheek?" Unless that is a turn on for you. I'm not being judgmental here: I'll grant that yes, slapping the ever-loving shit out of Justin Bieber's face does have a certain attraction, but not enough to compensate for the years of therapy I'd need after finding it there.

So that is a plus for the Pinays. On the down side there is the screaming. Yes, Thai girls can scream, too, like when Justin is getting slapped around. And yes, Thai bars have those f*cking ping pong balls for them to scramble after. But most multi-story Thai bars have dance floors on each floor. In Angeles the multi-story bars have just the main dance area with maybe a few satellites, but balconies overlooking the main. Balconies which, ahem, SCREAM for balls, bills, or Bieber* (* not yet, but I hope someone is working on it) to be tossed. The resultant screaming can best be described as sitting one row ahead of a family with two year old sextuplets in economy on a transpacific flight. For extra realism the parents should be poking the little bastards with cattle prods.

To carry the air travel analogy farther, I try to find a seat against the wall, much as one might seek a seat in front of a bulkhead in a plane to avoid the sextuplets' kicking. In the bar case it is to try to thwart the massage girls. There are now dedicated (not in the "hard working" connotation) massage girls roaming some bars. Not to insult the intelligence of the bar owners, but did they just do a cursory reading of the Thailand ISG forum, spot three different massage parlor threads and assume, "Punters really, really dig neck and shoulder massages"?

As you've probably guessed, I like massages about as much as I like tattoos, maybe less because one can always just close one's eyes with the latter. And the girls are persistent: At least half the time it takes two "No's", maybe even a twist to get away from them.

If this narrative sounds a little angry, blame it on Cathay Pacific. I'm now in a car heading for Pattaya after filing the appropriate paperwork at Suvarnabhumi so that maybe they can find my luggage before I head home in a week. Also, they had two menu choices in business class: Something with mushrooms and some noodles. No fungi for me, thank you! Oh, they only loaded the fungus breakfast! But I have to say that they aim to please: They hunted down an omelet from somewhere. Maybe the pilot went hungry. So did I: It was a mushroom omelet.I think you will find that AC does not represent the Whole of Philippines. Most in AC come from SAMAR.

So the story is AC SAMAR; BKK ISSAN.

Fastpiston
03-13-15, 03:13
CX catering from the Philippines is dismal. I always pre-order the Indian vegetarian.The Philippines is not a priority destination for any foreign airline. You did well to order Indian. Smart.

Fastpiston
03-13-15, 03:23
I don't eat salads in the Philippines either: ever! The problem is the water used to irrigate the fields; it's often polluted. As much as I'd like to eat better in the Phils, I usually stick to the fast food places like Jollibees and McDos because their food quality standards are higher, and to date, I've not ever gotten food poisoning at the well known fast food franchises.If you go to a restaurant and you see a dirty guest washbasin with no soap, then you know what the staff have on their hands. Common sense.

Dg8787
03-13-15, 03:36
I believe they use toothpaste as protection from getting STD.Then I will use it as lube to keep me protected.

Dg8787
03-13-15, 04:15
I use the same suitcase with the same set of clothes with the same set of toiletries for my travel to Phils. On my first day home after plenty of sleep on the plane, I restock my toiletry bag, machine wash and dry all my clothes, repack and am ready roll again. More importantly I laundry machine wash my sneakers with a little bleach to kill anything that may have attached itself.

Oosik
03-13-15, 04:17
Aha! So it WAS a fair fight! My bad! The only girl who told me where she was from that I could understand was from Cebu. But a couple weeks ago I was chatting with a girl from Chiang Mai at The Dollhouse in Bangkok, so I must somehow target the outliers.


I think you will find that AC does not represent the Whole of Philippines. Most in AC come from SAMAR.

So the story is AC SAMAR; BKK ISSAN.

Dg8787
03-13-15, 04:25
I think you will find that AC does not represent the Whole of Philippines. Most in AC come from SAMAR.

So the story is AC SAMAR; BKK ISSAN.A graph or even a pie chart would be more helpful than long reports.

Oosik
03-13-15, 05:12
Thanks for the advice. As mentioned in the post, I had already left, been through Bangkok, and was on my way to Pattaya.

I certainly didn't have a horrible time. A horrible time is back at home wanking. No, that would be a very, very bad time. A horrible time would be back at home having lost both hands through a bad wood-chipping experience. Could I have enjoyed myself more elsewhere? Certainly, but that is one reason I made several references to my preferences and priorities. You are clearly into GFE. You raved about it in a previous post. I am not. If, God forbid, there are others out there like me, what you find useless could save them from being choked by bands of marauding girls like Koreans.


I would have to say you wrote a lot about nothing. Leave AC and go back to Bangkok. It sounds like you had a horrible time there. I enjoyed myself there and will return soon.

Mogwai
03-13-15, 07:36
When I return to AC, I want to save some money on my food, though I won't eat crazy, I want a safe good meal. I went to the Margarita Bar for Breakfast one morning, it cost over $300 pesos, I did like the fact I could get wheat toast. But they took so long for the order to come and the eggs tasted like they put sugar in them. Went to Philly's one day, it was over $300. Then I noticed, Philly's had a $110 peso breakfast. 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes. Not bad for a breakfast. I paid like 30 peso for another egg. I like a western breakfast as oppossed to Jolibies. Another thing, I find getting veggies in the Phils is not common. I did try salad once. Never will I do that again, I got the runs and didn't end until I came home 2 weeks later and my Dr prescribed Cirpro, fixed it almost with the 1st pill. No more salads for me. I dlike Jollibees, but not too much fried food for me... I will be there for a week the next visit, so I want to eat some decent meals. I will eat some qucik noodles some days for lunch and then decent dinner. I want to only spend $20 USD a day unless I feed my girl for the time.If you spent over 300 P at Margarita Station (I suppose you meant Margarita Station instead of Margarita Bar) then you had one of the larger breakfast sets. The 2 pieces of white toast, one egg and potatoes that you had at Philly's for 110 P will be about the same price in Margarita Station. Could be a little more or less. Throw in a cup of coffee for 37 P and a little tip for the waitress and you're looking at 170 P approximately. OK, let's round it up to 200 P for breakfast.

Now let me see, 20 USD is about 900 P these days. So you'll have 700 P left after breakfast.
You say you will eat some quick noodles some days for lunch and then you want to have a decent dinner. I don't know exactly what you mean with 'quick noodles' (from the 7/11? From a street stall? A simple cheap meal at a restaurant?) but let's say you spent another 200 P on that, including one drink.

Then you have 500 P left for dinner. You want a decent dinner so I suggest you go to Swiss Chalet. You can have a good meal there for about 400 to 500 P, including one drink.
Another option is the restaurant of the Pacific Breeze hotel. Also quite decent food for reasonable prices.

If you want to have a decent lunch AND dinner then I'm afraid 20 USD a day is not enough. Unless you wander to more remote locations maybe but I have no experience with that.

Getting veggies in the Phils is indeed a problem. Swiss Chalet has a salad bar (so far I never got sick from it) and they have a Thai fried rice dish with lots of veggies for example.
Most of the time if you order a dish with vegetables you get canned vegetables and not that much. I try to compensate by eating fruit and drinking fruit juices.

Mogwai
03-13-15, 07:55
By the way, a few nights ago I had two of my regulars visiting me. After our session they were hungry and they asked for 100 P to get some food. They said they only had some coins left in their pockets, yeah right LOL!
They went out and came back about half an hour later with 2 rice meals for them (rice, some kind of sausages, maybe a little bit vegetables) and 2 pieces of bread plus 2 pieces of rice cake for me that they picked up at a bakery. I didn't ask for it but that doesn't matter.
They said they bought the rice meals somewhere near Margarita Station, a 10 minute walk from my hotel.

I haven't asked it but I presume they didn't spend more than those 100 P I gave them.
So it can be dirt cheap but I wouldn't recommend it. I doubt that it was good quality food.

Mogwai
03-13-15, 08:03
I believe they use toothpaste as protection from getting STD.


Then I will use it as lube to keep me protected.I've heard that KY protects from getting dental caries....

Mogwai
03-13-15, 08:19
Bro you crack me up, you probably spend over a grand on airfare and you're worried about saving 5 dollars a day on food?Maybe the 'over a grand on airfare' is exactly the reason he has to save some money on other expenses.
We all have a certain budget and we all have to make choices on how to spend that budget. So don't judge anyone who wants to save money.

It adds up pretty quickly if you don't pay attention to it:

Oh, this hotel room is only 200 P more expensive than the other one and it's 5 minutes closer to the action so I book it.
The bar fine for that gorgeous girl is only 500 P more than for the other girls so I take her.
A double lady drink is only 150 P more than a normal lady drink so what the heck.
Etcetera etcetera.

Uncle Volodya
03-13-15, 10:02
So that was it: A no-hitter in Angeles. .....
All of which makes it pretty weird that I will most likely be back in a year if not sooner. As I wrote: Like a bug to a bug-zapper.Wow! That has to be the best damned report ever written where the author did not get laid. LOL. You had me in stiches at times.

Keep up the good work my friend. But please have better luck finding a bed mate.

And stay horny.

Uncle-V.

X Man
03-13-15, 11:40
Interesting. Recently I did something vaguely similar. It's winter here in X land, so summer clothes get packed away. I put some of my Philippine kit (summer clothes) into the suitcase since I knew that I'll be in the islands before it gets warm in X land.

Usually I rely on lists. What to take, hotel info, "little black book information", etc. I'm thinking this should be in the General info thread.


I use the same suitcase with the same set of clothes with the same set of toiletries for my travel to Phils. On my first day home after plenty of sleep on the plane, I restock my toiletry bag, machine wash and dry all my clothes, repack and am ready roll again. More importantly I laundry machine wash my sneakers with a little bleach to kill anything that may have attached itself.

Mogwai
03-13-15, 13:18
I summed up my issues some posts ago: Convenience and PSE. Maybe I'm misunderstanding some of Mogwai's suggestions, but I want it to be quite clear at the outset that this is sex. Period. If a mall hottie or an online profile says "Will f*ck for pesos", I might take a nibble. No, maybe it had better say something a lot more exciting than just f*ck. The thrill of the chase is lost on me, and I'm not going to utter one word of BS to woo a sweet young thing into bed or the stocks or whatever. Not only do I not seek GFE, I don't want GFE.

All of which makes it pretty weird that I will most likely be back in a year if not sooner. As I wrote: Like a bug to a bug-zapper.If you don't want GFE then what the heck were you doing in the Phils, LOL? It's the no. 1 destination for GFE. It's not a destination for PSE although you CAN have steaming sex with a Pinay if she's really into you and if you hit the right buttons.

But anyway, since you will come back here nevertheless (and I can understand that, this place is irresistable) I suggest you setup some chat app accounts and make clear what you're looking for. Don't use dating sites like DIA if you're looking for PSE because your account will be blocked pretty quickly.

In WeChat, for example, all you have to do is write a catchy line for the so-called 'What's Up' field. Since your writing skills are above average (understatement) I think that won't be much of a problem for you. Don't be too specific though, that won't work. But make clear somehow that you're looking for (very) naughty fun. I can't really help you with that without giving away my own catchy line. I can only tell you that humour works, which is no problem for you either.

Upload a couple of pictures and your done. Use pictures that you've not used elsewhere on the net, like in Facebook for example, or use pictures of a bloke who looks like you.
And then sit back, relax and wait. There's no need to search for profiles that say "Will f*ck for pesos" or something similar. There are not that many girls here who say that in their profile anyway, LOL!

After some time, say 2 or 3 days, you will already have more responses than you can fuck / handle. Most of the respondents know damn well what you're looking for so it won't take much effort to get them to your hotel. I usually chat with them for 10 or 20 minutes at the most.

You should really try it. Conveniently from your hotel room. Have fun!

ThatGuy865
03-13-15, 15:11
To be economical, I will some times by one of the rotisserie chickens they cook on fields.

A whole chicken is 170 p, I have eaten them on every trip and never have been sick.

Some complain, if you get one from the side of the road on MacArthur Hwy some times they have dust / debris that is kicked up.

The one on fields (walking street) has a plastic shield to protect against the dust / debris so I tend to go there.

You can then stop at any local's canteen and buy an order of cooked rice - 10 p. This is one thing they know how to cook well.

Often I order a veggie dish from certain canteens. Those which I know have a high local turnover and the food is basically cook to order.

The little local canteen around the corner from Sky Traxx cooks chop suey for 50 p. And some on fields that have high BG traffic.

The chicken serves two meals (lunch + dinner) or feeding you and guest.

So chicken 170 p + (2 rice at 10 p) 20 p + (2 veggie dishes at 50 p) 100 p. Total under 300 p for 2 meals.

This is especially great when hosting pinay's. Its like comfort food for them.

The other option I find for reasonable prices is Korean resto's. Oppa on Fields gives a lot of food for the price.

In Korean style they bring several small dishes of various veggies / potatoes before the main entree making for a filling meal.

I see many BG's eating there (paying, not on date), so that can give you an idea of the price level.

Oosik
03-13-15, 17:45
If you don't want GFE then what the heck were you doing in the Phils, LOL?Like you say, it is irresistible. I go over there to go to Corregidor and nothing can make a guy hornier than big f*cking guns and getting facials from bats in the tunnels. I need relief fast! Then it becomes an addictive spiral. Shorter Corregidor visits, more Angeles. This time was a double no-hitter: Not only no boom-boom in AC, but I did not actually even go to Corregidor.


I suggest you setup some chat app accounts and make clear what you're looking for.Okay, thanks. I was afraid that these sites were very much "Social" and you had to sort of tiptoe around the elephant in the room. Disclaimer: I've never actually done an elephant. But the WeChat thing could work. The big rub is that I assume that by chat you really mean use the keyboard. Not my strongest point, especially if one hand is kind of busy. Must learn discipline or get a voice recognition program.


Upload a couple of pictures and your done. Use pictures that you've not used elsewhere on the net, like in Facebook for example, or use pictures of a bloke who looks like you.As I don't do that Facebook stuff my pictures are as far as I know not riding the waves of the 'Net. It frightens me to think I could find a bloke that looks like me, so I guess it will be selfie time. Oh, the shame!

Thanks again. I'll have something to stew over for the next six months to a year.

Dg8787
03-13-15, 18:45
If you don't want GFE then what the heck were you doing in the Phils, LOL? It's the no. 1 destination for GFE. It's not a destination for PSE although you CAN have steaming sex with a Pinay if she's really into you and if you hit the right buttons.

But anyway, since you will come back here nevertheless (and I can understand that, this place is irresistable) I suggest you setup some chat app accounts and make clear what you're looking for. Don't use dating sites like DIA if you're looking for PSE because your account will be blocked pretty quickly.

In WeChat, for example, all you have to do is write a catchy line for the so-called 'What's Up' field. Since your writing skills are above average (understatement) I think that won't be much of a problem for you. Don't be too specific though, that won't work. But make clear somehow that you're looking for (very) naughty fun. I can't really help you with that without giving away my own catchy line. I can only tell you that humour works, which is no problem for you either.

Upload a couple of pictures and your done. Use pictures that you've not used elsewhere on the net, like in Facebook for example, or use pictures of a bloke who looks like you.
And then sit back, relax and wait. There's no need to search for profiles that say "Will f*ck for pesos" or something similar. There are not that many girls here who say that in their profile anyway, LOL!

After some time, say 2 or 3 days, you will already have more responses than you can fuck / handle. Most of the respondents know damn well what you're looking for so it won't take much effort to get them to your hotel. I usually chat with them for 10 or 20 minutes at the most.

You should really try it. Conveniently from your hotel room. Have fun!After all was said and done. More was said than done!

RumBuddy
03-13-15, 22:59
I saw the Mall, everyday in AC. I look out my hotel window, there it is, I walk down the street, there it is, never went there. I keep hearing that it might be a decent place to meet some lovelies. Please expand with your thoughts. I never tried to meet anyone on the street although there were many flirtling eyes. I only had 2 full days on the ground. So, I concentrated on the Bars. 7 days on the ground this time, I may experiment a little more. I want o try Blow road, but I worry about STD more from them although I know I can catch them anywhere. Looking forward to being there again.

RumBuddy
03-13-15, 23:03
After all was said and done. More was said than done!Arrived in town 10 pm on Sunday night. Hit one. Next day Monday, hit 3.

Next day Tues., hit 2, both repeats, one just awesome repeat. Next half day met one took her to manila with me. So I had 7 encounters in little more than 2 days. Didn't understand what dude was doing there.

Dg8787
03-14-15, 02:54
I saw the Mall, everyday in AC. I look out my hotel window, there it is, I walk down the street, there it is, never went there. I keep hearing that it might be a decent place to meet some lovelies. Please expand with your thoughts. I never tried to meet anyone on the street although there were many flirtling eyes. I only had 2 full days on the ground. So, I concentrated on the Bars. 7 days on the ground this time, I may experiment a little more. I want o try Blow road, but I worry about STD more from them although I know I can catch them anywhere. Looking forward to being there again.I have been to SM Mall almost every other day that I am in AC. There are a number of restaurants and a food court for your dining pleasure. Also I like to get my walking in without the chuckholes and pollution of Fields Avenue. The scenery is pretty dang good, especially on the weekends. Seems like on the weekdays you see the old fat men walking around with their young slim things in their 6" stilettos. Not so much on the weekends when most families are there. On the weekends there are plenty of civilian eye candy walking around. But I doubt if they are in the game. I have yet to see someone pick up on a civilian or sales clerk. A younger blue eyed person might have a chance if the girl thought it was for a long term relationship.

On my first trip there 2 years ago I did catch the eye of a 19 yo walking around the mall. She was nervous to talk to me in front of the crowd so she gave me her cell number. We texted each other while we were in the mall. Later on she came to my hotel room. She was beautiful but inexperienced laying there. She got wetter than hell as I was grinding her while she was stifling her moans. It got to be a game for me to see if I could get her to moan out loud as she laid there taking it, but she never did. I sent her home after that. Can't remember how much. But I have never seen any FL around the mall and that was the only time I have ever picked up a girl there.

Much better off hunting in the bars for time and money.

Mogwai
03-14-15, 04:03
I saw the Mall, everyday in AC. I look out my hotel window, there it is, I walk down the street, there it is, never went there. I keep hearing that it might be a decent place to meet some lovelies. Please expand with your thoughts.


But I have never seen any FL around the mall and that was the only time I have ever picked up a girl there.I don't go there very often because I hardly ever need anything and I hate shopping but last year I saw two FL's in the small coffee bar right after the main entrance. They were nothing to write home about though. But apart from those two I've never seen FL's walking around there.

I've been there a couple of times last year and this year because I needed new sandals and some new clothes. Some of the sales ladies were definitely interested in me.
"Are you married?" or "Where is your wife?" Questions like that.
I think I could have gotten a few phone numbers but I didn't really feel at ease to flirt with these girls with all the other customers around.

But I think if you like shopping and you're not too shy it's fairly easy to score there.

Oosik
03-14-15, 04:30
A younger blue eyed person might have a chance if the girl thought it was for a long term relationship.It's not just the young and attractive: I'm neither and I'm pretty sure that, like Mogwai, I've been targeted. The most obvious was a sales clerk at a phone kiosk at Robinson's in Manila. It sounded like right out of a bar: Married? How long in the Philippines? In that case the extra bait may have been that I was looking specifically for a prepaid SIM that would last longer than a year, so she could see a long term relationship possibility. Very cute, too! The Manila thread has quite a few posts on the matter.

Mr Enternational
03-14-15, 04:45
I'm a Black guy so my eyes are far from blue. But my first time in AC I picked up the girl at the teddy bear kiosk in the middle of the mall. It's not rocket science. They are normal women.

Mogwai
03-14-15, 08:28
20 yo ex sales lady from Manila, currently residing in Angeles.
The first time she came to me she told me I had not been chatting with her but with her 23 yo sister who works in a bar on Fields. "My sister sold me!" she said quasi angry. Thank you sis for sending me this beautiful angel!

She was very nervous so I took it easy and we chatted for about one hour. She was sweet, had a good sense of humour and spoke very good English.
After one hour 'sex' or anything in that direction had not been mentioned and we were still sitting one meter apart from each other. It was getting uncomfortable so I had to force a 'breakthrough' somehow. I said 'Do you want to shower?' and she said 'yes' and got up right away. Okay, I didn't expect it would be that easy, LOL!
A couple of days later, when she visited me for the second time, she said she didn't know what to do so she was very glad that I asked her if she wanted to shower.

After we both had showered we laid down on the bed. She was wrapped in a towel and was still wearing her bra and panties. She resisted a little bit when I removed the towel. What a beautiful body. Rock hard, no kids, yummy! I fondled her and kissed her on her cheeks, lips and neck. She giggled and resisted a little bit again when I tried to remove her bra. This girl was playing hard to get. But I was able to remove it and revealed her almost non existing breasts. She is very flat. 'Two peas on a plank' as we say in Holland.

When I started to suck on her nipples she moaned softly and from that moment on her resistance was almost broken. She likes that very much. She still struggled a little bit when I pulled down her panties and at first didn't want to spread her legs when I went down to DATY her, but pretty soon her legs were wide apart granting me full access to her slightly hairy sweet little pussy. And it was as fresh and clean as can be. A delight to DATY and she was delighted as well if I interpreted her moans correctly.

I penetrated her and her pussy felt wonderful. A good mix of wetness, tightness and smoothness. Not the best pussy I ever felt but it comes close. (A girl in Pattaya has the honour to have the best pussy I ever felt in my life, really incredible. Unfortunately you cannot marry a pussy without the rest of a girl).
After about 10 minutes I couldn't last any longer and dropped my load on her tight belly.

Five minutes after she left I got a text from her: 'Thanks a lot mr. --my name--. It feels good!
And the next morning she texted me again. She's a keeper.

Golfinho
03-14-15, 09:21
I have been to SM Mall almost every other day that I am in AC. There are a number of restaurants and a food court for your dining pleasure. Also I like to get my walking in.One man's idea of dining pleasure is another's fast garbage food. So easy to find girls and almost impossible to come across decent food in this town.

IllusionHeart
03-14-15, 14:32
20 yo ex sales lady from Manila, currently residing in Angeles.
The first time she came to me she told me I had not been chatting with her but with her 23 yo sister who works in a bar on Fields. "My sister sold me!" she said quasi angry. Thank you sis for sending me this beautiful angel!

Five minutes after she left I got a text from her: 'Thanks a lot mr. --my name--. It feels good!
And the next morning she texted me again. She's a keeper.Mogwai, any non pro is a keeper, hope she dosent realize her value for you soon and starts with her demand list, mobile, parents sick, no job, etc. Enjoy the joyride till it lasts.

I have not had much success with online apps especially location based apps in LOS. Hope things will change in Philippines. Your encounter inspires me to try these apps for few more trips.

Dg8787
03-14-15, 16:18
One man's idea of dining pleasure is another's fast garbage food. So easy to find girls and almost impossible to come across decent food in this town.There are a few nice restaurants around with better than decent food.

OTOH, if you have Champange taste on a SML budget then you won't find it. There are good places in the P350-500 range.

Psychman
03-14-15, 16:31
One man's idea of dining pleasure is another's fast garbage food. So easy to find girls and almost impossible to come across decent food in this town.So true; all the western food that most people eat while mongering makes me sick! AC has very, very good Korean food- at least 6 or 7 are outstanding.

RumBuddy
03-14-15, 17:32
So true; all the western food that most people eat while mongering makes me sick! AC has very, very good Korean food- at least 6 or 7 are outstanding.Are any of these restaurants near Fields?? Please share.

ConquerorVal
03-15-15, 02:11
Two weeks later, and all I have to show for it is some comments and accommodation reviews. Will need further detox and deep hypnosis before I recover enough to write a post. Meanwhile, feast on this little morsel.

RumBuddy
03-15-15, 02:43
Two weeks later, and all I have to show for it is some comments and accommodation reviews. Will need further detox and deep hypnosis before I recover enough to write a post. Meanwhile, feast on this little morsel.Is that hotel the ABC hotel?

ConquerorVal
03-15-15, 04:12
Is that hotel the ABC hotel?Yes, it is. It is the standard room, the cheapest option.

Psychman
03-15-15, 05:36
Are any of these restaurants near Fields?? Please share.Yeah, two, and sadly, I am having a brain fart about the names. If you are facing toward Macarthur Highway, sanding at Royal Amsterdam. There is one on the right hand side just passed the massage shop. The other is on the same side as the Amsterdam, and has a wood facade, just before you get to the alley street that has a few Korean bars (with Banana something, which was a fan bar a year ago, FYI).

There is also a 24 hour spot on about two blocks passed J. Js on the same side of the street, which is very solid. That is perhaps a 8 minute walk down walking street.

Mogwai
03-15-15, 07:13
Mogwai, any non pro is a keeper, hope she dosent realize her value for you soon and starts with her demand list, mobile, parents sick, no job, etc. Enjoy the joyride till it lasts.

I have not had much success with online apps especially location based apps in LOS. Hope things will change in Philippines. Your encounter inspires me to try these apps for few more trips.I wouldn't say that ANY non pro is a keeper (and how long will they be non pro anyway?) but they can be special, that's for sure.
So far the regulars I had in 10+ years in SEA, pro's and non pro's, never really had 'demand lists'. Occasionally one will ask for some change for transportation but that's about it. And I hardly ever go shopping with them or pamper them with gifts or fancy dinners.
They are not in the position to demand anything anyway, unless maybe when you are in love with one. Than you are vulnerable and an easy target. I've only been in love with a WG once, in Pattaya. But she was also in love with me and she didn't take advantage of me. And I terminated our contact pretty quick for personal reasons.

One of my regulars here in AC told me a few weeks ago she had to make a down payment for her new room but she was short on money. So I helped her out. That new room meant a lot to her. She had never asked me for anything before that time and she has never asked me for anything else after that time.
And another regular asked me if she could borrow 1000 Pesos. At first I said no but then I thought 'that's childish, she has never asked you for anything'. So I borrowed her the money and she paid me back by sleeping with me 'for free'.

I realize though that I'm getting more and more emotionally attached to some of my regulars. I'm not in love with any of them but I like them very much. And then it gets harder to decline money requests. It wouldn't surprise me if I get some requests for money once I'm back home again. Of course I can delete my WeChat account as that is the only way they can contact me, but I don't think I'll do that. I will have to deal with it somehow. Luckily my list of regulars is not that long.

Maxwell99
03-15-15, 08:36
Anybody had any luck with the date site durian treats?

IllusionHeart
03-15-15, 09:05
I wouldn't say that ANY non pro is a keeper (and how long will they be non pro anyway?) but they can be special, that's for sure.

Mogwai, I correct myself, non pros are a different and special experience and yes not all are keepers. I agree with your assessment of the girls and the situations as you seem to have developed excellent on ground experience. You recent posts are reflective of that.

I sure am inspired to try the non conventional MO in all of the locations in Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand. Especially mobile dating apps though haven't been lucky so far. Real challenge is that I never have time on ground for mall hunting or visit other social venues except pro places and hence minimum interaction or opportunity to encounter a non pro.

RumBuddy
03-15-15, 09:32
If you are facing toward Macarthur Highway, sanding at Royal Amsterdam. Can't say I know where the Amsterdam is. Near Walking street??

Oosik
03-15-15, 10:16
Can't say I know where the Amsterdam is. Near Walking street??On Walking Street.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hotel+Royal+Amsterdam/@15.1673748,120.5880236,19z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3396f277d59360ad:0x634ef3f0fb76f25

Too bad they don't have Street View: I'm between BJ's and I was going to go exploring using Psychman's directions.

JonChiang
03-15-15, 10:23
Can't say I know where the Amsterdam is. Near Walking street??You can find it on this map.

http://tomrich.sakura.ne.jp/angeles.html

That Korean restaurant is OPPA.

ThatGuy865
03-15-15, 13:50
I believe Pychman is talking about OPPA Korean restaurant. Its opposite Amsterdam Hotel.

Its a great meal for the price. Many BG's eat there, to give you an indication of the price level. And the food is excellent.

I eat there often.

RumBuddy
03-15-15, 15:50
You can find it on this map.

http://tomrich.sakura.ne.jp/angeles.html

That Korean restaurant is OPPA. JonChiang,This was is an AWESOME map of the entire area. I recognized most places. I have walked the entire area on Perimeter thru Fields during the day. Not that much of a walk, maybe a mile in total. I do know where Oppa is and I will look it up. I recommend Newbies to use this map if traveling to AC for the 1st time. Many of the bars on Perimeter Rd, start to open between 10 and 2. And open until about 10 pm - 12 am. The closer you get to Fields, the later they open, usually around 4 - 6 pm and stay open til the AM, some as later til 5am. I'm in my hotel pretty early with my girls... didn't travel to sit in a bar with a girl, traveling to be in the room with girl(s)Again great map, thanks

RumBuddy
03-15-15, 15:56
I believe Pychman is talking about OPPA Korean restaurant. Its opposite Amsterdam Hotel.

Its a great meal for the price. Many BG's eat there, to give you an indication of the price level. And the food is excellent.

I eat there often.I remember it now, I will check them out.

RumBuddy
03-15-15, 21:03
On Walking Street.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hotel+Royal+Amsterdam/@15.1673748,120.5880236,19z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3396f277d59360ad:0x634ef3f0fb76f25

Too bad they don't have Street View: I'm between BJ's and I was going to go exploring using Psychman's directions.I see this map was even better. I guess Google is your friend everywhere.

Robbaf
03-16-15, 01:29
Been in town for four days and have to say it is a great place to be. Lots of bar hopping and a lot of girls eager to go out.

Robb.

Member #4584
03-16-15, 05:00
I am one of many who never post on this forum but uses its great knowledge for my upcoming adventures. I felt it was time to deliver my one and only FR (haha field report. I know the lingo).

Before I begin I just want to say that out of all the threads I've read and taken advice from, the Philippines is the best. I especially love how its regulated. I mean, how dumb do you have to be to chitchat but not include a pic in the photo gallery?? Especially when there's a separate thread for photo chitchat smh. I hate when people do that! LOL. I shan't post my own pics guys. I'm sorry.

This is my story.

I only spent two days in AC (yes I know, a very short time), and I must say I had an amazing time! If only all the world were as marvelous as this one city, things might not be so bad. I was supposed to have 3 days but a flight delay changed that. Things out of my control I do not get upset about.

OK. So I arrived in Manila around 1:30 am. Walked out of the airport to a guy hailing taxis for people. Thanks to this site I was aware of appropriate pricing to get to AC. I didn't want to take a bus or anything like that. I wanted the straight and direct route. Anyway, the man hails a big van and tells me its 7500 php. I laughed in his face and attempted to walk off. He begged me to stay. Lowering the price. And lowering the price. And lowering the price. Until he went to 3000 php. Which, I think, is pretty standard. (ABC charges 3600 php).

There was no traffic at this time of night. I mean none. No construction. No nothing.

Arrived at my hotel. Apollonia Royale. Took about 115 min. Dead tired from a 26 hour travel. I so badly wanted to walk around but instead fell asleep on my bed. I suppose this is a good time to talk about Apollonia. Nothing fancy. I got the deluxe room off a hotel search engine website (LOL) for I believe about $38 usd. Not bad right. Two free bottles of water. Restaurant on site that I did not visit. Seemed decent though. No pool. And hotel is located near everything. 10 min standard walk to the walking street area of fields. I walk fast, as I love to walk so it took me about 7 min.

Woke up around 7:30 am. Told myself I will get my day started at 8 am. And so I did. Took a shower. Got dressed. Walked to the McDonalds at the end of walking street. Got a #2 for 108 php. Say What I liked this place already LOL. By the time I finished eating it was about 9:30 am. The walk to McDonalds gave me an opportunity to see walking street and the countless bars. On the way back from McDonalds I walked down Raymond st and Burgos to see what was what.

Walking back down Teodoro St to my hotel I was approached by a woman offering massages out of Body Bliss Spa. Price was 300 php so I said "why not". Girl was cute. About a 7. Massage was good. I'd give it an 8. At the end she offered a he for 1000 php total. I said no thanks. Brought it down to 800 php and I relented. He was standard. But hey, I figured, got to get that quick one out so you can last with the others LOL. When I walked out I saw the cutest girl from another parlor across the street. So so cute. She asked why I didn't go see her and get a massage. I said "maybe tomorrow" to her delight. More on her later.

Went back to my room and took another shower to get the oil off me LOL. Spent more time walking around. I love walking so I walked up and down fields for a good hour. Came back to the room and took a nap. I had a game plan. Bang one chick for ST, send her packing, then find another one and bang for LT. My plan fell through LOL. Matter of fact, my plans fell through both days LOL. More on that later.

Around 4:30 pm I walked down to Raymond St. Or was it Burgos. Idk. Whichever has the BJ bars. I walked into the bar and grabbed a beer. Don't remember the exact cost of beers there. They range from 55 php to 70 php. For a San Miguel Light at least. Anyway I sat down and after about 5 min the woman who served me the beer sat down beside me. We were just conversing for a good 30 min. About a 7. 5 on the looker scale. But she was really nice. (Side note: The women I had were all petite and fit-bodied. I don't want to describe each woman to the T. That's tedious and I'm already typing a lot. Oh and like 90% of the women they were 5'1" and under LOL). I bought her a single lady drink. (Don't buy doubles unless you want to). Her drink I believe was 100 php. She had two. I had 3 LOL. After a delightful chat I asked her what it would take to get her out of here. She said "800 php". I asked whether that was short time or long time. She said short. Long was 1200 php. (Yikes! From reading the forum I knew the off roads and further down fields was cheaper than walking st. But this much cheaper? Awesome!) Short time was for 3 hours. I was sticking to my plan. So far. Took her back to the telly and hit it twice. She made me wonder whether TV's are as accessible there because between sessions she seemed really into the television LOL. I also wondered how hard she worked because we fell asleep after the first round too. Now it was 9 pm and time for her to go. I'd grown to like her. (Not in a "I'm in love" kinda way, but a "you're a really cool person" kinda way. I told her I'd be back for her tomorrow. I took her to Jollibee (a local favorite) bought her some food (170 php) and paid for her trike (50 php). I walked back to Apollonia only to realize that this wonderful woman took the life out of me. I went to sleep from 9:45 pm to 7:30 am LOL. Damn.

Lots of catcalling on fields at night. From girls. From beggars. From dudes LOL. I didn't so much as walk into a single bar on walking street. Even though I had every intention to. I found that quite odd.

The next day was my last day. So I had to make it count. Not to say I didn't make the previous day count. I did. But I really wanted to "turn up" on my last day. Standard routine as the day before. Got up, shower, ate. Blah blah. Walking back to the hotel I saw the massage girl from yesterday. She squealed with joy when I agreed to a massage (300 php. Don't know the name of the place. Across from Body Bliss Spa). Massage was great as close to a 10 as you can get. Except. No extras. Awwww. What a waste right. ? WRONG. Afterward I tipped her 200 php for the great job she did. She took me outside and started to laugh and giggle with her friend saying she made a new friend. I told her I wanted to see her later. She told me she got off at 7 pm and gave me her number. Told me to call.

So. I leave, got back to the hotel, took a shower to get the oil off. Again. LOL. I switched hotels and went to the ABC for a night. Awesome hotel. I don't think I need to review it. If you can stay there just do it. You won't regret it. After getting settled in the new digs I walked down to the perimeter bars. Walked in about 3 and left. Wasn't feeling the vibe. Then I walked into The Drillshack. Told the mamason (or however the hell you spell it) I wanted 2 girls. She immediately grabbed two to sit with me. One was freaking hot! A solid 9. The other, about a 7. 5. I got drunk as sh* Had like 6 beers in an hour time frame. An older women, I believe was also a mamasan (whatever) joined and was telling the other two girls she thought I was sexy. I told her she could join. The more the merrier LOL. The older woman looked like Mason Strom the pornstar. And I LOVE Mason Storm the pornstar. So. I bought 5 rounds of lady drinks for 3 women on top of the beers I had LOL. It was awesome. Oh. , the lady drinks were 100 php each. Price to take all 3 out of there was 4500 php or 1500 php each (duh). Took a trike back to ABC. Trike man charged me 200 php, and I gave him a 50 php tip. So I had my four way. A tad overrated but it was a nice experience. Girls were nice. Very sexy. Blah blah blah.

Kinda gave the hint that I wanted them to leave. By this time about 4 hours had passed and I wanted to see my BJ bar girl and my massage girl. So, I tipped them 1000 php total and the 3 left. I walked to the BJ bar only to find my girl had left for the day There were lots of other sexy women in there. But I only wanted her. After about 2 hours I called my massage girl. She said she'd be over at 9. I took a very quick nap and by 9:30 pm she was at the telly. She was so cute! After some small talk we danced to some music and began to make out. Eventually leading to sex. It was great. Very sexy. Blah blah blah. Afterward we walked around fields. I took her to the Golden Arches where she took an assortment of photos of us together. After a while I was sick of posing with her. We walked back to ABC and had sex once more. She never once asked for money from me. It was incredible. Of course, because I'm not a complete dick, I gave her a little something for her troubles before she left. I got her email and skype info. She's attempted to contact me since I've been back in the States. But I keep missing it. I actually would like to keep in touch with her. (No. I'm not falling in love. No simp behavior here. If you don't know what a simp is feel free to urban dictionary it.) Called up my taxi man who brought me to AC and went back to MNL, no traffic, took about 90 min (3000 php).

(as I type this she's texting me LOL).

That is my story.

Stray observations:

Food is very inexpensive.

Lots of beggars and sellers on the street. Gets very annoying very quickly. I had one little girl follow me for at least a quarter mile begging for money LOL. I didn't relent. Although I did give away about 150 usd in non-BF tips on beggars and misc tips in total.

I honestly wanted to buy a pack of cialis. If only to see if it was legit LOL. But seriously man, those guys will not cease with the merchandise hawking LOL.

The relatively young vs. the relatively old.

I'd say if the guy was 40 years and younger, he showed me love (Spoke. Said Hello,. Head nod. Etc) And if the guy was 40+, his demeanor was that of a cantankerous old coot coping with senility. I mean geez. Now. Granted. I don't think it's a big deal if people don't speak. But in the words of the great philosopher Marshawn Lynch, You know why I'm here. You know why I came to AC. And if you know why I'm here, have a pleasantry about yourself LOL. The younger guys were kind enough to give me advice and just be generally warm welcoming. But the older gentlemen. I didn't get that vibe at all. Perhaps this is just the behavior that comes as we get older. I sure hope it isn't.

I can understand why guys fall so deeply in love with these women. I advise against it. But I understand. They are angels it seems. But again, I am strongly against simp behavior.

Sorry guys. No pics. I mean I took pics. But I don't want to share. I feel weird. My apologies. Something about the privacy of the women. And I don't feel like cropping and editing.

OK guys. It is highly unlikely that I will ever post again. (Unless someone has a pertinent question) If you liked this post or absolutely hated it. It doesn't mater. But thank you for your time. I hope I was of some assistance to upcoming travelers.

Poopbunny
03-16-15, 09:25
Anyone know a good BBQ restaurant in Angeles with a grill on your table (preferably charcoal) where you grill you own meats.

I imagine with so many Koreans around it should be popular.

Thanks.

Hutsori
03-16-15, 17:31
I felt it was time to deliver my one and only FR (haha field report. I know the lingo).

Great first FR. Well done.

You flew half-way round the world for what became two days. I think this is the one case where shabu use is permissible under law.

Roll Aides
03-16-15, 23:45
The relatively young vs. the relatively old.

I'd say if the guy was 40 years and younger, he showed me love (Spoke. Said Hello,. Head nod. Etc) And if the guy was 40+, his demeanor was that of a cantankerous old coot coping with senility. I mean geez. Now. Granted. I don't think it's a big deal if people don't speak. But in the words of the great philosopher Marshawn Lynch, You know why I'm here. You know why I came to AC. And if you know why I'm here, have a pleasantry about yourself LOL. The younger guys were kind enough to give me advice and just be generally warm welcoming. But the older gentlemen. I didn't get that vibe at all. Perhaps this is just the behavior that comes as we get older. I sure hope it isn't..Thanks for the interesting FR. I can shed a little light on the old guy behavior. A big part of Filipino personality and culture, is they are "shy. " This is the English word they use for it, it doesn't really mean the same thing as a native English speaker would refer to by that word; it can mean a number of things, including self-conscious or embarrassed, or not wanting to look bad.

The way that this manifests in older Pinoys, is if they don't speak English well, (often the older folks don't) they are "shy" to speak to foreigners. For the guys, this means basically ignoring you and pretending you don't exist, to cover, with kind of a macho attitude. They aren't actually bad guys, that's just the way they deal with it. It doesn't really have to do with age, or whether you are here to monger.

ConquerorVal
03-17-15, 02:01
CV,
1. First you need to learn it is all about the money with these girls!
2. You broke the first rule of mongering. . . . you took the same girl for 3 consecutive nights.
ABBY.As always, dear Abby you have given the right advice, and I will definitely stick to the above suggestions. I also have to thank Sxxx for his sage advice and huge thank you to Master Monger who kept me busy mongering on a level I have not performed at before. This prevented me from spending longer time with my first Pinay, who turned out to be quite a sensation on the internet. I have found four porn videos of her happily getting her pussy creamed. She told me she started using the web cam when she was 17 years old. Most videos date to 2012 when she was 18 years old. It is a strange feeling when you see someone on the internet getting fucked who you just did couple or so weeks ago. I liked her so I feel a little a bit ambivalent about it. I assume much of everything she told me were lies. Like on the first day she told me she lost her phone and rang her number which kept on ringing. Perhaps she left it on the jeepney she said?! Also, the ease of taking her photos and constantly posing in front of the mirrors made me wonder and check out the internet when I got home. It is a good thing I took people's advice and had MM's company to keep me away from her. If I would spend longer time with her I think I would have felt somewhat vulnerable. Definitely a good learning experience. Can't wait to return to AC, next year. This time skip Thailand and stay longer in this wonderful place.
The last thing she texted me was not to bother her again, which was because I did not contact her the last couple of days in AC, due to spending time with MM and all the lovelies he surrounded us with. I cannot say enough good things about MM and hope to meet up with him next year. I send a message via Facebook to to my prima pinay, but no response with regards to the porn movies, and she arranged her account in such a way that I cannot even befriend her.

ConquerorVal
03-17-15, 02:18
I am working my way backwards with my report as the most recent memories have started to return. This is my last Pinay I had in AC. Master Monger took me on a bike ride to show me some of the parts of the city I have not seen, and ended up checking bars like Candy and XXX where I picked up this girl. MM was incredible, entertaining and patient taking me around the bars so I could pick a girl to spend my last night with. I chose this girl because she looked more exotic, almost Indian and had a nice body and a smile. Her service was good and she had a pleasant personality. After the first round we went to Insomnia to return a bottle of wine to the girl I barfined the day before and got it as a price (not sure why-more on her later). Did not feel like going to the bars in the evening, as the next day I was heading to Pattaya. Ended the evening ordering food in and watching Pinay movies. Had another round with her, and retired. In the morning as I was packing and getting ready, I asked her how often she gets barfined. She said everyday she works but takes time off to spend with her nephew / niece? She does look exotic, and of course I did forget her stage name. When I brought her into the hotel there was a guest in the lobby talking to the staff and, he literally stopped in mid sentence and checked out and stared at my date :) She is not stunning but does have a nice face and lovely skin colour. I would likely repeat with her on my return to AC.

Poopbunny
03-17-15, 06:51
Was at PonyTails for my usual late breakfast (SML & popcorn). Girl I had taken out once before (had a great time) this time was accompanied with her friend. I wanted to take her out but had no interest in her friend.

I am not into threesomes and once experienced it only because the friend of the girl I wanted had a tongue stud (my weakness). Although I had a great time, threesomes are not something I actively seek.

Anyway I bought both of them a drink, as a goodwill gesture and to see if I could negotiate to just take the girl I wanted. It was a bad mistake as they just started talking Tagalog to each other. They did not want to be separated and I did not find her friend attractive at all. There were quite a few customers sitting by themselves, so suggested her friend find her own BF. At the end I just walked. I was not putting up with it and looks the a bunch of Koreans before me did not bite either.

If she really wanted to help her friend she could easily go with just me, get paid and give some $ to her friend. Now she ends up with nothing. If she wanted, after the ST she has with me, go back to the bar and pull the same shit with someone else.

Had a prefect steak at Swiss Chalet today and witnessed a staff squabble. The security guard broke up the fight and some of the other staff had to hold the waitress back. I guess the security is there to protect staff from each other, not the customers. LOL.

JustBlue
03-20-15, 04:42
Philipines Angeles City. First time here was 30 years ago and It was a "one horse town" It had a great laid back atmosphere. I was 27 years old and on my first over sea trip "To root myself silly". I stayed for 8 weeks and in the end could not look at another pussy. I have great memories of the Hard Rock blow job place with fun girls, who were giving head with ice and toothpaste (they would say " the ice is melting") . We would sitting in some of the little bars were young girls would give you a short sample sucks and pull you off in the bars (show of there tits) it was free and easy. Bar fine was 150 peso and then pay the girl directly. You could breath clean air and move around in the back of took took buses freely. Now at 57 and was a big play in Thailand, Indonesia for over 25 years, "Only twice to the Philippines" I found the seen here very confusing and all to hard (A really hassle and a lot of petite things in bars) In your face a lot of the time. A girl sit next to you (They call her the waitress) then another waitress ask you to buy her a ladies drink. Can I bang her? Answer is "No" Maybe if you sit there all night buying her drinks "she" maybe go with you. Then you pay for drinks and change is given in coins and small notes. Trying to "force you" to leave all the small money behind. Maybe?"I'm a cheap Charlie" The bar prices 1500 peso (Aus $49 dollars) up to 3000 peso (Aus $98 dollars) plus plus in the bars for ladies drinks tips $$ . "A little over the Top (But can pick up really hot chicks in walking street) " Their is good food around Angeles City (But not that cheap) ,The small massage place and blow job place are a waste of time (Unless you have a referral from a friend or ISG number on this site) . The best way for pussy and cheapest way to get laid anywhere in the world is networking. The internet, Phone apps, or Pay the big money once or twice or just grab a few numbers off the street promo girls in fields Ave or walking street and start net working her friends after you bang her. No need to leave your hotel and put up with the hassle of all the beggar and bike guy or buy this and that. "Totally punishment all them guys and gals and very off putting after a few days. Happy hunting guys. " This report is from a non smoker and non drinker. But love the asian pussy. Photo: Girl 1600 + tip 100 and did a runner after two pops. Bar from Perimeter Road end. Next door to were they sell bus tickets and looks like a old tile ozzie pub.

Client Number9
03-21-15, 00:55
One week is about to come to a close and the second week has started. Mongering is not going very well. I can use some help if available I am staying in Prime Asia, nice room and everything but nothing else. I just read about Master Monger helping out some people. I can use some acts of charity! My PM is open. I thought ISG might not be accessible from Philippines but it is!

RumBuddy
03-21-15, 02:54
One week is about to come to a close and the second week has started. Mongering is not going very well. I can use some help if available I am staying in Prime Asia, nice room and everything but nothing else. I just read about Master Monger helping out some people. I can use some acts of charity! My PM is open. I thought ISG might not be accessible from Philippines but it is!What's the problem? I say never ask for Long term the 1st time. Do look anxious, they are just women. Try a girl on the street, not a working girl, just a normal girl and try and start a conversation. I was there less than 4 days and I got busy at least ne time every day, my best time, I had 3 different women. All for less than $100 total. You can PM me your technique if you like. Try going on line to FC and just looking in Pampanga (AC). Good luck.

Tabasco72
03-21-15, 04:20
There is a question: how much will be ride a trike from Fidels to airport and from airport back? Thanks for your help.

Tabasco72
03-21-15, 04:23
Try going on line to FC and just looking in Pampanga (AC). Good luck.What does FC stands for?

Capt Munch
03-21-15, 05:22
There is a question: how much will be ride a trike from Fidels to airport and from airport back? Thanks for your help.You won't find any trikes to take you to the Clark Airport. They are NOT allowed to operate inside of the Clark Development Corporation zone (CDC) They only go as far as SM Mall before the entrance to the Clark zone.

There are nice air conditioned Jeepneys that operate from the Astro Park Jeepney stand behind Checkpoint.

These are White modern jeepneys that are pretty long and new (LOL) as opposed to the rest of the JUNK jeepneys that are allowed on the road all over Angeles spouting clouds of diesel exhaust.

Good luck.

Munch.

Calvin F1
03-21-15, 08:00
One week is about to come to a close and the second week has started. Mongering is not going very well. I can use some help if available I am staying in Prime Asia, nice room and everything but nothing else. I just read about Master Monger helping out some people. I can use some acts of charity! My PM is open. I thought ISG might not be accessible from Philippines but it is!There is supposed to be a pool party and photoshoot at the Scorebirds hotel from 3 to 6 pm today with a 200 p cover charge which includes 2 local drinks. I was going to head down there later. Try your luck there.

D Cups
03-21-15, 09:09
What does FC stands for?Filipino Cupid.

Hutsori
03-21-15, 15:01
Mongering is not going very well. This perplexes me because AC is shootin fish in a barrel. Without any details it's hard to address. Given the limited info I'd say your best approach is to chat with the mamasans and let them know what you're looking for. I also found upping my stylish game works. Pull da trigger. Kop da kops. http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADULT-LEOPARD-COSTUME-OUTFIT-COWBOY/dp/B005Q9O06U.

RumBuddy
03-21-15, 16:58
This perplexes me because AC is shootin fish in a barrel. Without any details it's hard to address. Given the limited info I'd say your best approach is to chat with the mamasans and let them know what you're looking for. I also found upping my stylish game works. Pull da trigger. Kop da kops. http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADULT-LEOPARD-COSTUME-OUTFIT-COWBOY/dp/B005Q9O06U.LOL, yes that outfit should work, totally. Again, LOL, I have to git me one of those. I agree with the shootin fish in a barrel, my 1st night in AC I went out about 11:30 pm on a Sunday and I was desperate for a piece as I didn't have a lot of time in AC, It must have shown because I didn't get anyone from ponytail, everyone was on their period, but I was asking for long time. I then went to Eruptions I think, I ended up getting a girl for 3000. I never paid that much again. I did pay 2000 for longtime from Showtime. I won't use that term anymore I don't think. Longtime, if the girl likes you, I hear from here on ISG, she will stay anyway and you just tip her according to performance.

Dg8787
03-21-15, 17:51
There is a question: how much will be ride a trike from Fidels to airport and from airport back? Thanks for your help.As stated trikes are not allowed in to Clark. You can catch a taxi car directed opposite of the FRONT door to the new Chowking located in the plaza strip center. Be careful, you have to cross 3 lanes of traffic near Jolibees to the island of taxi Corolla cars lined up. You can get their cell for later pick up at your hotel or take them then. I think the cost is P350. This is one island over from the jeepneys to and from Dau.

From the airport back there many cars available as you step out of the terminal. P350-400.

Sammon
03-21-15, 18:29
As stated trikes are not allowed in to Clark. You can catch a taxi car directed opposite of the FRONT door to the new Chowking located in the plaza strip center. Be careful, you have to cross 3 lanes of traffic near Jolibees to the island of taxi Corolla cars lined up. You can get their cell for later pick up at your hotel or take them then. I think the cost is P350. This is one island over from the jeepneys to and from Dau.

From the airport back there many cars available as you step out of the terminal. P350-400.Like anything in phi negotiate. I got taxi for 150 pesos while another guy agreed for 350.

Mr Enternational
03-21-15, 19:39
Like anything in phi negotiate. I got taxi for 150 pesos while another guy agreed for 350.When I was at the bus station in Dau there were taxis offering me 1000 pesos to Manila. They had probably dropped someone off and didn't want to go back empty.

RumBuddy
03-22-15, 00:32
When I was at the bus station in Dau there were taxis offering me 1000 pesos to Manila. They had probably dropped someone off and didn't want to go back empty.I don't know where Dau is, but if you read under one of my posts less than a month ago, there is a full size bus that takes you to Manila from Angeles for $600 or 650, leaves at 1 pm. It is next to the Brass knob I beleive, I just saw the sign and I canceled my $2700 ride to Manila. Good comfortable ride and they make one stop at a rest area with lots of food places, MCdonalds being one of them.

JustBlue
03-22-15, 00:39
Hi "Gals and Guys"I came for 10 days and left after 5 days. Thats right AC you win and the 99% of the uneducated locals guys and gals (Street and Bar works) are like the seagulls on Bondi beach "fighting over a chip". To enjoy this place you need to be drunk and seening it through roses colour glasses. The place is truly one of the most unhealthy atmosphere so depressing a place to hangout. I meet a few cool people and a lot agree with me about this place. After a few roots or three days it, s all down hill. (Its a nothing place) The Truth is the truth and 99% of the girls are be grade at best. They need to find a new line of work and there is no value for money in this place. There is 1% of hot hot girls and half of them are gold diggers. That leaves a few really good ones and value for the buck. I bang few girls and they were all totally rubbish and even tried the ugly ones. LOL. The same result and the were all around 19 to 23 years of age. I hope you had better luck then me and happy hunting " Bye Philippines ".

RumBuddy
03-22-15, 02:24
Hi "Gals and Guys"I came for 10 days and left after 5 days. Thats right AC you win and the 99% of the uneducated locals guys and gals (Street and Bar works) are like the seagulls on Bondi beach "fighting over a chip". To enjoy this place you need to be drunk and seening it through roses colour glasses. The place is truly one of the most unhealthy atmosphere so depressing a place to hangout. I meet a few cool people and a lot agree with me about this place. After a few roots or three days it, s all down hill. (Its a nothing place) The Truth is the truth and 99% of the girls are be grade at best. They need to find a new line of work and there is no value for money in this place. There is 1% of hot hot girls and half of them are gold diggers. That leaves a few really good ones and value for the buck. I bang few girls and they were all totally rubbish and even tried the ugly ones. LOL. The same result and the were all around 19 to 23 years of age. I hope you had better luck then me and happy hunting " Bye Philippines ".I guess everyone has their own taste. It is a little run down, but I like the bars and the girls walking around. I'm going back after only 2 months. 7 days on the ground. I've been setting up girls to meet, maybe avoid the bars some. But I intend to have a good time. I guess a good time is what you make it.

Mogwai
03-22-15, 04:03
Philipines Angeles City. First time here was 30 years ago and It was a "one horse town" It had a great laid back atmosphere.
SNIP
The best way for pussy and cheapest way to get laid anywhere in the world is networking. The internet, Phone apps, or Pay the big money once or twice or just grab a few numbers off the street promo girls in fields Ave or walking street and start net working her friends after you bang her.
SNIP


Hi "Gals and Guys"I came for 10 days and left after 5 days. Thats right AC you win and the 99% of the uneducated locals guys and gals (Street and Bar works) are like the seagulls on Bondi beach "fighting over a chip". To enjoy this place you need to be drunk and seening it through roses colour glasses. The place is truly one of the most unhealthy atmosphere so depressing a place to hangout. I meet a few cool people and a lot agree with me about this place. After a few roots or three days it, s all down hill. (Its a nothing place) The Truth is the truth and 99% of the girls are be grade at best. They need to find a new line of work and there is no value for money in this place. There is 1% of hot hot girls and half of them are gold diggers. That leaves a few really good ones and value for the buck. I bang few girls and they were all totally rubbish and even tried the ugly ones. LOL. The same result and the were all around 19 to 23 years of age. I hope you had better luck then me and happy hunting " Bye Philippines ".I guess 30 years was a bit too much and you could not deal with all the changes? LOL!

I agree with you that the place is depressing (although I got used to it after a few visits, or maybe I should say I got a bit insensitive) and you don't have to go there for the bar girls but if I were you I would not say "Bye Philippines" for good. Why? The answer is in your previous post. I quote: "The best way for pussy and cheapest way to get laid anywhere in the world is networking. The internet, Phone apps... ". Indeed! So why didn't you try that? There are shit loads of lovely pussy to be found in the Phils through dating sites and chat apps.

WestCoast1
03-22-15, 04:36
When I was at the bus station in Dau there were taxis offering me 1000 pesos to Manila.


I don't know where Dau is, but if you read under one of my posts less than a month ago, there is a full size bus that takes you to Manila from Angeles for $600 or 650, leaves at 1 pm. Good comfortable ride and they make one stop at a rest area with lots of food places, MCdonalds being one of them.For many, p1000 for a taxi is a better deal than 600 for a bus.

Fastpiston
03-22-15, 04:41
Hi "Gals and Guys"I came for 10 days and left after 5 days. Thats right AC you win and the 99% of the uneducated locals guys and gals (Street and Bar works) are like the seagulls on Bondi beach "fighting over a chip". To enjoy this place you need to be drunk and seening it through roses colour glasses. The place is truly one of the most unhealthy atmosphere so depressing a place to hangout. I meet a few cool people and a lot agree with me about this place. After a few roots or three days it, s all down hill. (Its a nothing place) The Truth is the truth and 99% of the girls are be grade at best. They need to find a new line of work and there is no value for money in this place. There is 1% of hot hot girls and half of them are gold diggers. That leaves a few really good ones and value for the buck. I bang few girls and they were all totally rubbish and even tried the ugly ones. LOL. The same result and the were all around 19 to 23 years of age. I hope you had better luck then me and happy hunting " Bye Philippines ".Well said, totally agree.

The town streets are like a place in Africa, filthy with no law and order and little to do in the daytime.

It is dream town for those on very low budgets looking for a very cheap place to live and / or low budget pussy. Unfortunately those looking for cheapness often make the mistake of getting married to a bar girl and end up supporting previous Filipino kids, relations and goodness knows what else.

I too find the vast majority of girls (mainly from Samar) unattractive. I would not care about the face if the pussies were clean and smelt good. But the majority smell quite bad.

Hardly surprising I guess based on number of deposits.

But respectfully, all for their own tastes. Certainly not for me though.

I have met some terrific girls online. Stunners. Teachers, nurses etc. Better way to go for me.

WestCoast1
03-22-15, 04:45
I quote: "The best way for pussy and cheapest way to get laid anywhere in the world is networking. The internet, Phone apps... ". Indeed! So why didn't you try that? There are shit loads of lovely pussy to be found in the Phils through dating sites and chat apps.Always find it interesting when guys say they prefer the 'hunt' in some form, then complain when things go south with bargirls. Why would those interested in Internet, phone apps, etc for meeting girls go to AC? If not specifically hunting for bargirls, why go?


To enjoy this place you need to be drunk and seening it through roses colour glasses. The place is truly one of the most unhealthy atmosphere so depressing a place to hangout. I meet a few cool people and a lot agree with me about this place. After a few roots or three days it, s all down hill. (Its a nothing place) .This has been said before. AC is a place with a bit of a mystique, but it is really a place set up for grabbing young honies for meaningless sex (which should be celebrated as such). Anyone who thinks the place is something greater than that (after visiting) is deluding himself.


The Truth is the truth and 99% of the girls are be grade at best. They need to find a new line of work and there is no value for money in this place. There is 1% of hot hot girls and half of them are gold diggers. I bang few girls and they were all totally rubbish and even tried the ugly ones. LOL.So, blur your face and show us a naked picture of yourself. Lets see how you compare. Be-grade?

Mogwai
03-22-15, 05:31
Always find it interesting when guys say they prefer the 'hunt' in some form, then complain when things go south with bargirls. Why would those interested in Internet, phone apps, etc for meeting girls go to AC? If not specifically hunting for bargirls, why go?Because it's a better place to go than filthy, overcrowded and overpolluted Manila or Cebu for example. But to each his own of course.



So, blur your face and show us a naked picture of yourself. Lets see how you compare. Be-grade?I respectfully disagree Westy. Wether the guy is handsome or not is not relevant.

Key Master
03-22-15, 05:32
For many, p1000 for a taxi is a better deal than 600 for a bus.Plus, I'm assuming that 1000 pesos takes you to your hotel, where the bus takes you either to Soutern Cross or Swagman's. If you are staying in that area that's great, otherwise it's not a bad deal for 1000 to not have to change vehicles with your bag or bags.

Key Master
03-22-15, 05:35
For those who have stated some pretty harsh feelings toward AC, I'm curious if you were lone mongers? I had some pretty wretched trips in regards to luck or finding enough to my liking. It's happened less so lately but I think I have the most fun when I have a buddy or two to meet up for meals and some bar hopping together. I don't think the place is even close to so bad as you have stated, but when you have a bad time you have a bad time.

Mogwai
03-22-15, 05:36
Plus, I'm assuming that 1000 pesos takes you to your hotel, where the bus takes you either to Soutern Cross or Swagman's. If you are staying in that area that's great, otherwise it's not a bad deal for 1000 to not have to change vehicles with your bag or bags.I agree it's a good deal. But the bus is a certainty, finding a taxi from Manila is not.

Mogwai
03-22-15, 05:44
For those who have stated some pretty harsh feelings toward AC, I'm curious if you were lone mongers? I had some pretty wretched trips in regards to luck or finding enough to my liking. It's happened less so lately but I think I have the most fun when I have a buddy or two to meet up for meals and some bar hopping together. I don't think the place is even close to so bad as you have stated, but when you have a bad time you have a bad time.And if you don't have a buddy you can go to places like Kokomo's or Phillie's or whatever your favorite hangout is. There are always guys who are alone too and are looking for someone to have a chat with.

WestCoast1
03-22-15, 06:35
I respectfully disagree Westy. Wether the guy is handsome or not is not relevant.Respectfully disagree back. You can see the hypocrisy of a fat / balding 50 year-old man judging another person (man or woman) on their looks.

Tabasco72
03-22-15, 07:16
As stated trikes are not allowed in to Clark. You can catch a taxi car directed opposite of the FRONT door to the new Chowking located in the plaza strip center. Be careful, you have to cross 3 lanes of traffic near Jolibees to the island of taxi Corolla cars lined up. You can get their cell for later pick up at your hotel or take them then. I think the cost is P350. This is one island over from the jeepneys to and from Dau.

From the airport back there many cars available as you step out of the terminal. P350-400.The point is that I will have business meetings near by airport but I'd like to stay in a place where the action is. Taking taxi to airport and back 4 days in a row doesn't seem to be a good deal so I'm looking for a cheaper option. The company pays me 130 $ a day (accommodation and living cost) so better to spend those money on girls or bear than on a taxi.

Oosik
03-22-15, 07:36
Respectfully disagree back. You can see the hypocrisy of a fat / balding 50 year-old man judging another person (man or woman) on their looks.If I read it correctly, and it was a bit difficult, he was complaining about the quality of the pros. In that case his appearance is irrelevant: he is a customer complaining about the quality of a product. One compares product vs. Other product, not product vs. Buyer. If he was talking about freebies then his looks would be quite relevant.

I was just there and, despite how some interpreted my posts, had a good time, at least as good a time as one can have without actually having sex there with another person. Admittedly that is a huge qualification. I had a better time in Pattaya afterwards, but I'll still be back to AC. I have enough time to do both. I was alone, but I don't think that diminished my enjoyment. I generally am alone whether on the road or at home. I like it that way. Simon and Garfunkel's "I Am A Rock" really resonates with me. It does make you the silent, brooding-looking guy in the back, which may not attract women like flies, but that's what money is for!

Mogwai
03-22-15, 08:00
If I read it correctly, and it was a bit difficult, he was complaining about the quality of the pros. In that case his appearance is irrelevant: he is a customer complaining about the quality of a product. One compares product vs. Other product, not product vs. Buyer. If he was talking about freebies then his looks would be quite relevant.Exactly. Although I would put "product" between quotation marks because we're talking about human beings here.

Oosik
03-22-15, 08:25
Exactly. Although I would put "product" between quotation marks because we're talking about human beings here.I intentionally did not use quotes because to me they imply some wiggle room in the logic. I do fully agree that they should not be treated as a mere commodity. In fact this has caused me problems: I will generally not BF two girls from the same bar on the same trip. Nothing like spotting Miss Right as you wait for Miss Almost Right to get dressed to leave.

Calvin F1
03-22-15, 09:56
Long time lurker and this month I finally have a chance to see for myself what this place is like. I'm here for four days (still here as I type from my hotel) and I'm traveling alone in the Philippines for the first time. To provide context I'm 34 years old American Chinese traveling from the US. My only mongering experience was in Donguan (CP) in China. But due to recent crack down I decided to look else where to seek out my curiosity. It took me months of research and planning but AC was still somewhat a mystery to me. I had no idea what to expect honestly but I was excited about the trip. I guess nothing can prepare me until I saw things with my own eyes. One of the things I learned is that Filipino people are very not fond of Chinese people and Chinese people sort of look down on Filipinos. Where I'm different is that I'm US educated so I don't share that mentally. So the whole time here I just play off as being a Korean since they are more generally accepted here in AC.

Here are my observations and opinions.

1. The plane ride into Clark from Hong Kong was pretty standard. But as soon as I get off the plane, I realized this is very much a 3rd world country. You can read all about it through research but nothing is like seeing it for yourself. My last trip to a third world country was in Jamaica. The moment walked out the airport, I was in caution / alert mode. Getting bombarded by solicitors for ride. I feel like nothing is standard and everything is based on bartering and negotiating. Ended up paying a lot more than I should for a short ride to my hotel.

2. I'm staying at the Apollonia Royale hotel and realized how far off Fields ave it is. Mind you I'm staying by myself and the hotel is located down a dark street at night full of solicitors, massage places and beggars. The hotel is fine but walking back at night means you have to be alert. At this point I am still not comfortable getting into a trike. Also my room is just right behind the front desk off the lobby so it is not quiet or secluded. Didn't feel very private while having guest in the room. More on that below.

3. The place outside of the walking street area is shady at best but I never felt unsafe. Being a lone wolf who is Chinese, you kinda have to be cautious. I can fit in when mongering in China but here I stand out like a sore thumb.

4. Some parts of AC is nice. The SM Clark is incredible and is better than Mall of America. People in there are civilized and makes me feel right at home. Lots of familiar shops and restaurants is a big plus. Especially during day time when its hot as hell, it was my go to place rather than wondering the streets.

5. Checked out a couple of a gogo places on walking street. Feels like you can't just go sit down to have a beer and observe the scenery. You have to get bombarded by girls wanting drinks from you. I said fine, even in a strip club in the US you are expected to throw some dollar bills out so I was OK with that.

6. Found a really cute Filipina chick that I would definitely go gaga over in the US (at the dollhouse) and took her out for more $$ than expected. Great smile, dark complexion with nice size A cups even laying down. Noticed she carried a nicer smart phone than me so I can tell she makes good money. Back to the hotel and did my thing. Showered and waited for an opportunity. I was told that Filipina girls are shy when comes to sexuality with strange men and considering this girl had only been in the business for 6 months, I wanted to start her slowly be warming her up, chatting more with her with TV on and massaging her injured elbow (her friend playfully pushed her into a chair). After a while I initiated started with playing and sucking her nipples to start her engine. Worked my way down to a reluctant DATY but could tell she wanted it. I was having second thoughts about doing that but she didn't smell at all and was clean shaven. Then we flipped and she started DFK and licking my nips hard which was good. Little bro was ready but she proceeded to keep going onto a BBBJ. BJ was probably a 6 and felt some teeth. After that slipped on the cover and she hopped on for a cowgirl ride. Pretty much let her ride until she was tired. My view from that angle was stunning as she was a real hottie as I allowed her to control her pace. While riding she gave me more DFK as we locked lips the entire time. Did that for 10 minutes then went into mish. Start slow and then picked up the pace as she moaned and then I just started pounding her hard for the next ten minutes. She was pretty much screaming at that point and scratching her claws down my back hard. I had to quiet her down so I started DFK her more. My legs felt jelly so but her into doggie and just absolutely unleash more pounding from behind as I pull be her hair and hear her scream more for another 10 minutes. Incredible view from behind. Wanted to slap her behind but felt she was loud enough as it is. Mind you my room is right near the lobby front desk with a restaurant bar next to it that is relatively quiet so people probably know something is up. Back to the process, I was getting tired so I invoked little bro to unload into the rubber and laid there with her for couple of minutes to catch my breath. Cleaned up, she got dressed and off she went. She asked for a tip but for the price that I paid, I didn't think I need to give her anymore. Also I didn't want LT since my bed is s small double size and I get restless with fresh girl next to me. All in all, one of the better sex I had with a WG.

7. Through my research, I learned that I need to reserve about 3 k pesos for the cab ride to the airport and paying the 2250 p airport fees.

8. I realized there are lots of lone wolves in the area but in the back of my mind I felt if I had came along with a couple of buddies, it would be much more fun. As of right now I feel empty and have no motivation to go through the whole bar fine process for the remainder of the trip. The girls are definitely out there but the urge is really not quite there since I'm out and about alone. My buddies and I are all in Asia attending a wedding but I was the only one not traveling with my spouse. My opinion is that this is really a place that you travel with some friends. Just like I wouldn't go to Vegas alone.

9. One more night to go, thinking that this might be my last monger trip before moving on like I need one last harrah in AC but is kinda turned off by seeing how poor and depressed by some of there people here living the way that they live. The beggars, the solicitors, the bar scenes, the constant cat calls. I'm still sitting in my hotel at 4:30 PM to debate whether I want to get dressed and hit walking street again tonight.

10. One positive thing here is everyone speaks some English with most people being fluent. I was incredibly surprised and greatful for it.

Final thoughts: As mentioned this is probably my final tour before closing down the mongering days and really focus on being a great husband and father to my 2 yo daughter. I was really excited about my trip to AC but what I came out of this was eye opening. I think with all of the turn offs from this place and seeing the livelihood of AC, it makes me feel sad but at the same time feeling how incredibly lucky that I am. Not trying to take a stab at the people in this place as everyone has been friendly. My previous Mongering trips always left me wanting more but AC really make me feel the opposite. I think this trip will really help me move on.

AC was only the first leg of my trip, I still have Bangkok and Pattaya booked (lone wolf) in about a week. Sort of dreading it now since people there doesn't quite have the same English skills and it is even more of a wild wild west there compared to AC.

Just needed the forum to get things off my mind.

Thanks for reading.

JustBlue
03-22-15, 11:57
Always find it interesting when guys say they prefer the 'hunt' in some form, then complain when things go south with bargirls. Why would those interested in Internet, phone apps, etc for meeting girls go to AC? If not specifically hunting for bargirls, why go?

This has been said before. AC is a place with a bit of a mystique, but it is really a place set up for grabbing young honies for meaningless sex (which should be celebrated as such). Anyone who thinks the place is something greater than that (after visiting) is deluding himself.

So, blur your face and show us a naked picture of yourself. Lets see how you compare. Be-grade?"Just for you Westcoast" Ha Ha Ha. I'm a old guy with a normal size cock and all the girls say it, s to big for them in Thailand and Indonesia, and now Angeles, But I try to stay fit and health. I love surfing as much as pussy. I'm just a normal guy doing his best in this life. But the truth is the truth. I wish I had a great time, but it was rubbish and the attitude of the girls I had were bad. Photo of Justblue after surfing in the shower and surfing. Be is not just looks it everything E. G Attitude towards there job, Most asian girls are lazy and soft. Like we all know it, s about the money. But A makes you think she like you. . Angeles City Philippnes ass LOL LOL. I wish you good hunting more win. Take care.

RumBuddy
03-22-15, 12:13
For many, p1000 for a taxi is a better deal than 600 for a bus.That might be the case, but I was just trying to add information. The more information you have the better choices you get to make. The bus was pretty full. But if 2 are traveling as I took a girl with me, and was going to another hotel, your statement would have been spot on.

Amjeck
03-22-15, 16:42
Hi "Gals and Guys"I came for 10 days and left after 5 days. Are you saying that Bali is better than AC?

Dg8787
03-22-15, 16:48
The point is that I will have business meetings near by airport but I'd like to stay in a place where the action is. Taking taxi to airport and back 4 days in a row doesn't seem to be a good deal so I'm looking for a cheaper option. The company pays me 130 $ a day (accommodation and living cost) so better to spend those money on girls or bear than on a taxi.My mistake I didn't answer your question correctly. Trike cost from Fields to Clark is -0-.

Based on your new information you can take the local 14 person passenger bus service to Clark. I am not sure if it is 1 route or 2. 8 pesos from Checkpoint to Friendship, not sure how much for the other bus. There may be one bus from Checkpoint to Clark. Be sure to ask for receipts to maintain business expense account.

Dg8787
03-22-15, 17:11
AC certainly has a grit and grime to it. I can remember my first time here. All the "deferred maintenance", poverty, beggars, vitamin V salesmens, non-stop smoking drunk ex-pats and on and on was quite a bit shocking and overwhelming experience. After a week of laying in bed with different goodwill ambassodorettes (long time) my attitude changed a bit. Of course none of the above changed but I was able to see and explore the more positive side of AC and the Philippines along with its people. After I reset my measurements and comparision and expections from the western world, I was able to enjoy the Philippines.

Dg8787
03-22-15, 17:28
Calvin F-1.

It is a shame you didn't have a good time. First there is no need to hide the fact you are of Chinese bloodline or an American-Chinese. After some explanation most Filipinos understand that and know the difference between mainland Chinese. Some after all have American-Filippinos for relatives. Second you said you were Korean, LOL, most Koreans are not held in high esteem other than they are known to throw "big" money around in front of their friends. When alone they are pretty cheap.

Yes, AC has its grit and grime but I have found out that if you are yourself and treat the people nice and with respect the grit and grime will fade away.

Calvin F1
03-22-15, 18:10
Calvin F-1.

It is a shame you didn't have a good time. First there is no need to hide the fact you are of Chinese bloodline or an American-Chinese. After some explanation most Filipinos understand that and know the difference between mainland Chinese. Some after all have American-Filippinos for relatives. Second you said you were Korean, LOL, most Koreans are not held in high esteem other than they are known to throw "big" money around in front of their friends. When alone they are pretty cheap.

Yes, AC has its grit and grime but I have found out that if you are yourself and treat the people nice and with respect the grit and grime will fade away.Maybe you're right. Maybe I need to reset expectations and see things through their eyes. I always treat everyone with respect.

Maybe I will rethink my strategy next time.

Peter Den
03-22-15, 20:39
I stayed at Pacific Breeze hotel. Great hotel and close to Fields Ave. Also, they have transportation to either Clark airport for 400 pesos or Manila airport for 2700 pesos.


Long time lurker and this month I finally have a chance to see for myself what this place is like. I'm here for four days (still here as I type from my hotel) and I'm traveling alone in the Philippines for the first time. To provide context I'm 34 years old American Chinese traveling from the US. My only mongering experience was in Donguan (CP) in China. But due to recent crack down I decided to look else where to seek out my curiosity. It took me months of research and planning but AC was still somewhat a mystery to me. I had no idea what to expect honestly but I was excited about the trip. I guess nothing can prepare me until I saw things with my own eyes. One of the things I learned is that Filipino people are very not fond of Chinese people and Chinese people sort of look down on Filipinos. Where I'm different is that I'm US educated so I don't share that mentally. So the whole time here I just play off as being a Korean since they are more generally accepted here in AC.

Here are my observations and opinions.

1. The plane ride into Clark from Hong Kong was pretty standard. But as soon as I get off the plane, I realized this is very much a 3rd world country. You can read all about it through research but nothing is like seeing it for yourself. My last trip to a third world country was in Jamaica. The moment walked out the airport, I was in caution / alert mode. Getting bombarded by solicitors for ride. I feel like nothing is standard and everything is based on bartering and negotiating. Ended up paying a lot more than I should for a short ride to my hotel.

2. I'm staying at the Apollonia Royale hotel and realized how far off Fields ave it is. Mind you I'm staying by myself and the hotel is located down a dark street at night full of solicitors, massage places and beggars. The hotel is fine but walking back at night means you have to be alert. At this point I am still not comfortable getting into a trike. Also my room is just right behind the front desk off the lobby so it is not quiet or secluded. Didn't feel very private while having guest in the room. More on that below.

3. The place outside of the walking street area is shady at best but I never felt unsafe. Being a lone wolf who is Chinese, you kinda have to be cautious. I can fit in when mongering in China but here I stand out like a sore thumb...

Streetlooker
03-22-15, 21:31
The best thing about AC IMHO is that you can be by yourself if you wish. Many times I have sat at Kokomo's, Phillie's or Lanie's hang out bar watching the world go by. I sit there and people walk by like I.

Am not even there and its a good thing. You also can go about your business doing whatever you want instead of having to cater to others.

You can totally remain anonymous in AC cause I have done it plenty of times. I have.

Spent 3 weeks at a time in AC with only a very few bar and massage girls even knowing I was there. If you want company its also a easy thing to accomplish.

You can enter bars look around see if there's a girl in there that you want and leave if you don; t find something. At some of the busy bars its so packed you can walk in and act like you been there for hrs look around at the girls they have and leave without ever even buying a drink. While; e I believe taking a few newbies around the place for a few hrs to see there reactions would be fun I prefer lone wolf style mongering cause of its anonymity.

RumBuddy
03-23-15, 02:00
Anyone know of a massage parlor that gives Prostrate massage?

Mogwai
03-23-15, 04:01
Through my research, I learned that I need to reserve about 3 k pesos for the cab ride to the airport and paying the 2250 p airport fees.When I left the Phils last week I only had to pay 550 P airport fee. Why do you think it's 2250?

And if you have purchased your ticket after February 1 the airport fee is included in the price of the ticket.

Mogwai
03-23-15, 04:23
AC was only the first leg of my trip, I still have Bangkok and Pattaya booked (lone wolf) in about a week. Sort of dreading it now since people there doesn't quite have the same English skills and it is even more of a wild wild west there compared to AC.Do you mean that the P4 P scene in Bangkok and Pattaya is more of a wild west compared to AC? That's correct. It's about a thousand times bigger and can be overwhelming initially, especially Pattaya.

But if you mean that Thailand is more of a wild wild west compared to the Phils then you're wrong. Thailand is much more organized and civilized and less dangerous than the Phils (relatively speaking anyway).

And I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of English skills. It's not that bad in general.

BrainDrain
03-23-15, 05:06
The point is that I will have business meetings near by airport but I'd like to stay in a place where the action is. Taking taxi to airport and back 4 days in a row doesn't seem to be a good deal so I'm looking for a cheaper option. The company pays me 130 $ a day (accommodation and living cost) so better to spend those money on girls or bear than on a taxi.You need a local driver. Ask at your hotel for a suggestion.

If I was there, first option would be Hotel van, then suggestions from hotel concierge, then Action Travel whom transfer me to NAIA. Ask if they have local service suggestion.

Calvin F1
03-23-15, 06:11
When I left the Phils last week I only had to pay 550 P airport fee. Why do you think it's 2250?

And if you have purchased your ticket after February 1 the airport fee is included in the price of the ticket.I booked my ticket after Feb 1 but the receipt specifically states airport fees is not included. Plus I went onto the Clark Airport website and states there is a 1650 p + 600 tax / fee. I already set aside that cash just in case and I will find out in couple of hours and report back.

Calvin F1
03-23-15, 06:23
When I left the Phils last week I only had to pay 550 P airport fee. Why do you think it's 2250?

And if you have purchased your ticket after February 1 the airport fee is included in the price of the ticket.OK not bad. Originally I thought I had to pay the 1650 travel tax but found out it only applies to Phil citizens and non-res staying over a year. Looks like the airport fee is either 550 or 600.

Oh well, I will change my extra cash over to HKD when I land.

JustTK
03-23-15, 11:49
Sounds like you are talking about 2 different airports. P 500 is like the price to Clark Airport. P 2.000+ is the price to Manila Airport.


When I left the Phils last week I only had to pay 550 P airport fee. Why do you think it's 2250?

And if you have purchased your ticket after February 1 the airport fee is included in the price of the ticket.

Drafun
03-23-15, 17:57
Hi all,

I visited AC back in April 2013 and had a blast. This was back when I was in the military. Different mindset. Nowadays I'm a civilian, make great money and love my life. The desire to return to the Philippines isn't as strong. However I can't deny that it was an amazing experience.

So here are my questions:

- is the AC as safe as it was back then? I'm 22 now.

- what about the girls? When I was there it seemed like they were just there for the duration of our stay. 85% of them were actually pretty and had nice bodies. I don't want to run into the "professional" girls

- there is a girl that i have somewhat in touch with over the past 2 years. i may want to meet up with her, but I don't want her to become attached. what do you all think? meet her or not?

Pip Jaeger
03-23-15, 23:19
Sounds like you are talking about 2 different airports. P 500 is like the price to Clark Airport. P 2.000+ is the price to Manila Airport.And it sounds like YOU are confusing transport costs to / from the airport with the departure tax. The P550 international departure tax / terminal fee is the same, regardless what airport you depart the Phils from. The only difference is that as of Feb 1 the airlines are supposed to include it in your ticket as opposed to paying it separately at a special booth inside of the airport, but some airlines have yet to comply.

Calvin F1
03-24-15, 01:07
And it sounds like YOU are confusing transport costs to / from the airport with the departure tax. The P550 international departure tax / terminal fee is the same, regardless what airport you depart the Phils from. The only difference is that as of Feb 1 the airlines are supposed to include it in your ticket as opposed to paying it separately at a special booth inside of the airport, but some airlines have yet to comply.Just left AC last night back to HK. Can confirm the airport tax for is 600 P (broken down 500 p for airport tax and 100 p for security fee). You get a red ticket stub stapled to your boarding pass. The 1620 p tax is for citizens or non citizen stayed in PH over a year. Hope this clears it up.

Next up for me. BKK and Pattaya!

BrainDrain
03-24-15, 01:44
And it sounds like YOU are confusing transport costs to / from the airport with the departure tax. The P550 international departure tax / terminal fee is the same, regardless what airport you depart the Phils from. The only difference is that as of Feb 1 the airlines are supposed to include it in your ticket as opposed to paying it separately at a special booth inside of the airport, but some airlines have yet to comply.Just to be more confusing, I thoutgh the Airport tax was a different rate for Filipino & Foreigner. I recall taking a girl from Clark to Hong Kong. The airport tax for her was higher.

I guess the airport know to make a profit from pussy as well, know I am paying it anyway.

BrainDrain
03-24-15, 01:51
- there is a girl that i have somewhat in touch with over the past 2 years. i may want to meet up with her, but I don't want her to become attached. what do you all think? meet her or not?Meet her. It's nice to catch up with old friends in among the haze of AC life.

As for attachment, the girls are used to being left behind.

WHen I say meet her. Suggest leaving your itin open, you could arrive a few days before she expects, you can have options to leave for work if it gets too cosy.

I always careful not to give them exact flights and details. If she is a typical Pinay, she will want to meet you at airport and optimise your time and money for her sole purpose.

VIPhawaii
03-24-15, 02:03
Just to be more confusing, I thoutgh the Airport tax was a different rate for Filipino & Foreigner. I recall taking a girl from Clark to Hong Kong. The airport tax for her was higher.

I guess the airport know to make a profit from pussy as well, know I am paying it anyway.I don't think so. Its 550 regardless of nationality.

VIPhawaii
03-24-15, 02:11
You need a local driver. Ask at your hotel for a suggestion.

If I was there, first option would be Hotel van, then suggestions from hotel concierge, then Action Travel whom transfer me to NAIA. Ask if they have local service suggestion.No way. Private drivers always cost more for short distances. He's talking about going from town to Clark Airport, not to Manila Airport.

He need to suck it up and pay for taxi. I doubt he is going to ruin his business clothes taking a jeepney or bus.

WestCoast1
03-24-15, 03:49
"Just for you Westcoast" Ha Ha Ha. I'm a old guy with a normal size cock and all the girls say it, s to big for them in Thailand and Indonesia, and now Angeles, But I try to stay fit and health. I love surfing as much as pussy. I'm just a normal guy doing his best in this life. But the truth is the truth. I wish I had a great time, but it was rubbish and the attitude of the girls I had were bad. Photo of Justblue after surfing in the shower and surfing. SNIP
I wish you good hunting more win. Take care.Mea culpa. You look good (surfing! Poon is as adventurous as I get). Have you posted girlie pics on the other countries PG forums?

Fast Eddie 48
03-26-15, 00:18
The best thing about AC IMHO is that you can be by yourself if you wish. Many times I have sat at Kokomo's, Phillie's or Lanie's hang out bar watching the world go by. I sit there and people walk by like I.

Am not even there and its a good thing. You also can go about your business doing whatever you want instead of having to cater to others.

You can totally remain anonymous in AC cause I have done it plenty of times. I have.

Spent 3 weeks at a time in AC with only a very few bar and massage girls even knowing I was there. If you want company its also a easy thing to accomplish.

You can enter bars look around see if there's a girl in there that you want and leave if you don; t find something. At some of the busy bars its so packed you can walk in and act like you been there for hrs look around at the girls they have and leave without ever even buying a drink. While; e I believe taking a few newbies around the place for a few hrs to see there reactions would be fun I prefer lone wolf style mongering cause of its anonymity.To Street looker.

What so fun about that I refer laying on the beach of Bali or Borocay watching girl go by ,3 week in AC is just too damn long for me I get bored after 3 days just not enough thing to do at AC for me.

Fast eddie 48.

KiwiBoy
03-26-15, 07:38
The best thing about AC IMHO is that you can be by yourself if you wish. Many times I have sat at Kokomo's, Phillie's or Lanie's hang out bar watching the world go by. I sit there and people walk by like I.

Am not even there and its a good thing. You also can go about your business doing whatever you want instead of having to cater to others.

You can totally remain anonymous in AC cause I have done it plenty of times. I have.

Spent 3 weeks at a time in AC with only a very few bar and massage girls even knowing I was there. If you want company its also a easy thing to accomplish.

You can enter bars look around see if there's a girl in there that you want and leave if you don; t find something. At some of the busy bars its so packed you can walk in and act like you been there for hrs look around at the girls they have and leave without ever even buying a drink. While; e I believe taking a few newbies around the place for a few hrs to see there reactions would be fun I prefer lone wolf style mongering cause of its anonymity.Was that you using wechat at Kokomoes?

Mogwai
03-26-15, 14:24
Was that you using wechat at Kokomoes?No, that was me :-)

Ibn Buttita
03-28-15, 02:08
After four fun-filled days and nights on my maiden voyage to Subic, I made a return to Angeles City for the first time since August 2013. This time my trip would be pretty quick; to spend an extra night in Subic I cut the Angeles leg down to just two days and a night. My goal was to re-create the fun I had the last time, and to erase a bad memory: in 2013 I had gotten robbed on Perimeter walking alone one afternoon, by a fat trike driver in a wife-beater t-shirt. He pulled a scam on me, and I should have just ignored him: lesson, do not engage with characters like this. But that was ancient history and on my January trip I had better things to think about.

This visit I got the Southern Cross shuttle from Subic to my hotel in Angeles, Central Park hotel. It had not been complete the last time I visited, and with its soft opening underway I got a very good room rate. Central Park is plush, the room one of the nicest I've stayed in anywhere (more on the bathroom later). The location is ideal, but buildings like it and the Penthouse seem out of place, and surely part of a trend toward homogenizing and gentrifying the place. While I appreciated the comfort and facilities of Central Park, I do regret that this kind of gleaming tower, dropped smack in the middle of more modest surroundings, is changing the spirit of Angeles.

My room was not ready when I arrived at 1 PM, so with some time to kill before settling in I decided to head over to Raymond Street just around the corner for a quickie, one of my favorite pastimes on my last trip. I immediately noticed that only two of the bars were operating any longer. I took a seat on the porch of Lovely Paradise bar (they may have renamed it slightly), sitting next to a cutie, and ordered a San Mig.

I always loved that on Raymond Street there was a church right next door to bawdy houses where blow jobs and fucking were going down. This afternoon in front of the bars a nun led a group of schoolchildren in practicing a fan dance for the next day's Santo Nino Festival (I stopped by the actual street festival the next day, the deafening drums and colorful costumes not distracting me from the sight of a ladyboy in a dress leading the procession). Next to me a European guy, clearly a regular and clearly an eccentric, made phallic ice-cream jokes with the street vendor peddling the treat, with the aforementioned ladyboy looking on with a smile. I sat with my arm around a slender cutie, with her more seasoned counterparts around us chatting and doing their makeup. Here in front of me was the perfect combination of the sacred and the profane, the intersection of sex and life.

On my last trip in 2013 I had been a regular at the Raymond Street and Santos Street blow job bars; they had been my go-to location for all my daytime action. At Jumping Jack flash I took a couple of hot young things upstairs for a threesome (a real deal at 1600 pesos, total), though they weren't the best in bed. On my getaway day, before the shuttle to Manila, I squeezed in an afternoon session up in a sweltering bedroom at JJF with Mary, a barely legal sweetie (though she was a bit grumpy as I had to squeeze my cock into her small pussy). Lovely Paradise next door was a good afternoon spot, one time with Geraldine but especially thanks to a cutie named Babylynn one day in a threesome with the similarly named Annalyn.

I also took girls out of the Raymond and Santos Street bars and back to my hotel on that 2013 trip. Party One Bar on Santos was the source for a couple of separate take-outs (at 750 pesos), Cathy and Jessica (the latter was easily the smallest girl, in terms of height and body size, that I have ever fucked). Further down the street next to Black Pearl there was a bar (I forget the name) with girls in dresses (it may not have been strictly a BJ bar), where I found attractive Joy for an afternoon romp. Short-time sessions in my hotel with girls from the BJ bars was my main nighttime action on that trip; I only barfined one girl overnight from a go-go, a tall but otherwise unmemorable Amy from Genesis. For those night-time sessions Bablylynn was my baby, by herself one time and on another night in a threesome with petite Jeanne. The view of cute little Babylynn riding me cowgirl while Jeanne sucked my nipple, her doe-eyes looking to me for approval, is one of my iconic mental images from my mongering career.

So this January I had planned to check out the BJ bars, even without my check-in delay. But I had heard rumblings that things were changing, something clear when I noticed that only two of the Raymond Street bars were still open (Jumping Jack Flash was one of the casualties, now closed). After some small talk and silliness with the cutie on the porch at Lovely Paradise, I asked her about going upstairs for a session. But she told me that they did not do that there anymore. Takeout was possible, at P1000, but since I was not even checked into my hotel I was not ready for that (plus the girl only did blow jobs, not full service, so that ended that). I finished my beer and left with a heavy heart. Just to be sure, I stopped into Party One bar on Santos and there I was again told that sex on the premises was no longer permitted. I rejected the offer of taking to my hotel the unattractive girl available. I never did use the services of the blow job bars on that trip, thanks to what had come of them. It's sad, the end of an era; those places were a highlight of Angeles for me, but I guess things do change.

Ibn Buttita
03-28-15, 02:18
Once I was settled into my room I headed out for some afternoon fun. After a look into a few of the bars that were open on Fields' walking street, I stopped into Viking Bar. The angelescity2014 blog made for essential trip-planning reading material for this sex tour, and one place ranked consistently high over several months of blog posts was Viking. I gave it high points for its nautical decor, and the lineup was fine, if not spectacular.

One girl quickly caught my eye, and for one main reason: her lips. She was a shorty, but even from afar I could see that she had luscious lips, perfect for kissing, not to mention blow jobs. I asked my waitress to bring her over for a lady drink, and as we chatted I asked her if she liked to kiss. When she replied yes, I arranged to pay the mama the 2,500 to take her out. Our walk back to my hotel was funny, since she had me walk ahead of her so she would not be seen going out on a barfine by the mamasan at Shipwrecked, where she had recently left work abruptly. I felt like I was a suitor hiding from her father!

Staying in a room as high class as the one in Central Park gives me greater urgency to achieve a session worthy of the surroundings. Jean was certainly up for the task. She put on some romantic music on her phone, and I led her to the bed and began to kiss her. Slow, sensual kisses, the kind that make your brain go numb. I slowly removed the clothes from Jean's petite, tight body, and she got into place to give me a blow job. As I anticipated, having those lips wrapped around my dick felt amazing. Jean could suck dick with the best of them, slowly enveloping my dick head and shaft while maintaining unbroken, erotic eye contact.

I loved clasping her tits in my hands as she rode me, her thick, flowing black hair waving back and forth. Reverse cowgirl and flat doggy let me really get close to her juicy ass cheeks too. She fell asleep afterward, lying on her side. I was up and about doing things, but mostly staring at the gorgeous curves of her back and ass, her butt cheeks accentuated by a black thong. An hour or so later she woke and we enjoyed a quick repeat, before saying farewell for the night.

Ibn Buttita
03-28-15, 02:32
My session with Jean had been a full one, but in combination with getting some dinner at Central Park's rooftop restaurant it gave me a much later start on my night's activities than I had wanted. In particular, I had wanted to check out Aura bar, which got rave reviews on the angelescity2014 blog. The warning from the blogger, however, was that one had to get there early, before the largely Korean clientele took out all the talent. Alas, I wandered in at around 11 PM, and there was one mediocre girl dancing on stage and three or four unoccupied ones sitting at a table. I had clearly missed my chance, and so finished my beer and left Aura.

Thus began some wandering up and down Walking Street. While it's fun to check out various bars, it causes my brain, which has trouble deciding on things, to hurt. After stopping into, among other places, Texas (some cute girls, having fun on stage), Grand Pharaoah (dramatic stage and bikini girls), Nemesis (very crowded, lots of girls; I had barfined a girl from there in 2013 when it was Genesis), I still had not made up my mind on what to do.

So I headed over to a bar a bit closer to my hotel, Las Vegas. This had also been written up on the blog in the last year. I had remembered its garish outside decoration from past trips to Angeles. Inside the decor was worn and the theme dated, but the important thing was the talent. As I had read, the girls were some of the nicest I saw on my trip so far. Some dressed in tight, sexy skirts with thigh-high boots, and danced to a mesmerizing syncopated routine. Between their sets, a troupe of hip-hop dancers, girls in t-shirts and tight shorts, accompanied by a couple of male dancers; they were excellent. Las Vegas lived up to the reputation of its namesake as far as top-flight entertainment.

But it was getting late, after 1 AM now, and I had no-one lined up to spend the night with. For assistance I turned to the waitress serving my drinks. She sat next to me at a table at the rear and gave her input on which dancers were available. The tall, European girl who looked like she came from Spanish royalty? Didn't do long time. The gorgeous, caramel-haired one with very Asian features? That was her Korean boyfriend at the table over there. The super-cute super-tiny hip-hop dancer? She was a cherry girl. One by one my options dwindled as I learned the problems with each girl.

Frustrated, I glanced over to the waitress sitting next to me, and noticed her sexy legs extending from her schoolgirl skirt. And her cute face too, with its very Asian features and alluring beauty mark. Despite the schoolgirl uniform she wore for her waitressing duties, she was not very young (24 years old as it turned out), which has been something of a sweet spot for me in terms of age: young looks combined with enough experience.

So I took a gamble and asked if waitresses could be barfined, specifically her. She said yes, but could I wait until 3 AM when the bar closed. After we now made our formal introductions, I agreed to pay Emz (for Emily) the going 2,500 barfine rate even though it would not technically be a barfine after hours, because I saw no reason to save a few dollars at her expense. I sat through another hour or so of the dancing and then headed to my hotel to order some room service food to be ready when she arrived. I had wondered if she would come in her schoolgirl outfit, but instead she came dressed in a jeans skirt and hoodie, and she looked great in just that.

After eating, I invited Emz to join me for a bath. The bathroom was one of the highlights of the room at Central Park, with its glass wall that permitted a view inside (curtain available when privacy desired), classy decor, good mood lighting options, big bathtub, and plenty of hot water. As Emz climbed into the tub on top of me I knew our night together would be special, because she basically attacked me. Lying on top of me, she nearly asphyxiated me with a powerful kiss, and sucked on my neck like a crazed vampire. She treated my dick to a little bit of that, too.

More of the same followed when I led her to the bed. Emz kissed me with a passion and physical intensity I seldom experienced before. She clawed my back as I mounted her in missionary, ignoring the condoms on the bedside table. When she took over in cowgirl she bent over to kiss me, and I clasped her ass cheeks as she bucked wildly up and down, as I pulled her in strongly on every downthrust. Resuming missionary, as I was coming into the homestretch I asked Emz if she wanted me to put on a condom before cumming, and she desperately groaned no, as I emptied my load into her vagina.

Exhausted from sex and the late hour, we collapsed into sleep, lying naked in each other's arms. This only lasted until early morning light, and morning wood, roused me. I nuzzled Emz's neck and stroked her delicate breasts and soon we were fucking wildly again. Another round of sleep was again followed by more sweat and the exchange of other bodily fluids.

By now early afternoon, it was time to clean up so we extracted ourselves from the bed and made our way to the shower. This was maybe my favorite aspect of the room at Central Park, a big glass cube with a huge showerhead that drenched you in a rainforest-like deluge, and jets of water that sprayed from the side. As we got increasingly soaked I pushed Emz against the wall and kissed her intensely. As I pulled away the sight of her long black hair dripping water down, eyes wide and mouth open with emotion, was as powerful and sensual a sight as I could remember. I grabbed my cock, again hard by now, and rubbed the head against her pussy lips. I then quickly turned her around, bent her over and grasped her beautiful ass cheeks as I slid my dick into her pussy for a few thrusts, my hips bucking involuntarily as the water poured down on us.

Even encounters like these must come to an end, so Emz and I dried off and dressed, and shared a farewell lunch together. We came back to my room for her to get her bag, and lay down on the bed and kissed lightly, both knowing that she had to go to get ready for the day's work, and I my own plans. After Emz left, I received the routine call from the front desk staff checking that everything was allright; it really felt appropriate when the clerk told me "Sir, your girlfriend is leaving".

My time with Emz was very reminiscent of a total GFE contact I had on my last trip to Angeles, in summer 2013. At that time, I decided to venture off Fields and try a place I had seen recommended, Treasure Island on Santos Street. It was an afternoon visit, and once my eyes got adjusted to the darkness they settled on a slender dancer in Daisy Duke shorts and t-shirt, clearly in her mid-20's but intriguing to me. I sat next to her and bought her a lady drink, and soon our chit-chat made it apparent that I needed to take her out. Hanibelle's intelligence was obvious, and the fact that she spend half the week in Manila at culinary school made me really want to cook something up with her.

We went over to my room in nearby Pacific Breeze, where Hanibelle took control in a way I hadn't experienced before. After showering Hanibelle left the bathroom wearing nothing but one of my button-down shirts, the first time I had ever been treated to that sexy move. She crawled onto the bed and over me, teasing me all the while as I got her out of my clothing. After sucking me she lay back in missionary, and expressed surprise when I condomed up, the first time she claimed to have had that happen! I was fine with wearing it and soon slid my dick into Hanibelle's wet pussy. Here she took control again, as she basically fucked me, not the other way around although I was on top: Hanibelle bucked her hips powerfully so she was the main driver of the action, raising her pussy up to capture my cock. It was really something new for me, and a sweaty session full of passionate, deep kissing.

Predictably hungry afterward, we took a long walk hand in hand, up to Perimeter to find a place to eat. This felt so much like a date to me, so I wanted to find the right place. We eventually settled on the poolside restaurant at Angeles Beach Club, where we fed each other and shared good conversation. It was possibly the most date-like experience I had ever had with a working girl. We triked back to Pacific Breeze and topped the night off with another energetic about of sex before Hanibelle had to head out, needing a good night's sleep before school the next day. While I would have liked to spend the night with her I understood (and was able to find other company for later that night anyway, Babylynn from Raymond Street). I had some regrets that I did not look for Hanibelle on my most recent visit, but I figured the chances of finding her would have been slim and take up my valuable, limited time; and as it turned out Emz was a fine proxy this time around.

Ibn Buttita
03-28-15, 02:35
Back to the recent past, this January: I was happy that I opted for Central Park's late checkout option, half the room price for a 6 PM departure, since this gave me a base for afternoon activities. I was deeply moved by Emz, but I am no mongering monogamist, and I had a big, empty bed in a fancy hotel to make use of for a few more hours. Time was fleeting, however, as by the time I got over to Fields it was after 3 PM, giving me less than 3 hours to use that room before my late checkout ended.

I dropped into half a dozen or so bars on Fields, whichever were open, basically. The common denominator I noticed was that selection was weak. At a number of places, like Red and Shipwrecked, there were young-looking girls available, but I had doubts about establishing good rapport with them as well as about their sexual skills (and maybe even their age). And in the end they were appealing for their youth more than their inherent good looks. So I went back to Viking, half of my mind hoping to find Jean to take her out, and the other hoping for a new girl. Jean was indeed on stage but I could not make up my mind so I stepped out again; within a few minutes I came to my senses and realized that it would be impossible to replicate with another girl the fantastic sex that Jean and I had the day before, certainly with so little time to play with.

So I returned to Viking and told the waitress from the day before that I would be barfining Jean, plucking her just as she was summoned to another guy's table for a lady drink. I guess I had dibs, and so after she got changed Jean and I headed out, again walking separately so as to avoid the gaze of the mamasan at Shipwrecked.

Back at the room we resumed where we had left off, with passionate kissing and a toe-curling blow job from Jean. Her lips were truly a wonder of nature. We got to fucking and I was taken by surprise when we moved into missionary, and Jean insisted "fuck me hard. " I always assumed that the smaller Pinays required more gentle handling, but apparently not in all cases! The familiarity from the repeat session had made all the difference in this closing encounter's success. To make the trip to Angeles really end on a high note, I took Jean out for dinner to Swiss Inn, where my comfort food favorite, pork cordon bleu awaited, and I walked this cutie back to Fields under my umbrella, protecting her from the rain, and we parted with a kiss. It turned out to be an ideal end to my Philippines trip.

Streetlooker
03-28-15, 07:54
To Street looker.

What so fun about that I refer laying on the beach of Bali or Borocay watching girl go by ,3 week in AC is just too damn long for me I get bored after 3 days just not enough thing to do at AC for me.

Fast eddie 48.Almost everyone I have ever met or talked to says the same thing about AC has you have. Boring with not enough things to do. However most guys do not appreciate the art of doing nothing and must be entertained at all times. I have the ability to waste many days doing nothing but sleeping and sitting by the pool at the hotel It takes years to master this art.

Streetlooker
03-28-15, 08:06
Was that you using wechat at Kokomoes?I rarely use the internet while I am in AC. I got a long fine without it 28 yrs ago (1st AC trip in 1987) and I get along without it now. Don; t ever use a cell phone there either. Anonymity.

Sxxxx
03-28-15, 08:37
Almost everyone I have ever met or talked to says the same thing about AC has you have. Boring with not enough things to do. However most guys do not appreciate the art of doing nothing and must be entertained at all times. I have the ability to waste many days doing nothing but sleeping and sitting by the pool at the hotel It takes years to master this art.I agree, doing nothing is an acquired skill. Its harder to do nothing, than do something. Well done, congratulations.

Oosik
03-28-15, 10:23
It takes years to master this art.The more fortunate of us get paid to learn it: I worked for the government!

Tomasb
03-28-15, 10:43
Yes, I agree that's it's a skill requiring a vast degree of patience, inner peace, and a profound other worldly talent of perfecting the art of laziness.

Since I worked for the government several times in my career in a consulting capacity, I found that gave me excellent background in doing nothing while appearing to be busy. Type A personalities need not apply.


Almost everyone I have ever met or talked to says the same thing about AC has you have. Boring with not enough things to do. However most guys do not appreciate the art of doing nothing and must be entertained at all times. I have the ability to waste many days doing nothing but sleeping and sitting by the pool at the hotel It takes years to master this art.

GoodEnough
03-28-15, 12:21
Almost everyone I have ever met or talked to says the same thing about AC has you have. Boring with not enough things to do. However most guys do not appreciate the art of doing nothing and must be entertained at all times. I have the ability to waste many days doing nothing but sleeping and sitting by the pool at the hotel It takes years to master this art.And let us not forget how many empty hours can be productively frittered away while engaging in inane conversations with equally indolent expats staying at the hotel, many of whom are also engaged in honing their whiling away time skills. My problem is not the fact that here's jothing to do; like many of you I too have served our government in a consulting capacity and have well developed lethargy skills. My problem is fearing that after 3-4 days of total emptiness my brain will turn permanently into pudding.

GE.

Fastpiston
03-29-15, 00:35
And let us not forget how many empty hours can be productively frittered away while engaging in inane conversations with equally indolent expats staying at the hotel, many of whom are also engaged in honing their whiling away time skills. My problem is not the fact that here's jothing to do; like many of you I too have served our government in a consulting capacity and have well developed lethargy skills. My problem is fearing that after 3-4 days of total emptiness my brain will turn permanently into pudding.

GE.GE, too true. Most conversations center around:

The best places to eat in Angeles -that discussion is usually very brief.

Cheapest hot dog stand.

Where can one buy Loperamide.

Which day of the week will one get the best exchange rate.

Where is Samar.

My time in the military.

Who is in town and who is not.

The Runner last night.

Who that other dumb ass sitting over there is wearing that tee shirt.

The waitress,

How my Filipina girlfriend is unbelievably sweet and totally dedicated to me and how she was forced to have her two kids by a very bad Filipino.

Where to get my shoe fixed.

The cheapest flight to Bangkok.

Best billiard table.

Best bar,

Where & when is the next bar show with free finger food.

Free drink tickets.

Latest World News: latest bar raid.

Best San Miguel.

Last trip to Subic. How very different the girls are there compared with Angeles.

Hard not to be a pudding in Angeles!

Amjeck
03-29-15, 05:59
Almost everyone I have ever met or talked to says the same thing about AC has you have. Boring with not enough things to do. There's loads of stuff to do in AC if you have a creative mind and explore.

Sharka
03-29-15, 10:42
doing nothing but sleeping and sitting by the pool at the hotel It all depends on the reason why we visit places like AC.

For me, it's about getting away from my work and home to be in a place I can relax if I wanted to or go all out and be a non stop party animal. I've stayed in AC for weeks at a time and never felt truly bored. I'm there to get away from the stress of my job and just relax by the pool or go and watch the girls. It's the only reason why I'm in AC.

Sharka
03-29-15, 10:49
Have not been back to AC in the last year.

Have the Santos or Raymond bars improved? Or they still dying a slow death?

Last time I was there yr ago only one bar open on Santos with 3 fruglies working.

Raymond St was mainly closed except for 1-2 bars with 2 fruglies in each bar and none under 30 yrs old.

Not sure if things have improved but I figured it couldn't be any worst than what I saw last time.

Sxxxx
03-29-15, 11:10
Have not been back to AC in the last year.

Have the Santos or Raymond bars improved? Or they still dying a slow death?

Last time I was there yr ago only one bar open on Santos with 3 fruglies working.

Raymond St was mainly closed except for 1-2 bars with 2 fruglies in each bar and none under 30 yrs old.

Not sure if things have improved but I figured it couldn't be any worst than what I saw last time.Yes the bar raids before was the last nail in the coffin. Passed by Santos ones, number of times couple of weeks ago. Dead, dead, dead.

And it might be they do nothing on the premises since raids, too. Concept has been destroyed by raids.

Dark Vader
03-29-15, 11:28
Have not been back to AC in the last year.

Have the Santos or Raymond bars improved? Or they still dying a slow death?

Last time I was there yr ago only one bar open on Santos with 3 fruglies working.

Raymond St was mainly closed except for 1-2 bars with 2 fruglies in each bar and none under 30 yrs old.

Not sure if things have improved but I figured it couldn't be any worst than what I saw last time.Currently 2 bars open on Raymond and at least 3 on Santos. All run day / night shifts but girls will drift in and out and some may not show up every day. So depending upon when you visit you may or may not find something to your liking but IMHO one can usually find someone fuckable. YMMV of course.

Sammon
03-29-15, 13:19
Have not been back to AC in the last year.

Have the Santos or Raymond bars improved? Or they still dying a slow death?

Last time I was there yr ago only one bar open on Santos with 3 fruglies working.

Raymond St was mainly closed except for 1-2 bars with 2 fruglies in each bar and none under 30 yrs old.

Not sure if things have improved but I figured it couldn't be any worst than what I saw last time.In Angeles bars come and bars go. Irrespective of new rules and regulations, bar raids, arresting of girls, mama sans and managers and owners Angeles city as a monger in destination will stay. Only way it will die is if they close all the bars and venues.

Angeles city has developed from a not well known secret when I first visited there early nineties into a very well known destination. Too many people are entirely dependent one way or another the way it is. Whole economy runs on visiting tourists be it be bars, girls, massages, hotels, restaurants, shopping etc.

As far girls there is a continuous supply from myriad of places in Philippines. When I go to provinces almost everybody has heard of Angeles city. So much so many of the normal girls I have met want me to take them to Angeles city to see what it is. I have taken couple of girls but they hated it.

As for your query nobody can really give you a right answer about which bars are open, which bars has good looking girls, which BJ bars are open etc. You need to hit the road yourself and see.

Streetlooker
03-30-15, 00:24
And let us not forget how many empty hours can be productively frittered away while engaging in inane conversations with equally indolent expats staying at the hotel, many of whom are also engaged in honing their whiling away time skills. My problem is not the fact that here's jothing to do; like many of you I too have served our government in a consulting capacity and have well developed lethargy skills. My problem is fearing that after 3-4 days of total emptiness my brain will turn permanently into pudding.

GE.What is Doing something vs doing nothing have to do with anything?

Streetlooker
03-30-15, 00:29
It all depends on the reason why we visit places like AC.

For me, it's about getting away from my work and home to be in a place I can relax if I wanted to or go all out and be a non stop party animal. I've stayed in AC for weeks at a time and never felt truly bored. I'm there to get away from the stress of my job and just relax by the pool or go and watch the girls. It's the only reason why I'm in AC.AC has everything a guy needs to distress his otherwise mundane boring work life. Eat sleep fuck repeat. Its everything you wish you was doing instead of being at work.

RumBuddy
03-30-15, 01:19
AC has everything a guy needs to distress his otherwise mundane boring work life. Eat sleep fuck repeat. Its everything you wish you was doing instead of being at work.I couldn't agree more. Some people need to complain to feel good. True, there is not much to do in AC, but I only go there for one thing. To meet and spend nice times with nice women. The food isn't the best, not enough veggies available, but I wil only be there for a week. I will be eating organic (DATY).

Capt Munch
03-30-15, 14:09
Angeles city has developed from a not well known secret when I first visited there early nineties into a very well known destination. Too many people are entirely dependent one way or another the way it is. Whole economy runs on visiting tourists be it be bars, girls, massages, hotels, restaurants, shopping etc.I am NOT saying that there are PLENTY of people dependent on the Entertainment district for their income. . . .

BUT. . . . A blanket statement of the whole economy (of Angeles City) being dependent on the tourist dollars. . . (? ? ? ?).

Sure. . . The girls / the overpriced TRIKEs / the Vitamin salesmen / the beggars / some hotels & restaurants etc. Would NOT do well if the Entertainment district were to shut down BUT most mongers don't see much of Angeles past the McDo at the end of Fields and Margarita Station or Ponytails at the other end.

A large amount of business takes place outside of that area with regular everyday Filipinos going about their business in an everyday mode.

Just as an example. . . . How much of the business at Nepo or Jenra Malls in downtown Angeles comes from the Entertainment district?

Or. . . How many of the students at Holy Angel University / Angeles University Foundation are there studying so that they can find work in Fields?

If so. . . How do any of the other places in the Philippines exist with the "BIG" tourist dollars?

Always love these comments. :-the.

Munch.

D Cups
03-30-15, 16:39
QUOTE=Sammon;1700458 Angeles city has developed from a not well known secret when I first visited there early nineties into a very well known destination. Well for us old-timers, The City Of Angels was quite well known amongst military types in the 60's and 70's. I was lucky enough to be stationed there at Clark. Unbelievable non-stop 24/7 fun with the cutest, sexiest girls I have ever seen and done. Going back there now is time travel for me reminiscent of my youth.

Psychman
03-30-15, 21:28
A strange comment or two about their being nothing to do, and that somehow enjoying downtime is equated with sloth.

My free time?

Two hours of massage per day.

An hour and half of working out.

An hour of walking around.

I read an hour or two a day (book, ho hum post-internet, but try it sometime!

My personal hobby (writing) for about two hours a day.

So, for me, the free time and lack of structure post no problem. For those that do, its the same problem anywhere, and makes retirement a *****, for those that are there. Those who develop absorbing life interests and use their free time for both joy AND meaning have an easier time of it, regardless of the stage of life, IMHO.

Dg8787
03-30-15, 22:22
It is nothing to do when I have no one to do. It is boring when I am not boring.

Usually I get a 2 hour massage in between my boring sessions.

Lefeu
03-31-15, 07:37
My free time?

Two hours of massage per day.
An hour and half of working out.
An hour of walking around.
I read an hour or two a day (book, ho hum post-internet, but try it sometime!
My personal hobby (writing) for about two hours a day.Excellent! You appear to have solved the problem of what to do in AC, besides mongering. Next time I am there, I will borrow a page from your book, and will buy you a beer and dinner if I get a chance to meet you.

Conan23
03-31-15, 22:27
A massive hurricane called "Maysak" just past Micronesia and will most likely hit Northern Philippines on Sunday. Current forecast has "Maysak" strengthening tomorrow but then weakening before hitting the Philippines on Sunday April 5th.

RumBuddy
04-04-15, 00:00
I will be in AC next month. What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable? IS it worth while or do I deal with the normal street restaurants. I will eat Korean on Walking street and Philly's for breakfast. Just want to know some more. Don't want to eat Jollibee's every day.

Conan23
04-04-15, 02:16
What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable?.ABC hotel has decent food. Also you can take a trike to SM Mall where there are more choices, the Pizza Hut there is pretty good.

JustTK
04-04-15, 04:45
The heart of Santos Street ST bars seems to have been ripped out. I only spotted 2 down there now. A lame looking Black Pearl, and Perfect Life. Better looking choices. Excluding the 1-girl bar on the corner of Pac Brz.

So I wonder if anyone knows of any others down Fields (except for Raymonde St ones)? Also, anyone know anything about Ahleah Massage (opp Pac Brz Hotel) - would be handy if the do STs. Or Honky Tonk Bar?

SxRay
04-04-15, 05:57
I will be in AC next month. What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable? IS it worth while or do I deal with the normal street restaurants. I will eat Korean on Walking street and Philly's for breakfast. Just want to know some more. Don't want to eat Jollibee's every day.You can try the restaurant at the Swiss Chalet Hotel and the Tequila Reef restaurant. Those two places are near the corner of Santos Street and Real Street. Both are reasonably priced and recommended.

Screaming Beaver
04-04-15, 07:15
I met up with Dashing Don last night and squired him around town. Once again, I tried to tell him about tipping, or lack thereof. What does he do? He starts by tipping twenty percent in the restaurants. If that were not bad enough I took him to Pony Tails and pointed out the white tagged girls are every bit as nice as the green tags. For once he listened to me and bar fined a white tagged girl for 2 k. This morning I meet up with him for breakfast at Margarita Station. Even though I told him the customary tip is 100 pesos he actually bragged to me he tipped her 1000 pesos. I'm beginning to think he is doing this just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.

Mogwai
04-04-15, 08:04
I will be in AC next month. What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable? IS it worth while or do I deal with the normal street restaurants. I will eat Korean on Walking street and Philly's for breakfast. Just want to know some more. Don't want to eat Jollibee's every day.Swiss Chalet and Pacific Breeze.

Dg8787
04-05-15, 01:40
I will be in AC next month. What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable? IS it worth while or do I deal with the normal street restaurants. I will eat Korean on Walking street and Philly's for breakfast. Just want to know some more. Don't want to eat Jollibee's every day.What price range are you talking about? Like P250-350 per entree? P350-450?

RumBuddy
04-05-15, 03:20
What price range are you talking about? Like P250-350 per entree? P350-450?$250 - 350.

JustTK
04-05-15, 06:07
There's an okay Indian restaurant next to Phillies Sport Bar, down the side road. Also a cheap Middle Eastern Restaurant (The Red Sea) down by where Blue Nile once was (McD end of Fields).

Mostly, I find the options in most hotels and restaurants dreadful. Seem to be dating back 30 years. The food is one of the worst aspects of Phils, but you just got to take the rough with the smooth.


I will be in AC next month. What hotels can I go to and eat that are reasonable? IS it worth while or do I deal with the normal street restaurants. I will eat Korean on Walking street and Philly's for breakfast. Just want to know some more. Don't want to eat Jollibee's every day.

RumBuddy
04-05-15, 16:19
Mostly, I find the options in most hotels and restaurants dreadful. Seem to be dating back 30 years. The food is one of the worst aspects of Phils, but you just got to take the rough with the smooth.Thanks for your input. I guess we are not there for the fine cuisine just fine women.