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Dg8787
04-05-15, 17:41
$250 - 350.These are restaurants that come to mind that I have been to that had pretty good food.

Bretto's Prestige located ground floor in Tune Hotel building. Most items in P350 range. Has a great thin crust Hawaiian pizza.

Clarkton Hotel has a nice restaurant inside the ground floor. I can't remember what I ate but it was good and around P350.

ABC Hotel has a nice restaurant. I think there are some items in the P350 range but most of it is higher.

You can walk to ABC from Fields, short Jeepney ride to Bretto's or Clarkton.

There are a couple of clean restaurants not located in hotels that I have had good meals. Fortunes Hong Kong Seafood restaurant on MacArthur. Short walk from Fields, turn right at McDonalds to MacArthur and walk a few blocks and it is on your right side. There is Cafe "D" on Teodoro Street. Manson Drugs is at Teodoro and Fields next to 7-11, just walk down Manson side of Teodoro (opposite of going to Jollibee) a few blocks (past Bliss Massage) and it is on your right side. Fortunes is P350+ and Cafe "D" is <P300.

Sxxxx
04-07-15, 03:39
To get off the fine food restaurants subject, I ponder the following, and wonder if someone has an answer.

Commonly we are told the girls leave Angeles and go home to their provinces to enjoy family reunion during this important religious time, Easter.

Was anyone in Angeles during Easter and did they experience a lack of girls because of the much talked about exodus of girls during Easter?

I thought Easter would be an exciting time to be in Angeles. Is this so, or is it best to avoid Angeles and Philippines during Easter?

Any response much appreciated.

Red Kilt
04-07-15, 09:10
I notice a lot of guys have started slipping between using dollars and pesos when they quote prices.

If you have been to the Phils you can easily spot the instances where guys say $250 - 350 for an appetiser when you know they mean P250 - 350.

However, for newbies, when dollars and pesos are confused they might wonder at some prices quoted (an AC ride in a bus costing $600 in one post and P 2000 for a car/taxi in another one).

I respectfully suggest that you use the $ sign only when you actually mean dollars (US), and use P or php when you mean pesos.

BTW, with the rather large current difference between the USD and the Aussie dollar (AUD), it might help to look for differentiation between those currencies too if you are running on a tight budget and looking for accurate costings.

RumBuddy
04-08-15, 02:18
I notice a lot of guys have started slipping between using dollars and pesos when they quote prices.

If you have been to the Phils you can easily spot the instances where guys say $250 - 350 for an appetiser when you know they mean P250 - 350.

However, for newbies, when dollars and pesos are confused they might wonder at some prices quoted (an AC ride in a bus costing $600 in one post and P 2000 for a car/taxi in another one).

I respectfully suggest that you use the $ sign only when you actually mean dollars (US), and use P or php when you mean pesos.

BTW, with the rather large current difference between the USD and the Aussie dollar (AUD), it might help to look for differentiation between those currencies too if you are running on a tight budget and looking for accurate costings.Point taken, but does anyone really think someone would pay 250 US dollars for a meal in Angeles, it's all about the pussy, man.

WestCoast1
04-08-15, 03:09
Point taken, but does anyone really think someone would pay 250 US dollars for a meal in Angeles, it's all about the pussy, man.Yes, it leaves the mind to wonder, and there are many more lurkers out there than there are posters. Newbs could make the mistake. Lets use 'USD', 'AUD', and 'p' (or similar). Its fine also to leave the 'p' off completely (p1000 becomes 1000).

Freezone
04-09-15, 01:12
Point taken, but does anyone really think someone would pay 250 US dollars for a meal in Angeles, it's all about the pussy, man.Or he could've implied the meal was the pussy, but at $250. That's expensive pussy LOL.

Yeah, it's a mistake but it's a common one even among experienced mongers as I sometimes forget and use wrong $ signs depending on which country I'm posting about.

Freezone
04-09-15, 01:20
To avoid confusion, I ALWAYS put the amount in the currency of the country you are reporting about. This way no matter which country others are from they can easily change that amount to their home currency. Not everyone here is from the US, Auzzie, UK etc. I know a few from Singapore and sometimes they post it as dollars on other boards as the currency in Singapore is also called the dollar but it's Singapore dollar and not US dollar. Difference is about 60%.

JustTK
04-09-15, 04:46
I am here now and was here in AC at Easter. Maybe some went home but not noticeable. Plenty of fine looking women still around. No problems there.


To get off the fine food restaurants subject, I ponder the following, and wonder if someone has an answer.

Commonly we are told the girls leave Angeles and go home to their provinces to enjoy family reunion during this important religious time, Easter.

Was anyone in Angeles during Easter and did they experience a lack of girls because of the much talked about exodus of girls during Easter?

I thought Easter would be an exciting time to be in Angeles. Is this so, or is it best to avoid Angeles and Philippines during Easter?

Any response much appreciated.

Sxxxx
04-09-15, 09:27
I am here now and was here in AC at Easter. Maybe some went home but not noticeable. Plenty of fine looking women still around. No problems there.Not noticeable. That's a reassuring comment. Thanks for your intel. Intend to be there next Easter.

Switched
04-09-15, 14:37
To get off the fine food restaurants subject, I ponder the following, and wonder if someone has an answer.

Commonly we are told the girls leave Angeles and go home to their provinces to enjoy family reunion during this important religious time, Easter.
Was anyone in Angeles during Easter and did they experience a lack of girls because of the much talked about exodus of girls during Easter?
I thought Easter would be an exciting time to be in Angeles. Is this so, or is it best to avoid Angeles and Philippines during Easter?
Any response much appreciated.I was in Angeles the week before Easter and have a couple of female contacts there in different bars. I asked them that very question as I was tempted to stage my trip over Easter but decided to go cautious at the last minute.

The consensus I have is that very few girls go back to the provinces. Most bars make it difficult for girls to have any time off or holidays. There are also very few customers in the bars, particularly from Wednesday to Monday but the bars are still full of women.

One of the girls from a bar just outside of fields told me that on Wed and Thur, they had only 1 customer. Several girls swarmed him and he left relatively quickly.

Sir Lancelot
04-09-15, 22:46
This is a continuation of my diary which has appeared on the Hong Kong and Manila threads. Please note that 7 days of this trip were spent in China where I didn't find any action so did not post on the forum.

Day 16, Angeles.

I was woken by my alarm at 10.30 am. Macca had booked a taxi to take us to Angeles at midday and I hoped to have a quickie with Jonalyn before I set off. But she was sleeping so peacefully I hit the snooze button and fell back asleep.

By 11 we were both awake, curled up and chatting. At one point she looked me in the eye and asked whether I would go with any girls while I was in Angeles. I planned to go with at least one girl a day but I didn't tell her that, I told her I was just going to Angeles to support my lady-loving friends Owen and Macca and the bars there don't interest me. If I was pinocchio my nose would have impaled her.

"I'll miss you" she told me and I would miss her too. She was a great girl. When I'm in Asia I want to fuck as many girls as possibly but if Jonalyn lived in England, I'd happily give her the keys to my flat. She seemed to really like me so I told her that I'd take her out for dinner when I got back to Manila. She perked up and went for a shower while I packed.

Ten minutes later I had finished packing but she was still in the shower. These girls love to make the most of hotel amenities! I began to pace around and check my watch. The taxi would arrive soon. After five more minutes the sound of running water stopped and another five minutes later she came out of the bathroom and got changed. In your own time love. We took the lift downstairs together and I kissed her goodbye. The taxi was already waiting but I needed to check out and to do that they had to send someone up to my room to see whether I got my 1000 peso deposit back. By the time I got in to the taxi outside it was ten past 12 and Macca had a disapproving look on his face. I blamed my tardiness on Jonalyn.

We drove the short distance to pick Owen up and then set off on our way to Angeles. The sun was shining, the roads were clear and the mood was upbeat. Owen and Macca had enjoyed Manila more than I thought so I was excited to show them the 'gogo capital of the world', Angeles.

The trip took two hours and cost 3000 pesos including tolls. We were dropped off at Macca's hotel, Orchid Inn, and then Owen and I walked to our hotels nearby. It was blisteringly hot so I was glad when I arrived at Appartelle Royal. We arranged to meet up in an hour on Fields Avenue and Owen went in search of his hotel, 950 Condotel.

I pre-booked Appartelle Royal on Agoda for 1650 pesos a night. I've stayed there several times before and have always been happy with the room and location. It's easy to walk past as it's a small hotel with ten rooms and the entrance is just one solitary door next to Camelot gogo bar (there is a statue of a man in full body armour outside who I always refer to as my hotel security). I climbed the stairs and a chubby girl sitting next to reception remembered me from three years earlier. I checked in and she showed me to my room. It was spacious with a large dressing area in front of the wardrobes, a seated area next to a well-stocked fridge and a decent sized bathroom. There was satellite TV, air-con and a safe but the best feature was a full length mirror alongside the bed! Every room in Appartelle has them, one of the main reasons I choose to base myself here each visit.

I stood in front of the air-con for five minutes to cool down and then unpacked. I needed to get some money out. Prior to the trip I read a few cases of skimming devices used on ATM's in Angeles, so I went to Wild Orchid Hotel on A. Santos Road which has an ATM inside the foyer. Like most ATM's in Philippines its maximum withdrawal was 10,000 pesos so I used my card twice to withdraw 20,000. I deposited the majority of it in the safe in my room and then went to meet the guys for lunch.

We had agreed to meet at Kokomoz, which does excellent food and offers a perfect people-watching spot overlooking Fields Avenue. Hawkers walked up and down selling viagra, smartphones and even in one case, bows and arrows! I ordered a San Miguel and picked beef and broccoli from the extensive menu. "I know I'm going to like it here" Owen said to me as he watched two pretty girls walk past.

Macca arrived looking flustered. He told us that his room at Orchid Inn was terrible as it didn't have a window and was very small. He'd got a special deal on a 'standard room' for 1000 pesos a night but said he couldn't bring himself to stay there (in fairness to Orchid Inn I should point out that their bigger rooms look superior and the hotel has a swimming pool and decent restaurant). Macca went off to sort it out as Owen and I tucked in to our food. Afterwards I went back to my hotel to catch up on some sleep in preparation for the night ahead.

My alarm woke me and I made myself a coffee to wake up. I was excited. As much as I love exploring Asia's pay-for-play scenes (and in the last two years I've developed a taste for Pattaya), Fields Avenue is my favourite hunting ground in Asia.

We met at Kokomoz at 7 pm and Macca was in better spirits. He'd checked in to a swanky hotel ten minutes away called Prime Asia, which cost 3000 per night. He told us it was more than he would usually spend but he had done well for himself in the months preceding the trip. He's a singer and the bookings came flooding in, presumably due to the wonderful poster I designed for him.

Fields Avenue comes alive at night. Groups of young 'Hello girls' stood outside each bar and there was a lively atmosphere. It was like Walking Street in Pattaya without the river of tourists, Russian men with mullets and Japanese tour groups. It's just mongers and girls here. We watched pretty girls walk past as we sipped our beers. It's a shame freelancers have a bad reputation on Fields Avenue because there were some lovely girls.

It was up to me to choose the bars tonight and there was only one place to start. We walked in to ATLANTIS at 7.30 pm, a huge theater-like gogo bar with 70 girls crammed on the circular stage in the middle and three balconies overhead. I wanted to bring Owen and Macca here due to the sheer scale of the place and the number of girls. They'd been to many gogo bars in Thailand but nothing could compare to this. We ordered a Red Horse (125 pesos) and I scanned around. The quality of girls was exceptional. Straight away I saw five or six young honeys I'd happily marry tomorrow.

I recognised the manager and he told me that prices were still 3000 for girls wearing green badges and 1700 for those wearing white. Every girl on stage was wearing a green badge. He told me "we hardly have any white badge girls these days but two started yesterday who are very pretty". I noticed that none of the girls wore numbers, instead they had name badges. The manager told me that they had to change "after pressure from the Town Hall" but the problem is that the girls always want to change their name! Haha.

Whenever girls left the stage they paraded around the bar and said 'Hello' to all of the customers which I thought was a nice touch. There were some fabulous girls. The prettiest I saw was called April but realistically I could bar-fine most of these girls and be perfectly happy! They were all young, sweet and smiley with the occasional stunner thrown in for good measure. Sitting in front of me a girl was feeding a Japanese customer yakatori. She was facing in my direction and kept smiling discreetly to me. She was a flirty little thing so I waved and made a note of her face. Owen was surrounded by three smiling waitresses and Macca looked like a kid in a toy shop perving on all of these pretty girls.

I wanted them to see lots of bars tonight so I told them "five minute warning" and we drank up. It had been an excellent start to the night. Outside a young vendor approached Owen with a tray of cigarettes. "I no smoke" Owen said. The young boy thought quickly and said "viagra?" to which Owen replied "I no have sex". To be fair to Owen, he has some good one-liners from time to time.

We walked slowly down the middle of the street, admiring the Hello girls in their cute outfits. They were all young and pretty and tried to persuade us to enter their bar with a flutter of their eyelashes as we walked past.

On my last visit to Angeles, Typhoon was one of my favourite bars but it is now called MONSOON. 'Would it blow us away?' I wondered as we entered. It's a very intimate layout with one narrow stage in the middle and benches either side. You are extremely close to the girls so it's easy to build rapport. There were 20 girls squeezed on stage but it was a disappointing lineup, including a few girls who I found it hard to believe ever got bar-fined. One of them looked like she had a beer belly. I didn't see any girls of the quality of Gillian who I bar-fined from here on my last visit. But it's always worth staying in these bars to see the second dance shift and sure enough the quality picked up. A tiny girl with a big smile danced with great energy and I liked the look of a shy girl with pleated hair. Each time she caught me looking over she looked away (before glancing over a few seconds later to see if I was still looking). Owen was flirting with a cheeky young girl on stage as Britney Spears sang "I'm not that innocent". I enjoyed the irony. The prettiest was a 'Hello girl' standing near the door wearing a smart uniform.

The word bar-fine isn't used in Angeles any more (most bars either call it 'early release' or 'take-out') . In Monsoon you buy the girl a 2500 peso bottle of 'Party Animal', a sickly sweet pink cocktail. A waitress goes through the charade of bringing the cocktail over to your table and your choice of girl will usually take just one sip and then leave with you. The bar gets the money and you get your girl (and the waitress no doubt empties what wasn't drunk back in to the bottle).

Another bar that has changed its name is CENTAURO which was formerly known as Carousel. It was exactly the same inside as I remembered and still had a fairground carousel in the middle, slowly rotating to show off the girls. I'm not sure it needed to change its name. We got stools next to the moving stage. There were 25 girls and several were very pretty, smiling down to us as they slowly rotated past. Two shy girls clung tightly on to a plastic horse and there was a lovely girl with long curly hair wearing a skimpy blue bra and panties. The girls wore no names or numbers, making it difficult for me to identify my favourites. The second dance shift was equally as impressive and I spotted a 9/10. She had flawless skin, a beautiful face and big blowjob lips, the type of girl you see staring down at you from the big billboards that line the motorways here. A girl with a spectacular body danced on the edge of the carousel, her boots dangerously close to knocking my beer over. The bar-fine here is 3000 pesos.

DRAGON'S DEN impressed me three years ago and I bar-fined a lovely girl called Ann (from experience girls called Ann never fail to deliver in Asia). It was half past 9 and it was the same dark, lively venue that I remembered with 15 girls dancing on stage. They wore khaki style vests and danced with tremendous energy, like they were in military training. But once again Owen didn't waste any time chatting up a pretty waitress. Most customers target the dancers in these places but not Owen! She left her notepad on the table in front of me so I grabbed it, stood up and asked Owen "lady-drink for girl, sir?" If looks could kill.

Macca and I sat on two comfy chairs next to the stage but we didn't see any girls dancing that tempted us. I noticed some lovely lookers sat around the bar though, watching the show. After a while the stage cleared and eight elegantly dressed spotlight dancers lined up at the back of the stage and each took it in turns to dance sexily at the front to slow music. Number 58 was extremely cute. I was tempted to buy her a drink but by the time she had finished her dance we would be ready to leave. I had imposed strict time guidelines on Owen and Macca to ensure that we visited plenty of bars tonight, so I called 'five minute warning' and we drank up. Owen had bought a lady-drink (300 pesos) for the waitress and I asked him whether he was going to bar-fine her. He told me that he had discreetly got her number instead.

I wanted us to go to Blue Nile next, a rich hunting ground for me in previous trips. Sadly it is no longer open so we went to another Egyptian themed bar, GRAND PHAROAH, lured in by a gaggle of great looking Hello girls outside. The bar is on the 3rd floor and we took the elevator up. It has a unique layout with a big double-decker stage on which 30 girls danced. All were young and slim and I spotted a very pretty girl at the front. It was difficult to see exactly how pretty because we were near the back but I reckoned she was a 9/10 on my scale. I was just about to ask a waitress to invite the girl over for a lady-drink when the place went dark and the stage cleared. When the lights came on three girls were stood on the top deck of the stage wearing leather catsuits. Miaow. They proceeded to do a very well choreographed dance routine to 'Purple Rain'. One of them was a stunner with a long ponytail but I was more interested in the cute curly haired girl I'd spotted in front of the stage. I scanned around the room but couldn't see her.

In front of us were a group of seven Korean men and all of them had lovely Filipino companions, dressed in casual clothes. Koreans like to bar-fine early and then take their choice of girl to other bars afterwards. One of the girls was wearing a headscarf and had tattoos down her arms and looked every inch a hardcore pro. She had a fantastic face and would be a guaranteed wild time.

Macca went to the toilet and came back bemoaning the fact that he'd accidentally tipped the man inside 100 pesos. It was all he had and he thought it was a 20 peso note. It's big spenders like him that drive the prices up for the rest of us!

It was 10.45 when we walked in to DOLLHOUSE. It has a round stage in the middle, surrounded by seating and overlooked by a balcony full of customers. We got seats next to the stage and watched as four girls did a very impressive routine spinning around a pole to Sia's 'Chandelier'. I spotted some very pretty girls around the bar. On the opposite side of the stage was a lovely looking girl wearing a blue sparkly top and behind her was a topless cutie with tape covering her breasts in a zig-zagged pattern. When the four girls finished their pole routine, 15 spotlight girls stood on the perimeter of the stage and took it in turns slow-dancing at the front. A large Indian man at the front took great pleasure tipping them by placing notes in to their knickers. Macca nudged me and told me to "take a look at the girl in red". We have similar tastes in girls and she was indeed beautiful.

The stage cleared again and 40 girls crammed on. Right next to me was a fresh-faced girl with big chipmunk cheeks. She was cuteness personified but whenever I looked at her she jokingly gave me a fierce stare. I like girls with a silly sense of humour. Amusingly she tore a strip of tape off the leg of one of the spotlight girls, like she was waxing her, and the girl screamed comically. It was funny to watch but not so funny when she pressed the tape on to my forehead and quickly pulled it off! My eyes watered with pain but all the girls found it hilarious. Owen had bought a lady-drink for a pretty girl named Riza, a lovely sort with a radiant smile and tempting curves. It was no surprise that he decided to bar-fine her.

I really liked Dollshouse. There were lots of great girls, a fun atmosphere and unlike my previous visits, there was no lady-drink pressure. The bar-fine was 3000 pesos.

We walked through the back to CRYSTAL PALACE. There were 25 young girls stood shoulder-to-shoulder on the round stage but although the selection was decent, I didn't spot the girl for me. Macca noticed a pretty girl day-dreaming on the balcony that overlooks the stage. There was a shift change and the girls walked off the stage and 25 more got on. Macca's eyes darted around until he saw the girl he's seen day-dreaming. She had a slender body and a nice face but Macca decided not to buy her a drink as he had a "slight doubt about her teeth". He's a perfectionist! He told me that he could always come back on another night.

Most bars have buckets of ping pong balls which you can buy for 200 pesos and then throw to the girls, who pick up a small commission for each one they collect. However, on the balcony above a complete and utter twat of a bald-headed westerner was throwing ping pong balls at the girls, hard and flat, smiling whenever he hit one. It never ceases to amaze me the lack of respect some customers give these girls.

With Owen happily paired off with Riza, it was time for Macca and I to find our girl. We decided to go back to ATLANTIS. It was nearly 1 am and there were still plenty of girls on stage. There were about 30 and I noticed a contender right in the middle, shuffling slowly from side to side like a girl who's been on her feet all night. She was tall and had an air of elegance but when I pointed her out to Macca he said "ladyboy"! I looked at her again, closer this time. She had an angular jawline but I thought it was definitely a girl. But now he'd put the seed of doubt in my mind, I couldn't look at her in the same way.

Girls were firing balloons around the bar and there was a party atmosphere. I spotted two pretty girls sat on the balcony above the stage, one of whom had bright red hair. She reminded me of Kawaii, the flame-haired stunner I repeatedly tried to meet in James S Lee Mansion in Hong Kong, but she was never home. I carefully aimed one of the long balloons at her but it spiraled in the wrong direction and hit another girl on the head. I mouthed 'sorry' to her and she laughed. Owen told us that he was calling it a night and left with Riza. He was clearly delighted with his choice of girl, in fact I've never seen him looking so happy! I was pleased his time in Angeles was starting well.

Time was marching on. It was half past one so Macca and I formed a pact. We'd go back to DOLLSHOUSE, which had impressed us so much earlier, and we HAD to bar-fine a girl. We got good seats that were slightly elevated in front of the stage and ordered drinks. We both had our game face on as we knew that somewhere in this bar was the girl we'd end up spending the night with.

I spotted the beautiful girl in red that Macca had pointed out to me earlier. She had a fantastic face but Macca hesitated. The rest of the girls were wearing skimpy bikinis but she was wearing a dress. He thought that maybe she had been bar-fined so I asked a waitress. She told me that the girl was available and two minutes later she was sat next to Macca's side. She was a stunner up close.

So that was Owen and Macca ticked off, it was now my turn. I studied the stage and saw a cute spotlight girl I'd seen earlier. She was topless and her pert tits were covered in colourful tape. She had a distinctive look facially and a sexy, slim body. I called her down and bought her a lady-drink.

We barely had chance to introduce ourselves when Riza, the girl Owen bar-fined, suddenly appeared at my side looking upset. She explained that when she got back to Owen's hotel she didn't have any ID as she had only been working at the bar for a few weeks. The front-desk warned Owen against taking her in to his room so he went to bed on his own. Riza had tears in her eyes as she explained and kept apologising. She seemed genuinely upset. Macca and I tried to think of a solution. Our first idea was that they could go to Macca's room at Orchid Inn (which he hadn't checked out of) but he didn't have a key. I suggested they could go to a short-time hotel and Macca went outside to phone Owen. He came back five minutes later and told me that Owen wasn't interested, he just wanted to sleep. He'd had his hopes built up and they had come crashing down. He was also 3000 pesos (not to forget three lady-drinks) out of pocket.

I came up with an idea. I asked to speak to the most senior mamasan, a wise looking old dear in a woolen hat. With Riza at my side I explained what had happened. I told her how Riza didn't have her ID and suggested that perhaps the 3000 bar-fine he had paid could be carried over to tomorrow night. It was a long shot so I was surprised when the mamasan agreed straight away and said that she would make sure that Riza had ID tomorrow. Sometimes Dollshouse receives bad reports online but what great customer service! I texted Owen the good news.

Good deed done, I returned my focus to the pretty girl sat next to me. Her name was Jehna and she was 20 years old from Subic. Her lady-drink cost 250 pesos and we clinked bottles and said 'tagay'. She was cute and had a pink bow in her hair but I was picking up bad vibes. She wasn't flirty or talkative and her body language didn't fill me with hope that she'd be a passionate performer in the bedroom. But it was late so I decided to ignore my instinct and bar-fine her anyway. I paid 3000 pesos and she went to get changed.

Unsurprisingly Macca had decided to bar-fine the lady in red. Her name was Maike and sat next to her was her best friend, a definite 10/10 in my books. She had a stunning face and tattoos down her left arm. She was wearing a dress so I presumed that she had returned from an earlier bar-fine (I wondered whether Jehna would do a runner after one pop as well). Macca told me that he was bar-fining Maike tonight but at her suggestion was trying to set up a threesome with the two of them for tomorrow afternoon. If he could pull that off he would enter legendary status in my mind. Threesomes are easy to come by in Asia but not with two girls as pretty as these.

I said goodbye to Macca and his girls and walked back to my hotel with Jehna. She was absolutely tiny. Now she had taken her high-heels off her head was below my shoulder. She was reluctant to hold hands, another bad sign, and when we got back to my room she noticed that her phone had ran out of batteries so asked if she could go to get a recharger. She was gone for twenty minutes and I was just about to go to bed, thinking she'd done a runner, when she walked back in to my room. She was eating a chicken wrap and had bought herself a new recharger for her phone. Amusingly she'd also treated herself to a new dress.

We chatted as she ate her meal and she seemed to loosen up a bit. She put a Tagalog movie on TV and we lay next to each other in bed watching it. It was 4 am and I was tired after a long night and a few too many beers. Normally I like to cap my night off with a fuck but I decided it could wait until morning.

I was disappointed Graham's night had ended badly but aside from that, we had lots of fun, visited lots of bars and there were heaps of pretty girls. Recently there have been bar-raids, for example Nemesis a few weeks earlier, but it's just business as usual on Fields Avenue. The pricing has changed slightly though. Three years ago lots of bars had a two-tier bar-fine system, 1700 and 3000 pesos depending on the girl. These days the top-end price has remained the same but there were very few girls going for 1700 pesos. The Pasha Group bars have also raised their bar-fine price up to 2500 pesos. There was no lady-drink pressure in any of the bars and drink prices seem to be a fairly standard 125 pesos for a bottle of San Miguel. Cheaper prices can be found in happy hours of course.

I drifted off to sleep. I was looking forward to fucking Jehna in the morning.

Sxxxx
04-10-15, 08:37
I was in Angeles the week before Easter and have a couple of female contacts there in different bars. I asked them that very question as I was tempted to stage my trip over Easter but decided to go cautious at the last minute.

The consensus I have is that very few girls go back to the provinces. Most bars make it difficult for girls to have any time off or holidays. There are also very few customers in the bars, particularly from Wednesday to Monday but the bars are still full of women.

One of the girls from a bar just outside of fields told me that on Wed and Thur, they had only 1 customer. Several girls swarmed him and he left relatively quickly.Thanks for the intel, "several girls swarmed him". Doesn't happen to me back home. That's why I go to Angeles.

Sir Lancelot
04-10-15, 18:54
Day 17, Angeles.

Jehna looked pretty as she slept next to me. There was a knock on my door so I quickly put some shorts on and answered. It was Owen, asking if I was still up for going to Scorebirds later to watch the pool party. We'd drunkenly talked about it last night and Owen was keen to go. I agreed to meet him there at 2 pm. "Can't talk" I told him, "I've still got a girl in my room".

I closed the door and noticed that the bed was empty and I heard running water coming from the bathroom. Ever since I bar-fined Jehna I had nagging doubts about her and now the prospect of her doing a runner without having sex loomed closer.

But I needn't have worried. She walked out of the bathroom completely naked. She was a tiny girl but had a lovely slim body with firm tits and big nipples. She crawled on to the bed and hugged up to me, stroking my dick. Within seconds I was rock hard. I fingered her pussy and we kissed for a few minutes but I couldn't wait any longer, so slid a condom on and fucked her in my usual tick-list of positions. I fucked her in mish to start, nice and slow with lots of kissing, then learnt up and fucked her harder and faster, her hair spread across the pillow. One of my favourite positions is to lift one of the girls legs over, so she is still on her back but her hips are twisted so you're entering her sideways. It makes her pussy tight and the girls always love it, especially Filipino's for some reason. Then I lay behind her, both of us on our sides, and fucked her from behind in front of the mirror. I enjoy having a mirror next to the bed for the porn-style views you get when you're fucking your girl.

As always I wanted to finish with her on top so I could admire the view. She squatted over me and lowered herself on, then bounced up and down as I squeezed her firm tits. After a few minutes she lowered her knees on to the bed and rocked her hips back and forth as she gripped my dick tightly with her pussy. I leaned up so we were both upright (lotus position if I remember my kama sutra correctly) and sucked her nipples before she lay back and gave me a great view of me entering her pussy as I shot my load.

It was enjoyable sex with a young hottie but although she did everything I asked, it felt like she was going through the motions. As soon as we finished she went to shower and a few minutes later she was getting changed. No affection, job done. As she put on her new dress in front of the mirror she sang "I'm sexy and I know it" to herself. She saw me laughing and said "you sexy too". Why thank you.

I put on some shorts and a T-shirt, sandals and sunglasses and went to meet Owen at Scorebirds Hotel (on Vian Street near Fields Avenue), for the 'Miss March' pool party. I paid the entrance (295 pesos) and ordered a bottle of San Miguel lemon with one of the three free drink vouchers I was handed. I got a comfy seat near the pool and got chatting with an American ex-pat who told me that he comes to the pool party every Sunday and explained how it works. You get free beads when you enter and throw them to your favourite and the girl at the end with the most beads is crowned the winner. He told me we'd get chance to buy drinks and get to know any of the girls we saw. Since we were chatting I asked him which his favourite bar was in Angeles and he told me that he doesn't go to them much these days, instead he has the phone numbers of lots of gogo girls who call him each night when the bars close looking for a hook-up. He pays 1500 pesos for long-time. That will be me in thirty years time I thought to myself!

Shortly afterwards Owen arrived and we talked about the unfortunate way his night had ended last night. I told him that the mamasan had offered to carry the bar-fine he paid over to tonight and Riza would certainly have her ID this time, but he wasn't interested. He said it would be too awkward and he would put the incident behind him.

The 'Miss March' beauty pageant started and a dozen pretty girls from various bars paraded around the pool in fancy outfits with lots of sparkles and feathers. A few of the girls were spectacular, especially a lovely young specimen from Crystal Palace and a girl in pink wearing fishnets with a dazzling smile. At one point it was possible to bid for your favourite girl to come and sit with you for a drink but there was so much interest in her I decided not to get involved. A small indian guy won and I watched as she sat with him, laughed and joked and clinked glasses. She was a 10/10 without doubt. Sadly I didn't catch the name of which bar she worked at.

Between rounds of the beauty contest, lots of girls in bikinis danced around the pool, wiggled their arses to that 'wiggle wiggle wiggle' tune and splashed about in the water, collecting beads thrown by spectators. Some were cute. These would probably be the more realistic girls to target than the showgirls and I'd imagine you could quite easily collect a few phone numbers at one of these parties.

I was hungry so decided to partake in the all-you-can eat buffet for 295 pesos. The food was excellent and I definitely got full value for money. A pretty girl stood near the door checking that people had their hand stamped (I had my cheek stamped to be different). At one point I was hovering around, holding my plate and wondering what to eat when she said "eat me" and burst out laughing.

The beauty pageant resumed and there was a Miss World style question and answer session. Some of the girls gave good answers that got a round of applause but my favourite moment was when a cute girl got asked what her favourite animal was and she said "My favourite animal is a dog because (long pause), because I like dogs". Brilliant! She got the biggest cheer. The beads were collected and the girl in pink with fishnets was crowned 'Miss March'. 2nd place was the very slim, very pretty girl from Crystal Palace and 3rd place was gorgeous too.

At 5 pm I went back to my room and took the chance to have a siesta in preparation for another long night at the gogo bars. Life in Angeles is a constant cycle of sleeping, drinking, eating and fucking.

At the entrance to Fields Avenue is a Walking Street sign, just like Pattaya. Underneath it a dozen massage girls gather, dressed in smart uniforms and handing out business cards. I took one with 'Veronica' written on the back and another with 'Michelle'. The latter had a list of services that included body-to-body. The thing that struck me most is how young the girls were, probably none a day over 20. I've read that these girls offer extras although full sex often isn't on the menu. It's up to the guy, the girl and his negotiating skills. Some of the girls were pretty. My favourite were a group of three that had pink hair.

I walked in to Kokomoz and saw Owen and Macca sitting at one of the narrow tables in the middle, under a fan slowly whirring on the ceiling. We had a quick drink and I asked them what kind of bars they'd like to be taken to tonight. "More of the same" they said.

I was keen to take them to different places from last night and decided to start at CLUB ASIA, near the MacArthur end of Fields Avenue. Forty girls were crammed on to the long stage and the standard was good. Young, slim, pretty, cute, brown skin, long silky hair, some had tattoos, most didn't. There weren't many customers so we got lots of attention, smiles and winks. Just like Monsoon, the intimate layout of the bar is conducive to building rapport with the girls. I got chatting with a pregnant waitress who five years earlier was probably one of the best looking gogo girls in Angeles. She told me that the bar-fine here is 3000 pesos which seems to be the standard price for the top bars on Fields Avenue.

I liked this place. It had a lively atmosphere, the music was good and there was lots of fun and laughter on stage. A good start to the night.

We went to CRYSTAL PALACE last night but it had been late and often a lot of the best girls have gone by midnight. I wanted to see it early doors and was also hoping to see the stunner I'd seen at the pool party earlier (or 'Miss March Runner-Up' to give her her official title). It was packed with customers and a mamasan pointed us towards seats at the front with a green laser-pen. There were so many girls squeezed on stage that it was difficult to see those that weren't on the front row. The talent was excellent. Only a few of the girls wore name-badges and the one that caught my eye was a slender little thing called Maris. It can't be great being named after a potato. I occasionally caught a glimpse of another pretty girl in the middle but she'd disappear behind the throng of flesh and mass of nubile bodies.

Perhaps it was a combination of the afternoon beers and the many sexy bodies on show but Owen had forgotten his troubles last night and had a big grin on his face. "I'm in love again" he said, staring up to the stage.

Next we went to BODY SHOP, another bar I have fond memories of from my last trip. We walked in through the swinging salon doors and there were 15 girls shuffling about on stage. It's a laid-back expat bar which is always a sign of good value. A petite girl in the middle with a chopped fringe was my favourite but seemed shy and I couldn't capture her gaze. Next to her was a beautiful dark-skinned girl with long curly hair who danced with lots of effort, show-casing her perfect body. From experience good dancers make good lovers. Two fresh-faced young girls were hugging each other on stage. Maybe they were new or maybe they were just cold because often the air-con is switched on high to get the girls dancing more. I was wearing smart jeans and a long-sleeved shirt and I felt chilly, never mind the girls on stage wearing next to nothing.

I went to the toilet and there was a girl in the male cubicle. When she came out I pointed at a sign on the door which said 'No girls. 100 pesos fine'. "I tell mamasan unless you give me kiss" I said with a serious look on her face. She kissed me on the cheek and walked out.

A big group of bikers were in INSOMNIA. Everywhere I looked there was leather, tattoos and dubious facial hair. The music was loud and there were 20 girls on stage dancing with impressive energy. Every song the girls took a few steps to the side which meant from our stool-side vantage point we got a great close-up view of the selection of girls. There were some nice girls and I fondly recalled big-boobed Michelle who I bar-fined from here three years ago. Owen bought a lady-drink for a cute girl called Jenny but after five minutes he leaned across and told me that she was only 18. Normally he'd see that as a good thing but his confidence was obviously shaken after the ID incident last night.

I spotted a Japanese looking girl on stage with fair hair. She saw me looking and smiled. I waved my hand to call her down and she did that cute thing gogo girls sometimes do when they look around to make sure you mean them. When she realised I did, she smiled and walked off the stage and sat by my side. She was a sweet thing and I enjoyed chatting and fooling around with her. She had a fun personality. Her name was Kristel and she was 23 years old from Pasay in Manila. She was a definite option for later.

There is a cluster of great bars on the stretch where Perimeter Road meets Fields Avenue. The time was 9. 25 pm when we walked in to BROWN SUGAR. It looked small from the outside but was big with a surprisingly large stage. 25 girls were dancing and the line-up was good. They were all young and fresh and there was lots of fun and laughter on stage. Plus I've never seen a bar with so many waitresses! There must have been 20 of them walking around in their short red skirts and white shirts. There were probably as many waitresses as customers.

Owen got chatting with a nice looking girl who seemed exactly his type. In fact if you handed me a sheet of paper and asked me to draw his ideal girl, I would probably draw her. She was a petite little thing with a big smile and a cheeky personality.

I realised that I hadn't eaten so went to Bunny Burger a few doors along. I asked for burger and chips but it was the slowest fast-food I've ever ordered. Eventually it arrived and I ate it as quickly as I could and paid. As I left I saw Owen and Macca on the pavement outside. "Where have you been?" they asked. Owen wasn't looking impressed and it turned out that he had tried to bar-fine the cute girl in Brown Sugar but she told him that she was on her men's. He wasn't having the best of luck.

Next we went to ANGELWITCH. 12 girls were dancing but there were about 30 mingling around the bar. The standard was excellent and I immediately spotted four or five strong bar-fine contenders. I saw a very cute girl walk past in a yellow bikini. She went in to the corner to talk to another girl and I told myself that I'd try to intercept her if she walked past again. I needn't have bothered. A minute later I was talking to Macca when someone grabbed me from behind and hugged me. I turned around and it was her. I offered her a lady-drink and immediately knew I'd found my girl. She was a little ray of sunshine, always smiling and was affectionate too, hugging up to my side and holding my hand. Her name was Marnie and she was 20. When her drink arrived we clinked bottles and said 'tagay'.

We chatted for 20 minutes before I paid her bar-fine and she went to go and get changed. Owen had also decided to bar-fine the girl that he was chatting to. She was a tall slim girl with glasses. He leaned across to me and explained that her name was Margorie and she was a real character and lots of fun. He had established very early in their conversation that a) she had ID, b) she wasn't on her period and c) she wanted to go with him. Her bar-fine was also 3000 pesos. Marnie reappeared looking very cute in tiny pair of denim shorts and a tight blue T-shirt.

It was only 10 pm so Owen, Macca and I, plus Marnie and Marjorie, decided to go to another bar. We chose CAMELOT next door to my hotel. 10 girls were dancing on stage and the music was fantastic. Marnie took my hands and we danced along to every song in our seat and it was nice to feel her body up close. At one point we stood up and were doing ballroom twirls in the middle of the bar. Owen seemed to be getting along brilliantly with his girl and Macca was having fun too, making jokes with the girls on stage and the waitresses too. 'This is what it's all about' I thought.

I decided that it was time to leave, so Marnie and I said goodbye to the others and walked back to my hotel. "My hotel very long distance " I said to her as we stepped out of Camelot hand-in-hand. We walked two steps to the right and entered the door of my hotel. She laughed.

Sometimes you get a great girl who is full of life but when she gets back to your room she goes all shy. Marnie definitely wasn't one of those. She dived on top of me and was an excellent kisser. She was almost eating my face at one point and biting my bottom lip. I offered her a back massage, a cunning ploy for her to take her top and bra off. She agreed, stripped off and lay face down on the bed and I straddled her and gently kneaded away at her beautiful smooth skin. It must have been good because after ten minutes I realised that she had fallen asleep! I had to laugh to myself. She was hyperactive in the bar and a pocket rocket when I got her in to my room but ten minutes under my magic fingers had sent her to sleep. She looked so peaceful I carefully climbed off her, lay down and fell asleep. I could always fuck her in the morning.

At 4 am I was woken by her stroking me. She kissed me softly on the lips and before long I was on top of her and she was trying to eat my face off again. We fucked frantically in mish, Marnie thrusting her hips at mine from below like a bucking bronco. I managed to stay on. I spooned her in front of the mirror from behind, then rolled her onto her stomach and continued to fuck her. Her legs were together so her pussy was tight and my hips slapped in to her arse-cheeks as I pounded her from behind. From this position we rolled over so I was on my back and she was on top of me, facing away. She placed her feet on the bed, I grabbed her hips and fucked up in to her tight pussy as quickly as I could. It's an energetic position but lots of fun and she groaned loudly. I fucked her doggy-style and then she rode me to a climax as I held her small tits.

In the bar she had been such a lively girl with a cheeky personality I knew she'd deliver in the bedroom and I was proven correct. We cuddled up to each other and fell asleep. It had been another great night.

Robbaf
04-11-15, 01:54
I was in Angeles the week before Easter and have a couple of female contacts there in different bars. I asked them that very question as I was tempted to stage my trip over Easter but decided to go cautious at the last minute.

The consensus I have is that very few girls go back to the provinces. Most bars make it difficult for girls to have any time off or holidays. There are also very few customers in the bars, particularly from Wednesday to Monday but the bars are still full of women.

One of the girls from a bar just outside of fields told me that on Wed and Thur, they had only 1 customer. Several girls swarmed him and he left relatively quickly.The bars make it difficult for the girls?? How about the girls blow their money as soon as it hits their hand and cannot afford to go home.

Switched
04-11-15, 03:48
The bars make it difficult for the girls?? How about the girls blow their money as soon as it hits their hand and cannot afford to go home.I have no doubt that this happens and cash is king. Many have large families / children / dependencies etc and money doesn't last long.

However, in the western world, most of us have labour laws that often have some level of protections. These simply don't exist here.

Most girls have the right for 1 day a week off, usually to do their shopping, get their health checks etc. Many bars put pressure on girls to work their days off. They offer bonuses etc for high attendances.

To take time off, one usually needs to see the owner or bar manager. It is common for the manager to search through a girls phone and look at pics / read messages / check email to ensure that they are not seeing anyone in their time off. If this is suspected, they girl is expected to pay 50% of the fine direct to the bar.

The girls are treated as the bars assets. I understand economics and I know that bars need to protect their revenue streams. They want to make sure that girls become reliant on the bars. They do this via income incentives and bonuses. This makes AC cheap and sustainable for customers.

I have no doubt that many girls would happily work the holidays and make money. My point is that for the ones who would like to leave, this is made difficult and the girls need a good and verifiable reason for leaving. If you make something difficult, people are less likely to pursue it.

To make a generic statement as you have done and assume it to be true for all girls is rather ingenuine.

Llantarnam
04-11-15, 19:17
Was in AC at the end of last month for the first time in a couple of years. Transport links don't appear to be what they were so had to get a flight into Manilla and then endure then taxi journey to AC.

A few things have changed since last time. The girls all appear to have put on a few pounds, the prices have gone up and the place doesn't appear to smell as bad as before. Overall I would upgrade my rating of AC from "complete shit hole" to "bit of a shit hole".

Stayed at Queens hotel which was a nice place and very conveniently located. Only draw back was the fridge.

I'm not a fan of the big clubs, but tried out several of the medium sized ones. Pony tails was a big disappointment, skimpiest bikinis but not a lot of talent on view. Night one I ended in Lollipop and hooked up with a 28 yo who said she had no children. 2500 peso got her back to the hotel where she was very enthusiastic. Nice body and no problems with BBBJ or CIM, Overall very good performance.

Started day 2 with breakfast at Phillies (how can you go wrong with 120 peso for bacon, eggs, toast and coffee). Spent the afternoon at the mall before going pussy hunting again in the evening. Overall the standard was a bit disappointing, but I did manage to find a looker in Anglewhich. Very well proportioned for a Pinhay and very pleasant company in bed. No problem with BBBJ, but would only let me come on her boobs.

Overall a nice trip with some GFE. Only draw back was having to push the taxi to get it started for the trip to clark.

Sir Lancelot
04-11-15, 21:29
Day 18, Angeles.

I'd arranged to meet Owen today for an afternoon bar-crawl along Perimeter Road. Macca had decided to give it a miss so he could top up his tan next to the swimming pool on the roof of his hotel.

I had arranged to meet Owen at 2 pm at his hotel, 950 Condotel. It took me a while to find as it's situated above a supermarket. A young security guard called the lift for me, which took me up a few floors and when the doors opened I walked in to a lobby where a female receptionists head was just about poking up over a tall reception desk. I told her I'd come to see Owen and she directed me to his room. Marjorie was still there, playing around on his tablet. It was a decent room (1535 pesos per night) but lacked a window which is something I always insist on. Owen said he liked it, especially the convenience of having a 24 hour supermarket below (that's what you call a convenience store). On the down-side he said it had a faint smell of cigarette smoke.

The two of us squeezed in to a trike outside which took us three minutes down Perimeter Road to Clarkton Hotel. The ride cost 100 pesos. Clarkton Hotel is next to a cluster of gogo bars and my plan was to start at MIRRORS based on good reports. However a sign outside said that it opened at 5 pm (the sign also said 'no flip flops') . I was surprised as my research revealed that bars open at lunch-time and the best time to catch the prettiest girls is early afternoon.

We went to Lost in Asia instead. It's a small bar and there were 12 girls dancing. The standard wasn't too inspiring but all were young and a few were cute in a girl-next-door kind of way. In other words, no stunners but a few girls that would provide a perfectly enjoyable couple of hours of bedroom gymnastics should I wish to pursue them. My favourite was a girl wearing the tiniest denim shorts I've ever seen. Owen told me that Marjorie, the girl he had taken from Angel Witch, had been a great choice and the sex had been fantastic.

The bar has a drinks promotion in which you get a free beer when you buy a lady-drink (150 pesos). Not only is that excellent value, it's a clever way to keep customers in their bar because it means they'll stay for at least two drinks. It also means that the girls are getting more drinks, so everyone's a winner. More bars should adopt the idea. I liked the laid-back feel to Lost in Asia, it had been a good way to start our afternoon.

There is a cluster of four or five small bars in a row and we noticed a pretty 'Hello girl' outside ROADIES. I did my usual daft joke of walking up to her and asking "excuse me, can you recommend a good bar around here?" She practically pushed me through the curtains. The venue was tiny, just a narrow room with a thin stage on which six girls were dancing in front of a mirror. As I walked in I noticed a Japanese looking girl with blond curly hair and when I sat down I spotted an absolute peach of a girl at the far right of the stage. She was very fresh-faced and looked like an Asian version of my friends out-of-bounds younger sister. She had a slim body with enticing curves but seemed shy and quickly looked away when our glances met. When she looked over again I called her down for a lady-drink.

Her name was Eileen and straight away I knew that I wanted to come on Eileen (sorry, bad joke). She was perfection up close, exactly the type of girl I like to go for. We chatted and after a couple of minutes her shyness had evaporated. She held my hand, tickled me and was a fun, giggly girl. She told me she was 20 years old from Subic Bay.

Macca and I were the only customers and since we were both pre-occupied with girls, the remaining dancers sat down. A buzzer went off and they quickly sprung to their feet and started dancing (the 'Hello girl' outside must ring the bell to warn girls whenever customers are walking in). A couple of young Korean men walked through the curtains, stood at the doorway for a few seconds, then turned around and walked out. The girls sat down again. A few minutes later the buzzer rang again and as well as the girls onstage Macca and I sprang to our feet and started dancing. Again the customers were Asian, maybe Japanese this time, and again they turned around and walked out. "Sorry, my fault" I said as everyone sat back down.

I would have happily bar-fined Eileen but I wanted to go to a few more bars with Owen first. "I'll see you again" I told her before leaving. The bar-fine here is 2000.

Our next bar was after SKOOL, a famous name in Bangkok (just like Angel Witch the night before). It was bigger than Lost in Asia and Roadies and there were 18 girls dancing. All were young and although most were fairly average, there were a couple of nice ones. They were wearing outfits that were meant to represent school uniforms but the headmistress of my old school would have a coronary if her girls wore skirts that short! Above the stage was a sign which said '2500 pesos girls take off uniform'. I never had that option at high-school.

Whenever we go in to a bar, Owen and I play a game in which we have to guess which of the girls we think the other would like most. I can be quite predictable but Owen's choices can often be surprising (I would never have predicted the girl he took last night with glasses from Angel Witch). However, I'm slowly getting better. Of the 18 girls on stage I narrowed it down to two, both cute playful types with curvy bodies. I was right, they were his favourites. He called the smiler of the two down for a lady-drink and it became apparent very quickly that he liked her.

We formulated a plan. Macca had invited us to have dinner at his posh hotel, so Owen would bar-fine his girl and I'd bar-fine Eileen from Roadies and we would take our girls to Macca's hotel and surprise him with a visit.

I returned to Roadies but immediately saw Eileen sat down next to a middle-aged Korean man with thick glasses. She was sat in silence, obediently holding his arm as he talked to his friend (who had bought a lady-drink for my second favourite girl, the one with blond hair). Eileen noticed me looking over and gave me an apologetic smile. She knew I had come back for her. I bought a drink in the hope that the men would leave but they didn't. They continued their loud conversation, only occasionally remembering they had lady company.

I noticed that the sexy 'Hello girl' from earlier was now onstage, dancing nearest the door. She was clearly the best dancer so she was obviously the bait to lure customers inside whenever they poked their head through the curtain. The problem was, there were very few customers. Apart from me and the two Korean men, who were both with girls, there were no other customers. As a result the girls weren't dancing. With my choice of girl busy and no girls dancing, there was no reason for me to stay. I quickly downed my drink and left. I could always return on another day for Eileen.

I needed to find a girl quickly if my double date with Owen at Macca's hotel was going to happen. Outside GIRLS GENERATION were a cluster of six girls, chatting noisily. One of them cheekily shouted "you look like my future husband". It made me laugh so I went inside. I figured that if a bar can have six girls outside, it must have dozens inside. I was wrong, there were just three sat on the edge of the large stage. When I sat down they stood up and started to dance. One of them had a slightly ethnic look with pointier features than usual, perhaps she had Vietnamese or Chinese blood. In the middle was an average looking girl but she was the best mover I've ever seen. She wiggled, gyrated and snaked her hips in perfect rhythm to the music and she had big tits too. I felt myself getting hard (that really is the sign of sexy dancer!). She'd be a good choice of girl I thought. She might not be the prettiest but any girl who can move like her would surely provide good sex.

However by this point I'd become infatuated with Eileen from Roadies. I decided to go back and see if she was freed from the evil clutches of the Korean man. As I left I told the sexy mover "you best dancer in Philippines" and asked for her name. It was Maya. I was impressed with Girls Generation. Although there were only three girls dancing, there were some nice girls, mainly stood outside. Perhaps it's a good option to visit early evening.

I went back to Roadies and asked the girl on the door whether Eileen was still with a customer. She poked her head through the curtains and said yes. Dammit! I went back to After Skool and saw Owen sat on his own. I told him that I'd missed out on Eileen and he told me that he had decided not to bar-fine the girl he bought a lady-drink for either. Our masterplan of gate-crashing Macca's hotel with girls had failed miserably.

We decided to take a trike to PONY TAILS. It was a squeeze getting the two of us in to the sidecar but it was fun as we zipped our way along the road, wind in our face. Ponytails justifies its reputation as the top-dog of Perimeter gogo bars. At 4.45 pm it was crowded inside with barely a spare seat and 30 girls crowded on the stage in the middle. Some were very pretty and there were lots of lithe young bodies on show. We were shown to the exact same seat where I met Yannie on my last trip, a beautiful 10/10 who was my 'girl of the trip'. That was three years ago and she would probably be back in her province now. Either that or married to a rich foreigner!

I surveyed the bar and talent levels were good. Those that weren't dancing mainly gathered to the right of the entrance and I saw some very pretty ones. Ponytails is one of the few bars that insists all girls wear name badges, which helps for identification purposes. Lyn and Ruby were both classic Philippine beauties with honey coloured skin and long silky hair and Ai had braces on her teeth and flashed me a smile whenever I looked over. A girl sat next to Owen and said "what your name?" . He wasn't interested so held my arm and said "we boyfriends, not interested in girl". I couldn't resist adding "but if you like us, we do threesome for free". She didn't take us up on my kind offer.

Although there was no shortage of pretty girls, Owen and I decided to abort mission of bar-fining one. Time had raced by and we didn't have long enough to cram in a short-time before meeting Owen at his hotel, then meeting on Fields Avenue later. We'd had an enjoyable afternoon though. We'd visited five Perimeter Road bars and I'd added two great girls to my short-list of bar-fine contenders.

We walked to Prime Asia hotel and Macca met us outside, glowing with colour after his afternoon sunbathing. He walked us in to the plush lobby and up to his room which was immaculate. A large glass window separated the bedroom and the bathroom and Owen said it was great if he wanted to watch a girl in the shower (amusingly he told us that Maike had flicked a switch that makes a blind come down!). Macca showed us to the rooftop swimming pool and we had a cool drink in the late afternoon sun.

Although 3000 pesos is more than I am willing to pay per night for a hotel, I could see the attraction of staying in a place like this. Not just for the quality of the room and the swimming pool, but when you get chatting to a gogo girl they always ask "where you stay?" . It's a question to weigh up the customer and they'd be impressed if you told them a swanky place like this. They'd see you as a lucrative bet (perhaps a bigger tipper?) so they would be more likely to go with you and be eager to please in the bedroom.

We ate the restaurant downstairs and the food was excellent. I ate a spicy tom yam soup and since I was hungry ordered yakatori chicken too. I had dessert as well and my bill which included a large bottle of San Miguel came to 910 pesos. Owen and I thought for a glorious moment that 'big spender' Macca would generously pay the bill but we were mistaken.

We made plans to meet on Fields Avenue later and went back to our respective hotels to shower and shave. One bar-crawl out of the way, another shortly to commence. The life of a monger in Angeles.

It was 8 pm when we met in TROPIX. Only five girls were dancing, looking a bit bored, but there were probably 20 girls elsewhere in bar. I saw a flat-chested young cutie walk past topless with just tape over her tits. There used to be body paint in Angeles but nowadays it seems to have been replaced with coloured tape. The girl who caught my attention was a 30-something on stage who had a sizeable pair of natural tits, that wobbled as she danced. After all of the sweet young things I'd bar-fined so far, I was in the mood for something different tonight and a big breasted girl would definitely suffice. Or one with crimson red hair, or perhaps tattoos. When you fuck the same kind of girl all the time, they blur in to one. Tropix girls can be bar-fined for 2000 or 3000 depending on the girl.

We stepped on to Fields Avenue and went to RED. We got stools right in front of the stage and ten girls were dancing. The talent was average, including one who looked like Ronaldinho, but even in bars where the talent is low it's always worth hanging around for the second dance shift. This was a prime example. When the new crop of girls stepped up on stage there were three lovely looking girls. Owen flirted shamelessly with a less attractive girl who had a massive rack. I wanted to show Owen and Macca some of the smaller bars on Fields Avenue tonight. They might have fewer girls but gems can be found.

We went to GECKO which was the smallest bar of the night so far. As a result the place had a bouncing atmosphere. It was 9 pm and there were 8 girls on stage, smiling and flirting with customers. I called down a pretty girl from the stage, who sat on my lap and danced suggestively to the music. She had a pretty face and a cheeky personality and acted surprised when she discovered that she had made me hard with all that bouncing up and down on my lap. I fell for her tactics and asked if she would like to go back to my hotel with me. It was only early but sometimes you can't resist a cutie with a banging body grinding on your lap! But she told me "cannot, just lady-drink". Surely that's not right? But then she suggested swapping numbers and meeting during the afternoon so perhaps she was just a canny operator.

Owen bought a drink for a half Indian girl whose name was Ghandi. You couldn't make it up.

We went to LOLLIPOP next, which has a small square stage in the middle with seats surrounding it. There were 12 girls dancing, of which I'd say two were pretty. They were the type of girls if I saw them on a night out in Manchester I wouldn't be able to take my eyes off them, but here in Angeles, where there are pretty girls wherever you look, it's easy to become blase. My favourite was a geeky looking girl wearing thick glasses. She was short and well stacked with nice natural breasts struggling to fight their way out of the tight bikini top she was wearing. I think glasses are my new fetish. Some time on this holiday I will bar-fine a girl in glasses.

Next door is LA BAMBA, another small bar with a cosy layout. Ten girls were dancing but it was the weakest lineup I'd seen in Angeles so far. Yet it was proof that all bars are worth visiting because there was one standout girl. She was tall, had a models face with delicate features and a perfect toned body. I bought her a drink and she told me that her name was Ivy. We chatted and I liked her. Jokingly I said to her "ever since I first laid eyes on you I've been wanting to say something to you". I took hold of her hands and said with a serious look on my face "Mahal gita" (I love you). She burst out laughing and said "bola bola!" I liked this bar. There was a really lively atmosphere and the waitresses were fun.

Macca and Owen told me that they really enjoyed the smaller bars and suggested we could try those near Angel Witch, just off Fields Avenue. They were starting to get a feel for the place and their favourite bars.

The time was 10.25 when we entered ROADHOUSE. Before I even sat down I spotted a girl on stage who I wanted to spend the night with. She was a stunner in my books and as an added bonus had large breasts. She saw me looking and smiled down radiantly. Wow. I waved her down to join me for a drink. I don't think I've ever acted so quickly in a gogo bar in my life! She was sat next to me within 30 seconds of me entering the bar.

She was even prettier up close. Her name was Melanie and she was 21 years old. She was lots of fun too and wasn't afraid to act silly which is a quality I like in a girl. Although the time was only 11 pm, I decided to bar-fine her. The cost was 3000 pesos which was higher than I expected for this bar but this girl was exceptional. She went to get changed I returned my attention to the girls on stage. There were five girls dancing and 15 sat on stools in front of the stage, a few of whom were very pretty. The place had a good atmosphere.

Melanie returned ten minutes later looking elegant in a long flowing dress and I said goodnight to Owen and Macca. They were surprised I'd acted so quickly but sometimes you've got to otherwise girls can slip through your fingers. Earlier in the day I'd missed out on Eileen and I didn't want it to happen again.

I like it when you take a girl back to your room and there is no rush to get down to business. We showed each other photos on our phones and she put a scary movie on TV. It wasn't very good so we switched it off and she played music on her phone. She loved to sing and horrifyingly insisted I did so too. I have the worst singing voice in the world but I tried my best and we dueted to a Tagalog song (fortunately the lyrics were on screen). It was surprisingly good fun. We sung another song, then another and before I knew it we'd been singing for an hour. She planted a big kiss on my lips before saying "I go shower".

After I showered we lay on the bed together. She was wrapped in a damp towel and I was naked except for my boxer shorts. She played music on her phone and I waited for the right song to kiss her again. She had without doubt the softest lips I have ever kissed and best of all, she knew how to use them. She was an amazing kisser. Our hands stroked each other and I took her towel off and threw it off the bed. She had a lovely body with perfect natural tits that were so firm and perfectly formed, they could be a Michaelangelo sculpture. Ten minutes later we were kissing passionately as I lay on top of her. She grinded her hips up in to mine and fixed me with a sexy stare that was telling me to fuck her.

The momentum was halted as I unwrapped a condom, held it to the light to work out which way it was round, then rolled it on my dick. I feel envious of guys from yesteryear who could skip this step and just slide right in!

I started on top in mish, slowly sliding in and out. Some girls just lie back and spread their legs while others are more carnal and thrust their hips at you, dig their fingernails in and kiss passionately. Melanie fell in to the latter category. The harder I fucked her, the louder she groaned. Some girls groan in a fake way, presumably to encourage the customer to finish earlier, but she was really getting in to it and playing with herself. We fucked like this for ages. Fast and then slow, fast and then slow, lots of eye contact and kissing. When you get a really special girl, you want to stretch it out as long as possible.

I spooned her from behind in front of the mirror as I held her big tits and then rolled her on to her front and fucked her from behind. I prefer this position to doggy as the pussy is tighter and you can really slap in to her arse-cheeks. She groaned so loudly I thought the neighbours might complain. Every position we did she turned towards me and kissed me. I rolled off and lay on my back and she sat astride me and rode me, rocking her hips back and forth slowly, tightly gripping my dick with her pussy. She played with herself and fixed me with the sexiest of stares. I wish I could have photographed her there and then. A 21 year old stunner, silky hair down to her waist, erect nipples, riding me and loving it.

We must have fucked for about an hour in position after position, practically throwing each other around the bed. She rode me to a shuddering climax and collapsed on top of me, glistening with sweat as we struggled to get our breaths back. I hugged her tightly and we stayed like that for ten minutes, me still inside her.

It was the best sex I've ever had.

Robbaf
04-12-15, 02:09
I have no doubt that this happens and cash is king. Many have large families / children / dependencies etc and money doesn't last long.

However, in the western world, most of us have labour laws that often have some level of protections. These simply don't exist here.

Most girls have the right for 1 day a week off, usually to do their shopping, get their health checks etc. Many bars put pressure on girls to work their days off. They offer bonuses etc for high attendances.

To take time off, one usually needs to see the owner or bar manager. It is common for the manager to search through a girls phone and look at pics / read messages / check email to ensure that they are not seeing anyone in their time off. If this is suspected, they girl is expected to pay 50% of the fine direct to the bar.

The girls are treated as the bars assets. I understand economics and I know that bars need to protect their revenue streams. They want to make sure that girls become reliant on the bars. They do this via income incentives and bonuses. This makes AC cheap and sustainable for customers.

I have no doubt that many girls would happily work the holidays and make money. My point is that for the ones who would like to leave, this is made difficult and the girls need a good and verifiable reason for leaving. If you make something difficult, people are less likely to pursue it.

To make a generic statement as you have done and assume it to be true for all girls is rather ingenuine.Wow! Today is the 12th of April, not the first. I have lived in the Philippines for five years and if you believe the bar managers do not give the girls a day off and search their cell phones, I have a bridge for sale.

Maybe your girl is different.

Robb.

FreebieFan
04-12-15, 03:25
Her name was Eileen and straight away I knew that I wanted to come on Eileen (sorry, bad joke).
.For the unsure, was a Dexys Midnight Runners song.

RumBuddy
04-12-15, 12:49
I know Angeles I famous for the Bars and girls. But I'm curious, how many of you who plan your vistit AC actually use the Bars Exclusviley. I have been setting up thru Cupid. I have so many girls lined up. That seem to be ready for all I want to do, because we talk about it. I figure, I'm cutting out the middle man and getting everyday girls who are not professionals. Maybe their skills aren't as good, but out of 6 girls last, I only got 1 with very good sill and GFE and one with good GFE, just ok skills, the others, just ok. These I will have time to work on them and mold them to little hot machines. We'll see. If a girl doesn't work out, I can always send her packing... and go to the bars for relief.

Sir Lancelot
04-12-15, 16:56
Day 19, Angeles.

It's a wonderful thing, waking up in Asia and having that brief 'where am I?' moment before you see the gorgeous girl in your arms and it all comes flooding back to you.

We had sex again in the morning. She wasn't just a pretty girl with the body of a porn star, she was a tactile, playful, inquisitive girl who delivered spectacularly in the bedroom. She was perhaps the top girl I have ever fucked in Asia (and I've gone with about 200 so that's high praise!) . She showered and got changed and I took some photos of her. She was incredibly photogenic and smiled radiantly for every one. She gave me her phone number and suggested that we could meet again, perhaps before she started work.

It was midday when she left so I grabbed some snacks from a nearby shop and spent an hour catching up on the outside world at the internet cafe in the lobby of Hotel Natalia.

The plan for the afternoon was to go on another bar-crawl along Perimeter Road. This time Macca would be joining Owen and I. The three of us met outside Owen's hotel and we took two trikes halfway up Perimeter Road to CANDY. The fare came to 100 pesos for each trike, the same as we paid yesterday when we went twice the distance to Clarkton Hotel. Sometimes things defy logic in Asia! Candy is a small bar and there were 7 girls dancing to country and western music. The prettiest was a small girl in a purple bra with short denim shorts who was making a real effort with her dancing. Good dancers often make good performers in the bedroom. There were only a few other customers.

I love the banter you have when you're in a group. Macca and I teased Owen about the fact he bought a lady-drink for a girl called Ghandi last night and Owen and I found it funny when a waitress walked past and asked Macca "what wrong with your face?" (he fell asleep sunbathing yesterday and his face was very red today). I wasn't spared either. The night before I drank several bottles of water on our bar crawl, which didn't sit easily with the guys. "Watch that water" they said, "it's strong stuff".

They told me that after I bar-fined Melanie last night they went to Angel Witch and Marnie asked after me. Macca also told me that he had managed to arrange the threesome with Maike from Dollshouse and her best friend Bella for tomorrow afternoon. Both were stunning girls. If he could pull that one off he would achieve legendary status.

We went to DET5 next door based on a few glowing reports I read online. It was a narrow bar with just one row of seats facing a stage on which just three girls were dancing. The place felt sleepy and there were slim pickings. One of the girls had nice curves but an average face. We drank our drinks quickly and moved on.

A couple of doors along on the same block is XXX. This is more like it I thought as I walked in. It was a narrow bar with a lively atmosphere. Along one wall was a stage on which 10 attractive girls were dancing and facing the stage was a single row of seats. I like these intimate layouts because you're so close to the girls it's very easy to build rapport. The girls smiled and flirted in our direction and Owen and Macca didn't waste any time offering a girl a lady-drink each. Macca's was young and cute and Owen's had a 'sexy geek' look and was wearing a silver dress.

Sat next to me was an American ex-pat called Brett. He was with his Filipino wife who he told me he met working in one of these bars many years ago. She was probably about 40 but one of those women you can tell used to be a stunner in her day. Brett recommended a bar nearby called Night Moves and taught me a useful phrase to use if ever a girl asks for a lady-drink, "meron regla ako" (I'm on my period)!

On Brett's recommendation we went to NIGHT MOVES next. It was a bigger bar and crowded with ex-pats, always a sign of good value. There were 10 girls dancing in tiny red shorts, mostly older, in their thirties I'd guess. A few minutes later all of the girls left the stage and 10 different girls got up to dance, including several younger, prettier ones. The nicest was a tiny little thing with her hair tied up. The prettiest girl in the bar though was a bubbly waitress who amusingly asked Macca "what's wrong with your face?" . She was the second girl to ask him that this afternoon! He wrongly assumed that Owen and I had put her up to it.

There are lots of small gogo bars on this stretch of Perimeter road and we chose to go to ICE BAR next, a couple of blocks along. It was packed with customers. 10 girls were dancing and the standard was good, perhaps the best of the afternoon so far. One girl caught my eye. She was a tall girl wearing a red bra and panties that showed off her perfect body. She had a lovely face and long curly hair but she acted cool whenever she saw me looking over. If girls are interested they meet your gaze and try to reel you in with a smile but she looked away and was in a world of her own. Perhaps she was tired and it was too early for a customer.

I asked a bubbly young waitress to ask Macca "what's wrong with your face?" Mr Tomato Head wasn't impressed.

Suddenly I felt a sharp stabbing pain in my eye. I rushed to the toilet and took out my contact lens and it had a tear in it. I threw it in the bin. Philippines isn't a great place for contact lens wearers. The streets are dusty, there are lots of exhaust fumes from trikes and there is lots of cigarette smoke inside the bars. I go through contact lenses much quicker in Philippines.

At 4. 45 pm we walked in to FIRE PIT. 8 girls were dancing on an octagonal stage in the middle and we were shown to stools close enough to reach out and touch them. There was a bell on our table and we enjoyed ringing it to summon the waitress for drinks. She laughed whenever we rang it but soon confiscated it from us. Owen called down a peach of a girl called Melba and Macca bought a lady-drink for a girl called Merlin. Would she be a magician in the bedroom? I considered buying a drink for a tiny girl with a lovely face but she looked painfully shy. Perhaps she was new to the bar? I decided to get some food instead and left the guys chatting with their girls. I found a small cafe nearby called Edelweiss and bought a ham and cheese sandwich and soft drink for 225 pesos.

Owen asked if we could go to AFTER SKOOL next, as if had impressed him yesterday. We jumped in to two trikes and made our way to the top end of Perimeter Road. The fare was 100 pesos once again. 14 girls were dancing in matching plaid mini-skirts and Owen and I played our usual game of guessing which girl the other likes most. I correctly guessed he'd go for a petite dark-skinned girl with a cheeky smile and he correctly guessed that my favourite would be the tallest girl with pale skin and pointier features that suggested Chinese blood. We were sat too far away from the stage to form any kind of rapport with the girls but watched with amusement as the girls screamed loudly and scrambled around for ping pong balls that a Korean man had thrown. A waitress nearby grabbed three of them and stuffed them down her shirt.

I asked if we could go to ROADIES next to see if Eileen was free. She wasn't there. There were only four girls dancing and two others sat with customers. It was 6. 25 pm and a quality girl like Eileen had surely already been bar-fined. Despite the lack of girls, a few were cute. Owen bought a lady-drink for a sweet young thing with chipmunk cheeks and generously sized boobs while Macca called down a shy type with dark skin. She told him that "a lot of girls already bar-fined" and I pictured lovely Eileen being nailed by an elderly Korean. You need to act quickly on Perimeter Road to get the best girls.

While Owen and Macca were chatting with their girls, I decided to go to MIRRORS next door. It was very impressive inside with lots of red velvet furnishings and mirrors reflecting the bright lights. A lot of money has clearly been spent on the place but a gogo bar is only as good as the girls inside. There were only five and none of them were dancing, they were just stood around talking. A few were young and pretty and one of them was wearing a stripy mini-skirt and had the best legs of the trip so far.

I waited for five minutes but the girls paid me no attention so I drank up and left. Outside I saw Macca and an unimpressed looking Owen. He told me that he had bought his girl a lady-drink for 300 pesos but when he asked her about the bar-fine she told him that she was on her period.

We decided to go to PONY TAILS, the top-dog of bars on Perimeter Road. We jumped in to trikes and stepped inside the bar at 6. 50 pm. There were 7 nice girls dancing on stage, including a slightly older looking one with huge natural breasts. There were about 40 other girls dotted around the bar. I went to the toilet and spotted a stunner sat near the end of the stage. Her name was Lim and she had a 10/10 face. But she was wearing a dress that was almost as red as Macca's face. Why was she dressed differently from the rest of the girls I wondered. Perhaps she wasn't available for take-out. I returned to my seat and 30 girls were crowded on to the stage and once again I was hugely impressed by the talent. A girl called Tera was very cute and kept smiling down to me and Teal was another fresh-faced hottie. Nearby I spotted a girl called Alyn chatting with an elderly customer. She had that winning combination of pretty looks and big pouty lips that were ideal for blowjobs. Ponytails has some fabulous girls.

Once again we'd had so much fun on our bar-crawl, we'd forgotten to take a girl!

The time was 7. 20 pm and it was too late to take a girl for short-time before meeting on Fields Avenue later. We arranged to meet at 9 pm on Fields Avenue and returned to our respective hotels. All of these bar crawls were catching up on me. I felt like I could go to sleep but I needed to rouse myself for another big night out later. I bought an energy drink from the nearby 7 Eleven and splashed cold water over my face back in my room.

I also remembered that I'd forgotten to text Melanie, the girl I fucked last night. She suggested this morning that we could meet up before she started work but now it was too late. I sent her a text and suggested that we could meet later in the week. I had mixed feelings about it. She was a fabulous girl and I loved spending time with her but she was the type of girl I could easily see myself getting too attached to. I've made that mistake in the past.

Owen met me at my hotel an hour later. He was keen to see my room, a clear sign he likes Angeles sufficiently to want to come again. He walked around it like an estate agent, nodding and stroking his chin, and decided he was impressed. He particularly liked the mirror next to the bed, the dirty dog.

It was 9 pm when we walked under the Walking Street sign and entered Fields Avenue. There were two pretty young 'Hello girls' outside MUSE so we entered. 25 girls were shuffling on the stage in the middle but none were as pretty as the 'Hello girls' outside. It's often the way. But although there weren't many stunners, they were all young and many were cute. My favourite was like a little doll with a side ponytail. A waitress parked herself right in front of me, obstructing my view of the girls on stage, and asked me where I was from. Owen was also chatting with a waitress. The music was loud so I couldn't hear what he was saying but she was laughing at his cheesy lines. He's definitely got a waitress fetish! If there was a bar full of waitresses and no gogo girls he'd be perfectly happy.

The three of us went to NEMESIS next, which used to be called Genesis. It's funny how a number of these bars have changed names but only by one or two letters. We sat down and ordered three San Miguels (on separate chits of course) and admired the talent on stage. There were only 12 girls dancing, but while the quantity was low, the quality was high. Four of them fell in to the category 'very pretty', including a girl with bright red hair who ticked my red hair fetish. Thinking about it, I've had a lot of fetishes on this holiday. Red hair, glasses, big tits, fishnets. Maybe my fetish is just sexy girls?

Owen and Macca grabbed a bite to eat and then we went to THE BUNKER (formerly Cambodia). There are many things to like about this bar. There is always a fantastic atmosphere and the girls cheer loudly whenever customers walk in. There were ten girls dancing and those that weren't on stage were sat on stools in front of the stage. It's a good layout to see the talent on offer. The girls were smiley girl-next-door types and I spotted one girl who was cuteness personified. She saw me looking and flashed me a big smile. Suddenly all of the girls screamed loudly. A middle-aged white man had bought them all tequilas. He then tipped a bucket of colourful balls over the stage and there was another deafening scream as the girls scrambled to pick them up. It was a fun spectacle. A waitress then appeared and placed three beers in front of us. We hadn't ordered them so we thought there had been a mistake but she nodded over towards the big spender and told us that they were bought by him. He looked over and we toasted him.

All became apparent a few minutes later when he came over and introduced himself as the manager. His name was Murray and he had a strong Australian accent. I loved his live-for-the-moment attitude. His motto was 'fuck it!' and I've known a manager look after his girls so much. They were laughing and cheering and the bar had a brilliant atmosphere. 'Sweet Caroline' started to play and every single person in the bar sang along. A must visit.

We moved on to MONSOON and got stools right next to the stage. 15 girls were crammed on to the narrow stage in the middle and before our drinks had even been served Owen was chatting with a pretty girl. I recognised her as one of the dancers from our last visit who had a cheeky personality. Macca also bought a drink for a waitress. He confessed to me that he did so because she looked like his favourite girl in Thailand, Tuktuk.

On stage I noticed three nice looking girls pointing at me and laughing. It made me feel self-conscious but I invited the prettiest down anyway for a lady-drink. Her name was Charlyn and she was 20 years old from the Visayas. She had a beautiful face, her hair was tied back and she had the most immaculate voice. She could have been reading out a telephone directory and it would still sound fantastic. I asked her why she and her friends had been laughing and she told me that her friend was making a joke that I'm her future husband.

Suddenly Owen stormed past, face like thunder, and said angrily "every girl is on their period!" before leaving. Macca came over and explained that the pretty girl Owen had bought a lady-drink for had told him that she was on her 'mens'. It was the second time today it had happened to Owen. It could have been true of course but it's also a way girls can avoid going with customers. It doesn't necessarily mean that they don't like the customer though, it could be that it's too early in the night and they want to make some money with lady-drinks first, or it could be that they've bar-fined every night this week and are too tired to go with a customer tonight. There are lots of reasons but sometimes it's hard not to take it personally. Owen was having a bad run of luck.

I agreed to meet Owen and Macca in Brown Sugar and turned my attention back to Charlyn. I really liked this girl. She was a joy to talk to and very bright, asking lots of questions about my life in England and my travels in Asia. She had a lovely slim body and was wearing a tiny bikini that was far too small. At one point one of her boobs popped out and she apologised before adjusting herself. If I was on my own I would have happily bar-fined her but I wanted to catch up with the guys. I told her it had been lovely to talk to her and I'd like to see her again. I taught her my trademark 'towel dance' and told her that when I come in again, I'll buy her a drink if I see her doing it on stage. She laughed and said okay.

There are some fabulous girls on Fields Avenue. I'd swapped smiles a few times with an absolute doll of a 'Hello girl' outside Centaurus with platinum blond hair. This time she intercepted me as I walked past. I told her "you my favourite girl in Philippines" (smooth!) and she gave me a kiss on the lips. I was surprised and flattered given the quality of the girl. I was tempted to offer her a lady-drink but wanted to talk to Owen.

I was pleased. In the space of half an hour I'd added two girls to my rapidly growing short-list of potential bar-fines. At what point does a short-list become a long-list?

It was after midnight and I found Owen and Macca in BROWN SUGAR. We chatted about what had just happened in Monsoon and he'd calmed down a bit. He's a great guy Owen and always makes the girls smile and feel very relaxed, but he told me that he suspected that his tattooed arms might put them off. He told me in Thailand tattoos have connotations with crime. I asked a girl sat next to me for her opinion and she came up with another theory. She told me that some girls don't like tattoos because they think the guy is 'wild'. When I asked what she meant, she said "they boom boom all night"!

Brown Sugar looks small from the outside but is deceptively big inside. There were 15 girls dancing and my favourite girl was a cute girl with a big smile, sat opposite. I told Macca "she's pretty" and he waved her over to sit with me. What a gent! I bought her a lady-drink (300 pesos) and she was a real cutie. She had an innocent faces but a sparkle in her eye that suggested she knew a trick or two. Her name was Rosalyn and she was 19 years old from Masbate. We chatted and she told me that she had six sisters and seven brothers. Familes are often huge in Philippines because the Catholic church here is in the dark ages with its views on contraception.

I really liked Rosalyn so decided to bar-fine her. But it was my turn to get rejected, she told me "I don't go hotel tonight" without offering any further explanation. In a strange way I was pleased as it proved to Owen that other people could get rejected too!

It was late and I needed to find a girl. I considered returning to Monsoon to bar-fine Charlyn or Centaurus to see the blond 'Hello girl' again but again I was enjoying spending time with the guys. We went to PONYTAILS next, which is usually a good bet but it was very quiet. There were only five girls on stage and not many on the sidelines. This is one of the best bars in Angeles but clearly is a place to visit earlier in the night. We quickly drank up and moved on.

In contrast INSOMNIA at 1. 30 am was packed. I suppose with a name like that it should be busy late in to the night. Most of the seats were taken by customers so we were shown to stools next to the stage which gave us a good close-up view of the girls. There were 20 dancing in matching outfits and my eyes were drawn to the tallest. She had big tits and bigger tats but sadly she looked bored and was leaning against one of the chrome poles. She was the only girl on stage not dancing.

I then noticed a familiar face looking over. It was Kristel, the quirky Japanese looking blond I bought a lady-drink for two days ago. I waved her over and offered her another drink. She seemed pleased to see me and I enjoyed chatting with her again. She saw me looking at the firemans pole that girls can slide down to enter the stage and asked if I'd like to have a go. Of course I would! She took me upstairs where there were rows of lockers and a few girls were sat around checking their phones and eating crisps. She led me to the top of the pole and I grabbed it, jumped on and slid down to the bottom with a squeak. I quickly jumped off the stage before a Korean could bar-fine me.

I liked Kristel so paid her bar-fine. It cost 3000 pesos. On my last trip that used to be the Fields Avenue top-end price but now it seems to be creeping up some of these bars on Perimeter Road too. Three years ago I bar-fined a big-boobed honey from here for just 1865 pesos.

She went to get changed and reappeared five minutes later wearing a cute blue denim outfit. We said goodbye to the guys and walked the short distance back to my hotel. Sometimes when you get a girl back to your room you want to get down to business as quickly as possible but we lay next to each other on the bed and chatted and showed each other photos on our phones. She talked about her job a lot. She told me that she is popular with Koreans but she doesn't like them (the exact word she used was 'arseholes' "Most girls have bad stories about Koreans" she told me. She told me that once she was bar-fined by a Korean early in the night who fucked her and when she got ready to leave at 5 am he got angry and marched her back to the bar and demanded a full refund. She'd spent eight hours with him and had sex and yet he wanted all of his money back! She told me that she said to the mamasan "if you give money back to him, I quit" and thankfully the mamasan told the man what to do with his ridiculous money-back request. Kristel also said that girls hate the way that Koreans never actually ask the girl if they'd like to stay the night, they just wave the mamasan over and pay. They treat girls like objects.

We showered and lay on the bed next to each other naked. You'd think that would be the cue for the fun and games to begin but she seemed shy and reluctant to make the first move. I never like to rush the girl in this scenario, so I massaged her feet, then her hands and then facing her I massaged her shoulders and back. We were very close to each other so I kissed her. She kissed with her mouth closed but didn't pull away, so I slowly stroked lower, caressing her small tits, then lower again and began rubbing her pussy. She reached down and start stroking my dick. In a strange way when you get these timid girls and things move slowly, it helps build anticipation. I was aching to get inside her.

After a while I spread her pussy lips and rubbed her clit. She softly groaned and then I inserted a finger. She had the wettest pussy I've ever experienced. I couldn't wait any longer. I put a condom on and she spread her legs and I slid in and fucked her as she played with herself. Her mouth was wide open, her eyes were rolled back and her nipples were hard. I fucked her in a variety of positions, fast one minute and slow the next, but when I asked her to go on top she said "cannot, too big" pointing to my dick. I think I'm pretty average in this respect so I interpreted that to mean that she hasn't been with many Westerners. By this point I was hot so I lay back and took my condom off and she finished me with a good handjob.

We showered again and cuddled up to each other on the bed. Within seconds she was asleep in my arms but it took me a little longer to drift off.

I reflected on my time in Angeles so far. Each trip to Asia I set myself a minimum target of 20 girls and I was in danger of falling short this year. Despite the fact I'd fucked a girl each night I had been in Angeles (Jehna, Marnie, Melanie and Kristel), I'd failed to take a single girl during the afternoon. I was concentrating too much on the bar-crawls and not enough on the girls! Add this to the fact that in Manila I slept with the same girl on both nights, it meant my tally was currently standing at just 11. With only five and a half days left of my trip, I had to step up my game.

Sir Lancelot
04-12-15, 21:20
Photos for day 19 of my diary.

Mbsl65
04-13-15, 01:07
I just came back from HKG after a 8 days trip. I followed your diary and almost did the same stuff except I met a OFW Pinay too. Also I have been some other places and I will post them as I will write some of my notes down. Thank you again for.

Your near perfect guide.

Dg8787
04-13-15, 02:29
The bars make it difficult for the girls?? How about the girls blow their money as soon as it hits their hand and cannot afford to go home.With all due respect, we may think the girls "blow" their money as soon as it hits their hands. But this money isn't really a heck of a lot. Even P20 k a month doesn't go very far. By the time most girls come to work here they or the family are pretty much broke and / or in heavy debt. When money hits their hands it is generally sent home or to pay for "credits" right away. Very few girls that "blow" their money in my experience sir.

Dg8787
04-13-15, 02:36
I know Angeles I famous for the Bars and girls. But I'm curious, how many of you who plan your vistit AC actually use the Bars Exclusviley. I have been setting up thru Cupid. I have so many girls lined up. That seem to be ready for all I want to do, because we talk about it. I figure, I'm cutting out the middle man and getting everyday girls who are not professionals. Maybe their skills aren't as good, but out of 6 girls last, I only got 1 with very good sill and GFE and one with good GFE, just ok skills, the others, just ok. These I will have time to work on them and mold them to little hot machines. We'll see. If a girl doesn't work out, I can always send her packing... and go to the bars for relief.For me there is already a proven pipeline of willing girls via the bars. The supply and delivery system works fine for me, just like a grocery store. I can get my shopping done in less than 30 minutes and consuming it in the next 15 minutes. All at a reasonable price.

Capt Munch
04-13-15, 03:10
With all due respect, we may think the girls "blow" their money as soon as it hits their hands. But this money isn't really a heck of a lot. Even P20 k a month doesn't go very far. With all due respect. . . . 20 K php is quite a bit.

If you think about how many Filipinos work at places like malls and shops around the country at "minimum wage" then do the math.

I believe the minimum wage varies somewhat around the country. I recall hearing that the minimum wage in Angeles was 360 php a day / That is approximately twice the average of the bar girls salaries at 180 php.

So. . . 360 php / day x 6 days a week = 2160 php per week.

And at 4. 25 weeks a month x 2160 php per week = 9180 php month.

SO. . . 20,000 php is approximately twice the minimum wage income that somehow supports so many average Filipinos.

Now at the Fields level salary. . . . 180 php / day x 6 days / week = 1080 php per week x 4. 25 weeks / month = 4590 php / month.

Add XX barfines a week and XX ladies drinks a week and XX tips. . . And maybe you might come up with 10 k to 15 k php per month.

I am sure that some of the productive girls are easily over 30 K / month but there are plenty at maybe 5 k php to offset those.

At 20 k+ php you are approaching some of the "premium" jobs like Call Centers and many other college level type jobs.

Of course there are quite a few Filipinos that exceed that level but these are NOT at average wages.

Munch.

Dg8787
04-13-15, 03:42
With all due respect. . . . 20 K php is quite a bit.

If you think about how many Filipinos work at places like malls and shops around the country at "minimum wage" then do the math.

I believe the minimum wage varies somewhat around the country. I recall hearing that the minimum wage in Angeles was 360 php a day / That is approximately twice the average of the bar girls salaries at 180 php.

So. . . 360 php / day x 6 days a week = 2160 php per week.

And at 4. 25 weeks a month x 2160 php per week = 9180 php month.

SO. . . 20,000 php is approximately twice the minimum wage income that somehow supports so many average Filipinos.

Now at the Fields level salary. . . . 180 php / day x 6 days / week = 1080 php per week x 4. 25 weeks / month = 4590 php / month.

Add XX barfines a week and XX ladies drinks a week and XX tips. . . And maybe you might come up with 10 k to 15 k php per month.

I am sure that some of the productive girls are easily over 30 K / month but there are plenty at maybe 5 k php to offset those.

At 20 k+ php you are approaching some of the "premium" jobs like Call Centers and many other college level type jobs.

Of course there are quite a few Filipinos that exceed that level but these are NOT at average wages.

Munch.I don't dispute your math at all. My point was P20 k does not go far. Minimum wages in USA App. $1500/ month or $18,000 a year and it doesn't go far. At double the minimum and it still doesn't go far.

Yes premium jobs are about P20 k ($453) a month, twice as better than minimum but still does not go far.

WestCoast1
04-13-15, 04:12
I don't dispute your math at all. My point was P20 k does not go far. Minimum wages in USA App. $1500/ month or $18,000 a year and it doesn't go far. At double the minimum and it still doesn't go far.

Yes premium jobs are about P20 k ($453) a month, twice as better than minimum but still does not go far.


With all due respect. . . . 20 K php is quite a bit.

SNIP

SO. . . 20,000 php is approximately twice the minimum wage income that somehow supports so many average Filipinos.

SNIP

At 20 k+ php you are approaching some of the "premium" jobs like Call Centers and many other college level type jobs.

Of course there are quite a few Filipinos that exceed that level but these are NOT at average wages.

Munch.I'm with Munch. Don't compare western values with their values. DG, what does "doesn't go far" mean? For many westerners, the absence of an automobile (s) in the family would mean underachievement or poverty. But for many pinay families, there are may be multiple streams of revenue, which add up to paying the rent, foods, and utility bills every month (a dream for many). A small family might be fine with p15-20 K / month in Manila, 10-15 K in Cebu / Davao, and much less on the smaller provinces. I will PM you.

Member #4566
04-13-15, 04:18
Fields Avenue, also known as the Walking Street, runs west away from MacArthur Avenue. For no apparent reason and, as a source of confusion to those who count on Mr. Google and his wonderful maps as a friend, it changes names several times. However at some point, as yet not agreed upon, it becomes commonly known as perimeter road despite otherwise contradicting official designations. The name, Perimeter Road, is no doubt attributable to the fact that it courses the fence which was the perimeter of Clark Field when the Americans had a base there. Perhaps the jeepney terminal just past and across from Margarita Station is about as good as any place to mark the beginning of Perimeter Road.

The Cameron Massage is located behind the Petron gas station which is about a mile or so out on Perimeter Road from the Jeepney Terminal. I will take a jeep from the terminal for 8 pesos to the Petron Station. Walk through the station to the next street and continue westerly for maybe 75 meters until you are almost back on Perimeter Road. A hotel on your left and looking up to the second floor and you will see a sign for Cameron Massage.

I have been frequenting these ladies for two years. When I first discovered the place, three sisters were working there. I had a vision that they would accompany me to a beachfront bungalow on the Zambales coast and we would setup a household and live together. They would take turns clipping my toenails as needed and making sure I was otherwise happy. Actually these kinds of arrangements are doable even for those with limited means. Alas, I get bored too quickly and other engagements tax my resources such that it would not work for me.

The girl shown here has a beautiful island girl face. I think she is maybe 20 or 21. She is warm, loving, and accommodating. She played my dick like it was a piccolo and she was a virtuoso. The massage is 300. I have taken her back to my hotel but that day she declined. The hotel in which the Cameron massage is located has a short time option for 200. Because I truly like her, I spoiled her with 1500 pesos so I put out a total of 2000. I have paid less. This was my third time with her and I rarely bonk anyone more than once.

Dg8787
04-13-15, 05:15
To all with respect to your opinions. My response was to the remark that the girls "blow" their money. I was not comparing US standards other than making a point that it is hard to survive on minimum wages. Period. Yes when family members are working and contribute to the household it adds up. I stand by my statement that P20,000 is not a lot of money and it does not go that far especially if they have some debt or medical bills to start with. It does not allow them to splurge or have a meaningful savings account for the rainy days. People die in this country for the lack of a few hundreds of dollars to pay for the Doctor, hospital or medication.

Switched
04-13-15, 10:01
Wow! Today is the 12th of April, not the first. I have lived in the Philippines for five years and if you believe the bar managers do not give the girls a day off and search their cell phones, I have a bridge for sale.

Maybe your girl is different.

Robb.I'm not just talking to one girl and you have manipulated my words. I in no way said that girls don't have days off. Some do. I did say that many bars put pressure on girls to work their days off and make it difficult for them to take leave.

Sir Lancelot
04-14-15, 00:33
Day 20, Angeles.

I woke up at 11 and watched Kristel sleeping for a while before she stirred. She was a shy girl so I wasn't surprised when she got up, went to the bathroom and then began to get changed. I waved her goodbye and went back to bed.

Today was Owen's last day before he fly to Thailand. Once again we had arranged a bar-crawl on Perimeter Road but this time we were both determined to take a girl. So far we'd visited lots of bars and met lots of girls, but we'd had so much fun we forgot to bar-fine any of them! Our task today was simple. Find a girl quickly, fuck her and do it all again on Fields Avenue later. Two girls in one day, without fail.

We started at Ponytails, a five minute walk from my hotel. I walked past Hotel Natalia, where I've stayed several times, a 7 Eleven which I often use to get the girls snacks after I bar-fine them and Margarita Station, a large indoor beer bar. A little further along is a large supermarket and above it is Owen's hotel, 950 Condotel. He was waiting for me outside and we walked the short distance to Ponytails together. It was another scorching hot afternoon.

It was Owen's last day in Philippines and he told me how much he had enjoyed it. He loved LA Cafe and Angeles had exceeded his expectations too. I was pleased to hear this because he'd had some bad luck in Angeles (ID cards, girls on their men's etc). Owen is a regular Thailand and all I hoped is that he's see Philippines as a viable alternative when he was planning future holidays. I think it's fair to say it was mission accomplished.

The time was 2. 15 pm and it was busy with customers. We got stools round the back of the stage near the pool tables and I admired the usual array of talent on stage. There were 15 nice girls including two cute ones in front of us who were both called Nica. One of them was blond and kept smiling down to me from the stage and her friend seemed the shyer of the two. There was a dance shift change and they walked over. The shy one wasn't as shy as I thought. She pointed at me and Owen and then her and Nica and said "party boom boom?" haha. It was a tempting proposition but as much as I like him, I'm not sure I could bring myself to see Owen naked! The blond girl was stroking my dick which normally I'm not a fan of in gogo bars, especially when I've got a mate with me, but for some reason I felt paralysed to stop her. She had glint in her eye and seemed the type to provide a wild time so I decided if I couldn't find a girl in one hour, I'd come back and bar-fine her. I slipped her a tip before I left.

The walk out was quite embarrassing. I was rock hard and had to adjust myself and I'm not sure I managed to do it without being noticed.

We walked further along Perimeter Road to Eruptions. It was just past 3 pm and although it was quite spacious inside, only six girls were dancing and there was only one other customer. The place felt sleepy. A few of the girls on stage were pretty and the waitress that showed us to our seats was a nice looking girl too. Owen spotted two girls on stage he liked. One was slightly prettier than the other in my opinion but he chose the other because she had a cheeky smile. I was tempted by a blond girl on stage but there was something really I really liked about the waitress. Maybe it was the smart uniform, or her lovely face, or maybe her shyness. Or perhaps Owen's waitress fetish was contagious?

I offered her a lady-drink and she seemed surprised. "Me?" she said, which seemed an unnecessary question since there wasn't another girl stood within 20 meters of her. Because she was the waitress she went to the bar, bought the drink back, sat down next to me and placed the 240 peso chit in to my cup. Her name was Delma and she was 23 years old from the beautiful island of Mindoro. She told me that she'd only been in the bar for eight days. She pointed at a girl on stage and said "she my friend, she told me how everything works". When I asked what her friends name was she thought for a moment, laughed and told me "I don't know".

At first she seemed shy and it was me asking all of the questions, but she warmed to me. She hugged up to me and told me "you smell nice". Sometimes when I go on bar-crawls I slap on a bit of aftershave but the nice smell she was alluding to was Lynx Excite! She told me that she was hungry and like a smooth operator I asked her "we go for Jollibee?" She nodded. She knew she nearly had me so she stroked my hair and said "you so handsome". Flattery gets you everywhere.

I had a choice to make. I really liked Delma but Nica from Ponytails was guaranteed wild sex. Shyness v wild sex. I decided to go with the shy girl. The bar-fine was 2000 pesos. Owen told me that he was also going to bar-fine his girl, whose name was Cherron.

Before the girls went to get changed I suggested the four of us could meet at Jollibee. Owen grumbled on the way that I was eating in to his valuable short-time. Haha. He had a point when he added that he might not want to fuck on a full stomach. I hadn't considered that. We got a table and ten minutes later the girls arrived wearing their casual clothes. We let them choose the food and they bought us back a feast, including some spicy chicken which I loved. Owen's dinner date Cherron seemed a bubbly girl and I knew he was in for a good time.

We finished our food and Owen and I went back to our respective hotels with our girls. Delma was small without her heels on. After we showered, she lay on the bed wrapped in a towel. She seemed shy again and I figured that she didn't have a lot of experience going with customers. Perhaps I was her first westerner? I leaned forward and kissed her on the lips. Seconds later her towel lay discarded on the bedroom floor. She had perky breasts with inverted nipples which I've never seen before. My right hand squeezed her breasts as we kissed and then I stroked her lower and lower and began to rub her pussy. I gently parted her pussy lips and began slowly fingering her juicy pussy. She softly gasped but soon was writhing and groaning loudly when I pushed my finger in as far as I could. Earlier she had kissed me in timid fashion with her mouth closed but now she was kissing passionately, trying to stick her tongue as far down my throat as she could.

I sat up, put a condom on and then turned around to see her lying on her back, legs spread invitingly. God I love Philippines. I got on top of her and tried to slide in but she had the tightest pussy I've experienced since an 18 year old in Jakarta who took three minutes to lower herself on. Despite the fact she was nicely juiced up, my dick was only going halfway in and she was whispering "shit shit shit". I stopped and asked if she was okay and she nodded. I pushed again and it didn't move. Then I pushed harder and suddenly it slid the rest of the way in and she screwed up her face. I was slow and gentle with her and she gradually got a feel for it, grinding her hips in to mine in rhythm. I slowly upped the pace and soon I was giving her a good pounding with her ankles on my shoulders.

She seemed inexperienced but was enjoying herself, kissing me at every opportunity and playing with her pussy. She loved looking at herself in the mirror as I fucked her from behind. I decided to be chivalrous and told her that she could choose any position and she told me to lie back and squatted over me and then lowered herself on in 'Asian cowgirl'. She rode me slowly at first but soon was riding me like a bucking bronco. *Yeeha! She had been shy at first but it ended up being really good sex.

We showered and she asked "okay to go now?" I gave her a decent tip and watched as she walked away down the corridor. What a lovely girl.

I killed a few hours on the internet then got ready for another night on Fields Avenue. I got changed in to my favourite shirt (my 'pulling shirt' back home) and stepped out in to the warm evening air. It was Owen's last night before he flew back to Thailand and I wanted it to be a good one.

I walked past 'Hello girls' at the bars near my hotel, who now recognised me as I walked past so often. I looked for Marnie when I walked past Angel Witch and Melanie when I walked past Roadhouse next door. Both were fantastic girls. I walked past Phillies 'sports, grill and bar' on the corner which as ever was packed with ex-pats. I walked past viagra sellers near the trikes and groups of cute young massage girls beneath the Walking Street sign. I walked past Atlantis on the right and then saw the pretty blond 'Hello girl' I like outside Centaurus, weaving her magic on a guy twice her size. She saw me and smiled.

At 8. 30 I walked in to Kokomoz, the perfect meeting point for a bar-crawl on Fields Avenue. It is bang in the middle of the action and the perfect vantage point to see people walking up and down the street.

Owen told me that he'd had a great afternoon with Cherron, who had turned out to be very horny indeed. Macca's afternoon had been less successful though. He was meant to have his eagerly awaited threesome with Maike from Dollshouse and her stunning best friend Bella but it never happened due to "Maike's inability to get out of bed"! Apparently she sleeps till it is time to get ready for work each night. He told us that he hoped to arrange the threesome for tomorrow instead.

We started our bar-crawl in SHIPWRECKED (formerly One Eyed Wench) based on a very cute 'Hello girl' stood outside with platinum blond hair. It's a long bar with a long stage so ideally you need to get a seat in the middle to be able to see all of the girls. 15 were dancing and the standard was high. Straight away I saw a few bar-fine contenders and Owen didn't waste any time buying a lady-drink for a sweet 19 year old. The pretty blond 'Hello girl' walked inside and waved to me, so I did the universal piece of sign language for "you like drink?" She walked over, hugged up to my side and a 300 peso chit for her drink went in to my cup.

She was a very cute girl and looked sexy in her red 'Hello girl' outfit. Her name was Rose, she was 22 and she had braces on her teeth. We held hands as we chatted. She might have looked cute and innocent but she whispered "I give good blowjob". Owen, Macca and I decided to leave but for the second time today I walked out of a bar with a very obvious stiffy. I told Rose "maybe I see you later". She was a strong option. The bar-fine here is 2200 pesos.

I was hugely offended to discover that Lancelot is now called KINGS LANDING. What was wrong with the old name! A dozen girls were dancing on the stage in the middle, including a few pretty ones. The thing I liked best about this place was there was a fun atmosphere and the girls were smiling and joking around on stage, trying to emulate a dance routine that was showing on a screen. Macca and I showed them how to do it. *We got the moves like Jagger! The bar-fine in Kings Landing is 2400.

Vendors often enter gogo bars, carrying trays of nuts or cuddly toys. They're not pushy, they just walk in front of you, linger, then move on to the next customer. An old man with missing teeth selling crisps stood in front of me. This was already the second time I'd seen him tonight and I must have seen him in three or four bars last night too.

Where next? VALHALLA, that's where. It's a small bar roughly halfway down Fields Avenue with a small T-shaped stage in the middle. 9 girls were dancing, two or three of whom were certainly worth of a lady-drink at least. A tall one with fantastic legs hugged her sexy friend. We noticed a laminated menu on our table and decided to order food. Ten minutes later a plate of spicy sisig was placed in front of me (195 pesos). It was absolutely delicious. It's quite a strange thing eating dinner while watching lots of half naked girls dancing. Like a lot of bars there was a pool table in the corner and I enjoyed watching a tiny girl with a nice figure stretching over the table to play her shots.

Although small, this bar is a hidden gem.

Speaking of hidden gems, we went to ANGEL WITCH next where I hoped to see Marnie. It was 11 pm and there were six rather average looking girls on stage. As always seems to be the case here though, the quality of girls working the room was high. I saw Marnie sitting on a table with four other young girls, all of whom had been bought a lady-drink by a man with white hair. She saw me and smiled. I love the atmosphere in this bar. There's lots of loud rock music and the girls seem to be having lots of fun.

Two young girls sat at our table and one of them told me "Marnie is with customer". It's amazing how observant these girls are. She must have remembered me bar-fining Marnie three nights earlier. *One of the girls left her lanyard on the table with her ID and I noticed the 'Rules for working in Angel Witch':

1. I don't have to do anything I don't want to do.

2. No bar-fine, EWR or paid leave with customer.

3. I will smile on stage and with customers.

4. I will pay attention to anyone who buys me a drink.

5. I will sit up ladylike when not dancing.

6. I may stop duty at any time. I understand I will lose all commission and wages for that day and bonuses.

It was quite interesting seeing some of these rules although I think a few of them can be taken with a pinch of salt. As I was reading a girl hugged up to me tightly. It was Marnie! She looked every bit as cute as I remembered. She had sneaked away from her customer to come over to say 'Hello, She was crouched down so the customer who had bought her a lady-drink couldn't see her and she rested her head on my lap and looked up with a smile on her face. She's the most playful girl I've ever met in Asia. Had she been available I would have bar-fined her but she had been bought a drink by another customer. She quickly remembered rule 4 and returned to his table.

At midnight we entered WHITE WAVE. The bar doesn't look that promising from the outside but clearly the owners have spent a fortune inside. It's all mirrors, chrome and white leather. All the decor is white, I needed a pair of sunglasses! Eight girls were dancing in their white bikinis and a few of them were easy on the eye. The prettiest was wearing black for some reason. *Maybe she was the black sheep of the family?

We were the only customers though. Surely if the owners spend so much on a bar they should prioritise making it look inviting from the outside too.

The three of us left and decided to check out PONY TAILS. In contrast to earlier the place was quiet with only a smattering of customers and 8 girls dancing on stage. As we were shown to our seats, one of them tapped me on the shoulder, leaned down, gave me a hug, then jumped in to my arms. I'm not quite sure why but the girls on stage found it funny. I lifted her back on to the stage and she gestured for me to get on stage too. "Me shy" I said as I sat down next to Owen and Macca!

I looked around the bar and didn't see any of the standout girls I had seen earlier in the day. A waitress sat behind us and suddenly there was a buzzing noise and she made Owen jump by placing a vibrator on his neck. Haha. Owen was chatting with a cheerful little cutie with a big smile. Her name was Lin and he very quickly established that she was available and bought her a lady-drink. He wore the smile of someone who knew he had found his girl for the night. His last girl in Philippines too (for this trip at least).

I went to the toilet at the exact moment a shift change occurred for the dancers on stage. 8 girls got off the stage as the same amount waited to go on and I was stuck in the middle of a swarm of half naked flesh, cute smiling girls and skimpy bikinis.

I got back to my seat and studied the new selection of girls. A few were nice but none pretty enough to set my pulse racing enough to pay their bar-fine. A girl sat on my lap and a waitress quickly asked if I'd like to buy her a drink. One thing I've been very surprised about in Angeles is the almost complete lack of pressure to buy lady-drinks. I don't mind it as a one-off but it gets annoying when it happens in every bar. People are obsessed about talking about the negatives of a place like Angeles but there are some noticeable improvements too.

Owen paid Lin's bar-fine and we said our emotional farewells outside his hotel. He would be flying to Thailand tomorrow and Lin seemed the perfect girl to end his time in Philippines. Although he'd had some ups and downs, I think he really enjoyed his first trip to Philippines. He's a Thai-lover without doubt (he can even speak the language) but all I wanted was for him to see Philippines as a viable alternative for future trips. I was pretty sure he'd be back.

It was 1 am and time for Macca and I to find our girl for the night. We decided to go ATLANTIS and formed the same pact we did on our first night, where we must bar-fine a girl.

There were 20 girls on stage and plenty more on the sidelines. If you can't find a girl in Atlantis who doesn't interest you, there's something wrong. My favourite was a hottie in a yellow top with perky tits. When I pointed her out to Macca he said "ladyboy". I studied her closer and although she had fake tits, she had a very feminine face. "If it's a ladyboy it's a bloody good one!" I said. Macca spotted a petite girl sat on a row of seats in front of us who had a Chinese look. He walked up to her and tried to start a conversation but she acted a bit cold so he gave up on her and returned to his seat.

An Indian man was holding court at the front of stage, slowly dishing out 20 peso notes one-by-one to any girl who would let him slide it in to her knickers. It was all rather tawdry and I respected those girls who refused to lower themselves to the demeaning spectacle (for just 20 pesos!

I turned around to say something to Macca and spotted a girl chatting to a waitress with the biggest pair of natural breasts I've seen in a gogo bar. They weren't just tits, they were titanics. My jaw nearly dropped to the floor. She saw me looking and smiled so I waved her over and offered her a lady-drink. Facially she wasn't my type and she was a little heavier around the hips than girls I usually go for, but I was completely and utterly hypnotised by her tits. Call me shallow. She was actually a nice girl too. Her name was Nicole, she was 24 and she had a wicked laugh. She seemed quite drunk so I suspected she had gulped down her fair share of lady-drinks tonight.

I couldn't resist bar-fining her. I've fucked a lot of sweet, pretty girls on this trip, especially in Angeles, and I wanted something from the other end of the spectrum. I paid 3000 for the bar-fine and she went to get changed.

I said goodnight to Macca, who was still eyeing up the girls on stage, and Nicole and I walked hand-in-hand back to my hotel. It's funny, I never normally get the 'walk of shame' feeling these days but on this occasion I did because everyone we walked past knew the reason (or two reasons) I had bar-fined this girl. I was pleased when I got her in to my room and closed the door behind me.

We showered and were soon kissing on the bed. I pulled her towel off and came face to face with her huge tits. I reckon they were natural double DS, or perhaps even E cup. She was a good kisser and I rubbed her pussy and began fingering her. "Why you not use your dick?" she said. I obliged. I put a condom on and fucked her hard in mish and it was a great sight leaning back and watching her big breasts wobbling like jellies. "Yeah fuck me!" she ordered as I pounded away as hard as I can. I spooned her in front of the mirror and held her big wobbly tits as I thrust in as deep as I could, then rolled her on to her stomach and slapped in to her from behind.

When she went on top I was in danger of getting a black eye from her big tits swinging in to my face. She leaned back and slowly grinded her hips in to mine, meeting my eyes with a sexy stare. I reached up and squeezed her prize assets and shot my load.

It was good sex and definitely one for my 'wank bank'. I switched the lights off and she hugged up to me. I got to sleep in super-quick time thanks to the extra two pillows.

D Cups
04-14-15, 02:06
Great writing and pics as usual, Sir L. Man, I sure hope Nicole is still in AC when I go there in October. YOWZA!


Day 20, Angeles.

. If you can't find a girl in Atlantis who doesn't interest you, there's something wrong. Nicole and I walked hand-in-hand back to my hotel. huge tits. I reckon they were natural double DS, or perhaps even E cup. She was a good kisser and I rubbed her pussy and began fingering her. "Why you not use your dick?" she said. I obliged. I put a condom on and fucked her hard in mish and it was a great sight leaning back and watching her big breasts wobbling like jellies. "Yeah fuck me!" she ordered as I pounded away as hard as I can. I spooned her in front of the mirror and held her big wobbly tits as I thrust in as deep as I could, then rolled her on to her stomach and slapped in to her from behind.

When she went on top I was in danger of getting a black eye from her big tits swinging in to my face. thanks to the extra two pillows..

Sir Lancelot
04-14-15, 21:49
Day 21, Angeles.

I woke to Nicole stroking my dick. I took my pants off and she leaned down and gave me a nice slurpy blowjob. I grabbed her right leg and lifted it over me, then pulled her pussy down on to my face. I buried my face in to her and stuck my tongue as far up her pussy as I could. I could feel her big breasts on my chest.

I wriggled from beneath her and rolled a condom on to my dick. It was from a new box of Durex condoms that I bought from England with me. Usually I use the red ones but the wrapper of this one was silver. It was far too tight and I found myself losing wood. This has happened a few times before to me in Asia but usually with Thai condoms which can be quite small. I took the condom off and she gave me a good hand-job, occasionally sucking me too. When she heard me coming she clutched my dick with both hands and wanked me furiously till I shot my load up my chest.

I watched as she stood up and walked to the bathroom for a shower. She might not have been the prettiest but it was a joy to see her naked and her massive boobs. In hindsight I regret I didn't ask her for a tit-wank as I've only had one before and it seemed a prime opportunity missed.

With Owen on his way to Thailand, I decided to give the Perimeter Road bars a miss this afternoon. Drinking all day and all night was catching up on me. I needed a rest.

I also had some chores to do, not least get a haircut. There is a beauty salon called Rosanna Bells on A. Santos Road, opposite Wild Orchid Hotel and next door to the infamous Black Pearl blowjob bar. It advertises 'gents cuts' in the window, so I walked in. Three women and a ladyboy were lounging around and seemed surprised to see me. I got the impression they didn't get many western customers. They seemed fascinated by me and bombarded me with questions. The owner, a glamorous older girl called Jovelyn showed me her collection of foreign banknotes and asked if I had any. I said I'd see if I could find some back in my hotel room for her. Finally I was shown to a chair in front of a mirror and a guy called Bernard put a towel over my shoulders, got the clippers out and gave me a decent haircut for just 100 pesos. I regretted I didn't ask him for a shave as that was something else I needed to do today.

As I was getting my hair cut, a vendor walked in. It was the old man with missing teeth selling crisps! He's definitely following me! Joking aside, you've got to admire how hard some of these people work. I bought a bag off him and he gave me a toothless smile.

I got some more money out from the ATM in the lobby of Wild Orchid Hotel and then went to an internet cafe and booked a room at City State Tower in Manila for the last night of my trip in three nights time. While I was online I also sent an email to Jonalyn, the girl I met in LA Cafe who I spent two nights with. I told her when I'd be back in Manila and asked if she'd like to meet up.

I also got a pen and paper out and tried to work out whether I could reach my target of 20 girls for the trip. It was touch and go. I'd fucked 13 girls so far, meaning I needed to go with 7 more. But I only had three nights left in Angeles and one in Manila (which I had just sacrificed to see Jovalyn again). I worked out that if I fucked a girl each day and each night it would take my tally tantalisingly to 19 girls. Either I needed to find a threesome from somewhere or rush to Hong Kong before my flight home for a quickie in a 141 apartment block. Sadly it meant a repeat fuck with Marnie from Angel Witch or Melanie from Roadhouse was out of the question if I wanted to reach my goal of 20 girls.

7 pm came around quickly. On to way to meet Macca at KOKOMOZ, I made a small diversion to the place I had my hair cut. I had found some Chinese yuan in my luggage for Jovelyn's collection of world currencies.

I got a seat at the front of Kokomoz and ordered a cool beer and some food. I got a burger with a delicious barbecue sauce made from Jack Daniels (295 pesos) and a huge chocolate cake for dessert. As I ate a little girl jumped up on to the railing in front of me, her head just about poking over the top and she held her tiny hand out hoping for a tip. I said "you like cake?" and she nodded eagerly. I cut a piece, handed it to her and she flashed me a big grin before running away to eat it. A minute later three little heads popped up over the railings, the little girl (whose mouth was ringed with chocolate) and her two friends. I gave them each a piece of cake and they ran away laughing.

Lots of pretty girls walked past and Macca told me that he thinks Philippines has more pretty girls than Thailand. He was falling for this fantastic place.

It was just me and Macca tonight and the plan was to go on a bar-crawl around Fields Avenue until Macca had to meet up with a cutie he'd met on DateInAsia. He told me that her sister was also coming along so it would be a double date! I'm not a fan of blind dates, especially in a place like Angeles where there are so many pretty girls everywhere you look, but it sounded something a bit different and I happily went along with Macca's plan. Of course there was a chance that my 'date' could be an ugly sister but at the very least we could have a few drinks and then I could make my excuses and leave.

We started our bar-crawl at STARDUST which was called Forbidden City on my last visit. The time was 8 pm when we pushed our way through the curtains and found ourselves in the middle of dozens of half naked girls sitting round, staring wide-eyed at us. There were some very pretty faces. No music was playing and for a moment I hesitated, thinking I'd accidentally walked in to somewhere I wasn't meant to be but then a mamasan waved for us to follow her and showed us to front-row seats in front of the large stage. Stardust is another of the big show-places, similar in layout to Atlantis with a round stage overlooked by tiers of seats.

Suddenly an old show-tune started playing and three girls started a sexy dance routine. It was excellent and one of the girls was very pretty. She was a great mover too and I entered a dreamworld imagining what I'd like to do to her flexible young body. After three songs the girls left the stage and Macca and I were the only customers who bothered clapping. 25 girls climbed on to the stage and the standard was excellent. I saw a lovely girl with lots of curly ringlets but the prettiest was right at the front in the middle, with a lovely face and big pouty lips. She noticed Macca and I staring at her and gave us a dazzling smile. Macca slipped her a 100 peso tip before we left, to sweeten her in case he chose to come back another time.

On previous visits I've rated this bar in terms of the quality of girls but the pressure for lady-drinks annoyed me. But tonight there was no lady-drink pressure at all and if anything the quality of girls has improved. A must-visit.

Near the MacArthur end of Fields Avenue there is a small cul-de-sac that has several bars. There is a Western themed one, one called Bar Nana and another one with Japanese writing above the door, but we chose NUMBER 7. There were 8 girls dancing on a stage that resembled a catwalk. The standard was average but we have a rule that if we enter a gogo bar, we always stay for a drink. It's a pet hate of mine when guys enter, look around and then walk out and I know for a fact that girls think it's rude too. We pulled up a stool and ordered a beer each. On closer inspection a few of the girls were quite nice, including a shy type in a tartan skirt and a porn wannabe with tattoos who was a sexy, suggestive mover. She'd be a wild one I thought.

Two waitresses were sat in front of us, Jacklyn and Bernadette. They were probably mid-30's and both had a fun sense of humour so Macca and I bought them a drink each before leaving.

Macca checked his phone. There was still no message from the DateinAsia girl, telling us when she and her sister would be out. It's one of the things that puts me off meeting DateinAsia chicks, how unreliable they can be.

We'd been avoiding DOLLSHOUSE on Owen's request (after the ID incident) but now it was just Macca and I we could go back. There were loads of girls and they were screaming loudly as a chubby Indian man with a moustache tossed lots of 20 peso notes on to the stage. The girls scrambled around and tucked their rewards in to their bras. Not to be outdone another Indian man did the same, tossing a wad of notes high in the air. Cue another ear-piercing scream as the girls tried to catch the notes that came fluttering down. A few of the girls didn't demean themselves, including the cute girl with chipmunk cheeks who assaulted me with a piece of tape earlier in the trip. She saw me looking and gave me a comedy fierce stare. I liked this girls humour.

I scanned around the bar and didn't see Jehna who I bar-fined from here on my first night in Angeles. Although she was a pretty girl I wasn't disappointed as I wouldn't have bar-fined her again. Macca couldn't see Maike either, the girl he was trying to organise a threesome with. I saw Riza though on stage, the girl who Owen bar-fined without ID. She saw me and smiled. There is some serious talent in this bar. Macca and I agreed it's the best bar in Angeles.

Macca went to get some food so I went in to MONSOON to see Charlyn. It was 10.20 and the place was unusually quiet. There were only a few customers and just 8 girls were dancing. The standard was surprisingly low too and Charlyn was nowhere to be seen. A waitress sat next to me who was very friendly and seemed to be lacking self-confidence so I offered her a lady-drink. Her face lit up. She hugged up to me and then prodded my stomach and said "you too skinny. I will cook for you". Haha.

The time was 10.30 and Macca and I went to CENTAURUS. I hoped to see the blond 'Hello girl' but she wasn't there. The standard inside was excellent though, definitely one of the best line-ups in Angeles. 20 girls stood on the revolving carousel and there were lots of cuties, including three spectacular girls who were dressed in casual clothes, presumably fresh from an earlier bar-fine. We got stage-side stools and enjoyed smiling at the girls as they slowly rotated past. One of them seemed very shy but I managed to get a cute smile from her each time she went past. Two cheeky girls were having fun with a middle-aged man sat next to the stage. He had gel on his hair and they pretended to jack off over his head. A familiar song started playing with the chorus 'she's a little bit dangerous'. It's been the soundtrack to the trip.

Macca checked his phone again. His DateInAsia girl still hadn't replied.

We decided to go to PHAROAH next as I'd been impressed by some of the girls on my first visit. We took the elevator up the 3rd floor and there were plenty of girls. 15 girls were dancing on the top level of the double-decker stage, 15 girls were dancing on the bottom level and another 15 were dancing in front of the stage. On the down-side, this seems to be one of the few bars on Fields Avenue where you get hassled for lady-drinks. Three pushy girls were in Macca's face asking for drinks and a waitress sat on a stool next to me and asked me "what your name?" A spectacularly pretty girl walked past with curly hair and I couldn't help following her with my eyes. "She married" the waitress said.

Just past midnight we entered EQUUS which used to be called Fantasy. I don't know why they changed their name and surely they could have come up with a better name than Equus! What does it mean? And how do you pronounce it? If it's "Excuse" perhaps this is the bar girls work at who are always on their period!

15 girls were on stage and the quality was excellent. I saw a girl with a fabulous face but when I pointed her out to Macca he said "she's carrying a bit of weight". I looked closer and he was right. Two girls walked on stage wearing see-through camisoles and one of them was extremely pretty. She looked half Indian and had a serene grace about her with long wavy light brown hair. I immediately became infatuated by her. A waitress was sat nearby so I asked her why the pretty girl on stage was dressed differently. She told me that the girl was a 'model', which naturally set a few alarm bells ringing. It sounded expensive. I couldn't resist buying her a drink though.

She walked over and looked prettier up close. I've got a thing for Indian girls (useless fact: India has had more Miss Worlds than any other nation). She sat between Macca and I and told me that her name was Ann and she was 25 from Manila. I bought her a lady-drink and at first her body language was cool, sitting with her legs crossed away from me but after a few minutes she was laughing and sharing stories and clinking her bottle of beer against mine. She told me that she had been at the bar for 2 months and previously worked at Phillies Sports bar near the end of Fields Avenue.

Macca leaned across and told me that his DateinAsia girl had finally got in touch suggesting that we meet in High Society. Typical! If she had texted any time in the previous four hours I would have happily gone along for a speculative double date with her sister but it was now after midnight and I wanted to bar-fine Ann. It all hinged on whether Ann wanted to go with me though and also what her bar-fine was. She was a 'model' after all, perhaps she'd be one of those 4000 peso girls I've read about? I needn't have worried. She was happy to go with me and her bar-fine was a frankly bargain 2500 pesos. She went to get changed and I felt bad telling Owen that I wouldn't be going with him on the double date with his DateinAsia girl and her sister. It felt like I was standing her up but they'd just left it too late to text Owen back. I couldn't wait all night. I also felt bad because it meant Owen was now condemned to an awkward three's-a-crowd situation! Thankfully Owen understood and wished me luck with my girl, then disappeared in to the night.

On the way back to my hotel Ann told me that she enjoys playing pool, so we went in to Crystal Palace for a game. Initially I thought I'd have to go easy on her and intentionally missed pots to make the first few frames closer but I regretted it when she turned up several gears, potted balls left, right and centre and beat me 5-3! A couple of sparsely dressed gogo girls were playing on the next pool table and I enjoyed watching them as they stretched across the table. I can remember playing against a hottie once and deliberately leaving her awkward pots for this very reason.

It was 3 am by the time we got back to my hotel. After we showered we lay on the bed. She had a petite frame with small but firm tits and nipples that begged to be sucked. I lay next to her and she intertwined her legs with mine and began stroking my dick. I kissed her but she kissed with her mouth closed. I got rock hard anyway.

On went the condom and in went my dick. I fucked her slowly and loved her sex face. Her mouth was open, her eyes were rolled back and she played with herself as she groaned softly. I fucked her from behind in front of the mirror and then she rode me energetically. It was quite a sight seeing a beautiful girl like Ann riding me but bizarrely I felt myself losing wood. Once again I had used one of the condoms with silver wrappers, which was so tight it had strangled the life out me. Maybe they were junior ones! She finished me with a nice hand-job.

Tomorrow I needed to fuck two girls. I decided I would try to bar-fine Eileen from Roadies during the afternoon and perhaps one of my favourites from Fields Avenue at night.

Member #4491
04-14-15, 23:47
I turned around to say something to Macca and spotted a girl chatting to a waitress with the biggest pair of natural breasts I've seen in a gogo bar.Humongous! I am in love with them. Have over 30 trips to Phil and never sat foot in Angeles, but your report has convinced me it is time to head north.

Thank you Sir L.

NOZ2215
04-15-15, 02:14
Day 21, Angeles.

She walked over and looked prettier up close. I've got a thing for Indian girls (useless fact: India has had more Miss Worlds than any other nation). She sat between Macca and I and told me that her name was Ann and she was 25 from Manila. I bought her a lady-drink and at first her body language was cool, sitting with her legs crossed away from me but after a few minutes she was laughing and sharing stories and clinking her bottle of beer against mine. She told me that she had been at the bar for 2 months and previously worked at Phillies Sports bar near the end of Fields Avenue.Firstly great stories, while I'm not playing around anymore, its great to read your travel log as it brings back great memories. However I'm going to make a very small correction to your writings, regarding Miss World I think you'll find Venezuela pips India for the number of winners, also in the great prize of Miss Universe, Venezuela is a clear winner 7 - 2, Just a bit of fun as I've never had a good experience with my travels through India (not a racist comment just the place doesn't suit me) on the other hand several Venezuelan girls I've hooked up with in Miami and Vegas have never failed to deliver in the looks department and in bed.

Anyway keep up the good work and continue to enjoy your travels.

Cheers

Dg8787
04-15-15, 04:10
I came out of my hotel and was waiting for the jeepney. Standing there was a 8. 5/10 girl waiting too. I asked her where she was going to and she said to the mall, which reminded me that I needed to go there too and buy some items. I told her that we could get a trike and I would pay for it, which she reluctantly accepted. When we got to the mall I asked her if she wanted to join me for lunch first and then afterwards we can go our separate ways for shopping. I assumed she worked in a bar and she confirmed that during lunch. BTW a very nice girl. We exchanged numbers after lunch and went our separate ways.

Later on we texted to see if we could to meet up at my hotel which was affirmative. Surprisingly I received a late text that she had a friend who had just started working with her and had not gone out yet and if she could come too. Yup, I replied quickly! The friend was not fat but "chubby". No 3 some but they took turns, Chubs was up first. Chubs was about 20 yo, no kids and inexperienced. Chubs got on top CG but just bouncing like she was on a trampoline, it was doing nothing for me so I rolled her over for mish. About 10 minutes in to it Chubs was coming alive and having an explosive "O" holding on to me with a death grip bear hug and a leg lock like if I was going to pull out and escape! I love it when they cum like that.

Later on I was doing the other girl while Chubs was hiding in the CR. This girl was good but she was no Chubs! After about 15 minutes I made the call for Chubs, kinda like calling in the bullpen for the closer! Man did Chubs come in with the death grip bear hug, leg lock close.

Went to sleep in bed between both of them. To be fair, a few hours later I rolled over on top of the first girl for a nice finish.

Life in AC is good.

AusMonger100
04-15-15, 23:30
Loved reading all of your reports, so detailed and helpful. You are my new hero (after Westie of course) Keep up the great work!

Pip Jaeger
04-16-15, 22:11
Loved reading all of your reports, so detailed and helpful. You are my new hero (after Westie of course) Keep up the great work!You must have doing a bit of RTFF as I haven't posted an FR in quite a while, but you're certainly welcome!

AusMonger100
04-16-15, 23:36
You must have doing a bit of RTFF as I haven't posted an FR in quite a while, but you're certainly welcome!So I forgot to put the acknowledgement in my post, sorry Sir Lancelot.

Sir Lancelot
04-17-15, 01:45
Day 22, Angeles.

I woke at 10.30 to see Ann walking out of the bathroom fully-dressed. "I have to go now, okay?" she asked me. Sometimes you get morning sex, sometimes you don't, I tend to just let it happen. I appreciated the fact she asked though, waved her goodbye and rolled back asleep.

I woke at midday, groggy on sleep. I felt better after a shower and better still after breakfast. Today I would be fucking two girls, starting with Eileen from Roadies.

At 2 pm I took a trike from outside my hotel up to ROADIES at the top end of Perimeter Road. 8 girls were dancing and hallelujah, there was Eileen on stage looking every bit as pretty as I remembered. I immediately called her down for a lady-drink which cost 300 pesos. She held my hand as we chatted which was a good sign, as this was the second time I'd come back to the bar so she knew I was interested. She was a bubbly, smiley girl but she casually dropped in that yesterday she had been off work because she was on her 'mens'. I inquired about her availability this afternoon and she told me that she was still on her period. "Tomorrow?" I asked and she said "period last three days, sorry". I think it was a genuine excuse though because she then squeezed my hand and added "Day after is okay". It proved she was willing to go with me but sadly I'd be back in Manila by then. I cursed to myself. Eileen was a 10/10 girl but she had slipped through my fingers. I should have bar-fined her when I had chance the first time I met her.

There was a line of three trikes parked on the opposite side of the street. Two men were stood chatting in the shade of a tree and another lay sprawled across the seat of his trike, sleeping. I walked over and the two men who were chatting sprang to life and waved down the street at another trike driver, who drove over. Perhaps they were too engrossed in conversation to want a customer!

At 3 pm I entered PONY TAILS and made a decision. I didn't want this afternoon to be a drawn-out affair, I wanted to pick a girl quickly, fuck her and give myself a few hours of rest before Fields Avenue tonight. So I told myself that whatever happened I had to bar-fine a girl from here. I quite enjoy this tactic as it gets my adrenaline pumping. Somewhere in this bar was a girl I'd be fucking in around about an hour. How often can you say that to yourself?

For talent, Pony Tails is one of my favourite bars in Angeles. 10 girls were dancing with easily double that on the sidelines and lots were pretty. Which would it be? I took my time sipping my San Miguel, watching the various dance shifts and drawing up a mental short-list of possibilities. As I did so, a middle-aged woman with 'Massage' written on her top started to give me a shoulder massage. It felt magical so I let her continue for ten minutes. I felt like a King, watching the pretty girls whilst having a massage (all that was missing were two naked girls either side, fanning me). I did get complimentary popcorn though. I gave the masseur tip after ten minutes and she left with a big smile.

Suddenly the DJ called "party time!" and all of the girls squeezed up on to the stage in the middle. There were probably 40 girls. Ai was one of those small, cute girls I tend to go for with braces on her teeth while Yammy was tall with dark brown skin and the kind of slim, toned figure that could sell swimsuits. Lyn was perhaps the most beautiful but was wearing a black dress which suggested that maybe she was unavailable. Then I remembered that the prettiest girl on my previous visit was also wearing a dress so perhaps it's just a way to differentiate the 'models', like Ann in Equus. I spotted Nica, the blond who gave me a stiffy on my last visit but she seemed pre-occupied flirting with another customer.

A pretty girl walked over with braided hair and sat next to me. She told me that she recognised me and introduced herself as Kylie*. She was 19 and I enjoyed chatting so offered her a lady-drink. A girl called Trixie was dancing with great energy in front of us so I asked Kylie "who is best dancer here?" She said "I am". I thought maybe she was just joking but she told me that she used to work as a dancer on a Filipino TV show and even gave me the name of the show and told me to Google it. Good dancers always provide great sex so I paid her bar-fine (2000 pesos) and we walked the short distance back to my hotel.

I like the fact that girls you take from Perimeter Road during the afternoon are keen to get down to business straight away. She pounced on me on the bed and was a great kisser, using her tongue. I knew I was in for a good session but I had no idea just how good.

She assertively told me "take off" and I removed my pants and she proceeded to give me an excellent blowjob. She got me rock hard and much to my surprise and delight, gave me deep-throat. I've never had a girl give me deep-throat all the way until now. She held it for ten seconds before surfacing for air. She spat on my dick, took a deep breath and then deep-throat me again, all the way down so my dick was in the back of her throat. She held it for ten seconds again and I felt her tongue licking the bottom of my shaft. She repeated the process over and over, spitting and then deep-throat and holding it as long as possible. I loved it. It was like watching a porn film.

I leaned over and picked up a condom but she said "not like condom". I had a dilemma. I've never bare-backed an Asian hooker before but girls from Angeles have health-checks every week and can't work in the bar if they have a problem. I slid my dick in to her before I had chance to change my mind.

Her pussy felt that little bit warmer and a lot more lubricated than I was used to. I slid in and out, slow and deep and it felt silky smooth. It felt amazing in fact. She kissed me passionately on the lips and ordered "fuck me hard". I followed her orders, slapping in to her as hard and fast as I could. She groaned and bit her bottom lip. I flipped one of her legs over, so she was still on her back but I was entering her pussy sideways and pounded away as her pert tits did their best to wobble. I lay behind her and spooned her in front of the mirror, drilling her as quickly as I could and then rolled on to my back with her on top and fucked up hard in to her tight pussy. I held her tits tightly and could feel her bullet nipples in my palms. She rode me to a shuddering climax. My body writhed for a few seconds, I let out a few loud groans and then shot my spunk in to her pussy. I collapsed back on the bed and tried to get my breath back.

But she kept fucking me. At first I thought she just wanted to squeeze every last drop out but I was wrong. She rode me hard again, thrusting her hips at mine frantically and breathlessly said "come, come". I wasn't sure whether it was a statement or an order. I rolled her on to her back and fucked her in mish again, as quickly as I could and between "oh yeahs" she asked me "you come yet?" I told her I came five minutes ago. How did she not realise?

She finished me for the second time with a hand-job. As she admired the line of spunk up my chest she said "you sex good". I told her "you sex better". It was great sex, some of the best I've ever had. I also got a proper deep throat thrown in for good measure. Filipino girls leave all others in the shade when it comes to performance.

We showered and got changed. She told me that she was going to the hair salon later and wanted to dye her hair and asked me which colour I'd like. I said pink. She also suggested that we could meet up later, after she finished work. I was faced with a dilemma. She provided 10/10 sex and the prospect of fucking her bareback again, perhaps even trying anal, was hard to resist. But on the other hand I desperately wanted to reach 20 girls for the trip.

(* although I usually use real names in my diary, I have decided to use an alias for this particular girl. Although I respect the large majority of people who use this forum, occasionally I read about someone who boasts about how they sleep bareback with as many girls as possible which I don't agree with).

Because I managed to bar-fine relatively quickly during the afternoon, it meant I had a couple of hours to relax in my room. I read my book, had a cup of coffee, read my book some more, showered, shaved and then got a text from Macca saying he was running an hour late. I read my book some more, had another coffee and got ready for another night on Fields Avenue. Smart shoes, smart jeans, long-sleeved shirt, a splash of aftershave, looking good.

We met at 8 pm at Kokomoz and I ate chicken and cashew nuts as Macca told me about last night. His DateInAsia girl was pretty but her sister didn't inherit from the same gene-pool when it came to looks. After shouting both girls drinks for a few hours he took the DateInAsia chick back to his room and although they slept together, she was too shy to have sex. She told him that she hadn't had sex in a year and she wanted to get to know someone first. He described it as being akin to torture seeing her sexy young body in his bed but not being able to do anything.

Tonight's bar crawl started at BODY SHOP at 8. 50 pm. 18 girls were dancing onstage and although all of them were young (I'd guess 18-25 was the age range), most were fairly average. They were the cute and smiley types. Macca noticed a small menu on the table for Viagra, Cialis and kamagra and was impressed by the prices (250 pesos for four tablets). Ever the entrepreneur he decided he'd come back on his last day to buy a stash to sell to his mates back home.

We went to our favourite bar DOLLSHOUSE next and got a seat in the corner underneath a dripping air-con unit and next to a Korean man who chain-smoked. The place was packed with customers and there was a lively atmosphere. Macca was hoping to see Maike but she wasn't there. As time ran out on our time in Angeles his chances of the dream threesome with Maike and Bella receded but he hadn't given up hope. Jenha, the girl I bar-fined on my first night in Angeles was slow dancing sexily on her own at the front of the stage and was tipped a bundle of pesos from a cheerful Indian customer at the front of the stage. Some of these Dollshouse girls must get so many tips they don't need to sleep with customers!

At quarter to ten we went to VIKING. I like the theme of this bar, although if I was being picky I think they got their vikings and pirates mixed up. The stage in the centre is a Viking ship and there are skulls on the walls. Perhaps they are customers who didn't pay their chit? We got stools right next to the stage and 20 girls were dancing, all of whom were young with lovely slim bodies. No Jollibee bellies here. Macca took a shine to a girl on stage with lovely dark skin but unlike the other girls, she stood there shuffling from side to side looking bored and not smiling. In contrast another girl kept smiling cheekily to Macca. Viking is one of those bars where girls take a few steps to the side after every song but wherever she stood she smiled over.

I wasn't feeling too well. Maybe all of the late night drinking had caught up with me? I gulped down my third bottle of water in a desperate effort to rehydrate. Macca gave the smiley girl a 100 peso tip before we left. Hopefully she would remember him if he decided to return later.

Next door is SEA STAR. It's one of those Fields Avenue bars it would be easy to overlook in favour of the bigger bars but I really liked the atmosphere. It had a stage in the middle on which 10 girls were dancing and a cage in which a naughty one was locked up. Girls slid on to the stage down a chrome pole. The place had a dark, sleazy feel, not least because of the hip-hop music blaring out. Hip-hop isn't my favourite music but it's great in gogo bars to get the girls bumping and grinding sexily. There were some nice looking girls too. Macca and I decided that a cutie with a braces on her teeth and a bow in her blond curly hair was the standout. I called her down for a lady-drink (300 pesos) but as soon as she spoke I realised that she was a ladyboy. 'Her' voice was deep and her mannerisms were masculine too. I told Macca about my suspicions and he asked the waitress he was chatting with. She confirmed it much to Macca's amusement and within seconds he was texting Owen in Hua Hin to tell him I'd bought a lady-drink for a lady-boy! I pointed out to him that he himself had agreed that she was the prettiest girl in the bar!

Although lady-boys aren't my thing and I'm not sure they should be working in bars like this, I do try to respect people's feelings and she seemed quite shy and timid. We had a good chat and when I stood up to leave she said gratefully "thank you so much for the drink". I told her it had been nice to meet her and meant it.

Would we be celebrating in cork-popping fashion in CHAMPAGNE? It's a narrow bar and we got front-row stools propped up against the stage. We were so close to the dancing girls we could reach out and touch them. 8 were dancing but the standard wasn't great. They were sweet types but not pretty. But these kind of bars are often the most fun and Macca and I had lots of banter with the girls, teaching them some of our trademark dance moves. They loved it. Girls in these smaller 'ex pat' bars always have great attitudes. Facing the stage is a row of seats that were taken up by older gents, some of whom had pretty companions at their side. The prettiest was with an elderly Chinese man who was standing up to leave. He gave her a kiss on the cheek and when he turned his back to walk away she screwed her face up and wiped her cheek in comical fashion.

Next door is HOT LIPS. It has an L-shaped stage and there were 6 girls dancing, a couple of whom were certainly the type I'd happily call down for a lady-drink. But Macca was determined to play pool against me. We agreed on a 200 peso stake, best of three.

Macca is a maverick pool player, capable of brilliance on his day, whereas I'm a slower, tactical performer, perfectly happy to grind down my opposition with relentless safety. He won the first frame, I won the second. I needed help for the decider so enlisted the help of two girls on stage to be my cheerleaders, a sweet blond and a curly-haired girl with a sexy body. It was a tense frame but they carried me over the finish line, cheering and clapping as I won the decider.

One of our favourite bars is CRYSTAL PALACE. We walked in at midnight and there were 20 girls on stage, including a few real lookers. In the middle I spotted a pretty girl with a curvaceous body and a lovely face. There was an elegance about her I liked so I called her down for a lady-drink. Her name was Scarlet and we got along well. She was one of those quieter girls who carefully considers what they say and our conversation didn't follow the usual course when you speak to a gogo girl. I was intrigued by her.

Macca had called down a pretty young thing with a bow in her hair for a lady-drink. She was a sweet sort with a slim and slender body. After chatting with her for a while Macca leaned across and told me that he was torn about taking her. In terms of looks, body and attitude she ticked all of the boxes but she was 19 and had bad skin. It looked fine to me from about a meter away but Macca told me it really puts him off.

I decided to bar-fine Scarlet as there was something different about her. The bar-fine was 3000 pesos and she reappeared shortly afterwards wearing an elegant black and white dress and thick, fashionable glasses. I always enjoy seeing what girls wear after they get bar-fined and I loved her style.

Macca decided that he wanted to go back to VIKING to bar-fine the flirty girl he gave a tip to. It was only 1 am so I decided to take Scarlet along too. We got stage-side stools and Macca immediately spotted the girl he liked on stage and summoned her down for a drink. The girls were screaming loudly because an older Filipino woman, presumably the manager, tossed pesos up in to the air. The girls jumped to catch them, inevitably grasping at thin air, then scrambled around to pick them up from the floor to boost their nightly wage.

It was nice to buy a girl a drink without being charged double lady-drink prices. I held Scarlet's hand and enjoyed chatting but the music was loud so it was difficult to talk. I began shivering and coughing, I presume caused by all of the cigarette smoke I inhaled tonight. It felt like I might be coming down with something. I decided to leave and said goodnight to Macca, who had also bar-fine his girl. Scarlet and I walked back to my hotel via a 7 eleven where I bought us some snacks. At the checkout Scarlet put some lozenges on to the counter to help my throat.

In my room we cuddled up on the bed and had a long chat. I enjoy getting to know these girls but occasionally you hear sad stories. Scarlet told me that when she was 13 her stepfather molested her and she ran away from home. She ended up in Angeles, got a fake ID and started working in a Korean bar. She became pregnant to a customer aged 15 and had a baby daughter. She continued to work at the bars afterwards and became a popular girl and proudly told me she won a Club Asia fashion show in 2012. She met so many customers she became fascinated about learning languages and as a result can now speak English, Korean and Japanese fluently and is currently learning Turkish and Arabic. She was a smart girl and with a brain like hers could be earning a fortune in the West. She told me that two customers had proposed to her, including an Australian millionaire, but they wanted to whisk her away and her children couldn't get visas.

Although her story was sad, she wasn't a sad person. She was an intelligent, smart girl who loved her family more than anything.

She told me I was a good listener and kissed me. She was a fabulous kisser and soon we were both naked and I was admiring her beautiful body. She said "me fat" which was nonsense of course, she had fantastic curves. She gave me a great blow-job, slow and deep, using lots of suction and I put a condom on and fucked her in a variety of positions. Perhaps due to the way she opened up to me with her life story, it seemed somehow more intimate than the usual pay-for-play sex, with lots of eye contact and gentle kissing. She pushed me to lie on my back and with both feet on the bed lowered herself on to my dick. She bounced up and down on me, riding me until I came. It was great sex with a girl I'd grown to like in a short space of time.

We showered and curled up to sleep afterwards. But as I lay in bed I was burning with a temperature and coughing. She placed her hand on my forehead and looked shocked. "You hot! Are you okay?" I didn't feel well but drank lots of water and hoped I'd feel better in the morning. I had just one full day left in Angeles and couldn't afford to feel ill.

Pip Jaeger
04-17-15, 22:05
So I forgot to put the acknowledgement in my post, sorry Sir Lancelot.So I'm not your hero (insert frowny face)? LOL. Sorry mate, couldn't resist taking a poke at you.

At Sir Lancelot, wasn't trying to steal your thunder or a fan, just having a bit of fun. And thanks for the great set of reports.

Gus69
04-17-15, 23:33
Sir Lancelot.

Thank you very much for giving me something to look forward to every day with your TRs, it looks like it will shortly becoming to an end.

But once again, many thanks.

Just one thing about Philippines GoGos, do they all allow smoking? I think when a GoGo is Air Conditioned smoke seems so much worse.

As you can guess, instaed of going to Thailand twice per year I am seriously considering hitting Angeles and Subic in January.

Fastpiston
04-18-15, 03:03
Sir Lancelot.

Thank you very much for giving me something to look forward to every day with your TRs, it looks like it will shortly becoming to an end.

But once again, many thanks.

Just one thing about Philippines GoGos, do they all allow smoking? I think when a GoGo is Air Conditioned smoke seems so much worse.

As you can guess, instaed of going to Thailand twice per year I am seriously considering hitting Angeles and Subic in January.Although I understand smoking in buildings is not allowed in the Philippines e. G. Malls, all bars allow it in Angeles. If a bar discouraged smoking, the bar would be empty.

From my observation, most customers are chain smokers and Koreans fast chain smokers.

Bobby591
04-18-15, 10:00
Nice field reports Sir Lancelot, make me to plan my next trip to Philippines. Always been to fan of your reports in Thailand forum. Been to Thailand and Indonesia but will try to make my cherry trip to Philippines this year.

Redman69
04-19-15, 00:09
Thanks, I can say the same as another admirer. I looked forward to going to work and reading your report. The detail, Dealing with Friends, Missing out on the good one dreaming about the greener grass on the other side. I can relate and it reminds me of my trips. Just one to A / see, but many to Manila. I am married now to a young Pina. But I still have some good memorys of the cheapest pussy I have ever had. RENTED Of course. Go with God with a stiff wind at your back and a following sea. RED.

VeniceBoy72
04-19-15, 04:55
Had a quick trip to Baguio and decided to stop by Angeles on the way and most of the hotels were booked. Got lucky with a deal with Hotel America where the first 20 customers per day get a full 24 hours regardless of check in time which was great since I got in about 12 AM. One of the bar girls I'm seeing didn't want to stay overnight saying a lot her friends says the place is haunted and have seen ghosts. I love meeting bar girls who ended up being regulars without compensation. I know she's working "let's be boyfriend girlfriend angle" so I'll just enjoy it while it lasts. Came over for sex after her shift at PonyTails but wanted to sleep in her own place but came back first thing in the morning for round 2, a late breakfast and a kiss goodbye.

Sir Lancelot
04-19-15, 18:08
Day 23, Angeles.

Today was my last day in Angeles and I woke feeling dreadful. Scarlet left at 11 am so I went back to bed and spent the afternoon sleeping. I had hoped to take another girl from Perimeter Road this afternoon but that was completely out of the question, I was burning hot one moment and shivering the next. I forced myself out of bed at 6 pm to have a long hot shower and felt somewhat better.

I had a quick chore I needed to do, so decided to treat it as a fitness test to see if I was well enough for a final fling on Fields Avenue later.

I went to Body Shop and the time was 7 pm when I entered. As usual at this time the stage was crowded with young girls but for once I walked past them to the bar. I bought 12 boxes of cialis for 250 pesos each, each containing four 20 MG tablets. I'm 40 years old and only occasionally use them myself (usually at the end of a long trip after lots of sex) but the entrepreneur in me was thinking about making a bit of money when I got home by selling them to some of the guys in the local pub.

I left Body Shop and the warm evening air made me feel marginally better. I decided that I would meet Macca as planned later. It was our last night together before I headed to Manila and he headed to Cebu and it was going to take a lot more than a bit of man-flu to stop me! As I walked back to my hotel a young massage girl said "massage sir?" and as I walked past added "I give you everything".

As usual I met Macca at KOKOMOZ. The mere though of alcohol tipped me over the edge so I ordered a bottle of water. I hadn't eaten all day but didn't feel hungry. Macca turned up shortly afterwards and told me that he was also feeling ill. It was our last night in Angeles and it was turning in to a damp squib as we were both under the weather! But things picked up after a helpful waitress directed us to a pharmacy on Fields Avenue. It was located next door to Shooterz and after we explained our symptoms we were handed a strip of green tablets for 100 pesos by a wily old woman. We each took one and they had an immediate effect. Suddenly I didn't feel as feverish and miraculously was ready for a night at the gogo bars! I'm not sure what they were called but I wished I bought 3000 pesos worth of these tablets instead of the cialis as I'd make a fortune back in England.

Rejuvenated and reinvigorated, we started our night in KINGS LANDING, lured in by a cute 'Hello girl' wearing glasses. 20 girls were on stage and I was highly impressed with the standard of girls. It's not really one of the talked about venues on Fields Avenue but Macca and I agreed that it had one of the best lineups we'd seen in Angeles. There were 4 or 5 lovely girls and there was a good atmosphere too as they flirted and smiled at customers as they danced. Macca bought a lady-drink for a pretty waitress with fair hair. He was drinking a glass of pineapple juice (this is the guy who teased me for drinking water earlier in the trip!) and smoothly told her that pineapple juice makes sperm taste sweet. Who says romance is dead! Incredibly his line seemed to work and she giggled and stroked his arm with her fingernails. He leaned to me and said "I'm aroused".

I saw a few beautiful girls on stage but decided that since I was still feeling a little feverish, I would ease myself in to the night. I gulped down another tablet and felt a surge of energy rushing through my veins. These tablets are magic!

At 8. 40 pm we went to DOLLSHOUSE and got seats at the side of the stage. Maike was there and so was her best friend Bella, who Macca had hoped to line up for a threesome. He was leaving for Cebu tomorrow so it wouldn't happen this trip but he told me that they'd agreed to it when he comes back to Philippines in November. I was really pleased to hear this. This was his first trip to Philippines and I was delighted that he'd enjoyed it so much he wanted to return later in the year.

There was a catwalk show in which 15 girls lined up at the back of the stage and each took it in turns parading around the bar. It's a good way to showcase the talent and I saw the lovely Jehna, who bar-fined on my first night in Angeles. She looked sexy once again and I fondly recalled her riding me as I clutched her firm tits. A couple of minutes later there was a collective dropping of jaws when Bella appeared on stage. She was an absolute stunner, a 10/10 in my books without question. Macca, Maike and I clapped and cheered as she walked around the stage and she pulled a tongue to us by way of thanks. I noticed that a lot of customers followed her with their eyes as she left the stage and sat back down next to Macca. She was a star girl for sure. She was funny too. She told Macca "I'm better than other pussy and you better know that dickhead"!

In the space of 8 days I'd visited 46 different bars in Angeles and would say without question that Dollshouse has the best lineup of girls. There are loads to choose from ranging from innocent cuties to catwalk model types. Every time I visited I was spoilt for choice for potential bar-fines.

I decided to go to CRYSTAL PALACE next to buy a lady-drink for Scarlet to thank her for looking after me last night when I started to feel ill. I saw her dancing in the middle of the stage, surrounded by about 25 girls (I use the word 'dancing' loosely, she was shuffling from foot to foot, squeezed shoulder-to-shoulder with the other girls). She saw me and smiled and I immediately invited her down for a drink. She sat next to me and held my hand as we chatted. She was a lovely girl and it was nice to see her again.

Macca asked me if I'd like a rematch at pool so we agreed on a 200 peso bet, best of three. Once again he won the first frame and once again I stormed back to win 2-1. I could swear Macca had a tear in his eye as he handed over my winnings. I was feeling much better, so ordered a pizza and my first beer of the night. I was feeling good, it looked like I might be taking a girl after all.

Two cute girls re-racked the balls after each frame and they challenged us to a match. They said "if we win, you buy us lady-drink, okay?" It had all the hallmarks of a hustle but we agreed. One of the girls broke off and it was my shot. I potted a long pot, then a tricky one down the cushion and suddenly I was on fire, potting balls at will. I've never cleared up in one visit before and the girls screamed comically when I potted the black in to the middle pocket to win the frame. My finest sporting moment! The less said about the subsequent two frames, the better. Macca and I bought the girls a lady-drink each as promised.

So far on this trip I'd fucked 16 girls and my chances of reaching 20 seemed beyond me. Even if I went with a new girl tonight then my tally would be 17 going in to the last day and I'd already arranged to meet up with Jonalyn tomorrow night. As a result I didn't feel the pressure to take a new girl, so decided to bar-fine Scarlet again.

She went to get changed and Macca told me that he had arranged to meet up with his DateInAsia girl again, the shy one who he slept with a couple of nights ago but didn't fuck. He told me that her text messages since implied that a home run was on the cards tonight. Macca and I said our goodbyes and I wished him good luck in Cebu. I'd really enjoyed spending time with him and Owen. In previous trips to Philippines I've flown solo but their company added a lot of fun to proceedings.

Scarlet and I walked back to my hotel and watched a film in bed on her I-pad. As we watched she pinched me on the cheek and said "you look like Filipino movie star!" She's the third girl in Philippines who has said this to me but I find it a little hard to believe as I'm whiter than Michael Jackson. She had a wicked laugh and laughed hysterically whenever an odd looking creature said "I am Groot". As the films credits began to roll we kissed and soon I was on top of her, fucking her slowly. We had slow passionate sex with lots of kissing and she told me "round two tomorrow" as we cuddled up afterwards.

Before we drifted off to sleep she whispered "I have spent night with many men but I like talking to you most". What a lovely compliment. In a way she was the perfect way to end my time in Angeles. I'd fucked some beautiful girls and some who provided porn-style sex but she provided the kind of girlfriend experience I crave.

I have really enjoyed my time in Angeles. In 8 days, I'd been to 75 bars (46 separate venues) and slept with 9 girls. Some of them were stunners. Marnie from Angel Witch was cutness personified, the gorgeous Melanie from Roadhouse gave me some of the best sex I've ever had, Kylie gave me deep-throat (I never through I'd hear myself saying those words) and the sight of Nicole's pendulous breasts would live long in the memory. Scarlet was the icing on the cake.

Whenever I research trips I sometimes read a lot of negativity, as people recall how Angeles for example is not the place it used to be. So for the sake of balance, here are some improvements I've noticed since my last trip. Firstly every single girl stayed with me all night, whereas on my previous trip I had a few Dexy's (midnight runners). Secondly there was hardly any pressure in the bars to buy lady-drinks. On my previous visit I got badgered quite a lot to buy drinks but I could count the number of times on one hand on this trip. People sometimes say that the standard of girls is down but that doesn't mean that there isn't a staggeringly large amount of sexy young girls eager to spread their legs for cash. The sex is fantastic too. I've fucked girls in lots of countries in Asia and no girls come close to Filipina's. They're without doubt the most carnal creatures on the planet.

Sometimes people worry about the occasional bar raids that happen but my visit was just a few days after Nemesis was raided and life just goes on as normal in Angeles. The bars stay open and there remains a huge selection of girls to choose from. Even Nemesis was back to normal after three or four days. These raids are down to a corrupt cop, not a clampdown on prostitution.

On my last visit to Angeles three years ago the girls received health-checks but now the bars insist on them every week. And then there is the atmosphere of the bars. Sometimes gogo bars can be quite sad places, girls going through the motions to make money doing a job they hate, but on this trip the bars have often been fun places where the girls are smiling and joking on stage. To someone like me, for whom a smile is the biggest aphrodisiac, it's been particularly noticeable.

Furthermore Angeles represents fantastic value for money. To bar-fine a looker from one of the big bars costs a one-off fee of 3000 pesos and the girl will stay with you all night (exceptions prevail of course, especially if you like to bar-fine early). But to bar-fine a girl of a similar standard in Pattaya will cost 3000 baht for long-time, plus a minimum of 600 baht for the bar-fine. 3600 baht is about 4925 pesos which is 65% more expensive than Angeles. Plus bear in mind that I did most of my hunting on Field Avenue where the prices are higher. Gems can be found in the smaller bars for less than 2000 pesos. So if it's better sex you're after for cheaper prices, Angeles is your place.

For gogo bars, Angeles is king.

Please note: this will be my last diary entry on the Angeles thread, so a few thank you's. Firstly thanks to all of those who have posted useful info over the past year, as you helped me research and plan my trip. Secondly thanks to anyone who has generously posted a nice comment or sent me a private message. I notice that some of you have never been to Philippines and I hope my diary has persuaded you to visit this wonderful place. The final installment of my diary will continue on the Manila thread and to give you a little sneak preview, fucking four girls in 24 hours to reach my 20 girl challenge wasn't too far-fetched after all.

Guillermo
04-19-15, 22:53
I notice that some of you have never been to Philippines and I hope my diary has persuaded you to visit this wonderful place.Sir Lancelot,

Thanks for your excellent posts on Angeles. I've been following your travels through the go-go bars on the acmap.com and between that and the viddies on YouTube, it's an excellent introduction to the "lay of the land".

Your reports, while entertaining and excellently illustrated, are also filled with a lot of important details, particularly for someone like myself who has not been there...yet.

Nclpimp
04-20-15, 19:57
I wonder if pacman wins will the pinays give out free pussy in celebration. Thing is it will be in the morning so it might ware off my night time.

D Cups
04-20-15, 21:00
I wonder if pacman wins will the pinays give out free pussy in celebration. Thing is it will be in the morning so it might ware off my night time.The only one getting the free pussy is Pacman.

Dg8787
04-21-15, 02:10
I wonder if pacman wins will the pinays give out free pussy in celebration. Thing is it will be in the morning so it might ware off my night time.And I imagine you will bend you rear end over for bbc if Mayweather wins! For free!

JohnnyVegas
04-23-15, 00:02
Day 23, Angeles.

Today was my last day in Angeles and I woke feeling dreadful. 20 girl challenge wasn't too far-fetched after all.Great posts. Thanks for taking the time to share the details. I just can't believe Field Ave girls are now 3,000. At 1,600 back 5 - 6 years ago it was a real bargain. Seems the same as Patts now. Especially with Soi 6 being only 1,200. When I was in AC a few years back the girls would stay for days. You'd have to go back with them to their club to BF them again but it was tough to shake them off. They were super sweet and fun. After 3 days I said I was leaving, packed up and said goodbye. Had to change hotels or just not visit their club again to shake them. LOL.

BTW they are pretty passionate love makers...and I've been mongering in 35+ countries...but I just discovered CUBA and nothing compares!! SHHH

Fast Eddie 48
04-23-15, 02:41
Great posts. Thanks for taking the time to share the details. I just can't believe Field Ave girls are now 3,000. At 1,600 back 5 - 6 years ago it was a real bargain. Seems the same as Patts now. Especially with Soi 6 being only 1,200. When I was in AC a few years back the girls would stay for days. You'd have to go back with them to their club to BF them again but it was tough to shake them off. They were super sweet and fun. After 3 days I said I was leaving, packed up and said goodbye. Had to change hotels or just not visit their club again to shake them. LOL.

BTW they are pretty passionate love makers...and I've been mongering in 35+ countries...but I just discovered CUBA and nothing compares!! SHHHTo Johnny v.

How is Cuba the new Frontier where not many ISG member have gone before also my next mongering trip will stop by in a few month after my business trip to Brazil and finally get me some cheap chica and Cohiba.

Fast eddie 48.

Mogwai
04-23-15, 07:30
I just can't believe Field Ave girls are now 3,000. At 1,600 back 5 - 6 years ago it was a real bargain. Seems the same as Patts now. Especially with Soi 6 being only 1,200. Not all of the Fields Ave girls are 3000. SirLance seems to like the top end of the market. Most bars on Fields will quote you something around 2300 to 2500.

And that is still much cheaper than Pattaya because it's for LT. The 1200 you mention for Soi 6 is for ST (actually it's 1300, in Baht).

Sxxxx
04-23-15, 07:54
Not all of the Fields Ave girls are 3000. SirLance seems to like the top end of the market. Most bars on Fields will quote you something around 2300 to 2500.Lance also paid P3000 bar fine at Roadhouse, which is not in Fields proper, in between Fields and start of Perimeter, where barfines are P1250/1500 normally. He seemed to pay P3000 bar fine for all the girls, and pay P300 for every ladies drink, when P150 for a ladies drink is the norm. Two week millionaire LOL.

Switched
04-23-15, 09:57
Not all of the Fields Ave girls are 3000. SirLance seems to like the top end of the market. Most bars on Fields will quote you something around 2300 to 2500.I disagree with this statement. Whilst Sir Lancelot was able to find cheaper venues, these were not located on Fields (AKA Walking Street) and further down perimeter road, where the lighting gets poorer and it is usually more difficult to find a stunner (but not impossible).

The OP was correct in his statement that php3000 is now a standard price for Fields and the bars just outside of it.

Socker
04-23-15, 16:24
I disagree with this statement. Whilst Sir Lancelot was able to find cheaper venues, these were not located on Fields (AKA Walking Street) and further down perimeter road, where the lighting gets poorer and it is usually more difficult to find a stunner (but not impossible).

The OP was correct in his statement that php3000 is now a standard price for Fields and the bars just outside of it.My experience last Feb was the big Fields bars are 3000 p. The smaller bars like Hollywood, Shipwreck, etc go from 2000 p on up. I had a great time w / ladies from the both types of bars.

The Perimeter bars I went into were 1800 p, I took a honey out of Roadies for 2000 p if my memory is right. I also went to Subic Bay for the first time and the bar fines there were 1500 p except for one bar called Catwalk, 2000p.

The one in the red (I bring lingerie) from Roadies, skirt and white top from Hollywood, the cowgirl from Shipwreck. I thought the AC scene was the best I've seen it since I first started going in 10.

Also thanks to Lancelot for an informative series of TRs on the PI, well done.

Dg8787
04-23-15, 16:55
I understand Lollipops dropped the BF to 2500 from a dancer that moved over to a perimeter bar. I really don't know about the rest of the fields bars. I have been going to perimeter bars. Seems like quite a few Det5 girls went to Fire Pit. I heard Fire Pit has 70 dancers now!

Yes there are stunners in perimeter bars. You just have to look for them.

It seems to me that on a few nights Sir Lancelot paid BF of 2000 and lady drinks less than 300. But who is counting? And it was his money that he was spending so who really cares? He wrote some good reports and we can take away what ever we want from them. No need to crap on his 2 week escapes.

Btw, the 2 week millionaires sudsidizes the cheap Charlie's. So be happy!

Sir Lancelot
04-23-15, 20:22
Lance also paid P3000 bar fine at Roadhouse, which is not in Fields proper, in between Fields and start of Perimeter, where barfines are P1250/1500 normally. He seemed to pay P3000 bar fine for all the girls, and pay P300 for every ladies drink, when P150 for a ladies drink is the norm. Two week millionaire LOL.I would like to think my diaries show me not to be an over-indulgent kind of guy. I did a lot of my bar-crawling on Fields Avenue or the bottom end of Fields (I. E from Ponytails to the Walking Street sign) and lots of the bars had 3000 bar-fines. Even when I didn't bar-fine, I asked. There were lots of exceptions of course, for example the Pasha group bars are 2500, I bar-fined a lovely girl (a 'model' no less, ahem) from Equus for 2500 and girls from Ponytails and Eruptions for 2000. Smaller bars like Lollipop, La Bamba and Gecko are cheaper too and have nice girls. I didn't pay 300 for every lady-drink either, I'm not sure where you got that from.

I find your attitude quite amusing actually. The girls I took from Angelwitch and Roadhouse were the two prettiest I took all trip and they would laugh in your face if you offered them 1250 for their bar-fine. It simply wouldn't happen. They obviously operate a two-tier bar-fine system and you have a penchant for the cheaper girls. Two week millionaires like me must go for the prettier ones.

D Cups
04-23-15, 21:13
Yes, thanks, Lance. Outstanding literary and pictorial. As for barfines, the only one I would pay 3 K for was that doubledee in Atlantis and only if she stayed all night. But I have some regulars in AC for the price of a meal and some lingerie they treat me real nice and are in the range of 7. In any case I don't know why you guys don't skip the barfines and pay them directly before or after work or day off. Cheers.


Also thanks to Lancelot for an informative series of TRs on the PI, well done..

Dg8787
04-24-15, 04:00
I would like to think my diaries show me not to be an over-indulgent kind of guy. I did a lot of my bar-crawling on Fields Avenue or the bottom end of Fields (I. E from Ponytails to the Walking Street sign) and lots of the bars had 3000 bar-fines. Even when I didn't bar-fine, I asked. There were lots of exceptions of course, for example the Pasha group bars are 2500, I bar-fined a lovely girl (a 'model' no less, ahem) from Equus for 2500 and girls from Ponytails and Eruptions for 2000. Smaller bars like Lollipop, La Bamba and Gecko are cheaper too and have nice girls. I didn't pay 300 for every lady-drink either, I'm not sure where you got that from.

I find your attitude quite amusing actually. The girls I took from Angelwitch and Roadhouse were the two prettiest I took all trip and they would laugh in your face if you offered them 1250 for their bar-fine. It simply wouldn't happen. They obviously operate a two-tier bar-fine system and you have a penchant for the cheaper girls. Two week millionaires like me must go for the prettier ones.Sir Lancelot, you don't need anyone's permission to boom boom any girl with your own Richard and money anytime or anywhere. No need to worry or to try and remember what you paid and with whom. You provided enough details for someone on the sidelines to chart and graph your 2 weeks of sexing, assuming they have both hands free.

X Man
04-24-15, 13:19
D cup, I've done this, but it doesn't always work. Sometimes it works exceedingly well.

If you live in PI or often visit, you can find all kinds of cheap fun. Been there, done that. But if you find the girl of your dreams in some AC bar, you should barfine. As previous posts clearly illuminate, the next guy in the bar can steal your "big fish" regardless of what she promised. Or worse, you can wake up with a hangover and realize the girl of your dreams texted you three or six times about 3 am when she got off work, but you were too drunk to wake up. Been there, done that!

If you spend a lot of time in the Philippines, it gets easier and easier, so I understand the the Cup message. On my last visit (Cebu, not AC) I had unlimited fun, but out of ten days I paid only one barfine.


Yes, thanks, Lance. Outstanding literary and pictorial. As for barfines, the only one I would pay 3 K for was that doubledee in Atlantis and only if she stayed all night. But I have some regulars in AC for the price of a meal and some lingerie they treat me real nice and are in the range of 7. In any case I don't know why you guys don't skip the barfines and pay them directly before or after work or day off. Cheers.

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D Cups
04-24-15, 14:58
Yes, good points, X. It is easier in Cebu. I hardly ever do bar girls in Cebu because there are so many non P4 P cuties that are easy to be with.

QUOTE=X Man;1711739]the cup, I've done this, but it doesn't always work.

AbdullaBinali
04-24-15, 16:50
I am visiting angels in second week of may. Any girl intersting in become my paid GF contact me. 7 days GFE.

Pekkakoo
04-24-15, 22:06
I was thinking going to AC for the first time, because I want some change. I have been to Pattaya many times and also Manila and Cebu. Do you think AC is more dangerous than Pattaya? I also need to visit Manila so what do you suggest for transportation, a bus, a taxi or a flight to Clark?

Val979
04-24-15, 22:23
You can skip the barfine and just go to club High Society there are plenty of Freelancers that will stay all night for 2 k maybe less if drunk and into you.

Pip Jaeger
04-24-15, 23:01
I am visiting angels in second week of may. Any girl intersting in become my paid GF contact me. 7 days GFE.This is an ad, you should have posted it the classified's thread, LOL.

All kidding aside, wait to you get there, find a girl you like (and who likes you) and then cut a deal. It's not like there's a shortage of ready, willing and available girls in AC.

D Cups
04-25-15, 01:49
Neither place is dangerous unless you're stumbling around stupid drunk or wearing something expensive you shouldn't. How can we tell you to fly there if you don't say where you are from? Geez. '


I was thinking going to AC for the first time, because I want some change. I have been to Pattaya many times and also Manila and Cebu. Do you think AC is more dangerous than Pattaya? I also need to visit Manila so what do you suggest for transportation, a bus, a taxi or a flight to Clark?.

Aviator12
04-26-15, 17:58
I was thinking going to AC for the first time, because I want some change. I have been to Pattaya many times and also Manila and Cebu. Do you think AC is more dangerous than Pattaya? I also need to visit Manila so what do you suggest for transportation, a bus, a taxi or a flight to Clark?If you have to go to Manila first I suggest you order a car from your Angeles hotel. I just did last week. 2900 peso from Manila airport to Wild Orchid Hotel. The rate is probably the same for other hotels and you will avoid the hassle of taking a bus, so it is my best advise. Angeles is not more dangerous than Manila or Cebu for this hobby. You have been there so you probably know how to stay out of trouble.

Angeles compared to Pattaya? Angeles is much smaller. Only men go to Angeles while Pattaya will have families, women, Japanese tourists etc. General quality of girls is much higher in Pattaya and the girls are more "feminine". Angeles bars have also some stunners but they are rare. The girls have bellies. Probably because they eat the bad food at JollyBee and similar places and do not consume the large amount of chilly as their Thai sisters will do.

Many new bars in Angeles the past 2 years and the place seems to be a little refreshed and upgraded. But I was very surprised by the lack of customers when I was there last week. Very quiet in some of the bars, especially the large one like Atlantis, DollHouse etc. Better actually in the small joints. And a good party atmosphere. I was with a girlfriend so I did not try the beauties on offer. Do not worry; you can still have a good time here! If you enjoy it as much as Pattaya is up to you to judge. Send us a report!

BrainDrain
04-30-15, 08:32
Had a good couple of days in AC earlier this week.

Landed into Clark DMIA at about 11:30 pm, surprisingly quick clearance and met by ABC Hotel driver. Whisked away and welcomed back 'home' by the staff. Quick unpack of the essentials, popped a viagra and headed out for a walk. Went to Viking Bar where I had closed out my last trip earlier this year. I felt it nice to provide some continuity to my travels. And bought a drink for a waitress, wasn't ready yet to BF. Visited a few places and ended up at Insomnia. Watched a few dances but could not shake my braced, average waitress. Called down one enthusiastic dancer, checked non- mens, would stay until 10 am, $3 k barfine and booked the ABC van to fetch me.

Back in the room, in bed she asks if she could leave at 4 am to go back and drink with her friends. Ummm no, reminded her of her earlier statements. She was 'ok", very pretty but felt things were a chore for her. Sent her on her way about 8 am. My general feeling is that Insomnia is feeling expensive now.

After breakfast was contact by Heavenly Massage on WeChat. Also contacted by plenty of ladyboys on wechat. Eventually Maureen from Heavenly massage came to my room. P350 for massage. Nice mum of three. Only hand job extra available. Her clothes stayed on but she was fun.

Met an old flame one afternoon on her way to 4 pm shift. P200 donation for trike, nothing else expected.

Later caught up with a very stunning 23 year old that I am sure many of us have met. She's looking for work outside of the bar scene. Had some Jollibee together, looked at her beautiful face then back to the hotel and had a good couple of hours. She explains she not have a BF, but she did need to run off to meet her brother. Turns out her 'brother' was on a trike outside waiting for her. It seems weird that we get to enjoy there girls so much and they can just turn their back and be with their BF again.

Final night worked a few of the bars, nothing really excited me. I worked my way back to Viking Bar where I had been two nights earlier. Met a few girls, bought a lady drink for a dancer, ok but nothing spectacular. My little waitress from two nights earlier worked her way into my peripheral vision, then onto my seat and eventually into my arms. BF here are P2500. Back home to bed and she really was spectacular. Hard at it in bed and she brings out her camera to start taking some snaps. She likes seeing her face in the throws of sex to check on her 'performance'. I wonder if I will star on the photo thread. She left about 8 am.

Later that afternoon I had a decent massage, and of course once again with happy ending.

Before long I was on my way back to DMIA and home.

Oh, also caught up with a couple of previous flames for lunch dates, no sex expected, just chat and support them.

AC, I will be back.

BD.

BrainDrain
04-30-15, 08:42
Had a good couple of drinks at Angel Witch. Was a nice vibe, the girls were friendly. I hadn't been in here before for some reason and I will definitely have it on my radar again. There was a reasonable amount of pressure from the girls for Lady Drinks. Easy enough to say no.

There was some kind of commotion going on outside the bar and I was escorted out a side door through 'roadhouse' (I think) bar.

There was a scene at Viking Bar where a client was arguing about his bartab. Seems there were lots of dockets and lady drinks but he was short on cash so taking it out on the girls. Fellas if you are on a budget, watch your dockets.

Generally with the recent dive in the AUD: PHP exchange rate, for Aussies, AC feels more expensive than previous visits. It's important to keep things in context though:

In room massage. AUD $11 , happy ended +$6.

Barfine $50-$100 for overnight long time.

I did hang around another night to meet a girl after her shift. Possibly not worth it, but he time I waited for dawn and she evaded her bosses. I did avoid a barfine and paid her the P1,500 directly.

Still has to be the best time!

OlBlueEyes1979
05-03-15, 02:14
Just wanted to thank all the people that post to these forums I feel like I have a good idea what I am going to be doing when I get there. I will try to add post similar to a current poster with detailed descriptions!

I will be in AC for a week then to Bangkok and back to Makati so I will post to those threads as well.

If anyone is in Angeles City 11-17 and want to hang out shoot me a message! It would be cool to have a wingman to have to talk to when not with a girl!

SteelBaton
05-03-15, 07:57
I recently spent 24 hours in AC and I have to say I was really disappointed in the quality of the girls. I went to several of the recommended places over a 10 hour period. I was looking for one type of girl: no babies, under 30 and not fat. That's not a high bar in Asia, but I was told again and again that in a bar with 80 girls there might be only one or two that didn't have kids already. After many hours I finally found one that was appealing and under 30. Took her back to ABC and she was so hopelessly shy that my time was wasted. Getting her to come out of the bathroom shower took 15 minutes. Unwrapping the towel took 10. The BJ was exactly 37 seconds long and 3 cms deep. I finally fucked her but it was hardly worth all the hassle.

I was pleased to get to Hong Kong where girls like the photos below are readily available for US $110 from 141 sites, or Vietnam where they are available for $50 (or less) and of course China has truly amazing quality if you are willing to pay $150.

First 3 from Hong Kong, next 3 from Vietnam, last 3 from Shenzhen, China. All girls I fucked, the photos are mostly mine or reasonable likeness, and service was very good.

What compares in AC? Is AC just an attraction because the girls speak English and the prices are low? Or did I totally miss the honey pot?

KiwiBoy
05-03-15, 08:55
Time to give a little back to the forum, I've been to AC 6 times over the last 6 months.

Most of my time spent in the fields, my favourites.

Dollhouse, love being upstairs, love the pole dancing, barfined a few here 3000 php.

Cystal Palace next door, in my opinion these are the most beautiful of girls, barfined a couple here 3000 php.

24 hour voodoo bar, they have 2 cherry sisters working there who I like having a drink, 320 LD, 3000 BF.

Vikings great selection great atmosphere barfined lots out here 2500 BF.

Gekcos small club, good selection barfined a few out of here 3000 BF.

Sweet Dragon down by Mc Donalds end, has a not bad selection and good show, some ask for 4000 BF.

Dam the list goes on.

Another favourite activity is sitting at kokomoes watching the world go by, plenty of FL girls and Lady boy, have been offer ST for 500 php, 800,1000, 1500 many times.

Anyhow I spread my wings a little on my last visit and ventured down perimeter road, dam love these smaller clubs, same feeling as the clubs in Subic, the girls are not the hottest, but not so pretty girls offer great GF experience, LD are cheaper, BF cheaper 1500,1700.

I Had 3 sessions at the Drill Shack, BF1500.

I'm back in June, if anyone interested to meet up, always better with a couple of guys you can really have heaps of fun with the girls.

Member #4387
05-03-15, 09:04
As for your pic nr 9 that makes me instantly want to fly in to Shenzhen. That is in almost all ways a well tuned fine body. I have never been to Shenzhen but how is that city playing out regarding Hi so nightclubs and possible meetups. I got interested.

Switched
05-03-15, 13:00
SteelBaton,

Whilst many filipino bar girls have kids, I doubt that this is over 50%. I'd be interested in knowing what bars you ended up going to.

With such a short time frame and an idea of what you want, I would have stuck to the higher quality well lit bars on Fields.

Also, it is worth buying a waitress a drink. They will often tell you a bio on all the women and if you tell them what you want, will normally have recommendations.

Sir Lancelot
05-03-15, 13:13
I recently spent 24 hours in AC and I have to say I was really disappointed in the quality of the girls.... I was pleased to get to Hong Kong where girls like the photos below are readily available for US $110 from 141 sites, or Vietnam where they are available for $50 (or less) and of course China has truly amazing quality if you are willing to pay $150... What compares in AC? Is AC just an attraction because the girls speak English and the prices are low? Or did I totally miss the honey pot?I totally agree with you about the quality of girls in the 141 walk-ups. But as much as I loved Hong Kong (hopefully conveyed in my recent diary) and the excitement of wandering around those 141 apartment blocks, the place has several huge disadvantages over Angeles:

1. Hong Kong is incredibly expensive when it comes to accommodation / girls. I think even Floyd Mayweather would struggle to afford a fortnight there.

2. The 141 walkups are exciting but the girlfriend experience is difficult to find. In Angeles, every single girl gave me a girlfriend experience (I. E cuddles, kisses, staying all night) but in HK only 1 girl out of 6 did.

3. In Hong Kong I typically paid $500 HK (nearly 3000 pesos). For this I got half an hour and one pop with a sexy young girl. It was reminiscent of the Red Light District in Amsterdam. In Angeles I'd get to stay with a girl all night for that kind of money.

4. The photos were often very out-of-date on the 141 website. The real talent are the 'Young Buddies' 141 phone appointments but you need to speak Mandarin. I tried but failed. Also these girls charge in the region of $1000 HK+ (5500 pesos) for short-time. Some absolute stunners admittedly but that's a lot of money for half an hour of sex. In Angeles I could stay all night with two beautiful girls for that amount.

5. 141 girls hardly speak a word of English. I found just one who spoke passable conversation English. If you don't speak Mandarin, you can forget about talking to your choice of girl (I had a romantic 15 minute conversation via an app on the phone of a cutie in HK).

6. Some of the girls in the 141 apartments offer restricted menus and won't do certain positions.

Hong Kong is brilliant, don't get me wrong, but it is pricy, especially for long-time which can be astronomically expensive. There is also the option of the Wan Chai bars but to get a Filipina girl from there all night we're talking P Burgos Street prices or more for average looking girls in my opinion.

And that's the main difference between the two in my experience, value for money. In Angeles I'll visit lots of bars, pick a girl and then she'll stay all night with me. We'll have sex, talk, joke around, watch a film perhaps and curl up to sleep at the end of the night, then perhaps do it all again in the morning. For the same price in Hong Kong, I'd wander the apartment blocks, find a girl, fuck her and half an hour later I'd be back on the way home to my hotel.

I was only in China as a tourist so can't comment about Shenzhen, other than to say I took a train from there and it seemed a grim, misty, rainy, concrete jungle of a place. Plus I was amazed at how few people spoke English in China. I'd go days without having a conversation with anyone. And then there is the spitting!! However I'd be interested to hear where you can pick up girls of the quality you posted and whether they speak English and offer GFE.

I'm sorry Angeles disappointed you but I guess it proves that different people have their own personal paradises. There are thousands of girls in Angeles and I never had any problems finding beautiful girls. My friends Owen and Macca, veterans of many trips to Pattaya in Thailand, agreed.

Naked Gunz
05-03-15, 19:26
And that's the main difference between the two in my experience, value for money. In Angeles I'll visit lots of bars, pick a girl and then she'll stay all night with me. We'll have sex, talk, joke around, watch a film perhaps and curl up to sleep at the end of the night, then perhaps do it all again in the morning. For the same price in Hong Kong, I'd wander the apartment blocks, find a girl, fuck her and half an hour later I'd be back on the way home to my hotel.Attitude and GFE go a loooonng way! Don't need a stunner if this girl is treating me really good, which is pretty much what most Pinays do. It's much easier to bond when you can talk to her. The true bargain, I would assume, comes in the form of a bar girl calling the expat that lives there after the bar closes, and she's had a slow night. She will take what she can get. This is what I'm aiming for when I retire.

RacShack
05-03-15, 21:10
I totally agree with you about the quality of girls in the 141 walk-ups. But as much as I loved Hong Kong (hopefully conveyed in my recent diary) and the excitement of wandering around those 141 apartment blocks, the place has several huge disadvantages over Angeles:

1. Hong Kong is incredibly expensive when it comes to accommodation / girls. I think even Floyd Mayweather would struggle to afford a fortnight there.

2. The 141 walkups are exciting but the girlfriend experience is difficult to find. In Angeles, every single girl gave me a girlfriend experience (I. E cuddles, kisses, staying all night) but in HK only 1 girl out of 6 did.

3. In Hong Kong I typically paid $500 HK (nearly 3000 pesos). For this I got half an hour and one pop with a sexy young girl. It was reminiscent of the Red Light District in Amsterdam. In Angeles I'd get to stay with a girl all night for that kind of money.

4. The photos were often very out-of-date on the 141 website. The real talent are the 'Young Buddies' 141 phone appointments but you need to speak Mandarin. I tried but failed. Also these girls charge in the region of $1000 HK+ (5500 pesos) for short-time. Some absolute stunners admittedly but that's a lot of money for half an hour of sex. In Angeles I could stay all night with two beautiful girls for that amount.

5. 141 girls hardly speak a word of English. I found just one who spoke passable conversation English. If you don't speak Mandarin, you can forget about talking to your choice of girl (I had a romantic 15 minute conversation via an app on the phone of a cutie in HK)..What are and where are this doors with pic and coin slots on front? Please fill me in.

WestCoast1
05-03-15, 21:26
Attitude and GFE go a loooonng way! Don't need a stunner if this girl is treating me really good, which is pretty much what most Pinays do. It's much easier to bond when you can talk to her. The true bargain, I would assume, comes in the form of a bar girl calling the expat that lives there after the bar closes, and she's had a slow night. She will take what she can get.


3. In Hong Kong I typically paid $500 HK (nearly 3000 pesos). For this I got half an hour and one pop with a sexy young girl. It was reminiscent of the Red Light District in Amsterdam. In Angeles I'd get to stay with a girl all night for that kind of money.

SNIP

And that's the main difference between the two in my experience, value for money. In Angeles I'll visit lots of bars, pick a girl and then she'll stay all night with me. We'll have sex, talk, joke around, watch a film perhaps and curl up to sleep at the end of the night, then perhaps do it all again in the morning. For the same price in Hong Kong, I'd wander the apartment blocks, find a girl, fuck her and half an hour later I'd be back on the way home to my hotel.



What compares in AC? Is AC just an attraction because the girls speak English and the prices are low? Or did I totally miss the honey pot?The two answers above pretty much sum up the difference. AC is a more low-brow place; the costs are less and the attractiveness of the girls is less. The value is that the girls can converse (on their own level), and their girl-friendly-ness that develops before / after the sex can lead them right back to you.

Re Lance's comment about getting a ST /1-pop in HK (reminiscent of Amsterdam). A wingman buddy of mine and I go to Tijuana on occasion and get a bargirl or streetgirl. The girls literally are hardcore, and have per-minute attitude, right down to offering themselves for $1/ minute. 20 minutes, $20 on the street / alley; in the bars its $60 for one hour (you will have trouble getting a girl to go for less than this, and the girl will want to depart after your 1st pop, sometimes dressing and insisting on money while you are still winding down from your orgasm). If you attempt to head off this pop-and-run thing by telling the latina up front that you expect her to stay for the remainder of the full hour after your pop, there's a fair chance she will change her mind and ask for more money or refuse to go. Are the HK apartments similar? Do you shag her in her apartment? Does she come to your hotel? Does she spend the night?

Re Gunz comment about bonding: Pinay speak pass-able pidgeon English. Its hard to get used to at first, and Steel only had 24 hours. But once you get the feel for how they say things, bonding with them in a mild way goes a *long* way to getting her pants back off another time at a reduced price. No Tijuana girl has ever dropped her phone number in my lap after a session and informed me that she'd like to come to my hotel in her off time for half price (see Gunz comment), or offer a different girl for half the barfine price. Numerous AC girls have done exactly that, and on occasion they have simply stayed at my hotel overnight (after her date-less shift ended) rather than go home to her sh*t-hole place. For some of my previous AC bargirls, their LT turns into them still being around the hotel in my room after breakfast, even past noon: "I go now. I go home. My shift start 4 pm". At this point, her looks might not be that important. A fugly with a smoldering sexuality is usually worth much more (to me) than a hottie who is mechanical or wants to split early.

Amjeck
05-04-15, 05:43
What compares in AC? Is AC just an attraction because the girls speak English and the prices are low? Or did I totally miss the honey pot?PI is no comparison with China. The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick.

I think you nailed it! PI is cheaper and they speak English and that is the main draw for mongers, plus GFE.

I feel your pain when trying to find a non-mother. Not many out there in AC, plus so many of the mongers visiting AC are mother fuckers anyways, that's what keeps the supply so high. LOL

All in all if you got real money and want high quality young women who haven't procreated yet, then China is a better bet by far!

Nice Guy 99
05-04-15, 07:45
\ Numerous AC girls and on occasion they have simply stayed at my hotel overnight (after her date-less shift ended) rather than go home to her sh*t-hole place. For some of my previous AC bargirls, their LT turns into them still being around the hotel in my room after breakfast, even past noon: "I go now. I go home. My shift start 4 pm". At this point, her looks might not be that important. A fugly with a smoldering sexuality is usually worth much more (to me) than a hottie who is mechanical or wants to split early.Amen brother. It is the quality of the experience that rules.

Sxxxx
05-04-15, 09:50
Amen brother. It is the quality of the experience that rules.Same applies to the girls. They are interested in the quality of the experience with the man.

Sir Lancelot
05-04-15, 14:02
The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick... All in all if you got real money and want high quality young women who haven't procreated yet, then China is a better bet by far!I disagree with this. It paints a picture that the streets are paved in gold in China and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. Compare a stroll down the streets of Cebu with the streets of Chengdu and I saw far prettier girls in Cebu. Average looking Chinese girls are average looking girls. Plus Chinese girls are wrapped in about nine layers because the weather is colder and they smile nowhere near as much. Filipina girls are smiley, playful, flirty, inquisitive and fun to be around, whereas Chinese girls (in fact Chinese people in general) seem to have an inherent distrust of foreigners. And the language barrier is MASSIVE. Unless you speak Mandarin you will get half an hour of silence with a very pretty looking girl. It's great for the ego and the photo collection but there's more to our hobby than that.

I think your perception about the beauty of Chinese working girls is perhaps due to the completely different nature of the sex scenes.

There is nowhere in China even remotely like Angeles. Angeles has thousands of working girls in one small area, so it's no surprise that you'll see lots of average ones. That's the nature of any major sex destination. Pattaya is the same. In China though the girls are usually holed up in flats or saunas, away from prying eyes since the government clampdown, so you'll only really see the creme de la creme, the girls you researched online.

For anyone who is reading who might be tempted to try China, I'd say pay half the money and have twice the fun in Philippines. And there are some lovely girls to be found too if you make the effort.

Sir Lancelot
05-04-15, 14:33
Are the HK apartments similar? Do you shag her in her apartment? Does she come to your hotel? Does she spend the night?The girls work out of private apartments, often big blocks, in order to evade Hong Kong's 'vice establishment' law. They rent the room and leave at the end of their shift. Basically you have a choice. Either you do lots of research on the 141 website, in which each girl has a profile that includes photos, their apartment number, a list of services and price, or you just speculatively walk around the apartment blocks knocking on doors. I went with six girls and typically I paid $500 HK (3000 pesos) for a half an hour quickie in their small room. One of the pictures I posted, albeit blurry, shows one of the rooms. They are very small and very cluttered but they have a shower. You can negotiate for overnight / takeaway but it starts to get very pricey.


What are and where are this doors with pic and coin slots on front? Please fill me in.They are the 141 apartment blocks in Hong Kong. They contain lots of girls, many of whom are advertised on the 141 website. I'm not allowed to provide a link here but you can google it. The doors don't have coin slots, they are locks. You'll notice that the doors have fairy lights around them. If these are switched on it means that the girls is working.

I realised this discussion is now a bit off-topic on the Angeles page but it does raise a good point. I love Angeles but it's quite a one-dimensional place. Essentially it's a gogo town with a few blowjob bars, a nightclub and perhaps some (expensive?) massage-with-extras girls under the Walking Street sign. Anyone any idea why no local entrepreneur has opened a massage parlour in Angeles? Surely there would be big money to be made, especially given the number of Korean, Japanese and Indian visitors, who usually make a beeline for the massage parlours in Pattaya.

Parasitius
05-04-15, 14:58
I disagree with this. It paints a picture that the streets are paved in gold in China and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. Compare a stroll down the streets of Cebu with the streets of Chengdu and I saw far prettier girls in Cebu. Average looking Chinese girls are average looking girls. Plus Chinese girls are wrapped in about nine layers because the weather is colder and they smile nowhere near as much. Filipina girls are smiley, playful, flirty, inquisitive and fun to be around, whereas Chinese girls (in fact Chinese people in general) seem to have an inherent distrust of foreigners. And the language barrier is MASSIVE. Unless you speak Mandarin you will get half an hour of silence with a very pretty looking girl. It's great for the ego and the photo collection but there's more to our hobby than that.

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There is nowhere in China even remotely like Angeles. Angeles has thousands of working girls in one small area, so it's no surprise that you'll see lots of average ones. That's the nature of any major sex destination. Pattaya is the same. In China though the girls are usually holed up in flats or saunas, away from prying eyes since the government clampdown, so you'll only really see the creme de la creme, the girls you researched online.

For anyone who is reading who might be tempted to try China, I'd say pay half the money and have twice the fun in Philippines. And there are some lovely girls to be found too if you make the effort.LOL I almost want to argue AGAINST your points just to keep Philippines from getting overcrowded and shut-down all the sooner. (You may say it will never happen, but I thought the same thing about so many places in China that, while they never disappeared, the govt's actions were successful in turning them to crap.).

But, yeah this is totally true. And as far as I'm concerned, the language barrier hasn't a thing in the world to do with it. I divide the world's working girls into two categories. Those who actually like screwing, and those who do it for the money. Seemingly 90% of Filipinas fall in the former category, even if they started in the latter. Chinese working girls don't enjoy it one bit, are prudish about sex in some weird way even when they've been doing it for years, and. Even if they really like you and you do connect, the point of connection will be at the conversational and personal level but it won't advance the intimacy of the sex in the way you get sex from 50+% of all Filipinas you'll encounter. I explored the deepest darkest reaches of China for years and years and years before ever setting foot in the Philippines, reading Chinese language forums to find so many unknown places. The funny thing is, I'm kind of glad I found the Philippines so late because otherwise I wouldn't have even DREAMED of going to the trouble for so much mediocre. I wouldn't have gotten to enjoy the challenge and exploration aspect.

In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones!

Smoothy
05-04-15, 15:20
In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones!When I was still in my 20's, I had a couple of Chinese girls in Shenzhen who were working girls that enjoyed the sex and were quite passionate in bed. But you are right that it's rare to find that. Most of them are passionless fucks. And now that I'm over 40, I never find it in China. It's a shame, because those Chinese girls are damn sexy looking and their skin feels great. Filipinas do seem to love sex, even with an old geezer like me. Filipina chicks have orgasms with me even now, I haven't given a girl in China an orgasm in over 15 years.

Fast Eddie 48
05-04-15, 21:22
PI is no comparison with China. The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick.

I think you nailed it! PI is cheaper and they speak English and that is the main draw for mongers, plus GFE.

I feel your pain when trying to find a non-mother. Not many out there in AC, plus so many of the mongers visiting AC are mother fuckers anyways, that's what keeps the supply so high. LOL

All in all if you got real money and want high quality young women who haven't procreated yet, then China is a better bet by far!To Amjeck.

I been mongering in China and Pi for over 15 yr yes Chinese girl is taller and better quality than filipina but not as GFE, I am Chinese speak good mandarin but China is not than easy if you don't speak Chinese and China because of crack down the last few yr is not a good for mongering anymore and I have play in many place in China remember the village in Shanghai, Sha tsui village in Shenzhen, all the bbs in Changping and bbs all over Guangzhou all have over 1000 girl to pick from the cheap.

Fast eddie 48.

Socker
05-04-15, 22:21
Besides the endless question of whether apples are better than oranges does anyone here have any current Angeles City information? Pics of chics? Bars full, empty? Funny thing that happened on your way to the BJ bar? Roaming street kids? Anything on topic is better these off topic debates.

FreebieFan
05-05-15, 02:00
To Amjeck.

I been mongering in China and Pi for over 15 yr yes Chinese girl is taller and better quality than filipina but not as GFE,

Fast eddie 48.Chinese girls taller Yes.

Quality. Nah nah nah naahhh nahhh nahhhhhhh as in no no no no. Chinese girls hungry for money and quite cold like the entire character of the country. This said after 10 years of living in China.

RumBuddy
05-05-15, 02:25
Chinese girls taller Yes.

Quality. Nah nah nah naahhh nahhh nahhhhhhh as in no no no no. Chinese girls hungry for money and quite cold like the entire character of the countryI couldn't agree more. I was married to 2 Chinese women, recently divorced because she was a cold woman and thought it was ok. I have a Filipina now and she is so affectionate. Everyone changes I think after marriage, but I think I have a keeper. I want to do AC one last time before committing.

FreebieFan
05-05-15, 03:48
.. because the weather is colder and they smile nowhere near as much. Filipina girls are smiley, , whereas Chinese girls (in fact Chinese people in general) seem to have an inherent distrust of foreigners. . .




.I'm just back from a trip to Thailand and my GF and I were commenting EVERY day about how nice it was to see natural happy unforced smiles from the Thai people. Similar to the Philippines. As soon as we were back in China, the scowls start and even a smile from me aimed at a total stranger will elicit the same cold look in reply. I think Chinese in general arent very happy with life and it shows. Other Asian countries, including Indonesia Cambodia all know how to smile and will smile and look at you with a happy expression.

In China, its just hard to get them to look halfway happy. Relax China, lifes not so bad. Of course theres a government that tells you what you can and cannot read, a mother who tries to get her daughter married off endlessly so she won't be embarrassed in front of her neighbours, a bit of pollution to worry about, a hell of a lot of smokers, a country that's madly over crowded and a few others. However happiness is a choice. People, such as the Thais and Filipinos are inherently happy.

Dg8787
05-05-15, 04:01
I spent 2 of 3 weeks in AC. Had 14 different girls in AC. About 8 were mothers. 7 mothers were as tight or tighter than non-mothers. The other mother was still very good.

How did I pick them out? I didn't have to. A couple girls, from different bars whom I did meet before picked them out for me. Most of the nights I had 2 girls in the room with me. One night I had 3 girls. Only one time did we do a 3 some. Most of the girls picked out their friends or cousins working in the same bar to join us.

I went to Cebu and met up with former bg from AC and she brought her cousin who had gave birth 2 months ago. Cousin had extra 5 kilos but unbelievably tight! After a few nights they went home and sent over very shy 19 yo cousin who lost her cherry a few months ago. She was so tight that I couldn't enter mish. After lubing up, I had her slowly CG over me. Took a minute to enter and then we got into a rythem but I could last more than 3 minutes! She was so tight and wet.

Nothing like AC. After a while and if you are nice the girls will refer friends and family to you. Spent almost all my nights sleeping between 2 girls. Nothing like it!

Btw, came back to T3 last night around 10:30pm. T3 was packed. Most flights were delayed so huge crowds waiting. Came outside and loooong taxi line. Resort World has a small kiosk on the curb. The man asked me to sign in on the clip board and wait for the bus. 5 minutes later the bus was there. The driver loaded my 2 bags on board. First stop is Marriotts and second stop is Lexinton. When we arrived at Lexington he asked if I was getting off and if I was checking in to the hotel? I said I just rode the bus to catch a taxi! He then summon the guard to hail me a taxi. The guard had to walk down the block to the street to hail a taxi. I tipped the bus driver P50 and the guard P20 for their kind hospitality. Taxi meter was under P100. I didn't asked for the 10 pesos rebate off the meter. Tipped him P20. Total cost P200. Had a yellow cab from T3 try to charge me P500 before for the same ride, I just gave him 200 and walked away.

Smoothy
05-05-15, 06:03
PI is no comparison with China. The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick.Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.

Ikksman
05-05-15, 07:49
LOL I almost want to argue AGAINST your points just to keep Philippines from getting overcrowded and shut-down all the sooner. (You may say it will never happen, but I thought the same thing about so many places in China that, while they never disappeared, the govt's actions were successful in turning them to crap.).{S N I P}
In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones!Lots of generalising by posters in this thread, but this statement above struck a chord with me.

China used to be a fun place for P4P. But as the country grew richer and richer, the girls' attitudes got worse and worse (bloody princess syndrome)! In comparison, PI has remained a very poor country.

To my mind, it was fun mongering in China (more fun than compared to AC or Manila?). Many of us remember the 3,000-5,000 WGs in one tiny village in Shenzhen city, and 30,000 to 60,000 WGs in saunas, KTV and BBSs in one sub-district of Dongguan city (Flower streets of 500 girls), etc, etc. This was sex tourism with all its excesses (mainly HKers, Taiwanese, SGeans and Malaysians).

But no more! Since the great crackdown of 2014 (which is ongoing), P4P in China is very difficult for business visitors and tourists - with the exception of Shanghai, which for various reasons was spared the excessive crackdowns that occurred elsewhere. China is entering another puritanical period.

One effect of the crackdown will be that more and more Chinese sex tourists will come to PI, far outnumbering all the other Asian sex tourists. I wonder what AC will be like then, particularly considering the attitudes of those newly rich Chinese to other Asians. Actually, I think I know!

Ikksman.

Amjeck
05-05-15, 08:13
Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.Which bar?

Smoothy
05-05-15, 12:06
Which bar?Well now that's a good question. These girls change bars frequently. But she was the star of a bar called The One Eyed Wench. Her name is Elsa. She's semi famous in AC (best boobs in town). At least she was a few years ago.

D Cups
05-05-15, 14:12
Nice one, Smoothy. I hope Elsa is still working when I go there in October.


Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above..

Parasitius
05-05-15, 16:07
Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.Body is banging, from the photo I can't tell for sure if I find her face attractive.

Regardless, one girl does not change the reality. I *personally* get more turned on by the small size and dark skin of Filipinas. And yet, still, I have to admit: with over 5 trips to the Philippines, bar hopping all night to find the hottest girl and sometimes even going home alone, most trips lasting 2 weeks and so on. In 5 trips I have managed to discover a grand total of just 3 8's. Everything else, even if I thought they were really cute, were 7 and below.

Did I get to bang those 8's? The demand was so ridiculous for them that it didn't turn out well. One I tried to bang for 3 consecutive trips, but could never line up the stars. She apparently now has developed a real attitude and isn't worth it, too many years of being pursued by too many men. Doesn't do long time ever. The next one quit bars because she has just a non-stop list of clients calling. She doesn't do overnight. Finally, only thanks to the hard work of my friend, I did get to bang her ONCE. The next trip I again couldn't get a hold of her. The third 8? Totally inexperienced and with complete unrealistic expectations about tips and so on, I was the first guy to ever barfine her. Worst sexual experience of my life. I assume if I went back in a year she'll have learned the ropes and perform much better, and be amazing, but given her hotness, I'm sure she'll be off the market by then.

In China? Jesus. How many KTV and saunas you could go to where you can consistently find several 8's. A lot! (Unfortunately I was earning a Chinese salary the whole time I was there and couldn't indulge except a few times a a year.) Now as far as 9's or 10's I've only seen them in night clubs in Shanghai or so, and they were not working girls, and guarded by a large group of VIP guys.

Smoothy
05-06-15, 10:19
In China? Jesus. How many KTV and saunas you could go to where you can consistently find several 8's. A lot! (Unfortunately I was earning a Chinese salary the whole time I was there and couldn't indulge except a few times a a year.) Now as far as 9's or 10's I've only seen them in night clubs in Shanghai or so, and they were not working girls, and guarded by a large group of VIP guys.Beautiful to look at, but almost without fail they are crap shags. I also find Chinese girls more attractive to look at, but I don't prefer them for mongering over Filipinas, Thai or Indo girls because they are not as good in bed. Chinese girls are also not as fun and you have to watch them to make sure they don't try to steal from you. Mongolian girls however, are normally a great shag! When I'm in Beijing, I'll choose the Mongolian chicks over the Chinese chicks pretty much without fail. We used to go to Passions karaoke at the Sheraton Great Wall hotel often, and the Chinese girls there are very good looking. I believe Passions has been closed down now for a while, but when it was open, those chicks were damn hot. Most likely the hottest girls in all of China, and I believe Passions was the most expensive club in China at the time as well. The girls who worked there drove Ferrari's, BMW's, Mercedes, etc. As the girls would tell me there - "this is a good job working here". LOL. My client would pay for the girls for me, so I always had my choice of chicks there at no charge to me. Some of the most beautiful girls I've ever been with have been from that club. However, that being said, I preferred the cheap Mongolian chicks from Maggies over the Passions club upper class Chinese girls. Those Mongolian chicks can screw! There were times when I took stunning Chinese girls from Passions that I would rate a 9 out of 10 or even close to a 10 where they were charging 500 to 700 USD for an hour in my room and my dick would go soft because they had no passion at all. How can you work at a club called Passions and have no passion? I've had the same thing happen with some stunners in Venezuela. A girl being gorgeous does not guarantee a satisfying experience with that chick.

By the way, that flip chick I posted with the big boobs is also a poor shag. LOL! But on the average, flip chicks are pretty fun and passionate in bed.

Bull Dozer
05-07-15, 04:22
Smoothy is correct in his statement. Fucking a Chinese girl is so mechanical, after fucking about 400 Chinese girls over the past 10 years, it is all about give me the money, & get it done quick I have to go. Not to say the least, I have enjoyed some of them, but most of them are only in for the money with no passion in return. A Brazilian friend of mine once said the reason Chinese girls have no passion or smile is because they don't let that sun hit their body. Sun creates passion, without sun is life is gloomy. I have spoken to many Chinese well educated girls at Canton Fair, their priority is only to make money, 24/7.

So there is no comparison between a Chinese & Filipinas. Beauty comes from inside not from outside. So if you want to eat at Denny's or Applebee's, one cannot compare as they are two different kitchens so they will taste different. I just came back from AC after 18 days & enjoyed myself to the fullest. My problem in AC is how to do time management to keep the flow of the girls going without them clashing into one another. Most of the girls complain, saying -- you have too many girls & I have to tell them they all need my sperm & money so what can I do? This is the life in AC.

BD


Beautiful to look at, but almost without fail they are crap shags. I also find Chinese girls more attractive to look at, but I don't prefer them for mongering over Filipinas, Thai or Indo girls because they are not as good in bed. Chinese girls are also not as fun and you have to watch them to make sure they don't try to steal from you. Mongolian girls however, are normally a great shag! When I'm in Beijing, I'll choose the Mongolian chicks over the Chinese chicks pretty much without fail. We used to go to Passions karaoke at the Sheraton Great Wall hotel often, and the Chinese girls there are very good looking. I believe Passions has been closed down now for a while, but when it was open, those chicks were damn hot. Most likely the hottest girls in all of China, and I believe Passions was the most expensive club in China at the time as well. The girls who worked there drove Ferrari's, BMW's, Mercedes, etc. As the girls would tell me there - "this is a good job working here". LOL. My client would pay for the girls for me, so I always had my choice of chicks there at no charge to me. Some of the most beautiful girls I've ever been with have been from that club. However, that being said, I preferred the cheap Mongolian chicks from Maggies over the Passions club upper class Chinese girls. Those Mongolian chicks can screw! There were times when I took stunning Chinese girls from Passions that I would rate a 9 out of 10 or even close to a 10 where they were charging 500 to 700 USD for an hour in my room and my dick would go soft because they had no passion at all. How can you work at a club called Passions and have no passion? I've had the same thing happen with some stunners in Venezuela. A girl being gorgeous does not guarantee a satisfying experience with that chick.

By the way, that flip chick I posted with the big boobs is also a poor shag. LOL! But on the average, flip chicks are pretty fun and passionate in bed.

Lefeu
05-07-15, 13:42
A Brazilian friend of mine once said the reason Chinese girls have no passion or smile is because they don't let that sun hit their body.BDI agree that Brazilian chicks are passionate and love the sun, but this explanation is flawed. Thai girls don't like exposure to the sun, yet they are quite passionate. The same can be said about Filipnas, and many other Asian ethnicities. I am in agreement about Chinese girls. I stopped seeing them years ago. And never quite understood Asian women dislike of the sun. I know it's cultural, but they are missing on something great.

Mr Enternational
05-07-15, 18:20
And never quite understood Asian women dislike of the sun. I know it's cultural, but they are missing on something great.What do you not understand? They want to be white, but the sun makes you darker.

Smoothy
05-08-15, 15:37
yes they can be load and bushy but for the latter I allways carry a razor around so that can easily be taken care of.Not only their pussies, but their arm pits. A razor would take care of that if they allow it. I'm not sure how to take care of their garlic breath though. That seems to overpower listerine.

ForceSteeler
05-09-15, 15:44
Hey guys,

I have been searching through this forum. Can you guys give me any updates on Angeles City. Last Time I was there was April 2014. Any Updates? Are there crackdowns? Can you still bar fine.

Slippery
05-09-15, 19:20
Hey guys,

I have been searching through this forum. Can you guys give me any updates on Angeles City. Last Time I was there was April 2014. Any Updates? Are there crackdowns? Can you still bar fine.Your search wasn't even cursory. No and yes. Next, you'll ask where the best looking girls can be found.

Sxxxx
05-10-15, 01:14
Hey guys,

I have been searching through this forum. Can you guys give me any updates on Angeles City. Last Time I was there was April 2014. Any Updates? Are there crackdowns? Can you still bar fine.This forum will tell you things are much the same. If anything, the bar raids are down on what they were year or so ago, less bar raids. Updates? Bars change ownership, change names, girls get sponsored, wander off, new ones arrive and take their place. Same, same.

Dg8787
05-10-15, 05:07
Hey guys,

I have been searching through this forum. Can you guys give me any updates on Angeles City. Last Time I was there was April 2014. Any Updates? Are there crackdowns? Can you still bar fine.Lately the forum is just comparing China pussy to Pinay pussy along with a cost / benefit analysis. I don't believe there has been any raids to really speak about or at least to be concerned about. Probably easier to bar fine now than last April.

I just got back from AC and had a great time. I don't drink or smoke so I really don't like to spend a lot of time in the bars, just about 30 minutes or less, long enough to get my shopping done. This time I didn't have to do my own shopping, the girls picked out their friends for me.

Good luck and don't be a Cheap Charlie!

BeachBoy46
05-10-15, 05:45
What do you not understand? They want to be white, but the sun makes you darker.Just back from 14 days in Angeles, my first trip to Phils. My mates called me a "cherry boy". Must agree with the above. Many of my ladies had a great time in the hotel pool but were paranoid about being in the sun. Always kept to any shade that was available in the pool and wrapped in a towel when not swimming. They would say dark bad white good.

Also I see it written in many posts about the tardiness and complete disregard of meeting times with these girls. Without exception, they would be 1-2 hrs late for any arrangement: a few examples.

1. Doing washing, coming now.

2. Meet my cousin, coming now.

3 Clinic day. Leaving now.

4. And the Pinay special. "where are you". WTF I'm at my hotel still, where we arranged to meet 2 fucking hours ago. LOL.

I enjoyed Angeles, had a blast actually. Liked it better than Vietnam, Cambodia, and even Pattaya. Girls were so happy and friendly, always putting out just as they had promised at the bar. Hrmm. Tip maybe. Also not one ever left until after breakfast / lunch. On three occasions they demanded we go back after lunch to fuck again before they left. I soon found that treating them with respect, listening to their rather depressing stories of province life, poverty, good catholic parents with 13 children. Fuck. Plus the daughters kids all with mum, seemed to make them really relaxed and the experience was so much better. In 14 days, managed 9 girls from different bars, whilst one stayed for 4 days. A total of 10. Certainly not near a record, but ok for a cherry boy.

I will write some reports on my experiences, but as the saying goes. "its more fun in the Philippines".

X Man
05-10-15, 09:07
Thanks for the report. Your cherry boy exploits and adventures could use some more details, if you have the time to write some more. My first trip was 1980 / Marcos law / had to be off the streets at midnight.


Just back from 14 days in Angeles, my first trip to Phils. My mates called me a "cherry boy". SNIP SNIP

I will write some reports on my experiences, but as the saying goes. "its more fun in the Philippines".

WestCoast1
05-10-15, 16:17
BB: Good early report. Other newbs take note of several things: 1. His first phils field report is descriptive regarding girly behavior, and 2. He didn't have to jump on the phils threads to ask for help before visiting -- he seems to have been able to garner his info from RTTF.


I enjoyed Angeles, had a blast actually. Liked it better than Vietnam, Cambodia, and even Pattaya. Girls were so happy and friendly, always putting out just as they had promised at the bar. Hrmm. Tip maybe. Also not one ever left until after breakfast / lunch. On three occasions they demanded we go back after lunch to fuck again before they left.I think recently a poster compared AC to China, setting off an interesting comparison of value, GF-liness, etc. BB has provided a nearly opposite opinion of AC. The diversity of opinion is what makes ISG necessary RTTF for newbs.


I soon found that treating them with respect, listening to their rather depressing stories of province life, poverty, good catholic parents with 13 children. Fuck. Plus the daughters kids all with mum, seemed to make them really relaxed and the experience was so much better.This is one of my tricks-of-the-trade. I actively engage them in discussion of their family. They can talk forever parents, brothers and sisters. I also briefly share about my family. For *whatever* reason, this tends to endear pinay to warming up to me in a GF-ly way. They are much more likely to return at a later date in their off-bar time, and much more likely to bring friends who want to party with me. I find that when we discuss their financial difficulties, that this is a win-win for me also (just lending a sympathetic ear). You don't have to spend a lot of time with this stuff, just 10 minutes. The girl is going to spend the next 10-15 hours with me; spending a bit of time discussing her family is a good investment. I don't discuss these things inside the bar, usually after the pop.


In 14 days, managed 9 girls from different bars, whilst one stayed for 4 days. A total of 10. Certainly not near a record, but ok for a cherry boy.It doesn't have to be a record. Its great from any viewpoint.

The OP who brought up the China / AC comparison. Did he ever respond back to that discussion? How does one compare hotter girls who rent out by the hour, with more average-looking girls who stay and stay for days?

ConquerorVal
05-10-15, 19:54
Still have not completed my trip report from AC and Pattaya back in February, but I would like to mention that AC is my favourite for some of the reasons mentioned and some of my own. I had a bit of different experience with the girls, but all were positive. The only negative was my own behaviour. Already booked and paid for my flights to AC at the end of August and next February. Can't wait.

BeachBoy46
05-11-15, 01:50
Thanks for the report. Your cherry boy exploits and adventures could use some more details, if you have the time to write some more. My first trip was 1980 / Marcos law / had to be off the streets at midnight.Thanks for your comments on my first installment. Yes I agree that more detail should be forthcoming and indeed it will. However I have a severe handicap when it comes to this posting business. I cannot type, a one finger man so I have to keep it reasonably short as Jackson has logged me out a few times and I have lost everything. LOL. Stay tuned as they say. BB.

BeachBoy46
05-11-15, 02:15
BB: Good early report. Other newbs take note of several things: 1. His first phils field report is descriptive regarding girly behavior, and 2. He didn't have to jump on the phils threads to ask for help before visiting -- he seems to have been able to garner his info from RTTF.

I think recently a poster compared AC to China, setting off an interesting comparison of value, GF-liness, etc. BB has provided a nearly opposite opinion of AC. The diversity of opinion is what makes ISG necessary RTTF for newbs.

This is one of my tricks-of-the-trade. I actively engage them in discussion of their family. They can talk forever parents, brothers and sisters. I also briefly share about my family. For *whatever* reason, this tends to endear pinay to warming up to me in a GF-ly way. They are much more likely to return at a later date in their off-bar time, and much more likely to bring friends who want to party with me. I find that when we discuss their financial difficulties, that this is a win-win for me also (just lending a sympathetic ear). You don't have to spend a lot of time with this stuff, just 10 minutes. The girl is going to spend the next 10-15 hours with me; spending a bit of time discussing her family is a good investment. I don't discuss these things inside the bar, usually after the pop.

It doesn't have to be a record. Its great from any viewpoint.

The OP who brought up the China / AC comparison. Did he ever respond back to that discussion? How does one compare hotter girls who rent out by the hour, with more average-looking girls who stay and stay for days?WC, thanks for your generous comments on my first AC report. I see other senior members call you "Westie" but I won't take such liberties until I earn my AC stripes.

Yes I studied the forum before my trip and the information was fantastic. In fact when I walked out of The orchid inn and ordered an SML at Phillies about 30 minutes after my arrival, I felt instantly comfortable seeing all the places talked about here. The many friendly expat bar managers and drinkers made me instantly welcome. After a few beers and a meal, I walked around for about 1 HR getting my bearings, checking out the bars and about 11 pm settled into Raphsody. Really liked the girls here in their red uniforms. After some LDs and a drink for Mamasan she directed me to what I would say was 8-9 IMO 21 yo. Bar fine only2000 because mamasan now my newest best friend. LOL. More details later but she was still there having Brekky / lunch at 1 pm, then a swim then back for another go. Had to go home for fresh clothes but wanted to call back in on her way to work. Had to decline as I had a drinking appointment. Top performer and a suitable reward was given but definately not asked for. Went back for another try on three occasions but she was already BFd.

Sorry, a bit long winded story but thanks again for your warm welcome to AC. BB.

WestCoast1
05-11-15, 03:09
WC, thanks for your generous comments on my first AC report. I see other senior members call you "Westie" but I won't take such liberties until I earn my AC stripes.You can call me almost anything you want (except late).


More details later but she was still there having Brekky / lunch at 1 pm, then a swim then back for another go. SNIP

Sorry, a bit long winded story but thanks again for your warm welcome to AC. BB.Another good report. There is no such thing as long winded when describing bars, hotels, or girls being girl-friendly.

Ikksman
05-11-15, 05:10
{S N I P}I cannot type, a one finger man so I have to keep it reasonably short as Jackson has logged me out a few times and I have lost everything. LOL. Stay tuned as they say. BB.This is a common problem when in an area with poor bandwidth etc. I am a reasonable typist, but I suffer the same problem.

I always create my post using a word editor, and then cut and paste to ISG. Saves a lot of frustration.

Enjoyed your report!

Ikks

SteelBaton
05-11-15, 05:14
The OP who brought up the China / AC comparison. Did he ever respond back to that discussion? How does one compare hotter girls who rent out by the hour, with more average-looking girls who stay and stay for days?Hey Westie. I am just checking back in now and am surprised by the volume of the responses to my AC vs China questions, but not by the content. Some are looking for lovers and some are just looking for pussy. And if you are all about the GFE then AC is the place to be. If you are all about the young physical beauty of the cnut, China is the place to hunt.

I think that is pretty incontrovertible that the girls from the mainland working in Hong Kong and the mainland girls working in Shenzhen are some of the most beautiful Asian working girls on the continent.

Why? Well shit, I just looked it up: with a population of 1. 3 billion there 90 million. NINETY MILLION Chinese females in the demographic group of 15 to 24 years old. (The PI is 10 million and Thailand is 5 million) So the possible supply of beautiful young girls is immense 10 x to 20 x greater in China. And, China is still relatively poor so there are millions and millions of beautiful young girls looking to get ahead and they come to Guangdong, Hong Kong, Shanghai and BJ looking to make money. In HK alone on any given day there are literally 250+ girls with semi-nude pictures advertising under the "honey girl" section of the 141 site (the "walk-up girls" are a second class group of local HK usually older women) . The visual beauty of 90% of these put to shame 95% of the girls I saw in AC.

But, I totally agree that some can be starfish fucks and building a relationship with them isn't easy, but I've done it a few times and I have had lots of girls that are pretty engaged in the sex.

AC and the PI in general seem to have lots and lots more GFE available from less attractive women, mostly mothers between 25 and 40 years old.

Many members on this forum really enjoy having a multi-day girl-friend-experience even if the girl is more of a 29 year old mother of 3. Some of you guys can go to AC and Pattaya for weeks enjoying the relationship and the sex with the ladies. On the other hand I never have more than a few days to go mongering usually fitting it in between business meetings. I have young kids and an active family life and therefore can't explain hanging out in AC for a week shagging women. Also, I hate having to spend hours and hours in bars searching for the diamond in the rough.

In HK and China it's pretty much like on-line clothes shopping: you look at some photos, meet some possible girls (all of whom what your money) and pick the best looking one that doesn't scowl when she looks at you. It's totally transactional and I'm ok with that. I'm not looking for a relationship, I am looking to have a beautiful woman suck my cock and get herself well fucked. If she's into it and loves me, well that's nice but it's not my primary or secondary motivation. I already have a wife. Maybe later in life a fun, loving temporary relationship with a prostitute will be of interest but not currently. I find the girls pretty boring after the sex.

So its horses for courses I'd say and I'll be coming back to AC when I've got more time to appreciate all the GFE that it offers. For now, 90 minutes of fucking the hottest young girls I can find is good for me. If you know of a place where there are as many young, hot and available girls as Hong Kong / China and they love foreign men making them cum. Let me know! But, it's not AC in my opinion.

SteelBaton
05-11-15, 06:30
I expect some will disagree with me about the abundance of beautiful Chinese women vs Pinays and other Asian women, so here are a few photos of recent Chinese girls in my visits in Hong Kong and Guangdong. Some are my photos, some from the girls themselves, (so some photo shopping) but these are girls I met. They all exist and are 2 SOG for an hour to an hour and a half US$120-$200. But don't expect them to fall in love with you or even pretend to, but they all carefully undressed me, folded my pants, showered with me, kneeled between my legs to suck my cock, gasped and moaned through a long proper fucking and gave me a smile and hug on the way out the door. Some days that's enough for me.

Switched
05-11-15, 08:13
so here are a few photos of recent Chinese girls in my visits in Hong Kong and Guangdong. Just when you thought it was over and we were getting back on theme.

Ikksman
05-11-15, 08:44
{S N I P}they all carefully undressed me, folded my pants, showered with me, kneeled between my legs to suck my cock, gasped and moaned through a long proper fucking and gave me a smile and hug on the way out the door. Some days that's enough for me.Yeah, but did they give BBBJSOF?

Ikks

Sxxxx
05-11-15, 09:25
Just when you thought it was over and we were getting back on theme.I agree pathetic. China thread for that stuff, not Angeles thread.

Bull Dozer
05-12-15, 03:24
For $200 Filipina would suck you dry for a week not just 1.5 Hours.


I expect some will disagree with me about the abundance of beautiful Chinese women vs Pinays and other Asian women, so here are a few photos of recent Chinese girls in my visits in Hong Kong and Guangdong. Some are my photos, some from the girls themselves, (so some photo shopping) but these are girls I met. They all exist and are 2 SOG for an hour to an hour and a half US$120-$200. But don't expect them to fall in love with you or even pretend to, but they all carefully undressed me, folded my pants, showered with me, kneeled between my legs to suck my cock, gasped and moaned through a long proper fucking and gave me a smile and hug on the way out the door. Some days that's enough for me.

BeachBoy46
05-12-15, 03:59
Another good report. There is no such thing as long winded when describing bars, hotels, or girls being girl-friendly.Thanks for the encouragement. After my first night lady departed, I headed for Phillies for a roadside seat and a few cold SMLs Great spot to take in the AC atmosphere. The ladyboys, viagara sellers, street hawkers, beggars little kids about 5 flogging little trinkets, and last but certainly not least, the smokin hot parade of babes that walk slowly past, giving that sexy smile. Fuck, some of them were beautiful. Then back to the room for a couple of hours nap, shower, and back into it about 10 pm.

Headed straight to Rapshody to BF my previous girl, but as explained earlier, she was already taken. She gave me a big smile whilst being mauled by a Korean with arms like a fucking octopus. She looked pissed off but BF already paid.

On a funny note, when I walked in the dancers all started giggling and pointing at me and whispering. I had to check that mu fly was done up or my dinner spilled all over myself. All looked goodand mamasan comes over to me. I asked her why girls are giggling. She says girl last night tell them you very strong aussie boy;;number one. Aw shucks, maybe she exaggerate, just normal. Anyhow we had a good laugh and a top night. BFd nice slim 26 yo, two kids, and mummy stomach, but hot as a stove. Had to leave 10 am for compulsory clinic test. Told me up front. No worries here. So 2 days down and all good. Can this fantasy last? More to come BB.

BeachBoy46
05-12-15, 04:09
Another good report. There is no such thing as long winded when describing bars, hotels, or girls being girl-friendly.Thanks for the encouragement. After my first night lady departed, I headed for Phillies for a roadside seat and a few cold SMLs Great spot to take in the AC atmosphere. The ladyboys, viagara sellers, street hawkers, beggars little kids about 5 flogging little trinkets, and last but certainly not least, the smokin hot parade of babes that walk slowly past, giving that sexy smile. Fuck, some of them were beautiful. Then back to the room for a couple of hours nap, shower, and back into it about 10 pm.

Headed straight to Rapshody to BF my previous girl, but as explained earlier, she was already taken. She gave me a big smile whilst being mauled by a Korean with arms like a fucking octopus. She looked pissed off but BF already paid.

On a funny note, when I walked in the dancers all started giggling and pointing at me and whispering. I had to check that mu fly was done up or my dinner spilled all over myself. All looked goodand mamasan comes over to me. I asked her why girls are giggling. She says girl last night tell them you very strong aussie boy;;number one. Aw shucks, maybe she exaggerate, just normal. Anyhow we had a good laugh and a top night. BFd nice slim 26 yo, two kids, and mummy stomach, but hot as a stove. Had to leave 10 am for compulsory clinic test. Told me up front. No worries here. So 2 days down and all good. Can this fantasy last? More to come BB.

BeachBoy46
05-12-15, 06:52
Woops Last post sent twice. Not intended, sorry Jackson!!

As my lady left early for the clinic, I decided to venture a bit further out but a not too far I came across Ponytails. It was about 4 pm and open. As I have read some info on here about this place, Iwent in expecting it to be quiet. Wow, was I wrong, it was humming. About 25 girls on stage and another 30 or so "mixing"with the customers. Girls were generally pretty hot and some of the dan cing was fucking awesome. I saw a slim girl called Yame, they all have name tags here, dancing and dry rooting another 8. This was real dirty dancing. No one was putting Baby in the corner here! LOL. Also the girls "mixing" were right into it, bras up, hands down panties, lap dancing etc. My tongue was literally hanging out. Also there are girls in massage uniforms trying to drum up business. They are 5-6 but stick to you--hard to shake off. Some dude rang the bell and lucky me, one of the dancers gave me her shot, said she already had 5 today, could not take another. All in all, good fun bar. Had thoughts of going back to try for Yame later, but did not happen. Heading back, next stop Insomnia. Did not fancy this place, girls doing choreographed rouitnes. Dull. The girls and waitresses were friendly but 1 drink and out.

Getting late so back to hotel for a shower, rest and nourishment. The night lay ahead.

BeachBoy46
05-12-15, 07:21
Back on Walking St about 10 pm given a flyer by a very cute 20 yo (I asked her) for the Bunny Ranch, I think right behind paradise beer garden. Said she would be in there later. Every 2nd drink free and free drink with every ladydrink. Place pretty quiet but ok lineup. However, my first bad experience. Aggressive waitresses. Buy me a drink, buy these girls a drink, don't forget my tip. On and on it went. I was really waiting for the 20 yo and having a quiet beer. In the end it was easier to leave and certainly no tip. Well she yelled at me thanks big spender, fuck her and her bar.

Passed Rhapsody and went to Geckos. Liked this place. Had a thing going hard with 2 honeys in the far back corner. Difficult choice picked the young one with big tits and no kids. 2500 BF. All ok, but she just did not have the GF feel but her rock hard body made up for it. There is much to say for a set of 21 yo natural tits buried in your face forcing you to gasp for air.

Breakfast at 11 am and let her go. Sensed she had other things on her mind.

Went for a foot scrub and foot massage. They really had their work cut out with my hard old feet, but they scrubbed and oiled and massaged for over an hour. The cost 200 p. AUD $6. 80. Outrageous! Left a nice tip. Now a couple of beers plus an afternoon nap. New bars await tonight. BB.

Red Dogger
05-12-15, 08:29
In Pattaya I had a problem that the smaller and slimmer girls were hurt quite a bit by my penis (and I much like the smaller and slimmer girls). How do Filipino girls compare?

BrainDrain
05-12-15, 09:32
Went for a foot scrub and foot massage. They really had their work cut out with my hard old feet, but they scrubbed and oiled and massaged for over an hour. The cost 200 p. AUD $6. 80. Outrageous! Left a nice tip. Now a couple of beers plus an afternoon nap. New bars await tonight. BB.Be sure to keep doing those currency calculations when you think things look expensive. What great value. Like the odd thought I have were I think P2500 is expensive for an allnight BF, then I compare it to home here in Australia and remember I pay that much for a 30 minute RnT.

X Man
05-12-15, 13:58
It's a bit hard to answer your question since none of us have had to root around with your tool. Please take some pictures and measurements and send the info to DragonSlayer. He's a big guy and has made reference to his trouser anaconda / his t-rex of todgers. Hopefully he can give you some kind of answer. Or maybe it's your technique. Are you sure you were in the correct orifice?

I also like itty bitty titties, but since I have an itty bitty peenie, I can't help you. I often get questions like, "is it in yet?", "did you fall asleep?", "sir, can you put a few fingers in to speed things up?".


In Pattaya I had a problem that the smaller and slimmer girls were hurt quite a bit by my penis (and I much like the smaller and slimmer girls). How do Filipino girls compare?

D Cups
05-12-15, 14:14
They are exactly the same only different!


In Pattaya I had a problem that the smaller and slimmer girls were hurt quite a bit by my penis (and I much like the smaller and slimmer girls). How do Filipino girls compare?.

Fast Eddie 48
05-12-15, 18:59
They are exactly the same only different!

.To the Cup.

Not the same Filipino girl by average have the Tightest pussy in the world most of them is so tight I have a hard time getting inside and I am not big just average, I have many girls from other country girl here always give me a good work out here so what are you waiting pick your bag and get over here.

Fast eddie 48.

D Cups
05-12-15, 19:31
Ya, it's true, Eddie. I go there and Bali in October; DR next month. Get the digits of any big boobs if you see them for me. Thanks!


To the Cup.

Not the same Filipino girl by average have the Tightest pussy in the world most of them is so tight I have a hard time getting inside and I am not big just average, I have many girls from other country girl here always give me a good work out here so what are you waiting pick your bag and get over here.

Fast eddie 48..

QuackUp
05-13-15, 04:16
Usually when I head out to a new destination, I reach out to senior members, but after reading the many post, I didn't think it would be necessary for A / see. I was right, so I just want to say thanks to all the contributors.

I flew in from Hong Kong and arrived around noon. Immigration was a breeze and my driver from the Queens Hotel was there waiting for me. When I got to the hotel my room wasn't ready but notice the mall wasn't to far away. So I told them I would have lunch at the mall and then come back. While waking to the mall, I couldn't believe how hot and humid it was. Hong Kong was hot and humid, but this was much worst. There's a guard checking bags when entering the mall, but maybe because I was a tourist, he never checked my backpack.

As I was riding the escalator down, I noticed a chick in what looked like a white uniform, going up. She was just smiling at me so I smiled back and waved at her. Too bad we were going in opposite directions. When I got to the bottom of the escalator, I looked up, but she was gone. I'am liking this city already. There are many restaurants in this mall but I choose a place called Bon Chon. It's a Korean wings place. The food was very good and the wings weren't like the Korean wings places back in L. A. The wing places in L. A. Even if you ask for mild, it's still spicy hot. These wings weren't hot at all and very tasty. Got a side of rice with it and I was good to go. In fact, because of the mixture of this meal and the heat, tat was the only meal I had that day.

Walking back to the hotel, I started to feel sluggish and I was walking a little slower than usual. I get to my room, which is nice, and the plan was to freshen up, then go to the perimeter bars. Take an early girl, then go to Fields later at night and get a second one. Well, I think it was the heat and humidity that got to me. I ended up taking a nap instead. Perimeter bars will have to wait.

I get up around 16:30, shower and feel a little better so I was out the door by 17:00. The first bar I enter, none other than the bar Sir L wrote about in his awesome reports, The Road House. It just happens to be very close to the Queens hotel. Had a drink but none of the girls caught my eye. I think it was too early. After that, I must have visited at least 6-8 other bars. Unlike Sir L, I couldn't keep track of the names of the bars I went into. Almost forgot, my trip to the P. I. Consisted of one night in A / see, three nights in Subic's Bay, then one final night in A / see.

It's funny, when I went into The Road house, the price of my soda water was $70. Each bar after that, went higher and higher until I reached my last spot, Atlantis. My drink there cost $150. All the other bars had at least one girl I would do, but most of the time, they were already talking with someone else. I was trying to find that diamond in the rough. No go.

At about 19:15 I headed into Atlantis. What a difference in looks atmosphere. After going to a lot of the smaller bars, Atlantis was like a whole different ball game. More girls, more room and more lively. I see a cute girl, so ask mama san to bring her over. I buy her a drink (150), and had a good time talking with her. I asked her how much to leave the bar and she said $3000. I don't drink so while talking with her, I asked her if she likes movies, which she did. Since earlier in the mall I notice there was a movie theater there, I asked her if she would like to see a movie with me. She said yes, so I gave her the money and she went to go change.

Outside the club, I asked her if she wanted to trike or walk to the mall. She said let's walk. My kind of girl. While walking to the mall, she holds my hand like BF and GF. I told her she could pick the movie. She picked the Avengers. I was glad because I had seen most of the other movies. It was in 3 the and for the two of us, it came to $900. We had roughly an hour to kill, so I asked if she was hungry. She said not really so we went to go get ice cream instead. Over ice cream we talked and had a good time. All I'am thinking about now, if she is this good now, wait until we get back to the hotel. She tell's me she never seen a movie in 3 the before. Okay, more brownie points for me. The movie startedat 21:15, but we didn't get out of there until almost midnight. What a long movie.

We walk back to the hotel and enter my room. She asked to take a shower. Ladies first. Then I shower. We start making out and I'am thinking everything is good. I head south and DATY on her. She sounds like she is loving it. I'am now thinking, okay your turn to BBBJ on me. Anyways, she kind of stops everything and says she doesn't do BBBJ or any kind of BJ. Then she tells me she likes me so she would give it a try. She barely licks my shaft and says I can't do it. She seems a bit embarrassed and apologies. What can you do. I go with the flow and head for the main event.

I go in mish. She is tight and I'am not big at all. When I get fully inserted, her face seems to be in pain. I asked her if she is okay or if I should pull out. She said it's okay but everytime I thrust forward her face would grimace. Again, I asked if she was okay and she said yes no problem. In the back of my mind I'am really confused. Since she said to continue, I did and tried to finish off as fast as I could. The deed was covered.

So I finish and wipe off, she goes to shower. She got out and in I went. I finish my shower and notice she has her clothes on but is under the covers. I get into bed and we talk a little bit and was about to say good night, when she asked if she could leave. I was a little mad that the first chick I had in A / see was a runner, but on the other hand, I was relieved. I'am more of a s / t guy. So without any hesitation, I said no problem. As I walk her to the door, she asked for some transport money. I gave her $100, I know she was expecting more, but she's the one leaving early.

After she left, reception called to make sure all is good before letting her leave. I told reception, everything is good. I do like this security measure at the hotel. Although I was a little mad when she asked to leave, we left Atlantis around 20:10 and she left around 02:00, so we did spend quite a bit of time with one another. All I can say is that outside the bedroom, this girl was great, GFE to the max. Inside the bedroom, whole different ballgame. By the way, her name is Angel, 19 years old and very cute.

So my first day in A / see, a tossup. Definitely different than anything I have encounter with a p4 p. Next, off to Subic Bay and the return to A / see in 4 days.

BeachBoy46
05-13-15, 05:43
Whilst having a quiet one in the front bar of the Orchid Inn I noticed this beautiful young slim hottie walking down Raymond. Watched her go into Prince of Wales Bar. Decided to check it out after my rest. Later headed there ,5 girls sitting outside calling me but not my hottie. Walked in and there she was sitting all alone in a corner. Said she does not like outside. Man, she was hot, dark skin, very slim, and great tits. They looked so good in her skin tight white outfit, I knew my tongue would soon explore them. She explained ST 2 hrs P800 or when you cum. LT 12 hrs P1600 unlimited pops. She was so young looking I asked for ID, she produced a card which said she was 19,turning 20 in June. Not convinced, called over Mamasan who said, no young here, all ok, do not worry. Still had a worry knot in my stomach, she did not look 17 even. Let it go and it is my only regret of my trip. She was the hottest I saw in 2 weeks but my instincts prevailed. Hrmm those beautiful tits!

After studying Sir Lancelots exploits, I headed for Angel Witch / Roadies which have a joining door. The girls dance in each bar. Asked for Mar. And was told not working. In roadies asked for Mel. Mamasan said she not come in very often. Never know when she will turn up, not here tonight. A recent post by Lance probably explains it all, hence, I mention no names.

Over the next six nights BFd 5 girls (one night of rest I was stuffed) from Angel Witch, Roadies, Geckos, Q Bar and La Bamba. Results were varied, some mummies but all up for GF, BBBJ, and as much sex as I could manage. No complaints here. All very nice friendly girls.

So 9 nights,8 girls and 1 rest day. 4 nights to go and how different they would turn out. One 21 yo stayed with me for the rest of my time and my experience will be hard to forget. More later BB.

EstebanFine
05-13-15, 09:59
Sometimes my sexual taste goes in the more bi direction. I still have the fantasy to watch a cute couple live and maybe go into action with them.

Angeles is a good place to find beautiful girls. My experience is really not so broad, but the first time I was there I found it quite exciting.

Now my question: Does anybody have clues or even experience in finding a couple?

Thanks,

Esteban

BeachBoy46
05-14-15, 02:07
Four nights left, so spent the afternoon at the pool, building up for the finals.

As an aside, it has probably been noticed that I have not used names, or photos. The truth is partly because I cannot remember most of them and secondly I am reporting generally on a first timer and not personalities. A recent post by respected contributor, Sir Lancelot, in the chit chat section, has revealed a sad downside to names being given.

Walking along Fields about 7 pm, I was overtaken by a girl with the best legs and body. Light brown skin and an arse to die for. If she is going to a bar, then so am I. Sure enough she goes in with me in hot pursuit. However she disappears out the back. I buy a drink and despite pestering by the waitresses, I patiently wait for her to show She comes out with the second dance group and her tits were fantastic, beautiful natural see cup (only a guess at this point). Her body a 8-9 at least BUT, her face was not pretty really, maybe a 6,with the ever present pinay teeth problem. But I was hooked and she realised it, giving me sweet smiles etc. Asked mamasan, said she new girl, only 1 month. Yea yea, but it looked possible. Bought her a drink and instantly felt great affection for this lady. 21,looked 18,read all her ids strapped to her waist,21 on licence.

Would she like to go out. Yes please. Out by 830,phillies for drinks and food and back at hotel by 1030. She was so sweet and shy, told me about her village, no electricity, just generator 3 hours a day, no water, only tank no oven for cooking only open fire. She eldest daughter and has to make money for family. There were no tears from her parents when she left, just a word from her father "be careful". She cried constantly for the 26 hours it took by bus to reach AC. Now lives with 3 other girls in bedroom with 4 single beds and no other furniture. Other girls in house, one shower down hall. I know I know we have heard it all before, but my gut told me otherwise. Her eyes were full of tears so I suggested we go for a swim. She did not own a swimming costume, so we just sat by the pool for a few hours as her life story unfolded. I had better send this before it gets lost. Back soon.

BeachBoy46
05-14-15, 03:00
Continuing on We returned to the room where she took a shower. What followed was mind blowing GFE night, no PSE in sight just the sweetest loving girl possible. I had BFed her that night and next morning she said it was her day off Would it be OK is she stayed. Yes please. Had to go for clinic appt and pick up clothes but would be straight back. As usual straight back took 3 hours plus but return she did. We walked to the Mall and I bought her a Bikini. She did not ask and seemed embarassed. I also put 500 P on her phone. Why is it that these Pinays never have fucking load. (called phone credit in Aus). Back for a swim to christen the bikini. Man what a sight. This was all supplemented by hot bed times. After a great afternoon I took her to a salon where she had a manicure, prdicure and haircut and shampoo. As we walked along fields, she said with a tear that she had never had that done before. Called in sick for the next two nights so my trip ended with a fournighter I will never forget. She said she loved me because I felt like family. I also bought her a watch and earrings. 21 and never owned a watch? In four days she never mentioned money once. In fact I even sent her to change $200 AUD for me. Returned faithfully with the P6850. What a honey. When it was time for me to go, many tears were shed, and I slipped P8000 into her bag without her knowing. Texted her immediately to tell her it was there. Equivalent of 3 BFs. It is worth repeating again, in 4 days she never asked for a thing except kind words and a shoulder to lean on. The gifts etc did not amount to much money wise but was worth a million just to see the look of happiness on the sweet girls face. She texts me every day to let me know she is ok. No sick relatives yet LOL. Fourteen great days and nights, and I am no longer a Cherry Boy. Like the saying goes "its more fun in the Philippines" BB.

Dg8787
05-14-15, 03:24
Continuing on We returned to the room where she took a shower. What followed was mind blowing GFE night, no PSE in sight just the sweetest loving girl possible. I had BFed her that night and next morning she said it was her day off Would it be OK is she stayed. Yes please. Had to go for clinic appt and pick up clothes but would be straight back. As usual straight back took 3 hours plus but return she did. We walked to the Mall and I bought her a Bikini. She did not ask and seemed embarassed. I also put 500 P on her phone. Why is it that these Pinays never have fucking load. (called phone credit in Aus). Back for a swim to christen the bikini. Man what a sight. This was all supplemented by hot bed times. After a great afternoon I took her to a salon where she had a manicure, prdicure and haircut and shampoo. As we walked along fields, she said with a tear that she had never had that done before. Called in sick for the next two nights so my trip ended with a fournighter I will never forget. She said she loved me because I felt like family. I also bought her a watch and earrings. 21 and never owned a watch? In four days she never mentioned money once. In fact I even sent her to change $200 AUD for me. Returned faithfully with the P6850. What a honey. When it was time for me to go, many tears were shed, and I slipped P8000 into her bag without her knowing. Texted her immediately to tell her it was there. Equivalent of 3 BFs. It is worth repeating again, in 4 days she never asked for a thing except kind words and a shoulder to lean on. The gifts etc did not amount to much money wise but was worth a million just to see the look of happiness on the sweet girls face. She texts me every day to let me know she is ok. No sick relatives yet LOL. Fourteen great days and nights, and I am no longer a Cherry Boy. Like the saying goes "its more fun in the Philippines" BB.Great way to end the AC visit. I applaud your nice treatment of this girl before the cheap charlies start cheeping in. Most of these girls are very honest. I have sent them to change hundreds of $US before and always the exact count. BTW, I have sent many girls to get mani, pedi, hot oil treatment shampoos and hair trims. It just brings out their beauty even more. Actually I just love running my hands thru their soft thick hair while sexing them up. Great reports.

BeachBoy46
05-14-15, 04:08
Being back from Angeles for a couple of weeks and writing about my adventures I find myself reflecting on life as it affects me and the rotten hand it deals to others.

I have mongered everywhere in SEA except China, Japan and Korea. I would say my two best places and also most sobering are Angeles and Phnom Penh. The experiences were very similar. Zero infrastructure, poverty and young girls forced to work the bars for family reasons. I'm not suggesting trafficking, just necessity. The Khmer girls were beautiful but shy, whilst the Angeles girls are a happy, bubbly lot who seem to have fun. Some posters on here have noted that 'don't lose sight of the fact that it is prostitution. Going with men for money is prostitution, like it or not" Well it may be so but it did not feel like it to me. No hard, tough as nails pros where I went, just young honeys trying to have fun whilst making the best if a difficult situation.

As I sit back in my comfortable home in Aus. ,with all the comforts of western society, free hospital care free medical care, subsided medicines, government pension for life subsidised utilities, subsided public transport, I feel great empathy for these people I have met who have been dealt such rotten hands in life. I have seen these girls spoken to and treated with great disrespect and it saddens me. If my respect sometimes leads me to part with more than the norm, I think of the above and feel happy I could help.

Lastly let me thank all the contributors to this forum. I read all posts no matter which country I am going. A special mention to Sir Lancelot for his recent incredible contributions and to West Coast for his kind encouragment. I have the fever and will return to Angeles very soon. Hope to catch up with you there. Cheers to all, Mike.

BeachBoy46
05-14-15, 04:33
Great way to end the AC visit. I applaud your nice treatment of this girl before the cheap charlies start cheeping in. Most of these girls are very honest. I have sent them to change hundreds of $US before and always the exact count. BTW, I have sent many girls to get mani, pedi, hot oil treatment shampoos and hair trims. It just brings out their beauty even more. Actually I just love running my hands thru their soft thick hair while sexing them up. Great reports.Thanks for your kind words mate. The look of surprise and joy when you give them something is fantastic. I know I know some day I will encounter a golddigger. Hopefully I can sus her out early. Cheers.

GoodEnough
05-14-15, 08:53
Being back from Angeles for a couple of weeks and writing about my adventures I find myself reflecting on life as it affects me and the rotten hand it deals to others.

I have mongered everywhere in SEA except China, Japan and Korea. I would say my two best places and also most sobering are Angeles and Phnom Penh. The experiences were very similar. Zero infrastructure, poverty and young girls forced to work the bars for family reasons. I'm not suggesting trafficking, just necessity. The Khmer girls were beautiful but shy, whilst the Angeles girls are a happy, bubbly lot who seem to have fun. Some posters on here have noted that 'don't lose sight of the fact that it is prostitution. Going with men for money is prostitution, like it or not" Well it may be so but it did not feel like it to me. No hard, tough as nails pros where I went, just young honeys trying to have fun whilst making the best if a difficult situation.

As I sit back in my comfortable home in Aus. ,with all the comforts of western society, free hospital care free medical care, subsided medicines, government pension for life subsidised utilities, subsided public transport, I feel great empathy for these people I have met who have been dealt such rotten hands in life. I have seen these girls spoken to and treated with great disrespect and it saddens me. If my respect sometimes leads me to part with more than the norm, I think of the above and feel happy I could help.

Lastly let me thank all the contributors to this forum. I read all posts no matter which country I am going. A special mention to Sir Lancelot for his recent incredible contributions and to West Coast for his kind encouragment. I have the fever and will return to Angeles very soon. Hope to catch up with you there. Cheers to all, Mike.I wish this post could be etched in bronze and posted on the portals fronting Walking Street, Burgos, and all of the other mongering area of this country. Having compassion for, and thus respecting these ladies and their humanness is, one would think, the appropriate mode of behavior both here and in all situations. Unfortunately all too often, it's not. Well done!

GE.

Engine Driver
05-14-15, 09:49
For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?

2. Do you do blow job?

3. Are you a cherry girl?

4. Are you on your menses?

5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.

Don't scrimp on the lady drink. Better to pay 150 PHP for the drink than 2,500 PHP for the bar fine and to find out she won't suck your cock.

Personally, I never seek out the girl. I wait for a girl to come to me. Better chance of a good outcome that way.

Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.

Lakeside
05-14-15, 10:46
For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?

2. Do you do blow job?

3. Are you a cherry girl?

4. Are you on your menses?

5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.Fully agree on the question / answer approach. Especially in Angeles it is a must. Maybe one more question: 6. Are you interested in a tip for good performance and making me happy? A bonus is normally enhancing the eagerness to please and leads to a better performance.

WestCoast1
05-14-15, 13:25
For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?
2. Do you do blow job?
3. Are you a cherry girl?
4. Are you on your menses?
5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.

Don't scrimp on the lady drink. Better to pay 150 PHP for the drink than 2,500 PHP for the bar fine and to find out she won't suck your cock.

Personally, I never seek out the girl. I wait for a girl to come to me. Better chance of a good outcome that way.

Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.We have somewhat different approaches while in the bar (I don't buy LD's if I can avoid it, and I don't wait for a girl to come to me). However, your 'list', while slightly different than mine, must not only be discussed with the girl -- "Honey can you #1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for me?" -- In addition I discuss it with the mamasan and the girl simultaneously after the girl has changed into her street clothes. On several occasions the mamasan has stopped the transaction in its tracks: "No! We don't allow the girl to agree to #3 (usually time she must stay)". Or, "No we don't allow the girl to make any agreement before leaving the bar. Anna you know you cannot do that". Its rare, but when the mama stops transaction like this, its a clear indication the bar is fine with girls running, and a place to avoid. Just get your money back at that point, and report the bar here if you can (I should have reported it back then).

X Man
05-14-15, 14:39
BB46, thanks for that. You've made my day. You've paid too much in my worthless opinion. But your young friend will forever remember you when she gets the normal tips. Not a bad strategy if you plan to return.

This was well written and it tugs at the heart and loins of some of us old bstrds.

As for cooking over a fire (like we would go camping or bbq), this is common in rural areas. I've been a guest at such a home party. The family had a karaoke machine. There was one wire into the shack to power the lights and karaoke machine and the one bulb over the outdoor dining area. Great experience. I've already shared it here at ISG. She's happily married in the West last I heard.

As for shedding tears, you need to stare at those crocodile tears a bit more before stuffing her purse with blue notes.

Great post, thanks for sharing. X.


SNIP

Her eyes were full of tears so I suggested we go for a swim. She did not own a swimming costume, so we just sat by the pool for a few hours as her life story unfolded. I had better send this before it gets lost. Back soon.

JonChiang
05-14-15, 14:56
Read a lots of article here, I share my experience, maybe it's suitable to newbie.

I'm middle age, not handsome guy, no good shape, and not a big spender.

When I went to a bar, I always keep smiling to every girls. Sometime I play with all girls, I found they like every funny guys, even coolest beauty.

When I sat down, I always keep eye contacts to every girls that I were interested. I can find the girl that was interested at me, when they finished dancing, they came to me and sat down by my side. Always respect them and be humorous. Then I can have a nice night. Hey man. It's just like we chased girls in school.

In my principle, instead of finding most beautiful girl, I'd rather find a girl having good feeling, but the first principle is she is the type I like.

If you are not sure that girl will stay with you all night, you can ask mamasan to deal with her. Sometime I bought 1 LD to mamasan to deal with that. And mamasan always buy me a beer. Hahaha.

Sad Sam
05-14-15, 15:22
I have been to AC a few times as well as BKK. While it is much easier to find diamonds in the rough and GFE in AC, I have not had any luck with the PSE style of no holes barred service that you can get at some of the oilies in BKK. Any suggestions or recommendations of either clubs or ladies that do this? My tastes run more with curvy girls that gave a decent face and are not too dark.

Feel free to PM me with specifics if you don't want to mention in the public forum. Thank you so much in advance.

Sammon
05-14-15, 15:51
For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?

2. Do you do blow job?

3. Are you a cherry girl?

4. Are you on your menses?

5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.

Don't scrimp on the lady drink. Better to pay 150 PHP for the drink than 2,500 PHP for the bar fine and to find out she won't suck your cock.

Personally, I never seek out the girl. I wait for a girl to come to me. Better chance of a good outcome that way.

Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.Interview is OK but you do not really expect a bargirl to stick to her answers do you?

Pick a girl, take her to your room, fuck her good. All the promises she makes in the bar may or may not materialize.

Lady drink is not required unless you want to be generous or really interested in the girl. Remember more you show interest more dead fush they are going to be. Because it means they know you are soft and can get away with anything.

Treat the girls kindly but hold on to your toughness to get what you want. After all you are not looking for a GF or wife unless I am mistaken.

ConquerorVal
05-14-15, 18:19
Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens.LOL. As it should be. Signs of lives lived well.

Streetlooker
05-14-15, 20:39
For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?

2. Do you do blow job?

3. Are you a cherry girl?

4. Are you on your menses?

5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.

Don't scrimp on the lady drink. Better to pay 150 PHP for the drink than 2,500 PHP for the bar fine and to find out she won't suck your cock.

Personally, I never seek out the girl. I wait for a girl to come to me. Better chance of a good outcome that way.

Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.Given that most of us are out of shape and older, The difference in experience is attitude. The girls are all dealing with physical likeness when it comes to us guys or costumers The diffince I have been told is how you treat them. Nice guys will get better treatment.

ForceSteeler
05-14-15, 21:49
Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.Yes but at the end of the day, these girls are prostitutes. And as a working girl, most of your clients are going to be old, out of shape men, its rare your going to find a guy that is under 25, with a six pack and handsome guy visiting Angeles city.

Besides I think a person that is young and in killer shape will look awkward in Angeles City? Whats the points of having a 6 pack and killer shape, and your still paying for pussy? Its kinda like if you see a attractive women, and she is paying for male escorts to have sex?

She will look awkward and it makes no sense! Now is she is over 50, you can understand!

Red Dogger
05-14-15, 23:39
Nice guys will get better treatment.Not my experience at all.

Obviously if they perceive you as a generous tipper, you get better treatment and, surprisingly, small and thoughtful gifts also often result in better treatment, but apart from that they are like any other girl. The worse you treat them, the better they treat you.

WestCoast1
05-15-15, 00:23
I have been to AC a few times as well as BKK. While it is much easier to find diamonds in the rough and GFE in AC, I have not had any luck with the PSE style of no holes barred service that you can get at some of the oilies in BKK. Any suggestions or recommendations of either clubs or ladies that do this? My tastes run more with curvy girls that gave a decent face and are not too dark.Discuss your specifics with the lady before you take her from the bar.

WestCoast1
05-15-15, 00:25
Interview is OK but you do not really expect a bargirl to stick to her answers do you?Respectfully, yes. The vast majority of girls (for me) do exactly what they say they will do, and often a bit more in AC.

QuackUp
05-15-15, 00:29
I arrived back to Angeles city and the Queens Hotel around noon. I knew the procedure, room not ready, go to the mall, maybe have some lunch. Since this was my last night in the P. I. , with a very early morning flight back to Hong Kong. The plan was to go to Ponytails, since they open early, hopefully meet a great girl, finish withher and be in bed by 20:00 to wake up at 04:00 for my 05:00 pickup for the airport. My flight was at 07:00.

So after going to the mall. I get freshened up and head over to Ponytails. Not to far a walk from the hotel. In fact, its closer than the mall. As I approach the door I notice they have stickers showing the A. E, visa and m / see logo. Interesting. Once inside, I knew this was the place for me. Air conditioner working great, nice and cool in the club. I get a seat order a drink and tell the waitress that its my first time in the bar. She said to ask her any questions, so I did. First, how much to take a girl out and for how long? $2000 and its up to you and the girl to discuss the time.

Second, do you accept credit cards to pay the bar fine? Yes. Perfect because I was on the border to exchange money.

So Iam feeling comfortable at this club because the girls on stage are looking pretty good. After a while I see a taller girl dancing on stage but its funny because she never looked m way. Actually, most of the girls didn't look my way. Most of the girls were either facing the bar, away from the front door, or looking to the right of the bar, actually looking at the mirror. I thought it was little strange, I thought they would try and engage th customer.

Finally the waitress comes over and I asked her to get a girl for me. So off she went but soon came back empty handed. She told me she was occupied with another customer. Then, I asked why is she dancing? The waitress had no answer. Okay there are other girls who look good. Not quite as good as the one I wanted but what can you do.

Still relaxing a girl comes over and sits next to me. She looked okay, pretty face, a little taller and she engages the conversation. Sorry, I forgot her name. For some reason she seemed hard core. Not that, that is bad. I told her Iam just chilling out and she starts to massage me. It actually felt pretty good. I told her I actually had my eyes on someone else. She then goes into her, I will make you so happy, you will feel so good after being with me. She almost had me convinced but I stuck to my guns and she said okay. But if you don't connect with that other girl, I'll be waiting. Back to the stage, there is a cute girl, actually looking my way. She sees me looking at her and smiles. I give a big smile back and wave to her. At this time the girls start to head off the stage. I try to follow her to catch her but she like the other girl, goes to a booth where a guy is waiting for her. Again, I don't get why there girls go on stage if they are already occupied.

A little later I see a new girl on stage. Not too bad looking but not as good as the first two that I had spotted. The waitress gets her for me and I get her a drink. The chemistry just wasn't there. She hardly spoke. Only spoke if I asked her a question. So after a while, I told her she could go back to the dancing. She thanked me for the drink and went back to the stage.

The waitress sat next to me and we started taking. Then I told her, I'am going to the mall have dinner and hopefully one of the first two girls will be availiable. At the mall I ate at a restaurant called Mesa. I highly recommend this restaurant. Good food and good service. Everything is made fresh and they tell you when you order that some dishes takes longer than others. The highlight for me was this appetizer that comes in these large spoons that look like the spoons they use at a Chinese restaurant for their soup. 7 spoons in total. I also had the seabass which took about 25 minutes to cook. This is the kind of place that if I had a very special someone in Angeles city, this is where I would take her. After dinner, back to Ponytails.

The waitress from before sees me and waves me over to a table and I order a drink. She then says, Ill go get the girl for you. She comes back and tells me the first girl I liked was gone and the second was still at the booth with another customer. It is now approaching 18:00 and I feel like I'am running out of time. The hard core girl spots me and sits next to me. She is now wearing a smock that said massage on the back. I told her she must be multi talented. She smiled and put her used car sale man pitch to me. Since I felt pressured about time, I agreed to take her, hard core or not.

Back at the hotel, all the signs of being hard core come up. Long shower, trying to rush the session. But to her credit, she did give a great BBBJ. I think because I had such a great session yesterday, I lasted much longer than what she thought. No DATY little kissing. The deed was covered. After we were done, she showers then I shower. When I get out, she is already dressed and ready to go. Although the session wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, it wasn't the GFE I was looking for. With time running out, I figure that this was probably the best I could do in A / see. So she leaves and I start to pack. It is now around 20:00. I was conflicted. A / see with all the girls here and Iam going to leave without having one GFE here? I said, screw it, sleep or no sleep, I'am going back out. Walked back to Ponytails. The same waitress comes over and brings me my drink. She then says I think your second choice is still here and free. She brings her over and she looks as good as when I first swa her. She comes over with a big smile, her name is Leah. I buy her a drink and we start talking. Around 20:30 I asked her if she would like to go back to the hotel with me. To my disappointment, she said no. She said her work finishes at 21:00 and would usually stay later if need be, but she had promise her sister to help her out with something. Okay, looks like I'am down to my last strike again.

Should I take my losses and rest up for tomorrow, or not get any sleep trying to find that diamond in the rough. Puck it, I went to Doll house. When I was in Subic, the two girls from T Rose recommended this place. I get there around 20:45 and it's pretty packed. Only seats on the ground floor is at the stage. Then the waitress told me I could go upstairs and sit up there. I choose upstairs. Most of the girls look pretty good in here. All different shapes and sizes but some of them looked bored. While looking down, I see a girl sitting alone at the stage area. I asked the waitress to get her for me. I buy her a drink and the waitress asked if I could buy her a drink also. Usually I would say no, but since this is my last night and she did have to go downstairs, I bought her a drink also. The girl name is Lisa and she told me she was 18 years old. Oh great, another fine pick. Of all the girls, I had to pick a young and inexperience girl. Even at that, she looked good and again, I'am worried about the time, so I asked her if she wanted to come back to the hotel with me. I figure, if nothing else, at least I bonked an 18 year old girl, something that would probably never happen back home.

Back at the hotel, this girl was not shy. Once the door closed, we were making out like the teenager she was. Totally awesome. She then goes to the shower, but unfortunately, because of the previous session, only the small towel were availiable to her. Next time I have to remember to ask for more clean towels. While she is showering, I put a condom on the nightstand just in case. Then I go take my shower. When I finish I jump on the bed next to her and we start to make out again. The way she kisses, I'am thinking, is she really only 18? Slowly she goes down for some awesome BBBJ. I return the favor and she starts to scream. I must have been pressing the right buttons because her screams were getting louder. I was getting a little worried about how loud she was. So we get to the main deed and I'am waiting for her to tell me to put on the condom. I know she saw it on the nightstand. Instead she flips me over and rides me CG. Then I flip her around for some doggie, and finnish off in mish. I like to finish off in mish so I can DFK her while performing the act. She sure does know how to use her tongue. Another first for me. Every time she o'd, she would scream very loud and scratch my back with her fingernails, it was different and exciting and painful all at the same time. Awesome. When I got close to the finish, I put on the condom and finished inside the condom. Just because she is so young, I thought she might be more fertile and didn't want to take a chance. Although I have to admit, part of me wanted to finish without the condom. After I finished, she didn't want me to pull out. We just kind of held each other for a while. Finally when I got soft, I pulled out and she went to shower again.

After my shower, I was expecting her to be dressed like my earlier session. To my pleasant surprise, she was still naked laying on my bed. I was actually going to tell her she could leave, but once I saw her like that, and then she smiled at me, it was over. Round 2 ding ding. Pretty much the same as the first but this time she was really sinking her nails into my back. It was pretty funny because the next day in Macau. I went to a sauna and one of the massage girls told me, you must have had a great time before. I asked why and she pointed to my back and said I had love marks. Because these were on my back, I didn't really see them.

So after round 2, I get out of the shower and again she is naked but this time under the sheets. It is now a little after midnight. I tell her, if you want to sleep here, that's okay with me. But I have to wake up at 04:00 and be ready to leave the hotel by 05:00. Or if you want to leave now, that's okay also. She choose to leave. This was such an awesome experience, the kind I was looking for since the first day I arrived in A / see. I gave her a decent tip and the rest of the gifts I had brought. She was very appreciative and it took some time to release from our lip lock. I felt so lucky. Here I thought because she was so young, she wouldn't be any good in bed. Just the opposite. Like the old saying, never judge a book by it's cover. Almost forgot, the barfine was $3000 and I did use my credit card to pay.

My last day in Subic Bay was awesome, my last day in A / see and the P. I. , wayyy off the charts. Don't know when or if I will be back, but I will have some great memories of the time spent here. Again thanks to all the previous posters for all the information needed to survive the P. I.

Canute
05-15-15, 00:58
A strange comment or two about their being nothing to do, and that somehow enjoying downtime is equated with sloth.

My free time?

Two hours of massage per day.

An hour and half of working out.

An hour of walking around.

I read an hour or two a day (book, ho hum post-internet, but try it sometime!

My personal hobby (writing) for about two hours a day.

So, for me, the free time and lack of structure post no problem. For those that do, its the same problem anywhere, and makes retirement a *****, for those that are there. Those who develop absorbing life interests and use their free time for both joy AND meaning have an easier time of it, regardless of the stage of life, IMHO.Great quote of using free time for both joy and meaning.

Are there many places in AC where I could get a 2 hour massage during the day without he or BJ. Almost like physical therapy. I would rather reserve my limited orgasms for evening activities. This way both the day time and night time are meaningful.

Thanks

Capt Munch
05-15-15, 01:30
To the Cup.

Filipino girl by average have the Tightest pussy in the world most of them is so tight I have NOT been everywhere in the world. But have been around Pinay pussy for a number of years.

And. Even though the girls like to say " you are so BIG" hehehehe) I find that it easy enough to fit in almost every Pinay pekpek that I have tried.

WITH. . . A couple of exceptions. . . One recently. . . That was NOT our first time together. . . But after boom2 x. There was a little blood. Apparently, a little tight that time.

BUT. . . . I did tell an ex-GF that maybe her new boyfriend is a little bigger than me. . . Since her pussy is a little loose. She thought maybe the pekpek will tighten up while her new boyfriend will be away. In the meantime, she did get ENGAGED to his WALLET and is happy in love with him.

Fast Eddie 48
05-15-15, 02:01
I have NOT been everywhere in the world. But have been around Pinay pussy for a number of years.

And. Even though the girls like to say " you are so BIG" hehehehe) I find that it easy enough to fit in almost every Pinay pekpek that I have tried.

WITH. . . A couple of exceptions. . . One recently. . . That was NOT our first time together. . . But after boom2 x. There was a little blood. Apparently, a little tight that time.

BUT. . . . I did tell an ex-GF that maybe her new boyfriend is a little bigger than me. . . Since her pussy is a little loose. She thought maybe the pekpek will tighten up while her new boyfriend will be away. In the meantime, she did get ENGAGED to his WALLET and is happy in love with him.To Capt.

I am just trying to answer the Cup question about not all slim tiny girl have tight pussy, I have some slim small ass girl in China, Thailand, S America and Indo never have any girl tighter than the girl in PI even woman in the late 20 are tighter than girl in other country.

Fast eddie 48.

Lost99
05-15-15, 03:21
Never been to Angeles. But also intrigued in visiting because of the GFE, cheap cost of all-nighters, and endless supply of talent.

However, I'm a picky fellow. I only go for girls with big breasts. D, E, F cups or bigger. I don't mind if she's a bit thick, or even MILF, but no BBW or fatties. Not my thing. To me there is no better feeling than squeezing and sucking those melons while pumping away below. I've watched maybe 6 youtube videos filming gogo's in Angeles, and street walking videos on Fields Ave. In all that footage, I didn't see even one busty lady that meets my criteria. All the girls look extremely flat chested to me. So here I come to you fellow ISGers, looking for your advice before I cross Angeles off my travel list.

1. How hard / rare is it to find a Big Breasted Pinay in Angeles? In Thailand, I could always find one but may have to spend a few hrs and visit maybe 3-5 gogo's / bars etc. But usually found what I wanted (although enhanced sometimes).

2. Are girls like this in high demand? Do they usually cost more? Are they always taken / reserved?

As I said, very curious about Angeles, but have some strong doubts as to finding my types.

Wicked Roger
05-15-15, 15:31
Never been to Angeles. But also intrigued in visiting because of the GFE, cheap cost of all-nighters, and endless supply of talent.

However, I'm a picky fellow. I only go for girls with big breasts. D, E, F cups or bigger. I don't mind if she's a bit thick, or even MILF, but no BBW or fatties. Not my thing. To me there is no better feeling than squeezing and sucking those melons while pumping away below. I've watched maybe 6 youtube videos filming gogo's in Angeles, and street walking videos on Fields Ave. In all that footage, I didn't see even one busty lady that meets my criteria. All the girls look extremely flat chested to me. So here I come to you fellow ISGers, looking for your advice before I cross Angeles off my travel list.

1. How hard / rare is it to find a Big Breasted Pinay in Angeles? In Thailand, I could always find one but may have to spend a few hrs and visit maybe 3-5 gogo's / bars etc. But usually found what I wanted (although enhanced sometimes).

2. Are girls like this in high demand? Do they usually cost more? Are they always taken / reserved?

As I said, very curious about Angeles, but have some strong doubts as to finding my types.Ask DCups as he is forever asking about those melon sizes.

IMHO Lost99, anyone with boobs that are naturally that big is a chubby LOL. But each to his own.

Sammon
05-15-15, 16:47
Never been to Angeles. But also intrigued in visiting because of the GFE, cheap cost of all-nighters, and endless supply of talent.

However, I'm a picky fellow. I only go for girls with big breasts. D, E, F cups or bigger. I don't mind if she's a bit thick, or even MILF, but no BBW or fatties. Not my thing. To me there is no better feeling than squeezing and sucking those melons while pumping away below. I've watched maybe 6 youtube videos filming gogo's in Angeles, and street walking videos on Fields Ave. In all that footage, I didn't see even one busty lady that meets my criteria. All the girls look extremely flat chested to me. So here I come to you fellow ISGers, looking for your advice before I cross Angeles off my travel list.

1. How hard / rare is it to find a Big Breasted Pinay in Angeles? In Thailand, I could always find one but may have to spend a few hrs and visit maybe 3-5 gogo's / bars etc. But usually found what I wanted (although enhanced sometimes).

2. Are girls like this in high demand? Do they usually cost more? Are they always taken / reserved?

As I said, very curious about Angeles, but have some strong doubts as to finding my types.It is rare to find big boobs on young women. Older waitresses have big ones. They are fat as well. Of course good looking girls with reasonably good size boobs are in high demand. You need to be aware of one thing. They all wear padded, push up bras unless they are dancers who wear see through blouses. I have been fooled before.

Thailand or Northern Chinese girls have nice size stand up boobs. Hard to find those in Phi.

You got to look at the Ladder these girls take. Majority of good looking girls with big boobs work for KTV or high end clubs. Only time these girls come to AC is when they are over 25 years of age if they do not retire with lots of money. KTV and high end clubs generally tend to keep only young girls.

In spite of the reputation that Phi girls are easy majority do not like to be prostitutes. Your best bet maybe dating sites where you can find some big breasted girls.

Member #4351
05-15-15, 17:29
I only go for girls with big breasts. Instead of wasting your time in Asia you should just go to Sosua.

Sxxxx
05-16-15, 00:02
Never been to Angeles. I'm a picky fellow. I only go for girls with big breasts. D, E, F cups or bigger. For many years the Cups has been asking guys for info on women with big breasts. He gets answers / help too. The Cups must have the most comprehensive info on big breasted Phil women by now. As others have helped him in the past I presume he would be willing to help you, a fellow the Cup specialist, now? Send him a PM if necessary.

Fast Eddie 48
05-16-15, 01:49
Instead of wasting your time in Asia you should just go to Sosua.To David.

That is I been telling the Cup if you want big breast go to DR and S America you get big Ass and Pussy too.

Fast eddie 48.

Wicked Roger
05-16-15, 23:27
That is I been telling the Cup if you want big breast go to DR and S America you get big Ass and Pussy too.Another reason why I will stick to pinays. Thanks for reminding me again FE of this fact LOL.

Sir Lancelot
05-17-15, 14:46
Like the saying goes "its more fun in the Philippines" BB.


Don't know when or if I will be back, but I will have some great memories of the time spent here.Great write-ups guys, really enjoyed reading them.

D Cups
05-17-15, 16:07
To David.

That is I been telling the Cup if you want big breast go to DR and S America you get big Ass and Pussy too.

Fast eddie 48.Ya, I am going to DR next month, Eddie; and PI and Bali in October. I am hoping to bang the biggest boobs I can find in all three. I love the sexy little pinays but am addicted to the boobs in other countries. What a quandary. I fear that I might have to purchase some bolt-ONS for my favorite Pinays when I retire there in 2022.

D Cups
05-17-15, 16:27
Ask DCups as he is forever asking about those melon sizes.

IMHO Lost99, anyone with boobs that are naturally that big is a chubby LOL. But each to his own.Hi WR, ah yes, the perpetual big boob search! Will I ever be satisfied? NO! Given that there are millions of new available 18+ year olds in the choicest mongering countries like PI, Thailand, Indonesia, DR and Colombia my quest is neverending! For Lost 99, out of all the beauties I have banged in the PI truthfully there were only four that had Dee Cups. They were all a little chubby but not fat. Three of them were very pretty and amorous whereas the fourth could suck a schwantztooka like it was her life mission. However, the more plentiful Cee Cups on such tiny Filipina frames are quite satisfying and to be found at most of the popular venues like LA Cafe. I would say one or two in ten. Most of the Pinays are A or maybe Bee cup but they are so loving with such tiny twats that you will still have a great time. I'd recommend taking two at a time (girlfriends) to double your fun.

Guillermo
05-17-15, 23:40
Greetings,

I've been reading the forum for the past few months and have found it to be an excellent source of info, I'm thinking about making my next trip to the PI. It will actually be my first trip to Asia.

There is a lot of excellent info here; it seems just about every subject has been covered by someone at some point, but there's one question I still have: cellphones.

Couple things I'd like to know:

A) is a cellphone necessary in a place like Angeles, or the PI in general, and

B) what is the standard for phone service? Is it GSM? CDMA? I have some unlocked GSM phones that I take with me to Europe and Latin America. Can I just buy a SIMM card and use them? Do I need to buy a phone there?

What's your advice?

GoodEnough
05-17-15, 23:51
Greetings,

I've been reading the forum for the past few months and have found it to be an excellent source of info, I'm thinking about making my next trip to the PI. It will actually be my first trip to Asia.

There is a lot of excellent info here; it seems just about every subject has been covered by someone at some point, but there's one question I still have: cellphones.

Couple things I'd like to know:

A) is a cellphone necessary in a place like Angeles, or the PI in general, and

B) what is the standard for phone service? Is it GSM? CDMA? I have some unlocked GSM phones that I take with me to Europe and Latin America. Can I just buy a SIMM card and use them? Do I need to buy a phone there?

What's your advice?The system in the Philippines is GSM and its reliability is typical of that of a third world country. You can purchase a SIMM card on either of e two major networks, Globe and Smart, for less than a $1. 00 and load up with minutes--which is called load here--easily and quickly at a variety of outlets.

This is the texting capital of the universe, so if you plan on establishing any relationships that would require remote communications, it's a good idea to have a local number.

GE.

Sammon
05-18-15, 01:14
Ya, I am going to DR next month, Eddie; and PI and Bali in October. I am hoping to bang the biggest boobs I can find in all three. I love the sexy little pinays but am addicted to the boobs in other countries. What a quandary. I fear that I might have to purchase some bolt-ONS for my favorite Pinays when I retire there in 2022.Assuming you are going to find big boobs girl, it is a toss up if you can have your way with those boobs. Some girls like it while others do not want too much touching or kissing. I had some Colombians with BB who feared too much playing will make them sag. Whether it is scientifically true or not I do not know.

Fastpiston
05-18-15, 01:14
The system in the Philippines is GSM and its reliability is typical of that of a third world country. You can purchase a SIMM card on either of e two major networks, Globe and Smart, for less than a $1. 00 and load up with minutes--which is called load here--easily and quickly at a variety of outlets.

This is the texting capital of the universe, so if you plan on establishing any relationships that would require remote communications, it's a good idea to have a local number.

GE.Agreed, the cellphone is part of the anatomy of Filipinas, one has to have an operation to disengage the phone from their hands. Look in the mall, they carry the phones in front of them!

BeachBoy46
05-18-15, 07:51
BB46, thanks for that. You've made my day. You've paid too much in my worthless opinion. But your young friend will forever remember you when she gets the normal tips. Not a bad strategy if you plan to return.

This was well written and it tugs at the heart and loins of some of us old bstrds.

As for cooking over a fire (like we would go camping or bbq), this is common in rural areas. I've been a guest at such a home party. The family had a karaoke machine. There was one wire into the shack to power the lights and karaoke machine and the one bulb over the outdoor dining area. Great experience. I've already shared it here at ISG. She's happily married in the West last I heard.

As for shedding tears, you need to stare at those crocodile tears a bit more before stuffing her purse with blue notes.

Great post, thanks for sharing. X.Glad you enjoyed my efforts. I agree, but that last girl had the "it" factor for me and the extra seemed to be justified. However I stayed fairly conservative with my other encounters.

Yes, those tears have a way of melting even the hardest of hearts. Cheers and good luck. Mike.

Nightrider1
05-18-15, 12:26
Agreed, the cellphone is part of the anatomy of Filipinas, one has to have an operation to disengage the phone from their hands. Look in the mall, they carry the phones in front of them!Also look at pics of groups of Filipinos in facebook, you can bet over half in the pic will be either holding a cell phone or have it on the table in front of them. When I am in Phil I have a dual simm cell phone with both a Smart and a Globe simm. Your load will disappear quickly when you start communicating with these texting happy filipinas.

Henry R
05-18-15, 20:43
You can skip the barfine and just go to club High Society there are plenty of Freelancers that will stay all night for 2 k maybe less if drunk and into you.Any reviews of High Society? I haven't been to AC in years, so I would like to know more about this place.

Screaming Beaver
05-18-15, 20:52
Any reviews of High Society? I haven't been to AC in years, so I would like to know more about this place.Some guys like it. Some guys don't. You can expect to pay around 1000-1500 for short time. It's not just hookers in there. Some are there with their BF's so make sure she gives you a smile before you walk up to her and offer a drink.

Also, there are a few lady boys hanging out there so be careful.

Roaddog
05-19-15, 00:31
Any reviews of High Society? I haven't been to AC in years, so I would like to know more about this place.Oh yeah and BTW there is a door cost too to add to what the last gentleman said, this club get very crowded and there are plenty of freelancers there. Have fun and be safe.

Lou32
05-19-15, 01:52
Anyone ever try to exchange baht for pesos?

How has the exchange rate been recently in Angeles?

Henry R
05-19-15, 02:14
Some guys like it. Some guys don't. You can expect to pay around 1000-1500 for short time. It's not just hookers in there. Some are there with their BF's so make sure she gives you a smile before you walk up to her and offer a drink. Also, there are a few lady boys hanging out there so be careful.Thanks for the info. I'll try to avoid the ladyboys and the girls who have boyfriends.
Question: In High Society, do many of the girls there do all night long? Any idea how many pesos for all night?

Mr Enternational
05-19-15, 03:17
Some guys like it. Some guys don't. You can expect to pay around 1000-1500 for short time.Now you are talking my language. I have never been much into the bars. FL discos are my thing. Speaking of High Society, many girls will go for free. I have usually paid 1000 LT though. I have never even done a ST or had any girl suggest one. Last time (February) I got a girl and her friend (their suggestion - they approached me) for 1500 each LT (their first offer which I accepted; sure I could have told them 1000 and it would have been ok). I don't think I ever got around to writing the report or maybe I did. Within 5 minutes of entering the place they were on me. I hadn't even finished my first drink. I told them we could go when I finished. You best believe they both stood there with their eyes glued to me as I drank it.

It was the best 3 some I have had in my life and definitely my top AC experience. They were kissing and eating each other out and even insisted on calling another friend. I told them we could save her for next time. They said she won't lick our pussy, but she will let us lick hers. And she has a big ass. I usually don't get phone numbers but I definitely got the alpha girl's because I'm anxious to check out the friend. I will roll back through in August.

Mr Enternational
05-19-15, 03:24
Anyone ever try to exchange baht for pesos?You never want to do that unless you like getting fucked in a bad way. Always change back to US $ or euro before you leave the country that the currency is from. I was once leaving Indonesia and changing rupiah to baht. I didn't realize it until I left the window. If I would have changed to US $ then I would have gotten like $30 back, but changing directly like that I think I only got the equivalent of $20 in baht.

Lou32
05-19-15, 09:56
You never want to do that unless you like getting fucked in a bad way. Always change back to US $ or euro before you leave the country that the currency is from. I was once leaving Indonesia and changing rupiah to baht. I didn't realize it until I left the window. If I would have changed to US $ then I would have gotten like $30 back, but changing directly like that I think I only got the equivalent of $20 in baht.Exactly the info I was looking for, thanks.

I think I'll just stick to ATMs then.

Lou32
05-19-15, 09:59
Now you are talking my language. I have never been much into the bars. FL discos are my thing. Speaking of High Society, many girls will go for free. I have usually paid 1000 LT though. I have never even done a ST or had any girl suggest one. Last time (February) I got a girl and her friend (their suggestion - they approached me) for 1500 each LT (their first offer which I accepted; sure I could have told them 1000 and it would have been ok). I don't think I ever got around to writing the report or maybe I did. Within 5 minutes of entering the place they were on me. I hadn't even finished my first drink. I told them we could go when I finished. You best believe they both stood there with their eyes glued to me as I drank it.

It was the best 3 some I have had in my life and definitely my top AC experience. They were kissing and eating each other out and even insisted on calling another friend. I told them we could save her for next time. They said she won't lick our pussy, but she will let us lick hers. And she has a big ass. I usually don't get phone numbers but I definitely got the alpha girl's because I'm anxious to check out the friend. I will roll back through in August.This sounds excellent but I wonder if this is typical of HS or if one would be more likely to get into a starfish / scam situation if a girl in the club was so eager to make the date. I only went into HiSo with my bargirl "dates" during my first trip but I want to explore the FL side on my upcoming adventure.

Mr Enternational
05-19-15, 13:25
This sounds excellent but I wonder if this is typical of HS or if one would be more likely to get into a starfish / scam situation if a girl in the club was so eager to make the date. I only went into HiSo with my bargirl "dates" during my first trip but I want to explore the FL side on my upcoming adventure.Me, my friends, 2 of my brothers, my dad, and my cousin all do High Society. Never any starfish or any scams. I remember having to make my youngest brother put his girl out the next day because me and my dad were packed ready to head to Thailand and him and his girl were laid up like they were on honeymoon.

Henry R
05-19-15, 20:29
Now you are talking my language. I have never been much into the bars. FL discos are my thing. Speaking of High Society, many girls will go for free. I have usually paid 1000 LT though. I have never even done a ST or had any girl suggest one. Last time (February) I got a girl and her friend (their suggestion - they approached me) for 1500 each LT (their first offer which I accepted; sure I could have told them 1000 and it would have been ok). I don't think I ever got around to writing the report or maybe I did. Within 5 minutes of entering the place they were on me. I hadn't even finished my first drink. I told them we could go when I finished. You best believe they both stood there with their eyes glued to me as I drank it.

It was the best 3 some I have had in my life and definitely my top AC experience. They were kissing and eating each other out and even insisted on calling another friend. I told them we could save her for next time. They said she won't lick our pussy, but she will let us lick hers. And she has a big ass. I usually don't get phone numbers but I definitely got the alpha girl's because I'm anxious to check out the friend. I will roll back through in August.Your experience is my dream come true! Congratulations!

Remember though that August is monsoon season in Philippines.

Fast Eddie 48
05-20-15, 01:23
Anyone ever try to exchange baht for pesos?

How has the exchange rate been recently in Angeles?To Lou.

I change about 3000 bht to peso at the Clark airport a few month ago from the money charger at the airport is a bank rate is not that bad, it is a better rate if you have USD or HKD most money charger in town do offer poor rate for baht if you have a large amount just change it back to USD in Thailand before you leave.

Fast eddie 48.

Engine Driver
05-21-15, 09:20
Inflation is having an effect on the mongering scene. Bar fines (or more correctly EWRs) at Insomnia, Atlantis and Doll House are PHP 3,000. LD's at Insomnia are PHP 300 and at Atlantis and Doll House are PHP 250. Given that it is customary to tip PHP 500 for a good LT performance, the prices are not that cheap anymore. Sure, there's plenty of free lancers about at cheaper prices, but weigh up the risks. No health checks, could be [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903), could be a lady boy or could be involved in a scam to fleece you.

One of the bar girls I took back said she only does CBJ. Now that seems to be a first for Angeles City. This contrasts with another girl the previous night who insisted I cum in her mouth and swallowed every drop of a large load.

Lou32
05-21-15, 09:58
Me, my friends, 2 of my brothers, my dad, and my cousin all do High Society. Never any starfish or any scams. I remember having to make my youngest brother put his girl out the next day because me and my dad were packed ready to head to Thailand and him and his girl were laid up like they were on honeymoon.More good news, thanks!

On a slightly different subject, I am going to try to make that left turn from the ABC entrance this trip and try the Perimeter bars in that direction. Is it still true that the prices for both drinks and services remain cheaper at those bars? I want to try Det5 if it still has a good rep!

Mr Enternational
05-21-15, 10:59
I am going to try the Perimeter bars in that direction. Is it still true that the prices for both drinks and services remain cheaper at those bars? I want to try Det5 if it still has a good rep!I didn't see anything there for me, but in Feb the barfine in Det5 was 1600.

KiwiBoy
05-21-15, 22:43
More good news, thanks!

On a slightly different subject, I am going to try to make that left turn from the ABC entrance this trip and try the Perimeter bars in that direction. Is it still true that the prices for both drinks and services remain cheaper at those bars? I want to try Det5 if it still has a good rep!Absolutely, I was there in March and certainly prices are cheaper, 1500 - 1700 and may I add services in my opinion where better than the SOME of the hotties from the cotton fields.

I now understand why my guru, teacher, mentor, brother Big Kahuna shops in SM, Robinsons and the street markets.

Lou32
05-22-15, 01:37
I didn't see anything there for me, but in Feb the barfine in Det5 was 1600.1600 with an optional tip for a few hours isn't too bad. I'll check it out even if the pickings are very slim.

Dg8787
05-22-15, 02:05
1600 with an optional tip for a few hours isn't too bad. I'll check it out even if the pickings are very slim.Nothing wrong with the perimeter bars. Det5 did lose a lot of girls to Fire Pit the other month. Candy Bar next to Det5 did have some nice lookers. FYI, some perimeter girls go home at closing time around 11:00 pm so the family don't know they are working in a bar, so ask in advance and take them out earlier. Also they will ask what hotel you are in, mostly so they don't run into friends or family working there. They may also tell you that they will meet you at your hotel so their F + F don't see them with someone. Personally I have a better time with the perimeter girls than fields girls. Also with the BF around 1500 I tip the girls better, generally around 1000. Still for me a better value and GFE experience. I will be back in June and my dance card is already pretty full with 7 perimeter girls from before!

Engine Driver
05-22-15, 04:19
Avoid the Nemesis Bar at all costs. Was previously named Genesis. There is no mamasan. Only a Korean male manager who clearly has no idea how to control the girls. They have his measure and the concept of customer service is non-existent.

The bar fine of PHP 2,500 is paid directly to the girl and she then presumably gives a cut to Mr Kim. Took a skinny stunner named Juss. I knew she was going to be a starfish, but having partied hard for the past week, I just needed just a warm body to lie next to in bed. Was not too concerned about PSE performance!

What followed next I think was an orchestrated scam. After agreeing to LT she then gets a phone call in the room after about 2 hours in. She explains that her best friend is going overseas blah blah and wants to go to her farewell party blah blah blah. Could she now leave? I said what about our contract as she accepted the money and agreed the terms. No answer and puts on the usual pinay sad face which you are all familiar with. I told her to go as there is no point putting up with an uncooperative girl for another 7 hours. If there was a strong mamasan at the bar, I doubt the girls would renege on contracts like this. What are punters like us going to do? Go see Mr Kim for a refund? That's why these scams work.

Mr Enternational
05-22-15, 08:47
Avoid the Nemesis Bar at all costs. Was previously named Genesis. There is no mamasan.

The bar fine of PHP 2,500 is paid directly to the girl and she then presumably gives a cut to Mr Kim.

She explains that her best friend is going overseas blah blah and wants to go to her farewell party blah blah blah. Could she now leave? I said what about our contract as she accepted the money and agreed the terms. If there was a strong mamasan at the bar, I doubt the girls would renege on contracts like this. What are punters like us going to do? Go see Mr Kim for a refund? That's why these scams work.In this case it appears to be the punter and not the bar. So you don't mind being at the mercy of a mamasan? How about taking some initiative and growing some balls. You are supposed to be the consumer but it looks like you are the one being consumed.

So you are supposed to pay the barfine directly to the girl? Well that is how I have always done things in AC, no matter what everyone else does. But I think the difference is that I pay the girl after the work is completed. You must have paid her before. Being paid before is no incentive for anything except to see how fast you can get off work to go spend the money. Does your boss pay you before work?

Lou32
05-22-15, 10:03
Avoid the Nemesis Bar at all costs. Was previously named Genesis. There is no mamasan. Only a Korean male manager who clearly has no idea how to control the girls. They have his measure and the concept of customer service is non-existent.

The bar fine of PHP 2,500 is paid directly to the girl and she then presumably gives a cut to Mr Kim. Took a skinny stunner named Juss. I knew she was going to be a starfish, but having partied hard for the past week, I just needed just a warm body to lie next to in bed. Was not too concerned about PSE performance!

What followed next I think was an orchestrated scam. After agreeing to LT she then gets a phone call in the room after about 2 hours in. She explains that her best friend is going overseas blah blah and wants to go to her farewell party blah blah blah. Could she now leave? I said what about our contract as she accepted the money and agreed the terms. No answer and puts on the usual pinay sad face which you are all familiar with. I told her to go as there is no point putting up with an uncooperative girl for another 7 hours. If there was a strong mamasan at the bar, I doubt the girls would renege on contracts like this. What are punters like us going to do? Go see Mr Kim for a refund? That's why these scams work.Is it the whole bar or just that girl? My very first barfine last year was from Club Asia and the girl was fun and giggly in the bar and seemed very enthusiastic but complained about walking back to my hotel which was the first warning sign. After about an hour of fun then about 45 minutes of "sleep" she simply rolled over and told me she had to go. We had agreed on her staying to 10 AM and she says this to me around 3 AM. She even did the sad puppy dog face. I didn't feel as if the whole bar did this to me though.

Key Master
05-22-15, 10:20
Is it the whole bar or just that girl? My very first barfine last year was from Club Asia and the girl was fun and giggly in the bar and seemed very enthusiastic but complained about walking back to my hotel which was the first warning sign. After about an hour of fun then about 45 minutes of "sleep" she simply rolled over and told me she had to go. We had agreed on her staying to 10 AM and she says this to me around 3 AM. She even did the sad puppy dog face. I didn't feel as if the whole bar did this to me though.I agree. It can happen from any bar, not specifically Nemesis due to their situation. It happens to me on occasion even with my best gut feelings and interrogations I can be fooled. Some bars may have it happen more than others though but I seriously doubt that there is any club there that is really immune to it. I heard but not verified, that the owner of Texas does not allow that though. All the ones I have taken from there have always stayed the night. I think that is a rare exception and not sure if that is really a rule in his bar.

Key Master
05-22-15, 10:24
In this case it appears to be the punter and not the bar. So you don't mind being at the mercy of a mamasan? How about taking some initiative and growing some balls. You are supposed to be the consumer but it looks like you are the one being consumed.

So you are supposed to pay the barfine directly to the girl? Well that is how I have always done things in AC, no matter what everyone else does. But I think the difference is that I pay the girl after the work is completed. You must have paid her before. Being paid before is no incentive for anything except to see how fast you can get off work to go spend the money. Does your boss pay you before work?Confused. You have quoted some barfine or EWR costs and say you always pay afterwards. I see also that you do the freelance scene in AC. Do you not barfine or EWR in the clubs? Only recently have some bars instituted the pay the woman instead of the bar deal, but a lot have not. You still have to pay before you leave the club. Are you really doing that with clubs in AC or are you talking specifically for freelancers? If you are talking about the bars in AC please name them. I'm curious.

PeeMan
05-22-15, 11:47
In this case it appears to be the punter and not the bar. So you don't mind being at the mercy of a mamasan? How about taking some initiative and growing some balls. You are supposed to be the consumer but it looks like you are the one being consumed.

So you are supposed to pay the barfine directly to the girl? Well that is how I have always done things in AC, no matter what everyone else does. But I think the difference is that I pay the girl after the work is completed. You must have paid her before. Being paid before is no incentive for anything except to see how fast you can get off work to go spend the money. Does your boss pay you before work?I am here at fields ave for my second night now. Based on some postings here I trusted the mamasan and paid 2. 4 k for an EWR upfront (she even brought an official looking form thus titled and scribbled a signature hastily in front of me) after having a great time with a foxy looking thing from HiQ. I believe this is the norm at some places while at others you pay the gal. At least I vaguely recall reading this somewhere in the last 15 pages. She kept the commitment until 12 pm today instead of the agreed upon lunch time. But that's more because I lost my "power" and began feeling dull heavy and under the weather and got her bored with my less than enthusiastic morning performance.

I bar-hopped about 7 to 8 places last night. Almost all the places from Dollshouse to Gecko to Rhapsody, Shipwrecked and many others my beer laden stupor won't allow me to remember, had very sad looking gals. I mean wasting bodies because of their night shift and poor diet. I was at the fag end of my bar hopping stamina when I found this dreamy eyed sweetness of a door gal whom I instantly grabbed around the waist and dragged her into HiQ for an interview. She said she didn't do ass so I asked her playfully what she did best. When she remained silent unsure how to answer I suggested BJ? No she said. Not even that? I don't like she said. I had to let her go. Even as I interviewed her this foxy bundle of enthusiasm had been making eyes at me from the dance floor. I was at the extreme corner of the bar but we had established enough rapport in the 15 minutes In interviewed the 1st gal and her intent to find a customer and make him happy was clear. She thrilled me with her tounge flicking it teasingly from the nape of my neck to the ear, as she gyrated to the music and even pulled up my T-shirt to nibble my nipple a few times all the while keeping a playful happy-go-lucky demeanor. That's it. I was sold.

The previous night in BKK I was tired from a 11h flight and ended picking up a sad (in retrospect) 5/10 FL from Amazonia. This is prolly the 5th or 6 the time in my mongering vacations I let the darkness of the ambient lighting and the beer defeat my own judgment. She was a kisser though and we spent more time kissing than banging her puss. My 2nd night in Angels I had resolved to find one strictly above 5'6" with ample booties and hooters. The HiQ gal made me drop that idea just for the sheer fun factor of her company. Look for a gal named MaiMai with slanted Japanese eyes and a birthmark next to an eye. Yes she's half Jap, and for a mother of a boy and a working bar gal has an incredibly clean puss. I spend a good 30 minutes dining at the Y. She is a receiver and loves her cleat dealt with In a demanding fashion. Only that I believe my being under the weather today has to do with the bacteria at her Y. This is the umpteenth time I have felt something hitting hitting my throat even as I dined at the Y - Even with my regular girlfriend, and felt unwell the next day. Never had an STI though.

BTW she demanded a tip while leaving and I handed her 300. She looked mad at the measly amount and said not even 500? I normally take 1000. I reminded her of the breakfast room service and bar fine. She left in a huff reading my room number at the door with an attitude of revenge. Otherwise she was really a great gal to have throughout.

Cheers.

P.S.: pardon the lack of punctuation and quotes. Mobiles and long posts are anthetical to each other.

Peeman.

Engine Driver
05-22-15, 12:31
In this case it appears to be the punter and not the bar. So you don't mind being at the mercy of a mamasan? How about taking some initiative and growing some balls. You are supposed to be the consumer but it looks like you are the one being consumed.

So you are supposed to pay the barfine directly to the girl? Well that is how I have always done things in AC, no matter what everyone else does. But I think the difference is that I pay the girl after the work is completed. You must have paid her before. Being paid before is no incentive for anything except to see how fast you can get off work to go spend the money. Does your boss pay you before work?Mr Entertainment, I respect your seniority, knowledge and experience, but on this occasion I think you are talking out of your ass. When the girl in the bar (not a freelancer) says pay me now, you pay her in the bar. No pay, no take out.

And yes, I would rather be at the mercy of the mamasan as you put it. Do you think any girl at Doll House would be willing to take on Mama Marika? She is one of the most customer friendly mamasans in AC. My point was that it is always better to deal with an experienced mamasan rather than some faceless bean counter from Korea. I can just imagine you going to Mr Kim to reinforce your contract.

Peeman mentioned sad looking girls not helped by poor diet and lack of sleep. I have to agree that I have not seen a sadder looking bunch of girls than at AC. It's not just the late nights destroying their sleeping patterns, but daily Jollie Bee and the alcohol as well. I don't see any lolly water LD's anymore. I pace myself with SMLs, but the girls are drinking full strength lemon infused SMs. Given that they drinking at least 2-3 a night, 6 days a week, I wonder what their little Pinay livers look like in 12 months? They might need to include LFTs as part of their weekly testing.

Engine Driver
05-22-15, 12:55
Many people have written about how to kill the day time hours in Angeles City. After you kick out your bar fine at 9. 00 am, what do you do until 8. 00 pm before hitting the bars again? Here's my two cents worth:

1. Have breakfast at your hotel (1-hour).

2. Do your emails, attend to work matters back home, change money (2 hours).

3. Have a legit massage (1 hour).

4. Lunch anywhere (1 hour).

5. Have a foot massage (1 hour).

6. Walk to SM Clark Mall and browse the shops. Play spot the off-duty WL (2 hours).

7. Go to one of the gyms in AC and burn off those SMs and Jollie Bees (2 hours).

8. Read a book (1 hour).

9. Back to your room for a shower before heading out again (1 hour).

Mr Enternational
05-22-15, 13:50
Confused. You have quoted some barfine or EWR costs and say you always pay afterwards. I see also that you do the freelance scene in AC. Do you not barfine or EWR in the clubs? Only recently have some bars instituted the pay the woman instead of the bar deal, but a lot have not. You still have to pay before you leave the club. Are you really doing that with clubs in AC or are you talking specifically for freelancers? If you are talking about the bars in AC please name them. I'm curious.Just tell the girl to tell the mamasan or you tell the mamasan directly that you will send the money with the girl tomorrow. It seems like many punters feel obligated to pay before just as others feel obligated to tip.

PeeMan
05-22-15, 18:55
P.S.: Just had my first runner. She left 15 minutes back. She was the door girl for the night at Red Bar, a girl named Lynn. 2. 4 k BF + 300 LD + 330 dinner room service. It started well and playfully but I had a hard time keeping my hard on due to my not keeping well, and then she was too loose for me to feel any great sensation, although her puss and labia were fresh and not battered with loose folds of skin. I had told her I was checking out at 12 pm tomorrow so she guessed I wouldn't catch her tomorrow. I also refused to tip her waitress and when she insisted I left 10 p and that ticked her off so much she went in after Lynn to plot this perhaps. She said there was no mamasan. Maybe this should have been an advance warning not to pay upfront. Said she just remembered she had to send money to her kid via Cebuana or whatever and Sunday would be closed.

I am not too worked up to go back to the bar and demand a refund, as I wasnt really going to enjoy the repeat sex tomorrow in any case, besides it will be that vengeful waitress posing as a mamasan who is not going to help.

Peeman.

BrainDrain
05-22-15, 22:04
so the family don't know they are working in a bar, so ask in advance and take them out earlier. Also they will ask what hotel you are in, mostly so they don't run into friends or family working there.!Last time walking back into the ABC with my latest barfine I joked to her that she probably well known all of the doormen and staff. I assume that locals all know everyone.

Turns out the doorman was her brother-in-law.

Enjoy.

Sxxxx
05-22-15, 23:52
Just tell the girl to tell the mamasan or you tell the mamasan directly that you will send the money with the girl tomorrow...New modus operandi noted.

Mr Enternational
05-23-15, 03:04
Last time walking back into the ABC with my latest barfine I joked to her that she probably well known all of the doormen and staff. I assume that locals all know everyone.

Turns out the doorman was her brother-in-law.

Enjoy.Once I picked up a chick from High Society and one of the bouncers was her cousin. She introduced me and had to tell him which hotel I was staying at and when we were there he called to make sure everything was okay. Had me thinking it was one of those setups people talk about. Creepy.

Dg8787
05-23-15, 03:52
Just tell the girl to tell the mamasan or you tell the mamasan directly that you will send the money with the girl tomorrow. It seems like many punters feel obligated to pay before just as others feel obligated to tip.
I am confused on the tip. Do you tip the waitress 10 pesos or not?

Osuul
05-23-15, 07:29
Many people have written about how to kill the day time hours in Angeles City. After you kick out your bar fine at 9. 00 am, what do you do until 8. 00 pm before hitting the bars again? Here's my two cents worth:

1. Have breakfast at your hotel (1-hour).

2. Do your emails, attend to work matters back home, change money (2 hours).

3. Have a legit massage (1 hour).

4. Lunch anywhere (1 hour).

5. Have a foot massage (1 hour).

6. Walk to SM Clark Mall and browse the shops. Play spot the off-duty WL (2 hours).

7. Go to one of the gyms in AC and burn off those SMs and Jollie Bees (2 hours).

8. Read a book (1 hour).

9. Back to your room for a shower before heading out again (1 hour).No afternoon nap?

Sxxxx
05-23-15, 09:29
Once I picked up a chick from High Society and one of the bouncers was her cousin. She introduced me and had to tell him which hotel I was staying at and when we were there he called to make sure everything was okay. Had me thinking it was one of those setups people talk about. Creepy.More likely her pimp.

Nolz7
05-23-15, 10:30
After agreeing to LT she then gets a phone call in the room after about 2 hours in. She explains that her best friend is going overseas blah blah and wants to go to her farewell party blah blah blah. Could she now leave?Same scam happened to me with a pretty gal from Angels bar.

Engine Driver
05-23-15, 12:44
I have a couple of questions which other more learned punters might be able to assist with:

1. Has anyone here been game enough to bar fine one of the stunners at Doll House? I'm talking about the glamazons who look like they have stepped out of fashion shoot. They wear themed outfits and are always on stage doing nice routines. If so, what was the experience like? I'd be too scared to even go near one of them. I wonder why they bother being bar girls when you would expect to see them on the arm of a famous dude.

2. This is slightly icky question, but one that needs an answer to help us during the interview phase. Do the girls get days off to attend to their, er, monthly biological issues or do they have to work through them?

Red Dogger
05-23-15, 12:47
Seems that the normal pattern is that girl leaves around nine in the morning, you then go to get a new girl at eight in the evening. Takes you a couple of hours to get a new girl, so you have company for about eleven hours a day. Which is quite a lot, but suppose you want more?

Suppose you want a girl available at all hours, or at least for longer hours?

One guy posted that he got his girls to be "pimpettes", to get new girls for him.

In Pattaya I found that all day cost only moderately more than "long time", sometimes less, but made it difficult to continually get new girls. Tended to become very long time.

Engine Driver
05-23-15, 12:49
No afternoon nap?Sorry, what a fool I was to think that any punter would want to work out at the gym in AC. Most of them are so overweight or so old that they would die the minute they started any cardio work out. Please substitute Point 7 with 'Take a nap - 2 hours'.

Switched
05-23-15, 15:08
2. This is slightly icky question, but one that needs an answer to help us during the interview phase. Do the girls get days off to attend to their, er, monthly biological issues or do they have to work through them?Can't help with the first issue, but the second is a big fat no. Girls are lucky to have 1 day off a week, let alone take a week off for their cycle.

Most bars view the girls as assets and even if they are menstruating, guys can still buy them drinks and attract more customers as the bar has the appearance of being full of women. Even if a girl is able to squeeze 2 LD's in a shift, it pays their daily wage so it does not make business sense to give them time off.

I recommend that you always ask about a girls cycle at the beginning if you are thinking of bar fining someone. This has saved me time and money in the past.

Mr Enternational
05-23-15, 19:07
Besides what Switched said, they can put a sponge up inside their pussy and you would never know the difference. That is how it is done here in Thailand. They sell them at pharmacies and salons. I don't know if AC girls are on to that though.

Dg8787
05-23-15, 19:40
Mens or menstration are the words the girls understand. "Are you on your mens?" Is the polite way to ask. Just after "have you taken your lunch / dinner yet. " Most girls do not understand "period, Aunt Flo, time of the month" or other words to that effect.

The girls do not take days off unless they are having painful menses. I have never known an AC girl to use a sponge anytime of the month for sex let alone for mens. I have had girls that started spotting or some thought they had finished their mens and was spotting during. One time I had to pay the hotel 1200 pesos for ruining the sheet and mattress pad with a bloody mess. Have to admit she was worth it! Always bring a red towel and hydrogen peroxide when you monger.

Not all is lost after buying a LD and she tells you she is on her mens, ask her to recommend a friend, after all you have already given her your requirements. On a few occasions I have had the menstrating BG go talk to her friends and come back with qualified candidates without buying any more drinks. And I have gotten real good satisfucktion from this. Best to tip the BG and waitress as the new girl is looking for a thumbs up from them as you are leaving for a bloodless action packed evening!

Dg8787
05-23-15, 20:01
Seems that the normal pattern is that girl leaves around nine in the morning, you then go to get a new girl at eight in the evening. Takes you a couple of hours to get a new girl, so you have company for about eleven hours a day. Which is quite a lot, but suppose you want more?

Suppose you want a girl available at all hours, or at least for longer hours?

One guy posted that he got his girls to be "pimpettes", to get new girls for him.

In Pattaya I found that all day cost only moderately more than "long time", sometimes less, but made it difficult to continually get new girls. Tended to become very long time.Simple if you want the same girl. Just tell her you will BF her again and to stay. That will give you another day with her.

The perimeter bars open around 11 or noon. You can BF them for a few hours or more. Most perimeter girls living with their family will want to be home by 11 pm or midnight.

Pantot
05-23-15, 20:52
Anyone know of secure storage facility in Angeles?

I go to the Phils 3 or 4 times a year and I am always bringing the same gear and clothes with me and it would be nice to just stow everything. I travel to the provinces but AC would be the most ideal location. I am sure I could find something in the Manila metro area and if nothing is available in Angeles maybe something near to NAIA would work for me. I just try to avoid Metro Manila at all. Even a locker in a health club would work if it were a decent size. I wouldn't leave anything of real value there nothing that it would kill me if it got swiped but security would be a must. Looking for something I could just pay a yearly lease on. I used to have a mini storage in Miami here in the states and it worked out well for me it was a 5' cube. That would be an ideal size, but smaller could work as well.

Lou32
05-23-15, 21:44
I have a couple of questions which other more learned punters might be able to assist with:

1. Has anyone here been game enough to bar fine one of the stunners at Doll House? I'm talking about the glamazons who look like they have stepped out of fashion shoot. They wear themed outfits and are always on stage doing nice routines. If so, what was the experience like? I'd be too scared to even go near one of them. I wonder why they bother being bar girls when you would expect to see them on the arm of a famous dude.

2. This is slightly icky question, but one that needs an answer to help us during the interview phase. Do the girls get days off to attend to their, er, monthly biological issues or do they have to work through them?I'm a newbie with only one trip under my belt but I like your Dollhouse question. The true model looking girls seemed to look like Korean models which I learned was the preferred look of their (supposedly) biggest customer base: the Koreans.

The only barfined girls I saw walking past on the street while I ate at Kokomos at, like, 4 in the afternoon were "magazine cover" level hotties on the arm of what looked like Korean computer programmers (sorry for the stereotyping). I knew I should have gotten into computer programming!! I got a kick out of the "baller" Korean guys in the Dollhouse but I was a wee bit jealous of the attention they received from the 10s as well.

Engine Driver
05-24-15, 02:30
I'm a newbie with only one trip under my belt but I like your Dollhouse question. The true model looking girls seemed to look like Korean models which I learned was the preferred look of their (supposedly) biggest customer base: the Koreans.

The only barfined girls I saw walking past on the street while I ate at Kokomos at, like, 4 in the afternoon were "magazine cover" level hotties on the arm of what looked like Korean computer programmers (sorry for the stereotyping). I knew I should have gotten into computer programming!! I got a kick out of the "baller" Korean guys in the Dollhouse but I was a wee bit jealous of the attention they received from the 10s as well.Yes, I think you are spot on with your answer. Many of the girls have said the Koreans are crazy spenders and throw money at them. It is not uncommon for a Korean geek to barfine 3 or 4 hotties just to go bar hopping. He will then pick one to take back to the room and by that time he is too drunk to do anything. Which of course suits the '10' just fine. Sorry for the racial stereotyping, but many girls have said the Koreans have tiny peckers and so their job is so much easier in the event he is up for some action. I'm sure he then tips another 5 K when us mere mortals think we are generous when we tip 500 php.

This perfectly explains why the glamazons at Doll House don't seem too concerned about working the room. Two or three Koreans a month is all they need. There is one girl at Doll House who is apparently a splitting image of a famous Filipino TV soapie queen.

BeachBoy46
05-24-15, 03:28
I am here at fields ave for my second night now. Based on some postings here I trusted the mamasan and paid 2. 4 k for an EWR upfront (she even brought an official looking form thus titled and scribbled a signature hastily in front of me) after having a great time with a foxy looking thing from HiQ. I believe this is the norm at some places while at others you pay the gal. At least I vaguely recall reading this somewhere in the last 15 pages. She kept the commitment until 12 pm today instead of the agreed upon lunch time. But that's more because I lost my "power" and began feeling dull heavy and under the weather and got her bored with my less than enthusiastic morning performance.

I bar-hopped about 7 to 8 places last night. Almost all the places from Dollshouse to Gecko to Rhapsody, Shipwrecked and many others my beer laden stupor won't allow me to remember, had very sad looking gals. I mean wasting bodies because of their night shift and poor diet. I was at the fag end of my bar hopping stamina when I found this dreamy eyed sweetness of a door gal whom I instantly grabbed around the waist and dragged her into HiQ for an interview. She said she didn't do ass so I asked her playfully what she did best. When she remained silent unsure how to answer I suggested BJ? No she said. Not even that? I don't like she said. I had to let her go. Even as I interviewed her this foxy bundle of enthusiasm had been making eyes at me from the dance floor. I was at the extreme corner of the bar but we had established enough rapport in the 15 minutes In interviewed the 1st gal and her intent to find a customer and make him happy was clear. She thrilled me with her tounge flicking it teasingly from the nape of my neck to the ear, as she gyrated to the music and even pulled up my T-shirt to nibble my nipple a few times all the while keeping a playful happy-go-lucky demeanor. That's it. I was sold.

The previous night in BKK I was tired from a 11h flight and ended picking up a sad (in retrospect) 5/10 FL from Amazonia. This is prolly the 5th or 6 the time in my mongering vacations I let the darkness of the ambient lighting and the beer defeat my own judgment. She was a kisser though and we spent more time kissing than banging her puss. My 2nd night in Angels I had resolved to find one strictly above 5'6" with ample booties and hooters. The HiQ gal made me drop that idea just for the sheer fun factor of her company. Look for a gal named MaiMai with slanted Japanese eyes and a birthmark next to an eye. Yes she's half Jap, and for a mother of a boy and a working bar gal has an incredibly clean puss. I spend a good 30 minutes dining at the Y. She is a receiver and loves her cleat dealt with In a demanding fashion. Only that I believe my being under the weather today has to do with the bacteria at her Y. This is the umpteenth time I have felt something hitting hitting my throat even as I dined at the Y - Even with my regular girlfriend, and felt unwell the next day. Never had an STI though.

BTW she demanded a tip while leaving and I handed her 300. She looked mad at the measly amount and said not even 500? I normally take 1000. I reminded her of the breakfast room service and bar fine. She left in a huff reading my room number at the door with an attitude of revenge. Otherwise she was really a great gal to have throughout.

Cheers.

P.S.: pardon the lack of punctuation and quotes. Mobiles and long posts are anthetical to each other.

Peeman.Help me out. Which bar is this Meimei from. I can't work out what HiQ is. Thanks for helping this slow old prick. BB.

Lefeu
05-24-15, 04:26
Not all is lost after buying a LD and she tells you she is on her mens, ask her to recommend a friend, after all you have already given her your requirements. On a few occasions I have had the menstrating BG go talk to her friends and come back with qualified candidates without buying any more drinks. And I have gotten real good satisfucktion from this. Best to tip the BG and waitress as the new girl is looking for a thumbs up from them as you are leaving for a bloodless action packed evening!Excellent advice DG. That makes perfect sense. I would assume that if she brings you a good chick, you would come back for her another time. This happened to me in Pattaya, and I went back to the original girl a few days later.

Dg8787
05-24-15, 04:55
Excellent advice DG. That makes perfect sense. I would assume that if she brings you a good chick, you would come back for her another time. This happened to me in Pattaya, and I went back to the original girl a few days later.Last month I went to see a perimeter BG that I had taken out before. She had started her mens so she had me BF 4 different friends for the next 4 days. They all performed well and the last girl was my favorite as she was more responsive and would dig her nails in my back as she was climaxing intensely. I tactfully had girl 4 come back on day 5 with with the original girl. No 3 some as they took turns while the other one was waiting in the cr. Great to have a tablet for them to use while they are waiting!

JayHighFive
05-24-15, 13:38
Good information.


For newbies visiting Angeles City, here is some advice on what to do in the bars.

The purpose of buying a lady drink is give you an opportunity to interview the girl. Remember that this is a business transaction and it's perfectly OK to discuss the sensitive issues up front before paying the barfine and then being disappointed in the room. Don't be shy. The questions you should ask every bar girl at the interview are:

1. Will you spend all night with me in my room?

2. Do you do blow job?

3. Are you a cherry girl?

4. Are you on your menses?

5. How long have you been in Angeles?

Only take the girl if you are satisfied with the answers.

Don't scrimp on the lady drink. Better to pay 150 PHP for the drink than 2,500 PHP for the bar fine and to find out she won't suck your cock.

Personally, I never seek out the girl. I wait for a girl to come to me. Better chance of a good outcome that way.

Let's face it, most of us are overweight, out of shape, middle aged has beens. No 19-year old girl is going to find us physically attractive, despite what you might think or what they might say. They only want the contents of your wallet.

Sir Lancelot
05-24-15, 23:43
Has anyone here been game enough to bar fine one of the stunners at Doll House? I'm talking about the glamazons who look like they have stepped out of fashion shoot. They wear themed outfits and are always on stage doing nice routines. If so, what was the experience like?


This perfectly explains why the glamazons at Doll House don't seem too concerned about working the room. Two or three Koreans a month is all they need. There is one girl at Doll House who is apparently a splitting image of a famous Filipino TV soapie queen.I presume you mean the 'spotlight girls' who wear different outfits and take it in turns slow-dancing on their own at the front of the stage? If so, yes, I bar-fined one on my recent trip (3000 pesos). She was a pretty little thing with a great body, but the sex was a bit mechanical. We got back to my room and she said that her phone was low on charge so could she go out and get a charger. She came back twenty minutes later with a chicken wrap and a dress she'd just bought herself! She tried it on and started dancing in front of the mirror while singing "I'm sexy and I know it". Haha.

Incidentally, I'm not Korean, I'm a 40 year old British guy. I look after myself, dress smartly, smile a lot, maybe that helped. My friend (British, in his 40's) also bar-fined one of the 'spotlight girls' and his experience was similar to mine. She was a spectacular looking girl, a real trophy fuck, but didn't quite provide the girlfriend experience you get from the majority of girls in Angeles. My friend and I got chatting with another of the spotlight girls, in my opinion the standout girl in Dollhouse (she's featured heavily on their website) and at 1 am she was wearing her casual clothes having returned from an earlier bar-fine. It's not uncommon for the best looking girls to be more prone to doing runners. I presumed she had been bar-fined near the start of her shift, probably by a Korean (who like to conduct their business as early as possible) and spent four hours with him before making her excuses and leaving.

This is what I wrote in my recent diary:

"There was a catwalk show in which 15 girls lined up at the back of the stage and took it in turns parading around. I saw XXX who I bar-fined on my first night in Angeles. She looked sexy and I fondly recalled her riding me as I held her firm tits. A couple of minutes later XXX strutted her stuff on stage. She was an absolute stunner, a 10/10 without question. Macca and I clapped and cheered as she walked around the stage and she pulled a tongue to us by way of thanks. I noticed that a lot of customers followed her with their eyes as she left the stage and sat back down next to Macca. She was a star girl for sure. She was funny too. She told Macca "I'm better than other pussy and you better know that dickhead".

Fastpiston
05-25-15, 02:43
Mens or menstration are the words the girls understand. "Are you on your mens?" Is the polite way to ask. Just after "have you taken your lunch / dinner yet. " Most girls do not understand "period, Aunt Flo, time of the month" or other words to that effect.

The girls do not take days off unless they are having painful menses. I have never known an AC girl to use a sponge anytime of the month for sex let alone for mens. I have had girls that started spotting or some thought they had finished their mens and was spotting during. One time I had to pay the hotel 1200 pesos for ruining the sheet and mattress pad with a bloody mess. Have to admit she was worth it! Always bring a red towel and hydrogen peroxide when you monger.

Not all is lost after buying a LD and she tells you she is on her mens, ask her to recommend a friend, after all you have already given her your requirements. On a few occasions I have had the menstrating BG go talk to her friends and come back with qualified candidates without buying any more drinks. And I have gotten real good satisfucktion from this. Best to tip the BG and waitress as the new girl is looking for a thumbs up from them as you are leaving for a bloodless action packed evening!Bedsheets: just take off and wash scrub stained part only in cold running water and simple soap. Mattress: just clean with wet towel with cold water & soap. Turn on fan to dry if you have done. I have had some major blood stains to deal with and after this could not see anything. It is important to deal with blood stains immediately. Best to have a colored towel in travels to deal with this. Wer.

Engine Driver
05-25-15, 02:44
I presume you mean the 'spotlight girls' who wear different outfits and take it in turns slow-dancing on their own at the front of the stage? If so, yes, I bar-fined one on my recent trip (3000 pesos). She was a pretty little thing with a great body, but the sex was a bit mechanical. We got back to my room and she said that her phone was low on charge so could she go out and get a charger. She came back twenty minutes later with a chicken wrap and a dress she'd just bought herself! She tried it on and started dancing in front of the mirror while singing "I'm sexy and I know it". Haha.

Incidentally, I'm not Korean, I'm a 40 year old British guy. I look after myself, dress smartly, smile a lot, maybe that helped. My friend (British, in his 40's) also bar-fined one of the 'spotlight girls' and his experience was similar to mine. She was a spectacular looking girl, a real trophy fuck, but didn't quite provide the girlfriend experience you get from the majority of girls in Angeles. My friend and I got chatting with another of the spotlight girls, in my opinion the standout girl in Dollhouse (she's featured heavily on their website) and at 1 am she was wearing her casual clothes having returned from an earlier bar-fine. It's not uncommon for the best looking girls to be more prone to doing runners. I presumed she had been bar-fined near the start of her shift, probably by a Korean (who like to conduct their business as early as possible) and spent four hours with him before making her excuses and leaving.

This is what I wrote in my recent diary:

"There was a catwalk show in which 15 girls lined up at the back of the stage and took it in turns parading around. I saw XXX who I bar-fined on my first night in Angeles. She looked sexy and I fondly recalled her riding me as I held her firm tits. A couple of minutes later XXX strutted her stuff on stage. She was an absolute stunner, a 10/10 without question. Macca and I clapped and cheered as she walked around the stage and she pulled a tongue to us by way of thanks. I noticed that a lot of customers followed her with their eyes as she left the stage and sat back down next to Macca. She was a star girl for sure. She was funny too. She told Macca "I'm better than other pussy and you better know that dickhead".Sir Lancelot, thank you for your insight. It's fascinating. If the girl had left the room to 'get her charger', I would have written her off as runner. Glad she came back with the chicken wrap and new dress. For me, I'm happy to stick the '7's' at the big bars as there's better chance of a GFE. Also, how many egos can you fit into a hotel room in AC? Haha.

Engine Driver
05-25-15, 02:58
Good information.This was written before my latest trip. The bar fines at all the big Fields Walking Street bars are PHP 3,000 and LD's are between PHP 250 - 300. If you want a cheaper experience, then go to the Perimeter bars, where the bar fines are sub PHP 2,000.

If you decide to bar fine a girl, please remember to tip her waitress. You don't want to come across as a cheap charlie as the night will be off to a bad start. Tip for the waitress is say PHP 50 (or little more than a dollar in your home currency! If a girl comes and massages your back for 15 minutes during your interview, tip her PHP 20. It's loose change for us, so don't worry about it.

Once you have interviewed the girl and are happy with the answers, before reaching for your wallet and laying down three blue notes, please call the mamasan one more time. Explain to the mamasan you are going to take the girl all night and will let her go at 9. 00 am. Ask the mamasan to confirm if the girl is happy with this arrangement. Mamasan will then ask the girl in Tagalog and will confirm that it's OK. I have found that if the girl agrees in front of the mamasan, she is not then going to do a runner. However, some bars don't have a mamasan and are managed by a Korean bean counter. I suggest you bar fine elsewhere.

Engine Driver
05-25-15, 03:39
This advice is for newbies travelling to AC. Here is a list of things to take:

1. Condoms from your home country. The local condoms in Philippines will not be big enough for Western size cock. I suggest you bring plenty of supplies you are familiar with from your country. Never, ever fuck a girl without a condom. Many AC girls are more than willing to go bareback, but if you do contract something nasty, how are you going to explain it to your wife or G / F back home?

2. KY Jelly. To get your Western size cock into tight Pinay pussy, you will most likely need some lube. Not many girls seem to know about it and I'm always asked what I'm smearing on my cock before I enter pussy.

3. Viagra. Despite what you think, if you are over 40 and are going to fuck a different girl every night for a week, you will probably need some help. Please bring some from you own country. Never, ever buy Viagra or Cialis from the street. Do you actually think that a sophisticated pharmaceutical company is going to trust a street urchin to sell their product? The street products are probably made by some 'cook' in the back streets of Manila and pushed out with a home pill press. You have no clue of what is actually in these street sold products. Think, do you want to mess with your vital organs by taking some street drug?? Common sense seems to go out the window the minute some Western dude steps off the plane at NAIA. If you can't get Viagra from your doctor in your home country, then all is not lost. Manson Drug Store in Field Avenue AC sells generic Viagra (Sildenfil) made by a reputable lab. It's called Right Med and comes in 50 MG and 100 MG strength. One 50 MG tab costs PHP 70 and 100 MG costs PHP 140. No prescription is necessary. Just ask the friendly staff and they will help out. This generic is perfectly OK.

PukiMonster
05-25-15, 04:46
...Once you have interviewed the girl and are happy with the answers, before reaching for your wallet and laying down three blue notes, please call the mamasan one more time. Explain to the mamasan you are going to take the girl all night and will let her go at 9. 00 am. Ask the mamasan to confirm if the girl is happy with this arrangement. Mamasan will then ask the girl in Tagalog and will confirm that it's OK. I have found that if the girl agrees in front of the mamasan, she is not then going to do a runner. However, some bars don't have a mamasan and are managed by a Korean bean counter. I suggest you bar fine elsewhere.Thanks for the tips.

I am not a total newbie there, but it has been about 5 years since my one and only trip to AC (and which was before I knew about ISG). I am currently planning for a trip to AC in the near future.

Is it now OK, as Mr Enternational suggests, to "tell the girl to tell the mamasan or you tell the mamasan directly that you will send the money with the girl tomorrow"? I have read back about 30 pages here and did not see any posts where punters said they paid the barfine the next day (or did I misunderstand).

I am a relative newbie, and don't want to end up in a back alley with my life force ebbing away with numerous stab wounds.

Puki

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:03
April 28 (Day 5: Tuesday) Continued from Manila, Philippines.


We arrived in Lewis Grand (LGH) by 2 pm. The taxi ride from Manila has been extremely comfortable. We decided to use the same chap for the ride back to NAIA on Sunday. We checked into LGH. Some beautiful women working as trainees and they took their own time checking us in giving us ample time to seek some smiles from them. Has anyone been lucky in taking out a receptionist from LGH? Some of these girls were really good looking.

We went to Kokomos and got ourselves a hearty meal. Plan was to hit Ponytails first being recommended by so many members. We went in and got ourselves a seat near the entrance. Ordered our SMLs. There were approx. 10 odd women on the stage and a few sitting on the right had corner. But none that could catch our fancy. We hung around for some time, watched the sequence of shows wherein dancers came on stage then all girls walked across the bar so that mongers like us could have a good look at them. One of the dancer moving around tables looked interesting with a good body but seemed uninterested in any of the men sitting around. I decided to hold my horses. It seemed to us that we were late and the beautiful ones were already barfined. It was already 5. 30 pm and we headed back to hotel thinking about hitting Walking Street (WS) / FA (Fields Avenue) earlier in the evening.

We took a walk from Hotel around 7 pm to scope out the entire road up to FA. The first bar we hit was Doll House. This place is well past its prime and they must do something about it. Big name, long history, but pretty disappointing collection of women. We finished our beer and went across to Kings Landing. Decent collection, Cris liked one girl and bar fined her. Next stop was Viking. We settled down and saw one of the best collection of women so far in AC. I unfortunately took recommendation from the waitress, Diana and she pointed me to a smiling girl in a red dress called Michelle. I called her over and decided to bar fine her (2500 pesos). She was the rare one in the crowd with good set of knockers on her. Difficult to miss in the lineup. When we got out we were famished. We stopped for dinner at the Korean restaurant called Oppa opposite the bar. Food was good. It was 11.30 pm and we didn't want to head back to the Hotel so soon. We went to High Society, barely 10 people inside, so we had a drink each and didn't have the patience to wait for crowd to turn up which wouldn't have been before 2 or 3 am. We went back to the hotel. First trike ride, 100 pesos flat.

When we got into the room things got quite hot. Michelle took her top off and revealed the biggest set of boobs I have seen on a Pinay so far. She lay on the bed asking me to fuck her. I knew it was going to be a pure PSE session which I do enjoy once in a while. Michelle was from Davao, around 4'11, sweet face and good bum but her USP was her amazing set of boobs. I got on top of her and wanted to DFK but there was one problem. She had really bad breath and it just put me off. Anyways since she was here I had to finish one pop at least. Bar fine was paid and it didn't make sense to send her back and then go out on hunt for another lady. I asked her to clean up. She took her own time to shower, clicked some pics inside and posted on her FB. OAs she had added me as a friend in the bar I immediately could see her uploaded pics. Once she was done and out I showered quickly and came back. We tried to initiate some action but her breath was not something I could handle. I just stopped and told her that I was tired and maybe we can screw in the morning. We went to bed. I got up with raging hard on rolled up to her and got hold of her ample bosom I got good feel of them which awakened her. She didn't waste time and turned over to me, wanted to kiss me which I didn't. I guided her to my dick and got her to suck me off. Got rubber on and entered her from behind. I was spooning her so I could get a good handful of her boobs and at the same time avoid her bad breath. I finished quickly without any change in positions or stunts and no DFK either. Since I had no intention of keeping this girl around any longer I told her I had to leave now. I tipped her 100 pesos and off she went.

Overall experience 4/10 purely due to bad breath.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:04
April 29 (Day 6: Wednesday)


Cris's gal told him that we had a free shuttle service for pickup and drop to all key spots in AC. We were happy that someone made us aware about it because neither had we read about it nor the hotel receptionists told us about it. We went to Kokomos for breakfast a 12 pm. We had planned to go to the AC shooting range. The shuttle dropped us at Kokomo2 for free but charged us 200 pesos each way to the firing range and back. Not bad given that it was quite a ride and it was blazing hot outside. We got back to Hotel around 4 pm. Rested for some time and decided to hit Ponytails again. We went in at around 4. 30 pm. There was quantity of girls available, around 20 odd girls on stage and around 10 in the sitting area. Bar was packed and we could only get the single chairs facing the stage. I did zoom in one 1 girl, she was cute and was smiling back at me. Cris however couldn't find anyone to his liking. We decided to move on. Didn't want to go bar from bar with my barfine in tow.

We went to Eruptions next. There were hardly 6 or 7 girls in the front and around 5 in the stage inside at the back. We sat in the front bar. Cris called over one girl he liked. He got busy with her. I couldn't find anyone to my liking. I told him to bar fine her and I could go back to Ponytails and barfine the girl I had liked there. Unfortunately the Eruptions girl: Jo was already barfined for the day. Her customer was going to come anytime and pick her up. We walked around but none of the small bars interested us so we walked towards FA. We are both rock fans so Angelwitch was the obvious choice we had in mind. Our visit in Nana Plaza has always been extremely entertaining as far as music is concerned.

We seated ourselves near the stage. Few girls on stage but not to our liking and few were moving around tables mixing with customers. I liked one and called her over for a drink. I instantly took a liking to and. She was from Leyte, 5'0 with Korean-Japanese features. Decent body, small breasts, must be A size but a very sweet smile. I decided to barfine her whereas Cris had also found a gal. Barfine was 3000 pesos, highest so far. We settled our tab and went back to hotel. We had few drinks from the JD we had brought along. It was 7. 30 pm and too early to go to any disc or dinner. We finished few drinks while and had her mango juice. The other gal didn't mind few pegs of JD. And didn't patronize alcohol. First girl I had encountered who was working in the bar did not consume alcohol. We retired to our room, usual shower. And was slightly thick around the middle which seemed a natural feature with the girls we had seen in Philippines so far. She had a clean body without any stretch marks. She was 20 years old without any baby. She was a good kisser, we had good sex in different positions. She had a good bum hence I enjoyed her well in doggy and released. It was a relaxing feeling with her around. We lay in bed for some time and exchanged numbers. Unfortunately she didn't have a smartphone or a Facebook profile hence we could only text. We cleaned ourselves and decided to head out for dinner and partying at 11 pm. We took shuttle to FA from the hotel. Once we reached I told and that we would also be going to disco. She suddenly decided to go home and change and come back. She was wearing a T and slacks. I thought it was ok for the evening but who can argue with a girl, it wasn't going to be me. She said that she will return in 30 minutes and will text me once she reaches FA. We decided to hit few bars in the meantime but were hungry so we went to Kokomos again and fed ourselves. Cris had his girl in tow and both seem to have got tuned very well to each other. So we walked further down and decided to get into Texas. Barely few girls on stage. The owner was hanging around and joined us. We instantly connected as he had stayed in Singapore for couple of years before moving to AC and chatted with him for some time. He told us that majority of his girls had been barfined and we should come early the next day. 30 minutes gone and no message from and. Cris and I thought that maybe we had a runner. We decided to hang around some more and wait for her. We checked with Cris's gal whether and was going to come back. She told us that and had recently joined Angelwitch and she didn't know her that well nor did they talk much with each other. My alarm bells were ringing.

We also had the big bars on our visit list hence walked to Atlantis as we had walked back to the beginning of WS and got ourselves seated on the left side corner on the tables before the sofa lines. I had decided that if I don't get a message from and or if she doesn't show up I will bar fine another girl after an hour was over. I sent her a txt asking where she was and didn't get any response. There was a good collection of ladies in Atlantis and sub consciously I had started scouting for my next barfine. In the meantime the massage lady had already got herself over me and was at her job. I didn't mind as it was relaxing me. I spotted a girl in shorts and was instantly drawn to her. I could get her name from the badge she was wearing and was contemplating in my mind about barfining her. Suddenly my phone lit up and I had a txt from and that she was waiting at entrance of WS. I asked her to come inside Atlantis. She was there in a jiffy. I had to postpone my plans of barfining the cute young girl for the next day. We settled our tab and left. I asked and if she wanted to eat something. Apparently she had carried food on her way to her room and was not hungry anymore. We went to High Society around 1 am. Place seemed lively. There was cover charge of 200 pesos for men, girls were free entry as usual. We managed to get space on a table near the corner of the bar and danced for some time. And didn't visit disco often it seemed and she was enjoying being there. She held me throughout the time we were there and only let me go to men's room. I likedit. I am a sucker for GFE and enjoy such situations. There were lot of ladies available and some were really good. We had some options if we wanted but decided to leave it for another night. We still had 3 more nights in AC. Suddenly a bald gentleman swarmed in and the security guys were making way for him pushing people around. This gentleman got himself seated on to the first sofa on the dance floor near the bar. Few girls were waving towards him and requesting whether they could join him at his table. Seemedan important personality in the AC night scene. Two bodyguards holed up near our table covering his back. Cris's gal then shared with us that he was the owner of ABC hotel and a big man in AC. We hung around till 4 am finished few rounds of SML and decided to call it a night. Shuttle came to pick us in 5 minutes and we were back to our room. Another round of shower and a slow love making session relaxed me greatly. We went to bed in each other's arms. The next thing I remember is my being awakened by Hotel phone ringing. I answered it and it was Cris on the other line. It was 12.30 pm and his gal had left. He wanted me to join him for breakfast. I still had and in bed. I woke her up and said that I had to go for breakfast and would she join me. She declined and was also in a hurry to go back as she had to report to work at 3 pm. I was not sure about barfining her that day and wanted to explore more bars. We had not even scratched the surface of AC. I let her go with a 200 peso tip.

Overall experience 7. 5/10.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:05
April 30 (Day 7: Thursday)


We eventually went to Kokomos for breakfast at 2 pm. We finished our breakfast and decided to walk back to Ponytails. We got in at around 3. 30 pm. Same set of girls that we had seen earlier day, had a pint of SML each, and settled out tab. We then went to ShowTime. Awful airconditioning and I thought I would choke. I wanted to go to Atlantis at 7 pm opening time as I had in mind to barfine the young cute girl I had seen earlier night.

We eventually reached Atlantis at 7. 30 pm thanks to the crazy traffic all along FA. We were seated on the sofa in front of the stage. There were approx. 50+ girls on stage and another 25 seating on the balcony. My eyes were searching for the cute gal Grace. We were seating below the stage level hence not getting a good view of the girls on stage and seated above in the balcony. Few Korean men were throwing wads of pesos on the floor making the girls go crazy. We decided to immediately change table and got ourselves seated on the table above the sofa line. I would recommend this for anyone visiting Atlantis as this gives you a good view of the girls and it's much easier to scout amongst the crowd. The massage lady from earlier night was standing beside me smiling. Iobliged her and asked her if Grace had come in. She asked a few waitresses and massage ladies around and said yes. I looked around but couldn't see her. Then the lineup changed. All girls walked down from the stage around the bar and on way up to the balcony. The girls from Balcony walked down and were up on stage. I liked few girls between both groups but had Grace on my mind. There must have been approx. 75 +girls there and could have easily picked 5 or 6. My shoulders were being massaged in the meantime. Suddenly I saw Grace at the top edge of the balcony. I immediately asked the massage lady to call her. She in turn signaled the mamasan who hit the laser to a few girls before identifying Grace. Within few minutes Grace was at my table. She was extremely cute and sexy when nearer. Got her LD. Got talking to her. She then signaled to a girl saying that she was her sister. My friend liked her and called her over. She then told me that she had another sister who was the eldest and working as a waitress in Atlantis. Grace was all I had thought of and was starting imagine a good night with her. She then told me that at 9 pm she will have to go on stage for the Model show. I was ok as far as she returned back to me. I told her that I would be bar fining her to which she smiled and was ok. She smoked and drank with ease. Suddenly the massage lady whom I had also got a drink seemed unhappy. Grace went onto the stage at 9 pm. The massage lady signaled to me with her hands that Grace drank a lot. But I was ready to ignore any advice at that point in time. Meanwhile Cris had got talking to Grace's elder sister, the middle one. He found out from her that Grace was a Model girl and that she would get barfined and accompany me to eat or to a disco. She would drink with me and provide me company like a geisha girl however there was no assurance whether she would have sex with me and it was her decision and she would take a call at that time if she was in the mood. She was 19 years old and one of the best models there to which I agreed. Grace got introduced on the stage and the model show went on for 15-20 minutes. She came back and sat with me. Cris signaled me to drop my plans of bar fining her. I had no choice but to listen to him rather than take a chance and get disappointed later in the night. I told Grace that something had come up and I would not be able to barfine her. She was off my table and onto the stage in a jiffy.

Can any forum members confirm on this MO of model girls in Atlantis.


Dejected and disappointed we decided to hit the cluster of bars opposite Paradise beer Garden. We went into bar called No. 7. As soon as we got in the women were clapping and welcoming us inside. The DJ was also welcoming us in vide his microphone. It was a very welcoming environment. I spotted a girl as soon as I got in and called her over. She came and got seated beside me. Her name was Ella. She is the PYT that we rarely come across. I was happy that my evening was getting salvaged. We were back into good mood. Cris also liked anther gal and got her over. The DJ was playing some good rock music basis our requests. The gals each had 1 LDs. We got the DJ a drink. The mamasan also got a drink from us. It was a merry environment. We decided to barfine both the girls and leave. Bar fine was 3000 peso per girl. We settled our tab and got out. It was 9 pm so I wanted to get back to hotel finish a pop then later come back for dinner and spend some time at High Society. The shuttle picked us up. Back I the hotel we had a few drinks. We got ourselves JD with cola and the girls seemed to enjoy it as well. We finished a few pegs and I retired to my room with Ella. As soon as we got in Ella got herself seated on the sofa near the bed and was texting someone. I didn't disturb her and waited for her to finish. She seemed to be really busy so I took a shower and got into bed. I asked her to take a shower and join me but she was busy with her phone. It was irritating me. Suddenly she came and sat beside me on the bed and started crying. I asked her what happened but she didn't reply and went on crying. My alarm bells were ringing again. I txt Cris "Houston we have a problem" he immediately called me and I told him what was happening. He told me to get her out of the room that very instant. I got changed and told her to pick her belongings and follow me out of the room. I asked her if she had an ID, she showed to me and I checked her DOB. Her age was 19 so I relaxed a bit. In the meantime the gal with my friend also met us outside the room and I told her to take Ella and leave. Cris asked me what exactly happened. I told him that the gal was continuously texting and suddenly she came and sat beside me on the bed and broke into tears. We waited for them to get out of the Hotel as the reception calls back when the girl is leaving at LGH. Once they were out of the Hotel we couldn't figure what had just happened and why. It seemed more like a modus operandi followed by these gals. We thought whether we should go back to the bar and report the matter and get our money back.

We were not sure whether this was a stunt pulled by the girls on their own or whether the bar was hand in glove with them. We decided to let go of the matter, approx. 7800 pesos including barfine and all drinks. I would recommend all members to be careful about barfining from this bar "No. 7". I am not sure whether the girls are cons or whether the bar is playing any role in this. I didn't want to waste my time or spoil my mood and trip in finding out hence I let go of the money and the matter.

I seemed to be having a pretty bad day considering the two situations I had been into.

We decide to take a shuttle to WS. We went into Vikings as I had seen some good gals there I wanted to barfine. When we went in I saw Michelle on stage. She smiled at me and I smiled back. Suddenly a laser was pointed at her and she walked towards that table. I felt relief that she was bar fined by someone else who would have not been able to resist her hooters and prayed that he didn't get as disturbed by her bad breath as I was. Another girl I had liked there was on stage. Her name was JC and her badge no was 1551. I asked the waitress to call her over. In the meantime Cris had got another girl called over. JC was nice to talk to and was a pro. She recently had broken with her BF from Singapore. I asked her if she was ok to be bar fined. She asked me whether my friend was barfining the girl he was speaking to. She then told me that girl was her roommate and she will go with me if her friend is going. I checked with my friend and he was indeed bar fining that girl. So we settled out tab and decided to get some food. We went to Paradise beer garden and fed ourselves then walked back to end of WS and took shuttle to Hotel.

We got our shower individually and got into bed. JC was slightly naughty and more of a PSE girl. I found out that she and her roommate often got barfined for a threesome as they would pick each other as partners if anyone wanted a threesome. I was not in mood for a PSE but that quickly changed with this girl on the bed. JC had be sized boobs, good arse and was a good kisser. I had good sex with her. She was flexible and open for all positions. I wasn't looking for anal so didn't ask. We were at it for some time till I finished. JC then told me that she wanted to leave by 7 to which I was ok. I didn't plan on another pop with her. I got up at 10 am and saw JC still sleeping besides me. I woke her up and told her that she had overslept. She asked me to check whether her roommate was still there. I called up Cris and he told me that her roommate had left at 9 am. JC got up and left in a hurry with 100 peso taxi money from me.

Overall experience 7/10.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:06
May 1 (Day 8: Friday)


As usual our day started with breakfast at Kokomos at 1 pm. I had noticed some gals sitting at the end of Kokomoz and were working for Voodoo. I wanted to check this bar so once we finished our breakfast we went in. It seems that Voodoo is one of the few 24 hours bar on the strip. We didn't notice any other nor did we want to find out. We went in and had an SML. We had recently stuffed ourselves so it took some time for us to finish the pint. Gals were pretty poor or average at the best. Cris then told me that he wanted to go to Eruptions and bar fine Jo. He went on. I walked into Shipwrecked. Didn't notice anyone interesting. I went into Body Shop on way back but no one interesting there so went back to hotel. I hit the pool for some time. Then got back to room and called Cris. He was over his first session so I joined him in his room for JD and cola. Met Jo there who was a cute and interesting gal. Cris then told me that Jo had to leave at midnight as she had to go back and take care of her niece so he would be staying back at the hotel and spend time with her. Then I decided to hit FA / WS again as it was nearing 8 pm. I also had to get company for myself.

My plan was to go into bars besides Angelwitch. I had txt and earlier in the evening but had not got any response. Maybe she must had already got barfined as she started her shift at 3 pm. The first bar I went to was Insomnia, few girls on stage, nothing interesting I decided to move on. I went in Brown Sugar, same scene, finished my SML and moved on. I had finished 2 pints in 30 minutes and the way things were going I thought that I could be very drunk before I found a gal. I decided to switch to Orange / Mango Juice. This was to ensure that I just don't walk into a bar and walk out disrespecting the girls or the bar. I got into Club Lancelot next. A strange foul smell hit me as soon as I got in. Smell one comes across in damp or old hotel corridors. Didn't last there long either. Took few sips of Mango juice, settled my tab and left. Next was Crazy House, few sips of orange juice and moved on. I then went to Las Vegas, place was full of Korean men. Bar seemed more oriented to cater to Korean clientele. The MO here was different. They had 4 or 5 gals come up on stage at one time and model around. I saw 3 changes but none struck my fancy. The mamasan was seated beside me and told me that I should come there by 7 pm and will be able to select from the full lineup. It was 11.30 pm now. I walked up to Crystal palace and got a text from Cris who had finished up with Jo and was on way and would join me there. Crystal place was also full of Koreans. There were a few girls on stage and they were also made up to suit Korean taste, in terms of Hair dos and make up. I liked one girl and asked mamasan to call her over. She came over and sat with me, got her a LD. Her name was Louis and she was one of the few extremely beautiful girls I had come across in AC. Her name was Louis. She was a slender gazelle with A sized boobs. I immediately got down to business and asked her if I could barfine her. Louis was a 20 year old gal. She told me that she could join me for ST as she had a baby and she needed to get home to take care of him. I would have really loved to barfine Louis but fate had other plans it seems as I wanted a relaxed session and with baby on her mind to get back to I was not sure if the session with Louis would have been a great one or starfish. In the meantime Cris had joined me and I decided to move on.

We went to Valhalla next. None caught my interest. I liked one waitress and asked her if I could buy her a drink. She was glad and came and sat beside me. I got talking to her and she told me that she cannot go out with me. I appreciated her honesty and enjoyed the drink chatting with her. She had to work till 3 am post which she would be going back to her room. I didn't bother asking her name. We went to Kings landing next. Same set of gals however the girl that Cris had barfined the first night was not there. He was open to bar fining her again as he had a good time with her. We moved on to Texas, same story. Texas was nearing closure as it was almost 2 am. We headed to High Society in hope of finding someone I was looking for. We paid 200 pesos entry fee and got in. There were loads of women. Most of them cougars or average looking. There were a few lookers but already in company of some men. We hung around and finished two pints of SML each but luck did not favour me. Cris was contended as he had his fun for the day hence not too keen unless something fancy caught his eye. I was just not feeling the vibe with the girls available around me. There were many girls to pick but I decided to go and get some sleep. I was too tired and full or beer and juice.

While walking from High society to WS Cris forced me to check out Voodoo. I was too tired and said let's call it a day but he insisted. So we went into Voodoo with the thought of having a quick drink and then heading back to Hotel. However as soon as we entered my eyes caught a small and petite girl. She was joking around and playing with gals on stage. I liked her energy and waved her over for a drink. She came and sat with me. Her name was E. She was really beautiful up close. E must be 4'10 or 4'11 with be sized breasts and a cute little arse. I had to bar fine her. I asked her to which she replied positively. I paid her bar fine of 3000 and we were on way to hotel in no time.

E got into shower as soon as she entered the room. I got in after her and we were on the bed. We got talking. E told me that she was studying in Manila and made trips to AC to fund her education. She was from Manila city and avoided working there for obvious reasons. Her family was based in Quezon City. I didn't want to get into her story at that time and figure out what was true and what was usual script. I kissed her and got her into the mood. She was a sweet girl and responded very well. She couldn't resist talking in between. She told me that she worked in Angel witch, Voodoo and Crazy horse if I remember well as they belonged to the same owner. Depending on where the girls are needed they got moved during their shift. E was extremely responsive and flexible. She gave me a good BBBJ and mounted me after I got the rubber on. She was enjoying it as much as I was. We switched positions into miss and then doggy. I couldn't stretch further and came. We cleaned up and slept. I got up at 1 pm and had to wake up E. She wanted to leave as she had to report back to her shift at 3 pm. Strange that this happened to me twice. Despite feeling the urge for another pop I let her go with 100 peso taxi money.

Overall experience 7. 5/10.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:07
May 2 (Day 9: Saturday)


On the way to FA the earlier evening the shuttle driver had told us to check out the bars after the petrol pump on LGH. I thought that all bars ended on road up to LGH and a few names I had scribbled from this forum were not found. I assumed that those would have been closed. What a big mistake.

We went to Kokomos for the usual breakfast and then decided to go to the bars after LGH, end of perimeter road ones. We reached there around 4 pm. The first bar we went to was Firepit. There were some decent girls on stage. I liked one and called her over. Name was Sarah. Cris didn't find anyone interesting so he went to check out other bar. I got Sarah an LD and got chatting with her. Sarah unfortunately had her periods on and was not going to get bar fined by me. I sat with her for some time and then settled my tab and walked out to join Cris in another bar.

Cris was seated in Ice bar so I followed him there, 2 good looking girls but already bar fined, other were pretty average. We moved on to Candy club, nothing interesting there as well. We moved on to Night moves. I liked one girl there. Invited her over for a drink. Her name was Elle. She was already barfined for the day. Nothing I could do. Bumped into a swede (Scot?) who has been living in Philippines from last 20 years. He blasted about how bad the country had become and was extremely unhappy. He eventually moved on to play pool, seemed a regular visitor to the bar as all girls liked to joke around with him.

It was out last night in Ac and next day Cris was flying back to Singapore and I was moving on to Jakarta for 5 nights of fun. We went back to hotel and decided to hit WS in the evening.

We started out at 7 pm and went to Las Vegas first. Place was crammed with Korean guys. We saw 3 changes of girls and there was only 1 girl who caught my interest. Before I could react she was picked up in a jiffy by a Korean gentleman. We went to Kings landing next, nothing of interest. After that was Stardust. This place had a decent selection of girls. I liked one girl and got mamasan to get her over. She came and sat with me. Her name was Rochelle. I liked her from the moment she sat with me. She was cute and sweet looking small girl. I paid her barfine of 3000 pesos. Cris didn't find anyone to his taste. He suggested we go to Angel witch. I couldn't as I had got a txt from and earlier in evening asking where I was and whether I was going to visit her bar tonight. I was not sure so I had replied her maybe I might. With Rochelle already barfined and with me I couldn't go there. So Cris went to Angel witch alone and I took Rochelle to Phillys for some grub and to wait for Cris to return with a girl. Rochelle and I got talking. She had a baby boy and was 22 years old. She had been working in AC for over a year now. She wanted to go to Manila and find work in a factory or mall. I listened to her story and felt sad but nothing I could do about it. Cris came back after some time with a girl in tow. Being too early for dinner or disco we went to hotel. Had few shots of JD and cola. Incidentally Rochelle also did not drink alcohol. I was wondering whether she was related to or friend of and. We were hungry so instead of doing a session we decided to head out for dinner. We were in mood for Korean food so we went to Jumong. After a sumptuous dinner we went to High Society, paid 200 peso entrance fee per male and got in. The crowd was much better. Some real good lookers around. I was wondering where these girls were yesterday when I was looking for them. We had few drinks and returned back to Hotel.

Rochelle had a bad cold hence we could not indulge into DFK but some good kisses got me into the mood. She gave me a good BJ. Sex was decent and satisfying with her. We lied talking to each other. The ac seemed to be getting to her and worsening her cold so I reduced the cooling so that she could be comfortable. Rochelle was from Luzon. She told me that her cherry was broken by an old American guy she has met on Facebook. She had got her home built with the money she got from him. He dumped her with the child and moved on so she deleted her Fb page and was off social media since then. She indeed was carrying a basic Nokia hand phone with her and gave me her no. I didn't know what to believe. We went to sleep.

Overall experience 7/10.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 16:08
May 3 (Day 10: Sunday)


We got up at 11 am. I didn't feel like having another pop with her so asked Rochelle if she wanted to stick around for breakfast. Rochelle declined and left with 100 peso as taxi money.

This was the big day when the match between Manny and Mayweather was going on. LGH was holding a live screening of the match with 400 peso as ticket charges. We had been hearing about the match since we had landed in Manila etc. Indeed a big day for Philippinos.

We were scheduled to check out at 12 pm but had extended the time till 2 pm for 1 room. We were charged 10% room rate for late checkout which was told to us in advance. We went to Kokomos for our last breakfast together of the trip. The roads were deserted and people were listening to the match on radio or watching outside television shops. The roads wore a deserted look. By the time we finished our breakfast the result were out and people came on the roads in hoards getting back to their business. There was silence on people face. Disappointment of Manny losing the match for whatever reason.

The taxi picked us up at 2 pm and drove us to NAIA. My flight to Jakarta was Cebu pacific 8. 45 pm whereas Cris's flight was Philippine airline 7. 30 pm to Singapore.

On the flight I tried to summarize my experience in AC:


1. There is nothing much to do in AC during daytime. One might choose to go to SM Mall or to Marquee mall but then again what you would do once you get there is worth thinking. We went to neither. The other option would be to laze around in the hotel pool. This is assuming that you are not drinking in the daytime as well. As some member had mentioned in earlier posts that if you have acquired the skill or art of "Doing Nothing" for hours at a stretch during the day then this might be the place for you.

2. I found Manila. AC to be more like Bangkok. Pattaya wherein AC was more like Pattaya with too much quantity but quality was rare. We had to go to several bars before we found a girl to barfine. Yes we were one week millionaires and were looking for best girls available in terms of looks and body. Who doesn't?

3. Beer bellies is a stark reality and majority of the girls had this problem. Can't blame them though. Pinays are also thick around the middle hence slender gazelles were rare to come across.

4. AC and Manila girls actually drank beer or spirits when we got them LD, not like Thai girls who sip on cola and watered down drinks. Maybe this is the reason for their bellies.

5. Girl tantrums were far less or almost nonexistent compared to Thailand. I found Sweet quotient to be quite high amongst girls. I was even surprised to come across girls who didn't drink alcohol or didn't have a smartphone. In Thailand you wouldn't see any girl without a smartphone.

6. Language was definitely an advantage wherein almost all the girls I met spoke decent or understandable English and could understand me as well which made conversation easy.

7. BBBJ and DFK was a given with any girl we barfined and none of them asked or insisted for a CBJ. Where all girls I came across did ask for protected sex. I wonder how the regular members get BB without asking. Not that I wanted any. I did not try or ask for Greek hence wouldn't know about the willingness.

8. We found Kokomos to be an amazing place to hang around for meals, definitely worth a visit for anyone, albeit slight expensive as well. The road front seats can be avoided as you constantly get bugged by vendors on the street and they just keep putting their stuff like flowers or CDS on your table for you to buy.

9. I saw the highest concentration of Korean gentleman in AC. It seemed as if they were the majority visitors to AC. Lot of bars have geared up the women to cater to them. However it didn't impact us on any day. AC has tons of bars for anyone to make a picking on any given night. Alternatively we also saw some Pack of wolves, Indians but mostly from Malaysia. The girls seem to detest them as in Pattaya. I don't expect Indians to get any different treatment here then what they get in Pattaya. Obviously it also depends on the individual as well. Just an observation.

10. I would not recommend AC as a repeat destination just basis of my single 5 day visit. I had also disliked Pattaya over Bangkok on my first visit but after 4 visits I seem to be at home whenever I go there and have now started reducing no of days spent in Bangkok or completely from my last 2 visits.

11. Would I switch to Manila or AC over Thailand, I don't think I will immediately. Thailand is much more developed and well organized comparatively. There are tons of things to do in BKK or even Pattaya comparatively but then it also depends on individual's preferences. Yes AC is slightly cheaper in comparison but then both locations have their own advantages and weaknesses. Hotels are expensive in comparison to Thailand but everything else is cheaper.

12. I have plans to make a solo visit in second half of the year for a few days to AC and Manila and will try to club Subic Bay if time permits. Maybe then I will be slightly sure if I would want to recommend AC to anyone. If not then will surely go to Pattaya.

Continued in Jakarta Thread..

Dg8787
05-25-15, 16:14
Thanks for the tips.

I am not a total newbie there, but it has been about 5 years since my one and only trip to AC (and which was before I knew about ISG). I am currently planning for a trip to AC in the near future.

Is it now OK, as Mr Enternational suggests, to "tell the girl to tell the mamasan or you tell the mamasan directly that you will send the money with the girl tomorrow"? I have read back about 30 pages here and did not see any posts where punters said they paid the barfine the next day (or did I misunderstand).

I am a relative newbie, and don't want to end up in a back alley with my life force ebbing away with numerous stab wounds.

PukiI don't know about the new payment procedure. I myself would not bother with it. I had average one runner in twenty. Now based on referrals from BG's I have zero. I have had 3 runners in the past 2 years and they all claimed their pussy hurt afterwards. All left without asking for a tip or transportation money so I assume they were telling me the truth. One I banged twice before she left but she took me to a different bar and introduce me to 3 of her dorm mates working there. I BF one of them and had an excellent night and morning.

I wouldn't worry about runners as I haven't experienced that many. I would like to hear the "runner's" side of the story! Girls have told me they left dates or wanted to leave because of bad hygiene, smoking, drunkiness along with abuse.

Just remember paying a BF does not guarantee LT even if you get it in writing from the mamasan. The BG can leave anytime.

Just go and enjoy.

ConquerorVal
05-25-15, 18:15
Really, enjoyed your reports, and thank you for putting the effort into posting them. My first visit to Pattaya was somewhat disappointing due to my high expectations, and I left kind of angry. My second visit was amazing. On the other hand, my visit to AC was great right from the start. All the girls I met were spinners, friendly, no fat, no funky pussy or bad breath. Maybe I just lucked out, but I suspect your second visit will be better.

Uncle Volodya
05-25-15, 19:14
2. I found Manila. AC to be more like Bangkok. Pattaya wherein AC was more like Pattaya with too much quantity but quality was rare. We had to go to several bars before we found a girl to barfine. Yes we were one week millionaires and were looking for best girls available in terms of looks and body. Who doesn't?

3. Beer bellies is a stark reality and majority of the girls had this problem. Can't blame them though. Pinays are also thick around the middle hence slender gazelles were rare to come across.

10. I would not recommend AC as a repeat destination just basis of my single 5 day visit. I had also disliked Pattaya over Bangkok on my first visit but after 4 visits I seem to be at home whenever I go there and have now started reducing no of days spent in Bangkok or completely from my last 2 visits.
Great reports man!

I am surprised you did not try Pharaoh's club, especially as it is right next door to HS. I really think they had the hottest girls in AC. By far. I know some of our colleagues (like Natty B) would concur. I took one of the door girls, who was a lovely 20 year old little spinner. Nice tight young body, lovely little boobies, and a tight tummy (no beer belly here -- see pics).). Could not resist hitting her tight little pussy bare back, which she was happy to allow. What a lovely memory...

Many of the girls working the stage are super hot. You just need to get there pretty early (10 or earlier) before the Koreans snatch them up. If I remember BFs are supposed to be a little pricier there, but not by all that much. I don't think I paid much more than the 3 K or so you seem to be paying on average for my door girl. But if memory serves the stage girls/ dancers are a bit pricier. I think Natty has discussed the pricing in more detail in his posts, so you may want to look it up.

Maybe pop in to see what's up next time you are in town. I don't think I'll make it back to AC for a while and it will be nice to read your posts.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 19:33
Really, enjoyed your reports, and thank you for putting the effort into posting them. My first visit to Pattaya was somewhat disappointing due to my high expectations, and I left kind of angry. My second visit was amazing. On the other hand, my visit to AC was great right from the start. All the girls I met were spinners, friendly, no fat, no funky pussy or bad breath. Maybe I just lucked out, but I suspect your second visit will be better.I do hope so ConquerorVal, but heart keeps calling me to go to Pattaya instead. Its just so damn easy there, maybe its the comfort factor due to multiple visits. I was with a like minded buddy of mine in this trip hence we had loads of fun besides girls. I don't know how it will shape out if I am going to visit solo next. I mean during daytime. Anyways I am working on a August trip, only in June first week will I finalise whether its going to be Pattaya or AC.

The pinay girls indeed are sweet and lovely. I am continously in touch with J from Manila, E and N from AC. Heck even landed a stunner pinay in Singapore on return. But then I am also in touch with N and other friends from Pattaya.

Unfortunately my Thai girls really seem to hate pinays. Hence I do risk losing one or two of my old friends if I venture to Manila / AC instead of Pattaya. Its going to be a tough call for me personally.

IllusionHeart
05-25-15, 19:41
Great reports man!

I am surprised you did not try Pharaoh's club, especially as it is right next door to HS. I really think they had the hottest girls in AC. By far. I know some of our colleagues (like Natty B) would concur.

Maybe pop in to see what's up next time you are in town. I don't think I'll make it back to AC for a while and it will be nice to read your posts.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.Uncle V, to be honest I do get nervous and jittery with so many women around and having to choose only one. Always get buyers remorse and it bugs me later on. After my disaster at Club Atlantis (Grace) and disappointment at Crystal Palace (Louis not wanting LT) I decided to stick to small clubs only and did have a great time. However on my last day I did go to Stardust and it was a good experience. I passed Grand Pharoah everyday and I think its Bunkerzz or some club next to it wherein the girls in camouflage dress always called us and we ignored them and hence never struck to us to go into GP.

Thanks once again, I take your suggestion and will surely visit on my next trip.

Engine Driver
05-26-15, 15:35
I do hope so ConquerorVal, but heart keeps calling me to go to Pattaya instead. Its just so damn easy there, maybe its the comfort factor due to multiple visits. I was with a like minded buddy of mine in this trip hence we had loads of fun besides girls. I don't know how it will shape out if I am going to visit solo next. I mean during daytime. Anyways I am working on a August trip, only in June first week will I finalise whether its going to be Pattaya or AC.

The pinay girls indeed are sweet and lovely. I am continously in touch with J from Manila, E and N from AC. Heck even landed a stunner pinay in Singapore on return. But then I am also in touch with N and other friends from Pattaya.

Unfortunately my Thai girls really seem to hate pinays. Hence I do risk losing one or two of my old friends if I venture to Manila / AC instead of Pattaya. Its going to be a tough call for me personally.IllusionHart, thank you for your fabulous reports. They are most insightful and well considered. You are clearly in a good position to compare LOS with AC. Keep up the good work!

Engine Driver
05-26-15, 16:17
As you would agree, Angeles City is one big stinking shit hole which no one in their right mind would ever visit it if it wasn't for the bars. Given that you are going to be stuck in this hell on earth for a few days, how do you pass the time when you are not pounding Pinay pussy? You need to get really creative to make it into a memorable holiday and not just remembered for how many 5'0' Asian babes you conquered.

Here are the Top 10 things you must do in Angeles City, besides picking up in the Walking Street bars.

1. Take your instant girlfriend for dinner or lunch at Fortune Tea House at SM Clark Mall. She will think you are a millionaire and are going to present her with a marriage proposal. Incidentally, the food there is quite tasty and is international standard Chinese. Certainly makes a change from eating Kenny Rogers, Chow King, KFC, Jollie Bee or any of the hundred other fried chicken joints in AC.

2. Have a Jenlipsun Massage. Most of the dozen or so shopfront massage parlors in AC maintain an image of respectability by not overtly offering HJ as part of the deal. I have never been offered a HJ, nor have I asked any of the masseuses for one at the shops. This is where the Jenlipsun massage takes a life of its own. It is purely a balls and cock massage and no one is hiding the fact. You will come across a number of pretty young girls wearing colored nurse type uniforms at the entrance gate to Walking Street. These are the masseuses who provide a mobile massage service to your hotel room. Collect a calling card from one of these girls and call the number when you get to your hotel room. Ask for the Jenlipsun massage. Within 10 minutes, a hot young thing will be sitting astride you and milking your balls for every last drop of cum. Simply sensational. The girl I got took her top off and was quite OK with me playing with her titties. Even if you call the number and request a normal massage (eg Swedish), the girl will upsell you the Jenlipsun two minutes into the normal massage. I defy you to resist when she has already started to massage your balls! She then cuts out her boss for the extra amount.

3. Sit at the front counter at Kokomos at 6. 00 pm for dinner and watch the world go past. You will see the bar girls all reporting for their shifts. Street urchins will continually harass you to buy everything from machettes, fake viagra, pirated porn, fake iphones etc all while you are trying to sip your SML in peace. All part of the experience. Obviously no one in AC has heard of Pirate Bay or VPNs, hence they still sell hard copies of pirated DVDs.

4. Visit the Perimeter Bars at least once. Makes a nice change from bigger bars on Fields Avenue. The Perimeter Bars are cheaper and you will find some gems there.

5. Buy some imported alcohol at the Field Avenue supermarket to drink on your vacation or to take back home. 700 ML Barcardi Rum is around PHP 350 which is probably the lowest in the world. Might even be cheaper than in Tijuana or at Ralph's in LA.

6. Try the balut from the street vendor. In case you don't know, it is boiled, fertilized quail egg. That is, the embryo has already formed. I saw a bar girl eat a cup full of this shit and I almost threw up. She did offer me one to try when she caught me staring at the contents of the cup. However, feel free to take up the challenge.

In true travel writer fashion, I tried very hard to come up with 10 things. But unfortunately, I couldn't get there. There simply isn't anything else noteworthy about AC. Perhaps someone else could complete this list.

IllusionHeart
05-26-15, 18:08
Here are the Top 10 things you must do in Angeles City, besides picking up in the Walking Street bars.

6. Try the balut from the street vendor. In case you don't know, it is boiled, fertilized quail egg. That is, the embryo has already formed. I saw a bar girl eat a cup full of this shit and I almost threw up. She did offer me one to try when she caught me staring at the contents of the cup. However, feel free to take up the challenge.

In true travel writer fashion, I tried very hard to come up with 10 things. But unfortunately, I couldn't get there. There simply isn't anything else noteworthy about AC. Perhaps someone else could complete this list.Engine Driver, appreciate your feedback on the FRs. I ll add few must do experiences as well, don't know if its going to suit everyone's taste like Balut.

7. For some Adrenalin adventure visit the mountainclark firing range. Its not very expensive. The range is from a Baretta upto an M16. Favourite however is the Colt 45 Caliber. Details are available on their website.

8. Visit Mount Pinotubo and hike to the crater late. Helicopter rides are also available for those wanting luxury. I want to do this on the next trip (hike not Helicopter).

9. Visit Puning hot springs with your girl. This was strongly recommended to my by Diana the waitress at Vikings, on my list now.

10. I cannot figure out anything else hence lazing around the pool entire afternoon with / without girl would also be a good idea to relax and there is nothing else to do unfortunately.

Sir Lancelot
05-26-15, 20:11
As you would agree, Angeles City is one big stinking shit hole which no one in their right mind would ever visit it if it wasn't for the bars. Given that you are going to be stuck in this hell on earth for a few days, how do you pass the time when you are not pounding Pinay pussy?Nice list but I have to disagree with you about Angeles being a 'stinking shit hole' and 'hell on earth'. You make it sound like Beirut to anyone who hasn't been before and I'd hate that comment to put people off. Although I do agree that there isn't a lot of touristy stuff to do during the daytime, I find Angeles a perfectly pleasant to stay. It's not too hot or dusty, poverty-stricken, busy, littered with rubbish, noisy, smelly and with grid-locked streets like other mongering hot-spots. People are laid-back and friendly. If you want to dilute your girlie adventures with a bit of tourism, go to Palawan, Donsol, Bohol or the Banaue Rice Terraces. Philippines has plenty of options and flights are cheap. Angeles is all about the girls. If you want to combine girls with tourism, consider Cebu, Puerto Galera or Subic Bay.

Regarding Pattaya v Angeles, on my recent trip I went with my friends Owen and Macca, both veterans of dozens of trips to Pattaya. It was their first time in Philippines (largely based on my glowing reports) and they loved Angeles to such a degree they've already booked to go again later this year! Pattaya is more exciting and there are more ways to meet girls, from soapy massage parlours to gogo bars, seedy soi 6 to the nightclubs. But it's more expensive, long-time is nowhere near as prevalent and it's much harder to find the girlfriend experience.

Switched
05-26-15, 21:11
Nice list but I have to disagree with you about Angeles being a 'stinking shit hole' and 'hell on earth'. I think the key difference here is that you visited in March when the weather is not to bad, ED visited in May when the season is changing.

AC is a bit of a shit hole at the wrong time of year, being that it is a low inland city. FWIW, - I am more comfortable in AC than I am in Manila, however, There are many 'nicer' places in the PI but most are not foreigner magnets.

Socker
05-26-15, 22:23
Nice list but I have to disagree with you about Angeles being a 'stinking shit hole' and 'hell on earth'. You make it sound like Beirut to anyone who hasn't been before and I'd hate that comment to put people off. Although I do agree that there isn't a lot of touristy stuff to do during the daytime, I find Angeles a perfectly pleasant to stay. It's not too hot or dusty, poverty-stricken, busy, littered with rubbish, noisy, smelly and with grid-locked streets like other mongering hot-spots. People are laid-back and friendly. If you want to dilute your girlie adventures with a bit of tourism, go to Palawan, Donsol, Bohol or the Banaue Rice Terraces. Philippines has plenty of options and flights are cheap. Angeles is all about the girls. If you want to combine girls with tourism, consider Cebu, Puerto Galera or Subic Bay.

Regarding Pattaya v Angeles, on my recent trip I went with my friends Owen and Macca, both veterans of dozens of trips to Pattaya. It was their first time in Philippines (largely based on my glowing reports) and they loved Angeles to such a degree they've already booked to go again later this year! Pattaya is more exciting and there are more ways to meet girls, from soapy massage parlous to go go bars, seedy soi 6 to the nightclubs. But it's more expensive, long-time is nowhere near as prevalent and it's much harder to find the girlfriend experience.Lance, It's futile to correct this kind of thinking, actually the opposite would be in order here.

Yes it is!! It's aliving, breathing shit hole so don't go! Engine Joe is right! AC is the worst place to be in the daytime, a literal "Shit Hole" Eww! Some will get on you.

Don't go there.

ConquerorVal
05-27-15, 00:42
Yes it is!! It's a LIVING BREATHING shit hole so don't go! Engine Joe is right! AC is the worst place to be in the daytime, a literal "SHIT HOLE" eww!!!......SOME WILL GET ON YOU! DON'T GO THERE! LOL!First of all I did nothing but mongering. No time for anything else. Morning, day and night. Never even made it to the mall across my stay at the ABC. If it would not be for Master Monger I would not see any of the Perimeter road or Raymond and Santos. But I do have to agree with you Socker, I would definitely not have people visit AC and be exposed to such toxic environment, and all that shaved pussy. I read similar reports about Sosua and how much of a shithole it was, and they were right. Beautiful beach, good food, all body types and skin colours. It was so awful that I had to visit again just to make sure. Will do the same with AC. Just kidding EJ! Good reports!

Engine Driver
05-27-15, 01:33
Lance, It's futile to correct this kind of thinking, actually the opposite would be in order here.

Yes it is!! It's a LIVING BREATHING shit hole so don't go! Engine Joe is right! AC is the worst place to be in the daytime, a literal "SHIT HOLE" eww!!!......SOME WILL GET ON YOU!

DON'T GO THERE! LOL!I'm glad some of you get the message in the spirit it was intended. What I am implying is that the benefit of the bars is so great that the surrounding area of AC doesn't matter. Take away the bars and it is a Stinking. Shit. Hole. Certainly not discouraging anyone from going. It's a must do experience. You will feel like a kid in a candy store unable to decide what to take.

D Cups
05-27-15, 03:51
Well it is what is is. Even when I was stationed at Clark in the 80's in the heyday we used to go to Manila, Subic, Baguio, 100 Islands or Cebu for something different. But you got to love the LBFMs of Angeles. Man, I lived there for 2. 5 years and loved it. Can't wait to go back, either. You can bash AC all you want. Doesn't faze me one bit.


I'm glad some of you get the message in the spirit it was intended. What I am implying is that the benefit of the bars is so great that the surrounding area of AC doesn't matter. Take away the bars and it is a Stinking. Shit. Hole. Certainly not discouraging anyone from going. It's a must do experience. You will feel like a kid in a candy store unable to decide what to take..