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Soapy Smith
04-12-18, 08:34
1991? Can anyone explain the thinking behind the new name, 1991, for a bar that was called Eruptions. Inside, everything looks the same. It's a pretty bleak place.
Damn, X. I think your memory is failing. Weren't you one of the last guys out of Subic in '91 when Pinatubo erupted and the bases got closed down?
...............................1991? Can anyone explain the thinking behind the new name, 1991, for a bar that was called Eruptions. Inside, everything looks the same. It's a pretty bleak place.Last time I was in Eruptions, I suggested they rename the place to: Erections.
1991 won't do anything for them, Erections might.
UsaInEurope
04-12-18, 11:02
Worthwhile to go to the countryside for a couple of days and get a fresher fuck?
Any lactating bar girls -- is that something to ask a mamasan?
Foreign tourists almost never visit provincial Philippines due to lack of infrastructure and lack of attractions. However, millions of people live their life there. Since sex is just a part of daily life for young Pinays, that is not a big deal for them to get laid, especially if men pay for that. Even in poorest parts of the country with severe unemployment, prostitution is a good and easy opportunity to start to earn at least something. The least well off social classes pay with small sack of rice or with fish, with catch of the day. In more prosperous places Pinoys pay with cash. Nevertheless, the market price depends on the purchasing power, so the actual market price for locals is far below the price of some fancy places, like AC.
It is a fallacy to think, that it is so easy for girls to relocate to Manila, Cebu or AC. First of all it is related to psychology of an individual. Not all people are easy going, many are afraid of uncertainty. It is very similar to Westerners. Some do travel on their own, while other stick to travel companies, who arrange everything for them. That is why many prostitutes prefer to live with less, than to challenge unknown.
Second of all, relocation is expensive. Not everybody can afford it. Most Filipinos don't have any savings at all, and it is a problem to raise money even for ship ticket to get to Luzon, not to mention they have to live somewhere and eat something in a big city before they start to earn, which is extremely expensive comparing to their home province.
Third of all, Filipinos used to rely on people they know. For example if a friend of a friend of a cousin of her friend managed to settle in Angeles City, then she considers it is trustworthy information, and she will inquire about details, how to get there, where to live, how much foreign mongers pay, etc. Information is transmitted by word of mouth solely. If Pinays don't have someone of their relatives or friends familiar with the state of affairs on the ground, they most likely will not go there. That is one of the reasons, why some girls don't relocate. They simply don't know how to settle and how to earn in a new place.
Engine Driver
04-12-18, 11:05
Many posts are short on facts and long on bola bola.
Back in my country I"m banging a beautiful 47 year old married filipina. I also don't think the original post was based on any fact.
You can scratch Thai off this list. I have never been married to one, but I have had many a horny one over 40. I have one right now that is 48 and hot hot hot. Funny that it seems like most of them are teachers.Firstly, you need to exclude all the statistical outliers. They mean nothing and distort the facts.
If you read my reports, I was specifically referring to Asian women married to men from their own ethnic backgrounds. I said they stop having sex after 40 with their husbands because they're more interested in children, family, religion, social status etc. Also, when the children are growing up in a cramped Asian house, it is always not conducive for a woman to have sexual relations so openly. I was not referring to prostitutes, girls on dating sites or bored Asian housewives looking for an exciting fling with a foreigner.
We also discussed in previous posts the fact that many Asian men go and seek P4 P action because of the lack of sexual activity at home. We agreed that this is tolerated as long as the family is not embarrassed and the husband is discreet.
For those of you that have lived in Asia for any length of time, you will know what I'm talking about. There is enough empirical and anecdotal evidence around to suggest that middle aged Asian women switch off and sex with their husbands is not really important. I have found a couple of references which back up what I am saying, so it's not bola bola. It makes for good bedtime reading.
1. Ford, K & Chamratritrithirong, A (2011). Midlife Sexuality among Thai adults: Adjustment to ageing in the Thai family context. Institute for Population and Social Research, Mahidol University, Thailand.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3347485/
2. Wikipedia (2018) "In 2010, another survey published The Japanese Association for Sex Education Research Journal found that 40.8% (up from 34.6% in 2006) of marriages in Japan could be classified as "sexless", which the Japan Society of Sexual Sciences generally defines as "engaging in sex less than once a month, despite not suffering from any health-related conditions". Among the top reasons married couples cite for not having sex, is that after children are in the picture (couples are even discouraged from having intercourse while pregnant), sex can decrease markedly or even become nonexistent for a habit-forming period of time".
Engine Driver
04-12-18, 11:09
Bola bola = BS?
This is a blog to help future travelers to AC. But it also serves to help past travelers such as I, who are now stuck in the Land of the Hippos (ie the USA), to relive my memories of a place I love as much as AC.
I am stuck here with no sex, and herds of 300 lb hippos, but a mind full of AC memories, and an inquenchable urge to be back in AC. Thus I have lotsa stories and opinions to share about AC.
Do you know retiree bars in AC? There is one a few stores down from the Dollhouse. There are 20 retirees there everyday drinking beer. I bet they are chatting about war stories (most are military veterans I bet), but also about their war stories in the sack with the young pinays.
Just because I am thousands of miles away doesn't mean I can't chat about my war stories and opinions of AC. It isn't Bola Bola. It is opinions based on fact. When I am in AC I don't tell any stories about my sexual exploits in the USA. That's because they all are 20+ years old from when I was in college. Since then the women get bigger, and my wallet doesn't grow fat enough to attract the young hotties anymore.
AC is heaven on earth for sexual minded and fun loving men. If they could bottle it, each bottle would sell for thousands.The USA is full of Asian and Latina hookers. Can't they help you out? I appreciate that it's not quite 2,000 pesos a fuck in your country, but better than being miserable. LOL.
Engine Driver
04-12-18, 11:36
Many posts are short on facts and long on bola bola.DG, here are a couple of other references to back up what I said. At least you won't be bored tonight. Plenty to read!
1. Pacher, A. (2017) Extramarital Affairs in Contemporary Japan: Current Situation and Trends. Meiji University, Japan.
2. Kalra, G, Subramanyam, A and Pinto, see (2011) Sexuality: Desire, activity and intimacy in the elderly. Indian Journal of Psychiatry Oct-Dec; 53 (4): 300306.
Reference 2 states that "Older women also express sexual desire, but may fear their interest is undignified and disgraceful".
Not sure if these learned scholars would like me quoting their works in the ISG. LOL
Engine Driver
04-12-18, 11:57
Thailand, Cambodia, The PI, etc obviously have reasons to allow their countries to be sex destinations. If they'd be better off w / out this then P4P would have been banished long ago. One reason they might allow it is that the local men demand P4P in their countries as it is a necessary bodily function as it is for a percentage of all males around the world. It's just some countries like the USA have voted (women's right to vote in 1912, P4P outlawed 1915) to make it illegal and enforced completely. The horn dogs in those countries (USA included) are screwed big time.
I assume that because these P4P countries have to allow a certain degree of prostitution for their native male population they might as well not treat foreigners differently. That's probably why it still thrives if you the blowhard are right. I don't think you are. I think it makes a big difference to a large segment of natives.
It probably doesn't effect the bottom line (as you say) in their economies but it does effect the bottom line in provinces and urban poor. These poor women can make doctor / lawyer money and a fair percentage do. Granted most hookers in these countries are only making above average incomes but it's what they choose to do.
So there is a practical reason Burgos is Burgos and AC is AC. BKK has a huge scene as does Pattaya and these locales attract mongers from all over the world. Foreigners go for mongering and maybe take a liking to the country and build the expat communities. Does that affect their bottom line?
I think all hell would break loose if these governments outlawed P4P and enforced it. My 2 pesos.Thailand and the Philippines have very low unemployment rates. Thailand has 0% in fact (not bola bola, DG). Local women not working as prostitutes could survive in legitimate jobs, just like 99% of the population does. I was just saying that the P4 P scene catering to foreigners is insignificant and not merely as important as many visitors would like to think it is. The P4 P scene for foreigners continues to thrive in the Philippines, Thailand and Cambodia as local politicians, police and the military all have a financial interest in it. All hell would break loose if it closed as you say, however, the price of real estate is so high in Burgos, Nana and Patpong that the business case for running bars must surely be re-examined.
Mr Enternational
04-12-18, 13:53
We also discussed in previous posts the fact that many Asian men go and seek P4 P action because of the lack of sexual activity at home.This makes no sense. Why assume that someone goes out for P4P because they are not getting any from their wife? Because someone goes to eat at a restaurant you would not assume that their wife never cooks at home. For some of us P4P is done because it is fun or because it is a change of pace, not because we can't get laid at home from our own significant other. That is a problem that I have never had when I was married or had girlfriends. Why do you assume this would happen with Asian men? You are not in their bedrooms so it is ridiculous to assume they are not having sex with their wives simply because they go out to P4P. When I was in the Navy I fucked plenty of married Filipinas. Did that mean their husbands were not giving them sex at home as well?
I routinely look at the photos and x rated videos from my travels in between visits to PI, DR, Indo, Thailand. Luckily, I also have a brown sugar who comes over twice or more times a week for $40'pop. She's not much to look at but sucks a mean dick. I stopped dating American women over five years ago. Now I just save up for trips and am a lot happier. My American buddies are constantly complaining about their wives or girlfriends. See AW thread.
Here is a question. What do mongers bring home from AC to help fill the long weeks and months in between visits?.
Thailand and the Philippines have very low unemployment rates. Thailand has 0% in fact (not bola bola, DG). Local women not working as prostitutes could survive in legitimate jobs, just like 99% of the population does. I was just saying that the P4 P scene catering to foreigners is insignificant and not merely as important as many visitors would like to think it is. The P4 P scene for foreigners continues to thrive in the Philippines, Thailand and Cambodia as local politicians, police and the military all have a financial interest in it. All hell would break loose if it closed as you say, however, the price of real estate is so high in Burgos, Nana and Patpong that the business case for running bars must surely be re-examined.I sincerely differ with you on the low unemployment rate in the Philippines. It may be low in some professional areas but certainly very high in poor province areas, in which case girls migrate to Angeles to work.
4 year HRM degreed students are lucky to find a 6 month job as hotel room attendants does not reflect a good employment rate.
I agree the pnp economy is probably a small bleep on the Phil overall economy. Never the less it feeds a lot of people.
Thailand, Cambodia, The PI, etc obviously have reasons to allow their countries to be sex destinations. If they'd be better off w / out this then P4P would have been banished long ago. One reason they might allow it is that the local men demand P4P in their countries as it is a necessary bodily function as it is for a percentage of all males around the world. It's just some countries like the USA have voted (women's right to vote in 1912, P4P outlawed 1915) to make it illegal and enforced completely. The horn dogs in those countries (USA included) are screwed big time...........I think all hell would break loose if these governments outlawed P4P and enforced it. My 2 pesos.I don't think that these governments give a flying fig about the sexual needs of their male population. Take China for example where the best sex destination on the planet (pre-2014 Chang Ping) was shut down completely and they are cracking down on prostitution in all other cities. I suspect that the bottom line is an economic decision. Too much money was coming into China and causing inflation. China has also allowed a lot of capital flight to reduce inflation. We better hope that the same does not occur in the Philippines and Thailand.
I don't think that these governments give a flying fig about the sexual needs of their male population. Take China for example where the best sex destination on the planet (pre-2014 Chang Ping) was shut down completely and they are cracking down on prostitution in all other cities. I suspect that the bottom line is an economic decision. Too much money was coming into China and causing inflation. China has also allowed a lot of capital flight to reduce inflation. We better hope that the same does not occur in the Philippines and Thailand.I think these countries clamp down because:
1. To gain better status with the UN and or USA as most favorable trading partner.
2. To have a better international perception of their country. I. e. When you mention Thailand most people think of sex for sale even though it is a minute part of the economy and the country. After all they do have elephants and temples to look at.
Engine Driver
04-12-18, 22:28
Mr E, I'm flogging a dead horse here. With 7,000 posts, you need to carefully RTFF and pay attention to the context! I think by living in that P4 P bubble (or shit hole) that is Pattaya, your view of the world is seen through a different lens. LOL.
This is why it's okay for the husband to wander off and get their release elsewhere as long as they keep discreet about it. I assume the same goes for married Pinays.
When I was in the Navy I fucked plenty of married Filipinas. Did that mean their husbands were not giving them sex at home as well?I was not claiming to be the authority on Pinays. We were not discussing the morality of Pinays. The context was that Asian wives often turn a blind eye to their husbands' philandering.
Mr E, I'm flogging a dead horse here. With 7,000 posts, you need to carefully RTFF and pay attention to the context! I think by living in that P4 P bubble (or shit hole) that is Pattaya, your view of the world is seen through a different lens. LOL.
I was not claiming to be the authority on Pinays. We were not discussing the morality of Pinays. The context was that Asian wives often turn a blind eye to their husbands' philandering.Very true even if the wives don't like it. Japanese and S. Korean wives know what the hubbies are doing on the BKK and AC deep see fishing trips.
Mr Enternational
04-12-18, 23:23
I was not claiming to be the authority on Pinays. We were not discussing the morality of Pinays. The context was that Asian wives often turn a blind eye to their husbands' philandering.Yes, but you were claiming that this is the case because their wives no longer want sex! I was just showing that in my experience their wives do want sex.. Otherwise they wouldn't have been having it with me.
Eszpresszo
04-12-18, 23:45
Mr E, I'm flogging a dead horse here. With 7,000 posts, you need to carefully RTFF and pay attention to the context! I think by living in that P4 P bubble (or shit hole) that is Pattaya, your view of the world is seen through a different lens. LOL.More likely a shithole called Detroit or Newark. I can't remember the last time he put up an actual Field Report. Nothing he posts contains any kind of information that can't already be found here on ISG or anywhere else on the internet.
I routinely look at the photos and x rated videos from my travels in between visits to PI, DR, Indo, Thailand. Luckily, I also have a brown sugar who comes over twice or more times a week for $40'pop. She's not much to look at but sucks a mean dick. I stopped dating American women over five years ago. Now I just save up for trips and am a lot happier. My American buddies are constantly complaining about their wives or girlfriends. See AW thread.I always try to finger bang PI chix with my right index finger, and then not wash it. It provides a few days of spunk to sniff on during the flight home and the first few days at home. Yum!
There also is filipino porn that is always fun. Reminds me of the good times in AC.
As a side note, why doesn't HiSo have secluded VIP rooms like the American bars? The large space to the left of the dance floor is hardly ever used. They could close that off and put in one-way glass. They could charge a rental fee, much like Aqua does for their bungalows. High rollers could bring chix in that room and bang them in privacy. The door could lock from the inside. They could provide washable seat covers etc. So you get a clean room every night. What a money maker!! You would have guys banging lots of girls every night! There could be wash rooms installed in each VIP room so you could wash off your dick, and flush the condoms. I should have been a business man!
Bamboo Pete
04-13-18, 14:24
As a side note, why doesn't HiSo have secluded VIP rooms like the American bars? The large space to the left of the dance floor is hardly ever used. They could close that off and put in one-way glass..Nice idea, but they wouldn't get a permit for this. Some years ago, there were many short time bars, where you could have activities in a back room. Especially all bars in Santos street had a room in the back or upstairs where they provided a BJ or st. But no more. Only few bars left with this service.
Mr Enternational
04-13-18, 14:39
More likely a shithole called Detroit or Newark. I can't remember the last time he put up an actual Field Report. Nothing he posts contains any kind of information that can't already be found here on ISG or anywhere else on the internet.I guess we can conclude that reading is not your strong suit or you are afflicted with alzheimer. Or maybe you are just being a troll. Would anyone care to read some of my last few FIELD REPORTS to this troll? I am sure all the board members will be grateful when you point them to any kind of information that YOU have posted that can't already be found here on ISG or anywhere else on the internet.
NEW INFO posted January 26:
Today is the grand opening. The former owner of Phillies owns the place. It is actually a rather nice restaurant with soft music playing. San Mig Light 77 pesos and my mojito 127 pesos. The hotel upstairs has a different owner (ABC) and the club will be a Korean disco.
Dominican Republic March 30:
I kept thinking in my head that this might be one of Grown Man's girls. First thing I did was hide my money while she was in the bathroom. Then I went in and took pictures of her using the toilet. I told her to take a shower but she said she just took one 20 minutes ago at home. All her clothes were already off and for some reason she bent over on the dresser (maybe looking in the mirror or something). I started touching her ass and she asked me if I wanted to fuck her in the ass. I said sure why not. I guess she didn't realize that I could all of a sudden speak Spanish when we got to the apartment, because she didn't comment on it.Colombia March 26:
No matter how hard I try I just can't get away. And I tried. I really tried. I promised myself today that I would try to check out new places like that Playboy Club or Mansion or whatever it is called. But I left my hotel downtown at 11pm and took the 10 minute walk to Santa Fe and that was all she wrote. There was so much pussy around that place it was ridiculous. I asked one chick how much and she said 20. I said and the room? She said 5. So 25 in all. Let's do it then! She had me pay the motel person 7 and she gave her a condom. I said but I already have condoms. Fuck it. It was only 2000. The usual BBBJ and all the positions. About 30 minutes later, busted one, paid the 20 and left.
Cambodia February 17:
Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.
At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.
Angeles City January 29:
I met up with Threadbare the other day and he told me about a bar called Firepit (where you can bang chicks onsite) up Perimeter across from Boomerang Hotel. I went up there yesterday but did not see the place. I did see two hole in the walls though in the same building. There was a guy outside trying to get me to go into one but I was like fuck that and decided to peek into the other one..
Nice idea, but they wouldn't get a permit for this. Some years ago, there were many short time bars, where you could have activities in a back room. Especially all bars in Santos street had a room in the back or upstairs where they provided a BJ or st. But no more. Only few bars left with this service.It wouldn't be officially 'endorced' by HiSo management. It is just a bungalow that is rented. What goes on in there is unknown to the management. And if they police complained, if you are renting out a vip bungalow for 5000+ a night, then they can grease the police palms.
The occupants can have bottle service so they have all the booze they need. Then they can lock the door and staff will be kept out. Its just like Kareoke places in Manila: you can lock the door, they have one way glass on the door, and you call the staff when you need service, else they don't show up. You could easily bang a chick in the Kareoke rooms. You could almost bang a chick in the bungalows at Aqua if you had a few other mongers and / or girls sitting around to block other's view as there arent doors on the bungalows.
It would be a huge money maker and lotsa fun for the mongers at HiSo. It would be wild as hell to chat up a girl on the dance floor, invite her back for drinks, and after she is liquored up, broker a deal and bang her in the bungalow, and then go back out on the dance floor and find another girl. So much fun!!
All hell would break loose if it closed as you say, however, the price of real estate is so high in Burgos, Nana and Patpong that the business case for running bars must surely be re-examined.Thanks. I was just saying there must be a reason the governments allow it to occur. I know what you mean about the cost in running bars in those locales. Last few times during my on Burgos 70% of the bars were empty at 9 or 10 pm, just full of dancers. I ask the mama what's the BF and they all said 3 K or 3.5 bK you know absurd BFs. This goes on daily doesn't matter which night. So I figure it's some kind on money laundering thing going. How can they stay in business otherwise.
As for a good looking Thai girls (which there are zillions) yes they don't need P4P to live a comfortable life but if they want to make 20 times that amount, the bold ones work at the Go Gos are similar.
Cheers bro.
I don't think that these governments give a flying fig about the sexual needs of their male population. Take China for example where the best sex destination on the planet (pre-2014 Chang Ping) was shut down completely and they are cracking down on prostitution in all other cities. I suspect that the bottom line is an economic decision. Too much money was coming into China and causing inflation. China has also allowed a lot of capital flight to reduce inflation. We better hope that the same does not occur in the Philippines and Thailand.Yeah, I would cut off a couple of toes to work those porcelain China dolls. China though is both capitalist and communist so I don't think they're a good example. I don't think there's a religious or feminist component there like in many other countries. I think there is generally more pressure to allow P4P than there is to outlaw it. I agree about the tea money but I think there's more to it. Gambling isn't allowed in Thailand and there would be much more tea money for law enforcement if there was.
Cheers.
It wouldn't be officially 'endorced' by HiSo management. It is just a bungalow that is rented. What goes on in there is unknown to the management. And if they police complained, if you are renting out a vip bungalow for 5000+ a night, then they can grease the police palms.
The occupants can have bottle service so they have all the booze they need. Then they can lock the door and staff will be kept out. Its just like Kareoke places in Manila: you can lock the door, they have one way glass on the door, and you call the staff when you need service, else they don't show up. You could easily bang a chick in the Kareoke rooms. You could almost bang a chick in the bungalows at Aqua if you had a few other mongers and / or girls sitting around to block other's view as there arent doors on the bungalows.
It would be a huge money maker and lotsa fun for the mongers at HiSo. It would be wild as hell to chat up a girl on the dance floor, invite her back for drinks, and after she is liquored up, broker a deal and bang her in the bungalow, and then go back out on the dance floor and find another girl. So much fun!!Has HiSo become G rated? I'll admit it's been many years since I've been inside but short of full on fucking, I've had most of what you mentioned at the tables near the dance floor: BJs, girl on girl DATY, tits out playing were all possible.
Sure the security guys needed to be well lubricated to provide a barrier to the other punters (and stop us being thrown out) but I don't think it was a lot more than the P5 k you mentioned.
Is this no longer tolerated?
Has HiSo become G rated? I'll admit it's been many years since I've been inside but short of full on fucking, I've had most of what you mentioned at the tables near the dance floor: BJs, girl on girl DATY, tits out playing were all possible.
Sure the security guys needed to be well lubricated to provide a barrier to the other punters (and stop us being thrown out) but I don't think it was a lot more than the P5 k you mentioned.
Is this no longer tolerated?I have never seen this. The security is very aggressive and almost bullying in HiSo. They give alot of hard stares at people. They are probably worried due to past violence etc.
You would figure most of the violence around the world by guys is due to lack of sex. Very few guys in AC are suffering from that. You figure everyone is oversexed and thus tired, sleepy and relaxed. Granted many mongers drink way too much and might get violent from that.
But, I think the worried security would not allow sexual contact in HiSo. Most mongers have hotels near by and would just take a girl there. But getting 'freaky' is often fun. I have been tempted to take a girl into the crapper at a restaurant or bar (maybe HISo), and bang her in there. That would be a cool experience.
But anyway, I doubt HiSo is getting rich from the small cover charge or the few drinks they sell. Seems like most are nursing drinks, unless generous mongers are buying. And once I find a good girl, I buy her one drink only, and am then out the door. So they get 400 p out of me (one cover charge, and two drinks). My idea about the cabanas would be a big money maker.
Mr Enternational
04-15-18, 00:22
I have been tempted to take a girl into the crapper at a restaurant or bar (maybe HISo), and bang her in there. That would be a cool experience.How old are you man? This is the stuff we were doing back in high school.
California8
04-15-18, 02:31
Kiss & Music Lounge is out on the Perimeter near the bars like After School. After going through 3 other bars, some with only 3 dancers, some with very little quality, I happened into this place. Many more gals than the other bars and a few I was interested in. I called one over but wanted to ask a few questions before buying her a drink she said she would only do 2 hour short time so no drink for her. The next one called over would do long time and was the definition of spinner. Tight little package who said she was 4' 9" & 38 kilos and has been at the bar for one month. The EWR is 2200 pesos and the waitress was nice enough to ask if I would buy double lady drink for the little gal, when I asked for single, no problem.
Back at hotel all went well during first session but I was starting to feel the jet lag since this was my first day here after my trans-pacific flight. We went for dinner then as soon as we got back to hotel & after checking her phone she asks to leave because her friend has no money and is starving for something to eat. My first response was I will buy her friend something to eat if she comes over for our next session, ha ha. I emphatically tell her our deal for long time (I have already paid at the bar). Feeling my jet lag, it is not the end of the world to sleep by myself plus actually a preference so I convince her for one more session then she can leave. I get a BBBJCIM. On her way out the door, she asks for a tip and I just laugh; the tip would have only been forthcoming the next morning.
Cal8.
Engine Driver
04-15-18, 03:27
Thanks. I was just saying there must be a reason the governments allow it to occur. I know what you mean about the cost in running bars in those locales. Last few times during my on Burgos 70% of the bars were empty at 9 or 10 pm, just full of dancers. I ask the mama what's the BF and they all said 3 K or 3.5 bK you know absurd BFs. This goes on daily doesn't matter which night. So I figure it's some kind on money laundering thing going. How can they stay in business otherwise.
100% correct. They would be mafia controlled operations and ideal cash businesses to launder money. They just couldn't cover the rent and wages based on drink sales and barfines alone.
At Bottoms Bar, the bar fine a few months ago was a non-negotiable 3,900 and the girl expects a fee of 4,000 long time for 2 pops.
I have never seen this. The security is very aggressive and almost bullying in HiSo. They give alot of hard stares at people. They are probably worried due to past violence etc.
But anyway, I doubt HiSo is getting rich from the small cover charge or the few drinks they sell. Seems like most are nursing drinks, unless generous mongers are buying. And once I find a good girl, I buy her one drink only, and am then out the door. So they get 400 p out of me (one cover charge, and two drinks). My idea about the cabanas would be a big money maker.That's no good nor fun. . . LOL.
I'll qualify my earlier post by saying:
It was a long time ago. Probably close to 10 years now and I haven't been back since. From recent posts, AC seems to have changed considerably since then.
It was at the tail end of the night so the girls were imports from other bars and everyone was pretty well lubricated by the time we arrived at HiSo.
My buddy and I were in full Expats Run Wild mode then so the cash and drinks were flowing freely. I remember feeding the security guards a steady stream of 500 p notes to smooth the water. This made their attitude totally different to what you mentioned above. They were keeping freeloader punters away from us and even providing private bodyguard services to the pisser whenever bladders were full. We were also treated like rock stars when we returned on subsequent nights.
The only action they had us tone down was when the girl on girl fun at the table got a bit over the top and when we hit the dance floor with girls on our shoulders.
It's a shame you're saying things like this are no longer tolerated. I still remember that trip with great fondness.
How old are you man? This is the stuff we were doing back in high school.That makes it all the better!!
Half the reason I go to the Philippines is to relive my youth and on many nights acting mature is not a high priority. . . LOL.
ManonsanBoy
04-15-18, 13:18
I was in Angeles February. Got a BF from ponytails who made it clear she had to go at 10 pm. OK. We had dinner and she said she had to go to get kids (it was 9 pm). I said you said 10 pm. She said it takes me 1 hour to get home. At the spur of moment, I decided to get Uber (or Grab) and said I will come to see your home to see if your story is believable. Well, we got there in 20 minutes but I can believe it would take an hour with buses etc. Indeed, kids were waiting for mummy. I felt like shit and gave her 10,000 P and went back to hotel without getting out of car. The next day, she saw me when I went into ponytails and came and sat next to me without me indicating her to. She said God will be kind to you. I said you too. I think I will stop mongering.
Mr Enternational
04-15-18, 13:19
It was a long time ago. Probably close to 10 years now and I haven't been back since. From recent posts, AC seems to have changed considerably since then.
It was at the tail end of the night so the girls were imports from other bars and everyone was pretty well lubricated by the time we arrived at HiSo. I don't think High Society was even open that long ago. Could be wrong, but I think my first time in AC was maybe 9 years ago and Sky Trax was the disco to go to. It was like that my first few times there. Then this new exciting place called High Society opened. It was all glamorous with bright lights all over the place. (Everybody stopped going to Sky Trax.) Stayed that way for my next couple of trips, then I went back to AC and they had remodeled the place into its present piece of shit form, leaving that entire left side dark and gloomy.
To me not much has changed in AC since my first time there. The main difference is that the bars on blow row were decent to get a chick and you could fuck there on site. Now they are not even worth walking pass. Other than that, still plenty of chicks fucking for money and plenty of guys asking if you want to buy viagra, belts, stun guns every 5 steps.
Mr Enternational
04-15-18, 13:31
I was in Angeles February. Got a BF from ponytails who made it clear she had to go at 10 pm. OK. We had dinner and she said she had to go to get kids (it was 9 pm). I said you said 10 pm. She said it takes me 1 hour to get home. At the spur of moment, I decided to get Uber (or Grab) and said I will come to see your home to see if your story is believable. Well, we got there in 20 minutes but I can believe it would take an hour with buses etc. Indeed, kids were waiting for mummy. I felt like shit and gave her 10,000 P What was the 10,000 pesos for?
Everybody always thinks the stories are BS. In Thailand you will encounter chicks that have to bring the key to their friend. This is not just an excuse. A gogo chick that I was messing with for free a couple of months ago lives in a 3 bedroom house. There are 3 of them that live there but for some reason they only have 2 keys. We have had to take the key to her friend before and other times she hoped her friend was home when we got there because she didn't have the key. I forgot what she said when I asked her why don't they just get another key made.
What was the 10,000 pesos for?
Everybody always thinks the stories are BS. In Thailand you will encounter chicks that have to bring the key to their friend. This is not just an excuse. A gogo chick that I was messing with for free a couple of months ago lives in a 3 bedroom house. There are 3 of them that live there but for some reason they only have 2 keys. We have had to take the key to her friend before and other times she hoped her friend was home when we got there because she didn't have the key. I forgot what she said when I asked her why don't they just get another key made.In AC I guess the landlord gives you one or two keys at the most. I remember being at SM Mall with a bg who shared her room with 3 other girls. They had 2 keys and were always juggling the 2 keys between them. As we walked around there was quickie fix-it place that made duplicate keys. I took her in there to make a key. They had the blank key in stock but she was too scared to make it. "Not allowed not allowed, landlord says not allowed" she kept saying that with a petrified look.
I think the duplicated key would have costed around 200 pesos. Considerate amount of money to them.
I was in Angeles February. Got a BF from ponytails who made it clear she had to go at 10 pm. OK. We had dinner and she said she had to go to get kids (it was 9 pm). I said you said 10 pm. She said it takes me 1 hour to get home. At the spur of moment, I decided to get Uber (or Grab) and said I will come to see your home to see if your story is believable. Well, we got there in 20 minutes but I can believe it would take an hour with buses etc. Indeed, kids were waiting for mummy. I felt like shit and gave her 10,000 P and went back to hotel without getting out of car. The next day, she saw me when I went into ponytails and came and sat next to me without me indicating her to. She said God will be kind to you. I said you too. I think I will stop mongering.I applaud you for your human side Mboy.
I will buy you a beer.
Get ready for the onslaught. Seems like some posters here need the 10 k more than her.
Another cool business idea for AC:
They currently have cool call up services such as Nuru massage (google it), and escorts, and massage.
How about call up fetishes / luxury sex?
They are building all these high priced towers to stay in, and need to start attracting the high end mongers. Who is going to pay 100 usd for a room in abc, or the penthouse? High end mongers with high end kinks.
We should be able to order in to our rooms from a call service:
Analinguists (get your butthole licked).
Blowjob artists (girls that specialize in blowjobs, are very skilled, offer CIM, etc).
A-level service (girls that offer up their butthole).
Midget sex (have you ever banged a midget?
Dee-cup tits (a definate rarety in PI. It would be nice to titty fuck some Dee-cups or larger tits once in a while).
Luxury model escorts (the kind you can find in makati for a high price).
White (ie european) escorts.
Etc etc.
They need to turn AC into a true luxury sin city to attract the big dollar men from around the world. They have to compete with Europe, Thailand, Japan etc etc that have all these 'luxury' sex items to offer mongers.
AC use to offer cheap monger services: cheap blow job bars, cheap bar fines, etc etc, but that is gone. It is getting expensive in AC. That is ok as the higher-priced monger is moving into the expensive towers being built, but AC needs to up their game to bring in the high end kinks and luxury sex to keep the high end monger satiated.
Club Aqua at ABC is a nice high end novelty in AC. But then need to bring in the high end girls to work the place that you can take out of there for some high end sex. Instead you go to Aqua and leave alone, or with a FL that you could find in HiSo.
Your thoughts?
100% correct. They would be mafia controlled operations and ideal cash businesses to launder money. They just couldn't cover the rent and wages based on drink sales and barfines alone.
At Bottoms Bar, the bar fine a few months ago was a non-negotiable 3,900 and the girl expects a fee of 4,000 long time for 2 pops.That's too bad, 3900 is a deal breaker. They do have a happy hour and maybe the BG tip might be negotiable Monday or Tuesday. Another ploy is buttering up the mama w / a drink. If she takes care of you palm her 200 p.
That works sometimes and especially if you frequent the place. Same for Kojax which has had better looking dancers the last couple of years. Cheers.
Okay. I am finished after this. I understand that you are back home lonely and all you have to do is fantasize and every idea that pops into your head you write it here. But you do realize this is illegal right?Read the escort websites from makati. All the options I mentioned in my post are advertised on those sites (except midgets). They mention the options for each girl, and CIM, A-level, rimming, the-cups, european, etc etc are listed. AC needs to up its game. If they could offer the high end kinks offered in makati, but for a lower price, it would help ACs bottom line.
I remember in Bangkok, there was a BJ bar with a Doctor theme. Each girl was dressed up like a doctor or nurse, and you came in, and looked at a menu where each girl's specialty was listed. How Fun!! Instead of endless Tshirt shops etc on walking street, a cool place such as this would be awesome. Yes, the local police would need some palm greasing, but in the PI money talks.
BrainDrain
04-16-18, 11:55
I remember in Bangkok, there was a BJ bar with a Doctor theme. Each girl was dressed up like a doctor or nurses.AC is changing and also needs to get with the system.
FWIW I went into one place where the girls where all dressed as masseuses. The girl I chose gave me an awesome massage followed by awesome BJ & sex on the table. Nice.
I did go to one place in this beautiful city where the staff were dressed as Doctors and Nurses. I found an actual doctor with my required specialisation. That doctor was very attentive and did cure me. I did end up getting the nurse's number and have continued to bang her regularly without further charge.
I would welcome more of these establishments.
BD.
Midget sex (have you ever banged a midget?)
A lot of Pinays are not much taller than midgets (Western midgets anyway). Makes me wonder how tall a Filipina midget is. Maybe 3 feet? That's getting scary.
Mr Enternational
04-16-18, 14:40
A lot of Pinays are not much taller than midgets (Western midgets anyway). Makes me wonder how tall a Filipina midget is. Maybe 3 feet? That's getting scary.There are 2 that work (waitresses) on Fields. One used to work at the small bar next to Dollhouse or Atlantis where they have the pizza (I am really not too familiar with the names of bars.) I think it is closed now. I was going to fuck that one but then my girlfriend was on the way to the hotel so I had to go. I told my buddies that live there and the next time they pointed out a 60 year old troll looking midget. I said no way man. I know you didn't think I was talking about her. If you sit at Kokomo's you see them going back and forth to work sometimes.
I have fucked midgets in Brazil and used to date one in Thailand. There is also a Polish midget that you can find in Pattaya these days. Don't kiss her though, unless you want to taste my jizz.
VicVeg,
They are to be found but they are rare and usually chubby. I have had several, though.
Soapy Smith
04-16-18, 20:18
A lot of Pinays are not much taller than midgets (Western midgets anyway). Makes me wonder how tall a Filipina midget is. Maybe 3 feet? That's getting scary.If you want to know what they look like, check out the Hobbit House about three blocks north of LA Cafe on del Pilar in Ermita, the City of Manila. Almost all employees are "little people," but not the sort of talent most of us are interested in. I visited there recently and was disappointed by the downturn in food quality and entertainment. Far removed from the days when Freddie Aguilar performed there regularly.
I don't know all the scientific explanations for "little people," but presume they are mostly about heredity or "birth defects."
Diet is another factor that contributes to the prevalence of sub-five foot Filipinas that are often reported in field reports in the forum. Rice is of course the staple of Filipino diet, but in the early developmental years I believe protein and minerals are critical to bone growth. Babies and infants have disproportionately long trunks and big heads relative to the length of their legs, and absent the addition of protein and minerals, the legs may never fully develop in potential length. Thus, if you look closely at these sub-five foot Filipinas, you can see that their legs are disproportionately short relative to the upper body. I know one such woman, whose neighbors tease her about having "unano binti" (roughly, pygmy legs). This woman was raised by her grandmother (whose husband died young) in a rural area of Southern Leyte. Their diet was primarily rice, coconut, ube and other yams, mango, papaya, eggplant, and a few other plant crops and rarely a little fish or poultry. Interestingly, this protein deficient diet appears to have had little effect on the growth of her breasts.
It may be unwise to generalize from a sample of one, but I have little reason to doubt that this pattern explains a lot. A similar pattern can be seen in Koreans. Koreans in their 40s are often comparatively short, but those a generation younger yield little in height to their Western counterparts. The usual explanation is increased protein in the developmental years of the younger generation. Or perhaps it's the wonderful chemical additives that now get injected into chickens, pigs, and cattle.
Soapy Smith
04-16-18, 21:31
That is true. By the time girls come to AC, they are mostly seasoned hookers, who were fucked by hundreds of local dicks in their previous living place.
"snip"
Moreover, I would dare to say, that those hookers who behave professionally with their clients already, were drilled by at least 1000 dicks, or more by that time.Wow! You have a command of data that is almost breathtaking. Hundreds of local dicks; 1000 after they turn professional. Your username suggests you are either a Tagalog-speaking native or a Fil-Am or other overseas Filipino. But your reference to these numbers of Filipinas' sex partners and your confidence in these assertions suggest you have been engaged in some very extensive field research. Research of this type would require a lot of confidence from these women to get them to confide in you these intimate details of their sex lives. To make assertions about these as prevailing patterns would also require you to have gathered this sort of confidential information from a lot of individual Filipinas.
GE recently explained that one of the rewards for him in participating in this forum is the exchange of local knowledge with other knowledgeable foreigners and expats. The same is true for me; although this is not a forum dedicated to such things, I have picked up a lot of knowledge from the forum about the cultural and institutional backdrop for the bumping of loins activities that are the mainstay of the forum. So I would be interested to pick your brain just a bit about how you have come to the conclusions you cite about the intimate activities of these Filipinas and the mongers, foreign and Filipino, who pursue them. Can you tell us a little about yourself without revealing your identity in a way that harms you? You are the instrument of analysis that has drawn these conclusions, and I would like some basis for understanding your skills as an analyst.
California8
04-16-18, 23:23
Popped into PonyTails late one afternoon and was not even going to sit down as I viewed numerous overweight dancers. Then out of the dark came a girl dressed in normal minidress who was hands down the prettiest girl in the club (YMMV) asking me if I wanted to sit down and have a shoulder massage. I had taken club massage girls previously so I stayed to check out the second dance shift. The massage girl said she would go out only on short time but that was OK since I had to leave early for the airport. Not much change in the second dance shift so off we went to the hotel, EWR 2500 pesos. 21 year old with slender body gave a good session. No regrets.
Later in the evening went into a few other clubs on Walking Street just to get a view of the scenery for next time. On the way back, numerous very young appearing massage girls handing out their cards. Both their faces and bodies made me think teenager. I am just guessing their age but caution: 15 years old will get you 20 years!!
Cal8.
Wow! You have a command of data that is almost breathtaking.Just for jokes, I ran a calculator over some indicative numbers and quickly came up with some astonishing (to me anyway!) totals.
A late 20's working girl, or long-term expat resident, having two sessions a week for 10 years will run up 1000 partners.
A 19 year old looker in a busy house doing 2 a day for a 5 day week will see 500 guys in the first year.
Obviously there are peaks and troughs but I'd suggest the numbers above are not unreasonable for averages.
Even allowing a 50% discount for time off the job due to family, boy / girl friends etc it's still a hell of a lot.
I realise its a touchy subject but I'd suggest that a lot of guys on this board who have lived in mongering destinations would have equally high totals.
Member #4566
04-17-18, 03:10
Wow! . . .So I would be interested to pick your brain just a bit about how you have come to the conclusions you cite about the intimate activities of these Filipinas and the mongers, foreign and Filipino, who pursue them. Can you tell us a little about yourself without revealing your identity in a way that harms you? You are the instrument of analysis that has drawn these conclusions, and I would like some basis for understanding your skills as an analyst.Your show of restraint in not showing contempt for this guy's comments and just telling him that he is full of prunes is amazing. Well congratulations to you. You deserve a medal.
So many bungholes on this forum pass wild conjecture off as fact. Rumor becomes truth. Opinions if expressed often enough become black letter law. A person in country for a short respite has a few encounters and generalizes those experiences to the entire population. All this means is that ignorance begets ignorance.
SingaporeSam
04-17-18, 05:14
Hi all,
Long time lurker here, posting a quick pickpocketing warning for Angeles.
I was there for a week around a month ago and had a great time with SW's for 1000-1500 and hiso FL's for 1500 without too many sour experiences other than his one.
One of the nights I woke up at 2 am after 2 rounds earlier in the day to check out WS one last time. I was staying in Queens Hotel and as I took the right turn onto to main road, several girls shot to their feet of the pavement. In hindsight one must have done a semi circle around the back of me whilst a cute spinner approached me head on. I started negotiating with her and asked if she was a LB. At that point she gave me a hug, and I took her digits and kept walking.
100 m on I did a quick auto-check for my wallet and realise it had been stolen. I tried running back to the scene but the girls were long gone.
I started laughing at how good these chicks were as ID only had 2 drinks earlier that night. Also I make it a habit now of only having the $$ I thought I would spend maximum in my wallet. All my cards were back in my safe. End of the day the girls got 1700 p from me. Wallet was worth triple.
Lessons learnt:
- bring even less haha since if I scored a ST, I wouldn't be paying her upfront anyway.
- buy zip up shorts and pants which I now have.
- haven't replaced wallet since a month ago and doing fine keeping money in phone case.
Cheers guys and happy and safe mongering.
SouthEaster
04-17-18, 06:12
Gofer,
Don't know why you think it is a touchy subject. Many guys like keeping score about how many girls they have banged in their mongering career. Although I suspect after the first hundred it gets hard to keep track! As for girls, I used to visit a place in northern Vietnam where some of the most popular girls would do 10+ STs a day. Having been back many a time over the years (though not for a couple now) I can confirm that a few were there for more than a year, some 3 or 4 years. Do the math. 10 a day, 6 days a week, one year = over 3000 dicks. Of course that doesn't include days on the rag, holidays etc but 2000 is easily doable. How many guys will achieve that in a lifetime?
SE.
Engine Driver
04-17-18, 07:54
VicVeg,
They are to be found but they are rare and usually chubby. I have had several, though.The Hobbit Tavern in Boracay is completely staffed with midgets. If you start chatting up one of the waitresses there, I'm sure she would appreciate a date, followed by a 7 inch sausage between her axe wound.
Wow! You have a command of data that is almost breathtaking.Kudos to you Soapy. We need more posts like this to silence the trolls.
Engine Driver
04-17-18, 08:19
Man, you really have been doing a lot of dreaming. Why don't you make it happen? Get yourself a local business partner, agree the cut with LE so they can provide protection, make a donation to the mayor's election campaign, don't tread on any Korean toes and then get going.
Another cool business idea for AC:
Analinguists (get your butthole licked).Unlike their Thai sisters, Pinays find the ass very "dirty". Not too many would be interested.
Blowjob artists (girls that specialize in blowjobs, are very skilled, offer CIM, etc).Many of the blow bars on Blow Row got shut down. Not sure the same can be resurrected, although moist girls will do a reasonable BBBJ.
Luxury model escorts (the kind you can find in makati for a high price).Why would an escort charging PHP 15,000++ a night want to come to a shit hole like AC?
White (ie european) escorts.In Pattaya, there are a number of Russian / Eastern European clubs like Galaxy, Moulin Rouge etc. These were set up to cater for Russian, Indian and Arab tourists. Drinks are THB 350, LDs are THB 1,200 and a one hour bar fine with no sex is THB 5,000 plus girls fee. To actually bang a Russian hooker from these bars will cost THB 20,000 for one pop. Do you think there is a market for such in AC?
Club Aqua at ABC is a nice high end novelty in AC. But then need to bring in the high end girls to work the place that you can take out of there for some high end sex. Instead you go to Aqua and leave alone, or with a FL that you could find in HiSo.Plenty of FLs already at Aqua. Not sure what you mean by "high end sex". A fuck is a fuck. Any more "high class" in AC and the poor girl would be all dressed up with no where to go.
One thing you missed was LB bars. The LB bars have the highest revenue and profit amongst any of the bars in Nana, BKK. This is where you would make money. I'm sure a bunch of Australians or Americans would secretly love to go to a LB bar in AC.
Walking Street in AC has a fraction of the foot traffic that Walking Street has in Pattaya. If most of the bars in Pattaya are struggling, then you know that the bars in AC are not doing any better. You have seen how empty they are. Most are fronts for money laundering operations.
The equation to make a profit is:
Bar fines + drink sales + LDs > Rent + staff wages + kickbacks + supplies.
It never really works out.
Engine Driver
04-17-18, 08:34
I have fucked midgets in Brazil and used to date one in Thailand. There is also a Polish midget that you can find in Pattaya these days. Don't kiss her though, unless you want to taste my jizz.Well, she would have given you a nice blow job while standing up.
Tagalog2016
04-17-18, 15:30
Just for jokes, I ran a calculator over some indicative numbers and quickly came up with some astonishing (to me anyway!) totals.
A late 20's working girl, or long-term expat resident, having two sessions a week for 10 years will run up 1000 partners.
A 19 year old looker in a busy house doing 2 a day for a 5 day week will see 500 guys in the first year.
Obviously there are peaks and troughs but I'd suggest the numbers above are not unreasonable for averages.
Even allowing a 50% discount for time off the job due to family, boy / girl friends etc it's still a hell of a lot.
I realise its a touchy subject but I'd suggest that a lot of guys on this board who have lived in mongering destinations would have equally high totals.Yes, you are absolutely right. Numbers are shocking, but that is sad reality. For some mongers it may be a blow to their ego to realize, that an average twenty something working girl is in fact nothing more than an overused hole, banged by 1000 dicks.
Specificities of anatomy of Asian women allow many Pinays to remain tight for years or even decades, which can give an impression, that a girl is just lightly used.
I think, that your calculations are very reasonable, and a simple mathematics in such case is the most credible evidence.
Your username suggests you are either a Tagalog-speaking native or a Fil-Am or other overseas Filipino. I am Russian. I don't want to reveal personal details about myself, but everything I write on here is based on my experience.
Man, you really have been doing a lot of dreaming. Why don't you make it happen? Get yourself a local business partner, agree the cut with LE so they can provide protection, make a donation to the mayor's election campaign, don't tread on any Korean toes and then get going.
Unlike their Thai sisters, Pinays find the ass very "dirty". Not too many would be interested.
Many of the blow bars on Blow Row got shut down. Not sure the same can be resurrected, although moist girls will do a reasonable BBBJ.
Why would an escort charging PHP 15,000++ a night want to come to a shit hole like AC?
In Pattaya, there are a number of Russian / Eastern European clubs like Galaxy, Moulin Rouge etc. These were set up to cater for Russian, Indian and Arab tourists. Drinks are THB 350, LDs are THB 1,200 and a one hour bar fine with no sex is THB 5,000 plus girls fee. To actually bang a Russian hooker from these bars will cost THB 20,000 for one pop. Do you think there is a market for such in AC?
Plenty of FLs already at Aqua. Not sure what you mean by "high end sex". A fuck is a fuck. Any more "high class" in AC and the poor girl would be all dressed up with no where to go.
One thing you missed was LB bars. The LB bars have the highest revenue and profit amongst any of the bars in Nana, BKK. This is where you would make money. I'm sure a bunch of Australians or Americans would secretly love to go to a LB bar in AC.
Walking Street in AC has a fraction of the foot traffic that Walking Street has in Pattaya. If most of the bars in Pattaya are struggling, then you know that the bars in AC are not doing any better. You have seen how empty they are. Most are fronts for money laundering operations.
The equation to make a profit is:
Bar fines + drink sales + LDs > Rent + staff wages + kickbacks + supplies.
It never really works out.You have burst another Walter Mitty pipe dream. I have seen a few know it all and can do it better foreigners cash their pension fund to open a bar business in AC and promptly fail. They blamed it on many things but for starters it was lack of any business skills and experience.
Hi all,
Long time lurker here, posting a quick pickpocketing warning for Angeles.
I was there for a week around a month ago and had a great time with SW's for 1000-1500 and hiso FL's for 1500 without too many sour experiences other than his one.
One of the nights I woke up at 2 am after 2 rounds earlier in the day to check out WS one last time. I was staying in Queens Hotel and as I took the right turn onto to main road, several girls shot to their feet of the pavement. In hindsight one must have done a semi circle around the back of me whilst a cute spinner approached me head on. I started negotiating with her and asked if she was a LB. At that point she gave me a hug, and I took her digits and kept walking.
100 m on I did a quick auto-check for my wallet and realise it had been stolen. I tried running back to the scene but the girls were long gone.
I started laughing at how good these chicks were as ID only had 2 drinks earlier that night. Also I make it a habit now of only having the $$ I thought I would spend maximum in my wallet. All my cards were back in my safe. End of the day the girls got 1700 p from me. Wallet was worth triple.
Lessons learnt:
- bring even less haha since if I scored a ST, I wouldn't be paying her upfront anyway.
- buy zip up shorts and pants which I now have.
- haven't replaced wallet since a month ago and doing fine keeping money in phone case.
Cheers guys and happy and safe mongering.I guess you can say that they took care of that bulge in your pants pretty quickly!
Never go out with more than you could lose. I carry enough for drinks, food, tips and barfine. I try not to need to open the safe when the girl is present in the room. If I do then I wait until she is in the CR.
For fun someone should carry a wad of fake money in an envelope in their back pocket!
Mr Enternational
04-17-18, 17:14
I guess you can say that they took care of that bulge in your pants pretty quickly!
Never go out with more than you could lose. I carry enough for drinks, food, tips and barfine.How about not letting someone touch you or get close to you while you are in the street? Seriously. When do you ever see people walking down the street hugging total strangers or grabbing their dicks, UNLESS they are trying to pickpocket them? Some people leave their common sense at the airport when they touchdown in a mongering country.
Eszpresszo
04-17-18, 18:15
How about not letting someone touch you or get close to you while you are in the street? Seriously. When do you ever see people walking down the street hugging total strangers or grabbing their dicks, UNLESS they are trying to pickpocket them? Some people leave their common sense at the airport when they touchdown in a mongering country.Seriously, how about not belittling other board members with comments like "some people leave their common sense at the airport."
When do you see people walking down the street hugging total strangers or grabbing their dicks? I think an experienced monger would know the answer to that, and will tell you that's what happens when a prostitute wants your business really bad. Pickpocketing could be a motive for some of them.
And for someone who claims to be such an experienced, all-knowing and omnipresent monger, you should know that in real life you can't always control who gets close to you, or stop a determined hoe from latching onto you. Its not like you can just turn on your deflector shield and maintain an arms length from your wallet. You've obviously never been on a crowded sidewalk in a big city, ridden a subway at rush hour, or been to a crowded public event like a concert.
Just for jokes, I ran a calculator over some indicative numbers and quickly came up with some astonishing (to me anyway!) totals.
A late 20's working girl, or long-term expat resident, having two sessions a week for 10 years will run up 1000 partners.
A 19 year old looker in a busy house doing 2 a day for a 5 day week will see 500 guys in the first year.
Obviously there are peaks and troughs but I'd suggest the numbers above are not unreasonable for averages.
Even allowing a 50% discount for time off the job due to family, boy / girl friends etc it's still a hell of a lot.
I realise its a touchy subject but I'd suggest that a lot of guys on this board who have lived in mongering destinations would have equally high totals.For the record the guys trump the girls. The woman with the record number of men serviced is notorious hooker Xaviera Hollander (the Happy Hooker) with about 5000. The record for men is porn star John Holmes with 20,000 women.
Mr Enternational
04-17-18, 20:42
in real life you can't always control who gets close to you, or stop a determined hoe from latching onto you. Its not like you can just turn on your deflector shield and maintain an arms length from your wallet. You've obviously never been on a crowded sidewalk in a big city, ridden a subway at rush hour, or been to a crowded public event like a concert.Yes, because at 2am Fields in AC is just as crowded as a big city subway at rush hour. He said nothing about anyone rushing him, attacking him, or latching on to him. He said that he negotiated with the girl, asked if she was a ladyboy, and she (or he) gave him a hug. Afterwhich he noticed his wallet missing.
I generally walk with my hands in my pockets and do not let anyone get up on me like that. And I definitely do not carry a wallet around in a monger area. I guess it is just the hood in me that knows better. I am not the richest guy on the board so I can't afford to lose 6800 pesos on some bullshit.
There are 2 that work (waitresses) on Fields. One used to work at the small bar next to Dollhouse or Atlantis where they have the pizza (I am really not too familiar with the names of bars.) I think it is closed now. I was going to fuck that one but then my girlfriend was on the way to the hotel so I had to go. I told my buddies that live there and the next time they pointed out a 60 year old troll looking midget. I said no way man. I know you didn't think I was talking about her. If you sit at Kokomo's you see them going back and forth to work sometimes.
I have fucked midgets in Brazil and used to date one in Thailand. There is also a Polish midget that you can find in Pattaya these days. Don't kiss her though, unless you want to taste my jizz.You guys have boned midgets?? LOL. I was just joking. Past 40, it is hard enough keeping an erection. But to have to look down at a 3' tall ugly (most midgets are Fugly) girl is a boner killer. Plus their axe wound must be a nasty sight to see. That is some real kink guys!!
Here is another kink for AC to get for the high end monger: S&M. Mongers can pay to get whipped / pissed on / pegged (ie fucked with a strap on). Could be fun! Just don't let her hand cuff you, else you could wake up missing your cash, and possibly a kidney LOL.
But I am sure the real kinky guys are already getting pegged by the TS's standing in front of phillies. That is some real kink to suck some hooker cock. It is not for me, but to each their own. I know it is happening as all those TS's arent out there every night if they werent making any money.
How about post-op Trannies? Not too many in the PI. You know some high-end punters would fly to AC to stick it in a man-made vagina. That is some real kink!
SingaporeSam
04-18-18, 02:06
Yes, because at 2am Fields in AC is just as crowded as a big city subway at rush hour. He said nothing about anyone rushing him, attacking him, or latching on to him. He said that he negotiated with the girl, asked if she was a ladyboy, and she (or he) gave him a hug. Afterwhich he noticed his wallet missing.
I generally walk with my hands in my pockets and do not let anyone get up on me like that. And I definitely do not carry a wallet around in a monger area. I guess it is just the hood in me that knows better. I am not the richest guy on the board so I can't afford to lose 6800 pesos on some bullshit.Your hardcore Mr E. . yes I'll heed the advice (or take the pineapple). If your around, I'm going back in for 10 nights from tonight. I'll buy you a beer or 2 from my new (cheaper) wallet.
Why is this even an argument? They are hookers and they fuck for a living. That is, they fuck to earn money to feed themselves and their families. She gets paid by the dick, not by the hour. She would have to be one shitty hooker if she hasn't had 1000 dicks.
And what is this shit with guys having to have new hookers? In any other business or service relationship you go in looking for the person that you are sure knows what the fuck they are doing. Nobody goes to a mechanic shop looking for the guy that has only done 3 tune-ups. Nobody goes to a lawyers office looking for an attorney that just got out of law school. Yet you go into a prositution den looking for a chick that just got into the business, then complain when she doesn't know what she is doing, is a starfish, or she is a runner. Give me a fucking break. I guess it is all in the fantasy though, to have a neophyte hooker that has experience.
The fact of the matter is if the chick is new then she is not going to know what she is doing. If she does, then she ain't really new at this. But I guess it helps feed your ego to trick yourself into thinking that yours is only the fourth dick that a prostitute has had.Excellent post. I agree with you 100%. Wish all mongers had a realistic view like this one.
Pradeen Baba
04-18-18, 16:36
Why is this even an argument? They are hookers and they fuck for a living. That is, they fuck to earn money to feed themselves and their families. She gets paid by the dick, not by the hour. She would have to be one shitty hooker if she hasn't had 1000 dicks.
And what is this shit with guys having to have new hookers? In any other business or service relationship you go in looking for the person that you are sure knows what the fuck they are doing. Nobody goes to a mechanic shop looking for the guy that has only done 3 tune-ups. Nobody goes to a lawyers office looking for an attorney that just got out of law school. Yet you go into a prositution den looking for a chick that just got into the business, then complain when she doesn't know what she is doing, is a starfish, or she is a runner. Give me a fucking break. I guess it is all in the fantasy though, to have a neophyte hooker that has experience.
The fact of the matter is if the chick is new then she is not going to know what she is doing. If she does, then she ain't really new at this. But I guess it helps feed your ego to trick yourself into thinking that yours is only the fourth dick that a prostitute has had.Agreed. Agreed. And agreed 100 times.
Sometimes a seasoned pro will give us the best kinky stuff that we never experienced and flatter our ego too.
Awesome and realistic post.
Excellent post. I agree with you 100%. Wish all mongers had a realistic view like this one.If you like crude observations than yes, he's the greatest. I'm happy I'll never see things in a crude light except maybe politics.
Reading his post is like reading a detailed bathroom lesson in wiping the shit off your butthole.
Some things need not be said but he says them all the time. Good for you that he's a fixture here.
What would we do w / out him? LOL.
UsaInEurope
04-19-18, 04:13
It's really not complicated.
- Does she seem into me on some level beyond just financial?
- Do I dig how she looks and how she makes me feel?
- Is the price reasonable for the market?
Then go!
We're not making life-changing financial decisions here.
Excellent post. I agree with you 100%. Wish all mongers had a realistic view like this one.You are quoting a post from the thread 'Chat Rooms & Pen Pals' because I have accidentally taken the discussion that was going on in this thread to that thread. Apologies for that.
Anyway, it might have been an excellent post if Mr. E. had taken the time to read what the discussion that I replied to is all about. He totally missed the point.
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I've been in Manila, going with 98% bareback sex, using various channels to find girls and different strategies.
I haven't been to AC yet, but it is the most popular. I'm not kinky and I have no fetishes, but I don't care for covered sex.
Is AC good or bad for bareback full service? Any strategies, anyone out there that's a no-condom only monger?
WestCoast1
04-20-18, 01:51
So if a vagina that has had 100's of dicks in it is gross, then what about a dick that has been in 100's of asses? Is that ok to you TS lovers?
I wouldn't have an opinion as I am a vagina-lover only. I don't even like girl's buttholes.They say that where there is smoke, there is fire. . .
I've been in Manila, going with 98% bareback sex, using various channels to find girls and different strategies.
I haven't been to AC yet, but it is the most popular. I'm not kinky and I have no fetishes, but I don't care for covered sex.
Is AC good or bad for bareback full service? Any strategies, anyone out there that's a no-condom only monger?Asian countries and their girls are used to bareback sex only. Since foreigners came and brought varied sexually transmitted diseases many girls have wised up and insist on condoms.
But Philippines is the lone exemption in this regard even now. Most girls irrespective of bargirl or otherwise do not insist on condoms. Angeles City girls are also the same.
Any bareback sex has its own risks. It has nothing to do with how many dicks have gone in where yours is going. Angeles City girls have been fucking for ages. There is no real study to see how much is the risk. Antibiotics prophylaxis prevents some common bugs. Generally is advisable to get yourself checked out after your journey is over.
Member #4566
04-20-18, 03:54
With all the recent talk about a working pinay's dick count, I have a question.
I know this is not really a gay blog, but once in a while there is talk about sex with TS's.The ISG has proscribed discussions regarding shemales, trannies, and Gay sex. Read the ISG policy and guidelines on this subject. I would think that an exception is carved out for lesbian sex in a threesome with a male.
BTW. . . The LGBT community would have you believe that sexuality is on a spectrum and that sexual preference exists on a continuum. This is is to say that every so-called straight person has some gayness and that the most effeminate nellie is part straight. It is argued that differences are only a matter of degree.
Bullshit. You are gay or you are not gay.
Asian countries and their girls are used to bareback sex only. Since foreigners came and brought varied sexually transmitted diseases many girls have wised up and insist on condoms.
But Philippines is the lone exemption in this regard even now. Most girls irrespective of bargirl or otherwise do not insist on condoms. Angeles City girls are also the same.
Any bareback sex has its own risks. It has nothing to do with how many dicks have gone in where yours is going. Angeles City girls have been fucking for ages. There is no real study to see how much is the risk. Antibiotics prophylaxis prevents some common bugs. Generally is advisable to get yourself checked out after your journey is over.Is this your experience in AC, most bar girls and freelance girls don't insist on condoms and do not UP sell for bareback?
My experience with any girls in Manila who have any kind of management, or agency insist on condoms. I've only had one bar girl, bar fining girl, on EDSA which insisted on condoms.
For the record the guys trump the girls. The woman with the record number of men serviced is notorious hooker Xaviera Hollander (the Happy Hooker) with about 5000. The record for men is porn star John Holmes with 20,000 women.Didn't Wilt Chamberlain also claim 20,000?
Someday someone soon will get their little Willy into something warm, wet and pleasurable like a vagina and write a report on it. I can only hope.
Engine Driver
04-20-18, 07:06
Does it bother you that a lady boy's dick has been in 100's of buttholes? Are you still ok to put that in your mouth? What if he is not circumcised? Is there a worry about grossness being under the dick hood?
I wouldn't have an opinion as I am a vagina-lover only. I don't even like girl's buttholes.I don't believe you. I think you are a closet homo. Only a queer would ask such questions on a female prostitution board. You are one seriously demented dude.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=closet%20homo
Bullshit. You are gay or you are not gay.Actually I think YOUR statement is bullshit. What about bisexual people for example? Let's say they equally like men and women, so they are 50% homosexual and 50% heterosexual.
According to your statement however they are not homosexual and at the same time not heterosexual. That makes no sense.
They say that where there is smoke, there is fire. . .If there's smoke or even fire coming out of the ass you are banging her / him too hard.
Soapy Smith
04-20-18, 10:09
Didn't Wilt Chamberlain also claim 20,000?Only 10,000. Over a period of time Saturday Night Live offered two different sketches making light of Wilt's claim. Black actors, Hammer and Tim Meadows, played the Chamberlain role with great glee. I think many people did not take Wilt seriously. For that matter, there was never any evidence for Ms. Hollander's feat other than her self-report. Most women would probably not want to make such a claim, but in Ms. Hollander's case it probably juiced up attention for her books and erotic stories in men's magazines.
Asian countries and their girls are used to bareback sex only. Since foreigners came and brought varied sexually transmitted diseases many girls have wised up and insist on condoms.
But Philippines is the lone exemption in this regard even now. Most girls irrespective of bargirl or otherwise do not insist on condoms. Angeles City girls are also the same.
Any bareback sex has its own risks. It has nothing to do with how many dicks have gone in where yours is going. Angeles City girls have been fucking for ages. There is no real study to see how much is the risk. Antibiotics prophylaxis prevents some common bugs. Generally is advisable to get yourself checked out after your journey is over.I never use condoms, lately I hear about them but in the room almost all girls forget about them. 2 days ago I had 2 girls together and one girk got a condom out, I told her I don't use them so she put it away. In general they don't seem to care about getting pregnant. I use microbicide, and somtimes take doxycycline. As time goes in more girls are getting on the pill.
Asian countries and their girls are used to bareback sex only. Since foreigners came and brought varied sexually transmitted diseases many girls have wised up and insist on condoms.Dante can also expect girls to insist on condom use face to face or online only to mysteriously forget when they are back in the room.
I had a girl in Subic, who new my preferences, insist I go out and buy a box before she would head over. In the room, I barely had time to undress before she was pulling me inside her.
If it's a deal breaker, check before you pay but I've never had anyone point blank refuse when the lights go out.
Soapy Smith
04-20-18, 10:34
BTW. . . The LGBT community would have you believe that sexuality is on a spectrum and that sexual preference exists on a continuum. This is is to say that every so-called straight person has some gayness and that the most effeminate nellie is part straight. It is argued that differences are only a matter of degree.
Bullshit. You are gay or you are not gay.The LGBT community did not invent the idea of a continuum. It came from the research of Alfred Kinsey and associates in the late 1940's. The continuum is sometimes referred to as the Kinsey Scale. It suggests that about 10% of individuals are purely heterosexual and 10% are purely homosexual. The other 80% occupy a continuum in which they are predominantly of one orientation and more limitedly of the other orientation. The midpoint is a 50/50 bisexual orientation.
Kinsey himself was apparently bisexual, and he has been criticized for employing sampling methods that led disproportionate numbers of gay and bisexual people into his studies. I think his principle of a continuum is generally accepted by contemporary sexologists, but not the proportions of bisexual people in the general population that Kinsey reported.
The term "preference" implies that people have a choice about their sexual attractions. Some would argue that for many people the orientation is genetic.
I am glad this forum has a prohibition against posting about LB and other gay activities. But I think misinformation is also not very productive. I have gotten to know many gays and lesbians and I sometimes hug other men, straight and gay. So far I've never caught homosexuality from any of these people.
I never use condoms, In general they don't seem to care about getting pregnant. I use microbicide, and somtimes take doxycycline. As time goes in more girls are getting on the pill.Its always amazed me at the number of (semi) professional girls who are not on the pill yet are happy to bare back. Sure the level of education and knowledge of basic biology is very low. However, they seem fine with bare backing and having guys creampie "just this once".
I'm guessing that a few doses and coat hanger abortions lowers fertility to the point that the pregnancy rates drop and the perceived negatives of weight gain and bad skin seem not worth it.
Asian countries and their girls are used to bareback sex only.
Generally is advisable to get yourself checked out after your journey is over.You know when its been a good trip when your tests all comes back negative and you ask for a second opinion. . . LOL.
Wicked Roger
04-20-18, 16:45
Its always amazed me at the number of (semi) professional girls who are not on the pill yet are happy to bare back. Sure the level of education and knowledge of basic biology is very low. However, they seem fine with bare backing and having guys creampie "just this once".
I'm guessing that a few doses and coat hanger abortions lowers fertility to the point that the pregnancy rates drop and the perceived negatives of weight gain and bad skin seem not worth it.Many I chat and see tell me they won't take as had bad side effects. This they tell they know from the church or mom (who mainly is a religious freak). They like the feeling of bareback also and hate condoms as say the latex can give them bad rashes etc. Lots of excuses which mean some use the after morning pills at times.
Some mongers bring wit them and make the girl take after he cream pies her. No choice and this can be every day while he shags here. That I don't like as there are side effects of that.
If you need a cream pie do it anally LOL as she can never get pregnant that way (but may still tell you that you are the Dad when trouble hits LOL).
Some still believe you can get pregnant by shagging in certain positions or you if you go the toilet immediately after. I can try and educate but at times I will give up as religion seems to be the real news not the facts most of know about.
OlderMan4U
04-20-18, 23:54
Thank you all for the honest reporting on barebacking in Angeles City.
I have never been to the P. I. And have spent most of my time and money on working girls in Bangkok and Pattaya. From my experiences there mostly gogo's and soapy massages, the girls are pretty good about asking for and using condoms. I never like to pressure the girls into doing something they are not comfortable with, so I used them (I have also been to Tijuana several times, and the girls in the clubs like Hong Kong are good about using condoms also, which is fine by me since I prefer to be covered with those girls).
There have been a few Thai bargirls that were OK without condoms but again most of them wanted to use them. At my age it is hard to maintain an erection and as you know condoms do not help in that regard. It does not help that many bargirls in Thailand seem to be more jaded and business like than before and combine that with condoms and it's not that fun anymore.
I plan on trying A. See. Next time seeing that the girls there appear less inclined to use protection based on the reports here. Of course I don't want to pressure any girls but hoping it is something that just happens naturally with them back in the room. I don't like to finish inside of them though, I prefer to pull out and do it over their stomach.
California8
04-21-18, 00:44
Is this your experience in AC, most bar girls and freelance girls don't insist on condoms and do not UP sell for bareback?
My experience with any girls in Manila who have any kind of management, or agency insist on condoms. I've only had one bar girl, bar fining girl, on EDSA which insisted on condoms.Last week during my short stay to AC, both girls from bars asked if I had condoms, which I do use but they did not have with them so I assume if I did not have condoms, bareback was on offer. Both in early 20's and one said 'her baby has no father' and the other said 'the father ran off'.
Cal8.
Its always amazed me at the number of (semi) professional girls who are not on the pill yet are happy to bare back. Sure the level of education and knowledge of basic biology is very low. However, they seem fine with bare backing and having guys creampie "just this once".
I'm guessing that a few doses and coat hanger abortions lowers fertility to the point that the pregnancy rates drop and the perceived negatives of weight gain and bad skin seem not worth it.There's a mentality that many of the Pinays have, which I discovered after living in a poor village (where many of these girls come from) for about 5 years. It's hard for we Westerners to understand it but.
They don't think of that baby as a burden after the dude runs off to another island. To most of them and their families it is a "bundle of joy". They welcome that baby with love and all the family and some of.
The village will pitch in to take care of it. Even orphaned kids are taken in and looked after by the village. They aren't always "adopted" by one family but they stay at one house for a few days and move on.
To another after that. I've witnessed that a few times. The Filipino love for children is a beautiful thing.
BrainDrain
04-21-18, 01:17
Last week during my short stay to AC, both girls from bars asked if I had condoms, which I do use but they did not have with them so I assume if I did not have condoms, bareback was on offer. Both in early 20's and one said 'her baby has no father' and the other said 'the father ran off'.
Cal8.It's a vexed question and one that is well discussed in the form.
When I look back to my personal medical history, I have only become infected when I indiscriminately barebacked filipinas. In one week last year prior to a trip back home I was really stupid. Over the week barebacked four different filipina between AC and HK and got tested when I got home. Clymadia & Gonorrhoea where my souvenirs. Both solved within 24 hours back home. I've adjusted my method as mentioned in the Chatrooms forum.
Earlier Dg8787 lamented that this forum didn't have enough talk about pussy.
Now, as for current action in Angeles situation is normal. I'm just rotating through a number of known performers. This is keeping me out of the bars.
One girl is a wechat girl that is there for anyone to find. She's my BJ queen. Her wechat profile is very girl next door. She has a son at home so she needs some work to get her. (always condom sex).
One girl is out of work call center girl. Kind of my wild girl but cannot come until aft 9 pm. Maybe she tells her family she's going to her legitimate night shift (always condom sex).
One girl is a real nurse and serious no condoms.
One girl is a uni student and OMG so much fun. No condoms.
One girl is a province girl and needs a flight to / from AC so I get her a week at a time. No condoms.
All up Angeles City continues to be a great place to visit and work.
Happy weekend peoples.
BD.
Morning after pill is not sold in philippines. , doxycycline was readily available in pharmacy's without prescription until early this year, now need prescription. All daily birth control pills are available without prescription.
Morning after pill is not sold in philippines. , doxycycline was readily available in pharmacy's without prescription until early this year, now need prescription. All daily birth control pills are available without prescription.There are plenty of labs, clinics, hospitals and doctors to get tested before you leave. Even get your girls tested before barebacking. No need to be embarrassed getting a STD test done in AC or anywhere.
There are plenty of labs, clinics, hospitals and doctors to get tested before you leave. Even get your girls tested before barebacking. No need to be embarrassed getting a STD test done in AC or anywhere.I know a bro that goes to AC twice a year for weeks at a time and rides all 3 holes bareback and must be with a chick-a-day, on average. That is really risky I think. Yet he has never caught anything. I think some guys just have good DNA for avoiding disease. Else his luck will run out and he will catch some Hep see, HIV or get a girl PG. He also eats ass, and cream pies chicks all the time. That is just down right wrong in my book. So risky to expose naive girls to disease and pregnancy.
Just imagine the girls that have to BBBJ his uncircumcised cock that is in dozens of asses a year. Just plain out gross.
Let's work to keep AC the clean gem of a Sin City it is guys! Wrap it up, don't cum in pussys, and don't force naive girls to suck off your cocks! Allow CBJ's if you are engaging in high-risk sexual activity!
Chocha Monger
04-21-18, 05:43
Morning after pill is not sold in philippines. , doxycycline was readily available in pharmacy's without prescription until early this year, now need prescription. All daily birth control pills are available without prescription.The pharmacies cut off the doxycycline sales without a prescription because too many mongers were self-medicating whenever they felt an itch inside their pricks. It was contributing to the emergence of novel strains of multi-drug resistant gonorrhea, which mongers take back to the Western world.
The medical community fears a return to the days when the only gonorrhea medications were dried and powdered cubebs, an Indonesian pepper, and balsam of copaiba obtained from a South American tree. Up to the mid-1930's, routine treatment of acute gonorrhea took 45 days, and chronic gonorrhea took 95 days. Complete treatment required injecting Mercurochrome into the urethra or irrigation of potassium permanganate into the seminal vesicles. Ouch!
The first effective treatment for gonorrhea came in 1937, in the form of the sulfonamide drugs. In 1943, gonorrhea had already become resistant to the sulfonamide drugs, and doctors switched to penicillin. In 1946, gonorrhea developed strains resistant to penicillin. By 1983, there was a huge increase in penicillin resistant gonorrhea in USA Military personnel returning from East Asia. In 1980, testing of specimens from Philippine clinics revealed that 30 to 40% were resistant.
Since then new antibiotics replaced penicillin, such as tetracycline, spectinomycin, and ceftriaxone. Each one was effective at first, but gonorrhea always started developing resistance after a few years eventually rendering treatment with those antibiotics ineffective. The sale of antibiotics without prescriptions to mongers and hookers in Southeast Asian fleshpots creates a huge petri dish where new strains of gonococci from all over the world can encounter and develop resistance to the drugs. Mongers then import the new and improved sex bugs upon returning to their countries or traveling on to other countries to continue recreational coitus.
OlderMan4U
04-21-18, 06:04
The pharmacies cut off the doxycycline sales without a prescription because too many mongers were self-medicating whenever they felt an itch inside their pricks. It was contributing to the emergence of novel strains of multi-drug resistant gonorrhea, which mongers take back to the Western world.
The medical community fears a return to the days when the only gonorrhea medications were dried and powdered cubebs, an Indonesian pepper, and balsam of copaiba obtained from a South American tree. Up to the mid-1930's, routine treatment of acute gonorrhea took 45 days, and chronic gonorrhea took 95 days. Complete treatment required injecting Mercurochrome into the urethra or irrigation of potassium permanganate into the seminal vesicles. Ouch!
The first effective treatment for gonorrhea came in 1937, in the form of the sulfonamide drugs. In 1943, gonorrhea had already become resistant to the sulfonamide drugs, and doctors switched to penicillin. In 1946, gonorrhea developed strains resistant to penicillin. By 1983, there was a huge increase in penicillin resistant gonorrhea in USA Military personnel returning from East Asia. In 1980, testing of specimens from Philippine clinics revealed that 30 to 40% were resistant.
Since then new antibiotics replaced penicillin, such as tetracycline, spectinomycin, and ceftriaxone. Each one was effective at first, but gonorrhea always started developing resistance after a few years eventually rendering treatment with those antibiotics ineffective. The sale of antibiotics without prescriptions to mongers and hookers in Southeast Asian fleshpots creates a huge petri dish where new strains of gonococci from all over the world can encounter and develop resistance to the drugs. Mongers then import the new and improved sex bugs upon returning to their countries or traveling on to other countries to continue recreational coitus.Good points. I think the first documented case of antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the U. K. Happened earlier this year, and the guy got it from having sex with a girl from somewhere in South East Asia as per news reports.
Scary stuff but that is the price we potentially pay as I'm sure we can catch these STD's even if covered.
Dark Knight1
04-21-18, 06:19
I know a bro that goes to AC twice a year for weeks at a time and rides all 3 holes bareback and must be with a chick-a-day, on average. That is really risky I think. Yet he has never caught anything. I think some guys just have good DNA for avoiding disease. Else his luck will run out and he will catch some Hep see, HIV or get a girl PG. He also eats ass, and cream pies chicks all the time. That is just down right wrong in my book. So risky to expose naive girls to disease and pregnancy.
Just imagine the girls that have to BBBJ his uncircumcised cock that is in dozens of asses a year. Just plain out gross.
Let's work to keep AC the clean gem of a Sin City it is guys! Wrap it up, don't cum in pussys, and don't force naive girls to suck off your cocks! Allow CBJ's if you are engaging in high-risk sexual activity!Nonsense he is probably telling you he has never caught anything. If he mongers as reckless as you are saying the odds are impossible that he has never been stricken with an STD. Mongers like to lie. Its part of the sport.
CM, I seriously doubt the pharmacies got together and decided for the good of mongers not to sell Doxycycline or any other anti-biotics without a prescription. After all they are in the business to sell meds and making money.
The laws have always required prescriptions for meds, especially anti-biotics. Just the past year or so that it was finally enforced under pressure from the medical doctors organization. As evidenced by the letter posted in most pharmacies in the past year. If you had been in any Phil pharmacies you would have seen the letter.
But then again I did not have a girlfriend and would've insisted on condoms anyway back then.
The Filipino love for children is a beautiful thing.Yes it is, I see the same things as you when I go to the province with one of my regulars. They simply adore children.
Well, the women anyway. I'm not so sure about the (young) guys who knock them up and walk away LOL.
doxycycline was readily available in pharmacy's without prescription until early this year, now need prescription.That's a bummer. I just hope that when I catch something and it's pretty clear that it's either chlamydia or gonorrhoea and I go to a clinic that they give me a prescription right away? So I don't have to wait for test results which can take quite some time and meanwhile the STD gets worse.
That's a bummer. I just hope that when I catch something and it's pretty clear that it's either chlamydia or gonorrhoea and I go to a clinic that they give me a prescription right away? So I don't have to wait for test results which can take quite some time and meanwhile the STD gets worse.I think most places treat you right away based on your symptoms without waiting for test results. It is usually a [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test with results back in a day or less (in Phil). Labs in AC are pretty quick maybe within 30 minutes for the results.
The laws have always required prescriptions for meds, especially anti-biotics. Just the past year or so that it was finally enforced under pressure from the medical doctors organization. As evidenced by the letter posted in most pharmacies in the past year. If you had been in any Phil pharmacies you would have seen the letter.Pharmacies in Manila have definitely restricted purchase of antibiotics.
Just today at Mercury Drug (in Manila, not AC) a woman in front of me tried to buy 4 pieces of Co-Amoxyclav (yes seriously), and the pharmacist asked for her prescription which she didn't have.
I then made my request (for a different antibiotic without showing the script just to see) and they asked me for my prescription too (which I had in my pocket).
I had previously bought this antibiotic without any restriction.
Definite change.
RockyHardy21
04-21-18, 09:34
This bareback thing is common in SEA. If you see the woman in SEA countries, they are small, tender, comes in all colors all size but still make you feel a man. With them you will feel like a woman who adore his man. In general most of them still god fearing.
So they believe one day the white man will come, marry them and give a good life.
Educations or science was never an interest for most of them, they still believe someone who got disease will look sick.
So when a man with wallet full of green paper, promise them a good time, they don't question much. Many of them will ask you condom just before you are about to put your anaconda in their holly river. And if you say no condom, she will make face buy again she will let her loose.
So I believe bareback is a social thing for them.
Azmodeus Fl
04-21-18, 14:06
Last time I was in the Philippines I had a young college student who wanted me to bareback her. I refused due to the fact that later I did not want to have a claim that I fathered a child and she needs support.
Soapy Smith
04-21-18, 14:17
Pharmacies in Manila have definitely restricted purchase of antibiotics.
I then made my request (for a different antibiotic without showing the script just to see) and they asked me for my prescription too (which I had in my pocket).
I had previously bought this antibiotic without any restriction.
Definite change.There's another problem in asking for only four pieces, which pharmacists know won't work and may contribute to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Do you think it would have made a difference if you had written on paper the name of the antibiotic, the specific dosage, and a number such as 14 or 20, which suggests you understand the regimen that's required?
OlderMan4U
04-21-18, 17:09
Can anyone tell me what the hassle factor is like in Angeles City in terms of beggars? Especially little kids?
I'm looking at staying around the Fields Avenue area where all the bars are.
Manfield04
04-21-18, 18:45
I once had a non pro girl. She requested not to bareback her as she was not on pills. By her looks you could make out that she was feeling guilty. So may be non pro girls don't mind bare backing or will not insist on the use of condoms.
Parasitius
04-22-18, 01:59
I know a bro that goes to AC twice a year for weeks at a time and rides all 3 holes bareback and must be with a chick-a-day, on average. That is really risky I think. Yet he has never caught anything. I think some guys just have good DNA for avoiding disease. Else his luck will run out and he will catch some Hep see, HIV or get a girl PG. He also eats ass, and cream pies chicks all the time. That is just down right wrong in my book. So risky to expose naive girls to disease and pregnancy.
All I'm going to say: what a lucky bastard.
I'm sure there are some newbies on here now convinced it is a good idea. If you want to know your odds from non-superman, I'll tell you out of 5 trips I caught something on 4. So there's that data point for y'all.
GoodEnough
04-22-18, 02:12
This bareback thing is common in SEA.
So I believe bareback is a social thing for them.No. It's not a "social thing. " For the most part it's an "ignorance" thing. Many adhere to the ridiculous anti-birth control dicta of the Catholic Church, and others are gullible. In many cases the population being discussed on this forum never finished school, are utterly naïve, and live in a world of perpetual ignorance.
GE.
Can anyone tell me what the hassle factor is like in Angeles City in terms of beggars? Especially little kids?
I'm looking at staying around the Fields Avenue area where all the bars are.Its bad. Not little kids so much. Sometimes leech-parents do have little kids pursue you with open hands looking for money. I usually keep some coins and give it to a kid. They don't know it is just a few pesos.
The worst are the teenage boys selling cigarettes etc. I had one touch me once trying to get my attention. I turned around with a fist raised to back him off. And swore at him and he backed away.
But get use to turning off the world. You will hear the words 'Viagra, cialis' about every 10 feet. And then 'trike'. Don't even hear them. They know most won't acknowledge them and will stop asking.
You would think they would get something more creative than selling the same thing every other guy is.
When I was on Burgos st. In Makati, there was an older chick that could see I wasn't into her massage service, so showed me her young friend she was to 'give to me'. I might of gone for it but she wasn't cute. But at least it showed some business sense. Few seem to have it in the PI.
There's another problem in asking for only four pieces, which pharmacists know won't work and may contribute to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Do you think it would have made a difference if you had written on paper the name of the antibiotic, the specific dosage, and a number such as 14 or 20, which suggests you understand the regimen that's required?That was the unsaid point in my post Soapy when I said "four pieces (yes seriously)", because the proper regimen is actually a full course of 21 pieces (7 days at 3/ day or 7 days at 2 / day for the stronger dosage).
Re your question: I requested a full box of my prescribed antibiotic once when I had forgotten my script. They refused. I explained to the actual pharmacist on duty how I knew the protocols regarding antiobiotics and I would take the full regime but she still wouldn't give me the goods without the script.
I must admit that I went to another pharmacy (same chain) and this time, after initially saying no, the pharmacist gave me the required dose.
Mr Enternational
04-22-18, 07:21
Can anyone tell me what the hassle factor is like in Angeles City in terms of beggars? Especially little kids?
I'm looking at staying around the Fields Avenue area where all the bars are.It is the worst of any place that I have seen in the world. At least in places like Brazil they will ask to shine your shoes or in Thailand they will try to sell you a rope light, but in AC they just come to you with their hands out; kids and adults. The kids will even touch on you and pull your clothes. And they will follow you too. I usually point at someone else and say he is rich to get them away from me.
You would think they would get something more creative than selling the same thing every other guy is.
Isn't this more about them not having the resources/opportunities to do much more than selling the same thing than being creative?
The worst are the teenage boys selling cigarettes etc.
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You would think they would get something more creative than selling the same thing every other guy is.
I agree that most of them are selling the same things: viagra, cialis, dvd's, 'new' phones, belts, wallets, t-shirts etc.
But there are exceptions, there are also guys selling calendars, crabs, puppies, carpets, fruit and handmade wood carvings. And the occasional women or kids selling rice cake (or whatever that sloppy stuff is called).
If I recall correctly there were hardly any cigarette sellers anymore last time I was in AC (August last year). This might have to do with the smoking ban order I guess?
Chocha Monger
04-22-18, 09:08
That was the unsaid point in my post Soapy when I said "four pieces (yes seriously)", because the proper regimen is actually a full course of 21 pieces (7 days at 3/ day or 7 days at 2 / day for the stronger dosage).
Re your question: I requested a full box of my prescribed antibiotic once when I had forgotten my script. They refused. I explained to the actual pharmacist on duty how I knew the protocols regarding antiobiotics and I would take the full regime but she still wouldn't give me the goods without the script.
I must admit that I went to another pharmacy (same chain) and this time, after initially saying no, the pharmacist gave me the required dose.Eventually, not even buying the full course of antibiotics will convince the pharmacists to dispense without a prescription. Mongers will have to pay a visit to the hospital with their stopped up, burning, drippy or itchy cock nozzle. Hence, it is best to get over any embarrassment associated with having a sick dick. There are many cute nurses at the hospital waiting to milk and swab leaky pricks. They may giggle a bit if it is their first time seeing a foreign cock, especially a leaky one that hurts when they squeeze and swab it.
Fellas flying back home will have to factor in incubation periods, STD testing, and a visit to the doctor for treatment, as many were improperly self-medicating without the jab of ceftriaxone that accompanied the oral azithromycin. It may be best to get an infected cock sorted out before a long grueling flight home with an itchy urethra.
Anyway, the fellas who used to pop antibiotics before going on their bareback rampage of all and sundry in Angeles City are going to have to rethink their strategy.
All I'm going to say: what a lucky bastard.
I'm sure there are some newbies on here now convinced it is a good idea. If you want to know your odds from non-superman, I'll tell you out of 5 trips I caught something on 4. So there's that data point for y'all.Statistically your data point doesn't mean anything. And neither does supermans data point. If something happens one time per year on average it doesn't mean that it happens exactly one time every year. One year it can happen twice and the next year zero times. Or it doesn't happen for 3 years in a row and then it suddenly happens 3 times in 1 year.
In your case this could mean that you won't catch anything in your next 5 trips. Or only 1 time. Or 4 times again. Anything is possible.
GoodEnough
04-22-18, 12:04
It is the worst of any place that I have seen in the world. At least in places like Brazil they will ask to shine your shoes or in Thailand they will try to sell you a rope light, but in AC they just come to you with their hands out; kids and adults. The kids will even touch on you and pull your clothes. And they will follow you too. I usually point at someone else and say he is rich to get them away from me.It's bad, I agree, but try Bangladesh if you want to see something orders of magnitude worse.
Isn't this more about them not having the resources/opportunities to do much more than selling the same thing than being creative?Maybe VV can put on some creative salesmanship seminars for them.
Can anyone tell me what the hassle factor is like in Angeles City in terms of beggars? Especially little kids?
I'm looking at staying around the Fields Avenue area where all the bars are.Not so bad when I am inside the hotel banging away.
Maybe annoying but certainly not a hassle to me. Others might think different. You really have to sift through all whining and complaining along with the resident forum sky is falling conjecturers to get to the truth.
As a reference point they are no more annoying than the conjecturers here.
There's another problem in asking for only four pieces, which pharmacists know won't work and may contribute to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Do you think it would have made a difference if you had written on paper the name of the antibiotic, the specific dosage, and a number such as 14 or 20, which suggests you understand the regimen that's required?Due to lack of funds to buy all of the meds at once, they do buy a few pieces at a time. You will see the pharmacy make a notation on the prescription that they received 4 of the 7 pills and then hand the prescription back to them.
Not so bad when I am inside the hotel banging away.
Maybe annoying but certainly not a hassle to me. Others might think different. You really have to sift through all whining and complaining along with the resident forum sky is falling conjecturers to get to the truth.
.I thought the kids in Cambodia were world class champion beggars who would annoy even Joel Osteen but beggars/pan-handlers are par for the course in some of these countries. The time spent with the girls more than make up for that though.
To merge two discussions ongoing.
Why don't the street kids / beggars sell antibiotics? LOL.
To merge two discussions ongoing.
Why don't the street kids / beggars sell antibiotics? LOL.KG, now you are encroaching on VV territory of new business ideas and ventures.
Why not have the bars selling them or better yet for an additional 3% of the barfine you can buy VD insurance!
Meanwhile in AC, the other night I had a previous girl come to my hotel room with a new found 18.5 yo friend. The friend was new at it in the major leagues (a walk on) and of course very shy. I questioned her if she had any minor league experience in the hood like so many have suggested and she replied none. She was short like 4' 9" with a bubble butt and a very tight V. After fingering her and getting her all wet I still had to use some lube to slowly enter her. After 5 minutes of slow short strokes she got into it. Man did she get in to it!
The previous girl had hid under the sheet and after 15 minutes was getting all horny now and ordered me to withdraw, wash off and do her. One of the fastest soap, lather and rinse in my life. During the next 10 minutes she had cum 3 times and literally fell off the horse on her last one. The walk on upon seeing her fall off the horse climbed back on and rode me hard to the finish line.
This is the AC that I know.
Mr Enternational
04-23-18, 03:46
To merge two discussions ongoing.
Why don't the street kids / beggars sell antibiotics? LOL.That is too much like work.
Soapy Smith
04-23-18, 05:39
Meanwhile in AC, the other night I had a previous girl come to my hotel room with a new found 18.5 yo friend. The friend was new at it in the major leagues (a walk on) and of course very shy. I questioned her if she had any minor league experience in the hood like so many have suggested and she replied none. She was short like 4' 9" with a bubble butt and a very tight V. After fingering her and getting her all wet I still had to use some lube to slowly enter her. After 5 minutes of slow short strokes she got into it. Man did she get in to it!So if the sweeping generalizers have it right, she will go directly from this rookie league walk-on experience to the major leagues, absorb her 1000 dicks before she's 20, and (incredibly) bypass the customary 100 local dicks.
UsaInEurope
04-23-18, 06:55
So excited for my 5 days in Angeles City coming up. Staying at ABC.
So many bars look amazing. High Society, Lollipops, Pony Tails, Viking, Bamboo, Candy Bar.
Will give reports as warranted. I've RTTF. Any last-minute advice for an AC newbie?
StudBucket
04-23-18, 07:03
So excited for my 5 days in Angeles City coming up. Staying at ABC.
So many bars look amazing. High Society, Lollipops, Pony Tails, Viking, Bamboo, Candy Bar.
Will give reports as warranted. I've RTTF. Any last-minute advice for an AC newbie?High Society is not a bar like the others on your list. It is a nightclub where you will find Freelancers that work for themselves. Enjoy your trip.
UsaInEurope
04-23-18, 07:05
High Society is not a bar like the others on your list. It is a nightclub where you will find Freelancers that work for themselves. Enjoy your trip.What if I want a girl for a couple of days to hang around with -- I guess that would be a HiSo girl? Thoughts on price for that?
What if I want a girl for a couple of days to hang around with -- I guess that would be a HiSo girl? Thoughts on price for that?You can ask the bar girl if she will stay with you for days and just pay the daily barfine. The barfine will be less than your daily ABC hotel rate.
StudBucket
04-23-18, 07:44
What if I want a girl for a couple of days to hang around with -- I guess that would be a HiSo girl? Thoughts on price for that?You can have girls stay with you multiple nights in a row from Hiso, just pay them their daily rate you negotiate which is usually 2 k - 2500 pesos nightly. Just make sure you get the Hiso's girl phone number or Whats App. For bar girls, as the previous poster just said you can just tell your her that you want to bar fine her again and you will meet her at her bar again at "x" time. Most girls don't want to switch partners and would love the idea of staying with you even the rest of your trip. I have been going steadily to AC around 5 years at least a couple of times a year so I know what I am talking about. By the way, thanks for your summary of AC, well done contribution.
UsaInEurope
04-23-18, 08:23
OK thanks.
If anyone wants to grab a beer Sat thru Mon nt, let me know
OlderMan4U
04-24-18, 06:17
Its bad. Not little kids so much. Sometimes leech-parents do have little kids pursue you with open hands looking for money. I usually keep some coins and give it to a kid. They don't know it is just a few pesos.
The worst are the teenage boys selling cigarettes etc. I had one touch me once trying to get my attention. I turned around with a fist raised to back him off. And swore at him and he backed away.
But get use to turning off the world. You will hear the words 'Viagra, cialis' about every 10 feet. And then 'trike'. Don't even hear them. They know most won't acknowledge them and will stop asking..
It is the worst of any place that I have seen in the world. At least in places like Brazil they will ask to shine your shoes or in Thailand they will try to sell you a rope light, but in AC they just come to you with their hands out; kids and adults. The kids will even touch on you and pull your clothes. And they will follow you too. I usually point at someone else and say he is rich to get them away from me.
Not so bad when I am inside the hotel banging away.
Maybe annoying but certainly not a hassle to me. Others might think different. You really have to sift through all whining and complaining along with the resident forum sky is falling conjecturers to get to the truth.
As a reference point they are no more annoying than the conjecturers here.Interesting, something to keep in mind when I visit A. C.
I'm only used to the beggars in Thailand and they are not so bad as they tend to sit there and just hold out the cup. I know some of those street hawkers can get annoying but I don't hang out where they congregate. I have not come across kids following me around and begging either.
I plan on staying in the Fields Avenue area and maybe walk over to the SM shopping center so hopefully I'll be able to ward off the beggars. I did read that it is actually technically illegal to give money to these beggars and street kids, so one risks getting in big trouble doing so.
Interesting, something to keep in mind when I visit A. C.
I'm only used to the beggars in Thailand and they are not so bad as they tend to sit there and just hold out the cup. I know some of those street hawkers can get annoying but I don't hang out where they congregate. I have not come across kids following me around and begging either.
I plan on staying in the Fields Avenue area and maybe walk over to the SM shopping center so hopefully I'll be able to ward off the beggars. I did read that it is actually technically illegal to give money to these beggars and street kids, so one risks getting in big trouble doing so.The secret in AC is to find a girl that begs for your cock. Good luck with that. Most BF's will be more than mechanical, but as far as getting lost in the sex and begging for it, begging for an orgasm etc is rare. Even if you lick her pussy until she cums hard, most won't beg for your cock. You are more likely to have a girl that just got the best pussy pounding of her life beg to go home early because (fill in the gap: baby sick, mom sick, she's sick etc etc).
The LBFM moniker for these girls is because they will give it up pretty easy. Even non-working girls will most all give it up on the first or second date. I have had professional, attractive, very religious girls that I met on FC and chatted up for a few weeks, that gave it up on the second date. So much fun! But to get her to beg for your cock? Not. They remain in control. I have had American girls that are much more vocal about their desires: fuck me hard, stick it in, I want to make love to you etc etc.
That's a bummer. I just hope that when I catch something and it's pretty clear that it's either chlamydia or gonorrhoea and I go to a clinic that they give me a prescription right away? So I don't have to wait for test results which can take quite some time and meanwhile the STD gets worse.What is worst is the strain that is resistant to antibiotics which I understand is prevalent in SEA and the Philippines in particular. In that case it does not matter whether you require a prescription or not.
Has anyone tried Sakura Nuru Massage near Eurasia Hotel? If so how was it like? Was happy ending part of the 1. 5 k quoted over the phone to me?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Prior nights to the "walk on" I had repeaters come over to the hotel. One is 20 yo now and added a few kilos around the midsection. Still in good shape with firm See's but lost the curve in the waist. The other one came without her lesbian room mate. Room mate went out of town. Too bad because she was a good fuck and I loved watching her go down on the other one until she violently climaxed!
For a few nights after the walk on I had 2 other previous girls come visit. The first one I hadn't seen for 6 months and she stayed all night. I love this one as she just knows how to dig her nails into my back during miss without drawing blood. Oh shit! Second one came around noon before her shift starting, a few hours after the other one departed. She was another tight one. I didn't last very long with her. Our deal was for 2 rounds but sadly I wasn't up to another round.
The next night the walk on texted and said her V had recovered now and wanted to come back over. She showed up with her friend and they both stayed all night. 2 rounds with the walk on and one with the friend in between. Dang, the walk on is so tight I still am using lube for entry even with forplay.
Last night I took a break. Had a 2 hour room service massage. I have been using the same masseuse for years for massages only. If you have a great masseuse, never screw it up by screwing her or getting any extras.
This morning the walk on texted and said her V has recovered again and wants to spend the night. Another girl has just finished her menstration and wants to come over. This one has the best body of anyone in PH but she doesn't climax. Still a very tight V and great body action. Scheduling will be a deliema today!
This is the AC that I know.
What if I want a girl for a couple of days to hang around with -- I guess that would be a HiSo girl? Thoughts on price for that?Money talks but does not buy happiness. So the saying goes.
Yes, you can get girls to stay with you multiple days. Question is are you happy with her or you want different girl each day?
In my experience I have found girls who I can stay with for a week and have a good time. But most of these girls are non pros.
Long time ago when AC was different I have kept bargirls for a few days. These are usually childless and free. I just hand them over barfine and they go pay the bar. This came to end when one nice girl told me girls at the bar are free to come and go as they please. Only thing they loose is daily pay and of course drink commissions and barfine. In other words no need to pay the bar. She said only person who gets angry is the mamas an who recruited her because mamasan gets a cut of everything. From that point on I kept the girl by just giving her the money. I have taken on day trips. Not sure if it works nowadays.
Other freelancers will be only too happy if you keep them multiple days. For them guaranteed income and they hope your sex Drive goes down. Need to negotiate fee before.
I believe the bars have real strict rules now to prevent tardiness, no shows and especially "sneak outs". Sneak outs are where the girls on their off hours sneak off to see customers without the bars and mama sans getting their cut.
Most bars that I hear of have penalties starting at one minute being late and it increases exponentially. No shows might be penalized P500 for the day and every day there after. Most girls will find deductions to their weekly salary and commissions for infractions. Infractions can be as small as not wearing the right top or bottom for the day.
Most bars have a rule that the girl must work the day after a barfine even if it was a scheduled day off. This is to prevent sneak outs. Many girls have told me they couldn't barfine that day because they were going to see family or to a birthday party the next day which was their day off. They weren't lying because I barfine them when they came back.
Contrary to others belief, these girls don't have an easy life. Especially if they had to come up in the minor leagues.
Mr Enternational
04-25-18, 04:05
Long time ago when AC was different I have kept bargirls for a few days. These are usually childless and free. I just hand them over barfine and they go pay the bar. This came to end when one nice girl told me girls at the bar are free to come and go as they please.It was about 3 years ago when I met a chick about 1 am in High Society. I took her with me and also the next time I came I ran into her on Fields and let her come stay with me. The first time I met her she told me that she worked at Salambo (I had never heard of the place. I thought it was a restaurant or something.) She told me the same story about going to work when she wanted.
Next couple of years this chick was nowhere to be found. Her whatsapp had changed and then I noticed the bar named Salambo so every visit I started having a drink there to see if I saw her. Then on my trip at the end of January I was walking down Fields and there she was outside in the front of the bar. She said hey I know you. I said no you don't and kept walking.
Ironically I had lunch here today. Surprisingly the food was very good. I had sukiyaki, just as good as in the states. P490.
What is worst is the strain that is resistant to antibiotics which I understand is prevalent in SEA and the Philippines in particular. In that case it does not matter whether you require a prescription or not.Is there a strain out there that is resistant to ALL antibiotics? In other words: incurably? So far I have understood that some 'resistant' straints are only resistant to the commonly used antibiotics but are nevertheless still curable with other stronger antibiotics, even though it can take a long time.
It is the worst of any place that I have seen in the world.If it is the worst of any place you've seen homie, then there's a lot of places in the world you haven't seen.
Interesting, something to keep in mind when I visit A. C.
I'm only used to the beggars in Thailand and they are not so bad as they tend to sit there and just hold out the cup. I know some of those street hawkers can get annoying but I don't hang out where they congregate. I have not come across kids following me around and begging either.
I plan on staying in the Fields Avenue area and maybe walk over to the SM shopping center so hopefully I'll be able to ward off the beggars. I did read that it is actually technically illegal to give money to these beggars and street kids, so one risks getting in big trouble doing so.You will be fine when you walk over to SM. It's not like the place is crawling with beggars. About 80 or 90 percent of them are women with kids roaming around Fields all day long. You will see the same faces over and over again. They can be quite persistant and you might have to learn how to deal with them but the best way is not to give them any money. First of all because they are most likely forced by their husbands or other men to go out begging and second: when you give them money each time they come to you, they will start to remember you after a while and then it gets really hard to get rid of them.
The remaining 10 or 20 percent are elderly people, disabled people, tramps and kids (the latter not accompanied by an adult). Depending on my mood and the change I have in my wallet I give them some money sometimes. Or I buy them some food, in particular the kids.
Personally I find the vendors, who are much more omnipresent than the beggars, more annoying. I have learned that totally ignoring them doesn't work most of the time. What works for me is that I look at their merchandise (never look them in the eyes!), shake my head and walk on. I don't even say 'no' or 'no thank you' most of the time.
Usually they don't insist anymore then. However, you can meet the same guys multiple times a day and each time again they will try to get your attention. That can be tiring but I don't really blame them. They are only trying to make a living which is not that easy in the Phils.
Wicked Roger
04-25-18, 12:12
Is there a strain out there that is resistant to ALL antibiotics? In other words: incurably? So far I have understood that some 'resistant' straints are only resistant to the commonly used antibiotics but are nevertheless still curable with other stronger antibiotics, even though it can take a long time.This was chatted about earlier (the non resistant bit) but the UK guy has been treated successfully (see link) but the worry from the link I posted is that it can only get worse as 2 Aussies also seem to have had it also.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/gonorrhoea-antibiotic-resistant-cases-superbug-std-infection-spread-world-a8315006.html
Has anyone tried Sakura Nuru Massage near Eurasia Hotel? If so how was it like? Was happy ending part of the 1. 5 k quoted over the phone to me?
Thanks in advance for your replies.Happy ending was extra. There was a line up of 7 pretty girls. I selected one and went with we in a car to a nearby motel. There are no massage rooms at the Sakura site. The girl had a bag with a vinyl sheet to cover the bed. I got naked but she left her panties on. Put the nuru gel and did some body rubbing and tried to up sell. A HJ was 1500 more and BJ 2500. I do not recommend Sakura.
Is there a strain out there that is resistant to ALL antibiotics? In other words: incurably? So far I have understood that some 'resistant' straints are only resistant to the commonly used antibiotics but are nevertheless still curable with other stronger antibiotics, even though it can take a long time.My response is open to correction by any experts out there but from what I understand gonorrhea itself has developed resistance to nearly all of the antibiotics used for its treatment and there is one last recommended and effective class of antibiotics, cephalosporins, that is able to treat it. However, there is a strain in SEA of antibiotic-resistant super gonorrhea which is apparently incurable.
Chocha Monger
04-25-18, 22:50
My response is open to correction by any experts out there but from what I understand gonorrhea itself has developed resistance to nearly all of the antibiotics used for its treatment and there is one last recommended and effective class of antibiotics, cephalosporins, that is able to treat it. However, there is a strain in SEA of antibiotic-resistant super gonorrhea which is apparently incurable.Unless the pharmaceutical companies come up with some new antibiotics soon, the cure for multi-drug resistant gonorrhoea will be a radical amputation of the penis and testicles with removal of the seminal vesicles and prostate gland. It will be like an aggressive case of cancer in the penis, testicles and prostate occurring concurrently.
Less than a year ago there were only about four new antibiotics undergoing clinical trials for the treatment of the super gonorrhoea. Since only 1 in 5 drugs for treating infectious diseases that undergo human testing makes it through final approval for treating patients, the odds of a new effective antibiotic coming on the market in the near future are not good. The best strategy is to avoid the super gonorrhoea infecting one's cock in the first place.
Happy ending was extra. There was a line up of 7 pretty girls. I selected one and went with we in a car to a nearby motel. There are no massage rooms at the Sakura site. The girl had a bag with a vinyl sheet to cover the bed. I got naked but she left her panties on. Put the nuru gel and did some body rubbing and tried to up sell. A HJ was 1500 more and BJ 2500. I do not recommend Sakura.Nurumassage. Ph is 2000 for just the massage. They are nude. The girls are OK, and sometimes better than average. They pretty much all will give BBBJ and / or FS. FS might be and extra 3000 or so. So you are into it for 5000 p. So it is slightly more expensive than Sakura. But they girls come to your room with just a phone call.
It is not for the budget minded, but definitely an avenue to explore for the monger looking for the complete AC smorgasbourge. They have it in Manila too, and the prices are higher. But there are more girls to choose from.
It can be fun.
Eszpresszo
04-26-18, 03:12
Unless the pharmaceutical companies come up with some new antibiotics soon, the cure for multi-drug resistant gonorrhoea will be a radical amputation of the penis and testicles with removal of the seminal vesicles and prostate gland. It will be like an aggressive case of cancer in the penis, testicles and prostate occurring concurrently.Wherever did you come up with such nonsense? Untreated, Gonorrhoea will eventually go into remission. Not that you'd want to want that long.
Engine Driver
04-26-18, 04:19
Unless the pharmaceutical companies come up with some new antibiotics soon, the cure for multi-drug resistant gonorrhoea will be a radical amputation of the penis and testicles with removal of the seminal vesicles and prostate gland. It will be like an aggressive case of cancer in the penis, testicles and prostate occurring concurrently.
Mate, you've got to stop writing rubbish like this. There are probably better sites to test out your fiction writing.
https://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm
Below is an extract is from a US Department of Health publication. No where does it say that this "will be like an aggressive form of cancer" which will require your dick to be chopped off and your prostate to be removed.
"What happens if I don't get treated?
Untreated gonorrhea can cause serious and permanent health problems in both women and men.
In women, untreated gonorrhea can cause pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). Some of the complications of PID are.
- Formation of scar tissue that blocks fallopian tubes;.
- Ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the womb);.
- Infertility (inability to get pregnant);.
- Long-term pelvic / abdominal pain.
In men, gonorrhea can cause a painful condition in the tubes attached to the testicles. In rare cases, this may cause a man to be sterile, or prevent him from being able to father a child.
Rarely, untreated gonorrhea can also spread to your blood or joints. This condition can be life-threatening.
Untreated gonorrhea may also increase your chances of getting or giving HIV the virus that causes AIDS. ".
OlderMan4U
04-26-18, 04:43
You will be fine when you walk over to SM. It's not like the place is crawling with beggars. About 80 or 90 percent of them are women with kids roaming around Fields all day long. You will see the same faces over and over again. They can be quite persistant and you might have to learn how to deal with them but the best way is not to give them any money. First of all because they are most likely forced by their husbands or other men to go out begging and second: when you give them money each time they come to you, they will start to remember you after a while and then it gets really hard to get rid of them.
The remaining 10 or 20 percent are elderly people, disabled people, tramps and kids (the latter not accompanied by an adult). Depending on my mood and the change I have in my wallet I give them some money sometimes. Or I buy them some food, in particular the kids.
Personally I find the vendors, who are much more omnipresent than the beggars, more annoying. I have learned that totally ignoring them doesn't work most of the time. What works for me is that I look at their merchandise (never look them in the eyes!), shake my head and walk on. I don't even say 'no' or 'no thank you' most of the time.
Usually they don't insist anymore then. However, you can meet the same guys multiple times a day and each time again they will try to get your attention. That can be tiring but I don't really blame them. They are only trying to make a living which is not that easy in the Phils.Cool, I think I can handle walking by beggars and vendors by ignoring them or saying no thanks.
That is one of my concerns so far about going to A. C. The only other concern I have is what the girls are like. I've spent time in Thailand and have gotten turned off by the decrease in GFE and overall service from bargirls. I'm burned out and look for something new and fresh in the P. I.
Wherever did you come up with such nonsense? Untreated, Gonorrhoea will eventually go into remission. Not that you'd want to want that long.I thinking CM is writing from his / her personal experience from this.
Mate, you've got to stop writing rubbish like this. You took the words right out of my mouth. But I'm afraid he's incurable. Only a radical amputation as a board member would solve this cancer.
Soapy Smith
04-26-18, 14:40
I thinking (snip) her personal experience.Thanks for this suggestion. This could explain a lot. Several years ago Cunning Stunt suggested that CM was a frustrated keyboard warrior stuck in the basement of his grandmother's home. I had suggested that the home was in Detroit. A WAG. Your suggestion now seems almost more credible than any of these earlier ideas. This could be very embarrassing for many of her supporters if it proved to be correct.
Thanks for this suggestion. This could explain a lot. Several years ago Cunning Stunt suggested that CM was a frustrated keyboard warrior stuck in the basement of his grandmother's home. I had suggested that the home was in Detroit. A WAG. Your suggestion now seems almost more credible than any of these earlier ideas. This could be very embarrassing for many of her supporters if it proved to be correct.I knew a brilliant person that was a "woman" stuck in a man's body that was frustrated as hell because it couldn't get a man. Especially jealous of men getting pussy and the pussies getting a man and would make up all kinds of crap. In essence a real verbal and literal cock and pussy blocker.
Virtally a Confused Male Confronting Maleness.
Mate, you've got to stop writing rubbish like this. There are probably better sites to test out your fiction writing. .........I know his first paragraph would scare the bejesus out of most mongers but that is no reason not to appreciate the humor of it. The fact is that a monger with super gonorrhea will have to refrain from his favorite hobby for a significant period of time if not indefinitely. I see no one took umbrage with his second paragraph.
Mate, you've got to stop writing rubbish like this. There are probably better sites to test out your fiction writing.
https://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm
Below is an extract is from a US Department of Health publication. No where does it say that this "will be like an aggressive form of cancer" which will require your dick to be chopped off and your prostate to be removed.ED, tank you for doing an excellent job of exposing Chocha Monger's misinformation about gonorrhoea being akin to cancer.
Regards,
Pradoe.
Member #4566
04-27-18, 01:03
The LGBT community did not invent the idea of a continuum. It came from the research of Alfred Kinsey and associates in the late 1940's. . . .Kinsey himself was apparently bisexual. Seems like you are contradicting yourself. After Kinsey, the LGBTers could say that they are not categorically different from heteros but that their difference was merely a matter of degree. But that so-called continuum is a construct, a heuristic which is impossible to prove or disprove and therefore unscientific.
Actually I think YOUR statement is bullshit. What about bisexual people for example? Let's say they equally like men and women, so they are 50% homosexual and 50% heterosexual.
According to your statement however they are not homosexual and at the same time not heterosexual. That makes no sense.If you take up the ass from a gent, return the favor to another gent, if you love a man sexually (even though you may also love women) you are LGBT. Either you are or you aren't; no 50%. A woman 9 months pregnant is no more pregnant than one pregnant for only a week. It's the same with being LGBT.
1. The walk on has shown up a couple times and had some incredible sex with her. Of course not like the Hollywood sex scenes, but never the less satisfying to me. And her. I think I am turning her into a sex addict. She has been coming over for trike money only. I did advance her some money because she had a family problem. Seems like someone in her family got into a dispute with someone in the hood and the Barangay Captain made the judgement that her Father had to pay a 5 k fine. Who gets the money or how much no one knows because you pay the elected BC direct. I asked what would happen if he didn't pay? The walk on started crying and utter out that the BC would put him in jail! This 5 k fine is what we foreingers call a resolution fee or get out of jail fee. Of course this family has never faced such a thing nor have the nerve to negotiate it down and call the BC bluff. Welcome to the Philippines.
I advanced her 3 k and her Korean bar owner advanced the rest to her. I guess not all Korean owners are so bad. Anyway I must say with the BC issue out of the way, walk on's sexual appetite grew. I remember in business sometimes I would have to prop up a vendor to deliver the best goods and service at a reasonable value.
2. The recent what ever you want to call it discussions about STD caused me to visit a local AC doctor. It gave me a brilliant idea to stock up on the meds for G and see which most of the time goes hand in hand together. He gave me a prescription for it.
Almost out the door I decided to ask him about the super bug. He has not heard of any cases of it in AC or Manila or in the Philippines. Just the usual same old bug. Please do not use this info to lower your caution or precautions. I was too “shy” to ask him if the super bug left untreated if your penis and balls would fall off and cancer would spread throughout your body.
3. Around 8:30 pm I went to Southstar Drugs to fill my prescription. From checkpoint to Southstar they were more massage girls out than beggars, kids, broom salesman and ED salesmen. I filled my script and decided to take the jeepney back to the hotel. No problems on the jeepney. I always have my hands on my front pockets and back pockets buttoned up. My cell phone in my right front pocket was still there as I got up to get off. By the time I walked 20 feet I realized my cell phone was gone! Someone lifted it while I was getting out. More annoying with the lost of bg cell numbers than the cost. Spent a few hours messengering bg's for their phone numbers again.
So be aware of pickpockets. I must say they are pretty good.
Chocha Monger
04-27-18, 03:16
There is scientific proof that gonorrhea significantly increases the risk of prostate cancer.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10096-016-2866-7
Gonorrhea also doubles the risk of getting bladder cancer in men, and the link is strong for invasive and advanced bladder cancer, which is more difficult to treat.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gonorrhea-cancer/gonorrhea-linked-to-risk-of-male-bladder-cancer-idUSTON01414020070110
If you take up the ass from a gent, return the favor to another gent, if you love a man sexually (even though you may also love women) you are LGBT. Either you are or you aren't; no 50%. A woman 9 months pregnant is no more pregnant than one pregnant for only a week. It's the same with being LGBT.I guess it's a matter of perspective. I think there's a difference between a man who likes to take it up the ass from a gent and a man who only likes to DFK for example and will never take it up the ass.
You can say they are both 100% homosexual but I think the continuum perfectly shows the difference between them. Because the continuum shows their preferences. The man who only likes to DFK with men will probably have a preference for women (let's say 80% for example) and will occasionally like men (the other 20%). And it can be the other way around for a man who likes to take it up the ass.
Chocha Monger
04-27-18, 18:15
Seems like you are contradicting yourself. After Kinsey, the LGBTers could say that they are not categorically different from heteros but that their difference was merely a matter of degree. But that so-called continuum is a construct, a heuristic which is impossible to prove or disprove and therefore unscientific.
If you take up the ass from a gent, return the favor to another gent, if you love a man sexually (even though you may also love women) you are LGBT. Either you are or you aren't; no 50%. A woman 9 months pregnant is no more pregnant than one pregnant for only a week. It's the same with being LGBT.Correct Pompetus! There are no shades of gay. There is only gay or not gay. Gays would like to convince heterosexuals otherwise but it is just part of their recruiting tricks, as they believe they can turn straight people by blurring the lines and muddying in the waters. The aim is convince all heterosexuals that they are a little gay and should be open to experimentation, allowing the gays to target people who clearly are not part of the LBGT community. It is all baseball whether they are pitching, catching, hitting or fielding. If they are having sexual contact with people of the same sex, they are gay. Those who claim otherwise are gays in denial or attempting to recruit heterosexuals.
UsaInEurope
04-28-18, 03:55
Contacted R's vampiress girl -- bleeding.
Go to Lollipops and sit down next to a skinny girl in a skin-tight dress with no bra on. She proceeds to basically take that off and keep showing her pussy and asshole to me. Without me buying her any lady's drink! Insane. Then she says she's going to kiss me before she leaves, sticks her tongue down my throat, nipples poking holes in her dress, and. Bloody! So she goes home. Name I can't remember -- super young, darker complexion, small tat on her right neck, super cute. Are-vowel-l-something. Like rayleen but not that.
Then try Pinky (just my type -- curvy, black as jet black night hair, innocent look) but she doesn't like anything (no licking her, doesn't like sucking, etc. -- you have to interview these girls before barfining) so send her back. Great nipples on her though -- almost black and very large / thick.
Then have a girl sit down who is also my type but she doesn't drink and also doesn't like to do anything. But get some good cuddles and boob play -- huge natural boobs. The amount of fun you can have just sitting in the booth is incredible. The waitress would come over and grab me, other girls booty rub on me.
Then get a great connection with Jonalyn. Dirty, boobs out in the bar, loves oral. Ask about barfining her aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. Wait for it. Bleeding.
Anyway -- barfine there is 3000, not 3500 like someone else reported. Make sure to single drink order for lady drinks -- not the 300 scam.
So now it's 1:30 a and the bar is empty. Stumble down to Rhapsody and they don't barfine (wtf).
Then go the other way to (I think) Q and. 4 ugly dancers and no guys. Now it's too late.
Another bar -- no barfine (ask if the bar barfines before walking in if you want to take a girl back -- waste of time to sit and drink with a girl who won't ever do anything).
Then finally hit on one still going strong. Sit down and this really hot big booby girl with her ass and boobs hanging out sits on my lap. We make out a bit, buy her a drink, go to barfine her aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. Says she's bleeding. I say she's a fucking liar and she takes her panties off and shows me her rag. Um. Thanks, lady.
What the hell is this period en masse?
Rubio Tonto
04-28-18, 10:05
Contacted R's vampiress girl -- bleeding.
So now it's 1:30 a and the bar is empty. Stumble down to Rhapsody and they don't barfine (wtf).
Another bar -- no barfine (ask if the bar barfines before walking in if you want to take a girl back -- waste of time to sit and drink with a girl who won't ever do anything).
Any bar employee that isn't incredibly stupid will give you the same answer to that question if they don't know you. I'm assuming you're a foreigner. Plenty of foreigners used as setups by law enforcement in Angeles as an excuse to raid the bar and arrest all of the dancers, waiters, and other employees.
Mr Enternational
04-28-18, 11:43
Any bar employee that isn't incredibly stupid will give you the same answer to that question if they don't know you. I'm assuming you're a foreigner. Plenty of foreigners used as setups by law enforcement in Angeles as an excuse to raid the bar and arrest all of the dancers, waiters, and other employees.No need to be a foreigner. One of my wingmen is Filipino and the same thing happens to him for the same reason.
Soapy Smith
04-28-18, 17:41
Seems like you are contradicting yourself. After Kinsey, the LGBTers could say that they are not categorically different from heteros but that their difference was merely a matter of degree. But that so-called continuum is a construct, a heuristic which is impossible to prove or disprove and therefore unscientific.Every bar tender is happy to share his opinion about matters such as this, but do you really want ideas passed along from people whom he has been plying with alcohol and shared with others who are also imbibing? Of course the notion of a continuum is a construct, as is the term bisexual. But these particular constructs are based in evidence. "Science" of this type has a foundation in questions such as "how many men have you had sex with in the past year"? And, "how many women have you had sex with in the past year"? In order to get reliable answers to such questions Kinsey's people would have had to have good procedures for assuring their research participants about the confidentiality of their answers.
Kinsey was engaged in science, although he probably created some inaccuracy as to the numbers of purely heterosexual, purely homosexual, and bisexual individuals in the general population. Sampling errors such as those he created affect the reliability of the results, but not the validity. That is, the existence of people who desire both men and women is not in question; what is in question is merely the numbers of such people in the general population. Nonetheless, Kinsey's "science" was good enough that the institute he created is still in existence to the present day, hosted by a large, reputable midwest University. A large research university in Bloomington, Indiana will not be able to thrive if the rest of the scientific world regards their work as invalid and unreliable.
https://kinseyinstitute.org/
If you want to replace the constructs "continuum" and "bisexual" with other more descriptive terms, please take it up with the folks that write dictionaries. In the meantime, there is no contradiction here. Your argument is akin to Bill Clinton's "what is the meaning of 'is'."
Soapy Smith
04-28-18, 18:32
Various observers have suggested that denial of the existence of bisexual behavior is a major contributor to the spread of HIV. Especially, the increase in numbers of women who contract HIV and births of children with HIV are related largely to the women having sex with men who are also having sex with other men. When these women then have sex with other men, the transmission mechanism goes full circle. If you care enough to get informed about this dynamic, check out Elizabeth Pisani's **The Wisdom of Whor. ** or look for her Ted talk.
https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-*****s-Bureaucrats-Brothels-Business/product-reviews/0393337650/ref=rdr_ext_cr_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
If a word forbidden in ISG blocks this url, just do a search for Elizabeth Pisani.
From field research primarily in Indonesia, Pisani found that there is a large community of male prostitutes who also occasionally have sex with local women, some of whom are also heterosexual prostitutes. Thus when conventional wisdom attributes HIV transmission solely to gay sex and contaminated needles we miss a very large mechanism by which the disease spreads. Pisani discovered this, not by the science of counting and extrapolating from numbers of cases, but by burrowing--in the way anthropologists do--into the underlife of the sex trade in Jakarta.
I have been told by African-American community leaders that a similar dynamic exists in African American communities in the states. They suggest that the rigidity of sex role definitions, especially around masculinity, preclude community members from being able to discuss openly the existence of bisexual behavior that transmits HIV from gay men to women who are unaware their male partners are also having sex with other men. It is difficult to intervene in a dynamic whose existence the community denies.
If we can acknowledge that the Pinays we are having sex with are probably also having sex with Filipino boyfriends, shouldn't we also consider that some of those boyfriends may be having sex with other men? Denying the existence of bisexuality, perhaps to protect our own fearful needs to reassure ourselves about our own masculinity, is potentially short-sighted and deadly.
Soapy Smith
04-28-18, 19:51
If you take up the ass from a gent, return the favor to another gent, if you love a man sexually (even though you may also love women) you are LGBT. Either you are or you aren't; no 50%. A woman 9 months pregnant is no more pregnant than one pregnant for only a week. It's the same with being LGBT.On rereading your post I conclude that your concern is with the labeling. You believe that anybody who partakes of same-sex behavior, even if it is only 10% of their partners, is inherently homosexual. So to you the important distinction is between pure heterosexuals and everyone else. Fine: label them anyway you want. The real issue is behavior. As my previous post on bisexual denial suggests, the difference between men who have sex only with other men and those who have sex with both men and women has deadly implications. The distinction you want to draw, which is shared by many in the African-American community, is resulting in the deaths of a lot of African Americans.
Why arent the flights from the middle east or Korea the same price as to Manila? Seems like the power players in AC should work on this. Mongers would come to AC directly and stay longer if the flights were the same price.
To save 100 usd or more, people are flying into manila and taking the bus up. I wonder what the 'break even' price point is: take the bus from Manila to save 100 usd? 150 usd?
Granted, visiting both AC and Manila is nice during a vacation, but for the monger that is looking for a relaxing vacation, flying into AC and getting a room and staying in that room the whole vacation is very relaxing. Having to unpack, repack, get to the bus, take the bus, deal with the stress of a taxi, check into another hotel, etc etc sucks. But to save 200 usd, most will do it.
Plus, if you stay in AC long enough, and you can break into the local community. The expats will start to know you, girls will know you, you will have a well stocked phone with numbers to help fill in the low periods. Try doing that in Makati. There is little community to break into.
Most Middle Eastern men go to Makati, and not AC. But make the flights from Dubai and Bahrain etc just as affordable, and they will start coming to AC.
The power players in AC need to find ways to get mongers to AC to fill those High $ towers they are building everywhere.
Just a thought.
Mr Enternational
04-29-18, 20:02
Why arent the flights from the middle east or Korea the same price as to Manila? Why do I keep getting sucked into this? It is called supply and demand. With a lower supply of seats, the prices are going to be higher.
Plus, if you stay in AC long enough, and you can break into the local community. The expats will start to know you, girls will know you, you will have a well stocked phone with numbers to help fill in the low periods. Try doing that in Makati. There is little community to break into.Ain't no community. You go into a bar and meet a chick. You meet a chick walking down the street. You meet a chick at her job. You get online and meet a chick. You have a chick introduce her friends to you. Simple. This has been covered 1 million times in the PI thread. Ain't no secret squirrel community.
The power players in AC need to find ways to get mongers to AC to fill those High $ towers they are building everywhere.Who are these power players you speak of? A bar owner? A hotel owner? You act like Filipinos want prostitution in their town. And judging from reports, half the mongers that go to AC end up not liking the place anyway. They have towers going up everywhere because they have call centers and factories opening everywhere, NOT HOOKER BARS.
Why do I keep getting sucked into this? It is called supply and demand. With a lower supply of seats, the prices are going to be higher.
Ain't no community. You go into a bar and meet a chick. You meet a chick walking down the street. You meet a chick at her job. You get online and meet a chick. You have a chick introduce her friends to you. Simple. This has been covered 1 million times in the PI thread. Ain't no secret squirrel community.
Who are these power players you speak of? A bar owner? A hotel owner? You act like Filipinos want prostitution in their town. And judging from reports, half the mongers that go to AC end up not liking the place anyway. They have towers going up everywhere because they have call centers and factories opening everywhere, NOT HOOKER BARS.Dude,
Las Vegas, for example, has a council of big business owners that get together and develop ideas to get more people to come to Vegas. In AC, the Dollhouse Group owners, ABC owners etc etc could talk to the airlines and see what could be done to get flight prices lower.
Also, there IS a community in AC. There are regulars that you see in HiSo, or the coffee shops etc. They have a lot of contacts with girls, friends etc. In AC. Do you know Sandy? He is a local celebrity that takes pictures at the pool parties every weekend. He is part of the AC Community.
Mr Enternational
04-30-18, 03:41
Las Vegas, for example, has a council of big business owners that get together and develop ideas to get more people to come to Vegas. In AC, the Dollhouse Group owners, ABC owners etc etc could talk to the airlines and see what could be done to get flight prices lower.AC is not LV! You may see Dre's nightclub or Bellagio Hotel in Vegas with an add in the magazine on the plane. You think that ABC or Dollhouse is going to spend money taking out ads that cost that much? (Do people even still read magazines? Everything is online now.) And what will the ads say? Come to AC. We have hookers in our bar. Again, who the fuck wants to go to AC besides a handful of mongers?
Maybe you forgot that businesses exist for the purpose of making money for the owners. I own a business and you own a business that have nothing to do with each other. I am going to come to you and tell you to lower your prices so that I can make more money. Makes sense to me.
You need to go somewhere that has P4P quickly so that you will be involved and quit coming up with off the wall ideas in your downtime. You are doing too much. It ain't that serious. In fact, it is very simple. Take your money. Get a chick. Sit your happy ass down. Anyone can do it. No elaborate plans, schemes, networks, or communities necessary.
OlderMan4U
04-30-18, 04:13
In doing research on Angeles City, one of the things that struck me was the concept of the barfine in A. See. As opposed to Thailand.
I have spent most of my holidays the past years in Thailand. In Thailand as some of you may know, a barfine is a fee you pay to the establishment simply to release her from the premises, and that there is a separate fee you pay to the lady for her services (short or long time). In Angeles City the barfine is supposed to cover the entire fee for the lady both to release from the bar and also her services.
When I first read of this I thought it was pretty convenient that one price covers all. But then I also read that some girls will only stay with you after one pop while others may stay with you long time. I suppose it is easy enough to negotiate this with the girl beforehand but isn't there even less incentive for a girl to want to necessarily stay with you long time if you already prepay the entire fee upfront? At least in Thailand you can pay her separately depending on how long she stays unless you are one of those suckers that prepay everything up front.
So for you A. C. Veterans, what have been your experiences in this regard? Has it always been a situation where you could never assume she wanted to stay with you long time? Do you always ask beforehand, and has she been true to her word if she agrees to staying long time? I realize it depends on the girl but just curious as I have never been to A. C.
STDs, AC business ideas, sexuality, come on guys. OK, AC is like shooting fish in a barrel, I get it. Book a hotel and walk around, pussy will find you. The reports / advice should be better, not fewer.
Day-time girls, morning girls. If you don't like overnighters, where does one find early morning poon? Do you have to go out? Do you have to rely on phone numbers from bar girls, HiSo girls?
Where to pick up girls that aren't in clubs / bars? The mall? Any stories of picking up non-pros working retail?
Feel free to PM me.
Why arent the flights from the middle east or Korea the same price as to Manila? Seems like the power players in AC should work on this. Mongers would come to AC directly and stay longer if the flights were the same price.I've never noticed much of a price difference between Manila and Clark. The only problem is there are much less flights to Clark than to Manila. But that is (like Mr E already said) simply a matter of supply and demand. Apparently, and hardly surprising, there's much less demand for flights to Clark. And there would be even less demand if AC was not a monger destination.
Las Vegas, for example, has a council of big business owners that get together and develop ideas to get more people to come to Vegas. In AC, the Dollhouse Group owners, ABC owners etc etc could talk to the airlines and see what could be done to get flight prices lower.
The money laundering business of the bars in AC hardly depends on the number of customers.
Engine Driver
04-30-18, 09:31
I've never noticed much of a price difference between Manila and Clark. The only problem is there are much less flights to Clark than to Manila. But that is (like Mr E already said) simply a matter of supply and demand. Apparently, and hardly surprising, there's much less demand for flights to Clark. And there would be even less demand if AC was not a monger destination.The airlines are hardly going to promote AC as a destination when prostitution is illegal. Imagine going to your Board with an investment paper based on an activity which is immoral and illegal.
People need to understand that in a shady part of the world like Walking Street, AC, all is not what it seems. The bars and million dollar towers don't have to make money as there is a secondary (or some would say primary) game going on.
WorldWanderer
04-30-18, 12:01
Dear all,
Reading at the RTFF, it appears that bar is the way to go but bar fine is for LT or ST? Is it possible to do few ST before calling out the day for LT? If yes what venues you recommend for ST vs LT?
Cheers,
Ww.
Eszpresszo
04-30-18, 12:48
I've never noticed much of a price difference between Manila and Clark. The only problem is there are much less flights to Clark than to Manila. But that is (like Mr E already said) simply a matter of supply and demand. Apparently, and hardly surprising, there's much less demand for flights to Clark. And there would be even less demand if AC was not a monger destination.I think you might be underestimating the purpose of that airport. Coming from the Central US, its a big difference, just like going to Bali. You pay a significant premium to get there with only changing planes once. I've priced it on the two Gulf airlines that have a direct connection to CRK and MNL.
Monger traffic is not what's limiting the amount of passengers. The data I've read on CRK is that the traffic restricted by the small capacity of terminals. That's why you have much less traffic than MNL. Remember, this was originally a former USAF base, not a purpose built airport. The passenger facilities were a retrofit. However, CRK is expanding and should be handling twice the capacity by 2020, to handle the overflow of international arrivals from MNL, which is about at capacity. I can only imagine who many OFWs will be flying in and out to the Mideast from here. The longest line of passengers I saw when changing planes to DOH last month, was for the PAL flight to MNL. It looked like the pussy express!
WazWallaby
04-30-18, 13:06
Yes, you are absolutely right. Numbers are shocking, but that is sad reality. For some mongers it may be a blow to their ego to realize, that an average twenty something working girl is in fact nothing more than an overused hole, banged by 1000 dicks.
Specificities of anatomy of Asian women allow many Pinays to remain tight for years or even decades, which can give an impression, that a girl is just lightly used.
I think, that your calculations are very reasonable, and a simple mathematics in such case is the most credible evidence.
I am Russian. I don't want to reveal personal details about myself, but everything I write on here is based on my experience.Had a 50 year old pinay lover here in sydney for a year or so (I am heading north of 60! Told me she had worked on the game for 8 years in Manila and 'fucked hundreds of white guys' then got married to an Aussie, had a kid, split up and was trawling for guys on DIA which is how I met her. Said she had 'dated' 50 guys in Sydney from DIA. So, she must have been fucked thousands of times right? She was a beautiful fuck, no kidding, tight and smooth and as clever as in bed. A real find. Had me drooling for her tight velvet pussy and Grade A BBJ for a whole year, the minx! I'd sometimes do her 3 times on an overnighter, so I probably clocked up a couple of hundred fucks myself. But, when you are on the job, you are focused on the moment, right? Not counting up the might-have-been. Cost me thousands, but I was smiling a lot! Eventually, we drifted apart.
Member #4566
04-30-18, 17:33
In the meantime, there is no contradiction here. Here is the contradiction that you are not grasping. In a previous post you state.
The LGBT community did not invent the idea of a continuum. It came from the research of Alfred Kinsey and associates in the late 1940's. Recall that the "be" in LGBT stands for bisexual. Then later in the same post you state:
Kinsey himself was apparently bisexual. Do you still not see your contradiction? Forgive me, I want to be neither flippant nor condescending. The issues that I am raising regarding the LGBTers merging heterosexual with homosexual, although not terribly intricate, require more nimble minded processing than a FR on BG's on Fields Ave. Refocus and look at the matter again.
Soapy Smith
04-30-18, 18:34
Do you still not see your contradiction? Forgive me, I want to be neither flippant nor condescending. The issues that I am raising regarding the LGBTers merging heterosexual with homosexual, although not terribly intricate, require more nimble minded processing than a FR on BG's on Fields Ave. Refocus and look at the matter again.I can only assume that the issue for you is about labeling. I presume that you consider that any man who has sex with another man, regardless how frequently he also has sex with women, is homosexual. So you don't like having "LGBTers" create categories in between heterosexual and homosexual. Although, by referring to this group as LGBTers (whoever they are) you are actually reinforcing the labels. I suspect few of them refer to themselves as LGBT; it is a construct that is totally exterior to them. They refer to themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered (or transsexual). You are of course free to draw whatever distinctions you want in setting up labels that work for you.
For me the important distinction is behavior, not labels. When a man has sex exclusively with other men, most of them know their levels of risk with regard to HIV and other STIs. But when a man engages in sex with other men, and then with women, without telling the women, there are potentially lethal implications for spreading HIV to unsuspecting women, and by extension, other men the women have sex with. Labels don't kill, but behavior does. Perhaps there is a good reason that people who work in HIV prevention have adopted the term, men who have sex with men (MSM).
Regarding contradictions, it seems odd that you claim to not want to be flippant or condescending, and then allude to my lack of mental nimbleness. If you recheck my posts in this discussion, you will see that I stuck to issues and have not insulted you personally nor alluded to your capabilities. For the record I have never been to Fields Avenue. I suspect that few forum members have gotten much use from our conversation, and in hindsight wish I had not gotten into it. I will have nothing more to say about it.
So for you A. C. Veterans, what have been your experiences in this regard? Has it always been a situation where you could never assume she wanted to stay with you long time? Do you always ask beforehand, and has she been true to her word if she agrees to staying long time? I realize it depends on the girl but just curious as I have never been to A. C.First visited Angeles in '92 and the barfine system threw me for a loop because I only knew Thailand's and Manila's. BF was p500 (FX rate 25:1), which was much higher than Bangkok's then, iirc about b200 - b300, but of course AC's was all inclusive. Back then girls stayed overnight (not as a rule that I know of), but back then there were far fewer punters, mobiles were practically non-existent for the girls, no internet, not many oversea's sponsors to groom, etc. Today's girls have many more revenue streams to work. I've long been an advocate of the pre-match pep talk because assuming things increases the likelihood of unhapenis. Mind you, days long ago some would still over promise and under deliver such as mentioning hungry babies, ill mums, etc to get out of the room. But it was more difficult to pull off the plausible excuse. Couldn't get the emergency call to "come home quick" at 3 am when one didn't have a mobile.
If the wakey wakey pop is important to you, tell the girl your tip will be given when the sun is shining.
Dear all,
Reading at the RTFF, it appears that bar is the way to go but bar fine is for LT or ST? Is it possible to do few ST before calling out the day for LT? If yes what venues you recommend for ST vs LT?
Cheers,
Ww.ST is easy. Walk into any bar or Disco and ask the girl. Ideally barfine should include LT but nowadays most girls stay only ST irrespective of promises made. However there are exceptions. Girl might like you or think you are a long term walking ATM or you promise to take her shopping or buy her a new phone etc. In such cases she might stay LT.
Member #4698
04-30-18, 20:53
ST is easy. Walk into any bar or Disco and ask the girl. Ideally barfine should include LT but nowadays most girls stay only ST irrespective of promises made. However there are exceptions. Girl might like you or think you are a long term walking ATM or you promise to take her shopping or buy her a new phone etc. In such cases she might stay LT.It is funny how things have changed in AC in only the last 3 or 4 years. Pretty soon it will be like Pattaya with prespecified ST & LT. I remember how sometimes I would devise ways to end an EWR so as to avoid telling a girl straight out I had had enough of her. Some girls cried and just would not want to leave on their own accord! Of course there were other girls whom I did not want to leave. Ha Ha. Ah, I fondly remember the old AC.
The airlines are hardly going to promote AC as a destination when prostitution is illegal. Imagine going to your Board with an investment paper based on an activity which is immoral and illegal.
People need to understand that in a shady part of the world like Walking Street, AC, all is not what it seems. The bars and million dollar towers don't have to make money as there is a secondary (or some would say primary) game going on.Guys: cities, as they become expensive, try to go legit. AC is slowly going there. I see ads for Club Aqua on facebook that are 100% legit, high-roller, jet-setter. And when you go to ABC and Aqua, it is full of these people, and not mongers. It is often a group of rich middle eastern or European or Korean men that have a few 'GF's' that they probably met online and are staying with them. Do they go to the clubs and BF girls, maybe, but are definitely going after the high-end girls in the 'Korean-only' places on fields. They also bring their GF's from home.
AC also now has Big Dollar hotels / clubs like Penthouse, and restaurants like the new place next to Phillies. In a few years, AC will be advertised as a legit vacation spot for the world's high-rollers, and not just mongers. Yes mongering will continue, but it will be more expensive. AC needs a high-roller Casino close to Fields so they can advertise gambling.
It is the startup mongering destinations (in Cambodia for example) that are still for the budget monger. AC was like that in the 'Vietnam War' phase, and into the 90's.
Whoever said the big-dollar towers are going up because of the factories and call centers, you are dreaming!! Those workers are not affording those places. I dated one of those girls in AC, and she had a 20 minute trike ride to get to Fields Ave. The towers are going up for all the high-rollers from Korea, China, Australia, Dubai etc that AC needs to start attracting.
OlderMan4U
05-01-18, 02:08
First visited Angeles in '92 and the barfine system threw me for a loop because I only knew Thailand's and Manila's. BF was p500 (FX rate 25:1), which was much higher than Bangkok's then, iirc about b200 - b300, but of course AC's was all inclusive. Back then girls stayed overnight (not as a rule that I know of), but back then there were far fewer punters, mobiles were practically non-existent for the girls, no internet, not many oversea's sponsors to groom, etc. Today's girls have many more revenue streams to work. I've long been an advocate of the pre-match pep talk because assuming things increases the likelihood of unhapenis. Mind you, days long ago some would still over promise and under deliver such as mentioning hungry babies, ill mums, etc to get out of the room. But it was more difficult to pull off the plausible excuse. Couldn't get the emergency call to "come home quick" at 3 am when one didn't have a mobile.
If the wakey wakey pop is important to you, tell the girl your tip will be given when the sun is shining.It looks like I may have to do that if I want a girl to stay overnight. I suppose working girls all over the world eventually change for the worse by our standards, you can't take anything for granted. I've gotten burned out by the whole Thailand scene so was hoping for better in A. C. We shall see.
Nice Guy 99
05-01-18, 02:09
Had a 50 year old pinay lover here in sydney for a year or so (I am heading north of 60! Told me she had worked on the game for 8 years in Manila and 'fucked hundreds of white guys' then got married to an Aussie, had a kid, split up and was trawling for guys on DIA which is how I met her. Said she had 'dated' 50 guys in Sydney from DIA. So, she must have been fucked thousands of times right? She was a beautiful fuck, no kidding, tight and smooth and as clever as in bed. A real find. Had me drooling for her tight velvet pussy and Grade A BBJ for a whole year, the minx! I'd sometimes do her 3 times on an overnighter, so I probably clocked up a couple of hundred fucks myself. But, when you are on the job, you are focused on the moment, right? Not counting up the might-have-been. Cost me thousands, but I was smiling a lot! Eventually, we drifted apart.Totally agree WW. The older, more experienced can be a great find. There are two aspects to a relationship like this. Physical and mental. Physically I prefer girls who have fucked hundreds of men. They know their sexuality and they can rapidly tune in on yours. Mentally. You need to penetrate the shell. WGs often / always develop a shell to hold mongers at arms length. They want to avoid being emotionally hurt. Understandable. This is why I always treat WGs as people, not flesh. I am sincere in this and enjoy getting to know them and penetrating the shell. You need to establish a relationship of mutual trust, Once you sincerely earn their trust and can relate as two ordinary people a breakthrough occurs and the relationship is much more rewarding for both parties.
Member #4566
05-01-18, 03:21
. . . . it seems odd that you claim to not want to be flippant or condescending, and then allude to my lack of mental nimbleness.I extend my heartfelt apology.
Soapy Smith
05-01-18, 04:48
I extend my heartfelt apology.Thank you. Check your PM inbox.
I think you might be underestimating the purpose of that airport. Coming from the Central US, its a big difference, just like going to Bali. You pay a significant premium to get there with only changing planes once. I've priced it on the two Gulf airlines that have a direct connection to CRK and MNL.I suppose you mean Emirates and Qatar Airways? I'm based in Europe (Netherlands) and for me the price to CRK and MNL is the same with these airlines. (I don't use them because flying via Hong Kong or Taipei is faster for me, but that's another subject).
So I wonder what the reason could be for the price difference when you're coming from the US.
However, CRK is expanding and should be handling twice the capacity by 2020, to handle the overflow of international arrivals from MNL, which is about at capacity. Even with double capacity CRK will still be small compared to MNL. But I see your point.
WazWallaby
05-01-18, 11:42
Totally agree WW. The older, more experienced can be a great find. There are two aspects to a relationship like this. Physical and mental. Physically I prefer girls who have fucked hundreds of men. They know their sexuality and they can rapidly tune in on yours. Mentally. You need to penetrate the shell. WGs often / always develop a shell to hold mongers at arms length. They want to avoid being emotionally hurt. Understandable. This is why I always treat WGs as people, not flesh. I am sincere in this and enjoy getting to know them and penetrating the shell. You need to establish a relationship of mutual trust, Once you sincerely earn their trust and can relate as two ordinary people a breakthrough occurs and the relationship is much more rewarding for both parties.Very astute observations there. I think, suspect, that once out of Manila, once in a foreign country, let's call her Bree, Bree could open up and be a bit more vulnerable. She would know I was never going to be judgmental and she could talk about her earlier experiences. Or something like that. It was a good relationship and top sex. Dammit! I am starting to miss her. However, I know she had a new lover within a couple weeks of our final demise, so good luck to her, the beaut fuck that she was. Also a good point about an older, experienced lover tuning in to one's own proclivities. That is deffo true. Bree knew what turned me on real quick and she supplied it in spades. Finally, we are all people and deserve to be treated as such.
OlderMan4U
05-01-18, 15:50
Interesting discussion about Clark airport.
I thought the growth of Thailand has negatively affected the girl's attitudes and level of service, so any growth in Angeles can't be a good sign either. From what I've been reading so far, looks like same things happening in Angeles already.
Makes me wonder at what point it's no longer worth flying all the way to Southeast Asia to be with ladies. I wish Mexico was safer.
Naked Gunz
05-02-18, 05:03
Interesting discussion about Clark airport.I thought the growth of Thailand has negatively affected the girl's attitudes and level of service, so any growth in Angeles can't be a good sign either. From what I've been reading so far, looks like same things happening in Angeles already.Makes me wonder at what point it's no longer worth flying all the way to Southeast Asia to be with ladies. I wish Mexico was safer.Spot on. The only real solution I think is to retire there. Local expats always have the advantage.
Nice Guy 99
05-02-18, 05:13
Finally, we are all people and deserve to be treated as such.Amen, brother.
Eszpresszo
05-02-18, 11:56
Interesting discussion about Clark airport.
I thought the growth of Thailand has negatively affected the girl's attitudes and level of service, so any growth in Angeles can't be a good sign either. From what I've been reading so far, looks like same things happening in Angeles already.
Makes me wonder at what point it's no longer worth flying all the way to Southeast Asia to be with ladies. I wish Mexico was safer.Its my goal to visit SE Asian and LA once a year when its possible. Mexico interests me the least of anywhere in Latin America. Then again, I grew up within a three hour drive of Mexico. For me, its a place to fly over in route to the good stuff.
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Makes me wonder at what point it's no longer worth flying all the way to Southeast Asia to be with ladies. I wish Mexico was safer.I had some good luck in the DR. Not too far from most of the eastern USA as the airliner flies.
Engine Driver
05-03-18, 04:39
Interesting discussion about Clark airport.
I thought the growth of Thailand has negatively affected the girl's attitudes and level of service, so any growth in Angeles can't be a good sign either. From what I've been reading so far, looks like same things happening in Angeles already.
Makes me wonder at what point it's no longer worth flying all the way to Southeast Asia to be with ladies. I wish Mexico was safer.It's wrong to assume that the development of AC and Clark Airport is all due to the expansion of the sex industry. The sex business makes up a tiny portion of the industry in this area.
Angeles City and nearby Subic Port have attracted a lot of investment from legitimate businesses. Both local and multi-nationals. There are a lot of BPO, manufacturing, technology, processing and logistics businesses employing thousands of Filipinos. This in turn attracts foreign executives and managers from Japan, Korea, China, US etc to visit to set up and check on operations. The expansion of Clark Airport is mainly to service the legitimate businesses and to take overflow from Manila.
Mr Enternational
05-03-18, 05:05
It's wrong to assume that the development of AC and Clark Airport is all due to the expansion of the sex industry.It seems he was referring to the economic growth and not the growth of the sex industry. The economic growth of the region inversely affects the service level in the sex industry.
Engine Driver
05-03-18, 10:54
It seems he was referring to the economic growth and not the growth of the sex industry. The economic growth of the region inversely affects the service level in the sex industry.Yes that's true. Wages go up, unemployment is low and there's no need to go into prostitution. Bars struggle to find girls. The same thing is happening in BKK, where junior office ladies can earn THB 30,000 - 50,000 a month. That's more than what a coyote dancer makes.
Meanwhile, many mongers still keep thinking that they are single handedly supporting the entire economies of the Philippines and Thailand through their hobby.
Have you fellow mongers seen the Aqua St. Patricks Day photos on Facebook? They hired a midget leprakaughn, and some dancers. Looks like they had a good crowd some of the nights. I wonder how Aqua is doing financially.
When I was there a few months ago, there was a hot, young waitress. Has anyone ever tried for a 'red herring' by going for a 'normal', non-working girl type that is working a 'normal' job like a waitress at Aqua, or a hotel receptionist etc? I have never made an asshole out of myself for going for them without 'provocation' (IE they come on to me, flirt with me first etc etc). And most of they will not while on the job. You might be able to catch them walking home and then it might be a different story.
I have been tempted to make a move on a 'normal' girl. I would maybe ask her to go to dinner or drinks after she got off from work. You couldn't meet her at her work for fears she would be seen leaving with you. So you would have to try and meet her out front or at a restaurant etc. And then if you like her and vice versa, make a play for sex. It would be a challenge to work pesos into the equation gracefully. She might be motivated by big dollars, but how do you do it while allowing her to retain face. Boy all that would be fun. But doing it and striking out or making her feel uncomfortable would be a real bummer.
I know some of the hard core mongers on this site would just plain out ask her to bang, but that is not to work outside of HiSo, or a Bar. I guess I could just tip a girl big time money at her job and leave my phone number and tell her I want to take her out when she gets off work. That might send her the correct signal: you are willing to pay up for a quality 'normal' girl.
Hi.
Am traveling to Philippines and will be in AC for a day. Any inputs. Insights. Tips....Etc would be highly appreciated...Pls help
Hi.
Am traveling to Philippines and will be in AC for a day. Any inputs. Insights. Tips....Etc would be highly appreciated...Pls helpAt night time go high society disco at walking street best time is between 1 am-3 am plenty of freelancers here don't pay more than 1000 pesos for short time and 1500 long time. You can find girls on date in Asia or pinalove dating sites wechat app (watch out for ladyboys) also walking on streets between 600-1000 pesos for short time and 1500 pesos long time. If you go bars on perimeter or fields and buy drinks for ladies always ask single lady drink.
Thank you!! .
At night time go high society disco at walking street best time is between 1 am-3 am plenty of freelancers here don't pay more than 1000 pesos for short time and 1500 long time. You can find girls on date in asia or pinalove dating sites wechat app (watch out for ladyboys) also walking on streets between 600-1000 pesos for short time and 1500 pesos long time. If you go bars on perimeter or fields and buy drinks for ladies always ask single lady drink.
Hi.
Am traveling to Philippines and will be in AC for a day. Any inputs. Insights. Tips....Etc would be highly appreciated...Pls helpSafe bet is go to bars and take out a girl for your pleasure. Pay whatever the fine is depending on the bar. Other things written here is slightly riskier option. Hooking up on the street and disco is cheaper but comes with needing to know your game. Whichever way you go total satisfaction depends on you and the girl. Girls know the game very well. Do you?
I suggest read the forum especially field reports not stupid arguments about how many guys slept with the girls and do on.
I thought High Society only jumps Friday to Sunday? I also heard there is a new club giving it competition.
I thought High Society only jumps Friday to Sunday? I also heard there is a new club giving it competition.High Society is open every day. But I believe they have an entrance fee Friday to Sunday.
The new club might be the one opposite Phillies Sports Bar? Don't know the name.
I took the Genesis bus again from NAIA T-3, bay 14 at 3 pm on Monday. 2 hours and 15 minutes later we were at SM City Clark Mall! P350.
BTW, it looked like the 4:00 busses were lined up at 3:00. I got on the 3:00 at 2:52. Plenty of seats available.
Bus #712 looked brand new and was very clean. Also individual charging port at each seat. Bus was only about 25% or less filled. Same on my last trip. I hope as least they break even or am profitable. I would hate for this service to end.
There is nothing wrong with the advice you've received so far. Nevertheless, the thing that stands out in your post is that you have only "one day", and I assume that also means one night. It may be more helpful if you gave an arrival time, budget, hotel preferences, etc.
Daytime? Some bars open as early as 10 am. I personally use Pony Tails as a divider. They open in the afternoon, but still have the big show bar atmosphere.
Perimeter? As you head west from Pony T you are in the area called Perimeter (old US base perimeter fence). This is where you find a lot of daytime bars. Generally, you will find smaller bars with a delightful sleazy atmosphere. You might have to bar hop a bit to find a diamond in the rough.
The other road you will read about is Fields. Perimeter and Fields are different name for the same road. And Walking street is a subset of Fields. Are you still with me? Fields bars are usually bigger and showier and pricier. Some open late, and some open early. I'm not sure, but Voodoo used to be 24 hours. I don't like to find myself in a bar at breakfast time, but I once gave it a shot. There was a stunner dancing, but she wouldn't accept a date. Too bad.
Before I get carried away. I'll stop.
Hi.
Am traveling to Philippines and will be in AC for a day. Any inputs. Insights. Tips....Etc would be highly appreciated...Pls help
The other road you will read about is Fields. Perimeter and Fields are different name for the same road. And Walking street is a subset of Fields. Are you still with me? Fields bars are usually bigger and showier and pricier. Some open late, and some open early. I'm not sure, but Voodoo used to be 24 hours. I don't like to find myself in a bar at breakfast time, but I once gave it a shot. There was a stunner dancing, but she wouldn't accept a date. Too bad.
Before I get carried away. I'll stop.I lose patience fast with the small, 'lower quality' bars. You walk in, most all the girls are not your style, one might be and she will be a cherry girl or not interested in BF's. So I break down and go to the Mega Clubs so you can see 50 girls and ask Mamasan about them before you buy her a drink: 'does she BF, is she cherry girl, is she fun etc etc'.
If you are there for the sex and fun and don't have patience for bar hopping, stepping in and being told 'have a seat sir. ' endlessly, having to buy a drink to then find out the girl you like isn't BF-able, then just hit the mega bars. Then if you strike out there, get a massage girl, or go to HiSo or hit Tinder, and work those angles. It is rare you will strike out with all those avenues to pursue.
But in the Mega clubs, even if Mamasan endorses a girl, be sure to give a girl a good interview: do you like sex, are you horny etc etc. Try to sniff out if she wants sex, or is just after the money. Yes, they all want the money, but some do like sex. If you don't like a girl, mamasan will ask you why, and you can tell her. She will then recommend to you the really sexually charged girls that get barfined a lot and really like sex. They usually won't be the prettiest. It is hard to find one you like, who likes you and likes sex. That is why once you find a winner, you will be tempted to go get her on later nights. It is to be hard to do night after night and find a new winner to BF consistently.
Thank a TON!! Sammon, Pokeris X Man and VicVeg sharing your inputs.
XMan, that was very useful. As you asked, I will be reaching by next Sunday 3 pm at Manila and then to AC. Next day morning am going to Subic for a morning dive and will be back in AC by noon. Then next day noon, am checking out and flying to Coron.
Am planning to take one or two girls with me as I was told Coron and El Nido are dry and difficult to get quality girls.
But am bit concerned about traveling wit an unknown girl. Is that okey? Will they get tempted to run away with your cell phone?
Gentlemen, Any trust worthy. Horny girls, please share the intel.
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 05:12
Next day morning am going to Subic for a morning dive and will be back in AC by noon.Don't waste your money!
Then next day noon, am checking out and flying to Coron. Am planning to take one or two girls with me as I was told Coron and El Nido are dry and difficult to get quality girls.Get quality girls? There are NO girls in Coron man. If you are not diving then there is no other reason to go there. I got my wreck specialty there some years back. I took a girl from Manila with me. Only other thing to do there is go to the warms springs when the sun goes down. I think El Nido is an 8 hour boat ride from Coron. To hell with that noise.
Then next day noon, am checking out and flying to Coron.
Am planning to take one or two girls with me as I was told Coron and El Nido are dry and difficult to get quality girls.
But am bit concerned about traveling wit an unknown girl. Is that okey? Will they get tempted to run away with your cell phone?
Gentlemen, Any trust worthy. Horny girls, please share the intel.My earlier reports on taking a bar girl with me to Coron and Alona:
Hi guys,
Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week with a BG
OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for.In summary, I had great sex but everything else was a complete mind fuck. I wouldn't repeat but would put the time, effort and money to better uses else where.
Mr Enternational and Goferring. Thanks a ton. Those first hand info gave me great insight and helped me re-think. I guess I will try to find girls locally, in Coron and el nido. I did some search and found they have go go bars in elnido as well. Feel free to correct me if am wrong.
Mr Enternational and Goferring. Thanks a ton. Those first hand info gave me great insight and helped me re-think. I guess I will try to find girls locally, in Coron and el nido. I did some search and found they have go go bars in elnido as well. Feel free to correct me if am wrong.Where did you find they have go go bars at el nido? They don't have I think. Last time I was at el nido trike driver take me to one local bar with few ugly girls not worth to visit. Its better chance you will find some local freelancers girls at pukka bar or sava bar at el nido beach at night time but its defenitely will be not great choice el nido is very quiet place. You have more chance at palawan(puerto princesa) they have some bars with girls also tiki resto bar with some freelancers.
Mr Enternational
05-09-18, 16:22
I guess I will try to find girls locally, in Coron and el nido.No man. I would NOT be caught there without bringing my own girl. I have never had any problems with the chicks that I bring places. The chick that I took to Coron I met on DateInAsia. The first time I laid eyes on her was when she arrived at the gate in the airport when we were on our way.
She works at a call center. Before I met her she told me that I would have to give her money. We have taken several trips together and I just always give her 4000 pesos at the end. When she comes to see me when I am in Manila I always give her 2000 pesos. It seems she took it upon herself to take the relationship to a different level because now she tells me the places she would like us to go. But to me it is not that kind of party. I pay her to keep me company when I am going somewhere that I know won't have chicks for rent. I have also gone places with chicks that I did not have to give money to.
The rule of thumb is to look in the ISG section that deals with that place. If you don't see a bunch of reports of guys picking up chicks there, then you know you need to bring your own.
TomJones06
05-10-18, 05:58
I finally made it to the "new sin City" known as Angeles City. My flight touched down from Busan at 0100 and after a lengthy immigration line full of South Korean gentleman, I made it out to my driver who was waiting by wendeys. The trip to my hotel was uneventful and I arrived around 0200. As I made my way to my hotel which is directly across from baby dolls I seemed to be the center of attention. I will attribute that to the fact that it was late and I was fresh meat LOL. Made a quick change in the room and headed across to baby dolls. There was a solid 3 people in the club and without about 40 women. Needless to say, they screamed, clapped and made me feel like a rockstar. Unfortunately, there wasn't a whole lot of Lookers so I decided to have a beer and make my way to HiSo. Took the jaws of life and many promises of girl drinks, but I managed to PRT myself from my homely harem. Made it to HiSo without incident and paid my 200 entrance fee. The place was packed and there were quite a few Lookers. I wasn't even the only black guy! Past year during my trip to Bangkok the ladies were kind of cold and I felt that being black was preventing me from really having a good time. When I walked into that club I felt like a superstar. All eyes on me and I could tell that any girl I wanted was mine. Bought a round of drinks for some fellas and spotted a sexy little spinner with vitiligo dancing up against a couch. Took all of 30 seconds to decide she was the one. I had to fend off a few other girls and some well meaning gay guys, but that just made my ego bigger and her more interested. One of her competitors for my attention was a sexy little thing with blonde dreads, deep dimples and piercings that I hope to see again very soon. Anyhow, after about 45 min of drinking and dancing I asked her if she would like to leave with me. Made our way back to the hotel where we showered and got to work. This is where the mistakes and memories come into play. She started with a BBBJ that was pretty darn good. As she kissed her way up my chest she began grinding on me and in my less than sober state I slipped right on in here sans condom. Sucks because I have about 20 right in my bedside dresser. She said baby no condom? I thought to myself well it's a little late now, if you got something so do I. She just kept riding and said not inside. No problem! Went around the world with positions and I blew on her back. Went and washed up and then started going at it again! I felt 24 again! Finished the night with 3 rounds and a lot of sweat. The A/Cand lights cut out randomly for about 30 min, but I wasn't to be stopped! Finally passed out at idk what time. Woke up at 11 am showered and went at it again!! This is all sans Viagra or anything. I'm 30, and I haven't had this kind of stamina in years, I'm usually a one and done kind of guy, but she was just so damn sexy! (The giant wall length mirrors didn't hurt either since I covered this lovely 24 year old with my love 4 times and she let me do whatever I want I sent her home with 3 k for "taxi money. " Now I get to go get tested for diseases LOL but it was worth it. Update reports to follow.
Another hot night with old time favorite spinner. 23 yo now. Bye bye AC for now.
Mr Enternational
05-11-18, 14:50
I'm 30, and I haven't had this kind of stamina in years, I'm usually a one and done kind of guy, but she was just so damn sexy! (The giant wall length mirrors didn't hurt either since I covered this lovely 24 year old with my love 4 times and she let me do whatever I want I sent her home with 3 k for "taxi money. " Now I get to go get tested for diseases LOL but it was worth it. Update reports to follow.Where was the mistake? Sounds like a regular day in AC to me. 3 K is a lot of "taxi money" for a High Society chick though.
I was looking through an Airbnb listing for a condo at the Penthouse Hotel. The host says there's a Php250 charge for massage therapists, because they have their own. Is the Penthouse Hotel itself offering girls, under the title of massage therapists? Does that mean, unlike in Manila, or at least my experiences in Manila, that hotel massage therapists in AC is essentially the hotel barfining the girls? Is Penthouse barfining their girls?
Or. Is it actually possible that the host means. There's a Php 250 charge for outcall Legitimate, real massage therapists, in AC? I expect there are not that many legit massage therapists in AC, and wouldn't be surprised if most of them were working girls who offered decent massages, versus real massage therapists that offer decent happy endings and sometimes sex.
Please someone fill me in, thanks! Feel free to PM me.
When I mongered in Colombia, I've had hotels with fees for extra overnight guests, or guests after 10 PM. I'm totally against hotels benefiting double from our mongering. I'd like to avoid any hotels that want to add on to our total price without adding additional value.
I was looking through an Airbnb listing for a condo at the Penthouse Hotel. The host says there's a Php250 charge for massage therapists, because they have their own. Is the Penthouse Hotel itself offering girls, under the title of massage therapists? Does that mean, unlike in Manila, or at least my experiences in Manila, that hotel massage therapists in AC is essentially the hotel barfining the girls? Is Penthouse barfining their girls?
Or. Is it actually possible that the host means. There's a Php 250 charge for outcall Legitimate, real massage therapists, in AC? I expect there are not that many legit massage therapists in AC, and wouldn't be surprised if most of them were working girls who offered decent massages, versus real massage therapists that offer decent happy endings and sometimes sex.
Please someone fill me in, thanks! Feel free to PM me.
When I mongered in Colombia, I've had hotels with fees for extra overnight guests, or guests after 10 PM. I'm totally against hotels benefiting double from our mongering. I'd like to avoid any hotels that want to add on to our total price without adding additional value.Best to ask the host who quoted it for the exact answers. Anyone else's would be plain guessing.
Btw, profiting is the name of the game everywhere around the world, in commie countries too.
Where was the mistake? Sounds like a regular day in AC to me. 3 K is a lot of "taxi money" for a High Society chick though.He must have not seen the up to the minute daily rate posted on the wall to the left as he entered.
ST rate.
LT rate.
Trike rate.
Taxi money rate.
After 3rd finish rate.
Take the jeepney “B” rate.
Chocha Monger
05-12-18, 07:39
I finally made it to the "new sin City" known as Angeles City. My flight touched down from Busan at 0100 and after a lengthy immigration line full of South Korean gentleman, I made it out to my driver who was waiting by wendeys. The trip to my hotel was uneventful and I arrived around 0200. As I made my way to my hotel which is directly across from baby dolls I seemed to be the center of attention. I will attribute that to the fact that it was late and I was fresh meat LOL. Made a quick change in the room and headed across to baby dolls. There was a solid 3 people in the club and without about 40 women. Needless to say, they screamed, clapped and made me feel like a rockstar. Unfortunately, there wasn't a whole lot of Lookers so I decided to have a beer and make my way to HiSo. Took the jaws of life and many promises of girl drinks, but I managed to PRT myself from my homely harem. Made it to HiSo without incident and paid my 200 entrance fee..Great first trip to AC and report, Tom Jones. The girls at Hi-So must have been thrilled for the opportunity to experience a good smashing from some 30-year-old BBC, as it is a change from the usual FOBU patrons. The little spinner sure seemed to enjoy those four BBC poundings that you gave her, and did not even try to tap out like the Thai girls. Once she reports to her friends at Hi-So, they will be fighting to fall in line for four rounds with the BBC. You probably went from fresh meat to legend in one night.
Mr. E. said that 3 K taxi-fare was a large amount for a Hi-So girl because the taxi-fare for a LT ride from there is usually 1.5 K. On the other hand, seeing how you rode and glazed that little spinner's donut four times it was probably a fair price, because the FOBU fellows pay 1.5 K for a LT but only manage one, maybe two, shots with Viagra or cannot rise to the occasion and settle for a BBBJ. You should have no problem working off those daylong Viagra-induced boners in AC with the three remaining pills from LOS, as BBC boners do not intimidate the Pinays.
As for pulling out when you go in raw, it only works on the first round. If you go right back in the pussy, there are still live torpedoes in the tube that launch during the follow-up engagements. One of those fish in the water can home in on target, if the girl is within her window of opportunity for taking on cargo when you are dropping loads.
Where was the mistake? Sounds like a regular day in AC to me. 3 K is a lot of "taxi money" for a High Society chick though.I guess the mistake was he went bareback with her. That's why he says: "Now I get to go get tested for diseases LOL but it was worth it."
Feel free to PM me.We cannot PM you because you're a regular member. You'll have to buy a subscription first.
We cannot PM you because you're a regular member. You'll have to buy a subscription first.Wrong Mog.
He can be a regular member and still receive PMs.
I was looking through an Airbnb listing for a condo at the Penthouse Hotel. The host says there's a Php250 charge for massage therapists, because they have their own. Is the Penthouse Hotel itself offering girls, under the title of massage therapists? Does that mean, unlike in Manila, or at least my experiences in Manila, that hotel massage therapists in AC is essentially the hotel barfining the girls? Is Penthouse barfining their girls?
Or. Is it actually possible that the host means. There's a Php 250 charge for outcall Legitimate, real massage therapists, in AC? I expect there are not that many legit massage therapists in AC, and wouldn't be surprised if most of them were working girls who offered decent massages, versus real massage therapists that offer decent happy endings and sometimes sex.
Please someone fill me in, thanks! Feel free to PM me.
When I mongered in Colombia, I've had hotels with fees for extra overnight guests, or guests after 10 PM. I'm totally against hotels benefiting double from our mongering. I'd like to avoid any hotels that want to add on to our total price without adding additional value.I imagine PH hotel is offering legit massage girls to their guests for 250 p. They might offer extras, but I doubt it is FS. This is typical of high class hotels like PH.
But PH hotel will still let you in with a girl. It is too close to fields to not allow it. You might have to have her vetted by security, where they will take her ID and check she is 18, and get your room number so when she leaves they will call you and assure she can leave.
If you bring a massage girl off the street, just tell security she is a girl, not a massage girl. But they will know they are just body rub girls, offering extras, and allow it. I doubt PH hotel is keeping massage girls out so you use their massage girls. But you can email them and ask. Just ask if you can bring girls to the room without a fee. ALL other hotels in AC allow it.
TomJones06
05-12-18, 11:38
Where was the mistake? Sounds like a regular day in AC to me. 3 K is a lot of "taxi money" for a High Society chick though.The first mistake was going in raw. The second mistake was blowing 5 loads in less than 12 hours thus burning myself out with one chick. I know the 3 k was a lot, but she did perform her duties admirably and with great zeal. Didn't want to make her feel like a straight up working girl, sini said gave her money for a cab rather than for her letting me do butt stuff. LOL I love this place.
TomJones06
05-12-18, 11:40
I guess the mistake was he went bareback with her. That's why he says: "Now I get to go get tested for diseases LOL but it was worth it."You are correct good sir, shouldn't have went in raw. Still trying to find a clinic to get tested at. Figure I might as well wait to the end of my trip to do so. No use in finding out I'm clean today and catching something tomorrow.
TomJones06
05-12-18, 12:03
Day 2 was a doozy. Started the day at tequila reef for a breakfast that was amazing. Unfortunately, I didn't ask for bottled water. That decision would come to haunt me in the future. Googled a good massage place and body bliss had the best reviews. It's off of walking Street towards the mall, just take a left at the pharmacy and it's on your left. I wasn't paying attention when I was looking for it and I missed it. I ended up going to a place called are. See Massage. Cute little 30 something old massage therapist gave me quite the rub down and without me asking even proceeded to coax a 6th release in less than 12 hours out of my little hampster that could. Although her BBBJ skills were admirable I think her braces prevented here from fully opening her mouth as she went deep. Caused a bit of discomfort with the teeth. As I was leaving she gave me her number and told me she would come to my room next time if I wanted a longer massage. Left the parlor and sat at Kokomos for a few hours and shot the shit with some cool expats for about an hour before making my way to the mall. That walk, while less than 10 min, was torture. It was so damn hot! And I'm from Texas! Walked around the mall flirting with everything and had the best chicken ever at Max's restaurant. Highly recommend the place. Came back to the room and took a nap before the night time festivities. As I walking down the street towards the McDonald's end a black guy called me over in front of the bamboo bar. Turns out he is retired air Force and manages the place. I went in for a few beers and he introduced me to his newest tequilla girl milene. Milene is 18 yo and drop dead gorgeous. I asked if she was bar fineable and he said yes. Unfortunately, after 3 girl drinks for her she declined my invitation because she could see that I was "Too big". Oh well, there was another girl there names Marles who had caught my eye so I called her over. Marlene has a phat ass with kanji on each cheek that means rock star. She's 21, childless and very pretty. I decided to take her home with me. Before we left the owner of the ABC hotel came in and all the girls went crazy. This guy and his Entourage literally started making it rain 50's. I sat back and watching with feelings of envy and admiration. Luckily, my girl wasn't swayed by the fist full's of flying cash and grabbed my hand to leave. Got back to the room and took a shower together. Unfortunately, it was during the shower that she noticed a bit of red. Fuck! I was not about to settle for a 3 k blow job, so I said fuck it, we can put some towels down and your ass ain't bleeding. She agreed with a smile. All I can say about her performance is wow! She rocked my world and didn't even leave a speck of blood on the towels. I did however learn that anal sex can sometimes lead you into a shitty situation. Nothing a quick shower couldn't fix. Gave for 500 the next morning and went out in search of body bliss again. Found it this time and got the works. Body scrub, honey rub, facial, Thai massage, and foot massage / pedicure. Only cost 1200 for all. Really wish I was near some water because the rest of the day was boring and uneventful until I met Jim. Jim is a retired vet who spent 6 years in Brazil, 2 in the Dominican Republic, and has been in A. See for the past 3 years. Jim is who I want to be LOL 8 more years until retirement! I love the Philippines and I've already decided to live here once the government decided to pay me for giving them what I once considered my good years. I now see that once I hit 39, my good years will just be starting.
OlderMan4U
05-12-18, 23:55
Good reports so far TomJones06, keep them coming.
My thought is that going in raw isn't a mistake, it's something that we willingly engage in knowing the risks. Let's face it, while some of us are adamant about using condoms, and that's always a good thing, others of us do enjoy not using condoms. Is it always a mistake? I don't think so, unless you caught something deadly or possibly got the girl pregnant.
Good reports so far TomJones06, keep them coming.
My thought is that going in raw isn't a mistake, it's something that we willingly engage in knowing the risks. Let's face it, while some of us are adamant about using condoms, and that's always a good thing, others of us do enjoy not using condoms. Is it always a mistake? I don't think so, unless you caught something deadly or possibly got the girl pregnant.Raw is a mistake but worth rolling the dice? Have you ever gone to the safe sex clinic in USA? They want you to cut a rubber length-wise and spread it over the pussy before you lick the pussy. They are really strict about safe sex. And you are raw dogging an AC pro multiple times including butt play? Are you sick man? I have raw dogged vagina before but I get up right afterwards and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), and scrub my dick, and poor bactine down my [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) hole. And if I eat Pro pussy then I brush and gargle and scrub my lips with alcohol.
Mr Enternational
05-13-18, 06:26
Day 2 was a doozy. Started the day at tequila reef for a breakfast that was amazing. Unfortunately, I didn't ask for bottled water. That decision would come to haunt me in the future.You should not have a problem with the water in AC. I always order service water and never any problem. I think the only time I have had bottled water there was when buying big bottles at the grocery store.
Googled a good massage place and body bliss had the best reviews. It's off of walking Street towards the mall, just take a left at the pharmacy and it's on your left. I wasn't paying attention when I was looking for it and I missed it. I ended up going to a place called are. See Massage. ...the next morning and went out in search of body bliss again. Found it this time and got the works.You definitely didn't find Body Bliss. After the owner died a few years ago, her brother and niece changed the name to Reign Spa.
Really wish I was near some water because the rest of the day was boring and uneventful until I met Jim. Jim is a retired vet who spent 6 years in Brazil, 2 in the Dominican Republic, and has been in A. See for the past 3 years. Jim is who I want to be.LOL. I know you didn't meet that character! Most of the time I mention a friend that lives in AC, I am talking about him. I first met him long long time ago when he was living in Rio. He lived all over Brazil, then moved to DR. He lived all over DR (he was there longer than 2 years.) Then he moved to Costa Rica. Then back to DR. All these years I had been telling him he needed to go to Thailand. Then all of a sudden he ends up in AC and still hasn't been to Thailand yet. I have given up even mentioning it to him although he always brings it up still. I didn't know he was back in AC. He was just in the States the other day for his mom's birthday and had sent me a message talking about going to Juarez, Mexico. Tell him that I will be out there next week.
I see you found why I can't take but two days in AC. It is cool at night, but boring as shit during the day. All I do is walk back and forth between Kokomo's and Margarita Station with Jim and the crew. I keep telling him it is much more shit to do in Pattaya.
TomJones06
05-13-18, 07:57
Raw is a mistake but worth rolling the dice? Have you ever gone to the safe sex clinic in USA? They want you to cut a rubber length-wise and spread it over the pussy before you lick the pussy. They are really strict about safe sex. And you are raw dogging an AC pro multiple times including butt play? Are you sick man? I have raw dogged vagina before but I get up right afterwards and scrub my dick, and poor bactine down my hole. And if I eat Pro pussy then I brush and gargle and scrub my lips with alcohol.LOL, statistical speaking, I have a better chance of catching something messing with a non pro American girl than I do a chick in A. See. Plus, my health Care is free! My boss tells me that I'm not a real sailor until I've reported to medical after a port call. What I won't do is mess around with anybody else before I get tested. I will roll the risk on possibly catching something, but I won't run the risk of passing something.
Naked Gunz
05-13-18, 21:23
LOL, statistical speaking, I have a better chance of catching something messing with a non pro American girl than I do a chick in A. See. Plus, my health Care is free! My boss tells me that I'm not a real sailor until I've reported to medical after a port call.I won't do raw anymore in the Phils. That's the only place in got NSU, and I have risked raw in many places, including Africa.
OlderMan4U
05-14-18, 03:48
Raw is a mistake but worth rolling the dice? Have you ever gone to the safe sex clinic in USA? They want you to cut a rubber length-wise and spread it over the pussy before you lick the pussy. They are really strict about safe sex. And you are raw dogging an AC pro multiple times including butt play? Are you sick man? I have raw dogged vagina before but I get up right afterwards and , and scrub my dick, and poor bactine down my hole. And if I eat Pro pussy then I brush and gargle and scrub my lips with alcohol.I've caught a few things in Thailand but these happened from covered sex, so it was from going down on one chick and receiving BBBJ from another. I've not gotten anything from barebacking though.
It's always a risk we take in this game, some are more willing to accept it than others, and these guys always seek reassurances that risky sex in Asia is completely safe.
Only in Asia though I do more risky sex. When I go to Tijuana I have absolutely zero desire to bareback or go down on the chicks. Some of them even didn't want to shower before sex.
I won't do raw anymore in the Phils. That's the only place in got NSU, and I have risked raw in many places, including Africa.I have also risked raw in many places and I've caught an STD every once in a while. But that has never stopped me from barebacking.
You have only caught NSU once, in the Phils, and you immediately stop going bareback in the Phils. Why? Statistically you could just as well have caught it in another country.
I've caught a few things ...so it was from going down on one chick and receiving BBBJ from another.Can you elaborate on what you caught from going down on a chick? Would it be gonorrhea in your throat, or herpes on the lips, or something else?
TomJones06
05-15-18, 13:38
As I sit at home and think back on my first trip to A. See and the Philippines as a whole, I find myself with more questions than answers. Now this could be the alcohol talking, but I didn't have as much fun as I thought I would. Sure, I ran dry sexing up young sexy women, but what was the point? I have been married before, and I know for a fact that that the concept of marriage to an American woman is a hell I will never subject myself to again. I have always preferred a solitary lifestyle, couple that with being a sailor and mongering just kind of fell into my lap. My time spent with a young lady named Marlene kind of scared me. Marlene is 28, has a 9 year old son and recently returned from Saudia Arabia where she said she worked as an in home aide. Probably a lie, but who cares, she was hot. Anyway, after spending a day with this beauty I started having visions of "saving her" and bringing her home with me. Of course, the more time I spent with her the quicker these feelings fled. She was constantly declining calls from somebody (or multiple somebodies) and as we were showing each other pictures in our phones I saw many pictures of other guys who were previously in my position no doubt. So yes, I fell for a hooker, but I just as quickly came back to my senses. This episode has me questioning my attitude towards marriage. Am I against marriage as a whole, or am I simply jaded by the American woman? I am only 30, but I also still have 8 years of active duty Naval service left to complete, so marriage is not in my future if at all, anytime soon. With all of that being said, I am planning my trip to Cebu in October!
Chocha Monger
05-15-18, 15:08
Can you elaborate on what you caught from going down on a chick? Would it be gonorrhea in your throat, or herpes on the lips, or something else?It can be either or both. Gonorrheal tonsillitis is common in practitioners of cunnilingus, as is herpes on the lips or oro-facial herpes. Throat cancer is also a risk associated with cunnilingus due to ingestion of the human papilloma virus from the infectious vaginal fluids. Obviously, performing raw cunnilingus on a prostitute is high-risk oral sex.
Naked Gunz
05-15-18, 23:51
You have only caught NSU once, in the Phils, and you immediately stop going bareback in the Phils. Why? Statistically you could just as well have caught it in another country.OK, I lied. Twice in the Phils, and a case of the clap in Subic about 12 years ago. "Statistics" have only bitten my cork in the Phils! My posts reflect heavy pumping in Kenya, with a few bb instances, but so far, so good. I am transitioning back to heavy rotation in the Phils, maybe even retirement, and the Pinays have always seemed ignorant of safety. I still sometimes drunkenly practice bareback occasionally if I get no push back from the chic, but I usually cover my soldier in Kevlar. I really like the thin Japanese. 001 condoms, but I go a bit long while having so much fun and they break.
As I sit at home and think back on my first trip to A. See and the Philippines as a whole, I find myself with more questions than answers. Now this could be the alcohol talking, but I didn't have as much fun as I thought I would. Sure, I ran dry sexing up young sexy women, but what was the point? I have been married before, and I know for a fact that that the concept of marriage to an American woman is a hell I will never subject myself to again. I have always preferred a solitary lifestyle, couple that with being a sailor and mongering just kind of fell into my lap. My time spent with a young lady named Marlene kind of scared me. Marlene is 28, has a 9 year old son and recently returned from Saudia Arabia where she said she worked as an in home aide. Probably a lie, but who cares, she was hot. Anyway, after spending a day with this beauty I started having visions of "saving her" and bringing her home with me. Of course, the more time I spent with her the quicker these feelings fled. She was constantly declining calls from somebody (or multiple somebodies) and as we were showing each other pictures in our phones I saw many pictures of other guys who were previously in my position no doubt. So yes, I fell for a hooker, but I just as quickly came back to my senses. This episode has me questioning my attitude towards marriage. Am I against marriage as a whole, or am I simply jaded by the American woman? I am only 30, but I also still have 8 years of active duty Naval service left to complete, so marriage is not in my future if at all, anytime soon. With all of that being said, I am planning my trip to Cebu in October!No easy answer for you, but this will help get your mind going. Try Sandman channel on Youtube, he has great videos that make you think. You can also submit your own questions to him I believe. Might require a donation.
The military teaches you to manage your otherwise un-inhibited nature, it teaches you to discipline and to act more purposefully, in the face of reflexes and temptations. Female nature has a slew of temptations that just fuck over men. Men have a slew of temptations that just fuck over women. You don't have such practice against these temptations and you don't always know when you are rationalizing. It's a good thing you were man #4, 5, 6 whatever. So that those photos and text messages she was avoiding could actually wake you up before you become a victim to her female nature, or the will of her reproductive genes.
Although, I recommend Filipino women (not hookers, ever, virgins only), as an alternative to western women (I'm Filipino American), to my closest friends. It will take some time to really know if it is someone you should marry, and more time than being in the military will allow you. I also recommend Stefan Molyneux's Youtube videos on The Truth About Sex. Statistically, the number of sexual partners a woman has in a lifetime exponentially increases the chance of divorce.
Given the state of things, if you enjoy the feelings of love, I recommend be loving for the period and forget commitment. Love and let go, repeat.
Saving women is a bad idea, wherever you are, I believe it would sink you eventually. Your confidence and competency in the areas that do give you self-esteem, do not apply in the land of saving someone else. You don't have the freedom to even do what's necessary, exert the influence that is necessary for saving, let alone connecting sufficiently that you can feel secure in not getting screwed over, intentionally or unintentionally. Pointing is about all you can do, then abandoning them to their own devices.
Naked Gunz
05-16-18, 00:02
Can you elaborate on what you caught from going down on a chick? Would it be gonorrhea in your throat, or herpes on the lips, or something else?I could not handle the embarrassment of mouth clap, or the lifetime sentence of herpes anywhere! I don't go down on strangers- besides -they are there to please me, not the other way around. I could care less if a pro gets an orgasm. Why do I detect extreme sarcasm in your question, hehe!
It can be either or both. Gonorrheal tonsillitis is common in practitioners of cunnilingus, as is herpes on the lips or oro-facial herpes. Throat cancer is also a risk associated with cunnilingus due to ingestion of the human papilloma virus from the infectious vaginal fluids. Obviously, performing raw cunnilingus on a prostitute is high-risk oral sex.Not to mention pussy-lickers cramp where your mouth is puckered up and your tongue flutters in and out like a lizard. I have seen many a monger with 'the cramp' walking around fields at 2 am after getting done with a BF. They go out looking for some buko juice as they need to drink from a straw. I think the cramp is why Buko juice is so popular in Angeles.
The only thing worse than pussy-lickers cramp is cock-suckers cramp where a girls lips are making a big 'O'. But few girls in Angeles get this cramp as few really know how to suck cock well and do it for long. If you find one, hold onto her. LOL.
OlderMan4U
05-16-18, 02:44
Can you elaborate on what you caught from going down on a chick? Would it be gonorrhea in your throat, or herpes on the lips, or something else?I don't remember exactly what it was but I did go to the ER right after I got back from my trip (few days after I was with the girl).
I had the worst sore throat in my life. It felt swollen and it hurt so much to swallow it made me tear up every time I tried to eat something. They gave me some coating on my throat and some pills as I recall. I can't think of anything else I did on that trip to give me such bad throat pain (never had anything like that before or since) and her pussy wasn't exactly the freshest smelling thing.
Member #4566
05-16-18, 03:27
Obviously, performing raw cunnilingus on a prostitute is high-risk oral sex.And since it provides absolutely no stimulation to one's erectile tissue, situated principally at the head of one's dick, it is utterly pointless.
Obviously, performing raw cunnilingus on a prostitute is high-risk oral sex.
And since it provides absolutely no stimulation to one's erectile tissue, situated principally at the head of one's dick, it is utterly pointless.I disagree. CM's statement that it is high-risk sex is a gross exaggeration (as usual).
And I also disagree with Pompetus' statement that it is pointless. If a woman likes to be licked and gets all wet and horny then it certainly stimulates my erection. It's true that it doesn't stimulate your erectile tissue, but your brain and hormones also play an important role in sexual stimulation. You can say it's indirect stimulation.
The other way around a woman can get horny when she's giving you a blowjob, without being stimulated directly by you.
Soapy Smith
05-16-18, 08:40
If a woman likes to be licked and gets all wet and horny then it certainly stimulates my erection. It's true that it doesn't stimulate your erectile tissue, but your brain and hormones also play an important role in sexual stimulation. I find that women who have been brought to orgasm orally or merely to a highly aroused plateau tend to be quite energized when I replace my tongue with my dick. Of course, there's no point worrying about the woman's arousal if all you want is an inert vessel to create friction for your fucking. In which case any old blowup doll or flower vase will do.
I don't remember exactly what it was but I did go to the ER right after I got back from my trip (few days after I was with the girl).
I had the worst sore throat in my life. It felt swollen and it hurt so much to swallow it made me tear up every time I tried to eat something. They gave me some coating on my throat and some pills as I recall. I can't think of anything else I did on that trip to give me such bad throat pain (never had anything like that before or since) and her pussy wasn't exactly the freshest smelling thing.Wow, sounds pretty bad, and unlike some sort of flu virus or common cold type of sore throat. Really sounds like you caught some sort of STD.
I don't dine at theY myself, but I have seen so many reports on this forum of mongers who do so, and how the chick became "really wet", and had "multiple orgasms". So, I was thinking I must be missing out on something! But I would rather skip the side effects and not have to head to the clinic the next day.
Thanks for sharing.
Member #4698
05-16-18, 12:59
I find that women who have been brought to orgasm orally or merely to a highly aroused plateau tend to be quite energized when I replace my tongue with my dick. Of course, there's no point worrying about the woman's arousal if all you want is an inert vessel to create friction for your fucking. In which case any old blowup doll or flower vase will do.
If a woman likes to be licked and gets all wet and horny then it certainly stimulates my erection. It's true that it doesn't stimulate your erectile tissue, but your brain and hormones also play an important role in sexual stimulation. You can say it's indirect stimulation.
The other way around a woman can get horny when she's giving you a blowjob, without being stimulated directly by you.This is absolutely true. On many occasions over the years I have witnessed how a little skilled cunnilingus turned what would have been a rather dismal mediocre session into something memorable; a reluctant girl into a passionate girl, a girl who did not want to kiss into a big kisser, a girl who all she wanted to do was finish the job and get the hell out as fast as she could into a girl who was enjoying the session and wanted to make me happy too, and specifically a girl who only wanted covered sex in one position, missionary, into a bareback multiple position wonton of a girl. In other words, a little DATY can turn night into day. Of course, I am pretty picky about who I choose to go down on. I don't go down on just any girl. I always inspect the goods close up before diving in and I have relatively pretty high standards.
And for those men not into DATY, there is always skilled hand and finger clitoral stimulation, but frankly, I have not mastered that technique nearly as well as I have mastered the art of cunnilingus. I guess the reason for that is because I enjoy going down on girls, particular girls, which brings me to my final point which is that the mind is a vital erotic organ too. I love clits & vaginas and it turns me on and gets me hard whenever I go down on a quality vagina. For example, one of my all time favorite postions is the 69. It is so gnarly and naughty, LOL. It really turns me on. And another one of my favorite postions is when one girl sits on my face while a 2nd girl rides my dick cowgirl. I love that one too!
But as a vagina gourmand, I will say that not all vaginas are equal. Some vaginas are gorgeous and taste really good. Others not so much. Ha Ha. So be selective, stay thirsty & enjoy the feast!
NB.
I enjoy DATY as well. There is a strong positive-feedback loop of pleasure between me and the girl. My last STD screening came back negative, even for the HPVs 1 and 2, so I have been pretty lucky so far. I enjoy uncovered oral, but I always wrap the rascal prior to vaginal sex.
I practice a safety routine to minimize risks. Knowing that Cranberry supplements are recommended to women to prevent Urinary Tract Infections, I start taking these pills a week before I visit, to make my urinary tract less hospitable to foreign invaders. We both take showers first, then brush teeth and both use Listerine Antiseptic mouthwash to minimize the amount of possible oral bacteria (whenever I use it at home, my dick gets hard for some reason, perhaps a conditioned response? Guys have an advantage over girls because we can flush out any foreign matter in the urethra with a good, strong orgasm. Afterwards, I try to take a leak as well. Then comes another round of Listerine, followed by application of hand sanitizer on and around my lips (but not on the penis, LOL! And another shower.
Nothing but abstinence is risk-free, but my goal is to minimize risk while still having fun. My understanding is that an infection needs a critical mass of surviving organisms to get started so I do what I can to minimize that number.
I'd be happy to hear about others' routines.
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