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Sammon,
True. Better to stay in the PI if you want to marry a Filipina. Guys who bring their foreign wife back to the Western country are making a huge mistake. The girl quickly picks up bad habits and attitudes from Western woman, frequently leaving him divorced and broke. I've seen it happen too many times!
Chocha Monger
07-05-18, 22:39
That has led to NSU for me there more times than I want to remember.The risk of getting a case of thunder balls is the price of admission for experiencing a tight slippery hot Pinay puss in all its wetness. There is no way to dip your man meat into that ebony-lipped Pinay oyster and savor the raw sensations without consuming a few bad ones along the way.
Chocha Monger
07-05-18, 23:21
Bareback is easy with young girls who do not have a kid. Sometimes difficult with those have kids. Having a kid before they are 25 is an ambition with Phi girls irrespective of marriage. After they have one kid they are happy although they struggle for support. That is where we come into the picture. Few thousand pesos will solve their immediate needs. IMHO they know very well long term stability with a foreigner is very rare even among the pretty ones.
They may marry older foreigners toget out of the country and according to my previous girls who have done that they are not happy at all. They do not fit into the western society well. Besides age difference haunts them. Hanging around with old wrinkly as a trophy wife irritates them because in western society it is rare.That is true. The childless 18-21 year-old Pinays always want bareback cum-in-pussy, as baby making is their greatest ambition. They are happy to add a foreign monger's cream pie to their gene pool. Many of them come from remote rural villages where most of the inhabitants of the barangay are relatives to various degrees. Avoid dropping loads in the ones that already gave birth, as your baby will have to compete with the older kids for rice porridge and milk.
Taking a Pinay back to Western society is a great way to make your life hell. Pinays cannot kick their bad habits like borrowing money with no intention or ability to repay it. If a monger is married to one in a community property state, she can take on debts and bankrupt an old pensioner on a fixed income before he knows what hit him. The risk is very high for those with kids from the trike-driver boyfriend. They will try to wire ever-growing amounts of their husband's money back to their kids and relatives.
Once she realizes that marriage to a wrinkled dick is not the norm in Western society and becomes unhappy, she will start fucking all the young fellas with hard dicks who will start coming around. Eventually, she will divorce the old husband and upgrade. Pinays may describe themselves as 'simple' and 'humble' but they are very ambitious and calculating. They will always want more, and Western advertising and marketing will always have something that they need to buy with their husbands' money. Managing their expectations can easily become a full time job.
This works well and can cut costs if the OP is looking for a repeat ST before or after work. However, if he wants full days a bar fine will still be payable for every shift she is not at work.
The advantages of continuous "rolling" barfines are that she will be more of a GFE to say "thanks" for the ongoing income, you remove the risk from getting repeated unknown girls and yes, you get her for 24 hours per day (maybe minus a couple of hours to go home and get some clothes, if she needs them).I agree with this. The price is the same but the performance is different. There is a difference with negotiating the rolling barfine with the bar v the girl. If the bar is doing the price then the girl will get a fixed price per day and the upside tips will come from you. If the girl has negotiated the rolling bar fine price from you then she will know how to optimize the pricing to the bar to her benefit through a combination of excuses; absences, sick aunties, etc etc. You will be the one to hand her the wad of cash which she will then manage to optimise to her benefit.
Negotiating before / after shift regulars has not been a successful strategy for me. They turn up late to meet but have a fixed bar appearance time. Then after shift they are tired or get a bar fine and don't arrive at all or want to get picked up at 3:30 am. Once there is a bar involved it's hard unless everyone is getting their cut.
Similarly negotiating with a call center girl is hard as they also have their shifts and need sleep. May not suit holidaying mongers. For me, I'm looking for a call center girl that works similar hours to me, means she's not bored when I'm working and also tired when I'm tired.
For tourist / holiday need to find a girl that meets your requirements. And it can be done. Just ask.
Pina.
Licking is not even necessary. When the Pinay is sucking your cock, just tell her that you "want to make baby" with her and she will let you ram it in raw and cum-in-pussy. Most do not like rubbers any more than mongers do, and complain if you use one because you are treating them as if they have "a sickness."Your title "Pinays are pre-lubed" is also another tip to remember when going for the bareback plunge. Having it slide right in will greatly increase the chance the girl won't be asking for a condom. Bang around the outside with alot of painful thrusts and the condom request is sure to follow. A little lube while your fingering her helps things along nicely.
Your title "Pinays are pre-lubed" is also another tip to remember when going for the bareback plunge. Having it slide right in will greatly increase the chance the girl won't be asking for a condom. Bang around the outside with alot of painful thrusts and the condom request is sure to follow. A little lube while your fingering her helps things along nicely.I have not had a Pinay that needed lube. On a few occasions I put lube on the tip of my Willy to get it on the real tight ones otherwise I couldn't get in without putting a kink in my Willy. After insertion it is all slippery and wet.
As far as the 80 year old Grannies 2. 0 being all self lubed up I will take CM word on it. I haven't experienced any grannies at all. I will defer to his experience and expertise on it.
Could be a setup with a minor or some other scam.
By the way: was the older lady you were talking about really an old lady, as in 50+ or 60+? Or was she just a little bit older than the other girls?Re: dangerous / scam.
Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.
Re: older lady.
Much older, yeah, probably 50's, possibly 60's. Maybe 40's looking just heavily aged. Definitely over 40. Also, I just came back from AC a few days ago and I think I saw the same lady with one of the same girls. I think they legit weren't working together and are now legit working together.
Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.
Are my eyes not open?
Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?
Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at 8 or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.
Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.
Any help?
Member #4566
07-09-18, 23:36
Re: dangerous / scam.
Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.
Absolutely. Extortion. Pay up or threatened with jail. Be extra wary of girls working the street (WeChat etc). If there is a question of age insist on ID. Take a pic of the ID and send it to a secure account and make sure she sees you doing it. If she looks young even with ID don't do it. I have heard of phony re*ap allegations as a pretext to extortion. The police can be complicit in these schemes.
I believe that that Angeles is more dangerous for this thing than any where else in the PI. They are more schooled and experienced in dealing with tourists.
Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere.
Any help?You 'don't know where to look'.
Some Help: when you see a girl that catches your eye, go talk to her. You know, like you do at home, or wherever you are.
Mr Enternational
07-10-18, 05:10
Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups.
Are my eyes not open?
What is wrong with them being in groups? You think hookers must go out alone? Like Golfinho said, when you see someone you like go talk to them. Then you find out what angle they are coming from. Seems you want chicks to wear an I am a hooker sign.
Re: dangerous / scam.
Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.Sure it is. Guys get stitched up all the time. However, I've never seen a total innocent being harassed. Karma is a bit#h in Asia so if you play with fire (under a#e girls, violence, non payment for services delivered or just being a dickhead), you will get burned.
Stay under the radar and everyone will be fine.
I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.
Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?
Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.
I have heard rumours that as of July 2 solliciting in the streets is not tolerated anymore in Angeles. It seems that the mayor is behind this. Can anyone confirm this? I can't find anything on internet.According to a streetwalker I know they are not allowed to hang out in front of Kokomos anymore. But they can still walk up and down the street to look for customers.
So not much lost here because the girls hanging out in front of Kokomos are usually not the best ones. (With a few exceptions like the 22 yo little spinner, face 8, body 9, no kids, tight pussy, that hangs around there too quite often. Don't expect a GFE though, she's an optic fuck. But a great optic fuck LOL.).
Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.On WS and Fields the numbers vary a lot from day to day. Usually there are more on Friday and Saturday nights.
The problem with Pinays is that most of them won't offer themselves to you because they are shy. And if they do, they are not the best looking ones usually (like the girls in front of Kokomos, see my previous post). Another problem is they are walking up and down the street all the time. It's not like Beach Road in Pattaya where they are standing still and are easy to approach.
So you'll have to take the initiative. Follow them, smile, say hello.
Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.
....................Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.
Yes. It is a honey trap and has been used all over the world, especially third world countries. Avoid it at all costs. As other posters have cautioned, check ID and avoid if still in doubt. This will ruin your life. People have been shaken down by people in uniform or taken to a station to be shaken down properly.
Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.If you want to bar fine a girl, ask if a particular girl is available for bar fine before spending money on drinks. The manager would know or ask the girl. It will avoid red days and disappointments.
Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?
Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.
Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.
Any help?I would follow another poster called MonkeyPaw. A lot of people have come down hard on him but I think he makes some very good points, gives a lot of details and posts pictures.
This is how I hunt. I saw, I came, and I conquered, all on first try. No worries about rejection. I'll be honest, Nam didn't have the most beautiful face in the club, but hers was very cute and nice enough. Billboard is full of slender girls with no tits and no ass at all. For me, Nam had the best overall package when you look at her face, body, hair, skin, tits, ass, and spoken English. If you are going to a Go Go bar and you get to inspect the body and face ahead of time, why shouldn't you be leaving there with girl that has the entire package in terms of looks?You can approach any adult. Just don't be creepy. Focus on the one you are interested in and find some reason to talk to her or offer her some refreshments. Get her number if you think she is uncomfortable talking to you in front of her friends. Another poster mentioned printing out contact cards. If you look at the pictures I posted last month, that girl is a civilian but she gets stopped all the time by foreign boys asking for directions or trying to talk to her. You might see her on the Internet on somebodies facebook surrounded by lustful foreign guys.
Another girl in my stable gets stopped all the time to have her picture taken by foreigners. And these are young strapping handsome blond guys. Both girls have told me stories and asked me why. I just laugh because I know they are trying to make me jealous. They are both on social media and somehow some guys get their contact details and make these funny offers of clothing, money and just REAL creepy stuff. Again, the girls would show me to try and get me jealous. I just laugh at the games that goes on. Luckily for me, I never really played those games. Read MonkeyPaws posts. Girls spend a lot of time or their whole lives learning how to manipulate boys.
Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.
Are my eyes not open?.
I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.
Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?
Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.Dante,
Point by point:
"Rolling" barfines are very common. I and others have done it many times. Expect to pay the same daily rates for each night you have the girl. If you have clicked with the girl, it can be a good experience for all parties. You will get a known performer. The girl is likely to say "thanks" for the on going income. In most bars if you return with her for drinks, because you have all ready bar fined her, her drinks will be standards not LDs.
Vacationing with a BG receives both positive and negative reviews. Search my posts for "Holidaying with a Hooker" for my generally negative experience. Basically great sex for 2 weeks but everything else was a complete mind fuck. I wouldn't repeat but many have had positive experiences and would disagree with me.
LLT rates are best if you nominate what you are willing to pay rather than ask her or the bar. Obviously, if you ask her, she will try to work out a scheme to cut out the bar. This can portentially save you money. However, keep in mind that many of the better bars will hold the girl accountable for bar fines especially if she "returns to the Province" immediately after being bar fined for a couple of days. In my case I paid 10 k per week which was the girl's normal nightly income of 1. 5 paid weekly. She missed out on drink and dancing income but did receive the tip everyday. To her this was worth while. She worked out a deal with her mamasan that I wasn't part of. I think a little money changed hands but it wasn't a lot. Note that at the time I was a regular customer of hers and the bar generally so they knew that when we returned both would be getting on going busoness from me. Both told the bar that she was going home and no bar fine was payable.
Three- or more-somes are notorious for being over promise under deliver. Personally I love them and have had many. Unfortunately, they have been the full spectrum from a total disappointment to an incredible good time.
Things to do to improve the odds:
Always pick the first girl you like and then have HER pick a friend to bring home as well. Do not tell your first pick that "by the way, we are taking Mary home and you are going to fuck her. " Both girls need to be very comfortable in each other's presence. Especially if you want some girl on girl action.
Be very clear on what your definition of a threesome is and agree on it before paying and leaving. Want to fuck one girl and then the other? Tell them. Want one girl to suck your balls while you fuck her friend? Tell them. Want to jack off while they fuck each other? Tell them. Want to go straight from one pussy to another pussy or mouth? Tell them. If you do not make expectations clear do not be surprised at objections when the action heats up.
If a girl is unsure or hesitant do not push her as the anxiety will just get worse rather than better back in the room. Better to call it quits and try some one else. If you are not a regular in the bar, don't be afraid to ask mama if she has some girls that like to play together. She will know the limits of all her girls and with her recommendation, the girls are more likely to deliver in full.
If you are dealing with the loudest most outgoing girl in the bar and she is telling you all the dirty things she will do to her friend while you fuck her be very cautious. She is probably just talking up a storm which will never eventuate. If she invites more girls to come along and suggests a full on orgy, RUN. She is playing you for a sucker who will pay 5 bar fines while 3 girls sit in the bathroom or watch TV.
I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.
Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?
Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.How about a field report? You have many questions.
Wicked Roger
07-10-18, 22:59
How about a field report? You have many questions.He asks lots but rarely if any contributes DG. Look back at FR history and he was in Thailand but limited sharing also. Same here I suspect. AC is all you want it to be if you just wander out into the street. It is not hard to get what you want but Dante who is 29 and takes V seems to think it is rocket science.
Dante. It is not, AC is a full of everything but is not everyone's flavour so RTFF as most if not all of your questions are answered by others as there is a such a wealth of information on this thread.
I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.That's a good point. SM Clark Mall in AC is not the same hunting ground as malls in Cebu or Manila.
The advantage of the new dating apps is that a "good girl" can operate via a dating scenario without being seen in her usual places.
PL.
Member #4566
07-11-18, 01:29
there is a such a wealth of information on this thread.What are you kidding? Get real. You ought to take your own advice and read the fuckin' forum yourself for you will find that most of it consists of running commentary among member who feed off each other. The info that is in the forum is not packaged well and specific details are difficult to find. Questioners with specific interests are chided by "contributors" with over 5,000 posts (5 fuckin' thousand!) for not reading through all the irrelevant folderol. They are told to make FR's before they qualify to have questions answered. What a bunch of small minded peckerheads. If you don't want to answer the fuckin' question then don't but don't discourage the questions in the first place. RTFF and you will see just how those attitudes narrow the number of ISG "contributors" on the Philippine forum to just a handful of the same old same old. Leave people the fuck alone.
I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.
Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?
Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.In spite of girls are telling you you need to pay daily barfine if you take her for a week traveling it is a myth. Girls can take off to visit home, visit relatives or just take a vacation. I have done it couple of times taking girls on vacation. Just paid 1000 per day plus expenses and shopping gifts. If the girl likes you she will tell the bar specifically the mamas an who recruited her that she is going to attend some relatives wedding or somebody died etc as excuses. In this case looser is mamasan as she gets a cut of the girls earnings. Always negotiate with the girl. Never take girls word for it.
I had had several threesomes and couple of times foursomes. Girls do not like you switching partners without washing. No porn movie type sex. They prefer you finish one, take a shower and so on. Bareback is normal in Philippines. In USA girls want you to change condoms.
Wicked Roger
07-11-18, 02:34
What are you kidding? Get real. You ought to take your own advice and read the fuckin' forum yourself for you will find that most of it consists of running commentary among member who feed off each other. The info that is in the forum is not packaged well and specific details are difficult to find. Questioners with specific interests are chided by "contributors" with over 5,000 posts (5 fuckin' thousand!) for not reading through all the irrelevant folderol. They are told to make FR's before they qualify to have questions answered. What a bunch of small minded peckerheads. If you don't want to answer the fuckin' question then don't but don't discourage the questions in the first place. RTFF and you will see just how those attitudes narrow the number of ISG "contributors" on the Philippine forum to just a handful of the same old same old. Leave people the fuck alone.Pomp.
Previously you have been asked to provide advice and photos to those you chastise for saying RTFF. Yet again you have not which suggests you don't have much to give and never been to the Philippines.
Yes the forum is all over the place for info but RTFF using different search words and you find a wealth of information. You clearly don't.
When I first came to Manila I did lots of RTFF and found great info. No it was not neatly packaged as Dante clearly wants and you seem to think he should have. I searched # Made notes and then contacted a few seniors with questions. That is how it should be IMHO. Recently (ie yesterday) a good contributor to the Philippine board PM me (a long one) about Cebu and I was happy to help. He had clearly RTFF and had specific questions His questions were similar in some ways to Dante but he had done his homework (that was obvious based on what he was asking).
Loso69 did the same for Abu Dhabi years ago and when we met we had a great time. All because he bothered to RTFF.
So as you find my reply so bad here is a suggestion. You reply to Dante in full with all details to save him time. I would for one like to see what you give in info as you give little but criticise a lot. You never post photos and never say anything about your past adventures so please reply to Dante FRs in full so we can all benefit from your vast wealth of data that you can freely share with a manager.
And remember we have PM and you got good info that way and that is how it should be done after RTFF and especially AC as really if you can't come her and figure it out quickly don't come to AC in my view.
Look forward to your very long FR answering all Dante's questions. DG had it right IMHO.
I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.That's why I said to be careful and that malls are a different kind of hunting ground, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. Especially 'good' sales ladies are often interested.
Chocha Monger
07-11-18, 18:37
I had had several threesomes and couple of times foursomes. Girls do not like you switching partners without washing. No porn movie type sex. They prefer you finish one, take a shower and so on. Bareback is normal in Philippines.The showering and disinfecting of the monger's cock when switching between girls in threesomes and foursomes is something the girls only do when bareback anal is involved and the monger gets a bit of brown stuff on his bell end. Especially where the monger goes bareback ATM and ATP from one girl to the next.
Mr Enternational
07-11-18, 21:18
I had had several threesomes and couple of times foursomes. Girls do not like you switching partners without washing. No porn movie type sex. They prefer you finish one, take a shower and so on. Bareback is normal in Philippines. In USA girls want you to change condoms.I guess most people don't realize that porn movies are edited. So just because you didn't see John Handcock take his dick out and wash it before sticking it into Mary Jane Rottencrotch, does not mean it did not happen. Also you also don't see the bloopers from porn movies when the guy took his dick out and there was a big glob of shit on it.
Member #4698
07-11-18, 23:33
I had had several threesomes and couple of times foursomes. Girls do not like you switching partners without washing. No porn movie type sex. They prefer you finish one, take a shower and so on. Bareback is normal in Philippines. In USA girls want you to change condoms.I have threesomes with my two favorite repeat Burgos girls more often than I see them one on one. I have similar relations with a few different sets of my favorite Sukhumvit girls too. I like threesomes a LOT! In all cases the girls insist that I change condoms every time I want to enter a different pussy. That's is too bad, but it's life. As a result of this constraint there is no need for washing between a change in pussy, but sadly, no bareback either even though I bareback one of my Burgos threesome girls and one of my Sukhumvit threesome girls when I am with them alone. I don't fully fathom their logic, but I guess its a combination of modesty, they don't want their GF's to know they bareback me and or they don't trust their GF's hygiene. In any case I am sworn to secrecy so I don't say nada.
I congratulate you on your foursomes and your endurance. I have only had one foursome ever, not counting the orgies I attended in my youth, My memorable foursome occurred on my farewell night in MNL 2015. My two favorites from the last paragraph pleaded with me to let their GF come along for the festivities. I am glad I did, because it was like the 3rd girl threw kerosene on the party igniting it and my two regular girls went wild like I had never seen them before dancing on coffe table together, feeling each other up on the couch, and all 4 of us bathing together in a large tub. Of course, in bed I had to change a condom every time I wanted to change pussy, and that can get a little crazy with 4 girls. Stop and go. It's a good thing my favorite position is one girl riding my dick while another girl sits on my face. No washing or condoms required when girls trade places on my face. LOL.
Fast Eddie 48
07-12-18, 01:52
I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.
Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?
Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.To Dante.
I don't care for threesome much I like one on one action better for long term, I have taking girl for long trip from Manila that I meet online not bar girls one time to Bohol and one time to Baguio for 4 days treat them like girlfriend no money is mention I paid for all expense and I give them 8000 - 10000 p both time both are college girls from poor family and no I will not take a bar girl on a long trip with me.
Fast Eddie 48.
Naked Gunz
07-12-18, 03:17
I but sadly, no bareback. LOL.No actually it's a good idea to use your latex and change often wit Phils threesome. The only time I caught something in all my worldwide mongering was in Phils. Back in the day (2007) in Subic, I had a monster tit one and a sweet, but flat chest in a threesome in a cheap hotel. I announced myself as BF to each, and I would kiss on one while pumping the other, I was in heaven, but I ended up catching a dose-probably from monster tit because she was more it the game. Only in Phils I ha caught that dose, and NSU a couple times. Those Pinay are sweet but clueless about hygiene. I have had vasectomy, so I always explain that and try to get BB after a test. That worked well for a very tight pussy Africa. Tight as a snare drum!
Arrived from manila airport with genesis bus for 350 pesos to sm clark at angeles was little bit traffic at manila so it takes 2 hours 20 minutes. Walk to devera hotel where I usually stay room was already booked in advance for 1200 pesos per night they even give me same room like last time. This time I come not prepared with many girls contacts so was more difficult to find girls who accept 600-800 for short time. Anyway ariange threesome with 5 month pregnant girl and her friend for 1000 pesos each and make a deal they will stay 2 hours and allowed me to cum 2 times. The girls was young and quiet funny they kiss each other and touch just don't want lick each other anyway it was good sex. I pay them and give big chocolate.
To share like a tip and they left.
Later go out meet some friends have some drinks and hit high society at 2 am it was 250 pesos entry fee many girls inside I collect 4-5 numbers from girls I like and have more drinks. I offered some good looking girls 1 k for short time and get refused anyway I wasnt keen to pay more this time. Around 5 am in a morning almost before hiso close and all beautiful girls almost gone I saw a girl she was looking cute I offered her 1 k for long time she said 2 k I start walk away she grab my hand and said lets go. We walk back to hotel, buy some drinks at mini stop. When we comeback hotel I have one more san migel light and fall to sleep because was so drunk.
In a morning around 11 am girl wake up me and said she is leaving and ask 2000 pesos. I just laugh and said we even not fuck yet and we agree for 1 k so don't need bola bola for me. She smiles and didint said nothing. She start wank for me and make me hard I put condom and fuck her for a while after take of condom and she start blowjob after 5 minutes I cum her in the mouth. I give her 1 k and one bottle of san migel light and she left. I had so bad hangover so decided don't get drunk anymore.
Wake up with still bad hangover around 4 pm. Go out have some late lunch and come back hotel again start texting hiso girls contacts get just 2 reply from 5 girls. I offered them 800 pesos for short time both refused to come. I text other good looking 19 years old girl from my facebook contacts (last time on my previous trip she don't agree to come my hotel for 1 k). Now is low season so I offered here same 1 k and she said she can be at my hotel after 1 hour.
She arrived on time (not so ussual for most of filipinas girls) she was looking great cute face, nice body (no kids) and good attitude. I make couple photos of her, we sit on bed have some conversation drink san migel apple and after fuck. She done good bareback blowjob after covered sex. She makes me cum I showerd after we talk little bit more and agree to meet for long time next time for 1. 5 k. In total she stay with me around 1. 5 hours I pay her 1 k and she left.
Nightime I went to hiso again around 1 pm was already many people because it was Saturday night entry fee was 250 pesos. I collect some numbers from girls offered couple of them 1 k short time but get refused. I walk around drink couple of san migel apple and saw the girl with cute face and nice body I make some conversation and offer 1 k for short time she said 1500 I said no 1 k and she agree. We go out it was raining very strong so I take trike back to my hotel for 100 pesos. We come back hotel take shower together with a girl and have some fun at bed. She makes me cum I give her 1 k and we walk back both to hiso. I take her facebook and said bye to her.
I try to find other girl for short time or all night. Some hiso (superstars) I offered 1500 k for long time but they refused and said 3 k I just laugh and walk away. Most of them I saw after hiso closes walk home alone (probably they have silly sponsors who support them so they not desperate for money). Hiso closes and I go phillies bar have some breakfast. After I walk back my hotel and saw 2 good looking girls who was at hiso before but didint get costumers (the girls from group who thinks they are
Hiso superstars) I ask number one of the girl she write it on my phone also save my number for herself. I walk back to my hotel and get message from her she want come short time with her friend now. I said I want one girl you can come and friend can wait at reception. She ask how much I will give her? I said 1 k. She call me cheap charlie I just laugh and text for her look at the time? She told me delete her number because she has boyfriend and was just testing me (some bola bola) I text her: poor boyfriend I pity him and said bye. L and go sleep.
Wake up in a afternoon meet a friend we go check perimeter bars most of the bars there going rate for barfine now between 2000-2500 (depends which bar) Single lady drink is 150 pesos doube 250. Later comeback hotel and start texting girls on date in asia, pinalove, tantan, wechat, facebook. Get some replys and offer girls 700-800 pesos for short time some of them accept to come but next day or later evening when I have plans go out already. Meet friend again we go check some fields bars most of them barfine is still 3 k but some of big bars like atlantis and dollhouse is asking 3. 5 k (if I remember good) single lady drinks 150 double is 250 most of the bars. My friend barfine some girl I comeback to high society later colllect some numbers and take girl for short time for 1 k she was good loooking and good at bed.
In a daytime go aqua beach club entry price for who is not staying at abc hotel still same 500 consumable (but food is not consumable just drinks I think so. Its was Monday so was completly dead no girls no costumers at all. I take contact from my friend of the girl he fucked last night he told me she was great and make good blowjob so I text her and she agreed to come for short time for 1 k. She was really pretty with no kids, slim and have great attitude also was good at bed. I give her 1 k and she ask for a trike so I give her 100 pesos more and she left. I get few messages from girls who refuse come before for 1 k and one for 800 pesos they want come now but I don't keen have girl at this moment so I told them I text back later.
I went out have some food and after take a nap, text the girls who want come before but didint get reply (seems they find costumers already or not need money anymore).
Later I go hiso again its Monday so no entry fee. Talk with some girls collect few numbers offer couple long times for 1500 pesos but get refused, after drink some san migel light and saw good looking girl make some conversation and offer 1. 5 k for long time she say 1. 5 its for short time! I said I don't like short times. We talk little bit more and finally she agree go long time for 1500 pesos I buy her a drink we stay hiso for a while and comeback hotel around 3 pm fuck and go sleep after. I wake up 11 morning and fuck girl again. She want stay more and sleep I told her I am going out give her 1500 pesos and she left. I fall sleep again for few hours.
Pokeris is no fool. Newbies should take note of his M. O. And prices he pays.
If you look too interested, the price stays up.
If you give the impression you can take it or leave it, price can go down.
Wake up on the afternoon have some we chat messages most from ladyboys (we chat have plenty of them) just ignore them. Saw one message from cute looking girl offered her 800 pesos for short time she refuse and want 1. 5 k I said for long time its ok but not for short time. She didint text me back anymore. Went out later have some dinner saw the girl I fuck last year with group of friends she recognise me and say Hi for me and offer short time I said 800 pesos like last time? She said yes. I said give me your number. I take her number (anyway I know I not call her because I very rare take same girl second time) also I like her friend (it was her cousin) and ask do she has ID because she look very young. She told me no, she is 16 but if I want I can take her to short time hotel they not ask ID I refuse and said I will take her after 2 years and walk away.
Later go high society again see the girl I like from previous night (but she refused go for 1 k last time she want 2 k for st) she saw me and smiles I come to her make some conversation and offer 1 k again she smiles at me and said no. I like that girl a lot so I said 1500 for short time and she agree we walk back hotel have a shower together she was looking great, no kids, 21 year old with nice body and good attitude we fuck for a while in diffrent positions after I take condom off and she suck till I cum I give her 1500 k she ask 100 pesos for trike back to hiso I said I am walking myself and you can walk also no trike she smiles and we comeback hiso together I collect her facebook and said bye for her.
Later I find other hiso girl for 1 k short time I get from her best blowjob I ever have at angeles before and also she was good at bed I pay her 1 k and she left.
6 days at AngelesGreat reporting! Keep them coming. With PHP being down 15 percent since my 2017 visit those 1 k ST romps are looking ridiculously cheap (equaling about 620 Thai Baht).
Wake up in a afternoon have already couple messages from date in asia and pinalove girls who accept to come short time for 700-800 pesos but they not the best lookers so decided go for girls I like because its my last night here. Text facebook friend and invite her to my hotel. The girl is 20 years old no kids, slim and cute face. She was wild at bed stay with me 2. 5 hour and make me cum 2 times I give her 1500 pesos and she was happy.
Later evening I text hiso girl contact and she agree to come short time for 1 k she was little bit shy at first but later was ok nice blowjob and average sex she make me cum and I let her go after 1 hour with 1 k.
Later I text other hiso contact and want meet her but she told me she is lives at manila and come just at angeles at night before hiso starts, I told her come my hotel at midnight for short time before hiso and she agree it for 1 k. The girl arrived before midnight she is 21 years old nice body, cute face. She told me she is student but when I ask her: who is more far away from angeles city manila or moon? She told me manila because moon you can see from here but manila can't. So its like always bola bola. Anyway she was good at bed and nice attitude she stay with me around 1. 5 hour after we go hiso together and I let her go. This was Wednesday night so it ladies night at hiso entry fee 100 pesos and 50 pesos for girls. Around 2 pm was many beautiful girls inside but I diidnt get any contacts or take anyone because 3 girls was enough for me for that day.
Wake up 11.35 morning just before check out time from hotel, have few messages on my phone and facebook already from girls who want repeat with me I just ignore them take quick shower and check out from my hotel leave 340 pesos tip for reception girl who was looking after me and give me same room like last time. Left my luggage at reception and still have 2 hours till I need to catch bus to manila. Walk to the fields have lunch with my friend he suggest go look perimeter bars, but I told I want quick fuck before I leave angeles and walk to raymond street last 2 blow row bars at my suprise futher bar have 7 girls and 2 of them was f. Uckable compare with all other girls who was bad looking.
I sit down girls was playing cards I ordered one san migel apple and invite the cutest looking girl sit next to me I said I finish beer and we go short time. She was 19 years old. I ask the girl if the short time still the same 1 k she said yes and long time is 2 k. Girl told me we can go room upstairs when I finish my beer, I go pay to at bar for short time and beer but the mamasan said can't go upstairs (she don't know me so maybe what's why) I am not often visiting blowrow bars anymore becasue quality is not same like was 3-4 years ago and cost was just 700 pesos before. Anyway I pay for short time and beer and we went with a girl at short time hotel just 10 metres away. Short time room cost was 350 pesos. The girl was fun and good at blowjob we fuck for a while I take a condom of and she start to suck hard till I cum into her mouth. I tip her 100 pesos and left.
Walk next to the laundry opposite tiger hotel collect my clothes and comeback hotel to pick up my bag, walk to sm mall and catch genesis bus back to manila airport it takes around 3 hours from angeles to airport because of traffic and also bus driver hit and scratch other car mirror so they was arrgument still traffic police or something like that come and sort it out.
My thoughs: I have good time at angeles but not so good like last times because this time I come not prepared with many contacts and not get girls for 600-800 pesos. Its still can find girls around for this ammount but when pay less the girls will put you on the end of the list and agree to come to you when they are desperate or just after few days or even weeks and don't have other options. If you live angeles and have time you can play here really cheap. I think 1 k its fair price for short time for good looking.
Girls and 1.5 k for long time. But its getting more hard to get good looking girls for less than that than was on my previuos visits. I still was getting many refuse even I am not old guy!. Waiting my fly to Jakarta will see how here will goes with local brothels!
The showering and disinfecting of the monger's cock when switching between girls in threesomes and foursomes is something the girls only do when bareback anal is involved and the monger gets a bit of brown stuff on his bell end. Especially where the monger goes bareback ATM and ATP from one girl to the next.Your grannies can't see the chocha brown shit on your bell head due to their failing eyesights otherwise they would be sending you to the shower.
Thanks for the personal insight.
My thoughs: I have good time at angeles but not so good like last times because this time I come not prepared with many contacts and not get girls for 600-800 pesos. Its still can find girls around for this ammount but when pay less the girls will put you on the end of the list and agree to come to you when they are desperate or just after few days or even weeks and don't have other options. If you live angeles and have time you can play here really cheap. I think 1 k its fair price for short time for good looking.
Thanks for taking the time to write your series of FR. I think you correctly identify that there is a trade-off between the time, effort, quality and price. In AC & Philippines there is something and someone for everyone. We come here and make our own experiences the way we want.
I wonder if on your trip to the airport you were still getting enough messages from girls that want to see you now for p600-p800. Usually messages always give me the motivation to return.
PL.
No actually it's a good idea to use your latex and change often wit Phils threesome. The only time I caught something in all my worldwide mongering was in Phils. Based on my recent experiences AC seems to now be the PH capital of smelly pussies. Yuk. To each their own, but IMO it's more fun to throw a smelly condom than having to sanitize your equipment.
Member #4698
07-13-18, 01:29
Based on my recent experiences AC seems to now be the PH capital of smelly pussies. Yuk. A smelly pussy ends it for me, period. I can't go forward. Fortunately smelly pussies are a very rare phenomenon for me. I don't know if it is just my luck or where I pick up my girls. I like young attractive girls and I am not too concerned with money, so I tend to look for girls in the better Go Go's, bars, and nightclubs. All I know is I haven't had a smelly one in a long, long time.
But I will always remember a pretty little smelly girl that I met in Phnom Penh in 2009 at Rose Bar. She was a very pretty, petite Khmer girl, and very stinky. On the night in question I was attracted to 2 girls in Rose. So after a pool game and a drink I barfined them both and we went upstairs. They had rooms at the time. I didn't realize anything was wrong at first. Girl #1 and I showered together and fooled around. Girl #1, was great. She possessed a tight little body, a pretty face, and had very friendly personality that aimed to please. Things were going great.
Girl #2 showered solo, so it was not until #2 joined us in bed that I knew something was not right and it was so obvious that girl #2's pussy stank, but neither girl #1 or I said anything about it. It was kind of surreal. Looking back, maybe I should of said something in a friendly, helpful way. I don't know. Anyway #1 and I were getting it on before #2 joined us in bed, so we continued with what we had started. I ended up shagging girl #1 twice, but I couldn't do anything with #2. She was pretty, but so smelly. She had saggy titty problems as well. Poor girl. I let her blow me just to be kind. LOL.
Anyway, this story has a happy ending. I really liked Girl #1, so a few nights later I went back to Rose bar and bought drinks for both girls, but only barfined girl #1. On that 2nd night we 69'd and we shagged 3 times before I called it quits. Now this happened back in the day, 2009 and things have changed a little bit since then like in AC. Anyway as we were leaving the room, I asked her how much she wanted and she said "up to you". So I gave her $20 (the standard rate back then) plus a $5 tip and she was happy with that. Girl #1 turned out to be a Phnom Penh repeat regular of mine for a couple of years until I lost track of her. I only saw girl # 2 in 2009. I was always friendly to her and bought her a drink when I was in Rose, but I never shagged her, not once, or even kissed her and of course, I never barfined her a 2nd time.
Based on my recent experiences AC seems to now be the PH capital of smelly pussies. Yuk. To each their own, but IMO it's more fun to throw a smelly condom than having to sanitize your equipment.Reminds of a very pretty young girl I barfined in Angeles. She had a very nice body as well. To boot she was a V girl. I was completely shagged out and wanted somebody pretty to sleep with. Both mamasan and the girl said no sex. So we went to dinner, barhopping, Disco etc. Everybody was jealous of me. Anyway back to the room she was open to fooling around. The moment I did the smell test her coochee stank like hell. After confronting she admitted that she is not a real V.
I told her she has some kind of infection and need to get treated. Gave her some money for a course of antibiotics and let her go.
It is always better to let them know if you smell something. Being young and naive they do not know the perils of sex with different people.
Blanquiceleste
07-13-18, 02:51
A smelly pussy ends it for me, period. I can't go forward. Absolutely. Year 2015. Angeles City. Fields Avenue. Shipwrecked. Back then, Kokomos still served decent food. I was there one evening for an early dinner and this gorgeous little chick at the door of Shipwrecked caught my eye. Soon enough she saw me as well and we kept smiling and gesturing. Once I finished my dinner I went over to the bar and sat down with Stella. A bottle of water for me and a drink for her. An interview. All ticks. Barfined her and took her back to LGH.
At the hotel as soon as her clothes came off the room was filled with that distinctive smelly pussy odour. I stopped her right there and asked her to leave with another 50 for trike. She did not say a word, probably knew why I sent her back. I did not bother going back to Shipwrecked to argue about the barfine because this was entirely my bad luck. I even went back to Shipwrecked another time on that trip and bought Stella a drink but did not barfine her. And she did not make a fuss.
I have found a few girls that don't know what the deal is with SA, anyone else get this act?
Based on my recent experiences AC seems to now be the PH capital of smelly pussies.Really? Bad luck I guess. On my recent visit I've had about ten girls and only one of them had a smelly pussy. Nevertheless the smell was bearable and she was the best fuck I had. But I refrained from DATY. YMMV apparently.
My thoughs: I have good time at angeles but not so good like last times because this time I come not prepared with many contacts and not get girls for 600-800 pesos. Its still can find girls around for this ammount but when pay less the girls will put you on the end of the list and agree to come to you when they are desperate or just after few days or even weeks and don't have other options. If you live angeles and have time you can play here really cheap. I think 1 k its fair price for short time for good looking girls and 1.5 k for long time. But its getting more hard to get good looking girls for less than that than was on my previuos visits. I still was getting many refuse even I am not old guy!. On my last visit about a month ago I was contacted by a really good looking girl on WeChat who wanted 2k for a ST. After long negotiations she accepted to come over for 1.5k. She didn't want to go lower and I certainly didn't want to go higher than that.
She looked exactly like her pictures, was very friendly and we had a nice session. Nothing special, just nice. Unfortunately she didn't want to give a BJ but she was pretty, 21 yo, no kids, with a great body and a very tight pussy that felt great, so I accepted that.
A few days later I wanted to repeat her so I texted her. She said 'OK but this time I want 2k'. I said 'no way, 1.5 k and this time I want a BJ'. She said 'No, I can get many guys who give me 2k'.
End of story and I believed her.
Blanquiceleste
07-13-18, 09:50
On my last visit about a month ago I was contacted by a really good looking girl on WeChat who wanted 2k for a ST. After long negotiations she accepted to come over for 1.5k. She didn't want to go lower and I certainly didn't want to go higher than that.
She looked exactly like her pictures, was very friendly and we had a nice session. Nothing special, just nice. Unfortunately she didn't want to give a BJ but she was pretty, 21 yo, no kids, with a great body and a very tight pussy that felt great, so I accepted that.
A few days later I wanted to repeat her so I texted her. She said 'OK but this time I want 2k'. I said 'no way, 1.5 k and this time I want a BJ'. She said 'No, I can get many guys who give me 2k'.
End of story and I believed her.Sort of a first time user's promotion price. Buy now and get 30% off.
Wicked Roger
07-13-18, 10:07
I have found a few girls that don't know what the deal is with SA, anyone else get this act?Best PM me FlyFF as easier to explain the nuances of the differences. Save the questions for the PMs and the FRs here for what you have been up to.
On my last visit about a month ago I was contacted by a really good looking girl on WeChat who wanted 2k for a ST. After long negotiations she accepted to come over for 1.5k. She didn't want to go lower and I certainly didn't want to go higher than that.
She looked exactly like her pictures, was very friendly and we had a nice session. Nothing special, just nice. Unfortunately she didn't want to give a BJ but she was pretty, 21 yo, no kids, with a great body and a very tight pussy that felt great, so I accepted that.
A few days later I wanted to repeat her so I texted her. She said 'OK but this time I want 2k'. I said 'no way, 1.5 k and this time I want a BJ'. She said 'No, I can get many guys who give me 2k'.
End of story and I believed her.I believe her also, she will comeback to you when don't have other options. 1. 5 k its still very good deal for most of the girls and I think its silly to pay 2 k for short time when its almost 1 week wages for minimum salary paid for normal workers at philippines.
I believe her also, she will comeback to you when don't have other options. 1. 5 k its still very good deal for most of the girls and I think its silly to pay 2 k for short time when its almost 1 week wages for minimum salary paid for normal workers at philippines.For a decent looking and performing girl I would pay 2 k. No problem. I would make sure I get off 2 times in the couple of hours.
Btw, I have seen this logic of using “minimum day’s or weekly salary” to compare to the price of poon in this forum and other forums. There is no such equation! Might as well compare it to the price of tea in China.
Really? Bad luck I guess. On my recent visit I've had about ten girls and only one of them had a smelly pussy. Nevertheless the smell was bearable and she was the best fuck I had. But I refrained from DATY. YMMV apparently.Once you get past the smell you got it licked!
Different tastes for different folks, some dudes would pay extra for that smelly and dine able pussy.
For a decent looking and performing girl I would pay 2 k. No problem. I would make sure I get off 2 times in the couple of hours.
Btw, I have seen this logic of using minimum days or weekly salary to compare to the price of poon in this forum and other forums. There is no such equation! Might as well compare it to the price of tea in China.If the all mongers at angeles start thinking like you soon will be no girls available for 1 k short time. You don't think so?
If the all mongers at angeles start thinking like you soon will be no girls available for 1 k short time. You don't think so?I don't agree with you. Where are the ST girls for 250? 350? The market is the market.
Please don't give me this "brotherhood among mongers" sticking together crap like they are looking out for each other. If that was the case then they would gladly pay dues for membership to the Mongers Brotherhood Union.
The market of buyers and sellers determine the value.
Mr Enternational
07-13-18, 19:34
For a decent looking and performing girl I would pay 2 k. No problem. I would make sure I get off 2 times in the couple of hours.
Btw, I have seen this logic of using minimum days or weekly salary to compare to the price of poon in this forum and other forums. There is no such equation! Might as well compare it to the price of tea in China.Definitely is such an equation. Half the people on earth have a pussy. It is not like it is a scarce product. Even if you are starving (hard up or super horny) there is no reason to pay 2000 for a plate of food when food is all around you and people are enjoying it everyday for way less. Now if you were talking about some rare alien pussy or aged Kobe beef then that may be a different story. But we are talking about normal ass pussies that are 10 pesos/dozen. The equation only goes out the window when people with more money than they know what to do with come into the room. But for a level-headed guy like me, it is just pussy and there is no reason to spend a bunch of money on it.
I could care less what the next guy is spending on it. I come in and make my own deals. Same way I was telling everyone about paying the bar fine after, but the Mongers Brotherhood Union says that is impossible. To each their own I guess. To me, guys that pay more make it possible for guys like me to pay less.
Definitely is such an equation. Half the people on earth have a pussy. It is not like it is a scarce product. Even if you are starving (hard up or super horny) there is no reason to pay 2000 for a plate of food when food is all around you and people are enjoying it everyday for way less. Now if you were talking about some rare alien pussy then that may be a different story. Other than that pussies are 10 pesos / dozen.GIGO.
Garbage in garbage out. 47% of the population have pussies. There are more dicks born that pussies. More dicks than pussy want sex at any given time. Not all pussies are for sale.
Don't tell me you pay for pussy at a price of a Jollibee see-1 meal? Currently 82 pesos.
Where is this pussy for 10 pesos / dozen?
I do agree with you and have stated before that the generous payers are subsidizing the low payers.
To each their own as it should be.
Mr Enternational
07-13-18, 19:53
GIGO.
Garbage in garbage out. 47% of the population have pussies. There are more dicks born that pussies. More dicks than pussy want sex at any given time. Not all pussies are for sale.
Don't tell me you pay for pussy at a price of a Jollibee see-1 meal? Currently 82 pesos.
Where is this pussy for 10 pesos / dozen?
I do agree with you and have stated before that the generous payers are subsidizing the low payers.Exactly! You said it. Not all pussies are for sale. Hence, there is FREE pussy all over the place. That makes my point of why there is no reason to spend a bunch of money for it. The last time I was in AC at the end of May I made a report about a chick that came over, paid 1000 pesos for my food (which included only 1 drink for herself), fucked me two times, and left the next morning. It is nature, not rocket science.
Member #4698
07-13-18, 20:33
Exactly! You said it. Not all pussies are for sale. Hence, there is FREE pussy all over the place. That makes my point of why there is no reason to spend a bunch of money for it. The last time I was in AC at the end of May I made a report about a chick that came over, paid 1000 pesos for my food (which included only 1 drink for herself), fucked me two times, and left the next morning. It is nature, not rocket science.Show us a picture of the girl so we know the kind of pussy you are talking about at these prices. Not all pussy is equal. While it is absolutely true that all that counts is if you are happy with what you are getting (and from your many posts I assume you are), but I and others might or might not be interested in your type of girl. Maybe we want younger & prettier girls. Maybe we are overpaying for similar quality girls. 555. Maybe our hours of activity are different. Its all just talk talk without the photos.
BTW, I know where to go in MNL, Jakarta, & BKK for cheaper girls than the ones you are paying for. I know the quality I'd generally find there too, so I am not interested. But if the object is to pay as little as possible, then we should set up a separate thread dedicated to really cheap sex. When I was in my 20's I shagged very sexy working girls in various Caribbean islands, San Jose, Cartagena, Bogota, and Rio all for free. Now I pay because A) I can afford to and B) I don't like waiting around for it. Aside from passing along what the standard rates are in various bars and clubs and out on the street, who cares what somebody is paying for a girl. It's a private transaction between two people.
Chocha Monger
07-13-18, 23:23
Definitely is such an equation. Half the people on earth have a pussy. It is not like it is a scarce product. Even if you are starving (hard up or super horny) there is no reason to pay 2000 for a plate of food when food is all around you and people are enjoying it everyday for way less. Now if you were talking about some rare alien pussy or aged Kobe beef then that may be a different story. But we are talking about normal ass pussies that are 10 pesos/dozen. The equation only goes out the window when people with more money than they know what to do with come into the room. But for a level-headed guy like me, it is just pussy and there is no reason to spend a bunch of money on it.
I could care less what the next guy is spending on it. I come in and make my own deals. Same way I was telling everyone about paying the bar fine after, but the Mongers Brotherhood Union says that is impossible. To each their own I guess. To me, guys that pay more make it possible for guys like me to pay less.There is no shortage of free or even on sale pussy in Angeles City and the surrounding areas. In fact, the supply of saleable pussy far exceeds the number of foreign mongers in the area at any given time. We can agree that supply is not the problem.
Half of the problem lies with mongers, their preferences, and perceptions; the other half of the problem lies with the girls, their demands, expectations, and perceptions. Both parties try to reach a mutually satisfying arrangement. The way a monger looks, interacts, fucks, and his level of hygiene all determine the minimum price the girls will take to tolerate a fuck from him. Girls may fuck young handsome clean fellas FREE, and buy them drinks. Meanwhile, the old man who looks like a baozi dumpling with cigarette breath, and nicotine stained fingers, is going to have to pay at least 3,000 pesos for a ST.
Mongers from the 3:3:3 category are accustomed to paying a minimum of 3,000 pesos and the girls are not going to agree to anything less. For a 3:3:3 monger, paying anything less than 3 K for ST would result in a loss of face. Hence, they do not break the 333 Rule by bargaining lower rates. They are not part of the Mongers Brotherhood Union. Although their habit of paying 3 K often infuriates the MBU, the 333 fellas take pride in paying more, and even put the hottest girls on Western Union remittances.
Definitely is such an equation. Half the people on earth have a pussy. It is not like it is a scarce product. ....I don't want 90% of the pussies out there, to fat, too old, to ugly.
Many of the pussies that I would want are not available, too married, too busy, not interested in foreigner.
One way or the other you will always pay for pussy. Like the old ad, you can pay now or you can pay later but the guy will always pay. That is just the way of the world.
The only question is how much you want to pay for any particular pussy at any particular time. Do you want to pay up front and be done with it or do you want to pay over a long time? Do you want to pay in cash or do you want to pay in emotional currency?
I don't agree with you. Where are the ST girls for 250? 350? The market is the market.
Please don't give me this "brotherhood among mongers" sticking together crap like they are looking out for each other. If that was the case then they would gladly pay dues for membership to the Mongers Brotherhood Union.
The market of buyers and sellers determine the value.Yes where are 300 pesos girls market. You can find them on santos street if you pass last blowrow bar and walk 200 - 300 metres more deep. But I don't call them girls anymore its some ugly drug addicts without teeth. I just said if people start paying more they increase price for everybody. Why girl would fuck with me for 1 k if somebody like you pay double for her? She will add me on the end of the list and come to me when monger like you not around.
Blanquiceleste
07-14-18, 03:39
But if the object is to pay as little as possible, then we should set up a separate thread dedicated to really cheap sex. Another important factor that determines price. How much time you are willing to wait to get free pussy. And perhaps another thread should be set up for "Cheap sex for long term resident mongers".
Anyone who is visiting any mongering destination for anything less than a month simply cannot be expected to play by the same rules. So more power to Mr E and others who can get a girl to pay for their meals and then shag them for free. But if I am there for a week and I want a girl I like, I will not let that deal fall through for 500 - 1000 pesos. My mental upper limit for ST in AC is 3000 pesos. I usually start opening discussions at 1500 and most of the times settle at 2000 - 2500. Maybe the same chick finishes up at my place and hops over to feed and fuck Mr E. Or vice-versa. I don't worry about that.
Mr Enternational
07-14-18, 05:25
Maybe the same chick finishes up at my place and hops over to feed and fuck Mr E. Or vice-versa. I don't worry about that.LOL. I wish I could remember who once wrote give them a shower and brush their teeth and they are as good as new.
Wicked Roger
07-14-18, 06:03
Yes where are 300 pesos girls market. You can find them on santos street if you pass last blowrow bar and walk 200 - 300 metres more deep. But I don't call them girls anymore its some ugly drug addicts without teeth. I just said if people start paying more they increase price for everybody. Why girl would fuck with me for 1 k if somebody like you pay double for her? She will add me on the end of the list and come to me when monger like you not around.Hen you can be with those you want to be with? Pay cheap get bad service. If you want 300 pesos then stop complaining about those who pay more for better quality. I have a mate who deliberately went low end price to see what he could get. Trust me it was not pretty but he got some gummy BBBJs LOL.
If you come across as a cheapie then the girls are not stupid. I know a few mongers who like to think as the girl is poor she will take whatever but his attitude, his demeanour, how he speak to her and treats her mean he can have blue balls all night as the girls all talk and know him to be cheap and nasty.
Being polite, nice and understanding that you could have paid many hundreds / thousand dollars to be here does not mean you screw a lady or 500 pesos as you think you are better / richer etc than them.
DG pays what he knows, I do and I have repeats and am asked to see their friends (as is DG and others). Sometimes it pays to be more 'generous' (ie $20 max which is a fraction of the taxi fare I pay to get to the airport in western countries!
YMMV.
Show us a picture of the girl so we know the kind of pussy you are talking about at these prices. Not all pussy is equal. While it is absolutely true that all that counts is if you are happy with what you are getting (and from your many posts I assume you are), but I and others might or might not be interested in your type of girl. Maybe we want younger & prettier girls. Maybe we are overpaying for similar quality girls. 555. Maybe our hours of activity are different. Its all just talk talk without the photos.
BTW, I know where to go in MNL, Jakarta, & BKK for cheaper girls than the ones you are paying for. I know the quality I'd generally find there too, so I am not interested. But if the object is to pay as little as possible, then we should set up a separate thread dedicated to really cheap sex. When I was in my 20's I shagged very sexy working girls in various Caribbean islands, San Jose, Cartagena, Bogota, and Rio all for free. Now I pay because A) I can afford to and B) I don't like waiting around for it. Aside from passing along what the standard rates are in various bars and clubs and out on the street, who cares what somebody is paying for a girl. It's a private transaction between two people.Very well said Natty.
Yes where are 300 pesos girls market. You can find them on santos street if you pass last blowrow bar and walk 200 - 300 metres more deep. But I don't call them girls anymore its some ugly drug addicts without teeth. I just said if people start paying more they increase price for everybody. Why girl would fuck with me for 1 k if somebody like you pay double for her? She will add me on the end of the list and come to me when monger like you not around.You can organize Mongers Brotherhood Union, local AC chapter to prevent future price increases and possibly rollback prices to 850. As union organizer you should be on top of the girls list.
You can organize Mongers Brotherhood Union, local AC chapter to prevent future price increases and possibly rollback prices to 850. As union organizer you should be on top of the girls list.I don't need that! I see you have briliant ideas and will go far!! All girls will be waitng you at angeles because you so generous!
Another important factor that determines price. How much time you are willing to wait to get free pussy. And perhaps another thread should be set up for "Cheap sex for long term resident mongers".
Anyone who is visiting any mongering destination for anything less than a month simply cannot be expected to play by the same rules. So more power to Mr E and others who can get a girl to pay for their meals and then shag them for free. But if I am there for a week and I want a girl I like, I will not let that deal fall through for 500 - 1000 pesos. My mental upper limit for ST in AC is 3000 pesos. I usually start opening discussions at 1500 and most of the times settle at 2000 - 2500. Maybe the same chick finishes up at my place and hops over to feed and fuck Mr E. Or vice-versa. I don't worry about that.IMHO we are all to blame. We mentally think compensating girls even if the girl offers free sex is our duty to get out of our guilt.
Multitude of free sex happens all over the world.
We start giving small amounts for shopping, food in the beginning and then go big hoping the girl will be on your beck and call.
This weakness gets the girl thinking why is she giving free sex to foreigner " Rich guy" when there is money to be made to better her life or to buy more drugs, support her local BF, support her family etc. Suddenly she wiser wondering why's he is wasting her body on local guys who has no money.
I have heard of girls telling me some give 5000 pesos as tip. Maybe it is a fib but the bottom line there are foreigners throwing money at them. For us it increases the cost of sex. So suddenly we are looking for cheap sex wherever we can find it. Supply has dried up and all we can find are skanks. Good girls are walking around us with I phones, samsung, fake Gucci bags, dressed in designer clothes who will stick to their inflated price even if she lives in a shack and does not have enough to eat. I have been and seen where and how they live. No arguments there.
There are seemingly no more naive girls who sell sex for low support.
Blanquiceleste
07-14-18, 18:52
There are seemingly no more naive girls who sell sex for low support.Nailed it. And there is nothing wrong about a girl smarting up. If I had a product which I was selling previously at $xx and I realize that there is demand for it, I will raise the price to $xxx.
It happens in the corporate world. Think about Turing Pharma. Capitalism 101.
Hen you can be with those you want to be with? Pay cheap get bad service. If you want 300 pesos then stop complaining about those who pay more for better quality. I have a mate who deliberately went low end price to see what he could get. Trust me it was not pretty but he got some gummy BBBJs LOL.
If you come across as a cheapie then the girls are not stupid. I know a few mongers who like to think as the girl is poor she will take whatever but his attitude, his demeanour, how he speak to her and treats her mean he can have blue balls all night as the girls all talk and know him to be cheap and nasty.
Being polite, nice and understanding that you could have paid many hundreds / thousand dollars to be here does not mean you screw a lady or 500 pesos as you think you are better / richer etc than them.
DG pays what he knows, I do and I have repeats and am asked to see their friends (as is DG and others). Sometimes it pays to be more 'generous' (ie $20 max which is a fraction of the taxi fare I pay to get to the airport in western countries!
YMMV.But you are not in western country Cheap is 500_700 pesos for a girl. 1 k is going rate for 80 percent of freelancers in angeles for short time so if someone pay 2-3 k for short time is silly. Fields Bars asking 3 k for short or long time but the girl gets just half of that! So why you should pay frelancer 2-3 k? Many girls I have for 1 k texting me for repeat and they are young and good looking, some of them is bar girls who comes see me on their day off or before work. If you can't get same girls cheaper its not means other can't also.
Blanquiceleste
07-14-18, 19:08
LOL. I wish I could remember who once wrote give them a shower and brush their teeth and they are as good as new.I think that was Goatscrot in the BKK thread. 5555. True story!
Blanquiceleste
07-14-18, 19:16
Many girls I have for 1 k texting me for repeat and they are young and good looking, some of them is bar girls who comes see me on their day off or before work. If you can't get same girls cheaper its not means other can't also.
Why girl would fuck with me for 1 k if somebody like you pay double for her? She will add me on the end of the list and come to me when monger like you not around.These two post sort of contradict each other. Tell us for sure, what is the truth here? Are you getting any coochee or no? If you are, stop complaining about people who pay more than you. If not, start paying more and see your fortunes change.
At least in the pussy market it is still working. It did not go well for the company in a country that is no bastion of capitalism.
Think about Turing Pharma. Capitalism 101.
These two post sort of contradict each other. Tell us for sure, what is the truth here? Are you getting any coochee or no? If you are, stop complaining about people who pay more than you. If not, start paying more and see your fortunes change.The problem lies in that him is broke and/or has very limited earning power. One of these guys who think poon is still at P500 and can live in Phil for $600 a month. That ship has sailed a long time ago. In my younger days a loaf of bread was 3 for $1. 00. Gasoline was. 39 a gallon. Yesterday has no bearing on prices today.
He doesn't understand value. I will venture to say his skills and talent are of low value and was equally compensated so. Thus needs to find value for cheap prices. That's not how the world works, even in 3rd world countries.
You get value for value. The law of supply and demand works. Even in Philippines.
I don't need that! I see you have briliant ideas and will go far!! All girls will be waitng you at angeles because you so generous!I thought you were concerned for the brothers? Why wouldn't you do this for the brotherhood? Your rant is just about yourself.
As I tell many people complaining about the increasing cost of things, your time is better spent increasing your earning power!
BTW, I do have many girls waiting for me at 1 k-2 k with MSOG.
Dg878,
Haha you are funny! I am not broke you don't know me and don't have any idea how much I spend on holidays! I just don't overpaid if I can get things cheaper I try to get it cheaper!
Haha you are funny!! I am not broke you don't know me and don't have any idea how much I spend on holidays! I just don't overpaid if I can get things cheaper I try to get it cheaper!!Then I stand corrected. Please add me to your will. I promise I won't use your estate to overpay for pussy and will continue your tradition.
Thanks in advance for not squandering my inheritance.
Mr Enternational
07-14-18, 22:46
The problem lies in that pokerass is broke and/or has very limited earning power. One of these guys who think poon is still at P500 and can live in Phil for $600 a month. That ship has sailed a long time ago. In my younger days a loaf of bread was 3 for $1. 00. Gasoline was. 39 a gallon. Yesterday has no bearing on prices today.That ship has not even left the port. One important marker I use is rent. My rent in Pattaya has stayed the same for 8 years. I am still paying the same to get from the airport to Pattaya as I was 8 years ago. So what reason is there to be paying 3 times as much for pussy as I did 8 years ago? I am not. I am still paying the same for freelancers while guys that insist on gogo bars are paying the increase.
Likewise, my exgirlfriend in Angeles was paying 2000 pesos a month to rent a house. After finding that out why would I pay 2 or 3000 pesos for a short time (or long time for that matter)? The rich foreigners come in throwing around money while the local guys are still fucking them for free. The pussy must not be that valuable. While I have money, it does not mean I am going to throw that much around for a fuck. And to state that someone who won't is broke is just ridiculous.
...............................it does not mean I am going to throw that much around for a fuck. And to state that someone who won't is broke , is just ridiculous.Yeh, the guy who is broke, is more likely to be the guy who throws his money around. The old saying "A fool and his money, soon part company". Ones financial status is not judged on how much money you pay for a fuck.
The girls soon forget you, once the money stops flowing. Whether it was small or large money. And whatever it was, you gave them, there will be no "thank you's" for past remittances, only for current ones, LOL.
Money for honey. Beats marriage and anything else on offer, LOL.
PedroMorales
07-15-18, 13:52
Quality is not determined by price. I like a good wine and I also like cider. Having to go to a black tie affair, I met my mates in the 5* hotel's bar before going in to the dinner. I ordered cider. They ordered us to sit down as standing was not allowed in that bar. A bar with expensive champagnes bottles on most tables. Not my kind of joint.
You get what you pay for. In that joint, you are buying BS. Nice to bring a Cindarella to, but who needs it.
You don't buy the hooker. You tent them and, like all other semi-skilled workers, mileage (varies. As does performance.
I gave up taking photos of them years ago and even remembering their names. The only reason I would ask the butcher his name is to get a better cut of meat.
Fancy restaurants are good to avoid some hassles but not attitudes. Of course, these women should be the same. They do have other dreams and priorities in life.
Chocha Monger
07-15-18, 18:30
But you are not in western country Cheap is 500_700 pesos for a girl. 1 k is going rate for 80 percent of freelancers in angeles for short time so if someone pay 2-3 k for short time is silly. Fields Bars asking 3 k for short or long time but the girl gets just half of that! So why you should pay frelancer 2-3 k? Many girls I have for 1 k texting me for repeat and they are young and good looking, some of them is bar girls who comes see me on their day off or before work. If you can't get same girls cheaper its not means other can't also.You are actually paying more than the local fellas do, but much less than the average foreigner. Free market capitalism appears to be at work if the majority of attractive young spinners are accepting your bids. The MBU and 333 Mafia want you to pay more for some strange reason. Whenever it comes to pussy, there are always some consumers campaigning against self-interest and demanding higher tariffs.
Yet, these same mongers rail against tourist tariffs slapped on them by taxi drivers, trike drivers, Viagra peddlers, and hotels. Should not the taxi and trike drivers have the right to charge mongers with the foreigner tariffs instead of using the meter or abiding by fixed fares charged to locals? There is no reason why pussy has an exclusive right to levy tariffs from 100-600 percent on foreign mongers.
The advocates for paying higher tariffs on pussy do not insist on higher airfares, higher hotel rates, and higher gratuities on restaurant bills. I doubt they happily pay the sticker price and dealer fees when buying a car, or accept the first quote from a car salesman without question. Apparently, the Filipina pussy-whip unleashed a hell of a lash on some fellas! The pussy cracks that whip and they leap through flaming hoops to pay whatever pussy commands.
PedroMorales
07-16-18, 09:04
The advocates for paying higher tariffs on pussy do not insist on higher airfares, higher hotel rates, and higher gratuities on restaurant bills. I doubt they happily pay the sticker price and dealer fees when buying a car, or accept the first quote from a car salesman without question. Apparently, the Filipina pussy-whip unleashed a hell of a lash on some fellas! The pussy cracks that whip and they leap through flaming hoops to pay whatever pussy commands.They will pay some tramp a huge tip (forget the tariff and boast here that they gave 500 PHP-12 ooo+ as a tip on top of an extortionate tourist rate but will not tip restaurant staff or others how actually work and do not just lie on their backs collecting tourist sperm.
NgPeter1688
07-19-18, 19:35
Wake up in a afternoon meet a friend we go check perimeter bars most of the bars there going rate for barfine now between 2000-2500 (depends which bar) Single lady drink is 150 pesos doube 250. Later comeback hotel and start texting girls on date in asia, pinalove, tantan, wechat, facebook. Get some replys and offer girls 700-800 pesos for short time some of them accept to come but next day or later evening when I have plans go out already. Meet friend again we go check some fields bars most of them barfine is still 3 k but some of big bars like atlantis and dollhouse is asking 3. 5 k (if I remember good) single lady drinks 150 double is 250 most of the bars. My friend barfine some girl I comeback to high society later colllect some numbers and take girl for short time for 1 k she was good loooking and good at bed.How you start to talk girl in those dating app, tan tan, PinaLove etc? Those girl most of them in the app are looking for serious love etc. Are you straight forward to ask them for sex with price even though their profile is seeking for real love? If yes. How many time you get positive reply or banned immediately?
Wake up in a afternoon meet a friend.... Later comeback hotel and start texting girls on date in asia, pinalove, tantan, wechat, facebook.Do you find TanTan good? It looks to be a Badoo / Hi5 clone. Does it have any benefits over these or countries where it more popular than the normal apps?
Thanks for the good reports.
Mr Enternational
07-20-18, 01:41
How you start to talk girl in those dating app, tan tan, PinaLove etc? Those girl most of them in the app are looking for serious love etc. Are you straight forward to ask them for sex with price even though their profile is seeking for real love? If yes. How many time you get positive reply or banned immediately?Have you ever talked to a woman before? Ask her what she is doing and see where it goes from there.
Do you find TanTan good? It looks to be a Badoo / Hi5 clone. Does it have any benefits over these or countries where it more popular than the normal apps?
Thanks for the good reports.Tantan is allright its chinese dating app, but date in asia and pinalove have more Selection of the girls. I was checking tantan app at Indonesia and Cambodia and they are using it here also, but I don't think its can beat most popular app like badoo, tinder, tagged or other payed ones with word (cupid). You never know on which dating app you can find girl, so the more diffrent ones you use the more change you have.
NgPeter1688
07-20-18, 09:35
Have you ever talked to a woman before? Ask her what she is doing and see where it goes from there.Yes, I did chat with them from pinalove, meetme, etc. Most of them replied that they are normal lady with a normal job sometimes. Did not say anything about money exchanged sex etc.
I can feel over 80% I chatted are normal lady (unless they are hiding), just few are bar girl or freelance. I did not try to ask directly for the 80% normal lady whether they are hiding from freelance.
Its great if you can share your strategy.
I say "Baa-Ram-Ewe" and they follow me like sheep. It works as a great ice breaker.
How you start to talk girl in those dating app, tan tan, PinaLove etc? Those girl most of them in the app are looking for serious love etc. Are you straight forward to ask them for sex with price even though their profile is seeking for real love? If yes. How many time you get positive reply or banned immediately?
Chocha Monger
07-20-18, 20:42
Its great if you can share your strategy.Walk into the bar. Look at the line-up. Point and fuck!
I can feel over 80% I chatted are normal lady (unless they are hiding), just few are bar girl or freelance. I did not try to ask directly for the 80% normal lady whether they are hiding from freelance.
Its great if you can share your strategy.Well a filipina is not going to say she's up for everything in your first conversation, maybe not at all in chat. I think you will find the numbers might be "80% of normal lady who like fucking."
When I RTFF there are many many many more stories of successful dating app hookups than there are failures. The "non-sex" girls will leave the apps because of all the fuckwits & one-handed keyboard warriors. The girls who tolerate them know that there are the guys like all of us whom will come through for them.
Cheers.
Albert9989
07-20-18, 22:54
Walk into the bar. Look at the line-up. Point and fuck!Great, that's a strategy! Should work for sure.
Mr Enternational
07-20-18, 23:06
Its great if you can share your strategy.My strategy is simple. I fuck chicks that are not hookers for free and I pay to fuck chicks that are hookers.
Walk into the bar. Look at the line-up. Point and fuck!Mr Monger, would you please share your strategy for determining which girls are prostitutes? When I go to bars over 80% are good girls, HRM students that have only been coming to the bar for 2 weeks. They say I am the first poriner that they have spoken to.
Do all girls have sex? All the ones I meet have a lot of ladies drinks and then say that they can't go with me.
How do I ask if the girl will have sex with me for $$.
😁 😉 😁 😉.
Yes, I did chat with them from pinalove, meetme, etc. Most of them replied that they are normal lady with a normal job sometimes. Did not say anything about money exchanged sex etc.
I can feel over 80% I chatted are normal lady (unless they are hiding), just few are bar girl or freelance. I did not try to ask directly for the 80% normal lady whether they are hiding from freelance.
Its great if you can share your strategy.Chocha and Mr. E are right: don't make this harder than it needs to be:
1. Be clear in your profile what you want. No need to be rude or offensive but if you are in town for a couple of weeks and want to meet new people, say so. Do not mention "girlfriend", "relationship" or similar unless that is actually what you want.
2. Stay on theme for your messages and don't give the impression that she may be able to turn the situation into a long term relationship. Again no need to be offensive but "New friends" is generally accepted to mean non monogamous. "Fun" means meet for sex.
3. If they say they are looking for a long relationship, ask of she is happy with something less serious until Mr. Right appears. Most will be fine with this.
4. Don't be afraid to ask her pretty direct questions. Girls receive hundreds of responses a day. Everything from "You're beautiful, marry me" to "Send me a video of you taking a dump on the shitter. " Nothing you ask will be a surprise to her.
Asking if she can meet you at your hotel, stay the night or is on birth control are perfectly acceptable and pretty indicative of what you want. Many have used some graphic questions to speed up the process and scare away girls that may not be happy sealing the deal.
5. Don't start too early with months of correspondence before you arrive. This sends a message that you will put in a lot of effort and may be looking for a girl friend or wife. Much has been written in the Penpals and Chatrooms forum about lead time so have a read there. Personally, I don't contact any one until I'm in country. "Can you come to my hotel after work?" sends a much more accurate message than "Let's chat online until I arrive next month. ".
I think some of these guys should bring their Mum along with them.
And mum might get lucky too, and find a nice trike driver for a modest price.
Chocha Monger
07-21-18, 02:02
Mr Monger, would you please share your strategy for determining which girls are prostitutes? When I go to bars over 80% are good girls, HRM students that have only been coming to the bar for 2 weeks. They say I am the first poriner that they have spoken to.Simply go to the right bar. If you are in a go-go bar, sexy-lady KTV bar, or freelance hooker bar, 100% of the girls are tramps even the 80% who are HRM students and keep asking you to buy them many ladies' drinks.
Do all girls have sex? All the ones I meet have a lot of ladies drinks and then say that they can't go with me.Yes. All the girls have sex but not all will have sex with you. Maybe she no like you, she on her period, she love her trike driver boyfriend too much, or she is lesbian and no like hard cocky in her poosay.
How do I ask if the girl will have sex with me for $$.Never ask the girl if she will sex with you for money. What you think? She some kind of prostitute? Don't be so rude! Tell her she very sexy woman and you "want to try her. " Even you don't know what that means, she know what you mean.
Chocha Monger
07-21-18, 05:19
I think some of these guys should bring their Mum along with them.
And mum might get lucky too, and find a nice trike driver for a modest price.Funny you should say that, as I sometimes run into Daddy and Son mongering teams. I have even met Granddaddy, Daddy and Son monger teams, though they are not as common. The problem is usually along similar lines. The mean girls back in the homeland rejected Junior Monger's amorous attentions in some extremely brutal and embarrassing ways, causing him to lose his nerve to approach women permanently. Junior Monger is in his late 20's or 30's, and still a virgin with no sign of recovering from his trauma induced phobia of women. He has joined the ranks of the involuntary celibate, and his progenitors are mortified that he will become a 40-year-old virgin.
Granddaddy Monger expresses his dismay at the prospect of his grandson becoming a dead branch on the family tree. He feels his time running out and blames Daddy Monger for not raising the boy to be a real man. Granddaddy Monger usually feels more passionate about his son's failures as a father after several drinks too many and becoming a bit of an abusive drunk. He threatens to disinherit his son and grandson if they do not get the virgin shine off Junior's knob end.
Daddy Monger decides to take Junior to Angeles City and have the bar girls sort him out, hoping it will help his son get right and shut Granddaddy up for good. Once in the bar, he tells Mammasan his problem and she recommends a girl or two to unbox Junior's package back in the room. The girls assigned with the deflowering of Junior are the most seasoned veterans in the bar, and qualified to answer his questions like, "Is it in the right hole?" and "Does everyone cum after three pumps?" LOL!
Mr Monger, would you please share your strategy for determining which girls are prostitutes?
😁 😉 😁 😉.Simply go to the right bar...Chocha, thanks but I thought the emojis at the end of my post would have shown that that I was being sarcastic and only joking. Like Sxxxx, I was amused that some of the recent posters needed their hand to be held so much!!
Cheers.
I think some of these guys should bring their Mum along with them.
And mum might get lucky too, and find a nice trike driver for a modest price.
NgPeter1688
07-22-18, 10:23
Chocha and Mr. E are right: don't make this harder than it needs to be:
1. Be clear in your profile what you want. No need to be rude or offensive but if you are in town for a couple of weeks and want to meet new people, say so. Do not mention "girlfriend", "relationship" or similar unless that is actually what you want.
2. Stay on theme for your messages and don't give the impression that she may be able to turn the situation into a long term relationship. Again no need to be offensive but "New friends" is generally accepted to mean non monogamous. "Fun" means meet for sex.
3. If they say they are looking for a long relationship, ask of she is happy with something less serious until Mr. Right appears. Most will be fine with this.
4. Don't be afraid to ask her pretty direct questions. Girls receive hundreds of responses a day. Everything from "You're beautiful, marry me" to "Send me a video of you taking a dump on the shitter. " Nothing you ask will be a surprise to her..Your advise is helpful. I think I am able to manage it now without hesitation in checking the girl in those dating app. Actually, I got few girl make a positive reply in my direction.
I've been to Angeles twice and stayed in a couple of nice places near Fields. Someone suggested I should look into Kandi condos for a longer term (one month) rental.
Has anyone had experience with that property? Thanks.
Mr Enternational
07-23-18, 06:42
I've been to Angeles twice and stayed in a couple of nice places near Fields. Someone suggested I should look into Kandi condos for a longer term (one month) rental.
Has anyone had experience with that property? Thanks.I have a couple of buddies that stay there that love it. I read the reviews before and the main problem people had was that if you rent longer term, you need to buy extra sheets and towels so that when you wash one set you will have another set to use.
ManonsanBoy
07-24-18, 22:23
Daddy Monger decides to take Junior to Angeles City and have the bar girls sort him out, hoping it will help his son get right and shut Granddaddy up for good. Once in the bar, he tells Mammasan his problem and she recommends a girl or two to unbox Junior's package back in the room. The girls assigned with the deflowering of Junior are the most seasoned veterans in the bar, and qualified to answer his questions like, "Is it in the right hole?" and "Does everyone cum after three pumps?" LOL!On the flight over from Hong Kong to Clark in 2008, I chatted with a gorky expat chap just out of high school. He was painfully shy and had booked a room at the Lewis Grand. He wanted tips on how to "score". Yes, virgin. Anyway, I took pity on him and showed him Pony Tails, Atlantis and a few perimeter bars. He could not bear to look at the girl as I negotiated at Pony Tails for him. I insisted LT, multiple shots etc, explaining the situation. She wanted to bring her friend. Both look around 18. Off he went with both. Saw him with the loves of his life the next day at the hotel pool. They joined me and the giggling girls were merciless in their recounting of what happened. He came in the shower as they sandwiched him and he lasted 10 seconds as they BJ him together. Basically came twice before he got to penetrate. He "had" both 3 times each through the night bareback (I often wonder whether he left his genetic footprint there). The girls said they were going to tag him with a string of their friends. At breakfast over the 4 days, new stud was with 2 different girls each time. He was still awkward. The hotel staff would always smile and make comments. At least it was a young couple (+1). Basically, he said he paid each girl 2000 each for 24 hours and indeed they did a relay on him. He was staying a week and I left after 4 days. Never saw him again.
BrainDrain
07-25-18, 00:20
I've been to Angeles twice and stayed in a couple of nice places near Fields. Someone suggested I should look into Kandi condos for a longer term (one month) rental.
Has anyone had experience with that property? Thanks.The times I've tried to book in, the place has had a three month waiting list.
If you are planning to be in town for a month then an apartment is the way to go. The extra space provides a better experience.
On the flight over from Hong Kong to Clark in 2008, I chatted with a gorky expat chap just out of high school. He was painfully shy and had booked a room at the Lewis Grand. He wanted tips on how to "score". Yes, virgin. Anyway, I took pity on him and showed him Pony Tails, Atlantis and a few perimeter bars.Not Angeles but I once lived in a oil / mining town with an expat population large enough to support 3 or 4 international schools. Every June / July it would empty of families as everyone went home or on holidays for the long mid year break. One particular year one family could not return home due to both parents' work commitments. This left one solitary 17 yo kid alone in town. He would be seen moping around the shopping malls or fast food joints, bored senseless and missing his friends who were ribbing him with stories of all the fun they were having back home. This went on for a couple of weeks, with him getting more and more pissed off at being left behind. Then one night he suddenly popped up at one of the bars drinking Coke with one of the girls snuggled up beside him, only now he was grinning from ear to ear. Over the rest of the holiday, his smile just got bigger and bigger as he was seen with a succession of girls that were obviously keeping him entertained. Suddenly his friends' stories of their holiday fun paled into insignificance as he proudly told them how he was spending his time off.
On another occasion a group of students suddenly and mysteriously changed schools. Apparently students pimping out their nannies is not good for the reputation of a prestigious International School.
And:
This reminds me of a story where we had a young guy arrive - 20 something, tall, blond, surfer dude. We took him out and needless to say the girls were very very receptive. When the old hands spread the story that he was a virgin as his fianc had died of cancer before the wedding they were positively frothing at the mouth. The guy never know what was happening nor what hit him as the entire bar wanted to take him out back and solve his perceived problem. For some reason he was "sick" and never made it to work the next day. Lucky bastard.
I just returned from a 3-day trip to AC. Maybe I have nowhere to go. I could swear the number of bars is decreasing, but they keep building more and more hotels.
I did not barfine a single girl. I don't go for worse service with a higher price tag because that's what you get these days. I hope I'm wrong about this, for everyone's sake.
This happened several years ago. I was at Sky Trax late one night with a girl. Later, her mamasan enters with three other girls and a white dude. They sit at another table. They order a round of drinks. And I did not see this coming. The waitress brings their bill to me. I tell the waitress, "I did not order those drinks. So take the fucking bill and shove it up your gaping A-hole!" Actually, I did not say that but I probably should have. I ditch the girl and go back to the hotel alone. I know she told the waitress that I will be paying for the drinks. A few years later, I'm talking to the same mamasan. Now, she's the one badmouthing the girl saying she borrowed 1,500 pesos from her and split town without paying her back. So if I get screwed, then it's OK. But if she gets screwed, then it's not OK. Fucking Filipinos.
Before when the drinks were 85 or 95 pesos, I would just give the waitress 100 pesos. But now, they are 115 or 125 and it really sucks. When you give 200 pesos, the waitress tries to keep all of it. Like they would ever give a 75 peso tip for a 125 peso bill. I've seen Filipinos give a 2 peso tip on a 1,000 peso bill at a restaurant. They always take but they never give. Fucking Filipinos.
At a bar in Manila, the waitress brings back the change minus 10 pesos. She tells me the cashier did not have 10 pesos. WTF. Then she goes, "10 pesos my tip. " So she took the 10 pesos because she thought I would not tip her. I was going to tip her 20 pesos. But what can I say.
Do not eat at Salvatore's Italian restaurant, even if you can locate it. It took me three meals there to realize that they had been overcharging me each time. It's subtle because they overcharged me around 60 70 pesos each time. If you saw the interior of the restaurant, you'the think that they have large rats in the kitchen. Surprisingly, the food wasn't all that bad.
This was the last straw. For my departure, the fucking Manila cab driver dropped me off at the end of the arrivals ramp at Terminal 1. He didn't take the access road to Terminal 1 saying there was too much traffic. Instead, he took the access road to Terminal 2 and dropped me off in a no parking area behind the barricades at the end of Terminal 1 Arrivals. Fucked up airport. Worst international airport ever. Actually, that award goes to Clark Airport because the staff don't even make any attempt to hide their corruption. Anyway, I had to enter the arrival floor through security check. Take the elevator to the departure floor. I exit the elevator. I can see the check-in counters from where I'm standing. But the security guard tells me that is an exit from the departure area to the Jollibee area, whatever that means. So I had to exit the building when I was already inside. Show my e-ticket to the security guard again, go through security check again when I had already done that on the floor below. All because the fucking cab driver refused to drive to the departures ramp. I should not have paid the motherfucker. But again what can I say. Fucking Filipinos.
If you don't believe me, then watch the Australia Philippines basketbrawl on Youtube. You will be shocked. These are arrogantly taking selfies after gang beating a helpless Aussie player. All pride but no shame whatsoever.
Goodbye AC. I will forget you.
Next trip will be my maiden voyage to Pattaya. The fucking Filipinos don't deserve my money.
The school probably did not care but the other male members of the community did about the smaller slices of pie and grubby little fingers in their pie. LOL
On another occasion a group of students suddenly and mysteriously changed schools. Apparently students pimping out their nannies is not good for the reputation of a prestigious International School.
Wicked Roger
07-25-18, 18:56
Funny you should say that, as I sometimes run into Daddy and Son mongering teams. I have even met Granddaddy, Daddy and Son monger teams, though they are not as common. LOL!I am (believe or not) a god parent to a few of my friend's children (all boys as for some other reason they don't want me to be that for their daughters! Most have said I was chosen not only for my deep religious beliefs but also so that I can take the god son to a suitable place when 16 and have his cherry taken or at least make sure he know what to with his todger properly. This would mean Daddy comes along to make sure his son is cared for and protected from all those naughty ladies.
That is always an interesting tag team as you say CM. Has been done more are promised but sometimes Momma Bear is not so keen when I mention the Philippines as his birthday present LOL.
I just returned from a 3-day trip to AC. ..................................Thanks for your frank report titled "Fucking Philippines". Yes it is true, there are negatives in the Philippines. Always have been, always will be.
For sure its losing its value. Honesty, service etc sliding down, down.
But that's true globally, wherever you go. Got to make the best of it, I'm afraid.
BrainDrain
07-25-18, 23:02
I just returned from a 3-day trip to AC. Maybe I have nowhere to go. I could swear the number of bars is decreasing, but they keep building more and more hotels......./snip
Goodbye AC. I will forget you.
Next trip will be my maiden voyage to Pattaya. The fucking Filipinos don't deserve my money.Sounds like you had a rough trip. Absolutely I know that these guys run a one way system. It's OK for them to ask you to leave a hotel room early but to stay 30 minutes past your allotted check out time, well "that's extra Sir".
For the most past I just live with that kind of attitude here and expect it. Now that I'm expecting it I can control for it and dot get ripped off as often.
I eat at Salvatore's quite a few times, not too hard too find considering it is in the same block on the same road as ABC. I like the food, I'll check the bill more closely.
Be safe in Thailand.
Naked Gunz
07-26-18, 02:41
Goodbye AC. I will forget you. Next trip will be my maiden voyage to Pattaya. The fucking Filipinos don't deserve my money.I mean, is it me, or are you getting high blood pressure over a few pesos? Am well into my fifties, and gladly pay meager monger taxes for the ability to bang twenty-somethings. Sure, I get decent service in the USA, at well above the cost of the Phils though. The table drinks incident was fucked up sure, but the other stuff sounds kinda normal in the 3rd world. You're seen as rich. You were there three days, so they don't know you. I'm sure daily expats establish a rapport and aren't getting this much shit. Sure Patts is more organized, but you better better keep eye on your drink tab there too.
Sounds like you had a rough trip. Absolutely I know that these guys run a one way system. It's OK for them to ask you to leave a hotel room early but to stay 30 minutes past your allotted check out time, well "that's extra Sir".
For the most past I just live with that kind of attitude here and expect it. Now that I'm expecting it I can control for it and dot get ripped off as often.
I eat at Salvatore's quite a few times, not too hard too find considering it is in the same block on the same road as ABC. I like the food, I'll check the bill more closely.
Be safe in Thailand.BrainDrain,
FYI, Salvatore's Italian restaurant is not near ABC Hotel. It is located on Fields Avenue near Phillies Sports Bar. I believe Roadhouse and Angel Witch Bars at ground level and Salvatore's on the second floor. Like I said, it is hard to locate. (Smiley Face. Special characters do not work in preview.) No one bothers to look up because you have Roadhouse and Angel Witch door girls in pretty dresses at ground level. But why am I advertising Salvatore's? I guess I am advising people to avoid it.
You may be referring to Al Bacio Italian restaurant, which is located on the same block as ABC Hotel. I have seen it from the outside but have never eaten there. It looked like an upscale restaurant to me so I'm thinking they do not have rats in the kitchen.
Chocha Monger
07-26-18, 09:07
Thanks for your frank report titled "Fucking Philippines". Yes it is true, there are negatives in the Philippines. Always have been, always will be.
For sure its losing its value. Honesty, service etc sliding down, down.
But that's true globally, wherever you go. Got to make the best of it, I'm afraid.Correct, Mr. Sxxxx! You cum and go! Expect to be ripped during your time in this Sperm Disposal Dump. Assume everything the natives tell you is a lie, and you will do just fine. Do not become too attached to the rides, realize most will not deliver the thrill promised. Waste sperm tipping fees are going up and disposal services are going down. Less cum-dumpster contractors are willing to work in the business, so there are fewer options to drop your loads. You make do with what is available or cry into your pint of Guinness.
Wow, you had a rough trip. Were you wearing a Mario baseball with a letter "L" instead of "M"? Really, the only place I had an establishment add things to my bill without my consent was in Eastern Europe. I actually don't run a tab after several problems in NYC years ago. I settle the bill on the spot. At WG bars, most waitresses will look to me to confirm or deny a drink ordered by a girl and I ask what the price is. It catches those double drinks and stuff on the spot. I did get some rude remarks in Margaret River when I did that at a posh restaurant though about some of the specials the waiter was rattling off. But hey, I know some waiters make a lot of money but I am still the one paying. Don't think you were under any obligation to pay as you did not order nor authorize.
This happened several years ago. I was at Sky Trax late one night with a girl. Later, her mamasan enters with three other girls and a white dude. They sit at another table. They order a round of drinks. And I did not see this coming. The waitress brings their bill to me.Carry smaller bills. In the old days, I would always have the front desk / cashier or FX exchange give me small bills. At most business hotels in the old days, they would literally bring one fax to me every 10 minutes instead of doing it at once. Each time, the delivery boy will expect a tip.
Before when the drinks were 85 or 95 pesos, I would just give the waitress 100 pesos. But now, they are 115 or 125 and it really sucks.
At a bar in Manila, the waitress brings back the change minus 10 pesos. She tells me the cashier did not have 10 pesos. WTF. Then she goes, "10 pesos my tip. " So she took the 10 pesos because she thought I would not tip her. I was going to tip her 20 pesos. But what can I say.That actually happens a lot, especially to women friends I know. Last time for me was in Barcelona. A cabby offered a great price to the airport so I cancelled the hotel car and took his offer. He dropped me off at the first door. I told the guy to get closer to the middle but he refused. He said I had to pay extra. Typical. I was in a rush so hoofed it.
This was the last straw. For my departure, the fucking Manila cab driver dropped me off at the end of the arrivals ramp at Terminal 1.
Goodbye AC. I will forget you.
Next trip will be my maiden voyage to Pattaya. The fucking Filipinos don't deserve my money.Sounds like you should stay closer to home. They don't deserve your money.
Chocha Monger
07-26-18, 19:58
BrainDrain,
FYI, Salvatore's Italian restaurant is not near ABC Hotel. It is located on Fields Avenue near Phillies Sports Bar. I believe Roadhouse and Angel Witch Bars at ground level and Salvatore's on the second floor. Like I said, it is hard to locate. (Smiley Face. Special characters do not work in preview.) No one bothers to look up because you have Roadhouse and Angel Witch door girls in pretty dresses at ground level. But why am I advertising Salvatore's? I guess I am advising people to avoid it.
You may be referring to Al Bacio Italian restaurant, which is located on the same block as ABC Hotel. I have seen it from the outside but have never eaten there. It looked like an upscale restaurant to me so I'm thinking they do not have rats in the kitchen.Does Salvatore's serve rat meatballs with spaghettis? Rat stew is a popular local dish. So if they served you rat meat in their dishes, it was probably legal.
............................You make do with what is available or cry into your pint of Guinness.Thats it, especially for us who have known better times. More crying and more Guinness nowadays, I'm afraid, LOL.
Still the best destination for me nowadays. Doesn't say much for the other places, does it.
Cheers, tears, and beers, but fewer exciting encounters, me fears!
Eszpresszo
07-26-18, 22:08
Thats it, especially for us who have known better times. More crying and more Guinness nowadays, I'm afraid, LOL.
Still the best destination for me nowadays. Doesn't say much for the other places, does it.
Cheers, tears, and beers, but fewer exciting encounters, me fears!Doesn't sound like you have visited many other places. A lot of us have fun when we try different places instead of going to the same place over and and expecting to repeat all the thrills of your earlier adventures. It sounds like you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
Chocha Monger
07-27-18, 00:36
Thats it, especially for us who have known better times. More crying and more Guinness nowadays, I'm afraid, LOL.
Still the best destination for me nowadays. Doesn't say much for the other places, does it.
Cheers, tears, and beers, but fewer exciting encounters, me fears!Yeah, I contacted St. James Gate brewery in Dublin with a proposal to brew a special limited release batch called Guinness Extra Bitter. The extra bitterness is the result of over hopping the stout. When mongers cry into their Guinness Extra Bitter, the warm salty tears blend into the frothy head cutting the sharpness of the bitter hops into a smooth drinking stout with chocolate undertones of roasted cacao beans and dark malt.
Of course, we would rather not offend Irish Catholics. Hence, no reference to the true purpose of this special brew shall appear in the marketing of this fine drink. However, you already know the origins of this new recipe from brew master CM. As with all of fine products, please consume in moderation. Overconsumption of pints may result in double bareback blowjobs and suckled nips, as experienced by The Apprentice on Burgos St. LOL!
......................... When mongers cry into their Guinness Extra Bitter, the warm salty tears blend into the frothy head cutting the sharpness of the bitter hops into a smooth drinking stout with chocolate undertones of roasted cacao beans and dark malt....................................Oooh, can't wait for that one, especially the "chocolate undertones".
Fun, fun, its (whoring touring) got to be fun or forget it. Thanks for your contribution.
I landed in NAIA T1 Monday night and took white taxi to Pasay hotel via the skyway. There was no traffic to speak off. The white taxi wanted 300 for the non metered ride. After I unloaded by bags I told him 200 and that's was a good rate for him. He grin and too it.
The next morning I had a former AC girl come over for 2 pops. Gladly paid her 2 k. When I have first met her she was a little chubby but very firm with the's. Now she has lost weight and has a very firm hour glass body. Great holding her thin waist as she CG me to the finish line. As I said twice!
Later around 2:00 I took Grab taxi to T3 arrivals bay 14 for Genesis bus ride to Angeles City SM City Clark mall. Grab was 150 pesos and Genesis was 350. BTW, hotel checkout was at noon and I asked for the latest complimentary checkout time and they cheerfully responded 2:00 Sir xx.
The bus took 3 and half hours, which I napped most of the way. Once I got to SM Clark I got Grab car within 10 minutes and was at my hotel in 5. My cell phone started getting texts. In the past 3 days in AC I have seen 4 previous girls and new 2 new referrals from them. I haven't stepped into a bar yet. Today I have over committed to 4 girls, 2 previous and 2 new referrals. 3 wants to come over around 7:30 pm! One wants day time action. Typical AC problems for me! I have paid 1. 5 to 2 k.
A few words about Salvatore's restaurant. A few years ago I would eat there once or twice on a weekly basis. They had a great steak for 600 pesos. Some of my guests would have the carbonara or other items. Overall the food was good, excellent for AC. There is a steep stairway to climb to the second floor. The place was mostly carpeted if I remembered correctly. The kitchen is located within eye site of the seating areas. My point is if there are rats then they certainly wouldn't be confined to the kitchen. I doubt they have them any more than else where. I imagine the place has it's where and tear.
I jeepney to checkpoint and walked to Cebuana to pick up my pesos. Same kid beggars except they are a little older and taller. The Indian women still have the same size sleeping babies in their arms. I still wonder how they keep them sleeping and small. Sometimes I wonder if they drug them and borrow babies for the begging! The beggars were not a problem. Just keep walking.
That's it for now. No problems encountered.
Mr Enternational
07-27-18, 03:49
The Indian women still have the same size sleeping babies in their arms. I still wonder how they keep them sleeping and small. Sometimes I wonder if they drug them and borrow babies for the begging! Yes they borrow the babies. That is a scam in several countries. Where is Salvatore's located? Seems I have seen it before.
BrainDrain
07-27-18, 06:39
BrainDrain,
FYI, Salvatore's Italian restaurant is not near ABC Hotel. It is located on Fields Avenue near Phillies Sports Bar. I believe Roadhouse and Angel Witch Bars at ground level and Salvatore's on the second floor. Like I said, it is hard to locate. (Smiley Face. Special characters do not work in preview.) No one bothers to look up because you have Roadhouse and Angel Witch door girls in pretty dresses at ground level. But why am I advertising Salvatore's? I guess I am advising people to avoid it.
You may be referring to Al Bacio Italian restaurant, which is located on the same block as ABC Hotel. I have seen it from the outside but have never eaten there. It looked like an upscale restaurant to me so I'm thinking they do not have rats in the kitchen.You are right, I am mistaken. Al Bacio is my go to restaurant so I was confused. I don't look at the names, just know the places.
Same kid beggars except they are a little older and taller. The Indian women still have the same size sleeping babies in their arms. I still wonder how they keep them sleeping and small. Sometimes I wonder if they drug them and borrow babies for the begging! The beggars were not a problem. Just keep walking.
Maybe it was just a coincidence but last time when I was in AC, about a month ago, there were considerably less women with babies or small children walking around and begging than there used to be.
Mr Enternational
07-27-18, 07:44
Maybe it was just a coincidence but last time when I was in AC, about a month ago, there were considerably less women with babies or small children walking around and begging than there used to be.They got to take vacation sometime too!
Maybe it was just a coincidence but last time when I was in AC, about a month ago, there were considerably less women with babies or small children walking around and begging than there used to be.I am not sure which ones you are referring to. There is the old leather skin granny without any babies in front is Southstar and 7-11 that pokes you as you go by, then follows you and keeps pestering you. Then there 2-3 Indians carrying babies begging you. These have been the same ones for about the last 3-5 years. They usually come out after 3 pm.
Then there is the really dark Pygmy looking family with kids sleeping on cardboard near the restaurant pool table place.
I don't know about the others.
Yes they borrow the babies. That is a scam in several countries. Where is Salvatore's located? Seems I have seen it before.It is located between the two bars mentioned earlier. I have never noticed the bars even tho the dancers outside do distract you. Salvatore's has a full page ad in Blue Pages (book) monthly. The ad is atrocious in a dark color with small print. Really can't make it out. They are known for their pizzas too.
SouthEaster
07-27-18, 23:37
I know if I go back far enough I will find it but searching has me coming up short. After many years I will be using NAIA next week on my way to AC. Anybody familiar with the location of the Genesis bus at T1? I arrive 9:30 am so heading straight to AC, no stopping in Manila.
SE.
AC update.
The weather has been great. 80's F. Little rain. Plenty of poon. Last night a repeater brought over her friend. I rotated them between the cr for individual action. The friend was 5 feet tall and slim. Tight tight and juicy wet V. I finished with her twice. She wants to come back for more on Tuesday. Had the repeat again this morning.
Have a new referral coming tonight. Haven't stepped foot in to a bar yet!
Btw, I have been using Grab to everywhere. Except once after I got my cash from Cebuana, I used the first trike up in rotation across the street at Southstar.
I am in deep Sxxx. I actually do not like! ITMFITP.
AC update.
The weather has been great. 80's F. Little rain. Plenty of poon. Last night a repeater brought over her friend. I rotated them between the cr for individual action. The friend was 5 feet tall and slim. Tight tight and juicy wet V. I finished with her twice. She wants to come back for more on Tuesday. Had the repeat again this morning.
Have a new referral coming tonight. Haven't stepped foot in to a bar yet!
Btw, I have been using Grab to everywhere. Except once after I got my cash from Cebuana, I used the first trike up in rotation across the street at Southstar..
I am not sure which ones you are referring to.I was referring to women with babies / children only. There were always more of them than the ones you mention.
Anybody familiar with the location of the Genesis bus at T1? Google is your friend... (and therefore knows all about you).
"Here are the exact locations of the pick-up and drop-off spots of P2 P buses and Manila. NOTE that the NAIA 2 and NAIA 1 stops are for DROP-OFF ONLY. You can't board the bus from there. If you're coming from NAIA Terminals 1, 2, or 4, you will have to take a cab or Uber to Terminal 3 (Bay 14). ".
Alternatively you can take the free shuttle bus to T3 of course.
www.thepoortraveler.net/2017/12/p2p-bus-naia-clark-airport-schedule
Always Randy
07-28-18, 23:04
I know if I go back far enough I will find it but searching has me coming up short. After many years I will be using NAIA next week on my way to AC. Anybody familiar with the location of the Genesis bus at T1? I arrive 9:30 am so heading straight to AC, no stopping in Manila.
SE.You didn't even have to search back all that far. It was on the same page 7 posts before yours. DG8787 just gave all the details to the Genesis bus in his trip report.
Well. Late FR because I already wrote my FR some weeks ago, and when I posted, the website said I wasn't logged in. It already logged me out.
Was in AC on and off for 5-7 days at a time, going back and forth from Manila. I estimate maybe two and a half weeks worth of days there.
The real real ripe fruit, the real non-pros working honest jobs. Are hard to get, at least for me, young American Born Filipino, but I don't look Filipino, but handsome still to them. In a way, I get the best of both worlds, considered a foreigner, but considered safer because I can speak the language and am the same race. Some girls just want white dudes and I get rejected instantly if I say I'm Filipino. The attraction and the interest is there, but they want honest monogamous guys that are potential for LTR. This is difficult with the nagging fact that there's only one reason to be in AC as a foreigner.
The top girls, called spotlight girls, at bars, have a higher barfine. If the bar doesn't barfine, and is a KTV or something, then the LD drinks are higher. Hottest girls are often.
You can get screwed financially, (not talking about big scams), many different ways, here's a few that hit me.
- fuck trikes, unless you need to get somewhere in a hurry. Use GrabCar. It takes longer to wait for them, on a rare occasion its more expensive be / see 120 pesos is minimum for any trip. Many times, it's cheaper, than what a tricycle will require. Sometimes I'm in an area, where I can't get a grab car booking. I've found that if I wait, while the idle tricycle driver sees me on my phone, thinking I'm waiting for another ride, that if I ask them how much, they'll start off with a fair price. Stop using trikes, fuck them and their prices, use Grabcar. Get trikes out of the economy, or at least punish them to fair prices. Grabcar app does have tricycles! Make sure you only pay them what the app says, unfortunately there's no credit card payment option for tricycles at the moment.
- be clear when you buy ladies drinks, if you are ordering a ladies drink, to say SINGLE, and ask how much to confirm. I got screwed with a few doubles once.
- they are always pushy with ladies drinks, you can tell them wait and give you 2 minutes or 5 minutes first, before you buy her one, and just say wait, I want to make sure I like her first. Just ask your most important questions first. For me, it's just measuring her temperature, and finding out if she can do LT, or if she has a baby, or if her tits are all foam.
- You can also ask mamasan or papasan to find out who does LT or who gives good blowjob. Don't ever give mamasan or papasan a tip if they ask you for one. Tell them you will come back and give them tip tomorrow if "girl give good service", if they say they have day off, tell them you hope they enjoy their day off. It is their job to make sure their girls give good service.
- always spend your first interaction time with a girl alone, telling them wait you want to get to know them first. All too often, they invite their friends or mamasan or papasan around you, or allow the waitresses to sit next you, and they leech off of you for tips or free food. Stand up and tell them, I don't know this girl, I don't know if I like her, give privacy. You don't need the others to translate, they only make it more difficult for her to be herself. There's enough bars to threaten leaving on a whim.
- It's best to make them think you will be a long-time customer, staying for awhile, so they don't try to screw you in the short-term, like the Falcon95.
WeChat - 4 massage girls booked for 400 php per hour, two fucked short time without asking extra, I just gave what I gave, which was 1 k, avoided conversation about pay, and just tried to seduce them, saying watch tv or movie with me, and cuddle. I'm young / attractive, so YMMV. 1 girl wouldn't saying she was expensive, always offering handjob, but she wouldn't budge, for sex so I just dumped her for 1 HR no tip, no massage. One massage girl, who I really liked, I talked into sex, gave her 3 k, because I wanted a higher chance for repeats. Medium time. Not short but not long.
Freelancers - 1, given by a non-pro, cousin of a newbie massage girl. Fresh body but not the best looker, needed money, from Manila. Made a deal for 5 k whole night. Ended up saying she needed to be back in Manila to give money for hospital bills, then she will come back in early morning to finish our LT. I refused this deal, said, we will treat this like a ST as if I barfined her from a bar. I cut her down to 3 k, which is high since she wouldn't be sharing anything with a bar or manager, but accepted it, since she was fresh, first time in AC. Obviously through a fit, but made sure we were in a crowded restaurant when I broke the news of how we would handle this.
Bargirls - 4, 1 very difficult, beginner girl for me, and she was a beginner as well, I was her 2nd or 3rd actual barfine. Before she just did ladies drinks and said no to barfine. I played for a relationship angle, which I kind of wanted because I like no-condom repeats, and that's when its easier for them to do that. But her schedule was too restrictive because she traveled up and down from San Fernando to work / college in AC.
2nd, setup netflix to watch a movie, always their pick, and then go into a GFE experience. Unfortunately she wanted to leave after 1 shot, even though I said long-time. So I didn't give her a tip. Good performance still, as she got into it after we watched the movie. I take temperatures with intermittent kisses and such to see if we can get started without having to watch the whole movie.
3rd girl, netflix again first. WTF, picked the same movie, insidious 3. Zzzz. Watch this shit again. This time, since I saw it, I knew where the scary parts were and scared her first, to play games, build a little connection. I always get better service with this. A top girl from Atlantis bar.
4th girl, kept around for LT for 2 days, then off-bar (told her to tell her manager she wants to be absent for few days to visit manila for her baby). No one believes she has baby because body doesn't show it.
Will field questions if anyone has any. Will be going back soon-soon, for a longer period.
1 k short time is standard price, but I usually go for 3 k long-time, because I don't like looking for girls in the morning and I don't like girls being in a rush.
DzikaBomba
07-29-18, 14:52
I read on the Manila Airpot Homepage that they have a shuttle Bus from T1 to T3 for 20 p.
Do you Guys know how reliable this service is? Or is ist better to get a Grab Taxi instead?
I don't believe them that this shuttle is running every 15 min.
If anyone has any experience with this Shuttle please share.
Wicked Roger
07-30-18, 02:17
I read on the Manila Airpot Homepage that they have a shuttle Bus from T1 to T3 for 20 p.
Do you Guys know how reliable this service is? Or is ist better to get a Grab Taxi instead?
I don't believe them that this shuttle is running every 15 min.
If anyone has any experience with this Shuttle please share.Information is mentioned when you RTFF also I noted the shuttle long time back.
PM for details is best.
I read on the Manila Airpot Homepage that they have a shuttle Bus from T1 to T3 for 20 p.
Do you Guys know how reliable this service is? Or is ist better to get a Grab Taxi instead?
I don't believe them that this shuttle is running every 15 min.
If anyone has any experience with this Shuttle please share.The shuttle bus should be reliable but can run late due to traffic.
Depending on traffic it can take 20+ minutes from T1 to T3.
Looking forward to your report.
Well. Late FR because I already wrote my FR some weeks ago, and when I posted, the website said I wasn't logged in. It already logged me out.
To prevent this from happening check the box next to 'remember me' when you log in.
Furthermore I always copy (ctrl-C) the text I have written before I hit the post button, just to make sure I still have it when anything goes wrong.
Wicked Roger
07-30-18, 09:56
The shuttle bus should be reliable but can run late due to traffic.
Depending on traffic it can take 20+ minutes from T1 to T3.
Looking forward to your report.And depends on weather and depends on all sorts of chaotic stuff that I have experienced. Is why when I need to transfer I use alternate means now DG.
As for yous last comment. Do you still believe in Santa LOL.
SouthEaster
07-30-18, 18:58
I will be arriving after a 12 hour flight followed by a 2 hour flight. I don't think I will be bothered trying to get the shuttle even if it is right in front of me. Taxi to T3, Genesis bus straight to AC and a few hours of sleep before evening. Thanks all for the bus info.
SE.
WeChat - 4 massage girls booked for 400 php per hour, two fucked short time without asking extra, I just gave what I gave, which was 1 k, avoided conversation about pay, and just tried to seduce them, saying watch tv or movie with me, and cuddle. I'm young / attractive, so YMMV. 1 girl wouldn't saying she was expensive, always offering handjob, but she wouldn't budge, for sex so I just dumped her for 1 HR no tip, no massage. One massage girl, who I really liked, I talked into sex, gave her 3 k, because I wanted a higher chance for repeats. Medium time. Not short but not long.There seems to be some massage girls that are truly independent, others are organised. Obviously the independents are better value and will take up the offer of being treated nicely.
The girls that are part of a network are all business and the boss wants their cut of the money.
For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.
And depends on weather and depends on all sorts of chaotic stuff that I have experienced. Is why when I need to transfer I use alternate means now DG.
As for yous last comment. Do you still believe in Santa LOL.LOL.
I do believe in Pinay multi-level marketing. Still haven't stepped in to a bar yet. Had new referral yesterday and a new one coming this morning. Excuse me while I take my vitamin V.
For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.I have noticed that the networked and managed girls are texting in a more formal way and are usually addressing you with 'sir' on WeChat.
Mr Enternational
07-31-18, 09:15
I have noticed that the networked and managed girls are texting in a more formal way and are usually addressing you with 'sir' on WeChat.But I cut to the chase and tell them that I want to fuck. (I have posted screenshots of it before). They say well here is a list of girls to choose from sir. How much is it? 3000 pesos only sir. No that is too much. Tell me really how much it is. 1500 pesos only sir.
There seems to be some massage girls that are truly independent, others are organised. Obviously the independents are better value and will take up the offer of being treated nicely.
The girls that are part of a network are all business and the boss wants their cut of the money.
For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.None of mine were independents, or so they claim. Sometimes I thought they were independent but said they live in a house and pay rent / give a cut, and the bulk of what they earn is from tips or extra services.
I've only met one that was all business and she was only all business after our first encounter, probably because I was only giving her P1000, and I had messaged her while she was nearby, on the way to another client. She just shoved me into her schedule apparently.
I would think the business minded ones would enjoy the break to be treated nicely as well, mine seem to have. I do my best to break girls out of the business transaction mindset, get them to pause, and see this as a different interaction, as it usually leads to better performance and service.
But I cut to the chase and tell them that I want to fuck. (I have posted screenshots of it before). They say well here is a list of girls to choose from sir. How much is it? 3000 pesos only sir. No that is too much. Tell me really how much it is. 1500 pesos only sir.I don't usually see online chat managers as mamasans or papasans that actually do any real work to ensure you have good service. The only thing they do is tell me who is available and how far away the girl is now. So, I do my best to get them cut out of the deal as much as possible. I always tell them 1 or 2 HR for their cheapest massage, so the girl can say all they did was normal massage, and give just that. I feel like this lets me pay less in the long-term.
Sometimes though, the girl actually won't do anything more than massage, and I just lose out in a way by paying for a massage I didn't really want. A lot of the girls doing massage are doing massage because they are too conservative to go full-blown bar girl and do sex, so they keep a distance by doing massage and handjobs.
Twice in a blue awesome moon, though, I convince a girl that "only does handjobs" or has "no extra service" that I really like her and want a relationship. I do end up giving her gift money that she didn't ask for, but it's also still turned out to be some of the best sexual relationships I've had.
SAVING money.
Yes, they often quote higher and you can usually push them down. I always tell them, hey I'm a Filipino, just because I speak English doesn't mean I'm a foreigner who will pay foreigner prices. For others, yeah, just say it's too much.
I came across a few top tier girls in AC and was wondering if anyone has ever had any experience with this?
One girl, was the prettiest girl in the bar, a cherry girl, who doesn't barfine with sex, but is claimed to be a virgin, selling her virginity for 180 grand PHP.
Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.
We talk about keeping prices low and how to not get ripped off. What about the cream of crop, which is much cheaper in this country? In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.
Anyone have experience knowledge on this? Or know which mongerers on the forum do? Thanks!
In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.It was a long time ago but a Filipino took me there and I asked to leave after half an hour. Maybe some. Not all. Of the women were 9 or 10 in some people's eyes but not mine. No atmosphere, girls looked bored as hell, looked in the fishbowl but didn't ask prices. He took me to a back street, unmarked bar where there was only one other non-Filipino inside as far as I could tell and that had ordinary girls (girl next door?) doing erotic stuff like sitting on longneck beer bottles, and was much, much more fun. Damn I wish I knew where that bar was now.
Angeles or Pegasus? Angeles hands down. Ten average girls or one "stunner", possible starfish, for the same price?
Chocha Monger
07-31-18, 20:01
I came across a few top tier girls in AC and was wondering if anyone has ever had any experience with this?
One girl, was the prettiest girl in the bar, a cherry girl, who doesn't barfine with sex, but is claimed to be a virgin, selling her virginity for 180 grand PHP.
Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.
We talk about keeping prices low and how to not get ripped off. What about the cream of crop, which is much cheaper in this country? In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.
Anyone have experience knowledge on this? Or know which mongerers on the forum do? Thanks!She must really be something to look at if she is asking 180,000 pesos for her "cherry" puss! Usually, cherry girls ask 100,000 pesos for their puss and accept bids for half or less than the asking price. Selling virginity is one of the oldest scams in Angeles City. "Virginity" could mean many different things in the bars. "Virgins" suck dick, take dick in the ass, and accept cunnilingus. Some old mongers have limp dicks but long prehensile tongues that can actually penetrate virgin hymens. Therefore, after the lizard's lick, the cherry girls may not be so virgin.
Many cherry girls were fucked in the pussy hole in their province by their poor Pinoy boyfriend. The girls see this as a way of proving their love and convincing their boyfriends that they will never forget their first sex experience with them no matter how many bigger foreigner cocks pound their jungle clams. Many cherry girls sell their "virginity" more than once in the bar. There are many tricks to tighten up a well-fucked pussy and passing it off as a "virgin" puss. On the high end, the girl goes to one of the many vaginal refurbishing clinics in town and has her hymen sutured up. On the low end, the girl gives her pussy a brine douche and alum rinse. To the buyers the puss feels brand new and worth 180,000 pesos with a little award winning Pinay dramatic acting during repeated "deflorations" of their cherry girl.
Of course, there are a few girls who somehow managed to avoid being fucked by male relatives, schoolmates, and Pinoy boyfriends. However, most are not attractive at all and have faces as bumpy as Fields Ave. Cherry price is a high price to pay to fuck a virgin swamp donkey even poor Pinoys refused to ride. A few years ago, Angel Witch bar had a beautiful petite 18-year-old Eurasian cherry girl selling her cherry for 100,000 pesos. She never went bar fine, as mongers were getting in line to buy her many lady-drinks. Those sort of deals only make sense for retired expats who want to seed and breed a young stunner over the long term. Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently, as many real virgins do not want to end up in the regular fuck bin servicing hundreds of mongers.
Hot KTV girls are more selective, as there is no bar fine and they are paid better because drinks are priced higher and the girl determines how long she sits with customers. Since KTV girls are prettier and better paid to sit and drink, they are selective of who they give bareback cum-in-pussy sex. If a new monger insists on bareback, the girl may walk because no bar fine is involved and she has regular sponsors locally among businessmen and politicians.
If you can afford to pay 25,000 to 50,000 pesos for two hours of pussy in the Philippines, then you do not need to go to Pegasus KTV. Just take the time to find a high quality college girl through networking. Many girly boys in the modeling agencies have girls they can hook you up with that are the same quality as those in Pegasus.
It was a long time ago but a Filipino took me there and I asked to leave after half an hour. Maybe some. Not all. Of the women were 9 or 10 in some people's eyes but not mine. No atmosphere, girls looked bored as hell...................................One hundred per cent correct re Pegasus. For some, high price means beautiful women. The joint (building, architecture / size) is expensive, dress, make up etc expensive. 6's at best. Bored look yes. To a flip a bored look is a sophisticated look, LOL. Its a con for guys who reckon the higher the price, the more beautiful the woman.
Twenty minutes and I was out of there too.
She must really be something to look at if she is asking 180,000 pesos for her "cherry" puss! Usually, cherry girls ask 100,000 pesos for their puss and accept bids for half or less than the asking price. Selling virginity is one of the oldest scams in Angeles City. "Virginity" could mean many different things in the bars. "Virgins" suck dick, take dick in the ass, and accept cunnilingus. Some old mongers have limp dicks but long prehensile tongues that can actually penetrate virgin hymens. Therefore, after the lizard's lick, the cherry girls may not be so virgin.
Many cherry girls were fucked in the pussy hole in their province by their poor Pinoy boyfriend. The girls see this as a way of proving their love and convincing their boyfriends that they will never forget their first sex experience with them no matter how many bigger foreigner cocks pound their jungle clams. Many cherry girls sell their "virginity" more than once in the bar. There are many tricks to tighten up a well-fucked pussy and passing it off as a "virgin" puss. On the high end, the girl goes to one of the many vaginal refurbishing clinics in town and has her hymen sutured up. On the low end, the girl gives her pussy a brine douche and alum rinse. To the buyers the puss feels brand new and worth 180,000 pesos with a little award winning Pinay dramatic acting during repeated "deflorations" of their cherry girl.
Of course, there are a few girls who somehow managed to avoid being fucked by male relatives, schoolmates, and Pinoy boyfriends. However, most are not attractive at all and have faces as bumpy as Fields Ave. Cherry price is a high price to pay to fuck a virgin swamp donkey even poor Pinoys refused to ride. A few years ago, Angel Witch bar had a beautiful petite 18-year-old Eurasian cherry girl selling her cherry for 100,000 pesos. She never went bar fine, as mongers were getting in line to buy her many lady-drinks. Those sort of deals only make sense for retired expats who want to seed and breed a young stunner over the long term. Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently, as many real virgins do not want to end up in the regular fuck bin servicing hundreds of mongers.
Hot KTV girls are more selective, as there is no bar fine and they are paid better because drinks are priced higher and the girl determines how long she sits with customers. Since KTV girls are prettier and better paid to sit and drink, they are selective of who they give bareback cum-in-pussy sex. If a new monger insists on bareback, the girl may walk because no bar fine is involved and she has regular sponsors locally among businessmen and politicians.
If you can afford to pay 25,000 to 50,000 pesos for two hours of pussy in the Philippines, then you do not need to go to Pegasus KTV. Just take the time to find a high quality college girl through networking. Many girly boys in the modeling agencies have girls they can hook you up with that are the same quality as those in Pegasus.Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently.
Sounds like that would be a risky thing to try and do. The whole virginity thing, yeah, seems like a bad bet.
The hot KTV girls though. Do you know what prices they really will accept? 25 k, 50 k for two hours of pussy isn't something I would pay. But, I am tired of the discriminatory aloofness of the KTV bar girls who just go home, happy with their ladies drinks. All they want is "easy money" from the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.
No one has to pay for these girls. If they are not your cup of tea then just move along. There are buyers for them. There are expensive luxury cars that I don't see the sense in paying for them. I just move along.
I don't see the sense in paying for Starbucks coffee but I accept that other people do. McDonald coffee is just as good for half the price.
Mr Enternational
08-01-18, 13:28
But, I am tired of the discriminatory aloofness of the KTV bar girls who just go home, happy with their ladies drinks. All they want is "easy money" from the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.Isn't the idea of working to make money the easiest way?
No one has to pay for these girls. If they are not your cup of tea then just move along. There are buyers for them. There are expensive luxury cars that I don't see the sense in paying for them. I just move along.People always want what they can't have, no matter what it is. That is one of the first stories in the bible. You can have all of this multitude of stuff. Just that one thing you can't have. And what do people say? Fuck this other stuff, I want that stuff that I am not supposed to have. You can stack cow manure in a corner and tell someone that is not for them. First thing they will try to do is see how they can get the cow manure.
Isn't the idea of working to make money the easiest way?I am thinking he is more upset that he can't have them. Even tho he is a young gwapo Fil-Am with a silver tongue.
Chocha Monger
08-01-18, 19:21
Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently.
Sounds like that would be a risky thing to try and do. The whole virginity thing, yeah, seems like a bad bet.
The hot KTV girls though. Do you know what prices they really will accept? 25 k, 50 k for two hours of pussy isn't something I would pay. But, I am tired of the discriminatory aloofness of the KTV bar girls who just go home, happy with their ladies drinks. All they want is "easy money" from the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.I have banged hot KTV girls for zero pesos beyond buying drinks and table fee in the bar. However, you have to see them more than once, and they have to like you. Hence, the minimum they will accept is zero pesos if you are fun and make them laugh. If they don't like you, they will ask for 25 K and up to tolerate a couple hours of the ole in-and-out with you. You will have to wear a rubber on your dicky for the two hours too. However, when a KTV stunner grants you "friends with benefits" status, you can fuck her bareback cum-in-pussy as much as you want. You will need to put some time and money into cultivating the friendship without any guarantee of a return.
Only you can decide if banging the taller sexier KTV girls are worth the effort and expense. If less attractive girls could survive on drinks only from the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese guys, and just go home at the end of the night, they would too. The smart girls all try to limit their risk of picking up a dose of tulo from mongers who drill hundreds of other girls, and being a drinker girl who does not boom-boom many horny random mongers works nicely for them.
You can always try lower end KTVs where the girls may let you do the ole in-and-out for about 7 K / ST.
Isn't the idea of working to make money the easiest way?
People always want what they can't have, no matter what it is. That is one of the first stories in the bible. You can have all of this multitude of stuff. Just that one thing you can't have. And what do people say? Fuck this other stuff, I want that stuff that I am not supposed to have. You can stack cow manure in a corner and tell someone that is not for them. First thing they will try to do is see how they can get the cow manure.Call it what you will, but the Japanese and Korean do this to outsiders. Most Japanese escorts, Korean escorts in their respective countries don't entertain foreigner clients. That's the attitude that I don't like. Bringing that here, establishing bars that don't cater to foreigners is not something I think anyone here likes. I'm not rejected from these KTV bars, I'm seen as an Asian just the same, I just don't want to pay more than what the real prices are, the same as everyone else here with experience.
These KTV bars have the hottest girls. Is the ISG thread just going to balk at it and say, they have an ambiguously higher price?
From what I can tell, the community in general doesn't appreciate ignorant mongerers going out and paying dumbly higher prices, raising the asking price for everyone else.
But, that's what Japanese and Korean seem to be doing, raising the price of full service by basically employing the generally hotter KTV girls to just drink, karaoke, and receive easy money to fuck the smallest dicks in Asia, for the shortest lasting sessions in Asia. 5 minute fuck session for maybe 10000 or more? From the smallest dicks in Asia. For the hotter girls in AC. That doesn't bother any westerner here?
The point of this community it to share knowledge and experience, so that we stay safe and don't go out there getting screwed with foreigner taxes, dynamic pricing, western pricing.
Does anyone on this thread have knowledge or experience for the real going rates for these girls at KTV bars? When I say 25 k, 50 k, that's what I was hearing with respect to Pegasus KTV models in Manila, which from what people on the thread are saying, do not even have serious lookers there.
Here's what I learned from a concierge in AC. KTV girls don't have a price, they are looking long-term. They want to find a man that will take care of them, marry them, support them.
The information that I got about Pegasus KTV having hot celebrity models must be inaccurate, as multiple people here have confirmed. Is my information about KTV girls inaccurate too?
Mr Enternational
08-01-18, 21:39
But, that's what Japanese and Korean seem to be doing, raising the price of full service by basically employing the generally hotter KTV girls to just drink, karaoke, and receive easy money to fuck the smallest dicks in Asia, for the shortest lasting sessions in Asia. 5 minute fuck session for maybe 10000 or more? From the smallest dicks in Asia. For the hotter girls in AC. That doesn't bother any westerner here?LOL. Nope. Does not bother me one bit. I don't give a rat's ass about what someone else is doing or paying because I am too busy paying and doing what I am.
I am not going to sit here and complain that I can not get into Tiger Woods' country club. I will set up my own damn country club if that is what I want. I am not going to run around stomping and having a tantrum because I can not afford to do what someone else is doing. That is their shit that they set up for themselves. Why would I feel the need to infiltrate and tell them what their rates should be and how to run their playground? When you set yours up, run it how you want and charge how much you want.
Westerners had 50 years to set up and run shit their way. Can't complain when someone comes along and does their own shit another way.
P. S. Hot celebrity models are only as good as their, makeup, hairdo, and outfit. Take all that shit off and all those broads are the same. I used to fuck a porn star in Brazil. She said to make a movie they would have to go in for 8 hours, and 4 of those hours were spent doing hair and makeup. Don't drool over glitz.
LOL. Nope. Does not bother me one bit. I don't give a rat's ass about what someone else is doing or paying because I am too busy paying and doing what I am.
I am not going to sit here and complain that I can not get into Tiger Woods' country club. I will set up my own damn country club if that is what I want. I am not going to run around stomping and having a tantrum because I can not afford to do what someone else is doing. That is their shit that they set up for themselves. Why would I feel the need to infiltrate and tell them what their rates should be and how to run their playground? When you set yours up, run it how you want and charge how much you want.
Westerners had 50 years to set up and run shit their way. Can't complain when someone comes along and does their own shit another way.I agree with you from the buy side perspective. There is a market that I am happy to partake in. Who am I to complain if others have set up another market that I do not use??
The same can be said from the sell side. I am not interested in girls that are trading only on looks or the quality of the establishment quite often with no effort put into attitude or performance. Sure stunnners are great to look at but I would argue that cuties at the local market can be just as pretty and not have all the baggage of someone who considers herself a village princess.
Mr Enternational
08-01-18, 22:15
Sure stunnners are great to look at but I would argue that cuties at the local market can be just as pretty and not have all the baggage of someone who considers herself a village princess.And that is exactly why me and my friends sit at the market in Pattaya all afternoon to pick up chicks, while other mfs are spending all kinds of money in the gogos!
Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.
I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.
Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?
Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?
Member #4698
08-01-18, 23:00
Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.
I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.
Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?
Or bite the bullet and just stay a night in manila?I would spend at least 1 night in MNL because I like MNL girls best. The girls alone draw me to MNL. Cutting a long tedious road trip into two halves is all roses on top of that.
Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.
I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.
Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?
Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?Or just fly on the seaplane.
BrainDrain
08-02-18, 00:40
Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.!I've met two KTV girls after hours on their off days. Just normal girls when they are out of the Korean KTV atmosphere.
I have a feeling that the prices quoted may have happened to one girl once, once when one guy was on a bender. Is it happening every night? Was that money spent to the girl or the bar owner?
I cannot afford the korean prices nor do I enjoy the korean bar experience. I don't go there.
BD.
I am thinking he is more upset that he can't have them. Even tho he is a young gwapo Fil-Am with a silver tongue.I stand by my statement here. The only issue with PRICES is he can't afford the 25 k. $500 is not a lot of money and their seems to be ready market for them with plenty of buyers.
Phil is not the land for entitled Americans. I get it. It sucks when your entitled young gwapa Fil-Am looks can't get you anything.
I stand by my statement here. The only issue with PRICES is he can't afford the 25 k. $500 is not a lot of money and their seems to be ready market for them with plenty of buyers.
Phil is not the land for entitled Americans. I get it. It sucks when your entitled young gwapa Fil-Am looks can't get you anything.I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am. I only ever mentioned it because I was leveraging that in getting bareback, in paying what I was paying. It's disingenuous to not include that, it would create the wrong expectations. Young handsome Caucasians are the ones that have it the best here, and everywhere else.
I can afford $500 just fine. I was already spending 12 k LT per night in Manila for 2 months. I paid 7. 5 k USD for a sauna, 12 k USD for a bed, $1300 for a desk. I'm fine with high prices, as long as its for what I really want. I haven't lost, nor do I ever intend to, lose half my wealth to a divorce, a woman I eventually come to hate, and that steals my children.
I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?
I've met two KTV girls after hours on their off days. Just normal girls when they are out of the Korean KTV atmosphere.
I have a feeling that the prices quoted may have happened to one girl once, once when one guy was on a bender. Is it happening every night? Was that money spent to the girl or the bar owner?
I cannot afford the korean prices nor do I enjoy the korean bar experience. I don't go there.
BD.Thanks BrainDrain.
The 25 k, 50 k prices was just what I heard from a GrabCar driver for Pegasus KTV in Manila. I don't know anything about prices in KTV in AC yet, I've only ever been inside for a short time while waiting for another girl.
KTV there is no paying to the owner, KTV is just buying the girls drinks. Any meeting you have with her outside is privately set up, the drinks cost more. They try and sell you on a private room upstairs, where you order food and drinks. The bar makes their money off of that. The girls make their money off of that. It's private enough to negotiate for some action in the room itself.
The korean prices, from where? What prices were you getting? Korean girly Bars (not KTV) on perimeter have cheaper barfines than WS.
I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?You seem to be asking about two things which are mutually exclusive:
I true high end girl will not be interested in a nightly rate. She will be secured with a car, apartment and generous allowance. She would regard P50 k as walking around money.
A pretty hooker will be available for daily rates. Said rates will depend on her looks and social skills. Plenty of girls are demanding and getting USD 1000 per night without too much trouble.
I can't comment on LT paid relationships with the second category. However I will say that they make great GFs / FWBs, providing both are comfortable with the realities of the relationship. In my case when I was in town, we would be together. No questions were asked about what either did while we were apart. I covered living and travel costs but no extra money changed hands. Everyone in town knew of our relationship. This continued for months until one of her sponsors got jealous of our arrangement and took her to Vietnam to get married.
From this you can see that even if she is a full professional rates for you can be anything from essentially free to as much as you want to pay. It just depends on how commercial you what the arrangement to be. There is no menu of prices but more like the price is what ever you want to pay.
I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am. I only ever mentioned it because I was leveraging that in getting bareback, in paying what I was paying. It's disingenuous to not include that, it would create the wrong expectations. Young handsome Caucasians are the ones that have it the best here, and everywhere else.
I can afford $500 just fine. I was already spending 12 k LT per night in Manila for 2 months. I paid 7. 5 k USD for a sauna, 12 k USD for a bed, $1300 for a desk. I'm fine with high prices, as long as its for what I really want. I haven't lost, nor do I ever intend to, lose half my wealth to a divorce, a woman I eventually come to hate, and that steals my children.
I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?Then just do it and report back.
They are no different than you or me. Once you earn more you are not going to work for less.
Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.
I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.
Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?
Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach. If you want to hire a private banca they will take you to Sabang.
I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am....If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.
My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.
Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.
You seem to be asking about two things which are mutually exclusive:
I true high end girl will not be interested in a nightly rate. She will be secured with a car, apartment and generous allowance. She would regard P50 k as walking around money.
A pretty hooker will be available for daily rates. Said rates will depend on her looks and social skills. Plenty of girls are demanding and getting USD 1000 per night without too much trouble.
......I'd suggest SA, if price is not your first consideration. There are many more quality girls there and they would be willing to be yours for a couple of months for the amounts we are talking about here. Be open and honest about what you are offering and asking for and you will find it in the Philippines.
So far my best success, both in quality and duration was a SA girl. We agreed on a fairly small allowance that in the end she did not take, all I put out was for a couple day training course that she needed to keep her license and I replaced a phone that she actually lost. (I was with her, she had it as we gone on a long trike ride and it was gone at the end of the ride. I was the one that suggested the 18 k phone, more memory, might be better for her than the 16 k one she asked for.).
It ended because her parents insisted but she was a 21 year old completely open minded little hottie.
Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.
I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.
Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?I've done that taxi trip many times. My hotel charges around $150. It's too much for my budget. Next time, I'm going to probably take the local buses. You probably will go from Dau to Cubao to Batangas. It will be 2 buses. I've done the Batangas to Angeles trip twice with local buses. It's fast with comfortable buses. I've written detailed info on it. You just have to go backwards.
I've always left around 10 AM. It takes around 3.5 hours to get to Bantagas pier without any stops. There's some traffic around Manila, but hotel taxi can drive very fast before and after. I've always made the 2 something PM boat ride to Sabang from Father and Sons Line.
No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach.Really? That sucks. From Puerto Galera town, you can take the 20 pesos jeepney to Sabang. The last one leaves around the evening time. But it will be a pain in the rear to carry your luggage a few hundred meters over a hill to the jeepney station. You can take a trike for around 100 pesos.
Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?I've done that couple of times. It's convenient if you take the tourist buses. Southern Cross shuttle to Manila in the afternoon. And then Skikat shuttle/banca to Sabang in the morning. But I don't like Manila, and I probably won't do that route again.
Hmm. Skikat gave you the public banca to Sabang. Does that mean Skikat doesn't do that route anymore?
If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.
My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.
Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.I figured it was a typo on your end.
I don't introduce myself as Filipino, I don't look Filipino. Some maybe figure me as half. Sometimes I stop even trying to say I'm Filipino because people have a hard time believing.
I've never had trouble introducing myself as Filipino from the US. I've only had a hard time convincing them that I'm not half or something else.
It's my mistake to ask for the real price in KTV, because there is no real price, there's common prices people are getting and prices the girls are used to. There's also a price to finding out in KTV, and that price will likely vary based on how much you've already put in their pockets in terms of ladies drinks, how much they are already making from ladies drinks, and how much they like you from spending time with them. The price can be very volatile because of all the variables here, variables that can cost you time and money with a lot of risk. Which is why FR here is more valuable than barfine FR. In barfine FR, at least you get something. Sometimes guys complain going into bars and after buying the girl many drinks, they say they can't barfine. This is the same thing with KTV, except in KTV you can't ask upfront without a high risk of getting a high price. Then, you have to wait / blow time until 3 or 4 am, when they get off, or wait until their day off. If you happen to stay until 3-4 am, when the KTV closes, you hope she isn't too tired, you aren't too tired, to go back to your place. If you leave earlier than this time, you have to hope she cares enough and that someone with a more careless wallet didn't come after you and throw her a better offer.
I'm not making this more complicated than it is. This is that complicated, otherwise you are just throwing a lot of dice and hoping the stars align.
ISG in AC doesn't have a lot of experience with KTV's, ok, that's fine. I'll find out and report back.
Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? I'd like to order some things overseas since I plan on staying awhile, while still under the status of being a tourist, not a resident.
I figure an apartment can be rented, or a long-term condotel, for a month or two at a time, sure, that can receive packages. But that might not work for me, I just wonder if there are just boxes you can rent out, like UPS or FedEx has, maybe where they'll email or text you if you get a package. If you know of more than one company, that would be appreciated too.
Do any expats here have a hard time receiving mail in AC?
GoodEnough
08-03-18, 11:56
Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? I'd like to order some things overseas since I plan on staying awhile, while still under the status of being a tourist, not a resident.
I figure an apartment can be rented, or a long-term condotel, for a month or two at a time, sure, that can receive packages. But that might not work for me, I just wonder if there are just boxes you can rent out, like UPS or FedEx has, maybe where they'll email or text you if you get a package. If you know of more than one company, that would be appreciated too.
Do any expats here have a hard time receiving mail in AC?Cannot answer for AC, but in Davao, where I've lived for quite a while, it's not a problem getting package delivery. If you're expecting a package from one of the larger services such as DHL, or even an express delivery from a local service, it's easy to track the packages on line.
GE.
Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? ....I asked my friend Mr Google, the man who knows everything if you ask correctly, and he came up with a Mail Box Etc at 1144 Don Chino Roces.
Google "Mailboxes Manila" and you get several places selling physical mailboxes but also some virtual offices that offer this service and some places like MBE.
You could also try asking at a LBC if they would receive parcels for you. If you trust them a local sari sari store or other business could also act for you.
I've done that taxi trip many times. My hotel charges around $150. It's too much for my budget. Next time, I'm going to probably take the local buses. You probably will go from Dau to Cubao to Batangas. It will be 2 buses. I've done the Batangas to Angeles trip twice with local buses. It's fast with comfortable buses. I've written detailed info on it. You just have to go backwards.
I've always left around 10 AM. It takes around 3.5 hours to get to Bantagas pier without any stops. There's some traffic around Manila, but hotel taxi can drive very fast before and after. I've always made the 2 something PM boat ride to Sabang from Father and Sons Line.
Really? That sucks. From Puerto Galera town, you can take the 20 pesos jeepney to Sabang. The last one leaves around the evening time. But it will be a pain in the rear to carry your luggage a few hundred meters over a hill to the jeepney station. You can take a trike for around 100 pesos.
I've done that couple of times. It's convenient if you take the tourist buses. Southern Cross shuttle to Manila in the afternoon. And then Skikat shuttle/banca to Sabang in the morning. But I don't like Manila, and I probably won't do that route again.
Hmm. Skikat gave you the public banca to Sabang. Does that mean Skikat doesn't do that route anymore?Private ferry boats to and from Sabang (departing and arriving from Berberabe) are not affected. Only the public ferry boats departing Batangas terminal are no longer stopping at Sabang, In other words there are no more PUBLIC banca boats servicing PG from Batangas.
Surely that can't be right?
Anyone got updated info?
Private ferry boats to and from Sabang (departing and arriving from Berberabe) are not affected. Only the public ferry boats departing Batangas terminal are no longer stopping at Sabang, In other words there are no more PUBLIC banca boats servicing PG from Batangas.
Surely that can't be right?
Anyone got updated info?I was just in PG / Sabang from July 5 - 13 and it is very true. No more public ferry banca boats servicing Sabang from Batangas terminal. You can still hire a private banca to / from Berberade and Sabang. Unless something has changed in the last month you will be dropped in PG by the public boat if you want to go to Sabang.
Living Right
08-06-18, 03:40
Continued from Makati thread.
After having my lunch at Tequila Reef headed up to Perimeter. New names replace old names but the game is the same.
It's rainy season and the bars are relatively quiet. For some this makes the girls more outgoing. For others I'm convinced it makes them depressed and the opposite happens, they become shy. Probably because they are newer and more intimidated by others.
Visited a couple of the bars a little further out before settling in on one, DET5 I believe. Struck up a good time with a nice girl that had a sporty edgy face if you know what I mean. We drank for a couple, of hours and it was fast approaching closing time. I didn't intend to bar fine her even though we were tipsy. She said she wants to spend more time with me. I told her I'm going to are&be to listen to the band for a bit and she was welcome to join me. She said cannot tonight. So we said our goodbyes and that was that. Or so I thought.
I rode trike to R&B and decided to eat at Korean restaurant next door. First time there. Last time too. I won't bash it here but let's say it wasn't my cup of kimchi.
I go in to are&be and get a table off to the side. About 1130 a girl slides up next to me. It's the same girl from the bar. She said she changed her mind and came to see if I was here. A test? Don't know. Don't care.
We drank some more. Ordered more food and stayed about an hour. We tried it back to my hotel and both collapsed. Fell right asleep. In the morning she started getting cuddly but not really frisky. It's hard to say it was starfish but certainly less than fantastic. But hey, this wasn't arranged, we didn't discuss expectations, we didn't discuss money. I didn't bar fine her. She came to me. Not many freebies in Angeles. We had a good time together. She made some commission on drinks and had a free dinner and a couple of hours out. She left in the morning and said she hopes to see me again.
Tomorrow is another day. I'm Living Right.
Living Right
08-08-18, 10:30
Got a text from a friend who told me Monday was her day off and she was bored. Could we do something?
It's been written many times that there is not a lot to do during the day. There's always going to one of the malls and maybe taking in a movie but it was only 9 am and neither of us really wanted to do that. After bouncing around some ideas we decided to visit Aqua Planet, the new water park out past the airport. The day was cloudy and chance of rain all day, but no big deal if we are wet anyway.
We gather our things and meet then take a grab to the water park. A little pricey at 950 each but not horrible. They included a free chicken lunch so that was a plus.
We do a couple of the simple slides before going to the 2 big ones, only to learn you must have 4 people or you cannot ride. Mind you the park was not at all crowded and after asking several people rejected our requests to ride with us we had to come up with another plan. My girl called two of her friends and asked if they wanted to come. Hell yeah. In less than an hour 2 more hotties showed up. I give them the 2000 to enter and in they come.
We have a blast. Riding every water slide many times. No waiting. Intermittent rain was not a deterrence. And me walking with 3 pretty ladies in bathing suits was not a bad way to spend the day.
We left about 4. Took a taxi back to a central spot and were ready to part ways. I said I'm hungry, would they like to join me? All 3 agreed but they wanted to shower and change. We agreed to meet at my hotel in an hour and off they went. After an hour all 3 arrived looking great. We went to Fortune and had a nice meal. As we left the girls said they wanted to drink but didn't really want to bar hop since they too were tired. We stopped at the store, bought some alcohol and went back to the room.
The relaxing environment and being tired seemed to reduce the time it took for the alcohol to take effect. A little later lots of kisses and nakedness was the norm. The girls didn't partake in each other but didn't mind sharing me. Another hour we were all wiped out. They wanted to go home which was fine with me. I crashed and had a good night sleep.
What I thought was becoming an expensive day turned into quite a bargain and a really fun day. I really am Living Right.
Albert9989
08-08-18, 21:32
Got a text from a friend who.....................I really am Living Right.Nice story here and looks like nice day.
Member #4566
08-11-18, 11:43
Pomp.
Previously you have been asked to provide advice and photos to those you chastise for saying RTFF. Yet again you have not which suggests you don't have much to give and never been to the Philippines. You give little but criticise a lot. You never post photos and never say anything about your past adventuresDear Mr. Roger:
I called you out on being inhospitable to newbies and the above characterization of my posting history was, in pertinent part, your reply. If you had done your due diligence about reading my posts then you would have known that your claims were untrue. You were not conscientious about doing your research and RTFF. This shortcoming is beyond the RTFF grievance that you have with your nemesis the newbie because you see Mr. Roger, you acted in bad faith by not reviewing my posting history.
However the underlying issue has nothing to do with proving my pedigree as an ISG member and is all about your conduct towards newcomers.
Here is a bitter pill for you to swallow. We are finding that technology is creating the same kind of addictive behavior that we once only associated with alcoholism and drug use. An alcohol abuser who is in denial may claim that he can give up alcohol anytime but that he does not want to stop. Maybe your rudeness to the newbie results from your boredom, frustration, and malaise caused by such an addiction. With your 5,000 posts and still rolling, it is worth thinking about. Anyway, I regret the delay in responding. I was busy with life.
I called you out on being inhospitable to newbies Hi Pomp,
I was a newbie once and WR was most helpful to me. Even met me for lunch at Ayala Mall in Cebu and set me up with one or two his harem fucklets who were super good to me. At first I thought he might be a pimp but then realized he's just altruistic.
Blanquiceleste
08-11-18, 16:19
Dear Mr. Roger: I called you out on being inhospitable to newbies and the above characterization of my posting history was, in pertinent part, your reply. Unfortunately, one could not be farther from the truth. I am a complete noob as far as Cebu is concerned, and I sent a PM to WR. He has been more than forthcoming with his advice. After exchanging a few emails I feel like I will definitely have a great time in Cebu next week.
WR rocks!
Member #4698
08-11-18, 16:28
Ditto. WR has always been friendly, generous, and very well informed to me as well. In my considered opinion he is one of the good guys on the PI boards.
Mr Enternational
08-11-18, 21:01
Hi Pomp,
I was a newbie once and WR was most helpful to me. Even met me for lunch at Ayala Mall in Cebu and set me up with one or two his harem fucklets who were super good to me. At first I thought he might be a pimp but then realized he's just altruistic.Even when I was not a newbie, he offered the exact same to me, but I was too busy to take him up on it. Besides that, it was when me and my girlfriend were on a trip to Cebu.
Wicked Roger
08-11-18, 23:56
Dear Mr. Roger:
I called you out on being inhospitable to newbies and the above characterization of my posting history was, in pertinent part, your reply. If you had done your due diligence about reading my posts then you would have known that your claims were untrue. You were not conscientious about doing your research and RTFF. This shortcoming is beyond the RTFF grievance that you have with your nemesis the newbie because you see Mr. Roger, you acted in bad faith by not reviewing my posting history.
However the underlying issue has nothing to do with proving my pedigree as an ISG member and is all about your conduct towards newcomers.
Here is a bitter pill for you to swallow. We are finding that technology is creating the same kind of addictive behavior that we once only associated with alcoholism and drug use. An alcohol abuser who is in denial may claim that he can give up alcohol anytime but that he does not want to stop. Maybe your rudeness to the newbie results from your boredom, frustration, and malaise caused by such an addiction. With your 5,000 posts and still rolling, it is worth thinking about. Anyway, I regret the delay in responding. I was busy with life.This is what I posted Pomp.
Pomp.
So as you find my reply so bad here is a suggestion. You reply to Dante in full with all details to save him time. I would for one like to see what you give in info as you give little but criticise a lot. You never post photos and never say anything about your past adventures so please reply to Dante FRs in full so we can all benefit from your vast wealth of data that you can freely share with a manager.
And remember we have PM and you got good info that way and that is how it should be done after RTFF and especially AC as really if you can't come her and figure it out quickly don't come to AC in my view.
Look forward to your very long FR answering all Dante's questions. DG had it right IMHO.You have not done so. Please do so we can read. That was the focus of the FR.
Thanks the, Mr E and be plus others who have PM me (including Dante).
Pomp. Reply to Dante FR questions in full please so we know that you have been to AC and the Philippines in fact. Nothing to do with RTFF etc as you have used the same excuse before when refusing to help others while at the same time criticising those who suggest RTFF As someone said in a movie once 'show us the meat' (and we don't me you todger LOL).
Look forward to your comprehensive reply (point by point).
Ditto. WR has always been friendly, generous, and very well informed to me as well. In my considered opinion he is one of the good guys on the PI boards.Ditto that for me too.
Just left AC. Rain created a drought of bar customers. Had 3 new bgs referrals from other girls this past week. All 2 shots 2 k. Girls were slim and decent. Came before or after shift or on their day off. 2 were newbies from province about 20 yo, both with one baby each, products of run away fathers. Glad to oblige with their first big O's!
I have a question.
Whatever happened to Asian Rain, the serial barebacker?
I forgot to mention this the last time.
My last night in AC, I wanted to buy pizza for my ladies of the night, none of whom I fucked. So I placed a Greenwich Pizza order through Food Panda.
Flashback to last year. I did the same last year. But last year, Greenwich Pizza had their own online ordering website. And I placed an order to Fields Avenue. And last year, the driver came 20 minutes early. Well, a normal person would then just wait out the 20 minutes at the delivery address. But this idiot Filipino delivery boy went off to a place called Juanita's. Then, he calls me and says he is at Juanita's and asks me why I am not there. Listen you fucking idiot, I didn't order the pizza to Juanita's. I told him to return to Fields Avenue (exact street address was included) which was the address I gave them and then finally received the pizza.
Now this time, I go to the Greenwich online website and realize that they have disabled their online ordering system. A cost cutting measure, I guess. Instead, they advise you to place your order through Food Panda. There is no other way. I guess you could always call them. But I'm not going to call them and repeat every fucking thing I say three times.
So I place an order through Food Panda. After about half an hour, I'm about to head out to the delivery address. Then, I get a message from Food Panda. They have cancelled my order saying the address I gave them is out of their delivery area. WTF. If Greenwich Pizza can't deliver to Fields Avenue which is in the heart of Balibago, then to hell with them. It took me over an hour to find an alternate.
The next day I arrive in my country. I turn on my cellphone and I get this creepy message from Food Panda. They are admitting their mistake and in compensation they are offering me a 80 peso coupon. Thanks for the fucking insult Food Panda. The total order was 1,296 pesos. You are not even offering 10%. The total order was $25 and I'm just a buck fifty write-off to them. And on top of that, the coupon is only valid for 2 weeks. So they are admitting that they screwed me. And in trying to make it up, they are screwing me again. Most likely, some Filipinos make prank orders to an obscure address. But this wasn't my first time ordering food through Food Panda. I had done it 3 or 4 times before. And they didn't even call me to confirm the order and / or the address before cancelling it. They just cancelled it unilaterally.
That will be the last time I am buying food for the ladies of the night.
Because some members were curious about the KTV prices in Malate.
I didn't go inside, but I talked to the male hosts standing outside. And this is what they told me.
500 Pesos. All-you-can-drink for 2 hours (You cannot order just one beer.).
300 Pesos. Request fee (That is for saying to a girl, "Hey Baby, sit next to me."
300 Pesos. Ladies Drink.
Now, it gets crazier here.
Mandatory 12% Tourist Tax Surcharge.
Mandatory 10% Service Charge.
Then, I tried to talk to the dude from the KTV next door and he said, "Sir, it's the same system at all Malate KTV's. " Then, I guess, case closed. So basically, it will cost you over 1,300 Pesos to have a drink with a lady of your choice.
I didn't inquire about the sok sok prices. But they must be huge.
Unfortunately, one could not be farther from the truth. I am a complete noob as far as Cebu is concerned, and I sent a PM to WR. He has been more than forthcoming with his advice. After exchanging a few emails I feel like I will definitely have a great time in Cebu next week.
WR rocks!+1 from me.
He tried to kill me with the little strumpets he recommended on my visit!!
Not to mention all the local knowledge he happily gave out.
Chocha Monger
08-12-18, 15:49
I have a question.
Whatever happened to Asian Rain, the serial barebacker?He is still out there happily filling up tarts with cream pies throughout SEA. However, he no longer shares his experiences on the forum.
Yes you are complicating things.
Keep it simple, "cum in their mouth' is their favourite.
WestCoast1
08-13-18, 03:49
+1 from me.
He tried to kill me with the little strumpets he recommended on my visit!!Concur. Hanging around WR might mean lots of late morning or early afternoon jaunts to his 'office', a coffee shop in Ayala. He might even toss a girl or two your way. If a man MUST die, having caffeine and poon thrown at him MIGHT be the way to go?
Chocha Monger
08-13-18, 06:58
Yes you are complicating things.
Keep it simple, "cum in their mouth' is their favourite.Sxxxx is right! Just keep it simple and shoot your load down their throats. They love the protein and micro nutrient rich hot cum even more than chicken joy and jolly spaghetti. When you feed Pinay hookers pizzas, and other high carbohydrate and saturated fat meals, it makes them lethargic and wish to sleep instead of fucking on a full stomach. They already sleep all day, gorge themselves on rice, and pig fat accompanied with sweet drinks, and sugary desserts. Feeding them extra food is just contributing to the obesity epidemic ravaging bar girls. There are enough fatties to fuck without mongers creating more with free junk for hookers.
................Just keep it simple and shoot your load down their throats. They love the protein and micro nutrient rich hot cum even more than chicken joy and jolly spaghetti. When you feed Pinay hookers pizzas, and other high carbohydrate and saturated fat meals, it makes them lethargic and wish to sleep instead of fucking on a full stomach. They already sleep all day, gorge themselves on rice, and pig fat accompanied with sweet drinks, and sugary desserts. Feeding them extra food is just contributing to the obesity epidemic ravaging bar girls. There are enough fatties to fuck without mongers creating more with free junk for hookers.Yes, this subject is important.
As you say, cum in mouth provides much needed protein for the girls, without risking obesity.
Correct, people eat, then want to sleep or are less industrious. Do not feed the girls before sex, otherwise their performance might be lacking.
First, she works (sex) then she eats (her reward). C. I. M.
Lots of cockroaches in red light districts, raised on wasted, precious high protein cum.
See. I. M = more high energy fucks, and less cockroaches in the rooms.
First question at the bar: "Do you believe in CIM" ?
BaddHabbit
08-14-18, 19:55
Hi Pomp,
I was a newbie once and WR was most helpful to me. Even met me for lunch at Ayala Mall in Cebu and set me up with one or two his harem fucklets who were super good to me. At first I thought he might be a pimp but then realized he's just altruistic.Same goes for me. WR has gone out of his way to lend me a helping hand, with no expectations attached.
Darn. Missed out on WR's tutelage. But there is still time. I believe in teaching old dogs new tricks. Woof woof.
BrainDrain
08-16-18, 04:36
AC never fails to inspire me with inspiration.
Arrival day I was met at the airport by a sweet wechat girl, a regular from previous visits. It's nice to have company in the car trip. The familiarity redevelops in the car and she's good to go as soon as we hit the hotel. This girl works as a freelance masseuse usually but really doesn't make much money. Kind of picky I think. That's good for her regulars I guess. Will repeat in a week as she's out of town. No questions asked.
Next day a 21 year old uni student. Amazing, incredible sensitive nipples. For this girl that's all I needed to do to get her started. Each girl has her ignition key and it's fun to find it for each girl. Wants to cum again tonight.
A couple of weeks ago I picked up a cell number of a hotel OJT. 29 yrs, still 3rd year college. We've kept in contact and she was happy to meet on a wet weekend day. She wants to bring her 20 year old friend to which I agreed. After things settled the 20 year old left us alone. The body of a girl that has not given childbirth or breastfeeding really is a pleasure. Previously this girl had a long term foreigner boyfriend. I think 4-5 years together. I'd like to thank that guy because he certainly trained her on BBBJ techniques. It's also a reminder that we need to do our part to train the girls for the benefit of others. She still lives at home and decided to leave for the night. Next day she asks if she can come for breakfast. What a great BBBJ treat that was, a real pleasing girl. She's welcome back.
Next up (in no specific order, depending on their schedules).
24 yo call center girl.
My neighbourhood dancer. I'm thinking to take her out of town so things are not so complicated. 27 year old, no kid.
27 year repeat from last year.
24 yo elusive PL girl, kind of cute face, but hard to catch.
Happy days. I really do not see how people have trouble getting laid in AC.
BD.
Albert9989
08-16-18, 08:47
AC never fails to inspire me with inspiration.
Arrival day I was met at the airport.....
BD.Like this it looks like heaven.
BrainDrain
08-16-18, 11:47
24 yo call center girl..Met this girl on a dating site and chatting over the past two weeks. Describes herself as a little chubby, "do you like chubby BD?" she asked. I keep an open mind as quite often what a Filipino calls chubby is certainly not fat.
Met for a late lunch at Robinsons. She was solid, turned out to be mother of one and the bonus being she was 21 only. Sitting across the table she was doing a very poor job of hiding some exceptional big boobs for her frame.
Nice enough chitchat and towards the end of the meal she just casually says "Are we going back to your apartment soon?" That pretty well set the activity in motion. She was on a mission and had a baby at home with her nanny due to leave at 6.
Back in the apartment the top and bra came off to reveal a set of E cups. Amazing.
Her body was showing a few scars of birth but her enthusiasm and enjoyment made up for everything. She was also happy to assist me on how to maximise my enjoyment.
In the end she is a great performer and knows how to enjoy herself. The key for this girl is flexibility to her schedule which she has to fit in her sex between work, jeepney and getting home. She doesn't hang around and is unlikely to turn up unexpected.
If you are hunting at the moment on Tagged. I hope you can find here.
About 7:30 Miss Sensitive Nipples will be returning. It's getting complicated with her. I really need to end it with her BUT she is so good. She will be back available on Tagged as from tomorrow.
AC really has something for everyone.
BD.
Cheers to all good hearted mongers. Home now.
*I'm on my some-tenth trip booked for 3 weeks cut down to 2 and a day due to technical difficulties. *what I've found out about the current state of the Makati and ac scenes.
My info on Makati where I spent my first 3 days 2 weeks ago is limited but I did manage to bar hop a little during the day. *tickles and bourbon had little to offer at happy hour, *2,100 BF cost. *I met a skinny cutie at tickles and eventually exercised w / her later in the day. Before I took her I went to bourbon and then rogues. *rogues has moved across the street and is less designed for dancer maulings but the girls can still apply their hard sell any where they want. And they did!
Their day talent had some goodies and the rogue BF was 1,600 so that was attractive. Stupid me promised the tickle's dancer I would return which I did. *in both bars I asked the BGs if they would go for 2 K tip and it was a happy yes. For a decent Burgos BG 3,600 (all in) is pretty good.
The night before my buddy and I went to the cafe Havana hunting (or prey) for FLs. The one I picked turned out to be a dud at 3 k. My buddy found himself in a nice session, *not me. *my dud left me unfinished (midnight) so I went out for a Burgos FL and found 2 bottom fish ready for a stereo BJ which got to to bed w a smile.
AC, perimeter.
Got there 18 days ago and saved a lot of money by staying in my room every other night. *I also saved because of the perimeter pricing. *the perimeter bars were between 1,800 and 2,500 and the talent was in every price range. *I didn't have to spend 2,500 to get something special which is like the old AC.
I made sure to go to bars I never used to hit so I found Det5 to be very good, *I think lips was another bar (4 bars away from master Poseidon) that had talent overflowing. I found a gem at Rio but stopped at bar around the corner for 10 minutes then returned to Rio and she was gone. *that I'll regret until I forget about it in a years time, maybe never.
Stopped in ice bar and the platinum bar but they're not what they once were, ice bar has the edge here.
Ponytails was also less than my last visit in January. Emotions was okay w a nice sexy big tits waitress. I'll remember her. *I went back for her a couple of times but timing was bad. *she was dripping w sex appeal. bar fine 2 k I think. In most bars they had single and double LDs, 160/300 p.
They're were other good bars on the perimeter but memory is doing the best it can right now. I pulled maybe 4 or 5 from the perimeter in my 10 days. If I were my old self it would have easily been closer to 15. Plenty of talent here.
Fields.
I went to all my faves, Arcadia (1 pull 2 times), *club ra, *lollipops, *vikings (2 pulls), *club x, *and then the smaller bars which seemed to be more lively than in the past, I'm thinking la bamba. I liked la bamba and the margaritas were surprisingly good. The margarita high is my favorite of all liquors and drinks. A lot of nice dark ones here as was rapsody. I went to others but now forget. Arcadia was easily the bar w the most talent. I wish I were 100%. *so many I liked. I ended up BFing a special (brand new) Cebuana from Arcadia. Twice!
Half the bars I went to collected bar fines the old way, half the new way (intentionally vague). The name your price, "subic method" was in play at very few bars and there was no gouging by the BGs as there was on my last subic visit. The BGs I asked "how much" always quoted a normal field's BF price. Fields is still at 3 k every where I went, some at 2,500. Drinks were also the same as last year which is great.
My assessment for the casual tourist like myself (locals already know I think) on the state of things in AC is this. Everything is the same except the BGs are slightly more business oriented. Slightly is the key word in this opinion. They are not as cuddly as they used to be but still far more than their Thailand cousins.
The photo thing has been the big difference during my last few visits. That hasn't slightly changed, *it's close to over as it is w / Thai BGs. I'm sure if you BF them more than once their defenses will dissipate but I didn't have time for that nor the strength.
Another big change imv is the talent. Usually the best talent (IMO) is in Makati but I've noticed over my last couple of trips that's reversing and AC as the better lookers. Granted I've been in Makati a total of 4 full days and only managed a few bars. *I haven't been to kojaxes yet which is the epicenter of lookers imv. Bottoms I have been in and it's not what it used to be. Bottoms hh price is 2,100 too and I'm sure the BG will go for 2 K and their talent tops rogues. *I will try for bottoms in a couple of hours body willing.
So that's it for now. I hope my effort here helps some. I'll try and post a few pics later. This TR of mine is from another site so it includes both Makati and AC details. At least all info pertains to what's on the ground for monger's to enjoy and not some romance story about 1 or 2 hookers that live there.
For what it's worth.
I only have old stories to tell.
I go to Genesis at 2:50 am which is ten minutes before closing time. I know I only have ten minutes to decide. I have a waitress friend at Genesis, if you can call it that. I wouldn't trust any Filipino 100%. But I trust her 90%. Anyway, she comes over and tells me that I have only ten minutes. That was more than enough time for me because I had spotted a new dancer already. I tell the waitress friend to ask the new dancer barfine until lunchtime. The waitress friend brings the girl over. Her name is Christine. New girls usually are very quiet and sometimes look slightly dazed. They also have thick, bushy hair. (They haven't made enough money for the expensive hair salons yet.) The waitress friend tells the dancer that under no circumstances is she allowed to go home before lunchtime. I don't think the waitress would have ever said that to an experienced girl. The girl nods without hesitation, which was a good sign. When there was hesitation, they always ran. Anyway, the waitress friend made me feel protected. I think the barfine was 2,500 pesos then.
We are in the hotel now. I tell the girl to take a shower first. In my previous life, I was a part-time burglar and a full-time lover. So naturally I have to inspect her handbag. She has a lot of junk inside. Nothing fancy. I open her long purse. Inside, there is a picture of a young Filipino guy. While it could be a younger brother she is supporting, I'm going to go with boyfriend or maybe even husband back in the province.
After my shower, I ask for a BBBJ. She complies. After she finishes, she says, "Maybe you disappointed. " While she is inexperienced, I will give her plus points for her concern. I put on a condom although I think bareback would have been no problem for her. She has a nice clean shaved pussy. I have trouble entering her because her pussy is so small. Also, there seems to be some pain beyond the pleasure. I'm not sure which is greater. Then, I fall asleep.
After one or two hours, I wake up with a wooden pecker. Christine is lying there just watching me. I hear they sleep late like at 6 or 7 am. Anyway, I enter her again. Now, her screams of pain are greater. I cannot finish and go to the shower. When I return, she is sleeping.
After a few hours, I wake up again. I am not a demanding person. But I do fuck them when they are sleeping. Some girls resist vehemently. Christine does not. She seems to be in extreme pain. I'm expecting her to tell me to stop. But she still does not. Eventually, I stop because I cannot come. I pull out slowly. I look at my crotch area and the outside of the condom. It is covered in thick blood. In fact, it looks like a massacre. Oddly enough, her pussy is clean as whistle. No sign of bleeding whatsoever. The white towel beneath her is also clean. Only I am covered in blood. I must be the guilty one then. She goes back to sleep again.
Christine wakes up way past lunchtime. Like I say, they sleep in the morning and wake up in the afternoon. Most girls say, "Oh shit," and are out of there in 30 seconds. Christine gets ready to go very slowly. Now, this is where some girls blatantly demand a 1,000 peso tip or give you the "Now, give me my tip," look. With Christine, it is like she is waiting for my permission to go home. I give her 500 pesos and two boxes of chocolate I have saved for a girl like her. If they are good to me, I walk them out to the front door of the hotel so that they do not get stopped by hotel security. We are waiting for the elevator to head down to the lobby. Christine gently adjusts my hair. It is probably messy because I have not taken a full shower yet. I open the front door for her to exit. Security is not at the door this time. Christine turns around with a big smile and waves, "Bye".
Now, I turn around and head for the elevator. In the background, the hotel restaurant waitress sees me. I would love to sniff her panties as well. But I am not as skilled as some of the mongers in this forum. Anyway, she gives me this mischievous smile that says, "Naughty, naughty!" I guess that was my WOS moment. (Walk of Shame).
That evening I go to Genesis again. My waitress friend comes over and asks, "How was Christine?" I give her the thumbs up. She asks me, "Do you want to talk to her?" I say, "Sure!" Christine comes over and I'm thinking the moment she sees me she will accuse me of inciting internal vaginal tear on her. But she does not. In fact, she says, "When do I see you again?" I say, "Next time. " That is my last night. I probably should have barfined her again that night because I never saw her again. But if I had, I probably wouldn't be here talking about her.
A few months later, I'm in Genesis again. My waitress friend tells me, "Christine is on vacation in Samar. But she will be back next month." She never returned. I'm thinking she is in Samar with her Filipino husband. She did not look like the typical bargirl who was looking for a foreigner that would support her.
To this day, I am looking for my next Christine because they don't come like this anymore.
Naked Gunz
08-18-18, 03:12
Wow! GFE again in the Phils. Had a freelancer from High Society yesterday and she did not hold back on the passion. Just like the freelance I met on DIA in Manila. Hope this is common in AC, hehe!
Wow! GFE again in the Phils. Had a freelancer from High Society yesterday and she did not hold back on the passion. Just like the freelance I met on DIA in Manila. Hope this is common in AC, hehe!Either you are guapo (hansome) or they are ugly. I presume the former.
The GFE is powered by her access to your ATM. If the ATM begins to mal-function, the GFE will likewise mal function LOL.
Nothing wrong with that, so long as we do not delude ourselves that it is otherwise. My favourite ST destination. Phils.
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? Planning to stay 2-3 weeks and hope to change ladies every couple of days. Would like to get girls that are as non-pro as possible and not sure what city / cities to hit up for my game plan. I've heard that AC is best for P4 P girls and Manila is pricey so, is there a particular city where I should target the ladies? Prefer ladies 20-25 years old who willingly do bareback.
Thanks in advance.
NL.
William7011
08-19-18, 15:30
Headed to Angeles later this week. While I keep up on the postings here, I haven't seen many updates on the latest best bars? Any new recommendations on the best line ups to hit for a middle aged American guy. Thanks for any input.
StudBucket
08-19-18, 19:06
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? Planning to stay 2-3 weeks and hope to change ladies every couple of days. Would like to get girls that are as non-pro as possible and not sure what city / cities to hit up for my game plan. I've heard that AC is best for P4 P girls and Manila is pricey so, is there a particular city where I should target the ladies? Prefer ladies 20-25 years old who willingly do bareback.
Thanks in advance.
NL.For sure the best sites are Date in Asia and Filipino Cupid. The urls are www.dateinasia.com and www.filipinocupid.com. Date in Asia has the bonus that you do not have to pay or subscribe to send messages to a girl. With Filipino Cupid, you cannot send or reply to email messages unless you buy a month or more subscription. Hope this helps.
For sure the best sites are Date in Asia and Filipino Cupid. The urls are www.dateinasia.com and www.filipinocupid.com. Date in Asia has the bonus that you do not have to pay or subscribe to send messages to a girl. With Filipino Cupid, you cannot send or reply to email messages unless you buy a month or more subscription. Hope this helps.Not sure about the dateinasia site but I know filipinocupid charges you a fee to chat with the girls. Pinalove dot com lets you chat with the girls for free but only every ten minutes unless you buy a premium membership.
Headed to Angeles later this week. While I keep up on the postings here, I haven't seen many updates on the latest best bars? Any new recommendations on the best line ups to hit for a middle aged American guy. Thanks for any input.It's been about six months since I was last there but I suggest just hit every bar you can for a drink and you will soon find the "one that is right for you"!
Good luck and have fun!
Headed to Angeles later this week. While I keep up on the postings here, I haven't seen many updates on the latest best bars? Any new recommendations on the best line ups to hit for a middle aged American guy. Thanks for any input.Oh, if you had bought an ISG subscription IE PM facility, I would have been able to supply you some hot juicy info. PM me when you can. Nice reading all those informative posts of yours too, by the way. Best of luck.
William7011
08-20-18, 01:06
That's will be the strategy. Seek and I shall find. Will be there for a week so I am sure I'll find something to my liking.
It's been about six months since I was last there but I suggest just hit every bar you can for a drink and you will soon find the "one that is right for you"!
Good luck and have fun!
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? There's a seperate thread for dating site experiences, with the rather old fashioned title: Chat Rooms & Pen Pals. Tons of information and advice there.
By the way: it's no use to hit them up now already when you're going there later this year. They prefer men who are on the ground right now or will be on the ground very soon.
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? Planning to stay 2-3 weeks and hope to change ladies every couple of days. Would like to get girls that are as non-pro as possible and not sure what city / cities to hit up for my game plan. I've heard that AC is best for P4 P girls and Manila is pricey so, is there a particular city where I should target the ladies? Prefer ladies 20-25 years old who willingly do bareback.
Thanks in advance.
NL.There's a lot here (AC Forum) on dating sites and zero about drink and bar fine cost, zero about what bars have the best talent. The vibe of the town. The weather and if it's low season or high. You'd have to go back a few years before these PI Forums got screwed up due to the current crop of these well educated mongers. (there just sloppy is all).
As for cities that are good for dating sites I would assume Manila, Cebu, Davao, Dumaguete etc. But that's kindergarten info you should already know. But considering all the off-topic garbage filling up these forums I guess you have a good excuse not to know the simple stuff.
You mention Manila and AC. I guess you did not notice 4 post below yours is probably the only thorough AC ground report in the last 10 pages (just a guess, could be more). So I don't understand how you missed that post. Maybe time for some glasses?
Now my opinion on how to be a smart first timer. Do very little dating site action until you know the lay of the land. In my opinion guys save money w / dating sites but it's also hit and miss resulting in lost time, plus the women are not std tested. BGs are tested once a week.
In Manila and AC there are tons of FLs going from 1000 to 2000 pesos, Makati hotties maybe more. Compared to bar prices that's much cheaper, esp in Makati (financial center of Manila), Burgos Street to be exact.
Also the hottest women on this board's level are in the bars. Period! There are new ones, mid age and old so which group do you like? My last trip which ended 5 days ago I hooked up w a brand new Cebuana from Arcadia in AC. The whole night for the 3 K bar fine cost written down 4 post below yours. I've been around (8 years now) and the dating sites (8 out of 10 time) do not match what you find in the bars in AC or Makati, not close. If you have decent game than the discos are huge and deliver top lookers. I have a friend w / this mo and he takes lookers all the time. I hate him.
Everything else is 4 post below your original post. But you knew that. Right?
BrainDrain
08-20-18, 11:45
It's been about six months since I was last there but I suggest just hit every bar you can for a drink and you will soon find the "one that is right for you"!
Good luck and have fun!I've tried this strategy and after a few beers my standards drop considerably. These days I drink water in the bar because the beer is so cheap.
There's a seperate thread for dating site experiences, with the rather old fashioned title: Chat Rooms & Pen Pals. Tons of information and advice there.
By the way: it's no use to hit them up now already when you're going there later this year. They prefer men who are on the ground right now or will be on the ground very soon.I agree. They have very short attention spans, and you'll end up with a bird in your hand while she has two in her Bush. There is always someone richer, younger and more handsome than you that comes along before you arrive. Also, contacting them early gives more time for a "family emergency" to arise, or a "tuition due" date to pass which requires that you send them money. 2-7 days is enough lead time, particularly if you can give them a specific arrival date.
In addition to DateInAsia (which has its own link "below the line" on The Philippines page), PinayLove and FilipinoCupid, you may want to look at SeekingArrangement. SA is free to browse but is an $80 monthly membership to communicate. There is everything on SA from proclaimed "models" to the "simple" girls. But they seem to expect to be paid US prices, LOL. Free to check out but probably best to save that $80.
Headed to Angeles later this week. While I keep up on the postings here, I haven't seen many updates on the latest best bars? Any new recommendations on the best line ups to hit for a middle aged American guy. Thanks for any input.Today's hottest bar could be tomorrow's coldest. Today's coldest bar could be tomorrow's hottest bar.
One thing is certain: the girls look better towards closing time!
Mr Enternational
08-20-18, 17:00
I agree. They have very short attention spans, and you'll end up with a bird in your hand while she has two in her Bush. There is always someone richer, younger and more handsome than you that comes along before you arrive. Also, contacting them early gives more time for a "family emergency" to arise, or a "tuition due" date to pass which requires that you send them money. 2-7 days is enough lead time, particularly if you can give them a specific arrival date.I get on 2 days before and act like I am already there. Started talking to chicks on DIA 2 days ago asking when they had time for me. I am on the plane to PI now. When I land I will fire up WeChat and Tinder.
louise 7h, 52m ago
i have work mon. to sat. so i dont have time on wednesday
Headed to Angeles later this week. While I keep up on the postings here, I haven't seen many updates on the latest best bars? Any new recommendations on the best line ups to hit for a middle aged American guy. Thanks for any input.The start of Walking street (McDo) and the end of perimeter road (Clarkton hotel) is terretory of koreans.
Me as older and slim white they just don't see there.
For the rest its so depending how you are. What you look for, and these days how much money you trow in.
These days I would advice just to go early when a bar just opens (walking street from 6 pm, perimeter from 12 noon) or go High Society from 2 or am.
Cause I am older and I look for slim 22 years old also the SWs are asking top pessos.
If I would need a girl these days I would head to Paladium. Just a clean calm light friendly bar with affordable prices even for international beer. (I am not working there).
A lady who is willing to do bareback is willing to do bareback with all men she meets.
My experience is that most pinay don't think about tomorow.
And think each day they found the men of their dreams.
(so let you make a baby where you can pay for).
To realize next day that you don't match their dreams.
To drop you cold as ice.
Concerning the STD tests they get each week.
To be completely sure the girl (and you) are did not get a sickness during sex you need to wait 6 months after that sex.
So a STD test is saying something about the situation of 6 months ago.
So better to meet a someone who always uses condoms from both sides and wait till you find a real good match.
BTW I com 13 years in the phil. And stopped drinking beer. So my WOW time is over. I just stay with one sweet little girl.
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? Planning to stay 2-3 weeks and hope to change ladies every couple of days. Would like to get girls that are as non-pro as possible and not sure what city / cities to hit up for my game plan. I've heard that AC is best for P4 P girls and Manila is pricey so, is there a particular city where I should target the ladies? Prefer ladies 20-25 years old who willingly do bareback.
Thanks in advance.
NL.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Koreans and Korean money are certainly visible, and they are certainly changing the vibe of Angeles. This has pros and cons.
I just left Angeles and had a rather grand time in this so-called "territory of koreans". What is your nationality Retgilpo?
The start of Walking street (McDo) and the end of perimeter road (Clarkton hotel) is terretory of koreans.
There's a lot here (AC Forum) on dating sites and zero about drink and bar fine cost, zero about what bars have the best talent. The vibe of the town. The weather and if it's low season or high. You'd have to go back a few years before these PI Forums got screwed up due to the current crop of these well educated mongers. (there just sloppy is all).
Bar fine cost is quite often mentioned. Drink cost maybe not that much, but I'm pretty sure it will not suddenly double.
What bars have the best talent changes from day to day or even hour to hour, as we all know.
The vibe of the town? What vibe? We all know it's a shithole (which is actually mentioned quite a lot) that will most likely never get any better.
The weather? It's always hot. And probably rainy right now becaus it's the rainy season, as we all know.
Low season or high season? Come on, really?
So why would we want more field reports?
Chocha Monger
08-21-18, 17:32
A lady who is willing to do bareback is willing to do bareback with all men she meets.
My experience is that most pinay don't think about tomorow.
And think each day they found the men of their dreams.
(so let you make a baby where you can pay for).
To realize next day that you don't match their dreams..Conversely, one can also say, "A monger willing to do bareback is willing to bareback all hookers he fucks. " LOL! Only the most nave girls believe that a bareback monger is going to return to in nine months to pay for a baby, especially when he is delivering random cream-pies to all and sundry across Southeast Asia. Furthermore, the girls who do bareback receive scores of cream-pies from different transient mongers before they realize that one of them successfully seeded their black-lipped South Sea pearl oyster.
Then you have to take into account the bareback mongers who promise to "pull out" because they "cannot cum with condom" and then give the girls a surprise cream-pie right in the cervix during their ovulation. Many girls also drink too much with mongers and end up receiving multiple drunk cream-pies from one or more mongers, or a combination of monger and trike driver boyfriend cream-pie combo. Most girls will never be able to determine the biological father, much less figure out who pays for the baby. Many reports here of girls telling mongers that they are the daddy, only for paternity tests to prove otherwise.
Even if you fuck just one "sweet girl" bareback after STD testing, you are still at risk of catching STDs in your dick because once you let her out of sight she is going to be fucking her Pinoy boyfriend bareback, and possibly other mongers too if she lives in Pampanga, Manila, Cebu or any location with visiting sex tourists. Do not put your trust in a Pinay if you seriously want to remain STD-free. A good match has nothing to do with it. Just stick with your policy of 100% rubber on your willy 100% of the time because Pinays lie, and you may never know if you are sharing her pussy with other mongers until your dick gets sick. By then it is too late. Condom use has to be consistent to be effective; otherwise, you may as well go full bareback raw dawg. LOL!
Bar fine cost is quite often mentioned. Drink cost maybe not that much, but I'm pretty sure it will not suddenly double.
What bars have the best talent changes from day to day or even hour to hour, as we all know.
The vibe of the town? What vibe? We all know it's a shithole (which is actually mentioned quite a lot) that will most likely never get any better.
The weather? It's always hot. And probably rainy right now becaus it's the rainy season, as we all know.
Low season or high season? Come on, really?
So why would we want more field reports?I am not seeing what you are, maybe you can point me to the last post that mentions bar fine cost on Perimeter and Fields.
As for talent I agree it changes everyday but the bars that have it and the bars that don't remain that way for months not days. Each bar has a consistent line-up that last approximately 6 months. Day to day changes occur but these bars do not turn over all their BGs every week, it takes approximately 6 months (IMO) for a complete turn over so bar talent is a relevant issue that very few speak of here. I did because I'm old school and learned this years ago, the forum should be about current info, w / some off topic. Now it's the other way around, 90% off topic and a little current AC intel.
The weather is a bit of a stretch I admit but there are cooler months and aberrations during any time of year, so to me it's pertinent information. I've been there in rainy season and it was sunny everyday, maybe that's helpful to a few. The vibe of the town is also relevant (to me). Are the bars busy? Is there a lot of competition between customers? Are people generally happy or is there a lot of beggars and pickpockets about (more so than normal). Just life as a tourist in AC is interesting for me, more so then the long romance novel some guys like to write here.
The long romance reports bore the fuck out of me and do me no good, they belong somewhere else.
I decided to waste some time and went back 10 pages and most of the talk is about general dating sites, kudos / angst for a particular member, Malate Ground intel, Pegasus, mail boxes, Asian Rain, Manila KTVs. That's what 95% of the last 10 pages is about, off topic junk.
There's a little info about AC prices 10 pages back but nothing as detailed as my unappreciated report. I understand you don't like me knocking the AC Forum but (IMO) it needs to get back on track and away from the good ol boys club. That's my opinion for what it's worth and I know it's not much to you. Understood and I appreciate your way of debating the issue.
Out of 10 pages, these are helpful and relevant to AC intel. Posts. 22921,22928, 22929,22938, 22883,22878, 22870,22867, 22853,22852, and finally a little on prices, 22867. Now I'm a bit dyslexic so hope I'm spot on w / these post. The rest of the 10 pages is off topic buddy buddy shit. The PM system is good for the buddy buddy shit but guys rather clutter up an important forum like this one.
I guess my next effort to tell things as they are on the ground in AC will be lost in the mish mash (that goes on here). Most like it off topic so I guess it's good for everyone except those who would like to know the AC bar / street facts 2 weeks before their AC vacation. Too bad! No soup for you!
One guy PMed and said thanks for my effort to help. I'm glad you like it the way it is.
The BFs, drinks, transportation, talent levels, bars w good music, new bars, AC incidents that pertain to tourist, that's what this forum is about. At least that's what I thought it was about. As long as everyone here is happy w / the way it is so will I. I'll also know my contributions don't really belong here. Cool cool, enjoy yourselves, I'm happy.
Nice Guy 99
08-22-18, 02:07
Condom use has to be consistent to be effective; otherwise, you may as well go full bareback raw dawg. LOL!And I do, with many pinays and PRCs. I'm snipped so no little NGs. STD. VERY rarely and nothing serious. Feels so good.
...Out of 10 pages, these are helpful and relevant to AC intel. Posts. 22921,22928, 22929,22938, 22883,22878, 22870,22867, 22853,22852, and finally a little on prices, 22867. Now I'm a bit dyslexic so hope I'm spot on w / these post. The rest of the 10 pages is off topic buddy buddy shit. The PM system is good for the buddy buddy shit but guys rather clutter up an important forum like this one...Indeed, When I read the forum, I expect to find intel about current pricing, especially if things have changed.
The buddy exchange should use the PM channel and stay away from the forum.
I decided to waste some time and went back 10 pages and most of the talk is about general dating sites, kudos / angst for a particular member, Malate Ground intel, Pegasus, mail boxes, Asian Rain, Manila KTVs. That's what 95% of the last 10 pages is about, off topic junk.
There's a little info about AC prices 10 pages back but nothing as detailed as my unappreciated report. I understand you don't like me knocking the AC Forum but (IMO) it needs to get back on track and away from the good ol boys club. That's my opinion for what it's worth and I know it's not much to you. Understood and I appreciate your way of debating the issue.
Out of 10 pages, these are helpful and relevant to AC intel. Posts. 22921,22928, 22929,22938, 22883,22878, 22870,22867, 22853,22852, and finally a little on prices, 22867. Now I'm a bit dyslexic so hope I'm spot on w / these post. The rest of the 10 pages is off topic buddy buddy shit. The PM system is good for the buddy buddy shit but guys rather clutter up an important forum like this one.
I guess my next effort to tell things as they are on the ground in AC will be lost in the mish mash (that goes on here). Most like it off topic so I guess it's good for everyone except those who would like to know the AC bar / street facts 2 weeks before their AC vacation. Too bad! No soup for you!
One guy PMed and said thanks for my effort to help. I'm glad you like it the way it is.
The BFs, drinks, transportation, talent levels, bars w good music, new bars, AC incidents that pertain to tourist, that's what this forum is about. At least that's what I thought it was about. As long as everyone here is happy w / the way it is so will I. I'll also know my contributions don't really belong here. Cool cool, enjoy yourselves, I'm happy.You went back 10 pages, so that is until July 14. That's only about 5 weeks. If you go back half a year or so you will find plenty of information on all the subjects you mention.
However I agree with you there's quite a lot of off topic talk. But what is off topic for you is not necessarily off topic for me or other board members. And I think off topic talk is inevitable on a forum like this. Nevertheless I agree that if there was less off topic talk you wouldn't have to go back half a year to find what you're looking for. (But still a lot more than 5 weeks I think.).
Another problem is this (and I quote you): "Most like it off topic so I guess it's good for everyone except those who would like to know the AC bar / street facts 2 weeks before their AC vacation. "
I agree that it sucks if you come here only 2 weeks before your vacation and you have to go through 6 months of posts to find what you're looking for. But hey, why do you come here only 2 weeks before your vacation? If you read the forum on a regular basis it takes much less effort and time to collect useful information.
You went back 10 pages, so that is until July 14. That's only about 5 weeks. If you go back half a year or so you will find plenty of information on all the subjects you mention.
However I agree with you there's quite a lot of off topic talk. But what is off topic for you is not necessarily off topic for me or other board members. And I think off topic talk is inevitable on a forum like this. Nevertheless I agree that if there was less off topic talk you wouldn't have to go back half a year to find what you're looking for. (But still a lot more than 5 weeks I think.).
Another problem is this (and I quote you): "Most like it off topic so I guess it's good for everyone except those who would like to know the AC bar / street facts 2 weeks before their AC vacation. "
I agree that it sucks if you come here only 2 weeks before your vacation and you have to go through 6 months of posts to find what you're looking for. But hey, why do you come here only 2 weeks before your vacation? If you read the forum on a regular basis it takes much less effort and time to collect useful information.Let's new forum. Non mongering off topic forum. Then we can move this to it. Then ISG can remain on purpose.
While we are at it, CM can have his own bs forum.
Let's new forum. Non mongering off topic forum. Then we can move this to it. Then ISG can remain on purpose.Unfortunately that won't work I'm afraid. I live in Holland and a popular Dutch forum tried this. They tried to keep the forum on topic as much as possible by deleting or moving all off topic talk in the posts. Within a few months the forum almost died. People like to talk freely and don't like to see their posts deleted or edited all the time. The 'buddy buddy shit' as Socker calls it is important and makes the forum more fun. If all posts have to be strictly on topic a forum gets boring rather quickly.
While we are at it, CM can have his own bs forum.Now that's a good one. He and some other trolls are the exceptions as far as I'm concerned.
But hey, why do you come here only 2 weeks before your vacation? If you read the forum on a regular basis it takes much less effort and time to collect useful information.That is sound advice. Before my first trip to AC it took about three weeks of on and off reading to go through about 500 pages of reports. After that it has been easier to keep tabs on current talk.
Also, a lot of off-topic chatter gets put into perspective and you start to see the reason for its existence. ISG is not only a forum for exchanging info, it has grown to be a community of sorts.
If you read the forum on a regular basis it takes much less effort and time to collect useful information.It's called homework and if you don't do it you may fail.
Mr Enternational
08-22-18, 17:48
Because some members were curious about the KTV prices in Malate.
I didn't go inside, but I talked to the male hosts standing outside. And this is what they told me.
500 Pesos. All-you-can-drink for 2 hours (You cannot order just one beer.).
300 Pesos. Request fee (That is for saying to a girl, "Hey Baby, sit next to me."
300 Pesos. Ladies Drink.
Now, it gets crazier here.
Mandatory 12% Tourist Tax Surcharge.
Mandatory 10% Service Charge.
Then, I tried to talk to the dude from the KTV next door and he said, "Sir, it's the same system at all Malate KTV's. " Then, I guess, case closed. So basically, it will cost you over 1,300 Pesos to have a drink with a lady of your choice.
I didn't inquire about the sok sok prices. But they must be huge.A chick stopped me tonight in Malate trying to get me to go into a KTV. I took a picture of the card she had which is pretty much the same as the prices you stated.
BrainDrain
08-23-18, 00:48
Great to see the Forum enjoying the banter about the happenings in AC.
Life here is "busy" with options. Bar prices are ranging from P2500 - P3800 in the bars I have enquired. Girl quality looks really good. Punter numbers are low. Usual groups of vets, Koreans, Indians etc.
Friday night started at Envy. Good food here. My night kicked on, visited quite a few bars, a massage place and drank too many bars.
Sunday night at Phillies was fun. Met up with a pinalove contact. Good fun, good food. Ended up letting her go.
My pecker is being well attended at home by the uni student who wants to keep returning. Some days and nights it's just easier to take the freebie.
I have had to turn down a few good offers from other girls, especially the E Cup girl who urgently needs attention.
If there are forum-credentialed mongers in AC this week who want to meet Miss E Cups please PM me.
Happy days.
BD.
Not a newbie to the hobby (see my stateside posts in the Atlanta thread) but new to the Phils. I plan on going there later this year for the first time. What's the best "dating" site to hit them up and get friendly so they're ripe to fuck when I get there? Planning to stay 2-3 weeks and hope to change ladies every couple of days. Would like to get girls that are as non-pro as possible and not sure what city / cities to hit up for my game plan. I've heard that AC is best for P4 P girls and Manila is pricey so, is there a particular city where I should target the ladies? Prefer ladies 20-25 years old who willingly do bareback.
Thanks in advance.
NL.All the popular sites are OK and each has it's pluses and minuses. Often you will find same girls on more than one site.
Pinalove would be my suggestion, just start a week or so before you get here and make contacts, pay for an account so you are not flagged as a cheap charlie and can send unlimited messages.
I have also gad good luck on Tinder recently.
SA is costly to use and not as many escorts for the night but girls looking for4 long term arrangements.
Chitown212
08-23-18, 09:13
All the popular sites are OK and each has it's pluses and minuses. Often you will find same girls on more than one site.
Pinalove would be my suggestion, just start a week or so before you get here and make contacts, pay for an account so you are not flagged as a cheap charlie and can send unlimited messages.
I have also gad good luck on Tinder recently.
SA is costly to use and not as many escorts for the night but girls looking for4 long term arrangements.Hello,
What city are you supposed to search in PinaLove? I don't see Angeles City and the closest I could find was the state of Pampangas but there wasn't many girls there.
I haven't actually been to subic but it's a downgrade from what I was aiming for. I was planning on renting a car and going to Baler but my choice resort is fully booked.
Any other quality beaches with luxury resorts worth the distance from Angeles?
Thanks.
I haven't actually been to subic but it's a downgrade from what I was aiming for. I was planning on renting a car and going to Baler but my choice resort is fully booked.
Any other quality beaches with luxury resorts worth the distance from Angeles?
Thanks.There is nothing nice close.
You can go north to 100 islands (OK).
Very north to Pagutpud (very nice).
South to Puerto Galera or Sbanang (ok, with diving spots).
Or fly somewhere really nice!
Living Right
08-23-18, 20:11
Was walking past Phillies when I was approached to buy Cialis. After responding more than once, no not needed, and his persistent reply of I give you good price I got curious what the price might be so I asked how much. For you my friend only 500 for a 2 pack. I laughed and said OK but no thanks. He asked how much I would pay and I offered 100. He said he makes no money at 100 and countered at 300. I said no, my offer was 100. A couple more exchanges and we did agree to 2 2 packs for 300.
I did take one out of curiosity but honestly can't tell if it was the medicine that helped or the honey I was with but a good time was had that night.
Other times I was approached I tested the pricing and the 2 for 300 seems to be the bottom line rate.
Fast Eddie 48
08-23-18, 20:59
I haven't actually been to subic but it's a downgrade from what I was aiming for. I was planning on renting a car and going to Baler but my choice resort is fully booked.
Any other quality beaches with luxury resorts worth the distance from Angeles?
Thanks.To Dante 702.
The beach around Subic city is no very good diving for marine life is also poor but many wreck around since the Spanish American war and world war ii, I been to Boracay 18 yr ago but the tourist screw it up no good any more, Cebu is OK not great you really need to go away from the Tourist place nice Palawan or Bohol Panglo island have nice beach not many tourist.
If you short in time go to Batangas, white beach or Alona beach is OK not great just short trio from Manila just 3 HR bus and ferry.
Fast Eddie 48.
Anyone hang out at the Raymond St. Drinking establishments after dark?
How are they?
Fun, slow, worth a walk towards the little church at that time?
People like to talk freely and don't like to see their posts deleted or edited all the time. The 'buddy buddy shit' as Socker calls it is important and makes the forum more fun. If all posts have to be strictly on topic a forum gets boring rather quickly.I think we all want the same thing, important information where we can find it.
As it is now the AC Forum is a mess and I know you think it's reasonable for an experienced guy like me to have to look back at 6 months of posts to find what's going on in AC now. I don't agree w / this but if that's how guys (here) want it then it must be the alright (here). So guys like me will go elsewhere for current information and to post current information / pics.
I think going back a couple of weeks to a month should provide me w / some actionable intel but (here) it doesn't. Why? Because there's no discipline to stay close to the pertinent topic of AC details. I'm not saying it should be strictly enforced but everyone posting should automatically know why they're on the AC Forum. To talk about AC and things that are directly connected to AC. If things go astray someone should occasionally straighten it out before it becomes commonplace, which it already has.
In the PG Forum where PI pics are the number 1 topic it stays that way. The focus on pics is policed because there's always at least one guy making sure it doesn't become a chat forum. We all know who the boss of the PI PG Forum is and he does a great service to it. That should be happening here too. 80% of what goes on in the AC Forum is general topic stuff. It should not be in the AC Forum period. Correcting this does not stop the fun or lessen it. It just makes finding important info (when you need it) easy. It's really gotten bad here so I mentioned it as have others in the past.
I appreciate your pov and like you I want all the fun I can get. This forum used to enhance that but now it's a mess of off topic mumbo jumbo.
I posted a AC TR and not one here gave me the time of day for it. Why?? I guess it doesn't belong here LOL. I screwed up guys. Sorry!
Another problem. I just tried to upload pics of a AC bar girl in action but the IGS system won't let me. I reduced the size 3 times but still no deal. Too bad.
Okay, cheers.
This forum is all about AC pussy. Vaginas. Poon. How, when, where and how much?
Reports on actual experiences is where it is at.
Was walking past Phillies when I was approached to buy Cialis. After responding more than once, no not needed, and his persistent reply of I give you good price I got curious what the price might be so I asked how much. For you my friend only 500 for a 2 pack. I laughed and said OK but no thanks. He asked how much I would pay and I offered 100. He said he makes no money at 100 and countered at 300. I said no, my offer was 100. A couple more exchanges and we did agree to 2 2 packs for 300.
I did take one out of curiosity but honestly can't tell if it was the medicine that helped or the honey I was with but a good time was had that night.
Other times I was approached I tested the pricing and the 2 for 300 seems to be the bottom line rate.You are a newbie here. It has been posted before that you really don't know what you are buying on the street.
You can easily buy generics from the local pharmacies at the same prices. Just ask at the counter “generic Viagra __ mg please, 4 pieces”.
My free advice, to continue living right do not buy or use street vitamins.
To Dante 702.
The beach around Subic city is no very good diving for marine life is also poor but many wreck around since the Spanish American war and world war ii, I been to Boracay 18 yr ago but the tourist screw it up no good any more, Cebu is OK not great you really need to go away from the Tourist place nice Palawan or Bohol Panglo island have nice beach not many tourist.
If you short in time go to Batangas, white beach or Alona beach is OK not great just short trio from Manila just 3 HR bus and ferry.
Fast Eddie 48.I was at Alona beach 6 months ago and the place was absolutely chaotic. The beach (what beach?) is full of boats begging to take you to the islets. The islets were stunning though, but still a tourist trap. But if you really want to try Bohol, IMHO you stay away from Alona.
Soapy Smith
08-24-18, 16:21
You are a newbie here. It has been posted before that you really don't know what you are buying on the street. You can easily buy generics from the local pharmacies at the same prices.
My free advice, to continue living right do not buy or use street vitamins.I concur. Generic viagra and cialis can be purchased at a number of pharmacies at reasonable prices. Those that I have bought never failed. With street vendors there are no guarantees. Lots of information available in the "Viagra Dialogue" down below in the user blogs.
Mr Enternational
08-25-18, 00:02
As it is now the AC Forum is a mess and I know you think it's reasonable for an experienced guy like me to have to look back at 6 months of posts to find what's going on in AC now.Seems like trip reports would matter less to an experienced guy. He already knows the ropes and has developed his own method of doing things.
I was at Alona beach 6 months ago and the place was absolutely chaotic. The beach (what beach?) is full of boats begging to take you to the islets. The islets were stunning though, but still a tourist trap. But if you really want to try Bohol, IMHO you stay away from Alona.I went to Bohol for scuba diving a couple of years ago and that place sucked as far as beaches go. I have been to plenty of locations in PI for scuba diving, and so far the best beach has been at Boracay. For best beach I look at the sand and water, and not at the other people that are going there.
Greetings.
Planning a trip to AC in a few months. The last time I was there and stayed at ABC HOTEL they were constructing the roof top club aqua.
I saw the pics and they look amazing. Has anyone tried it. What's the deal. Can you pick up girls there is it like a standard bar. They have private cabanas etc and you can bring the girls there. Do you bring your own girls or is it like the bars on fields?
There hasn't been much written about Aqua in the forum as I went back a few pages to look for any IP.
Enjoy.
G.
Mr Enternational
08-25-18, 05:28
Planning a trip to AC in a few months. The last time I was there and stayed at ABC HOTEL they were constructing the roof top club aqua.
I saw the pics and they look amazing. Has anyone tried it. What's the deal. Can you pick up girls there is it like a standard bar. They have private cabanas etc and you can bring the girls there. Do you bring your own girls or is it like the bars on fields?
There hasn't been much written about Aqua in the forum as I went back a few pages to look for any IP.Actually there has been plenty written on Aqua. Instead of going back pages, try using the search function. That being said, I never got a chance to write up my report from January on the place, so this is for you Gunners.
Me and a Tinder chick that works at a call center went up to Aqua late one afternoon. ABC, top floor I think it was. There was a round desk with a turnstyle on one side. If I remember correctly, the cashier put writstbands on us, oh yeah, with a number that everything is charged to. The girl got in free but I had to pay 500 pesos. In the end 500 was subtracted from the bill for consumables though.
We sat at the bar. First we tried to sit on some couches though and were told that you have to spend at least 4000 to sit there. I think it was 8000 for the cabanas. There were guys in one cabana with some rent-a-chicks. It seemed to be someone's birthday because they had a big ass sheet cake and stuff. Some of the dudes and chicks would go to the pool to swim at times. There was also a live DJ.
Night rolled in and with it came a chick that appeared to be someone. I figured she was either the owner or the owner's daughter. She was pretty elegant and her presence commanded respect. Her clothes, shoes, and bag were definitely neither cheap nor knockoffs. She was tall and sexy but had a big ass Wicked Witch of the West nose. Seriously, I have never seen a chick like this in AC. She told the bartender what she wanted to drink. He mixed it in a blender and gave it to her without ringing anything up. Then she would go around just checking stuff out. Everybody would smile and greet her.
Me and my girl left after having 2 drinks each. The bill when we got back to the big round desk ended up being 600 pesos. I didn't see any chicks to pick up in there. The time that we were there a couple more mixed groups (middle class Filipino men and women) came in and sat on the sofas and ordered stuff. Other than that it seemed to be just guys that were staying at the hotel.
GoodEnough
08-25-18, 08:36
Actually there has been plenty written on Aqua. Instead of going back pages, try using the search function. That being said, I never got a chance to write up my report from January on the place, so this is for you Gunners.
Me and a Tinder chick that works at a call center went up to Aqua late one afternoon. ABC, top floor I think it was. There was a round desk with a turnstyle on one side. If I remember correctly, the cashier put writstbands on us, oh yeah, with a number that everything is charged to. The girl got in free but I had to pay 500 pesos. In the end 500 was subtracted from the bill for consumables though.
We sat at the bar. First we tried to sit on some couches though and were told that you have to spend at least 4000 to sit there. I think it was 8000 for the cabanas. There were guys in one cabana with some rent-a-chicks. It seemed to be someone's birthday because they had a big ass sheet cake and stuff. Some of the dudes and chicks would go to the pool to swim at times. There was also a live DJ.
Night rolled in and with it came a chick that appeared to be someone. I figured she was either the owner or the owner's daughter. She was pretty elegant and her presence commanded respect. Her clothes, shoes, and bag were definitely neither cheap nor knockoffs. She was tall and sexy but had a big ass Wicked Witch of the West nose. Seriously, I have never seen a chick like this in AC. She told the bartender what she wanted to drink. He mixed it in a blender and gave it to her without ringing anything up. Then she would go around just checking stuff out. Everybody would smile and greet her.
Me and my girl left after having 2 drinks each. The bill when we got back to the big round desk ended up being 600 pesos. I didn't see any chicks to pick up in there. The time that we were there a couple more mixed groups (middle class Filipino men and women) came in and sat on the sofas and ordered stuff. Other than that it seemed to be just guys that were staying at the hotel.Chances are the girl you saw, and there are now several like her, was there as a "guest" of the bar. Jerry, the manager knows that pretty women draw in the men, and so he's recruited a few reasonably elegant looking women to come hang around. I have no idea if they're available or not, but there are lots and lots of freelancers who frequent the place from early evening onward.
GE.
Mr Enternational
08-25-18, 08:50
Chances are the girl you saw, and there are now several like her, was there as a "guest" of the bar. Jerry, the manager knows that pretty women draw in the men, and so he's recruited a few reasonably elegant looking women to come hang around. I have no idea if they're available or not, but there are lots and lots of freelancers who frequent the place from early evening onward.
GE.But it was like this woman was going around inspecting things making sure they were running right. She was not just there for decoration.
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