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Admin
01-01-05, 02:00
Thread Starter.

FoxesHunter
01-01-05, 15:34
Duniawala,
I ask you a easy question:
Is it clever a prostitute or a girl fallen in love for you for making a fuck?

Malibook
01-01-05, 18:00
Is it clever a prostitute or a girl fallen in love for you for making a fuck?This is an easy question?

How can this be an easy question to answer when it doesn't even make sense?

Erik
01-01-05, 18:12
Well, I don't know if that has any scientific ground, but from a serious and patient experimentation over the years I can certify that Vietnam and Indonesian girls are definitly better at BJ than Thai or Chinese.

Coupler
01-01-05, 23:12
I'll be arriving in Pattaya on February 1, staying for an indefinite period, probable a month to six weeks.

My plan is to rent a condo or nice room, to look once I'm in Pattaya.

I just want a hotel for a few days or a week while I'm looking.

But I tried e-mailing a couple of hotels and their saying that they're "fully booked" already.

Does anyone have any advice for me about this?

Duniawala
01-01-05, 23:19
Duniawala,
I ask you a easy question:
Is it clever a prostitute or a girl fallen in love for you for making a fuck?

I am sorry, but your question does not make any grammatical sense. If it was an insult you first need to write correctly. If not, then you still need to write correctly.

Erik, thanks for the obsevation. I had three memorable BJs in my life so far. 1 American , 1 Balinese, and 1 Thai. All others have been good, average and useless regardless of ethnicity or country. So that was the reason for my question.

FoxesHunter
01-01-05, 23:59
>I am sorry, but your question does not make any grammatical sense. If it >was an insult you first need to write correctly. If not, then you still need to >write correctly.

I'm sorry fo my bad english: I don't like to insult anybody.
I repeat with other words.
I think is it better to fuck a girl who loves you and therefore she like to fuck with you.
In my opinion the prostitutes don't know to give a exciting sex.
In Indonesia many gilrs love you, sure it is a game but it looks like a reality.

Duniawala
01-02-05, 01:48
To answer your questions.

I think is it better to fuck a girl who loves you and therefore she like to fuck with you./: Yes you are probably correct that if a girl loves you, she will fuck better than most hos


In my opinion the prostitutes don't know to give a exciting sex./: However, a professional ho will probably fuck you better as she has the need for repeated income.

In Indonesia many gilrs love you, sure it is a game but it looks like a reality./: Believe me and the others that a Thai BG know this game better than anywhere else in the world.

SirHumpsaLott
01-02-05, 09:10
Stayed at this hotel for the first part of my trip:

HOME CHARUENSUK
303 M.9 Nongprue, Pattaya
Banglamung, Chonburi 20260
Tel: 038-360464-5
Fax: 038-360097

Nice, low key place not too far from the action and peaceful. Within walking distance to the Festival Center and Soi 6. Rooms are large and spacious with A/C, color tv, bathroom/shower unit, and queen size bed. Family owned place and they really know how to make a guy feel at home. The owner is Dutch and married to thai girl whose family also lives there but they are pretty unobtrusive. Girl friendly (I had several overnite guests and they didn't bat an eye) and they will even cook dinner for you if you want, you just have to buy the food. They will also do laundry and you can either rent motorbikes/cycles for travel from them or one of them will gladly take you where you wish to go.

Anyway, great place that I think is not too known so you may yet still be able to book a room there. Only 600B per day.

Good luck!


I'll be arriving in Pattaya on February 1, staying for an indefinite period, probable a month to six weeks.

My plan is to rent a condo or nice room, to look once I'm in Pattaya.

I just want a hotel for a few days or a week while I'm looking.

But I tried e-mailing a couple of hotels and their saying that they're "fully booked" already.

Does anyone have any advice for me about this?

Member #2984
01-03-05, 13:55
Marriott Spa and Resort has a decent daily rate available for $99/day. I have stayed there many times and enjoy their staff and hospitality. I called them prior to see if they would give a monthly rate and indicated will discount down to $69/night on a long stay basis, (aka 1mo+) which I was happy to take advantage of.

http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/PYXMC

Enjoy and be safe.

SAM

Pahllus Maximus
01-04-05, 03:44
I need a hotel with in room internet access that is below $US 100 per night so I can post my pix to this board (grin).

Need I add that it should be girl friendly ?

My plan is two girls full time supplemented by extras

Nauskas
01-06-05, 15:25
Has anyone noticed a reduction in traffic ?

Figured there might be a drop in travel considering everyone i know has canceled their SE Asia trips.

Plan to be there sometime in Feb, so anyone interested in joint planning, please message me.

Speed Touch
01-06-05, 23:44
Hey coupler,

If you don't pre book a hotel I don't think its much of a problem. When you get there get the taxi driver to take you around till you find one you like. I personally recommend the dynasty inn.

Walking in gets you a better deal normally and you can see the room before you plump for it.

ST


I'll be arriving in Pattaya on February 1, staying for an indefinite period, probable a month to six weeks.

My plan is to rent a condo or nice room, to look once I'm in Pattaya.

I just want a hotel for a few days or a week while I'm looking.

But I tried e-mailing a couple of hotels and their saying that they're "fully booked" already.

Does anyone have any advice for me about this?

Latina Passion
01-07-05, 18:04
What is the best Soapy in Pattaya and where are the Russians bave' shanging out at and what are they asking for ST and LT?

Will be in pussy haven from 01/18/05 to 01/23/05 any Brothers new to Pussy haven drop me a line or any other of my monger Brother's!

Will be staying at the White Rose near Walking ST. my Thai g/f booked it for $650 saud the place was just remodeled!

Horatio
01-08-05, 04:11
Dear folks,

I am here in Pattaya on something of a budget so I dont spend a lot of money. I have been going to the Beach Club in Pattaya 2 or 3 times a week for the past month. There are 2 women there who when they see me always come over and sit with me. I will usually buy each one a drink and tip each one 100 Baht over the course of the evening. This works out to less than $5 to each woman. They usually spend at least a 2 - 4 hours with me and are quite affectionate. They must know I am not a big spender as they have sat with me at least half a dozen times and I never tip a lot. My question is why? Is 200 baht a meaningful amount of money to them? Do they have to meet a certain quota for getting lady drinks bought? I know it could be they enjoy the company, except I am a pretty quiet person and we mostly just sit there taking in the scenery. Please dont write back that I am a cheap so and so, as they are certianly free not to sit with me if they dont want to, right?

Thanks for any replies,

Horatio

Coupler
01-08-05, 13:26
Has anyone noticed a reduction in traffic ?

Figured there might be a drop in travel considering everyone i know has canceled their SE Asia trips.Do any of those people happen to be mongers planning a trip to Pattaya?

I doubt it.

Everyone thanks for the advice on the hotels.

More at ease now.

Zos68
01-10-05, 03:49
Hi Guys,

Well I finally made it over here.

I'll include extra details in the report as they may help someone.

I booked a package deal through Qantas via my local travel agent. The whole thing cost about $3500AU. That includes flights from remote Australia to the nearest major city domestically (and this generally costs a lot in Australia) and return flight to Bankok via Singapore on Singapore airlines. Transfers form airport to hotel and 12 nights at Dusit Resort Pattaya.

In total, including waits for transfering flights, a trip of 24hrs one-way.
No major issues with any of the flights. If you check in at a remote location that has a Qantas desk they book you all the way through to Bankok including boarding passes for each flight so you don't have to wait at transfer desks ect. The next time you see your luggage is at the destination.
Singapore airport is great. Well layed out and very user friendly.

Was pretty tired by the time we landed in Bankok and the drinks I had at the Singapore airport and on the plane didn't help.

Bankok airport is complete crap!! They have a golf course going straight across the taxi-way with a stop light to tell golfers that a jet is about to go through. The golfers were waiting about 10m away from the jets outer wing talking on a mobile phone!! They also gave us metal knives. First I've seen this since 9/11.
Inside the terminal is controled chaos. Given I'd gone without sleep for so long it was pretty hard to deal with lines 30m long and I'd forgotten to fill in my arrival card :(

At the exit to the airport I thought I'd meet a guy with a sign to take me to the hotel. There are about 200 guys with signs and some are so far back in the crowd that you have to search to find them. Lots of people hassle you for cabs but I'm a bit used to this so its not a worry. After 10 mins of searching I give up and take a cab/limo instead for 1850 baht. In my slightly drunk and extremely tired state I figured it was well worth it. The car looked good and the driver seemed ok.

We took the motor-way and I think there were at least 3 toll points that were included in the charge at 55baht each I think.
The ride out to the hotel was totally insane. Packed traffic and the driver was doing at least 40km over the limit the whole way. I'm ok with the bike traffic in Bali but this involved dodging trucks with no use of the breaks. For about 5 minutes the guy was going at 140k on the wrong side of the road. Some people pay a lot of money for a ride in a fighter jet... just take a taxi :)

The guy tried to take me to another hotel (a total crap place) but once I told them that I'd already paid for my stay they took me to the right place with no dramas. The place they took me to was opposite a big white building called Pattaya Massage Palour but not sure what it was called.

Got to Dusit and unloaded my stuff and the driver asked me to sign a form saying I was here in one piece and that all my stuff was ok. It all looked ok so I signed. After getting out of the cab one of the hotel guys said "don't forget this"... It was by bum-bag with my passport, credit cards, and about 25000baht !!! This hotel so far has payed for itself.

Getting to the hotel room I was very impressed. Its a 5 star place at the north end of Beach road. In room safes and all my stuff was put there.

I tried to sleep but couldn't so a bit of a walk around town. Going south up beach road you see the beach (about 10m of it) covered with umbrellas a bit like a south of France sort of place. Not many english speaking people at all except the Thais. You can still get a beer on the beach though. It struck me the amount of older people and kids there.

The place is not really clean and the smog is intense. I'm looking at the beach now at 9am local and you can't see the horison. Maybe only 500m out.

Anyway back to the real reason for posting...

After not being able to sleep I went for a walk. I figured just walk from Soi 1 to Soi 17 in 11 days and I should cover it.

Soi 1 looked dead at about 3pm but I found a place on Soi 2 called Happy Night Bar and stopped for a few beers and 2 games of pool. A nice girl was offering but...

Headed around to Soi 3 and a few nice girls. Also had a talk with this European guy at the bar. He seems to agree with S.A. He agreed with pretty much everything I've put in this report as well.

Bar fine at Soi 2 was 200b and tip 800+b but I didn't take it. At Soi 3 was 200b and I brought the girl back to my hotel. 1800b tip because I have the cash and she tried to give me GFE (meaning I had to "pick her up" "get her to get her gear off" and no bj at all. When she started talking about my drinking and smoking.......fuck that, I don't want a wife).

The Dusit seems GF and the rooms are great. No charge for extras.

I'll post general observations in 2 weeks. Again I hope you guys don't flame me for getting things wrong over here. Often detailed posts by a first timer are the best to help people and even warnings don't prepare you for the real thing :)

Regards

Zos

Zos68
01-11-05, 06:16
Just another note guys.

I checked out Walking street for most of the day. There was a cricket match on back in Australia that I wanted to see so I finally found a bar that was showing it. For those sports fans among us it seems pretty easy to get good coverage in at least a few of the bars here. The Irish bar at the south end of Walking Street didn't have the cricket but had at least 5 sports channels.

Since I tried a bar girl last night I figured a go-go girl might be better. After watching most of the sport I went across the road and found a place that looked interesting. Can't remember the name but it had about 10 bars in the one building. Its funny but one of them had about 20 girls "serving drinks".
The girly-boy bars are obviously the ones with the least people.

Had a couple of games of pool at what was probably one of these "other" bars. It was fun really because I'm obviously straight and they didn't hassle me at all (probably let me win as well).

At about 11pm I went to the first go-go bar I came to. Living Dolls I think.
The place was mostly empty except for the 20 girls on stage and a few guys sitting with beers. I know from previous reports in the forum that you have to get a girls attention and ask her over ect but..... not really my style if I'm paying! I was pretty pissed off when I left that place and was thinking about how that many girls could dance, mostly naked, for so few punters, and not have to make the effort themselves?

Anyway after leaving the first place I didn't give up. The next place was a short walk north and had the same name I think. There were more people there and I asked a guy what the story was. It seems he was the boss of the place and helped me out a lot. Basically point at a girl and she is yours. 800baht bar fine though... oh well, I picked one anyway.

She tried the same shit once we were back to the hotel. "GFE" hehe basically. I said "no BBBJ your on your way" and that seemed to work.
The level of commitment was low and although she stayed overnight and didn't get up till 11am (wasn't into an early morning repeat). Not happy but still payed her pretty well. No idea what her name was. (S.A. will be happy).

Shopping for clothes yesterday as I assumed it would be pretty much like Bali. Turn up with an empty suitcase and just buy stuff. It seems prices here are much higher but the brand names might actually be true (or closer to true).

Dusit Resort really is GF and the service is GREAT!!

More reports later but I'm not taking girl pics this trip. I have my camera but after reading S.A's page I probably agree.

zos

Latina Passion
01-12-05, 04:35
First of all: ZOS nice post I look forward to reading more of your adventures!

My Boyz and I will be hitting the beach on the 17th.

Where are the Russians hanging out and how much are they asking? Yes I know that I'm headed to Thailand so why am I inquiring about Russians?

Well; it will be a few years before I get a chance to Monger over there so i might as well get a little sample!

Thanking you in advance,

Latina Passion!

Zos68
01-12-05, 06:18
Well 3 nights so far and 3 girls :)

Got this one from Suzies go-go on beach road. Its on the north end and a bit closer to "home" and is more of a beer bar than a go-go. This girl is a type 3.

Type 1 = GFE but not good in bed and is happy to leave
Type 2 = Total pro, asks to get payed and leaves
Type 3 = GFE, good in bed and doesn't want to leave.

The deal yesterday was initially ST and all went well. 200 BF and pay on performance. Sadly, of the 3 girls I've tried here, none have given a really first class BJ. After taking this girl back to her work it seems they had a party going with pig on the spit ect so I stayed on for a few hours. After quite a few beers I'm thinking its time to go so start to head out and the girl from the afternoon just followed me. After an overnighter and a repeat in the morning she just didn't seem to be keen on leaving. I was very nice about it and just said that she better go home as I had things to do. She seemed to be nearly crying. Must have been an act I'm guessing. I did get her phone number in case I don't find anything better.

I can see why its not cool to be walking around the streets "shopping" during the day. They speak little English so can't really help showing you around. There are so many old, fat Europian guys (sorry guys but thats just an honest opinion) here that its a bit of a joke.

Since I havn't taken any pictures as yet lets just say that all the girls I'm into are 20-30 years and 8's or better. I've been paying these girls pretty well basically because I can afford it and if your staying in a really good hotel they probably realise this.

A note on getting around: There are nearly no "cabs" here but trucks go by all the main roads every 30 seconds. Just hail one and jump in the back. Prices are shown in the back. I know guys, this is pretty basic info but for people who are thinking of coming here it means that you don't have to worry about getting ripped off by cabbies.

I find it funny that they actually have pedistrian crossings marked here. The traffic won't stop for people so why waste the paint. I mentioned this to the girl last night and she said there have been many deaths.

A note on money: It could be that I'm getting less carefull about security (and one day that could bite me as it nearly did) but I didn't do the travelers checks thing this time or on my last trip to Asia. I used an ATM here for the first time this morning and got 10000baht out in one go with no worries. A good electronic room safe seems ok. The girls havn't tried to rip me off yet.

I'm yet to see one of these fishbowl places here (I've seen them in Amsterdam). I'll have to read back through the forum to find a good one. I'll put a kareoke bar on the list as well I suppose (I like girls who can sing).

If you can't get layed in this place you would have to be blind, have no legs and not be able to speak. Thats only because you would have trouble walking out the front door, and not be able to order room service.

Since there have been no comments so far I'll take it that the basic info is correct and possibly good for helping people. Full reports seem rare here so I'm at least having a go :)

zos

Duniawala
01-12-05, 17:56
Well Zos68, let's sum up your experience so far.

You got off the plane drunk, did not fill out your forms and had to stand in line for immigration/customs clearance. No wonder you could not find your contact for the hotel at the airport.

You almost missed your pack of money, passport etc. because of your state and you are worried getting ripped off by the bar girls. Let me assure you that you are more likely to get robbed on the streets than a bar girl stealing your money.

You complain about no one approach you at the gogo bar and you had been paying for the drinks(?). Must have been something about you (no flame intended) that made these girls NOT approach you.

I am sorry you are having a lousy time (except for your hotel) but I can assure you that if you take that chip off your shoulder and smile a lot you sure can have a much better time in Pattaya. Remember that these girls work on their own. They like you they go with you, sometimes money is not the issue.

Good luck and try to have fun. Remember SA advice is good but do it with a happy face.

BTW Nothing personal, but the word is spelt "laid" not "layed". And most people who write here spell it the wrong way, too

Dinghy
01-12-05, 23:20
Zos - the baht-bus fare is 10B (yeah, I know it's 5 for Thai and farang krai ahrn pasa Thai, let him pay the 10 since he "read the sign")

The other alternative is to go by "moto-sai" (the motorbike taxi) it costs about the same but if you want to go longer distance, just ask first (farther costs more - 2nd road/soi 13 to north bound bus station is about 30B. Bahtbus will go too, for just a bit more money)

Look around and you will see the taxi to the airport for 800B for your return. They are trustworthy and relaible

Your clothes buying experience must have been at a mall (big C?) - otherwise you need to find out where the markets are and go there. Not expensive stuff, just practical. Cargo shorts 200B, cotton short sleeve shirts about the same, underwear maybe 30B/pair etc etc. Just a matter of knowing where to go. Avoid the area around "Penthouse hotel" unless you WANT to find the "go-go BOYS" - that and an area to also avoid is off south road between soi buakhao and 2nd road on the south side.

Nauskas
01-12-05, 23:33
Will be in BKK Sat 22nd and Pattaya through the 27th

Anybody else, PM me

Dinghy
01-12-05, 23:38
Horatio - well... 200B is a "bit" to them since the "lower end" of beach road prices is 200 or 300B. Some places have a drink quota, they get a portion (don't know exactly how much out of it but a portion) of the lady drink cost.

How much you spend is "up to you". If the poo-ying is willing to sit and converse with you, that's her choice, for however long she wants to pursue the activity. They generally look at it as "advertising" anyway. If someone else came along and asked for a particular girl, she would probably go over to them.

$5? so? for 'Murcans that's chump change anyway (although it would get you laid in Cambodia)

Speed Touch
01-12-05, 23:56
ZOS,

Nice reports, keep them coming.

Discos - You still have to try the discos (lucifers, tony's, marina) as these can be interesting and you do get some hot girls in there - be careful not to get pickpocekted. Also the massage places should have the goldfish style thing going on.

The girls can attach to you sometimes - they sleep usually in a room shared with 2 or 3 girls and the rooms are pretty horrible - hence a sleeping in a nice place can be appealing..and i guess they're always hoping for a extra tip!

ST

Zos68
01-13-05, 04:29
Sorry guys but I might have given the wrong impression.

I'm having a great time here!

I've probably been posting a fair bit of negative stuff since these things seem to stick in the memory and I was just trying to help people avoid the same things.

Every bar I've been to there are heaps of girls. I just found it strange that I go into a go-go here for the first time and.... none??

On a more positive note: The food is great. I've been hanging out at Easyriders Bar on North Pattaya Rd a bit and have had the deep fried whole sea bass for the last 3 nights. Even before I did the pig spit thing at Suzies.

I spent the rest of last night across the road from Easyriders at a bar with a live band.

No girls last night because I needed the sleep but had a really great time. Might do the same again tonight. It was a very good band and would have BF one of the girls if I was up to it.

I'm 36 and not in too bad shape but we all need our sleep :)

Checked out the hotel pool for the first time yesterday for a few hours.
Basically guys I'm having a great time here.

It seems that a lot of people read this board. I had some guy come up to me and shake my hand last night for no reason that I can tell??? There are very few Australians around so I might not be hard to find.

After being a member here for nearly a year I probably havn't posted as much as other people. Basically because I have had nothing to add.

How many people just say "well I might as well check out Pattaya" and try to post a decent report.

Someone from outback Australia is probaby less likely to have a chip on their shoulder than anyone else in the world :)

The smog has cleared today so I might have a go at parasailing or something.

Regards,

Zos

Domino
01-13-05, 06:04
Airport forms: these have changed and so many planes arrviing do not have the right ones.
Day time: most golf, go to the beach, islands or just stay in.
Women: they are uneducatec peasants and so are unsuitable for high end shopping. Horses for courses.
There are plenty of skanks along Beach Rd, eager to please., For good bbbj, go for slightly older ones. Plenty of prettys to be had in Walking St late at night
go go bars: are for losers who want to give money out for sub standard bs.
Baht buses: only get into those which already have passengers.
Therer is not really much to be said about Pattaya once you have a hotel etc near a stroll.
see Samus Aran section for more detail.

Coupler
01-15-05, 13:39
Is this Hotel GF?

Looks like a nice place, reasonable prices.

Zos68
01-16-05, 07:42
Well guys,

2 more days in Pattaya. Did some more shopping on Friday as well as some bar hopping. Found the markets and got brand name (billabong, quicksilver) shirts for 190b. I was walking back from South Pattaya and got ambushed by a girl from before. I wasn't thinking about anything really, let alone what bar I was walking past. Oh well, another all-nighter.

During the bar hopping I was on Beach road somewhere between Soi 9 and 10 I think. Had a chat with an American and an English guy. It was good to talk to people here who speak good English.

Last night I was eating and playing pool again up at Easyriders and got a really nice note from this girl (very sweet actually). I was really thinking about getting to know her better but have probably stuffed my chances now. I decided to head back to the hotel and stopped off next door at a place called "Drinking Street". Just another open air bar with about 10 mini-bars. After a while I ended up paying bar fine on another girl. I have to find her again because she is beautiful and gives a great bj (first REALLY great bj I've hit here). Played pool with some English guy who really killed me (maximum respect, he said he beat Eddie Chalton once and I believe him).

Part of the problem for me is that these girls work all night and don't sleep till 7am. I'm not up to that sort of jet-lag. The other part is I'm probably getting older and just can't do this every night (where do I get some V ;) ) <--just joking.

I guess what I'm getting at is the reason not to do 3f all the time. And its a very valid reason I think. If your not here full time, find a couple of girls that are good and don't forget them, if its for a shortish stay. There are plenty of duds. I won't be with someone older than 35, although I've seen a lot of girls who are up to it, so my choices are a bit more limited.

I've probably made a mistake by taking too many girls from the same immediate area. Oh well, my fault for being lazy. If these girls are with unlimited guys how the hell can they call you a butterfly as if that is a bad thing??? Yeah I know these girls need the money ect ect.

Its been raining on and off for the last 2 days so I wasn't into going to far anyway.

Happy Hunting

Zos

Zos68
01-31-05, 06:06
Anyway I'm back to the real world again. In 12 days I tried 1 BG 4 times and 6 others all LT. I keep getting SMS from the girl I had for a few days but never any requests for money or anything else. Probably helps that she doesn't speak much English :)

Met up with Felix from this forum one night. First person from the board that I've actually met IRL. From the chat we had he really should post more as he really knows his stuff.

The girl I had a few times was absolutely brilliant. More than a GFE, more like a "I'm god" experience!! From washing me in the bath to doing my nails and getting me drinks ect ect 24/7. I can see how a guy could fall for that. Not to mention the sex. She actually cried when I left. Went shopping with her and she bought her own stuff and even bought me a necklace with the Thai king on the pendant. Gave her average 2000Bt LT per day. Thats 24/7 and she never wanted to leave and never actually asked for anything at all.

After meeting Felix I headed back towards her bar and got ambushed by a few of her friends. One of them was her boss and the owner of the bar. They took me to another place (can't rember the name) and the owner was buying us all drinks. Must have been 10 girls total and him, me and an American guy who also has a stake in the bar I guess. Seems it was a birthday party. After leaving the place we all went back to the bar and did the whole cake thing. 20 mins later my girl turns up. I guess she was doing ST with another customer.

Would like to get your opinions on this. Is this sort of treatment normal and if so why did I only get this great treatment from 1 out of 7 girls?

Work is sending me back to Singapore next month so I'll probably do a report from there. It seems my hotel is right opposite Orchard Towers so I'll drop in and have a look. I'm also taking another 2 weeks off to trip around a bit. At least 1 week in Indo. I might go back to LOS for the 2nd week but doubt it.

On the way back at BKK airport they actually let me get on the wrong plane. All the way through security. On the plane some girl was sitting in "my" seat but I figured that if she wants the window that bad let her have it and I just took the middle one. They realised just before the flight took off and came and got me. It was going to Singapore anyway and the flight numbers where 67 and 69 so I guess its an understandable mistake but....

Domino
01-31-05, 07:33
Beach Road: Holes stil there. A drunk Norwegain fell into one.
Suicides and petty crime: Plenty of nasy ones reported on TV.
Naklua: I spent a few days up there helping friends. Lots of British expats and their wives, most of whom worked in the entertainment business around Soi 8. All seem happy though many are broke so expect more runs on plastic bags, duct tape and gas.
Norwegians: These guysd are getting very drunk, falling into Beach Road holes, smashing up motorbikes etc. No probleasm with them but they shoulddrink less.
Lek Hotel: I went for buffest pig fest breakfast here one morning. Noisy Norwegian startd pusing the tiny waiter (looks gay) around. The waiter downed him and left him like an over fed St Bernard dog with his four paws sticking up in the air. Very funny and instructive. If you are very tense, don't fuck with the Thais or they will fuck with you.
Russians: lots of young ladies with lovely tits around.
Overall women standard: Not good.
Soi Boucauw TV bars beside sawadee hotel: all demolished. They had a good business plan getting tough Thai men (aka TVs) to drink all night with weirdo farangs. Not for me and the TVs do seem to be dangerous.
Skinless: I have moved on to bonking ordinary working women, including the babes in this interent shop. Much beter.
Photos:No more as they are a waste of bandwidth and the service Jackson kindly provides is overworked and unrelaible as a result.

Domino
02-01-05, 10:05
pattaya news informs us today of a 21 year old lady who was caught selling **** hookers to farang on beach rd. it was kinda sad looking at the kid brought into custody and hearing her story. the 21 year old is loking at a long holiday in athai jail and the kid a few months.
russians everywhere. most seem to be family tourists. lots of young, pretty ruskies.
nampa: i have pulled a mall sales lady but their work times are so shit there is no time to do anything at all with them. what a sad and hard life they have.
internet shop: i am bonking the assistant here, though in her 30s and has had a child, she has a good firm pair of hubcaps which will be getting put to good use tonight. much cheasper and better thaqn the beach rd babes.
beach rd: too many gaping holes there.
crowds: seem to be way down per my mall babe.
baht bus: skinless pays 10 baht. not worth the stress. seems like a fair price to me.
heavies: local friends wanr skinless not to make locals lose face or they get very violent and they are the house.
petty crime: definitely on the up. more column inches etc devoted to it. be warned but don't be scared off.
prices: still 1000 bt long time, 500 short time max. as i meet up with freeler tomorrow, i can give you a handle on bargain rates;)

Anzac
02-04-05, 11:06
Hey guys,

First time in Pattaya 12-16 feb. Would be great if any fellow members wanna catch up for a beer and joint hunting.

Cheers and beers,

Anzac - Sydney, Oz

Gladiator
02-05-05, 22:27
Baht bus: Skinless pays 10 baht. Not worth the stress. Seems like a fair price to me.

Sorry to hear you are getting some overpaying habits. Seeing the drivers’ anger when you give them 5 bahts is part of the fun.

Does anyone know what’s the best place now in Pattaya to buy pirate software? Not games, but Windows applications, etc. I’m sure this has been posted somewhere but the info may be out of date as there have been some crackdowns over the last few months on some pirate products vendors. I’ll be there in 2 months and need to buy some stuff.

Domino
02-06-05, 03:35
Gladiator: Oh well, that's me, Japping up the price.
I did not see many/any software on sale. PLenty of DVD/game stalls on Beach Road and a few in 2nd Road, between Sois11 and Walking Street. A guy was busted for selling porno DVDs from a Soi Boucauw Street, making Pattaya news wonder why he was singled out and not the street vendors. When I was in Panthip Plaza a fw months ago, a big clamp down was in process. The Pattaya stret vendors, at least the dude on Soi 12/Beach Rd I dealt with were opening and closingquicker than the skanks pulling down their panties. Bottom line: increased clamp down. I only found oneguy in Chiang Mai's night market selling software. Maybe if you are in Pattaya, take a trip into Bkk?

Anzac
02-06-05, 06:08
Hey guys,

Anzac here from Sydney. I will be in Pattaya for first time on 12th Feb. If anyone is keen to catch up for a beer with fellow member, pls let me know,

Cheers and beers,

Anzac

Anzac
02-06-05, 06:18
Hey guys, especially Domino,

Can any Pattaya regulars out there help me out with a location of most popular disco in town with the female tourist crowd. I read here (from Domino I think) that a lot of cute Russians in town. Do you know where they hang out at night mate?

Thanks in advance,

Anzac

Nauskas
02-06-05, 07:25
there is a lot of pressure to stop the practice in thailand, so you will see less and less of it. go to china or indonesia, where its bit more rampant. in china, it is nearly impossble to get the real think of any branded item.

the owner of pantip also owns the imperial queens park hotel, so you can see a relationship to business there.

you will also notice almost no stores selling knockoffs anymore, (software anyway) just street or stall vendors now. (and they are under the heat these days)

if you are an american, be careful coming home. if you are searched and lucky, they will simply confirep001e them. customs is a very different and better funded operation under dhs.

porn is another story, i saw tons of it on the street in bkk and pattaya last week. seemed more than in 2003.

Nefarious
02-12-05, 12:08
Guys,

I've been looking through the forum (when it actually loads in) and have been trying to search the posts for a good hotel. I've also been searching the internet elsewhere. I'm looking for a very girl friendly place that will allow 2 girls in at once. I'd like A/C, large good bed, in-room safe, good shower, quiet, but also close to the action of walking street. I don't care if a hotel has a restaurant, pool, or any special services. I'd like a nice place, but it doesn't have to be 4 start you know. The few that I've found that meet my criteria are booked. I'm less than 1 week away. Any suggestions. Thanks for the help. I know it's last minute. Please PM me or post. Thanks.

Roaming Rob
02-12-05, 13:15
Just returned from another trip to Pattaya. I think if you can get into Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 you will be pleased. It has all that you asked except for the in-room safe.

Sunbeam on Soi 8 is another nice one but can at times get a little loud depending on which side of the Hotel you are on.

Best of luck!

Nefarious
02-19-05, 04:15
Hey Guy! Day one of my journey was long, but had a great ending. After getting out of the airport, we got on the A3 bus from BKK to Ekamia bus station. The first trip was 100 baht and took about an hour. Then we took another bus about 2 hours to Pattaya. The second bus was 90 baht. If I had to do it over, I would probably take a private car. Sure, the bus route was cheaper, but I think it would be faster and in the end, my time is worth more than the saving of a little baht.

Once we arrived in Pattaya, we got off the bus. The driver (little truck taxi) offered to take us directly to hotel for 40 baht each. We probably overpaid, but our options seemed limited and hey, it is just $1!

The driver took us right to the hotel. They seemed a little disorganized at the desk, but finally got both of our room keys (I am traveling with a buddy) and we went off to our rooms. He got the standard room and I got the deluxe. He booked the rooms so I don't know how much they cost. I think mine is about $45 and his something like $35, but I would have to check again to be sure. Anyway, his shower has poor water pressure, but my room is fine. It's a very clean hotel and they have a great free breakfast buffet. Since I am a bit of a private person, I will let you know the name of the hotel when we leave town. Don't want all the stalkers after me.

So, after getting unpacked and a shower, we had some dinner, got a foot massage (1 hour 200 baht), and then went out on the prowl. We walked around several of the bars and were a little freaked out at what we thought were possibly ladyboys. I was so freaked out that every girl I saw and took an intrest in I suspected her of being a dude. I am sure most were girls, but you know how paranoid we can be at times about this.

Finally, we made our way to one of the MANY bars with girls all around. One amazing beauty (the one who lured us in) sat down by me and her nearly as equally cute friend sat down by my buddy. All was going fine until the show started back up. It was a tranny show. The "girls" on stage looked amazing. I have to admit that from where I was sitting one of them looked like the hottest woman I've ever seen, but the girls told us that all the entertainers on stage were men. Then my friend freaked out a bit thinking that our girls might be guys. He took off in search of something else.

I did all the customary checks (wrists, ankles, hips:waist, adam's apple check, etc) and finally just slid my hand between each of their legs. Bingo! Definately girls! So, we discussed the barfine and price for BOTH of them!!! At first they thought I was joking about both, but you know... I guess I'm just a freak.

Barfine was 400 baht. I offered 500 baht to each girl and they said 1,000 and no less. So, I settled... two girls for 2,000 baht seemed good to me. Before going to the hotel, one of the girls said she wanted to drink a bit and asked if we could go to a bar. I said sure, but not too long. They took me to a gogo bar. All nude girls. That was my first one here, and it was good. The best part was sitting in a strip club with all the dudes looking an me and my two ladies all getting it on. I'm gonna tell you that I am average looking at best and these girls were amazing and all over me. I felt like a king! God love these Thai girls! Even walking on the street we were getting many appreciative smiles. Even some older women looked amused by the scene of us strolling together down the street. I am sure it is a more common sight that I know of now, but I was the only one I saw with such luck.

When we got to the hotel, I was a little suprised to find that the hotel charges a 300 baht per girl joiner fee. Not much, but I thought I had a double room. We got back to my room and they were a bit amused that I had my condoms in the safe. Hey, these are Trojan Magnum condoms and I have never found any comfortable fitting ones at an Asian store. The ones I got on my last trip to Thailand were too small and were hard to put on. I just like a more relaxed fit I guess.

Anyway, we took turns showering (even though I really wanted all three of us at once in the shower). After the shower we got to business. One gave good head, the other superior head. I had to stop her before it was over too quick. Amazing oral skills! Condom change at this point and the hot one got on top and rode me for a while, then I flipped her over and took her for a while. The other was finally decided she wanted in on the action so she stared opening another condom. She then pushed me off the girl I was on and did the condom change. Same deal as with other girl. She rode me (not very well I have to say) and then I finished my doing her missionary. More showers.

The cute one and I did a nice snuggle spoon and the other one cuddled to my back. Nice big American man sandwhich. We slept a few hours and then I woke up to the hot girl gently kissing my face, neck, and chest. She did a nice BBBJ and asked me to get a condom. We had a nice enjoyable time and then you guessed it. More showers. Thai girls are very clean. We slept another hour and then they got dressed. I gave them their payment plus 320 baht extra each. Call me a sucker for the extra cash, but this was the perfect night.

So, here we are 10:15 in the mornning and ready for fun. Next report coming soon!

Jaimito Cartero
02-19-05, 15:33
Once we arrived in Pattaya, we got off the bus. The driver (little truck taxi) offered to take us directly to hotel for 40 baht each. We probably overpaid, but our options seemed limited and hey, it is just $1!

The driver took us right to the hotel. They seemed a little disorganized at the desk, but finally got both of our room keys (I am traveling with a buddy) and we went off to our rooms. He got the standard room and I got the deluxe. He booked the rooms so I don't know how much they cost. I think mine is about $45 and his something like $35, but I would have to check again to be sure. Anyway, his shower has poor water pressure, but my room is fine. It's a very clean hotel and they have a great free breakfast buffet. Since I am a bit of a private person, I will let you know the name of the hotel when we leave town. Don't want all the stalkers after me.

So, after getting unpacked and a shower, we had some dinner, got a foot massage (1 hour 200 baht), and then went out on the prowl. We walked around several of the bars and were a little freaked out at what we thought were possibly ladyboys. I was so freaked out that every girl I saw and took an intrest in I suspected her of being a dude. I am sure most were girls, but you know how paranoid we can be at times about this.

Finally, we made our way to one of the MANY bars with girls all around. One amazing beauty (the one who lured us in) sat down by me and her nearly as equally cute friend sat down by my buddy. All was going fine until the show started back up. It was a tranny show. The "girls" on stage looked amazing. I have to admit that from where I was sitting one of them looked like the hottest woman I've ever seen, but the girls told us that all the entertainers on stage were men. Then my friend freaked out a bit thinking that our girls might be guys. He took off in search of something else.

I did all the customary checks (wrists, ankles, hips:waist, adam's apple check, etc) and finally just slid my hand between each of their legs. Bingo! Definately girls! So, we discussed the barfine and price for BOTH of them!!! At first they thought I was joking about both, but you know... I guess I'm just a freak.

When we got to the hotel, I was a little suprised to find that the hotel charges a 300 baht per girl joiner fee. Not much, but I thought I had a double room. We got back to my room and they were a bit amused that I had my condoms in the safe. Hey, these are Trojan Magnum condoms and I have never found any comfortable fitting ones at an Asian store. The ones I got on my last trip to Thailand were too small and were hard to put on. I just like a more relaxed fit I guess.

Anyway, we took turns showering (even though I really wanted all three of us at once in the shower). After the shower we got to business. One gave good head, the other superior head. I had to stop her before it was over too quick. Amazing oral skills! Condom change at this point and the hot one got on top and rode me for a while, then I flipped her over and took her for a while. The other was finally decided she wanted in on the action so she stared opening another condom. She then pushed me off the girl I was on and did the condom change. Same deal as with other girl. She rode me (not very well I have to say) and then I finished my doing her missionary. More showers.


Normal Baht bus charges are 20 baht from the bus station. And they will usually take you right to your hotel, or very close.

I don't know why you're paranoid about the hotel name. 90% or more of all the guys are in Pattaya for one reason. And it's not the beach.

You obviously haven't done too much research on this forum. Guys ask about Joiner fees all the time. I'd never stay in a hotel that charged one. It's just a rip off. If you bring one girl a day, you'll pay a lot of money over the length of your trip.

There are certain Sois that are almost all TV bars. Some others have a few TVs there, but you do need to be careful.

Jaimito Cartero
02-19-05, 15:45
Once we arrived in Pattaya, we got off the bus. The driver (little truck taxi) offered to take us directly to hotel for 40 baht each. We probably overpaid, but our options seemed limited and hey, it is just $1!

The driver took us right to the hotel. They seemed a little disorganized at the desk, but finally got both of our room keys (I am traveling with a buddy) and we went off to our rooms. He got the standard room and I got the deluxe. He booked the rooms so I don't know how much they cost. I think mine is about $45 and his something like $35, but I would have to check again to be sure. Anyway, his shower has poor water pressure, but my room is fine. It's a very clean hotel and they have a great free breakfast buffet. Since I am a bit of a private person, I will let you know the name of the hotel when we leave town. Don't want all the stalkers after me.

So, after getting unpacked and a shower, we had some dinner, got a foot massage (1 hour 200 baht), and then went out on the prowl. We walked around several of the bars and were a little freaked out at what we thought were possibly ladyboys. I was so freaked out that every girl I saw and took an intrest in I suspected her of being a dude. I am sure most were girls, but you know how paranoid we can be at times about this.

Finally, we made our way to one of the MANY bars with girls all around. One amazing beauty (the one who lured us in) sat down by me and her nearly as equally cute friend sat down by my buddy. All was going fine until the show started back up. It was a tranny show. The "girls" on stage looked amazing. I have to admit that from where I was sitting one of them looked like the hottest woman I've ever seen, but the girls told us that all the entertainers on stage were men. Then my friend freaked out a bit thinking that our girls might be guys. He took off in search of something else.

I did all the customary checks (wrists, ankles, hips:waist, adam's apple check, etc) and finally just slid my hand between each of their legs. Bingo! Definately girls! So, we discussed the barfine and price for BOTH of them!!! At first they thought I was joking about both, but you know... I guess I'm just a freak.

When we got to the hotel, I was a little suprised to find that the hotel charges a 300 baht per girl joiner fee. Not much, but I thought I had a double room. We got back to my room and they were a bit amused that I had my condoms in the safe. Hey, these are Trojan Magnum condoms and I have never found any comfortable fitting ones at an Asian store. The ones I got on my last trip to Thailand were too small and were hard to put on. I just like a more relaxed fit I guess.

Anyway, we took turns showering (even though I really wanted all three of us at once in the shower). After the shower we got to business. One gave good head, the other superior head. I had to stop her before it was over too quick. Amazing oral skills! Condom change at this point and the hot one got on top and rode me for a while, then I flipped her over and took her for a while. The other was finally decided she wanted in on the action so she stared opening another condom. She then pushed me off the girl I was on and did the condom change. Same deal as with other girl. She rode me (not very well I have to say) and then I finished my doing her missionary. More showers.


Normal Baht bus charges are 20 baht from the bus station. And they will usually take you right to your hotel, or very close.

I don't know why you're paranoid about the hotel name. 90% or more of all the guys are in Pattaya for one reason. And it's not the beach.

You obviously haven't done too much research on this forum. Guys ask about Joiner fees all the time. I'd never stay in a hotel that charged one. It's just a rip off. If you bring one girl a day, you'll pay a lot of money over the length of your trip.

There are certain Sois that are almost all TV bars. Some others have a few TVs there, but you do need to be careful.

Jaimito Cartero
02-19-05, 15:46
Once we arrived in Pattaya, we got off the bus. The driver (little truck taxi) offered to take us directly to hotel for 40 baht each. We probably overpaid, but our options seemed limited and hey, it is just $1!

The driver took us right to the hotel. They seemed a little disorganized at the desk, but finally got both of our room keys (I am traveling with a buddy) and we went off to our rooms. He got the standard room and I got the deluxe. He booked the rooms so I don't know how much they cost. I think mine is about $45 and his something like $35, but I would have to check again to be sure. Anyway, his shower has poor water pressure, but my room is fine. It's a very clean hotel and they have a great free breakfast buffet. Since I am a bit of a private person, I will let you know the name of the hotel when we leave town. Don't want all the stalkers after me.

So, after getting unpacked and a shower, we had some dinner, got a foot massage (1 hour 200 baht), and then went out on the prowl. We walked around several of the bars and were a little freaked out at what we thought were possibly ladyboys. I was so freaked out that every girl I saw and took an intrest in I suspected her of being a dude. I am sure most were girls, but you know how paranoid we can be at times about this.

Finally, we made our way to one of the MANY bars with girls all around. One amazing beauty (the one who lured us in) sat down by me and her nearly as equally cute friend sat down by my buddy. All was going fine until the show started back up. It was a tranny show. The "girls" on stage looked amazing. I have to admit that from where I was sitting one of them looked like the hottest woman I've ever seen, but the girls told us that all the entertainers on stage were men. Then my friend freaked out a bit thinking that our girls might be guys. He took off in search of something else.

I did all the customary checks (wrists, ankles, hips:waist, adam's apple check, etc) and finally just slid my hand between each of their legs. Bingo! Definately girls! So, we discussed the barfine and price for BOTH of them!!! At first they thought I was joking about both, but you know... I guess I'm just a freak.

When we got to the hotel, I was a little suprised to find that the hotel charges a 300 baht per girl joiner fee. Not much, but I thought I had a double room. We got back to my room and they were a bit amused that I had my condoms in the safe. Hey, these are Trojan Magnum condoms and I have never found any comfortable fitting ones at an Asian store. The ones I got on my last trip to Thailand were too small and were hard to put on. I just like a more relaxed fit I guess.

Anyway, we took turns showering (even though I really wanted all three of us at once in the shower). After the shower we got to business. One gave good head, the other superior head. I had to stop her before it was over too quick. Amazing oral skills! Condom change at this point and the hot one got on top and rode me for a while, then I flipped her over and took her for a while. The other was finally decided she wanted in on the action so she stared opening another condom. She then pushed me off the girl I was on and did the condom change. Same deal as with other girl. She rode me (not very well I have to say) and then I finished my doing her missionary. More showers.


Normal Baht bus charges are 20 baht from the bus station. And they will usually take you right to your hotel, or very close.

I don't know why you're paranoid about the hotel name. 90% or more of all the guys are in Pattaya for one reason. And it's not the beach.

You obviously haven't done too much research on this forum. Guys ask about Joiner fees all the time. I'd never stay in a hotel that charged one. It's just a rip off. If you bring one girl a day, you'll pay a lot of money over the length of your trip.

There are certain Sois that are almost all TV bars. Some others have a few TVs there, but you do need to be careful.

Nefarious
02-20-05, 12:50
First, let me say thank so much to Jaimito for the kind reply. I am sure the triple posting was due to a technical problem. Well, I have been an active member for quite some time and have tried to do research on WSG, but the recent problems Jackson has been having with the hackers has made it difficult for any of us to do so. Also, this was a last minute trip and most hotels were booked. It was either a 300 baht joiner fee (yes it pisses me off) or a hole in the wall and sorry, but I like a little class. The hotel is Sunbeam and it's OK despite the joiner fee. The killer breakfast make up for it IMHO.

Without any furhter rambling, my Day 2 report. Sorry for the missing report yesterday, I was unable to get online. By the way, cheers to Jackson for doing all he can to thwat the evil bonehead cyber idiot attackers. Day 2 was pretty much a relaxing massage and take a look around Pattaya day. The best girl I met this trip was was at the On the Side Bar. She was easily the best looking girl I've seen so far. Kudos to me if I don't say so myself. Her Enlgish was very limited, but wow what a body. Price seems to be pretty consistant at 1,000 baht for long time. If you are getting it for less then you might be a little better at negotiation than I am. I can't remember her name, but I will get you a picture posted when I return home (in a few days).

Today was a relaxing day for more massage, swimming in the pool at the hotel, and a visit to Sabai Massage. Not too bad of a soapy but the girl (MooK #187) made serveral comment about cutting off my penis, which freaked me out a bit. I tried to take it as a joke, but she just kept going, which was a little freaky. I ended up pounding that girl for a quite a good time... sweaty and freaky. My friend has a bit better luck with #004, a nice drak skin with big hooters.

Going back, with aching nuts, for more fun tonight. More later!

Duniawala
02-20-05, 18:27
The hotel is Sunbeam and it's OK despite the joiner fee.


Nefarious, I think you got ripped off. I have stayed at Sunbeam and never paid a joiner fee.

Member #2041
02-20-05, 18:42
I stayed at the Sunbeam last week. No joiner fee on two visits back to the room with newly met friends. On both occassions, was warmly greeted by the night guard at the elevator. So it appears that any joiner fee was an individual rip-off.

Jaimito Cartero
02-21-05, 06:02
If you think they're ripping you off, tell them that you stayed 6 months ago and never paid it. Ask to talk to the manager. The worse that will happen is that you will have to pay it.

Yes, it has been hard the last month or so. It looks like Jackson is getting it under control though!

Draco
02-21-05, 08:14
Anzac,

Two very good disco/nightclubs in Pattaya:

Lucifers - on walking street. Good dancing, good live band that plays many of the most popular R&B songs of the day. Gets crowded, but it's the place. No entry charge. Pretty expensive drinks - 150 bhat is the norm. Many great looking ladies, but also great for a date.

Exzyte - over on Soi Boikow (not sure I have spelling correct) - to be correct this is more a concert hall - live band on a main stage - cover for farangs is about 300 - which also buys a drink. Ladies in for no charge. Big place, holds probably 2000 people. One time there it had a great Thai band, very popular. The place was fantastic - although pretty hot with that many people there. Another time it had medium quality groups doing one dance number after another - ok, but not nearly as good. This time the place probably had 500-700 people. Had a date with me, so it was fun - but that night wasn't so great for a pickup. Bhat buses go there - it's about 5 minutes away - not as convenient as Lucifers.

Last - Tony's disco - on walking street. Haven't been there, but never see any crowds. The local thai ladies say it doesn't compare to Lucifer's.

Enjoy

Roaming Rob
02-21-05, 12:29
I too have stayed at the Sunbeam but it was hit or miss on if they made me pay a joiner fee. Mainly depended on who was at the front desk or how disracted that they were. Security actually came to my room after I walked past the desk and the had me come back down and pay joiner fee for my night time entertainment.

RCA Knight
02-22-05, 12:55
I was in Pattaya for 2 days and just came back to BKK. Have to do a visa run to Penang tommorrow. Will be sexless for 2-3 days or so in boring Penang waiting for my visa. Pattaya now has lots of cutie Russian girls. Some of them are part time tourists and work if they are in the mood.

I talked to a very cute one in the Royal Garden Shopping and at first she told me she is tourist but I invited her and her friend, very fat, to coffee. And they speak some English and German and I tried directly to ask her to come. She hasitated a little and talked to her friend first and then asked me if I give her some spending money. Very young and cute and looks so Nordic like Sharapova kind. I offered her 100 Euro for a date with me. She agreed.

It was the best pink puss in last several years and very smooth skin and little hair. Did 2 rounds and took her to late night dinner and then took her and her friends to Hollywood for some dancing. Very memorable. After my visa run, I plan to go back Pattaya to look for another Sharapova.

Capt JB
02-22-05, 17:15
Is Pattaya a good place to have clothing tailor made? I have had shirts & suits made in Bangkok previously with good results but having never been to Pattaya before I thought it would be a good idea to ask the forum member of their experiences.

Been looking at the website for Sunshine Vista serviced apartments. They look very nice with in room safe, seperate tub & shower ect. Rates seem most reasonable. Anyone had any experience there.

Simply The Best
02-23-05, 12:21
Is Pattaya a good place to have clothing tailor made? I have had shirts & suits made in Bangkok previously with good results but having never been to Pattaya before I thought it would be a good idea to ask the forum member of their experiences.

Been looking at the website for Sunshine Vista serviced apartments. They look very nice with in room safe, seperate tub & shower ect. Rates seem most reasonable. Anyone had any experience there.I think it will be not a bad idea to do that.

I've never done (because I was only once in pattaya), but my friends are always ordered shirts and suits for reasonable prices and good quality.

If you want, I can ask my friend for some adresses. He comes back this week from pattay.

I do'nt know the Sunshine apartments. My friends and I always staying at the Nong apartments (http://www.pattayavacation.com/index-1.htm), nice rooms, close to the scene, but not so crowdy.

The swiss owner is very helpfull and fluently english speaking.

have fun

jhh

Nefarious
02-23-05, 13:30
Sorry for the delay, but day 4 wasy very busy and didn't have time for a report of day 3 until I got home. On the evening of day 3, I went back to the on the side bar to see if I could hook up with the girl I had met the previous night. While I had made plans to not hook up with the same girl more than once, I was really hooked with this one. As luck would have it, one of the girls that had arrived early remembered me and asked if I wanted the same girl I had the night before. She gave her a call and within 15 minutes she had arrived. I paid her barfrine and off we went arm in arm. We had a nice dinner at some little place with a live piano player/singer, who was pretty damn good by the way. He played some nice John Dever and other songs, which really helped relax me quite a bit. This was the first time I had ever really felt nervous with a bargirl, which was sort of messing with my head. It seemed a lot like a real date instead of P4P. Conversation was limited to what we could find in a Thai/English phrase book, but the she smiled often and seemed to take a great deal of pleasure in my attempts to speak Thai.

After dinner, we headed out to a bar where some of her friends work. We had a couple of drinks and her friends translated for us. I found out that her husband had left her for another, younger woman. I was under the impression that he was dead. Her friend told me that she really didn't want me to know he had left her. Apparently it is a source of shame for her. Her father also died and so she was left supporting mom and her own 3 year old daughter. I've heard similar stories before, but I had a gut feelig that this one was true. After our drinks with her friends, we headed back to my hotel (yes, I paid the darn joiner fee!) for a wonderful night. It was the best GFE that I've had with a pro. The next morning, we had a very sad goodbye for both of us. I have to wonder how many of us go there and meet someone that just takes our breath away. We exchanged email addresses and I plan to visit her again on my next trip in a couple of months and if she is still around maybe in June, but who knows where she will be in two months.

To all of the guys that have went to Thailand and fell in love with a bargirl and I have mocked you behind your back, I apologize. I was totally wrong.

Day 5 was spent in travel to Bangkok and a fun night in Nana Entertainment Plaza! Go to the Bangkok forum for more.

By the way, we took a private "limo" which was really a nice van with leather seats from Pattaya to our hotel in Bangkok. Total price for the van was 1,800 baht. We are sure we could have gotten a better deal, but as always on this trip we weren't prepared, did everything last minute, and paid the premium.

Joe Zop
02-23-05, 15:36
To all of the guys that have went to Thailand and fell in love with a bargirl and I have mocked you behind your back, I apologize. I was totally wrong.

You were right then and you're right now -- that's the dilemma of it. It's silly to go and fall for someone who you pay to bonk, and it's also very easy to do if you're not being consciously hard-hearted, because many of these women present as absolute sweethearts.

Many of us go to LOS and get our breath taken away. That's fine (and is most certainly one of the attractions) as long as you remember to breathe again before you get too dizzy.

JuiceSpike
02-23-05, 17:55
Hmm, glad to hear you had a great trip but wandering if this was your first trip there which would explain you falling "in love" with a bar girl.

You wrote: "This was the first time I had ever really felt nervous with a bargirl, which was sort of messing with my head. It seemed a lot like a real date instead of P4P..."

Messing with your head is the key thing going on here. I'm not surprised especially if you are a newbie. Keep in mind you are not alone as many guys go there thinking that a bar girl is a great choice for gf or even wife and that P4P is real. Real means different things to different people but I can guarantee you that P4P is for sex and not for love...

juice

Freeler
02-23-05, 20:12
Joe zop,

"remember to breathe again before you get too dizzy"

The thing I started doing is get the lady of the moment to afterlay with me for, well, as long as it takes to catch my breath.
Sometimes this works so well that once more I get to do the thing that made me dizzy in the first place...

PS What is this thing you guys call 'love':D?

Capt JB
02-23-05, 21:48
It's easy to fall in love with the girls, I think I fell in love with about 9 of them last time I was there. Just don't take anything home with you that you can't wash off or wares shoes.

JuiceSpike
02-23-05, 23:19
Love is never having to say "no" to anything... right?

:D

juice

Sainter21
02-24-05, 00:43
Hi all,

Similar to my Bkk post.
Visiting Pattaya and hoping to get an update.
From my research, the latest go-go places to visit maybe;

Super Baby
Dollhouse
Living Dolls

True/False/Any others?

Freelancer Bar is recommended. Any thoughts?

I'm staying at the Apex hotel. i'm lead to believe that it is guest friendly. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks heaps.

Simply The Best
02-24-05, 02:07
Love is never having to say "no" to anything... right?

:D

juiceBut only in our monger life and only at the right place at the right time!

Otherwise it may be a desaster - for us.

Have fun

jhh

Nefarious
02-24-05, 04:36
while this was my first trip to pattaya, this was not my first mongering trip nor even my frist to thailand. although i have to admit that i've not been anyplace like pattaya. the funny thing is that normally i see the girls trying really hard to give the gfe most of the time, but i can see it is just for the moment. there was just something about this girl that stuck with me. she seemed like she didn't really belong there, but that might just be my own mind, beleifs, wants, etc.

the sex was amazing, but the best part was just laying there in bed after sex next to this beauty, touching her soft body. she was a romantic girl and seemed to be able to read my mind at every moment. i've never been with any woman that seemed to be so in tune with me and my wants. seeing her tears at our goodbye was the final straw. i'm sure she will go on with her life as she was before and i will too. it was just a peek through a window into a life that will never be. there is no doubt in my mind that even if we somehow made an attempt at a real relationship it would be very likely impossible to work out as i would like for more reasons than i care to even think about. it sure was one great trip and the memories of that girl are very good ones.

joe, you've got that right and i'm still a bit dizzy at the moment. it is time for a deep breath! being hard-hearted is not in my nature, but without a doubt it might be required to a certain extent. cheers!

Joe Zop
02-24-05, 05:45
well, nefarious, i don't think there's anything wrong with falling for a girl like that for a few days as long as you've got the ability to catch yourself before you do anything foolish -- which is really what i meant by being hard-hearted. such an infatuation can definitely be wonderful if you're not the type to do something silly like start buying jewelry, thinking about getting her out of the life, marrying or supporting her, etc., especially if you can do the classic skinless-esque lamenting of the tragicness of it all while simultaneously enjoying and counting on that hopelessness. it's the guys who fall and then do things like radically change their travel plans, send money, write silly emails and so on who deserve to be sentenced to fifty rereadings of every post samus aran (and all his various banned alter egos) has made. but just peeking through those kinds of windows for a little while (as opposed to thinking you can truly inhabit the building) can definitely give you the best kind of souvenir. sounds like you had a great trip!

freeler, if you're running out of breath, you might teach her to do some of the work for a change! :d

Alex P Keaton
02-24-05, 20:38
Is Pattaya a good place to have clothing tailor made?Yes. I have had good experiences with Roger and Alexander at Souvenir Tailors, Pratamnak Road 115/8 Moo 10, by the White Rose hotel.

Horatio
02-25-05, 03:49
Greetings All,

I went to Pattaya at the end of November '04 and stayed until the middle of January '05. I had a very enjoyable time. The following is some of my thoughts for what they are worth. Also for what it's worth I am new to mongering.

The plane ride was very long. I left Missouri at noon on a wednesday and arrived in Bangkok at noon on Friday. The time change accounted for 12 hours of this, but still it was a long series of flights. I pre-arrainged a taxi pick-up from the hotel I was to stay at, so no problems getting to Pattaya.

After arriving in Pattaya, I quickly found my way to Walking Street. I walked around visiting several bars for a couple of hours and then found "The Beach Club". It quickly became my favorite bar while in Pattaya. In retrospect I should not have taken home a girl from here that night, what with all the fatigue from the flight, but I am sure you know how things are when a pretty woman suggests going back to the motel. The cost was 2000 Baht for the whole night. Well when we got back to the hotel she was just joking and said she was a katoey. She was just kidding, but I took her seriously. I think she took offense to that. The fatigue and the beer and everything being so new set in and not pened. She did not want to do BBBJ, but eventually did. Intercourse was not much to speak of. The aconditioner was either to hot or to cold. She ended up leaving after about 3 hours. I should of just had a few beers and a massage that night and formulated a plan for the next night. Oh well, live and learn.

I was raised in a Southern Baptist home so even though intellectually I think mongering is okay, somewhere in my head I have some qualms about it. This dichotomy affected my trip. The next woman I took home was not a gogo dancer but worked in a beer bar. She was very sweet and definetely a GFE. At the start of the trip I did not want to do the same woman twice, and this was a mistake. I should have gone back to this bar girl several times. I paid 1000 baht for her and the bar fine.

I had a few other bar girls the first couple of weeks, but nothing really to write about. The next memorable woman was a waitress in one of the bars on Walking Street. I tipped her 100 baht a few times a night when I went there. After a few nights of this and asking her to come back to the motel with me, she finally agreed to come after she got off work one night. I think she was nervous for her boos to know, so I waited for her outside the bar after closing. Iwaited for about 10 to 15 minutes and she never came down so I left. A few days later I went back and asked what happened and she asked for my motel and room number. I gave it to her and left to hit some other bars. Not that night but the next night around 3 AM the phone rang and the night man said there was a woman there to see me. Thankfully I did not have another there with me as that would have been awkward. She left after about 2 hours. The sex with her was good but not great. I only had about 400 baht with me as I was not expecting anyone. She did not complain.

There are a few things I wish I had done while in Thailand. I did not have a threesome. I wish I had done that. I did do anyone anally. There are also a few things I learned. The first is to ask the girls there for what you want. They were no where near as shy and nervous as me. I should have drank less beer. The beer in bars is cheaper than coke, so I drank beer. I stayed in Pattaya the whole 2 months. I should have travveled more but money was a bit of an issue.

To sum it up it was a great place to go and I cant wait to go back, I am hoping it will be even better with a little experience.

Ciao to all,
Horatio

Doug55
02-25-05, 11:43
Hi all,

Similar to my Bkk post.
Visiting Pattaya and hoping to get an update.
From my research, the latest go-go places to visit maybe;

Super Baby
Dollhouse
Living Dolls

True/False/Any others?

Freelancer Bar is recommended. Any thoughts?

I'm staying at the Apex hotel. i'm lead to believe that it is guest friendly. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks heaps.VISIT ALL GO-GO's on Walking Street. Happy and Peppermint and Carrousel and Roof and The Sea belong on your list.

APEX is a friendly hotel. Your friends just leave their ID's with the guard by the elevator. Great swimming pool.

Dinghy
02-25-05, 18:55
Horatio - just remember that a "newbie" is only a "newbie" ONCE - you might have better luck if you reread this forum before your next trip (and read Private Dancer, too - search for it on the internet - just helps keep you out of "trouble")

Curious - how did you stay 2 months (or did you have a "real" visa? - many of the rest of us stay 28 days and then go "somewhere" for a new "tourist 30 day permit")

Dinghy
02-25-05, 19:00
Cap'n - I had pretty good luck with George Tailor about 200m south of South P'ya road on 2nd Road (right side of road if you are going south) Avoid some of the ones in "Made in Thailand" on 2nd Road - tried 2 - poor quality, slow service, sure, a low price but...

Freeler
02-25-05, 19:01
Y'all,

Some January pictures to show some of the latest changes in Pattaya.

-Police are cleaning up WalkingStreet on a regular basis, leaving the katoey bar near the big tree a safe haven for newbie tourists who are unfamiliar with tha bar's past.
-Police have a new means of transport.
-The welcome to Pattaya monument is now demolished and its replacement is taking shape: Another fukken dolphin fountain!
-Gogo girls are still a plenty on WalkingStreet.
-And last the holes in Pattaya's Beachroad are a nuisance to many.

Freeler
02-25-05, 19:20
Horatio,

Your own posts can be a huge source of information:
"I only had about 400 baht with me as I was not expecting anyone. She did not complain."

She did NOT complain.
What does that tell you?

"I should have traveled more but money was a bit of an issue."

If you had saved your B2000 on the first night, you could have taken a first class bus all the way to Chang Mai and back.

Like dinghy said: Next time you won't be a newbie. Not acting like one is different story...

BTW In case you thought differently: I like your reporting!

Member #3443
02-26-05, 04:49
Now that I have finished my Sydney,Australia posts, time to start posting the adventures from Pattaya and Bangkok. I was there before Sydney.

Went to the Golden Girls Beer Club on Soi Post Office. It is right next to the Post Office. My steady had gone to Bangkok and wouldn't be back until the next day. So went to this club. I had been there 2 years prior.

Girls were out front as usual. Picked a girl called Ahn. She was about 6.5-7. But had a nice pair up front, cute smile. All around cute, not beuatiful. Got a beer then went upstairs.

Upstairs you can either go into the BJ Bar portion or ST rooms. I bought a beer upstairs and then had her take me to an ST room. Picked the same room that I was in 2 years prior. It is a little bigger than the rest. She tunred the tv on and Porn was playing like last time.

Got undressed together and then we both went to the bathroom and washed up together. Then back to the room and got rid of our towels. Did a little chit-chat while wathcing the porn movies. Then we started DFK and hugging and grinding bodies together.

She commenced to kiss me, down my neck, and stayed at my nipples a good 5 minutes. After the nipples down my belly and belly button and then found my cock. She strated licking and stroking my cock until I was very hard. Then she gave me one of the best BBBJ's I had ever in Pattaya (had a couple fo good ones in Bangkok, will later post). She had me going for 10 minutes until I popped.

Round 2 stared about 15 minutes after round 1. She again gave me a BBBJ while I did DATY (clit only to be safe). I got so horny I just put it in her pussy reverse cowgirl styel. She only needed to pump me for a few minutes before pop 2 exploded.

Round 3. I had bought Viagra in Bangkok. Actually the generic version from India which was 600 baht for 10 tablets as compared to the regular viagra for 2000 baht. I found that it works better for me if I cut it in half and take half a dose. Had dull throbbing when I took a full dose. So she again gives me another wonderful BBBJ.

So it was 3 pops in 90 minutes with a beer and porn movies. I think I paid 1200 baht for that. Well worth it!!!!!

Nefarious
02-26-05, 15:51
Gentlemen,

My recent trip to Pattaya, Thailand left me with empty nuts, a big smile on my face, and enough left over cash for another fun trip in April. While I loved Pattaya, I've been also taking a look at Angeles City, PI. Anyone care to offer a comparison between these two hot spots? Please PM me or just post here. By the way, I was in Pattaya only 4 days, but it was a hot 4 days! There was just so much that I didn't have time to see. I didn't even make it to Walking Street! It would be hard to go anyplace else. Any thoughts?

Freeler
02-26-05, 19:32
Nefarious,

A long, long time ago I made that same comparison for an Angeles City regular. He had trouble believing any of it. Until he descended upon Pattaya...

For every 20 bars in Pattaya there is 1 at the most in Angeles.
For every 100 girls, women or skanks in Pattaya, there is 1 in Angeles.
For every 50 terrific meals in pattaya, you will have 0 (zero, none) in Angeles.
However,
For every girl, woman or skank that speaks a little English in Pattaya, you will find 500 that speak English pretty well in Angeles.


IMHO Pattaya wins hands down.

Nefarious
02-27-05, 04:24
Guys, I've often had bargirls ask me if I am married or if I have kids. I wonder if these answers make any difference to them or not. Does anyone have any thoughts on the answers to these questions? Are they sizing you up for a prosepective husband or are they just making small talk. I wonder if the service would be any different? Does it matter to them if you are married or have kids of your own? Last week I met a guy in a bar there who told me he was single, but said he tells the girls he is married so they will be more likely to give BBBJ because they think a married guy is more safe. For me it has been simply hit and miss with BBBJ (unless I was smart and remembered to include this in on the negotiation). I wasn't sure about that thinking, but she seemed dead convinced. What do you think?

For those keeping track, so far I'm still convinced Pattaya is the best palce to go. I will probably hit PI eventually, but Pattaya is just too hot to not hit again!

Rhino Tusk
02-27-05, 11:08
I'm single, and always say so. If the girl asks, "You have lady?", I always respond with "many,many". Usually have no trouble getting bbbj, without explicitly asking, after I EATY. It's more difficult to get 69. I've found most girls that refuse bj are the younger ones that haven't been in the business very long.

Gladiator
02-27-05, 17:04
Does anyone have any thoughts on the answers to these questions? Are they sizing you up for a prosepective husband or are they just making small talk. I wonder if the service would be any different? Does it matter to them if you are married or have kids of your own?

For those keeping track, so far I'm still convinced Pattaya is the best palce to go. I will probably hit PI eventually, but Pattaya is just too hot to not hit again!

It is just small talk, I’ve tried all replies and I’ve found no correlation between what you reply and the service they give you.

From my experience, around 20% of girls refuse to give head in Pattaya, especially some of the fresh girls, but if BBBJ is essential for you just ask them in advance, that way you will make sure that 100% of girls you pick up give head.

You are right: Pattaya is the best sex Mecca, IMO only Rio de Janeiro can compare in terms of excellence, but Rio is more expensive.

Dinghy
02-28-05, 05:08
Rhino - assuming you like to go down on her, "chawp lia moi dia mai" is "Like lick pussy can (question word - which is "mai")" Another silence breaker is "chawp hok-sip khao mai" Like 69 (question word)? I can't do the tones here but if you even come close, they WILL figure it out.

I haven't figured out exactly what the correct sequence for BJ is, though... FREELER? Chuay dai mai noi, khrup? Something about "soke-a-poke"? I can't even find it in my elex translator

The Traveler
02-28-05, 21:09
Rhino - assuming you like to go down on her, "chawp lia moi dia mai" is "Like lick pussy can (question word - which is "mai")" Another silence breaker is "chawp hok-sip khao mai" Like 69 (question word)? I can't do the tones here but if you even come close, they WILL figure it out.

I haven't figured out exactly what the correct sequence for BJ is, though... FREELER? Chuay dai mai noi, khrup? Something about "soke-a-poke"? I can't even find it in my elex translator
Dinghy,

small correction : "chawp lia moi dia mai" asks if she likes to lick pubic hair (the word "dai" is obsolete). I guess that's not what you want to ask her.

Better ask her "khun chop pom lia khun mai" which asks if she likes to get licked by you or in short "chop lia mai" = do you like licking ? She will know what you talk about.
Don't worry, she won't confuse it with a BJ. The thai word for sucking a dick is "om".

Good luck

Domino
03-01-05, 13:25
An Air Self-Defense Force (ASDF) member plummeted to his death from a Thai hotel where he was staying on Sunday, the Defense Agency said.

Agency officials said no suicide note has been found. ASDF troops deployed to Thailand and local police are investigating the circumstances surrounding his death.

At around 3:50 p.m., Japan time, a 35-year-old staff sergeant who was staying in a 12th-floor room of a hotel in Pathaya plunged to the ground, according to the Defense Agency. He was pronounced dead at around 7:40 p.m.

The staff sergeant, who is a mechanic of a C-130 transport aircraft belonging to the ASDF, arrived in Thailand on Feb. 17 to participate in activities to support victims of the tsunami that hit Sumatra. (Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Feb. 28, 2005)

Berty Boy
03-01-05, 15:38
Taloha,

Where exactly in BKk did you get the generic viagra for 600bt for ten. I bought some over the net 4 100mg tabs for about $30.00. I know the price has gone down now but if I can get ten when I go to BKK and PattayaApril all the better. I also agree that half a tab seems to have little or no side effects on me and last for at least 5-6 hours.

Berty Boy
03-01-05, 15:39
Taloha,

Where exactly in BKK did you get the generic viagra for 600bt for ten? I bought some over the net 4 100mg tabs for about $30.00. I know the price has gone down now but if I can get ten when I go to BKK and Pattaya in April all the better. I also agree that half a tab seems to have little or no side effects on me and last for at least 5-6 hours.

Dinghy
03-02-05, 05:40
Last price I paid for Kamagra in Pattaya was 600B for 4 (that was last year though. Cambodia prices are lower (almost half - but watch out for the Chinese blue devils - some ARE and some are NOT the "real" thing) Shop around - prices can vary

Dinghy
03-02-05, 05:53
Traveler - I guess I got ahead of myself there - I keep forgetting to put in the pronouns - but "dai" IS "can" or "able" as in "pood angrit dai mai" "speak english can (question word)" - at least that's what my adjarn keeps saying. I guess it should have been a statement - "pom chawp lia moi" and then I just thought that the "dai mai" was "can I". gad I hate trying to do Thai in romanization - the tones just don't show. khop khun, krup

M Monroe
03-02-05, 12:41
Hi guys,

Just spent 6 days in BKK and 2 in Pattaya. As far as Pattaya is concerned, I have read many of the posts and advise about the bars and gogos, and decided to just walk the streets instead. I stayed in North Pattaya, far from the real action, and managed without any effort to pick up right off the street and even in the "BIG C" Mall. Girls with interest basically smile back and begin the rap, we negotiate and the rest is history. The girls I interacted with looked clean and not too "*****ish".

I found this much less time consuming than the whole bar scene. Does anyone else agree?


MM

The Traveler
03-02-05, 20:38
Traveler - I guess I got ahead of myself there - I keep forgetting to put in the pronouns - but "dai" IS "can" or "able" as in "pood angrit dai mai" "speak english can (question word)" - at least that's what my adjarn keeps saying. I guess it should have been a statement - "pom chawp lia moi" and then I just thought that the "dai mai" was "can I". gad I hate trying to do Thai in romanization - the tones just don't show. khop khun, krup
Hi Dinghy,

"pood angrit dai mai" is just the short (and unpolite) version of "khun pood ankrit dai mai krap ?" and is equivalent to "Are you able to speak english ?" or "Can you speak english ?". In this context you have to use the word "dai" just as you said, but it doesn't make sense in context with licking. Furthermore you wanted to ask her if she likes it and not if she is able to lick, right ?

In english you wouldn't connect a statement to a question like "I like licking, can I ?" You should avoid to think in english and translate it into Thai. As already said, my understanding was that you intended to ask her if she likes licking or not. Nevertheless, "moi" is the wrong word cause it means "pubic hair". Better use "hoi" which stands for "mussel/shell" and is a slang word for pussy.
The correct word for the female crotch like a doctor would call it is "au wai ya wa pet ying".

Most girls prefer if you talk good and polite Thai instead of slang or street Thai which clearly displays where you've learned it. Even though those girls are in a dirty business they like it even more if someone is polite and kind to them. Due to that reason I rather indirectly describe what I want instead of calling it by it's name. If you do it in a funny way - and those word games are very easy in Thai due to the many meanings of a word depending on pronounciation - it's some sort of foreplay, checking their attitude and more worth than a thousand extra baht. These girls are not only out for the money as some guys try to tell us all the time. They are human beings and want to have a good time too therefore many - of course not all - do prefer a funny guy over a well paying one.

In your case you should tell her "pom chop khin hoi" which means that you like to eat mussels, but it could also mean that you like to lick and eat out pussy. If you say it with a smile she will know what you talk about. You could also tell her "dae pom mai chop khin hoi kap sauce macueataet" = "but I don't like to eat mussels with tomato sauce". She will know that you don't like her to have her period. As you see, you can address all your issues without being rude and having some fun at the same time.

I hope you didn't get me wrong, I don't want to sound like a know-it-all. Just tried to help you to avoid misunderstandings and to better your Thai.

Have fun and good luck

Member #3443
03-04-05, 20:48
Almost all the pharmacies on the Sukhumvit near Nana Entertainment Plaza.


Taloha,

Where exactly in BKK did you get the generic viagra for 600bt for ten? I bought some over the net 4 100mg tabs for about $30.00. I know the price has gone down now but if I can get ten when I go to BKK and Pattaya in April all the better. I also agree that half a tab seems to have little or no side effects on me and last for at least 5-6 hours.

Boy Toy
03-05-05, 14:08
All dear mongers,

I have been a regular visitor to BKK since the last few years, however off laste am bored of trying the same places having fucked the same girls. On a no. of friend's reccomendations, I am highly tempted to visit Pattaya this time. I am a big fan of topless dancing in go go's off late I have not been able to see any of it in BKK, hope pattaya still has topless dancing in the go go's. can anybody advise.

Have heard a lot in particular about some MP called Sabai. Any idea if these are good? Please recoomend dear mongers I am really excited, help required.

Thanks

Boy Toy

Dinghy
03-05-05, 16:42
Traveler - the best I can do here is conversation with the local pra at the nearby wat (an interesting exchange -- my adjarn is interested in improving his english; I am learning Thai) but unless I find a Thai (non-monk) I sort of can't get into the slang.) 6 months of 10-12 hours/week and the language just keeps ramping up (I find myself looking at the words in thai print to get the tones) Anyway - eek neung ahrtit ja bai brathet thai and then I can get lots of live practice

(I end most thai sentences with khrup in conversation) I guess I misunderstood the poo-ying last trip - discussion of body parts, arm ,leg ,hand... - I pointed to pussy and she said "moi" (sheepishly) - she might have said "hoi" and I misunderstood.

IF I need the "technical terms" I have an electronic translator that goes into depth with most everything - just that the screen print is so DAMNED SMALL it is hard to read except in bright light

The Traveler
03-05-05, 23:49
Dinghy

is an electronic translator any good ? Even most printed dictionaries aren't very good an contain lots of wrong translations. But trying to learn Thai from a monk sounds like a very good idea to me. This way you might learn good and polite Thai and a monk won't teach you bad words or lie to you. I have seen it quite often, that bar and gogo girls taught their customers bad words because they thought it might be funny if the guys want to order something but tell the waitress that they want to fuck her or that she got a pussyface instead. That's not funny to me and the guys can run into problems just because of a stupid chick.

So you pointed to her pussy and she said "moi" ? Guess she wasn't shaved :)
Hope you will have fun next week back in LOS.

Good luck

Pattayaprince
03-06-05, 01:56
It appears that another hotel or department store is going to be built where these bars on 2nd road between Sois 8 & 9 have been demolished. I have never posted a picture before so hope this works.

Dinghy
03-06-05, 07:06
Besta cyber dict 8 - it speaks Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, English and Thai (and I do mean speaks - just that the tones are not exactly correct -the dialogue portion is recorded and IS correct - the rest is synthesized and is more or less correct but the tones might be off. Also acts a a full PDA with MP3 and picture storage capability. Panthip Plaza. 12000 B more or less. Once I got used to the thai keyboard, it helped quite a bit just hard to read the keyboard in low light unless i use a magnifier. 29 built in dictionaries and one gig of memory on board

The monks are pretty good - I just keep learning good thai :-)

oh, and she wasn't shaved. but that was a pretty specific response

Dinghy
03-06-05, 07:16
Tahola - what I found was 10 x fifty (50) mg tabs for that price - not 10x100mg tabs. The 600 was for "branded" kamagra 100's

Toy - P'ya probably doesn't have outright topless except for the "with a lookout" version. The local gendarmarie is pretty touchy about conforming to the Bangkok ethic or they WERE 6 months ago. I get to see in another week and a half. will post a report when I get there

Malakor
03-06-05, 18:58
Rhino - assuming you like to go down on her, "chawp lia moi dia mai" is "Like lick pussy can (question word - which is "mai")" Another silence breaker is "chawp hok-sip khao mai" Like 69 (question word)? I can't do the tones here but if you even come close, they WILL figure it out.

I haven't figured out exactly what the correct sequence for BJ is, though... FREELER? Chuay dai mai noi, khrup? Something about "soke-a-poke"? I can't even find it in my elex translatorSomewhat mis-spelt, should be sok-a-prok which means dirty.

Anon Sailor
03-06-05, 23:28
Guys,

It's been awhile since I've been to Pattaya. What is the best way bus wise to get from the airport (Bangkok) to Pattaya?

Later

Konan Grit
03-07-05, 20:50
Boy Toy,

Plenty of topless go go bars in Pattaya. Quite a few bottomless too. Stay away from Soi Pattayaland and try some of the ones off Walking street.

Try Diamond Agogo in Soi Diamond off walking street, The Beach Club also off walking street, and the gogo bar up the escalators next to Marine Disco on Walking Street. All have topless and bottomless dancers. For something different try Las Vegas in Soi BJ which is off Walking street too. Solely Russian dancers who are also topless and often bottomless.

MrBlonde
03-08-05, 19:53
Is there a sanukmap style map of Pattaya? I've run across multiple maps that are either interactive,or VERY printer unfriendly, but none similar in style to the ones found on http://*************************sanukmaps/

Freeler
03-08-05, 22:06
Blondie,

Not that I know of. But there is a map that gives you an idea of what's where in the central area (BeachRoad, PattayaLand, Central Road and SecondRoad).
It is on this site somewhere, but the search function seems to be out of order:(.
Normally a search for 'Pattaya map' should get you a result...

Anonymous,

Buses every 40 mins or so from Ekamai and Morchit2 busstations from 4.30AM til 6PM. From the airport take a B120 taxi or a B10 bus to Morchit2.
Going to Ekamai from the airport is a stupid idea, so don't!

Boy Toy
03-09-05, 05:32
Thanks Konan,

I really appreciate the Info.

Thanks again,

Boy Toy


Boy Toy,

Plenty of topless go go bars in Pattaya. Quite a few bottomless too. Stay away from Soi Pattayaland and try some of the ones off Walking street.

Try Diamond Agogo in Soi Diamond off walking street, The Beach Club also off walking street, and the gogo bar up the escalators next to Marine Disco on Walking Street. All have topless and bottomless dancers. For something different try Las Vegas in Soi BJ which is off Walking street too. Solely Russian dancers who are also topless and often bottomless.

Dinghy
03-09-05, 05:38
Free/ Anon sailor

Ekkamai last bus is at ~2300. Morchit last bus is at ~1900.

Morchit is a closer cab ride (as Free says, but DEPENDING, you might be better off to ride the "airport bus" to Ekkamai for 100B IF you can get there before 2300 - and of course, IF there is a seat available on that last bus. My last trip I got in at 2100 - domestic- and got to Ekkamai about 2210 or so and that bus was just pulling out. I got one of the last 4 seats on the 2300 bus - and all they have is reserved seats - no standing room on the EXPRESS busses - not that you would WANT to stand for about 3 hours, anyway. IF you get to Morchit and there is no bus leaving, there is NOTHING I have found of a rong-ram (hotel) nearby. Also seems to be nothing going even SOUTHEAST from Morchit after 1900) BKK-Ekkamai cab ride will be in the 400B range and at that it is cost effective to find a partner and cab it to P'ya for 1500 more or less or so for the 2 of you (plus incidental tolls of maybe 100B or so).

Jaimito Cartero
03-09-05, 06:45
If you go to the upper arrival level at Don Muang, you can usually find a taxi to take to to Pattaya for 800-1000 baht.

Freeler
03-11-05, 09:27
in the pattaya mail this week:
man arrested on charges of child prostitution, pattaya taxi driver confesses to murdering english tourist and pattaya tourist police arrest finnish ****.


man arrested on charges of child prostitution

caught with business cards offering services for girls and boys

boonlua chatree

pattaya tourist police led an investigation into a thai national marketing sexual services to foreign tourists using children aged 10-15 as hired help.

foreign tourist police volunteers, acting as interested customers in a sting operation, aided in the man’s arrest. the sting took place in the day-night plaza area, and once the transaction had been made using marked bank notes, officers closed in and made the arrest.

aroon sonserm was arrested on charges of child prostitution.

aroon sonserm, 42, formerly of bangkok was taken into custody for further questioning, as were the two boys, aged 14 and 15. police also confirep001ed 85 business cards in english offering services for young girls and boys.

aroon made a tearful confession, claiming that he had to conduct this type of business to pay his rent and care for two adopted children. he had the audacity to ask police to go easy on him.

however, officers charged aroon with soliciting sexual services for children over 10 and under 15, as well as advertising such services to the public.

the investigation also discovered that aroon would walk the south pattaya streets handing business cards to potential customers, mostly foreigners.

the two boys who detained in the operation said they had both run away from home and were forced to perform the services in order to survive. they added that most of the clients were foreign men and they would receive 200-300 baht out of the total fees collected by aroon. tourist police contacted the boys’ relatives to collect them and try and keep them off the streets and out of trouble.

pol. col. supapol arunsit, tourist police region 3 superintendent said the investigation was instigated by pol. maj. gen. panya mamen, tourist police commander who had ordered that all ****s and those committing [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) offences be cleaned off the region’s streets. he added that the lengthy investigation began after a tip-off.


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pattaya taxi driver confesses to murdering english tourist

said he needed money to pay off gambling debts

boonlua chatree

a taxi driver working for a pattaya travel agency has been arrested for the murder of a 52-year-old english tourist.

the body of bernard norman le court, a chef from liverpool, was found in some bushes near soi plutaluang 52 in the sattahip district on wednesday morning march 2.

jatupol banchuen reenacts the murder of liverpool chef, bernard norman le court.

le court’s throat had been cut and he had several stab wounds to his body. the englishman’s belongings were missing, but there was over 5,000 baht in his pocket and a receipt for a taxi service to take him to don muang airport. the receipt provided the name and address of the travel company.

officers visited the company’s office and were able to learn the driver’s name and whereabouts. they then tracked him down at his jomtien home.

the suspect, jatupol banchuen, 26, was asleep when officers arrived. when awoken, allegedly his face turned pale at the sight of police.

jatupol confessed to the murder, telling police that he had a 90,000 baht gambling debt to pay off. he added that he decided to take the foreigner outside the normal route and intended to steal his money and belongings after killing him. he went on to say that he had sold all the man’s belongings and thrown the knife away, after which he then cleaned the car.

following the interrogation, police took jatupol to re-enact the chain of events. pol. lt. gen. jongrak jatunont, region 2 police commander attended the crime scene.

jatupol banchuen has been remanded to custody and charged with first degree murder and theft using a deadly weapon. he faces the death penalty if found guilty of murder.


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pattaya tourist police arrest finnish ****

caught with two naked **** boys in his hotel room

boonlua chatree

mikka pitkanen, 30, was detained for ****philia after pattaya’s tourist police, acting on a tip-off, found him inside his south pattaya hotel room with two naked boys, aged 11 and 14.

mikka pitkanen has been charged with ****philia.

police knocked on the door to find mikka with the boys engaged in sexual activities. the two boys were told to get dressed and were escorted to the station for questioning, during which time, two representatives from the pattaya orphanage were present.

the boys, who cannot be named, told police that they were with the foreigner willingly and that they perform sexual acts 2-3 times per day. they said that pitkanen gave them between 100-200 baht per day and they used the money to buy glue and drugs.

it was also revealed that pitkanen met the boys in bangkok and that he visited them every 3 months.

police charged mikka pitkanen with sexual assault of children under 15, taking children from their parents or guardians and sexual knowledge of a minor under 15 regardless if the act was consensual or not.

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Zig Zag
03-12-05, 09:23
I was wondering if anyone has been to the Castle in Pattaya. I cant seem to find to much information on the place on the net except that the drinks are very exspensive and they Charge alot to get in. But if someone has been there and can say it was worth it I am willing to give it a try.

Drowe
03-12-05, 21:09
I will be in Pattaya in a couple of weeks and would like to try something other than the 3 Sabai soapies on and around Soi 3 and and 2nd road. Does anyone out there have any suggestions or experience with other soapies?

Play1k
03-14-05, 10:26
Danger place: Sabai DEE ( at Soi 2 & Pattaya 2nd road )

The girl is rough, waiter very stupid, no any feedback on your complain except wasting your time till the end. ( 1.5 hr )?

Anyway, dont go there.

Play1k
03-14-05, 14:01
DANGER PLACE - Sabai DEE SOAPS ROOM

at Pattaya 2nd road / North Pattaya Soi 1

Woman is rough and managers not know care client's complain but cheat me till the time finished.

Sting
03-15-05, 11:05
DANGER PLACE - Sabai DEE SOAPS ROOM

at Pattaya 2nd road / North Pattaya Soi 1

Woman is rough and managers not know care client's complain but cheat me till the time finished.


well, play1k,

i believe that you have had a bad experience but i don"t think so that is a general think. i know some people there and i always got an good service.
nevertheless, i know some girls more than 5 years etc..

please be so kind what went wrong in your case...

tx..

sting

RCA Knight
03-15-05, 21:42
Sabai Dee groups have several massage parlors near Big C. I think all the prices the same in all the stores. I think 1600 for a session. I don't think they will cheat the customers. Maybe you just ran into a lousy papasan. The one next to Big C has the best selection and the service was quite good. I went there 3 times in the past and all three ladies I picked were very friendly and very into service. And papasans were friendly.

Poon Hunter
03-17-05, 14:23
When I need a massage, I always get a motorbike taxi so he gets a little cut (same price for me). They are located near walking street. Just tell him Hawai, and same price/story. Had about 50+ girls.

Poon Hunter

Ganoosh
03-18-05, 09:08
Taloha,

Where exactly in BKK did you get the generic viagra for 600bt for ten? I bought some over the net 4 100mg tabs for about $30.00. I know the price has gone down now but if I can get ten when I go to BKK and Pattaya in April all the better. I also agree that half a tab seems to have little or no side effects on me and last for at least 5-6 hours.BB,

FYI, I was in BKK last month and picked up a pack of Penagra (generic V) at KS Pharmacy on Suk (Soi 17-19, near Robinson Dept and Westin Grande hotel). Four 100mg tabs, 350THB. Asked the clerk to cut them in half for me. Didn't exactly "drink responsibly" when out on the streets, but still had desirable results with Penagra and no UNdesirable side effects, even when taking a full 100mg.

Read elsewhere that guys picked up real Viagra from KS Pharmacy for 1500-1700Baht. Kamagra also available at KS, not sure about prices though. Also heard a guy having good results with Caverta, another generic V. Should be able to pick that up in Pattaya at pharmacy on Walking St, near Lobster Pot Restaurant.

Cheers,

JFX

Ragnar
03-20-05, 05:00
I was in Pattaya for most of my trip in Nov '04 and will be returning around May '05.

Had the best trip ever this past Nov '04. Made friends with an expat who owns (ok, his girlfriend owns) a Hotel near Walking Street. He strictly rents his rooms to Americans as all his rooms are very nice & big and very under-priced. He gave me his personal room as all his rooms were booked solid. His personal room was like a suite at a major Monger Hotel. Separate bedroom with king size bed, 6 person shower, jacuzi tub, kitchen, patio with BBQ, flat-screen with surround sound, pc, ps2, stocked bar, and lit dance floor complete with go-go pole.

I spent nearly two weeks in this room and never got tired of watching the expressions on the girls faces when they walked in. I banged a lot of hot trim (2 and 3 at a time on a couple of nights) and had trouble getting a couple of the girls to leave in the morning.

My hosts' generosity is greatly appreciated and I'm planning on returning in May '05 at the latest. Anyone planning on being in Pattaya around then can PM me. I've made some great contacts this last trip, male and female.

Question: Did anyone expect the Baht to be down to 38 at this time of year? I thought it would be much higher, especially after the Tsunami. Oh well.

Ragnar

Dinghy
03-21-05, 04:49
So Rag - care to share the name of this gem?

Warberg
03-21-05, 20:22
Is there a sanukmap style map of Pattaya? I've run across multiple maps that are either interactive,or VERY printer unfriendly, but none similar in style to the ones found on http://*************************sanukmaps/I met this expression before. Wht is a sanukmap ?

Konan Grit
03-21-05, 20:39
Ragnar,

38 Baht/Dollar is pretty good when you compare how much the dollar has devalued against other currencies. Euro mongering must seem very expensive for Americans at the moment.

Ragnar
03-21-05, 23:06
Sorry guys, .my newfound friend does not wish to be mentioned on the WSG. I was lucky to have him rent me a room as he has a large list of clients and only a handful of rooms. Furhter, his guests normally pay a monthly rate. Sorry to disappoint anyone.

Ragnar

Dinghy
03-23-05, 03:25
Rag - that's why we have PM (private message) :-) Only a FEW arseholes would post (public) info someone asked them NOT to post

Warburg - "sanukmap" amounts to a location of the various "attractions" - bars/MP/hotels and some basic ratings for those attractions. it amounts to a simple way to give/receive directions and "rate" an establishment.

"sanuk" - happy or pleasure (loosely) in pasa thai (Thai language) map is "map" (not thai) Do a web search and you will find them - they moved to a yahoo group IIRC

Dinghy
03-23-05, 03:31
anybody else out there notice a slight increase in cost from about 6 months ago? (meaning in BAHT - not other currency) seems to be prices up maybe 4% or so - rooms are holding pretty much steady, tho (Poon apparently unaffected at the lower levels)

Now for the sob story - had a chance to try a newbie right out of the paddy - 19yo, I couldn't rise to the occassion even with chemical assistance. bummer. gets to be hell when you get older (would have been her first falang, she got paid even tho was sort of worthless in the sack - no assistance whatever - must have been used to young Thai poo-chai.)

Freeler
03-23-05, 06:25
Warberg,

That reminds me of that Pattayamap question (weeks ago...?)

Here's one that at least gives an indication of what's where.
And then there is three times more...

X marks BKK busstation, 2 hours:) to Ekamai or Morchit2(Sai Nua). Also vans to the airport.
M marks the former monument, now a dolphin fountain:(
O marks the Beachroad entrance to Soi 8:)
TL marks Thai limousine - they don't have the airport vans anymore:(, but they still have the limo service (Volvo, Camry)

M Marr
03-25-05, 16:37
Hello Gentleman and Jackson,

First time to post and I must say that I have finally made a decesion to visit Pattaya.
I do have several question but most I'm sure I can find the answers in these postings. One question I am going to ask about is golf in Pattaya. I found this link on the internet for prices and found them "too good to be true". Am I mistaken? Are the courses really that inexpensive? Are these courses easy to get on too play if you are not on a package deal? I guess that makes more than one question. Sorry!

Any help in this area would be most helpful!

I sure that I will have follow up questions the closer I get to my planned adventure dates (May 23 to 30). Any help with this trip is most welcome and when in Pattaya if anyone is interested in playing a round just PM me.

Thanks,

MM

Link mentioned above:

http://www.golf-pattaya.net/

Play1k
03-25-05, 20:36
well, play1k,

i believe that you have had a bad experience but i don"t think so that is a general think. i know some people there and i always got an good service.
nevertheless, i know some girls more than 5 years etc..

please be so kind what went wrong in your case...

tx..

StingAt least 3 managers had been talked with me , but they only say "our boss is not on duty today, your time is past, you have to leave here "

This is Sabei Dee.

Shedboy69
03-28-05, 17:31
M Marr,

I have been to Thailand, in particular Pattaya, for golf and mongering three times. Although each time my party booked golf over here we had the odd occasion when we fancied a round. Pick-up a baht bus from the centre of Pattaya, always agree a price before you set off, pay half on arrival at course. Most drivers will wait for you at the course.

Caddies are compulsory on every course, they cost normally about 200 baht. You will not have to touch any club apart from the one you are playing with, you do not have to mark your ball or rake bunkers either. Also on most courses there is a bar every three holes or so. It is polite at these watering holes to offer drinks to your caddie.

At the end of your round it is polite to tip the caddie, I am not going to get into a debate as to how much, but I normally give between 200 and 500 baht depending on the quality.

When you come out of the clubhouse your clubs will more than likely be back on the baht bus where you go back to Pattaya and pay the other half of the agreed fare.

I do not know the standard of your golf but if you want to PM me I will give you an idea of each of the courses I have played, in total about 15 all qithin an hour of Pattaya.

Biz99
03-29-05, 15:42
I agree with SB69 comments, but if you are on your own or with one other you may want to check out the various bars which operate golf trips. For example, the Sugar Shak runs on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and they normally hit one high end course (Lam Chabang, Eastern Star, Khao Keow, etc.), one mid level course (Pattaya Country Club, Siam, Century Bang Chang) and one cheap one each week.

About a dozen bars in Pattaya do this and you can play with a group any day Monday through Friday and pay a small amount for van transportation. If you are going to play a lot, you should get the Pattaya Sports Club membership (they have a web site) and save 25% off the green fee, except on sport days when the price is less than the discount. The PSC shows about 35 courses in the area which honor the card and a list of bars that operate golf days. Weekends are more expensive and rounds can get a bit slow some places.

To check out courses, go to Thaigolfer.com and they have the scorecards, layouts, prices, etc. for every course as well as feedback from players which can help you gauge what sort of shape the course is in at the time.

I live in Bangkok, but play in Chonburi - outside of high season it is a good deal. I normally drive myself, but transportation can be an issue if you have no wheels or do not go with the bars. Lots of places selling experienced balls on the road to each course, although price and quality vary.

Tip equal to the caddy fee and mark your own ball if you play by the rules of golf. Keep it in the fairway and have fun!

M Marr
03-29-05, 16:55
Biz99, Shedboy69 and Thumbs Up:

Thanks for the great info on Golf in Pattaya.

As I get closer to my departure date, I'm sure I will have more questions on other items of interest regarding Pattaya.

Thanks Again!

M Marr

Dinghy
03-31-05, 05:50
Heard a good one yesterday (might be an old one to most of you though)

What is the most difficult course in the world?


Intercourse - no matter how hard you try, you just can't get the balls to go in the hole

Domino
03-31-05, 05:56
The Sportsmans on Soi 13 also does golf trips. Any of you guys ever play Bkk Airport? Anybdy ever been on a plane hit by a golf ball at Bangkok?

Gladiator
04-01-05, 21:44
Today is my 7th day in the Sacred City of Pattaya and here all seems to be business as usual: plenty of meat, mostly average lookers but some gems hidden among the mediocrities, ugly East European chicks around, etc.

I'll write a report when I get to farangland if I have the time, but guys remember the tariff in the Sacred City:

ST = 500 B
LT = 1,000 B

A couple of beer bar girls were dissapointed when I gave them 500 B after a ST, which means that the BKK suckers are making their way to Pattaya too and starting to spoil this paradise.

If you want to overpay, please stay in BKK, do not come to the Sacred City!

In this internet cafe there is now a dirty arab flirting with a granny, what a pathetic sight!

RasSpewtin
04-01-05, 23:34
I'll write a report when I get to farangland if I have the time, but guys remember the tariff in the Sacred City:

ST = 500 B
LT = 1,000 B


Gladiator:
Your Pattaya rates as quoted are partially true. Here is my price summary. It is based on 6 visits to Pattaya in the last 18 months, with the last one ending a couple of weeks ago.

Short time, at Soi 6 or Jade: 200-250 room, 500 girl.

Short time, Beach Road Girl: 500. Can get one for less sometimes.

Long Time Beer Bar Girl, Soi 2 Complex: 1000.

Long Time Beer Bar Girl, Soi 7 and 8: Usually 1000, but one held out for 2,000 so I walked.

Walking Street Go-Go Girl Short Time: 500-600 bf, 1500 girl.

Walking Street Go-Go Girl Long Time: 500-600 bf, 2000-3000 girl (I have never been able to get a Walking Street go-go girl for 1500 LT, and I am not old, fat, ugly, or rude).

Soapies: 1700 the last I checked, but I only had one because it's not my thing.

If anyone has any bonafide corrections to this list, please post. Some details as to the quality of the girl or the quality of the club/bar where she worked would help to put it in perspective.

Raz

Gladiator
04-02-05, 09:22
Sorry, I didn't specify when I say to stick to ST 500 and LT 1,000 I refer to freelancers and beer bar girls, obviously you pay more in soapies and gogo girls are usually more expensive too (but who needs them?).

Anyway, I got a good-looking gogo girl out of one of the walking street gogos one night for 1,500 B LT but that was at around 2 am when it was already closing, so you can get reduced prices from gogo girls too at that time, the problem is that most cuties are already taken by then, though occasionally some good lookers are still there because they did just ST during the day or because there wasn't much pussy demand on that day.

My concern is that some beer bar girls are starting to ask for more than 500 B ST, which is unacceptable.

Boy Toy
04-02-05, 12:03
Please suggest some good soapies and gogo bars, beer bars based on these rates?

Boy toy


Sorry, I didn't specify when I say to stick to ST 500 and LT 1,000 I refer to freelancers and beer bar girls, obviously you pay more in soapies and gogo girls are usually more expensive too (but who needs them?).

Anyway, I got a good-looking gogo girl out of one of the walking street gogos one night for 1,500 B LT but that was at around 2 am when it was already closing, so you can get reduced prices from gogo girls too at that time, the problem is that most cuties are already taken by then, though occasionally some good lookers are still there because they did just ST during the day or because there wasn't much pussy demand on that day.

My concern is that some beer bar girls are starting to ask for more than 500 B ST, which is unacceptable.

Dinghy
04-04-05, 18:55
a brief field report - the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in pattaya and in bkk are basically a family operation (2 aussie brothers own them as near as i can determine. off soi dianna running parallel to buakhao between 2nd road and buakhao. signs on buakhao point the way there, too.

anyway - a clean place (new within the last 6 months any way) and they are working out a few bugs (nothing that affects service, just physical stuff - in the case of yesterday, a water pressure problem necessitating a new water pump.)

so - the basics - 600b bj, 1000b quickie, 1500b shorttime (seems just a bit high, but the quality from appearances, anyway, was pretty good - no dogs in the lot)

like i said - brief. try it if its your style, you wont be disappointed

RearWindow
04-05-05, 03:10
Sorry, I didn't specify when I say to stick to ST 500 and LT 1,000 I refer to freelancers and beer bar girls, obviously you pay more in soapies and gogo girls are usually more expensive too (but who needs them?).

Anyway, I got a good-looking gogo girl out of one of the walking street gogos one night for 1,500 B LT but that was at around 2 am when it was already closing, so you can get reduced prices from gogo girls too at that time, the problem is that most cuties are already taken by then, though occasionally some good lookers are still there because they did just ST during the day or because there wasn't much pussy demand on that day.

My concern is that some beer bar girls are starting to ask for more than 500 B ST, which is unacceptable.Make sure you update us,pheuan!

Gray Malkin
04-06-05, 00:03
Hi everybody

I was wondering if anybody has tried the escort service like Diamond Escort Service?

And how was the service or the lady's like?

Thanks,

Gray

Capt JB
04-06-05, 06:32
Gray,

If you think you need an escort service in Pattaya you should stay home. Better yet, send me $50 and I will get you all the dates you want in Pattaya.

MeatMan
04-06-05, 17:46
Capt JB,

:D

Speed Touch
04-06-05, 21:27
Gray,

Don't trust those escort agencies. They're not proper escorts, they haven't got a clue about the temples and sites of Pattaya. Best you head for the Pattaya Tourist Information Centre first.

Speed Touch
04-07-05, 22:53
...continued from bangkok section

day 4 - off to pattaya with traveler, capt jb and travelers cutie. i have to thank traveler as his knowledge of the thailand, mongering and thai language helped a lot - and made it more fun. traveler checked into a hotel near soi 2, me and capt jb at the dynasty. in the evening we headed to soi 2, and i picked up a girl that i met last year and barfined her straight away. we then all headed to walking street. since capt jb hadn't been to pattaya it was good showing him around. i think we ended up in superbaby where capt jb took a girl. i hope capt jb posts a pic of this girl.

i'll miss out a few days as i went with the same girl a number of times.

day 6 - met tuk from simon beer bar. she had a period while i was fucking her. yuk - she had to go. strike 2!

day 9 - met tik who i first met on day 7, but never bar-fined as she was coming to the end of her period. so i waited 2 days till day 9. fucked her twice during the night and early morning...but then she bled in the late morning while i was doing it. yuk, strike 3! now i was getting paranoid. tik was one of the few thai girls who had a slim body but had a great rack - no babies either. she said she used to be fat a teenager and then lost the fat.

day 11 - met a crazy girl from heaven above gogo - 5 tatoos and 2 piercings.....she was great fun and full of energy. since she was under 21 we could only go to tonys disco. its always good to get to know the girl a little bit before you get back to the hotel.

day 12 - going all around pattaya with traveler in the evening. did a few gogos, went to marine, lucifers, but couldn't find anything good - so back to soi 7/8. i got a girl who traveler and i both saw earlier. she was a bit strange, really really cute. we left her bar at 3am and i kicked her out at 5am. bad choice.

day 14 - had to have an early night as i had to get up, pack, check out and go to bkk airport. got a great girl from the soi 9 second road bars. 29yrs old, great body, face ok, but she was great in the sack. had to wake her up extra early for a morning session.

suits - i had some suits made from the recommendations made on this forum. i had few suits made from george tailor and one from sovereign tailor. both of these are next to each other close to the white rose hotel. capt jb and i found george and then spent an hour trying to find sovereign tailors using the directions frm the forum. we didn't realise it was next door to george tailor!! anyway, my impression of the suits are that there quite flimsy and not rigid. paid 3000 baht each. their a good fit, but they certainly won't last more than 10 wears. all the tailor shops seem to be the same with the shop owner getting some other thai worker to come in from outside to make the suit - the actual shop owner (lets say master tailor) will only measure you. it's like they are outsourcing the making of your suit. anyway 3000 baht is cheap but don't expect much quality! i think i'll stick to non-thai suits in future.

can definately recommend jennies opticals on second road, near soi 1 - very happy with the two pairs of specs i got.

speed touch

Khun
04-10-05, 14:53
I will be in Pattaya in a couple of weeks and would like to try something other than the 3 Sabai soapies on and around Soi 3 and and 2nd road. Does anyone out there have any suggestions or experience with other soapies?

Go to Heaven on Sukhumwit road & Pattaya Kalang crossing or otherwise gho to Happy World in Bang Saen (about 40 kM from Pattaya towards Bangkok)

The Traveler
04-10-05, 21:59
I will be in Pattaya in a couple of weeks and would like to try something other than the 3 Sabai soapies on and around Soi 3 and and 2nd road. Does anyone out there have any suggestions or experience with other soapies?
Drowe,

as khun has already suggested, try Happy World in Bang Saen. It used to be my favorite in the past.
Also Rayong has a couple of soapies, Manola used to be my preferred one.

Happy hunting

Steen22
04-10-05, 22:03
Go to Heaven on Sukhumwit road & Pattaya Kalang crossing or otherwise gho to Happy World in Bang Saen (about 40 kM from Pattaya towards Bangkok)Tell abaut : Happy World in Bang Saen (about 40 kM from Pattaya towards Bangkok

Is it a bar or?

Steen22

Kay Bee
04-11-05, 17:05
Hi,

I'm not a hardcore monger, but am planning a trip to Thailand this year as soon as there's a break from work.

Background:

Living in Hawaii which has a population that is predominantly Asian, I have particular tastes in terms of visual appeal. Had a very pretty Thai girlfriend for about two years, and through her have been exposed to many of her friends, almost all her equal or even more beautiful.

Here's the situation. Looking at the pics of all of the girls at the Classroom website, I can only find about 4 or 5 that I would want.

Questions:

- Perhaps those girls at Classroom might be better looking in person, but are those pics a good representation of what is available in Pattaya?

- Having read through *all* of the posts in the Thailand forum from 2004 onwards, there is a sense that there are higher quality girls in the places that cater to the Japanese. Is this true?

- What is the price differential for regular places, and the places that cater to the Japanese?

The Traveler
04-11-05, 21:06
Steen22,

khun and me were talking about soapies, therefore Happy World is a soapie. Besides the usual rooms and treatment they also offer suites. My friends and me used to rent out one with two bedrooms, one dining room and a sauna. Very convienient. You might order some food and have dinner in the dining room. There is a TV set where you can look into the fishbowl and call up the cuties as soon as they arrive. Let the girls serve the drinks in the sauna and while you have a drink get a BBBJ. If you come with friends have a little orgie in the bedrooms or if alone have a bigger one, all girls just for you. Interaction between the girls used to be great, they are real pros. Depending on the number of girls, time of your stay and number of cums it can be more or less expensive.

Manola in Rayong is quite similar. If you like a girl you can make an appointment and order her for your next visit.

Enjoy

J Ride
04-12-05, 11:32
Yay! I'll be in Pattaya it T minus 6 days!

Twister 2
04-13-05, 06:55
Punters,

There's a chick named Tam who advertisers on a couple of web sites, claiming to be a primo cocksucker etc. Runs a couple of girls for full service, fantasies, 3 ways, girl-girl etc. Hotel visits.

Has any of the pattaya vets heard of her? Comments on service?

I know its near on impossible not to get laid there and call-outs aren't necessary, just curious is all - her postings are pretty full on.

Cheers,

Twister

Lemon Tree
04-18-05, 20:17
Gentlemen,

With high interest I studied during the last years your reports from all over the world.

Finally I decided to focus my main interest on Asia and especially on Thailand. Well, I have learnt a lot during my time of reading your reports and I think that I understand that the Asian mentality is quite different to our European or American mentality and culture.

So when I start now in May this year my first 3 weeks trip to Pattaya I have a lot of expectations as well on the sexual as also in the cultural side of these holidays. There should be no problems fulfilling the cultural expectations. And for the best thing of life I want to ask you as the most experienced gentlemen for your advice.
Well, I am not interested in very young Thai ladies, because I am myself already middle-aged.

And I am also not searching in the first step one night stands or short time sex. What I am looking for is a well educated, intelligent and good looking Thai lady in the age of 30 till 45 years. For example let me say that the Thai lady On – Capt JP reported about her during his time of vacation in Bangkok in March this year – is such a kind of human being I am looking for.

My question to you is whether beside the beer bar scene and the go go scene is there a meeting point where to find such women. Capt JB found her in Bangkok, but are there in Pattaya hotels lobby bars where such ladies are allowed to sit around waiting for customers or are there any other meeting point. And I explicit do not mean the Beach Road!

Every serious advice is welcome, because I do not want to loose too much time in searching my vacation sweetie if I can get a good advice from these guys who have a great knowledge in the Pattaya scene. So, please don’t let me die in my own ignorance and loose too much of this precious time.

Thank you in advance,

Lemon Tree

Buggsy61
04-19-05, 22:02
A word of advice. You will be very lucky to find the kind of women you are looking for in Pattaya. If you have not been there before it can blow your mind and some guys cannot handle it.

The last thing you want to do is fall in love with a bar girl as it will give you a lot of pain I can assure you. Go to Pattaya, have a good time, love the girls a little but DO NOT fall in love.

Pattaya is paradise for guys who do not get attached and I have had some fantastic times there.

For long term you are probably better looking on the internet and finding someone who has a 9-5 job in Bangkok or something.

Buggsy

Duniawala
04-21-05, 05:24
What I am looking for is a well educated, intelligent and good looking Thai lady in the age of 30 till 45 years. For example let me say that the Thai lady On – Capt JP reported about her during his time of vacation in Bangkok in March this year – is such a kind of human being I am looking for.

Lemon Tree

I haven't seen anyone like that in Pattaya. However, quite a few available in BKK. I meet one quite regularly in the Thermae. She is there around 10-11 pm. She is 40 but has a great body. I have a bad time remembering her name but I have posted her pic last year. She is pretty good looking (IMHO) and quite fair skinned. Do a search and you will see her. She sppeaks quite good english and you can take her to Pattaya.

Good luck

Gladiator
04-21-05, 20:22
Lemon Tree,

I see you’ve done your homework very well, you’ve studied this site and you have finally selected The Sacred City of Pattaya as your destination. Congratulations! You couldn’t have made a better decision.

However, I think your approach is not the most adequate, Pattaya is not really a place to look for educated, intelligent women. I’ve never seen an intelligent girl in Pattaya (or anywhere else for that matter), Pattaya is a place to choose among 1000’s of pussies, enjoy them and move on to the next one, once you start chain-fucking the many sacred holes of Pattaya you will comprehend the sacred nature of this city.

I would advise you to reconsider your approach, I would forget about looking for educated women, I spent many years at university myself and that didn’t make me a better fuck, look instead for the best performers between the sheets, the bed masters, those are the ones that posses the ultimate truth.

Naughty
04-22-05, 00:56
For what you want, L.T., Pattaya is not the place. In fact, IMHO, it is the last place you should go to find what you describe. Unfortunately, to find what you are apparently seeking, your best bet is to become friends with a respectable Thai man and allow him to make the arrangements for you, but that won't happen in three weeks.

I suggest you go to either Hua Hin or Phuket (where tourists are now needed badly) if you want the beach scene, or even up-country to a city like Sukhothai or maybe Nong Khai (where you might meet a Lao lady).

Even BKK would be better for you than Pattaya if you aren't just into it for the sex but it's such an off-putting madhouse there. If I was you I'd head to Hua Hin for a few days and then if that wasn't clicking I'd head to Phuket and try to hook up with a tsunami widow. Maybe even one who is trying to find a good man to help her rebuild the business her late hubby used to run!:)!

Hedonist
04-22-05, 05:28
Lemon Tree:

I think Pattaya will disappoint you big time. Most girls in Pattaya are totally ignorant and can't speak English well enough to carry out an intelligent conversation. So, in Pattaya the best think to do is just to turn off your mind and fuck like there's no tomorrow. If you are looking for middle aged and intelligent women I recommend considering Russia and Ukraine.

I'll be in BKK and Pattaya from June 7 until June 21.

ManonsanBoy
04-22-05, 10:28
[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Gentlemen,

Lemon Tree

And I am also not searching in the first step one night stands or short time sex. What I am looking for is a well educated, intelligent and good looking Thai lady in the age of 30 till 45 years. For example let me say that the Thai lady On – Capt JP reported about her during his time of vacation in Bangkok in March this year – is such a kind of human being I am looking for.


You will not find that in Pattaya. It is the most "supermarket" of all the spots. That is how it is positioned.

The ones you finf are serendipetous. Don't count on it. Just enjoy the flesh, even if you are middle age.

Arris Sung
04-22-05, 12:58
And I am also not searching in the first step one night stands or short time sex. What I am looking for is a well educated, intelligent and good looking Thai lady in the age of 30 till 45 years. For example let me say that the Thai lady On – Capt JP reported about her during his time of vacation in Bangkok in March this year – is such a kind of human being I am looking for.

My question to you is whether beside the beer bar scene and the go go scene is there a meeting point where to find such women. Capt JB found her in Bangkok, but are there in Pattaya hotels lobby bars where such ladies are allowed to sit around waiting for customers or are there any other meeting point. And I explicit do not mean the Beach Road!Think about how irrational this question is. You want a non-pro woman with these qualifications who would be willing to meet a complete stranger and presumably end up having sex with that stranger within 3 weeks. What exactly is it that you have to offer that will provide incentive for that?

If a random stranger were to visit your home country with the same requirements and asked your advice on how to proceed, what would your answer be?

Gladiator
04-23-05, 00:47
2005: A SEX ODYSSEY



PART 1: THE SACRED CITY


The sheer mention of Pattaya makes my heart beat faster. Despite having been there a few times I still think of each visit as if it was the first, as if Pattaya had something new to offer each time, because Pattaya is in fact an unlimited monger universe.


1. The First Day


The bird of paradise landed in BKK at around 2 pm, it was raining heavily, I went up the escalators towards the departures lounge, approached the first taxi driver I saw and negotiated a rate of 1,000 B plus tolls (95 B) for a ride to Pattaya. There was some traffic so the journey took almost 3 hours. The driver was a good guy: he didn’t open his mouth during the whole trip.

The closer we got to Pattaya the less clouds there were in the sky.

Arriving in Pattaya for a monger is like arriving home, it was around 5 pm and there were already loads of pussies all over the place, especially around the area where my hotel was, in soi 8.

I had a cold beer, showered and relaxed a bit in the terrace looking at the blue sky of the Sacred City and feeling the kisses of the sun-god.

At about 7 pm I started my first hunting operation: I turned on the radar, went out of the hotel, looked around soi 8, then on to soi 7 and in one of the beer-bars I saw a little cutie that deserved some attention, so I sat to have a drink with her to check if she had the right attitude.

She was really cute and her skin was very smooth, but a bit hardcore to my taste in spite of being just 19 yo, but I was so horny at this stage that didn’t give any importance to her slightly hardcore attitude and took her to my room. Her attitude in the room was even more hardcore, even mechanical. In a country where some girls initiate in the art of hooking at the age of 10-12 yo we shouldn’t really be surprised when we come across 18-19 yo chicks who are already fully-certified hardcores.

The ST was uninspiring, but worth it for 500 B – she said 500 B wasn’t enough and asked for 500 B more, I told her to get lost and went out again in search of my second pussy, which I found about 3 hours later in soi 8 – that was funny, after having walked all over Pattaya from the soi 2 beer-bar area to Walking Street I ended up hunting my second pussy in soi 8, the point where I started.

The second pussy was 18 yo, a natural beauty, new to the scene, no English, just as I like them: fresh and eager to please, good oral skills but not very sophisticated fucking repertory; she was into it, she knew she was in the Sacred City where mongers have usually high expectations and she tried hard. 500 B for a ST, she looked quite happy with it.

It was already past midnight so I headed to Marine disco (in Walking Street) to listen to some good trance music and have a few drinks. The current prices in Marine are: Singha beer 150 B, Johnnie Walker Red Label 150 B, Johnnie Walker Black Label 155 B. With the help of Johnnie and trance my mind started to get into new dimensions of happiness, till they suddenly closed at 2 am.

It was still early so I went along Walking St looking for a go-go to have a few more drinks, the only one still open was Highway Star, at the entrance there was a good specimen in a black dress, I spoke briefly to her, got in and asked for a beer. There were a few cuties on stage, then a couple of English guys went on stage too and did a full strip-tease, in fact the drunk English guys were much more enthusiastic than the chicks dancing around the pole.

I stayed there almost an hour till they closed and then took the chick in black with me without paying any barfine as the gogo was already closing. The chick said she was hungry, I was slightly drunk and felt generous so I bought a 30 B dinner for 2 at one of the street stalls, the chick was really grateful, we ate it on the songathew on our way to the hotel.

The third pussy behaved very well between the sheets, she was in her early 20s and had lived in Pattaya for 7 years so she had had the time to polish her bedroom skills. I was so impressed with her fucking skills that I decided to LT her.

It had been a long day, I now deserved to sleep a lot of hours and wake up with a proficient pussy next to me, that is the point of a LT, it saves you time in the morning, it also serves as perfume for the room, I love the smell of pussy, especially of Asian pussy, which is light, hardly perceptible, almost ethereal.

I caressed the third pussy with my right hand while I was falling asleep, with the AC noise as background music, it was the end of my first day in the Sacred City and I still couldn’t believe I was there, in the most sacred place on Earth.

Naughty
04-23-05, 13:36
Every time I see your screen name here I think "he ate her, and he was Gladiator" :).

If there was a Pulitzer for monger reporting, that "Sex Odyssey" post would have wrapped it up for this year!

Stringer Bell
04-24-05, 03:52
Located in Pattayaland 2 the Classroom is an overpriced dinosaur that has outlived its usefullness. Very few decent girls, alot of them having shit attitudes , servers have shit attitudes as well . No shows and no showing. The bar is somewhat clicky as well. The management sits in a corner watching the televison coversating with one another, no hello how are I'm such and such the manager/owner(Mistys is very good at this).

Longtime barfine 700baht, shortime barfine 500, if go shortime they girl take you to a room across the street, room charge 200. Ladies asking fot 2000LT, 1000 ST. A ladies drink is an outrageous 130 baht and a draft is 60 baht, bottled beer is 95. So total cost for a shortime including a draft and 1 ladies drink is is 1890. Be reminded, you don't get to see the girls body due the extensive nature of the various outfit the girls wear, so if you hate stretch marks you won't see them till you get to the room. I doubt any of you buy fresh vegatables without getting a good look and squeeze. I'm not a cheap charlie, but I want value for my money, classroom doesn't provide it period.

Example compare the Classroom fees to the Nevada's Club fees, a 300 baht shortime including room and the girl getting 500-1000, a draft is 60, ladies drink 95 and you get to see the goods sometimes naked on stage, total shortime cost including 1 drink for you and the lady starts around 955 up to about 1455. A savings of 435, mutiple that by 10 days comes out to 4350, that gets you that extra stunner. Simple basic math. Nevada crushes these guys into the ground.

No other gogo charges 700 baht barfine for a non showgirl, everyone else is 500-600 for non showgirls and everyone on Soi Diamond and Walking Street show and have shows. No other gogo charges 130 baht for a non alcoholic ladies drink, everyone else charges between 90-100.

So lets see here, they overcharge, have crap service, crap girls, no shows and the girls don't show. So why go, you wanna fly 14-24 hours for this crap, fine "Up to you" Not me, period. This bar should be used as the poster child for everything thats is wrong with Pattaya wasteland 2.

Stringer Bell

Stringer Bell
04-24-05, 03:57
Hello fellow boardies, my name is Stringer Bell. I've just returned from Pattaya and I'd like to share some of my thoughts concering the gogo bars. I'm semi retired and spend about 6-7 months of the year in Pattaya. I've posted some these post on other boards.

First the Classroom Pattayaland soi 2

Located in Pattayaland 2 the Classroom is an overpriced dinosaur that has outlived its usefullness. Very few decent girls, alot of them having shit attitudes , servers have shit attitudes as well. No shows and no showing. The bar is somewhat clicky as well. The management sits in a corner watching the televison conversating with one another, no hello how are I'm such and such the manager/owner(Mistys is very good at this).

Longtime barfine 700baht, shortime barfine 500, if go shortime they girl take you to a room across the street, room charge 200. Ladies asking fot 2000LT, 1000 ST. A ladies drink is an outrageous 130 baht and a draft is 60 baht, bottled beer is 95. So total cost for a shortime including a draft and 1 ladies drink is is 1890. Be reminded, you don't get to see the girls body due the extensive nature of the various outfit the girls wear, so if you hate stretch marks you won't see them till you get to the room. So if you don't like stretch marks you have to do afeel and search. I doubt any of you buy fresh vegatables without getting a good look and squeeze. I'm not a cheap charlie, but I want value for my money, classroom doesn't provide it period.

Example compare the Classroom fees to the Nevada's Club fees, a 300 baht shortime including room and the girl getting 500-1000, a draft is 60, ladies drink 95 and you get to see the goods sometimes naked on stage, total shortime cost including 1 drink for you and the lady starts around 955 up to about 1455. A savings of 435, mutiple that by 10 days comes out to 4350, that gets you that extra stunner. Simple basic math. Nevada crushes these guys into the ground.

No other gogo charges 700 baht barfine for a non showgirl, everyone else is 500-600 for non showgirls and everyone on Soi Diamond and Walking Street show and have shows. No other gogo charges 130 baht for a non alcoholic ladies drink, everyone else charges between 90-100.

So lets see here, they overcharge, have crap service, crap girls, no shows and the girls don't show. So why go, you wanna fly 14-24 hours for this crap, fine "Up to you" Not me, period. This bar should be used as the poster child for everything thats is wrong with Pattayaland 2.

Stringer Bell

Stringer Bell
04-24-05, 04:06
Diamond is no longer an up and coming gogo, it is a now a major PLAYER/FORCE to be reckoned with on the gogo bar scene. First 500 baht barfine, bucking the trend of 600, you pay the bar the girls can go period, no hemming and hawing about shows, lack of girls. Showgirls barfine is 1000 baht. Second IMHO the best shows. The shows are great slightly better than Living Dolls Showcase and easily outclassing Hooties and Mistys. The girls want 2000 longtime, not once did I hear a 2500-3000 baht price tag. . Third bottled beer is 95 vice up towards 110-120 at other gogos also ladies drinks are 90. Alot of good looking girls, and they're getting more, one of my regulars left The Sea for Diamond, shes happier. I've always had a good time here, never had a problem. Very good Thai owner, who added a Falang partner named Ricky who if my sources are correct used to run Angelwitch in Bangkok, makes sovling the eventaul problem easier.

A very well run gogo that has moved from very competent status to superb status. This bars improvement combined with the streets addition of the Super Model club with Naughty Girls rise to competantcy helps cement Soi Diamonds status as the dominant nitelife district in Pattaya, with Walking Street falling a little further behind(Hooties downturn and the demise of Electric Blue) but still 2nd best gogo bar area and Pattayaland a extremely distant 3rd and really becoming a non factor.

Stringer Bell

Gladiator
04-24-05, 04:24
(Next part of my trip report)


2. The temples of love


I woke up at around 2 pm the following day, the go-go girl seemed to have been awake for a while but, like all girls, she was lazy so didn’t mind to stay in bed waiting for me to wake up and fuck her.

I placed my right hand on her bush again and thought how beautiful it was to start a new day in Pattaya, then I fucked her goodbye and gave her 1,000 B. She asked me to go to the go-go and see her again another day.

From this moment onwards I followed every day roughly the same routine: I woke up each afternoon, I had sex with whoever was in my bed, I went swimming in the hotel swimming-pool and then sunbathed for a while. Later on, I’d go to the beach and sit on one of the sun-beds to contemplate the sunset, I liked to see how the sun-god hid each day behind the clouds on the horizon. That indicated the start of the hunting period because I am a night predator.

The daily hunting process was complex and usually long but it paid off in the end. In fact, I wasn't just looking for hookers to get laid: I was looking for gems.

The gems of nature are the raison d’etre of my sex trips, especially in Pattaya, a town where with a bit of legwork you can find true gems: beautiful, non-hardcore, unspoilt, fresh, quasi-innocent, straight off the farm specimens.

Pattaya is a dynamic monger universe where each day there are new gems entering and leaving the scene, you never know what you’ll find next as there may be always new flesh just around the corner. But the gems are not openly exposed, they are hidden among all the mediocrities, and that’s why a thorough search is necessary in order to find them.

There was the odd day when I couldn’t find any gem, so on those occasions I cut my losses and hunted any other doable TG that caught my eye.

After sunset, I usually checked first Beach Road, now that they have put those Copacabana-style lights illuminating the beach it’s easier to evaluate the quality of the stock, which overall tends to be low or average at best but at times you can strike gold. Then I moved on to the soi 7 & 8 area, combing all the beer-bars and checking out each single TG (not an easy task, by the way). The next target was soi 6, there are some gems here too, some of them hidden inside the bars, and finally I’d explore the soi 2 beer-bars area. This itinerary was usually enough to find what I was looking for, though occasionally I had to continue my search by going to South Pattaya.

After midnight I always hit Marine to listen to good trance and drink a few Johnnie’s till they closed and then I had a few more drinks around South Pattaya - despite the clampdown there are a few joints going on, even with music, till around 4-5 am each day.

This way I started to hunt down chicks mercilessly, as if there was no tomorrow, because in Pattaya actually there is no tomorrow, there is just today: the present moment takes over all your thoughts, it is a timeless town.

After hunting each chick the next step was exploring her sacred temple, its magic smell, its humid and silky touch and above all its grab.

Some of Pattaya’s temples are warm and welcoming, others are difficult to penetrate, enigmatic, inaccessible and you get the feeling that you are in fact desecrating them.

The mind-blowing number and concentration of temples is what makes Pattaya a sacred place, this is what attracts thousands of pilgrims like me year after year.

In a way, it is a stressful experience: you are leaving one temple and you start thinking already of the next one, and then the next one, you never see the end of the road in Pattaya, it is a never-ending cycle. At times I felt like Heracles trying to kill the Hydra: he cut off its heads and new heads grew back immediately.

When I think of my last 8-day pilgrimage to Pattaya, an amalgam of blue skies, sunshine, lovely temples, smiles, trance, Singha and Johnnie’s comes to my mind.

A trip to Pattaya is a spiritual journey.

Stringer Bell
04-24-05, 04:31
Superbabies, one of the the cornerstones of Soi Diamond dominance. Still a good gogo, definitely in the top 5 or 6. Diamond a gogo is cheaper, has a few more stunners at the top level and has better shows as of now, but Superbabies has always had staying power over the years. They're still lots of young cuties in this bar. I still haven't encountered the Ice Princess or buy me drink scenario others have described on other boards. Actually I've had quite a ball numerous times, buying drinks melts them down. Ladies drinks are now 100 baht, mixed drink is 100, bottled beer is 110, no happy hour.

The barfine is still 500 for all the girls including the showgirls (a good deal for a showgirl when compared to 800 for a Hooties showgirl, 1000 for a Living Dolls Showcase showgirl, Diamond showgirl and finally the topper 1500, thats not a typo before 11pm 1500 for a Mistys showgirl lowered to 600 after 11pm if she has performed in the show). Also you pay the bar you take the girl no problem, alot of the girls prefer shortime, thats ok, get a quickie at 8pm-9pm, find another somewhere else. They will go shortime to your room or you can use the Diamond hotel. I took one lady st she was very good, no ice princess tendacies . The ladies ask for 1500st and 2500lt, this can be negotiated of course. They have the ping pong balls cost 20 baht per ball, the standard cost per ball in every bar that has them(except Mistys which charges 25 per ball).

Superbabies has been accused of being expensive for a girl in the past. So lets look at some longtime costs for bars known for shows here just for the girl and the barfine, and we'll assume your not a good negotiator, so in some cases you'll be asked for 2500lt in Superbabies, Hooties, Living Dolls Showcase, Happy, but you can insert 1500 and 2000 vice 2500 if your a great negotiator. Mistys and Diamond I used 2000 for lt, I've never been asked for 2500 in either bar.

Liv Dolls Show:

Barfine:Noneshowgirl: 600
Barfine:Showgirl: 1000
Longtime cost: 2500
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 3100/3500

Superbabies:

Barfine nonshow girl: 500
BarfineShowgirl: 500
Longtime cost: 2500
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 3000/3000

Hooties:

Barfine nonshow girl: 600
Barfine Showgirl: 800
Longtime cost: 2500
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 3100/3300

Mistys:

Barfine nonshow girl: 600
Barfine Showgirl: 1500
Longtime cost: 2000
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 2600/3500

Happy:

Barfine nonshow girl:550
Barfine Showgirl:550
Longtime cost: 2500
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 3050/3050

Diamond:

Barfine nonshow girl: 500
Showgirl: 1000
Longtime cost: 2000
Total cost: nonshowgirl/showgirl 2500/3000

If your a good negotiator you can knock off 500 of the overall cost of the lady. Looking at the above index Superbabies, Happy, offer the best deals for a showgirl due to the 500-1000 lower barfine than Living Dolls Showcase, and Mistys, inspite of Happy/Superbabies girls getting more longtime. It comes down to who you want to have get the majority of your money.

Choice A: the bar.

Choice B: the girl whose going to suck my dick.

Up to you.

For a normal girl they're competative, but Diamond and Mistys have a definte edge of 500 and 400 respectively. So Superbabies isn't really the most expensive, its safe to say its competative. I've asked at all of the above bars how much the non show girls ladies recieve from the barfine, all replied 100 baht. But I neglected to ask how much the showgirls recieve from there barfines, especially the 1500. I'll just have to do more research.

I apoligize if my cost index is clumsy. Computer literacy is not my strongpoint.

Stringer Bell

Stringer Bell
04-24-05, 04:35
A new gogo on Soi Diamond, its on the same side as Diamond agogo, with the Ladyboy gogo sandwhiched between them.

Super Models has made a good start. Happy hour prices 49 baht, 55 baht draft beer. Gogo has 2 floors, the show are on the second floor. Regular bottled beer I didn't buy, or a regular drink I think was 100-110(I was pretty enthralled with the show and a cutie at this time to care). A 2 tiered barfine system, regular dancers 600, showcase ladies 700 and they stay till 12, can leave after the show is over, which are very watchable. Good lesbo, show good candle wax show. Not thrilled about waiting to 12 though.

Very very few beauty challenged bar girls work her, no grannies at all, quite a few 6-8 types, 2 stunner types (IMHO). I wasn't pestered for ladies drinks which cost about 95-100(I was busy watching the hot wax show). The girls quoted me 2000-2500 lt, st 1500, before negtiations. So they're going with the pre negotiated standard rates. No gimmicks just a good solid gogo, the girls I bought drinks for stayed put unless they were dancing, no butterflying from table to table manipulating 3 guys for drinks. A fine addition to Soi Diamond helping further solidifying that areas gogo dominance, definetely better than anything Pattayaland offers. This gogo has made a good start.

Stringer Bell

Lemon Tree
04-24-05, 07:17
Gentlemen

First let me say thank you for the different comments you wrote in answering my question and the private email I’ve got too. As it seems I have to work hard and look around in the scene to find what I want to find. And I assure you that I will write my report as fast as I can when I am back in Europe at the end of month May and give you a detailed description about what I found out.

To Mr. Arris Sung I want to say that I of course do not expect to spend my time with a non-pro woman in Pattaya. I read a lot of information’s and books before I decided to make my trip to the land of smile. The most important and informative and astonishing book for me was titled “ Thailand, a cultural shock “ And I know that you can meet regular women at the front desk of the hotel you check in and these are the only one’s who speak with a farang because of their business.

But that is my fault because I am in the moment not able to speak Thai language ( puut Thai mai dai ??? hope it is right and I can pronounce when I meet a Thai person who will ask me whether I understand Thai or not )

To Mr. Hedonist I can say that I agree with you recommending the women from Russia and Ukraine. I know a lot of women in the counties, especially in the city of Voronezh in Russia.

So finally let me say that I can hardly expect to start my vacation and find out whether it is impossible to meet a well educated good looking middle aged woman in this sacred city, who wants to spend her time with me.

Enjoy your time - we only have one life.

Domino
04-24-05, 08:21
Dear Gladiator

I have read your posts with interest. I note you are having no problem paying skanks the going rate and are not overpaying them, the go go skanks in particular.
I am interested in your approach. As religion should be a communal event, I wonder do you believe some of these skanks should be offered up to the sun god at sunrise and sunset?
I also note your handle has a touch of the Roman circus to it. Do you believe that these women exist, like so many gladiators did, for our amusement? Do you believe we should be able to buy them really long time just like Roman slaves? (My dream is to build a large house on Pattaya's outskirts with stables for a few skanks round the back: farmers don't like to keep livestock in the house). Have you had any luck buying skanks to service each other? How about getting them to perform in public places? Any luck there?

One more thing, Gladiator. How did you get around to all those sois? Do you have your own chariot or are you an infantry man?

Dominus vobiscum

Freeler
04-24-05, 09:44
Domino,

Time for another namechange, I'd say.
How about Dominictus XVI aka Da Pope.

BTW, I heard some geek say Ex Vee I, as in Subaru XVI Worldralleycar...

Gladiator
04-24-05, 20:43
I am interested in your approach. As religion should be a communal event, I wonder do you believe some of these skanks should be offered up to the sun god at sunrise and sunset?

That is a great idea, I'd sacrifice the overpriced ones, the lady-boys and the like, but I'd do it at sunrise.


I also note your handle has a touch of the Roman circus to it. Do you believe that these women exist, like so many gladiators did, for our amusement?

Definitely, if you think of it women haven't really got any other use apart from sex.


Do you believe we should be able to buy them really long time just like Roman slaves? (My dream is to build a large house on Pattaya's outskirts with stables for a few skanks round the back: farmers don't like to keep livestock in the house). Have you had any luck buying skanks to service each other? How about getting them to perform in public places? Any luck there?

I wouldn't keep them as slaves, it might affect their attitude (and service), it'd be best to leave them out of the house, as they are now, so that they continue with the delusion that they are free.

I would prefer to set up an Epicurean school rather than a Roman stable of slaves. As in Epicurus' Garden, hookers would turn up whenever their souls were in need of some help.

As for getting them to perform in public, I'd prefer to import some hot Brazilians who are natural-born exhibitionists.


One more thing, Gladiator. How did you get around to all those sois? Do you have your own chariot or are you an infantry man?

I am an infantry man, but some times I got on one of those songathews driven by slaves.

Gladiator
04-24-05, 20:59
(Next part of my trip report)


3. Other trophies


I already talked about my first 3 trophies in this debauchery: the hardcore, the newcomer and the go-go girl. I will now describe the other trophies, though I am not going to do it chronologically since, apart from the first and last days, I am unable to remember when I fucked whom.

So, in no particular order, the other pussies I hunted were as follows:

Miss BBBJCIM

She caught my eye straightaway when I saw her dancing in the beer-bar right in the corner of soi 2, she was short, lively, young, energetic, beautiful and was wearing a nice long-sleeved dress. I jumped on her like a hungry cheetah, she passed the attitude test with high marks so I recruited her. Her ID said she was currently 19 yo and would turn 20 on 1st January 2006.

On the bed she was as energetic as in the bar, she was fluent in BBBJ, she had a creative mind, a powerful mouth and a fast tongue.

For a moment I thought about ending in her mouth, but on second thoughts I decided to move on to her temple, which turned out to be extremely tight, it was like trying to fuck the wall at first, though it gradually started to give up. The grab, however, was too strong for my liking so after a while I went back to her mouth.

She kept on sucking enthusiastically till the volcano finally erupted in her mouth, without giving any warning. To my surprise, she was unperturbed by the eruption, she didn’t swallow, but she continued blowing hard as if nothing had happened.

As usual, when a girl keeps sucking hard after you’ve just come pleasure starts to turn into slight pain because of the extreme sensitivity of that post-orgasm period, but I didn’t stop her. The pain started to increase, I was fighting against myself to see how long I could resist that cock-sucking sadist, I was sure she knew it was painful at this stage, maybe that was her revenge for having finished in her mouth, or maybe it was just part of a more general revenge against farangs – let’s not forget that all these girls at bottom hate us.

In the end I told her to stop and push her head slightly away from my severely punished tool. She smiled at me, it was a sadistic and cum-stained smile.

The student

She had turned 18 yo recently, she spoke no English at all, she was hidden behind the bar of one of the beer-bars in soi 8, reading a book. I found her by pure chance as I had sat at that bar because it was a good observation point to check out all the chicks in the surrounding bars, and when I went up to the bar to ask for a Singha I saw her sitting there reading, there is no way you could see this gem just walking along the street.

Her friend, a hardcore, was introducing her to the scene, she said she was studying in her hometown and had been in Pattaya just 3 days; I believed her, this girl was pure innocence, as it turned out it was too innocent (that no-smoke sort of innocence). Her pussy was really tight too.

This is the kind of girl that I would like to have stayed with for quite a few days, her skills were non-existent, so I would have been her tutor, I would have shown her the path of light.

If only I had had the time…

The Panther

I had seen her on several occasions in one of North Pattaya beer-bars, but she was always taken, she seemed to be in high demand because of her exotic beauty, till I found her on her own one day.

I found her dark skin very attractive, she was slim and walked like a panther.

Her technique was acceptable for her age (20 yo) and she was sweet and cuddly, her bum was also quite good: fleshy and hard, just as I like it.

The Angel

Her bright, young smile stood out among all the mediocrities that surrounded her in that bar in soi 8, I went over to speak to her and then sat on one of those comfortable sofas for the attitude test.

She passed the test with no problem, she had a bubbly personality, a magical smile, she was an angel.

Her age was 21, but was relatively new to hooking and still unspoiled, her body was immaculate: no scars, no babies, just a velvety, perfect, white skin. It was funny that she had long hair in her pussy, the only long-haired pussy I came across in this trip, but she said she liked things as they are by nature.

She turned on the TV while I was preparing a drink, there was news about the Pope, apparently he was ill (again!), but she didn’t give any importance to it, she must have been hearing about the Pope’s illnesses since she was born so I guess that news bored her.

Her BBBJ was quite good, she even tried to deep-throat me and did her best. I loved her pussy, it had the right grab, not too strong, not too loose, just the perfect grab.

The hardcore

I couldn’t find any gem on that day so ended up hunting this 25 yo hardcore in one of the beer-bars in North Pattaya, she was cute though.

Nothing special, just an average good fuck with a hardcore.

She was disappointed when I gave her 500 B after the ST, but I reminded her that those were the going rates (500 B ST & 1,000 B LT) and there was no problem.

The Beach Road Star

I had walked Beach Road endless times at that stage of my trip without seeing anything fuckable, then I saw this chick: 18 yo, dark-skinned, slim and a beautiful, pleasant face.

I thought it would be another tight pussy, but it turned out to be quite spacious and humid, one of the most welcoming pussies of the trip. She had also a decent oral repertory.

The Lady Fish

I paid a visit to Sabai Room, I am not into MP’s very much but I like to go from time to time.

1,600 B for 1.5 hours and she behaved very well so I gave her a 300 B tip, which she appreciated.

She was in her late 20’s and was cheerful and fun to be with, in soapies attitude is the name of the game. Luckily she didn’t have any nasty childbirth or stretch marks despite her age, so I had a good time. She said she was a lady fish when we were in the bath.

The GFE

There is at least one in every trip: they go the extra mile, they treat you like a long-time boyfriend, they are difficult to get rid of and, most importantly, they provide great sexual experiences due to their dedication and enthusiasm.

She was great for LT’s, I repeated a couple of times. After doing my daily hunting I used to go, late, to her bar, hidden in the internal section of the soi 2 beer-bars area, and there she was, then I’d recruit her for LT. She was the perfect end for a great hunting day: she had the attitude, the beauty, the skills and the youth (21 yo).

She had also a Norwegian boyfriend who phoned her once while we were in the terrace of my room. ‘I am alone now’ she said to the sucker while I stroked her pussy and licked her neck. When she finished the conversation she told me he wasn’t really her boyfriend but just a friend, as if I cared.

I recruited her for my last night, but when we got to the room she said she didn’t feel like having sex and made up some silly excuse. I hadn’t told her it was my last night, I never do. Maybe she saw in myself some sucker potential too and was now trying to play games, but I couldn’t afford to waste my time with a non-performer on my last night in the Sacred City, so I kicked her out of the room straightaway with no money and went out in search of a new pussy. She looked shocked and didn’t even open her mouth.

It was almost 3 am and I was angry, it was too late for a proper hunting operation, at that time the best option was to check out South Pattaya, and even so it was going to be a difficult, almost impossible, mission to find a gem.

Then I remembered the Diamond.


The Diamond

Among the gems of nature there are some of particular beauty and delicacy, they are the brightest, the purest specimens: they are the diamonds.

I had seen the Diamond a few days back in one of the bars in soi BJ, but she was already taken. Even so I sat at the bar to have a Singha just to contemplate her. She noticed that I was looking at her but didn’t say anything to the monger that was with her. Contemplating her beauty was utterly absorbing.

The following day I went past the bar but she wasn’t there, then I decided to forget about her, there were too many pussies in Pattaya to keep chasing this one, even if she was a diamond.

Now, at around 3 am on my last night I remembered her again and went up to her bar to try my luck for the last time.

Soi BJ was a bit dark at this time, the music was off but the bars were still open though there weren’t many customers.

As soon as I approached her bar I saw the Diamond was there – I still can’t believe my luck -, there were no customers at all in that bar. The Diamond seemed to remember me and she came and sat next to me, I bought a lady-drink for her. The Diamond spoke no English, as I had imagined she was relatively new in the art of hooking.

I didn’t even finish my drink as I was eager to enjoy that outstanding specimen. Before leaving the bar I checked her ID: she had turned 18 yo only a few weeks ago.

When the Diamond took her clothes off her brightness was even more intense. As I expected from a fresh girl like her, she lacked the necessary bedroom skills, but her beauty and sweet attitude made up for it. Her temple wasn’t very tight, it was the right size, warm, increasingly wet and extremely beautiful. I couldn’t help the temptation to taste her clit: it tasted like heaven.

The next morning I got up early, at around 11 am, had great sex with the Diamond again and then looked through the window, it was raining for the first time since I had arrived.

I was taking the bus to Bangkok, the Diamond waited in my room for the rain to stop while I packed my bag.

Leaving the Sacred City is always sad, but it is even worse if you have to leave when you have just found a Diamond, because diamonds are rare in nature.



(The next part of this report will appear shortly in the Bangkok section)

Domino
04-25-05, 05:40
Gladiator
As always you are up the top of the class. No doubt your experiences with wild animals in the gladitorial rings have served you well. No doubt, they also help you do forced marches from Soi 2 to Walking Street. But to what end? It is not as if you are getting a patrician woman or fucking a trophy **** like Cleopatra of Egypt. Why face the tropical sun just to survey more cheap temples? Seen one temple, seen 'em all. Why not just prey at the nearest temple?
What is a cheetah (you) doing banging a panther? Also, I note you like your beasts of prey to be tender and no doubt fleet of foot to keep up with you. I also admire the way you sack the non performers. (some Protestant work ethic is needed there I think). But why not have pity on the older, slower hags? They too have to eat, dick.
I note you did not note their names.

Gladiator
04-25-05, 21:20
Gladiator
As always you are up the top of the class. No doubt your experiences with wild animals in the gladitorial rings have served you well. No doubt, they also help you do forced marches from Soi 2 to Walking Street. But to what end? It is not as if you are getting a patrician woman or fucking a trophy **** like Cleopatra of Egypt. Why face the tropical sun just to survey more cheap temples? Seen one temple, seen 'em all. Why not just prey at the nearest temple?

The nearest temples don’t have the right attitude and, worst of all, they are overpriced: a LT with one of the nearest temples would be more expensive than a 10-day sex odyssey in Pattaya (including airfare and all other expenses).

Another option is taking a short flight to Amsterdam, which I’ve done many times, but you end up getting fed up with the 15-min suck & fuck’s, though the good hash and grass still make this one of my favourite playgrounds in Europe.

Eastern Europe is OK for sex, but the sun-god doesn’t turn up over there too often… and remember that I’m looking for the full experience: S, S & S.


What is a cheetah (you) doing banging a panther?

I am an omnivorous cheetah, as you will see later on in my report I even hunted some wild gazelles.


Also, I note you like your beasts of prey to be tender and no doubt fleet of foot to keep up with you.

I find tender preys very tasty, but I am a gentleman, I always took a slave-driven songathew or even a (also slave-driven) moto-taxi whenever I hunted my prey, I wanted them to be full of energy when they got into my bed.


I also admire the way you sack the non performers. (some Protestant work ethic is needed there I think). But why not have pity on the older, slower hags? They too have to eat, dick.

The non-performer committed the most serious crime in the Empire: she refused to have sex. Tell me, dear Domenicus XVI, if a girl doesn’t want to have sex, what can you do with her apart from kicking her out?


I note you did not note their names.

Girls' names are irrelevant, it’s as if each beer you drank had a name, would you remember them? Would you give any importance to them?

Domino
04-26-05, 00:52
Gladiator: Thank you again for the witty clarifications. I actually meant why go to Soi 2 and Soi Diamond when pussy a plenty was available on Soi 8. These ladies can turn on a smile quicker than most of us can turn on a light. Has that any bearing on your choices? Looking forward to your Bkk sojourn.

Philo
04-27-05, 13:40
Girls' names are irrelevant, it’s as if each beer you drank had a name, would you remember them? Would you give any importance to them?

This blockhead reminds me of braindead american fake wrestlers.

The names of all the white trash found in this 3rd world gone tourist rich backyard country counts less then the girls nicknames.

What a stupid one must be to feel like a gladiator in Thailand ...

Naughty
04-27-05, 18:55
He came. He saw. He ate her.

And SHE was Gladiator.

Gladiator
04-27-05, 19:16
This blockhead reminds me of braindead american fake wrestlers.

The names of all the white trash found in this 3rd world gone tourist rich backyard country counts less then the girls nicknames.

What a stupid one must be to feel like a gladiator in Thailand ...

I see you are not mentally equipped to understand my report, in the same way as you were not mentally equipped to understand all the posts on this forum that advised against moving to Thailand to look for love a couple of years ago, when you posted your first sucker-style messages.

Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge, you only gargle.

When you announced you were moving to the Land of Sex in search of love I thought you had reached rock-bottom on the scale of intelligence, but now by joining the tribe of expat losers you have started to dig to fall even lower.

Domino
04-28-05, 00:10
Gladiator

In the good old days, these "people" were fed to the lions and gave us all a good afternoon out at the circus. Let us just put up with their babbling for now.

Maybe I should call you Yoni, which is a Sanskrit word for the vagina that is loosely translated as "Sacred Space" or "Sacred Temple." Its meaning and use is an alternate perspective from the Western view of the female genitals. In Tantra, the Yoni is seen from a perspective of love and respect.
The purpose of the Yoni Massage is to create a space for the woman (the receiver) to relax, and enter a state of high arousal and experience much pleasure from her Yoni. Her partner (the giver) experiences the joy of being of service and witnessing his lady conort and froth. Do you think this massage should be taught in al Thai schools?

Philo
04-28-05, 14:19
... I couldn’t help the temptation to taste her clit: it tasted like heaven...

You know why? Some retired Pattaya white scum paid her 500 B extra for a non condom filling up the day before you DATYed her (may be it was me).

You are a serious punter?

1) Use a condom
2) No DATY
3) If you (like me) like BBBJ, prepare to get any (curable but painful) STD
4) No french kissing

If you do not like this rules, get yourself a girlfriend: It does not take much intelligence to understand that there are good people in every country; thus also in Thailand.

The problem is to find them, and about this I am sorry I cannot help you ...

Chok dee

PS And I am utterly happy that you have found yourself the pet Domino ...

Gladiator
04-28-05, 20:07
Gladiator

In the good old days, these "people" were fed to the lions and gave us all a good afternoon out at the circus. Let us just put up with their babbling for now.

Yes, I think we should add the expat losers to the list of animals to be sacrificed at sunrise, or even better, as you point out, throw them to the beasts during the sunny afternoons in the future Coliseum of Pattaya.


Maybe I should call you Yoni, which is a Sanskrit word for the vagina that is loosely translated as "Sacred Space" or "Sacred Temple." Its meaning and use is an alternate perspective from the Western view of the female genitals. In Tantra, the Yoni is seen from a perspective of love and respect.
The purpose of the Yoni Massage is to create a space for the woman (the receiver) to relax, and enter a state of high arousal and experience much pleasure from her Yoni. Her partner (the giver) experiences the joy of being of service and witnessing his lady conort and froth. Do you think this massage should be taught in al Thai schools?

Wise words.

Definitely Tantric Sexuality should be the principal subject for girls at school, not only in Thailand but all over the world, that would help them get further in life.

I still can’t believe how ignorant most girls (in any country) are, they don’t even know the eight-fold path to Auparishtaka (aka BBBJ).

I’ve tried to initiate them at times, but as you know well these are matters that take time to learn, and they can only be learnt by experience.

Do you think that when you open your Epicurean Garden in the outskirts of Pattaya there will be space in the house to set up a classroom for Tantric teachings? Don’t you think it is our moral obligation to enlighten them, as Buddha did some time ago?

Gladiator
04-28-05, 20:14
1) Use a condom
2) No DATY
3) If you (like me) like BBBJ, prepare to get any (curable but painful) STD
4) No french kissing

If you do not like this rules, get yourself a girlfriend: It does not take much intelligence to understand that there are good people in every country; thus also in Thailand.



Are you now trying to teach us the laws of mongering?

Do you seriously think that a love-seeking sucker like you has the authority to teach others the rules of the game?

Is this a new phase in your delusion of adequacy?

Can you really believe that we are learning something from your posts other than getting some insight into the psychology of an expat loser?

Ken Orvik
04-28-05, 23:47
You are all out of focus!

Can you please try to focus

Thanks

Domino
04-29-05, 02:06
Gladiator

It is refreshing to get your fresh perspective on Pattaya which is as fresh and virginal as a hooker's stale kiss. It is also interesting to see the expats LOS works for and those it doesn't, the expats LOS overwhelms and those it underwhelms.
Pattaya, if used and abused properly, is a playground with slave chariots aplenty to whisk us around to the various sites the harlots and scarlet women are to be found in. Perhaps the mild tropical weather, reminiscent of Rome in its heyday, makes it.
I was looking forward to your Bangkok take.

Nice girls, not one with a defect
Cellophane shrink-wrapped, so correct
Red dogs under illegal legs
She looks so good that he gets down and begs

(CHORUS) She is watching the detectives
"Ooh, he's so cute"
She is watching the detectives
When they shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot
They beat him up until the teardrops start
But he can't be wounded 'cause he's got no heart

Long shot at that jumping sign
Invisible shivers running down my spine
Cut to baby taking off her clothes
Close-up of the sign that says "We never close"
He snatches at you and you match his cigarette
She pulls the eyes out with a face like a magnet
I don't know how much more of this I can take
She's filing her nails while they're dragging the lake

Freeler
04-29-05, 05:32
Domino,

You're rapidly becoming a 'Stranger in the house':).

Ken Orvik,

All this is right in focus. It's just that not everyone uses the same lenses. Some people, however, like to wax-coat their lenses.
The SA page is to help them see the error in their ways.

Regards,
20/20 Vision Freeler

Philo
04-29-05, 19:15
I couldn’t help the temptation to taste her clit: it tasted like heaven.

I am sorry that I have to spoon feed you.

A man that eats the p?ssy of a wh?re must be desperate ...

OK, a mistake can be be forgiven ....

But your posts are like cheap porn - a kind of pornographic pulp fiction - they contain no information nor any advise.

Please understand that the interesting posts on this board are the ones who presents new information - not a tale of who you fucked and when ...


Best regards
Philo

Gladiator
04-30-05, 00:56
Loser,

Apparently you haven’t read my last post below, or you have read it but you haven’t understood it, as usual.

I know you are English-challenged and mentally-challenged too, so I am aware that this is not going to be an easy job.

Again, go through my last post below, read it well, translate it into your mother tongue to make things easier for you, and then repeat those 4 questions once and again each time you feel the impulse to post something.

Repeat them to yourself mentally as if they were a mantra and try to find a convincing answer, an answer that you can post here to show us that you are getting out of the denial stage as a pathetic, love-seeking, expat loser.

RCA Knight
04-30-05, 01:18
You people in BKK tired of getting black bugger in the nose?? I did not quite notice it before my Dutch pal told me and I started checking my buggers in my nose everyday and they are quite black. We never get black buggers while back in Europe unless you work in the coal mines. Thats how dirty the air is in BKK same as down in the coal mines or maybe worse. But Pattaya city is not much better either with millions of sonthels pumping black farts for the international pedestrians.

Anyways I and my pal went down to Pattaya for 3 days to kill some time. First night we hunted in the walking street all over but cannot find anything outstanding and I had to compromise very late at night with an off duty agogo girl working OT in Marin Plaza disco which opens till morning. When the Lucifer and Marine disco close then the leftovers move on to the Marine Plaza disco in the Marine Plaza Hotel first floor. The gal's body and skin tone are quite nice but face very average of Pattaya of Issan extract. Only thing to talk about this gal is that she has very nice shape tits. Gave her 1500 for ST. She actually requested to sleep with me till next day and will give me another shot if I want. She earlier told me she rents apartment with 3 other Isan gals and the room very hot. So I know why now she wants to sleep in my air con room and sacrifice her body one more time to me. But I decided to let her go to get a better rest myself for next day's heavy duty hunting.

Next day. Stayed in the hotel and pool till 5 PM and walked to the desperado's soi Soi 6. There were many gals already sitting outside their shops. My pal saw one that appealed to him so we went in the shop to get a beer. He decided to get a ST and she told him has room upstairs can do short time. Paybar 250 and body fee 700. So they went upstairs for business and I walked around a bit in Soi desperado but did not see anything I like. My pal finished in less than 30 min and we met up again later.

We walked towards north Pattaya. And in a soi near Big C I found 2 girls sitting outside eating dinner. One of them was very cute. But I observed and decided to go talk. The cute one said she is not working but came to Pattaya from Ubon to visit her cousin who is working in a karaoke in Pattaya. She siad she only stays in Pattaya 5 days. I invited her and her cousin to a coffee in Big c. But later the cousin has to go work in karaoke and we stay at the cafe. I said I take her to disco for a drink but she said she is 18 cannot get in. I was even more hornier when I heard she is 18. I directly asked her that I like her very much and I like her to stay with me. She said she never do that but I convince its okay and we can be good friends and I can go to see her in Ubon next time. It was a desperate sweet talk. Then I told her I would buy her a present and asked her what does she want the most now. She thinks a bit and said she wants a mobile fone with color screen. I promised her I will take her to buy tommorrow. She was very happy. So I and her go to Big c to get something to eat and went back to my hotel.

She was shy but I started to finger her and she opened herself up. She said she never have sex with some one almost a stranger. But I had to sweet talk again to convince her I want to be her good friend. The sex was really good because the girl pussy was so tight almost has no much mileage. I pounded her 2 times and she was screaming like a virgin. She was with me until about 2 AM when the cousin called her and I gave her 1000 first for a tip and promised to go buy a mobile for her tommorrow afternoon.

Next day she came to see me again in the afternoon and we went to Big c to get her the present. She was quite reasonable and picked something low price. Was about 3000 for the color mobile. She was very happy and we went to eat some Thai food and I pounded her again and I asked her to blow me and she did. Later that night she ended up stay with me till the next day. And quess what? Her cousin stayed with my pal. He told me he paid her 2000 for the night. To me her cousin was not worth it. But as for me it was quite fun with this young cutie, is like being with a young girl who just learned about the secrets of sex. She was really curious everything about sex and I gave to her about 6 times in 2 days in all types of positions also the mobile fone too. I hope I don't spoiled her and make her go into this trade when she goes back to Ubon.

Wee Zel
04-30-05, 05:49
Gentlemen,

Please, please let us get this forum back on track, whereby it provides useful information to all interested mongers out there.

If you persist in continuing this puerile attack on each others views on life, please do so via private messaging, and leave the board open for genuine contributions.

It was entertaining for the first few messages, now its become tedious, like Mac users vs. Intel, Catholic vs. Protestant. No one wins.

Thank you.

Buggsy61
04-30-05, 10:17
Totally agree with you pal. What a load of bollox and gave up reading most of it after the first paragraph.

RCAKnight,

Good report mate but as for the pollution, its definitely bad in London, although not quite on the BKK scale.

Fun Planet
05-01-05, 02:49
On my trips to Pattaya I have banged everyone from chambermaids to streetgirls to shopgirls. I have often wondered about the tattoo ladies who walk the beach plying their trade. A few times I gave in and got a 400Bht tattoo and once or twice the women were not too bad, nice tits and tight body. Now, I know most are old hags but has anyone tested the waters with one of the decent ones...I don't think they would be too difficult to take to your room for an hour or so...

Domino
05-01-05, 03:37
fun planet: i am surprised you are interested in those women, in that you have scored so many others and you have not tried any of the beach front entrepeneurs. as previously reported (in the sa section where philo the drunk inserted some silly comments afterwards) i do not like tattoos or purveyors of tattoos but i have banged a bunch of other entreprenuerial beach front hags, fortune tellers and masssage therapists in the main. i don't know what your problem is. can you not speak/signal to them what you want? are you shy?
if you merely want to get off on my experiences, well ok: their tits tend to be scraggy, their pussies well used and there is a greater probability of butt fucking them if you are into that. there is a heavily bejeweled (cheap glass stuff) skank who now does fortune telling. she used to do massages and dicksucking too. i actually know a skank who does fortune teling by dick sucking if you are interested. she sucks your dick and tells your fortune as a result of your dick being sucked. it worked in my case ( she told me i was going to meet hags of all ages who would enjoy sucking my dick) but ymmv.

i also agree that philo is a drunken l***r. far better is it to daty than approach these demons in a drunken stupor. gladiator, i see, is winging his way to kenya. nice 4sum.

Fun Planet
05-03-05, 14:27
Domino! I hope you are not being facitious!! No, I am not shy...just wondering if anyone has partaken of what they may have to offer...I really never gave it much thought until I got back home...perhaps I will try next time...

There may be a gem or two there

Passport #2
05-03-05, 23:22
Hi Fun Planet,

I have picked up beach girls for a short-time on many of occasion. While it is true many are well worn, hardcore, and to be avoided, there are gems to be found. I have met some very sweet and sexy girls right off the bus from farm country plying on beach road. One positive is there is no pretence....they know why you are picking them up and the only expectation is for them to service you. Keep security in the forefront when dealing with the beach crowd, but it is an experience you will enjoy.

Take care,

Pass

Paraya
05-04-05, 20:21
Any BJ Bars in Pattaya like Eden club in BKK please? Haven't being to Pattaya before.

Thanks in advance.

World Tracker
05-06-05, 05:35
Hello all old sailors and fellows.

I'm going back to Pattaya next weekend (week 19) and this time I'm going to bring my girlfrend. Yes I know, why bring fish on a fish trip.. Anyway, Pattaya is over all the most fun place with a nice sandy beach close to BKK for a few days. (other suggestions?) But Yes it is a bit stupid, and I hope not my next buisness trip to Thailand is vwth a bannded Pattaya stamp in my passport.

Anyway, my question is;

Does anyone remember the name of a hotel located just before walking street named eros something,, It is a hotel where you can have sex together with others. It is well equipted with stuff as well.

Br

WT

Capt JB
05-06-05, 07:30
there is a [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in pattaya as well as bangkok

The Traveler
05-06-05, 19:28
Anyway, my question is;

Does anyone remember the name of a hotel located just before walking street named eros something,, It is a hotel where you can have sex together with others. It is well equipted with stuff as well.

World Tracker,

the only well equipped - I guess you talk about handcuffs, dildos and the like - hotel I know close to walking is the Penthouse. Their rooms are stuffed with lots of crap for which you will be charged (overpriced) if you use it. The Penthouse is at Soi Pattayaland, just a 2 min walk along beach road from Walking. But the rooms are dirty, the pool is a swamp and the management doesn't care at all. My advice, avoid it.

BTW, you can have sex with others in any hotel. Having sex with yourself is boring :). Just got to find girls/guys/katoeys/couples which are up for it.

Dinghy
05-06-05, 22:01
BJ bars - and most of the bars on Soi 6 also

Dinghy
05-06-05, 22:03
Tracker - ??banned Pattaya stamp??

??what's that?? You think you will get a red "M" for "monger" in your passport????

Bungy Jim
05-07-05, 11:08
Just come back from 6 days Pattaya and like to mention the disco of Lucifer at Walking Street. You first pass the bar with (good) live music in the front and consequently you arrive in a big disco with also a great band playing. Music till 02.00 hrs and everyone is dancing.

The nice thing about this disco is the mix of girls: full pro's, free-lancers and also a substantial number of nice young Thai girls having a holiday in Pattaya. First challenge is to find out with what girl you are dealing with before you go dancing. Real challenge and nicest experience of course to seduce the holiday girl ! Can be done because they are also there to have fun and good sex is part of this for many of them. Of course you will also pay in the end: drinks, a meal, a present etc.

Have fun !

Bungy Jim
05-07-05, 11:19
Another tip for after the music dies in most places after 02.00 hrs is Jenny Bar in Walking Street (next to the kick boxing arena). A very nice mix of Lady Boys and girls of go/go's and beer bars with stream in after 02.00 to dance and to find a fellow, while not being successful before in the go go or beer bar (or just want to have a second or third round). The combination with at least 30 lady boys makes it a bizarre place. They pay evidently big tips to the police, because the music continues loudly till 04.00 hrs or later.

Dance, drink and pick up your favourite girl (lady boy or not). But take care that she is not too drunk feeling free from work. Happened to me that she fell in sleep directly when she felt the bed ! OK she made it good the next morning, but still ....

If Jenny bar is too bizarre for you or the music too loud you can go to the opposite in the street where the blues club is. Al lot of girls flock together after 02.00 to make there final attemp for the night. Music from a live band, also there they will pay tips to the police.

Samu Ray
05-07-05, 11:30
Today is May 7, 2005. I am in Chiang mai. A while back someone needed information on the "day time *****houses" on Nimmanhaemin Road. Just visited the place. One is closed, two are open from 10:00am to 4:00pm.

They were originally three houses. The one on the right is closed. The one in the middle has around 10 young *****s, two or three with good body! Bring your own comdom or you will be charged 40 bt. I paid 300 bt to screw, 90 bt for a beer. Around $ 10 all! Some of the night *****houses where I took nice girls to my hotel in the past, have been closed! There are two places close to "Chiang Mai" hotel, I haven't visited them.They look expensive I will report on them later. I hope this helps anyone!

Bungy Jim
05-07-05, 11:34
My last tip of this trip to Pattaya: have fun with two for three.

Ok you can pick up two girls from a go go or beer bar take them to the hotel and fuck two girls. Sexy experience certainly if you have not done this before. But after a few times you will feel that it is far less intimate then to have one girl which you know a little better, because you had dinner together, dance drink, party and then fuck.

So you decide to pick the two girl early and take them both to party. This way you will find out that the girls will mostly talk to eachother and again you will have your very sexy but less intimate experience in the hotel.

I found a third way to do this. Early in the evening you find one nice girl in a go go and tell her what your phantasy and plan for the evening is before you pay bar fine. Your phantasy is to fuck two girls. You plan is first to have a nice evening with her:dinner, drink, dance, party. At the end of the evening she should pick a girl she likes to take with the two of you to the hotel. Of course you asked her already if she also likes girls. If she agrees with the phantasy/plan you take her out. So you can have your intimate evening (GFE) with her, while chatting which girls are sexy enough to take to the hotel. Of course you make sure that her pick is approved by you. In bed you will feel that it is more a feeling of a couple to take a third girl for sex then just fucking two girls. Of course if this is only what you like then this tip is not for you, but for all the others: try it and enjoy. But make very sure what you want to the first girl !!

Capt JB
05-07-05, 16:42
I was in Pattaya at the end of March and each night saw the same group of Russian girls on Walking Street. These girls did not measure up to the looks of the Thai girls available so I did not bother any contact with them. A friend who had visited Russia tells me that these gals are pretty much at the bottom of the pecking order for Russian gals. That the girls in Russia are far better looking than those who come to Pattaya.

World Tracker
05-08-05, 10:16
Hello All Fellows

I going back to Pattaya next week, I simply love that place.

My problem is that I can not remember the name of a hotel I saw the last time I was there.

My guess is that it is located in Soi 2. The name are somting, Eros. You might have sex among with others in this well equiped place. Please if anybody know post the name.

Thanks

The Traveler
05-08-05, 20:04
World Tracker,

as far as I know there is no hotel named Eros at soi 2 and around.

At soi 2 you will find the Sabai Inn and Sabai Lodge, at soi 3 the Sunshine Vista, A-One and the so called Belgium embassy. There is another one at soi 3 but I don't recall the name. Maybe Juice can be of help, he once stayed there.
But none of these are known for having sex with others and of course it's at North Pattaya and not close to Walking as you said in your first post.

Did you read my first post regarding that matter ?

Irjle
05-12-05, 23:20
Report following from Bangkok section.

Pattaya : after Bangkok I was expecting very little from Pattaya. Boy was I wrong!!! Much wider choice, everything was better, prices, girls, food, hotels. Yes many Australian and Russian tourists are somehow lowering the quality of services (like food quality and staff friendliness) but the average feeling is still ok.

Gogo: Super Baby and Super Girl in Soi Diamond are the best for me. Super Baby had every night at least 3 or 4 girls worth a short time or even long time commitment. Warning: in these two bars girls tend to be smaller than average, they really try to look like young students (but they are mostly 24 or 25 years old). So if you are looking for tall Isaan beauties with long hair go elsewhere. I had no time to check the new upstairs bars in Soi Diamond, somebody told me they are great, go check yourself!

The usual big number of beer bars , busy until 2 a.m., with many many MANY idle ladies of all ages and shapes. Plenty of SW on the beach road, junkies or old or both. They say police is trying to clean up the city: well they are losing 48-0. Yes there are families around now, many more than in the past: the walking area is wider, cleaner and safer. But business is thriving anyway. And freelancers are also available in daytime, mainly in the two big department stores. I catched a beautiful half-Chinese-half-Thai in a shop at noon. A 2000 Baht nice bag as a gift and here we go home on her motorbike for a long, hot afternoon.

In Mike's dep.store some of the saleswomen are real beauties, but I did not test their attitude.

MP : Sabailand is still great value for money, and always has a couple of stunners, but not more, so you need to be lucky.

Next stop Ho Chi Minh City

Berty Boy
05-13-05, 11:48
This was my 3rd trip to LOS and my first stay in Pattaya. Actually it feels like this was first as I managed to crack some nuts I 'd failed to get to on my previous trips.to start I arrived at Don muang airport at 06.45am and got to the Mejestic Suite at just after 8am. Was told it was too early to check-in so left my bags and went out in search of some breakfast. I was surpised to find that none of the normal place such as MacDonalds were open at that time so after a fruitless trip on the BTS( i decided to use the time to familiarize myself withthe system as I would be doing a lot of sneaking around) I return to the hotel and get checked in at 10.30am. I SSS and sort out what the stuff I intend to take with me to Pattaya the following day.To quickly sumerize my plans for this trip, I,d told my TG that I would be arriving on April the 25th but booked my ticket to LOS for the 19th with the intention of visiting Eden Club for the first time and spending 5 days in Pattaya. I promised myself that I would not go to Nana Plaza and stick to Patpong and Soi Cowboy only. Went to Eden Club at 12.30pm and itwas fantastic,the highlight of the trip and I am sorry I did not get the time for another session.

After Eden I floated around Sukhumvit and Patpong shopping for a few hours
and got back to Majestic at around 5.30pm. I had tried to sme alcohol in Patpong but was told it was to early and went to the 7/11 on the corner of Soi 4. This was my first mistake.Shower and change and head out to Soi Cowboy and Dollhouse which I'd read so much about on the forum. Waste of time one drink and out. A major part of this trip was to try as many different body types as I could so when I left Dollhouse I went across the road to Suzy Wong and nailed one of the waitresses. She was a bit fat and I only intended to go short time but she was great fun and although I said I would not spend the night with anyone I made my second mistake and broke the promise I'd made about not going to Nana. We ended up at Nana Disco. In the morning she wanted to come with me to Pattaya but I said no and we parted at Thong Lo station.All went well and I bought my bus ticket to Pattaya with a smile on my face and the feeling that all had gone well upto this point. How wrong I was and those promises I'd broken were about to come back and bite me in the ass big time.Day 2 in Pattaya to follow.

Buzz00
05-13-05, 16:44
I hope the photos upload anyway as follows :

1+2. This chick I kept for 4 days - her tip started at 1200.- baht and by the time I kicked her out it was 500.- I found her thunder thighs very sexy.

3. Is anyone suprised why things are blowing up in Thailand. ?!

4+5. these 2 wild people would have had a go right there if the bar owner had not intervened.

Buzz00
05-13-05, 17:30
1+2. Lady that stayed with me for 4 days starting at 1200 baht tip and ending with 500.- before I asked her to leave - I loved her thunder thighs.

2. Is anyone suprised that things are blowing up in Thailand.

3+4. At a bar near Big-C these 2 guys would have done it right there had the
the farang owner not asked them to cool down.

Dazzla
05-13-05, 23:56
[QUOTE=Irjle]Report following from Bangkok section.

Yes many Australian and Russian tourists are somehow lowering the quality of services (like food quality and staff friendliness) but the average feeling is still ok.

Irjle, thanks for your post. I would like to know what you have based this comment on. How does an Australian tourist affect the quality of food?

Irjle
05-14-05, 10:19
Hi Dazzla
first I have to say that Australian meat (found in Thailand and Vietnam) is great quality, really outstanding (by the way there is a steak house in Soi Diana Inn, 20 meters from Second Road on your right side: clean, has reasonable prices, great meat and friendly staff!!).
I was only talking about the average restaurant (western style): where French, Italian and Spanish tourists (as for example in their own Countries) are a majority, restaurants tend to offer better food. Where Germans, Americans, Russians and Australians are a majority, the opposite becomes true (as an example in Rimini, Italy, a large summer resort where almost 50% of tourists are German or Scandinavian, food is WAY below Italian average). Well this is just my personal opinion of course, I may be biased because living in Italy made me so picky about food...
About the level of services: a couple of times in Pattaya waiters or receptionists thought I was Russian (I am tall and blonde) and were almost rude to me. When they knew I am Italian their attitude changed. They later explained that many Russians (not all OF COURSE) are very unpolite with service people. That's all. This is their feeling, I just reported it because rudeness from Thai people was totally absent ten years ago but is now starting to come out, and I noticed it.
Needless to say that there are also Russian gentlemen and Italian junk-food addicts. I was just spotting an average trend.
Ciao

Joe Tokyo
05-14-05, 16:13
[QUOTE=Irjle]Report following from Bangkok section.

Yes many Australian and Russian tourists are somehow lowering the quality of services (like food quality and staff friendliness) but the average feeling is still ok.

Irjle, thanks for your post. I would like to know what you have based this comment on. How does an Australian tourist affect the quality of food?Everyone knows Aussies have no class. Just as everyone knows Italians are full of it.

Joe Tokyo
05-16-05, 09:12
I was in the Polo club in March when I overheard a Japanese customer ask one of the bar staff about barfining one of the showgirls.

The answer was one million. The customer obviously thought he was joking and so he asked again. Same answer, one million.

While the girl in question does have a very very nice arse, there are a couple of even nicer arses around Pattaya, and it's obviously not worth a million baht.

I can't remember her number, but on both nights I went, she did the routine with ice cubes where she invites audience members to rub ice on her nipples (for tips) before she ends by mixing a cocktail.

Anyone know what the deal is here? Are the top showgirls at Polo effectively off-limits?

Irjle
05-16-05, 17:41
Everyone knows Aussies have no class. Just as everyone knows Italians are full of it.Full of it, Joe Tokyo? No pun intended? Gee, I hope so. And stay away from the million bath girls!

Joe Tokyo
05-18-05, 15:19
Full of it, Joe Tokyo? No pun intended? Gee, I hope so. And stay away from the million bath girls!Class. I was trying to say that Italians are full of class.

All those old ruins and stuff, you guys must have class coming out of your ears.

Irjle
05-19-05, 16:32
Joe T.,

I keep thinking about the milllion baht lady you mentioned. Having worked in a japanese company for 2 years and having travelled extensively in Asia, I have a theory:Chinese, Thai, Japanese people find very difficult to say "no". Therefore in your case they did not like the idea of saying that the girl could NOT be bar-fined, and they raised the price just a bit.

Do you agree? I know it is not a very important issue, I am just curious of how people's mind work.

Have fun

Joe Tokyo
05-20-05, 10:22
Joe T.,

I keep thinking about the milllion baht lady you mentioned. Having worked in a japanese company for 2 years and having travelled extensively in Asia, I have a theory:Chinese, Thai, Japanese people find very difficult to say "no". Therefore in your case they did not like the idea of saying that the girl could NOT be bar-fined, and they raised the price just a bit.

Do you agree? I know it is not a very important issue, I am just curious of how people's mind work.

Have funYou may well be right, although I was under the impression that the Japanese were unique in Asia for having difficulty in saying "no". It may not be your experience, but I personally hear plenty of "mai chai's" from Thais.

By the way Irjle, despite the tag, I'm not Japanese.

Given that the Polo Club concept is based entirely on the shows, you can understand why a 500 baht barfine just doesn't cover the loss of a top showgirl for a couple of hours. But surely everyone's got their price, and a million just seems well over the top.

More generally, I was disappointed with Pattaya in March. There were plenty of tourist wondering around yet most of the gogo bars seemed half empty. The only two bars I found with any buzz were Peppermint and Diamond.

On the disco front, Marine and Tony's were deserted, and it felt like half of Pattaya had squeezed themselves into Lucifers. But unfortunately not the pretty half.

Berty Boy
05-21-05, 18:48
Day 1

S I'm on the bus to Pattaya now . The trip is pleasent and uneventful.On calls me a few times but after the first call I don't answer.We arrive at the bus station around 2.30pm and transfer to the baht bus.20mins later I'm at my hotel and checked-in.Up to the 4th floor and into the room, SSS again and I try to relax a little before hitting the streets.Sort out a safe with reception and go out to exchange some money. I have abit of a wait as some fellows infront all want to exchange $1000 each.15mins later I start walking in the direction I think Walking Street is.

I have a map but forgot to ask the hotel to tell me where they where so I'd have a reference point. I get hopelessly lost if that's possible and 2 hours later I'm hungry so I go down the nearest Soi in search of food. I stop at a bar and ask the girls outside if the serve food and she points to a bar directly across the street from them . So I go over and past the girls outsde and order a Singha and some Thai food. There is only one other fellow in the bar so while I'm waiting for my food I ask him to tell me where we were. on the map . He tells me this is Soi Post Office and shows me on map. That rings a bell in head as I know I have a note about this soi in my PDA, but I've left that back at the hotel.The food comes and I eat and take in my surroundings. I notice the girls and in particular a tall skinny girl. I finish eating and pay my bill and as I'm leaving I see the skinny girl is still looking and smiling.I make my way back to my hotel and shwer and change and get ready to hit the streets again.

I go out and find my way to Classroom. This was a place I had also made a note to visit based on what I saw on there website. Again it promised much and delivered nothing just like Dollhouse in Bangkok. One drink and out I go a to Crystal's a small go go afew doors down. This was a lot better and after 10mins I'm surrouded by girls. I had a pretty 21 yearold on my lap but for some reason I decided to choose an older(more experienced I thought) girl named Ann. I tell her I will Bf her but I didn't want to spend the night in one place and I didn't want to take her with me while I bar hopped so I paid her Bf and told her I'd be back at 1am for her.Left and found Walking Street and went straight to What's Up to see if the black/Thai girl I saw last November was still there. she was on holiday but there was another I saw on my way in.

The other girls practically threw this girl at me and when she came over I bought her a drink.We talk a bit and cuddle a bit and soon we are DFking> I'm introduced to what she called her sister but is actually her cousin and soon she is being cuddled and fondled. I suggest a threesme but there having none of it so after some time i remember my promise to Ann I tell this girl(cannot remember her name) I will be back for her tomorrow. I leave and get lost again trying to find my way back to Crystal's. I get there 15mins late but Ann is still there and we leave.

It's at this point my problems start. firstly she has a motorbike and is a bit worried I'm to big for the pillion so suggests a motorbike taxi for me and she will follow. I'd always said I would never get on one of those things but never say never off we go. We get to the hotel and arrange with the guard for Ann to leave her bike in the hotel car park.At reception we encounter problem number 2. Ann has no ID reception is adamant no ID no entry. I ask the guy on the desk watch can I do to make this happen and he replies "go find another girl". It's close to 2am and I 'm not going back out so we agree to let her sign in on my reservation for the night and we go up to the room.

We both shower and I'm ready to down to some action.Ann wants to talk about of things her dead parents. I not a bastard so I listen but there came a point when I had to turn the conversation around to sex.She suggest a massage and Lay on my stomach and she gives me what can only be described as mediocre rubdown.We finally get down to the reason we were both there and that was mediocre as well. In the moring things were a little better but not much.I know I should of gotten rid of her then but I need to develop a hard exterior so we end up have lunch at Big C before coming back to problem 3. The day guard won't let Ann take her bike so we have to negoiate again and after 10mins she on her way I tell her she may see me tonight but we both knew that wasn't going to happen. total cost for night 4000bt including lunch.Not the great first day i'd imagined and I told myself to make sure day 2 went more to plan.

Berty Boy
05-21-05, 18:59
I was in Polo in April(look out for report) and watch the ice cbe show.

Some very nice girls but none worth more than 1000bt barfine.

Musketeer
05-21-05, 19:17
checked in at my hotel at 2 pm. first stop bj bar [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). found it with some difficulty near soi diana. i should have taken a copy print with me of their exact location from their excellent www.lolitaspattaya.com pages. it was 4 pm, about 10 girls sitting and chatting outside. i went in and one of the girls followed me. i ordered a coke from her thinking she is a waitress. to my surprise she said that she is the one to serve me if i want a 600,- baht blowjob or some other service. eh, she was not good-looking, her face was not pretty, she was not young. i knew that she could not make me come, no way. i do not like to hurt people but now i had to: i said that i need to choose the girl myself. she went quiet and did not seem to comprehend what i just told her. after a while she knew i was serious and went to talk to the girls sitting outside. one of them joined me and instantly i knew that now they will get my money: she was young and petite with a pretty face. we talked a bit and then went upstairs.

this was my first bj bar experience. a small room with something like a modified barbers chair, giving good access to a blokes genital area. the girl took off my pants and washed my balls and penis thoroughly with a hot towel. the girl was natural, polite and smiling through the whole procedure. no condom was put on, does not fit in with this sex business idea of course. she did a good job, making it faster and slower according to my orders. it took about 20 minutes till i was finished. what happened with the sperm ? i think she took it in her mouth and then spitted it in the towel. i was too exhausted at that time to notice how that part went. we went downstairs, i paid the bill, gave the girl a 100,- tip and left the place with a smile on my face. it read hostess nay in the girls badge i think ? a good choice and a good start for a pattaya holiday.

i had a 200,- baht nice foot massage on 2nd road, went to royal garden plaza to have a meal, then back to the hotel for a short nap. then it was time to head to soi yodsiak i.e. soi 6. i randomly chose a bar called superstar. coming from 2nd road on the right hand side not far from the other side i.e. beach road. well, randomly, in fact several slim not too bad looking girls sat outside and waived this handsome man, eh, to come inside. i grabbed a nice looking girl by the hand and asked her to join me for a drink inside. sipping the drinks i checked from her that the pricing is the same as it was in september 2004 on this soi: 300,- baht barfine and some 500,- to the girl ? they confirmed that this is still ok and upstairs we went. they have a nice room for this kind of st things. the cialis pill that i had taken before going to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) earlier in the day proved its reliability: no difficulty to get and keep an erection this time either. with my almost fifty years cialis or such stuff is a must i need to add. afterwards i gave the girl a 200,- tip and went my way. where did i go ? to an internet cafe to check my emails, to read the latest news and write this report while it all is still fresh in my mind. thanks for all you wsg members who have contributed in this pattaya thread: you have been of great help to me with your hints and reports.

Arris Sung
05-21-05, 19:51
[QUOTE=IrjleI have a theory:Chinese, Thai, Japanese people find very difficult to say "no". Therefore in your case they did not like the idea of saying that the girl could NOT be bar-fined, and they raised the price just a bit.[/QUOTE]It's more of a matter that many of these people come from places where enough money will buy the answer you want.

Which is pretty much the way things DO work in Thailand.

Devil Doc
05-22-05, 03:23
Hello All Fellows,

I going back to Pattaya next week. It is my the first time there. I have use the forum to plan my previous trips to BKK, AC, MNL and other places. It gives me ideas of were to go next.

I already have booked a room at the Roof Garden Inn. Yes, I read the Forum.

I have 3 Questions.

1. Any recommendations (ie, GOGO, BB, etc) to visit will in Pattaya?

2. I have read the ST is 500 and LT is 1000, BF is 250 to 500. Is this correct?

3. Is anyone going to be in Pattaya?

I arrive in Pattaya Saturday morning May 28th. I will be there till monday and will be returning to BKK. I am always interested in having a beer with other mongers. If they are interested.

Thank you for any and all help.

The Traveler
05-22-05, 08:34
Devil Doc,

1. Diamond Gogo, Superbaby and Living Doll Showcase (all in Walking / Soi Diamond) use to have cute girls but diamonds can be found everywhere. Take your time, talent comes and goes so quick that recommendations are outdated very fast.

2. Barfines at bars vary between 200-250, at Gogos 500-600.
The prices you have quoted are correct for the bar scene, a Gogo girl usually expects about 1000 ST and 1500-2000 LT. It's rainy/off season now so many might go for less. Just take it as a guideline.

Happy hunting

Horatio
05-22-05, 12:29
Devil doc
As far as recommended bars go, I liked The Beach Club just off walking street. The girls dance on the tables with their shorts unsnapped showing themselves. Also many of the girls there are friendly and fun to sit and talk to, not much pressure to buy them drinks or anything.

I was in Pattaya the end of 04 and the beggining of 05, and Beach Club was my regular haunt.

Good luck and regards
Horatio

Toy Boy
05-22-05, 15:43
Today the 22nd May is Visakha Bucha day, the holiest day in the Buddhist calendar. It commemorates the birth, enlightenment and death of Lord Buddha.

Just thought I would explain that to anyone wondering why Pattaya is shut down tonight (again!).

Seriously, it is getting worse here. Just a few months ago you could still find bars in Walking Street where you could drink beer out of a glass inside a condom on a holiday night. The only exception was election night, when everything really was shut down. Now the Nazi Thai police, under the direction of Fuhrer Thaksin, are stopping even this harmless practice.

OK, in the side streets you could still find places open but with the shutters halfway down that would sell you a beer, but why drink in a dive? I prefer to go home to my apartment and read a book in comfort.

The government’s morality crusade is evidently getting stronger since it won a landslide at the election. There is still plenty of nudity and staged sex in the GoGo Bars in Pattaya, unlike Bangkok. My betting is that this will be the next target for the Pattaya Gestapo.

Start planning on taking holidays elsewhere is my advice, Thailand is going down the tubes. I am not sure the sex tourist scene as we know it will survive this next four years of Thaksinocracy.

Horatio
05-22-05, 18:33
Start planning on taking holidays elsewhere is my advice, Thailand is going down the tubes. I am not sure the sex tourist scene as we know it will survive this next four years of Thaksinocracy.

Do others share this outlook for Thailand or is this unduly pessimistic? I just went there for the 1st time and would hate to see it change drastically.

Regards Horatio

Joe Tokyo
05-23-05, 08:48
The government’s morality crusade is evidently getting stronger since it won a landslide at the election. There is still plenty of nudity and staged sex in the GoGo Bars in Pattaya, unlike Bangkok. My betting is that this will be the next target for the Pattaya Gestapo.From what I saw in March, the opposite is true. Compared to last year, Pattaya is slowly getting back to how it used to be, later hours and more flesh on show.

I get the sense that the government would like to move the farang nightlife industry out of Bangkok into places like Pattaya and Phuket.

Closing down the Pattaya bars would decimate the city.

Freeler
05-23-05, 15:39
Horatio,

Yes, it is 'unduly pessimistic'. It has always been like that: Closed on Buddhist holidays and Royal birthdays, weddings, funerals.
Back in 1996, after the Princess Mom died, bars were closed for five days straight for the funeral.
Honestly, who gives a flying fuck if bars are closed for a day or so? Don't they have anything else to do but drink and make asses of themselves?
FYI: BeachRoad is always open:)!

Shagger Dude
05-26-05, 07:32
I'm coming to Pattaya on the 5th of June and vill stay for 3 weeks. The problem is my girlfreind is with me, so I'm wondering are there any girls to have at the golf courses, or body massages in that area?

Because I'm going to be playing a golf a lot and that would be perfect exscuse for me to monger their if possible, and where can I find black girls in Pattaya. And thank you guys for all the great posts here.

PS. Pardon my spelling, English is not my native language.


From what I saw in March, the opposite is true. Compared to last year, Pattaya is slowly getting back to how it used to be, later hours and more flesh on show.

I get the sense that the government would like to move the farang nightlife industry out of Bangkok into places like Pattaya and Phuket.

Closing down the Pattaya bars would decimate the city.

Alex336
05-27-05, 04:56
Looks like a quiet season in Pattaya this year. Just coming back from a one day trip and still seeing the nearly abandoned streets of the lower sois, the lame calls of the girls, their burned out hopes finding a customer for that night.

Definitely more life in Walking Street. Go-Go-Bars like Peppermint still going strong but even there the the girls complained about the lack of farangs. It was my first trip to Pattaya and it left me with an ambiguous feeling. Of course the prices are much lower here than in Bangkok, but also the quality I would rate lower. On the way back to the hotel I was approached by a rundown girl introducing herself with the words "I want to suck yout cock" pointing towards some bushes at a darker corner of a parking lot. Glad going back to Sukhumvit tonight.

Nandu
05-27-05, 09:15
I am going to be in Pattaya for two night by the end of this month. Which is the best MP and Go-Go?. Rates are lower than BKK? I was also told Bars are good places to take out the girls. Which one is a good one?

Thank you for your report service.

Bakabon
05-27-05, 18:02
[QUOTE=Alex336]Looks like a quiet season in Pattaya this year. Just coming back from a one day trip and still seeing the nearly abandoned streets of the lower sois, the lame calls of the girls, their burned out hopes finding a customer for that night.

- Yes. But wait a week or two when the US military (Mostly Marines) rolls into Utapao Air Base and Sattahip 30 minutes out of town for 5 weeks of exercise Cobra Gold. The streets will be filled with Americans with short hair and baht loaded wallets.

Thai government has to fill the rainy season with something to make money.

Baka

The Traveler
05-27-05, 22:27
I'm coming to Pattaya on the 5th of June and vill stay for 3 weeks. The problem is my girlfreind is with me, so I'm wondering are there any girls to have at the golf courses, or body massages in that area?

Because I'm going to be playing a golf a lot and that would be perfect exscuse for me to monger their if possible, and where can I find black girls in Pattaya. And thank you guys for all the great posts here.

Shagger Dude,

I don't know if the girl caddies are available, but I guess some are. I know a girl that used to work at Phoenix Golf Club but is now working in a bar at soi 7.

There is also a place called "Butterfly Bar" not far from the Siam Country Club. Not many girls and not very cute - at least for me. But have a drink and a look, maybe a diamond can be found, who knows.

Regarding MPs, they are all in Pattaya and Naklua, not close to the golf courses.

http://www.bahtbus.com/massage/

You could also visit Happy World in Bang Saen or Manola and other MPs in Rayong.

The Traveler
05-27-05, 22:51
I am going to be in Pattaya for two night by the end of this month. Which is the best MP and Go-Go?. Rates are lower than BKK? I was also told Bars are good places to take out the girls. Which one is a good one?

Thank you for your report service.
Nandu,

Sabai Room, Sabai Land and Sabai Dee are all the same. Same owner and the girls rotate. Anyway, all close together (just across the street), so if you don't find anything acceptable in one of these just move on to the next one.

My infos on VIP Massage in the Diamond Hotel are absolutely outdated. Have been there almost 20yrs ago, but at that time the rooms were worn down.

Also have been to another MP (forgot name) at Naklua Road (right hand side facing Naklua) not far from the traffic circle. Worth a try but nothing special.

Even though I am not a soapie fan I would prefer the Sabai Group. Most girls to choose from.

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Regarding bars, diamonds can be found everywhere.
Never saw any cutie at Soi 2, but the elevated bars at Soi 3 have some. Soi 7 and Soi 8 have the best selection and lots of freelancers that can be found at Walking after midnight can be picked there earlier in the evening. The other bar areas might be worth a visit - had a few cute ones from Soi Post Office and other places - but usually they should only be part of a "walk-through".

http://www.pattaya-at-night.com/bar.htm
http://www.pattayagogoguide.com/beerbar.html

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In my opinion the best Gogos are Diamond Gogo, Superbaby, Happy Gogo, Peppermint and Living Dolls Showcase, all in the Walking area. But again, cute girls can be found everywhere. I usually move from one gogo to the next one, have a short look and only take a seat if I see anything that interests me.

http://www.pattaya-at-night.com/gogo.htm
http://www.pattayagogoguide.com/gogolist.html

Joe Tokyo
05-28-05, 12:41
It was my first trip to Pattaya and it left me with an ambiguous feeling. Of course the prices are much lower here than in Bangkok, but also the quality I would rate lower. On the way back to the hotel I was approached by a rundown girl introducing herself with the words "I want to suck your cock" pointing towards some bushes at a darker corner of a parking lot. Glad going back to Sukhumvit tonight.For me, this sums up Pattaya perfectly. Cheap and nasty. If you're looking for asome quality, then stick to Bangkok.

LittleBigMan
05-28-05, 23:39
Alex336,

Don't let one bad experience sour you. This can also happen in BKk, walk past NEP, down Soi 4, late at night and that might happen again!
There is more than what you saw in Pattaya in the short time you spent there but it looks like you might have already close yourself to ever returning. I once thought that about BKK, but gave it another try and since have come to enjoy it more! but still I personally perfer Pattaya over BKK.

LBM

Domino
05-29-05, 06:39
Where exactly is this car lot and how much was she asking?:D
I get the point you are making but the sex trade tends to be sordid world wide and it is not nice to demean a poor lady reduced to offering blow jobs in the bushes of a Pattaya car lot. Maybe whe she was younger, she had loftier ambitions. like giving blow jobs in a blow job bar, starring in a bestiality movie or selling blow jobs from Bangkok's Nana parking lot. Perhaps, after a day spent offering blow jobs nobody wants, she goes to the temple to pray - and cry :( - to Buddha for a break, and for a few very drunk customers who will pay the little she wants for the lot she gives. Gentlemen, be kind. Let's make the world a nice place:)

Gladiator
05-29-05, 13:45
It is sad when hookers get to that stage where they can’t even provide a miserable BJ in Pattaya.

It is sad but it’s not the end of the world: they can always go to BKK, to the world famous Nana parking lot and the Sukhumvit strip. Not only will they get plenty of curstomers there but they will also have the opportunity to charge premium rates for their services.

Domino
05-29-05, 15:46
Gladiator raises an important point. Which venue is better for sw action? Gladiator and Freeler say Pattaya. Is there a difference of opinion? I feel Pattaya is better for fucking, Bkk for shopping.

Phuquer
05-29-05, 16:43
Domino, I kind of agree with you to a point. I think Pattaya is better for sex than Bangkok because it is a more laid back atmosphere (people on holiday) and the area is much smaller. I have had great experiences in both places (BKK and Pattaya), but Bangkok required much greater effort to find a satisfying experience. In Pattaya, I could find whatever I want (whether it be beach road skanks, overpriced gogo girls, regular girls on vacation, or whatever) within minutes of stepping out of my hotel room. And that is anytime, day or night. In Bangkok, I can spend an entire day searching and still not find the right one. She is probably around, but the action in Bangkok is spread around a much greater distance than in Pattaya. The shopping (non sexual) is infinitely better in Bangkok, though.

Berty Boy
06-03-05, 13:49
Atfer I said goodye to Ann I headed north up 2nd Road in search of Soi 6 but the heat proved to much for me and I only manage to walk as far as Soi 11. So I hop on a baht bus aand get off at the beach with the intention of relaxing in the sun instead of walking in it. Met a brother from U. S and spent a while talking and comparing notes. Left him around 3pm and went looking for some stray pussy along Beach road but there is not much around that takes my fancy only some girls trying to get me to buy Time share. I end up on Soi Pattayaland and gointo a bar offering draught beer for 45bt. Sit down and order and flirt with the girls on stage. Another girl comes over to refreash my drink and we start talking. She gets around to asking me if I want to go upstairs and I ask if I can take some pictures and she agrees. 1400bt all in. Drink in hand she takes me upstairs to a very large but dark room and we shower and get down to bussines. She has nice large tits and is not fat but a bit more fleshy than your usual TG. She had great technique and fabulous BBBJ and loved 69. An hour later she let me take some pictures which I will post later. Tip her and left and somehow found myself back at the bar I'd eaten at the day before. The skinny girl is there and comes over to drink with me. She want me to go upstairs but I can't so soon after the last session. I tell her I will see her tomorrow and head back to my hotel to get ready for the evening hunt. Showered and changed I'm back on the street and making my way back to What's Up. Black/Thai girl is there and soon we pick up where we lelft off the night before. After a couple of hours kissing and joking around she gets up to get some drinks and her cousin come over and tell me she(black/Thaigirl)cannot do sex tonight because she has just started her period. I confirm this when black/Thaigirl returns and I clerly show my disappointment. I realise she will not be off her period iby the time I leave but we are having so much fun I bf her and tell her to take the night off. I also tip her about 500bt and tell her I will see her in October. We kiss goodbye and I head out to see if I can pick something upon ther way back to my hotel.

As I passing a bar near the end of Walking Street my phone rings and it's TG in BKK. I ignore the call but someone shouts out "hey you sexy man, where you go". So I go over and we talk a little and she says wants to go with me. I ask her what she will do for me and she just raised her eyebrow and looked at me. I find this very sexy so I make sure she has ID and off we go. I had only intended to have one night with this girl(lets call her T)She is only 20yrs and has a child but was such a laugh to be wth. She even told me to shut up and stop talking while we were having sex. The only down point was when we went to a Karaoke bar with her friend (who let me take sexy photos of her so she could send them to her boyfriend in Canada) and I got stung for 4000bt bill. I even stayed in Pattaya an extra day to be with her but I had to return to BKK and the showdown with TG. T took me to the bus station and thinking that things would not go well with TG, I told T I would be back in three days. I'm on the bus feeling pretty smug and thinking I've got away with 6 days in Pattaya and not returning TG calls. I was in for a rude awakening.

Horatio
06-04-05, 04:32
Bertie Boy
I am enjoying your posts and looking forward to reading more.
Regards Horatio

Adjarn
06-05-05, 08:52
Hey guys,

Can anyone tell us if/when the soldiers will be coming to Pattaya? Low season is usually happy hunting, but not when the fleet is in town. I want to avoid them if I can. Thanks

Adjarn

Dinghy
06-05-05, 23:09
Adjarn = Cobra Gold is usually in the "now" timeframe - late May to early June - might be a lttle later this year (somebody might have exact dates). Didn't seem to be a big problem last year (but I was there in the last week of it)

Freeler
06-06-05, 04:26
Adjarn,

Every year it's the same Cobra Gold question from someone. And always posters say that it isn't a problem. Because it isn't. Why do people always want to find out about things that could go wrong or might spoil a tip?
You stand a far better chance of your trip being ruined at home: Your airport taxi gets stuck in a traffic jam, your train derails, your bus gets hi-jacked.
Have fun getting here!

Domino
06-06-05, 05:35
I am off to a notary public now to get the following authorized: I met JS on two separate visits and I learned several important things from him about mongering. We have exchanged several PMs and emails, most of which concern a common interest which has nothing to do with this board. Same same with SA and Freeler. I will gladly meet any three of them again but I am choosy as to whom I meet. I note Mr Spike's comments on repetition and Freeler's same page posting about Cobra. I also have a different definition of friendship than others, ex navy men in particular (fair weather friends etc). In other words, having spoken to SA, I would respect him for that though TTMMV. I regard both Freeler and JS as having a much more mature and rational approach to skanks than I do.
Case in Point: Cobra. Samus Aran has told us the skanks come out of the woodwork for it. I am sure Pattaya will also be riddled with secret service to ensure no nasty surprises. The last navy to wreck Pattaya were the British navy, much smaller but much more aggressive when tanked up. There must be scores of bars in Pattaya whose skanks cannot get a customer even during Cobra.

Freeler: I think I did well on your rabbit game but I do not want ot boast about my rabbiting prowess lest I get flamed for it.

Bottom line: Cobra is only part of the show. No big deal.

JuiceSpike
06-06-05, 06:33
Funny stuff... In Pattaya they should name a street after you: Skank Drive or something like that... :D

juice

Anon Sailor
06-06-05, 07:04
For those who have been discussing the impact of Cobra Gold on Pattaya. I found the lack of the U.S. Navy quite refreshing, since I'm ex-Navy (Corpsman), I too can remember the days when we flooded into Pattaya. Bottom line I found Pattaya to be more relaxed, in the same way Subic became less hostile after the Navy vacated the bases there (I visited the base area in Subic in 2002, I could actually get a trike ride without the money hassle present when I was stationed there in 85’-90’).

Anon Sailor
06-06-05, 07:11
Cobra Gold is almost always held in the first two weeks of May, this year’s Cobra Gold ended on 13 May 2005. I’ve participated in several Cobra Golds from 94’ thru 99’. I can not remember any other dates we where there (USS Belleau Wood LHA3). Right now with the war in Iraq going on I would think that the U.S. Navy presence is somewhat limited.

Berty Boy
06-08-05, 15:43
I arrive back in Bkk around 5pm and got to the Majestic Suite 20mins later. I tell the receptionist I am a day late, hand over my passport and fill in the registration form. Ask about my luggage which I had left 6 days ago and the doorman goes in search. As I walk away from the desk the receptionist call me back and tells me that my girlfriend is upstairs. I usually put her name on the reservation so she does not have to leave her ID every time she come and goes but I completly forgot that she could also check-in. The receptionist can see my reaction and thinks maybe she has done something wrong. She informs me that she has been here since the day before and smiles at me. The desk staff know I checked in a week before and that I went to Pattaya and I'm now thinking maybe one of them told her. After stalling for time waitng for the porter to bring my bag I tell them to send it up to the room and head for the lift. Upto the 6th floor and I don't have a key so I ring the bell and TG opens the door. Her face doesen't give anything away but I can tell she is not happy. She ask s whet happened to me and why I didn't return any of her calls. She also tells me she does not want to hear any BS(not that I hve given her any in the past)so I tell her the truth. Well most of the truth. She then tells me that someone saw me in Nana a week before but she did not beleive them. She also tells me that she was in Pattaya on the Friday and Saturday that I was there. I try to remember where I was on those days(Polo and Living Dolls and playing pool in that big place called Tony's towards the end of Walking Street)She tells me she was in Dollhouse on the Friday but I remember we got turned away from there because T had left her ID at the my hotel and the police were checking the girls. My hearts racing now as I'm wondering if she saw me. I tell her that I want to go back to Pattaya at the weekend and she starts crying and reminds me that I promised to drive her and her family to Rayong on Saturday and her mother is coming to Bkk on Friday and looking forward to the trip. As I had promised to meet her family albeit when I was6000 miles away in London I felt I had to keep up my end. This makes her a bit happier as she wwould not loose face by having to cancel the plans that she has made. Anyway after a long talk we make up but she tells me that if in the future I want to go somewhere just tell her and I can go with her blessing but not to lie to her. She ask to see the phone I'd bought for the trip and before I knew what she was up to she was iin my phonebook and checking the call log. Whos number is this and who is On etc.

I had about 5 contacts I had made and she deleted everyone of them. She them turned off the phone and said she was taking the sim card because all these girls have my number and she doe s not want me to cumunicate with anyof them. She also went through the picture s on my phone and deleted thoes too. She also found one of a girl which she knew I took in Bkk because you could see the sky train in the background. Then she said in the morning we were going to MBK to unlock my phone and get a Thai sim card. That done she takes my new camera from it's case and turn it on and quickly works out how to access the pictures on the memory card. She is shocked at the contents as she as always refused to let me take any nude shots of her. I had about 70 pictures on 128mb card not all nudes but she did not take kindly to the sight seeing pics as T featured in them quite a bit. I under estimated how she would feel about seeing these pictures and although I'd met her in a Go-go bar she is still a very traditional Thai girl at heart. She removes the Sd card from my camera and tells me she will delete the nude pictures and the non nudes with T and give me back the card. I didn't not protest as I had lied to her and hurt her feelings and if she was willing to forgive me then it was a small price to pay. I also had a 16mb card and 31/2 hours of video she did not find. Later we go to her bar and she tells all her friends about where I'd been and what I'd done and they all had a good laugh and called me butterfly. True to her promise the next day we unlocked the phone and got a new sim card. I was disappointed that I could not go back to Pattaya but we did have a great time in Rayong with her family and I have not seen her happier. Later when she checked my phone she saw some of the numbers she had thiought she 'd deleted back on my phone as they were in the phone memory and not copied to the sim card. Well she got rid of those to. she did try my UK sim card in her phone and got sevral text messages from T. I did feel bad that I could not let T know I would not be back in Pattaya this trip as I'd promised but on reflection we all here make promise we know we cannot keep. When I got back to London the mobile phone company issued me with a new simcard with the same number but after 2 weeks T had given up trying to contact me. I've been back 5 weeks now and will make my booking for October by the end of the month. I have told TG taht when I come in October I want to go to Pattaya for acouple of days. She says this is fine and I can go on my own. I 'm in two minds with what to do about T. Should I tell her wht happened and why I didn't return or forget about it and move on to the next. Her bar is at the begining of walking Street and although I could avoid itI don't feel like creeping around when I get there. I will be posting a few pictures I have left shortly.

Berty Boy

Marco Pole
06-08-05, 18:41
Berty,

Interesting report but honestly dude, you're on vacation! Enjoy yourself and don't let this chick walk all over you. No way in hell I would let a bar girl erase my memory stick and trash my sim card. Just tell her u went to hang out with friends and leave it at that. Unless you seriously have plans on taking this chick back to the UK, which is a big mistake IMHO, maintain your control. Its your money and vacation!

MP

Domino
06-08-05, 20:17
Berty: Great post. I am glad you know who wears the panties. Not nice making her folks lose face but I am glad you sorted it out. Always post your pics here first - then hand over your SIM card, credit card, camera etc. Good to see your gf is a techie. Does she have the software TT has? If not, you could bs by saying you took all of those photos in a former life before you were reincarnated as her pussy whipped bf

Your friend

John T Domino, Prisoner #4591492,The Jackson Hilton
(unjustly serving 9 years to life, for trying to peace make on the Thai Photos/Repost Jackson's Posts thread. This injustice is going to be bigger than The Fugitive. We wil make a movie, call it The Traveler. It goes like this: a nice handsum man is having a 3 sum with 6 dwarves when an evil chopper hovers overhead................

Terry Terrier
06-09-05, 00:00
Are we all allowed to cloak our personal attacks with 'humour' in order to ignore Jackson's wishes and not inconsiderable efforts to confine them to the new thread? What must Jackson be making of such behaviour?

Spursman
06-09-05, 00:24
Berty Boy,

You sound like one of the "good guys".

and I was creasing up with laughter reading your report and the way you were chastised by your TG!!

My question is, do you have genuine feelings for her?

I think it was great that you kept your word and took her and her mum to Rayong, but, as another board member pointed out.

You're on holiday! Do what makes you happy!

Dinghy
06-09-05, 20:10
Domino - great so you get in the "key" for posting text in the photo section and now post a photo in the text (not really, but it makes a good story line) section. What's this group coming to???? :^)

MeatMan
06-10-05, 17:57
Immigration arrest British Go-Go bar owner without work permit

Immigration Police arrest Englishman suspected or managing a go-go bar without a work permit

PATTAYA: -- Police Captain Jackgrit from Pattaya’s Immigration Department assembled a team of officers and went to the Diamond Go-Go Bar in Soi Diamond off of Walking Street after receiving information from an informant that an English Man was managing the bar without a work permit.

Police arrested Mr. Richard Clearland aged 56 who Police suspected was the Manager of the venue.

Joining him at the Immigration Department was Khun Akaradet the license holder. Both fully cooperated with officers who charged Mr. Clearland with working in the Kingdom of Thailand without a Work Permit. It was not made clear to us the penalties the bar and Mr. Clearland will face.

Walking Street Beer Bars closed by Pattaya’s Chief of Police in Late night raid

PATTAYA: -- It is widely known in Pattaya that after the go-go bars and disco’s close Beer Bar’s normally remain open, sometimes all night, should you wish to continue your evening drinking and enjoying the nightlife of Pattaya. Although these beer bars and strictly breaking the law, this practice has been tolerated by Police until now.

Police Colonel Somnook, Pattaya’s Police Chief was on patrol along Walking Street at 4am when he noticed beer bars still serving alcohol. He decided to stop them serving and arrested the offending bar managers.

We understand that three bars along the street received particular attention and the managers of each were taken back to Pattaya Police Station along with one foreign man charged with public order offences after he had said a little too much to one of the officers.

It is unclear if this is a new policy of Pattaya Police to ensure that Beer Bars close at the same time as other venues or whether this was a one off and raids such as these will not happen again.

--PCN 2005-06-10

RasSpewtin
06-13-05, 20:37
Berty Boy:

No offence intended, but I damn near choked on my lunch when I read about your unfortunate escapades with the TG that basically wrapped you around her finger and twisted you blue.

Here are a few things that I have learned from several trips and hard-learned lessons from Thai Girls.

1. Don't be so damn honest. Thai girls lie. No need for you to spill your guts to them; they will only use the truth to screw you around and embarass you in front of her friends. Not only that, they will add lies to your truth to make it sound even worse. Tell them a white lie, while wearing one of those dumb-ass smiles that Thai guys wear when they are lying to you through their teeth. SHe'll accept it as the truth, even if she knows it's bullshit, because you have saved her face. And by the way, the way that she told all about you to her friends, right in front of you, is considered a serious loss of face. She would never have tolerated the same treatment from you.

2. NEVER give a TG your phone. Turn it off and lock it up when you are sleeping.

3. If you are serious about a TG, and intend to use your mobile phone for fun in Pattaya, then for God sakes, go to MBK and buy another phone (or at least a separate SIM) just for that purpose.

4. Before returning from a trip that includes lewd photos and videos, download them to your laptop and delete them from your phone and camera. NEVER let a TG use your laptop. Tell her that your laptop is for business only, and give her 50 Baht for the internet cafe.

5. NEVER add a TG to your hotel registration. Think of a good bullshit excuse if you need to, but just don't add her name.

6. When in LOS, you gotta learn to take control. If you don't, TGs are damn good at walking all over you.

Raz