Subscription Membership Option [Archive]

JuiceSpike

09-13-05, 21:08

Jackson,

I'm not clear if I understood your policy regarding Senior members: A Senior member will have complementary (free) subscription for life with access to PMs and Photo Galleries?

Thanks for all the hard work and I completely understand your need to start charging for the service.

juicer

Hi Juice Spike,

I had to be careful with my wording there. The Senior Members will continue to enjoy all the features that they currently have, without charge, including the ability to download the photos and the PM system. However, they would need to purchase a subscription if they wanted to access to the NEW features such as the Photo Gallery browser or the alternate "Stealth Mode" view. That's why I didn't use the words "complementary subscription".

Remember, we're only talking $10 dollars.

Thanks,

Jackson

JuiceSpike

09-13-05, 23:05

Jackson,

Thanks. It makes sense. 10 bucks its a good deal despite all the hard work we "Senior" members do reporting. BTW, nice business move for you ....:)

juice

Little Wing

09-13-05, 23:08

Jackson,

Let me start by saying that you have managed to create a uniquely useful and pleasant forum. I have not been here for long, but whenever I’ve asked for advice I’ve always had good, polite, feedback (even to my naive questions). It’s so much better than some of the competitors that I could name. The strength of the forum is the membership base, and the rules that you have had in place have given them an incentive to behave sensibly. Because it is a pleasant place, the members stay, and contribute.

I hope that the changes do not lead to any degradation of the membership base. Continuing the PM and Photo privileges of current Senior Members is a smart move, of course. But will there enough incentive for current Regular Members and Subscribers to contribute wisely? Of course, you could argue that Senior Members don’t have much incentive, but most of them seem to have been “trained” by the process, at least in my experience.

I have a few specific questions:

1. Will the current differentiation between Regular and Senior remain (posts from Regulars being moderated)?
2. Will Subscribers have to go through the same process, or will they be unmoderated immediately? If the latter, are there other incentives to induce Subscribers to make sensible contributions?
3. Would you consider giving PM and photo privileges to NEW Senior Members? This would provide an incentive to stick around and contribute to those who didn’t want to become Subscribers.

Anyway, congratulations again on an excellent Forum.

Little Wing

Hi Little Wing,

I can answer your first two questions like this:

As the Forum's software is currently written, reports are either displayed immediately OR placed in the Admin moderation queue, depending upon the setting for the poster's membership group.

I have paid to have developed a modification to the Forum's software that will allow all reports to be immediately displayed in the Forum and simultaneously listed in the Admin moderation queue. This would mean that everyone's reports would be visible immediately, but I would still have a systemized method for reviewing the reports and edit or delete the SPAM.

This software modification is being tested on the Argentina forum where it has performed perfectly, and thus I expect to install it here in the next several days. This new function will essentially eliminate the current distinction between the Regular and Senior Members.

Of course, I'm always reluctant to advertise upcoming software improvements because if, for one reason or another, the implementation is delayed, I find myself the receiptant of numerous emails complaining that I haven't made the improvement.

Regarding your 3rd question, as existing Regular Members who qualify for Senior membership are now automatically upgrade to Senior Membership, they will have the same privileges as existing Senior Members, including photo viewing and PM access.

Thanks,

Jackson

Sam2004

09-13-05, 23:27

I find the idea disgusting.

Shame on you, Jack-O.

Hi Sam2004,

I'm somewhat surprised by your comments.

Would you care to elaborate?

Thanks,

Jackson

Little Wing

09-14-05, 00:39

Jackson,

Thanks for the quick reply. Your modified posting procedure sounds useful. I guess there will still be an incentive for people to be good, otherwise their posts will disappear. I think that you need to have some sort of stick or carrot, otherwise the forum will deteriorate.

Regarding your 3rd question, as existing Regular Members who qualify for Senior membership are now automatically upgrade to Senior Membership, they will have the same privileges as existing Senior Members, including photo viewing and PM access.
I'm pleased to hear that. This will give exisiting Regular Members an incentive to stick around, keep posting, and turn into productive Senior Members. You might consider rewording the home page to reflect this.

Little Wing.

1Ball

09-14-05, 01:59

Hi Jackson, being a senior member, I am grateful to you for all the hard work, and that you are offering to grandfather senior members in, with all the benefits a pay membership offers, save a couple. I don't know if and how often I would use the 2 options which are only available to paying members, but in light of the fact I use this forum regularly, and do enjoy it, most of the time, save for a couple of miscreants, here's my $19.95. I just paid through Paypal.

Guys, time to step up. Jackson is asking for a little help, dig into your pockets. In probably over half the countries this forum reaches, he is asking for less than it costs for a cheap fuck. I have always found it astonishing this site was free. Considering the wealth of information availalbe to us, 20 bucks is one helluva bargain.

Keep up the good work, Jackson, and put the money to good use.

1ball

Jaimito Cartero

09-14-05, 02:28

I think the amount of time and effort that Jackson has put into the site it is only fair that he get's a little back. I think he´s actually been pumping money into it for awhile, especially with the change of domain names and all the problems with the photo section earlier this year.

I think it´s very generous to let the Senior Members keep the same perks, and I hope that many will buy at least the 6 month membership to show their appreciation. I know that I´m going to do my part.

As someone who is always having to delete PM's (I keep important tips on them, and try to save the best ones for when I'm out mongering and need the info). If you could double the space for Super Duper Subscription members, it would be great.

Domino

09-14-05, 03:01

Jackson:

1. As soon as I am back in civilization, $20 will be winging its way to you.

2. Please give more crystal clear details on how to pay via paypal, which I have never used. I ask this as, like many others, I want to keep my credit card details completely confidential. I think payment methods deserve a lot of space.

3. I am surprised you are still solvent, given the size etc of this site.

4. Maybe have a link on this page explaining what you are doing. I tend to skip the entry page and go to new reports immediately. I am sure others do the same. People say your front page is a newspaper format. If so, many of us like to go dorectly to the sports page.

Hi Domino,

PayPal is an online credit card processor. Your subscription purchase, including your standard credit card info and credit card number, is handled entirely by them. I never see any of this information.

Here's how it works:

1. You click on the "Order" button on the Forum's order page.

2. The button open a link directly to PayPal, transmitting only the specifics of your order, which is just a description (1 year Subscription) and the dollar amount ($19.95). This process DOES NOT transmit your Username or any of your Forum membership information.

3. On the PayPal website you will see a summary of your order: A 1 year subscription for $19.95 paid to "WSG Charities".

4. You approve the purchase by selecting the "Approve" button, and on the next screen PayPal asks you for the usual credit card info including your credit card number.

5. You enter the info just like any other online credit card purchase, and then approve the charge.

6. The final screen is a summary of your purchase, with a "Finish" button.

7. When you click on the "Finish" button, PayPal sends you back to the ISG Forum.

8. In the background, PayPal also transmits an approval code back to the Forum, said approval code simply indicating that the purchase was approved, and the Forum software then activates your subscription.

I never know your credit card info, and PayPal doesn't know what member actually made the purchase. This information is completely seperate.

One final note: Your subscription is made in the name of "WSG Charities", which is the name on your credit card statement. If anyone is interested, a visit to the charity's website at www.wsgcharities.com indicates that it is actually a charity that provides food for children in Argentina, which it actually does. Nowhere on the charity website is there any mention, connection or link to the Forum. Should you ever need to explain the charge to a third party, there's an easy explaintion: "A friend runs this charity and I decided to make a small donation". Simple.

Thanks for your interest,

Jackson

Vic Nate

09-14-05, 03:17

I do not know about PayPal.

I do not use credit cards.

Can I pay by money order or cheque?

Nice Guy 99

09-14-05, 04:06

Jackson,

Let me first say Thank You ... for all you've put into this.

I'm more than OK to send funds to support the site. Maybe I haven't read things carefully enuf ... but how do Sr Members send something to you via Paypal without getting classed as new joiners?

Cheers,

NG99

Hi Nice Guy 99,

I appreciate your support, both in the forum and financially.

Purchasing a subscription will have no effect on your current membership status. What it will do is give you access to the additional features, in your case The Photo Gallery Viewer and the Banner-Free Stealth Mode.

Thanks,

Jackson

Chingoneus

09-14-05, 04:09

Domino

09-14-05, 05:51

Jackson:
1. I tried to pm this information to you. The six month suscription works out slightly cheaper on an annual basis than the annual subscription. Maybe you can fix it up to save future flames?
2. I have now read your blue ink below and will pay you in a few weeks time when I emerge from Mindanao.
3. I was told your admin pm account had exceeded its allowed capacity.
4. I imagine you will make a success out of all this in time. It has been very interesting to watch it grow into a viable business model.

Hi Domino,

You didn't see that the one year subscription includes 2 extra months, which means you pay $19.95 for 14 months.

The 1 year subscription averages out to $1.42 per month.

The 6 month subscription averages out to $1.65 per month.

Thanks,

Jackson
And I'm wearing glasses as I read:(

AZN Monger

09-14-05, 05:51

Jackson,

Here's my $10, thanks for grandfathering us in.

AZN Monger

Domino

09-14-05, 07:32

Jackson: You have done something few others have managed to do; get $20 out of Domino.
Members: Paying up is straight forward once you have your credit card information in front of you. Follow Jackson's blue ink instructions on my earlier post by clicking Order. You are then given the option of returning to merchant (= Jackson) or signing up to paypal. I signed up to Paypal (straightforward) and was then given the option to return to merchant Jackson, which I did.
All in all, very straightforward and an excellent investment even though I would have paid more to ignore the self dick photos Juice Spike and others post:D Hopefully, we will be able to put a tiny dent in Jackson's massive expenses, legal included.

GettingTang

09-14-05, 08:51

Jackson:

Kudos for going this long without having to get monetary support from the membership. I think your options for paying are terrific, however, paying with credit cards or PayPal is not an option for me because I need to continue to keep my actions from being discovered. Is it possible for you to accept payment with a money order? I've seen other sites accept money orders as payments for access to their websites. I can hide cash expenses but I can't hide the credit card or the PayPal transactions.

Thanks,

ChingoneusThis is probably the issue of many here and perhaps should be address. I have long ago called for Jackson to charge a fee for this site. It is by far the superior informational trading site on all the web. At $20 annually it's the bargain of the century. Even better then employee pricing. However, this site goes beyond viewing just a little porn. People are posting specific paid for sex, experiences. If you use paypal or a credit card there will for ever be a record of this associating all your actions fro years of paying for pussy, with a money transaction. If someday, whether it be next week or twenty years from now this site get whacked by LE, guess what? You'll have a financial transaction directly associated with your thousands of posted sexual experiences. It would be sort of hard to explain away.

So my question is simply, is there some way to pay via money order, etc?

Hi Chingoneus,

I've checked this several times: There's no connection between your ISG Username and the PayPal charge. In addition, the Forum's servers are not in the USA, meaning that they are located outside of the purview of the US Legal System.

Secondly, I've been considering a mail-in option, but at the current time it would mean a potential 1 to 3 month delay to implement your subscription because it would have to wait until I returned to the USA to collect the mail.

However, there seems to be more interest in this option than I had imagined, so I'm investigating other options.

Thanks,

Jackson

Rodmanj

09-14-05, 09:43

Jackson,

I have always looked for a donation option on the message board, because
I can understand about the cost. So I don't mind supporting this board in away. For the information that members have provided and the board that you have maintained my 20 twenty is on the way.

P.S. Does that come with a ST or LT option :) ?

Hi rodmanj,

Personally, I'm anticipating an TL relationship between this Forum and it's members.

Thanks,

Jackson

Sebastian My

09-14-05, 09:47

Jackson
Agree with this change, but a suggestion. Would it be possible to set up a postal payment method - where we just send you a cheque with the forum login name and email details - some of the members may get nervious providing any form of credit card numbers - for many reasons.
Cheers,

p.s.

As I am a senior member I don't need to pay, but I would regardless wish to provide a donation to your fine public service, but perfer to do it via a cheque, money order or 2 x RM100 notes in an unsigned envelope. My local rector would be a tad unimpressed with my postings if he ever found out through some strange high-tech business intelligence application.

Hi Sebastian My,

I sincerely appreciate your support.

Regarding your question about paying by mail, please read my comments to GettingTang two posts down.

Thanks,

Jackson

CA Traveler

09-14-05, 10:52

Jackson... seems to me that you've carried the burden with little compensation for too long. Thanks for GFing us in...

Just something to be aware of though with PayPal... If someone tries to use it from the FSU, former Soviet Union, PP will block their account and they will have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it up again... You may want to point out that some countries have blocked access for PayPal, even if they are a "verified" user.

Hi CA Traveler,

I'm currently working on implementing an alternate payment system.

Stay tuned.

Thanks,

Jackson

Stravinsky

09-14-05, 16:12

Jackson,

After all the time, effort and money that you have put into creating the best sex travel forum on the internet, the only surprise is that you didn't start charging for it a long time ago. Many thanks, Jefe, for grandfathering in all of us Senior members.

Since you are processing the membership fees through WSG Charities, is it still possible to earmark a donation strictly to the Charity?

I'd like to light up my "WSG Charities Contributor" banner, if that's still possible.

Junior

09-14-05, 16:37

Jackson,

I am actually glad you finally allowed to help pay for the forum. For all us frequent and travelling mongers it is an essential guide that stands way above anything you can find in Lonelyplanet guides.

Junior

Thank you sir!

Jaimito Cartero

09-14-05, 16:46

Jackson: You have done something few others have managed to do; get $20 out of Domino.Well, other's have gotten $20 out of you, but generally they have to do something quite different to get it. :0

GandJim

09-14-05, 17:05

Hi Jackson,

Just back on the forum after several weeks absence. Not sure I understand what the new features such as the Photo Gallery browser or the alternate "Stealth Mode" view mean, but my USD 20 are on their way (with my deepest gratitude) as soon as I saw there is a mean to contribute.

I just can't say how much the forum has helped me on numerous occasions. Thanks so much to you.

Jim

GandJim,

You are welcome.

Thanks,

Jackson

The Old Sarge

09-14-05, 17:14

Ok, few days ago I got email from you saying I was now a senior member. According to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php I have the privilage of viewing and posting photos. There is no photo link on page.

Where is the link to U.S. forums? Old links are dead.

Every time there is a change to this site my password no longer works. I have to go thru the nut role of getting a new one.

Hi The Old Sarge,

The USA and the ISG Forums are completely seperate.

The email you received was regarding the USA Forum, where you were upgraded to Senior Member because of the length of time and the number of reports you had posted on the USA Forum.

For exactly the same reasons, you are a Regular Member here on the ISG Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Marconista

09-14-05, 18:08

Jackson!

Thank you for letting us support you via paypal.

One request though; When you have paid your bills, and your account get fatter, I hope you will consider a mirrorsite for those contributing, also enabling members in the Middle East area (and other places where the forum is banned) to view WSG... sorry... ISG again.

Thanks again.

Hi Marconista,

This is one of several improvements I would expect to fund with the new subscription revenue.

Thanks,

Jackson

Buko Max

09-14-05, 20:00

Hello Jackson,

Thank you for upgrading me to senior member status. ISG has proved invaluable for info and comraderie. Having the subscription option might reduce the disreputable posters. Just like many email providers, you have to pay extra for extra services so I think most members will be willing to do so. To me the stealth mode alone is worth the price of admission! I just have one question for you. Will you offer the same subscription option at USG and will it transfer to ISG and vice versa?

Excelsior,

Mattrick

Hi Mattrick,

I haven't decided if I'm going to offer the same subscription option on the USA site, but I appreciate your interest.

Thanks,

Jackson

MeatMan

09-14-05, 21:40

Man, After seeing this site grow from infancy.......It was coming soon,

*Reaches into Pocket*

Nauti Mike

09-14-05, 22:40

I don't have a problem with this becoming a pay site, especially for the non-contributors.

As an Infrequent contributor, I have posted reports where I feel them to be of value rather than the pointless comments of others.

I find myself as a regular member, however will that status be reviewed so there is a mechanism for upgrading regular to senior and vice versa? That would keep the forum dynamic.

Keep up the good work.

Hi Nauti Mike,

Please read the Forum FAQ.

Regular Members will be automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a member for 6 months and have posted a minimum of 25 reports.

Thanks,

Jackson

Alopa1

09-15-05, 06:26

Jackson,

I am eager to pay if that keeps the service alive. I live in one of the more exciting places Bulgaria and my bank accounts, credit cards etc are either Bulgarian or from Monaco. Neither of which are accepted by pay pal.

I would gladly put 20$ in an envelope if that helps but any suggestion you have as to how to proceed is appreciated.

M.

SB Lumens

09-15-05, 07:43

All-

I haven't read any of the reports below (but intend to). Just got upgraded to Senior Member by Jackson last week.

STILL, I sent in the subscription cost without question!! The work Jackson does is worth the price many times over.

Step up people!!

SB

Rio D

09-15-05, 09:05

I know it doesn't apply to me, but since Viewing and Reg. members have to pay to use the PM system, will you once again allow the posting of email addresses in the forum? If not, we may have a return to the days of people cluttering up the boards with the "I'll meet you at _____" instructions to other members. It would be better if they could exchange emails in the forum and talk on their own time.

There's likely to be a significant number of non-paying members (who may still contribute valuable information). Some members will not be interested in subscribing just to view the photos - maybe their chosen forums have few or no photos available. And they won't want to pay just to use the PM system.

Unknown One

09-15-05, 09:25

Well, I basically noticed a bunch of people with only low double digit reports being senior members, I was also tempted to upgrade. But I figured, it be more interesting to stay as a regular member because the only restriction was the time it took for my reports to reflect on the board. Personally, I think I have offered no trouble at all with any of my reports, and I have given some decent contributions. Now I simply just want to upgrade.

I suppose some people will give me trouble about willing to pay 100 bucks to bang a girl but not 20 bucks to support our gracious host. Well, I just loved the idea that this was a free forum, something about it being free was good natured for a bunch of people who enjoy the feminine delicacies the world has to offer. Can't you get more advertising or something?

Auaind

09-15-05, 09:33

Notidik

09-15-05, 09:33

Hi Jackson,

You have my support for making this a subscription forum but I have one question. When I subscribe will I automatically be a senior member? It says in your FAQ that any member who is 6 months with more than 25 contributions are automatically upgraded. Well I am only 2 months but I have contributed 30 reports so how do I fare. The qualification should be reports and not stay around long and read but not reporting. Just my 2 cents thought. Will be subscribing soon.

Piper1

09-15-05, 11:54

Jackson,

I've enjoyed reading and posting reports and pics on ISG for over a year now. Will happily part with a few bucks for the privilege. I always wondered why you put all the hours and work in for free.

Curious about the "legal fees" - hope you're not representing Belguel. If so, please reduce my subscription fee by $2.00. ;)

Cheers

Piper

PS - I managed to check the new photo gallery function before it was removed (20 thumbnails per page) - great idea!

Bill Lee

09-15-05, 11:59

Any thought on increasing the 200 allowed PM in user's file? With paid subscription of course. I think more senior members will pay for that increase.

Bill

Member #2131

09-15-05, 14:53

Hi Jason,

Discretely paying over the internet is not always very easy. I think your site it great and would like to keep visiting it.

Sending an envelope with your member name and some money would not bother me. You've clearly shown your engagement to this great cause ;) so I am not afraid that you wouldn't activate the member's account once the funds come in by mail.

Just a suggestion, reducing the subscription fee would probably get more people to subscribe, lower the barrier and get your more funds to maintain the server.

Finally, shouldn't some limited time access or example pages be foreseen for people that are new to the site so we keep "fresh blood".

My 2 cents, I hope you will allow us to mail in money!

Hi 2131,

There is an optional membership of $9.95 for 6 months.

How much lower can I go?

I understand your perspective, but it's only 10 bucks!

Thanks,

Jackson

Domino

09-15-05, 16:46

Jackson
1. JC made a wisecrack about me skanking for $20 a pop. None of those pops has given me more joy and amusement than this site. That being so, the $20 is long overdue and I am more than happy to pay for what has been my greatest source of online entertainment.
2. I suggest you raise the levies to even amounts to facilitate your billing issues.
3. To help rectify the discreet problem: I humbly suggest you and Captain Dave buy a mobile phone, either Argentina or US based. You can give out that number to long standing members who have an issue with staying private and discreet. Then, if there is an issue, you or your officer answers the phone and says: Yes, this is WSG Charities, we are registered and have evidence of our actions posted at etc etc. Now if you don't want to contribute and as I am not authorized to answer any questions beyond what we have made publicly available, end of conversation.
4. Getting Tang or whoever can say he paid the $20 for a friend.
5. As long as there is no heavy duty illegal stuff here, LE etc won't care and we all won't be starring in an Interpol sting/bust.
6. We take risks all the time in this game. Throwing you a pittance, the price of an Asian bonk, hardly registers a bleep against what you have provided. If people cannot run with that risk, so be it. There is no fololproof system but as long as you don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on LE's shoes, they don't use those shoes to kick your ass.
7. Just my $19.95.

Sxer

09-15-05, 17:07

Have spent many happy hours perusing this site, I hope my contributions have been of benefit to other users as theirs have to me. Now with the title of Senior member I hope to continue enjoying your site and have no hesitation in making this small contribution to your costs. Well done.

Surin Boy

09-15-05, 17:23

Jackson

At the risk of being called a tight bastard I'd just like to point out that its better value to take the 6 month option. SAVE 5 cents!

Sorry but I am half scottish, I like a bargain!

Money on its way (for the YEAR!), thanks for a great forum.

Enjoy

SB

Wukong

09-15-05, 17:50

Master Jackson,

Hypothetically speaking, as you are aware that currently I'm a regular member of the forum but in the event that I do subscribe to the subscription, will it jeopardise the possibility or the prospect for a senior membership upgrade in the future and upon the elevation as a senior member, will the subscription still apply. Appreciate your time and effort for a reply. Thank you.

On The Road

09-15-05, 18:03

I had so many advantages reading in the WSG/ISG forum in so many years (since the old Atta site) that I have no doubt about subscribing even if I'm not interested in additional features and even if I never paid an internet site.
I'm just waiting for a money option, because such as many others I have many doubt about using my personal credit card for it.

Keep up the good work.

IOTR

NY Jimmy

09-15-05, 18:08

The fee is low but I think the only way for many of us to pay is by sending a money order or cash (the latter is not recommended by the postal service) by mail (to an address that could be to a P.O.Box #) with the member name and information.

JeremyAtkins

09-15-05, 19:36

I've been following this forum for quite sometime and i must say 10 dollars are not such a big deal to most countries except for asian countries that has to convert those 10 bucks to their own currency. And also payment method are still quite a hot issue to be solved. Actually there are an option on how to tackle the delay on the processing of the cheques and etc for those who pay by those method.

1. To e-mail the administrator the proof of Cheques by making a scan copy and send it to admistrator. After the admistrator received it, he will then give the subscriber a 2 months access to the entire forum site while waiting for the cheque or money order to be cleared. If The cheques is a fake cheque , then Admistrator will have all the rights to Banned Him/her from entering the site ever again.

2. Another option is by sending the money through What we called as Western Union Transfer. Eventhough by this the sender will also have to bare with the cost of wiring the money, The admistrator could somehow give an extra free month to those who opted to this method. I believe this method will be so much faster and Jackson could just get the membership fees in no time.

3. As for the new comer to the site, administrator could always give a 2 day free trial just to let them see and feel how to the forum works and at the same time also see the quality of the photos shot by the mongers. This will give the newcomers a more confident to buy the subscription.

Just a suggestion from me. I hope you'll think about it and keep up the good work. It's hard to maintain the forum and Jackson has done a great job honestly.

Tee It Up

09-15-05, 20:10

I also have no problem in paying $20 for the upkeep of this Forum however I also prefer to send a money order vs. Paypal. With the religious right controlling the White House, I have no interest in leaving a paper trail behind. Please let me know when this is available.

GettingTang

09-16-05, 01:56

Anyone complaining about $20 for year on this forum is beyond the definition of a "Cheap Charlie." $20 is not the issue. I think as clearly outlined now in 1/2 of the postings here, is a means to pay anonymously. I think your subscription base doubles if you would accept money orders. Here is an idea, charge $30 for accepting payment in this form.

Once again, this is not the same as paying a subscription to a porn site, your paying using a CC or paypal account directly associated to your name with postings about real sexual encounters that are illegal.

I'm not trying to stir up some type of debate here, I'm trying to help. I think half, if not more of perspective memberships will be lost for this reason alone. that being Privacy issues.

We have all heard the horror stories about little black books at brothels and the embarrassing fallout from such information. This would go so far beyond a little black book discovery, it's not even funny.

Member #1088

09-16-05, 02:32

I think this is fair in order to support the web site, but I would like to be able to pay thru money order instead of pay pal credit card. Even if the credit card show as WSG Charities, if I google "wsg charities" I will get an answer of www.argentinaprivate.com which I dont wish to explain to the wife, not matter how many other. If you do a google by WSG, world sex guide does come out.

I am willing to support, but let me pay thru money order.

PVC

Lennox

09-16-05, 03:15

I think the 20 dollars a year is very reasonable and I am glad Jackson is going to recoup something from all the money he has spent to keep this great site going. Some people do not realize how expensive and time consuming keeping a popular website up and running is.

I think using PayPal is a bad idea because many online businesses that are in a grey legal area have had serious problems with paypal. There are other options which I list below. Paypal has banned adult transactions and has cut off other sites with controversial content. These sites have had their accounts frozen and lost revenues.

PayPal is owned by Ebay which is a Fortune 500 company that has a mainstream image to maintain. Recently PayPal even stopped processing transactions for ebay auctions that had anything to do with mature content.

Here are some alternatives to PayPal:

WorldPay - http://www.worldpay.com/ - A professional payment processor, run by the Royal Bank of Scotland, that acts as the middle-man for debit/credit card payments.

StormPay - http://www.stormpay.com/ - A USA based system similar to PayPal, in that you can fund payments from your USA bank account.

FirePay - http://www.firepay.com/

NetTeller - http://www.neteller.com/

William Saw

09-16-05, 03:30

Member #4611

09-16-05, 05:26

No problem here with the $20

But for some mongers living in Asia the donation to an Argentinian charity via paypal while laudable will raise a red flag when it appears on the CC transactions. I know what my partner would say.. "what the f... are you sending money there for... send it to the poor in Isaan, Aceh, Sri Lanka or somewhere closer.

Western Union might be an option.

There JUST HAS TO BE a way around this!!

Cheers,

FK

BadBoy213

09-16-05, 05:27

I have many pic to post but if I have to pay than why would i post my pictures. At least if we post certain amount of pictures than you should make it free for those who contributed there pictures to ISG.

Mr. Jackson think for second.

Royal21

09-16-05, 05:52

I liked the annual $20 amount instead of monthly as most other websites charge. But I do have a concern about the lost motivation for posting pictures.

Those of us who buy the subscription, will of course continue reading, viewing and posting as earlier. But those who decide not to buy will no longer have a reason to post pictures.

If possible, some kind of incentive (a months free membership for X pictures posted) could be a huge boost. Also to avoid abuse, there could be a rating of sorts or real/fake button. Credit for viewership given only after the viewing members approve the posted photo by a set minimum votes.

I am sure it will be a bit expensive to program the site again, but this is a critical junction. Most user content driven sites take a nose dive when they go subscription based. I would not want this one to go away.

Thank you all for reading. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

Royal

Peskadot

09-16-05, 06:30

Will the membership include USA?

Unknown One

09-16-05, 07:48

I must admit one thing though I forgot to add, it is fair to pay our host for this service. Although not charging had a certain better ideal of people getting together to share information, but our host did work hard to bring this site to life. However I have to add one more thing, using paypal, or credit card or even wire transferring would be revealing our identities and the host as well. Guess its the afterparty from eyes wide shut, we all had our fun and now its time to take off the masks and go home.

Gilbert

09-16-05, 08:09

I prefer money order or even cash. Much better than paypal or using credit card. The board is totally worth $20/year.

Asian Rain

09-16-05, 08:14

Jackson,

Just saw your website gravitating to a membership base. Having set up an adult-related web site just last year, I can give you a general warning about using PayPal. It won't be long before the linkage of "WSG Charity" to the adult-related ISG is discovered or reported, which will invariably result in the sudden freezing of your PayPal account. It wasn't long before my own adult "entertainment site" was discovered and frozen. There is no effective dispute procedure, and the warnings given by others below are perfectly valid. I got my money back, but only after 6 months of waiting and then my account was permanently frozen as well as my credit card info/bank info retained. I suspect your ISG subscriptions PayPal account will meet the same fate, despite the association with even a bona-fide charity. The dispute process with PayPal is impossible, so once you are frozen you are screwed. For more info, you can reference www.paypalsucks.com to see where things are going.

You may have much better luck with ccbill.com, which specializes in adult subscription sites. They also protect against chargebacks. Yes, their fees will be higher but ccbill has other features such as access/content control, membership tracking and member controls. Most importantly, you will at least be able to run your adult business without getting frozen out- ccbill processes transactions for sites much more intense than ISG. PayPalSucks.com has other options you may find useful.

I would be very interested to see how you fare out. I am working to reconstitute my own business, so billing is an integral part of making my model work. In addition to going forward with subscriptions, are you also considering advertising/banner sales?

Good luck, AR+

John

09-16-05, 11:34

Dear Jackson,

As a two year old senior member of ur forum i always used to wander how are u able to maintain this website without charging any fees. IMHO charging fees is not a very good idea for this forum, instead i would recommend that u ask those forum members who are in the travel agency industry to post their banners on ur website for a monthly fees.

I am most certain that real estate agents and travel agents over a period of time will certainly incorporate ur site maintenance cost as well as some profits for u.

Forexample,

you can allow brazilian girls to post there advertisements here directly, just like the hotforum web site does.

I mean this website can make u tremendous amount of money if u were to incorporate some business ideas here.

All this is just my opinion.

Jackson i wouldn't mind a bit paying for this website and ur gratuitous to us senior members any way for allowing us to enjoy all this great site has to offer, but again in my opinion ur website is nothing short of a gold mine that is if u keep it available for free.

AND NO IM NOT A CHEAP CHARLIE, I AM SUGGESTING THE ABOVE BECAUSE I FEEL UR SITE CAN BE MORE PROFITABLE BY APPLYING ADS TO IT.

Few more example would be contacting companies like Vonage, whose business in one way is very useful to our site members. If not Vonage there are many other companies who would love to advertise on this site as well. One just have to think and the possibilities are endless.

Reagards,

John

Domino

09-16-05, 12:31

1. Paypal has millions of members, It is a system that obviously works. Like other companies, paypal/ebay stacks the contract in its own favor. No doubt Jackson will expand options in the future.
2. Credit card confidentiality for most is an issue only if there is a major LE bust (and not everyone is based in the United States so think globally sometimes). It is only the infamous posters or those following an infamous agenda will lead to such a round up: Belguel for example, has not caused an LE tsunami here so far. It has been known for a long time that men travel overseas to bonk adult women: it is not a major story and it is not one the media or LE will spend time and effort pursuing as long as we confine our membership to those sekeing adult women.
3. No system is fool proof as anyone familiar with money laundering from either end will know. Jackson has IPs logged in any event.
4. All that is really needed is for Jackson to prvide a human tripwire to say this is a charity. If your wife or whatever finds out and googles up this site, just deny whatever you can deny. If you cannot even brush this aside, you should consider your MO. Then just tell her that your skank was 10/10, about 15 higher than her. If your boss catches you, just shrug it off as well as something a friend asked you to do.
5. The photo section is cool even if Sugar Babba dominates it right now. I look forward to test driving the other sections really soon.

Lao Ma

09-17-05, 02:45

I fully support the pay for membership model. We are all businessmen - and there is no such thing as a free lunch. Those who feel that somehow they have a "right" to view this site for free are missing basic business sense. It's a big issue to me here in China, because there are many viewers who go to the picture galleries who have never and will never be in China. If you need some pics or vids to wank to, then it's fair to pay for that service. There are zillions of sites on the internet like amazing cum that can give you free pictures and mpegs if you are that cheap.

As for having advertisers on WSG - I think that idea is laughable. No public company would ever risk being associated with a site that shows pictures of prostitutes and posts about where and how much those prostitutes cost. Not would any private company who ever had any postential need to raise equity or get large corporate clients.

Don't know anything about Paypal at all.

Khanaan

09-17-05, 05:24

Hi all,

I just wanna say , I am with the administrator all the way, even though i only been a member for the past month, i have noticed and seen the benefits of this sites. But I would agree with a lot of members that keeping the anonimity of a person would be wonderful.

Because, like myself I am sure there are lots of members out there, that if the other half found out some of the stuff they been up to, damn shit would hit the fan , and I don't wanna risk losing half my wealth, especially not now that things are looking so good.

Anyway I hope you come to some kind of scheme of payment so the forum is still going strong and also nobody gets hurt or gets a frying pan round the head.

Sort it out.

Long live the ISG.

Freeler

09-17-05, 11:02

PayPal, can they be trusted?

The stories about PayPal are well known.
But guess what, some of the worlds best hacksites get their income through PayPal. So at least your personals are 'safe' there:).

Jackson is on the receiving end of the trouble, PayPal are known to freeze accounts 9for whatever reason) and your cash is gone. IBill and CCBill are much better in that field, but our personals will be all over the web in no time:(.

The main question for me is: Do I want to post pictures so somebody else can get cash from another bunch of people who ruin their eyes watching computerscreens?
So far that answer is a big fat NO!

Furthermore, I usually shake my head in disbelieve when I look at the photos.
What a waste of perfectly good bandwidth!

Swede Thing

09-17-05, 12:42

Another option for paying could be http://www.paynova.com/eng/?ICP=
Seems as they don't want to be assoicated with prostitution which could be a problem.

About paying in general I have been paying member at a similar site, world sex archives or something like that. They had problem with geography outside of US and their site administrator couldn't understand my suggestion that posting questions about Ethiopia was not ideally done in their Kenya forum. So no longer a member there for me.

The good thing with this site is the knowledge from all contributors and also the sites excellent construction. I suppose 20 USD is not bad for some new features. The important thing is that people can read and write for free. That way new users can be involved which is essential for the quality of the posting.

Flood800

09-17-05, 13:29

I am more than happy to pay the $20. Could I pay by cash (I will take the risk)? To a mail box number may be? Would be good to have that option.

Routard

09-17-05, 14:00

I'm happy to discover the new subscription, not only because Jackson desearves to be paid for what he does, but also because I felt unconfortable being member of a board that was publicly and worldwide showing pictures of identifiable girls in sexual positions WITHOUT their consent (to be on Internet). Now, with this access restriction, the pictures remain in a private environment.

Thank's Jackson to reward Senior Members for their contribution. Yet, I still want to make a donation, but no way, no matter all the technical explanations about privacy guarantee, not with credit card. If I need to, I fly to BA to hand it over by cash!

Just curious Jackson, did the Belguel-gate have anything to do with this new subscription and access restriction?

Freeler

09-17-05, 15:56

Oh la la, Belguel!

Probably his favorite book:
http://rapidshare.de/files/3436023/02_-_Tintin_in_the_Congo.cbz.html

:)

(unzip cbz-files with any unzipper)

Junior

09-17-05, 17:21

hello Jackson,

I paid my $20 over paypal but cannot se whether or not the payment has been recognised on the ISG site.
How can I determine if my payment was correct and registred on ISG ?

Junior

Asian Rain

09-17-05, 17:31

Jackson and Others,

Having had a few days for this Subscription concept to sink in, there are some fundamental considerations to the addition of premium charging:

If we believe the ISG core mission statement to facilitate discussion on mongering activity, then the biggest change will come with the loss of PM capability between Senior Members and Regular Members. As I assume the ban on publishing private e-mail addresses will stand, so there will be no way for members - Senior or Regular - to communicate privately with Regular Members. The only way for Senior Members to communicate with Regular Members (and vice versa) will be to post messages in the forum. This will have the unintended effect of forcing more appropriately private discourse into the public forum. From a Senior Member's point of view, I find it a significant loss that I will not be able to PM unsubscribed Regular Members as I have gotten lots of (private) tips from these newer members.

SUGGESTION TO JACKSON>> As this is a very low bandwidth capability, I would suggest that Regular Members - subscribed or otherwise - be given at least a small (25 message?) PM mailbox. It is a benefit to all and will keep some personal messages out of the public forum.

I am still getting my head slowly around the rammifications of subscriptions on the area of photos. Photo galleries are obviously a huge draw, but they surely lead to a huge bill every month for bandwidth. Having posted a fair number of photos, I can agree with Freeler's comments below about the concerns that come with the thought of somebody else "getting cash" as a result of us posting our personal photos. However, was it reasonable to expect somebody else to pay the bandwidth bill indefinitely for the huge numbers of people who viewed our photos? I think it is reasonable for Jackson as a service provider to recover his expenses. Otherwise, pics should be banned entirely - especially if it gets us back to a free site.

What is of a more menacing concern is the copyrights to published material. I'm still thinking about this aspect before sharing more material. This change has my economist's thought motors whirring...

Thoughts for the day... AR+

Freeler

09-17-05, 20:10

Copyright...

A photographer is the copyright owner of the picture unless a- he sold his copyright b- he published the photo without claiming copyright.
In situation b- the publisher can claim copyright. This is a nasty situation that often occurs in exhibitions. In our case, Jackson could easily claim copyright for most of the pictures on his site.

What Asian Rain (and others) are concerned about is the right of image - or whatever the exact phrase is where you live - of the person in the picture.
If you are the subject of a picture, meaning that you were not just walking in the street and someone took a picture of the street, the shops everybody else and you, but the ACTUAL subject, then you have that right. There is no need to claim it - you have it. The copyright owner must have your permission before(!) he can publish the photo.

99% of the pictures on this and similar boards violate this right of the persons in the photos. Unlike Routard suggests, this right is still violated if the pictures are published, but not available to everyone, like on a pay-site or in a book or even a newspaper!

Now of course this is the internet. A friendly community where no-one gives a rats ass for any law, right or whatever. And that is sometimes a bit stupid. Belguel thought that he would come to no harm and he was wrong.

You too could be in trouble if you post (=publish) photos of recognizable persons without their permission.
The publisher, or a web-master, could be held responsible and be fined a nice sum if a DA or a lawyer somewhere decides to step in and take action. Those sums are hundreds of dollars per photo and sometimes per copy. On the web, that would be per view. Count your money while you can...

Just my €0.02....

Hargow20

09-17-05, 20:43

While I understand Jackson needs to cover his costs it seems a bit presumptuous to ask for a subscription that has built upon the members reports. In my mind it would be better if Jackson would cover his costs with banner ads instead. There is a few other sites that were free and then started charging members to make contributions. It is members reports that make this site valuable.

If we were to start paying a subsciption I would expect a better level of service from Jackson. The search has not worked since Jackson went to a new version of vbulletin. There has been several occasions when this site has gone down for weeks if not months.

GandJim

09-17-05, 21:28

I love the site as it is now, banners and advertising free. There are enough other forums out there, subscription-free and financed by advertising. Strangely enough, advertisers regularly receive positive reports and, in some cases, negative reports are deleted.

With banners and advertising, it's less "discrete" to log on in an internet cafe, hotel lobby, airport or any other public place which has Wi-Fi. I don't care much about photos, but love to read reports without worrying about anybody watching over my shoulder.

As far as I'm concerned, service from Jackson may not be perfect, but it's by far the best I've found on the net and I'm more than happy to contribute. Those who are not happy can always try to find a better site. Good luck to them. :D

Domino

09-18-05, 03:58

I paid my $20 over paypal but cannot se whether or not the payment has been recognised on the ISG site. How can I determine if my payment was correct and registred on ISG ? Junior
1. See if you can do the photo sort? I paid up and I can.
2. I see the $20 as helping Jackson in a tiny way recoup his massive investment. It will be a long time beofre he has any chnace of realistically recouping his investment.
3. Jackson is almost apologetic in asking for the money. I think we should all cough up the $20 as a donation to defray costs.
4. The focus has moved irrevocably to photos as the main attraction. Photos are travel content poor.
5. Googleing on wsg charities clearly shows the link between wsg charities on traveling for sex.

Junior

09-18-05, 06:03

Thanks Domino.
I checked the photo search and it worked fine.

Tiger 888

09-18-05, 11:22

I very much appreciate the banner free forum, and I think when spending hundreds of dollars while mongering, 20$ per year is not too much to contribute to a great forum.

So I will definitely subscribe, but what I find very ennoying is, that as a regular member, my posts in a busy thread will sometimes only show up in the 10th or even higher place. So I might reconsider not posting again before getting the upgrade.

Tiger

Bob Amp

09-18-05, 13:55

I have no problem sending a Jackson for Jackson. However, I do not want to paypal or credit card my payment. I have a feeling Jackson may come up monthly just to sort his mail. Anyway, thanks for creating this forum. I am getting ready for my 1st Asia trip, so I hope you will find a quick way of resolving us paying via MAIL.

If you want, I will pick up your mail and process for you!

Let up know when and how to pay by mail.

Bob Amp

Clifford

09-18-05, 16:11

Jackson,

I fully support the modest fee which you want to charge. I'd much rather have a cost than to have advertisements all over WSG.

I do have reservations about paypal from what I've read and also don't want to send my credit card information to them. I'd much prefer to send a money order via mail with my subscriber name so if there are ever any legal problems that there still would be no way for someone to trace transactions through court orders to produce records from you and paypal.

These charges would be difficult to explain both at home and work if they were ever questioned. I would be happy to send a two or even three year subscription via money order which would only have my membership name on it which would be totally untracable if anyone ever tried.

Hopefully you will come up with an alternate method to send money orders.

You're doing a tremendious job and deserve more than you are asking for in my opinion.

Keep up the good work!

Lelee

09-18-05, 17:56

I paypal(ed) mine.

Does this apply to the ArgentinaPriv site as well? Since it is a separate site.

Also it would be nice to see in ones profile if one is registered as a paid member or not.

thx

Member #3200

09-19-05, 04:28

I am a true believer that you sell ads on this site which would keep this forum free for us members.There's enuff members who are either shills for certain establishments or these members are not mongers themselves but hotels,SC,MP and/or escort agencies who have a free forum to advertise for free,sell them banner space in every country thread to their liking & those ad revenues will let us mongers who are the lifeline of the site & these shills stay on for free.

I want my free photos!!!

Hi #3200,

Actually, I would prefer not to clutter up the forum with banners, buttons, pop-ups, pop-unders and similar BS.

Thanks,

Jackson

Lorenzo

09-19-05, 05:27

Member #3200,

Asshole, if you clicked on the "details" link above, under the notice about subscriptions, you would see that viewing photos will still be free for senior members. Duh!

Lorenzo

Cory2005

09-19-05, 06:17

Hi Jackson,

I can't get in the Argentina site. I am a subcriber if I can get into that site.

Thanks

JuiceSpike

09-19-05, 17:18

I think $20 for a year is very cheap especially for new people learning the hobby and/or for other people travelling to new places to get info.

I also think that the success of this site is based on the content created by posters. Not all content is good and unfortunately most of the same themes and questions come up over and over. Perhaps a better search engine would be the answer but it would require massive amount of editing and data entry to make it really useful.

Anyway, thanks for this great site.

juice

Guillermo

09-19-05, 21:31

Jackson,

Those of us who remember the dark days of last winter, when the WSG/ISG server seemed to be down for weeks at a time, know how valuable your website(s) and services are to us mongers.

I think $20 a year is a fair price to pay to keep us safe from sex-travel-news withdrawal, and keep ads off the site. I will be happy to pay it, just to support your prodigious efforts.

I am curious, does the $20 membership cover our ID in all of your various sites? ISG/USG/and ArgentinaPrivate?

Mil gracias Jefe,

Guillermo

Hi Guillermo,

At the current time, the ISG is the only one of the three forums that has a Subscription Membership option.

However, please remember that the three forums are completely seperate, on seperate servers with seperate domains.

If I ever decide to offer a membership option on the other forums, it will have no connection to any subscription you may have for the ISG forum.

Think of it like this: If you want to receive both Time magazine and Newsweek, you would expect to buy two seperate subscriptions.

Thanks,

Jackson

Aussiebloke453

09-19-05, 22:40

Hi Jackson,

Like so many other current members here I share the concern that WSG Charities whilst a good idea to help mask who the monies have gone will be very uncomfortable for most to have it appear on a statement.

I have just done a google search of WSG Charities and got 943 hits. Even the wife knows about search engines!

We all recognise the work that you have put in over the years and want to contribute and or donate without question.

What would be the only way for a good number of us to make a donation would be to send a $20US note in the post along with our current login details and have the membership activated. Appreciate it if you would give some serios thought to above as I am sure there would be a very good number of other wanting to do the same.

Cheers,

Fleetz

Hi Fleetz,

It doesnt matter if the WSG Charities is easy to find or how many hits it gets. That's the point. The WSG Charity is a legitmate charity that is doing legitimate charitable work in Argentina. Nobody who goes to the WSG Charity webiste knows what "WSG" means, and it doesnt have any links to the ISG Forum.

Like I said in the Subscription FAQ, if anybody ever asks what the charge is, you simply explain that a friend runs a charity and you decided to make a small donation.

Thanks,

Jackson

Kapum

09-20-05, 09:07

I am apprehensive about disclosing information of my credit card. In any case, being from India why not have some alternate means of payment towards the subscription; may be in different currency and by means of credit to a particular account, which you may open in the name of ISG Charity etc.

JuiceSpike

09-20-05, 15:46

Jackson,

When making payment via PayPal how do you know who is paying? Where in the subscription form is there a place to put my handle name (juiceSpike) so you know who has paid and remain anonymous?

Maybe someone else in here has the answer... Thanks.

juice

Hi JuiceSpike,

I guess I'm going to have to repeat this 1,000 times:

1. There is NO connection between your Forum username AND your PayPal payment. The only thing that anyone could prove from your PalPal payment is that you as an individual made a contribution to the WSG Charities.

2. I never see any of the credit card information you give to PayPal. The only way I know who payed is because the Forum software changes your membership status when it receives a coded approval transmission from PayPal.

3. The Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, outside the jurisdiction of the USA legal system, where commercial sex is legal, and where I have first hand knowledge of the fact that the server host is only too pleased to tell outsiders looking for information to go pound sand.

Thanks,

Jackson

Num Nutz

09-20-05, 20:12

When is the subscription deadline date?

Hi Num Nutz,

There's no deadline. It's a permanent offer.

Thanks,

Jackson

Sidhartha

09-21-05, 04:45

Internet users are known as a notoriously miserly bunch, when it comes to access to sources of information. That this forum's subscription bid has been so warmly received goes to show how highly it is regarded by its members.
I agree with many senior members - even though we do not have to subscribe, we will do so, occasionally if not regularly, to express our support.
However, I really wish a more anonymous method is also offered to the more timid souls. How about mailing a money order with our handle scrawled across it?

Sorcerer

09-21-05, 12:13

Jackson,

As a senior member with complimentary access I would be happy to make a donation. However as pointed out by others, people are admitting to activities that are illegal in many areas and there really cannot be a trace back to them. Especially a financial trace. Court orders have funny way of opening up private files. I prefer a money order and a separate slip of paper in the envelope with a user-ID that you log and then throw away. This leaves no physcial traces - not even a userID written on a money order.

BTW - if you give me a mailing address via PM I WIL send a donation. Since I am a senior member I do not need you to take any action.

Best regards,
Sorcerer

GettingTang

09-21-05, 21:48

Let me put it into perspective for you. The $20 fee for this site will be recuperated hundreds of fold in the flowing areas, but not limited to these areas:

Finding a good mongering hotel at fair prices.

Saving hours of research and time on foot when arriving in mongering destinations. (you will know who, how and where to go)

Proper going prices to be expected to pay for mongering services in specific areas.

Saves countless wasted time, by knowing specifically where to go.

Tips from where and what to eat, to how to deal with legal issues.

This is just a few very informative areas of information you can find in minutes from people in the "field" from this site. Saving you $hundreds if not $$ thousands of dollars and enhancing your mongering experience (most important). All for $20 a year? This is the bargain of the century!

For example. My first trip to Thailand was back in 1996, way before this site came about, I spent, on my first two week trip about $2400 on mongering related activities during that first trip. I had a fair time, but mostly hit the touristy touted areas as I knew no better. I way over spent. Then along came this site. On my past 6 trips to Thailand, most about two weeks in length, I typically spend $800-$1200, or 1/3 to 1/2 of what my original mongering expenses cost in Thailand back in 1996. And better yet, my experiences have been unbelievablly better. The price has been half, or less, the cost and the experiences have been triple the quality. ALL OF WHICH IS DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH INFORMATION OBTAINED ON THIS SITE! So you see, $20 is nothing. You'll gain it back in seconds on your first mongering trip, or experience. Trust me!

The only thing I ask for is a way to pay via mail. I'll gladly pay double the price to cover costs associated with handling a paper transaction.

Bimbo Boy

09-21-05, 22:27

Hey,

I love this forum that gave me so much. I would like to contribute, but I will never use a payment system where I could be traced.

It is not a matter of price: I am willing to pay much more than $20, as I think the real value of the forum to me is in the hundreds of dollars. It's a matter of personal security.

I vote for the idea of sending dollar bills by mail! Or I could stop by the Mansion in Buenos Aires and give personnally the money for the WSG charity.

Regards

BBB

Hi Bimbo Boy,

I guess I'm going to have to repeat this 1,000 times:

1. There is NO connection between your Forum username AND your PayPal payment. The only thing that anyone could prove from your PalPal payment is that you as an individual made a contribution to the WSG Charities.

2. I never see any of the credit card information you give to PayPal. The only way I know who payed is because the Forum software changes your membership status when it receives a coded approval transmission from PayPal.

3. The Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, outside the jurisdiction of the USA legal system, where commercial sex is legal, and where I have first hand knowledge of the fact that the server host is only too pleased to tell outsiders looking for information to go pound sand.

Thanks,

Jackson

Starfe

09-21-05, 23:20

it's amazing that you went this long.

Starfe

Global Citizen

09-22-05, 17:54

I have a few bucks in my Paypal account which I am not planning to do anything with - rather than purchasing a subscription (as short by a couple of dollars), I wouldn't mind just donating it for the great work you do on this board.

Please let me know how I can do this.

GC.

Bimbo Boy

09-22-05, 20:56

Hey Jackson,

With all the immense respect that you duly deserve, I disagree.

Let's imagine that I am stuck in a nasty divorce legal battle. A lawyer can always hire a private detective who (sometimes illegally) can trace you from your credit card purchases to your paypal accounts and then then to WSG charities (which is obviously linked to this forum). Once the trace is found, a judge can be convinced to sign a court order to get the evidence. And justice systems do cooperate across borders.

I know detectives who do this kind of things all the time:they bribe or make favors to police friends (often they are former policemen or secret service professionnals themselves).

Let me propose a solution. Jackson, with all your knowledge of mongering AND of very successfully creating and nurturing an online community, you could write and self-publish a book. Put it for sale on Amazon (at a high price). We could pay you by buying many of your books. And, in order to save the trees, make it an electronic book. Nobody would care about my credit card payments to Amazon!

Bimbo Boy.

Hi Bimbo Boy,

With all due respect, I think you guys are just way too paranoid.

First, I disagree with your statement that the WSG Charities is "linked" to the Forum. Exactly how is it "linked"? There are no links and no reference on the WSG Charities website to the forum, and only you on the inside know that "WSG" is an acronym for ..... Outsiders perusing your credit card statment do not know what "WSG" might mean, and even if they did, my forum has the initials "ISG".

Second, do you have any idea how expensive an international investigation is? Believe me, you don't do it casually.

Third, so what if someone actually suspects a connection. The WSG Charities actually does charity work. It's not a sham endeavor, so how would any one proove that your contribution to the WSG Charities wasn't actually a charitiable contribution?

Thanks,

Jackson

On The Road

09-22-05, 22:25

Jackson, we do agree. There it no connection between "John Smith" (real life name) and "Member 1234" (member username).

But all the people concerned about privacy are afraid to connect "John Smith" and WSG Charities, because WSG Charities is easly connected to ISG.
This connection is possible with our personal billing account, even if you aren't able to know our real name.
So, John Smith should be connected to the forum, even if shouldn't be connected to Member 1234.

This is why most of us are looking for an alternate and anonymous way to subscribe or to donate.

Just my 0.02 €.

Cdsgames

09-22-05, 23:44

Jackson I know a web site that will pay 1500$ + a month to have its banners advertised.

Interested ? (PM me)

Traveler 1952

09-23-05, 15:04

Jackson,

For what you've done for the community, $19.95 is a small price to pay.

Traveler

Alex Blanc

09-23-05, 15:20

Hi Jackson I'm in well worth it for all your hard work.

Hey,

I love this forum that gave me so much. I would like to contribute, but I will never use a payment system where I could be traced.

It is not a matter of price: I am willing to pay much more than $20, as I think the real value of the forum to me is in the hundreds of dollars. It's a matter of personal security.

I vote for the idea of sending dollar bills by mail! Or I could stop by the Mansion in Buenos Aires and give personnally the money for the WSG charity.

Regards

BBB

Hi Bimbo Boy,

I guess I'm going to have to repeat this 1,000 times:

1. There is NO connection between your Forum username AND your PayPal payment. The only thing that anyone could prove from your PalPal payment is that you as an individual made a contribution to the WSG Charities.

2. I never see any of the credit card information you give to PayPal. The only way I know who payed is because the Forum software changes your membership status when it receives a coded approval transmission from PayPal.

3. The Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, outside the jurisdiction of the USA legal system, where commercial sex is legal, and where I have first hand knowledge of the fact that the server host is only too pleased to tell outsiders looking for information to go pound sand.

Thanks,

Jackson

Alex Blanc

09-23-05, 15:37

I keep trying to pay by Paypal but it keeps telling credit card is already registered to this address, pleasse put in a differnt credit card number. I thought the idea was to have paypal and thats it. So i try to pay regular way via credit card transaction and it just bounces me back to paypal. Help

Yuzirneym

09-23-05, 19:52

Hello Mr. Jackson. Regret to say that after getting the regular membership, this payment thing has made this membership meaningless. I'm not having financial means for spending money, plus I have had a bad experience with Pay pal-I don't trust them very much.

Anyway, also having problems of going to places with mongering activities, I tried to use the opportunity of having contacts with individual women through PMs with members with some knowledge. Now that I can not do it that became meaningless, so I'd like a total cancellation of my membership, is it possible?

Good to be with you guys, but it didn't work, sadly.

Yuzirneym

Hi Yuzirneym,

I don't understand your position. Even without a subscription, you can still read the Forum and post reports.

So what exactly is it that prevents you from participating in the Forum? Oh, wait, I just figured it out: You never intended to actually contribute any information, you were only intetested in using the PM system to contact other forum members to solicite information from them. Thus your "protest resignation" is really a hollow threat, because this Forum wasn't really going to benefit from your involvement anyway.

Regarding PayPal, you don't need to "trust" them in order to use them to buy a subscription. Buying a subscription does not entail opening a PayPal account or keeping money on deposit with PayPal.

Yuzirneym, with all due respect, you're exactly the type of member who I believe should buy a subscription: Either contribute to this forum with content, or contribute with your credit card.

Thanks,

Jackson

Aussiebloke453

09-23-05, 22:28

With great respect to Jackson I believe a point being raised on this thread which was created specifically to address the subscription issue has been missed or ignored.

Firstly, what is almost without exception being accepted is the subscription is well recieved and no one really is complaining about the fee. No argument!

What has appeared to be missed is the suggestion to accept a money order or cash payment for the subscription. There are many reasons why I believe a good number of members here don't want to use credit cards or PayPal to pay for the membership....the reasons are the reasons are and should be accepted at that.

That said and not wanting to labour the point I for one would like those members and wanting to be paying members register their vote for a money order/cash payment for membership.

What I suggest is add 1 to the previous poster who casts a vote so we can quantify a real number rather that individually making a point.

So I cast the first vote number 1

Let us see the show of hands.

Thanks,

Fleetz

Winner234

09-24-05, 00:06

As a new member, I really enjoy this site. I have been trying to subscribe but Paypal is a problem. I am using a US credit card and I live in Bangkok. They keep trying to charge me $ 1. 95 and then tell me that when I get my card bill I will receive a 4 digit number that will enable me to subscribe then. I don't get bills since this is a visa debit, and I wanted to do this and get it over with. Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Poon Hunter

09-24-05, 09:46

I think everyone should just cough up the 20 bucks and join. I have been looking on this board for years and I agree with your new system.

You have to pay to play. I can only imagine how much bandwidth you use w/ everyone downloading pics. This will ration out your bandwidth.

Thanks Jackson,

Poon Hunter

Voracious

09-24-05, 16:24

Jackson,

I paid via PayPal and have not received a code. My paypal is registered to a different e-mail than the one I use for the board, but I did send a follow e-mail with details. Please check.

Thank you,

Voracious

Greetings,

I just added this to the Subscription FAQ:

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How do I activate the Subscription features?

The features that are available only to Subscribers are:

View the Forum's photographs.
Use the Private Message system.
Use the Photo Gallery Viewer.
View the Forum in the Banner-Free Stealth Mode.
There is no special code to activate the Subscription features.

The Subscription features are automatically activated when you purchase your Subscription.

To use the Subscription Features:

Login to the Forum using your Username and Password.
The Private Message system will be activated in the User CP.
The link to the Photo Gallery Viewer will be visible in the top menu bar.
The option to select the Banner-Free Stealth Mode will be visible in the lower left corner of the Forum.

Latina Passion

09-26-05, 01:48

First of all what is the price for current Senior members?

$19.95 Per year is one hell of a deal, WSG aka my travel Bible, has saved me a shit load of money, from Asia to South America! My ass never leaves home with out it! 33 cents with a 30 minute minimum for pussy in Peru!

$5 a night Pussy in Thailand, $11.50 for a damn hotel room, $65 tailored made suits, $11.50 tailored made shirts.

$50 a night for a two bedroom apartment in, Lima, Cartagena, Margarita Island!

Friends that I have made on this Forum, fucking pricelessssssss!

But again, my ass hates paying more then the locals, so how much is it for current Senior members?

One more thing, since we will be paying members, is it OK to bust a guys balls for being an absolute idiot?

Latina Passion

09-26-05, 03:14

First of all I'm down for the fee! But why should a non paying member receive the sam benefits as us paying members? I know I have yet to pay, Pics aside?

I come to this board for priceless information and I do mean priceless! And I do tey to contribute whaen I can.

My last few post have been about me and my chica this or me and my chica that, but I always try to include the price and names for this or that.

In my opinion, a non paying member should be able to post, byt not be able to receive, the wealth of information form us paying members.

The pics, hell they can see them just about any place.

Thanks for letting me voice!

Lance-a-Lot

09-26-05, 10:33

Jackson,

Glad to support the forum. As others have already intoned, the information here is priceless: advice on this page has gotten me laid in four continents.

I paid the fee through paypal, but I also have paypal registered at a different email. I was wondering what sort of code or confirmation would come out of it? I imagine the payment did go to my WSG account, but I cannot see any difference when I log in.

Anyhow, looking forward to many more productive encounters assisted through the help of this community.

cheers

Greetings,

I just added this to the Subscription FAQ:

================================================

How do I activate the Subscription features?

The features that are available only to Subscribers are:

View the Forum's photographs.
Use the Private Message system.
Use the Photo Gallery Viewer.
View the Forum in the Banner-Free Stealth Mode.
There is no special code to activate the Subscription features.

The Subscription features are automatically activated when you purchase your Subscription.

To use the Subscription Features:

Login to the Forum using your Username and Password.
The Private Message system will be activated in the User CP.
The link to the Photo Gallery Viewer will be visible in the top menu bar.
The option to select the Banner-Free Stealth Mode will be visible in the lower left corner of the Forum.

Steve Naive

09-27-05, 23:17

EVERYONE: in the FAQ on this subject, Jackson says:

1. I anticipate that I will add an option to pay with CCBill in the near future.
2. I anticipate that I will add an option to pay by check, money order or cash in the near future.

First, I disagree with your statement that the WSG Charities is "linked" to the Forum. Exactly how is it "linked"?
Suppose she wonders what "WSG Charities" means on my PayPal. Google's second hit for "WSG Charities" is to the ISG subscription page, and that's the link to the Forum. True, it's not a link to my identity, but it raises suspicion that I may have purchased a subscription. Suggesting that I contributed to an Argentinian charity when I have no connections there is will not convince her. If you created a less unique payee name, such as "the hobby", it would be easier to consider PayPal.

I don't want anything leading to this forum to appear on accounts for my real identity. It isn't "way too paranoid," it's just my policy to separate my real identity from the hobby. As soon Jackson provides a way to contribute anonymously, I will.

Jackson: if I pay, either by PayPal or by your future alternatives, where do I get the code, and how do I apply it to get rid of the banner? I don't see an explanation of that in the FAQ, and it would be a useful addition.

I'm totally willing to support the Forum, even though I'm a Senior Member and don't have to. It's a small price to pay for all the invaluable information that has saved money, kept me safe, avoided embarrasssment, and many other advantages. Banner-less is a great perk, but the real reason to contribute is to support ISG.

Admin

09-28-05, 07:05

Greetings,

I just added this to the Subscription FAQ:

================================================

How do I activate the Subscription features?

The features that are available only to Subscribers are:

View the Forum's photographs.
Use the Private Message system.
Use the Photo Gallery Viewer.
View the Forum in the Banner-Free Stealth Mode.
There is no special code to activate the Subscription features.

The Subscription features are automatically activated when you purchase your Subscription.

To use the Subscription Features:

Login to the Forum using your Username and Password.
The Private Message system will be activated in the User CP.
The link to the Photo Gallery Viewer will be visible in the top menu bar.
The option to select the Banner-Free Stealth Mode will be visible in the lower left corner of the Forum.

Blacklisted

09-30-05, 06:24

More than happy with the $20 annual fee, as this is a great site in many ways.
One question I had was regarding the stealth mode. I'm not finding it all that stealthy, and was wondering if this can be still improved upon?

While I'm not a technical genius by any stretch of the imagination, could something be done with the name of the site?

Doesn't hide much when the page bar and the address bar both say internationalsexguide. Would ISG be an alternative, or would this make the site too difficult for newbies to find?

I still need to close the page whenever anyone comes in, and a quick history check would also reveal pretty suss connotations.

Just a suggestion... no biggie.
Cheers Jackson, and keep up the top shelf workmanship!

Chuday

09-30-05, 07:24

Jackson,

I do not mind paying $19.95 but I do have reservations when it comes to paying via credit card. Is it possible to send you a money order via mail? Or may be a western union money transfer?

Chuday

Hitman2

10-01-05, 10:51

Jackson,
I'd be glad to pay for the forum, it's priceless by any means.

I also share the view of many forum members, that it would be good to have more neutral domainname and less obvious header.

A while ago, when the forum was a bit in trouble and the future was somewhat uncertain, I reserved a domainname to cover for all eventualities. I am prepared to donate this domainname to the community to contribute something. The domainname is pretty much what it used to be in the good oöd days....

Please PM me at your earliest convenience.

Peter 989

10-03-05, 12:25

Hello Jackson,

Nothing in this world is for free, so I will be happy to stuff 20 Bucks in an envelope and send it to whatever address you choose.

I do have a very big concern about my Privacy, if there is only the remotest chance to trace my Identity -technically- then I will not do it. Too much Shit happens.

If you want to make money from this site I would advise you to come up with a simple and fool-proof anonymous cash payment plan as fast as possible.

Thanks and keep up the good work.

Ace Gallant

10-07-05, 05:04

Hi Jackson,

Well done for maintaining the forum so far.

Call me stupid but are we saying that Senior Members will continue to enjoy everything without subscription or are we saying that with the Subscription than we will be able to continue the regular everything?

In any case, even without the subscription senior member are still able to enjoy everything, I like to propose that you set up a Freewill Contribution for Senior members contribute any amount for your efforts.

If Subscription is needed regardless, than I have no objections to subscribe.

What I am saying is that with the Freewill contributions, we are not limited to only contributing $20. Some people can contribute more if feel like it.

DK

Ace Gallant

10-07-05, 06:40

Hi Jackson,

Well done for maintaining the forum so far.

What I am saying is that with the Freewill contributions, we are not limited to only contributing $20. Some people can contribute more if feel like it.

DK

Sorry Jackson,

After looking at your explaination on the subscriptions it made me felt like an idiot.

Regardless of that, I think it is also good for you to create a donations or free will contributions pool for members to contribute any amount they like to the forum. This will helps to fund your Forum.

Cheers!
DK

Langsuan Man

10-07-05, 19:26

Even though the FAQ states that you can pay by credit card every time I attempt to subscribe for the year plan I only get the Pay Pal option. What is up? Unlike other posters I have no problem giving Jackson my CC information but I will not give that information to Pay Pal. (Jackson I trust, Pay Pal I don't)

I have maintained all along that Jackson should let us members help with the cost of our hobby site. He maintains it, but it is for us to enjoy, so I will gladly pay.

But how?

LSM

Langsuan Man

10-07-05, 19:52

You don't have to create a Pay Pal account to pay Jackson but you have to go through them to use your credit card. You only find this option if you click on the PAY BY PAY PAL button, then you are given the option of creating a Pay Pal account or just using your credit card. Of course they try and get you to let them keep this informtion to make it "simpler" next time. So I stand corrected, you can pay without having a Pay Pal account.

Sporadic

10-11-05, 13:33

Dear Jackson,

An ongoing issue with members from the Middle East has been access to the forum from behind the national firewall/proxies.

I appreciate that in the past, this was an issue that you could not readily solve.

The members who are behind such proxy/firewalls are experiencing great difficulty accessing the forum.

I would suggest that if you would like these members to continue posting, or indeed, cough up $20 a year, it may be time to investigate a VPN or proxy server of your own to allow access to the forum.

I suggest that many, many prolific posters from this part of the world would see a VPN/proxy solution as ideal, and an excellent reason to pay for a subscription.

The Dubai thread has been hard hit by this problem.

Cheers,

Sporadic

GabrielSilva

10-24-05, 02:28

Dear Jackson,

I would sincerely contribute with the amount that you kindly requested in your mail from today concerning the subscription fee.

I intend to support the ISG as I am quite grateful for the privelege of having access to so varied information concerning travelling related matters apart of the pleasure perspective!

As a former college student of Hospitality & Travel Management in Sweden I admire the work you all put up and praise you for the quality of the travel information you provide namely in the areas of lodging,pricing,air fares, not to mention the dolce vita ...!

Therefore Mr Jackson I kindly request you in my case to provide a bank account number or any other form of payment ( bank check / Western Union Moneytransfer or Moneygram) other then by credit card or the pay pal system which I unfortunetaly I am disabled to use.

I would like to continue a member ... GREETINGS FROM SWEDEN TO ALL OF YOU.

Calvin Hobbs

10-24-05, 16:19

Dear Jackson,

I am happy to support all of your efforts witha subscription.

However, my id on the internationalsexguide is Calvin Hobbs but on the usasexguide it is lothar 47.

How should I handle the subscription?

Hi Calvin Hobbs,

First, use the "Change Username" on one of the forums to change your username to match the other forum.

1. Go to the forum.
2. Login using the username and password above.
3. Select the "UserCP" link in the top menu bar.
4. Select the "Change Username" link in the left side menu list.
5. Follow the instructions to change your username.

Second, please recognize All of my forums are completely separate, with separate domain names on separate servers using seperate customer databases.

In other words, they have no connection.

Third, please realize that only the internationalsexguide.info site has a membership option.

Thanks,

Jackson

Cocko 7

10-24-05, 18:26

I have same reservation as most. paying by credit card to Pay Pal is scary. With so much publicisity in recent times surely there is a better solution. If it can be found I will surely sign up. It's great value for so much information.

Just wondering, would next year's subcription be automatic or by renewal choise?

Bill Kan

11-09-05, 16:45

It is very risky to use credit card payment. There is high possibility of being tracked down and end up on FBI's list. I hope that jackson would solve this problem by creating other means of payment such as accepting money order. I do not have any problem of paying subscription fee but the method of credit card has to definitely change.

Bill

GoingForThai

11-14-05, 13:38

I paid my subscription and now i can also see the photo gallerys again, but where ist the 'Photo Gallery Viewer'? In the example it should be avaible in the menu bar, but its not. So where to find it, or what went wrong?

Organicgrowth

12-30-05, 18:40

Jackson,

Please excuse me if this has been asked: I could not see it during my back reading...

Can we pay the subscription using PAYPAL ?

Regards, Havanaman

Organicgrowth

12-30-05, 18:43

I should spend more time reading a lot more carefully! I got the answer...

Regards, Havanaman

Flood800

01-28-06, 02:27

Please use this thread to voice your opinions regarding the new Subscription Membership Option.

Thanks,

JacksonJackson,

Thank you very much for the excellent forum. I am more than happy to pay the subscription. However, I would not like to use my credit card for this, but I am more than happy to put US$20 in an envelope and send it to any address you chose. Its self-preservation, I am sure you will understand.

Yes, I have been very lazy, I did not search through all nine pages of previous posting for alternative waysof paying, as I am only interested in pay by cash.

Please eithe reply in an open psting, or PM with your instructions.

Please help me to support your excellent forum.

Regards

Richard2002

Tequila Texas

02-04-06, 19:02

I do appreciate all the work you have done and would like to contribute. Paying by cash is really the only option that seems adequately safe. I see that you are working on it. Is it ready yet? Or when might it be ready? I am perfectly happy to take the chance of the mail getting lost with the $20.

Thanks again for a great forum.

Felipe2006

04-04-06, 03:34

Hello Jackson,

I really appreciate this forum and all the effort you put into it!

I will gladly buy a subsciption. As of now, payment methods seemto be only by credit cards and I´m not really comfortable with that (as one guy put it - "membership in this forum is one of my darkest, darkest secrets"). Any way to pay by cash? I´m not American and don´t reside in the US (but may be in US for work for a few months later this year), so there may be added difficulties (information) by way of charges by credit card or bank transfer.

Best regards,

Felipe

Monte Christo

05-17-06, 20:54

Same as evveryone here: I'd be happy to pay, but I'd like to do that by cash.

Sending a $20 bill by mail seems infinitely safer to me that to use my CC. I'd even be happy to add a $5 to cover for the additional work involved.

Monte Christo

05-25-06, 21:05

Any update on the cash subscription per chance? Thanks - MC

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Hi Monte Christo,

Actually, I just today setup an account with a mail forwarding service. There's some paperwork I need to sign and send to the personally, but it should be up and running by next week.

Thanks,

Jackson

Tequila Texas

05-26-06, 03:59

Great, please post a notice when this is ready. Many of us want to contribute but secretly.

Actually, I just today setup an account with a mail forwarding service. There's some paperwork I need to sign and send to the personally, but it should be up and running by next week.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Monte Christo

05-30-06, 18:30

Awesome - thanks for the hard work!

Rajkan

06-02-06, 06:18

Hi Jackson.

Wonderfull work. Please keep it up. I am from India and would like to subscribe to Forum so as to use the PMS , view pics , etc.

As indicated by many others on this board I too would opt for the cash payment option (even if it means a nominal add on charge).

Please do let me know how I can go about doing this.

Regds

curiousity

07-13-06, 15:38

Jackson, the anonymous cash-by-mail option is what many people have been waiting for, but putting identifiable info on the outside of the envelope is not ideal.

I assume you request this because your mail forwarding service scans in envelopes and sends you images, but there are many ways around this:

1. Instruct people to use a return address from the company of their choice, "Dept# <numeric forum userID>, Room <first two letters of username>"

Or, better:

2. Generate a hash of the same info to display on the form and have people address their mail "To: <Jackson>, Reference: <hash>"

etcetera.

Some of your members do not begrudge you your well-earned fee, but have excellent reasons to preserve their anonymity (or at least deniability). Considering that you're using an unknown third party to receive the mail, it also probably makes sense to include as little identifying information on the envelope and form as possible.

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Hi curiousity,

Come on dude. Enough is enough. What more can I do? I can tell you this: Nobody at the mail drop facility with their 10,000 customers cares one bit about what's written on the return addresss of any of the thousands of envelopes they received on a daily basis. In addition, after I receive the envelope and throw it in the trash can, there's no record that it ever existed. However, the envelope does physically sit in my mailbox for a few days, so I guess it's possible that some LEO with a warrant could, if they had a reason, get the envelope and read the email address on the outside of the envelope, but why would they? This website is completely legal! Let me say that again: THIS WEBSITE IS COMPLETELY LEGAL!!!! The only people that members are hiding from are their wives, girlfriends, co-workers, etc. not LE.

However, if you don't want to write your username and email address on the outside of the envelope, then don't. The only ramafication is that it will take longer to activate your membership.

Thanks,

Jackson

Monte Christo

07-13-06, 21:42

Thanks - money sent.

Brazil Specialist

09-01-06, 00:27

.... privileges as existing Senior Members, including photo viewing and PM access.
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ok, please let me understand the issue about Private Messages.

I was kind of absent recently, partially because I never received any messages from this site in my email.

Recently, I entered here, for the first time since the new domain name. Now today I received an email notification that I had a private message.

I discovered half a year's worth of private messages that I never read as I never got a notification for them.

I tried to reply to them. Every single one of them was denied with the message that the receiving party selected not to receive messages or has no right to do so.

I suppose they are no senior members, nor paying members.

Now, logically, I presume: if one of the two parties has PM private message privileges, it goes both ways. The member should be able to both receive and send messages. Otherwise, what are these privileges good for if one cannot establish a communication both ways?

People write me but I cannot reply to them??? That is kind of funny and very frustrating. I hope I am wrong and these privileges go both ways.

Mak Daddy

09-01-06, 03:44

Have you thought of billing per message sent? Some web sites bill in very small increments. I might use the private messaging system a few times a year, but the price per message would be pretty high, so I am disinclined to subscribe. I realize there is a transaction fee from Visa, but some sites, I believe, get around this somehow.

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Hi Mak Daddy,

My focus is not on encouraging the use of the PM system. What I'm really trying to do is encourage people to either contribute to the Forum with their information OR contribute to the forum with their credit card.

Besides, you can buy a 6 month subscription for only $12.95. I just can't believe that this price is a barrier to anyone.

Thanks,

Jackson

Mak Daddy

09-01-06, 11:15

Granted, the price will not break the bank, but, as you probably know, people have a mental block against paying for stuff on the Internet. What about breaking the prices down further. For instance, $6.95 for PM, and $6.95 for photos. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

PS I bought a subscription.

Have you thought of billing per message sent? Some web sites bill in very small increments. I might use the private messaging system a few times a year, but the price per message would be pretty high, so I am disinclined to subscribe. I realize there is a transaction fee from Visa, but some sites, I believe, get around this somehow.

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Hi Mak Daddy,

My focus is not on encouraging theuse of the PM system. What I'm really trying to do is encourage people to either contribute to the Forum with their information OR contribute to the forum with their credit card.

Besides, you can buy a 6 month subscription for only $12.95. I just can't believe that this price is a barrier to anyone.

Thanks,

Jackson

Kid03

09-07-06, 01:21

Jackson,

What if some one needs access to both ISG and AP? Is that one fee or two?

Thanks

==========================================

Please read the Subscription FAQ:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?

"Does purchasing a subscription also include a subscription to your other websites?

At the current time the USASexGuide.Info and ArgentinaPrivate.com websites do not have a subscription option. However, should I decide to offer a subscription membership option in the other websites in the future, it will be as a seperate subscription from the InternationalSexGuide.Info."

Thanks,

Jackson

Prev Enar

10-28-06, 17:23

Dear Jackson.

This is an amazing site that you have running here. RESPECT!

Wanted to subscribe (naturally) however not very comfortable dealing with credit cards details online.

Was wondering if you could setup so that we could pay via Paypal . Paypal is really good and secure and would definetly allow more people to enjoy this brilliant site. Would be fantastic

Looking forward to hearing from you regarding this.

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Hi Prev Enar,

This is posted in the Subscription FAQ.

I can't use PayPal because PayPal considers the Forum to be an "Adult" website.

You can purchase your Forum Subscription via US Mail using cash or money order. It's easy, fast and completely anonymous. Just visit the Subscription link below for easy directions to purchase your subscription by mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Thanks,

Jackson

Too Jaded

02-21-07, 13:32

Despite having reached Senior Member status last year, I for one have benefited greatly from this forum more than can be repaid. I know Jackson is not living hand to mouth, but he has given more than he has received, and I feel it is up to us to ensure that this resource remains available forever by not making it an undue burden on our great benefactor.

Jackson, thanks, you can expect my modest tribute per annum.

And to my friend SexWithSmile, welcome to the senior level!

2J

Philly D

05-16-07, 08:11

Signed up with cc and wondering how long it takes since I need to PM a member today.

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Hi Philly D,

Please read the Subscription FAQ.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php

Thanks,

Jackson

Captain America

08-30-07, 14:58

hi jackson! been a senior member since before the name chnage etc. Just noticed the gallery view feature and stealth mode feature descriptions but can't seem to find them anywhere. Am I correct in assuming that those features are not accessible to senior memebers unless we buy a memebership?
Regards,
CA

KL Guy

12-14-07, 15:41

Thought I give Jackson a helping hand! Details of membership can be found at the middle of this page @ http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php

A subscriber gets extra 1) Photo Gallery & 2) Stealth Mode. It's a good read as I just wanted to see the changes in membership benefits!

Warm regards,
KL Guy

hi jackson! been a senior member since before the name chnage etc. Just noticed the gallery view feature and stealth mode feature descriptions but can't seem to find them anywhere. Am I correct in assuming that those features are not accessible to senior memebers unless we buy a memebership?
Regards,
CA

11Bravo

12-15-07, 11:45

I'd suggest that for anyone buying a membership, that fact should be duly noted in that member's profile (if it isn't already), ala "paid member" as compared to "regular member". I know I'm be more inclined to answer a no-poster, count on 1 hand poster's questions if he's at least contributed money to this forum, as compared to "regular" members whose only "contribution" is to post the same questions, over and over again.

Deja Vu

01-24-08, 14:32

Hello Mr. J,

I use the services of www.moneybookers.com from 3 years and I am very happy with the them. Do you have a account there?

Thanks,

DJ

White Tiger

08-15-08, 09:02

Good day Jackson,

I think its time for me to get a subscription with ISG. The only problem is I have no idea which email address I used for this account.

Also if I were to use my genuine regular email address. Would it be viewable by the public or just ISG staff only?

Please don't refer me to RTTF. I only have limited time online at present. sorry

Many thanks

WT

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Greetings WT,

You may review the email address you used to register your membership by going to the USER CP (User Control Panel), select "Edit Email & Password", and then scroll down to the bottom of the form.

However, it's essentially irrelevant, because you can enter any email address you want when you buy a subscription. It doesn't have to be the exact same address that you used to register a membership.

Only I can see the subscription information, which means that only I will see your email address.

Thanks,

Jackson

Store

09-21-08, 05:48

Hi J,

Since you are the boss. No need to appricate but in ne case you are doing good job.

I want to subscribe. I have arrange a credit card with permsssion of owner to use for this but when I try to enter detai it requires postal address and other details which we don't want to give.

Can't it be done that we give only Card Number - CVV code and expiry detail.

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Hi Store,

The credit card processor requires you to provide the credit card billing address as a safeguard to prevent fradulent use of the card.

Credit card processors have required this info as a requirement for processing an online or telephone transaction since the beginning of time.

For the record, we will NEVER call the telephone number or mail anything to the address that you provide when buying your subscription.

Thanks,

Jackson

Santh2006

06-23-09, 13:44

Hi there,

I would like to get the subscription thru either pay pal or moneybrookers account.

You can send me the payment link information to [Email address deleted by Admin]

Hi,

I can't use PayPal because PayPal considers the Forum to be an adult website, and PayPal doesn't permit using their system to pay for adult websites.

The GOOD NEWS is that I have established a secure mailing address to allow ISG Forum Members to purchase a Membership Subscription by US Mail using cash. This procedure is easy, secure and completely anonymous.

To purchase an ISG Subscription Membership by mail, please log into the Forum at...

www.internationalsexguide.info

and then follow this link to the Membership Subscription page.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the easy Mail Order instructions.

As always, I appreciate your financial support and your participation in the Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

IcemanRaul

07-03-09, 10:16

I wanted to find out if i could use my ATM card which also acts as a Maestro Debit Card can be used for subscription. This is because I don't want to apply for a Master Card or Visa Card credit cards.

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Hi Icemanraul,

If your debit card has a VISA or MasterCard logo on it, then you may use it to purchase a subscription.

Thanks,

Jackson

Red 1001

09-27-09, 09:19

Hi Jackson,

I would like to subscribe ISG. One of my friend have VISA international ATM cum debit card. I would like to use this card (with his permission). Is this card (ATM cum DEBIT card with VISA logo) is valid for payment? What are other requirements for payments? Kindly help me. Thanks.

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Hi Red,

This is right on the Forum's Home Page:

Subscription Sponsorship Program!
To alleviate the issue of the Forum Members who wish to contact other members who are apparently unable to afford a subscription, I have created the Subscription Sponsorship Program, wherein any Forum Member may purchase a subscription for another member simply by entering the impoverished member's username in the Subscription Form.

Thanks,

Jackson

Drfreeman

02-15-10, 18:36

I would like to subscribe but I only have amex and swiss banking cards

Can't you get an amex account?

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Hi Drfreeman,

I accept VIAS and MasterCard.

In addition, there is also an option for purchasing a subscription using currency via the postal mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Thanks,

Jackson

Drfreeman

02-16-10, 17:02

Well sorry thats to inconvenient for me.

Hope you get Amex soon.

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Hi Drfreeman,

FYI, I will NEVER accept American Express as their processing fees are double the cost of VISA and MasterCard.

Thanks,

Jackson

Carl X

02-27-10, 11:35

Hello, Mr. Jackson,

There is 1 problem: all my financial transactions are seen by my wife. The price is not important for me.

Do you have a possibility to pay with cash? Or something else without to leave a trace for my wife?

With the text another forum Charities a straight amount of 20 $ on the creditcard-charge would be more logical than 19, 95 $.

Regards

Carl59

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Hi,

Please read the subscription FAQ.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?

There is also an option for purchasing a subscription using currency via the postal mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Thanks,

Jackson

Bargainshunter

08-20-10, 12:18

If I buy a subcription here can I use it at usasexguide.info with same username and password.

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Hi Bargainshunter,

All of my forums are completely separate, with separate domain names on separate servers using separate customer databases.

In other words, they have no connection with each other.

However, please realize that the USASexGuide is a 100% FREE website which you are welcome to use in it's entirety regardless of wether or not you do or do not have purchased a subscription to the ISG.

If you would like a membership in more that one forum, then you will need to register separately on each forum.

The three Forums are:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info (FREE to read and post)
http://www.USASexGuide.info (FREE)
http://www.ArgentinaPrivate.com (FREE)

Thanks,

Jackson

Goodtime Man

12-25-10, 03:57

Is it possible to use a Visa gift card that one can purchase at any supermarket checkout? I, for one, do not wish to use a credit card with my real name and address!

Tiny 12

03-15-11, 23:57

TomJackin

03-16-11, 00:10

Jackson (or anyone else that knows) ,

Is there a way to determine how much time is left on your subscription or whether it has expired? I think mine expires around January or February each year, but don't recall receiving an Email message this time around. I don't want to be a freeloader. At $19. 95 per year this site is an outstanding bargain.

ThanksGo to your Inbox. Stroll down and on the left under "My settings", click on "Paid Subscriptions", top of the page on the right will give you the Expiry date.

Tenth Legion

04-04-11, 13:39

Hi,

I chose to make a snail mail subscription (yeah, no credit card yet as I just got to Jakarta, Indonesia). On March 8th I sent the 2 yr payment (in USD) in an envelope, wrapped in subscription form and plain paper and followed all instructions and paid all charges.

Well, it's been 21 days and I still didn't get my email announcing the upgrade / forum notification. I was told it will take max. 10 days for air mail to reach the US and inland it would take just a cpl of days right?

Just worrying I guess. Maybe in a week I will get the upgrade. Maybe the webmaster can give me some updates?

ThanksErrrr. Webmaster / admin acknowledge receipt of my message please?

I was hoping to get a response in this thread. Or did I come to the wrong thread / forum?

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We would be please to investigate and resolve your issue, but the open forum is not the place to address individual customer service issues.

Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of every page of this website to send a customer service request to the forum administration.

PS: You should have used your credit card if you wanted your subscription activated immediately

Skyboy23

04-23-11, 18:59

Hi,

I really appreciate the idea of paid subscription for ISG.

1. It adds a sense of security as now not everybody can just send PMs and trouble the forum member. At least we know he is a paid member not just a guest.

2. Mongers will be interacting between themselves through PMs for something important. So, secrecy can be maintained.

3. ISG can get a fund for maintenance of the portal.

4. Also, the idea that paid subscribers will have the privilege to view the enlarged photograph is fantastic. It maintains the secrecy of the SW in countries where it is prostitution is illegal.

Keep it up

CChris

05-03-11, 09:59

I tried to subcribe to your site several times, but I was not able to purchase the suscription.

I have a valid credit card but it doesn't seen to work for your site.

Any ideas?

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Hi,

Please read the subscription FAQ.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?

There is also an option for purchasing a subscription using currency via the postal mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Thanks,

Jackson

Ishtar123

07-29-11, 19:42

Hello, Jackson,

A bit nervous putting my CC on here, wife looks at the bills and will question the charge for another forum Cahrities. Why don't you have an option to pay with paypal? It's easy and more discreet. Heck, if you've got an email address I can send you a payment, you can activate my account and I can be on my merry way!

Thanks

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Greetings Ishtar123,

This is right from the Subscription FAQ page:

I can't use PayPal because PayPal considers the Forum to be an adult website, and PayPal doesn't permit using their system to pay for adult websites.

Therefor, I CAN NOT accept payments by PayPal. Sooner or later, PayPal will freeze my account.I guess I'll need to re-post this in the "Letters to the Editor" section every few days.

Thanks,

Jackson

BionicMan

06-20-12, 16:38

Iv been trying to find out why I can't see pics and so on for the last three week can't get a answer from anyone, tryed everything, would love to know my start date and my end date, so I know if I need to re up some money, I'm really getting pissed off that nobody will help me!Why don't you look at the membership options and forum rules? It is all written there, as well as in the FAQ. Theree is nothing mentioned about extension of free access to old members
At the end of the day we are talking about 20$ a year...come on! dig your hands in the pocket!

Recluse2012

08-25-12, 14:27

Hi Everyone,

I want to know if the subscription is to the website or any particular forum only, currently I am in Delhi, while subscribing I will be acting as a member of New Delhi Forum, tomorrow if I change my forum from New Delhi to Mumbai (e. G) , does the subscription stays for Mumbai as well or do I need to subscribe afresh for any new forum.

I wish to activate PM and email notification for my account. I would like to know is it safe to pay by CC and how is your experience of activating it through Cash Payment Option.

Can administrators give us some idea on how many members get it activated through either mode (which one is more popular).

Thanks

BionicMan

08-25-12, 15:07

TravelEaz

12-17-12, 15:10

Hi!

I am very much eager to be paid subscriber but unable to do so as I don't use CC, here in our country there are lots of credit card fraud and unprofessional banking so do not use it at all. Can you activate option for debit card or netbanking please?

It could be off immense help and moreover everyone in India would be more than happy to subscribe through netbanking.

Please help us please.

Royalpardesi2001

12-17-12, 23:26

Where in this world are you frm my friend?

Hi!

I am very much eager to be paid subscriber but unable to do so as I don't use CC, here in our country there are lots of credit card fraud and unprofessional banking so do not use it at all. Can you activate option for debit card or netbanking please?

It could be off immense help and moreover everyone in India would be more than happy to subscribe through netbanking.

Please help us please.

CandymanLovezU

01-31-13, 09:29

Hi,

I am from India, many of us will not have credit card. However, kindly let me know when can you add paypal payment method?

Regards

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Hi,

For the 10,000th time:

I can't use PayPal because PayPal considers the Forum to be an adult website, and PayPal doesn't permit using their system to pay for adult websites.

Please read the subscription FAQ.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_subscriptions&title=Subscription%20Membership%20Details%20and%20FAQ

There is also an option for purchasing a subscription using currency via the postal mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail

Thanks,

Jackson

BogotaEM

03-10-13, 16:56

How do U-turn on the banner free mode for the site?

DelhiMongering

03-14-13, 08:27

Hi Jackson,

I am from India. I donot have credit card, but I do have a debit card. I have come across another nice way to pay for the subscription for the people who donot have credit cards. You can suggest people to use Netsafe Card facilities provided by banks (particularly HDFC bank, not sure of others). Netsafe card is a virtual card which expires after 24 hrs. It can be generated instantly through the banks website.

Regards.

PS: I have paid for my membership, but I made a little mistake while filling out the details. Instead of writing my username as DelhiMongering, I wrote Delhimongering. Please take note of it. I can't wait to get started.

MumbaiVc

01-15-14, 19:16

While activating membership, do I need to give actual address details or any fake one will do?

Voyager2008

04-26-14, 15:06

Hello,

I have been viewing various posts uptill now and have decided upon taking a subscription.

Is this $19.95 subscription for 3 months or an year. Because on some pages it say its for an year and just before the payment page it says for 3 months.

Artisttyp

05-15-14, 02:19

Jackson,

I went to renew my 1 year subscription and the only option I had to choose from was a $59.99 every 6 months CC charge. Is something wrong with the new software?

Please advise how to renew for $19.95.

Thanks.

Artisttyp.

Artisttyp

05-30-14, 05:00

Jackson,

It seems like the payment charge issue has been addressed. However when I went to pay my subscription the "GTBILL" service you use didn't go through. It was processing for more than two minutes. When I called them to find out why they said it was an issue with the ISG website not them.

Can you please check to make sure that it is working. I'd rather not send money by mail.

Thanks.

Artisttyp.

YoungPro

08-16-14, 07:32

Dear editor,

I've been trying to pay subscription but my card has been declined. First, I used a prepaid card (name, address attached) but declined. But the card is working just with other sites. Then I tried my usual credit card with my name and address. It is declined again. I have been using my card without any problem every day, even just before my attempt to subscription here, so it seems like the problem is the payment system here. Could you look into it?

Thanks

WanderingMan

10-30-14, 22:41

My prepaid Visa card was declined as well. It has far more than needed to complete the purchase. The site also refuses American Express though at some point it showed it accepted Amex, Discover, Visa, or Master Card. Please advise.

Skyboy23

11-01-14, 13:52

Thanks Jackson & ISG.

I have upgraded to paid subscription very comfortably.

I have come back to ISG after a long time. I see lot of errors coming again and again.

I hope that is resolved soon.

BlackStone9

01-06-15, 09:16

[Message to Admin deleted]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove a message directed to the Forum Admin.

The open Forum is not the appropriate venue to contact the Forum Administration regarding individual questions, complaints or comments about the administration of the Forum. Instead, please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of this page to send me an email voicing your complaints about the administration of the Forum, and I will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks!

Kiss Of Love

03-13-15, 21:08

Can someone else on the same forum pay for my subscription?

How can he do so. If I cannot contact him and so, he cannot know my email ID to enter in the subscription dialogue box?

Please explain in detail.

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Greetings Everyone,

If anyone wants to purchase a subscription for this forum member, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.

http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?

Thanks,

Jackson

ZeroCool76

04-15-15, 01:28

I'm just checking about the subscription.

Will my messages be posted normally or they'll still be supervised?

ZeroCool76

04-15-15, 22:13

I'm just checking about the subscription.

Will my messages be posted normally or they'll still be supervised?Added to this.

The name that appears on the statement when googled leads to this site only. Will there be a problem?

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Greetings,

Let me address your concerns about using a credit card to purchase a subscription.

1. Is there any danger that your credit card data might be stolen? No. Both the shopping cart service and the credit card service I use to process the credit card transactions are both conducted on secure, encrypted websites, so your credit card information is secure.

2. Is there any danger that your credit card statement will show that you've purchased a membership to this forum? No. The credit card charge will be made under another name (which I won't write here because I don't want it being found by search engines) that looks like it's a contribution to a charity.

3. Is there any danger that a law enforcement agency might force me to divulge your forum username? No. I delete the shopping cart transaction data every few days, and that's the only connection between your credit card charge and your username. In other words, the credit card charge doesn't include your username, only the shopping cart database has this info, and I have total control over the shopping cart's database.

In addition, the forum's servers are located in Hamburg, Germany, safely outside the USA legal system, and in a country where commercial sex is legal.

4. Is there a possibility that I will take your money and disappear? No. This has been a membership website for several years, and nobody here has ever reported a single problem with using their credit card to purchase a subscription. Believe me, if there had ever been a problem, it would have been reported it here.

5. Are there any options other than using my credit card? Yes. You can purchase an anonymous, pre-loaded credit card online and at numerous retail outlets. There is also an option to purchase a subscription by mail using cash.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php

Thanks,

Jackson

ZeroCool76

04-16-15, 04:12

What I meant was.

In the FAQ page.

There is a question.

What name will appear on my credit card statement?

The reply has a name which when Google leads to this site only.

Is that the name that appears on the statement or something else.

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Greetings,

Let me address your concerns about using a credit card to purchase a subscription.

1. Is there any danger that your credit card data might be stolen? No. Both the shopping cart service and the credit card service I use to process the credit card transactions are both conducted on secure, encrypted websites, so your credit card information is secure.

2. Is there any danger that your credit card statement will show that you've purchased a membership to this forum? No. The credit card charge will be made under another name (which I won't write here because I don't want it being found by search engines) that looks like it's a contribution to a charity.

3. Is there any danger that a law enforcement agency might force me to divulge your forum username? No. I delete the shopping cart transaction data every few days, and that's the only connection between your credit card charge and your username. In other words, the credit card charge doesn't include your username, only the shopping cart database has this info, and I have total control over the shopping cart's database.

In addition, the forum's servers are located in Hamburg, Germany, safely outside the USA legal system, and in a country where commercial sex is legal.

4. Is there a possibility that I will take your money and disappear? No. This has been a membership website for several years, and nobody here has ever reported a single problem with using their credit card to purchase a subscription. Believe me, if there had ever been a problem, it would have been reported it here.

5. Are there any options other than using my credit card? Yes. You can purchase an anonymous, pre-loaded credit card online and at numerous retail outlets. There is also an option to purchase a subscription by mail using cash.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php

Thanks,

Jackson

Ebauche

05-05-15, 00:32

Recently, I started having one, and only one ad start showing on the left side. I've been in stealth mode with no ads for many years. Curious.

BionicMan

05-30-15, 18:48

Recently, I started having one, and only one ad start showing on the left side. I've been in stealth mode with no ads for many years. Curious.I posted twice on this matter but my posts have been misteriously deleted.

Jackson doesn't even bother to answer or explain.

Still the subscription foresees banner free or stealth option.

The Stealth Mode is a banner-free version of the Forum that is specifically designed to be used in public locations such as an office or an Internet cafe where you may not be comfortable with others possibly viewing the InternationalSexGuide header or The Forum's banners.

Cons68

07-26-15, 13:21

Maybe I am missing something painfully obvious but even with a subscription I can not get banner free. This together with the drop in quality on the posts plus my general curmudgeon's and crankiness are putting me off this site more and more. I seriously doubt I will renew but I have the comfort of knowing I will not be missed.

And let be honest the banners are crap, I rather die than click on them.

I posted twice on this matter but my posts have been misteriously deleted.

Jackson doesn't even bother to answer or explain.

Still the subscription foresees banner free or stealth option.

The Stealth Mode is a banner-free version of the Forum that is specifically designed to be used in public locations such as an office or an Internet cafe where you may not be comfortable with others possibly viewing the InternationalSexGuide header or The Forum's banners.

Red Kilt

07-26-15, 13:25

BionicMan

07-26-15, 21:03

Just download Adblock. It's free and you can eliminate all adverts easily.

Google Adblock and pick which one is best for your platform.It might be a solution, but not the solution we look for as the terms and conditions of the subcriptions include also a banner free access.

Which is not the csase since few weeks.

Why to pay then?

Happy Jackson can make more money this way, but advertising is paid by accesses. If these drop, then also the ads drop.

Do the math.

BionicMan

07-26-15, 21:05

CleanHands

07-26-15, 22:41

BionicMan

09-04-15, 05:53

And I'm not talking about my Clean Hands.

Things have certainly tightened up since I used to post years ago. I can understand J's frustrations and being pissed at having to moderate many members. It would be a tough job.

I've offered J a little business advice to increase paid memberships, and I hope he thinks about it. From a high of 10,000 members online a day, it is now about 600 a day, and maybe 20 of those are paid members. This is a useful site, but maybe J is getting a bit jaded.I don't have any incentive to renew the subscription, then.

Pisses me off that the advertising about subscription still features "banner free" . When, in reality, it is no more banner free.

The number of paying members will decrease. And Mr J. Will count on less fixed income. Advertising is paid by hits.

I am accessing it much less as the banners are a nuisance in certain environments I can possibly see ISG (and I could see it when banner free).

His site.

His call.

Our decision.

KingsMan9

10-11-15, 03:21

Hi,

Question 1:

I really want to buy a subscription. But, I have an "sbm Smile Card" which I use on paypal. Now since I can not use paypal here, how do I buy a subscription with my "sbm Smile Card"?

Please if you don't know how to use the "sbm Smile Card", post this question in Mauritius forum. They might know!

Sbm is state bank of mauritius.

Question 2:

How do I become a senior member?

LuckyFuck009

10-25-15, 18:43

AnilRaje

02-08-16, 19:12

I want buy subscription but not using credit card I have debit card then how can I subscribe please help me is there option for debit cards or any other payment method.

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Hi,

Please read the subscription FAQ.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Subscriptions

There is also an option for purchasing a subscription using currency via the postal mail.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php

Thanks,

Jackson

World 001

05-23-16, 08:42

Can the subscription fee paid by net banking or debit card?

RobbieP

11-07-16, 00:56

Could you consider adding bitcoin as a payment option? I'd love to subscribe but I'd like to keep things anonymous. As I also visit countries where mongering is not legal.

Bitcoin would do the trick and it's very low risk for yourselves. No chance of charges being reversed or payments blocked.

OneFiveLive

11-11-16, 17:25

I am trying to subscribe. So far I have tried.

Visa debit. Card declined. It works fine everywhere else.

American Express. Card type not accepted.

MasterCard credit card. Card declined. Again it works fine everywhere else.

Could someone give me some clues as to whether there is a problem with the credit card merchant or if I need a 'magic' credit card to subscribe?

Member #4605

12-18-16, 17:29

Member #4429

12-30-16, 23:17

Hello everyone.

My Subscription is getting over on Jan 4th '17.

(After RTFF).

Now my queries are as follows:

1. If I don't renew my subscription will my Inbox will be Locked and all the messages will be lost?

2. or If I don't renew being a senior member will I be able to access my inbox including sending and receiving options will be still activated post expiry date.

3. If I don't renew what are the precaution to be taken care before it expires.

4. If I renew it after X days of expiry will I my Inbox Messages will be intact or will I lose the data.

I will be obliged if someone answer my queries.

Thanks a lot.

Lgovi

09-09-17, 14:01

Greeting Jackson,

Hope everything is going well in Miami. I mailed in my 2 year subscription a couple of weeks ago. I know with all that is going on in Miami, I wonder if you will be able to process my membership. Planning a trip shortly and was hoping to get in touch via messaging with the community. Appreciate your help and please stay safe!

Govi.

I receive my mail every month. You will receive an email advising you when your subscription has been activated.

Thanks,

Jackson

HelloRajesh

10-18-17, 08:13

Hi,

I am able to write posts but not able to view photos even after purchasing 1 year subscription.

Please check and revert.

Contact Us link at the bottom of this page to send me an email voicing your complaints about the subscription and I will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks!

HelloRajesh

10-23-17, 15:26

Close this issue please.

I am able to view photos now.

Thanks.

Hi,

I am able to write posts but not able to view photos even after purchasing 1 year subscription.

Please check and revert.

Contact Us link at the bottom of this page to send me an email voicing your complaints about the subscription and I will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks!

PascalB

02-25-18, 20:46

I am trying to pay but the page after entering CC details goes blank https://quickpay.gtbill.com/Quickpay#.

Also can I pay via Amex or diners.

LoverMP

04-18-18, 11:26

Dear admin.

I googled the above name as you said it will appear in the CC statement. And when I googled it shows link to ISG website / forum. Will clearly show the card holder has links to the website / forum if someone reads the statement.

Is there any other way of buying subscription? I am from India.

Thanks.

That was a post with a made up CC number, for that reason you can google it easily. But you can buy by cash too.

A3

UltraHappy

05-22-18, 00:31

With the cash paying option, may we mail in a personal check? Or, are checks not accepted?

Roman Guy

05-22-18, 08:33

What about to adopt Pay Pal as payment method? Or maybe also it will banned by that bank?

Are not US citizen, as I am, still able to pay with credit card?

TomJackin

05-22-18, 09:10

What about to adopt Pay Pal as payment method? I agree with the PayPal option.

Bdb013

05-25-18, 21:43

It's a shame, the US is trying to cut out any websites that has anything to do with prostitution. They have shut down Backpage and craigslist here in the US. Let us know of anything we can do to help. This site has been a valuable source for my travels across the globe.

UltraHappy

06-09-18, 01:53

So, let's say I buy a Visa gift card in Germany with cash. Since this Visa card is not a US-origin credit card, I am wondering if I will be able to use it to pay for my ISG subscription. Or, will I be rejected on the basis of my residential billing address that I submit? Or, will the determination that I am US origin instead be made on the basis of my IP address?

I'd like to think that I can just buy a German Visa gift card and use that to pay for my ISG subscription. Thoughts?

SjdrFemLover

06-24-18, 15:41

I've been a regular in this forum for a around half a year then why I am not being upgraded to senior member.

[You are Senior Member Moderated.

A3

Duncan216

08-15-18, 18:08

My subscription just ended and I can't use my credit card to renew. Please put in some kind of crypto currency payment system in.

Yes, we are working on that. Thanks for your feedback.

A3

Duncan216

09-03-18, 21:51

Hi,

I've been active for more than a year. Can I get upgraded to senior member?

The requirements for Senior Membership are:

- A member for more than 6 months, AND

- A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.

The system has now been totally automated. As members achieve these requirements, the system will upgrade them automatically.

We cannot make exceptions because every time we make an exception, we get 50 emails from other members wanting me to make an exception for them also.

A3

Jafy Atl

09-19-18, 05:12

Respectfully asking, have you tried Paypal or one of the other bank / cash type options? The credit card option appears to be based on billing address (not IP address), and I'm a little leery of sending cash in the mail.

Thanks.

SlutLuster

10-26-18, 22:59

Would it be possible to pay via Western Union?

If so please provide appropriate info.

Thanks!

Go to http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Subscriptions.

Fox333

11-09-18, 00:32

JesseKairav

11-14-18, 03:54

I have been trying to update my username for the last 3 days but no luck yet. I have requested the change via contact us form and also via ISG mail. No replies whatsoever. Admin please help me.

Stykler

11-14-18, 06:42

I have been trying to update my username for the last 3 days but no luck yet. I have requested the change via contact us form and also via ISG mail. No replies whatsoever. Admin please help me.I think you can change it after 12 months, and thereafter once every 12 months. I am open to correction.

JesseKairav

11-14-18, 18:21

MrHopeful

11-30-18, 05:05

Hello!

I'm in the US and I've all credit cards from US so I'm not able to pay directly. I chose the other option of sending the cash directly to the given address in the mail order form.

However, I'm not sure if my subscription is being processed or not. How would I get any updates? On the email or on the forum?

Would appreciate any help!

MrHopeful.

You will receive an email advising you when your subscription has been activated. It will take almost a month since you send the mail until we receive it.

Admin3

Cobain098

12-02-18, 09:30

Ruata

01-06-19, 16:04

Can I subscribe using VISA international Debit card.

JustinHere

03-05-19, 19:03

Hi,

I'm unable to pay for the subscription using my visa credit card.

Please help.

Rambo647

03-25-19, 16:00

I have paid the amount on Saturday, but the features are not yet activated to my account.

Why do you think that? Because I'm seeing that you you have your subscription activated.

Admin3

Pumear

03-25-19, 22:39

Hello,

I've tried a us debit card, is credit card, and even prepaid Walmart money card. None of these have worked for me and I'm traveling next month. If I send in the money today via mail, how long would it take for me to get a subscription? What day of the month do you normally receive mail?

1 month probably will take to activate by mail.

Admin3

Travel74

04-18-19, 14:41

Hi,

None of the credit cards are working on the payment gateway. Is there a known issue?

Pumear

04-25-19, 17:45

Hello,

I sent in a letter a month ago on the 25th of March with the form and everything and even paid 25 $ with no $1 bills. When will I get my subscription? Have you received the payment yet? I haven't been able to buy the subscription with credit card yet and felt hesitant about mailing in cash and now I still don't have one.

I will not actually receive your envelope. You will receive an email advising you when your subscription has been activated when I receive all my mail from the US.

BTW 25$ dollars in 1 dollar bills? Why?

Thanks,

Jackson

Goro71

04-28-19, 08:56

I am having trouble paying for a subscription using my Visa. Please add the option to select Armed Forces Pacific (AP) in the State box for address / mailing of credit card. You have Armed Forces Europe / Africa. US over here in Japan need this option for the transaction to go through. Thank you!

Nyahbinghi83

05-04-19, 19:01

Nyahbinghi83

05-07-19, 23:54

Member #4614

05-17-19, 11:24

Member #4627

05-31-19, 06:07

I'm having Indian debit MasterCard, can I use it for paying the subscription?

Bunnyj555

06-18-19, 22:04

I'm unable to buy a subscription using my Visa Credit cards. Photo attached of the error. I use my cards for international transactions on a frequent basis, hence that shouldn't be a problem.

We are aware of the problem and it appears to be a problem with our credit card processor. We are working with them to resolve the issue and will let you know when it is resolved.

Admin3

Gagk13

06-21-19, 08:37

Hi,

Could you consider Bitcoin payments, which you could avoid financial institutions. Easier for members as well.

Have been trying to make a payment via card (from India) and couldn't get through. Hope its sorted out soon as I need a paid membership.

Cheers.

Erriicc

07-04-19, 00:28

Roman Guy

07-16-19, 10:50

Have you tried to join PayPal? Even the most important airlines have joined it.

Another method to transfer money into your account might be one of the several money transfer services such as Western Union.

IMO.

Daxj1133

08-10-19, 03:00

Dear Admin,

I've transferred the bitcoins and shared the transaction ID but never got the subscription activated. I'the request you to kindly look into it as I have sent several messages via the 'contact us' option.[Message to Admin deleted]

EDITOR's NOTE: Please send me your Bitcoin Transaction ID, also known as a TXID.

• The Transaction ID is NOT our Wallet ID, which is published on the webpage.

• The Transaction ID is NOT YOUR Wallet ID.

• The Transaction ID is similar, but several digits longer.

It should be clearly indicated in your Bitcoin account's webpage.

Please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of this page to send me an email. Thanks!

LeyenLouvain

09-08-19, 16:30

I have a Bitcoin ATM near me into which I can put cash to convert to Bitcoin.

However it is asking for the QR barcode of the wallet I want to pay into.

How do I find that barcode for an ISG subscription?

Goyo61

10-25-19, 04:33

ISG Forum - Subscription Activated!
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Greetings,

We have received your payment via BitCoin.

Your forum subscription has been activated effective immediately.

Thank you for your support,

Thanks,

ISG Forum Admin

Arjun191

02-29-20, 12:50

LilNemo

10-14-20, 16:37

Shawn112

07-26-23, 15:58

Kommodo1

10-31-23, 15:01

Hi,

I transferred BTC and also emailed txn ID still my subscription has not been activated.

Please help.

[Yes, you have 2 accounts and we gave the subscription to 1.]

Kommodo1

10-31-23, 19:44

[QUOTE=Kommodo1;2864630]Hi,

I transferred BTC and also emailed txn ID still my subscription has not been activated.

Please help.

Yes, you have 2 accounts and we gave the subscription to 1.[/[Message to Admin deleted]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove a message directed to the Forum Admin.

The open Forum is not the appropriate venue to contact the Forum Administration regarding individual questions, complaints or comments about the administration of the Forum. Instead, please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of this page to send me an email voicing your complaints about the administration of the Forum, and I will respond as quickly as possible. Thanks!