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Old Thai Hand
09-25-08, 12:33
The idea of a "fair fight" has not permeated the Thai psyche.
My comment on the Living in Thailand thread that Thais are gutless wonders applies here, as well.
Check out these rather naieve gentlemen http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7773634719578303561&ei=M5rbSOuFE5CuiAKOpN2hCw&q=documentary&hl=en
I read that one of the issues with this procedure is the fact that the whitening will disappear with time and discoloration will return. Has this been your experience?I don't think the whitening disappears so much as the teeth gradually discolor anyway. Too much red wine and coffee...
One tooth was previously badly stained, but now they are all even. So I will probably get it done again in a couple of years. Cheaper than having my car serviced...
Also went for general health check at Bumrungrad, but that is a longer and much funnier story...
Member #3428
09-25-08, 17:59
Had laser whitening done a few years ago at the Silom Dental clinic. Cost about $200. Not exactly a magical transformation, but I was happy with the result (but then I'm British...). A bit sore for 24 hours, but OK.Veneers are about the same cost and they make a mold of your teeth and apply it with some type of permanent bonding or so they say. Not sure about laser whitening or veneers.
Lover Boy #2
09-26-08, 06:45
Check out these rather naieve gentlemen http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7773634719578303561&ei=M5rbSOuFE5CuiAKOpN2hCw&q=documentary&hl=enCan't believe I watched the whole thing. These Danish guys are famous for their long winded productions. The girl who had the four "boyfriends" and had to choose which one she wanted. Was not even worthy of a good peanut. Guys who sponsor and leave deserve what they get. It doesn't work. As soon as you leave she sees a way to get more money. Even if you are paying for her room. Don't do it. Peace.
Jungle Bluebird
09-26-08, 13:02
yes it is a bit long...but it is what it is. reality can be uncomfortable at times.
after all that what Thailand is all about for millions of visitors - screwing lots of brainless Thai pussy...
JB
Check out these rather naieve gentlemen http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7773634719578303561&ei=M5rbSOuFE5CuiAKOpN2hCw&q=documentary&hl=en
Fast Eddie 48
09-26-08, 18:08
I was in Bangkok last night have a drink at soi 7 beer bar didn't see any thing good mostly skank at 9 pm head back to themae , I was staying at ruamuchatt plaza hotel saw a hottie smile at me I ask where she is heading she told me Nana disco she just came out of thermae so we head upstair for ST 1000 bht very GFE stay 2 hr very good pick up as most girl at thermae now want 1500 bht min for ST.
Fast eddie 48
Hey all,
Just curious. Anyone know of any good books - fiction, non-fiction, biography, etc that deal with the 'seedy/underbelly' side of things in Thailand/Bangkok - MP's, Go Go's, Nana, prostitution, sex trade, etc?
Thanks.
Hey all, Just curious. Anyone know of any good books - fiction, non-fiction, biography, etc
Pick up a copy of John Burdett's Bangkok 8. I found it to be a good read. I gave my copy to a couple of buddies on holiday in Thailand and they liked it, too.
http://www.john-burdett.com/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=13761137
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/26/AR2005052601295.html
Neil Hutchison's collection of light-hearted and humorous books are also great reads with some very poignant points.
http://www.moneynumberone.net/index_files/BooksandPDFsForSale.htm
Lord Farquard
09-28-08, 03:51
after all that what Thailand is all about for millions of visitors - screwing lots of brainless Thai pussy...
JB You may consider them brainless, but them seem to have enough brains to extract money from us. Some of them do it so well that you don't know what happened until you leave. Doesn't sound brainless to me.
M P Lurker
09-28-08, 09:08
You may consider them brainless, but them seem to have enough brains to extract money from us. Some of them do it so well that you don't know what happened until you leave. Doesn't sound brainless to me.
A brainy girl is good for talking! For screwing, I might never find out how brainy she is or isn't. But the girl I wanted to screw last night was studying Accounting at Ramkhamhaeng and English was reasonable. So not totally brainless.
Lord Farquard
09-28-08, 10:07
A brainy girl is good for talking! For screwing, I might never find out how brainy she is or isn't. But the girl I wanted to screw last night was studying Accounting at Ramkhamhaeng and English was reasonable. So not totally brainless.
Mick-perhaps you might share the location of your lady's business. Some of us might like to stop by and have something to eat, then she can buy you a bracelet. Sounds llike she has some brains.
M P Lurker
09-28-08, 13:02
Mick-perhaps you might share the location of your lady's business. Some of us might like to stop by and have something to eat, then she can buy you a bracelet. Sounds llike she has some brains.
One of us is confused or confusing.
Was a different student who started the restaurant.
Evil Penivel
09-28-08, 14:50
If you're expecting a report on picking up girls, I'll have to disappoint you this time. It's about a visit to the Pattaya Orphanage to make a donation.
As always, the pages are intended to be read in order - a001, b002, etc.
If you're expecting a report on picking up girls, I'll have to disappoint you this time. It's about a visit to the Pattaya Orphanage to make a donation.
As always, the pages are intended to be read in order - a001, b002, etc.
Kudos to you EP. I think all of us should make some time for the less fortunate (and I don't mean the pros). One of the best reports I have seen.
Johnthescot
09-28-08, 22:11
Kudos to you EP. I think all of us should make some time for the less fortunate (and I don't mean the pros). One of the best reports I have seen.
I agree. This has made me think a bit about what I could do. I give to charity in the UK a lot so why not in Thailand when they can be so much more unfortunate that westerners. Think I'll follow your lead and donate something to this place when I'm over in a couple of weeks. It's not like I cant afford it and after all it would be nothing compared to the cash I spend on one of these trips.
Well done.
Johnthescot
Starchild2012
10-01-08, 18:39
If you're expecting a report on picking up girls, I'll have to disappoint you this time. It's about a visit to the Pattaya Orphanage to make a donation.
As always, the pages are intended to be read in order - a001, b002, etc.
EP Thanks for sharing...You are the man..Good Luck
It was a pleasure to make eye contact with Angelina Jolie last night as we were walking on Sukhimvit around 7 p. M. Nearing Soi 4 and going in the opposite direction she was yaking something to a companion, possibly Brad Pitt, about a nut similar to almonds.
BTW in Vancouver a few years ago I saw Pierce Brosnan sitting on a directors type chair by the Ovaltine Cafe on skid row, that is crack town. Approaching him someone asked if he was James Bond and he replied, No, Joe Smith.
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2006/8/15/44814/9735/travel/Chasing+Vancouver:+Jessica+Alba+Has+No+Manners
I admit to not having done a thorough forum search, but particularly the first link seems relevant enough for all mongers, to call attention to (again ?)
I quote:
....internet cafes (in Thailand) will also be required to collect information to identify computer users, such as ID cards, time of logging in and sites visited. Shops that fail to heed the rules will face fines up to 500,000 baht...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/130808_News/13Aug2008_news11.php
http://bangkokpost.com/020908_News/02Sep2008_news27.php
Jungle Bluebird
10-07-08, 07:14
not only net cafes..any business is now required to keep logs of employee's online activities.
JB
I admit to not having done a thorough forum search, but particularly the first link seems relevant enough for all mongers, to call attention to (again ?)
I quote:
....internet cafes (in Thailand) will also be required to collect information to identify computer users, such as ID cards, time of logging in and sites visited. Shops that fail to heed the rules will face fines up to 500,000 baht...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/130808_News/13Aug2008_news11.php
http://bangkokpost.com/020908_News/02Sep2008_news27.php
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 09:24
not only net cafes..any business is now required to keep logs of employee's online activities.
JB
The evil eye of Big Brother is watching us all :(. GH
Just because you are paranoiac, doesn't mean the bastards are not out to get you.
Jungle Bluebird
10-07-08, 10:57
the government approaches sys admin's. there is a little booklet in Thai explaining the why's. being good citizens they are comitted.
so its right at the first level, company with network. suppose to file all in case gov. checks.
i figure simply another angle to squeeze money out of companies - just in case.
JB
The evil eye of Big Brother is watching us all :(. GH
Just because you are paranoiac, doesn't mean the bastards are not out to get you.
@ Giotto,
does this mean, that hotels with in-room internet access have to keep records of their guest's wanderings through cyberspace?
If so, and assuming you also have to comply, you may want to consider explicitely warning your guests about it.
You may also want to keep an up-to-date list of working proxies, for those customers needing one (without even knowing it)
@ Giotto,
does this mean, that hotels with in-room internet access have to keep records of their guest's wanderings through cyberspace?
If so, and assuming you also have to comply, you may want to consider explicitely warning your guests about it.
You may also want to keep an up-to-date list of working proxies, for those customers needing one (without even knowing it)Daddy San,
Hmmmm....I don't know of all this rules, but ... let me tell you how I see this issue:
The law was made for the Westerners, Thailand is much better in everything, so don't worry, USA. We trace what people do even in internet cafe's (that is completely impossible, btw.).
We remember this American Senator coming to Bangkok, getting in touch with some prostitution areas (of course not because he wanted to, it was just by chance LOL LOL LOL :) ) ... and then suddenly the Health Minister of the Thaksin administration announced that there is no prostitution in Thailand at all ... bla bla bla.
Now - in Livingstone's Lodge all this is a bit different, this is German Management. Of course we register, what WebSites you access, and we have this In-Room cameras to directly transfer all activities in the room to the internet - perfectly German organized and working ... so don't worry, we comply to the Thai law - hundred percent! We are - the real Thai's.
Giotto
Member #3428
10-07-08, 19:45
I quote: ....internet cafes (in Thailand) will also be required to collect information to identify computer users, such as ID cards, time of logging in and sites visited. Shops that fail to heed the rules will face fines up to 500,000 baht...
If I were you I'd be more concerned about key loggers then this rule.
I use an air card personally so rarely use an IC anywhere but recently I walked into one on Soi 22 to print some items. Walked in, used the computer, pad a few baht and walked out. No ID, the place was filled with foreigners, didn't see anyone use ID at all.
Sounds like the same laws that make it illegal to sell copied discs (this surely does not happen in LOS)... a few baht in the right hands and their stall stays open no matter what...
NicFrenchy
10-08-08, 01:33
Thailand has MANY MANY Laws, just no one cares enough to enforce them.
Jungle Bluebird
10-08-08, 04:04
careful nic
yes the police, immigration etc never check. too lazy and what the heck, more pressing tasks at hand like making money in extortion, prostition etc..
however, one of your sweet hearts, a business competitor etc only needs to go to the police and state that you've done this or that. now if this person, knows, someone etc.. police, immigration will act.
this is the time when all those 'irrelevant' laws are used against you. any pirated cd found in your condo, porn or anything found at your place at work... they will dig deep.
face loss is an issue. police etc must find something. so usually they confirep001e all pc's and then get to work.
it is not arrest what they after, but squeezing you/company on bribes. another example - most often overlooked - is pirated software.
pirated software falls under criminal law. if convicted you loose your work permit and you will get expelled within 24 hours.
porn etc is also criminal law!
in short: to minimize your exposure to liabilities any business owner or employee is well advised to follow the law 100%
jb
thailand has many many laws, just no one cares enough to enforce them.
Lover Boy #2
10-08-08, 04:28
careful nic
however, one of your sweet hearts, a business competitor etc only needs to go to the police and state that you've done this or that. now if this person, knows, someone etc.. police, immigration will act.
this is the time when all those 'irrelevant' laws are used against you. any pirated cd found in your condo, porn or anything found at your place at work... they will dig deep.
face loss is an issue. police etc must find something. so usually they confirep001e all pc's and then get to work.
it is not arrest what they after, but squeezing you/company on bribes. another example - most often overlooked - is pirated software.
pirated software falls under criminal law. if convicted you loose your work permit and you will get expelled within 24 hours.
porn etc is also criminal law!
in short: to minimize your exposure to liabilities any business owner or employee is well advised to follow the law 100%
jb
....very accurate post......a quick story;
this starts out as an on street parking dispute. the owner of a business tells some guy to stop parking his car in front of the shop because customers passing by cannot see the entrance. the on street parking was legal however....so the guy continued to park. now....there was some damage on the guy's car when he left the area one day. these are both thai's by the way.
so now, the guy with the damaged car is really upset.......next thing you know, the police are at the other guy's place of business and a woman is found inside copying one cd onto another cd using a computer in the place. then there are three police cars.....shortly thereafter abut 10 police of different ranks inside the shop.
i spoke to the shop owner a short time thereafter. he claimed that it cost him 20,000 b in bribes to make the situation go away. he was going to be charged with a serious crime of bootlegging cd's and dvd's (ha...this in a country where you can buy bootleg stuff in pantip, mbk, tuk.com, almost any street, etc.).....even though he claimed that it was only the one lady copying a music cd for her boyfriend....and only one. the shop is a legitimate business and is located across the street from where i used to live. i can see that they are not in the bootleg business based on the size of the shop and my personal observations of the place from my balcony. it turns out that the original guy who was parking his car there had a brother in law who was in the police.
in thailand the day can get bad...very fast.....and these were thai's!!
LittleBigMan
10-08-08, 04:30
Yep, there are many laws on the books and never get acted on. But you just don't know when someone is going to get a itch up their ass and act on one of them.
LBM
NicFrenchy
10-08-08, 08:30
however, one of your sweet hearts, a business competitor etc only needs to go to the police and state that you've done this or that. now if this person, knows, someone etc.. police, immigration will act.
Yes, that can indeed happend but why wait until this happends to bribe? ;)
My company is already financing some Police/government employees (Gifts, invitation to parties...) and until today, they always helped us when we got trouble (we did last year). This is Thailand.
Daddy San,
Hmmmm....I don't know of all this rules, but ... let me tell you how I see this issue:
The law was made for the Westerners, Thailand is much better in everything, so don't worry, USA. We trace what people do even in internet cafe's (that is completely impossible, btw.).
We remember this American Senator coming to Bangkok, getting in touch with some prostitution areas (of course not because he wanted to, it was just by chance LOL LOL LOL :) ) ... and then suddenly the Health Minister of the Thaksin administration announced that there is no prostitution in Thailand at all ... bla bla bla.
Now - in Livingstone's Lodge all this is a bit different, this is German Management. Of course we register, what WebSites you access, and we have this In-Room cameras to directly transfer all activities in the room to the internet - perfectly German organized and working ... so don't worry, we comply to the Thai law - hundred percent! We are - the real Thai's.
Giotto
I of course knew about your in-room cameras at LL.
They were not concealed very well as of my last stay at the beginning of this year.
But I thought they served solely to monitor the performance of your Sports Bar ladies as part of your TQM programme.
Be carefull passing this material to the authorities. Some of those "born again" morons might even consider it pornograhic..
I of course knew about your in-room cameras at LL.
They were not concealed very well as of my last stay at the beginning of this year.
But I thought they served solely to monitor the performance of your Sports Bar ladies as part of your TQM programme.
Be carefull passing this material to the authorities. Some of those "born again" morons might even consider it pornograhic..Daddy San,
BESTARD :) .
Giotto
M P Lurker
10-30-08, 11:10
Went looking for special chocolates in Emporium today.
Shouldn't have bothered.
Selection was not that wide and at 45 Baht per piece I was astonished by the price.
Recently I bought a 40 piece pack of the best chocolates ever from "Bitter und Zart" in Frankfurt for 25 Euros, being a selection of the very best from Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland, etc. That works out to be probably around 25-30 Baht per piece.
Anyway decided to buy from the Belgium chocoaltes shop Duc d'Prasline just outside Soi 33 for 18-20 Baht per piece instead.
As I had copied Fifty-fifty to buy an Olympus mju 1030SW camera (O.K. in water to 10m, virtually shock proof, and very small), I decided to just check the price in Emporium.
Nearly double the Australian airport price.
So in Emporium, stick to looking at the pretty girls, or visit the nearby Oiles. Don't buy anything too significant.
On my last visit to Bangkok, I remember sitting inside Nana at that bar just inside on the right watching the world go by, as I do everyday day/night, sipping beer, if not there, then at the bar right on the corner (names escape me) or across at the Golden Beer Bar at Nana Hotel.
Anyway, one evening, I remember sipping beer and squeezing a girls thigh when a van backed into Nana and came to a holt at the ‘T’ as you walk in. Two dodgy looking guys got out, left the motor running and walked back out against the current into a wave of googly eyed tourist, bar touts, girls doing makeup while walking to work, ladyboys doing the same in addition to flicking their hair every 30 seconds (the best giveaway) and, well, us mongers….walking with intent.
It occurred to me, albeit, after quite a few Tigers and after three or four minutes had passed and no one paying the slightest attention to the van, that given the current world political climate, what an easy way for an extremist organisation to make their statement, buy blowing me and my Tiger beer and everything within a 50 metre radius to smithereens using a van packed full of explosives.
As an Aussie, with Bali in mind and the impending execution of those you know whats, with Indonesia, the largest Muslim/Islamic state on Australia’s and Thailand doorstep, there are some ideal opportunities in Thailand - Phuket, Koh Samui, Pattaya to deliver their perverted message against the West. (bearing in mind of course that it is a very small percentage of extremist Muslims that believe this ideal). And the added excuse - perverted Westerners indulging in the sex trade.
Or what about Bangkok itself - Nana at 1am, Soi Cowboy, Patpong - have you ever wandered around Patpong at around 4pm when there are forklifts darting about moving large strong boxes around for the stall owners in readiness for the nights rip-off? One box full of explosives would do a bit of damage.
Jeez, thank God (or whatever/whoever, if any….maybe half the problem) for the peace loving beliefs of the Thai race, perhaps the reason why it hasn’t happened as casualties against the ‘West’ would result in local casualties too. Still, Balanese people died as well.
With all that being said, I’ll be there in a few weeks, drinking Tigers, and hopefully running my hand up a hot girls leg while watching the world go by and counting how many times a LB flicks the hair, because, at the end of the day, extremists of any belief have the will power to cause havoc anywhere, including my hometown. But just wanted to throw it out there……..amongst the great reports that have been posted of late.
Cheers.
Retired Army
11-01-08, 09:32
On my last visit to Bangkok, I remember sitting inside Nana at that bar just inside on the right watching the world go by, as I do everyday day/night, sipping beer, if not there, then at the bar right on the corner (names escape me) or across at the Golden Beer Bar at Nana Hotel.
Anyway, one evening, I remember sipping beer and squeezing a girls thigh when a van backed into Nana and came to a holt at the ‘T’ as you walk in. Two dodgy looking guys got out, left the motor running and walked back out against the current into a wave of googly eyed tourist, bar touts, girls doing makeup while walking to work, ladyboys doing the same in addition to flicking their hair every 30 seconds (the best giveaway) and, well, us mongers….walking with intent.
It occurred to me, albeit, after quite a few Tigers and after three or four minutes had passed and no one paying the slightest attention to the van, that given the current world political climate, what an easy way for an extremist organisation to make their statement, buy blowing me and my Tiger beer and everything within a 50 metre radius to smithereens using a van packed full of explosives.
As an Aussie, with Bali in mind and the impending execution of those you know whats, with Indonesia, the largest Muslim/Islamic state on Australia’s and Thailand doorstep, there are some ideal opportunities in Thailand - Phuket, Koh Samui, Pattaya to deliver their perverted message against the West. (bearing in mind of course that it is a very small percentage of extremist Muslims that believe this ideal). And the added excuse - perverted Westerners indulging in the sex trade.
Cheers.
That's not an unfounded fear. There has been lots of discussion among those in the counter intelligence field about how perfect the entrance to Nana Plaza is for an attack as you describe.
I dont know where else to post this so.
I come from the UK to bkk and I wanna ask what should I do about the money situation. Bring my pounds and exchange them there, if yes whats the best place? or is better to use my debit card at ATM's?
That's not an unfounded fear. There has been lots of discussion among those in the counter intelligence field about how perfect the entrance to Nana Plaza is for an attack as you describe.
Not only the entrance, which is also the only exit, and the layout in general. It's a firetrap.
Retired Army
11-02-08, 09:30
Not only the entrance, which is also the only exit, and the layout in general. It's a firetrap.
Just another reason on why I don't go to Nana Plaza.
It occurred to me, albeit, after quite a few Tigers and after three or four minutes had passed and no one paying the slightest attention to the van, that given the current world political climate, what an easy way for an extremist organisation to make their statement, buy blowing me and my Tiger beer and everything within a 50 metre radius to smithereens using a van packed full of explosives.
.Cheers.
I was thinking the same about Nana and Patpong after Bali first attack.
That is the main reason that I am not going to Nana any more although I am staying nearby when in BKK.
Patpong might go for a quick walk around to get the feeling of it. Don't go to any bars there too.
I prefer to have my drinks at Gulliver's on soi 7.
Retired Army
11-02-08, 16:25
I was thinking the same about Nana and Patpong after Bali first attack.
That is the main reason that I am not going to Nana any more although I am staying nearby when in BKK.
Patpong might go for a quick walk around to get the feeling of it. Don't go to any bars there too.
I prefer to have my drinks at Gulliver's on soi 7.
Patpong is different from Nana because they have several entrances and exits. Not just one choke point like Nana that if sealed becomes a killing ground.
I dont know where else to post this so.
I come from the UK to bkk and I wanna ask what should I do about the money situation. Bring my pounds and exchange them there, if yes whats the best place? or is better to use my debit card at ATM's?Use ATM's, they are everywhere. That way you aren't walking around with lots of cash nor do you have to worry about locking it up in your room. You should carry a reserve, for emergencies (such as traveler's cheques), but don't travel with lots of cash, too risky.
Have fun.
MadVic
Patpong is different from Nana because they have several entrances and exits. Not just one choke point like Nana that if sealed becomes a killing ground.Well, the differnce is that if a bomb goes off, less people will die on Patpong than in Nana. But if you are among the dead becausw you were in the wrong bar at the wrong time, the total figures arent't that important to you, are they.
I prefer to have my drinks at Gulliver's on soi 7.
Suppose you mean Soi 5. Or do you mean the Gulliver's in Khao San, or the one in Pattaya?
Fluffy Bud
11-04-08, 09:25
Need help from local Thai members for info. A friend is holding his bachelor party in BKK for the weekend of 11/14 11/16. I been to Thailand before and know that they absolutely love their monarchs. Just found out that the Nov 14 is the cremation of the late princess during that weekend.
Rumors is that they will be having alcohol ban and entertainment places shut down in BKK for that weekend. Some says it will just be tone down. Can anyone tell me what they have heard or what the local news is in BKK? Any bar owners online here that know any inside news?
Our plan B is to go to Pattaya, how will these type of ban/shut down work there? Will it be much more relaxed?
Please help out a distressed monger with any news.
Fluffy Bud
11-04-08, 09:33
Hey all, need some info from local Thai member. A friend of my is holding a bachelor party in BKK for Nov 14 Nov 16. We all been to Thailand various time, but has just found out that the cremation of the late princess will be during that weekend.
Rumors are that there will be alcohol ban and entertainment places shut down during that weekend for mourning. Other rumors are that they will just be toning down and telling bars to turn down the music to reflect the somber mood. Any bar owners on that have any inside news to help?
Our plan B is to go to Pattaya, will the bans and shut down be much more easier to get by around there if in fact that it is happening?
Please help out with any news for a monger in distress.
Hey guys,
Where is the best price I could get for plane flight? I am trying to book a flight from texas to Bangkok.
Try United Airlines. Flight sucks for so so service but I got a price of $1016 in early December, from LAX. They charge for drinks ($6.00) and give you minimal food. Use the flexible date feature.
Hey all, need some info from local Thai member. A friend of my is holding a bachelor party in BKK for Nov 14 Nov 16. We all been to Thailand various time, but has just found out that the cremation of the late princess will be during that weekend.
Rumors are that there will be alcohol ban and entertainment places shut down during that weekend for mourning. Other rumors are that they will just be toning down and telling bars to turn down the music to reflect the somber mood. Any bar owners on that have any inside news to help?
Our plan B is to go to Pattaya, will the bans and shut down be much more easier to get by around there if in fact that it is happening?
Please help out with any news for a monger in distress.I'm not Thai, but I live in Thailand, and IMHO, the ban would very likely be observed in almost all establishments and most of the girls will be back in their village or town of origin then. Your best luck will be with the freelancers but not many will work during these mourning days, and Pattaya might have more of them than Bangkok (or at least, they would be easier to find there).
I prefer to have my drinks at Gulliver's on soi 7.
Oddly enough, Gulliver's on soi 5 has always struck me as a likely target. It is one of the few places on Sukh that the puritanical American authorities have OK'd for patronage by embassy workers and US military personnel, Nana and Cowboy being "no go". In addition to its "American" image it is one of the few places you are likely to find a lot of Americans. It also has the distinction of being right next to soi Arab. Gulliver's is one of the few places that occasionally at least does pat-downs on the way in, not without reason I suspect.
Nana is bad in terms of layout but Patpong, with crowded night market, is only marginally better in terms of safety. It isn't something I worry much anyway- when your number's up, it's up, and it doesn't make much sense to worry about that and still take motorcycle taxis.
Need help from local Thai members for info. A friend is holding his bachelor party in BKK for the weekend of 11/14 11/16. I been to Thailand before and know that they absolutely love their monarchs. Just found out that the Nov 14 is the cremation of the late princess during that weekend.
Rumors is that they will be having alcohol ban and entertainment places shut down in BKK for that weekend. Some says it will just be tone down. Can anyone tell me what they have heard or what the local news is in BKK? Any bar owners online here that know any inside news?
Our plan B is to go to Pattaya, how will these type of ban/shut down work there? Will it be much more relaxed?
Please help out a distressed monger with any news.Haven't said anything up to now, because we still don't know for sure when and whether the bars have to be closed.
It looks at the moment that ALL the bars will be closed on 14./15./16th of November. Most likely all Naughty Massage places will be closed, too, but this is a grey zone and depends on the level of risk the owner of the place is willing to take.
This is still NOT confirmed by the police - as soon as we get the confirmation I will post it here.
Giotto
Can anyone tell me how good of a service is Air Asia. Are they reliable, dependable and safe airline? Many thanks.
Can anyone tell me how good of a service is Air Asia. Are they reliable, dependable and safe airline? Many thanks.Safe, maybe. And their air hostesses are really cute in their red uniforms, but Air Asia is not a reliable company, at least when speaking about departure time. Their flights from Bangkok are often delayed (taking off one hour later or more than the initially scheduled time) and sometimes simply canceled! Nok Air (for instance) is a comparable company and seems to be far more reliable in this respect.
Duni, I see you are current on the fact Air Asia is now flying to India......
I have flown them several times. Buy on board food, clean airplanes, not necesseraly on time, so I would not use them if I had a connection.
Safe, and friendly staff. You can pay at check in, I think an additional 10 USD, which gives you priority boarding, allowing you to sit where you wish.
I would have no problem using them again.
Terry Terrier
11-09-08, 01:00
Can anyone tell me how good of a service is Air Asia. Are they reliable, dependable and safe airline? Many thanks.
Duni, Air Asia are on a similar level to all the better budget airlines: Ninety five percent of the time, they are cheap, efficient and reasonably punctual. But when things go wrong, don't expect any type of customer-friendly service. In such circumstances, customer service is normally designated to the airport ghost :D. Don't use a point-to-point airline if you have any adhering, connecting travel arrangements. Otherwise, generally, they are fine.
Can anyone tell me how good of a service is Air Asia. Are they reliable, dependable and safe airline? Many thanks.
I was on Air Asia last night -- Kuala Lumpur to Medan, Indonesia. When I bought the ticket two weeks ago the departure was to be 19:50. Upon arrival at KLCC on another Air Asia flight, I found out by checking the internet the flight had been rescheduled to 22:00. The plane finally left at 23:15. Pretty typical for Air Asia.
I've flown them a lot. Usually good, often late. Very pretty flight attendants!
Fast Eddie 48
11-09-08, 06:26
Can anyone tell me how good of a service is Air Asia. Are they reliable, dependable and safe airline? Many thanks.Duniawala,
I have fly with air asia a few time BKK to KL and BKK to Singapore, it is a no frill cheap airline both time they are on time and full, they do charge for extra baggage and drink on the plane.
One thing is you need to book online to get cheap fare and ticket is not refundable.
Fast Eddie 48
M P Lurker
11-09-08, 06:38
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=810916&postcount=2536
Thanks, guys, for your feedback. Just needed to go to Hong Kong for a few days and they had a better timing than Sri Lankan which I usually take. No connections, so it will be fine.
Very much appreciated. Will be in BKK on 5-7 and 12-17 Dec. If anyone fancies to meet up, let me know. First two rounds on me.
1Ball, just discovered their EL CHEAPO flights to India. And Thais complain about too many Indians in LOS. Go figure.
Suppose you mean Soi 5. Or do you mean the Gulliver's in Khao San, or the one in Pattaya?
Mea culpa. I mean the one in soi 5.
Although I am also enjoying the one in Buenos Aires that I am now. Feel free to join me. I'll pay for the drinks LOL
Thanks, guys, for your feedback. Just needed to go to Hong Kong for a few days and they had a better timing than Sri Lankan which I usually take. No connections, so it will be fine.
Very much appreciated. Will be in BKK on 5-7 and 12-17 Dec. If anyone fancies to meet up, let me know. First two rounds on me.
1Ball, just discovered their EL CHEAPO flights to India. And Thais complain about too many Indians in LOS. Go figure.
Just remember that their baggage allowance is 15kg iso 20kg of most of the other airlines.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7720605.stm
This organisation was well-known, and dare I say it, respected in the UK. Never visited but would never have guessed from discussions that the girls were trafficked.
And see all the associated commentaries - makes grim reading.
Member #3437
11-22-08, 16:30
Can anyone get tiger air or asia air to confirm their payments from the US?
I cannot.
Virgin Lover
11-22-08, 23:47
Can anyone get tiger air or asia air to confirm their payments from the US?From the US, I booked an Air Asia flight from Singapore to BKK no problem.
Dobinator1
11-23-08, 02:41
Can anyone get tiger air or asia air to confirm their payments from the US?
I cannot.I recently booked a Tiger flight from Singapore to Bangkok and back, and got confirmation no problem. I was originally scheduled to just go to Singapore, but just couldn't pass up the chance to spend another enchanted weekend in LOS
What are the mongering attractions at Karaoke places?
I am not interested in singing for others nor listening to (vocal) amateurs singing.
When girls are singing, their mouth is prevented from doing "other" things.
I just don't get it and wikipedia is no help either.
Can anyone please enlighten me?
Can anyone get tiger air or asia air to confirm their payments from the US?
I cannot.
Are you paying by CC or something else. CC payments online was confirmed right away. And they emailed me the confirmation with itinerary.
Check your CC statement.
What are the mongering attractions at Karaoke places...
Can anyone please enlighten me?
As far as I can tell, DS, it is simply the case of a passable cover for operations - in many parts of Thailand it is not allowed to operate anywhere nearly as openly as in Pattaya or some small areas of Bangkok or the islands. Upcountry, particularly in smaller cities and little towns, the kareoke is allowed to operate, and ostensibly the hostesses are just there to sing, serve drinks, and maybe in some cases dance a little. There are officially no barfine, etc. Deniability is preserved for when the police come around (though invariably there is still a sizable monthly bribe demanded - I've heard in the 10-20 grand per month range is normal for upcountry kareokes)
I could not agree more that sitting in such places and being assaulted by that infernal din is a horrible experience, but see my report posted to day (Roi-Et/Maha Sarakham) for a happy result, and some of my older reports from Buriram, Surin, and Si-Saket.
The key in such places it to play it cool, avoid eye contact or other interaction with groups of tipsy Thai men, and try to get to the point fairly quickly, but politely and un-aggressively with whoever is in charge. Ask her if the ladies can be taken out (in some kareokes they cannot, in others, the older ones can but the cuties are not available, or at least not redily), and for how much. Beware of being cheated about billing - find out how much drinks cost before buying.
What are the mongering attractions at Karaoke places?
I am not interested in singing for others nor listening to (vocal) amateurs singing.
When girls are singing, their mouth is prevented from doing "other" things.
I just don't get it and wikipedia is no help either.
Can anyone please enlighten me?
There are sufficient mongering opportunities throughout Thailand that I'd rate a KTV as the very last thing to do there. Mainly reserved to locals.
I've asked this question before..sorry to repeat but I am once again looking at an asia trip. I'd love to do thailand but I've read numerous reports online regarding on the spot drug testing. I wouldn't think of smoking in thailand but it would still be in my system and show up positive on a test.
I look spanish or italian with a decent amount of tattoos. Should I not consider thailand and take my business to jakarta or cambodia ?
Thank you for reading.
Artisttyp
M P Lurker
12-04-08, 03:05
What are the mongering attractions at Karaoke places?
I am not interested in singing for others nor listening to (vocal) amateurs singing.
When girls are singing, their mouth is prevented from doing "other" things.
I just don't get it and wikipedia is no help either.
Can anyone please enlighten me?
Some people enjoy singing badly and drinking very expensive Grog so that they don't notice how bad they are.
Its all part of getting in the mood for screwing, as if we needed to get ino the mood.
In BKK its a lot cheaper to go to Massage Parlour even if
not really looking for a massage. Some MPs have KTV as well. Need something to entertain the girls while not screwing them I suppose.
But in the end ask the Thai girls why they like it.
For me its just a big waste of money.
I once tried (15 years ago) to get a Thai girl as GF who claimed she was a singer. A really fun girl but a really bad singer. Out of tune is quite normal in Thailand. Its more about looks and image.
I've asked this question before..sorry to repeat but I am once again looking at an asia trip. I'd love to do thailand but I've read numerous reports online regarding on the spot drug testing. I wouldn't think of smoking in thailand but it would still be in my system and show up positive on a test.
I look spanish or italian with a decent amount of tattoos. Should I not consider thailand and take my business to jakarta or cambodia ?
Thank you for reading.
Artisttyp
Man I've got the same issue. I travel to BKK heaps, and have not had a problem. If the boys in brown start targeting farangs in their on the spot drug tests, it will ruin the Thai tourist industry quicker than any anti-government protest or tin pot coup d’état could ever do!
What you are probably talking about is the on the spot tests they do in nightclubs. Although I have never personally experienced it, I am reliably informed that the brown shirts will raid a nightclub and prevent anyone leaving until they test those that they want to. I have not heard of a farang being tested, but I am open to correction though.
Your philosophy of not smoking pot in Thailand is a good one. Simply not worth the risk. I once had a bar girl I had known for some years offer to get me some hooch. As much as I enjoy a joint, and I had little reason to believe it was a set up, at that moment I ended our association.
You can NEVER trust any Thai!
My 2 cents worth.
Man I've got the same issue. I travel to BKK heaps, and have not had a problem. If the boys in brown start targeting farangs in their on the spot drug tests, it will ruin the Thai tourist industry quicker than any anti-government protest or tin pot coup d’état could ever do!
What you are probably talking about is the on the spot tests they do in nightclubs. Although I have never personally experienced it, I am reliably informed that the brown shirts will raid a nightclub and prevent anyone leaving until they test those that they want to. I have not heard of a farang being tested, but I am open to correction though.
Your philosophy of not smoking pot in Thailand is a good one. Simply not worth the risk. I once had a bar girl I had known for some years offer to get me some hooch. As much as I enjoy a joint, and I had little reason to believe it was a set up, at that moment I ended our association.
You can NEVER trust any Thai!
My 2 cents worth.
Yes this is what I am talking about. Even when I just drink my eyes get bloodshot. I am one of those people that when Im buzzed it shows on my face. I would certainly want to test me if I was cop performing drug tests.
Thank you for your response.
Yes this is what I am talking about. Even when I just drink my eyes get bloodshot. I am one of those people that when Im buzzed it shows on my face. I would certainly want to test me if I was cop performing drug tests.
Thank you for your response.
IMHO You are worrying too much. No need. I am not smoking but have been going to Thailand a lot. Never had or heard of on the spot testing.
What are the mongering attractions at Karaoke places?
I am not interested in singing for others nor listening to (vocal) amateurs singing.
When girls are singing, their mouth is prevented from doing "other" things.
I just don't get it and wikipedia is no help either.
Can anyone please enlighten me?I am not a fan of karaoke places (and it's an understatement), but it's sometimes your only option in small towns in some parts of the Land of Smiles. The quality of this kind of establishments greatly varies from place to place. Most of the time, you go there with friends and you can choose as many ladies you want to entertain you and they will seat with you at your table (in some places, you can be assigned a private "VIP" room and then, you will have to pay for the room and time spent there with the girls in addition to your drinks and food, but usually, it's just one part of an area visible by the other patrons such as in a discotheque or a nightclub).
Not much too expect at this stage: the girls will serve you drinks, order several dishes and plates of fruits (the girls will almost certainly say that they are hungry but usually don't eat much once the food is added on your bill), speak (more or less, depending on your mutual and respective language skills) with you, and sing syrupy Thai love songs (sometimes, a few Farang songs are also available). You can sing too if you wish and dare (transliteration in English of the lyrics is usually displayed as subtitles). Not my thing (and the rainy seasons is already long enough in this country), but to each his/her own!
The girls will let you grope them a little on premises, but usually not too much. They are (most of the time) very friendly, charming and pretty, not too bad singers (some of them are even really good, but the available tunes almost certainly won't be your cup of tea). They may or may not (the "special period of the month" probably being the most frequently given excuse when not) accept to spend the rest of the night with you at your place / hotel afterward, but it's usually rather expensive (considering the local wages and comparing with other kind of venues in a slightly wider area: a brothel for instance can usually be found within a 50 kilometer radius from everywhere I've been in Thailand so far).
You can very quickly spent more than 1000 baht per person even if you don't drink much (but it's often a lot more, especially in places where you are entertained in "VIP" rooms) in average in karaoke clubs located in little or middle-sized towns and the girls will usually ask a 1000 to 2000 baht extra to go out with you (1500 baht in average), but be aware that some of them won't go out with (Farangs? ) customers and are just there to entertain patrons on premises and nothing more.
Usually, karaoke places are a waste of time and not very good value for the money spent. But some of them are just brothels in disguise. I've tried the following several times: I clearly explain upfront that I don't have too much time and want to know if girls are available for ST / LT sessions and if yes, what are the rates. The best deal I've had then was 300 baht per hour (or 800 baht all night) for the karaoke owner, plus what the girl wants for her time (not much usually and it's more like a tip then: 200 or 300 baht more for instance for an one-hour long ST session). In the same area, the "barfine" was 500 baht per hour and 1300 baht all night in the other karaoke clubs!
In another province, I've been able to get a not too bad deal in a karaoke who has (very basic) rooms for ST sessions: 700 bahts for one hour (everything included, no tip expected) with a real cutie there (it was 1000 baht ST if I've wanted to go with her to another place). But again, local brothels are better value (300 to 500 baht ST for Farangs usually). The girls are in average more beautiful in karaoke clubs though (especially in the ones that have "VIP" rooms), but not always.
... never had or heard of on the spot testing.shit can happen.
http://www.mangosauce.com/nightlife/thai_police_piss_test_bangkok_nightclub.php
see also "thailand confidential" by jerry hopkins, published by tuttle publishing, 2005, isbn 079460093x, 9780794600938, 256 pages:
in the winter of 2001-2002, a new minister of the interior launched a campaign to create a "new social order" and dozens, maybe hundreds of entertainment venues (mainly bars) were raided by police looking for **** drinkers and administering [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-in-a-cup drug tests on the spot...
I was on Air Asia last night -- Kuala Lumpur to Medan, Indonesia. When I bought the ticket two weeks ago the departure was to be 19:50. Upon arrival at KLCC on another Air Asia flight, I found out by checking the internet the flight had been rescheduled to 22:00. The plane finally left at 23:15. Pretty typical for Air Asia.I would guess this was AA Indonesia, delays/canceling not unusual.
Never had an AA Malaysia delay, but maybe I've been lucky in that respect.
I have encountered some rude lads and air-headed (no pun intended) girls at check-in at KL LCCT. I once showed up four (4) minutes late for a check-in and some punk kid who was supposed to be the manager barked at me "flight closed!" They need to teach their hires to be professional, but maybe it's like McDonald's where they hire kids cheap.
Picked this up online today and thought may be worth a laugh or a read. SEAJ before you flame me - this just came out today and if its been reported or posted already get A-Pui to flog my butt :)
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=9&art_id=75378&sid=21794077&con_type=3&d_str=20081208&fc=1
enjoy! / W
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Monday, December 08, 2008
The go-go bars are empty and sex is on sale at half price as Bangkok's infamous red-light districts suffer from a blockade of the capital's airports.
"It's high season, but now it's like low season," said Nan, a scantily clad hostess at one deserted nightspot in the Thai capital's notorious Patpong area.
An old man plays guitar and sings along to a karaoke machine inside. Outside, beneath the pink neon, about 10 women in almost identical low-cut dresses try to drum up trade.
Although anti-government protesters have ended their siege of Bangkok's airports, the effect of Thailand's ongoing political chaos on the tourism industry is devastating.
Sex tourism is no exception. Patpong depends on foreigners to keep afloat, but as the 350,000 air travelers stranded by the airport closures rush to leave, replacements are not coming in.
"Now Thailand has a problem - no customers," said Lam, a man who works for Nan's bar, luring tourists in off the streets by posing as a friendly Thai offering unsolicited advice on good places to go.
Lam is hopeful the trade will return to Patpong, a lurid strip of live shows and sleazy nightlife.
"It is because of the airport, but now the airport is all clear," he said.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand is not so optimistic.
The group expects incoming travelers in 2009 to be half the 14.8 million the kingdom saw last year, with word of the protests causing tourists considering a trip to Thailand to book elsewhere.
At the
normally standing-room-only "ping- pong" shows, five or six women swarm each new arrival.
Some are following the example of Thailand's resorts and luxury hotels by offering discounted rates.
Prostitutes offer two hours of sexual services for 800 baht (HK$173) instead of the normal 1,500 to 2,000 baht that would cost.
The airport closures also hurt the capital's other entertainment options, such as the famous "ladyboy" cabaret shows.
"The shutdown of the airports seriously affected our business," said Nipon Boonmasuwaran, sales and marketing manager of the Calypso show, where flamboyantly dressed transvestites lip-sync and dance to famous tunes.
"Our guests have dropped 90 percent - we have less than 50 guests in our 350-seat theater," Nipon said.
The Calypso also canceled its second daily showing during the November 25 to December 3 chaos, when images of frustrated tourists trying to flee Thailand from a military airbase beamed around the world.
"We handed out thousands of free tickets for the stranded hotel guests in order to entertain them and hope that they would buy drinks - otherwise we will have no business," he said.
"Since reopening of the airports, business is trickling in but very slow," adding that guests normally came from Europe - especially the Netherlands and Belgium - and Asian countries such as South Korea, Japan and Singapore.
The blockade may have brought in some extra trade.
American tourists Lisa Richardson, 30, and Michael Latham, 29, said they would never have come to Patpong had they not been stranded in Bangkok.
"Being stuck for an extra week convinced us to spend time and money on things we wouldn't have normally - ping-pong shows for example," Latham said.
But he said that he feels for Thais whose livelihood is being hit.
"They're hurt so much worse than we are and it just hurts to see."
Thailand was until 2005 the world's leading destination for sex tourists, when its crown was taken by Brazil, according to Interpol.
Although prostitution is officially illegal in Thailand, estimates for the number of sex workers range from 80,000 to two million women and men.
At her Patpong bar, Nan says she hopes the tourists return soon, as she sends the money she earns back to her family near the Cambodian border.
"Maybe in 15 days, a month, it comes back," she said. AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Picked this up online today and thought may be worth a laugh or a read. SEAJ before you flame me - this just came out today and if its been reported or posted already get A-Pui to flog my butt :)
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=9&art_id=75378&sid=21794077&con_type=3&d_str=20081208&fc=1
enjoy! / W
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Monday, December 08, 2008
The go-go bars are empty and sex is on sale at half price as Bangkok's infamous red-light districts suffer from a blockade of the capital's airports.
"It's high season, but now it's like low season," said Nan, a scantily clad hostess at one deserted nightspot in the Thai capital's notorious Patpong area.
...Already posted here: 821912
Can someone please explain why we are allowed to post pictures of wide open cunts, pussies impaled on cocks, dildoes and cucumbers, cum shots, reports that detail intimate sex acts etc etc, yet we are not permitted to use a word that rhymes with itch?
Can someone please explain why we are allowed to post pictures of wide open cunts, pussies impaled on cocks, dildoes and cucumbers, cum shots, reports that detail intimate sex acts etc etc, yet we are not permitted to use a word that rhymes with itch?Very likely because this word that rhymes with itch is not a descriptive but a derogatory one.
Frankypanky
12-09-08, 02:29
Hello,
First I wish everyone, whom is in LOS at the moment, a very good time!
But I want to put down a general question to you in the "field"... ;D
A friend of mine in in Thailand now. He called me the question, about showing ID before using a PC in a Internetcafe! It was such a strange thing to him, after everything I taught him about Thailand, the women and how (much) to pay...(He was/is a very good student... :D )!
I told him to go away, as the are (to) many opportunities to hire a PC for Internet!
So the Question is...; Has anyone experienced something similar?!?
Is it a Scam (which I think it is) or why did that guy wanted his name and so on??
Thanks in advance and happy mongering!
First I wish everyone, whom is in LOS at the moment, a very good time!
I told him to go away, as the are (to) many opportunities to hire a PC for Internet!
So the Question is...; Has anyone experienced something similar?!?
Is it a Scam (which I think it is) or why did that guy wanted his name and so on??
.!
While I was there 2 weeks ago, SOME shops asked for ID, some did - but no proof of ID req'd either!
good advice to your friend- just keep movin' to the next shop.
M P Lurker
12-09-08, 03:00
Can someone please explain why we are allowed to post pictures of wide open cunts, pussies impaled on cocks, dildoes and cucumbers, cum shots, reports that detail intimate sex acts etc etc, yet we are not permitted to use a word that rhymes with itch?
Its a bit of a mystery to me too. But the idea seems to be not to use words that denigrate women and instead to show respect for them. So B****, H*, W****, etc. are frowned on.
But can say Fuck all you like. It just means having sex.
Now photos of pussies are supposed to be beautiful or erotic and should not be seen as denigrating women.
I definitely am a pretty pussy man.
So I don't like shots of ugly messy pussy.
Hello,
A friend of mine in in Thailand now. He called me the question, about showing ID before using a PC in a Internetcafe!Where in LOS was this?
Virgin Lover
12-09-08, 04:12
So the Question is...; Has anyone experienced something similar?!?Though I've never had to use an internet cafe in LOS, I found this to be common practice in many countries like India and even Italy. In the latter, the owner said it's the governments way of tracing terrorist-liike messages back to computer and the user.
Its a bit of a mystery to me too. But the idea seems to be not to use words that denigrate women and instead to show respect for them. .
I accept what you say, but fail to understand Jackson's logic
How showing a photo of a girl with her face plastered in cum is not denigrating I fail to see.
When I used the word B....h in my Khorat post today, it was intended to be denigrating, since the fucking c**t (allowable?) stole my glasses after a miserable punt.
Hello,
First I wish everyone, whom is in LOS at the moment, a very good time!
But I want to put down a general question to you in the "field"... ;D
A friend of mine in in Thailand now. He called me the question, about showing ID before using a PC in a Internetcafe! It was such a strange thing to him, after everything I taught him about Thailand, the women and how (much) to pay...(He was/is a very good student... :D )!
I told him to go away, as the are (to) many opportunities to hire a PC for Internet!
So the Question is...; Has anyone experienced something similar?!?
Is it a Scam (which I think it is) or why did that guy wanted his name and so on??
Thanks in advance and happy mongering!It is not a scam. It's because of a recent law (part of the 2007 Computer Crimes Act).
You can find more information for instance here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Internet-Law-t207559.html
Anyone heard of problems with kidnapping or roberies on this overnite train?
A frien of mine told me he had been warned it was a risk for Farangs.
Any help appreciated.
Cactus J
LittleBigMan
12-09-08, 23:58
I have been using Internet cafe and just anyplace that provides Internet whenever I needed it the past 9 years especially in Pattaya. I have never been asked to provide a I.D. to anyone! period! and never even after the stupid law was passed! They can't even monitor a driving ticket. Go somewhere else! Just smile and start using!
LBM
Frankypanky
12-10-08, 00:38
Where in LOS was this?
Currently, my friend is in Pattaya!
@Goyave, than you for explaining!
As I am never too old to learn something new (except listening to any women... :D )!
@LBM, That's what I learned my friend too..."Never forget to smile, especialy when you seems to get into a hassle/trouble".
I have been using Internet cafe and just anyplace that provides Internet whenever I needed it the past 9 years especially in Pattaya. I have never been asked to provide a I.D. to anyone! period! and never even after the stupid law was passed! They can't even monitor a driving ticket. Go somewhere else! Just smile and start using!
LBMSure. But it might happen more frequently alas from now on. This law took effect on July 18th 2007 but a grace period of one year was granted. That's probably why it's not much applied yet.
Though I've never had to use an internet cafe in LOS, I found this to be common practice in many countries like India and even Italy. In the latter, the owner said it's the governments way of tracing terrorist-liike messages back to computer and the user.
I confirm about Italy. One has even to sign a waiver to the intermediate provider. Even if this is an hotel where he stays and wishes to connect with his laptop. So called "anti-terrorism" law, for tracking purposes.
BKK Dreaming
12-10-08, 04:40
Anyone heard of problems with kidnapping or roberies on this overnite train?
A friend of mine told me he had been warned it was a risk for Farangs.
Any help appreciated.
Cactus J
I went to HatYai which is the same train last week , no problem ,
get a second class lower sleeper bunk,
I think its safer than the bus
Anyone heard of problems with kidnapping or roberies on this overnite train?
A frien of mine told me he had been warned it was a risk for Farangs.Kidnapping? This isn't Afghanistan. There used to be some robberies back in the 1970s but I haven't heard of one in at least 20 years. Each car is kept locked at night and has its own attendant/guard. If you want even more security than that, the train down the east coast also has armed soldiers on the Hatyai-Sungai Kolok stretch.
LittleBigMan
12-10-08, 21:56
Goyave,
I tell you right now, even if it was in affect for over 2 years I have no intention of showing my I.D. for something as stupid as this! I seriously doubt that it would be enforced! There are laws now like driving too fast or wearing a helmet but I don't see strict enforcement of those rules. How can they enforce laws or rules when the people who are paid to enforce them are breaking the rules themselves. I see daily in Pattaya, cops riding around without helmets etc...
Like in the U.S. in cities they have laws that you can't talk on cellphones while driving or that you can't blast your music too loud in the car! When home I see time after time cops talking on cell phone while on patrol in their cars and have seen cars driving with boom boxes so loud that your car is swinging from side to side from the volume. Laws on the books because someone has a hair up their ass but in the end no one is going to enforce them they got more important things on their hands.
Only time will tell but I'll put my money on that it won't!
LBM
Goyave,
I tell you right now, even if it was in affect for over 2 years I have no intention of showing my I.D. for something as stupid as this! I seriously doubt that it would be enforced!
Only time will tell but I'll put my money on that it won't!
LBMI don't know whether or not it will be strongly enforced, but I think that more and more Internet cafes will require that people show their ID in the near future. Probably not all but most of them sooner or later. As you say, only time will tell...
I've noticed several changes in the past. I don't know if it is required by law or just a recent internal policy, but now, most of (or maybe all) the local banks in my area require my passport when I want to exchange money, but it was not the case a few years ago in the same establishments. I know several places (for instance in Bangkok) where it is not the case though.
NicFrenchy
12-12-08, 03:18
for the first time in 2008, i got stunned yesterday! left speechless by something i saw on soi 4 near annies parking lot.
i was walking towards annies when i saw a cop (yes, a real one with gun and uniform, not your garden variety "rent a cop") strip from his uniform, shoving it in the trunk of his car, then putting on jeans, a tshirt and a moto-taxi orange jacket.
he closed the car, hopped on a honda click and went on his way.
was he on a "special undercover mission"? or just working 2 jobs? well, that taught me not to argue with moto-taxis anymore, you never know who these people really are.
NicFrenchy
12-12-08, 03:39
I broke up with 20 years old Gik yesterday.
We were having a good time shopping at Central World and planning on going to see a movie when she asked me (or "told" would fit better) to carry her handbag for her. I stopped and looked at her, stunned.
I nicely told her that I would feel weird carrying around a lady's handbag and that it would be better she keep it with her. She went nuts.
She told me that I have to treat her as a princess because she is my girlfriend and I have to do what she like because I love her.
All the while she was trying to explain herself I was thinking "What? is she for real?"
She said that all her ex-boyfriends do whatever she want and they always buy her many gifts and carry her bags and that a man should do this for his girlfriend and that I do not love her if I do not carry the bag and Bla Bla Bla...
What the Fuck? She never asked me for a penny and I know that she is very well off (Rich Family) but I was not going to let her play "little Princess".
I told her that I would never carry a lady's handbag, I would carry Shopping bags, yes, but I was not about to be the Docile Puppy that bows to all her desires. She said that Thai man would do it for their Love because it is how it has to be.
She would not stop telling me about how she should be treated and that I was lucky that she is my girlfriend because she is so pretty and not a bad girl and that she never ask me for money and, and and....
I told her that while I appreciated the fact that she is beautiful and sweet I am not ready to be an obedient Sheep and would do what I please when I please. You could see the confusion on her face! she was so certain that I would obey her, she did not know how to react. I saved her the hassle of losing face.
I told her I really liked her but this is not the kind of relationship I was expecting I told her that maybe I am not the right person for her and that she deserves someone that will treat her like the Princess she is.
How can I now escape? well, I could not. We carried on with our Plans (very quiet dinner) but skipped the movie, I told her I was tired and she said she was tired too. We went on our separate ways.
I later sent her an SMS saying "Maybe it not good to continue, you should get a better boyfriend" (ego stroking for her).
She did not reply.
Game Over.
Now I am left with no GF, no Gik and only a 53 years old lady ready for me to go fuck her whenever I am horny.
Looks like I will do P4P a lot more.
...I told her that while I appreciated the fact that she is beautiful and sweet I...
I think you were too nice to her. She may be beautiful, but she's certainly not sweet -- more like a dominatrix.
Apparently she didn't have a clue about all your other giks and MP sweethearts.
Originally Posted by NicFrenchy:
Looks like I will do P4P a lot more.[/QUOTE]
You are a lucky man to get out of it! Forget about her, there are lots more where she came from, in any case P4P may work out cheaper in the long term, and without too many headaches!
If I may offer my two cents worth, when she sms you to say 'sorry' (she will) I hope you will ignore her and move on. Life is too short have to deal with crap like that.
Go out and have fun! Leave the 53 year old lady alone -respect and all that... :D
NicFrenchy
12-12-08, 04:19
I think you were too nice to her.
Well, that has a lot to do with the fact that she knows where I live as I fucked her in my condo many times (Big mistake that I will no longer repeat).
Greed Is Good
12-12-08, 04:25
I broke up with 20 years old Gik yesterday.
We were having a good time shopping at Central World and planning on going to see a movie when she asked me (or "told" would fit better) to carry her handbag for her. I stopped and looked at her, stunned.
I nicely told her that I would feel weird carrying around a lady's handbag and that it would be better she keep it with her. She went nuts.
She told me that I have to treat her as a princess because she is my girlfriend and I have to do what she like because I love her.
All the while she was trying to explain herself I was thinking "What? is she for real?"
She said that all her ex-boyfriends do whatever she want and they always buy her many gifts and carry her bags and that a man should do this for his girlfriend and that I do not love her if I do not carry the bag and Bla Bla Bla...
What the Fuck? She never asked me for a penny and I know that she is very well off (Rich Family) but I was not going to let her play "little Princess".
I told her that I would never carry a lady's handbag, I would carry Shopping bags, yes, but I was not about to be the Docile Puppy that bows to all her desires. She said that Thai man would do it for their Love because it is how it has to be.
She would not stop telling me about how she should be treated and that I was lucky that she is my girlfriend because she is so pretty and not a bad girl and that she never ask me for money and, and and....
I told her that while I appreciated the fact that she is beautiful and sweet I am not ready to be an obedient Sheep and would do what I please when I please. You could see the confusion on her face! she was so certain that I would obey her, she did not know how to react. I saved her the hassle of losing face.
I told her I really liked her but this is not the kind of relationship I was expecting I told her that maybe I am not the right person for her and that she deserves someone that will treat her like the Princess she is.
How can I now escape? well, I could not. We carried on with our Plans (very quiet dinner) but skipped the movie, I told her I was tired and she said she was tired too. We went on our separate ways.
I later sent her an SMS saying "Maybe it not good to continue, you should get a better boyfriend" (ego stroking for her).
She did not reply.
Game Over.
Now I am left with no GF, no Gik and only a 53 years old lady ready for me to go fuck her whenever I am horny.
Looks like I will do P4P a lot more.
NF,
Sounds like she was talking to an old "gik" of mine :-)
Must have been 5-6 yrs ago. Been together for over a yr. Hot little 23 yr old
Getting along fine. One day out of the blue she is telling me how to spend my paycheck !! I mean down to the last Bhat. Don't do that, don't buy that. She thought, I guess, sincere advice.
Turn out it was the Mom and a friend of the Mom giving her "pearls of wisdom". So they thought ! If I listened to her, as they advised her, she would know she had me controled. I would go nowhere. After a blow out about it told her that she had better rethink how she told me about my spending habits.
Left her standing on the Soi with a dumbfounded expression on her face.
She called and called afterwards. But I never went back to her. P4P easier
Retired Army
12-12-08, 06:54
I broke up with 20 years old Gik yesterday.
Game Over.
Now I am left with no GF, no Gik and only a 53 years old lady ready for me to go fuck her whenever I am horny.
She's 20 years for Christ's sake. How old are you? I am sure you are old enough to know better.
She's 20 years for Christ's sake. How old are you? I am sure you are old enough to know better.
Yes, she's 20 years old. Does that mean he should be carrying her handbag while walking 5 steps behind her in order to prove his love?
There are lots of 20 year olds in Thailand who behave like adults and aren't spoiled little princess brats.
I think she's the perfect age for a gik or a short time fuck. They need an older man to teach them how to please, and they make excellent fuck toys. :)
I've found a very cute little 18 year old bar girl here in Pattaya who's become a regular and is just as good or better than the more mature ladies on my menu.
NicFrenchy
12-12-08, 09:25
Yes, she's 20 years old. Does that mean he should be carrying her handbag while walking 5 steps behind her in order to prove his love?
Well, she's learned her lesson (or did she?)
There are lots of 20 year olds in Thailand who behave like adults and aren't spoiled little princess brats. [/QUOTE]
Yep, she did sound like a little Princess Brat. Shame, she was tight and very willing horizontally
M P Lurker
12-12-08, 10:59
What the Fuck? She never asked me for a penny and I know that she is very well off (Rich Family) but I was not going to let her play "little Princess".
Back home (outside Thailand) I have met quite a few Thai girls from rich families, not as a GF, but only as aquaintences.
I often find them to be spoiled little brats not used to doing any real work and wanting to be waited on hand and foot. Many are not good GF material.
In Thailand, not everyone is considered equal.
Girls from a background of some hardship may turn out to have a better character (but not always).
Personally I would carry a girl's handbag while she was trying on clothes etc. but probably not the entire time.
My GF would have only asked me to carry it if it was really inconveniencing her.
But trantrums when not getting their own way is not a good sign.
Retired Army
12-12-08, 16:04
Yes, she's 20 years old. Does that mean he should be carrying her handbag while walking 5 steps behind her in order to prove his love?
That's not my point. I'm saying at his age there shouldn't be a discussion. He is either pussy whipped and says "yes dear" or, carry your own damn purse *****. Sounds like he has a "pair."
LittleBigMan
12-13-08, 00:38
NicFrenchy,
Don't worry about this. I been there and done that! She got to the point in the relationship to test your old ass! To see whether she got a man or a child like her ex-boyfriends who did carry her purse until they got tired of her bullshit and their friends ripping ripping them for having no balls. This is why she got so many ex's!
Women in general and especially in Thailand seem to want to prove who's has the stronger will. Prior to being marry I was with this Thai girl and when ever I saw her in BKK things were great never had a problem. Out of the blue one day we disagreed on something in front of her friends. Not to loose face she spoke but in half Thai and English to her friends right in front of me. I quickly figure it out from her statement basically that we will see who is stronger the will of a Thai women or a American Farang? It all came down to some culture bullshit whether I was going to bend by her making me feel uncomfortable in front of her friends. And if I did she would know I was wrapped around her finger! This is when you no longer are wearing the pants! After a few minutes I got up and told her girlfriends goodbye, paid the bill, gave them taxi money and I left.
Had a girlfriend in Hong Kong long ago. Did the same thing! told my cousin that she had me wrapped around her finger and I would do anything she wanted me to do. That I love f--king her tit's ( real 36's ). She played her games when I came to Hong Kong for a holiday one year and within the 2 weeks I was there she hardly answer the phone or came to see me at the hotel. Before leaving I f--ked her good and told her I loved her and wanted to marry her. By saying that I was able to hit her backside since she told me once if she gave it to me I would have to marry her! Left 2 days later and sent her a dear John letter and never saw her again. My cousin called and said I was the man!
It never cease to amazed me! Why people have to f--k with a good thing. Is it within our nature to have to be on top? Why do they have to test us just because we are nice guys! Would she had asked if she knew you were a asshole? But NicFrenchy you have to admit the f--king was good while it lasted!
Just another 2 cents from LBM
...She got to the point in the relationship to test your old ass!...
I think LBM has nailed it!
This is what young insecure girls do.
You have passed the 'test,' Nic.
And if the fucking is good like you say, maybe you should forgive her for this one indiscretion so you can enjoy more of the same without taking any more shit from the lady. :)
Thai Ydiver
12-13-08, 06:58
IMHO You are worrying too much. No need. I am not smoking but have been going to Thailand a lot. Never had or heard of on the spot testing.They used to spot check from time-to-time, but not so much these days and was more targeted towards Thai.
Don't do drugs and you are safe, also don't carry them either in the past the BiB have checked farangs (including me) around the Washington Square!
Many thanks guys for your help! It sounds totally safe, unless my wife catches me with a Thai lady. It was my friend who was worried, first trip to Thailand.
Cactus J
depending on his seniority, that guy probably makes between 8.000 and 15.000 bath per month in legit salary, which is as you are aware not much to raise a family on in bkk. university graduated civil servants start with 10.000bath nowadays.
i know a cop that works as a taxy and another that works for a caterer as waiter on private parties.
for the first time in 2008, i got stunned yesterday! left speechless by something i saw on soi 4 near annies parking lot.
i was walking towards annies when i saw a cop (yes, a real one with gun and uniform, not your garden variety "rent a cop") strip from his uniform, shoving it in the trunk of his car, then putting on jeans, a tshirt and a moto-taxi orange jacket.
he closed the car, hopped on a honda click and went on his way.
was he on a "special undercover mission"? or just working 2 jobs? well, that taught me not to argue with moto-taxis anymore, you never know who these people really are.
Member #3428
12-13-08, 11:38
Depending on his seniority, that guy probably makes between 8.000 and 15.000 bath per month in legit salary, which is as you are aware not much to raise a family on in BKK. University graduated civil servants start with 10.000bath nowadays.
And a 21 year old uneducated isan MP girl I know pays 12,000 baht a month in rent for her condo and still takes home over 60 K a month.... not including money from the sponsors she has...
Ain't BKK a wonderful place...
for the first time in 2008, i got stunned yesterday! left speechless by something i saw on soi 4 near annies parking lot.
i was walking towards annies when i saw a cop (yes, a real one with gun and uniform, not your garden variety "rent a cop") strip from his uniform, shoving it in the trunk of his car, then putting on jeans, a tshirt and a moto-taxi orange jacket.
he closed the car, hopped on a honda click and went on his way.
was he on a "special undercover mission"? or just working 2 jobs? well, that taught me not to argue with moto-taxis anymore, you never know who these people really are.i know a cop who sells curtains, eggs (yes! ) and several other things when he's not on duty. so, it seems that at least a few of them need to have more than one job. i guess that those don't have the opportunity to get much tea money or are simply. honest?
It sounds totally safe, unless my wife catches me with a Thai lady.Some years ago the northern train line (Bkk-CM) was well known for female attendants who were willing to join you after hours if you had a 1st class compartment. But these days you'll have to BYO . . . .
Retired Army
12-14-08, 16:16
Some years ago the northern train line (Bkk-CM) was well known for female attendants who were willing to join you after hours if you had a 1st class compartment. But these days you'll have to BYO . . . .
I've been taking the BKK-CM train for almost 40 years and have never seen nor heard of such activity. The First Class compartments all have male attendents. That's not to say you couldn't get laid on the train, but not by R of T employees.
I've been taking the BKK-CM train for almost 40 years and have never seen nor heard of such activity.Well now you've heard of it. It was the food & drink girls providing the service, and I knew one of them quite well -- a Payap student no less. This would have been back around the early 1980s.
An ISG Member reported (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822416&postcount=1772) enjoying a girl from a hair salon.
I have heard, that in some parts of Asia (Japan, Korea) hair salons are a major source of p4p pussy, but was not aware that this was also the case in LOS.
Can someone in the know please enlighten me on this subject and possibly recommend some suitable establishments?
I am due in BKK/LOS for 7 weeks, starting with the Chinese New Year and letting my hair grow till then....
Starchild2012
12-15-08, 20:54
I am due in BKK/LOS for 7 weeks, starting with the Chinese New Year and letting my hair grow till then....
you will let your hair grow just to get laid..never heard that before.... that was funny :)
There is a salon in soi 6 pattaya.. i saw in a youtube videos near roxy bar which i think offers this service..not sure about bkk
Good Luck
LittleBigMan
12-15-08, 23:26
Daddy San,
As you noted particularly in China, everyone knew if you wanted pussy you just go to a hair salon and pick them. If was just a front. But in LOS, some of the girls that work salon used to work in MP, gogo, or bars prior to working in hair salons. Those girls had some common sense to save their earning from working in the p4p scene and applied it to learning a trade. But the salon business isn't easy so many of them around. Many girls working, if they like you would go out with you after work for some extra money. In my opinion they are not like China where they are just fronts.
As noted in Pattaya, there are a few along Soi 6, and behind Soi 6 (6/1) that are somewhat of a front. But watch out for the ladyboys!
Good luck, LBM
Hi all,
A question not about Thailand/BKK at all, rather about Cambodia vs Philippines.
After 12 or so visits to Thailand, I've decided next time (next year) I will split my 10 days between LOS and one of the above places.
I am asking here cause I figure some of you guys may have done both. If I post in the Phil section, 90% will say the Phil, hands down, and ditto for the Cambodian post.
Already, I'm leaning towards Cambodia, for convenience sake - just a cheap Air Asia flight away so easy to tie into a trip to Bkk and also for the 'wild west' atmosphere I've been reading about - I've been to some pretty dodgy places - Colombia, Mexico and Central America, Jo'burg, Nairobi (Nairobbery) to name a few and it seems well cheap too.
It seems as though the general opinion though is that The Philippines have better looking woman and an atmosphere similiar to Thailand.
Dunno......anyone care to offer an opinion. Don't mean to tie up this forum about other countries so feel free to pm.....it will be much appreciated.
Cheers.
And a 21 year old uneducated isan MP girl I know pays 12,000 baht a month in rent for her condo and still takes home over 60 K a month.... not including money from the sponsors she has...
Ain't BKK a wonderful place...
and maybe she carries the same amount of men..on her back! lol
Cunning Stunt
12-16-08, 03:33
Hi all,
A question not about Thailand/BKK at all, rather about Cambodia vs Philippines.
After 12 or so visits to Thailand, I've decided next time (next year) I will split my 10 days between LOS and one of the above places.
I am asking here cause I figure some of you guys may have done both. If I post in the Phil section, 90% will say the Phil, hands down, and ditto for the Cambodian post.
Already, I'm leaning towards Cambodia, for convenience sake - just a cheap Air Asia flight away so easy to tie into a trip to Bkk and also for the 'wild west' atmosphere I've been reading about - I've been to some pretty dodgy places - Colombia, Mexico and Central America, Jo'burg, Nairobi (Nairobbery) to name a few and it seems well cheap too.
It seems as though the general opinion though is that The Philippines have better looking woman and an atmosphere similiar to Thailand.
Dunno......anyone care to offer an opinion. Don't mean to tie up this forum about other countries so feel free to pm.....it will be much appreciated.
Cheers.
Hi Sainter,
I live in The Philippines so you probably might consider me biased but I frequently travel throughout SE Asia (have just returned from a 7 week trip) and have considerable experience of Cambodia (and Thailand, of course). I can assure you that if I were to choose between the Philippines and Cambodia for purely mongering purposes, I would pick The Philippines any day. For why? Apart from considering the women more attractive, they speak English and tend to offer a much better overall GFE. You are also much more likely to find freebies and casual pick-ups (in malls etc) in The Philippines. Cambodian p4p, I found, is as professional and often as clinical as p4p in Thailand but without the quality or service. It is cheap though but you get what you pay for. Don't get me wrong, you can find stunners and good experiences in Martini's and similar establishments, but just not as often as you might in LA Cafe or in Angeles.
For non-mongering purposes, both countries can be hard going at times but, of course, The Philippines has nothing to match the culture of Cambodia and the glories of Angkor Wat. Hotels in Cambodia are very reasonably priced and fairly good quality and Cambodian food is much better than Filipino (which is probably the worst in SE Asia, but that is a personal opinion). In both countries you have to watch your step as there's a lot of street crime and similarly in both you will get a lot of hassle from beggars etc, but in Cambodia it is unrelenting.
In summary both countries have much to offer but I would say that The Philippines wins on points. Thailand IMHO, remains the best destination in SE Asia, for the complete package, for the discerning monger.
Enjoy your trip and take care, whichever option you go for. GH
Retired Army
12-16-08, 09:08
Hi all,
A question not about Thailand/BKK at all, rather about Cambodia vs Philippines.
After 12 or so visits to Thailand, I've decided next time (next year) I will split my 10 days between LOS and one of the above places.
I am asking here cause I figure some of you guys may have done both. If I post in the Phil section, 90% will say the Phil, hands down, and ditto for the Cambodian post.
Already, I'm leaning towards Cambodia, for convenience sake - just a cheap Air Asia flight away so easy to tie into a trip to Bkk and also for the 'wild west' atmosphere I've been reading about - I've been to some pretty dodgy places - Colombia, Mexico and Central America, Jo'burg, Nairobi (Nairobbery) to name a few and it seems well cheap too.
It seems as though the general opinion though is that The Philippines have better looking woman and an atmosphere similiar to Thailand.
Dunno......anyone care to offer an opinion. Don't mean to tie up this forum about other countries so feel free to pm.....it will be much appreciated.
Cheers.
Thailand is the better place to live, but I think the Philippines is the better place to party. Cambodia, cheap but not great to live, and not that great to party. Give it a few years. So it all depends on what's most important to you: creature comforts (Thailand), availability of women (Philippines) or price (cambodia).
Hi all,
A question not about Thailand/BKK at all, rather about Cambodia vs Philippines.
After 12 or so visits to Thailand, I've decided next time (next year) I will split my 10 days between LOS and one of the above places.
I am asking here cause I figure some of you guys may have done both. If I post in the Phil section, 90% will say the Phil, hands down, and ditto for the Cambodian post.
Already, I'm leaning towards Cambodia, for convenience sake - just a cheap Air Asia flight away so easy to tie into a trip to Bkk and also for the 'wild west' atmosphere I've been reading about - I've been to some pretty dodgy places - Colombia, Mexico and Central America, Jo'burg, Nairobi (Nairobbery) to name a few and it seems well cheap too.
It seems as though the general opinion though is that The Philippines have better looking woman and an atmosphere similiar to Thailand.
Dunno......anyone care to offer an opinion. Don't mean to tie up this forum about other countries so feel free to pm.....it will be much appreciated.
Cheers.
I will second Gamahucher advice.
Nevertheless for convenience purposes your first choice should be Cambodia.
If you finally decide to go to Philippines I suggest you choose Cebu Pacific Air to fly to Manila stay 3 days there then take a bus or taxi to Angeles City stay two nights there and fly back to BKK from there (Clark) or do the opposite.
http://www.cebupacificair.com/
Daddy San,
As you noted particularly in China, everyone knew if you wanted pussy you just go to a hair salon and pick them. If was just a front. But in LOS, some of the girls that work salon used to work in MP, gogo, or bars prior to working in hair salons.......
This is scary!
Whereas most hairdresser girls are qualified by nature to use their pussies to please men, by no means all pussies can be trusted to cut & style my hair!
I better stick to Tulip & Co (for pussy), but where do I get a decent hair cut?
I know this sounds weird but air asia is giving away 100,000 free tickets (minus taxes) to thailand as a part of a tourism promotion due to the unrest.
Unfortunately these are flights originating in asia! If only there were steals and deals from nyc. The lowest I see is $1000.
I am still working on thailand. I hope to be there next month but I have not gotten my act together yet. It takes awhile.
Ready set go....
Traveler1234
12-16-08, 20:53
Hi all,
A question not about Thailand/BKK at all, rather about Cambodia vs Philippines.
I'd give real SERIOUS consideration to jakarta....read their threads for more info, pm if you have any questions.
LittleBigMan
12-17-08, 00:56
Daddy San,
You can go to August Salon on Sukhumvit just before Soi 7, I think? The girls are great and so is the haircuts. Everytime I go there after the haircut or foot massage the girl always ask me where I go?
LBM
Retired Army
12-17-08, 09:46
I'd give real SERIOUS consideration to jakarta....read their threads for more info, pm if you have any questions.
I highly recommend Jakarta. Though Muslim it's English speaking and has a great monger scene.
Fast Eddie 48
12-18-08, 06:44
I've been taking the BKK-CM train for almost 40 years and have never seen nor heard of such activity. The First Class compartments all have male attendents. That's not to say you couldn't get laid on the train, but not by R of T employees.Retired army,
I think bentong is dreaming of getting service from the staff when he is sleeping in the 2nd class compartment, I ride this train a few time yes you are correct they are male attended.
Fast eddie 48
Daddy San,
You can go to August Salon on Sukhumvit just before Soi 7, I think? The girls are great and so is the haircuts. Everytime I go there after the haircut or foot massage the girl always ask me where I go?
LBM
Is that their way to ask if you want a fuck?
GoodEnough
12-18-08, 23:26
Hi Sainter,
In summary both countries have much to offer but I would say that The Philippines wins on points. Thailand IMHO, remains the best destination in SE Asia, for the complete package, for the discerning monger.
Enjoy your trip and take care, whichever option you go for. GH
I too live in the Philippines, but spent ten days in Cambodia earlier this year and I agree with everything said by GH. Culturally, Cambodia wins hands down in terms of interest, and the same is true for food, particularly since the Philippines probably has the worst cuisine in Asia. For women however, it's no contest. The Philippines is far superior.
Though good looking women are easy to find in both places, the whole scene is a lot less clinical and much more GFE than Cambodia, and of course almost all of the women here speak at least some English. The P4P scene is slightly more expensive here, but only slightly, and the difference in quality of service makes it all worth it.
GE
LittleBigMan
12-19-08, 00:27
Daddy San,
This is only my opinion but I believe that these girls working in the salons aren't willing to go out with just anyone and allow them to be f--k. And I'm talking about the single one's. You have your basic conversation and they try to feel you out like if you're good boyfriend material. It's like a line to let you know if you want to go out on a date. It's as they say up to you!
I myself have never said o.k. you want to go to dinner because I'm there only for 1/2 day and don't want to spend alot of time doing the romace number and end up with nothing. There's work to be done and if that's you thing like my friends I say go for it. Now this comes from one of my buddies who told me he took one out for dinner around 2 years ago to Fuji for dinner, drinking and she ended up back at his hotel for the night.
I have been tempted many times but too much of a challenge!
LBM
NicFrenchy
12-19-08, 02:40
Are we talking about Thai girls? I am confused now...
Maybe I should make a report on P4P in France... in the Thailand forum
I ride this train a few time yes you are correct they are male attended.Well you couldn't have ridden it very often if you didn't notice the women serving the food and drink from the dining car. Though I'll admit it's probably been a long time since they offered onboard tricks.
LittleBigMan
12-20-08, 00:31
NicFrenchy,
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... are you talking to me?
LBM, was talking about girls that work in salons in Thailand.
NicFrenchy
12-20-08, 01:56
NicFrenchy,
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... are you talking to me?
LBM, was talking about girls that work in salons in Thailand.
No, it was not you I was talking to
Retired Army
12-20-08, 02:36
Well you couldn't have ridden it very often if you didn't notice the women serving the food and drink from the dining car. Though I'll admit it's probably been a long time since they offered onboard tricks.
I ride the BKK-CM-BKK, BKK-Surin-BKK and BKK-Udon Thani-BKK trains several times a year and here is what I know: the girls get on at one stop, serve food, and then get off a few stops later to wait for the next train returning in the opposite direction. For the most part these are uneducated farm girls and not what one would consider Western fvcking material. That's not to say that some poor rice picker from Two Bug Fvck could be persuaded to do whatever to whomever for a few Baht. But it definately isn't the norm. The few times I have visited the few dining cars on Thai trains they have had an all male staff. Food is usually sold and served in the riding cars.
My wife and I are taking the BKK-Surin train tonight and the BKK-CM train next week for our annual visit up North to buy Burmese antiques. If anything has changed, or if I am wrong, I will gladly post a correction and appology to Betong.
That's not to say that some poor rice picker from Two Bug Fvck could be persuaded to do whatever to whomever for a few Baht.As I said, the girl I personally knew doing this was a uni student, working during her holidays. She was a part-time employee of the catering company the SRT used and perhaps still uses to staff the dining cars. By all accounts she was far from the only one on the game. The arrangements for these things were discreet, made in advance, and basically required you to have a 1st class compartment to yourself. That's the only reason I didn't try it myself -- it added up to a lot of money for a short-time.
I find it interesting that at least a couple of you guys obviously don't even want to believe such a thing could happen. Thailand in many ways was a much more free-wheeling place in the '70s and early '80s, and anyone who worked and traveled with male Thai colleagues then, as I did, would see all kinds of things like this. Since you clearly don't want to take my word for this, just ask a few oldtimers in CM. David U (I won't give his last name here but it's easily searchable), the guy who writes the N Thai motorcycle touring books, would be a good place to start.
Retired Army
12-20-08, 08:40
As I said, the girl I personally knew doing this was a uni student, working during her holidays. She was a part-time employee of the catering company the SRT used and perhaps still uses to staff the dining cars. By all accounts she was far from the only one on the game. The arrangements for these things were discreet, made in advance, and basically required you to have a 1st class compartment to yourself. That's the only reason I didn't try it myself -- it added up to a lot of money for a short-time.
I find it interesting that at least a couple of you guys obviously don't even want to believe such a thing could happen. Thailand in many ways was a much more free-wheeling place in the '70s and early '80s, and anyone who worked and traveled with male Thai colleagues then, as I did, would see all kinds of things like this. Since you clearly don't want to take my word for this, just ask a few oldtimers in CM. David U (I won't give his last name here but it's easily searchable), the guy who writes the N Thai motorcycle touring books, would be a good place to start.
Betong... I defer to your expertise. I've only been coming to Thailand since the Viet Nam war so I really don't know much about the country and obviously that doesn't qualify me as an old timer. I know some guys who have been here since the 1950's. Do they qualify, or do they have to live in CM and write books on motorcycle touring?
Now, there is some credibility to the statement that you had to have a first class compartment to yourself and everything was arranged in advance. Anything with enough advanced planning and money is possible. I could call an escort agency and tell them to send someone to my cabin when the train stops at whatever water buffalo hole in the middle of nowhere. You could pay off the attendent to look the other way as you sneak a girl into your cabin. But why bother? And as for shagging one of the girls from Two Bug Fvck who sells plates of Khao Pot and Pepsi Cola in little plastic bags, I don't think so. But, like I said, anything with enough advanced planning and money is possible.
However, your statement about Thailand being a much more free-wheeling society in the 1970's is totally incorrect. It was different country then and some areas, especially close to American Military Bases, were like the lawless old wild wild West where anything was tolerated. But the rest of the country wasn't like that at all and clung to the old traditional Thai values. My colleagues in the Thai military were appaled at the behaivor of the American GIs and the girls who serviced them. But given the state of the Thai economy in the 1970's and the amount of money being spent by the GIs they turned a blind eye and figured it was better to cash in than complain. The resistance to this kind of behaivor was one of the reasons the American military was kicked out in 1975 and we have no permanent bases in Thailand today.
Thailand today is a much more open free-wheeling society than in the 1970's. But what do I know? I don't live in CM anymore or write books on motorcycle touring.
I've only been coming to Thailand since the Viet Nam war so I really don't know much about the country and obviously that doesn't qualify me as an old timer.RA, I haven't questioned your knowledge of Thailand. I just suggested that if you wanted to hear more about the old train girls that you could ask some long-time CM residents -- they will know.
The problem here may be a difference in perspective. You've been "coming" here since the VN war. I've been living here since about then, working with Thais and operating most of the time in a Thai context. Yes, Thailand on the surface is of course much wilder than it was then, especially as seen by farang. But -- note that I said "in many ways", not all -- there was an easy-going quality to paid sex that's been largely lost. Girls routinely being offered when you checked into upcountry hotels, girls offered in restaurants, even cops openly coming around with girls, etc.
Again, I'm talking about from basically a middle-class Thai perspective. I have no idea what it was like near the bases or in most farang bars, because I was living among Thais and thiao-ing with Thai guys. The scene today is infinitely bigger and brasher and more commercial, and society in general is much more permissive, but it's lost some of the ease and casualness that made it so nice then. The fact that people find it hard to believe that the train thing could have ever happened suggests just how much things have changed.
Lord Farquard
12-20-08, 21:08
Daddy San,
You can go to August Salon on Sukhumvit just before Soi 7, I think? The girls are great and so is the haircuts. Everytime I go there after the haircut or foot massage the girl always ask me where I go?
LBM
I have gotten some of the best haircuts of my life here. The owner is very nice as well as the girls. I have been out to dinner with some of them many times, but have never been offered anything other than a haicut. So, get a good hair cut there and chase pussy elsewhere. I think that they may be making conversation in asking you where you go, but maybe not, maybe I am just not "hadsom man" like you.
LittleBigMan
12-20-08, 22:08
Lord Farquard,
If the owner is the same one, she is a real stunner in my book. Like I said I haven't partake in any of the girls at August salon too much work for me but when I'm getting my haircut I have a hard time sitting still because my eyes are constantly scanning to check out their ass and legs.
I don't know about handsome man because my buddy is really one ugly MF, but for some reason the girls dig him until they figure out that he's a big asshole. Maybe it being a American and Asian at the same time. When he takes them out he lets them pick where they want to eat and what they want to eat and does the Karaoke number and gets them feeling loose and happy with Samsome wiskey. I have seen him with real quiet women that say they don't drink and by the end of the night they are dirty dancing with him and he's grabbing them all over. Now whether he is bragging or not I'm not sure but from what I have seen it seems hard to believe he's going back to his Condo alone.
LBM
Now that we know nearly everything on the abouts and tactics to conquer the heart of the "old train girls", does anyone know if these lovely cuties grew up, got kids and their elder daughters of at least 20 yo are working on train as well?
Just for the sake of the records, so we can pick a motobike and then write all about it:)
Fun Couple
12-21-08, 00:53
Hi All,
My husband and I are travelling to Thailand early next year and we joined this site which was highly recommended because its current and full of good local knowledge. We will be there for approx. 14 days and want to split the trip in two, visiting and spending time at Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong area's then spending most of the trip in Pattaya.
What I would like to have is a few fellow travellers to correspond with who know those areas well and have recent knowledge. I am very specific on what I want to do, see, feel, taste and enjoy while I am there and I am hoping this site will give me knowledge enabling us to enjoy ourselves daily and not waste time 'looking' only to find what we want on the second last night.
I welcome private messages from other couples who have been and can relate to that style of visit.
So I welcome anyone to private message us, specifically guys who travel regularly to those areas and hopefully get to know a few of you on this site.
Cheers,
Ms.D.
NicFrenchy
12-21-08, 04:08
I always thought this girls was cute-------------too bad she is 16 :(
Are you for real? the girl is 16 and you plaster a face picture of her in an Adult forum? what do they put in your water?
Can a mod please remove this pic?
NicFrenchy
12-21-08, 04:11
I am very specific on what I want to do, see, feel, taste and enjoy while I am there and I am hoping this site will give me knowledge enabling us to enjoy ourselves daily and not waste time 'looking' only to find what we want on the second last night.
Hi,
First of all, as a regular member you can't use the Private message function.
Also, what exactly are you looking for? just advices and pointers or a full on baby sitter to take you around and show you the places?
Member #3428
12-21-08, 04:19
Hi,
First of all, as a regular member you can't use the Private message function.
Also, what exactly are you looking for? just advices and pointers or a full on baby sitter to take you around and show you the places?
I thought paid members could PM folks even if they are just regular members... If you pay up it doesn't make you a senior member does it? But as long as they paid the membership fee then they can use PM services.
Or so I thought.
EDIT: Confirmed... they can PM as paid members... even if regular members / new members... so obviously they have joined up and paid the fee.
Fun Couple
12-21-08, 04:29
Hi,
First of all, as a regular member you can't use the Private message function.
Also, what exactly are you looking for? just advices and pointers or a full on baby sitter to take you around and show you the places?Hi NicFrency,
I don't understand why you commented on being a Regular Member, we are paid members and can p/m. Apart from being a registered guest (free) we didn't realize there was any other sort of membership available, and thought that 'senior' membership was governed by the amount of time you are a member?
I didn't request a baby sitter to take us around, I was asking for advice on the places I had mentioned. I want to keep it simple, whats worth going to, whats not and from everything we have read on the net we now want to see and do certain things that I would rather discuss privately, thats why I requested to be contacted via the p/m option.
Thanks for your response.
Ms. D.
Lord Farquard
12-21-08, 04:35
Are you for real? the girl is 16 and you plaster a face picture of her in an Adult forum? what do they put in your water?
Can a mod please remove this pic?
she is 18 now
Now that we know nearly everything on the abouts and tactics to conquer the heart of the "old train girls" . . . Yeah, sorry to have gone on beating that horse -- just a historical curiosity ;-). The best way to join the mile-long club is still to book a 1st class compartment and just bring along a girlfriend, temporary or otherwise. Something romantic about that clickety-clack rhythm . . . .
Fun Couple
12-21-08, 22:49
Guys have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?
NicFrenchy
12-22-08, 01:49
I don't understand why you commented on being a Regular Member, we are paid members and can p/m. Apart from being a registered guest (free) we didn't realize there was any other sort of membership available, and thought that 'senior' membership was governed by the amount of time you are a member?
I did not realise you paid your membership. If you pay then you can do Everything but many people don't pay and do not have access to these function until they post a few reports.
You can PM me with Questions if you need however I am not a Bar but a Massage expert.
Good luck
NF
M P Lurker
12-22-08, 03:07
Hi NicFrency,
I don't understand why you commented on being a Regular Member, we are paid members and can p/m. Apart from being a registered guest (free) we didn't realize there was any other sort of membership available, and thought that 'senior' membership was governed by the amount of time you are a member?
I didn't request a baby sitter to take us around, I was asking for advice on the places I had mentioned. I want to keep it simple, whats worth going to, whats not and from everything we have read on the net we now want to see and do certain things that I would rather discuss privately, thats why I requested to be contacted via the p/m option.
Thanks for your response.
Ms. D.
Senior members are those above a certain number of posts I think, or may be time based. We can edit our posts and fix spelling.
Paid members can PM of course. Nic probably got his terminology mixed up.
PMs are not the best method of communicating unless you are special buddies, usually people you have met.
Normal posts are better, because when you have very specific questions, you don't know who will have the best knowledge nor will have the time to answer.
Very vague questions are generally not worthwhile in any context. You must state exactly what you are looking for.
Fun Couple
12-22-08, 05:03
Mick Licker and NF, I have to thank you both for your responses. I guess posting on the site and not private messaging is a better option for your quite correct Mick, anyone else could have the right advice I am seeking.
I guess being new to the site and being female (don't see many others on the site) is a little daunting to be honest and I feel a bit self conciously being so public with my 'wants'. Mongoring is clearly a truely male dominated arena and from my side of the fence its hard to know where 'I' stand.
Thats why I thought at first the p/m option would suit me more than other members for my own private descretion.
Being 'more specific' might I think make me sound like some desperate / wanton / ****, and I am non of those things, I am a normal healthy very sexually aware woman who has talked about the joys of Thailand with male friends for years and have always wanted to enjoy it, see it and experience it for myself. Now I have the opportunity to go and I don't want to waste 1 minutes wasting time.
So I thank all those who have p/m'd me and I really look forward to learning a great deal more.
I feel like I have 100's of questions some of which may seem very blonde to you all your familar travellers and roll your eyes at my text, one of my greatest fears is that I will get there and my other half will be fine, but for f/f interaction with my male partner might not be as easy to find as I think it is?
Cheers
M P Lurker
12-22-08, 06:40
I feel like I have 100's of questions some of which may seem very blonde to you all your familar travellers and roll your eyes at my text, one of my greatest fears is that I will get there and my other half will be fine, but for f/f interaction with my male partner might not be as easy to find as I think it is?
Cheers
Try not to be too shy as at least you are anonymous.
But I understand somewhat. I took the bi-sexual girl T (from the Caribbean) to Suzi Wong's for 3 nights straight before she was finally game to take a bi-girl away with her for the evening.
She chose a tom-boyish short of girl "Nu" with spiky hair that would not be my choice, but then I am a guy and go for a different look.
We sat at the bar at Livingstone's for a while as my friend was too shy to really make a move on the Thai girl.
T excused herself for a few minutes to go back to her room and freshen up, scared of any body odour (Thais are sensitive to this).
Eventually I was not sure if there was going to be any action as both girls seemed too shy to get started. I had to grab both of them by the neck and pull them together to making kissing each other unavoidable.
Finally the two got going after a few drinks to get relaxed and had a good night together. I really should have gone too to take some pictures of the lesbian action, but I didn't seeing that at least one of them might be too shy.
So the key to Thailand is you can't afford to be too shy to ask. Thais are a bit shy and sometimes use eupheisms for words.
"Boom boom" usually means sex.
I like to eat "oysters" (pussy).
Miss T would bring her boyfriend John back to Thailand next time and get Thai girls to share.
BtW, Normally the General Thread is for stuff not really realted to sex or for about using the forum.
Bangkok Thread is a better place for asking sex related questions for bangkok.
Some Forum memebrs are only interested in the Photo Gallery. On a lazy day, I might only look at Bangkok and also Bangkok Massage Parlours threads as thos are more likely to interest me.
The key to getting good answers is try to make the question interesting so that the answers would be interesting too. Boring question, and nobody can be bothered to answer other than being a smart arse.
When going to a bar in Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, there is no problem to ask the mamasan to point out which girls are really bi-sexuals. Some girls that are not true bi-sexuals will still go with a girl. They may prefer guys but still have licked out plenty of pussy before. And when receiving head, many girls don't really mind if its a guy or girl doing it as long as it feels good.
Mick Licker and NF, I have to thank you both for your responses. I guess posting on the site and not private messaging is a better option for your quite correct Mick, anyone else could have the right advice I am seeking.............................
I feel like I have 100's of questions some of which may seem very blonde to you all your familar travellers and roll your eyes at my text, one of my greatest fears is that I will get there and my other half will be fine, but for f/f interaction with my male partner might not be as easy to find as I think it is?
Cheers
If it is any help to you I know a TG for the past 7+ years. She does G on G action and will be quite accommodating to both of you. She is also quite good in speaking English so you will have no problem communicating. I have posted her pictures before. She is a little older (33) but then experience counts more. She is pretty good looking (IMHO).
PM me if you need contact details. (This for fun couple only. All others, please do not ask). Also, here some pictures re posted.
Being 'more specific' might I think make me sound like some desperate / wanton / ****, and I am non of those things, I am a normal healthy very sexually aware woman who has talked about the joys of Thailand with male friends for years and have always wanted to enjoy it, see it and experience it for myself. Now I have the opportunity to go and I don't want to waste 1 minutes wasting time.
So I thank all those who have p/m'd me and I really look forward to learning a great deal more.
I feel like I have 100's of questions some of which may seem very blonde to you all your familar travellers and roll your eyes at my text, one of my greatest fears is that I will get there and my other half will be fine, but for f/f interaction with my male partner might not be as easy to find as I think it is?
Cheers
In a way, we are all desperate / sex starved / whatever ****, so ask away and don't worry. The worst that can happen is you get flamed or ignored. I have a little input, but moved the discussion to the Bangkok thread.
cheers
fly
Fun Couple
12-23-08, 05:39
Ok I must be having a blonde moment or something because I actually have some free time to browse the photo gallery (no family around the peace and quiet, ahhhh).
I don't understand how it works, if I choose from the drop down bar to view by Newest or Forum Name, how can I choose to say look at pics from Pattaya for example (I can't? ). Do I wade through page after page after page to finally find the 'P' section?
Sorry I am bit frustrated (and I was so excited), the option goes from page 1 to 5 then last, what if I want page 578? . Do I keep clicking next, next, next, next, it will take me all year to get to page 578.
Ms. D.
M P Lurker
12-23-08, 05:56
In a way, we are all desperate / sex starved / whatever ****, so ask away and don't worry. The worst that can happen is you get flamed or ignored. I have a little input, but moved the discussion to the Bangkok thread.
cheers
fly
We wish all women were "wanton" or had a healthy sex appetite.
Alas I previously chose the wrong girls who did not as a wife, GF etc.
I wouldn't make this mistake again.
Retired Army
12-25-08, 04:32
Guys have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?
Extremely common occurance in BKK. There are girls who specialize in couples' fantansies. It all depends on the quality of the girl in question. Do you want someone from the street or a nice freelance girl from a classier place? It's all up to you. Personally I would prefer a girl from Spaso's that has a day job and freelances on the weekends.
Ok I must be having a blonde moment or something because I actually have some free time to browse the photo gallery (no family around the peace and quiet, ahhhh).
I don't understand how it works, if I choose from the drop down bar to view by Newest or Forum Name, how can I choose to say look at pics from Pattaya for example (I can't? ). Do I wade through page after page after page to finally find the 'P' section?
Sorry I am bit frustrated (and I was so excited), the option goes from page 1 to 5 then last, what if I want page 578? . Do I keep clicking next, next, next, next, it will take me all year to get to page 578.
Ms. D.Is it only me that smells a rat, or is it a troll?
she is 18 nowno willing to flame, but what age did she have qhen the picture posted here was taken
that's the main thing...
It is my understanding that what the Forum is not happy about is the post of pictures of girls below legal age.
Whether she is 18 now and the picture show a 16 yr does not fit the rule.
Is it only me that smells a rat, or is it a troll?
come on, do you think someone would pay a subscription to have fun of people here asking these questions?
We are all perverted here, but that would reach thehighest peak of perversion:))
Think positive!
Retired Army
12-26-08, 02:50
Is it only me that smells a rat, or is it a troll?
I'm suspious also. I suspect it's some guy posing as a woman and his wife knows nothing about his plan to get her drunk and then hook up with some other woman for a threesome.
Fun Couple
12-26-08, 04:36
Well you guys have surprised me, El Culion thinks I am a rat or a troll (what because I asked a question on how to view some pics? , like you don't view them! )and then Retired Army thinks I am a male posing as fem to take his wife to Thailand and get her drunk?
I am offended that your previous or past experiences have left both you sour and have passed it on to me. Very pathetic responses or inclinations indeed.
I have no way to prove to either of you that I am who I say I am. I stated very clearly in the beginning that I was the fem. Of a m/f couple and joined the site for guidance and to gather information not be slandered.
Cheers to you Bionicman for your words and to the many others who have shared their experiences and words of advice with us.
Maybe El Culion and Retired Army we might have the opportunity to have a beer together and in Thailand one day and then you will know I am who I say I am and you can both appologise to me in person!
Ms. D.
We are all perverted hereSpeak for yourself. I'm not perverted. Just a dirty old man ;)
ThaiLearner
12-26-08, 13:21
Is it only me that smells a rat, or is it a troll?
I don't I never understand why people are not given a chance????
Yes there are trolls, rats and wankers but how many are actually are on this board???
You could be one or anyone can even me
Yes there are trolls, rats and wankers but how many are actually are on this board??? You could be one or anyone can even me
Trolls on a sex site? Now there's a revelation. Maybe some of the trip reports are just made up? Like the Penthouse Forum stories of yor? Maybe 40yo+ men having multiple pops on a regular basis is just a fantasy in their own minds? Maybe traffic flows freely in Bangkok at rush hour?
I don't know, but I do think there is a good community on the Thailand site. Seems strange considering the topic, but the web is often a strange place. I really enjoyed a get together with a bunch of ISG guys at a Livingstone's Lodge pool party awhile back. All gentlemen and scholars (well, maybe most of them). :)
Now we just need OTH to come out of retirement to stir it up a bit more with his regional wisdom and local chagrin.
Trolls on a sex site? Now there's a revelation. Maybe some of the trip reports are just made up? Like the Penthouse Forum stories of yor? Maybe 40yo+ men having multiple pops on a regular basis is just a fantasy in their own minds? Maybe traffic flows freely in Bangkok at rush hour?
I don't know, but I do think there is a good community on the Thailand site. Seems strange considering the topic, but the web is often a strange place. I really enjoyed a get together with a bunch of ISG guys at a Livingstone's Lodge pool party awhile back. All gentlemen and scholars (well, maybe most of them). :)
Now we just need OTH to come out of retirement to stir it up a bit more with his regional wisdom and local chagrin. Fon Tok you way too funny dude. I get your report exactly. Even with Cialus multiples are pretty hard to do for a 40ish guy (who me???). Hard all night but multiples?
Maybe El Culion and Retired Army we might have the opportunity to have a beer together and in Thailand one day and then you will know I am who I say I am and you can both appologise to me in person!Ms. D.Offer accepted! I'll be in LOS from January 2 till March 1, with side trips to Phils, Vietnam, and Cambodia. Just PM me when you're there.
It's true that I have a suspicious mind, but I'm not too proud to apologize, and buy you a beer to make up, if need be :)
Terry Terrier
12-27-08, 00:49
Trolls on a sex site? Now there's a revelation. Maybe some of the trip reports are just made up? Like the Penthouse Forum stories of yor? Maybe 40yo+ men having multiple pops on a regular basis is just a fantasy in their own minds? Maybe traffic flows freely in Bangkok at rush hour?
I don't know, but I do think there is a good community on the Thailand site. Seems strange considering the topic, but the web is often a strange place. I really enjoyed a get together with a bunch of ISG guys at a Livingstone's Lodge pool party awhile back. All gentlemen and scholars (well, maybe most of them). :)
Now we just need OTH to come out of retirement to stir it up a bit more with his regional wisdom and local chagrin.
Y'know, Fon Tok, I'm starting to warm to you, though it's unlikely I'll ever darken LL's doorstep. Glad to see you calling for the return of OTH (an individual and independant voice in our odd little cyber-community. Chagrin? What on earth do you mean?
Retired Army
12-27-08, 03:45
Well you guys have surprised me, El Culion thinks I am a rat or a troll (what because I asked a question on how to view some pics? , like you don't view them! )and then Retired Army thinks I am a male posing as fem to take his wife to Thailand and get her drunk?
I am offended that your previous or past experiences have left both you sour and have passed it on to me. Very pathetic responses or inclinations indeed.
I have no way to prove to either of you that I am who I say I am. I stated very clearly in the beginning that I was the fem. Of a m/f couple and joined the site for guidance and to gather information not be slandered.
Cheers to you Bionicman for your words and to the many others who have shared their experiences and words of advice with us.
Maybe El Culion and Retired Army we might have the opportunity to have a beer together and in Thailand one day and then you will know I am who I say I am and you can both appologise to me in person!
Ms. D.
I don't give a rat's you-know-what if you are offended or not. Something just doesn't seem right about your posts and you wouldn't be the first to post sex ads without the wife's permission or knowledge. You may be genuine for all I know, and if you are then have a wonderful time fulfilling your quest in Thailand. I wish you the best of luck.
And, I have no desire to spend any time with any Western woman under any circumstances, beer or not. Once one gets to know the proper Thai woman that ship sails quickly. So don't hold you breath for an appolgy, or do, for all I care.
NicFrenchy
12-27-08, 04:31
Maybe El Culion and Retired Army we might have the opportunity to have a beer together and in Thailand one day and then you will know I am who I say I am and you can both appologise to me in person!
Ms. D.
So the people who have questionned your integrity get a free beer but the ones that help don't? how rewarding.
Anyhow, I don't drink.
So the people who have questionned your integrity get a free beer but the ones that help don't? how rewarding.
Anyhow, I don't drink.
And you can afford to buy your own beverages anyway. :)
Cunning Stunt
01-06-09, 05:51
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24877650-5006787,00.html
Narayan - Thai or Indian?
Nontheless, its sounds just the kind of thing a scorned Thai woman might do. A slight variation on the sharp knife and ice bag routine.
If you play around - make sure that you hide the lighter fuel ;). GH
M P Lurker
01-06-09, 06:34
I'm suspious also. I suspect it's some guy posing as a woman and his wife knows nothing about his plan to get her drunk and then hook up with some other woman for a threesome.
Its always wise to be skeptical about newby's posts, but don't let your imagination get too carried away without proper justification.
If people reveal themselves to be dip-sticks by what they say, fine, but we are supposed to believe in "innocent till proven guilty".
I am personally aquainted with a different "fun loving couple" (not the poster here) so I don't find what is being said to be at all unbelievable. I more amusing that she is a bit too shy to be very explicit which gels exactly with my previous experience.
Lemon Tree
01-08-09, 08:35
In a German Thai Forum I read that you can withdraw now maximum 5000 Baht at once
with foreign cash cards at the ATM cash machines. Finally that means, you have to pay 3 times more fee, if you want to withdraw the former amount of 20000 Baht.
The Thai Military Bank (TMB) did already fulfil this order.
Can anybody of you fellow mongers confirm that information?
Lemon Tree
I withdrew 10,000 THB from ATMs on multiple occasions last week. I have my own personal maximum at US$500, which is somewhere below 20,000 baht, and that is a limit worldwide. ~TTG
In a German Thai Forum I read that you can withdraw now maximum 5000 Baht at once
The Thai Military Bank (TMB) did already fulfil this order.
Can anybody of you fellow mongers confirm that information?
I have a local account at TMB and I can confirm that the withdrawal limit seems to be 5,000 baht. I have often found that ATMs refused to allow anything more than that amount, beginning in the last month or two.
As for my foreign account their seems to be no such limit, but I don't think I've used that card at a TMB.
Italy 1974
01-08-09, 11:55
It depends from the contract you have signed.
I have a bank account at Kasikorn Bankcan and my limit is 20.000 baht.
More than often I withdraw 10.000 baht, last time for New year's eve.
Italy 1974
I have a local account at TMB and I can confirm that the withdrawal limit seems to be 5,000 baht. I have often found that ATMs refused to allow anything more than that amount, beginning in the last month or two.
As for my foreign account their seems to be no such limit, but I don't think I've used that card at a TMB.
Retired Army
01-08-09, 17:06
In a German Thai Forum I read that you can withdraw now maximum 5000 Baht at once
with foreign cash cards at the ATM cash machines. Finally that means, you have to pay 3 times more fee, if you want to withdraw the former amount of 20000 Baht.
The Thai Military Bank (TMB) did already fulfil this order.
Can anybody of you fellow mongers confirm that information?
Lemon Tree
I took out 10,000 this morning at Bangkok Bank. No problem. Are you talking about a debit card or a credit card which might be different.
In a German Thai Forum I read that you can withdraw now maximum 5000 Baht at once
with foreign cash cards at the ATM cash machines. Finally that means, you have to pay 3 times more fee, if you want to withdraw the former amount of 20000 Baht.
The Thai Military Bank (TMB) did already fulfil this order.
Can anybody of you fellow mongers confirm that information?
Lemon Tree
It seems that it is becoming a worldwide trend.
About fifteen months ago I withdrew 1500 pesos from ATM's in Buenos Aires. Since then they lowered the limit to 300 pesos (100 usd) allowing three daily withdrawals meaning three times their charges.
I only take good old cash down there since then. Can't afford to pay 5 Euros for every 100 usd. Too costly.
It depends from the contract you have signed.
I have a bank account at Kasikorn Bankcan and my limit is 20.000 baht.
No. I used to withdraw 20,000. The limit has changed in the last couple of months.
Italy 1974
01-08-09, 19:24
No. I used to withdraw 20,000. The limit has changed in the last couple of months.I must insist.
My limit is now 20.000 baht.
I have been to Kasikorn Bank on January 2 to get a second ATM card and my limit was confirmed to that amount.
Unless you know my contract's details better than me.
Italy 1974
M P Lurker
01-08-09, 22:15
In a German Thai Forum I read that you can withdraw now maximum 5000 Baht at once
with foreign cash cards at the ATM cash machines. Finally that means, you have to pay 3 times more fee, if you want to withdraw the former amount of 20000 Baht.
The Thai Military Bank (TMB) did already fulfil this order.
Can anybody of you fellow mongers confirm that information?
Lemon Tree
With my Foreign cards, I have been allowed 20,000 on some card/account/machines and sometimes refused but always allowed at least 10,000.
May depend on account or on particular machine.
I am from Australia.
LittleBigMan
01-08-09, 22:36
I have been using ATM's for as long as I could remember. Talking about US dollars versus the Baht... I mainly use my Debit/Credit issue from my Credit Union and have a daily limit of 500 USD withdraw from checking account. I mainly use ATM's outside of 7/11 stores since they are open 24 hours and if for some reason the money doesn't come out or my card isn't return I have access to personel. But this hasn't ever happen to me. I want a machine that is well maintained!
The 2 banks I mostly used are Bangkok Bank, where I also have a account for Visa purposes. The ATM machine is I believe Blue color the other is yellow which I can't spell. One of these machines are usually outside a 7/11 store. There has been times when I have tried using a Thai Military Bank ATM and Siam Bank (purple) outside Foodland and wouldn't issue me more than 10,000 baht at a time. Throughout 2008, depending on the value of the Baht, I was able to take each time somewhere around 16,000-17,000 at one time. This would come out to around 488-492 USD, which is just under my limit.
On the ATM, machine I listed above... make sure you push the bottom " other " and then indicate the perference amount you want instead of a set amount.
LBM
Jackzonian
01-08-09, 23:34
If you have an account at Etrade, you can get a debit card that pulls money out of your cash balance, in effect, a debit card like the one from your bank. The difference?
Etrade doesn't charge you a fee for withdrawing money out of any ATM, domestic or foreign; but what's more, if the foreign bank charges a fee, ET will re-imburse you.
Now of course, there is no free lunch, so I imagine they nik you on the exchange rate in some way, but all in all, it's the best way I have found for carrying less cash, yet having free ATM world-wide. I don't know the limits on total cash withdrawn or number of times per day you can do it, but I'm sure it's reasonable, $200+ for sure. I'm happy with my ET account. Ameri_trde might do the same thing, don't know.
Jck
I recd. quite a few PMs regarding the G on G where they wanted their wives or GFs to take part in it.
Unless you know that your wife or GF is a genuine bi-sexual, please, remember that in the end the wife/GF may end up liking their new lifestyle and dump you.
I must insist.
My limit is now 20.000 baht.
I have been to Kasikorn Bank on January 2 to get a second ATM card and my limit was confirmed to that amount.
Unless you know my contract's details better than me.
Italy 1974
I was talking about the limit that I have encountered at Thai Military Bank. It used to be 20,000, and now it is 5,000. They didn't ask me about it, and I'm sure it is just TMB policy on all accounts. I made no claims about your account or bank.
If you have an account at Etrade, you can get a debit card that pulls money out of your cash balance, in effect, a debit card like the one from your bank. The difference?
E*TRADE is the best in my opinion with their bank and brokerage ATM cards. You may need to have total balances for all combine accounts totaling 50k+ for everything to be free.
I've never encountered a fee with foreign banks. Their daily limit is in order of $500+. Their exchange rate is nearly spot on the interbank rate you see with x-rates.com. From what I can tell they don't even earn a 0.25 percent fee. You can not get that rate even if you wire large amounts of cash.
If you must use a credit card then Capital-one is best. I think only a 1 percent exchange conversion fee you see in the conversion ratio.
If you do wire money from a US bank to a Thai bank always do it in USD and let the Thai bank do the conversion. Don't let the US bank to the conversion first they will screw you over big time.
Etrade doesn't charge you a fee for withdrawing money out of any ATM, domestic or foreign; but what's more, if the foreign bank charges a fee, ET will re-imburse you.
I was quite glad to read that, since I have both brokerage and bank accounts with E*Trade, so I wrote and asked about fees for using the checking account ATM card overseas. Here is the first reply:
"Thank you for your message regarding the international use of your VISA Debit Card for your E*TRADE Max-Rate Checking account. The ATM refunds will not apply and your daily ATM withdrawal limit is USD$1000.00. E*TRADE Bank does impose a charge equal to 1% of the transaction amount (including credits and reversals) for non-U.S. currency ATM transactions.
For more information on our fees schedule, please visit the following website:
https://us.etrade.com/e/t/estation/pricing?id=1206030000 "
I wrote back and asked if there are any E*Trade Bank accounts that would not charge the 1% fee and got the following reply:
"Thank you for your message regarding the international use of your VISA Debit Card for E*TRADE Bank accounts. Unfortunately, there are no E*TRADE accounts which will not impose the transaction fee. As stated in the previous message, the currency conversion rate is that determined by VISA and can be located at the VISA website located below:
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_services/consumer_ex_rates_us.jsp "
Curious to know what kind of E*Trade account you guys have that doesn't charge a fee/commission (and yes, I have far greater than a $50K balance in my accounts). E*Trade's fee is better than #@&!ing Citibank, which I think charges 3%, but it is still 1% at E so far as I can find.
To be clear about the 1% fee: it is standard for all foreign currency transactions on credit and debit cards; it is charged by both Visa and Mastercard (don't know about AmEx) and your financial institution cannot get around that. I don't think Mr Hoffy is looking at his statements closely enough. I find it really hard to believe that E*Trade would rebate this fee too.
Credit unions are good places for rebated ATM fees in exchange for high enough balances. I have access to rebate programs that begin at $10k total balance. Also, they often have credit and debit cards that will only charge the 1% fee for foreign transactions. As opposed to Chase, Citibank, etc., who charge 3%. Their foreign exchange rates have been competitive in addition to the 1% fee so their cards are a good deal. So I would suggest to check out the ones around where you live...
I find it really hard to believe that E*Trade would rebate this fee too. I have been extremely attentive to my statements to a point of recording the x-rates.com published exchange rate each and every day for a month and trying to figure out what is the deal with E*TRADE on their rate. It was almost like glitch that E*TRADE was unaware. An yes their exchange conversion fee is closer to zero than 1 percent. I would estimate that rate was closer to 0. 25 percent not 1 percent. Yes, 0. 25 percent and not 0. 5 percent.
I have probably done almost 1000 foreign exchange ATM transactions on both E*TRADE brokerage and bank ATM cards. In both Thailand, Europe and Brazil dealing with regular banks I have been very please. The only SCAM I've ever seen is run buy Citi bank in Brazil where they add a fee and convert to Dollars based on their rate so E*TRADE has no idea that the ATM withdrawal had anything to do with foreign exchange. I was happy to see that Citi-bank shareholder equity was wiped out even though I once owned a piece of the bank.
TO repeat. I have never been charged a fee in all my foreign exchange conversions with E#TRADE. If I use a BofA debit card I will be charged an ATM fee from both the ATM and BofA if I used in Europe. In domestic transactions with E*TRADE, I have been charged a fee but it get's rebated.
The issue is ATM cards and Debit Cards issued by various banks differ substantially in fee structures especially if you try to use the card in a foreign country. The only similarities is the all have magnetic strips and are made of plastic. From that point on they all are different even if they say both VISA or Mastercard.
Thunderdome
01-11-09, 20:32
My Thai friend in Bangkok told me last week that there has been a large amount of counterfeit Thai baht showing up. He said in the 100 and 500 baht notes. Both in Pattaya and BKK.
Also that some of this phoney paper has been dispensed out of ATM machines. Have any of you guys heard of this problem?
LittleBigMan
01-11-09, 21:05
Aside from E*Trade which I have no knowledge of I have heard something similar with Charles Schwab Brokerage with rebates.
I use to get 4 free international withdraws through my credit union then their debit/credit card got a Visa local attached to it.. Right after that the credit union started to charge me a 1% after each withdraw. Athough I have a Visa credit card just for emergency I used it once to purchase a airfare through the Internet on Eva Air. I got charged 3% for using the card oversea and another 1% for the conversion. That was the last time I used the card! I also had a Chase credit with a Master Card logo on it and since Eva Air gives you a 5% discount for using Master Card I decided last year to use this card and when my bill came I notice! no 3% or 1% and I get rewards points. I used it again in December 2008, bill came no 3% or 1%. Card is a fixed rate at 7.9% but I pay off the balance within the 30 days.
LBM
Member #3428
01-12-09, 01:10
My Thai friend in Bangkok told me last week that there has been a large amount of counterfeit Thai baht showing up. He said in the 100 and 500 baht notes. Both in Pattaya and BKK.
Also that some of this phoney paper has been dispensed out of ATM machines. Have any of you guys heard of this problem?
A lot more stores are scanning the notes before accepting them and I was told it was because more and more counterfeits were showing up. Take it for what that is worth.
Thunderdome
01-12-09, 04:19
A lot more stores are scanning the notes before accepting them and I was told it was because more and more counterfeits were showing up. Take it for what that is worth.What is our best bet for not getting stung this way? Use a debit card within the bank during regular hours to ensure notes are real? Not use the ATM?
Italy 1974
01-12-09, 15:35
I have been inspired by a recent thread on the Pattaya reports section comparing Rio de Janeiro with Pattaya and I decided to compare Bangkok with Sao Paulo.comparing the look and the "appeal":
I am from Rome, Italy so I am not easy to impress. Frankly neither Bangkor nor Sao Paulo are beatiful cities. Both are polluted and full of traffic. None of them has beaches. Still both of them offers a truli cosmopolitan environment that I really like. Winner: TIE
Comparing the safety:
Sao Paulo has a impressive record as one of the most dangerous cities in the world (about 100 murders per week) while I always felt very safe in Bangkok.
Winner: Bangkok
Comparing the "non-mongering" activities:
Bangkok offers less than Sao Paulo in terms of variety of movies, theatres, concerts and live music, not to talk about football.
Bangkok offers much more in terms of shopping.
Winner: it depends on your preferences but for me it's Sao Paulo.
Comparing the food
Both cities offers a very good choice of international and local cuisine.
Winner: again, it depends on your preferences but for me it's Bangkok.
Comparing the "non-professional" nightlife:
Sao Paulo offers a wide variety of clubs pubs and and night-clubs most of which are.of course- "non-pro" oriented.
Bangkok offers a mere average variety of "non-pro" venues.
As a foreigner.I can speak accettable Thai and Portuguese- I feel more at ease in a "normal" club in sao Paulo than in Bangkok.
About the music quality and the night-clubs level Sao Paulo beats Bangkok by 100-1.
Winner: Sao Paulo
Comparing prices:
The vast majority of things (including restaurants) are cheaper in Bangkok.
Winner: Bangkok
Comparing hotel:
Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit is 6000 Baht (130 Euro)per night
Intercontinental Sao Paulo is 700 Reais (220 Euro)per night
Winner: Bangkok
Comparing women:
Brazilian women are more attractive than thai women.
Frankly thai girls are very good as well but the Brazilians are much better.
Winner: Sao Paulo
Comparing sex:
Brazilian girls are oversexed. I must say that thai girls are very hot as well in the bed and I don't find a so big difference beetween the two as someone claims.
Still I prefer Brazilians.
Winner: Sao Paulo Comparing women prices:
In Bangkok long time is average 2000 Baht (45 Euro).
In Sao Paulo long time is average 400 Reais (150 Euro).
Winner: Bangkok.
Will I come back?
I must do it as my business takes me every month in each city!
Italy 1974
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Jackzonian
01-12-09, 18:01
Thanks for the info and research on E*Trade and fees.
The difference might be this: if you are using your E*Tr card like a credit card to make "purchases, " m/c. Visa percentage charges likely kick in. If you simply withdraw cash at a Thai bank* ATM, the fees are minimal and the best out there. (Again, I don't work for E*Tr, I just like their service.)
One other weird thing happened on my last trip: On their advice, I told E*Tr in advance about my travel plans so the automatic "fraud alerts" wouldn't kick in when their system sees the unusual overseas transaction. When I stopped in LA en route, my card wouldn't work at local vendors. A Mobile station, etc.
It seems they took the dates seriously and cut off use for everything but the country I said I was visiting. I checked and they said, yup, that's what we do.
*Final note: stay away from random ATM kiosks. Here AND abroad. There are scams galore with these units. Grabbing the magnetic info about your account. Next thing you know, some Nigerian or Romanian is tapping your account for all he can. Use a legit bank, despite possible fees.
Jck
M P Lurker
01-14-09, 10:08
If want good blow jobs you dick must be very clean. This obviously means shower beforehand is essential.
Now in the sticky climates of Bangkok, its not incredibly difficult to get a fungal or yeast infection, causing itchiness and bad taste/smell, due to wearing sticky jocks for too long or catching from others.
It turns out that washing with normal cake of soap is not a great idea as fungus/yeast thrives quite well in a slightly alkaline environment. Any alkaline soaps are not good on the genital region.
There are special washes that ladies use on the pussy to keep it perfect and similar ones for guys.
One is Lactacyd which is slightly acidic. I have used this for a few years now. Available in most pharmacies.
Some girls complained that its a little too strong to use many times per day, so there is now Lactacyd Extra Mild.
My favourite Oily girl recommends "Triple Fresh" for genital cleaning as being very mild and herbal. So I got some today in "D-Chain", the green shop just past Sukhumwit Soi 39.
P.S. On a tangent, the best mouthwashes have no alcohol, as alcohol dries up the mouth a bit spoiling natural saliva freshening mechanisms. Alcohol as an antiseptic, is not suited to mucous membrane sites.
NicFrenchy
01-14-09, 10:22
My favourite Oily girl recommends "Triple Fresh" as being very mild and herbal. So I got some today in "D-Chain", the green shop just past Sukhumwit Soi 39.
Wait a second... are you advising us to dip our johnsons in "Triple Fresh" mouthwash? :O
M P Lurker
01-14-09, 10:24
Wait a second... are you advising us to dip our johnsons in "Triple Fresh" mouthwash? :O
The "Triple Fresh" I have is not for your mouth. I reckon would taste very strange. :eek: Please read the instructions if you have some. ;)
P.S. On a tangent, the best mouthwashes have no alcohol, as alcohol dries up the mouth a bit spoiling natural saliva freshening mechanisms. Alcohol as an antiseptic, is not suited to mucous membrane sites.And there is the debate in Oz about whether mouthwashes with alcohol may cause cancer, or not.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24895211-421,00.html
Thunderdome
01-16-09, 09:48
sorry to rain on your parade fellow mongers. about the risks of contracting chlamydia from oral sex or bbbj from your'e lovely lady.
my buddy got this one last time from a girl at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
the symtoms are a burning sensation while [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112). possible discharge and inflammation at head of your unit.
lab tests-usually a [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test will be collected to confirm. a specimen scrape is another method.
chlamydia fortunately is quite easy to treat with anti-biotics in men. it can be more serious in women as it can remain dormant until it does real damage.
usual drugs-in the western world a weeks supply of doxycycline (twice daily)will eliminate this disease in men.
who needs this when we are on holiday and trying to maximize our fun?
my friend had to miss some great encounters waiting for this to disappear. it is quite contageous until completely gone.
i know its not as much fun, but i always use a condom ever since this happened.
just my 2 cents.
editor's suggestion: this is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the safe sex topic in the special interests section of the forum where it will benefit the forum members who are specifically looking for this type of information. thanks!
What is our best bet for not getting stung this way? Use a debit card within the bank during regular hours to ensure notes are real? Not use the ATM?
It is my recommendation that if you are going to use a debit or atm card,
go INSIDE the bank during normal business hours and ask the attendants to process your transaction over the counter.
I did this at the Kasikorn bank and was told there were no transaction fees on their side.
They require your passport for security and they will xerox it.
Too many stories about scammer atm's outside as well as hidden cameras and onlookers.
Good luck!
LittleBigMan
01-17-09, 01:30
ATM'S
A few years back there were reports about counterfeiting bills in ATM machines. The story I remember reading was that the cases were mostly related to independent ATM machines. Independent to me would be ATM machines that " are not run " and own by the larger banks like Bangkok Bank, Siam Commercial Bank, etc.. The ATM's I use mostly are inside places like shopping centers like Carrefour, Big C, Tesco and outside any 7/11 stores. In over 10 years I have never had a problem at these locations.
If you are taking out large sums of money from a bank I do suggest you go inside and do the transaction but depending on where you go and which bank it could be time consuming and of course you need to bring along your passport and to me it's not worth the trouble or inconvienance if you are going getting a few dollar baht like 16,000.
Even if they are big and established banks there is not assurance that the individuals working for these banks directly or indirectly ( contracted out ) are not replacing the bills prior to filling up the ATM machines. I believe this is and was the problem a few years ago. From my experience I have purchased land, car, motorcycle, etc... and never have I experience anyone taking the bills I give them and examining them and that would includes noodles stand to P4P. I have given tellers at Bangkok Bank, thousands of baht and never had them examine them in front of me. The banking system is different from a country like U.S. and they have their own internal problems. But in my opinion if you stick with the places I mentioned I don't think you need to worry much. Even so, you pretty much have to be a trained professional to detect a counterfeit unless it comes out like with the kings face on toilet paper.
LBM
M P Lurker
01-18-09, 06:11
Had to leave LOS today.
Sunday is good due to lack of traffic.
Left Livingstone's Lodge at 10:50.
Because no traffic, taxi could get to expressway in 15 mins and then very quick to the airport.
Was checked in and through Immigration by 11:40.
Flight at 13:05.
Late at night is good too, but on a normal day, need to allow a lot more time to get to the expressway, and probably airport will be more busy as well.
Had to leave LOS today ----cut----
Flight at 13:05.
Late at night is good too, but on a normal day, need to allow a lot more time to get to the expressway, and probably airport will be more busy as well.
Mick,
as I live on the other side of the BIG pond (Canada). My choices are much more limited for airlines.
If I fly star alliance, or JAL, I have a typical 8:05 or 8:30 departure - which translates into a 6:30am hotel departure from the Suk area. 30mins or less and 250B - cheap and definition of fast dpends on how crazy a driver I get!
Other flight options are Eva or Cathay, afternoon departures (nice, sleep in, probably another shag) but crazy traffic, busy airport and worse - arriving home around midnight - that just throws my body's schedule off too much!
Somewhere15
01-18-09, 20:05
Italy 1974,
I would like to have the same job.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28729720/
BANGKOK, Thailand - An Australian writer was sentenced Monday to three years in prison for insulting Thailand's royal family in his novel, a rare conviction of a foreigner amid a crackdown on people and Web sites deemed critical of the monarchy. Bangkok's Criminal Court sentenced Harry Nicolaides to six years behind bars but reduced the term because he had entered a guilty plea, the judge said.
Nicolaides, a 41-year-old from Melbourne, was charged with insulting Thailand's King Bhumibol Adulyadej and the crown prince in his 2005 book "Verisimilitude."Passages in the book "suggested that there was abuse of royal power," the presiding judge told the court. "I would like to apologize. This can't be real. It feels like a bad dream," a tearful Nicolaides told reporters before the verdict was announced. He said he had "unqualified respect for the king of Thailand" and had not intended to insult him. Thailand is a constitutional monarchy but has severe lese majeste laws, mandating a jail term of three to 15 years for "whoever defames, insults or threatens the king, the queen, the heir to the throne or the Regent."
Public discussion of the monarchy's role was once taboo in Thailand, but has become more common amid growing concern about the eventual successor to the 81-year-old king, the world's longest-serving monarch. Bhumibol has no major official role in politics but commands immense respect from most Thais and is credited as being the nation's unifying force in times of crisis.
Spate of complaints, prosecutions
Nicolaides' case comes amid a recent spate of lese majeste complaints and prosecutions, and increased censorship of Web sites allegedly critical of the Thai monarchy. Nicolaides was arrested Aug. 31 at Bangkok's international airport as he was about to board a flight home, apparently unaware of a March arrest warrant issued in connection with his novel, according to rights groups. He was indicted in November and denied bail.
Nicolaides lived in Thailand from 2003 to 2005 and taught in the northern Thai city of Chiang Rai. He has described his novel as a commentary on political and social life of contemporary Thailand. 'Unspeakable suffering'
"Tell my family I am very concerned," he told reporters. He said he endured "unspeakable suffering" during his pretrial detention but did not elaborate.
Reporters Without Borders has called on authorities to drop the charges against the Australian, saying "his novel never intended to threaten or defame the royal family." The severity of Thailand's lese majeste laws was highlighted last year when a Swiss man, apparently acting in a drunken frenzy, was found guilty and given a 10-year prison sentence for defacing images of the revered monarch. It was the first conviction of a foreigner for lese majeste in at least a decade. The man was pardoned by the king after serving about a month behind bars.
New Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said last week his government would try to ensure the law is not abused. But he said the monarchy must be protected because it has "immense benefits to the country as a stabilizing force."
Hi All,
I am actually an electromechanical site manager working in the middle east for the last 10 years, I am planning to move to thailand for my personal reason.
Is there any suggestions to get?
Thanks for your help
Member #3060
01-20-09, 03:57
Hi,
I will be in Thailand next month. I was hoping to take a tour up to see the Tiger Temple (what Pha Luang Ta Bua Yannasampanno) in the Kanchanaburi Province. Can anyone recommend a good tour group or guide that goes up there?
Thanks,
Marc
The Traveler
01-20-09, 04:52
I haven't attended the forum for quite some time. Been busy with more important things. So I don't know if it has already been mentioned that there has been in change in visa regulations effective since Nov. 25th, 2008
Citizens of 37 countries which do not need to apply for a visa may get 30 days on arrival if they enter the kingdom via an airport. At any other permanent border crossing (like Aran, Mae Sai etc.) you will only get 15 days.
So anybody who intends to make a "visa run" by leaving the country and returning immediately to avoid an overstay should keep in mind that only 15 days will be granted.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28729720/
New Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said last week his government would try to ensure the law is not abused. But he said the monarchy must be protected because it has "immense benefits to the country as a stabilizing force.". . . and 8 hours later the MSNBC link doesn't work anymore.
NicFrenchy
01-20-09, 07:40
Hi All,
I am actually an electromechanical site manager working in the middle east for the last 10 years, I am planning to move to thailand for my personal reason.
Is there any suggestions to get?
Thanks for your help
Sorry but your post is way too vague for someone to be able to help you. Be more specific as to what exactly it is you need advice on and the answers will come
Sorry but your post is way too vague for someone to be able to help you. Be more specific as to what exactly it is you need advice on and the answers will comeSorry, for my vague question.
What I was looking was some advices to find some work in Thailand, is there any special thing that I should know like if the market is congested, is it hard to find some good jobs there?
In facts I start to fade up to stay in the middle east, especially in suadi, here the work is full of stress and the life conditions are really poor, I was looking for some changes of life, also my GF is from Thailand and we have a kid together, so I was looking to go there to live in order to have some good life conditions for us.
Thanks
Hi Guys,
I am hoping someone out there can help me. I enjoy the benefits of V, kamagra and the other "Pharmaceutical" brands from time to time but I find it does not react to well with me (will spare the nasty details). Is there anyone that has had good results from any of the more "natural" products. Am very skeptical of all the stuff being peddled on the Internet, and would rather hear some results from the professionals
Jayman
Almost all hotels or travel agencies will have a tour available that goes to the tiger temple. You may need to go to other places as part of the tour.
Mackin
Hi Guys,
I am hoping someone out there can help me. I enjoy the benefits of V, kamagra and the other "Pharmaceutical" brands from time to time but I find it does not react to well with me (will spare the nasty details). Is there anyone that has had good results from any of the more "natural" products. Am very skeptical of all the stuff being peddled on the Internet, and would rather hear some results from the professionals
JaymanI don't seem to have any significant side effects from Viagra, Kamagra, Cialis or Levitra (other than a stuffy nose), and I've tried several of the herbal products available, over the counter, in your local drug store or via the Internet. Unfortunately I haven't found any of them to have any effect whatsoever. They make great claims, but don't seem to deliver, at least for me. I, too, would be interested to hear if anyone has had positive results from any of the so called "natural" non-prescription products.
The prescription products mentioned above do seem to work, to varying degrees. But the best results I've found are from (if you can get over the fear of the needle) injectables such as Caverject or Edex. Caverject seems to have been unavailable for the past 6 months, or so, although I've heard that it should be available again soon. I haven't tried Edex but I have tried Trimix, which is actually not a brand name but the term used to describe a mixture of three drugs (papaverine, phentolamine and prostaglandin) which can be prepared by a "compounding pharmacy." One source is Applied Pharmacy Services (www.appliedpharmacyrx.com). The Trimix available from APS is freeze dried and can be stored at room temperature for up to 6 months. The liquid form of Trimix, available from most other compounding pharmacies, must be kept refrigerated to last more than a few days.
Of course, these injectable products are a bit of a hassle to use. So I'm always on the lookout for better alternatives.
Great Guy
Retired Army
01-21-09, 01:24
Hi All,
I am actually an electromechanical site manager working in the middle east for the last 10 years, I am planning to move to thailand for my personal reason.
Is there any suggestions to get?
Thanks for your help
How are your English teaching skills. And do you have any cheap ties?
Retired Army
01-21-09, 01:27
Hi,
I will be in Thailand next month. I was hoping to take a tour up to see the Tiger Temple (what Pha Luang Ta Bua Yannasampanno) in the Kanchanaburi Province. Can anyone recommend a good tour group or guide that goes up there?
Thanks,
Marc
In my opinion the Tiger Temple is highly over rated and a rip-off tourist trap. And, its not really a temple. More like a wild life park with tame tigers on chains. Very expensive for nothing and a great disappointment.
Deal Seeker
01-21-09, 03:04
Get up early like 7am
Take a taxi or motocycle taxi to the Southern Bus Terminal
Pay your 109 THB or so for the bus ticket to get to Kanchanaburi
Travel 2 to 2.5 hours
Arrive at Kanchanaburi Bus Station, take #6 bus, and make sure the driver knows you want to go to the tiger temple
Arrive at a large sign with "Tiger Temple"
Walk approximately 1.5 kilometers, through some farmer's field to find the entrance to the tiger temple. Pay 500 THB "donation" to enter the Tiger Temple.
Read the large non liability sign saying that you agree by entering the temple not to hold the temple liable for any injuries sustained at the temple.
Wonder at the tigers that drink drugged milk out of a baby bottle.
Get pictures taken of yourself up close and personal with said drugged tigers.
Get offered the premium 1000 THB special photo op.
Get offered the extra, extra special "play with the baby tigers" that only 4 people at a time can attend (price undisclosed)
Hitchhike back to the bus station or find broken down structure that couldn't keep rain off of a mouse's head, and wait there for the bus back to the Kanchanaburi bus station.
Take bus from Kanachanaburi to Morchit station back in Bangkok.
Hi,
I will be in Thailand next month. I was hoping to take a tour up to see the Tiger Temple (what Pha Luang Ta Bua Yannasampanno) in the Kanchanaburi Province. Can anyone recommend a good tour group or guide that goes up there?
Thanks,
Marc
In my opinion the Tiger Temple is highly over rated and a rip-off tourist trap. And, its not really a temple. More like a wild life park with tame tigers on chains. Very expensive for nothing and a great disappointment.
I second that opinion. The "Tiger Temple" is a scam. I would pay to see one of those "tame" tigers to regain his true nature and rip that annoying head monk's head off.
Old Thai Hand
01-21-09, 16:05
Sorry, for my vague question.
What I was looking was some advices to find some work in Thailand, is there any special thing that I should know like if the market is congested, is it hard to find some good jobs there?
In facts I start to fade up to stay in the middle east, especially in suadi, here the work is full of stress and the life conditions are really poor, I was looking for some changes of life, also my GF is from Thailand and we have a kid together, so I was looking to go there to live in order to have some good life conditions for us.
Thanks
Judging from your post, it would appear that English is not your first language. So, English-teaching is probably out. They are making non-B visas and work permits harder to get, unless you know how to work the system or have connections. There is a growing anti-Farang sentiment, especially in the workplace. With the Thai economy on the verge of a far worse melt-down than '97, I'd say your chances of getting any meaningful work are nil.
While I agree that when you are in a foreign country, it is always wise to keep your mouth shut when you feel like criticizing members of the government, or royalty, though you could be sitting in any pub in England and call Prince Charles an "ass", and nobody would care, I find it quite repulsive that this Nicolaides fellow, poor chap finds himself in a Thai jail for 3 years, for simply saying in his book that he "suggested that there was abuse of royal power". Meanwhile, the instigators of the airport debacle, which have done immeasurable harm to the Thai economy, some of whom of course, are members of the government, continue to live their lavish lifestyle, waiting in the wings for another situation with which they disagree, so they may "peacefully" occupy some government building, or worse, closed down the airport. AGAIN
where are the priorities of the people in charge?
Not from Associated Press:
"In pharmacology, all drugs have two names, a trade name and generic name. For example, the trade name of Panadol also has a generic name of Paracetamol. Amoxil is also call Amoxicillin and Nurofen is also called Ibuprofen.
The FDA has been looking for a generic name for Viagra. After careful consideration by a team of government experts, it recently announced that it has settled on the generic name of Mycoxafloppin. Also considered were Mycoxafailin, Mydixadrupin, Mydixarizin, Dixafix, and of course, Ibepokin.
Pfizer Corp. announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form, and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of 'cocktails', 'highballs' and just a good old-fashioned 'stiff drink'. Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: MOUNT & DO.
Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky Boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them."
the Thai economy on the verge of a far worse melt-down than '97, l.I looked at the baht vs dollar back before 97 and then 98. BIG jump and in fact I see the baht to dollar was as low as 25 at one point. What happened in LOS that caused the ratio to jump in 98? Do you see it headed in the same direction, even though the U.S. and most of the world is in trouble too.
The trouble is many people in Thailand are from Europe/Australia.
These people have seen their countries be filled with immigrants, who demand all kinds of things, and cause massive changes to the "original society".
They therefore feel they also have the right to do as has been done to them.
If you want an amazing fact for today, in the UK the "race relations" board now deals with majority of complainst from. Well, "whites" now.
It is amazing how in these places that immigrants always demand what they want, and when they get it, and finally become the majority, they then ignore the minorities who they forced out.
This is life.
So in some respects I admire Thailand racism, and also their defence of the Royal Family. Good on them, stop these foreigners messing up your country.
However, the problem is of course when the tools of defence are used as political or grudge tools by politicians, army, police etc.
While I agree that when you are in a foreign country, it is always wise to keep your mouth shut when you feel like criticizing members of the government, or royalty, though you could be sitting in any pub in England and call Prince Charles an "ass", and nobody would care, I find it quite repulsive that this Nicolaides fellow, poor chap finds himself in a Thai jail for 3 years, for simply saying in his book that he "suggested that there was abuse of royal power". Meanwhile, the instigators of the airport debacle, which have done immeasurable harm to the Thai economy, some of whom of course, are members of the government, continue to live their lavish lifestyle, waiting in the wings for another situation with which they disagree, so they may "peacefully" occupy some government building, or worse, closed down the airport. AGAIN
where are the priorities of the people in charge?
NicFrenchy
01-23-09, 03:01
It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink,
Hahahahaha I laughed hard at that one :D
Can you imagine BArgirls pouring you that stiff drink without you knowing? 10mn later, she gets a sure Barfine and a sucker with a Boner who will agree to 3,000 st
Beware people... LOL
Cunning Stunt
01-23-09, 03:51
Not from Associated Press:
Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky Boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them."
Hahaha ... that is so..oo funny :D.
Alzheimers - the disease for those who like to meet new people every day.
Interesting reading :
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/01/23/politics/politics_30093973.php
Hahaha ... that is so..oo funny :D.
Alzheimers - the disease for those who like to meet new people every day.Yeah, a goldfish memory (3 seconds) helps not being bored, no matter how many rounds you do in your glass.
Lot as been said about Visa , how and where etc , I never had a problem at the airport when asking 5 or 6 weeks even w.o. return flight , they even don’t know if you have one or not , last time I stayed longer than 30d was a bit more than a year ago , this time there was no need to take risk or what ever and had a return flight booked .
Last week I took off from a European airport for a direct flight to BKK , just before the boarding lounge was the usual security and hand luggage check , handed over my boarding pass and passport , ground staff asked me , how long do you stay in TH. , I said 5 weeks , she was searching in the passport and asked me ,
She -where is your visa ?
Me – what visa ? I don’t have one ,
She- You need one in advance if you stay longer than 30D
Me- surprise , I never needed had one before even for longer than 30D , is this new
She – not really new but more enforced recently and you must have one before you enter TH
Me – So what to do now ?
She – You can ask at the airport in BKK
She – we must fill out some documents now ,
Me – for what , ? to apply a for Visa
She – No , a weaver for us because we bring you in w.o. out Visa and you gone stay longer than 30 day’s .(she checked my return flight already on the same airline )
The document
At immigration I showed this time my return ticket and asked for a 5 week stay, the lady told me only max 30d possible and she gave finally gave me only 28 day’s, I started friendly discussion but no avail, she told something like new law and told me that I have to go in BK immigration office for a extension etc. Asked, can I do it here at the airport, NO, extension can not longer. At airport, that was it. When walking from the arrival gate there is actually a VISA office just before passport control, several foreign people are waiting but nobody in that office (was early morning)
Will continue on this
John Euro
Exactly, why allow foreigners to amateurishly engage in a task the natives have always expertly performed at world championship level?
So in some respects I admire Thailand racism. Good on them, stop these foreigners messing up your country.
Easy2007, excuse me for asking, but are you English? I've always been amazed by how prevalent your sort of views are among the English I meet in Thailand, and how openly you all express them. It is shocking even for an American.
Interesting reading :
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/01/23/politics/politics_30093973.phpEasy2007,
Come on, man, you did not want to write in the politics thread any more :) ... oh, sorry, this is not the politics thread ... but this is about Thai politics, right?
Btw., do I remember correctly that I mentioned Thaksins possible financial problems in the politics thread, and you ruled it out as propaganda from his political enemies?
Giotto
(PS: we better move the discussion to the politics thread, before somebody kicks our arses :) ! )
Jet,
In short:
In 1997 a couple of things met on the same crossroads: The Dollar went up fast against all other currencies. Thai banks had many, what's now called, subprime loans. The banks themselves borrowed foreign money to do this, mainly Dollar.
When the subprime lenders couldn't pay back the loans or even the interest, the banks had to buy very expensive Dollars for which they had no money: Thai bank system crumbled. Then (not really 'then', these things kind of coincided) the Gov decided to float the Baht as opposed to pegging it to the Dollar and gone was the Baht...
In April 1997 I paid 8 guilder cents for one Baht, in December 1997 only 4... (Today 5.05)
Imagine, back then a ST in Soi 6 or Pattaya Land was B300 (Today 600-700).
Ox,
Yes, clearly a Chinese New Year is on the horizon: Thai-Chinese talk Chinese in public, and (this always amazes me most) the Thai-Chinese are cleaning up. Washing their cars, cleaning the pavement and shop signboards.
But don''t worry: Nothing will change in a hurry...
Chinese lucky color is red, but now red shirts aren't bought much by the Chinese. They don't want to be seen as chosing sides in the current political mess. I bet B10 that they would have worn yellow shirts if yellow was the lucky color.
The lodge was great last night. Not full but enough people to make it interesting. Went out to dinner with what I consider a stunner last night . Enjoyed some good food and music. Came back to the hotel and preceded to get down to business. A little of this and a little of that. Pretty soon the naked body was laying next to me and she wanted to fulfill her dreams . At least that is what she said. She quickly started bbbj and proceded to lick many parts. This got me going so i felt I should do the same for her. She quickly agreed and away we went. A complete evening to say the least. Will see her again but must sample some other possibilities.
Somehow my last post yesterday was wrong . Ziggy27 is not me.
Mackin
Lot as been said about Visa , how and where etc
[snip]
At immigration I showed this time my return ticket and asked for a 5 week stay, the lady told me only max 30d possible and she gave finally gave me only 28 day’s
[snip]
Asked, can I do it here at the airport, NO, extension can not longer. At airport, that was it.
[snip]
Will continue on this
John EuroThanks, John, and Please Do report back on the continuation of this story. Since the rules are different for travelers from different countries, it would help to know what country you are from (what country issued your passport).
Did you end up going someplace in BKK to try to get an extension? If so, where is that place located and what was your experience there?
I'm trying to understand the complex Visa rules and procedures in Thailand, so any additional comments and suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, again!
Great Guy
Thanks, John, and Please Do report back on the continuation of this story. Since the rules are different for travelers from different countries, it would help to know what country you are from (what country issued your passport).
Did you end up going someplace in BKK to try to get an extension? If so, where is that place located and what was your experience there?
I'm trying to understand the complex Visa rules and procedures in Thailand, so any additional comments and suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, again!
Great Guy
Being in a situation like yours and having read your post, I spoke at length to the immigration officer on my arrivall at BKK earlier this week.
He spoke excellent English, definitely understanding what I was asking.
He assured me, that upon reentry to Thailand from say Laos, I would be given the normal 30 day visa (again). He said, that it was the only one he could actually give.
Many years ago, in the UK, it was at the sole discretion of the immigration officer, how long a stay he allowed a "non-commonwealth" national....
I'll just risk it..
Had a layover in Seoul on my way back to th US. On 2nd floor there is a Transit hotel. Ask anyone and they will point you to it. Clean, quiet, cheap. Everything you need. About $8 per hour. I paid $48us for 6hrs. Best deal I have found while traveling. Hope I can find other airports with similar. What a pleasure to shower, sleep in a good bed, and repack before another 12 hour flight.
Nothing new at all.
If you do not have a visa, airline check in staff will ask to see your return ticket, they want you to have one, and will kick up a fuss if you have a one way ticket and no visa.
The rules on arrival for most Euro/US etc.. is that you get 4 weeks "tourist" entry on arrival and you must have a ticket out when you arrive that they can see.
If you wish to do a visa run after the 28 days expires, you will get 15 days additional is you re-enter Thailand by a land border, or another 28 days if you arrive via an airport.
The normal 90 days in 180 days applies for these visa free entries, as in you can stay a maximum of 90 days in Thailand on this kind of entry. If you go pass 90 days you will not be allowed back in, unless you have a valid visa.
The "visa on arrival" service you see prior to passport control is only for certain types of tourists who do not get the standard 28 days that most others get. They must apply for a visa at the airport, and normally get between 15 days and 28 days. This is not a visa service for all, it is only a visa service for certain nationalities who are not allowed to enter without a visa but who are allowed to apply on arrival.
Lot as been said about Visa , how and where etc , I never had a problem at the airport when asking 5 or 6 weeks even w.o. return flight , they even don’t know if you have one or not , last time I stayed longer than 30d was a bit more than a year ago , this time there was no need to take risk or what ever and had a return flight booked .
Last week I took off from a European airport for a direct flight to BKK , just before the boarding lounge was the usual security and hand luggage check , handed over my boarding pass and passport , ground staff asked me , how long do you stay in TH. , I said 5 weeks , she was searching in the passport and asked me ,
She -where is your visa ?
Me – what visa ? I don’t have one ,
She- You need one in advance if you stay longer than 30D
Me- surprise , I never needed had one before even for longer than 30D , is this new
She – not really new but more enforced recently and you must have one before you enter TH
Me – So what to do now ?
She – You can ask at the airport in BKK
She – we must fill out some documents now ,
Me – for what , ? to apply a for Visa
She – No , a weaver for us because we bring you in w.o. out Visa and you gone stay longer than 30 day’s .(she checked my return flight already on the same airline )
The document
At immigration I showed this time my return ticket and asked for a 5 week stay, the lady told me only max 30d possible and she gave finally gave me only 28 day’s, I started friendly discussion but no avail, she told something like new law and told me that I have to go in BK immigration office for a extension etc. Asked, can I do it here at the airport, NO, extension can not longer. At airport, that was it. When walking from the arrival gate there is actually a VISA office just before passport control, several foreign people are waiting but nobody in that office (was early morning)
Will continue on this
John Euro
Being in a situation like yours and having read your post, I spoke at length to the immigration officer on my arrivall at BKK earlier this week.
He spoke excellent English, definitely understanding what I was asking.
He assured me, that upon reentry to Thailand from say Laos, I would be given the normal 30 day visa (again). He said, that it was the only one he could actually give.
Many years ago, in the UK, it was at the sole discretion of the immigration officer, how long a stay he allowed a "non-commonwealth" national.
I'll just risk it..You would only get 30 days if you come back via air.
If you come back across the bridge to Nong Khai or another land border, you will get only 15 days.
Visa Exemption
With effect from 06 December 2008 any person eligible to enter Thailand under the “Visa Exemption Rule” will be granted a stay of maximum 30 days but only if entering the Kingdom via an international airport. Persons entering Thailand through a land border checkpoint from a neighboring country will be granted a maximum stay of just 15 days.
Passport holders of the 48 countries listed below are entitled to enter Thailand under the “Visa Exemption Rule” provided they meet all of the following criteria:-
a) Purpose of visit is strictly tourism.
b) Must be in possession of a confirmed flight ticket (e-ticket acceptable) to show they will be flying out of Thailand within 30 days or 15 days of entry, as appropriate.
Open tickets do not qualify. Travelling overland out of Thailand by train, bus, etc to Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia (including en route to Singapore), Myanmar
(Burma), etc is not accepted as proof of exiting Thailand.
You may be asked to show your flight ticket on entering Thailand. If you do not possess a flight ticket to show you will be exiting Thailand within 30 or 15 days of entry you are likely to be refused entry and may not even be allowed to check in for your flight to Thailand.
c) Having access to living expenses of 20,000 baht (approx £300) per person or 40,000 baht (approx £600) per family. It may be necessary to be able to prove this on entry.
List of countries which have special agreements with Thailand entitling their nationals to enter under the “Visa Exemption Rule” for a single stay of up to 30 or 15 days (as appropriate) provided they can satisfy the conditions above:-
1. Argentina 2. Australia 3. Austria 4. Bahrain 5. Belgium
6. Brazil 7. Brunei 8. Canada 9. Chile 10. Denmark
11. Finland 12. France 13. Germany 14.Greece 15. Hong Kong
16. Iceland 17. Indonesia 18. Ireland 19. Israel 20. Italy
21. Japan 22. Korea (ROK) 23. Kuwait 24. Laos 25. Luxembourg
26. Macau 27. Malaysia 28. Monaco 29. Mongolia 30. Netherlands
31. New Zealand 32. Norway 33 Oman 34. Peru 35. Philippines
36. Portugal 37. Qatar 38. Russia 39. Singapore 40. South Africa
41. Spain 42. Sweden 43. Switzerland 44. Turkey 45. United Arab Emirates
46. United Kingdom 47. United States 48. Vietnam
A visa fee may be levied on persons entering Thailand under the Visa Exemption Rule.
Visa On Arrival
Conditions applying to persons wishing to enter Thailand under the “Visa On Arrival Rule” are as follows:-
Passport holders of the following 19 countries only can enter Thailand under the “Visa On Arrival Rule” provided they meet all the criteria:-
1. Bhutan 2. China 3. Cyprus 4. Czech Republic
5. Estonia 6. Hungary 7. India 8. Kazakhstan
9. Latvia 10. Liechtenstein 11. Lithuania 12. Maldives
13. Mauritius 14. Poland 15. Saudi Arabia 16. Slovakia
17. Slovenia 18. Taiwan 19. Ukraine
Criteria:
a) Purpose of visit is strictly tourism.
b) Must be in possession of a confirmed flight ticket (e-ticket acceptable) to show they will be flying out of Thailand within 15 days of entry. Open tickets do not qualify. Travelling overland out of Thailand by train, bus, etc to Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar (Burma), etc is not accepted as proof of exiting Thailand.
You may be asked to show your flight ticket on entering Thailand. If you do not possess an acceptable flight ticket you may be refused entry.
c) Having access to living expenses of 20,000 baht (approx £300) per person or 40,000 baht (approx £600) per family. It may be necessary to be able to prove this on entry.
A fee is payable for this visa - 1,900 baht (approx £30) – on entry, subject to change without notice.
There is a growing trade in medical tourism in BKK and other places. I thought this ad from the front page of todays Bangkok Post was interesting.
I hope this does not break any rules Jackson
Member #3428
01-31-09, 07:56
There is a growing trade in medical tourism in BKK and other places. I thought this ad from the front page of todays Bangkok Post was interesting.
I hope this does not break any rules Jackson
BKK has had a large dental and medical tourism for a long time. From AU I know families that had their teeth done, they got a two week family vacation in Thailand and the dental work done for what it would cost them in AU for just one persons dental work.
My medical insurance sends me to MNL and in some cases to BKK for medical procedures since items can not be done where I live. It's cheaper and better services then in USA or other countries.
There's a lot of Visa info on the board lately.
Most important is that you will only get 15 days on arrival if you enter through a land border.
30 days are only given on arrival through international airports.
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