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I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
CheersReally?
Where exactly?
By the way, most of us are on here because we don't want a LTR.
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.Since you seem a little unsure of matters, I offer my professional help for the small sum of $2000 per month after a $100K retainer. But, seriously, my advice would be to tell no one of your financial status. No bragging or boasting as that little tight cute ass Ploy or her "nympho" sister Pla will figure out how to separate you from that money.
Tony Hoeprano
03-05-13, 03:45
Since you seem a little unsure of matters, I offer my professional help for the small sum of $2000 per month after a $100K retainer. But, seriously, my advice would be to tell no one of your financial status. No bragging or boasting as that little tight cute ass Ploy or her "nympho" sister Pla will figure out how to separate you from that money.Exactly good advice here, its none of anyone's business how much money you have or how much you make. In fact, I would take it a step further and tell them you're a struggling English teacher..
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
CheersTelling people on here how much money you have to sustain yourself is anonymous and represents no threat to you retaining your money, telling bar girls would not be wise advice. If any of these girls ask what you are doing in Thailand just say tourist. $ 5000 a month is 150, 000 baht. Your parameters of accommodation, food, venues and girls are too vague to comment on or it could run to several paragraphs. If you intend to spend the whole $200, 000 plus the $5, 000 that works out at 38, 000 baht per day. You could live well and have fun on 10, 000 baht a day, or you can live in a top class hotel, eat extravagant food, go to G-clubs and easily get through 60, 000 baht a day. The only advice I would venture is that if it was me I would rent an apartment as opposed to staying in a Hotel. As for "butterflying" or jumping from one girl to the next, you just pay the girls when your long time (LT) or short time (ST) session is finished and thank them.
I think you have made a very good choice in selecting Thailand to spend your time and regardless of your finer requirements when here you will have a whale of a time.
Regards,
BJ
Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.
FreebieFan
03-05-13, 09:08
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. .
CheersBoats? Presumably you don't mean the V8 engined things that plough up and down the Chao Praya all day long
Member #4387
03-05-13, 10:18
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
CheersWell if you don't eat dinner at The Dome, top in Lebua tower (will set you back 25000 for a decent meal) , and don't do high escorts every night you should be fine. I just arrived home from 3 weeks mongering in BKK and mnl and I have roughly spend 100000bht per week exl hotel. But I have a few regular girls as well so they cost me far more than normal p4p, he he. Spending approx like this makes me have freedom to do whatever I LIKE within reason. Otherwice probably smart not to tell Ploy and her friends how much money you have. Beeing to cheap is also not a good idea as this will limit your choices as well. I guess it is all about balance, he he.
Crazy4Thai
03-05-13, 15:35
Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.If you pass Soi 4 on Sukhumvit going towards Soi 2, there is a large pharmacy before you get to Bully's Pub. They stock the usual stuff but also 2 sizes of Astroglide.
Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.?
Geez. Walk into any pharmacy or 7-11.
If you know WTF you are doing, you won't need lube.
Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.KY seems being sold in 7-11, from what was written recently.
I will check this next week and report back if anybody has earlier news
http://www.sexomercadobcn.com/foro.php
I have left Barcelona. I know nobody cares. It is really a decent mongering city. Not a destination, but plenty of options. In case any of you go there, this site is a great reference for P4P.
Western787
03-05-13, 17:57
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
CheersI am assuming you don't want to touch 90% of that 200k. That would mean 50k total over 6 months or about $270 or 8000 baht per day, which would allow you to live in a very nice luxury studio outside of the central area for $400 or less per month, lets say in Ratchada which literally has a 1000 plus soapie girls within walking distance any day of the week, plus you could still be able to live a little bit of the Global Nanpa lifestyle by having sufficient funds to stay in Sukhumvit 4 to 5 star hotels a couple nights every week or two, or some excellent 3 stars around town. Plus more than enough dollars for G clubs 1 or 2 nights per week, as well as all the other more usual venues: oil message parlors, beer bars, go gos, nightclubs, discos and so forth, even a side trip to Phuket for the fresh air (the boats and great islands in fact are down there) , or anytime you want to Pattaya.
While 6 months leases are less common than one year, upfront payments might well fix that in some cases.
Remember $270 a day in Bangkok (factoring in Bangkok WGs low cost and large numbers) is like having perhaps $1000 to $1500 per day in NYC. Now "Righteous Dude", the (5 star, top suites) German national Global Nanpa guy, appears to have a budget of about 30, 000 baht per day, but by focusing on Bangkok with sidetrips to Phillipines and Indonesia to cite two examples, he's still getting 3 to 5 times the value he'd get in most major European or american cities.
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Geez. Walk into any pharmacy or 7-11.
If you know WTF you are doing, you won't need lube.I'm sure I wouldn't need it with your blown out asshole. Why don't you take your boring clown act down the road.
Thanks for the pointer Crazy4Thai.
Franciscass
03-06-13, 06:33
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
CheersHere some suggestions that will give you an above average experience.
Accommodation. Serviced apartment. Suggest Emporium Suites circa 150, 000 900, 000.
Food. 3,000 per day and you eat like a king even if you have company 549, 000.
Drink. Depends how fond you are of fine wine but again 3000 more than enough 549, 000.
Girls. Depends how healthy you are, assuming one a day 2000 to 5000 (say 3500) 640, 000.
Sundries. 2000 per day 366, 000.
Total Baht 3, 004, 000.
Dollars 100, 000.
Flights outside Bangkok are cheap and the above allowances are more than sufficient anywhere in Thailand. Places outside Bangkok worth visiting are Hua Hin, Chiangmai and Phuket plus adjoining islands Not too sure what you mean when you mention boats, charters are available but can be expensive.
The advice given on not flashing the cash is good advice. Bangkok is relatively safe but only take out with you what you intend spending. I envy your upcoming visit as I remember back on my first experience of Thailand and how amazing it was. Good luck.
Member #4387
03-06-13, 13:59
You only tell us about your cheap hookers. Lets hear more about the ones you really spend big baht on!Just do some research and you will find I have also put out some photos in the photo gallery og some in my regular fleet. I just tell that The Dome in Lebua is as high as I will go for food (piricewice) in any country. I don't even do this to show off as I know I will get to bed them. I just sth likes to go upscale also for my own sake of it.
FruitNinja
03-06-13, 14:26
Well if you don't eat dinner at The Dome, top in Lebua tower (will set you back 25000 for a decent meal) , and don't do high escorts every night you should be fine. I just arrived home from 3 weeks mongering in BKK and mnl and I have roughly spend 100000bht per week exl hotel. But I have a few regular girls as well so they cost me far more than normal p4p, he he. Spending approx like this makes me have freedom to do whatever I LIKE within reason. Otherwice probably smart not to tell Ploy and her friends how much money you have. Beeing to cheap is also not a good idea as this will limit your choices as well. I guess it is all about balance, he he.I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.
I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.Do you wan to tell me you came to Asia because you wanted to save? As a successful "business owner" (your DIA profile) you need to spend!
Member #4387
03-06-13, 16:15
I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.I only leave Europe bcs I want to not bcs I have to as I love asian pussy. And I don't go on a savingspree. Have not bought many ladydrinks in my life as I rarerly do go go and bf. But regular fleet cost me some money not bcs it has to but bcs we go shopping I e in Siam Paragorn and rather upscale dinners (I realy like that myself and would done it even if alone so why not throw in some good company as well). You can also manage to spend US400+ a day if you like. For freelancegirls met at discoes I buy 1 or 2 bottles and extras plus plus so freelancegirl and friends of her can just drink and have a blast. Not bcs I have to but bcs I want too (and often I find that rewarding for pussyaction later if mood and chemistry is good she gets good standing in her friends eyes. Important for thais). I don't allways do that but I like to treat those girls nice. But I guess you are a big boy so you can find out yourself if your intention are to spend like I do. It is a free world but I don't say I have more fun than others. This trip I spend more than I usualy do but who cares. I am not. I was just replying to ones dude post
Just do some research and you will find I have also put out some photos in the photo gallery og some in my regular fleet. I just tell that The Dome in Lebua is as high as I will go for food (piricewice) in any country. I don't even do this to show off as I know I will get to bed them. I just sth likes to go upscale also for my own sake of it.If you're going to venture that far from sewervit for dinner then I suggest going another 2 blocks and dine at either the Mandarin Oriental or even better the Peninsula. Both great but the Pen has a dinner buffet that is off the charts. I eat there every night as that's where I stay when I'm in BKK.
I never recommend it because it too far off the beaten path for most. I believe Lebua is better left for drinks as it's really only the atmosphere and view that excels.
I'm sure I wouldn't need it with your blown out asshole. Why don't you take your boring clown act down the road.As long as Bozo's like you with 20 posts in 6 1/2 years ask stupid ask questions about lube and ED meds., my clown act will continue.
If you're going to venture that far from sewervit for dinner then I suggest going another 2 blocks and dine at either the Mandarin Oriental or even better the Peninsula. Both great but the Pen has a dinner buffet that is off the charts. I eat there every night as that's where I stay when I'm in BKK.
I never recommend it because it too far off the beaten path for most. I believe Lebua is better left for drinks as it's really only the atmosphere and view that excels.Which restaurant at the Peninsula has the buffet and what is the cost for it? Thanks,
FruitNinja
03-06-13, 22:14
I only leave Europe bcs I want to not bcs I have to as I love asian pussy. And I don't go on a savingspree. Have not bought many ladydrinks in my life as I rarerly do go go and bf. But regular fleet cost me some money not bcs it has to but bcs we go shopping I e in Siam Paragorn and rather upscale dinners (I realy like that myself and would done it even if alone so why not throw in some good company as well). You can also manage to spend US400+ a day if you like. For freelancegirls met at discoes I buy 1 or 2 bottles and extras plus plus so freelancegirl and friends of her can just drink and have a blast. Not bcs I have to but bcs I want too (and often I find that rewarding for pussyaction later if mood and chemistry is good she gets good standing in her friends eyes. Important for thais). I don't allways do that but I like to treat those girls nice. But I guess you are a big boy so you can find out yourself if your intention are to spend like I do. It is a free world but I don't say I have more fun than others. This trip I spend more than I usualy do but who cares. I am not. I was just replying to ones dude postI can just see you're mother calling PUS, PUS. Cute story. I've read about men with cats. Can't say that I've ever met one.
You my friend don't rate very high in my believability scale. Like at about a whooping. 0- To be honest with you you sound like a little kid wanking in the basement with all your hehes and hahas and all your braggart stories of all the money you spent. An adult doesn't need to impress anyone with exactly how much he spent. An adult doesn't discount a nation of 300M based on meeting one cowboy in a bar.
They have a saying in the US: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Think about it, if you can't figure it out you can always ask one of those cowboys you consider rude. I'm sitting here wondering how many of those cowboys you would call rude to their face. It's easy to spew bigotry behind a keyboard.
you smelled [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) too. i smelt it a long time ago with this guy. you just know he misleading everyone when he see 9s and 10s at the beer garden in the morning. lol.
just not believable. he always ends up at the beer garden. lol.
its all good sir. just to newbies. this guy isn't represntative of what happens in thailand.hi harold, think you are not representative too lol. neither am i. don't ever recall skogis calling garden girls 9's or 10's, do not think that happened, and only recall him visiting the place once.
i find skogis posts interesting and believable. knowing how much i spend, no where near skogis level, its not hard seeing someone spend as much as he does. in some ways he is gullible and naive, but overall he is just a relatively young guy having a good time. how long his finances and the fun lasts, nobody knows, but while it does, i have no problems in enjoying reading about it. he does tell us when things go awry too, you know.
i hope skogis is not yet another scalp for the doom sayers. so far he has been able to ignore the non believers. just hit the ignore button if your one of those, lol.
there's the 444's, people like me, ones typically representative, and there is the skogies. variety for isg, no harm in that. reading your stuff 444, i am convinced to visit rainbow 4 on my next trip. you see, i read your postings too, lol.
Which restaurant at the Peninsula has the buffet and what is the cost for it? Thanks,River Cafe 1800 B.
Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
I have been to most of these. The views can be spectacular. I really liked the Red Sky at Centara.
Bring your wallet as some drinks can easily run 500B per person or more.
http://www.bangkok.com/top10-rooftop-bars.htm
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. in her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.
Member #4387
03-06-13, 23:05
I can just see you're mother calling PUS, PUS. Cute story. I've read about men with cats. Can't say that I've ever met one.
You my friend don't rate very high in my believability scale. Like at about a whooping. 0- To be honest with you you sound like a little kid wanking in the basement with all your hehes and hahas and all your braggart stories of all the money you spent. An adult doesn't need to impress anyone with exactly how much he spent. An adult doesn't discount a nation of 300M based on meeting one cowboy in a bar.
They have a saying in the US: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Think about it, if you can't figure it out you can always ask one of those cowboys you consider rude. I'm sitting here wondering how many of those cowboys you would call rude to their face. It's easy to spew bigotry behind a keyboard.Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.
Member #4387
03-06-13, 23:21
you smelled [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) too. i smelt it a long time ago with this guy. you just know he misleading everyone when he see 9s and 10s at the beer garden in the morning. lol.
just not believable. he always ends up at the beer garden. lol.
its all good sir. just to newbies. this guy isn't represntative of what happens in thailand.i believe some also question your credibility so i can live with that. but where did you find i allways end up at beergarden? 2 times in 2 weeks in bkk. and yes i have seen some beauties inside there but mostly girls will lie in the segment from 6-8 and that is the segment i go for as they mostly perform well.
and i have zero to none credibility if i start debating go go`s, nep, sc, bj bar, mp`s and other places were you have to barfine x from this last trip with dr bj (we did hit 2 go go`s in nep) so i leave that to others. what i know a bit about is freelancemarket (and its many aspects. streetwalkers, nightclubs, g-clubs and so on) and how to get a non pay for pussy (regular girl) met through social activities or through datingsites, some upscale wine and dining places, hotels and taxis. that is more than enough for me and is bangkok to me. i am not so interested in so much more. but i read with great interest other peoples fr`s from all over bangkok to be prepared if some day i would like to start explore my mongering. but so far so good.
Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.Why are so many people from Norway blonde?
FruitNinja
03-06-13, 23:48
Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.Yeah, maybe I'm a little outspoken. Definitely more than most. Glad you had a nice read of my contributions. We don't have to agree on anything. I have no skin in the game one way or another. There are two things in life that bother me. 1. Racism 2. Bullshit. I have my meter set on high for both. And you managed to peg the meter in both categories. I'm not the only one that's called you on your bigotry. If you want to talk about that why don't you take it to one of those supremacist sites. It really doesn't belong here because quite frankly nobody here logged in to read anyone's feelings on race. It's not appropriate.
I also have a keen sense of reading between the lines honed by many years of running businesses and having employees. You're full of it, and full of yourself.
So post reports of mongering, pictures of mongering, your experiences, but leave the bigotry to your other forums.
FruitNinja
03-06-13, 23:58
Why are so many people from Norway blonde?That was pretty funny LP. My favorite Blonde joke.
A plane is on its way to Miami when a blonde woman in economy class gets up and moves into an open seat in the first class section.
The flight attendant watches her do this, and politely informs the woman that she must sit in economy class because that's the type of ticket she paid for.
The blonde replies,"I'm blonde, I'm beautiful, I'm going to Miami and I'm staying right here."
After repeated attempts and no success at convincing the woman to move, the flight attendant goes into the cockpit and informs the pilot and co-piolet that there's a blonde bimbo sitting in first class who refuses to go back to her proper seat. The co-pilot goes back to the woman and explains why she needs to move, but once again the woman replies by saying,"I'm blonde, I'm beatiful, I'm going to Miami and I'm staying right here."
The co-pilot returns to the cockpit and suggests that perhaps they should have the arrival gate call the police and have the woman arrested when they land. The pilot says,"You say she's blonde? I'll handle this. I'm married to a blonde. I speak blonde." He goes back to the woman and whispers quietly in her ear, and she says,"Oh, I'm sorry," then quickly moves back to her seat in economy class.
The flight attendant and co-pilot are amazed and ask him what he said to get her to move back to economy without causing any fuss.
"I told her first class isn't going to Miami."
Member #4387
03-07-13, 00:05
Why are so many people from Norway blonde?I guess it is bcs we are scandinavians and from caucasoid race and in scandinavia 70% of population have blonde hair and blue eyes. I guess you don't want to hear the serious answer to your question. As the serious reason is about whos genetics survives. The rest you can easily google.
Today, since I probably have stepped on some american toes (I have no clue where you are from sir) I guess many of the angry ones would say we are blonde bcs we are stupid. We use this frase (blonde and stupid) within scandinavia mostly directed towards girls (as in they beeing more easy and fun to be with as they are blonde and stupid). But can easily go for guys also I believe.
But as FruitNinja have posted while I wrote this answer. We leave it at that atleast I do. And we take it back to what this should be all about - pussy, pussy and FR's..
Crazy4Thai
03-07-13, 01:08
How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.
Interesting article from an expat view but very relatable.
http://aboomerabroad.com/2012/05/25/bangkoks-grade-expat-mecca
Paul Kausch
03-07-13, 01:44
Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
I have been to most of these. The views can be spectacular. I really liked the Red Sky at Centara.
Bring your wallet as some drinks can easily run 500B per person or more.
http://www.bangkok.com/top10-rooftop-bars.htm
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. In her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.Took one of the Bangkok old girls to Breeze at Lebua. She loved it and fit right in. Asked Goldie's help in selecting the girl. Food was good; not worth the price; but you're paying for the view.
As long as Bozo's like you with 20 posts in 6 1/2 years ask stupid ask questions about lube and ED meds., my clown act will continue.LOL. We both know your clown act will continue regardless of Bozos, twenty some posts in 4 months and over 2, 000 posts in Argentina. Why? Because you're a clown. I know, you can't help it. In fact, at times you're pretty funny, at other times just a negative asswipe. Your mission? Enhancing the former and eliminating the latter. Choke dee!
Tony Hoeprano
03-07-13, 07:57
Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. In her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.Oh man. I was at a fine eating establishment with a romantic ambience, and there was an older fella, well dressed and you could tell he was made of money, looked almost like Hugh Hefner with his chiseled jaw. And there he was with a simple Issarn girl with a boob job, she looked out of sorts and uncomfortable eating in such a place. To each his own though, maybe the girl gave great head and it was worth the fine meal LOL
Tony Hoeprano
03-07-13, 08:09
How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.
How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.Exactly. And then he calls anti Americans racist.
FruitNinja
03-07-13, 12:01
It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.I didn't even see the Lambo or bored CEO reference. If I had I would have had to get a new BS meter.
FruitNinja
03-07-13, 12:31
I might be outspoken. But I don't have a problem calling it like I see it. I think Tony understands what I'm saying as far as keeping it real here. People come here to learn. If we don't police our own pretty soon this will become something of Penthouse Letters To The Editor. Pure fiction. I had a great time in BKK with the help of some great FRs I read here. Most of the stuff was right on so I had a good reference point of what I should expect.
If we just sit back and let guys have a field day with their imagination and never call them on it this place will be useless. I'll be back in BKK so I like to read and keep track of whats going on. Reading a guys reports and the having him say that he spent on average $500 USD a day is just BS and most of the regulars here know it is. We don't want the newbie to think that's what he needs. That's not a realistic view of BKK or Manila.
And CEOs and Lambos? Next thing you know we'll have guys telling us they were partying with the Thai Royal Family. 90% of what we read here is pretty much spot on. There's the 10% that have a need to brag and tell everyone how great they are. Low self esteem will do that. Let's not have that become the norm.
Member #4387
03-07-13, 13:16
It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.Since you first refering to my postings you well might get it right as someones blodpreassure obviously is raising above what is healthy inside here. Where do I speak of Lamborgini (never sat down in a Lambo) and airport pickups? The CEO type of girl seemingly working in a hi so company in Silom proved to be a golddigger, which I also admit after finding to many holes in her story and yes she drove me home in a Range Rover (orange) and lived in a big apartment above Emporium. Probably lived there as a part of an agreement with some businessman or sth. And this was a girl met in RCA area...
At Climax I have met many many girls but nothing hi so about them (exp once in a while a beauty) and only time I gave someone money (exp from additional taxicompensation / reward) is from one girl beeing pregnant and one girl getting some foodstallbusiness going.
Wether people like my picks of girls or not I can not do anything about. A 9 girl for me can be a 10 or a 7 for someone else. That is life. My regular fleet met from normal mechanisms and through dating sites (non pay for pussy girls) is what cost the most.
But I agree that you don't need much money to monger in LOS. You can have as much fun as I have for far less (so newbies don't think about that) and probably even more fun than I have too. You can even go on a strickt budget no problem and up to the individual mongerer to decide what is right for him. And no problem people "policing" the forum, that is much needed sometimes and I also write some provocative stuffs at times (but then it is the individual reciever thinking it is provocative and not the general mass). But atleast get it right when attacking, ok?
FruitNinja
03-07-13, 14:26
It seems you don't understand the meaning of racist. It means discriminating a race, which is something one is born into without choice. Opposed to that I find it totally legitimate to be anti a way of thinking or a mainstream. American and skin colour doesn't go together either, does it? The problem that I have with the US (probably the government, but that is elected by the majority unless judges get involved) is that they believe to have the only wisdom and truth.Your problem with the "US." And I am ok with you having such issues but let's be honest about it. Don't bring up this silly notion about a blonde joke. I have about as much to do about my government as you do yours. The simple fact is that most are run by special interests and we could discuss that to the end of time. What I do reject is the statement that all Americans are assholes because a guy meets one in a bar in a far off country where the main purpose is obtaining pussy. That's not a good cross section of the country by any means. The world is all about the Bush era America. That's less than 50% of America. That's an America I do not know. The America I know has tickets to the symphony, has been to the Bolshoi, Louvre, Hermitage, MoMa, Guggenheim, has read War and Peace, knows, art, culture, history. So what I resent is being lumped into the category of "cowboy" or "batman."
I'm European born US raised and live the America Dream as they say. I'm not happy about all that has happened in this country over the last 10 years. But don't discount what this country has done for the world and Europe in general. Norway and most of Europe would be flying a different flag if it weren't for the blood shed by Americans. We so easily forget that. The prosperity that Japan, Korea, and now China know is owed to the American consumer. Add most of Europe to that equation. A BMW or Mecedes without America is not much. Toyota wthout America could not have been the company it is today employing the people they employ.
Yes, we've done some stupid shit at the behest of stupid politicians but you show me a country / culture that hasn't. Do an honest appraisal of things before you pass opinion on a nation of 300M individuals. A country comprised of all nationalities.
The picture changes when you use a bigger canvas.
From one who lived in Thailand (Chiangmai) for over a year.
Those young / younger Thai chaps have all the fun (or not!)
Cheers!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/08/us-thailand-pregnancy-idUSBRE92705P20130308
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ThailandBound
03-11-13, 03:10
Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.
I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
* Firstly, if any brits, yanks, ozzies, canadians are over there when I am maybe we could meet up for a beer? I'm not looking for a travel partner exactly, just someone who perhaps is in the same boat as me. The majority of my trip will be solo, but it may be cool to meet up for a day or 2.
* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?
* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?
* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?
I was going to add some questions about girls but I'll save that for another post. Plenty of time.
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
David
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03-11-13, 07:53
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Scorchin1470
03-11-13, 08:04
Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (?
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
DavidMuch of what you ask is covered by Lonely Planet.
Wolvenvacht
03-11-13, 08:12
Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.That is a tall order. Remember "This is Thailand" where planning is at best not better than a pious intention.
I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
(...)
* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?Unless you are staying in a purely (western) family oriented hotel or resort (and even then) , most hotels are very relaxed about this. I never had any problems in that respect and I traveled also off the beaten path.
* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?Never had any problems. I usually take a few cards, but only use one and keep the other as a backup.
* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or --if all else fails-- a tuk-tuk.
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ThailandBound
03-11-13, 09:26
That is a tall order. Remember "This is Thailand" where planning is at best not better than a pious intention.
Unless you are staying in a purely (western) family oriented hotel or resort (and even then) , most hotels are very relaxed about this. I never had any problems in that respect and I traveled also off the beaten path.
Never had any problems. I usually take a few cards, but only use one and keep the other as a backup.
Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or.if all else fails- a tuk-tuk.Cheers Wolvenvacht! Yes the traffic in the cities I've heard is mental. I do however prefer the freedom your own motor gives you. What stresses me out in the UK is 2 hours in 1st and 2nd gear on the M4, M6 etc Are Thailand roads / motorways like this often? Many roadworks? Wherever in Europe I've gone I've driven a car, had some awesome road trips. Would be nice to do Bangkok to Phuket via Hua Hin, for 1 night, on a bike as a few sites I found advertises.
Thanks for other advice. Think I'm going to go with £750 cash an 2 cards.
When you do go outside the touristy places, are there often massage services of some sort? In other words can I assume correctly that in each and every large town in Thailand there will be a massage parlour? Like UK towns have a post office and a bank and a pub.
On the racism issue, I'd like to quote a very good film called Bulworth. If not to make a point, then just to lighten the tension:
"Everybody got to keep fcuking everybody til we're all the same colour"
Jay Billington Bulworth
Crazy4Thai
03-11-13, 10:04
SNIP.
Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or.if all else fails- a tuk-tuk.This is a pretty good summary. I recommend that you dig a little deeper concerning transport on the island of Phuket. You might want a motorbike there as "public transport" is sadly lacking and primarily run by rip-off artists. The international license would be a good idea then because local police will stop you hoping to make you pay a fine on the spot. Be careful about private bus companies who have been known to ransack your "checked" luggage while you are sleeping. Get your tickets only at a bus station to avoid that. As opposed to buying from a tout in tourists areas. Bangkok taxis are good VFM as long as they use the meter. If no meter, you want to get out. I suggest you do web research about travel in Thailand someplace other than a sex based forum.
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Wolvenvacht
03-11-13, 20:40
cheers wolvenvacht! yes the traffic in the cities i've heard is mental. i do however prefer the freedom your own motor gives you. what stresses me out in the uk is 2 hours in 1st and 2nd gear on the m4, m6 etc are thailand roads / motorways like this often? many roadworks? wherever in europe i've gone i've driven a car, had some awesome road trips. would be nice to do bangkok to phuket via hua hin, for 1 night, on a bike as a few sites i found advertises.the intercity highways are pretty good in thailand and allow generally a good speed. smaller roads are still not too bad, but may be potholed here and there. i'd not recommend driving in the dark on these roads, you could easily break a tire or worse. animals may cross these smaller roads at any time.
when you do go outside the touristy places, are there often massage services of some sort? in other words can i assume correctly that in each and every large town in thailand there will be a massage parlour? like uk towns have a post office and a bank and a pub.to be honest, i would not know. when i travel outside of the touristy areas, i travel with my thai gf in her car. no need to go looking for a mp, she takes good care of me. i *assume* there will be mps even in smaller cities but they are likely to be catering for thai men and not for farang. even in a "touristy" spot as kanchanaburi ("bridge over the river kwai") the one mp i visited gave a very good massage but not even a hint of offering anything more. perhaps i just picked the one and only massage only mp?
on the racism issue, i'd like to quote a very good film called bulworth. if not to make a point, then just to lighten the tension:
"everybody got to keep fcuking everybody til we're all the same colour"
jay billington bulworthi totally agree. although i'd better say nothing more. my scientific comments already got me two demerits from the admin.
Incase you did not know, this is a common STD antibiotic.
Just watching a news feed on how Z pac can cause heart attack.
Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.
I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
* Firstly, if any brits, yanks, ozzies, canadians are over there when I am maybe we could meet up for a beer? I'm not looking for a travel partner exactly, just someone who perhaps is in the same boat as me. The majority of my trip will be solo, but it may be cool to meet up for a day or 2.
* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?
* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?
* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?
I was going to add some questions about girls but I'll save that for another post. Plenty of time.
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
DavidBe careful! Thailand is a very addictive drug. To the right guy, it's far stronger than crack cocaine! But, done right, it's far more enjoyable.
1. I'll be there next month, but probably not in September. So, can't take advantage of your kind beer offer.
2. Always book a hotel for 2 persons. Too many cheap bastards try to book a single, and then [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan if the hotel wants a guest fee. Just book for 2 and avoid the hassle. I've only been hassled a bit once. In Pattaya, once, at the A-One hotel, I booked a room for two. The lady explained that if I were to bring a lady back to my room I would be charges X. 000 baht (can't remember the amount). I pointed out that I'd booked a room for two. She looked confused and conferred with her associate. She came back and said that it was OK, but she'd have to leave her I'd at the desk. Standard Operating Procedure for many hotels. Anyway, I've booked "local" hotels all over the place there, and this is the only time the question came up. Just book for 2.
3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.
3. I have had a motorcycle license since the '80s, but won't ride in TH, except for an occastional motorbike trip to the market in a rural town. You'll want to research how many tourists are killed on motorbikes every year in TH. Especially in Phuket. Often alcohol is involved, both on the part of the rider and the part of the truck driver who flattens the rider. Think twice about it.
4. You didn't ask, but do not fall in love with a bar girl. Period. Have fun, get a nice one to take you upcountry and look around. Treat her kindly. Pay her as agreed. But do not try to turn her into a "regular" girl or a wife. You have been warned!
Paul Kausch
03-13-13, 05:12
3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.
SailSingapore
03-13-13, 05:53
Be careful! Thailand is a very addictive drug. To the right guy, it's far stronger than crack cocaine! But, done right, it's far more enjoyable.
1. I'll be there next month, but probably not in September. So, can't take advantage of your kind beer offer.
2. Always book a hotel for 2 persons. Too many cheap bastards try to book a single, and then [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan if the hotel wants a guest fee. Just book for 2 and avoid the hassle. I've only been hassled a bit once. In Pattaya, once, at the A-One hotel, I booked a room for two. The lady explained that if I were to bring a lady back to my room I would be charges X. 000 baht (can't remember the amount). I pointed out that I'd booked a room for two. She looked confused and conferred with her associate. She came back and said that it was OK, but she'd have to leave her I'd at the desk. Standard Operating Procedure for many hotels. Anyway, I've booked "local" hotels all over the place there, and this is the only time the question came up. Just book for 2.
3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.
3. I have had a motorcycle license since the '80s, but won't ride in TH, except for an occastional motorbike trip to the market in a rural town. You'll want to research how many tourists are killed on motorbikes every year in TH. Especially in Phuket. Often alcohol is involved, both on the part of the rider and the part of the truck driver who flattens the rider. Think twice about it.
4. You didn't ask, but do not fall in love with a bar girl. Period. Have fun, get a nice one to take you upcountry and look around. Treat her kindly. Pay her as agreed. But do not try to turn her into a "regular" girl or a wife. You have been warned!GREAT post Bro PP! I especially appreciate points (2) and (4)! THANK YOU :)
I have to beg to differ. Aeon was NOT charging the 150 bt fee. Least not in the T21 location and Paragon nor Khon Kaen. And this was as of January 2013. Citibank at Asoke and its other location in Central World started up with that nonsense 150 bt fee. This was using a USA based debit card.
In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.
Paul Kausch
03-13-13, 15:58
I have to beg to differ. Aeon was NOT charging the 150 bt fee. Least not in the T21 location and Paragon nor Khon Kaen. And this was as of January 2013. Citibank at Asoke and its other location in Central World started up with that nonsense 150 bt fee. This was using a USA based debit card.Interesting. I just now went online to check my December 2012 statement and was indeed charged a THB150 fee by AEON, and the location was at Terminal 21; and since my trip I have read on the same general travel blog on which I first learned about AEON that they had changed their policy and were now charging the THB150 fee. Perhaps after the first of the year they returned to their earlier policy. At any rate your experience is more recent than mine and presumably reflects the current policy.
Well, I am not sure what was happening on your end. I live in Nongbulamphu (Esan) and went back to 11/2012, 12/2012 and 01/2013 and no ATM surcharge when I used a AEON ATM. And in that period I used AEON ATMS in Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, T21 and Paragon. And there were many withdrawals for that is how I fund my Thai Bank Account. I can tell if there is a fee based on the fact I get reimbursed for a ATM fee. Plus I always check the exchange rate I am getting vs that shown via XE. COM. None, other then when I used a Thai bank. I am state side now so I do not have any thing more recent since 31 Jan 2013.
Interesting. I just now went online to check my December 2012 statement and was indeed charged a THB150 fee by AEON, and the location was at Terminal 21; and since my trip I have read on the same general travel blog on which I first learned about AEON that they had changed their policy and were now charging the THB150 fee. Perhaps after the first of the year they returned to their earlier policy. At any rate your experience is more recent than mine and presumably reflects the current policy.
Paul Kausch
03-13-13, 16:59
Well, I am not sure what was happening on your end. I live in Nongbulamphu (Esan) and went back to 11/2012, 12/2012 and 01/2013 and no ATM surcharge when I used a AEON ATM. And in that period I used AEON ATMS in Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, T21 and Paragon. And there were many withdrawals for that is how I fund my Thai Bank Account. I can tell if there is a fee based on the fact I get reimbursed for a ATM fee. Plus I always check the exchange rate I am getting vs that shown via XE. COM. None, other then when I used a Thai bank. I am state side now so I do not have any thing more recent since 31 Jan 2013.I'm glad your spared the fees and sad I'm not. I have no explanation and am inclined to blame it on BofA; they're one of my default scapegoats.
In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.
Sorry but that is incorrect. If you read my original post I said I was and am using a USA based ATM card (State Farm Bank) to pull money from AEON (with no 150 bt fee) to feed my Thai account. Thanks.
Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.
Scorchin1470
03-13-13, 22:42
Those greedy bastards! Damn!So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.
Go back a decade or two to travellers' checks which you paid for up front both for the cash value and for the actual check and then got charged a fee for exchanging them into local currency.
For some reason everyone expects banks to provide a range of services for free forgetting that your minimal transactions all cost the banks money. Count yourself lucky that banks.
Bother to provide these services when they could be focussing on international investment banking and not retail consumer based banking.
Sorry but that is incorrect. If you read my original post I said I was and am using a USA based ATM card (State Farm Bank) to pull money from AEON (with no 150 bt fee) to feed my Thai account. Thanks.Chales Schwab Bank (not brokerage) Visa Debit cards refund all ATM charges. Even from Thai ATM machines.
So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.Don't you think Bank's have been taking the Royal [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the last few years? IMO they should be keeping their heads down for a long time to come.
Regards,
BJ
Paul Kausch
03-14-13, 06:25
Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.I still use AEON because they allow a larger withdrawal (THB40,000). I always make the maximum withdrawal and use the ATM less frequently.
So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.Fully agreeing. Wondering if those guys work for free.
So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.
Go back a decade or two to travellers' checks which you paid for up front both for the cash value and for the actual check and then got charged a fee for exchanging them into local currency.
For some reason everyone expects banks to provide a range of services for free forgetting that your minimal transactions all cost the banks money. Count yourself lucky that banks.
Bother to provide these services when they could be focussing on international investment banking and not retail consumer based banking.Last I recalled, all the US banks got massive taxpayer bailouts after playing fast and loose with the housing mortgage market. All with the assistance of Uncle Sam. That's my tax money they took, then refuse to lend to anybody. And, yes, I have a bunch of money in these banks and still get dinged $5 for a foreign transaction fee. The US banks don't have to support Thai ATMs. Why the hell do they need to add insult to injury?
I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.
I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.
So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.Nobody said banks should work for free. Cost of an inter-bank ATM transaction in Thailand, Bt. 25, international Bt 150. It is gouging done simply because tourists can and must pay up, and has nothing to do with the actual cost of providing the service.
It is right and commendable that people shares suggestions on how to avoid fees. I have one, get an ATM card with no foreign exchange fees (usually 2. 5%). These are very hard to find, but there are. Eg for the US, some credit unions, Citibank Gold account.
Nobody said banks should work for free. Cost of an inter-bank ATM transaction in Thailand, Bt. 25, international Bt 150. It is gouging done simply because tourists can and must pay up, and has nothing to do with the actual cost of providing the service.
It is right and commendable that people shares suggestions on how to avoid fees. I have one, get an ATM card with no foreign exchange fees (usually 2. 5%). These are very hard to find, but there are. Eg for the US, some credit unions, Citibank Gold account.Whilst the surcharge on an individual withdrawal probably would not be considered excessive I think Marcos is right when he say's the banks are not just covering costs but making money. I think the possibility exists for them to keep chipping away at small charges here and there which do not represent simply covering costs.
A few years ago Banks in the UK tried to levy a 1 GBP charge for every ATM withdrawal, this caused such an outcry the scheme was scrapped. We do not have to accept every time the Banks try to bend us over.
Regards,
BJ
Interesting this is my 69th post. I am looking for sushi in BKK to eat off those naked girls. it's called (nyotaimori). I googled and searched the forum and I have found nothing. Anyone know If there is such a thing there. If so where and name please.
I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.
Paul Kausch
03-14-13, 17:44
Last I recalled, all the US banks got massive taxpayer bailouts after playing fast and loose with the housing mortgage market. All with the assistance of Uncle Sam. That's my tax money they took, then refuse to lend to anybody. And, yes, I have a bunch of money in these banks and still get dinged $5 for a foreign transaction fee. The US banks don't have to support Thai ATMs. Why the hell do they need to add insult to injury?
I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.Don't misunderstand me. I'm not defending the banks; however, the TARP funds have been repaid and the taxpayers made whole. The new banking regulations have had a major impact on their revenues and they are working very hard to find new revenue streams.
Scorchin1470
03-14-13, 17:46
The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.Exaggeration and inaccuracy does your cause no good.
It is not just the 5 cent cost of the electronic transfer. There are many other costs in giving you the convenience of being able to draw money from an account overseas.
Please provide a real example of a $10 fee.
Banks have a duty to their shareholders to make a profit and of course they choose the easy option of an automatic charge
"Loan sharking" is a totally different issue and irrelevant to your concerns.
Wolvenvacht
03-14-13, 21:22
Interesting this is my 69th post. I am looking for sushi in BKK to eat off those naked girls. it's called (nyotaimori). I googled and searched the forum and I have found nothing. Anyone know If there is such a thing there. If so where and name please.Just buy some sushi, available in any of the up-market foodcourts in the shopping malls and get a Japan doll from an a-gogo like Baccara.
Wolvenvacht
03-14-13, 21:25
I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.I will happily pay the banks any reasonable fee, provided they pay me a nice interest on the money on my account. The way it now is, they get to use my money nearly for free and then have the nerve to charge me if I dare to ask some of it back.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/travel/36-hours-in-bangkok.html?hpw
Exaggeration and inaccuracy does your cause no good.
It is not just the 5 cent cost of the electronic transfer. There are many other costs in giving you the convenience of being able to draw money from an account overseas.
Please provide a real example of a $10 fee.
Banks have a duty to their shareholders to make a profit and of course they choose the easy option of an automatic charge
"Loan sharking" is a totally different issue and irrelevant to your concerns.I can provide a bunch of $10 charges. 150 baht = $5 these days, and Wells Fargo dinged me about $5 for every foreign ATM withdrawal. I finally got rid of WFB due to their rapacious service charges. Nickel and dimed for every damn thing, despite having multiple personal and business accounts.
But to go back to the original point, due to these fees a newbie may wish to consider either bringing cash, or structuring his withdrawals in such a way as to minimize trips to the ATM, thus avoiding these ridiculous service charges.
Mr Enternational
03-15-13, 09:17
The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.It does not cost McDonald's any more than 40 cents to make a Big Mac, nor does it cost them any more than 10 cents for a refreshing cup of Coca-Cola. But uhhh. Employees have to be paid, real estate has to be paid, utilities have to be paid, taxes have to be paid, and shareholders expect a return on investment. It's called business.
If it's that big of a deal then withdraw your cash before you come for free and go exchange it yourself. One great thing about Thailand is all of the currency exchange kiosks and the great rate you get. Try that shit in Europe.
It does not cost McDonald's any more than 40 cents to make a Big Mac, nor does it cost them any more than 10 cents for a refreshing cup of Coca-Cola. But uhhh. Employees have to be paid, real estate has to be paid, utilities have to be paid, taxes have to be paid, and shareholders expect a return on investment. It's called business.No It's called gouging, because in most countries of the world there is isn't this extra fee, meaning that banks are happy enough taking TWO point FIVE percent off any exchange. But here, since tourists keep coming and coming, they figured they could impose it. We're talking Thai banks, that are all making huge profits, check they fact sheets.
Scorchin1470
03-15-13, 09:38
I can provide a bunch of $10 charges. 150 baht = $5 these days, and Wells Fargo dinged me about $5 for every foreign ATM withdrawal. I finally got rid of WFB due to their rapacious service charges. Nickel and dimed for every damn thing, despite having multiple personal and business accounts.
But to go back to the original point, due to these fees a newbie may wish to consider either bringing cash, or structuring his withdrawals in such a way as to minimize trips to the ATM, thus avoiding these ridiculous service charges.1. You say you can provide a bunch of $10 charges but talk then about $5 charges?
2. Your second point is valid but many a newbie may not be street wise on the perils of carrying a shed load of cash.
3. Always withdraw the maximum you can as many fees are fixed irrespective of the amount you take out.
No It's called gouging, because in most countries of the world there is isn't this extra fee, meaning that banks are happy enough taking TWO point FIVE percent off any exchange. But here, since tourists keep coming and coming, they figured they could impose it. We're talking Thai banks, that are all making huge profits, check they fact sheets.Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.
Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.
Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.Spoken like a true banker. There is a difference between giving dividends and greed for greed's sake. There is no issue of supply and demand here in order for the justification of 150B charge. They are taking advantage of the people. The software costs and the ATM costs are capital costs which are amortized over the entire operation. Today's transaction are done electronically and no actual physical transactions take place. McDonald's analogy is like apples and oranges. They provide value for their products.
As for the low cost policies, it is the result of the greed to make as much money off the customers. So if the poor guys were paid better, the economy would be much stronger. The poor are still poorer but the rich are getting richer. Wasn't the ATMs brought in to reduce costs for the banks? Less tellers etc. Now I don't know about European banks, I am talking about US banks.
Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.Fairness? What is the problem. Show them where they belong. Don't accept the 150 Baht charge. Go local, open an account with Kasikorn and voila! As long as there are enough fools to pay up, they win. And Yeah, 150 baht is less than what you expect to pay for a coffee back home, so who cares.
Fairness? What is the problem. Show them where they belong. Don't accept the 150 Baht charge. Go local, open an account with Kasikorn and voila! As long as there are enough fools to pay up, they win. And Yeah, 150 baht is less than what you expect to pay for a coffee back home, so who cares.Tiger, I have a Kasikorn account since years. Another time we can talk about the fees they charge when receiving money.
And "back home" where I'm from, a Illy coffee (just to say a known brand) costs a max of Bt. 50. I simply like to value my money.
Tiger, I have a Kasikorn account since years. Another time we can talk about the fees they charge when receiving money.
And "back home" where I'm from, a Illy coffee (just to say a known brand) costs a max of Bt. 50. I simply like to value my money.Kudos to you then. One of the very few who take the effort to understand the game.
Member #4537
03-16-13, 08:26
Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?
1. You say you can provide a bunch of $10 charges but talk then about $5 charges?
2. Your second point is valid but many a newbie may not be street wise on the perils of carrying a shed load of cash.
3. Always withdraw the maximum you can as many fees are fixed irrespective of the amount you take out.$5 x 2 = $10. Right? $5 on the front end and another $5 on the back end. Thus, $10 each withdrawal.
Nobody should carry a ton of cash. An in-room safe is mandatory. Only carry what you intend to spend for the day.
Yes, it's best to withdraw the max. Reduces the fee as a percentage of the total. Unfortunately, the ATMs I pick always seem to be a bit short of cash and I can't withdraw the max.
Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.This reminds me of a business run by an acquaintance of a friend. His business is phones and long distance services. The catch is that it's for "pay phones" in prisons. He has a contact with the state granting him a monopoly (at least in specific prisons, not sure if it's state-wide). The inmates have to make collect calls via these phones, and they have no choice but to utilize this guy's long distance service. As you can imagine, the rates are astronomical. Bend over and grab your ankles rates.
So, if the families of the inmates want to speak to said inmates, they get well and truly fucked. And this guy is uber-wealthy, on the backs of people who can probably least afford it.
Now, I'm capitalist to the core, and have little sympathy for most prisoners (bogus drug crimes are a big exception) , but reaming people just because you can is wrong. I don't mean supply and demand, I'm talking about taking advantage of people just because you can, or rigging the system so people have no other choice.
Maybe ATM fees aren't on the same level, but the concept seems to be the same. Thais are notorious for double pricing, and as a tourist what are you going to do about it? The US banks fees are just salt in the wound.
I have two opened with Kasikorn. One at an Asoke branch and another up in Esan in Nongbulamphu. No problem what so ever at the time. Can not speak for now a days.
Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?
Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?In theory, none.
In theory, none.Incorrect, because Thailand has laws and regulations against foreigners doing pretty much anything, but not against them having a bank account. If banks don't, it's only because of their internal policies. So we know that Kasikorn does, and is not breaking any rule.
Incorrect, because Thailand has laws and regulations against foreigners doing pretty much anything, but not against them having a bank account. If banks don't, it's only because of their internal policies. So we know that Kasikorn does, and is not breaking any rule.So you are saying that they don't require a work permit?
So you are saying that they don't require a work permit?Pita123,
For a current account you need a work permit / retirement visa. For a savings account not, you can open that with a tourist visa.
Adding the TIT factor --- it will be different from bank to bank, but Bangkok Bank, SCB and Kasikorn usually handle it this way.
Giotto
http://www.livingstoneslodge.com
I have two opened with Kasikorn. One at an Asoke branch and another up in Esan in Nongbulamphu. No problem what so ever at the time. Can not speak for now a days.This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.
Scorchin1470
03-16-13, 22:19
This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.Why don't you contact the bank directly? I have found great personal expertise on her does not translate into generic information.
Try using Bangkok Bank savings account with an ATM routing through their New York offices's ABA number so your USA bank treats it as a transfer to your external USA account. Citibank does not charge me any fee for a three day transfer. You will probably need to confirm two small deposit amounts before you are set up.
Search Bangkok Bank New York for numbers and details.
Why don't you contact the bank directly? I have found great personal expertise on her does not translate into generic information.
For fees go here: (make your way down to the "Schedule of Fees" Section)
http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/ServicesChannel/SearchServiceChannel/Internet/Pages/KCyberBanking.aspx#fees
I do not wire transfer from USA to my Kasikorn. I ATM feed it from AEON machines.
Interest is next to non-existant.
This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.
Mr Enternational
03-17-13, 02:11
This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?I have Kasikorn as well. No more 150 baht foreign card withdrawal fees is the advantage. But if you do not live here, are not here frequently, are not intending to deposit astronomical sums, or stay at a hotel that has a safe then there is really no point. Bring money to exchange and keep it in the safe in the hotel as most normal people do the world over.
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?I have never been charged anything. Even in the USA I have HSBC and credit union and have never been charged anything.
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?No surcharges. (I thought that was the point of having an account - because people don't want to pay the 150 baht surcharge for using foreign cards.)
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.Interest Rates for an Individual.
Savings.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
< 1, 000 million 0. 75.
Fixed Deposit.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
3 Months 6 Months 12 Months 24 Months.
< 1. 0 million 1. 60 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
1. 0 million to < 10. 0 million 1. 70 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
10. 0 million to < 30. 0 million 1. 70 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
30. 0 million to < 50. 0 million 1. 80 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
50. 0 million to < 100. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
100. 0 million to < 5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55
Paul Kausch
03-17-13, 02:49
I have Kasikorn as well.
One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.What!
This not true. USA banks do indeed use Swift Code, which can easily be found on the internet.
For example.
http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-states/
I have Kasikorn as well. No more 150 baht foreign card withdrawal fees is the advantage. But if you do not live here, are not here frequently, are not intending to deposit astronomical sums, or stay at a hotel that has a safe then there is really no point. Bring money to exchange and keep it in the safe in the hotel as most normal people do the world over.
I have never been charged anything. Even in the USA I have HSBC and credit union and have never been charged anything.
Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.
No surcharges. (I thought that was the point of having an account. Because people don't want to pay the 150 baht surcharge for using foreign cards.)
Interest Rates for an Individual.
Savings.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
< 1, 000 million 0. 75.
Fixed Deposit.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
3 Months 6 Months 12 Months 24 Months.
< 1. 0 million 1. 60 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
1. 0 million to < 10. 0 million 1. 70 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
10. 0 million to < 30. 0 million 1. 70 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
30. 0 million to < 50. 0 million 1. 80 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
50. 0 million to < 100. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
100. 0 million to < 5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55
For fees go here: (make your way down to the "Schedule of Fees" Section)
http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/ServicesChannel/SearchServiceChannel/Internet/Pages/KCyberBanking.aspx#fees
I do not wire transfer from USA to my Kasikorn. I ATM feed it from AEON machines.
Interest is next to non-existant.Thanks so much for the information, guys!
I've been moving my stuff out of Wells Fargo due to the constant maintenance charges and petty fees for this and that. And, yes, I understand the comment about major hassle wiring money. I was doing business with a BKK company and needed to wire money. OMG what a hassle, and WFB charged like a wounded rhino on top of it.
I hope to be coming more frequently, and I like the idea of not having to carry a wad of Benjamins around to stash in the hotel safe. It's my usual MO, but I'd like to avoid it.
So, I'll take your advice and my GF and I will visit a Kasikorn branch and see about an account.
This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.Another option for moving money easily without hassle of international fees etc. Try Bangkok Bank, you can transfer from your US account domestically through their branch in NY. Just send in USD and it will convert automatically to THB with more favorable rates. I use this once or twice a year to move cash to my Thai Bangkok Bank acct:
http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/PersonalBanking/DailyBanking/TransferingFunds/TransferringIntoThailand/ReceivingFundsfromUSA/Pages/ReceivingFundsfromUSA.aspx
Pita123,
For a current account you need a work permit / retirement visa. For a savings account not, you can open that with a tourist visa.Or even with a 30-days visa exempt entry.
LittleBigMan
03-17-13, 14:22
Although cash is good if you have the ability to obtain Travelers checks free at home the exchange for Travelers checks are higher than cash! Food for thought?
LBM
Although cash is good if you have the ability to obtain Travelers checks free at home the exchange for Travelers checks are higher than cash! Food for thought?
LBMCan you please elaborate on this?
I was planning to exchange cash in the US before my trip but I can also get travelers checks and exchange them after I arrive.
Where is the best place to exchange while in BKK?
Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.American banks do have a Swift Code. If you talk to the dumb tellers they have no clue what you are talking about. Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager and they will give it.
ABB routing is used for domestic WT. Swift for International WT.
American banks do have a Swift Code.True, I comleted an international wire (with swift code) before from Chase bank but the transfer fee was almost as high as the amount I transferred.
http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-states
True, I comleted an international wire (with swift code) before from Chase bank but the transfer fee was almost as high as the amount I transferred.
http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-statesAgree 200. I have made only a few Wire transfers, with Swift Code, from Vanguard (USA) to my BKK Kasikorn account. Fees and poor exchange rate is why I do not do it. As said I spoon feed my Kasikorn account via AEON ATMS.
Mr Enternational
03-17-13, 19:23
American banks do have a Swift Code. If you talk to the dumb tellers they have no clue what you are talking about. Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager and they will give it.
ABB routing is used for domestic WT. Swift for International WT.Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.
Scorchin1470
03-17-13, 20:01
Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.Bit saying it was "Dublin". No one in Ireland uses banks.
Randy Murican
03-17-13, 21:38
Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager.This is really good advise. Be sure to ask them about Recurrent Electronic Wire Transfers. With E-W-T's you can wire any amount to a chosen account. There is a little bit of paperwork to complete in order to set up the account. But no more than you are filling out each time you want to send a regular wire transfer. It may take as long as a week to have the account configured by your bank. Once completed, you need only call your banks recurrent wire transfer number, punch in the account info and your passcode and you can transfer your funds to your Thai account. If done before 11 am (EST-USA) the funds typically show up the next business day. I pay a fixed fee of $30 USD for each transfer regardless of amount. Simple, easy, and reliable. I've done this for years without any problems and typically transfer larger amounts to improve the dollar-cost average.
Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.Did you speak USA English? If so, they probably did not understand you.
LittleBigMan
03-18-13, 02:41
Can you please elaborate on this?
I was planning to exchange cash in the US before my trip but I can also get travelers checks and exchange them after I arrive.
Where is the best place to exchange while in BKK?I can't tell you where since I'm not in BKK, What I do noticed in Pattaya, and it has been a while since I went around looking for the best exchange rate. When I did, about a year ago for example I noticed that the booth inside Big C Extra near the video outlet which by the way is a Bangkok Bank Booth, but seem to have much better rates than Bangkok Bank branches throughout Pattaya? They were also higher than all the banks around Pattaya.
I walked by this booth for G. P. Since the Dollar to Baht ratio has been dropping. What I noticed is for a 100 USD note for example it is around 29. 43, Traveler checks says 29. 51, so like I said if you don't have to pay for these Traveler Checks to be issue at home then you can come out ahead I guess? But if you have to pay for them to be issue coming out ahead most likely wouldn't happen unless the rate is so much higher to offset the cost of TC?
From my experience if you exchange your USD cash for Baht at U.S. the rate would be even lower than in Thailand.
LBM
Mr Enternational
03-18-13, 04:52
I walked by this booth for G. P. Since the Dollar to Baht ratio has been dropping. What I noticed is for a 100 USD note for example it is around 29. 43, Traveler checks says 29. 51, so like I said if you don't have to pay for these Traveler Checks to be issue at home then you can come out ahead I guess? But if you have to pay for them to be issue coming out ahead most likely wouldn't happen unless the rate is so much higher to offset the cost of TC?I cashed in $100 in TC yesterday at Kasikorn. The rate was 29. 32 baht-60 baht fee-6 baht stamp duty. So for US$100 TC I ended up with 2866 baht.
I had not signed the top line where it says sign here when received. The lady at the first booth went ballistic and refused to cash it because there was no signature there. I said no problem I can sign it now. So I signed it and still nothing. I went to the one down the street and the guy cashed it. I have very limited experience with TC (this is my second time using them. Both times awards from work) so I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs.
This is really good advise. Be sure to ask them about Recurrent Electronic Wire Transfers. With E-W-T's you can wire any amount to a chosen account. There is a little bit of paperwork to complete in order to set up the account. But no more than you are filling out each time you want to send a regular wire transfer. It may take as long as a week to have the account configured by your bank. Once completed, you need only call your banks recurrent wire transfer number, punch in the account info and your passcode and you can transfer your funds to your Thai account. If done before 11 am (EST-USA) the funds typically show up the next business day. I pay a fixed fee of $30 USD for each transfer regardless of amount. Simple, easy, and reliable. I've done this for years without any problems and typically transfer larger amounts to improve the dollar-cost average.With Citibank you do not need any form signed and can do everything online. I've never put foot into a Citibank branch not even to open the account, for which I received a bonus of $150. Outgoing wire fee is $30 ($20 for Citigold accounts). When sending to Kasikork, someone then takes $15 and neither bank will disclose who did. Sending to Citi Thailand account is free, but apparently Citi Thailand requires a work permit to open an account.
https://online.citibank.com/JRS/portal/template.do?ID=MoneyXfrCompare
LittleBigMan
03-18-13, 11:37
I cashed in $100 in TC yesterday at Kasikorn. The rate was 29. 32 baht-60 baht fee-6 baht stamp duty. So for US$100 TC I ended up with 2866 baht.
I had not signed the top line where it says sign here when received. The lady at the first booth went ballistic and refused to cash it because there was no signature there. I said no problem I can sign it now. So I signed it and still nothing. I went to the one down the street and the guy cashed it. I have very limited experience with TC (this is my second time using them. Both times awards from work) so I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs.Not sure of all the extra's required or not! My opinion was based on what I see on the board so if
You or someone recently cash TC. And the rate is higher but you have additional charges it might
Not be worth bring TC even if you don't pay for them in the USA etc. Then when you add up
Everything it is the same or lower that cash then of course why even bother?
LBM
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Not be worth bring TC even if you don't pay for them in the USA etc. Then when you add up
Everything it is the same or lower that cash then of course why even bother?
LBMTC's provides safety. If lost and stolen you can get replacement for them unlike the bank notes.
LittleBigMan
03-19-13, 02:58
TC's provides safety. If lost and stolen you can get replacement for them unlike the bank notes.True but my reply was only on the higher exchange rate offer compare to cash!
LBM
Just heard back from my Chase rep. They want 3% of each foreign withdrawal!
So, on a $500 withdrawal, that's $15, plus the $5 that the Thai bank gets.
I don't care how badly banks need to "make a living." This, as my UK friends say, is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
So, this April I'm just going to bring a wad of Benjamins. Screw these people.
Paul Kausch
03-20-13, 05:28
Just heard back from my Chase rep. They want 3% of each foreign withdrawal!
So, on a $500 withdrawal, that's $15, plus the $5 that the Thai bank gets.
I don't care how badly banks need to "make a living." This, as my UK friends say, is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
So, this April I'm just going to bring a wad of Benjamins. Screw these people.My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).
Crazy4Thai
03-20-13, 08:52
My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).When the Thai banks started charging $5 I was not happy. When my CU then followed suit, I was less happy. But JFC, I have to hope that a bank provides a complementary tube of KY when you open an account with them.
My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).I don't think you are done yet.
I bet they shaved off more profit in the currency conversion you don't see in the $1306. 29 What day did you take the money (where was the exact rate on that day) so you can figure how much they took on this component.
BOA has been screwing people since I angrily left them in 1987 and they have always been leading the way for the rest of the pack. I honestly don't know why people go to them in the first place. Once I went with Charles Schwab in 87 and I never looked back. Best thing I ever did. They are competitive and never any nickle and dime-ing account charges the whole time I have been with them.
Paul Kausch
03-20-13, 16:26
I don't think you are done yet.
I bet they shaved off more profit in the currency conversion you don't see in the $1306. 29 What day did you take the money (where was the exact rate on that day) so you can figure how much they took on this component.
BOA has been screwing people since I angrily left them in 1987 and they have always been leading the way for the rest of the pack. I honestly don't know why people go to them in the first place. Once I went with Charles Schwab in 87 and I never looked back. Best thing I ever did. They are competitive and never any nickle and dime-ing account charges the whole time I have been with them.Well, let's do the math: 40, 000/1306. 29 = 30. 62. At the time the exchange rate was 30. 63+- and I was getting about 30. 4 for $100 bills at Superrich1965. So I would have come out ahead had a brought a stack of $100's with me, but the amount of cash I burned through on that trip would have required a rather large stack of $100's. I've been with BofA for over twenty years. I pay no fees on things like accounts, wire transfers, travelers checks, etc. So I can't complain. Of course they pay next to nothing on the balance I maintain, so indeed these services are not free. I manage an elderly relatives financial affairs and her bank incessantly solicits my business. They can't beat "free" and the interest they pay is more or less equally pathetic so I stick with BofA. But I'd move my banking if another bank made a better offer. Of course, first I'd go to BofA and ask them if they're interested in keeping my business. Glad your happy with Chuck. Most people can't say the same about their bank.
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
ThanksNo, it is not. And I'm not saying that because "I never got it".
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
ThanksAbsolutely get the Hep vaccines. While your there get and updated tetanus which includes most importantly diphtheria & pertussis. Lastly, may as well get a shingles shot. I had a mild case a few months ago and I'm well below the age for that vaccine or malady. It was mild but now I have a natural immunity for a while but a full-blown case can be hell and easily avoidable.
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
ThanksMongering or otherwise known as indiscriminate sexual encounters has its risks. Get inoculations as necessary. That is one less thing you need to worry about. If you are a fan of BBBJ and bareback sex you are putting yourself in danger from any number of STD.
Just because others have not been infected does not mean anything. Be very careful in Thailand as it attracts sex tourists from all over the world.
Big Poppa II
03-20-13, 17:22
It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPII
It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPIINope. What do you mean hookers? We have no hookers here. You are in the wrong site buddy. You need to go to nickelodeon. Com.
It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPIIPlease advise. How do airline loyalty program status and flight cost discussions help us "on finding hookers in Bangkok" I wonder?
I checked United and the lowest reward travel I see is 65, 000 miles in coach RT. I'm 1K and 2M. How did you get such a good deal?
Thanks, BP
Scorchin1470
03-20-13, 17:47
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions. Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
ThanksTo look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animals
Mongering or otherwise known as indiscriminate sexual encounters has its risks. Get inoculations as necessary. That is one less thing you need to worry about. If you are a fan of BBBJ and bareback sex you are putting yourself in danger from any number of STD.
Just because others have not been infected does not mean anything. Be very careful in Thailand as it attracts sex tourists from all over the world.This is the kind of stuff that is annoying.
Thanks for the advice.
What a fricken hypocrite.
Just on 3/15 you reported how you have gotten 3 girls pregnant. And your 1500+ posts are full of risky sexual encounters. Yet you are suggesting to practice safe sex? Look in the mirror.
LittleBigMan
03-21-13, 02:49
Please advise. How do airline loyalty program status and flight cost discussions help us "on finding hookers in Bangkok" I wonder?To answer your question " I wonder " What a person save on airfare can be applied towards finding hookers of any value and if cheaper they can find more and and do more?
LBM
It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPIIProstitution is illegal in Thailand. Therefore it would be unwise for any member of this august board to assist you with breaking the law.
BTW, it's the "General" thread, so to me that means topics of general interest. And it seems that, generally, everybody is interested in saving money.
Wolvenvacht
03-21-13, 08:08
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Therefore it would be unwise for any member of this August board to assist you with breaking the law.
BTW, it's the "General" thread, so to me that means topics of general interest. And it seems that, generally, everybody is interested in saving money.Prostitution is NOT illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal, so is holding a brothel or being a nuisance when publicly solliciting as a prostitute.
To look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animalsI was just interested in knowing what the other members who have visited before have done or not done.
Also, I didn't mention nor even consider rablies. Where did you come up with that?
Basically I was not going to do anything as I am not traveling far off the beaten path and I am generally careful, but I wanted to know if others knew that it was a MUST to get certain vaccines.
I will talk to my doctor again.
Thanks
To answer your question " I wonder " What a person save on airfare can be applied towards finding hookers of any value and if cheaper they can find more and and do more?
LBMOh, we're using Thai logic. My bad.
Prostitution is NOT illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal, so is holding a brothel or being a nuisance when publicly solliciting as a prostitute.I was being sarcastic. However, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in Thailand, is illegal. Please refer to The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B. E. 2539 (1996).
It provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. Now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on Pty Soi 6, or Beach Road, are in violation. Almost all the Soi 6 bars are in violation. BJ bars? Ya think? In fact, I suspect that the go-gos of BKK don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. It can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
A lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. But if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. So, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in LOS these days IS illegal.
I was being sarcasticJust to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.
Just to stir more bickering, that always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.I think you might be right. Shame some countries are serious, they miss out on a lot.
Wolvenvacht
03-21-13, 20:26
Just to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.It is not. I am from Belgium and we have great stand-up comedians here and our policital scene is a world-reknowned farce.
Anyhow, unless you have followed the whole series of messages leading up to the "prostitution is illegal", you will never understand it was a sarcastic remark. It is my firm belief that humor is a good thing, but that you should never ever give wrong information unless you do it in such a way that in and by itself is clear for all it is a joke.
Remember that many of the readers of this forum do not have English as their first language and many will also not read all messages all the time.
Wolvenvacht
03-21-13, 20:59
I was being sarcastic. However, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in Thailand, is illegal. Please refer to The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B. E. 2539 (1996).
It provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. Now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on Pty Soi 6, or Beach Road, are in violation. Almost all the Soi 6 bars are in violation. BJ bars? Ya think? In fact, I suspect that the go-gos of BKK don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. It can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
A lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. But if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. So, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in LOS these days IS illegal.On the street (the law says "in a street, public place or any other place", so in theory even the privacy of your hotel room does not protect her!) , she may offer her services, provided she does not "cause nuisance to the public" or does not make that offer "in an open and shameless manner". And even if she runs afoul of these rules, it still does not make the prostitution illegal, only the way the offer was made.
You may think this is splitting hairs, but we lawyers make a living by distinguishing such subtle differences.
And I fully agree that the Soi 6 bars in Pattaya are on the wrong side of the law. Same same for the BJ bars. They are clearly in violation of Section 6 of the law ("Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of himself or herself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both."). But that still does not make the act of prostitution illegal.
Whether an a-gogo club is illegal is a more difficult question. Is it a "prostitution establishment"? The definition is "a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I am sure these are not places "established for prostitition" or "in which prostitution is allowed" (those are the Soi 6 type of bars). But I think they come dangerously close to being "a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I guess that the "barfine" trick (you pay the club some money to take the girl away before the end of her shift and the club has nothing to do with the negotiation or organisation of some extra-curricular activities) will not survive any close scrutiny.
Fortunately the Thai police is too busy with checking the drivers licences of farang motorcycle riders to bother themselves with the a-gogo clubs.
Wolvenvacht
03-21-13, 21:36
Also, I didn't mention nor even consider rablies. Where did you come up with that?Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.
http://life.time.com/curiosities/photos-mike-the-headless-chicken-beyond-belief/#1
Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.If you've recieved the rabies vaccine you will still need to get shots in case you are bitten & should immediately start that process. The vaccine only decreases the number of shots you will require.
The travel clinic in Canada also recommended to me Japanese B Encephalitis & Typhoid shots in addition to those you mentioned.
http://travelclinic.vch.ca
To look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animalsYou are correct. That was inaccurate advice you provided.
My doctor in Canada referred me to a travel clinic since that is what they specialize in & they keep up with the latest info which is continuously changing.
For my present multi month trip to Bangkok they recommended rabies shots as well as several others I mentioned in my other post on this topic.
Around NEP in Bangkok it is not uncommon to see what appears to be stray malnourished dogs & cats that could be carrying rabies.
BTW another serious medical concern is traveller's diarrhea (TD) & the travel clinic informed me re a number of ways to tackle that, including antibiotic pills. My doctor actually gave me the wrong antibiotic (ciprofloxacin) for TD, while the travel clinic prescribed for me the correct antibiotic for TD in Thailand, which is azithromycin.
No matter where I've gone in the city it has been difficult to escape potentially disease carrying mosquitos, such as on the street, in a bar or restaurant, at MBK or a hotel room. I've recieved quite a number of bites in BKK, some even on the face, which often itch for days, with much larger swelling than bites in Canada & can make a 16 square inch area of my skin turn black for weeks.
http://www.thaitravelclinic.com/blog/travel-medicine-issue/rabies-vaccine-in-southeast-asia-is-it-necessary.html
On the street (the law says "in a street, public place or any other place", so in theory even the privacy of your hotel room does not protect her!) , she may offer her services, provided she does not "cause nuisance to the public" or does not make that offer "in an open and shameless manner". And even if she runs afoul of these rules, it still does not make the prostitution illegal, only the way the offer was made.
You may think this is splitting hairs, but we lawyers make a living by distinguishing such subtle differences.
And I fully agree that the Soi 6 bars in Pattaya are on the wrong side of the law. Same same for the BJ bars. They are clearly in violation of Section 6 of the law ("Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of himself or herself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both."). But that still does not make the act of prostitution illegal.
Whether an a-gogo club is illegal is a more difficult question. Is it a "prostitution establishment"? The definition is "a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I am sure these are not places "established for prostitition" or "in which prostitution is allowed" (those are the Soi 6 type of bars). But I think they come dangerously close to being "a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I guess that the "barfine" trick (you pay the club some money to take the girl away before the end of her shift and the club has nothing to do with the negotiation or organisation of some extra-curricular activities) will not survive any close scrutiny.
Fortunately the Thai police is too busy with checking the drivers licences of farang motorcycle riders to bother themselves with the a-gogo clubs.Agreed.
Actually, it seems most of the cops have time to hassle motorcycle-riding farangs, because they've already been paid off by said go-go bars. :)
Just to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.Actually, my somewhat snide comment was to the post by Big Poppa. I couldn't tell from whence he hails, based up on that handle. :)
Scorchin1470
03-22-13, 19:44
You are correct. That was inaccurate advice you provided.
No matter where I've gone in the city it has been difficult to escape potentially disease carrying mosquitos, such as on the street, in a bar or restaurant, at MBK or a hotel room. I've recieved quite a number of bites in BKK, some even on the face, which often itch for days, with much larger swelling than bites in Canada & can make a 16 square inch area of my skin turn black for weeks.
http://www.thaitravelclinic.com/blog/travel-medicine-issue/rabies-vaccine-in-southeast-asia-is-it-necessary.htmlWhich bit of advice was inaccurate. After you said I was correct?
Given the serious concerns over the increasing ineffectiveness of antibiotics (it pays drug companies to find a cure for baldness rather than a cure for malaria) many doctors advise a three
Day wait (rice, bananas and fluids helps as do rehydration packs) with DandV before you use antibiotics.
Go talk to your doctor again about the bites. You have a very high reaction to bites which may indicate something more serious.
Please stop with the scare tactics.
1. Around Nana the dogs seem to be well fed. LOL. I do make wide turns around them though. If people were catching rabies from these soi dogs I'm sure they would have been eliminated a long time ago. The aggressive ladyboys scare me more than the dogs.
2. All mosq. Could be potentially carrying disease. I've been bitten by BKK mosquitoes, it itches a bit then goes away. I'd be more terriifed of catching diseases from your 500 baht streetwalker. LOL.Most of those dogs are friendly. But they do seem to be diseased with their unkempt sad looks and pus ozzing from their AH's.
I tried to feed a few some cooked beef. The ones that hang out near the skytrain stairs a block from Soi 8. They would not eat it.
I came back later and saw one of them eating dog shit.
Member #4410
03-22-13, 23:03
Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.I have to put in a correction here. I travelled to two areas where rabiës is not uncommon, Kazakhstan (dogs) and Indonesia (cats and bats) so I took the shots.
I was informed that despite these shots I would still need additional shots within 24 hours if I considered there was a risk of infection. These could be the standard vaccinations, not the anti-virus which is rarely in stock in local hospitals.
Don't think the incubation period is a few weeks: IT IS NOT. Once you contract rabiës it is always fatal, not almost always.
Kind regards,
Ko
Member #4410
03-22-13, 23:19
No, it is not. And I'm not saying that because "I never got it".Then what reason can you possibly have to advise somebody that vaccinations are unneccessary?
Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?
Regards,
Ko
Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?Everf thought that even in medical there are companies that have to make business? Maybe they induce the concept a vaccination is necessary (doing it, in most cases, is harmless) so they can induce the business.
Western787
03-23-13, 07:37
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks
No matter what season, you are going to an extreme tropical climate, in effect a jungle.
The risks are even higher in non high season with the rains. Phuket also higher.
Its based on how long you are staying, (greater than a month?) and whether it will be restricted to major cities etc. They base it on probabilities and destinations, and risk of exposure.
You really need to consult a (often an RN supervised by MD, who can order certain shots) specialist, cheapest way is the one's affiliated with hospitals (least in the USA) Regular travel clinics more pricey.
HEP A and HEP B, (or combined Twinrex) Tet / Dip / Pert, (usually partly paid for by insurance) and several insurance will not normally cover such as Typhoid the most important, and in some cases for long term expected stay they will often recommend for Thailand Jap Enc (2 very expensive shots done 30 days apart)
Most of those dogs are friendly. But they do seem to be diseased with their unkempt sad looks and pus ozzing from their AH's.
I tried to feed a few some cooked beef. The ones that hang out near the skytrain stairs a block from Soi 8. They would not eat it.
I came back later and saw one of them eating dog shit.My god, where did you get the beef? The dogs preferred shit over the beef? Don't tell me that you eat that beef. :-))
My god, where did you get the beef? The dogs preferred shit over the beef? Don't tell me that you eat that beef. :-))HAHA. I actually went to Mcdonalds and got half a dozen burgers. Maybe they just hate MickyD's.
Wolvenvacht
03-23-13, 20:24
HAHA. I actually went to Mcdonalds and got half a dozen burgers. Maybe they just hate MickyD's.I'm sure the Thai Soi dogs are used to more spicy fare. Next time add a side-dish of som tam. :)
Which bit of advice was inaccurate. After you said I was correct?This:
"This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country."
In particular, this.
"You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country."
Is, to quote you,"inaccurate advice".
The travel clinics advised rabies shots for my stay exclusively in Bangkok.
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i was being sarcastic. however, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in thailand, is illegal. please refer to the prevention and suppression of prostitution act, b. e. 2539 (1996).
it provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on pty soi 6, or beach road, are in violation. almost all the soi 6 bars are in violation. bj bars? ya think? in fact, i suspect that the go-gos of bkk don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. it can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
a lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. but if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. so, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in los these days is illegal.afaik being a prostitute is nowhere stated to be illegal in thai law. soliciting it publicly & shamelessly is, which imples that soliciting it discreetly in public is not illegal. being in a bar quietly speaking with a single customer over a drink is more discreet than a street girl shouting out to passersby, go with you, suck & fuck, etc.
the police raids on streetwalkers in bkk & pattaya may or may not be seen to be caused due to being in violation of such solicitation. the raids could be seen entirely as an excuse to get monies for a profession that often supplements its low salary with such things, as in bribes, tea money, etc.
if the gogos pay "tea money" to law enforement (le) officers it may not necessarily be due to any violation of thai prostitution laws. there could be a number of other reasons for such payoffs related to such things as drugs, protection, **** workers, dress or show content, taxes, etc.
the customers to the prostitutes who indirectly provide income to the police fund via the hookers & related businesses seem never hassled in los unless they dabble in the **** market.
compare that to the phillipines where it is widely reported that the p4p gals work with le in scams, such as lying that a guy raped the sex worker or took nude photos of her. not that such things could not begin occurring in siam.
if a drunk customer in bangkok was shouting out loud so the whole block could hear him, asking the streetwalkers which of them will fuck him all night for 700 baht, le might be interested in dealing with him.
"prostitution is the business or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment."
it is questionable that a verbal agreement between a guy & a bar, gogo, mp or street girl for a st or lt or for an hour or overnight or to go partying or pay being "up to you" would even qualify as soliciting prostitution. especially if no specific sex services or even sex itself or a pay amount for such things is mentioned.
often i tell a sw i'll give her 1000 baht for an hour, which indicates payment for her time, not sex, so no soliciting of prostitution occurs. sometimes streetwalkers will offer potential clients walking by a massage which, if you take her up on the offer, almost always becomes quite a bit more than that back in your hotel room. again there is no solicitation involving sex.
Then what reason can you possibly have to advise somebody that vaccinations are unneccessary?
Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?
Regards,
KoI should have not intervened, because this is another controversial topic. Anyway, ask yourself, why is that asking different doctors, and looking at the recommended (none is mandatory) vaccinations from the official travel department of different countries, for a same destination, you will get different answers.
I should have not intervened, because this is another controversial topic. Anyway, ask yourself, why is that asking different doctors, and looking at the recommended (none is mandatory) vaccinations from the official travel department of different countries, for a same destination, you will get different answers.Different answers does not mean those doctors are contradicting each other. Some are just more cautious than others and throwing the baby out with the bath water should never be a way to deal with it.
Different answers does not mean those doctors are contradicting each other. Some are just more cautious than others and throwing the baby out with the bath water should never be a way to deal with it.Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.
Wolvenvacht
03-24-13, 18:52
Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.The Hepatitis A virus can be found everywhere there are unsanitary conditions, which means --indeed-- everywhere. An Hep A vaccination is something all should take, even when staying at home. Then again, Hep A has a low mortality (about 3 per 1000).
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood or semen or other bodily fluids, so you should generally be safe when practicing safe sex. On the other hand, the effects are rather bad if you catch it: liver cancer, chronic liver diseases, cyrrhosis, .
Scorchin1470
03-24-13, 19:08
Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.Ask a doctor. And for my money take the most conservative device.
The Hepatitis A virus can be found everywhere there are unsanitary conditions, which means.indeed- everywhere. An Hep A vaccination is something all should take, even when staying at home. Then again, Hep A has a low mortality (about 3 per 1000).
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood or semen or other bodily fluids, so you should generally be safe when practicing safe sex. On the other hand, the effects are rather bad if you catch it: liver cancer, chronic liver diseases, cyrrhosis, .Ok great but the question again, vaccine yes or not? Because life is about simple decisions.
Western787
03-24-13, 20:50
Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.Its a valid question.
However, most will find that vaccinations of some type (the actual quantity and precise recommended types subject to a number of variables) are generally the norm when for example one is arriving from the USA, (perhaps the same in Europe, Australia and elsewhere) , and (as a minor point) its exactly why in the movie Hangover Part 2 they were able to build a joke around this very fact.
Western787
03-24-13, 21:23
compare that to the phillipines where it is widely reported that the p4p gals work with le in scams, such as lying that a guy raped the sex worker or took nude photos of her. not that such things could not begin occurring in siam.lol, that's why i had to laugh when "aebolit" said he was first headed to manila to work his "gorgeous, young 18 to 23 year old, passionate, model types in quantity" strategy. among other things, bribing procurers to find such numerous beauties would no doubt be required when one had little if any time, but in the phils generating too much attention is very high risk. plus good luck if you ever mistake a 17 year old for an 18 year old, as merely being in the same hotel room is enough to prosecute over there. however a (especially a younger) guy who wanted to find one such outstanding gfe beauty in manila, if he was careful, watched every move, and took his time, its not a bad place, in part because a typical outsider is often viewed as a ticket out.
Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.I agree.
People should get vaccines, etc, just because. No matter where they are or live. But not just because they are coming to Thailand.
I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.
Crazy4Thai
03-25-13, 03:04
SNIP.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.I've been living in LOS for 7 years now. I was surfing the USA sex guide site looking at pics of providers the other day, just looking. For a 1 week period over 1000 pics posted (many repeats though). I only saw a very few that I would do and I'm not so fussy as some on this board. I am SO glad I'm not limited to those choices.
LOL, that's why I had to laugh when "Aebolit" said he was first headed to Manila to work his "gorgeous, young 18 to 23 year old, passionate, model types in quantity" strategy. Among other things, bribing procurers to find such numerous beauties would no doubt be required when one had little if any time, but in the Phils generating too much attention is very high risk. Plus good luck if you ever mistake a 17 year old for an 18 year old, as merely being in the same hotel room is enough to prosecute over there. However a (especially a younger) guy who wanted to find ONE such outstanding GFE beauty in Manila, if he was careful, watched every move, and took his time, its not a bad place, in part because a typical outsider is often viewed as a ticket out.These are valid points.
I've read a report alleging that in Thailand LE have to catch the guy in the physical act with the "mistaken" lady you refer to, unlike in the PI where it is as you stated.
In Thailand you don't have to pay a bar, gogo, MP or SW girl for sex. After the deed is done you can secretly slip some paper in her bag with money for sex (prostitution) never even being mentioned. Who's to say you weren't paying her for her time whether a short time or a long time, or to leave, or you're just a generous guy, etc? Or you hand her a number of baht before she leaves for taxi, to eat, shopping, baby, bills or whatever, anything but banging her. Who can prove it was for anything else, even if a hidden police audio video device recorded their entire time together?
I have yet to pay for sex in Siam. It's always been free. Isn't that why it's called LOS.
Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.So there you are in Thailand. In your hotel needing to go out and find a girl. You round the corner and don't see the dogs tail poking out from under whatever and you step on it. The dog instinctively, like lightning, swerves around and bites you, then the scared sick-looking thing with all his ribs showing goes hauling off so you can't see or track him. What ya going to do? Rumor is dogs like this prefer to eat shit over cooked beef.
Then you leave for dinner for some sit down place because you don't want to get sick from some street vendors food. The place you eat at looks clean though the one of staff is unknowingly sick with Hep A, contaminates your food, and you don't discover anything wrong until months later. You realize you don't have any energy anymore and go in for a checkup.
How about a condom breaking when back dooring some girl and neither you or the girl notice it right off?
All these are things you should worry about. I say you should get every vaccination that is out there even if you were mongering at home. It is the most responsible thing any monger should do to protect himself. Not doing it I think is just plain silly.
I did Hep A and B about 15 years ago. I have been thinking about getting retested for the antibodies after such a long time.
SailSingapore
03-25-13, 04:34
I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.Hahhaahaha! Am SoCal bred. Did many many co-ed's for free during me UCLA days. Have NEVER done P4P in SoCal. Yet. AND NEVER WILL after your FR Sir!
Member #4414
03-25-13, 06:04
Ok great but the question again, vaccine yes or not?Of all the various travel vaccinations you can get, the Hep ones are the basic foundation (IMO).
Along with Mosquito Bite prevention, you certainly can't go wrong with those at least.
Once travelling in more remote regions, or ones with specific issues, you can expand beyond that foundation.
One of my Indonesian friends got Hepatitis once, travelling (probably from drinking untreated water).
He never bothered with any kind of travel vaccinations. Yellow Skin & Eyeballs & Major Weight Loss. Nasty!
These poor souls didn't even get to wet their wistle.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/health/oklahoma-dental-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
For those who want to know. If you are born and bred in the West, US, Canada and 1st world countries it is best to get the recommended vaccinations as you have never been exposed to the germs of SE Asia. However, Hepatitis is always recommended for all.
Scorchin1470
03-29-13, 18:03
For those who want to know. If you are born and bred in the West, US, Canada and 1st world countries it is best to get the recommended vaccinations as you have never been exposed to the germs of SE Asia. However, Hepatitis is always recommended for all.Unless you area qualified medical doctor with expertise in tropical medicine I suggest you do what all the sensible people do . Go see a doctor with experience in tropical medicine. At least their advice is backed by proper technical input.
What is more your advice is not based on medical fact. Irrespective of where you are born you do not have immunity from "the germs of SE Asia" for which inoculations are required / recommended.
.What is more your advice is not based on medical fact. Irrespective of where you are born you do not have immunity from "the germs of SE Asia" for which inoculations are required / recommended.Yes, it is based on a medical fact. Go research it. US is so sanitized that the people from there are very susceptible to the diseases of an new place. What do you think happened to the native folks when the Europeans colonized the Americas.
Scorchin1470
03-30-13, 17:43
Yes, it is based on a medical fact. Go research it. US is so sanitized that the people from there are very susceptible to the diseases of an new place. What do you think happened to the native folks when the Europeans colonized the Americas.Between problems caused by lack of immunity to local germs which cause D and V and diseases that all get irrespective of where they live / come from- eg hepatitis. Malaria.
Your example is irrelevant and has nothing to the with locally built up bacterial disease resistance.
But then you are not a doctor and any non-medic who states 'facts' is usually relying on Wikapedia, which is usually written by the ignorant for the less ignorant.
Here I thought the generous colonizers gave them prime land and the right to build casinos on it. Guess I need to review my USA histiory.
Tony Hoeprano
03-31-13, 05:00
I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.LOL. Why not conserve your money shots until you arrive in LOS. Hahahahahhaaha
Hilarious. I thought the OC had plenty of Vietnamese sexy massage girls? LOL
SailSingapore
03-31-13, 05:51
LOL. Why not conserve your money shots until you arrive in LOS. Hahahahahhaaha
Hilarious. I thought the OC had plenty of Vietnamese sexy massage girls? LOLSpecifically GARDEN GROVE. Little Hanoi in OC!
By the way I told the girl NO you don't smell down there. While I almost had a headache from the smell.Its cruel to be kind.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand Driving
Another one fell for it being 01 April. AKA April Fool's day.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand Driving
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand DrivingTrue indeed, set date is April 1, 2014 for trucks and buses. Followed by cars one week later, if all goes well.
True indeed, set date is April 1, 2014 for trucks and buses. Followed by cars one week later, if all goes well.So when do they change all the road signs to the other side of the road.
Do you know that more Americans get into pedestrian accidents at London airports upon arrival than at any other time in GB. They don't know which way to look crossing the street. There are going to be a lot of hurt Thai's. And head on crashes from drunks forgetting about the switch.
So when do they change all the road signs to the other side of the road.Breaking news from cable channel 69, PM Yingluck said this official date will be pushed back to 29 Feb 2014.
So when do they change all the road signs to the other side of the road.Recommend that you join the discussion on Thaivisa. It seriously needs your wise contribution, and you will be in great company.
Hi, We will be in BKK and then south for a week, my girlfriend and me (40s yrsold) in two weeks. We would like to find a cute fun thin girl, or couple to have fun for few days, or even to come on a trip with us. I know most Thai girl do not want to go with another girl, like me I do not want to go with another guy. But any idea anyone? Fun place to go for couple?
Thanks in advance.
Hi, We will be in BKK and then south for a week, my girlfriend and me (40s yrsold) in two weeks. We would like to find a cute fun thin girl, or couple to have fun for few days, or even to come on a trip with us. I know most Thai girl do not want to go with another girl, like me I do not want to go with another guy. But any idea anyone? Fun place to go for couple?
Thanks in advance.I am here and can arrange. Is your GF model quality and does she take it in the ASS?
Paul Kausch
04-03-13, 03:42
Hi, We will be in BKK and then south for a week, my girlfriend and me (40s yrsold) in two weeks. We would like to find a cute fun thin girl, or couple to have fun for few days, or even to come on a trip with us. I know most Thai girl do not want to go with another girl, like me I do not want to go with another guy. But any idea anyone? Fun place to go for couple?
Thanks in advance.Try the MPs and escort agencies. Some of their girls will provide couple services. For example, Annie's #28's profile states she,"offers some couple's service ask for details."
Since my 20 year old roll on bag (with garment sleeve) is giving up the ghost, I am in the process of replacing it. I need a replacement that will at least take one suit for my business travel. Does any one on the forum have any suggestions on a make or model as a replacement? There seems to be a ton of 20" and 22" roll on bags available in price range from $40 to $400, but few with a garment sleeve now days.
Aside from buying one here in the US, some folks have suggested looking for one in Bangkok at the MBK center and Pratunam. This kind of makes sense, because a lot of the roll on bags are made in Thailand. If anyone out there has had any success in this respect, can you let me know the specifics as to where you found it, the retailer, the price, the type and quality of bag you got.
Thanks for your comments and recommendations.
So when do they change all the road signs to the other side of the road.
Do you know that more Americans get into pedestrian accidents at London airports upon arrival than at any other time in GB. They don't know which way to look crossing the street. There are going to be a lot of hurt Thai's. And head on crashes from drunks forgetting about the switch.As mentioned: truck and buses signs wil change the same day as the vehicles will start going the other side (1/4/14).
Car and pedestrians signs will change one week later, as they will conform to the new rules, as stated before.
Americans should be more careful when crossing runaways in airports as planes might come either from right or from left, depends on wind direction in that particular moment.
If you notice the sign shows two planes coming from both direction (some think it is a suggestion to pilots to crash into each other, but this is only an american theory).
It helps a lot in wetting your forefinger (maybe in a wet pussy, if available nearby) and test it to the wind to get the wind direction. An old trick invented in Europe.
I am wondering how the rest of the world passengers cope by not having pedestrian accidents in London airports? Might this mean they are a bit smarter and clever? Just thinking loud.
Or maybe they have noticed there are no roads to be crossed. Unless you want to go into the M4. Then I suggest a bit of care, indeed.
Is it possible and legal to buy an unlocked smart phone (iphone 5 or Samsung 3 or 4) in Thailand to use there and then bring it back to use in the US? If so, what are the prices for the phones? I usually buy a cheap phone when in Thailand or other countries and then most times give them away when I leave.
Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
Is it possible and legal to buy an unlocked smart phone (iphone 5 or Samsung 3 or 4) in Thailand to use there and then bring it back to use in the US? If so, what are the prices for the phones? I usually buy a cheap phone when in Thailand or other countries and then most times give them away when I leave.
Any input would be appreciated. ThanksJust buy a Nexus 4 from Google for $300. It's already unlocked and can be used in Thailand or anywhere else for that matter.
To answer one of your questions, yes it's legal.
Just buy a Nexus 4 from Google for $300. It's already unlocked and can be used in Thailand or anywhere else for that matter.
To answer one of your questions, yes it's legal.Thanks for your reply. The Nexus looks good and I may get one of those. However, still hoping someone will know latest prices in Thailand for iphone 5 w16 GB and the Samsungs. My google search showed they are quite pricey there.
Mr Enternational
04-06-13, 03:54
Everything is the same price that you would buy it in the states for except it would already be unlocked. No problem unlocking a phone in the States these days. Just call them and they wil send you the code immediately. Where the problem lies in the States is that only T-Mobile and AT&T have phones that use SIM cards. So if you have another carrier, buying an unlocked phone won't do you any good when you get back home anyway.
Thanks for your reply. The Nexus looks good and I may get one of those. However, still hoping someone will know latest prices in Thailand for iphone 5 w16 GB and the Samsungs. My google search showed they are quite pricey there.
Mr Enternational
04-06-13, 19:56
I'll be in BKK in June 14-17 and was a debating a day trip to Pattya. Haven't been there since 1989. Is it worth it?That is a personal decision. If I had not been to a place since 1989 then I would definitely want to check it out to see how it has changed. If you do, then write a report afterwards to let us know how it turned out.
everything is the same price that you would buy it in the states for except it would already be unlocked. no problem unlocking a phone in the states these days. just call them and they wil send you the code immediately. where the problem lies in the states is that only t-mobile and at&t have phones that use sim cards. so if you have another carrier, buying an unlocked phone won't do you any good when you get back home anyway.i currently use straighttalk. the problem there is that the only good smart phones they offer are the iphones and i was told by a walmart employee that they can't be used outside of the us due to being locked. i will have to call them and see if i get one of their iphones if it can be used outside the us. i hate to admit it, but this will be my first smart phone so i am not up to speed on everything related to this stuff yet. net10 is similar and also owned by the same company and they will accept an unlocked gsm phone, so i may just get the nexus 4 and go with them.
thanks for your input.
I'll be in BKK in June 14-17 and was a debating a day trip to Pattya.
Haven't been there since 1989.
Is it worth it?
I will have every piece of ass at my disposal in BKK.
Also, if any of you know of any great GFE girls for 24 hours, let me know.
I'll wine her, dine her and take her shopping as well.
Looking for top shelf hot, not wornout gogo girl and definitely no SW.
PM me.
Thanks,
JimI am here now and thinking it is better than ever. Not too crowded really and plenty of girls. If you do try, come the night before and walk around and if you know where to go it will be easy as pie to find a 24 hour shag.
But you sound very particular, so good luck finding what you want if you have limited time. I am with a SW extremely cute and fresh from Isaan now and for the past 2 days, and having one of my best times of my life. One of the best GFE ever. Check out her ass in the Pattaya section. But, I am sure someone will PM you with info. on the model quality girl you are seeking. HAHAHAHAHA.
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I will have every piece of ass at my disposal in BKK.
Also, if any of you know of any great GFE girls for 24 hours, let me know. JimWell, which one is it? If you have every piece of ass at your disposal why do you need ask for a GFE ass? Getting tired of same sex ass?
Ok, you guys got me on this one.
I took it today just for fun. It is very efficient and took 45 mins from Nana to airport. Just the one transfer at Phaya Thai.
It just looked like you may have to pull you luggage up or down stairs at PT stop. But maybe elevator I did not see.
Other than that, what a great alternative for less than 100 B.
45 mins?
Did you wait? Or ride a non express.
Seemed to me I was there in no time
Ok, you guys got me on this one.
I took it today just for fun. It is very efficient and took 45 mins from Nana to airport. Just the one transfer at Phaya Thai.
It just looked like you may have to pull you luggage up or down stairs at PT stop. But maybe elevator I did not see.
Other than that, what a great alternative for less than 100 B.I'm sure I have seen an elevator at Phaya Thai.
Regards,
BJ
45 mins?
Did you wait? Or ride a non express.
Seemed to me I was there in no timeYes.
I paid for the express, but it was delayed. Took the normal route which still ain't bad. I think the express would cut about 10-12 minutes off.
the past 11 days were awesome. at the airport now to head home unfortunately.
i think this place is better than ever. girls were great, prices still good. everything was super. eating, drinking, getting massages, going to the movies, and fucking. what a place.
never had any problems or terrible service. many nice gfe's.
my total was 25 fucks and 2 bbbj's (bliss and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s). the highlight was my lt for 2 days in pattaya.
already planning my trip for june.
if any of you are in town next week, good luck with songkran.
remember:
cum one.
cum all.
cum in pussy!
Scorchin1470
04-10-13, 16:49
The past 11 days were awesome. At the airport now to head home unfortunately.
I think this place is better than ever. Girls were great, prices still good. Everything was super. Eating, drinking, getting massages, going to the movies, and fucking. What a place.
Never had any problems or terrible service. Many nice GFE's.Thank you for dispelling the myth that Bangkok isa disaster for punting (and eating, drinking and getting massages). Too many posters revel in tales of long gone days.
And seem never to have moved out of the Vietnam time warp.
Bangkok was great in the 80s and is still great 30+ years later.
Dextro Sol
04-10-13, 21:02
Going to BKK and propably Patts in may. I will go to mp:s, SOL, Beergarden, maybe I will give Annies a try and also try some SW:s. Normally I am a jeans and t-shirt / tennis shirt person. When I have been in BKK before I usually wear nice knee long shorts or what we call pirate jeans, that is semi long jeans a little bit under knee.
Do you think the girls / women look me down wearin this style?
You guys who go here often, what do you wear normally?
Mr Enternational
04-10-13, 22:02
What that means is that in BKK I will have plenty of ass at my disposal. Is a trip to Pattya worth it, with all the ass in BKK.By that logic I should never leave my hometown because I have plenty of women at my disposal there. There are women everywhere. It's always worth it to see new places. Besides you are not going to fuck 24 hours / day. It's PattAya by the way.
Since I can't bang 24/7 where do you guys suggest I go to buy fake purses (gifts) , fake men's designer sunglasses, toys, and iPhone cases. I will be there in 3 weeks and I was told the MBK but are there any other or better places to go?
Thanks in advance,
Wolvenvacht
04-10-13, 23:27
Going to BKK and propably Patts in may. I will go to mp:s, SOL, Beergarden, maybe I will give Annies a try and also try some SW:s. Normally I am a jeans and t-shirt / tennis shirt person. When I have been in BKK before I usually wear nice knee long shorts or what we call pirate jeans, that is semi long jeans a little bit under knee.
Do you think the girls / women look me down wearin this style?
You guys who go here often, what do you wear normally?MPs: dress does not really count. You see people wearing all kinds of dress.
Agogo clubs: I usually wear full length trousers and a shirt.
Most important is that your clothes are clean and they do not look you have been sleeping in them for the past week.
Going to BKK and propably Patts in may. I will go to mp:s, SOL, Beergarden, maybe I will give Annies a try and also try some SW:s. Normally I am a jeans and t-shirt / tennis shirt person. When I have been in BKK before I usually wear nice knee long shorts or what we call pirate jeans, that is semi long jeans a little bit under knee.
Do you think the girls / women look me down wearin this style?
You guys who go here often, what do you wear normally?I have spent about a total of 80 days in Thailand in 3 trips, so I am not the expert. However, I wear shorts usually at the knee or a little above and T-shirt or nice short sleeve shirt. I have never worn long pants even though I always bring some with me. I have been in the Beergarten and NANA and other places including various massage joints and always had ladies trying to get me to take them. It's more about money than fancy clothes. I also have observed a lot of other guys and most dress in similar attire. I also have to say that I have never been to any high end night clubs, so there may be some dress codes there. Maybe some residents will post with more details. I can also say from my experience that Patts is much more casual than Bangkok.
If you have been there before, did you have issues with ladies not wanting to go with you? I don't think you need to be too concerned about your clothes, just have money and have fun.
Since I can't bang 24/7 where do you guys suggest I go to buy fake purses (gifts) , fake men's designer sunglasses, toys, and iPhone cases. I will be there in 3 weeks and I was told the MBK but are there any other or better places to go?
Thanks in advance, Try Pantip Plaza or the sidewalk vendors in lower Sukhumvit.
Member #4387
04-11-13, 00:32
Going to BKK and propably Patts in may. I will go to mp:s, SOL, Beergarden, maybe I will give Annies a try and also try some SW:s. Normally I am a jeans and t-shirt / tennis shirt person. When I have been in BKK before I usually wear nice knee long shorts or what we call pirate jeans, that is semi long jeans a little bit under knee.
Do you think the girls / women look me down wearin this style?
You guys who go here often, what do you wear normally?I am no expert but have flown in and out of BKK quite a lot the last 7 years and for mongering around in various bars and go go`s no dresscode is demanded as far as I know. I wear like you some pirates and a decent t-shirt walking around in BKK daytime, afternoon and early eve. I am not a big go go, mp visitor or a barfiner for that matter but I have been around enough to atleast see there isn`t such thing as a exact dresscode.
I am more familiour with the big high end nightclubs and if it is not an exact dresscode you will sure feel lonely in flip flops and a colourful bermuda. By high end nightclubs I speak of Demo, Narz, Slim&Fix, Levels (atleast a new hangout place) and so on. Here I have only seen people in cool fashion clothes and I believe that's the unwritten code. For more mongerpeople hangouts clubwice as in Climax, Shock69, Infinity and so on I see some people in rather shabby outfits and even if it is in places like this mostly freelancegirls I believe a nice casual dresscode will be to your benefit while interact with these girls (as they can choose due to the female / male rate).
As for me in nightclubs I change into new t-shirt, decent jeans and a nice pair of nice shoes. Atleast I do fine in many ways dressing like this and I also feel ok wearing nice clothes. But I guess everyone decide for themself. This is not an exact science.
Since I can't bang 24/7 where do you guys suggest I go to buy fake purses (gifts) , fake men's designer sunglasses, toys, and iPhone cases. I will be there in 3 weeks and I was told the MBK but are there any other or better places to go? Thanks in advance,Have you ever tried in being paid with fake money?
Going to BKK and propably Patts in may. I will go to mp:s, SOL, Beergarden, maybe I will give Annies a try and also try some SW:s. Normally I am a jeans and t-shirt / tennis shirt person. When I have been in BKK before I usually wear nice knee long shorts or what we call pirate jeans, that is semi long jeans a little bit under knee.
Do you think the girls / women look me down wearin this style?
You guys who go here often, what do you wear normally?If you want to look like a complete dick, by all means run around BKK in shorts, sandals and a too-tight "I Love Thailand" t-shirt. Extra points will be given for a backwards baseball cap.
The locals won't say anything to your face, but they do have a name for the guys who dress like this.
Look around and, generally speaking, the only locals wearing shorts in BKK are the very poorest laborers. You'll find that you will get a bit more respect (for lack of a better word) if you go around in jeans and a button-up shirt. Slacks and collared shirt at the higher end establishments are an even better idea.
The girls in the go-gos and MPs won't care much, but you won't be in them 100% of the time. Oh, and do NOT run around shirtless.
Now Pattaya is a beach city, and beach attire is the norm. You'll look really out of place in slacks and a shirt. Not unwelcome, just out of place.
Member #4414
04-11-13, 03:56
i you'll find that you will get a bit more respect (for lack of a better word) if you go around in jeans and a button-up shirt.in reality? or just the idea in your mind that you're being respected more?
in some countries i agree it makes a big difference how you dress.
i'm not 'fully' convinced that thailand is one of those.
to me, me findings in many countries is that our attitude is the deciding factor for locals.
we may be dressed like a **** boy, but if we interact in a polite way this seems to be key.
although i accept that for some things (embassies, other official places) it's time to ditch the holiday gear.
oh, and do not run around shirtless.agreed 100% on that. it even seems bizzare to even see it on ko samui, away from the beaches.
(also saw one russian girl wearing a bikini while walking around in tesco lotus. lol)
If you want to look like a complete dick, by all means run around BKK in shorts, sandals and a too-tight "I Love Thailand" t-shirt. Extra points will be given for a backwards baseball cap.
The locals won't say anything to your face, but they do have a name for the guys who dress like this.
Look around and, generally speaking, the only locals wearing shorts in BKK are the very poorest laborers. You'll find that you will get a bit more respect (for lack of a better word) if you go around in jeans and a button-up shirt. Slacks and collared shirt at the higher end establishments are an even better idea.
The girls in the go-gos and MPs won't care much, but you won't be in them 100% of the time. Oh, and do NOT run around shirtless.
Now Pattaya is a beach city, and beach attire is the norm. You'll look really out of place in slacks and a shirt. Not unwelcome, just out of place.To each their own on this, but I think you give good advice. In fact I never wear shorts in BKK. Nice jeans and a collared shirt. That is just me.
In Pats more casual with nice shorts, but always a collared shirt.
Everyone is different, but I suggest you don't wear a too tight t-shirt that has some fucked up logo on it, jean shorts, and sandals with high socks?
I see dudes with this and they wonder why girls won't go with them.
It is all about the money, but if you look like you don't have any then expect the end result. It may all sound stupid to some trying to look nice for a $17 fuck. But, I think most guys who do have better luck.
Also, my experience is that Thai girls do not like facial hair. Especially a 2 or 3 day growth. They don't like to kiss that or have it on their pussy.
Yes, we all know most of these girls are impoverished. But, they can spot what in their thinking is a loser. Use good common sense and don't look like one and be nice to them. A GFE is easier to catch this way I think.
Just my opinion.
PS: One other thing. They are hookers, but no matter where they come from they do not seem to like a dirty mouth. Swearing with them gets you nowhere.
Member #4414
04-11-13, 06:18
Also, my experience is that Thai girls do not like facial hair.That's true, but then their culture (and other parts Eastern Asia) seems to idolise feminine looking males in the various forms of media so it's more to do with cultural conditioning really. Infact, the same could be said of Western Culture increasingly now. In Thailand when mongering, as you say, it's all about the money anyway so it doesn't matter if we're just going to working Girls.
On one visit to Thailand I arrived with a wild Beard that was from the 10 Commandments, and other times with no facial hair, or light stubble. Observations were it didn't seem to make the slightest difference to purchasing success, prices, attitude or the age group that I ended up having sex with on those various visits. What they seem to like and remember is my overall personality first and foremost, and tend to remember things like the eyes, from my experience. Reading the eyes is something I find they do a lot.
I appreciate it certainly would matter if I was trying to date a 'civvie' so to speak, in Thailand, due to the prevailing preference in the culture but I'm not prepared to completely change my appearance in a major way just to appease Working Girl's preferences.
But that's just me.
Paul Kausch
04-11-13, 07:17
If you want to look like a complete dick, by all means run around BKK in shorts, sandals and a too-tight "I Love Thailand" t-shirt. Extra points will be given for a backwards baseball cap.
To each their own on this, but I think you give good advice. In fact I never wear shorts in BKK. Nice jeans and a collared shirt. That is just me.Slacks, a nice looking shirt with A collar, good grooming and a pleasant manner go a long way in Bangkok. All Thais, not just the SW respond positively to people who take pride in their appearance. Read a few articles on Thai culture. Thais are a very class conscious people. If you look like a "better class of person" they will treat you as such.
Everyone is different, but I suggest you don't wear a too tight t-shirt that has some fucked up logo on it, jean shorts, and sandals with high socks?The high socks part is more favoured by German tourists. This is a joke and not an indication of racism.
Regards,
BJ
Western787
04-11-13, 10:05
That was pretty funny LP. My favorite Blonde joke.ANOTHER GOOD BLONDE JOKE.
A blind man enters a Ladies Bar by mistake.
He finds his way to a barstool and orders a drink.
After sitting there for a while, he yells to the bartender,"Hey, you want to hear a blonde joke?" The bar immediately falls absolutely quiet.
In a very deep, husky voice, the woman next to him says,"Before you tell that joke, sir, I think its fair given that you are blind, you should know five things."
1. The bartender is a blonde woman.
2. The bouncer is a blonde woman.
3. I'm a 6 feet tall. 220 lb. Blonde woman with a black belt in karate.
4. The woman sitting next to me is blonde and a professional weightlifter.
5. The lady to your right is a blonde and a professional wrestler.
Now think about it seriously, Mister. Do you still want to tell that joke?
The blind man thinks for a second, shakes his head, and declares,"Nah, not if I'm going to have to explain it five times."
To each their own on this, but I think you give good advice. In fact I never wear shorts in BKK. Nice jeans and a collared shirt. That is just me.
In Pats more casual with nice shorts, but always a collared shirt.
Everyone is different, but I suggest you don't wear a too tight t-shirt that has some fucked up logo on it, jean shorts, and sandals with high socks?
I see dudes with this and they wonder why girls won't go with them.
It is all about the money, but if you look like you don't have any then expect the end result. It may all sound stupid to some trying to look nice for a $17 fuck. But, I think most guys who do have better luck.
Also, my experience is that Thai girls do not like facial hair. Especially a 2 or 3 day growth. They don't like to kiss that or have it on their pussy.
Yes, we all know most of these girls are impoverished. But, they can spot what in their thinking is a loser. Use good common sense and don't look like one and be nice to them. A GFE is easier to catch this way I think.
Just my opinion.
PS: One other thing. They are hookers, but no matter where they come from they do not seem to like a dirty mouth. Swearing with them gets you nowhere.I think your statement about long pants is not the norm for most farangs. At least from what I have seen being in the places I stated in my earlier post. I agree with the part about sandals with socks. How gross! I also agree about some ragged and filthy looking shorts and shirts. I have heard ladies talking about guys who look like filth and who stink. Even with money, not many ladies would go with them. I think what the OP described would not have any impact on his ability to get ladies who would be very happy to accompany him. At least that is what I have experienced having never worn long pants in Thailand.
Now about the beard. Have you ever been there with a full beard? You make a blanket statement that just is not the fact. I have been there with a full beard (well trimmed) and not. I agree that Thai's in general do not like facial hair, but not all. I had women from bars chasing me down the streets many times to get me to take them and sometimes I did due to their enthusiasm. Also there are some who actually like it. I know because they told me so. One lady I took said her father had a mustache and she liked facial hair. Occasionally I would get some who wouldn't want to go with me, but that was so rare that it wasn't even an issue for me. There were always many more who would. A few told me that I am very handsum man, but I would be more handsum if I shaved. Yet they still wanted to go with me. I only took one lady who played the no kissing game with me in the room, but in the bar she was DFKing me like long lost lovers. I booted her out and she gave me my BF money back before she left or I was going back to the bar with her to get it.
Member #4414
04-12-13, 02:45
the past 11 days were awesome.
my total was 25 fucks and 2 bbbj's (bliss and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s).25 in 11 days? like achilles, son of peleus,"i'll remember the name"
maybe it is just me but for two weeks you'll find me like a horny goat foaming at the mouth doing it every day twice or more a day, and then a week or more where everything eases off considerably. occasionally i've slept with girls during those times as a one off, but it really is a 'can take it or leave it' situation. if the 'porn' mind isn't keen on that, my wallet loves it during those 'down times'.
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Also there are some who actually like it. I know because they told me so. One lady I took said her father had a mustache and she liked facial hair. Occasionally I would get some who wouldn't want to go with me, but that was so rare that it wasn't even an issue for me. There were always many more who would. A few told me that I am very handsum man, but I would be more handsum if I shaved. Yet they still wanted to go with me. I only took one lady who played the no kissing game with me in the room, but in the bar she was DFKing me like long lost lovers. I booted her out and she gave me my BF money back before she left or I was going back to the bar with her to get it.I just want to point out just because they say they like something doesn't mean they actually like it. I'm fat and hairy and guess what, ladies say they like that as well,"So sexy".
They are good at telling customers what they want to hear.
I have no doubt at all, though, that plenty of women will go with guys with beards. It's the money they like.
Which guys a girl will go with depends greatly on the girl's financial situation at the moment. Some really cute girls have no problems getting men, so they can be a bit more picky.
Specifically regarding facial hair, it may just limit what activities one can do with the girl. The other night, I had a 1. 5 day old growth, and after I was done, I saw the girl had a red upper lip from my stubble. While kissing her, at no time did I think I was causing her trouble, but it was obvious that there was some irritation. The same is true of DATY. I was going down on one girl, and was having fun when I rubbed her the wrong way, so to speak, and that was it. In that case, I believe it was her stubble, not mine because I had shaved recently. I think it had more to do with my technique in comparison to her girlfriend's.
in reality? or just the idea in your mind that you're being respected more?
in some countries i agree it makes a big difference how you dress.
i'm not 'fully' convinced that thailand is one of those.
to me, me findings in many countries is that our attitude is the deciding factor for locals.
we may be dressed like a **** boy, but if we interact in a polite way this seems to be key.
although i accept that for some things (embassies, other official places) it's time to ditch the holiday gear.
agreed 100% on that. it even seems bizzare to even see it on ko samui, away from the beaches.
(also saw one russian girl wearing a bikini while walking around in tesco lotus. lol) yes, in reality. it's often subtle, but it's there.
if you show up in bkk in shorts, t-shirt and flip flops you're branded a sex tourist. rightly or wrongly. as mr. k pointed out, th is a very class conscious society and a dude dressed like this is obviously low class. now if you're going to spend 100% of your time in hooker bars, you can practically run around naked.
having said all this, obviously tit, and there is always lots of "it depends." there are times in bkk when shorts are fine. i am not an expert in all the cultural nuances. i often take dress cues from my middle-class gf. we both take pains to ensure i don't look like the typical farang kee nok. when traveling upcountry, she insists shorts are fine if the weather is hot. in bkk, sometimes it's ok, sometimes not.
so, not to belabor the point, but i think it's a good idea to develop a general rule. in bkk long pants and collared shirt, politeness and cleanliness, go a long way. so, unless circumstances dictate otherwise (songkran come to mind), this general rule will work well. you can generally go anywhere and do anything and not feel out of place.
FreebieFan
04-12-13, 06:15
That's true, but then their culture (and other parts Eastern Asia) seems to idolise feminine looking males in the various forms of media. In Thailand when mongering, as you say, it's all about the money anyway so it doesn't matter if we're just going to working Girls.To help things along with the girl of your choice, you could carry her handbag like the pussyboys in Singapore do.
Always had to laugh when the gal packed her Hermes Birkin bag (about the size of an ocean liner) and asked her sweet pussy boyfriend to carry it for her all day.
But then these pussyboys seem to attract some nice gals so maybe theres method in the madness.
Western787
04-12-13, 16:56
Slacks, a nice looking shirt with A collar, good grooming and a pleasant manner go a long way in Bangkok. All Thais, not just the SW respond positively to people who take pride in their appearance. Read a few articles on Thai culture. Thais are a very class conscious people. If you look like a "better class of person" they will treat you as such.Americans and Brits for years had a built in advantage with beautiful asian women, as they were often given the attributes and images created in the studio backlots of Hollywood and Pinewood, but while today the model with the younger girls is now changing to a more eastern (male) centric focus, the western legacy is still there. Dress like this and you can work the Coconut Bar or any upscale club in Bangkok, its a universal dress code http://geekoverture.com/files/2012/07/BOND.jpg
Dextro Sol
04-12-13, 19:45
Thank you guys for all input about my question about dresscode.
I agree with most of you about long pants, for me I prefer jeans. I also think a nice short arm shirt or tennis shirt (sua polo in thai) would be ok. I saw some of you were joking about shoes. What is ok and not about shoes. Sandals without socks, is that ok? Or is it only shoes and socks that counts?
A few years ago I was with a pretty classy hooker for a few days in BKK. She told me that this is my holiday, not work, so I should really dress in those pirate jeans I use to. Maybe its a bit different to visit SOL daytime and nana plaza in night time.
Paul Kausch
04-13-13, 00:22
Americans and Brits for years had a built in advantage with beautiful asian women, as they were often given the attributes and images created in the studio backlots of Hollywood and Pinewood, but while today the model with the younger girls is now changing to a more eastern (male) centric focus, the western legacy is still there. Dress like this and you can work the Coconut Bar or any upscale club in Bangkok, its a universal dress code.
http://geekoverture.com/files/2012/07/BOND.jpgYes, and Caucasian facial features and fairer complexion are coveted; and many Asian women who can afford it subject themselves to cosmetic procedures to acquire these attributes.
Member #4414
04-13-13, 05:12
We both take pains to ensure I don't look like the typical Farang kee nok. Going by the general feedback from expats, I get the impression (perhaps wrongly) that foreigners (either short term visitors or those living in the country) are ultimately classified as 'Barbarians from over the sea', regardless of what we do, because it boils down to us simply not being Thai. Maybe that isn't the case, but I do wonder how effective it really is to attempt to win their favour in varoious ways. It seems that most people around the world do warm to foreigners over time, after having known them personally on a daily basis. For short visits and every day encounters with strangers, I just question if it really makes as big a difference as believed. Having said that, it can only be true that people will make snap judgements about people's based on clothing and categorize them based on this. After all, it's exactly the same in Britain, which has this operating at a very strong level too.
politeness and CLEANLINESS, go a long way.Both those more than anything else seem to be 'immediately' effective, I agree.
.you could carry her handbag like the pussyboys in Singapore do.Hi. Well, it was mentioned in most post really just to point it out, as to why it seems facial hair is not liked as much in east asia. In some ways I find the more gentle personality of some Thai males to be far more relaxing to be around than many males in my country (Britain) and societys like Russia, who feel this need to 'exhibit' 'manliness' at each and every opportunity to onlookers.
Wolvenvacht
04-13-13, 07:20
Thank you guys for all input about my question about dresscode.
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I saw some of you were joking about shoes. What is ok and not about shoes. Sandals without socks, is that ok? Or is it only shoes and socks that counts?Sandals with nice clothes seem rather strange. I always wear light tan colored canvas combat boots. I never got any complaints anywhere and they give me good traction on the treacherous sidewalks of Bangkok. But then again, I never go to discos and do not dance. Add a light khaki colored pair of cargo pants and a ditto collared shirt with rolled up sleeves and shoulder straps, it looks somewhat like a retired army officer (which is not even too far off the truth). You know how much the Thai like rank, authority and class: at my age any little advantage I get to appeal to the Thai ladies, is a good thing. ;)
A few years ago I was with a pretty classy hooker for a few days in BKK. She told me that this is my holiday, not work, so I should really dress in those pirate jeans I use to. Maybe its a bit different to visit SOL daytime and nana plaza in night time.I'm sure you can waltz into SOL in any kind of dress or undress and they wouldn't blink an eye.
Where can travellers cheques be purchased in Bangkok near to NEP?
I get a kick out of the complaints on here.
I went back to 2007 and the same BS was going on then.
You could put those posts in today and it would seem current.
How Thailand is a shell of it's former self.
Guys complaining all the Arabs and tourists.
Complaining about 600 B BF and 1500 B ST 2500 B LT and paying 4000 B at soapies.
How the girls attitudes are bad.
Review some of the posts and the prices the girls are asking are basically the same.
Yeah, I know the dollar has slid. But the girls don't care about that shit.
I am sure 1975 was different. OK, a loaf of bread was 19 cents then and my house cost me $30,000 and is now worth $500,000.
For the "overall" vacation and mongering experience, Thailand is still the best spot in the world in my opinion.
Scorchin1470
04-13-13, 22:45
If I read the data correctly the thai baht was 25 to the US$ and 44 to the GBP in 1990. Not much different today.
Member #4414
04-14-13, 03:23
I get a kick out of the complaints on here.I went back to 2007 and the same BS was going on then.I kind of agree about some complaints, and how easy it is to slide into the mindset. Recently I went way back in the archives for several areas of the country here around 2003 and yes the same kind of comments were doing the rounds back then about a decline in quality of girls, etc etc, posted by people during the days I today feel were the better times, so it puts everything into perspective really. Having said that, there are some things which to me are undeniable, such as far fewer of the younger and pretty ones entering the arena now, less enthusiasm in 'catching customer' now. Young, Pretty and Enthusiastic can still be found (luckily, or I'd be out of here already) in the offerings, but not as immediately visible as before when browsing. I also find myself spending far more here than ever before, each day. To sum it up, yes still an enjoyable place to holiday (great food, great beaches, and a general 'live and let live' view of foreigner's antics) but has now started to outprice me if I want to treat myself.
For the "overall" vacation and mongering experience, Thailand is still the best spot in the world in my opinion.For 'overall' vacation, yes I agree. For mongering though, we may be witnessing the twilight years. We'll see.
I get a kick out of the complaints on here.
I went back to 2007 and the same BS was going on then.
You could put those posts in today and it would seem current.
How Thailand is a shell of it's former self.
Guys complaining all the Arabs and tourists.
Complaining about 600 B BF and 1500 B ST 2500 B LT and paying 4000 B at soapies.
How the girls attitudes are bad.
Review some of the posts and the prices the girls are asking are basically the same.
Yeah, I know the dollar has slid. But the girls don't care about that shit.
I am sure 1975 was different. OK, a loaf of bread was 19 cents then and my house cost me $30, 000 and is now worth $500, 000.
For the "overall" vacation and mongering experience, Thailand is still the best spot in the world in my opinion.I definitely think things have changed since 2004, particularly the attitudes. Back then, I remember 1500 long time was an acceptable price for a Pattaya beer bar girl, and 2000 agogo. However, just last year, I was quoted 2000 LT from an agogo girl, so it was still possible even then.
With respect to attitude, it could be that since I'm less of a catch each passing year, the girls see more more of a person to get money from than a person to be with for fun. Many of the hot girls "don't do short time". Some it's because they have boyfriends (or in the case of a really hot girl named Nan, a girlfriend) , but many know they can potentially get a second customer that night making more money.
Again, this doesn't mean good attitudes aren't to be found. I BFed a girl from an agogo in Pattaya the other night that I thought was fantastic. Great looks, great personality, and great performance. I would have continued to bar fine her, but she went home for Songkran yesterday. The bad news is, she won't return until after I leave Pattaya, the good news is she will be back when I return. And she does doubles with her (real) sister;"I boom boom sister, jing. Hehehehe" as she held her fingers in the form of a V with her tongue out between. I plan on being in her bar at 9pm then next time I'm here. Hopefully she (and her sister) won't be on multi day barfines then.
I get a kick out of the complaints on here.
Complaining about 600 B BF and 1500 B ST 2500 B LT and paying 4000 B at soapies.
How the girls attitudes are bad.
Review some of the posts and the prices the girls are asking are basically the same.
Yeah, I know the dollar has slid. But the girls don't care about that shit.
I am sure 1975 was different. OK, a loaf of bread was 19 cents then and my house cost me $30, 000 and is now worth $500, 000.
For the "overall" vacation and mongering experience, Thailand is still the best spot in the world in my opinion.One more thing regarding price. Yes, the price of mongering in Thailand has gone up. Not only is the Baht stronger, the cost of living in Thailand has also gone up. Most Thais work on a very low margin of profit. Once their costs go up, they have to raise prices to maintain a living. Since gasoline has gone up a great deal over the last few years, everything is more expensive.
going by the general feedback from expats, i get the impression (perhaps wrongly) that foreigners (either short term visitors or those living in the country) are ultimately classified as 'barbarians from over the sea', regardless of what we do, because it boils down to us simply not being thai. maybe that isn't the case, but i do wonder how effective it really is to attempt to win their favour in varoious ways. it seems that most people around the world do warm to foreigners over time, after having known them personally on a daily basis. for short visits and every day encounters with strangers, i just question if it really makes as big a difference as believed. having said that, it can only be true that people will make snap judgements about people's based on clothing and categorize them based on this. after all, it's exactly the same in britain, which has this operating at a very strong level too.i agree. in asia, you'll always be an outsider, simply because you don't look like everybody else. as such, there will always be a bit of the "barbarian" mentality that you describe.
it's hard to quantify, but the gf says that when you go around dressed like a beach bum (while not at the beach) , with a butt-ugly bar girl draped over your arm, you are immediately branded as an insane cretin. if you dress reasonably neatly, and your lady isn't dressed like a tramp, your seen in a better light and treated better by those with whom you interact. i admit that some of the cultural nuance may be lost on me, as it probably takes a lifetime to learn. but she insists that it's there.
i guess the overarching point is that, when traveling, i try not to be too offensive to the host country. i had a long conversation with an elderly lady a few months back. she was living in bkk with her husband in the early 1960s as part of the un, or something. her two kids were born in bkk. anyway, she described to me how farang were treated then, and it was just unbelievable. white folks were something of a novelty. today, the farang has such an image problem. fat, tattooed drunks running around half naked, with obvious bar girls in tow, seem to be an all too common sight. it seems the past decade, or so, has seen a major influx of the "lowest common denominator" of the farang tourist. so, imho, anything we can do to try to reduce that stereotype is a good thing.
in reality? or just the idea in your mind that you're being respected more?
in some countries i agree it makes a big difference how you dress.
i'm not 'fully' convinced that thailand is one of those.
to me, me findings in many countries is that our attitude is the deciding factor for locals.
we may be dressed like a **** boy, but if we interact in a polite way this seems to be key.
although i accept that for some things (embassies, other official places) it's time to ditch the holiday gear.
agreed 100% on that. it even seems bizzare to even see it on ko samui, away from the beaches.
(also saw one russian girl wearing a bikini while walking around in tesco lotus. lol) the world and the people in it are myopic and only see what they've been told to dress and hair is the first thing people see and it takes less than 3 seconds for first impressions to be solidly made. sure you may act like royalty but you may already be written off so if one cares about such things then dress is essential.
imagine walking to into a nana bar and sitting next to a handsome 32 year old caucasian male wearing a white dress shirt with a necktie opened, hanging down the sides of his chest with 3 buttons open as well, well polished black dress shoes, suit jacket folded on his lap, rolex watch sipping a scotch. conclusion would be immediate and possibly accurate.
same same. one should dress how one wants to be perceived. all countries participate, you just have to learn the rules.
Member #4414
04-15-13, 11:24
Today, the farang has such an image problem. Fat, tattooed drunks running around half naked, with obvious bar girls in tow, seem to be an all too common sight. It seems the past decade, or so, has seen a major influx of the "lowest common denominator" of the farang tourist. So, IMHO, anything we can do to try to reduce that stereotype is a good thing.Rings true that, very clearly. My belief is that the sheer variety of people who come to Thailand must also be extremely confusing for Thais to deal with, and probably explains why increasingly they 'seem' jaded with the falang. One minute they'll meet a polite quiet type who knows some of the cultural nuances, and the next second they'll encounter a brutish lout riding around shirtless plastered in tattoos and yelling his head off like a lunatic at nothing in particular (relating an incident I saw not long ago here while on the road).
Maybe some will disagree, but in the past of travel there was usually one type of person (colonial armies, aside) who could travel. Which was those who could afford it, and generally because they belonged to a more refined class of personality and upbringing. Now all sorts are making their way out, globally. Luckily, in most places where mass tourism hasn't hit, things are far less impact. I'm not a big earner by any means, but it would be fair to say I was brought up well of how to interact with people and to be sensitive to cultural expectations.
It certainly seems true that in Thailand there are a lot of people who don't have a damn clue, whatsoever, of how to behave with people not of their own culture or how to resolve problems without getting ugly. It is cringeworthy to witness, and because of that yeah I can understand more so now the need you've mentioned to try and separate ourselves from all that and the assumptions some Thais may make that we're all one and the same.
If the kind of things we wear may help in creating a distinction between visitor 'types', then I subscribe to your approach.
Cheers for the post, and this response also can be a response to Rjsss212's post.
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