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Here you go.
http://thailand.visahq.com/
And here is the text.
Check the current validity of your passport.
All travelers will need a passport valid for at least 90 days following your departure date from Thailand. However, we strongly recommend traveling with 6 months validity on your passport at all times. VisaHQ can assist USA citizens with a full range of expedited passport services, including new passport application and passport renewal.
If you read it carefully, it says 90 DAYS FOLLOWING YOUR DEPARTURE date. So it is not a 90 day validity. Enuff said.
Kiyakubuke
09-25-13, 05:16
Http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=United
+StatesI currently live outside Nashville, TN. Very low COL for the US. Bangkok is not tremendously cheaper, somethings even more expensive. So I would still need to work if I didn't want to have to tap into my retirement early.
Paul Kausch
09-25-13, 06:20
from the U. S Dept of State.
ENTRY / EXIT REQUIREMENTS FOR USA CITIZENS: If you are a USA citizen tourist staying for fewer than 30 days, you do not require a visa, but your passport must be valid for at least six months beyond the date of your entry into Thailand.
All travelers will need a passport valid for at least 90 days following your departure date from Thailand. However, we strongly recommend traveling with 6 months validity on your passport at all times. VisaHQ can assist USA citizens with a full range of expedited passport services, including new passport application and passport renewal.
If you read it carefully, it says 90 DAYS FOLLOWING YOUR DEPARTURE date. So it is not a 90 day validity. Enuff said.Several posts ago it was too much said; however, if you Read carefully, the US State Department and the passport / visa service company clearly contradict one another, which is what created the ruckus. The moral is: renew your passport well before six months of its expiration.
Several posts ago it was too much said; however, if you Read carefully, the US State Department and the passport / visa service company clearly contradict one another, which is what created the ruckus. The moral is: renew your passport well before six months of its expiration.Makes no bl*dy difference. Only a fool travels with a passport which might run out during overseas travel. Renew it at least 12 months before its validity expires even if you are not then planning to travel.
Don't waste time on the semantics of various 'instructions. '
Several posts ago it was too much said; however, if you Read carefully, the US State Department and the passport / visa service company clearly contradict one another, which is what created the ruckus. The moral is: renew your passport well before six months of its expiration.Neither the US State Department, nor the visahq company determine the rules. Sadly, I cannot find the rules clearly stated on any Thai government website. On the website of the Thai Embassy in Washington DC, it makes no mention of passport requirements for the tourist visa exemptions (30 day stamp most people here get when they enter Thailand without a visa) , http://dc.thaiembdc.org/consular/VISA/Exempt2.aspx.
However, for a tourist visa (60 day kind) , it states "Your actual Passport or Travel Document. (Passport or Travel Document must not expire within 6 months and contain at least ONE completely empty visa page)." http://dc.thaiembdc.org/consular/VISA/Tourist.aspx. But it doesn't say when the clock starts on the six months (entry, exit, or date of application).
Because the 30 day stamp is shorter than the proper visa, they may use the 90 day rule mentioned. In that case, both websites could technically be accurate. However, I'm inclined to believe it is 6 months from time of entry.
Anal retention here.
Does it matter what the different rules say?
AussieDoug
09-25-13, 11:41
But it doesn't say when the clock starts on the six months (entry, exit, or date of application).
Because the 30 day stamp is shorter than the proper visa, they may use the 90 day rule mentioned. In that case, both websites could technically be accurate. However, I'm inclined to believe it is 6 months from time of entry.In all cases it is this: the passport must remain valid for six months past the intended date of leaving the country you visit.
The call on this is made by the country to which you visit, not the country you come from nor the country whose passport you have. In the past Thailand has not enforced this rule, but that does not mean the rule no longer exists.
Does passport validity rank above f*ck*ng?
Not in my book.
AussieDoug
09-25-13, 11:47
Senior member over at the Usasexguide site, just starting here.
Few questions for all western expats living in Bangkok or Thailand in general. Especially those that work there.
It is possible I may be able to continue working for my currently company and just work remotely from Thailand (or where ever). But I like to cover all my bases.
ThanksIf your current real country employer will employ you and let you work in Thailand, then take that. Thailand is like any other country, the biggest sharks are some other expat, not the locals, bar girls excluded of course. And if you really don't like the place, you maybe can move back where you came from. In Thailand there are very few things you can legally own as a business without being forced by regulation to share with some hanger on. Stick with what you know.
In all cases it is this: the passport must remain valid for six months past the intended date of leaving the country you visit.
The call on this is made by the country to which you visit, not the country you come from nor the country whose passport you have. In the past Thailand has not enforced this rule, but that does not mean the rule no longer exists.They enforced it on me several years ago. They let me in but when time to leave, I got escorted out of immigration and they told me to go to my Embassy. Theu would not let me keave Thailand. At the time of my planned departure from Thailand, I had a few days less that 6 months before my passport expired. I got a new passport at the American Embassy in Bangkok. I did not mind; great excuse to spend some extra days in Bangkok.
Don't waste time on the semantics of various 'instructions. 'Well said.
The 6 month rule is a silly rule in its own as any country actually reduces the life of a passport 6 months shorter than what yor country says. But FFS, just renew it ahead of time and all will be fine.
Who is the idiot who wants to challenge any immigration officer anywhere in the world about his country rules being silly and not clear.
I'm looking at Thailand as a destination next year, probably late April. I usually do two week tours of the German fkk club scene (and will combine both scenes on this next trip). My question is how long is a good Thailand tour? I'm undecided between three or four weeks. I also ran into two swedes in a Fkk club, one who lives in Bangkok for the last 15 years. Both stated that Pattaya has the lower quality girls, girls who can no longer make it in Bangkok. Is this correct? Should I focus my trip in Bangkok and avoid Pattaya?
Paul Kausch
09-27-13, 22:54
I'm looking at Thailand as a destination next year, probably late April. I usually do two week tours of the German fkk club scene (and will combine both scenes on this next trip). My question is how long is a good Thailand tour? I'm undecided between three or four weeks. I also ran into two swedes in a Fkk club, one who lives in Bangkok for the last 15 years. Both stated that Pattaya has the lower quality girls, girls who can no longer make it in Bangkok. Is this correct? Should I focus my trip in Bangkok and avoid Pattaya?Some guys love Pattaya. Some guys don't. Bangkok is a big city with a big mongering scene. Pattaya is smaller, cheaper and the girls on average are less attractive, though you can find some good looking young ladies. After four weeks in Bangkok you will have just scratched the surface. A few days in Pattaya and, unless you like it, you'll be ready to leave, and may conclude you don't need to go back.
I'm looking at Thailand as a destination next year, probably late April. I usually do two week tours of the German fkk club scene (and will combine both scenes on this next trip). My question is how long is a good Thailand tour? I'm undecided between three or four weeks. I also ran into two swedes in a Fkk club, one who lives in Bangkok for the last 15 years. Both stated that Pattaya has the lower quality girls, girls who can no longer make it in Bangkok. Is this correct? Should I focus my trip in Bangkok and avoid Pattaya?First, you should try to get to Thailand in early April for two reasons. One, late April is the beginning of rainy season. And two, Songkran. Many / most expats hate it with a passion, but I loved it when I was there last. Kind of a once in a lifetime experience.
Regarding quality of girls, my first visit to Pattaya, I had the impression that Bangkok was better. But lately, I don't think that is the case. The best looking girls in Bangkok seem to hold out for Japanese customers.
In Pattaya, you can find more hot women than you can shake a stick at. The gogos tend to have the better looking woman and will be much cheaper than you will find in Bangkok.
If you only plan on staying in one place, then three weeks is probably enough. If you want to move around, four is better. I like Phuket (but not for mongering) and the southern beaches in general.
Wolvenvacht
09-28-13, 07:19
I'm looking at Thailand as a destination next year, probably late April. I usually do two week tours of the German fkk club scene (and will combine both scenes on this next trip). My question is how long is a good Thailand tour? I'm undecided between three or four weeks. I also ran into two swedes in a Fkk club, one who lives in Bangkok for the last 15 years. Both stated that Pattaya has the lower quality girls, girls who can no longer make it in Bangkok. Is this correct? Should I focus my trip in Bangkok and avoid Pattaya?My first trip to Thailand was one month and I did not found one moment of it boring. One week Bangkok, one week some places in the interior and two weeks in Jomtien (Pattaya).
As to the "quality" of the girls, all depends on your definition of quality. There are ugly girls and bad performers everywhere, but beautiful ladies who give you a marvelous time as well. Prices in Pattaya are generally lower than in Bangkok, but I like the agogo-clubs in Bangkok more than those in Pattaya. On the other hand, the short-time bars in Soi 6 in Pattaya are unique: a real Candyland for Adults. Pattaya also has an abundance of open-air beerbars with lots of free-lancers and Beach Road is the home of more of them, if that is your fancy. For sure, Pattaya is different from Bangkok, but each has its own good and bad things. For a first trip, taking a look at both is the best option, IMHO.
My first trip to Thailand was one month and I did not found one moment of it boring. One week Bangkok, one week some places in the interior and two weeks in Jomtien (Pattaya).
As to the "quality" of the girls, all depends on your definition of quality. IMHO.There is a direct (exponential) relationship between the quality of Thai WGs and the amount of alcohol drunk by the punter.
There is the rule also that no girl is ugly at 1. 00am when there are only two WGs left in the bar
Does passport validity rank above f*ck*ng?
Not in my book.Of course it does. No validity, no LOS.
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There is a direct (exponential) relationship between the quality of Thai WGs and the amount of alcohol drunk by the punter.
There is the rule also that no girl is ugly at 1:00am when there are only two WGs left in the barBeauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. To each his own. Its always advisable to be little sober when you select a girl. Agree on that.
Western787
09-29-13, 13:32
Interesting documentary, part of the "Working Girls" Glory series from two years back. Very slick production values, focuses on Hi Class over in Ratchada, and obviously shot in that locale with full approval of the Davis Group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNb93TkKGrA
First, you should try to get to Thailand in early April for two reasons. One, late April is the beginning of rainy season. And two, Songkran. Many / most expats hate it with a passion, but I loved it when I was there last. Kind of a once in a lifetime experience.Thanks for all the input, it will help me decide on an itinerary. Let me expand a bit, the reason I'm leaning towards late April to start this month long adventure is to end the trip on the US's memorial weekend, which would give me a free day to recoup before heading back to work. I'm using airmiles from United which allows a free layover on my return flight. I'd have an eight hour layover in Frankfurt which would allow me to take a break from flying and eat some good food and fuck some good pussy before continuing on to Bangkok. A return layover can then be taken in Frankfurt to enjoy many naked girls sunning themselves in the nude around outdoor pools at the various Fkk clubs. Really the best of both worlds in my opinion, I get to check out Thailand and enjoy the naked hotties in Germany.
My thinking is to spend two and a half weeks in Thailand and the remaining week and a half in Germany. Maybe 4 days in both Pattaya and Bangkok and then decide which area I prefer. Does talent change with weekends and weekdays as it does in Germany?
Thanks for all the input, it will help me decide on an itinerary. Let me expand a bit, the reason I'm leaning towards late April to start this month long adventure is to end the trip on the US's memorial weekend, which would give me a free day to recoup before heading back to work. I'm using airmiles from United which allows a free layover on my return flight. I'd have an eight hour layover in Frankfurt which would allow me to take a break from flying and eat some good food and fuck some good pussy before continuing on to Bangkok. A return layover can then be taken in Frankfurt to enjoy many naked girls sunning themselves in the nude around outdoor pools at the various Fkk clubs. Really the best of both worlds in my opinion, I get to check out Thailand and enjoy the naked hotties in Germany.
My thinking is to spend two and a half weeks in Thailand and the remaining week and a half in Germany. Maybe 4 days in both Pattaya and Bangkok and then decide which area I prefer. Does talent change with weekends and weekdays as it does in Germany?I think two and half weeks is long enough to get a taste of Thailand. If I were to stay that long in one place, I think I'd get bored. I was there last during the rainy season and spent about 9 nights in Patong and was getting bored. Mostly because the rain was preventing me from doing much. Very little beach or snorkeling. However, if you are traveling around, you might feel rushed. I've done three nights in Phuket, three nights on Phi Phi, and three nights in Krabi before and I have to admit that I wish I could have slowed it down a bit.
If mongering is your only reason, then stay in Bangkok and Pattaya and you will have a good time. There are lots of things to do in both cities on your "down" time. Since you don't know either, yes, it's probably a good idea to spend four nights in each then decide what to do with the rest of your time. Finding accommodation will not be a problem during that time.
Just curious, are you traveling from the East coast of the US?
Just curious, are you traveling from the East coast of the US?Pretty much the 'northeast' coast. Close enough to Canada for a short drive is needed. Montreal and Toronto used to be my hunting grounds until the exchange rate went to par. Problem is as the exchange rate dropped, the escort fee's went up.
If I land at 2pm on a monday, what would be the better 'first destination'? Bangkok or Pattaya? Also curious about Thai airways. I read that singapore air has some hot stewardess's, what's the planes like with Thai airways?
Also curious about Thai airways. I read that singapore air has some hot stewardess's, what's the planes like with Thai airways?On a strict appearance comparison, Singapore airlines hostesses will win. Not that Thai airways don't have hot ones, but it is said that in SIA stewardess are grounded after they reach a certain age, I think around 30. Don't know much true this is, but it is a possibility, they might be hired on a 5 years contract and maybe not renewed. Easy.
Nevertheless both airlines are pleasant to fly with, service is excellent, but don't expect P4P on board. Ahahah ahah
If I land at 2:00 p.m. on a Monday, what would be the better first destination? Bangkok or Pattaya?I recommend starting in Pattaya and ending in Bangkok. That way, you'll be closer to the airport when it's time to leave Thailand. If you go straight from Pattaya to BKK that adds at least a couple of hours to your outbound trip. The flight to Germany is already long enough. If your incoming flight is on time and the lines at the immigration checkpoint aren't too long you can easily be on Soi Six in Pattaya with a drink in your hand by 5:00 pm.
Bunky
SoulKeeper
10-05-13, 23:03
Dear members,
I have been planning my trip to Thailand (first Mongering Trip) for sometime now and after a lot of reach have zeroed in on Pattaya. However I have had come across reports about the apparent discrimination (being melted out to people from Indian) regarding the entry / treatment into the bars at Walking Street and other areas.
I wanted to find out if this this practice is prevalent in Pattaya, and if there is really some discrimination which areas should I avoid [From what I read on the Internet, is it so bad that I should cancel my trip? ] I faced no trouble when I was mongering in Cebu last year for 10 days and 3 days in Manila. (Will be planning a trip next year to Cebu again, Red Horse and Mango Avenue will have to wait for sometime.)
Any opinions / thoughts on this will be helpful.
Thanks.
AssLover945
10-06-13, 04:52
Dear members,
I have been planning my trip to Thailand (first Mongering Trip) for sometime now and after a lot of reach have zeroed in on Pattaya. However I have had come across reports about the apparent discrimination (being melted out to people from Indian) regarding the entry / treatment into the bars at Walking Street and other areas.
I wanted to find out if this this practice is prevalent in Pattaya, and if there is really some discrimination which areas should I avoid [From what I read on the Internet, is it so bad that I should cancel my trip? ] I faced no trouble when I was mongering in Cebu last year for 10 days and 3 days in Manila. (Will be planning a trip next year to Cebu again, Red Horse and Mango Avenue will have to wait for sometime.)
Any opinions / thoughts on this will be helpful.
Thanks.Well well, Racism runs deep in Thailand, and it is even more obvious in the mongering areas, where you maybe denied entry into some establishments.
But BUT BUT as always money rules. And money is the king here in Thailand too, as is everywhere.
Play by the rules and you will enjoy. Flash money, be generous with the girls, mamasans etc and you will be valued (or rather the money in your pocket) , You have something that these chicks and their pimps want badly. But they do not know if you are willing to spend, or even know if you have that kind of money.
So in order to bring down their guard and to NOT stop you at the gate, do your due, wear clean dresses for a start, be clean shaven or well kept, smell well, carry some expensive accessories and be gentle and sweet when talking, and if they are still not convinced, just move on, no need to shout at racists who may have already made up their minds.
Remember, Racism does not just apply to your country, but to many other countries where the skin colour may not be white, So play the game well. There are 100s of establishments who will welcome you (or rather your money)
Dear members,
I have been planning my trip to Thailand (first Mongering Trip) for sometime now and after a lot of reach have zeroed in on Pattaya. However I have had come across reports about the apparent discrimination (being melted out to people from Indian) regarding the entry / treatment into the bars at Walking Street and other areas.
I wanted to find out if this this practice is prevalent in Pattaya, and if there is really some discrimination which areas should I avoid [From what I read on the Internet, is it so bad that I should cancel my trip? ] I faced no trouble when I was mongering in Cebu last year for 10 days and 3 days in Manila. (Will be planning a trip next year to Cebu again, Red Horse and Mango Avenue will have to wait for sometime.)
Any opinions / thoughts on this will be helpful.
Thanks.
.Flash money, be generous with the girls, mamasans etc and you will be valued (or rather the money in your pocket) , You have something that these chicks and their pimps want badly. But they do not know if you are willing to spend, or even know if you have that kind of money.carry some expensive accessories.If you flash money and expensive accessories then be prepared to part with them fast, just like in any other country. Here's the thing. Your brothers have ruined your reputation with their bad attitude towards women and being the greatest cheap skates in the world (looking for a 4 for 1 deal). That is compounded by poor hygiene and appearance. And this is not just with the mongering crowd. It is across the board.
So, if you have a good attitude, smile and be generous you should do OK. Your attitude and demeanor is the key. Be generous but not flashy. Buy a few lady drinks but not for the whole staff. And pay each time the drinks come around, not keep a tab. Otherwise you might land up with a lot of extra drinks.
Keep your diamond rings and the money clip at home. Just carry enough baht in your pocket when you go out. You may get turned away at some gogo bars in Nana or in Pattaya but not all. You should be fine in Soi Cowboy. But gogo bars are not that great anyway.
SoulKeeper
10-06-13, 17:35
Well well, Racism runs deep in Thailand, and it is even more obvious in the mongering areas, where you maybe denied entry into some establishments.
But BUT BUT as always money rules. And money is the king here in Thailand too, as is everywhere.Thanks for the info. I guess then Pattaya it is then. Will go ahead with the plan.
SoulKeeper
10-06-13, 19:14
Keep your diamond rings and the money clip at home. Just carry enough baht in your pocket when you go out. You may get turned away at some gogo bars in Nana or in Pattaya but not all. You should be fine in Soi Cowboy. But gogo bars are not that great anyway.Thanks for the caution. And yes, I have read about not keeping a tab in any bars or pubs [do not want to get in arguments over the number of Drinks and LDs once I am leaving].
Baracuda24
10-06-13, 20:13
Just returned from trip last month to Thailand. The forum has been very useful to me so time to repay. Doubt that my post will add anything new but still duty calls to make a report.
Trip was mix of biz and pleasure so not full on mongering. Bangkok I have hit three or four times before and Pattaya was the second time.
Bangkok. Spent all my time in the NEP area or Soi 4. I prefer NEP to Cowboy as although the Cowboy go-go's maybe marginally better, NEP has much better bars in the area. All the bars on Soi 4 close to NEP I think are pretty good for having a beer and relaxing. Bar 4 (or could be 44) I like the best. Strikers also good. Personally I think some of the lady's in these bars are real interesting. If you look hard enough and with some luck can find a gem or two. I mean by this a 6 or 7 looker, speaks reasonable English and is fun. Not too pushy but if the right buttons are pressed will be available for 2,000. 4,000 LT. I don't negotiate hard. And all my take outs from these bars have been well worth the outlay. Enthusiastic GFE.
Best gogo's are Spankys and Rainbow 4. Spankys is more intimate but good to fair selection always available. Good floor show. Low turnover of girls also. Have a favourite from Spankys who I took out twice. Because I think Spankys tends to have mostly the same girls it is not so easy to take out different girls. OK if you have picked a real dud but otherwise ladies will tend to be at best seriously jealous, or at worse extremely pissed, if you return to the bar and take a different girl within a few days! Rainbow 4 has a very wide selection going from 4's. 8's. Did not take out this time. Spent an hour or so chatting and drinking with a real stunner. But she looked for 5, 000 for LT. This is too much I feel so deal did not materialize. But no drama, parted with a smile and a slap on the butt. Only other gogo I went to was Mandarin. Also pretty good. Bit smaller and intimate.
Bangkok I stayed at the JW Marriott. If you are not on a tight budget then it is great place to stay. Service excellent. No raised eyebrows. Can take "friends" into breakfast, pool area, club lounge. Totally GF.
Pattaya. Forays to Walking St, Soi LK Metro and bars at I-section of Soi 7-9 and Beach Road and Soi 12-13 and Second Road. Personally I think there are numerous rich pickings to be had in both these bar locations. Many gems to be found. Perhaps 7's but many, many great girls. Lots of fun and laughs to be had. Had three takeouts and was quoted as little as 200 BF and 1, 000 for LT. Cannot believe there is better all round value to be had anywhere else!
Gogo's I hit were Spankys and Angelwitch on Walking St. Both very moderate. At LK Metro, The Office which was also pretty bad. Far and away the best was The Funhouse (or could be Madhouse) at the location that was previously Champagnes. Easily the best looking dancers from the small sample of gog's I visited.
Pattaya stayed at Marriott Resort and Spa which same comments apply to JW in Bangkok.
In summary I think the bar scene in Pattaya is better and more varied. Gogo's in both location I think are similar. For those who are not familiar Pattaya is a "full on" adult resort. Bangkok has a couple of discrete pockets only. While there are many genuine tourists, couples and families in Pattaya they are "odd" in my opinion to take a non-adult holiday in that location. For stuff like shopping Bangkok is way better. Pattaya as a place of general interest and relaxation. Etc is a big disappointment.
Good luck to all.
Dear members,
I have been planning my trip to Thailand (first Mongering Trip) for sometime now and after a lot of reach have zeroed in on Pattaya. However I have had come across reports about the apparent discrimination (being melted out to people from Indian) regarding the entry / treatment into the bars at Walking Street and other areas.
I wanted to find out if this this practice is prevalent in Pattaya, and if there is really some discrimination which areas should I avoid [From what I read on the Internet, is it so bad that I should cancel my trip? ] I faced no trouble when I was mongering in Cebu last year for 10 days and 3 days in Manila. (Will be planning a trip next year to Cebu again, Red Horse and Mango Avenue will have to wait for sometime.)
Any opinions / thoughts on this will be helpful.
Thanks.I have been a regular at Pattaya. Yes, there are places where there is discrimination but its all dependent on you. Dress up well and behave in the right manner there would be no issues to get into any place. I personally have not faced this issue in Pattaya. Try the discos which normally get busy post midnight like Lucifer, Mixx or Insomnia. You can also move around the beer bars on Second Road and Soi LK. Walking street is anyway a must see.
I have read about not keeping a tab in any bars or pubs [do not want to get in arguments over the number of Drinks and LDs once I am leaving].Just my opinion:
It's one thing to pay for a single drink at the time it's served, especially if you are served by a bartender and then wander off. But if you sit at a table and buy more than one drink, especially from a waitress (like in a go-go club) paying separately is not advised. If you do, most bar folks will decide you are a "Cheap Charlie," which they are predisposed to do anyway when dealing with our brothers from the subcontinent.
There is no problem running a tab. Every time you buy a drink (or more) the waitress will write your order and the cost on a small piece of paper and put that in a cylindrical cup on your table known as the "check bin." When you want to leave, give the bin back to your waitress. They will add up the drinks for you and you pay. Tipping is generally not done, except for a few coins.
The bars and go-gos located in and around the Nana Plaza are honest, as are the places in and around Soi Cowboy. Ditto for just about anywhere in Pattaya that you'd want to go. Drink prices are usually prominently posted. If you stick to the popular areas you don't need to worry about getting over-charged. The exception would be if you got sloppy drunk, or if you "ring the bell" to order drinks for everybody in the house. So long as you buy a modest number of drinks for yourself, and perhaps for the girls who sit with you, it will be fine.
If you are truly paranoid, you can check each slip as it is added to your bin. (Discretely, of course. Again, you don't want to look like a Cheap Charlie.) But if you insist on paying for each round individually you're going to annoy with waitress and reinforce a pernicious stereotype.
Bunky
Wolvenvacht
10-15-13, 07:18
There is no problem running a tab. Every time you buy a drink (or more) the waitress will write your order and the cost on a small piece of paper and put that in a cylindrical cup on your table known as the "check bin." When you want to leave, give the bin back to your waitress. They will add up the drinks for you and you pay. Tipping is generally not done, except for a few coins.The cup is not known as the "check bin". As in the Thai language a word cannot end on an "L"-sound. The English "check bill" becomes automatically "check bin" when spoken by a Thai.
The cup is not known as the "check bin". As in the Thai language a word cannot end on an "L"-sound. The English "check bill" becomes automatically "check bin" when spoken by a Thai.&3648; &3594; &3655; &3585; &3610; &3636; &3621; chekH binM phrase " (at a restaurant)"Check please."
&3648; &3594; &3655; &3585; &3610; &3636; &3621; chekH binM phrase " (at a restaurant)"Check please."Those posts are three years back. I don't expect to trawl back that far.
&3648; &3594; &3655; &3585; &3610; &3636; &3621; chekH binM phrase " (at a restaurant)"Check please."If you mean to say "check please" in Thai at a restaurant, you say "check bin khrap," or "check bin duay khrap," or "gep taang khrap," or gep taang duay khrap." You add khrap to say it politely as in "please."
W is correct that the Thai's have trouble pronouncing "l" at the end of a word, so they would pronounce bill as bin, just as they pronounce school as sa-kuun, so I don't believe it's a myth.
"Bin" means the Eglish loan word "bill" in Thai.
http://www.thai-language.com/id/131648
Null Avenger
10-15-13, 13:50
Just my opinion:
If you are truly paranoid, you can check each slip as it is added to your bin. (Discretely, of course. Again, you don't want to look like a Cheap Charlie.) But if you insist on paying for each round individually you're going to annoy with waitress and reinforce a pernicious stereotype.
BunkyI've gotten into the habit of always looking at any new entries to the bin. If I can glance at it I will, but I have no shame in pulling it out and reading it if necessary. I've never had any negative reactions from doing this, the worst that will happen is a waitress will appear at your elbow to explain the new entry. Typically everything is on the level, and I just drop the new check back in, and the waitress disappears. Obviously the staff notices in the extreme case, but I believe that just means you won't be subject to any dodgy entries. Caveat: While I do check the bin, I'm not stingy with my spending either. If your only ordering one drink, its not very complicated to manage.
Actual problems I've encountered:
5x : Get slip for group next to me [and vice versa I expect]
3x : Phantom drinks
10x : Miss-priced drinks [happy hour not applying, lady drink prices for walk in guests, ignoring discount cards, etc]
The most common place for a issue to occur is after you pay for your bin; You typically get your change back, but no receipt.
Many many times: Short changed blatantly
3x : Extra drink added to bin. I suppose this is a form of short changed, but if you protest, they produce the bin with the new drink on it. Happily this has happened at bars where the drinks had timestamps and it was easy to show the latest entry was just added at the register.
Depending on your level of moral righteousness: Take issues up to the cashier / manager to fix, otherwise its likely the scammer [fiscal entrepreneur] will pay you out of pocket to avoid notice by management. [Assuming it wasn't management orchestrating the high jinks, it typically isn't]. If there is an error with your bin, fix it immediately. Don't listen to wait staff who say they will fix the issue when you pay, they won't, they will disappear just making the issue even more complicated.
Some of the cashiers have difficulty with math. Not the 30+50+90=170 variety, but the 15% discount type. I had to send my change back [not joking] 6 times [each time it came back differently] at one bar.
Once you have a reputation [you ALWAYS have a reputation, and you WILL be remembered for "fixing" your bin], these issues will almost disappear. In fact, at one location that often has "issues" . The mamasan will look at my bin before I get it, and she has corrected issues on a few occasions before it gets to me.
Just my opinion:. If you are truly paranoid, you can check each slip as it is added to your bin. (Discretely, of course. Again, you don't want to look like a Cheap Charlie.) But if you insist on paying for each round individually you're going to annoy with waitress and reinforce a pernicious stereotype.
BunkyI would rather be a Cheap Charlie than being scammed. You are out there to get a WG in the first place. Just because you look in the bin doesn't mean you a cheap charlie.
My first time in Pattaya, I landed up with extra slips in the bin. And this was in the MORNING getting a cup of coffee at a bar. The French owner came out from the back when I started protesting and took care of it. At that time, I didn't know it was not polite to protest loudly.
News Item: Popstar Rihanna's tweets last month, that explained, in graphic detail, what happened in a sex show she visited in Thailand has led Thai authorities to shut the place. The authorities said on Monday that they had arrested the owner who ran the show in Phuket. 'We will be more strict towards inappropriate shows, ' the local district police chief said.
Today I was with a girl that is about to visit her new "boyfriend", a young man in Europe for the first time. I was playing with Google Streets (wanted to see her city) and asked if she had seen already the home where she is going, to which she replied she actually did and that was it. To me, Google Streets is something amazing everytime I open it after all these years that it exists! She showed no curiosity or interest, and we are talking about a beautiful European destination. The same (lack of) enthousiasm she had toward the entire trip. Hope the "boyfriend" will have a compatible personality, as these indications of an "house plant" attitude are just scaring to me. BTW, decent lay and looks, but not stellar. 1K overnight.
Paul Kausch
10-27-13, 21:27
She showed no curiosity or interest, and we are talking about a beautiful European destination.A good illustration of the ethnocentric nature of Thais.
Member #4387
10-28-13, 12:27
I think this issue is better to be discussed here rather in the devoted BKK thread as long it is not linked into clubs, girls or whatever. Of course as a visitor I respect the culture and conducts of the countries I visit. My inner thoughts could tell me different but again as a visitor it is not my agenda to change anything. If my memory serves me correctly I believe one american citizen got a rather stiff verdict after insulting the King (or the family) in Thailand. Of course heavy diplomacy made him get off with a heavy fine and deportation instead of heavy banged upbroad time. So don't be insulting while in Thailand as that could, speaking to wrong people, get you into trouble. Many thais arent that picky tough but know who you talk to. I have no relations to the King of Thailand whatsoever but I do respect that people of his country do. I also respect my King in my country and I remember when our last King died back in 91, we more celebrated his life rather than feeling sad he was dead. Ofcourse sadness was a part of it as well. But he was a good man and a great symbol for our country and so will our next King of today also be treated. But our freedom of speach laws makes it all good to verbaly talk bad about him if some for some reasons dont like him. If you throw eggs at him then you better run because you can get atleast fined or time in jail..
I have no relations to the King of Thailand whatsoever.Wait a minute. Just one damn minute!
No relationship? None? Nada, absolutely nothing? And you waited 490 posts before telling us?
Jeez
Paul Kausch
10-28-13, 18:57
I think this issue is better to be discussed here rather in the devoted BKK thread as long it is not linked into clubs, girls or whatever.
I have no relations to the King of Thailand whatsoever but I do respect that people of his country do. I also respect my King in my country and I remember when our last King died back in 91, we more celebrated his life rather than feeling sad he was dead.
If you throw eggs at him then you better run because you can get atleast fined or time in jail.Skogis,
Thank you for the thoughtful, from the heart post; and thank you for moving the discussion to the proper thread. I can't speak for others, but in my mind our discussion was not an expression of attitudes about His Royal Majesty the King, but about the impact his death will have on the country and our peculiar interests. Personally, I am touched by the universal fondness Thais feel for him. I also have a high opinion of the two younger daughters. The oldest daughter has chosen a life path one would not expect. The son, the Crown Prince, appears to struggle coping with the burdens of his position. I do not envy anyone born into a royal family with high visibility and important obligations. Oh, and based on what I have seen of her, the Crown Prince's wife is stunning!
No doubt, when His Royal Majesty the King dies there will be an enormous outpouring of grief and a lingering sadness that will persist for some time. The majority of Thais have never experienced life without him. The question on everyone's mind is what will happen in the country after his death. A couple of Thais I know in the USA talked to me about this when he was released from the hospital, in which he had been living for an extended period of time, and returned to his home. My opinions are influences by what they have said to me, though we never got around to discussing the impact it will have on mongers. By the way, they do know how and how much I enjoy young Thai ladies on my visits to Bangkok. The gentleman grins a lot when we talk about it. His wife presses me for surprisingly explicit detail about my escapades. She clearly finds the descriptions most titillating. They've been living in the USA since college and are well assimilated.
PK
Member #4387
10-28-13, 19:12
Wait a minute. Just one damn minute!
No relationship? None? Nada, absolutely nothing? And you waited 490 posts before telling us?
JeezWell it took you 624 posts to find out I did not so I had to put it out in clear words. Relax now you know..
. A couple of Thais I know in the USA talked to me about this when he was released from the hospital, in which he had been living for an extended period of time, and returned to his home.
PKAccdording to rumors, the reasons why the King had stayed in hospital for such a long time are not purely because of his age and health. There are things about the inner politics of the royal family that one gets to know only if curious enough to dig under the surface. Be reassured that with all the love they have to them, Thais do indeep gossip. But since this is not the right venue, I will not discuss further.
RelaxWhoa, thanks, OK, that's better.
Well, rest assured, you'll always be a "royal" in at least one regard.
Member #4235
10-31-13, 01:25
Guys,
My first post here, need some advice. Staying with friends at Somerset Apartments in following address, No 39 Soi Suanplu, South Sathorn Road Bangkok 10120, Thailand
I need a place within walking distance which offers at least BJ and / or full service. I don't really want to take any transport, just something very close by where I can duck out of the apartment for not more than an hour, unload, then come back.
Are there any suggestions?
Guys,
My first post here, need some advice. Staying with friends at Somerset Apartments in following address, No 39 Soi Suanplu, South Sathorn Road Bangkok 10120, Thailand
I need a place within walking distance which offers at least BJ and / or full service. I don't really want to take any transport, just something very close by where I can duck out of the apartment for not more than an hour, unload, then come back.
Are there any suggestions?The apartments have a free tuk tuk shuttle to Sala Daeng skytrain station, about a 5 minute drive. From there, Patpong is only a few hundred meters down Silom. You should be able to find someplace to unload there.
Guys,
My first post here, need some advice. Staying with friends at Somerset Apartments in following address, No 39 Soi Suanplu, South Sathorn Road Bangkok 10120, Thailand
I need a place within walking distance which offers at least BJ and / or full service. I don't really want to take any transport, just something very close by where I can duck out of the apartment for not more than an hour, unload, then come back.
Are there any suggestions?If you are indeed HappilyMarried, why in the Sam Hill are you on the site?
Just to throw the question out there.
Guys,
My first post here, need some advice. Staying with friends at Somerset Apartments in following address, No 39 Soi Suanplu, South Sathorn Road Bangkok 10120, Thailand
I need a place within walking distance which offers at least BJ and / or full service. I don't really want to take any transport, just something very close by where I can duck out of the apartment for not more than an hour, unload, then come back.
Are there any suggestions?Which floor and apartment number? I can send you a couple of girlfriends there. So you can even party with your friends.
Ever thought of walking down the road and have a look yourself? Or are you restricted into the apartment with no walking hour?
Member #4235
10-31-13, 19:58
If you are indeed HappilyMarried, why in the Sam Hill are you on the site?
Just to throw the question out there.Hi,
You're right. There are no married guys who visit the LOS smiles for fun.
I'd be taking a guess but I suspect it's the middle class married guys who are keeping the "industry" healthy with their annual visits with mates to the country.
I knew it would be a catchy Nic.
Member #4235
10-31-13, 19:59
The apartments have a free tuk tuk shuttle to Sala Daeng skytrain station, about a 5 minute drive. From there, Patpong is only a few hundred meters down Silom. You should be able to find someplace to unload there.Thanks, I am not familiar with that area but your suggestion seems very doable. I'll give it a shot.
Member #4235
10-31-13, 22:37
Which floor and apartment number? I can send you a couple of girlfriends there. So you can even party with your friends.
Ever thought of walking down the road and have a look yourself? Or are you restricted into the apartment with no walking hour?I'm there with Thai friends (good girls) so need to be discrete. I do think the tuk tuk suggested earlier is a good idea.
Hi Guys,
I'm going to be in Thailand for (all of) December. Any recommendations on dating sites to set up a few contacts before I get there? I do contribute to this forum in terms of reviews and advice (check my profile) so would be very grateful for some feedback on a totally alien territory (SE Asia). Many thanks
Ripple
Paul Kausch
11-03-13, 18:16
Hi Guys.
I'm going to be in Thailand for (all of) December. Any recommendations on dating sites to set up a few contacts before I get there? I do contribute to this forum in terms of reviews and advice (check my profile) so would be very grateful for some feedback on a totally alien territory (SE Asia). Many thanks
RippleThaiLoveLinks. Com.
ThaiFriendly. Com
ThaiLoveLinks. Com.
ThaiFriendly. ComThank you Paul. Will let you know how I get on.
I can second thaifriendly; I have had very good luck using it.
Hi Guys.
I'm going to be in Thailand for (all of) December. Any recommendations on dating sites to set up a few contacts before I get there? I do contribute to this forum in terms of reviews and advice (check my profile) so would be very grateful for some feedback on a totally alien territory (SE Asia). Many thanks
Ripple
A Vietnamese solution to the Bangkok traffic congestion problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfpny1mifs4
Just back after 2 months away. I am hearing lower Sukhumvit is getting quite bad for robberies from motorcycle riders. Is it exaggerated? Any advice?
Just back after 2 months away. I am hearing lower Sukhumvit is getting quite bad for robberies from motorcycle riders. Is it exaggerated? Any advice?10th of this month I get off from BKK. I have been stayed at Soi 97 and Soi 64, Sukhumvit road. Apparently I have been resided KM away from the Sukhumvit road (main). Sometimes used moto bike, sometimes I walked along these sois. But never been faced any incidents as you said.
If you consider these are lower Sukhumvit.
10th of this month I get off from BKK. I have been stayed at Soi 97 and Soi 64, Sukhumvit road. Apparently I have been resided KM away from the Sukhumvit road (main). Sometimes used moto bike, sometimes I walked along these sois. But never been faced any incidents as you said.
If you consider these are lower Sukhumvit.No. By lower Sukhumwit I mean like Soi 2 up to Phrom Phong, or a little more. Soi 64 or 97 is Bang Chak (Jaak) and not a tourist area as such. Convenient Park Hotel is an option for quite cheap longer term stay. Do you have any other suggestions?
The warning came from a Ladyboy brother of a girl I know, who lives in Sukhumwit. No doubt there have been news items as well. Since being here I have noticed a quite strong police presence at night in Sukhumwit and in the darker Sois etc. Steps may have been taken by the authorities to stamp out the motor cycle rider robberies of tourists already.
No. By lower Sukhumwit I mean like Soi 2 up to Phrom Phong, or a little more. Soi 64 or 97 is Bang Chak (Jaak) and not a tourist area as such. Convenient Park Hotel is an option for quite cheap longer term stay. Do you have any other suggestions?There are another option for hotel just beside the wall of Punnabithi BTS is Marlen Lodge. Asking room rate is just below the Convenient Park. They have a Cha Cha Cha (Tango) dance club on their 1st floor, performing every evening (free for the borders). Even that I can not suggest for the rooms. Reference to the facilities & comforts of Convenient, it is highly expansive.
The warning came from a Ladyboy brother of a girl I know, who lives in Sukhumwit. No doubt there have been news items as well. Since being here I have noticed a quite strong police presence at night in Sukhumwit and in the darker Sois etc. Steps may have been taken by the authorities to stamp out the motor cycle rider robberies of tourists already.This time I stayed BKK for 50 days and certainly not in same hotel. I used different hotels for different online girls (wastage of different sims with money, alas!). Stayed for couple of days at Soi 23 (you know better) too; In late night me and my girl walked deeper through the soi, but never faced any incidents.
Tiradentes
11-25-13, 05:35
Thai capital tense as political rivals rally.
Bangkok (AFP). Tens of thousands of pro- and anti-government demonstrators massed in rival rallies in Bangkok on Sunday, as Thailand grappled with its most potent revival of street politics since bloody protests in 2010.
Police estimated that about 90,000 opponents of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her crisis-hit administration had gathered in three sites in the city's historic centre, calling for her government to be toppled.
http://news.yahoo.com/thai-capital-tense-political-rivals-rally-082233930.html
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Typhoon in the Philippines....
Political Unrest in Thailand.....
Crackdown in The Dominican Republic.....
Exuberant prices in Brazil......
Where to go now? Should I cancel my trip to BKK?
Paul Kausch
11-25-13, 05:48
Thai capital tense as political rivals rally.
Where to go now? Should I cancel my trip to BKK?Absolutely cancel your trip!
Next week I'll be arriving in BKK with glee and gusto! I'll happily take your share.
Seriously, other articles I've read claim the protests are occurring in designated locations and so far the protesters are complying; but guys living there witnessing events first hand are in a better position to comment. Look back a few posts and I believe you will find some posts confirming that the protests are having no impact on the parts of the city mongers flock to.
Absolutely cancel your trip!
Next week I'll be arriving in BKK with glee and gusto! I'll happily take your share.
Seriously, other articles I've read claim the protests are occurring in designated locations and so far the protesters are complying; but guys living there witnessing events first hand are in a better position to comment. Look back a few posts and I believe you will find some posts confirming that the protests are having no impact on the parts of the city mongers flock to.I was here when the city was burning, here for a Coup, here for a Curfew, here for part of the flooding period, big deal! Still had fun. During Curfew had to phone girls to come stay with me LT. That was my biggest problem. I wished I was here when the airport was closed so I could be stuck here with good excuse too!
Always collect a few girl phone numbers, just in case encounter a religious holiday when bars and MPs are closed.
BTW, SARS, Bird Flu scares were never an issue too. All these warnings by foreign governments to stay away are ludicrous. They are just covering their asses in case anything should ever happen to any one person.
You are more likely to be killed in a road smash, than be in danger by any of these so called problems.
I have seen before 10th November.
A small campaign in Silom. And all the demonstrators campaigned outskirt of the BKK city. No impact in the flow of normal life. No impact in regular transportation. Far far away from the area we need to be vibrant.
Here we go.
HotShaneHot
11-25-13, 12:48
Absolutely cancel your trip!
Next week I'll be arriving in BKK with glee and gusto! I'll happily take your share.
Seriously, other articles I've read claim the protests are occurring in designated locations and so far the protesters are complying; but guys living there witnessing events first hand are in a better position to comment. Look back a few posts and I believe you will find some posts confirming that the protests are having no impact on the parts of the city mongers flock to.Shit I am live hear
If I not see the news I would never know what's going on in BKK I am live 800km away and it's all good and lots of pussy.
But I am stay in Nana on the 4 th Dec soon and will go out and get some more pussy.
I am hope lots of you will not come hear so I can get some cheap pussy and photos if lots come the price will go up.
I am think it's safer for you stay home.
Hots
arrived from chiang mai today. run into by taxi hotel in s'kvt low number sois was at the speed limit in mid-afternoon. meter fare baht 275 plus baht 50 airport fee and baht 75 tolls.
my inarticulate taxi driver muttered 'corruption, ' and 'mafia, ' all the way in and added 'southampton city good football."
this evening s'kvt street stalls thriving, if you can push your way through the arabs, the indians and the e. europeans all of whom think bargaining is a thoroughly aggressive process with no humour. no indication of any political trouble whatsoever.
gulivers deserted (one fl and three / four ir* couples playing pool)
*ir =instant relationship.
terminal 21 aeon bank disbursing funds w / o 150 baht charge, unless it was hidden.
bier garten packed. quick survey indicated every bloke could have had two girls each. at 1900 i spoke to a couple of fls complaining 'no customer today. ' st, two shot available at 800 baht.
massage ladies increasingly persistent outside their parlours,
as usual at the end of the month when the rent is due.
I wished I was here when the airport was closed so I could be stuck here with good excuse too!This the only thing I concern. Airport closed. Have to stay my gal apartment then.
Another 4 days, counting down.
Naked Gunz
11-25-13, 15:12
90, 000 opponents of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her crisis-hit administration had gathered in three sites in the city's historic centre, calling for her government to be toppled.Hate to see her go. She's a hot piece of azz. (P) MILF. I wonder if Obama tapped that when he was there?
Crackdown in The Dominican Republic.Huh? What's going on there?
Where to go now? Should I cancel my trip to BKK?Check out my report on Nairobi. Lots of sweet ghetto booty for the price of a song!
Paul Kausch
11-25-13, 16:24
I'm enrolled in a US State Dept program for international travelers. I tell them about a trip and they start sending me information. FYI, the just sent me an email alerting me to the protests. No recommendation to change my travel plans.
So it's official we can relax!
Oh, and I've noticed the baht has dropped in the last few days. At this moment it's 32.002 to the US$. Looks like I may be able to afford to upgrade a couple of escorts to a-level ladies.
Greetings Everyone,
I have a sofware modification called "Admin Forced Ignore" that allows me to add members to other member's Ignore List.
It functions exactly the same as your individual "Ignore List" in that you cannot see the posts by members who you add to your list, and they canot send you PMs.
The difference is that I control the usernames on each member's "Admin Forced Ignore" list.
This ability to stop combative members from viewing each other's posts has proven to be the #1 most effective method for quelling arguments.
I look at it like this: If you're too stubborn to place your antagonist's username on your own Ignore List, then I'll do it for you.
However, for those members who are insisent upon arguing with other members and fostering discord on this forum by deliberatly logging out, reading the comments posted by your antagonist, copying said post and then logging back in with the specific intent of responding to said post in your zeal to continue the discord, I have developed a special infraction titled "VAR. Violating Admin Ignore", the 1st violation of which will result in the member's banning for a week, and the 2nd time permanently.
Thanks,
Jax
What I described is how the forum works. There is no guess work involved. It is based entirely on facts. Two forum members, that I know of, have put me on their ignore lists. Now I can no longer see their posts and they can not see my posts. One of these individuals logged off, read one of my posts, copied it, logged back on and created a post in which he pasted the contents of my post and then went on to attack it. Jackson noticed this post, deleted the contents of the post and replaced it with a warning that if he ever did it again he would be banished from the forum.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Syzygies is correct on this point and that PK is not. This problem all started when Jackson changed the forum software. He knows about it but has taken no steps to fix it.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Syzygies, you are the only poster on ISG whose posts I can't view unless I am signed out but I doubt that I'm on your ignore list or that you can't see my posts, as you have replied to mine on occasion. I just have to sign out to see them as I did in this instance. I signed out, came back without logging in, copied your post above, then signed in again and am responding here.
We know now that others are experiencing the same glitch but with different posters. It's a total mystery and I wish Jackson would do something about it. But it has nothing to do whatsoever with the ignore list function.
I'm no expert on how the forum is engineered, but this is what I think is going on. When someone adds you to his ignore list he will no longer see your posts, and you will no longer see his posts. By logging out and going back on the forum without logging back in you will be able to read the posts of the person who is ignoring you. However, be careful about using this as a way to read and replying to a post written by someone who has you on his ignore list. Jackson interprets this as a deliberate attempt to provoke the other person, and will delete your post with a warning that repeat offenses will get you permanently banned from the forum. Whether he will actually do this is another matter.
Greetings Everyone,
I have a sofware modification called "Admin Forced Ignore" that allows me to add members to other member's Ignore List.
It functions exactly the same as your individual "Ignore List" in that you cannot see the posts by members who you add to your list, and they canot send you PMs.
The difference is that I control the usernames on each member's "Admin Forced Ignore" list.
This ability to stop combative members from viewing each other's posts has proven to be the #1 most effective method for quelling arguments.
I look at it like this: If you're too stubborn to place your antagonist's username on your own Ignore List, then I'll do it for you.
However, for those members who are insisent upon arguing with other members and fostering discord on this forum by deliberatly logging out, reading the comments posted by your antagonist, copying said post and then logging back in with the specific intent of responding to said post in your zeal to continue the discord, I have developed a special infraction titled "VAR. Violating Admin Ignore", the 1st violation of which will result in the member's banning for a week, and the 2nd time permanently.
Thanks,
JaxThen this is needed on the Chiang Mai thread (poor Arthur Tick is taking a trashing there) or the Isaan thread or the almost defunct Livingstone's thread or any other thread "scorchin" is on. Since he always seem to find himself in bitching sessions with just about everyone on every thread he visits.
I'm enrolled in a US State Dept program for international travelers. I tell them about a trip and they start sending me information. FYI, the just sent me an email alerting me to the protests. No recommendation to change my travel plans.
So it's official we can relax!
Oh, and I've noticed the baht has dropped in the last few days. At this moment it's 32. 002 to the US$. Looks like I may be able to afford to upgrade a couple of escorts to a-level ladies.Http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/WebServices/Rates/Pages/FX_Rates.aspx
Paul Kausch
11-26-13, 02:33
Http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/WebServices/Rates/Pages/FX_Rates.aspxNow the rate is THB32.069 to US$1. I think it's pretty clear the political unrest has caused the sudden drop so it will probably continue to go lower. Of course this is the official rate, which is not the rate we would get from a bank or money exchange service. Last I checked Superrich1965 was 31.75 at the sub branches. Several months ago I read that the smart guys are predicting the baht well eventually settle in at about 32. 4,
Greetings Everyone,
I have a sofware modification called "Admin Forced Ignore" that allows me to add members to other member's Ignore List.Thank you, Jackson, for finally revealing this little secret. I know Amin prefers direct correspondence by the contact function, but I've done that about this on at least two separate occasions but received no response. Hence, the matter has remained a mystery until now.
Of course you have the absolute right to run your forum any way you like and I appreciate that. The mystery is why this important and rather draconian rule is not set forth and explained in the Forum Rules. If the purpose is to discourage and minimize arguments and antagonism it might be better to disclose your decision and reasoning in the rule book so that we can all benefit from it with knowledge of the consequences.
It functions exactly the same as your individual "Ignore List" in that you cannot see the posts by members who you add to your list, and they canot send you PMs.Well, not quite. The individual 'Ignore List' function at least advises that the person you want to ignore has posted but you can't see it because he is on your ignore list. Also that person can still see your posts and does not know that he is on your ignore list. That's a big difference.
The difference is that I control the usernames on each member's "Admin Forced Ignore" list.
This ability to stop combative members from viewing each other's posts has proven to be the #1 most effective method for quelling arguments.
I look at it like this: If you're too stubborn to place your antagonist's username on your own Ignore List, then I'll do it for you.That is all well and good, but there is still a big mystery here as to why this 'nuclear option' is employed in situations where there is no history whatsoever of any antagonism between the posters. In my own case, for example, Syzigies is the only poster whose posts I can't view so you have apparently forced him and I onto your nuclear 'Ignore List. ' But there is no history of any combative or argumentative posts between us; he's not on my ignore list; I'm not on his ignore list; he can view and respond to all my posts, but I can't view his.
Why is that? Can you fix it?
However, for those members who are insisent upon arguing with other members and fostering discord on this forum by deliberatly logging out, reading the comments posted by your antagonist, copying said post and then logging back in with the specific intent of responding to said post in your zeal to continue the discord, I have developed a special infraction titled "VAR. Violating Admin Ignore", the 1st violation of which will result in the member's banning for a week, and the 2nd time permanently.
Thanks, JaxOnce again, the 'VAR, ' as you call it is not in the ISG forum rules yet it seems important enough that it be explained there if the purpose is to discourage antagonistic conduct.
Here, I must confess that I'm guilty of 'VAR, ' having just recently committed the criminal act with respect to one of Syzigies posts – the same one which you reference in your Administrative post. Thank you for not banning me for a week this time and I assure you I'll not do it again now that I know the fatal consequences.
Please also forgive me for directing my comments on the forum instead of contacting Administration, but I've tried that method twice without any response.
Best regards, and with all due respect, Daddy07
Paul Kausch
11-26-13, 03:11
Greetings Everyone,
I have a software modification called "Admin Forced Ignore" that allows me to add members to other member's Ignore List.
However, for those members who are insistent upon arguing with other members and fostering discord on this forum by deliberately logging out, reading the comments posted by your antagonist, copying said post and then logging back in with the specific intent of responding to said post in your zeal to continue the discord, I have developed a special infraction titled "VAR. Violating Admin Ignore", the 1st violation of which will result in the member's banning for a week, and the 2nd time permanently.
Thanks,
JaxAh ha! I didn't realize this was something Jackson created for his use. I thought the other rascals were ignoring me. I didn't realize it was all Jackson's doing. ;)
So now I wonder how the regular ignore function works. If I designate someone to be ignored will neither of us see the other's posts? It would seem someone could use this same method to circumvent a member's use of the ignore function. Would that person also be banned?
Personally, I don't get offended when people get after me. It does me no harm. I don't take them seriously. They usually make me laugh; and I intend my replies to be laughed at. However, I understand people have different degrees of sensitivity. Some people are hurt when they are attacked, especially if there is no reason for the attack other than to make the person feel bad. It is nice to see that when some rude curmudgeon unfairly goes after a particular forum member decent fellows on the forum come to the victims defense.
I can understand the need to keep the bickering under control, otherwise the forum would degenerate and membership would drop.
Paul Kausch
11-26-13, 03:18
By the way, I stumbled upon a way to make smilies work. In the past when I inserted the appropriate characters such as a semi-colon and close parenthesis, when I would upload the report the characters would be deleted and there would be no smilies. However, if after posting the report I can use the edit function to insert the characters, when I upload the edited report the smilies appear. Boy am I proud of myself for figuring that out.
I can also use this technique to get rid of the space inserted into a string of numbers with a decimal point.
Hate to see her go. She's a hot piece of azz. (P) MILF. I wonder if Obama tapped that when he was there?
!Negative. Obama is said to be gay.
Negative. Obama is said to be gay.There is some real crap stupid right wing Republican crap posted on here.
Get with it. He is the President of the USA and black, brown, white, catholic. Protestant or whatever . No way is he gay.
By the way, I stumbled upon a way to make smilies work. In the past when I inserted the appropriate characters such as a semi-colon and close parenthesis, when I would upload the report the characters would be deleted and there would be no smilies. However, if after posting the report I can use the edit function to insert the characters, when I upload the edited report the smilies appear. Boy am I proud of myself for figuring that out.
I can also use this technique to get rid of the space inserted into a string of numbers with a decimal point.Most of us have known this for a very long time. ;) The forum has an automatic spelling corrupter, that stuffs up lots of words and puts in silly words that were not intended. The best thing to do before posting, is to do a "Select All", then "Copy" (to copy buffer area). After posting and your post has been corrupted (it always is) , you simply Edit, remove the entire contents of the text, and paste the whole post text you copied back into the post and Save.
All the automatic corruptions are then undone. Its always a good idea to Copy entire text of a post anyway in case the forum malfunctions after you typed a lot.
With this approach you don't have to individually correct each corruption done by the automatic software in turn. You achieve it all in one hit. :D
Ah ha! I didn't realize this was something Jackson created for his use. I thought the other rascals were ignoring me. I didn't realize it was all Jackson's doing. .
So now I wonder how the regular ignore function works. If I designate someone to be ignored will neither of us see the other's posts? It would seem someone could use this same method to circumvent a member's use of the ignore function. Would that person also be banned?At least you are admitting there is a chance you don't know everything after all. We all have our theories, but sometimes they don't cover all behaviours. None of us understand all the forum malfunctions fully.
Lets perform a simple test. Can you read my posts?
Here is what an ignore list person's post looks like:
Paul Kausch
Senior Member
This message is hidden because Paul Kausch is on your ignore list.
View Post.
Remove user from ignore list
I doubt that this was the behaviour that Scorchin was seeing when he described missing posts.
Paul Kausch
11-27-13, 00:15
Most of us have known this for a very long time. ;)
At least you are admitting there is a chance you don't know everything after all.I know enough to realize how little I know. Sometimes I do stupid very. I think its hilarious when after 600 plus posts I finally figure out some really simple things.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1500951.
I doubt that this was the behaviour that Scorchin was seeing when he described missing posts.[/QUOTE]
Chiang Mai thread. When I open ISG I get three columns, the country, the area or thread subject and the name of the last per on to post.
I see A Tick has posted.
I open Chiang Mai thread and this post is not shown.
Whilst I agree with PK that only wimps can put people on their ignore list (and thus avoid reading my posts) but cannot understand why I cannot read their posts.
But, as I said earlier, I can't be *rs*the to go through any devious hoops to find the answer.
I know enough to realize how little I know. Sometimes I do stupid very. I think its hilarious when after 600 plus posts I finally figure out some really simple things.So the Ignore Function was not bi-directional after all? You were on my Ignore List for a period of the test. LOL. Yet you could still see my post, as expected.
Chiang Mai thread. When I open ISG I get three columns, the country, the area or thread subject and the name of the last per on to post.
I see A Tick has posted.
I open Chiang Mai thread and this post is not shown.
Whilst I agree with PK that only wimps can put people on their ignore list (and thus avoid reading my posts) but cannot understand why I cannot read their posts.
But, as I said earlier, I can't be *rs*the to go through any devious hoops to find the answer.I described the behaviour exactly to this well known Forum problem, we gave you the answer straight off, but you didn't want it. You liked the "Ignore List" Red Herring.
The real reason people use Ignore Lists can be simple like someone is on a mobile phone device which squashes and elongates posts, and doesn't want to scroll though massive amounts of text when someone posts really large reports. So someone potentially could have put Kumbu on an ignore list just because too lazy to read his very extended reports. Admin can envisage many purposes for Ignore function. Its ignorant to label everyone that uses "Ignore" as whimps. Its often just about being too lazy to read or scroll through a large quantity of total rubbish that has been produced in the past by total raving nutters. We have had some of these, perhaps not so much recently. WestBySun was one I found to write totally senseless rubbish. Thankfully the total nutters eventually go away or get banned for disobeying the rules very blatantly. Everyone has the right to use "Ignore" function if they choose. It does not affect you at all.
Paul Kausch
11-27-13, 03:36
So the Ignore Function was not bi-directional after all? You were on my Ignore List for a period of the test. LOL. Yet you could still see my post, as expected.I knew you were a clever rascal.
I knew you were a clever rascal.Just been on the forum too many years.
Paul Kausch
11-27-13, 04:41
Just been on the forum too many years.Glad your still posting away. :)
Today had a political demonstration outside Terminal 21 in Sukhumvit. Was very hard to get a taxi willing to go from Soi 19 to Emporium. Getting a motorcycle was still easy as they can use back Sois easily.
Also had a scholl marching band going along Sukhumvit Road near Soi 31 going towards Asoke. Not sure if relevant to the demonstration.
Since I live off Soi 19 you are 100% correct. Abhisit and his crowd marched from the Asoke Station to the USA Embassy. For what darn purpose does the USA got to do with these muddled politics is beyond me. Other than USA being the face of Satan (but everyone, or a lot, want in). Abhisit posted a picture of his self riding Sky Train on his face book telling folks to follow him to the embassy.
The Asoke station, Chidlom station and Siam Stations are favorite meeting grounds for the Sutep / Abhisit crowd. According to the BTS Supervisor I am seeing on the side.
Today had a political demonstration outside Terminal 21 in Sukhumvit. Was very hard to get a taxi willing to go from Soi 19 to Emporium. Getting a motorcycle was still easy as they can use back Sois easily.
Also had a scholl marching band going along Sukhumvit Road near Soi 31 going towards Asoke. Not sure if relevant to the demonstration.
Wolvenvacht
12-01-13, 13:42
Suvarnabhumi Airport opened a special telephone number to get information about service interruptions: 02 132 9999
It is available day and night.
Unless of course, that service gets interrupted ... ;)
Negative. Obama is said to be gay.I doubt it but he does support gay marriage. Meanwhile, any big boob sightings in BKK or HKT? No trannys. I will be there Dec 23. Jan 1. If anyone wants to meet up for a Christmas brew and swap stories kindly let me know!
I doubt it but he does support gay marriage. Meanwhile, any big boob sightings in BKK or HKT? No trannys. I will be there Dec 23. Jan 1. If anyone wants to meet up for a Christmas brew and swap stories kindly let me know!There are always some big tits around somewhere. Crazy House has one girl with big natural (I think) tits that are possibly a D cup.
Naked Gunz
12-01-13, 18:31
I doubt it but he does support gay marriage. Meanwhile, any big boob sightings in BKK or HKT? No trannys. I will be there Dec 23. Jan 1. If anyone wants to meet up for a Christmas brew and swap stories kindly let me know!Try Soi 13/1. She works in go go on that Soi. Bolt ons. BTW there is also a 1/2 Brazilian. 1/2 Thai there too. Should not be hard to find.
Wolvenvacht
12-01-13, 20:35
(...) According to the BTS Supervisor I am seeing on the side.Oooh, a girl in uniform. How did you met her?
Yes, I do have a thing for a girl in a uniform. Friday night it was a government worker and she said I go home change before I see you. I said no need to and she showed up in her official uniform. Wednesday is the day I am looking forward too. A anesthesia nurse from Sakeo is driving 200km to meet up. As from where? Thai Friendly.
Oooh, a girl in uniform. How did you met her?
Thanks, NG. I'll report on her if I find her.
Try Soi 13/1. She works in go go on that Soi. Bolt ons. BTW there is also a 1/2 Brazilian. 1/2 Thai there too. Should not be hard to find.
OK thanks Syz. I appreciate the tip.
There are always some big tits around somewhere. Crazy House has one girl with big natural (I think) tits that are possibly a D cup.
New Old Guy
12-02-13, 17:09
has anyone seen the army interrupt all channels today affer lunch for a long speech. that was a little chilling.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism/381816/23-countries-issue-special-travel-advice-on-thailand-political-protests
Twenty-three countries have issued special travel advice urging citizens visiting Thailand to be cautious, but protest leaders insist their actions will not damage tourism and are offering to explain their cause to international observers. Anti-government protesters take control of Ratchadamnoen Avenue, an area many countries suggested their citizens to avoid. (Photo by Thanarak Khoonton)
The Foreign Ministry on Tuesday unveiled a survey of 68 countries, of which 23 are warning travellers about political protests in Thailand. The countries that have issued travel advisory notices include the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore. Only South Korea had updated information to its citizens on Tuesday, while the United States, France, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and China last amended their information for travellers on Monday, according to the ministry.
Most of the 23 countries have issued general warnings telling their citizens about ongoing political protests in Thailand, although a number have specified areas to be avoided, including the US which suggests Americans should be careful near government agencies. Brazil has cautioned its nationals against visiting the Grand Palace and areas surrounding protest rallies at Democracy Monument. Diplomats from 56 countries and representatives of six international organisations were at the ministry on Tuesday for a briefing on the political situation after the government decided to impose the Internal Security Act (ISA) across all districts of Bangkok and Nonthaburi. Bang Phli district of Samut Prakan and Lat Lum Kaeo district of Pathum Thani have also been placed under the act.
Sihasak Phuangketkao, permanent secretary for foreign affairs, told the diplomats why the ISA had been invoked and urged them not to alarm potential visitors to the country by making sure any travel advisory statements are factually correct. Mr Sihasak said the 23 countries that have issued travel warnings have not prohibited citizens from visiting Thailand, but merely told travellers to avoid protest locations. Protest spokesman Akanat Promphan said the rallies would not deter tourists from coming to Thailand since they are being help peacefully without weapons.
He said protesters will not try to shut down Suvarnabhumi airport to force government out of office. The airport is in Bang Phli, which is already under the ISA. Mr Akanat called on other countries and international organisations including the United Nations to observe the protests. Protest leaders are ready to explain the need to bring to an end to the 'Thaksin regime' to help them understand the situation, he added.
Johnthescot
12-05-13, 03:11
Hey guys, been a while since been over there. Wondering what the difference is in prices of laptops of similar spec in Thailand compared to UK? Could buy new one here for leaving UK on Saturday or wait til I get to Bangkok or Pattaya. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
JohnTheScot
Hey guys, been a while since been over there. Wondering what the difference is in prices of laptops of similar spec in Thailand compared to UK? Could buy new one here for leaving UK on Saturqday or wait til I get to Bangkok or Pattaya. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
JohnTheScotSelection is poorer and prices are higher. You can recoup a little with vat refund but you will be stuck with the Thai keyboard. If you need something to stay connected buy a tablet, no keyboard and prices are more competitive.
Mr Enternational
12-05-13, 15:30
Selection is poorer and prices are higher. You can recoup a little with vat refund but you will be stuck with the Thai keyboard. If you need something to stay connected buy a tablet, no keyboard and prices are more competitive.However when buying a phone or a tablet, remember that Thailand does not yet have 4G. So 3G is the best device you will get.
Johnthescot
12-05-13, 16:15
Selection is poorer and prices are higher. You can recoup a little with vat refund but you will be stuck with the Thai keyboard. If you need something to stay connected buy a tablet, no keyboard and prices are more competitive.Thanks Marcos. Have an iPad and iPhone but was planning on getting a new laptop for work anyway and just wondered if should wait til I got there. Guess I'll just buy one in Uk tomorrow and find a nice gogo bar with wifi on Sunday to set it up while watching lovely young ladies. .
John
Just comparing ISG photo threads of Vietnam vs Thailand, it's a slam dunk in favor of Vietnam females IMO.
The percentage of hot P4P ladies is higher with Viet ladies in Singapore than what you see with TGs in LOS.
From the relatively few VN women I've been with, their top performers actually bested anything I've had in Siam.
The top performing 3 star hotels in VN also seem to offer way more value than in the land of the Shins.
Many large protest gatherings today. Traffic seriously disrupted. Procession from Phrom pong heading to Asoke has just past. Not much cars on Sukhumwit road mainly motorcycles.
Large gathering at Sukhumwit patumwan and another at Silom. All the processions are leading to converge on the central government house official residence ( Thai equivalent of the Whitehouse), phitsanulok road central Bangkok.
Member #4698
12-09-13, 04:57
Many large protest gatherings today. Traffic seriously disrupted. Procession from Phrom pong heading to Asoke has just past. Not much cars on Sukhumwit road mainly motorcycles.
Large gathering at Sukhumwit patumwan and another at Silom. All the processions are leading to converge on the central government house official residence (Thai equivalent of the Whitehouse) , phitsanulok road central Bangkok.Things could get interesting:
Thai Premier Seeks to Dissolve Parliament.
Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Monday said she has asked for royal approval to dissolve the country's Parliament and call fresh elections as soon as possible in a bid to defuse Thailand's worsening political crisis.
Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, a former deputy prime minister, urged the people of Bangkok to take to the streets in a fresh push to curb the influence of Mr. Thaksin, whom they accuse of running the country from his self-imposed exile.
The opposition's move to abandon Parliament threatened to propel Thailand—Southeast Asia's second-largest economy—into further chaos. It also raised the possibility that the Democrats might opt to boycott any new election, creating a potential constitutional crisis.
It is unclear whether the Democrat Party will participate in the new election, which many analysts say Ms. Yingluck's ruling Pheu Thai Party is likely to win thanks to its strong support base in Thailand's rural heartlands. The Democrats boycotted a national vote in 2006, shortly before the coup that removed Mr. Thaksin, leading Thai courts to nullify a snap election that he had called to dissipate protests against his often heavy-handed rule. In many electoral districts, voter turnout failed to meet minimum levels mandated by Thai election laws.
Joshua Kurlantzick, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations, was among those who predicted that many Democrat Party politicians won't endorse the election. The party hasn't won a national poll since 1992."They want a return to an unelected or technocratic government somehow," he said.
The opposition's move to abandon Parliament threatened to propel Thailand—Southeast Asia's second-largest economy—into further chaos. It also raised the possibility that the Democrats might opt to boycott any new election, creating a potential constitutional crisis.
It is unclear whether the Democrat Party will participate in the new election, which many analysts say Ms. Yingluck's ruling Pheu Thai Party is likely to win thanks to its strong support base in Thailand's rural heartlands.The problem with an election, is getting a fair one. Many simple rural people, quite comfortable with corruption, can be paid to vote for the current Government. The fact that corruption and crazy schemes is helping bankrupt Thailand, seems to be beyond their thought process. All (most) the village heads have thrived on corruption for so long.
Meanwhile Sukhumvit seems to be flowing okay now that procession has moved well past.
Is it safe to come to Thailand during this time of political unrest & naval gazing? Yes, as always.
"Nothing can scare tourists away from Thailand. Just like you can't scare flies away from a fresh turd."
"An excellent line for TAT to use in an advertising campaign."
"A change in government only means that another troop of chimps can come in and raid the coffers for a while."
So it's business as usual, with P4P gals upping their rates to compensate for lack of customers.
Beer Monger
12-09-13, 20:50
Things could get interesting:
Thai Premier Seeks to Dissolve Parliament.
Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.I'd do her! Wonder if she gives good head of state!
Oliver Kitsoff
12-10-13, 20:01
Is it safe to come to Thailand during this time of political unrest & naval gazing? Yes, as always.
"Nothing can scare tourists away from Thailand. Just like you can't scare flies away from a fresh turd."
So it's business as usual, with P4P gals upping their rates to compensate for lack of customers.Apart from the first two remarks contradicting the third, why would anyone with any experience of LOS pay higher rates knowing there were less customers to go around? Have you ever tried the 'walk away' tactic with the cash-strapped ying? Pussy is a commodity, the law of supply and demand is universal. Negotiate!
See you at the fire sales next week!
Apart from the first two remarks contradicting the third, why would anyone with any experience of LOS pay higher rates knowing there were less customers to go around? Have you ever tried the 'walk away' tactic with the cash-strapped ying? Pussy is a commodity, the law of supply and demand is universal. Negotiate!
See you at the fire sales next week!It is fairly well known that girls try to get more money than usual when business is down. It is not always easy to get fire sale prices. Depends how desperate the girl is and how smart. Some girls just refuse to drop prices. You will also be considered an a hole for trying to take advantage of low business so may not get best service if your price is too low. It's more about keeping the girl in a good mood than fire sales.
The law of supply and demand works well for goods but not so well for services. Cut the money you probably get a cut service. Pay well over the expected rate and you don't necessarily get extra service. You just get the girl very keen to repeat and give you priority if she is in demand.
Apart from the first two remarks contradicting the third, why would anyone with any experience of LOS pay higher rates knowing there were less customers to go around? Have you ever tried the 'walk away' tactic with the cash-strapped ying? Pussy is a commodity, the law of supply and demand is universal. Negotiate!
See you at the fire sales next week!Well, not really. Let's take the oilies for example. There are far more than there were 5 years ago and logic would dictate that service levels would be improving because of competition. The opposite is true. Why? There are some shops that don't really have service standards. CBJs are tolerated, etc. Therefore the better looking girls flock to the shops where they can do less and the PSE shops can no longer require that "all girls do everything," as every semi-looker would leave if they did. So the competition has actually been a losing game for the consumer.
Is it safe to come to Thailand during this time of political unrest & naval gazing? Yes, as always.
"Nothing can scare tourists away from Thailand. Just like you can't scare flies away from a fresh turd."
"An excellent line for TAT to use in an advertising campaign."
"A change in government only means that another troop of chimps can come in and raid the coffers for a while."
So it's business as usual, with P4P gals upping their rates to compensate for lack of customers.BKK is very slow with tourists for this time of year. It should be heaving.
You seem to ramble on so often and I have short attention span but this caught my eye.
You will also be considered an a hole for trying to take advantage of low business so may not get best service if your price is too low. It's more about keeping the girl in a good mood than fire sales.So what are you saying? If I want a girl I have to keep her in a good mood in order to pay the low market rate?
I think, if she fails to perform the door will hit her ass on the way out and she would leave with less than she thought she would receive.
Were you thinking something different?
Well, not really. Let's take the oilies for example. There are far more than there were 5 years ago and logic would dictate that service levels would be improving because of competition. The opposite is true. Why? There are some shops that don't really have service standards. CBJs are tolerated, etc. Therefore the better looking girls flock to the shops where they can do less and the PSE shops can no longer require that "all girls do everything," as every semi-looker would leave if they did. So the competition has actually been a losing game for the consumer.I also tend to believe that over 50% of the business is made by one-off or non repeat customers, by default, not by customer strategy not to return in a place where he did not get much. Definition of "much" has also to be defined. What is the general tourist monger expecting? How many people expects just a HJ at a massage?
There is a high turn over of tourists coming and going every day in BKK. The majority is a new comer and might not come back anyhow.
So the service is just average as anyhow the MP has achieved what they look for: add another number (customer) to the daily count and then "who's next?" - they are certain less service oriented to acquire a regular clientele.
The next will be another occasional customer and so on so and so on.
Probably if you repeat, and you have to make yourself identified as repeat customer, etiher with the reception or with the girl, this means at least 3-4 times, you will be "the customer".
You might not repeat if the first time the service was louzym but sometime you factor it to a specific moment and gieve them another chance. So you go a second time.
Oliver Kitsoff
12-12-13, 01:11
It is fairly well known that girls try to get more money than usual when business is down.I have been goin to BKK from 2009 (GFC ground zero) until early 2012 I never saw a price hike. I usually ask and get B1000 short time, cum twice, take pics. When I find one like this and if she is any good, I'm 'loyal' I'll see her again, let her sleep over, buy room service, but the deal is B1000. She knows she's getting a luxury stayover, royal thai food, and B1000 still goes a very long way in TG land. I also generally set the girls at ease and buy them drinks and to be honest try to get them a little tipsy, I can make them laugh, and have basic thai so by the time I get to the room she's a tipsy GFE. I give taxi tips, I buy their cigarettes, I have even bought azithromycin for one with signs of an infection.
It is not always easy to get fire sale prices. Depends how desperate the girl is and how smart. Some girls just refuse to drop prices. You will also be considered an a hole for trying to take advantage of low business so may not get best service if your price is too low. It's more about keeping the girl in a good mood than fire sales.
[QUOTE/] Which I've just explained how to do. Sure I still 'pay' in other ways, but my extras 'lubricate' or 'sweeten' the deal rather than 'here's B2000 now here's my list of sexual demands'
[QUOTE]The law of supply and demand works well for goods but not so well for services. Cut the money you probably get a cut service. Pay well over the expected rate and you don't necessarily get extra service. You just get the girl very keen to repeat and give you priority if she is in demand.Perhaps, and there is some merit to your argument Syzygies, but when you do the walk away (with a smile) you leave the door open to getting a good price a little later in the evening if she does no better, or going back and eating a little crow just to eat some pussy, but I'd hazard that this would likely be the time you'll get less bang for your buck, because, she won the baht game.
BKK is very slow with tourists for this time of year. It should be heaving.That's good to hear & not surprising in light of the protests, Chinese fear of them, Russians boycotting, travel warnings by dozens of countries, news reports of ongoing violence in BKK & other areas of LOS. It could easily escalate into total chaos, civil war, attacks against foreigners. There have also been bombings around New Years in recent years.
Therefore anyone with travel plans to the area might consider making some alternate arrangements in case all hell breaks loose before they arrive, such as a cheap air asia ticket to another SEA destination. Or just not come at all.
Personally, though, I find the low slow seasons are significantly preferable to the high busy periods, so if things don't get any more insane than they already are, that's a plus.
I am considering retirement next year at age 54. Having visited several places in the world, I am giving some consideration to 3 places. Angeles city PI, Chiang Mai Thailand, or Medellin Colombia.
Having visited all 3 places several times in the past, and upon drawing up lists as to the merits of each location, I have one concern I would like to ask a Retired person in similar circumstance.
I would like to know your long term thoughts of living in a place that you have only visited on vacation, as compared to long term retirement living. More to the point.
1. In AC / Medellin (less so Chiang Mai) for example, are you still going out hitting the bars 3 plus nights a week 1 year into retirement?
2. Do most Expats end up hitting the Bars early in Retirement and then settling down with a steady GF after a few months?
3. Does what seem like a great place for vacation turn out to be a very boring place after a few months?
In essence, does the appeal of the "monger scene" lose its luster after you live there.
Additional data. Do not consider monthly budget as a factor when responding. Also. My plan is to always rent in all locations.
Not looking so much for Opine on location. But sage advice I. E. Short vacation vs long term reality.
Where would you recommend to go if you are looking for good golf Courses and P4P?
Please PM me.
/Kirsia
While I've never been to your two other choices, I'm please with my move to CM. I came here first on holiday and decided to return for longer stays to look more closely. I spent ten years in Bali and would monger 2-4 times a week there (I'm almost 62) and while I do partake most every day in Bangkok, I've only mongered about once a month here. The quality and cost is different than Bali and most importantly for me there is plenty to do here. There's something going on most every night of the week and special festivals every two weeks. The everyday food is good and cheap, for higher quality food there is not so much. There have been no big surprises for me from holidaying to living, but that is for me and I've also lived 10 years in SE Asia. At the other end of the spectrum, Bali is a great place to holiday, but boring as hell to live. I'm very pleased here.
Hope this helps,
- jij.
I am considering retirement next year at age 54. Having visited several places in the world, I am giving some consideration to 3 places. Angeles city PI, Chiang Mai Thailand, or Medellin Colombia.
Having visited all 3 places several times in the past, and upon drawing up lists as to the merits of each location, I have one concern I would like to ask a Retired person in similar circumstance.
I would like to know your long term thoughts of living in a place that you have only visited on vacation, as compared to long term retirement living. More to the point.
1. In AC / Medellin (less so Chiang Mai) for example, are you still going out hitting the bars 3 plus nights a week 1 year into retirement?
2. Do most Expats end up hitting the Bars early in Retirement and then settling down with a steady GF after a few months?
3. Does what seem like a great place for vacation turn out to be a very boring place after a few months?
In essence, does the appeal of the "monger scene" lose its luster after you live there.
Additional data. Do not consider monthly budget as a factor when responding. Also. My plan is to always rent in all locations.
Not looking so much for Opine on location. But sage advice I. E. Short vacation vs long term reality.
While I've never been to your two other choices, I'm please with my move to CM. I came here first on holiday and decided to return for longer stays to look more closely. I spent ten years in Bali and would monger 2-4 times a week there (I'm almost 62) and while I do partake most every day in Bangkok, I've only mongered about once a month here. The quality and cost is different than Bali and most importantly for me there is plenty to do here. There's something going on most every night of the week and special festivals every two weeks. The everyday food is good and cheap, for higher quality food there is not so much. There have been no big surprises for me from holidaying to living, but that is for me and I've also lived 10 years in SE Asia. At the other end of the spectrum, Bali is a great place to holiday, but boring as hell to live. I'm very pleased here.
Hope this helps,
- jij.Thank you for your post. I too have been interested in CM. However, I have heard that they burn the sugar cane fields starting about February and continues for a considerable time frame, if I remember correctly. I don't know how much of the area is affected by it, but I have heard it is nasty. If you have any knowledge of that I would like to hear about it or hopefully you can update us on that when it happens. Good luck in your new location.
While I've never heard sugar cane, there is burn off and it is nasty. I did experience it last year, still too I decided to make this home. I've never been to PI, but my brother has and say's that it's just filth there. He too decided to live in Thailand after a year or more in PI, but in Hua Hin. To each their own, but there is no comparison for me of Colombia to Asia, especially the women and food, but thank God we all have different wants.
- jij.
Thank you for your post. I too have been interested in CM. However, I have heard that they burn the sugar cane fields starting about February and continues for a considerable time frame, if I remember correctly. I don't know how much of the area is affected by it, but I have heard it is nasty. If you have any knowledge of that I would like to hear about it or hopefully you can update us on that when it happens. Good luck in your new location.
Where would you recommend to go if you are looking for good golf Courses and P4P?
Please PM me.
/KirsiaAny particular side of LOS you are interested in seeing / staying?
Pattaya has a VERY active golf clubs / bars where there is all transport / green, caddy fees posted right outside their door. No need to detail the p4p here ....
A no brainer . Just show up a couple days early, pay your transport fees (garantees your spot) , then show up at the bar ussally between 9-11'ish am returning anywhere from 4-6pm.
Just google : Pattaya sports club
. How many tourists in LOS are single men.
Discussion about politics and military coups is irrelevent to the tourism industry.
Prostitution (male and female) has been the bread & butter of this countries foreign exchange takings for decades.
Take prostitutes out of the equation and Pattaya, Hua Hin Bangkok will become ghost towns.
It would also cause a massive decline in T / T remittances to all Isan provinces.
The government would be forced to look after those idiots instead of farangs.Hopefully other SEA countries will pay serious attention to this & start allowing their "natural resources" to be mined.
Especially Vietnam. It's such a waste.
However, I have heard that they burn the sugar cane fields starting about February and continues for a considerable time frame, if I remember correctly.It's more than just cane, and it's godawful. Starts around February and goes on till the rains bring some relief around July. Combined with the hot season heat, smog, and dust, it's pretty unbearable. In fact several old friends there are finally leaving the place due to concerns about the air quality on their children.
People tend to visit CM for the first time in the cool season and they think, ah, this is nice weather, I could live here. But anybody who wants to live there full-time should first check it out during the other eight or nine months of the year.
It's more than just cane, and it's godawful. Starts around February and goes on till the rains bring some relief around July. Combined with the hot season heat, smog, and dust, it's pretty unbearable. In fact several old friends there are finally leaving the place due to concerns about the air quality on their children.
People tend to visit CM for the first time in the cool season and they think, ah, this is nice weather, I could live here. But anybody who wants to live there full-time should first check it out during the other eight or nine months of the year.Does it start before, on or after CM Flower Festival weekend (first weekend of February)?
Where in Bangkok can I buy some ding dong? I'm planning a trip to Vietnam next year & would like about 7 million. I'm hoping to walk in the bank a pauper & walk out a millionaire.
Do you think TGs will accept 1000 dong in place of 1000 baht, or are they too bright for that.
To bank teller: I want some ding dong.
Crocodilexp
12-20-13, 19:30
Where in Bangkok can I buy some ding dong? I'm planning a trip to Vietnam next year & would like about 7 million. I'm hoping to walk in the bank a pauper & walk out a millionaire.
If you absolutely have to get VND Bangkok, then Super Rich in a small soi near Big C Rachadamri (across from Central World) is your best bet. Availability varies, I got my big dong there once, but they were out of stock the second time around. If that fails, I'd try Sukhumwit Soi 3/1 (Soi Arab) -- there are a dozen small exchange places and they stock all kinds of oddities (once upon a time I needed loonie and toonie coins, and yup, found them there).
It's far easier to exchange THB for VND once you're in Vietnam (Saigon at least. Probably not easy out in the boonies). However, the rate for THB cash is not amazing, you will do much better to exchange USD cash... or use an ATM card. Thai ATM cards usually work in VN if they have the Visa / MasterCard logo.
BTW, it's good to have about 10, 000 dong or so ready for the airport bus, or get ready to be asked 300, 000 for the taxi (of course, the real price is 1/3 of that).
Mr Enternational
12-20-13, 21:57
It's far easier to exchange THB for VND once you're in Vietnam (Saigon at least. Probably not easy out in the boonies). However, the rate for THB cash is not amazing, you will do much better to exchange USD cash. Or use an ATM card. Thai ATM cards usually work in VN if they have the Visa / MasterCard logo.
BTW, it's good to have about 10, 000 dong or so ready for the airport bus, or get ready to be asked 300, 000 for the taxi (of course, the real price is 1/3 of that).In most countries you are generally going to get ripped off if you are exchanging any currency other than dollars, euro, pounds, or yen. I got fucked coming back from Indonesia changing rupiah directly into Thai baht instead of into dollars. For Vietnam, I suggest changing $20 once you arrive just to get you to your hotel. Then when you get to the hotel ask for the closest 7/11. The ATMs inside the 7/11s allow you to draw out 8 million dong at a time, whereas the bank ATMs will only allow you to withdraw 2 million at a time. Remember you will also need $20 cash to pay for the visa on arrival. Take Vinasun or Mai Linh taxis in order to not get ripped off.
In most countries you are generally going to get ripped off if you are exchanging any currency other than dollars, euro, pounds, or yen. I got fucked coming back from Indonesia changing rupiah directly into Thai baht instead of into dollars. For Vietnam, I suggest changing $20 once you arrive just to get you to your hotel. Then when you get to the hotel ask for the closest 7/11. The ATMs inside the 7/11s allow you to draw out 8 million dong at a time, whereas the bank ATMs will only allow you to withdraw 2 million at a time. Remember you will also need $20 cash to pay for the visa on arrival. Take Vinasun or Mai Linh taxis in order to not get ripped off.Thailand is full of 7 eleven stores, but does Vietnam really have any?
"In fact, the presence of 7 Eleven in Vietnam is foreseeable. Foreign investors, believing that the Thai brand would come to Vietnam sooner or later, have been trying to expand their networks to get stronger."
"Last update 11:39 | 11/12/2013"
http://dongtalk.com/2013/12/11/7-eleven-does-warm-up-before-entering-vietnam/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Eleven
Regarding ATM limits:
"Current amounts that can be withdrawn at any one time is usually very low. 2,000, 000 Dong with a 20, 000 Dong additional usage charge. ANZ ATM's appear to have the max payout so far, around 10. 000. 000 in one hit, followed by HSBC with a max of 4, 800, 000 Dong but with 100. 000d fees. Donga can go up to 5. 000. 000 Dong but it only accepts card from the Visa circuit, no MasterCard. In HCMC Commonwealth Bank (Australia) 8. 000. 000 Dong, no fees. 4 ATMs around Bui Vien St, Agribank allows 3mil at 20, 000."
"There is nothing to stop you putting your card back in to get more money out, but remember you are still subject to your own bank's daily cash withdrawal limits, about 500E for Maestro / MasterCard nextwork in Europe, and you pay your bank fee every time. Also, ensure you tell your bank before travelling to Vietnam if you intend to use your card to withdraw cash from ATM's. The machines here use the magnetic strip not the more secure chip technology."
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g293921-s601/Vietnam:Banks.And.Money.html
It seems VN in various ways lags decades behind LOS.
It's more than just cane, and it's godawful. Starts around February and goes on till the rains bring some relief around July. Combined with the hot season heat, smog, and dust, it's pretty unbearable. In fact several old friends there are finally leaving the place due to concerns about the air quality on their children.
People tend to visit CM for the first time in the cool season and they think, ah, this is nice weather, I could live here. But anybody who wants to live there full-time should first check it out during the other eight or nine months of the year.Personally, I am not so keen on the Thai weather from Feb through to maybe May due to the heat, and this applies to Chiangmai also. Those living in Thailand should consider being close to the ocean for cool breeze possibilities. Bangkok does not seem to be as hot in direct sun as it used to be 20 years ago. I believe this is due to the smog preventing the direct sunlight being as powerful as it used to be.
Smog is not so bad at the seaside generally. Easy to get sunburned badly in just 20 mins around midday in Phuket.
Thailand does have a lot of dust in comparison to cooler countries. Dust arrives very quickly in the house.
There are a lot of them out there these days. Reading reports and seeing some pictures here it would seem it may not be possible to know for sure who is who.
Do most of the members here care so much, as long as the report is useful? I'm not sure if this discussion is welcome or not, so I apologize in advance if this is something not welcome on here.
There are a lot of them out there these days. Reading reports and seeing some pictures here it would seem it may not be possible to know for sure who is who.
Do most of the members here care so much, as long as the report is useful? I'm not sure if this discussion is welcome or not, so I apologize in advance if this is something not welcome on here.Some are very obvious, almost all are obvious but a few may be difficult. Just do what I do, politely ask them and you will get a polite reply, yea or nay.and they will be honest
There are a lot of them out there these days. Reading reports and seeing some pictures here it would seem it may not be possible to know for sure who is who.
Do most of the members here care so much, as long as the report is useful? I'm not sure if this discussion is welcome or not, so I apologize in advance if this is something not welcome on here.I've never been with a LB, accidentally or otherwise. As mentioned, most are obvious. There was one I talked to in Bangkok once I didn't know was one until I talked with her. Her voice gave it away.
Another option is to ask them or ask to see their I. D. Card. All people born male will have Mr on the I. D, even post ops.
If there is any doubt, just move on.
Oliver Kitsoff
12-22-13, 01:19
Bangkok post says mass 'shut-down' of Bangkok planned today, Sunday 22nd Dec. By Anti-Thaksin demonstrations, this is, by the yellow-shirts' own admission, a strategy to gauge support for their cause, and also inspire their provincial cadres, where support is less strong, to maintain the rage.
There are about 5 rallies planned across the Big Mango at strategic crossroads according to the Post, and the nearest affecting us is Asoke, better known as the vicinity of Soi Cowboy.
So depending on who and how many show up, they may be something of a non-event. In any case, they are likely to be over by nightfall.
In other news, one of the Army top brass has ruled out a coup, but has called for a non-aligned committee to act as an arbitrator between the two sides. It is important to note that this is NOT the same as an election, which have in recent times always returned a Thaksin in some shape or form to power, and are likely to do so again in February. Either way, it has reached the point where election results here just serve to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) the losing side off to the point where they simply cannot accept it and get on with life, so clearly, Thailand is between a rock and a hard place.
Khun General seems to think that if the current colour-coded politics is allowed to fester unresolved, the country could face civil war! Not a nice though at all; imagine Bangkok ending up looking like Beirut, or even Belfast.
I don't think a General would be the type of guy to make alarmist comments, but then again TiT. Regardless of where this is, we as a species generally don't seem to be happy unless we're making each other deeply unhappy, and that is what makes me worry about the Generals remarks, it's entirely humanly possible.
Anyhoo, lets see what tomorrow brings, I have to traverse Asoke to get to the girls, but in a pinch there's always Soi 33, less than ten minutes easy stroll from my crib.
At any rate, I'm enjoying BKK not being too overcrowded with shuffling night-market-zombies this year. Its looking about the same as the average off-season, so there are still a lot of people around, and Nana last night was going like a rocket!
Does it start before, on or after CM Flower Festival weekend (first weekend of February)?February used to be a nice cool month up north but in recent years not so much. The bigger problem is the Flower Festival itself, which turns the city into total gridlock.
Oliver Kitsoff
12-22-13, 07:22
Update: Sunday Rally at Asoke.
About an hour ago I was at Asoke junction, the rally is in the Rachadamri Road (I think it's called) the Podium is about 75 metres from Soi Cowboy and the rally crowd stretches back past Soi Cowboy entrance itself and on up to the junction with Sukhumvit. At the moment traffic in Sukhumvit is unaffected.
Soi Cowboy bars are all shut except the 'regular' pubs at either end 'Ship Inn' etc. But bear in mind it was 11. 30 in the morning when I wandered in.
The only people in Soi Cowboy are cops (sitting at the outdoor bar tables) and protesters, sitting on the raised steel decks of the bars, eating their picnic lunches.
At the rally podium, some dude is screaming into a sound system, but the crowd, apart from the die-hards right at the front of the pack seem unmoved.
People still seem to be arriving at the rally.
Basically, if you don't see anything on CNN / BBC etc. Later today, consider it a non-event. Barring things getting ugly, I think the only thing likely to happen in Soi Cowboy later is debauchery, drunkenness, and cricket-munching. In other words, jizzbizz as usual.
Wolvenvacht
12-22-13, 09:10
There are a lot of them out there these days. Reading reports and seeing some pictures here it would seem it may not be possible to know for sure who is who.
Do most of the members here care so much, as long as the report is useful? I'm not sure if this discussion is welcome or not, so I apologize in advance if this is something not welcome on here.It is the written official policy of this forum to ignore the existence of LBs.
It is the written official policy of this forum to ignore the existence of LBs.My understanding was that it as official policy to ignore any reference to any activities with LBs but discussion on recognising them, and perhaps identifying clubs where they are most active, seems reasonable.
You cannot totally ignore a reality or the board becomes like Uganda where gays will be sent to prison for life!
Wolvenvacht
12-22-13, 14:24
My understanding was that it as official policy to ignore any reference to any activities with LBs but discussion on recognising them, and perhaps identifying clubs where they are most active, seems reasonable.
You cannot totally ignore a reality or the board becomes like Uganda where gays will be sent to prison for life!I can only quote what is in the rules: "Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women."
Gilby and others can discuss this topic here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2657-Identifying-Transvestites
7-11 is in Vietnam now. I was there last January and they are popping up all over HCMC. There is one right down the street from my in-laws house. Burger King is popping up everywhere too. I've eaten at 2 of them and it tastes just like the US version. I know of 3 of them and not sure where the others are. One at the Airport, one in D1 and one in D10 for sure.
Thailand is full of 7 eleven stores, but does Vietnam really have any?
"In fact, the presence of 7 Eleven in Vietnam is foreseeable. Foreign investors, believing that the Thai brand would come to Vietnam sooner or later, have been trying to expand their networks to get stronger."
"Last update 11:39 | 11/12/2013"
http://dongtalk.com/2013/12/11/7-eleven-does-warm-up-before-entering-vietnam/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Eleven
Regarding ATM limits:
"Current amounts that can be withdrawn at any one time is usually very low. 2,000, 000 Dong with a 20, 000 Dong additional usage charge. ANZ ATM's appear to have the max payout so far, around 10. 000. 000 in one hit, followed by HSBC with a max of 4, 800, 000 Dong but with 100. 000d fees. Donga can go up to 5. 000. 000 Dong but it only accepts card from the Visa circuit, no MasterCard. In HCMC Commonwealth Bank (Australia) 8. 000. 000 Dong, no fees. 4 ATMs around Bui Vien St, Agribank allows 3mil at 20, 000."..
AssLover945
12-22-13, 17:11
It seems the mango website is not getting updated like it used to be a few months back.
I walked in to see that talent and was pleasantly surprised to see a few new faces since I went there last 2-3 months back.
Seems NEsle has to do some work!
Wolvenvacht
12-22-13, 21:58
Read in the Bangkok Post:
Passengers scheduled to fly from Suvarnabhumi Airport should leave at least four hours before departure due to heavy traffic in the capital following city-wide demonstrations by the People's Democratic Reform Committee supporters, the Airports of Thailand says.
Apart from leaving early, the AoT also advised air passengers to use the Airport Rail Link.
The passengers can call hotline 1722 for more information around the clock.
Wishing all of you a very happy mongering holiday and a fruitful new year.
Cheers.
Duni
Read in the Bangkok Post:
Passengers scheduled to fly from Suvarnabhumi Airport should leave at least four hours before departure due to heavy traffic in the capital following city-wide demonstrations by the People's Democratic Reform Committee supporters, the Airports of Thailand says.
Apart from leaving early, the AoT also advised air passengers to use the Airport Rail Link.
The passengers can call hotline 1722 for more information around the clock.It took me 75 minutes from airport (so you want a boom boom) to NEP area on Monday morning from 915 to 1030. Driver said this was normal, although it's never been so long before since coming to BKK every year since 07.
Certainly no where near 4 hours, though, although arriving at the airport for a flight 2 hours or so early is typically recommended. Add 2 hours for traffic & there's your 4 hours.
Fast Eddie 48
12-24-13, 23:59
Read in the Bangkok Post:
Passengers scheduled to fly from Suvarnabhumi Airport should leave at least four hours before departure due to heavy traffic in the capital following city-wide demonstrations by the People's Democratic Reform Committee supporters, the Airports of Thailand says.
Apart from leaving early, the AoT also advised air passengers to use the Airport Rail Link.
The passengers can call hotline 1722 for more information around the clock.I take the MRT from Asok to Markasan station and take the Airport express whole trip take only 1 hr 20 min with waiting time, this is the fastest way if you are my yourself and travel light.
Fast Eddie 48
7-11 is in Vietnam now. I was there last January and they are popping up all over HCMC. There is one right down the street from my in-laws house. Burger King is popping up everywhere too. I've eaten at 2 of them and it tastes just like the US version. I know of 3 of them and not sure where the others are. One at the Airport, one in D1 and one in D10 for sure.Only in HCMC and the south. No 7-11 in the north. In face no convenience stores in the north at all.
JesseJames
12-25-13, 05:32
I take the MRT from Asok to Markasan station and take the Airport express whole trip take only 1 hr 20 min with waiting time, this is the fastest way if you are my yourself and travel light.
Fast Eddie 48I can get to the airport by taxi in 40- 60 min, no stairs or crowded trains and you can bring as much luggage as you want.
Only in HCMC and the south. No 7-11 in the north. In face no convenience stores in the north at all.It seems in Hanoi of the north there are the local types:
http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20131107162658-vietnam-takes-to-convenience-stores.aspx
I was wondering what the hobby scene was like in Thailand at the end of the year? Good time to visit or a time to avoid?
I was wondering what the hobby scene was like in Thailand at the end of the year? Good time to visit or a time to avoid?Like now & for the next week or so? Looks good to me. I'm here. As others have said, though, it's like a low season rather than high.
Also there is the looming threat of the protests. The leader says he'll shut BKK down for all of January, if necessary, FWIW. Whether that includes the airport, street walkers & seven elevens remains to be seen.
Wolvenvacht
12-25-13, 10:31
I was wondering what the hobby scene was like in Thailand at the end of the year? Good time to visit or a time to avoid?As always there will be more beautiful Thai ladies available than you can ever hope to satisfy you with.
As always there will be more beautiful Thai ladies available than you can ever hope to satisfy you with.Good to know. Also curious what types of celebrations go on during these two days?
Wolvenvacht
12-25-13, 21:07
Good to know. Also curious what types of celebrations go on during these two days?Two years ago I was in Bangkok on Christmas day: business as usual with all shops open.
New years eve can be slim pickens near Sukhumvit.
May be prudent to have something arranged in advanced
NeverJerkOff
12-26-13, 15:05
Some talent here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cb7HNQ-zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P9ZI55eblU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpA_xzbAQI
Wolvenvacht
12-26-13, 19:27
Some talent here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cb7HNQ-zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P9ZI55eblU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpA_xzbAQI5555+ Nobody has any interest for the cars.
Some talent here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cb7HNQ-zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P9ZI55eblU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpA_xzbAQIWhen you compare these gals to what is available on Suk and in the bars, it is mighty hard to pull a gal. At least for me it is.
ChelseaGrin
12-27-13, 07:04
Hi guys,
I'm planning a BKK trip at the end of Jan. Still not very clear on the political situation there. Could you guys please let me know about travel in the week leading up to the elections? Do you foresee any safety issues?
When you compare these gals to what is available on Suk and in the bars, it is mighty hard to pull a gal. At least for me it is.I'll take lower cellulite & Lower Sukhumvit & NEP area street walkers any day.
I'll have to agree with you. I watched all three VDO's and, yes, there were some hotties but some not so hot. Like one who looked like a poster child for a female Dracula with her teeth. It just falls into the category of what one finds Hot another might not. An endless discussion on here.
I'll take lower cellulite & lower sukhumvit & NEP area street walkers any day.
Wolvenvacht
12-27-13, 20:59
Hi guys,
I'm planning a BKK trip at the end of Jan. Still not very clear on the political situation there. Could you guys please let me know about travel in the week leading up to the elections? Do you foresee any safety issues?It is anybody's guess.
Perhaps the military step in and postpone the elections, then there is likely to be violence from the present majority as they had a good chance to win those elections.
Perhaps the democrats (present opposition) may boycot the elections, even forcefully. Very likely they will disturb the peaceful process of the elections by trying to occupy government offices.
Perhaps in desperation the present government my send in the policy to arrest the democrat leaders or break the occupation of official buildings.
Or perhaps everyone remembers they are Buddhist and that one should not be attached to power or status or money and they sit together and form a government of national unity under the gentle guiding hand of His Majesty (may he live long).
One thing is certain, in the days leading up to the election, alcohol will not be sold nor served.
Member #4698
12-27-13, 21:52
It is anybody's guess.You are right; it's anybody's guess. And For what it is worth here is my 2 bahts worth: Demonstrations continue. Less Tourists visit Thailand. The Baht declines further. The Airport stays open. Democrats boycott elections, tensions rise, and the election is postponed or the election results are nullified. The Army eventually steps in and sets up interim caretaker government. When the elections actually take place a couple of years from now; The Pheu Thai Party wins again but major concessions are won by the Democrats concerning their guaranteed representation in upper house. Thaksin Shinawatra remains in exile for the rest of his life.
I am scheduled to arrive in BKK in mid March. I will be flying in from Phnom Penh. Naturally I will be watching the political drama unfold all the way up to my arrival date. I am planning on spending most of my time in BKK, but if things get out of hand, I can easily travel overland from Cambodia to Pattaya and have a damn good time in Patt for 3. 5 weeks. I have never done that. It might be interesting. I will head south If I get bored. After LOS I am traveling on to Macau and then the PI. The one thing that would bother me is if the BKK airports were closed. But there are escape routes from Pattaya (overland) and further south (by air, sea, and land) so baring an all out civil war, which is a very unlikely event, I plan on having another great time in Thailand real soon.
Hi guys,
I'm planning a BKK trip at the end of Jan. Still not very clear on the political situation there. Could you guys please let me know about travel in the week leading up to the elections? Do you foresee any safety issues?A coup is imminent. Then all will be calm like the Christmas song "silent night".
Evidently even Tax-in knows it's coming as he's taken up new employment as Blackberry CEO:
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/blackberry-faces-another-uncertainty-ceo-launches-rescue-attempt-170947024.html
How soon before a coup in Canada?
Bottom line. Just come & cum again.
Member #3200
12-28-13, 23:48
I will be personally active in the coup in Canada if the wasted sperm of the commie dead fuck PM Trudeau comes into power.
I would like to hear from anyone who has left the US with equivalent of $10, 000 or more and declared it. What hoops if any does one have to go through after you declare it, so if you actually have experience, I would appreciate hearing from you. PM me if you prefer. I know there are other ways to move money, so not interested in that.
I have had several experiences with Customs and one time during the boarding process they recognized me due to frequent travel to one country and they searched my carry on bag and made me count all my money even though I told them I had less than $10, 000. I had some US and foreign currency and could only guess as to the exchange rate. They had stopped me on the previous flight, but just questioned me.
Fast Eddie 48
12-30-13, 00:35
I would like to hear from anyone who has left the US with equivalent of $10, 000 or more and declared it. What hoops if any does one have to go through after you declare it, so if you actually have experience, I would appreciate hearing from you. PM me if you prefer. I know there are other ways to move money, so not interested in that.
I have had several experiences with Customs and one time during the boarding process they recognized me due to frequent travel to one country and they searched my carry on bag and made me count all my money even though I told them I had less than $10, 000. I had some US and foreign currency and could only guess as to the exchange rate. They had stopped me on the previous flight, but just questioned me.To Hobby.
I not sure if Amex express check count I have 20 check 500 each once and about 3000 USD cash a few yr back, now days with credit card and wire transfer not many tourist carry much cash.
Fast Eddie 48
To Hobby.
I not sure if Amex express check count I have 20 check 500 each once and about 3000 USD cash a few yr back, now days with credit card and wire transfer not many tourist carry much cash.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks, but did you declare the money? If so, what did they require? Just count it or did you have to fill in or sign some documents? I have a credit card (more fees) and have used it, but I prefer TCs. I don't want a foreign bank account and money transfers at this time.
Everything counts. Download and fill out FINCEN 105 and get it stamped by customs. On a night or early morning fligt you may need to meet them at the arrival screening area. Go to information for help locating an agent.
Mudcat
I would like to hear from anyone who has left the US with equivalent of $10, 000 or more and declared it. What hoops if any does one have to go through after you declare it, so if you actually have experience, I would appreciate hearing from you. PM me if you prefer. I know there are other ways to move money, so not interested in that.
I have had several experiences with Customs and one time during the boarding process they recognized me due to frequent travel to one country and they searched my carry on bag and made me count all my money even though I told them I had less than $10,000. I had some US and foreign currency and could only guess as to the exchange rate. They had stopped me on the previous flight, but just questioned me.
I would like to hear from anyone who has left the US with equivalent of $10, 000 or more and declared it. What hoops if any does one have to go through after you declare it, so if you actually have experience, I would appreciate hearing from you. PM me if you prefer. I know there are other ways to move money, so not interested in that.
I have had several experiences with Customs and one time during the boarding process they recognized me due to frequent travel to one country and they searched my carry on bag and made me count all my money even though I told them I had less than $10, 000. I had some US and foreign currency and could only guess as to the exchange rate. They had stopped me on the previous flight, but just questioned me.This is to protect against money laundering / terrorism financing. I'm guessing it's just filling out a form and giving them a copy of your ID.
I would seriously advise against not declaring.
This is to protect against money laundering / terrorism financing. I'm guessing it's just filling out a form and giving them a copy of your I'd.
I would seriously advise against not declaring.I was quite certain of why they do it. However I just wanted to know if anyone had any experiences. My concern is that I would end up on a list and then get hassled every time I travel.
Not declaring would never enter my mind.
i would like to hear from anyone who has left the us with equivalent of $10, 000 or more and declared it. what hoops if any does one have to go through after you declare it, so if you actually have experience, i would appreciate hearing from you. pm me if you prefer. i know there are other ways to move money, so not interested in that.
i have had several experiences with customs and one time during the boarding process they recognized me due to frequent travel to one country and they searched my carry on bag and made me count all my money even though i told them i had less than $10, 000. i had some us and foreign currency and could only guess as to the exchange rate. they had stopped me on the previous flight, but just questioned me.someone i know traveled to asia from usa with $30,000 cash and did not declare it. her mom needed an operation so she needed to bring a lot of cash. usa government found it and confirep001ed the money. yes all $30,000 no refunds. don't sneak money if you are caught they will take it!
I can easily travel overland from Cambodia to PattayaCould you fill me in on the easy overland route you found? When I looked all I could find was a very lengthy trip via two cramped mini-vans (one to the Thai border, then another after crossing) for almost as much as a direct flight from PNH. BKK costs.
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together. The best girl I had here so far (and by far) was Zambian!
Disappointed so far in the Land of Smiles after Bangkok, Pattaya and Kanchanaburi.
Ripple
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. I.
RippleThat the Thais are equally amazed at the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor standard of most English speakers' Thai. Never criticise others for things where you are at fault.
That the Thais are equally amazed at the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor standard of most English speakers' Thai. Never criticise others for things where you are at fault.Amen. One should not expect people in a foreign nation to speak "your" language.
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are.What if the situation were reversed? What if a native Thai speaker came up to you in your home town and asked for directions in Thai? How well could you communicate in their language? Sheesh
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the (17) girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together. The best girl I had here so far (and by far) was Zambian!
Disappointed so far in the Land of Smiles after Bangkok, Pattaya and Kanchanaburi.
RippleThat must be soooooo annoying for you.
You and me, Brits, renowned for our linguistic skills and knowledge of foreign cultures. I have schoolboy French, about a dozen words in Thai, and 4 in Japanese. The girls here can often speak Thai and Lao fluently, most with passable English, and many with a smattering of French, German, Japanese and for some reason Norwegian. Oh, and without formal education beyond about 15.
That the Thais are equally amazed at the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor standard of most English speakers' Thai. Never criticise others for things where you are at fault.WOW, nice friendly thread here! Happy new year!
The guy said he was disappointed and was leaving. Sounds like his right to do both if he likes. In fact, I think that we all have the expectation that English will be spoken to some degree. If not then very few would travel anywhere because who wants to learn a whole new language just to go anywhere?
What I find more interesting is why he expected, in a third world country, that English would be fluent by virtually the lowest rung on the ladder.
And, that the level of hassle free sex and modern amenities in BKK at Patts didn't offset the poor English skills he experienced.
I haven't been to the Phils as I don't generally find Pinays that attractive but if hookers with English skills is his cup of tea then why does that offend you and why do you take it so personally? He simply made an observation.
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are.
RippleLet me say, and this is not personal on anyone, it is generic, but it is a fact, I am surprised to the level of bad spelling and grammar in English mother tongue people. What kind of language am I referring too? English, what else?
Go imagine why a foreigner should be colloquial in English? Philippines are for other reasons, not because of wise education programs.
Wolvenvacht
01-09-14, 19:48
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the (17) girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together. The best girl I had here so far (and by far) was Zambian!
Disappointed so far in the Land of Smiles after Bangkok, Pattaya and Kanchanaburi.
RippleI'm sure you told your folks at home you came to Thailand to discuss the finer points of English literature. And see what happens: all these girl want to do is fuck you. What a bummer! Go get your money back from the travel agency that sold you the "Discuss English Literature in Thailand" tour.
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the...Quite strange, I had some Thai friends visit USA and they were surprised as to how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor we spoke Thai!
You should bypass Philippines. It sounds like you won't have a good time there either. Their English is not that great and with your expectations will only cause attitude problems with the girls and locals.
Possibly your best bet would be in English speaking countries!
i am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the (17) girls that i have bedded here that i am thinking of going to the philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together.by all means go to the pi. when the lights go out in the bar, you'll be able to communicate. when the trike driver scams you, you'll be able to understand him. when you have no internet connection, it will be easy to whine & be understood. when the p4p gal has her le friend cart you away for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), you will know what they are saying.
Mr Enternational
01-10-14, 01:20
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. Sounds like you failed to plan, hence you planned to fail. Next time do your research before you go somewhere. Then you won't have to sit around looking stupid waiting for people to explain things to you. You will already know. At the university it was expected that we would have already read over and studied the material before we came to class to get the actual hands-on lesson.
Sounds like you failed to plan, hence you planned to fail. Next time do your research before you go somewhere. Then you won't have to sit around looking stupid waiting for people to explain things to you. You will already know. At the university it was expected that we would have already read over and studied the material before we came to class to get the actual hands-on lesson.Quote Originally Posted by Ripple67 [View Original Post]
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering.
He's stupid, he'll probably pay too much and cause our prices to go up. Do you really want guys like him here?
I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together. The best girl I had here so far (and by far) was Zambian!
Disappointed so far in the Land of Smiles after Bangkok, Pattaya and Kanchanaburi.
RippleWhile you have been roundly criticized for this comment, you do bring up a valid point. The level of spoken English in Thailand is abysmal compared to other SEA countries. University-level English speakers are not near the level of their counterparts in Burma or even Vietnam, far more so for those with limited education such as you will find in the bars. One should never expect everybody to speak "your" language when traveling abroad, but it is fair to expect that somebody employed in the tourism business would have a decent grasp of English, if that's their target audience.
If you are really interested in learning about local customs, find a reasonably attractive bar girl and take her for a week or two. Travel around and let her be your cultural guide and translator. You'll look like a putz (to regular Thai people) running around with a bar girl, but no worse than most other farang who do the same thing. Sure, you won't get to boink a different girl every night, but you will learn more about Thai culture. It will be "bannok" culture, but it's a start.
If you're not really interested in learning the culture and customs, best to stick to the USA, the UK, Canada and Germany.
While you have been roundly criticized for this comment, you do bring up a valid point. but it is fair to expect that somebody employed in the tourism business would have a decent grasp of English.Might be true, but the comment was mainly addressed to the subject of this forum and the uncapacity from the providers to have colloquial english skills.
Whether the sex providers are part of the tourism business is your judgement. They are not, IMHO, even if we go to Thailand with that target.
I have never found difficulties in communicating in english in Thailand with lot of people, educated and / or in the REAL tourism business or related to tourism.
Have found difficulties with many sex providers, but as someone said before, we are not meeting them for the talks, although, I admit, it is better to meet someone you can talk to.
Even sex has an advantage.
But if you have good english skills and good education, would you sell your pussy for a few tens of bucks every nightand day at NEP or Soi Cowboy or in a MP on in the streets?
Whether the sex providers are part of the tourism business is your judgement. They are not, IMHO, even if we go to Thailand with that target.
But if you have good english skills and good education, would you sell your pussy for a few tens of bucks every nightand day at NEP or Soi Cowboy or in a MP on in the streets?Agreed. They really are not, and my comment was just general observations on the state of English in Thailand. However, bar girls with enough experience tend to become fairly fluent in English or Japanese.
Funny, even as we speak I'm helping my GF (degree, many years speaking English for work, many $$ spent on private English schools) string together a coherent sales pitch in English.
Beer Monger
01-10-14, 15:29
If you're not really interested in learning the culture and customs, best to stick to the USA, the UK, Canada and Germany.I travel a bit around the world and one thing I've found is that there will always be that fair portion of people that want the comforts of home in an exotic place rather than jumping into the culture. Nothing wrong with that for those people, but complaining about it is useless. I find if you try to keep your preconceptions to a minimum and do a slight bit of research before you go somewhere new, you will have less surprises and a more pleasant experience. My only puzzlement on the original post is why did he expect them to have good English skills? I myself am more interested in their French and Greek skills!
Reminds me of when I was in Greece on the island of Rhodes a few years ago. Excellent Tavernas selling fresh local Mediterranean food, but the only place with a line was a food stand selling Fish and Chips to British tourists.
Wolvenvacht
01-10-14, 21:34
Read on the Suvarnabhumi Airport web site:
Mrs. Rawewan Netrakavesna, the General Manager of Suvarnabhumi Airport, said Since the 5th January 2013, the political protest is ongoing in many areas of Bangkok, which may cause additional traffic and may affect travels to and from the airport. Therefore, we would like to recommend that passengers prepare travel time to Suvarnabhumi Airport at least 4 hours before flight departure time and to avoid routes nearby and around the protests. Also, we would highly recommend the usage of Airport Rail Link, together with the Bangkok Mass Transit System (BTS) SkyTrain, the Metropolitan Rapid Transit (MRT) or the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) which can also connect to other modes of public transportation.
Mrs. Rawewan added to maintain consistent passenger services during the political protest, Suvarnabhumi Airport has coordinated with the airports public transportation providers to have a contingency plan in case of passengers being unable to travel to and from the airport; such as change of routes for Shuttle Bus between Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang International Airports, provide airport personnel and information boards to advise passengers using public taxi and airport limousine to avoid areas near the political protest, etc. Furthermore, we are following the orders of the Ministry of Transport for all agencies under the jurisdiction of the Ministry to have a contingency plan for public travels during the political protest with road closures in many areas of Bangkok; in which case, Suvarnabhumi Airport has prepared its Long Term Parking area as a public car park and has prepared Shuttle Bus services for those wishing to travel in and out of Bangkok, to and from nearby public transportation stations, such as the Airport Rail Link, BTS SkyTrain and SRT.
Mrs. Rawewan concluded Suvarnabhumi Airport is prepared to facilitate passengers in other areas as well, such as the set up of the Airport Operation Center (AOPC) to coordinate with all organizations and agencies within the airport, for example, public bureaus, state agencies and airlines. The Center will be opened 24 hours daily, with various airport personnel available at all times to assist and facilitate passenger affected by the current political situation as promptly as possible. The Center is situated behind check-in counter row R, Departure Hall. 4th floor of the Passenger Terminal, telephone number 0-2132-9950 or 2, facsimile number 0-2132-9951. Furthermore, Suvarnabhumi Airport has allocated waiting areas for passengers missing their flights due to the travel uncertainties from Bangkok.
Additionally, from the 10th January 2013, Suvarnabhumi Airport will deploy a group of facilitation personnel, from various organizations such as the Association of Thai Travel Agent (ATTA) , Thai Hotels Association, the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) , etc. To assist passengers near the AOT Information Counter, Arrival Hall. 2nd floor of the Passenger Terminal.
For further information, please contact AOT Information Counters at Suvarnabhumi Airport or Call Center 1722 (24-hours).
Monday 13th Jan has been described as the Bangkok big shutdown with 7 major intersections to be closed by protesters includes Asoke-Sukhumvit intersection near to Terminal 21. This is the day you want to allow extra time to get to the airport. Most other days don't seem to be a big problem so far.
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2014/01/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-bangkok-shutdown/
Staying very close to Asoke Sukhumvit intersection like Soi 19, 21, or 23 may not be the best idea if need to leave on 13 Jan. Recommend to use motorcycle for short distance transport.
Me being at Soi 20, fortunately there are other routes to / from there on Sukhumvit to the east or on Soi 22 from Rama IV.
Fast Eddie 48
01-13-14, 00:26
During the protest if you are going or arriving from the airport just take the airport ling train to Phayathai station and change to skytrain, I been taking the train on my last 10 trip to Bangkok is fast if you travel light is a best way to go.
Fast Eddie 48
http://bangkokairporttrain.com/
Harry Dude
01-13-14, 20:35
That must be soooooo annoying for you.
The girls here can often speak Thai and Lao fluently, most with passable English, and many with a smattering of French, German, Japanese and for some reason Norwegian.Norwegian? That must be due to Skogis.
TodayTomorrow
01-13-14, 23:02
Hi,
I'm planning a trip to Pattaya and BKK til March. And though the question has been briefly adressed in various threads, I really would like a heads-up (from eyes on the ground) on whether is is safe to stay in Bangkok / Pattaya with the current demos going on?
Anyone?
Best regards.
Wolvenvacht
01-14-14, 07:53
Some handy telephone numbers for tourists.
Hi,
I'm planning a trip to Pattaya and BKK til March. And though the question has been briefly adressed in various threads, I really would like a heads-up (from eyes on the ground) on whether is is safe to stay in Bangkok / Pattaya with the current demos going on?
Anyone?
Best regards.It is 6 to 8 weeks ahead. Follow newscast and ISG, I am reading regular reports here.
In thee situations anything can change in a matter of hours or days.
Don't forget this is a sex forum.
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 08:57
It is 6 to 8 weeks ahead. Follow newscast and ISG, I am reading regular reports here.
In thee situations anything can change in a matter of hours or days.
Don't forget this is a sex forum.Disagree strongly. This is a mongering forum and anything that affects the ability to monger, to get safely to the mongering hotspots, or the cost of mongering, is fair game.
I was feeling pretty cocky and confident about flying in on Thursday until I read Stickman's report. Either the Bangkok Post is kind of fluffy on the coverage or Stickman is going all CNN on us, but he does seem to be pretty thorough as to exactly what is happening at each point, including on the BTS. Anyone with feet on the ground care to comment?
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013-8.htm
Disagree strongly. This is a mongering forum and anything that affects the ability to monger, to get safely to the mongering hotspots, or the cost of mongering, is fair game.
I was feeling pretty cocky and confident about flying in on Thursday until I read Stickman's report. Either the Bangkok Post is kind of fluffy on the coverage or Stickman is going all CNN on us, but he does seem to be pretty thorough as to exactly what is happening at each point, including on the BTS. Anyone with feet on the ground care to comment?
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013-8.htmI am hanging around Soi 20 and 22 and using Phrom Phong area. I am not having any big problems. Taxis are available. Motorcycles are the go. Traffic in Sukhumvit is low. No traffic jam around here.
As I stated before, I would not stay in Soi 19 right now. Asoke is all blocked (according to Stickman) and if take a taxi to Sukhumvit you can't go anywhere. Otherwise I would love to stay in Asoke Residence in Soi 19. Soi 23 also may not be the best choice.
Soi 22 is packed full of MPs and so is 24/1, 31, 33. I will no doubt try Soi Cowboy some time and Nana. I don't see any massive problems for having a good time just yet. However will be careful to decide just what places are sensible to go right now. I used to take a motorcycle on Asoke up to the Ratachada Soapies. Just need to change that method a little. Could take back Sois up to Petchburi road by motorcycle.
Heaps of places to eat in this area and also good supermarket shopping in Villa Markt (soi 33/1). Perhaps I am fine as know Bangkok very well. However I don't see big reason to stay away. Just choose your accommodation carefully if you know Sukhumvit at all.
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 13:38
i am hanging around soi 20 and 22 and using phrom phong area. i am not having any big problems. taxis are available. motorcycles are the go. traffic in sukhumvit is low. no traffic jam around here.
as i stated before, i would not stay in soi 19 right now. asoke is all blocked (according to stickman) and if take a taxi to sukhumvit you can't go anywhere. otherwise i would love to stay in asoke residence in soi 19. soi 23 also may not be the best choice.
soi 22 is packed full of mps and so is 24/1, 31, 33. i will no doubt try soi cowboy some time and nana. i don't see any massive problems for having a good time just yet. however will be careful to decide just what places are sensible to go right now. i used to take a motorcycle on asoke up to the ratachada soapies. just need to change that method a little. could take back sois up to petchburi road by motorcycle.
heaps of places to eat in this area and also good supermarket shopping in villa markt (soi 33/1). perhaps i am fine as know bangkok very well. however i don't see big reason to stay away. just choose your accommodation carefully if you know sukhumvit at all.thanks man,
unless there's an airport shutdown then it's a go! i'll be on soi 8 so if all else fails i have bamboo and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 13:47
Disagree strongly. This is a mongering forum and anything that affects the ability to monger, to get safely to the mongering hotspots, or the cost of mongering, is fair game.
I was feeling pretty cocky and confident about flying in on Thursday until I read Stickman's report. Either the Bangkok Post is kind of fluffy on the coverage or Stickman is going all CNN on us, but he does seem to be pretty thorough as to exactly what is happening at each point, including on the BTS. Anyone with feet on the ground care to comment?
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013-8.htmPosts on the politics may be getting a bit out of bounds, but posts on the impact of the protests is very useful information for readers of the Bangkok threads.
I've been reading Stickman's protest reports too. Here's the link to the index page.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013.htm
Seems to be pretty objective and the photography is a plus.
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 14:27
Posts on the politics may be getting a bit out of bounds, but posts on the impact of the protests is very useful information for readers of the Bangkok threads.
I've been reading Stickman's protest reports too. Here's the link to the index page.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013.htm
Seems to be pretty objective and the photography is a plus.The counter to that seems to be Richard Barrow. Hard to tell. I guess it's all point of view. Well I'm flying in Thursday and out Monday. Wish me luck
Member #4698
01-14-14, 14:45
Thai Protesters Turn Focus to Stock Exchange.
Antigovernment Activists Seek to Escalate Efforts After Clogging Central Bangkok.
Was today's Wall Street Journal headline. I hope this means the protests will move on from Asok & Sukhumvit. The reports from you guys on the ground are really timely and informative. Thanks. I am still 2 months away from arrival. As of yet I don't see any reason to change my plans. Not going to pack any yellow or red T's.
I may move right away from these areas to On Nut shortly to suit GF. I have noticed there is an increasing number of cars parked in the right lane in Sukhumvit Road. This means the right lane cannot be used from Soi 20 up to Asoke. Soi 18 is probably still accessible but may not be that way in time.
The counter to that seems to be Richard Barrow. Hard to tell. I guess it's all point of view. Well I'm flying in Thursday and out Monday. Wish me luckI will also be flying in Friday and out Monday. Where are you putting up? Hotel?
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 20:56
I will also be flying in Friday and out Monday. Where are you putting up? Hotel?I'll be at Adelphi Suites on Soi 8. My work colleague wants me to change to the Holiday Inn Silom as his office is right there, but that will take me out of the mongering areas.
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 21:43
I'll be at Adelphi Suites on Soi 8. My work colleague wants me to change to the Holiday Inn Silom as his office is right there, but that will take me out of the mongering areas.After reading the latest, I am probably going to cancel. $800 of the company's money versus more risk and hassle than reward. I'll decide after I talk to my colleague in the morning.
On the good side, I will have a weekend in Singapore, and maybe check out Indonesia.
PK, Enoy your banter. I have some hippy erats that are-ty-dyed. Manycolors, red yellow, green, blue etc. I bet that would totally confuse those in the protested area.
Phopd? Your writng on the BKK report section says no govt. Spending will creat private jobs with out destroying others jobs. Really? Maybe we should ask the people in the towns where military bases or industrial production plants once existed. Howabout the space coast that existed in Florida. Didn't govt spending spending creat the 7-11 and other places of business that now are gone because the space industry shut down? Pleas let us know where the jobs are that were destroyed.
Unemployent does not create jobs. ? Really, again. Maybe not in the sence that new business will pop up all over the place. Still if the unemployed don't get money to help out watch the total employment go down in the area. No money to spend means you don't buy much. Thus less people needed to service those still around. Its the correct balance you need to make it work correctly.
Just my opinion, no need to go farther with this.
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 23:58
Mackin,
Yea, I think protest related stuff is appropriate for the forum, but this is the right thread for it.
I don't know if it was on ISG or somewhere else I read a report that some poor farang was wearing a red or yellow t-shirt and got beat up for doing so. Crazy, but there's no shortage of craziness in the world.
Think of your ecumenical multi-colored shirts as an expression of inclusion.
I read in Stickman's post today about the protests that pretty ladies trying to pass through the Asoke protest area are getting hassled.
I've got a feeling over the next couple of days Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy will pick up. The ladies need to eat too. I wonder, are the clubs that can be gotten too relatively easily packed with out of work gogo girls?
If I had the time and a ticket to Bangkok leaving tomorrow I'd go, no hesitation. Things could turn a bit ugly, but I think it's a small risk. If they did, it's a short trip to Pattaya.
Disagree strongly. This is a mongering forum and anything that affects the ability to monger, to get safely to the mongering hotspots, or the cost of mongering, is fair game.
I was feeling pretty cocky and confident about flying in on Thursday until I read Stickman's report. Either the Bangkok Post is kind of fluffy on the coverage or Stickman is going all CNN on us, but he does seem to be pretty thorough as to exactly what is happening at each point, including on the BTS. Anyone with feet on the ground care to comment?
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Bangkok-Protests-2013/Bangkok-Protests-2013-8.htmProbably my message didn't go through. Expecting a prediction on what is going to happen in 6-8 weeks (due to political protest) is IMHO unappropriate. As much as there is people living on the ground, unless hidden, there is no real political analyst on insider to forecast the future in such a way and in such a projection.
Being a sex (or mongering) forum, a daily view or reports, an information on known facts of the next few days makes sense.
But it is nonsense to base a trip 8 weeks ahead based on "forecast" for from here. Some could be emotions, some could be anti- protesters, some might be in favour, some transmits their political ideas in telling the future, maybe his wish.
Sorry. But I can't believe whatever someone here can tell me about "my trip" 6-8 weeks ahead.
Beer Monger
01-15-14, 00:37
Probably my message didn't go through. Expecting a prediction on what is going to happen in 6-8 weeks (due to political protest) is IMHO unappropriate. As much as there is people living on the ground, unless hidden, there is no real political analyst on insider to forecast the future in such a way and in such a projection.
Being a sex (or mongering) forum, a daily view or reports, an information on known facts of the next few days makes sense.
But it is nonsense to base a trip 8 weeks ahead based on "forecast" for from here. Some could be emotions, some could be anti- protesters, some might be in favour, some transmits their political ideas in telling the future, maybe his wish.
Sorry. But I can't believe whatever someone here can tell me about "my trip" 6-8 weeks ahead.Ok, the I strongly agree! Current situation information. Yes. Fortune telling. No.
I've actually decided that since I am not a mystic or a guru, I am going to stay in Singapore and enjoy Geylang. Damn, I was really looking forward to this trip, but the stability right now and the fact that things could take a turn for the worse at any moment make it not worth it IMHO. Live to bonk another day and all that.
Member #4698
01-15-14, 01:18
I've actually decided that since I am not a mystic or a guru, I am going to stay in Singapore and enjoy Geylang. Damn, I was really looking forward to this trip, but the stability right now and the fact that things could take a turn for the worse at any moment make it not worth it IMHO. Live to bonk another day and all that.Sure Beer, it is always best to stay in your comfort zone. I was all scheduled to visit Jakarta for the first time in October 2012 and changed plans at the last moment due to Benghazi and some discomfort I was feeling about the BS small scale Muslim protests in Jakarta. It turned out I need not have skipped Jakarta, but on the other hand, I had a great time in Subic instead. I will be heading to Jakarta at long last to finally give it a try and I am looking forward to it now more than ever. The moral to my story is even though I think BKK is still real do able right now and I personally would not cancel my trip, my opinion should have no affect on your decision. There will always be another time to visit BKK. Missing it now will make you enjoy it even more when you finally come. No pun intended. Have fun in Geylang. It is not BKK, but I like it a lot. And the food in Singapore is really good too.
Beer Monger
01-15-14, 01:39
Sure Beer, it is always best to stay in your comfort zone. I was all scheduled to visit Jakarta for the first time in October 2012 and changed plans at the last moment due to Benghazi and some discomfort I was feeling about the BS small scale Muslim protests in Jakarta. It turned out I need not have skipped Jakarta, but on the other hand, I had a great time in Subic instead. I will be heading to Jakarta at long last to finally give it a try and I am looking forward to it now more than ever. The moral to my story is even though I think BKK is still real do able right now and I personally would not cancel my trip, my opinion should have no affect on your decision. There will always be another time to visit BKK. Missing it now will make you enjoy it even more when you finally come. No pun intended. Have fun in Geylang. It is not BKK, but I like it a lot. And the food in Singapore is really good too.I may actually take advantage of the chance to finally go to Batam or JB also. I wrestled with this decision a lot, and you are probably correct that it is nothing. I've been in Kuwait, Argentina, Colombia, and Mexico during times of unrest and survived. My main deciding factor was the news that Cowboy and Nana are dead! That was the tipping point. And yes, the food is good here.
Member #4698
01-15-14, 02:00
I may actually take advantage of the chance to finally go to Batam or JB also. I wrestled with this decision a lot, and you are probably correct that it is nothing. My main deciding factor was the news that Cowboy and Nana are dead! That was the tipping point.There is always Pattaya as an alternative backup plan if you still decide to visit LOS. No Protests whatsoever. Walking Street is 10x larger than Cowboy. LK metro is the up and coming Go Go neighborhood. Soi 6, Soi Honey, beer complexes galore, the coconut bar, and the dark side, ect, ect. Something to think about. But then Batam is fun. There is no wrong move. Have a great time.
I heard that there is a mob at Thonglor BTS Soi 55 (Nth side) or Soi 38 (sth) , so my taxi going from Soi 20 to On-Nut took a detour down Soi 26 to Rama IV, and back to Sukhumvit once past Thonglor. Sukhumvit has low traffic.
I imagine that people staying in Sukhumvit Sois 2 to 11 should be okay getting access by taxi to and from the expressway. I haven't looked there though. I think closer to Soi 19 would be less desirable.
MadAssManiac
01-15-14, 10:20
Hey guys,
After reading stuff here some queries, please do help.
1. Is the airport to and fro traffic taking much longer than usual? If yes if one has flight at 11 am what time to leave from sukhumvit, staying in grand president.
Best way to travel at that time? Taxi or mrt or what?
2. Are the shopping centres open? Like platinum or mbk?
3. Are the naughty areas still up?
4. Nightlife still on? Climax etc?
Read many reports didn't get answers for these, kindly help if you may any resident of Bangkok
AussieDoug
01-15-14, 11:59
Hey guys,
After reading stuff here some queries, please do help.
1. Is the airport to and fro traffic taking much longer than usual? If yes if one has flight at 11 am what time to leave from sukhumvit, staying in grand president.
Best way to travel at that time? Taxi or mrt or what?
2. Are the shopping centres open? Like platinum or mbk?
3. Are the naughty areas still up?
4. Nightlife still on? Climax etc?
Read many reports didn't get answers for these, kindly help if you may any resident of BangkokEverything is still open unless the mob is standing out front, use the BTS and MRT to get around and you will be OK. Take the MRT from the airport to Phaya Thai station, then on BTS to Nana and walk down Soi 11 to GP.
MadAssManiac
01-15-14, 12:04
Thanks very much bro, appreciate your response.
BTW. 21st evening can meet around GP. If any one is interested. Will be there arund 730 pm on the road side van with the big muscular man
Madass.
Everything is still open unless the mob is standing out front, use the BTS and MRT to get around and you will be OK. Take the MRT from the airport to Phaya Thai station, then on BTS to Nana and walk down Soi 11 to GP.
ChelseaGrin
01-15-14, 16:22
I had booked flight and hotel for a trip Jan end, but now thinking of dropping it. There were reports of shooting and bombs last night, though no one was killed, can't really predict when it might get out of hand. Was thinking of heading to Patts but now unsure of that too. Had waited so long for this trip.
Guys,
If my Feb-March trip doesn't workout due to current unrest in LOS, which place in Asia would be your suggestion for a backup?
Angelas City? Jakarta? Any other?
NeverJerkOff
01-15-14, 20:50
In the past I have always got a metered taxi first shot to the airport but yesterday morning was more difficult. The first two would not take me, second quoted me an unacceptable 500 baht and went with the fourth who quoted me 300 baht. Went by a couple of points with heavy police presence on the way to DMK.
Two days ago my girlfriend was coming to see me on BTS when some foreigner showed her his fully erect penis. If you are a pervert, at least have some class. Wish they had death penalty for this behavior instead of a $5 fine.
Guys,
If my Feb-March trip doesn't workout due to current unrest in LOS, which place in Asia would be your suggestion for a backup?
Angelas city? Jakarta? Any other?Maybe Phuket, with its own airport can be a B plan. Ought be that the BKK big city is hit by extended protests.
Pattaya is out of question as too much depending on BKK airport.
As an alternative country I would vote for Philippines, the next to Thailand for mongering, even if I have never bene there, st similar price levels.
Guys,
If my Feb-March trip doesn't workout due to current unrest in LOS, which place in Asia would be your suggestion for a backup?
Angelas city? Jakarta? Any other?I was in Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur & Penang) & Indonesia (Jakarta & Bali) in the recent past. Really enjoyed all of it. Good for mongering, maybe not as good as Thailand but still good and nice places aswell.
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 03:42
Here's a link to an article in the 16 January Bangkok Post that I found interesting, and not in a good way.
A group of armed red-shirt militants, experienced with weapons use, who claim to be beyond the command and control of anyone, has stashed arms and ammunition in and around Bangkok. They are waiting to see what happens with the 2 February election. They also say they are prepared to challenge the military or any agency that intervenes in the dispute.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/389759/radical-reds-tocking-arms-for-city-fight
I read a great deal of scare-mongering on this forum.
I was here during the last coup and during the last red shirt 'insurrection', and I have the T-shirt to prove it. On neither occasion was it a big deal, unless you went out of your way to find trouble. If the airport gets closed (which both sides promise not to do) then it could be inconvenient.
Thailand is a big country. Just come out here, enjoy yourselves, and stop worrying.
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 07:08
I read a great deal of scare-mongering on this forum.
I was here during the last coup and during the last red shirt 'insurrection', and I have the T-shirt to prove it. On neither occasion was it a big deal, unless you went out of your way to find trouble. If the airport gets closed (which both sides promise not to do) then it could be inconvenient.
Thailand is a big country. Just come out here, enjoy yourselves, and stop worrying.Mouse1, I wrote in a recent post that if I had time and a ticket to fly out in the morning, I'd be on my way back.
I reported on the Bangkok Post article in the interest of full disclosure. Though I think it's unlikely, in a worst case scenario things could get very ugly and very dangerous. In which case as you point out, it's a big country.
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 08:38
I've been going to the Landmark Hotel website and using it's webcam to see what the traffic looks like on Sukhumvit. On Monday there was very little traffic. On Tuesday they re-positioned the cam so you couldn't see the street. Now they have it positioned so you can see traffic coming from the east. Compared to Monday there is quite a bit of traffic. Maybe not as much as normal, but taxis, cars and pickups, as well as motorbikes are getting through.
I was in Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur & Penang) & Indonesia (Jakarta & Bali) in the recent past. Really enjoyed all of it. Good for mongering, maybe not as good as Thailand but still good and nice places aswell.
Maybe Phuket, with its own airport can be a B plan. Ought be that the BKK big city is hit by extended protests.
Pattaya is out of question as too much depending on BKK airport.
As an alternative country I would vote for Philippines, the next to Thailand for mongering, even if I have never bene there, st similar price levels.Thanks guys. BionicMan's suggestion is brilliant, hopefully Phuket will avoid trouble alltogether. If worse comes to worse, I might have to switch to phillipines or Indonesia.
Speaking of scare mongering, it does seem like it is not business as usual esp at soicowboy. If things worsen or don't improve quickly, mongering in LOS may be a ridiculous misadventure for some time.
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 17:29
Just checked out the traffic on Sukhumvit on the Landmark's webcam. At 23:15 there was just a trickle of cars. I'm reading more reports that the numbers of people at the Asoke demonstration site grows at night. These reports say the sites are peaceful. Apparently the protesters spill over into Soi Cowboy. NEP is far removed from the protest site so it is less affected.
Just checked out the traffic on Sukhumvit on the Landmark's webcam. At 23:15 there was just a trickle of cars. I'm reading more reports that the numbers of people at the Asoke demonstration site grows at night. These reports say the sites are peaceful. Apparently the protesters spill over into Soi Cowboy. NEP is far removed from the protest site so it is less affected.I just spoke to the superstar girl Noi from Doll House and she said Soi Cowboy is a bit quiet but not really interfered with by the mob. She just suggested to enter from Soi 23. I probably might not use the Asoke Place short time Hotel. Doll House has special rooms upstairs for a ST fuck. Just a few bars have that. ST Hotel Penny Black is actually in Soi Cowboy, not that far from Asoke but may be still usable. Bars at Soi 23 end might well be favoured at the moment such as Crazy House, Baccara, Shark, although these last two suit tastes of guys who like the artificial fake girls (not many girls for me there). Interestingly Crazy House doesn't have lots of fake stuff but still attracts plenty of Japanese because the girls are just naturally superior looking, on average.
Franciscass
01-17-14, 12:10
I just spoke to the superstar girl Noi from Doll House and she said Soi Cowboy is a bit quiet but not really interfered with by the mob. She just suggested to enter from Soi 23. I probably might not use the Asoke Place short time Hotel. Doll House has special rooms upstairs for a ST fuck. Just a few bars have that. ST Hotel Penny Black is actually in Soi Cowboy, not that far from Asoke but may be still usable. Bars at Soi 23 end might well be favoured at the moment such as Crazy House, Baccara, Shark, although these last two suit tastes of guys who like the artificial fake girls (not many girls for me there). Interestingly Crazy House doesn't have lots of fake stuff but still attracts plenty of Japanese because the girls are just naturally superior looking, on average.Just came through the Asoke / Sukhumvit junction and seen a noticeable increase in numbers and edginess of the men in black with their obligatory shades. They have shut down the skywalk across the intersection, the first indication showing they can take over the BTS network whenever they want to. My take. The so called Bangkok shutdown is not working hence the need to racket up the stakes. How they felt that upsetting the residents of Bangkok and affecting their financial wellbeing was going to further their agenda puzzles me. Bangkok along with the south is their base so why shut it down. Meanwhile tourists are flocking to Chiangmai where business is booming.
Franciscass
01-17-14, 12:24
I just spoke to the superstar girl Noi from Doll House and she said Soi Cowboy is a bit quiet but not really interfered with by the mob. She just suggested to enter from Soi 23. I probably might not use the Asoke Place short time Hotel. Doll House has special rooms upstairs for a ST fuck. Just a few bars have that. ST Hotel Penny Black is actually in Soi Cowboy, not that far from Asoke but may be still usable. Bars at Soi 23 end might well be favoured at the moment such as Crazy House, Baccara, Shark, although these last two suit tastes of guys who like the artificial fake girls (not many girls for me there). Interestingly Crazy House doesn't have lots of fake stuff but still attracts plenty of Japanese because the girls are just naturally superior looking, on average.Just saw the report on the explosive. This explains the tension I witnessed.
Just came through the Asoke / Sukhumvit junction and seen a noticeable increase in numbers and edginess of the men in black with their obligatory shades. They have shut down the skywalk across the intersection, the first indication showing they can take over the BTS network whenever they want to. My take. The so called Bangkok shutdown is not working hence the need to racket up the stakes. How they felt that upsetting the residents of Bangkok and affecting their financial wellbeing was going to further their agenda puzzles me. Bangkok along with the south is their base so why shut it down. Meanwhile tourists are flocking to Chiangmai where business is booming.They shut down the skywalk for security reasons. However no big deal.
Bangkok has had bombs before. Things were far worse when the red shirts were protesting in the past. So some of us not feeling such high "tension" with the throng at Asoke. They are good people (largely). It did not bother me to pass through the throng at all. I still feel safer late at night here than what I would in New York, because I am used to it here.
Its really only the possibility of large escalation of the situation if red shirts should mass and confront, that is the concern. Then army would be forced to act.
So Sukhumvit mongering does not need to be affected, more than mild inconveniences like intersection closed and skywalk closed. I will have fun in Sukhumvit today completely as normal.
Just checked out the traffic on Sukhumvit on the Landmark's webcam. At 23:15 there was just a trickle of cars. I'm reading more reports that the numbers of people at the Asoke demonstration site grows at night. These reports say the sites are peaceful. Apparently the protesters spill over into Soi Cowboy. NEP is far removed from the protest site so it is less affected.Last night the protesters on Asoke intersection were fairly thinly spread. Walking on East side of Asoke (Cowboy entrance area) was not blocked at all around midnight. So I guess some protesters may go home and come back again another time. Has a big entertainment stage right in the intersection to entertain those who stay the whole night. Seems like a normal outdoor concert but less packed with people.
Paul Kausch
01-18-14, 06:34
Last night the protesters on Asoke intersection were fairly thinly spread. Walking on East side of Asoke (Cowboy entrance area) was not blocked at all around midnight. So I guess some protesters may go home and come back again another time. Has a big entertainment stage right in the intersection to entertain those who stay the whole night. Seems like a normal outdoor concert but less packed with people.I understand many officer workers are going to the Asoke intersection after work. Later at night they leave for home as they have to get up the next morning and go to work.
Funny Experience yesterday. A European guy and his Thai girl look lost. I am standing at Sukhumvit Soi 24 and looks like he just got of the Phrom Phong BTS. He asks me where is Soi 11. I say its a long way that way, but he should get back on the BTS rather than attempt to walk. He eventually admits he is looking for the Robin Hood (so Soi 11 is irrelevant). Ah, I say that that is across the road and head towards Asoke (at Soi 33/1). He insists it is the other direction and wants to head for Thonglor so I guess he has lost his bearings. Eventually I get out the Google Maps on the phone and show him us (blue spot) and RobinHood (red spot). Having smart phone with 3G is somewhat indespensible for the traveller not knowing his way around.
just a comment on the airport. i and a special lady from sakaeo (anesthesia nurse) flew over to singapore for a long weekend. when we arrived into the airport, around 10am, there were very few souls. when we got up to immigration and she went right to the thai side and i went up the farang side i have never seen so few people. maybe, maybe all of 12 rep001tered over a number of immigration officers.
maybe it was the time of day for i normally get in around 11:30am from the usa and it is crowded. i would like to see the spin tot puts on this.
just a comment on the airport. i and a special lady from sakaeo (anesthesia nurse) flew over to singapore for a long weekend. when we arrived into the airport, around 10am, there were very few souls. when we got up to immigration and she went right to the thai side and i went up the farang side i have never seen so few people. maybe, maybe all of 12 rep001tered over a number of immigration officers.
maybe it was the time of day for i normally get in around 11:30am from the usa and it is crowded. i would like to see the spin tot puts on this.in a morning interview with tot, they said the best time for flights to arrive is around 10 am and stressed that the afternoon and late evening time periods are busy times, so plan accordingly.
Fast Eddie 48
02-06-14, 09:18
just a comment on the airport. i and a special lady from sakaeo (anesthesia nurse) flew over to singapore for a long weekend. when we arrived into the airport, around 10am, there were very few souls. when we got up to immigration and she went right to the thai side and i went up the farang side i have never seen so few people. maybe, maybe all of 12 rep001tered over a number of immigration officers.
maybe it was the time of day for i normally get in around 11:30am from the usa and it is crowded. i would like to see the spin tot puts on this.to jgm005.
i arrive on cathay pacific from hong kong last week the flight was full arrive at 11. am only 3 people ahead of me at immgrations take the citylink train and mtr one stop to my hotel at asok i was in my room by 1pm.
fast eddie 48
Here are the ten countries in Euromonitor's database who consume the most liquor:
South Korea — 11. 2 shots / week.
Russia — 5. 0 shots / week.
Thailand — 4. 8 shots / week.
Poland — 4. 0 shots / week.
Japan — 3. 6 shots / week.
Philippines — 3. 5 shots / week.
Bulgaria — 3. 3 shots / week.
Slovakia — 3. 0 shots / week.
Ukraine — 2. 8 shots / week.
France — 2. 7 shots / week.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-drink-most-liquor-map-2014-2#ixzz2t3LvghOb
Who would have guessed. Any credence that the tourists are the main players or is it the local people. I would pick sex over liquor any day.
IndStallion31
02-16-14, 18:00
Hello members,
This will be my maiden trip to Thailand. I'm planning for ten or twelve days together. 5 or 6 days in pats. 3 days in Phuket. 2 days in BKK. I have few doubts regarding my trip and other details. I'm putting down things my queries here. I hope some of you will take patience and time to answer them. Some of them might be silly and naïve. Its because of information glut in internet, I get doubts regarding even basic things. Sorry for the trouble.
1) I'm planning my trip in June or July. Is it ok? Will there be too much floods by then?
2) I assess Pattaya as the best place for spending more no of days with respect to availability of choices in girls? Rooms? Etc is it right?
3) Where should I spend more no of days? BKK or Pattaya?
4) I heard we can get on-arrrival visa for tourist people for 2 weeks. Is it right? Will it be a hassle getting VISA on arrival?
5) I'm a loner. So when I book the room should I take single occupancy or double? Will they allow the girl to stay with me for Lt at nights if I take single occupancy?
6) Are there good hotels which can give rooms with bathtub or Jacuzzi facility, gym, wi-fi facility and decent housekeeping for around 1000bahts for a day? If some name a few best ones in BKK and Pattaya?
7) Where is better to exchange currency to get the best value? I'm from India. So I think its better to do it here itself. What is your opinion friends?
8) Though my trip is mainly for mongering, I would like to do other things too like scuba etc. Do suggest some places for that?
9) I would also like to know good salons for men in Pattaya where you can get good services for hair removal etc?
10) Which is the best places in patts and BKK in terms of girls? Quality and service? I know it depends but I just want to know about the average situation in June and July?
11) Is there any pick up joints for working girls? I'm trying dating websites also. Will it be helpful? If so tell me which ones are good in terms of genuine profiles?
12) How do to manage food? I heard its very costly for quality food? I'm a non vegetarian so no problem. But still will food be a problem.
13) Go-go or karaoke or BJ bar or massage parlours or BJ –bars? Which is the best deal for ST and LT respectively?
14) A major question. How to differentiate between girls and ladyboys? I have a big aversion towards them. How to avoid if some ladyboy is persisting you?
15) Suggest some good and cost effective soapies in BKK and Pattaya?
Now few general questions.
16) Where can I get cialis or any kind of that pills? In airport is it possible?
17) Where are duty free liquor shops located?
18) What are things to be bought in shopping in BKK and patts? The best one should buy in Thailand?
19) One more important question. Where can I get perfect tattooing done? BKK or pats? Name the best artists who are good? I don't want to catch any kind of disease?
20) Is it good to hire a 2 wheeler or is it convenient to take public transportation for travelling? I think going through different soi and places will be difficult? Is it so?
21) Which is the best quality condoms in Thailand. Are the common brands available there? I don't want to catch any kind of disease.
22) I will be landing in BKK don muang airport. What is the best way to go to patts? Taxi or train?
I might have more questions. Will follow it up later. I hope some of our members will answer my questions. I'm waiting.
Happy Mongering guys. Take care.
Pointy Stick
02-19-14, 06:32
Hello members,
9) I would also like to know good salons for men in Pattaya where you can get good services for hair removal etc?
Happy Mongering guys. Take care.This is new, so you want all your hair totally removed from your head? Is this a popular procedure in India?
I suspect no one is going to answer your questions because you haven't made an effort to RTFF. Many have spent time and effort contributing here for your benefit.
Hello members,
This will be my maiden trip to Thailand. .Don't be so lazy, Stall. All of your questions are already answered if you spend time reading.
Hello members,
This will be my maiden trip to Thailand. I'm planning for ten or twelve days together. 5 or 6 days in pats. 3 days in Phuket. 2 days in BKK. I have few doubts regarding my trip and other details. Sorry for the trouble.No trouble. Just stay in India and enjoy the local sights. You are just too lazy to RTFF. Ask specific questions and if you haven't found the answers we'll gladly help you.
BTW (By the Way) do RTFF (Read the F*g Forum)
This will be my maiden trip to Thailand. I'm planning for ten or twelve days together. 5 or 6 days in pats. 3 days in Phuket. 2 days in BKK. I have few doubts regarding my trip and other details. I'm putting down things my queries here. I hope some of you will take patience and time to answer them. Some of them might be silly and naïve. Its because of information glut in internet, I get doubts regarding even basic things. Sorry for the trouble.You had the cheek to post this same list of questions on another forum, where someone was kind enough to respond. Now you post the same questions here. The other answers weren't good enough for you? You want us all to busy ourselves answering your rather ignorant questions?
RTFF indeed.
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