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I'm as guilty as anyone of getting off topic and hijacking threads. But, IMHO, this is the General thread and isn't a bad place for non-skirt-chasing topics.This is the 'General Reports' thread which gives the impression that people will be reporting something of importance, not a place for off topic rants. We had the same issue in the German FKK section under the same 'general reports' topic, that was easily fixed by adding a 'lounge and chat area' which really helped clean up the off topic subjects from getting in the way of actual reports. Then instead of telling them to quit posting on the subject you just suggest they take it the lounge area.
I started a new thread titled "Thailand Lounge and Chat Area", its at the bottom section of the page, just direct any off topic comments to that area.
While it may seem a bit strange, I understand that if you had your money in a Thai account before the crash of 2008, you would have lost nothing. I don't know any Americans who can say the same thing. Thailand has its share of problems, but they don't have Bush / Obama / The Federal Reserve doing their best to trash the dollar.
I'm sorry but saying something patently false and ludicrous doesn't make it true. This kind of uninformed nonsense is offensive. And by the way, these days the USA Dollar is beating the s**t out of most other currencies.
I stayed at Suk-Soi 22.
I stayed at Admiral Suites near Queens Hotel on Soi 22.
I like this area, has many bars on the west side of the street as you're heading to Sukhumvit Rd (the main drag). On the east side of the street, many foot and body massage places. Seems a little catered to the Japanese.
It is also close to Soi 33 which is really catered to the Japanese and basically Japanese area with many massage places and the testicle massage place called Honey.
So I partied on Suk-Soi 22, got drunk at the bars at the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 22 (across from the Holiday Inn).
Same Same at these bars as most bars, girls wanting you to come in and have a drink, lady drinks, and take out. Beers are cheaper, but my experience is the scene was just on the west side of the Soi. I didn't venture out much more than Soi 31 and Soi 33 in the area, but those are dead Sois in my opinion.Agree. Queens park plaza is alive and well. I posted in Bangkok reports.
It is also close to Soi 33 which is really catered to the Japanese and basically Japanese area with many massage places and the testicle massage place called Honey. So I partied on Suk-Soi 22, got drunk at the bars at the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 22 (across from the Holiday Inn). I didn't venture out much more than Soi 31 and Soi 33 in the area, but those are dead Sois in my opinion.Queens Park close to a lot of things, (Soi 31 and 33 a completely different topic). Anyhow, with pool bars it is Pattaya-like format. Barfines of 600 with short time no rush, 2000 baht. Some bars (the one near Meow Meow) staffed with 19-22 year-old cohort exclusively, but still must sort out for non-child. Some new girls amidst the pros. Longtime options also available. And beer at only 100 baht is nice.
I'm sorry but saying something patently false and ludicrous doesn't make it true. This kind of uninformed nonsense is offensive. And by the way, these days the USA Dollar is beating the s**t out of most other currencies.Let's see. The stock market took like a $7 Billion hit in 2008. I don't think Thailand did, maybe you know differently. I work with many companies who took a hell of a beating during the recession. Thailand had a recessions, but not nearly to the degree of the US, and has recovered quite nicely.
The US now had $18 Trillion of debt. The country's GDP is around $17 Trillion. The US had record tax revenues this year, but still couldn't quite make ends meet, to the tune of around $480 Billion. That's OK, the Fed just prints more money. This is a recipe for disaster.
Yes, the dollar is strong, lately, due in no small part to the ham-handed ways the Europeans and Japanese have been handling their currencies. But, based on the above, how long can it last? From Bush through Obama the debt-to-GDP ratio has gone from around 56% to about 103%. How anybody can look at these facts and not think these are deliberate actions is beyond me. Anyway, those are the thoughts behind my comments. You don't have to agree, but I don't think they are completely uninformed.
Mod, feel free to move this to the appropriate thread.
Gin And Tonic
02-23-15, 14:58
While it may seem a bit strange, I understand that if you had your money in a Thai account before the crash of 2008, you would have lost nothing. I don't know any Americans who can say the same thing. Thailand has its share of problems, but they don't have Bush / Obama / The Federal Reserve doing their best to trash the dollar.
Now the problem lately is whether or not you, as a US Citizen, can get a bank account. I will try to do this, again, in April. I got busy last trip and just didn't get it done. The issue now, however, is FATCA. Stories abound about banks refusing accounts if held by a US national, based upon odious and insane reporting and withholding requirements. AFAIK, some Thai banks will still allow US holders. I'll report more later.
All rooms were private, just some were bigger than others. My only real complaint is that Thai doctors tend to overmedicate the hell out of you, and antibiotics are prescribed far too often.There is only one solution to such nonsense, turn off Faux News now.
There is only one solution to such nonsense, turn off Faux News now.Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, FATCA is still a major issue for US expats all over the world. When Uncle Sam comes knocking, demanding a cut of your earnings, even though they are not earned in the US, nor spent in the US, you have a problem. Some banks have decided they don't want to be the enforcement arm for the US Treasury Dept. I don't blame them.
You will go to the Taxi queue on the 2nd (floor. You will tell the lady at the desk (the dispatcher) where you're going, she'll write it down and give it to the driver. She'll give you a copy. Keep it, as it has the driver's number, etc. , on it, should you have any problems. She may remind you that you have to pay for the expressway tolls. If she doesn't, the driver will. You can't go to the next taxi, etc. , as the dispatcher assigns your taxi to you.
I always go upstairs to arrivals and pick a taxi there. There are lots. No waiting in the queue and no 50 Baht surcharge. They are always so relieved to get a customer, have not experienced anyone trying to rip me off. I avoid any guy chasing me eagerly. I pick one waiting patiently at his taxi.
I switched from the Bangkok Thread since its not a mongering topic.
The world's most unfaithful country.
According Statista Thailand occupies a first place in the most unfaithful nation in the world. A whopping 56% of respondents Thais have admitted that they have had an affair or two during their marriage.
See the full list here:
1. Thailand (56%.
2. Denmark (46%.
3. Germany (45%.
4. Italy (45%.
5. France (43%.
6. Belgium (40%.
7. Norway (40%.
8. Spain (39%.
9. Finland (36%.
10. United Kingdom (36%.
Let's see. The stock market took like a $7 Billion hit in 2008. I don't think Thailand did, maybe you know differently. I work with many companies who took a hell of a beating during the recession. Thailand had a recessions, but not nearly to the degree of the US, and has recovered quite nicely.
The US now had $18 Trillion of debt. The country's GDP is around $17 Trillion. The US had record tax revenues this year, but still couldn't quite make ends meet, to the tune of around $480 Billion. That's OK, the Fed just prints more money. This is a recipe for disaster.
Yes, the dollar is strong, lately, due in no small part to the ham-handed ways the Europeans and Japanese have been handling their currencies. But, based on the above, how long can it last? From Bush through Obama the debt-to-GDP ratio has gone from around 56% to about 103%. How anybody can look at these facts and not think these are deliberate actions is beyond me. Anyway, those are the thoughts behind my comments. You don't have to agree, but I don't think they are completely uninformed.
Mod, feel free to move this to the appropriate thread.Within about two months of the 2008 global financial crisis, the Thai SETI lost about 45 percent of its value so if you were saying Thais who had their money in Thai stocks lost nothing, that is incorrect. On the other hand, when you earlier referred to having money in an account, it seemed you were referring to a bank account not a stock market brokerage account, unless I missed something in this regard.
Contrary to your earlier suggestion, those of us who had money in normal US Bank accounts lost nothing even if the bank went bankrupt. This was owing to FDIC insurance (with the exception of those few--if any-- individuals dumb enough to exceed the deposit maximum of $250,000 per bank account rather than deposit monies in excess of $250,000 in a different account.
Old New Guy
02-25-15, 13:21
Contrary to your earlier suggestion, those of us who had money in normal US Bank accounts lost nothing even if the bank went bankrupt. This was owing to FDIC insurance (with the exception of those few--if any-- individuals dumb enough to exceed the deposit maximum of $250,000 per bank account rather than deposit monies in excess of $250,000 in a different account.Actually I don't recall any retail bank bankrupted on that occasion. Also I don't recall any FDIC intervention at all.
Actually I don't recall any retail bank bankrupted on that occasion. Also I don't recall any FDIC intervention at all.I think you are probably right. I probably was thinking about the much earlier savings and loan crisis, where I believe there was some FDIC intervention.
JesseJames
02-25-15, 20:25
I think you are probably right. I probably was thinking about the much earlier savings and loan crisis, where I believe there was some FDIC intervention.Yes Thai banks did go bankrupt and depositors lost money. Siam (something) was one of them taken over by a US bank but depositors went under. No depositors in USA banks lost money thanks to FDIC.
Within about two months of the 2008 global financial crisis, the Thai SETI lost about 45 percent of its value so if you were saying Thais who had their money in Thai stocks lost nothing, that is incorrect. On the other hand, when you earlier referred to having money in an account, it seemed you were referring to a bank account not a stock market brokerage account, unless I missed something in this regard.
Contrary to your earlier suggestion, those of us who had money in normal US Bank accounts lost nothing even if the bank went bankrupt. This was owing to FDIC insurance (with the exception of those few--if any-- individuals dumb enough to exceed the deposit maximum of $250,000 per bank account rather than deposit monies in excess of $250,000 in a different account.You're correct. My statement was poorly written. Nobody lost any physical dollars, and I didn't suggest that any banks failed. As an aside, loads of businesses went bankrupt and loads more lost their houses in this government-manufactured and exacerbated recession. While this wasn't a bank account, strictly speaking, many millions were lost. I don't recall reading of lots of homeless Thais flooding the rental markets during this time, nor seeing pictures of vacant, heavily foreclosed neighborhoods throughout Thailand.
But, the point was money in a US account vs. Thailand. Before TARP, the bailout, etc. , the Baht was, what, around 40:1? Damn near overnight it went to around 25. The dollar tanked all over the place, not just Thailand. One may not have lost any physical dollars from their FDIC-insured accounts, but they were worth a fraction of what they were a day before. Contrast this with the Baht that remained strong for the next two years, or so. The dollar eventually began to gain ground and is now a bit over 30, but that's still 75% of what it was before the start of this debacle. Had somebody had their money in a Thai account they would have "lost" nothing during this time.
That was what I, so inelegantly tried to say.
You're correct. My statement was poorly written. Nobody lost any physical dollars, and I didn't suggest that any banks failed. As an aside, loads of businesses went bankrupt and loads more lost their houses in this government-manufactured and exacerbated recession. While this wasn't a bank account, strictly speaking, many millions were lost. I don't recall reading of lots of homeless Thais flooding the rental markets during this time, nor seeing pictures of vacant, heavily foreclosed neighborhoods throughout Thailand.
But, the point was money in a US account vs. Thailand. Before TARP, the bailout, etc. , the Baht was, what, around 40:1? Damn near overnight it went to around 25. The dollar tanked all over the place, not just Thailand. One may not have lost any physical dollars from their FDIC-insured accounts, but they were worth a fraction of what they were a day before. Contrast this with the Baht that remained strong for the next two years, or so. The dollar eventually began to gain ground and is now a bit over 30, but that's still 75% of what it was before the start of this debacle. Had somebody had their money in a Thai account they would have "lost" nothing during this time.
That was what I, so inelegantly tried to say.Actually, the last time the dollar to baht conversion rate was over 40 to 1 was around January 2006, about three years before TARP. The most significant recent drop in the value of the dollar relative to the baht took place from January 2006 to around August 2007, with the conversion rate dropping from around 40 to 1 to 30 to 1. In 2008, the year of TARP, the dollar strengthened against the baht, starting the year at just under 30 to 1, and ending it at just under 35 to 1. In 2009 the dollar weakened a bit relative to the Thai baht but nothing dramatic, ending the year at a tad over 33 to 1.
In short, there is nothing to suggest the conversion rate went from around 40 to 1 to around 25 to 1 almost overnight, and very little, if anything, to tie any significant changes in the conversion rate to TARP or the bailout, etc.
www.oanda.com is a good source for tracking currency rates and historical data for those interested in such things.
I know this question is more suitable for a mainstream forum but since we have quite a few folks here that are employed in BKK, I was wondering what kind of jobs are available for expats? Please be specific about job title and description rather than a vague explanation which makes it difficult to figure out exactly what kinda job opportunities exist in Thailand, if any.
I won't mind hearing about business opportunities either.
Thank you.
Fast Eddie 48
02-27-15, 00:31
Actually, the last time the dollar to baht conversion rate was over 40 to 1 was around January 2006, about three years before TARP. The most significant recent drop in the value of the dollar relative to the baht took place from January 2006 to around August 2007, with the conversion rate dropping from around 40 to 1 to 30 to 1. In 2008, the year of TARP, the dollar strengthened against the baht, starting the year at just under 30 to 1, and ending it at just under 35 to 1. In 2009 the dollar weakened a bit relative to the Thai baht but nothing dramatic, ending the year at a tad over 33 to 1.
In short, there is nothing to suggest the conversion rate went from around 40 to 1 to around 25 to 1 almost overnight, and very little, if anything, to tie any significant changes in the conversion rate to TARP or the bailout, etc.
www.oanda.com is a good source for tracking currency rates and historical data for those interested in such things.To LA Guy.
I been going to Bangkok since 1995 first time back then 1 USD is about 28 bht, the highest is back in the early 1998 it was over 53 bht to a dollar because of the Asia crisis every and I buy some gold chain in Chinatown gold back then is very cheap under 300 usd for an oz wish I bought more back then, you can get girl at Thermae café back then for 800 bht ST and 1200 bht all night.
Fast eddie 48.
I know this question is more suitable for a mainstream forum but since we have quite a few folks here that are employed in BKK, I was wondering what kind of jobs are available for expats? Please be specific about job title and description rather than a vague explanation which makes it difficult to figure out exactly what kinda job opportunities exist in Thailand, if any.
I won't mind hearing about business opportunities either.
Thank you.I have been working in SE Asia for 18 years full-time now.
If you paid for a membership I assume some other expats along with me might PM you with some assistance, but I am not putting it on the open board.
To LA Guy.
I been going to Bangkok since 1995 first time back then 1 USD is about 28 bht, the highest is back in the early 1998 it was over 53 bht to a dollar because of the Asia crisis every and I buy some gold chain in Chinatown gold back then is very cheap under 300 usd for an oz wish I bought more back then, you can get girl at Thermae caf back then for 800 bht ST and 1200 bht all night.
Fast eddie 48.I am surprised by what you say for 1995. Are you sure you got the year right?
Prices must have gone up dramatically. My 2nd trip to Thailand after a long break was approx. 1991 or 1992. I could typically get a girl for whole night from Soi Cowboy for 500 Baht back then (in one case just 400 baht and hard to get rid of her). Can't recall if there were any full nude bars. ST virtually did not exist for bargirls (at least I did not hear of it). I don't recall ever doing short time except in a massage place or a Phat Phong back room. I was not into Nana Plaza at the time as it definitely did not have fully nude girls (and only a few bars), although it did have nudity a few years later at Hollywood then Bubblegum, Pretty Lady, Voodoo etc. I did try Phat Phong back then (with full nudity upstairs) like Pussy Galore, Queens Castle, Supergirl, Lipstick?, Firecat, etc. and having Annies Rose and Kangaroo BJ bars where almost anything went on in the bar area. I took girls from Thermae for whole night too at that time (no STs were ever suggested). Some really hot girls who were only part time free lancers. I don't actually remember if prices for them were any different. I seem to recall the price for a girl at the Thermae Soapy Parlour upstairs was a little higher. Not sure how much longer it lasted before being torn down.
My first trip was 1984 or 85 but had very limited play-up opportunities (married) then so don't know what the prices were. I did visit my first Bangkok and Chiang Mai Soapies though, the first somewhat by accident not knowing what went on when I walked in for a look (and I could not speak Thai at all). It was in a low even numbered Soi of Sukhumvit, not Annies or Darling, so obviously was torn down for redevelopment by time I returned in 1992. Its been very hard to find out what it was called. The matriarch "Annie" would presumably know. I should chat to her one day.
A buddy of mine was going to Thailand regularly, well before me and he remembers when could get a fuck for 100 Baht. Ha Ha! I have heard $10 girls still exist in Cambodia in areas out of town where they have no English.
Supermarket prices have risen badly too. Foodland had a grilled chicken thigh with leg for 69 Baht. That is about quarter of a chicken. I can could get that for less in Germany grilled chicken shop. It seems not many years since that would have been 20 Baht. It may well be longer ago than I think. Perhaps nearly 15 years ago. Imported coffee grounds is so expensive in the supermarket that its much cheaper to buy in Germany and put in the suitcase. I guess local Thais don't drink Lavazza or Segafreddo etc. It just costs far too much.
TwoTimeTed
02-28-15, 09:53
I have resisted paying a membership.
Why? Well, My thinking is, this is a public forum (on the internet) and its free to read and post (sign up).
I have got a lot of insight from my state-side mongering and escapades, but not on an international level.
Why do you other mongers give a darn whether some people have a membership or not? I guess you want them to have skin in the game before you release info?
But for a first time international-monger like myself, I looked for a one time interactive informative river of info.
I often asked myself, why pay if I'm only going to one country this year and there is a variety of info out there?
I'm not knocking this place, but I am trying to say, be sympathetic to newbies who are just going to (insert country) for the first time.
I do see the value in signing up now. I missed many things in my exploits to Thailand, PMs that I would have got to give advice, stay clear from, to visit, or to give that extra nudge of information that was lacking in the forums.
Now that I want to explore other countries, its a no-brainer to sign up. The valuable insight of first hand experience is worth it. At this writing I have not signed up, but ask how the subscription is billed to my credit card.
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I have heard $10 girls still exist in Cambodia in areas out of town where they have no English.Not only in areas out of town but also in Phnom Penh. The SWs around Wat Phnom can be had for $10 or even less if you're a tough bargainer.
You don't have be a paying member. The privileges are not much different. You can easily check the list of privileges and see if they appeal or not. I would gladly pay for a new membership with new handle if I could get of of probation review mode very quickly.
Now that I want to explore other countries, its a no-brainer to sign up. The valuable insight of first hand experience is worth it. At this writing I have not signed up, but ask how the subscription is billed to my credit card.
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Your credit card statement will show a charge in the name of "GT*isginternetsale18888890788". Any internet search for this name will not show any indication that you have bought a subscription to this forum.
A problem I sometimes have in Thailand is accidentally meeting some girl whose face I know. First I have to remember if I ever fucked her. 2nd have to remember if she is from a bar or MP or some completely innocent location.
One day this week met a girl I have fucked in Foodland. Fortunately knew who it was. She works in Tilac when she is not too lazy to show up.
Today met a girl with sexy lips in Tesco / Lotus. So far can't remember where I know her from. I guess I will know next time I see her.
Woman selling Som Tam and grilled chicken looks like mamasan at Doll House so I wondered where I knew her from.
One day this week met a girl I have fucked in Foodland.So you fucked her in Foodland? Sounds like an interesting story, LOL!
It seems like Bkk streets are about to get a makeover.
http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/asia-pacific/85401-bangkok-street-stalls-crackdown?utm_content=buffer781c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
This is my first time visiting Bangkok and one thing I have not liked is the difficulty in walking down a street in the Suk area. Frequently, pedestrians have to leave the sidewalk due to congestion and dozens of vendors and find themselves on the main Suk road. Walking on Suk can be a very unpleasant expereince. The same is true for many of the Sois.
A few days ago, someone told me a pedestrian was killed while walking on the street when he was struck by a large bus mirror attached to a public bus. Other times, the sidewalk is broken or electric wires are stretched across to provide electricity for the vendors. These are all obvious public safety hazards.
I have been to Singapore and they have some nice hawking centers easily accessible to tourists and the general public. Hopefully, they can find the open space to create the same in the Suk / Nana area though that might be a problem since there appears to be little public open space available.
I would bet that very few of these vendors have legitimate licenses and clearly there is no sales tax or VAT attached to their prices so the city really benefits very little in generating revenue unless there is corruption involved in allowing these vendors to set up shop in these areas. Maybe, I should set up a stand selling, for example, used English and German books and see what happens?
I noticed the same thing in Pattaya this week. The city built this beautiful pedestrian beach paved path and it is now impossible to walk on due to all the vendor stands. Several posters in late 2014 said the vendors would stop effective the end of 2014 but, guess what, they are still there clogging up the path.
It seems like Bkk streets are about to get a makeover.
http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/asia-pacific/85401-bangkok-street-stalls-crackdown?utm_content=buffer781c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Yes, do tell. Did it happen in produce? 555.
So you fucked her in Foodland? Sounds like an interesting story, LOL!
I noticed the same thing in Pattaya this week. The city built this beautiful pedestrian beach paved path and it is now impossible to walk on due to all the vendor stands. Several posters in late 2014 said the vendors would stop effective the end of 2014 but, guess what, they are still there clogging up the path.
Nobody said they would stop permanently. On the contrary: most likely they will clog up Beach Road more and more going forward.
This is my first time visiting Bangkok and one thing I have not liked is the difficulty in walking down a street in the Suk area. Frequently, pedestrians have to leave the sidewalk due to congestion and dozens of vendors and find themselves on the main Suk road. Walking on Suk can be a very unpleasant expereince. The same is true for many of the Sois.
A few days ago, someone told me a pedestrian was killed.Those that are here many years get used to it. I walk on the road all the time but watch out for vehicles of course. Another option is to walk on even numbered Soi side of Sukhumwit road. I can't stand to be behind casually strolling pedestrians, that insist on blocking the way and some of them stink too. Take a motorcycle short ride to just zoom past it.
Avoid this section of Suk completely. There is nothing to interest me in Soi 3 to 7. If I wanted to get to Soi 7/1 I would take motorcycle there or to Soi 11 and its a very short walk from there. Just plan the best efficient way to get to your destination. I like Foodland late but use Soi 16 branch. Correction I do go to Check Inn 99 on occasion located right in the middle of the bad stretch.
Old New Guy
03-01-15, 07:24
This is my first time visiting Bangkok and one thing I have not liked is the difficulty in walking down a street in the Suk area. ...
Several posters in late 2014 said the vendors would stop effective the end of 2014 but, guess what, they are still there clogging up the path.That is the first-impression Bangkok that makes one hate the city forever, as did it to me many years ago. You may have missed the show when some high-raking police was arrested over corruption and street vendors. Nothing has changed and nothing will ever change. It is just about letting the big bazaar continue. There's zero concept of "responsibility" and "improvement", all what matters is that motor traffic can still relatively flow *, all the others can just get lost. Rich Thais don't walk anyway.
* exception, in Pattaya the traffic manager has decided that thousands of vehicles stuck for hours is better than moving traffic. Here is not even about corruption, but plain idiocy and hubris.
It seems like Bkk streets are about to get a makeover.
http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/asia-pacific/85401-bangkok-street-stalls-crackdown?utm_content=buffer781c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=bufferInteresting. Says nothing about a crackdown on Nigerian drug dealers some would hope for. Priorities are screwed up as usual, I guess the palms are being greased along the corridor of powers.
This is my first time visiting Bangkok and one thing I have not liked is the difficulty in walking down a street in the Suk area. Frequently, pedestrians have to leave the sidewalk due to congestion and dozens of vendors and find themselves on the main Suk road. Walking on Suk can be a very unpleasant expereince. The same is true for many of the Sois.The even numbered Suk side has a few vendors and wide side walks. No real issue. The odd numbered Suk side is a completely different story. In November 2014 I noticed the vendors were generally setting up later (7/8 pm) and Monday's were vendor free days which was a huge quality of life increase. I could hear the other people on the sidewalks talking about how nice it was when it was vendor free. For the rare time I purchase something I really did not need anyway (tshirts / belts / socks) I would vote for a greatly reduced presence.
A few days ago, someone told me a pedestrian was killed while walking on the street when he was struck by a large bus mirror attached to a public bus. Other times, the sidewalk is broken or electric wires are stretched across to provide electricity for the vendors. These are all obvious public safety hazards.In the US there is the America Disability Act (ADA) where basically public spaces must provide wheelchair access. I often think about that in LOS and how near difficult it must be for people with mobility issues to move about.
SL.
Wolvenvacht
03-02-15, 20:56
The answer is in the FAQ section:
What name will appear on my credit card statement?
Your credit card statement will show a charge in the name of "GT*i s g i n t e r n e t s a l e 1 8 8 8 8 8 9 0 7 8 8 ". Any internet search for this name will not show any indication that you have bought a subscription to this forum.Except that now if you google "I s g I n t e r n e t s a l e" it will lead you straight to your posting.
I guess Jackson will have to search for something new to put on the credit card statements in the future and all of us who paid in the past are now hosed..
Thank you Mogwai.
Except that now if you google "I s g I n t e r n e t s a l e" it will lead you straight to your posting.
I guess Jackson will have to search for something new to put on the credit card statements in the future and all of us who paid in the past are now hosed..
Thank you Mogwai."Any internet search for this name will not show any indication that you have bought a subscription to this forum."
I don't know why that is, maybe it has to do with the spaces between the letters?
Anyway, IF a search for this name leads to this site then it already lead to this site before my post because this name was already there in the FAQ section. Duh!
Monsieur1875
03-03-15, 14:04
As you may know, Wednesday is 'buddha day' in Thailand.
Do you know if if it will be business as usual in Massage parlors and soapies?
As for bars, I heard they are not allowed to sell alcohol?
Thanks!
I was told that June 1 was Buddha's Birthday, so it was a holiday. Will a lot of places be closed? Restaurants? Bars? Will liquor sales be restricted?
Christian G
03-19-15, 19:28
I was told that June 1 was Buddha's Birthday, so it was a holiday. Will a lot of places be closed? Restaurants? Bars? Will liquor sales be restricted?Is a Visakha Bucha Day http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/.
I think many place will be close.
Is a Visakha Bucha Day http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/.
I think many place will be close.Thank you for the information. I will plan accordingly.
There's always been a passionate debate on this board about "tipping. " It mostly applies to tipping the girls for services provided. Some nationalities don't tip and other do. Those who do tip are often faulted for being too generously or too stingy so it's a damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
Anyway, I hadn't been in Thailand in nearly 5 years, but on my most recent trip, I noticed something that I hadn't seen before. A 10% service charge automatically added to restaurant bills and some hotel bills.
By restaurants, I mean the sit down ones with waitresses who serve you, the kind that you find in large shopping malls like Terminal 21 and MBK in Bangkok and the big mall in Pattaya.
I also noticed that Grand President Hotel in Bangkok added a "service charge" to my bill. I'm aware some hotel's will add a VAT or some other government tax, but this charge was separately itemized as a "service charge".
I wasn't upset since I've seen the automatic inclusion of a service charge by some restaurants in the USA, Europe, and South America (a steak house in Buenos Aires). In those cases, I just don't leave a tip but I always wonder if the business pockets the service charge instead of giving the money to the serving staff.
The service charge by the hotel was, however, a surprise.
Is this automatically including a service charge something new in Bangkok / Pattaya or was I simply more diligent at looking at my bills on this trip?
There's always been a passionate debate on this board about "tipping. " It mostly applies to tipping the girls for services provided. Some nationalities don't tip and other do. Those who do tip are often faulted for being too generously or too stingy so it's a damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
Anyway, I hadn't been in Thailand in nearly 5 years, but on my most recent trip, I noticed something that I hadn't seen before. A 10% service charge automatically added to restaurant bills and some hotel bills.
By restaurants, I mean the sit down ones with waitresses who serve you, the kind that you find in large shopping malls like Terminal 21 and MBK in Bangkok and the big mall in Pattaya.
I also noticed that Grand President Hotel in Bangkok added a "service charge" to my bill. I'm aware some hotel's will add a VAT or some other government tax, but this charge was separately itemized as a "service charge".
I wasn't upset since I've seen the automatic inclusion of a service charge by some restaurants in the USA, Europe, and South America (a steak house in Buenos Aires). In those cases, I just don't leave a tip but I always wonder if the business pockets the service charge instead of giving the money to the serving staff.
The service charge by the hotel was, however, a surprise.
Is this automatically including a service charge something new in Bangkok / Pattaya or was I simply more diligent at looking at my bills on this trip?I usually stay at a 5-star hotel in Bangkok and as best as I can remember they have always added a 10 percent service charge to the bill (I started staying there maybe 10 years ago). But I haven't paid super close attention to this and my memory about it may not be precise.
The service charge by the hotel was, however, a surprise.
Is this automatically including a service charge something new in Bangkok / Pattaya or was I simply more diligent at looking at my bills on this trip?I've noticed the standard service charge for at least 10 years. Usually, you pay an extra 17% (10% service charge and 7% VAT) over the price quoted. It is important to take this in to consideration when comparing prices from different booking websites. Some include the 17% and some don't.
I still leave a tip for the maid on check out, especially if I have had messy girls. But since I realized that the security guard that checks the room upon checkout has probably been grabbing it, I've started to leave it under the pillow.
MichaelSamuel
04-08-15, 03:09
Can't say how much this apply across borders, but a friend works in management at one of the big casinos in Macao. We had a discussion about tipping and the service charge and he said none of that goes to the employees, at least not as a separate payment. I suppose you could say it's included in their salary. I can't say if it's the same in Thailand, but wouldn't be surprised.
As for seeing it around Bangkok I recall seeing virtually everywhere at any place that uses a digital bill system. Possible though that maybe MICROS or whatever is the most popular point of sale system in Thailand got software update recently? Also maybe the the new government is cracking down on collecting their end?
A few of the smaller hotels it's included in the price so you don't see a separate item, but some of the booking sites show a lower price and then you see the service charge later which makes the net the equal.
There's always been a passionate debate on this board about "tipping. " It mostly applies to tipping the girls for services provided. Some nationalities don't tip and other do. Those who do tip are often faulted for being too generously or too stingy so it's a damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
Anyway, I hadn't been in Thailand in nearly 5 years, but on my most recent trip, I noticed something that I hadn't seen before. A 10% service charge automatically added to restaurant bills and some hotel bills.
By restaurants, I mean the sit down ones with waitresses who serve you, the kind that you find in large shopping malls like Terminal 21 and MBK in Bangkok and the big mall in Pattaya.
I also noticed that Grand President Hotel in Bangkok added a "service charge" to my bill. I'm aware some hotel's will add a VAT or some other government tax, but this charge was separately itemized as a "service charge".
I wasn't upset since I've seen the automatic inclusion of a service charge by some restaurants in the USA, Europe, and South America (a steak house in Buenos Aires). In those cases, I just don't leave a tip but I always wonder if the business pockets the service charge instead of giving the money to the serving staff.
The service charge by the hotel was, however, a surprise.
Is this automatically including a service charge something new in Bangkok / Pattaya or was I simply more diligent at looking at my bills on this trip?
I've noticed the standard service charge for at least 10 years. Usually, you pay an extra 17% (10% service charge and 7% VAT) over the price quoted. It is important to take this in to consideration when comparing prices from different booking websites. Some include the 17% and some don't.
I still leave a tip for the maid on check out, especially if I have had messy girls. But since I realized that the security guard that checks the room upon checkout has probably been grabbing it, I've started to leave it under the pillow.Your point about making sure any comparison of rates is apples to apples (i.e., either both including the service charge, or both not including it) particularly becomes relevant when comparing prepaid reservations (which would include the charge) and those that are not prepaid (where the service charge may not be included in the base rate quote)..
As to tipping the maid (or maids) I usually leave tips every day on the bed. This way the maids get tips proportional to the number of days they have made up my room. What I don't know is whether the maids are obliged to share their tips with the other maids in a sort of common fund (as many bellmen are so required).
Paul Kausch
04-08-15, 03:43
I've noticed the standard service charge for at least 10 years. Usually, you pay an extra 17% (10% service charge and 7% VAT) over the price quoted. It is important to take this in to consideration when comparing prices from different booking websites. Some include the 17% and some don't.
I still leave a tip for the maid on check out, especially if I have had messy girls. But since I realized that the security guard that checks the room upon checkout has probably been grabbing it, I've started to leave it under the pillow.I have never stayed in a hotel in Bangkok that did not add 17.7% to the bill, a ten percent service charge and 7.7% VAT.
I commend you for tipping the maid who cleans your room. I recommend you leave a little something for the maid every day. This will ensure the lady who cleans your room that day, that person may change from day to day, will receive your tip; and you will likely get better service from housekeeping over the course of your stay. I make it a practice of doing this and special requests like extra towels, having my room made up at a specific time, et cetera are always taken care of with a smile.
I've seen the 17% a lot, but I'm not sure it is universal. I don't trust management to pass it on, so like others have said, I leave something on the table or desk. I had a weird Pattaya experience where she did not take it even though it was in plain sight, so I grabbed the notepad and carefully copied the Thai for "maid" and left it with the money the next day. It worked: The money was gone. But there was a problem: She had written something below my artwork. I took it with me to the bars and had a BG read it: "Thank You". I carry that thing, folded so the thank-you is gone, with me on every trip.
I still leave a tip for the maid on check out, especially if I have had messy girls. But since I realized that the security guard that checks the room upon checkout has probably been grabbing it, I've started to leave it under the pillow.That's the reason I always hand over the tip to the maid (s) personally, usually at the end of my stay.
I never tip daily and I have never noticed a decline in service because of that. But most of the time I'm staying in the same hotels where the maids know me and they know I will tip them in the end.
How much do you guys tip? I give them 100 B per week or 20 B per day for a short stay.
That's the reason I always hand over the tip to the maid (s) personally, usually at the end of my stay.
I never tip daily and I have never noticed a decline in service because of that. But most of the time I'm staying in the same hotels where the maids know me and they know I will tip them in the end.
How much do you guys tip? I give them 100 B per week or 20 B per day for a short stay.I usually give 60 or 80 baht a day, but it is for a very large suite (harder to clean) in a five-star hotel. I know many would tip less (and perhaps a few would tip more), but I am comfortable giving this amount.
Have used this on this trip, anyone who says ladies are not trolling on here have not even tried. My experience after the initial greeting. By about the 3rd reply is where your room LOL.
Here's some samples of what's out there, since it is an open app, anyone in proximity can see same photos.
the girls ask same $ as working from bar or gogo but quickly concede for lesser baht as they realize it is afternoon bonus $$ and that as not a first time visitor, money exchanged, good for me, good for them .
The doe eyed one is from airport gogo btw ....
Paul Kausch
04-08-15, 13:20
How much do you guys tip?
I usually tip THB 100 per day.
I usually give 60 or 80 baht a day, but it is for a very large suite (harder to clean) in a five-star hotel. I know many would tip less (and perhaps a few would tip more), but I am comfortable giving this amount.I usually accumulate a bag of dirty clothes about every 5 days, and I give it to the maid to pass along to the hotel's laundry service. I hand the maid 100 baht along with the bag, and I always get a huge smile, and top-notch service for the duration of my stay. 100 baht means so little to me, but it means a whole lot to a poor maid.
Naked Gunz
04-08-15, 16:14
I give them 100 B per week or 20 B per day for a short stay.Sounds kind of low. 100/ day minimum. They work together in most rooms also. Your splitting 20 baht between two women.
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?
Paul Kausch
04-13-15, 03:24
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?You may not even get to BBK. When I depart from the USA, the airline checks the expiration date on my passport before issuing my ticket.
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months? Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?Paul K has answered the Q -- you will (or should be) denied boarding in the USA. Your airline is liable for a fine (I don't know how much) and is responsible for the cost of your immediate return to the US if by chance you get aboard. The fine for the airline was US $1 k some years ago, so they take the visa check seriously.
You should be able to get a passport quickly, however. Good luck!
TTG.
KeepItBurnin
04-13-15, 04:34
Is this website reliable guys?
http://devilsdenthailand.com/profiles/97/Jane.html this girl looks really nice. Anyone ever tried her?
SirWilliam4
04-13-15, 05:34
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?Don't take a chance. Just get your passport renewed before you leave and rest easy. Only takes a couple of days if you get the expedited service.
SW4.
You may not even get to BBK. When I depart from the USA, the airline checks the expiration date on my passport before issuing my ticket.Actually they check at check-in in my case. (You can enter what you want on line). It is up to us to make sure of this validity requirement. It can be a bummer to reach the airport and not be allowed to get in.
Mumbai Guy
04-13-15, 07:06
Yes. The Devil's den is a reputed joint in Pattaya just like the Eden's in BKK. The website is authentic but the photos may be a bit touched up. I have not taken this particular girl but have availed the services of two other girls. The services are good though a bit mechanical but the costs are reasonable.
Is this website reliable guys?
http://devilsdenthailand.com/profiles/97/Jane.html this girl looks really nice. Anyone ever tried her?
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.I wouldn't call this rule "fascism" OMG.
It is an international convention; widely publicized and understood and you will find it clearly stated on EVERY visa information blurb for every country in the world.
I personally know a US traveller with more than 5 months (but less than 6) remaining on his PP who managed to get past the airline check-in in the USA only to find that he was stopped from entry to the Philippines. He was held in a room until the return flight was ready to leave and he was frog-marched back on board. He argued that he was here for 9 days only; he waved his ticket around as proof. Sorry Sir. Rules is rules.
He forfeited his ticket and it was a long arduous lesson learned. Imagine flying from New York to Manila, spending around 1 hour in the airport and flying back again.
Be sure to arrange for a new passport before you leave.
Thanks everyone who replied to my question. I have decided heed the advice you have given and head to passport office.
Thanks again.
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?I'm a bit late chiming in here (traveling around Sri Lanka). I had this happen to me once, 3 or 4 years ago. My passport had just under 6 months the before renewal date.
I bought the ticket online, provided passport number, no problem. I checked in at the EVA counter, checked luggage, they checked passport, no problem.
I got to the gate, boarding process started, they check passports as you're boarding. The rent-a-cop lady looked at it and pulled me out of line. She said my passport was expiring soon. Oh, shit. My heart sank. I protested that I'd passed all other checks and nobody had said a word. She then handed me over to one of the EVA agents, who just said don't worry, they will send a message to Thailand asking if it's OK for me to come. I waited by the check-in desk for 5 to 10 minutes (it seemed like an hour) as one of the agents typed into the computer and talked on the phone. Then a message came in, she handed me my passport, and they let me board.
Once in Thailand I breezed through passport control with no problems and heard nothing about it again.
Needless to say I renewed it as soon as I returned. But, apparently having a passport due to expire isn't an automatic denial of entry.
I would not want to travel to anywhere with only 6 months or less remaining until your passport expires. Almost every country I can recall visiting in the last several years has this 6 month policy in place. If you made it through so far, then count your lucky stars and get thee to your country embassy to renew.
I'm a bit late chiming in here (traveling around Sri Lanka). I had this happen to me once, 3 or 4 years ago. My passport had just under 6 months the before renewal date.
I bought the ticket online, provided passport number, no problem. I checked in at the EVA counter, checked luggage, they checked passport, no problem.
I got to the gate, boarding process started, they check passports as you're boarding. The rent-a-cop lady looked at it and pulled me out of line. She said my passport was expiring soon. Oh, shit. My heart sank. I protested that I'd passed all other checks and nobody had said a word. She then handed me over to one of the EVA agents, who just said don't worry, they will send a message to Thailand asking if it's OK for me to come. I waited by the check-in desk for 5 to 10 minutes (it seemed like an hour) as one of the agents typed into the computer and talked on the phone. Then a message came in, she handed me my passport, and they let me board.
Once in Thailand I breezed through passport control with no problems and heard nothing about it again.
Needless to say I renewed it as soon as I returned. But, apparently having a passport due to expire isn't an automatic denial of entry.
AussieDoug
04-17-15, 11:29
Has anyone encountered any issues / hassles at Suwarnabhoomi airport because their passport was due to expire in less than 6 months?
Mine has 5 months left so wondering how strictly will they implement this rule. In some countries there have been occasional case of fascism.
Anyone?Thailand is one of the few countries that lets you in with less than 6 months on your passport so long as you have a return ticket. Why thay do this I do not know, but it does create problems which they seem to not care about. The idea of the rule is that you will have time to get back to your country of origin before your passport expires, you can go to your own country with just a few days left on it. Problem is that some countries do not issue passports abroard, they insist you go back to your home country to get one, and that is why so many hang about Suk Soi 3 etc, their passport has expired and they cannot get another. This is usually not a problem with first world countries, and mainly affects the dark continent.
Good that you were successfull. I find it a bit tiring since especially around Sukhmuvit area you have a lot of ladyboys using it. Some advertise as such some unfortunately don't. Others quite plain / chubby looking ladies offered their services for over the market rate. Guess its really hit or miss.
Have used this on this trip, anyone who says ladies are not trolling on here have not even tried. My experience after the initial greeting. By about the 3rd reply is where your room LOL.
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Good that you were successfull. I find it a bit tiring since especially around Sukhmuvit area you have a lot of ladyboys using it. Some advertise as such some unfortunately don't. Others quite plain / chubby looking ladies offered their services for over the market rate. Guess its really hit or miss.I actually used this in pattaya but the experience is very similar. Some of the LB's post directly in their profile. I have also had to ask once the chat started of their origin. As same as I meet them in person. A polite no thank you.
Mtg.
At the 4:10 minute mark on this video, I had a good laugh as the Alpine stereo dancers at the recent 2015 Bangkok Motor Show busted out their freestyle dance moves. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLvjPmuP64
At the 4:10 minute mark on this video, I had a good laugh as the Alpine stereo dancers at the recent 2015 Bangkok Motor Show busted out their freestyle dance moves. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLvjPmuP64Can't watch the video since it is private.
Starting to get excited. Will be headed to the LOS in 2-1/2 days from LAX for my first trip to SE Asia to celebrate a divorce a few years back and a 60th BD last month. I will have just over 3 weeks to (probably) share between Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket.
My first stop will be in BKK for a few days where I will hook up with a mature woman (39) I met via OK Cupid nearly 2 years ago. She is a real sweet heart, not in the business, college graduate, relatively attractive, and quite sexually deprived. We have grown pretty close during this time.
Next, I will probably head to Phuket. I have dreamed of flying to James Bond Island, and being a pilot, it appears I may be able to rent a plane in Phuket and fulfill a dream. Also, I am not a party animal, so Phuket should help prepare me for the craziness of Pattaya, which I will visit next. (My friend does not know this, and I sort of feel like a fink).
I have met a few other middle aged woman (35) on OK Cupid and there are 2 to 3 more I could see in BKK, though I am not expecting sex from any of them. All of them hate Thai men, and they hate men who want sex it seems! But the shyest of girls, I suppose, can become tigers if they are with a man who is friendly and seems to care. I do care about them and consider them friends, even though I would not mind more. One is especially attractive, but I don't know how things might go. Anyway, after Pattaya and Phuket, I plan to return to Bangkok to see one or two of them and also get in some mongering. If the first girl was especially good, I might see her again. (She claims to be a virgin. And I actually believe her!
I may be spreading things a little thin by visiting 3 places, but I can average one week in each place, which doesn't seem too bad for a first visit. If I return, I can spend more time in the place, or places, I enjoy the most.
I have appreciated all the reports and the help I have received here, so I will return the help by keeping you all informed of my adventures, though I may not be able to say much until I say goodbye to my first friend and head to Phuket (though I might decide to head to Pattaya first. Who knows?
Later dudes!
Apple Court
04-26-15, 07:10
Starting to get excited. Will be headed to the LOS in 2-1/2 days from LAX for my first trip to SE Asia to celebrate a divorce a few years back and a 60th BD last month. I will have just over 3 weeks to (probably) share between Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket.
My first stop will be in BKK for a few days where I will hook up with a mature woman (39) I met via OK Cupid nearly 2 years ago. She is a real sweet heart, not in the business, college graduate, relatively attractive, and quite sexually deprived. We have grown pretty close during this time.
I think I'm similar to you. I went to Chiang Mai last Christmas, wanting to determine if it is a place I want to retire to. I lived in Bkk 25 years ago, speak some Thai, and had been to CM several times. I'm working / living in China for many years now, and have been divorced for 8 yrs. I had several "mature" women lined up from Thai Cupid, but in the end decided I could not mentally divide myself so easily. I just went with one, but she was clingy (nice, funny, college degree, good job, 39 yrs old, never married). I really didn't get much of a chance to really see if I could live in CM at this stage in my life (I decided I couldn't), as she wanted to be with me for the 11 days I was there (she had holidays at that time). We did have sex (she initiated) the first night, but I stayed away from it after that. I regret seeing her now, as she has hurt feelings, and I didn't really do what I wanted to do during the time I had. I would have advised you to leave Bkk til the end, and starting with Phuket or Pattaya. Hope you enjoy your trip, and achieve whatever goals you have for it.
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?I'd take a local's advice. It can take two hours if the traffic is bad. And your taxi driver does not know the short cuts. The taxi driver has no incentive to get there quickly as he will either have to dead head back into town or pend hours at yje airport waiting for fare. Use the train if you have to have to leave late.
I'd take a local's advice. It can take two hours if the traffic is bad. And your taxi driver does not know the short cuts. The taxi driver has no incentive to get there quickly as he will either have to dead head back into town or pend hours at yje airport waiting for fare. Use the train if you have to have to leave late.Thank you. I kind of thought it would take a while to get there. However, I have several big bags and have to use a taxi. If worse come to worse, I will just leave real early, like 11 am And kill time at the airport.
At the 4:10 minute mark on this video, I had a good laugh as the Alpine stereo dancers at the recent 2015 Bangkok Motor Show busted out their freestyle dance moves. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLvjPmuP64 This is a better link:
http://youtu.be/jA2m6god9a8
SirWilliam4
04-27-15, 23:19
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?Allow plenty of time. Could take up to two hours, or perhaps more. Traffic is tough at that time of day. If my luggage were light I'd take the BTS.
SW4.
Allow plenty of time. Could take up to two hours, or perhaps more. Traffic is tough at that time of day. If my luggage were light I'd take the BTS.
SW4.I never understood why men don't pack light? Do you have 20 pairs of shoes or something?
I always take BTS to get to downtown BKK. Totally worth the savings of time and money. I have one large luggage which rolls well.
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?Go early. If you take taxi leave 5 hours before departure. If you can use airport rail link (luggage?) then it is ok to leave later.
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?I never had a problem getting a cab at 4 pm or 4 M, get a bellboy at he hotel to get you one. They will even negotiate for you to take you by meter. Just leave about 3=4 hrs early.
Hi, still planning details of my trip, if I rent and use a scooter, do you know if the girls at walking street are willing to ride back with you for a short 2 to 3 km ride to your hotel?
Wolvenvacht
04-28-15, 05:59
This is a better link:
http://youtu.be/jA2m6god9a8Showing off the Alpine big "airbags". .
Mr Enternational
04-28-15, 06:00
Hi, still planning details of my trip, if I rent and use a scooter, do you know if the girls at walking street are willing to ride back with you for a short 2 to 3 km ride to your hotel?They would much prefer riding than walking. Some have their own bikes so they will follow you. Others will even drive yours for you while you ride on the back.
I never understood why men don't pack light? Do you have 20 pairs of shoes or something?
I always take BTS to get to downtown BKK. Totally worth the savings of time and money. I have one large luggage which rolls well.I appreciate all of you have taken the time to give me your comments on taking a cab to the airport at midday. To VIPHI, my luggage will include fishing gear for my barramundi expeditions I have planned for this trip.
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?The main issue with travelling from Suk 11 is getting to the airport expressway. Once on the expressway traffic is generally not too bad but there is always potential for the unexpected. I usually allow about 75 min and its usually less. You can cut that a little by getting a tuk tuk to Sukhumvit and crossing the road (if bags are manageable) I just walk across as traffic is usually slow. Then when you catch a taxi its less than 5 min and you are on the expressway. If you get tempted on the Suk 8 side there is also an escalator to the BTS which makes getting on the BTS a lot easier. Did it a few weeks ago only have about 6 steps.
The main issue with travelling from Suk 11 is getting to the airport expressway. Once on the expressway traffic is generally not too bad but there is always potential for the unexpected. I usually allow about 75 min and its usually less. You can cut that a little by getting a tuk tuk to Sukhumvit and crossing the road (if bags are manageable) I just walk across as traffic is usually slow. Then when you catch a taxi its less than 5 min and you are on the expressway. If you get tempted on the Suk 8 side there is also an escalator to the BTS which makes getting on the BTS a lot easier. Did it a few weeks ago only have about 6 steps.Huh? Sukh Soi 11. Leave in the other direction further into the Soi, turn left, right and left again and end up in Soi 3 with a right turn into Sukhumvit Rd. That is the quickest way by taxi to get on the Expressway. Know your back roads!
I am having good connections with girls on Thai cupid, my weekend looks good, my Chiang Mai stay also looks good, pattaya I am not looking for dates, all of them wants to go with me with my photo shot, helping me with my travelling, some knows that they will stay overnight with me others no discussing on this (which is fine with me, plan be looks as good as plan A) . Will report (without going to much on details as all these girls are normal thai with jobs. My youngest is 31 and my oldest 35, my preferred age for sex experience and GFE for a guy who is 50.
Huh? Sukh Soi 11. Leave in the other direction further into the Soi, turn left, right and left again and end up in Soi 3 with a right turn into Sukhumvit Rd. That is the quickest way by taxi to get on the Expressway. Know your back roads!Thanks, I knew that. I remember one taxi driver pulling a fast one and went down the Soi, turned left to run the meter and almost caused me to miss my plane. He caught a lot of traffic that was stuck at 4 am for some reason. It took 30 minutes just to get back to Suk.
There's always been a passionate debate on this board about "tipping. " It mostly applies to tipping the girls for services provided. Some nationalities don't tip and other do. Those who do tip are often faulted for being too generously or too stingy so it's a damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
Anyway, I hadn't been in Thailand in nearly 5 years, but on my most recent trip, I noticed something that I hadn't seen before. A 10% service charge automatically added to restaurant bills and some hotel bills.
By restaurants, I mean the sit down ones with waitresses who serve you, the kind that you find in large shopping malls like Terminal 21 and MBK in Bangkok and the big mall in Pattaya.
I also noticed that Grand President Hotel in Bangkok added a "service charge" to my bill. I'm aware some hotel's will add a VAT or some other government tax, but this charge was separately itemized as a "service charge".
I wasn't upset since I've seen the automatic inclusion of a service charge by some restaurants in the USA, Europe, and South America (a steak house in Buenos Aires). In those cases, I just don't leave a tip but I always wonder if the business pockets the service charge instead of giving the money to the serving staff.
The service charge by the hotel was, however, a surprise.
Is this automatically including a service charge something new in Bangkok / Pattaya or was I simply more diligent at looking at my bills on this trip?That service charge is usually indicated with a "+ +" on their price listing. It means that there is a VAT charge and "service charge" added to the bill. I've found it in Fuji (Japanese fast food usually found in the malls) and it's commonly shown in rate quotes for more "upscale" rooms (like Hilton or Marriott).
So it is not "NEW" but only seen in the "Hi-so" places. Since I tend to "go native", I don't get charged that way.
I am having good connections with girls on Thai cupid, my weekend looks good, my Chiang Mai stay also looks good, pattaya I am not looking for dates, all of them wants to go with me with my photo shot, helping me with my travelling, some knows that they will stay overnight with me others no discussing on this (which is fine with me, plan be looks as good as plan A) . Will report (without going to much on details as all these girls are normal thai with jobs. My youngest is 31 and my oldest 35, my preferred age for sex experience and GFE for a guy who is 50.Thai cupid is worthless unless you BUY their "upgrade". I will not say ONE GOOD WORD ABOUT THE WORTHLESS CHEAPSKATE BASTARDS.
Try Thaifriendly.com for a better experience. Their "basic" account limits you to 1 message every 10 minutes. You get out of the 10 minutes between messages by buying their upgrade.
IF you get to talking to a girl and tell her to contact you on some email account you can bypass them entirely.
The only good thing to the thaifriendly upgraded account is the ability to contact the "upper 1%" who get the most messages.
I have a 4 pm Flight out on a Monday coming up. What is anyone's experience on grabbing a cab from Suk Soi 11 at that time of day?CAB?? At NOON? 5 5 5 5 5 5 5.
Find the closest skytrain or subway station and go to any of the stops that interchange with the airport link and take the link to the airport. A LOT FASTER and CHEAPER, too. Takes you right to the basement of the terminal.
Then just get up to the 4th floor for check in and you are good to go. Check one of the monitors to see what check in letter section is your flight.
The monitor displays based on departure time.
I am not interested in selling any dating site, all I was doing is reporting my experience. I will gladly not do so if my comments are not useful. Yes I did pay the premium, and yes I did use also thai friendly.
Thai cupid is worthless unless you BUY their "upgrade". I will not say ONE GOOD WORD ABOUT THE WORTHLESS CHEAPSKATE BASTARDS.
Try Thaifriendly.com for a better experience. Their "basic" account limits you to 1 message every 10 minutes. You get out of the 10 minutes between messages by buying their upgrade.
IF you get to talking to a girl and tell her to contact you on some email account you can bypass them entirely.
The only good thing to the thaifriendly upgraded account is the ability to contact the "upper 1%" who get the most messages.
Today looked at Bangkok Post page 2. Miss Grand beauty comp. Winners were indeed unexpectedly beautiful matching my own taste for a change. Waitress teased me and said they were lady boys. Fortunately my eyes and taste was not deceiving me and they were real beautiful girls.
There are so many non mongering topics in Bangkok Thread which is annoying.
I would encourage those with non-mongering posts to use this general thread even if Bangkok relevant.
This helps those not interested in non-mongering topics to avoid them easily.
Will all entertainment venues (oil, nuru, etc.), bars, movies, restaurants, and shopping centers be closed for this Buddhist holiday? Does anyone know what might be open and give a listing? Otherwise, I have to stock up on beer for that day. Thanks.
Find the closest skytrain or subway station and go to any of the stops that interchange with the airport link and take the link to the airport. A LOT FASTER and CHEAPER, too. Takes you right to the basement of the terminal.Not a great strategy if you have a lot of luggage as you can encounter multiple long stairways to traverse.
Not a great strategy if it is 37 degrees as you will be a hot sweaty mess in no time.
Not a great strategy if is raining as you will not be under cover the entire time.
I find an air conditioned taxi with the convenience of door to door service is all things considered the best way to go. Of course as always YMMV.
SL.
Coconut8888
05-17-15, 17:18
Thai Visa mention that there are many new night life activities in On Nut area. The only place I have experience is On Nut Outdoor Market!. Anybody.
Find / experience any?
Harry Dude
05-18-15, 20:10
Not a great strategy if you have a lot of luggage as you can encounter multiple long stairways to traverse.
Not a great strategy if it is 37 degrees as you will be a hot sweaty mess in no time.
Not a great strategy if is raining as you will not be under cover the entire time.
I find an air conditioned taxi with the convenience of door to door service is all things considered the best way to go. Of course as always YMMV.
SL.I totally agree with Sunlover2 on this one. It seems that Mr Dinghy prefers to talk in all capital letters when making a point. That's when you should stop listening.
I am in BKK about every other month. I often use the Airport Express train to go from BKK airport to Sukhumvit, especially when I arrive at 6 am in the morning and there is no real rush to get to the hotel. My hotel room might not be ready for check-in anyway. On the return journey I virtually always use a cab: (1) It is cheap. Make sure you go by meter and the fare will be less than 300 baht plus tolls. (2) You will be dry. In torrential Bangkok rain you can be soaked through in 5 seconds, vey uncomfortable when you are about to board a 12 hour flight. (3) Don't believe Dinghy. Taxi is faster than tuk-tuk + BTS + Airport Express going to the airport. Of course, if your hotel is right next to Makkasan or Phaya Thai then I would not hesitate to use the train.
I was reading interesting article, anyone come across the nipple gang? Basically these women will either roofie your drink or use Rohypnol on their nipples so when guy sucks on them they get knocked out and all their valuables stolen.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/245985/Thai-tarts-rob-British-tourists-in-sex-drug-scam
I was reading interesting article, anyone come across the nipple gang? Basically these women will either roofie your drink or use Rohypnol on their nipples so when guy sucks on them they get knocked out and all their valuables stolen.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/245985/Thai-tarts-rob-British-tourists-in-sex-drug-scamYes. It's called, in most circles, "Urban Legend. ".
If said girl really held the pill under her tongue it would dissolve and she would be the one knocked out. Liquid spread on a nipple will be absorbed through the skin. I reasonably large guy will need, what, 2 or 3 MG of the stuff to produce unconsciousness? You'd be hard pressed to get that much off of a nipple. And if the liquid was that strong the lady would also be affected.
All credible reports I've ever read, or heard about from the victim, involved spiked drinks. Yes, I'm saying this particular tabloid is a bit lacking in the credibility department. Note the distinct lack of specifics.
Wolvenvacht
06-01-15, 07:35
I was reading interesting article, anyone come across the nipple gang? Basically these women will either roofie your drink or use Rohypnol on their nipples so when guy sucks on them they get knocked out and all their valuables stolen.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/245985/Thai-tarts-rob-British-tourists-in-sex-drug-scamThis is a story that re-surfaces every so often and as with many of these stories it is pure "urban myth".
Spiking your drink is possible (in theory) but the blue color added to the tablets make it quite obvious there is something wrong with your drink. I found the following article that said " A recent study conducted by doctors in the UK found that none of the subjects reporting spiked drinks had any traces of flunitrazepam or other medications popularly believed to be associated with drug-assisted [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), such as GHB. However, flunitrazepam was prohibited for prescription under the NHS in 1992 (The National Health Service (General Medical Services). Rohypnol (1 mg) is available under private prescription. The study results, however, suggest that binge drinking is more commonly a factor in alleged drug-assisted [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) than pharmaceutical drugs.[Hope, Jenny (February 16, 2007). "Drug [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) myth exposed as study reveals binge drinking is to blame". Daily Mail (London).]"
Putting powdered tablets on her tits? Seems very very unlikely it can even work in theory.
Putting a tablet in her mouth and giving it when kissing? Come on guys, before she can do that she'll have already ingested a good part of the tablet through the mucuous membranes in her mouth and she'll be out herself.
Crocodilexp
06-03-15, 16:26
This is a story that re-surfaces every so often and as with many of these stories it is pure "urban myth".Maybe the breast story specifically is an urban myth, but drugging punters with pills in drink or food is very much real. I know people who have been through that, woke up 18 h later and a fair bit of money lighter.
Wolvenvacht
06-03-15, 22:17
Maybe the breast story specifically is an urban myth, but drugging punters with pills in drink or food is very much real. I know people who have been through that, woke up 18 h later and a fair bit of money lighter.And even that seems rare: most are due to overconsumption of excessive amounts of alcohol. Few if any verifiable stories of actual "spiking" have been found it seems.
Well, it seems that somebody believes Thailand is still worth visiting. If not for mongering, then at least for something!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/travel/mastercard-top-10-destination-cities-2015/index.html
Dasisextra
06-04-15, 02:17
Maybe the breast story specifically is an urban myth, but drugging punters with pills in drink or food is very much real. I know people who have been through that, woke up 18 h later and a fair bit of money lighter.Guys,
Call it urban myth, call it what ever you wish, but this does happen, I know, I am speaking from first hand experience.
I think I had one of the luckiest escapes ever, this happened about 5 years ago in Nana, can not remember the name of the bar, but if I had to make a bet I would say carousel. Anyway this is what happened, went in ordered a diet coke, my normal drink in these type of places due to the fact it is served in a can rather then an open glass, anyway sitting drinking my DC when this stunningly beautiful girl approaches me, I knew she was not a LB, but her looks were like nothing I had ever seen in Nana or Cowboy on my many visits during many years, we started chatting, getting touchy feely, all was going very well, I knew just by her look that I could spend the night if not longer with her, BUT she gave off a vibe that something was not right, I could not put my finger on it, but there was something, when the talk came around to me barfineing her, I thought quickly and told her I had to meet a friend to collect cash and would return in about one hour, I had decided that there was something I did not like and was no going to return, so told her that if another punter wanted her not to pass up on it for me in case I got delayed, why should she lose out because I have decided I did not want her, so I leave the club, it is still early, only 10.45 pm, first thoughts were to go to Cowboy as did not want her seeing me around Nana, by the time I walked to the entrance of Nana to where the taxis are, I started to feel tired, so decided to go back to hotel, rest for an hour and head out around midnight to find some late night fun, anyway back to hotel, lay down about 11.15 pm, and did not wake up till 2.15 pm the next afternoon, yes slept for a solid 15 hours, never done that in my life, that was not a hangover from a diet coke that was the result of whatever she had spiked the can with while distracting me with a kiss because she was convinced I was going to barfineing her. I honestly believe if I did not have that feeling about her I would of woken with out my wallet, cash, but more worrying is the possibility of finding out some body organ has been removed, that is not another urban myth, there have been many cases of that happening, my advice to all you guys is, if you get any kind of a feeling that something is wrong, leave it there are always more ladies either that night or the next. Stay safe and enjoy. I am heading back on July 1st.
Crocodilexp
06-05-15, 20:13
And even that seems rare: most are due to overconsumption of excessive amounts of alcohol. Few if any verifiable stories of actual "spiking" have been found it seems.I'm not in a position to do a survey on how common it is, but I have a close friend who had this happen to him. Non-drinker, speaks some Thai, expat of few years, in other words, unlikely victim. I know the story as I lent him a bit of cash until he could get his cards sorted (she took away both cash and cards, but fortunately left his passport). This was a pick-up from Khao San Road, not the usual haunts. It's foolish to assume a drugging can't happen to you.
Member #4351
06-05-15, 20:58
Putting a tablet in her mouth and giving it when kissing? Come on guys, before she can do that she'll have already ingested a good part of the tablet through the mucuous membranes in her mouth and she'll be out herself.Yes, happened to me in Las Vegas. To make a long story short, she also was knocked out. We both ended up collapsing on separate beds. Really a waste of her time since I had already lost all my money at the black jack tables. Anyway, the next day was a blur. I vaguely remember puking in one of the casino's large plant pots. A thoroughly unpleasant experience.
I'm not in a position to do a survey on how common it is, but I have a close friend who had this happen to him. Non-drinker, speaks some Thai, expat of few years, in other words, unlikely victim. I know the story as I lent him a bit of cash until he could get his cards sorted (she took away both cash and cards, but fortunately left his passport). This was a pick-up from Khao San Road, not the usual haunts. It's foolish to assume a drugging can't happen to you.I, too, have no idea how common it is, but there are plenty of very credible stories of girls drugging their clients and then robbing them. It does happen. There are no credible accounts of waking up in a bathtub full of ice, missing a kidney. :)
The moral of the story is *never* accept an opened beer or mixed drink from a complete stranger, especially one you've picked up off of the street.
And even that seems rare: most are due to overconsumption of excessive amounts of alcohol. Few if any verifiable stories of actual "spiking" have been found it seems.Here' s a verifiable story of spiked drinks:
Former NFL player Darren Sharper recently plead guilty or no contest in California, Arizona, Nevada, and Louisiana with spiking the drinks of a number of women with Ecstasy, Xanax, Valium, and Ambien to incapacity and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) them.
http://www.propublica.org/article/police-fail-stop-nfl-darren-sharper-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-spree?utm_campaign=comms&utm_source=sexton-social&utm_medium=email&utm_term=darren-sharper
Ecstasy or "ya E" is easily available in Thailand so remember what Darren Sharper recently plead guilty to doing.
Banana Boi
06-13-15, 12:50
Just a general question for those who visit both cities. Out of the 2 areas below, which would have more girls (excluding ladyboys) or would it be fairly close? Not comparing quality, service, price, etc. For this question, only pure numbers. I know there are tons of girls at both. Am I missing a major area in either city (purposely excluded Patpong)?
1. Walking Street, Beach Road, LK Metro, Soi 6, soi 7, soi 8.
2. Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Soi 11 discos, Soi Thaniya, and the massage places on Ratchadapidesek Road, Soi 24/1, Soi 33.
Member #4698
06-13-15, 14:44
Just a general question for those who visit both cities. Out of the 2 areas below, which would have more girls (excluding ladyboys) or would it be fairly close? Not comparing quality, service, price, etc. For this question, only pure numbers. I know there are tons of girls at both. Am I missing a major area in either city (purposely excluded Patpong)?
1. Walking Street, Beach Road, LK Metro, Soi 6, soi 7, soi 8.
2. Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Soi 11 discos, Soi Thaniya, and the massage places on Ratchadapidesek Road, Soi 24/1, Soi 33.Banana, I see you have done a fair amount of research. I think it is now time for you to pack your bags and get over here. I assure you LOS will blow your mind. Nothing you can read about here can adequately prepare your senses for the 1st time you hit Pattaya (Walking Street) or Sukhumvit. BKK and Pat each have comparative advantages over one another and they are not mutually exclusive. Walking Street and Cowboy are roughly set up the same way except that Walking Street is 20 x larger! BKK's main advantage over Pat is with massage parlors. BKK has many quality ones on Soi 24 and Ratchadapidesek. Pat has only a couple decent ones and most are shitty compared to BKK. There is no way to predict which destination you will like more ahead of time. I am predominately a BKKer, but many punters like Pat more. Up to you. For your cherry trip I suggest you spend an equal amount of time in both places and decide for yourself. 2 weeks or longer should be your time frame.
(And don't write of Patpong 2. It is coming back. Bada Bing is an excellent Go Go.)
Wolvenvacht
06-13-15, 19:17
Just a general question for those who visit both cities. Out of the 2 areas below, which would have more girls (excluding ladyboys) or would it be fairly close? Not comparing quality, service, price, etc. For this question, only pure numbers. I know there are tons of girls at both. Am I missing a major area in either city (purposely excluded Patpong)?
1. Walking Street, Beach Road, LK Metro, Soi 6, soi 7, soi 8.
2. Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Soi 11 discos, Soi Thaniya, and the massage places on Ratchadapidesek Road, Soi 24/1, Soi 33.Forget about numbers: one week in Bangkok or Pattaya is not enough to totally visit either Soi Cowboy or Soi 6.
I have visited Soi Cowboy so many times and every time I go there, I have to start my exploration all over again as new recruits arrive and veterans have left.
In one week time I may meet 5 or 6 girls and that is such a tiny fraction of what is available that the total number of girls is irrelevant.
I agree with Natty: just come down to Bangkok or Pattaya, experience it first hand and forget all you questions.
Forget about numbers: one week in Bangkok or Pattaya is not enough to totally visit either Soi Cowboy or Soi 6.
I have visited Soi Cowboy so many times and every time I go there, I have to start my exploration all over again as new recruits arrive and veterans have left.
In one week time I may meet 5 or 6 girls and that is such a tiny fraction of what is available that the total number of girls is irrelevant.
I agree with Natty: just come down to Bangkok or Pattaya, experience it first hand and forget all you questions.Good advice. Bangkok sex opportuities are vast. And not even confined to Sukhumvit and Rachad..... Go try it and you probably be able to report on experiences th't none of us have had. In over 40, yes 40, trips apart from my favourite haircut / manicaye / massage place, I have never used the same place / source of fun.
Banana Boi
06-13-15, 20:39
I agree with Natty: just come down to Bangkok or Pattaya, experience it first hand and forget all you questions.
I do apologize for the questions. It just keeps my interest up while I wait for my trip. I'm already booked. Unfortunately, for me to take a month off work I need to plan well over 6 months in advance. I've already set aside a second set of dates for Spring, 2016. lol
My trip is leaning towards much more time in Pattaya than BKK. I enjoy the party atmosphere and Pattaya seems to provide that more than BKK. There also seems to be a lot more places in Pattaya. Please correct me if I am wrong. I asked the question since if someone said BKK had way more girls I would need to readjust my hotel bookings.
I'm not sure I hobby the same as most guys. Where I hobby I can hit 30-40 oilies / soapies or 10 strip clubs in one night. In Germany, I can hit up to 6 FKK's in a day when most guys go to only 1.
Nothing you can read about here can adequately prepare your senses for the 1st time you hit Pattaya (Walking Street) or Sukhumvit.
Natty, I have heard that about Walking Street before. It does seem quite crazy. I did a ton of preparation before going the first time to Oase and Goldentime in Germany and all my reading could not have prepared me for the amazing beauty I saw. My main strip club has 300+ girls on weekend nights. That in itself is always quite a sight.
I assure you LOS will blow your mind. Nothing you can read about here can adequately prepare your senses for the 1st time you hit Pattaya (Walking Street) or Sukhumvit. I would return from my Thai trips and tell a young (24 yo) coworker about Thailand. He would nod his head, etc. Then, after he finally went with me, he declared, "Holy shit, now I see what you mean when you said, 'You have to go there' It's like being told about the Eiffel tower and actually being inside it (or talking about fucking vs. actual fucking). Anyway, you guys know.
Wolvenvacht
06-13-15, 23:06
I do apologize for the questions.No need to apologize. Asking questions is fine, provided at some time you put the answers to good use.
I'm not sure I hobby the same as most guys. Where I hobby I can hit 30-40 oilies / soapies or 10 strip clubs in one night. In Germany, I can hit up to 6 FKK's in a day when most guys go to only 1.
To each his own style, but you are coming to Thailand. This is not the place to rush from one establishment to another. For starters, it is far too hot and humid to rush and an Energizer-bunny attitude sits badly with most Thai. You will benefit much more of your trip if you take things easy and slowly.
Yeah, that's right, but not by a sexy Thai damsel but by spider? Well, I think it was a spider I did not see what bit me on the waistline at the time I remember looking down and seeing a small welt, the immediate thought came to mind that a spider was the culprit. Three months of me being parked on the sofa and bed ensued with a gaping hole in my gut which could not be stitched as the doctors told me the infection would return. I once got gonorrhea, that did my head in at the time but on reflection that was a cake walk compared to this experience. Talk on the forum is always centered on sexual diseases, as far as I'm concerned something far worse befell me.
So there you go gentlemen, I shall always check my bedding before climbing in with honey as you never know what else lies between the sheets. It just goes to show there are so many ways one can come to misfortune asides from the much mentioned sexual diseases. Take care out there.
Just a general question about mongering, specific to Thailand, that I'd like to ask as I am quite new to this (been there once but kind of just jumped into it, but planning to go back). I've seen a few posts mentioning "interview questions" that you ask a bar girl or FL before deciding to pick her. Could some of the senior members please elaborate and maybe share some of these questions that they use to discern whether or not they want to pick a certain girl, and perhaps any other things they talk about before choosing a girl.
Thanks!
Just a general question about mongering, specific to Thailand, that I'd like to ask as I am quite new to this (been there once but kind of just jumped into it, but planning to go back). I've seen a few posts mentioning "interview questions" that you ask a bar girl or FL before deciding to pick her. Could some of the senior members please elaborate and maybe share some of these questions that they use to discern whether or not they want to pick a certain girl, and perhaps any other things they talk about before choosing a girl.
Thanks!OK, here goes. After whatever amount of introduction, mild joking and fun stuff that fits the situation (go-go girl vs Free Lancer vs massage shop girl outside her shop, for instance. BTW, I rarely go into a happy ending massage shop to do the deed anymore. I pay the bar fine for a girl I meet outside or just inside the place and take her to my room), I will smile broadly and go into something like the brief exchange below. I should mention that I am only interested in three major sexual activities with the girls; eating her pussy, boom booming her, and getting a blowjob with a cum in mouth finish. I am not into anal sex or any other ass play, cumming on faces, cumming on boobs, cumming out an open window or paying for a handjob. So I don't screen for those activities. Also, I live in Bangkok, very close to both Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy, so I will almost always bring the girl back to my apartment instead of taking her to a nearby short time hotel. In my approach methods, that kind of matters.
1. You like me to pay bar for you?
- Yes, of course! Why not?
2. (a bit jokingly) But what we do in the room?
- haha. Anything you want. Up to you.
3. Up to me? That sounds great. I love "up to me" haha. You do good sa-moke?
- What?
Blowjob. You do good blowjob, finish good, cum in mouth everything, no condom?
- uh. Yeah, I can do for you.
4. Bonus question for some girls I have not seen naked on a go-go bar stage: You shave down there?
- Yes. I like that way.
For the most part, that is it. No more interview questions. Naturally, this also assumes I have been smitten by her to begin with. But I now know whether I want to take her or not. I don't ask any more questions about sex nor do I offer more information about what I want unless she brings up questions of her own regarding boom boom or other concerns. If her responses are notably less positive than the examples I gave above, I will probably just move on to another girl.
Here is why I ask those questions before making a decision. And it isn't because I want blowjobs so much. Of course, I love getting blow jobs. But the fact is I am quite partial to boom booming these girls and my boom boom-to-blowjob ratio is a nice 65%-to-35%, give or take 5% either way, that I am quite happy with, despite the fact that I do not ask any questions about doing boom boom during the interview unless she asks me about it directly. All I want to know at this early stage is what my ultimate bottom line, fall-back position is going to be with this girl if the boom boom conditions in the room do not pan out as I want and need them to pan out. Hence, the near exclusive focus on her willingness to deliver a real blowjob to a real blowjob finish.
I have found that to ask more specific questions about boom boom conditions and requirements in the bar in a first time encounter can be very misleading and unproductive. However, once we are in the room, once she has walked with me, gotten to know and love me, been charmed by my winning ways (hahaha), seen my living environment (modest, but always neat and clean for the ladies), seen me naked, now knows that I am neither filthy dirty, covered in open, oozing sores, nor big as a tall beer can in the willy department, her attitude about what she will or won't do with me will be quite different than anything she might blurt out during an initial meeting and interview in the bar. True, that could also apply to the blowjob question. But I like the idea that she knows she gave me a positive response to that option and does not feel pressured to do anything with regard to boom boom that we did not already discuss in the bar. In fact, we didn't discuss much about it at all in the bar. Any decision she makes on that count in the room will be because she chooses to do it far more than because she has somehow been forced to do it. Much better all around, IMO.
And, for my part, there are a multitude of reasons I might no longer be all that into boom booming her anyway after all the clothes are off, her private parts in all their outer and inner glory are known, unnoticed scars and bizarre piercings come into clearer view, her attitude and cooperation in the proceedings materializes, my interest either increases or wanes, etc. , etc. , etc.
So that is why, in the interview process, I generally only ask about her willingness to give a BBBJ with a CIM finish. I do it in order to establish an absolute minimum level of service I can expect IF the boom boom conditions I want and need are not agreeable to both of us. No big deal if they are not, because I happen to love BBBJ CIM! As it is, I still get plenty of great boom booms my way in the room using this approach. As I said, it is at a ratio of about 65% boom booms to 35% BBBJ CIM. I'm happy with it that way.
Member #4414
07-09-15, 04:06
I'm not in a position to do a survey on how common it is, but I have a close friend who had this happen to him. Non-drinker, speaks some Thai, expat of few years, in other words, unlikely victim. I know the story as I lent him a bit of cash until he could get his cards sorted (she took away both cash and cards, but fortunately left his passport). This was a pick-up from Khao San Road, not the usual haunts. It's foolish to assume a drugging can't happen to you.Quite some years ago I was in a cafe there (now gone, called Prakorbs) and found myself quietly observing a scenario on one of the other tables. It was a very 'fresh' looking newbie who had been 'adopted' by three Thais. After years of travel and encountering all sorts of scams such as the friendly local duo befriending' young single male tourists to lure them into basement clubs in Taksim, to the honey pot Fillipino flattery scams trying to lure similar onto off shore gambling scams in which your spectacular loss was 'arranged', in Hong Kong, something just was not right with this picture on the other table on Kao San Rd. Call it a sixth sense that develops over time, along with hearing the sort of things they were saying to him. My solution was ultimately to hand him a discrete note on the way out, for him to consider a few things, and that if I'd got it wring then I apologise. To this day I don't know transpired afterwards, and if I completely misread things then the worst it did was to introduce a few awkward moments on the table. At the time I was willing for that to happen, rather than a scenario where thus very young newbie some up on day two of his big trip with nothing left but his underwear.
Wolvenvacht
07-09-15, 07:32
Just a general question about mongering, specific to Thailand, that I'd like to ask as I am quite new to this (been there once but kind of just jumped into it, but planning to go back). I've seen a few posts mentioning "interview questions" that you ask a bar girl or FL before deciding to pick her. Could some of the senior members please elaborate and maybe share some of these questions that they use to discern whether or not they want to pick a certain girl, and perhaps any other things they talk about before choosing a girl.
Thanks!Brother EihTooms alredy gave you his take on this subject. Very enligthening, I must say.
The whole idea of the "interview" is - IMHO - to establish that the time you both spend together will not entirely be wasted.
The funny thing is that my questions are entirely different than those of Brother EihTooms.
To start with I must tell you that (1) I almost exclusively pick my girls from agogo clubs where the girls dance totally naked; such as in Suzie Wong; and (2) I have no special sexual wishes: covered boom-boom is a must of course but is never an issue and for the BJ department, I don't care whether it is bare or covered.
This both means that I rarely if ever get surprised when her clothes come off as I have already seen her in the buff and I never had a girl to live up to my minimal sexual requirements. No questions need to be asked to establish this.
So my interview is more to gauge her attitude: is she bubbly, speaks some decent English, does she like to cuddle, hug and kiss? I always go for LT, so the GFE aspect is important to me.
Therefore I do not have a fixed set of questions, it is more the whole "vibe" of the interview which decides it for me.
Perhaps the only really *pointed* question I ask is whether she likes her pussy licked? I'm a great fan of oral sex (both giving and taking). If she answers "yes" I probably have a winner on my hands. If she is doubtful, I'll tell her I will convince her of how good it is. If she is reluctant or makes a funny face, I'll probably think it over again and may look out for someone else.
Brother EihTooms alredy gave you his take on this subject. Very enligthening, I must say.
The whole idea of the "interview" is - IMHO - to establish that the time you both spend together will not entirely be wasted.
The funny thing is that my questions are entirely different than those of Brother EihTooms.
To start with I must tell you that (1) I almost exclusively pick my girls from agogo clubs where the girls dance totally naked; such as in Suzie Wong; and (2) I have no special sexual wishes: covered boom-boom is a must of course but is never an issue and for the BJ department, I don't care whether it is bare or covered.
This both means that I rarely if ever get surprised when her clothes come off as I have already seen her in the buff and I never had a girl to live up to my minimal sexual requirements. No questions need to be asked to establish this.
So my interview is more to gauge her attitude: is she bubbly, speaks some decent English, does she like to cuddle, hug and kiss? I always go for LT, so the GFE aspect is important to me.
Therefore I do not have a fixed set of questions, it is more the whole "vibe" of the interview which decides it for me.
Perhaps the only really *pointed* question I ask is whether she likes her pussy licked? I'm a great fan of oral sex (both giving and taking). If she answers "yes" I probably have a winner on my hands. If she is doubtful, I'll tell her I will convince her of how good it is. If she is reluctant or makes a funny face, I'll probably think it over again and may look out for someone else.Wolvenvacht,
I envy your ability to roll with ether a covered or uncovered BJ (I guess I am mostly thinking of BJ to Completion / BBBJ CIM). Truly. That would certainly increase my potential experiences, to include the girls who say in the bar that they only do covered BJs. But I just can't feel enough pleasure with a covered BJ, can only remember finishing with a covered BJ one time many years ago when I was in my early 20's. And even then I vowed not to endure it again. LOL.
I am totally with you on the "vibe" part. But I don't know of any interview questions that are helpful in that regard. Do you have some to suggest? For me, that part of it just sort of happens in the jokey, fun stage, before an interview question is even asked. Or it doesn't. And these days I don't scratch them off the list if they don't impress me that way immediately. Now I don't put too much stock in how they might come across right off the bat vs how they'll be once that bedroom door closes. I have been surprised both ways so often I no longer screen on that basis before deciding to pay a barfine. In fact, I will often see a major personality change, both good and bad, immediately after the barfine has been paid or the instant we walk out of the bar and onto the Soi.
Also, as you see in my post, like you, I am a big fan of DATY. I used to ask the question you ask and think your follow up comments to the lady are great! But the reason I stopped routinely asking that question is because there are so many girls who have apparently had horrible experiences with slobbering, drooling messes from guys in that regard, and many of them tensed up by my asking about it on the fear that such is my style as well. In some cases, I could even sense a change of heart on their part about going with me at all because of it. There must be some horrible slobbering, drooling DATY fiends out there! LOL. However, the slobbering, drooling mess is not my style. Of course a first time girl has no way of knowing that. Naturally, I will make the moves in that direction when we are alone. And, as you probably have experienced as well, it is the extremely rare lady who does not enjoy a good pussy eating by a man who really enjoys and likes to savor every second of it right to the shattering finish. Again and again and again.
That's when it is often more their idea than mine to covert the agreed upon Short Time into a Long Time. And the "I'll come to you again on my day off, you no pay barfine or Lady Drink, OK?" offer, right? 555.
Wolvenvacht and EihTooms, great stuff and thank you for taking the time to reply. Definitely helps me out and gives me a better idea of the kind of stuff to ask about before deciding on a girl.
Wolvenvacht
07-09-15, 19:36
I am totally with you on the "vibe" part. But I don't know of any interview questions that are helpful in that regard. Do you have some to suggest? For me, that part of it just sort of happens in the jokey, fun stage, before an interview question is even asked.I don't have any specific questions and indeed getting a "feel" of how she rolls, happens during the whole of the talk with her. Once I feel she is OK, I may ask her a few more pointed questions, but by that stage my mind is already almost made up. So indeed, it is not a matter of specific questions, but rather a "gut feeling" and my feeling has rarely if ever done me wrong. Maybe I'm just a lucky guy, or I'm blessed or have good karma, but the dreaded starfish or even worse "upsell" girl seem to have missed me. The only upsells I've had were conversions from ST into LT, and those I don't mind!
Also, as you see in my post, like you, I am a big fan of DATY. I used to ask the question you ask and think your follow up comments to the lady are great! But the reason I stopped routinely asking that question is because there are so many girls who have apparently had horrible experiences with slobbering, drooling messes from guys in that regard, and many of them tensed up by my asking about it on the fear that such is my style as well.Oh yes, I'm a big DATY fan. Of course, you have to ask the question in quite a subtle way. Many Thai girls, even those on The Game are sexually far less adventurous than one generally assumes. In their mind, bringing your head (the most important part of your body) close to their pussy, somehow doesn't really chime with their ingrained ideas of what is "proper".
Hey fellas,
First off, I appreciate all the info that is shared on this forum. It's great. I've booked a vacation for the last 3 weeks in December of this year to Thailand, flying out of BKK to end my trip a few days after the new year. I've RTFF in the Bangkok, Phuket and Koh Samui threads all the posts dating back a year but I have the following questions:
1) Since it is high season, would it be advised that I book my hotel lodging in advance? I don't want 5 star but don't want to stay in a hostel. I've read that hotels are pretty easy to get and you can usually get a place same day, but since its high season what are the chances I'll be shut out?
2) Most of the reports I've read I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) are from Caucasian mongers. I'm an american born Chinese but I can speak and understand Thai enough to get around. When I go into the high tourist monger areas will I stand out or be ignored? I only ask because I was in Shanghai not too long ago at Manhattan and Judy's bar (pickup bars) and most of the ladies were Vietnamese and most of the mongers were white. I was passed up by many of the girls and many of them didn't even make eye contact with me because I was Asian. I asked one of the ladies that I did pick up and she told me what I had suspected, that since I was Asian she didn't think I was a monger at that bar.
3) I'm probably going to spend a week each in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket and if any members want to meet up that would be great. I plan on trying many non-mongering activities and sometimes some company for those are fun such as diving and so forth.
4) How busy is high season and do the rates for girls go up? Even for the freelancers, gogos and massage girls?
Thanks in advance and I look forward to reporting my experience.
Moss.
Stay safe.
Hey fellas,
First off, I appreciate all the info that is shared on this forum. It's great. I've booked a vacation for the last 3 weeks in December of this year to Thailand, flying out of BKK to end my trip a few days after the new year. I've RTFF in the Bangkok, Phuket and Koh Samui threads all the posts dating back a year but I have the following questions:
1) Since it is high season, would it be advised that I book my hotel lodging in advance? I don't want 5 star but don't want to stay in a hostel. I've read that hotels are pretty easy to get and you can usually get a place same day, but since its high season what are the chances I'll be shut out?
2) Most of the reports I've read I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) are from Caucasian mongers. I'm an american born Chinese but I can speak and understand Thai enough to get around. When I go into the high tourist monger areas will I stand out or be ignored? I only ask because I was in Shanghai not too long ago at Manhattan and Judy's bar (pickup bars) and most of the ladies were Vietnamese and most of the mongers were white. I was passed up by many of the girls and many of them didn't even make eye contact with me because I was Asian. I asked one of the ladies that I did pick up and she told me what I had suspected, that since I was Asian she didn't think I was a monger at that bar.
3) I'm probably going to spend a week each in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket and if any members want to meet up that would be great. I plan on trying many non-mongering activities and sometimes some company for those are fun such as diving and so forth.
4) How busy is high season and do the rates for girls go up? Even for the freelancers, gogos and massage girls?
Thanks in advance and I look forward to reporting my experience.
Moss.
Stay safe.1. Yes book in advance. You can always look for another one and book it before you check out of the one you are in.
2. You will be fine. Just look at these girls with that gleam in your eyes.
3. Post it on Travel Announcements Only thread
4. Read the threads.
I'm an american born Chinese but I can speak and understand Thai enough to get around. When I go into the high tourist monger areas will I stand out or be ignored? I only ask because I was in Shanghai not too long ago at Manhattan and Judy's bar (pickup bars) and most of the ladies were Vietnamese and most of the mongers were white. I was passed up by many of the girls and many of them didn't even make eye contact with me because I was Asian. I asked one of the ladies that I did pick up and she told me what I had suspected, that since I was Asian she didn't think I was a monger at that bar.If you can speak Thai you have a huge advantage over mongers who do not. I am trying to learn Thai only for this reason.
Traveler1234
07-13-15, 20:54
I'm an american born Chinese but I can speak and understand Thai enough to get around.
First, most of the working girls will think you're japanese and try to charge more, LOL. Seriously speaking, LOS is chock of Asian mongers including yours truly. The fact you are semi-fluent in Thai will work in your favor. You'll have a blast, just RTFF and do some prep work.
The Thailand threads are chock full of info. There are a few guys who write exceptionally informative and entertaining field reports; you'll know who they are if you do your homework.
And become a paid subscriber, then you'll have access to PM function and can ask the experts specific questions off-line.
Reggie Bush
07-16-15, 23:55
Hi all,
First off I want to thank everyone for their posts that I have helped me in my trips. I don't post a lot here but have in the past, and while I haven't posted my report, it's mainly cause time passed to the extent that I wasn't sure if it would be helpful or up to date. But, that said, for those going to Eastern Europe, a few words of advice. If you haven't found what you're looking for, you're not looking hard enough. Keep your wits about you and you'll be safe and just be smart enough to avoid trouble. Lastly, when it comes to Eastern Europe, you're most likely getting a better deal than you can in the states, and if you aren't, you're thinking with the wrong head.
Now on to my question.
I've read the Thailand threads and have done a search but my specific questions don't seem to be answered. So here goes. I'm a scuba diver and a fan of the laid back, easy going attitude where things shouldn't have to be rushed in hour increments. I much prefer the LT rendezvous. Where in Thailand can one spend some time by the shore and scuba dive while enjoying some fun time in the evening or off days? I've checked out the kao tai thread and it wasn't very helpful in satisfying my curiosity on the evening end. Please keep in mind that I'm targeting good diving, not just some dunk in the water to say I did it.
I've heard that Thailand is the sort of place where one can find a partner to hangout and spend the day / evening or evening / day with for a relatively inexpensive sum? Is this true and is it possible to find in the beach areas?
Lastly, when doing these excursions (remember, I'm interested in beach / scuba diving / fun times) is an air bnb accommodation better or should one just pick a resort and either hope guests are allowed or sneak one in with a tip to the security guard?
Thank for all the help.
Hi all,
*snip* Where in Thailand can one spend some time by the shore and scuba dive while enjoying some fun time in the evening or off days? I've checked out the kao tai thread and it wasn't very helpful in satisfying my curiosity on the evening end. Please keep in mind that I'm targeting good diving, not just some dunk in the water to say I did it. *snip*Thank for all the help.Hi Reggie. If you are truly targeting good diving, you need to use Thai live-aboards, and that experience precludes nightlife at Phuket or wherever. I have a serious amount of diving history in a lot of different oceans, and I won't do the day trips in Thailand anymore. (Well, unless I'm really in need of a dive.) You can have one or the other, not both. TTG.
Lastly, when doing these excursions (remember, I'm interested in beach / scuba diving / fun times) is an air bnb accommodation better or should one just pick a resort and either hope guests are allowed or sneak one in with a tip to the security guard?
Thank for all the help.Having a guest (joiners) is a pretty common occurrence in Thailand and most hotels will be ok with it. Some properties have qualifiers for gratis joiners like only one at a time, or only Thai nationals. If you have any questions just email the hotel and ask about their policy.
SunLover.
I've read the Thailand threads and have done a search but my specific questions don't seem to be answered. So here goes. I'm a scuba diver and a fan of the laid back, easy going attitude where things shouldn't have to be rushed in hour increments. I much prefer the LT rendezvous. Where in Thailand can one spend some time by the shore and scuba dive while enjoying some fun time in the evening or off days? I've checked out the kao tai thread and it wasn't very helpful in satisfying my curiosity on the evening end. Please keep in mind that I'm targeting good diving, not just some dunk in the water to say I did it.
I've heard that Thailand is the sort of place where one can find a partner to hangout and spend the day / evening or evening / day with for a relatively inexpensive sum? Is this true and is it possible to find in the beach areas?
Lastly, when doing these excursions (remember, I'm interested in beach / scuba diving / fun times) is an air bnb accommodation better or should one just pick a resort and either hope guests are allowed or sneak one in with a tip to the security guard?
Thank for all the help.Well being a fan of a football team that resides in rural Indiana I am not sure I should help someone with the poster name of Reggie Bush.
I don't know much about diving per se, but just outside of Phuket there are homes on the shore you can rent that might have access to good diving. The great thing about Thailand, is that anything and everything is possible if you are creative and resourceful. I personally don't like Phuket much, but the surrounding areas are great. As far as finding a lady, you could a) get on the dating websites (E. G, www.thaicupid.com) and get to know in some in Phuket who would be happy to spend time with you if you are polite, etc. Finding ladies in Thailand to spend time with you when you arrive is very easy. B) you could just wander around Phuket and meet ladies, such as bargirls or MP girls, who would be happy to take time off and spend time with you if you are polite and treat them well; of c) Just hire women for the day out of escort agencies in Phuket (google). I would recommend a) then b) then c) if all else fails.
Mr Enternational
07-17-15, 15:21
Hi Reggie. If you are truly targeting good diving, you need to use Thai live-aboards, and that experience precludes nightlife at Phuket or wherever. I have a serious amount of diving history in a lot of different oceans, and I won't do the day trips in Thailand anymore. (Well, unless I'm really in need of a dive.) You can have one or the other, not both. TTG.I second that. I am a master scuba diver and have been living in Pattaya 5 years. I have been diving in Pattaya, Phuket, and Krabi. I wouldn't waste time on them. I'm am going to check out Koh Tao in September. I hear that may be better. But your best bet as Tim said is a live aboard. Frankly, I was in the Navy and do not want to be out for days on end just for diving. I like my diving in the day and my shore time at night. Like Tim also said, you have to chose between one or the other. I have regular chicks that I usually take with me when I go on diving trips. Unfortunately at the end of last year I broke up with my Thai girlfriend who was also a diver; and those are hard to come by.
MichaelSamuel
07-18-15, 03:31
I agree with what has been posted so far. I did a bunch of research a few years ago and looked recently again and the day diving options in thailand that also have nightlife are not very good. The day diving out of phuket is really out by the phi phi islands and is ok, but not great.
Liveaboard is definitely the way to go. I dove on the Andaman Queen a few years ago and really enjoyed it if you decide to go that route. I don't know about taking a girl with you as you are out of cell range most of the time so if she doesn't dive it's going to be pretty boring for her. I have a thai girl I have been seeing on each visit for a few years and it would be great to take her out on the boat, but I really think she would be stir crazy and not in the good way!
If you do decide to stay on shore then my research, and a friend's recommendation, came up with sea bees as the best option out of phuket for comfort and diving during the day.
Also I can confirm that most places around patong are GF, but many do charge a joiner fee so be sure to ask about that ahead of time.
As a avid diver myself I am always looking for options with "nightlife" and diving. Did puerto galera last year in the Philippines and had a great time. Good diving and nice set of bars and girls as well.
Hi all,
First off I want to thank everyone for their posts that I have helped me in my trips. I don't post a lot here but have in the past, and while I haven't posted my report, it's mainly cause time passed to the extent that I wasn't sure if it would be helpful or up to date. But, that said, for those going to Eastern Europe, a few words of advice. If you haven't found what you're looking for, you're not looking hard enough. Keep your wits about you and you'll be safe and just be smart enough to avoid trouble. Lastly, when it comes to Eastern Europe, you're most likely getting a better deal than you can in the states, and if you aren't, you're thinking with the wrong head.
Now on to my question.
I've read the Thailand threads and have done a search but my specific questions don't seem to be answered. So here goes. I'm a scuba diver and a fan of the laid back, easy going attitude where things shouldn't have to be rushed in hour increments. I much prefer the LT rendezvous. Where in Thailand can one spend some time by the shore and scuba dive while enjoying some fun time in the evening or off days? I've checked out the kao tai thread and it wasn't very helpful in satisfying my curiosity on the evening end. Please keep in mind that I'm targeting good diving, not just some dunk in the water to say I did it.
I've heard that Thailand is the sort of place where one can find a partner to hangout and spend the day / evening or evening / day with for a relatively inexpensive sum? Is this true and is it possible to find in the beach areas?
Lastly, when doing these excursions (remember, I'm interested in beach / scuba diving / fun times) is an air bnb accommodation better or should one just pick a resort and either hope guests are allowed or sneak one in with a tip to the security guard?
Thank for all the help.
Reggie Bush
07-19-15, 21:03
Thank you TTG, Mr. E, MSam, and J101, I appreciate the input each of provided.
That said, I've never done a live aboard, and I plan to do one at some point. I completely get the allure of spending a week on a boat with nothing but sailing and diving. But, the night fun activities, and the opportunity to spend a night / day or day / night with some companion on the off days (assuming it's affordable? Suggests that I'd have to do all my diving from an outfit on shore.
Leaving out good / safe / knowledgeable / and safe again dive operators from shore, what part (s) of Thailand would you recommend I plan for? If having good non-live aboard diving means staying on an island, is there an island where it's not too difficult to find some fun companionship. Preferably with a selection depending on my mood in the evening. I don't want to get stuck with someone just cause she's the only one around.
And since we're still talking about shore destination options, I'll ask again, airbnb? Any reason not to go with that? It seems there's plenty of airbnb options safe and near the water at less than 30 that seem nice and clean.
Thanks again.
MichaelSamuel
07-20-15, 01:22
The liveaboards out of phuket do shorter trips than a full week,4-5 nights, some maybe 3. Just FYI.
For thailand shore definitely Phuket. Has the 3rd largest scene for finding companionship after Bangkok and Pattaya.
Can't say about airBNB. But if you are going to be in Phuket you want to be close to Patong for the entertainment and since you would be bringing back different friends probably easier to have the hotel. An inexpensive but decent place is livingstons lodge. Not fancy but close to the action and cheep. Get a room with a window though. The windowless ones feel a bit too much like a cave for my taste.
Thank you TTG, Mr. E, MSam, and J101, I appreciate the input each of provided.
That said, I've never done a live aboard, and I plan to do one at some point. I completely get the allure of spending a week on a boat with nothing but sailing and diving. But, the night fun activities, and the opportunity to spend a night / day or day / night with some companion on the off days (assuming it's affordable? Suggests that I'd have to do all my diving from an outfit on shore.
Leaving out good / safe / knowledgeable / and safe again dive operators from shore, what part (s) of Thailand would you recommend I plan for? If having good non-live aboard diving means staying on an island, is there an island where it's not too difficult to find some fun companionship. Preferably with a selection depending on my mood in the evening. I don't want to get stuck with someone just cause she's the only one around.
And since we're still talking about shore destination options, I'll ask again, airbnb? Any reason not to go with that? It seems there's plenty of airbnb options safe and near the water at less than 30 that seem nice and clean.
Thanks again.
The USD hit 34.43 against the THB this morning and appears to have the momentum to continue the gains. It's the highest level since 2009! Lining up nicely as I am planning an October trip. Cross fingers that it continues.
While I don't follow the other currency crosses as closely is appears the THB have been weaker recently against other major currencies (GBP, EUR, AUD) but still stronger against multi-year historic levels.
Any comments or insights appreciated.
SunLover.
Fast Eddie 48
07-20-15, 20:12
The USD hit 34.43 against the THB this morning and appears to have the momentum to continue the gains. It's the highest level since 2009! Lining up nicely as I am planning an October trip. Cross fingers that it continues.
While I don't follow the other currency crosses as closely is appears the THB have been weaker recently against other major currencies (GBP, EUR, AUD) but still stronger against multi-year historic levels.
Any comments or insights appreciated.
SunLover.To SunLover.
You should be here back in 2000 when Bht drop all the way to 48 Bht to a dollar, I was buying gold from Chinatown back in the days when gold is cheap also just wish I have buy more, the usd have been strong the last few yr again most currency not just the BHT.
Fast eddie 48.
Thanks Eddie. Back at the turn of the century I was punting in the Netherlands and enjoying the last of the strong USD / Dutch guilder cross which slowly went to shite with the introduction of the euro. I remember in 2002 when a 100 guilder session became 50 euros; and while it became 10% more expensive for the customers, the ladies openly resented the fact that they were only getting '50' instead of '100' regardless of the intrinsic value.
Those must have been great times with exchange rates 50% stronger and prices (possibly) 50% cheaper. Not really expecting anything close to that these days just hoping to identify and understand some of the basic macro economic trends.
SL.
Charlie Shine
07-23-15, 13:33
I'm not in a position to do a survey on how common it is, but I have a close friend who had this happen to him. Non-drinker, speaks some Thai, expat of few years, in other words, unlikely victim. I know the story as I lent him a bit of cash until he could get his cards sorted (she took away both cash and cards, but fortunately left his passport). This was a pick-up from Khao San Road, not the usual haunts. It's foolish to assume a drugging can't happen to you.It happened to me several years ago a few days before I was supposed to leave Thailand for my next job. It wasn't a spiked drink it was in food and it wasn't a working girl it was a pair of women that befriended me at Chatuchak market on a Sunday afternoon.
These two scammers had been walking around beside me and just started up a conversation. I didn't think anything of it. One was mildly attractive, the other big and fat like a typical Thai aunty. I had no desire for anything sexual I was just being friendly considering I was leaving. They were about to have a late lunch at a restaurant beside the market and invited me along. After we ordered, one disappeared into the bathroom for a while. When the rice came back I noticed she mixed it up very well. I didn't think anything of it. She gave me a spoonful which I ate. Having lived in Asia sharing food is common so I didn't refuse. It was a fateful error!
Next thing I remember, I woke up in my apartment with my laptop, hard drive, watch, and money gone. They left my ATM card and my passport was at the embassy. Security footage from my apartment showed them leading me up the stairs. I looked really out of it. Drunk - with my eyes open. They told security I was drunk and they were helping me. Really helping themselves to my stuff.
So lads, it ain't just in drinks and it ain't just working girls.
Be vigilant regarding the kindness of Thai women.
Blanquiceleste
07-24-15, 11:10
I just caught wind of the draconian law the military government is passing on the sale & consumption of alcohol in Bangkok. Under the law no person shall sell alcohol beverages within 300 meters from the boundary line of tertiary education institution and vocational institution.
I think this is a ridiculous move. Imagine going to Hard Rock Cafe or to any bar in Cowboy and not be able to order a drink! Preposterous. I wonder where people get these shitty ideas from. Do they spare a thought to what might happen to the already fragile Thai economy? What do you call a bar that does not sell alcohol anyway?
Will this get extended to other destinations like Pattaya? Is this the beginning of the end for our beloved LOS.
Wolvenvacht
07-24-15, 18:50
I just caught wind of the draconian law the military government is passing on the sale & consumption of alcohol in Bangkok. Under the law no person shall sell alcohol beverages within 300 meters from the boundary line of tertiary education institution and vocational institution.If true, it gives a whole new meaning to the word "bar-fine".
Or perhaps they will, in typical Thainess, forbid schools to open within 300m of a pub.
Under the law no person shall sell alcohol beverages within 300 meters from the boundary line of tertiary education institution and vocational institution.Tertiary and vocational education? So universities and the like? That narrows it down quite a bit.
Seems to resemble a law in Holland that forbids coffeeshops (that sell soft drugs) within 350 meters of a school.
Or perhaps they will, in typical Thainess, forbid schools to open within 300m of a pub.Or they close existing schools that are within 300 mtr of a pub!
Banana Boi
07-25-15, 11:05
Are there many bars discussed on this forum that will be affected by this rule?
Wolvenvacht
07-25-15, 11:20
Are there many bars discussed on this forum that will be affected by this rule?There is a University at the end of Soi 23, but I think it is at least 500 m away (or even more) from Soi Cowboy.
Nana and the whole of lower Sukhumvit, including the side-sois, seem OK as well.
Wolvenvacht
07-25-15, 11:23
Or they close existing schools that are within 300 mtr of a pub!And then the schools will be asked to contribute to the local policemen's pension fund. 55555.
Better hurry guys!
http://www.weather.com/news/weather/video/bangkok-could-be-underwater-in-15-years
Is this the beginning of an exodus?
http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2015/07/30/foreigners-rush-out-of-indonesia-malaysia-and-thailand-korea-taiwan-next/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo
Is this the beginning of an exodus?
http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2015/07/30/foreigners-rush-out-of-indonesia-malaysia-and-thailand-korea-taiwan-next/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo30 days ago $1 bought 32 Baht, today the exchange rate hit 35 Baht and money will continue to leave until currencies stop falling against the US dollar.
Wolvenvacht
07-31-15, 19:38
Is this the beginning of an exodus?
http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2015/07/30/foreigners-rush-out-of-indonesia-malaysia-and-thailand-korea-taiwan-next/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahooIf there are two things we have learned from all the past financial crises, it is that the buyers and sellers on the stock market act without rhyme or reason and that financial analysts have no better track record than "Madame Soleil" in predicting the future.
If there are two things we have learned from all the past financial crises, it is that the buyers and sellers on the stock market act without rhyme or reason and that financial analysts have no better track record than "Madame Soleil" in predicting the future.The value of the Baht keeps slowly falling and financial analysts will tell you it will continue to slowly fall. Why? Because it has been falling (pretty simple analysis). And the Baht will keep falling until it stops falling (once again pretty simplistic logic). Currencies typically trade in a tight range or trade in a upward or downward trend. Now, the Baht is in a slow downward trend against the US dollar.
SirWilliam4
08-01-15, 03:22
The value of the Baht keeps slowly falling and financial analysts will tell you it will continue to slowly fall. Why? Because it has been falling (pretty simple analysis). And the Baht will keep falling until it stops falling (once again pretty simplistic logic). Currencies typically trade in a tight range or trade in a upward or downward trend. Now, the Baht is in a slow downward trend against the US dollar.Brilliant analysis. You must be a financial analysis wizard. The Baht keeps falling because it is falling. Egad! Why didn't I think of that?
Mr Enternational
08-01-15, 05:09
If there are two things we have learned from all the past financial crises, it is that the buyers and sellers on the stock market act without rhyme or reason and that financial analysts have no better track record than "Madame Soleil" in predicting the future.If someone could acurately predict what is going to happen on the currency market then everyone would be rich.
I'm an Asian-American male, Korean to be specific. Will I have any issues in Thailand? I ask this because it seems that most of the clientele is white.
I'm an Asian-American male, Korean to be specific. Will I have any issues in Thailand? I ask this because it seems that most of the clientele is white.I am not sure what you mean by "issues". IMHO the most favored clients and favored men of non-P4P Thai ladies are the Japanese. White guys are No. 2. You should be fine.
Crocodilexp
08-03-15, 22:39
I'm an Asian-American male, Korean to be specific. Will I have any issues in Thailand? I ask this because it seems that most of the clientele is white.Thai girls love Japanese and Koreans. If you're presentable and well-behaved, you might find yourself more popular with the girls than most white mongers. Less discrimination as well (no Farang surcharge in Rachada massage parlors).
Overall in Thailand it is NOT true that most of the clientele is white. Each group has their preferred venues, although most venues welcome everyone (with minor exceptions, like Soi Thaniya clubs catering to Japanese only).
Naturally, most clients are Thai (by far), but there are plenty of other Asians, predominantly (but not only) Japanese. East Asians generally venues like soapy massage parlors, the Thermae. While whites prefer agogo / beer bars.
I'm an Asian-American male, Korean to be specific. Will I have any issues in Thailand? I ask this because it seems that most of the clientele is white.
Thai girls love Japanese and Koreans. Yes, the girls love Japanese and Koreans. But Nick is Asian-American so unless he's able to hide that fact (by speaking Korean and pretending not to speak English very well) he will be treated as a farang I think. So some girls will love him a little bit less.
Nevertheless you can have a good time Nick, that should not be a problem.
I'm an Asian-American male, Korean to be specific. Will I have any issues in Thailand? I ask this because it seems that most of the clientele is white.I agree with Nick. I think Asian_american should be very popular. You will be favored and I have to put up with being lower down the priority order. Of course girls won't like it if you want to pay less than the real Koreans. I believe that Koreans could well be the most popular of all Asians. Coming from the US and Korean influence, it will be expected that you have very good manners, and Thai girls definitely like males with classy well mannered behavior.
In addition, at many Soapies you will not incur the Farang surcharge I believe so you get the girl cheaper than I do in those Soapy Massage places. It is possible that American accent could spoil chance of escaping the surcharge, I am not totally sure. T1234 could certainly clear up that issue, even if he does not have an American accent, I believe he would know.
I think Crocodile exaggerates a little. Asian customers may prefer Soapies (more so than Farangs) but there are still heaps of East Asians in the Oilies and bars.
There is a University at the end of Soi 23, but I think it is at least 500 m away (or even more) from Soi Cowboy.
Nana and the whole of lower Sukhumvit, including the side-sois, seem OK as well.The Khlong Saen Saep side of the SriNakharin University is less than 300 metres from La Belle Soapy (ex Mona Lisa). Easy to walk cross footbridge over the Khlong. Is that a problem? Alcoholic drinks are available inside naturally, as well as other illicit activities.
By normal roads in a taxi, it would be more than 300 metres. However by walking less than 300 metres.
Gents,
I'm coming to BKK in a few days. I'm staying at the Amari Watergate Bangkok in the Pratunam neighborhood. Is there any early morning, say 6 am - 9 am, activities around the hotel? Or other places in Shuk area?
Thanks a million in advance.
Gents,
I'm coming to BKK in a few days. I'm staying at the Amari Watergate Bangkok in the Pratunam neighborhood. Is there any early morning, say 6 am - 9 am, activities around the hotel? Or other places in Shuk area?
Thanks a million in advance.You can take a brisk walk to and around the Pratunam market and little India.
John Doe69
08-04-15, 20:53
I'm coming to BKK in a few days. I'm staying at the Amari Watergate Bangkok in the Pratunam neighborhood. Is there any early morning, say 6 am - 9 am, activities around the hotel?Is Amari considered guest friendly? If so, ask the bellboy when he brings your luggage to your room if he can arrange a massage in your room for you. On my first trip to Thailand, years ago I stayed in Manhattan Hotel. Got a cute little massage girl delivered within 30 minutes.
I believe that Koreans could well be the most popular of all AsiansThe feedback I got from a trusted regular at an oily is that Koreans, especially those living in Bangkok, were often rough with the girls, pounding them relentlessly for the full two hours. The American accent should be a plus in this case.
An interesting if non-Korean related tidbit: she told me one of her friends had her sillies redone 3 x after rupturing due to rough treatment, and that 80% of the girls at her parlor sported them. Please be nice to the girls!
Also was told about the same resident Koreans pulling runners after the deed from a Rainbow 4 regular (mamasan was trying to charge them upfront); it may slowly drift towards a situation similar to the Philippines, where Koreans were very welcome 20 years ago, much less so nowadays, as the dregs of Korean society take advantage of easy immigration laws (90 days visa-free in Thailand) to start a new life there.
I recall at some point when things were better between Japan and Korea, Japanese housewives were visiting Seoul to get an energetic lay from a local lad, as their perception was that they all had toned bodies due to compulsory military service. The current complaints about the large proportion of 'herbivore' men in Japan probably give some credence to this.
That said, modern Korean culture is very popular among Thai youth, and Korean tourists well-received. Like the Japanese, they have all the desired attributes of lighter skin, Asian-ness, a more advanced, homegrown economy, and less boorish behavior than the mainland Chinese. Plus, the in look seems to be the Korean starlet one, as witnessed by the ever lighter hair and pointier noses.
The feedback I got from a trusted regular at an oily is that Koreans, especially those living in Bangkok, were often rough with the girls, pounding them relentlessly for the full two hours. The American accent should be a plus in this case.
An interesting if non-Korean related tidbit: she told me one of her friends had her sillies redone 3 x after rupturing due to rough treatment, and that 80% of the girls at her parlor sported them. Please be nice to the girls!
Also was told about the same resident Koreans pulling runners after the deed from a Rainbow 4 regular (mamasan was trying to charge them upfront); it may slowly drift towards a situation similar to the Philippines, where Koreans were very welcome 20 years ago, much less so nowadays, as the dregs of Korean society take advantage of easy immigration laws (90 days visa-free in Thailand) to start a new life there.
I recall at some point when things were better between Japan and Korea, Japanese housewives were visiting Seoul to get an energetic lay from a local lad, as their perception was that they all had toned bodies due to compulsory military service. The current complaints about the large proportion of 'herbivore' men in Japan probably give some credence to this.
That said, modern Korean culture is very popular among Thai youth, and Korean tourists well-received. Like the Japanese, they have all the desired attributes of lighter skin, Asian-ness, a more advanced, homegrown economy, and less boorish behavior than the mainland Chinese. Plus, the in look seems to be the Korean starlet one, as witnessed by the ever lighter hair and pointier noses.Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm about as American as an Asian can be. I don't even speak Korean, so I won't try to pretend I'm not from America. I'm pretty excited about my upcoming inaugural trip. I land in BKK at 11 PM. Where should I go first?
... a avid diver myself I am always looking for options with "nightlife" and diving. (I) Did puerto galera last year in the Philippines and had a great time. Good diving and nice set of bars and girls as well.I'm also an experienced diver. What was the "right amount of time" for you in Puerto Galera? If you could have stayed as long as you wished? Is Big Apple for diving and staying OK from what you saw?
I'd also head up to Subic Bay as well, with a stop in Angeles City. From what I've read, the combo of diving and nightlife at P. G. Is probably as good as I'll find anywhere. I know that I prefer variety and won't want a 'cling on" while I'm there.
Wolvenvacht
08-06-15, 07:09
I'm pretty excited about my upcoming inaugural trip. I land in BKK at 11 PM. Where should I go first?To your hotel to get a good night's rest and be fit for the rest of your trip.
Then the next day, you can start easy with a massage (and some "happy ending") to loosen up your muscles. Walk around a bit to get a feel for the place, find a nice place for dinner and then explore the agogo clubs in Soi Cowboy or Nana to find a LT companion.
Hi guys, I've never posted anything on this forum previously though I have posted a lot in the european and Dubai forums.
Planning a trip to Thailand in the next couple of months and after 4 days in Bangkok I plan heading to one of the Thai Islands. Wend to Phuket a few years ago now. Can I ask any of the senior members of this forum to give me a quick heads up on the best 2 or 3 locations outside of BKK in Thailand for mongering? I appreciate that eveybody's tastes vary, but would be good to know if there are destinations to definitely avoid and others where it would be well worth visiting. Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm about as American as an Asian can be. I don't even speak Korean, so I won't try to pretend I'm not from America. I'm pretty excited about my upcoming inaugural trip. I land in BKK at 11 PM. Where should I go first?I'm also an Asian-American that will be in Bangkok at the same time. Send me a PM if you want a wing man for the trip.
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm about as American as an Asian can be. I don't even speak Korean, so I won't try to pretend I'm not from America. I'm pretty excited about my upcoming inaugural trip. I land in BKK at 11 PM. Where should I go first?First, whereabouts are you staying? How long to you plan to be in BKK? And what sorts of horizontal activities do you prefer? Some like BJ, others like to hang out with the girls, others like to watch the dancers, others like massage. What floats your boat? Give us a bit more info and we can give you some good pointers.
First, whereabouts are you staying? How long to you plan to be in BKK? And what sorts of horizontal activities do you prefer? Some like BJ, others like to hang out with the girls, others like to watch the dancers, others like massage. What floats your boat? Give us a bit more info and we can give you some good pointers.I'm still looking at hotels, but I plan to stay on Sukhumvit. I plan to be in BKK for a few weeks. As far as horizontal activities, I plan to try a little bit of everything as this will be my first time in Bangkok.
First, whereabouts are you staying? How long to you plan to be in BKK? And what sorts of horizontal activities do you prefer? Some like BJ, others like to hang out with the girls, others like to watch the dancers, others like massage. What floats your boat? Give us a bit more info and we can give you some good pointers.I like visiting Dr. BJs Salon. It's a hoot. The thing I like is a lot of those girls really know their trade.
I'm still looking at hotels, but I plan to stay on Sukhumvit. I plan to be in BKK for a few weeks. As far as horizontal activities, I plan to try a little bit of everything as this will be my first time in Bangkok.In that case, just start slowly. You don't have to do it all in two days. I'd start with some beer bars, then work into a couple of go-gos. Definitely will want to do a massage or two.
Frankly, I'd reconsider a few weeks in BKK. It's fun and interesting, and there are loads of interesting things to do and see. But it's a very crowded, polluted city. The lower Sukhumvit area, aka Farang Gulch, is a rather small area, relatively speaking. I know that I would get incredibly bored staying in that area for a few weeks. The first two would be a lot like living in Disneyland. But, objectively, if you've seen one go-go bar you've pretty much seen them all. Everybody has their favorite, but that's often because a certain girl works there, they like the manager, etc. Some have been able to differentiate themselves from the pack, others not so much. Bar beers are a great way to relax in an open-air setting, shoot the shit with the girls, and find some diamonds. But, again, they're much of a muchness. I'm absolutely not trying to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in your Cheerios. You'll have loads of fun, it's just that shuttling between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy for several weeks may get a bit dull, incredible as that may sound.
Consider taking some time to visit places outside of BKK. For hardcore sleaze Pattaya is the obvious choice. The Kanachanaburi area is very scenic. Sukhothai has some interesting ruins and a relaxed atmosphere. It may not be as easy as it used to be, but with a bit of work you should be able to find an accommodating lady to accompany you to these areas and show you around a bit. If the purpose of your trip is to see how many girls you can bang in a given number of days, then this approach won't work for you because you'll be tied up for a while with one lady. Spending your time in lower Suk would be better. However, for interesting experiences that are often relatively inaccessible to farang (especially noobs) then hanging out for a few days with somebody who knows the area and speaks the language can't be beat.
In that case, just start slowly. ............... It may not be as easy as it used to be, but with a bit of work you should be able to find an accommodating lady to accompany you to these areas and show you around a bit. If the purpose of your trip is to see how many girls you can bang in a given number of days, then this approach won't work for you because you'll be tied up for a while with one lady. Spending your time in lower Suk would be better. However, for interesting experiences that are often relatively inaccessible to farang (especially noobs) then hanging out for a few days with somebody who knows the area and speaks the language can't be beat.My thoughts exactly. I got bored with seeing 20+ statues of Buddha in a few days. They are nice but so many? I took a lady for a few days and she took me interesting places where you find hardly any foreign tourists, just locals. It was well worth it.
Banana Boi
08-08-15, 04:29
I'm still looking at hotels, but I plan to stay on Sukhumvit. I plan to be in BKK for a few weeks. As far as horizontal activities, I plan to try a little bit of everything as this will be my first time in Bangkok.Don't limit yourself to BKK when Pattaya is so close and seemingly has more girls.
Don't limit yourself to BKK when Pattaya is so close and seemingly has more girls.Its reported that streets of Pattaya are packed with ugly girls. I am sure there are hot girls too, but a lower percentage and more likely to be in a classy place. The advantage of Pattaya is a huge number of girls not far apart and prices may be cheaper than Bangkok.
However I see little need for Pattaya when superior girls know they could make better money in Bangkok. That then leaves the girls who just like Pattaya lifestyle more than Bangkok rat race.
Who needs more girls? I think its more about cheap girls and the lifestyle there.
I am sure there are hot girls too, but a lower percentage and more likely to be in a classy place.
.When's the last time you set foot in Pattaya to be passing along all of this "first hand" intel? Pattaya has a ton of hot girls, possibly even more than what's available in the main hobby area along Sukhumvit. I spent two weeks in Pattaya and two weeks in Bangkok last trip and from what I experienced it was easier to find high quality in Pattaya. For ten baht you can hop on a baht bus, when you spot a club that looks promising you can jump off and grab a beer and take a look around. And most gogo's in Pattaya have cheap draft beer which allows you to hop more bars. 65 baht for a draft vs 150 baht for a bottle in Bangkok. Plus many of the beer bars run happy hours or have cheaper prices than walking street. I can hit three times as many bars, look at three times as many girls as I can for the same amount of money drinking in Bangkok. The best part of traveling in the off season is being able to pick up and move if you don't like a certain area or hotel. If your a new visitor to Thailand i'd recommend visiting Bangkok first for a few days and then head down to Pattaya, 3 day in each city and then decide if you want to head back to Bangkok. Im betting most guys will stay in Pattaya.
When's the last time you set foot in Pattaya to be passing along all of this "first hand" intel? Pattaya has a ton of hot girls, possibly even more than what's available in the main hobby area along Sukhumvit. I am just going by what several other guys that like classy beauties are telling me. I have not been there recently. I don't know what you mean by "hot" girls. Perhaps you could provide some pics. For me a great body is not enough. Very young is also not enough. I need pretty faces as well. Most times when guys post pics of Pattaya girls, I have been underwhelmed. I do understand that Pattaya has a huge number of girls in a small area, and it stands to reason there must be some really special looking girls. I would have thought they would hang in a classy place and not on the street, most likely. Others tell me that Pattaya has a lot of rather average girls, but so does Bangkok if go to the wrong places. I believe I am extremely fussy, so only 2% of Bangkok working girls are looking really good to me. I don't even like many that others think are hot. Last two visits to Emannuelle Soapy, I could not find a girl I wanted to take. I even left Nataree empty handed. Saw one great girl but she seemed to be separated from the rest as though maybe booked already, although she was talking on the phone for a long time.
If you can find what you look for easily, that is great.
I am just going by what several other guys that like classy beauties are telling me. I have not been there recently. I don't know what you mean by "hot" girls. Perhaps you could provide some pics. For me a great body is not enough. Very young is also not enough. I need pretty faces as well. Here's some photo's for you to decide if Pattaya is worth a visit.
Banana Boi
08-11-15, 22:00
H looks like she has cuteness potential. I'd be all over her. Was this on your recent trip?
H looks like she has cuteness potential. I'd be all over her. Was this on your recent trip?Yep, last trip. Was too drunk to bar fine her the first time I ran into her late at night. Went back to the bar and she jumped in my lap. Wild little Laos girl.
Here's some photo's for you to decide if Pattaya is worth a visit.Nice pixs Breadman.
Blonde 4 works for me as I prefer my ladies on the skinnier side. She must have been quite a sight in those stiletto's!
SL.
Yesterday I tried to call out on my AIS 1-2-call phone and learned that my number was suspended even though I had plenty of time left on my SIMM card. I had to go to Tuk.com and visit the AIS TEL-wiz booth to fix the problem. They gave me a new SIMM card with the same number but I had to give them a copy of my passport so they can associate me with that number. Thai big brother is now watching. Are there no longer any anonymous cell phone options in Thailand?
Crocodilexp
08-14-15, 17:25
Are there no longer any anonymous cell phone options in Thailand?That "security" measure is pure theater. If you really need an anonymous SIM card, just give 100 baht to the hobo drinking beer in front of the 7-11 to register it under his name (True allows registration at 7-11). More realistically, go to the phone shop (a small private one, not a big-name corporate one), come up with a story about not having a passport, and ask them to register it for you for a small fee.
Mr Enternational
08-14-15, 19:20
Yesterday I tried to call out on my AIS 1-2-call phone and learned that my number was suspended even though I had plenty of time left on my SIMM card. I had to go to Tuk.com and visit the AIS TEL-wiz booth to fix the problem. They gave me a new SIMM card with the same number but I had to give them a copy of my passport so they can associate me with that number.It has been known for quite some time that phone numbers would have to be registered with an ID. I did mine back in February. The cutoff date was supposed to be July 31, but they extended it. I guess you missed the extention as well. Lucky that you could still keep the same number.
Traveler1234
08-14-15, 23:01
It has been known for quite some time.....The cutoff date was supposed to be July 31, but they extended it.The extension was for incoming calls only. Outgoing is suspended until you register. Widely publicized for months.
Wolvenvacht
08-15-15, 08:14
That "security" measure is pure theater. If you really need an anonymous SIM card, just give 100 baht to the hobo drinking beer in front of the 7-11 to register it under his name (True allows registration at 7-11). More realistically, go to the phone shop (a small private one, not a big-name corporate one), come up with a story about not having a passport, and ask them to register it for you for a small fee.Nothing to worry about. Do you eally think Thailand (or any other country for that matter) has the money, manpower and will to really check upon all messages and calls everyone is making?
It is a regular information overload and the best place to hide is in the crowd.
Hey fellow mongers,
I'm planning a trip later and blow job bars or getting blow jobs are my thing and as such, I need help on getting some no bullshit straight shooting (no pun intended) destination info.
I am one in search of no trouble and simply want to enjoy life's simple pleasures.
Which country would you recommend?
My dream is to travel to that country, indulge in the local talent and go home, without any trouble or issues with any locals or authority. I want to go as under the radar as possible and of course, be as safe as possible.
Which would you recommend?
Vietnam (HCMC) or Bangkok or Pattaya?
My selfish dream is to meet an epic hot skinny hoover which I can take back to the room and challenge her to take as many loads out of me in 1 day before calling it a night.
Looking at travelling for about 3 days.
Need advise! Please! Help!
Crocodilexp
08-15-15, 20:22
I'm planning a trip later and blow job bars or getting blow jobs are my thing.
Which country would you recommend? Vietnam (HCMC) or Bangkok or Pattaya?
Looking at travelling for about 3 days.
For blowjob bars specifically, Bangkok. In Patpong (Sala Daeng BTS station), there's the delightful Star of Light and sleazy Kangaroo Bar, in Sukhumvit area (Nana BTS station), there are slightly more classy places: 3-4 BJ venues near Soi 8, plus Dr. BJ on the other side. Easy to find, consistently good service, 700-800 baht (or 1000 for the Dr).
Pattaya sex scene is in general larger and cheaper than Bangkok, and some of the bars on Beach Road Soi 6 should do the BJ trick, plus many massage places offer extras. If your goal is full time non-stop mongering, go to Pattaya, but if you're after specialized BJ bars plus some non-mongering activities, I'd choose Bangkok instead.
HCMC Vietnam does have Hot Toc hair salons, some of which offer BJs. They're scattered around town and not easy to find or recognize. The sex scene is not foreigner friendly, plenty of hassle and frustration even for those who know their way around Vietnam and speak a few words of their awful language, let alone a hapless first-time traveler. Service is not nearly as good or consistent as in Thailand, and you will get ripped off by all and sundry if you're not street-smart and familiar with the local prices (sometimes even if you are). On the positive side, Vietnamese working girls are way better looking than in Thailand and you can get cheaper service if you are sharp and know what the locals pay and where they go. Vietnam is never relaxing nor a gentle introduction to mongering in Asia.
Crocodilexp
08-15-15, 20:33
Nothing to worry about. Do you eally think Thailand (or any other country for that matter) has the money, manpower and will to really check upon all messages and calls everyone is making?
It is a regular information overload and the best place to hide is in the crowd.You'd be surprised at what data mining technology can accomplish without any human supervision.
Of course, they won't monitor everyone in real time, but if you ever get in the sights of the govt or powerful interests (for whatever reason), they'll have all of the data stored and indexed, ready to dig up the dirt on anyone.
Thais might be too lazy to do it (they prefer a half-ass job and appearance over substance), but NSA can still vacuum it all, and likely knows about our Thai hooker adventures if they ever desire to look any of us up.
Wolvenvacht
08-16-15, 10:13
You'd be surprised at what data mining technology can accomplish without any human supervision.I'm a (very) old hand at IT and data processing, so it does not come as a surprise to me.
Of course, they won't monitor everyone in real time, but if you ever get in the sights of the govt or powerful interests (for whatever reason), they'll have all of the data stored and indexed, ready to dig up the dirt on anyone.Indeed, but it means you must first come into their sights. For the time being there will still be human intervention to ask the system to find your data. Unless they type "Crocodilexp" in the search field of the form, your data remains sleeping in the database.
Thais might be too lazy to do it (they prefer a half-ass job and appearance over substance), but NSA can still vacuum it all, and likely knows about our Thai hooker adventures if they ever desire to look any of us up.If one can believe the stories we read in the newspapers, the governments have already trouble doing something simple as linking the databases from different departments together, so compiling and combining the data from all the mobile telephone operators together and linking that to some other databases they may already have, might perhaps never even happen.
It will take an "Osama Bin Laden" case to get them to make a real effort.
Wolvenvacht
08-16-15, 10:21
My dream is to travel to that country, indulge in the local talent and go home, without any trouble or issues with any locals or authority. I want to go as under the radar as possible and of course, be as safe as possible.
Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand, so the authorities will not bother you here and the locals get a nice income out of it and therefore will not cause any trouble provided you are nice to them.
And really, in Thailand nobody cares about whether you stay under the radar or not.
Bangkok will be your best bet: either pick up a girl for LT in a club or bar or go straight to one of the many BJ-bars and negotiate an out-call.
I'm a (very) old hand at IT and data processing, so it does not come as a surprise to me.
Indeed, but it means you must first come into their sights. For the time being there will still be human intervention to ask the system to find your data. Unless they type "Crocodilexp" in the search field of the form, your data remains sleeping in the database.
If one can believe the stories we read in the newspapers, the governments have already trouble doing something simple as linking the databases from different departments together, so compiling and combining the data from all the mobile telephone operators together and linking that to some other databases they may already have, might perhaps never even happen.
It will take an "Osama Bin Laden" case to get them to make a real effort.Data retrieval and data mining from big data pools is almost standard enterprise software nowadays, and usually outsourced to multinational public service vendors with huge expertise. Getting the big data there may still be an issue in Thailand, but don't underestimate the precision of these data queries.
You still have to come into their sight, true, but that's where we fail, we usually don't care until we're suddenly into sight, for reasons that couldn't be predicted, eg sudden changes of a political climate! Go figure!
The combination of big data and unclear legal grounds, eg public services that are prone to corruption is a potential bombshell. Again, go figure.
Crocodilexp
08-16-15, 14:37
Unless they type "Crocodilexp" in the search field of the form, your data remains sleeping in the database.
They can correlate most of your aliases and data by stuff like IP address, browser fingerprint, 3rd party cookies and such. So, it's fair to assume if they ever type any of your identifies, that your real name and full past activity comes up. Further on, they can correlate it with your contacts (from Facebook, e-mails and phone contact). Sky is the limit, and we should assume we're completely naked with regards to any online activity. Maybe none of that is illegal now, but 20 years later?
It is impossible to predict where the future will take us and what sort of trouble we might eventually end up in.
.. it's fair to assume if they ever type any of your identifies, that your real name and full past activity comes up. Further on, they can correlate it with your contacts (from Facebook, e-mails and phone contact). Sky is the limit, and we should assume we're completely naked with regards to any online activity. Maybe none of that is illegal now, but 20 years later?
20 years or 2 years!
A hypothetical scenario: In the slipstream of a country's royal crisis (the Regent passed away) it's totalitarian leaders want to justify a "moral rising af the country" by targeting prostitution and narcotics.
A random overworked FL has bought ice on a regular basis, and is now connected to a case of drug dealing under investigation. A random farang, let's call him Mr. Wolfskin, has had several tel calls to the poor girl. The military police like urgent results, traces this number to Mr. Wolfskin, a foreigner with lots of calls from the mobile network's antennas close to places of "immoral activities" and ice dealers. Bingo.
Nothing illegal yet. Had it been a Western democracy. But in this thought up country the police takes the innocent faring into custody while "investigating a drug ring with foreign relations". Now, I don't want to be taken into custody in this thought up country, even for driving a bike with no headlights on!
20 years or 2 years!
--snip--!For the paranoids among us:
The only way to avoid that risk, is to buy a new sim card at the 7/11, using a fake ID.
Since everyone should carry a photocopy of his passport instead of the real thing anyway, it is a cinch to fabricate a fake copy, which will pass scrutiny at the 7/11.
Some care is required, however, because the machine readable numbers at the bottom will identify the original owner, even if the name is changed.
I suggest borrowing your 90 year old grandmother's passport and just changing the name (fake) and your picture (real). And don't forget the birthday!
Robert Long
08-16-15, 19:32
For the paranoids among us:
The only way to avoid that risk, is to buy a new sim card at the 7/11, using a fake ID.
Since everyone should carry a photocopy of his passport instead of the real thing anyway, it is a cinch to fabricate a fake copy, which will pass scrutiny at the 7/11.
Some care is required, however, because the machine readable numbers at the bottom will identify the original owner, even if the name is changed.
I suggest borrowing your 90 year old grandmother's passport and just changing the name (fake) and your picture (real). And don't forget the birthday!So your going to break the laws of a foreign country that you are visiting for what reason? So that your ID is not associated with a sim card? Whats the point? You just arrived and used your PP to enter, there are cameras everwhere, you need ID to check into a hotel. It's like everyone in the government knows you are there, but you will break their laws to hide your identity for a sim card.
Lets move on to more realistic subjects.
RL.
Since everyone should carry a photocopy of his passport instead of the real thing anywayAs a US Passport holder, I always bring my most recent expired passport with me whenever I travel overseas in case my most current one is lost or stolen. If I'm just wandering around, I carry my expired passport and leave my current one at my hotel.
I've been doing this since I read a book about a woman who bicycled from Mongolia through China to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). At every village she bicycled through, the military or police and every lodging clerk would ask for her passport. She always had her current passport tucked under layers of clothing with her emergency credit card / money so it was not easily accessible and a deterrent to pickpockets and robbers. To abide by any request for a passport, she always showed her expired passport and she was never challenged for her current one. The hole punched in her expired passport never raised any concerns.
Since then I've used my expired US Passport at military / police security check points in Ecuador and Mexico. I've also used it in Thailand at a currency exchange booth and to rent a wind surf board. In all these instances, I had no challenges to my expired passport.
I raised this same recommendation on the Colombia forum a few years ago and some guy admonished me for it. He said it was "illegal" to carry and present an expired passport when asked by an official. Perhaps that's the case in Colombia for a Colombian or the guy thought that this was for some nefarious act.
Like an expired driver's license, you can't drive with it, but you can still use it as identification. It's up to whomever is asking to accept it as valid identification. Likewise, you can't use an expired passport to travel, but the US government does consider it proof of your USA Citizenship. In fact, if your passport is ever lost or stolen while overseas, it expedites a replacement if you have your expired passport available.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/FAQs.html
I'm renewing my passport. Do I get the old one back?
Yes, we will return the old, cancelled passport to you. It may be sent separately from your new passport. It is a good idea to keep your old passport in a safe place as it is considered proof of your U.S. citizenship.
Of course, there are those who believe a photocopy of your passport is more than sufficient. It might be; but it will be at the discretion of whomever is asking. If you're a police officer, a soldier, a money exchanger, or a store clerk, if you're given the choice, would you prefer a photocopy or an expired passport (and you can't read English so you can't tell it's expired) as identification?
If you've got to carry your current passport with you, at least keep your expired one at your hotel.
I also carry my US Passport Card with me. I've never had to use it overseas so I don't know if it's acceptable identification.
Fooolishman
08-16-15, 21:18
Laundry: Highway Robbery.
The hotels and even some to the laundry shops charge a lot of money to do laundry per piece. I bought new shirts at one third over the amount they wanted to charge me instead of getting my laundry done through them.
What do you do for laundry in farangland?The is a baht laundry on Soi 4. If you walk away from Sukumvit on the Nana hotel side of the Soi, past Hillary bar about 30 meter, you will see several laundries, The second one is best. They also have 2 or 3 computers for 1 Bht per minute.
What about having a pic on the phone? Be much easier kinda like how some people have boarding pass on their phone to scan.
As a US Passport holder, I always bring my most recent expired passport with me whenever I travel overseas in case my most current one is lost or stolen. If I'm just wandering around, I carry my expired passport and leave my current one at my hotel.
I've been doing this since I read a book about a woman who bicycled from Mongolia through China to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). At every village she bicycled through, the military or police and every lodging clerk would ask for her passport. She always had her current passport tucked under layers of clothing with her emergency credit card / money so it was not easily accessible and a deterrent to pickpockets and robbers. To abide by any request for a passport, she always showed her expired passport and she was never challenged for her current one. The hole punched in her expired passport never raised any concerns.
Since then I've used my expired US Passport at military / police security check points in Ecuador and Mexico. I've also used it in Thailand at a currency exchange booth and to rent a wind surf board. In all these instances, I had no challenges to my expired passport.
I raised this same recommendation on the Colombia forum a few years ago and some guy admonished me for it. He said it was "illegal" to carry and present an expired passport when asked by an official. Perhaps that's the case in Colombia for a Colombian or the guy thought that this was for some nefarious act.
Like an expired driver's license, you can't drive with it, but you can still use it as identification. It's up to whomever is asking to accept it as valid identification. Likewise, you can't use an expired passport to travel, but the US government does consider it proof of your USA Citizenship. In fact, if your passport is ever lost or stolen while overseas, it expedites a replacement if you have your expired passport available.
Of course, there are those who believe a photocopy of your passport is more than sufficient. It might be; but it will be at the discretion of whomever is asking. If you're a police officer, a soldier, a money exchanger, or a store clerk, if you're given the choice, would you prefer a photocopy or an expired passport (and you can't read English so you can't tell it's expired) as identification?
If you've got to carry your current passport with you, at least keep your expired one at your hotel.
I also carry my US Passport Card with me. I've never had to use it overseas so I don't know if it's acceptable identification.
GoodEnough
08-17-15, 02:41
I also carry my US Passport Card with me. I've never had to use it overseas so I don't know if it's acceptable identification.I too always carry my Passport Card and it works fine as an official ID.
GE.
What about having a pic on the phone? Be much easier kinda like how some people have boarding pass on their phone to scan.I don't have a good scanner, but I did take a photo of my passport and e-mailed it to myself. That, however, is the absolute last option if I needed to replace a lost or stolen passport. I would never use it as primary identification.
I have never heard of anyone using or anyone accepting an image of a passport as identification. With photoshop and other imaging software, that's too easily forged.
I would also NEVER EVER handover an unlocked cellular phone to someone that I did not know and trust. When you scan your boarding pass at the airport, your phone never leaves your possession. With an image of your passport on your phone, law enforcement or whomever will ask you for your phone so that they can better examine the image. Once your unlocked phone leaves your possession, everything on it is accessible and fair game so you better not have anything incriminating on it. Remember, there is nothing so trivial and insignificant on your cell phone that can't be totally blown out of proportion or out of context by an overzealous cop or authority..
Mumbai Guy
08-17-15, 05:37
There are millions of tourists visiting the country every year. Most of them buy a local sim. Do you really think the government of any country including the USA has the money, manpower and reason to go into the details of each and every sim??
It is absolutely impossible to monitor each and every foreigner traveling in the country. And in any case you are going to use the sim for mongering purpose only. Unless you intend to do any illegal activities, I don't see any reason to hide your identity. And I feel that in today's world it is not possible to hide your true identity.
So why do it??
They can correlate most of your aliases and data by stuff like IP address, browser fingerprint, 3rd party cookies and such. So, it's fair to assume if they ever type any of your identifies, that your real name and full past activity comes up. Further on, they can correlate it with your contacts (from Facebook, e-mails and phone contact). Sky is the limit, and we should assume we're completely naked with regards to any online activity. Maybe none of that is illegal now, but 20 years later?
It is impossible to predict where the future will take us and what sort of trouble we might eventually end up in.
Wolvenvacht
08-17-15, 07:26
She always had her current passport tucked under layers of clothing with her emergency credit card / money so it was not easily accessible and a deterrent to pickpockets and robbers.Given the kind of activities us forum-members are likely to participate in, hiding something under layers of clothing probably isn't the best idea.
Fooolishman
08-18-15, 00:50
Are there any porn sites in Thailand not block? Tried to access Porn Hub recently but it was blocked.
Thanks,
FM
HCMC Vietnam does have Hot Toc hair salons, some of which offer BJs. They're scattered around town and not easy to find or recognize. The sex scene is not foreigner friendly, plenty of hassle and frustration even for those who know their way around Vietnam and speak a few words of their awful language, let alone a hapless first-time traveler. Service is not nearly as good or consistent as in Thailand, and you will get ripped off by all and sundry if you're not street-smart and familiar with the local prices (sometimes even if you are). On the positive side, Vietnamese working girls are way better looking than in Thailand and you can get cheaper service if you are sharp and know what the locals pay and where they go. Vietnam is never relaxing nor a gentle introduction to mongering in Asia.Very well said, sir! Yes, regardless of the commodity, if you don't know your prices the VN will screw you into the ground before you know what hit you. And, no doubt, the VN ladies are better looking overall, and FAR tighter than anybody I ever met in Thailand.
Member #4591
08-18-15, 16:13
All new to me. I've visited LOS 3 times in the last 2 years and on each occasion I bought a SIM card at the DTAC store in Suvarnabhumi Airport arrivals. I've wasn't asked for ID on any occasion. Only Baht.It is now mandatory for all pre paid sims to be registered or the vendor can't activate it for you. There are a few vendors who are registering sims under their ID cards and then selling them but now there is a limit being imposed per person. What's the big deal about showing your passport or other ID?
Traveler1234
08-18-15, 17:35
It is now mandatory for all pre paid sims to be registered or the vendor can't activate it for you.Yep, announced beginning of year: http://tech.thaivisa.com/sim-card-registration-starts-today/3627/.
Extension for one month, can only receive incoming calls.
Are there any porn sites in Thailand not block? Tried to access Porn Hub recently but it was blocked.
Thanks,
FMHey there,
You can use a free proxy website to get around the fact that a site is blocked in a country. The one that I use is https://hide.me/en/proxy , simply go there, enter the website you wish to visit and off you go!
Are there any porn sites in Thailand not block? Tried to access Porn Hub recently but it was blocked.
Thanks,
FMYour post begs the question. Why would you need pornhub, I site I adore, in BKK?
MichaelSamuel
08-19-15, 04:19
Haha, sand to the beach. Reminded me of this joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGLtv-EKtBM
I don't believe the site is blocked by the govt, but by specific internet services. However they have been cracking down so it's possible.
Your post begs the question. Why would you need pornhub, I site I adore, in BKK?
Fooolishman
08-21-15, 00:33
Haha, sand to the beach. Reminded me of this joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGLtv-EKtBM
I don't believe the site is blocked by the govt, but by specific internet services. However they have been cracking down so it's possible.I new I would get this question. First, at my age, I am probably the oldest member on this board, I need all the help I can get to "get it up". Secondly, If you have never watched.
Porn with your lady friend, then you do not know what you are missing. Hope this answers you question.
FM
Fooolishman
08-21-15, 17:43
I new I would get this question. First, at my age, I am probably the oldest member on this board, I need all the help I can get to "get it up". Secondly, If you have never watched.
Porn with your lady friend, then you do not know what you are missing. Hope this answers you question.
FMI meant to reply to Rjsss12.
Soldierb11
08-21-15, 23:39
I new I would get this question. First, at my age, I am probably the oldest member on this board, I need all the help I can get to "get it up". Secondly, If you have never watched.
Porn with your lady friend, then you do not know what you are missing. Hope this answers you question.
FMI'm in my low 40"s and sometimes fire up a little porn before heading out too. So don't sweat any negative comments.
And I concur watching some with the right girl can make things even better in the bedroom.
Fooolishman
08-22-15, 03:32
I'm in my low 40"s and sometimes fire up a little porn before heading out too. So don't sweat any negative comments.
And I concur watching some with the right girl can make things even better in the bedroom.Thanks Soldier. I appreciate your feedback.
FM
Traveler1234
08-27-15, 00:31
If you haven't registered yet, do so ASAP. Otherwise lose it for good end of October.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thailand/666503-pre-paid-sim-card-buy.html
Banana Boi
08-27-15, 01:33
If you haven't registered yet, do so ASAP. Otherwise lose it for good end of October.
I believe the deadline is October 1.
For US travelors who wonder why exchange booths don't like our 50 dollar bills.
http://www.wimp.com/fifty-dollar-bill-clever-forgery/
Member #4591
09-03-15, 08:51
FYI prostitution is not legal in Thailand, believe it or not.
Please, read the law before you post this kind of nonsense.This is just useless dribble and is taking up precious bandwidth that Jackson kindly provides for us. Here is the dam link to the Thailand criminal code in English. You two can debate till your hearts content in the general thread.
http://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-penal-code.html#356.
Member #4591
09-03-15, 08:55
When girls that work in soapies can fly business class then surely someone (and probably more than one!) has been over-paying. ;)I would beg to differ. How can you overpay in a soapie?? The prices are set. Oh yes and you shouldn't tip! If we tip, we will drive the prices up! A more plausible scenario is she has a foreign boyfriend who sends her money but she continues to work. I'm sick and tired of people talking about overpaying, tipping and safe sex. There is a general thread to talk about this crap and a safe sex thread if you want to play doctor. Do what you want guys, prices will always reflect supply and demand. I don't care what anyone says but this has been and will always be the bedrock principle behind pricing in every industry. I know some people will say that the girls raise prices in the offseason but what if none one partakes? It won't take that lady too long to lower her price when her rent is due and she can't pay or she needs to pay her tuition, or her deadbeat Thai husband or boyfriend gets in trouble. Here's a doozie for you Wolvenvacht. I have tipped 1,000 Baht in my last 5 visits to Nateree and Snowwhite. Why? Because I got dam good service. Multiple shots, true PSE experience, CIM, and so on. Deal with it! LOL.
This is just useless dribble and is taking up precious bandwidth that Jackson kindly provides for us. Here is the dam link to the Thailand criminal code in English. You two can debate till your hearts content in the general thread.
http://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-penal-code.html#356.The only mention of prostitution in the linked Thailand Penal Code is in Section 286:
Section 286 Any person, being over sixteen years of age, subsists on the earning of a prostitute, even it is some part of her incomes, shall be punished with imprisonment of seven to twenty years and fined of fourteen thousand to forty thousand Baht, or imprisonment for life.
This and the subsequent articles refer to "pimping" I. E. Living of prostitutes but not to prostitution itself. Maybe there is more further down, which I have not read.
I do agree that this is a meaningless discussion, especially since the police / LE seems to make their own laws.
Member #4591
09-03-15, 10:14
As expected when anyone happily pays whatever he feels isa price which, in his opinion, represnts value for money, out come the moaners and groaners saying that he has being over paying.
To each his own I say.
I fly business class on long haul. No doubt that enrages the cheap charies who scour the web for cut price cattle class fares.
I am happy to pay baht 5,000/ hour for a good lay with a willing lady. And treble that over-night. -with dinner, drinks and breakfast thrown in with taxi money.
AndI don't givea damn what others think.
Look at the substance of an OP's information, not the cost.Bumped this from the Bangkok reports. Yes I agree with your statement. Price police and 2 week millionaires or cheap locals are out in full force today. Everyone has their price and preference so please stop this useless banter.
Bumped this from the Bangkok reports. Yes I agree with your statement. Price police and 2 week millionaires or cheap locals are out in full force today. Everyone has their price and preference so please stop this useless banter.Funny man. The Bangkok thread has always been full of useless banter not related to finding women in Bangkok to have sex. At least that post appeared to have some relevance.
Only Admin can stop people filling the Vangkok thread with unrelated crap, when it occurs. If you don't like a discussion tou don't need to make such long replies of your own. You can just ignore or add guys to your ignore list.
I mostly ignore non mongering topics, but not always.
I do wish we had much stricter moderation in particular of the Bangkok thread, since that is a thread I like to use myself.
I would. Love to see a Bangkok Non-Mongering thread setup so Bangkok thread could stick to the point.
Member #4591
09-03-15, 16:23
Funny man. The Bangkok thread has always been full of useless banter not related to finding women in Bangkok to have sex. At least that post appeared to have some relevance.
Only Admin can stop people filling the Vangkok thread with unrelated crap, when it occurs. If you don't like a discussion tou don't need to make such long replies of your own. You can just ignore or add guys to your ignore list.
I mostly ignore non mongering topics, but not always.
I do wish we had much stricter moderation in particular of the Bangkok thread, since that is a thread I like to use myself.
I would. Love to see a Bangkok Non-Mongering thread setup so Bangkok thread could stick to the point.Actually we do. The general thread which is where we are at now, I bumped it over from the Bangkok thread, the safe sex thread, and the photo chit chat thread. Which post appeared to have relevance? The one talking about the soapie girl getting over paid? Or the other one talking about her car? Those were the posts I was referring to. If you noticed I agreed with the post I quoted funny man! Lol just kidding Syz! I still respect you of course with your wealth of experience.
Wolvenvacht
09-03-15, 18:29
I would beg to differ. How can you overpay in a soapie?? The prices are set. Oh yes and you shouldn't tip! If we tip, we will drive the prices up! A more plausible scenario is she has a foreign boyfriend who sends her money but she continues to work. I'm sick and tired of people talking about overpaying, tipping and safe sex. There is a general thread to talk about this crap and a safe sex thread if you want to play doctor. Do what you want guys, prices will always reflect supply and demand. I don't care what anyone says but this has been and will always be the bedrock principle behind pricing in every industry. I know some people will say that the girls raise prices in the offseason but what if none one partakes? It won't take that lady too long to lower her price when her rent is due and she can't pay or she needs to pay her tuition, or her deadbeat Thai husband or boyfriend gets in trouble. Here's a doozie for you Wolvenvacht. I have tipped 1,000 Baht in my last 5 visits to Nateree and Snowwhite. Why? Because I got dam good service. Multiple shots, true PSE experience, CIM, and so on. Deal with it! LOL.Really Bkkdog, you missed the point that I was just joking. I did put a smiley at the end of my message, but that was probably "too old school" for this new generation of tech-savvy youngsters.
Member #4591
09-03-15, 18:38
Really Bkkdog, you missed the point that I was just joking. I did put a smiley at the end of my message, but that was probably "too old school" for this new generation of tech-savvy youngsters.No worries mate. 😀.
Member #4591
09-03-15, 19:02
Not at all! She was driven there by her own chauffeur (who also doubles as her toyboy when her overpaying old farts once again fail to make her cum)!
Note: the above is written in jest, i.e. an utterance (as a jeer or quip) intended to be taken as mockery or humor, or else the self-appointed protectors of the seriousness of this forum, fall all over me again.I just don't see the point with making these comments in the sections of the forum which are for mongering reports. If you want to chit chat and make jokes then exchange your contact information via the PM system and if you want to join the price police I hear they are taking applications in one of the other sections. You never read this stuff in the Indonesian and Philipines ISG. Why so much in the Thailand section? Those guys post a lot of photos and never complain about the prices others pay and certainly don't criticize others safe sex practices.
I also just noticed to go along with the general thread, safe sex thread, and photo chit chat thread, there is also a Thailand lounge and chat thread. Why is it that Jackson needs to make all these sub threads deadicated to meaningless dribble? The answer is that many members feel the need to post crap. I often see Jackson post his famous message regarding "This forum is for the exchange of information regarding............ let's get back on topic"
So that's all.........
I have read upon arrival at BKK airport the line for taxis for going into Bangkok can be very long. One solution would be to go up 2 floors to the departure level and get a taxi who dropped a fare?
Has anyone tried this? Any problems or warnings to others who attempt this shortcut?
I have read upon arrival at BKK airport the line for taxis for going into Bangkok can be very long. One solution would be to go up 2 floors to the departure level and get a taxi who dropped a fare?
Has anyone tried this? Any problems or warnings to others who attempt this shortcut?Many of us do this all the time.
There are one way revolving gates to prevent you dragging your suitcases (on wheels) to the taxis. However you can just lift your suitcase over the fence. The more aggressive the taxi driver, the less I want to pick him.
Saves waiting in queue for taxi, and saves 50 baht airport fee. Take a meter ride unless you know what the prices should be. Try to know the alternative routes the taxi should take from Google Maps. However the driver will know more about traffic jams.
I am happy to pay highway tolls and go a longer way if it avoids a traffic jam. However I know all the routes. I love to arrive or depart from Thailand on a Sunday. Lower traffic. Very early morning or at night is good also.
I have read upon arrival at BKK airport the line for taxis for going into Bangkok can be very long. One solution would be to go up 2 floors to the departure level and get a taxi who dropped a fare?
Has anyone tried this? Any problems or warnings to others who attempt this shortcut?I have been there twice in the last 2 months and although the lines might appear long the taxis arrive frequently and in my experience the lines run through very rapidly.
In my opinion, the time and effort involved in going up 2 floors in the heat after a tiring flight and then not being sure what you will find at departure is better spent waiting patiently for your turn in the taxi line.
I have read upon arrival at BKK airport the line for taxis for going into Bangkok can be very long. One solution would be to go up 2 floors to the departure level and get a taxi who dropped a fare?
Has anyone tried this? Any problems or warnings to others who attempt this shortcut?Yes, it's easily done. In my experience, and I regret to say it has been a couple years ago (gawd I'm needing to get back to LOS in a bad way), though, you are likely to find all manner of drivers besides the licensed taxis. I did negotiate a market rate for Pattaya at the time (and this was a fairly late hour, after the Emirates flight from HKG and a laggard baggage delivery) from an unmarked luxury car (not perhaps the wisest move). I did worry when the driver left the highway and stopped over at another location, where another car eventually deposited me in Patts. Then again, I've dealt with dodgy drivers in regular cabs, and some from the taxi stands you'll find all over Pattaya.
I'll never forget one idiot driver who somehow managed to get lost from Pattaya to the main airport, and landed us on a dirt side road. At this point I began yelling at the bastard, expecting that I'd be robbed but letting him know that I wouldn't be a mark that would go down easily. He did eventually get the vehicle back on the highway, but in short order started making a goofy "tchick tchick tchick" sound or somesuch. I was cursing him (figuring that he'd at least figure the context, if not the literal meaning which would have most likely resulted in my ejection or worse -- again, not wise in retrospect). He persisted with the "tchick tchick" nonsense, which after he pointed to his crotch, I finally realized that he needed to do a No. 1. As I was at risk of missing my flight by that point I began screaming "No no no no no. You will soil your pants before you stop this car, you [expletive]. He seemed to at least catch the drift and drove on to the terminal. And that one was the "legitimate" ride.
[Ah, these goofy-ass CODE WORD violations for urination. Sigh]
I have been there twice in the last 2 months and although the lines might appear long the taxis arrive frequently and in my experience the lines run through very rapidly.
In my opinion, the time and effort involved in going up 2 floors in the heat after a tiring flight and then not being sure what you will find at departure is better spent waiting patiently for your turn in the taxi line.Can't we pre book taxi cabs from airport to BKK city to our hotel saving time and eliminating the uncertainty. Some reputed cabs like Uber or something? Which one in popular in BKK?
Can't we pre book taxi cabs from airport to BKK city to our hotel saving time and eliminating the uncertainty. Some reputed cabs like Uber or something? Which one in popular in BKK?You can pre-book a car service (google AOT for an example) but IMO it is really not necessary unless you have a lot of luggage or are in a large group. The time saved under normal circumstances will be quite minimal.
Just go downstairs to the taxi queue. Have a printout of your destination and show it to the dispatcher, and they will communicate it to the taxi driver. When you are in the taxi ask the driver to start the meter. Tell them that taking the highway is ok. Have enough baht for the trip lower Suk it should be something like 300 be meter + 75 be tolls + 50 be airport fee. The drive will usually ask you for the toll money as you pass through them. Give the driver a small tip at the end of the trip.
Yes; you can go upstairs to the arrivals level and jump the barrier and save a wee bit of time and money, but IMO not worth it unless you do it all the time and know what you are doing.
SL.
Just go downstairs to the taxi queue. Have a printout of your destination and show it to the dispatcher, and they will communicate it to the taxi driver. Have enough baht for the trip lower Suk it should be something like 300 - 400 by meter + 75 thb tolls + 50 be airport fee. The drive will usually ask you for the toll money as you pass through them. Give the driver a small tip at the end of the trip.
When did you last go through Bkk Suvanabumi SL?
They now have a machine at the dispatch point that sends you to a numbered taxi bay.
You line up; push a button on the machine; it spits out a ticket that says "Bay X" and you walk across to that clearly numbered bay to the cabbie who is waiting for you.
All your other comments are spot on (Trip to Sukhumvit Soi 4 should be something like 300 - 400 thb by meter + 75 thb tolls + 50 thb airport fee. The drive will usually ask you for the toll money as you pass through them. Give him a small tip at the end of the trip).
I would beg to differ. How can you overpay in a soapie?? The prices are set. Oh yes and you shouldn't tip! If we tip, we will drive the prices up! A more plausible scenario is she has a foreign boyfriend who sends her money but she continues to work. I'm sick and tired of people talking about overpaying, tipping and safe sex. There is a general thread to talk about this crap and a safe sex thread if you want to play doctor. Do what you want guys, prices will always reflect supply and demand. I don't care what anyone says but this has been and will always be the bedrock principle behind pricing in every industry. I know some people will say that the girls raise prices in the offseason but what if none one partakes? It won't take that lady too long to lower her price when her rent is due and she can't pay or she needs to pay her tuition, or her deadbeat Thai husband or boyfriend gets in trouble. Here's a doozie for you Wolvenvacht. I have tipped 1,000 Baht in my last 5 visits to Nateree and Snowwhite. Why? Because I got dam good service. Multiple shots, true PSE experience, CIM, and so on. Deal with it! LOL.I agree with you about paying / tipping whatever amount one wants not overriding the far more critical principle of supply and demand in this regard. Personally, I have not observed that there is one bit of difference in what a Thai girl will gladly accept from me today vs what some other guy paid her yesterday for the same level of service. Money goes through these girls' hands and into their boyfriend's pocket, their dad's liquor supply or their baby's supposedly depleted "milk" inventory (which generally means one big food and cocktail party for her and her friends) faster than water through a sieve. So what if Joe Sony paid her 5,000 baht for a 2,000 baht job yesterday? I guarantee you she will be just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht today as if he had only paid her 1000 baht.
Far more damaging to the state of the industry than the supposedly overpaying customer is the low demand customer. And I have definitely noticed a downside for me (the next customer) when a girl has been gifted with a series of low demand customers before me. I'm talking about guys who think they've gotten a blowjob, paid for it accordingly, when they've only gotten a handjob with a little oral foreplay thrown in. Or the guys who pay a girl to just sit with them at a disco and drink for three hours then collapse in their room never requiring the girl to do anything. Or the guys who accept one lame excuse after another for why the girl isn't up, interested and ready to provide a decent and satisfying time for her customer. Yet still pay her something significant without balking.
There is no learning curve to teach a girl how to get the overpaying customer into her trap. The chump who pays 5,000 baht for what anyone and everyone else can get from the same girl for 2,000 baht either walks into the shop or he doesn't. She either sits next to such a rube or she doesn't. But the learning curve for teaching a girl how to make a face when called upon to do something Thai girls did without hesitation 20 years ago, or what to give as an excuse for why they won't do this or that, are in a big rush to finish and go, or why they aren't even going to try to do a job well exists. It is taught to them by every low demand customer who goes along with it and pays anyway. I am not immune to falling for those lame excuses and letting it slide either. Thankfully, it is a rarer and rarer occurrence these past few years. But every time I do, I know I am doing far more damage to the industry, to other customers and, frankly, to myself in the long run than when I choose to "overpay" a really good service girl with an extra 1000 baht or so tip.
Thank you guys for the informative answers about the taxis at BKK.
When did you last go through Bkk Suvanabumi SL?Thanks for the update Red Kilt. December was my last time through subarnavumi airport. Will check out the new setup next month.
SL.
First trip to Thailand coming up in mid to late October. So really not that far away. Looking forward to it and to reading some of the posts on here.
Usually am active on the "Tijuana" area of this site since that is where I usually go. Thailand seems like an entirely new ballgame. Entirely.
Fast Eddie 48
09-12-15, 00:35
Thanks for the update Red Kilt. December was my last time through subarnavumi airport. Will check out the new setup next month.
SL.To Sunlover.
Take the airport train is fastest if you don't have a lot of baggage city link take about 40 min to Markasan or Phayathai cost is 45 bht the express cost 150 bht only 30 min less stop and you can transfer to MRT at Markasan station or take a taxi to hotel.
Fast eddie 48.
I have read upon arrival at BKK airport the line for taxis for going into Bangkok can be very long. One solution would be to go up 2 floors to the departure level and get a taxi who dropped a fare?
Has anyone tried this? Any problems or warnings to others who attempt this shortcut?Been doing this for years without a problem, very efficient never having to wait at all, in fact when you are making your way over to the cab the driver will actually hail you at times. Cost from BKK to Nana, 235 baht minus toll which he avoided this time, seemed just as quick although it was early morning 7 am.
Been doing this for years without a problem, very efficient never having to wait at all, in fact when you are making your way over to the cab the driver will actually hail you at times. Cost from BKK to Nana, 235 baht minus toll which he avoided this time, seemed just as quick although it was early morning 7 am.As the line for taxis moves very quickly and never more thana ten minute wait. This contrasts with having to hike luggage up tp the Depatures level. Just tto save 50 baht.
. . in fact when you are making your way over to the cab the driver will actually hail you at times. This has changed now.
As I stated in Post # 7810, there is a machine at the taxi control point that dispenses a ticket which allocates you to a numbered taxi bay after you have pressed the button.
Controllers direct you to your numbered bay. It seems to be a means of keeping a better record too as the ticket shows the cab driver's name and the registration number along with phone numbers to call if you have a problem.
I waited only a few minutes last week as the line moved very rapidly.
Mr Enternational
09-12-15, 12:23
This has changed now.
As I stated in Post # 7810, there is a machine at the taxi control point that dispenses a ticket which allocates you to a numbered taxi bay after you have pressed the buttonI wonder what the meter is reading to Pattaya these days. I am still paying 900 including tolls up top.
Wolvenvacht
09-12-15, 12:30
I wonder what the meter is reading to Pattaya these days. I am still paying 900 including tolls up top.I have seen in many Bangkok taxis a printed tariff to most of the other cities in Thailand. It looked rather "official" (but one can never be sure of course) and the prices were quite reasonable and based upon a fixed price per km.
Wolvenvacht
09-13-15, 17:01
As reported by Stickboy (http://www.stickboybangkok.com/news/15-30-day-visa-exemption-stamps-suspended-at-thai-cambodian-border/).
Thai immigration have suspended 15 and 30 day visa exemption stamps for foreigners coming into the country across the Cambodian border, effective immediately.
The news broke late on Friday night of changes to the rules and many reported on Saturday visa runners at Cambodia and Kanchanaburi border crossings were told if they left Thailand they could not re-enter the country on a visa exemption stamp.
Holders of valid Tourist Visas can still exit and re-enter to activate their second or third entries as normal. Holders of multiple entry visas are also unaffected by these new rules.
UPDATED: Today, Sunday 13th, Aranyaprathet, Ban Packard & Kanchanaburi border crossings were NOT allowing holders of valid visas to exit and re-enter.
The rumour is the restrictions will be lifted in a few days with new rules stating visitors can only stay a maximum of 90 days in a calendar year using visa exemption stamps.
Unfortunately there has been no official announcement from the immigration department but one would suspect the measures are a knee-jerk reaction to the recent exposure of corrupt immigration officers that came to light during the Bangkok bombing investigation.
No reports have emerged so far of any changes at the Malaysian or Laos border crossing checkpoints and it is business as usual at all international airports.
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!There are hundreds of custom tailors throughout Bangkok, but the Monte Carlo Tailors and Narin Couture are two custom tailors that are highly rated:
Monte Carlo Tailors http://www.mctailor.com/.
Narin Couture http://www.narin-couture.com/home.html.
Many years ago, I made the mistake of buying several "custom" suits in Bangkok. I should of known better when the tailor shop's "high pressure" sales pitch made me feel like I was buying a used car. After I got home, buttons began to fall off; stitching began to unravel; fabric began to sag; etc. It was one of the most expensive and disappointing experience that I've had in Bangkok, but the blame was all on me. I wanted cheap; and I got cheap.
Wolvenvacht
09-13-15, 20:42
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!"Tailor on Ten" also comes highly recommended. http://www.tailoronten.com/. They are actually not on Sukhumvit Soi 10, but at the end of Sukhumvit Soi 8.
It takes about 5 days to get your suit ready and the quality is really top, but don't expect "cheap" here. Their shirts are also very nice, with mother of pearl buttons and stitched monogram if you wish.
Luckyguy7198
09-13-15, 20:44
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!9 days is more than enough to get several custom made suits.
Had a couple handmade last year at Empire (http://www.theempiretailors.com/location.php) and Narin (http://narin-couture.com/home.html), my wife and colleagues said I looked younger!
ViajeroGringo
09-13-15, 20:57
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!I've gone to and recommended Raja's Fashion at Nana Plaza for years. http://www.rajasfashions.com/ and also on tripadvisor. First suit has served me well for over 10 years, and have had several more since then. Shirts fit great, but I find his collars a little stiff. Bobby is manager / owner and is an international example of excellent customer service, greeting you with cold beer or gin and tonic while you pick style and material. Probably not the cheapest suit in Bangkok, but well worth it. He suggests 7 days for suit, but can turn it around in 3-4 if necessary. They used to be right at entrance of Nana Plaza (big plus, you could sneak out back door) but moved to exit of Nana BTS, sharing space with On 8 Hotel.
9 days is more than enough to get several custom made suits.
Had a couple handmade last year at Empire (http://www.theempiretailors.com/location.php) and Narin (http://narin-couture.com/home.html), my wife and colleagues said I looked younger!These look like great tailors. I am sure it will vary based on fabric and styles, but approximately how much did your suits end up costing? Based on your discussions with the tailors, do you think it would be possible to have some made in about 4 days?
Thanks.
SirWilliam4
09-14-15, 16:10
I've gone to and recommended Raja's Fashion at Nana Plaza for years. http://www.rajasfashions.com/ and also on tripadvisor. First suit has served me well for over 10 years, and have had several more since then. Shirts fit great, but I find his collars a little stiff. Bobby is manager / owner and is an international example of excellent customer service, greeting you with cold beer or gin and tonic while you pick style and material. Probably not the cheapest suit in Bangkok, but well worth it. He suggests 7 days for suit, but can turn it around in 3-4 if necessary. They used to be right at entrance of Nana Plaza (big plus, you could sneak out back door) but moved to exit of Nana BTS, sharing space with On 8 Hotel.Raja's is simply the best. Not the cheapest; just the best. Bobby will take good care of you.
SW4.
Would greatly appreciate any recommnedations for getting a suit stiched. There are so many shops around but would be nice to go to one that is credible. I have about 9 days more in Thailand and hope that that will be enough to get one stiched.
Thanks!Green Apple Tailors has been around for over 25 years. They are now located in the arcade section behind the Intercontinental Hotel. European customers are mostly Swiss and Germans. Lufthansa flight crews use him. Goes to Switzerland and Germany twice a year to meet customers and take orders.
Owner, Aroon Chokenana (aka Jerry).
InterContinental Hotel Bangkok Arcade, 973 Ploen Chit Road.
Tel no: 66 (0) 2 252 3191 or (0) 2 656 0172.
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