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MichaelSamuel
09-14-15, 23:42
The express train is suspended indefinitely last I read. But the local doesn't take that much longer, maybe 15 minutes and is 1/3 the cost.
I have't seen long lines that didn't move in BKK in years. Either it was someone who hit rush hour or someone referring to DMK. It does seem DMK is a transportation disaster for arrivals.
To Sunlover.
Take the airport train is fastest if you don't have a lot of baggage city link take about 40 min to Markasan or Phayathai cost is 45 bht the express cost 150 bht only 30 min less stop and you can transfer to MRT at Markasan station or take a taxi to hotel.
Fast eddie 48.
That as I plan my next November trip (and seek up-to-date information) that the scope of this board is incredibly limited.
There just is nothing new. Mere amplification of tedious detail on a very limited number of places*. And the same is true of the web. Look up "Bangkok Massage Parlours. Top ten" - and all the reports cover virtually the same places. Night life reports are not just constrained to NEP, Soi Cowboy and Patong but also to the same three or four bars in each place. The same applies to Pattaya and Phuket.
* and excruitiatig arguments as to whether or not 'A' is a better lay than 'B. '
It is all a bit like country guide books. Each edition reinforces previous editions because visitors / reporters never get outside the places in the guide book.
I am deliberately making a list of places to avoid. And 'tho I may visit NEP and Soi Cowboy it will not be to any bars recommended here.
Time both locals and visitors "explored. ".
Crocodilexp
09-15-15, 21:06
That as I plan my next November trip (and seek up-to-date information) that the scope of this board is incredibly limited.
There just is nothing new. Mere amplification of tedious detail on a very limited number of places*
Hundred times this. There are very few posters (for instance ThatAsshole or Opebo) who occasionally bring us reports off the beaten track. Virtually nobody follows up on their exploits.
It would be nice if this website had the form of a wiki (sorted by area / town), so it's obvious which information is abundant and which is lacking, plus making it more worthwhile to fill in the details. In the current format, the often-discussed places tend to be discussed even more, and the oddball ones get ignored and buried even if somebody bothers to write a thorough high-quality report on them.
This is not only an issue with the Bangkok section, it's all over the site (also KL and Jakarta, for one).
Luckyguy7198
09-16-15, 23:47
These look like great tailors. I am sure it will vary based on fabric and styles, but approximately how much did your suits end up costing? Based on your discussions with the tailors, do you think it would be possible to have some made in about 4 days?
Thanks.Forgive me for the delayed response while I was bonking away in Pattaya.
4 days is possible but a suit fitted in quick time would look as much. One was almost 5. 5 K Baht and the other was a little under 7 K Baht last year.
I was reading the Stickman's Guide to Thailand, when I came across this rather obvious typo:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/travel.html
One phrase:
"This scam is widespread in Thailand and particularly prevalent on Patpong Beach in Phuket and in Pattaya. ".
Of course there is no Patpong beach in Phuket. It is Patong beach. Everyone knows that. LOL.
But Patpong appears so many times in the article. Famous for its night market.
Even for the experienced monger in Bangkok, there is still a baffling array of choices. Limited time, limited powers, limited money. What to do with each day?
Morning bars?
I would like to find a stunning girl with big tits a Soapy. La Belle maybe. Check Colonze 2 Upstairs, The Lord? Nuru bodyslides?
Oily Visits to some pretty girls? Maybe an A+ visit. Did not do that for a while.
My favourite bargirls? Try a Coyote?
Try an Escort if can find a good slim pretty one with no sillies?
I am not really asking for suggestions. I just show that with a confusing array of choices, decision is not easy.
Even when to try a new girl and when to repeat.
Some day must schedule a trip to Pattaya. I will be a complete newbie there LOL. I won't know what to pay.
One poster was critical of senior posters for reporting on known places, not really weird or new. Of course no one is employing us to try weird places, or places not our style. I don't like discos because they largely don't have music and what they is too loud for talking to be possible for me. It wastes too much time in the hunt as well, I think, and the hours are too late for me. I would prefer places with fabulous girl options at 10 AM or even earlier would be better.
At least whatever I try is not secret. I share anything learned, which may be of use to someone.
Might visit a friend in hospital today. She leads a normal life these days, and decided to get her silicones down sized. Less heavy and more comfortable. Another close friend got her silicones taken out recently. Her remaining be cup is a big improvement. She got a small nose reduction too, and actually looks quite stunning to my biased perspective (in her 30's). Meanwhile other girls I known with small tits are always talking about getting silicone. I try to talk them out of it. Silicones are just not special in any way to me. Boring stuff. Ging at Crazy House is special because she has very large well shaped naturals. Another new girl is tall curvy and big tits, but face did not really appeal to me. Big tits are just nice for a change for me. I do tiny tit girls regularly with no problem. As long as not saggy or ugly. There has to be more to a girl than just tits.
Mandarin (lower level) had an absolute stunner with reddish dark blonde hair Thursday night sitting with a guy. I could not tell if she worked there. He was frisky and at one point pulled her top down exposing nipples and most of her tits. Was hard to look away. She was a 10 out of 10 for me and I don't give 10's easily. Best looking Thai girl I have seen for years, starting with the face most important of all, but body excellent too. I might go back just to find out if she works there or was a visitor. Maybe a Coyote girl. Would be happy to pay double for a girl like that, just to try.
Confused mind of a monger. Lots of thoughts and priority conflicts floating through the brain. Other thoughts of giving up mongering. LOL How likely is that? Or at least cutting back, a lot. That notion severely conflicts with the "fear of missing out" imperative. What about the most stunning girls that I did not fuck yet, or only had once and crave for a 2nd go?
Fortunately I don't miss the plainer girls so badly, even with good performance. There is nothing preventing a wide selection of girls from performing very well. However very few will have the special looks. Nothing frustrates me more than the disappearance of favourite stunning girls that performed really great. Bubbly Bai Fern must have been gone for 2 years now, and only saw her 2 or 3 times. Can't forget her. Can't replace her. I still miss a stunning Greek-German girl Cindy I had 10 years ago, only once. 2nd day she came for me but I was too ill (food poisoning) to be able to do her again. A Tragedy. Is it a special monger's brain sickness to miss girls so badly? The emptiness feels similar to the death of a very close friend.
Maybe I am not a sex addict. I recently had no sex for 6 weeks. LOL Is that possible for a true sex addict? I guess sex is a minor addiction since don't absolutely have to have it. However it is a very strong motivator.
Wolvenvacht
09-26-15, 08:19
Even for the experienced monger in Bangkok, there is still a baffling array of choices. Limited time, limited powers, limited money. What to do with each day?
I think it is even a worse problem for the inexperienced monger.
On this and other similar fora, one regularly reads posts full of "missed opportunities".
Time and time again, a "good" catch was let go, in the hope of catching something "better" just around the corner. "She's nice, but maybe I'll find another one with bigger tits in the next bar" and the next one with bigger tits is discarded for someone "in the next club there may be one who will DFK more willingly".
Etc, etc. ad nauseam and the monger ends up all frustrated, wasted, tired, out of money and totally disappointed. In that condition he grabs the next streetwalker that comes his way. Paying too much and falling asleep before anything fun happens.
In the bright morning light he discovers what a dog she really is, sends her away without a tip, starts up his laptop and writes an acrimonuous report on the forum, bitterly complaining about the lack of talent and how everything used to be better.
And yet, there are simple techniques to avoid all this frustration and still have a good chance to improve the odds and end up with someone that may not be the ultimate top, but will likely be a lot better than what the random fluctuations of the probability wave have thrown your way.
Horny Landoora
09-26-15, 18:18
Ok so I have a few prospects lined up through TF and chatting with them line app thereafter. Most of them hint at sex themselves and want to meet up as soon as I land and want to spend the day with me.
Considering most of you guys are experts now on Thai girls, how do you generally dump them after you are done with them?
Most of the girls have come across as really jealous and possessive. I have no intention to keep one unless I know she's my type and doable again! So any pointers on how to let them go in best polite manner would be appreciated.
Also someone mentioned to slip in some cash in packet to most of them after the deed as pocket money, isn't that offensive?? I mean I don't want to bed someone and get whacked thereafter cause they think I just paid them for sex!
Wolvenvacht
09-27-15, 09:29
Ok so I have a few prospects lined up through TF and chatting with them line app thereafter. Most of them hint at sex themselves and want to meet up as soon as I land and want to spend the day with me.
Considering most of you guys are experts now on Thai girls, how do you generally dump them after you are done with them?
Most of the girls have come across as really jealous and possessive. I have no intention to keep one unless I know she's my type and doable again! So any pointers on how to let them go in best polite manner would be appreciated.
Also someone mentioned to slip in some cash in packet to most of them after the deed as pocket money, isn't that offensive?? I mean I don't want to bed someone and get whacked thereafter cause they think I just paid them for sex!That's why only dealing with professionals is so much easier: they understand you pay them to go away.
The whole problem is that with non-pro girls some personal interest will (almost) always enter into the relationship. Meeting them "in person" will only make it even more difficult.
Absolutely the first step is to avoid jealous and possessive girls. That way only lies trouble.
Probably the best procedure is to let the relationship fizzle out. After the night together, be very vague about your immediate plans so she cannot latch on to you (a meeting with another farang friend is always a good excuse). Do give her some money as a gift so she can buy something nice for her. If she is really a non-pro, 1000 to 1500 baht will already go a long way. From then on, answering slowly on her line-messages will surely gets the message across that you to will not become one item.
Of course, if you have made it clear from the very beginning that you are not looking for long time relationships, your task will be much easier. I always write in my profiles "looking for a companion when travelling through Thailand".
But if you made her believe you are a prime candidate for marriage, then you only deserve what you got yourself into!
Mr Enternational
09-27-15, 09:55
Ok so I have a few prospects lined up through TF and chatting with them line app thereafter. Most of them hint at sex themselves and want to meet up as soon as I land and want to spend the day with me.
Considering most of you guys are experts now on Thai girls, how do you generally dump them after you are done with them?
Most of the girls have come across as really jealous and possessive. I have no intention to keep one unless I know she's my type and doable again! So any pointers on how to let them go in best polite manner would be appreciated.
Also someone mentioned to slip in some cash in packet to most of them after the deed as pocket money, isn't that offensive?? I mean I don't want to bed someone and get whacked thereafter cause they think I just paid them for sex!Although it is possible that some in your bunch may be on the game, why do you want to treat women who are not hookers that way when there are plenty of hookers around that you can pump and dump?
Although it is possible that some in your bunch may be on the game, why do you want to treat women who are not hookers that way when there are plenty of hookers around that you can pump and dump?It must give guys a very special feeling of conquest to fuck and dump girls. Personally I prefer to just pay the money with no guilt of having just used her as fuck. I am helping support them. They keep coming back so no conflict.
Last night was a funny one. I went to Mercury to see the bar girl (and the Coyote girl), intending to BF the bargirl and take her either ST or LT. I entertained the bargirl first, then while she was gogo dancing I "entertained" the Coyote girl. It was known I would not be able to fuck the Coyote girl. However seems the gogo girl (that I have known a long time) was miffed and she did not return to me, instead wasting time out the back changing room, and eventually moving on to some other customer. I was surprised that she would act "jealously" just because I was generous with buying drinks for some other pretty girl. When I asked her why she disappeared so long, she said she was "busy".
As a very non-jealous type of guy, I may have little appreciation of the feelings of girls, despite knowing the girl over 2 years. Maybe I misread her completely and something else was going on, like receiving a message from another customer, and too shy to tell me he was going get priority. I don't mind if girls just tell me. I can move on to something else. Not keen on just getting a distance silent treatment though.
3rd possibly is she had pains in lower regions. Again, if so, she could just tell me.
Ok so I have a few prospects lined up through TF and chatting with them line app thereafter. Most of them hint at sex themselves and want to meet up as soon as I land and want to spend the day with me.
Considering most of you guys are experts now on Thai girls, how do you generally dump them after you are done with them?
Most of the girls have come across as really jealous and possessive. I have no intention to keep one unless I know she's my type and doable again! So any pointers on how to let them go in best polite manner would be appreciated.
Also someone mentioned to slip in some cash in packet to most of them after the deed as pocket money, isn't that offensive?? I mean I don't want to bed someone and get whacked thereafter cause they think I just paid them for sex!Honestly, playing them with no intention of follow through, promising things that you will never deliver on, and dumping them after you get laid is quite awful. Guess you have very little respect for your fellow humans. Your actions really sour some gals on foreign guys. Be up front with them. Tell them your intentions. Really, you should be utilizing P4 P and not toying with women who may really be looking for a real relationship.
Although it is possible that some in your bunch may be on the game, why do you want to treat women who are not hookers that way when there are plenty of hookers around that you can pump and dump?I think for some guys it is important to feel like they "got game. " Never understood that and I always took it as a sign of insecurity. P4 P is great. It's a guilt free transaction for both parties.
Horny Landoora
09-27-15, 11:45
It seems everyone read my post in a manner that am being the bad guy with pump and forget intention. I did mention that I intend to keep up with someone who is ultimately my type on long term basis.
Again to clarify, I have not promised anyone marriage nor a long term companionship just to get them laid. The girls on these apps have sent me their naked pics in just few hours of our interaction / chat so let me specify they definitely know what's in it for everyone involved. Although some did come across as really possessive and jealous with whom I tried to strike off at that instance. Somehow I didn't want any surprises after I meet them and face such a scenario where they latch on to me and don't let go. Yes I will enjoy the usual experience of bar girls, soapies and massages when there just like everyone else but if I can find a regular girl I don't think there is any harm. For people lecturing me on morality am sure there are many who have steady Gfs or wives back at home and still indulge in P4 P. I Am no different from the rest.
All I want to know was general advise on how to handle Thai girls as it is my first time with Thai non wgs and if you read all I asked was to know best way to not hurt them if things are not good enough for mE!
Peace out to all!
It seems everyone read my post as my way of being the bad guy with pump and forget intention. I did mention that I intend to keep up with someone who is ultimately my type on long term basis
Peace out to all!Do not worry. There are many who do not have enough to do other than to criticise. If you run back just ten pages on one thread you will find that one member has posted nearly 30 posts.
Unless you lapse into totally bureaucratic language dotting all the "I's" and crossing all the "t's" someone will make every effort to misinterpret what you say.
Carry on providing interesting and helpful posts.
Horny Landoora
09-27-15, 11:55
That's why only dealing with professionals is so much easier: they understand you pay them to go away.
Probably the best procedure is to let the relationship fizzle out. After the night together, be very vague about your immediate plans so she cannot latch on to you (a meeting with another farang friend is always a good excuse). Do give her some money as a gift so she can buy something nice for her. If she is really a non-pro, 1000 to 1500 baht will already go a long way. From then on, answering slowly on her line-messages will surely gets the message across that you to will not become one item.
But if you made her believe you are a prime candidate for marriage, then you only deserve what you got yourself into!Thanks. I get the point and I have not made such promises nor I live in BKK and visit only a couple of times a year. I was just trying to understand how Generally Thai girls are in such matters! I don't want one to bed and then she starts contemplating marriage after that!
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. . . .I don't mind if girls just tell me. I can move on to something else. Not keen on just getting a distance silent treatment though. This line made me laugh Syz.
You are talking about my ex-wife, and probably a few million other "western" women who presume that men are able to read what is in their heads every moment of every day.
It seems everyone read my post in a manner that am being the bad guy with pump and forget intention. I did mention that I intend to keep up with someone who is ultimately my type on long term basis!Yeh, great if you can find girls who want you, just for the sex. There must be a higher percentage of girls looking for a long term boyfriend, I am guessing (no expert). Why would young pretty girls want an old guy like me? Even if horny, what would make them pick me for a try out on the bed? I was surprised when a 35 year old stylish type of Thai girl (Isaan) was interested in me just after breaking up with her former BF. Or could be she just pretended. Messaged me every day (which is no proof). LOL Has two kids already, so that may limit her opportunities for a young new man. Told me that one Farang fell for her (supposedly) within just 4 weeks, but he wasn't her type. Said he tended to act like he was superior and "god's gift" so that the girl should be in love with him too. LOL She indicated she orgasms with really great difficulty (only occasionally), so perhaps his sexual performance wasn't good enough too. (she did not mention this. I only speculate) LOL. Unfortunately for her, I have not left my existing GF who is both slightly prettier and better body as well. I paid her for sex. Was good but I was not immediately spellbound. She can try heaps of guys and see if she can find a really good guy.
Lets be clear. Thai girls that start hooking (P4 P), can be looking for a permanent man too. In the meantime getting money to support the kids, and some good sex (some bad sex). Some guys think a hooker never enjoys it. LOL That really is a funny thought for me. Some don't. Some can, especially after a few "leg openers", they can forget themselves and get carried away. Recently had a couple of working girls who could even orgasm fairly easily in mish position. Okay One had had no sex for quite a period beforehand. The other, Mai at Can Cam, just a very sensitive girl.
I would guess that of the guys in my home country with a Thai wife, perhaps 50% of these wives were once P4P to some extent. Some of these relationships work out in the long term. Some don't. Just the same as the non P4P Thai wives don't always work out either. Are the odds any better? I don't know.
I believe it is very unwise to pick up any girlfriend too quickly, and sexual compatibility is an important factor. Not a great Idea to go looking for a girlfriend. Looking for good sex makes more sense.
Some of us ISGers have a wife or GF, that we might need to ditch, much more importantly than getting a new GF or extra GF. In this case, P4 P is the better option to fill in the gaps in sex life. For single guys unattached, playing the field is normal, I guess. Unfortunately, I have never been totally single (no girlfriend) for more than 1 year maximum. Stupid man, that I am. LOL. Tend to pick up girlfriends accidentally without exactly meaning too. That is why P4 P is a much better plan for some of us.
Hats off to guys out there who can find a gik girl that wants to keep on fucking them regularly with no strings (not a girlfriend) and no payment or support. At my age, I think this is a bit unrealistic for me, especially as my preference is for rather pretty girls well below my age. There is/are girl(s) who would like me to be their permanent man, but that is different. That is relatively easy to find in Thailand. So many girls out there want/need a good man. It's not just wanting a gik fuck though. I know more than one guy who met his future wife on his first day in Thailand. LOL The girl sees a man unattached, can't believe her luck, and just pounces. The man is overwhelmed and can't escape.
I believe it is very unwise to pick up any girlfriend too quickly, and sexual compatibility is an important factor. Not a great Idea to go looking for a girlfriend. Looking for good sex makes more sense.Sexual attraction fades for both partners in just about all relationships; compatibility in other areas is far more important. I can go out and get laid whenever I want to. Meeting someone I really get on with is special. I've been with my gal for over 8 years. Sex is a rare event and that does not bother either one of us. We still have a great if not better time together now then we did when we first me. Our personalities are complimentary. We have very similar senses of humor, are both not jealous types, and not touchy feely romantics. Hell she even has one more advanced degree than I do. Over the 8 years together I think we have raised our voices to each other 2 or three times. Its great. We both enjoy out time together. As far as sex is concerned if she goes out and gets laid, so what? If she does, she is discreet as am I. So, no harm no foul.
It's kind of the "Asian" way. People here compartmentalize their lives. I think there is some wisdom in that. Gals who might make good long term partners might not be the best sexual partners and vice versa. Westerners tend to have the romantic notion that you can find everything you want in one person. Asians tend to know better.
Wolvenvacht
09-28-15, 05:47
Yeh, great if you can find girls who want you, just for the sex. There must be a higher percentage of girls looking for a long term boyfriend, I am guessing (no expert). Why would young pretty girls want an old guy like me? Even if horny, what would make them pick me for a try out on the bed? I was surprised when a 35 year old stylish type of Thai girl (Isaan) was interested in me just after breaking up with her former BF. Or could be she just pretended. Messaged me every day (which is no proof). LOL Has two kids already, so that may limit her opportunities for a young new man.
Things that limit a Thai girl's chances on the marriage market are:
* over 30.
* previous marriage.
* children.
* having her own job, especially when she also holds a degree.
Many of these ladies are on TF and clearly mention "if you are looking for holiday GF, search next profile". The market of (older) farangs seems to be their major hope.
It is funny to note that few are looking for guys younger than themselves. That is something that is "not done" in their culture perhaps?
Randy Murican
09-28-15, 11:11
Things that limit a Thai girl's chances on the marriage market are:
* over 30.
* previous marriage.
* children.
* having her own job, especially when she also holds a degree.
Many of these ladies are on TF and clearly mention "if you are looking for holiday GF, search next profile". The market of (older) farangs seems to be their major hope.
It is funny to note that few are looking for guys younger than themselves. That is something that is "not done" in their culture perhaps?I've met a few girls off off DIA, TF and PinaLove and bedded them all on the first meeting. I would agree with all of your points except the I'm not a 'holiday GF' disclaimer. Putting that in her profile allows her some cover should it be seen by friends or family. Any girl that wants to meet on arrival or wants to plan an entire day with you is flying UTR. I prefer to think of them as Sugar Babys, girls that are willing to provide what we need, but can't or don't want to be seen in a typical monger spot. These girls have a regular life but need some help when the bills come due. Maintaining the illusion of no P4 P is very important to them but they always appreciate a generous travel allowance or gift for their next shopping trip. It's important to be sensitive to their needs concerning these 'little white lies'. As long as I'm getting laid, I could care less. The advantage to me is that these girls tend to be low mileage and less jaded than their more professional counterparts.
Blanquiceleste
09-28-15, 11:29
These girls have a regular life but need some help when the bills come due.
The advantage to me is that these girls tend to be low mileage and less jaded than their more professional counterparts.I have to agree 100% with you here Josh. A few days back I had recounted an experience in BKK. The thread is here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1776013#post1776013.
The point I am making it such girls could bump into you on the street or in a mall or in a restaurant or in the sky train or even inside a temple. One needs to be always alert to opportunity and never feel shy about asking. What's the worst possible outcome? Hearing "No"?
Sexual attraction fades for both partners in just about all relationships; compatibility in other areas is far more important. I can go out and get laid whenever I want to. Meeting someone I really get on with is special. I've been with my gal for over 8 years. Sex is a rare event and that does not bother either one of us. We still have a great if not better time together now then we did when we first me. Our personalities are complimentary. We have very similar senses of humor, are both not jealous types, and not touchy feely romantics. Hell she even has one more advanced degree than I do. Over the 8 years together I think we have raised our voices to each other 2 or three times. Its great. We both enjoy out time together. As far as sex is concerned if she goes out and gets laid, so what? If she does, she is discreet as am I. So, no harm no foul.
It's kind of the "Asian" way. People here compartmentalize their lives. I think there is some wisdom in that. Gals who might make good long term partners might not be the best sexual partners and vice versa. Westerners tend to have the romantic notion that you can find everything you want in one person. Asians tend to know better.I have GF 10 years now. Sex is not quite rare but not often enough. I am am not at all bored to fuck her. Always fun. I would like to get it 4 times a week when in Thailand or more but don't get that much. Hence haven't managed to cut the mongering.
I have GF 10 years now. Sex is not quite rare but not often enough. I am am not at all bored to fuck her. Always fun. I would like to get it 4 times a week when in Thailand or more but don't get that much. Hence haven't managed to cut the mongering.I can stay interested in P4 P gals because I only repeat about every six weeks. Usually no matter how good looking or skilled a gal is I only want to do her every month or so.
Randy Murican
09-28-15, 22:39
I have to agree 100% with you here Josh. A few days back I had recounted an experience in BKK. The thread is here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1776013#post1776013.
The point I am making it such girls could bump into you on the street or in a mall or in a restaurant or in the sky train or even inside a temple. One needs to be always alert to opportunity and never feel shy about asking. What's the worst possible outcome? Hearing "No"?Yes BC, your report is a great example of 'freestyling' which is finding and taking advantage of a target of opportunity in the wild. While not common, being vigilant and open to the opportunity when it presents itself is essential. Having just a little bit of game helps as well but you don't need to be Casanova. Dressing nicely, being well groomed and treating them with a modicum of respect will increase your chances of success. Mongers are unlikely to be able to play in this pool if they're wearing flip-flops and a wife beater or you treat them like a girl you pulled off the stage in RB4. I like the less transactional feel of these types of encounters but I don't delude myself into thinking she would be in my bed sans the prospect of being rewarded.
Everyone is different, but a mix of chat girls, pro's, massage girls, and the occasional freestyler works well for me.
Yes BC, your report is a great example of 'freestyling' which is finding and taking advantage of a target of opportunity in the wild. While not common, being vigilant and open to the opportunity when it presents itself is essential. Having just a little bit of game helps as well but you don't need to be Casanova. Dressing nicely, being well groomed and treating them with a modicum of respect will increase your chances of success.I love reading these stories, and I have related several similar experiences (mostly in Philippines and Vientiane / Luang Prabang, Laos but also occasionally in Bangkok).
It is best never to go out EXPECTING a chance meeting like has been described in BC and JoshInyu's posts WILL happen but, as Josh points out, while not common, being vigilant and open to the opportunity when it presents itself is essential. .
In my experience, if I go out alone with the specific intention of having a good dinner and NOT seeking a companion, I can be reasonably sure that someone will pop up unexpectedly out of the woodwork.
LoverboyJerico
09-29-15, 05:06
Hello guys,
I am sorry if this question is out of place but I am planning to travel to Thai next month. I am planning to carry my tobacco smoking pipe and some tobacco. I needed to know if smoking a pipe is allowed and more importantly is carrying one to Thailand is allowed? Do we have any other pipe smokers here on the forum?
I have lived in Bangkok for several years now. Spent the last few months mining the "normal" girl scene via Date In Asia, Thai Friendly, and Thai Cupid. For me, it is hard to ignore the following observations after meeting dozens of women from those sites. Of course, there will be the rare exception. The extremely rare exception:
1. She will rarely look as young and attractive as her best photo. Count on her looking older and heavier than her worst photo.
2. The age range requests (of you) on her profile don't mean much. If you are smiling sincerely in your photo, you could be 10-15 years older than her highest age request, say so on your profile, and she will still contact you.
3. No matter what she tells you once you have moved on to the Line / What's App correspondence stage, she will probably hop into bed with you after a single dinner meeting anyway.
4. She probably won't be very good in bed.
5. If a woman is still getting that side-long glance from men standing next to her on an elevator, a vibe that say, "hmm. You look good", she will probably NOT be on a dating site trying to get strange men to tell her how beautiful / cute / attractive she is. She is already getting that "fix" in the real world and, naturally, would be more interested in getting out there in the real world to continue triggering that response in men than sit in a room alone clicking on a keyboard to scrounge it up. The women you meet on those dating sites are generally a couple of years past the expiration date on triggering that vibe from men in the real world for various reasons. And that is why they have turned to the dating site as a source for it.
5. 1. If your immediate response when you get a first face-to-face meeting with a woman is, "Gee, she so attractive, I wonder why she needs to go on a dating site to find a man. ", you have probably met a woman with a plan to bamboozle you out of as much "emergency" rent, phone bill, electric bill, medical bill expenses as possible before you catch on and dump her. That doesn't mean that you can't instead work out an ersatz P4P relationship with the "student" or the "single mom" that is perfectly rewarding for both of you for a while. I have converted a couple of those into fun times for me. But it will still come down to you paying her for sex and probably quite a bit more in the long run than if you had just gone to a go-go bar to meet a hottie.
Hello guys,
I am sorry if this question is out of place but I am planning to travel to Thai next month. I am planning to carry my tobacco smoking pipe and some tobacco. I needed to know if smoking a pipe is allowed and more importantly is carrying one to Thailand is allowed? Do we have any other pipe smokers here on the forum?I don't smoke at all, but one of my friends living in Thailand is a pipe smoker here, so, I guess that it's allowed.
Mr Enternational
09-29-15, 13:55
Things that limit a Thai girl's chances on the marriage market are:
* over 30.
* previous marriage.
* children.
* having her own job, especially when she also holds a degree.My ex girlfriend in Bangkok had her own taxi. Another reason she told me why she could not get a Thai guy is because she was too tall. I am 5'9" (1.75 m) and she was about the same height as me.
I have lived in Bangkok for several years now. Spent the last few months mining the "normal" girl scene via Date In Asia, Thai Friendly, and Thai Cupid. For me, it is hard to ignore the following observations after meeting dozens of women from those sites. Of course, there will be the rare exception. The extremely rare exception:
1. She will rarely look as young and attractive as her best photo. Count on her looking older and heavier than her worst photo.
2. The age range requests (of you) on her profile don't mean much. If you are smiling sincerely in your photo, you could be 10-15 years older than her highest age request, say so on your profile, and she will still contact you.
3. No matter what she tells you once you have moved on to the Line / What's App correspondence stage, she will probably hop into bed with you after a single dinner meeting anyway.
4. She probably won't be very good in bed.
5. If a woman is still getting that side-long glance from men standing next to her on an elevator, a vibe that say, "hmm. You look good", she will probably NOT be on a dating site trying to get strange men to tell her how beautiful / cute / attractive she is. She is already getting that "fix" in the real world and, naturally, would be more interested in getting out there in the real world to continue triggering that response in men than sit in a room alone clicking on a keyboard to scrounge it up. The women you meet on those dating sites are generally a couple of years past the expiration date on triggering that vibe from men in the real world for various reasons. And that is why they have turned to the dating site as a source for it.
5. 1. If your immediate response when you get a first face-to-face meeting with a woman is, "Gee, she so attractive, I wonder why she needs to go on a dating site to find a man. ", you have probably met a woman with a plan to bamboozle you out of as much "emergency" rent, phone bill, electric bill, medical bill expenses as possible before you catch on and dump her. That doesn't mean that you can't instead work out an ersatz P4P relationship with the "student" or the "single mom" that is perfectly rewarding for both of you for a while. I have converted a couple of those into fun times for me. But it will still come down to you paying her for sex and probably quite a bit more in the long run than if you had just gone to a go-go bar to meet a hottie.I agree with most of your points, but my own experience has been different on points 3 and 4. Usually, I don't score on the first date with women that I meet via those websites, but surprisingly, most of them are better than expected between the sheets (maybe my expectations were lower than yours, though).
I agree with most of your points, but my own experience has been different on points 3 and 4. Usually, I don't score on the first date with women that I meet via those websites, but surprisingly, most of them are better than expected between the sheets (maybe my expectations were lower than yours, though).Or maybe the ones who were hot to hop into bed with me after the first dinner date weren't very good and if I'd hung in there for the tiny percentage who weren't up for a stay-over even after the second dinner date they would have been worth the wait. Haha. I'll never know. After the second date and no romance, I leave it up to the lady to make the next graphic invitation, which in those cases never came. But a couple of those are still Lining me about all kinds of other day-to-day nonsense. I assume they are women who really want pen pals, not bed mates. Not with me, at least.
Mr Enternational
09-29-15, 14:16
She is already getting that "fix" in the real world and, naturally, would be more interested in getting out there in the real world to continue triggering that response in men than sit in a room alone clicking on a keyboard to scrounge it up. The women you meet on those dating sites are generally a couple of years past the expiration date on triggering that vibe from men in the real world for various reasons.2002 called and said to leave it out of this. Man this is 2015. People no longer need to sit in a room alone on a keyboard. Everyone has a smart phone. And said smart phones have applications such as instagram where women like to put up their pictures and trigger that response from a multitude of men. Said smart phones also have applications such as tinder that is used by people trying to hook up. So the days of thinking someone would not be online looking to hook up if they were this, that, or the other have long passed. Now it is actually built into the culture and a way of life to find people this way no matter how one looks or what reactions they are able to trigger in the real world.
Mr Enternational
09-29-15, 14:35
I agree with most of your points, but my own experience has been different on points 3 and 4. Usually, I don't score on the first date with women that I meet via those websites, but surprisingly, most of them are better than expected between the sheets (maybe my expectations were lower than yours, though).I think I have scored on the first date more times than not. But like you said I do not go into anything with any expectations. I am just trying to have a good time and meet new people.
To me it goes right along with one of the best posts I have ever seen.
On this and other similar fora, one regularly reads posts full of "missed opportunities".
Time and time again, a "good" catch was let go, in the hope of catching something "better" just around the corner. "She's nice, but maybe I'll find another one with bigger tits in the next bar" and the next one with bigger tits is discarded for someone "in the next club there may be one who will DFK more willingly".
Etc, etc. ad nauseam and the monger ends up all frustrated, wasted, tired,.
What the fuck is it that guys are looking for? I rarely go into a place and see a woman I would not fuck. All of this the quality is low or not what it used to be at such and such place. I guess I neither have the high expectations nor the high standards as many guys. I can go in a place (or on a website), have a good time, and find someone to fuck with the least thought of what may be around the next corner. Doesn't matter anyway. No matter what girl you have, you are always going to see something better. But when you don't have a girl you can never be satisfied by what is available?
Guys,
Will be in BKK in less than 36 hours from now. Could you guys recommend a nice Breakfast place around Adelphi Suites.
Thank you.
AR.
Concupiscence
09-29-15, 18:49
Guys,
Will be in BKK in less than 36 hours from now. Could you guys recommend a nice Breakfast place around Adelphi Suites.
Thank you.
AR.The Monsoon Cafe in Adelphi Suites serves good continental breakfast. I took the breakfast included with room rent package, the last time I stayed here. If you are looking for Indian food, then there is India Today restaurant at the T point on Suk road where Soi 8 begins (this is a little expensive option) and another is in the first alley on the left hand side from the the point Soi 8 begins.
Wolvenvacht
09-29-15, 20:03
Hello guys,
I am sorry if this question is out of place but I am planning to travel to Thai next month. I am planning to carry my tobacco smoking pipe and some tobacco. I needed to know if smoking a pipe is allowed and more importantly is carrying one to Thailand is allowed? Do we have any other pipe smokers here on the forum?This is Thailand, not Singapore! LOL.
On the street or even in open bars, nobody will mind if you smoke your pipe. Just make sure it is real tobacco you are smoking and not some kind of strange weed.
And of course, don't smoke inside someones house, in a temple, in a shopping mall, an office, a restaurant, . . .
Tony Hoeprano
09-29-15, 21:20
Guys,
Will be in BKK in less than 36 hours from now. Could you guys recommend a nice Breakfast place around Adelphi Suites.
Thank you.
AR.Dream Hotel Breakfast Buffet on Soi 15, across Sukhumvit Rd.
2002 called and said to leave it out of this. Man this is 2015. People no longer need to sit in a room alone on a keyboard. Everyone has a smart phone. And said smart phones have applications such as instagram where women like to put up their pictures and trigger that response from a multitude of men. Said smart phones also have applications such as tinder that is used by people trying to hook up. So the days of thinking someone would not be online looking to hook up if they were this, that, or the other have long passed. Now it is actually built into the culture and a way of life to find people this way no matter how one looks or what reactions they are able to trigger in the real world.Nice update on what has happened since 2002. But Instagram and Tinder are not the sites I was referring to or from which the women I spoke of and met were found. The profile set ups and pleas for personal attention and detailed response is much more of a commitment on the sites I referred to than on Instagram or Tinder. It wasn't about women who sit in bars getting hit on by men all night while their eyes are trained on their smartphones trying to hook up with another one who just tapped into Tinder 5 seconds ago.
I have lived in Bangkok for several years now. Spent the last few months mining the "normal" girl scene via Date In Asia, Thai Friendly, and Thai Cupid. For me, it is hard to ignore the following observations after meeting dozens of women from those sites. Of course, there will be the rare exception. The extremely rare exception:
1. She will rarely look as young and attractive as her best photo. Count on her looking older and heavier than her worst photo.
2. The age range requests (of you) on her profile don't mean much. If you are smiling sincerely in your photo, you could be 10-15 years older than her highest age request, say so on your profile, and she will still contact you.
3. No matter what she tells you once you have moved on to the Line / What's App correspondence stage, she will probably hop into bed with you after a single dinner meeting anyway.
4. She probably won't be very good in bed.
5. If a woman is still getting that side-long glance from men standing next to her on an elevator, a vibe that say, "hmm. You look good", she will probably NOT be on a dating site trying to get strange men to tell her how beautiful / cute / attractive she is. She is already getting that "fix" in the real world and, naturally, would be more interested in getting out there in the real world to continue triggering that response in men than sit in a room alone clicking on a keyboard to scrounge it up. The women you meet on those dating sites are generally a couple of years past the expiration date on triggering that vibe from men in the real world for various reasons. And that is why they have turned to the dating site as a source for it.
5. 1. If your immediate response when you get a first face-to-face meeting with a woman is, "Gee, she so attractive, I wonder why she needs to go on a dating site to find a man. ", you have probably met a woman with a plan to bamboozle you out of as much "emergency" rent, phone bill, electric bill, medical bill expenses as possible before you catch on and dump her. That doesn't mean that you can't instead work out an ersatz P4P relationship with the "student" or the "single mom" that is perfectly rewarding for both of you for a while. I have converted a couple of those into fun times for me. But it will still come down to you paying her for sex and probably quite a bit more in the long run than if you had just gone to a go-go bar to meet a hottie.ET,
I don't have this experience, as have a long term GF, but it all makes logical sense and it seems very believable. Its like everything you say is what I would probably guess to be the case, except maybe I would expect less girls to be willing to fuck straight away and more girls to have more old fashioned values, even though using a very modern approach to dating.
I recently met a classy looking girl that broke up with her man not long, and initially supposedly was not fucking anyone for a period of time. Sent me plenty of messages, and eventually we got to bed. She was enthusiastic, but was a girl very hard to cum indeed. I had to work real hard to get her there. Extremely long DATY was needed, maybe over 30 minutes. She said her previous Farang BF never made her cum at all.
In the end, I thought, Gee my girlfriend has been treating me better lately (more sex and no arguments), cums easy like a steam train (no stopping her), and is actually better looking than the other girl in both face and body. Every day that my GF fucks me, I don't need to go out and get something else. Sex with GF is not boring after 10 years, is bareback of course, just can be infrequent at times. Never need to use any Viagra with this girl. She is a big turn on. Sometimes she even lets me have a sexy shower with her. Soaped each other up today (but don't get this too often).
Any time I want to monger, I want something quick and easy (meaning not too long lead time) with condom, but I don't want to step down in looks quality from the GF. I really think Dating Apps are not for me. I need to see the real thing in the flesh preferably naked, for a time before choosing was is really hot and pretty, and exciting me.
I guess seeing girl live on LINE App video would be the thing to see what the girl really looks like, right? Does this normally happen.
Mr Enternational
10-01-15, 18:43
I guess seeing girl live on LINE App video would be the thing to see what the girl really looks like, right? Does this normally happen.Unless I am missing something there is no live video on Line. You need Skype, Tango, or Viber for that. I don't ask to see a girl on video first. I am usually on the fly and don't have time for such things anyway. But there are different strokes for different folks. My girlfriend sends me pictures everyday whether I am in town or not. She will leave my place and go to work and send pictures. And I am thinking why do you send all these damn pictures everyday. Of course I would not say that to her though. That is her thing so I just let it be.
You also have to remember that a video only tells part of the story. For one you really can't see if someone has fucked up teeth. You also can not tell little weird stuff about folks that you may be sensitive to.
I was dating a girl in Barranquilla, Colombia and one of her friends met an Australian guy online. They professed their love for each other and the guy soon went off to the boring city of Barranquilla. Well what he did not know from the video is that there was something wrong with the way this girl walked. Lo and behold, he ended up not being in love with her after all and spent most of his trip without her after meeting in person.
Horny Landoora
10-01-15, 19:39
Well since I brought this topic up everyone has had a say so far which has been informative and added to a general understanding. I have been on TF over the past one week or so and probably have had around 30 girls respond to me from various age groups. Just to clarify I am fairly young in my early 30's. I have not actually met any of these girls yet. I would meet probably only 3 or 4 of them when I visit next. The average age of the girls I have interacted with is 25. I know a girl even whose 19 and a lady of 38!
I have been chatting with them on Line APP and they have been sending me their photographs. I have had a video chat with some of them on Line as well. Majority of these girls use filters in their pics and touch up through some apps to hide their blemishes or look fair or better. So as some one said they might not actually look 100% as their pics when you meet them but by no means are they ugly. They just want too look too good I suppose. The safest bet is to do a video chat and you would get a fair idea of how they look in real or just ask for a selfie on the spot without any filters if you have doubts. Although nothing is really 100% till you meet them which you have to accept as part of these apps.
I made it clear to all of them that I don't live in Thailand nor am I looking for a thai wife. I am just looking for friends and companions. By companion I don't mean a sex buddy or paying them off for service. So they know upfront what they are getting into and things with me might not be really serious.
What I get out of chatting with few of them over the past few days is that there is some fascination with farangs that these women have which brings them to TF. Surely some are looking for money or a sugar daddy but some of them are actually looking to have a good experience as well with someone who they can relate to. Some of them are looking for husbands and settle down.
Majority of girls I interacted with are cute and they are well settled in their work field, as they say, so its not that all are gold diggers. Some are bored with thai men and believe they can get a Farang to actually please or woo them them probably by being more charming as they see in Romantic movies and also making passionate love which they might have seen in porn. Strangely two or three of them they are fascinated with size of cocks as probably Thai men are not well endowed (no offense).
As for intimacy, infact most of them have send me their naked pics and hot pics just after a day or two of chatting so I have no doubt that probably after a date I can take them straight to the room. I am not a casanova so I feel that most of them are also horny and just want to have a good time if they seem to like a guy. Maybe not really a one night stand but somewhat the friend with benefit concept. Yes I can't comment that what would happen after I actually sleep with one as that has not happened yet. But someone said they would then probably use that to their advantage and show their colors by asking for help but It is how smart you are to tackle such situation.
All in all it depends what one is looking for. Someone pointed out that as is human nature that you would probably leave one anticipating a better one to look out for next. I feel So this applies to the girls as well and I am sure if I am chatting to 30 girls at one go then she might also be chatting to 10 guys by keeping her option open.
Some people have fallen for Bar girls even and we have read about the experiences of how the girls use this to their advantage. Well, with things not so good in Thailand at present with the economy one can't blame an average Thai girl / lady if she's trying to use TF to really get what she wants! If you find love out of this, it is good but there is no harm in also finding a friend whom you can spend some time with and enjoy if you wish. This could also be risky if you are married or going steady with a GF as these girls can be demanding for your time and attention on the APP by messaging you and probably if this is not your cup of tea, then as we know there are thousands of girls who will simply do you for money at various parlours, soapies or clubs without the whole routine.
Unless I am missing something there is no live video on Line.LINE gives you the option of making a call or a video call. I've had several video calls with a girl I met last trip while I've been home.
Blanquiceleste
10-02-15, 01:18
Unless I am missing something there is no live video on Line. You need Skype, Tango, or Viber for that. I don't ask to see a girl on video first. I am usually on the fly and don't have time for such things anyway. But there are different strokes for different folks. My girlfriend sends me pictures everyday whether I am in town or not. She will leave my place and go to work and send pictures. And I am thinking why do you send all these damn pictures everyday. Of course I would not say that to her though. That is her thing so I just let it be.
You also have to remember that a video only tells part of the story. For one you really can't see if someone has fucked up teeth. You also can not tell little weird stuff about folks that you may be sensitive to.
I was dating a girl in Barranquilla, Colombia and one of her friends met an Australian guy online. They professed their love for each other and the guy soon went off to the boring city of Barranquilla. Well what he did not know from the video is that there was something wrong with the way this girl walked. Lo and behold, he ended up not being in love with her after all and spent most of his trip without her after meeting in person.For one, LINE does have video call facility. And I totally agree with you that many of us may not have the time or inclination to indulge in such activities as check photos carefully for flaws or watch videos in HD for any potential surprises. One has to remember that the girl will also be putting up her best act when she is sending a pic or getting on a video call. Don't we do it at a conference call?
The videos and pics give you an added sense of security that you "know" the girl you are about to meet. But nothing can replace the actual time spent in the interview or the first date (I may call that a date).
Unless I am missing something there is no live video on Line.
I was dating a girl in Barranquilla, Colombia and one of her friends met an Australian guy online. They professed their love for each other and the guy soon went off to the boring city of Barranquilla. Well what he did not know from the video is that there was something wrong with the way this girl walked. Lo and behold, he ended up not being in love with her after all and spent most of his trip without her after meeting in person.Sure LINE has Video Call where What's App does not. LINE video is clearer than Skype if have a good connection but seems to stop or drop out more often than Skype. Skype uses heavy Gigabytes.
I don't see why would not see the teeth, maybe not in sharp focus. Amazing teeth is not that important to me, although my GF coincidentally has reasonably nice looking teeth.
Anyone that "falls in love" online is pretty dumb IMHO, and anyone in love after just a few weeks is also kidding themselves. Could be totalling sexually incompatible for example. Some of my relationships failed due to sexual incompatibility. Don't see that a strange walk is the most important aspect at all. I believe I would take a girl with a limp no problem if everything else was great. I don't know any stunning girls with a limp so it's a bit academic. I have met a girl with some major non-perfection that did not put me off at all.
Anyone that falls in love very quickly will also fall out of love very quickly. It's not "real" for me. Fast love is for young people I guess. Last time I was starting to fall for a girl after a few months including fabulous sex, it wasn't too devastating that she found another younger and richer man. Obviously I wasn't too far gone on her, even she was very special. We are still in contact and I still feel a lot of desire for her, just not to a crazy level. If she becomes unsatisfied with her new "husband", I am still around. LOL.
ET,
I don't have this experience, as have a long term GF, but it all makes logical sense and it seems very believable. Its like everything you say is what I would probably guess to be the case, except maybe I would expect less girls to be willing to fuck straight away and more girls to have more old fashioned values, even though using a very modern approach to dating.
I recently met a classy looking girl that broke up with her man not long, and initially supposedly was not fucking anyone for a period of time. Sent me plenty of messages, and eventually we got to bed. She was enthusiastic, but was a girl very hard to cum indeed. I had to work real hard to get her there. Extremely long DATY was needed, maybe over 30 minutes. She said her previous Farang BF never made her cum at all.
In the end, I thought, Gee my girlfriend has been treating me better lately (more sex and no arguments), cums easy like a steam train (no stopping her), and is actually better looking than the other girl in both face and body. Every day that my GF fucks me, I don't need to go out and get something else. Sex with GF is not boring after 10 years, is bareback of course, just can be infrequent at times. Never need to use any Viagra with this girl. She is a big turn on. Sometimes she even lets me have a sexy shower with her. Soaped each other up today (but don't get this too often)..Syzygies,
I can relate to the occasional hard labor cum girl. Although I would bet, like me, you have found that is somewhat rare with Thai girls. But it does happen. Have you noticed how relatively easy it is for Thai girls to cum compared with Western girls? Especially when we DATY? But at a certain point with some women, we just have to let it go and accept the fact that, after we have tried virtually every trick in the book, given her a variety of techniques in terms of DATY, fingers, toes, boom-boom from this or that angle for this long or this deep and the opposite of all of that, all the while being especially attentive to signs of encouragement for this way or resistance to that way, in the end the woman's orgasm is her responsibility, not ours. If there is a magic button to push a certain way for a certain amount of time, she will simply have to declassify those state secrets. We love to deliver orgasms and do our best to deliver them exquisitely. But if it just isn't in the woman to orgasm in the presence of another person, or ever, it is best to stop trying and leave it to her to deal with, which she may never bother to do.
Funny thing is, a couple of the absolute most devoted and loving women I have ever been with are two that I more or less gave up trying to make cum. One is a girl I see quite often. She is always smiling, always happy, great fun to be with, pleasures me to perfection orally, boom boom, any way I want. She Line's me multiple times per day, is always there for me at the drop of a hint I'd like to see her. Yet she is one of the most non orgasmic women I have ever known. And she seems delighted to have it that way and make it all about my pleasure instead. Well. OK. All good.
On your question about video chats on Line normally happening or not, I would say it is more common for the girl to request an on-the-spot photo of me rather than video. Although the video chat does happen occasionally. I think Thai girls on these dating sites tend to prefer the exchange of photos rather than a live video because a live video puts pressure on them to speak English during the video as well. My experience has been that, unless the girl is very fluent in English, she is more comfortable exchanging on-the-spot photos and typing out a chat instead of trying to understand your English and speaking English herself during a video chat.
Blanquiceleste
10-02-15, 12:26
If she becomes unsatisfied with her new "husband", I am still around. LOL.Reminds of Barney in How I Met Your Mother where says "Together, we will own this city. Anytime a girl wants to get back at her ex-boyfriends, we'll be there. Anytime a girl wants to solve her father issues through promiscuity and binge drinking, we will be there. Anytime a bachelorette party drives through the city in a limo, sticking their heads out the sunroof, shouting, "What's up, New York," we will be what is up New York. " Hyuk!
Syzygies,
I can relate to the occasional hard labor cum girl. Although I would bet, like me, you have found that is somewhat rare with Thai girls. But it does happen. Have you noticed how relatively easy it is for Thai girls to cum compared with Western girls? Especially when we DATY? But at a certain point with some women, we just have to let it go and accept the fact that, after we have tried virtually every trick in the book, given her a variety of techniques in terms of DATY, fingers, toes, boom-boom from this or that angle for this long or this deep and the opposite of all of that, all the while being especially attentive to signs of encouragement for this way or resistance to that way, in the end the woman's orgasm is her responsibility, not ours. If there is a magic button to push a certain way for a certain amount of time, she will simply have to declassify those state secrets. We love to deliver orgasms and do our best to deliver them exquisitely. But if it just isn't in the woman to orgasm in the presence of another person, or ever, it is best to stop trying and leave it to her to deal with, which she may never bother to do.
Funny thing is, a couple of the absolute most devoted and loving women I have ever been with are two that I more or less gave up trying to make cum. One is a girl I see quite often. She is always smiling, always happy, great fun to be with, pleasures me to perfection orally, boom boom, any way I want. She Line's me multiple times per day, is always there for me at the drop of a hint I'd like to see her. Yet she is one of the most non orgasmic women I have ever known. And she seems delighted to have it that way and make it all about my pleasure instead. Well. OK. All good.
On your question about video chats on Line normally happening or not, I would say it is more common for the girl to request an on-the-spot photo of me rather than video. Although the video chat does happen occasionally. I think Thai girls on these dating sites tend to prefer the exchange of photos rather than a live video because a live video puts pressure on them to speak English during the video as well. My experience has been that, unless the girl is very fluent in English, she is more comfortable exchanging on-the-spot photos and typing out a chat instead of trying to understand your English and speaking English herself during a video chat.In my case English would not be a problem since I speak Thai much better than most girls can speak English. So Thai is my natural language of choice even with girls good at English.
I am very persistant. I hate too loose with a girl. So I have very good stamina to try DATY for a very long time, trying different styles till see which way she seems to respond most to. Very few girls will give verbal signs that we are hitting just the right spot. I am old and have a lot of experience and was well trained by a Thai girl 20+ years ago. I usually only fail with Thai girls if she just doesn't want it. I agree Farang girls are more difficult overall and some Thai girls are extremely sensitive indeed to extent that just two minutes of good DATY can make them explode. Typically these are not hookers. However Mai in Can Cam was so sensitive I believed she had 4 orgasms in our session. She is a newbie not yet jaded.
With this topic we risk Dan coming in and teaching us his hand girl wanking technique yet again. He is obviously a hand specialist where I am a DATY specialist. Sometimes I use both.
One Farang girl I had this year needed to smoke during Daty in order to cum. Thought that was funny.
Most hookers find it unexpected that I am a customer and yet willing to give very extended Daty up to 30 mins. Most guys are not going that far I believe. Breathing enough air can be a problem in very long non stop Daty.
Tongue is a very powerful organ with endless stamina. Jaw gets tired long before. BBBJ can be very tiring for girls not used to it. Non hookers.
Breathing enough air can be a problem in very long non stop Daty. A nice compliment I received for providing extended oral services rendered: 'It helps to be able to breathe thru your ears'.
Wolvenvacht
10-02-15, 21:04
IWith this topic we risk Dan coming in and teaching us his hand girl wanking technique yet again.A "well lubricated hand", if I remember correctly.
...Most hookers find it unexpected that I am a customer and yet willing to give very extended Daty up to 30 mins. Most guys are not going that far I believe. Breathing enough air can be a problem in very long non stop Daty.
Tongue is a very powerful organ with endless stamina. Jaw gets tired long before. BBBJ can be very tiring for girls not used to it. Non hookers.The key to my enduring, even enjoying extended expert DATY sessions as well as the girl being much more comfortable about giving extended BJ sessions is body position. In fact, it is key to enjoying even short bouts of either act, IMO.
The typical position one assumes to deliver DATY, in a bed, laying on your stomach between the girl's legs while she lays on her back, is not very conducive to a comfortable DATY experience, extended or brief. You are generally propped up a bit on your elbows, meaning one hand might be available for assist but rarely both at the same time. Even if you get creative with a pillow or two you're still hyper-extending your back, gravity is working against you in terms of your upper body mass.
So too with the typical positions a girl assumes while giving you a BJ. If she and you more or less reverse the above positions, now she is propping herself up with one or two elbows, with the added problem of dealing with her hair unless she has enough forethought to pin it back (or you have asked her to). Again, gravity is working against her on her upper body and head. About two minutes in, expect most girls to exhibit some discomfort in their shoulders and neck area. Often they will do so because they know from past experience that this position is pretty horrible after 10 or 15 minutes so they are trying to signal this better end sooner rather than later, bud. And if she is kneeling in front of you, there is the sore knees problem.
A much better alternative for the DATY / BJ experience is to make sure the room you are in has a sturdy vanity table or a desk and an arm chair that fits under it. Also a couple of small ottomans are invaluable for this and other sexual position purposes. Most decent hotel rooms have the vanity table / desk and chair option, although many only offer a stool or non arm chair to go with it. However, unfortunately, very few Short Time rooms whose purpose is specifically to provide a place for sexual frolics rather than a good night's sleep rarely do. And virtually no BJ bars in the city offer this kind of furniture option in their BJ cubicles and rooms. Strange. You can be certain the smoothie Love Apartment is fully equipped with a great one! Haha.
The idea then is for the person getting a BJ or on the being eaten side of DATY to sit on the vanity table or desk (preferably on a couple of pillows), legs apart, feet anchored firmly on the arms of that chair, while the person performing the act sits in that chair and digs in with mouth and, if so desired, both hands. No gravity issues, no sore elbows, no sore knees issue, no hair falling in front of the girl's face while she is blowing you. And the person doing the work can sit there and tease the recipient along for a very, very long time before the shattering climax, in relative comfort.
The above vanity table / desk and arm chair set up works especially well for receiving blowjobs, I assure you. It is a much better position for the girl to be in while giving a BJ and it works much better for me than laying flat on my back in a bed. But for delivering DATY, I do prefer to have the girl sitting close to the edge of the bed, her back and head resting on a mountain of pillows behind her, while I kneel on a pillow on the floor between her legs. But what about her dangling feet you may ask? That is where those two small ottomans come in handy. Place them on each side of you next to the bed directly under her feet and you're both good to go. Yes, in this case I am kneeling. But I find that my kneeling for an extended period of time on a pillow for this particular act is not nearly the hardship that extended kneeling appears to be for a girl giving a blowjob. So I am OK with that.
A vanity table or desk can be had for less than 1000 Baht. And even the cheap plastic patio type arm chairs you find at Big see are fine for this purpose. A couple of small ottomans, the kind that double as collapsible storage boxes, can be had for less than 300 Baht each. The entire expense for a ton of flexible sexual usage (the ottomans also come in handy for bedside doggie position boom boom! So for a one time expense of about 1500 Baht every Short Time room and every BJ bar cubicle in the city could be supplied with items that really and truly can provide a variety of far more comfortable and effective options for giving and receiving DATY and BJs, as well as FS.
Yet almost none of the owners of those venues bother to do it or even give it a thought. Too bad really. A bed or couch, not matter how plush, does not qualify for providing a pleasant environment or set up for great DATY and BJs, IMO. If I ever walked into a Short Time room or a BJ bar cubicle and saw a vanity table / desk and arm chair along with a couple of small ottomans I would know the owners of this venue are really thinking about what they are trying to provide the customer with rather than only coming up with the bare minimum bed and floor or couch and floor options.
ET,
Thanks for a different report. I rarely find I have the right equipmemt at hand for a relaxed DATY. I will try your advice whenever possible. I have had a girl on an armchair but there was no desk.
Some girls know how to swivel their hips to make it easy and some make it really hard. I don't even have the right furniture set up at home. Maybe can manage it in a hotel room.
I like to DATY my girls while I'm standing but you do need some strength to get them raised up above your head. The newfound sense of such height while being eaten out really brings out the orgasms. And if they tend to kick too much I position myself under the ceiling fan.
The key to my enduring, even enjoying extended expert DATY sessions as well as the girl being much more comfortable about giving extended BJ sessions is body position. In fact, it is key to enjoying even short bouts of either act, IMO.Don't forget the reliable 69 position with the girl lying comfortably flat on her back, her head resting on 1 or 2 pillows, legs spread wide and bent at the knees, while you straddle her face on all fours, both hands free to roam, with comfortable access to all her pussy parts, and your dick dangling into her mouth where she can pleasure it for a long time in total comfort. The girl's love it and so do I.
The key to my enduring, even enjoying extended expert DATY sessions as well as the girl being much more comfortable about giving extended BJ sessions is body position. In fact, it is key to enjoying even short bouts of either act, IMO.Agreed! The Playboy Hotel has always had those gyno chairs, but lack another chair to sit it. Most ST hotels and Oily / Soapy rooms are not equipped properly either. Perhaps you could become a consultant!
Agreed! The Playboy Hotel has always had those gyno chairs, but lack another chair to sit it. Most ST hotels and Oily / Soapy rooms are not equipped properly either. Perhaps you could become a consultant!Wow. I am pleased and, frankly, surprised to see several posters appreciating my "proper DATY / BJ-giving and receiving furniture set up" observations. I honestly expected to read recommendations to "get a life", "who cares if there is any furniture in the room? "I'm fine with a BJ even while straddling a picket fence in a wind storm" type posts. Haha. I clearly underestimated the understanding and attention given to detail in these matters by this esteemed group.
Dr. BJ's Salon makes the same mistake with their set up as the Playboy Hotel you mentioned. There is a nice comfy chair (except for one cubicle that has a chair that is fixed in a reclining position way too extreme. I avoid that particular cubicle at all costs), but only one small stool for the customer to rest only one foot on. If the good Dr would just see fit to put two small stools in his Salon's cubicles along with a place for the girl to sit a bit more comfortably between the customer's legs, that customer would also have a much better place to anchor BOTH feet instead of having his legs dangle uncomfortably off the edge of the chair. I assume the percentage of two-legged customer over one-legged customer in the place is quite substantial.
I know of only one BJ bar environment in Bangkok where it appears someone gave at least passing consideration to what might be a better body position for the customer when getting a blowjob and for the girl giving a blowjob other than simply a bed and the floor or a chair and the floor. That is one of the VIP rooms in Magic Table on Soi 7/1. In at least one of their VIP rooms there is couch that is elevated because it rests on top of two large ottomans. The ottomans stick out beyond the edge of the couch enough to offer a place for the customer to anchor his feet (or they can be scooted out enough to do so before the festivities commence) and there is a space between the two ottomans for the girl to kneel or to sit on a third ottoman available in the room. The slight elevation of the couch puts the man's package at just about the right face level for the girl kneeling or sitting before him without her having to scrunch over in the usual gravity-battling position. And the two support ottomans can be scooted further apart or closer together to suit the preference of the customer.
But that is the only BJ room / cubicle or Short Time room in the city that I am aware of where it appears the designer made an effort to provide something that might actually make getting and giving a blowjob more comfortable and, ultimately, more pleasurable beyond "here is your chair, there's the floor, go for it. "
Don't forget the reliable 69 position with the girl lying comfortably flat on her back, her head resting on 1 or 2 pillows, legs spread wide and bent at the knees, while you straddle her face on all fours, both hands free to roam, with comfortable access to all her pussy parts, and your dick dangling into her mouth where she can pleasure it for a long time in total comfort. The girl's love it and so do I.I wish I enjoyed the 69 position that much as I agree with you that some of the logistical problems are solved by going that route. But my problem with it is it puts her tongue on the wrong side of my dick, the top side, rather than the underside where I much prefer it to be.
I wish I enjoyed the 69 position that much as I agree with you that some of the logistical problems are solved by going that route. But my problem with it is it puts her tongue on the wrong side of my dick, the top side, rather than the underside where I much prefer it to be.I do use 69 position, or just an upside down DATY at times. Some girls are scared of finger nails so not so keen on fingers in pussy. However I have a big nose fingernail free. Some girls get off on DATY quicker with nose deep in pussy stimulating the upper vaginal wall close to the G spot. Cannot breathe through the nose in this circumstance of course, so side of mouth snatched breathes.
If want a good BBBJ concurrently in 69, generally better to have girl on top and my head on a pillow folded double.
Agreed! The Playboy Hotel has always had those gyno chairs, but lack another chair to sit it. Most ST hotels and Oily / Soapy rooms are not equipped properly either. Perhaps you could become a consultant!Strange that Dr BJ, run by a farang with good knowledge of mongering and action has not arranged for something like that.
I think their chairs are more "barber type".
If want a good BBBJ concurrently in 69, generally better to have girl on top and my head on a pillow folded double.I agree. If you are on top she might get too much of a DT and might not get her comfortable.
Strange that Dr BJ, run by a farang with good knowledge of mongering and action has not arranged for something like that.
I think their chairs are more "barber type".Have to say I don't like the Dr B.J. Chairs. Only tried once or twice. VIP room including bodyslide mattress and bed was more my thing. I am more of an interactive type.
I bought a nice quality collapsable umbrella, strong, OS recently. Did not stay with me long before a close family member needed it more than me. Can anyone recommend where to buy good quality collapsables in Bangkok which can stand a bit of wind and last a while? I don't want the large long umbrellas in the case, nor ones that go rusty quickly.
I want the price to medium. Not "el cheapos", but not too ridiculous.
It's like my Thai girls don't know where to get a good one and therefore want the nice one I bought OS.
Have to say I don't like the Dr B.J. Chairs. Only tried once or twice. VIP room including bodyslide mattress and bed was more my thing. I am more of an interactive type.I can agree but then this would be a "normal" massage place. If it "has to be" a BJ joint, then that should be, nothing less, nothing more. Equipped as such. Servicing as such.
Just as a BJ bar should not be based on upstairs rooms, VIP rooms, oily etc. At the most it could foresee stalls in the background for some limited privacy during the action.
I bought a nice quality collapsable umbrella, strong, OS recently. Did not stay with me long before a close family member needed it more than me. Can anyone recommend where to buy good quality collapsables in Bangkok which can stand a bit of wind and last a while? I don't want the large long umbrellas in the case, nor ones that go rusty quickly.
I want the price to medium. Not "el cheapos", but not too ridiculous.
It's like my Thai girls don't know where to get a good one and therefore want the nice one I bought OS.The smallest one I've bought has now survived three Thailand Rainy Seasons and is still going strong. I think it was about 350 Baht. It can easily fit in a cargo pants pocket. During Rainy Season, when it is cool enough to wear long pants and shoes requiring socks, I usually stuff it into my sock, behind my (long) pants leg, next to my ankle. Then there is no bulge, it is virtually invisible, no carrying it around, and ready when needed. The trademark name I see on it is Pop & Pro. I bought it on the 4th floor of Tokyu department store in MBK, next to the escalators. But I've seen them for sale in other places around the city, just can't be sure where now.
I can agree but then this would be a "normal" massage place. If it "has to be" a BJ joint, then that should be, nothing less, nothing more. Equipped as such. Servicing as such.
Just as a BJ bar should not be based on upstairs rooms, VIP rooms, oily etc. At the most it could foresee stalls in the background for some limited privacy during the action.No flexibility at all. Does anyone actually like the Dr BJ chairs? Any other BJ place I have tried has more flexible furniture for me. However Dr BJ possibly deliberately does not want any flexibility. Generally I care only about the girls, but if furniture makes me feel uncomfortable, it does not add to the overall subconscious will to return. I can't imagine being back in one of those contraptions.
If I get the hots for a girl, I always desire more than a simple Blow. If I go back to Lolly Lita shop for Anne, I will want everything with her hot body.
No flexibility at all. Does anyone actually like the Dr BJ chairs? Any other BJ place I have tried has more flexible furniture for me. However Dr BJ possibly deliberately does not want any flexibility. Generally I care only about the girls, but if furniture makes me feel uncomfortable, it does not add to the overall subconscious will to return. I can't imagine being back in one of those contraptions.
If I get the hots for a girl, I always desire more than a simple Blow. If I go back to Lolly Lita shop for Anne, I will want everything with her hot body.Maybe I dint explain well when I wrote "equipped as such", I meant of course with appropriate furniture "state of the art".
What you mention, and I don't object on your liking, is a more advanced room furnished for different needs, from the BJ char to a nice bed for. I don't think it is th format Dr BJ has in mind, as that would be a different type of place.
The way I see Dr BJ, the original, is a "quick plumbing service" or a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) with out the hassle or the self cheating of a bar, with drinks etc.
What you have in mind is a bit more sophisticated place. Like Macau's sauna, where some of them have a specifically designed bed or the B2 B nuru sliding, never seen it elsewhere.
Fooolishman
10-21-15, 00:18
Does anyone know of a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a CD. I have a nice collection of 50's /60's tapes. I can play these in my old car.
With a cassette player but my newer car only plays CD's.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
FM
Mr Enternational
10-21-15, 03:42
Does anyone know of a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a CD. I have a nice collection of 50's /60's tapes. I can play these in my old car.
With a cassette player but my newer car only plays CD's.So you want to change one form of outdated technology to another form of outdated technology? Do they even still make CDs? Time to move to MP3 brother. Your entire collection can fit on a memory card that is smaller than your fingernail.
No flexibility at all. Does anyone actually like the Dr BJ chairs? Any other BJ place I have tried has more flexible furniture for me. However Dr BJ possibly deliberately does not want any flexibility.I would like those chairs in Dr. BJ just fine if there were two, not one, small footstools in the room on which I could anchor my feet, each on either side of the girl blowing me. But, alas, the good Doctor apparently cannot afford to supply them. It would probably be about 500 baht or less for each small footstool.
However, there is or was a chair in one of the cubicles that is reclined too far back, virtually in flat-on-your-back recline position, and cannot be set upright. Intolerable for me. If someone was unlucky enough to be taken to that particular cubicle on a first visit, he might think all of Dr. BJ's chairs are like that. They are not.
In fact, that chair and the way my favorite girl, EE, dealt with my problem with it has kept me away from Dr. BJ's Salon for almost two years now, even though EE no longer works there. LOL.
EE was generally very good about making sure her regular customers, as I was, would not be saddled with that horrible chair in that cubicle. She would wait a few minutes if necessary until another cubicle was freed up. However, this one time the place was very busy, she didn't want to wait 5 or 10 minutes for another cubicle to free up and she took me to that one. I gave it the old' college try, but there is essentially no backrest to that chair since it is reclined so far back. After 10 excruciating minutes of balancing myself on the edge of that chair, my legs dangling without support below (no footstools, remember), I told her it wasn't working for me in this position and she just stopped, did not offer to move to another room, was OK with me not finishing at all, sorry about that, and off I went. For almost two years so far. LOL. I haven't returned since.
LittleBigMan
10-21-15, 11:02
So you want to change one form of outdated technology to another form of outdated technology? Do they even still make CDs? Time to move to MP3 brother. Your entire collection can fit on a memory card that is smaller than your fingernail.Mr. E, what you say is correct what you miss in his post? "Old Car" and "New Car plays only CD".
Mr Enternational
10-21-15, 16:04
Mr. E, what you say is correct what you miss in his post? "Old Car" and "New Car plays only CD".Good to see you back.
Most new cars have the AUX IN jack where you can connect your mp3 player. There is also a cassette tape adapter to use for his old car. I had been using one for about 10 years until I finally put a new radio in my car a few months ago.
Fooolishman
10-21-15, 17:22
Good to see you back.
Most new cars have the AUX IN jack where you can connect your mp3 player. There is also a cassette tape adapter to use for his old car. I had been using one for about 10 years until I finally put a new radio in my car a few months ago.Sorry my question was stated incorrectly. My new care is actually 7 years old. Not hardly a new car but it is newer than my older car. Sorry for my error.
Thanks,
FM
LittleBigMan
10-22-15, 01:38
Good to see you back.
Most new cars have the AUX IN jack where you can connect your mp3 player. There is also a cassette tape adapter to use for his old car. I had been using one for about 10 years until I finally put a new radio in my car a few months ago.That is why you are the Mr. E, my car here has a MP3, too old and scare to even touch the button.
MichaelSamuel
10-22-15, 03:32
Another good option is a simple radio adapter. Plugs into walkman and then sends out mini radio signal at like 88.1 FM so you just tune your radio and are in business. Used one of these for years as devices change but adapter works for all in any car. Needs separate batteries, but not a big deal.
Does anyone know of a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a CD. I have a nice collection of 50's /60's tapes. I can play these in my old car.
With a cassette player but my newer car only plays CD's.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
FM
Banana Boi
10-22-15, 03:40
Just searched and you can buy a cassette deck that plugs in to your computer via USB and converts to CDS or MP3's. They're about $100 US. Otherwise I'm sure someone at MBK can easily do this for you for a nominal rate.
LittleBigMan
10-22-15, 08:08
Does anyone know of a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a CD. I have a nice collection of 50's /60's tapes. I can play these in my old car.
With a cassette player but my newer car only plays CD's.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
FMHere is the guy original posting! He does not want any machine etc. He wants " a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a see. The. ! Nothing else!
Fooolishman
10-22-15, 21:35
Here is the guy original posting! He does not want any machine etc. He wants " a place in BKK that can transfer the old cassette music tapes to a see. The. ! Nothing else!Thanks LB. You hit it on the head. I would like to be able to play.
The tapes in CD form in my 7 year old car that has a CD player as original equipment. Thanks to all who tried to help.
FM
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I am seeking some help re. Pills named Lyrica, used to treat acute sciatic nerve pain. Anyone is familiar with the medicine / pharmaceutical industry in Thailand maybe can suggest a substitute similar to Lyrica? It's really expensive here in the EU, week supply goes for around 2000 baht.
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
10-30-15, 10:27
I am seeking some help re. Pills named Lyrica, used to treat acute sciatic nerve pain. Anyone is familiar with the medicine / pharmaceutical industry in Thailand maybe can suggest a substitute similar to Lyrica? It's really expensive here in the EU, week supply goes for around 2000 baht.
Thanks.Generic name pregabalin. That appears to be some heavy stuff. If it is available then you are sure to need a prescription from a doctor to get it.
Generic name pregabalin. That appears to be some heavy stuff. If it is available then you are sure to need a prescription from a doctor to get it.For this stuff you need help from doctor. Used this medicine about 6 yrs ago. Did a medical examination at Bumrungrad. They found my real problem and have not used Lyrica ever since.
But if you need Lyrica for sure you need to see a doctor-even in Thailand.
For this stuff you need help from doctor. Used this medicine about 6 yrs ago. Did a medical examination at Bumrungrad. They found my real problem and have not used Lyrica ever since.
But if you need Lyrica for sure you need to see a doctor-even in Thailand.The good news though is a doctor's appointment is relatively cheap in Bangkok. I used to go to Bumrungrad but now prefer Bangkok Hospital, although it is not as conveniently located. Both are certified by the Joint Commission International.
I am seeking some help re. Pills named Lyrica, used to treat acute sciatic nerve pain. Anyone is familiar with the medicine / pharmaceutical industry in Thailand maybe can suggest a substitute similar to Lyrica? It's really expensive here in the EU, week supply goes for around 2000 baht.
Thanks.You probably don't want to hear it, but speaking from much experience, surgery is the way to go. Not fun, but being off pain meds and being able to get around pain-free is worth the effort.
Much appreciated guys, upon my next visit to Bkk I will make a few tests in hospital including a scan, guess there's a hospital that specialize only in back pain issues.
You probably don't want to hear it, but speaking from much experience, surgery is the way to go. Not fun, but being off pain meds and being able to get around pain-free is worth the effort.
LittleBigMan
11-01-15, 06:45
Here is my long 2 cents.
From personal experience. Over 40 years years ago I came down with my first lower back muscle spasms. Because I was very active and never experience any like this before couldn't even bend down and tie my shoe laces. I did basically a term paper on this subject and what I found I do not think it has change much in 40 years and that is surgery should only be done when you finally hit the end of the road.
From your last commend, if you haven't even seen a Doctor, had a x-ray, etc. And you are looking or taking medication as strong as what you are looking for that is not a very good sign. Lucky from my work, family member who is a Orthopedic surgeon, another who was a physical therapist with the S. F. Niner's in the 70's I was able to get treated and educated by some of the best Doctors in the country including the Doctor who operated on Joe Montana the Quarterback for the Niner's only after months of elevation and Physical Therapy.
What I found out in my own case my problem would be with me for the rest of my life but as long as I follow the recommended physical therapy I could manage my pain so I could pretty much could live a normal live without taking any medication. Through the years I had a number of relapses told I might be at the end of the road but whenever I heard the word surgery I work my ass off to stay away from it. The final big blow to my spine was being hit accidently by a malfunction aircraft door latch that cause the door to slam down on my forehead. When I woke up in the hospital still seeing the stars I was told if I was a inch taller I would have been dead. Aside from the conclusion my spine told a big blow it basically crush my spine. Although I had feeling and movements on my lower legs my sciatic was lock blocking off circulation to my left leg. For a week I went through Physical Therapy, saw a Chiropractor, had Acupuncture I did it all everyday to try to unlock the nerve. The Doctors told me I only had a few days left because my leg now was swelling and turning blue. If by days end nothing work, they would put me on traction and if that didn't work surgery. It was also my last day to see the Chiropractor for the last remaining disc, he strapped me in and the machine started to rock and bend me and after a minute I and everyone in the room heard a loud pop, thereafter I felt the blood rushing down to my leg.
Since that day again I had relapses but nothing like before because I educated myself about my back and how to lift heavy items which was my profession to keep from going under the knife. Through the years I've seen cases and cases of my fellow workers taking bad advise and taking the easy way out and had surgery non of them ever return to work.
The easy way out is taking medication, just open you month drop it in your mouth and swallow and mask the problem! That is what my cousin does. Today he is only 60, had six operation look like he is 90 year old. He is so bad off, he has tons of money but can't get any pussy. He came two years ago to Pattaya, barely could walk down W. S. Not even wanting to pay 5,000 baht would the stunner fuck him not even a top performer from Soi 6, I ask her why she took a runner you make me look bad? She told me when she got to his room she saw 20 plus medication bottles on his night table which scare the shit out of her. Finally, I arrange a top performer for him at his hotel room and I mean top, very understanding of his problems she work his ass off all night fuck him every which way and gave him more sex in one night he has had his whole life. She left him in one piece at 6:00 am, at 6:30 he called me and said he had to go to the hospital he couldn't move. Luckily knowing he was in bad shape we arrange his hotel to be right next door to the International Hospital on Soi 4, In the end, the girl fuck him so much he had muscle spasms. In the end, more pills no mention of Physical Therapy but that is not surprising in the hospitals in Thailand and Bumrungrad is no different! Since returning home he has has two more operations. He has so many track marks from the operation only the old and hard up for money will go with him if he could come to Pattaya but he can't because he is addicted to the medication and is currently in detox. Now his friends and our family are say I'm right that having a operation is to relief the pain and after if the Doctor is still giving him medication to me something is wrong?
You can take the easy way out take a pill, but I suggest you go home and see a Orthopedic Surgeon I highly suggest one from Sport medicine, they take the conservative approach and get a full evaluation instead of popping a pill.
Two years before I left my job, I was ask by my Workmens Compensation department if I wanted to see a Psychiatrist? Never heard of them before I did some research and try to see one at my Sport Medicine Group but they were no openings for two months. I agree to see one recommended by my work. In our first meeting he already had 40 years of history on me. After looking at all the x-rays scans he said to me " I can't fix you but I can help you with your pain so it is more spread out so you would feel better " After two years and each visit didn't seem much he was doing more education than anything and a few exercises after two years of visits I never felt better. The best thing about Thailand are the massages and I've found a person who really knows their stuff and I go 3/4 times a week and that is what has kept the little rabbit hopping!
Before I end, yes long. See a really doctor at home and forget the pills unless you really need it. Doctors here just want to sell you with a expensive new tech procedure.
Just my 2 cents and more.
You probably don't want to hear it, but speaking from much experience, surgery is the way to go. Not fun, but being off pain meds and being able to get around pain-free is worth the effort.It is possible he needs surgery. It's also possible, even likely, he doesn't need surgery. Unless you're an orthopedist, who has examined him, you really can't know whether surgery is the best course of action.
I've been dealing with lower back issues for 25 years. At the beginning, first doctor said surgery was the answer. Second doctor, an Orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine, didn't think so, but wanted to get an opinion from a neurosurgeon.
The neurosurgeon explained my case like this. I could have surgery and I would have some manageable pain every day, but I would lose some flexibility and mobility. The other option was to finish the physical therapy treatment, take care of myself and my back and most days I would be pain free, but occasionally, if I over exerted, I would have extreme pain.
I've had a few episodes in 25 years, usually from over exertion or mishaps at work. In most cases, a few days rest fixes the problem. Haven't used any pain medication for years.
See a doctor or two, get an accurate diagnosis of the problem, then figure out your best path.
FreeWillyBruh
11-01-15, 15:33
Gents,
Returning soon and curious as to how the action is within the little beer bars in the plaza these days. Any one bar to recommend for quantity and recent prices these days.
Thanks!
It is possible he needs surgery. It's also possible, even likely, he doesn't need surgery. Unless you're an orthopedist, who has examined him, you really can't know whether surgery is the best course of action.
I've been dealing with lower back issues for 25 years. At the beginning, first doctor said surgery was the answer. Second doctor, an Orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine, didn't think so, but wanted to get an opinion from a neurosurgeon.
The neurosurgeon explained my case like this. I could have surgery and I would have some manageable pain every day, but I would lose some flexibility and mobility. The other option was to finish the physical therapy treatment, take care of myself and my back and most days I would be pain free, but occasionally, if I over exerted, I would have extreme pain.
I've had a few episodes in 25 years, usually from over exertion or mishaps at work. In most cases, a few days rest fixes the problem. Haven't used any pain medication for years.
See a doctor or two, get an accurate diagnosis of the problem, then figure out your best path.Once they cut you, you'll never be the same for better or for worst. When I was living in BKK, I did chiropractic sessions twice a week, acupuncture twice a week and got a real massage pretty much every day.
Not 100% now but with diet and exercise, my back and neck is much better. Stay off the meds if possible.
LittleBigMan
11-02-15, 06:53
Not against any one of these treatments and my work paid for these treatment for near a year. Although I felt better after each treatment if they are not only into making money they will give you enough information so you can figure it out it is only temporary. In regards to Chiropractic Treatment they can crack and align your spine but you need to strengthen your muscle and build up your core to maintain that alignment. And it is impossible due to the earth constant pressure on your body unless you work those muscle that can hold the alignment it wil only be temporary. In my own case Chiropractic treatment was to unlock but not until the 7th treatment in which the Doctor told me if it doesn't work today that is the end of the road with me. This is pretty much the same with Accupuncture, the treatment relaxes the muscle around the disc and hopefully enough that if you make a sudden turn it would pop loose. Again, especially with backs if you do not do the stretches and strengthen your core it all is temporary and temporary means if your health provider do not pay for it then expensive out of your own pocket. Like medication, these treatment can be addictive over time.
When I was in the States for the money out of your own pocket, a trained license massage person for two hours relaxing one got far more the bang for the buck then any of the above treatment. Today, one might think it is impossible to find a person in Thailand but go enough you will eventually find one that knows what they are doing.
Take up Yoga, it helps and again go see a PHYSIATRIST.
Not against any one of these treatments and my work paid for these treatment for near a year. Although I felt better after each treatment if they are not only into making money they will give you enough information so you can figure it out it is only temporary. In regards to Chiropractic Treatment they can crack and align your spine but you need to strengthen your muscle and build up your core to maintain that alignment. And it is impossible due to the earth constant pressure on your body unless you work those muscle that can hold the alignment it wil only be temporary. In my own case Chiropractic treatment was to unlock but not until the 7th treatment in which the Doctor told me if it doesn't work today that is the end of the road with me. This is pretty much the same with Accupuncture, the treatment relaxes the muscle around the disc and hopefully enough that if you make a sudden turn it would pop loose. Again, especially with backs if you do not do the stretches and strengthen your core it all is temporary and temporary means if your health provider do not pay for it then expensive out of your own pocket. Like medication, these treatment can be addictive over time.
When I was in the States for the money out of your own pocket, a trained license massage person for two hours relaxing one got far more the bang for the buck then any of the above treatment. Today, one might think it is impossible to find a person in Thailand but go enough you will eventually find one that knows what they are doing.
Take up Yoga, it helps and again go see a PHYSIATRIST.
Once they cut you, you'll never be the same for better or for worst. When I was living in BKK, I did chiropractic sessions twice a week, acupuncture twice a week and got a real massage pretty much every day.
Not 100% now but with diet and exercise, my back and neck is much better. Stay off the meds if possible.
It is possible he needs surgery. It's also possible, even likely, he doesn't need surgery. Unless you're an orthopedist, who has examined him, you really can't know whether surgery is the best course of action.
I've been dealing with lower back issues for 25 years. At the beginning, first doctor said surgery was the answer. Second doctor, an Orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine, didn't think so, but wanted to get an opinion from a neurosurgeon.
The neurosurgeon explained my case like this. I could have surgery and I would have some manageable pain every day, but I would lose some flexibility and mobility. The other option was to finish the physical therapy treatment, take care of myself and my back and most days I would be pain free, but occasionally, if I over exerted, I would have extreme pain.
I've had a few episodes in 25 years, usually from over exertion or mishaps at work. In most cases, a few days rest fixes the problem. Haven't used any pain medication for years.
See a doctor or two, get an accurate diagnosis of the problem, then figure out your best path.All very good advice. Definitely have to see a couple of doctors first.
In my case I had a pinched nerve. Sometimes called a "slipped disc" but more accurately a herniated disc. It started, no idea how, when I was 18. It was more or less manageable for a number of years. Around 30 it became very bad. I started seeing a chiropractor regularly and it did wonders. It didn't fix the problem but it postponed surgery for almost 20 years.
I somehow re-aggravated it and it wouldn't get better. No amount of therapy, massage, acupuncture, chiro, etc. , would help. It was the end of the road.
A very good neurosurgeon operated and basically "shaved" the disc down to stop the pressure on the sciatic nerve. End result was that I have no more pain and only need an NSAID on occasion. A bit of residual numbness in one foot, but it's minor.
I had one relapse. I did something that irritated the hell out of the area and it became royally inflamed. The pain was excruciating and the doctor though maybe I'd delaminated the muscle (or whatever they call it). I had been very careful and I know that I didn't do that. An x-ray guided steroid shot fixed the problem and it's been fine for going on 10 years.
However, I continue to see a chiropractor regularly. He says that the most common thing he sees with his surgical patients is that they stop going to him. In terribly ignorant layman's terms, the muscles on either side of the surgery pull in different directions, putting pressure on those discs. A year or so later the patient is back under the knife.
So, whatever that's worth. Definitely need a couple of opinions and surgery is the very last resort. But tranking yourself out on industrial strength meds is no way to go through life.
I had a sciatic nerve pinched due to a slipped disc. I went to a Chiropractor for "Spinal Decompression" treatments Worked wonders for me.
All very good advice. Definitely have to see a couple of doctors first.
In my case I had a pinched nerve. Sometimes called a "slipped disc" but more accurately a herniated disc. It started, no idea how, when I was 18. It was more or less manageable for a number of years. Around 30 it became very bad. I started seeing a chiropractor regularly and it did wonders. It didn't fix the problem but it postponed surgery for almost 20 years.
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Mumbai Guy
11-04-15, 09:16
Does anyone knows where one can get Ultra thin condoms in BKK? Preferably Sagami 0. 01 or 0. 02 or equivalent in Okamoto?
LittleBigMan
11-04-15, 10:09
Does anyone knows where one can get Ultra thin condoms in BKK? Preferably Sagami 0. 01 or 0. 02 or equivalent in Okamoto?You can get Okamoto at majority of the 7/11, Sagami you can get at Boots stores which are like Watsons?
Member #4698
11-04-15, 10:11
Does anyone knows where one can get Ultra thin condoms in BKK? Preferably Sagami 0. 01 or 0. 02 or equivalent in Okamoto?The Sagami 0. 02 size large (black) and original regular (red) are available all over Sukhumvit for 69 baht a piece. Try the pharmacy on the east side of Soi 11 before you come to the Ambassador or the large Chinese run pharmacy on Sukumvit past the gas station situated on the Soi 4 corner. That's the 2nd pharmacy as you walk west on Sukhumvit from Soi 4. I don't know where you can buy Sagami 0. 01's in BKK. I just bought 25 (5 packs) from Amazon. It cost me a small fortune.
Mumbai Guy
11-07-15, 12:03
Thanks for your info. In my last visit I had tried at the bid chinese pharmacy but couldn't get them. Will try on soi-11. Yes 0. 01's are very expensive. But 0. 02's are quite good.
The Sagami 0. 02 size large (black) and original regular (red) are available all over Sukhumvit for 69 baht a piece. Try the pharmacy on the east side of Soi 11 before you come to the Ambassador or the large Chinese run pharmacy on Sukumvit past the gas station situated on the Soi 4 corner. That's the 2nd pharmacy as you walk west on Sukhumvit from Soi 4. I don't know where you can buy Sagami 0. 01's in BKK. I just bought 25 (5 packs) from Amazon. It cost me a small fortune.
You can get Okamoto at majority of the 7/11, Sagami you can get at Boots stores which are like Watsons?
Finding really great quality Japanese Restaurants in Bangkok can be dicey. Some places concentrate on selling booze rather than best food.
There used to a reasonable shop running between Soi 24/1 and Soi 26 that the massage girls knew was good and it was a fun place too. Very busy. Unfortunately the previous occupants could not continue the lease and it is now hopeless under the new occupants (maybe since 5 months already). Overly basic menu (for tourists? Too pricey and food not fresh. On Friday night it was not very busy. There is a very good reason. I realised my mistake fairly quickly, and left. Checked another place around the corner in Sukhumvit road but could see they had exactly the same menu (mass produced somewhere). Then went to look Soi 33/1 where I used to have an old favorite, but most places were closing early (by my standards).
Finally got to Shakariki in Soi Asoke right side if travelling North from Sukhumvit, downstairs and just a little past the first main intersection with traffic lights. Has an "Easter Island" stone head outside. This place was open to either 4 am or 5 am. Quite busy and rowdy inside. Many Japanese and / or Korean type customers which is a good sign. Staff seem to be mainly Isaan but they are in a great friendly mood. It's clearly a fun place.
What is more the food came very quickly and was of the highest quality I have experienced anywhere in Bangkok and that includes a posh Japanese restaurant in Emporium. Extremely fresh fish and every dish was perfection. No faults could be found. My Ume Hai drink tasted great too (I don't drink beer but others did), slightly sweet but tangy and a little fizzy plum wine. One fault I could say was the California Roll type dishes had Crab or Seafood stick as an ingredient, evidently from the pictures. I don't eat that stuff. I stuck with beautiful Sashimis instead, especially Salmon, Tako (really soft Octopus), Unagi, etc. Good quality batter for the Tempura, and cooked just right. Tempura is one of the easiest things to stuff up with old batter or cooked wrong temperature.
So I highly recommend this place. Its an easy walk from Cowboy. You might even recognise the odd girl from Cowboy, in there with a Japanese customer. I recognised Naam from Crazy House even with her clothes on LOL.
My bill was 3000 Baht for a good sized feed for 4 people including not many cheap dishes. Did not takes any noodles even though available. Menu was very extensive, going for many pages.
Blanquiceleste
11-29-15, 05:15
It's a bright sunny Sunday here in Singapore and I am feeling very nostalgic about Thailand. Its just been a little over 6 weeks I was last there, but it feels like I haven't been there for ages. This morning I am reminded on another cute spinner from Baccara named Thip.
I had met her there some years back before the coup happened and her brother was one of the red shirts arrested during a demonstration and she was in the trade to help raise money for his release. At least that is the story I got. Otherwise she was a simply farm girl from Isaan. The first thing that struck me about her was her dimples when she smiled and her soft hair. Standing at just 5 feet she was an absolute delight.
She spent a week with me and did not mind at all when I went out for soapy or oily sessions in the daytime. She took me to some of her favorite places to eat and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. The sex was absolutely wonderful. Here are a few clad pics (I don't take nude pics ever). One of the pics is with her best friend Nana. Even suggested a threesome once, but I am terrified of the pecker wreckers, so I politely declined.
I am still in touch with her and she is still in BKK but she has stopped working. I have not seen her in over 3 years now. Somehow, today, I want to see her. But that is not happening. Maybe another day, another way.
Have a good week folks!
Does anyone know what happened to "ThatAsshole"? I was searching some spots in Thailand and ran into a few of his old reports. I had forgotten what a legend he really was.
Banana Boi
12-01-15, 22:29
Does anyone know what happened to "ThatAsshole"? I was searching some spots in Thailand and ran into a few of his old reports. I had forgotten what a legend he really was.He must have changed his name to natty bumpo since he thinks he's the Legend here.
Blanquiceleste
12-05-15, 05:04
A report in the Straits Times today morning that caught my attention.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/russia-warns-thailand-of-isis-terrorists-in-kingdom
In a gist the report says Moscow's Federal Security Service has information about 10 Syrian militants from ISIS entering Thailand Oct 15 and Oct 31. The report goes on to say 4 went to Pattaya, 2 to Phuket, 2 to Bangkok and the other 2 to an unknown location.
Be careful, all ye who may enter here. Stay safe guys.
King Coconut
12-06-15, 16:46
Hi guys,
What is the average price of a mid class pros. In Bangkok? I'll be heading to Bangkok in 2 months and would love to dig some more information to make my trip perfect.
Goatscrot often complains about working girls who cannot hold an intelligent conversation. Of course they cannot necessarily be experts on all topics.
However many or most of working girls are coming from "Baan Nork" tiny country villages. My Mrs. Tells me about the pathetic education received by the children in the villages when she was a child. One teacher, she said, knew only Sport and cooking. So that is all the girls learned. Was common for teachers not to show up to teach till say 11 am, then children would go home for lunch at 12. Hours of education were pathetic in the villages. She claimed she learned very little to the extreme until reached grade 6 and suddenly got a good teacher, who helped her to learn a lot including reading English writing.
How come teachers were paid a salary or wage so much month, yet they taught few hours and few subjects properly? Obviously corruption played a part. However teachers had other employment keeping them away from there teaching job. One assumes that they did not get paid enough to get by, so had to use school hours doing other things. Country villages had rather few diligent decent teachers.
Obviously education in the big city of Bangkok is better. I tutor step daughter in Mathematics and English. In the modern day students are lazy and get distracted too much by social activities, Facebook, computer games, smartphones etc. , that we never had to distract us when we were young. By end of my 4th grade (as a young child) I remember all students had to be proficient in arithmetic and know the answers to simple sums straight off without thinking. Thai students seem to not that proficient taking far too long to reach the answer. Teachers emphasis laying out the problem so neatly and disciplined, that a lot of time is wasted instead of getting to the answers quickly. Basic arithmetic requires rote learning. In an exam these students are just too slow (by my standards).
I also lament the huge number of teenage pregnancies in Thailand especially perhaps among poorly educated girls. The parents just teach them to refrain from sex till they have a husband. Ludicrous. LOL. These girls seem to think they will get lucky rather than pregnant. They do not rush to the Pharmacy to get the morning after pills. Why? Too embarrassed or do not have the money? Probably a combination plus the unfortunate belief in fate whee Thais think whatever will happen will happen regardless of a persons actions.
In the west, the girls would get abortions. In Thailand, no. Mostly they have the babies. Abortion is both illegal and against the religion.
The Thai education system has yet a long way to go to be up to Western standards, and even western education is not good in my view. Far too many useless subjects are taught that are of no use in the real life. We end up living a life where we have to make serious mistakes and learn from our mistakes (after it's too late). We choose unsuitable partners because we know so little about evaluating the Psychology, character, and compatibility of a prospective partner. So many divorces occur for partners not suited to each other.
I am a maths expert. Use? Purely tutoring children in maths. LOL I don't use it in my I. T. Job.
I don't expect much intelligent conversation from bargirls. I don't need it either. From my Mrs. We have conversations about philosophy of life and religion and of course her views are highly influenced by Buddhist teachings. Unfortunately for me, devote Buddhists view "desire" as a negative factor on our lives called "Gillate" (or Gee-late. Hard to spell in English). This means she does not succumb to sexual desires as much as I would like her too. She is hot, but not often enough, and no special skills. Fortunately it also reduces her desire to go shopping and buy things not really needed, in the modern day.
Most of our attention is focused on our interactions with the girls, and rightly so. But what about other players on the scene such as the Mamasans and staff members? They are integral players on the scene, and I enjoyed interacting with many of them who were respectful, kind, courteous, and sometimes very funny. I was sitting with a real cutie at Sahara on Soi Cowboy when the Mamasan came over and asked that I buy her a drink too. She said it was her birthday. Well, I called bullshit on her. So Mamasan goes away for a few minutes, then comes back with her ID and shows it to me, and sure enough it was her birthday! Well, I'll be damn!
So, I ended up buying Mamasan two drinks and we had a little party LOL! I also ended up bar fining the little cutie I was with, and Mamasan was like, "And give it to her good too, but treat her nice because she is like my daughter. "Hehehe! Turns out that pretty little Thai girl could hardly take this big American dong, but that's another story LOL! Before we left Mamasan was joking with me that the girl's hootchie smelled, so I demanded a 2,000 baht discount LOL! The girl didn't understand what we were talking about. When Mamasan explained, the girl just smiled and acted like she wanted to punch me. Why me? Mamasan was the one who said her hootchie smelled LOL!
Now, sometimes when I'm in a bit of a good mood I can be a little bit of a joker. Indeed, I consider myself to be the "Weird Al Yankovic" of mongers LOL! I mean, I can hear a song and automatically I just start coming up with my own lyrics that are funny. Here is a popular song that I was hearing in the go-go's all over Thailand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOh6wb9l00g. So, I'm sitting in a bar listening to this song, and I look at the little waitress standing nearby and start singing the song. Only I pull out a 20 baht note and I'm singing, "I only got 20 baht in my pocket!" Hahaha! LOLOLOL! Little Thai girl died laughing and hit me and said, "Not enough, not enough! 20 baht not enough!" LOL! Did the same thing with one of the Thai tutes who also fell out laughing and said, "No 20 baht! 20 dollar!" I really enjoyed these side interactions with the people of Thailand. But then there are a few others I did not enjoy so much. I will write about those later.
Oh, and I guess I will go ahead and say that I met a very special girl in Phuket. She is absolutely beautiful, and I've never met anybody like her in my life anywhere. Not even in my favored Brazil. She moved and touched me in ways I never expected would happen. And me being me, I put my feelings about that and her to song too (not funny}. I wish I knew the name of the song. You hear it all over Thailand in the bars too. In Phuket! In Phuket! Oh I met! Oh I met! Her in Phuket! Yeah Naked Gunz, an Asian Thai girl has me singing her praises. Given my strict standards for Asian girls, then you damn well know she had to be hot as hell! What I call a rare Thai "white tiger". Mr. Breadman knows about her!
I was in a Russian Go-Go club last night and one of the girls told me a pretty funny story. I'll clean it up a bit by leaving out some of the details to protect the "innocent". But basically what happened is that a guy went in there and agreed to take a girl out for "escort service" at 10,000 baht for two hours with no sex. The guy lives in Thailand, so he took the girl to his apartment, and the place was just a complete disaster! Dirty and a total mess (pets involved)! And get this. The guy asks the girl to clean up his apartment LOLOLOL! What the hell did the guy want? A maid or an escort or what LOL? The girl takes a look around and tells the guy to fuck off! Hahaha! She says he would need to pay her for 2 weeks to clean up his place. That's how much time would have been needed given how dirty it was. Too funny! That a guy would hire an escort then ask her to clean his apartment. I guess he figured he needed to get something out of her since he sure wasn't going to be fucking her LOLOLOL!
Two nights ago, on the way to see Fern at Mango, saw a fire close to Ekamai BTS and bus stations and Sukhumvit blocked except for heaps of emergency vehicles with sirens blaring. Apparantly no serious injuries despite some ambulance heading to Ekamai hospital. BTS was not affected.
Robert Long
12-11-15, 18:43
Hi guys,
What is the average price of a mid class pros. In Bangkok? I'll be heading to Bangkok in 2 months and would love to dig some more information to make my trip perfect.Majesty.
It is all written here, in this forum. Start reading and you will know all the secrets and prices and places to go. We say RTFF.
RL.
Member #4387
12-11-15, 19:47
I was in a Russian Go-Go club last night and one of the girls told me a pretty funny story. I'll clean it up a bit by leaving out some of the details to protect the "innocent". But basically what happened is that a guy went in there and agreed to take a girl out for "escort service" at 10,000 baht for two hours with no sex. The guy lives in Thailand, so he took the girl to his apartment, and the place was just a complete disaster! Dirty and a total mess (pets involved)! And get this. The guy asks the girl to clean up his apartment LOLOLOL! What the hell did the guy want? A maid or an escort or what LOL? The girl takes a look around and tells the guy to fuck off! Hahaha! She says he would need to pay her for 2 weeks to clean up his place. That's how much time would have been needed given how dirty it was. Too funny! That a guy would hire an escort then ask her to clean his apartment. I guess he figured he needed to get something out of her since he sure wasn't going to be fucking her LOLOLOL!I am guilty of doing the same thing in Norway one time many years ago. I am renting out a lot of apartments and I did have lots of problems with a tenant. He rufused to leave, didn't pay rent for a few months and was a pain in the ass for others living in the same apartmentbuilding. I had new tenants ready to move in and finaly one day the problematic tenant just left and was never to be seen after this. The apt looked like a shithole and since the new tenants (I felt sorry for them) were ready to move in the day after (it was late eve I found out). No cleaningagency open so I improvised and drove my car around in the hookerarea. Picked up two nigerean hookers (didn't care so much how they looked ofcourse) and drove them to the apt at stake. Gave them cleaningsupplies and a 4/5 hours later the apt was as new and ready for new people to move in. I never did feel any urge to fuck them fatty nigereans but I paid them 10000 piso each (NOK 1500). I even informed my GF about this and she just laughed and viewed it as a clever move so it happens.
Wolvenvacht
12-12-15, 10:06
Hi guys,
What is the average price of a mid class pros. In Bangkok? I'll be heading to Bangkok in 2 months and would love to dig some more information to make my trip perfect.Average price of an average pro providing average services during an average time? 1000 to 1500 baht with an error margin of about 1000 baht.
Joking aside, the scene in Bangkok or Thailand and even South-East Asia as a whole is quite difference from other areas. There is no such thing as an "average" hooker here. You have quite different types of working girls with a totally different pricing level. From the cheap streetwalkers, over mature ladies in Beergarten, bargirls in the girlie bars, waitresses, dancers and coyotes in the agogo clubs to "high class" escorts and semi-pro girls in the discos and there are even a lot of opportunities for freebies through the use of social media and dating websites.
So take your pick what is "average".
Eszpresszo
12-13-15, 18:37
over mature ladies in BeergartenPlease define mature, for the purposes of Thai working girls. As we discussed in another thread recently, Thai women seem to look much younger than their Western counterparts and possibly their Asian counterparts as well. I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the idea of 40-something women who look like twenty-somethings. What age group are we talking about when you say "mature" and overall, how would you describe their looks on average?
Thanks.
Wolvenvacht
12-13-15, 22:33
Please define mature, for the purposes of Thai working girls. As we discussed in another thread recently, Thai women seem to look much younger than their Western counterparts and possibly their Asian counterparts as well. I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the idea of 40-something women who look like twenty-somethings. What age group are we talking about when you say "mature" and overall, how would you describe their looks on average?
Thanks.Definitely 35+ or even 40+, but at worst they will look early thirties. Their looks? Skinny to curvy, there is not one set model, they are as diverse as everywhere else.
My Thai GF is 40 and she calls herself "old fat lady", although she doesn't look a day older than 30 and she is half my weight. Of course when she says that I will deny it and to show that I mean it I have to make love to her.
I'm planning my first excursion to LOS in mid Jan and wanted to know where most would recommend spending a Sunday, daytime and nighttime-- Bangkok or Pattaya? I'm planning to fly in to Bangkok on a Friday night and wanted to know if I should plan to go to Pattaya on Saturday to fully experience it, or spend Sat in Bangkok and go to Pattaya on Sun or Mon? I would also have a few nights in Bangkok on my return home.
I know January is high season and would prefer to avoid large tourists crowds in Pattaya that may accumulate, but also didn't want to short change myself in experiencing Pattaya if earlier in the week is much slower.
Any input is appreciated.
Pipe Layer99
12-14-15, 00:18
I'm planning my first excursion to LOS in mid Jan and wanted to know where most would recommend spending a Sunday, daytime and nighttime-- Bangkok or Pattaya? I'm planning to fly in to Bangkok on a Friday night and wanted to know if I should plan to go to Pattaya on Saturday to fully experience it, or spend Sat in Bangkok and go to Pattaya on Sun or Mon? I would also have a few nights in Bangkok on my return home. Since you are flying into BKK on Fri, you might as well do 2 or 3 days there, then check out Pattaya. Once you have seen both, you can decide which one you like better for the end of the trip. Either way, you have to go back to BKK to fly out. So its a win / win.
Wolvenvacht
12-14-15, 07:17
I'm planning my first excursion to LOS in mid Jan and wanted to know where most would recommend spending a Sunday, daytime and nighttime-- Bangkok or Pattaya? I'm planning to fly in to Bangkok on a Friday night and wanted to know if I should plan to go to Pattaya on Saturday to fully experience it, or spend Sat in Bangkok and go to Pattaya on Sun or Mon? I would also have a few nights in Bangkok on my return home.
I know January is high season and would prefer to avoid large tourists crowds in Pattaya that may accumulate, but also didn't want to short change myself in experiencing Pattaya if earlier in the week is much slower.
Any input is appreciated.For the agogo or bar-scene there is no "slack day", except official holidays when bars cannot sell alcohol and therefore close. And even then streetwalkers and massage places provide enough choice. There are always more than enough girls available, either in Bangkok or in Pattaya.
The only thing you should do is minimize your travel time. Going straight to Pattaya from the airport, spending a few days in Pattaya and then returning to Bangkok for your last few days and return home seems optimal.
Please define mature, for the purposes of Thai working girls. As we discussed in another thread recently, Thai women seem to look much younger than their Western counterparts and possibly their Asian counterparts as well. I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the idea of 40-something women who look like twenty-somethings. What age group are we talking about when you say "mature" and overall, how would you describe their looks on average?
Thanks.Ha ha! He was just being nice with the word "mature". He did not want to say "old bags" and he would not be checking out exactly how old they were. Would you prefer "past their prime"?
However girls that I think look great at 25 to 35, may already be far to old for the youth obsessed types. For some guys, young=pretty, but that is really stupid for me. 20 YO girls can be just as ugly as 40 YOs for me.
I'm planning my first excursion to LOS in mid Jan and wanted to know where most would recommend spending a Sunday, daytime and nighttime-- Bangkok or Pattaya? I'm planning to fly in to Bangkok on a Friday night and wanted to know if I should plan to go to Pattaya on Saturday to fully experience it, or spend Sat in Bangkok and go to Pattaya on Sun or Mon? I would also have a few nights in Bangkok on my return home.
Any input is appreciated.The way I did it, years ago, was rent a car and go directly to Pattaya. Late at night, no traffic. Let the hotel know what time you will arrive so your room is ready. I'm sure you have RTFF and know what hotel you are staying at. Since this is your first time, just walk around Pattaya, enjoy, follow the guidance posted in the forum. It is sort of like the Waikiki of Thailand. A different sort of shopping experience. The actual experience cannot be compared to what you get from reading. Especially if it is your first time mongering! Then, take the bus (cheap) or rent another car to go back to BKK, where your hotel will be expecting you. DO NOT BRING A GIRL WITH YOU FROM PATTAYA TO BKK. ATMs are all over the place, but just take cash to avoid the foreign transaction fee. Have a good time.
Banana Boi
12-15-15, 10:01
The actual experience cannot be compared to what you get from reading.
Absolutely agree.
DO NOT BRING A GIRL WITH YOU FROM PATTAYA TO BKK.
Why not? I did and we had a blast in Crazy House and Baccara.
DO NOT BRING A GIRL WITH YOU FROM PATTAYA TO BKK. I made an even bigger mistake when new to everything 23+ years ago. I took a girl with me to Pattaya. She wasn't even stunning or anything special.
Hey guys posted this in Phuket thread but got no response. Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks.
East coast.
Need some advise.
May seem stupid but I will be visiting Phuket next year and will be staying at the east cost of Phuket.
Only interested in massage parlous and HJ's. Obviously I don't want to travel that 1 h to Patong.
Any suggestions? And what's the protocols?
Please help.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Eszpresszo
12-15-15, 17:46
Ha ha! He was just being nice with the word "mature". He did not want to say "old bags" and he would not be checking out exactly how old they were. Would you prefer "past their prime"?
However girls that I think look great at 25 to 35, may already be far to old for the youth obsessed types. For some guys, young=pretty, but that is really stupid for me. 20 YO girls can be just as ugly as 40 YOs for me.Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me, and my recent post-divorce experience has confirmed what we already knew. Mature women tend to be better at sex (once past their prime, they can no longer hold their vagina up like some precious commodity). They also tend to be more bat-shit crazy than ever.
But back to our previous conversations about age, Mr S. You might recall on another thread, we were talking about how the Thai women don't look as old as their western or Asian counterparts. This kind of makes it hard for an occidental first-time visitor to understand what he is getting into. I had a webcam call with a hot looking MILF who was in her 40's, looked like her 20's. She has a daughter who was 18, who was helping her run her shop. The daughter looked like she was 10 though she was headed for college. She had a picture of her other daughter, who was 25, but she looked more like 15. You see a potential dilemma for someone new to Thailand?
Wolvenvacht
12-15-15, 20:03
Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me, and my recent post-divorce experience has confirmed what we already knew. Mature women tend to be better at sex (once past their prime, they can no longer hold their vagina up like some precious commodity). They also tend to be more bat-shit crazy than ever.
But back to our previous conversations about age, Mr S. You might recall on another thread, we were talking about how the Thai women don't look as old as their western or Asian counterparts. This kind of makes it hard for an occidental first-time visitor to understand what he is getting into. I had a webcam call with a hot looking MILF who was in her 40's, looked like her 20's. She has a daughter who was 18, who was helping her run her shop. The daughter looked like she was 10 though she was headed for college. She had a picture of her other daughter, who was 25, but she looked more like 15. You see a potential dilemma for someone new to Thailand?Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant. I never asked or checked the age of my companion-to-be. If she looks good (according to my definition of "good" has a bubbly and pleasant attitude, and is willing to provide the services I require, why should I care if she is 25,35 or 45?
Unless you are on a quest to make love to girls of all ages and you are still missing a few figures on your tally sheet to make it complete, would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?
Wolvenvacht
12-15-15, 20:07
I made an even bigger mistake when new to everything 23+ years ago. I took a girl with me to Pattaya. She wasn't even stunning or anything special.Last time I was in Pattaya, I took a Soi 6 girl and the next day my Chiang Rai GF came over for a few days.
The fact that there were many thousands of WGs available in Pattaya, did not in the least reduce the fun I had with my GF.
Pipe Layer99
12-16-15, 03:28
Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me ....The beer garden in Bangkok has a lot of older ladies. You may find that some are decent enough for a ST run but others are well past their best days. OTOH you can also find some young ones since it is a freelance place. Every now and then some cuties are in there. It's worth it to stop in one afternoon or evening for a look and a beer. In any case, there are plenty of other places nearby if you don't find something you like.
Same applies to Pattaya's beer garden near the entrance of walking street.
Blanquiceleste
12-16-15, 12:27
Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant.
SNIP
would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?I could not agree more with you Wolvenvacht. I once had a girl (ahem. Woman) who was 42 but she provided me the most intellectually stimulating companionship ever. She was well traveled, well read, reasonable educated and shared interests in music, food, sport and books. And she was a professional yoga teacher. Man! Did she push my buttons or did she push my buttons.
To top it all her body was an absolute marvel. Toned, taut, smooth skin. Not an ounce of extra fat. Fantastic in bed, knew exactly what she was doing, when to take control and when to give in.
Cherry on the cake. She was a great cook too. Stayed with me for 4 days. Such women come along once in a long long time and I cherish such memories!
Eszpresszo
12-16-15, 19:30
Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant. I never asked or checked the age of my companion-to-be. If she looks good (according to my definition of "good" has a bubbly and pleasant attitude, and is willing to provide the services I require, why should I care if she is 25,35 or 45?
Unless you are on a quest to make love to girls of all ages and you are still missing a few figures on your tally sheet to make it complete, would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?Thanks for your input, Mr. Wolvenvacht, but I think you might have misunderstood my concern. I'm not fixated on age at all. As I said, I am 58, which makes most women younger than me, and maturity has given me a great appreciation for a broader range of women. If I come across cute THAI girls who happen to be past their prime, its not a deal breaker with me. But, as you probably know, "mature" working girls in Europe or the Americas are not too attractive in most instances. Some of them will look awful. Hence, the word "mature" throws up a measure of uncertainty.
Regardless of whether a girl is actually 18 - or 28, I am not interested in girls who look like they could be in the same 5th grade class as my son. I don't have that totally sick perv instinct. Hell, my son isn't even interested in the girls in his class, either. And yes, you read that right. I am 58 years old and I have a son in fifth grade. Any surprise you'd meet a cad like me on a mongering site?
But, back to the original question. My concern about age perception is a PRACTICAL one. I understand the "mature" working girls work at a "discount" compared to their youthful counterparts. How do I negotiate properly for their age bracket if I can't discern what their actual age bracket is? On the opposite end of the spectrum, how do I determine if a girl is truly "too young" for ethical and legal reasons? I read a post somewhere (maybe another forum) where a monger walked in a discrete Thai brothel only to find the girls there looking way too young, so he fled. My question simply is about understanding what you are dealing with. But, I think the only way to find out is to experience it for myself, when I make the journey. Some thing can't be explained on internet forums, but I appreciate the feedback from all of you.
Wolvenvacht
12-16-15, 20:44
Thanks for your input, Mr. Wolvenvacht, but I think you might have misunderstood my concern. I'm not fixated on age at all. As I said, I am 58, which makes most women younger than me, and maturity has given me a great appreciation for a broader range of women. If I come across cute THAI girls who happen to be past their prime, its not a deal breaker with me. But, as you probably know, "mature" working girls in Europe or the Americas are not too attractive in most instances. Some of them will look awful. Hence, the word "mature" throws up a measure of uncertainty.When I used the word "mature" I meant indeed women who look "mature". That doesn't necessarily mean they are ugly or otherwise not fit for being on The Game. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all have our own idea of what is our "ideal" companion. But in the Beergarten you are unlikely to find the younger side of the spectrum.
Regardless of whether a girl is actually 18 - or 28, I am not interested in girls who look like they could be in the same 5th grade class as my son. I don't have that totally sick perv instinct. Hell, my son isn't even interested in the girls in his class, either. And yes, you read that right. I am 58 years old and I have a son in fifth grade. Any surprise you'd meet a cad like me on a mongering site?I'm close to your age and indeed I do not see any bonus in going with the younger SWs. A good rule of thumb is to add 5 to 10 years to their apparent age to get a working idea of their real age bracket, but as I said before, I find it really irrelevant. The only thing about age is to make sure that you respect the legal age limits, and if you see someone who looks close to 18 years old you are probably still on the safe side. Nevertheless, I give such girls a wide berth as they rarely if ever perform well in bed. A few times I ended up with girls "fresh from the farm" and those were not the best sessions I ever had. On the other hand in a massage shop I ended up with a woman who said she was 45 (so probably she was 50) and we had lots of fun. There wasn't much I could teach her and we both could focus on our pleasure. Anecdotal eveidence of course, but it shows that age is not a true indicator of quality.
But, back to the original question. My concern about age perception is a PRACTICAL one. I understand the "mature" working girls work at a "discount" compared to their youthful counterparts. How do I negotiate properly for their age bracket if I can't discern what their actual age bracket is? On the opposite end of the spectrum, how do I determine if a girl is truly "too young" for ethical and legal reasons? I read a post somewhere (maybe another forum) where a monger walked in a discrete Thai brothel only to find the girls there looking way too young, so he fled. My question simply is about understanding what you are dealing with. But, I think the only way to find out is to experience it for myself, when I make the journey. Some thing can't be explained on internet forums, but I appreciate the feedback from all of you.In Thailand everything is open to negotiations. Within one establishment there is usual a more or less standard price, say 3000 to 3500 baht for any agogo girl going LT with you. The neigbouring club may be cheaper or more expensive, but again there is probably a "standard" tariff too. Only exceptions seem to be clubs that employ "coyote" or "model agency" girls who will fetch a higher price. But again that price is not age determined.
For freelancers that is different as they are entirely their own boss and they can ask any price they think the market will support. Will "mature" women fetch a lower price than young spinners? Maybe but not necessarily. I all depends on your negotiating skills. And at the end of the month even the young spinners have to pay the rent of their apartment and although they may start with a higher offer, not closing a "high price" deal is still equal to no money for them. But I find such negotiations tedious, just to be able to say that I fucked a girl 30 years my junior.
Mr Enternational
12-16-15, 21:05
When I used the word "mature" I meant indeed women who look "mature". That doesn't necessarily mean they are ugly or otherwise not fit for being on The Game. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all have our own idea of what is our "ideal" companion. But in the Beergarten you are unlikely to find the younger side of the spectrum.On the honest side of the game there are some old bats in there. I am 43 and a couple of years ago I dated a 49 year old Thai school teacher and now back in the States I am dating a 46 year old Indian woman. So age is not an issue for me. But BG definitely has some old dragon ladies.
Member #4698
12-16-15, 22:07
A lot of 30 something FL's hang out in Spasso at the Hyatt Grand. Therefore, if high quality mature girls are what you are after, go to Spasso around 11 pm. All of the girls I have taken out of this bar where between the ages of 32 and 37 except for this one good looking 42 year old girl that I still fondly remember. She was sitting in a booth nursing a glass of wine and looked like legal secretary from a prestigious law firm. She smiled at me as I walked by so I said Hello and sat down next to her. I initially thought she could not be older than 34 and I was amazed when she nonchalantly told me her real age. She was very warm and friendly in the bar booth, if you know what I mean, so I thought what the hell and took her back in my hotel room where she amazed me with how soft her skin was and how everything still held up. 555. Her warm friendly personality in the bar continued over into the bedroom and I still remember how her soft pussy wrapped around my dick and felt real good, so all in all I had a pretty good time with her. She stayed a few hours. After sex we laid together and talked about various things. She showed me pictures of her condominium. The place looked very high class and was stylishly decorated. She excused herself and left around 4 am because she said she did not want her neighbors to see her come home all dressed up in the morning light. I gave her the agreed upon 4000 bt for ST plus I tipped her an extra 500. I had never been with a Thai 40 something. It was a good time, but I did not repeat with her although I could have if I had wanted. I generally prefer girls in the 22 to 26 age range, but variety is usually a very good thing so I have been known to sample older and younger girls occasionally. Ha Ha.
Hey guys posted this in Phuket thread but got no response. Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks.
East coast.
Need some advise.
May seem stupid but I will be visiting Phuket next year and will be staying at the east cost of Phuket.
Only interested in massage parlous and HJ's. Obviously I don't want to travel that 1 h to Patong.
Any suggestions? And what's the protocols?
Please help.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
ThanksYou have two choices: Keep on hoping to get an answer to your questiiin, wherever you post it or.
Start RTFF: it will do good to you.
You have two choices: Keep on hoping to get an answer to your questiiin, wherever you post it or.
Start RTFF: it will do good to you.Everywhere I read is about sex. Not interested in gogogirls, FL's or whatever. Just want a place near my hotel where I can go, relax and unwind with a HJ, not too much to ask?
Just want to see where the best place and nearest would be? Phuket town? Or should I be focusing my efforts on driving all the way to Patong (1 h drive) ?
Apparently the 7-11's and Family Marts don't sell SIM cards anymore (maybe because the mandatory registration takes too much time?) I was redirected to a phone shop at the ground level of Nana Square mall, at the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 3 (in Bangkok). I bought a Happy Tourist SIM 7-day Package there for 399 Baht.
Later on I noticed they had cut out a small part of the packaging. I checked the DTAC website and found out they cut out the real price: 299 Baht. See https://www.dtac.co.th/en/prepaid/.
Did some googling and found out I was not the first to be scammed: http://www.desiyatri.com/2014/01/thailand-sim-card-scam.html.
I've always bought my SIM cards at a 7-11 and I've never been scammed. Now that's not possible anymore I will for sure pay more attention.
To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.
Crocodilexp
12-18-15, 16:45
I checked the DTAC website and found out they cut out the real price: 299 Baht.
To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.
299 for 7 days is not a great deal either, you can get a True SIM for 50 baht plus 7 days 3G package for 99 baht + VAT (or 30 days 1.5Gb for 199 + VAT).
Unless you can suggest a specific site, the advice to "order online" does not help much (sometimes offers aimed at wealthy tourists are overpriced). As always to get a good deal simply be aware of the market prices.
Small shops can do the registration for you on the spot too.
Member #4611
12-18-15, 21:01
Apparently the 7-11's and Family Marts don't sell SIM cards anymore (maybe because the mandatory registration takes too much time?).......To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.AIS on 4th Floor of Emporium is reliable and fair IMV. Think there was a 79 baht package for a week. With enough data for emails and web while on the go away from WiFi at the hotel.
FK
you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.Top floor of the terminal 21 mall has several places to get sim cards. If your from the states, T-Mobile allows you to use your texts and data free of charge while in over 200 countries. Phone calls are a reasonable 20 cents per minute. Worked flawlessly in Germany on my last trip, will report back on how it works in Thailand.
Top floor of the terminal 21 mall has several places to get sim cards. If your from the states, T-Mobile allows you to use your texts and data free of charge while in over 200 countries. Phone calls are a reasonable 20 cents per minute. Worked flawlessly in Germany on my last trip, will report back on how it works in Thailand.I live in Issan Land and have T-Mobile SIM and it works, to use your word, flawlessly. Never an issue. And if your phone is Wi-Fi calling enable you can call back to the States without the 20 cents per minute charge. Calling another country it'll be the 20 cents per minute.
For LTE capable mobile phones, and using an AIS SIM.
Type *411#.
Your phone will shortly convert to 4G displayed at the top (free trial).
Internet download speed seems excellent on my phone. I am using it to power my Notebook / tablet hybrid right now using internet tethering. Much faster than my rented room slow Wifi internet.
Syzy.
I am in BKK now and bought a SIM card at the top floor of Terminal 21 (across from Movies) for my local Thai phone number as you can no longer buy a SIM card at a 7/11 etc. You also have to bring your passport or a copy as the Thai government changes their regulatory policies due to increased security concerns.
I also use Tmobile with my IPhone for international calls, Internet surfing, and texting but don't like to change out the SIM card in this phone as it can easily pop out and disappear. As the other poster said it's. 20 cents for calls, incoming and outgoing. I have used it for two years in Asia and the reception here and Internet reception is better for me than US.
Top floor of the terminal 21 mall has several places to get sim cards. If your from the states, T-Mobile allows you to use your texts and data free of charge while in over 200 countries. Phone calls are a reasonable 20 cents per minute. Worked flawlessly in Germany on my last trip, will report back on how it works in Thailand.
I live in Issan Land and have T-Mobile SIM and it works, to use your word, flawlessly. Never an issue. And if your phone is Wi-Fi calling enable you can call back to the States without the 20 cents per minute charge. Calling another country it'll be the 20 cents per minute.Why do you say "Wi-Fi calling enabled"? Maybe this is a USA thing? I call overseas using LINE, Whatsapp, Skype, applications on the smartphone, you name it, using the phone Data service, so many Gig per month. Hardly ever use Wifi on my phone. High speed data works pretty good these days. Why be constrained to Wi-fi locations? I would only switch to Wifi to download videos using a high heavy data load (not often). I guess I a dinosaur and not hooked on videos like the modern youth.
I have been using HSPA+ (not sure which release and how many Mbits per sec), and LTE /4 G which should be 100 Mbits / sec.
I have had overseas data calls that were much clearer (on occasions) even than local normal mobile calls (when connection was poor quality). Obviously depends on both ends having a good quality high speed connection.
The cost is zero for any country for data to data calls. Its just part of monthly data charge. So buy an international phone that does not have internet data calls disabled. I am an international traveller, so I need things that work well in every country with a reasonable data service. I use a Dual-SIM phone so can be contacted on multiple numbers as well.
"20 cents per minute for other countries" I guess you mean if calling a non-data service normal phone number. I make only a few local calls in Thailand (even less OS). Usually calling an MP to see if a girl is there and available. Could be the Mrs when she has a bad internet connection.
I use Skype to call mother OS as she has no smart phone. Skype quotes 10 cents per minute to mobiles and 2.3 cents per minute to landlines in my home Country (plus a connection fee 4.9/8.9 cents). I would use the latter if wanted to talk a very long time I guess.
Its a massive difference to say 15 years ago when calling a GF in Thailand from OS could cost well over a dollar per minute.
Sounds like the T-Mobile thing is very good for short term stays here, however consider getting a local SIM, especially for long stay. Its too easy for me, as have a dual SIM phone. I can have a Thai SIM and an OS country SIM both functioning together. Handy for frequent travellers.
I guess some day, land lines will cease to exist. All that cable going to waste.
Why do you say "Wi-Fi calling enabled"? Maybe this is a USA thing? I call overseas using LINE, Whatsapp, Skype, applications on the smartphone, you name it, using the phone Data service, so many Gig per month. Hardly ever use Wifi on my phone. High speed data works pretty good these days. Why be constrained to Wi-fi locations? I would only switch to Wifi to download videos using a high heavy data load (not often). I guess I a dinosaur and not hooked on videos like the modern youth.
.Most of the family, no all, back in the States are not on things like LINE, etc. I have a Nexus 5 X which allows me to change the 'Calling Preference' to Wi-Fi Preferred instead of Cellular Preferred. And if I am on Wi-Fi I can call back to the States without the 20 cents per minute T-Mobile (USA Phone Provider) charge.
It costs the 20 cents per minute, even if on Wi-Fi preferred to another country. Your right the social media calling abilities are the way to go which I use to friends in other countries. And as you know every Thai has one or more of the apps you mentioned and that is how I contact them.
I do have a 2nd phone with a Thai SIM but rarely use it now. Mostly for Thai banking OTP (one time password) stuff.
P.S. : I enjoy your CH postings.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 13:52
Why do you say "Wi-Fi calling enabled"? Maybe this is a USA thing?It is a T-mobile thing. It is a program that is installed on their phones and can only be used with their SIM card. There is no wifi calling when I put my T-mobile SIM into the new Samsung J1 that I bought in Tukcom or any other phone that I have that I did not get from T-mobile. There is also no wifi calling when I put another company's SIM into my T-mobile phone.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 14:01
Most of the family, no all, back in the States are not on things like LINE, etc.Those VOIP apps are not an American "thing". Most only use normal texting so you have to teach them. My mom and dad have been using whatsapp for a couple of years now. I just made my daughter download it two days ago.
GoodEnough
12-20-15, 14:11
Not sure I Understand the thrust of these posts. I use Apple, as do all of my family members in the States, and use Apple FaceTime to talk free, video and / or audio frequently. To speak with friends who don't have Apple products I use Skype, which also works fine. A lot of my friends here ise Whatsapp to speak with people all over the world. I think VOIP is pretty much universal.
GE.
Most of the family, no all, back in the States are not on things like LINE, etc. I have a Nexus 5 X which allows me to change the 'Calling Preference' to Wi-Fi Preferred instead of Cellular Preferred. And if I am on Wi-Fi I can call back to the States without the 20 cents per minute T-Mobile (USA Phone Provider) charge.
It costs the 20 cents per minute, even if on Wi-Fi preferred to another country. Your right the social media calling abilities are the way to go which I use to friends in other countries. And as you know every Thai has one or more of the apps you mentioned and that is how I contact them.
I do have a 2nd phone with a Thai SIM but rarely use it now. Mostly for Thai banking OTP (one time password) stuff.
P.S. : I enjoy your CH postings.
... using the phone Data service, so many Gig per month. Hardly ever use Wifi on my phone. High speed data works pretty good these days. Why be constrained to Wi-fi locations? Because data is expensive in the US (i.e. US carrier), and WiFi is free. I try to use WiFi wherever I can.
Because data is expensive in the US (i.e. US carrier), and WiFi is free. I try to use WiFi wherever I can.Ok but change mentality in Thailand. Several gig of data per month is not expensive, or can get so much per day too.
If you don't download video, wifi becomes unnecessary here.
The convenience is much more important than savings a few pennies.
Not sure I Understand the thrust of these posts. I use Apple, as do all of my family members in the States, and use Apple FaceTime to talk free, video and / or audio frequently. To speak with friends who don't have Apple products I use Skype, which also works fine. A lot of my friends here ise Whatsapp to speak with people all over the world. I think VOIP is pretty much universal.
GE.If use video calls, does chew up a large data content. That is when Wifi might be needed in Thailand. I do that stuff from home. Voice calls use low bandwidth so no need for wifi. I travel to many countries but not USA for a few years. Germany, Italy, Sweden, Australia, Singapore, etc.
Wifi enabled is american jargon that means nothing to me.
Everything I do works eqially well on wifi data or normal phone internet service. There is no difference on my phone handset. Its a Samsung free of american restrictions I guess.
Natutally all my realtives have smart phones except mum aged 80. They can all install Voice Over Internet Protocol Apps. whether LINE, Whatsapp, Skype, Viber, etc. This means voice calls OS imternet to internet for free regardless of using Wifi or not. I gather this is not the way in the USA.
How does USA prevent it? Surely people generally have smart phones in the modern era? I guess you buy phones tied to a certain company with certain things disabled.
I buy a phone totally independently. I can put in any SIM card I like, in fact two of them together. Can only do internet on one at a time and 2nd SIM has 3G but not 4G.
I wish I would be wrong if I understood most are unable to understand the phone operational basic technology. Until now the mobile phone world is operated by two types of technology named by CDMA and GSM. The fact is CDMA developed in USA and GSM developed in Europe.
CDMA came in the market with a limitation of the phone set itself was sim card. The phone was programmed and fixed with the phone number dedicated with its provider (once upon a time). On the other hand GSM came with wide freedom using separate sim card and the phone set is usable with any GSM provider just replacing with the sim card. Later on rim card developed for CDMA system and the phone set is usable with any CDMA provider just replacing the rim card. I had read some post here before that some are unable to understand that rim card is unusable in GSM phone set and sim card unusable for CDMA phone. From few years before some phone company launched some phone sets have dual sim pocket usable by both CDMA and GSM.
In USA there are 10 to 12 mobile phone operators servicing around the country and all are CDMA system. Only AT&T and T-Mobile have GSM too, but don't have impressive amount of GSM subscribers. The largest volume of subscribers have Verizone and it is fully dedicated to CDMA. So it is very natural most peoples of USA ignored about GSM system where as rest of the world operated by GSM. So any one come out from USA having a habit of CDMA, sure he / she will get puzzled with his / her CDMA phone in GSM world. As well as we all know USA guys seeing in mirror only himself and don't care what have in left and right.
Wifi enabled is american jargon that means nothing to me
Natutally all my realtives have smart phones except mum aged 80. They can all install Voice Over Internet Protocol Apps. whether LINE, Whatsapp, Skype, Viber, etc. This means voice calls OS imternet to internet for free regardless of using Wifi or not. I gather this is not the way in the USA.
How does USA prevent it? Surely people generally have smart phones in the modern era? I guess you buy phones tied to a certain company with certain things disabled.
I buy a phone totally independently. I can put in any SIM card I like, in fact two of them together. Can only do internet on one at a time and 2nd SIM has 3G but not 4G.The Wifi calling he is referring to is a phone and carrier specific service. It basically acts as a preinstalled VoIP service. Instead of him having to install an app such as Line or Viber or Skype, his phone automatically routes calls through VoIP when connected to wifi. It's basically a seamless way to communicate if you're a frequent talker/caller who is out of the carrier's normal service area. I and most of my friends here and elsewhere almost never talk on the phone so it's worthless for us. iMessage and other chat apps handle basically all everyday needs.
VoIP apps are popular in the US just as they are everywhere else. The only difference is which apps are used. Line is most popular in Thailand, Japan and a few other places. QQ is huge in China. iMessage, Slack, Skype and many others are big in the US. Which apps are used has nothing to do with the carriers.
It is a T-mobile thing. It is a program that is installed on their phones and can only be used with their SIM card. There is no wifi calling when I put my T-mobile SIM into the new Samsung J1 that I bought in Tukcom or any other phone that I have that I did not get from T-mobile. There is also no wifi calling when I put another company's SIM into my T-mobile phone.Not that it is a big deal but I am not sure about that. The phone I have was bought from Google not from T-Mobile. Anyway, whichever way it is, it works for me for my purposes. Thanks for the update from another ATL person (if I remember correctly).
299 for 7 days is not a great deal either, you can get a True SIM for 50 baht plus 7 days 3G package for 99 baht + VAT (or 30 days 1.5Gb for 199 + VAT).
Unless you can suggest a specific site, the advice to "order online" does not help much (sometimes offers aimed at wealthy tourists are overpriced). As always to get a good deal simply be aware of the market prices.
Small shops can do the registration for you on the spot too.100 baht free call credit is also included in my package. And it's for 3G as well as 4G.
I was referring to the DTAC (Happy) site to order online: https://www.dtac.co.th/en/prepaid/.
Apologies if that wasn't clear.
299 for 7 days is not a great deal either, you can get a True SIM for 50 baht plus 7 days 3G package for 99 baht + VAT (or 30 days 1.5Gb for 199 + VAT).
Unless you can suggest a specific site, the advice to "order online" does not help much (sometimes offers aimed at wealthy tourists are overpriced). As always to get a good deal simply be aware of the market prices.
Small shops can do the registration for you on the spot too.Your comparison is meaningless. The price greatly depends on the total Gigabytes limit per period and on the download / upload maximum speed. 3 G is now considered slow speed, is therefore available much cheaper than HSPA, HSPA+, LTE speeds.
I use a couple of devices with no sim and through the Internet (wifi) I can use those apps.
It is the IP that can ban the voip.
Cleat that a telephone provider is not happy you use a voip to bypass their services they get the money from. So whenever they can they ban them.
One has also to see the roaming agreements between providers and what these stipulate.
Hello!
I am going to Khao lak, is there any gogo bars or similar places where I can find girls? Happy ending massages? Phuket is very far away and I don't want use my holiday sitting in taxi.
Thanks for help!
MichaelSamuel
12-31-15, 01:58
Going to make my first trip to Pattaya in a couple weeks but starting in Bangkok for a few days to see tha GF #1. Going to probably use the VR taxi service (http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/) mentioned in other posts. The thai GF thinks I am heading off to HK for business so going to take a taxi back to BKK and then get the pattaya taxi from there, will cost me a couple hundred baht but worth it to keep up the story. My question is should I just have him drop me at departures then is it possible to get down to arrivals where the pattaya taxi would pick up? Or is there a better way? I know it's restricted to go from arrivals up to departures but is the opposite way blocked too?
Thanks for any assistance.
Mr Enternational
12-31-15, 03:51
My question is should I just have him drop me at departures then is it possible to get down to arrivals where the pattaya taxi would pick up? Or is there a better way?They have to put you out at departures. But why not once you are in the taxi and away from your girl ask him how much to go to Pattaya instead? You don't need to sign up for a special taxi to go there. Just use the one you are already in. And I'm sure he will be happy to get the bigger fare.
Going to make my first trip to Pattaya in a couple weeks but starting in Bangkok for a few days to see tha GF #1. Going to probably use the VR taxi service (http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/) mentioned in other posts. The thai GF thinks I am heading off to HK for business so going to take a taxi back to BKK and then get the pattaya taxi from there, will cost me a couple hundred baht but worth it to keep up the story. My question is should I just have him drop me at departures then is it possible to get down to arrivals where the pattaya taxi would pick up? Or is there a better way? I know it's restricted to go from arrivals up to departures but is the opposite way blocked too?
Thanks for any assistance.I have done just that last October. I was dropped at the departure level, did my business at the terminal, then headed to arrival and met my Pattaya taxi at the meeting point designated for arrivals. Just make sure that your VR taxi service shows up after you get dropped.
Wolvenvacht
12-31-15, 08:10
Going to make my first trip to Pattaya in a couple weeks but starting in Bangkok for a few days to see tha GF #1. Going to probably use the VR taxi service (http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/) mentioned in other posts. The thai GF thinks I am heading off to HK for business so going to take a taxi back to BKK and then get the pattaya taxi from there, will cost me a couple hundred baht but worth it to keep up the story. My question is should I just have him drop me at departures then is it possible to get down to arrivals where the pattaya taxi would pick up? Or is there a better way? I know it's restricted to go from arrivals up to departures but is the opposite way blocked too?
Thanks for any assistance.Inside the terminal building it is possible to move between all levels.
The only restriction is that you cannot get out easily at the departure level.
Inside the terminal building it is possible to move between all levels.
The only restriction is that you cannot get out easily at the departure level.At one time in the past a soldier tried to stop me going from Arrivals level up to Departures. He claimed Farangs had been reported trying to con people at the airport in some way, or steal luggage or some other bullshit. Hard to believe and hard to see relevance on movement between levels. I had to meet someone on Departures so I merely found another way to get there (the lift). Yes I believe there are no restrictions from going from Departures level to Arrivals. Up to taxi whether he wants to deliver to Arrivals level directly or not.
Mr Enternational
12-31-15, 15:08
I got back home to Pattaya last night. I turned my phone on to call a friend who was in town. Soon after I received messages on the Line app on my USA phone from my girlfriend asking if I was back. I am thinking how the hell does she know I am back. She has never asked anything like that before. I am wondering if someone she knows saw me or if my security guy called her.
Well I called my friend later and his phone was turned off. When it was back on it sent me a message saying it was now available. So evidently that is how she knew I was home. Does anyone know if this feature can be turned off?
MichaelSamuel
12-31-15, 19:19
Was that an sms message or line message?
I got back home to Pattaya last night. I turned my phone on to call a friend who was in town. Soon after I received messages on the Line app on my USA phone from my girlfriend asking if I was back. I am thinking how the hell does she know I am back. She has never asked anything like that before. I am wondering if someone she knows saw me or if my security guy called her.
Well I called my friend later and his phone was turned off. When it was back on it sent me a message saying it was now available. So evidently that is how she knew I was home. Does anyone know if this feature can be turned off?
Mr Enternational
12-31-15, 19:54
Was that an sms message or line message?The system sends an SMS to the number you called from to let you know the phone line you tried to call before but could not reach is now open.
LittleBigMan
01-01-16, 02:01
I got back home to Pattaya last night. I turned my phone on to call a friend who was in town. Soon after I received messages on the Line app on my USA phone from my girlfriend asking if I was back. I am thinking how the hell does she know I am back. She has never asked anything like that before. I am wondering if someone she knows saw me or if my security guy called her.
Well I called my friend later and his phone was turned off. When it was back on it sent me a message saying it was now available. So evidently that is how she knew I was home. Does anyone know if this feature can be turned off?I have AIS, it is part of the features in their service. I got busted the same way! Happy New Year. Now I have a Dual Sim Phone.
I got back home to Pattaya last night. I turned my phone on to call a friend who was in town. Soon after I received messages on the Line app on my USA phone from my girlfriend asking if I was back. I am thinking how the hell does she know I am back. She has never asked anything like that before. I am wondering if someone she knows saw me or if my security guy called her.
Well I called my friend later and his phone was turned off. When it was back on it sent me a message saying it was now available. So evidently that is how she knew I was home. Does anyone know if this feature can be turned off?Yes I knew your plan was fraught with danger. I have posted previously on the meed to have more than one SIM card. One for mongering especially when officially not in the country.
It is possible to claim your Thai SIM was switched on in another country. But that may not wash. I am not sure if that will send message to previous callers that your SIM is now on.
In 1991 I could get LT with a lower class Cowboy bargirl for 500 Baht plus BF and drinks. Seems super cheap but the exchange rate was not good in that year. By 1996 I could not do LT and visited Chao Praya 2 Soapy. In section where was not all inclusive, had to pay girl 1 k extra for sex. All up I forget but probably around 1500 including tip to mamasan.
Seems like prices had risen steaply in those 5 years. Then had a few years of high inflation including 1997 financial crisis and much better exchange rates for a while. Then many years of low inflation. I would expect after 20 years of inflation for prices to approx. Double. So for same thing I should be paying double. Indeed I can get roughly same service at a low end soapy for 3 k. Can get a bit cheaper at an Oily or BJ shop, and cheaper still with Street walkers.
So I don't find the modern prices too surprising. Obviously bargirls wanting 3 k for a ST are really asking for too much unless they are stunning and similar for high priced category Soapy girls.
Guys talking to girls about 2 K for LT seem delusional to me (stuck in the past) unless willing to take a very low standard for looks. I can't do that. I do know where to go to get an el cheapo fuck, but doesn't mean I choose that option so often. I do frequent high end soapies far less than before. Just can't find any amazing girls there anymore. The standard of girls has probably declined over the years or I got more fussy, or the fake stuff has just got too dominant.
May have been Utopia in 1997 when 50 Baht to the US dollar, but clearly it could not last. I was hardly in Thailand long enough to take advantage of those rates.
Micky Mouse
01-02-16, 06:59
I have 2 clients coming over for a week to Bangkok and they want Middle Eastern and Indian girls. Any suggestions?
Thanks guys.
Happy 2016 and safe mongering.
Crocodilexp
01-02-16, 16:10
I have 2 clients coming over for a week to Bangkok and they want Middle Eastern and Indian girls. Any suggestions?Middle Eastern (or maybe Central Asian ex-Soviet pretending to be Middle Eastern) hookers hang out near Grace Hotel and Soi 4, the Arab soi, including the clubs in the area.
Indian is going to be difficult, you simply won't reliably find Indian hookers in Bangkok on any given night. On a few occasions, I saw Indian streetwalkers in Yaowarat area (near Wong Wian 22 and surrounding streets), including a very pretty 22 year old for just 500 baht. However, apart from being hit-and-miss (for Indians) the experience is very low-end.
If you're entertaining clients, do some recon first. There's no sure-shot venue with a reliable selection of specific women of the rather uncommon profile you're seeking. If I had to do this, I'd make contacts, do some testing, and call up on them as needed, sticking to the nicer venues for drinking.
Crocodilexp
01-02-16, 16:47
So I don't find the modern prices too surprising.
You're right, prices have not risen by all that much (pretty much in line with Thai inflation). The problem is that we get way worse service than before, and good experiences are few and far between.
I'd be fine with paying 2 k for the service and experience I used to get 10 years ago for 1 k (with roughly the same reliability / flake rate). But that's just not going to happen. Unfortunately, although I could easily pay way more, meh-looking Thai hookers providing perfunctory service (which seems to be the norm these days) is hardly worth much more than 700 baht to me (in a sense that 700 baht worth of eating out would provide a way more pleasurable experience).
My scene were mostly freelancers (mostly from Sukhumwit ain Bangkok, many from Pattaya). About a decade ago, they used to be 20% great, 60% good and 15% underwhelming and 5% bad / unpleasant. Now it's more like 5% great, 30% good, 50% underwhelming and 15% outright bad.
It used to be easy to get decent-looking, fresh woman, to come back to a hotel or apartment 20 min away by taxi for a relaxed 1-2 h session with 2 shots. They mostly appeared to be happy to be with the customer and to enjoy a bit of sex (some of it surely an act, but still, agreeable enough). Now, the norm is that they press for a local short-time hotel, cut the pleasantries and do the job as quickly as they can.
In addition, Thai inflation and wages have gone way faster than Western wages. 1 k baht ($30) was negligible for a western expat or visitor 10-20 years ago, but 2-3 k ($60-$90), while not outrageous, is real money, especially for something of increasingly dubious and uncertain value like short time encoutners these days.
As for long time, in the old days, it used to cost 1. 5 x to 2 x as much as a short time, and women used to prefer it, especially later in the evening. These days, Thai hookers tend to have several ST clients per night, so most cannot be bothered with LT at all. Even when some could be convinced by paying way over the odds, a proper LT requires more chemistry than a ST, which is increasingly lacking, and I don't care to sleep next to someone who'd rather be elsewhere.
I will be soon traveling to Bangkok and would like to know if there is any limit of cash in dollars we can carry at immigration?
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
01-02-16, 21:44
I will be soon traveling to Bangkok and would like to know if there is any limit of cash in dollars we can carry at immigration?
Thanks.I do not think any country really has a limit. You just have to declare if you are carrying over a certain amount.
In addition, Thai inflation and wages have gone way faster than Western wages. 1 k baht ($30) was negligible for a western expat or visitor 10-20 years ago, but 2-3 k ($60-$90), while not outrageous, is real money, especially for something of increasingly dubious and uncertain value like short time encoutners these days.
As for long time, in the old days, it used to cost 1. 5 x to 2 x as much as a short time, and women used to prefer it, especially later in the evening. These days, Thai hookers tend to have several ST clients per night, so most cannot be bothered with LT at all. Even when some could be convinced by paying way over the odds, a proper LT requires more chemistry than a ST, which is increasingly lacking, and I don't care to sleep next to someone who'd rather be elsewhere.Very well put, sir!
Wanderer9577
01-02-16, 22:46
OK, I am finally fulfilling a dream of mine to come to Bangkok for the first time from the USA And have questions about the travel. Especially since this is my first time traveling internationally. Hopefully someone can give me a few tips. I will be coming in March 7-12. My flight goes from New York to Taipei and then to Bangkok. My main question is what do I do once we land in Taipei and I get off the plane. Do I have to go through customs / immigration while I do my 3 HR layover? Or is that only for when I am at my final stop in Bangkok? What about prescribed medications? Is there special paperwork I need or will the information on the bottles be enough? I have already read a lot of the forums concerning prepaid phones and taxis. However, I couldn't find anything talking about the other questions I had. Possibly the answers are already in other forums here and I am not using the correct keywords to search by.
Thanks for any help / tips!
Wanderer9577
01-02-16, 23:04
Since I'll be a newbie coming into Bangkok in March, question about about different bars. I don't drink alcohol. I have tried on different occasions from beer to champagne but never acquired the taste of it. Do these bars offer non-alcoholic drinks or will I just have to buy one or two that I nurse until I spot someone I might want to take back to my room for a bit?
I will be soon traveling to Bangkok and would like to know if there is any limit of cash in dollars we can carry at immigration?
Thanks.Hello,
Thailand has a limit of US $20,000 which has to be declared at customs.
TheTank
I will be soon traveling to Bangkok and would like to know if there is any limit of cash in dollars we can carry at immigration?
Thanks.I researched this question carefully before going to Thailand. The bottom line is that you don't have to worry about how much cash (foreign or baht) you're taking in, although you will need to declare any amount equivalent to $20,000 American dollars or above. The real question relates to how much money you can take out. You can take out as much foreign currency as you would like, but there are limits on how much baht may be taken out of the country. If you're going to a bordering country (plus Vietnam), then you can take out 500,000 baht. Any place else, including the USA, and you are limited to 50,000 baht. Here are the complete rules taken from the Bank of Thailand's website:
Exchange Control Regulations in Thainland.
A Guide for the General Public.
I. Exchange Control Regulations.
A. Rules and Regulations.
The legal basis for exchange control in Thailand is derived from the Exchange Control Act (B. E. 2485) and Ministerial Regulation No. 13 (B. E. 2497) issued under the Exchange Control Act. These laws set out the principles of controls under which Notifications of the Ministry of Finance and Notices of the Competent Officer are issued.
B. Administration.
The Bank of Thailand has been entrusted by the Ministry of Finance with the responsibility of administering foreign exchange. The governor of the Bank of Thailand shall appoint the officials of the Bank of Thailand as the Competent Officers under the Exchange Control Act (B. E. 2485).
All foreign exchange transactions are to be conducted through commercial banks and through authorized non-banks, namely authorized money changers, authorized money transfer agents, and authorized companies, that are granted foreign exchange licenses by the Minister of Finance. Any transactions not conducted through the above-mentioned licensees require approval from the Competent Officer on a case by case basis.
C. Currency Regulations.
1. Foreign Currency.
Foreign currencies can be transferred or brought into Thailand without limit. Any person receiving foreign currencies from abroad is required to repatriate such funds immediately and sell to an authorized bank or deposit them in a foreign currency account with an authorized bank within 360 days of receipt, except for foreigners temporarily staying in Thailand for not more than three months, foreign embassies, international organizations including their staff with diplomatic privileges and immunities, and Thai emigrants who are permanent residents abroad or working abroad.
Purchase of foreign currency from authorized banks is generally allowed upon submission of documents indicating international trade and investment. Companies in Thailand can engage in derivatives transactions with authorized banks to hedge against foreign exchange risk provided that supporting documents indicating future foreign currency receipts or obligations are submitted.
Any person bringing into or taking out of Thailand foreign currency bank notes in an aggregate amount exceeding USD 20,000 or its equivalent must declare to a customs officer.
2. Local Currency.
There is no restriction on the amount of Thai baht bank notes that may be brought into the country. A person traveling to Thailand's bordering countries including Vietnam is allowed to take out up to THB 500,000 and to other countries up to THB 50,000, respectively, without authorization.
II. Bank deposits.
A. Foreign Currency Account of Thai Residents.
Thai residents are allowed to maintain foreign currency accounts with authorized banks, and deposit or withdraw funds from such accounts under the following conditions:
1. Deposit.
(1) Foreign currencies originating from abroad (foreign-source) can be deposited into foreign currency accounts without limit.
(2) Foreign currencies purchased or borrowed from authorized banks (domestic-source) can be deposited into 2 types of foreign currency accounts:
(I) Foreign currency accounts with future obligations: deposits can be made in an amount not exceeding future obligations to pay in foreign currencies to entities abroad. The total outstanding balance shall not exceed USD 1 million for a natural person and USD 100 million for a juristic person. For amount exceeding such limits, authorized banks may accept such a deposit up to the obligations to pay in foreign currencies abroad within 12 months. Such obligations include loan repayment to authorized banks.
(II) Foreign currency accounts without future obligations: the total outstanding balance shall not exceed USD 500,000 for both a natural person and a juristic person.
(3) Deposit of foreign currency notes and coins must not exceed USD 10,000 per person per day.
2. Withdrawal.
(1) For payment to entities abroad of the account holder's own obligations or its subsidiaries' obligations.
(2) For payment to authorized banks of the account holder's own foreign currency liabilities or its subsidiaries' foreign currency liabilities.
(3) For deposit into another foreign currency account of the same account holder.
(4) For conversion into another foreign currency, prior to depositing into another foreign currency account of the same account holder, or for payment to an entity abroad, or for payment of liabilities to an authorized bank.
(5) For conversion into baht.
Thai companies having export proceeds in foreign currency from overseas are allowed to transfer funds from their foreign-source foreign currency accounts to deposit into foreign currency accounts of their counter parties in Thailand for payment of goods or services.
Be. Foreign Currency Account of Nonresidents.
Nonresidents may maintain foreign currency accounts with authorized banks in Thailand without limit. The accounts can be freely credited with funds originating from abroad. Payments from Thai residents or borrowing from authorized banks can be deposited subject to supporting evidences. Balances on such accounts may be freely withdrawn.
See. Nonresident Baht Account.
Nonresidents may open Thai Baht accounts with authorized banks in Thailand as follows:
(1) Non-resident Baht Account for Securities (NRBS): The account may be debited or credited for the purpose of investment in securities and other financial instruments such as equity instruments, debt instruments, unit trusts, derivatives transactions traded on the Thailand Futures Exchange and the Agricultural Futures Exchange of Thailand.
(2) Non-resident Baht Account (NRBA): The account may be debited or credited for general purposes (I. E. Other than investment in securities) such as trade, services, foreign direct investment, investment in immovable assets, and loans.
The total daily outstanding balances for each type of account shall not exceed THB 300 million per nonresident. Transfers between different types of accounts are not allowed.
III. Trade and Services.
A. Exports.
Export proceeds in an amount equivalent to USD 50,000 or above shall be repatriated immediately after payment is received and within 360 days from the export date. The proceeds must be sold to or deposited in a foreign currency account with an authorized bank in Thailand within 360 days of receipt.
B. Imports.
Importers may purchase or withdraw foreign currencies from their own foreign currency accounts for import payments upon submission of supporting documents. Letters of credits may also be opened without authorization.
C. Services.
All proceeds from services in an amount equivalent to USD 50,000 or above shall be repatriated immediately after payment is received and within 360 days from the transaction date. The proceeds must be sold to or deposited in a foreign currency account with an authorized bank in Thailand within 360 days of receipt.
Outward remittances of amounts properly due to nonresidents are permitted for items of a non-capital nature such as service fees, interest, dividends, profits, or royalties provided that supporting documents are submitted to an authorized bank. Traveling expenses or educational expenses of residents are also freely permitted upon submission of supporting documents.
I do not think any country really has a limit. You just have to declare if you are carrying over a certain amount.And the amount is 10,000 US $.
I have 2 clients coming over for a week to Bangkok and they want Middle Eastern and Indian girls. Any suggestions?
Thanks guys.
Happy 2016 and safe mongering.Difficult to find those in high end clubs or massage joints, where I believe you have to bring your customers.
I doubt that you can pick up a hooker from the street for them.
And the amount is 10,000 US $.The amount you need to declare depends on the country. For the US it's $10,000, but for Thailand I believe it's $20,000 based on what I found on the Bank of Thailand site (see my previous post in this thread). Unless they happened to change the rules. Doesn't impact me either way because I never travel with enough cash to cross either limit. I did make sure, though, that on the way out I had less than 50,000 baht on me. I would easily have that much cash when traveling and absolutely didn't want any problems or extra questions coming my way from Thai authorities as I departed for home, perhaps suspecting that I was moving ill-gotten gains or something. No drama Obama here! That's how I like it when it comes to customs and immigration matters. No drama!
JesseJames
01-03-16, 02:59
At one time in the past a soldier tried to stop me going from Arrivals level up to Departures. He claimed Farangs had been reported trying to con people at the airport in some way, or steal luggage or some other bullshit. Hard to believe and hard to see relevance on movement between levels. I had to meet someone on Departures so I merely found another way to get there (the lift). Yes I believe there are no restrictions from going from Departures level to Arrivals. Up to taxi whether he wants to deliver to Arrivals level directly or not.There is a guard at the ramp down to arrivals who stops taxis from going down to arrival. Probably some other way from hotel driveway or something.
OK, I am finally fulfilling a dream of mine to come to Bangkok for the first time from the USA And have questions about the travel. Especially since this is my first time traveling internationally. Hopefully someone can give me a few tips. I will be coming in March 7-12. My flight goes from New York to Taipei and then to Bangkok. My main question is what do I do once we land in Taipei and I get off the plane. Do I have to go through customs / immigration while I do my 3 HR layover? Or is that only for when I am at my final stop in Bangkok? What about prescribed medications? Is there special paperwork I need or will the information on the bottles be enough? I have already read a lot of the forums concerning prepaid phones and taxis. However, I couldn't find anything talking about the other questions I had. Possibly the answers are already in other forums here and I am not using the correct keywords to search by.
Thanks for any help / tips!1. You will be in transit in Taipei. So you won't be going out, but may change gates.
2. In BKK you will be clearing immigration and then collect your bags and go through customs.
3. Have your prescription with you for the medication. Customs may ask you if they want to check your bags. Normally you would go through the green channel if you have nothing to declare. But Customs have a right to check you.
Darmstadter
01-03-16, 04:24
OK, I am finally fulfilling a dream of mine to come to Bangkok for the first time from the USA And have questions about the travel. Especially since this is my first time traveling internationally. Hopefully someone can give me a few tips. I will be coming in March 7-12. My flight goes from New York to Taipei and then to Bangkok. My main question is what do I do once we land in Taipei and I get off the plane. Do I have to go through customs / immigration while I do my 3 HR layover? Or is that only for when I am at my final stop in Bangkok? What about prescribed medications? Is there special paperwork I need or will the information on the bottles be enough? I have already read a lot of the forums concerning prepaid phones and taxis. However, I couldn't find anything talking about the other questions I had. Possibly the answers are already in other forums here and I am not using the correct keywords to search by.
Thanks for any help / tips!I will just miss you as I will be in Thailand March 18th until March 27th. I have never connected in Taipei, but if its like Tokyo and other cities you will go thru security and then to you departing gate for your flight to Bangkok. Are you flying the same airline all the way to Bangkok? Just follow the sign that says international connecting flights. Its either a green or yellow sign.
I always take prescription meds with me and have never had a problem. Just make sure your name is on the bottle. In all my trips to Asia I have never been searched entering a country.
You can buy a GSM unlocked quad band cell phone on ebay for under $100 that will work great. I have the Blu advance 4. 0 that works great.
When you arrive in Bangkok and once they stamp your passport, baggage claim is right there along with exchange booths if you need some thai baht to get you to your hotel. You will get a better rate in the city center. Exit out of door B and off to your right will be a True sim card booth. Give them your phone and they will set it up for you. It should be 299 baht for 1 week of service including calls to the USA.
I hope you have a great trip. This time I'm connecting thru Singapore and spending my time in Phuket Thailand.
Good Luck!!
LittleBigMan
01-03-16, 06:20
OK, I am finally fulfilling a dream of mine to come to Bangkok for the first time from the USA And have questions about the travel. Especially since this is my first time traveling internationally. Hopefully someone can give me a few tips. I will be coming in March 7-12. My flight goes from New York to Taipei and then to Bangkok. My main question is what do I do once we land in Taipei and I get off the plane. Do I have to go through customs / immigration while I do my 3 HR layover? Or is that only for when I am at my final stop in Bangkok? What about prescribed medications? Is there special paperwork I need or will the information on the bottles be enough? I have already read a lot of the forums concerning prepaid phones and taxis. However, I couldn't find anything talking about the other questions I had. Possibly the answers are already in other forums here and I am not using the correct keywords to search by.
Thanks for any help / tips!V.
S.
Sounds like you might be using Eva Air through Taipei to Bangkok? Years ago I stop using any Airline that goes through Japan, the crowds and the security lines to catch connecting flight just got too much for me. So for the last eight years I've use Eva since in goes through Taipei. It lacks the crowds and the security lines for my connection. You are basically label ' Transit " you do not need to fill out a Immigration form for Taipei and go through Immigration. If you get to a point you go to a booth and they ask you for a form you have made a mistake if you can turn back. Basically do not go to ' Baggage claim since the bags have already been check all the way to Bangkok. Your baggage receipts should be place on the back of your Passport if you need them. Follow the signs to " Transfer " when you get there you will see a small counter the area should be rope off leading you through the Transfer area through security area. Like in the US, you will need to put your hand carry and stuff through the x-ray. Here I have found the security is much more lacks. You do not need to take your shoes or belt off, Take your watch, metal items coins etc. Into a hand carry compartment and place the bag on the belt. Pull your jacket on the plastic tray and send everything through. Personally I have never taken my laptop out of my hand carry or backpack, I just put the whole thing through. When you are done follow the path to the escalator and go up to the boarding area and look for your Boarding gate to Bangkok. You should have enough time to use Internet which is free in the area and get a bite to eat. Check out the Airline Vip area upstairs from this area, there are more foods vendors like Burger King etc. Outside of the club area. On the flight you will be given a white from TM-6, that form is to go through Immigration. On the form in the area where you are staying just put down one of the Hotel your are staying at. Once you are in Bangkok, follow the sign for "Baggage claim" that will take you to Immigration, go to foreign visitors. Thereafter you are out, go the the baggage area for your flight number. Once you get your bags you look for the exit "Custom nothing to declare" You might get stop pull over to have your bags scan again. What I do is get my bag I slowly walk to the Custom area, passport in hand, but I visually look and slow down before I get there and let people go ahead so they might get pull over first and then I just walk through. If you do get pull over, you do not need to remove your shoes etc.. like before they just want to scan you bags for drugs and excess items you might try to slip in to sell? Once outside there are places to exchange some money for taxi transportation? If you are bring cash bring the best 100 dollar bills where Benjamin face is not mess up and the bill look like new. You get a higher rate for 100 bills.The rate is much lower so change only what you need, the rate should be better when you look around. Do not change money at your hotel it is much lower. If you are taking a taxi go to the next level down and follow the signs to Taxi, tell the person where you need to go, they will give you a slip, to what line. Make sure the guy use the meter do not pay a flat rate! Say meter! Should be something like 400 baht to your hotel in Bangkok, if you are going directly to Pattaya, it should be 1500 Baht including all the tolls. I usually just give the guy a tip of 100 baht if he takes me to Pattaya. P-drugs keep them in original bottles and keep them with you in hang carry.
Good luck rookie enjoy. Now read the rest of the board as to where to go and how much in general you should pay!
Wolvenvacht
01-03-16, 09:16
I will be soon traveling to Bangkok and would like to know if there is any limit of cash in dollars we can carry at immigration?
Thanks.The IATA website (http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/TH-Thailand-customs-currency-airport-tax-regulations-details.htm) has the following:
Currency rules - Currency Import regulations:
Local currency: up to THB 50,000.- per person or THB 100,000.- per family holding one passport.
Foreign currencies: unlimited. However, amounts of foreign currency exceeding USD 20,000.- (or equivalent) must be declared to a Customs Officer upon arrival by all travellers.
Currency Export regulations:
Local currency: up to THB 50,000.- per person or THB 100,000.- per family holding one passport.
Foreign currencies: unlimited. However, amounts of foreign currency exceeding USD 20,000.- (or equivalent) must be declared to a Customs Officer upon departure by all travellers.
The Thai Customs website (http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/travellers/arriving+in+thailand/arrivinginthailand) confirms this:
Foreign Currency
Travelers bringing foreign currency more than USD 20,000 or its equivalent into or out of Thailand are required to make a report to Customs. This report is required by the Ministerial Regulation (No. 25) B.E. 2530 issued under the Authority of the Currency Exchange Control Act B.E. 2485 and relevant regulations.
The Regulation and Notification require that travelers bringing foreign currency, both a bank note and a coin, with the total aggregate value exceeding USD 20,000 or its equivalent, must report it to a Customs officer at a port/airport of entry or exit, using the given Foreign Currency Declaration Form. The travelers must complete, sign, and submit the Form to report their foreign currency where such currency are physically carried by a person arriving in or departing from Thailand, or where they form part of the persons baggage and that person and his or her baggage are being carried on board the same conveyance across the border.
A person who reports currency has to answer truthfully any questions that a border services officer asks about the information required for the report.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-16, 09:31
Since I'll be a newbie coming into Bangkok in March, question about about different bars. I don't drink alcohol. I have tried on different occasions from beer to champagne but never acquired the taste of it. Do these bars offer non-alcoholic drinks or will I just have to buy one or two that I nurse until I spot someone I might want to take back to my room for a bit?I never drink alcohol and nobody will look strange at you if you ask for a "naam soda" (sparkling water) or some other soft drink. Many times even the bargirls congratulated me for not drinking alcohol and then were happy to order a softdrink for themselves as well.
Mind you, the price of a beer or water will be the same and at "happy hour" I have noticed that beer was cheaper than water!
Of course the price for a ladydrink remains the same whether or not it has any alcohol in it. You are not paying for the drink but for the girl's time.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-16, 09:47
What about prescribed medications? Is there special paperwork I need or will the information on the bottles be enough?It is always a good idea to keep a copy of the original prescription with you when traveling internationally.
Thailand is a signatory or accessory of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, the Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971, and the United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988 and this imposes specific rules on the import of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances even when properly prescribed by a doctor in your home country.
For Thailand a summary of the rules on legal import of these substances is found at https://www.incb.org/documents/Psychotropics/guidelines/travel-regulations/2013-travellers-update/THA_23_September_2013_table_ENG_03099.pdf.
Note that next to the "usual" narcotic drugs, the 1988 convention added such simple things as "ephedrine" to the list of controlled substances. Ephedrine, norephedrine and pseudoephedrine are commonly found in nasal decongestant sprays (in many countries available on prescription only) but are actually amphetamine analogues. Thailand has a long history of amphetamine (ab)use. "Ice" or "yaba" as it is called in Thailand is still very much around in the sex industry, with regular raids and tests in the bars and clubs. So watch out with that nasal spray for your cold!.
I never drink alcohol and nobody will look strange at you if you ask for a "naam soda" (sparkling water) or some other soft drink. I have and they do look at me strange. Eventually I learned that Thai for Soda Water is not "naam soda" but rather just "soda". Otherwise they might think you want a mixture of water and Soda, or are just confused. Strange but true. "naam som" is orange juice because "som" by itself is an orange not a liquid. However Soda has no solid form its already a liquid.
I used "naam soda" incorrectly for years I guess and wondered why I got puzzled looks sometimes, although I often drink Pineapple juice, tomato juice, "naam manao" Lime drink, and Coke Light. "naam lae" means mineral water (probably they don't have it). "naam ut lom" means any sparkling fizzy drink. I am not sure now if Tonic Water is officially "naam Tonic" or just "tonic", even though I drink it occasionally.
I am not a tee-totaler, however as I am a not easy to cum person, alcohol just dulls the senses and makes it even more difficult. I drink after sex but not more than one before sex. I drink with girls if no intention of fucking anyone. I drink almost anything except not beer. Beer really stinks on some guys over doing it. Some girls dislike beer smell. Others drink beer themselves.
A can of Coke light costs me 160 Baht in Crazy House but it lasts me for a while. Girl drinks usually costs me more than my own drinks.
Its useful to buy girls at least two tequilas if they have not already been drinking "yaa dong" from out the front, and if the girl is a shy type. The girl drinks can be used as "leg openers". Some girls can be almost star fish with no alcohol but become quite passionate with just a few drinks in them. Hard to believe but I have seen the transformation myself. May-Lee was a fabulous looker. Rather poor performance the first time, just let me fuck her and that was it, but 2nd time she was quite enthusiastic and enjoyable. I put it down to the drinks loosening up her sexual desires, the 2nd time. Could not think of something else. Very young Go go girls are not naturally really wild in general. Just a few exceptions. Alcohol makes her forget I am not old and average looking. LOL.
On the other hand, never take a really drunk girl. I have had too many bad experiences with dunk girls. So never buy her too many tequilas if you want good sex. Also try to find out how much alcohol she got from other sources.
I am hopelessly addicted to sleek beautiful bare pussy, cute ass, and beautiful natural tits. So I don't mind to buy a few drinks to pay for the entertainment and running the bar. If anyone thinks the bar makes its money from barfines, think again. Selling drinks is the main business. I am very well treated at my regular bars, because I am willing to spend money. Very stingy customers who sit on a drink all night are not desired customers. This is a major cause of racial stereotyping discrimination, I assume. The bars want customers expected to most likely spend some money and behave generally well, treat the girls well, and not cause problems.
It is always a good idea to keep a copy of the original prescription with you when traveling internationally.
Ephedrine, norephedrine and pseudoephedrine are commonly found in nasal decongestant sprays (in many countries available on prescription only) but are actually amphetamine analogues. Thailand has a long history of amphetamine (ab)use. "Ice" or "yaba" as it is called in Thailand is still very much around in the sex industry, with regular raids and tests in the bars and clubs. So watch out with that nasal spray for your cold!.Japan can be very strict in some products as nasal decongestant, even if freely sold in any pharmacy's counter and of innocents brands as Vicks. It all depends on the active product in it.
I noticed lot of bar girls buys, at 7-11 or Family Marts, small bottles of these decongestant to inhalate.
I doubt they all had a flu or breathing problems, so they might find some "relief" by inhalating it.
I never drink alcohol and nobody will look strange at you if you ask for a "naam soda" (sparkling water) or some other soft drink. Many times even the bargirls congratulated me for not drinking alcohol and then were happy to order a softdrink for themselves as well.
Mind you, the price of a beer or water will be the same and at "happy hour" I have noticed that beer was cheaper than water!
Of course the price for a ladydrink remains the same whether or not it has any alcohol in it. You are not paying for the drink but for the girl's time.I too tend to drink water, soda or OJ as I can't drink (and not venue much keen to) too much alcohol.
Never had a problem as long as you keep the drinks flowing for you and the girls. At the end, all what they want is you spending and be it water or soda or juice their revenues are assured. Probably with more margin as nobody compares much the price of a water bottle as people does on a beer or a cocktail.
The IATA website (http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/TH-Thailand-customs-currency-airport-tax-regulations-details.htm) has the following:
The Thai Customs website (http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/travellers/arriving+in+thailand/arrivinginthailand) confirms this:One has also to check how much he can take out of his own country.
Vietnam has quite a low foreign currency limit when entering.
Better check as they do have a specific customs X-ray machine before passport control when exiting and they can catch you up.
If it exceeds the limit and wasn't declared when entering you are bound for possible trouble.
Play cool, a bit dumb and go by the wind when the officer will ask you how to sort to sort this out.
As you know their salaries are not high and they like tea as in Thailand.
Wanderer9577
01-03-16, 22:59
Thanks for all of the information! Everything you mentioned have really helped to relieve the majority of the anxiety I was feeling. Yes, I am using EVA and I have been reading up on everything in the forums that I possibly can. I know I will definitely do it all again in the days right before my flight! Now to make it through these two months!
V.
S.
Sounds like you might be using Eva Air through Taipei to Bangkok? Years ago I stop using any Airline that goes through Japan, the crowds and the security lines to catch connecting flight just got too much for me. So for the last eight years I've use Eva since in goes through Taipei. It lacks the crowds and the security lines for my connection. You are basically label ' Transit " you do not need to fill out a Immigration form for Taipei and go through Immigration. If you get to a point you go to a booth and they ask you for a form you have made a mistake if you can turn back. Basically do not go to ' Baggage claim since the bags have already been check all the way to Bangkok. Your baggage receipts should be place on the back of your Passport if you need them. Follow the signs to " Transfer " when you get there you will see a small counter the area should be rope off leading you through the Transfer area through security area. Like in the US, you will need to put your hand carry and stuff through the x-ray. Here I have found the security is much more lacks. You do not need to take your shoes or belt off, Take your watch, metal items coins etc. Into a hand carry compartment and place the bag on the belt. Pull your jacket on the plastic tray and send everything through. Personally I have never taken my laptop out of my hand carry or backpack, I just put the whole thing through. When you are done follow the path to the escalator and go up to the boarding area and look for your Boarding gate to Bangkok...
Wanderer9577
01-03-16, 23:01
I too tend to drink water, soda or OJ as I can't drink (and not venue much keen to) too much alcohol.
Never had a problem as long as you keep the drinks flowing for you and the girls. At the end, all what they want is you spending and be it water or soda or juice their revenues are assured. Probably with more margin as nobody compares much the price of a water bottle as people does on a beer or a cocktail.Thanks! I knew they had to have something other than alcohol for people to drink but wanted to confirm.
I never drink alcohol and nobody will look strange at you if you ask for a "naam soda" (sparkling water) or some other soft drink. Many times even the bargirls congratulated me for not drinking alcohol and then were happy to order a softdrink for themselves as well.
Mind you, the price of a beer or water will be the same and at "happy hour" I have noticed that beer was cheaper than water!
Of course the price for a ladydrink remains the same whether or not it has any alcohol in it. You are not paying for the drink but for the girl's time.I rarely drink alcohol and sometimes get a goofy reaction to my ordering "nam pow" (some say "nam plow"), bottled water, in the bars. Eye rolling, shaking head, even got a comment about whether I was a man or a lady from the server who took my order. In that case as well as a couple of others, I immediately stood up, told the server to cancel that order and walked out with the server seeming dumbfounded and clamoring after me to please come back. I kept walking. That was Shark go-go bar in Soi Cowboy. On a night when it looked to me they needed as many paying customers as possible.
I have also cancelled and walked out of Crazy House when the server made a show of disapproval over my order of bottled water.
It happened twice in Crazy House. Once was upstairs where the fat waitress actually stood there and refused to move on my order because, "We don't serve nam pow. Men come here to drink alcohol. " No joke. And I am quite a regular customer there, buy plenty of Lady Drinks, have barfined several girls, often repeats, get calls from the girls, begging me to come see them again ASAP.
On that upstairs occasion I told the fat waiteess, "No problem, I know other bars that serve nam pow, bye-bye." I had come there to barfine a girl for the third or fourth time at her urgent request. But that waitress got to me first, I walked out, had a cute girl from a different bar on my arm within the hour. When I Lined my Crazy House lady what happened she was none too pleased and suspect had a few words about it with fatty.
Unlike what has been said here, I probably get as much pressure to buy alcohol rather than water, pineapple juice or Coke Light / Zero from the girls as I get positive comments from them about it. Maybe more. Many girls are adament about getting some beers into me. Perhaps they see it as a wallet opener as much as some customers see it as a leg opener. 555.
None of the pressure or bad reaction stops me from ordering what I damn well please or walking out the door if they don't like it.
I rarely drink alcohol and sometimes get a goofy reaction to my ordering "nam pow" (some say "nam plow"), bottled water, in the bars. Eye rolling, shaking head, even got a comment about whether I was a man or a lady from the server who took my order. In that case as well as a couple of others, I immediately stood up, told the server to cancel that order and walked out with the server seeming dumbfounded and clamoring after me to please come back. I kept walking. That was Shark go-go bar in Soi Cowboy. On a night when it looked to me they needed as many paying customers as possible.
I have also cancelled and walked out of Crazy House when the server made a show of disapproval over my order of bottled water.
Unlike what has been said here, I probably get as much pressure to buy alcohol rather than water, pineapple juice or Coke Light / Zero from the girls as I get positive comments from them about it. Maybe more. Many girls are adament about getting some beers into me. Perhaps they see it as a wallet opener as much as some customers see it as a leg opener. 555.
None of the pressure or bad reaction stops me from ordering what I damn well please or walking out the door if they don't like it.You are too sensitive. Staff Jibes or jokes are like water off a duck's back to me. I just totally ignore staff that irritate me. If they block my view I will ask them to move away. I hardly ever encountered a comment about drinking ladies drinks, maybe because girls don't like Soda, Tonic or Coke Light. Staff are more likely disapproving if they think you will sit on a bottle of water all night. I don't allow others to spoil my evening too easily. Buddhism would teach to not to be influenced by the idiots in the world. Just ignore them. I ignore the papasan, and certain waiting staff that are annoying in CH. Every bar will have some dickhead staff. Accept it.
I never get pushed about beers. Girls do try to get me to drink Tequilas, since they disappear far faster than any other drink, so more lucrative. Yes I agree with wallet opener part too. Does a tipsy guy remember to count his drinks? LOL.
I believe that drinking non-alcoholic is thoroughly accepted. I have no problems. I do not attend Sharks though. Last time there was very very dull. Definitely a bar that went badly downhill in my view while Baccara still going very strong indeed with massive takings per day. They must be doing something right even though I don't like Baccara in general. To be fair, most bars have gone down hill over the years, including Long Gun, Deva Vu, Doll House, Suzie Wong, most of the bars that I used to like. Even Crazy House line up average standard has dropped at times over its two years or so, as with increased business they need more girls and are forced to take some not so stunning girls. Sheba was good fun bar but it disappeared.
With most bars, the decline comes with decreasing customers, and difficulty to attract young stunners with no baby. The monthly salaries are not as attractive as they once were.
You are too sensitive. Staff Jibes or jokes are like water off a duck's back to me. I just totally ignore staff that irritate me. If they block my view I will ask them to move away. I hardly ever encountered a comment about drinking ladies drinks, maybe because girls don't like Soda, Tonic or Coke Light. Staff are more likely disapproving if they think you will sit on a bottle of water all night. I don't allow others to spoil my evening too easily. Buddhism would teach to not to be influenced by the idiots in the world. Just ignore them. I ignore the papasan, and certain waiting staff that are annoying in CH. Every bar will have some dickhead staff. Accept it.Interesting, but I believe my level of sensitivity, acceptance and good humor is exactly right and wouldn't change a thing about it. Why would I? My schedule of attractive and sexy young women who give me much better sex than what I read all too often from others here is so full I cannot accommodate half of them in the course of a month. And I'm betting I spend quite a bit less for it than others as well. What gave you the idea that what I posted about this spoiled the next 5 minutes of my evening, much less my night?
I think I have done pretty well in life, with the ladies in and out of the bars, with the expenditures for it, with my satisfaction and pleasure in it, with the people I do business with and have become friends with without the admonishments about how I ought to feel about it and behave from others just fine. But thanks for your concern all the same. And not that you should stop teaching us how high your standards are and all. It is still usually an entertaining read.
You are too sensitive. Staff Jibes or jokes are like water off a duck's back to me. I just totally ignore staff that irritate me. If they block my view I will ask them to move away. I hardly ever encountered a comment about drinking ladies drinks, maybe because girls don't like Soda, Tonic or Coke Light. Staff are more likely disapproving if they think you will sit on a bottle of water all night. I don't allow others to spoil my evening too easily. Buddhism would teach to not to be influenced by the idiots in the world. Just ignore them. I ignore the papasan, and certain waiting staff that are annoying in CH. Every bar will have some dickhead staff. Accept it.
I never get pushed about beers. Girls do try to get me to drink Tequilas, since they disappear far faster than any other drink, so more lucrative. Yes I agree with wallet opener part too. Does a tipsy guy remember to count his drinks? LOL.
I believe that drinking non-alcoholic is thoroughly accepted. I have no problems. I do not attend Sharks though. Last time there was very very dull. Definitely a bar that went badly downhill in my view while Baccara still going very strong indeed with massive takings per day. They must be doing something right even though I don't like Baccara in general. To be fair, most bars have gone down hill over the years, including Long Gun, Deva Vu, Doll House, Suzie Wong, most of the bars that I used to like. Even Crazy House line up average standard has dropped at times over its two years or so, as with increased business they need more girls and are forced to take some not so stunning girls. Sheba was good fun bar but it disappeared.
With most bars, the decline comes with decreasing customers, and difficulty to attract young stunners with no baby. The monthly salaries are not as attractive as they once were.FWIW, I usually order soda water and don't remember any staff at a go-go (or soapy) commenting negatively about it. On the other hand, if staff made a comment I considered joking around, I doubt I would remember that.
Having said this, I am not a regular at the go-go's, and suppose if I were at some point maybe someone would say something negative. But I suspect there are a fair number of us who prefer to not drink alcohol, or at least not much, at the go-go's since it can interfere, at least for some, with good sex.
But I suspect there are a fair number of us who prefer to not drink alcohol, or at least not much, at the go-go's since it can interfere, at least for some, with good sex.Yes, that would be me. And I see that I share that characteristic with Syzygies, too. In fact, it is my experience that more than 2-3 alcoholic drinks in the girl interferes with the best sex she has to offer as well. I just think there are more effective methods of getting their legs open, their honey pots welcoming and eager. Their mouths, too, for that matter. 555.
Blanquiceleste
01-04-16, 12:33
....So I don't find the modern prices too surprising. Obviously bargirls wanting 3 k for a ST are really asking for too much unless they are stunning and similar for high priced category Soapy girls.
Guys talking to girls about 2 K for LT seem delusional to me (stuck in the past) unless willing to take a very low standard for looks. I can't do that. I do know where to go to get an el cheapo fuck, but doesn't mean I choose that option so often. I do frequent high end soapies far less than before. Just can't find any amazing girls there anymore. The standard of girls has probably declined over the years or I got more fussy, or the fake stuff has just got too dominant.
Very well put. I guess most of us here are willing to welcome the new pricing structures provided the quality of girls and the services they provide are equally high end. That said, I have never been inside Lords, but when I hear a price of 7000 to 10000 THB for a soapy I go a bit weak in my knees. I simply cannot begin to describe the expectation I would have for that kind of money!!
KeepItBurnin
01-07-16, 16:20
Hi guys. Planning on visiting Thailand for a week. Do you think 2000 usd is enough for a week?
Crocodilexp
01-07-16, 17:29
Hi guys. Planning on visiting Thailand for a week. Do you think 2000 usd is enough for a week?
Yes, about 300 usd / day should be comfortable for most people (for a hotel, booze and hookers). You won't be on the low end surely, but it's not particularly difficult to spend more than that these days either.
Wolvenvacht
01-07-16, 20:17
Hi guys. Planning on visiting Thailand for a week. Do you think 2000 usd is enough for a week?I budget about 100 USD per day for lodging and food and an average of 150 USD per day for "entertainment", but I don't drink alcohol and I am quite satisfied with one girl per day, either ST or LT.
NamasteParis
01-07-16, 23:11
Hi!
I'm coming to Thailand from 08 Apr till 25. Songkran (water holiday) is 13 to 15.
Where do you advise me to spend these 3 funny days? Bangkok? Chang Mai? Phuket? Koh Samui?
Hi!
I'm coming to Thailand from 08 Apr till 25. Songkran (water holiday) is 13 to 15.
Where do you advise me to spend these 3 funny days? Bangkok? Chang Mai? Phuket? Koh Samui?If you come for sex purposes, Bangkok and Pattaya has the most variety and options. Phuket 2nd. If you come purely as a tourist, that is different.
Some girls leave Bangkok for their home province during Songkran but not all.
Member #4698
01-08-16, 06:31
I'm coming to Thailand from 08 Apr till 25. Songkran (water holiday) is 13 to 15. Where do you advise me to spend these 3 funny days? Bangkok? Chang Mai? Phuket? Koh Samui?Syzygies is right. Many girls leave BKK and Pattaya to be home with their families over the Songkran Holiday, but a sufficient number of girls remain behind so you will not have too much of a problem getting laid. The question is: Do You want to be around for Songkran? If you do decide to stay in Thailand you are going to get wet. I suppose that if you have never experienced this holiday and you have the right attitude about it, you can have a real good time. It is a festive occasion. On the other hand, you can just get out of Dodge City for a few days and be none the worse off for skipping it. To that end I suggest a 3 or 4 day lay over in Phnom Penh. PP is close by (a 45 minute flight), the food is tasty, its a Buddhist country, and there are plenty of bars and friendly girls. The only problem is "everybody" leaves Thailand over Songkran so air fares nearly double from the 11th to the 18th of April. Another alternative is to head for a quiet island beach like Koh Chang where everything will be more relaxed. Koh Chang is a beautiful island with good beaches, not many bars, and it is approximately a 4 hour drive from BKK or 3 hours from Pattaya.
Hi!
I'm coming to Thailand from 08 Apr till 25. Songkran (water holiday) is 13 to 15.
Where do you advise me to spend these 3 funny days? Bangkok? Chang Mai? Phuket? Koh Samui?I recommend you avoid Songkran like the plague.
All you will see is Westerners, who will have no idea what the purpose of Songkran is, behave like absolute fuckwits. If you are anything like me, it will be one of those times when you are embarrassed to be a white honky. You will also get very wet in the process. Go elsewhere.
Wolvenvacht
01-08-16, 07:57
Hi!
I'm coming to Thailand from 08 Apr till 25. Songkran (water holiday) is 13 to 15.
Where do you advise me to spend these 3 funny days? Bangkok? Chang Mai? Phuket? Koh Samui?I have been in Bangkok during Songkran. Some places (Nana or Soi Cowboy for example) were a riot, but wet and fun. Other streets were calm (or busy) as usual. So Bangkok allows one to experience Songkran as one wants.
However it was not a good time to find a girl. Most had lots of fun, but the mongering business was not at the forefront of their attention.
But Songkran also causes a lot of "eye candy"! "Pointy nipples + wet t-shirts" (wink wink).
NamasteParis
01-08-16, 21:16
I have been in Bangkok during Songkran. Some places (Nana or Soi Cowboy for example) were a riot, but wet and fun. Other streets were calm (or busy) as usual. So Bangkok allows one to experience Songkran as one wants.
However it was not a good time to find a girl. Most had lots of fun, but the mongering business was not at the forefront of their attention.
But Songkran also causes a lot of "eye candy"! "Pointy nipples + wet t-shirts" (wink wink).I actually choose my dates to enjoy Songkran. I already enjoyed one, and have good memories of a crazy night in a night club, where they provided a water gun to each visitor at the entrance.
I had a lot of fun, fighting with the girls with these tiny water guns, inside the disco! Hopefully there was no short-circuit, nor fire.
Don't worry, I intend to get wet, before make them wet!
KeepItBurnin
01-08-16, 23:34
Thank you for the quick updates guys. Much appreciated. I got some few questions.
Is there any hotel you recommend where I easily can get girls?
Also I want to get a russian girl for one night. Where can I find one?
Is there any website with true pictures if I don't want to go out on one night?
And one last thing where to get the most good looking girls?
Thanks a lot.
PaulAlbert
01-09-16, 00:40
Hi guys,
I will be travelling to Thailand in May and I have a question, is Bangkok alone worthy enough of a sex trip. What I mean is that I want a mix of sex and culture and it looks like Pattaya might just be all about sex. If I where to spend 2 weeks in Bangkok would I be limiting myself or would I have more options then I would know what to do with, I'm a oil massage, freelancer, beer bar girl type of guy, not really into short with a gogo girl.
ProfessorOak
01-09-16, 06:27
Hello everyone,
I am new here and I am very fascinated by all the insightful posts you guys put up. I am 22 years old as of right now and I've been venturing to Tijuana and DR for the past 3 years con questing most of it respectively. I think I'm ready to venture east, first question is Bangkok or Pattaya? I will probably go for an extended time in the summer, maybe 10-14 days. What should I expect price wise? What should I expect my first time? I am also nervous, I'm paranoid that I'll strike out because I don't look like the typical western sex tourist. I've noticed most of you gentlemen are older than I am and I feel like I won't be taken as serious as many of you would. How does it work? Is it like a hooker type deal where you offer money? Or you charm and wine and dine the lady and tip her accordingly? If possible, this is a stretch I would love to tag along" per say. Not so much an entire trip just maybe if our dates intersect teach me a few things and show me some spots one afternoon? Idk I'm getting ahead of myself. Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you!
Hi guys,
I will be travelling to Thailand in May and I have a question, is Bangkok alone worthy enough of a sex trip. What I mean is that I want a mix of sex and culture and it looks like Pattaya might just be all about sex. If I where to spend 2 weeks in Bangkok would I be limiting myself or would I have more options then I would know what to do with, I'm a oil massage, freelancer, beer bar girl type of guy, not really into short with a gogo girl.Why do you ask the same questions again and again. Read all the reports and you get answers.
Wolvenvacht
01-09-16, 09:46
Thank you for the quick updates guys. Much appreciated. I got some few questions.
Is there any hotel you recommend where I easily can get girls?
Also I want to get a russian girl for one night. Where can I find one?
Is there any website with true pictures if I don't want to go out on one night?
And one last thing where to get the most good looking girls?
Thanks a lot.You want to stay in a hotel full of hookers? Not my cup of tea, but Grace Hotel seems to answer that description. Reviews are mixed at best (https://www.tripadvisor.in/Hotel_Review-g293916-d594420-Reviews-Grace_Hotel-Bangkok.html).
You will also find "russian" girls there, although they are more likely to be from one of the non-russian parts of the ex soviet union. I have never gone with one of them, so I have no idea if they are worth their price.
Websites with true pictures? You mean with escort girls you can order? Have a look at the escort forum here. Some are real pictures but from years ago, some are photoshopped, some are pure "bait & switch" and it changes continuously.
"Most good looking girls"? It depends on your definition of "most good looking girls". For me it is in Suzie Wong agogo club in Soi Cowboy, but I doubt we have the same taste in women.
Thank you for the quick updates guys. Much appreciated. I got some few questions.
Is there any hotel you recommend where I easily can get girls?
Also I want to get a russian girl for one night. Where can I find one?
Is there any website with true pictures if I don't want to go out on one night?
And one last thing where to get the most good looking girls?
Thanks a lot.For Russian girls in Bangkok, wish I could go there soon its been a year already.
The best place for CIS chicks in bkk is MIXX club in the basement of intercontinental hotel each and every taxi knows about it and will take you free as they get paid by the hotel 50 bht per passenger there are some model nights and they have exceptionally beautiful girls there but you have to be a high roller. Secondly in Shock 39 , then Bossy Club, Then some at the Spasso in the Grand Hyatt Erawan.
For early night action in Soi 4 there is Rajah Hotel just go in the Lobby and you will find some mamasans or pimps for Russian girls, if you can speak Arabic then Grace hotel in the coffee shop or there disco down you will find a mix of 2 kg make up beauties. If you want to live inside a brothel book in the omni tower on the same road just a bit far away and you will find many by the pool and breakfast in the morning.
For late night action just opposite grace is bamboo bear bar and disco some of the ladies will come here for late night food and work together, if you are lucky you will also find some Moroccan or Arabic ladies here also there to be found.
Regarding the best looking girls in BKK, they are everywhere maybe the soapies but I am not a MP or escort guy, I like to hunt and have fun.
Cheer,
Alex
Etaoin2003
01-09-16, 18:53
Hello everyone,
I think I'm ready to venture east, first question is Bangkok or Pattaya?
One's a beach. One's a city. Your call.
What should I expect price wise? Low end BJ 500, sex 1000. From there the sky is the limit.
What should I expect my first time? I am also nervous, I'm paranoid that I'll strike out because I don't look like the typical western sex tourist. It's a commercial transaction. Do you have two heads and fly a saucer? Your money is the same as everybody else's. Just don't be an asshole.
Is it like a hooker type deal where you offer money? Or you charm and wine and dine the lady and tip her accordingly? Yes.
Read http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction until you're crosseyed and you'll begin to get the picture.
Low end BJ 500, sex 1000. From there the sky is the limit.
On the day I had to fly out recently at Pattaya, I had a few hours to spare after checkout and found the tartiest looking young gal in a row of seedy masage parlors in the road leading down from Soi Diana. The 500 B BJ turned out to be extraordinarily good! So much that it's now going to be a fixed part of my itinerary on checkout day. Seedy place with curtains between beds and noisy slurpy smack smack sounds from all around, but a superb feeling receiving her skillful manipulations with her mouth. At first I was appalled at how she made no attempt to hush her slurpy sounds, but pretty soon there was a symphony of slurping and smacking sounds from behind all the other curtains, in chorus with my gals - like a group of crickets chirrrping together after a spell of rain, and I relaxed. You will never get to hear a BJ symphony anywhere else in the world but here. It helped that I lasted a full 25 mins before shooting my load, enjoyed it for that much longer and she never complained or reduced the level of effort even for a single minute because she was tired or something. Any other bar gal you take for 2000B or more will surely complain or make a face by the end of 10 mins. It takes talent at the level of training of a circus artiste or acrobat to perform like that.
Don't mistake low end price for low end experience. I don't know how many women back in my city can give head with the same level of skill.
P.
... I ... found the tartiest looking young gal in a row of seedy massage parlors in the road leading down from Soi Diana. P.Do you mean Soi Honey which runs parallel East and West with Soi Diana? That's where the row of seedy parlors is.
Anyway, excellent report. I got a vicarious thrill out of all that slurping.
Do you mean Soi Honey which runs parallel East and West with Soi Diana? That's where the row of seedy parlors is.
Anyway, excellent report. I got a vicarious thrill out of all that slurping.I didn't check the map as I strolled around and chanced upon it, but it must be the one.
A note about the skill level of the gal. This wasn't a "dull" erection that took 25 minutes to reach the peak pleasure zone, it was a state of heightened pleasure nearing the peak levels from the word go. I told her when I was approaching the shoot and she immediately switched from hand+tounge tip technique to a pumping swallowing motion for the CIM. Interestingly my first experience where the gal lathers the shaft with coconut oil and then swallows and licks it up.
She deserves a standing applause - from my throbbing member the next time again of course!
Cheers
P.
Hi all.... Been mostly on the "Tijuana" part of this site, but sometimes I keep an eye on this part as well (Thailand). Planned to go last year in October, but the trip fell through with a couple of friends at the last moment. Not fun at all. The plan was to spend 5 days in Pattaya, 4 days in Chiang Mai (Am I spelling that right? And the last 4 days in Bangkok. My friends mostly wanted to do beach stuff (cool with me), but my interest was in three (3) areas: Food, Golf and the Female persuasion of course. However, as for the golf, I realized that a lot of the courses I wanted to play required a taxi or whatever to get there and they were like $60 or $80 round-trip as well as an hour or so away. Does anyone here have any thoughts about this? Also, most of the courses didn't seem to like the idea of booking a round / tee-time for a "single" player. It seemed like a real hassle actually, but there were courses there that I really would have like to have played. The plan is to still travel there this year (perhaps Sept. Or Oct.). Anyways, it sounded like a cool trip, but any thoughts that people here might have about where to go for golf would be appreciated. Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the idea of spending 4 or 5 days in each of the spots I listed above?
[QUOTE=Caprese7;1824537 Hi all. Been mostly on the "Tijuana" part of this site, but sometimes I keep an eye on this part as well (Thailand). Planned to go last year in October, but the trip fell through with a couple of friends at the last moment. Not fun at all. The plan was to spend 5 days in Pattaya, 4 days in Chiang Mai.
My advice keep things loose in plans, as it is so easy to get about in Thailand go with your feelings when you arrive, if you go pattaya first there are so many bars offering golf days you will be happy with the cost, try this google search golf bars Pattaya the golf trips start earlyish so not a good friend for overnight visitors.
Have fun tit.
However, as for the golf, I realized that a lot of the courses I wanted to play required a taxi or whatever to get there and they were like $60 or $80 round-trip as well as an hour or so away. Does anyone here have any thoughts about this? Also, most of the courses didn't seem to like the idea of booking a round / tee-time for a "single" player. It seemed like a real hassle actually, but there were courses there that I really would have like to have played. Actually it is not a hassle at all. In Pattaya you may have to join a group, which will make things lot easier. In Bangkok, just take any cab and they will take you to the golf course and you pay by meter. At the end of the round if you tell the receptionist, they will call a cab for you. You may have to wait 15 to 30 minutes depending on the location of the course. The max I pay is about 450 bath to Lam Lukka which is quite far. Some of the cab drivers would not know the locations and you may have to let a few taxis go. All in all it is manageable. I have done this in Chang Mai couple of times but do not have a lot of experience there. In general, as a single player it is never a problem to get on the course unless there is a tournament going on. They will ask you if you do not mind joining a group. Let me know when you are making the trip and if I am in BKK I can certainly help. I am sure there are other members who play golf regularly as well. Have fun.
Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the idea of spending 4 or 5 days in each of the spots I listed above?4 or 5 days in BKK or CM is certainly do-able. There is so much to see and do in BKK that it won't be boring. CM is very pretty, if they're not doing their annual field burning. There are lots of very scenic places to visit, too. A few days there wouldn't be a waste.
For me, the bloom has been off of the Pattaya rose for quite some time. I guess everybody has to see it once, but if you're into beach-why activities, consider Hua Hin. There is still nightlife but there is not quite the hard-core sleaze of PTY. Or Koh Chang might be a good alternative if you prefer something more relaxed.
Hi all.... Been mostly on the "Tijuana" part of this site, but sometimes I keep an eye on this part as well (Thailand). Planned to go last year in October, but the trip fell through with a couple of friends at the last moment. Not fun at all. The plan was to spend 5 days in Pattaya, 4 days in Chiang Mai (Am I spelling that right? And the last 4 days in Bangkok. My friends mostly wanted to do beach stuff (cool with me), but my interest was in three (3) areas: Food, Golf and the Female persuasion of course. However, as for the golf, I realized that a lot of the courses I wanted to play required a taxi or whatever to get there and they were like $60 or $80 round-trip as well as an hour or so away. Does anyone here have any thoughts about this? Also, most of the courses didn't seem to like the idea of booking a round / tee-time for a "single" player. It seemed like a real hassle actually, but there were courses there that I really would have like to have played. The plan is to still travel there this year (perhaps Sept. Or Oct.). Anyways, it sounded like a cool trip, but any thoughts that people here might have about where to go for golf would be appreciated. Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the idea of spending 4 or 5 days in each of the spots I listed above?Caprese7: I know nothing about golf but I stay at the Whitehouse Condotel in Pattaya. The hotel is full of golfers and the owner is also an avid golfer. It would be very easy to meet some players there. I have talked to many at breakfast in the hotel restaurant. You can certainly talk to the owner who will make some introductions for you.
Caprese7: I know nothing about golf but I stay at the Whitehouse Condotel in Pattaya. The hotel is full of golfers and the owner is also an avid golfer. It would be very easy to meet some players there. I have talked to many at breakfast in the hotel restaurant. You can certainly talk to the owner who will make some introductions for you.Caprese -.
There is also a rather large golf society in the area, minimal fee and lots of choices for daily courses. Not sure if this is allowed or considered advertising on this forum.
http://pattayasports.org/sports/golf/
LittleBigMan
01-13-16, 02:17
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Hi all.... Been mostly on the "Tijuana" part of this site, but sometimes I keep an eye on this part as well (Thailand). Planned to go last year in October, but the trip fell through with a couple of friends at the last moment. Not fun at all. The plan was to spend 5 days in Pattaya, 4 days in Chiang Mai (Am I spelling that right? And the last 4 days in Bangkok. My friends mostly wanted to do beach stuff (cool with me), but my interest was in three (3) areas: Food, Golf and the Female persuasion of course. However, as for the golf, I realized that a lot of the courses I wanted to play required a taxi or whatever to get there and they were like $60 or $80 round-trip as well as an hour or so away. Does anyone here have any thoughts about this? Also, most of the courses didn't seem to like the idea of booking a round / tee-time for a "single" player. It seemed like a real hassle actually, but there were courses there that I really would have like to have played. The plan is to still travel there this year (perhaps Sept. Or Oct.). Anyways, it sounded like a cool trip, but any thoughts that people here might have about where to go for golf would be appreciated. Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the idea of spending 4 or 5 days in each of the spots I listed above?.
If you are around the L. K. Area, On Soi Buakhao, just off Soi LengKee, there is a restaurant called Weatherspoons, they have daily Golf tours. Opposite int he L. K. Court yard area where the majority of Go Go, check out the Golf Club Restaurant too for information.
At Ibaski: Thanks for the reply here. The goal is to be in Thailand possibly this Fall or late this Summer, 2016. I appreciate the advice here, but the main concern was that they did not seem overly receptive to "singles" on the course. However, one of the courses did set me up with a playing partner for my first round (Laem Chabang I believe). The price of the taxi to and from also seemed quite expensive considering that is virtually equaled the green fee. The courses look really nice and this is something I firmly believe I would enjoy when in Thailand during the day. The whole thing just seems challenging however. Not really sure how to join a "group" either". I do appreciate your offering assistance however, and.
I might take you up on that. Thanks again!
Actually it is not a hassle at all. In Pattaya you may have to join a group, which will make things lot easier. In Bangkok, just take any cab and they will take you to the golf course and you pay by meter. At the end of the round if you tell the receptionist, they will call a cab for you. You may have to wait 15 to 30 minutes depending on the location of the course. The max I pay is about 450 bath to Lam Lukka which is quite far. Some of the cab drivers would not know the locations and you may have to let a few taxis go. All in all it is manageable. I have done this in Chang Mai couple of times but do not have a lot of experience there. In general, as a single player it is never a problem to get on the course unless there is a tournament going on. They will ask you if you do not mind joining a group. Let me know when you are making the trip and if I am in BKK I can certainly help. I am sure there are other members who play golf regularly as well. Have fun.
Hi all,
Just thought of sharing this incident with you guys, it might help you of you face a similar issue with passport validity.
My friend and I had planned a trip to Thailand for the 6th of February, mid December we had booked our flight tickets including bookings for all the hotels and tours when I realized that my British Passport had only 5 months validity left, so I went on the Thai Embassy site to look for information regarding the rules for passports which are about to expire, on some pages of the site I saw that it said 3 months validity was required and on some other pages of the site it said 6 months. I was confused, worried, and panicking so I called up the Thai Embassy in India and no one was picking up the phone. So I sent them an email and told them about my situation, the Consul I was in contact with via email was rather helpful and she said that I would most likely not face any issues while entering Thailand, I was very skeptical of her reply and told her what I had read on the website, she then told me that if I was worried I could apply for a tourist visa and that she would issue me on my passport. After I asked her if it guaranteed me entry into Thailand, as I didn't want to take a risk as all my bookings were done, she said at the end of the day it is up to the Immigration Officer to see.
I checked the British High Commission website and it said that it would take around 8 weeks for them to do a renewal from India, now I was really worried and didn't know what to do, I thought I'd have to cancel the bookings of me and my friend and loose a lot of money in the process. I thought I should at least download and fill out the form for renewal, so I downloaded and printed it, it had to be fill in by hand, on the site it was also mentioned that if I need to travel urgently and I didn't have my passport with me or it had expired or was stolen I could apply for a Emergency Travel Document (Emergency Passport) at the British High Commission in Mumbai, the travel document would be valid just for this one trip.
So I filled in the renewal papers for the passport and submitted them on the 31st of December 2015. I called the British High Commission in Mumbai and asked them regarding the Travel Document, they said they would be happy to help me and that I would have to book an appointment 2 weeks before my travel date from their website and bring proof of my passport renewal and some other photo IDs and they would issue me one on paying £90 for the application. I downloaded the form and booked the appointment for the 21st of January 2016.
10 days after I had submitted the passport application, I got a message on my phone from DHL saying that my passport was on its way to me. I was astonished at the turnaround time for the renewal process. 2 days after the DHL message I got an email from the office from where I had submitted my application to come and collect my passport. Canceled my appointment with the Embassy and relaxed.
I thought I would have to do a lot of running around for the Travel Document but in the end everything turned out to be fine.
Hi all,
Just thought of sharing this incident with you guys, it might help you of you face a similar issue with passport validity.
Good reminder to people. Typically, the airline will not even let you board if your passport is within six months or so of expiring. Glad everything ended up working out.
LifeIsABeach
01-16-16, 02:53
Good reminder to people. Typically, the airline will not even let you board if your passport is within six months or so of expiring. Glad everything ended up working out.Agreed. It's well know most countries ask for minimum 6 months remaining on the passport. Also, some countries also require to see a Return ticket if you are going on vacation and are not a permanent resident of the country you are going to. The airline will request that when you check in.
MusicalToM
01-16-16, 13:58
Since this document related discussion is going on, I'd like to mention another point as well.
In some countries there is a rule that, "Your passport must be active & valid from last 6 months minimum meaning if you have got a new passport & before 6 months from the date of getting passport if you are trying to travel, then there is a chance that you won't be allowed". These things are clearly mentioned in Thai Consulate website. But people likely not read it clearly. This kind of minor things might create a prob in later time. Be alert.
Since this document related discussion is going on, I'd like to mention another point as well.
In some countries there is a rule that, "Your passport must be active & valid from last 6 months minimum meaning if you have got a new passport & before 6 months from the date of getting passport if you are trying to travel, then there is a chance that you won't be allowed". These things are clearly mentioned in Thai Consulate website. But people likely not read it clearly. This kind of minor things might create a prob in later time. Be alert.I once went to Thailand with a 10 days new passport in VoA scheme. No problem!
P.
Seriously, I really would like to know which countries will not accept a newly issued passport?
A freshly issued passport without stamps might draw a bit more attention and scrutiny though. If the immigration officer sees a lot of entry and exit stamps, such as in a frequent monger's passport (maybe even his own stamp) the risk of a fake passport is lower as well as the probability that you will overstay / work illegally etc.
Seriously, I really would like to know which countries will not accept a newly issued passport?
A freshly issued passport without stamps might draw a bit more attention and scrutiny though. If the immigration officer sees a lot of entry and exit stamps, such as in a frequent monger's passport (maybe even his own stamp) the risk of a fake passport is lower as well as the probability that you will overstay / work illegally etc.Who cares, unless Thailand is putting special rules for visits from your country? Hypothetically, it's possible in there was a habitual problem of people coming to Thailand, for secret work purposes, from particular origins, and Thailand could try to discourage it by requiring a passport to be at least 6 months of age.
However most western countries are not going to be restricted from tourism in this way. It doesn't make any sense to prevent tourists when tourism is an important part of the economy. I have not had a problem with a new passport.
I am trying to work out what sort of a VISA would suit me, as I do enter Thailand many times per year, totalling up to 4 months per year, but each stay is normally 4 weeks or less. Currently I don't apply for any VISAs and get 4 weeks automatically each visit.
I am trying to work out what sort of a VISA would suit me, as I do enter Thailand many times per year, totalling up to 4 months per year, but each stay is normally 4 weeks or less. Currently I don't apply for any VISAs and get 4 weeks automatically each visit.
I am in the same situation, travelling quite frequently to Thailand under the visa waiver system (30 days visa excempt stay).
As I understand it the current government abolished some rules about maximum number of stays, and that you can now avail of this excemption indefinate number of stays, at least if you are entering / exiting via airports? Are there any situations where they will be reluctant to grant visa waiver? I have an upcoming trip where I will be in Thailand a while and then do a brief beeline to PH, then re-entering Thailand again one or two weeks later. As I understand it, I should then be granted another 30 days. That would look a bit like a visa run, although it is not (I will exit TH after another 1-2 weeks). Are there any travel patterns one should avoid, when using the the visa waiver extensively?
I am in the same situation, travelling quite frequently to Thailand under the visa waiver system (30 days visa excempt stay).
As I understand it the current government abolished some rules about maximum number of stays, and that you can now avail of this excemption indefinate number of stays, at least if you are entering / exiting via airports? Are there any situations where they will be reluctant to grant visa waiver? I have an upcoming trip where I will be in Thailand a while and then do a brief beeline to PH, then re-entering Thailand again one or two weeks later. As I understand it, I should then be granted another 30 days. That would look a bit like a visa run, although it is not (I will exit TH after another 1-2 weeks). Are there any travel patterns one should avoid, when using the the visa waiver extensively?No it won't look like a Visa run if you stay away more than one night and don't clearly do it just to avoid 30 day restrictions on a regular basis. Would be simpler to fly to Penang or similar for a VISA Run.
It is possible to go to Thai Immigration and apply for a 7 day extension to the automatic 30 days. I may try that sometime soon. That is a better course of action than and out-in "Visa run" if only needing a short extension. I have paid overstay fines on two occasions.
Banana Boi
01-17-16, 03:13
I've been doing some research into this.
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/new-visa-rules.php
New rule is there is no longer a 90 day maximum stay every 6 months. However, you still have to do a Visa run (which is a PITA from Pattaya) every 30 days by air and 15 days by land.
When I turn 50 in a few years I can apply for the Retirement Visa. 1 year stay and only have to check into immigration office once every 90 days.
I have paid overstay fines on two occasions. That is a better course of action than and out-in "Visa run".
Would this ever become an issue with Thai immigration if you do it too many times?
I've been doing some research into this.
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/new-visa-rules.php
New rule is there is no longer a 90 day maximum stay every 6 months. However, you still have to do a Visa run (which is a PITA from Pattaya) every 30 days by air and 15 days by land.
When I turn 50 in a few years I can apply for the Retirement Visa. 1 year stay and only have to check into immigration office once every 90 days.
Would this ever become an issue with Thai immigration if you do it too many times?I updated my post to be clearer. I don't know if becomes a problem by overstaying too many times. I have only overstayed a few days, like 3 or 4 days. The fine per day is quite expensive. I forget how much, but total fine was several thousand Baht.
What do retired people do in long term? I mean 1 year stay is clearly not enough. As I am well over 50, retirement VISA may suit me though I am still intending to work outside Thailand for plenty more years.
No it won't look like a Visa run if you stay away more than one night and don't clearly do it just to avoid 30 day restrictions on a regular basis. Would be simpler to fly to Penang or similar for a VISA Run.Yes, you are right. Manila will look quite genuine as compared to Penang and the likes. I guess it will hardly raise an eybrow. As a currently quite heavy user of free 30-days waivers I do not want to create unnecessarily strange travel patterns, but this looks like a non-issue. I have never had any questions from Thai immigration (unlike some PH stations, especially the notorious one).
Banana Boi
01-17-16, 04:50
What do retired people do in long term? I mean 1 year stay is clearly not enough. As I am well over 50, retirement VISA may suit me though I am still intending to work outside Thailand for plenty more years.I'm curious about this as well. Wondering what is the easiest options to stay in Thailand for years, other than marriage of course.
I'm curious about this as well. Wondering what is the easiest options to stay in Thailand for years, other than marriage of course.I have been living in Thailand for several years on a 1 year retirement visa that I renew a day or two before it expires. As a USA Citizen, for me it is a brief visit to the USA Embassy to pick up an income verification letter (easy, make an appointment online ahead of time). Then I take that and my passport to Thai Immigration for a few hours of waiting and stamping to get the visa renewed. It could all be done in one day if you do the USA Embassy part early in the day and get to Thai Immigration just after Noon (closed from Noon to 1 PM for lunch). Need a couple of new photos each time but that can be done on the Thai Immigration premises, too, or in advance if you want. Cost to renew is, as I recall, 1900 baht. Photo on the premises is another 100 baht or so. I add the multiple entry (without needing a re-entry pass) option, which is the most expensive thing in the process at about 3,000 baht extra. Haven't used it much, but like to have it in the passport in case of an emergency or impulse to just get up and go on a trip out of the country with as few stops in between as possible.
I updated my post to be clearer. I don't know if becomes a problem by overstaying too many times. I have only overstayed a few days, like 3 or 4 days. The fine per day is quite expensive. I forget how much, but total fine was several thousand Baht.
I am always curious about what data appears on the immigration website when they swipe in your passport number. I suspect they probably note that you have overstayed the visa, so if you become an habitual over-stayer, it might eventually rebound on you.
I have never gone beyond my designated stay but on my last trip to Laos, I needed to extend my business visa from 30 to 60 days and I was delayed by a work issue and couldn't leave until Day 61. I never thought this would be an issue but when I reached passport control I was asked to go (and escorted) to a side office where a very courteous guy explained I had overstayed 1 day and needed to pay a fine (the amount of which I can't remember but it was enough to clean out my excess kip), and an official receipt with stamp etc was issued. There was a laminated scale of charges on the wall which escalated as the days increased.
I then was taken back to the original kiosk and away I went.
I can imagine that if there is a queue of over-stayers then you might be delayed much longer than you anticipated. It's not worth getting any sort of "flag" on your record.
Re comments about "new passports". I always carry my old expired passport with me for the first few trips in case there is ever an issue, but there never has been.
MusicalToM
01-17-16, 12:15
Seriously, I really would like to know which countries will not accept a newly issued passport?
A freshly issued passport without stamps might draw a bit more attention and scrutiny though. If the immigration officer sees a lot of entry and exit stamps, such as in a frequent monger's passport (maybe even his own stamp) the risk of a fake passport is lower as well as the probability that you will overstay / work illegally etc.I won't take any name but I know there are some south Asia & golf countries for whom the rule is your fresh passport must be valid for at least 6 months (for some it's 3 months). I saw this while doing some research some time back & I'm pretty sure it's still there. But again while booking a ticket if you call up the Airline people & explain them about it, they clearly say "Don't worry, nobody is going to notice this minor information". To be honest I've not heard anybody barred to enter Thailand due to this reason recently. But this rule is there, so you don't know when bad luck will hit you.
I am trying to work out what sort of a VISA would suit me, as I do enter Thailand many times per year, totalling up to 4 months per year, but each stay is normally 4 weeks or less. Currently I don't apply for any VISAs and get 4 weeks automatically each visit.
I am in the same situation, travelling quite frequently to Thailand under the visa waiver system (30 days visa excempt stay).
As I understand it the current government abolished some rules about maximum number of stays, and that you can now avail of this excemption indefinate number of stays, at least if you are entering / exiting via airports? Are there any situations where they will be reluctant to grant visa waiver? I have an upcoming trip where I will be in Thailand a while and then do a brief beeline to PH, then re-entering Thailand again one or two weeks later. As I understand it, I should then be granted another 30 days. That would look a bit like a visa run, although it is not (I will exit TH after another 1-2 weeks). Are there any travel patterns one should avoid, when using the the visa waiver extensively?I don't know from which country at Pute Nut belongs, but irrespective of country we all can opt for Multi-Entry visa instead of single entry (we normally get single entry visa in visa-on-arrival). Multi-Entry includes entry either from your country or from another country by Air / Land and it costs double the amount of single entry (sometimes a bit more costly). Perhaps this what would suit you & you'll definitely save some time when you get a fresh visa every time you enter. And if I recollect perfectly then the validity of multi-entry tourist visa is more compared to single-entry.
Wanderer9577
01-17-16, 21:31
Is there anything special I need to know about bring my medication along on my trip to Thailand? It is a non-narcotic type of medicine used by patients with thyroid issues or who have had their thyroid removed.
Thanks.
Is there anything special I need to know about bring my medication along on my trip to Thailand? It is a non-narcotic type of medicine used by patients with thyroid issues or who have had their thyroid removed.
Thanks.None, other than play it safe and have the medicine in its original prescription bottle. I bring meds over all the time and have yet to be stopped/questioned/frisked/cavity searched. I can not say the same thing for Sydney or Singapore.
Is there anything special I need to know about bring my medication along on my trip to Thailand? It is a non-narcotic type of medicine used by patients with thyroid issues or who have had their thyroid removed.
Thanks.If you travel to any country, whether it is Thailand or somewhere else, it is always a good idea to bring along your prescriptions. You never know if or when you need them.
Pipe Layer99
01-18-16, 15:12
I have been living in Thailand for several years on a 1 year retirement visa that I renew a day or two before it expires. As a USA Citizen, for me it is a brief visit to the USA Embassy to pick up an income verification letter (easy, make an appointment online ahead of time). Then I take that and my passport to Thai Immigration for a few hours of waiting and stamping to get the visa renewed. It could all be done in one day if you do the USA Embassy part early in the day and get to Thai Immigration just after Noon (closed from Noon to 1 PM for lunch). Need a couple of new photos each time but that can be done on the Thai Immigration premises, too, or in advance if you want. Cost to renew is, as I recall, 1900 baht. Photo on the premises is another 100 baht or so. I add the multiple entry (without needing a re-entry pass) option, which is the most expensive thing in the process at about 3,000 baht extra. Haven't used it much, but like to have it in the passport in case of an emergency or impulse to just get up and go on a trip out of the country with as few stops in between as possible.Your retirement visa doesn't remain good for the whole year if you leave? I mean, once you get the visa, you can't simply leave and re-enter during that year (without some sort of re-entry)?
How much is a re-entry stamp?
I'm still some time away from being eligible for a retirement visa (although I retired years ago). Have to wait until 50. Meet all other requirements except age. LOL.
Your retirement visa doesn't remain good for the whole year if you leave? I mean, once you get the visa, you can't simply leave and re-enter during that year (without some sort of re-entry)?
How much is a re-entry stamp?
I'm still some time away from being eligible for a retirement visa (although I retired years ago). Have to wait until 50. Meet all other requirements except age. LOL.My retirement visa is good for an entire year whether I leave or not. I am not sure about the cost, if any, of a re-entry pass because I have always opted for the multiple entry stamp when I renewed. As I understand it, if you don't have a multiple entry stamp, you are required to get a re-entry pass whenever you leave the country during the term of your visa and those are available at Immigration or at the airport. What has spooked me about relying on that even though it would likely be cheaper to go that way rather than buying the multiple entry stamp (as I said, about 3,000 baht for the year) is that I have heard there are times when one can show up at the airport for their flight out of Thailand and re-entry passes are not available, so a side trip to Immigration to get one prior to going to the airport is more certain. I didn't want to hassle with that or even take the chance if and when I travel out of Thailand so that is why I get the multiple entry stamp every year when I renew my retirement visa.
Wanderer9577
01-19-16, 00:10
None, other than play it safe and have the medicine in its original prescription bottle. I bring meds over all the time and have yet to be stopped/questioned/frisked/cavity searched. I can not say the same thing for Sydney or Singapore.Thanks! The closer my trip gets the more nervous I get that I am forgetting or overlooking something I shouldn't.
At Ibaski: Thanks for the reply here. Not really sure how to join a "group" either". I do appreciate your offering assistance however, and.
I might take you up on that. Thanks again!No problem. PM Sent.
My retirement visa is good for an entire year whether I leave or not. <SNIP>. . I didn't want to hassle with that or even take the chance if and when I travel out of Thailand so that is why I get the multiple entry stamp every year when I renew my retirement visa.It's a no-brainer. Much more sensible to get a multiple-entry visa for almost any country that you visit if that option is available, especially if you plan to stay for an extended period. You can leave any time and return without hassles as the mood takes you.
Wolvenvacht
01-19-16, 08:11
Thanks! The closer my trip gets the more nervous I get that I am forgetting or overlooking something I shouldn't.If yu forget something there a good chances you can buy it in Thailand cheaper than at home.
Thanks! The closer my trip gets the more nervous I get that I am forgetting or overlooking something I shouldn't.A small detail that has caused some problems for friends of mine visiting from the USA; make sure all the currency you intend to exchange in Thailand is as pristine as possible. If you bring a $20, $50 or $100 bill with the intention of exchanging it here but it has a corner missing no deeper than the border of the bill, don't bring it. Return it to your bank and get another one fully intact without a tear or a clipped corner. As it is in many countries, Thai currency exchange offices will not accept foreign bills that are damaged in ways that are accepted and dispensed by banks and retailers in the USA all the time.
It's a no-brainer. Much more sensible to get a multiple-entry visa for almost any country that you visit if that option is available, especially if you plan to stay for an extended period. You can leave any time and return without hassles as the mood takes you.Maybe not quite a no brainer. When applying for multi-entry you can be expected to have documentation of your flight dates on itinerary. Could be a problem if 2nd entry flights not yet booked. Sometimes we look for cheap flights where date of first leg cannot be changed. Some multi-entry Visas for Thailand are good for two entries only.
Maybe not quite a no brainer. When applying for multi-entry you can be expected to have documentation of your flight dates on itinerary. Could be a problem if 2nd entry flights not yet booked. Sometimes we look for cheap flights where date of first leg cannot be changed. Some multi-entry Visas for Thailand are good for two entries only.In purchasing a muliple entry stamp on my 1 year Thai retirement visa renewal periods several times now I have not yet been asked to show documentation of a pending flight. Never heard of it being a requirement to purchase one. Not on a 1 year retirement visa, that is. I don't have any personal experience with purchasing one on another type of visa like a work visa though.
Maybe not quite a no brainer. When applying for multi-entry you can be expected to have documentation of your flight dates on itinerary. Could be a problem if 2nd entry flights not yet booked. Sometimes we look for cheap flights where date of first leg cannot be changed. Some multi-entry Visas for Thailand are good for two entries only.I should have said "It's a no-brainer" FOR ME as my multi-entry is needed for my work assignments that are broken up into several segments. I have never been asked for details of when I will return. I always obtain a multi-entry visa (good for 12 months) for my wife to travel to Australia as often as she likes. I don't even need to show details of the first flight we will take in order to get the visa; I just get it and we use it if and when we need to do so.
The Retirement Visas that I have researched in Thailand, Philippines and Malaysia all give excellent incentives for retirees to get one. Hassles over multiple-entry is not part of any of them. There may be examples that Syzygies mentioned about which I don't know, so I guess one needs to research each case carefully.
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