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Member #4698
12-09-17, 17:43
I consider those type of nights reconnaissance missions so I can know which girls to choose on the nights when I do want to shag (which are most nights).
I stage reconnaissance nights myself, usually after I have just visited a soapy and I am not looking for another session quite so soon thereafter. But, if I spot a girl, a new girl, to my liking, I will ask her over for a drink and a little get to know you time. By the 2nd drink the girl will invariably ask me if I want to barfine her and if I still want her I will say something like yes, I want to barfine you, but I cannot tonight, because yada yada yada, how about tomorrow night? (or another night convenient to me). This sets up a very favorable situation for the next time I visit that Go Go and ask the same girl over.
Hi guys,
I'm a newbie, going to Thailand just second time.
Which places in BKK and Pattaya do you recommend to pick up good looking girls with good service? My budget is 5 000 BHT for a day.
I know main areas, BKK (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy) , Pattaya (Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro) , but I'm looking for specific places (names of the good places that you recommend).
Any suggestions for:
1. A go go.
2. Soapy massage.
3. Bars.
Thanks.
Hi guys,
I'm a newbie, going to Thailand just second time.
Which places in BKK and Pattaya do you recommend to pick up good looking girls with good service? My budget is 5 000 BHT for a day.
I know main areas, BKK (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy) , Pattaya (Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro) , but I'm looking for specific places (names of the good places that you recommend).
Any suggestions for:
1. A go go.
2. Soapy massage.
3. Bars.
Thanks.For 5000 thb a day stay away from gogos for the most part. I am a bit of a cheap charlie and I once spent 1000 thb in a gogo in about 10 minutes. Soi 6 in pattaya has some pretty girls and is inexpensive. I liked naklua Road past the dolphin roundabout. Do you want stunners or just good women who will be fun?
Names of places on soi 6 seems silly to me. Just find a girl that you like the look of then move on if not happy. I think most bars there are interchangeable.
I think the best way to do pattaya is to play it by ear and figure it out yourself.
I didn't mean this to be a negative post, have fun?128522;.
HornyBabaji
12-11-17, 10:58
Guys, I am an experienced monger from India and have mongered all over India and in Europe. I have been to Thailand before with friends and have tried out soapie at Kristine's and have had some good fun at the regular massage parlors in Bangkok and Phuket. I am planning my solo trip now. Since I will be coming alone I would like to have some good overnight or multiple days GF experience with girls. I have been checking smooci as it is gaining popularity. I wanted to know that what is the general perception about Indian guys in Thailand. I know that a lot of creepy middle aged guys come to Thailand for cheap thrills but is there any way to change this perception? Or are there any reliable places where they do not say NO just because I am an Indian?Well there are lot of options for you, I had been to soapy like Nataree, Poisedon and Amsterdam and regularly visit clubs like levels insanity and spasso at grand Hyatt Erawan. Never had any trouble in these places and always had a good experience. If you are mid age than I would recommend spasso at grand Hyatt erawan for you and better to visit after 11 in night. Even I am from Bangalore and according to my experience girls from Bangkok like well behaved urban Indian guys.
Usually problem is there with rural or uneducated guys usually who travel like sheep in a big groups in fact these kind of peoples are not allowed in clubs of our city also, and basically Thailand would be there first international trip.
Names of places on soi 6 seems silly to me. Just find a girl that you like the look of then move on if not happy. I think most bars there are interchangeable.Yes the strategy for Soi 6 is to walk down Soi till you find a girl you like and go with her and just her.
HornyBabaji
12-11-17, 11:52
I will keep it short here but when I have time, I will explain in detail. I am posed as hell with the attitude of Indians.
Being an Indian myself, I found about 90% of us fit perfectly in the following 4 categories. Rude, Loud, Dirty and Cheap and most of these guys couldn't speak English (if you know a little bit about India then you know pretty much everyone educated speaks English very well).
Now tell me why would anyone want to be near them, much less fuck them.
The LOS will do a favor for everyone if they stop issuing visa on arrival for Indians before the hordes turn this beautiful country in to one filthy place just like the towns and cities we have in India.
Don't get me wrong, I saw and met several well educated, well travelled and affluent Indians and they all share the exact same opinion.
My experience was so bad that I have decided to stop flying budget airlines like air Asia altogether for overseas trips.
More to come!I agree with your view, and would like to add that at 400 usd travel agents arrange a trip of a Thailand for 3 nights including airfare. So after holiday in your town you are foreign returned and in fact one of the few person in your circle who had fucked a foreigner. In fact at this price you can't visit certain places in India for a holiday. This is more than enough to lure these uneducated and rural people to Thailand. Forget airasia, even Thai airways economy class from Bangalore stink like any thing now a days.
HornyBabaji
12-11-17, 12:01
Indian's have a problem being accepted all over the world. I've been in a fortunate position where I have been able to travel extensively for most of my working life, and in my opinion the problem with Indian's has really only been a recent eventuality since the middle class of India have had the resources to travel overseas. In their own backyard the Indian traits that repel most people are contained and only impact on each other. The flaws in Indian culture and behavior are really exposed when they are overseas.
China had a similar problem but did something about it. Living in Beijing in 2003-04 I came across Chinese Government initiatives where they actively took measures to inform their population how they should act and behave when overseas, I'm not too sure these initiatives are still in place these days. It will be up to others to judge how effective these initiatives have been, but I would always prefer to mix with Chinese when overseas than Indians.1 avoid visiting gogo or club in big group.
2 use good perfume.
3 avoid shorts, cheap round t-shirt and pyjamas.
4 don't bargain or haggle much.
5 don't act over smart.
6 please don't try to spend whole night in club or gogo with 1 drink in hand.
7 remember you can flirt with girl but be gentlemen and avoid touching her without her consent.
8 paying up girl doesn't mean she is your property, treat her with dignity.
Just because of these problem at some places we are getting bad name.
IN short if you are well dressed urban guy, who can spend required amount of money, they will pamper you.
Well government can't issue these sort of advisory.
I spent about 5 months in thailand. I left a week ago and am now in Cambodia. I want to go back to Thailand for about 6 weeks. Do I just travel back there and in a month get a visa extension from an immigration office? When I was there before I went to immigration office for 1 month extension, but went to Malaysia to the thai embassy for 3 month extension. I didn't understand all what was going on then, I just did what I was told. Do i need to go to a thai embassy here in cambodia before going back to thailand?
I hope my question is clear. Thank you for any advice or help.
I spent about 5 months in thailand. I left a week ago and am now in Cambodia. I want to go back to Thailand for about 6 weeks. Do I just travel back there and in a month get a visa extension from an immigration office? When I was there before I went to immigration office for 1 month extension, but went to Malaysia to the thai embassy for 3 month extension. I didn't understand all what was going on then, I just did what I was told. Do i need to go to a thai embassy here in cambodia before going back to thailand?
I hope my question is clear. Thank you for any advice or help.The Thai government have been cracking down on people coming in on tourist visas and staying for a long time. Probably because a lot of people work there on tourist visas. The new rules are that you can only get 4 free visas a year. I don't know how this works with extensions. You may have no problem, but on the other hand they may think you are working and refuse to give you an extension. I'd have a back up plan if I were you. I personally have been to Bangkok about 6 or 7 times this year but always for short trips, so they haven't worried about my staying. I haven't stayed for more than 4 days on any trip, once I was only there for 10 hours.
The immigration staff have a lot of flexibility, I believe, but staying for 5 months, leaving for a week and returning may make them think you are working there. You can get multiple entry tourist visas, this would make things easier for you.
The new rules are that you can only get 4 free visas a year. Seriously? That's ridiculous. When I am staying in Asia (I don't stay full time in Thailand), I fly into Bangkok on a "free visa" and spend a few days every couple of weeks. I haven't been to Thailand in probably 6 months, but I find it very hard to believe that they are going to block tourists like myself or like the Japanese golf circuit from coming to Bangkok on weekends.
The new rules are that you can only get 4 free visas a year.I've heard 6. Do you have any links to back this up? I'm on my 4th one for a year with 2 extensions.
I spent about 5 months in thailand. I left a week ago and am now in Cambodia. I want to go back to Thailand for about 6 weeks. Do I just travel back there and in a month get a visa extension from an immigration office? When I was there before I went to immigration office for 1 month extension, but went to Malaysia to the thai embassy for 3 month extension. I didn't understand all what was going on then, I just did what I was told. Do i need to go to a thai embassy here in cambodia before going back to thailand?
I hope my question is clear. Thank you for any advice or help.That's what been doing on my 4th stamp with 2 extensions went to the Philippines for two weeks in between (not a bad plan by the way). Don't see why that'd be a problem my understanding is they will warn you to get a visa for the next trip if you're getting to many.
Seriously? That's ridiculous. When I am staying in Asia (I don't stay full time in Thailand), I fly into Bangkok on a "free visa" and spend a few days every couple of weeks. I haven't been to Thailand in probably 6 months, but I find it very hard to believe that they are going to block tourists like myself or like the Japanese golf circuit from coming to Bangkok on weekends.I read that the limit is only applied to "back to back" visa runs.
1 avoid visiting gogo or club in big group.
2 use good perfume.
3 avoid shorts, cheap round t-shirt and pyjamas.
4 don't bargain or haggle much.
5 don't act over smart.
6 please don't try to spend whole night in club or gogo with 1 drink in hand.
7 remember you can flirt with girl but be gentlemen and avoid touching her without her consent.
8 paying up girl doesn't mean she is your property, treat her with dignity.
Just because of these problem at some places we are getting bad name.
IN short if you are well dressed urban guy, who can spend required amount of money, they will pamper you.
Well government can't issue these sort of advisory.Don't wear any perfume of cologne. Just shower and put on some deodorant. Most Thai gals really don't like fragrances on men. Other than that you are spot on.
Don't wear any perfume of cologne. Just shower and put on some deodorant. Most Thai gals really don't like fragrances on men. Other than that you are spot on.Since when is a cheap thing like a deodorant better than a designer brand product like a perfume? Or do you mean an antiperspirant? I can see the point of the latter.
Don't wear any perfume of cologne. Just shower and put on some deodorant. Most Thai gals really don't like fragrances on men. Other than that you are spot on.Showering is a must, of course. With soap liberally applied to the armpits, feet and nether regions, not just a water rinse. But showering does no good if the person insists on wearing the same shirt he wore and perspired in at a previous time without first laundering it. So, guys, shower with soap and water every day and wear those shirts only ONCE before laundering. Re-wearing shorts or trousers a second time is not as much a no-no but I wouldn't recommend doing that very often either.
Showering is a must, of course. With soap liberally applied to the armpits, feet and nether regions, not just a water rinse. But showering does no good if the person insists on wearing the same shirt he wore and perspired in at a previous time without first laundering it. So, guys, shower with soap and water every day and wear those shirts only ONCE before laundering. Re-wearing shorts or trousers a second time is not as much a no-no but I wouldn't recommend doing that very often either.Ugh I'm brown and the fact we have to have this kind of conversation on how to be a normal clean human being is ridiculous. Agreed with all the other folks in this thread on how 90% of brown people act. I avoid hard core even in the US since there's a heavy chance they are socially awkward, have bad hygiene, are clingy because they see a fellow brown person, or are just unnecessarily arrogant / cheap.
Good to know about the tips that brown people's rep is known in Thailand and I should overindex on avoiding fulfilling any of the stereotypes.
I finally locked in my tickets. I'll be going to Thailand flying into Bangkok at the beginning of February on the 8th and staying there for a week til the 15th when I fly to India for a wedding before flying back to San Francisco via Hong Kong with a nice two day stopover.
I'm trying to figure out how I should split my week in Thailand. How many days are recommended between Bangkok vs Phuket or pattaya. I usually monger a lot and do lots of sessions. In previous trips to Germany I fucked 22 women in 20 sessions in a week with initial days being like 5/6 sessions daily and then tapering off.
While in Thailand I'm looking forward to food, maybe some time on beaches, escorts (I always dig a good guaranteed experience and the rates for 6-24 hour escorts are uber cheap imo), barfining (probably try beer bars and gogos both), maybe hit up some clubs for dancing, soapies since I've never tried it, and just whatever debauchery and depraved experiences I can find. Also love drinking and smoking though I'll try and balance this since it fucks with libido and I know drugs in Thailand are uber sketch.
I've mongered in German FKK, Montreal and London agencies, tijuana recently, heard amazing things about Thailand and I love Asian girls in general. Big fan of kink (Greek, domination giving, role play, threesomes etc), as well as the idea of a huge that extends through a day trip with a Girl if I like her a lot.
I don't know difference between Phuket and Pattaya beyond Pattaya is huge for sex industry so I hear, though Bangkok seems like more commercial as a city and better escort agencies but probably more competition too.
Hotels wise it sounds like just picking a hotel from other thread near nana and cowboy is probably fine for Bangkok? Still researching pattaya.
Showering is a must, of course. With soap liberally applied to the armpits, feet and nether regions, not just a water rinse. But showering does no good if the person insists on wearing the same shirt he wore and perspired in at a previous time without first laundering it. So, guys, shower with soap and water every day and wear those shirts only ONCE before laundering. Re-wearing shorts or trousers a second time is not as much a no-no but I wouldn't recommend doing that very often either.And never, ever eat Indian food.
Seriously? That's ridiculous. When I am staying in Asia (I don't stay full time in Thailand), I fly into Bangkok on a "free visa" and spend a few days every couple of weeks. I haven't been to Thailand in probably 6 months, but I find it very hard to believe that they are going to block tourists like myself or like the Japanese golf circuit from coming to Bangkok on weekends.I believe it's pretty discretionary on the part of the immigration officials. It's basically to stop people effectively living in Bangkok and just doing visa runs to stay legal. As I said, I've been to Thailand around 6 or 7 times this year without a problem, but they have been really short trips. It's clear I'm not lving there. I did get asked once how long I was staying for, it was only 10 hours that trip.
There is also a rule that you cannot have more than 2 visa free entries if you cross a land border. I've been told this by many people but haven't crossed myself. This is widely reported on other forums for expats living in Laos who cross over regularly to shop. I don't have any sources but this was discussed somewhere on this forum earlier in the year and the first person who mentioned it did give the source.
Again, this is just for the government to get rid of people living there without proper paperwork.
Crazy4Thai
12-27-17, 03:53
If you want the real answers go to thaivisa.com. From what I have read there is no limit to visa on arrival by air transport. That does not mean they will not question you. As for getting tourist visas at embassies, same answer. No written law about limits. They do have some detailed requirements like proof of finances, onward travel out of Thailand, proof of hotel booking etc etc etc etc etc etc. These requirements vary from embassy to embassy and still when you arrive you might get some questions. But pretty unusual to get turned away. Also when you stamp in with 30 days you can extend that by 30 days by going to immigration and paying I think 1,900 baht. Take 2 passport pics with you.
Showering is a must, of course. With soap liberally applied to the armpits, feet and nether regions, not just a water rinse. I never use soap when I shower. It's bad for your skin. Sometimes I shower with the girls and it always strikes me they use a lot of soap, even for their pussies which is really bad.
I do use a washcloth however and I always rinse my armpits and groin thoroughly.
If you want the real answers go to thaivisa.com. From what I have read there is no limit to visa on arrival by air transport. That does not mean they will not question you. As for getting tourist visas at embassies, same answer. No written law about limits. I've always understood you cannot stay more than 90 days over a period of 6 months.
"Foreigners who enter the Kingdom under the Tourist Visa Exemption Scheme may re-enter and stay in Thailand for a cumulative duration of stay of not exceeding 90 days within any 6-month period from the date of first entry. "
However this 'within any 6-month period from the date of first entry' has always puzzled me.
This year I have been in Thailand in June, July, August and November for a total of 72 days.
If I go back in January will they restart counting because it's a new year? Will it be considered as a new 'first entry'?
Or will they look back 6 months and include the number of days I stayed there in August and November?
I've always understood you cannot stay more than 90 days over a period of 6 months.
"Foreigners who enter the Kingdom under the Tourist Visa Exemption Scheme may re-enter and stay in Thailand for a cumulative duration of stay of not exceeding 90 days within any 6-month period from the date of first entry. "
However this 'within any 6-month period from the date of first entry' has always puzzled me.
This year I have been in Thailand in June, July, August and November for a total of 72 days.
If I go back in January will they restart counting because it's a new year? Will it be considered as a new 'first entry'?
Or will they look back 6 months and include the number of days I stayed there in August and November?This is out dated from 2014 and was only enforced for a short period of time. I've been here 120 days with a two week break in between no problem. I should get the retirement Visa but it's a real hassle with the income verification process which is sad cause I'd stay longer without this issue. That said pretty sure they don't reset at the new year but use your travel dates.
I never use soap when I shower. It's bad for your skin. Sometimes I shower with the girls and it always strikes me they use a lot of soap, even for their pussies which is really bad.
I do use a washcloth however and I always rinse my armpits and groin thoroughly.Unless using a new one every time, washcloths and bath sponges are really bad. A lot of bacteria can build up on those between showers.
I've always understood you cannot stay more than 90 days over a period of 6 months.Apparently the 90 day rule does not apply. I found the following update from 27 Nov 2017. After 6 visas in one year you may be questioned about your trips and it confirms the 2 land crossing a year.
http://www.thaivisaservice.com/visa-rules
I never use soap when I shower. It's bad for your skin. Sometimes I shower with the girls and it always strikes me they use a lot of soap, even for their pussies which is really bad.
I do use a washcloth however and I always rinse my armpits and groin thoroughly.There is certainly a valid school of thought about the over use of soap in modern times. After all, we survived and evolved over hundreds of thousands of years without soap, shampoo, anti-perspirant and even hot water.
Then again, I was not around back then to find out how enthused about blowing me those cave women would have been. LOL.
But I do agree with you about Thai girls going at their vaginas with soap. Not generally good chemistry. The body already does a very good job of cleansing itself when it comes to that particular input. That survival/evolution thing again. If anything, some women with funky smelling vaginas might actually be creating that problem by introducing too many soapy chemicals into it.
Then again, I was not around back then to find out how enthused about blowing me those cave women would have been. LOL.Actually I think you have been around. I believe we reincarnate as mongers time after time.
Or was it a wet dream?
This is out dated from 2014 and was only enforced for a short period of time.
Apparently the 90 day rule does not apply.Thanks guys! These visa rules seem to change quite a lot.
..... Cut...... Thai girls going at their vaginas with soap. Not generally good chemistry. The body already does a very good job of cleansing itself when it comes to that particular input. That survival/evolution thing again. If anything, some women with funky smelling vaginas might actually be creating that problem by introducing too many soapy chemicals into it.Many of these ladies are quite conscious of cleaning their v with some kind of ph? Balanced formula that they pull out of their purse when headed to the shower. Rarely have I encountered funky smells. More instances of that in north america (not near as hot here) LOL.
There is certainly a valid school of thought about the over use of soap in modern times. After all, we survived and evolved over hundreds of thousands of years without soap, shampoo, anti-perspirant and even hot water.I know a guy who spent a year back in the 60's driving a VW bus through Afghanistan and India doing drugs. He said he didn't shower even once in that year. He says after you reach a certain level of dirty, you don't even notice it anymore.
Grandaddy Perp
12-28-17, 09:40
There is certainly a valid school of thought about the over use of soap in modern times. After all, we survived and evolved over hundreds of thousands of years without soap, shampoo, anti-perspirant and even hot water.Well just 100 years ago, people were pretty happy to see their 50th birthday so. Viagra.
I know a guy who spent a year back in the 60's driving a VW bus through Afghanistan and India doing drugs. He said he didn't shower even once in that year. He says after you reach a certain level of dirty, you don't even notice it anymore.I imagine you don't notice it after a certain period, like eating garlic maybe. Problem is everyone else does notice it.
There is certainly a valid school of thought about the over use of soap in modern times. After all, we survived and evolved over hundreds of thousands of years without soap, shampoo, anti-perspirant and even hot water.
Then again, I was not around back then to find out how enthused about blowing me those cave women would have been. LOL.
But I do agree with you about Thai girls going at their vaginas with soap. Not generally good chemistry. The body already does a very good job of cleansing itself when it comes to that particular input. That survival/evolution thing again. If anything, some women with funky smelling vaginas might actually be creating that problem by introducing too many soapy chemicals into it.I don't know about you, but I like to do DATY and make some girls cum from it (some success rate). That is based on clean pussy. I did not like to do DATY on my ex Farang Wife. Smelly pussy and tasted bad. I am a very mouth oriented person, liking DFK and DATY, and BBBJ, 69, etc. I lick her asshole if she likes it and is clean no odour.
Yes bar Soap is normally an Alkaline product that is bad for pussy and actually not that good in general. Fungal infections like an Alkaline environment and not acidic, which is why bathing with vinegar in the bath is good for pussy health, and girls have special cleansers that are neutral or slightly acidic. Alkaline soap can also be bad for your dick, possibly promoting yeast infections. I use gels for cleaning under arms and rest of body and do not like bar soaps generally. My nose works too well, so at least I know myself when I stink. Thai girls usually have sensitive noses too. Many guys that stink do not know. I guess they are used to it.
I could not stand in line at a currency exchange with a group of Arabs. They seemed oblivious to the foul BO stench. Arab ladies must be accustomed to it, and don't notice?
Today I was chatting to a Thai woman in a Thai grocery shop. Some guy walked in and immediately I could smell the BO stink, before I had even looked in his direction. Turned out to be Farang of some type (not SE Asian). Was extremely unlikely to be a Thai or any SE Asian. They have zero or very few Aprocrine glands under arms to make the stink. Occasionally get in stinky Taxis but that is rarely from BO of the Driver. Usually from previous customers, cigarettes, etc.
Clearly different cultures are used to different amounts of stink. Some cultures hardly notice bad BO that irritates my nose so much. My nose is quite intolerant. I am just not accustomed to it. Spend most time in hot climates with Thais and OS mostly cold climates where bad BO is not so prevalent. I can't even eat much garlic, especially Farang varieties of garlic (Thai garlic seems less smelly) as the taste/smell lingers too long and makes me hate myself. Can't eat raw onions, for same reason.
I don't know about you, but I like to do DATY and make some girls cum from it (some success rate). That is based on clean pussy. Same here. However, I am not a stickler about the girl washing thoroughly right before DATY as long as she is shaved smooth and known to be a generally clean person anyway. In Thailand, such a person will have water rinsed during every trip to the toilet or any time she suspects things are not quite clean as she'd like it to be. It isn't as though no water has washed across her pussy since yesterday's shower. I am willing and sometimes even prefer to DATY for such a girl just arriving in the room from the outside, feeling it will at most be just her natural, generally clean body and normal tastes and smells I encounter. And it is my opinion that DATY feels better to a woman who has gotten a bit moist for you on that first hug and kiss through the door. Why change the subject and start from zero again by washing all that goodness away before diving in?
Weird thing is, a few Thai girls I have known who kept themselves shaved but rarely left evidence of serious showering have had some of the best tasting pussies I've ever had, or the most neutral tasting pussies I've ever had. Seriously. A couple of my regulars in the past and currently hardly leave more than a damp towel in the bathroom after whatever it is they call showering, there is very little water on the floor, no evidence of much if any liquid bath soap being used, etc. Yet they have had the most neutral smelling bodies and most inviting smelling and tasting pussies of all. With some girls it seems they just can't screw up the naturally great chemistry going on inside them no matter what the weather or bathing conditions.
Same here. However, I am not a stickler about the girl washing thoroughly right before DATY as long as she is shaved smooth and known to be a generally clean person anyway. In Thailand, such a person will have water rinsed during every trip to the toilet or any time she suspects things are not quite clean as she'd like to be. It isn't as though no water has washed across her pussy since yesterday's shower. I am willing and sometimes even prefer to DATY for such a girl just in from the outside, feeling it will at most be just her natural, generally clean body and normal tastes and smells I encounter. And it is my opinion that DATY feels better to a woman who has gotten a bit moist for you on that first hug and kiss through the door. Why change the subject and start from zero again by washing all that goodness away before diving in?
Weird thing is, a few Thai girls I have known who kept themselves shaved but rarely left evidence of serious showering have had some of the best tasting pussies I've ever had, or the most neutral tasting pussies I've ever had. Seriously. A couple of my regulars in the past and currently hardly leave more than a damp towel in the bathroom after whatever it is they call showering, there is very little water on the floor, no evidence of much if any liquid bath soap being used. Yet they have had the most neutral smelling bodies and most inviting smelling and tasting pussies of all. With some girls it seems they just can't screw up the naturally great chemistry going on in them no matter what the weather or bathing conditions.Totally agree with you. Thai gals tend to have very sweet natural tasting snatches. Their bodies also for the most part have a very pleasing natural aroma. I don't find that with other Asians so to speak. I also prefer au natural and would rather get right to it as opposed to showering. I am always fastidious and make sure I am freshly showered before heading for a sesh. Back in my Thermae days I would make sure she did not shower before we went at it. They'd say, "Shower shower" and I'd say, "After!
My nose works too well, so at least I know myself when I stink. Thai girls usually have sensitive noses too. Many guys that stink do not know. I guess they are used to it.
I could not stand in line at a currency exchange with a group of Arabs. They seemed oblivious to the foul BO stench. Arab ladies must be accustomed to it, and don't notice?
Today I was chatting to a Thai woman in a Thai grocery shop. Some guy walked in and immediately I could smell the BO stink, before I had even looked in his direction. Turned out to be Farang of some type (not SE Asian). Was extremely unlikely to be a Thai or any SE Asian. They have zero or very few Aprocrine glands under arms to make the stink. Occasionally get in stinky Taxis but that is rarely from BO of the Driver. Usually from previous customers, cigarettes, etc.
Clearly different cultures are used to different amounts of stink. Some cultures hardly notice bad BO that irritates my nose so much. My nose is quite intolerant. I am just not accustomed to it. Spend most time in hot climates with Thais and OS mostly cold climates where bad BO is not so prevalent. I can't even eat much garlic, especially Farang varieties of garlic (Thai garlic seems less smelly) as the taste/smell lingers too long and makes me hate myself. Can't eat raw onions, for same reason.It is likewise my pet peeve. I don't know how some of the girls put up with it. Most Thai and Indonesian girls do not smell too bad even though some are sweating for a while. Many Western guys and gals smell. The worst are the Indians and Pakistani guys and gals. Black Africans likewise have strong odor. I usually don't have an issue with the few Middle Eastern Arabs I come across.
I suspect it depends on the bacteria you have growing on you. I know that I can smell after sweating for 4 hours. Hence, if it is hot, I make sure I wash regularly. The difference is that I usually have access to a place to wash if I am outside and sweating.
Crocodilexp
12-30-17, 04:03
Was extremely unlikely to be a Thai or any SE Asian. They have zero or very few Aprocrine glands under arms to make the stink.If you go to Vietnam and take local or city buses, there's plenty of body odor around. Similar in Indonesia, though to a lesser degree. Maybe less than there would be if it were full of Indians, but SE Asians are not entirely immune to body odor, it's just that a huge majority of Thais keep really good hygiene and shower often.
If you go to Vietnam and take local or city buses, there's plenty of body odor around. Similar in Indonesia, though to a lesser degree. Maybe less than there would be if it were full of Indians, but SE Asians are not entirely immune to body odor, it's just that a huge majority of Thais keep really good hygiene and shower often.Frequent showering helps Thais avoid bacteria getting into any glands they might have. Thais workers came off the roof into the lift of the Hotel very hot and sweaty. No odour at all. Lift stopped at another floor and two Arabs got in. The stink was severe. We had to wonder how long since the last shower. LOL Or did they put on clothes that were already stinky?
However it is a medically proven fact that Thais and some other SE Asians have very few Aprocrine Glands. These are the glands that excrete oils and for some people a lot of bacteria have been breeding inside the gland. Large hole allowed the bacteria in and out. The bacteria coming out is the cause of the acrid stink. It is a much worse stink than odours caused by diet. Anyone can search the internet and read all about this. A person with the bacteria breeding problem in large amounts, can take a shower, yet within an hour or two more oil and bacteria have come out and they can start to stink again already. So it is not so easy to solve the problem. Thais are fortunate to have few Aprocrine glands and possibly very small ones (under armpits), then good cleaning regimes may have kept the bacteria out or at bay.
Banana Boi
12-30-17, 06:38
Asians in general both men and women have much less body odor than a Farang, Indian, etc. I play a lot of sports and it can be pretty smelly tackling some guys.
If you go to Vietnam and take local or city buses, there's plenty of body odor around. Similar in Indonesia, though to a lesser degree. Maybe less than there would be if it were full of Indians, but SE Asians are not entirely immune to body odor, it's just that a huge majority of Thais keep really good hygiene and shower often.There are some additional factors:
1. Indian sub continent people, Turkish, Arabs, Indonesians, Malaysian, Filipinos etc, tend to wear shirts for Multiple days, before they are washed. Also, they may not use a lot of soap to wash, and usually do not use hot dryer to dry after a wash, mostly without the use of a product like Bounce or Febreeze spray in the dryer.
So, clothes, particularly shirts, smell due to bacteria collection and growth over several days.
2. Same issue with the bed sheets they sleep on, underwear they use etc, if not washed and cleaned with deodorizers in a hot dryer then it collects and the bacteria multiplies.
3. Sometimes spicy food, not just Indian, Malaysian, Indonesian, Singaporean, Szechuan, Korean (kimchi) food, all have some unique odors come out through the sweat glands (but usually if you are also eating kimchi or Indian with them, then due to relativity of smell at work, you might not detect it as much.). But others will, particularly in confined spaces, like an elevator, where there is no air circulation. Korean with Kimchi odors , Turks with meat odors , Szechuan region Chinese, big garlic users like Sicilians etc are just like Indian (Punjabi , or fish curry from Calcutta, for example ) all have odors that are distinctly different and discernible, distinguishable....
So, yeah IMO, many factors at work. Science of smell is actually a degree at Harvard. LOL. I know a guy with an actual PhD in this from Harvard.
I have this Thai girl from Isaan, from a farm, who does not use deodorant. She does not like my Axe deodorant. I enjoy chasing her around pretending to spay my Axe on her. LOL. Many Thai girls are not particularly impressed with perfume bottles as gifts. I track many of them on Facebook. It is incredibly rare to see any of them show a bottle of perfume as a gift for their birthday ! Whereas in the US or Europe this would be very common. Many of my Dominican or other Latin friends on the other hand totally love it when I bring them perfume bottles as gifts. Some wait for me to return every year or 6-9months just for a new 100ML bottle of quality perfume. Some girls in Latin America are even unisex about it and ask me to spray men’s cologne like “Chanel pour homme “. on them ! So, yes, there are many cultural differences on this score...I love to have my women smell good and so I always travel with women’s perfumes...LOL ! Very important for me...
Weird thing is, a few Thai girls I have known who kept themselves shaved but rarely left evidence of serious showering have had some of the best tasting pussies I've ever had, or the most neutral tasting pussies I've ever had. Seriously. A couple of my regulars in the past and currently hardly leave more than a damp towel in the bathroom after whatever it is they call showering, there is very little water on the floor, no evidence of much if any liquid bath soap being used, etc. Yet they have had the most neutral smelling bodies and most inviting smelling and tasting pussies of all. With some girls it seems they just can't screw up the naturally great chemistry going on inside them no matter what the weather or bathing conditions.Did you ever ask these girls if they already showered at home? In my experience quite a lot of girls do that. Not bar girls or streetwalkers but freelancers found on the internet.
There are some additional factors:
1. Turkish, Arabs, Indonesians, Malaysian, Filipinos etc, tend to wear shirts for Multiple days, before they are washed. Also, they may not use a lot of soap to wash, and usually do not use hot dryer to dry after a wash, mostly without the use of a product like Bounce or Febreeze spray in the dryer.
<SNIP> I suggest you haven't spent much time with Asian families at all mate (particularly a filipino family), or you would know that the Philippines is probably the number 1 threat to pollution of the planet's waterways. I reckon the same could be said about Thailand, Laos and Indonesia too.
Filipino washer women (called lavenderas in the local language) use a shitload of soap, detergent, fabric softeners and other stuff to make their clothes clean and white clothes whiter than white.
Soap powders are a HUGE industry in the Philippines. Strong sunlight is a much better anti-bacterial than a dryer too. Not sure where you're coming from with your analysis Haven. Sit and watch a person at work washing clothes by hand and see how much soap they use.
Did you ever ask these girls if they already showered at home? In my experience quite a lot of girls do that. Not bar girls or streetwalkers but freelancers found on the internet.No, I didn't ask. My observations were of their showering behavior after being out with me all day or after a shag and before sleeping, many of the times when someone would ordinarily take a shower. There was evidence that some water had splashed around sparingly. But they might not have even used a regular bath towel to dry off, only a small hand towel, and that wasn't even all that wet because so little water had been used. Every now and then they would wash their hair and then there would be more evidence of the shower nozzle being on for longer than usual for them.
I suggest you haven't spent much time with Asian families at all mate (particularly a filipino family), or you would know that the Philippines is probably the number 1 threat to pollution of the planet's waterways. I reckon the same could be said about Thailand, Laos and Indonesia too.
I have to wonder if Haven's comment was lost in Translation somehow, as seemed to have a lot of negatives indicating what people might NOT do rather than what they actually do. I could be wrong, but wonder why all the "nots" and negatives.
There are some additional factors:
1. Indian sub continent people, Turkish, Arabs, Indonesians, Malaysian, Filipinos etc, tend to wear shirts for Multiple days, before they are washed. Also, they may not use a lot of soap to wash, and usually do not use hot dryer to dry after a wash, mostly without the use of a product like Bounce or Febreeze spray in the dryer.
So, clothes, particularly shirts, smell due to bacteria collection and growth over several days.
2. Same issue with the bed sheets they sleep on, underwear they use etc, if not washed and cleaned with deodorizers in a hot dryer then it collects and the bacteria multiplies.
3. Sometimes spicy food, not just Indian, Malaysian, Indonesian, Singaporean, Szechuan, Korean (kimchi) food, all have some unique odors come out through the sweat glands (but usually if you are also eating kimchi or Indian with them, then due to relativity of smell at work, you might not detect it as much.). But others will, particularly in confined spaces, like an elevator, where there is no air circulation. Korean with Kimchi odors , Turks with meat odors , Szechuan region Chinese, big garlic users like Sicilians etc are just like Indian (Punjabi , or fish curry from Calcutta, for example ) all have odors that are distinctly different and discernible, distinguishable....
So, yeah IMO, many factors at work. Science of smell is actually a degree at Harvard. LOL. I know a guy with an actual PhD in this from Harvard.
I have this Thai girl from Isaan, from a farm, who does not use deodorant. She does not like my Axe deodorant. I enjoy chasing her around pretending to spay my Axe on her. LOL. Many Thai girls are not particularly impressed with perfume bottles as gifts. I track many of them on Facebook. It is incredibly rare to see any of them show a bottle of perfume as a gift for their birthday ! I have not noticed Thai girls wearing a shirt multiple days even if they have no detectable body odour. None of my Thai girls have any body odours at all (apart from smoking odours), that I can detect. One Thai girl I know years ago had bad breath but that was a stomach infection cured by antibiotics.
Yes quite correct that a shower is useless if put back on a shirt with stinky underarms. Some people do that. I prefer to sniff check at very close range under arms of a shirt after a shower and before putting it back on so I am knowing when it should be replaced (for certain). Can't always replace it if in an MP (away from home) , but at least know it should be replaced very soon. Very stinky shirts can be detected from metres away. No close sniffing needed.
As a child I recall meeting whole families from Eastern Europe who all reeked of "Garlic" most likely or some food combination, however those odours are not quite as obnoxious as the bacterial breeding type.
I don't like the smell of very strong cheap colonges used by some, and perhaps Thai girls do not also, however I find most Thai girls are into good quality perfumes of a subtle variety. They often ask me to buy them perfumes that they like, especially Lancme ones (not cheap). One of my main Thai girls suggests she likes guys to wear some nice scent too, so I have done so for her, however this seems unusual. She was the only one to suggest it. However far more important is the shower with careful dick, ass, and underarm clean before sex, and also teeth and tongue cleaning.
I also don't find many Thai girls willing to have sex if they did not very recently shower themselves. They are also reluctant to kiss in the morning before going to clean their mouth. So Thai girls like to be confidently very clean and expect the guys to be likewise.
Strong cologne does not really compensate for, or hide bad BO. Just makes it all the more sickly.
I have not noticed Thai girls wearing a shirt multiple days even if they have no detectable body odour. None of my Thai girls have any body odours at all (apart from smoking odours.The post was about guys. Not about the girls body odor (which I agree is not an issue generally) or using shirts for multiple days without washing.
While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.
Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.
If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.
While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.
Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.
If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.Good to hear these simple tips. Cheers for raising it.
The post was about guys. Not about the girls body odor (which I agree is not an issue generally) or using shirts for multiple days without washing.Sorry to switch to girls. Can only talk about what I have experienced. I have no clue how often Thai men change shirts. Have occasionally met a stinky taxi driver, but not that often.
While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.
This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very naïve to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural.
I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.
While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.
This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very naïve to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural, and they probably don't need to.
I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.
While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.
Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.
If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.Absolutely. I have always been fastidious about grooming, but now in my early 50's am even more so. Keep the nether regions, chest, and back shaved, pits trimmed, exfoliate the body, et al. Very important.
This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very nave to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural, and they probably don't need to.
I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.Dead skin cells will shed on their own over time, of course. And I think more of them shed from older skin than younger skin, which can create its own problems. Have you ever gone into an old person's apartment and been hit with that odd "old person smell"? Very often it is actually all of their dead skin cells sprinkled everywhere; on the floor, in the rugs, in the bed sheets, the furniture, throw pillows, clothing, etc. LOL. Quite an unappetizing thought, right? That is why it is important for us older people to scrub off that stuff and send it down the shower drain on a regular basis before it winds up in so many corners of the room and fabrics that normal weekly housecleaning doesn't do the job.
Happy new year everybody. Why'all need to get out and get laid and create something interesting to talk about. LOL.
Sorry to switch to girls. Can only talk about what I have experienced. I have no clue how often Thai men change shirts. Have occasionally met a stinky taxi driver, but not that often.In the discos, clubs and bars, the absolute worst thing, at least for me, is the smell of friggin cigarette smoke. All over my clothes, and anywhere where you have hair.
This is in addition to guys who don't showier, wash their hair daily, stink from sweat, body odors from certain foods they eat, and shirts not washed after every day of wear.
The first thing I do, after I get back at night in Pattaya (or back home in the US) is shower and put all of clothes in the washer or in a bag to drop off at the laundry (when in Pattaya). And then I use deodorant before I go to bed. LOL. Guys are the worst, compared to girls. Most of them, most of the time have incredibly poor hygiene. Unfortunately, that's who each of us going after when we take any girl who has already been with any guy that day (besides other issues). Part of the cost of having fun in establishments with guys who have limited $, or will not spend $ on deodorants or fresh clothes. It is what it is.
I have been in Thailand 5 months. I left once to Malaysia on a visa run. I kept all my visas up to date. I left Thailand a few days before the last visa expired. I went to Cambodia, with the plan to go to Vientiane Laos after leaving there. I changed my mind about Laos and did not enjoy Cambodia so headed back to Thailand.
Going through the reentry line I was pulled aside by the man who stamps the reentry visa and sent to talk to another guy. He seemed concerned that I had been in Thailand for 5 months and wanted to know when I was leaving. I told him I would leave within the month and pointed out I had followed all the visa rules previously. He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.
He had asked me to show him money that I could afford to stay in thailand. I only had $200 USD and 500 thai baht, but showed him debit cards and told him they had $3000 and $4000 on them. Eventually he stamped my visa giving me another month. I was with him 15 to 30 minutes, or so it seemed.
Some possible things that might have made this easier for me are -1. To have had some kind of exit ticket, maybe the plane ticket or maybe just some cheap bus ticket out of thailand. And- 2. Maybe to have had more money with me or an ATM receipt that showed my balance. Ultimately though I got through with a bit of begging and politeness. The worst thing that seemed possible going through this would have been me having to buy tickets at the internet cafe there, so the worst would not have been a catastrophe.
I post this so others can see what might happen when traveling here. Things worked out okay for me, but it was stressful. Maybe others here can point out how I could have faired better. Anyway this is just my experience for what it's worth.
He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.Be aware that a lot of countries won't let you in without a return ticket. Technically the airlines are not supposed to let you board if you do not have a return ticket or resident visa or the like. This is not rigidly enforced but I wouldn't want to risk doing it too often. You could get stuck if you come back to somewhere like Thailand and are refused entry as the airline would be responsible to return you to the country you just left. If you don't have a visa for that country, assuming you cannot get one on arrival, you might end up spending some time at an airport try to figure out what to do next.
I have been in Thailand 5 months. I left once to Malaysia on a visa run. I kept all my visas up to date. I left Thailand a few days before the last visa expired. I went to Cambodia, with the plan to go to Vientiane Laos after leaving there. I changed my mind about Laos and did not enjoy Cambodia so headed back to Thailand.
Going through the reentry line I was pulled aside by the man who stamps the reentry visa and sent to talk to another guy. He seemed concerned that I had been in Thailand for 5 months and wanted to know when I was leaving. I told him I would leave within the month and pointed out I had followed all the visa rules previously. He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.
He had asked me to show him money that I could afford to stay in thailand. I only had $200 USD and 500 thai baht, but showed him debit cards and told him they had $3000 and $4000 on them. Eventually he stamped my visa giving me another month. I was with him 15 to 30 minutes, or so it seemed..I read up on what you went through when looking up Thailand visa requirements. The site I read claimed you needed a return ticket, and 300 $ cash (10 k baht) to be allowed entry else Thailand wouldn't let you enter. I assumed it was to avoid people trying to enter as a refugee attempt.
I have been in Thailand 5 months. I left once to Malaysia on a visa run. I kept all my visas up to date. I left Thailand a few days before the last visa expired. I went to Cambodia, with the plan to go to Vientiane Laos after leaving there. I changed my mind about Laos and did not enjoy Cambodia so headed back to Thailand.
Going through the reentry line I was pulled aside by the man who stamps the reentry visa and sent to talk to another guy. He seemed concerned that I had been in Thailand for 5 months and wanted to know when I was leaving. I told him I would leave within the month and pointed out I had followed all the visa rules previously. He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.
He had asked me to show him money that I could afford to stay in thailand. I only had $200 USD and 500 thai baht, but showed him debit cards and told him they had $3000 and $4000 on them. Eventually he stamped my visa giving me another month. I was with him 15 to 30 minutes, or so it seemed. .You could just buy a refundable ticket and refund it after you get past immigration.
Hi.
This may sound stupid but I'm wondering if pre-mix Canadian Club with Dry is available readily in Pattaya and Bangkok? It is popular here in Australia and I find it better to drink in the heat instead of beer.
Any and all help is appreciated.
Thanks Rob.
PartyAnimal
01-08-18, 08:19
Unfortunately, there have been too many BS scams pulled by Indians, Arabs and Africans so the girls don't trust them. I feel bad for the guys from those areas who are good guys, but the fact is that there are a lot of bad apples in those particular barrels.I suddenly see a spurge of posts pointing Indians out. Confused on what scams they have done to be singled out? Did not experience any such thing in other SE Asian countries but Thailand seems to be different?
I suddenly see a spurge of posts pointing Indians out. Confused on what scams they have done to be singled out? Did not experience any such thing in other SE Asian countries but Thailand seems to be different?
I tried to get a lady from Craigslist to meet with me and she asked which hotel I was staying. When I told her Ambassador she didn't show up. When I texted her and asked why she didn't show up, she said you are Indian and I know your tricks, I replied that I was not Indian and she didn't reply back.
Don't stay in Hotels that are primarily Indian, Sri Lankan, Bangladesh etc. To bad because I actually like the Ambassador. I get a tower room on a high floor with a city view and the buffet breakfast is one the best, especially if you like Indian food. 55555.
RL.
Unfortunately, there have been too many BS scams pulled by Indians, Arabs and Africans so the girls don't trust them. I feel bad for the guys from those areas who are good guys, but the fact is that there are a lot of bad apples in those particular barrels.PA, I see that you post often in the Indian forum. Maybe you can ask a WG next time you are in Thailand and report back.
RL, I like Indian food too but some of the premises dominated by and catering to Indians do smell of curry in the hallways too! Too much for me. In fact, some of the hotels / service apartments I have stayed at over the decades are owned or sometimes catering to the Indian business travellers. It is an interesting change in demographics.
I am with Smoothy on expanding the list. Have seen many ladies get stung by the group. I guess it helps to be smooth talker. But then again, those girls or girls in general are not the sharpest.
PartyAnimal
01-08-18, 17:49
PA, I see that you post often in the Indian forum. Maybe you can ask a WG next time you are in Thailand and report back.
Well Wimble, if the forum tells me that they are already avoiding Indians, it would be good to know the reason why from the fellow brothers here and approach differently. After all, a WG that suspects you of scam would not provide best service, even if you are different from rest of the crowd. Hence the idea was to listen from some of the members here itself of what kind of scams they are talking about.
Peace!
I post this so others can see what might happen when traveling here. Things worked out okay for me, but it was stressful. Maybe others here can point out how I could have faired better. Anyway this is just my experience for what it's worth.There's always a cheap one way ticket to somewhere just outside of Thailand in the $40 price range for a departure in 30 days. Saigon and Singapore are always dirt cheap. $40 is worth wasting if it gets you out of a jam.
Mr Enternational
01-08-18, 21:07
There's always a cheap one way ticket to somewhere just outside of Thailand in the $40 price range for a departure in 30 days. Saigon and Singapore are always dirt cheap. $40 is worth wasting if it gets you out of a jam.Or you could always buy a refundable ticket!
Well Wimble, if the forum tells me that they are already avoiding Indians, it would be good to know the reason why from the fellow brothers here and approach differently. After all, a WG that suspects you of scam would not provide best service, even if you are different from rest of the crowd. Hence the idea was to listen from some of the members here itself of what kind of scams they are talking about.
Peace!Don't worry too much about it. Just make the payment upfront to the establishment like I had to at gogos as well as Soi6 bars. Pay the barfine as well as the girl's fee or else they simply won't entertain you. I was told point blank that Indies cite a million reasons after the session to pay less. Or haggle at the end of the session even though everything went alright.
One of the girls said many guys take one girl and start negotiating with her to bang multiple guys at a discount.
I guess I can go on and on but sure you get the point.
I never had any issues with Service just because I paid upfront. May be I was just lucky but being friendy and polite and clean goes a long way as well. Understand upfront full payment it is a cardinal sin in mongering but you don't have much choice here with establishments very firm about it when it comes to Indies.
I didn't try any FLs so no clue whether they follow the same rules or not. May be you can tell us after your visit.
Well Wimble, if the forum tells me that they are already avoiding Indians, it would be good to know the reason why from the fellow brothers here and approach differently. A quick look back at a few pages on this forum would reveal to you why Indian's are not liked in BKK and quite a few other places. You don't need people here going over old ground and potentially inflaming things. It won't take you long to find the reasons.
PA my friend, I suspect you will get better information from the Indian brothers. You might find a teacher willing to take a padawan. But share the information with us if you can.
At the places I frequent, bars and spas, there are Indians, blacks and Middle Eastern occasionally I don't stick around to check it out. Some of the ME guys I know have no problems with regular places because they are based in Asia and know how things work better than I. And I mean angles and girls.
As Styker suggested RTFF. And most will admit WGs do turn people down, for whatever reason.
Well Wimble, if the forum tells me that they are already avoiding Indians, it would be good to know the reason why from the fellow brothers here and approach differently. After all, a WG that suspects you of scam would not provide best service, even if you are different from rest of the crowd. Hence the idea was to listen from some of the members here itself of what kind of scams they are talking about.
Peace!
A quick look back at a few pages on this forum would reveal to you why Indian's are not liked in BKK and quite a few other places. You don't need people here going over old ground and potentially inflaming things. It won't take you long to find the reasons.
Don't worry too much about it. Just make the payment upfront to the establishment like I had to at gogos as well as Soi6 bars. Pay the barfine as well as the girl's fee or else they simply won't entertain you. I was told point blank that Indies cite a million reasons after the session to pay less. Or haggle at the end of the session even though everything went alright.
One of the girls said many guys take one girl and start negotiating with her to bang multiple guys at a discount.
I guess I can go on and on but sure you get the point..
PartyAnimal
01-09-18, 08:55
A quick look back at a few pages on this forum would reveal to you why Indian's are not liked in BKK and quite a few other places. You don't need people here going over old ground and potentially inflaming things. It won't take you long to find the reasons.
I was told point blank that Indies cite a million reasons after the session to pay less. Or haggle at the end of the session even though everything went alright.
One of the girls said many guys take one girl and start negotiating with her to bang multiple guys at a discount.
I guess I can go on and on but sure you get the point.
Thank you pals. Get it. I understand this might be a doing of few people who have spoilt the game for rest of the people. Strange enough, I found ladies in Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam to be very friendly. While there were 1 or 2 ads on BP / CG which said no to browns (which I anyways did not get in touch with), remaining 98 did not have any such disclaimer. Of those I reached, while they asked my nationality, however maybe it was the way I conversed or my hotel which gave them comfort. Just had 1 experience in Thailand given my overnight stay which involved just a lovely massage from one of the most beautiful and charming ladies I ever met, which eventually led to a breakfast together next day, I would be keen to explore much more this time around when I have more time to spend.
So all this going around the block is a non issue. Typical.
Thank you pals. Get it. I understand this might be a doing of few people who have spoilt the game for rest of the people. Strange enough, I found ladies in Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam to be very friendly. While there were 1 or 2 ads on BP / CG which said no to browns (which I anyways did not get in touch with), remaining 98 did not have any such disclaimer. Of those I reached, while they asked my nationality, however maybe it was the way I conversed or my hotel which gave them comfort. Just had 1 experience in Thailand given my overnight stay which involved just a lovely massage from one of the most beautiful and charming ladies I ever met, which eventually led to a breakfast together next day, I would be keen to explore much more this time around when I have more time to spend.
PartyAnimal
01-11-18, 11:03
So all this going around the block is a non issue. Typical.Well no. Because of my limited experience in Thailand (just 1 that too over wechat and no experience at Nana / others). Will be arriving there on Sunday evening so was looking on CG / BP to get a girl for the night rather than exploring BKK after a long journey. Found 3 options to my liking and connected with them to see if they are available for Sunday incall.
1 turned out to be an SP who quoted exhorbitant prices (said all his ladies were high end models LOL) and hence declined.
1 girl is yet to respond.
The 3rd one (over Wechat) was smooth asking all details and telling prices until she asked my nationality and then blocked me, in spite of telling her that I would be staying in a 5 star hotel (to let her not think that I would be thrifty).
Well let us see how the other girl reacts.
Mr Enternational
01-11-18, 21:21
Well no. Because of my limited experience in Thailand (just 1 that too over wechat and no experience at Nana / others). Will be arriving there on Sunday evening so was looking on CG / BP to get a girl for the night rather than exploring BKK after a long journey.Man get your lazy ass out and explore the place. You act like you are the one that will be flying the plane. You will be sitting there relaxing during the long journey. So unless you need a break from a break go see what the place has to offer instead of bullshitting around with websites and apps.
Well no. Because of my limited experience in Thailand (just 1 that too over wechat and no experience at Nana / others). Will be arriving there on Sunday evening so was looking on CG / BP to get a girl for the night rather than exploring BKK after a long journey. Found 3 options to my liking and connected with them to see if they are available for Sunday incall.
1 turned out to be an SP who quoted exhorbitant prices (said all his ladies were high end models LOL) and hence declined.
1 girl is yet to respond.
The 3rd one (over Wechat) was smooth asking all details and telling prices until she asked my nationality and then blocked me, in spite of telling her that I would be staying in a 5 star hotel (to let her not think that I would be thrifty).
Well let us see how the other girl reacts.If you're so concerned about your color. And have the money to offer much of BP and 4/5 star massage places why not just go for escort services. They're the same price as pretty much any BP girl (without the chance of scams) and will directly tell you if your color is an issue.
IMHO, read between the lines. Escort services might have backup, security and managers. They won't put up with other scammers. LOL.
If you're so concerned about your color. And have the money to offer much of BP and 4/5 star massage places why not just go for escort services. They're the same price as pretty much any BP girl (without the chance of scams) and will directly tell you if your color is an issue.
Man get your lazy ass out and explore the place. You act like you are the one that will be flying the plane. You will be sitting there relaxing during the long journey. So unless you need a break from a break go see what the place has to offer instead of bullshitting around with websites and apps.Sitting there relaxing during the long journey? Many people (including me) cannot sleep in airplanes and are tired as hell after a long flight. So I understand very well that he's looking for an easy option for his first night.
Guys,
What are the other useful webpages you go to when you want to get info about the P4 P scene (both in general and for Thailand in particular)?
/ Kirsia.
I would recommend ISG. I think you know the link.
Hi guys.
Hopefully a stupid question but I need to ask it. Is the procedure for entering Thailand on an Australian passport as simple as show passport, visa applied and stamped and move on to baggage carousel?
Thanks in Advance.
Rob.
Hi guys.
Hopefully a stupid question but I need to ask it. Is the procedure for entering Thailand on an Australian passport as simple as show passport, visa applied and stamped and move on to baggage carousel?
Thanks in Advance.
Rob.Yes, it's that easy. You will get a 30 day tourist visa automatically. If you want to apply for a Thai visa ahead of time, you can get a longer visa if needed. Or if you want to stay longer than 30 days on a tourist visa, you would have to do a border run and get stamped back into the country with a new 30 day tourist visa. Any other questions about visa's, you should ask in Bangkok Expats (Facebook group), as they are Thai visa semi-pro's, LOL!
Banana Boi
01-20-18, 09:02
For ALL countries, thaivisa.com is a very good source for all queries.
HorneeFalang
01-20-18, 13:54
Hi guys.
Hopefully a stupid question but I need to ask it. Is the procedure for entering Thailand on an Australian passport as simple as show passport, visa applied and stamped and move on to baggage carousel?
Thanks in Advance.
Rob.Yes. As simple as that.
Even better is to have carry on baggage and skip the carousel altogether.
Yes. As simple as that.
Even better is to have carry on baggage and skip the carousel altogether.These days it takes longer to get through immigration than it does for the bags to arrive, unless you're flying business class and can use the express lane. I went through immigration a few months ago and the line was back down to the duty free shops.
Thanks guys.
I will be in Thailand for only 8 days so 30 day visa is fine. I thought about only carry on but having experienced other Asian countries I know the bags will beat me to the carousel and I don't want to be dropping clothes off at the laundry every second day.
Thanks again.
Rob.
Mr Enternational
01-22-18, 00:21
Thanks guys.
I will be in Thailand for only 8 days so 30 day visa is fine. I thought about only carry on but having experienced other Asian countries I know the bags will beat me to the carousel and I don't want to be dropping clothes off at the laundry every second day.
Thanks again.
Rob.You got to pack better. I can get 9 days of clothes in my carry on suitcase. 22 inch.
You got to pack better. I can get 9 days of clothes in my carry on suitcase. 22 inch.My wife will be packing and she thinks I will be at meetings, dinners and presentations! So there will be extra clothes that won't be worn. LOL.
Pipe Layer99
01-22-18, 09:41
Thanks guys. I will be in Thailand for only 8 days so 30 day visa is fine. I thought about only carry on but having experienced other Asian countries I know the bags will beat me to the carousel and I don't want to be dropping clothes off at the laundry every second day.What? For an 8 day trip all I need is a backpack. Pack 4 pairs of shorts, 8 shirts (t-shirts, polos, whatever you like), 8 pairs of underwear, and wear 1 pair of comfortable walking shoes (bring some socks if you like), and a shaving kit with toothbrush. You're all set. If you want sandals, you can buy a pair when you arrive. I can fit all of that in a backpack along with a laptop, 2 cell phones, and all chargers. I'm certain you can find a way to pack that stuff in a 21 inch carry on (with extra room for condoms and lube).
Edit, just read your last post. Pack for yourself with the carry-on to fake it. ;)
a shaving kitThey let you bring either razors or an electric razor on board the plane?
They let you bring either razors or an electric razor on board the plane?I took both in carry on recently. Not separate, traditional razor blades but the fixed, Gillette type, obviously.
Pipe Layer99
01-22-18, 10:35
They let you bring either razors or an electric razor on board the plane?Yes. Shaving razors with plastic handles. NOT straight razors.
If you or the anyone else is worried about that you still have 2 other options. Check the bag or buy shaving razors after arrival. All 7-11 and Family Marts sell razons cheap as f@ck.
Besides the girls don't care if you shave or not. They only care about "how much".
They let you bring either razors or an electric razor on board the plane?Electric razor is no problem, I've carried mine on heaps of times.
Banana Boi
01-23-18, 06:50
If a girl made 3000-4000 baht per day, what is a reasonable monthly amount to pay a girl to live with you? Take her on a trip for a month (I assume this will be much lower given that you are paying for her trip)?
What if the girl only made 400-500 baht per day (ie. A girl who works in a retail store)?
What? For an 8 day trip all I need is a backpack. Pack 4 pairs of shorts, 8 shirts (t-shirts, polos, whatever you like), 8 pairs of underwear, and wear 1 pair of comfortable walking shoes (bring some socks if you like), and a shaving kit with toothbrush. You're all set. If you want sandals, you can buy a pair when you arrive. I can fit all of that in a backpack along with a laptop, 2 cell phones, and all chargers. I'm certain you can find a way to pack that stuff in a 21 inch carry on (with extra room for condoms and lube).
Edit, just read your last post. Pack for yourself with the carry-on to fake it. ;)Pack for myself would be great but my wife is Asian so that won't happen LOL and also that way she won't have 10 days to go thru my clothes at home and see what I DIDN'T take LOL. I thought about the self packed carry on but I'm travelling with my brother and he seems bent on booking luggage for what ever reason best known to him but I have 10 days to change his mind.
Rob.
Crazy4Thai
01-24-18, 00:27
If a girl made 3000-4000 baht per day, what is a reasonable monthly amount to pay a girl to live with you? Take her on a trip for a month (I assume this will be much lower given that you are paying for her trip)?
What if the girl only made 400-500 baht per day (ie. A girl who works in a retail store)?I had this discussion with a bar girl recently and in her case she expected to make the same as she would if she stayed in the bar, which according to her was more than 30,000. She works a beer bar. Hard to say if that is the norm or not. Perhaps it just meant that she was not that keen on extended time with me. As for the shop lady, she probably actually needs that daily amount. And what a bargain for you.
Take her on a trip for a month (I assume this will be much lower given that you are paying for her trip)?
What if the girl only made 400-500 baht per day (ie. A girl who works in a retail store)?I think that may depend on whether you want the shop girl to live full time with you or just go on a 1 month trip. She may be reluctant to go away for a month as she may not have a job to come back to.
Pack for myself would be great but my wife is Asian so that won't happen LOL and also that way she won't have 10 days to go thru my clothes at home and see what I DIDN'T take LOL. I thought about the self packed carry on but I'm travelling with my brother and he seems bent on booking luggage for what ever reason best known to him but I have 10 days to change his mind.I wouldn't be too worried about booking in luggage unless you want to take the train into town and then the BTS / Metro, then carry on is the way to go. If you arrive late at night / very early and the trains aren't running you need to take a taxi anyway. Your luggage will probably beat you through, immigration has been slow recently. You might get lucky and immigration is quiet and you get through really quickly, but the baggage handling in Bangkok is pretty efficient so you probably won't need to wait much, if at all.
I wouldn't be too worried about booking in luggage unless you want to take the train into town and then the BTS / Metro, then carry on is the way to go. If you arrive late at night / very early and the trains aren't running you need to take a taxi anyway. Your luggage will probably beat you through, immigration has been slow recently. You might get lucky and immigration is quiet and you get through really quickly, but the baggage handling in Bangkok is pretty efficient so you probably won't need to wait much, if at all.This is not directed at you specifically KStar but as someone who lives in SE Asia and has travelled extensively all over I think that if anyone is stressed by an extra 5 to 15 minutes waiting for baggage / immigration lines / taxis etc then you may not enjoy your times in Asia or the Pacific. What you make up for on the swings you will eventually lose on the roundabout.
I rarely travel light unless the visit is 4 days or less and then the carry-on is sufficient; any more than 4 days and I always take enough clothes / shoes etc with check-in bags to take concern about laundry or whether I have enough clothes out of the equation.
I am bewildered by the earlier comment about one's wife packing for him because she is Asian and that's what they do.
Wrong.
That has never happened in my lifetime after having both a western and Asian wife and I am perfectly OK with that. There's no way they could anticipate my needs whilst travelling, with or without mongering factored in.
I rarely travel light unless the visit is 4 days or less and then the carry-on is sufficient; any more than 4 days and I always take enough clothes / shoes etc with check-in bags to take concern about laundry or whether I have enough clothes out of the equation.I've been pretty much living in SE Asia for almost 20 years, on and off. If I'm going to Bangkok for a 4 to 5 days and don't need to do any work I can easily get away with carry on luggage. I usually find that if I need to attend meetings or to work then I need to check in luggage since my laptop and other wor stuff will take up all my carry on space. I'm not a overhead bin hog, so I don't like taking 2 peices on board. Of course, if I'm only going for a couple of days I can squeeze everything into 1 bag. I sometimes need to go somewhere for a few months and will be on construction sites so I obviously need to pack a fair amount and as I usually go to hard to get to places I can't always get a direct flight. Sometimes flight connections dictate an overnight stop (or I choose to have one).
Completely agree with your comment about packing. I have never let anyone else pack for me.
If a girl made 3000-4000 baht per day, what is a reasonable monthly amount to pay a girl to live with you? Take her on a trip for a month (I assume this will be much lower given that you are paying for her trip)?
What if the girl only made 400-500 baht per day (ie. A girl who works in a retail store)?If your going to make an honest woman out of her and have her quit the business I was told 25,000 per month to spend on what she wants is a good amount to consider. She wants a tv, has to come out of that allotment. She wants to send money home to the family, has to budget accordingly. This is from a friendly Australian chap who I chatted up. Otherwise the girl has her hand out every day asking for money.
But your talking about taking a hooker for a month on your travel, that's a different story. Is she going out of Thailand with you? If not she's just going to another city where she can make money. Don't be surprised if she ends of making money her own way if you don't give her enough spending money for herself and to send home. My guess would be 2000 baht per day, 30 days would be 60,000 baht. That's for a girl making top dollar. You go cheap she might want to go home and tell all of her friends that your a cheap charlie.
In my situation I've got a girl coming to stay with me for a few weeks who isn't a working girl. I plan on giving her roughly 10000 at the end plus money for shopping, etc. I also plan on handing her a few thousand every so often and having her send it back home.
I have been trying Durex and Okamoto 003 condoms which both work well for me with perhaps a slight advantage given to Okamoto.
Last time I was in BKK there was a WG that got Double Benefit condoms with her which I tried out. Any of you that tried them out? I thought that they were great but I don't have a clue about quality. Info would be greatly appreciated.
This is not directed at you specifically KStar but as someone who lives in SE Asia and has travelled extensively all over I think that if anyone is stressed by an extra 5 to 15 minutes waiting for baggage / immigration lines / taxis etc then you may not enjoy your times in Asia or the Pacific. What you make up for on the swings you will eventually lose on the roundabout.
I rarely travel light unless the visit is 4 days or less and then the carry-on is sufficient; any more than 4 days and I always take enough clothes / shoes etc with check-in bags to take concern about laundry or whether I have enough clothes out of the equation.
I am bewildered by the earlier comment about one's wife packing for him because she is Asian and that's what they do.
Wrong.
That has never happened in my lifetime after having both a western and Asian wife and I am perfectly OK with that. There's no way they could anticipate my needs whilst travelling, with or without mongering factored in.To clarify and to apologise for making generalisations it is what my Asian wife does in regards to packing. It is what she does and I don't know if her motive is to ensure that I have the correct clothing for my "business trips" or she has a sense of duty to do so. Either way I will take it.
To clarify and to apologise for making generalisations it is what my Asian wife does in regards to packing. It is what she does and I don't know if her motive is to ensure that I have the correct clothing for my "business trips" or she has a sense of duty to do so. Either way I will take it.No need to apologise, everybody has things they like and don't like. I'd never let my Asian wife (she's from China) pack for me though. I won't let her shop for me because I don't like what she buys me and end up never wearing what she buys, hence I won't let her pack for me because it won't be right. I'll end up with lots of really nice, thick dress shirts that will be way to thick and hot and very little that is comfortable.
I struck a bit of grief at Don Mueang Immigration yesterday after my Air Asia flight from Indonesia. I intended to enter Thailand visa free for a 30 day entry like I always do, and hadn't been in Thailand since mid November.
The chick on immigration was not impressed with my five 30 day visa exempt entries for all of 2017. She asked me why I didn't have a tourist visa to enter Thailand, as I was coming and going quite often to Thailand. I explained that I don't need a tourist visa as I am not staying 2 months only 30 days.
Then she asked me what I did for a living, and then asked for a return ticket. Luckily I had prepared a fake Air Asia ticket from Don Mueang to Kuala Lumpur for 3 weeks later so I showed her that. I had originally made this up in case I was asked by Air Asia check-in staff in Indonesia but they never asked.
After scrutinizing the ticket and going through all the pages of my passport for several minutes and looking terribly unimpressed, she then indicated to me to look into the webcam. So I got in. I suppose without my "onward ticket" I may not have been allowed to enter.
So be aware that even though they say that you can enter as many times as you want on the 30 day visa exempt entry, Thai Immigration don't appear to like it, and a tourist visa is probably a safer bet. It's just a hassle to pick up so I try and avoid it.
Banana Boi
01-26-18, 11:43
So be aware that even though they say that you can enter as many times as you want on the 30 day visa exempt entry, Thai Immigration don't appear to like it, and a tourist visa is probably a safer bet. It's just a hassle to pick up so I try and avoid it.This is no longer the case. Thailand is cracking down on people coming in multiple times on a visa exempt entry. They want to make money on people buying METV (multi entry tourist visa) which is simple to get and costs very little or apply for the Thai Visa Elite card. the main qualification is Thailand wants to see you have money in your bank account. Be happy you got in. Coming back in a couple of months you may not be so lucky.
Robert Long
01-26-18, 18:49
I struck a bit of grief at Don Mueang Immigration yesterday after my Air Asia flight from Indonesia. I intended to enter Thailand visa free for a 30 day entry like I always do, and hadn't been in Thailand since mid November.
The chick on immigration was not impressed with my five 30 day visa exempt entries for all of 2017. She asked me why I didn't have a tourist visa to enter Thailand, as I was coming and going quite often to Thailand. I explained that I don't need a tourist visa as I am not staying 2 months only 30 days.
Then she asked me what I did for a living, and then asked for a return ticket. Luckily I had prepared a fake Air Asia ticket from Don Mueang to Kuala Lumpur for 3 weeks later so I showed her that. I had originally made this up in case I was asked by Air Asia check-in staff in Indonesia but they never asked.
After scrutinizing the ticket and going through all the pages of my passport for several minutes and looking terribly unimpressed, she then indicated to me to look into the webcam. So I got in. I suppose without my "onward ticket" I may not have been allowed to enter.
So be aware that even though they say that you can enter as many times as you want on the 30 day visa exempt entry, Thai Immigration don't appear to like it, and a tourist visa is probably a safer bet. It's just a hassle to pick up so I try and avoid it.Sounds like you got an agent that was experiencing "that time of the month" that ladies go thru and have a salty disposition. I have never been questioned coming to Bkk and I enter 5 times year. Nexttime choose a line that has a male inspector.
RL.
There is an Okamoto 002. As for QC, blow it up to fist size and stick it under a sink of water and check for leaks. Keep blowing and see if it bursts before it gets to be several times the size of your equipment. IMHO, I like the US brands because I can get prelubed with spermicide; but they are thick. Also, best to lube just before as some prelube weakens the latex. Also, with some girls, the latex just tends to fail more.
I have been trying Durex and Okamoto 003 condoms which both work well for me with perhaps a slight advantage given to Okamoto.
Last time I was in BKK there was a WG that got Double Benefit condoms with her which I tried out. Any of you that tried them out? I thought that they were great but I don't have a clue about quality. Info would be greatly appreciated.
I had my plastic handle ones removed in the US and in Asia. They are free at most hotels so I tend to leave it behind if travelling only with carry on. I usually have one check in for all the stuff you cannot take on as carry on. However, the no check in list is also getting longer.
Yes. Shaving razors with plastic handles. NOT straight razors.
If you or the anyone else is worried about that you still have 2 other options. Check the bag or buy shaving razors after arrival. All 7-11 and Family Marts sell razons cheap as f@ck.
Besides the girls don't care if you shave or not. They only care about "how much".As for allowances, I heard a much smaller number for year long arrangements with regular girls. The one thing I always thought important is to make sure the girl is happy and that it is sufficient. If it is not sufficient, it will increase her chances of going elsewhere if you are not on site to guard your merchandise. I would stay away from bar girls unless it is a short term arrangement. So Crazy4 Thai, your number sounds fair and reasonable. The question is can she get her job back when she tries to return.
I had this discussion with a bar girl recently and in her case she expected to make the same as she would if she stayed in the bar, which according to her was more than 30,000. She works a beer bar. Hard to say if that is the norm or not. Perhaps it just meant that she was not that keen on extended time with me. As for the shop lady, she probably actually needs that daily amount. And what a bargain for you.
If a girl made 3000-4000 baht per day, what is a reasonable monthly amount to pay a girl to live with you? Take her on a trip for a month (I assume this will be much lower given that you are paying for her trip)?
What if the girl only made 400-500 baht per day (ie. A girl who works in a retail store)?
If your going to make an honest woman out of her and have her quit the business I was told 25,000 per month to spend on what she wants is a good amount to consider. She wants a tv, has to come out of that allotment. She wants to send money home to the family, has to budget accordingly. This is from a friendly Australian chap who I chatted up. Otherwise the girl has her hand out every day asking for money.
But your talking about taking a hooker for a month on your travel, that's a different story. Is she going out of Thailand with you? If not she's just going to another city where she can make money. Don't be surprised if she ends of making money her own way if you don't give her enough spending money for herself and to send home. My guess would be 2000 baht per day, 30 days would be 60,000 baht..
Sounds like you got an agent that was experiencing "that time of the month" that ladies go thru and have a salty disposition. I have never been questioned coming to Bkk and I enter 5 times year. Nexttime choose a line that has a male inspector.
RL.I always choose a line with a female inspector, because I think women work faster. Unless maybe when it's "that time of the month" LOL.
I had a question about visa exempt entries lately and I got this reply in post #9354:
"Travelers, under visa exemption scheme, arriving via an international airport will be given a 30 day visa exempt stamp, however people using OUT / IN method to extend their stay might be questioned after 6 visa exempt entries."
"Travelers, under visa exemption scheme, arriving via an international airport will be given a 30 day visa exempt stamp, however people using OUT / IN method to extend their stay might be questioned after 6 visa exempt entries."I'm heading to Bangkok for a couple of days next week and I was there about 6 or 7 times last year on visa exempt, so I'll let everyone know if I have a problem. Several of my trips were visa runs from other countries whilst waiting for work permits to come through.
Crazy4Thai
01-29-18, 04:28
I had my plastic handle ones removed in the US and in Asia. They are free at most hotels so I tend to leave it behind if travelling only with carry on. I usually have one check in for all the stuff you cannot take on as carry on. However, the no check in list is also getting longer.
As for allowances, I heard a much smaller number for year long arrangements with regular girls. The one thing I always thought important is to make sure the girl is happy and that it is sufficient. If it is not sufficient, it will increase her chances of going elsewhere if you are not on site to guard your merchandise. I would stay away from bar girls unless it is a short term arrangement. So Crazy4 Thai, your number sounds fair and reasonable. The question is can she get her job back when she tries to return.Well to clarify, it is not MY number it is the number that SHE quoted. And as for returning to work in that beer bar I cannot imagine why not. She is a top earner there and generally speaking workers who leave on good terms are welcome to return whether it is a beer bar or restaurant or whatever. I have see this many times.
This is no longer the case. Thailand is cracking down on people coming in multiple times on a visa exempt entry. They want to make money on people buying METV (multi entry tourist visa) which is simple to get and costs very little or apply for the Thai Visa Elite card. the main qualification is Thailand wants to see you have money in your bank account. Be happy you got in. Coming back in a couple of months you may not be so lucky.I'm in Ho Chi Minh now. My visa application to Thailand was just rejected, though I paid $40 for it. My friend works at the Thai embassy in HCM and told me that the consular didn't like the fact that I had 4 visas in the last year alone. Funny, I gave them bank statements from the USA banks showing I was withdrawing $930 or 30,000 baht every 3 days for the last year alone. How can I be working in Thailand, when I'm withdrawing money from the USA to spend in your country? She inquired about my rejection and says the consular is wary because I'm retired and do not work at such a young age. We only have to show that we have $600 for a 60 days visa. I showed much more than that plus last year I donated 2,000,000 baht to Thai charity and organizations with receipts. Upon further questioning, the consular got mad at her and told her that it's not normal for someone not to have to work and have been on vacation for the last 3 years. I'm still kind of confused to what's the problem? I've contributed over $200,000 to the Thai economy in 2017, so why can't I take a holiday there?
Anyways. I decided to take a detour to Phu Quoc Island to relax a bit. Koh Thmei, Thailand is just a fisherman's boat ride away. The things I'm able to do is shocking! Watch me get to Pattaya soon. No visa, no 30 day stamp. No problem!
I'm in Ho Chi Minh now. My visa application to Thailand was just rejected, though I paid $40 for it. My friend works at the Thai embassy in HCM and told me that the consular didn't like the fact that I had 4 visas in the last year alone. Funny, I gave them bank statements from the USA banks showing I was withdrawing $930 or 30,000 baht every 3 days for the last year alone. How can I be working in Thailand, when I'm withdrawing money from the USA to spend in your country? Anyways. I decided to take a detour to Phu Quoc Island to relax a bit. Koh Thmei, Thailand is just a fisherman's boat ride away. The things I'm able to do is shocking! Watch me get to Pattaya soon. No visa, no 30 day stamp. No problem!The consular is concerned because you are young, unemployed, and are throwing a lot of money around. It is unusual and his caution is understandable. He may think you are trafficking, dealing drugs, or doing something else that is highly profitable and illegal.
Too bad you can't show him your posts on ISG to prove you are just having fun and not up to anything bad.
Anyways. I decided to take a detour to Phu Quoc Island to relax a bit. Koh Thmei, Thailand is just a fisherman's boat ride away. The things I'm able to do is shocking! Watch me get to Pattaya soon. No visa, no 30 day stamp. No problem!The way the hotels record everything how would one go about getting a room without the right tourist visa to show the hotel?
MutantChicken
01-29-18, 21:32
I'm in Ho Chi Minh now. My visa application to Thailand was just rejected, though I paid $40 for it. My friend works at the Thai embassy in HCM and told me that the consular didn't like the fact that I had 4 visas in the last year alone. Funny, I gave them bank statements from the USA banks showing I was withdrawing $930 or 30,000 baht every 3 days for the last year alone. How can I be working in Thailand, when I'm withdrawing money from the USA to spend in your country? She inquired about my rejection and says the consular is wary because I'm retired and do not work at such a young age. We only have to show that we have $600 for a 60 days visa. I showed much more than that plus last year I donated 2,000,000 baht to Thai charity and organizations with receipts. Upon further questioning, the consular got mad at her and told her that it's not normal for someone not to have to work and have been on vacation for the last 3 years. I'm still kind of confused to what's the problem? I've contributed over $200,000 to the Thai economy in 2017, so why can't I take a holiday there?
Anyways. I decided to take a detour to Phu Quoc Island to relax a bit. Koh Thmei, Thailand is just a fisherman's boat ride away. The things I'm able to do is shocking! Watch me get to Pattaya soon. No visa, no 30 day stamp. No problem!You might want to check you geography whilst koh thmei might be named in the same fashion as other islands in Thai with the prefix koh, koh thmei is Cambodian as is koh kong, you would need to get to koh kut, trat province before you are back on Thai soil.
Banana Boi
01-30-18, 01:57
I'm in Ho Chi Minh now. My visa application to Thailand was just rejected, though I paid $40 for it. My friend works at the Thai embassy in HCM and told me that the consular didn't like the fact that I had 4 visas in the last year alone. Two likely ways to get around it. As I mentioned before, apply for a Multi entry Tourist Visa to avoid the crackdown of those entering on too many 'free' Visas. You may not qualify for this any longer since you have been marked.
The sure fire way is to get a Thai Elite Visa. http://www.thai-elite.com/programs.html Only criteria are money in bank (I think it's 800 k baht now), criminal record check, health check. 500 k baht for 5 years, 1 million baht for 20 years.
Jimmy Boy 99
01-30-18, 03:08
Two likely ways to get around it. As I mentioned before, apply for a Multi entry Tourist Visa to avoid the crackdown of those entering on too many 'free' Visas. You may not qualify for this any longer since you have been marked.
The sure fire way is to get a Thai Elite Visa. http://www.thai-elite.com/programs.html Only criteria are money in bank (I think it's 800 k baht now), criminal record check, health check. 500 k baht for 5 years, 1 million baht for 20 years.If he's over 50, he could apply for a one-year (renewable) retirement visa, since he has the requisite financial resources.
Two likely ways to get around it. As I mentioned before, apply for a Multi entry Tourist Visa to avoid the crackdown of those entering on too many 'free' Visas. You may not qualify for this any longer since you have been marked.
The sure fire way is to get a Thai Elite Visa. http://www.thai-elite.com/programs.html Only criteria are money in bank (I think it's 800 k baht now), criminal record check, health check. 500 k baht for 5 years, 1 million baht for 20 years.I believe he is on the younger side and would not qualify for a retirement visa. Thai Elite would be the way to go. 500 K for 5 years and I don't believe there is a deposit requirement.
Banana Boi
01-30-18, 08:24
I believe he is on the younger side and would not qualify for a retirement visa. Unfortunately I'm too young to apply for a retirement visa as well. Must be over 50. It's the no Brainer way to go for anyone over 50.
Unfortunately I'm too young to apply for a retirement visa as well. Must be over 50. It's the no Brainer way to go for anyone over 50.Absolutely. But let me tell you from experience; it's about the only good thing about turning 50.
Absolutely. But let me tell you from experience; it's about the only good thing about turning 50.Hey, at 50 you're also only ten years away from qualifying for the Senior Discount cards at SF CINEMA and MAJOR CINEPLEX!
The sure fire way is to get a Thai Elite Visa. http://www.thai-elite.com/programs.html Only criteria are money in bank (I think it's 800 k baht now), criminal record check, health check. 500 k baht for 5 years, 1 million baht for 20 years.Unfortunately he won't pass the criminal record check when he gets caught trying to enter Thailand without a visa LOL.
After chilling with some local fishermen in Phu Qouc, they got the idea that I was a stand up guy and I could be trusted. They agreed to help me get to Thailand through a Cambodian refugee route. Apparently, the route in itself isn't monitored much because there was no need for an outsider from a 1st world country to ever pull off something like this. Who the heck sneaks into Thailand but has a USA passport? So the fishermen from Phu Quoc are acquainted with those in the small villages of Koh Thmei. I was told there is but a couple of small poor settlements on that island that does trade with the Vietnamese in Phu Quoc. So I suggested that I buy and give to the poor Cambodian villagers in exchange for their help to get me to Thailand. My Vietnamese fisherman guide thought that was a nice gesture and great idea. I guess simple people don't care as much about money as we think. To get their help, I had to win their trust. So I went of an bought about 40,000,000 VND worth of milk and sugar to give to the Cambodian villagers.
Of course I then was able to hide myself and my luggage in that shipment of goods to the Cambodian village on a fishing boat. It wasn't that long until we reached the village. I'm not certain of the name but kept hearing the fishermen say "Chong Chong. " There the people unloaded the milk and sugar and there was a conversation between the Vietnamese fishermen and the Cambodians about helping me to get to Thailand. My guide told me that he and his team will have to go back to Phu Quoc, but the Cambodian fishermen agreed to take me along the national park by boat to a major highway that connected to Prey Nob. From there, they have a plenty of friends that can help me all the way to Thailand. So after a seafood lunch with all the villagers from both islands, I was shipped off on another boat ride through Cambodia.
Once we landed near the highway, it wasn't but about 10 minutes when we were picked up by an English speaking Cambodian. He was the son of one of the fishermen. His dad told him that I needed help and he was to get me into Thailand. The meeting was short and I was rushed into his Prius. At this point. I was thinking "Dang, I'm getting human trafficked. " Actually it wasn't a bad trip, so far. Nobody asked me for money, but I paid the Vietnamese fishermen for their time anyways. In Prey Nob, I paid cash for a hotel for 1 night in US dollars and it wasn't an issue. The next day the guy with the Prius picked me up for breakfast before our journey to the Koh Kong beach near the Thai border and told me that his father mentioned to him of the nice deed I did for the villagers with the milk and sugar. I told him "no problem."
He talked about how poor the people are and that the government fails to take care of its own. All this money spent to on the military and for power or political struggles, while the people suffers. He told me that people are starving in Cambodia in places like Prey Nob far away from tourists. I felt kind of bad, so I told him I wanted to help as a way of saying "thanks" for him driving me to the Thai-Cambo border. So before we left the city. We stopped by a store where I purchased about $1000 worth of noodles, rice, and condiments. He then called ahead to a local temple. And when we arrived, there were already quite a few people, who waited patiently for our gift. We just helped unload and then I was off for my 4 1/2 hour ride to Koh Kong where I was to meet his Thai buddy. Like most Thai's, this guy expected and was in it for the money and I of course had to pay a fee for transport. So wish me good luck! It's nap time.
I've never ever heard anyone get their visa application rejected when the papers were in order. There are no limits on amount of visas in a year etc. , so either bullshitting or the 'friend' fucked up the application?
Either way, just find an 'easy' consulate, and apply there. I hear one in Bali is pretty lax. Take like at least a week outside the Thai borders before you apply again too, I would say.
Not sure if you got a special 'denied' stamp in your passport though, which may hinder.
I'm in Bangkok now. God has bestowed upon me some serious powers to succeed in my journey. So I'm having a quick meal at Terminal 21 and later it will be time to play with the ladies. Hopefully we can hang out soon, buddy old pal.
Dude,
This is getting into serious territory. You will end up in deep trouble if you don't exit the same way without official notification. If you exit through official routes, they will look for your entry and then let you rest in their prison facility because you did not enter officially. When they let you out, several years later, they will ban you from entering the country again.
After chilling with some local fishermen in Phu Qouc, they got the idea that I was a stand up guy and I could be trusted. They agreed to help me get to Thailand through a Cambodian refugee route.
So wish me good luck! It's nap time.
Banana Boi
02-01-18, 06:10
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/local/new-train-service-bangkok-pattaya-start-march/
Will be an interesting option to get to Bangkok. Says fare will be economical.
Dude,
This is getting into serious territory. You will end up in deep trouble if you don't exit the same way without official notification. If you exit through official routes, they will look for your entry and then let you rest in their prison facility because you did not enter officially. When they let you out, several years later, they will ban you from entering the country again.I can't answer for the Paw but I suspect (and sincerely hope) he has this figured out. Either way his recent adventure was interesting reading as are most of his posts.
Crocodilexp
02-01-18, 07:26
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/local/new-train-service-bangkok-pattaya-start-march/
Will be an interesting option to get to Bangkok. Says fare will be economical.There's already a train (non-aircon, hard seats), once a day, departing at some ungodly morning hour (6:30 am), and taking way too long to arrive (4-5 h, as I recall). It costs 30 baht.
The new train might be more comfortable, and perhaps faster (they renovated the track), but it's still a 6:30 am departure, and only one per day, so I doubt it'll be convenient to anyone. If departure time were closer to noon, more tourists might be interested.
The new train might be more comfortable, and perhaps faster (they renovated the track), but it's still a 6:30 am departure, and only one per day, so I doubt it'll be convenient to anyone. If departure time were closer to noon, more tourists might be interested.Plus it will only run on the weekend.
I can't answer for the Paw but I suspect (and sincerely hope) he has this figured out. Either way his recent adventure was interesting reading as are most of his posts.I too am reading and I'm thinking that while he is writing I don't have to buy any novels to read.
Ahhhh. Was not following the posts. But the last ones were the ones I read and wanted to give MonkeyPaw a heads up in that he cannot leave by official channels and he is in for a world of hurt if he is stopped by authorities.
Even his hotel / residence could turn him in if they checked the stamps on his passport. I have had front desk girls flip through my passport or even make a copy of the front page in some countries. They try to hide it behind the counter but I am very wary of such things.
I can't answer for the Paw but I suspect (and sincerely hope) he has this figured out. Either way his recent adventure was interesting reading as are most of his posts.
Dude,
This is getting into serious territory. You will end up in deep trouble if you don't exit the same way without official notification. If you exit through official routes, they will look for your entry and then let you rest in their prison facility because you did not enter officially. When they let you out, several years later, they will ban you from entering the country again.
I'm in Bangkok now. God has bestowed upon me some serious powers to succeed in my journey. So I'm having a quick meal at Terminal 21 and later it will be time to play with the ladies. Hopefully we can hang out soon, buddy old pal.
I too am reading and I'm thinking that while he is writing I don't have to buy any novels to read.That's the problem. If he's writing this with fiction sprinkled in between, it's problematic because now people will actually think they can get their visa denied.
Banana Boi
02-02-18, 03:46
Plus it will only run on the weekend.I missed that part in the article. This, in addition to the stupid hours, makes the train utterly useless to us who primarily want to hobby.
Ahhhh. Was not following the posts. But the last ones were the ones I read and wanted to give MonkeyPaw a heads up in that he cannot leave by official channels and he is in for a world of hurt if he is stopped by authorities.
Even his hotel / residence could turn him in if they checked the stamps on his passport. I have had front desk girls flip through my passport or even make a copy of the front page in some countries. They try to hide it behind the counter but I am very wary of such things.Thanks for the advice and help, but Monkeypaw is classic. If you do your research online, you can follow Monkeypaw's adventures throughout many sex guide boards in years past. Actually my old ISG account has some legendary posts from the days of Nuevo Laredo in Texas. I'm always breaking rules and having fun doing so! By the way, I really wanted just to ignore those think who this is "fiction. " But I'm beginning to realize that some members on here are either Monkeypaw fans and some just really have a disdain view of the ole Monkeypaw. That means they don't like me one bit. And for those who are PMing me with support on my posts. "Thanks, sorry I can't respond to them all."
Just in case, you had doubts. Look at the dates in the conversation photos attached, bit out of order. Click on my profile and follow my ISG posts to see my locations. You'll get the idea soon enough. Monkeypaw is always a step ahead in matters like this. Why would I do so much work to create fiction? It's not like it's the end of the world and Monkeypaw has nothing else to do, right? Enjoy!
I'm sure Thai train travel is very slow but I have always wanted to take a short train trip. Preferably not a trip that starts at 6:30AM like the BKK-Pattaya route. Has anybody taken the train from BKK to Hua Hin? Or for that matter the boat service from Pattaya to Hua Hin? I'd be curious what that is like.
I'm sure Thai train travel is very slow but I have always wanted to take a short train trip. You did say "short", but I can vouch for the Bkk to Vientiane (Lao PDR) trip.
Of course it stops on the Thai side of the border at Nong Khai and you need to bus to Vientiane after the border crossing but you know what I mean.
4 choices for departure times. Overnight or day.
Takes 8 - 12 hours depending on your choice of departure time.
Leaves from Hualamphong.
I missed that part in the article. This, in addition to the stupid hours, makes the train utterly useless to us who primarily want to hobby.I think it's aiming at Bangkok residents who want to go to (the beach in) Pattaya for a day in the weekend. So that's why it's leaving at 6:30 AM and going back to Bangkok at 3:50 PM.
I'm sure Thai train travel is very slow Slow and bumpy. I've taken the night train once to Chiang Mai. It was a nice trip but it was quite bumpy because the tracks were not smooth.
But that was back in 2004. Maybe they have improved the tracks in the meantime.
Even his hotel / residence could turn him in if they checked the stamps on his passport. I have had front desk girls flip through my passport or even make a copy of the front page in some countries. They try to hide it behind the counter but I am very wary of such things.Every each of them do check the validity of your passport and if you have the stamps on it and keep a copy of it. Even in the apartment types of residence. Once I was asked to produce again my passport after having checked in in an apartment in Pattaya because they couldn't see clearly the stamps on the copy they made of my passport.
That's the problem. If he's writing this with fiction sprinkled in between, it's problematic because now people will actually think they can get their visa denied.It's absolutely possible to have your visa denied. I come from a western European country and it's been a while that they are being more strict with the visa delivering. For example you have to be out of Thailand for at least 3 month before being able to get a new visa. Nowadays they also only deliver the single entry visa (for tourists).
I'm sure Thai train travel is very slow but I have always wanted to take a short train trip. Preferably not a trip that starts at 6:30AM like the BKK-Pattaya route. Has anybody taken the train from BKK to Hua Hin? Or for that matter the boat service from Pattaya to Hua Hin? I'd be curious what that is like.I took the train once from Chiang Mai to BKK, and I think I was in the economical class with small fans everywhere and windows wide open. It took more than 20 hours. Would never do it again, such a pain in the ass.
Actually have heard of people denied visas. I am with you on the sprinkling. Now, many jurisdictions are digitizing their entry and exit scans so you can get red flagged and make future passages cumbersome. Even if the fault is not yours and immigration messed up. They are hard to clear up.
Think Monkey is going to burn Vietnam because he will be overstaying, no exit record, and Thailand, when they catch him. His next entries and exits will raise red flags and lead to big problems. A nice rest at their facilities. It is not like the old days where changing a passport or getting a fake stamp solves the problem because hard to match the records.
You see people being led away from the interview rooms at airports all the time. Saw a guy in a suit being led away in Singapore last month. Looked like a regular businessman.
That's the problem. If he's writing this with fiction sprinkled in between, it's problematic because now people will actually think they can get their visa denied.
I too am reading and I'm thinking that while he is writing I don't have to buy any novels to read.
Ahhhh. Was not following the posts. But the last ones were the ones I read and wanted to give MonkeyPaw a heads up in that he cannot leave by official channels and he is in for a world of hurt if he is stopped by authorities.
Even his hotel / residence could turn him in if they checked the stamps on his passport. I have had front desk girls flip through my passport or even make a copy of the front page in some countries. They try to hide it behind the counter but I am very wary of such things.
Hotman 666
02-02-18, 18:07
If you want to try a SHORTER train journey then BKK to Kanchanaburi may be worth a try.
I took this trip a few years ago.
From BKK I seem to remember it took about two hours and the cost was 100 Baht.
The train had wooden seats and open side windows. At each stop locals got on selling hot food and drinks.
I ended up sharing a bottle of Thai whisky with the "friendly neighborhood drunk" so the trip was good fun.
Also enjoyed my few days stay in Kanchanabury (Bridge over the river Kwai.).
See my short report from 2012. (Post #1423 )
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1034-Other-Areas&p=1331565[/URL]#post1331565.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
StLouisMo2010
02-02-18, 21:58
I'm sure Thai train travel is very slow but I have always wanted to take a short train trip. Preferably not a trip that starts at 6:30AM like the BKK-Pattaya route. Has anybody taken the train from BKK to Hua Hin? Or for that matter the boat service from Pattaya to Hua Hin? I'd be curious what that is like.I took a train from "Ekonomoi Station" BKK to "Ayuthaya" (sorry about the spelling), it was maybe two hours, mixed locals and tourists, interesting areas to see, and once at Ayuthaya enjoyed the sites with a "tut tut" for a few hours, then took a mini-van back to BKK, all doable alone but I had a nice Thai lady with me to do the logistics and relax with when we got back to BKK hotel.
I think the ruins in Ayuthaya are more impressive than the Temples in BKK.
The train had open windows, vendors selling food and beverage, it got quite full over the trip but not terrible, not too rough, I would do it again, I think it was 40 baht per person.
OK MonkeyPaw. Hehe. If I were you, I would clean up the Vietnam portion. I believe travel agencies can keep renewing your tourist visa for you and keep you current. You can probably find a legit way to get a LT visa in Thailand though being a pussy expert probably does not qualify! LOL. Good luck and keep on posting.
Thanks for the advice and help, but Monkeypaw is classic.
Just in case, you had doubts. Look at the dates in the conversation photos attached, bit out of order. Click on my profile and follow my ISG posts to see my locations. You'll get the idea soon enough. Monkeypaw is always a step ahead in matters like this. Why would I do so much work to create fiction? It's not like it's the end of the world and Monkeypaw has nothing else to do, right? Enjoy!
OK MonkeyPaw. Hehe. If I were you, I would clean up the Vietnam portion. I believe travel agencies can keep renewing your tourist visa for you and keep you current. You can probably find a legit way to get a LT visa in Thailand though being a pussy expert probably does not qualify! LOL. Good luck and keep on posting.I am visa exempt in Vietnam. So I just go back the same way I came. If Mexicans can cross into the United States, if Cambodians can cross into Thailand, what do you think an highly educated individual with more than enough money to play with can do when needing to get somewhere? Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand. 3 countries with poor fishing villages that have unregulated trade with each other. All I know is I'm enjoying Bangkok now and will be in Pattaya next week. At least I'm not sleeping on the streets!
HorneeFalang
02-04-18, 08:08
These days it takes longer to get through immigration than it does for the bags to arrive, unless you're flying business class and can use the express lane. I went through immigration a few months ago and the line was back down to the duty free shops.Yes. Sad times in that respect.
Good to hear. Look at the APEC business next time.
I am visa exempt in Vietnam. So I just go back the same way I came. If Mexicans can cross into the United States, if Cambodians can cross into Thailand, what do you think an highly educated individual with more than enough money to play with can do when needing to get somewhere? Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand. 3 countries with poor fishing villages that have unregulated trade with each other. All I know is I'm enjoying Bangkok now and will be in Pattaya next week. At least I'm not sleeping on the streets!
I meant to say APEC Business Card.
Good to hear. Look at the APEC business next time..
Crocodilexp
02-05-18, 19:53
It's absolutely possible to have your visa denied.It certainly happens. No need for second hand info. I was personally denied a tourist visa at one of the Thai consulates (although I complied with all the requirements and obtained visas there before at the same place without a problem). And a few weeks later obtained the same visa type at a different consulate, with LESS documentation.
They didn't tell me the reason, just a receipt with a "visa refused" written, so I can only speculate, but the refusal was probably due to them not liking the number of previous Thai visas in my passport (about 4-5 over several years, does not seem excessive to me, nor to the other consulate).
Yes. Sad times in that respect.We arrived on Saturday and through pretty quick.
My experience for what it's worth. I thought it would be hard to get women to let me photograph or videotape them. Almost all were okay with letting me take a picture of them clothed. One would not let me take a photo of her face but let me photo her tits. I asked a woman I was in bed with to let me take a photo of her topless and she reluctantly let me after a bit of cajoling. She started to give me a blow job and a I reached for the camera to photo. I was just teasing her and said so but she got excited about the idea and had me pick back up the phone and tape it. She watched the video several times and over a few days would en our age me to video her blowing me. She loved to watch them and would position things so the lighting was correct, or hand me the camera before starting. She was very concerned I never show anyone and made me promise numerous times not to.
Another woman would let me take nude photos of her. In close pictures of her pussy or ass, and pictures of her nude. She let me take videos of her dressing and some photos of me fingerings her. But she never wanted to look at them afterwards. I never asked to set up the camera to get a better video. I would just hand hold it, so they are not as good as the first woman's videos.
I asked one woman to take nude photos of her, but she wanted to participate in some beauty pageant in the future and was worried they would show up somewhere and said no.
I wish I had asked more women for pictures. I just assumed they would say no so didn't ask. The 2 I spoke about above, I had weeks long relationships with, so that might be part of why they let me.
Anyway, if you want to videotape or take photos, just ask. Many will say okay. None seemed to be bothered by me asking.
StLouisMo2010
02-17-18, 18:35
I am returning to Thailand for 7th time in April, will primarily be in Pattaya, but I am creating my itinerary (12 days) which may include some day trips to Cambodia, or the Islands. I may not want to take along my big suitcase. Are there any facilities at the airport which will hold luggage for a few days?
Second. I love fishing, inland, any one have information on locations, guides, facilities which they recommend- I found several not be be dependable.
I like to mix tourism, good food, and good hotels on my visits, and a few ladies, so I will appreciate your help, and I can be called upon for information as well. Cheers.
Banana Boi
02-18-18, 03:11
Google airportels for luggage storage. 100 baht per day any size. One at suvarabhumi, terminal 21, central world in Bangkok. For a small fee they will also deliver around Bangkok.
Google airportels for luggage storage. 100 baht per day any size. One at suvarabhumi, terminal 21, central world in Bangkok. For a small fee they will also deliver around Bangkok.A lot of the BTS stations have them now as well. They are also available at the airport link stations.
PartyAnimal
02-20-18, 06:55
Sitting there relaxing during the long journey? Many people (including me) cannot sleep in airplanes and are tired as hell after a long flight. So I understand very well that he's looking for an easy option for his first night.Thanks mate for your kind words!
Man get your lazy ass out and explore the place. You act like you are the one that will be flying the plane. You will be sitting there relaxing during the long journey. So unless you need a break from a break go see what the place has to offer instead of bullshitting around with websites and apps.Well, friend. I did exactly just that. However, reaching the place after a 10 HR long flight, there was limited energy to go out and explore immediately and that is where I was looking for guidance and sharing information (which happens to be the main purpose of this forum, ain't it?
If you're so concerned about your color. And have the money to offer much of BP and 4/5 star massage places why not just go for escort services. They're the same price as pretty much any BP girl (without the chance of scams) and will directly tell you if your color is an issue.Much of the BP / CL pages are from escort agencies brother. For a person not much versed with a a new country, even escort ads are miss or hit. At least in my experience, I have found services of independent girls better than escort agencies (bait and switch being too common in SE Asia).
First time heading to Thailand.
Looking for bareback all the way. Tired of covers in my other travels. I don't mind doing extra work and paying a little more.
Can any Thailand monger veteran tell me about the differences, with respect to mongering for bareback, between Bangkok, Phucket, Pattaya, other areas? I'm 29, Filipino from USA, if you think that matters to how locals perceive me.
Happy to meet up / buy you a beer and session for helping guide my trip.
Thanks!
StLouisMo2010
02-22-18, 16:26
Any information from knowledgeable members on this option? I may want a day or two break from Pattaya and thought this might be something to do and visit another destination.
Any information from knowledgeable members on this option? I may want a day or two break from Pattaya and thought this might be something to do and visit another destination.I guess you mean Hua Hin? Just google 'hua hin pattaya boat' and you'll get all the info you want.
Banana Boi
02-26-18, 03:19
I've decided to leave during Songkran again. I know Songkran in bkk is April 13th to 15th. Can anyone confirm the dates in pattaya? I read 11th to 20th but I recall songkran only being a week long in pattaya.
I've decided to leave during Songkran again. I know Songkran in bkk is April 13th to 15th. Can anyone confirm the dates in pattaya? I read 11th to 20th but I recall songkran only being a week long in pattaya.I would say from the 12th to 19th included (19th being the worst day).
I've decided to leave during Songkran again. I know Songkran in bkk is April 13th to 15th. Can anyone confirm the dates in pattaya? I read 11th to 20th but I recall songkran only being a week long in pattaya.Yep, 11th to 20th with the big party on 19th.
Some locals have told me that things get back to normal on 20th but I think I will avoid the place when I visit in April. Hope BKK is less splashy, at least it is only the weekend in BKK (13th, 14th and 15th).
Yep, 11th to 20th with the big party on 19th.
Some locals have told me that things get back to normal on 20th but I think I will avoid the place when I visit in April. Hope BKK is less splashy, at least it is only the weekend in BKK (13th, 14th and 15th).I think the 15th of April will be the last Water War day since it is a Sunday. But I have been through 5 Songkran Weeks in a row here in Bangkok and none of them only lasted 3 days, not even the one following the King's passing. Not in the bar areas at least. I think you can count on Thursday the 12th being the start of the Water Wars in the bar areas if not the afternoon of Wednesday the 11th.
All it takes is one eager beaver per block who just can't wait to be the first to soak a Farang (or a fellow Farang) with a sneak attack to get things started. And there is no shortage of them by the dozens per block all over the city and especially within 2-3 blocks of the bar areas.
IMHO, you will have more fun in PI if you speak Tagalog. Think you will be quite marketable and tap regular girls. Just get the girl on some birth control first. You don't want leave a human trail.
First time heading to Thailand.
Looking for bareback all the way. Tired of covers in my other travels. I don't mind doing extra work and paying a little more.
Can any Thailand monger veteran tell me about the differences, with respect to mongering for bareback, between Bangkok, Phucket, Pattaya, other areas? I'm 29, Filipino from USA, if you think that matters to how locals perceive me.
Happy to meet up / buy you a beer and session for helping guide my trip.
Thanks!
First time heading to Thailand.
Looking for bareback all the way. Tired of covers in my other travels. I don't mind doing extra work and paying a little more.
Can any Thailand monger veteran tell me about the differences, with respect to mongering for bareback, between Bangkok, Phucket, Pattaya,
Thanks!Not super hard to find a girl in BKK to go bareback (with no added cost) , but if you want a much higher batting average, my suggestion is to bring oraquik test kits from the US (for your own sense of comfort and hers). Or go to a hospital and get a hiv test plus syphillis in 4 hours. (will cost you 100 usd or so at bumrungrad). Such an assurance and perhaps even a slight monetary incentive should work reasonably well for you. So will your age.
I think the 15th of April will be the last Water War day since it is a Sunday.
I think you can count on Thursday the 12th being the start of the Water Wars in the bar areas if not the afternoon of Wednesday the 11th.
No escape. Might as well just enjoy it. Songkran now officially a 5 day event.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1419407/5-day-songkran-holiday-approved?utm_source=bangkopost.com&utm_medium=article_learning&utm_campaign=most_recent_box
LittleBigMan
02-28-18, 02:11
When it comes to Songkran, Pattaya is the worse of them all. I've been to the Bangkok and haven't been everywhere in Thailand but enough to see Bangkok for the capital is very tame in my opinion. It last about 3 days, many tell me Bangkok isn't indicative of what Thailand is all about that people actually dress different and got to go to a real job. I wear shorts only and when I go Bangkok, on the BTS, look around I'm a minority.
Three days is about right, I feel the whole country should set it up where they celebrate it all on the same dates and be done with it. Here in Pattaya, Chon Buri province it starts about 7-10 days before the 19th, suppose the final days but if you are hard core and need a shower, you can head down to Sattahip, Bang Suray on the 20th. The hardest play area is down starting early and get worse is down Beach Road, starting Soi 6,7.8. 9, But getting wet can happen anytime even at night going to W. S. If it fires you up my suggestion is don't come! The closer to the 19th, these areas get worse at night if I go out, I take a change of clothes on my bike and wear a plastic 29 baht wear and throw away plastic tarp.
Pattaya is basically a resort location swim wear type is completely opposite of Bangkok, which is just ideal during Songkran. As it gets closer to the 19th, every district starts to rev up, Jomtien, Darkside, Naklua, 18th, particularly 19th, Sukhumvit is a parking lot, if you want to party and patient you can go throughout Pattaya on the 18-19 and it would seem a storm front has hit Pattaya.
Personally, if one has to ask if they are going to get wet, the answer from me is don't come!
Banana Boi
02-28-18, 05:13
Bangkok for the capital is very tame in my opinion. It last about 3 days, many tell me Bangkok isn't indicative of what Thailand is all about that people actually dress different and got to go to a real job. I was wondering how bad it may be in Bangkok. I'd be pretty upset wearing an expensive suit getting drenched by p1 ss water on my way to a business meeting.
I was wondering how bad it may be in Bangkok. I'd be pretty upset wearing an expensive suit getting drenched by p1 ss water on my way to a business meeting.It's bad. We're talking about barrels of water with bags of ice in them and crowds of Thais and/or farangs dipping buckets into it to dump on your head, people with garden hoses in front of the restaurants, bars, hotels. Wherever you try to enter or emerge from a taxi, there will be teams of "jokers" with high powered water rifles on your side of the soi, on the other side of the soi, stationed at every gate and walkway ready to drench you many times over before you get to your destination. I live on a relatively quiet, sedate soi near the bar areas and it is impossible to walk 2 minutes in any direction without being soaked head to toe starting around 9:30 AM and ending around 10 PM every official day of Songkran and likely another day on either side of those days.
If you must wear expensive clothing or a suit, I recommend you carry it in a plastic bag and change into those clothes after you arrive wherever you're going. If you can't do that, buy a poncho with a hood that covers at least to your knees, take off your shoes and socks, roll up your pants legs and walk fast past the gangs without stopping. At least one of them will try to lift your poncho and toss a bucket of water up onto your butt and crotch anyway. Forget the idea that it will just be a few kids with water pistols. It is gangs of kids and adults, farang and Thai, armed with whatever it takes to get you and every, single, person walking down the street soaking wet. The only exceptions I have ever seen are very well dressed, very OLD ladies who look like they are on their way to temple. And even they are bound to get their shoes and hair wet from those water rifles over-shooting.
I was wondering how bad it may be in Bangkok. I'd be pretty upset wearing an expensive suit getting drenched by p1 ss water on my way to a business meeting.What will p1 ss you off more than anything are the stupid farangs who participate in Songkran by squirting water directly in to people's faces and generally making themselves look like try-hard fools. Having an exposed mobile phone or camera means nothing to these turds. All of this whilst these gerbils don't have a remote clue what the Songkran festival is all about.
Mr Enternational
02-28-18, 10:02
What will p1 ss you off more than anything are the stupid farangs who participate in Songkran by squirting water directly in to people's faces and generally making themselves look like try-hard fools. Having an exposed mobile phone or camera means nothing to these turds. All of this whilst these gerbils don't have a remote clue what the Songkran festival is all about.It's about happy water.
The only exceptions I have ever seen are very well dressed, very OLD ladies who look like they are on their way to temple. And even they are bound to get their shoes and hair wet from those water rifles over-shooting.Then there's only one solution: disguise yourself as an old lady.
How about the police, military and security guys by the way? Are they targeted as well? Or even joining the 'game'?
What will p1 ss you off more than anything are the stupid farangs who participate in Songkran by squirting water directly in to people's faces Yep, plus they have no quarms squirting water into the face of motorcyclists. You need to be really careful that you do have an out of control bike come flying towards you. Done Song Kran in Thailand and Pi Mai in Laos quite a few times. This year it's golf in Australia.
LittleBigMan
02-28-18, 14:23
I was wondering how bad it may be in Bangkok. I'd be pretty upset wearing an expensive suit getting drenched by p1 ss water on my way to a business meeting.Unless it was life and death and I'm sure there are reasons for holding a business meeting during the main Songkran days of water and had to wear a expensive suit I sure wouldn't be walking. I would be having my driver pick me up and drop me off inside the meeting car 'park in my limo! Anyone walking anywhere in a expensive suit on those days to be honest I would even be temped to toss some water your way.
If I really had to as noted I would carry cover protect my expensive suit, shoes, socks etc.. to the meeting and get dress. I think if I can do this going to W.S. nights I would have the brains to do this for a meeting.
Then there's only one solution: disguise yourself as an old lady.
How about the police, military and security guys by the way? Are they targeted as well? Or even joining the 'game'?You know, I don't remember seeing many police, military or security guys walking the streets then. Maybe a couple here and there. And, yes, they would be an exception to getting soaked by jokers.
I am planning for my second visit to Pattaya in June and wondering whether the rains will play spoilsport. Checked the weather data and June seems to be the start of the rainy season. I am thinking of second or third week of June. Preferably second week before Ramadan ends, not sure whether that makes any difference in terms of crowds.
My last visit was in November and the weather was perfect.
Please let me know if there is any large event coming up in June in Pattaya that one should be aware of. Last time I did not know about the international fleet meet in November and it was a nightmare with road closures and resulted in lot of pain the butt moving around for an entire day. For someone who is there for just a few days it makes a big difference. Thanks folks!
News article on the Yahoo Philippines website.
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/thai-tourism-body-says-opposes-sex-tourism-041610140.html
Ggekko2009
03-03-18, 04:21
I will be passing through Bangkok this May for a few days and plan to check out the nightclubs while I am there. Recommendation or feedback on the ones to avoid is greatly appreciated.
This is my list so far.
- Insanity.
- Levels (Is this the one over at aLoft?
- Mixx.
- GLOW.
- Shock39.
- NARZ.
- Route 66.
I am also hoping to get some intel on the quality and market rate of FL found in these clubs. Thanks.
I am planning for my second visit to Pattaya in June and wondering whether the rains will play spoilsport. Checked the weather data and June seems to be the start of the rainy season. I am thinking of second or third week of June. Preferably second week before Ramadan ends, not sure whether that makes any difference in terms of crowds.
My last visit was in November and the weather was perfect.I've been to Pattaya smack in the middle of June on a couple of occasions. In fact, I had the exact same concern before my first visit in June but when I was there, I quickly realized that, although, it tends to rain often but it comes and goes quite fast. Last year, in fact, there was hardly any rainfall during my 4 days in Pattaya in June. In any case, from what I have experienced, it doesn't rain cats and dogs and shouldn't put a dampener on any plans. Cheers!
I've been to Pattaya smack in the middle of June on a couple of occasions. In fact, I had the exact same concern before my first visit in June but when I was there, I quickly realized that, although, it tends to rain often but it comes and goes quite fast. Last year, in fact, there was hardly any rainfall during my 4 days in Pattaya in June. In any case, from what I have experienced, it doesn't rain cats and dogs and shouldn't put a dampener on any plans. Cheers!Thanks much Anon Mous. But now my wing man has shifted the dates by a month to July. Looks like we are taking a big risk but will consider it part of the experience.
Thanks much Anon Mous. But now my wing man has shifted the dates by a month to July. Looks like we are taking a big risk but will consider it part of the experience.I was in Bangkok and Pattaya in July last year. There were heavy showers, almost daily, that lasted for over an hour and flooded the streets. Often accompanied with strong wind. Sometimes it was raining for several hours but never all day long.
Always take an umbrella with you (even though it won't keep you entirely dry most of the time) and don't wear your best shoes. And try to keep your valuables somewhere safe and dry.
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me. I saw a blog where the guy said never go with a FL because of the lack of testing. He went on to say that the bars test their girls often. Any insight on this is welcome! Thanks, BR.
Gigi Buffon
03-07-18, 23:30
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me. I saw a blog where the guy said never go with a FL because of the lack of testing. He went on to say that the bars test their girls often. Any insight on this is welcome! Thanks, BR.Some escort agencies do STD testing and like to keep it updated. For example, My Thai Tour Guide even post the date of the latest STD test on each girl info page. I know other do regular testing but do not publish the date of last report, but you can ask agency for this info when booking. I am not as familiar with go-go bars, but some senior members can share their experience.
Crocodilexp
03-08-18, 05:08
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me.Wear a condom of the right size, use enough lube, wash up afterwards. That's the best you can do.
All the bullshit you hear about testing is virtually irrelevant -- some of the girls do 4 guys a day, and a monthly test means roughly nothing, as she could have easily been with 50 guys between the test and you. Knowing Thailand, I imagine "testing" often involves paying a clinic to sign and stamp a piece of paper, without as much as a look the patient's direction. My Thai driving license medical checkup went like that.
I think freelancers are just as (un) safe as any other category of girls. People like to be reassured about their choices, even with zero real evidence, especially if they engage in unsafe sex, so they tend to spew unsubstantiated claims.
Note that while condoms are effective, they won't protect you against a few things, most notable of which is HPV (genital warts).
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me. I saw a blog where the guy said never go with a FL because of the lack of testing. He went on to say that the bars test their girls often. Any insight on this is welcome! Thanks, BR.1. Don't get drunk.
2. Avoid DFK and DATY.
3. Avoid barebacking.
4. Take a shower right after sex and do not sleep through the night without a good wash unless you want genital warts.
5. Take a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) after sex if you get BBBJ.
6. Getting circumcised helps a lot. I had mine when I was 30 just because I enjoy BBBJs that much.
7. Read # 1 again.
Some of my friends say I may as well jerk off rather than avoid kissing and DATY. But they are the ones shitting their pants every time they get a blister or a sore or fever.
They also feel endless guilt for having intimate sex with their wives because they just aren't sure they are clean.
Play it safe. The peace of mind that comes with safe sex is priceless especially when you are not a loner!
Wear a condom of the right size, use enough lube, wash up afterwards. That's the best you can do. ..... (genital warts).My Badoo girl get angry why I get wash afterwards every time I do. In this case I use a special antibiotic soap what I always carry for my genital wash (not a guaranteed things but will help). But careful about the soap water or foam not to enter inside your tool's door, very much uncomfortable if you get the inflammation.
Crocodilexp
03-09-18, 05:47
But careful about the soap water or foam not to enter inside your tool's door, very much uncomfortable if you get the inflammation.Something I try to do is to drink some water beforehand and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) during the after-sex wash up (after rinsing first). Not sure how much it helps, but I assume it does. As for antibacterial soap, it's fine, but there's no strong evidence that it's better at reducing bacteria in real-world use than regular soap (FDA recently dealt with this).
My Badoo girl get angry why I get wash afterwards every time I do. In this case I use a special antibiotic soap what I always carry for my genital wash (not a guaranteed things but will help). But careful about the soap water or foam not to enter inside your tool's door, very much uncomfortable if you get the inflammation.Anti-biotic soap? That probably has limited benefits against bacteria (I am not too sure), and zero benefits against viruses. If soap is alkaline, it is not good for your dick, due to yeast / fungal infections thriving on Alkaline. A mildly acidic wash (pH < 7) is best and no danger of inflammation although I never tried to get it to go in the hole. LOL.
I don't like to use cake of soaps at all, but smoother gels or liquids. I use a low pH wash on my dick. Important to protect against yeast infections in sticky climate. I don't wear undies around the house, loose shorts only, as plenty of air is good for those parts.
Genital warts is from Human Papilloma Virus (many different strains). I am guessing condoms and any type of washing could help but not be a guarantee, even if it is not easy to catch. There are always some risks. I don't have any genital warts to my knowledge. I guess this comes from having very limited BB partners, most likely. Most people will have had a wart or papilloma somewhere on their body. They can be burnt off with liquid nitrogen.
I don't see it as a big deal unless you are a girl with lots of warts inside the pussy, which makes fucking her uncomfortable due to hard lumpy nature. Its not enjoyable to DATY a girl with warts in the outer region either, I know that from experience. So best get warts removed if possible.
Picking up the virus from another is no where near as easy as some other STDs, I believe. If get to my age having avoided genital warts and Herpes, I think it unlikely that there is a big risk coming. I still use very thin Japanese condoms for mongering more for fear of catching the very highly transmittable diseases, from very suspect unsafe girls.
.......... I still use very thin Japanese condoms for mongering more for fear of catching the very highly transmittable diseases, from very suspect unsafe girls.Condom is must even the girl comes from dating sites, regardless pro or non pro. Generally I always check and try well beforehand going for DATY and Listerine afterwards.
Happy hunting.
Some of my friends say I may as well jerk off rather than avoid kissing and DATY. But they are the ones shitting their pants every time they get a blister or a sore or fever.I'm kissing and DATY'ing the girls for almost 15 years now and I've never catched a blister, sore or fever. Maybe a cold occasionally, but that's all.
I could go without kissing but I could certainly not go without DATY. I just love it too much and the girls too. And I hardly ever need lube which makes their pussies too 'slippery' anyway, certainly in combination with condoms.
Anti-biotic soap? That probably has limited benefits against bacteria (I am not too sure), and zero benefits against viruses. If soap is alkaline, it is not good for your dick, due to yeast / fungal infections thriving on Alkaline. A mildly acidic wash (pH < 7) is best and no danger of inflammation although I never tried to get it to go in the hole. LOL.
I concur. I'm not an expert but I think all this washing with soap only makes your dick more vulnerable for diseases. A lot of people are 'too clean' because they use too much soap which reduces the resistance of the skin against bacteria, viruses, yeast, fungal, etc.
FormulaOneFan
03-09-18, 08:12
I concur. I'm not an expert but I think all this washing with soap only makes your dick more vulnerable for diseases. A lot of people are 'too clean' because they use too much soap which reduces the resistance of the skin against bacteria, viruses, yeast, fungal, etc.I'm a scientist (no joke) and YES, antibacterial soaps are not all they're cracked up to be. Sure, they have some effectiveness, but long term usage by an individual, and at a community health level they are actually responsible for the increasing prevalence of antibiotic resistant strains. And nope, they do nothing to protect against viruses, so if you're worried about HPV related genital warts or HIV, they don't add any value other than being 'soap'.
As for the alkalinity / pH of the soap you use, that's a really complicated topic that has as much to do with your own personal genetics and your 'microbiome' - we all live with a population of 'bug' cells in and on our bodies that comprise as many up to many times the number of human cells that make up our bodies. Everyone's composition is different, and depending on the ecosystem you live with, the pH consideration can be different for everyone.
Never thought my professional life would intersect with my mongering!
FormulaOneFan
03-09-18, 08:19
I'm kissing and DATY'ing the girls for almost 15 years now and I've never catched a blister, sore or fever. Maybe a cold occasionally, but that's all.
I could go without kissing but I could certainly not go without DATY. I just love it too much and the girls too. And I hardly ever need lube which makes their pussies too 'slippery' anyway, certainly in combination with condoms.Totally agree. I'll forgo kissing but if I can't do some DATY, I consider the time a dud. Nothing better than a naturally lubed pussy! I also find that if you give a little and the girl actually lets herself enjoy the time together, she's much more comfortable and the sex is better. I don't have any regulars (anymore) in Thailand, but from my FKK experience in Germany I have a good selection of girls that I know are good performers and who actually look forward to my oral skills. One girl just a week ago at Oase in Frankfurt commented "Oh, I was so happy when I saw you because I was looking forward to this!
Hi guys,
I just want to share some tips in regards to your phone when you are home and you have a partner. There is nothing worse then when your partner, for whatever reason uses your phone and something discriminating appears on your screen. I use my computer at work for Thai Friendly, Badoo and any other hook up sites and also for ISG. My wife will use Whatsapp for messaging and international calls so I never use it for P4 P. I never use my phone number for a contact or my work or private email choosing to use a email account under my nom de guerre.
Choose to disable alerts of any apps you use for P4P contacts and I will generally have my phone on silent when I'm home most of the time just in case of a random call from Line as it has a very distinctive ringtone. I will block a contact if she phones to much as I am not after a GF but NSA sex. With my Line icon I keep it hidden in a folder on my phone with all the useless crap like Home, Health, Compass etc which then has 3 pages and Line is on the last page. I have a pass code with a very random combination that my wife will not guess in a thousand years and my explanation for having the app will be that a friend downloaded for me when I got my first IPhone and I have forgotten that I even have it.
If you take pics email them immediately to your safe email and delete immediately. Check your messages and email regularly for any discriminating messages even some like from trip advisor suggesting hotels in Pattaya. My wingman laughs at the trouble I go to but he is single and hasn't anything to lose. I live by the motto "poor planning = poor performance".
I hope some of you guys find this useful and saves you from being caught out and if anyone can add to this please do. A good friend of mine got busted recently by his partner and I don't want to see anyone else get put in the same situation.
Thanks Rob.
Steve 9696
03-11-18, 23:25
Hi Guys.
I just want to share some tips in regards to your phone when you are home and you have a partner. There is nothing worse then when your partner, for whatever reason uses your phone and something discriminating appears on your screen. I use my computer at work for Thai Friendly, Badoo and any other hook up sites and also for ISG. My wife will use Whatsapp for messaging and international calls so I never use it for P4 P. I never use my phone number for a contact or my work or private email choosing to use a Gmail account under my nom de guerre.
Choose to disable alerts of any apps you use for P4 P contacts and I will generally have my phone on silent when I'm home most of the time just in case of a random call from Line as it has a very distinctive ringtone. I will block a contact if she phones to much as I am not after a GF but NSA sex. With my Line icon I keep it hidden in a folder on my phone with all the useless crap like Home, Health, Compass etc which then has 3 pages and Line is on the last page. I have a pass code with a very random combination that my wife will not guess in a thousand years and my explanation for having the app will be that a friend downloaded for me when I got my first IPhone and I have forgotten that I even have it..Really good advice. I would also recommend having a second phone that you only keep at work. I keep mine in the desk drawer under some other stuff. When I travel I take out the battery and put phone and battery at very bottom of backpack under tons of other crap. This really keeps thing separate. Deadly if she finds it but only one thing to hide very carefully.
Steve 9696
03-11-18, 23:55
Hi Guys.
I just want to share some tips in regards to your phone when you are home and you have a partner. There is nothing worse then when your partner, for whatever reason uses your phone and something discriminating appears on your screen. I use my computer at work for Thai Friendly, Badoo and any other hook up sites and also for ISG. My wife will use Whatsapp for messaging and international calls so I never use it for P4P. I never use my phone number for a contact or my work or private email choosing to use a email account under my nom de guerre.
Choose to disable alerts of any apps you use for P4 P contacts and I will generally have my phone on silent when I'm home most of the time just in case of a random call from Line as it has a very distinctive ringtone. I will block a contact if she phones to much as I am not after a GF but NSA sex. With my Line icon I keep it hidden in a folder on my phone with all the useless crap like Home, Health, Compass etc which then has 3 pages and Line is on the last page. I have a pass code with a very random combination that my wife will not guess in a thousand years and my explanation for having the app will be that a friend downloaded for me when I got my first IPhone and I have forgotten that I even have it..Really good advice. I would also recommend having a second phone that you only keep at work. I keep mine in the desk drawer under some other stuff. When I travel I take out the battery and put phone and battery at very bottom of backpack under tons of other crap. This really keeps thing separate. Deadly if she finds it but only one thing to hide very carefully.
IMHO, I would add three points. Set the phone not to back up images to the cloud.
Two. Use a rooted Android phone and hide the apps you don't want seen. You can have a hidden gallery too. Many additional security apps.
Three. Get a second Android phone or one than can handle 2 SIMs. Set the phone to "self destruct" erase under certain conditions.
I just want to share some tips in regards to your phone when you are home and you have a partner.
I have a pass code with a very random combination that my wife will not guess in a thousand years and my explanation for having the app will be that a friend downloaded for me when I got my first IPhone and I have forgotten that I even have it.
If you take pics email them immediately to your safe email and delete immediately.
If you have a recent Android phone, use secure folder. You can take pics from there with the phone and they remain inside.
Thanks for all the input. Realistically after my first experience in Pattaya the need for contacts is minimal but as hunters I think we are all in the chase.
Rob.
Arthur Bishop
03-13-18, 03:00
IMHO, I would add three points. Set the phone not to back up images to the cloud.
Two. Use a rooted Android phone and hide the apps you don't want seen. You can have a hidden gallery too. Many additional security apps.
Three. Get a second Android phone or one than can handle 2 SIMs. Set the phone to "self destruct" erase under certain conditions.Good suggestions. How do you set up the phone content or software to self-destruct or erase other than disabling it after locking it because of failure to input right password? Is there an option available to most smartphones to do this?
KangarooTed
03-13-18, 09:04
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me. I saw a blog where the guy said never go with a FL because of the lack of testing. He went on to say that the bars test their girls often. Any insight on this is welcome! Thanks, BR.Yes, the majority have a testing 'regime'.
And some of them actually conduct legitimate testing.
Google is your friend. There are wrinkles in the feature.
Good suggestions. How do you set up the phone content or software to self-destruct or erase other than disabling it after locking it because of failure to input right password? Is there an option available to most smartphones to do this?.
Etaoin2003
03-13-18, 22:56
I use my computer at work for Thai Friendly, Badoo and any other hook up sites and also for ISG.
Unless you're self-employed, this is a really, really, really bad idea. Assume that your employer has full access to everything. Even if you're using a web browser in incognito mode, if it's on the company network, it's not private.
Hi Guys.
Probably a stupid question but I'm asking anyhow, I am going to Pattaya again in May but my wife thinks I will be in another Australian City for a conference. Of course she will want to talk to me occasionally on the phone so I am thinking of not getting a local SIM but using my phone with the Australian carrier. Will my ID show as an overseas number since I will be technically using a foreign carrier? I am sure it will just be my ID in her phone but I want to be 100% sure. I have started to call her locally using whatsapp so that in 2 months time she won't be suspicious of me using it all of a sudden when I'm out of town.
Thanks Rob.
Ggekko2009
03-20-18, 02:15
Hi Guys.
Probably a stupid question but I'm asking anyhow, I am going to Pattaya again in May but my wife thinks I will be in another Australian City for a conference. Of course she will want to talk to me occasionally on the phone so I am thinking of not getting a local SIM but using my phone with the Australian carrier. Will my ID show as an overseas number since I will be technically using a foreign carrier? I am sure it will just be my ID in her phone but I want to be 100% sure. I have started to call her locally using whatsapp so that in 2 months time she won't be suspicious of me using it all of a sudden when I'm out of town.
Thanks Rob.I don't know much about Australian carrier, but I assume they pretty much function similarly. I am on US carrier, and never bother to get local SIM since my phone plan already includes unlimited overseas data and calls to the US are reasonable cheap. When I make calls to the US from overseas, the recipient only sees my original caller ID. I think you should be more concerned about getting your stories lined up from time zone to weather to background noise, LOL.
Pretty sure your regular number will show on her screen, no matter where you are dialing from. But good thinking softening her up with WA bebfore you travel, that's some planning!
Make sure you internalize the time zone differences and can explain the gap between her missed call to you and your return call!
Hi Guys.
Probably a stupid question but I'm asking anyhow, I am going to Pattaya again in May but my wife thinks I will be in another Australian City for a conference. Of course she will want to talk to me occasionally on the phone so I am thinking of not getting a local SIM but using my phone with the Australian carrier. Will my ID show as an overseas number since I will be technically using a foreign carrier? I am sure it will just be my ID in her phone but I want to be 100% sure. I have started to call her locally using whatsapp so that in 2 months time she won't be suspicious of me using it all of a sudden when I'm out of town.
Thanks Rob.
If you fear catching something, wear a raincoat! Carry your own from home (Thai condoms are fine and available everywhere, but can be tight and thicker than top shelf ones), and the more variety of sampling you do, the more often you should wear one!
I always cover up for FS, but rarely for oral. Knock on wood, so far, so good! YMMV, obviously.
I wouldn't rely on the the girls claim to have been tested regularly, although the more premium the provider, the more likely I suppose.
I don't know much about Australian carrier, but I assume they pretty much function similarly. I am on US carrier, and never bother to get local SIM since my phone plan already includes unlimited overseas data and calls to the US are reasonable cheap. When I make calls to the US from overseas, the recipient only sees my original caller ID. I think you should be more concerned about getting your stories lined up from time zone to weather to background noise, LOL.
I'm considering a trip to BKK, but the stigma of STDs there concerns me. I saw a blog where the guy said never go with a FL because of the lack of testing. He went on to say that the bars test their girls often. Any insight on this is welcome! Thanks, BR.
Thanks for your responses. I thought as much regarding the phone number and don't worry I am all-over time zones etc. It will be a 3 hour behind time difference and that's easy to cover and her employment commerce's at 6. 30 am so she knows I won't answer the phone then. I travel a bit for business and she knows not to call thru business hours and that at nights I am usually tied up. It's really just for those 5 minute how are you, love you calls. The more I think about it the more I will stick to the WA idea as it won't show up on any bills, not that she is interested in them, and won't cost me anything.
Thanks rob.
Thanks for your responses. I<SNIP>
The more I think about it the more I will stick to the WA idea as it won't show up on any bills, not that she is interested in them, and won't cost me anything.
The best laid plans of mice and men. LOL.
It's a high risk adventure Rob. You have to assume nothing will go wrong too. I recall how a mate of mine on the same sort of trip stepped off a curb and broke his ankle. Innocent enough accident but it got complicated to fix in a hospital and he needed all his international health care cards etc and it turned out to be impossible to hide from his other half.
Whats App is your best bet through wifi only, because calls listed on the cellular phone records are detailed and will show the foreign carrier when you hook into the normal Thai system.
I don't know much about Australian carrier, but I assume they pretty much function similarly. I am on US carrier, and never bother to get local SIM since my phone plan already includes unlimited overseas data and calls to the US are reasonable cheap. When I make calls to the US from overseas, the recipient only sees my original caller ID. I think you should be more concerned about getting your stories lined up from time zone to weather to background noise, LOL.Don't underestimate the "ring tone".
Some countries have different ones from other countries.
Cross check the Australian one with the Thai one, just to make sure you don't slip on a banana.
MichaelSamuel
03-21-18, 01:50
Only a crazy thai girl would pick that up.
Another thing to do. If you happen to be in that city at all. Take pics. I have whole store of pics from HK, macao, singapore, ect I can use if whatever thai or other GF asks. Especially ones in hotel rooms so you can say "no, in room alone, see".
Don't underestimate the "ring tone".
Some countries have different ones from other countries.
Cross check the Australian one with the Thai one, just to make sure you don't slip on a banana.
Mr Enternational
03-21-18, 02:49
Only a crazy thai girl would pick that up.
Another thing to do. If you happen to be in that city at all. Take pics. I have whole store of pics from HK, macao, singapore, ect I can use if whatever thai or other GF asks. Especially ones in hotel rooms so you can say "no, in room alone, see".And how do you pull that off with a video call? This is 2018 and you are running with 2007 game.
Thanks for all the feedback. When I was there in February and she knew I was in Pattaya all she wanted to do was video calls! To check out the room maybe who knows? I do travel a lot for work domestically and she never wants to video call then! Hotel rooms are hotel rooms and look the same unless you stay at the Penthouse like I did in February! So that was an issue. Since posting I have only used WA with her and no questions! So I think that is the plan. I hope I don't fall off a gutter Redkilt LOL but you are spot on about things going wrong but it's all part of the hunt and the excitement. 5 days in total so if I do suffer any injury other raw dick and empty balls I think I will try to carry until back on home ground but I am pretty cautious when I'm overseas.
The other thing is wedding rings? I didn't wear it in February but there was a "scar". I'm thinking of just keeping it on this trip because I'm sure as long as you are paying they couldn't care if you are married or not?
Flights and hotel booked for May 27 to 1 June.
Thanks Rob.
Hey Guys,
Quick question please. Where can I get Original Cialis in BKK? I don't mind if it's expensive, I want the original stuff and not the fake stuff you can also find. If anyone can share the name / location of any Pharmacy in the Sukhumvit area that sells the original version, please let me know.
Thanks!
Cheers,
BR.
MichaelSamuel
03-21-18, 22:17
Ah, had to plan and execute that recently. Only while in bed, and remove photos or other very distinctive wall hangings. And the monogrammed bathroab and such. Then only at night while in bed and with low light saying your tired. Granted if she pushes you are probably already in trouble. Of course the difficulty was that I wasn't alone at night most of the time in bed, hahaha.
And how do you pull that off with a video call? This is 2018 and you are running with 2007 game.
MichaelSamuel
03-21-18, 22:19
My go to for anything is the pharmacy on the south side of suk just past the soi 4 gas station to the west. Been buying various things there for years with never an issue and price is fair.
Hey Guys,
Quick question please. Where can I get Original Cialis in BKK? I don't mind if it's expensive, I want the original stuff and not the fake stuff you can also find. If anyone can share the name / location of any Pharmacy in the Sukhumvit area that sells the original version, please let me know.
Thanks!
Cheers,
BR.
Ah, had to plan and execute that recently. Only while in bed, and remove photos or other very distinctive wall hangings. And the monogrammed bathroab and such. Then only at night while in bed and with low light saying your tired. Granted if she pushes you are probably already in trouble. Of course the difficulty was that I wasn't alone at night most of the time in bed, hahaha.The problem I had was that I was staying at the Penthouse Hotel and you are not familiar with the Hotel go to their website and you can see why I didn't want to make video calls from there. Once I was in Bangkok it was a different story as the room was normal. Time difference is my friend because calling Australia for 7 pm makes it 3 pm and I usually had my morning / lunch girl away and before I went for the afternoon / evening girl LOL.
That's the last thing to worry about. Except maybe losing it!
A WG will play with it on your finger and ask if you have kids. Sometimes it will make the daliance a little more intimate, but at the end of the day she is with you for the money, not to be your next wife.
Thanks for all the feedback. When I was there in February and she knew I was in Pattaya all she wanted to do was video calls! To check out the room maybe who knows? I do travel a lot for work domestically and she never wants to video call then! Hotel rooms are hotel rooms and look the same unless you stay at the Penthouse like I did in February! So that was an issue. Since posting I have only used WA with her and no questions! So I think that is the plan. I hope I don't fall off a gutter Redkilt LOL but you are spot on about things going wrong but it's all part of the hunt and the excitement. 5 days in total so if I do suffer any injury other raw dick and empty balls I think I will try to carry until back on home ground but I am pretty cautious when I'm overseas.
The other thing is wedding rings? I didn't wear it in February but there was a "scar". I'm thinking of just keeping it on this trip because I'm sure as long as you are paying they couldn't care if you are married or not?
Flights and hotel booked for May 27 to 1 June.
Thanks Rob.
That's the last thing to worry about. Except maybe losing it!
A WG will play with it on your finger and ask if you have kids. Sometimes it will make the daliance a little more intimate, but at the end of the day she is with you for the money, not to be your next wife.Funny you should mention that they will play with it! Some of the girls were running their fingers around where white mark is from wearing the ring asking coyly "what is this?" Hahaha.
The problem I had was that I was staying at the Penthouse Hotel and you are not familiar with the Hotel go to their website and you can see why I didn't want to make video calls from there. Once I was in Bangkok it was a different story as the room was normal. Time difference is my friend because calling Australia for 7 pm makes it 3 pm and I usually had my morning / lunch girl away and before I went for the afternoon / evening girl LOL.So don't stay in a Suspect Hotel. No man can be in Pattaya and not suspected of playing up, BTW.
My GF once believed I was in Chiang Mai without her, when I was actually out of Thailand. LOL Girls get very suspicious.
If you are not wear you are supposed to be, you cannot safely answer a phone, as even background sounds can give away that you are not where you say you are, and that is even without video. Video calls have destroyed ability to be anywhere on the sly, other than briefly when you can claim no signal or flat battery. It is wise to have a separate phone and phone number for mongering things, locked up. Preferably small so can be hidden away when necessary.
Fortunately I have always had multiple phone numbers for different countries so additional phone handsets does not create much suspicion by itself. I always had spare phones too.
Girls will investigate your bags, so when she finds Viagra condoms, she might want to know what is going on.
My biggest problem causing suspicion was special lube for sex. How come a large quantity just disappeared? I realised that my supply for mongering had to be hidden away and not found.
My one and only time at the Penthouse for obvious reasons LOL. The video call thing blindsided me as when I am away locally she never wants to video call so maybe a little suspicion involved. She is well versed when she knows I am away for work functions and knows that I can call only at certain times and usually from my room where I can control the time and the environment. I am not worried about any girls finding condoms, Viagra or lube as I don't use any at home and buy them just before I leave the country and leave in the hotel when I book out. My conditioning her with WA calls is working fine and she hasn't asked why all of a sudden I'm using the app! She uses it all time with her friends so probably is unaware of my sudden use.
Thanks again for all the feedback and I will fill in a report when I return or discuss my pending divorce, LOL, if my plan backfires.
Rob.
Some countries have different ones from other countries. Also don't forget that you will be on a foreign carrier so if your phone is off when someone rings it they will get a Thai greeting saying the phone is off, not an Australian one.
Also don't forget that you will be on a foreign carrier so if your phone is off when someone rings it they will get a Thai greeting saying the phone is off, not an Australian one.Didn't think of that! But I never turn my phone off but I will have it run on silent but a good tip. She has been known not to speak to me for several days if we have an argument so I may [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off the morning I leave LOL.
Didn't think of that! But I never turn my phone off but I will have it run on silent but a good tip. LOL.It might still be off if you are in an uncovered area.
Best strategy is to call first and prevent phone calls in areas where background noise is revealing.
I was once in a sea shore and officially the sea shouldn't be were I was. So add to move quickly away from the wave noise.
In addition the young daughter of a friend of mine started to call my name from far to join the group.
And my name is not as popular as John.
Seconds of panic. Survived.
It might still be off if you are in an uncovered area.
Best strategy is to call first and prevent phone calls in areas where background noise is revealing.
I was once in a sea shore and officially the sea shouldn't be were I was. So add to move quickly away from the wave noise.
In addition the young daughter of a friend of mine started to call my name from far to join the group.
And my name is not as popular as John.
Seconds of panic. Survived.Good advice. I have no plan of leaving Pattaya and the coverage is pretty good there. She is calling me locally on whatsapp now so my grooming is working! I usually initiate calls when I'm away for business as she doesn't know when I'm busy or not and she knows the taboo of calls thru meetings. I just have to make sure that there is a good morning message in the morning when she is at work and a call or missed call atleast between 6 pm and 8 pm.
I just have to make sure that there is a good morning message in the morning when she is at work and a call or missed call atleast between 6 pm and 8 pm.RJ.
All this pre-planning activity almost guarantees that something will go pear-shaped somewhere along the line.
I hope you are not so paranoid thinking about what can go wrong that you forget to have a good time and to make it all worth the painful drama.
RJ.
All this pre-planning activity almost guarantees that something will go pear-shaped somewhere along the line.
I hope you are not so paranoid thinking about what can go wrong that you forget to have a good time and to make it all worth the painful drama.Nah mate all good. My 5th international trip on the sly and 2 to 3 domestic excursions a year and I follow same schedule as when I'm travelling for work so nothing new for her for me to be away. I am very pragmatic and if I have a mishap so be it, I won't lose any sleep if I am caught and end up being single again.
Breaking News is that Uber in Thailand has been taken over by Taxi Grab. Just a rumour I heard without looking in to it. I never used Uber so no effect on me. I like All Thai taxis.
Banana Boi
03-26-18, 18:08
I like All Thai taxis.Bangkok is not the problem. The majority of taxi drivers will run a meter. In pattaya almost all refuse to run a meter even though the law says it is required. It will cost a minimum of 200 baht even if your trip is only a half km.
I like All Thai taxis.How about the one where the taxi driver killed an American with a machete?
Breaking News is that Uber in Thailand has been taken over by Taxi Grab. Just a rumour I heard without looking in to it. I never used Uber so no effect on me. I like All Thai taxis.Good that you never used it. I tried using Grab once, in vain, to get from one of the malls, I think it was Central World, to Fraser Suites. I must have waited for, at least, 30 minutes or so for a car that never arrived, despite it being ever so close. Of course, when I called the driver, we both were quite adept in failing to understand each other. Ultimately, canceled and took the skytrain, which was far more efficient. On another occasion, with equal futility, tried getting a Grab car to Grande Centre Point Terminal 21. I think there is a huge language barrier and explaining your precise location to the non-English speaking drivers, who are en route and trying to navigate the crazy traffic, can be, to put it lightly, a challenge. I have used Grab extensively in Singapore, works like a charm. The car used to arrive in the time it used to take me to get from my hotel room to the lobby, 2-3 minutes max. In Bkk, 100-200 THB flat rates suit me the best, especially when you can negotiate this rate for even, somewhat, long distances.
How about the one where the taxi driver killed an American with a machete?The American was an expat who had lived here for several years and spoke fluent Thai. He was arguing about a 50 baht fare and threw hot coffee on the driver. He should have know better and they both ultimately paid a heavy price.
Good that you never used it. I tried using Grab once, in vain, to get from one of the malls, I think it was Central World, to Fraser Suites. I must have waited for, at least, 30 minutes or so for a car that never arrived, despite it being ever so close. Of course, when I called the driver, we both were quite adept in failing to understand each other.I try to use Grab in Pattaya but it is not easy. Drivers are terrorised by what they call the taxi mafia. I suspect taxis to post lurking cars at strategic points. I also suspect taxis to infiltrate Grab in order to frustrate clients, for quite a few of times I've had cars being "4 minutes away" but neither coming any closer nor canceling.
And of course, communication is abysmal. What doesn't help is that I have scant knowledge of the car makes here in Thailand. They're all Toyota or Nissan something but that doesn't get me very far. What I hate most is when a driver phones me because I'm guaranteed to understand nothing. The other day a driver had been going on unintelligibly on the phone so I thought I might at least try to get the colour of the car right. I had him repeat 3 times the colour and still could not relate his vocalisation to any colour known to man.
The last straw was yesterday when the app failed to translate the written messages.
Crazy4Thai
03-27-18, 04:57
I have used Grab successfully in Pattaya 3 for 3. The last time the driver texted me requesting that I move 50 meters up a side soi so he would not be spotted. He claims the mafia actually reports him to police and then he has to appear and prove that all is in order. But good for me as the fare is always just 120 or so baht instead of 200.
Tony Hoeprano
03-27-18, 06:21
I have used Grab successfully in Pattaya 3 for 3. The last time the driver texted me requesting that I move 50 meters up a side soi so he would not be spotted. He claims the mafia actually reports him to police and then he has to appear and prove that all is in order. But good for me as the fare is always just 120 or so baht instead of 200.I've never had problems using Grab in Pattaya or BKK. IMO, Grab is better in Pattaya than BKK where just using a regular taxi is easy to find and just as cheap. And I always take advantage of the promo codes that come more often than not.
How about the one where the taxi driver killed an American with a machete?I googled that. Report showed a pink Taxi. I should have put "All Thai" in quotes. That is not the "All Thai" company which uses dark yellow Toyota Prius and sports a map of Thailand on the front doors. Taxi Drivers are under constant video surveillance. They are employees. If behave badly can get sacked.
I have not used Grab enough to comment on them.
Just today, I had a problem with a taxi driver (hailed the taxi), so I cancelled, got out and continued on BTS. He had taken me the complete wrong way, where I had asked him to go on the expressway at Sathorn and specified where to exit it. He did not do that. Claimed to have a better way. He wanted to take me to Sukhumvit Asoke intersection (which I discovered slightly too late) which was no where near a direct route for my destination, and heading into sukumvit traffic jams. I learn my lesson. In future I will always ask the route the driver intends to make sure he knows how to get there. If not, I can use Google Maps to give him precise directions. I guess these problems would not occur with Grab, most likely. Was just a dumb driver who claimed to lack knowledge (which could have been total bullshit). To make matters worse his Thai diction was bad.
Can anyone confirm that Grab drivers always use sensible routes, or requested routes? Do they use computer/smart phone to determine the best route? My question does not relate to Pattaya. More so to Grab in Thailand in general.
I need new Specs. Small shops not part of the Top Charoen chain, seem to be a lot cheaper. Last time I used one of these family run shops I was satisfied with the result, so will be interesting to see this time. I am getting one pair from independent cheap shop and another for just over twice the price, at a Top Charoen shop (not in touristy area) offering "50% discount" (the shop only opened a very short time in new shopping complex) on everything. LOL Ha ha, only the final price matters. The frame at Top Charoen maybe slightly higher quality. Will be interesting to see if there any significant difference, and is it really worth paying more, other than having a bigger range of frames to choose from. I have ordered bi-focals with auto darkening adjustment for outside bright conditions.
Top Charoen in Sukhumvit Soi 23 seemed to be extra very expensive so did not use it. Prices in non-tourist areas seemed a lot better.
LittleBigMan
03-27-18, 12:07
I need new Specs. Small shops not part of the Top Charoen chain, seem to be a lot cheaper. Last time I used one of these family run shops I was satisfied with the result, so will be interesting to see this time. I am getting one pair from independent cheap shop and another for just over twice the price, at a Top Charoen shop (not in touristy area) offering "50% discount" (the shop only opened a very short time in new shopping complex) on everything. LOL Ha ha, only the final price matters. The frame at Top Charoen maybe slightly higher quality. Will be interesting to see if there any significant difference, and is it really worth paying more, other than having a bigger range of frames to choose from. I have ordered bi-focals with auto darkening adjustment for outside bright conditions.
Top Charoen in Sukhumvit Soi 23 seemed to be extra very expensive so did not use it. Prices in non-tourist areas seemed a lot better.Top Charoen, as you know is a chain, also Beautiful Optic belongs to them. I haven't use them for years and the reason they are a rip off. I did before I knew better when I did I use to go in their stores and look at frames since my son when small end up breaking them. I'm one of those guys that when free time exist I go to shops to look and check out prices and majority of the time when they have a offer they raise their prices and them make it look like a discount. I noticed their sunglasses Ray-ban etc in particular 2-1 sale they raise the prices to near double and if you know the prices will know even 2-1 you aren't getting much.
As for regular glasses, this is what I've found in their frames and their so call guarantee like pulling teeth to get them to honor it. Once the small screw came loose to hold the lense took it back said I had to get a new frame etc etc. Then the workmanship depending on your location I noticed was poor, my son transition lense are of poor quality and after a year they seem to break apart.
Their promotions are as bad as the G-Shock watches places. I say avoid if possible.
Their promotions are as bad as the G-Shock watches places. I say avoid if possible.Just to be clear, you are saying avoid Top Charoen, right? I agree their prices are too high. Can get cheaper in home country.
Are there any specs shops you recommend, or are you saying just don't get them in Thailand at all?
Breaking News is that Uber in Thailand has been taken over by Taxi Grab. Just a rumour I heard without looking in to it. I never used Uber so no effect on me. I like All Thai taxis.Uber has been taken over by Grab in 8 countries in SE Asia.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/25/technology/uber-grab-deal-southeast-asia/index.html
LittleBigMan
03-28-18, 19:01
Just to be clear, you are saying avoid Top Charoen, right? I agree their prices are too high. Can get cheaper in home country.
Are there any specs shops you recommend, or are you saying just don't get them in Thailand at all?I think you are right to be looking for a smaller shop than a chain. But when it comes to eyes I find small or large tough to find a real good Doctor or technician? You can usually see when they do the eye examine and ask them question as to where the lens are made etc etc. If you notice the more question you ask the more silent they get I run!
Sorry I live in Pattaya and I've been using a small shop for my son for the last ten years called EuroOptics, The eye examined is very good and they back up their work they are located on 2nd Road, opposite the Royal Garden.
I think you are right to be looking for a smaller shop than a chain. But when it comes to eyes I find small or large tough to find a real good Doctor or technician? You can usually see when they do the eye examine and ask them question as to where the lens are made etc etc. If you notice the more question you ask the more silent they get I run!
Sorry I live in Pattaya and I've been using a small shop for my son for the last ten years called EuroOptics, The eye examined is very good and they back up their work they are located on 2nd Road, opposite the Royal Garden.I got first pair of metal rim bifocal auto darkening lenses for 2500 Baht from a very small shop with perhaps overly limited imaginary discounts, and potentially vastly higher. They seem to be fine to suit my needs. Around the price of an Oily visit.
I don't want to pay too much since I could drop and smash them or sit on them accidentally etc.
I think you are right to be looking for a smaller shop than a chain. But when it comes to eyes I find small or large tough to find a real good Doctor or technician? You can usually see when they do the eye examine and ask them question as to where the lens are made etc etc. If you notice the more question you ask the more silent they get I run!
Sorry I live in Pattaya and I've been using a small shop for my son for the last ten years called EuroOptics, The eye examined is very good and they back up their work they are located on 2nd Road, opposite the Royal Garden.I got first pair of metal rim bifocal auto darkening lenses for 2500 Baht from a very small shop with limited range of rims. They seem to be fine to suit my needs. Around the price of an Oily visit. The price for similar at Top Charoen, with imaginary discounts of 50%, was still close to 5000 Baht, and the wait time is longer (done in the factory). Vastly more expensive stuff is also available in Top Charoen and I expect prices are high in the touristy areas. I heard that Top Charoen also owns another chain, so most specs shops are going to be of that chain.
I don't want to pay too much since I could drop and smash them or sit on them accidentally etc.
LittleBigMan
03-29-18, 12:33
I got first pair of metal rim bifocal auto darkening lenses for 2500 Baht from a very small shop with limited range of rims. They seem to be fine to suit my needs. Around the price of an Oily visit. The price for similar at Top Charoen, with imaginary discounts of 50%, was still close to 5000 Baht, and the wait time is longer (done in the factory). Vastly more expensive stuff is also available in Top Charoen and I expect prices are high in the touristy areas. I heard that Top Charoen also owns another chain, so most specs shops are going to be of that chain.
I don't want to pay too much since I could drop and smash them or sit on them accidentally etc.Your doing the right thing and that is being a good consumer that is pretty much all you can do if you have the time to check. You brought me bad luck, son sends me a Line when I was in Bangkok his glasses frame broke. Took him to Euro Optics a independent place in Pattaya, got good examine, double check his eyes. Got a nice frame, transition lenses same as you 2500 baht will pick up Saturday.
LittleBigMan
03-29-18, 13:36
Why I like my little Shithole Pattaya?
I headed into Bangkok yesterday for the day and maybe overnight? My experience reminded me why I live in Pattaya and not Bangkok but I do enjoy myself from time to time as long as I don't leave the Sukhumvit area.
Wanted to check out the Auto show at the Impact Arena, last time I was there had a driver take us and wait to take us back when we were done. This time I was on my own so decided to take the bus, connected to the BTS to the Mo Chit station. Once I got there went down the stairs looked around and ask the motorbike Taxi how much he said 300 baht, told him too much, basically I had no idea what the price was but out of habit I always say too much. All of them look at each other gave me the head to toe how much you want to pay he snaps back. I tell him 150 is good he counters 200 off we go. As he was leaving the area I noticed a number of van on the other side of the road took note of their color and stripping. The guy is now flying 70-80 I had no idea it was this far from Mo Chit, from time to time I see his mirror to check the speed a number of times I notice in the mirror cars behind us I swear I could reach back and touch their hood. He goes between around cars heading towards the old airport I noticed as if I wasn't even on the back. While he was waiting at one light he got impatient so through the intersection when clear I wasn't prepared for it so my neck snapped back whiplash? He must have known something all of a sudden it started to rain this time of the year it seems in Thailand you can be standing on one side of the street no rain and the other side it is raining? I was getting a bit soaked but then we arrived. I got off handed him the helmet told him in Thai " I know I said 200 baht, I should give you nothing for snapping my neck back but I'm going to give you 300 baht to wish you good luck because the way you drive you will need it soon. He just looked at me and then busted out laughing and drove away.
I know I'm behind times with my smartphone as long as it rings I just can't shell out money for the new stuff. The kid and wife can knock themselves out I know I'm falling behind the technology Thai laugh because I have a Nokia, which is suppose to be out of the phone business now? To get in 100 baht but they want you to go to a Kiosk to check in they ask me to pull out my phone then I hear the giggle but the cute girls are polite and help me do the check in. Once inside lots of good stuff, they call it a Auto show but more motorbikes it seems than cars. My main reason was to check out all the trucks prices and models at the same time although I know I'm going to get the Rocco Toyota 4 x4 truck. I ask to speak to a sales agent who can speak English everyone looking What? But after 30 minutes they were able to find one who could help. Meantime the girls they used to show off the vehicles called them Agency girls, models?? But man if only I could see that type in any GoGo with their tops off?
In the end, got what I needed so out I went walked out look around saw a bunch of motorbike taxi but notice those vans early sitting at one section. I walk up and a lady ask me where I'm going, said Mo Chit BTS, she says get in 35 baht, I said what say again 35 baht. It took a bit longer but 35 baht, the bus carries 14 passenger and it was full. By now I noticed my neck was getting a bit stiff from Mo Chit the plan was to head to Soi 22-24 to take a look maybe even Tulip, then head over to Crazy House and back to Nana Spanky's but now my neck was getting really stiff I barely could turn my neck. Now I'm thinking better not stay overnight and get a early bus back moments later my son Lines me and say his eye glasses are broken so decision was made I would catch the late bus back to Pattaya. So I thought walk back to Asoke to check out Crazy house as I walking to Asoke traffic was stop and go on Sukhumvit next thing I know near Soi 18, motorbike guys comes flying out and his mirror clips me on my elbow it goes numb he jumps off and runs at me first I thought what the fuck I'm about to cold cock this guy but he starts to apologize etc etc. You alright I said you can make it up to pops by giving me a ride to Soi Cowboy. I jump on he dodges to the corner opposite way and drops me off right in front of CH, problem too damn early 4-5 girls on stage few customer I get a coke to cool off 170,30 minutes later head out now neck is stiff so is my elbow. By now frustrated hot and humid and getting tired started to walk to BTS to go back to bus station. When I get there I just missed the bus leaving and had to wait for next 9 pm. Once on the bus I look at the driver and his eyes are watering he is either sick or high. It ended up him sick coughing and spitting all the way back to Pattaya. The bus wasn't full but there were a half dozen young Indian making a ton of noise that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) the driver off but at least it kept him up. To top the day off, the trip took 3 hours traffic even at 9 pm was bumper to bumper traffic to the Hwy although not full we had to make stops to drop off Thai passenger in Chon Buri all the way LamChanbang, Naklua. It took forever felt longer than a 13 hour ride home to the States didn't help need was throbbing and stiff. So by midnight we came rolling in got on my bike dawn on me I haven't eaten since the night before went down to Soi Baukhao got three bowls of won ton noodles and jack myself up walk over to Soi Honey and got myself some honey for little money. By the time it was over near 3 am. But I'm back in my little shit hole.
This article does not say where this chap contracted his bug but Thailand certainly could be likely. Be careful out there guys.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/super-gonorrhea-man-first-ever-201826422.html
This article does not say where this chap contracted his bug but Thailand certainly could be likely. Be careful out there guys.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/super-gonorrhea-man-first-ever-201826422.htmlAnd by oral sex with no usual symptoms. Many more are out there unaware they have it in the throat.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2018/03/28/how-a-man-caught-the-worlds-strongest-super-gonorrhea-to-date/#7 dfa1 b8719 c5.
And by oral sex with no usual symptoms. Many more are out there unaware they have it in the throat.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2018/03/28/how-a-man-caught-the-worlds-strongest-super-gonorrhea-to-date/#7 dfa1 b8719 c5.
The bacteria turned out to be resistant to the standard antibiotics for gonorrhea, azithromycin and ceftriaxone, and was susceptible only to spectinomycin.How many punters are going to forego even BBBJ and DATY and opt to be covered for everything from now on rather than go for treatment with a third form of antibiotic already on the market to cure that bug should it strike?
Ok, I'll go first; I am pretty sure I won't be doing that. Apparently, it's going to take something scarier than that to essentially put an end to my sex life outside of an exclusive relationship with only one woman I am supposed to believe is also not screwing around on the side, even if they rename it Super Colossal Gonorrhea.
Why I like my little Shithole Pattaya?
I headed into Bangkok yesterday for the day and maybe overnight? My experience reminded me why I live in Pattaya and not Bangkok but I do enjoy myself from time to time as long as I don't leave the Sukhumvit area.
A crap day and shit happens, but dare I say, a lot of the shit happens by not being prepared. I can see where Impact is on Google Maps past Bang Kret. That is past where I had to go for Immigration stamp. Motorcycle for that, is unwise choice. Take BTS to Mo Chit or similar then taxi, or just taxi the whole way and be able to direct taxi with Google Maps and GPS. Taxis can go the wrong way.
If you are looking at vehicles you can afford a smart phone. They are not that expensive for basic models. My step daughter has an inexpensive one because she is likely to smash it from time to time. Mine is a few years out of date but still working fine (and takes 2 SIMs). I guess you have ulterior motive so you cannot be contacted on Video. LOL.
You could know by reading my posts (LOL) that while Crazy House opens at 7. 30, the best time to arrive is 9 PM if you want to see the better girls. Also the line up has declined a lot. Don't expect absolute beauties. Some girls with good bodies. Really pretty, not many, while I am very fussy. Some doable.
Traffic in Bangkok is a problem, that is best covered by knowing the time of day and time of month, day of week, and how that affects traffic. Outsiders won't know it well. I do use motorcycles at times for short trips due to heavy traffic. Some how I have avoided the incidents you report.
Lastly, you have been in Thailand such a long time, perhaps learning Thai could be worthwhile to you, even though takes years to get good at it. Find a good class to start with. It is hard when get older to take on vocab fast, I know. I did much better when I was 35 (long ago). Now I am getting a lot more exposed to Issan, I have new basic Issan vocab to learn gradually. I don't particularly like the sound of Issan language (it's like ugly Thai), but same applies to German, Chinese, Vietnamese etc. It is said that with just 200 words or so, you can start communicating very simple expressions in Thai with Thais. Maybe that is exaggeration, I don't know. I believe I am fluent to speak 4000 words now and understand maybe 8000 in context, but that is much more than necessary, although I can't follow TV News in Thai better than about 70% understanding. I can learn more by myself now. Street conversation uses much more limited vocab. I could order my specs in detail the other day in Thai language. When they used any English words with me, usually the pronunciation is so far off, that I don't understand them, and have to ask them to spell the English words. LOL Guys that live here full time (I am not), should be able to get pretty good at Thai within 3 years I reckon, if diligent for study repetition. Its even easier for guys who have an Asian type language already, to understand pronunciation issues.
So obviously you feel much more at home in Pattaya because used to it. I am the opposite. It is hard to work out why family guys would be in Pattaya other than to monger. LOL.
When I am up country with family (not Pattaya), mongering is out of the question.
I don't particularly like the sound of Issan language (it's like ugly Thai).Isaan sure as hell has the best Thai music. That stuff is fun. I love it when they crank up the Isaan music at the gogos and the girls go nuts for it.
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