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Any advice guys?The easiest way to come is through the Phuket or Samui sandbox programs. You can come into Bangkok or other places, but if you do, you will have to do a 2-week quarantine in a hotel where you cannot leave your room. If you come through one of the sandboxes, you can do your quarantine without staying in your room. You can't leave those islands during the two weeks, but after the two weeks, you can then travel within Thailand (there are travel restrictions, which you'll have to find based on when you are coming and where there are outbreaks).
So I don't know where you want to travel, but let's say you want to come to Pattaya. You could come into Bangkok and take a quarantine car to Pattaya and stay in a hotel there in your room for 2 weeks and then you would be in Pattaya and you could do what you wanted there. Or you could fly into Phuket and and spend 2 weeks hanging out at the beach and being outside your room, then travel to Pattaya freely (assuming there are no restrictions on travel to there) and spend the rest of your time in Pattaya.
Fly into Pattaya: Benefits. You'll be where you are trying to go, flight cost to Bangkok might be a little cheaper.
Fly into Pattaya: Downsides. You have to stay in your room for 2 weeks.
Fly to Phuket / Samui. Benefits - no quarantine in room, sex with ladies for those 2 weeks.
Fly to Phuket / Samui. Downsides - You'll have to find a way to get to Pattaya (I think there are cheap flights still running once or twice a week), cost might be a bit more (but not too much).
I am taking the Phuket sandbox route because I spent 5 weeks in quarantine in Korea and China trying to get back to my job in China and it sucked. The food would probably be better in Thailand, but it was just no fun at all. In Phuket, I can go outside and get exercise and enjoy the beautiful scenery and have sex. No contest in my book. From what it sounds like, I'll be able to find girls on ThaiFriendly who will fill the sex need and, if I can't get to Pattaya or Bangkok, so be it. I'll still have a great time. There's plenty to do and see on Phuket for a month.
You can read about the sandbox programs here:
https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/no-quarantine-phuket-sandbox-plan
I didn't want to deal with a lot of the hassles of finding insurance and everything, so I used this service to help me with the COE.
https://www.siam-legal.com/other-services/certificate-of-entry-thailand.php#package2.
I am happy to provide the links to the insurance you need and the COVID testing and other stuff if you want to do the sandbox. Actually, it appears the links are in the first link I posted. The service was ok, but I now feel like I should have done it myself. And here is the site to actually fill out the COE. You need to do this no matter where you'll be flying into Thailand.
https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/regis/index?checkconfirm=true
Oh, and it looks like the sandbox scheme is being expanded to include other destinations. Cool, I may use this because you can travel within the other sandboxes once you are in one sandbox.
https://www.tatnews.org/2021/08/thailand-confirms-phuket-sandbox-77-extension-now-in-effect/
The easiest way to come is through the Phuket or Samui sandbox programs. You can come into Bangkok or other places, but if you do, you will have to do a 2-week quarantine in a hotel where you cannot leave your room. If you come through one of the sandboxes, you can do your quarantine without staying in your room. You can't leave those islands during the two weeks, but after the two weeks, you can then travel within Thailand (there are travel restrictions, which you'll have to find based on when you are coming and where there are outbreaks).
So I don't know where you want to travel, but let's say you want to come to Pattaya. You could come into Bangkok and take a quarantine car to Pattaya and stay in a hotel there in your room for 2 weeks and then you would be in Pattaya and you could do what you wanted there. Or you could fly into Phuket and and spend 2 weeks hanging out at the beach and being outside your room, then travel to Pattaya freely (assuming there are no restrictions on travel to there) and spend the rest of your time in Pattaya.
Fly into Pattaya: Benefits. You'll be where you are trying to go, flight cost to Bangkok might be a little cheaper.
Fly into Pattaya: Downsides. You have to stay in your room for 2 weeks.
Fly to Phuket / Samui. Benefits - no quarantine in room, sex with ladies for those 2 weeks.
Fly to Phuket / Samui. Downsides - You'll have to find a way to get to Pattaya (I think there are cheap flights still running once or twice a week), cost might be a bit more (but not too much).
I am taking the Phuket sandbox route because I spent 5 weeks in quarantine in Korea and China trying to get back to my job in China and it sucked. The food would probably be better in Thailand, but it was just no fun at all. In Phuket, I can go outside and get exercise and enjoy the beautiful scenery and have sex. No contest in my book. From what it sounds like, I'll be able to find girls on ThaiFriendly who will fill the sex need and, if I can't get to Pattaya or Bangkok, so be it. I'll still have a great time. There's plenty to do and see on Phuket for a month.
You can read about the sandbox programs here:
https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/no-quarantine-phuket-sandbox-plan
I didn't want to deal with a lot of the hassles of finding insurance and everything, so I used this service to help me with the COE.
https://www.siam-legal.com/other-services/certificate-of-entry-thailand.php#package2.
I am happy to provide the links to the insurance you need and the COVID testing and other stuff if you want to do the sandbox. Actually, it appears the links are in the first link I posted. The service was ok, but I now feel like I should have done it myself. And here is the site to actually fill out the COE. You need to do this no matter where you'll be flying into Thailand.
https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/regis/index?checkconfirm=true
Oh, and it looks like the sandbox scheme is being expanded to include other destinations. Cool, I may use this because you can travel within the other sandboxes once you are in one sandbox.
https://www.tatnews.org/2021/08/thailand-confirms-phuket-sandbox-77-extension-now-in-effect/Coming from USA which airport would I transit thru to Phuket? USA airlines do not have direct flights to phuket. Flights to Hong Kong, Tokyo and Singapore.
Yes, I have always had difficult getting Colombian girls to kiss. It's almost always a no, at least in the P4 P category. And a lot of them have beautiful, luscious lips so it's difficult knowing up front your not going there. I have limited experience in Brazil so can't speak to that and somewhat better in PHP. Thai girls would kiss (even P4 P) but now with this Covid nonsense, I thought that would negatively impact their attitude and it appears it has. Like you are in inches of them regardless so not sure there is much of a difference in risk.
That is what separates Thailand, Philippines, Brazil, Colombia, etc. So depends on where you get your prostitutes as to what they usually do or like to do.
Yes, I have always had difficult getting Colombian girls to kiss. It's almost always a no, at least in the P4 P category. And a lot of them have beautiful, luscious lips so it's difficult knowing up front your not going there. I have limited experience in Brazil so can't speak to that and somewhat better in PHP. Thai girls would kiss (even P4 P) but now with this Covid nonsense, I thought that would negatively impact their attitude and it appears it has. Like you are in inches of them regardless so not sure there is much of a difference in risk.
That is what separates Thailand, Philippines, Brazil, Colombia, etc. So depends on where you get your prostitutes as to what they usually do or like to do.
The easiest way to come is through the Phuket or Samui sandbox programs. You can come into Bangkok or other places, but if you do, you will have to do a 2-week quarantine in a hotel where you cannot leave your room. If you come through one of the sandboxes, you can do your quarantine without staying in your room. You can't leave those islands during the two weeks, but after the two weeks, you can then travel within Thailand (there are travel restrictions, which you'll have to find based on when you are coming and where there are outbreaks).
So I don't know where you want to travel, but let's say you want to come to Pattaya. You could come into Bangkok and take a quarantine car to Pattaya and stay in a hotel there in your room for 2 weeks and then you would be in Pattaya and you could do what you wanted there. Or you could fly into Phuket and and spend 2 weeks hanging out at the beach and being outside your room, then travel to Pattaya freely (assuming there are no restrictions on travel to there) and spend the rest of your time in Pattaya.
Fly into Pattaya: Benefits. You'll be where you are trying to go, flight cost to Bangkok might be a little cheaper.
Fly into Pattaya: Downsides. You have to stay in your room for 2 weeks.
Fly to Phuket / Samui. Benefits - no quarantine in room, sex with ladies for those 2 weeks.
Even when there have been announced restrictions private cars will transport you anywhere in thailand for reasonable rates. Easy to find a drive thru FB expat groups. As long as you don't mind a long car ride getting to patts after sandbox is no problem.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-22-21, 02:52
Coming from USA which airport would I transit thru to Phuket? USA airlines do not have direct flights to phuket. Flights to Hong Kong, Tokyo and Singapore.Many people are coming through Singapore.
Daily Singapore to Phuket flights.
Coming from USA which airport would I transit thru to Phuket? USA airlines do not have direct flights to phuket. Flights to Hong Kong, Tokyo and Singapore.I am going from China, so I'm using HK. I'm not sure which is best from the US. I have a 16 hour layover in HK, so that's not going to be fun.
I received an email about my COE and it's been approved. It's a happy day.
Weirdly, I joined a few facebook groups yesterday about jobs in my field in Thailand and I had two places email me for my CV. I then met with one this afternoon and she offered me a job on the spot. It's on Phuket in one of the non-Patong towns sometimes mentioned on this forum and the pay is 90 K baht per month. I only plan to do this for one year, so I'm thinking I should just at the chance. 90 K a month seems like plenty to find an apartment, pay for stuff, have some fun, and still save some money. I was looking at AirBNB places and it looks like I can get a nice smallish one bedroom with a kitchen for like 10 k baht per month.
I have to let her know by the end of the week if I'm taking it. I won't be able to monger as much as originally intended because I'll need to be respectable, but there will certainly be time for it. And I can stay for a year instead of 45 days.
PedroMorales
08-23-21, 19:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PDOhHP6oI
There are many folk doing informative videos on BKKand Pattaya. Here is an excellent one on why not to go to Thailand. Such a mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PDOhHP6oI
There are many folk doing informative videos on BKKand Pattaya. Here is an excellent one on why not to go to Thailand. Such a mess.Thanks mate very informative. I have found quite big content there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PDOhHP6oI
There are many folk doing informative videos on BKKand Pattaya. Here is an excellent one on why not to go to Thailand. Such a mess.That is what we call an anecdote, a sample of one. He chose to go to Phuket on the day the whole thing started and he ran into trouble because they were still figuring things out and didn't have everything in place. Thailand probably deserves some criticism for that, but those issues don't seem to be a problem anymore. They provide links for you to get insurance and book hotels and pay / schedule for testing. I had some troubles because their payment system didn't work from China, but that wasn't Thailand's fault. I have had similar problems with those types of payments from here. Otherwise, it's been a breeze. I got confirmation in 3 days and my hotel was really helpful. Maybe something will derail everything, but if that happens, it will most likely be because the virus conditions have changed, which wouldn't really be their fault. I have a super long layover in HK and then I'm sure I'll be at the Phuket airport for hours, but I am going in with a good attitude and that will get me through it without the need to make a whiny youtube video. I survived 2 weeks of lockdown hotel quarantine in Korea followed by 3 weeks lockdown quarantine in China, with similarly long horrible days and horrible food, so I surely can survive one bad day to enter Phuket sandbox. The next day I'll be in the pool and on the beach and in my bed with some beauty wrapped around me. I can deal with one really long crappy day.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-24-21, 07:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PDOhHP6oI
There are many folk doing informative videos on BKKand Pattaya. Here is an excellent one on why not to go to Thailand. Such a mess.That video should be totally disregarded.
Early days were early days.
He took a punt on coming at the very start when he and everyone was told everything was subject to change.
He's just a whinger and whiner.
Everything is way smoother than this now, there is no mess.
If you don't expect fluid paperwork and rules, then don't travel.
Stay home, the new world of traveling is dramatically different.
He also talks fuck all in the video about why he wanted to come, and whether that was delivered.
Look at the FB groups on Phuket Sandbox if you want a balanced view.
And if you're coming for the sex and the girls.
I can tell you now, that they're here and you won't be disappointed.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-24-21, 07:07
I received an email about my COE and it's been approved. It's a happy day.
Weirdly, I joined a few facebook groups yesterday about jobs in my field in Thailand and I had two places email me for my CV. I then met with one this afternoon and she offered me a job on the spot. It's on Phuket in one of the non-Patong towns sometimes mentioned on this forum and the pay is 90 K baht per month. I only plan to do this for one year, so I'm thinking I should just at the chance. 90 K a month seems like plenty to find an apartment, pay for stuff, have some fun, and still save some money. I was looking at AirBNB places and it looks like I can get a nice smallish one bedroom with a kitchen for like 10 k baht per month.
I have to let her know by the end of the week if I'm taking it. I won't be able to monger as much as originally intended because I'll need to be respectable, but there will certainly be time for it. And I can stay for a year instead of 45 days.If you're interested then jump on it.
As 90 K a month is very good money here.
I would skip the airBnBs, look at condos when you get here and settled.
Lost of options on a 10 K per month budget.
Explorer8939
08-24-21, 08:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PDOhHP6oI
There are many folk doing informative videos on BKKand Pattaya. Here is an excellent one on why not to go to Thailand. Such a mess.I have been mongering in Pattaya since 2004, and I have never had such a good time as this year.
PedroMorales
08-24-21, 09:31
I have been mongering in Pattaya since 2004, and I have never had such a good time as this year.So you keep telling us all. Not to be rude but reports like yours are of marginal interest to me or most others. There are similar folk to you living in the Philippines and the same applies with them. They are either fantasists who lie they have sex with hookers or they are obsessed with pictures of vaginas. They are like those nutters who send dick pics to hookers.
The Phuket sandbox picture was informative as it gave a take on getting into Thailand under current conditions. Based on that video, it is far too much hassle for too little return.
The other videos I drew attention to were walkabout videos showing how dead Pattaya, Bkk etc are now. The best of those videos serve two purposes. They show how very hard Thais have it at the moment. They show if one goes to Pattaya, one goes to a ghost town.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvxy8SwFEx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWced7REXg&t=1088s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6zfhZDvkvE&t=433s
These three dudes are doing videos. Interesting to see it is a ghost town.
I have been mongering in Pattaya since 2004, and I have never had such a good time as this year.You are very lucky. Most of us sequestered in sex prison are envious of you. Continue to enjoy and report.
Member #4753
08-24-21, 18:39
I have been coming here since the mid 90's, usually staying only a month at a time. Decided to get a condo here about 3 years ago and aim to stay 9 months of each year. Been here throughout the shit storm that is covid.
I personally think it is a lot worse at the moment compared to pre covid. Most of the super stars have gone to ground and there is not much of any new talent coming through. Yes, there are the usual suspects still here, lots of 5's and 6's but no fresh hotties coming to town. My number of doable girls in my phone has steadily dropped since 2020.
Adding to this there is not much to do at the moment, everywhere is locked down. Bars have more or less been shut since Songkran (April). Even before this the bars were struggling as there have been no foreign tourists here since Feb 2020 so little in the way of new hotties, customers or atmosphere.
I am hoping for things to get moving again in 2022 so there will be some fresh talent coming through and hopefully more things to do at night.
I am hoping for things to get moving again in 2022 so there will be some fresh talent coming through and hopefully more things to do at night.
I have been mongering in Pattaya since 2004, and I have never had such a good time as this year.I'm not going to comment on the accuracy of anyone's post but I will say that it's not uncommon to see two people with wildly different views of the same place at the same time. It's just horses for courses:. Different people enjoy different things.
We had the same thing in the Angeles City thread pre pandemic: some guys lamented the change for the worse in the bar culture while other were posting about the great times they were having.
The solution is pretty simple:. If you don't like what you are seeing or reading, move on to what you find more enjoyable. No-one is holding a gun to your head keeping you there.
Explorer8939
08-24-21, 23:01
I have been coming here since the mid 90's, usually staying only a month at a time. Decided to get a condo here about 3 years ago and aim to stay 9 months of each year. Been here throughout the shit storm that is covid.
I personally think it is a lot worse at the moment compared to pre covid. Most of the super stars have gone to ground and there is not much of any new talent coming through. Yes, there are the usual suspects still here, lots of 5's and 6's but no fresh hotties coming to town. My number of doable girls in my phone has steadily dropped since 2020.
Adding to this there is not much to do at the moment, everywhere is locked down. Bars have more or less been shut since Songkran (April). Even before this the bars were struggling as there have been no foreign tourists here since Feb 2020 so little in the way of new hotties, customers or atmosphere.
I am hoping for things to get moving again in 2022 so there will be some fresh talent coming through and hopefully more things to do at night.Yep, if you want gogo superstars or fresh girls, Pattaya would be worthless.
But if you like gentlemens club ladies who are eager to please, there is no lack.
Pre-Covid, I rarely went to gogos, I hit the GCs, they were my staple. Or other bars on Soi Chaiyapoon. And rarely went to Soi 6 looking for fresh talent.
The rumor is that restaurants will open in September, so my lady friends may be working again, and I can stop with the 5 ladies a day routine.
Explorer8939
08-24-21, 23:14
So you keep telling us all. Not to be rude but reports like yours are of marginal interest to me or most others. There are similar folk to you living in the Philippines and the same applies with them. They are either fantasists who lie they have sex with hookers or they are obsessed with pictures of vaginas. They are like those nutters who send dick pics to hookers.
The Phuket sandbox picture was informative as it gave a take on getting into Thailand under current conditions. Based on that video, it is far too much hassle for too little return.
The other videos I drew attention to were walkabout videos showing how dead Pattaya, Bkk etc are now. The best of those videos serve two purposes. They show how very hard Thais have it at the moment. They show if one goes to Pattaya, one goes to a ghost town.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvxy8SwFEx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWced7REXg&t=1088s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6zfhZDvkvE&t=433s
These three dudes are doing videos. Interesting to see it is a ghost town.I don't really see Pattaya, since the ladies come to me, and I basically make the run to Foodmart for supplies every day or two. So, I don't get out much.
I plan to take the baht bus to Soi Honey tomorrow to try to get a haircut, and then I will see the long blocks of closed shops.
As far as photos of vaginas, I get plenty of real ones every day. Too many to really remember what they like. But it's not all great, I had one lady who claimed she came in 2 minutes, maybe 3 or 4 times yesterday, but if you know bargirls, that's how they get customers to stop touching them, they claim they came.
I am seeing ladies from a bunch who live together, and when they get drunk and naked, they write their names over each other with a ballpoint pen. I don't know what that's about. They go back to their place covered in ink and show the other ladies. Weird.
On the good news front, I am told that 5000 people a day are vaccinated, Monday. Friday. Some of my lady friends have now had their first shot. That means that Pattaya will have some decent coverage later this year.
Explorer8939
08-24-21, 23:19
You are very lucky. Most of us sequestered in sex prison are envious of you. Continue to enjoy and report.I hope you can make it to Tijuana, at least. I made a quick run to Tijuana in April, I hit Hong Kong and Adelitas, stayed at Cascadas for 3 nights. Unlike my Thai, which is worthless, my Spanish is excellent, so Mexico is super for me.
I have been coming here since the mid 90's, usually staying only a month at a time. Decided to get a condo here about 3 years ago and aim to stay 9 months of each year. Been here throughout the shit storm that is covid.…I've been to BKK (5-day trip) and to Phuket multiple times.
Though I dream about owning a condo in a big city, e. G, Paris, Lisbon, Tokyo, etc. , I found BKK to be noisy, crowded but frankly, the city with the most beautiful girls I've ever see!
So my question is, if you live in BKK 9 months a year, do you get bored or do you use BKK as a base to explore Thailand and the rest of Asia?
Or maybe share why you chose to buy a condo in BKK? Very interesting to hear your story. And thanks in advance for sharing!
I hope you can make it to Tijuana, at least. I made a quick run to Tijuana in April, I hit Hong Kong and Adelitas, stayed at Cascadas for 3 nights. Unlike my Thai, which is worthless, my Spanish is excellent, so Mexico is super for me.Hi Explorer8939.
Planning to go to Tijuana in September.
2 Quick (Q's) regarding Cascadas.
How much did you pay for room per night?
Did you make reservation, or just do a walk-in?
Thanks.
TC.
Explorer8939
08-25-21, 03:09
Hi Explorer8939.
Planning to go to Tijuana in September.
2 Quick (Q's) regarding Cascadas.
How much did you pay for room per night?
Did you make reservation, or just do a walk-in?
Thanks.
TC.I made a reservation.
The cost is complicated because I had a VIP card. Also, I went during the week, when rooms are much cheaper. I believe they retail about $100 for a jacuzzi suite.
Explorer8939
08-25-21, 03:10
I've been to BKK (5-day trip) and to Phuket multiple times.
Though I dream about owning a condo in a big city, e. G, Paris, Lisbon, Tokyo, etc. , I found BKK to be noisy, crowded but frankly, the city with the most beautiful girls I've ever see!
So my question is, if you live in BKK 9 months a year, do you get bored or do you use BKK as a base to explore Thailand and the rest of Asia?
Or maybe share why you chose to buy a condo in BKK? Very interesting to hear your story. And thanks in advance for sharing!I have a condo in Pratumnak. Once Covid is over, I will return to my practice of taking frequent trips, to places like Macau, KL, Singapore, etc.
I received an email about my COE and it's been approved. It's a happy day.
Weirdly, I joined a few facebook groups yesterday about jobs in my field in Thailand and I had two places email me for my CV. I then met with one this afternoon and she offered me a job on the spot. It's on Phuket in one of the non-Patong towns sometimes mentioned on this forum and the pay is 90 K baht per month. I only plan to do this for one year, so I'm thinking I should just at the chance. 90 K a month seems like plenty to find an apartment, pay for stuff, have some fun, and still save some money. I was looking at AirBNB places and it looks like I can get a nice smallish one bedroom with a kitchen for like 10 k baht per month.
I have to let her know by the end of the week if I'm taking it. I won't be able to monger as much as originally intended because I'll need to be respectable, but there will certainly be time for it. And I can stay for a year instead of 45 days.Can we trust these fb pages. Because they don't have much guarantee. Once I was invited to a event. But there weren't anything which were mentioned in the event page.
Member #4753
08-25-21, 10:37
I've been to BKK (5-day trip) and to Phuket multiple times.
Though I dream about owning a condo in a big city, e. G, Paris, Lisbon, Tokyo, etc. , I found BKK to be noisy, crowded but frankly, the city with the most beautiful girls I've ever see!
So my question is, if you live in BKK 9 months a year, do you get bored or do you use BKK as a base to explore Thailand and the rest of Asia?
Or maybe share why you chose to buy a condo in BKK? Very interesting to hear your story. And thanks in advance for sharing!I have been a small business / digital nomad for the last 25 years. My current situation made sense to be based in Asia. So through the process of elimination I decided on Bangkok.
4 Other cities that I have spent time in and considered: Singapore (a little boring, poor value for money, great hub and infrastructure), Hong Kong (Same as Singapore but much more lively, but the China Factor is a deal breaker), Kuala Lumpur (a little boring but does provide great value for money, good infrastructure, ok as a hub), Saigon (great value for money, infrastructure for my line of work not quite there, amazing women, Really Amazing Women!
Decided on Bangkok due to good infrastructure where I live (Ploenchit - 2 BTS stops from Siam), Great Food, Territorial Tax regime (which is nice! Easy living, good hub for visiting the rest of Thailand as well as Air links to Europe / Middle East / Asia. I think much more beautiful and fun women can be found in Vietnam, Hong Kong and or even Philippines. However in a city of 10 m souls you can easily find 1 or 10 hotties that will rock your world.
I think I will use BKK as a base for next 3 to 5 years, then I will be 50 and probably head to Europe. There are some very tasty women in the south of Europe.
Member #4753
08-25-21, 10:46
I've been to BKK (5-day trip) and to Phuket multiple times.
Though I dream about owning a condo in a big city, e. G, Paris, Lisbon, Tokyo, etc. , I found BKK to be noisy, crowded but frankly, the city with the most beautiful girls I've ever see!
So my question is, if you live in BKK 9 months a year, do you get bored or do you use BKK as a base to explore Thailand and the rest of Asia?
Or maybe share why you chose to buy a condo in BKK? Very interesting to hear your story. And thanks in advance for sharing!A follow up in relation to getting bored.
Pre covid. Work during the day, GF comes over 2 to 3 days per week. Hit a club 1 or 2 nights per week with a few fellow minded deviates. Maybe slip into a massage 1 or 2 days per week. Grab street food every day, cheap but excellent restaurants every night. Friends / acquaintances / family visiting from other countries. Bangkok is a great city. Never get bored.
During Covid. Most of everything is shut or limping along. Yes it is boring, but so are most places in the world at the moment.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-25-21, 11:18
That is what we call an anecdote, a sample of one. He chose to go to Phuket on the day the whole thing started and he ran into trouble because they were still figuring things out and didn't have everything in place. Thailand probably deserves some criticism for that, but those issues don't seem to be a problem anymore. They provide links for you to get insurance and book hotels and pay / schedule for testing. I had some troubles because their payment system didn't work from China, but that wasn't Thailand's fault. I have had similar problems with those types of payments from here. Otherwise, it's been a breeze. I got confirmation in 3 days and my hotel was really helpful. Maybe something will derail everything, but if that happens, it will most likely be because the virus conditions have changed, which wouldn't really be their fault. I have a super long layover in HK and then I'm sure I'll be at the Phuket airport for hours, but I am going in with a good attitude and that will get me through it without the need to make a whiny youtube video. I survived 2 weeks of lockdown hotel quarantine in Korea followed by 3 weeks lockdown quarantine in China, with similarly long horrible days and horrible food, so I surely can survive one bad day to enter Phuket sandbox. The next day I'll be in the pool and on the beach and in my bed with some beauty wrapped around me. I can deal with one really long crappy day.Nah, you'll be fine.
You don't sound like a whinger.
Not like the video maker, and many others around who like to complain that their glass isn't full any more.
I hope you can make it to Tijuana, at least. I made a quick run to Tijuana in April, I hit Hong Kong and Adelitas, stayed at Cascadas for 3 nights. Unlike my Thai, which is worthless, my Spanish is excellent, so Mexico is super for me.I'm a scaredy cat when it comes to covid. Mexico does not look enticing at all. The Dominican Republic looks best of all, I'm seriously considering a trip there.
PedroMorales
08-25-21, 21:20
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58334979
Long term mongers will know how useful plastic bags are to simulate suicide in farangs after a robbery; it is a kind of standing joke, like suicide by six bullets to the head.
The importance of this report is a BKK police chief is in the soup for checking out a drug addict with a plastic bag.
PedroMorales
08-27-21, 08:38
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930171/Montenegro-Thailand-added-travel-red-list.html
The British government have put Thailand as well as the cigarette smuggling Mecca of Montengro on the red no fly list. You can now go to Liechenstein (how I don't know) if you have any billions to launder.
The importance of Thailand is it is currently an expensive pain in the neck to go there and I don't imagine Brits are pouring into the Phuket sandbox like a Dunkirk in reverse.
The comments section make plain what people think of this latest part of the Great Reset scam. Illegal migrants pouring in, Afghanistan being evacuated and now this.
Anyone following the Special Olympics in Tokyo? Why is that lark in the park going ahead and honest hookers in Thailand and elsewhere are denied their means to buy rice?
School holidays are over so this should be a time for more space on places. Plenty of space now but peasants are not allowed fly.
PedroMorales
08-27-21, 14:31
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58352441
Jo Ferrari, the cop boss who suffocated a suspect to death by the farang tested method of putting multiple plastic bags over his head, has surrendered. And given a presconference.
The link also includes a Thai cop giving cops big "bonuses" for catching someone.
PedroMorales
09-05-21, 14:14
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9957855/British-pensioner-72-survived-three-days-lost-Thai-jungle-drinking-rainwater-puddles.html
Thank God they found the handsome man or the whole village would go short.
I logged onto TF today and discovered their web site has been redesigned. I'm not a paying member at this time so unable to fully check out the redesign.
Crocodilexp
09-06-21, 14:38
I logged onto TF today and discovered their web site has been redesigned. I'm not a paying member at this time so unable to fully check out the redesign.Oddly, I didn't notice any changes. Perhaps they're rolling out the redesign only for certain users.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9957855/British-pensioner-72-survived-three-days-lost-Thai-jungle-drinking-rainwater-puddles.html
Thank God they found the handsome man or the whole village would go short.The article indicates there are bears in the jungle. Is that accurate? I've never heard that before.
A follow up in relation to getting bored.
Pre covid. Work during the day, GF comes over 2 to 3 days per week. Hit a club 1 or 2 nights per week with a few fellow minded deviates. Maybe slip into a massage 1 or 2 days per week. Grab street food every day, cheap but excellent restaurants every night. Friends / acquaintances / family visiting from other countries. Bangkok is a great city. Never get bored.
During Covid. Most of everything is shut or limping along. Yes it is boring, but so are most places in the world at the moment.Yes, I have lived during the winter months in Bangkok for the past four out of seven years. The winter of 2021 I skipped due to Covid. And my schedule is quite similar to yours except that I am retired so my routine is a bit different than yours but plenty of time to enjoy deviant behavior along with many cultural attractions. Also, I use Bangkok as a base and travel to different places in Asia. Flights are inexpensive and short and I have visited Laos, Burma, Bali and Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia and Vietnam. In March 2020, I went to Hoi An, Vietnam for the second year in a row with a foray to Hue and some time spent in DaNang. Unfortunately, by then Covid had reared it's ugly head so I had to quickly change plans to return to my home country. But, I usually stay about three months in Bangkok and other Asian places and leave in early April when the heat arrives, traveling from there to Europe and then home to US.
The article indicates there are bears in the jungle. Is that accurate? I've never heard that before.There is an Asiatic black bear found in several Asian countries but to the best of my knowledge I have never heard of a bear spotted in Thailand. They are known to be in Bhutan, areas of China and Burma and also Taiwan. Maybe the article meant beer?
Member #4753
09-08-21, 01:47
Yes, I have lived during the winter months in Bangkok for the past four out of seven years. The winter of 2021 I skipped due to Covid. And my schedule is quite similar to yours except that I am retired so my routine is a bit different than yours but plenty of time to enjoy deviant behavior along with many cultural attractions. Also, I use Bangkok as a base and travel to different places in Asia. Flights are inexpensive and short and I have visited Laos, Burma, Bali and Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia and Vietnam. In March 2020, I went to Hoi An, Vietnam for the second year in a row with a foray to Hue and some time spent in DaNang. Unfortunately, by then Covid had reared it's ugly head so I had to quickly change plans to return to my home country. But, I usually stay about three months in Bangkok and other Asian places and leave in early April when the heat arrives, traveling from there to Europe and then home to US.Nice! That is the way to live your life.
How long could I stay if I can't do a visa run? I usually like to stay five months. Thanks.
How long could I stay if I can't do a visa run? I usually like to stay five months. Thanks.Your fucked or not. 555.
PedroMorales
09-12-21, 14:50
I was thinking of buying a bar type business in Southern Europe. It sounded like a good idea. It was hared to get prices and cash flow projections. But not impossible as good, clean folk have the same idea. Here is what I learned and how it related to Thailand and this forum.
1. Most people with similar dreams are total dreamers and wasters.
2. I have tracked down some folk. Americans - who have done this and are still starry eyed. A massive amount of work upfront and ongoing.
Bottom line: Absolutely no f-g way. Now that is with respectable people, Europeans in the main. Factor in Thai bar girls, corrupt Thai cops, yabba and the answer is no f-g way. It is amazing what a tight LBFM pussy does to pussies.
PedroMorales
09-12-21, 20:27
The article indicates there are bears in the jungle. Is that accurate? I've never heard that before.Thailand has black bears and sun bears, as well as the bears of Boyztown. Sun bears, as the world's smallest bears, are timid and are often kept as pets but, with cubs, they can go ape shit. They are reclusive so you get them wherever there is dense forest and no dumb ass hunters or loggers. Though the black bear likes to attack humans (Buddha has some work to do there yet), when I hiked in bear country, a bell was enough so they would disappear.
Bangkok (AFP) - Thailand plans to reopen Bangkok to fully vaccinated visitors in October.
Officials said on Friday (Sept 10), as the kingdom seeks to salvage a tourism industry hammered by the pandemic.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand said that from Oct 1, fully vaccinated foreign travellers will be able to visit Bangkok and four other provinces without undergoing two weeks' hotel quarantine.
Instead, the five areas. Also including Chiang Mai, Chon Buri, Phetchaburi and Prachuap Khiri Khan provinces. Are expected to follow a "sandbox" model of the type piloted since July in the holiday island of Phuket.
Under the sandbox scheme, tourists have to stay within a certain area for seven days after arrival and take Covid-19 tests.
LittleBigMan
09-13-21, 10:38
Bangkok (AFP) - Thailand plans to reopen Bangkok to fully vaccinated visitors in October.
Officials said on Friday (Sept 10), as the kingdom seeks to salvage a tourism industry hammered by the pandemic.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand said that from Oct 1, fully vaccinated foreign travellers will be able to visit Bangkok and four other provinces without undergoing two weeks' hotel quarantine.
Instead, the five areas. Also including Chiang Mai, Chon Buri, Phetchaburi and Prachuap Khiri Khan provinces. Are expected to follow a "sandbox" model of the type piloted since July in the holiday island of Phuket.
Under the sandbox scheme, tourists have to stay within a certain area for seven days after arrival and take Covid-19 tests.True? Between the lines of the message one still need to go through the process of obtaining the C. O. E. From the Thai Embassy then as the Phuket first set of visitors found out things can change while you are on the way.
Member #4753
09-13-21, 14:18
How long could I stay if I can't do a visa run? I usually like to stay five months. Thanks.You could speak to a Visa Agency about getting a visa for 3 months after your visa on arrival is extended once (=60 days). It is relatively quick and easy to do.
Costs vary, but think $1200 for a year or half that for 3 months extension. Expensive yes, but you just average it out on a per month basis and write it off as a cost of doing business in the LOS.
Explorer8939
09-13-21, 15:12
True? Between the lines of the message one still need to go through the process of obtaining the C. O. E. From the Thai Embassy then as the Phuket first set of visitors found out things can change while you are on the way.I am in Thailand now, but want to go back to the US to handle some logistics. I am fully vaccinated and don't want to do 14 days quarantine, when returning to Thailand.
It's unclear how bad the new rules are going to be. I could probably do 7 days, but longer than that would be torture.
All these news reports about Thailand reopening on Oct 1 are misleading. For now, they're ALL Proposals. This Friday, Sept 17, Thailand's Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration, (CCSA) will meet to discuss these proposals. Once they decide on what to do, it's passed up to the PM for his signature. It becomes law once it's published in the Royal Gazette. Also the 9 p-4 a curfew is still ongoing. The CCSA said last week, they would discuss on the curfew at the end of this month. At this point no one knows what is going to happen. We'll know shortly.
True? Between the lines of the message one still need to go through the process of obtaining the C. O. E. From the Thai Embassy then as the Phuket first set of visitors found out things can change while you are on the way.I think that's a thing of the past. I haven't heard of any problems recently and I certainly had no problems. I had tons of problems getting on a plane in Beijing. The guy there deliberately tried to have me miss my plane. He kept finding problems with my stuff, even though everything was perfect. The only thing not perfect was my COVID test had one word in Chinese that was not translated to English. He kept me an extra 45 minutes at check-in for that, forcing me to call the testing center and get them to wechat me a new one, which he then made me wait 20 minutes while he printed it out. So Check-in total took 3.5 hours before I could even start making my way through immigration and security, which is extensive in Beijing. When I left check-in, I had 25 minutes before the flight. He told me not to worry because it was not far to the gate. Turns out I had to get on a shuttle bus, then there was yet another app to download and fill out and immigration and photos and security. I got to the plane 20 minutes after it was supposed to take off but it was delayed and I just made it. That guy really tried to make me miss my flight, which is par for the course in China. So glad I'm out of that hole.
I then had a 17 hour layover in Hong Kong, which wasn't quite as bad as it sounds. The only really bad part was trying to find a place to sleep because of construction and all the Chinese people playing on their phones without headphones.
In Thailand, I was through everything in less than 30 minutes and in a car to my hotel. I didn't stop to use the restroom coming out of the plane and that really helped. I was one of the first 20 people to get to the testing part. You just had to sit down in these chairs, download a short phone app, show people walking through the chairs your paperwork, then go over to a desk. Then out to baggage. Then to a testing line. Then to the cars. It was extremely efficient. The only thing that wasn't perfect is that we didn't use the app they told us we would use before we got there, so I had downloaded an app and filled it out and that was wasted effort. It took about 20 minutes.
Whenever a new soft ware comes out for a computer or a new phone is released, people run to be first. I never do because I know there are kinks to be worked out. I waited for the kinks to be worked out with the sandbox and it was smooth. Don't listen to the people who rushed to be first. Those people always have problems.
LittleBigMan
09-14-21, 01:55
I think that's a thing of the past. I haven't heard of any problems recently and I certainly had no problems. I had tons of problems getting on a plane in Beijing. The guy there deliberately tried to have me miss my plane. He kept finding problems with my stuff, even though everything was perfect. The only thing not perfect was my COVID test had one word in Chinese that was not translated to English. He kept me an extra 45 minutes at check-in for that, forcing me to call the testing center and get them to wechat me a new one, which he then made me wait 20 minutes while he printed it out. So Check-in total took 3.5 hours before I could even start making my way through immigration and security, which is extensive in Beijing. When I left check-in, I had 25 minutes before the flight. He told me not to worry because it was not far to the gate. Turns out I had to get on a shuttle bus, then there was yet another app to download and fill out and immigration and photos and security. I got to the plane 20 minutes after it was supposed to take off but it was delayed and I just made it. That guy really tried to make me miss my flight, which is par for the course in China. So glad I'm out of that hole.
I then had a 17 hour layover in Hong Kong, which wasn't quite as bad as it sounds. The only really bad part was trying to find a place to sleep because of construction and all the Chinese people playing on their phones without headphones.
In Thailand, I was through everything in less than 30 minutes and in a car to my hotel. I didn't stop to use the restroom coming out of the plane and that really helped. I was one of the first 20 people to get to the testing part. You just had to sit down in these chairs, download a short phone app, show people walking through the chairs your paperwork, then go over to a desk. Then out to baggage. Then to a testing line. Then to the cars. It was extremely efficient. The only thing that wasn't perfect is that we didn't use the app they told us we would use before we got there, so I had downloaded an app and filled it out and that was wasted effort. It took about 20 minutes.
Whenever a new soft ware comes out for a computer or a new phone is released, people run to be first. I never do because I know there are kinks to be worked out. I waited for the kinks to be worked out with the sandbox and it was smooth. Don't listen to the people who rushed to be first. Those people always have problems.Your story outside of the see. O. E. Doesn't really bother me I've not been a world traveler like many of you but shit happens right? But regardless of your story of getting to Phuket may be a bit different since the Thais leaders have such high regard for the CCP, they would wave or do anything to get those high spenders here. I wonder back last year when they did the bubble for the first time for the Chinese the leaders projected thousand would come when the date came in Sept, they finally had to admit no one applied but a week later a small planeload arrived I wonder how in a week so many applied for the Certificate of Entry and got clearance a week before no one applied?
Regardless, we disagree coming from the States, in spite of all the optimistic news by the leader here of opening you still need to apply for the see. O. E. Nothing regarding the rules of being relaxed except the shortening of the quarantine when one arrives. Because of the uncertainty Airlines from the States are still limited, then you still got the insurance requiring $100,000 USD in coverage for the Covid which within the fine print will only cover you within a certain situation (timing).
Until those restrictions are clearly removed I won't be hopping on any aircraft when there are so many?
Your story outside of the see. O. E. Doesn't really bother me I've not been a world traveler like many of you but shit happens right? But regardless of your story of getting to Phuket may be a bit different since the Thais leaders have such high regard for the CCP, they would wave or do anything to get those high spenders here. I wonder back last year when they did the bubble for the first time for the Chinese the leaders projected thousand would come when the date came in Sept, they finally had to admit no one applied but a week later a small planeload arrived I wonder how in a week so many applied for the Certificate of Entry and got clearance a week before no one applied?
Regardless, we disagree coming from the States, in spite of all the optimistic news by the leader here of opening you still need to apply for the see. O. E. Nothing regarding the rules of being relaxed except the shortening of the quarantine when one arrives. Because of the uncertainty Airlines from the States are still limited, then you still got the insurance requiring $100,000 USD in coverage for the Covid which within the fine print will only cover you within a certain situation (timing).
Until those restrictions are clearly removed I won't be hopping on any aircraft when there are so many?I still had to do all of those things. I had to get insurance, the COE, and everything. Everything took about as long as it said it would on the website. Most everything is just a few clicks and filling out some forms. I did it all in a few hours. Not a big deal.
I have heard some people have trouble getting the hotel to do their part quickly, but my hotel (Austrian garden) was really good. They allow girls, who just have to give their ID, and it's very clean. No problems. I had some trouble with payment of the COVID tests because I was in China and the hotel just paid it for me and I repaid them.
And I came through Hong Kong, so very few of the people on the flight were Chinese. They are getting very few people from China, I think. Most people on my flight were American or European. They have a setup. I can't imagine they change the setup based on who is on the flight. That would be madness. It's quick and easy on arrival. I went to get my second covid test the other day. I was in and out in 15 minutes. I think people are overestimating how much trouble it all is. Don't get turned off by the COE. Just follow the links on the website and fill things out. You don't even need a visa as an American. I posted links earlier, but let me know if you need them again. This is easy. Come to Thailand! The people here need us.
LittleBigMan
09-20-21, 02:16
I still had to do all of those things. I had to get insurance, the COE, and everything. Everything took about as long as it said it would on the website. Most everything is just a few clicks and filling out some forms. I did it all in a few hours. Not a big deal.
I have heard some people have trouble getting the hotel to do their part quickly, but my hotel (Austrian garden) was really good. They allow girls, who just have to give their ID, and it's very clean. No problems. I had some trouble with payment of the COVID tests because I was in China and the hotel just paid it for me and I repaid them.
And I came through Hong Kong, so very few of the people on the flight were Chinese. They are getting very few people from China, I think. Most people on my flight were American or European. They have a setup. I can't imagine they change the setup based on who is on the flight. That would be madness. It's quick and easy on arrival. I went to get my second covid test the other day. I was in and out in 15 minutes. I think people are overestimating how much trouble it all is. Don't get turned off by the COE. Just follow the links on the website and fill things out. You don't even need a visa as an American. I posted links earlier, but let me know if you need them again. This is easy. Come to Thailand! The people here need us.What I mean is? Your first report basically outside of obtaining the see. O. E. " I have tons of gettings on the plane in Beijing " " etc. For someone like myself who wants to plan a trip back home who lives in Thailand with an IMM-O extension that needs to be within a specific time frame not a lot of flexibility if there is a delayed? All my trips in the past have been 14 days at best even when I had a resident the last few years I booked a hotel within those 14 days I had commitments daily whatever time I had to myself was getting up a 5 am and having breakfast and reading the local paper.
Personally, I don't have time to apply for a C. O. E. And wait for permission to leave, arrange a quarantined hotel, purchase insurance, which in the case of a long stay in Thailand buying a policy to match my extension is just a money grab agreement made between the insurance companies and the government leaders. Then the policy of quarantine for someone like myself who already has a home here in Pattaya like everyone else must quarantine the family can't visit or have a contact at the facility but is allowed to leave during the day visit the family at the home then return at night. Does that even make sense to the human mind?
My flight booking my situation is leaving on a specific day and return no delays I just don't have the flexibility any delay is a hardship having something like a communist fucker trying to delay my flight because he has a hair up his ass is secondary.
What I mean is? Your first report basically outside of obtaining the see. O. E. " I have tons of gettings on the plane in Beijing " " etc. For someone like myself who wants to plan a trip back home who lives in Thailand with an IMM-O extension that needs to be within a specific time frame not a lot of flexibility if there is a delayed? All my trips in the past have been 14 days at best even when I had a resident the last few years I booked a hotel within those 14 days I had commitments daily whatever time I had to myself was getting up a 5 am and having breakfast and reading the local paper.
Personally, I don't have time to apply for a C. O. E. And wait for permission to leave, arrange a quarantined hotel, purchase insurance, which in the case of a long stay in Thailand buying a policy to match my extension is just a money grab agreement made between the insurance companies and the government leaders. Then the policy of quarantine for someone like myself who already has a home here in Pattaya like everyone else must quarantine the family can't visit or have a contact at the facility but is allowed to leave during the day visit the family at the home then return at night. Does that even make sense to the human mind?
My flight booking my situation is leaving on a specific day and return no delays I just don't have the flexibility any delay is a hardship having something like a communist fucker trying to delay my flight because he has a hair up his ass is secondary.Obviously everyone's situation is different, but I was just saying it's really not that bad of a time commitment to get here. I think I spent 3 hours doing everything if you discount the trouble I had using one of the pay portals from China. Most people don't have a place in Pattaya like you. For you, maybe it's not worth it. I just don't want people to think this is some terrible task like it was for the first people who tried it. The system is running pretty well, I think. I hope. You can make it here soon. Maybe the news of relaxing some of the obstacles will help you.
I also didn't want people to think it was somehow easier for me because I was coming from China. It wasn't. In fact, it may have been harder because getting a covid test and getting an English copy of everything is a pain there. Then the stuff at the airport. Plus, I was working 60-70 hours a week at a boarding school and I had other things going on because I was moving here and also looking for a job. I had to carve out time to do it. Most people won't have those obstacles.
I wonder back last year when they did the bubble for the first time for the Chinese the leaders projected thousand would come when the date came in Sept, they finally had to admit no one applied but a week later a small planeload arrived I wonder how in a week so many applied for the Certificate of Entry and got clearance a week before no one applied?The 39 Chinese which were Thailand's 1st foreign tourists in 7 months (oct 2020) did not come through a travel bubble.
There was a 14 days quarantine in Thailand and another 14 days quarantine which became 21 days when going back to China.
Had there been a travel bubble between both countries that there would have been many more travelers but people aren't going to quarantine 5 weeks to spend a few days in Thailand.
"Under the program approved by the Thai Cabinet in September, foreign tourists who commit to a stay of at least 30 days are issued 90-day visas that can be renewed twice. After arriving, they must stay in government-approved quarantine at a hotel or hospital for 14 days and prove they have long-term accommodations. ".
LittleBigMan
09-21-21, 02:01
The 39 Chinese which were Thailand's 1st foreign tourists in 7 months (oct 2020) did not come through a travel bubble.
There was a 14 days quarantine in Thailand and another 14 days quarantine which became 21 days when going back to China.
Had there been a travel bubble between both countries that there would have been many more travelers but people aren't going to quarantine 5 weeks to spend a few days in Thailand.
"Under the program approved by the Thai Cabinet in September, foreign tourists who commit to a stay of at least 30 days are issued 90-day visas that can be renewed twice. After arriving, they must stay in government-approved quarantine at a hotel or hospital for 14 days and prove they have long-term accommodations. ".Thanks for the clarification there are so many ideas being thrown out by these leaders tough to keep track I guess they got so much criticism with the word bubble they started to be creative with names like " sandbox " I remember now about that particular program what I do know that was in fact the program a few days prior to the first plane arriving which they were making successful claims the had to admit they had no application yet a week or so later the first arrived with a bit over 100 passengers?
While they favor the Chinese so much everyone else had to jump through hopes for a see. O. E. Even for those like myself have investments here and carry an IMMG-O for 15 years, even Elite Visa had pretty much done the same how is that program going? A year back it was much tougher to obtain the see. O. E. There was nothing in place from my conversation with other Expat the Thai Embassy didn't even answer the phone? It is also a head-scratcher for a country that didn't create the Virus and put forth a vaccine in record time with very little data approved by the W. H. O. Still demands so much caution when returning to China? Thanks.
LittleBigMan
09-21-21, 02:29
Obviously everyone's situation is different, but I was just saying it's really not that bad of a time commitment to get here. I think I spent 3 hours doing everything if you discount the trouble I had using one of the pay portals from China. Most people don't have a place in Pattaya like you. For you, maybe it's not worth it. I just don't want people to think this is some terrible task like it was for the first people who tried it. The system is running pretty well, I think. I hope. You can make it here soon. Maybe the news of relaxing some of the obstacles will help you.
I also didn't want people to think it was somehow easier for me because I was coming from China. It wasn't. In fact, it may have been harder because getting a covid test and getting an English copy of everything is a pain there. Then the stuff at the airport. Plus, I was working 60-70 hours a week at a boarding school and I had other things going on because I was moving here and also looking for a job. I had to carve out time to do it. Most people won't have those obstacles.Nothing personal but that is what I'm trying to express everyone's situation is different. For the record, I here in Pattaya call it stuck whatever? I usually make a trip home to S. F. Once or twice a year particularly during the start of Chinese New Year, the last trip was at the beginning of 2020 as noted two weeks max I was lucky to leave when I did because by March it got bad and the lockdown. In reverse pretty much I owned in the States is gone particularly a resident so if a deadline isn't met by the Thai Embassy or a positive test prior to leaving for my scheduled flight that will cause a scramble to reset everything which includes the flight, hotel, etc.
My major reason for going home was to see my mother who passed away this March right after her 103rd Birthday, my little brother who is mentally challenged then my two nieces' financial Trust. My greatest resentment due to the pandemic I wasn't able to return and bury her personally with all the inconsistent obstacles in returning to Thailand. Leaving and not being able to return freely back to Thailand in a timely manner with a Thai family and its own problems not complaining puts things in reverse.
Thanks for the clarification there are so many ideas being thrown out by these leaders tough to keep track I guess they got so much criticism with the word bubble they started to be creative with names like " sandbox " I remember now about that particular program what I do know that was in fact the program a few days prior to the first plane arriving which they were making successful claims the had to admit they had no application yet a week or so later the first arrived with a bit over 100 passengers?
While they favor the Chinese so much everyone else had to jump through hopes for a see. O. E. Even for those like myself have investments here and carry an IMMG-O for 15 years, even Elite Visa had pretty much done the same how is that program going? A year back it was much tougher to obtain the see. O. E. There was nothing in place from my conversation with other Expat the Thai Embassy didn't even answer the phone? It is also a head-scratcher for a country that didn't create the Virus and put forth a vaccine in record time with very little data approved by the W. H. O. Still demands so much caution when returning to China? Thanks.You keep saying this but it isn't true. Chinese people still have to do a COE. I talked to a Chinese person in Phuket and he had to do it. It only took me two days to get my COE. It goes through the embassy so maybe the Thai Chinese embassy is just efficient or has little to do right now. But they do have to do COEs.
And I say this as someone who pretty much hates everything that has to do with China. I think they will destroy everything that is good about SE Asia if given the chance.
Nothing personal but that is what I'm trying to express everyone's situation is different. For the record, I here in Pattaya call it stuck whatever? I usually make a trip home to S. F. Once or twice a year particularly during the start of Chinese New Year, the last trip was at the beginning of 2020 as noted two weeks max I was lucky to leave when I did because by March it got bad and the lockdown. In reverse pretty much I owned in the States is gone particularly a resident so if a deadline isn't met by the Thai Embassy or a positive test prior to leaving for my scheduled flight that will cause a scramble to reset everything which includes the flight, hotel, etc.
My major reason for going home was to see my mother who passed away this March right after her 103rd Birthday, my little brother who is mentally challenged then my two nieces' financial Trust. My greatest resentment due to the pandemic I wasn't able to return and bury her personally with all the inconsistent obstacles in returning to Thailand. Leaving and not being able to return freely back to Thailand in a timely manner with a Thai family and its own problems not complaining puts things in reverse.I'm sorry about your mother, but it sounds like she lived a long life. 103? Wow.
I also understand hardship from this pandemic. I won't go into it here, but suffice to say my life was turned inside out.
Explorer8939
09-27-21, 13:19
Reports are that quarantine will be reduced to 7 days for vaccinated individuals on October 1.
Reports are that quarantine will be reduced to 7 days for vaccinated individuals on October 1.Hmmm, early 2022 is looking like a possibility.
Hmmm, early 2022 is looking like a possibility.It's 3 days to that the-day, it's not going to happen.
Member #4753
09-27-21, 17:43
The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.
The matter of whether to let tourists comes in is a more complicated. However the economy here is terrible right now. You would think it would be sensible to allow at least a small number in that have been double vaccinated. However, if there is even a 7 day quarantine those tourists are going to go somewhere else that has no quarantine. Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.
HorseTrader
09-27-21, 20:33
Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.That is why it doesn't really matter to the Thai economy if the quarantine is 14, 7, or 0 days. Even just curfew hours will keep many away.
I’ll come back when almost everything is open full hours and the primary restriction is proof of full vaccination.
Mr Enternational
09-27-21, 20:51
The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.
From my perspective the entire thing is pointless. I frequent countries such as Dominican Republic and Colombia where not even a test or vaccine is required to enter. There is no rash of tourists or locals returning home spreading covid in these places.
The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.
The matter of whether to let tourists comes in is a more complicated. However the economy here is terrible right now. You would think it would be sensible to allow at least a small number in that have been double vaccinated. However, if there is even a 7 day quarantine those tourists are going to go somewhere else that has no quarantine. Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.I understand what you're saying about quarantine, but these decisions are also political and it's more complicated than you are making it. Forcing people to quarantine basically allows the govt to say that the foreigners didn't bring it with them. They got it in Thailand just like the locals do. Having no quarantine makes it so that Thais could say the foreigners are bringing it in and then the politicians get blowback. Even a double vaccinated person can still get sick and carry the virus and all it would take is one super spreader event for the politicians to get hammered. They are in a no-win situation, so they are trying to have some kind of quarantine to keep sick people from brining in more virus while also allowing enough freedom to lure tourists. It obviously isn't working, but it's not as simple as just saying "No Quarantine!" That said, I think they should make it easier for long stay visas and those kinds of things. Those people have been long-term supporters of the economy.
I really don't know what the answer is, but I get the issue is complex and very political. I would personally love to see them vaccinate everyone by mandate and open everything. The lack of tourism money really is a national emergency at this point. They have to get people here.
Mr Enternational
09-28-21, 04:13
Let's get it!
https://aseannow.com/topic/1233166-thailand-to-scrap-quarantine-for-vaccinated-visitors-from-nov-1/
Let's get it!
https://aseannow.com/topic/1233166-thailand-to-scrap-quarantine-for-vaccinated-visitors-from-nov-1/This is good news, but be aware of what is being allowed and what's not. You still have to be double vaccinated, get a COE, stay in an approved hotel for seven days, get a PCR test before travelling and two while you are there, use a tracking app for the first seven days too. And the bars, clubs and gogo's will stay shut. Restaurants cannot serve alcohol too.
I'm also hearing chatter about the COE getting scrapped. But as usual the devil is in the details, even if the cabinet approves this nothing is final until it is published in the Royal Gazette.
Mr Enternational
09-28-21, 16:00
This is good news, but be aware of what is being allowed and what's not. You still have to be double vaccinated, get a COE, stay in an approved hotel for seven days, get a PCR test before travelling and two while you are there, use a tracking app for the first seven days too. And the bars, clubs and gogo's will stay shut. Restaurants cannot serve alcohol too.If I was a vacationing visitor then I would not go anywhere near that place. It would be like taking a trip to 6 Flags when all the rides are shut down. Like an article that I read yesterday that they want Pattaya to be for business and leisure when it reopens, and not entertainment. I can not understand why these people are trying so hard to turn a golden goose into an old age regular egg laying hen. They refuse to acknowledge what draws people to Pattaya.
Explorer8939
09-29-21, 05:20
I'm also hearing chatter about the COE getting scrapped. But as usual the devil is in the details, even if the cabinet approves this nothing is final until it is published in the Royal Gazette.Zero chance the COE will disappear anytime soon.
Zero chance the COE will disappear anytime soon.I know of several interested singles, couples, and even families who will not be coming to Thailand. COE is just part of the reason. Until it is retired, no hope.
Explorer8939
10-06-21, 05:57
What to do if you schedule a lady and she doesn't show and messages you some excuse?
"I forgot".
"My cousin is sick".
"I cannot leave work now, no have other lady here".
Don't try to negotiate with them, ie, don't say "maybe you can come later" or otherwise try to resolve their issue. They don't want to resolve the issue. They probably got a better customer.
The correct response is:
"No problem, I see you next week."
GF from TF, last year. A great hunting ground.
Johnie.
NicFrenchy
10-08-21, 02:32
The correct response is:
"No problem, I see you next week."The correct response for me is, "ok" and let her slowly fade away.
P4 P is about fun, not being stood up. You be stood up by a GF, ok, you listen to the excuses and move passed it.
You be stood up by a purchase? Bye bye Somying. Plenty of very good looking girls available right now, it's a buyers market at the moment.
PedroMorales
10-28-21, 11:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtYww_ZKUcE
Here is a video of a guy who checked out from the Bangkok Hilton. All of these factors have to be inputted in a risk / return scenario. Prior to first going to Thailand, I read that book which begins with a French guy using a razor blade to remove a tumor from another con's ear. I wonder how post Covid will impact on this establishment. I wonder how the farangs in there fared with Covid.
The only thing I miss in SE Asia is LBFM. I doubt many would miss this place.
Member #4753
10-28-21, 17:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtYww_ZKUcE
Here is a video of a guy who checked out from the Bangkok Hilton. I believe he is the only person that has escaped from the Bangkok Hilton. He has quite a life story, lucky to be alive and free.
HorseTrader
10-31-21, 18:50
I've been using generic Viagra and Cialis for years and they both effectively eliminate any ED problems. The problem is they both cause headache and nasty congestion for just as long as the ED problem is resolved. Levitra does nothing for me, no side effects, no boner.
In USA I recently tried Stendra. It's effective and the side effects are minimal. It also has a secondary advantage that it becomes effective very quickly, about half the time of Viagra. The problem with Stendra is price, about $60 per pill and there is no generic in USA. I'm planning my next trip to Thailand and was thinking about dropping $1500-$2000 on Stendra, that's a good chunk of money for me.
Is Stendra available in Thailand without a prescription? What is price and availability? Generic is fine, provided somebody has actually validated it performs like the name brand.
Mr Enternational
10-31-21, 19:14
The problem with Stendra is price, about $60 per pill and there is no generic in USA. I'm planning my next trip to Thailand and was thinking about dropping $1500-$2000 on Stendra, that's a good chunk of money for me.The good chunk of money will be going to Customs to explain why you were trying to bring $2000 worth of prescription drugs into the country.
The good chunk of money will be going to Customs to explain why you were trying to bring $2000 worth of prescription drugs into the country.I believe he can legally bring 30 tablets back with a prescription. Prescription would have to state to take one a day. IF available in Thailand then purchase the 200 MG and cut it up as needed for a longer supply.
Online search does not show a generic. Then again this is the first time have heard about this ED med.
PedroMorales
10-31-21, 19:44
https://www.drugs.com/comments/avanafil/stendra.html
Trump July 29, 2015.
For Erectile Dysfunction: "I like Stendra, no headaches like Cialis or Viagra did. I am 80 years old and have tried all methods. Injections with trimix, vacuum pump, and cock ring. I still have to use a cock ring to keep it up, but stendra works best, keeps me up with no side effects. Keep trying, never give up. I hope I have sex until they put me in the horizontal position."
9 / 10.
Not sure how legit this review is but, if I make 80, I won't be popping these pills. I laid off generic viagra maybe 10 years ago. I don't want any ticker issues.
. The problem with Stendra is price, about $60 per pill and there is no generic in USA. I'm planning my next trip to Thailand and was thinking about dropping $1500-$2000 on Stendra, that's a good chunk of money for me.
Is Stendra available in Thailand without a prescription? What is price and availability? Generic is fine, provided somebody has actually validated it performs like the name brand.
Explorer8939
10-31-21, 21:46
I believe he can legally bring 30 tablets back with a prescription. Prescription would have to state to take one a day. IF available in Thailand then purchase the 200 MG and cut it up as needed for a longer supply.
Online search does not show a generic. Then again this is the first time have heard about this ED med.30 tablets of Stendra, or any medicine?
When I land in BKK, I am taking another airline to Phuket. Approximately how long would it take to go through customs and grab my luggage for that next flight? And would they want me to take a covid test and verification of a SHA+ hotel or would all that happen in Phuket? Thanks.
30 tablets of Stendra, or any medicine?I believe the law allows for 30 day supply of prescription medicines. Could be any amount as long as you have a prescription.
Non scrip may have no limits.
Mr Enternational
11-14-21, 20:35
When I land in BKK, I am taking another airline to Phuket. Approximately how long would it take to go through customs and grab my luggage for that next flight? And would they want me to take a covid test and verification of a SHA+ hotel or would all that happen in Phuket? Thanks.Better make sure you ticket is for HKT and not Florida.
PedroMorales
11-14-21, 20:36
https://www.rt.com/news/540254-thailand-monarchy-reform-protest-bangkok/
Anti Royal and anti German protests on the rise in the Land of Smiles.
Explorer8939
11-15-21, 00:25
When I land in BKK, I am taking another airline to Phuket. Approximately how long would it take to go through customs and grab my luggage for that next flight? And would they want me to take a covid test and verification of a SHA+ hotel or would all that happen in Phuket? Thanks.I don't believe that your plans will be allowed under current Covid regulations. You must fly directly to Phuket from outside Thailand, or else quarantine one night in Bangkok and take a PCR test.
There are some flights that layover in BKK and fly to Phuket from Chicago (on the same airlines) . But since I was going the cheap route (Booking one way tickets) and trying to switch airlines when I get to BKK, that may cause an issue with quarantine and customs, even tho I won't be staying in BKK.
I don't believe that your plans will be allowed under current Covid regulations. You must fly directly to Phuket from outside Thailand, or else quarantine one night in Bangkok and take a PCR test.
https://www.rt.com/news/540254-thailand-monarchy-reform-protest-bangkok/
Anti Royal and anti German protests on the rise in the Land of Smiles.They should be more concerned with China than Germany.
Shining Wit
11-15-21, 13:36
Better make sure you ticket is for HKT and not Florida.He might have a problem finding a flight to PHK.
Bigger danger is arriving at BKK and departing DMK.
Crazy4Thai
11-15-21, 15:17
There are some flights that layover in BKK and fly to Phuket from Chicago (on the same airlines) . But since I was going the cheap route (Booking one way tickets) and trying to switch airlines when I get to BKK, that may cause an issue with quarantine and customs, even tho I won't be staying in BKK.Are you a returning expat? Are you entering on a long stay visa? You might find that you will not be able to board your flight in Chicago at all if you cannot show appropriate visa or extension of stay document that allows one way travel.
From my perspective the entire thing is pointless. I frequent countries such as Dominican Republic and Colombia where not even a test or vaccine is required to enter. There is no rash of tourists or locals returning home spreading covid in these places.I agree. Trips to Mex, especially Cabo, have been great. I do miss Thai, but the freedoms in Mex is better than most of USA. Only restrictions is from USA. Must have 24 HR neg test for unvax, and 72 HR for Vax to return. No issues there. Most don't wear masks. Few places want it going in. Point is place is doing great and no issues from anyone I am in contact w (300) that frequent, has had any sick. Other than one food poisoning.
There are some flights that layover in BKK and fly to Phuket from Chicago (on the same airlines) . But since I was going the cheap route (Booking one way tickets) and trying to switch airlines when I get to BKK, that may cause an issue with quarantine and customs, even tho I won't be staying in BKK.As Crazy4 Thai already pointed out, booking a one way ticket is not possible for most people. The air line and certainly Thai immigration want to see either a return ticket to your country, or a ticket to another country. And with a departure date that lays within the time that you are allowed to stay in Thailand (30 days if you are eligible for Visa exemption).
Booking with two different air lines might not be a problem if you arrive and depart from the same airport. So either Suvarnabhumi or Don Muang. (I say 'might', because I'm not sure if it's allowed).
But arriving at one of those and departing from the other one, means you have to go through immigration. And that means you will have to spend the first night in Bangkok and have a PCR-test.
And you are also risking that you miss your second flight when your first flight is delayed.
I wouldn't do it, if I were you. Not in these days.
Franciscass
11-17-21, 05:33
Anybody know what's required to get 30 day extension to the Thailand pass in particular whether the $50 K insurance has to cover the period of the extension. Do immigration check this as part of the application. Anything else? Thanks.
For anyone in United Kingdom planning a trip, Scoot Airlines (low cost arm of Singapore Airlines) have a good sale, non-stop flights Gatwick to Bangkok 249 pounds return in December and from March to June. Use Google Flights date grid to search flight dates.
As Crazy4 Thai already pointed out, booking a one way ticket is not possible for most people. The air line and certainly Thai immigration want to see either a return ticket to your country, or a ticket to another country. And with a departure date that lays within the time that you are allowed to stay in Thailand (30 days if you are eligible for Visa exemption).
Booking with two different air lines might not be a problem if you arrive and depart from the same airport. So either Suvarnabhumi or Don Muang. (I say 'might', because I'm not sure if it's allowed).
But arriving at one of those and departing from the other one, means you have to go through immigration. And that means you will have to spend the first night in Bangkok and have a PCR-test.
And you are also risking that you miss your second flight when your first flight is delayed.
I wouldn't do it, if I were you. Not in these days.I bought a $45 flight to Singapore for my outgoing flight. I knew it would never take place. The flight was cancelled and I will get my money back. And I have an excuse why I can't leave because my flight was cancelled. Play the hand they dealt you.
For anyone in United Kingdom planning a trip, Scoot Airlines (low cost arm of Singapore Airlines) have a good sale, non-stop flights Gatwick to Bangkok 249 pounds return in December and from March to June. Use Google Flights date grid to search flight dates.Scoot is using the Low Cost Carrier method of pricing, expect fees for everything other than a seat, you will have to pay for carry on, luggage in the hold and meals, paying other than their preferred payment type etc. That soon adds up and you will have a cost nearer a regular economy ticket.
PedroMorales
11-18-21, 10:13
Scoot is using the Low Cost Carrier method of pricing, expect fees for everything other than a seat, you will have to pay for carry on, luggage in the hold and meals, paying other than their preferred payment type etc. That soon adds up and you will have a cost nearer a regular economy ticket.I get your point and low cost airlines are forcing others to copy their model. Ryanair now have a system where the bags cost more than the flight. However, this stuff can be tweaked. For definite, you don't need both check in and carry on luggage (Thailand has shops). I travel quite a bit around Europe and never buy food or drink on board. In fact, planes muck up water and make tea and coffee awful (not my words but those of an air hostess I bonk for cash). As the price is very low, savings can be made. However, if you have no hold luggage, customs might stop you as they did me.
Where Cheap Charlies would get stung on that is on water as you have to hydrate but you could always carry on your own container and fill it up in the toilet. Definitely worth a punt.
I came into Phuket and the nightlife on Bangla is pretty popping. Lots of bars open, even past the supposed curfew. Plenty of girls, though quality is mixed and a lot of the hotter ones are quoting quite high prices.
I was thinking about popping over to Bangkok. For people who have recently done both, how do they compare? I've heard there's some side street off Soi 7 in Bangkok that's pretty lively with plenty of girls. I know it can't compare to pre-COVID, but how does it compare to Bangla?
Also was thinking about checking out Khaosan Road but I hear they're doing antigen tests if your vaccination is over half a year old. Mine is more than that so I would have to test and I don't want to risk hospitalization over a false positive. Can anyone confirm that's the case? Also when they check vaccinations, is a picture sufficient or do you need to bring the original card?
Franciscass
11-19-21, 13:48
A friend of mine aged 76 based in UK is having a problem finding the $50000 insurance coverage for the Thailand Pass.
Seems most insurance houses draw the line at 74.
Tried googling with no success. Possible a member knows how?
Thanks.
Banana Boi
11-19-21, 22:10
A friend of mine aged 76 based in UK is having a problem finding the $50000 insurance coverage for the Thailand Pass.
Seems most insurance houses draw the line at 74.
Tried googling with no success. Possible a member knows how?
Thanks.https://aseannow.com/topic/1239502-where-to-find-thailand-pass-required-insurance-for-non-o-holders-over-80-years-of-age/
I didn't read through it but a quick skim of this thread named some companies. Others have suggested just buy any insurance those issuing the Thailand Pass are not checking if it's actually COVID insurance.
LittleBigMan
11-20-21, 01:23
www.lumahealth.com
Others have suggested just buy any insurance those issuing the Thailand Pass are not checking if it's actually COVID insurance.The insurance has to be for $50,000 but it does not need to say it covers Covid only medical.
If you book your trip on Emirates before December 1, you get suitable coverage for free, I requested an insurance certificate and used that to get approved for my Thailand pass. Which was approved in three hours. I've heard that Ethihad also does the same and other airlines may too. Check your bank cards too as they may have insurance too.
Hello community!
Looking for advices here, other than Tinder. I will be traveling more than one month with my girl, from next Week. Bangkok / Chiang Mai / Phuket and Pattaya (at a time where night clubs / etc. Will be opened again hopefully).
My girl is very much into gangbangs with foreigners (would be easy to organized / find people in Pattaya I imagine) but we are also into 'swinger', cuckhold MMF and MFF. Apart from Fetlife (not very active.), what are the most active website / apps, specifically in Thailand, with people having similar kind of lifestyle? At least interest in swingers? Recommendations will be appreciated. Cheers!
ThaiGoodTimes
11-21-21, 11:42
Hello community!
Looking for advices here, other than Tinder. I will be traveling more than one month with my girl, from next Week. Bangkok / Chiang Mai / Phuket and Pattaya (at a time where night clubs / etc. Will be opened again hopefully).
My girl is very much into gangbangs with foreigners (would be easy to organized / find people in Pattaya I imagine) but we are also into 'swinger', cuckhold MMF and MFF. Apart from Fetlife (not very active.), what are the most active website / apps, specifically in Thailand, with people having similar kind of lifestyle? At least interest in swingers? Recommendations will be appreciated. Cheers!I have a friend very active in the southern Phuket region with gangbangs, mmmf, mfmf, etc. On the circuit here.
If you get here send me a PM, and I will put you in touch.
NicFrenchy
11-22-21, 04:26
If you get here send me a PM, and I will put you in touch.Only paid members can send PMs now, just FYI.
AussieGuy100
11-22-21, 06:45
While you are waiting for the Thailand bars to reopen, consider a quick trip to Phnom Penh. Visa easy to get, no quarantine for vaccinated travellers and a god bar scene now.
I can confirm that 90% of the girly bars are open in Phnom Penh. The official full open date is 1st December but most of the bars are open already. Plenty of girls around, with more arriving daily from their provinces. ST and LT prices ver negotiable with the girls keen to meet guys. Streets 130 and 136 still have the highest concentration of bars, with streets 104,110, 118 and 5 also having some open bars. Drinks prices are reasonable. Draft beer $1. 50, spirits $3. 75, ladydrinks $3. 50-$4. Local hotels doing some amazing deals as well.
Franciscass
11-23-21, 16:51
https://aseannow.com/topic/1239502-where-to-find-thailand-pass-required-insurance-for-non-o-holders-over-80-years-of-age/
I didn't read through it but a quick skim of this thread named some companies. Others have suggested just buy any insurance those issuing the Thailand Pass are not checking if it's actually COVID insurance.Thanks BB.
OK. You got Thailand pass.
Do you now need to download Thailand Plus app.
If so when where and how I. E what's involved. Does it have to be on a phone with a Thai sim.
OK. You got Thailand pass.
Do you now need to download Thailand Plus app.
If so when where and how I. E what's involved. Does it have to be on a phone with a Thai sim.I'll tell you my experience with it, but I came in through the sandbox w / a COE about 3 months ago. Tons of people in the airport to check your stuff / walk you through entry. Today YMMV.
I downloaded the app before leaving home per the instructions from the Thai consulate. Got to Phuket and nope, they use a different app in Phuket. I just handed my phone (still on a US sim card) to the girl who checked my COE and she keyed up the WiFi and got the right app up and running. No problem. The app loads onto the phone not the sim card. Also it runs on bluetooth, so no need for a local sim card as far as the app is concerned.
Bottom line: Don't over think it. Download the app and get on the plane. Thailand wants you here, and if they have to patch up your paperwork / phone on arrival they will.
I thought it would be funny to post some quotes from Thai Friendly profiles. It can be quite hilarious what these girls have written.
I have one daughter, but I have not had a vasectomy.
I have a worm heart. Hope you have a worm heart too.
Single but not available.
I have a job, don't worry about your money.
Last time I was someone's type, is when I was donating blood.
Old men stay away. I'm not looking for an uncle or grandpa.
I'm not lazy, I'm just on save energy sometimes.
If you want an angel, you have to go to paradise.
A good woman will stay by your side, no matter how much you lie, cheat or steal. That woman is your mother, not me.
The dog is fine, but I am allergic to cats. Anyway, I can take a pill if we match.
I'm not one night stand, if you interested in just few times for sex please pass me.
If you are rude to me, I will put you in jail.
I am a faithful person, ask my dog for details.
Speaking Thai will not be your plus, so no worries if you can't. If you can, don't talk to me in Thai.
Can anyone tell me what language this is, and what it means?
I cannot copy paste it, so I cannot check it in Google Tranlate.
HorseTrader
11-25-21, 07:38
Can anyone tell me what language this is, and what it means?
I cannot copy paste it, so I cannot check it in Google Tranlate.Arabic.
Using the camera feature of Google Translate, my best guess is "nothing lasts forever".
Thanks HorseTrader. Apparently the girl that has this in her profile in Line is not 100% Thai.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-sees-gradual-tourism-recovery-110911879.html
HorseTrader
11-25-21, 17:12
Arabic.
Using the camera feature of Google Translate, my best guess is "nothing lasts forever".
Thanks HorseTrader. Apparently the girl that has this in her profile in Line is not 100% Thai.Sure sounds like a 100% Thai girl philosophy! These girls roll with the changes with the best in the world.
Mr Enternational
11-25-21, 18:54
Thanks HorseTrader. Apparently the girl that has this in her profile in Line is not 100% Thai.Why wouldn't she be 100% Thai? As long as you have been going to Thailand, you have not realized that they cater to the customers they are usually around? This includes learning the language, listening to the music, and dressing and doing their makeup the way women from those countries do it. If it was in English would you think she was not 100% Thai?
Can anyone tell me what language this is, and what it means?
I cannot copy paste it, so I cannot check it in Google Tranlate.Looks like Arabic to me.
Explorer8939
11-27-21, 01:50
Sometimes ladies ask me to photos of them in jacuzzis or when they are otherwise not fully clothed. I notice they don't post the best photos on Facebook, I guess they are sending them to their customers.
SinfullyKorean
11-27-21, 06:04
Wasn't sure where to ask this, so I'm putting it here. If there's a better place to ask this, please let me know. I'll be happy to move it.
1. The Special Tourist Visa application looks relatively simple. Do you think it's worth hiring a company to handle the application process?
2. I heard people are making a 3 month reservation for a place to stay, then canceling the reservation once necessary paper (proof of payment) has been submitted. Airbnb only seems to allow cancelations within 48 hrs. What alternative bookings allow free cancelations past that (to cancel after STV has been approved)?
3. I need to provide proof of a departure flight, right? I've read that a round-trip itinerary is not necessary, only a departure flight. Is this true? Should I book an outbound flight with points so I can cancel after arrival? I don't think I can even book a 3 month round trip flight (from Google flights at least).
4. After 9 months (2 extensions), if I want to visit with visa exemption (from USA, the normal tourist visa), will having had an extended STV impede on my ability to do so?
TIA.
LookingLooking
11-27-21, 06:21
Wasn't sure where to ask this, so I'm putting it here. If there's a better place to ask this, please let me know. I'll be happy to move it.
1. The Special Tourist Visa application looks relatively simple. Do you think it's worth hiring a company to handle the application process?
2. I heard people are making a 3 month reservation for a place to stay, then canceling the reservation once necessary paper (proof of payment) has been submitted. Airbnb only seems to allow cancelations within 48 hrs. What alternative bookings allow free cancelations past that (to cancel after STV has been approved)?
3. I need to provide proof of a departure flight, right? I've read that a round-trip itinerary is not necessary, only a departure flight. Is this true? Should I book an outbound flight with points so I can cancel after arrival? I don't think I can even book a 3 month round trip flight (from Google flights at least).
4. After 9 months (2 extensions), if I want to visit with visa exemption (from USA, the normal tourist visa), will having had an extended STV impede on my ability to do so?
TIA.1. It's simple process if you have all the required documents to submit, stated on Thai Embassy's website. Hard copies only.
2. Yes I did that too. Made hotel reservations for the whole duration of my stay, not paid yet. Showed it to embassy, got my visa, cancelled the whole reservation later. Did it using Agoda. Make sure your reservation is "cancellable" before you book it.
3. You can always amend your departure flight after you enter Thailand. Book it first for easy visa process.
4. Not applicable for me. Can't answer this for you.
This is what most of Suvarnabhumi airport looks like after you have passed immigration to leave the country (so at the air side). There's a lot of (re)construction work going on, and there is hardly anything open. Most of the stores that are still open are selling electronics, liqiors or souvenirs. It's very hard to find stores that are selling food and drinks. There have never been that many restaurants at the air side, but now there's almost nothing left. I have walked past many of the gates (not all of them) and all I found was a coffee shop, a One Minute Gourmet and a Dairy Queen at the entrance towards gate E1-E10. And a small Japanese noodle shop, also around there somewhere.
And I was lucky that I could still get something, because it was already passed midnight and they were about to close.
I don't know how many restaurants are still open at the land side of the airport. I should have checked that, but I didn't. Most likely the situation is not much better there.
Why wouldn't she be 100% Thai? As long as you have been going to Thailand, you have not realized that they cater to the customers they are usually around? This includes learning the language, listening to the music, and dressing and doing their makeup the way women from those countries do it. If it was in English would you think she was not 100% Thai?I just thought it could be possible that she had some Arabic blood in her veins, based on her looks.
Anyway, I have just asked her, and she confirmed that it means 'nothing lasts forever'. But she's not partially Arabic, she just likes the phrase.
Member #4753
11-27-21, 10:53
1. The Special Tourist Visa application looks relatively simple. Do you think it's worth hiring a company to handle the application process?
2. I heard people are making a 3 month reservation for a place to stay, then cancelling the reservation once necessary paper (proof of payment) has been submitted. Airbnb only seems to allow cancelations within 48 hrs. What alternative bookings allow free cancelations past that (to cancel after STV has been approved)?
3. I need to provide proof of a departure flight, right? I've read that a round-trip itinerary is not necessary, only a departure flight. Is this true? Should I book an outbound flight with points so I can cancel after arrival? I don't think I can even book a 3 month round trip flight (from Google flights at least).
4. After 9 months (2 extensions), if I want to visit with visa exemption (from USA, the normal tourist visa), will having had an extended STV impede on my ability to do so?
TIA.
1. Do it yourself. You really don't need an agent unless you are dealing with something very complicated like a business visa or some type of semi dodgy visa which requires "special fees" to be divided up between said agent and senior immigration officer.
One point in regards to Thais, they love their paperwork. As long as everything ticks the boxes with the required document they will be happy with your app.
2. Yes I did this when last entered on a Multi entry Tourist Visa pre covid. I booked at a big name hotel for 12 weeks on the fully refundable stay rate. Some hotels won't even hit your credit card until a week before your entry but will still send you out a fully confirmed reservation.
3. I would always get a fully refundable ticket back out of the country. I simple $100 ticket out to a nearby country that is currently open will be good enough. I have done this many times and many visas, never needed a round ticket.
4. There is no rule which says you cannot just leave the country for 1 night and come back the next day to a visa on arrival. Then repeat this forever as many people did for decades. There were even visa run companies with Vans set up to do this to the closest land borders in Burma or Cambodia.
About 4 years ago they started to stop some people doing this at some entry points including Bangkok airports. Technically they were not meant to do this but ultimately it is up to the discretion of the immigration officer to admit you or not for whatever reason. They started to deny some people that had been doing this for say 18 months in a row. They never really did it to anybody that did it for less than a year.
Interestingly Chang Mai Airport and the land border back in from Vientiane Laos / Udon Thani never sent anybody back. So guys staying here for a long time simply did visa runs through this route and it worked until Covid started.
At the moment I cannot imagine Thailand denying anyone that wants to come back on a tourist visa or visa on arrival even if they have stayed for basically 9 or 12 months straight. There is no immigration law against doing this and they desperately need tourists. Phuket, Samui, Chang Mai, Tourist area of Bangkok are all at 5% capacity, so they are not going to deny any fully vaxed up tourist with cash in the next year or 3.
They are currently talking about new visas for longer term tourists but the Thai government loves to overly complicate stuff so don't know how workable they will be.
There is also the annual "Volunteer Visa" that any agent can help you get. The only volunteering you need to do is to "voluntarily donate 50,000 to the agent" which then gets split with some higher up immigration officer usually in the middle of Issan. These work quite well, I know people that have entered and left the country within the year without any issue at border crossings or airport. Everyone knows what it is but they are not going to interfere with some ones "special fees". A junior immigration office that tried to interfere would probably be put in a bad career position by interfering with a higher ups source of tea money.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/frenchman-known-mocking-government-denied-125343578.html
No wonder you guys never criticize the Thai government.
SinfullyKorean
11-30-21, 03:53
Thanks again for the wonderful bit of info / advice! I'll definitely do this in a month or so. Beer's on me!
1. Do it yourself. You really don't need an agent unless you are dealing with something very complicated like a business visa or some type of semi dodgy visa which requires "special fees" to be divided up between said agent and senior immigration officer.
One point in regards to Thais, they love their paperwork. As long as everything ticks the boxes with the required document they will be happy with your app.
2. Yes I did this when last entered on a Multi entry Tourist Visa pre covid. I booked at a big name hotel for 12 weeks on the fully refundable stay rate. Some hotels won't even hit your credit card until a week before your entry but will still send you out a fully confirmed reservation.
3. I would always get a fully refundable ticket back out of the country. I simple $100 ticket out to a nearby country that is currently open will be good enough. I have done this many times and many visas, never needed a round ticket.
4. There is no rule which says you cannot just leave the country for 1 night and come back the next day to a visa on arrival. Then repeat this forever as many people did for decades. There were even visa run companies with Vans set up to do this to the closest land borders in Burma or Cambodia.
About 4 years ago they started to stop some people doing this at some entry points including Bangkok airports. Technically they were not meant to do this but ultimately it is up to the discretion of the immigration officer to admit you or not for whatever reason. They started to deny some people that had been doing this for say 18 months in a row. They never really did it to anybody that did it for less than a year.
Interestingly Chang Mai Airport and the land border back in from Vientiane Laos / Udon Thani never sent anybody back. So guys staying here for a long time simply did visa runs through this route and it worked until Covid started.
At the moment I cannot imagine Thailand denying anyone that wants to come back on a tourist visa or visa on arrival even if they have stayed for basically 9 or 12 months straight. There is no immigration law against doing this and they desperately need tourists. Phuket, Samui, Chang Mai, Tourist area of Bangkok are all at 5% capacity, so they are not going to deny any fully vaxed up tourist with cash in the next year or 3.
They are currently talking about new visas for longer term tourists but the Thai government loves to overly complicate stuff so don't know how workable they will be.
There is also the annual "Volunteer Visa" that any agent can help you get. The only volunteering you need to do is to "voluntarily donate 50,000 to the agent" which then gets split with some higher up immigration officer usually in the middle of Issan. These work quite well, I know people that have entered and left the country within the year without any issue at border crossings or airport. Everyone knows what it is but they are not going to interfere with some ones "special fees". A junior immigration office that tried to interfere would probably be put in a bad career position by interfering with a higher ups source of tea money.
Might be useful when your trying to grab one on the way out of Thailand.
https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/indexen.php
Member #4740
12-11-21, 00:29
1 Showed it to embassy, got my visa.They not allows visa on arrrival?
They not allows visa on arrrival?You can get a visa on arrival if you are going to be visiting for 60 days or less.
Explorer8939
12-11-21, 08:44
They not allows visa on arrrival?It depends on your country.
Wolvenvacht
12-11-21, 10:37
I don't know how many restaurants are still open at the land side of the airport. I should have checked that, but I didn't. Most likely the situation is not much better there.Not a huge amount, but still enough if you only need a quick snack before or after or in between flights.
I went all the way down to the raillink level (to change money at the Superrich counter. Much better rates than at the bank counters!) and saw at least 3 or 4 food stalls at that level.
Wolvenvacht
12-11-21, 10:43
You can get a visa on arrival if you are going to be visiting for 60 days or less.Most "visa on arrival" are actually "visa exemption" schemes. You don't get a visa, just an entry stamp and a date before which you must leave.
The covid-situation put some extra admin on top of the existing visa regulations.
Actually, you now have three controls:
* the airline checks your documents (ticket, visa (if needed) and covid-papers) before checking in.
* immigration checks if you are allowed in.
* health authorities check the covid-documents and administer the tests.
At each of these checks you can be denied.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-thailand-ultimate-christmas-escape-091008385.html
Most "visa on arrival" are actually "visa exemption" schemes. You don't get a visa, just an entry stamp and a date before which you must leave.
The covid-situation put some extra admin on top of the existing visa regulations.
Actually, you now have three controls:
* the airline checks your documents (ticket, visa (if needed) and covid-papers) before checking in.
* immigration checks if you are allowed in.
* health authorities check the covid-documents and administer the tests.
At each of these checks you can be denied.This was actually a little bit different when I went to Thailand recently.
After arrival, about halfway between the gate and immigration, all documents were checked. But not by health authorities I think, but just immigration people or some other kind of officers.
Then at immigration I had to hand over all documents again to get the visa exemption stamp.
The PCR-test was not taken at the airport but at my hotel, by a nurse from a hospital. And all she needed was my passport.
Has anyone had experience with the 24/7 test & go claims by the sha+ hotels? Was planning on arriving around midnight, but don't want to be forced to pay another day if they actually won't test you until morning. On that note, is there any requirement on leaving the airport through private transit, or can you just grab a taxi?
Banana Boi
12-18-21, 04:13
Has anyone had experience with the 24/7 test & go claims by the sha+ hotels? Was planning on arriving around midnight, but don't want to be forced to pay another day if they actually won't test you until morning. On that note, is there any requirement on leaving the airport through private transit, or can you just grab a taxi?Transportation only through Test and Go hotel. It's included in your package so not sure why you would want to pay for your own taxi. You will get to stay at your SHA Plus hotel until you get your test results back no matter what time you arrive. You will not have to pay for a 2nd night. Always good to confirm that first with any hotel you are considering.
Mr Enternational
12-22-21, 16:07
Very interesting about Thai restaurants overseas.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W09QCLmnCUU
Etaoin2003
12-22-21, 22:50
Very interesting about Thai restaurants overseas.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W09QCLmnCUUMy experience has been that some "Thai" restaurants in the USA are actually Vietnamese.
My experience has been that some "Thai" restaurants in the USA are actually Vietnamese.I have very rarely had authentic Thai cuisine in the United States. One of the best Thai places ever was in a city where I never expected it to be, and that was in Portland, Oregon of all places. The meal was even served in traditional Thai dishware, which is also a very unusual occurrence in the States, at least for me and the places I have been to. Otherwise, having had lots of Thai food in Thailand itself, I always come away thinking "you're duping these Minnesotans, you're duping these Minnesotans" LOL! Now in Latin America, what I have found is that a lot of so-called "Thai" restaurants are really some kind of "Asian fusion" joint only loosely identifiable as "Thai" restaurants. The food might be tasty, but it most definitely is not Thai food!
Hamburgler
12-22-21, 23:30
Has anyone had experience with the 24/7 test & go claims by the sha+ hotels? Was planning on arriving around midnight, but don't want to be forced to pay another day if they actually won't test you until morning. On that note, is there any requirement on leaving the airport through private transit, or can you just grab a taxi?Yes. Did the one night at Sheraton Sukhumvit. You should pick a hotel that does the covid test on site. I had to go to a hospital after I landed and the drive time plus the wait at the hospital took two hours. Took the test at 4 pm and got the result at 6 am the next morning.
HorseTrader
12-23-21, 06:08
I have very rarely had authentic Thai cuisine in the United States.A Korean friend of mine in USA bought a Thai restaurant. While eating there about 15 years ago, I asked her if that was what restaurants in Thailand were like. She said she didn't know, she had never been to Thailand. The kitchen staff was Vietnamese and the dining room staff was Korean. The dishes had been adjusted to keep her customers happy, mostly USA and Korean people. The sign still says it is Thai. So much for authentic.
Now that I've experienced real Thai food many times, I can say conclusively that it isn't even close.
I have very rarely had authentic Thai cuisine in the United States. One of the best Thai places ever was in a city where I never expected it to be, and that was in Portland, Oregon of all places. The meal was even served in traditional Thai dishware, which is also a very unusual occurrence in the States, at least for me and the places I have been to. Otherwise, having had lots of Thai food in Thailand itself, I always come away thinking "you're duping these Minnesotans, you're duping these Minnesotans" LOL! Now in Latin America, what I have found is that a lot of so-called "Thai" restaurants are really some kind of "Asian fusion" joint only loosely identifiable as "Thai" restaurants. The food might be tasty, but it most definitely is not Thai food!Most thai restaurants I know are just generic thai food staples, but no less authentic than in thailand for the same dises. They just often have additional dishes to suit the western palette a bit more in addition to the normal stuff, and often leave out lots of regional cuisines.
Its common to see Vietnamese food in thai restaurants in areas with a larger Vietnamese population or there is a Vietnamese owner, although the opposite is not true, you rarely find thai in a Vietnamese restaurant.
SidewaysOnTour
12-24-21, 00:16
Hello friends,
I am looking to travel to Thailand in the first quarter of 2022. Am looking to book a sex vacation package that includes the hotel and the companionship of a girl or girls. An advanced booking with everything arranged takes the hassle out of punting. I know it will cost more but the comfort of knowing it is all arranged is appealing to me. Any known agencies or providers that can do this? I randomly found:
http://thai-sexy-holiday.com/
If anyone has details of trusted companies let me know.
Thanks.
Crazy4Thai
12-24-21, 03:04
Hello friends,
I am looking to travel to Thailand in the first quarter of 2022. Am looking to book a sex vacation package that includes the hotel and the companionship of a girl or girls. An advanced booking with everything arranged takes the hassle out of punting. I know it will cost more but the comfort of knowing it is all arranged is appealing to me. Any known agencies or providers that can do this? I randomly found:
http://thai-sexy-holiday.com/
If anyone has details of trusted companies let me know.
Thanks.I can arrange this for you. How many you want and How much you pay?
Axel Heyst
12-24-21, 03:40
Hello friends,
I am looking to travel to Thailand in the first quarter of 2022. Am looking to book a sex vacation package that includes the hotel and the companionship of a girl or girls. An advanced booking with everything arranged takes the hassle out of punting.No, it doesn't take the hassle out of punting. It creates more uncertainty at a higher cost and I guarantee you that you will not meet the best girls or even girls you like through a pre booked sex package.
Look mate, if you want to have a fun time in the Land of Smiles just accept the way things are done here and go with the flow. It's all about going out and meeting friendly girls in bars, Go Go's, clubs, massage parlors, and on the street and choosing who you want. Just wander around. It is totally safe. There is no other place in the world like Thailand (BKK & Pattaya) where you can roll out of your hotel room at any time of the day or night knee deep in pussy for 60 square blocks (20 blocks x 3 blocks) or more. It is a bountiful feast.
NicFrenchy
12-24-21, 09:41
Hello friends,
I am looking to travel to Thailand in the first quarter of 2022. Am looking to book a sex vacation package that includes the hotel and the companionship of a girl or girls. An advanced booking with everything arranged takes the hassle out of punting. I know it will cost more but the comfort of knowing it is all arranged is appealing to me. Any known agencies or providers that can do this?I would advise against this.
Planning is great, but in Thailand, too much planning can ruin your trip.
The best thing you can do is to have flexibility.
1. There are so many different things to try, P4 P or otherwise.
2. You might not like some girls you pre-booked.
3. You might really like a girl you had sex with and want to see her more.
4. You may want to change your itinerary and stay more / less in one area.
What I would suggest is to book your first nights in Bangkok, get an escort for the first night and set yourself a schedule for the other days:
- Oily Massage.
- Soapy Massage.
- Gogo bars.
- BJ bars.
Too many things to do and to pass up. Maybe meet with some ISG members that are in BKK same time as you and would be willing to be your wingman.
Banana Boi
12-24-21, 11:40
Reflect back to our first ever trip to Thailand. Imagine if you were part of a non-sex tour or if you went to Thailand with a girl. You'd be kicking yourself walking through Walking Street, Cowboy, Nana, etc.
Like Nic says, no sex tour guide needed at all. Thailand is such an easy place to navigate. Everyone speaks English in the areas of Pattaya, Phuket, and Bangkok you will be. Will take you a minute to find a girl in Thailand if you want.
https://www.tatnews.org/2021/12/thailand-pass-temporarily-suspended-those-received-qr-code-can-enter/
SidewaysOnTour
12-31-21, 23:37
No, it doesn't take the hassle out of punting. It creates more uncertainty at a higher cost and I guarantee you that you will not meet the best girls or even girls you like through a pre booked sex package.
Look mate, if you want to have a fun time in the Land of Smiles just accept the way things are done here and go with the flow. It's all about going out and meeting friendly girls in bars, Go Go's, clubs, massage parlors, and on the street and choosing who you want. Just wander around. It is totally safe. There is no other place in the world like Thailand (BKK & Pattaya) where you can roll out of your hotel room at any time of the day or night knee deep in pussy for 60 square blocks (20 blocks x 3 blocks) or more. It is a bountiful feast.OK thanks. I will play it by ear then. I was just a little nervous as it will be my first trip to Thailand and being a single bloke on my own I am worried about late night walks with no wingman!
I've mongered in other countries, Vietnam, Dubai, Czech Australia and UK but Thailand is an unknown for me.
For my first trip (Later in 2022) would you or other members recommend Bangkok or Pattaya in terms of ease of navigation and finding girls? I do not speak Thai so that might be a factor.
Appreciate the feedback so far.
Thanks gents.
SidewaysOnTour
12-31-21, 23:41
I would advise against this.
Planning is great, but in Thailand, too much planning can ruin your trip.
The best thing you can do is to have flexibility.
1. There are so many different things to try, P4 P or otherwise.
2. You might not like some girls you pre-booked.
3. You might really like a girl you had sex with and want to see her more.
4. You may want to change your itinerary and stay more / less in one area.
What I would suggest is to book your first nights in Bangkok, get an escort for the first night and set yourself a schedule for the other days:
- Oily Massage.Great suggestion. Thanks. Would you recommend Bangkok or Pattaya? I am interested more in escorts and full service rather than massage. I do not speak Thai and will be on my own so for ease of navigation which City would be best?
NicFrenchy
01-01-22, 04:23
Great suggestion. Thanks. Would you recommend Bangkok or Pattaya? I am interested more in escorts and full service rather than massage. I do not speak Thai and will be on my own so for ease of navigation which City would be best?I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: https://www.fiwfans.com or https://smooci.com/bangkok.
Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.
Maybe try a NURU massage https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/.
At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.
Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html.
Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).
SidewaysOnTour
01-01-22, 04:54
I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: https://www.fiwfans.com or https://smooci.com/bangkok.
Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.
Maybe try a NURU massage https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/.
At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.
Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html.
Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).Fantastic.
The links are really helpful. I appreciate the help.
I arrive in April so will post reviews then of how I go.
Thank you so much.
SidewaysOnTour
01-01-22, 07:37
I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: https://www.fiwfans.com or https://smooci.com/bangkok.
Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.
Maybe try a NURU massage https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/.
At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.
Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html.
Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).OK great.
With the walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana, if I am approached by a lady on the street what is the "ball park" for 4 hours? I know it will depend on the girl. Some will be more, others less, but an idea of cost would be great so I don't inflate the local prices!
If in a bar and I take a girl home how much can I expect the bar fine to be?
Looking forward to my trip I can tell you.
NicFrenchy
01-01-22, 16:05
I arrive in April so will post reviews then of how I go.April is a lifetime away. Best check back here mid-March.
Open places, girls availability, prices quoted. Everything's a bit off balance at the moment. It could all change by April, best to wait.
With the walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana, if I am approached by a lady on the street what is the "ball park" for 4 hours? Better read dozens of pages in this forum first, before you decide on where to stay and where to go, and to get a general idea of the prices. That's what this forum is for after all. Read first and then come back if you still have questions.
Banana Boi
01-02-22, 09:26
what is the "ball park" for 4 hours?ST is 1-2 hours for most girls. There is no 4 hour rate per se. Anything more than 2 hours is generally considered LT (ie. Overnight). LT rates can be anywhere from 1000 baht to 10,000 baht depending on where you pick up the girl. And if the girl sees you as a tourist or an expat.
NicFrenchy
01-02-22, 09:45
ST is 1-2 hours for most girls.In Theory, yes, but not for a busy girl, and especially not if you're a tourist.
These girls are experienced and they can smell a fresh tourist, which means, if you only say ST, she's going to leave as soon as she makes you cum.
Some girls may even add insult to injury and tall you "you finish too quick" and ask for an extra 500 or 1000 for the extra pop.
Be firm with what you want before you agree. ST for me is 2 hours and 2 pops. And 2 K max.
You'll get the usual suspects: BBBJCIM, COF, COB, DATY, Covered FS. No Anal or no threesomes (unless negotiated in advance, price will depend on how desperate she is to get money).
NicFrenchy
01-02-22, 09:56
if I am approached by a lady on the streetYou always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.
Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.
Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.
If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).
Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE
I think it's fair to say most reveal their LB status in short order as they wish to avoid unnecessary drama as well. However, if you have any doubt at all, just ask. Only the rare bird would deny, unless, of course, "she" is post op and then may try to get away with the subterfuge, usually under the cover of darkness. Needless to say, if you bang the post op or receive a BJ etc. And are not aware, perhaps it falls under the old saying "if a tree falls in forest and no one is there, does it make a sound"?
You always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.
Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.
Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.
If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).
Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE
Chimpo Chinn
01-02-22, 17:47
You always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.
Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.
Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.
If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).
Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE15 years ago Rainbow Barfine was 500. Just before closure it was up to 1,000.
HorseTrader
01-02-22, 17:49
In Theory, yes, but not for a busy girl, and especially not if you're a tourist.
These girls are experienced and they can smell a fresh tourist, which means, if you only say ST, she's going to leave as soon as she makes you cum.These girls can easily spot that I'm a tourist, but for my short time girls I've come up with a phrase that reduces the rush: "I'll be here for another 3 weeks. " They then see me as a potential repeat customer and tend to stick around longer than I want them.
SidewaysOnTour
01-02-22, 23:10
To everyone that has replied offering advice. I have also spent a day reading through the forum. All very insightful and I feel more informed as to where to go in Bangkok, the rules of engagement (LOL) and approximate prices. I appreciate the guidance gents.
Crocodilexp
01-04-22, 00:43
I think it's fair to say most reveal their LB status in short order as they wish to avoid unnecessary drama as well. However, if you have any doubt at all, just ask. Only the rare bird would deny, unless, of course, "she" is post op and then may try to get away with the subterfugeDuring normal times, yes. However, these are desperate times, and LBs who are desperate for customers might be more willing to conceal their status.
If I am approached by a lady on the street what is the "ball park" for 4 hours? If in a bar and I take a girl home how much can I expect the bar fine to be?Every gent is full of questions before his first trip to Thailand. No shame in that.
But it's poor form to ask basic questions here that have been asked and answered in this forum dozens, if not HUNDREDS of times before. Questions of that nature clutter the forum, waste bandwidth and suggest the new guy is too lazy to do even basic research.
Mr. Sideways should go back at least 100 pages in the forums for Bangkok and Pattaya and read all the traffic up to the present day. He should take notes as he does so. He should also use his favorite search engine to locate points of interest on a map, which will give him a basic understanding of the areas of interest to naughty boys visiting both cities. Finally, he should look at the web sites collecting hotel and restaurant reviews.
Once he has done his homework, Mr. Sideways can ask specific questions about topics that have not yet been addressed, or about topics where the guidance may have changed recently. Otherwise he's just wasting everybody's time.
SidewaysOnTour
01-04-22, 03:43
Every gent is full of questions before his first trip to Thailand. No shame in that.
But it's poor form to ask basic questions here that have been asked and answered in this forum dozens, if not HUNDREDS of times before. Questions of that nature clutter the forum, waste bandwidth and suggest the new guy is too lazy to do even basic research.
Mr. Sideways should go back at least 100 pages in the forums for Bangkok and Pattaya and read all the traffic up to the present day. He should take notes as he does so. He should also use his favorite search engine to locate points of interest on a map, which will give him a basic understanding of the areas of interest to naughty boys visiting both cities. Finally, he should look at the web sites collecting hotel and restaurant reviews.
Once he has done his homework, Mr. Sideways can ask specific questions about topics that have not yet been addressed, or about topics where the guidance may have changed recently. Otherwise he's just wasting everybody's time.The irony of this response when you talk about wasting bandwidth has not been lost on me. Hilarious.
...Every gent is full of questions before his first trip to Thailand. No shame in that.
But it's poor form to ask basic questions here that have been asked and answered in this forum dozens, if not HUNDREDS of times before. Questions of that nature clutter the forum, waste bandwidth and suggest the new guy is too lazy to do even basic research...I agree with you, poor form at its best.
Chimpo Chinn
01-04-22, 07:33
The irony of this response when you talk about wasting bandwidth has not been lost on me. Hilarious.Me Neither.
NicFrenchy
01-04-22, 15:09
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.
At the time, it was also pretty hostile to newbs and their "stupid" or "Repetitive" questions, but thankfully, there was always a few guys willing to help out and I will always be grateful to them. GIOTTO, OTH, MICK LICKER, DUNIAWALA, 1 BALL, PITA123 to name a few (names from another set of decades, I know).
My HUGE advantage was that I was coming to Bangkok to work, I had time to discover everything, trial and error type of thing and so I did.
I tried places and reported on them, shared with everyone so that a few people would benefit (the same way other guy's reviews helped me).
However, P4 P is not simple and I quickly learned it was NOT OK to write descriptive reviews anymore. Several reasons:
1. Pricing is not always fixed and the price a girl charges for Customer A isn't the same as the one she charges Customer be:
A) She discriminates by skin color.
B) You're cute, she likes you and wants you to take her, even for a little less than the other guy sitting across the bar she's not very fond of.
B) You're the only customer willing to take her that day.
C) She's tired from 3 customers that day so to be her 4th you have to be generous.
D) She needs a place to stay the night, she's willing to go LT for ST price (that day).
2. She's doing something with you she's not usually doing with others.
3. As soon as you write a glowing review about a girl, be prepared to say goodbye to her, for her to disappear, Busy with all the forum readers now hunting for her.
4. Not everyone reading this forum is trustworthy.
Girls have been upset with me because some customers PRINTED my review and showed it to her, demanding exactly the same! (I'm serious).
Bottom line, do what you feel, ask what you want and ignore the passive aggressive or negative replies, no one owns this forum and last time I checked, it's not against the rules to ask questions.
If people want to help you great, if not, just can move to the next post.
I understand tourists here for a short time, you don't want to make mistakes, you want to get it as right as you possibly can. Also guys visiting with their families and with only a window of a few hours to play.
Aren't we here because we want to build a loyal, harmonious brotherhood? Ready to help each other have the best time possible?
Or maybe I misunderstood the purpose of the forum.
Mr Enternational
01-04-22, 15:56
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
Bottom line, do what you feel, ask what you want and ignore the passive aggressive or negative replies, no one owns this forum and last time I checked, it's not against the rules to ask questions.I came to this forum 17 years ago and asked a question. I was told by OTH to RTFF. I did not understand it then, but I do now.
When I travel with chicks or go visit chicks I always ask them what we are going to do. Most have no clue. I tell them to look on the internet then. They will try the we will figure it out when you get here card. No. I need to know what to pack, how much money I will need, and other sorts of things depending on the activities that are planned. Most chicks are just too lazy to do the simple google searches and want someone else to figure it out. It is the same for people that come up and ask questions before they have read tff.
In primary school we would go to class and the teacher would teach us something, then she would send us home to practice what we had learned that day. When I got to graduate school we had to do what people mean when they say RTFF. We were expected to have already have read over and studied the new material, then we came to class and asked specific questions about things we may not have understood.
Some guys come on here with a primary school mentality expecting someone else to take the time to plan out their vacation and hand them the itinerary. People saying RTFF are grad school professors saying to put your big boy pants on and plan out your own vacation and then ask for clarification on any specifics.
It really is sad for someone to come on here and ask where are the best girls or how much do I need to pay chicks. To me that gives off a vibe that they don't have intentions of even traveling in the first place. I have encountered this multiple times with my own friends. Asking the same damn questions over and over. I got to the point where I do not give any information until they show me they have a ticket.
Banana Boi
01-04-22, 16:11
I have encountered this multiple times with my own friends. Asking the same damn questions over and over. I got to the point where I do not give any information until they show me they have a ticket.So true. So many guys have told me they're coming to Thailand for the past 7 years. I've told them they missed the boat, even in 2020 pre-COVID. Same for Germany for the past 12 years. Show me you're serious and I will help you.
I spent from February to October reading and following the Thai forum daily. I asked some questions. I had the help of some experienced guys who I knew from the Germany forums like Breadman, Finnish Fucker, and Syzygies. I got called out by a prominent member on ISG to RTFF and ironically he has since become a good friend of mine in real life.
However, to be fair to new guys when we first started there was plenty of useful information on the board. Now guys post about their nights out without even naming the bars they visited or girls. Someone like ET and I haven't gotten along over the years but I will be the first to thank him for his posts now as they are detailed and provide information.
I sometimes wonder about the good posters like Giotto, OTH, Mick Licker, Duniawala, 1 Ball, Pita123, Haven123 and (more recently) FL Hawk who seem to have disappeared. I know Giotto made a surprise reappearance here last year. Hope these guys are OK. Some of us are getting up there in age.
Explorer8939
01-05-22, 02:17
I have only a few more nights in Pattaya before I leave for Brazil. So, I am going with my favorite ladies from 2021.
Tonight, I booked a room at the Cape Dara Resort, and will drink drink some wine with a Mamasan who works in LK Metro. The hot tub generally motivates Thai ladies, probably because it's rare for them.
NicFrenchy
01-05-22, 02:58
Mick Licker...Hope these guys are OKMick is probably still here under another Alias 😊.
He was MP LURKER, SYZYGIES and probably another handle by now.
Banana Boi
01-05-22, 03:24
Haven123 and (more recently) FL Hawk who seem to have disappeared. FL still goes to Thailand more often than most of us. So dedicated he even did the full 14 day quarantine when it first came available. I believe he stopped posting because there was just too much negativity on this board. Anyone who has met FL knows he's a glass half full kind of guy.
I think I was with Haven his final nights in Thailand. He just seemed to have dropped off the scene after that. No longer in touch with him so don't know how he is. Can't believe that was 4 years ago.
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.Back then you could RTFF and actually find quite a bit of useful information and actionable intel.
Now a days the forums are increasingly cluttered with jive talk, smack talk, combative alter egos, politics, untruths, falsehoods, third hand information consolidators, and people who have never been to Thailand yet talk authoritatively.
It is entertaining for the short time trolls who come and go, but bad for the punters and hobbyists looking to gain some practical knowledge.
SL.
NicFrenchy
01-05-22, 15:07
Now guys post about their nights out without even naming the bars they visited or girlsI used to make that mistake myself, being very detailed and it did cost me quite a bit. Not monetary, obviously but sometimes we underestimate the amount of guys lurking these pages, for every 5 or 10 replies to a review, there's probably a couple hundred guys taking note and actually wanting / demanding to repeat the same experience you wrote about.
These girls are women before they are prostitutes and sometimes they let themselves go and cross a line doing stuff with you they wouldn't usually do, so do you write about that? What if guys want it and that same girl says no? How many angry guys do you think will show the girl the ISG report? What are the chances she will deny doing this at all?
Also, as I said earlier, when you write a glowing review about a girl, chances are hundreds of ISG readers will now go after her and you might miss your chance to repeat. When you do get a chance to see her again she will be tired and might not have the same bubbly / GFE / pornstar service she once had.
It is a pickle, writing a report, it's not as easy as it seems when you're in it for the long game and expect to repeat.
Do you report the girl on the day of the encounter? Or do you wait until you're back home so as to make sure you're able to repeat if needed?
Maybe I ramble too much but these are questions that interest me, more so than which girl charges 1 K for ST and lets you do Anal (just an example). However I understand that info is VITAL to a forum like this.
We used to have a thread for reports of distinction, for exceptional and informative reports. Maybe we can have stickies with only places and prices.
Axel Heyst
01-05-22, 17:11
Nic, I hear what you are saying. This is why I never name names or post pictures in my reports on an open forum. I report on my experiences, yes, my MO (more or less), and I name all the bars where I had both good and bad experiences, but after that it is up to each individual to make it happen.
But some guys start off with various bad attitudes or have poor strategies in place, so they are much less likely to have as good a time as myself in the same bar with the same girls. Other guys, who speak the lingo and have good attitudes can and will do a whole lot better. As the old proverb says, 'You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.'
And then there are the girls; As you so rightly point out, they are not automatons. They are first and foremost woman. That said, they are in a service industry, so I appreciate an establishment that maintains a consistent minimum level of performance, and as I said above, I name those establishments in my field reports. But, there are a scores of reasons why a girl might perform better for one guy than another. That's were having a good attitude plus knowing what signs to look for before making a final selection pays off big time in the long run.
My combined #1 tip for enjoyers of BBFSCIP in Thailand is the following:
1) Freelancers never ask for condoms, at least the younger ones.
2) Never bring up condoms when communicating with them (e. G. On Tinder / Thaifriendly). Only one brought it up out of 12-15 girls. Good thing you have a vasectomy.
NicFrenchy
01-06-22, 05:37
My combined #1 tip for enjoyers of BBFSCIP in Thailand is the following:..... Good thing you have a vasectomy.That made me chuckle. I remember a girl doing an interview on the Bangkok post years back and explaining that she was a Freelancer because she could not work in an establishment. They tested often and since she had AIDS, she wouldn't be able to pass the tests. She also mentioned that all her customers were having sex with her without condom and she didn't care because it's not her job to care for other's wellbeing.
Food For thought.
My combined #1 tip for enjoyers of BBFSCIP in Thailand is the following:
1) Freelancers never ask for condoms, at least the younger ones.
2) Never bring up condoms when communicating with them (e. G. On Tinder / Thaifriendly). Only one brought it up out of 12-15 girls. Good thing you have a vasectomy.Thanks for the uplifting report and tip with a very happy ending for, well, almost all of us.
However, you and I must be meeting and choosing radically different Freelancers in Thailand. Or maybe I am choosing them while they are in a more elevated state of awake and alert sobriety. Or it could simply be that I am too disgusting and hideously ugly for more than about 20%, one out of five, Freelancers who I don't vet for BBFS+CIP upfront before I take or meet them in person to agree to it for any amount of money in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode.
That is about my rate of success in getting BBFS+CIP with all hookers in Thailand whether they are Freelancers online, in a bar, in a club or on the street, go-go dancers, beer bar girls or massage shop girls, girls in their early 20's to ladies in their 30's and 40's, whether it was during normal times or during the past two years of supposedly "dire economic" conditions. It doesn't matter. For the past nearly 10 years of living here, speaking fairly competent Thai, smiling a lot and not being the least bit stingy with my money, only about 1 out of 5, roughly 20% of the girls I take to my room in "go with the flow" mode will relatively easily go along with BBFS+CIP with me instead of blocking me with a clear verbal and / or body language resistance to BBFS+CIP. That means from outright declaring "No" followed by a "No condom, no sex" lecture to blocking their pussy at the point of penetration when nothing was said, to wiggling away and rolling out of bed to avoid it.
Then again, I am not really a drinker and don't take any other mind-altering drugs. So maybe I am also in enough of an elevated state of awake and alert sobriety to recognize a verbal "No" when I hear one and a body language "No" when I see one. Who knows. I should also mention that I have had a vasectomy, tell the girls about it in Thai and offer to show any of the resistant ones a recent negative, normal HIV / STD blood check document from Thai Red Cross. It still doesn't matter or change my overall 20% success rate in "go with the flow" mode.
In fact, even about 20% of the Thai hookers I vet thoroughly upfront for BBFS+CIP before I meet them from dating sites, pay their barfine and take them from a bar or walk off with them from a club or the street will still hit me with something like, "No, I misunderstood!" in the bed. In which case, I will abort the mission, thank them for their time, give them some small token of payment I deem fair, thank them for their time and wave bye at the door. Virtually none of those types change their minds and return to renegotiate money or terms before they step into the elevator and disappear with nothing more than an additional 100-200 baht taxi fare in their purse.
Now, I am not complaining. I am just offering my personal experience here with the Thai girls I meet and choose, comparing notes and tips with the assessment you made from your experience in your post.
Actually, for all of the past almost 10 years of living here my dance card has been quite full with girls eager to have and repeat BBFS+CIP with me, pester me for it day and night, from adorably cute ones, hot and sexy ones, young ones, middling ones, older ones and, sure, some who most of us would consider hard cases one takes more out of charity than anything remotely like desire. So there are still plenty of more than doable, even quite objectively lovely and desirable Thai girls here who apparently can look past my disgusting hideousness to endure BBFS+CIP with me any time I want anyway.
But is it anywhere close to "all" or "most" on a first or even second meeting? No way. Not for me, that is.
Explorer8939
01-06-22, 12:25
I am being subjected to an attempt by a bargirl to be my bargirlfriend (not the same as a girlfriend). A bargirlfriend's aim is barfines, drinks and cash gifts. She will be your girlfriend in the bar and when you barfine her. One standard tactic is to post on Facebook her love for an anonymous male, which is seen by her 100's of Facebook friends, but you are supposed to think it's about you.
The upside is enthusiastic sex, which will last until she realizes I am not a chump.
Unless you are willing to part with a lot of cash, it's best to ignore the attack. That would make her Thai boyfriend sad, though.
A lot of guys can't distinguish between attempts at a real relationship and a bar relationship, and the result is great sadness and loss of your savings. You sometimes see posts about chumps who buy gold baht for bargirls during their 2 weeks in Thailand, or the girls will brag about some guy throwing cash at them. Don't be that guy.
That made me chuckle. I remember a girl doing an interview on the Bangkok post years back and explaining that she was a Freelancer because she could not work in an establishment. They tested often and since she had AIDS, she wouldn't be able to pass the tests. She also mentioned that all her customers were having sex with her without condom and she didn't care because it's not her job to care for other's wellbeing.
Food For thought.It may be worthwhile to contemplate that many of her customers may already have AIDS and could not care less for her wellbeing as well.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-07-22, 04:36
I am being subjected to an attempt by a bargirl to be my bargirlfriend (not the same as a girlfriend). A bargirlfriend's aim is barfines, drinks and cash gifts. She will be your girlfriend in the bar and when you barfine her. One standard tactic is to post on Facebook her love for an anonymous male, which is seen by her 100's of Facebook friends, but you are supposed to think it's about you.
The upside is enthusiastic sex, which will last until she realizes I am not a chump.
Unless you are willing to part with a lot of cash, it's best to ignore the attack. That would make her Thai boyfriend sad, though.
A lot of guys can't distinguish between attempts at a real relationship and a bar relationship, and the result is great sadness and loss of your savings. You sometimes see posts about chumps who buy gold baht for bargirls during their 2 weeks in Thailand, or the girls will brag about some guy throwing cash at them. Don't be that guy.Every guy will be "that guy" sometime in their Thai punting.
You don't learn it if you don't earn it.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-07-22, 04:49
Thanks for the uplifting report and tip with a very happy ending for, well, almost all of us.
However, you and I must be meeting and choosing radically different Freelancers in Thailand. Or maybe I am choosing them while they are in a more elevated state of awake and alert sobriety. Or it could simply be that I am too disgusting and hideously ugly for more than about 20%, one out of five, Freelancers who I don't vet for BBFS+CIP upfront before I take or meet them in person to agree to it for any amount of money in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode.
That is about my rate of success in getting BBFS+CIP with all hookers in Thailand whether they are Freelancers online, in a bar, in a club or on the street, go-go dancers, beer bar girls or massage shop girls, girls in their early 20's to ladies in their 30's and 40's, whether it was during normal times or during the past two years of supposedly "dire economic" conditions. It doesn't matter. For the past nearly 10 years of living here, speaking fairly competent Thai, smiling a lot and not being the least bit stingy with my money, only about 1 out of 5, roughly 20% of the girls I take to my room in "go with the flow" mode will relatively easily go along with BBFS+CIP with me instead of blocking me with a clear verbal and / or body language resistance to BBFS+CIP. That means from outright declaring "No" followed by a "No condom, no sex" lecture to blocking their pussy at the point of penetration when nothing was said, to wiggling away and rolling out of bed to avoid it.
Then again, I am not really a drinker and don't take any other mind-altering drugs. So maybe I am also in enough of an elevated state of awake and alert sobriety to recognize a verbal "No" when I hear one and a body language "No" when I see one. Who knows. I should also mention that I have had a vasectomy, tell the girls about it in Thai and offer to show any of the resistant ones a recent negative, normal HIV / STD blood check document from Thai Red Cross. It still doesn't matter or change my overall 20% success rate in "go with the flow" mode.
In fact, even about 20% of the Thai hookers I vet thoroughly upfront for BBFS+CIP before I meet them from dating sites, pay their barfine and take them from a bar or walk off with them from a club or the street will still hit me with something like, "No, I misunderstood!" in the bed. In which case, I will abort the mission, thank them for their time, give them some small token of payment I deem fair, thank them for their time and wave bye at the door. Virtually none of those types change their minds and return to renegotiate money or terms before they step into the elevator and disappear with nothing more than an additional 100-200 baht taxi fare in their purse.Interesting, in over 5 years living here, and traveling all over Thailand, I find the figure for me much higher, probably around 50%plus.
And most surprisingly, my highest figure by location would be Hua Hin, close to 100% there.
Bangkok and Pattaya would be 70-80%.
Phuket where I have punted by far the most would be lowest, especially in Patong at maybe 25%, but Rawai / Chalong which is my home turf is back at 50% plus.
I am putting my success down to being a "handsome man", being generous and polite in the bar or meet (massage, etc), having a good game plan, and reading likely prospects well.
I am cut (vasectomy a long time ago), come across as very clean cut and safe, and know when "a no is a no."
I don't overpay at all, but always reward a girl who loses control her "no's" to her desires during a session.
As I said above, have a game, know what you seek, and pick your prospects well.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-07-22, 04:54
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.
At the time, it was also pretty hostile to newbs and their "stupid" or "Repetitive" questions, but thankfully, there was always a few guys willing to help out and I will always be grateful to them. GIOTTO, OTH, MICK LICKER, DUNIAWALA, 1 BALL, PITA123 to name a few (names from another set of decades, I know).
My HUGE advantage was that I was coming to Bangkok to work, I had time to discover everything, trial and error type of thing and so I did.
I tried places and reported on them, shared with everyone so that a few people would benefit (the same way other guy's reviews helped me).
However, P4 P is not simple and I quickly learned it was NOT OK to write descriptive reviews anymore. Several reasons:
1. Pricing is not always fixed and the price a girl charges for Customer A isn't the same as the one she charges Customer be:
A) She discriminates by skin color...Nice thoughtful reply at NicFrenchy.
I agree with everything I read.
If you ever get to Phuket drop me a PM.
I think we would have an interesting chat over a beer or two.
Or would the preference be for a nice red.
SidewaysOnTour
01-08-22, 03:01
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.
At the time, it was also pretty hostile to newbs and their "stupid" or "Repetitive" questions, but thankfully, there was always a few guys willing to help out and I will always be grateful to them. GIOTTO, OTH, MICK LICKER, DUNIAWALA, 1 BALL, PITA123 to name a few (names from another set of decades, I know).
My HUGE advantage was that I was coming to Bangkok to work, I had time to discover everything, trial and error type of thing and so I did.
I tried places and reported on them, shared with everyone so that a few people would benefit (the same way other guy's reviews helped me).
However, P4 P is not simple and I quickly learned it was NOT OK to write descriptive reviews anymore. Several reasons:
1. Pricing is not always fixed and the price a girl charges for Customer A isn't the same as the one she charges Customer be:
A) She discriminates by skin color..Well said.
Interesting, in over 5 years living here, and traveling all over Thailand, I find the figure for me much higher, probably around 50%plus.
And most surprisingly, my highest figure by location would be Hua Hin, close to 100% there.
Bangkok and Pattaya would be 70-80%.
Phuket where I have punted by far the most would be lowest, especially in Patong at maybe 25%, but Rawai / Chalong which is my home turf is back at 50% plus.
I am putting my success down to being a "handsome man", being generous and polite in the bar or meet (massage, etc), having a good game plan, and reading likely prospects well..Yes, interesting. For me it is at least a 60% or more success rate in getting a "Yes" response to "boom boom no condom, ok mai?" when I ask them directly, upfront and face to face in the bar, the club or on the street before I pay a barfine or take them. Far better than my 20% or so success rate in avoiding a verbal or physical resistance to it in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode. That's why I much prefer the former over the latter.
It kind of goes like this for me; Getting a Yes response is non existent if I am only texting such a question online on TF or Tinder. And it is definitely not possible on an escort site or anything like Fiwfans where a third party, pimp or clerk is actually doing the chatting for the girl or where the girl knows a third party will at some point read the question and her response.
My success rate in getting a Yes improves to at least 30-40% if I have engaged in a video chat with the online girl. It hits the 60%+ level if I am meeting her in person. Same as other venues or options.
And I am mostly only talking about Bangkok. My success rate in getting a Yes response from the girls I approach face to face, live and in person or in "go with the flow" mode in Pattaya is so low I haven't bothered to seriously monger there other than 1-2 tries per day or night over a typical three day visit for years, not even during these supposedly "dire economic" times.
And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.
HorseTrader
01-08-22, 15:29
And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.My need for BBFSCIP was only for my second pop of the day, but as I age I worry that I may need it all the time. If I get a "yes" on the street or in the bar, I get about 50% unreminded compliance in the room, 30% compliance with reminders, and 20% refusal even when prior agreement was reached. Regarding my first pop of the day, if I struggle it is not uncommon for her to pull off the condom and just continue BB. Requirements for condom goes way down on second and third dates.
Most of my experience is in Bangkok and Samui, and I see no major difference in compliance rates based on location. Perhaps somewhat better compliance in certain corners of Samui where I’m a known face. My experiences in Aonang, Phuket, and Pattaya have been too few to assign compliance percentages based on location.
I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.This was exactly my point when I said that the OP should read dozens of pages first, and then come back to us if he still has specific questions. That is OK.
What is not OK for a noob is to post very general questions, and then expect detailed answers. It undermines the purpose of the forum if all noobs post the same questions over and over again, and get the same answers over and over again.
My combined #1 tip for enjoyers of BBFSCIP in Thailand is the following:
1) Freelancers never ask for condoms, at least the younger ones.
2) Never bring up condoms when communicating with them (e. G. On Tinder / Thaifriendly). Only one brought it up out of 12-15 girls. Good thing you have a vasectomy.Re 1: This is not my experience. When I still had 'going with the flow' as my MO (nowadays I always ask for BBFS beforehand), I think at least 50% of the girls insisted on condoms. Although I agree that this percentage was lower among the younger ones (up to 22/23 yo, approximately).
Re 2: I guess you were just lucky that only one brought it up. Or the girls needed a customer badly.
But as soon as the situation has returned to normal, and punters are flooding Thailand again, the girls will most lilely bring it up more often.
I think having a vasectomy is not important in Thailand, as the majority of the girls take birth control pills. The girls that insist on condoms are usually not scared of getting pregnant, they are only scared of STDs.
Franciscass
01-09-22, 15:31
Questions of that nature clutter the forum, waste bandwidth Is it not more a waste of bandwidth complaining about somebody wasting bandwidth, even more so this post about somebody complaining about somebody wasting bandwidth.
Franciscass
01-09-22, 15:34
MSYZYGIES and probably another handle by now.Not sure about that, otherwise the forum would be cluttered with posts on the horror of fake noses.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-plans-impose-tourist-fee-105427449.html
This is to offset the loss of revenue due to covid.
NicFrenchy
01-13-22, 01:41
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-plans-impose-tourist-fee-105427449.html
This is to offset the loss of revenue due to covid.You won't even see it. It will be added to the ticket price.
Banana Boi
01-14-22, 05:37
With pork price going up in Thailand that may not be pork that you are eating at all, rather crocodile.
Axel Heyst
01-14-22, 14:58
With pork price going up in Thailand that may not be pork that you are eating at all, rather crocodile.Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.
HorseTrader
01-14-22, 17:37
Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.The mystery meat I was served from a food cart on Sukhumvit Soi 13 could have been croc, it certainly wasn't the pork as advertised. Very tough, but not a terrible taste. Didn't go back for more.
Mr Enternational
01-14-22, 17:52
Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.My best friend is from Texas was just preparing to smoke one last week when I was at his restaurant.
Kiev Freak
01-14-22, 20:16
Yes, interesting. For me it is at least a 60% or more success rate in getting a "Yes" response to "boom boom no condom, ok mai?" when I ask them directly, upfront and face to face in the bar, the club or on the street before I pay a barfine or take them. Far better than my 20% or so success rate in avoiding a verbal or physical resistance to it in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode. That's why I much prefer the former over the latter.
It kind of goes like this for me; Getting a Yes response is non existent if I am only texting such a question online on TF or Tinder. And it is definitely not possible on an escort site or anything like Fiwfans where a third party, pimp or clerk is actually doing the chatting for the girl or where the girl knows a third party will at some point read the question and her response.
My success rate in getting a Yes improves to at least 30-40% if I have engaged in a video chat with the online girl. It hits the 60%+ level if I am meeting her in person. Same as other venues or options.
And I am mostly only talking about Bangkok. My success rate in getting a Yes response from the girls I approach face to face, live and in person or in "go with the flow" mode in Pattaya is so low I haven't bothered to seriously monger there other than 1-2 tries per day or night over a typical three day visit for years, not even during these supposedly "dire economic" times.
And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.
Good information. Do you directly invite girls to your condo or first meet with them in malls, cafes etc? You offer BBFS when girls come to your condo or outside,at cafe etc ?
Good information. Do you directly invite girls to your condo or first meet with them in malls, cafes etc? You offer BBFS when girls come to your condo or outside,at cafe etc ?In the 2-3 years pre Covid I was mostly an online dating site punter; ThaiFriendly, Tinder and in the earlier years ThaiCupid. About 80% online and 20% go-go bars, occasionally just meet them in restaurants, malls, on bts / mrt trains. I rarely took girls from beer bars. Only once or twice took a massage shop girl in the past 5-6 years.
Of course, during the Covid closures new girls were practically all met online, only sometimes walking around.
Then when beer bars began to reopen a few months ago, it was fun and a relief to get back out there in the world to shop for new girls in person.
There are some exceptions. But, generally, if it is strictly for pay and clearly understood as such from the beginning, I will state my essential requirements upfront as soon as possible, including "boom boom no condom" but, optimally, only after a face-to-face meeting or a video chat for the improvement in getting that Yes response as outlined in my post you quoted.
My agreeing to take them from a bar, club or off the street is generally contingent on them agreeing upfront and with a clear and unambiguous Yes to what I want in the room such as kissing with our tongues touching, "boom boom no condom", a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish, whatever.
If no money has been mentioned by either of us, I just invite them over and am then fine with the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" method. Why not? Then if it turns out she is not going to go with the flow into anything of sexual value to me, I will likely just thank her for her time, say nice meeting you and bye. Sure, if she claims not to have money for a ride back to her room, I'll probably give her 100 baht or so to help, depending on how far we went with the flow before we hit a wall.
Kiev Freak
01-15-22, 06:36
In the 2-3 years pre Covid I was mostly an online dating site punter; ThaiFriendly, Tinder and in the earlier years ThaiCupid. About 80% online and 20% go-go bars, occasionally just meet them in restaurants, malls, on bts / mrt trains. I rarely took girls from beer bars. Only once or twice took a massage shop girl in the past 5-6 years.
Of course, during the Covid closures new girls were practically all met online, only sometimes walking around.
Then when beer bars began to reopen a few months ago, it was fun and a relief to get back out there in the world to shop for new girls in person.
There are some exceptions. But, generally, if it is strictly for pay and clearly understood as such from the beginning, I will state my essential requirements upfront as soon as possible, including "boom boom no condom" but, optimally, only after a face-to-face meeting or a video chat for the improvement in getting that Yes response as outlined in my post you quoted.
My agreeing to take them from a bar, club or off the street is generally contingent on them agreeing upfront and with a clear and unambiguous Yes to what I want in the room such as kissing with our tongues touching, "boom boom no condom", a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish, whatever.
If no money has been mentioned by either of us, I just invite them over and am then fine with the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" method. Why not? Then if it turns out she is not going to go with the flow into anything of sexual value to me, I will likely just thank her for her time, say nice meeting you and bye. Sure, if she claims not to have money for a ride back to her room, I'll probably give her 100 baht or so to help, depending on how far we went with the flow before we hit a wall.How to say kissing with tongue in Thai langue?
I say boom boom may say tung yang for BBFS and CIM in mouth I use duut ham gin nam. But don't know how to say kissing with tongue. They usually don't understand it or pretend so.
SportMongr
01-15-22, 07:16
In the 2-3 years pre Covid I was mostly an online dating site punter; ThaiFriendly, Tinder and in the earlier years ThaiCupid. About 80% online and 20% go-go bars, occasionally just meet them in restaurants, malls, on bts / mrt trains. I rarely took girls from beer bars. Only once or twice took a massage shop girl in the past 5-6 years.
Of course, during the Covid closures new girls were practically all met online, only sometimes walking around.
Then when beer bars began to reopen a few months ago, it was fun and a relief to get back out there in the world to shop for new girls in person.
There are some exceptions. But, generally, if it is strictly for pay and clearly understood as such from the beginning, I will state my essential requirements upfront as soon as possible, including "boom boom no condom" but, optimally, only after a face-to-face meeting or a video chat for the improvement in getting that Yes response as outlined in my post you quoted.
My agreeing to take them from a bar, club or off the street is generally contingent on them agreeing upfront and with a clear and unambiguous Yes to what I want in the room such as kissing with our tongues touching, "boom boom no condom", a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish, whatever.
If no money has been mentioned by either of us, I just invite them over and am then fine with the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" method. Why not? Then if it turns out she is not going to go with the flow into anything of sexual value to me, I will likely just thank her for her time, say nice meeting you and bye. Sure, if she claims not to have money for a ride back to her room, I'll probably give her 100 baht or so to help, depending on how far we went with the flow before we hit a wall.You sound like a true pro. LOL. Now speaking for myself I'm 95% of the time wearing a rubber. The feeling sucks and chaffe is the worst after 2-3 x in a day but I never get the "Burn" when wearing the rubber. I have a bud who will not take a girl unless it's FSBB. His technique was always based on % and most went if he asked them up front and then gave a refined and battle sales pitch. Every time we took a trip to Land. He always caught something going BB. Always popping anti-virals. So my question. If you have a x% of going bareback with a girl which is common. What is the % of in a 12-15 day trip in the Land you end up itching and burning headed to the Pharmacy? LOL.
NicFrenchy
01-15-22, 08:12
He always caught something going BBWith all these girls having Thai boyfriends that only do them BB and CIP, you are bound to catch something. If you're lucky it's going to be benign, if not it's going to ba Herpes of Aids.
It's a Lottery, and based on pure luck, it's not really a numbers game. You could wear a rubber 9 times out of 10 and the only 1 time you don't. Bingo.
It's a risk.
You sound like a true pro. LOL. Now speaking for myself I'm 95% of the time wearing a rubber. The feeling sucks and chaffe is the worst after 2-3 x in a day but I never get the "Burn" when wearing the rubber. I have a bud who will not take a girl unless it's FSBB. His technique was always based on % and most went if he asked them up front and then gave a refined and battle sales pitch. Every time we took a trip to Land. He always caught something going BB. Always popping anti-virals. So my question. If you have a x% of going bareback with a girl which is common. What is the % of in a 12-15 day trip in the Land you end up itching and burning headed to the Pharmacy? LOL.All I can say is aside from that one dose of trichomoniasis I got from a GF about 47 years ago, from the thousands of prostitutes and hundreds of regular girls I have bareback fucked I have never experienced a burn, a drip, a weird discharge, an itch or, in fact, a common cold, the sniffles, the flu, a pink eye or, as of this writing, Covid.
I have been checked and tested for just about everything, comprehensive physical exams at Bumrungrad Hospital and all that, get an HIV and Syphilis blood check at Thai Red Cross every 2-3 months just out of courtesy in being able to show the negative results to anyone who wants to see it. Nothing.
Three or four times in the past couple of decades I did get a small surface skin abrasion on the side of my dick from a too aggressive cowgirl position rider the night before. Rubbing some non pharmaceutical regular moisturizing lotion like the kind made by Nivea and available in any ordinary market was the only thing required to clear that up in a day or two.
HorseTrader
01-15-22, 22:04
I have been checked and tested for just about everything, comprehensive physical exams at Bumrungrad Hospital and all that, get an HIV and Syphilis blood check at Thai Red Cross every 2-3 months just out of courtesy in being able to show the negative results to anyone who wants to see it. Nothing.
This paper addresses HIV transmission rates. For me, the take away point is to never get butt fucked.
https://www.catie.ca/sites/default/files/HIV-TRANSMISSION-RISK-EN.pdf
All I can say is aside from that one dose of trichomoniasis I got from a GF about 47 years ago, from the thousands of prostitutes and hundreds of regular girls I have bareback fucked I have never experienced a burn, a drip, a weird discharge, an itch or, in fact, a common cold, the sniffles, the flu, a pink eye or, as of this writing, Covid.And on the seventh day, you rested?
SL.
With all these girls having Thai boyfriends that only do them BB and CIP, you are bound to catch something. If you're lucky it's going to be benign, if not it's going to ba Herpes of Aids.
It's a Lottery, and based on pure luck, it's not really a numbers game. You could wear a rubber 9 times out of 10 and the only 1 time you don't. Bingo.
It's a risk.Everyone has to determine their own risk tolerance. An old person who doesn't have long to live may not have any worries about HIV. Even a young person in good health who catches the disease will likely live a full life with todays best meds. For some the danger of covid may be much more of a concern, as it tends to kill much more quickly & is so much easier to catch.
HIV is still a risk to condom wearers. Condoms can be defective inside of the package or be compromised in multiple ways afterwards.
Getting your sex worker gal tested negative for HIV before bareback sex with her provides more or less the same protection from HIV as condom use does. Circumcision affords an additional measure of protection vs HIV. As would using an effective long lasting lubricant such as fresh scented coconut oil which serves as a STI barrier. As an added bonus, Thai females love the smell. BTW, having had hundreds of BBFS sessions with Bangkok street ladies of the night, I remain HIV free.
To many bareback is a much more preferable and or pleasurable and or memorable experience. I mean who wants to have sex with a condom when you can have sex with a woman. Might as well stay home, save endless travel related hassles, thousands in expenses, and use the hand or a TPE sex doll. At least that would be bareback and the sex would no doubt be better. Better also, I might add, than most no condom pay for play sessions.
Kiev Freak
01-16-22, 06:50
With all these girls having Thai boyfriends that only do them BB and CIP, you are bound to catch something. If you're lucky it's going to be benign, if not it's going to ba Herpes of Aids.
It's a Lottery, and based on pure luck, it's not really a numbers game. You could wear a rubber 9 times out of 10 and the only 1 time you don't. Bingo.
It's a risk.
I take prep (truvada) daily mate. And have vaccine for hepatitis a and b.
But for other stuffs such as gonorroe and cladimia I don't take anything. Any recommendations for Nasty stuffs other than HIV?
This paper addresses HIV transmission rates. For me, the take away point is to never get butt fucked.
https://www.catie.ca/sites/default/files/HIV-TRANSMISSION-RISK-EN.pdf.Yes, although I know for a fact I have never been fucked in the butt, never shared a needle, never gotten a blood transfusion and never engaged in the kind of blood-letting, skin tearing sexual rituals some Sub Saharan African cultures engage in, the girl I have just met can't know that, even if she knew how astronomically low the chances are she would even meet an HIV-positive heterosexual male much less have sex with him enough times to present a reasonable risk of getting infected herself.
So I stop by Thai Red Cross and get the 1 hour, 200 baht test for it every 2-3 months in case someone wants to see my test result document.
BTW, since the topic of the HIV transmission inhibiting drug PrEP was mentioned, I can also report that not once has the various Thai Red Cross counselors who hand me my negative test result document behind closed doors ever suggested or recommended I take that drug.
I know PrEP is available at the Thai Red Cross testing clinic I go to. I think you can get it practically for free there. And in the little interview the counselors conduct before they give you the test result, I reply that I have multiple female sexual partners, no regular girlfriend or wife and never wear a condom during sexual intercourse.
Yet not one time in the dozens of interviews has the counselor said anything about perhaps I should start taking PrEP or even mentioned it.
Just sayin'.
Sorry if this has been asked before but are some ladyboys posting as female? I never used these dating apps before but some of these girls I think can pass as kathoey. TIA.
Explorer8939
01-19-22, 12:44
One of the traps guys fall into is to get hooked into a relationship with a bargirl. My advice to anyone in a mongering paradise like Pattaya is to stay solo. I had an off and on again relationship with a bargirl for years. When we were together, we were both frustrated, me because I knew there were plenty of other ladies to fuck, and she because she could make a lot more money alone. I finally pulled the plug on her earlier this month, and she has hooked a guy who gives her a salary but she only sees him in the day, and then she can see other customers at night.
Meanwhile, I am traveling in Brazil with her twin sister, but will detach when we return to Thailand. She wants 2 nights a week when we get back, which is okay. I also have a bargirlfriend who wants one night a week to consummate our eternal love. That gives me 4 nights a week to sample the rest of Pattaya.
I plan to take short trips outside of Thailand when possible. Most ladies are dying to go Inter. However, my advice is not to go Inter with someone you have not traveled with before. Do an overnighter in Bangkok first, then maybe a few days in Chiang Mai or Phuket, don't risk an international trip with a new lady. She may have a Thai boyfriend who won't let her travel, which you won't know if you don't go on trips with her previous to international travel.
As always, if you repeat with a bargirl, don't go with other ladies in her bar, unless you end your "relationship."
As a long term resident in Pattaya, I have to be careful of crossing any lady, even if it means paying her off. There are only a couple of ladies who I have ghosted, and both provoked me by giving me goodbye rants.
Banana Boi
01-19-22, 20:47
She wants 2 nights a week when we get back, which is okay. I also have a bargirlfriend who wants one night a week to consummate our eternal love. That gives me 4 nights a week to sample the rest of Pattaya.It's your time you don't have to commit to any time with a girl even if she is a Freebie. When you are feeling lazy or don't feel like hitting the clubs on a given night, you call her to hook up. She doesn't dictate what you do, you do! A girl is lucky that we even consider being with them or have them on our Line.
SportMongr
01-20-22, 01:29
With all these girls having Thai boyfriends that only do them BB and CIP, you are bound to catch something. If you're lucky it's going to be benign, if not it's going to ba Herpes of Aids.
It's a Lottery, and based on pure luck, it's not really a numbers game. You could wear a rubber 9 times out of 10 and the only 1 time you don't. Bingo.
It's a risk.Yup you're 100% correct. During some of my trips I tried to have a few BB sessions or did just when I was over exerted and struggling with a lady. Going 9/10 never worked. I remember often getting lucky or unlucky on that 1/10 BB session and getting a burn a few days later. Condoms suck Burns suck. Herpes suck. Can't imagine catching HIV. That would seriously suck. Guess you got to pick your poison.
Explorer8939
01-20-22, 01:36
It's your time you don't have to commit to any time with a girl even if she is a Freebie. When you are feeling lazy or don't feel like hitting the clubs on a given night, you call her to hook up. She doesn't dictate what you do, you do! A girl is lucky that we even consider being with them or have them on our Line.I am okay with one night a week with the lady I am with now, I wouldn't mind a regular night with her. She's flexible, though, and I can cancel her if someone hotter comes along.
I am hoping that my bargirl friend only wants one night a week, in the sense that I don't have to worry about her the other 6 nights. The problem with a bargirl friend is that sometimes they insist you don't go with any other lady, while they are free to go with other customers.
SportMongr
01-20-22, 01:37
All I can say is aside from that one dose of trichomoniasis I got from a GF about 47 years ago, from the thousands of prostitutes and hundreds of regular girls I have bareback fucked I have never experienced a burn, a drip, a weird discharge, an itch or, in fact, a common cold, the sniffles, the flu, a pink eye or, as of this writing, Covid.
I have been checked and tested for just about everything, comprehensive physical exams at Bumrungrad Hospital and all that, get an HIV and Syphilis blood check at Thai Red Cross every 2-3 months just out of courtesy in being able to show the negative results to anyone who wants to see it. Nothing.
Three or four times in the past couple of decades I did get a small surface skin abrasion on the side of my dick from a too aggressive cowgirl position rider the night before. Rubbing some non pharmaceutical regular moisturizing lotion like the kind made by Nivea and available in any ordinary market was the only thing required to clear that up in a day or two.Congratulations dude! You have the ultimate immune system built to be a Falang in Thailand! Count your lucky stars that is not normal. Some people win the lotto as well. Doesn't mean everyone will.
Mr Enternational
01-20-22, 03:25
Congratulations dude! You have the ultimate immune system built to be a Falang in Thailand! Count your lucky stars that is not normal. Some people win the lotto as well. Doesn't mean everyone will.So maybe that is why I have not gotten Covid. Only thing I have ever gotten was crabs when I was delivering Dominos Pizza in college. I guess I won the good immune system instead of the lotto.
This had me in splits.
And on the seventh day, you rested?.
Sorry if this has been asked before but are some ladyboys posting as female? I never used these dating apps before but some of these girls I think can pass as kathoey. TIA.Yes there are a very small number who lie, mostly the post-ops. But most ladyboys are honest about it as they can find customers who are interested.
This is a general story that covers all of Thailand so I'll put it here. Ran into a young guy who quit his job, came to Thailand with little savings and 'doesn't give the girls money' but they'll come over and fuck him for free. He's one of those 'butterflys' they call them here, girls get tired of sex with older foreigners and want a younger one. So they'll do their best to snag him, possibly try to keep him while still 'earning money'. Now what sets him apart is his view on prostitution, how bad it is that these women have no other option than to open their legs. A white knight? Thing is he wants to be a bar manager where the girls make their money and the bar money by opening their legs and his salary in turn would be paid for by the girls 'work'. Guys who pay understand what they are doing, its the nature of the beast. I did find it interesting how he viewed himself seeing 'working girls', he's not seeing non working girls. He'll then 'tip' a girl some money and tell her she should come to his condo later that night and then say 'I never paid her money for sex'. But the tip was 1000 baht.
This is a general story that covers all of Thailand so I'll put it here. Ran into a young guy who quit his job, came to Thailand with little savings and 'doesn't give the girls money' but they'll come over and fuck him for free. He's one of those 'butterflys' they call them here, girls get tired of sex with older foreigners and want a younger one. So they'll do their best to snag him, possibly try to keep him while still 'earning money'. Now what sets him apart is his view on prostitution, how bad it is that these women have no other option than to open their legs. A white knight? Thing is he wants to be a bar manager where the girls make their money and the bar money by opening their legs and his salary in turn would be paid for by the girls 'work'. Guys who pay understand what they are doing, its the nature of the beast. I did find it interesting how he viewed himself seeing 'working girls', he's not seeing non working girls. He'll then 'tip' a girl some money and tell her she should come to his condo later that night and then say 'I never paid her money for sex'. But the tip was 1000 baht.I've never paid a girl to come home with me. Paid plenty to leave in the morning though. 😁.
I've never paid a girl to come home with me. Paid plenty to leave in the morning though. 😁.Charly Sheen ("I never pay a woman for sex. I pay her to leave in the morning").
NicFrenchy
01-22-22, 10:43
But most ladyboys are honest about it as they can find customers who are interested.Really? Ask the LBs that hang around lower sukhumvit at 2 or 3 am. They will prey on drunk customers and in the room say they have their period and can only do BJ. I bet 9/10 times they don't get found out.
It's fair game, it's up to us the punters to protect ourselves. I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that 9/10 customers don't register their "Lady" of the night at the hotel lobby. Dangerous, as they could end up with some valuables missing when they wake up, alone and with a massive hangover.
Thailand is usually very safe for mongering, but there are exceptions.
Member #4753
01-22-22, 12:34
Really? Ask the LBs that hang around lower sukhumvit at 2 or 3 am. They will prey on drunk customers and in the room say they have their period and can only do BJ. I bet 9/10 times they don't get found out.
It's fair game, it's up to us the punters to protect ourselves. I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that 9/10 customers don't register their "Lady" of the night at the hotel lobby. Dangerous, as they could end up with some valuables missing when they wake up, alone and with a massive hangover.
Thailand is usually very safe for mongering, but there are exceptions.Most LB's are generally well behaved but there are some that will definitely screw you over if you are drunk or just green.
If you are very drunk some will try and go through your pockets while pretending to feel you up on the street.
PedroMorales
01-22-22, 13:14
Local Thai man chops head off British farang as "the music was too loud". I don't like loud music either but that is extreme even for "only in Thailand."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10429893/British-tourist-49-DECAPITATED-SICKLE-Thailand-local-man-attacked-him.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed
Mr Enternational
01-22-22, 14:38
Most LB's are generally well behaved but there are some that will definitely screw you over if you are drunk or just green.
If you are very drunk some will try and go through your pockets while pretending to feel you up on the street.What do you mean pretending? You don't think they can do both at the same time?
Member #4753
01-22-22, 15:41
What do you mean pretending? You don't think they can do both at the same time?If they jerk you off and take money out of your pocket it sounds a lot like a consenting hand job to me.
Charly Sheen ("I never pay a woman for sex. I pay her to leave in the morning").So technically its not mongering.
So technically its not mongering.Yes, if we really want to delude ourselves that the girls are so horny to fuck old fat beer bellied bald guys for free! And we have to pay them to leave! Sure.
Explorer8939
01-22-22, 19:03
Yes, if we really want to delude ourselves that the girls are so horny to fuck old fat beer bellied bald guys for free! And we have to pay them to leave! Sure.Over the summer, I conducted multiple experiments on this subject. I found that with sufficient tequila, 80% of Bargirls find dicks irresistible. Note that I used real tequila for my experiment, not bar tequila.
A good number of them literally begged for it, and some cried if I declined. Some would negotiate, asking for just 5 minutes.
Others didn't bother to ask, they just climbed on while I was occupied with another lady.
Yeah, I was astounded.
One lady offered anal sex in addition to regular sex. She got married the next day to some Thai man.
I tried the same experiment last night, here in Brazil with a Thai lady, with similar results.
There is nothing special about me, you will probably have the same results if you repeat the same experiment. That's how Science works.
Over the summer, I conducted multiple experiments on this subject. I found that with sufficient tequila, 80% of Bargirls find dicks irresistible. Note that I used real tequila for my experiment, not bar tequila.
A good number of them literally begged for it, and some cried if I declined. Some would negotiate, asking for just 5 minutes.
Others didn't bother to ask, they just climbed on while I was occupied with another lady.
Yeah, I was astounded.
One lady offered anal sex in addition to regular sex. She got married the next day to some Thai man.
I tried the same experiment last night, here in Brazil with a Thai lady, with similar results.
There is nothing special about me, you will probably have the same results if you repeat the same experiment. That's how Science works. LOL no, there is nothing special about you. I think the 'scientific' conclusion here is that 80% of bar girls find tequila irresistible, and as soon as they have had enough tequila they find dicks irresistable.
Explorer8939
01-23-22, 08:46
LOL no, there is nothing special about you. I think the 'scientific' conclusion here is that 80% of bar girls find tequila irresistible, and as soon as they have had enough tequila they find dicks irresistable.You are absolutely correct.
NicFrenchy
01-23-22, 11:39
LOL no, there is nothing special about you. I think the 'scientific' conclusion here is that 80% of bar girls find tequila irresistible, and as soon as they have had enough tequila they find dicks irresistable.Not just Bar girls, I'd say most women do with sufficient alcohol.
Yes, if we really want to delude ourselves that the girls are so horny to fuck old fat beer bellied bald guys for free! And we have to pay them to leave! Sure.There you go, bursting my bubble.
LOL no, there is nothing special about you. I think the 'scientific' conclusion here is that 80% of bar girls find tequila irresistible, and as soon as they have had enough tequila they find dicks irresistable.Tequila? Hmmmm. I must try that with hookers who come over. I usually offer them wine.
Yes, if we really want to delude ourselves that the girls are so horny to fuck old fat beer bellied bald guys for free! And we have to pay them to leave! Sure.Well, in the case of Mr. Sheen it is probably true. For the rest of us: not so much.
Explorer8939
01-27-22, 11:30
Thai ladies fuck different ways, depending on their workplace. Soi 6 ladies, for example, often go for the quick finish, trying to get you to cum as quickly as possible. If you like the long drawn out GFE type of sex, Soi 6 is probably not right for you.
Where ladies specialize in Long Time, you have a better chance at getting GFE, or at least a more "normal" fuck. Many of us have had wives or girlfriends back home who would be incensed if you finish in 2 minutes, they want the full ride, and some LT ladies will do that.
I am traveling with a Thai lady who specializes in the Dead Fish fuck, she just lies there. But, she has a bad knee, so her positions are limited, she has no sex drive, and doesn't do much to cooperate. On the other hand, she has a great ass. So it's a matter of positioning her so her ass is available as I pump her.
Unfortunately, my favorite lady worked on Soi 6 for a while, so she just tries to get me to finish fast. I am trying to get her out of that mode, but it's not easy.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-becomes-first-country-asia-181235747.html
To those who are already there: Have fun guys.
Axel Heyst
01-28-22, 15:17
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-becomes-first-country-asia-181235747.html
To those who are already there: Have fun guys.But the article further read: "Even with the new rule, some parts of the plant that contain more than 0. 2% by weight of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the chemical in marijuana that creates the sensation of being high, are still reportedly included on the list of illegal drugs. ".
So it is going to be a long wait before you can sit outside your favorite Soi 6 bar and smoke a doobie. Ha Ha.
Mr Enternational
01-28-22, 16:53
But the article further read: "Even with the new rule, some parts of the plant that contain more than 0. 2% by weight of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the chemical in marijuana that creates the sensation of being high, are still reportedly included on the list of illegal drugs. ".
So it is going to be a long wait before you can sit outside your favorite Soi 6 bar and smoke a doobie. Ha Ha.But how many cops are going to be walking around with test kits to see how much THC is contained in the joint someone is smoking?
Axel Heyst
01-28-22, 18:43
But how many cops are going to be walking around with test kits to see how much THC is contained in the joint someone is smoking?Quality refer contains more the 2% THC. Therefore I am assuming the new law is being enacted to allow for commercial mass production and utilization not personal consumption. If some Thai farmer wants to grow a few plants on his property for his own recreational purposes nothing will have changed, but if some farang is smoking a joint on Soi 6 the content of his joint can be easily tested and the farang could either be fined or incarcerated under the new proposed legislation. There are already places in Thailand and Cambodia where reefer is smoked publicly and the local police look the other way. I don't see this new law enlarging these grey, semi legal smoking zones. I could be wrong. Thai girls on reefer. What a wonderful idea!
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There are already places in Thailand and Cambodia where reefer is smoked publicly and the local police look the other way.I've heard about this before for Thailand in particular, but have no idea where these places would be. Could you enlighten me? Thanks.
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Banana Boi
01-30-22, 16:52
https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-injured-multiple-bomb-attacks-084802342.htmlAlways a danger when going to Southern Thailand.
There are already places in Thailand and Cambodia where reefer is smoked publicly and the local police look the other way.
I thought marijuana was legal in Cambodia. I remember being surprised on my first trip to PP with quite a few guys trying to sell me pot as I'm walking down the street.
Can someone remind me why sisha bars were banned in Thailand? Had lots of fun in them in 2015 with gogo girls after work.
Mr Enternational
01-30-22, 17:31
I thought marijuana was legal in Cambodia. I remember being surprised on my first trip to PP with quite a few guys trying to sell me pot as I'm walking down the street.I did too. Just walk over to the bar and buy a joint for $1. Maybe it is just tolerated but not legal.
Banana Boi
01-30-22, 17:45
Decided to Google.
"While it's true that marijuana is semi-legal in Cambodia, the exceptions to the laws against marijuana possession apply only to Cambodians, who are allowed to grow a few plants for cooking the herb is traditionally used in Khmer cuisine. The marijuana quality in Cambodia is quite poor compared to what's grown in the West, but it's undeniably cheap. Foreigners are rarely prosecuted for small amounts of marijuana, but expect to pay a few bribes if you do get caught "
I did too. Just walk over to the bar and buy a joint for $1. Maybe it is just tolerated but not legal.Its not legal, but no one cares. They just don't openly sell it at stands filled with weed like back in the day. You can buy weed from lots of bars and restaurants in Cambodia, just ask.
GuyBrusg1957
02-01-22, 06:46
Is there a good updated blog on Bangkok ever since the pandemic? Everything seems out of date with so many places closed.
Is there a good updated blog on Bangkok ever since the pandemic? Everything seems out of date with so many places closed.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports
Explorer8939
02-02-22, 14:24
Many people advise not to barfine a lady for more than 3 days, which is generally good advice. Two reasons for this: first, their attitudes generally get shittier the longer they are with you. Secondly, some pull the "I'm your girlfriend " crap after a day or two.
I have a hypothesis about this, which you guys can test: I believe that if the lady lives in a room above the bar, her attitude will be good for 3 days, and maybe longer. Unless she has a generally crappy attitude, nothing can help that. Why does it matter if she lives in a room in the bar? If she is paying money for her own room, it means she has a Thai boyfriend she lives with, and she starts to miss him pretty quickly.
Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.
As for the "I'm your girlfriend " crap, just ignore it.
StLouisMo2010
02-03-22, 05:34
A question to the Forum travelers who have planned and stayed in Thailand for 35 days instead of the 30 days granted to US passport holders. I have been to Thailand multiple times but have never had the luxury to stay for longer than 10 days or so, now retired, everyday is a Saturday. Thanks in advance of your experiences, and possible procedures. I do know where Immigration is in Jomtien near where I will be staying but it would be nice to get it over and done with in advance if possible.
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