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Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.
I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.
Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.
I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.
Opeabody, your post made me chuckle - thanks.
You say you're not worried about getting syphilis or HIV etc from barebacking, but you *are* worried about scabies (?!)
A little bit of scabies cream and a pubic shave will kill those pesky little crabs, my fiendish friend. Now I know you're just posting for a laugh.
PS - can I have the number of the 50 baht hotel please?
Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.
I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.
Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.
I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.
Oh fuckem! Ask the questions, someone will give you a straight answer.
Look, just stay at the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit Soi 2 if you can afford it. Stay the hell away from the Nana Entertainment Plaza and head straight to the Pegagus Club which is kind of behind Soi Cowboy (check the internet for directions) and have the time of your life.
What is the story at the Pegasus Club? I haven't heard of it...
Please enlighten
Harihara
What is the story at the Pegasus Club? I haven't heard of it...
Hari Hara,
The Pegasus Club is a "High-Class" men's member club, located in a side road of Sukhumvit Soi 23. On the same area you find the Narzissus Disco (Techno, House), same ownership.
Usually you have to be a member to get in there, but in the recent years they allowed visitors to enter, the last fee I heard about was THB 800,00 for only getting in there. The last time I was there is 4 years ago.
Their customers are usually Japanese, Korean and Thai, Farang only 20 %. They have lots of women working there, Karaoke rooms upstairs, the outfit of the club is quite exclusive.
After being member there for a year I realized that besides the interior, the ambience AND THE PRICES there is NOTHING special on that club. You get much better value for money in similar but smaller clubs and bars of Soi 33.
But if you are with business partners and want to impress them, and you want to make sure that the ladies can behave and communicate decently with your customers - this might be the place to go. But make sure that your company pays the bill.
Giotto
Is JW girl friendly or is there a join fee?
I could not find pegagus club but a pegasus club - are they the same?
Are there less expensive massage parlors - I would like to fuck as many times as possible with all differnt girls.Vantageman,
I consider this now to be a provocation.
If you found something about Pegasus Club you will know that it is not a massage parlour - but you will know how to use the Search Function.
Information about massage parlours and prices can be found in the Bangkok Massage Parlour thread. Information about hotels, girl friendly or not, can be found in the Bangkok Hotel thread.
And now: RTFF, Bestard :) !
Giotto
Retired Army
04-26-07, 08:07
Is JW girl friendly or is there a join fee?
I could not find pegagus club but a pegasus club - are they the same?
Are there less expensive massage parlors - I would like to fuck as many times as possible with all differnt girls.
You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.
Maybe it is Pegasus, after a few beers my spelling becomes creative.
The Pegasus is not a massage parlor and if you want to fuck for cheap it ain't going to happen there. But, if you want the best looking, highest class ladies and don't mind paying a premium for them...
Retired Army
04-26-07, 08:20
Hari Hara,
The Pegasus Club is a "High-Class" men's member club, located in a side road of Sukhumvit Soi 23. On the same area you find the Narzissus Disco (Techno, House), same ownership.
Usually you have to be a member to get in there, but in the recent years they allowed visitors to enter, the last fee I heard about was THB 800,00 for only getting in there. The last time I was there is 4 years ago.
Their customers are usually Japanese, Korean and Thai, Farang only 20 %. They have lots of women working there, Karaoke rooms upstairs, the outfit of the club is quite exclusive.
After being member there for a year I realized that besides the interior, the ambience AND THE PRICES there is NOTHING special on that club. You get much better value for money in similar but smaller clubs and bars of Soi 33.
But if you are with business partners and want to impress them, and you want to make sure that the ladies can behave and communicate decently with your customers - this might be the place to go. But make sure that your company pays the bill.
Giotto
That's pretty correct.
I was a member for a couple of years, and if I remember correctly, it was about 30,000 baht a year for the membership fee. But I considered it worth the money. I got X number of bottles of Jack Daniels and X number of bar fines. I don't remember how many, but it was generous.
Here is how I justified my membership: 30,000/12 = 2,500 baht a month. I could go into the Pegasus anytime I wanted, stay as long as I wanted and drink all I wanted for free, look at the girls at my leisure, pick the one I fancied and either take her upstairs or home with me. The best thing about the Pegasus is that I didn't have to fight off the girls always wanting to sit next to me telling them how much they loved me, what a hansome man I was, where did I come from, how long you stay Bangkok, etc, etc, etc... Unlike Soi 33 I didn't have to worry about them padding my bill because there never was one. Just a couple hundred baht for the tips for the bartenders, 20 for the men's room attendent and fifty for the doorman who got me a cab.
Non-members can get in and if the fee is only 800 THB then it is one hell of a bargain.
That's pretty correct.
I was a member for a couple of years, and if I remember correctly, it was about 30,000 baht a year for the membership fee. But I considered it worth the money. I got X number of bottles of Jack Daniels and X number of bar fines. I don't remember how many, but it was generous.
Here is how I justified my membership: 30,000/12 = 2,500 baht a month. I could go into the Pegasus anytime I wanted, stay as long as I wanted and drink all I wanted for free, look at the girls at my leisure, pick the one I fancied and either take her upstairs or home with me.
...
Non-members can get in and if the fee is only 800 THB then it is one hell of a bargain.Retired Army,
Hmm ... I am not sure that you understood my remark about the prices correctly. I found it expensive, compared to other Bangkok bars.
THB 30,000 for 7 bottles of liquor and 7 barfines (as I remember) may look generous for members. But to go there as a non-member, pay THB 800.00 only for getting in there, and then getting charged for drinks, lady drinks while a girl is sitting with you not longer than 20 - 30 min. , I would be surprised if somebody left there as a guest without having paid less than THB 4,000 - without additional costs for the ladies services upstairs, or bar fines to take one out.
Giotto
PS: I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .
You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.
In this situation, definitely prudent to make sure ahead of time it's not a ladyboy elephant.
Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.
I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.
Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.
I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.
opebo you have been before and you may forever be the record holder of the rock bottom of rock bottom monger. This requires new target setting:
New target should be 150 baht 10 years older, no towles and 10 cock roches per sq m. You will then get a free of charge bath in my double jacuzzi Livingstones hotel room (after that I change rooms).
regards
Brain666
opebo you have been before and you may forever be the record holder of the rock bottom of rock bottom monger.
Thanks, Brian, but I have had street BJs back in the US for $10, so $6 in Thailand is really not such a bargain. I'm quite sure Thais regularly pay that, and occasionally get it for even 100 baht. After all, for a very large segment of the Thai working class, the daily wage is 200 baht or less.
Traveler1234
04-26-07, 19:07
Thanks, Brian, but I have had street BJs back in the US for $10, so $6 in Thailand is really not such a bargain. I'm quite sure Thais regularly pay that, and occasionally get it for even 100 baht. After all, for a very large segment of the Thai working class, the daily wage is 200 baht or less.
Damn bro - what's your secret for keeping healthy? All the bucks you save on cheapo fucks - your medical bills must be skyrocketing :D
Traveler1234
04-26-07, 19:08
I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .
Let's go over to finish it my next visit...I'll bring my corporate Platium Amex card :D
I arrived late last night and had a team of ladies arranged ahead of time to help ease me into BKK for a few days. Just on arrival at my hotel, a knock at the door and Miss Pim and Amm apeared.
They didn't know each other very well and were a bit nervious on arrival. As it was approaching 1:00am, I was anxious to get a bit cleaned up after the long flight. Miss Amm suggested the 3 of us shower together. A very nice ice breaker. I could tell that Pim was a bit nervious about the whole affair and took her sweet time changing from clothes into robe. By the time I was done in the shower, she was just about ready to jump in.
10 minutes later, the three of us were into bed. I wanted to see how well this team would work together and I let them give me a work over. I laid on my back, kissing one while the other took turns stroking old Bob. I was a bit disappointed that BBBJ was not on the menu but anxous to get the show moving. I motioned to Amm the condoms and lube on the night stand next to me. She took the hint well and proceeded to outfit Bob properly. I managed to get both ladies mounted with a bit of effort. On on Bob the other positioned to taste her natural juices. After 10 min or so. Time to switch drivers. I finished on top of Pim.
Through the night, I sampled one lady followed by a bit of sleep and then the other. Both were quite natural ladies. Not overly professional.
JD
Retired Army
04-27-07, 18:34
Retired Army,
Hmm ... I am not sure that you understood my remark about the prices correctly. I found it expensive, compared to other Bangkok bars.
THB 30,000 for 7 bottles of liquor and 7 barfines (as I remember) may look generous for members. But to go there as a non-member, pay THB 800.00 only for getting in there, and then getting charged for drinks, lady drinks while a girl is sitting with you not longer than 20 - 30 min. , I would be surprised if somebody left there as a guest without having paid less than THB 4,000 - without additional costs for the ladies services upstairs, or bar fines to take one out.
Giotto
PS: I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .
No, I agree. Pegagus is not for cheap charlies... But compared to Europe it's a bargain.
2Nd night in BKK. Miss Bum and Miss Pookie. They were one of the best tag teams I'd ever run into. They are quite similar in size, age, attitude and seemed quite relaxed with each other.
The highlights. When I 1st had miss Pookie on all fours. Miss Bum slid up behind me, on her knees such that her chest was up against my back. She assisted my motions into Pookie with her own hip thrusting action. Now this is making love to two ladies at onec. Bum's position was just right so I could hold Pookie's ass with one hand and reach back around behind me to finger Bum's moistness with the other. We tried this and a few other tandom positions through the night and into the next day.
Look in the photo section for more detail and photos on each.
JD
M P Lurker
04-28-07, 08:21
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I laid on my back, kissing one while the other took turns stroking old Bob. I was a bit disappointed that BBBJ was not on the menu but anxous to get the show moving. I motioned to Amm the condoms and lube on the night stand next to me. She took the hint well and proceeded to outfit Bob properly. I managed to get both ladies mounted with a bit of effort. On on Bob the other positioned to taste her natural juices. <cut>
JD
I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???
Retired Army
04-28-07, 12:01
I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???
because it's short...
I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???
Well, variety is what counts. Isn't it?
If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear!
Retired Army
04-28-07, 21:54
If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear!
If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.
If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.
This is no doubt very true.
In addition, I'd say that P4P is a case of dimiinshing marginal return. You can get a good experience for 1500 Baht in many places in BKK. Paying 15,000 Baht as one can in Pegasus is not going to result in a 10 times better experience, only a 10 times more expensive one.
It is all about class. One spends according to one's social category. A sizeable portion of the extra price is going to pay for the exclusivity of the service, not its intrinsic quality.
As Calvin (of Calvin and Hobbes) once remarked to his stuffed tiger, "the world should have a cover charge to keep the riff-raff out".
Traveler1234
04-28-07, 23:09
If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.
I like that :)
That's a great lead for future lazy newbie queries - send them to Pegasus....LOL
I was in the market for a pair of sisters. My typical local agent did her magic on somewhat short notice and came up with Jane and Ging. All in all. A waste of money.
Ging. 30ish with a bit of an attitude. Not bad body and she knows how to grind Jane. Her 20 yo little sister is very very new and very very small. Old Bob just about split her in two a couple of times.
The combo of the bossy older sister and the inexperienced little sister just didn't work for me. Though I did enjoy working Bob into that very small ass. Jane must have been 5 inches thick herself. So with Bob inside, I'm pretty sure it made and impact (I could certainly feel myself from the outside).
JD
I was in the market for a pair of sisters. My typical local agent did her magic on somewhat short notice and came up with Jane and Ging. All in all. A waste of money.
Ging. 30ish with a bit of an attitude. Not bad body and she knows how to grind Jane. Her 20 yo little sister is very very new and very very small. Old Bob just about split her in two a couple of times.
The combo of the bossy older sister and the inexperienced little sister just didn't work for me. Though I did enjoy working Bob into that very small ass. Jane must have been 5 inches thick herself. So with Bob inside, I'm pretty sure it made and impact (I could certainly feel myself from the outside).
JD
Nice reports!! Try Black and White in the Cowboy. 9 and 30 (air and water)
thai names?
Perfect place to stay.
Everything you could want is right across the street.
M P Lurker
04-29-07, 08:28
Nice reports!! Try Black and White in the Cowboy. 9 and 30 (air and water)
thai names?
"Air" is a Thai nick-name (not related to English word "air") and "Narm" is a Thai nick-name meaning "water".
BTW many "sisters" in Thailand are not real biological sisters. The word "sister" is used as a euphemism for "female close friends".
So if you really need actual real "sisters" you would need to check there Ids have the same surname for starters. Then find out if they actually have the same mother or same father.
I am embarassed to admit I have actually done sisters (Phen and Phaa), but on different occasions (not at same time), which is not really good form.
Thye didn't really look alike at all, except for both having the similar very large real tits.
Not that many Thai sisters would want to fuck the same guy and watch each other doing it. However they may be desperate for money.
Has a newbie, I'm arrassed with your posts just about newbie that asks questions and. Blalblabla.
I'm actually in BKK and staying at the Shukuv area, and I read the FAQ and about 14 pages of this forum without finding a place to go this evening near my hotel.
So please stop flaming newbie and post messages that can help others. Since it's my first day here, I'm not sure that I can help in this thread. I only tryed a MP (so maybe I'll post a report on massage thread).
But pleeeaaaasee. Stop making so much noise about newbie questions and lazyness. Thank you
P.S. : I know that this message is another one on the newbie subject.
Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.
A link to Brain666's report about his actual Bangkok experience, belongs here, too.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=592073
Giotto
Hi guys,
I like all asia scene and I know rather well BKK by night of course I like now. In parallele with the classic games. (street girls / shop & office girls / oil / soapy / FL / BJbars / ratchada or ekkamai disco or are&be girls. Low class or upscale girls and so on. LOL, by the way I enjoyed a lot of good addresses thank so much to you and ISG) go outside of the beatten tracks WITH YOUR EXPERT HELP; o)) For me, escape a little bit from those regular places is more fun.
==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:
Place were up Sukhumvit before you come to soi 55. One is on the north side and the other on the south. Blow jobs after the haircut. This included a decent head and neck massage and the haircut was OK too. Total about B500. They were surprised to see a farang come into the shop, but delighted none the less to take my money. Last time I was in BKK I went to tonglor to try, I spend 30mn to find it, I saw barber shop (on north) who was looking to be the right one, I didn't see any other one around, I had doubt but I got in and I got the regular:.((service. As I was inside getting some haircut I was pretty sure then to be in a wrong saloon. So if you understand what I am looking for and if you know some address please let me know on the board!
Thanks guys
Hey Guys,
Recently passed through BKK and hoped to have the pleasure of the lovely Anny (left from Aviva)
Couldn't make any contact so had to go and find some alternative ; (
Any body had any sightings and better still any report of her 'massages' recently ??
Reebee1
Member #3409
04-30-07, 07:36
Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.
Your right you should be negotiating the end time, but by the sounds of this it sounds quite ok, maybe the call was to attend to something urgent. You know Thai hookers have real lives too? Never heard of a call being used as a ploy to get a girl out of a job at 6am. The fact she allowed a lower rate would indicate it was genuine and not a scam.
M P Lurker
04-30-07, 10:02
Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.
In my experience, LT lasts till morning if you are lucky and rarely till lunchtime. The price was an excellent one anyway.
Always ask what time she has to go and set alarm for well before that to ensure time for an invigourating "happy beginning" to the day.
I do understand well those who prefer a good screw to start the day. Far more important than breakfast.
My idea of a perfect alarm cock (I mean clock) is to wake up with the girl already slurping on your dick. This is really only practical with girls that you have very well trained unfortunately. Its best to have a very thorough wash after sex the previous night to ensure everything will taste nice in the morning. I even keep mouth freshener near the bed.
M P Lurker
04-30-07, 10:21
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==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:
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Coconut,
When I need a haircut I go to a place that specialises in haircuts and does a great job for a very good price. Its a beauty salon and most of the customers are Thai females.
When I want a blowjob I go somewhere else.
I wouldn't want a blowjob specialist to cut my hair. She might make a mess of it as was my experience in a Sukhumwit place with pretty girls sitting in the window. They didn't know how to cut and I didn't try anything else.
But then if you just get No. 2 clipper across the whole head, its easy, I guess.
What is the real benefit of going to a remote location (or perhaps these locations were actually closer to you) to try to get both?
Must be you are trying for a super bargain basement price??? or do you have so little time available (i.e. do you need an excuse to be away from wife)?
AsiaTraveler2
04-30-07, 11:43
If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear!
Samu,
Forget Pegasus. It will cost you 5 to 10 times what you can pay elsewhere. I spent an evening there and it's ok if you are looking for something different, but really, the girls are not any different once you get them back to your hotel. They are just dressed better and the place promotes an image and feel of exclusivity, but it's not worth it if you have budget constraints.
They have a membership package (includes X amount of barfines, drinks, etc.) but was about 50,000 baht for a one or two year membership when I was there. I could be wrong about the amount, since it was a few years ago, but you get the picture. When they were making their pitch to me, there was also a non-member option.
The Pent Executive club is supposed to be in the same price range, but they appear to have a better selection of woman.
Good luck!
AT2
Cool Sinbad
04-30-07, 11:47
Hi Guys,
Have been reading your forum for some time. I'm coming down to Bangkok for the first time ever and wanted some help:
1) I'm staying at the J.W. Marriott. Is it girl-friendly?
2) Where can I go to locate some South American (Colombian, Brazilian, Venezuelan) and CIS (Russian, Baltic states) P4P ??? Instead of the usual massage parlours, I was wondering if there were any night clubs or discos where these type of girls hang out.......
I'm from Dubai & India. Will happily exchange info with any of you through PM.
Thanks for the help,
Cool Sinbad
AsiaTraveler2
04-30-07, 11:52
You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.
Yes, but they draw the line at Giraffes. ;)
Cool Sinbad - Read through the Hotel Thread. Lot's of info on the J.W. and other hotels.
AT2
Cool Sinbad
04-30-07, 12:14
Yes, but they draw the line at Giraffes. ;)
Cool Sinbad - Read through the Hotel Thread. Lot's of info on the J.W. and other hotels.
AT2
Thanks for the quick reply AT2.....
And for the "exotic" (South American, Russian) P4P ? Should I try CM2, as a few posts seem to indicate? Or is there another place that is better?
Thanks again,
Cool Sinbad
Traveler1234
04-30-07, 12:32
I'm actually in BKK and staying at the Shukuv area, and I read the FAQ and about 14 pages of this forum without finding a place to go this evening near my hotel.
Personally never heard of Shukuv area - so my question is did you read the FAQ and 14 pages 'before' or after you arrived? What hotel are you stayn at? How come no place to go - what are you looking for: MP, go go bars, FL??
Good luck!
PS - pay jackson to become full member, then seniors (eg nic frenchy) would pm you directly ;)
NicFrenchy
04-30-07, 13:06
hi guys,
==> i want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to regular hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) i am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway i will continue to go these shops) what i am looking for, is a little bit "remote" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. i remember few monthes ago i read on isg / bkk topics one of us talking about thonglor: i would agree with what mick said. get a haircut at a nice salon and a bj with a bj pro, that way you maximize your chances of beaing very happy with both.
now, getting a bj from a haircut girl is possible. you can basically go to any barber shop in bangkok and start flirting with the girl cutting your hair. sometimes you get lucky.
now, this is a good strategy if you are an expat and have a few months ahead of you (unfortunately hair don't grow back instantly so you can't go "shop around"). if you're a tourist, forget it, get a haircut and go to sol ot [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
Hi guys,
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==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:
Last time I was in BKK I went to tonglor to try, I spend 30mn to find it, I saw barber shop (on north) who was looking to be the right one, I didn't see any other one around, I had doubt but I got in and I got the regular:.((service. As I was inside getting some haircut I was pretty sure then to be in a wrong saloon. So if you understand what I am looking for and if you know some address please let me know on the board!
Thanks guys
There is a salom called Smiles on Soi 15, just before Manhattan Hotel. It's in the 1st building when you enter the Soi. They have a massage parlor adjoining it connected to it. Owner is the same and you can enter it thru the salon if you want. Although I have never asked for a BJ specifically, you can try it. Let us know.
Traveler1234
04-30-07, 15:35
Another one but also off Sukhumvit
Friend's Barber & Massage
16/3 Sukhumvit Soi 19
Located only 200 metres away from sukhumvit
Traditonal thai massage. Reflexology. Oil massage.
Downstairs they have foot massage (good), two barber chairs (decent cut) and upstairs massage (thai and oil both good) and whatever else (never tried but asked many times) ..... you don't necessarily get to pick your girl.
Good way to kill a few hours but never asked for any extras...too many other alternatives.
ArchieLeach
04-30-07, 22:40
Ree Bee and Maphrao,
Since both of you have recently been to BKK or are currently in BKK mongering at the moment and are referencing places that you've been , or places that you "normally go", how about telling us about them?
It sounds like you have information that you could share with us.
Rico -- If you cannot get laid in Bangkok -- with or without advice from seasoned fellow mongers -- the problem is you and not them.
You ought to have read much more than 14 pages. But that is your problem, as you have amply demonstrated.
Are you sure you are in the right city?
AsiaTraveler2
05-01-07, 07:58
Another one but also off Sukhumvit
Friend's Barber & Massage
16/3 Sukhumvit Soi 19
Located only 200 metres away from sukhumvit
Traditonal thai massage. Reflexology. Oil massage.
Downstairs they have foot massage (good), two barber chairs (decent cut) and upstairs massage (thai and oil both good) and whatever else (never tried but asked many times) ..... you don't necessarily get to pick your girl.
Good way to kill a few hours but never asked for any extras...too many other alternatives.
Traveler,
You are right about Friends. They also have one about a block from Nana Plaza. I got the hair cut, foot massage, and oil massage. The oil massage included a bj and hj finish. I'm sure fs would have been available for a price.
The hair cut was done by one girl and the rest by a 2nd girl upstairs. The irony, is that the girl doing the hair cut is the one I would have wanted upstairs!
Still a good experience.
AT2
tried [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (between soi 6 & 8) on a lazy afternoon only to find a guy sitting at the bar who grew up only 200 miles of me in the us. he now lives 6 months a year in bkk offered these monger suggestions:
o utopia. best upscale ladies (5000b). many former/current models. located 10 min from suk on 2nd floor.
o darling's. best medium price sauna experience (2500b) at soi 12
o ta wan dang. locals restaurant with german-thai food, live stage show (sorry las vegas style, not monger style), in-house brewry. on rama 3 a 10 min taxi from suk. took up his suggestion to take a beautiful lady along. i agree with others that treating a lady like a gf does have its benefits, especially if you want to repeat with this lady.
Well guys, thanks for your advise,
ArchieLeach, of course I know I know many places, but due to my english level and due to many posts saying that some forum newbies are. "boring" I just wanted to be quick to go directly to the subject (wanted to find out were the kind of salon (I put in quotes) were able to find, I addition to "smile" and "friends" that I already know, (Duniawala, Traveler1234, NicFrenchy thank you for your comments, if I find something funny or interesting I will post it), I can add "hair design" in soi 11/1 but all of these are very basic and easy to find.
Mick Licker, I know it's an unusual p4p service, but as I said in (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=592238&postcount=3332)
I know all these regular locations mak mak, I can stop looking for this 2 in 1 service but I wanted to try the kind of thong lor salon: I put in quote (can find the original link of that post that's why I copied & pasted the text) just wanna try a new experiment, you see?
So if somebody have some address I will try and report (wanna sacrify myself for the forum, LOL)
By the way I will be back again tomorrow in BKK for few weeks,
Take care
Jungle Bluebird
05-02-07, 07:42
Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...
Utopia, anyone knows the website address?
JB
Darling's. Best medium price sauna experience (2500b) at Soi 12
Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...
Utopia, anyone knows the website address?
JBNo website. No sauna. But sauna experience, LOL. And also rats, as I know from my thai girlfriend, who worked there for some months. And papasans, who make ONLY recommandations for girls, who give them money.
So better make your own choice!
M P Lurker
05-02-07, 11:59
Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...
Utopia, anyone knows the website address?
JB
Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
http://www.utopiabkk.com/
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html
Then click on the Utopia button.
Jungle Bluebird
05-02-07, 12:06
Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)
JB
Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
http://www.utopiabkk.com/
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html
Then click on the Utopia button.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-02-07, 19:04
I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned here yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)
I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Bangkok so we'll see how it goes.
The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.
Anybody else using camfrog?
Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?
After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.
Anybody else using camfrog?
I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.
Member #2041
05-03-07, 16:30
Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?
After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.
To me, this is a good thing. It just means that the ladies become available without a barfine in the Nana parking lot a half hour to an hour earlier. Frankly, I never understood the advantage of having clubs stay open past 2 or 3 AM. At 3 AM, I want to already be in my bed shagging my companion for the evening.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-03-07, 21:25
I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.
No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.
Chok dee! :-)
No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.
Chok dee! :-)
Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.
Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.
I saw that B/G for a few days each time, during my 2 trips to BKK, this year. She said that she was new (SC hostess; the type that try to get customers inside the bar) to the trade and really seemed like she was. She spoke only a few words of English and did not have the usual routine.
The first time that I barfined her, we went to my hotel and, as the kissing, caressing got pretty hot, we missed the condom step. "Studip!": Yes, I know.
And more stupid is the fact that we did not use a condom for any of the numerous following sessions. We kept saying that we had to use one, the next time around, but! She always stayed overnight in my room.
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.
Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).
Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?
I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-04-07, 02:45
Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.
Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.
You butterfly, you! ;-) I think you're right...it's like the actor Charlie Sheen said about his use of hookers... "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave after we're done and not come back." A girlfriend is much more expensive in the long run, for sure. Just depends on what you're looking for, I guess.
M P Lurker
05-04-07, 09:52
Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)
JB
Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.
Jungle Bluebird
05-04-07, 10:13
Yup, thats what I figured. I remember some time ago, when exploring BKK MP's some did not accept non-thai's (or at a surcharge). Interesting experience to be rejected due to ethnic roots.
Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.
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I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
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Visitusa,
My recommendation would be NOT to get involved in that game. The Japanese guy is most likely expected to have some money, so he is contacted first.
If she will later find out that most likely YOU are the father (of the most likely not existing future baby) ignore the E-Mails and move on.
Giotto
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.
Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).
Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?
I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.
She could also just be working a scam. Years ago I had messed around with a freelancer who worked Spasso's. I was only with her overnight twice and both times we were so drunk, nothing really happened. I know that is hard to believe but she always was asking for too much money and I would put her off. And then at the end of the evening when we were both stinking drunk, she offered to go with me just to avoid having to go home. And the two times this happened we basically just passed out once we got to the room. Hard to believe but true. Maybe that is why I don't drink so much anymore.
I did trade emails with her though and always thought about trying to really make something happen. Anyway, I get this email from a guy. He said she had sent him an email saying she was pregnant and needed money for an abortion. He said he knew he could not have gotten her pregnant, because he had had a vasectomy. He had a hacker friend get into her email and found out she had sent the same email to 12 other guys. So he copied her entire email address list and sent a warning letter to everyone on it.
I guess since I never got her email telling me I was a father, I really did pass out on the bed with her, not once, but twice. Really a very poor performance on my part.
I actually talked to her about this on a subsequent trip. She claimed she was not really pregnant and she never wrote the emails. I tend to think she did and just got caught. This girl was very smart and also very high end. Never underestimate what a smart TG is capable of.
this was my last lay after two weeks in asia. here is a sex story with info sprinkled in:
ended up on soi cowboy. soi means street. walked in approximately every other go go bar on the strip. time was about 11:30 pm (closing time is 2 am sharp). the girls in each bar on soi cowboy wear number tags on their outfit as they dance. bars are themed and different ambiances. outfits vary from no bottom and stars covering nip to thong bottom and topless (must be a ban on total nude) and in between. aggressive hostesses (very thailand) also dressed in (different) uniforms. some smile and joke. they do not bother me.
worth noting is bacarat bar near the end on the left. nice set up. two stacked dancing floors and the floor is glass in between so you can look up skirts from downstairs. upstairs topless, downstairs dance uniforms. i was joking around, in a good mood for a last night before 18 hours of in air flight time.
saw many bangable babes (lots of 6's) at least 4 very tasty (there must be about 400 working girls within the quarter mile.) i made eye contact with a certain number 19 at one bar in the beginning, then a 29 at another (sharkeys bar on the left). i made it back to sharkeys bar for 29 and ordered my water.
i confirmed the procedure. exit fine of 500 (15 usd). my babe gai did not want a drink. some guy bought her a tequila shot – i could tell she did not like it. i sensed she was a showy dancer (good girl inside). i was hoping for dirty girl, but i knew not. i knew "likes to dance more than likes to screw" but. yummy.
she remembered me from the first pass. unfortunately not true love, but good enough.
gai is 5'2 in high heels. 88 pounds. little piece of thai ass.
i did not talk price with her, as is my way if they do not bring it up. as my new friend in cambodia rob noted, that is not always the best way to do it, especially if you are green (you know who you are).
about prices. girls on the street between na na and cowboy (soi 3 – about soi 21) cost 1, 000 (30 usd) short time (but several girls said no to me and wanted 1, 500 baht short time. which i would not pay, so they would not go). ladyboys ask the same prices. i never negotiate long time (a whole shenanigan on its own. one day if i am properly budgeted, i may negotiate long time and just cut 'em lose early, and see how they deal with the trapped (no immediate exit after load blown) angle).
prices are even higher on soi cowboy. i guess you could work it for less if you have time, but after the fine, it is between you and the girl. earlier at dinner, i spoke to a tourist who told me the scene. he had a bit of overpay about himself that he admitted too. he pays what the girls want 2, 000 (60 usd) for short time. he does not like to hassle or haggle.
gai is the classic shy good girl (who has ink and is on the pole. whatever, they are all over asia) *****.
very beautiful (from a northeast province) and a great smile, but low self-esteem issues "i am not beautiful" rap. smokin' body. hard. not too marked. classic girl for hire/american tourist picture perfect photo couple we made as we strolled down soi cowboy for the short taxi ride to my hotel the ruamchitt plaza & hotel near soi 15. http://www.asiatravel.com/ruamchitt/index.html. it is walking distance, but not with gai in those high heels she broke out when she changed to civies. gai speaks some english. let's say a 4-5. enough to get into a conversation and when we got to something good, she lost the words.
with gai i knew it was all about breaking barriers. how to turn her on within minutes of meeting when she knows i am long gone forever in hours (bla bla bla). a struggle for french kissing, fingers inside, ass play. all battled for and achieved (she did not like assplay at all. surprise). great ass lickie.
sometimes everything is a fun struggle, and is why i take viagra.
i prefer to walk into the room with a tasty girl put her legs up and peel panties or face down on the bed and pull skirt and panties down. tough sometimes. gai is using the shower excuse (very big in asia). clean as a whistle but needs to shower. she is begging me. i am playing hardball. on the bed i get the titties out and go for the suck. get her motor running and she gets scared. happened 4 or 5 times. barriers. i did eat her out pre shower while she was standing on the bathroom floor, her foot on the bowl and then she blew me bare while sitting on the lid. very average bbbj. poor girl needs to relax. she said she liked it.
we settled on showering together. back to the bed, i ate her pussy and ass, she blew me, we 69ed with her on top (mmm and nice view (gai did not bother me about the lights at least.). she did not 69 for long. surprise not.
i talked to her about coming and masturbation and clients. anything to gain knowledge to get her wetter. tough nut.
i gloved up lambskin and jammed her. that is the bottom line for some of the barrier girls. you can get away with good tongue and finger stuff if they are getting it good. i watch the premature ejaculation. that ends the struggle every time. i put her through the positions, battling the whole time. i asked her why she was making a face when she loved it, and she said it hurt a little, but i did not believe her. after lots of schtupp, i asked her to get on top and she made such a face that i burst out laughing. i had to give her the pass.
the best jam on her was on her back with her legs held straight up so she could not push away. i tried to get her to hold her legs on her own in that position so my hands would be free, but she wimped out.
i blew a load with her on her back, i sprayed her hair (i do not do that on purpose), boobs, belly (sooo flat and hard) pubes and **** lips. she was exhausted and ready to get out. she did not come close to coming. pobrecita: (i made ready 1, 500 while she was showering. she did count it without a word, just a nice thank you. goodbye was me grinning and a smiling let me out of here gai. fun hour.
photos were taken at the beginning. she was not into photos and thought she looked ugly. the pics do not do her justice. no nudes. no way, i did not even ask. the sex always must take priority over the photos.
the soi cowboy strip reminded me of angeles city philippines main strip. i prefer angeles, as there is no huge city i. e. bangkok surrounding the strip, also, there are more bars (maybe three times as many) on the angeles strip (say 20-30 on soi cowboy and 60 or so on the angeles strip. in angeles there was more rotation of girls and just more pussy density, although there are obviously many thousands of hos in bangkok within 5 square miles.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Heh guys,
First off let me say this is an excellent forum gives very good insights into mongering in BKK, much better than if you were just researching the net for places to go! Have read through nearly all the reports so am not gonna bore you guys with newbie questions! Well my flight to BKK is booked and will be landing in 2 weeks. Wanted to find out if any of you guys have come across any indian women in phurat? Have heard indian pussy is available here and much cheaper than somewhere like Mumbai. Can anyone give any insight? As have searched through the forum but no mention! Also planning on doing a detour from BKK for a couple of days, which is better Pattaya or phukhet for mongering at this time of year?
Thanks guys look foward to your responses.
Jay
M P Lurker
05-05-07, 02:14
Yup, thats what I figured. I remember some time ago, when exploring BKK MP's some did not accept non-thai's (or at a surcharge). Interesting experience to be rejected due to ethnic roots.
The surcharge is basically a bigger dick charge but I doubt there is a discount if you happen to have a small one.
But its true that Thai girls are more likely to temporarily get put out of action by Farangs
I had a circumstance a couple of years ago where a girl that i'd known in Singapore over a period of 2 years, and had visited in Bangkok (so knew her as well as you can know a hooker).
Some a-hole got hold of her password to email, and sent a series of emails out telling all her contacts that she was HIV positive, and that we should get tested.
This same guy had already been identified to me earlier as a "problem customer", so i knew not to take any notice. My point is, don't take emails from the girls on face value. Just as it is with the girls themselves,so with their emails: you can never really know whats going on.
Ozirob
Visitusa,
My recommendation would be NOT to get involved in that game. The Japanese guy is most likely expected to have some money, so he is contacted first.
If she will later find out that most likely YOU are the father (of the most likely not existing future baby) ignore the E-Mails and move on.
GiottoI was always in a suite (upgrade) of one of the best hotel in BKK and compensated her well, so I do not believe that this was actually the reason.
NicFrenchy
05-06-07, 06:07
Abortion is illegal in ThailandSo is prostitution
but do you know if it is commonly practised?Of course it is practised, but usually a lot of the girls keep the childs and don't go through abortion.
Bomb explodes in downtown Bangkok
Blast wounds one; police, bomb squads investigating
BANGKOK: -- A bomb exploded near in downtown Bangkok on Saturday, wounding one person, Thai police said.
The bomb was planted in a side street of the Thai capital, a police spokesman said.
The slightly wounded person was a 22-year-old man.
Police and bomb squads rushed to the scene to investigate the attack and authorities sealed off the area to vehicles and public.
"We cannot speculate about the culprit (behind the attack) for the time being," Bangkok's police superintendent told reporters.
Thailand has been rocked by both political instability following a military coup last September which ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and a bloody Muslim insurgency in its southernmost provinces.
SO WHY IS THE BAHT SO STRONG?
Member #3200
05-07-07, 05:04
I've been wondering that question myself ever since I got back from Thailand 5 months ago & hope 2 go there in 12 days.
Once again the pieces of crap of this world-muslim want 2 disrupt the order of things by THEIR means-terrorist actions/bombings the laws regarding foreign ownership & investment+political unrest+muslim insurgency should = a weakening bhat not the recent strength that has taken place it might not happen tomorrow or next week when I am there-2 bad, but there will come a time very soon where a combination of the above negativity surround Thailand will ruin the economy & recent prosperity of Thailand & the bhat will plummet as well as high unemployment leading 2 more supply of women into the business which should lower prices.
The surcharge is basically a bigger dick charge but I doubt there is a discount if you happen to have a small one.
But its true that Thai girls are more likely to temporarily get put out of action by Farangs
Its not only dick size, Mick, its duration of intercourse. Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - anything over a few minutes.
NicFrenchy
05-07-07, 12:39
Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - anything over a few minutes.Are you for real? Is that what the Thais last? That's not what my ex-TG girlfriend said. She said her Thai Boyfriend lasted quite some time. She agreed that farangs were bigger though.
AsiaTraveler2
05-07-07, 15:24
Its not only dick size, Mick, its duration of intercourse. Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - anything over a few minutes.
Opebo,
It's actually the "If I get this sucker to believe Farangs have bigger dicks and last longer, I can milk him for 500 to 1,000 baht more!" stereotype. LOL! Seriously, have you ever thought for a moment, that it's because Farangs are supposed to have more money? Hence the higher charge? These woman have babies bigger than your dick and they survive just fine.
They milk your ego and then your wallet.
AT2
Double Nickle
05-07-07, 16:46
this was such a good report that i excerpted it from the honolulu travel plans thread on the usa sex guide. go there to see the entire report including getting a passport in hawaii and flying from hawaii to bangkok.
i really have to get to bangkok. a taxi driver in talinn, estonia told me thailand was the best place in the world to get women for sex.
...the hotels will cost between $50 and $150 (good to great) and $300 if you want to live it up in a high rollers type suite!
currency:
the currency is the baht. 1,000 baht is about $25 us, but it bounces around a lot. you can and will get laid for $25 to $75, and many of them will be all nighters, with the ever so blissful morning wakeup bj. of course, ymmv.
what to do:
in bangkok, i guess it depends on your tastes, but here are some suggestions:
soapies:
definitely recommend poseidon and/or copacabana. top of the line, nice selection and sideline girls. they have the classic fish bowl set up, with 30-50 girls. in the good old days, it was a hundred. think rush hour 2, but better! with the sideline girls you can drink and get to know them and maybe find some chemistry. colonze 2 has a smaller selection, but is less than 2,000 baht.
http://www.poseidon2000.com/en/home/home.html
http://www.caesarsentertainment.com/
http://geocities.com/colonze2/ok.html
http://www.utopiabkk.com/models.html
take the subway and save some aggravation from the traffic. others in the area include emmanuel and cesaers. catherine and colonze on rama ix, cp2 on sri ayudhya road. plaza entertainment on petchaburi road is ok, but cupidy next door is considered a ripoff. taxi drivers get a kickback. most places are 1,700 - 2,700 baht, and higher for the sideline girls and high end girls. price range depends on the size and quality of the establishment. tips range from 200-500 baht norm, although i have seen higher numbers mentioned.
massage: 24 hour: sabai sabai across from the ambassador hotel, for 24 hour massage with extra's. incall or outcall. all the girls i met offer extras. in house hj only and takeout many offer fs. it's on the lane behind the 7-11, so you can't see it from the main drag. i believe that's soi 11. the prices are 600-900 baht depending on time. the girls ask about 500 baht for the hj and 1,000-1,500 for fs. pricey, but it is a 24/7 option. mixed reviews, but i have never had a problem there.
http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/p4.html
oily massage: there's tulip near the thonglor bts. there are several options on their menu, including fs. angel massage on soi 22 & 26 is also very good. nice selection of girls and lotion, oil or thai massage options. as with most all bkk massage places, extra's are available.
nep & soi cowboy bars: nep angel witch and rainbow bars, soi cowboy hit long gun, baccara, etc. i also spent an afternoon once at one of the smaller bars at the end. it was raining and i ran in to stay dry. i bought the girls drinks and ended up buying rounds for several girls. very similar to what happens in ac/phils. as with all bkk bars, you pay the bar fine and work the tip out with the girl.
beer garden and pool bars: the famous bier garten or beer garden is found on soi 7. easy place to pickup free lancers in the afternoon. there's gullivers on soi 5 and the hillary bars i and ii on soi 4. too many others to mention.
soi 33 artists bars, livinstones & massage parlors: soi 33 has both the artists bars and some very good massage places. the artists bars are named after famous artists and are more upscale. there are some great looking woman. livingstones has parties in the evenings around the pool bar & pool area. the owner (giotto) contributes a lot of posts, so info is easy to find. giotto is friendly and helpful.
soi 33 teen massage has some fans. small rooms are the downside, but a nice selection of girls. i hear there are larger rooms available on the 1st floor. massage is around 900-1,200 baht. fs is on the menu, but for around 1,500 baht extra. akane is another soi 33 mp. they use the gel from japan as a lubricant for the massage in the groin area and for the hj. fs is probably not available. this place is hard to find the first time. if you spot a "peep inn" sign, look under the garage area and you will see it about 50 feet in. of the two, i would recommend akane. they also have a chitlom branch. you will see a lot of japanese nationals at akane. there are other massage places in addition to the two mentioned, including angels and tulip.
http://angelsoi26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html
down time: during the day, hit the emporium shopping mall. nice place, excellent eating spots, and you can catch a movie. the movies are usually in english with thai subtitles, it's cheap and best of all it's cool and you can recharge. the seats are very comfortable as well. siam square has another good shopping center. non shopping includes some of the bars with pool tables or sports bars. there's always golf if you are into it. of course there's temples galore, grand palace, and other touristy things.
in the evening, if you like singing, you can hit one of the karaoke places and have some girls join you. after there's always the take out option.
barbershops & foot massage places: friends massage near nana for a nice pampering session. options are haircut, shampoo, pedicure, foot massage, oil massage. extra's are on the table. they open early and it's a good way to start the day. get creative and suggest something off the menu and they may oblige! lot's of other similar places, so don't limit yourself to friends. most options range from 250-600 baht.
j-bars: there are quite a few bars catering to japanese only. they can almost be as selective as some of the real japan bars! lol! got turned away at a couple. in most, though, i was able to get in. don't recall the names off hand, but they are all over the place. very easy to spot.
soi 22: sazanka massage has been well reviewed in the massage thread and comes highly recommended. it is a unique experience, with a salt body scrub, massage and a very unique hj at the end.
thermae: the place is a long time bkk institution that has changed over time. it was called the star wars bar, because of the mix of characters and nationalities. it's been years since i have gone there, but it seems there's a full range of 2's-9's and ages 20's-40's. all free lancers.
night clubs: spasso at the grand hyatt. nice selection of freelancers and non-working girls. riva's at sheraton grande and cm2 in the basement of the novotel at siam square are also very good.
other: of course there's the only in bkk stuff like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s soi 8 bj bar and eden club for the infamous threesome. there's also patpong with the bars, shows and night market. thaniya plaza for electronics and the j-bar and massage scene catering to japanese clientele.
10 days is more than enough for a first visit. the heat and pollution may get to you a bit. drink bottled water not tap. you may get the runs, since you never traveled internationally. one or two trips to either thailand or the pi will take care of that. after that, your system will kick ass! you may be getting laid 2-5 times a day, so 10 days is a lot, unless you pace yourself or are superman.
there's no difference going solo or with someone. either way, you are going to want your own room, so the expenses are the same. the plus of going with someone is the conversation. thai girls speak some english, but it's not their strong suit, so you do miss some good conversation during meals. having said that, on your own, you get to do what you want and when you want to. you will be with girls constantly, so will you miss your buddy?
by the way, once you get your passport, monger heaven will open up to you. asia is where it's at! i hope this helps.
happy hunting!
at2
Opebo,
It's actually the "If I get this sucker to believe Farangs have bigger dicks and last longer, I can milk him for 500 to 1,000 baht more!" stereotype. LOL! Seriously, have you ever thought for a moment, that it's because Farangs are supposed to have more money? Hence the higher charge? These woman have babies bigger than your dick and they survive just fine.
They milk your ego and then your wallet.
AT2
Very good points, AT2, but have you ever read my reports? My price range is usually 300-500 baht all in!
Anyway, you know stereotypes - never always true, but always mostly true.
Track Cabbage
05-08-07, 00:18
Nothing like getting straight to the point!
Am in Bangkok and Pattaya for only a few days would appriciate any leads on girls who take it in all directions without too much fuss Its not the kind of thing I like to negotiate beforehand and don, t have too much time to waste fishing around.
Regards,
Mr Cabbage
ArchieLeach
05-08-07, 03:32
Jayk007,
I'd say Pattaya is better for pure mongering, but Phuket's better for pure tourism.
Member #3200,
Easy boy, easy. I'm sympathetic to your passion, but let's not start a flame war. There's nothing to be gained down that road, and I don't think Jackson would appreciate it. But your sentiments are well-taken.
Double Nickel,
If Thailand's not the absolute #1 place for action, it can't be far behind. Estonia wasn't a bad experience BTW, the women are smokin' HOT aren't they. I found myself just taking pictures of random girls in the town square and on the street, they were so beautiful. (I don't suppose you ate at a restaurant called Troika did you?)
LittleBigMan
05-08-07, 08:22
Track Cabbage,
If you just want a sure things into the third hole, in Bangkok go to Soi 7/1 off Sukhumvit Eden Club. If you just want a sure thing into the third hole, in Pattaya go near the end of Soi Diana toward LK Metro.. Hell club!
Good luck,
LBM
Jungle Bluebird
05-08-07, 08:27
It's denial really. Many Bangkok Thais are really second generation country folk, with that hidden fears apply. Fear of foreigners in particular. Very village this is.
Racism is far more common that most of us realize. In Thailand many ultra conservative elements have a hand at things. Don't think has anything to do with dick size.
Anyway. Thai guys are very suave. Watch how they chat up girls. Farangs can learn a trick or 2.
JB
Are you for real? Is that what the Thais last? That's not what my ex-TG girlfriend said. She said her Thai Boyfriend lasted quite some time. She agreed that farangs were bigger though.
Very good points, AT2, but have you ever read my reports? My price range is usually 300-500 baht all in!
Anyway, you know stereotypes - never always true, but always mostly true.
Opebo, maybe many read your reports. For those who don't know, you should fairly say that for the price you fuck you accept the ugliest crap on 2 legs running around, who I wouldn't touch even if I got played for. But everybody its favorite that’s why the market offers all, the budget, the value and the luxury offer. But thanks for the gymnastics (shaking heads) you provide us almost each evening.
Regards.
Brain666
PS: you know that this is no offense and I admit that I also enjoy some of the discussions between you and some long time established real Bangkok experts.
Evil Penivel
05-08-07, 17:18
Am in Bangkok and Pattaya for only a few days would appriciate any leads on girls who take it in all directions without too much fuss Its not the kind of thing I like to negotiate beforehand and don, t have too much time to waste fishing around.
Regards,
Mr Cabbage
As noted by an earlier poster, anal action is something of a specialty at the Eden club in BKK and the Hell Club in Pattaya. No negotiation is needed. All the ladies who stand on the left side of the line dividing the line up (yellow in Eden, striped yellow-black in Hell Club) do anal. It is just point and dick.
If you aren't familiar with these two establishments, do a forum search. Plenty of detailed info is available.
Evil
NicFrenchy
05-08-07, 19:40
Thai guys are very suave. Watch how they chat up girls. Farangs can learn a trick or 2.Hahaha. Yeah, sure. Then watch them come home drunk and beat the shit out their girl. Or get them Pregnant and throw them out (or leave).
Learn From Thai men? that's the joke of the Century.
NicFrenchy
05-08-07, 19:44
Also a Specialty at TULIP (sukhumvit- BTS Thong Lo).
Aviva Massage Soi 8
Orient Massage Soi 24
Go on their website, they have some girls marked as "anal ok", you can book them in advance.
But I have to agree nothing Beats EDEN... take 2 girls out of the Left of the Yellow line and go on a 90mn Anal Rampage LOL all for 5,000 tip and Drinks included ;)
Totobiscot
05-08-07, 21:26
Hello guys,
Does anyone knows a bar in BKK with dancing Russian girls? I know that these girls are not prostitutes (supposed not! ) but sometimes you get the chance to seduce one and you can take her out (not for free but it's OK).
They are usualy gorgeous and this is what I want.
I went to CM2 last time and I only saw very ordinary girls that don't turn me on.
If anyone can help me finding the high class Russians I would really appreciate.
Thanks
Right now $1000 = approx 34500B so 100B = $3.20 (the old $25/1000B was based on the 40:1 rate and it's 34.5:1 right now)
Jungle Bluebird
05-09-07, 03:05
NicFrenchy
I was referring to the approach, not what happens in Thai marriages or relationships in general.
Thai guys are very sweet with girls. I watch these guys in my office. Very smooth, unlike most of felong guys I know.
For example watch the stunners these guys pull out of the Emporium at shift closure. You can see them driving off on the back on motorcycles.
Where felongs have to pay top coin to get laid, Thai guys are compensate by just being nice. Case in point, many sex workers do support their Thai boyfriends. They may tell you that Thai guys are lousy, yet truth is that your money flows in their pocket.
Higher up in society Thai girls do really stick with Thai guys. No chance for Felongs, and if only for short period of times. Again Thai's win as they are simply sweeter with the girls. Of course cultural parallels and language certainly are the main reason for same race marriages.
Trust me, I think Thai guys are all lazy and spoiled. I rather hire Thai women anytime. But I do give credit to their technique when it comes to chatting up girls.
JB
Hahaha. Yeah, sure. Then watch them come home drunk and beat the shit out their girl. Or get them Pregnant and throw them out (or leave).
Learn From Thai men? that's the joke of the Century.
Pahllus Maximus
05-09-07, 03:19
As of 8th May 2007:-
THB 1000 equals (rounded up):-
USD 30.44 (30.44)
EUR 22.70 (43.90)
GPB 15.27 (64.00)
AUD 36.76 (27.00)
HKD 238.0 (04.15)
THB 1000 is approximately one whole serving of pussy and blow job*.
This is brought as a community service to make transborder cost-of-pussy easy to understand. I am suprised Blackerry do not have an auto-update of spot prices for pussy.
* This depends on long time or short time and varies with girl's prettiness and time of day (eg closing time is much cheaper). Buying for several days lowers the average cost.
My experience is that two girls for full on lesbian action and wake up BJ is the best value, and on a short trip is the best value. I usually get a BJ in a limo to the airport with some chablis, then wave goodbye to the smiling driver and girl before checking in. Thai airways should put a few bar girls in the fisrt class cabin (and an executive cabin) rather than discreet HJ system that presently exists.
Pahllus Maximus
05-09-07, 03:35
This is not as easy as you might think, and I am offering some experience. Firstly, get a cheap Nokia VIBRATING phone. Set the alarm 40 minutes before you have to get up, and set your own alarm for the later time.
METHOD #1:-
The girl wears the phone that discreetly wakes her, but not you. Go to bed naked. If two girls, one starts on the balls and perineum slightly before the other girl sucks.
Correctly done, you wake up dreamily and thinking "this is nice" and then realize you have your knob in a pretty girl's mouth. Great way to start every day, and it's when the diurnal pattern of testosterone is at it peak. I love the warm pillow and nice feeling when you wake up, and then blow and feel marvellous. Then have a nice breakfast and coffee.
Done incorrectly and you get rudely awoken and it spoils what should be a normal experience.
METHOD #2:-
Same as above but have get a nice coffee and green tea. She has the green tea to warm up her mouth, then when you wake up happily the other girl hands you a cup of coffee giggling whilst her friend makes muffled groans.
Be fair: have the girls take turns, and if you fuck one, then you must do the other to prevent jealousy. Good manners are the hallmark of a gentleman.
NicFrenchy
05-09-07, 04:53
JB,
Not to clog the Bangkok Reports Thread, I replied to you in the "Living in Thailand" Thread
NF
This is not as easy as you might think, and I am offering some experience. Firstly, get a cheap Nokia VIBRATING phone. Set the alarm 40 minutes before you have to get up, and set your own alarm for the later time.
METHOD #1:-
The girl wears the phone that discreetly wakes her, but not you. Go to bed naked. If two girls, one starts on the balls and perineum slightly before the other girl sucks.
Correctly done, you wake up dreamily and thinking "this is nice" and then realize you have your knob in a pretty girl's mouth. Great way to start every day, and it's when the diurnal pattern of testosterone is at it peak. I love the warm pillow and nice feeling when you wake up, and then blow and feel marvellous. Then have a nice breakfast and coffee.
Done incorrectly and you get rudely awoken and it spoils what should be a normal experience.
METHOD #2:-
Same as above but have get a nice coffee and green tea. She has the green tea to warm up her mouth, then when you wake up happily the other girl hands you a cup of coffee giggling whilst her friend makes muffled groans.
Be fair: have the girls take turns, and if you fuck one, then you must do the other to prevent jealousy. Good manners are the hallmark of a gentleman.Have always wanted to try that. A couple of good ideas.
Have you tried this yourself?
Are the women receptive to do such a thing????
The rainy season has just started in Bangkok. There are a lot less farangs around than usual. At least that is my impression.
I got to my hotel around 8 PM. I always stay at the Sheraton on Sukhumvit which has very comfortable rooms but is expensive. It also has a convenient lower level entrance. Unfortunately, it is a bit busy, so if you want to take someone with you a little early, you may not be alone in the elevator, meaning you need to be able to stand the people who are very obviously not looking at your girl. The hotel used to have a rather famous nightclub with good live band music but excessively expensive drinks. They still have the club, but no live music anylonger. And whereas the place used to be loaded with gorgeous working girls, they seem to have kept the excessively expensive drink only.
Anyway, I made my first stop at Beergarten Soi 7. Big disappointment. I usually have quite a good time there chatting to the freelancers and occasionally taking one out. Last night there were however very few girls around, and them not my style either. Maybe the rest has gone home for the rainy season?
So I decided to check out a girlie bar on nana, although I stopped doing that a while ago (you know, the girls tend to dance without much inspiration, sit with you for a second and gulp down their drink). Interestingly enough, there were few farangs and I was welcomed as a hero in the first level bar I visited. Also, there were some really good looking girls around. I quickly picked one and she sat with me for most of an hour with just one drink. Could have taken her out for 600 BHT barfine, but declined as I found her boring (consider me mad but I want a girl that talks to me). Anyway, I also wanted to give Eden a try at last. I have been to Bangkok many times, but never visited Eden before. And now I have to be boring, as I can only confirm what other people has said: this is probably the best place in Bangkok. I would almost compare it to the termas in Rio, but I find these still a bit more to my taste. Eden is a little smaller than I had expected it to be (and certainly a lot smaller than the termas mentioned). When you enter it looks like an ordinary bar, not very well organised. The girls are there, but no one comes up to you or anything. You have to walk up to the bar yourself. The French owner is indeed a very nice guy who puts you at your ease at once. I asked to have the menu explained although he is obviously aware that his place is famous now. There were a couple of Japanese guys drinking and obviously assessing whether they would go for it or not, but I declined that part and a lineup was called. At 10 PM there were not that many girls and I didn't see any that I would call stunning. Still there was one who gave me a lovely smile and had a nice body enough (I would give her a 6, but people on this board have called me unusually picky). I let her pick her friend and first thought that was a mistake, but later on it showed that I was the one who was mistaken. The girls took me upstairs through a small corridor and an even smaller elevator to a room of about 3 by 3 with mirrors everywhere. My only observation about the quality of the room is that it could do with more color. The one I selected first gave her name as Apple. They also gave me their Thai names which sounded like Lat Tee and Lat Wee, but I am very bad with names.
Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok. The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.
It was a great experience. They were both very professional, good humoured, very eager to please. The "friend" I thought I was wrong about proved to be the better fuck in the end.
They also put on a lesbian show, although that doesn't do much for me. I tipped them 500 BHT to share between them, but reading other members' posts I may have been stingy.
Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Member #3200
05-09-07, 15:54
I have an option 2 stay at a place on soi 77 off of sukhumvit
I have always stayed in the lower numbers-soi 4-22, can anyone tell me if there's any place for fun in the higher numbers or do I have 2 bust my ass in a taxi or BTS down to the lower numbers for my entertainment purposes.
Member #3200
05-09-07, 15:58
Is there anyone going 2 Pattaya on may 19th from Bangkok, perferably mid morning before noon & would like 2 share a taxi
The same is said for any1 returning 2 BKK from Pattaya mid morning of the 26th I will be arriving in BKK late night on the 18th, hope to hear a reply soon.
Thank you.
NicFrenchy
05-09-07, 17:58
Good review.
Thank you for posting it.
The Old Sheraton Bar was "Rivas" (which I really liked) but they renovated into this new Place "Barsu" (http://www.barsubangkok.com/) which I don't like.
Also, your comment about BG7, it really depends on the time of day and Day of the month.
Usually the best days are monthend because a lot of regular office girls go there to make a few extra thousands (Rent, Loans...)
I have an option 2 stay at a place on soi 77 off of sukhumvit
I have always stayed in the lower numbers-soi 4-22, can anyone tell me if there's any place for fun in the higher numbers or do I have 2 bust my ass in a taxi or BTS down to the lower numbers for my entertainment purposes.Member #3200,
LOL!
Taxi or BTS --> Ass --> Lower Sukhumvit = Entertainment.
Giotto
I was in Bangkok last week for a brief visit. Of course the arrival time was very late in the evening, and the trip really took it out of me. I visited all the regular sppots, but found nothing that caught my attention. After returning to my hotel (the Westin on Sukumvit), I found OGOTO Massage Bankok.
I ordered the Fantasy Body Course, which is a 2 hour massage that included full service, after a body to body rub, and one of the most relaxing massages I have had in years! A great altenative to the massage parlors and the girl was magnificent! Her name is "Naree", and was probably the best GFE I have had in an age. Total damage was 2, 600 Baht plus 200 Baht for the outcall. The phone number is 02-636-3040. Before I left I tried them again, this time with agirl named Jun. Not as good as Naree, but still way above average.
I will definitely use OGOTO again on my next trip to Bangkok. OGOTO does have a web site.
...The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.
Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.
Actually, Fredo, I used to bareback girls at Eden, though that was a few years ago in more prosperous days.
Whether it is still or generally possible to do that I do not know, but at the time it was very easy for me. I have gone back since and many of the girls refuse it, and besides the place is quite expensive, so I never go nowadays.
NicFrenchy
I was referring to the approach, not what happens in Thai marriages or relationships in general.
Thai guys are very sweet with girls. I watch these guys in my office. Very smooth, unlike most of felong guys I know.
For example watch the stunners these guys pull out of the Emporium at shift closure. You can see them driving off on the back on motorcycles.
Where felongs have to pay top coin to get laid, Thai guys are compensate by just being nice. Case in point, many sex workers do support their Thai boyfriends. They may tell you that Thai guys are lousy, yet truth is that your money flows in their pocket.
Higher up in society Thai girls do really stick with Thai guys. No chance for Felongs, and if only for short period of times. Again Thai's win as they are simply sweeter with the girls. Of course cultural parallels and language certainly are the main reason for same race marriages.
Trust me, I think Thai guys are all lazy and spoiled. I rather hire Thai women anytime. But I do give credit to their technique when it comes to chatting up girls.
JB
Most Thai dudes are unemployed so the pooying is earning all the jack in the sack and getting kissed and licked by the farhang while she hands over all the jack to her poochai like a ho to a pimp. Thai foreplay is "wake up, bitz" a little diddle and a quick bone. If she is knobbing the farhang the Thai guy will make her polish his knob too while telling her what a ho she is. Watch the Thai Soaps. A girl is getting smacked around in every episode. I hate to say it but those women thrive on abuse. The minute you show your soft underside to them they will gut you. Many USAF guy lost stripes in Khorat during the Viet Nam war for hooking up with those insidius little critters, only to bring them back to the USA for them to run off with some guy from their province once he gets to California.
Jungle Bluebird
05-11-07, 03:46
Fredo... I hate to say it, but 7 years equals about 5000 times full service (at least). I think she got more then a sore mouth over the years.
The rainy season has just started in Bangkok. There are a lot less farangs around than usual. At least that is my impression.
I got to my hotel around 8 PM. I always stay at the Sheraton on Sukhumvit which has very comfortable rooms but is expensive. It also has a convenient lower level entrance. Unfortunately, it is a bit busy, so if you want to take someone with you a little early, you may not be alone in the elevator, meaning you need to be able to stand the people who are very obviously not looking at your girl. The hotel used to have a rather famous nightclub with good live band music but excessively expensive drinks. They still have the club, but no live music anylonger. And whereas the place used to be loaded with gorgeous working girls, they seem to have kept the excessively expensive drink only.
Anyway, I made my first stop at Beergarten Soi 7. Big disappointment. I usually have quite a good time there chatting to the freelancers and occasionally taking one out. Last night there were however very few girls around, and them not my style either. Maybe the rest has gone home for the rainy season?
So I decided to check out a girlie bar on nana, although I stopped doing that a while ago (you know, the girls tend to dance without much inspiration, sit with you for a second and gulp down their drink). Interestingly enough, there were few farangs and I was welcomed as a hero in the first level bar I visited. Also, there were some really good looking girls around. I quickly picked one and she sat with me for most of an hour with just one drink. Could have taken her out for 600 BHT barfine, but declined as I found her boring (consider me mad but I want a girl that talks to me). Anyway, I also wanted to give Eden a try at last. I have been to Bangkok many times, but never visited Eden before. And now I have to be boring, as I can only confirm what other people has said: this is probably the best place in Bangkok. I would almost compare it to the termas in Rio, but I find these still a bit more to my taste. Eden is a little smaller than I had expected it to be (and certainly a lot smaller than the termas mentioned). When you enter it looks like an ordinary bar, not very well organised. The girls are there, but no one comes up to you or anything. You have to walk up to the bar yourself. The French owner is indeed a very nice guy who puts you at your ease at once. I asked to have the menu explained although he is obviously aware that his place is famous now. There were a couple of Japanese guys drinking and obviously assessing whether they would go for it or not, but I declined that part and a lineup was called. At 10 PM there were not that many girls and I didn't see any that I would call stunning. Still there was one who gave me a lovely smile and had a nice body enough (I would give her a 6, but people on this board have called me unusually picky). I let her pick her friend and first thought that was a mistake, but later on it showed that I was the one who was mistaken. The girls took me upstairs through a small corridor and an even smaller elevator to a room of about 3 by 3 with mirrors everywhere. My only observation about the quality of the room is that it could do with more color. The one I selected first gave her name as Apple. They also gave me their Thai names which sounded like Lat Tee and Lat Wee, but I am very bad with names.
Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok. The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.
It was a great experience. They were both very professional, good humoured, very eager to please. The "friend" I thought I was wrong about proved to be the better fuck in the end.
They also put on a lesbian show, although that doesn't do much for me. I tipped them 500 BHT to share between them, but reading other members' posts I may have been stingy.
Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Retired Army
05-11-07, 09:54
Most Thai dudes are unemployed so the pooying is earning all the jack in the sack and getting kissed and licked by the farhang while she hands over all the jack to her poochai like a ho to a pimp. Thai foreplay is "wake up, bitz" a little diddle and a quick bone. If she is knobbing the farhang the Thai guy will make her polish his knob too while telling her what a ho she is. Watch the Thai Soaps. A girl is getting smacked around in every episode. I hate to say it but those women thrive on abuse. The minute you show your soft underside to them they will gut you. Many USAF guy lost stripes in Khorat during the Viet Nam war for hooking up with those insidius little critters, only to bring them back to the USA for them to run off with some guy from their province once he gets to California.
There is some truth to what you write. However, I assume that you are referring to bar girls and only bar girls. Most good, honest, decent and respectible Thai girls would love to have a guy who is sensitive to their needs and doesn't treat them like shit.
I know Army guys from Udorn who married bar girls and took them back to "the land of the big P.X." only to have them screw around and then split with the first guy who could give them something a little better.
NicFrenchy
05-11-07, 13:39
I found OGOTO Massage Bankok.
the girl was magnificent! Her name is "Naree", and was probably the best GFE I have had in an age.
I tried them again, this time with agirl named Jun. Not as good as Naree, but still way above average.Attached are pics of Naree and Jun.
Both are 24 Years old (although Naree looks like 34)
I too was in Korat during the VN experience and it was really tough to watch some of the younger guys get wrapped up in a pooying. Part of the problem was caused by the fact that these kids could not get laid in the States and the poying was the first piece of regular tail they had ever experienced. Add in a few BJ's and these guys thought they were heaven. They all wanted to take their little LBFM home.
A lot of us older guys spend many hours over many beers trying to convinve them that their Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bare
................ Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bare
EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.
Checking their website, it is very difficult to understand what the various services are? What is the standard total price for the massage and HJ/BJ/FS? If the pictures are accurate, they have some very nice looking young ladies.
EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.
I had the same problem. Fresh from the country - had never seen a farang toilet before. She actually broke the seat. Been with her 8 years now and we often laugh about it. She couldn't understand why the toilet was raised up so high, but couldn't bring herself to ask why!
Retired Army
05-12-07, 09:35
EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.
Have you ever met one who squated and pissed in the corner of the room? Back in the 60's when GI's first came to Thailand this was common.
Have you ever met one who squated and pissed in the corner of the room? Back in the 60's when GI's first came to Thailand this is common.
On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny!
Vinny_Viagra
05-12-07, 19:06
On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny!
We hired a servant girl back in the 70s. She was strong as an ox and her feet were bigger than mine. My wife had to drive her to the doctor one time. When she got inside our little volkswagon beetle instead of sitting on the front seat she squated on it. We taught her to sit correctly. She was good at her job, honest and fun to show her new things.
v
I too was in Korat during the VN experience and it was really tough to watch some of the younger guys get wrapped up in a pooying. Part of the problem was caused by the fact that these kids could not get laid in the States and the poying was the first piece of regular tail they had ever experienced. Add in a few BJ's and these guys thought they were heaven. They all wanted to take their little LBFM home.
A lot of us older guys spend many hours over many beers trying to convinve them that their Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bareYour post reminded me of a posting I saw recently at www.walraven.org/vietnam/the_early_years.html
scroll down to the title Japan 1965. Jack Walraven joined the dutch navy in '62 and he describes losing his virginity to a bargirl in Japan; the bar scene and love hotel and the overall great experience he had. I am sure you guys have similar experiences to share. Sounds like a great time!
Play often and stay safe, HG
Evil Penivel
05-13-07, 02:04
Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok.
I know Apple very well - she' a wonderful lady. What she doesn't know about giving a man pleasure, nobody does. She's also great to spend time with outside the sack. And it's definitely true the management at Eden takes sexual health very seriously. I once spent 10 days with an Eden lady (not Apple). One afternoon she had to go to the doctor for her weekly check-up -I sat in the reception room and waited for her. Without the "all-clear" certificate, she wouldn't be allowed to work at Eden. She said there were no exceptions. The one thing that's not avilable at Eden at any price is bareback intercourse. The girls themselves are very strict with each other on that point. They wouldn't tolerate a lady who took rissk that endangered everyone.
Evil
On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny!
What did you do for toilet paper? Leaves? I thought they used it for fertilzer.
there is some truth to what you write. however, i assume that you are referring to bar girls and only bar girls. most good, honest, decent and respectible thai girls would love to have a guy who is sensitive to their needs and doesn't treat them like shit.
i know army guys from udorn who married bar girls and took them back to "the land of the big p.x." only to have them screw around and then split with the first guy who could give them something a little better.
i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.
Retired Army
05-13-07, 08:03
i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.
i know many guys that are happily married to thai women, some for more than 30 years. somehow they have managed the family thing. my gf doesn't like her family and couldn't care less about them, so her support for them is minimal. she thinks they are lazy thai "rednecks" from the sticks. (i can't wait for her to meet my family in kentucky.) my gf is pretty westernized when she needs to be and traditional when it comes to taking care of me and ensuring i am happy.
the ones with the most successful thai marriages are farangs who were married to fat, bitchy ball-busting western women, like i was.
Crocodilexp
05-13-07, 21:56
It would be nice to see more posts on BKK action (especially street action) off the beaten track (that being lower Sukhumwit, Patpong & the usual massage places). I tried browsing the thread for a while, but not much comes up.
Few questions:
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* Are Indian girls available anywhere in BKK? I had one in Chiang Mai a while back...
* Are there any decent Russians/Farang girls around (for less than 3k baht ST?). Hanging around Sukhumwit Soi 3, all I saw were ugly girls well over their prime (I suspect from the 'stans -- no blue eyes anywhere).
* Where's the Thai action? Regular Thai guys must be getting it somewhere, and cheap, I suspect (I don't count Poseidon in this class).
Some locations:
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* There's quite a bit of street action off Yaowarat (Chinatown). Easiest way to get into the area is to take MRT (Subway) to Hualamphong (main railway station), cross the klong to the west, and then take a small street to the left.
* Focus of the action is Yaowarat Soi 14 (+ small alleys near Texas massage).
* Charoen Krung Rd (parallel to Yaowarat to the north) has some action as well
* Going north from Yaowarat on MitrPan Rd, you'll reach a traffic circle. There are many ugly streetwalkers in the area (all spoke roads from the circle). I was quoted 300 baht, but they were all rather bad looking.
* Have seen a few street girls (not bad looking) near Lumphini MRT, but was with GF so didn't investigate.
Some of this was posted before, but I'm a fan of summaries, and not a look-it-up purist -- most info on the board is fairly repetitive anyway.
Mapping: www.moffle.com has a good map of BKK (search for Yaowarat / zoom in on the area). Google maps itself now has great BKK coverage, but street names are in Thai.
Actual experience
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In Yaowarat Soi 14, there are 3 Chinese girls in red pants (seen them on 3 occasions). I got the chubby, 32 y.o. one with big breasts. She spoke neither Thai nor English so we negotiated by writing down the number -- she quoted 1000 baht at first, but settled for 700. Went to a dirty ST room in a sub-soi (near Texas massage?) for 150 baht. She was OK and very compliant -- quick shower (which I had an impression she didn't really want) + CBJ + fairly vigorous FS. Honestly, I didn't have the balls to ask for BBBJ with this one. During doggy-style sex, she gargled and threw a huge spit across the room (nasty). Very different than a Thai, but I did enjoy the sheer nastiness of it, along with the big white tits, vigorous shag and pretty feet (why do almost all Thai girls have awful feet?). Living in BKK, it's nice to try something different once in a while (so I can appreciate the run-of-the-mill Thai BG more).
Forced Hand
05-13-07, 23:35
I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.
Jimmy Red Cab
05-14-07, 00:46
I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.
If you really can't do both, they are less than two hours apart, then I suggest Pattaya.
I used to love Bangkok but the girls have become far more business minded than their "sisters" in Pattaya, the Bangkok Go-Go girls are now quoting and getting 2000 baht short time with long time not even an option in some cases. In Pattaya the girls are less likely to discuss the financial side of the "date" and most would be happy with 1000 baht long time, there are always exceptions though so buyer beware.
Member #2041
05-14-07, 00:54
I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.
If your flight arrives at a reasonable time, the trip to Pattaya from the airport is only around 90 minutes drive from Soyouwannaboom airport. So, it really is only an hour each way further than Sukhumvit.
That being said, I prefer Bangkok to Pattaya, but I am certainly in the minority, and the lower prices are surely in Pattaya.
Lover Of Fours
05-14-07, 04:08
I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.
Thanks!
Jungle Bluebird
05-14-07, 04:25
RA
Agree with this one. I never met any of the families of my Thai g/f's. Couldn't care less and made this clear to GF's. Why bother sitting with family with a stupid smile pretending to be a nice chap.
Cultural gap is simply to big. And quite frankly I find nothing charming about rural Thai culture. Some of my ex's were true city girls, meaning family had moved to BKK a generation earlier. Also here I was not keen to meet mon and dad.
I found that all my G/F's understood my point. Subsequently I never got bothered with family issues.
JB
I know many guys that are happily married to Thai women, some for more than 30 years. Somehow they have managed the family thing. My GF doesn't like her family and couldn't care less about them, so her support for them is minimal. She thinks they are lazy Thai "rednecks" from the sticks. (I can't wait for her to meet my family in Kentucky.) My GF is pretty Westernized when she needs to be and traditional when it comes to taking care of me and ensuring I am happy.
The ones with the most successful Thai marriages are farangs who were married to fat, bitchy ball-busting western women, like I was.
Sean_Double
05-14-07, 04:30
I don't know one happy story. I keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out.
Blue Daddy,
With an attitude like that you won't ever have the option of a "happy story." Guys that sucessfully marry Thai women, not to mention bargirls, don't usually sit around and talk about it too much to tourists, or post on sex sites. Think about it; where's the motivation or interest.
Cheers,
Sean
Jungle Bluebird
05-14-07, 07:20
I thing we better move that over to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036.
Exactly the same issue, and where it rightly belongs: Thai Women - Opinions & Advice
Thanks. JB.
Retired Army
05-14-07, 07:23
I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.
Thanks!
if you are going to bareback how about staying the hell out of Thailand. We don't need more diseases.
If barebacking is what you seek, how about a nice trip to Sub-Saharan Africa, I hear Uganda is nice this time of year.
Retired Army
05-14-07, 07:26
I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.
They both offer different things. As a resident I prefer Bangkok, as a tourist with three days (and not knowing any better) I would probably go to Pattaya. In five years of living in Thailand I went to Pattaya twice and that was one time too many.
Magic Moments
05-14-07, 09:45
It would be nice to see more posts on BKK action (especially street action) off the beaten track (that being lower Sukhumwit, Patpong & the usual massage places). I tried browsing the thread for a while, but not much comes up.
Few questions:
---
* Are Indian girls available anywhere in BKK? I had one in Chiang Mai a while back...
Actual experience
---
In Yaowarat Soi 14, there are 3 Chinese girls in red pants (seen them on 3 occasions). I got the chubby, 32 y.o. one with big breasts. She spoke neither Thai nor English so we negotiated by writing down the number -- she quoted 1000 baht at first, but settled for 700. Went to a dirty ST room in a sub-soi (near Texas massage?) for 150 baht. She was OK and very compliant -- quick shower (which I had an impression she didn't really want) + CBJ + fairly vigorous FS. Honestly, I didn't have the balls to ask for BBBJ with this one. During doggy-style sex, she gargled and threw a huge spit across the room (nasty). Very different than a Thai, but I did enjoy the sheer nastiness of it, along with the big white tits, vigorous shag and pretty feet (why do almost all Thai girls have awful feet?). Living in BKK, it's nice to try something different once in a while (so I can appreciate the run-of-the-mill Thai BG more).Hi Croc,
1. There are a few Indian WGs in BKK. I have seen a couple of them on my visits, but never tried one. Most of the Indian girls(99.9%) that you find in BKK are tourists. Try your charms , may be you can bed one, some of them are quite happy to be with westerners. BUT my question is WHY you want Indian pussy in BKK when you have so much good stuff available. If you are really keen taste Indian pussy visit Bombay or New Delhi. Can be quite expensive when compared to LOS.
2. MY conclusion about feet (I could be wrong). The average BG that you pick up is from upcountry and has had a tough child hood and adolecent life. Most of the time she may not have been wearing any kind of shoe/ slippers and would have put in a few years on a farm. You can guess how her feet would be. LOL,
MagicM
I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.
Thanks!The ones you used to know 1-3 years ago are probably dead. And yes I'm serious.
Alejandro66
05-14-07, 10:34
i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.
buledaddy,
i agree about every single word you wrote.
that's the reason why i never get involved with a thai girl and i never will.
just fuck them, more than one time if she worths the effort, and forget them.
there are so many around...
alex
Silly Fool
05-14-07, 11:41
If you really can't do both, they are less than two hours apart, then I suggest Pattaya.
I used to love Bangkok but the girls have become far more business minded than their "sisters" in Pattaya, the Bangkok Go-Go girls are now quoting and getting 2000 baht short time with long time not even an option in some cases. In Pattaya the girls are less likely to discuss the financial side of the "date" and most would be happy with 1000 baht long time, there are always exceptions though so buyer beware.
Read my January report esp. re soi cowboy-long time was definitely off the menu
I would suggest Livingstones Lodge or a friendly massage parlour worker who slips you her phone number for a long term liason..
For those staying in or close to Bangkok on Wednesday, 16.05.2007:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=597371
We started those Champagne Nights in January, and it has become a popular but classy event, a bit different from the usual bar parties of Bangkok's entertainment areas. Thai women obviously really like Champagne :) ...
For people who are not familiar with Soi 33 it might be an occasion to check the local hostess bars out. Recommended are The Office Bar, Monet and Renoir (later in the night), and of course our Sports Lounge.
For the future: We could also initiate something like a round table for ISG members who are in town. The Champagne night could be the montly date of such an event, because it will always take place on weekdays. If somebody is interested in this idea - Giotto will be in the Sports Lounge on Wednesday to discuss that.
The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
* Going north from Yaowarat on MitrPan Rd, you'll reach a traffic circle. There are many ugly streetwalkers in the area (all spoke roads from the circle). I was quoted 300 baht, but they were all rather bad looking.
Maitri Chit (One of the streets off the traffic circle) -
Plenty of action in this street - from 250-400 baht, plus 70 for the room. Looks are pretty average, stretch marks etc - and the performance is hit and miss. It's all pretty basic, but for a change of scene and a bit of 'nasty' variety it's a bit of fun - and it's certainly cheap!
Just take an MRT to Hua Lamphong head over the klong and you're there
NicFrenchy
05-14-07, 16:32
if you are going to bareback how about staying the hell out of Thailand. We don't need more diseases.Excellent Answer. I agree 100% with this.
Member #2041
05-14-07, 18:05
Love_of_Fours: Try Haiti or Somalia. You'll find that there is a stigma against condoms in those places. And since everyone is already infected in those places, there is really no need for them anymore.
Raphael Lovaa
05-15-07, 02:02
Hi guys
Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?
Thx,
Crazy Rapha
Sean_Double
05-15-07, 03:58
BuleDaddy,
I agree about every single word you wrote.
That's the reason why I never get involved with a thai girl and I never will.
Just fuck them, more than one time if she worths the effort, and forget them.
There are so many around...
Alex
Need I say more?
Cheers,
Sean
I don't know one happy story. I keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. My cousin married a once beautiful college educated Filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. This dude is miserable. His wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. .
The you are hanging out with a rough bunch of blokes. First of all , anybody who marries a Flipper and doesn't think she is gonna get fat is an idiot to begin with. Flippers are the worst agers of SE Asia. Over 30 and the acceleration begins and catches up with the west rather quickly.
My friends (not friends of friends), and that is about 5 of them, are still married to their Thai birds, with the longest being 7 years now.
Crocodilexp
05-15-07, 07:52
Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?For Chinese, try Chinatown - Yaowarat Soi 14 and around (see my previous post a few days back for details). There are a few Chinese streetwalkers around there, but none especially young or pretty. Expect to pay 500-1000 ST. That's all I know -- you can try exploring the Yaowarat area more, and post back your findings :)
For Thai Chinese (or lookalike), I'd try some of the more upscale massage parlors (say, around HuaiKwang MRT) -- they have white and clean Thai girls. Expect to pay 2-4000 for 1-2h.
For me, Chinese girls are clearly better looking than Thai (and age better as well), but Thais are definitely more relaxed and fun to be around.
Unfortunately, in Thailand, most Thai Chinese is that most are upper class (or can at least be a mia-noi to a rich Thais), and therefore don't need this sort of work.
Retired Army
05-15-07, 10:30
Hi guys
Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?
Thx,
Crazy Rapha
I would probably start looking in Chinatown
Hi all, some notes from my usual trip to LOS, April 24 to May 8. Two nights in Bangkok. I will omit bars I did not like.
Patpong: each time I come I see more restaurants and fewer bars. Enough said. An old legend like Pink Panther renamed (Panther) and reshaped as a "normal" open bar. Camelot Castle still has some nice ladies. Everything else going downhill.
Nana: believe it or not, they close at 1 a.m. Yes. I was kicked out twice at 01h05m !! Rainbow 4 has many quality girls but this is what happened to us. We (2 good looking 40something) enter this bar at around 11 o'clock. A couple of ladies come and sit immediately on our laps. They are clearly high, drunk or both. They start the usual routine, touching, rubbing, ass-shaking. I do not like it this way so I stay still. Suddenly my girl stands up, goes to a farang, talks for a few seconds then grabs his beer and comes back sitting on my lap with the farang's beer in her hand. Farang looks no happy. I decide to leave the place to avoid problems. So beware: many girls, some very nice, but management is clearly out of control.
G-spot was better than usual, although average is still low compared to the past : but I found a real gem. Not perfect because she had a baby 8 months ago, but so warm and passionate I could hardly believe my luck. She fixed her eyes on me as soon as I entered the place but was too shy to approach me or smile. So I called her and she was just a great person and a great fuck. She told me the story of her young (20 y.) life, so many problems but such a positive attitude and love for life and for her daughter: a refreshing experience like the girls I met 15 years ago in Pattaya, happy, naive (but not stupid) and willing. Amazing Thailand.
Russian hookers (and kazakh and the likes) not anymore around Ambassador hotel, police regularly cleaning up the venue. They will not be missed.
One sad note: Hair Design in Sukhumvit soi 11/1 has been closed! One of the oldest barbers in town (at least 15 years!!) is out of business and I was one of their last customers on their last day. Shame, it was a great place with very friendly ladies.
Follows in the Pattaya section. Cheers!
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NicFrenchy
05-16-07, 06:23
Nice insight. Thanks.
Member #3200
05-16-07, 16:50
Is there anybody going & willing 2 share a taxi from BKK(lower sukhumvit) 2 Pattaya early-mid morning on the 19th of May, PM me if you are
The same is said for the return trip from Pattaya back 2 BKK on the 26th around the same time
Thank you & I hope 2 hear from you
Is the bus station off of Ekkami BTS station?
How much is cab fare from soi 7 2 bus station?
SidTheSexist
05-17-07, 04:32
How much is cab fare from soi 7 2 bus station?Its about 1 quid or 2 dollars! Jeeysus! Deal with it man!!!
Unknown9398
05-18-07, 16:19
i just returned to korea from a week in bangkok, may 12-18, 2007. my report follows.
hotel was the president park. very good hotel. completely guest friendly. taxis right outside the front door all day and night. starbucks across the street. price was about us$71 a night.
for my first night, i booked an escort from rendevous, and called them an hour before she was to arrive to provide my room number. name was thida. when she arrived, she was not as good looking as her photo on the web site, but i expected as much. thida was tiny...5'2" or so, and petite all over...just the way i like them. twenty-five years old. i'd rate her a solid 7. her english was poor, but we tried talking for a while anyway. soon she was massaging my shoulders and it didn't take long for me to hoist her onto my shoulder and move the action to the king size bed. she delivered everything her agency advertised including bbbj and cim. very sensual, very hot girl.
the next day, i went to leyana spa, a non-sensual massage place, to work out the kinks. had a milky salt scrub first, a head, shoulders & back massage, and finished up with a foot massage. as i was having the foot massage, my lower back started to tighten up, so the masseuse, air, gave me a nice introduction to traditional thai massage that really loosened me up.
the second night, i went to soi 33 to visit livingstone's sports bar. arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. i took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either oh or jang. oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but i was intrigued by the dark and beautiful jang (rating - 8.5). twenty-six years old. mistake. she wasn't a starfish, but close. the worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. we took a shower beforehand, and i watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. i mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. jang was apologetic, and i was nice about it. paid her and sent her home.
the third night, i decided to try on soi cowboy for size. first, i stopped in the dutch pub on the corner for a nice big pint of heineken. then, i cruised up and down the street a few times trying to decide which place to enter. i peeked in a couple, and finally settled on shark. there were about a dozen girls dancing in each of two shifts, with more coming in all the time. at it's peak, there were 15 or more dancing. i grabbed a seat and took a look. there were some very nice looking girls. most about 7, plus a few 6's, 8's and 9's. a very pretty lady with very fair skin, a perfect, slender figure and chin length hair caught my eye. she was #91, name is dee. unlike most of the girls, she danced in rhythm to the music. when she sat down with me, she was bubbly and cute and a lot of fun, so i barfined her. she was a ball of energy and we had a ball together. took her back to the president park lt. her body was fantastic. she went the extra mile to make me "happy."
there was another dancer at shark i wanted to take with us but didn't...tall, with long, light brown hair...#64, i think. the only reason i didn't go back for her the next day was she appeared to be a little shy, which doesn't usually indicate a great performer. anyway, i decided that from now on, i'll look for girls that dance well. i think it means they're a little more upbeat and likely to give me what i'm looking for...performance. i also learned that price is *not* an indication of quality. after all, i paid the least for dee, and she was the best of the three. second report to follow when i feel like it. lol.
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I saw that B/G for a few days each time, during my 2 trips to BKK, this year. She said that she was new (SC hostess; the type that try to get customers inside the bar) to the trade and really seemed like she was. She spoke only a few words of English and did not have the usual routine.
The first time that I barfined her, we went to my hotel and, as the kissing, caressing got pretty hot, we missed the condom step. "Studip!": Yes, I know.
And more stupid is the fact that we did not use a condom for any of the numerous following sessions. We kept saying that we had to use one, the next time around, but! She always stayed overnight in my room.
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.
Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).
Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?
I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.I just came back from Bangkok and found out (and checked) that she was not the one that had sent that email; a friend of hers had used her computer and email address to send that unsigned email.
The friend got in touch with the guy, who helped her to resolve the problem.
Another friend of her told me the classic "you take care of her and she stops working". When I told her, she laughed.
I told her that she was young and should try to get a decent job. I said that I would help her she is makes that move and effort, but I am not sure that she has the will to go back to the real world with a tiny paycheck.
For now, she took a one month break and stays alternatively with her Sister and her Mom.
She does not have (yet) most of the bad habits of the bar girls and has frequent arguments with her roommate (a classic bar girl, who was her classmate) about her lazyness, money issues, etc.
What is your experience with girls who a had a short stint in the business and go back to a normal job ? Also, what kind a job are they usually able to do ?
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks
......
The second night, I went to Soi 33 to visit Livingstone's Sports Bar. Arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. I took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either Oh or Jang. Oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but I was intrigued by the dark and beautiful Jang (rating - 8.5). Twenty-six years old. Mistake. She wasn't a starfish, but close. The worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. We took a shower beforehand, and I watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. I mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. Jang was apologetic, and I was nice about it. Paid her and sent her home.
...
OOps, interesting. From name and your description I had Jang for 4 consecutive nights and my experience was completely different (still assuming we are talking about the same girl). In my case it was a top notch experience and I can’t complain any, but rather I was impressed about her.
Not sure what caused my experience to be so much different. In my case no special fluid was used (at least I didn’t notice it and also any smell- the pussy was delicious).
Based on my experience: My ‘style’ is to start relaxed without any hurry to put dick into pussy quickly and while I let her pay some attention to me first (which is the usual begin of purchased entertainment) in the following I then pay attention to the girl first – more or less play with her body and figure out her sensitive zones besides the primary breasts and pussy. With this paying attention to the unusual sensitive erotic zones (kind of body eating there) which probably not many customers ‘touch/ kiss’ I achieve great success with almost all girls I have, providing at the end a total GFE and get ‘serviced’ in return like the boyfriend they would like to marry. Depending on the girl, sometimes it takes her a second round to be ready to ‘put’ any business attitude aside and enjoy as woman.
Usually I should get paid for that, but I am compensated with a great attitude and performance as well.
The same in my case with Jang. After feeling completely relaxed in the room- she was already somehow relaxed and feeling comfortable during the pre talks in the Sports Lounge with was a key for me to barfine her as I felt we can come along well.- being triggered by my stimulation of her sensitive ‘non primary sexual’ parts she turned quickly into what I call ‘total Girlfriend Mode’ beyond the usual GFE.
She was enjoying herself (better: allowed herself to enjoy herself – giving up control about the customer and let me control) and skyrocketing first in cowboy style and then in other positions. She used my dick as a toy for her satisfaction and I supported her multiple comings. Unbelievable. This was one of the best girl reactions I had in my life and of course it is fun for you too. I delayed my coming, was much longer and stone hard as ‘my age and performance these days usually allows’ and had overall great fun.
Because of this perfect match I continued barfining her for the next days and we both had a great time. It was like a loving couple and a perfect GF/ BF relation in the beginning phase. I am sure that for her it was somehow a bit beyond a typical BG Customer relation and probably created some new ‘benchmark’ for herself.
So I hope that I didn’t ruin the atmosphere for some of you fellow mongers with that. However as I experience and a well known rule for many mongers:
The perfect match for me may not be the perfect match for you and the other way around.
In your case as you tell the smell of that fluid destroyed the atmoshere and I can imagine that for me this would have been a major turndown as well. To then come into good mute is difficult, also for the girl who is for sure also somehow anxious about it after your complain. Two such unsettled people supposed to have an intimate session, that just doesn't work out fine. So it was the right move to stop the session. Would have domne the same. But Shark girls finally 'compensated' you later. Good to read.
Regards
Brain666
Sake Lover
05-19-07, 08:08
Hi,
It's been a few years since my first visit to BKK. In anticipation for my return trip this year, I wanted to ask if anyone had any updates on the action at Riva's at the Sukhumvit Marriott.
Is the action and pickings at Riva's still exciting as it was 2 years ago?
And has anyone come across a mid-30's gal there named, I believe, Kong. Maybe I forgot the name entirely, but she spoke far better English than most girls at Riva's, she has a daughter, and lived in another country when she was married in the past.
NicFrenchy
05-19-07, 09:10
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks£800 = 50,000 THB.
14 nights of Mongering @ 3,000 per night (Drinks, Barfine, ST/LT, Food for Tilac) = 45,000 thb (Rubbers, Lube...)
Hotel Room for 14 nights = 14,000
Food for yourself (assuming Cheap Thai Food) = 3,000 for 2 weeks
Gifts/Souvenirs = 5,000 THB
We're @ Roughly 70,000 THB (staying cheap) = £1,080
M P Lurker
05-19-07, 09:34
Originally Posted by Unknown9398
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The second night, I went to Soi 33 to visit Livingstone's Sports Bar. Arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. I took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either Oh or Jang. Oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but I was intrigued by the dark and beautiful Jang (rating - 8.5). Twenty-six years old. Mistake. She wasn't a starfish, but close. The worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. We took a shower beforehand, and I watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. I mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. Jang was apologetic, and I was nice about it. Paid her and sent her home.
OOps, interesting. From name and your description I had Jang for 4 consecutive nights and my experience was completely different (still assuming we are talking about the same girl). In my case it was a top notch experience and I can’t complain any, but rather I was impressed about her.
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Regards
Brain666
This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.
Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.
I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.
Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.
P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).
This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.
Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.
I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.
Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.
P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).
As already said I also can underline ML's comments as well, especially the personality and the honest nature. I would even go so far that I could recommend her for beeing a good wife for partnertship/ marriage which I wouldn't typically say from a girl in this job. I guess someone will do it and I definitely whish her a good life, better then the one she had so far. She is worth it.
I would even betting with OTH (she is Isaan) that she is more worth and better then some of his high educated 'good' students/ girlfriends ;) with high confirdence to win the bet.
Enclosed are my reports from my stay in Livingstones where I gave her the name 'cuddle cat'.
592073
592714
regards
Brain666
Alejandro66
05-19-07, 10:47
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks
It depends...
800 pounds in 14 days means a little less than 52.000 baht. So it's 3700 baht per day.
If you have to pay the hotel (let's say 700 baht per night) you have 3.000 baht per day.
Consider taxis in Bkk, trip to pattaya and back, some shopping -t-shirt at least- and eating ) you will have about 2.000 baht to spend for fun every day.
In my opinion that's not much.
You sould have double than that. So consider to bring about 300 punds more.
I hope this could help,
Alex
Unexpectedly back in BKK after 6 months only to find that I need to correct my last post (already! ). The constantly changing face of P4P in BKK, I suppose. So to now update my previous posts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=492371&highlight=safari#post492371
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537150&highlight=safari#post537150
Safari bar. Patpong: in the past this has been one of my my favourites but 6 months ago I had to accept that this was one of the slowest bars to be found. But while researching for this trip, a reliable site recommended Safari as the top bar in Patpong. So I had to go back. It was early in the evening and found myself the only punter in the bar. Settled in with a beer and noticed that the standard of girls in the row by the door was actually quite good. And then I was joined by Mew. It was all over, Rover. Mew is probably the most naturally beautiful girls I've ever seen. 24yo, tall (5'10), slim but not skinny, easily a perfect 10 but I'm happy to take a point off for two crooked teeth. English was pretty reasonably, and she was fun to be with. And no make-up needed to cover any imperfections. Oh to take her home! Tried for LT but the best offer I could get was 2hrs ST. We didn't even get to price because I don't do ST. If anyone knows who I'm talking about, I'd be interested in your opinion of her looks. It was my first stop for the night so I know I wasn't wearing beer goggles! Safari Bar is back on my list of haunts!
Apache. Soi Cowboy: Oh dear. Went back to see if a cutie from last visit still gyrated there but was sorely disappointed in all respects. There was one semi-cute girl in the herd who I tipped more out of pity than anything.
Siamese Twins. Just off Soi Cowboy: read a report that this bar was the scruffiest in the area and full of Isaan girls sharing a brain. But fun with some beauties. Went there to see for myself. All true. Even the beauties. Not a dance bar because there's no room but the girls are fun and it can be quite a good place to start or finish the evening. Visited a few times and never begrudged a penny I spent there. Probably the only bar where you'll find cleaning fluid on the shelf next to the scotch. One way to mix your drinks, I suppose.
Our Place. Soi Cowboy: Disappointed despite recommendations. Nothing pretty to be seen except one sexy little feline who jumped me as I was finishing my beer. Not enough for me to stick around for though.
Long Gun. Soi Cowboy: Always busy and ended up seated at the bar. I've worked a few bars in my time but all were bigger than a matchbox. Having said that, if you're interested in hygene, don't sit next to the bar. All will be revealed. They still put on good shows and the girls are generally pretty good, but I still rate Rawhide above Long Gun, only because you get Long Gun without the busy-ness.
Rawhide. Soi Cowboy: Unashamedly my favourite haunt although I was disappointed to find that both the Nymphette and Minx from a previous report had gone and that, to some extent, the standard of girls had dropped a little. Having said that, there's still quite a number of cuties. Rawhide at least try to put on a good show, but I really had to draw the line at the dance number in see-thru plastic rubbish bags. No matter how you try and say it, a plastic rubbish bag isn't sexy. Even after 10 beers. All that said, I hooked onto a tall and lithe cutie (Pim) and took her home a couple of times. 600 BF and 2500 LT. I won't pretend that there was anything special in bed. Lovely body, very small breasts (which I like) and a deliciously tight pussy. Great starfish. Still, she was great company. Affectionate, undemanding, GFE. Knew no English and would just twitter away in Thai like a cat mewing. To this day I have no idea what she was talking about!
Dollhouse. Soi Cowboy: On my last visit I met young Kaew and had kept in contact with her. She knew I was going to be in BKK and wanted to see me. I turned up at Dollhouse unexpectedly, settled myself in with a drink, searched the room for her and found her a few seats down from me. Moments later she was on me with the most passionate DFK ever! Welcome back, honey! She dumped her friend for the night and a short time later we were out the door and back to the hotel. In the hotel she was all over me and we shared some luxurious DFK. Then to the shower for plenty of soap, shared washing and a shared towel down after. And then to bed. The rest becomes something of a blur (or was that just my ass in the moonlight? ). I'd been awake for more than 24 hours having just got into BKK. But we managed a 6 pop night. As if my amazement wasn't enough, she said that 2 is usually enough for her. 1 at night and 1 in the morning. There was nothing out of the ordinary, but it was some of the wildest sex I'd ever had. Or so I thought. Had to work the next day so swung back by Dollhouse after 10pm to collect Kaew as promised. I was a little late and Kaew thought I wasn't coming so had hit the Thai whiskey which made for an interesting night. Headed back to the hotel again. I was tired coming off the back of a day's work and a 30 hour day before so was happy for a pop and sleep. She had other ideas. Firstly, a bath. Filled to the brim so that I'm sure the floor below was getting seepage. Fooled around in the bath for awhile and then to bed. Kaew's hotspot is her breasts. It only takes a lick and she's aroused; anything more and you'd better be prepared. First pop was pretty active and I was ready for sleep. Kaew wasn't going to stop there. Wrapped another condom over me and started riding me like a banshee, moaning and pressing her nipples in my mouth. She climbed off me and pressed her pussy against my mouth for DATY. Imagine her at the head of the bed, arms pressed against the wall as she grinds her shaved, wet pussy in my face while moaning loudly. And every position imaginable followed. I've never been treated to anything like it and to put this in context, the last time I met her I reported she was good for a GFE experience but nothing earthmoving. Sent Kaew on her way the next day and vowed to stay away from her for a few days while my cock straightened itself out. Which is where Pim from Rawhide came in useful! I met up with Kaew one more time and she told me that she'd had an offer from a "boyfriend" to move her off the circuit and into an apartment and that she was probably going to accept. But as she was still only thinking about it, it was still ok to get feral just one more time. And all on the house. Sorry guys, one hell of a curtain call and now she's out of the game.
I miss the LOS =: 0(
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In my normal state of regular insomnia, I get up at night when I cannot sleep, and I walk. It loosens stiff muscles and clears the mind. So I was wide awake at 2.30 am, in bed in the Nana hotel, with the gf. I decided to take a walk. Got dressed quietly, let myself out. My first impression was the Nana hotel car park. Although I had read mention of this many times on this forum, I was stunned by the number of girls. There must have been a hundred. All sizes and shapes. Far outnumbering the available men. Lots of final negotiations in train. I waked further along Soi 4, and was accosted by a number of lady boys. Must have been their beat.
Walked back to Sukhumvit, and then along Suk itself. There were a lot of women still looking for the final hook up. Huge number of opportunities.
There is a flourishing street restaurant between Sois 5 and 7, specializing in hot pot meals. All you would need to do is sit down, and they will come to you. Further along, about Soi 13 is another larger street restaurant, lots of couples, often guys with two or three girls at the table. As I walked, and explored the sois, there were lots of girls offering business. So even at 3.30, there is plenty on offer.
The surprising thing was that when I got back to the Nana car park at 3.30, the place was empty. Maybe the staff had pushed the girls out, maybe they had left of their own accord, all deals completed.
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks
Without knowing your tastes and interests, I'm inclined to agree with Alex. £800 doesn't sound like it will be enough unless you plan to monger only every other day. This doesn't necessarily mean you have to bring more money with you. There are plenty of ATMs. Just have another £800 or so accessable in your account. You probably won't need all of it, but its good to have extra to cover unexpected expenses.
Cheers,
F2
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks
You should describe more of your tastes and interests.
Lets assume cheaper Pattaya, not the cheapest hotel, some quality in girls (not rock bottom type) then I would calculate:
Mongering: 1 LT/ day + 1 ST or Massage parlor or such, barfine, lady drinks.
3000-4000 Baht/ day as an average (about 2000 LT/ 1000 ST 1500 Massage, 600 barfine some lady drinks) -(4000 used for summary as you are here for mongering mainly)
Hotel: 1000-1500 / day (but also 700/ day is possible) (1200 baht used for summary)
Food, your drinks, some girl’s food: 1000-1500/ day (1200 used for summary)
Transportation: 200/ day + 1500 airport and back.
Using 13 Days for multiply = 87300 baht = 1355 GBP.
This should allow you reasonable quality in girls, accommodation and food.
Savings in girls cost: I would rather skip the ST session when you pick quality LLLT providers. Here it depends on your attitude. If you represent the gentle ones among the British visitors your LT mileage can go long ways and you save money when the girl is keen to stay until afternoon and likes you. However this depends on the girls variety you plan. More variety = more cost.
Regards
Brain666
PS: If you need rock bottom cost (absolute minimum), probably opebo may give you the lowest achievable, however with heavy compromises in quality required then.
My pleasure. By the way, I have read yesterday on another forum that Rainbow 4 in Nana (the bar where I had that strange experience) was supposed to be shut down by police on May 15th. Is anybody able to confirm that?
PS: If you need rock bottom cost (absolute minimum), probably opebo may give you the lowest achievable, however with heavy compromises in quality required then.
Actually there are no gaurantees that price correlates with 'quality'. Patience can yield quality just as well as throwing money around, and the careless monger can spend a great deal for quite poor quality.
As for the point in question - Brian is right that you should avoid Bangkok and stick to Pattaya. Not only is it cheaper but it is far more pleasant. In Pattaya a reasonable cost for a somewhat substandard guesthouse type room is 350-400 baht, while a quite nice room is 700-800.
I do not recommend long-time as the girls are tiresome after a couple of hours (who isn't, regardless of gender?). A short time will cost about 300-500 on the beach, with an extra 100-200 for short time room. I don't really recommend bringing girls back to one's own room. Short time on Soi Six will run about the same 700 baht, though sometimes one has to tip a bit for anal or bareback. For two per day figure 1,500 with odds and ends such as drinks. Food should be the cheapest - simply eat in small Thai restaurants, carefully avoiding any restaurants that contain farangs as they will be far worse than those patronized by locals, as well as much more likely to make you ill. Lastly, always rent a motorbike as there's nothing fun about trudging around.
Daily Budget:
Room - 700
Sex - 1,500
Food - 200
Bike - 100
Total - 2,500
So for 14 days, 35,000 baht. Add 1,000 on each end for transit, and just in case unexpecteds, and you get 37,000 baht. I think that is about 550 British pounds. So with your 800 baht budget you could drink a lot more, get a better bike, have more short times, or more threesomes.
Hi Guys,
Apologies, should have been more clearer. Will be staying in Bangkok for 6 nights and pattaya for 6 nights and then back to bkk for 1 night before flying home. Accomodation will be booked and paid for in advance so that will be coming out of my spending budget! will probably be looking to do one short time or massage parlour during the day and a long time in the evening as well as other touristy things and a bit of shopping. I also one try out 2 women long time once in bkk and once in pattaya. From your responses i guess £800 is not going to be enough. Any suggestions?? also i will be travelling in the last week of august and first week of september, whats the mongering scene like during august/september? is there still lots of women?
Retired Army
05-19-07, 23:17
Hi,
Is the action and pickings at Riva's still exciting as it was 2 years ago?
The action in Rivas's is second rate compared to Spaso's.
Hi Guys,
From your responses i guess £800 is not going to be enough. Any suggestions?? also i will be travelling in the last week of august and first week of september, whats the mongering scene like during august/september? is there still lots of women?
In my opinion, £1600 will be more than enough for one short time/massage during the day, a LT during the evening and plenty left over for food/travel/incidental expenses, everyday for your entire trip. This assumes your tastes do not require absolute DDG model quality girls every night and your regular drink doesn't include large quantities of Old #7 Black Label or Don Julio Tequila Anejo.
Expect the asking price for LT to range from £31 for moderately attractive to £62 for model quality. What you actually pay will depend on your chemistry and your negotiating skills.
There are always women around. I was in LoS around July/August last year and the hunting was quite good. There's less competition since it's not the "high season" yet. The following reports describe how I experienced things during my visit:
Part 1:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488232#post488232
Part 2:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488546#post488546
Part 3:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=490984#post490984
Part 3 Addendum:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491340#post491340
Part 4:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491363#post491363
Part 5:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=497928#post497928
Part 5 has a list of my suggestions based on my experience/tastes/interests.
To add to that, I would comment that sex two/three times a day for 12 days straight can be pretty strenuous unless you have the lebido of a teenager or use some sort of "recreational pharmaceutical". You will probably have a day or two in there that you just want to rest alone and "recharge".
Cheers,
Fox Two
Long Time Boy
05-20-07, 03:06
Orgy or Gangbang in BKK
Have been to BKK many times (see previous posts) and am coming again in June. Would like to participate in some orgy or gangbang action.
Does anyone know where this happens?
Does anyone want to set up a session/s?
PM me or answer in thread
Any other ideas for good times welcome.
LTB
Orgy or Gangbang in BKK
Have been to BKK many times (see previous posts) and am coming again in June. Would like to participate in some orgy or gangbang action.
Does anyone know where this happens?
Does anyone want to set up a session/s?
PM me or answer in thread
Any other ideas for good times welcome.
LTB
My friend and I brought two back and we did them in the same bed back at the Hotel because the Eden girls tend to be very cool with the whole process and we all enjoyed watching each other. These girls told us that the rooms at Eden were better w/mirrors, toys etc., but we had a great time. I say that you get two and do them on the Eden premisis that you will be happy chappy. One will "rim" you while the other polishes the knob and they boink like bunnies. These girls are the ultimate pros. If they seem aloof and uninterested at the bar when you are scoping out who you want, you will find they are very talented when in the room and much more enthusiastic than the brightest eyed bushy tailed one from the Nana lot!
M P Lurker
05-20-07, 05:15
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Rawhide. Soi Cowboy: Unashamedly my favourite haunt although I was disappointed to find that both the Nymphette and Minx from a previous report had gone and that, to some extent, the standard of girls had dropped a little. Having said that, there's still quite a number of cuties. Rawhide at least try to put on a good show, but I really had to draw the line at the dance number in see-thru plastic rubbish bags. No matter how you try and say it, a plastic rubbish bag isn't sexy. Even after 10 beers. All that said, I hooked onto a tall and lithe cutie (Pim) and took her home a couple of times. 600 BF and 2500 LT. I won't pretend that there was anything special in bed. Lovely body, very small breasts (which I like) and a deliciously tight pussy. Great starfish. Still, she was great company. Affectionate, undemanding, GFE. Knew no English and would just twitter away in Thai like a cat mewing. To this day I have no idea what she was talking about!
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"Great starfish" means what? I thought "starfish" referred to nearly comatose girls during fucking.
NicFrenchy
05-20-07, 05:41
My pleasure. By the way, I have read yesterday on another forum that Rainbow 4 in Nana (the bar where I had that strange experience) was supposed to be shut down by police on May 15th. Is anybody able to confirm that?Nah. I also go to that Forum (same name). This is pure Bullshit.
Maybe they had a Police Visit and the Police Threatened to close them down if they do not pay a Very large Fine.
If you were the RB4 owner, what would you do? Well, he will most likely pay the Fine because Closing RB4 for 60 days would be a bigger loss for him (in both terms of Money and Image)
;)
Do Not Rent a Motor Bike.
Use Baht Busses and you stay out of Hospital!
"Great starfish" means what? I thought "starfish" referred to nearly comatose girls during fucking.Exactly. Couldn't fault her on her delivery.
ThaiLearner
05-20-07, 13:10
Hi,
Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?
Thanks
I think so but don't change any money in England change it when you get to Thailand even the airport in Bangkok offers a good rate better than England
Retired Army
05-20-07, 18:52
Do Not Rent a Motor Bike.
Use Baht Busses and you stay out of Hospital!
na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.
Member #4147
05-21-07, 00:29
We've been going non stop for the most part had some reasonable success at BG, Aviva MP, & NEP in that order. Prices seem to be up whereas quality & quantity seem to be down, or maybe I' gotten jaded or have been very lucky on previoous visits. Rainbow has some nice looking action but at 2k st, 4k lt makes for a pricey shot which we haven't taken yet. Midday BG visit had limited appealing choices imho, 1500st. The few NEP gals we talked w/were 1500st & not many great lookers, hope Sunday may have been an off day @NEP & BG. Still would like to peruse Cowboy so if anyone has suggestions on that front we could skytrain over for an evening rendezvous. Also if anyone thinks the hostess bars are happening for farang that might be interesting. A semi early 8ish NEP session prior to Cowboy could also be fun. May try an afternoon MP vistit at Thonglor or Angel over by emporium.
Unknown9398
05-21-07, 01:40
This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.
Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.
I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.
Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.
P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).I'm glad to hear that some of you had good experiences with her. She certainly is a beautiful girl. I tried to make her as comfortable as possible, but she did seem a bit shy towards me, so maybe maybe I barfined her on an off night.
na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.What is the wrong side of the road? If you don't drive on the right side it could also be the left side, couldn't it? And yes, in Thailand they mostly speak the wrong language ???
"wrong" side is "left" for those of us accustomed to driving on the RIGHT. (Besides, it's a "play on words")
I wish the whole world would agree to drive on ONE SIDE (just pick one - whichewver doesn't MATTER)
Languages are another matter - there is no "wrong" language, it just isn't YOUR NATIVE SPEAKER LANGUAGE. Learn more - it's worth it in the end - I can do 4 "well" and 3 more "not so well". While one is at it, a bit of cultural understanding also helps tremendously
ATMs are the only way to go for BAHT - the "foreign" exchanges outside Thailand are RIP OFFS and charge about 10% MINIMUM. IF oyu MUST carry CASH, exchange it HERE (I'm in Thailand now for another week)
Long Time Boy
05-21-07, 05:30
My friend and I brought two back and we did them in the same bed back at the Hotel because the Eden girls tend to be very cool with the whole process and we all enjoyed watching each other. These girls told us that the rooms at Eden were better w/mirrors, toys etc., but we had a great time. I say that you get two and do them on the Eden premisis that you will be happy chappy. One will "rim" you while the other polishes the knob and they boink like bunnies. These girls are the ultimate pros. If they seem aloof and uninterested at the bar when you are scoping out who you want, you will find they are very talented when in the room and much more enthusiastic than the brightest eyed bushy tailed one from the Nana lot!
Thanks for the tip. I have been to Eden many times and look forward to another trip down happiness lane. But I'd like to try something different. 3 or 4 guys and 6 or 8 women or perhaps just one or two women and multiple guys.
Anyone have any ideas?
LTB
SidTheSexist
05-21-07, 06:15
na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.Without getting into this petty debate, it would have been worth noting that the original post which led to this discussion, was requesting information about how far 800 British pounds would go. Therefore, in this case, he should have far less problems than those of you who dont know what a roundabout is!! :D
Sid
I was just in Bangkok for a few days and met up with a girl I email now and again at Angel Disco. She wanted to go with me for the evening and she's a hot freelancer so who am I to say no. We got back to the room and after a little while the clothes start coming off. She tells me she thinks I am a good man and wants to have a luk klung. I think that's what she said. Anyway, she wants me to stay with her during my trip and she doesn't want me to wear a condom because she wants to get pregnant. Though she is pretty hot, I can't bring myself to screw a bargirl without a condom. She wasn't very happy and tried throughout the night and the next morning to climb back on. I had to get out of there the next day.
I was just in Bangkok for a few days and met up with a girl I email now and again at Angel Disco. She wanted to go with me for the evening and she's a hot freelancer so who am I to say no. We got back to the room and after a little while the clothes start coming off. She tells me she thinks I am a good man and wants to have a luk klung. I think that's what she said. Anyway, she wants me to stay with her during my trip and she doesn't want me to wear a condom because she wants to get pregnant. Though she is pretty hot, I can't bring myself to screw a bargirl without a condom. She wasn't very happy and tried throughout the night and the next morning to climb back on. I had to get out of there the next day.
I don't mean to sound obtuse, but what's your point? Is there an observation there or a question, or both?
Please enlighten me about what you think, otherwise just state that you fucked a nice girl.
Member #4147
05-22-07, 04:35
Energizer bunnies we 2. Much like day 1 but rather than hang at BG we took our TBFN after our morning ball & went to Gullivers for lunch & pool as I had heard good things. Food was good but for 4 wanting to shoot some pool together, not. If you're a good player you might like as winner stays loser pays a few cute girls but may not have served well as a pick up joint. After Gulliver's skytrain to MBK for bowling / getting drunker. Good fun, back to hotel, girls were amazingly comfortable getting naked together & even tho we have connecting rooms getting it on all in same was fun, friends room has 2 beds but what & where ever w/these 2. Didn't puh for an overnighter w/them as there are many gogos in the hood I wanted to expose my newbie friend to. So we closed down NEP, declined albiet reluctantly to barfine some delightful ladies. We mingled w/the masses as NEP flowed outbound then up & down lower suk for a smoothie &? Back to the Nana lot, my buddie was begining to fade & started talking stupid & claiming he'd go back alone, I wouldn't hear of it we saddled up & the then closed bar kitty corner nana enjoying our smoothies were approached by many scary but some decent girls. A super freak 26 yo, black father, wild hair tiny tight bod w/hard abs got my friends interest up I was convinced by 21 yo ms. Issaan 2529, that she was an adept smoker, & she was, & off we went. Friend & his TBFN are still sleeping, right thru be'fast. Today's objective is again to end up at Cowboy. Still trying to meet Belmont & exchange intel. Peace out.
Well Pete, I'm not trying to write the great American novel here so I pray that you forgive my wordiness. Perhaps someone out there is looking to impregnate a bargirl and if that were the case I might know just the one. Bringing two people together is a beautiful thing. You might say I'm providing a service here, Pete, with the brotherhood and happiness of all mankind in mind. Pm me Pete if you're interested.
Asian, I guess you didn't realize that this forum isn't actually a lot of people just talking, but we're all being directed on what and how to say it by PeteMCC. The plan is to eventually do it live on stage. So you have to try to understand, if Pete seems abrasive at times, its just because he cares so much that we do this right.
na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.
Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.
LittleBigMan
05-23-07, 09:44
Not having any real enforcement in Thailand for driving laws makes this situation even worse. Driving defensive doesn't exists in this country and from my personal experience I rather operate a motorbike than drive. I truely feel safer than driving. While driving it's the motorbikes that drive you crazy they come from all direction like the little flies that surround your face, enter your month when you speak, enter your nose and ear and surround your leg while you sit. It's the wild wild west! But do what I have learn and set your mind to forget the idiot that blast down the road! My saying is " that idiot that just blasted down the road will be dead either today or tomorrow.
LBM
Jungle Bluebird
05-23-07, 10:10
years back I did my thai driving license. 2 options applied. Pay THB 1,000 and pass or do the written and driving test and pass maybe.
I paid:-) and passed.
Not having any real enforcement in Thailand for driving laws makes this situation even worse. Driving defensive doesn't exists in this country and from my personal experience I rather operate a motorbike than drive. I truely feel safer than driving. While driving it's the motorbikes that drive you crazy they come from all direction like the little flies that surround your face, enter your month when you speak, enter your nose and ear and surround your leg while you sit. It's the wild wild west! But do what I have learn and set your mind to forget the idiot that blast down the road! My saying is " that idiot that just blasted down the road will be dead either today or tomorrow.
LBM
years back I did my thai driving license. 2 options applied. Pay THB 1,000 and pass or do the written and driving test and pass maybe. I paid:-) and passed.
How did this deal work? Were you told about the two options by the authority, or did you just figure it out yourself and offer the bribe? Is this kind of corruption that open and obvious in LOS? I'm shocked!! Shocked!! :)
Daddy
Jungle Bluebird
05-24-07, 03:47
Oh well. It just kind of happened. I saw the overfilled 'classroom' for the multiple choice exam, then witnessed the utter idiotic driving test (good chance to fail, when turning right on a motorcycle, stretch out right arm LOL). Prompted my secretary to ask for 'other' ways. And voila, all sorted within a few minutes.
JB
How did this deal work? Were you told about the two options by the authority, or did you just figure it out yourself and offer the bribe? Is this kind of corruption that open and obvious in LOS? I'm shocked!! Shocked!! :)
Daddy
Are there any go gos that are open during the day in BKK like in Pattaya? If so which ones and when do they open?
Goodfeller
05-24-07, 07:34
Back in Bangkok after 1 year. The new airport is a bit further and a bit more expensive to take a taxi to Sukhumvit soi 4. There's less taxi rip off artists but still there, otherwise very similair to the old airport style regarding customs and so forth.
My plane landed at 1 am, got to the hotel at 2am. Walked around a bit and my first impression was how quiet the street was. Certainly in comparison to my first trip here 6 years ago. I've been back since the earlier bar closing times but there were still crowds of people in the streets and drinks were still readily available. Even Angels disco was closed by 2am which was a bit surprising. The Nana bar inside the hotel was still serving under the table, low key, and the football (soccer) game was televised but not a big scene by any means. There was a descent amount of girls in the Nana parking lot but certainly less than I remember on previous visits. And although there was still a food court of sorts that still exists along Sukhumvit, it too seemed less crowded than previous years. None of this is a huge deal, just an adjustment but thought it was note worthy. I am curious though if there is a later scene still going on somewhere with good action. I know patpong is open later but I don't really care for that area.
The tuk tuk drivers tried to sell me on a bar open all night, I made that mistake my first time. I was taken to a bar that was attempting to look closed, somewhat an underground scene and had some girls in a fishbowl type set up. Everything was fine until I got my bill. Usual story, padded bill, the tuk tuk driver drank on my tab and the drinks were overly expensive on the ridiculous side. This bar was off the beaten track and when I argued the bill, let's just say the mood got a bit uncomfortable and I realized I should just pay and get out with a lesson learned. Don't trust tuk tuk drivers and stick to better known bars where the doors don't lock behind you.
This is just the beginning of my trip and without a doubt will only improve, I just hope that things don't continue to tighten up in the LOS.
Vinny_Viagra
05-25-07, 15:06
Having lived in Thailand for a number of year many years ago I recall during the rainy season in September and October the streets flooded everywhere. Can someone report on the situation currently? Is the flooding under control these days in the October time frame? My tour is scheduled to arrive Oct 3rd so I am a bit concerned.
v
It's not so bad Vinny. I have exprience with BKK and Hua Hin the last 6-8 years. I don't se it as a daily problem.
But anyway, 60 mio. live with it and they still smile. So I think you have a fair chance to survive.
Retired Army
05-26-07, 08:15
Having lived in Thailand for a number of year many years ago I recall during the rainy season in September and October the streets flooded everywhere. Can someone report on the situation currently? Is the flooding under control these days in the October time frame? My tour is scheduled to arrive Oct 3rd so I am a bit concerned.
v
BKK flooding gets worse every year as more and more klongs get filled in for high rise buildings. Klongs were narture's way of diverting water to the Gulf of Thailand. Now that they no longer exist water seeks the lowest level which is the street. Not to mention that Bangkok is slowly sinking and the oceans are rising.
If you ever wonder why the MRT entrances are so high it's because they are built one meter higher than the highest recorded flood level. But, the good thing about BKK is the floods are short lived.
Retired Army
05-26-07, 08:18
The tuk tuk drivers tried to sell me on a bar open all night, I made that mistake my first time. I was taken to a bar that was attempting to look closed,... Usual story, padded bill, the tuk tuk driver drank on my tab and the drinks were overly expensive on the ridiculous side....
... Don't trust tuk tuk drivers and stick to better known bars where the doors don't lock behind you.
Like, Duh!
Retired Army
05-26-07, 08:27
This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.
Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.
The point is: you can't be stupid and drive in Thailand. This means Driving while under the influence, while getting a blow job, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a motorbike in Thailand. I found it the best way to get around Bangkok when the traffic was stand still. I had one for years and went all over the city. Sure it was a Honda Wave with a basket and step through frame in case I wanted to wear a skirt. But what the hell! Fifty Baht worth of gas a week and I could go almost anywhere I wanted, when I wanted. You just have to watch out for all the crazies and expect them to do the unexpected.
As for driver's licenses. is there still the requirement that you have to have a residence visa to obtain one? When I got mine I hired some guy to get my license for me, register my bike and do all the other stuff. Cost 800 THB if I remember correctly. This was about five years ago and a lot of brain cells have died since then.
This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.
Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.
T8,
it probably depends on where you got your driving experience and which countries you have been before.
From an Indian traffic base, Thai traffic is just as relaxing as US traffic is for a south Italian. You should be aware that high concentration is required to manage the traffic, respectively the unexpected. Never with Alc is my rule. Also better dont have discussions etc. I prefer the Taxi then. I am living in Seoul and I would rate Seoul traffic similar to Thai, but 'better' then India.
Usually you would adopt pretty quick to the local rules, as you would not gain any ground, respectively blocking the traffic and be in even higher risk if you wouldn't act more 'selfish'.
Simple rule to adopt: Be selfish and (more (!) or less) forget the rear mirror. Any view to the rear mirror and you loose track on whatching out what unexpected happens in front of you.
The most difficult is to re-adopt when coming back home.
Heard Teheran could have the worst traffic, but coldn't check myself yet.
I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage.
regards
Brain666
Got back to Bangkok after 3 months and though many things were planned to a meticulous detail, things changed as opportunities presented itself. I am into my 6th day and three more to go.
Because of this website I am having a whale of a time. I staying at the Majestic Suites and enjoying their great "girl-friendly" service. As they say in business it is. "location and location, stupid" it is the ideal affordable plae around. The gym pass to Majestic Grande is just perfect.
What a difference from the good old US back home. The cost is very affordable and service great (if you are lucky).
I am a "music" loving guy. That includes live as well as recorded 70-80 era disco type music. Have taken in and have enjoyed many things that I cherish, all within a short spell. Examples are: Angel Disco in Nana Hotel; Radio City in Pat Pong; 7-day (? ) bar along Sukumvit, Soi 7; Saxophone Pub at Victory Monument; visit to China Town; Night Bazaar) Soince I have seen other gems such as, Wat Po; the Grand Palace; Jim Thompson’s House; Suan Pakaard Palace etc. I was not keen in seeing places this time.
The Saxophone Pub is at 3/8 Victory Monu, ent and it is just next to Victory Monument BTS Station. It is open from 9:30 till late.
Went in search of Brown Sugar (Jazz club), but was that impressed.
Other activities such MP, take outs ST and LT etc. Are continuing.
One incident stands out. A girl I met in Nana was coughing and was on some cough medication. On top of that, she also took in a few drinks at Angel Disco. Then all hell broke loose. She became disoriented and thanks to many people on that day it was smoothly handled. First of all, I had help from my buddy, who was also there. Then my girl also had a friend and we all shared a table. So, we were able to physically escort the disoriented girl to the my hotel and then to a taxi. Very next day she was just fine was sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Has anybody have this type of experience? Any way, this situation was again handled beautifully by Majestic staff.
Believe it or not, I also met Gitto at Angel Studio and said Hi.
I am going to be staying at MS till Tuesday, any fellow mongers look for me. It is easy to spot me. I am the "Indian looking guy".
Cheers and good hunting.
Sidney
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Al Cualquiera
05-26-07, 19:02
"I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage."
I think you are right. I couldn't manage if I tried.
I am not even gonna try to drive in BKK.
With taxis and skytrain I can get around ok.
I don't have the experience to drive in BKK traffic, don't mind admitting it.
For Long Time visits will the TG be willing to stay up all night & fool around? Or want to sleep after a few hours? Will she leave at any time if i ask her? Could it be a problem for her to transport to her residence at any hour of the night?
For Long Time visits with a TG, if i am expecting her to stay and make me happy for 12 hours and she leaves after 6 hours is it going to be a problem if i pay her half {50%} of what I would have for the 12 hours?
"I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage."
I think you are right. I couldn't manage if I tried.
I am not even gonna try to drive in BKK.
With taxis and skytrain I can get around ok.
I don't have the experience to drive in BKK traffic, don't mind admitting it.I'm just thankful that so many Thai taxi drivers are ready and willing to drive me around in Bangkok, so I don't have to. Farang drivers, remember that the Thai cops are definitely not your friends. Try not to get involved in an accident or traffic stop, as you will suffer for it. IMHO, driving in Thailand is inviting unnecessary trouble, and possibly disaster. That said, one of my longtime farang friends drives his moto in Bangkok every day. No wonder he arrives in an awful mood, cursing at the idiotic drivers he must deal with constantly. Rather him than me. Thank god for skytrain and subway.
AsiaTraveler2
05-27-07, 20:02
Anyone familiar with Bangkok Gold Escorts? I have only used an escort service once in BKK, when I arrived at 2:30am in the morning and was too tired to hunt at that time. I came across their website and I must say, some of the girls look very tempting. Pricey, though, at 6,000 baht for a 2 hour session.
This could be a scam, or the photo's so touched up, that when the girls arrive they may look no better than a soapie or go-go girl. I thought I would ask anyway. Always on the prowl for something new.
http://www.bangkokgoldescorts.com/gallery.html
Rodmanj had a review a few months ago, and seems he had a great time, but the review also seems to indicate that the photos are not real. I know there's an escorts thread, but it get's so little activity. Generally, if the pictures are too good to be true or too professionally done, it's a fake. It never hurts to ask, though. LOL!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=564639&postcount=70
AT2
I got my ding dong rung at Pat Pong the other day. It cost me 1000 Baht for a half hour in her room. I got an around-the-world, some deep prostate massage, and a "hello joe" like i haven't had since the 70s. All in all it was worth it,from a sweet girl.
I do not recommend long-time as the girls are tiresome after a couple of hours (who isn't, regardless of gender?)...I don't really recommend bringing girls back to one's own room.By "tiresome after a couple of hours" are you saying they get bitchy? If so then I may not know when they get like that since their talk would be all Greek to me; I do not know one word of Thai & don't plan on learning any. BTW I see the language barrier as one of the big benefits of coming to LOS, since for me it is often tiresome and or a distraction to have to listen to a lady talk during a sex-date. As it has been said, God gave men two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time, so please don't try to engage my brain in the middle of a BJ, HJ, or vaginal intercourse. This will cause me to lose erection, & consequently pleasure, & then I will get bitchy.
But getting back to the subject of her bitchiness, from what I have read Thai girls do not have a reputation for having a bad attitude, but compared to the West rather a willingness to please. Bitchiness would not enhance their chances of repeat business with me, let alone special treatment such as being contracted for the week or month, or becoming like an offshore GF whenever I visit LOS. In fact if a girl agreed to show me a good time for a Long Time {LT}, then broke that contact by being bitchy or unwilling to do what we had agreed to beforehand, then I would feel free to dismiss her with a prorated payment.
In Canada I have a gorgeous lady who will lick my balls non stop for 3 hours {$80/hr CDN} & I would hope for similar treatment and more from an Asian LT lady, as I have read that in LOS one can have a lady LT for 12 hours for $50 CDN. If that is the case, then I would divide the 12 hrs between cuddling, massage, DK, BLS, HJs, BJs & FS, depending on my mood & how energenetic I am. For an example, 4 hours cuddling &/or massage, 1 hour DK, 2 hours HJ, 2 hours BLS, 1 hours BJ, 1 hours FS, and an hour break to snack & shower, etc. Is this possible in LOS or should I be looking elsewhere in Asia, or just save the airfare/hotel costs & stay home? If Thailand is worth it I would visit regularly and may even retire there.
P.S. Why not bring the girls "to one's own room"? I would have thought that a no brainer to a bargain hunter such as yourself.
ArchieLeach
05-28-07, 02:40
AT2
OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.
Ok, now that that's out of the way.......I thought I'd go ahead and do it before someone else did. Now we can actually get to discussing your question.
No, I have never used an escort in BKK, and I have always assumed they're scams. But your question got me thinking.
I'm trying to think about the business model for a service like that in a market like BKK. The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market. There's no real repeat visiting business because anyone doing that much purchasing is going to become a better consumer and not use you. There's no real indigenous market because the action is so available and open that your service isn't required.
So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money. Which is what we've all assumed (and heard anecdotally). So that leads us back to where we started.
But then I wondered if there's a market out there that we're not considering, and that we don't see openly; is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably? There are a lot of affluent businessmen who travel to BKK and who would be interested in tasting the local delicacies, but aren't regular consumers (mongers). That market would be demanding, and you wouldn't be ripping them off. They'd be good customers. The issue is whether there's enough of them out there to sustain a legitimate provider. Whether there's someone serving them.
And how to differentiate this provider from the rip off escort companies.
There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana. I'm getting a kick out of just thinking about some of the guys I know trying to go to Nana and pick up a bargirl (you talk about a fish out of water). LOL
I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.
Let us know what you eventually find AT2.
Jungle Bluebird
05-28-07, 03:20
Archie
Your assumption that there is no need for escort services somewhat tends to indicate that you never actually been on a business trip.
The last thing you want to do after a day of meetings and stress is to go to NEP etc. What you want is to have a good bath, having your dick sucked and sleep. You also want no girl bugging you for an all nighter.
2 hours, with girls from a set menu hits the spot. For that, well you simply have pay a little more.
JB
AT2
OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.
Ok, now that that's out of the way.......I thought I'd go ahead and do it before someone else did. Now we can actually get to discussing your question.
No, I have never used an escort in BKK, and I have always assumed they're scams. But your question got me thinking.
I'm trying to think about the business model for a service like that in a market like BKK. The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market. There's no real repeat visiting business because anyone doing that much purchasing is going to become a better consumer and not use you. There's no real indigenous market because the action is so available and open that your service isn't required.
So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money. Which is what we've all assumed (and heard anecdotally). So that leads us back to where we started.
But then I wondered if there's a market out there that we're not considering, and that we don't see openly; is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably? There are a lot of affluent businessmen who travel to BKK and who would be interested in tasting the local delicacies, but aren't regular consumers (mongers). That market would be demanding, and you wouldn't be ripping them off. They'd be good customers. The issue is whether there's enough of them out there to sustain a legitimate provider. Whether there's someone serving them.
And how to differentiate this provider from the rip off escort companies.
There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana. I'm getting a kick out of just thinking about some of the guys I know trying to go to Nana and pick up a bargirl (you talk about a fish out of water). LOL
I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.
Let us know what you eventually find AT2.
So when you do business you buy products unseen?
AsiaTraveler2
05-28-07, 04:17
AT2
OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.
1) The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market.
2) So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money.
3) Is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably?
4) I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.
Let us know what you eventually find AT2.
Archie,
Looking for escorts, while ridiculous on the surface, is not actually as ridiculous as it seems. There are several reasons why. Many of which you brought up. Which is why it is always wrong to assume. Like the old saying, assuming makes an ass out of you and me. By the way, have a great trip to Tokyo. It's a tough nut to crack, but so much fun!
My responses to your points, which address why Escort services are still out there in BKK. As I mentioned .. I used an agency just once when I arrived at a very late hour due to a flight delay and was dead tired. Of course, I could not pass on getting laid in BKK on my first night, so I made the phone call and showered/ate before the escort arrived. I had a nice experience with a college student (Or so she says).
In terms of what the makes up the Escort agency market, I don't think it's entirely newbies. Yes, there are those newbies that are afraid to venture out, but I don't believe they are the Escort Agencies core business. I stumbled upon the website and it got me thinking of high end agencies. I think the website I mentioned is more bait and switch, but I am hopeful for a high end option. I know I will be visiting the Pent Executive Club again and also pay some visits to the high end night clubs for some FL action.
Anyway, my comments ...
Point one .. Conventional wisdom says. The last time I checked, the world is full of average Joe's. The reason .. they play it safe and stick to conventional wisdom. The internet, 24 hour news and sports channels, flying to the moon, jets, etc. are all based on defying conventional wisdom.
Point two .. Scammers. Yes, there are scammers out there, but they exist everywhere. That's why we do our homework.
Point three .. Is there a market for high end girls? Absolutely. I rarely ever make my choices in BKK based on price. Sometimes I like good value and other times I don't mind breaking the bank on quality. There are many others like that. Paying $250 to $1,000 is routine in Japan. I don't think they break a sweat spending 6,000 baht. There's an escort service in Montreal that specializes in model quality escorts at $500-$600 for a 2 hour session. I'm sure there are many high end clubs in BKK, that most are not aware of, which exist solely to cater to high rollers.
Point four .. Agreed. I'm more than willing to pay for quality, if the girl is a true stunner with a great skill set.
There are many individuals who also cannot afford or would be uncomfortable visiting the many open play ground areas like Nana Plaza. Some live and work in BKK and only visit Soapies or hire escorts. Some are on business trips and lack the time, energy, or must keep a low profile. Others are with significant others and get a separate room and hire an escort.
There are many reasons, and that's why they exist. I'm just asking about one specific Agency, since there are two girls pictured, and would pay 6,000 baht if the pics are accurate.
AT2
No disrespect but I find your arguments very poor.
First of all, conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies. That is the norm throughout the world in almost every city outside Asia.
Also, there is no evidence that an escort agency provides a better quality girl. In fact, my empirical evidence (this comes from married friends of mine who use those services for fear of being caught) is that they are usually of poorer quality.
AsiaTraveler2
05-28-07, 04:55
No disrespect but I find your arguments very poor.
First of all, conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies. That is the norm throughout the world in almost every city outside Asia.
Also, there is no evidence that an escort agency provides a better quality girl. In fact, my empirical evidence (this comes from married friends of mine who use those services for fear of being caught) is that they are usually of poorer quality.
HK Dog,
I agree to disagree. Conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies in SOME parts of the world, but not in BKK and as you mentioned in the rest of Asia. Going to Nana Plaza, Patpong, Soi Cowboy and the large Soapies is conventional wisdom in BKK. Going to AMP's (Asian Massage Parlors) is conventional wisdom in Hawaii. Escorts are not conventional wisdom in South America or Germany. The list can go on and on.
My point is that conventional wisdom is not always necessarily right and there are times when you need to go past conventional wisdom for truely great experiences. Why limit yourself to conventional wisdom?
I don't disagree that most escort agencies are of average to poor quality. You can see that by their websites. That does not mean that one does not exist that may be of very high quality. If a high end agency does not exist in BKK, fine. However, if you don't ask, you don't find out. When you stop looking, you stop discovering.
Your friends are one example of some that may need to use escorts. Need is one major reason. A high end agency may or may not exist. I'm not promoting escort agencies as a must do or even promoting them as an option. I'm just asking about that one agency that I came across. Please do not misinterpret my response to Archie. My point there, was just to point out that conventional wisdom is NOT the "be all end all" of thinking. It is the safe route, the percentage route, but it leaves you missing all too many fantastic experiences.
I think Archie would agree, since his post showed that he too, thought about at least some of the possibilities. I don't care if empirical evidence shows that generally most escort agencies have poor quality girls. All I care about, is if there is ONE agency that provides high end model type girls, beyond what you would normally see in a Soapie and Go-Go venue. And yes, I know the soapies have "model" quality girls. Some are, but most are not any more exceptional than their counterparts in the fishbowls.
AT2
I am still trying to understand your 'conventional wisdom' argument. If you have no extenuating circumstance (such as being married or time for exploring limited) I just don't buy into trying something since its against conventional wisdom.
Conventional wisdom exists because thousands have tried it and declared it to be the superior product.
I'd rather go with empirical evidence than bucking conventional wisdom.
AsiaTraveler2
05-28-07, 05:48
I'd rather go with empirical evidence than bucking conventional wisdom.
I understand. Most people do, since it's the safe thing to do. I just asked a simple question. Is Bangkok Gold escorts any good or are they bait and switch. I did not ask how escort services are in general. I already know that. Look, I'm not asking you to change your thinking. It works for you and my way works for me.
Archie brought up conventional wisdom. While I agree it's the safe route to take, there is a lot of empirical evidence to point out the limits of conventional wisdom. That plane that took you to BKK is the best empirical evidence you need, to prove that conventional wisdom has it's limits. Conventional wisdom said that man was not meant to fly.
Let's just say, I prefer to fly! Think of the possibilities! The great irony of this discussion is that BKK is all about fantasy and the possibilities. What's so wrong about getting a hot model level girl delivered to your door if that option is out there? Again, I'm just asking.
Not looking for generalizations. Just looking for someone who has actually used this agency. If no one answers, I may just try them anyway.
AT2
But common sense should be used. If you are looking for supermodel/actress etc, you will never find it in a standard escort service.
Of course you can probably get Miss Thailand for a price (and I am sure many have).
I agree that would be a useful connection but at that level it is done by private pimps to selective clients. Not some bozo getting off the plane and opening up the phone book.
Retired Army
05-28-07, 07:04
For Long Time visits will the TG be willing to stay up all night & fool around? Or want to sleep after a few hours? Will she leave at any time if i ask her? Could it be a problem for her to transport to her residence at any hour of the night?
For Long Time visits with a TG, if i am expecting her to stay and make me happy for 12 hours and she leaves after 6 hours is it going to be a problem if i pay her half {50%} of what I would have for the 12 hours?
Long time usually means you pick her up in a bar, take her back to your place for the night. She is expected to give you two goes. One as a sleeping aid and the other as a wake up call. Most guys just opt for a blow job in the morning, but it's up to you.
She will leave any time you decide, you are the employeer. As for six hours vs. 12. If her short time rate is 1,000 and her long time rate is 1,500 then give her 1,000, not 750.
Retired Army
05-28-07, 07:07
Please see my post in the Bangkok Escort Agencies Thread.
AsiaTraveler2
05-28-07, 07:24
But common sense should be used. If you are looking for supermodel/actress etc, you will never find it in a standard escort service.
Of course you can probably get Miss Thailand for a price (and I am sure many have).
I agree that would be a useful connection but at that level it is done by private pimps to selective clients. Not some bozo getting off the plane and opening up the phone book.
HK Dog,
Are you from HK or China? This may be just a cultural/language thing, but you are taking everything that I said way too literally. By model level, I did not mean Miss Thailand and I certainly don't expect Tuk Janjira or Amey Chotirot showing at my door. LOL! The Soapies use the sideline model or "model" designation, since some of the supposedly pose for men's magazines like the Thai Penthouse magazine.
Chill and have some fun. Don't over analyze everything and don't worry too much about it! What's the worst that could happen with an escort. Over pay by $90 US? Have an average fuck? There are worst things that can happen and I'm sure I will survive. LOL! I have never ruled things out based solely on conventional wisdom, since things change or there are always exceptions to the rule.
Besides, this post should have stayed in the Escort thread. I am sooooo regretting posting in this thread. A simple question got soooo screwed up.
Peace!
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
05-28-07, 07:35
Please see my post in the Bangkok Escort Agencies Thread.
RA,
Saw it and your prior posts in the Escort thread. Very informative and I know a Thai national that is in the same situation as you are.
To everyone else,
We don't need to be debating the philosphy on this topic. I used an escort service once in my 15 years going to BKK. I saw a specific site that intrigued me, because of two specific girls that I would have some interest seeing based on the photos. I realize the photo's are probably fake, but it never hurts to ask! Oooops! Maybe it does, when others decide to read more into the question than was intended.
If any of you have actually used Bangkok Gold, PM me or post the answer in the escort thread. Very simple. I'm sorry for all the time and energy spent on this question.
Thanks!
AT2
Long time usually means you pick her up in a bar, take her back to your place for the night. She is expected to give you two goes. One as a sleeping aid and the other as a wake up call. Most guys just opt for a blow job in the morning, but it's up to you. How does this compare with Short Time {ST} or offer anything more than ST, other than a warm body might be beside you for the night, assuming it is not gone with your belongings/loot before you awake? I could "go" {cum/ejaculate} twice during a two hour ST session too.
Personally if I had a TG LT literally sleeping over then I would wish to take advantage of the opportunity by being awake the whole time to cuddle and caress her while she was sleeping. For me this is just as good as sex, if I am in the mood for it. Other times I am in the mood to get right to the hardcore stuff & bypass kissing, etc.
If it is up to me, as you say, each "go" will last 5 hours before I cum, if I do at all. The question is, are the TGs up to it? And, if any are, are they going to charge me triple?
I hope the TGs are not like the SWs in my city. They want to charge you for a service {HJ = $20, BJ = $40, FS = $60} and get you to cum in the first 5 minutes. Certainly that doesn't work for me since I want the session, and the pleasure, to last as long as possible. I do my best not to cum till I can't take it any longer. So I put it to my local SW ladies like this: I'll give you $10 for every ten minutes of actual service {so travelling/toileting/eating etc times are not on the clock} & an extra $20 bonus if you make it a whole hour. Of course in LOS I will need to get a much better rate than that, or it is not worth the extra costs {hotel/airfare, etc} & hassles in travelling that far. Is that possible, or should I stay home? Do you think offering them a weekly deal, payable daily, might get me a better deal? Maybe I will just have to come to LOS & check it out since I am in an unusual situation.
Anyone familiar with Bangkok Gold Escorts?
This could be a scam, or the photo's so touched up, that when the girls arrive they may look no better than a soapie or go-go girl. I thought I would ask anyway. Always on the prowl for something new.
http://www.bangkokgoldescorts.com/gallery.html
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AT2Most of the photos were shot in London England and appeared on escort sites in the UK. It's possible the same girls returned to BKK to carry on working - unlikely.
Member #4147
05-28-07, 14:48
Survived another week in BKK, 4th in 6 months. I need help broadening my horizons. It seems once I get to BKK, 24 hrs from home, I get my drink on, find a TGF & have been unsuccessful getting away from NEP. So my friend had the b'day week of his life. We Gogo'd every night, MP every day, all good for the most part. Now am considering the Cathay Pacific deal & wondering if it might be worth going to Phuket instead of BKK as I cannot get motivated to leave BKK once there. Is there a central location for gogo's, mp's, daytime pickup joints in Phuket maybe on par w/NEP. Just curious if others think I am shorting myself by limiting my activities so.
Yesterday we went to Hard Rock Cafe. It was quite disappointing.
We arrived around 10:30 pm, and ordered something to eat first. That was basically the highlight of the night, the food was quite ok (though I found my chicken too dry). Service was good, as usual in Hard Rock Cafe, I like this easy style of the waiters sitting even down at the table with you when taking the orders.
After finishing dinner we moved to the bar, listening to the band. Now, I would say that I am not really a fan of that band. The music selection was not bad, but - they could practice a bit more. The sound was somehow suspiciously unclear...
There were some girls. Yes. Nothing more to say. Years ago the selection was good there, but now ... no, if it is like this every night I would not recommend it as a pick up joint any more.
Giotto
I hate to contribute to cross-chat in a forum dedicated to reports, but I will clarify:
By "tiresome after a couple of hours" are you saying they get bitchy?
No, I assume most of them would not be 'bitchy'. I just find as soon as I have expended my load I have an urge to leave quickly. It is the period between sex acts that I think more fun alone than with a girl. I can remember however one much-missed 3-holer from the glory days of Pattaya Beach Road - maybe 4 years ago - who was so good I took her for two short times in one day occasionally.
In Canada I have a gorgeous lady who will lick my balls non stop for 3 hours {$80/hr CDN} & I would hope for similar treatment and more from an Asian LT lady, as I have read that in LOS one can have a lady LT for 12 hours for $50 CDN.
You are very fortunate! If you consider the cost of travel and time off work, no doubt some well-chosen girls in Canadia are cheaper and provide similar service to our Thai girls. I always found that mongering back in the US was actually cheaper when you took the overall expense into account. What you lose however is variety - there may be only half a dozen decent providers that even a determined monger can ferret out in a US city, while in Pattaya they are numerous even after the demise of the Beach Road.
P.S. Why not bring the girls "to one's own room"? I would have thought that a no brainer to a bargain hunter such as yourself.
I have only had trouble with three or four girls in all my years in Thailand, but it will happen, and even to the experienced. For this reason I desire 1) to always be able to jump up, pull on my shorts, and run, 2) that neither the she nor the hotel in which I do the deed know my real name, and 3) that she not know where I reside, for future reference.
ArchieLeach
05-29-07, 01:29
What a mess.
Bluebird,
I honestly think you misread my post.
You said:
There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana.
Yes, I know. That’s exactly what I said too.
I said there was a market, and for exactly the reason you stated. For some reason you believe I think there is NO reason. Perhaps you don’t differentiate between “conventional wisdom” and reality. I do. The whole point of mentioning conventional wisdom is to then refute it with a better argument, which I went on to do. Perhaps you didn’t read that far.
I haven’t been on a business trip? Uh, OK. I’ll let that pass. And assume you fell out of the wrong side of the hammock this morning. :)
AT2, (it’s all your fault) LOL!
Looking for escorts, while ridiculous on the surface, is not actually as ridiculous as it seems. There are several reasons why. Many of which you brought up. Which is why it is always wrong to assume. Like the old saying, assuming makes an ass out of you and me.
As I said to Bluebird, I wasn’t agreeing with conventional wisdom, I was using it as a starting point from which to digress. I went on to disagree with it, as you noted.
Please do not misinterpret my response to Archie. My point there, was just to point out that conventional wisdom is NOT the "be all end all" of thinking. It is the safe route, the percentage route, but it leaves you missing all too many fantastic experiences.
Exactly my point. I agree with everything else you said in both subsequent posts. That was the point I was making.
It’s the norm in many places to use Escorts, it’s not in BKK. The impression is that most Escort agencies in BKK are scams. That may be true, but there is a potential legitimate market for the services, which might be a leading indicator that one might exist. It’s just a matter of finding it, and differentiating it from the scams. But the customer potential is there. I’m one too.
I’ve made a living by knowing when to buck conventional wisdom and when to rely on an established track record.
Jungle Bluebird
05-29-07, 02:46
Archie, you are loosing the plot a little LOL. Never quoted below. Check again.
What a mess.
Bluebird,
I honestly think you misread my post.
You said: There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana.
Yes, I know. That’s exactly what I said too.
I said there was a market, and for exactly the reason you stated. For some reason you believe I think there is NO reason. Perhaps you don’t differentiate between “conventional wisdom” and reality. I do. The whole point of mentioning conventional wisdom is to then refute it with a better argument, which I went on to do. Perhaps you didn’t read that far.
I haven’t been on a business trip? Uh, OK. I’ll let that pass. And assume you fell out of the wrong side of the hammock this morning. :)
Jungle Bluebird
05-29-07, 02:54
Opebo
Agree with you 100%. I mean who wants an all nighter anyway. To sleep next to a person I just met, I think not. After sex it's truly time for the girl to go. After all, it was just sex I wanted.
I think someone in the Thailand thread quoted this before "you pay them to go, not to stay". I think this best describes it.
JB
I hate to contribute to cross-chat in a forum dedicated to reports, but I will clarify:
No, I assume most of them would not be 'bitchy'. I just find as soon as I have expended my load I have an urge to leave quickly. It is the period between sex acts that I think more fun alone than with a girl. I can remember however one much-missed 3-holer from the glory days of Pattaya Beach Road - maybe 4 years ago - who was so good I took her for two short times in one day occasionally.
HK Dog,
Are you from HK or China? This may be just a cultural/language thing, but you are taking everything that I said way too literally. By model level, I did not mean Miss Thailand and I certainly don't expect Tuk Janjira or Amey Chotirot showing at my door. LOL! The Soapies use the sideline model or "model" designation, since some of the supposedly pose for men's magazines like the Thai Penthouse magazine.
AT2
I am a westerner and it is not a cultural thing but common sense. There is a reason why 'classic' Escort agencies are not conventional wisdom. Conventional wisdom says there are no Ice Vendor's to the Eskimo's. Same logic.
Also you can get Thai Penthouse models to screw. I have. Unfortunately they are not going to be found in Escort agencies but private pimps. I cannot disclose the names to you unfortunately since it was done to me as a favor from someone.
Redfield10
05-29-07, 06:06
Opebo
Agree with you 100%. I mean who wants an all nighter anyway. To sleep next to a person I just met, I think not. After sex it's truly time for the girl to go. After all, it was just sex I wanted.
I think someone in the Thailand thread quoted this before "you pay them to go, not to stay". I think this best describes it.
JBActually, I think that was Martin Sheen's quote. ;)
ArchieLeach
05-29-07, 06:20
JB,
You're right. Too many posts and posters too keep up with. Got yours swapped in copy/paste with another.
Yours was:
Your assumption that there is no need for escort services somewhat tends to indicate that you never actually been on a business trip.
The last thing you want to do after a day of meetings and stress is to go to NEP etc. What you want is to have a good bath, having your dick sucked and sleep. You also want no girl bugging you for an all nighter.
2 hours, with girls from a set menu hits the spot. For that, well you simply have pay a little more.
I didn't assume there's no need for Escort Services. I use them.
And I went into detail about businessmen not wanting to go to NEP.
Actually, I think that was Martin Sheen's quote. ;)
It may very well be; however with Charlie's interest in poon, if it came from anyone in the Sheen family, my money would be on Charlie. ;)
(unless you are talking about a line in a movie.)
AsiaTraveler2
05-29-07, 08:44
I am a westerner and it is not a cultural thing but common sense. There is a reason why 'classic' Escort agencies are not conventional wisdom.
HK Dog,
That's fine. We just don't agree and that's ok. You spend your money your way and I will do the same. I'm sure we are both having fun in our own ways. I try to use common sense when it matters, and in this case it does not. The more options, the more fun!
The only rule I have in BKK is to play covered, and I always have a blast in Thailand.
Conventional wisdom says there are no Ice Vendor's to the Eskimo's. Same logic.
Some guy's believe all girls are the same .. and the Ice Cube logic would work for them, since an ice cube is an ice cube. I see each girl/woman as unique, and therefore if I see one that is not in the venue touted by conventional wisdom but she has something that appeals to me, I will go after her. Why not? Price becomes somewhat irrelevent.
Instead of the ice cube example, I look at them as distinct "one of kind" pieces of art or one of a kind cars. If you had two distinct "one of a kind" cars made especially for you, but you could only buy one, and you have enough money to buy either one. Would you take the car you want or choose soley on price? I would buy the one I want and that's just me.
There's no right or wrong answer here. It's a choice that's involved. You are the ice cube guy and I take the one of kind approach.
Peace,
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
05-29-07, 08:48
I’ve made a living by knowing when to buck conventional wisdom and when to rely on an established track record.
So have I, and we are on the same page. And yes, it's all MY FAULT! LOL! I will take full responsibility for this fiasco!
AT2
There's no right or wrong answer here. It's a choice that's involved. You are the ice cube guy and I take the one of kind approach.
Peace,
AT2
But you aren't really making much sense. It has nothing to do with the quality of the ice cube in my analogy. It is all to do with the massive abundance readily available.
I will however follow your logic on quality. If there was a superhot girl looking for money in Thailand, where would she most likely end up? In an Escort Agency or outside?
In most parts of the world , an Escort agency would be a better choice. In Thailand, like Ice to an Eskimo, the abundance overwhelms the odds.
Your method is basically rolling the die on a massive long shot on a game thats fixed. No chance of winning.
ThaiLearner
05-29-07, 10:04
Survived another week in BKK, 4th in 6 months. I need help broadening my horizons. It seems once I get to BKK, 24 hrs from home, I get my drink on, find a TGF & have been unsuccessful getting away from NEP. So my friend had the b'day week of his life. We Gogo'd every night, MP every day, all good for the most part. Now am considering the Cathay Pacific deal & wondering if it might be worth going to Phuket instead of BKK as I cannot get motivated to leave BKK once there. Is there a central location for gogo's, mp's, daytime pickup joints in Phuket maybe on par w/NEP. Just curious if others think I am shorting myself by limiting my activities so.
Phuket is very different to Bangkok you really need to stay in Patong. The main area is Bangala rd with the bars and a few gogo's, there is also Christins massage. The beach is very good there way better than Pattaya.
You could get a taxi from the airport to Pattaya it has plenty of bars and gogos from walking street right to North Pattaya then around soi 3 second road you have some soapies and on soi 6 you have the st places.
Jimmy Red Cab
05-29-07, 11:35
It’s the norm in many places to use Escorts, it’s not in BKK. The impression is that most Escort agencies in BKK are scams. That may be true, but there is a potential legitimate market for the services, which might be a leading indicator that one might exist. It’s just a matter of finding it, and differentiating it from the scams. But the customer potential is there. I’m one too.
While I agree that there are far too many other options than using an Escort Agency I would not say that most are scams, they are grossly overpriced and offer girls that could be found in venues such as CM2 but most will send you the girl that you have chosen ----or you simply send her away.
This service is ideal for a guy on business who does not have the time to scour the bar areas.
Hi all,
Can someone please explain to me why their are so many men out there willing to send money half way arcoss the world to a girl that is still getting fucked by a different man everyday. I know a girl in bkk that asks for 1500 ST and 3000 LT, and you either like it or lump it because she doesn't need the money.
If you not want to pay she don't care because their will always be another customer willing to part with the money for a chance to fuck her, tell her they love her and ask her to marry them. Then send her money thinking she actually likes them.
Then you end up with a girl form a different bar that doesn't want to leave the next day, because she is scared of taxi drivers or so she says. Maybe i am too lazy to take the time to find the right girl for the right price.
While I agree that there are far too many other options than using an Escort Agency I would not say that most are scams, they are grossly overpriced and offer girls that could be found in venues such as CM2 but most will send you the girl that you have chosen ----or you simply send her away.
This service is ideal for a guy on business who does not have the time to scour the bar areas.
There are smaller agencies that specializie in the high end business guy. These are guys who are often well known, very rich, and would never set foot in a go-go bar. And there are well educated, upscale Thai girls that want and need the money, but aren't going to freelance it even in a place like Spasso's or CM2.
I have posted about my experiences with such an agency and have gotten to know the woman who runs such a place. It is a niche and definitely not for everyone, but she provides a service for both the client and the girl. If you are used to paying European or American escort prices, agency prices in Bangkok are a bargain.
Just remember I am not talking about the agencies you find advertised on the web or in newspaper. These are small agencies that mostly do word of mouth business and it is mostly a repeat business. The girls know they are only going to see upscale business type guys.
Having said all of that though, anyone who can read this forum can avoid the expense and find suitable companionship in the multitude of ways talked about here. But there are those, and I was one in the beginning, that didn't know any better and agencies provided a valuable service. I met some really nice girls that way and it was really easy. That is what you pay for.
AsiaTraveler2
05-29-07, 17:47
But you aren't really making much sense. It has nothing to do with the quality of the ice cube in my analogy. It is all to do with the massive abundance readily available.
I will however follow your logic on quality. If there was a superhot girl looking for money in Thailand, where would she most likely end up? In an Escort Agency or outside?
In most parts of the world , an Escort agency would be a better choice. In Thailand, like Ice to an Eskimo, the abundance overwhelms the odds.
Your method is basically rolling the die on a massive long shot on a game thats fixed. No chance of winning.
HK Dog,
I tried it once and won. I'm 1 for 1. The reason you don't agree and feel that my way lacks common sense, is that you start your thinking using the wrong set of assumptions. You are looking at odds and value. All I care, is if I meet someone I find intriguing, and the venue and price to me generally does not matter. If tonight I see a girl at Nana who is interesting for 2,000 baht and a girl who is more interesting on an Escort website for 5,000 baht, I would choose the more interesting prospect. I understand and don't flame or question others, when they work within a budget. I understand. I also understand if they base their decisions on value. That's fine too. Just understand that it's not everyone's way, and it's not because they don't understand the odds or economics of the situation. It's just that to them, it may not matter. It's a vacation! This is not rocket science or some business decision. We are out to have a good time! Odds be damned! I would like to point out, that the odds are not astronomical. I saw two girls on a website that I would love to see. I asked about that one specific Agency. Is it legit. Please don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.
When you date woman, do you look at venue or do you look and see someone you would like to spend some time with and ask her out? Why did you ask her out? You saw something in her! Did you estimate the odds of her saying yes? Did you work out the cost of a date with her versus the cost with a date of your 2nd choice? I sure hope not! To me the venue does not matter .. Go-Go Bar, Soapie, Escort, who cares! I get the feeling it does matter for you! Which is my we are having this debate, which is getting very old by the way. The only reason I'm staying the course, is that I see so many members projecting their values, methods, budgets, etc. on to other members. Even flaming them on occassion. Not cool.
I may see a SPECIFIC girl at NEP, or at Soi Cowboy, or at CM2, or maybe if I happen to be browsing an escort agency website I may select her (If I know the photo is real). I do not use price or venue to decide which girl I select. I'm usually happy with my choices, because they are MY choices. There can be a dozen 7's in a room. They are not all the same. If I chose one of them, it would be for a specific reason .. a specific look or personality or just a certain something that attracts you to them.
I don't limit my choices based on preconceived notions. I just never saw any sense in that. Is an escort agency the percentage play? NO. Can it work? YES! I tried it once and had a great time! No regrets! As I said before, I'm not asking you to change your thinking. Just understand that everyone is unique and have their reasons why they do things their way. Most of the time, those reasons make sense to them and if you truely understand where they are coming from, you might understand and agree too. We don't all drive the same cars, eat the same food, live in the same cities, see the same movies. We all make choices based on the pleasure or satisfaction we expect from our choices.
I do need to make this point. In 15 years of going to BKK, I have only used an escort service ONCE! All I'm saying, is I am not ruling out that option. It's not my standard MO.
By the way, have you even used an escort service before?
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
05-30-07, 00:15
I generally spend my mornings and afternoons at a oil massage or soapie massage. If not, the Emporium or some other shopping center. Sometimes some of the pool bars, like Gullivers and the Hillary Bars on Soi 4. I have been to BKK enough, where I no longer want to see any of the tourist attractions.
Are there any new afternoon bars that have come up in the last 3-4 months that are worth checking out? I have never liked the Beer Garden, so I'm looking for other alternatives.
Thanks,
AT2
Avoid those scary mobs, and if a mustached maylay moolie Thai tries to chat you up, head the other way!! The cabbies could get methed up, drunk and want to open a can o' Kick ass on the horny farhang if stuff gets out of hand.
Remember that one angry Thai dude can kick your teeth out and a mob can turn you into a "farhang pinata" with literally no emergency services to take you to the Hospital. At least the Bumragrad is near Nana.
This has GOT TO make the Baht drop.
POLITICAL PARTY RULINGS
Bangkok on high alert for violence
13,000 soldiers, police to be deployed in areas considered to be flashpoints; Democrats, TRT deny mobilising supporters
BANGKOK: -- Security will be tightened in areas likely to be flashpoints for violence ahead of tomorrow's landmark rulings of the Constitution Tribunal on the electoral fraud cases against the country's two largest political parties.
A 13,000-strong combined force of police and soldiers will be deployed to maintain order and prevent violence, Council for National Security chairman General Sonthi Boonyaratglin said. He was speaking after a meeting of officials in preparation for judgement day.
There has been concern that supporters of the rival parties are likely to gather in great numbers in the capital and could cause trouble if they find the rulings disappointing.
From this afternoon, police will seal off the Constitution Tribunal building and search its compound to ensure no explosive devices have been planted, Police Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, said.
He said the police would also secure nearby bridges tomorrow, when the tribunal is scheduled to read its verdicts on the separate cases against the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, as well as three smaller political parties.
Police will work with military officers and city officials to prevent any violent incidents, Police General Vichien Pojphosri, a senior police commander in charge of security, said.
Hundreds of police officers will be stationed at Sanam Luang and the Royal Plaza, where Thai Rak Thai supporters are expected to gather, and at the headquarters of both the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties.
Authorities have been on alert after receiving intelligence that party supporters from the provinces are travelling to the capital. However, the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties have dismissed reports that they are mobilising their supporters.
Thai Rak Thai's caretaker leader Chaturon Chaisang yesterday accused the junta of spreading rumours to paint a bad image of the "old power clique" of which the party was a part.
The use of a backup military force, comprising another 43 companies from Bangkok-based Army units, if needed, would be "decisive" and "lawful", Army commander General Sonthi said yesterday.
Sonthi said he gave direct orders during yesterday's meeting with unit commanders that all soldiers participating in all security operations "must be unarmed" and would not be positioned in areas involving direct confrontations with protesters.
The 13,000-strong force comprises soldiers from 29 companies, Bangkok-based policemen and municipal policemen. Its main duty is to guard against possible violent incidents between supporters of Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, or anti-junta activists and the soldiers themselves.
Police will concentrate their efforts on curbing anti-junta movements that could be supported by taxi motorcyclists and taxi drivers.
A police intelligence report warned that the groups, referred to as "mobs in red shirts", might operate across the capital to create disorder if the verdicts dissolve any of the parties, or both.
Bangkok police chief Pol Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee said all 88 police stations had been observing the group's ongoing movements and their expected activities in the next few days.
Checkpoints will be set up on major city streets to intercept their vehicles or make arrests in case the group members showed signs of disobedience.
Elephants will also be barred from entering Bangkok at this time.
A bomb threat was received on telephone at the Thai Rak Thai Party's former headquarters on New Phetchaburi Road yesterday morning.
The caller said explosives would be set off but did not specify at which TRT office the attack would take place.
The official who received the call at 10am then telephoned the party's new headquarters at Navasorn Building on Rama 3 Road. Security officials and two sniffer dogs were called in to search the building but found nothing suspicious.
Meanwhile, Chaturon has called a meeting of party members to ensure there are no disturbances tomorrow when the Constitution Tribunal rules on the party's possible dissolution.
Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.
The party plans to send a few members to hear the verdict but Chaturon has instructed all other party members and supporters not to go to the tribunal but to hear the verdict at the party's headquarters.
TRT has also asked the police to deploy 200 officers at its headquarters tomorrow to maintain security.
Areas where trouble could possibly erupt
- Sanam Luang: Tomorrow, when the Saturday People Against Dictatorship plans an anti-coup rally. Popular Jatukam Ramathep amulets will be given away to gatherers.
- The Royal Plaza: Thursday, when PTV plans a rally at a nearby location.
- Headquarters of the two main parties involved: the Democrats, off Rama VI Road, and Thai Rak Thai at the Navasorn Building on Rama III Road.
- Checkpoints will be set up at Pok Klao, Pin Klao and Krung Thon bridges and on all roads connecting to them. These bridges and certain sections of the roads will be closed if the protest becomes too large.
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Places to avoid
Areas with heavy police presence
- Within the Constitution Court compound on Chakra Phet Road, where only 500 people will be permitted inside.
- Around the compound, where 900 policemen and a back-up force comprising an unspecified number of soldiers and municipal police will be on duty. Only 3,000 supporters of both parties and onlookers will be allowed near the compound
Source: The Royal Thai Police
BANGKOK: -- Foreigners in Bangkok were on Tuesday warned to exercise caution amid mounting security fears ahead of a landmark court decision over whether to dissolve Thailand's two largest political parties.
Australia, Canada, France and Japan all advised their citizens to show a high degree of personal security awareness as Wednesday's verdict could trigger violent demonstrations in the Thai capital.
"You should avoid demonstrations, political rallies and concentrations of military personnel," the Australian embassy in a statement.
The Japanese embassy called on its citizens to "stay away from expected political rallies" and "act very cautiously so as not to get involved in possible unrest and terror attacks."
Thailand is the fourth most popular foreign destination for Japanese tourists after the United States, China (including Hong Kong) and South Korea.
Some 900 police will be deployed on Bangkok's streets Tuesday evening, protecting the Constitutional Tribunal offices and setting up checkpoints to deter party supporters from travelling to the capital from the provinces.
Some 15,000 Thai troops were on alert Tuesday across the country to deter possible violence, officials said.
The Canadian embassy warned that planned protests might turn violent and urged its citizens to "maintain high level of personal security awareness" and avoid "unnecessary travel" in Bangkok.
The US embassy here has left its travel advice unchanged, urging tourists and expatriates to monitor events and avoid large public gatherings.
The British embassy's travel advice, which was updated on Wednesday last week, also urged its citizens to avoid demonstrations and large crowds.
On Wednesday, Thailand's Constitutional Tribunal must decide whether Thai Rak Thai, the party formed by ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and the Democrat Party are guilty of a slew of charges of electoral fraud related to annulled elections in April last year.
The tribunal has the power to dissolve the parties and ban their executives from politics for five years.
The potentially divisive ruling comes after more than a year of political upheaval culminating in the September 19 coup against Thaksin.
-- AFP 2007-05-29
CNS security plan can tackle 10,000
BANGKOK: -- The Council for National Security (CNS) yesterday unveiled a new security plan designed to control up to 10,000 protesters rallying against tomorrow's verdicts on the two electoral fraud cases against the Thai Rak Thai and Democrat parties.
"The plan, dubbed Pitak I, is aimed at pre-empting any protest-related violence," CNS spokesman Colonel Sansern Kaewkamnoed said.
The plan has already been activated and will remain in force until June 1 - or until all suspicious activities have ceased.
Soldiers from three branches of the armed forces and policemen will be mobilised to enforce crowd control measures, he said.
Under the plan, security authorities will strive to help people gain an understanding of the political situation, and monitor mass activities with the aim of discouraging the crowds from protesting against the verdicts. In the next step, authorities plan to set up road checks on all main roads linking Bangkok with the provinces in order to prevent villagers from descending on the capital.
Some 10,000 anti-riot forces have been on a high state of readiness within their barracks for immediate deployment should the situation arise.
If the crowds turn unruly, the CNS is fully prepared to declare a state of emergency before deploying anti-riot forces.
Sansern said the CNS would implement crowd control measures step by step ranging from a verbal warning to a crack down. Authorities will invoke harsh suppression as a last resort, he added.
He dismissed speculation that the CNS might mobilise its own crowds to counter the protests, saying authorities have no plans to incite people to clash with one another.
In today's Cabinet meeting, CNS chairman General Sonthi Boonyaratglin is expected to brief ministers on the security plan.
Sonthi plans to dispatch military officers to reason with villagers and disgruntled farmers ahead of tomorrow's verdicts. The dispatched officers will focus on the North and the Northeast.
He is expected to personally supervise the plan and monitor all mass activities.
First Army Region commander Lt-General Prayuth Chan-ocha, has alerted all security officials in the capital to brace for possible disturbances caused by motorcycle taxi drivers.
The CNS is anticipating a highly volatile public mood should the Thai Rak Thai receive an unfavourable verdict.
As a precaution, it is braced for every possible scenario if the crowds turn unruly even though it has no hard evidence to suspect any plans to incite violence.
"Among the staunch Thai Rak Thai supporters are some 80,000 taxi drivers and about 100,000 motorcycle taxi drivers, there is no way to predict their reaction to the outcome of the judicial review," the CNS spokesman said.
He said authorities must be prepared for unforeseen circumstances even though a mere 200 taxi drivers might join the protests.
Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?
Redfield10
05-30-07, 02:13
It may very well be; however with Charlie's interest in poon, if it came from anyone in the Sheen family, my money would be on Charlie. ;)
(unless you are talking about a line in a movie.)Yeah, I meant Charlie. No offense to Martin. I'm sure he's never seena hooker.
Dick1,
You could try Air Asia, they Bkk to KL and KL to DPS(Bali)
Or Try Tiger Airways.
HK Dog,
By the way, have you even used an escort service before?
AT2
Yes, in other parts of the world but would never dream of using one in BKK. I have married friends (who are seriously long cash and therefore cost no an issue) who are forced to use them. They see the girls I normally pick up in BKK and attest the quality from the Escort agencies are poor compared to my 'dates'.
Like I said before, but I would not call them Escort but really Pimp services, do exist in BKK for top quality. It is not going to be found by public knowledge such as the phone book.
ArchieLeach
05-30-07, 02:42
Keep your heads down.
Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?
Dick1, if you are in BKK, you might be able to find a R/T on TG for about 10,000 Baht, depending on the time of year. Check with a travel agent there. I doubt you will find this fare online. PM me for a good travel agent if you are not in town.
If you have time to burn, you can fly Air Asia BKK to KUL, then KUL to DPS. The problem is Air Asia doesn't provide straight through flights, so you have to clear customs in KUL, then check in again, and go through immigration again. I did it once, never again, but of course YMMV. Also beware of the taxes Air Asia charges, the price of the ticket might look great, until you add everything up.
Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?
Air France has one going to Denpasar that stops in Singapore on it's way from Paris. Shop the travel agencies in the Arab Section across from Nana.
Air France has one going to Denpasar that stops in Singapore on it's way from Paris. Shop the travel agencies in the Arab Section across from Nana.
Unless I am talking out of my ass, (and it has been known to happen) AF does NOT fly to DPS at all. Just checked their website, before making this sweeping comment, and there are no flights.
Of course, they might codeshare with someone, but they do not use their own metal to fly there. If it goes BKK SIN DPS, it is probably SQ or GA.
The gf finally left to go home. This left me with some time on my hands, as I had planned to make a side trip for four days.
On the last trip, I had met up with a girl called Sai from the Genesis bar, end of Soi 11. Very presentable. So I called to meet her for a coffee. But she would only meet me at the bar. So I went there reasonably early. We had a nice talk, but when I asked about long time, she would not stay later than 5 am as she has to look after her son. Also, I had thought of taking her with me on the side trip, but with her kid, not possible. So we agreed top part ways. A pity, I think she would have been a great gfe.
Next, met up with a lady friend, who introduced me to a regular, local woman, miss S, shy, very presentable, very little English. This presented me with a problem, as I reckoned that if I took her on, it would be the usual attachments etc. So we all agreed to go for dinner. Nice evening, then we all went home, very respectable, no further action that night.
Last backup was miss L who I had met at the Beer Garden on the last trip. I had called her a few times before coming, so she was expecting me. Texts back and forth, long drawn out process. I figured that she was working the bar looking for a better offer, with me as a backup. We finally agreed, and she came over. Good fun, dynamic and energetic, good body, great large B cup, in very good shape for one kid. And she loves to fuck, any way. So we romped a few times. She took off at 7 am to get to work in a clothing factory. She has an interesting technique of lying me on my back, standing over me, then squatting, but bending forward, so that her whole upper body is flat, horizontal, and a couple of inches above mine. Very nice to slip the sausage in and pound. Makes her come, very tight fit, great view. What a way to fuck. And she did it a few times. Loves me to lick her out till she comes again.
Texted her next evening. Same extended bargaining, so I walked over to the beer garden to find her. She was chatting up another guy, but not doing well. Told her I was there, and over she came. We went for something to eat as she was hungry, then back to the hotel for a repeat of the previous nights rompings. Very satisfying, good fun, a few laughs, expertly drained me of all remaining essential bodily fluids. Then off to work again at 7 am.
This is just such a fantastic place. The body becomes alive. All day with the prick at full or part erection, ready for action, as you walk round town, eat lunch, or travel in the train. Forget the bullshit and stress back home. As much sex as you want, how you want, when you want. The white male is not a second class citizen like at home. What a life.
Jimmy Red Cab
05-30-07, 11:16
Hi all,
Can someone please explain to me why their are so many men out there willing to send money half way arcoss the world to a girl that is still getting fucked by a different man everyday. I know a girl in bkk that asks for 1500 ST and 3000 LT, and you either like it or lump it because she doesn't need the money.
Those prices are not so outrageous, if she is pretty why should she get shagged by old men for a pittance. ?????????
Those prices are not so outrageous, if she is pretty why should she get shagged by old men for a pittance. ?????????
One would hope due to poverty. Remember, poverty is our friend, Jimmy.
I for one am pleased when pretty young girls must get shagged by old men for a pittance.
Jimmy Red Cab
05-31-07, 03:11
One would hope due to poverty. Remember, poverty is our friend, Jimmy.
I for one am pleased when pretty young girls must get shagged by old men for a pittance.
Not all Thai BG's are desperate, many earn more than a Doctor or Lawyer, good luck to them I say.
Eric Cartman
05-31-07, 04:47
3 days in BKK included 2 visits to the Eden Club
Eden Club is located right near Nana Skytrain, about midway down Soi 7/1 on the right side (look for the metal sign painted with the red devil, just as you walk past the Paulaner beer bar).
On Monday, hit the Eden Club at 1.15pm. Eden Club is arguably the most Terma-like place in BKK. When you walk into the bar, the girls line up – there are about 30 working. Ones to the left of the yellow line painted on the wall do anal, ones to the right don’t. You pick one girl, she takes a friend, and you go up to a nice terma-style room for some 2 v. 1 action. 3600 baht all-in, for 90 mins and guaranteed 2 pops. The girls are “kinky” by BKK standards – they use toys on each other and on you (if you like). They also seem to have genuinely good attitudes, and do "nice" things like wash you in the shower and towel you off. I had a great time. On my way out, the owner (the French guy) gave me a free water. Props to him, as I just dropped 3600 baht plus 200 each to tip the girls.
According to the owner, best time to come is either just after 1pm when they open (as there are a lot of girls) -- or between 7pm - 9pm when many customers are out to dinner, and there are more girls. They also do "take away" service after 10pm: 3000 baht buys you all night with one of the girls. That's a pretty good deal.
Tuesday - hit Eden Club again around 1.30pm. Another good 2 girl session, with one of the same girls from day before (“Waa”), who really knows her way around a strap-on. Hung out at the bar for about 15 minutes afterwards. The bar girl actually charged me for a bottle of water, as well as a glass of coca-cola. Which kind of pissed me off. Granted, they need to make $$, I understand that. But if you just spent 3600 baht there, and tipped the girls each 200-300 baht, it would be nice to at least not be charged 70 baht for the glass of coke they pour you from a 2 ltr. Bottle. *shrug*
Overall, a great place. Highly recommended. They actually have a spiral notbook at the bar where customers leave comments -- check it out, it's a fun read.
Cartman
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BKK (city, not the airport) - security
Grungthep had a noticeable police presence last week - inspections at the subway entrances (bags, backpacks, etc). More "roaming" gendarmarie evident as well. Paranoia? Probably not.
With the banning of the TRT party it might escalate into a "hotter" situation.
Extra information -
A possible solution to a notable rip-off - it's possible depending on time of day to get an "ordinary" BUS from the public bus centre to downtown for 35B or so (instead of the 400B taxi ride - they ALL cost 400B INBOUND right now) or the 150B express bus ride. Yes a bit more time but lot lower cost. If you are going to the Nana area, try #553 (might be 533 or 353 - I didn't write down the bus number) that goes to Victory Monument. Get off somewhere before the monument and take a cab the rest of the way for maybe 45B. (77B total I seem to remember) I'm not sure if the bus runs all night - it might and it sure beats waiting for the express bus that seems to never leave (last one at about 11pm or so). Going back out the meter cab fare was 170B from Asoke BTS station. I SWEAR BKK taxi drivers are masters of the art of rip-off though. No meter, no go! Seems also that even with an agreed negotiated fare, that amount seems to be "raised" when you get there (meter is ALWAYS cheaper) IF you are heading south (Trat, Chantaburi, in between) the busses leave Ekkamai until about midnite - but it would put you into Trat about 430AM after leaving midnite. No idea of how to ride the bus back out TO the airport though, except for the airport bus and i didn't figure out when it STARTS (so those of you with 6am departures, it might be "difficult" - just use a cab)
For those of you who get hungry at the airport before departure, go down to the first floor and then go in the direction of traffic to the food court. (literally the last door straight ahead before the wall on the south side of the terminal. pretty much right by the taxi stand but inside the terminal. Don't go outside - the door is inside. Prices are only a little higher than "street" prices in BKK - most dishes are in the 30 to 40B range - a few higher. (food service aimed at the locals - you need to like Thai food since NO western food is available) Buy "coupons" at the desk right inside the door. No baggage trolleys allowed inside, but individual bags are allowed. What you don't spend, you can get refunded on the way out (for those who remember the system at Royal Asia in Pattaya, it's similar but they don't use the cards - just coupons. 100B (about $3 US) will get you pretty much anything on their various menus. In the "normal" restaurants in the rest of the terminal, 100B won't buy much (besides, the food is "better" where the locals go, anyway)
Yes, I'm "frugal"
Can anyone tell me where I can buy generic Levitra (Vardenafil) in Bangkok, Pattaya, or Chiang Mai?
Wed May 24
The flight from Delhi landed at SVU at 5:10 in the morning. Walk to the Immigration was the usual mile walk. Exiting thru the immigration this Indian dude asks me where the luggage was. We were at Carousal 18. I said look up on the board and sure enough the sign says luggage is on no.8 all the way to the other end. (seems to me that Thai has a perverse pleasure to promote very cheap flights from India to BKK and then making you run around the whole airport).
Anyway I pointed out to him which signs to look at and where to go. He mentions that it is first time for him. First time in a plane, I thought. As we go past carousal 12, there are luggage on it and he stops to check for his luggage. No, I say to him #8 not #12. He starts following me and I ask, you have friends meeting you. No, he says, but how do you get to the Gurduwara (a Sikh temple)
As we walked thru the customs, he gets called out for inspection. I just kept going through. As I left him, I though. Man, this guy comes in for cheap stay, food and pussies. But he is going to get royally screwed by the ladies and the LBs. It;s going to be an expensive learning trip for him.
Yeah, I am a Bestard. No sympathy for the illiterate going on world travels.
More reports to follow.
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