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Sean_Double
06-01-07, 02:30
Anyone know where the Sea True Bar is? Sounds like a Bar/Restaurant with some eye candy. The Sea True seems to be a play on "See Through". Nothing on the thread search and not much or at least no address on the Google search.
AT2
Yo AT2,
Well, there's this from Google:
Zees Zone
Ramkhamhaeng Soi 89/2
Phone: (0) 86733 - 8273
Large popular local style pub/disco located where Dude/Sea True used to be in the Lamsari complex. Upmarket decor, mostly local and student crowd, mostly Thai/remix music. Does not get going till late.
This was from a gay listing. The pics don't look like ladyboys to me though. I've never heard of it.
Cheers,
Sean
Anyone know where the Sea True Bar is? Sounds like a Bar/Restaurant with some eye candy. The Sea True seems to be a play on "See Through". Nothing on the thread search and not much or at least no address on the Google search.
AT2
The left one is for sure a Ladyboy!
AsiaTraveler2
06-01-07, 07:31
Yo AT2,
Well, there's this from Google:
Zees Zone
Ramkhamhaeng Soi 89/2
Phone: (0) 86733 - 8273
Large popular local style pub/disco located where Dude/Sea True used to be in the Lamsari complex. Upmarket decor, mostly local and student crowd, mostly Thai/remix music. Does not get going till late.
This was from a gay listing. The pics don't look like ladyboys to me though. I've never heard of it.
Cheers,
Sean
Sean,
Yeah, I saw that on Google, but was not sure if that was it. The one on the left makes me think they could both be LB's. Probably best to move on and find another topic! LOL!
AT2
NicFrenchy
06-01-07, 10:18
started out soi 8: all the little massage shops were open, aviva was closed (can understand why, they aren't even busy on regular days) but pornvillai massage (across from aviva) was open.
walked a little farther to inspect the girlies at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900): closed. mmhhh no sucking tonight.
as i walked out soi 8, a tuktuk hustler asks "where you go? " "massage? " i chuckle and decide to stay with the man. i ask him "where? which massage? " he then asks me if i am on holiday or not? i tell him not and he says "you don't know this massage, very good ladies", i insist "where? " he tells me "only for thai people, only thai people go" i laugh and ask "if only thai people, why you take me? " he is a little speechless but recovers quickly "but i say you my friend and we can go" hahaha i laugh and after another few minutes he tells me the name: j-one, thanks but no thanks. see ya.
he grabs me back and asks: "where you go, i take you" i tell him i am going to nep and he says "today buda holiday, nep, cowboy, patpong, all closed" i laughed hard and told him i was at sc earlier and they assured me 80% of the bars would be open and even serving liquor.
i moved on and walked down to soi 7/1: eden was closed and the other little bars were open but not to my taste.
soi 7: went down to bg7, had a look, the usual typical customers and the girls did not look very good.
soi 5: gullivers was booming, nice action, nice girls and same story: loads of farangs drinking beer.
did not feel like going to nep so i went to soi oily (24/1): walked the whole soi and i can assure you of 1 thing: angel has got to be the most popular oily in bangkok.
i passed the whole bunch of teens, matsutake, rynda, menthol etc. (there is even a pizza joint there now) and they all had loads of girls outside, bored and screaming for you to come for a massage. all massage had girls outside, all but not 1: angels. angels had about 10 japanese blokes smoking outside (wow, that's a different welcome bunch lol), i entered, just out of curiosity. well, there must have been another 20 japs inside, waiting on sofas, smoking, talking, looking at the book. when i approached the counter, the lady (that knows me) gave me a sad look and pointed at the japanese: many people waiting for room, maybe 2 hour for wait (god damn! ) that meant all of their 31 rooms were already full and another 30+ people waiting. wow, angels is surely popular.
soi 24: lotus was closed (well, who cares anyway, this place is dead by now), orient was open, pink was open but i did not even consider it reading the negative reviews lately.
took a mototaxi to soi22: hana massage was open, kornwan was open (very difficult to notice them at night, they have no glowing sign, you could easily miss it), lavender was open and nuan also.
decided to go to sc: afterskool, shark were closed, the other gogos seemed open. did not even think about trying jj, fannys, toy and moonshine (no reason to go there anymore) so i ended up in sw (suzie wong). had 1 beer and left (talent was below average, way below). long gun was ok, dollhouse was soso, our place was open but i did not check it out.
i was on my way home when a hostess from baccara reeled me in (she was a stunner), i told her that i would have a drink with her and then go home. she was very nice, her face was adorable (as well as her ass), stayed with her for 2 drinks and she was a lovely conversationist. when i told her i was going home, she asked me if she could come because she is lonely and she like me (yeah yeah yeah, that's the first time i hear that one).
strange enough, it's not that late and she insists on lt. she says that she could have st and come back to have another but she wants to go lt with me. fine, who am i to refuse spending more time with this cutie (now hopefully she's as energetic in bed as she is in the bar).
went back to my condo and she started to make herself comfortable (like it was her home), it was certainly funny to watch. she was getting acquainted with the place and was amazed by its size. it's a 2 bedroom, high floor with a very nice view, she asked me " how can young man like you work in thailand have apartment nice like this? " (expensive but since the company is paying for it, why not take a nice place). i usually don't like to bring girls back to my place for the simple reason that i don't want them to show up out of the blue when they need a place to crash, are drunk or for whatever other reason, but this bird was different, given she'd only go lt, i wasn't going to book a hotel room.
she opened the fridge and claimed she was hungry, i offered to go buy something outside but she insisted we open the ice cream box i had. ok honey, knock yourself out.
she sat on the sofa and watched tv for a while, eating the ice cream right out of the box. i went to shower and she soon followed "why you shower without me? " well, i didn't have an answer to that and was pretty dumbfounded. she grabbed the shower cream and started to wash me, she wouldn't allow me to wash myself, i think she wanted to show me she was the one controlling the pace of the action and that was fine by me.
things got really hot in the shower and i had to fight hard not to fuck her in there, bareback. she was playing with me rubbing her pussy against the tip of my cock and she could see in my eyes that i was dying to insert it (i think she took an evil pleasure in doing this).
sex was great, but with the kind of foreplay and her beauty, i couldn't hold for long. after i shot, i was still rock hard and she did not need any other invitation: cleaned the stick, covered it and impaled herself on it. second time took long but i could see she did not mind.
after sex, we showered again and she got hungry, we munched on potato chips and drank ice tea while watching tv. the way she cuddled herself with me felt like she has been my girlfriend for years, she eventually fell asleep and i carried her over to the bed.
morning was early for me (work) and i was too tired for another sex performance so i woke her and asked her to get ready. she asked if she could stay and wait for me until i came back but being the cautious prick i am, i told her that i couldn't do that. she understood and went to get ready. damn she looked good in that lingerie! unbelievably tough inner fight between my big and small brain over a morning sex session, but the big brain prevailed.
got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which i never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, i was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why i hate bringing girls to my condo.
call me crazy, but i hope she doesn't show up.
but if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do i have to pay her or something? maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. i know very well about massage joints and etiquette but what about bars and these situations? i am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.
all in all, i'd say it was a good evening and a great night.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Jungle Bluebird
06-01-07, 12:42
Sorry, you give THB 200 tip and you are upset to get charged for drinks. Girls call that a 'cheap charly'.
JB.
3 days in BKK included 2 visits to the Eden Club
Eden Club is located right near Nana Skytrain, about midway down Soi 7/1 on the right side (look for the metal sign painted with the red devil, just as you walk past the Paulaner beer bar).
On Monday, hit the Eden Club at 1.15pm. Eden Club is arguably the most Terma-like place in BKK. When you walk into the bar, the girls line up – there are about 30 working. Ones to the left of the yellow line painted on the wall do anal, ones to the right don’t. You pick one girl, she takes a friend, and you go up to a nice terma-style room for some 2 v. 1 action. 3600 baht all-in, for 90 mins and guaranteed 2 pops. The girls are “kinky” by BKK standards – they use toys on each other and on you (if you like). They also seem to have genuinely good attitudes, and do "nice" things like wash you in the shower and towel you off. I had a great time. On my way out, the owner (the French guy) gave me a free water. Props to him, as I just dropped 3600 baht plus 200 each to tip the girls.
According to the owner, best time to come is either just after 1pm when they open (as there are a lot of girls) -- or between 7pm - 9pm when many customers are out to dinner, and there are more girls. They also do "take away" service after 10pm: 3000 baht buys you all night with one of the girls. That's a pretty good deal.
Tuesday - hit Eden Club again around 1.30pm. Another good 2 girl session, with one of the same girls from day before (“Waa”), who really knows her way around a strap-on. Hung out at the bar for about 15 minutes afterwards. The bar girl actually charged me for a bottle of water, as well as a glass of coca-cola. Which kind of pissed me off. Granted, they need to make $$, I understand that. But if you just spent 3600 baht there, and tipped the girls each 200-300 baht, it would be nice to at least not be charged 70 baht for the glass of coke they pour you from a 2 ltr. Bottle. *shrug*
Overall, a great place. Highly recommended. They actually have a spiral notbook at the bar where customers leave comments -- check it out, it's a fun read.
Cartman
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
AsiaTraveler2
06-01-07, 15:47
The best place to try your luck after bar closing time is the Bamboo Bar. Its almost in front of Grace hotel in Soi 3. Good live band and dancing and the drinks are reasonable specially the tequila. All the Russian girls that did not have customers in CM2 or other bars heading to this bar and many Thai girls that didn't find a customer can be had at discount rates. They close about 5 am.
It's been a while, since I have hit the Bamboo Bar. I can't imagine they are still open to 5 am., but there were some nice finds there from time to time. Hit and miss, though.
AT2
VanHalen5150
06-01-07, 19:27
Never seen it open at 5. 00am. Standard opening times are from 10. 00am. 1. 00am.
I usually stay at the Nana Inn Soi 3 (Not Nana Hotel where the cab drivers insist on taking me from the airport) which is a stones throw from the Bamboo Beer Bar.
A flying start to the tour is to get settled in at the hotel then stroll down to Annies soapy massage parlour (Soi 4) for a couple of hours then head into the Bamboo to check out the talent and collect a few telephone numbers.
Heaven Heaven Heaven
As an aside. Rather than Patpong, Nana Plaza and Cowboy bashing every night. My enjoyment mostly comes from hunting down the talent during afternoon shopping strolls around the Sukhumvit area. Amazing the quality what can be found readily available in and around the shopping malls.
On a note of caution, I had the misfortune of venturing into the elevated ground floor coffee shop area of the Grace Hotel last month only to find drugged out, used up, worn out Russian women for the price of 500 baht short time. Scarred me for life it did!
Hi all,
I tried both well known dungeon places in Bangkok, Chateau jade and Midori. Chateau Jade I found much more friendly and more exciting than Midori. However, both places do not offer any sexual practices.
Does anyone know a place where one gets a mixed treatment - painful pleasure combined with sex?
Please let me know. Thanks.
Regards,
Mich69
Jungle Bluebird
06-02-07, 03:29
hi nicfrenchy,
good to see your posts again. not sure if i count as experienced lol, but my advise is, keep it clean. pay.
yes, i guess most of us rather not pay. i went through a similar situation before and i messed it all up by not paying. girl did not say anything, but the following time turned out awkward.
jb
started out soi 8: all the little massage shops were open, aviva was closed (can understand why, they aren't even busy on regular days) but pornvillai massage (across from aviva) was open.
walked a little farther to inspect the girlies at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900): closed. mmhhh no sucking tonight.
as i walked out soi 8, a tuktuk hustler asks "where you go? " "massage? " i chuckle and decide to stay with the man. i ask him "where? which massage? " he then asks me if i am on holiday or not? i tell him not and he says "you don't know this massage, very good ladies", i insist "where? " he tells me "only for thai people, only thai people go" i laugh and ask "if only thai people, why you take me? " he is a little speechless but recovers quickly "but i say you my friend and we can go" hahaha i laugh and after another few minutes he tells me the name: j-one, thanks but no thanks. see ya.
he grabs me back and asks: "where you go, i take you" i tell him i am going to nep and he says "today buda holiday, nep, cowboy, patpong, all closed" i laughed hard and told him i was at sc earlier and they assured me 80% of the bars would be open and even serving liquor.
i moved on and walked down to soi 7/1: eden was closed and the other little bars were open but not to my taste.
soi 7: went down to bg7, had a look, the usual typical customers and the girls did not look very good.
soi 5: gullivers was booming, nice action, nice girls and same story: loads of farangs drinking beer.
did not feel like going to nep so i went to soi oily (24/1): walked the whole soi and i can assure you of 1 thing: angel has got to be the most popular oily in bangkok.
i passed the whole bunch of teens, matsutake, rynda, menthol etc. (there is even a pizza joint there now) and they all had loads of girls outside, bored and screaming for you to come for a massage. all massage had girls outside, all but not 1: angels. angels had about 10 japanese blokes smoking outside (wow, that's a different welcome bunch lol), i entered, just out of curiosity. well, there must have been another 20 japs inside, waiting on sofas, smoking, talking, looking at the book. when i approached the counter, the lady (that knows me) gave me a sad look and pointed at the japanese: many people waiting for room, maybe 2 hour for wait (god damn! ) that meant all of their 31 rooms were already full and another 30+ people waiting. wow, angels is surely popular.
soi 24: lotus was closed (well, who cares anyway, this place is dead by now), orient was open, pink was open but i did not even consider it reading the negative reviews lately.
took a mototaxi to soi22: hana massage was open, kornwan was open (very difficult to notice them at night, they have no glowing sign, you could easily miss it), lavender was open and nuan also.
decided to go to sc: afterskool, shark were closed, the other gogos seemed open. did not even think about trying jj, fannys, toy and moonshine (no reason to go there anymore) so i ended up in sw (suzie wong). had 1 beer and left (talent was below average, way below). long gun was ok, dollhouse was soso, our place was open but i did not check it out.
i was on my way home when a hostess from baccara reeled me in (she was a stunner), i told her that i would have a drink with her and then go home. she was very nice, her face was adorable (as well as her ass), stayed with her for 2 drinks and she was a lovely conversationist. when i told her i was going home, she asked me if she could come because she is lonely and she like me (yeah yeah yeah, that's the first time i hear that one).
strange enough, it's not that late and she insists on lt. she says that she could have st and come back to have another but she wants to go lt with me. fine, who am i to refuse spending more time with this cutie (now hopefully she's as energetic in bed as she is in the bar).
went back to my condo and she started to make herself comfortable (like it was her home), it was certainly funny to watch. she was getting acquainted with the place and was amazed by its size. it's a 2 bedroom, high floor with a very nice view, she asked me " how can young man like you work in thailand have apartment nice like this? " (expensive but since the company is paying for it, why not take a nice place). i usually don't like to bring girls back to my place for the simple reason that i don't want them to show up out of the blue when they need a place to crash, are drunk or for whatever other reason, but this bird was different, given she'd only go lt, i wasn't going to book a hotel room.
she opened the fridge and claimed she was hungry, i offered to go buy something outside but she insisted we open the ice cream box i had. ok honey, knock yourself out.
she sat on the sofa and watched tv for a while, eating the ice cream right out of the box. i went to shower and she soon followed "why you shower without me? " well, i didn't have an answer to that and was pretty dumbfounded. she grabbed the shower cream and started to wash me, she wouldn't allow me to wash myself, i think she wanted to show me she was the one controlling the pace of the action and that was fine by me.
things got really hot in the shower and i had to fight hard not to fuck her in there, bareback. she was playing with me rubbing her pussy against the tip of my cock and she could see in my eyes that i was dying to insert it (i think she took an evil pleasure in doing this).
sex was great, but with the kind of foreplay and her beauty, i couldn't hold for long. after i shot, i was still rock hard and she did not need any other invitation: cleaned the stick, covered it and impaled herself on it. second time took long but i could see she did not mind.
after sex, we showered again and she got hungry, we munched on potato chips and drank ice tea while watching tv. the way she cuddled herself with me felt like she has been my girlfriend for years, she eventually fell asleep and i carried her over to the bed.
morning was early for me (work) and i was too tired for another sex performance so i woke her and asked her to get ready. she asked if she could stay and wait for me until i came back but being the cautious prick i am, i told her that i couldn't do that. she understood and went to get ready. damn she looked good in that lingerie! unbelievably tough inner fight between my big and small brain over a morning sex session, but the big brain prevailed.
got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which i never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, i was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why i hate bringing girls to my condo.
call me crazy, but i hope she doesn't show up.
but if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do i have to pay her or something? maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. i know very well about massage joints and etiquette but what about bars and these situations? i am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.
all in all, i'd say it was a good evening and a great night.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
All the tims I been to Bangkok, never tried massage parlour, but this time took the courage to try one, and ended up at Teen massage on soi 33.
The girls were mostly on the 6 scale but I kinda took a liking to Nat with her ample tits.
Not bad service, french kissing, DATy and bit of rimming and she took full load in her sexy mouth, she was not keen for owo but I persuaded her with picture of the king.
I sneaked her contact tel no but time never permitted to do so.
Abse2
Started out Soi 8:
......
Got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which I never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by Tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, I was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why I hate bringing girls to my condo.
Call me crazy, but I hope she doesn't show up.
But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.
All in all, I'd say it was a Good Evening and a GREAT night.
Hey NicFrenchy,
Not being able to call me an expert in that, but some common sense may reach.
I am sure that you may not need to pay for it next time! But what does it mean?
The girl felt obviously comfortable in your environment. And I guess about 80% of them would feel the same, combined probably with a somehow nice attitude of you, with which I assume.
The girl sees a luxury apartment, a dream to live in. You may have behaved nice to her.
The result is, she will do the utmost to qualify (or come closer) to a ' more girlfriend status'. You are for sure the primary target for a longer relationship for many of the girls. Who of the girls will insist on any short minded money discussion at that time, given that chance? Sooner or later she will see (as she expects) a benefit out of that. Instead of direct payment for sex it would be indirect. Living in nice environment (sometimes), being somehow in another lifestyle (with some clothes occasionally, some diner etc.).
I expect it can be a nightmare and you have to decide which way you go.
If she is so hot that you want to bang her occasionally then I recommend to better pay her each time instead of sum it up. (Payment each time could be reduced by 500 baht - what by the way did you pay?- given a repeitive somehos stable income for her.)
It would indicate that it is still a business relationship and not a private one (for her it would be a business anyhow, just the 'private' would be more indirect payment/ payment in goods). Otherwise it can end in a nightmare.
I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later.
Let us know your decision
Regards
Brain666
...I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later...I second your wise suggestion. If you don't complete transactions you build up obligations. And that's exactly what you don't want.
I once picked up a girl on Sukhumvit at 2 am who actively refused to accept any money I offered her. (Hard to believe, even for me now). It was kind of difficult to get out of this without trouble, but she is really nice and I managed finally without bad feelings from both sides. That only because I told her that I am married when we first met.
I agree with the comments from JB and Brian.
It is completly normal for a bargirl to behave like this in this type of situation. They are always on the lookout for a "boyfriend, but not" type guy who will give them a sense of security in their chaotic bargirl life.
Although for the most part I agree with JB's "when in doubt, pay" philosophy (as that will keep everything business orientated and eliminate any risk). There is a middle area between pure business and a realationship.
She obviously enjoys being around you, so there is a very good chance that if you see her again, money may not come up at all. If she is hot like you said, she makes plenty of money.
Does that mean she's your girlfriend? No
Does that mean you are automatically locked into some sort of commitment? No
I don't think she would just show up at your place without calling, but I suppose there is always a chance.
I deffinetly understand your concern and its warrented, but I'm just saying its completly possible to have a 'friendship' with a BG without things getting out of hand.
Keep us updated
(New here. Nice to meet you all, BTW.)
Thanks for the advance,
Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!
Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK!
In my opinion, £1600 will be more than enough for one short time/massage during the day, a LT during the evening and plenty left over for food/travel/incidental expenses, everyday for your entire trip. This assumes your tastes do not require absolute DDG model quality girls every night and your regular drink doesn't include large quantities of Old #7 Black Label or Don Julio Tequila Anejo.
Expect the asking price for LT to range from £31 for moderately attractive to £62 for model quality. What you actually pay will depend on your chemistry and your negotiating skills.
There are always women around. I was in LoS around July/August last year and the hunting was quite good. There's less competition since it's not the "high season" yet. The following reports describe how I experienced things during my visit:
Part 1:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488232#post488232
Part 2:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488546#post488546
Part 3:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=490984#post490984
Part 3 Addendum:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491340#post491340
Part 4:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491363#post491363
Part 5:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=497928#post497928
Part 5 has a list of my suggestions based on my experience/tastes/interests.
To add to that, I would comment that sex two/three times a day for 12 days straight can be pretty strenuous unless you have the lebido of a teenager or use some sort of "recreational pharmaceutical". You will probably have a day or two in there that you just want to rest alone and "recharge".
Cheers,
Fox Two
-But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.-
Hey Frenchy,
If you do not pay her EVERYTIME, you will pay a much, much higher price emotionally & maybe physically later.
Hey Mich,
Try BarBar in Patpong: http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/home.html
I've never been there but it looks interesting. If you go, please give a report.
TKP1
Hi all,
I tried both well known dungeon places in Bangkok, Chateau jade and Midori. Chateau Jade I found much more friendly and more exciting than Midori. However, both places do not offer any sexual practices.
Does anyone know a place where one gets a mixed treatment - painful pleasure combined with sex?
Please let me know. Thanks.
Regards,
Mich69
Hurricane 2
06-04-07, 01:31
If you want a guarantee DDG, your best bet is to go to MP like Utopia. Go to the high end level and pick a girl. The MP usually close at 11pm. You can always make a side deal with them for after work activity.
Girls are not easy to pick up in places like Hollywood if you can not speak Thai. DDG is a matter of taste. If you are looking for semi pro, the local usually go to the coffee house at the Siam Hotel in Petchaburi or the In Love coffee house in Ratchadapisek area. This is usually where my colleagues take me when I am in BKK.
The Thai men prefer more fair skin girls. If this is your taste then the above recommendation will hold. If you prefer the dark skin girls, then any of the bars in Sukhumvit lower Soi area will be the place to be.
The local Thai girls who like to party usually hangs out in the Soi 55 Thonglor area in Sukhumvit.
Good luck and good hunting.
Thanks for the advance,
Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!
Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK!
AsiaTraveler2
06-04-07, 01:47
Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK!
I have been to the Pent. Quite nice and great selection of girls (100+, by rough estimate). Well worth the look. The place is loud, at least in the stage area. There's a band. There's also alot of people talking.
There's a pool area that you past through, to get to a back bar area, where there are many more girls. I have never seen that pool in use. Too bad. Lot's of bodies I would not mind seeing in a Bikini.
AT2
NicFrenchy
06-04-07, 05:53
thanks guys. i really appreciate your help.
i saw her a second time and we had as much fun as the first.
it's funny because i initially offered st and she refused, she said she wants lt and insisted we go to my place.
we did and it was great. the guard at the entrance was asleep (mouth open) when we arrived and even the noise from her heels did not even wake him up.
paid her 2000 (same as last time) and she accepted it (normal since i got her from the bar).
we talked a little about each other and i told her i am a big butterfly, she giggled and said she knows because she saw me many times in cowboy, she even told me she saw me go out with some baccara girls.
how the hell do these girls do it? where do they store all the memories? i was speechless but happy she understood this would never go past the client-provider relationship... or maybe she has set herself a goal of trying to corrupt me? lol
i did buy a new 1000 thb crappy cellphone @ mbk and have a prepaid card in it, i gave her the number in case. first time i do this, but i don't care, if it gets out of hand, i’ll just throw away the sim card.
Hey Guys,
I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.
Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.
There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
AsiaTraveler2
06-04-07, 14:31
Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help.
I saw her a second time and we had as much fun as the first.
It's funny because I initially offered ST and she refused, she said she wants LT and insisted we go to my place.
We did and it was great. The Guard at the entrance was asleep (mouth open) when we arrived and even the noise from her heels did not even wake him up.
Nic,
Should have popped a Viagra in his mouth and see if he woke up with a hard-on he couldn't get rid of. LOL!
AT2
M P Lurker
06-04-07, 14:38
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Got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which I never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by Tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, I was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why I hate bringing girls to my condo.
Call me crazy, but I hope she doesn't show up.
But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.
All in all, I'd say it was a Good Evening and a GREAT night.
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Nic Frenchy,
Firstly let me that I feel a lot of emphathy with your reports.
I feel that you are a wayward monger like me, but are still a nice guy with the girls, not too stingy, and clearly girls like you.
However I would have fucked her in the morning again because I'm always horny in the morning, not much is open, and a bird in the hand .... :-)
You have got yourself a Mongering phone number so it can be switched off or the SIM disposed of if you have a serious girlfriend and don't want to monger anymore (I'm not serious here :-) Set the ring to buzz so you don't always have to answer or set different rings for different girls if the phone has that feature.
Its very common for girls to want phone numbers.
One massage girl with big tits rang me persistently for days before she finally gave up on last trip, but I was busy and chemistry with her wasn't there (she seemed money hungry).
Not all bar girls are the same. Some can be very nice girls and some could even be looking for a nice boyfriend.
I have met bargirls whose character was far too good for what I deserve (but rarely).
She had a good time with you and made some money. Now clearly she would love to spend more time with you taking her away from the dreary bar life.
I would advise to keep paying her until she refuses to take it.
If she keeps refusing to take the money, you will have to start wondering what is going on then, but these girls obviously need money to pay the bills.
Sometimes they might give the odd freebie to indicate that they really do like you heaps despite being a bargirl.
In general I have found that girlfriends are more expensive in the long run, especially if they don't have a non P4P job, since you would end up supporting them full time. So its easier to pay for services rendered.
Thanks for your reports on Angels. I will certainly try it for the first time on next visit to Thailand end of July, assuming I don't get too carried away with a girl I know well already.
I have been to the Pent. Quite nice and great selection of girls (100+, by rough estimate). Well worth the look.
What type of place is this? Standard disco/nightclub? And what kind of girls are these? I mean aside from DDG -- are they clearly working or is this a spot that would be very difficult for somebody not Thai-fluent to navigate?
My experience with straight SEA nightclubs is that it's awful tough to mix and mingle with people (and therefore, with the girls) since they're all at separate tables in groups, which makes it awkward to approach, esp. if you don't speak the language. It's also tough to tell which groups are just friends hanging out together, and which are girls who might be available and working. And then often if it is someone who's working, they've often already been taken by someone else, and that's who's at their table.
Usually I just give up on this kind of scene and go elsewhere, just too difficult. But maybe I'm going about it wrong. Or maybe this place isn't like that. Hope so. Sounds interesting.
Hi NIcFrenchy
As I have read in your report you have just got your "Grilie Phone".
I have one since 2 years (not for Thailand - Live in Nigeria).
One tip for the phone, get a camera phone. After a while you will have numerous Lek's, Noi's and what ever. When storing the number take a picture and save it under the number. That way you save a lot of brain power.
Hello Rob,
There's a place in Washington Square right across the street from New Square Pub One called Huttasat 2. Last time I went about a year ago, they charged 250bht for a 2 hour massage. Cheapest I found by far. At this price, of course I tipped my massage girl well.
Washington Square is located just off Sukhumvit Soi 22. I always stay at the Nana Hotel on Soi 4. You can either walk for 10 mins or take the sky train one stop to Asoke, 15bht. 3 mins.
Check out this map: http://www.bangkokeyes.com/mapwash.html
Enjoy,
TKP1
Hey Guys,
I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.
Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.
There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
NicFrenchy
06-04-07, 16:32
Nic Frenchy,
I have met bargirls whose character was far too good for what I deserve (but rarely).Hahaha. I caught myself thinking that many times LOL
Thanks Mick. Your views are always deeply appreciated.
You are right, she is one girl I find is very nice and a little different than the others. Maybe looking for a nice boyfriend (but that's not what I have in mind).
We'll see how it goes. Giving her my Phone number already got use, she sent me 8 SMS. Let's see where that goes; )
Hey again Rob,
If you take the Sky Train, you might want to go 2 stops from Nana & get off at Prom Phong (20bht) and walk back a little. According to this map, it seems closer than getting off at Asoke.
Take a look: http://www.bangkokeyes.com/areamapwash.jpg
TKP1
Hey Guys,
I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.
Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.
There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
AsiaTraveler2
06-04-07, 18:42
What type of place is this? Standard disco/nightclub? And what kind of girls are these? I mean aside from DDG -- are they clearly working or is this a spot that would be very difficult for somebody not Thai-fluent to navigate?
It's a club set-up, but I think it's pretty clear all the girls are there to work. You pay for the lady's drink, there's food. Like a KTV set up. There's a stage area with a live band. Couches in front of the stage. Bar in the front section just behind the couch area. A pool in the middle room and a bar in the back section. I hear it was a Coyote bar type set up in the back, but not when I visited.
The mama will introduce you to a girl or you can walk around and see if you can catch someone's eye. Come to think of it, the crowd seemed entirely Asian. I could be wrong on that one, but I don't recall seeing any Westerners. I believe the girls are all freelancers, but I'm not 100% sure. They are pricey .. 4,000 baht and up.
I hear there are private rooms upstairs.
AT2
Damn... that sounds just right. I've never heard of this place. Sounds like a must see for sure. (Must try, I should say) Is this Hollywood Club the same setup?
Where are these places? Been around long?
Sorry for all the questions. Just when you think you know everything you need to know, along comes something.
Damn... that sounds just right. I've never heard of this place. Sounds like a must see for sure. (Must try, I should say) Is this Hollywood Club the same setup?
Where are these places? Been around long?
Sorry for all the questions. Just when you think you know everything you need to know, along comes something.The Pent is on Wireless road, Hollywood on Rachada soi 11.
When I went to the Pent roughly a year ago, the deal was either buy a bottle ( Baht 3500 + mixers) or buy a membership ( 20,000 Baht for which you get 10 bottles and free mixers). Mamasan will approach you and introduce 4-6 girls, should you not like any of them she will bring some more until you find what you are looking for.
Quality of the girls is very good, but expect to pay a high price. I paid 4000 Baht LT, opening bid from the girl was 8000.
Hollywood is an entirely different setup, more like a regular club and has been around for at least 10 years (maybe more). Loads of girls, but not all professionals although the majority are. Went there 3 times and scored 1x for free, 1x 2500 LT (turned out to be a Massage Parlour girl) and 1x no luck.
Both places are worth a visit.
Hey Mich,
Try BarBar in Patpong: http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/home.html
I've never been there but it looks interesting. If you go, please give a report.
TKP1
I was once in BarBar, November last year. This year April it was closed for renovation. There is another bar of that kind somewhere in Sukomvith (soi 50+) called castle or so. There is also a castle bar in Pattaya.
http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1711.htm
Well, BarBar in Patpong II has the same setup and prices like castle bar in Pattaya. In the castle bar in Bangkok I was never.
You have to pay a entrance fee from 900 Bath, which includes a drink if I am not wrong. Inside are some girls. Mostly not too good looking. Since I was the only guest I was surrounded by many girls as soon I had a sit a the bar. The girls starts a show for me. Spanking each other or play with hot wax.
Well, one asked me to spank a slave girl. First I hesitate since I thought they will expect than that I pay them a drink, but I saw a quite pretty girl and I asked if I can spank her instead. She agreed and I start to spank her, even hard.
Well, she pretend that she liked it. She asked me if I like to go with her upstairs. If I am not wrong she wanted 3000 Bath and the Bar wants also 1000 Barfine. I said that is much too expensive. She told me that she could give me a BJ while I spank her for 1000 Bath. I agreed, so we went to a side room. It was a open room and anybody in the bar could see what we do.
Well she gave me a BBBJ and I spanked her. She was not bad and very devoting and submissive. Just I couldn't come. (I never come just from a BJ). I tried to convince her to meet me after her work, but she didn't came. So, I went again to BarBar next day, because I wanted to sleep with her.
At the entrance I said I don't want pay the 900 Bath entrance fee, also don't want pay the 1000 bath Barfine. I told them I just want pay the 3000 Bath for the girl and have a ST with her upstairs. They agreed and so I went with the girl (don't know her name, just that she was from Bangkok and 19 years old) upstairs. I spanked her a while, than I fucked her ass. She said it was her first, time. Might be true. Well, I didn't enjoyed much, it was a fantasy which I could live out, but I realized that it's better in the fantasy than in real life. She also did not liked it since it was painful for her.
Nevertheless she asked me to come back the next day. But, I did not had the wish to try it anymore.
I am glad that I tried it, but now I know that SM is not that what I like.
I have good experience in Bangkok area Soi Nana, almost always nice women and good prices too. But in this last trip I found a nice female (at least I thought this!!!) and was a Katoy !!!!
I really don’t know how this can happen with my experience and the previous chat with him!!! Only in the room I saw the bad surprise.
Therefore my request or advice to the experts here how can I recognize this? All the signals were from a cute woman and I wonder if with the ID can I realize this in advance and avoid this situation in the future. How is recorded in the IDs? Maybe in Thai language could help us
Thanks in advance for your recommendations
Fish N Chips
06-05-07, 00:16
LOL, hey man thats funny.
Had a friend almost do the same thing, I even had one try to snug up on me. LOL HOWEVER I happen to see the adams apple, and then asked "you katoy?" It's reply "yes but I nit-noy". I didn't make a seen, just said no thanks and that was that. My friends story included some thing about Berry White. Funny LOL may be I'll post it later.
If it has Fake-Ns think twice, If its taller then 5' and has Fake-Ns, think twice and ask. If you keep finding that you have to ask, you may need to re-Eval your idea of what a asian women should look like.
Funny, but a good topic for the New-Bees
By the way what were your travel buddies doing, they should have been backing you up??? LOL
I have good experience in Bangkok area Soi Nana, almost always nice women and good prices too. But in this last trip I found a nice female (at least I thought this!!!) and was a Katoy !!!!
I really don’t know how this can happen with my experience and the previous chat with him!!! Only in the room I saw the bad surprise.
Therefore my request or advice to the experts here how can I recognize this? All the signals were from a cute woman and I wonder if with the ID can I realize this in advance and avoid this situation in the future. How is recorded in the IDs? Maybe in Thai language could help us
Thanks in advance for your recommendations
RetiredForever
06-05-07, 03:40
So you have done all of your research. You have read all the previous postings. You have visions of women rushing to satisfy your every fantasy. Let's face it you will get your fantasy fulfilled in Thailand. It is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow. I do not care how old and fat you are the women will want to whisk you away to fulfill your every fantasy (of course at a price). So why bother with Bangkok. I present this thesis. With the new airport you are only about 2 1/2 hours away from Pattaya. Cost about 1200B-1600B taxicab ride away. The Nana area takes 45 minutes and costs 250B. Once you arrive you basically have the hordes of women around the Nana area all screaming to catch your attention or you can hassle with the taxicab drivers and go to Soi Cowboy. That is basically your 2 choices. Now if you are short on time Bangkok is not bad. If you have 3 or more days why not go for the full package. In Bangkok the hotel rooms will cost you more, the bar fines are higher, the girls will ask for more, the service at hotels is lousy, the food choices poor, there are hordes of people, etc. You are basically captive in a very confined area. If you usually shop at the 7/11 for Christmas then go to Bangkok. If you prefer to shop at Walmart where the choices are endless and the pricing is great go to Pattaya. Do not get me wrong. The Nana area has its good points. There is nothing like a visit to Annie's, Eden Club or Lolitta's for their unique specials. But what do you do the rest of the time?
Member #2041
06-05-07, 04:19
How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:
1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing
2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy
3) Beware of large hands
4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.
5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.
For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.
Jungle Bluebird
06-05-07, 04:29
At times katoys come for interviews. When it's for management positions I sometimes conduct interviews myself.
Yes, katoys are somewhat quite integrated in Thai society. I would not mind hiring, after all what counts are results. I found that Gays and Katois are very competitive and get the job done (work related I mean:-).
Point is that some of them are just close to 100% perfect in looks. At times I could not see (or hear) the difference.
Only thing which gave it away was the ID card. Seems though that the Thai staff spots them a mile away.
JB
How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:
1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing
2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy
3) Beware of large hands
4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.
5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.
For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.
Fresh Meat 2
06-05-07, 11:31
So you have done all of your research. You have read all the previous postings. You have visions of women rushing to satisfy your every fantasy. Let's face it you will get your fantasy fulfilled in Thailand. It is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow. I do not care how old and fat you are the women will want to whisk you away to fulfill your every fantasy (of course at a price). So why bother with Bangkok. I present this thesis. With the new airport you are only about 2 1/2 hours away from Pattaya. Cost about 1200B-1600B taxicab ride away. The Nana area takes 45 minutes and costs 250B. Once you arrive you basically have the hordes of women around the Nana area all screaming to catch your attention or you can hassle with the taxicab drivers and go to Soi Cowboy. That is basically your 2 choices. Now if you are short on time Bangkok is not bad. If you have 3 or more days why not go for the full package. In Bangkok the hotel rooms will cost you more, the bar fines are higher, the girls will ask for more, the service at hotels is lousy, the food choices poor, there are hordes of people, etc. You are basically captive in a very confined area. If you usually shop at the 7/11 for Christmas then go to Bangkok. If you prefer to shop at Walmart where the choices are endless and the pricing is great go to Pattaya. Do not get me wrong. The Nana area has its good points. There is nothing like a visit to Annie's, Eden Club or Lolitta's for their unique specials. But what do you do the rest of the time?Retiredforever,
When it comes to Bangkok versus Pattaya, we all have a preference.
I had my first trip to LOS in 1994, I'm now a veteran of 20+ trips, most trips are for around 3 weeks, I visited Pattaya in 1994 and out of the next 20 or so trips to LOS I've only been back to Pattaya on 3 occasions, I just hate the place, yet I've heard numerous others rave about it.
What is it I dislike so much about Pattaya? I think the overall standard of girls is lower in Pattaya, also on the few occasions I've been there I've thought that the standard of the average punter left a lot to be desired, don't get me wrong, I've seen the loud/overweight/over 40//balding yobos in Bangkok as well, just don't seem as prevelant in Bangkok.
The other thing is on my first 5 or 6 trips to Bkok I was very fortunate to be shown around by a friend of mine that was domiciled in Bkok, he was a private investigator, and new the city like the back of his hand.
In your post you mentioned nana and cowboy as basically your 2 choices, hell on most trips to bkok I stay in either suk 11 or 19 and I don't even venture into nana, I may poke my nose into cowboy once or twice during a 3 week stay, there are so many other places in bkok that leave nana and cowboy for dead.
I guess I'll always be a fan of bkok.
Good punting.
How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:
1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing
2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy
3) Beware of large hands
4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.
5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.
For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.
I still wonder how is the ID of this people? even in Thai language any advice?
I still wonder how is the ID of this people? even in Thai language any advice?
I was once told to check ID before the name there is MR or MRS
2 thai symbols for MR. or 3-4 for MRS.
Could any of our local expats verify this!
I was once told to check ID before the name there is MR or MRS
2 thai symbols for MR. or 3-4 for MRS.
Could any of our local expats verify this!
They can have fake ID's made on Kao San Road. The way they walk and their lack of modesty are dead give aways. LBz are flashy with their privates and when heading up the skytrain stairs they cannot fake the walk as women have different pelvises for having children. Asian girls generally have modesty hard coded into they haidz, while the LB'z are proud of their recent surgically acquired devices and will flash you. You will find that many expats stay in Thailand for the LBz. Dudes get work papers and get jobs over there just to frolic with the catooees. You can see big, bad ass ex military, musclemen wimpering as their cattoee scolds them. A Thai private eye told me of an American that has farhang bicycle "tours" with ladyboys in tow and they even ran ads in a newspaper up here in NYC. Often the catooee mongers will slander other mongers to create a smoke screen. It is sad how the extremely poor people in S.America and Asia will feed birth control pills to their wee lads that are born with pretty faces to help them develop feminine characteristics so they can sell their bodies to support their families. In India there is a whole caste born like that. Hijras (aka Hijaras) have no choice and used to be castrated but now are forced to be gender bent into LBz.
NicFrenchy
06-06-07, 04:24
I think we all get the point.
Can we now talk about Something else than Katoeys?
For fuck's sake, what is this forum about? Pussy or not?
AsiaTraveler2
06-06-07, 09:00
. You are basically captive in a very confined area. If you usually shop at the 7/11 for Christmas then go to Bangkok. If you prefer to shop at Walmart where the choices are endless and the pricing is great go to Pattaya. Do not get me wrong. The Nana area has its good points. There is nothing like a visit to Annie's, Eden Club or Lolitta's for their unique specials. But what do you do the rest of the time?
I have never lacked for things to do in BKK. Sorry, but I must disagree. Besides, BKK is more than just the Nana area. I also find that there are far more options, variety, etc. in BKK for both the woman and the eats.
To each his own.
AT2
I have biz visit once a while to BKK and am looking around for a suitable karaoke place. Please don't flame me for not RTFF but I'm looking for a reasonable priced karaoke lounge ( more english based ) in BKK where the standard activities are available , with ladies for take out. Can't afford those fancy karaokes where the Japs usually hang out so , can the local expats here help out !
Cheers !
Xerus
Jimmy Red Cab
06-06-07, 14:06
I think we all get the point.
Can we now talk about Something else than Katoeys?
For fuck's sake, what is this forum about? Pussy or not?
The forum is about mongering in Thailand, if some guys prefer Katoeys that is their choice, there are four Katoey bars in Nana Plaza, that tells me that there must be a demand for them.
Traveler1234
06-06-07, 17:46
The forum is about mongering in Thailand, if some guys prefer Katoeys that is their choice, there are four Katoey bars in Nana Plaza, that tells me that there must be a demand for them.
Jackson says posting re katoey is an absolute NO NO. I would politely suggest the subject be dropped or face being banished from ISG.
Mark Pinksy
06-06-07, 19:55
So, is the Pent like posiedon or other massage parlour where you take the girl upstairs?
The Pent is on Wireless road, Hollywood on Rachada soi 11.
When I went to the Pent roughly a year ago, the deal was either buy a bottle ( Baht 3500 + mixers) or buy a membership ( 20,000 Baht for which you get 10 bottles and free mixers). Mamasan will approach you and introduce 4-6 girls, should you not like any of them she will bring some more until you find what you are looking for.
Quality of the girls is very good, but expect to pay a high price. I paid 4000 Baht LT, opening bid from the girl was 8000.
Hollywood is an entirely different setup, more like a regular club and has been around for at least 10 years (maybe more). Loads of girls, but not all professionals although the majority are. Went there 3 times and scored 1x for free, 1x 2500 LT (turned out to be a Massage Parlour girl) and 1x no luck.
Both places are worth a visit.
Norcalguy69
06-06-07, 22:08
I'm going to be in Bangkok for four days and then heading to Hua Hin and staying at the Hyatt. Given the limited P4P in Hua Hin, I'm thinking of bringing a girl with me.
Any tips and advice from those of you who have done this on how to select a compatible companion for one of these trips? Any questions I can ask the girl that would help predict whether she would be a good one to take with me? I will at least go LT with the girl before considering asking her to go with me, but with only four days before I leave, I probably need to get started looking as soon as I get there.
Member #2041
06-07-07, 02:37
I'm going to be in Bangkok for four days and then heading to Hua Hin and staying at the Hyatt. Given the limited P4P in Hua Hin, I'm thinking of bringing a girl with me.
I wouldn't bother. For starters, Hua Hin's P4P opportunities are not all that limited. There are dozens of lady bars within a few blocks of the Hua Hin Hilton. And secondly, I have found that you cannot force it as far as meeting ladies who are actually good companions for more than a few good shags. There is a BIG difference between someone who's good to fuck, and someone whom you actually want to be around for several days at a time while NOT just fucking them.
If you meet someone worth taking a few days trip with, you will know it. But, I'd expect that the ladies who make good trip companions might be at BEST, 1 in 10, and more likely, closer to 1 in 100.
RetiredForever
06-07-07, 03:09
The following information is primarily directed towards newbies for generalization purposes. Senior members will agree that some of the information does not always hold true. I am a new member as you can see by number of postings. I have just completed my fourth 2 month trip to Thailand so by no means an expert. After having read just about every posting I felt I should make my contribution. So here are a few generalizations that may assist you in having a great time:
1. It is all about the money. Do not kid yourself that someone has been waiting their entire life just on the chance of finally meeting the fine sole that I am sure you are.
2. Everything is negotiable in Thailand.
3. Do not give your email address or phone number out. You will be hearing all about their bad luck the rest of your life asking you to help out. There is always someone I'll, the water buffalo just died, the rice field etc, etc. The girls are always on the lookout for another sponsor.
4. If you take one to your place have an exit strategy. Remember most of them share a very small one room flat with 3-4 other people. If you lived that way wouldn't you want to stay in a large hotel room with cable, A/see, hot water, soft bed with clean sheets, etc.
5. Do not be sucked into buying drinks for their friend who has not been "lucky" that night. It is somewhat of their belief that since you have been "lucky" enough to afford to come there you should pass your luck around. Some of that belief has its merits but pick and chose where YOU want to pass some luck along.
6. The argument the bar girls will make about bar fines is you are essentially buying an insurance policy against being robbed, change of heart once in room, get what you paid for, no HIV. If you have a problem you can in theory go back to bar and complain, which potentially can cause problems for the girl, and get your bar fine back. With freelancers you may regret the bar fine you saved. Ran into a long time resident of the Nana area once. He told me how he would buy a bunch of cheap knock off gold necklaces. Whenever he went to bed he would make point of placing on counter. Usually it and the girl were gone in the morning. He figured it was cheaper that way. What could she do.come back and complain that she stole a cheap necklace.
7. I was told by one of the bar girls it was true that the bar fine goes to the bar up to a point. If she was bar fined more than 6? Times in a month she got 1/2 the bar fine. Sounded logical to me. She also mentioned that a girl was not bar fined enough she was fired. She was not making enough money for the bar.
8. The bar girl gets 1/2 the price of the drink you buy here. I have sat in the same bar all night and seen some girls not have one drink bought for them. What kind of amazes me is that they look at it that they were not "lucky" that night. Maybe the next night will be better. If you will notice whenever you see a bar you will see a small shrine with incense and drinks. Every girl when she comes to work will make a small offering and say a small prayer hoping for a lucky night. So point is if you sit with a girl for awhile or play connect 4 or one of the other games buy her a drink. That is how she makes her money.
9. Agree up front what services you want rendered. Do not expect certain items off the usual menu without agreeing in advance. Better to be turned down before you have paid bar fine than after you get to room.
10. Personally I have found that if the girl is not out going and enthusiastic while talking to her she probably will not be much better after you leave.
Just a few thoughts to think about before you adventure out. Nothing earth shattering but food for thought. Above all else never ever forget #1 It is all about the money.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
ladies who make good trip companions might be at BEST, 1 in 10, and more likely, closer to 1 in 100.
1 in a 1000 ! But not impossible, and quite a nice experience if you are open for that type of experience.
I have travelled repeatedly with my "friend", and watched other mates travelling with me who believe in the 3F approach. I've come back from a golf game to find a hot bath run, received a sensual massage and great sex, while they come back from golf and have a few drinks, get ready to go to the Novotel, and come back with various girls, with highly varible results in terms of a) quality of experience b) quantity of experience.
But they enjoy what they do, I enjoy what i do!
(although on many occasions after not so good experiences they tell me they wish they had an arrangement like mine...)
You just need to keep a reality perspective - don't fall in love (she won't) don't try to change her (she won't) - just enjoy the moments!
:-)
Ozirob
Member #2041
06-07-07, 03:51
1 in a 1000 ! But not impossible, and quite a nice experience if you are open for that type of experience.
I have travelled repeatedly with my "friend", and watched other mates travelling with me who believe in the 3F approach. I've come back from a golf game to find a hot bath run, received a sensual massage and great sex, while they come back from golf and have a few drinks, get ready to go to the Novotel, and come back with various girls, with highly varible results in terms of a) quality of experience b) quantity of experience.
But they enjoy what they do, I enjoy what i do!
(although on many occasions after not so good experiences they tell me they wish they had an arrangement like mine...)
You just need to keep a reality perspective - don't fall in love (she won't) don't try to change her (she won't) - just enjoy the moments!
:-)
Ozirob
I agree, it's great if it happens (And I have experienced the exstacy of it when it does). But my contention is, you cannot PLAN IN ADVANCE on finding such a lady in just a few days trip. When you go in with that type of goal in mind, you will probably end up force-fitting it with a lady who is NOT that 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 lady, but rather, whom you will be sorry you took with you. It's one thing to be open to the experience if it happens naturally, but it's quite another to go in with the agenda of making it happen. If that's the plan, I predict a dismal failure.
I'm going to be in Bangkok for four days and then heading to Hua Hin and staying at the Hyatt. Given the limited P4P in Hua Hin, I'm thinking of bringing a girl with me.
Any tips and advice from those of you who have done this on how to select a compatible companion for one of these trips? Any questions I can ask the girl that would help predict whether she would be a good one to take with me? I will at least go LT with the girl before considering asking her to go with me, but with only four days before I leave, I probably need to get started looking as soon as I get there.
I have been to that Hyatt with my TGF several times. The hotel is out by itself and not very convienent to town. I don't think they would hassle you about bringing someone back, but you will stick out. The hotel guests tend to be family, so there will not be many young Thai girls there. And the bigger the age gap between you and your "date" the more the older farang women will give you those dirty looks.
Member #2041
06-07-07, 04:24
I have been to that Hyatt with my TGF several times. The hotel is out by itself and not very convienent to town. I don't think they would hassle you about bringing someone back, but you will stick out. The hotel guests tend to be family, so there will not be many young Thai girls there. And the bigger the age gap between you and your "date" the more the older farang women will give you those dirty looks.
Agreed. If at all possible, the Hilton and the Sofitel are much more conveniently located in the center of Hua Hin. There are also several much less upscale places in the midst of the lady bars, such as the Thipurai City Inn.
NicFrenchy
06-07-07, 08:33
I have been to that Hyatt with my TGF several times. The hotel is out by itself and not very convienent to town. I don't think they would hassle you about bringing someone back, but you will stick out. The hotel guests tend to be family, so there will not be many young Thai girls there. And the bigger the age gap between you and your "date" the more the older farang women will give you those dirty looks.I always stay at the Hyatt when in HH and never had a problem with bringing back a girl. There are also other Expats by the Pool with Thai Girls.
If the Older Farang women give you a dirty look, just smile and say hello, they will run away from you pretty quick.
Hyatt is a very nice property just 2 miles from HH, rent a bike there and it will be only 5mn drive from Center HH to Hyatt. Hilton hotel not that nice, I like the Resort Feel of the Hyatt better. Marriott also has the best Beach in HH.
HH has plenty of Girls available, you'll for sure find what you are looking for there
Norcalguy69
06-07-07, 08:49
Thanks everyone for the advice on finding a girl to take. I'll go with the expectation that it's unlikely I'll find someone and not try to force it.
FWIW, I'm an American-born Chinese (I look mixed though, I'm often mistaken for being half Caucasian or even Latino or Pacific Islander sometimes) who can pass for under 30, although I'm 10 years older than that, so perhaps I won't stick out if I'm with a twenty-something Thai girl.
So, is the Pent like posiedon or other massage parlour where you take the girl upstairs?The Pent is not a massage parlour nor do they have short time rooms on the premises.
The girls will keep you company and if you like her you take her out. I forgot to mention that you have to pay the bar the time she sits with you, if memory serves me right it was around 300 Baht/45 minutes for each girl.
Other establishments that are similar to the Pent are the Champagne room ( between the JW Marriott and NEP) and the Ritz on Soi 11 ( next to Q bar)
Jan 1969 said: "When I went to the Pent roughly a year ago, the deal was either buy a bottle (Baht 3500 + mixers) or buy a membership (20, 000 Baht for which you get 10 bottles and free mixers"
I went there about a year ago too, and the deal was Baht 600 cover charge = 2 beers, NO other charges or requests. I could have sat there all night for Bt600 (if I only drank two beers). No buying bottle or membership mentioned to me.
Luke Skywalker
06-07-07, 11:17
The following information is primarily directed towards newbies for generalization purposes. Senior members will agree that some of the information does not always hold true. I am a new member as you can see by number of postings. I have just completed my fourth 2 month trip to Thailand so by no means an expert. After having read just about every posting I felt I should make my contribution. So here are a few generalizations that may assist you in having a great time:
1. It is all about the money. Do not kid yourself that someone has been waiting their entire life just on the chance of finally meeting the fine sole that I am sure you are.
2. Everything is negotiable in Thailand.
3. Do not give your email address or phone number out. You will be hearing all about their bad luck the rest of your life asking you to help out. There is always someone I'll, the water buffalo just died, the rice field etc, etc. The girls are always on the lookout for another sponsor.
4. If you take one to your place have an exit strategy. Remember most of them share a very small one room flat with 3-4 other people. If you lived that way wouldn't you want to stay in a large hotel room with cable, A/see, hot water, soft bed with clean sheets, etc.
5. Do not be sucked into buying drinks for their friend who has not been "lucky" that night. It is somewhat of their belief that since you have been "lucky" enough to afford to come there you should pass your luck around. Some of that belief has its merits but pick and chose where YOU want to pass some luck along.
6. The argument the bar girls will make about bar fines is you are essentially buying an insurance policy against being robbed, change of heart once in room, get what you paid for, no HIV. If you have a problem you can in theory go back to bar and complain, which potentially can cause problems for the girl, and get your bar fine back. With freelancers you may regret the bar fine you saved. Ran into a long time resident of the Nana area once. He told me how he would buy a bunch of cheap knock off gold necklaces. Whenever he went to bed he would make point of placing on counter. Usually it and the girl were gone in the morning. He figured it was cheaper that way. What could she do.come back and complain that she stole a cheap necklace.
7. I was told by one of the bar girls it was true that the bar fine goes to the bar up to a point. If she was bar fined more than 6? Times in a month she got 1/2 the bar fine. Sounded logical to me. She also mentioned that a girl was not bar fined enough she was fired. She was not making enough money for the bar.
8. The bar girl gets 1/2 the price of the drink you buy here. I have sat in the same bar all night and seen some girls not have one drink bought for them. What kind of amazes me is that they look at it that they were not "lucky" that night. Maybe the next night will be better. If you will notice whenever you see a bar you will see a small shrine with incense and drinks. Every girl when she comes to work will make a small offering and say a small prayer hoping for a lucky night. So point is if you sit with a girl for awhile or play connect 4 or one of the other games buy her a drink. That is how she makes her money.
9. Agree up front what services you want rendered. Do not expect certain items off the usual menu without agreeing in advance. Better to be turned down before you have paid bar fine than after you get to room.
10. Personally I have found that if the girl is not out going and enthusiastic while talking to her she probably will not be much better after you leave.
Just a few thoughts to think about before you adventure out. Nothing earth shattering but food for thought. Above all else never ever forget #1 It is all about the money.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
RE: Point 6
Some knockoff gold necklaces for a night of porn. Classic.
AsiaTraveler2
06-07-07, 12:21
So, is the Pent like posiedon or other massage parlour where you take the girl upstairs?
I believe it's strictly take out, although I'm not an expert on the place, having been there just twice now. I did not see any rooms, nor was I offered to go to any rooms. You sit and drink with the girl and decide if you are interested, if not see if you can find someone else you fancy.
There's a stage where a band plays for most of the evening and a back bar area, where the guys and gals mingle. There was also a small room, where more girls were sitting down. Nice selection.
AT2
Jan 1969 said: "When I went to the Pent roughly a year ago, the deal was either buy a bottle (Baht 3500 + mixers) or buy a membership (20, 000 Baht for which you get 10 bottles and free mixers"
I went there about a year ago too, and the deal was Baht 600 cover charge = 2 beers, NO other charges or requests. I could have sat there all night for Bt600 (if I only drank two beers). No buying bottle or membership mentioned to me.Sounds like you got a better deal than I did, I didn't purchase the membership but did buy a bottle of whiskey. I'll visit them on my next trip and see what has changed.
Did you come to an agreement with one of the girls? If so, how much did you end up paying?
Thanks everyone for the advice on finding a girl to take. I'll go with the expectation that it's unlikely I'll find someone and not try to force it.
FWIW, I'm an American-born Chinese (I look mixed though, I'm often mistaken for being half Caucasian or even Latino or Pacific Islander sometimes) who can pass for under 30, although I'm 10 years older than that, so perhaps I won't stick out if I'm with a twenty-something Thai girl.
Now listen up!
From "here to Hanoi", all they just want your money. I'm a fat, pockmark faced, balding 64 year old and I see all these guys 1/2-1/3rd my age with nasty old dragons. I met some British dude on the plane that looked like a young Ben Cross and he tagged along w/us into the Nana lot last Labor Day and immediately got into the grasp of a silicone titted, 30 something trollup that kept him in her grips for the rest of his trip. She dragged him off to Kho Samoi, and other places with a whole lot less availabe booty so she'd have control. Don't waste you time with the same girl! I found when you take them someplace, just like the ones back home, they suddenly feel like they are in contol of the situations. We were drilling 20 year olds while this stud looking guy was taking this tatooed 'ho out to restaurants and off to other places. I might take a cute one to Bangkok from Pattaya for the day by bus, and that is IT!. I have left several by the side of the road and have had many ejected from my hotel because they'd get pissy and snap at me for silly crap when I'd take them on road trips. You pack their bags while they are in the shower and call security. Watching them on their knees, wai-ing and begging forgivness is almost as much fun as getting your butt licked at Eden while getting a knob polishing. There is a lot of "face losing" that these ladies need to undergo. They might threaten you with an ass kicking from a Cop or a katooee (sorry) but I have never had any repercussions. You never forgive them, you just leave them there and move on. With the pooyings they are always seeing how far they can push you and how much they can get you to buy them. And the most cunning ones know how to do it without even asking!!
Generosity=Weakness in the Thai Society. Check out the pics I have posted in the past.
Went to the Biergarten on Soi 7 last night around 5 pm. The place was quite full, with a nice ratio of men to women. Lots of choice for all the men there.
I've read many reports on this board and generally they describe the women as "average or below" or "5s and 6s" or similar ratings. Maybe it's just because I'm an old ugly fart but I thought the collection of ladies was excellent. True there were no 18 year olds or runway models but I was surrounded by dozens of hot girls/women in their 20s, 30s, and early 40s, all attractive and friendly in the way that Thai girls excel. I took a pair of them back to the JW Marriott and they both did everything I asked, kept smiling the whole time, and in no rush to leave. I'm sure I'll go back and extract a few more ladies from the Biergarten before I head for home.
And speaking of the JW, about 30 minutes after the girls left, my doorbell rang and one of the girls was standing there, turns out she had left a small handbag behind. She had been escorted up to my door by a JW security man, who stood by discreetly while she came in and retrieved the missing bag. So clearly a girl-friendly place!
Retiredforever,
When it comes to Bangkok versus Pattaya, we all have a preference.
I had my first trip to LOS in 1994, I'm now a veteran of 20+ trips, most trips are for around 3 weeks, I visited Pattaya in 1994 and out of the next 20 or so trips to LOS I've only been back to Pattaya on 3 occasions, I just hate the place, yet I've heard numerous others rave about it.
What is it I dislike so much about Pattaya? I think the overall standard of girls is lower in Pattaya, also on the few occasions I've been there I've thought that the standard of the average punter left a lot to be desired, don't get me wrong, I've seen the loud/overweight/over 40//balding yobos in Bangkok as well, just don't seem as prevelant in Bangkok.
The other thing is on my first 5 or 6 trips to Bkok I was very fortunate to be shown around by a friend of mine that was domiciled in Bkok, he was a private investigator, and new the city like the back of his hand.
In your post you mentioned nana and cowboy as basically your 2 choices, hell on most trips to bkok I stay in either suk 11 or 19 and I don't even venture into nana, I may poke my nose into cowboy once or twice during a 3 week stay, there are so many other places in bkok that leave nana and cowboy for dead.
I guess I'll always be a fan of bkok.
Good punting.So how bout sharing these places you speak of? Inquiring minds want to know.
Nice selection.
Sorry, can I ask if Hollywood is the same kind of setup as Penthouse?
He told me how he would buy a bunch of cheap knock off gold necklaces. Whenever he went to bed he would make point of placing on counter. Usually it and the girl were gone in the morning. He figured it was cheaper that way.
I'm not sure I'm following on this one. Are you saying he didn't pay the girl, just let her steal the fake jewelry instead? If so, are you sure this guy is still alive? I won't say more til you clarify, maybe I read that wrong.
heading to Hua Hin and staying at the Hyatt
Just a heads up to you, there is also a separate Hua Hin thread where you might find a lot more info about that place.
I'm not sure I'm following on this one. Are you saying he didn't pay the girl, just let her steal the fake jewelry instead? If so, are you sure this guy is still alive? I won't say more til you clarify, maybe I read that wrong.
Sounds like he left the fake gold as bait and the girl left without requesting payment, thinking she had stolen some gold.
It's a trick sure, but the girl left without giving him a chance to pay.
Yeah but it's a con game, which will be obvious to the girl as soon as she finds out the necklace is fake. Seems pretty stupid to me. According to the law of the streets, it's her turn next to send someone around to have a little 'talk' with him. And that's fair. He asked for it. If your interpretation's right (which was how I read it), it seems like a pretty seedy thing to do.
Yeah but it's a con game, which will be obvious to the girl as soon as she finds out the necklace is fake. Seems pretty stupid to me. According to the law of the streets, it's her turn next to send someone around to have a little 'talk' with him. And that's fair. He asked for it. If your interpretation's right (which was how I read it), it seems like a pretty seedy thing to do.
Well, if she was honest, she could wait until morning when he paid her and she wouldn't be stuck with the fake necklaces. IT is seedy on both of their parts.
If you cross a Thai, you are very likely to end up regretting it in a very spectacular way. They are masterfull and merciless at revenge.
You might end up in the sack with a drop-dead gorgeous 18 year old who infects you with HIV, Hep C and D, and God knows what else. Or in a bloody heap some where. Or worse.
I've been over 30 times in the last 22 years and for your own well being you should take my word on this. Don't mess around with the Thais or you will possibly end up being hurt very badly, one way or the other.
Be honest and play nice!
If you cross a Thai, you are very likely to end up regretting it in a very spectacular way. They are masterfull and merciless at revenge.
I've lived in Thailand for a couple of years all up, and in my opinion the gold necklace stunt is more likely to be viewed as 'instant karma' rather than something that needed retaliating against.
I'd be curious to hear what current residents think?
Hi all,
This is my first report ever and I am thankful to all in the forum who has been writing about the experiences.
Landed in BKK at 2030 Hrs.
Beware all nationals who needs a visa on arrival. You need to show USD 300/- for gettingthe visa. as a normal traeller, I carry my lots of plastic nd couple of USD 100/-. I had to run very hard from pillar to post to get the money out an ATM machine which of course is not there. Finally managed to get the money out of exchange centre located at the 4th floor of the Duty free shopping mall.
By the time it was 0300 Hrd - Tired to the core.
Then landed upon Livingstons.
Aircon, TV, Towels, spreads. Excellent.
The place is fantastic in all the ways.
Just like the descriptions in the forum.
Very coutreous staff.
Only thing I disliked was that in the internet lobby the girls keeps on playing games in the only monitor available - which I thought was unfair to the customers.
I strongly do recommend the place to all people.
Just fantastic and good for the money spent.
Cheers,
Shippie
Forget for a second about whether it's fair or not, just think about the risk. Even if what you say is true and it's 'likely' to be viewed as instant karma, and so no problem, if you did it enough times, you're going to eventually do it to someone who doesn't view it that way (unlikely but bound to happen sooner or later). And then its instant karma time for you, total damage depending on how nuts the girl is. Also, remember that any girl who's going to make off with the necklace is not top notch in character. It's just a matter of time til you do it to the wrong girl -- the one who's been fucked with one too many times, and just explodes.
Forget for a second about whether it's fair or not, just think about the risk. Even if what you say is true and it's 'likely' to be viewed as instant karma, and so no problem, if you did it enough times, you're going to eventually do it to someone who doesn't view it that way (unlikely but bound to happen sooner or later). And then its instant karma time for you, total damage depending on how nuts the girl is. Also, remember that any girl who's going to make off with the necklace is not top notch in character. It's just a matter of time til you do it to the wrong girl -- the one who's been fucked with one too many times, and just explodes.
Let me see if I have this right. A guy brings a Thai WG to his hotel room for sex in exchange for an agreed upon sum of money. He falls asleep and wakes up later to discover that she has stolen his cheap necklace and snuck off without asking for her money, apparently under the mistaken assumption that the property was gold worth much more than her fee. She’s a thief. He may have baited her with the junk but she certainly wasn’t forced or conned to take it.
And now some of you fellows think he took a huge risk and did something stupidly dangerous. WTF?? --- I think it was BRILLIANT! He got laid in a perfectly honest and above board fashion and she got exactly what she deserved in return. We’re all farangs, yes, but we’re not all suckers.
I recently had the bitter misfortune to be up at 10:00 AM in the Capital - a first for me. Yes, your dear Opebo has been forced to accept the humiliation of paid employment. Facing the necessity of an 11:00 AM meeting with some Thai 'colleagues', I thought to myself 'what will make this less awful'. The answer dawned redily in my fertile brain - smelling of the vaginal juices of an inexpensive prostitute!
I betook myself to Sookhumvit via taxicab (it is now officially too hot during the day to even consider any other mode - though carsickness is a drawback). There I found a few morning streetwalkers in the sois 5 to 7 region. The first two were tantamount to homeless ladies, so I passed. The third was rough but cute - 25ish with nipples poking out braless. We agreed to 500 baht for an anal short time, and went to that well travelled short time hotel near Eden. What a rip 300 baht for the room.
There she provided a BBBJ so bad it was almost like being back upcountry, followed by passable BBA facilitated by the monger's friend, KY. For some reason I wasn't that 'into it', however, and ended up banging her roughly and rapidly in the front passage, finally filling it with sperms et al. after a 30 minute boomboom. Then off to my meeting - Please sniff the distinctive farang-mixture of sweat and semen, respectable Thai persons!
Thailand and especially Bangkok are changing for the worse, and rapidly, there is no doubt; but one can still find a streetwalker at 10:00 AM for 500 baht on Soukhoumvit. Then again, you might be able to find one back home at that hour too, so that's not much of a distinction. Really the only advantage is the process took one hour here, while back home one has to drive around for hours - and while the girl is probably damn near as cheap, the gas most certainly is not.
There are other distinctions and advantages you are overlooking such as in Bangkok no one will care or give a second look at what you're doing regardless of the time of day. No undercover (media) reporter will ambush you to expose your actions in an attempt to make a name for himself. The other and most important advantage to me is the fact that some Cop will not pull you over and make try to make a criminal case out of a relatively innocuous transaction, put your picture in the papers or on TV like you just committed a major felony.
Rising prices are nothing compared to the relative ease, eclectic availability and harassment-free environment in which one can engage in mongering in BKK as compared to many other places where your life can be turned upside down by hypocritical oppressors.
Thailand and especially Bangkok are changing for the worse, and rapidly, there is no doubt; but one can still find a streetwalker at 10:00 AM for 500 baht on Soukhoumvit. Then again, you might be able to find one back home at that hour too, so that's not much of a distinction. Really the only advantage is the process took one hour here, while back home one has to drive around for hours - and while the girl is probably damn near as cheap, the gas most certainly is not.
Member #3409
06-09-07, 17:19
Let me see if I have this right. A guy brings a Thai WG to his hotel room for sex in exchange for an agreed upon sum of money. He falls asleep and wakes up later to discover that she has stolen his cheap necklace and snuck off without asking for her money, apparently under the mistaken assumption that the property was gold worth much more than her fee. She’s a thief. He may have baited her with the junk but she certainly wasn’t forced or conned to take it.
And now some of you fellows think he took a huge risk and did something stupidly dangerous. WTF?? --- I think it was BRILLIANT! He got laid in a perfectly honest and above board fashion and she got exactly what she deserved in return. We’re all farangs, yes, but we’re not all suckers.
Well summed up.... If she hadn't of stole it who is to say she wouldn't get paid the proper amount, for stealing she has got what she deserves.
There are only 3 ways to fuck a TG.
1. her pussy
2. her ass
3. her mouth
Any other way, is inviting trouble, not to mention the fact that leaving fake gold on the table is deceiving, and puts you on the same level as the girl who stole it.
“Brilliant”? I don’t think so. Dishonest? Absolutely.
Scenario. Punter picks up TG in a bar, or on the street, they go back to his hotel, have a nice romp. He “accidentally” leaves a nice fake gold chain on the dresser. He wakes up; the fake gold and the girl are gone.
Girl returns back to her room, where she proudly shows her boy friend her catch. He gives it a cursory look, throws it back at her, and yells at her, telling her it is fake. She is furious, and he beats her up for being so stupid.
TG and boy friend go back to the hotel, and wait outside. The boy friend has brought along a couple of friends. They pass the time drinking cheap Thai Whisky. Suddenly, punter appears, on his way out, to find another honey for the night. He turns the corner, and gets the shit kicked out of him, spends the remainder of his holiday at Bumrungrad, eating through a straw.
What a wonderful vacation.
Moral of the story: only fuck a TG 3 ways, and have a great time.
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There are only 3 ways to fuck a TG.
1. her pussy
2. her ass
3. her mouth
Any other way, is inviting trouble, not to mention the fact that leaving fake gold on the table is deceiving, and puts you on the same level as the girl who stole it.
“Brilliant”? I don’t think so. Dishonest? Absolutely.
Scenario. Punter picks up TG in a bar, or on the street, they go back to his hotel, have a nice romp. He “accidentally” leaves a nice fake gold chain on the dresser. He wakes up; the fake gold and the girl are gone.
Girl returns back to her room, where she proudly shows her boy friend her catch. He gives it a cursory look, throws it back at her, and yells at her, telling her it is fake. She is furious, and he beats her up for being so stupid.
TG and boy friend go back to the hotel, and wait outside. The boy friend has brought along a couple of friends. They pass the time drinking cheap Thai Whisky. Suddenly, punter appears, on his way out, to find another honey for the night. He turns the corner, and gets the shit kicked out of him, spends the remainder of his holiday at Bumrungrad, eating through a straw.
What a wonderful vacation.
Moral of the story: only fuck a TG 3 ways, and have a great time.
Interesting viewpoint, 1Ball, but there is a gaping flaw in your logic.
Since when is leaving your own fake gold necklase on a table in your own hotel room "deceiving"? He's not offered it to her. He's not told her that it's gold. He's just put it on his own table perhaps with the change in his pocket and other "valuable" items. That's deceiving? How? How is what he did "fucking her."
"Dishonest"??? You've got to be kidding me. Dishonest would be offering it to her as payment and telling her it is gold. If I leave my car parked at the curb with the keys in it, is that dishonest? If a thief then steals my car, is he the victim of my "dishonesty"? What kind of twisted logic is that?
Your story about a punter getting the shit kicked out of him is scary, but that kind of thing can happen for any number of reasons -- certainly not for leaving a necklace out on the table and falling to sleep though. If that is the case, then we're all in danger with these girls. Jeez, if you tell the twit you are a butterfly and now you want someone else, she could go to her boyfriend with her loss of face and you could get the shit kicked out of you. If she doesn't like you for any crazy reason, you could get the shit kicked out of you.
That B***h got what she deserved and 999,999 times out of a million she's not going to tell anyone about it, let alone her boyfriend, because she's too embarrassed to admit that she stole it in the first place. If she tries to retaliate, she could find herself in the Bangkok Hilton.
AsiaTraveler2
06-09-07, 21:27
Interesting viewpoint, 1Ball, but there is a gaping flaw in your logic.
Since when is leaving your own fake gold necklase on a table in your own hotel room "deceiving"? He's not offered it to her. He's not told her that it's gold. He's just put it on his own table perhaps with the change in his pocket and other "valuable" items. That's deceiving? How? How is what he did "fucking her."
Daddy07,
Just left the fake gold necklace on the table? He made it clear why he left the necklace. It was there as bait. When two people screw each other (the girl a thief and the guy the con man), someone get's hurt. Sometimes very badly. You fuck with people often enough, and somewhere down the line, it will come back to bite you. It's especially bad, when you are in their backyard. There's really nothing to debate here. Both of them are wrong for what they did. Two people fucking with each other, plain and simple.
I'm sorry, but I can't see being too proud, when in essence all you did was pull off a con. I would never do it.
AT2
Daddy07, you say she could end up in the Bangkok Hilton, and I say he could end up in Bumrungrad.
All this, due to 2 dishonest, unscrupulous people.
Maybe they both deserve it?
I follow the UAE thread, among others. it is the norm to pay in advance, and at least once a week, someone posts that he agreed to LT with a girl, paid the money in advance, only to find the girl getting dressed at 2.00 AM to go home. We lament the situation. In LOS, we pay after the deed is done, and many times, we pay after breakfast. We can do that if we are honest with our guest, and she is honest with us. There are of course, always a few bad apples, and the poster's friend, whom this discussion is about, is one of them.
Maybe he should just not tempt her, and pay her the agreed amount. Lets not forget that with this method of "payment", he doesn't get his morning session.
Either way, both are losers, in more ways than one. I would not want either of them as my friend.
PS. Any of you remember the movie "The Sting"?
Were Redford and Newman great? Of course.
Were they con men? Of course.
Were they in the wrong? Abso-fucking-lutely.
Would they have gone to jail, or would they have got the crap beaten out of them, had they been caught? Waddayathink?
Terry Terrier
06-10-07, 02:03
Where's the con by the punter? What about an irrepairable laptop? What about a broken top-of-the-range cellphone (I recently had a phone wrecked because a gal took my clothes to be laundered without checking my pockets! Should I have spent the remainder of my vacation cowering if it had been taken by a prostitute whom I had 'conned' by forgetting to hide it?)? Why did the fake gold have to be a set-up? Why couldn't it be presents for nieces/nephews back home? But the key point is that the girl(s) could've just ignored the 'gold' chain and got paid in the morning.
The suggestion that a thieving Thai prostitute who steals something which appears to be valuable from a hotel room will come back for revenge if it turns out not to be valuable is scaremongering and mythmaking of the worst sort.
NicFrenchy
06-10-07, 04:24
Let me see if I have this right. A guy brings a Thai WG to his hotel room for sex in exchange for an agreed upon sum of money. He falls asleep and wakes up later to discover that she has stolen his cheap necklace and snuck off without asking for her money, apparently under the mistaken assumption that the property was gold worth much more than her fee. She’s a thief. He may have baited her with the junk but she certainly wasn’t forced or conned to take it.
And now some of you fellows think he took a huge risk and did something stupidly dangerous. WTF?? --- I think it was BRILLIANT! He got laid in a perfectly honest and above board fashion and she got exactly what she deserved in return. We’re all farangs, yes, but we’re not all suckers.You hit the nail right on the head.
So now the man should be Affraid about the "Wrong" TG stealing from him? come on what are you? Pussies?
She stole and took off. Her Loss.
It seems like everyone arguing in favor of leaving the necklaces is saying about the same thing -- that it's not dishonest. That it's not deceptive. Examples are being given (what if you leave your car by the curb with the keys in it, etc.)
Fair enough. If the situation came to a point where it was being looked at objectively, for example in a courtroom, then the key question, the bottom line, what the whole thing boils down to, would be "what was his intent?"
If his intent was that it was an accident, he forgot to put them away, then there was no intent to do anything wrong -- then he's innocent. He's honest, then.
If his intent was to lure the girl into taking it as bait, then his intent was to deceive, and get out of paying the fee he agreed to.
We all know which one was his intent. His only intent in leaving the necklaces out was to hope she'd 'steal' them, and thus cheat the girl out of her fee. His only intent was to trick the girl. That's deception.
Since when is deception honest?
All con games have this element built into them -- the intial lure where the victim thinks they can come out way ahead if they just do this thing. It's standard confidence game M.O. By the logic expressed here in this thread, it would mean that all the Nigerian scams and shell games, real estate frauds, etc. are all perfectly fair just because the victim originally thought they were going to make out like a bandit, and agreed to do something they knew wasn't legit.
Now about scaremongering. I think if you scroll back through this thread, and in the Pattaya thread, you'll see that it's obviously not a myth. It happens, and the Thais are pretty nasty in an attack. It's not going to happen in your hotel, it'll happen when you go out on the street. You want to think it's a myth, then you go believe that, and good luck.
Pittsdaulga
06-10-07, 06:22
Day 3?
Well, most of my time was spent at Livingstones Lodge, however my new friend PIT decided to take myself and my newbie comrades out on a little adventure. We finished up yet another good Thai dinner, hoped in 2 cabs (due to my wheelchair) and over drove the couple blocks over to the famed Soi Cowboy. It was a smaller street than I had thought, but what a site. Almost immediately the woman smelled fresh meat and attempted to solicit me. Big Vig ran to the other side of the Soi to find PIT while my large companion waited with me and tried to keep the chicks away long enough for us to meet up. You have to understand, that I’m easy as hell and will take almost the first girl that shows interest in me. In addition, I have the letters ATM stamped on my head and my friend knows it. He’s more of a body guard than anything else. For the sake of this report, I’ll dub him BG. Clever, huh.
At any rate, we meet up with PIT & Big Vig and headed over to Long Gun to take in a show. We got there just in time to see the girls puffin’ on some cigarettes and blowing smoke. I’ve seen it before and it still makes me laugh. They then blow out candles and some other silly tricks. Mean while I sent my Guard/buddy to find some cash. He came back just in time to see the chicks pop balloons with blow-darts. That was impressive. During the last of the show we finished up our drink as my buddy told us of some "trouble" he encountered at the ATM. As he was trying to make a withdraw some guy was standing too close and kept asking him something in Thai. Most likely the little guy was asking for change. However, he was leaning too close for my friend’s comfort as he entered the PIN. BG told him in an ineffectual manner to F-Off (he’s not one for subtlety). It finally end in a one finger poke to the guys sternum to move him on. If you saw BG’s arms, a one finger poke to someone 5’6" is pretty powerful. The guy stammered back a couple feet off balanced he said and was off. At a latter time I warned BG that type of action could have resulted very poor for him despite his size and strength. From what I understand and heard Thais’ operate on a different level and really don’t believe in the "mono y mono" fights. Please, correct me if I’m wrong.
Once the show was over and BG completed his story we ventured down to Cowboy 2 (I think). We were ushered in quickly and I was given a front row seat at the stage. A perfect view for myself. Normally, I’ve got a great view of the girls as I sit about 3’6" and can see everything. At the stage I’m looking straight to the moon and stars. I think PIT was a bit jealous;.). As we sat there PIT was showing me the ropes and noticed me eyeing this one girl. He asked if I liked her and upon my affirmation, he waived her over. She looked really nice. I saw another good looker as well and PIT called her over too. As we talked, she and I, she suggested that I take her friend out too. I looked at PIT with wide eyes and he said go for it man. We grabbed Mama-san and said we’d BF the two girls. PIT negotiated for me, $2500 each LT. At the last minute the 2nd girl bowed out and a replacement was brought in. That was fine by me as I’d rather have someone that accepts me and is willing to have fun. As we were negotiating, BG found a nice girl himself and the four of us were off to get back to the hotel. Big Vig and PIT stayed to look around some more. BTW, PIT thanks again for the loan. Note, if you have a Master Card/Cirrus card, find an ATM before you hit up Soi Cowboy. BG couldn’t find one that took my card.
We pilled into the cab and went back to the lodge. I think BG took Big Vig’s room and I took my girls back to mine. I for the life of me can’t remember there names. There was the older one and then the younger one with a big rack. As soon as we got to the room, they wanted to eat. Room service was over so I sent the young one out to get food while the older chick washed me up. I think in hindsight Eden might be better for 2 girl action as all they did was take shifts. Older than younger then I hit the older one again. I was pretty tired and not too thrilled with the younger girl’s performance so I opted to let them go upon there request/nagging. I just wanted to sleep at that point.
Pitts
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
It seems like everyone arguing in favor of leaving the necklaces is saying about the same thing -- that it's not dishonest.
There's a third, compromise option: it's not really deceptive or we can suspend judgment about whether it's deceptive. What matters is that it might be perceived as deceptive (note: no normative claim here!). That might [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off and that can have bad consequences. So, be careful.
In response, Daddy07, says that's being too careful – the probability of something bad happening is just not high enough for it to be worth taking into consideration. I don't know…
Freeman 418
06-10-07, 11:07
Agreed with Daddy et. al. on this one. It was brilliant.
Wendella, even if a Thai hooker stole used toilet paper or a used condom out of my room, it's still theft in the eyes of the law, whatever country you happen to be in.
And then to live in fear of having trouble because the quality of your stolen goods wasn't up to scratch?! ROFL.. please.. I've got get up from the floor..
And by the way, if it was that easy to beat up and rob tourist farangs, don't you think the crime rate would be a tad higher than it is in Thailand??
Well summed up.... If she hadn't of stole it who is to say she wouldn't get paid the proper amount, for stealing she has got what she deserves.
He told me how he would buy a bunch of cheap knock off gold necklaces. Whenever he went to bed he would make point of placing on counter. Usually it and the girl were gone in the morning. He figured it was cheaper that way. What could she do.come back and complain that she stole a cheap necklace.
this is the comment which started all this.
wendella, you must be a lawyer. ;)
You talk about intent, and I think this is the key here. The intent was to deceive the girl. She is just as dishonest as he is. He placed a cheap piece of fake gold in plain view, in the hope she would get up, and take it and run. "HE figured it was cheaper that way". Deceptive and dishonest, on the part of the punter. We are not debating whether or not the girl is a thief, that is established. Some here think the guy did nothing wrong. I disagree. He lured her into thinking she was getting the best of him, when in fact, he was cheating her.
Does he have to live in fear of getting beaten up? No. Will he get beaten up? Maybe. Would I feel sorry if he did get beaten up? Not at all.
And for those who think it won't happen to them if they pull this trick, just read reports in the Pattaya thread, as mentionned by Wendella.
Again, only an unsavory character would pull this kind of stunt. Remember, you reap what you sow.
Terry Terrier
06-10-07, 13:04
Now about scaremongering. I think if you scroll back through this thread, and in the Pattaya thread, you'll see that it's obviously not a myth. It happens
Can you please point me in the direction of these reports describing Thai prostitutes returning poor value stolen goods with a vengeance?
Why complicate things with fake jewellery? I find it much easier to leave a fake US$100 bill on the floor (oops, it must have fallen from my wallet). That way, if the WG steals it, she gets arrested and jailed when trying to use it, and doesn't have the chance to get revenge on me. By the time she's released, I'm smiling in my sleep on my flight all the way home.
Wendella, even if a Thai hooker stole used toilet paper or a used condom out of my room, it's still theft in the eyes of the law, whatever country you happen to be in… And by the way, if it was that easy to beat up and rob tourist farangs, don't you think the crime rate would be a tad higher than it is in Thailand??
The Law is such an elusive concept in Thailand.
In fact, there are many different and independent bodies of law in LOS, depending on whether you are rich or poor, HiSO, MidSo, Thai-Chinese, Indian, Farang, etc. There is a specific segment of law for the sole purpose of dealing with a recently ousted prime minister and his family.
I had the dubious privilege of visiting a large Thai police office and I saw the many guys they had arrested during a single slow evening in Thonglor, and how the policemen dealt with them. Not nice at all. And that was just the entry point into the legal system.
You really do not want to have anything to do with the Thai legal system. Fortunately that is true too for the regular Thai nationals we encounter in the pursuit of our hobby though, and that tends to safeguard our interests to a certain extent. But there are local thugs who believe they have rigged the system so that they can pretty much do anything they want and get away with it. Those are dangerous, because they act first and think after. Farangs get killed quite often; any embassy official can tell you that.
We are relatively unwelcome guests in Thailand. We need to keep that in mind at all times. We have very few rights, and very little to expect from LE. The men in brown are not there to protect us.
Why complicate things with fake jewellery? I find it much easier to leave a fake US$100 bill on the floor (oops, it must have fallen from my wallet). That way, if the WG steals it, she gets arrested and jailed when trying to use it, and doesn't have the chance to get revenge on me. By the time she's released, I'm smiling in my sleep on my flight all the way home.
That is a devilishly ingenious idea, Piper. In a word … BRILLIANT!!! (Even if meant in jest) There is nothing dishonest or deceptive about it whatsoever. You get laid and a thief gets justice. I like it. Remember guys – not all tricks involve deception or dishonesty. Here the intent was to catch a thief. She got exactly what she wanted and so did he. He makes no promises or assurances. He merely relies upon her greed and criminal character to pull it off. Had she not committed the crime, she would have received her promised fee.
Justice is rare, but when measured sweet.
Daddy
PS -- It's probably not a good idea to be walking around in LOS with fake $100 bills in your pocket though, as some cops might get the wrong idea if they are found on, or can be traced back to, you. Maybe the fake necklace approach is better after all. :)
Seems to me that the united cheap Charly fraction of the members here is pretty enlightened and proud about the rip off if I just generalize. All the members usually fighting for the low budget entertainment show up and smile.
Sorry, but I am more on the 1ball site in this case.
Yes the girl took the chance. Wonder if this would happen primarily to the low cost (and low brain) girls with their low cost (and low brain) customers. A girl with some thoughts may notice the trap (‘never saw a farang that is so stupid to put valuables in sight’.) so I am sure it primarily happens in the low budget area.
Not my style at all. I am an honest player and will not cheat the girl. My LT range is primarily between 2000 and up to 3000 baht LT. Probably my average was 500 baht above the low budget players, but it resulted in always good to outstanding performance, much more GFE then I can read here with just a bit attention to the girls beside honest play. Money and time I spend freely and I am sure I gain the overall better result. (Do have a nice good shaped wife and not a dragon at home, so some minimum standards apply). Never had any bad result so far, so not any baht in my mongering investment was a bad investment. I have yet to have a bad experience.
Shame at you poor punters.
Regards
Brain666
Seems to me that the united cheap Charly fraction of the members here is pretty enlightened and proud about the rip off if I just generalize. All the members usually fighting for the low budget entertainment show up and smile.
Sorry, but I am more on the 1ball site in this case.
Yes the girl took the chance. Wonder if this would happen primarily to the low cost (and low brain) girls with their low cost (and low brain) customers. A girl with some thoughts may notice the trap (‘never saw a farang that is so stupid to put valuables in sight’.) so I am sure it primarily happens in the low budget area.
Not my style at all. I am an honest player and will not cheat the girl. My LT range is primarily between 2000 and up to 3000 baht LT. Probably my average was 500 baht above the low budget players, but it resulted in always good to outstanding performance, much more GFE then I can read here with just a bit attention to the girls beside honest play. Money and time I spend freely and I am sure I gain the overall better result. (Do have a nice good shaped wife and not a dragon at home, so some minimum standards apply). Never had any bad result so far, so not any baht in my mongering investment was a bad investment. I have yet to have a bad experience.
Shame at you poor punters.
Regards
Brain666OK, so you agree with 1Ball on this issue. That’s understood and respected, but must you now resort to ad hominem attacks as the sole support your position? At least 1Ball offered the possibility that a punter might get beaten up for his stunt. What do you offer except your claim that those of us who don’t agree with you are “cheaters, cheep (sic) charlies,” and otherwise “low budget,” “low brain,” “dishonest” customers? “Shame on you poor punters,” you say. Is that really necessary in this discussion? Do you have any actual reasons to support your opinion?
I can only speak for myself, but such crafty ploys are not part of my style either, although I can readily appreciate the cunning genius of it and compliment the punter on his intelligence. I seek only top quality girls, who offer genuine GFE, mostly go-go dancers, and pay in the range of 1000b ST and 2000b LT for their services. I’m always straight up with them. I’ve never cheated another person in my life, and therefore resent the derogatory implications in your remarks. The punter in the story was not a cheater either.
You call yourself an “honest player” who “will not cheat the girl.” I’m sure that is true, sir, yet if I were the mean spirited ad hominem type, I might imply that you contradicted yourself when you talked about your p 4 p girls then bragged about your wife. Does she know what you are doing in LOS?
Regards,
Daddy
Fish N Chips
06-10-07, 19:16
Poor Brain666 has more issues then how others are not following his irresponsible economic policy. Its loon-icy, what he is preaching.
First of all these TGs are making a salary far superior to what a college grad makes in the states. What he fails to comprehend is the differences between a 1st world economy and a 3rd world economy. This naive approach is exactly what the TGs zero in on and are extremely savvy when fleecing a Farang, like good old Brian.
Gentlemen Brian has pulled the wool over his own eyes, and I'm quite sure has the same issues with his wife. PLEASE take a grain of salt with every word you read in his reports.
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not attacking you personally. I just don't think you have been introduced to the other side of the fence. That is the Thai side of the fence, your still stuck in the tourist mode.
To say it a different way: your going all the way to Disney Land for a horse back ride when you could just as easily walk around the corner and ask the farmer if you can take a ride. Same horse but your paying Disney $80 & were paying the farmer $8.
Try not to read to much in to the example, I'm just saying YOUR A NUMB NUTS and your not looking out for your fellow monger. GOOF balls like you should be banned from posting!
Sorry didn't read 1ball's report, but your price of 3k is far too much. I don't care how hot she is!
Seems to me that the united cheap Charly fraction of the members here is pretty enlightened and proud about the rip off if I just generalize. All the members usually fighting for the low budget entertainment show up and smile.
Sorry, but I am more on the 1ball site in this case.
Yes the girl took the chance. Wonder if this would happen primarily to the low cost (and low brain) girls with their low cost (and low brain) customers. A girl with some thoughts may notice the trap (‘never saw a farang that is so stupid to put valuables in sight’.) so I am sure it primarily happens in the low budget area.
Not my style at all. I am an honest player and will not cheat the girl. My LT range is primarily between 2000 and up to 3000 baht LT. Probably my average was 500 baht above the low budget players, but it resulted in always good to outstanding performance, much more GFE then I can read here with just a bit attention to the girls beside honest play. Money and time I spend freely and I am sure I gain the overall better result. (Do have a nice good shaped wife and not a dragon at home, so some minimum standards apply). Never had any bad result so far, so not any baht in my mongering investment was a bad investment. I have yet to have a bad experience.
Shame at you poor punters.
Regards
Brain666
AsiaTraveler2
06-10-07, 19:53
Try not to read to much in to the example, I'm just saying YOUR A NUMB NUTS and your not looking out for your fellow monger. GOOF balls like you should be banned from posting!
Sorry didn't read 1ball's report, but your price of 3k is far too much. I don't care how hot she is!!!
Fish,
I'm sorry, but this "looking out for your fellow monger" shit is just dumb when it comes to who, what, where, and how much you spend. There are millions of guys going through LOS. Do you really think anyone of them for a moment is thinking about anyone else but themselves when they are picking up a girl? Each hobbyist will pay what they can afford or are willing to pay. That's the bottom line. Look, I'm more than happy to assist the next guy, answering questions, buy him a beer, share some thoughts, share a cab ride, etc. Just don't ask me to determine what I do, who I see or what I spend, based on the next guys opinions.
It's an auction! Each girl has their own floor price in mind. Each bidder has their own ceiling. $3k may mean alot to you and almost nothing to someone else. Bidding will vary accordingly. Very simple. The good news is, the girl you passed on asking for $3k is not one of your choices, so it has zero impact on you. It only affects those willing to pay $3k, and then it becomes first come first served.
I hate to break this news, but the pricing structure is far more complicated than you make it out to be. There's basic inflation, the exchange rates, the Thai economy, the economy of the punter's homeland, increased demand from other Asian countries who once played primarily at home, etc. etc. etc. Asking the members of this board, to stop spending $3k is like throwing a pebble in the ocean and expecting a Tsunami. And please don't mention the Butterfly effect .. not buying it on this one! LOL!
By your logic, someone could spend $5,000 to $6,000, buying a first class air ticket, stay in a 5 star hotel, but pass on all the hot girls asking 3k baht, simply because of it's affect on other punters. They end up with their 3rd, 4th, maybe even last choice, because of how it might affect you? Yeah ... riiiiiiight!
This ongoing debate, which started from a comment about a fake gold necklace, is just about choices in life. Each have their own opinions and I don't think debating will change much. We are who we are. All of this stuff, the games, over/under paying, etc. have gone on for decades. Nothing really has changed much. Let's move on.
AT2
Seems to me that the united cheap Charly fraction of the members here is pretty enlightened and proud about the rip off if I just generalize. All the members usually fighting for the low budget entertainment show up and smile.
Sorry, but I am more on the 1ball site in this case.
Yes the girl took the chance. Wonder if this would happen primarily to the low cost (and low brain) girls with their low cost (and low brain) customers. A girl with some thoughts may notice the trap (‘never saw a farang that is so stupid to put valuables in sight’.) so I am sure it primarily happens in the low budget area.
Not my style at all. I am an honest player and will not cheat the girl. My LT range is primarily between 2000 and up to 3000 baht LT. Probably my average was 500 baht above the low budget players, but it resulted in always good to outstanding performance, much more GFE then I can read here with just a bit attention to the girls beside honest play. Money and time I spend freely and I am sure I gain the overall better result. (Do have a nice good shaped wife and not a dragon at home, so some minimum standards apply). Never had any bad result so far, so not any baht in my mongering investment was a bad investment. I have yet to have a bad experience.
Shame at you poor punters.
Regards
Brain666
I don't know who in their right mind would give close to a hundred bucks for Thai Booty. It ain't about rich or poor, it is about being exploited by the greediest clan on earth. Much better to exploit them than vice versa. In 2000 you could count the Americans you met on one hand in Pattaya when a st was 500 and an LT was 1000 (TOPS!) w/40bht to a dollar, and now they are all over the place inflating the prices, just like they've done in Rio. No attempts to haggle, whatsoever. You can get an FOB (fresh off boat/boarder) Asian or Central American girl in her 20's in the NYC area, with the right connections that will come to your place and give you that GFE stuff that everybody at ISG keeps talking for $100, a nice eat-in dinner and the opportunity to surf a big screen HD-TV w/internet access with all kinds of play in between. I see two extremes in the postings: If it ain't some Aussie boasting about all the legendary free booty he gets over there it is a gringo boasting about how high a price he pays because he is either a classy dude or a rich one.
AsiaTraveler2
06-10-07, 20:35
I don't know who in their right mind would give close to a hundred bucks for Thai Booty. It ain't about rich or poor, it is about being exploited by the greediest clan on earth. Much better to exploit them than vice versa. In 2000 you could count the Americans you met on one hand in Pattaya when a st was 500 and an LT was 1000 (TOPS!) w/40bht to a dollar, and now they are all over the place inflating the prices, just like they've done in Rio. No attempts to haggle, whatsoever. You can get an FOB (fresh off boat/boarder) Asian or Central American girl in her 20's in the NYC area, with the right connections that will come to your place and give you that GFE stuff that everybody at ISG keeps talking for $100, a nice eat-in dinner and the opportunity to surf a big screen HD-TV w/internet access with all kinds of play in between. I see two extremes in the postings: If it ain't some Aussie boasting about all the legendary free booty he gets over there it is a gringo boasting about how high a price he pays because he is either a classy dude or a rich one.
Bule,
So I guess that means you are never leaving NYC again, for action? LOL! You mentioned the boasting Aussie, the Rich/Classy Gringo, but you failed to mention the biggest group of all. The whinning, "stop over paying", faction that somehow thinks they know it all. I would not call them cheap charlies, it's something else driving them to speak out. I would say it's anger or disatisfaction with life? LOL! Look, don't take that seriously. Just a friendly jab at those guys, and they know who they are! LOL!
Bule, you must have your reasons for speaking out. I just don't think some of the comments come across very well. Many guys pay $200 to $300 for Caucasian woman in the states. Is that ok? Are caucasian woman twice or three times as good as Asian woman? Or are the punters 2-3 times as stupid? There's a lot of ways this can go. None of them good.
By the way, no offense to Aussie's or Rich/Classy Gringo's. Just using his words. By the way, stereotyping just irritates me.
AT2
Pittsdaulga
06-10-07, 22:00
Not sure if this posted correctly, so I apologize if there was a delay.
Well, most of my time was spent at Livingstones Lodge, however My new friend PIT decided to take myself and my newbie comrades out on a little adventure. We finished up yet another good Thai dinner, hoped in 2 cabs (due to my wheelchair) and over drove the couple blocks over to the famed Soi Cowboy. It was a smaller street than I had thought, but what a site. Almost immediately the woman smelled fresh meat and attempted to solicit me. Big Vig ran to the other side of the Soi to find PIT while my large companion waited with me and tried to keep the chicks away long enough for us to meet up. You have to understand, that I’m easy as hell and will take almost the first girl that shows interest in me. In addition, I have the letters ATM stamped on my head and my friend knows it. He’s more of a body guard than anything else. For the sake of this report, I’ll dub him BG. Clever, huh.
At any rate, we meet up with PIT & Big Vig and headed over to Long Gun to take in a show. We got there just in time to see the girls puffin’ on some cigarettes and blowing smoke. I’ve seen it before and it still makes me laugh. They then blow out candles and some other silly tricks. Mean while I sent my Guard/buddy to find some cash. He came back just in time to see the chicks pop balloons with blow-darts. That was impressive. During the last of the show we finished up our drink as my buddy told us of some "trouble" he encountered at the ATM. As he was trying to make a withdraw some guy was standing too close and kept asking him something in Thai. Most likely the little guy was asking for change. However, he was leaning too close for my friend’s comfort as he entered the PIN. BG told him in an ineffectual manner to F-Off (he’s not one for subtlety). It finally end in a one finger poke to the guys sternum to move him on. If you saw BG’s arms, a one finger poke to someone 5’6" is pretty powerful. The guy stammered back a couple feet off balanced he said and was off. At a latter time I warned BG that type of action could have resulted very poor for him despite his size and strength. From what I understand and heard Thais’ operate on a different level and really don’t believe in the "mono y mono" fights. Please, correct me if I’m wrong.
Once the show was over and BG completed his story we ventured down to Cowboy 2 (I think). We were ushered in quickly and I was given a front row seat at the stage. A perfect view for myself. Normally, I’ve got a great view of the girls as I sit about 3’6" and can see everything. At the stage I’m looking straight to the moon and stars. I think PIT was a bit jealous? . As we sat there PIT was showing me the ropes and noticed me eyeing this one girl. He asked if I liked her and upon my affirmation, he waived her over. She looked really nice. I saw another good looker as well and PIT called her over too. As we talked, she and I, she suggested that I take her friend out too. I looked at PIT with wide eyes and he said go for it man. We grabbed Mama-san and said we’d BF the two girls. PIT negotiated for me, $2500 each LT. At the last minute the 2nd girl bowed out and a replacement was brought in. That was fine by me as I’d rather have someone that accepts me and is willing to have fun. As we were negotiating, BG found a nice girl himself and the four of us were off to get back to the hotel. Big Vig and PIT stayed to look around some more. BTW, PIT thanks again for the loan. Note, if you have a Master Card/Cirrus card, find an ATM before you hit up Soi Cowboy. BG couldn’t find one that took my card.
We pilled into the cab and went back to the lodge. I think BG took Big Vig’s room and I took my girls back to mine. I for the life of me can’t remember there names. There was the older one and then the younger one with a big rack. As soon as we got to the room, they wanted to eat. Room service was over so I sent the young one out to get food while the older chick washed me up. I think in hindsight Eden might be better for 2 girl action as all they did was take shifts. Older than younger then I hit the older one again. I was pretty tired and not too thrilled with the younger girl’s performance so I opted to let them go upon there request/nagging. I just wanted to sleep at that point.
Pitts
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bule,
so i guess that means you are never leaving nyc again, for action? lol! you mentioned the boasting aussie, the rich/classy gringo, but you failed to mention the biggest group of all. the whinning, "stop over paying", faction that somehow thinks they know it all. i would not call them cheap charlies, it's something else driving them to speak out. i would say it's anger or disatisfaction with life? lol! look, don't take that seriously. just a friendly jab at those guys, and they know who they are! lol!
bule, you must have your reasons for speaking out. i just don't think some of the comments come across very well. many guys pay $200 to $300 for caucasian woman in the states. is that ok? are caucasian woman twice or three times as good as asian woman? or are the punters 2-3 times as stupid? there's a lot of ways this can go. none of them good.
by the way, no offense to aussie's or rich/classy gringo's. just using his words. by the way, stereotyping just irritates me.
at2
i ain't talking down to anybody, i am just giving "fatherly bootyhound" advice. i didn't have any sons. isg and my very small handful of friends that go with me on trips are the only people that know about my overseas antics, so i feel a sort of responsibility to this "secret society" of sorts.
being a senior citizen, i have been around much longer than your average isg poster and i want to steer everybody right. a shrink woman i know tells me that many of her male patients have many problems generated by watching too much porn when they were younger. we live in a sick society (us, especially) where there is all this sex on tv and ads, but there is a lot less play going around than back in the 70's and 80's. the 40 y/o virgin scraped that surface. i have some very pretty girls that work for me, but never saw the guys hooking up with them. i'd take the guys out for beers and kind of hint around about the girls in the office and they finally told me none were gay but they just don't bother with the young women working in their next cubicle because she might have three im sessions going at once with men offering up the best evening. this told me that the young lady's gash is her commodity in a seller's market. i wanted so bad to tell these guys about brasil and thailand but i could not. in fact, my insurance company made me exclude the netherlands and thailand as destinations for my free trip award (3 per year) i give to my employees. look at these half assed tv shows like sekz in the sity. that kimchee breathed geek that shot up that campus in va was a perfect example. inspired by the columbine crew he was just another dude that probably never kissed and definately never boinked a girl.
i might be bringing my own booty from home (like in the 70s) because i can do her unbagged, the place is accepted more by western women now, i still love the massages, food and all, i like to have somebody to talk to other than many of the the sh^* simple folk that come from and travel to the land of stooges. bkk is a nice staging point for going to places with nice beaches and lower prices (bali, puerta princesa, angor wat, java, sumatra, koh phangan full moom party). the well heeled western woman will gladly pay her way, and where i live there are some slim ones still in their 50's. 5 years ago if you took a gringa to the walking street in pattatya she'd be spitting at you. now the place is respectable. a soldier risking his life can't even buy beer/drink back home and places with bar fines are off limits. a soldier that knowingly participates in prosititution can be court martialed. how screwed up is that?
you'd think that china had to be worse with where the 25 year 1 child policy had many of the chinese families aborting their baby girls and now 2 for every 1 emigre is female. the people's liberation army is full of horny dudes with attitude no doubt but while the thai massage parlor service has dimished, in shanghai (see isg posts) bung licking is right there on the menu
AsiaTraveler2
06-10-07, 23:27
I ain't talking down to anybody, I am just giving "fatherly bootyhound" advice. I didn't have any sons. ISG and my very small handful of friends that go with me on trips are the only people that know about my overseas antics, so I feel a sort of responsibility to this "secret society" of sorts.
Bule,
Nice post. I know you had your reasons. I guess everyone rants from time to time, to blow off steam. I know I have.
Just got into town, and still having trouble sleeping. Takes a day or two. This week, it's sneaking in some woman in between some business commitments and next week it's all fun and games.
Peace,
AT2
Hi,
Anyone have a review on a night spot call "Spice" at the Ambasador hotel.
Is it worth going? Best time to go?
Thanks
TC.
Pahllus Maximus
06-11-07, 05:24
This is great - just what we need and why P4P exists. For a Thai girl, the controls would be:-
"No buy lady cola"
"You make lady horny, we go to hotel"
"BBBJTCIM"
"Go to bar and get more hotties for threesome/foursome"
God I love Asia !
Pahllus Maximus
06-11-07, 05:31
Massage in the first class longe - prolly with a happy ending - can anyone confirm ?
Sadly I am coming in from the States - I now have organized my chauffer to pick me up, but also pretty Ping to blow me on the drive in (I get in at 1am), and to bring ice and some Chivas 12 y.o, then a nice long massage. Land of Smiles is called that for a good reason :-)
SidTheSexist
06-11-07, 06:50
Can you please point me in the direction of these reports describing Thai prostitutes returning poor value stolen goods with a vengeance?Never mind the TGs returning with vengeance, If i ever bump the b***h who dipped my brand new nokia and 3500bht out my pocket, it will certainly be a different tale to tell!
The debate is about intent, yes, making this guy wrong. But spare a thought for the guys out there whose only intention was to pay the girl fairly yet were still cheated.
I dont condone the cheap necklace trick, but it really made me smile when I read about it. The point being, that the sneaky fucking thief got what she deserved.
Sid
AsiaTraveler2
06-11-07, 07:11
Hi,
Anyone have a review on a night spot call "Spice" at the Ambasador hotel.
Is it worth going? Best time to go?
Thanks
TC.
Tom,
I stayed at the Ambassador a few years ago. Average hotel with a decent location. I passed by the night club that they have and it's very small. Not sure if this is the night spot that you are referring to. The only people in the club, were a handful of guests and a couple of guys with their Thai sweethearts for the night.
I can't imagine much has changed, so I would say that it's probably not worth going to. Like I said, that was a few years ago, so someone else might want to chime in. I'm in LOS right now, but I have no plans on going there, so I won't be able to give a FR.
The best action is always where the guys and the money are. There's nothing about the Ambassador to suggest that a club there would have the kind of fun you are looking for.
AT2
Redfield10
06-11-07, 07:14
This is great - just what we need and why P4P exists. For a Thai girl, the controls would be:-
"No buy lady cola"
"You make lady horny, we go to hotel"
"BBBJTCIM"
"Go to bar and get more hotties for threesome/foursome"
God I love Asia !Don't forget:
1. "How long you stay Thailand?"
2. "Where you stay?"
AsiaTraveler2
06-11-07, 07:18
But spare a thought for the guys out there whose only intention was to pay the girl fairly yet were still cheated.
I dont condone the cheap necklace trick, but it really made me smile when I read about it. The point being, that the sneaky fucking thief got what she deserved.
Sid
Sid,
Like Chris Rock says, I don't condone it, but I think I understand. LOL!
AT2
Hi,
Anyone have a review on a night spot call "Spice" at the Ambasador hotel.
Is it worth going? Best time to go?
Thanks
TC.
I was there last week with some friends. It costs 200 baht which includes one drink. It is open late but I think it is best if you go with friends because it is not really a pickup joint. It is dark and everyone seems to hang out with their own group.
Visited the NEP twice last week, had a great time. I wandered in and out of several bars, each and every one had a lot of cute girls dancing, friendly wait staff, helpful mamasans, and cheap drinks. It's easy to make eye contact with the dancing girl that catches your fancy, just flash her a big smile and she'll come and join you when her dance shift is over. Buy her a lady drink and she'll sit and chat, and allow a little friendly groping. Eventually she'll ask to be barfined, or mamsan will wander by and try to close the deal.
One thing I noticed, just as a baseball team has a manager and several coaches, some of these bars have a manager (mamasan) and several coaches (experienced bar girls). The coaches will wander around the room and 'coach' the shy/inexperienced bar girls by giving them tips ("hey rookie, put your hand on his crotch! ") and encouragement ("he likes you, give him a little kiss! "). The coaches will also ask the customer if they are happy with their girl, and if not, in comes a relief pitcher!
My best experience was in Angelwitch, really fun atmosphere, fun girls, and I barfined a cute, busty Cambodian girl named Beah. She was very eager to please and took great care of me.
Carnival was also fun, they have a revolving stage that looks like a Merry-Go-Round and a mechanical bull. The staff worked hard to keep the customers happy.
Last but not least was Mandarin, where instead of a large single stage they have 7 mini-stages, each one holds 2 girls. When you first go in you choose the girl you like and she'll climb up on your mini-stage and give you your own personal go-go dance. If there's any chemistry just invite her down to join you for some chatting and groping. The guy next to me had three girls dancing for him, he was pulling down their tops and bottoms, lots of kissing and touching and laughing, they were all having a blast!
Bottom line: go to NEP, you'll have a blast!
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I actually went there with two girls I met at Nana. They said it was ok if I mingled. I did. And met two more. One of the first group decided she wanted to go home with me. Then got mad, because one from the second group asked for my number. It was wild. The first girl stormed off in a cab. The second one I fucked multiple times, when I left to go to the airport two days later, she came with. So you can meet folks there. Oh and no p4p. I just love Thailand.
AsiaTraveler2
06-11-07, 14:13
I actually went there with two girls I met at Nana. They said it was ok if I mingled. I did. And met two more. One of the first group decided she wanted to go home with me. Then got mad, because one from the second group asked for my number. It was wild. The first girl stormed off in a cab. The second one I fucked multiple times, when I left to go to the airport two days later, she came with. So you can meet folks there. Oh and no p4p. I just love Thailand.
Interesting. Is the club located at the back left corner of the hotel or is this something new (2nd floor or some new extension)? You are referring to the Ambassador on Soi 11?
AT2
Jimmy Red Cab
06-11-07, 15:01
Interesting. Is the club located at the back left corner of the hotel or is this something new (2nd floor or some new extension)? You are referring to the Ambassador on Soi 11?
AT2
The Spice Club is quite new, the entrance is via the parking lot of the Ambassador on Soi 11.
200 baht entrance gets you a "free drink", I did not like it personally, music far too loud and very dark, picking up a girl would be possible if you could see her and hear her.
The other thing I found annoying is the waiters shining a torch at my beer every three minutes ----you do not get that problem at CM2.
Can you please point me in the direction of these reports describing Thai prostitutes returning poor value stolen goods with a vengeance?
Cute. If you really thought that's what I meant, you were probably the only one here who did. But then again, you didn't, did you.
Attacks on foreigners, that's what I was talking about, just in case there's any confusion, which I doubt there is. I was looking for the posts I'd read -- one in particular was a guy's account of getting jumped outside Thermae by guys who'd just been hired by a furious bargirl to beat up not him but his friend. (he suspects the thugs mistook him for his friend) He described being totally overwhelmed in numbers, them with sticks and bars, leaving him in a bloody unconscious heap to be taken by taxi to the hospital, where he woke up later and got to spend a few days. This particular story might be on another Thailand mongering forum, not this one. Guess I can't link to it from here acc to forum rules. Maybe a PM would be allowed if Jackson approves of that.
There's a big competing board to this one that has whole threads just on this subject. Attacks with iron bars and knives (stabbings in the face and head, no less), and worse, you can imagine -- but I think in this kind of situation, they'd probably just try to beat the shit out of the guy and send him to the hospital. The girl would pay some street toughs to do it. I'm sure most girls wouldn't do this, I think I already did mention that, but it's that eventual unbalanced one you'd have to worry about.
But seriously, you guys think you're immune to getting attacked in Thailand? Because you're larger than Thais? The scary part is how you seem to be giggling as you ridicule me for pointing this out.
The last girl I went with, I paid her $7 too much by accident and she counted it, then handed it back to me. Then I tried to give her a tip and she didn't want to take it. In 7 yrs, I've only had one cheap backup mobile phone stolen by a girl who was very obviously no good (a clear mistake I should have ditched). It makes me wonder what kind of girls this guy goes after.
AsiaTraveler2
06-11-07, 19:19
The Spice Club is quite new, the entrance is via the parking lot of the Ambassador on Soi 11.
200 baht entrance gets you a "free drink", I did not like it personally, music far too loud and very dark, picking up a girl would be possible if you could see her and hear her.
The other thing I found annoying is the waiters shining a torch at my beer every three minutes ----you do not get that problem at CM2.
Jimmy,
Thanks. Sounds like there are far better options around town. Always good to hear about new things, though.
Peace,
AT2
Bro, you should try poseidon ... I've been to NEP and Poseidon has been QC girls and attitude.. price range 2,200baht - 2,500baht normal glass room girls ... 2,900baht - 5,000baht .. part time models, university girls and local thai porn actress ...
Visited the NEP twice last week, had a great time.
Bottom line: go to NEP, you'll have a blast!
SidTheSexist
06-12-07, 04:06
Bro, you should try poseidon ... I've been to NEP and Poseidon has been QC girls and attitude.. price range 2,200baht - 2,500baht normal glass room girls ... 2,900baht - 5,000baht .. part time models, university girls and local thai porn actress ...What has NEP got in common with a mid-high end Massage parlour?
I'm on Day 5 of my first-ever visit to Bangkok, and finally got around to visiting Soi Cowboy on Monday night. Visited four bars and had a fantastic time in each and every one. I started my evening in.
Shark Bar (8pm)
Where I was greeted by a gaggle of lovelies clad in tight black evening gowns and offering Happy Hour pricing of 70 baht per drink (including lady drinks! ). One in particular was breathtaking, her name was Jom, about five-foot-two, 90 pounds, gorgeous face and long hair, she grabbed my arm and escorted me to my seat. I bought a drink for each of us and she spent the next hour sitting with me and listening to my boring stories and dumb questions. She even offered to short-time me for 500 (barfine) + 2500 (her tip) but I declined. My next stop was.
Baccara (9pm)
Where I sat in the front row and within seconds there was a pretty, tall, skinny gogo dancer named "A" asking if she could join me. Now normally I like the petite, busty type but if there's one thing I've learned in my short stay in Bangkok, if a girl approaches me and asks to join me, I just say "yes", because the girls that proposition me bring a great/positive attitude to the "relationship". Well she spent the next hour staring into my eyes, laughing at my awful jokes, and sweetly asking me to short time her (asking price 500 fine + 1500 for her for 1 hour). But I had other things in mind tonight so I told her a little white lie (that I would come back for her later), and headed out to.
Jungle Jim's (10pm)
Where a chunky, ugly, past-her-prime greeter hauled me inside and sat me down on a bench in the back of the bar. Within seconds there were five ladies surrounding me and offering to join me for drinks and a little groping. I picked the best three of the bunch and asked the others (including the chunky greeter) to excuse us. The three who stayed were all older, but still pretty girls who at first seemed way too lady-like and shy to give me the type of groping that I was hoping for. But as soon as the first round of lady drinks arrived (colas at 90 baht each). Wow! There were six hands in my shirt, around my neck, and up my pant legs (I had strategically worn short pants just for the occasion). They also tried to "unzip" me but I asked them not to and they obliged. By the time the second round of drinks arrived, I was getting stroked and was fully aroused and I was free to touch and/or kiss any part of these ladies bodies. I even had them change positions so I could sample all three ladies properly. They offered to take me upstairs (this bar has a private room upstairs) but I thought the offer was terrible (400 fine per girl + 450 room rental + 1000 fee per girl) so I took my leave and headed to.
Afterskool (11pm)
Where I was besieged by six girls and sat down on the first bar stool. I looked around and there was quite a range of talent, I have to say 4 of them were below expectations and so I agreed to buy ladies drinks (in this case cola + tequila, not sure how much I paid) for just two. One of them. Mya. Was a gorgeous, petite, busty 24-year-old with a sweet smile who stared at me like I was Brad Pitt. That's why I love Bangkok, brothers! Within five minutes she offered to take me to the Naughty Boy Corner for HJ (500) or BJ (700). Normally I'm way too shy to be serviced in public (it's just a dark corner at the back of the bar, where everyone can see you from the chest up) but I was absolutely smitten with this girl. So I said yes and she pulled me to the back of the bar. Within seconds the pants were down and this stunning young girl was giving me a BJ while I fondled those perfect young titties. I didn't last long after which she gently cleaned me up, re-dressed me, and asked me to join her for some after-sex cuddling on the sofa. I stayed for another half hour, learned her life story, and gave her a generous tip. Total damage was 750 baht for all the drinks and 1000 for Mya. But I had a priceless memory that will last me a lifetime!
So there you have it, maybe the best four hours of my life, total outlay a little more than a hundred bucks, what are you waiting for? Call your travel agent and get over here!
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Terry Terrier
06-12-07, 10:37
Cute. If you really thought that's what I meant, you were probably the only one here who did. But then again, you didn't, did you.
Attacks on foreigners, that's what I was talking about, just in case there's any confusion, which I doubt there is. I was looking for the posts I'd read -- one in particular was a guy's account of getting jumped outside Thermae by guys who'd just been hired by a furious bargirl to beat up not him but his friend. (he suspects the thugs mistook him for his friend) He described being totally overwhelmed in numbers, them with sticks and bars, leaving him in a bloody unconscious heap to be taken by taxi to the hospital, where he woke up later and got to spend a few days. This particular story might be on another Thailand mongering forum, not this one. Guess I can't link to it from here acc to forum rules. Maybe a PM would be allowed if Jackson approves of that.
There's a big competing board to this one that has whole threads just on this subject. Attacks with iron bars and knives (stabbings in the face and head, no less), and worse, you can imagine -- but I think in this kind of situation, they'd probably just try to beat the shit out of the guy and send him to the hospital. The girl would pay some street toughs to do it. I'm sure most girls wouldn't do this, I think I already did mention that, but it's that eventual unbalanced one you'd have to worry about.
But seriously, you guys think you're immune to getting attacked in Thailand? Because you're larger than Thais? The scary part is how you seem to be giggling as you ridicule me for pointing this out.
The last girl I went with, I paid her $7 too much by accident and she counted it, then handed it back to me. Then I tried to give her a tip and she didn't want to take it. In 7 yrs, I've only had one cheap backup mobile phone stolen by a girl who was very obviously no good (a clear mistake I should have ditched). It makes me wonder what kind of girls this guy goes after.
Nothing cute about my request, Wendella. The discussion was about Daddy 07's story. You and others tried to introduce the fear factor (and you continue to do so). I and others pointed out that this particular situation is too ambiguous do be worrying about revenge.
Sure, there are psycho girls in LOS. If you are unlucky/naiive enough to pick one up, she will have a thousand and one reasons to turn nasty because that is her nature. Using this type of girl as an example in this particular discussion is disingenuous because she can be used as an example of how things can turn ugly in all sorts of circumstances, most of them where her customer will be unaware of having done any wrong.
Reporting about general Thai-on-farang violence (remarkably rare, btw, given the circumstances of most Thai-farang relationships in LOS) has no bearing in this discussion unless you can show us instances of thieves exacting revenge on victims whose losses were not of sufficient value. It's just scaremongering if you can't.
Nothing cute about my request, Wendella. The discussion was about Daddy 07's story. You and others tried to introduce the fear factor (and you continue to do so).
"Introduce the fear factor"? "You continue to do so." Is it ok with you if I don't share your opinion? My opinion is that I think it's potentially dangerous to make a habit of pulling this necklace trap trick. But from what you're saying, I guess now I need to keep silent because you view my expressing that thought as 'introducing fear factor' or scare mongering?
I and others pointed out that this particular situation is too ambiguous do be worrying about revenge.So? You and others are wrong. If the girl puts 2 and 2 together, she won't be viewing getting scammed out of 2000 baht or so as ambiguous. And she obviously wouldn't go to the police, so that leaves one place to turn.
Using this type of girl as an example in this particular discussion is disingenuous because she can be used as an example of how things can turn ugly in all sorts of circumstances, most of them where her customer will be unaware of having done any wrong.Not everyone who disagrees with you is disingenuous. You can understand that people can have a different view than yours and still be sincere, right? Anyway, the example is hypothetical, of someone figuring out that they've been conned, what are they likely to do. That's it. A lot of people immediately start to think of how to get even. Sufficient amount? I dunno. Personally I haven't asked any girls what they consider a sufficient ripoff amount to go seek revenge. I mentioned the Thermae attack as an example of a girl getting furious at a farang and then hiring thugs to beat the shit out of him, right in the heart of Sukhumvit. If you need it to be an example of a girl getting pissed only about getting scammed out of her fee with a fake necklace, well then I can't help you. About the rarity of violence against farangs, my last time in BKK I saw some German guy getting attacked by the ladyboys in front of Nana at closing time (no idea why), they took off their high heels and hit him in the head and face with the points of the heel. One aimed for his eye, but only broke his glasses luckily. I'm only in BKK for short stints, like a week here and there, lately just once a year. Maybe I was just amazingly lucky that night to see some violence against a farang. Or maybe you're wrong about how rare it is. I'm sure up until the last moment, that German felt very safe.
OK, there's not much more I can say about this. If you can only understand it as "scaremongering", there isn't anything I can do about that. And I can live with that. How about we just agree to disagree. I'm sure people are getting tired of this one. (ok, I know I am).
Michi Michi
06-12-07, 22:20
Shark Bar (8pm)
[...] She even offered to short-time me for 500 (barfine) + 2500 (her tip) but I declined2500 baht for short time? Are you sure? You say this girl had a good time with you, but if a girl give me this price I think she DON'T want I barfine her, because cannot be serious, even in the expensive Bangkok.
Poor Brain666 has more issues then how others are not following his irresponsible economic policy. Its loon-icy, what he is preaching.
First of all these TGs are making a salary far superior to what a college grad makes in the states. What he fails to comprehend is the differences between a 1st world economy and a 3rd world economy. This naive approach is exactly what the TGs zero in on and are extremely savvy when fleecing a Farang, like good old Brian.
Gentlemen Brian has pulled the wool over his own eyes, and I'm quite sure has the same issues with his wife. PLEASE take a grain of salt with every word you read in his reports.
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not attacking you personally. I just don't think you have been introduced to the other side of the fence. That is the Thai side of the fence, your still stuck in the tourist mode.
To say it a different way: your going all the way to Disney Land for a horse back ride when you could just as easily walk around the corner and ask the farmer if you can take a ride. Same horse but your paying Disney $80 & were paying the farmer $8.
Try not to read to much in to the example, I'm just saying YOUR A NUMB NUTS and your not looking out for your fellow monger. GOOF balls like you should be banned from posting!
Sorry didn't read 1ball's report, but your price of 3k is far too much. I don't care how hot she is!!!
What makes you so angry? My upper threshold is at 3000 baht. My experience is that above no value added entertainment justifies more. That my threshold is at 3000 doesn't mean my standard rate is 3000 as some put it. If I would put an average about it, I may be somewhere at 2385 LT. Not so far away from Bule Daddys limit. The girl is well choosen, based on some talk before. Want to see if some chemistry is there before I judge the room behavior. I had good experience with GoGo girls.
I described before that I am generally nice to the girl and give them some attention. This leads to an average LLLLLT time lasting to around 15:00h next day. Some just stay until the bar opens again.
The last sesions in the afternoon after breakfast and also late morning are usually initiated by the girl. So my 2385 baht LT average, allowing myself to pay above 2000 LT are not so bad until late afternoon. Others have already added their 1st 1000 baht ST beergarden bill at that time to their 2000 baht last night limit, while I still enjoy out of my 2385 baht average investment.
And the later it gets the more the girl enjoys herself, at least under my 'hands'.
I think my deals are not so bad overall.
Ok probably the attitute makes that extra milage only and and not the additional money.
However there are girls out there that will not go below 2500 or 3000. Nice girls, I sometimes don't want to miss. I am ok that you leave them for me.
regards
Brain666
went back to nana entertainment plaza last night, had a great time
first stop playskool
i was the first man in (just before 8 pm), which worked out nicely as i had my pick of any girl in the place. i spotted the hyper-energetic "apple" on stage, flashed her a smile and within minutes she was all over me. very very cute and she was "good to go", asked me to barfine her several times (600 fine + 2000 short). when it was her turn to go back on stage i was joined by another cutie but this one was much more sedate, can't remember her name. anyways i finished my drink and it was too early for nookie so i peeled apple off me (she's a clinger! ) and headed out.
second stop rainbow 2
i have to say this was my only bad experience in nana so far. i checked in about 9 pm and it was jammed with girls and men, the latter mostly japanese (all of the rainbow bars are popular with the japanese). squeezed into a seat and it seemed like i was a mile from the stage. the music was very loud, difficult to chat up the girls. i made eye contact with the very pretty and petite "mam" and she joined me for a drink. she had a very sad story to tell and had a very sad demeanour, i was getting seriously bummed out just looking at her! she stared off into space much of the time. asked her if she would like to be barfined and never got a straight answer. most of the other girls on stage had the same "far away eyes" and robotic look. when mam told me she had to visit the ladies room i paid my bill and ran out.
third stop spanky's
now its about 10 pm. spankys is a small bar with a small main stage and three mini-stages. great layout, very intimate. if you go in, sit on the left side at the back. last night there was a stunning girl in pigtails on that mini-stage all lathered up with some kind of foam (she was simulating being in the shower). she asked me if i would like to slather some on her. yes, ma'am! there were only about three guys in the place so again i had my pick of the girls. but there was one girl flashing me the biggest smile i have seen all week so i invited her over. "da" was not the prettiest girl in the bar but she was clearly ga-ga for me. if you've read my earlier reports, you know that i value attitude over sheer beauty. she spent the next hour working her feminine charms on me. by the time she had completed her turn on the various stages (they rotate every few minutes) i decided to barfine her. we went up to the short-time rooms on the 3rd floor at nana and had a fantastic time. she is really into white guys! she's a real isaan/country girl, very sweet, very naive, an absolute sweetheart. after the shower and "boom-boom" she cuddled, massaged, tickled me into submission. and she had that big, beaming smile on her face the entire time.
i highly recommend nana! just keep moving between bars and eventually you'll find exactly who or what you're looking for!
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Pahllus Maximus
06-13-07, 13:18
1. You cross your arms, and lie for no particular reason...
2. You say "me no butterfly, me love you long time"....to your MOTHER
3. You see a man wearing a dress on a comedy show and you instinctively start to laugh along with the Thais before he even does anything funny
4. You greet your friends "haaalllooo handsome man, come inside please"
5. You get a blowjob before morning coffee, or even waking up
6. You say to bar girl: "Me no butterfly. You only lady for me. I take care of you when I come back next time."
7. She answers: "Oooh Farung jai dee mahk mahk. You sexy man, you send me money every week, I take care of mama, water buffalo and buy noodle for me until you come back...OK????"
8. Smoke and Smoking: see No.5 above. Closely related to "no smoking" at a Thai hospital (except if the nurse is pretty).
9. You describe yourself in personal ads "me like brad pitt, sexy man, plenty money and boom boom"
10. A girlfriend means more than 2 hours
11. Relationship means more than 12 hours
12. "old lady" means older than 24 years
13. You regard a 2-4 times age gap as normal, and a 60 year old (male) and a 19 YO (girl) is perfectly normal in your mind
14. "Room Service" is far from disruptive or boring; clothing for staff optional
15. A long time "without" means 3-4 hours
16. "Boom Boom" has nothing to do with terrorism
More suggestions ?
Other suggestions ?
RetiredForever
06-13-07, 17:27
Have been away from site for few days (daughter just had baby). Anyway just checked postings. Found it very interesting all the response to my previous posting about girl stealing necklace. I may not be as wise as a lot of the people out there. Matter of fact have lived my life by a simple philosophy. Fuck the small details in life and all of life is small details. Live by your own karma. The way you live your life always comes back to you.ALWAYS. I have always been a lucky guy because I never lie, cheat or steal. As far as other people go let me tell you a story. A man goes into a bar. Sits down next to a girl. Asks her would she screw him for $1,000,000. She says yes. He replies now that we have established you are willing to sell yourself let's dicker over price. We are all willing to sell ourselves if given a chance. Just depends on the price. The trick in my opinion is to set the price so high you are never tempted by any amount (say $20,000.00 more or less). So what is wrong with seeing what another persons price is? Leaving necklace may not be my style. When you agreed on a price with girl you make an agreement which you were willing to fulfill. For argument purposes do you need to lock up everything? Do you lock up your camera, wallet, toothbrush, underwear? Unfortunately in today's society you just about have to since most people are willing to sell themselves at a very low price. It really is unfortunate. But personally I have always left my self open just to see what there price is. Isn't it better to be ripped off for $5 and at least know what that persons price is rather than spending all the effort worrying about being ripped off.
Anyway just food for thought and discussion.
Dear All,
I've been reading several of your reports regarding the scene in Bangkok. I'm thinking of going there on holiday (solo). Would this be a wise thing to do?
Cheers
T
At least as of April when I was last there the Spice Club was the after hours place to be in the Sukhumit area. All the girls who hadn't had much luck - and some who had - were making a beeline to the place after 2 a.m. Unless things have changed - and apparently they have a cover charge now - it was all about picking up young girls looking for some kindness in the form of Baht. It is loud though and it is dark, but I had no trouble making the acquaintance of a number of girls and bringing them back to the hotel. It's a decent fall back if you just haven't been able to pull the trigger all evening and don't feel like calling it a night.
Tom,
I stayed at the Ambassador a few years ago. Average hotel with a decent location. I passed by the night club that they have and it's very small. Not sure if this is the night spot that you are referring to. The only people in the club, were a handful of guests and a couple of guys with their Thai sweethearts for the night.
I can't imagine much has changed, so I would say that it's probably not worth going to. Like I said, that was a few years ago, so someone else might want to chime in. I'm in LOS right now, but I have no plans on going there, so I won't be able to give a FR.
The best action is always where the guys and the money are. There's nothing about the Ambassador to suggest that a club there would have the kind of fun you are looking for.
AT2
RetiredForever
06-14-07, 01:31
Dear All,
I've been reading several of your reports regarding the scene in Bangkok. I'm thinking of going there on holiday (solo). Would this be a wise thing to do?
Cheers
TMy first trip to Thailand (2 months) long was alone. I never felt afraid about my welfare. You will always find the exception but with a little common sense you have nothing to worry about. Lock up your excess cash and credit cards (they can easily grow legs and take a walk). I actually found my experience was better alone, the first time, because it put me in a position of talking to complete strangers. When you are with someone you end up telling same stories you have heard before. The Thais are not a particurly confrontational people. I would be much more worried in a more so called civilized country.
Dude,
Don't think another minute about it. Just do it! You will not regret it.
I just returned from first time to LOS, but had to be prodded by friend. Although I travelled SOLO. Great trip. Thailand is generally safe, clean, modern and inexpensive. Spend a few days in BKK then head to Pattaya 1300-1500baht taxi. I preferred Pattaya, but you could always return for some days in BKK before departure. I've traveled around, and wish I tried Thailand sooner, like when I was in my 20's!!!
Just Do it!
... all of life is small details. Live by your own karma. The way you live your life always comes back to you.ALWAYS. I have always been a lucky guy because I never lie, cheat or steal.
... at least know what that persons price is rather than spending all the effort worrying about being ripped off.Poignant philosophy, accurate & true. Nice post too RetiredForever in General Reports, 'Everything negotiable in Thailand'.
Dude,
Don't think another minute about it. Just do it! You will not regret it.
I just returned from first time to LOS, but had to be prodded by friend. Although I travelled SOLO. Great trip. Thailand is generally safe, clean, modern and inexpensive. Spend a few days in BKK then head to Pattaya 1300-1500baht taxi. I preferred Pattaya, but you could always return for some days in BKK before departure. I've traveled around, and wish I tried Thailand sooner, like when I was in my 20's!!!
Just Do it!Dear all,
Thanks for your comments. They are well appreciated and I will keep them in mind when planning my vacation.
Cheers and happy mongering,
T
M P Lurker
06-14-07, 12:32
Bule,
So I guess that means you are never leaving NYC again, for action? LOL! You mentioned the boasting Aussie, the Rich/Classy Gringo, but you failed to mention the biggest group of all. The whinning, "stop over paying", faction that somehow thinks they know it all. I would not call them cheap charlies, it's something else driving them to speak out. I would say it's anger or disatisfaction with life? LOL! Look, don't take that seriously. Just a friendly jab at those guys, and they know who they are! LOL!
Bule, you must have your reasons for speaking out. I just don't think some of the comments come across very well. Many guys pay $200 to $300 for Caucasian woman in the states. Is that ok? Are caucasian woman twice or three times as good as Asian woman? Or are the punters 2-3 times as stupid? There's a lot of ways this can go. None of them good.
By the way, no offense to Aussie's or Rich/Classy Gringo's. Just using his words. By the way, stereotyping just irritates me.
AT2
I am somewhat with AT2 on this topic and even somewhat with Brain666.
Look, I am a generous payer of Thai girls but can pay quite poorly if the service is poor.
I am not wealthy bt I can afford trips to Thailand. I don't waste money on expensive hotels. I use my money for mongering.
My time is limited so I want the best girls even if they cost more.
I don't have any standard payment. It varies from girl to girl, but may pay a single girl a consistent amount for a consistent service so as not to completely confuse her.
IMHO, which I am sure others disagree with, we cannot set a price on a fuck, a ST or a LT because it depends greatly on how much work the girl had to do to get her money and how much of a good time was had by me.
What girl will be motivated to give the best session if she feels the guy is a stingy negotiator?
A standard sex session for me lasts a long time. I am incapable of blowing quickly unless sex deprived for weeks. So I pay according to the length of time and according to how many sessions in a LT.
Most girls do not negotiate a price with me and leave it up to me to pay a fair price which they assume I will know as I can speak Thai well.
I pay fairly and rarely get any complaints.
Occasionally girls ask for more but are just "trying it on" and will usually admit that I have paid fairly.
I have never experienced a girl stealing my stuff and never caused any girl to be angry with me or to seek revenge.
If I really like girls I will want to repeat, so its best to be nice to them.
I have on occasions given girls extra money when I have accidentally put them temporarily out of action with bruised and bleeding uterus, even though I am not a rough player.
All the stingy-bastard cheap-charlies out there are welcome to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off Pattaya or China-town or low class places where the bargain basement prices are available. Some of us want superior girls at a fair price which doesn't have to be bargain basement.
Many P4P girls are not making big bucks. The percentage that own expensive cars is not very high. Others have families to support. Some P4P girls are really stuggling due to not enough customers.
Fish N Chips
06-14-07, 23:20
Dear Brai Brai
The reason why some of those girls won't go below 2500 or 3k for you is because YOU and dozens of your non-savvy partners pay them. If some Thai-CHICK quotes you 2500, smile and say no thanks. I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!!!
We aren't mad at ya, well a little.
Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers. I don't care how FAT, SHY, or freaky your are if you can't make a better purchase then that you are a lost cause. GO BACK to where you came from and pay those over priced elephants.
First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.
No one likes to be told there being taken advantage of, NO ONE !!! BUT that is why we are here to help each other out. To educate each other, and brag a little bit about our conquests. We aren't here hating one each other, BUT we do get a little pissed when the prices have been posted in English and black and white typed text. BUT yet we still have goof balls being taken to the cleaners.
Its frustrating, It sucks I know I have seen the price of poon shy rocket. Its just not worth that much. Jesus, I remember when gold was 375 an Oz, I almost have to pay that much in the states to get half ass service with some METH head. Is that what you want Oooo Brai Brai, you keep paying those prices and that's where were going to end up in 5 years. because that all the time it takes 5 stinking years to drive inflation through the roof.
Be responsible & safe
Ok probably the attitute makes that extra milage only and and not the additional money.
However there are girls out there that will not go below 2500 or 3000. Nice girls, I sometimes don't want to miss. I am ok that you leave them for me.
regards
Brain666
Jimmy Red Cab
06-15-07, 02:50
Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers.
Very interesting statistics, could you tell us the source of your information.?
Sean_Double
06-15-07, 04:37
Very interesting statistics, could you tell us the source of your information.?
Yo Mr. Jimmy,
What statistics could be accurate? The point seems well made to me; with the proviso that 10% of the women in Thailand have been, or are prostitutes of one type or another.
Cheers,
Sean
NicFrenchy
06-15-07, 06:19
First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.Now I have seen a lot of irrational comments here before, but this one takes the cake. Just because you are Cheap doesn't mean we all have to be.
Can't you just put in your thick skull that "hookers" (as you call them) are Women and not a vulgar pieces of meat?
Every women has the right to decide at which level she evaluates the price of her body.
Now If you like to Fuck a 500 thb lady @ BG7 or Chinatown, that's your right, but some of us prefer the 2000 or 3000 ones. Why? maybe because we can afford it, and maybe because I prefer to invest 2000 in a lady that will only fuck 1 guy per night rather than a 500 BG7 Freelancer that will screw 5 to 10 times a night.
As you so adequately put it, It is all a matter of Choice. If you don't like the price, smile and go about your business.
Do you also tell people not to buy BMW's? Why buy one if another half price car could take you from point A to point B?
Anyways, the most important thing for me is to have fun and enjoy my time with the ladies as much as possible, I treat them like ladies and they behave like ladies, price is not an issue. I prefer a Good GFE time for 2 or 3k rather than a quick and lousy 500thb fuck.
To each their own. Why is it so difficult for you to accept that?
Dear Brai Brai,
The reason why some of those girls won't go below 2500 or 3k for you is because YOU and dozens of your non-savvy partners pay them. If some Thai-CHICK quotes you 2500, smile and say no thanks. I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!
We aren't mad at ya, well a little.
Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers. I don't care how FAT, SHY, or freaky your are if you can't make a better purchase then that you are a lost cause. GO BACK to where you came from and pay those over priced elephants.
First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.
No one likes to be told there being taken advantage of, NO ONE !!! BUT that is why we are here to help each other out. To educate each other, and brag a little bit about our conquests. We aren't here hating one each other, BUT we do get a little pissed when the prices have been posted in English and black and white typed text. BUT yet we still have goof balls being taken to the cleaners.
Its frustrating, It sucks I know I have seen the price of poon shy rocket. Its just not worth that much. Jesus, I remember when gold was 375 an Oz, I almost have to pay that much in the states to get half ass service with some METH head. Is that what you want Oooo Brai Brai, you keep paying those prices and that's where were going to end up in 5 years. because that all the time it takes 5 stinking years to drive inflation through the roof.
Be responsible & safeHi Bro,
Possible to advice me the place where you able to enjoy te below 2.5k rate for overnight?
Cheers
Kitty
Went back to Spanky's (in the Nana Plaza) to barfine/longtime the same cutie (Da) that I had shorttimed a few nights earlier. She was even sweeter the second time around, delivering an all-night 5-star girl friend experience. Like we had been dating for a year! I find it remarkable that these girls can develop such strong feelings for their "dates" under the circumstances. I highly recommend going back and bar-fining your girl a second time!
We taxied back to the Shangri-La arriving around 830pm. Here's a tip for those of you staying at the Shangri-La for business (and you don't want your business associates to see you with your new friend): have the taxi driver drop you at the hotel's "Krungthep Wing" entrance (across the street from the Saphan Taksin BTS station). This lobby is practically deserted compared to the hotel's busy main ("Shangri-La Wing") entrance. You should be able to slip into your room without seeing any other hotel guests.
And the hotel staff did not give us any problems when entering the hotel in the evening or leaving the hotel in the morning, in fact most of the staff gave us a big smile as we breezed by. Very girl-friendly.
AsiaTraveler2
06-15-07, 09:15
I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!!!
We aren't mad at ya, well a little.
First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs.
Fish,
Your views are getting old .. very old. The guys you are talking to have just as much, if not more experience than you. My guess, based on your views and theirs, is that they are also more successful and have more money than you do. Yet, you persist in lecturing these fine gentlemen.
Somewhere along the line, some older gents told you some stories. The way things "ought to be". You bought it hook line and sinker. Now, that's all you preach. What was taught to you by your "Masters". LOL!
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaase! Give me a break! LOL!
I've seen some of your pics. You are getting what you pay for. Everyone has different tastes and different pocket books. Post stories about your adventures .. that's fine. But please spare us the lectures. I'm having too good a time in BKK right now, to have you spoil it! I have spent 1,000 baht, 2,000 baht, 3,000 baht and oh my god! 4,000 baht! All were great and delivered what I expected. No regrets.
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
06-15-07, 09:27
To each their own. Why is it so difficult for you to accept that?
Yes! Yes! Yes! It's just so damn simple, that some just can't fathom it!
AT2
Fish N Chips
06-15-07, 13:48
Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler
Two of the most experienced gentlemen in the room. I must bow to your over powering prowess.
Another perfect example of denial, two poor souls that have been taken advantage of and insist they are at the leading edge of mongering.
These types are the most valued farang, they pull the wool over there own eyes.
Its wonderful to have such diverse opinions, some times I wonder who these posers really are? Why would they promote a .50cent hamburger as a 5.00dollar happy meal, really why. Then continue to brag about there misfortune, and act as if that were the standard?
ONE: A classic reason would be they are in denial, overwhelmed with the LOS poon factor. This mentality manifests itself from being raised in the Western Media driven markets.
TWO: have some type of financial gain by it (not likely)
And you know what frenchy I'm exhausted too, listening to you and traveler's negative approach. I usually try and put a positive spin on my posts, BUT why, why help a num-nuts like you? When you are clearly satisfied in your ignorance. Most rational people would make an effort on there next adventure to come in line with the norm, I wonder what you'll do? Type up another whinny post to support your self esteem, OR support your fellow monger? Hummmm?
By the way Jimmy Red Cab & Sean_Double The statistic i was quoting was from some documentary I had seen a couple months ago. Sorry can't remember the details, that number when quoted kinda stuck out. That's why I remembered it.
Be responsible and stay safe
Best Regards
Spanish Main
06-15-07, 17:36
Chill out Mr Fish N Chips - this forum is a fun way for us to help each other.
No need to get upset if other members have different views.
AsiaTraveler2
06-15-07, 17:48
Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler
Two of the most experienced gentlemen in the room. I must bow to your over powering prowess.
Its wonderful to have such diverse opinions, some times I wonder who these posers really are? Why would they promote a .50cent hamburger as a 5.00dollar happy meal, really why. Then continue to brag about there misfortune, and act as if that were the standard?
Most rational people would make an effort on there next adventure to come in line with the norm, I wonder what you'll do? Type up another whinny post to support your self esteem, OR support your fellow monger? Hummmm?
Fish,
The problem is that you see our posts as boasting our prowess. That is not the point. Are you trying to help others? No, I think you are trying to help yourself. You want prices to stay down for you. You talk about the norm? The norm is a tourist who goes to exotic places like Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan and they end up eating those $.50 hamburgers at McDonald's you so cherish.
They can't understand why someone would eat anything else. Well, you missed the point. We DO pay $.50 for a $.50 hamburger, the point you missed is that we also pay $50 for a great steak in a five star restaurant and enjoy that sometimes. Can you understand that? Yeah, you could grill a pretty good steak in your back yard, but that's not the point. It's a different situation. You seem to see all situations the same and life is more complex and interesting than that. Please get out of your backyard sometimes. You may be missing out on a lot.
You are paying 1,000 baht for 1,000 baht level girls. Nothing wrong with that. You get what you pay for. There are those that are more attractive .. a lot more attractive than what I have seen in your pics. They will ask for more and are generally worth more, at least for the "looks" premium. Some are worth it and sometimes I walk away. It's a judgement call. You think inside this tiny box and can't understand why someone who can afford to pay 2,000 or 3,000 baht would do so. You ask them to walk away. Why?
I guess you are telling everyone else not to eat anything but McDonalds, buy only used cars, live only in the cheapest city and only monger in the $.50 cent districts of BKK. I must say, you seem to be the delusional one. And no, you do not need to bow to my prowess. All I'm asking, is just for one minute, understand that we are competent rational people, making competent rational decisions. I do enjoy a cheap burger, but I also enjoy other things too.
We do help others. We post info on where we have been, stuff we have heard, the going rates, etc. Those are building blocks. Most smart people, move beyond the basic info and begin to work out what works best for them. Each a unique individual. Some end up making a stack of blocks and others create monuments. To each their own and what they do with the basic building blocks is their own business. Have you ever been to the high end Soapies on Ratchadapisek? It will cost you at least 2,000 baht for about 2 hours. Based on your views, my guess is that you would never recommend any of those. Not when you can get a 1,000 baht girl for all night! LOL!
You don't know us, please don't assume you do. I'm going to bed with a 2,000 baht Nana girl in a few minutes. I guess I screwed up again. Somehow, I don't think I will be all that heart broken in the morning.
AT2
Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler
WOW. For a moment there, I panicked. I thought The Traveler was back in town.
Fish, please, if you want to abbreviate Asia Traveler 2, please do so like this AT2.
otherwise, some of us might have a heart attack!
WOW. For a moment there, I panicked. I thought The Traveler was back in town.
Fish, please, if you want to abbreviate Asia Traveler 2, please do so like this AT2.
otherwise, some of us might have a heart attack!Mr. Vice President,
LOL :) ! Come for a few days, weeks, month to the Lodge, recover, relax!!!
Giotto
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By the way Jimmy Red Cab & Sean_Double The statistic i was quoting was from some documentary I had seen a couple months ago. Sorry can't remember the details, that number when quoted kinda stuck out. That's why I remembered it.
...Fish N Chips,
The last number I read (Bangkok Post) was an estimation of some "healthcare groups" (want to avoid some old discussions here). The mentioned "realistic" number of sex workers in Thailand was 1.2 Mio women. We all know that the official number of sex workers (government) in Thailand is ... 0 (zero!).
The result of my calculation now is that there are 24 Mio. people living here in Thailand.
Good that I am not alone :) .
Giotto
fish n chips,
the last number i read (bangkok post) was an estimation of some "healthcare groups" (want to avoid some old discussions here). the mentioned "realistic" number of sex workers in thailand was 1.2 mio women. we all know that the official number of sex workers (government) in thailand is ... 0 (zero!).
the result of my calculation now is that there are 24 mio. people living here in thailand.
good that i am not alone :) .
giotto
i've done a quick bit of research in the matter...
a few places have the same numbers as here:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/page.arcview.php?id=91309
to quote the relevant bit:
dr nitet tinnakul from chulalongkorn university's faculty of political science, who has carried out extensive surveys and research on prostitution in thailand, said that between 1999 and 2002 there were about 2.8 million sex workers in thailand. of them, 2 million were adult females, 20,000 were adult males and 800,000 were boys and girls under the age of 18, nitet said.
right, so 2 million women (over 18)
note the ratio of male:female sex workers over 18 is 1:100
assuming that holds true for those that aren't of age (and i have less than no idea if it does!!), there is about 792,000 **** girls working.
allow me to pause in the maths for a second - i am a bit shocked by that! more than 1 in 3 female sex workers in thailand are ****... i wonder if they are mainly in the local places or if that ratio holds anything near true in the farang places as well.
1 in 3 is **** !!
cripes - definitely checking all ids from now on.
anyway..
2,000,000
+792,000
==
2,792,000 (near enough to 2.8 million)
but - those numbers were from 2002, assuming a constant growth rate (which is probably a touch conservative given the economy hasn't gotten any better, and the fact that the population is growing slowly). growth for 2003 was 50,000
2,800,000
+ 50,000 (2003)
+ 50,000 (2004)
+ 50,000 (2005)
+ 50,000 (2006)
rounds us out to a nice and even 3 million.
the cia world factbook says 65 million in thailand, and i wouldn't dare argue with the cia.
3,000,000/65,000,000x100
=
4.615% of women in thailand (almost 1 in every 20)
that's higher than i thought it'd be.
do be mindful that some other estimates said only 30,000 in the whole country, but from my reading, it looks like several members of the board have gone through more than that solo, so, i disregarded it.
not knowing the source of dr tinnakul's numbers, the numbers above may not be all encompassing - they may not for example include the young woman who goes out once or twice a year when v low on money and rent is due or something.
Fish N Chips
06-15-07, 22:54
I can appreciate a fine steak dinner. I guess my passion had gotten the better of me and I agree with you!
The only down side that I have seen, and this is first hand from my guys that are vacationing there, is they take the information from here and apply it across the board.
Now if your steak tar tar speaks good English and can present more of a conversation then:
--- whats your name
--- where you stay
--- where you from
--- how long you here
--- your first time to Thailand
And is smoke-N hot with all of the previously mention services, you might be able to convince me otherwise.
I guess my point is to figure out how not to lead others to believe that above 2k is a normal price to pay. To be honest most of the bar girls/FL are limited to the above questions, and yes there are some outstanding ones. You'll have to admit they are few and far between.
Hey, I haven't posted many PICs. So what your telling me is I'm not much of a photographer? LOL
Can I have a #3 no pickles, to go
Peace
Fish,
You are paying 1,000 baht for 1,000 baht level girls. Nothing wrong with that. You get what you pay for. There are those that are more attractive .. a lot more attractive than what I have seen in your pics. They will ask for more and are generally worth more, at least for the "looks" premium. Some are worth it and sometimes I walk away. It's a judgement call. You think inside this tiny box and can't understand why someone who can afford to pay 2,000 or 3,000 baht would do so. You ask them to walk away. Why?
We do help others. We post info on where we have been, stuff we have heard, the going rates, etc. Those are building blocks. Most smart people, move beyond the basic info and begin to work out what works best for them. Each a unique individual. Some end up making a stack of blocks and others create monuments. To each their own and what they do with the basic building blocks is their own business. Have you ever been to the high end Soapies on Ratchadapisek? It will cost you at least 2,000 baht for about 2 hours. Based on your views, my guess is that you would never recommend any of those. Not when you can get a 1,000 baht girl for all night! LOL!
You don't know us, please don't assume you do. I'm going to bed with a 2,000 baht Nana girl in a few minutes. I guess I screwed up again. Somehow, I don't think I will be all that heart broken in the morning.
AT2
RetiredForever
06-15-07, 23:27
I am glad to see postings from people like AsiaTraveler2. Looking through all the old postings you will find a lot of postings from people complaining about the price paid. In life I personally have found you get what you pay for. A higher price on any consumer good does not quarantee higher quality but usually works out. Just because some member of this forum pays more than someone else should not make them a target of negativity. The members on this forum are not setting the market. The market (basic economics 101) is continually flucuating due to supply and demand. A 10/10 will probably be in higher demand due to the quality of merchandise. But how often is the product purchased. Probably less than the 7/10. I personally use to own a couple of strip clubs in the US. Surprisingly the girl that made the most money consistently was a 6/10. She turned on the personality whenever she got the chance. From the time the customer walked in the door she took it upon herself to walk the customer to his seat, sit him down and wished him a good time and walked away. After awhile she was usually invited over for drinks and a table dance. Now the 10/10's I had working for me only walked coldly over to client ask if he wanted a lap dance ($20-3 minutes). When they were turned down they walked off in a huffy and spent 70% of their time in the dressing rooms talking with all the other 10's complaining how they were not making any money while the 6 was raking in the cash.
Actually I have a point. Let us all work together. Tales are nice but accurate detailed information is more useful to the other members. Let's get more organized and provide detail trip information like my forum idol That Asshole. That man has some of the most useful mongering information. What hotels are girl friendly and overall worth the expense stay at. What clubs give you value, etc. (drinks, bar fine, quality of personnel, etc). What things in a particular area are worth watching out for. A lot of information could be provided to make the complete experience more worthwhile.
Anyway just a few thoughts.
Fish,
Eating those $.50 hamburgers at McDonald's you so cherish.
AT2McDonald's has $.50 hamburgers?
NicFrenchy
06-16-07, 04:36
I can appreciate a fine steak dinner. Really? it's kind of expensive you know.... a nice Steak (Real beef, not the Thai crap) and a bottle of good wine can easily run you a check of 5,000 thb+, now the last think we want is for people here to think they have to pay 5,000thb to eat in Thailand do we?
I have already expressed my views and will not repeat it again. Let's agree to disagree;
You can go back to counting your Satangs while I will go about spending my baht.
Freeman 418
06-16-07, 04:36
I thought that percentage seemed pretty valid as well.. someone went thru some research below and found 5%.. and that was only known sex-workers.
If you walked around the streets of BKK, I think you would find more than one girl in 10 willing to sleep with you for cash. Obviously different areas have different percentages..
Yo Mr. Jimmy,
What statistics could be accurate? The point seems well made to me; with the proviso that 10% of the women in Thailand have been, or are prostitutes of one type or another.
Cheers,
Sean
...Can't you just put in your thick skull that "hookers" (as you call them) are Women and not a vulgar pieces of meat?...
Some people just don't get it.
...I prefer to invest 2000 in a lady that will only fuck 1 guy per night rather than a 500 BG7 Freelancer that will screw 5 to 10 times a night...
I couldn't agree more.
...Anyways, the most important thing for me is to have fun and enjoy my time with the ladies as much as possible, I treat them like ladies and they behave like ladies, price is not an issue. I prefer a Good GFE time for 2 or 3k rather than a quick and lousy 500thb fuck....
And this exactly makes the difference. I won't pay 3000, but most of the girls happily accept 2000 if you treat them with respect and let them have a good time too. It happened sometimes that girls forgot to ask for money, and they can't have noticed that I slipped the money into their bag. (I still pay to avoid future trouble).
AsiaTraveler2
06-16-07, 08:47
Actually I have a point. Let us all work together. Tales are nice but accurate detailed information is more useful to the other members. Let's get more organized and provide detail trip information like my forum idol That Asshole. That man has some of the most useful mongering information. What hotels are girl friendly and overall worth the expense stay at. What clubs give you value, etc. (drinks, bar fine, quality of personnel, etc). What things in a particular area are worth watching out for. A lot of information could be provided to make the complete experience more worthwhile.
Anyway just a few thoughts.
RF,
Well said! Let's get back to the info! My work is almost done in BKK, and I'm ready to step into play time!
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
06-16-07, 08:50
McDonald's has $.50 hamburgers?
LOL! Ok, Ok, so I pushed the envelope a bit!
AT2
Fresh Meat 2
06-16-07, 11:18
I think some of you guys are getting too wound up about price, so heres my 2c worth.
I've been traveling to LOS for p4p since 1994 some 30+ trips, when it comes to price this is what works for me.
(1) I rarely negotiate a price with the girl. This means that generally there is no discussion about price before we have finished.
(2) If I get a s/t from say the BG on soi 7, I will generally pay her 1000bht.
(3)If I go overnite (LT) and lets say she is pretty and her service is very good I will generally pay her between 2500bht and 3000bht, in these cases I often give them around 2700---2800 which is 2500 for services rendered and 200-300 for a meal and taxi, I don't think I've ever had any complaints regarding the renumeration I pay.
I really must emphasis that if all a girl can do is talk about money at her "interview" with you then you are better to move onto another "applicant".
Good luck and good punting!
Pahllus Maximus
06-16-07, 13:30
It may interest you that an an official studies in developed countries pegged 2% of women are working girls some of the time, and 4% of men are users.
4% in LOS is quite likely given the huge wage differential/arbitrage created by foreign cash looking for pussy versus domestic wages.
8K BHT is a months wages. Girls can make 4-10 times the average wage per month by getting their pussy filled daily.
Fish N Chips
06-16-07, 14:40
The market (basic economics 101) is continually flucuating due to supply and demand. A 10/10 will probably be in higher demand due to the quality of merchandise. But how often is the product purchased. Probably less than the 7/10.
All I can do is slowly shake my head, you missed my point but stay safe
Actually I have a point. Let us all work together. Tales are nice but accurate detailed information is more useful to the other members. Let's get more organized and provide detail trip information like my forum idol That Asshole. That man has some of the most useful mongering information. What hotels are girl friendly and overall worth the expense stay at. What clubs give you value, etc. (drinks, bar fine, quality of personnel, etc). What things in a particular area are worth watching out for. A lot of information could be provided to make the complete experience more worthwhile.
Anyway just a few thoughts.
Yes, I agree and I have a group site that does that very thing. After sharing that info with my members I post the information here/there. Soo yes we are all after the same thing, My point was to identify what is high and what is the norm for a run of the mill working girl.
I have also seen some of these high dollar queens they are talking about. I think my photography skills are a little better? lol
You are also right about treating the working girls with respect and reciprocal GFE. One reason why my ticket price rarely goes above 2k. YES I have paid more then 2k, BUT it is by no means the norm. However giving them a memorable night goes a long way.
So quit being so (PC) sensitive and assume I'm referring to women as being hamburger. And yes spend what you must when attempting to full fill your "Pretty Women" fantasy.
Regards & stay safe
#3 no pickel - to go!!!
AsiaTraveler2
06-16-07, 16:05
I really must emphasis that if all a girl can do is talk about money at her "interview" with you then you are better to move onto another "applicant".
Good luck and good punting!
FM2,
Yeah, I go through an interview process myself. And yes, too much talk about money, is usually the sign of a pure mercenary and generally a bad sign.
AT2
I think some of you guys are getting too wound up about price, so heres my 2c worth.
I've been traveling to LOS for p4p since 1994 some 30+ trips, when it comes to price this is what works for me.
(1) I rarely negotiate a price with the girl. This means that generally there is no discussion about price before we have finished.
(2) If I get a s/t from say the BG on soi 7, I will generally pay her 1000bht.
(3)If I go overnite (LT) and lets say she is pretty and her service is very good I will generally pay her between 2500bht and 3000bht, in these cases I often give them around 2700---2800 which is 2500 for services rendered and 200-300 for a meal and taxi, I don't think I've ever had any complaints regarding the renumeration I pay.
I really must emphasis that if all a girl can do is talk about money at her "interview" with you then you are better to move onto another "applicant".
Good luck and good punting!
I'm a firm believer in the free market, and we are all free to pay the girls any amount we wish depending on a multitude of factors too many of which to describe here. If, for example, I could ever find a Grace Kelly lookalike who would fuck and suck my brains out for a high price, I'd gladly pay it to satisfy a once in a lifetime fantasy. (Apologies to those of you who are too young to remember Grace Kelly, who IMHO was THE most beautiful woman who ever lived)
But why pay more than the going rate for an average session? Part of what this forum is all about is identifying the going rate for goods and services in LOS. There are dozens and dozens of prior posts on this subject and that information served me very well on my two trips to Thailand.
In Pattaya, most bar girls (including those found on soi 7), and freelancers will go ST for 500b and LT for 1000b. Go-go dancers, (and I mean the young pretty ones), will usually nod for about twice those amounts or less. In BKK perhaps a punter should expect to pay a little more. But why pay more than the going rate? Would you pay more than the sticker price on a new car, or would you try to pay maybe a bit less?
Yes, and what's wrong with negotiating a little? I don't mean whining and haggling -- just knowing up front what is expected so that there are no unpleasant consequences. When you meet a girl you like, and while you are sweet talking her, just whisper in her ear: "I'll give you 500b, sweetheart, or 1000b, baby," or whatever the going rate is. If she expects more, she will tell you and at least you will know beforehand where you stand. The ladies expect this and are happy with it. They don't respect guys who pay them too much. More than one of the sweet little things have told me that.
To those of you who have more money than God ... fo get abot it.
Regards,
Daddy
ArchieLeach
06-17-07, 09:31
Daddy07
Grace Kelly, most beautiful woman ever? I don't think I could argue with that. I'm sure there are others who have different suggestions, but I'm with you brother. She was a goddess.
You earned respect with even the mention of her name. :)
I think some of you guys are getting too wound up about price, so heres my 2c worth.
I've been traveling to LOS for p4p since 1994 some 30+ trips, when it comes to price this is what works for me.
(1) I rarely negotiate a price with the girl. This means that generally there is no discussion about price before we have finished.
(2) If I get a s/t from say the BG on soi 7, I will generally pay her 1000bht.
(3)If I go overnite (LT) and lets say she is pretty and her service is very good I will generally pay her between 2500bht and 3000bht, in these cases I often give them around 2700---2800 which is 2500 for services rendered and 200-300 for a meal and taxi, I don't think I've ever had any complaints regarding the renumeration I pay.
I really must emphasis that if all a girl can do is talk about money at her "interview" with you then you are better to move onto another "applicant".
Good luck and good punting!
May I suggest you have your medication regeime altered because clearly you have a serious brain disorder, which the current prescription is not helping.
No wonder you've had no fucking complaints, paying someone twice the going rate. NExt time a tradesman does anything in your home, just give him double the rates, I bet he won't complain either!
May I suggest you have your medication regeime altered because clearly you have a serious brain disorder, which the current prescription is not helping.
No wonder you've had no fucking complaints, paying someone twice the going rate. NExt time a tradesman does anything in your home, just give him double the rates, I bet he won't complain either!The guy pays 2500 baht for an all nighter and you claim he's paying twice the going rate? You must limit yourself to toothless old hags if you're limiting yourself to 1250 baht for an all-nighter!
If you're looking for all nighters with gorgeous BKK girls, I think 2500 baht is slightly over what those girls would willingly take, but not by much. Those of us who take the cream of the crop should expect to pay a bit more.
Daddy07
Grace Kelly, most beautiful woman ever? I don't think I could argue with that. ... She was a goddess.
She's up there. Others... Catherine Deneuve... Raquel Welch... Nastassja Kinski... Marilyn Monroe... Audrey Hepburn... Brigitte Bardot. (need to picture each at their peak... I'd have a real tough time choosing one from this particular fishbowl).
Member #2041
06-17-07, 17:54
She's up there. Others... Catherine Deneuve... Raquel Welch... Nastassja Kinski... Marilyn Monroe... Audrey Hepburn... Brigitte Bardot. (need to picture each at their peak... I'd have a real tough time choosing one from this particular fishbowl).
Not me. I'd be more than willing to totally clear out the bank account for a threesome with Grace and Catherine Deneuve in their primes. BTW, this thread inspired me to rent "Rear Window" again (it should be mandatory viewing for anyone too young to remember Grace Kelly). Compared with these two, Marilyn Monroe was just white trash.
Compared with these two, Marilyn Monroe was just white trash.I'd go long time in that trailer park anytime.
Speaking of Deneuve, if you haven't, check out Belle De Jour. Ouch.
Daddy 07,
I am little bit to young (40+) for Grace Kelly and she is not my type, but yes, she’s doable (or was)
Think you are looking in the wrong part of the world if you want to find a Grace Kelly look alike.
Here maybe you can find one, and yes they suck and fuck your brains out for money that makes big holes in the wallet. (but its worth it, well sometimes)
http://www.passiongirls.dk/
http://seductiongirls.net/?id=7
http://www.agruppen.com/article/girls/piger
As for the price level in LOS, well I figure that its works like the rest of the word.
Hot girls = higher price not so hot girls lower price.
But with one big difference (the way I see things)
Most of the P4P girls in LOS dreaming about to find a boy friend that take them away from all of this, and they try to go for it if they se any chance that it will happen.
And if one is young and good looking it is easy to play the girls (fool them as I see it) and make them think that you are a possible way out of there, and get very cheap fucks for nothing, and by the way I don’t think you have to be young and good looking to do this either, but it helps.
But I think that is a shitty way to get cheap fuck and the ones that do that, well I don’t have any respect for them at all, even if I get feeling for the girl and can get it for free, I still pay the (what I think is) the going rate.
I am not going to make anyone of them my permanent GF.
In the end, this is what’s put food on there table, its there work and I think we have to respect that.
And if I look at it from there perspective, if I was I young hot TG why should I go for the same money as my 10 year older and ugly sister? Hell no!
Believe it or not but this thing works the same way even in the deepest inner red China.
Hot girls get paid more, get the chance to work in better places than there less god looking sisters.
And that would be a challenge, to make the Chinese mongers to pay the same for all the P4P girls there :) NOW we talking mongers wow!, I believe that most Chinese men do or have P4P.
As a monger I want know what the going price is in different places and pay that.
I don’t under pay the girls but I certainly don’t want to overpay.
The price level is different in different places and we can’t change that.
I have spend a lot of day time drinking in cheap charly BG7, and I have even found 2-3 TG that I have taken for a short spin from there, no personal pic but I found on website one of the girls (the one on the start page with the nice ass) http://www.thaicoeds.com/warning2.php ( this one was 4 years ago)
A lousy 1000 bath ST fuck, but one of the best bodies I have had in LOS.
But the time spent there to find one I like oh! If I compare it to RB4, well in 20 min I can see the same amounts of hot girls there that I have seen in BG7 totally.
But then again the price for a spin is higher, well at least I have to pay more there.
And the next level hot girls oh!
Models at massage parlours like Poseidon.
That type I have never seen at BG7., but the price.
For a 2 hour session, some of you guys can probably fuck for 5 days.
But I am sure that a young handsome super stud that gives the girls something to remember like F N S can get the superstars LT in some of the places I like to visit for 1000 bath.
And I don’t think its something wrong with that.
That’s good for the ones that can do that, I wish I could do the same but I cant, not handsome any more, and I am no super stud.
So when some of you guys talking about prices and want to help and share information to the ones that you think over pays (like me), pleas take this in mind to.
I still think I have to pick up my wallet and pay, but lucky for me, my wallet has grown to be pretty thick over the years, and that compensate the lack of other things.
I still get the hot girls, even if I overpays sometimes.
If you really want to help a guy like me, well Pleas!! Pleas!! Make me young and handsome again so I can get the hot ones for free again :)
Or share info where I can get 1000 bath LT super hot TG without spending weeks searching.
Anyway I have 2 upcoming trips to LOS (July and Aug) and the my game plan is (besides trying to get a superstar gogo girl LT for 1000 bath)
Soi Thaniya, have anyone any updated info to share about this area?
I always wanted to see if the japs get the best of the P4P in LOS but I would appreciate if someone can give me inside info about, BF, what to pay the TG there and howe it in generally works there.
And patpong
Anyone been there recently ?
TH
Note to myself: Drive my new Benz to the ATM and take out more money before the trip to LOS
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Fresh Meat 2
06-18-07, 02:43
Thanks Barrister for the back up.
Lets you and I continue to take the cream of the crop and leave the scrubbers to Petemcc.
Petemcc we all have different tastes and different levels of girls we hire, you stick to your 1250 baht all nighters, and leave the 2k----3k girls for me.
I do not post often but this is quite scary. I have been talking to a Thai girl online for a couple of weeks and she says she is not a working girl but works in an office for an engineering firm. That is fine, whatever she is is fine with me, working girl of not, but this is scary. We have arranged to meet when I arrive and she knows I am from the US. We we chatting and she told me she wanted to have sex with me bareback and she loved anal too.
I was so surprised and when I inquired about bareback she told me since I was from the US she know I would be safe as everyone who gets a visa to enter Thailand from the US must have an HIV test in order to qualify for a visa.
Insane and I want to kill the falang who told her that and more improtantly the fact she believed that is unreal. She told me she only does bareback with men from the US.
Just a heads up...so to speak
Thanks Barrister for the back up.
Lets you and I continue to take the cream of the crop and leave the scrubbers to Petemcc.
Petemcc we all have different tastes and different levels of girls we hire, you stick to your 1250 baht all nighters, and leave the 2k----3k girls for me.
Fair enough mate. I've never fucked an ugly girl, though I have woken up beside a few. But each to their own. How 2K extra makes a girl a better fuck is beyond me. Anyway, you can kep your cream, I'll pay for the skimmed milk and get a better deal.
Kind regards.
Pete
The guy pays 2500 baht for an all nighter and you claim he's paying twice the going rate? You must limit yourself to toothless old hags if you're limiting yourself to 1250 baht for an all-nighter!
If you're looking for all nighters with gorgeous BKK girls, I think 2500 baht is slightly over what those girls would willingly take, but not by much. Those of us who take the cream of the crop should expect to pay a bit more.
Ever had a BBBJ from a toothless old hag? Don't knock it until you try it!
NicFrenchy
06-18-07, 16:37
If some of you can't understand that some ladies cost more, then you don't understand anything about economy. Why eat OZ or US Beef when you can eat Thai beef at less than half price? after All, it's beef!
Accept that we all have different tastes, Opinions about P4P (thank god) and also Different Budgets.
I'm not an English Teacher (not that there's anything wrong with them) and I have a very wealthy way of life in LOS so I can afford expensive things.
When I shop, I go for things I like, not necessarily the cheapest.
memo to self - walk to tanahkahn and take out money in Muang Thai - not limited by amount of withdrawal on ATM card if I get it from the BANK and not from the MACHINE. Spend liberally, but not excessively...
Turn out the lights, turn them on their heads and they are all alike (some smell better than others)
Jimmy Red Cab
06-18-07, 22:37
If some of you can't understand that some ladies cost more, then you don't understand anything about economy. Why eat OZ or US Beef when you can eat Thai beef at less than half price? after All, it's beef!
Accept that we all have different tastes, Opinions about P4P (thank god) and also Different Budgets.
I'm not an English Teacher (not that there's anything wrong with them) and I have a very wealthy way of life in LOS so I can afford expensive things.
When I shop, I go for things I like, not necessarily the cheapest.
NicFrenchy, your post makes a lot of sense, if I hear one more person talk about "overpaying" I will throw up.
Quality will always cost more, cars, hotel rooms and also girls.
At the end of July, I will be in LOS for the first time in several years. My flight arrives quite late (11:30PM), which in the past has been no problem -- straight to the hotel, then to Nana or Cowboy by 1AM (which always seemed to push beyond 2AM closing), finally to Thermae or Grace, which if I recall were open 24hours (I never remember a 'last call' there.
My question is this: from glancing through recent information, it seems that a crackdown has caused the 2AM closing to be observed more strictly, and that it's being being applied everywhere (even the 'coffee shops). Is this so, and does anybody have any advice for wee-hours mongering?
Thanks!
Jake64,
The one option I like is to hang out in after hour bars. Some of these bars can be found just right outside of Soi Cowboy. These bars will remain open long after all the bar in Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza are closed. However, to get in, you have to either know the door men/woman. These bars do have some very friendly ladies who would not mind your aggresive hand or mouth (and have aggresive hands and mouths themself). I don't like going into these places by myself though. I think they are safe but never went into one of these place by myself. Always went out with at least one other buddy of mind. We will bar hop until we find a place that have some atmostphere and stay until around 4-5AM.
At the end of July, I will be in LOS for the first time in several years. My flight arrives quite late (11:30PM), which in the past has been no problem -- straight to the hotel, then to Nana or Cowboy by 1AM (which always seemed to push beyond 2AM closing), finally to Thermae or Grace, which if I recall were open 24hours (I never remember a 'last call' there.
My question is this: from glancing through recent information, it seems that a crackdown has caused the 2AM closing to be observed more strictly, and that it's being being applied everywhere (even the 'coffee shops). Is this so, and does anybody have any advice for wee-hours mongering?
Thanks!
AsiaTraveler2
06-19-07, 04:10
At the end of July, I will be in LOS for the first time in several years. My flight arrives quite late (11:30PM), which in the past has been no problem -- straight to the hotel, then to Nana or Cowboy by 1AM (which always seemed to push beyond 2AM closing), finally to Thermae or Grace, which if I recall were open 24hours (I never remember a 'last call' there.
My question is this: from glancing through recent information, it seems that a crackdown has caused the 2AM closing to be observed more strictly, and that it's being being applied everywhere (even the 'coffee shops). Is this so, and does anybody have any advice for wee-hours mongering?
Thanks!
Yes and no. There were some bars open past 2:00am the other night, but not serving at that point. Still, there were some people sitting around talking, and the doors were open. Did not hang around long, so not sure what time this went on till. For the most part, most of the action around town does shut down at 2:00am though.
AT2
Member #2041
06-19-07, 04:36
Look at the bright side concerning the early closings: Between 1 and 2 AM, there will be TONS of ladies hanging around the Nana car park who will go with you for LT or ST, and no bar fines. I actually consider the early bar closures to be a big advantage in terms of getting ladies who'll go Long Time for a nice price without a bar taking 300 or more off the top.
SidTheSexist
06-19-07, 05:49
Insane and I want to kill the falang who told her that and more improtantly the fact she believed that is unreal. She told me she only does bareback with men from the US.Just a heads up...so to speakAnd then theres the other even more worrying side.
The American who has already infected her with HIV wrecking her life and leaving her on a mission to get back at as many of them as she can!! Doubtful, but who knows with comments like that?!?!
SidTheSexist
06-19-07, 05:50
I've never fucked an ugly girl, though I have woken up beside a few.Excellent!! RAOTFLMAO!! :D
Sid
Jimmy Red Cab
06-19-07, 11:35
finally to Thermae or Grace, which if I recall were open 24hours (I never remember a 'last call' there.
When were you last in Bangkok ? Thermae closes at 2am, not sure about the Grace as I don't go there.
Excellent!! RAOTFLMAO!! :D
Sid
I have to admit guys that I was partly wrong. When I wrote my original attack on Fresh Meat 2 I think it was, I was pissed ( that's drunk to you USA people) and I thought it was a Pattaya thread. Having said that, why Bankok should be twice the price of Pattaya still bemuses me, but that's a different arguement.
Let me tell you a story. Alice Springs in Australia is the centre of fuck all, it's acunt of a place, but one night I tried an escort service there. The lady was 40 +, but did it for me, little, slim, and sweet. She was half the price of girls interstate ( that means in other states in Australia) but she was the real GFE and she did the female ejeculation bit, which was incredible, and made me re-think a few things. Anyway, she was, as I say half price, but she was a seriously good fuck, BJ, DATY, the works. Yeah, I'd had about 10 beers, and probably anyone would look good then, but she fucked good!
It's like real estate. Buy a shit house in a good suburb, or a good house in a shit suburb. Which is best in the long run?
Pete xx
Fresh Meat 2
06-19-07, 12:12
Jake64,
If you are going to be in the Nana area late in the evening and you would like to go to a bar that stays open until very late then try Sin, its location is about 100 meters down soi 4 past the Nana hotel on the same side of the road.
Its a rooftop bar with a few pool tables, normal bar prices until 1 am then the drinks double in price, when in Bkok i would usually go there around 11pm with a mate or 2 and play a bit of pool, from around 1am the place starts to fill up with freelancers, the standard of which is a couple of points higher than the Nana carpark.
Good luck
When were you last in Bangkok ? Thermae closes at 2am, not sure about the Grace as I don't go there.Thanks for the info, Jimmy. It's been at least six years. I always had good luck tracking down sleazy fun at the Grace in the wee hours of the morning, including the only foursome I've ever been in. I really hope I can find some good action my first night (flight arrival 11:45PM, so I'll probably get my first beer right before 2AM closing).
Asia Traveler, when you say 'people sitting around', where was it? Nana?
Member #2041
06-19-07, 16:22
It's like real estate. Buy a shit house in a good suburb, or a good house in a shit suburb. Which is best in the long run? Pete xx
As some folks have been saying, to much protest from the cheap charlie contingent, paying double you might get a good house in a good location, and THAT might actually be best.
NicFrenchy
06-20-07, 05:30
As some folks have been saying, to much protest from the cheap charlie contingent, paying double you might get a good house in a good location, and THAT might actually be best.You hit the nail right on the head.
As some folks have been saying, to much protest from the cheap charlie contingent, paying double you might get a good house in a good location, and THAT might actually be best.And probably the most easy and fastest to find :)
TH
You hit the nail right on the head.
Then again, shit may move into the neighbourhood.
Guys, you may pay for what you get, but let's face it, who'd pay 1 million Bhat for a stunner? Maybe 100,000?, 10,000? Where does it end or begin? Ever watched property auctions? People get carried away, all I am saying is be sensible!
M P Lurker
06-20-07, 11:40
. . .
but she was the real GFE and she did the female ejeculation bit, which was incredible, . . .
Pete xx
Do you mean she couldn't control her bladder and squirted on orgasm or do you mean she just got very wet inside, or what?
I mean girls can't shoot sperm, so whats this "ejaculation" bit?
When giving girls oral DATY, should girls orgasm quickly, others slowly, and some and drag my head away saying they don't want to come that way. Are they scared they will squirt something?
Jungle Bluebird
06-20-07, 12:42
Hi ML
I think he refers to a squirter. Kind of ejaculating, I suppose.
JB
Do you mean she couldn't control her bladder and squirted on orgasm or do you mean she just got very wet inside, or what?
I mean girls can't shoot sperm, so whats this "ejaculation" bit?
When giving girls oral DATY, should girls orgasm quickly, others slowly, and some and drag my head away saying they don't want to come that way. Are they scared they will squirt something?
The Traveler
06-20-07, 13:30
It's like real estate. Buy a shit house in a good suburb, or a good house in a shit suburb. Which is best in the long run?
Pete,
I guess we all know that there are 3 important factors when talking about real estate :
1.) location
2.) location
3.) location
Tear away the old house and build a new one if necessary. :)
Guess when making that comparison to a house you where talking about looks rather than attitude, so it should read as " Buy a shit (looking) house in a good suburb, or a good (looking) house in a shit suburb"
Frankfurter
06-20-07, 16:06
After not going to a soapy for years, yesterday I had a terrific service by a slim older lady, maybe already in her late forties. She still has an amazing hard body, big fake tits, and is a true first class performer. Her name is Pum, No. 25.
Annie’s is across from the Majestic Grande Hotel, Skytrain Nana station. Damage is 1500 Bt for two hours, plus tip. Compared to my nature of being a real Cheap Charlie I gave a huge tip: 1000Bt. But she earned it. Recommended.
Indo Phile
06-20-07, 16:14
first night in bangkok too tired to do anything to difficult. staying at landmark - thanks to recommendations on this forum - and so went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
girls seated outside so it difficult for indo phile to choose - eye sight not good. pick one with biggest smile - this seem important for next job.
her name is pim and she a bit older but not old. very talented but very quiet. would make good librarian - extra service under the counter for early return of books. :)
having a bar drink after business and hear very sexy voice. this belong to mew, very sexy to look at too. indo phile fancy round two and for first time in history actually manage it. mew nearly have lung failure from effort but well worth it for me. she has a good body and was happy to let me play with the top half.
indo phile leave tired and happy and not too much poorer. don't remember exact damage, about 700 for first, 800 for second.
Frankfurter
06-20-07, 21:20
Without any doubt "Angelwitch" is a great place at NP, well worth a visit.
Great, enticing show, great costumes, intelligent choreography, but as I said: “German Engineering” (The place is owned by a German), which means: No passion, the girls are REALLY just out for the money (I know, I know...: EVERYBODY is out for cash, but here, it’s extreme), they are litterally cold as ice.
Sure, they are probably the most beautiful performers at NP, but how in the world do you want to take somebody from there, you must be blind to see the super sized $-signs in their yes. What will you expect when you have her at your place, I ask?
Sorry, that’s not my game.
I went two steps next door; A really nice, down to earth bar (Don't remember the name) with nice, GFE material girls, OK, that’s more like it. Tomorrow, I take #75, Nan, I guess she is more to my liking.
Frankfurter
06-20-07, 21:31
After having last beer in front of the Nana Hotel I watched for a while the 2-3AM meat market. It's surely worth a doctorate thesis about anthropology. What I wasn’t prepared for was a fight between four girls, suddenly starting out of nowhere, really serious: First the usual, like hair pulling and so on, but quickly evolving into head, face and kidney kicking at the opponent which already was down, stomping on the her, face down, and so on. Since I am not really a stranger to fights, I still want to maintain some sort of fairness. But I thought, not getting involved is a smart, yet uncomfortable move. Well, it certainly killed the rest of the horniness I had in me. Going home alone seems to be the case.
It came to an end when the gentlemen in brown arrived on a motorcyle.
Without any doubt "Angelwitch" is a great place at NP, well worth a visit.
Great, enticing show, great costumes, intelligent choreography, but as I said: “German Engineering” (The place is owned by a German), which means: No passion, the girls are REALLY just out for the money (I know, I know...: EVERYBODY is out for cash, but here, it’s extreme), they are litterally cold as ice.
Sure, they are probably the most beautiful performers at NP, but how in the world do you want to take somebody from there, you must be blind to see the super sized $-signs in their yes. What will you expect when you have her at your place, I ask?
Sorry, that’s not my game.
Well, I made a opposite experience when I was in Bangkok this year April and last November.
I don't found the girls there not too pretty, but good GFE. In the Rainbow Bars you can find the most pretty ones.
The two girls I had from Angelwitch were very much interested in LT and they want also spend the whole day with me. The girl from November wanted that I move to her appartment and she even stoped work in Angelwitch for the days when we were together. She didn't asked for money, but of course I gave her some, though not too much. Well after 3 days it got boring for me and I left for Pattaya.
Funny in April I didn't met the November girl, but the girl I choose was a friend from the November girl.
Hi Guys,
I'm new at the forum, have yet to post anything but have been reading the post for a couple of months now. You guys are great. I've learnt so much and avoided so much hastle with the tips provided.
I will be in BKK shortly and plan to stay a day or 2 at Khaosan Road. Any hints on the nice soapy, oil and good spots at this area?
Thanks in advance.
Spartan
Frankfurter
06-21-07, 12:43
nice girl dg69! i am glad you had a good time there. maybe its just me.
also, probably i shouldn't have gotten a superb [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s bbbj/dt before i went to angelwitch. that seems to have altered the perspective.
Jimmy Red Cab
06-21-07, 13:27
I mean girls can't shoot sperm, so whats this "ejaculation" bit?
Of course girls can't shoot sperm but some girls do ejaculate during orgasm, I have witnessed this happen, not in Thailand I hasten to add.
If you are interested go to Google and type in "female ejaculation"
I have noticed that very many ladies of the night in LOS have had their breasts enhanced, sometimes outrageously so.
Out of curiosity, has anyone an idea of how much a boob job in a good clinic would cost in Bangkok?
I have noticed that very many ladies of the night in LOS have had their breasts enhanced, sometimes outrageously so.
Out of curiosity, has anyone an idea of how much a boob job in a good clinic would cost in Bangkok?80,000 Baht approx.
Not that I've had it done!
Sean_Double
06-22-07, 01:24
I have noticed that very many ladies of the night in LOS have had their breasts enhanced, sometimes outrageously so.
Out of curiosity, has anyone an idea of how much a boob job in a good clinic would cost in Bangkok?
Yo Seydlitz,
It's a pretty good deal compared to the U.S. or europe. I asked at Bumrungrad last March, and it was about $2500.00 all in for probably one of the best jobs in the world. Other quality hospitals are less: @ $1700.00-$2000.00.
I've heard that it's possible in some places like Chonburi to get one for as low as $500.00 or even less; it's probably one of those YMMV deals on a bunch of different levels.
Cheers,
Sean
Fish N Chips
06-22-07, 01:28
My last TG had cones, and If I remember correctly it was 1 or 2k dollars. I had asked because my sister had just had hers done and it cost her 10k here in the states.
I'm quite sure it was under 2k dollars, and I might say it was a top shelf job. I have chewed on my far share of cones and they were by far the best set I have seen! Set under the muscle, inserted through the arm-pit.
Here in Peru, Lima, too, at Cucardas you will see most of the *****s have
their ass, Yes!, their ass full of silicone!
From what I have read on Perutops.com, girls working at MP´s have enhanced breats and ass!
Hi Guys,
I'm new at the forum, have yet to post anything but have been reading the post for a couple of months now. You guys are great. I've learnt so much and avoided so much hastle with the tips provided.
I will be in BKK shortly and plan to stay a day or 2 at Khaosan Road. Any hints on the nice soapy, oil and good spots at this area?
The best choice at Khao San Road would be the choice not to stay at Khao San Road, if that's possible. It's way too far from the heart of the action, and there's basically little to no action over that way that would be worth checking out. Others here might be able to think of something (I only go to LOS once every year or 2, for short stints). But looking here or on the net you'll see quickly that Nana Plaza, Sukhumvit, Soi Cowboy and Patpong are where the action is for us foreigners. There's much more to the scene, but KSR is pretty inconvenient for getting to them. Monstrous traffic in Bangkok, remember that, plus a long distance and you're talking about a deal-killer. Probably best to stay in Sukhumvit area.
Another thing: KSR is not what I'd call a pleasant atmosphere. The overwhelming scenes in The Beach picturing the backpacker scene out of control, that's what KSR is like. Rooms there aren't as bad as the prison cell Leo had in that film, but lots aren't much better. If I ever go to KSR, it's just to go in to get what I need (air ticket, souvenirs, etc.), maybe grab a bite to eat, and get out.
Thanks for the replies.
I found a package on Burumgrad's website http://www.bumrungrad.com/thailand-hospital/htm/eng/main.asp?Filename=package/package.asp?pack_sub_cat_id=BRST%201.2
90.000 Baht (implants included) with one night hospital stay etc. A very good deal for world class work, I am told.
Over the years, I have had the opportunity to experiment with Thai ladies who had helped nature a bit in the tits department, and I have to say that many were just impressive: great size and shape, hardly any incision mark, nice soft touch. My personal benchmark is the famous Seung (of Baron's and now Tulip fame).
The GF is playing with the idea of getting herself upgraded, and I do not have the hart to discourage her, especially at those rates. Not that her natural outfit is small in any way, but it is true that she might look and feel better with the help of some moderate silicone props. As always, it is a mater of not getting too much of a good thing.
Here in Peru, Lima, too, at Cucardas you will see most of the *****s have
their ass, Yes!, their ass full of silicone!
From what I have read on Perutops.com, girls working at MP´s have enhanced breats and ass!
Yes, apparently South American chicks want to have a big ass more than anything else.
In Rio and elsewhere in Brazil, plastic surgeons specialize rather in silicon ass implants than breast implants.
Go figure. Personally, I favor ladies with a cute tight ass. But then again, I prefer Asia to South America.
Here in Peru, Lima, too, at Cucardas you will see most of the *****s have their ass, Yes!, their ass full of silicone!
I wonder where they make the incision, when doing an "ass job".
Also recovery must be painful, as I am sure the young lady can't sit for a while. (nicer term than "*****s", don't you think?)
Now for the real test, how does it feel when one squeezes it? Lumpy?
M P Lurker
06-22-07, 18:01
Of course girls can't shoot sperm but some girls do ejaculate during orgasm, I have witnessed this happen, not in Thailand I hasten to add.
If you are interested go to Google and type in "female ejaculation"
Well forgive my igorance as I had only seen women squirt on the movies and assumed they were pissing themselves.
J Dougherty
06-23-07, 00:13
Just back from a short trip to Bangkok. I've been mongering for a few years now, and to be honest, kinda bored of the straight pay-and-fuck, so I try to get off the beaten track, and sample the more interesting activities a city has to offer.
Eden Club: the infamous threesome, and yes, the girls are still ugly as sin! Hmm, thats not really fair. There're are some average looking ones there, but since you only get to pick one, its a crapshoot how the other half will look like. The girl's on the right side of the line (non-anal) tend to look better than the ones on the left. My theory is to pick the best looking one on the left side, she will then pick her partner from the right. That way, at least you'll have established a ground floor in terms of looks Up we go for the standard Eden experience. Double blowjob till CIM, rest, then lesbian/fuck/anal/etc. In between, we get to talk about how she was married, her kids, her husband's family, and hey, even some legal advice for free! It was interesting the first 2 times, but I think I've had my fill of Eden for a while.
BarBar (in Patpong 2): I've never heard of this place before until reading a comment by one of our ISG brothers here. Its a fetish S&M club, and they offer some aspects of BDSM + sex play if that's what you're interested in. It opens at 6pm, and if you're new to BDSM (and shy! ) like me, go early. The cover charge is 900bht, and includes your first drink (subsequent drinks are 350 bht, and 250bht LD). Once you've made your order, you're led to an adjoining room, with black leather couches lining the walls, and some BDSM contraptions in the middle (cages, X-bar, some strappy thing). Then you get to enjoy a 10-15 minutes mild S&M play by a few of their doms and subs. Its not always the same show. Mine involved 2 Doms paddling a Sub on the X-bar, while the next customer saw a show with the gals in the cage. Interestingly enough, the Sub for my show actually came over and licked my shoes at the end! Whoa. ! I had to stop thinking of all the muddy crap I just walked through getting to Patpong
Once the show is over, all 3 cuddle up and tried pressuring me to take them up. IMO, this kills the fantasy. How can you take the Dom seriously now, when 10 minutes ago, she was whining for your money? Anyway, its 4000 bht for 1, 5000bht for 2 girls, and 6000 bht for 3. Well, seing as this was my first time, I figured I'the splurge for 3 (2 Doms + 1 Sub) and enjoy the full experience. I also opted to be a Sub, since what the heck, it looks complicated to be a Dom, and being a virgin in this, its probably easier to be led than lead. After picking up some equipment, off we went to one of the rooms upstairs. I was expecting a full dungeon, but no dice. It's just a dimly litted room with a bed, a cage, an X-Bar and a footstool thingy which I never figured out the use. The Sub helped me undress, then one of the Mistresses bounded me up, while the other. Well, she tied up my balls (ouch! ). We agreed on the safe word 'Heineken', and she asked me how hard I want it, I told her to make it real, babeh! We started off with me pleasuring the Sub, then some spanking action, followed by foot worship, candle wax and more spanking. I was on my knees most of the time, which really started to hurt 30 minutes in. At the end, they bounded me spread eagle on the bed, and drip wax all over me while the Sub sucked me off. Oh, also, I'm sure because of the blindfold, but I don't think there was any lesbian action involved. As far as I can recall, both the Doms remain dressed in their kinky leather outfits.
All in all, it was an intriguing experience. Would I return? No. Maybe its just because I'm new and have unrealistic expectations about the lifestyle, but I was expecting more. Realism. Throughout the whole experience, I couldn't shake the feeling that I was the customer, as the Doms continue to be deferential when they're treating you. This is definitely not something you want as a Sub. The variety is not there too, and I think they could definitely use more creativity in coming up with the procedures. But, as first experiences go, it was interesting, and worth my 7000bht Oh, if you do plan to visit, 2 girls is an optimum number. With 1, there's even less things you could do, and with 3, one is always hanging around not doing much.
Slightly off-topic: I had the pleasure of meeting a local girl when I was there, and we went out together with some of her friends to a local club that night. Let me just say that the go-go and working girls are NOT representative of women in Bangkok. 8 out of 10 of the women I met in the club were complete knockouts. The 10's that I thought I saw in the go-go's, they're actually much closer to 5's when compared to the rest. We club-hopped (wish I could remember the names, but they were in Thai) around that night, all very nice places but mostly frequented by the Thais. I only saw a handful of Caucasians, and as far as I could tell (it was noisy), everyone else, including the band, was speaking Thai. Thank god she and her friends could speak English! And man, these university kids really know how to party. It was a weekday, and the club was packed to the brim. We actually partied till 5-6am, and it was a full crowd all the way to the end. I doubt there were any working girls where I was at, BUT Thai people are naturally friendly, and its very easy to strike up a conversation with them. I think if you go with a friend, and is decently dressed, you can have some pretty good fun mingling around.
Silly Fool
06-23-07, 01:56
Just back from a short trip to Bangkok. I've been mongering for a few years now, and to be honest, kinda bored of the straight pay-and-fuck, so I try to get off the beaten track, and sample the more interesting activities a city has to offer.
Eden Club: the infamous threesome, and yes, the girls are still ugly as sin! Hmm, thats not really fair. There're are some average looking ones there, but since you only get to pick one, its a crapshoot how the other half will look like. The girl's on the right side of the line (non-anal) tend to look better than the ones on the left. My theory is to pick the best looking one on the left side, she will then pick her partner from the right. That way, at least you'll have established a ground floor in terms of looks Up we go for the standard Eden experience. Double blowjob till CIM, rest, then lesbian/fuck/anal/etc. In between, we get to talk about how she was married, her kids, her husband's family, and hey, even some legal advice for free! It was interesting the first 2 times, but I think I've had my fill of Eden for a while.
BarBar (in Patpong 2): I've never heard of this place before until reading a comment by one of our ISG brothers here. Its a fetish S&M club, and they offer some aspects of BDSM + sex play if that's what you're interested in. It opens at 6pm, and if you're new to BDSM (and shy! ) like me, go early. The cover charge is 900bht, and includes your first drink (subsequent drinks are 350 bht, and 250bht LD). Once you've made your order, you're led to an adjoining room, with black leather couches lining the walls, and some BDSM contraptions in the middle (cages, X-bar, some strappy thing). Then you get to enjoy a 10-15 minutes mild S&M play by a few of their doms and subs. Its not always the same show. Mine involved 2 Doms paddling a Sub on the X-bar, while the next customer saw a show with the gals in the cage. Interestingly enough, the Sub for my show actually came over and licked my shoes at the end! Whoa. ! I had to stop thinking of all the muddy crap I just walked through getting to Patpong
Once the show is over, all 3 cuddle up and tried pressuring me to take them up. IMO, this kills the fantasy. How can you take the Dom seriously now, when 10 minutes ago, she was whining for your money? Anyway, its 4000 bht for 1, 5000bht for 2 girls, and 6000 bht for 3. Well, seing as this was my first time, I figured I'the splurge for 3 (2 Doms + 1 Sub) and enjoy the full experience. I also opted to be a Sub, since what the heck, it looks complicated to be a Dom, and being a virgin in this, its probably easier to be led than lead. After picking up some equipment, off we went to one of the rooms upstairs. I was expecting a full dungeon, but no dice. It's just a dimly litted room with a bed, a cage, an X-Bar and a footstool thingy which I never figured out the use. The Sub helped me undress, then one of the Mistresses bounded me up, while the other. Well, she tied up my balls (ouch! ). We agreed on the safe word 'Heineken', and she asked me how hard I want it, I told her to make it real, babeh! We started off with me pleasuring the Sub, then some spanking action, followed by foot worship, candle wax and more spanking. I was on my knees most of the time, which really started to hurt 30 minutes in. At the end, they bounded me spread eagle on the bed, and drip wax all over me while the Sub sucked me off. Oh, also, I'm sure because of the blindfold, but I don't think there was any lesbian action involved. As far as I can recall, both the Doms remain dressed in their kinky leather outfits.
All in all, it was an intriguing experience. Would I return? No. Maybe its just because I'm new and have unrealistic expectations about the lifestyle, but I was expecting more. Realism. Throughout the whole experience, I couldn't shake the feeling that I was the customer, as the Doms continue to be deferential when they're treating you. This is definitely not something you want as a Sub. The variety is not there too, and I think they could definitely use more creativity in coming up with the procedures. But, as first experiences go, it was interesting, and worth my 7000bht Oh, if you do plan to visit, 2 girls is an optimum number. With 1, there's even less things you could do, and with 3, one is always hanging around not doing much.
Slightly off-topic: I had the pleasure of meeting a local girl when I was there, and we went out together with some of her friends to a local club that night. Let me just say that the go-go and working girls are NOT representative of women in Bangkok. 8 out of 10 of the women I met in the club were complete knockouts. The 10's that I thought I saw in the go-go's, they're actually much closer to 5's when compared to the rest. We club-hopped (wish I could remember the names, but they were in Thai) around that night, all very nice places but mostly frequented by the Thais. I only saw a handful of Caucasians, and as far as I could tell (it was noisy), everyone else, including the band, was speaking Thai. Thank god she and her friends could speak English! And man, these university kids really know how to party. It was a weekday, and the club was packed to the brim. We actually partied till 5-6am, and it was a full crowd all the way to the end. I doubt there were any working girls where I was at, BUT Thai people are naturally friendly, and its very easy to strike up a conversation with them. I think if you go with a friend, and is decently dressed, you can have some pretty good fun mingling around.
Great report on Bar Bar s and m club. Very objective . Will definitely check it iut thanks to you. Would love to read more about your clubbing experiences with the non P4p girls. Yes their fave clubs are loud, smoky and most importantly SAFE for farrangs.
I believe when girls ejaculate it is mostly [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) mixed in with their natural vaginal juices. During climaxing their vagina squeezes the urethra and the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) comes out.
M P Lurker
06-23-07, 04:13
I believe when girls ejaculate it is mostly [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) mixed in with their natural vaginal juices. During climaxing their vagina squeezes the urethra and the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) comes out.
See Jimmy Redcab's advice.
We may have something to learn.
NicFrenchy
06-23-07, 04:38
There're are some average looking ones there, but since you only get to pick one, its a crapshoot how the other half will look like. JD,
Great Report! Thanks for the insight on BarBar.
In regards to EDEN, Let me correct you on the Quoted point:
You do NOT only get to pick one. The Eden Management suggests that the best option is for you to chose 1 girl and let her chose the girl She will be comfortable with. This is only what they suggest, you can Definitely Pick both girls yourself if you wish.
They will make you happy no matter what ;)
NicFrenchy
06-23-07, 08:06
I read these 5 rules from another Website. They are from a guy named Khun Leigh (a savvy local expat who keeps in shape by hitting most of the bars of Nana Plaza as often as possible)
I think the Below rules should be Carefully read by any newcomer or Newbie to Thailand's Bar Scene. Thanks Khun Leigh.
1) Pay As You Go
This is THE GOLDEN RULE! ALWAYS pay as you go. Never give a lady lump sums of money for any reason. Never fool yourself into thinking that she will like you more if you give her a monthly salary. Never prepay for any service or experience. Some of you may be thinking that this relates back to my first column about how ridiculous it is to "sponsor" a girl. Yes, you are right! With these ladies there is no yesterday and no tomorrow. Only today matters and if you gave her the sun, moon and stars last week she will think you are a bad guy for giving her nothing today. For example, I have a casual friend who was so infatuated with a top dancer from a popular NEP bar that he asked her if she would quit work if he gave her enough money. Her response was that 30, 000 baht a month would do it, so he gave her the money and she stopped dancing. Two weeks later he tells me that she rarely wants to see him and that she always seems too busy to meet! He feels like he spent his money for nothing. He did! I happen to know this gal quite well, so I called her to enquire about her intentions. This is what she told me:
"Leigh, you have to understand the way we think. I spent the 30, 000 by the 3rd of the month and yet he still wants to meet me and spend the night with me FOR FREE! Take last night for instance. I got 3 phone calls. One from him, one from a customer who paid me 4, 000 baht once, and one from a regular customer who always gives me 2, 500 baht. If I go out with customer number one I will get 4, 000, customer number two pays 2, 500, and your friend will give me NOTHING. " She is right. My friend thinks giving her the 30, 000 per month has paid UPFRONT for the whole month. In her mind, ONLY TODAY matters and until the 28th or 29th of the month (when she will try to reel him back in for another 30k on the 1st) he has gone from the most desirable customer to the least desirable. I think that’s what we call Ironic!
Pay as you go relates to all aspects of the experience. Even on a smaller scale, such as paying a bar fine and telling the gal you will come back in an hour. She may be there, and she may not. Depends on whether she gets a better offer. Don’t pay her anything unless you are walking out the door with her.
2) Enjoy The Game
Enjoy yourself! This is Paradise for single men and only losing your perspective can change that. I can pretty much guarantee that the guys who pay up front are NOT enjoying themselves. I love seeing the sly smile on one of my favorite lady’s faces when I see them with another customer. I love it when they make provocative facial expressions when the guy’s back is turned. I love it when they tell me all their wild stories. Many guys feel the same way and these guys will always have a great time here. Last week I was in an internet café and an entertainment provider asked me to translate an email for her. She told me it was from her "husband" in England. Ten minutes later she is showing me a photo a guy sent to her in front of a HUGE house in London. I asked if the photo was from her husband in England. She said "that’s my OTHER husband in England. " Well I was cracking up laughing when another farang customer came over to me and he gave me a high five. He said "Man I just love these gals. They are completely SHAMELESS. " Really wish I had come up with that one.
3) Check Out Different Places
Don’t make the mistake of always going to the same places. Different places have VERY different atmospheres and the gal’s attitudes vary enormously. Popular places like Rainbow and Long Gun are great fun but never forget that with more customers ladies' attitudes often deteriorate. Avoid Japanese bars at all costs. Nothing against the Japanese. Most are gentlemen, I rarely see one arguing over his bill or causing a fight. However, they overpay for service and expect so little in return. Any local guy will tell you that it’s a HUGE risk taking a lady from a primarily Japanese bar such as Rainbow. The ladies get lazy and spoiled. Many don’t even smile!
4) Never Forget That You Are The Customer
You are the customer and therefore have 99% of the power. Never forget this. If there is anything not to your liking just finish your drink, and go to another place. My attitude is that if the lady throws out any "qualifications" I am not interested. Such as, "I can’t do. , I never do. , I don’t have time for. , I have to be back here in an hour" etc. No problem Nice to meet you. See you later.
5) Pay As You Go
Yes, this is the same as number one and this is THE GOLDEN RULE. Remember this and everything else will fall into place. 95% of the horror stories I hear are from guys who broke this rule. Pay as you go. Enjoy the game. Check out lots of different places. Never forget that you are the customer and have the power. Oh, and PAY AS YOU GO!
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Slightly off-topic: I had the pleasure of meeting a local girl when I was there, and we went out together with some of her friends to a local club that night. Let me just say that the go-go and working girls are NOT representative of women in Bangkok. 8 out of 10 of the women I met in the club were complete knockouts. The 10's that I thought I saw in the go-go's, they're actually much closer to 5's when compared to the rest. We club-hopped (wish I could remember the names, but they were in Thai) around that night, all very nice places but mostly frequented by the Thais. I only saw a handful of Caucasians, and as far as I could tell (it was noisy), everyone else, including the band, was speaking Thai. Thank god she and her friends could speak English! And man, these university kids really know how to party. It was a weekday, and the club was packed to the brim. We actually partied till 5-6am, and it was a full crowd all the way to the end. I doubt there were any working girls where I was at, BUT Thai people are naturally friendly, and its very easy to strike up a conversation with them. I think if you go with a friend, and is decently dressed, you can have some pretty good fun mingling around.
This is something you really get to understand after you have been living here for some time. While there are plenty of pretty average looking girls in everyday life, there are some true stunners in real life and for the mostpart, the girls in the trade do not measure up. Walking across campus at a Bangkok university is a good way to ruin a pair of pants.
What is even more shocking is how some of the real dragons from the bars still manage to latch onto guys. You would need to be really drunk and it would need to be a long time since you were last laid to end up with some of these specimens. The contrast with the women in the offices, in some of the popular bars for local people and at the universities could not be greater.
How do I get my money back?
This forum is alway offline for data updates etc etc etc, it takes 12 hours for your message to post. WOW I'm so glad I paid my membership.
There are several competition sites, that you don't have to pay for and you don't have those problems over there.
Wow. Don't believe it.
Jimmy Red Cab
06-23-07, 14:35
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I am a cab driver, not a doctor, try this link.
http://www.holisticwisdom.com/services_female-ejaculation.htm
Old Thai Hand
06-23-07, 14:41
Walking across campus at a Bangkok university is a good way to ruin a pair of pants.
If this was really true, I'd be going through 5 pairs of pants a week (perhaps 10 pairs, given that I work at 2 different universities). :)
If this was really true, I'd be going through 5 pairs of pants a week (perhaps 10 pairs, given that I work at 2 different universities). :)
One would assume that after a certain age, one is capable of a bit of self-control...
Old Thai Hand
06-23-07, 18:04
One would assume that after a certain age, one is capable of a bit of self-control...
LOL. True. But, a class of 50 18 y.o. uni girls (which I currently have) can certainly test the limits of one's self-control. ;)
LOL. True. But, a class of 50 18 y.o. uni girls (which I currently have) can certainly test the limits of one's self-control. ;)
Then there is always the recourse to the age-old remedies championed by the good Jesuit Fathers: a 10 minute ice-cold shower. That should keep your mind focused and away from sinful carnal desires…
Sasquatch73
06-23-07, 19:48
hi,
my first post here, so please be patient. i tend to be elaborate, so apologies all around.
just returned a little while ago from bangkok. a friend had recommended the eden club and had given me marc's email address too. unfortunately it was 2 days before i had to leave for bkk.
the other worry was that i had some colleagues and wasn't terribly eager to let them know what it was i intended to do.
to make matters worse, i was going to be busy all day and eden doesn't stay open too late.
shrugging my shoulders and figuring, her what the heck, i mailed marc. explained him my problem, my preferences and hoped for a reply.
he replied within a day, explaining to me that i could either visit the club at 1230, choose my girls and go back to my work, or let bruce choose for me. (bruce, apparently was in charge, as marc wasn't anymore)
i replied in the positive. unfortunately this exchange took two days and it was time to leave. i emailed marc once again, before i left, not expecting a reply. the reply came, he'd already spoken to bruce and gave me bruce's number.
to cut a long story short, i called bruce (polite, genial frenchman) at noon and asked him to choose for me. described my choices, he said ok. what time, asked he. 2130, said i. ok, done. click.
crap, i didn't ask him how much! (though i knew) redial, ummm bruce, how much? 3000 baht each lady - total 6000. bruce, do i tip. not really necessary, says he (and that is refereshing to hear in thailand), we don't expect you to tip and it's not necessary. but if you like you can, no problem.
i carried on with my work, mildly apprehensive about the evening. unfortunately my work delayed me further and at about 2000 i called bruce again, to inform him not to send the girls, till i called him again. he was patient, throughout. consider that i had neither seen nor met them, nor paid a cent.
at 2130 i approached my hotel and called bruce, he said they would leave immediately.
at 2230, reception called. you have visitor, said he. i paled, lol. went down to the lobby, expecting 2 complete clones of my granny, to be waiting near reception. didn't look around much, walked past massive lobby to reception. yes? you have to pay 1000 baht fee. ah really? ok. each. oh each? 2000 baht? yes. ah ok.
i'll sign the bill. ok now?
no, apparently the man needed the id proof of the girls. ah ok. well man where are they? he points, i turn, heart thumping. they're gorgeous. both.
i go up to them. one's older, very good looking, both are very well dressed. i say hi. they say hi sasquatch?? i say yeah and we break into smiles. well, we leave the id at the stupid desk and into the ellie we go.
there's smiles and giggling from both of them. the older one is well, tall and hair and like i requested for. the other is perky, small, and naughtier looking. suits me fine.
we had a few drinks and just chatted for a while. just general stuff. both spoke english, well. all 3 of us smoked a few cigarettes and chatted. the older one was full of interesting conversation. soon, she showed me that her hair (long, black and fantastic) was all just extensions. the honesty of it all had us laughing. so what's in your bag? she pulls out an assortments of ohmygods. there's strappies, vibrators the works. what's this for, says i? for you, she says. i do your bum, she says laughing.; i say oh no, thanks, not my scene. we chatted for about and hour, and it was amazing. perky cuddled in my lap while extensions played with my legs on the bed. i had a silly grin on all along.
soon we showered, thai typical shower that always reminds me of someone washing their 5 year old boy. they were fussy and very clean. the usual mouthwash and extra special attention to private parts.
perky(p) was brushing her teeth while extensions (e) washed me.
soon e and i stepped out, leaving p to shower alone. not only did e dry me gently but gave me a slow and sensous wettt bbbj while drying my backside.
after about 5 mins of this, she dries herself, while i'm in a towel, slightly in a daze. p steps out. before i know what's happening, p & e push me onto the bed and their having a blast. ticking me, giggling, bbbj happening between them, while i'm lying down. one gets up and aims for me to daty, i dato while i'm at it. i can't see, but they're both frenching junior till me eyes are rolling back and i can't see much but spots.
between the two of them, i had the best oral of my life. and i've had some. it was the best dual gfe i've had. we laughed and giggled and tripped and fell over each other. it was like a pillow fight, lol.
we did everything. went on forever. after about and hour and a half of every possible position, i wanted to smoke.
i lit up. why dont you do her e? says i. e obligingly straps on and proceeds to do p. nicest smoke i ever had. we've been through about 8 condoms so far. they insist on changing every time and i'm ok with that. better safe than sorry.
then i'm back in the huddle. strappies out from the bed (after what she said, i wasn't taking any chances lol) we're busy banging and e has the nicest ass and hole i've ever seen. may i? she smiles and says ofcourse. i do. it's mind bending.
after 2 hours of this, for some reason, e has the sniffles. is it the aircon love? can i turn it down? would you please? i do. e's off to blow her nose. p decides to blow me. she is incredible and with purpose.
5 minutes of that and i can't take it anymore, i shoot and p swallows every bit. we're lying there laughing and e comes out. p tells her in thai, it's over. she frowns and sulks (playfully)
i was finished, gentlemen. the two of them spent the night, p playing with my chest hair, while e snored ever so slightly, lol (they were supposed to leave at 7) but they just spent the whole morning lazing with me. at about 9, i had to go so i got up and got showered and dressed.
they got up lazly, kissed me good morning, and (strangely) both went for a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) while i brushed my teeth. it was fantastic gfe, they were like my roomies. dream come true.
i paid e 6000. then added another 1000 and said it was taxi fare. they'd been so nice to me that it felt stupid to tip them. they kissed me one by one and p told me i was a very very nice man. i said thank you and they said no, we thank you and did the customary thai folded hands thank you.
marc, bruce, if you ever read this - thank you.
and you guys, if you're still reading my extra loooong first report, wow, you've got some serious patience!
thanks and enjoy!
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Old Thai Hand
06-23-07, 20:15
Then there is always the recourse to the age-old remedies championed by the good Jesuit Fathers: a 10 minute ice-cold shower. That should keep your mind focused and away from sinful carnal desires…
Hair shirt? flagellation?
Too bad. I'm not Catholic.
Hair shirt? flagellation?
Too bad. I'm not Catholic.
For kinky stuff like that, I do not know. That might turn into masochistic delectation before you know it.
But the cold shower thing, coupled to a very long gallop with your charger was the thing prescribed to horny young British cavalry officers in the Indian Army in the Good Old Days of the Raj. Getting married before you turned forty and were made a major was very much frowned upon, European ladies were simply unavailable for unmarried intercourse, masturbation was a sure ticket for hell and a proper pukka gentleman could not possibly soil himself with a native girl, no matter how enticing she might be.
No Catholics there, just plain Church of England.
Old Thai Hand
06-24-07, 03:27
For kinky stuff like that, I do not know. That might turn into masochistic delectation before you know it.
But the cold shower thing, coupled to a very long gallop with your charger was the thing prescribed to horny young British cavalry officers in the Indian Army in the Good Old Days of the Raj. Getting married before you turned forty and were made a major was very much frowned upon, European ladies were simply unavailable for unmarried intercourse, masturbation was a sure ticket for hell and a proper pukka gentleman could not possibly soil himself with a native girl, no matter how enticing she might be.
No Catholics there, just plain Church of England.
well, I am C of E and I was once an army officer. So, you might be onto something.
Member #3200
06-24-07, 03:57
Welcome back
I haven't seen you much on the baord recently
With your help & others I now have made 2 trips 2 the LOS in the last 7 months & a 3rd will be happening later this early/early next year
This 1 will be less mongering-no more 2 a day for 12 nights, but more sightseeing, relaxation & getting serious about leaving Canada, finding a teaching job & meeting 1 of my thai female friends for something more than just ST/LT pleasure any more expertise advance from you or others-including Opebo would be greatly aprreciated.
this is just a usesless post of my thoughts, observations, and advice.
2nd trip to bkk. this time for 2 days before heading north for a week, then southeast for a week.
bkk. same as last year. nothing has really changed. i still love it. this time i am staying at a gf hotel near nana.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). first time there. it's okay for a quick shot. i am not a member of the 2 minute club. it's more like minimum 10. here skills were good, it's just that i do not cum quickly.
patpong rd.. i only went to ceb. i like it better than all the other places there. yes patpong cost more for the women than the other areas, but i am not on a budget or poor. took a fair skinned cutie from phuket back to my room. her comment was that she was surprised i took her because most of the customers prefer skin darker than her's. hmmmm. based on posts on this board, she should be making more than the other ladies. but remember, posters make up a very small percentage of the actual number of mongers out there.
nana. didn't go. i just don't like it there. the vibes of it just aren't there for me. maybe if i was younger i would like it. i'll give it another shot tonight.
soi cowboy. i like it there. don't know why. i just feel more comfortable there.
advice to new bkk travelers. bounce around. find the place that you like. don't let a lot of postings stop you from possibly enjoying great experiences.
more advice. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. a lot of the beauty is within. i am a sucker for a natural beautiful smile directed at me. i melt in there hands. in a beer bar or gogo club, i'll always take a 7-8 with a great smile and personality over the super stunner (unless she has a great smile and personality). it will most likely be gfe.
even more advice. learn to speak a little thai. you will enjoy it here more.
my problem. i have to stop saying that i will come back tomorrow in the gogo clubs. my word is worth a lot to me. if i say that i will return and barfine a lady the next day or two, i always return because i keep my word. note to self: just say good bye and leave.
rayzor
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Lone Punter
06-24-07, 10:35
My suspicion already a few months ago that asianstreetmeat is just uploading old stuff seems confirmed. Has anyone in the meantime more information about it, what happened to the famous Nigel? Did he retire? Working for some other site? Except for exploitedteensasia that is regularly uploading good stuff from the Philippines I don't know of any decent asian site, don't want to name the one I tried, it was disappointing. The actors, 2 americans were just too dumb, humilating the girls by emptying the condoms on their faces and so on; any suggestions for a great asian pornsite welcomed. Of cause interested in any informations about ASM too.
Old Thai Hand
06-24-07, 12:00
Welcome back
I haven't seen you much on the baord recently
With your help & others I now have made 2 trips 2 the LOS in the last 7 months & a 3rd will be happening later this early/early next year
This 1 will be less mongering-no more 2 a day for 12 nights, but more sightseeing, relaxation & getting serious about leaving Canada, finding a teaching job & meeting 1 of my thai female friends for something more than just ST/LT pleasure any more expertise advance from you or others-including Opebo would be greatly aprreciated.
I'm not actually back. Just popped in for a read and thought I'd post a couple of things.
My short advice to you is NOT to consider leaving Canada and coming here at present. While there is a critical shortage of qualified foreign teachers here, this apparently hasn't translated into better salaries, or better treatment at the hands of Thai school administrators. Generally, the atmosphere in Thailand is decidely more anti-Farang now. I thought Taksin and his bunch were bad for Farangs. But, he was a pussy-cat compared to the old, military fuddy-duddies who very obviously hate Farang and Western culture, in general.
Well, I'm off again. I think those cold showers suggested by Seydlitz as a remedy for being surrounded by all those hot uni girls are going to get a real test. I'm on my way to Europe for 3 weeks with 7, 19 y.o. uni girls on a cultural tour. It's a dirty job. But, somebody's got to do it. :)
The Master
06-24-07, 13:31
Visiting BKK for a few days, and want to check out what is on offer in Darling Massage, really want to benchmark the talent and service standard in BKK, especially for the one that most of the reports put it on a higher end of the market.
Went in the place, One Papasam is on duty. Not too many available in the FB, I know the lights are deciving, but, to the best of my judgement, I pick a girl sitting on the front floor, in Blue, later come out as No 27.
She had too much make ups, could not tell how Old or young she is. Up we go to the rooms, the old nana is asking if we need drinks, 80B for a coke. Which is 4 times the normal price.
Into the room, another old lady brought a basket of lotion, and etc, and a CD player. The room no 20 looked old.
Proceed into the tub and she also joining in. This is the first time that I could exam her body at a close range. The bust is likely being dummy as I can feel something hard inside, as I do not like dummy, I never hold that again.
The good thing is that she has got a great ass. Nice round, good size. This turns me on a bit. Had a bbj in the water, but did not CIM though.
Get the the bed for some massage, then she ask me if I want second shot. Of cause. Then she takes out the rubber, and proceed with some BJ, add the rain coat went on. During she on top, she started to complain pain. Saying maybe the quality of the rubber is no good. We changed to the doggie, which her nice, round, big ass is showing in front of me. Really hard fucking for about 10 min. Finishing off also in doggie as it is my prefered position.
At the end, she is asking for 1K tip, as I remember on some of the report, the regular is 500B tip, as she asked, I did not argue. Gave her 1K,
Overall, the experience in the tub is different compare to Dong Guan Suana. Although Dong Guan Sauna has some wet bed now for a good washing and body sliding, 69 sliding, the in the water BJJ is an enjoyable experience.
Comparing to the Chinese girl, most of the thai girls in these place are older, and the faces are more showing experiences. This is why I said to myself. That's it. I will keep my money, and do it in Dong Guan instead.
Have not post anything for a long time. Will add something about Dong Guan later.
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Old Thai Hand
06-24-07, 16:10
Son of a *****! You lucky f*ck. LOL!
Are you dating just one? or having fun with all of them? Can wait to see your photos? Which EU cities will your group be touring?
Not dating. No photos.
Gentleman,
I came across this website and find the photos of the ladies very desirable. Since I don't read Japanese, I don't know what they are saying about each establishment. There are loads of places.
http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=25
From reading the forum, I gather 'gringos' are not welcome at these places. I have also read that girls that service the Japanese businessmen regularly under perform because the men don't last long & always overpay. Easy work for them.
I am Chinese-American, would I be accepted at these places. Would they be worth it?
Some of these places look like just hostess bars, are the girls still available for f^cking? Any intel would be appreciated.
I will be traveling to BKK/PTY around Christmas time. My regular wingman don't like to spend much time in BKK. After 3 trips there, I have spent only about 1 week total in BKK. I would like to experience more areas in BKK than just Nana Entertainment Plaza and the Biergarden. Anyone want to show me BKK, please get in touch.
Regards,
Almotu
Advice for Member 3200:
OTH is right that the mood is very anti-farang in Thailand, though that's something we've been used to for years now. It is very easy to get a teaching job here as there is a dire shortage of teachers, and there is no need for any 'qualification', other than a degree and a willingness to put up with Thais. While it is true the salaries are still about 30-35,000 baht per month, that is enough for upcountry. Alas, it is not enough to live in Pattaya, nor are there many teaching jobs near there, so in effect the entire reason for living in Thailand is invalidated. Imagine living here and being unable to afford the one girl a day we all need to enjoy life? True you can try the 'free' ones but they're an enormous pain in the ass and much less fun than the working girls.
Keep in mind that teaching is almost unbelievably hard work. You have to get up at around seven or eight in the morning, and they will actually expect you to stay till four or five PM! Sheer exhaustion is the guiding theme of the teacher's life. You will also have to 'prepare' a lot of nonsense for various classes that you may know nothing about - usually empty slots are filled by the next farang hired. Even if you're just teaching English you will find that it is really hard work honking away at disinterested Thai rich kids for hours at a time. How can one fill 18 hours a week with blather, week after week, without access to any assitance or materials other than the internet? Ask yourself this.
In short, come and try it if your life in Canada is very miserable like that of most people in North America. Otherwise, stay.
MerryPenguin
06-24-07, 23:59
Gday All,
I arrive in Bangkok on Tuesday evening for my first ever trip to SE Asia and am feeling a little nervous. The plan is to travel through Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and Phillipines over a couple of months combining seeing the wonderful sights with a whole lot of mongering. I've read for a long time about the delights that one can get in SE Asia that are hard to get elsewhere and I want to experience EVERYTHING that is on offer (excluding the ladyboys of course... lol).
I've been reading up on the posts and have noticed that the system of barfines seems very common. If it's not too much trouble, would someone be able to briefly explain how this works so that I don't look like too much of a tool when I start out.
Also, what is the best way for me to know if the places I'm staying in are GF or not? Does one just ask and, if so, is there a sort of code to speak in or do you just ask outright if it's alright to bring girls back to your room? Does one have to book a double room in you want to have 'company'?
Thanks to everyone for your great posts and I really hope the experiences I have in SE Asia will be able to be posted to help others in future.
MP
Sounds like you're from Oz. Basically, (in Bangkok & Pattaya anyway) you should just come out and ask when booking your accommodations if they charge a guest fee or "joiner fee". I think the direct approach is best. Except for the high-end, family oriented hotel/resorts, most places understand what you are after. They will be glad to take the lady's ID at the front desk and you can take her upstairs. Of course, two or more girls at the same time might be a different story. Most mid-level hotels/guesthouses will not charge you extra to bring a guest overnight. I don't think you need to trouble yourself with booking a double unless you keep a girl for the length of your stay. By booking double some hotels give you two breakfasts.
When you take a girl, the establishment is losing her services for that time so they set a barfine to compensate for it. I am still getting used to it myself as I am still a novice. I have only been to BKK/PTY 3x in the past two years. BF's can be $R150-R300 at a beer bar and up to $R500-R1000 at a go-go. During busy holidays like Christmas and New Years, the bars will jack up their barfines and bar the girls from getting BF'd until 11pm or midnight! My advice is again be upfront and ask the manager.
In general, I think you can get help with the scene pretty easily (in Pattaya anyway from my experience) Most mongers are friendly and willing to show you the ropes. You just need to know how to spot one & maybe buy a round at the bar :rolleyes: When you are expected to arrive at a certain city, post in the Travel thread and solicit a wingman. ISGers might help you out.
NicFrenchy
06-25-07, 06:20
Gentleman,I came across this website and find the photos of the ladies very desirable. Since I don't read Japanese, I don't know what they are saying about each establishment. There are loads of places.
http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=25Ever heard of this Website? It translates the Whole Page from Jappo to English.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
The best choice at Khao San Road would be the choice not to stay at Khao San Road, if that's possible. It's way too far from the heart of the action, and there's basically little to no action over that way that would be worth checking out. Others here might be able to think of something (I only go to LOS once every year or 2, for short stints). But looking here or on the net you'll see quickly that Nana Plaza, Sukhumvit, Soi Cowboy and Patpong are where the action is for us foreigners. There's much more to the scene, but KSR is pretty inconvenient for getting to them. Monstrous traffic in Bangkok, remember that, plus a long distance and you're talking about a deal-killer. Probably best to stay in Sukhumvit area.
Another thing: KSR is not what I'd call a pleasant atmosphere. The overwhelming scenes in The Beach picturing the backpacker scene out of control, that's what KSR is like. Rooms there aren't as bad as the prison cell Leo had in that film, but lots aren't much better. If I ever go to KSR, it's just to go in to get what I need (air ticket, souvenirs, etc.), maybe grab a bite to eat, and get out.Thanks man. I appreciate it, now I won't waste my time hanging out there. Cool.
Can anyone please advise where one can find Indian ladies in Bangkok? I'm told there is a very active scene but having lived her for over a year and searched high and low, I have just drawn blanks!
Gentleman,
I came across this website and find the photos of the ladies very desirable. Since I don't read Japanese, I don't know what they are saying about each establishment. There are loads of places.
http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=25
From reading the forum, I gather 'gringos' are not welcome at these places. I have also read that girls that service the Japanese businessmen regularly under perform because the men don't last long & always overpay. Easy work for them.
I am Chinese-American, would I be accepted at these places. Would they be worth it?
Some of these places look like just hostess bars, are the girls still available for f^cking? Any intel would be appreciated.
The place in the link is certainly a hostess bar; looks like it has an hourly fee of 600 baht - that's just to be there and chat with the hostesses, drinks etc. extra. It does also say "yes it is possible to 'date' some of the hostesses outside the bar - ask the mama-san". If you do make it in, looks like deep pockets are the order of the day.
A TBG I once knew, who had an acquaintance who worked as a hostess who worked at one of these places, tried to get me in there once, but even though I speak fluent Japanese, no luck. YMMV.
Can anyone please advise where one can find Indian ladies in Bangkok? I'm told there is a very active scene but having lived her for over a year and searched high and low, I have just drawn blanks!
Since the active Thai scenes were closed in India, Thailand reciprocated by sending the Indians to India. Just in case you find one newly resurrected let us all know.
Can anyone please advise where one can find Indian ladies in Bangkok? I'm told there is a very active scene but having lived her for over a year and searched high and low, I have just drawn blanks!I have never heard of Indian ladies offering themselves in Bangkok. A pity, because often you can see very beautiful Indian girls in MBK and Emporium and other malls.
But I happen to know a few mixed ladies (half Indian) in massage parlours. Try dream massage in Sukh Soi 33, Angels in Soi 26. I forgot their (nick)names.
I have never heard of Indian ladies offering themselves in Bangkok. A pity, because often you can see very beautiful Indian girls in MBK and Emporium and other malls.
But I happen to know a few mixed ladies (half Indian) in massage parlours. Try dream massage in Sukh Soi 33, Angels in Soi 26. I forgot their (nick)names.
Upside down, especially.
I will travel to Bangkok and intend to have some fun with some nice Thai girls. I would prefer an area which is not to busy and noisy, but sill offers a good choice. In some areas the pims are so attractive so there is no fun to look around. Which places do you recommend me?
Cityhopper
06-26-07, 13:07
Spent a couple of days as novice in BKK. Old news for regulars but here I have some recommendations for other newcomers.
Can recommend Grand President in Sukhumvit, Soi 11. Booked through Ratestogo and paid US$ 67/night for an Executive Suite in their Tower 3, opposite (other side of the Soi) the main building. Inclusive of buffet breakfast (which is quite ok). Downstairs German Beergarten bar/restaurant. Hardly or not frequented by girls but good food and German beer. There is a 7/11 nearby open till 2 a.m. (perhaps longer but I didn’t check) that stocks about everything you need for short term survival, including condoms, play gel, beer and booze.
Suite has small kitchenette with large fridge, microwave, cooker, water heater and enough cutlery, plates, glasses etc. for 4. TV and Radio/Casette/CD player. For those who fancy that, on both side of the double bed large mirrors. In any case value for money and absolutely GF, your guest only has to surrender ID on arrival, no looks, no questions asked. Tower 3 has a security guard only, no reception, no walk of shame.
5 minutes walk from Soi 7 with Beergarten. Plenty beer and plenty babes to choose from. No barfine. Going rate Baht 1,500 for ST. Opposite an open air food court with good, tasty and cheap seafood. In same Soi a number of other bars, New Wave has pool tables and good looking girls. From hotel 10 minutes walk to Nana Plaza (barfine in Rainbow 4, second floor Baht 600), 15 minutes to Soi Cowboy. 5 minutes to Thermae Coffee Shop, aka the Temple of Bangkok (near Soi 15 but along Sukhumvit Road). LOL. A pathetic pick up cave which comes alive after 11 p.m. Worth a visit, just to sample the surrealistic scene. I guess you don't pay a barfine here.
Soi 11 has some fine restaurants (a.o. Zanzibar with live jazz music) and plenty of ATMs and money changing outlets. Hotel Ambassador down the road has a few shops accessible from Soi 11, including an Internet café (1 Baht per minute).
In short: excellent location, affordable, comfortable and all the action is within walking distance.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I've seen girls from countries other than Thailand and Russia (former Soviet countries, whatever) in CM2. Indian might be possible there if you're lucky. I'm sure I saw a girl or 2 who seemed to be from East Africa (Ethiopia/Somalia/etc.)
A TBG I once knew, who had an acquaintance who worked as a hostess who worked at one of these places, tried to get me in there once, but even though I speak fluent Japanese, no luck. YMMV.
Actually, the managers of those "Japanese Only" bars would often love to have Farangs as customers. It is their Japanese customers who do not want that, or at least, that is the perception by the owners.
As far as I know, there is nothing much interesting happening in those places anyway. We do not lore much by being barred entry. And many of the newer generation Japanese are more cosmopolitan in outlook, are fed up with overpaying for underperformance by Japanese-style hostesses and venture in the mainstream Farang-orientated areas.
Young female Japanese professionals with their girlfriends typically go on a sex safari in Bangkok and Pattaya and they want to have nothing to do with Japanese style entertainment. Being hooked to muscular young studs, they storm gay bars and behave like if they were in a supermarket, renting out the gogo dancers in bulk for immediate take away. Since many such male dancers are not really gay at all, they welcome the opportunity to make a few thousand baths "on the right side of the fence" for a change.
Seydlitz & Gaienmae:
Thanks for expressing your take on the situation. Not sure if all the places on GDiary are "Japanese Only". I have no desire to spend a lot of money for conversation & a peck on the cheek. I am not a drinker so these "VIP" places where nothing happens do not appeal to me. Do they even give lap dances? :rolleyes: When I stumbled onto that site, I though that it might a monger site that is on our level. For Sao Paulo, Brazil - I use the local forum a lot for intel. They have lovely photos of the girls showing their faces and many are stunning. It shows their measurements, birthday, etc. I just thought it was pretty :cool: But if sessioning with them is prohibitive (money and GFE wise) there is no point.
I like to try different places, different setups . . . trying to stay away from SAME SAME. But always looking for good SEX!
MerryPenguin
06-26-07, 20:48
Sounds like you're from Oz.
In general, I think you can get help with the scene pretty easily (in Pattaya anyway from my experience) Most mongers are friendly and willing to show you the ropes. You just need to know how to spot one & maybe buy a round at the bar :rolleyes: When you are expected to arrive at a certain city, post in the Travel thread and solicit a wingman. ISGers might help you out.Thanks SO much for your fantastic response. I really appreciate it! Yep, I'm another aussie about to be let loose on the young women of se asia. LOL. I don't have a travel plan set at the moment. I'm planning on taking it as it comes and sticking around the places I like best for a bit longer. All I know is that I'll arrive in Bangkok next Tuesday and it all kicks off from there.
Thanks again for your advice
SidTheSexist
06-27-07, 04:46
Young female Japanese professionals with their girlfriends typically go on a sex safari in Bangkok and Pattaya and they want to have nothing to do with Japanese style entertainment. Being hooked to muscular young studs, they storm gay bars and behave like if they were in a supermarket, renting out the gogo dancers in bulk for immediate take away. Since many such male dancers are not really gay at all, they welcome the opportunity to make a few thousand baths "on the right side of the fence" for a change.I certainly want nothing to do with gay bars, but the next time you bump into one of these "young female Japanese professionals," please pass on my contact details! I come with no bar fine and dont even charge for ST :D
Sid
Ah come on, Sid.... go on, get up and dance! ;-)
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