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Thick condoms can be a turn-off. I use extra thin 54 mm ones.Hey ML,
Just wondering what you use and where you get them, cost etc. I also go for the 54mm variety. I am not particularly big by any stretch of the imagination, but I find the 54mm condoms help avoid the "strangulation effect" :) I normally buy the Durex Comfort, but they are nearly twice the price of the other sizes, about 80 baht for a box of 3. Plus most/all 7-11's dont stock them so not as easy to buy at a moments notice.
There are also the ones in the red box (I forget the name but they are strawberry flavoured) but I think they are thicker than the Durex ones so not the best choice.
BTW, I wanted to ask you another question, a while ago you mentioned you once tried (or still use) those Wild tablets. This is something I am in drastic need of, are they available in BKK? Or can you suggest or recommend anything similar? I would be interested in your experiences with them and how well they actually "work".
Of course this query is to the whole forum not only Mick, its just that he mentioned them once in an old post. I am talking about some form of medication which helps to substantially increase the volume of your load basically ;)
Evil Penivel
08-06-07, 18:33
A few questions:
1. People always say you should experience the girls in the club before you take them for a carry out-any thoughts?
I would say the opposite, but then I've had very few in-house sessions at Eden. In almost any situation, I prefer long term to short term. The 90 minute, two-lady in-house session is so intense that it helps to know at least one of the ladies through a previous all-night takeaway. If you are going to come three or four times in 90 minutes, that doesn't allow much time to get to know the ladies.
2. Where they the standard carry out fee? I have to say that 8 hours with those two shag bunnies for the usual fee seems a lot better value than the 90 minutes there.
Thanks
Pete
Yes, the standard takeaway fee is 3,000 baht per lady. For the guys that want 90 minutes of hardcore, porn-star experience, then the in-house session is a good deal. Otherwise, it is better with takeaway.
Evil
NicFrenchy
08-06-07, 18:35
I like Nic Frenchy's style, so anything he tries I am tempted by.Thank you Mick. I really appreciate the compliment.
As for SOL's Experience, I am not (yet) as bold as you were! I have never tried any of the 2 sofas. I like the privacy of the Bathroom.
It's dark and very small in there but I'm way too shy to indulge in public sex.
Excellent reviews by the way ;)
Thanks for that Evil. They look a bit older, but I boned up right away when I saw their pics, sort of sophisticated LBFMs.
A few questions:
1. People always say you should experience the girls in the club before you take them for a carry out-any thoughts?
2. Where they the standard carry out fee? I have to say that 8 hours with those two shag bunnies for the usual fee seems a lot better value than the 90 minutes there.
Thanks
Pete
Artful,
I went to Buenos Aires 2 years ago at Christmas. It was OK but all of the same shit I went away at Christmas to get away from was going on, golf courses closed for 3 days. Non of that in Thailand, business as usual. That,s where I went last year and that's where I am going this year. I like Pattaya myself!
Cactus J
Christmas time is summer holidays for Argentinos, as well for most south Americans, so they go south to Mar de Plata or north to Punta del Este or even to the Brazilian resorts.
On the other hand they are all christians while in Thailand nobody is.
El Greco
When I look at the photo gallery of the Rio Forum, most of the girls in the pics don't look that stunning to my taste.
Are these pics representative or are missing out on the real stunners for some reason?
I seen better looking girls from Colombia and Dominican Repbulic and Brazil in Germany sex clubs than the Rio Photo gallery.
The real stunners of Rio are not working girls (garotas de programma).
They are normal girls hanging out with their boyfriends in the Ipanema and Lagoa area mainly. Although exceptions apply.
In Rio they might have a killer body but not a face to match in most cases, while Colombianas are having a sweet beauty.
For top quality working girls Sao Paulo is the best place.
Porto Allegre and south Brazil is good for European style blondes but with the famous brasilian behind.
I can not commend about Dominicanas. I have never been there.
El Greco
M P Lurker
08-06-07, 21:52
The best play on earth.
When I look at the photo gallery of the Rio Forum, most of the girls in the pics don't look that stunning to my taste.
Are these pics representative or are missing out on the real stunners for some reason?
I seen better looking girls from Colombia and Dominican Repbulic and Brazil in Germany sex clubs than the Rio Photo gallery.
I had a great time with Pla and three other Eden ladies one night about a month ago. It was a takeaway session (10 pm to 6.00 am, but the ladies stayed until noon.... Evil
Geez ... You mean you had four little TG fuck puppies in your bed all at once? I'm an old man and still haven't had two at a time. Guess I have a lot of catching up to do. What a wonderful fantasy. Pla is quite cute for an Eden girl. Congratulations.
Regards,
Daddy
M P Lurker
08-06-07, 23:59
Geez ... You mean you had four little TG fuck puppies in your bed all at once? I'm an old man and still haven't had two at a time. Guess I have a lot of catching up to do. What a wonderful fantasy. Pla is quite cute for an Eden girl. Congratulations.
Regards,
Daddy
Try at least once but preferably a few times so you know too.
Generally 2 girls is overrated unless they really like each other and are not inhibited by the other's presence. Often, the fantasy is better than the reality.
Multiple girls can keep the mouth cock and both hands occupied by pussy but its hard to concentrate on all things at once.
Have one girl suggest some others and then you pick the best of her selections is the way to go. Girls not comfortable with each other is a big disappointment.
Pretend lesbianism doesn't cut it either.
Now if they are true bisexuals and go at each other full on then it can be great.
For porn photos its good to have 2 girls so one can take pictures of you and the other doing something.
I have only been with Eden girls once. They just weren't pretty enough to compete with GF. OK looking bi-sexual girls can be found in some bars, especially if they have full on pussy licking shows.
P.S. Changing condoms to swap girls is a bit of a hard-on dampener, so be in top strength or maybe take a little assisting pill for marathon sex.
Fresh Meat 2
08-07-07, 00:14
In May, my wife traveled to Bangkok with me for the first time. I was a little nervous (running into "old friends" etc. But no way to avoid the trip as it was coupled with a swing through Asia.
The second day there, she announced that she had heard about this neat sounding massage arond the corner from our hotel (Imperial Queens Park) and wanted to go there. (Remind me to gag the bellman.) Well, being a good sport and having no options I could see, off we went.
Things went pretty well when we walked in. The greeter said, "Your first time here? " (wink, wink) and we sat down to make our selections. Wife did ask why the other two guys were taking so much time over their selection of a service person. She asked, "What can they tell about her ability from a picture? " We quickly took the first ones offered, put our stuff in the locker and soon in came the "technicians" and escorted us to the room where we changed into towls and went for the scrub.ly was ready for a surprise and then next door (naturally the wall does not go all the way up and put her finger to her lips (stay quiet, dummy). She grabbed a small towel and motioned for me to bite down on it and hold in my mout
That worked fine and we chatted some as we were in adjacent stalls. She really enjoyed the scrub and salt. Then we went back to the massage rooms (so far so good). We went through the balance of the complete service and finally arrived at the "special surprise". My girl pointed down at what obivoush then proceeded to work her magic. (Thai grils are really innovatave.)
Soon all was done and we met at the locker, paid up and walked back to hotel. All the way, wife chatted about how it was the most complete massage she ever had and how refreshed she felt. I said I sure had to agree with her.From your description Maintaindad the name of this place is Sazanka, a Korean bathhouse that i have frequented on numerous occasions.
I can really recommend this place not only as a place to get the "top knocked off" but also for its massage, the sea salt scrub is simply amazing.
Maintaindad
08-07-07, 00:15
In May, my wife traveled to Bangkok with me for the first time. I was a little nervous (running into "old friends" etc. But no way to avoid the trip as it was coupled with a swing through Asia.
The second day there, she announced that she had heard about this neat sounding massage arond the corner from our hotel (Imperial Queens Park) and wanted to go there. (Remind me to gag the bellman.) Well, being a good sport and having no options I could see, off we went.
Things went pretty well when we walked in. The greeter said, "Your first time here? " (wink, wink) and we sat down to make our selections. Wife did ask why the other two guys were taking so much time over their selection of a service person. She asked, "What can they tell about her ability from a picture? " We quickly took the first ones offered, put our stuff in the locker and soon in came the "technicians" and escorted us to the room where we changed into towls and went for the scrub.
That worked fine and we chatted some as we were in adjacent stalls. She really enjoyed the scrub and salt. Then we went back to the massage rooms (so far so good). We went through the balance of the complete service and finally arrived at the "special surprise". My girl pointed down at what obivously was ready for a surprise and then next door (naturally the wall does not go all the way up and put her finger to her lips (stay quiet, dummy). She grabbed a small towel and motioned for me to bite down on it and hold in my mouth then proceeded to work her magic. (Thai grils are really innovatave.)
Soon all was done and we met at the locker, paid up and walked back to hotel. All the way, wife chatted about how it was the most complete massage she ever had and how refreshed she felt. I said I sure had to agree with her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
NicFrenchy
08-07-07, 05:04
Maintaindad,
Thanks for the Great Review. the Place you visited is Sazanka and the girls there give a most amazing Handjob.
Strange. This is the second time in 2 days that I see a report, someone quotes it, and later it disappears and is reposted at a later time than the quote.
M P Lurker
08-07-07, 11:00
Hey ML,
Just wondering what you use and where you get them, cost etc. I also go for the 54mm variety. I am not particularly big by any stretch of the imagination, but I find the 54mm condoms help avoid the "strangulation effect" :) I normally buy the Durex Comfort, but they are nearly twice the price of the other sizes, about 80 baht for a box of 3. Plus most/all 7-11's dont stock them so not as easy to buy at a moments notice.
There are also the ones in the red box (I forget the name but they are strawberry flavoured) but I think they are thicker than the Durex ones so not the best choice.
BTW, I wanted to ask you another question, a while ago you mentioned you once tried (or still use) those Wild tablets. This is something I am in drastic need of, are they available in BKK? Or can you suggest or recommend anything similar? I would be interested in your experiences with them and how well they actually "work".
Of course this query is to the whole forum not only Mick, its just that he mentioned them once in an old post. I am talking about some form of medication which helps to substantially increase the volume of your load basically ;)
Yes I use Durex Comfort when Aussie ones run out which are called "Ansell Lifestyles Ultra Thin" and made in Japan. $10.99 for a box of maybe 20? or maybe was $12.99 (I can't remember things like this other than to et the BIG box).
Durex Comfort is available at most Seven11 stores in Sukhumwit or Silom but not so much in non-bar areas.
Germany has them called "Geschellschaft" or something similar.
You can't afford 80 Baht for a box of 3??? Then you can't afford to pay for a fuck either! Perhaps try Nigeria. Might get a girl for a week for $10 or totally free.
The Wyld tablets appeared to increase sperm volume but were far too expensive for you.
Sorry I'm getting sarcastic now but the price of a condom just isn't something I ever worry about. Life is too short.
M P Lurker
08-07-07, 11:05
Strange. This is the second time in 2 days that I see a report, someone quotes it, and later it disappears and is reposted at a later time than the quote.
I think the forum may be having some time zone issues.
I don't recall editting my very short comment about Rio Girls unless returning back through several layers of windows did something to it.
You can't afford 80 Baht for a box of 3??? Then you can't afford to pay for a fuck either! Perhaps try Nigeria. Might get a girl for a week for $10 or totally free.
The Wyld tablets appeared to increase sperm volume but were far too expensive for you.
Sorry I'm getting sarcastic now but the price of a condom just isn't something I ever worry about. Life is too short.Hey easy there big fella... :) I never said I couldn't afford them, I only made the observation that they are nearly twice the price as the other Durex ones. The Family Marts do tend to stock the Comforts, as do the pharmacy type places generally however I haven't had much luck finding them in many 7-11s. As for Nigerian women, well they say the darker the berry the sweeter the juice, but this is something I hope never to find out personally. Not my type at all... but to each their own as they say.
Anyways, sarcasm not withstanding, I would still appreciate the info about the aforementioned tablets, especially where to buy them in BKK if they are available etc, as well as your experiences.
Thanks in advance.
In May, my wife traveled to Bangkok with me for the first time.
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Soon all was done and we met at the locker, paid up and walked back to hotel. All the way, wife chatted about how it was the most complete massage she ever had and how refreshed she felt. I said I sure had to agree with her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Maintaindad, good report and thanks for it.
Isn't that the MG of your wife gave her a towel too to bite and....... so she got out of the session very happy?
Maintaindad,
Thanks for the Great Review. the Place you visited is Sazanka and the girls there give a most amazing Handjob.NicFrenchy,
Yep, Sazanka can still be recommended.
Giotto
Yes I use Durex Comfort when Aussie ones run out which are called "Ansell Lifestyles Ultra Thin" and made in Japan. $10.99 for a box of maybe 20? or maybe was $12.99 (I can't remember things like this other than to et the BIG box).
Be aware that those "Ansell" brake very easily.
It happened to me twice in Brazil and I threw away a lot of them afterwards.
There were 12 in the packet.
El Greco
Mr Enternational
08-08-07, 04:01
Some of us have the opposite problem more often. Too tight or too short or her uterus is barely 3 inches from the opening. These girls are inpain or damaged easily.
That is how I have managed to get many freelance freebies. They just can't take it for long and would rather leave with nothing than endure the pain. I am not heartless though. When I know they are serious and not just trying to game then I will give them 300 baht to cover a few meals.
Mr Enternational
08-08-07, 04:47
Maintaindad,
Thanks for the Great Review. the Place you visited is Sazanka and the girls there give a most amazing Handjob.
Location and price list please?
MarcoStraight
08-08-07, 06:21
When I look at the photo gallery of the Rio Forum, most of the girls in the pics don't look that stunning to my taste.
Are these pics representative or are missing out on the real stunners for some reason?
I seen better looking girls from Colombia and Dominican Repbulic and Brazil in Germany sex clubs than the Rio Photo gallery.
This is what you can get in Rio with 200 reais (100 US $) :
http://www.riosexsite.net/index2.asp
.
NicFrenchy
08-08-07, 08:18
Location and price list please?Sazanka Massage
29/14-15 Sukhumvit 22 (Washington Square)
Klongton, Wattana, Bangkok 10110
0-2663-4245
12:00 noon ~ 11:30 pm
Website: none
If you want a price list, you can contact them and they'll fax it to you.
Can i know where is RIO?
Kiasi: after exiting Soi 6, head south to the coast line, keep on going through Malacca peninsula, down to Singapore, get on a boat (a container ship should be easy to find) to South Africa and in J'burg switch to another boat sailing nortwest toward South America.
That is the shortest way to have good chances to end up in RIO (de Janeiro, Brazil) where they use REAIS $ to pay for each and everything, from food to girls and normal life needs.
Was just kidding, but indeed if you read carefully the guy refers to spending REAIS, so RIO is not a new club in BKK....but simply that huge city in Brazil.
Have a nice day!
Unknown9398
08-08-07, 11:57
Rio is Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
Mr Enternational,
Sazanka as been widely discussed in the Bangkok massage parlors section. Just RTFF and you get all you need. Just do the effort.
John Euro
Wife did ask why the other two guys were taking so much time over their selection of a service person. She asked, "What can they tell about her ability from a picture? " We quickly took the first ones offered, put our stuff in the locker and soon in came the "technicians" and escorted us to the room where we changed into towls and went for the scrub.
Is your wife really that naive that she doesn't know what men go to massage parlors for?
Maintaindad
08-08-07, 18:20
Is your wife really that naive that she doesn't know what men go to massage parlors for?Yes she is and I am just delighted with it that way.
Bionicman
"J'burg switch to another boat sailing nortwest toward South America"
Finding a ship bound for Rio in Jo'burg would be a good trick! ;-)
LittleBigMan
08-09-07, 02:21
Mr. Enternational
Go back to the Bangkok massage thread, and you will see a report by Giotto, on Massages and their price and location.
MAte,
I know RIO is not a club in BKK. But i am a Asian, and never been to brazil. So just wonder where is RIO, thinking another LOS nearby. haha.. But about 30 hours flight from my country malaysia.. just forget about it... hahaha
Kiasi: after exiting Soi 6, head south to the coast line, keep on going through Malacca peninsula, down to Singapore, get on a boat (a container ship should be easy to find) to South Africa and in J'burg switch to another boat sailing nortwest toward South America.
That is the shortest way to have good chances to end up in RIO (de Janeiro, Brazil) where they use REAIS $ to pay for each and everything, from food to girls and normal life needs.
Was just kidding, but indeed if you read carefully the guy refers to spending REAIS, so RIO is not a new club in BKK....but simply that huge city in Brazil.
Have a nice day!
NicFrenchy
08-09-07, 05:05
Please guys,
Cut the Rio Crap here. this is the Bangkok Forum.
If you want to talk about Rio, go to the Brazil Forum.
M P Lurker
08-09-07, 10:28
Be aware that those "Ansell" brake very easily.
It happened to me twice in Brazil and I threw away a lot of them afterwards.
There were 12 in the packet.
El Greco
I don't believe they break easily if properly used.
That means lube gel required and keep them away from fingernails, vaginal sponges or any other sharp or abrasive or high friction objects.
M P Lurker
08-09-07, 10:37
This is what you can get in Rio with 200 reais (100 US $) :
http://www.riosexsite.net/index2.asp
.
2 problems.
1. That web site shows a lot (but not all) of ball shaped silicone rock hard tits like "Posh".
2. Advertising is one thing but where are the pretty girls in the Photo Gallery Forum for Rio (not that stunning to my taste). I'm refering to real experiences rather than fictitional ones. However the Thailand Photo Gallery does have some real pretty girls occasionally depending on who took the photos and whether their taste matches mine. I remember NCBJ4Me was relaible in showing good looking girls, for example, but has been away a lot recently.
Perhaps georgeous Rio girls don't want guys to take their picture.
AsiaTraveler2
08-09-07, 10:38
I don't believe they break easily if properly used.
That means lube gel required and keep them away from fingernails, vaginal sponges or any other sharp or abrasive or high friction objects.
Mick,
Some of the woman I have been with, would qualify as high friction objects!
AT2
2 problems.
1. That web site shows a lot (but not all) of ball shaped silicone rock hard tits like "Posh".
2. Advertising is one thing but where are the pretty girls in the Photo Gallery Forum for Rio (not that stunning to my taste). I'm refering to real experiences rather than fictitional ones. However the Thailand Photo Gallery does have some real pretty girls occasionally depending on who took the photos and whether their taste matches mine. I remember NCBJ4Me was relaible in showing good looking girls, for example, but has been away a lot recently.
Perhaps georgeous Rio girls don't want guys to take their picture.1. That may be, I am not a silicone connoisseir like you, but the Rio pics forum seems to have a much higher percentage of purely mamma given twins of the jumbo size than the Thai pics forum. Based on only about 8 pages of looking at Rio pics, & many more of TGs here. BTW, I don't know how I am, at times, able to see the photos, not being a paying member. But it was a positive influence in my decision to visit LOS, since till that time I had only seen pics from another site that were not attractive even though their photographer claimed that TGs were beautiful.
2. I have to agree, based on the forum pics I've seen, that TGs are prettier than those in Rio. And slimmer. On the other hand I'll take the tits & bums of the latter over the former. It isn't only this forum where I've seen some with a preference for Rio over LOS, after trying both, and I can see why. But my next trip will be to Bangkok.
Coma,
As Traveler mentioned I had an incident with 3 of them about a block up from the Westin Hotel where there is a pedestrian overpass. Makes kind of a tight passage where the steps go up to the overpass.
I gave the one who tried for my wallet a 250 lb kiss on his cheek. His two buddies gave it another thought as I pulled out a pepper spray that I carry as I was planning to dust them off with that. That is the only incident I have ever experienced in BKK or anywhere in Thailand for that matter. Could be a problem if you are drunk as they would have a real advantage on you.Can you legally buy pepper spray in Bangkok? I believe US & Canadian authorities would not permit you to have it on the plane.
M P Lurker
08-11-07, 07:51
1. That may be, I am not a silicone connoisseir like you, but the Rio pics forum seems to have a much higher percentage of purely mamma given twins of the jumbo size than the Thai pics forum. Based on only about 8 pages of looking at Rio pics, & many more of TGs here. BTW, I don't know how I am, at times, able to see the photos, not being a paying member. But it was a positive influence in my decision to visit LOS, since till that time I had only seen pics from another site that were not attractive even though their photographer claimed that TGs were beautiful.
2. I have to agree, based on the forum pics I've seen, that TGs are prettier than those in Rio. And slimmer. On the other hand I'll take the tits & bums of the latter over the former. It isn't only this forum where I've seen some with a preference for Rio over LOS, after trying both, and I can see why. But my next trip will be to Bangkok.
I think we have found the problem.
I don't judge girls by the size of their silicone enhancements. I do appreciate very nicely shaped tits be they A cup to D cup. I rate girls by face first, particularly liking cute little upturned nose on a narrow rather than round face, then slimmness and curviness, and then shape of bum, and finally by tits, (whoops I forgot smile and persoanlity).
I think guys who prefer Rio may be going for a different type of girl, e.g. big tits, big bums, etc. I have no doubt that their are many stunners in Rio, its just the photo gallery seems sub-standard to my taste.
I do however particularly like the lips of Brazialian girls. They seem to be the juicest to kiss in the world. The Portugese influenced nose shape is not quite my favourite.
On the other hand their are many stunning girls from all over the world working in Germany, including from Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, etc., but the photo gallery is virtually non-existent. Photos must be really frowned upon there.
One Thai girl working in Germany however let me take any picture whatsoever, no matter how explicit. Didn't even try to hide her face.
Said she really wanted me to remember her. She wasn't in the stunning bracket however.
Thai girls are above average looks in my opinion. However each day in Thailand I probably only see one to 3 girls sufficiently stunning to distract me from my GF for a moment.
So not a massive number of stunners but quite a high percetage that guys would put in the "do-able" category.
In my home counry Australia I can find some great looking girls (mostly with recent OS ancestry) but most are less than 25 so well out of my reach.
Overall doable Aussie gilrs that are not asian are quite few.
However Thai girls less than 25 for mongering are not out of my reach and have a much better attitude.
Gents,
What is a decent place to get a Thai theme tattoo in BKK?
Also what are the prices compared to US or UK?
Evil Penivel
08-12-07, 03:29
Geez ... You mean you had four little TG fuck puppies in your bed all at once? I'm an old man and still haven't had two at a time. Guess I have a lot of catching up to do. What a wonderful fantasy. Pla is quite cute for an Eden girl. Congratulations.
Regards,
Daddy
I had four, but the record is 21, set maybe five years ago. There's a photo in the Eden Club of the guy who did it and I've included a photo of the photo. I've also included a photo of the contents of the famous session bag that accompanies all Eden ladies, whether inhouse or on all-night takeaway.
Evil
Russell Crowe
08-12-07, 03:33
I have had terrible luck with girls from Nana. The ones I have chosen have been terrible in bed even if their attitude at the bar seemed nice.
I decided to try a theory and see if there was any relation to how the girl dances, to how she is in bed. I chose a somewhat cute girl who could really dance. We seemed to click as I bought her a drink and danced with her. I bar fined her and took her back to my place where I put on some music and she danced very sexily and grinded on me. Then, I moved her to the bedroom where she proceeded to be possibly the worst F I have ever had. She first tried to jerk me off by jackhammering my dick with her hand, not fun. Then she undressed and just layed there. I tried to get her wet before having sex, but it was a chore as she really seemed inexperienced and not into it.
I am thinking perhaps I will just not go to Nana. I have had better luck at Cowboy and massage parlors. However, I will be here for a while and am interested if there is something I am missing in Nana. Or am I just unlucky?
Thanks,
RC
Evil Penivel
08-12-07, 14:53
Hi Evil Penivel,
Wooow 21.....what did he do....is he still alive ?
Do you have more pictures of Eden club ?
.
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I have no idea who he is, but I heard from the Eden manager he's doing fine. I posted some pics of Eden ladies (Pla and Wa) here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628732&postcount=4023).I've attached a few more from inside and outside the club.
I only post identifiable pictures of the ladies who explicitly agree to have their photos on the Net. In the picture of the line-up, the girls are all wearing "yellow-line" T-shirts and facing the wall, neither of which they normally do. The yellow line divides the Eden ladies who offer anal service from those who don't. The ones who provide anal stand to your left as you face them.
Based on what I've read here and on other forums, some guys make the mistake of not calling for a line-up when they go to Eden. They are apparently under the impression that only the ladies who are visible in the bar are the ones available. That's on rare occasion true but not generally. Many more ladies will usually appear from outside the bar area when the line-up is called.
Also, too many guys have judged Eden solely on the basis of the ladies who sit outside. Thing is, it's often the maids at the club who sit there as well. Other support-function ladies (the ones who do the girls' nails or hair and deliver food) will also on occasion sit there). In the picture I took outside the club, three of the ladies are Eden club providers, two aren't.
Bottom line: Always call for a line-up if you visit Eden.
Evil
M P Lurker
08-12-07, 17:03
I have no idea who he is, but I heard from the Eden manager he's doing fine. I posted some pics of Eden ladies (Pla and Wa) here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628732&postcount=4023).I've attached a few more from inside and outside the club.
I only post identifiable pictures of the ladies who explicitly agree to have their photos on the Net. In the picture of the line-up, the girls are all wearing "yellow-line" T-shirts and facing the wall, neither of which they normally do. The yellow line divides the Eden ladies who offer anal service from those who don't. The ones who provide anal stand to your left as you face them.
Based on what I've read here and on other forums, some guys make the mistake of not calling for a line-up when they go to Eden. They are apparently under the impression that only the ladies who are visible in the bar are the ones available. That's on rare occasion true but not generally. Many more ladies will usually appear from outside the bar area when the line-up is called.
Also, too many guys have judged Eden solely on the basis of the ladies who sit outside. Thing is, it's often the maids at the club who sit there as well. Other support-function ladies (the ones who do the girls' nails or hair and deliver food) will also on occasion sit there). In the picture I took outside the club, three of the ladies are Eden club providers, two aren't.
Bottom line: Always call for a line-up if you visit Eden.
Evil
Evil,
You always seem like too nice a guy to have the name "Evil" I think you must have redefined the word to only mean "very naughty".
I have fantasies about doing multiple girls but at my age numerous changes of condoms between girls usually interferes with my hard on, so while I have gone down on (tongue is never ever tired) and fingered 3 girls at a time, I have never fucked more than 2. So even 4 is quite impressive.
Strangely, sex with others watching doesn't bother me much.
I guess it would help if all the chosen girls were so close and sexually into each other, that they wouldn't require the condom changed between girls. Straight out of one and straight into another would work a lot better for me.
54mm easy put on condoms does help somewhat as they are not quite so tight. I know some guys are not affected by this problem at all.
Evil & Mick,
I sure do envy you dirty old dogs for all your multiple poo-ying adventures. My simple fantasy is to be rimmed and blown at the same time by two pretty girls to a CIM or COF finish. I imagine this arrangement would most likely be avaliable at Eden Club, right? And I think one or more mongers have mentioned this would be for the asking at Akane as well.
I'm also wondering if I could have two girls working together on dick and balls, culminating in two satisfying pops at Lolitia's for 1400b, which is the base price for two girls, or whether I might be expected to pay more for such services? Does anyone here have experience with this kind of debauchery?
Regards,
Daddy
AsiaTraveler2
08-12-07, 21:13
evil & mick,
i sure do envy you dirty old dogs for all your multiple poo-ying adventures. my simple fantasy is to be rimmed and blown at the same time by two pretty girls to a cim or cof finish. i imagine this arrangement would most likely be avaliable at eden club, right? and i think one or more mongers have mentioned this would be for the asking at akane as well.
regards,
daddy
daddy,
eden yes, but akane highly unlikely. most fs, bj with cim or cof finishes have come at the peep inn, when it comes to the akane girls. most will stick with the program. at least in my experience. of course, in most cases, i end up in the massage rooms on premises, which definitely only allow massage with jel and the hj finish.
eden would meet your requirements.
at2
The Corn Hole
08-12-07, 21:15
When I look at the photo gallery of the Rio Forum, most of the girls in the pics don't look that stunning to my taste.
Are these pics representative or are missing out on the real stunners for some reason?
I seen better looking girls from Colombia and Dominican Repbulic and Brazil in Germany sex clubs than the Rio Photo gallery.
I don't think it's fair to judge the beauty of the Rio girls by the majority of the photos in the Brazil section. Those pics don't do justice to what Rio has to offer. Sometimes I scratch my head and wonder what some of these guys are thinking. The same is true with the Thailand photo gallery as well. There are many pics of TGs I wouldn't even fuck for free, but I know there are many, many beauties to be had in Thailand.
If you want to see a collection of real attractive Rio working girls just go to Centaurus. This is a clip joint unfortunately, but I promise you your jaw will hit the floor the first time you visit. Brazilian girls are more passionate and wilder in bed than the more shy, introverted Thai girl, which is why I think Thailand is a tad overrated and is a notch or two below Brazil.
I also fully agree with El Grego that the non pros in Rio are super hot. It's the main reason I've been studying portuguese every day for well over a year now. :)
AsiaTraveler2
08-12-07, 21:26
Brazilian girls are more passionate and wilder in bed than the more shy, introverted Thai girl, which is why I think Thailand is a tad overrated and is a notch or two below Brazil.
As another poster suggested, let's move on. This is a BKK thread. I have been to both places and BKK is my preference. That's why I am active on this thread and not the other. Passionate and wild behavior in bed, is most often an act and please see Tawan's post number 4101, if you want to get a better idea of what the girls are thinking. It's an exchange between two Rio P4P girls with the bottom line, how many fucks a day they can get and the dollars they will earn. You get real passion from someone who likes you and it's not something that can be measured by how wild she acts.
For debates/discussions on best places for the hobby, there's a thread for that. This is not my board, so Jackson will have the final say, but my vote is for posts about BKK in the BKK thread. Makes more sense to me.
AT2
I am planing a visit to Eden in 2 weeks time and as I wll arrive to Bkk on Sunday I would like to know if any fellow member can tell me if Eden is open on Sundays?
Thanks
Cheers
Barek
AsiaTraveler2
08-12-07, 22:11
I am planing a visit to Eden in 2 weeks time and as I wll arrive to Bkk on Sunday I would like to know if any fellow member can tell me if Eden is open on Sundays?
Thanks
Cheers
Barek
Barek,
All of the P4P venues are open 7 days a week, with very few exceptions (National holidays .. maybe). I have never found any of the P4P venues closed on any of my visits to BKK. This includes Eden.
Have fun.
AT2
LittleBigMan
08-12-07, 23:55
You got to give credit where the credit is due! This guy must have been a cage animal for years before heading to Eden! I still remember 2 things as it was yesterday the week before I was to be released. How good it was going to be to smell the sea and fog again and the need to get laid!
Five years ago as I was going to turn 50th, I set a goal for myself when I made a stop in Hong Kong, China, and finally Thailand that I was going to try to tag 50 pussies for my Birthday during my trip. Halfway towards my goal LBM, had ran out of fuel! But I did make it to Eden for my first twosome!
Prior to arriving, I decided to get my money worth, so for the first and only time I purchased some viagra and decided to cut it in half (50mg) waited for it to kick in before walking to Soi 7/1 from Nana. For a guy who likes to wear boxers I couldn't keep LBM down during the walk to and into Eden. But in the end LBM got rim, licked, while watching it all on the ceiling mirrors. Just with 2 was a lot of work. How this guy managed is beyond me!
Give the man a standing ovation!
The Corn Hole
08-13-07, 01:23
You get real passion from someone who likes you and it's not something that can be measured by how wild she acts.
AT2
I was willing to forego any further comments on this subject but I have to respond to this. This above quote is a very elementary point and really goes without saying here. Of course this is true, but it's far easier to get a brasileira to like you than a TG in my opinion. Yes the primary motivation for a GDP is money but alot want to get enjoyment out of their work as well. Many want to get themselves off in the process. I don't think the same is true for Thais though. Whether one believes Brazilian pros are acting 100% of the time with 100% of their clients is debatable, the fact is there is some doubt there. With Thais there can be no doubt what they are about. They are about money and little else. It's very obvious what makes them tick. They're more transparent than Brasileiras in this regard in my opinion.
Regarding the post from Tawan, yeah I read it and the content didn't really suprise me. It just further reinforces what I've always believed which is that prostitutes sell sex for a living, but given the choice they would rather hang with someone who they're attracted to. The comment from one of them - "imagine spending all that time with that old guy and not getting much money out of him" speaks volumes.
BTW, I don't really give a toss if they're faking it all or not. When I pay money for a show I would rather pay to see some great acting rather than bad acting.
Also, too many guys have judged Eden solely on the basis of the ladies who sit outside. .
Evil
I feel the need to respond to this. If you are going to advertise for your friend just say it. Stop telling us that the girls are good (in looks) at Eden. They are not. And don't tell me that we aren't seeing the best , becasue the best is a 5 if you live in Asia.
Barek,
All of the P4P venues are open 7 days a week, with very few exceptions (National holidays .. maybe). I have never found any of the P4P venues closed on any of my visits to BKK. This includes Eden.
Have fun.
AT2For info, I was in Bangkok on Monday 30th July and noticed that Eden was closed in the afternoon (and from a distance it seemed that Soi Cowboy was dark and closed). Most other places were open.
It was a public holiday (but I can't remember which one). I called my favourite lady at Tulips (very nice...) to see if she was working, and she happily came in to see me. I took her for a meal after to say thanks. Most other girls at Tulips had a holiday.
AsiaTraveler2
08-13-07, 03:24
I feel the need to respond to this. If you are going to advertise for your friend just say it. Stop telling us that the girls are good (in looks) at Eden. They are not. And don't tell me that we aren't seeing the best , becasue the best is a 5 if you live in Asia.
HK Dog,
Evil Penivel seems like a nice enough guy, who enjoys what Eden has to offer. Attractive is a subjective issue. He likes the girls and obviously others do too. Eden is still in business and thriving in it's own niche. You don't survive as a business, if you don't have a following. I don't think his posts are that of a shill.
If you want a threesome, that's the easiest venue to fullfill this desire. I would say, if you want a stunner, look elsewhere. But he has never said the girls are stunning. He has posted photos, so everyone can determine for themselves. I think his views have been fair.
Just my opinion.
AT2
I am planning a trip to BKK in a few weeks and would like to get some tips on safe places to watch live shows. I have been to Supergirls in Pat Pong and one ore two places. They were okay. I have also managed to go in to a few places that rip me off. Anyone have ideas on where to go?
Also I would like to watch more explicit shows (Girl/Boy). Haven't seen that in BKK?
Anyplace with audience participation?
I also tried After Shool/ Fannys in Soi Cowboy and liked getting a BJ in public there. Any other places like this?
He may be a great guy but look at his postings. Close to 50% have to do with Eden or its sister club Hell in Pattaya.
If one was cynical you can imagine he may be a great customer of Eden and may have worked out a deal for getting cheap fucks at Eden for advertising on this site.
Eden does have its special niche. I do acknowledge that. However its niche market if properly defined would not shed a good light on its regular customers.
He may be a great guy but look at his postings. Close to 50% have to do with Eden or its sister club Hell in Pattaya.
If one was cynical you can imagine he may be a great customer of Eden and may have worked out a deal for getting cheap fucks at Eden for advertising on this site.
...
Hk Dog,
Hmmm, Evil obviously likes Eden, but he contributes great reports to the Thailand forum - did you read this one?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=625922#post625922
I would be very happy if we had more reports like this from other posters in the forum!
I furthermore think, that the Eden Club doesn't need any more promotion - the place is well-known amongst the monger community and has lots customers. Marc has more the problem how to keep up with the number of customers and their demands.
Giotto
If he likes the look of the girls at Eden, he is entitled to his opinion and you to yours.
If we want to rank people in terms of quality contributions, Evil is going to be near the top of most people's lists
I'll be in Bangkok at the end of the month. Is there any thing fun around the Montien Riverside Hotel? I'm in a tough spot too because I can't bring any one back to my hotel room so is there any place around the hotel I can go find some action?
I am all for people telling stories of their experiences. However, when a place is artificially blown up I am going to speak.
You guys constantly use the phrase 'Eden is a place to satisy your fantasies' such as a threesome.
How many people have fantasies with girls rating a 4 or 5 in them?
Of all the places in BKK to get your nuts off, why does the one that has one of the least attractive girls getting so much attention?
I am all for people telling stories of their experiences. However, when a place is artificially blown up I am going to speak.
...
Of all the places in BKK to get your nuts off, why does the one that has one of the least attractive girls getting so much attention?Hk Dog,
Tastes are different, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I (and I think I speak for many) will really appreciate your upcoming reports about alternatives to Eden, with attractive girls for your taste.
Giotto
PS: This discussion is the best promotion the Eden Club can ask for :) .
I can tell you my experience of Eden Club. I have stepped foot inside about 8 times over the past 9 yrs and have run out immediately. I live in Asia and have only ONE friend who enjoyed it. He is a bit of a freak though in terms of his tastes. Lets just say he'll put his dick in a corpse if noone is looking. I have 20+ friends who have done the same experience as I did.
The repeat clientele of Eden is of a particular genre. I will not spell out the attributes of the typical customer but I have no problem with them enjoying themselves.
I only have a problem in them selling the place for more than its worth.
Reread Evil's last posting. He was implying that the girls get a bad rating because the average punter doesn't get to see the whole lineup. That is the issue I take offense at. Just tell the truth. The service is great but quality is low.
NicFrenchy
08-13-07, 09:28
I only have a problem in them selling the place for more than its worth. Drop it. You've made your point and now you start to be irritating.
We get it, you don't like Eden.
Some of us have had great Experiences there, does that mean we are all Liars?
Move on. If you're going to open your mouth, then write a Real report about it instead of a few 4 liners.
Just my 2 cents about eden Club
I have been there probably 6 times and I would say the service has always been perfect , the girls are below average in quality but they are pro's
I will recommend this place specially to any newbie who are a bit afraid to enter in our hobby, this is a great for experience , and one thing about the place , it is 100% safe ,you will not get riped off, no risk, you will get washed , sucked , you can play, resucked , fucked, rimmed, etc..
The girls will not refuse CIM , or play usual tricks, they will not ask for more money, they will do anything you want as long as it is not crazy and sick stuff.
You will exit the place with always a smile and totally satisfied.
I will be in BKK next week and will of course revisit the place with pleasure
I also like young beautifull girls where sometimes beautifull does not means always good service,
Denis
Silly Fool
08-13-07, 12:51
HK Dog,
Evil Penivel seems like a nice enough guy, who enjoys what Eden has to offer. Attractive is a subjective issue. He likes the girls and obviously others do too. Eden is still in business and thriving in it's own niche. You don't survive as a business, if you don't have a following. I don't think his posts are that of a shill.
If you want a threesome, that's the easiest venue to fullfill this desire. I would say, if you want a stunner, look elsewhere. But he has never said the girls are stunning. He has posted photos, so everyone can determine for themselves. I think his views have been fair.
Just my opinion.
AT2
I can see why HK has a bee in his bonnet-everyone here knows Evil is a big fan of the Eden club and most of his ( entertaining) reports are about Bangkoks menage -a -trois specialist .But that lineup pic captured my attention so i opened up the closeup of the lovely lass smiling for the camera unabashedly. She is an 8 in looks IMHO. Im only sorry I got there at 11.00am in the morning last January with my love sick, sook of a mate .I now realise the chunkylegged fives and sixers in little black dresses were WG,s from Eden having a little sustenance at the outside tables at the next door bar. Thanks for the pics, Evil- the issue should be dead and buried now.
Barek,
All of the P4P venues are open 7 days a week, with very few exceptions (National holidays .. maybe). I have never found any of the P4P venues closed on any of my visits to BKK. This includes Eden.
Have fun.
AT2Eden was closed for two days at the beginning of the Buddhist Lent, that was the 29 and 30 of July. There was a notice pinned to the door and there were quite a few farangs with disppointed faces. I know this personally as I hung out at the joint right next door, The Ring.
Jeremy
He may be a great guy but look at his postings. Close to 50% have to do with Eden or its sister club Hell in Pattaya.
If one was cynical you can imagine he may be a great customer of Eden and may have worked out a deal for getting cheap fucks at Eden for advertising on this site.
Eden does have its special niche. I do acknowledge that. However a niche market if properly defined would not shed a good light on its regular customers.Come on, HkDog, be fair. Evil has contributed a number of posts but I don't think he writes exclusively for or about Eden. So what if it's 50% ?( He can be amusing at times. I especially enjoyed the post on buying trinkets for the girls.) It only shows that he's strongly fascinated and enjoyed the experiences provided by the club or more accurately, its girls.
Then again, It's extremely disparaging to accuse him of " making a deal" ( has anyone seen anything underhanded?) and passing a remark like " a niche market if properly defined would not shed a good light on its regular customers". What is wrong with mongers enjoying themseives in threesomes? This IS a forum for mongers, for heaven's sake. If criticisms are to be made, then let them be constructive.
My two bahts worth.
Jeremy
SidTheSexist
08-13-07, 15:19
I had four, but the record is 21, set maybe five years ago. There's a photo in the Eden Club of the guy who did it and I've included a photo of the photo. I've also included a photo of the contents of the famous session bag that accompanies all Eden ladies, whether inhouse or on all-night takeaway.EvilEvil, I love your reports of Eden and Hell. I cant understand why these nobs have such a problem with you!?!?!? Anyway, was I the only one who noticed your name (alias) in the pic "photo.jpg"?? :D
Cheers
Sid
Keep it up!!! literally!! :D
". . . the attributes of the typical customer . . ."
Please go on.
I can tell you my experience of Eden Club. I have stepped foot inside about 8 times over the past 9 yrs and have run out immediately. I live in Asia and have only ONE friend who enjoyed it. He is a bit of a freak though in terms of his tastes. Lets just say he'll put his dick in a corpse if noone is looking. I have 20+ friends who have done the same experience as I did.
The repeat clientele of Eden is of a particular genre. I will not spell out the attributes of the typical customer but I have no problem with them enjoying themselves.
I only have a problem in them selling the place for more than its worth.
Reread Evil's last posting. He was implying that the girls get a bad rating because the average punter doesn't get to see the whole lineup. That is the issue I take offense at. Just tell the truth. The service is great but quality is low.
AsiaTraveler2
08-13-07, 16:29
". . . the attributes of the typical customer . . ."
Please go on.
Billpsu,
Please read HK Dog's other posts and I think you will get the idea.
AT2
He may be a great guy but look at his postings. Close to 50% have to do with Eden or its sister club Hell in Pattaya.
If one was cynical you can imagine he may be a great customer of Eden and may have worked out a deal for getting cheap fucks at Eden for advertising on this site...
Hk,
Even if your wild and speculative imagination were true, and Evil was in fact a shill for Eden, (which is extremely doubtful IMHO), he is still perhaps the best writer on this board, telling the most interesting stories, and his contributions are much appreciated by me as I have learned a great deal from him. (And his photo of Pla was cute too.) For my part, I wish he would tell us more tales about Eden. Eden and Hell Club are like Fantasy Islands to me.
Regards,
Daddy
In May, my wife traveled to Bangkok with me for the first time. I was a little nervous (running into "old friends" etc. But no way to avoid the trip as it was coupled with a swing through Asia.
The second day there, she announced that she had heard about this neat sounding massage arond the corner from our hotel (Imperial Queens Park) and wanted to go there. (Remind me to gag the bellman.) Well, being a good sport and having no options I could see, off we went.
Things went pretty well when we walked in. The greeter said, "Your first time here? " (wink, wink) and we sat down to make our selections. Wife did ask why the other two guys were taking so much time over their selection of a service person. She asked, "What can they tell about her ability from a picture? " We quickly took the first ones offered, put our stuff in the locker and soon in came the "technicians" and escorted us to the room where we changed into towls and went for the scrub.
That worked fine and we chatted some as we were in adjacent stalls. She really enjoyed the scrub and salt. Then we went back to the massage rooms (so far so good). We went through the balance of the complete service and finally arrived at the "special surprise". My girl pointed down at what obivously was ready for a surprise and then next door (naturally the wall does not go all the way up and put her finger to her lips (stay quiet, dummy). She grabbed a small towel and motioned for me to bite down on it and hold in my mouth then proceeded to work her magic. (Thai grils are really innovatave.)
Soon all was done and we met at the locker, paid up and walked back to hotel. All the way, wife chatted about how it was the most complete massage she ever had and how refreshed she felt. I said I sure had to agree with her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Thai girls love Falang women.
I bet your wife had the same great massage you did.
If I were you I would ask her about it.
Perhaps you could then explore with another women together.
LittleBigMan
08-13-07, 22:50
The more we talk about Eden the more promotion Eden gets. I 110% agree with NicFrenchy!
What HKDog don't seem to understand since he continue's down the same path of his own opinion. Everyone has reponded that he has his right but what he doesn't seem to take in is the other opinions that for every 20 people like him that run out there are 20 that stay and have fun. When it comes to quality once again it is in the eye of the beholded. You heard many times " another mans trash is another mans treasure ".
I seriously doubt you will find many stunners that will do the things that the girls do at Eden. If you do! more power to you! I'm happy for you! But if you want slam bang, good time, and don't want to hunt in the heat and don't care about the price then Eden is the place.
The last few photo by Evil, had me thinking that you pretty much have to be a regular in Eden to spot those 2 girls. Be back to Bangkok in a few weeks and with all this talk, I might just drop by again!
LBM
I am all for people telling stories of their experiences. However, when a place is artificially blown up I am going to speak.
You guys constantly use the phrase 'Eden is a place to satisy your fantasies' such as a threesome.
How many people have fantasies with girls rating a 4 or 5 in them?
Of all the places in BKK to get your nuts off, why does the one that has one of the least attractive girls getting so much attention?
HK...
Seems we have encountered each other over in the HK forum and had a similar debate regarding the filippinas in HK.
I understand that you get off on model types, and I think most others understand that too. But, understand that others get off and enjoy other qualities.
FWIW, I have enjoyed our exchange in the HK forum and your contributions there (and have found them informative).
My take on the Eden is that it is worth a visit every time I am in BKK as it is a unique and erotically enjoyable experience.
LittleBigMan
08-14-07, 00:57
To the guys that live in Bangkok!
Fellas, need some help here! Been trying to find a map of Bangkok that would locate a road name - Ratchawithi Road - Bangkok, 10400, Thailand.
Anyone know whether I can get to this road by the metro system above or underground from Nana area?
Thanks, LBM
I understand that you get off on model types, and I think most others understand that too. But, understand that others get off and enjoy other qualities.
FWIW, I have enjoyed our exchange in the HK forum and your contributions there (and have found them informative).
My take on the Eden is that it is worth a visit every time I am in BKK as it is a unique and erotically enjoyable experience.
Everybody is missing my point. Maybe Softy will understand this comment. There is a go go bar in HK called Club Romance where you can get most anything you want sitting there at the bar sipping a beer. The service is excellent but ALL mongerers who frequent the place would NEVER NEVER say that the girls are attractive (They are all Thai btw).
I have been to that bar many a time and would recommend it to others who just want a quick release. However I would never lie and tell others the girls are attractive and if they did find them unattractive , tell them they didn't see the full lineup.
And to the others, yes, with a tiny amount of work it is easily possible to get the same service as Eden girls and have model looks. Its BKK afterall.
Sean_Double
08-14-07, 02:03
To the guys that live in Bangkok!
Fellas, need some help here! Been trying to find a map of Bangkok that would locate a road name - Ratchawithi Road - Bangkok, 10400, Thailand.
Anyone know whether I can get to this road by the metro system above or underground from Nana area?
Thanks, LBM
Yo LBM,
Yes, no problem, you will see Ratchawithi Road on this map. It is a major road.
http://www.bangkok-thailand.org/thailand/bangkok/prplanbk.htm.
You can take the Skytrain from Nana and go to the Victory Monument stop. Ratchawithi from there will be the road that goes in the direction of the river.
Cheers,
Sean
NicFrenchy
08-14-07, 04:41
Let's say there is a member in the Bangkok Forum Brainfarting and Polluting, how does one put this dog on "ignore"?
NicFrenchy,
There is no need to be militant about it. Believe me I've got thousands of stories of mongering in Asia about me and my friends. I just am hesitant about posting them in a public forum. My stories are classics and much better than what I read in that crappy Bankgok Stories (or equivalent) book they sell at the airport bookshops.
You might not like my opinion but it is based on alot of experience from low to high end that others might find useful.
You are being a hypocrit in denying me my right to an opinion because it counters your opinion.
Guys,
time to calm down a bit...
I know that some places tried to copy Eden, with not that much success. I would be interested to know whether there is a place in Bangkok which provides the same professional and well organized service as Eden does, and may have a "different" (let's be diplomatic) selection of ladies.
I don't know such a place.
Giotto
NicFrenchy
08-14-07, 08:59
NicFrenchy,
You are being a hypocrit in denying me my right to an opinion because it counters your opinion.HK Dog,
I am not denying you your right to an opinion, in any way. I am just irritated by the redundancy of your posts. You made your point with your first post, no need to intervene 3 times a day to remind us about what you alerady wrote.
Besides, you put in doubt the opinion of a valued and trusted member of the forum, publicly calling him a "liar", this in my books is totally immoral adn unethical.
Hi,
I am heading to BKK this October [first time] and I would like the down and dirty rundown of where to go, where to stay, and how much to pay. I realize all this info is here somewhere, but I really tire of having to sift through all of the bantering going on here. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.
Jrotten
LittleBigMan
08-15-07, 03:33
Thanks Sean_Double, for the information.
NicFrenchy,
I'm getting to the point like you that this guy just don't get it! Time to sign off before I say something I regret. Even if he agree's he just goes on and on the the EverReady battery!
I have not been to this place myself.Poseidon Club. My Aussie friends who have good taste as a rule loved the place.They said it has 2 or three levels with lots of movie star lookers. Sounded like an elaborate soapie with nice music and entertainment.
My pals said the treatment was 2 hours or so and was about 3 thousand baht. Any of you guys been there? I'd like to try something different than Eden.last time I walked by Eden the girls looked kind of tired out.
NicFrenchy
08-15-07, 07:21
I would be interested to know whether there is a place in Bangkok which provides the same professional and well organized service as Eden does, and may have a "different" (let's be diplomatic) selection of ladies.
I don't know such a place.Hi Giotto,
You probably have heard (or even sampled) Bangkok Sisters?
They are (obviously) direct competition to Eden, but they do not Guarantee the services. Eden Proudly guarantees ALL girls are bisexual, offfer BBBJ and the list is long. They also Guarantee Customer Satisfaction: You do NOT pay if you are not happy. How better a guarantee can you get than that?
The only positive thing I would see about Bangkok Sisters, is their special package : 15,000 thb for 10 sisters (usable in a 9 month period), that's 5 sessions so it comes to 3,000 per session. Pretty cheap. BUT, quality and services not guaranteed.
http://www.bangkoksisters.com/index.html
I have tried Eden only on 2 occasions (not really my thing as I prefer "one on one" sessions) and maybe I'll go see Bkk Sisters, and report about it.
NF
I know that some places tried to copy Eden, with not that much success. I would be interested to know whether there is a place in Bangkok which provides the same professional and well organized service as Eden does, and may have a "different" (let's be diplomatic) selection of ladies.
I don't know such a place.
GiottoSome people apparently just dont get it, and thats fine. It just means that those of us who do get it will have more choice and less waiting time when we go to Eden. In Evil's defence, I dont think I have seen any of his numerous postings on this and other forums where he claims the women are any hotter than they really are, or that they fit his interpretation of beauty. His reports have always focused on the service ethic as well as his personal experiences.
He also has a certain artistic license which he uses brilliantly to paint a mental image to accompany his tales. Some of his reports make for excellent reading, and the one experience he reported about his night with Thumper and her friend which included the trip to the night market is a noteworthy example.
I find that most people who knock Eden are the ones who havent actually experienced it, they are the ones who as reported before only walk by or stick their heads there for a few minutes. It is actually quite rare to read a report on an Eden session where the person has not enjoyed it - yes I am sure these have happenned but they seem to be very much in the minority. The management would not have the money back policy in place if they didnt believe in their product. I am sure they dont get many punters asking for their refund, and probably most of their clientele are repeat business.
Anyways, for those who knock Eden, you are entitled to your opinions of course, but maybe try it once (or a few times) before trying to convince the many on here who know better.
ApplePolish
08-15-07, 10:16
Hi There,
I am writing this sitting on livingstone. Was in bangkok for business last few days and extended my stay by a day.
Hoping to get some good ladies to castle tonight. Yesterday went to Posiedon for a massage. One easy way is to ask the cabbie to drop you at Hotel Grand on Soi 17, which is the lane alongside posideon, you can walkup 50 mts, corssing copa cabana.
Went to the fish bowl and ordered a drink. There was a good selection of girls 30-40, all shapes, age and size. The only thing i miss in a massage place which you get in a bar, is the fact that you need to base you decision on looks and not on a discussion. If someway this can be done, then the massage experience would win hands down against go-go's, beer gardens etc. Anyways, the girls are divided into 3 catagories 2500, 2700, 3000. Picked up a cutie for 2700 and off we went. Girls was good looks 8/10, attitude was missing though. She refused a BBBJ, which was a huge let down. However, my earlier experience in Darlings was much better. Anyways i still believe if there is something that needs to be tried in Bangkok it's the massage experience.
I plan to attack the Livingstone sports bar tonight, followed by monet and if i don't get something decent head towards Soi Cowboy.
Anyone in livingstones today? Would be happy to meet and team up.
Cheers/Apple
M P Lurker
08-15-07, 11:13
Looks like the Forum has been restored from backup?
Or perhaps the Posts are queueing for moderator's review?
Then again I receieved and answered a PM yesterday.
Today it was back on the unread queue.
Looks like the Forum has been restored from backup?
Or perhaps the Posts are queueing for moderator's review?
Then again I receieved and answered a PM yesterday.
Today it was back on the unread queue.
Yes, most of yesterday's posts are gone, including two of mine. Something untoward must have happened during backup. How about it, Jackson?
NicFrenchy
08-15-07, 15:34
Or perhaps the Posts are queueing for moderator's review?I hope that's only that. I wrote a mile long review yesterday and I hope it's not lost :(
NicFrenchy
08-15-07, 15:44
The only thing i miss in a massage place which you get in a bar, is the fact that you need to base you decision on looks and not on a discussion. If someway this can be done, then the massage experience would win hands down against go-go's, beer gardens etc. Apple,
See? this is where reading this Forum is actually very valuable. You could have improved your Experience by a factor of at least 2 by having screened a bit better.
You can have a drink with the ladies. Just ask the Papasan to call out the girl from the Fishbowl, buy her a drink and chat with her. If you do not like her personality, send her back to the FB and ask for another girl. (repeat the same until you find the one you are comfy with)
Simple isn't it?
NF
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You probably have heard (or even sampled) Bangkok Sisters?
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NicFrenchy,
have ... feedbacks are not so positive.
You did not show up for a beer up to now, you bastard :) !
Giotto
AsiaTraveler2
08-15-07, 17:11
I have not been to this place myself.Poseidon Club. My Aussie friends who have good taste as a rule loved the place.They said it has 2 or three levels with lots of movie star lookers. Sounded like an elaborate soapie with nice music and entertainment.
My pals said the treatment was 2 hours or so and was about 3 thousand baht. Any of you guys been there? I'd like to try something different than Eden.last time I walked by Eden the girls looked kind of tired out.
Rider7,
All the Soapie establishments are reviewed in the massage parlor thread. Don't ask me why, since a massage is really non-existent there. It's at the top of the list, but there are others. It's better to post the question on that thread. I posted a response on the massage parlor thread.
AT2
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Anyone in livingstones today? Would be happy to meet and team up.
...ApplePolish,
Yes, I am here :) !
Giotto
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The management would not have the money back policy in place if they didnt believe in their product. I am sure they dont get many punters asking for their refund, and probably most of their clientele are repeat business.
I can only rely on a 1-time experience in EDEN about 1 year ago.
This was a positive one with even a 1st choice girl about an 8-9 as I remember. Her 2nd choice was 1.5 grades down.
However I can’t imagine that there is any refund actually paid as Marc’s SOP (Standard operation Procedure) regarding service definitely is incorporated in the girls.
When I went out with the usual smile I had to honestly admit to his question that I tried but couldn't find a reason to ask for refund.
Marc just hit the perfect setup regarding 'product', service, price and employe satisfaction etc.
We should admit and shouldn't be jealous about his success. That this probably cant be done with a straight lineup of 10's should be knowledge of every monger with 'starfish' experience.
Regarding a perfect business, I see only Giotto with his Livingstone setup who has in my eyes created a different, but similar perfect balance of product, service and price, creating another 'icon' for LOS.
It was a Livingstone Girl, my lovely Miss J, who unintentionally prevented me from my scheduled visit by emptying every remaining fluid before I could have spent it in Eden.
regards
Brain666
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Only Giotto with his Livingstone setup could come close to that perfect balance.
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Brain666,
Yikes, you do not really want to compare Eden and Livingstone's? I think that Marc and me really run completely different businesses.
We even do outcalls for Eden girls for our customers here ... the Eden service CANNOT be provided from the ladies working in our bar. Of course, there are exceptions, if the chemistry between girl and customer matches.
Here, at Livingstone's, the customer has to WORK HARD to make the girls happy :) ! The opposite business model from Eden.
Giotto
AsiaTraveler2
08-15-07, 17:32
Billpsu,
I think our posts disappeared. You had a question regarding Soi 33. It's called the Artists Soi, because several bars are named after famous artists such as Renoir, Van Gogh, etc. There are also other bars that have not followed the theme and also several massage places like Teen and the well known Akane establishment. Livingstones Lodge is on that Soi and you can probably stop by and pick Giotto's brain for more info! LOL!
The prices in most of the bars are more than double (1,500 baht barfine vs 600 baht for NEP). The girls are dressed better, the higher prices means no crowds, and a less rushed experience. While the girls are dressed better, this does not mean they are better. I have seen a few top notch girls there. Some speak little to no english.
Worth a look and you can determine if it's for you.
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
08-15-07, 17:36
Brain666,
Yikes, you do not really want to compare Eden and Livingstone's? I think that Marc and me really run completely different businesses.
We even do outcalls for Eden girls for our customers here ... the Eden service CANNOT be provided from the ladies working in our bar. Of course, there are exceptions, if the chemistry between girl and customer matches.
Here, at Livingstone's, the customer has to WORK HARD to make the girls happy :) ! The opposite business model from Eden.
Giotto
Giotto,
I think Brain meant similar in the most broadest sense. Both you and Marc strive to have an environment that has your customers leaving satisfied with services provided, even though the "services provided" are in two very different arenas.
AT2
Giotto,
I think Brain meant similar in the most broadest sense. Both you and Marc strive to have an environment that has your customers leaving satisfied with services provided, even though the "services provided" are in two very different arenas.
AT2
AT 2 you brought it exactly to the point. Sorry Giotto if it confused you. Edited a little for clarification.
We are talking about completely different business setups here of course.
The only parallelism I see is that 'product, service and price balance' is well adjusted.
This leaves customers well satisfied and repeating.
Regards
Brain666
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The prices in most of the bars are more than double (1,500 baht barfine vs 600 baht for NEP). The girls are dressed better, the higher prices means no crowds, and a less rushed experience. While the girls are dressed better, this does not mean they are better. I have seen a few top notch girls there. Some speak little to no english.
...Asia Traveler2,
The barfines differ a lot now here in Soi 33. Some bars take THB 1,000.00, the Office Bar THB 800,00. The traditional hostess bars (Renoir, Monet) more. Livingstone's has 3 rates: THB 1,500.00 before 11 pm, THB 1,000.00 until 1 am. Afterwards THB 700.00.
Giotto
AT 2 you brought it exactly to the point. Sorry Giotto if it confused you. Edited a little for clarification.
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Brain666,
Don't worry - I think I WANTED to misunderstand your report a bit :) ...
Giotto
This weekend (Sunday) the Thais decide about their new constitution. Usually we expected that we cannot sell alcohol on Saturday night, sometime the ban is even extended to Sunday night during elections.
Funnily - everything is different with this referendum. Our friends from the police just visited us - no problem to sell alcohol Saturday and Sunday. Everybody who was worried - this weekend will be business as usual in all bars in Bangkok.
The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS:
It is somehow hard to believe. I will verify the information.
Giotto
NicFrenchy
08-15-07, 18:41
You did not show up for a beer up to now, you bastard :) !
[Blushing] Yes I know, Sorry LOL. I will definitely be in the Lounge Saturday! it's a date! (I hope you are open? knowing Sunday is election day).
If other ISG Members are up to it, then let's meet at the Sports Bar Saturday?
Evil Penivel
08-15-07, 23:28
I don't usually take part in fights on ISG or any other board. On the occasions I do, it is almost always in response to an attack. Even though HK Dog said very unpleasant things about Eden and my posts, I didn't respond, mainly because others were making the same points I would and I didn't want to fan the flames.
But since he said I lie and implied strongly that I have an ulterior motive for posts - financial gain - I'll make this one response here. If there is a need for more, I'll put it in the fight thread. I don't want to clutter this thread with bad-karma banter.
The substance of HK Dog's posts is that he went to Eden eight times and didn't see any ladies he found attractive. I have been to Eden many more times than eight and saw numerous ladies I found attractive.
What's strange or controversial about that? Where's the problem, except maybe in the mind of HK Dog?
On this board, on every other board, hundreds of guys disagree daily on which girls are pretty and which aren't. True and false or right and wrong have nothing to do with it. It's all based on subjective opinion. HK Dog seems to assume his own interpretation of the 1-to-10 scale is universal, when it is obviously not.
Some guys like younger women, others older. Some want petite ladies, other prefer tall or big girls with meat on their bones. Some like wild girls, other want them demur. Long hair or short hair; big breasts or small; light-skinned or dark-complexion, it's all just a matter of personal preference.
Moreover, I posted pictures of two Eden ladies I find attractive. Some guys will agree with me, some won't. But what basis does HK Dog have for saying that I lie about the appearance of the ladies of Eden? I find Pla and Wa attractive and he doesn't. Does that make me a liar?
Secondly, HK Dog also seems to assume the sole criterion for choosing a partner or P4P establishment is the physical appearance of the ladies. The level of service, the personalities of the ladies, the convenience and security of Eden are as important to me as the ladies' looks. Their ability in English is another make-or-break factor for me and some of the Eden ladies speak better English than any other P4P providers I've met in Thailand.
The charge that a poster is praising an establishment for commercial reasons could be raised about anyone. Nothing can be proved one way or the other on an Internet forum. It would be just as logical and valid for me to say that HK Dog is getting paid by a competitor of Eden to bash it. However, that's a ridiculous path to go down and I would have as much proof for my allegations as he has for his - none at all.
And to the others, yes, with a tiny amount of work it is easily possible to get the same service as Eden girls and have model looks. Its BKK afterall.
Instead of knocking my posts, why don't you write a post describing how you do this? Please give the details of exactly where you find these ladies and include pictures - I'm sure everyone would like to see examples of your stunners.
Evil
Evil, I enjoy your posts.
don't bother lowering yourself, you are doing just fine !
I don't usually take part in fights on ISG or any other board. On the occasions I do, it is almost always in response to an attack. Even though HK Dog said very unpleasant things about Eden and my posts, I didn't respond, mainly because others were making the same points I would and I didn't want to fan the flames.
Evil
I see some narly photos, and goofy babble at ISG but I am just glad that people are enjoying the p4p venues instead of accepting the boring alternatives forced down their throats back home. It troubles me when I see people lash out at others for going bagless, posting uglies, or looking green. I DO try to coach them on not getting scammed or inflating the prices. i've been going there since the 70's and started the p4p in the late 80's and 2 of my favorite girls of all time was a pair my pal and I had at Eden about a year ago. We took them home for the evening as they were so talented, and pleasant. I can't imagine having a bad experience at Eden.
Imready777
08-16-07, 02:48
As someone who only visited BKK twice I can safely say Eden was perhaps the most memorable experience (as I said in the report I posted back then). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and my first choice at Eden was very attractive in my eyes, with her second choice a few levels lower. But the combination of attitude and service provided by those two would be hard to match anywhere. So although looks usually come first I think we all soon realize there is a lot more to it! And if you really don't like what is on offer at any establishment it's simple - just leave. I too would imagine it is hard to leave Eden disappointed.
Why don't you guys take Giotto's wise advise?
I realized early on when I joined this site I would be of the minority view since most here on not in the same category as me. Let me explain. My observation over a decade of living and working in Asia comes to this conclusion. There are basically 4 groups of mongerers and each have different views and opinions and stereotypes.
1) The Young Buck
This is the guy in his 20's who is either travelling for a long time or an English teacher. The stereotype is that they are still in the mode of 'I don't pay for it' but usually end up doing so in a much worse way. I usually find these guys are with girls that are far below the looks that they should be getting.
2) The business traveller
Everybody has been or knows this guy. He is usually focused on mongering and will have a tendency to overbid the market. Sites like this are a gold mine for him
3) Long time working resident of Asia
This is me. You are in paradise for such a long period you become extremely jaded when it comes to looks. What other groups might find stunning you find ordinary because you just see it so much. I joined this site in the hope that there is something out there in Asia that I have been missing out on. A bar or club that I for some reason have never come across that was mentioned on this site in Asia.
However this jadedness is often rewarded by finding something just when you thing there could be nothing better.
4) Retiree
These guys are having the times of there lives and why not. They left behind fat ugly white women who nag them. They are the gold at the end of the rainbow for most WG's and the 'King' treatment they get is overwhelming. To be honest, they are not going to dabble in the top 1% of the market but that doesn't bother them as it shouldn't.
These 4 groups have very varied goals and criteria and it will always be difficult to get a consensus on any issue.
Hk dog has made some good points. I fall into a different catagory. Early fifties and look younger. I was really serious about a Thai girl once many years ago, and it never came to be. 2531 to be exact. 20 years ago. When I ride the BTS I look out over Bangkok and try to imagine where she is and what she is doing now.
I'm so spoiled from my trips to Asia. Recently I was at a party here in Canada and some late 40 woman I was chatting with said that she has a special contempt for men who go to Asia. This is the attitude of the women here towards us. I try to date them, try to get into it. But as soon as they start laying on the attitude, I'm out of there.
So I work and look forward to my next holiday to Thai. There I feel happy and have so many good times with younger women. Its too late for me to bring anyone home. I just leave my heart at the airport. Pick it up when I leave. Just my 2 cents.
I realized early on when I joined this site I would be of the minority view since most here on not in the same category as me. Let me explain. My observation over a decade of living and working in Asia comes to this conclusion. There are basically 4 groups of mongerers and each have different views and opinions and stereotypes.
1) The Young Buck
This is the guy in his 20's who is either travelling for a long time or an English teacher. The stereotype is that they are still in the mode of 'I don't pay for it' but usually end up doing so in a much worse way. I usually find these guys are with girls that are far below the looks that they should be getting.
2) The business traveller
Everybody has been or knows this guy. He is usually focused on mongering and will have a tendency to overbid the market. Sites like this are a gold mine for him.
3) Long time working resident of Asia
This is me. You are in paradise for such a long period you become extremely jaded when it comes to looks. What other groups might find stunning you find ordinary because you just see it so much. I joined this site in the hope that there is something out there in Asia that I have been missing out on. A bar or club that I for some reason have never come across that was mentioned on this site in Asia.
However this jadedness is often rewarded by finding something just when you thing there could be nothing better.
4) Retiree
These guys are having the times of there lives and why not. They left behind fat ugly white women who nag them. They are the gold at the end of the rainbow for most WG's and the 'King' treatment they get is overwhelming. To be honest, they are not going to dabble in the top 1% of the market but that doesn't bother them as it shouldn't.
These 4 groups have very varied goals and criteria and it will always be difficult to get a consensus on any issue.
Mr Enternational
08-16-07, 08:03
[Blushing] Yes I know, Sorry LOL. I will definitely be in the Lounge Saturday! it's a date! (I hope you are open? knowing Sunday is election day).
If other ISG Members are up to it, then let's meet at the Sports Bar Saturday?
What time? My flight doesn't arrive until 11:40 that night.
NicFrenchy
08-16-07, 08:49
What time? My flight doesn't arrive until 11:40 that night.Not sure how late, but I'll be there! I am going to treat myself with a soapy before (most likely Cupidy, and yes, I will report on it).
See ya Saturday I hope.
Giotto, it's a date, Saturday it is, I'll be there for sure.
NicFrenchy
08-16-07, 08:55
(I posted it a few days ago but it must have been lost along with the few post that vanished that day. Here it is again)
This report is part 3 of my "Day full of Hormones"
You can read Part 1 & 2 below:
Part 1: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=630437&postcount=2543
Part 2: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=630736&postcount=2545
Already quite tired from my visits to Thonglor2 and Euro Massage, I still managed a visit to Soi Cowboy. I called my Friend and we agreed to meet at 22:00 in front of Baccara.
It's been a long time since I had a drink in SC and I wanted to do a Round of the Bars, see if anything has Changed.
I arrived Soi 23 @ 21:30, I am very early and decide to hit one of the two bars before you hit Soi Cowboy. I think it was Twins Bar or something close to it.
Had 30mn to spare and the ladies outside Albeit below average in looks offered a 75thb beer deal (by now, the happy hour is over on SC), I decided to have a beer.
I was immediately attacked by a "smell" (I guess a mix of Cold Tobacco, Sweat, Body odor, Farts), the lingering stench disappeared after a few minutes (once my nostrils adjusted to it). 2 ladies followed me inside. One young and one Older, the older one was by far the most daring of the two, fondling my balls with one hand and trying to squeeze my nipple with the other; I did not really care for that and with all the action from earlier in the day, my cock did not respond to the rubbing. The older lady told the other something and next thing you know, the lady (older one) attempts to kiss me (or French-kiss) but as I moved away, she got pissy and left (I don't blame her since she just got rejected). That left me with the younger one, a solid 5, all blushy and shy. I attempted to make small talk, make her comfortable but I could see she was not very interested. All she kept asking is if I was going to "pay bar" for her. I found this quite amusing that this Bargirl would even consider the fact that I could barfine her, she was below Average in looks, conversation and Attitude. I paid for my beer and left.
I am sure the girl will be barfined, around 2h30 or 3 am, when all the drunks will have no other choice (well, that's if you assume the Ladyboys are out the equation).
I make my way to Soi Cowboy and see my Friend chatting up a Baccara hostess, we exchange handshakes and walk inside.
The hostess he was chatting with followed us and sat beside him. We ordered beers and a LD for her, clinked glasses and my eyes started to wander around, like an eagle (or vulture) in search of fresh comestible meat.
The ladies downstairs were not very energetic, even when I had prolonged eye contact with a girl she did not dance or smile. Just some boring 2 stepping around the Poles. Few ladies were chatting at the entrance and some were looking in our (or most probably "my") direction, the ladies were not to my taste so I did not give any signal that I was interested; my eyes started to look up and a few girls were really kicking it. 3 energizer bunnies dancing away on the Glass Floor. We were seated in the back downstairs so it was virtually impossible for me to make eye contact with one of the upstairs girls.
I told my friend I was going upstairs and he nodded (he looked very interested in that hostess of his), I quickly went up the flight of stairs and found a seat in the little vestibule Area (which was empty, at this early hour). The waitress approached but saw I already had a drink so she left me alone.
A little girl (very little) went from the Dance floor to the table where I was seating, she danced in front of me and kissed me on the cheek. I asked her to sit down. Forgot her name but she was very lively and seemed to have a big chest for a lady her size. I bought her a drink and asked her about it, she giggled and told me that they were real, I must have looked a little surprised because she took my hand, unbuttoned her shirt and put it on one of her breast. One cannot be sure anymore (with the new Technologies and all) but they felt damn real, soft yet firm, good size nipples and they were more than a handful. She started to rub my dick, kissing me and, needless to say, I was in love (or at least in lust).
Had 2 drinks with her and we decided to leave Baccara to try another bar. My little girl wanted to come along but I told her that I was going with my friend alone. She looked disappointed but I made her a deal: I would hit Baccara before I go home if I don't find another girl, and if she is still there, I will barfine her. She asked why I can't barfine her now so that when I come back she will be waiting for me. Sounded like a fair deal and I hated the idea of not finding anyone, coming back to Baccara to see her gone.
I talked to the mamasan and explained that I was barfining her but she would stay until I come back (basically she would stay in the bar and continue earning money for the place). I paid the 600thb mamasan asked for.
++ I know some of you guys are going to be jumping left and right because I barfine a girl that I'm not even sure I will take, well so be it. 600thb for me was a cost that I deemed I could afford to let go of in the case where I found a better girl ++
My friend wanted to go to Long Gun, I don't really care for this bar but what the hell. We enter and sit down, order drinks and are soon joined by 2 girls. Not really to my liking so we gently tell them that we would like to be alone. They don't seem to get the message and stick around, we try and ignore them, same same, they stay glued on their seats. My girl (well, the one on my side) asks for a lady drink, I repeat to her that I am not going to get her any drinks and she pouts but stay put. What to do? Does one have to be rude to make some of these girls understand? I am not inclined in playing her little game so I really ignore her, call another girl over and buy her a drink. The girl reluctantly gave up her seat to the new one but stayed right beside us, mumbling. It sort of amused me and as much as I would have loved to make fun of her, or tease her, I thought better of it (surely it is not easy to go through what these girls go through on a daily basis).
We did not stick around too long in LG as the talent was not very appealing.
Rawhide was the same, just a whole lot of Plain Janes.
My Friend wanted to go to Midnite Bar but as I hate this place, we decided to part ways. He has a regular girl there so he likes the place. I find the mamasans and girls to be rude and pushy.
I went to Jungle Jims. Good old Jungle Jims.
The girl I see sometimes there is nowhere to be seen and not less than 4 girls come sit with me. A little overwhelming (to me anyways) so I send 3 packing and stay with the hottest of the lot. She has a very nice face, A cups and a curvy ass. She sits beside me, orders a drink and starts to play with my little fella, offering me one of her titties to suck on.
Unlike the other girl from Twins Bar, this time, the rubbing starts to get me hard and I think the ladies sitting across also notice the bulge in my pants as they are cheering my girl to continue.
I can't take any more of this and decide I want to fuck her!
The mamasan wants to charge me 300BF+300Room.
I politely ask her to wave the Barfine and that I will take drinks upstairs. She agrees.
My girl asks me if I would like to have also another girl join us. As horny as I am (still), I refuse and tell her it'll be just the two of us. She smiles and takes me upstairs.
Not a very nice Room but enough to make the deed.
Lady was very good at giving BBBJ, I did not even think about trying to DATY (she gets fingered so many times a day). She took her time and screwed me in almost every position she could think of, but I could not shoot. She resumed her BBBJ and balls sucking and I eventually came in her mouth, she continued the BBBJ long after I was finished and ensured I had no more juice inside. What a Champion she was! And the feeling was great.
Got her 1000 + 300 tip. She was very happy and asked me to come back see her again.
Total Bill: 2,480 (ALL inclusive).
Surprisingly, my friend was still sitting in Midnite (with his regular honey) and was not far from making a move (read: going home to bang her). She was already dressed (read: barfined) but wanted to go dancing before hitting the sack. He clearly wanted to go home. She pressured him, pouted, sighted, shrugged and he finally gave up. She wanted to go somewhere on new Petchabury.
I found the whole situation funny, he as the customer could not impose his will to the "service provider" he has just purchased. Of course he could have put his Foot down and drag her home, but this is Thailand and these situations happen everyday. These girls wait for a "Good heart" Farang to take them around, provide entertainment and money. Does it give them the illusion to be a "normal" girlfriend? I don't know. Or maybe their Thai Boyfriends don't take them dancing?
Anyhow, I see my friends eyes get lively again and he says: "why don't you get that girl from Baccara and we all go dancing together?"
I am spent, I am not sure I have the power to dance (let alone fuck) anymore, but seeing my poor friend almost begging (his eyes can't lie) I agree to join.
Hop into Baccara and my girl is talking to a Farang who bought her a drink. I just give her a wink and she excuses herself, goes to change, comes back and we all leave.
I am sorry for the poor Farang that was buying her a Drink (s) and I did not even want to ask her if she told him she was already barfined when she approached him. I can't be bothered to worry about another guy's feelings since the whole situation is not really my fault: I paid her Barfine so I should be entitled to take her out.
We went dancing, stayed for about 30mn and I brought the Little Energizer Bunny Home. We did not discuss Price or Length of Stay (ST or LT).
When we arrived in the apartment, I was already under strong alcohol influence and did not want to sit and Chat with another glass of liquor. We went to shower and then on to the bed.
She tried her best to get me hard that night but failed miserably. I explained to her that I went to 2 massage and had lot of sex today so it was not really her fault, I just needed to recharge my batteries.
She went to sleep in my arms and I felt her come and Cuddle a few time in the middle of the night.
In the morning, she gave me a Superb GFE session (although she was very active in bed). I gave her 3k and she seemed very happy with that.
She showered, left and I went back to sleep. I felt tired and I think I will need a few days to recover from this whole day of Mongering!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
AsiaTraveler2
08-16-07, 10:30
3) Long time working resident of Asia
This is me. You are in paradise for such a long period you become extremely jaded when it comes to looks. What other groups might find stunning you find ordinary because you just see it so much. I joined this site in the hope that there is something out there in Asia that I have been missing out on. A bar or club that I for some reason have never come across that was mentioned on this site in Asia.
However this jadedness is often rewarded by finding something just when you thing there could be nothing better.
LOL! You do remind me of another popular poster on ISG. Guy#2! I think if you just loosen up a little, just learn to have fun all of the time instead of some of the time, you might just find yourself a little less jaded. Most of us see the world in much broader terms, people as individuals not categories. We see the entire world, not only Asia. We see woman on many levels, not just looks. My first venture into Eden, I too felt like walking out. Where we part ways, is I decided to stay and I had a great time.
I'm not saying you should change. Live your life. Just don't expect us to think the same way you do. If only one of your 20 friends differs from the group, I view it as a lack of diversity and not a plus as you do. I love stunners too and many would consider me picky. I just don't limit myself to only the superficial things and I keep an open mind.
I get the sense that you are in a position, where you have a lot of "yes" men in your life. You have people agreeing with you all the time and you are not happy when others don't fall in line with your thoughts. Unfortunately or fortunately, many on this board are very successful and have as much experience in Asia as you do. We have our own opinions and are confident and stand by them. We don't need someone telling us how it should be. We get you. We understand what you are selling, we just are not buying.
I think where you went wrong, is your attack on EP. Attractive is an opinion, with no right or wrong answer. Implying he was lying or is a shill, was over the line. Especially considering the number of very good posts he has had beyond just Eden. Let's get back to reviews and sharing information and get away from judging others tastes/opinions. Let's talk to each other not down to others.
Just my opinion.
Peace,
AT2
NicFrenchy
08-16-07, 10:41
There are basically 4 groups of mongerers and each have different views and opinions and stereotypes.Interesting post. Nothing new, but a good basis for discussion.
From what you chose as your 4 groups, I would think that you forgot the group that probably consists of the majority of Mongers: the Sex Tourist, (no matter what age) who comes to Thailand for the Pussy (and temples, sometimes).
3) Long time working resident of Asia
This is me. You are in paradise for such a long period you become extremely jaded when it comes to looks. What other groups might find stunning you find ordinary because you just see it so much. Sorry to disagree again. You would be correct if one was to assume beauty was only based on outer appearance. I have slept with Model types here in Bangkok and also regular Bar girls, bottom line is, I had more fun with the Bar Girls. I, by far would prefer a jovial girl who would appreciate my company (most probably a GFE) rather than a Plastic Model with an attitude (and most probably a Starfish).
Also, I think that people who have lived in Asia for a long time aren't looking for the "Model" types but rather girls who will show them a GREAT time. Models are more in demand with the "Businessmen" type mongers.
This of course is my own opinion.
M P Lurker
08-16-07, 10:42
Apple,
See? this is where reading this Forum is actually very valuable. You could have improved your Experience by a factor of at least 2 by having screened a bit better.
You can have a drink with the ladies. Just ask the Papasan to call out the girl from the Fishbowl, buy her a drink and chat with her. If you do not like her personality, send her back to the FB and ask for another girl. (repeat the same until you find the one you are comfy with)
Simple isn't it?
NF
Another point is that with a fishbowl, you don't have to decide immediately. I spend time studying the girls facial expressions. Its amazing what can tell about a girl by watching her face.
I don't make many mistakes in fish bowl selection at all, and talking to a girl doesn't improve the undersatnding of how skilled she is in sexual moves.
The big danger of taking a while to decide, is that someone else will call the girl's number first. This once caused me to miss out on a super girl until the very last day of my holiday.
Unfortuantely at Eden, you are expected to choose a girl from the line-up very quickly and with little or no chat first. This is too rushed for me. I can't really suss out a girls character at all under this sort of pressure and girls are too ordinary to my taste. So hence I don't visit Eden, but may try again one day by trying to chat to the girls if they can be bothered and not calling for a line-up at all.
M P Lurker
08-16-07, 11:37
I realized early on when I joined this site I would be of the minority view since most here on not in the same category as me. Let me explain. My observation over a decade of living and working in Asia comes to this conclusion. There are basically 4 groups of mongerers and each have different views and opinions and stereotypes.Look I am in the fussy minority also but it doesn't worry me at all.
I am a category 2 Monger but with touches of type 3 influence.
Like you, mostly I am looking for "Princesses" (non Royalty), not just ordinary girls. Occasionally I might divert to a super-wild experience.
But Superior Thai girls like polite kind-hearted gentlemen who don't have to be that great looking.
So I would like to introduce to completely different scales for rating Mongers.
The first scale has super-polite gentlemen (possibly influenced by the Thai culture) at one end of the scale ; and at the other-end, agressive arseholes.
By the way I once went to Hong Kong and hated it in comparison to Thailand due to the super-urgent super-aggressive approach of the locals (some of them) who appeared to have no manners/politeness whatsoever (perhaps I exaggerate - its a long time ago now).
I know myself well. I am not in the super-polite category, I can be rude at times when under pressure (not always intended), but am always thinking of improvement here.
Another scale is the kind-hearted guy who treats all Thai girls that he desires with consideration, respect and fairness. At the other end of the scale we have the "black-hearted" guys who just wish to use the girl as a sperm resceptical and treat her most contemptuously. Finally they try to avoid paying the agree price and send her away with bottom smacked for daring to question the fairness of their treatment.
I cringe at the way some mongers talk to girls in the Nana Car Park and can see how much the better girls there despise these nitwits. This is only an example of a place where can accidentally overhear mongers talking to girls.
I realized early on when I joined this site I would be of the minority view since most here on not in the same category as me. Let me explain. My observation over a decade of living and working in Asia comes to this conclusion. There are basically 4 groups of mongerers and each have different views and opinions and stereotypes.Ok HK, your superior style and attitude has made me curious to potentially find some of the playgrounds you are hunting in and participate a bit in that upper class combination of stunner looks compared with extraordinary service. Therefore checked your mail history for catching up on your experience.
However unfortunately it’s hard to find worthfull and detailed contribution, if any, where I can gain something. You wrote you joined this board to find places you haven't been there. My suggestion first is however that you could share some of your broad experience here with us for the benefit of others.
Just use EP's writing style and instead of ugly girls in EDEN you write about your high-class evaluation. Pictures would be great as well.
This is seriously. I am interested in your experiences, but less interested in just 'contributors' making comments only.
Please, I am waiting. Cost of girls (I expect you tell us as well) doesn’t matter.
Regards
Brain666
AsiaTraveler2
08-16-07, 12:25
Asia Traveler2,
The barfines differ a lot now here in Soi 33. Some bars take THB 1,000.00, the Office Bar THB 800,00. The traditional hostess bars (Renoir, Monet) more. Livingstone's has 3 rates: THB 1,500.00 before 11 pm, THB 1,000.00 until 1 am. Afterwards THB 700.00.
GiottoGiotto,
Sorry for generalizing. It's just the luck of the draw. All of the girls I have barfined on Soi 33, have been in the bars named after the artists! LOL! I will make it a point, to pull one or two from some of the other bars, just to balance things out. I just might play one of your lovely woman at a game of pool, with a barfine as the prize of course!
I will be touching down shortly, after my other Asia stops.
AT2
this is my first report here, so i'm trying to find a new angle that hasn't been gone over many times already.
my desire is always to find the perfect thai girl, and i had a very good picture in my mind of what she would look like: including good looks, small size, young, good figure, speaks english reasonably well, and of course enjoys sex (and is happy to try most things). however in my very limited experience i have really concluded that some of these seem to be mutually exclusive. all the times i have taken young good-lookers the sex has been very disappointing, to the point now where i wouldn't go with anyone under 28. also i find that if i have to do the chatting-up and the chasing, again it proves disappointing (hardly surprising i guess). i should say that i am fit white male in my 40’s, and not unattractive i like to think.
i have found the best place to find the girls i like is in the beer-garden on soi-7 or more often in the restaurant over the road. i often invite myself to join a table of girls there, but them a drink or some food, and it's a really good way to get to know them. there is a girl i have met there a couple of times (and she remembered me this time from february, who i think is absolutely stunning, but shows so little enthusiasm for seeing me that i have not taken her out (and i know it would be a disaster). incidentally i realised the other day that i had walked past the thermae coffee bar on many occasions, without realising it was there. so last saturday i went in about 10pm for a quick peek, and thought it the most dismal and depressing place i have ever seen. about 50-60 girls, some reasonably attractive, and about 5 farangs, but very smoky and smelly, and not a place i would want to spend any time.
i have had a long-time gf in bangkok, and had arranged to meet her on saturday for a few days holiday. finding myself in bkk on thursday evening i went along to the beer-garden and after a few minutes was joined by a bright young thing, m. we chatted for a while, and i realised she met all my criteria (as far as i could tell) although perhaps could have done with a bit of tooth-straightening a few years ago. she was 32, but could easily have passed for mid-twenties. so after a little discussion went back to my hotel, where we had simply the best sex i have ever had, both in quality and in quantity (at my age anything more than twice a night is a bonus, so 5 times was a minor miracle). the upshot was a realisation that another indication of a likely good time is a girl who has a job. the advantage is that she has some money already so is not desperate and can afford to be a bit choosy. the fact that she joined me was at least an indication that she might like me, which is a good basis for getting on. secondly, she spoke reasonably good english (as she worked in a travel agency), was smartly dressed, took good care of her appearance and figure, and was fairly mature in her outlook. to be blunt, another great advantage is she was busy all day, leaving me to do some touristy things or a bit of shopping, without worrying about how to entertain her.
we met up again the following evening for an equally good session, and said goodbye in the morning, as i explained i would be flying out that day (although really waiting for the gf). to cut a long story short, gf didn’t turn up and extensive enquiries revealed that she had met a german, acquired a visa and gone to live in germany. ! this is obviously a story in itself, but one for another day. suffice to say i contacted m again, told her the story, apologising profusely for my duplicity and asked if she would forgive me, and asked if she would like to meet up for the remaining few days. happily she did, and i was able to recover some self-respect and enjoy myself for the last few days.
so in future i will stick to girls who have a bit of experience and maturity, ideally have a job and a nice personality, and hope that gives me an opportunity for some great sex.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
(I posted it a few days ago but it must have been lost along with the few post that vanished that day. Here it is again)
This report is part 3 of my "Day full of Hormones"===============================
Greetings NicFrenchy and everyone,
The Forum's database crashed a couple of days ago due to a hardware failure. We restored it from our daily backup, but unfortunately we lost approximately 14 hours of data.
My apologies to everyone.
Thanks,
Jackson
The Traveler
08-16-07, 21:33
To the guys that live in Bangkok!
Fellas, need some help here! Been trying to find a map of Bangkok that would locate a road name - Ratchawithi Road - Bangkok, 10400, Thailand.
Anyone know whether I can get to this road by the metro system above or underground from Nana area?
Thanks, LBM
Hi LBM,
you can use the BTS and leave at Victory Monument.
Have a look at the following maps :
http://www.bangkoksite.com/BKKCity/BKKMaps/RatchawithiArea.htm
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.guidetothailand.com/maps-thailand/Map%2520of%2520Thailand,%2520Thailand%2520Maps,%2520Hotel%2520Location%2520Maps_files/map-bangkok-skytrain.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.guidetothailand.com/maps-thailand/bangkok-skytrain.htm&h=707&w=611&sz=44&tbnid=vV55B3YkiXY4CM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmap%2Bbangkok%26um%3D1&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3
http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/bangkok_map/bangkok_map_metro_area_b.html
Enter the name of the street you are looking for into the box in the upper right side (where you can read "Strasse suchen" in red) or use the mouse to move through the map.
http://www.hot-maps.de/asia/thailand/bangkok/homeen.html
Traveler1234
08-16-07, 21:42
Interesting post. Nothing new, but a good basis for discussion.
From what you chose as your 4 groups, I would think that you forgot the group that probably consists of the majority of Mongers: the Sex Tourist, (no matter what age) who comes to Thailand for the Pussy (and temples, sometimes).
Also, I think that people who have lived in Asia for a long time aren't looking for the "Model" types but rather girls who will show them a GREAT time. Models are more in demand with the "Businessmen" type mongers.
This of course is my own opinion.
Two excellent points.
Agree he forgot the sex tourist....these are the ones that keep the prices down, the bottom fishers :)
And for those of us who live and/or travel regularly to Asia, I also agree preference is for women who can give us a GREAT time. Model types are a dime a dozen and usually not worth it....IMHO
Evil Penivel
08-17-07, 01:59
If you were expecting a post about a sex show, I'll have to disappoint you right off the bat. But it's still a show that worth seeing, even if it isn't about pussy or tits 'n ass.
Siam Niramit is a cultural and entertainment complex in Bangkok. Here's the link to the Website,( Siam Niramit (http://www.siamniramit.com/main.php)), so I won't describe it in detail. The high point is a spectacular 80-minute stageshow at 8.00 p.m. every night that features 150 performers, including two elephants, several goats and some chickens.The show is based on Thai history and culture presented in a popular and entertaining manner. The standard of the production is very high, equivalent to anything you'll see in London or New York. Performers fly very convincingly at dizzying heights and a river, with real water, runs on stage. There'are some very effective pyrotechnic effects as well. You won't be bored. There's nothing dry or dull about the show.
Outside the theater there is an open-air plaza that feature all sorts of brief performances before and after the main show. You can see everything from demonstrations of Thai martial arts to classic Thai dancing and music. You'll have plenty of photo opportunities outside - photography during the inside show isn't allowed.
Beyond the theater and plaza, there's a recreation of a Thai village that features traditional houses, crafts, food preparation, etc. You can even get a traditional massage from experts trained at Wat Po. The plaza and village open at 6 p.m. and close roughly an hour after the main performance ends.
The TGs I taken there have loved it. One got very sentimental and said the village reminded her of her home. So if you're tired of spending all your time in bars, you might want to try something that's entertaining in a different manner. It also functions well if you have family or friends you need to entertain in a non-P4P environment.
Some tips - the tickets arem't cheap (1,500 baht a head) if you walk up or order by phone, The price drops to 1,000 baht if you buy the tickets through a tour or travel agent. I don't know why, another example of peculiar pricing policies. Also, taxi drivers don't know where it is, so make sure you have the address in Thai. If you travel by MRT, it's the Thailand Cultural Centre Station, Exit 1. There's a free shuttle bus service from the station every 15 minutes from 6:00 pm. - 8:00 pm.
Below are some photos. Some are from the show itself, the others are from the plaza outside the theater or from the recreation of the village.
Evil
Redfield10
08-17-07, 03:31
"We met up again the following evening for an equally good session, and said goodbye in the morning, as I explained I would be flying out that day (although really waiting for the GF). To cut a long story short, GF didn’t turn up and extensive enquiries revealed that she had met a German, acquired a visa and gone to live in Germany. ! This is obviously a story in itself, but one for another day. Suffice to say I contacted M again, told her the story, apologising profusely for my duplicity and asked if she would forgive me, and asked if she would like to meet up for the remaining few days. Happily she did, and I was able to recover some self-respect and enjoy myself for the last few days."
This is funny. I saw her in February. May, right? You are right, though. She's a nice woman. But the teeth did drive me crazy. Guess I'm shallow. She also had a little case of the bad breath, but was so nice I overlooked it.
Hope you had fun.
Anyone else see May in the biergarten??
LittleBigMan
08-17-07, 05:02
T.T.
Thanks for the information and the map sites. They will come in handy since I looking around for maps and directions how to drive from Pattaya to Sukhothai. Made a promise to the inlaws that I would make a visit once I retire and spend more time in Thailand. To the rice farm!
How is the house coming along? Got a call the other day from the wife and she said while she was picking the kid up at school some guys climb over our house wall and try to break in the house. Broke a window and try to hammer through the wall of the house to get in when they heard her the card. Thailand people never cease to surprise me!
LBM,
I see some narly photos, and goofy babble at ISG but I am just glad that people are enjoying the p4p venues instead of accepting the boring alternatives forced down their throats back home. It troubles me when I see people lash out at others for going bagless, posting uglies, or looking green. I DO try to coach them on not getting scammed or inflating the prices. i've been going there since the 70's and started the p4p in the late 80's and 2 of my favorite girls of all time was a pair my pal and I had at Eden about a year ago. We took them home for the evening as they were so talented, and pleasant. I can't imagine having a bad experience at Eden.
Absolutely. I didn't go to Eden last time in BKK for reasons out of my control. But 10 months ago I went there twice, once inhouse (2 ladies) and once a takeout (2 ladies). I have visited numerous places, and Eden definitely stands out. When they showed up in my room I was treated like a king. Totally enjoyed myself. Maybe I just got lucky both times, but the selection was good. There were some really nice looking girls in there, and I can be picky. What I didn't like was when I went for a take out, sat at a bar and ordered a drink, the lady at the bar was rushing me to pick a girl. But when they are told that you want to enjoy your drink and will not take too long making a choice it should be fine. Just like anywhere else, don't act green and be treated accordingly. If you don't like the line up and they think that you might bail, they'll probably call more girls in from the outside. I will visit that place again in about 2 weeks.
I can only rely on a 1-time experience in EDEN about 1 year ago.
This was a positive one with even a 1st choice girl about an 8-9 as I remember. Her 2nd choice was 1.5 grades down.
However I can’t imagine that there is any refund actually paid as Marc’s SOP (Standard operation Procedure) regarding service definitely is incorporated in the girls.
When I went out with the usual smile I had to honestly admit to his question that I tried but couldn't find a reason to ask for refund.
Marc just hit the perfect setup regarding 'product', service, price and employe satisfaction etc.
We should admit and shouldn't be jealous about his success. That this probably cant be done with a straight lineup of 10's should be knowledge of every monger with 'starfish' experience.
Regarding a perfect business, I see only Giotto with his Livingstone setup who has in my eyes created a different, but similar perfect balance of product, service and price, creating another 'icon' for LOS.
It was a Livingstone Girl, my lovely Miss J, who unintentionally prevented me from my scheduled visit by emptying every remaining fluid before I could have spent it in Eden.
regards
Brain666
Yes. Charging people 1500B barfine is a sign of a good business model......but for the establishment.
Everybody is missing my point. Maybe Softy will understand this comment. There is a go go bar in HK called Club Romance where you can get most anything you want sitting there at the bar sipping a beer. The service is excellent but ALL mongerers who frequent the place would NEVER NEVER say that the girls are attractive (They are all Thai btw).
I have been to that bar many a time and would recommend it to others who just want a quick release. However I would never lie and tell others the girls are attractive and if they did find them unattractive , tell them they didn't see the full lineup.
And to the others, yes, with a tiny amount of work it is easily possible to get the same service as Eden girls and have model looks. Its BKK afterall.
Can you give the name of the place? I want to check it out on my next trip.
Evil Penivel
08-17-07, 11:02
Can you give the name of the place? I want to check it out on my next trip.
...and I'm sure everyone would like to know the answer. I, too, and many others, would definitely check it out.
But if history is any guide, the answer - should we ever get one - won't be the name of a place.
Evil
"We met up again the following evening for an equally good session, and said goodbye in the morning, as I explained I would be flying out that day (although really waiting for the GF). To cut a long story short, GF didn’t turn up and extensive enquiries revealed that she had met a German, acquired a visa and gone to live in Germany. ! This is obviously a story in itself, but one for another day. Suffice to say I contacted M again, told her the story, apologising profusely for my duplicity and asked if she would forgive me, and asked if she would like to meet up for the remaining few days. Happily she did, and I was able to recover some self-respect and enjoy myself for the last few days."
This is funny. I saw her in February. May, right? You are right, though. She's a nice woman. But the teeth did drive me crazy. Guess I'm shallow. She also had a little case of the bad breath, but was so nice I overlooked it.
Hope you had fun.
Anyone else see May in the biergarten??Ha! Yes, it was indeed her. On the last evening we went for a meal, where I had a dodgy dish of sea-food and within an hour I was being violently sick. Recovered enough by bedtime to enjoy myself, and May spent the rest of the night mopping my fevered brow. So I would be the last one to complain about bad breath.
In May, my wife traveled to Bangkok with me for the first time. I was a little nervous (running into "old friends" etc. But no way to avoid the trip as it was coupled with a swing through Asia.
The second day there, she announced that she had heard about this neat sounding massage arond the corner from our hotel (Imperial Queens Park) and wanted to go there. (Remind me to gag the bellman.) Well, being a good sport and having no options I could see, off we went.
Things went pretty well when we walked in. The greeter said, "Your first time here? " (wink, wink) and we sat down to make our selections. Wife did ask why the other two guys were taking so much time over their selection of a service person. She asked, "What can they tell about her ability from a picture? " We quickly took the first ones offered, put our stuff in the locker and soon in came the "technicians" and escorted us to the room where we changed into towls and went for the scrub.
That worked fine and we chatted some as we were in adjacent stalls. She really enjoyed the scrub and salt. Then we went back to the massage rooms (so far so good). We went through the balance of the complete service and finally arrived at the "special surprise". My girl pointed down at what obivously was ready for a surprise and then next door (naturally the wall does not go all the way up and put her finger to her lips (stay quiet, dummy). She grabbed a small towel and motioned for me to bite down on it and hold in my mouth then proceeded to work her magic. (Thai grils are really innovatave.)
Soon all was done and we met at the locker, paid up and walked back to hotel. All the way, wife chatted about how it was the most complete massage she ever had and how refreshed she felt. I said I sure had to agree with her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
If you are talking about Sazanka I thought the place was overated. Had to take too many trips in and out of the room, walked up the stairs with a towel around my ass twice. Massage itself below par (I know it has to do with the girl and not the establishment). Hand job is all you get. But not too expensive. It's the place to visit if you can be assured the entire routine would be taken seriously by the girl - none of that "what does the farang know, anyway..." crap. Oh yes.. and they try to limit your selection by telling you your first choices (pictures of the ladies) are not available.
I know that girl that used to work in Soi Cowboy and recently moved to one of these clubs for Japanese. She told me that the girls there are much better looking than the ones in Soi Cowboy.
The card of the club was only in Japanese (besides the name) and 2 telephone numbers were listed (02-381-2775 & 02-381-2428). I think that the club is fairly new.
I could not find it on Google. It seems that "Ekkamai" is the name for Sukhumvit Soi 63, but I am not sure that the club is actually there.
Does any one know that club?
Can Farangs get in?
How does the club work? (entrance fee, drinks, charge for time with girls, bar fine in any, girl average cost).
Thanks in advance.Well, apparently, not too many Japanese are reading the board!
I will be in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will try to find the club, but I am not sure that I can find it without the name of the street.
I often go to Bangkok, for business, and, when I go out alone, I mostly go to Soi Cowboy, but do not go to bars as often as I use to (if you are fed everyday with caviar, at one point of time .....). I mostly call a few girls that I know, for a dinner and a movie (and the usual shopping !).
Not the easiest relashionships, when you care a little about some of these girls, but some are really sweet. It is obvious that some get attached to you, but the gifts, "take care of" and money issues do come up from time to time.
Having a corporate rate and being upgraded to Executive suites, I always go to the same hotel, but it is starting to become a little bit of a problem to bring back girls at night, when most of the staff knows you.
Short time hotels and short time, in general, are not really my thing (or not anymore).
So many problems. Life is hard!
Yes. Charging people 1500B barfine is a sign of a good business model......but for the establishment.
I was refering to Livingstones as a whole setup, as a package which I consider as an ideal package for me where service and price matches. Where else in Bangkok can you have a more resort style environment in the entertainment location and dedicated to our hobby. I agree that for me the base barfine of 1500 is on the high side as well and a bit out of balance of the otherwise well set price structure (I also don't buy Giottos arg. that this is the Soi33 environment, as other establishments show lower rates too).
However you find a nice setup of girls there, not neccessarily stunners only, but nice girls to be with and the chance of a desaster is rather low, independent of YMMV depending on you. But still if you feel it is way too much, it is an optional package and not a must to choose from the girls in house. If too expensive you can still enjoy the unbeatable environment and choose your girl wherever you want from.
regards
Brain666
Member #3428
08-18-07, 04:39
Well, apparently, not too many Japanese are reading the board!
I will be in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will try to find the club, but I am not sure that I can find it without the name of the street.
I often go to Bangkok, for business, and, when I go out alone, I mostly go to Soi Cowboy, but do not go to bars as often as I use to (if you are fed everyday with caviar, at one point of time .....). I mostly call a few girls that I know, for a dinner and a movie (and the usual shopping !).
Not the easiest relashionships, when you care a little about some of these girls, but some are really sweet. It is obvious that some get attached to you, but the gifts, "take care of" and money issues do come up from time to time.
Having a corporate rate and being upgraded to Executive suites, I always go to the same hotel, but it is starting to become a little bit of a problem to bring back girls at night, when most of the staff knows you.
Short time hotels and short time, in general, are not really my thing (or not anymore).
So many problems. Life is hard!
We're in the same boat when it comes to the girls, hunting, and hotel locations. I'll also be there in two weeks and one of my "friends" will meet me at the airport (so I can't stray far or forget her). If you want to hook up to search for that club let me know. I'd try to PM you but you can't receive.
I was refering to Livingstones as a whole setup, as a package which I consider as an ideal package for me where service and price matches. Where else in Bangkok can you have a more resort style environment in the entertainment location and dedicated to our hobby. I agree that for me the base barfine of 1500 is on the high side as well and a bit out of balance of the otherwise well set price structure (I also don't buy Giottos arg. that this is the Soi33 environment, as other establishments show lower rates too).
However you find a nice setup of girls there, not neccessarily stunners only, but nice girls to be with and the chance of a desaster is rather low, independent of YMMV depending on you. But still if you feel it is way too much, it is an optional package and not a must to choose from the girls in house. If too expensive you can still enjoy the unbeatable environment and choose your girl wherever you want from.
regards
Brain666
Have never been so can't really judge. Sounds like Orchid Inn in Angeles City.
If you were expecting a post about a sex show, I'll have to disappoint you right off the bat. But it's still a show that worth seeing, even if it isn't about pussy or tits 'n ass.
Siam Niramit is a cultural and entertainment complex in Bangkok. Here's the link to the Website,( Siam Niramit (http://www.siamniramit.com/main.php)), so I won't describe it in detail. The high point is a spectacular 80-minute stageshow at 8.00 p.m. every night that features 150 performers, including two elephants, several goats and some chickens.The show is based on Thai history and culture presented in a popular and entertaining manner. The standard of the production is very high, equivalent to anything you'll see in London or New York. Performers fly very convincingly at dizzying heights and a river, with real water, runs on stage. There'are some very effective pyrotechnic effects as well. You won't be bored. There's nothing dry or dull about the show.
Evil
That's the kind of info we need more of. Now it's definitely on the "to do" list.
I know this is a sex site but sex only gets better when you mix it with some other entertainment. Even many TGs don't know crap about what's going on in their city. Last time took an evening dinner cruise from the Shangri La and found out it wasn't the one we were thinking of. Didn't go far enough on the river.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]. And I'm sure everyone would like to know the answer. I, too, and many others, would definitely check it out.
But if history is any guide, the answer. Should we ever get one. Won't be the name of a place.
Go bar in HK called Club Romance where you can get most anything you want sitting there at the bar sipping a beer. The service is excellent but ALL mongerers who frequent the place would NEVER NEVER say that the girls are attractive (They are all Thai btw).
Am I missing something? The name is obviously Club Romance.
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Greetings Islandboy54,
It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.
In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.
Thanks,
Jackson
Member #4329
08-18-07, 19:42
First a question that I hope you can help me with. Does anyone know the STD/HIV testing and safe sex policies at Poseidon? I'm not sure if the girl I had tonight used an oil-based lubricant on the condom during sex, so I feel slightly paranoid that I might have done the deed with a less than fully effective condom. Please help.
Went to Poseidon tonight. As previous reports indicated, it is a very large building with multiple floors for your entertainment. First floor is for KTV and talking with girls. Second floor has a big fish bowl full of women for you to pick, priced at either 2000 or 2500 baht for 2 hours. Third floor has more upscale women, priced at 2900, 3500, 4500, or 5500 (approximately) for 1.5 hours.
I was on the third floor. I had some tea while I watched the lovelies before I picked. In the end I went with two girls one after the other. First the girl washes you in a bathtub, then it's on with the show in bed. The girls seem to be open to the customer's requests, but if you don't request anything in the beginning they'll probably just do something to make it over quickly and then fall asleep.
Thanks.
We're in the same boat when it comes to the girls, hunting, and hotel locations. I'll also be there in two weeks and one of my "friends" will meet me at the airport (so I can't stray far or forget her). If you want to hook up to search for that club let me know. I'd try to PM you but you can't receive.I only answered once a PM on the U.S. board and do not know why it not working.
A quick search in the FAQ gave me the following info: "If the administrator has enabled the Private Messaging system, registered members may send each other private messages.". So, apparently, it is not enabled.
I am not sure of my schedule in Thailand as of yet, as I have to visit other cities, but thanks for your interest in my "problems".
Where is Poseidon?
First a question that I hope you can help me with. Does anyone know the STD/HIV testing and safe sex policies at Poseidon? I'm not sure if the girl I had tonight used an oil-based lubricant on the condom during sex, so I feel slightly paranoid that I might have done the deed with a less than fully effective condom. Please help.
Went to Poseidon tonight. As previous reports indicated, it is a very large building with multiple floors for your entertainment. First floor is for KTV and talking with girls. Second floor has a big fish bowl full of women for you to pick, priced at either 2000 or 2500 baht for 2 hours. Third floor has more upscale women, priced at 2900, 3500, 4500, or 5500 (approximately) for 1.5 hours.
I was on the third floor. I had some tea while I watched the lovelies before I picked. In the end I went with two girls one after the other. First the girl washes you in a bathtub, then it's on with the show in bed. The girls seem to be open to the customer's requests, but if you don't request anything in the beginning they'll probably just do something to make it over quickly and then fall asleep.
Thanks.
Evil Penivel
08-19-07, 02:34
Where is Poseidon?
The address is:
Poseidon Entertainment Complex
209 Ratchadapisek Rd., Din Daeng, Bangkok 10320, Thailand.
There's a map attached below and here's the Website:
Poseidon (http://www.poseidon2000.com/EN/home/home.html).
Evil
Happy Bigamist
08-19-07, 02:47
Where is Poseidon?http://www.poseidon2000.com/EN/about/job.html
I like their price structure with foreigners paying an extra 1000 baht. Just like the other national monuments. As they also do karaoke, you will be up against big walleted Asians.
Tjib: as you only fucked her with an unbroken condom and you did not eat out her pussy during period time or share needles with her (did you?). you are most likely very safe. Your wife will never know and we wil not tell her.
Now that you have taken the plunge, you should get more adventurous. For the same money, you could have a lot of fun if you worry less about HIV and more about boning these fuck bunnies.
Although I fully appreciate your donation to Poseidon/ the Thai economy, the problem with paying inflated prices here or on Soi 33 is you get far less that you pay for. These LBFMs should never forget where they come from and paying over inflated prices gives them too mich bargaining power and gives you less bang for your buck. We all like a bit of romance but rough and tumble is nice too. And that is what their Thai boyfriends give them. I am not suiggesting you wear out a leather belt on their backsides but think before you spend good money.
Remember the only saying you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fireplace. If it is service you want, pay less and get more.
Evil Penivel
08-19-07, 03:24
Jackson
I can solve the mystery and answer his question. To quote you:
Greetings Islandboy54,
It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
....
Thanks,
Jackson
He intended it to appear as:
...and I'm sure everyone would like to know the answer. I, too, and many others, would definitely check it out.
But if history is any guide, the answer - should we ever get one - won't be the name of a place.
Evil
Followed by:
There is a go go bar in HK called Club Romance where you can get most anything you want sitting there at the bar sipping a beer. The service is excellent but ALL mongerers who frequent the place would NEVER NEVER say that the girls are attractive (They are all Thai btw).
To which he comments:
.
Am I missing something? The name is obviously Club Romance.
Islandboy54-
The part that you are missing is that Club Romance is a bar in Hong Kong , while I and others were asking about a place in Bangkok with girls who have model looks and who offer the same services as the Eden Club in BKK. My question came in response to the following from the same post from HK Dog as you quote:
And to the others, yes, with a tiny amount of work it is easily possible to get the same service as Eden girls and have model looks. Its BKK afterall.
Hope this clears everything up, but of course we are still waiting for an answer from HK Dog.
Evil
AsiaTraveler2
08-19-07, 03:47
Where is Poseidon?
Billpsu,
I just posted a response to this question in the massage parlor thread. Someone else had this question and included a prior posters review and the link to their website.
AT2
Cheap Meat
08-19-07, 09:34
I'm looking for some cheap freelancer action as I don't have a lot of money to spend (only have 4, 000 baht a day). You know the kind. 1, 000 baht LT/ 500 baht ST stuff. I'm not interested in the NANA area or the expensive places.
Also, do you think an average waitress, maid, or cashier can be tempted into a ST/LT deal for a reasonably low cost?
Thanks
Guess I did everything wrong here, sorry, feel terribly shy now.
Hello,
Fellow mongers need to keep a very close eye on the Sukhumvit Rd. street vendors that are selling orange juice and coconuts from their push carts. These low lifes don't seem to like us and are good friends with the bargirls that have worked along Sukhumvit Rd.
Rambis Youth
08-19-07, 14:29
daddy,
eden yes, but akane highly unlikely. most fs, bj with cim or cof finishes have come at the peep inn, when it comes to the akane girls. most will stick with the program. at least in my experience. of course, in most cases, i end up in the massage rooms on premises, which definitely only allow massage with jel and the hj finish.
eden would meet your requirements.
at2
i've found that the girls at chitlom are much more likely to offer bbbj than the girls at soii 33. can anyone else comment?
Got it.
Thank you.
Billpsu,
I just posted a response to this question in the massage parlor thread. Someone else had this question and included a prior posters review and the link to their website.
AT2
Will be in Bangkok on Thursday. Will be staying at the Nana Hotel.
Anyone interested in showing a newbie around give me a pm.
Thanks.
Lost Johnny
08-19-07, 16:40
Will be in Bangkok on Thursday. Will be staying at the Nana Hotel.
Anyone interested in showing a newbie around give me a pm.
Thanks.Beleive me, no one will have to show you anything. Out front are any number of FL, the Nana Plaza is right across the street, don't miss the breakfast buffet, the best in Bangkok.
LJB
I was wondered why a report was not shown, the server crash from 16. 08. 07 must be the reason, so it’s clear now.
My report was as a reaction on REBAD his answer to Maintaindad, from date 08. 13. 07 saying that " Thai girls love Falang women. ", maybe a bit late to this send it again but I was one the road the past a week and the information is still valid. I keep kind of Sazanka & Akane parlors as my Men’s only place and would never take my wife or permanent GF there, you just burning you own fingers or blow up your relationship, Mine love’s a massage every day when she travels sometimes with me to BKK, I send here to the hotel Spa or to other good places (sometimes together to keep it nice), I told here that my favourite places are a the Japanese men only Sauna like you find in many Asia hotels or at golf courses. She knows that Men there walking around complete naked, joining the hot and cold tub and steam room, getting backrub from a men, massage by old women etc, she knows I love all this from staying over the weekends in Asian and hanging out all day in these spa’s to recover from jetlag, She is not stupid and she believes it, so like to keep it that way. I don’t have to show up with going to fishbowl parlors or going to take away places that advertise for extra’s or B2B.
My wife as still a nice sexy body for here age, blond and good looking, wherever we go, she is always attracted by Thai girls, even in GoGo bars, hotels etc, (don’t ask me why exactly) She told me so many times, that when she receives a massage in hotels or legitimate places the massage girls have been going very far with there fingers when massaging the behind and front lower part, spending a lot more time in that area (that’s just what we like), leaving here pussy unnecessary uncovered from the towel and she received sometimes good indications to see if she likes it or not or wanted more. She is absolutely not in for that kind of things (as far as I know) and the only solution for here now is wearing a small G string.
I guarantee you that all Thai girls love a Western shaved pussy, just to see or to touch.
She is wondered why I have never complained about this indecent touch? Guess why?
Big chance that Maintadad his wife received there some " extra " treatment from the girl and of course did not told him as most women will do, would Men tell what happen, hell NO. LOL
John Euro
when going to the peep inn next door with one or 2 girls there is some extras possible, but to me, it was only with girls where i have been with before and know me and sure about a good tip afterwards.
check out the parlor section to find more on this.
john euro
Hope this clears everything up, but of course we are still waiting for an answer from HK Dog.
Evil
Do as you promise and please put me on 'ignore' setting.
NicFrenchy
08-20-07, 05:03
Hello,
Fellow mongers need to keep a very close eye on the Sukhumvit Rd. street vendors that are selling orange juice and coconuts from their push carts. These low lifes don't seem to like us and are good friends with the bargirls that have worked along Sukhumvit Rd.I am not sure I understant the point you are trying to make. I buy Orange juice from the same Vendor Everyday and he is seems like a great bloke.
M P Lurker
08-20-07, 11:40
I'm looking for some cheap freelancer action as I don't have a lot of money to spend (only have 4, 000 baht a day). You know the kind. 1, 000 baht LT/ 500 baht ST stuff. I'm not interested in the NANA area or the expensive places.
Also, do you think an average waitress, maid, or cashier can be tempted into a ST/LT deal for a reasonably low cost?
Thanks
May as well move out of Bangkok if you want cheap action. Pattaya is the usual stomping ground for cheapies.
The average waitress won't be interested of course since if they need money they might already know where to hang out for a pick up and can probably get more than you are offering, unless they are well below average looks.
The older ugly girls at beer ardens may be a good bet however, or ask Opebo about Chinatown.
On the other hand if you look like Brad Pitt and are a charming man, you could gets lots of girls for free. However cheap and charming may not correlate too closely.
I guarantee you that all Thai girls love a Western shaved pussy, just to see or to touch.
John Euro[/QUOTE]Thailand is quite a populous country and many of its people have never travelled out of their moo bahn or jangwat, let alone their country. So when these young women come to Bangkok City, they are like country bumpkins let loose and when they work as masseuses and Western wonen come in as customers, they are awed and fascinated and may have the urge to touch and handle, like a child with a new toy. so to say that ALL Thai girls. It's too much of a generalisation.
Jeremy
Traveler1234
08-20-07, 15:08
I've found that the girls at Chitlom are much more likely to offer BBBJ than the girls at Soii 33. Can anyone else comment?
Back in Jan or last Nov (can't remember), posted detail report of my only visit to Akane that included bbbj, rim and fs on premise...total surprise and unexpected, and excellent service/attitude of both micki and sally.
NicFrenchy also posted numerous reports, also with similar results for the Soi 33 location.
Thanks for the encouragment.
Beleive me, no one will have to show you anything. Out front are any number of FL, the Nana Plaza is right across the street, don't miss the breakfast buffet, the best in Bangkok.
LJB
I'm looking for some cheap freelancer action as I don't have a lot of money to spend (only have 4, 000 baht a day). You know the kind. 1, 000 baht LT/ 500 baht ST stuff. I'm not interested in the NANA area or the expensive places.
Also, do you think an average waitress, maid, or cashier can be tempted into a ST/LT deal for a reasonably low cost?
ThanksIt has been reported that in Chinatown one may pay 300 ST.
In Penom Penh they get 2 STs for that amount.
Evil Penivel
08-20-07, 19:29
Guess I did everything wrong here, sorry, feel terribly shy now.
No harm done. Just go ahead and post. There are others here (well, one other) who have far more reason to feel terribly shy.
Evil
May as well move out of Bangkok if you want cheap action. Pattaya is the usual stomping ground for cheapies.
The older ugly girls at beer ardens may be a good bet however, or ask Opebo about Chinatown.
Bangkok is a very expensive place, certainly, while Pattaya is somewhat more reasonable. Keep in mind that 500 baht is now about $15-16, so that 1,500 that the girls charge in Bangkok is nearly fifty bucks! Many's the time I had a nice BJ for less than that in the USA (and yes, Thai girls are not very good at BJs anyway).
But about Chinatown - it can save money, but there is no gaurantee. Even though you may only pay 500 baht per short time, or even 300 if you're a good bargainer or take the older ugly ones, the chances that the girl will provide the kind of service which leads to an orgasm are pretty low. This is true of any Thai-oriented venues, whether high or low-end, and whether upcountry or in Bangkok. Basically service is nonexistent with most of these girls, so you end up having to pay 3-4 to get to the one who can actually give a blow job or fuck decently.
Bangkok is a very expensive place, certainly, while Pattaya is somewhat more reasonable. Keep in mind that 500 baht is now about $15-16, so that 1,500 that the girls charge in Bangkok is nearly fifty bucks! Many's the time I had a nice BJ for less than that in the USA (and yes, Thai girls are not very good at BJs anyway).
My experience of BKK this spring was that it was easy to get a hot lady
for 1000 ST/hr & 2000 LT, while average lookers were attainable for 2
hours for 1000. I found BJs about the same as with low track SWs in
Canada, the advantage of TGs being that they don't have a tendency
to nod off in the process and almost always have thick succulent lips.
These included ladies calling themselves
Pim {like rim}
Mei {pronounced me},
On {but she did not get on me, that is, i}
Air {not a blow up mail order doll}
Nan {named herself after the car park i found her in?}
Poo {guess what she was into?}
Poo #2 {a popular name, it seems}
Apple {without the Adam's}
Boom {screamed so loud i asked her if she needed an ambulance}
Eye {not a cyclops}
Bee {does not bite}
Bee #2 {lots of these in BKK, eh?}
Gob {on my nob?}
Tag {playful GFE?}
Pong {her & Ping were wicked at table tennis}
NicFrenchy
08-21-07, 04:08
This is true of any Thai-oriented venues, whether high or low-end, and whether upcountry or in Bangkok. Basically service is nonexistent with most of these girls, so you end up having to pay 3-4 to get to the one who can actually give a blow job or fuck decently.Hahaha, I highly doubt that the venues you frequent can be used as a benchmark of Service levels in Bangkok or Thailand.
Thailand and Especially Bangkok has numerous Great places where the girls CAN show us a Good time! of course, these do not sell their bodies for 300 thb. You get what you pay for (but you already knew that).
M P Lurker
08-21-07, 06:30
...<cut> ... the chances that the girl will provide the kind of service which leads to an orgasm are pretty low. This is true of any Thai-oriented venues, whether high or low-end, and whether upcountry or in Bangkok. Basically service is nonexistent with most of these girls, so you end up having to pay 3-4 to get to the one who can actually give a blow job or fuck decently.
You keep mongering in Thailand, so something must be good?
Do you or the girls ever enjoy it enough to want to repeat?
Why not collect a set of names and phone numbers of girls that are really excellent, so that you don't have to play the crap shoot by guessing if she is good or not.
Or does this conflict with the aim to break the world record for most girls fucked on the Planet?
I would much rather take a really georgous girl who is a good performer than take pot luck with an ordinary looker. Great face and body help to turn me on.
I also have an aversion to paying good money for a girl who is crap in bed (no fun at all). For some reason though my success rate is generally quite good although I don't expect excellence in every blow job unless the girl specialises in it.
It helps a lot if the girl is in the mood to enjoy.
I never ask for hand jobs since very few girls are really expert at this and I prefer other things anyway.
I find that the most reliable working girls for a good fuck are:
Asians, Black Girls (especially West Indies region), South American, Cuban etc.
Less reliable are European girls, but still many really good ones in German FKK clubs.
Mostly crap are Australian girls and expensive.
English and American girls I just don't know. Never really been attracted to them much and too expensive anyway.
Hahaha, I highly doubt that the venues you frequent can be used as a benchmark of Service levels in Bangkok or Thailand.
Thailand and Especially Bangkok has numerous Great places where the girls CAN show us a Good time! of course, these do not sell their bodies for 300 thb. You get what you pay for (but you already knew that).
I never said there was a lack of good service in the farang-oriented side of the business frenchy, just that the Thai-oriented side of the business tends to provide bad service. As for your idea of 'you get what you pay for', we all know that isn't always the case.
You keep mongering in Thailand, so something must be good?
Not so much good as just better than how incredibly bad it is back home due to police action. Of course I do enjoy girls from time to time, and while in the past I never kept numbers, I have to now in these days of scarcity due to police action. I remember in the past I had a drawer full of slips of paper with the numbers of Beach Road girls - but there were so many there night after night, new and old, that I never once had any temptation to call any of them. Nowadays there are more police than girls down there. Lastly, of course it spoils things to keep going back to the same girl as service drops off, novelty is lost, and some of them develop expectations if they know you actually thought of them while they were not present.
As for gorgeous girls, I see very few around in the business, even in the higher priced level. In any case my price limit is 500-1,000 short time. Simply put I live and work in Thailand, so my budget is exceedingly tight.
NicFrenchy
08-21-07, 09:49
I never said there was a lack of good service in the farang-oriented side of the business frenchy, just that the Thai-oriented side of the business tends to provide bad service.
I misread you Opebo. I apologise about that. I have no specific knowledge of the Thai-oriented side of the business.
As for your idea of 'you get what you pay for', we all know that isn't always the case.True again. But you are more likely to get a Great Experience with a 1500 thb gal than with a 300thb gal in Chinatown.
Hi Jeremy,
Using the word All is a bit a Generalisation, that right, I was maybe not specific enough.
When I was saying " All " I mean, just the masseuses that have done these sexy movements and showing some interest in white pussy and not refer to all the Thai women in general,
It would be a big problem for all of us, if the majority of Thais girls would show only interest in falang pussy instead of "big dick ", where should we end up? LOL
Old Thai Hand
08-22-07, 01:01
It would be a big problem for all of us, if the majority of Thais girls would show only interest in falang pussy instead of "big dick ", where should we end up? LOL
Talk about generalizations.
Could we say that, the "majority of Thai hookers"... instead of "Thai girls"? I doubt if most of you have ever met or interacted with regular Thai girls to any extent. So, it's unlikely that you would know that in fact very few Thai girls are interested in Falang "big dick".
The true lack of knowledge on this board of how real Thai women think and feel is beyond belief. Yet, generalizations about Thai girls abound.
Realising that you couldn't get a good hambuger and best to stick to Thai food...Are there any decent French Restaurants?I think you could have easily made your own hambuger by picking up buns from 7-11 or a food market. For the meat they usually have quite a variety across the street from the Nana Hotel near the entrance to NEP. Some of them looked like the huge beetles {cockroaches? } I saw on the sidewalks of soi 4 and once near the elevator. This may qualify as French cuisine as well {Fr delicacy, escargots} in which case you would be killing two birds with one stone.
P.S. Contact a lady named Pim in the parking lot if you are interested in white ants in your hambuger. She offered me some from her soup.
The true lack of knowledge on this board of how real Thai women think and feel is beyond belief.I think the vast majority of readers, members & posters have minimal interest in how TGs think and feel. It is how they suck and fuck that is foremost on their minds. In my case you can add kiss and lick to that list. So I have an interest in how Thai meat, in particular P4P ladies, think and feel, inasmuch as it relates to their sucking me and fucking me. This is where your remarks on the inner mechanisms of Thai women can be quite helpful, or at least good for entertainment purposes.
This attitude may get me in trouble with some of them who are clingers, who say I have no love, no heart, am "sigh lie" {sp? }. But I don't BS them and tell them straight up that I am not looking for misery, I. E. A wife, nor even a GF. Not unless she is willing to let me do what I want & explore the wide world of pussy.
talk about generalizations.
so, it's unlikely that you would know that in fact very few thai girls are interested in falang "big dick".
most tgs are interested in asian dwarf [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), i.e. peewee herman.
many also like 2 + 3 + 4...2 centimetres, 3 seconds, 4 thousand.
Sean_Double
08-22-07, 03:40
Talk about generalizations.
Could we say that, the "majority of Thai hookers"... instead of "Thai girls"? I doubt if most of you have ever met or interacted with regular Thai girls to any extent. So, it's unlikely that you would know that in fact very few Thai girls are interested in Falang "big dick".
The true lack of knowledge on this board of how real Thai women think and feel is beyond belief. Yet, generalizations about Thai girls abound.
OTH,
Well OTH, I beg to differ; I've been married to (your definition) of a "regular" Thai girl longer than you've been in Thailand. I can assure you that the idea of falang "big dick" is a topic of great interest. "Regular" girls joke about it all the time and want to give it a try; whether they actually do or not is a question of nerve or opportunity more than anything else.
It's ironic that you would claim you know how real Thai women "feel and think." Are you married to a Thai woman?, have you had a long term relationship (i.e. longer than a couple of months)?, or have you gleened this knowledge of the minds of "regular" Thai women from the dizzying heights of the Hi-So world that we hear about ad nauseum.
It's my thought that only a naive egotist would criticize the knowledge level of the board....maybe it's time to take a break.
Cheers,
Sean
Like Mick Licker I have never had anything taken while in Thailand. I do always lock everything of value up though if there is going to be a working girl in the room.
As for hotel staff, at the better hotels I have never had any problems. I know at the Hyatt they will even return money you leave in your laundry. Of course it is always better to not provide temptation, but in many, many stays in different hotels in Thailand, I have often accidentally left money, cameras, laptops, and other goodies out with never a problem. But then I tend to stick to the better hotels.I never had anything stolen either, except that a WG helped herself to 30 Baht change at the desk where i was sitting. I thought that was kind of strange since she took it right from under my nose, with both of us having full knowledge of the act.
At the Nana Hotel the laundry staff returned a pair of sunglasses i had left in clothes i had given them for cleaning. The maid loaned me an electric hot water pot for making coffee i bought at the 7-11 next door {10 baht rather than 50 + tip for the restaurant or room service}.
Well OTH, I beg to differ; I've been married to (your definition) of a "regular" Thai girl longer than you've been in Thailand. I can assure you that the idea of falang "big dick" is a topic of great interest. "Regular" girls joke about it all the time and want to give it a try; whether they actually do or not is a question of nerve or opportunity more than anything else.
Not only thai girls are interested in big dicks-I was sitting bu the side of the road where a cop was pulling motorcycles over and he came over and wanted to know everything, how long, hair or not, how often and more. Other people too my wife knows are very interested in details of our sexlife that I however never volunteer, just to make sure nobody's feelings get hurt.
NicFrenchy
08-22-07, 08:26
I think the vast majority of readers, members & posters have minimal interest in how TGs think and feel... <cut> So I have an interest in how Thai meat, in particular P4P ladies, think and feel, inasmuch as it relates to their sucking me and fucking me.Wow, I am in awe, you are a real class act.
And since when can you think for the majority of readers and members? I can assure you that I, for one, treat the ladies as I would treat a friend: with respect.
Old Thai Hand
08-22-07, 12:26
OTH,
Well OTH, I beg to differ; I've been married to (your definition) of a "regular" Thai girl longer than you've been in Thailand. I can assure you that the idea of falang "big dick" is a topic of great interest. "Regular" girls joke about it all the time and want to give it a try; whether they actually do or not is a question of nerve or opportunity more than anything else.
It's ironic that you would claim you know how real Thai women "feel and think." Are you married to a Thai woman?, have you had a long term relationship (i.e. longer than a couple of months)?, or have you gleened this knowledge of the minds of "regular" Thai women from the dizzying heights of the Hi-So world that we hear about ad nauseum.
It's my thought that only a naive egotist would criticize the knowledge level of the board....maybe it's time to take a break.
Cheers,
Sean
well, first of all...How do you know how long I've been in Thailand? But, if you do, and you have been with you wife/GF that long, or longer pity you. She must be quite the old hag, by now.
Secondly, I have in fact been in very long relationships here (over 4 years with one and 1 1/2 years with the current one).
I'm not actually disputing that some TGs might have a curiosity about Farang dicks, like women anywhere. I've certainly encountered it among a certain type of TG. But, I'm still of the opinion that the vast majority of TGs, certainly middle-class and higher, really have no interest in Farang at all, and only want a Thai man. Only a comparative handful are interested in anything other than Thai dick. The belief that large numbers of Thai women are interested in Farang (dicks or any other part) is a pleasant myth to ease the minds of the punters (and regular guys like me). But, in fact it just isn't so.
If you look at the girls chasing Farang on the Internet, they tend to largely come from relatively poor backgrounds and the majority are from Isaan.
...and, regarding the HiSo TGs; I would suggest that Farang hardly need apply at all (me included).
My original post was prompted by the lumping together of all Thai women by guys on here who don't know the difference between a hooker and a regular TG. It's a pet peave of mine and something that really irritates the hell out of me.
Butr, I'm not looking for a fight.
I'm looking for some cheap freelancer action as I don't have a lot of money to spend (only have 4, 000 baht a day). You know the kind. 1, 000 baht LT/ 500 baht ST stuff. I'm not interested in the NANA area or the expensive places.
Also, do you think an average waitress, maid, or cashier can be tempted into a ST/LT deal for a reasonably low cost?
ThanksI've been heading down to Chinatown on the MRT. From there a short walk a couple of nearby streets 'Charon Krung' and environs. There are quite a number of 'girls' on the street and 300bt ST is easy to come by. 50bt for the room and there you go. Day or night, you should have no trouble.
Of course at that price service is unreliable. It can be pretty good, but can be very average. The girls are at the low end of the looks and body scale and the rooms are very very basic. Most girls have little or no English.
Still, I've had quite a few good experiences in between the occasional starfish. At the price.
I have corrected the using of word “ALL” into just the massage girls environment where I was referring to , or some off you can extend it also in to “all hookers “ as you like .
From the experience I had with regular Thai girls , I can’t claim knowing how they think in general about getting “ falang dick “ , guy’s who live LOS permanently and are fairly more involved with “ regular girls “ and will know this much better than the ones that are only interested in the P4P business ,that’s clear . I don’t want to discus that .
I have taken out many times the office girls from company’s I have been working with , just for evening fun or a dinner (and get lay ?? ) , I think we may call them regular Thai girls.
As far as I remember most of them have been showing a fair good amount of interest in the “ falang “ men , but to be honest , it has been very hard to get some of them between the hotel bed sheets and I only succeed a few times , so “ falang dick “was for sure not the priority .
Beside the fact that I had mostly a good time with them , I finally gave up wasting my “valuable” evening time on that , there was no way to start a long time relationship for me and I decided to stay only in the P4P game , this turned out to be the best solution but some of these office girls have been staying long time in contact with me.
I may say that I have been playing at least a few hundred times golf in Thailand in different areas and that at least 99% (if not 100) of the caddy girls have been complaining violently about the Thai men , let’s call this mid class or some will say lower class girls , however leave this point on the site , most caddy girls old or young are divorced and have kids and have to work hard for a few hundred bath a day . The complain is mainly that Thai men don’t work , are always drunk and gamble , If my wife play’s golf with me there on some occasions the complains to here ,as a women , are going even further , telling her that “ Thai men are really bad men “ , having younger girl friends and spend all the money , they asking my wife on many occasions “ how are Europe men ?? “ “ you have same problem with men “ ?? etc .
So , generalising is not in play here ,
J.E.
Hey friends,
I am planning to visit Bangkok in Sept. This is going to be my fist visit to Bangkok. I have contacted Eros for providing service of full time girl for 2 nights. I would like to seek advice of friends
a) Anybody has experience with Eros (erosbangkok.com)? Are they reliable service provider ?
b) What type of risk is prominent in Thailand for engaging such type of agency in advance?
c) How much an english speaking girl should cost for full day (24 hrs) in Bangkok?
d) What is the best way to spent the time in Bangkok? I would like to avoid spending time in Bangkok just for the searching the girls.
e) What precautions should i take while dealing with escort agency and while in Thailand ?
A lots of thanks in advance for the kind advice
Wow, I am in awe, you are a real class act.
And since when can you think for the majority of readers and members? I can assure you that I, for one, treat the ladies as I would treat a friend: with respect.Sorry to have offended you, NiceFrancey. But I am wondering if your real
sore spot was my reference to escargot & bugburgers? In truth, though,
you should feel lucky since you will be like at home with the cuisine in LOS!
But just so you know that there are no hard feelings, here is a listing of
6 things i like French ;
1. FRENCH FRIES
2. FRENCH TOAST
3. FRENCH DRESSING
4. FRENCH ONION SOUP
5. FRENCH KISSING
6. MENAGE A TROIS
In closing let me leave you with these thoughts i intercepted through the air,
since i have the ability to know the minds of others around the globe:
We all know the joke of the French man fucking the dead woman and saying
"Oh I thought she was English."
I love French women who know how to use a razor which seems to be
only 1 in 100.
Au revoir, sir, & happy hunting!
Old Thai Hand
08-23-07, 01:17
My original post was prompted by the lumping together of all Thai women by guys on here who don't know the difference between a hooker and a regular TG. It's a pet peave of mine and something that really irritates the hell out of me.
Firstly what is the difference btwn a hooker and a reg. TG?
Not much really.
One asks for straight cash, the other may but usually goes about it in other ways. You seem to put non-hooker and even non-Isaan TGs on a pedestal.
I have read most of your posts and you come across as a typical loud mouthed, opinionated citizen of the USA. I could be wrong about your country of origin and if so I apologise.
You seem to think you are all so knowledgable about TGs and "Hi-so" Thais in general. Who gives a fuck about Hi-sos in any country. Scum rises to the top in every country. I reckon in your workplace you would be the archetypal farang poodle licking the arses of his Thai masters. I have seen sucks like you in action and it is sickening. Newsflash OTH-one does not have to admire Thais or lick their arses (hookers excepted) to get on here. But judging by the amount of postings you have made I don't think you have too much going on in your sad, empty, little Hi-so life-do you.
Do us all a favour and shut the fuck up.
mmmm. wrong on counts.
Not American. I have long since stopped admiring Thais at all, least of all HiSos and I don't lick anyone's ass. Overall, I could give a fuck about what Thais think.
It seems these days, morons like you are endemic on the Thai board in particular, which is why until, I unwisely commented here and got into this, I had all but stopped posting except on the politics thread. I doubt very much with your attitude that you know fuck-all about Thais or Thai women.
And...given that you "have read most of [my] posts", one wonders with so much time on your hands that allows you to do that, how pathetic, in fact your life must be.
Nice post for newbie, dickweed.
But, I'm still of the opinion that the vast majority of TGs, certainly middle-class and higher, really have no interest in Farang at all, and only want a Thai man. Only a comparative handful are interested in anything other than Thai dick.
I know the exception doesn't prove the rule, but I have a friend married a Thai girl whose parents are both dr's (one is very well known even internationally). I also have a few friends dating and engaged to Thai women who work in major international banks in Bankgok.
No disrespect to you, but I think if you are young , handsome and have a respectable job in Thailand, middle class Thai women are easy to come by. When I used to visit my companies Bangkok office years ago, one of the senior women working there came from a High Society position. Without revealing too much, her family has tenticles in diplomacy posts with major countries and Thai govt agencies. She would always ask me if I wanted to be introduced to daughters of her friends but I always declined (I knew that it would end badly and didn't want to risk my job!!).
ArchieLeach
08-23-07, 02:42
BKKGreg,
....typical loud mouthed, opinionated citizen of the USA
Easy mate, there are almost 300 million people in the States and they aren't any more or less "typically loud-mouthed", or "opinionated" as any Aussie or Brit despite the conventional wisdom to the contrary. So be careful with the hate-mongering. If you've got a problem with OTH fine, but don't go throwing stones at an entire nation while living in a glass house, mate. You forfeit anything valuable you had to say on the spot otherwise.
Cheers
Let me clarify with my own comments as I am married to a local TG who holds a professional job (not a working WL)
1. TGs comes from various different origins. Hi So (whatever you want to name it) is normally the Thai Chinese and most if not all are highly educated. So that would explain a little about the favor and dependency on local or farang delicacies. The visible differences will be the skin colour. The darker the lower as you can see most in Patpong are dark skin.
2. For working WL and sub standard TG, is not the local or imported dick they are after. It's the thickness of the wallets that is the attraction. Irregardless of small or big dicks but if your wallet is thick, you are in.
3. I read this article on my flight to Europe last week, it states that most big houses in thai villages are either owned by farang or a TG married to one.
So in all it's the lower income TG dependency of the security that can be provided by a farang and they don't judge you by the dicks you have.
You can have a local low income TG even if you are senile if you have the bucks.
[QUOTE=Bkkgreg]
I have read most of your posts and you come across as a typical loud mouthed, opinionated citizen of the USA. I could be wrong about your country of origin and if so I apologise.
Now that's what I call not being opinionated or loud mouthed. Why is it always people with dirty assholes who complain that it smells like shit?
Old Thai Hand
08-23-07, 09:32
I know the exception doesn't prove the rule, but I have a friend married a Thai girl whose parents are both dr's (one is very well known even internationally). I also have a few friends dating and engaged to Thai women who work in major international banks in Bankgok.
No disrespect to you, but I think if you are young , handsome and have a respectable job in Thailand, middle class Thai women are easy to come by. When I used to visit my companies Bangkok office years ago, one of the senior women working there came from a High Society position. Without revealing too much, her family has tenticles in diplomacy posts with major countries and Thai govt agencies. She would always ask me if I wanted to be introduced to daughters of her friends but I always declined (I knew that it would end badly and didn't want to risk my job!!).
Ya. I will concede that the criteria you set out - "young, handsome, respectable job" will garner interest among certain Thai girls, even HiSo ones, who would otherwise be uninterested in the vast majority of Farang. Of these factors, the "respectable job" is by far, the most important. Therefore, "young, handsome" English teachers pulling down 35,000 a month don't stand a chance. Conversely, Old, handsome geezers like myself ;) because I have the "respectable job" with a decent salary, at least have a fighting chance.
I still maintain that most Farang that are here and certainly visit here wouldn't get a look-in.
Retired Army
08-23-07, 11:12
I still maintain that most Farang that are here and certainly visit here wouldn't get a look-in.
Not if they only hang out on Sukhumvit. But after being there for a while and making Thai friends--not connected to the tourist industry--you get a better understand of Thailand and Thai's.
M P Lurker
08-23-07, 11:40
Hey friends,
I am planning to visit Bangkok in Sept. This is going to be my fist visit to Bangkok. I have contacted Eros for providing service of full time girl for 2 nights. I would like to seek advice of friends
a) Anybody has experience with Eros (erosbangkok.com)? Are they reliable service provider ?
b) What type of risk is prominent in Thailand for engaging such type of agency in advance?
c) How much an english speaking girl should cost for full day (24 hrs) in Bangkok?
d) What is the best way to spent the time in Bangkok? I would like to avoid spending time in Bangkok just for the searching the girls.
e) What precautions should i take while dealing with escort agency and while in Thailand ?
A lots of thanks in advance for the kind advice
I don't know anything about agencies since I don't use them. I am hard to please and my tastes are subtle. I want to choose for myself.
Do you have only 2 nights in Thailand? its a bit short really.
Perhaps you should try several girls instead.
Most of us guys read the Forum in order to find some likely places to go looking for girls and then choose someone ourselves.
Not sure if Eros will know exactly what sort of girl is your type/preference.
It would be too bad if you got a girl full time and kept passing girls that you like much better in the street.
If I meet a new girl I usually go for a short time first to see if we really get on well. If we should happen to really click, then I could move to organising her for multiple days.
This is not tough if :
1. the girl is generally available and has no family that must be returned to daily
2. she really likes you
3. the money you offer suits her needs
If we don't click, no harm done. Look for another girl (without delay).
Armed with a stack of likely venues, finding a girl should not take too long.
What out though for girls who used to be boys.
Many girls may be stuck in a dreary lifestyle desperately wondering where the money for bills is going to come from. A fair paying multi-day booking can relieve their pressure and allow them to relax a little and have a good time.
I have the advantage of speaking Thai also, but still their are plenty of mongers on the forum who don't so they can give advice where to find girls with good English.
Cost of a girl per day will depend a lot on where you find her.
I don't know what agencies charge.
Some girls may take as little as 3000 Baht (Bangkok). Others might want quite a bit more. I can't recall ever exceeding 5000 Baht. Others may want to tell me off and say its even cheaper, but depends on the quality of the girl.
Remember however that many working girls will earn less than 3000 Baht per day where others may earn well over this amount. It just depends how hot they are.
P.S. by the look of the Eros site, I would expect their packages to be at the expensive end of the scale and probably way off top of my price scale.
Jungle Bluebird
08-23-07, 11:43
I am sorry HK Dog. You seem to be a victim of misconception. Don't be fooled by the Thai politeness. Just like children they enjoy to play with you. Most play is superficial and without any thought to it.
Any relationship with a foreigner makes your Thai wife/GF a marked individual, regardless if she is a prostitute/employee or CEO. Thais are not tolerant as you may believe. Just because they smile, this does not mean they accept.
Most Thai's never admit this, as they do not grasp that they are in fact racist. Your Thai g/f, wife will never admit this as she is embarrassed about her country.
JB
I know the exception doesn't prove the rule, but I have a friend married a Thai girl whose parents are both dr's (one is very well known even internationally). I also have a few friends dating and engaged to Thai women who work in major international banks in Bankgok.
No disrespect to you, but I think if you are young , handsome and have a respectable job in Thailand, middle class Thai women are easy to come by. When I used to visit my companies Bangkok office years ago, one of the senior women working there came from a High Society position. Without revealing too much, her family has tenticles in diplomacy posts with major countries and Thai govt agencies. She would always ask me if I wanted to be introduced to daughters of her friends but I always declined (I knew that it would end badly and didn't want to risk my job!!).
Hey friends,
I am planning to visit Bangkok in Sept. This is going to be my fist visit to Bangkok. I have contacted Eros for providing service of full time girl for 2 nights. I would like to seek advice of friends
a) Anybody has experience with Eros (erosbangkok.com)? Are they reliable service provider ?
b) What type of risk is prominent in Thailand for engaging such type of agency in advance?
c) How much an english speaking girl should cost for full day (24 hrs) in Bangkok?
d) What is the best way to spent the time in Bangkok? I would like to avoid spending time in Bangkok just for the searching the girls.
e) What precautions should i take while dealing with escort agency and while in Thailand ?
A lots of thanks in advance for the kind advice
Mick Licker has answerd already much better then I could do it.
But please consider as a base rule:
This is Thailand: You don't need to find the girls, the girls will find you.
Having 24 h with one girl may not even be a wise decision. You may soon want to have some variation if you figure how easy it is to get a companion.
Read the forum and plan some schedule where you know you will find girls. I did such a schedule for my first trip, but only could manage maximum 1/3 of it. Reason were girls who enjoyed to stay longer. The add on time is usually free of charge (lets say an LT can last until 17:00h in the afternoon e.g. for a GoGo girl.), while through an agency you pay the time you asked for, even if you want to get rid of her after a few hours.
regards
Brain666
I was a loorker of this site for so much time, but finilly I have my chance to make my first report. The first thing that take you when you come in bangogk is pollution and traffic, yeah pollution, for who is not usually with this two things the first impression is not so good. But after come night and the things is assolutly better. I stay at livistone, I'm a newbie so I go for sure, anyway is good place is like a small familly here you have all in your hands, nice hotel, good longue and always a smile, after a misundestanding about pick up all go good. From Livinstone you can take sky train that is a must for fast trasport but if you are here with friends, like me, take taxy, only taxy meter, they are so cheap.
Now go to the first night, we go to soi cowboy, 3 streets frome livingstone, for a newbie is like disney of pussy, we make like pinball from all bar in the street, make it! For my taste shark is the best but all have some special.
What I find here special is not sex but atmosfere, thai is different, is like you take a special moment envery girls you meat, you know that is not real, naturally, but who doesn't matter.
The right time for a good pick-up is from 1. 00am-1. 30am when price go down and quality is good. I took a slim (I adore thay body) girl little for 1500bht and I have one or better night of my life, the must is tight pussy and girlfrendly experience. Now I'm going to my second night, stay tuned and I hope to give us some photo. Sorry for my bed english.
I was a loorker of this site for so much time, but finilly I have my chance to make my first report. The first thing that take you when you come in bangogk is pollution and traffic, yeah pollution, for who is not usually with this two things the first impression is not so good. But after come night and the things is assolutly better. I stay at livistone, I'm a newbie so I go for sure, anyway is good place is like a small familly here you have all in your hands, nice hotel, good longue and always a smile, after a misundestanding about pick up all go good. From livinstone you can take sky train that is a must for fast trasport but if you are here with friends, like me, take taxy, only taxy meter, they are so cheap.
Now go to the first night, we go to soi cowboy, 3 streets frome livingstone, for a newbie is like disney of pussy, we make like pinball from all bar in the street, make it! Form my taste shark is the best but all have some special.
What I find here special is not sex but atmosfere, thai is different, is like you take a special moment envery girls you meat, you know thet is not real, naturally, but who doesn't matter.
The right time for a good picup is from 1. 00am-1. 30am when price go down and quality is good. I took a slim (I adore thay body) girl little for 1500bht abd I have one or better night of my life, the must is tight pussy and gr experience.
Now I'm going to my second night, stay tuned and I hope to give us some photo.
AsiaTraveler2
08-23-07, 15:31
Hey friends,
I am planning to visit Bangkok in Sept. This is going to be my fist visit to Bangkok. I have contacted Eros for providing service of full time girl for 2 nights. I would like to seek advice of friends
a) Anybody has experience with Eros (erosbangkok.com)? Are they reliable service provider ?
I checked out the website (Eros is well known, but never had the need to use them in any country), and the girls listed on the site are probably not going to be worth what they will charge you. You can find thousands of girls as good or better, at 2,000 baht or less. Keep the number handy. Wait till you get to BKK and survey the scene and then decide. I don't think you will end up using that number.
You really need to read this forum and you will have a much better experience than what you have lined up right now with this agency.
AT2
You best bet will be to contact giotto at Livingstones.
If you read his thread, you will see this same topic discussed a few pages back.
'bare
Tropical Pleasure
08-23-07, 19:18
Hi Guys.
Sorry new to the scene. I will be coming to BKK with my girl (indonesian). And she is looking at some fun. And I am happy to share her fantasies. Who will not?
We are looking at a place where we can meet girls to join her for some girls distractions. A place where my girl can also exhibit herself as this is a major turn on.
Will post pix of the girls. For sure. But anyone of you could recommend us places to go as a couple?
Might even meet you in one of these places.
Thanks
Evil Penivel
08-23-07, 19:31
Hey friends,
What type of risk is prominent in Thailand for engaging such type of agency in advance?
What precautions should i take while dealing with escort agency and while in Thailand ?
Zraj -
When you deal with an escort agency, you are basicaly paying a big premium for the convenience of having the girl show up at your door. Some customers want or need that degree of convenience and don't mind paying a lot extra for it.
But don't believe for a minute an agency will supply a "higher class" or more beautiful girl than you'll find in bars or on the street. In fact, the girls who are registered with escort agencies field their calls while sitting in Gulliver's, a Nana gogo or even the Beer Garden. The stories about models and university students working for an escort agency are only for those who really want to believe.
One trick the escort agency will use is to promise that the girl you've picked out from their Web site will arrive at a certain time or within a certain number of minutes. About 30 minutes before she's supposed to arrive, the agency will call to say she's been delayed in traffic but a different girl can still get to your hotel within 30 minutes. There won't be a photo of the replacement girl on the Web site. If you say "no," they'll offer to email you a photo of another girl who's also close by. If you insist you'll wait for the girl you booked, a girl who sort of resembles her will appear.
It's one of the oldest scams of them all, bait and switch. The girl in the Web site photo has probably never worked for the agency The owner tries various tricks, all involving the same girl, to try to get you to accept her instead of the girl in the photo.
Evil
I am sorry HK Dog. You seem to be a victim of misconception. Don't be fooled by the Thai politeness. Just like children they enjoy to play with you. Most play is superficial and without any thought to it.
JB
I don't quite understand what you are getting at. When was I a victim? I have been in Asia long enough and done enough business to know the Thai mentality and their inherent racistness. But it is no different than the Japanese or the Koreans who are worse.
Are all my friends married or engaged to middle class Thai's victims and are being set up for a grand fall in the future where all the Thai's will sit around and laugh at them?
Jungle Bluebird
08-24-07, 03:01
HK Dog
mis·con·cep·tion (mĭs'kən-sěp'shən): A mistaken thought, idea, or notion;
JB
I don't quite understand what you are getting at. When was I a victim? I have been in Asia long enough and done enough business to know the Thai mentality and their inherent racistness. But it is no different than the Japanese or the Koreans who are worse.
Are all my friends married or engaged to middle class Thai's victims and are being set up for a grand fall in the future where all the Thai's will sit around and laugh at them?
Wander Luster
08-24-07, 03:19
I know this kind of question has been asked in one form or another, but i just feel STUCK and in disbelief that the answer has to be so difficult.
I want to find a girlfriend from BKK to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want a second to come along as well.
I usually wind up "dating" bar girls so that I don't have to pay their bar fine, although I spend MUCH more time in the Philippines.
Lets say a girl worked in a bar and is doing nothing now after quiting (I know....be cynical...ok, she's fucking guys right and left and is for sure a no good lieing ***** that is taking advantage of me (-: )
The fact that she can show no consecutive employment is a strike against her getting a visa. Even if she were working in a bar for 12 straight months, would that help? If she could put on the application she worked at "Papion" and say it is a "restaurant"?
Then she has to have a ton of money in her bank account to get this visa....at least I think that matters: it does for an Filipino girl trying to travel to US. No, I don't trust her with 1000s, so I don't want to give her access to 1000s of USD in an acct. I could go to BKK and fly with her or we could fly seperate.
Then....she can stay for, what 60 days MAX with all extensions? 60 is enough, but AT WHAT COST?
Bottom line is I read that one should just FORGET bringing a girl over on a tourist visa from the Philippines. Could it really be that bad also in Thailand?
I own a "LLC" company in the US. Would it be a better route to try to apply for the most limited work visa possible? This company has no employees in usa, just me, and her skills? ....well they are indeed very SPECIALIZED and DIFFICULT TO FIND in the US, but not quite what us imigration has in mind i think.
How the hell do I get her over here? I was looking at these "sugar daddy" websites and all these girls want $5000 to spend a couple days a week with you + be showered with gifts. I want a live in situation like I can have in the Phils! In a world of outsourcing this should be possible!
I'm relatively young and get girls in the US, but nothing can compare to a Asian live-in girlfriend who is willing to give you a lot of freedom if you a generous to her (RE: more about sex and money then a "real" serious relationship)
Thanks.
HK Dog
mis·con·cep·tion (mĭs'kən-sěp'shən): A mistaken thought, idea, or notion;
JB
I still don't understand what you are getting at. Are you saying that the motives of this women in introducing me to her friends daughters a joke? Are my friends relationships with Thai middle class girls just a laugh for the Thais?
Where exactly was my "mis·con·cep·tion "?
I know this kind of question has been asked in one form or another, but i just feel STUCK and in disbelief that the answer has to be so difficult.
I want to find a girlfriend from BKK to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want a second to come along as well.
.
Small chance in my opinion. The immigration officer usually looks for reasons the person would not want to stay in the US. The girls you described would have no reason to leave to the US.
Jungle Bluebird
08-24-07, 05:54
HK Dog, sorry for the confusion.
In general Thai's (according to my experience) are very superficial. Everything is easy and best accomplished with a lot of fun.
Just like children, who would play until it hurts, the actual result of their actions comes as a complete surprise to them.
I quit my job...oh now I have no money.
I place my daughter on my lap when I drive, oh she is now hurt.
I take no contraception, oh I am pregnant now etc etc...
My point is (and was in my previous posts) that Thai's never really think things through.
With regard to social introductions. That is an old game in Thailand. They do not laugh at you, they (again) just play and have fun. It generates communal entertainment. Also keep in mind that although Thai's appear rather innocent at times, their jokes and games can be quite heavy.
I do not think though that introductions would indicate more then a dinner date. But this is not for me to judge. Your social scene after all :-)
JB
I still don't understand what you are getting at. Are you saying that the motives of this women in introducing me to her friends daughters a joke? Are my friends relationships with Thai middle class girls just a laugh for the Thais?
Where exactly was my "mis·con·cep·tion "?
[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]
In general Thai's (according to my experience) are very superficial. Everything is easy and best accomplished with a lot of fun.
Just like children, who would play until it hurts, the actual result of their actions comes as a complete surprise to them.
I quit my job...oh now I have no money.
I place my daughter on my lap when I drive, oh she is now hurt.
I take no contraception, oh I am pregnant now etc etc...
My point is (and was in my previous posts) that Thai's never really think things through.
/QUOTE]
21 years here in Thailand and I could not agree more. No point telling them anything, it either goes in one ear and out of the other, or is forgotten in 10 minutes.
Apart from using condoms, most working girls in my experience do not take the pill. Yet when condoms break, as they sometimes do, or when times are hard, and they agree to bareback, they give no thought to the fact that they are unprotected, and when they become pregnant, it is a total surprise.
Almost knock them off their motorbikes, when they suddenly U-turn in front of you, and they think it's a huge joke. I end up wishing I actually had knocked them off!
Cowboy Brew
08-24-07, 07:04
In general Thai's (according to my experience) are very superficial. Everything is easy and best accomplished with a lot of fun.
Just like children, who would play until it hurts, the actual result of their actions comes as a complete surprise to them.
I quit my job...oh now I have no money.
I place my daughter on my lap when I drive, oh she is now hurt.
I take no contraception, oh I am pregnant now etc etc...
My point is (and was in my previous posts) that Thai's never really think things through.21 years here in Thailand and I could not agree more. No point telling them anything, it either goes in one ear and out of the other, or is forgotten in 10 minutes.
Apart from using condoms, most working girls in my experience do not take the pill. Yet when condoms break, as they sometimes do, or when times are hard, and they agree to bareback, they give no thought to the fact that they are unprotected, and when they become pregnant, it is a total surprise.
Almost knock them off their motorbikes, when they suddenly U-turn in front of you, and they think it's a huge joke. I end up wishing I actually had knocked them off!Both of you talk as if all Thais are one and the same. It is akin to describing all Americans as rednecks and all Europeans as Eurotrash. there are different levels and classes of people in Thailand with different educational backgrounds and family upbringing. for someone who have been living in Thailand for 21 years, you sure know how to make sure people know you are full of shit when you generalise.
I do not think though that introductions would indicate more then a dinner date. But this is not for me to judge. Your social scene after all :-)
JB
Yes I now understand were you are coming from. Once when I was in my BKK office a very cute girl caught the corner of my eye early in the day. When I was leaving and a senior Thai guy was walking me to the elevator he literally grabbed her and through her into the lift telling her to go out for a drink with me. She was a really nice girl (Chinese Thai with a gorgeous face but body a bit too big for me but I like super thin women so she was probably normal to the rest) but I found out pretty quickly she was a virgin at 27. She was definitely keen on further visits I had but again why introduce reputation risk when you are in the land of plenty?
Retired Army
08-24-07, 08:21
1) I want to find a girlfriend from BKK to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want a second to come along as well.
2) Bottom line is I read that one should just FORGET bringing a girl over on a tourist visa from the Philippines. Could it really be that bad also in Thailand?
3) How the hell do I get her over here?
Thanks.
1) Good luck
2) Absolutely
3) You probably don't
Bottom Line: this probably isn't going to happen.
Bringing single, young Thai women to the U.S. is almost impossible unless they have a work visa from an international company, been accepted to a school, or you are willing to spring for a K-1 Fiance Visa
NicFrenchy
08-24-07, 09:24
Sorry to have offended you, NiceFrancey. But I am wondering if your real sore spot was my reference to escargot & bugburgers?PinkPearl,
I see where you are getting at, but it's not going to work. Don't try and cover my saying you are a lowlife (because of the way you treat people) into me being upset because you alluded to some French Things.
I have been living outside of France for 11 years now and don't miss it one bit.
Read your post again:
I think the vast majority of readers, members & posters have minimal interest in how TGs think and feel. It is how they suck and fuck that is foremost on their minds. In my case you can add kiss and lick to that list. So I have an interest in how Thai meat, in particular P4P ladies, think and feel, inasmuch as it relates to their sucking me and fucking me. This is where your remarks on the inner mechanisms of Thai women can be quite helpful, or at least good for entertainment purposes.
This attitude may get me in trouble with some of them who are clingers, who say I have no love, no heart, am "sigh lie" {sp? }. But I don't BS them and tell them straight up that I am not looking for misery, I. E. A wife, nor even a GF. Not unless she is willing to let me do what I want & explore the wide world of pussy.
The Thai P4P girls, or "Thai Meat" as you so delicately call them, are human beings, people with feelings.
That's my point. Nothing with the French. But now, if it makes you feel better to think I am calling you a "Class Act" because of your French Comments, be my guest.
M P Lurker
08-24-07, 09:45
Hi Guys.
Sorry new to the scene. I will be coming to BKK with my girl (indonesian). And she is looking at some fun. And I am happy to share her fantasies. Who will not?
We are looking at a place where we can meet girls to join her for some girls distractions. A place where my girl can also exhibit herself as this is a major turn on.
Will post pix of the girls. For sure. But anyone of you could recommend us places to go as a couple?
Might even meet you in one of these places.
Thanks
Tropical Pleasure,
There are definitely a few Bi-sexual girls at Suzie Wong bar in Soi Cowboy and they have a VERY explicit lesbian show.
I took a bi-girl there and she was invited to get up on the stage and join the dancers at one point.
Apart from this, I'm not really expert in where Bi-girls can be found in this modern day, which-ever bar or Massage Parlour you go, just ask.
I heard a rumour that Livingstones Lodge Sports Bar also has a bi-girl but I am not aware of which one. Not sure if Giotto (her boss) would know for sure either.
Both of you talk as if all Thais are one and the same. It is akin to describing all Americans as rednecks and all Europeans as Eurotrash. there are different levels and classes of people in Thailand with different educational backgrounds and family upbringing. for someone who have been living in Thailand for 21 years, you sure know how to make sure people know you are full of shit when you generalise.
Neither Jungle Bluebird nor I have generalised. We both referred to our experience. Furthermore we specified particular events/happenings.
I stick to what I said. I believe it to be true for all the Thais I have come across.
I don't mix with "Hi-So's", in my neck of the woods, people are poorly educated, so I speak as I find. I will also re-iterate Jungle Bluebirds comment "Everything is easy and best accomplished with a lot of fun." That's been my experience in 21 years here without a doubt!
Gentlemen. I was plannning on spending a few nights in BK next trip, but as it happens I will now be leaving Pattaya sometime am and arriving in BK a few hours later. I have to be at the airport at 0600 the following day. Obviously a classical LT ( which I prefer) is out, so what's the best bet?
1. Pick up a FL from The Beer Garden or Gulivers early and have a few rounds and a few drinks etc, or pick up a BG or GoGo later?
I am inclined to find an early afternoon FL, take her back, do the biz, go for a few bevvies and some food, take her back, do the biz again and fuck her off about midnight so I can get to the airport for 6.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Pete
PS Giotto, you escaped I think, but I'll pop by to sus your place out.
FoxesHunter
08-24-07, 11:39
Hello, I am new here. I'd like to spend 10 days in Bankok or Pattaya. Can you tell me which town is cheaper for fucking? Where are the best and more girls between Bangkok and Pattaya? What is your opinion?
I thank you for your suggestions.
Old Thai Hand
08-24-07, 12:03
Neither Jungle Bluebird nor I have generalised. We both referred to our experience. Furthermore we specified particular events/happenings.
I stick to what I said. I believe it to be true for all the Thais I have come across.
I don't mix with "Hi-So's", in my neck of the woods, people are poorly educated, so I speak as I find. I will also re-iterate Jungle Bluebirds comment "Everything is easy and best accomplished with a lot of fun." That's been my experience in 21 years here without a doubt!
I think that both JB and Bumholes are correct in their personal experiences. I've mixed with Thais from all walks of life: educated and uneducated. HiSo to LoSo. I actually teach a class in Concepts of Thainess and Thai Culture. I think I have more than a good understanding of all the subtle differences, including pre-conceptions, racists views and outright hatred among Thais from the North, Central region, Bangkok, Isaan and the South (Thais from the North generally dislike Isaan people, for example).
Generally, however the three constants about Thais, no matter where they come from, or their status/education are:
1/ Everything must be Sanuk
2/ Everything must be Sabai Sabai
3/ They never plan ahead or think about the consequences of their actions
I work wiith some of the supposed best educated and brightest Thais in the country and they are essentially the same in this regard as the poorest farmer from Isaan.
The only exception to this might be the Thai-Chinese who are clever, shrewd, and unscrupulous, which is why they control the country and exploit the rest of the hapless (and happily ignorant) population.
Jungle Bluebird
08-24-07, 12:11
Cowboy Brew
Not so quick. Thing is the very shortcoming (lack of responsibility, maturity ..) makes the Thais also so enjoyable and fun to be with.
Thai girls are the best example. Always happy, never quite upset, except when they are in over their ears and unable to handle it. Then, it's mostly running away from the situation.
It is exactly this amazing imprinted ability to look the other way, that allows Thais to endure this daily unfolding disaster. Think prostitution. Most fascinating how so many girls go short, part time (married, single, proper jobs or pros), without ever seem to be effected by the fact that they are in fact prostitutes.
Living here for a number of years I would even go so far to argue that Thais do like the very chaotic environment they are in. Perfectly organized, shaped or generated plans get quickly messed up only to be left at an 85% state. Most things created new are never quite completed. The oddest thing really.
This also extends to relationship. Just when everything seems to be fine, out of no where trouble looms. Mostly artificially created by the g/f’s or wife’s family involvement. Sure there are exceptions, hard working individuals, but yes, these truly belong to an elite club.
Just a thought.... JB
Both of you talk as if all Thais are one and the same. It is akin to describing all Americans as rednecks and all Europeans as Eurotrash. there are different levels and classes of people in Thailand with different educational backgrounds and family upbringing. for someone who have been living in Thailand for 21 years, you sure know how to make sure people know you are full of shit when you generalise.
From Pattaya to BKK is about 2 hours or a bit less by taxi - plan on 800B plus maybe 60 or so in tolls - the kiosks are all over on 2nd road and some of the more "major" hotels have advertisments as well. 6AM arrival at the airport isn't really getting too heavy and now that the airport is more southeast, the major BKK traffic is less of a factor. Figure your departure time less 2 hours for arrival, add 1 hour for "unexpected" things, arrange a taxi to arrive a little before then and "go from there"
The "fly in the ointment" could be if the arranged driver is unreliable (doesn't show up on time or maybe not at all), you aren't staying in one of the "more easily found" hotels or you have a vehicle problem on the way.
question about BKK or Pattaya - prices are generally lower in Pattaya - rooms, ladies (food is about the same) There is generally less to see/do in Pattaya and the local environs. BKK is a better tourist area unless your main interest is in the bedspring boogie. Then Pattaya might be better suited because it's smaller and things are more "compact". There is also the beach (no beach in BKK)
IF you don't speak any of the language, just stay in the areas where foreigners are.
ThaiLearner
08-24-07, 13:55
Hello, I am new here. I'd like to spend 10 days in Bankok or Pattaya. Can you tell me which town is cheaper for fucking? Where are the best and more girls between Bangkok and Pattaya? What is your opinion?
I thank you for your suggestions.
Good info Dinghy
I would split my time between the two say start off in Bangkok then the rest of your holiday in Pattaya (the new airport is near pattaya).
The prices do vary from areas Bangkok being higher unless you find a bargain it depends on the girl and where you get her from.
Personally i prefer Pattaya .
ThaiLearner
08-24-07, 13:57
24.03.2007
Started off the day by unwrapping some presents as it was my birthday was still recovering from the Wifebeater fest from the night before. Watch the first game at the New Wembley. Finished off packing and my dad took me to Heathrow arrived at 1620hrs even though my flight wasn't until 2150hrs with eva air so I could watch the England game.
Well things did not start well terminal three was rammed, the queue was not long for check in but one of the terminals went down. So only one check in desk open thought it would not take long but why do some people take so long! When it was my turn I was there less than an minute. I thought excellent will soon be in the bar but NO.
First a queue to put stuff in a plastic bag then another for boarding cards then another to go through security( they only gave me a small tray as most of my stuff was in a back pack) when i got through the metal detecter my tray had tipped up and my change about £15 was all over the floor got back about £10:thumbsdow. Then another queue for passport control and then another to take your shoes off and have them checked.:angry: was not the word it was now 1845hrs and I had miss the start of the footy. Why can't they do the passports and boarding cards together, the shoes at security and the the put your stuff in plastic bags at check in I think would be quicker.:aao:
Arrived at bangkok the flight with Eva was good but we were 30 mintues late.
Went through passport control which was fairly quick and go my bag then into the main area of the airport . Its not like the old one where you can change your money and deal with the taxi touts and so on you walk straight into them. Once I had changed my money ther wer about 3-4 guys waiting for me to give me a taxi ride I said no thank you in Thai as my friend is waiting for me (lie) Then down stairs to the taxi rank that would be 400bht to go to the Nap-inn taxi driver did get a bit lost but we found it in the end he said 275bht and gave him 300.
25.03.07
Arrived at the the hotel unpacked and showered and changed, then off to explore. Managed to find Edens chose one girl who had a bit of a shape to hear and very nice firm big tits and she chose her friend who was slim. They were both very nice and I had a great time :happyi: sorry but i cannot remember there names. I was hungry so off the get some food stopped off at a street stall next to Nana and had pork noodle soup and a beer. I went back to the hotel but even though I was cream crackered I went back out to Nana stop at the bar facing the entrance and talked to a girl called A she was very attractive and fun she had two tatoos which were her eyebrows which was weird. After 3 changs I was spent I would have bar fined her but I just wanted to go back to hotel and sleep. which I did.
26.03.07
I woke up I thought right i will go to the Grand Palace today. How hard was it to try and get a taxi to take me then wanted to charge me anything from 300-700bht no thank you. I finally got one who put the meter on then he said it is quicker on the river I said what by a ferry he said no private boat 1500bht I said no thanks you take me then about 75bht into the ride he just stopped and said he had no time to take me there. I got out and did not pay him. Now I was lost :angry: ( :sad: I really wanted to see the grand palace but i had had enough. Lucky for me i found the sky train which took me back to Nana.
I went and had a coffee and then a massage just a normal one even though she wanted me to massage everything but I was not in the mood (the massage place was on the same soi as the hotel). I then went and sorted out my ride to pattaya for 27.03.07 I decided to go by minibus to save some cash and then off for a bite to eat at an aircon pub in Soi 4 . Then back to bed as i was tired.
When i got up I went to the Beer garden had a couple in there it was packed did not speak to any of the girls in there. Then has some fish soup in the outdoor restuarant opposite. I then headed to soi cowboy after having a look around i went into Longgun. Started speaking to a lad from Manchester and watched the shows in there. This was the first time i had explored Bangkok so it was the first time i had seen the this type of show. Word of WARNING when they are firing the darts at the ballons watch your eyes as if my hand wasn't there it couldhave got me in the eye. BF a girl for short time she was ok had better but also worse.
27.03.07
Woke up went and had a drink then back to hotel for minibus to pick me up at 1000hrs It arrived a bit late but i was on my way to patts. The Journey took me ages i know it would be a bit longer but hell when you arrive at your hotel in Patts after 1500hrs i was pissed off :angry:
Patts on Pattaya page
M P Lurker
08-24-07, 15:42
Gentlemen. I was plannning on spending a few nights in BK next trip, but as it happens I will now be leaving Pattaya sometime am and arriving in BK a few hours later. I have to be at the airport at 0600 the following day. Obviously a classical LT ( which I prefer) is out, so what's the best bet?
1. Pick up a FL from The Beer Garden or Gulivers early and have a few rounds and a few drinks etc, or pick up a BG or GoGo later?
I am inclined to find an early afternoon FL, take her back, do the biz, go for a few bevvies and some food, take her back, do the biz again and fuck her off about midnight so I can get to the airport for 6.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Pete
PS Giotto, you escaped I think, but I'll pop by to sus your place out.
I puzzled why you are asking for our advice, being a long time forum member and seemingly knowing roughly what YOU want to do.
Picking up an unknown girl is always risky, but if she ain't that good, just go get another.
...
PS Giotto, you escaped I think, but I'll pop by to sus your place out.
Petemcc,
How lucky I am.
Giotto
I puzzled why you are asking for our advice, being a long time forum member and seemingly knowing roughly what YOU want to do.
Picking up an unknown girl is always risky, but if she ain't that good, just go get another.
I am never too proud to ask for advice from those who know more than I do.
Giotto- you will never know just how lucky!
Thai Me Up
08-25-07, 01:42
Greetings everyone. It is time for my annual September trip to Thailand. I normally grab a taxi and head straight to Pattaya from the airport. The flight I take gets in pretty late so the bus is not an option, and by the time I get to Pattaya most of the action has ended.
This time I am traveling solo. So, I am thinking I might do things a bit different and was hoping to solicit some suggestions. Instead of traveling straight to Pattaya, I was thinking I'the take in the Bangkok night life since I never have before. I wanted to know if any of you had suggestions on a good place to stay (reasonable, nothing fancy, just need a clean secure GF place for a night) that would be close to the action and an easy taxi ride from the airport and then to the bus station the next day.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, and just like last year I promise to give you all a thorough report when I get back. I am looking forward to testing out someone's Bangkok recommendations!
I've visited the LOS a number of times over 15 years, and the worst development in that time was Toxin's introduction of 1am closing time. Its made my last couple of visits far less enjoyable- having to keep an eye on the time and consequent urgency in choosing a companion for the night. As often as not I've ended up perched on a stool at one of the after hours stalls on Sukhumvit watching the passing scene. Now that Toxin's got the boot, has anything been done about this ridiculous innovation of his?
I've stayed at the Dynasty Inn several times....it is exactly what you're looking for. About 30 min ride from the airport and right across from the Nana Hotel on Soi 4 in Sukhimvit. (sp?)
Enjoy!!
IrishLager
08-25-07, 18:48
I have a friend in Vegas who's an immigration attorney, and he hasn't failed on getting a thai into the US yet. He's a spot on lawyer who can help. I'll turn you on to his website and give any info you might need. PM me for details.
-Irishlager
1) Good luck
2) Absolutely
3) You probably don't
Bottom Line: this probably isn't going to happen.
Bringing single, young Thai women to the U.S. is almost impossible unless they have a work visa from an international company, been accepted to a school, or you are willing to spring for a K-1 Fiance Visa
NicFrenchy
08-25-07, 19:24
I wanted to know if any of you had suggestions on a good place to stay (reasonable, nothing fancy, just need a clean secure GF place for a night) that would be close to the action and an easy taxi ride from the airport and then to the bus station the next day.You could start by opening the Bangkok Hotels Thread.
Evil Penivel
08-25-07, 19:45
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, and just like last year I promise to give you all a thorough report when I get back. I am looking forward to testing out someone's Bangkok recommendations!
Thai Me Up -
Late at night, any hotel in the Sukhumvit area is about a 20-minute cab ride from the airport. The late-night action centers around the Nana Hotel (Soi 4), but you can find action all along Ssukhumvit betwen Soi 2 and Soi 33. Which hotel you choose depends on how much you want to spend, everything is available from Spartan rooms under 1,000 baht/night to the big international chains. There ar plenty of suggestions in the hotel thread.
If you stay at the Nana or one of the many other guest friendly hotels in the area, you'll be in good position to get the bus from the Eastern Bus Terminal - also known as Ekamai, located right next to Ekamai BTS station on Sukhumvit. If you're the thrifty type or don't swant to worry about getting stuck in a Suk traffic jam and are traveling light, you can take the BTS to the bus station. Take a taxi if you are carrying a heavy suitcase.
Evil
:devil:
PinkPearl,
I see where you are getting at, but it's not going to work. Don't try and cover my saying you are a lowlife (because of the way you treat people) into me being upset because you alluded to some French Things.
I have been living outside of France for 11 years now and don't miss it one bit.
The Thai P4P girls, or "Thai Meat" as you so delicately call them, are human beings, people with feelings.
That's my point. Nothing with the French. But now, if it makes you feel better to think I am calling you a "Class Act" because of your French Comments, be my guest.
Thank you, Frenchy, for that brilliant observation, that P4P "girls" have feelings. I would have never guessed that. In light of this wisdom I am wondering if I should have cried with her when tears were flowing down her pretty face because "water buffalo sick". What do you think? Is that what you did? Perhaps, being the saint that you are, you said a prayer for the two of them. Please offer a hail mary or two for me, too, since I can tell from your comments above that you know me well, even better than I know myself. After all, you know "the way {I} treat people".
You also declared that the "girls" are human beings. A very interesting coment indeed. I will need time to reflect on this. But since I am merely a "low life", like some escargot, and not a homo sapien, my feeling & thinking abilities may not be up to the task. It's good to know that on a site such as this there are superior beings such as yourself tenderly caring for lost and wicked souls such as I. Where would we be without you?
AsiaTraveler2
08-26-07, 03:08
Thank you, Frenchy, for that brilliant observation, that P4P "girls" have feelings. I would have never guessed that. In light of this wisdom I am wondering if I should have cried with her when tears were flowing down her pretty face because "water buffalo sick". What do you think? Is that what you did? Perhaps, being the saint that you are, you said a prayer for the two of them. Please offer a hail mary or two for me, too, since I can tell from your comments above that you know me well, even better than I know myself. After all, you know "the way {I} treat people".
Pink,
The more you talk, the more you confirm what Nic has said. Best to move on. This pissing contest is getting old.
AT2
Pink,
The more you talk, the more you confirm what Nic has said. Best to move on. This pissing contest is getting old.
AT2Thank you for your words of wisdom, AT2. You confirming what Nic
said means so much to me.
Yes, i suppose 2 posts each is rather a lot to stomach. Really "old", a marathon actually. Especially as the topic is Bangkok Reports. My apologies to all for that.
Since Saint Nick started the "contest" i will leave it to him to end it, but in a classy way of course, since he is such a class act.
Retired Army
08-26-07, 07:36
I have a friend in Vegas who's an immigration attorney, and he hasn't failed on getting a thai into the US yet. He's a spot on lawyer who can help. I'll turn you on to his website and give any info you might need. PM me for details.
-Irishlager
Irish,
I'm sure your friend has helped getThais into the US. However, all the visa decisions are made at the U.S. Embassy's Consular Section in BKK (by Thais I might add), not in the US. So an American laywer in the US can't do all that much other than complete the forms. Very rarely would the American Consular Officer intervene and if they do they had better have a good reason. What a lawyer in the US can probably do is to help get a work visa and that is problematic and expensive. I suspect the writer of the original post isn't going to want to spend that much money or go through that much trouble.
Following the recent debate about the standard of totty in the Eden Club I can only say that I have been more than satisfied during my visits. There seems to be a good choice and there is no difficulty finding a woman or three who give me wood.
On a recent visit to Bangkok I went back to the Eden Club for the third time. I had a Samsong and coke and watched the line up a couple of times to decide whether I would go to the left of the line or stick with the right side where entry is restricted to mouth and the other space we adolescents with men’s bodies have spent a life time trying to get back into.
I picked Noy who like a lot of Noy’s was not as small as her name would suggest. She was a relatively tall, but not fat 25ish woman with light skin. Her breasts were more than a mouthful and she had lips which looked like they were made to suck. Noy, from the South of Thailand, chose her friend from Esan, as her number two. The darker Esan girl was more petite, but bigger breasted than her team leader and nearer 30 years old.
In the lift and into the room we started the usual banter about "where you from", "how long you stay Bangkok", "you come here before." This continued in the shower after Esan girl undressed me and I her before going into the shower for the soapy, soapy and give the old man a thoroughly good scrub which she did with some fervour. I’m not sure my ring needed to be so thoroughly poked and scrubbed, but I’m not one to knock enthusiasm. Esan girl had naturally lovely stiff pointed nibbles which, like her wispy Thai muff, looked even better after I reciprocated with the soap. Meantime Noy prepared the bed and dived in the shower while Esan and I began exploratory consultations on the bed. Face kissing was allowed, but lips were reserved for the house speciality.
Noy joined us and it was quickly down to business following the normal routine. She put a pillow under my hips to ready my now rather proud cock for action. Then it started. I was lying on my back with Noy on her knees to my left with her bottom in the air within easy reaching distance. She put those made to suck lips around my cock and very noisily and with much gusto starting working out on me BBBJ. Esan girl was in a similar position on my right lyingon her right side with her head under my right knees licking and sucking my balls. Within a few seconds my left hand was buried in Noy’s box and my right was buried deep somewhere in the middle of Esan while I also enjoyed the reflection from the mirrored ceiling. Even after two previous visits it still seemed surreal and I had time to contemplate the position I was in – is this really happening to me? And yes, it was.
Noy worked hard for some time and fairly soon the mutterings started in the vicinity of my old man because I had an empty ball bag from the day before and it was clear round one was going to take some time. Like the trooper she was she stuck to the task and continued to pleasure me while Esan girl moved and sat on my face, but continued to provide oral support to her team leader. I tried to make the most of her fluffy box which had that very fleshy elastic feel to it in my mouth, but it was not long before the growing pain/pleasure in my balls was getting close to breaking point. It was all I could do to try and enjoy the view immediately in front of my eyes which was by now somewhat out of focus.
Don’t you just love the way when you start to pump it out they keep on sucking you until every drop has been extracted from your throbbing cock? I find that the women from this part of the world really do this well, with no gagging and with a smirk on their face as they look you in the eye. They then go into the bathroom to dispose of the results of their endeavours.
After that it was time to rest for a while, but on the grounds that I was paying for the pleasure I encouraged Noy and Esan girl to give me a show. The bag of tricks was opened and out came this rather knobbly red dildo which Noy strapped on and offered to stick in me. Err, no thank you, but please feel free to put it in Esan which she did slowly from behind doggy fashion while Esan girl started to try and with some success suck some life back into me while I watched the action.
After a few minutes temptation got the better of me and a hat was slipped on by Noy. I took Esan slowly from behind while I looked down and held tightly onto her hips while she put her mouth on Noy’s equally interesting, pert, hair free pussy. It was the first time I really had a chance to look at her naked and full length. As good as Esan felt it was Noy who caught my eye in the line up. So it was all change and with a new hat on it was away we go, and go and go until my second portion arrived with a grunt and a groan.
The whole session was completed back in the shower where Esan again showed me her soapy, soapy technique. Fortunately without giving my ring another going over – while Noy tidied up the scene of the get-together. When we were all ready it was back down to the bar where they hung around me like a couple of goal hangers while I paid the bill. Including a tip shared by the women the total cost for the threesome was 4000 Baht plus my drinks which were not expensive.
To recover from my exertions I had one more Samsong and coke at the bar before leaving. During this time the line up took place twice more which gave me a chance to think who would have the pleasure to pleasure me next time. Because there definitely will be a next time for this boy scout.
As I ambled up the road to the Sky Train and even though it was not my first time I could not help grinning and thinking – Wow!
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Evil Penivel
08-26-07, 22:35
Irish,
So an American laywer in the US can't do all that much other than complete the forms. Very rarely would the American Consular Officer intervene and if they do they had better have a good reason.
Retired Army is right. The Thai employees at the U.S. embassy are expert at recognizing girls with a background in P4P and ex-BGs will never get a tourist visa. If it is a legitimate marriage, she might be able tol get a spouse's visa, but only if she's been out of the game a long time and has a spotlessly clean record. However, even then it's not easy or quick.
A colleague (U.S. citizen from birth) who works in the Bangkok office of the same company I do is married to a Thai woman who was never involved in P4P. She is a university graduate and could document how she'd spent every month of her adult life through university transcripts or employment records from foreign-owned enterprises. It still took nearly three years for her to get a visa. Only a limited number of visas to the U.S. are granted per month and even if the Consulate approves the application, the woman may have to wait months for her turn to get it stamped in her passport.
My colleague's wife's visa was approved after about two years, during which time they had a child. While they were waiting for final issuance of the visa, his great-grandmother, in her 80's, began to fade quickly. He asked the Consulate if they could get priority on grounds of a family emergency - if they got to the U.S. in time, Great Grandma could see her first great grandson before she died. If they were too late, at least they could attend the funeral.
No way. Luckily Great Grandma hung on for another six months and did get to see the baby. My colleague had letters of support not only from the chairman of our company - a major U.S. multi-national - but also from religious and political figures in Great Grandma's home town, including one from her Congressman.
None of that helped. The rules have been written so that procedures can't be trumped. Otherwise, every visa application would be a case of who has the biggest friends.
I doubt very much a U.S. lawyer can do much to help with a tourist vsa for a BG. For a businessman, investor or tourist who has millions of baht in assets in Thailand, the lawyer can make sure all the forms are filled in correctly, all the documentation is in place, etc. But for a BG, it just isn't possible short of a miracle.
Evil
And humorous. I was laughing so hard at the way you described things that I had tears coming down my cheeks.
Thank you.
Lookin
Three days in Bangkok at the Nana Hotel.
First, I firmly believe most of the non-sex worker people in Thailand can barely contain their contempt for foreigners, such as myself. No its not me, I always exercise the uttmost in manners, sometimes to the point of being effusive. I was treated particularly bad while shopping.
The Nana Hotel - all in all for the "first timer" this hotel was good. Shabby and run down a bit, but clean. They do some little things well, e.g., do not stock the mini-bar, which I like (once in the PI, after I fell asleep, 2 "ladies" made off with about $30 (US) worth of stuff), good breakfast included with room charge. I paid in the neighbood of 1650b for a Superior Room.
Come evening - hell all day - the scene in the hotel is very entertaining. A constant parade of girls with their clients. You are actually propositioned right in the lobby. Later in the evening the girls line up in the parking lot for the choosing. Ironically, you would think most of them would be scags, but they are not. A lot of good looking women hang in the parking lot. In fact, I wound up choosing the same gal for my three nigth stay. Unheard of for me, since I really like variety. I would go as far as to say they were a lot better looking than many in the beer bars.
Beer Bars (Bar Beer) - A disappointment. On average, I would rate these gals a 5. I cannot bring myself to go higher. The language thing is a big problem also. In a number of cases, I had to use another girl as an interpretor, ruins the atmosphere. I am probably spoiled from my 15 years of going to the PI. All in all, a rather disappointing experience.
Go-Go Bars - The attitude of the management is absolutely terrible. In many cases I would tell them I wanted to walk around and, if I saw something I liked, I would buy her and I a drink, which happened on occasion. The problem is they follow you around with flashlights and are a general nuisance. When you are out for a good time, this is a real downer. The girls are good looking but, again, the problem is language. I like to talk and joke around, but this is very difficult.
Soi Cowboy - a mirrow image of the above.
At the end of the first evening around 1am I found myself in the Nana parking lot. Saw a blonde gal (Fon) with very nice body and good looking face. With clothes off I would give her a 7.5. Negotiated a price of 1500b for all the extra's. Made it absolutely clear to her I pay for performance and if not satisfied she would not get the full amount. I was more than satisfied. She worked very hard to please.
Although I made the same rounds the next two nights, beer bars and Go-Go's, I wound up going back to her. Her command of the english language helped.
Now, on to Pattaya. Will be back next week for one night and will try the Club Eden. So much contraversy need to do it.
AsiaTraveler2
08-28-07, 06:10
Three days in Bangkok at the Nana Hotel.
First, I firmly believe most of the non-sex worker people in Thailand can barely contain their contempt for foreigners, such as myself. No its not me, I always exercise the uttmost in manners, sometimes to the point of being effusive. I was treated particularly bad while shopping.
Come evening - hell all day - the scene in the hotel is very entertaining. A constant parade of girls with their clients. You are actually propositioned right in the lobby. Later in the evening the girls line up in the parking lot for the choosing. Ironically, you would think most of them would be scags, but they are not. A lot of good looking women hang in the parking lot. In fact, I wound up choosing the same gal for my three nigth stay. Unheard of for me, since I really like variety. I would go as far as to say they were a lot better looking than many in the beer bars.
Beer Bars (Bar Beer) - A disappointment. On average, I would rate these gals a 5. I cannot bring myself to go higher. The language thing is a big problem also. In a number of cases, I had to use another girl as an interpretor, ruins the atmosphere. I am probably spoiled from my 15 years of going to the PI. All in all, a rather disappointing experience.
Go-Go Bars - The attitude of the management is absolutely terrible. In many cases I would tell them I wanted to walk around and, if I saw something I liked, I would buy her and I a drink, which happened on occasion. The problem is they follow you around with flashlights and are a general nuisance. When you are out for a good time, this is a real downer. The girls are good looking but, again, the problem is language. I like to talk and joke around, but this is very difficult.
Soi Cowboy - a mirror image of the above.
At the end of the first evening around 1am I found myself in the Nana parking lot. Saw a blonde gal (Fon) with very nice body and good looking face. With clothes off I would give her a 7.5. Negotiated a price of 1500b for all the extra's. Made it absolutely clear to her I pay for performance and if not satisfied she would not get the full amount. I was more than satisfied. She worked very hard to please.
Although I made the same rounds the next two nights, beer bars and Go-Go's, I wound up going back to her. Her command of the english language helped.
Now, on to Pattaya. Will be back next week for one night and will try the Club Eden. So much contraversy need to do it.
Billpsu,
Where did you shop? I do find the street vendors a bit pushy, but I don't think I ever felt mistreated. Of course at MBK, Emporium, etc. they always treat you well, as long as you look like you have money! LOL!
I would agree that the english ability of the girls in the PI, give them that advantage. I have enjoyed my times there, but still prefer Thailand. Angeles still has a place in my heart, though. At least I think it's my heart that's thinking.
I met up with a girl in the Nana car park Sunday night. I was supposed to meet her again last night, but I spent the whole day with freelancers and the soapies and I just did a crash an burn at midnight. Woke up at 4:00am in my clothes and looked at the clock. Uuuugh!
AT2
ParnellCat
08-28-07, 08:37
Hey Billpsu,
I'm glad you mentioned the Nana, it deserves a tribute for the great mongering destination it is. I've been passing through it for almost 20 years and nothing much has changed, except the pool. I'm sure the breakfast is the same as it always was. I'm now mid 40's and spend 2-3 months a year on business in Bangkok and usually stay at the Sheraton or Landmark, both of which are girl friendly but lack the honesty and fun of the Nana.
The thing about the Nana is just that, its absolute honesty. It doesn't pretend to be anything it's not. It's All about the monger. And a monger is nothing more than a man who's true to his nature.
There's no walk of shame. More a walk of fame with mongers displaying their catch of the day, the hour or the half hour.
You will never feel out of place in a packed elevator with a girl who's gone a little over on the makeup and under on the clothing.
Some of the bellhops have been there 20 years plus and they've seen it all. The rooms may be a bit jaded but room quality is not the reason to stay there. It incredibly well run for a mongering operation and its booked out most of the year. You occasionally hear great conversations there, the best I heard was from a Scandinavian guy who woke up to find he'the caught crabs and had covered his genitals in toothpaste and chilli paste on the recommendation of his short time girlfriend. Aaah lessons learn't.
The Nana carpark is a crapshoot, you never know what you'll find there. The fact that it operates is the whole point.
Long live the Nana.
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Billpsu: Nice Report!!
The Go Go staff does overdue the flashlight thing, but grab a seat and check out the girls. If you see one you like on the other side of the room just go to the bathroom and have a closer look on the way. The exception to this is the King's Castle group in Patpong. I was hounded by flashlights and requests for ladydrinks even by the waitresses. I finally left and never went back.
I've been to Angeles once and liked it for a one or two day visit. I got completely bored there quickly and don't even get me started on fiken cherry girls.
Looking forward to your comments especially about Eden. I've never been there before and have read mixed reviews as well.
FritsVanegter
08-28-07, 11:29
Hello,
Soon I will travel to Thailand for about 6 weeks. After a week or 2 I wanna make a trip outside Thailand to have a change of taste. I have been to Penang, KL, Siem Reap, Hanoi, Saigon. I wanna travel by travel plane on a direct flight from BKK. Maybe PP will be nice, Jakarta, Philippines. I have been reading around the site but I think it would be nice to have some advice. Will go out of BKK for a week or so. I don't like go go bars that much. I love beergarden style girls or streets around midnight in BKK. Philippines is good for meeting girls that can speak english. BKK some girls are good talkers but not in English and sometimes I get fed up with their double standard way of thinking. Any thought that could help me make a decision would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Frits
Yes, for a first timer it is the place to go. No inhibitions, just enjoy the scene in every sense.
Exampe: struck up a brief friendship with one the guys at the security desk, when I brought my "catch of the day" back he asked me and the girl - in perfect english - "any luggage." We all laughed out loud for about a minute.
Hey Billpsu,
I'm glad you mentioned the Nana, it deserves a tribute for the great mongering destination it is. I've been passing through it for almost 20 years and nothing much has changed, except the pool. I'm sure the breakfast is the same as it always was. I'm now mid 40's and spend 2-3 months a year on business in Bangkok and usually stay at the Sheraton or Landmark, both of which are girl friendly but lack the honesty and fun of the Nana.
The thing about the Nana is just that, its absolute honesty. It doesn't pretend to be anything it's not. It's All about the monger. And a monger is nothing more than a man who's true to his nature.
There's no walk of shame. More a walk of fame with mongers displaying their catch of the day, the hour or the half hour.
You will never feel out of place in a packed elevator with a girl who's gone a little over on the makeup and under on the clothing.
Some of the bellhops have been there 20 years plus and they've seen it all. The rooms may be a bit jaded but room quality is not the reason to stay there. It incredibly well run for a mongering operation and its booked out most of the year. You occasionally hear great conversations there, the best I heard was from a Scandinavian guy who woke up to find he'the caught crabs and had covered his genitals in toothpaste and chilli paste on the recommendation of his short time girlfriend. Aaah lessons learn't.
The Nana carpark is a crapshoot, you never know what you'll find there. The fact that it operates is the whole point.
Long live the Nana.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
NicFrenchy
08-29-07, 04:02
I don't like go go bars that much. I love beergarden style girls or streets around midnight in BKK. Looks like you answered your own question. Stick to the BG and SW then.
It is not really my kind of hunting Ground so I can't help you with details there.
BKK some girls are good talkers but not in English and sometimes I get fed up with their double standard way of thinking. Any thought that could help me make a decision would be welcome.Not sure what to say here. If you don't like the way Thai Girls think, then maybe Thailand isn't for you. Best to stick to your Trip to the PI.
I think that Thai Girls are very nice if you are nice to them, if they start to bullshit you, then tell them you're not having it and send them away, there always will be another girl that will be willing to take care of you.
Now, a week is enough for you to be able to pull a freebie. Go to MBK or other popular place, talk to some girls, take them eating, movie, dancing.
they should be in your bed by day 3 ;)
Good luck with your trip.
I smiply will not patronize a place where staff is a nuisance.
In Pattaya now and will do complete report on Pattya Board when I am finished. However, they seem far more tolerant here (Pattaya) about letting you look around before deciding to buy a drink.
Billpsu: Nice Report!!
The Go Go staff does overdue the flashlight thing, but grab a seat and check out the girls. If you see one you like on the other side of the room just go to the bathroom and have a closer look on the way. The exception to this is the King's Castle group in Patpong. I was hounded by flashlights and requests for ladydrinks even by the waitresses. I finally left and never went back.
I've been to Angeles once and liked it for a one or two day visit. I got completely bored there quickly and don't even get me started on fiken cherry girls.
Looking forward to your comments especially about Eden. I've never been there before and have read mixed reviews as well.
MBK Plaza, some gold shops around the corner from the Nana, and some of the tailor shops I visited.
In all fairness, there was one exception, I am having some suits made at Raja Fashions across from Nana. Did a lot of reading and actually met a guy at the Golden Bar that used him. I am sure I could have gotten suits cheaper (paid about $225 US each) but I wanted to make sure I got a quality suit. Still cheap by US standards.
Anyway, I was treated very nicely there by the staff. The guy who runs the place has great people skills, e.g., witty, interesting, and really puts you at ease.
As for everywhere else, terrible attitude toward foreigners.
Billpsu,
Where did you shop? I do find the street vendors a bit pushy, but I don't think I ever felt mistreated. Of course at MBK, Emporium, etc. they always treat you well, as long as you look like you have money! LOL!
I would agree that the english ability of the girls in the PI, give them that advantage. I have enjoyed my times there, but still prefer Thailand. Angeles still has a place in my heart, though. At least I think it's my heart that's thinking.
I met up with a girl in the Nana car park Sunday night. I was supposed to meet her again last night, but I spent the whole day with freelancers and the soapies and I just did a crash an burn at midnight. Woke up at 4:00am in my clothes and looked at the clock. Uuuugh!
AT2
Sean_Double
08-29-07, 04:56
MBK Plaza, some gold shops around the corner from the Nana, and some of the tailor shops I visited.
In all fairness, there was one exception, I am having some suits made at Raja Fashions across from Nana. Did a lot of reading and actually met a guy at the Golden Bar that used him. I am sure I could have gotten suits cheaper (paid about $225 US each) but I wanted to make sure I got a quality suit. Still cheap by US standards.
Anyway, I was treated very nicely there by the staff. The guy who runs the place has great people skills, e.g., witty, interesting, and really puts you at ease.
As for everywhere else, terrible attitude toward foreigners.
Yo Billpsu,
Great!. From now on you can rely on the friendy staff at Raja Fashions to answer all your questions.
Sean
I smiply will not patronize a place where staff is a nuisance.Then you should avoid going to Eden Club.
M P Lurker
08-29-07, 11:19
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There's no walk of shame. More a walk of fame with mongers displaying their catch of the day, the hour or the half hour.
You will never feel out of place in a packed elevator with a girl who's gone a little over on the makeup and under on the clothing.
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... Or walk of shame with Ladyboy catch on display.
Last time I was in the Nana Hotel elevator I was uneasy as I thought the Lady boy was following me. I got out and turned right. So did "she".
Fortunately "she" knocked at a different door and a much shorter guy came out to greet "her" all smiles and kisses. I suppose he knows what he likes ???
Nana Hotel is down market and classless, IMHO. Its not that far to the Dynasty Grande around the corner if you want a much better class of Hotel, for just a little more.
But I understand that unashamed mongers will go for the Nana due to shear convenience.
For bar districts I feel that Soi Cowboy is way ahead these days in eroticism, nudity, shows, few LBs, and superior girls, and can stay at the nearby Livingstones Lodge. Very few Nana bars are worthwhile to me with Angel Witch the only one I found not to be thoroughly boring (although haven't tried them all). But others obviously like Nana district for some reason.
Mick,
I totally agree with you that "Soi Cowboy is way ahead these days in eroticism, nudity, shows, few LBs, and superior girls. " Even at the soi itself, outside the bars, the girls are not pushy, fun to chat with, and after a little playful tug and shovel, will walk back to their station with a laugh and some witty parting words. Besides that, it's perfectly safe chatting and teasing the girls, even a little hugging and kissing before entering a different bar.
If you need a meal, snacks, grasshoppers they will pop out to get for you, no problems.
My fav place, btw.
Jeremy
Professor 1
08-29-07, 16:22
Three days in Bangkok at the Nana Hotel.
First, I firmly believe most of the non-sex worker people in Thailand can barely contain their contempt for foreigners, such as myself. No its not me, I always exercise the uttmost in manners, sometimes to the point of being effusive. I was treated particularly bad while shopping.On a very basic level, I cannot fault the locals for this. If folks with money, upper-middle class and upper class, individuals came into my downtown area, took nearly all of the cute girls for entertainment, then left; I would be inclined to have some contempt. This would especially be so if such entertainment was lucrative as it is.
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