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Old Thai Hand
11-10-06, 19:52
I had a Thai woman call me "naja". Is this a term of endearment or a bad thing. I tried to Google it and can't seem to find out anything. Not sure if it's a slang. I figure that you all here would know.
Thanks
She didn't call you, 'naja'.
'na ja' is part of an expression as in "pai theo na ja" which could mean, let's go out, ok? or Are you going out?" depending on the context in which it's said. In any event, it's a friendly ending to a statment or question which more or less means "yes or no? or ok?".
She didn't call you, 'naja'.
'na ja' is part of an expression as in "pai theo na ja" which could mean, let's go out, ok? or Are you going out?" depending on the context in which it's said. In any event, it's a friendly ending to a statment or question which more or less means "yes or no? or ok?".Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. The only word I could see that had meaning was a "snake" or "cobra". I suppose I'm neither.
Nhscotsman
11-11-06, 02:51
Not only did you give a nice report, you also put an idea into my head on an optional way to get to Bangkok. Maybe I'll fly into Singapore and then take a cheap flight into Bangkok or even better yet, maybe a flight into Pattaya.
Nhscotsman
Alfa Romeo
11-11-06, 15:38
Big Boss appeared at my desk and asked me to join him with another two colleagues on a trip to Bangkok to participate in some meetings with clients. I have not been to Bangkok for 20 years and told him that I had been thinking myself already joining the delegation for thesake of the company. As Big Boss was heading the delagation they boked us a business class flight on thai, I can only say that I remember much worse flights. In bankok they booked us in Nai Lert, well I have been to worse places.
After the first day of meeting I was too jetlaggy to go out, so no action. Next day, still jetlaggy I walked, after an official dinner on behalf of the company, down Sukhumvit, located darlings and went in for a blowjob, did not cost much time nor money and was well worth the trouble.
Next day I again strolled out a night, found Beergarden, was disappointed as I expected a garden and not a normal bar. However on my second rounnd one of the ladies attracted my attention. she did not look like a thai girl but I cwas not able to caterorize her To make the story short, she came from the cambodian border,was 29 years old, turned out to be very friendly and was dressed decently. After a drink we agreed not to spend the night alone, As I did not want to walk across the lobby of the hotel with her with the danger encountering one of my colleagues, I asked her to follow me 30 minutes later, I would take a shower before. In the hotel, I was just undressed for the shower when the phone rang and the receptionist asked whether he should permit the lady asking for me to come upstairs, guess the answer.
In the room,she then agreed to my proposal for showering together and behaved very shy on undressing. Her body tuned out to be top class, dark skinned well shaped small firm breasts, slim, exactly what I like. In the shower she lost the shyness quickly, her pussy was shaved althought with the last shave already days ago. She wanted to freshen up the shave, I said I would do it, no problem from her side.,This gave me the opportunity for a close visual inspection and it whas good what I saw. In bed she was a top performer. as a matter of fact she made so much noise that I for a moment was concerned that the colleague sleeping next door would take notice.
Later she told me that she did not have sex for 2 weeks. This gave me the kick to think about extending my repertoire of standard questions I ask to the girls before entering into detailed negotioations. E.g. I usually asks if she likes making love and things like this; asking for how much time she did not have sex could maybe also be intersting.
She stayed all night, three rounds gave her 3000 Bahts. Next night I met her again and enjoyed another night with her nefor heading to the airport for returning home.
As the things in the meetings went well, I shall return to Bangkok. No question of motivation.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
As is well reported here, things can be hit or miss in BKK.
The Majestic concierge is a good guy and arranged a car and an English-speaking driver for me to look around Bangkok (first day). It turned out the driver had so-so English, and it was hard to understand him, but he was diligent and trustworthy and took me round the city showing me the major sights. A trip on the river is a must for all visitors, and we took a long-tail boat and zipped up and down the waterways, getting both a sense of the city and of its history. Went to temples and the Grand Palace, and the damage was only 200 baht per hour – 1200bt for 6 hours of touring. Not bad at all.
After dinner and a cultural show, and feeling a little tired, I went next door to Annie’s to relax with a massage. It’s a dingy entrance, but I like that. It sort of feels like entering the underworld, which gets me in the mood. There’s a bar upstairs and I found a sad collection of pissed British males waving their arms around and singing incoherently, and the girls were all on their cell phones, although quickly smartened up by the mamasan.
It’s true, as many here have said, that the selection is not great – but you’re only looking for one, right? And I saw a cute, tight little body with a nice face over in the corner looking a bit uninterested in the whole fishbowl performance, and since it was late and I didn’t want to go looking around I picked her - number 9, Nang from Bangkok, she said.
Bit of a mistake. In the room (which was not run down or grungy as I have read here) she pinned up her hair and got down to business getting the tub and towels ready – but sort of with the air of a cleaning lady. I, however, was looking for a ***** not a cleaning lady. When the clothes came off, her tits were flat and empty-looking, her body very thin, and although she had a nice smile and was pleasant enough, there was no chemistry at all.
So then I realized why the Brits were in the bar.
To cut a short story even shorter, I had two pops with her, one in her mouth in the bath, and the next on the bed after a repetitious massage in which she went over the same spot on my back about fifteen times. Won’t return – but only because the place (or I) lacked energy at that particular moment. Cost: 1500 baht.
Next day, the concierge came through again with a car and this time a good English-speaking driver and we went off early in the morning to the Floating Market at Damnoen Saduak. It’s about 2 hours drive from the city, and you have to get there early, but it’s not to be missed.
Since this Forum has a particular purpose, I won’t bore you with the details, but I did have a great time in one of the world’s unique travel spots. A shopping experience unlike any other.
Anyways, back in the city later in the day, and after a nap to catch up on the jet lag, I decided I did want to take a look at Patpong, despite all advice here. Although I had read the Forum and knew what to expect, in fact it was even worse.
Haggard, toothless touts latch on to you as soon as you round the corner into the soi, and stick like leeches, yelling in your ear. I could have bought three suits and a girl within thirty seconds. I was looking for the famed pussy shows, just out of prurient interest, and escaped from the fangless dogs up some dark stairs into the Pussy Bar, or something like that.
Hideous experience. Bored tubby girls listlessly grinding their hips at the pole, almost no customers (discounting of course the pissed British males), and as soon as I sat down at the bar I was surrounded by a swarm of piranha-like women in a kind of feeding frenzy. One was grabbing my crotch, another had her arms around my neck, a third was in my face talking about going inside for a nice time, someone else trying to massage my shoulders, while the barmaid was quoting 300 baht for a beer! Before I could say no and get the hell out, a beer appeared, and I knew there would be a problem if I just walked away. Gave her a 500 and she gave me back a 100. I argued about the other 100 but got nowhere. Shitty fucking place.
I sank the beer within a few minutes, shook off all but two of the piranhas, watched the fat girls shooting darts at balloons with straws sticking up their cunts, and got the hell out.
Lesson learned. Trust the Forum. Not even a learning experience was worth that much.
Took the sky train to Nana, as I should have done in the first place, and went into Spanky’s. Something about the place just felt good – it’s a small bar on the 2nd floor, and the girls were having fun – laughing, teasing each other, warm welcoming smiles for the customers but no pressure, and good rock music. Attractive girls (the outside hostess was hot and very friendly but not ‘working’) all in Spanky uniform bikinis. They started this coordinated bar dance, like the movie Coyote Ugly, and it was really hot, and my eye fell on a very sexy dancer who looked both athletic and smart.
When her dance shift was over she came by and right away we hit it off. Good eye contact, good English, intelligent conversation, a cut above your average bar girl, I thought, and after a 10 second negotiation about money she agreed to 1500 baht for ST. Paid the 600bt BF, and she came back about 10 minutes later dressed like the girlfriend I always wanted. Not slutty, but well dressed, good clothes, nice shoes, and she took my hand as we walked through the streets to the (thankfully) nearby Majestic.
Easy entrance (she hands in her ID at the desk, they ask for my room number, the bell boy looks at me like I just ate his lunch) and upstairs. No hassle.
She was perfect in every way. Simply fabulous. Only two restrictions – no anal and no video. “You video your wife” she says! But she reluctantly agreed to a couple of photos. Name is Nam. Not your average bargirl. Professional parents, not supporting anybody except herself, lives in her own house, drives a motorbike, saving up her earnings, going into business one day. Man, I wish I were 20 years younger.
Some misses and finally a hit, in Bangkok.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Sorry, must have clicked the wrong button.
Here's the pics of Nam from Spanky's.
Old Thai Hand
11-12-06, 03:19
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. The only word I could see that had meaning was a "snake" or "cobra". I suppose I'm neither.
The mythical snake of the Ramakien (Thai tale based on the Indian Ramayana) is the Naga, not na ja. Na ja is two words and is slang said in a familiar way to friends and intimates. It wouldn't be said to a stranger or someone higher than you.
The mythical snake of the Ramakien (Thai tale based on the Indian Ramayana) is the Naga, not na ja. Na ja is two words and is slang said in a familiar way to friends and intimates. It wouldn't be said to a stranger or someone higher than you.Thanks again Old Thai Hand. It's a girl I've been spending some time with and have known for several months. She is not in the "business" but a local Thai woman. I was afraid that I said or did something to make her upset. You've eased my mind.
I have a question. What constitutes a Report of Distinction. Some of the recent reports is in no way constitutes a distinctive report. And then give the author the right to post it in that forum. I feel only members other than the author or the moderator should be able to post it in that section.
Your thoughts Jackson.
Old Thai Hand
11-12-06, 04:46
i have a question. what constitutes a report of distinction. some of the recent reports is in no way constitutes a distinctive report. and then give the author the right to post it in that forum. i feel only members other than the author or the moderator should be able to post it in that section.
your thoughts jackson.
1ball and others including me had a go about this awhile ago.
it seems the criteria these days is first and foremost, to be a newbie with the less posts the better, be a first-time visitor to los and finally have eyes filled with wide-eyed wonderment, like a kid at christmas at all that's on offer at nep, nana parking lot, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), the beer garden, walking street and of course that bastion of machine-like fucking precision, eden and then to report your cookie-cutter experiences in wordy verbiage for all the newbie-wannabes freezing their asses off with some fat-cow wife in wichita, lutton or dusseldorf.
now you know. any questions?
1ball and others including me had a go about this awhile ago.
it seems the criteria these days is first and foremost, to be a newbie with the less posts the better, be a first-time visitor to los and finally have eyes filled with wide-eyed wonderment, like a kid at christmas at all that's on offer at nep, nana parking lot, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), the beer garden, walking street and of course that bastion of machine-like fucking precision, eden and then to report your cookie-cutter experiences in wordy verbiage for all the newbie-wannabes freezing their asses off with some fat-cow wife in wichita, lutton or dusseldorf.
now you know. any questions?sad but very true. the report of distinctions are not of any use anymore.
This is a relatively new escort type service with an increasing menu of tasty ladies. I dont know what to make of it. Is it real or a scam? Prices seem to be in line with what one would expect for a full nice with an off the new cutie.
Anyone try this? Got a report?
Bill Miami
11-12-06, 09:08
To Tiger 1 & Old Thai Hand,
You know what, so who gives a damm!!! Most of your post, if not all add nothing to the site!!!! But increasing your number of post!!! When you 1st came here you were just like the new posters, in a world of amassment. Let them post all the information they want for people coming here for the 1st time to enjoy and hopefully explore additional post.
Just for you information, the 1st time I read either of your posts, I find helpful, enlightening, funny or informative, will be the 1st time I have read either of your post I did not consider a waste of time!!!
Before either of you talk crap, look at my post. And you will find out your not the only one that lives here. But, at least I give just a little thought into my post, might want to try it!!!
Miami,
Get a new keyboard, your !-key is stuck.
Of course people tend to show amazement on the first trip. But not all. Some, few rather, came well prepared and showed it in their posts, giving great advice to other newbies in the process.
OTOH, no forum is for newbies only. Where would virgin Thailand goers be without the guiding hand of old Thai hands? My answer is clear: In the hands of the Lonely Planet, the guide book that takes fun out of travel:(.
Also I've often said that expats have no business on the forum - they do not travel and most live miserable lives. I stick to that opinion. They should be in a forum of their own: Stuck in Thailand.
Planing a trip from December til February. Will there be pussy in that timeframe? Where do I find a hotel in Pattaya? Is there action in Nana? Is the new airport open yet? I want to go to Isaan - where is it and do they have roads?
Enough!
Regards,
Freeler
Old Thai Hand
11-12-06, 11:49
To Tiger 1 & Old Thai Hand,
You know what, so who gives a damm!!! Most of your post, if not all add nothing to the site!!!! But increasing your number of post!!! When you 1st came here you were just like the new posters, in a world of amassment. Let them post all the information they want for people coming here for the 1st time to enjoy and hopefully explore additional post.
FYI I was never "in a world of amassment" coming here (LOL). I won't speak for myself, but my friend, Old Trafford Hand has posted a couple of funny bits and I also think Tiger has posted lots of useful information, contrary to the astounding amount of info you've posted in your amazing 27 posts. But, again what does one expect from one of the habitues of Pattaya...not exactly the intellectual elite down there.
The kind of posts that deserve reports of distinction status are class acts like Ozzie Indo on Giotto's board. His recent adventures with Uzbeki Girl are an excellent read. Read his reports and compare them to the boring dreck often nominated by Jackson, and note the difference.
Freeler
Come on. honestly, what expats do you know who lead miserable lives? Most that I know are quite happy, travel a lot and have the advantage of the most up-to-date info about what's going on here and the chance to experience it all, if they choose far more frequently, than some newbie coming here for his 2 week shag-o-thon.
Just wondering, have you read Coma Boy's Blog? There's an expat living the dream...that is, if he doesn't kill himself with excess...LOL
Retired Army
11-12-06, 12:07
OTOH, no forum is for newbies only. Where would virgin Thailand goers be without the guiding hand of old Thai hands? My answer is clear: In the hands of the Lonely Planet, the guide book that takes fun out of travel:(.
Also I've often said that expats have no business on the forum - they do not travel and most live miserable lives. I stick to that opinion. They should be in a forum of their own: Stuck in Thailand.
Planing a trip from December til February. Will there be pussy in that timeframe? Where do I find a hotel in Pattaya? Is there action in Nana? Is the new airport open yet? I want to go to Isaan - where is it and do they have roads?
Enough!
Regards,
Freeler
Good post Freeler. You are correct on two points; but, I disagree with your assessment of expats in Thailand. The ones I know love it here and have better lives than they would have back in their home countries. Most don't want to travel because it's just a pain in the ass. I, on the other hand, travel all the time, both for pleasure and work. In the past two weeks I have spent time in Germany, Korea and the U.S. And with my Thai Airways Gold Card, my Qantas Platimum and my United 1K I can go anywhere I want, but I choose to be in Thailand because the living is sooooo good.
Retired Army
11-12-06, 12:22
As is well reported here, things can be hit or miss in BKK.
I decided I did want to take a look at Patpong, despite all advice here. Although I had read the Forum and knew what to expect, in fact it was even worse.
Hideous experience... Shitty fucking place... got the hell out.
Lesson learned. Trust the Forum. Not even a learning experience was worth that much.
I wish I were 20 years younger.
Some misses and finally a hit, in Bangkok.
Good report. I cant' speak for Old Thai Hand, but I assume that he and I are on the same wave length. We both have Thai girlfriends and don't monger much, but we like to lend our experience to newbies so they have a good experience in LOS and avoid most of the bad experiences you have described.
It pisses my off when people attack OTH because he gives excellent advice. Some people are just too stupid to take it.
And don't a lot of us wish we were 20 years younger. I first came to Thailand when I was 20, but I was too young to really appreciate the experience until I was more matrure.
As I had stated in an earlier post, I was lucky to get my wallet back that I had left in the taxi from the airport so I was hoping to do a bunch of stuff I had never had time to do before.
Day 1- After I had a so-so round with the freelancer from Nana on Saturday night, my friends told me they were going to Tarawadee (www.tarawadee.com) on Sunday afternoon. When we got there at 430pm, there were very few girls in the fishbowl. The sideliners had their own fishbowl and there were very few girls in there also. We all finally choose a girl before 6pm because it was 300 baht off on Sundays. By the time we left around 8pm, there were approximately 10 girls in the regular fishbowl and upwards of 40 in the sideliner fishbowl. Also there were about fifteen models sitting by the bar. Prices run from 2100 baht and 2500 baht for regular fishbowl to 3200 baht to 3500 baht for sideliners. The models ran 4500 baht to 6000 baht. My recommendation is to go around 6pm and hang out because a lot of the girls are upstairs. A lot of the asian guys take the girls for double sessions. I saw girls that came down and gone within five minutes. Food here is priced average and is decent.
I picked a girl from the fishbowl and she cost 1800 baht with Sunday discount before 6pm. She gave a bbbj and was decent in the sack but not well above average. Gave her 500 baht tip. I made the mistake of giving her my cell because she called constantly during my stay in BKK and at all hours. I would have took her out but she didn't speak much English and my thai sucks. I would give this girl a B-.
We went to eat at Natong Seafood in Ming Jai afterwards and I highly recommend that place. They have a live band there and food is priced very well. There was seven of us and I think it only cost 3K with a ton of food. Pineapple rice, fish maw soup, vegetables, crab, fried fish, egg omelettes, pork thigh, calamari and moo yong. Place closes at 11pm.
We all went our separate ways afterwards because everybody was staying at different hotels. I called a girl named Aom who used to work at King's Castle in Patpong but I met her on Suk while she was eating with her friends. She stopped working there because she didn't like the structure of having to go to work every night. Now she just hangs out around discos or eats on Suk hoping to pick up a customer when she is not lazy. She always charges 2k for ST and won't budge from that. Anyways, she gives GFE experience and I was a happy camper with my second shot of the evening. I would see her more but she doesn't go to sleep until 6am every day and wakes up late in the afternoon. This girl gets a B+ but I think it is because we click and YMMV.
Day 2- Woke up and called my buddy who was raring to go at noon. We decided to try Aviva (www.avivabkk.com). I picked a girl named Pubay or something like that and mamasan told me it was her first day and I was her first customer. She used to work at some regular MP in Silom area without any extras and it showed. She gave an excellent thai massage but I had a boner so I couldn't really enjoy it. She finally asked if I wanted a special and said how to proceed. I thought she was joking but she wasn't. I should have told her anal is the norm but I don't think I could have said that with a straight face. I gently grabbed the back of her head and moved it toward my penis. She gave a decent bbbj but when I was about to mount her, she started asking how much I was going to pay her. I said 1500 baht and she was confused because she thought that included the 600 baht for the oil massage paid to the mamasan. By the time she understood, time was almost up and she was worried about being taxed by the mamasan if we were five minutes late. I lost my erection and was barely able to cum after another bbbj. 2100 baht damage and I rate this a C.
In the evening, we went to Tulips and I found one of my favorites(Nestle) there. Damage was 2100 baht for 1.5 oil massage and special. Rating for this session was A-. Went to Suan Lum night market after and went shopping.
Day 3- My friend had a great session at Tulips from the night before so we went back the next day in the afternoon. I picked another girl named Gung and she gave a nice, slow and long bbbj. She didn't do anal but she gave one of the best blow jobs I have ever had. I rate this an A- also.
After going to Siam Paragon for shopping, I called a regular I met at Gulliver's. She only charges 1k for ST. I usually give her a little more for taxi. She gave an above average bbbj and we did it in multiple positions until I was exhausted. Jet lag was starting to sink in because I wasn't sleeping much. I was going to keep her long time for only 1500 baht but decided I rather sleep alone. By the way, Siam Paragon has a decent restaurant on the forth floor I think that overlooks the street and would be a good place to take a date. Has about eight different types of menus ranging from chinese to sushi to middle eastern food. Very diverse clientele.
Day 4- Okay I went to Hana's massage on Suk 22 because I wanted a balls massage from the famous Rin. She is not a looker but I have read she gives a great balls massage. If it is not done properly, either it is very painfull or does nothing for you. I called and made an appt. with her. Was a little hard to find but I got there eventually. Rin gave a pretty good thai massage and then proceeded to do the balls massage for about 30 minutes. Then she started giving me a handjob and I didn't come so I fucked her mouth with my dick. Still didn't come and I was horny as hell, so I lifted up her dress and pulled down her panties and finished off the session. Even though I would normally never pick Rin because she is much older and looks not to my taste, I don't regret going there. I recommend this for guys looking to get a balls massage. I don't know if it was psychological or not but after the balls massage, I think I came more. I don't know, maybe I was just horny on this trip. Here is the website for Hana massage. Rin is part owner and only works there a couple of days while the rest of the time she is still at Subway in Ratchada. (http://hanamassage.web.fc2.com/index.htm). Damage was 500 baht for massage and I gave Rin 1500 baht since she gave me a handjob, bbbj and sex. Not sure what I was supposed to give her and I don't know how she came to 500 baht for the time spent. Rate this session an A- because it was different.
That night I called my friend Aom again from King's Castle for another session and that was rated B. Nothing new but she sure is sexy.
Day 5-I had another place on my list that I have been meaning to try and that was Oranges on Soi 31. (www.orangesbkk.com) I saw Was on the website and thought she looked fine so I booked her for a two hour session. I was disappointed because she was much darker than her picture and must have been wearing a push up bra. Anyways, she gave me a bath in a small wooden tub and then proceeded to give me an okay oil massage. Asked if I wanted the special and I said of course. Gave a BBBJ and proceeded to mount me and rode me for a good fifteen minutes. After changing a few positions, I finally came in doggy. I would rate this a C+ only because I had high expectations from her pic on the website. Damn photoshop!! However, she wasn't bad but I don't think I would repeat. Damage was 2100 baht total.
In the evening, we were going to Nana plaza and I got accosted by a girl named Sugar. She said she needed money to pay for her mortgage because she just got a divorce from her farang husband who just left her with the car and condo. She said she didn't want to lose either and makes only 10k a month at her full time job. Said condo was almost paid off but had a while on her car payments. Says she is always a few thousand short so she comes to Nana to work. I said I wanted to go hang out with my friends in Nana plaza for awhile and ended up having her join us. I didn't see anything that piqued my interest at the four bars we went to so off I went with Sugar. Average session for 1k even though she had a nice body. She was a little money hungry and tried to have me commit for the next day which I declined. She asked for some gas money and I gave her a couple hundred baht for her small car since she did drive us around to go eat. Rate the session a B-.
Okay more on Days 6-9 later.
Good report. I cant' speak for Old Thai Hand, but I assume that he and I are on the same wave length. We both have Thai girlfriends and don't monger much, but we like to lend our experience to newbies so they have a good experience in LOS and avoid most of the bad experiences you have described.
It pisses my off when people attack OTH because he gives excellent advice. Some people are just too stupid to take it.
And don't a lot of us wish we were 20 years younger. I first came to Thailand when I was 20, but I was too young to really appreciate the experience until I was more matrure.I like to add. I WAS 20 when I first time came to LOS now I am 52 the greatest time in LOS was the years 1990 to 1995 in Patpong, that time every thing was wild in patpong. Fun started only at 11pm and ended early morning 7AM. Mostly we just went home for shower then go work. This every day like so. After the financial crash 1997 came the closer 2AM of all entertainment place. Since then Patpong has change. Change also due SARS. Chicken flue. Tsunami. Tourist mostly western came less and less to patpong night market. Also the called sex tourist came less and less due some liberation in europe of legal prostitution. And so far the internet with this online information about the bad bevaviour of the tai girl prostitute is more or less also resulting in less arrival to LOS. By far LOS is no more much in demand as for 10 years ago. Guess patpong in the next 10 years will loose his go go bars. The place who picked up is sukhumvit with the street bar open till 6AM soi 6 to soi 15. I also remember that Ratchada poseidon emanuel was unknow by us westener this place as pick up only since 2000 and now with the opening of subway its more popular for westener. Thats my point of view. Sorry my english not so good.
Retired,
I should have made it clearer that I meant travel in Thailand. Expats are not the ones to point you to hotels or give info on transportation. Most have a cave of their own and only venture out with their own 'iron buffalo'. Hence...
Regards,
Freeler
Retired Army
11-12-06, 22:07
Retired,
I should have made it clearer that I meant travel in Thailand. Expats are not the ones to point you to hotels or give info on transportation. Most have a cave of their own and only venture out with their own 'iron buffalo'. Hence...
Regards,
Freeler
Good point. About half the expats I know have cars and the rest don't. I don't have a car, but my GF does. However, we seldom use it because of the traffic and it's usually cheaper and easier to take public transportation. What might be more correct is to state that we expats don't arrange our own transportation. I let the "little lady" take care of everything as do most of the other expats who have Thai wives or GFs.
The Traveler
11-12-06, 23:32
I had a Thai woman call me "naja". Is this a term of endearment or a bad thing. I tried to Google it and can't seem to find out anything. Not sure if it's a slang. I figure that you all here would know.
Thanks
Khunk,
"na ja" is simply the "sweet" form of "na ka" (women) / "na krap" (men), which is used at the end of a sentence and - as OTH already pointed out - means "yes or no ?" or "ok ?".
BTW, it's also often used by katoeys :D
M P Lurker
11-13-06, 11:31
Khunk,
"na ja" is simply the "sweet" form of "na ka" (women) / "na krap" (men), which is used at the end of a sentence and - as OTH already pointed out - means "yes or no ?" or "ok ?".
BTW, it's also often used by katoeys :D
'na' is an urging word meaning sort of 'O.K.' semi-questioning or 'I hope that is O.K. with you' or 'go on'.
'ja' has no meaning in English and is just a sentence terminator to make the sentence more polite and less forceful.
'ja' can be used by males or females, but I suggest that you don't use it without understanding clearly when it is appropriate.
It is quite informal and used when speaking to someone very familiar or to someone of lower social station, e.g. children.
Never use it with someone important, as wouldn't be appropriate.
I would not use it speaking to a monk, or anyone I don't know well unless was a child.
Khrap (or Khap) is the safe polite word for men to add to end of the sentence.
Katoeys sometimes like to use ambiguous words that are not particularly female or male, like 'ja' or 'ha'. Others are confident enough to use female words like 'Kha'.
When I first started speaking Thai, I got into trouble sometimes by copying what Thais said without fully understanding the context and meaning subtleties. I meet many Farangs who speak Thai in a very vulgar ugly way or sometimes just low class way because they have copied the style of bar girls.
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Arrival was good. If it wasn't for the moving sidewalks I would have died, man we covered some distance getting to Immigations. The first hall was closed, that threw a few people off, I had alread read of multiple immigation halls and found the next one just a few hundred meters down the walk way. Immigations was swift, finding our baggage carousel was a hassle, the number wasn't advertised on the plane. The information boards in the baggare clain area are spread out, it took a minute to find one. My baggage arrived fine.
On the arrival level there were no taxis, just a bunch of blood sucking limo touts wanting 900 to 1200 Bt to town, lol lol no way. No Directions to public Taxi's, thank goodness I had read about how to find them. I went down one level and all the cabs in BKK were there. I went to the far left which seemed to be the quicker station, the one to the far right looked to have a few hundred people waiting. I had to wait about 20 minutes to get a metered cab to town.
I went to Suk soi 33, it was 200 bt on the meter + 50bt airport fee + 65bt for expresswa fees (close to this amount). I tipped the guy 50 bt.
Airport ratings
Arrival gate to immigations, thank goodness for the moving sidewalks. -A
Immigations A
Bakggage claim B (the information boards are spread out)
Taxis D+, no directions to the stands and very long lines.
Departed a few days later. Drop off was good, I liked the fact they had baggage dollies at the outside traffic islands. A
Check in at BKK air was quick and professional A
Departure tax B ( it's a frigging tax )
Departure immigrations was fairly fast -A
The departure area has a ton of shops but NO seating. I walked for ever to get to my gate and saw one set of 4 sets. Other than that you had to sit in a bar or resturants. D
Only the Thai Air lounges are wll marked and directions were lacking. I was looking for the Bangkok Air Business traveler lounge which wasn't marked at all. D Email sent to Bangkok Air.
Waiting gate area. Fairly nice but the windows which make up 99% of the exterior are filty and stained. Someone forgot window cleaning is an essential part of up keep and maintenance D
We had to ride a shuttle busses to out plane. The Business class bus was nice a cumfy for those of us who had seats, 4 people had to stand for about 20 minutes D
Flight departure was deplayed almost 45 minutes, not weather related as it was clear D
Only one hotlel close to the new airport and it's expensive D
What more can I say C is the best I can do. Oh if you disagee, fine, you have the rights to your opinion just as I have mine and mine are not going to change.
Shamas O'Dognasty
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SidTheSexist
11-14-06, 06:22
Nice report about airport Shamas.
Im wondering, is the old trick of catching a taxi from departures still possible or have they stamped it out? I stay not far from the new airport when I hit BKK and seen as a taxi to my destination will not cost a great deal more than the base rate, it seems silly to pay an extra 50bht when the total cost will barely reach 100bht.
Im sure Ive read that its not possible, but has anyone confirmed it yet?
I will be arriving at the airport at 1am and will be at the JW Marriott Hotel on Sukhumvit around 2am. Where's a good spot close the there to find a woman for the night after a long flight from LA?
Thanks Guys.
Nice report about airport Shamas.
Im wondering, is the old trick of catching a taxi from departures still possible or have they stamped it out?<...>
Im sure Ive read that its not possible, but has anyone confirmed it yet?
Works fine for me. On the 4-5 arrivals I've had Suvarnabhumi, I've always gone upstairs to Departures to catch a taxi home. Heck, I don't even know where the taxi queue is.
Cheers,
-Y
Fivebahtwiz
11-14-06, 08:03
Great report Shamas, you can clean my tanks anytime.
Khunk,
Walk around Sukhumvit, you'll probably meet some nice girls. Smile and see what happens.
If you are to tired, go straight to the Nana parking Space (good place) or go to the Siam Hotel, parking place.
I will be arriving at the airport at 1am and will be at the JW Marriott Hotel on Sukhumvit around 2am. Where's a good spot close the there to find a woman for the night after a long flight from LA?
Thanks Guys.
Here are a few places, nana hotel parking lot on soi 4, along soi 3 to grace hotel . and along sukumvit from soi3 to soi 13 or so. watch out, a lot of lady boys and various characters. don't tell them you just arrived, as they will over charge you. long time with decent girl should be 1500bht or so.
Here are a few places, nana hotel parking lot on soi 4, along soi 3 to grace hotel . and along sukumvit from soi3 to soi 13 or so. watch out, a lot of lady boys and various characters. don't tell them you just arrived, as they will over charge you. long time with decent girl should be 1500bht or so.
Another data point: While a bit further afoot, one can always wander down to the next BTS station, Asoke (Soi 23, about a 10min walk), and visit the sidewalk bars at that intersection with Sukhumviit. Most of those bars are open till sunrise. I've had good luck with some FLs there, but certainly one must experience the Nana Hotel parking lot at least once. :)
Cheers,
-Y
Nice report about airport Shamas.
Im wondering, is the old trick of catching a taxi from departures still possible or have they stamped it out? I stay not far from the new airport when I hit BKK and seen as a taxi to my destination will not cost a great deal more than the base rate, it seems silly to pay an extra 50bht when the total cost will barely reach 100bht.
Im sure Ive read that its not possible, but has anyone confirmed it yet?
On my last trip I was in and out of the airport 3 times and used the regular queue downstairs twice and the departures level once. Both times downstairs went without a hitch, but with the extra 50 baht they made sure the driver knew where to go.
On the one departure level try, the driver tried to negotiate a set price of 500 baht to Soi 33. It should only be a bit above 200. I made him turn the meter back on. I probably should have not gotten in to the cab but he had the damn meter on until I was in the back seat when he turned it off and announced his robbery. But in the end he lived by the meter and there were no further problems. I had to remind him that I was not a tourist and knew how things worked. Luckily he spoke enough english to understand that I was serious and wasn't going to play his game.
For the first time visitor I would suggest using the arrival level official cabs. You won't have to worry about cab drivers trying to take advantage of you. The 50 baht fee should guarantee everything stays honest. I never had any sort of wait there, always just walked up and into a cab.
What more can I say C is the best I can do. Oh if you disagee, fine, you have the rights to your opinion just as I have mine and mine are not going to change.
...just one mark above an "F". You're being kind, because you like Thai women...
Really. I travel alot and spend alot of my time in and out of airports, and I can't believe that this is an airport built in the 21st century. Considering all of the amazing new airports that have been built over the last 10-15 years especially the Asian ones like Hong Kong, Seoul, Osaka and Singapore, all the new technologies and designs available that can be used to enhance the customer's experience, and the time that they took to finish it, this one is just the worst of the lot.
I agree with most of your points;
* the excessive walking
* the boxes and garbage and informal seating and drinking and lounging areas for airport workers that you see alongside the airport roads as you ride the bus from your plane to the terminal
* the terrible signage or lack thereof ( I actually found one handwritten sign near a staircase pointing downwards that said "Taxis")
* the fact that all of the signs point to the limos charging 3 times more than the actual charge
* the lack of any place to sit near the gates
* the dirty windows
* poor lighting
* poor baggage indicators
* lack of smoking areas while waiting departure (This is Bangkok isn't it?)
* that stupid exit tax, which requires all departing passengers to go to the one manned booth, wait on a line which blocks the line of people waiting to hand in the ticket that they purchased, and then have to wait on line to hand the ticket at the one manned gate
* more excessive walking to find a coffee shop to sit in, because the business lounge is impossible to find and the one smoking area is downstairs from where you need to be
* lack of garbage cans and ashtrays outside the terminal
* and even the airport access roads which require multiple turns and red lights to get on the highway.
* I'm sure that I've missed or forgotten something
I was there 3 weeks ago for a short 30 hour visit, and the arrival and departure form the airport were the low points of my trip. The only rationalization that I can think of is that the city authorities wanted visitors to extend their authentic Bangkok experience to the airport so they not only placed a Buddhist statue right after passport control, they also made sure the same type of planned disorder and unclean environment continues at the airport.
I actually think that this is a downgrade from the old airport...
The Traveler
11-14-06, 23:54
When I first started speaking Thai, I got into trouble sometimes by copying what Thais said without fully understanding the context and meaning subtleties. I meet many Farangs who speak Thai in a very vulgar ugly way or sometimes just low class way because they have copied the style of bar girls.
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Mick,
I have seen that many times. Many - if not most - farangs are very vulgar due to the fact, that they learned "Thai" from P4P girls. Many of those girls don't think about what they teach or believe it's fun to teach bad words and even intentionally teach crap.
I have witnessed a case where a farang wanted to know how to greet and thank at a restaurant and instead of telling him the girl taught him very bad words. I told the guy and explained the girl that her wrongdoing may cause trouble to the guy.
Additionally most farangs pronounce very very bad even though pronounciation is a very important part of Thai language. Even Andrew Biggs does not pronounce very well.
Nhscotsman
11-15-06, 02:19
Another data point: While a bit further afoot, one can always wander down to the next BTS station, Asoke (Soi 23, about a 10min walk), and visit the sidewalk bars at that intersection with Sukhumviit. Most of those bars are open till sunrise. I've had good luck with some FLs there, but certainly one must experience the Nana Hotel parking lot at least once. :)
Cheers,
-YI get a kick out your saying one must experience the Nana Hotel parking lot at least once. Is it really that bad?hahaha. I even love it too when people say that people coming to BKK, they should stay at the Nana Hotel at least one night, just to e xperience the hotel and its location. I am coming in March and I'm almost afraid of what the Nana's parking lot holds. I look forward to experiencing Nana Plaza but the parking lot is frightening me and I haven't even arrived in BKK yet...lol. Is it just a meat market where they tug and grab at you all the time as you walk through it? Also, with the freelancers, are they as notorious as some people make them out to be or are they ok for the most part? The LB’s won’t bother me either way, but I hate the thought of dealing with some freelancers that are outright nasty or obnoxious. I’m as laid back as they come and get along with anyone, so I suspect I will have a great experience either way. You people that post on this forum, I hope you do realize what a great service you do posting your advice and your experiences from your travels within Thailand. I can’t thank you all enough!
Nhscotsman
Nhscotsman,
You have nothing to worry about at the Nana Parking lot - its all quite safe and civilized for the most part and perhaps receives more notoriety than it deserves. Its just a quick and cheap alternative to the go-go bars that are across the street and if you are staying at the Nana nothing could be much more convenient than hopping down on the elevator and taking a quick stroll thru the parking lot and should someone catch your eye take her back up to your room - mission accomplished in 5 minutes.
Girls begin accumulating there around 9pm and the numbers gradually grow up to maybe on an average night to 30-40 girls - until near the 2am magic hour where a bunch of girls will show up for the mass male exodus from the closing bars and closing Nana disco - and many of the girls who didn't get lucky in the disco will stop and hang out in hopes of last last shot at some baht. The numbers then may swell up to 70-80 or so on a good night. I have found some beauties in the NPL in my time but on average the girls are just that - quite average with many of them having had kids. But my experience with them over a number of years has been very high in terms of friendliness, never had a problem with them stealing anything and service is usually pretty good because many of these girls show up every night and they want repeat biz. Most go for 1,000 baht. And they rarely harrass you in the parking lot - most just stand there and try to make eye contact - its the general rule that its up to the guy to say something. I love the NPL - not just for the girls there but for the view of all the mishmash of humanity that takes place just outside its doors.
The airport was built with commercialization in mind. Basic passenger comfort and accommodation seem to have been a distant thought. The lack of readily available restroom facilities and the mile hike from the immigration area to the departure gate stood out to me as huge negatives.
I also did not see the (foot) massage shops that the old airport had but maybe those will come later. Perhaps passengers can submit their suggestions or complaints to the airport management with the hope that improvements can be made when the next airport is built.
...just one mark above an "F". You're being kind, because you like Thai women...
Really. I travel alot and spend alot of my time in and out of airports, and I can't believe that this is an airport built in the 21st century. Considering all of the amazing new airports that have been built over the last 10-15 years especially the Asian ones like Hong Kong, Seoul, Osaka and Singapore, all the new technologies and designs available that can be used to enhance the customer's experience, and the time that they took to finish it, this one is just the worst of the lot.
I agree with most of your points;
* the excessive walking
* the boxes and garbage and informal seating and drinking and lounging areas for airport workers that you see alongside the airport roads as you ride the bus from your plane to the terminal
* the terrible signage or lack thereof ( I actually found one handwritten sign near a staircase pointing downwards that said "Taxis")
* the fact that all of the signs point to the limos charging 3 times more than the actual charge
* the lack of any place to sit near the gates
* the dirty windows
* poor lighting
* poor baggage indicators
* lack of smoking areas while waiting departure (This is Bangkok isn't it?)
* that stupid exit tax, which requires all departing passengers to go to the one manned booth, wait on a line which blocks the line of people waiting to hand in the ticket that they purchased, and then have to wait on line to hand the ticket at the one manned gate
* more excessive walking to find a coffee shop to sit in, because the business lounge is impossible to find and the one smoking area is downstairs from where you need to be
* lack of garbage cans and ashtrays outside the terminal
* and even the airport access roads which require multiple turns and red lights to get on the highway.
* I'm sure that I've missed or forgotten something
I was there 3 weeks ago for a short 30 hour visit, and the arrival and departure form the airport were the low points of my trip. The only rationalization that I can think of is that the city authorities wanted visitors to extend their authentic Bangkok experience to the airport so they not only placed a Buddhist statue right after passport control, they also made sure the same type of planned disorder and unclean environment continues at the airport.
I actually think that this is a downgrade from the old airport...
Member #3200
11-15-06, 19:03
my 1st 3 nights in thailand i will be in BKK staying at the royal asia lodge,how far away is the Nana hotel from there,love 2 check out the scene there 1 night maybe more,can someone post the address so i can taxi it there if the walk is 2 far from my hotel or PM me the address
thx
Royal Asia to Nana is I would guess about 500M Between 10 and 15 mins walk (the sidewalk traffic is a bit congested)
Royal has a free tuk-tuk from their place to the intersection with Suk and a call box around the corner on the wall at the intersection to the right (ask the driver to show you)
I would like to point out to all the detractors of the new airport that Thaksin was warned that he was opening operations before everything was complete, but went ahead anyway - thats all history now.
I can only assume that the glitches will eventually be sorted out - in Thai time - apart from the design that is a done deal.
Having gone through the airport in October I can say that I thought some of the design's are based on the old 'port and the ground hostesses while checking in could have been more friendly. If anyone has gone through Heathrow its hell to get from one place to another, just as an example. Some airports are just not user friendly,period.
The Sushi that I had before boarding was perfect.
Buzz,
If the new airport is only remotely as bad as LHR, I'd rather fly to KL and walk the last bit:(.
freeler,
i think that lhr is hugely worse than suvarnabhumi with terminals rep001tered all over the damn place - anyway, i am sure that thoughts of bkk, pattaya and all those lovely ladies are a good distraction from the little inconviences that we might encounter while navigating the new the airport.
i get a kick out your saying one must experience the nana hotel parking lot at least once. is it really that bad?hahaha. i even love it too when people say that people coming to bkk, they should stay at the nana hotel at least one night, just to e xperience the hotel and its location. i am coming in march and i'm almost afraid of what the nana's parking lot holds. i look forward to experiencing nana plaza but the parking lot is frightening me and i haven't even arrived in bkk yet...lol. is it just a meat market where they tug and grab at you all the time as you walk through it? also, with the freelancers, are they as notorious as some people make them out to be or are they ok for the most part? the lb’s won’t bother me either way, but i hate the thought of dealing with some freelancers that are outright nasty or obnoxious. i’m as laid back as they come and get along with anyone, so i suspect i will have a great experience either way. you people that post on this forum, i hope you do realize what a great service you do posting your advice and your experiences from your travels within thailand. i can’t thank you all enough!
nhscotsman
nhscotsman -- i am a very laid back guy too and having been to bkk over 25 times since the late 70's i can tell you to relax and just enjoy the circus. nana parking lot is just plain fun. grab a beer from the nana hotel bar and just watch the girls, boys, girlboys, punters and laugh. i always end up in very funny conversations with people there even until the wee hours of the morning. the only thing that causes stress is that about an hour after nep closes the police often come by and rep001ter the thai's. its like birds on a wire with everyone walking quickly out of the parking lot to escape the cops. they will not bother you at all.
enjoy!!!!
deep
The Royal Asia lodge has a website so go look at it first. I think they still have a page where you print the address out in Thai to show the Taxi driver. The Royal Asia is on Sio 8 almost at the end of the Soi toward your left on Sukhumvit Rd.
Royal Asia has free Tut-Tut that runs up and down the Soi that will drop you off about 10 meters from Sukumvit near the Nana BTS station. From the drop off point it's about a 3 minute brisk walk to Nana which is around the corner on Soi 4. You'll see alot of people congesting here and you won't miss it if your life depended on it. On Sukumvit the Road the Odd Soi's are one the opposite side of the street and the even Sois are on your side. You'll actually notice at night a lot more activity on the Odd Soi's. Except for, NEP Soi 4, the even side is much more subdued. Along the walk from Soi 8 to Soi 4 you'll notice a few small shops then an unfinished construction site that's been idle for many years, crossing Soi 6, then a vacant lot then small office building and then the Landmark Hotel. After the Landmark you see some small shops including a Subway sandwich shop and then the Majestic Suites right before you arrive at Soi 4. Right at the intersection there will be Tourist Police Station overlooking the intersection. Make a left on Soi 4 and you'll start to see some beer bars and then left again to enter NEP.
Recently, due to construction around Soi 8 and Sukumvit and maybe to a new permanent location, the Royal Asian Tut-Tut button to summon the Tut-Tut driver has been moved near the outside of a massage shop about 10 meters further than it was before. The movement to the new location seemed to have happen fairly recently. You'll need to push this button to get a ride back to the Royal Asia lodge unless you happen to wait until someone is catching a ride down to Sukhumvit. The Royal Asia Tut-Tut runs more or less on demand basis 24 hours per day.
... staying at the royal asia lodge,how far away is the Nana hotel from there?
Thanks
Stayed at the girl-friendly Sheraton Sukhumvit in Bangkok for a couple nights. Really the hotel is more than girl-friendly, at 2AM the doormen rush to hold the door for you and the lady, made me feel welcome, unlike some other places.
Turned left our of the hotel and walked to nearby NEP. It's cheap but really the place is filthy, including the parking lot. But nice for a couple drinks. Went to the first bar on the right the first night and to Angelwitch the second after reading the forum. True Angelwitch had a good, partially-clothed show.
I just did not feel like picking a bar girl and went to CM2 at the Novotel Siam Square to experience just a little more of that "hunting" feeling, though 99% the girls there are working there. But it's just more upscale and there is no pressure from the girls.
Ended up with the same girl both nights and got good service, including BBBJ CIM. She wanted to sleep in my room, which would have been nice in other circumstances, almost had to kick her out.
Going to Manila tonight, Thai vs Filipinas, hard to decide...
M P Lurker
11-16-06, 10:26
Royal Asia has free Tut-Tut that runs up and down the Soi <cut>
That would be a 'Tuk-Tuk' mate, as in the sound that a badly running engine makes. These 3 wheel motor-cycle taxis usually run rather noisily.
A Tut is a bum or some gay man/boy who likes to get it up the bum in Thai slang.
M P Lurker
11-16-06, 10:33
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I even love it too when people say that people coming to BKK, they should stay at the Nana Hotel at least one night, just to e xperience the hotel and its location. <cut>
Well its a rather embarassing Hotel to stay at if you happen to want to take a more classy chick back to your room.
Its not necessary to stay there to experience the parking lot.
There are plenty of better Hotels nearby. Most of the experienced Thai visitors/mongers wouldn't stay there anymore.
We wish to have a more classy image even if secretly depraved.
Then again I did stay at the Dynasty Inn not so long ago which is a little too close by really.
I just got back home 12hrs - will post as I remember (ramdon order), how else can anyone organize their thoughts after these endless BKK nights?
But best bargain I found was from Sukumvit/Soi 23 to airport - bus #552. Approx 1hr to airport 35bht air-con. also stops at ekami and onnut also. Connection should work well from airport connect to BRT if not much luggage.
Nhscotsman
11-18-06, 03:14
Well its a rather embarassing Hotel to stay at if you happen to want to take a more classy chick back to your room.
Its not necessary to stay there to experience the parking lot.
There are plenty of better Hotels nearby. Most of the experienced Thai visitors/mongers wouldn't stay there anymore.
We wish to have a more classy image even if secretly depraved.
Then again I did stay at the Dynasty Inn not so long ago which is a little too close by really.Mick,
Do you like a particular hotel near Nana Plaza that you like? I know Nana Hotel is kind of seedy and from what I have read over the months, if someone does stay there, EVERYONE advises to stay in the deluxe or a suite at Nana and not the run of the mill room. But there must be a nice hotel near Nana Plaza that is a deal too. One of the things I look forward to when I come to BKK is experiencing the parking lot though. I have read so many ummmmm "adventures" from the Nana Parking lot....haha. I'm going to find spot and just watch.....haha. As I have said time and time again, you people make me laugh nightly. It's like a ritual every night to surf this board. I can only hope when I'm there in March to meet a few of you. Have a great holiday and an even better weekend.
Nhscotsman
Nhscotsman
11-18-06, 03:56
Hi,
I was curious. How many of you have been fooled by overly beautiful LB's. And when you have taken a lady back for either LT or ST and then you realize that she is a he? I was curious if it happened often and how did you handle it. I would think that most would just give them a few baht and send them on their way. I read how often people are fooled by their beauty and that some of you must get them back to their rooms and then. Ooooops! Hahaha.
Nhscotsman
Majestic suites is the place to stay. Great rooms, great location right around the corner from nana. Loved my stay, rooms a little small but I'm not there to run a marathon in the room. 5 star accomadations at 3 star prices.
happened with me twice on this trip, once while walikng towards my hotel in pattaya, when one who was riding his scooter stopped and asked me if I wanted a massgae, however his voice was cracking and he was way too tall and preety to be a woman, I told him sorry but I had a friend waiting for me in walikg street and began to walk away.
Later next day in Bangkok, I saw another LB who was dressed as the manageress of a bar in nana plaza, he told me later he has 20% share in the bar asked him if she would go out to which she said yes, when we reached the room on top of the nana plaza, she wouldn't shower with me, wanted to dim the lights saying she was shy and did not take her towel off, I thought there was something wrong and she was trying to hide something between her legs, we had not even begun when he lay upside down and said I should penetrate his ass which he called pussy, I forcibly put my hand between the legs and felt something different, that was it, I got so annoyed and disgusted, and almost felt like throwing up, till today I remember the feeling I had, it was purely disgusting, and I simply hated myself and everything around me for what had happened, I told the LB to fuck off, saying he was a LB and never wanted one as I was not into all this, could not get my money back as I had already paid for it in advance at the bar I guess the LB did know such a thing would happen and was playing cautious (always be careful if some one asks you for an advance), I quickly put my clothes on, and ran from there, the LB kept saying "what happened', me no good. , I give good suck, ok. But I was way too duisgustedd, I ran as fast as I could.
Later had the feeling which probably jim carrey had in the movie ' ace ventura' pet detective, went back washed myself from everywhere, though he had hardly touched me but still I felt reallt dirty and pathetic. Even so that later I started getting disgusted with the whole country and the slime there, I hate to say it but I hate Thailand for this, everythinhg there, next morning I booked my flight out of there a day before schedule and came back from this scumhole. Don't know if after this I would go back there.
BT
Hi,
I was curious. How many of you have been fooled by overly beautiful LB's. And when you have taken a lady back for either LT or ST and then you realize that she is a he? I was curious if it happened often and how did you handle it. I would think that most would just give them a few baht and send them on their way. I read how often people are fooled by their beauty and that some of you must get them back to their rooms and then. Ooooops! Hahaha.
Nhscotsman
Retired Army
11-18-06, 08:08
Mick,
Do you like a particular hotel near Nana Plaza that you like? I know Nana Hotel is kind of seedy and from what I have read over the months, if someone does stay there, EVERYONE advises to stay in the deluxe or a suite at Nana and not the run of the mill room. But there must be a nice hotel near Nana Plaza that is a deal too. One of the things I look forward to when I come to BKK is experiencing the parking lot though. I have read so many ummmmm "adventures" from the Nana Parking lot....haha. I'm going to find spot and just watch.....haha. As I have said time and time again, you people make me laugh nightly. It's like a ritual every night to surf this board. I can only hope when I'm there in March to meet a few of you. Have a great holiday and an even better weekend.
Nhscotsman
A lot of people like the Majestic Suites or the Majestic Grand. The best is the J.W. Marriott. If you go on the Marriott web site you can often find a deal.
Asshole Big
11-18-06, 09:35
Hi,
I was curious. How many of you have been fooled by overly beautiful LB's.
NhscotsmanYou get what you see and nothing else.
Best Regards,
Asshole Big
I always stay at the Majestic suites while I am in Bkk. Its just around the corner from Nana Plaza and the Nana hotel.
The rooms are rather small, but nice and clean. THe service from the hotel is outstanding. The food in their restaurant is actually on the better side, and its just about 1500 bath for a double superior room. Be aware you have to book in advance. They are always full.
Have a happy stay.
Ken
Hi,
I was curious. How many of you have been fooled by overly beautiful LB's. And when you have taken a lady back for either LT or ST and then you realize that she is a he? I was curious if it happened often and how did you handle it. I would think that most would just give them a few baht and send them on their way. I read how often people are fooled by their beauty and that some of you must get them back to their rooms and then. Ooooops! Hahaha.
NhscotsmanI'm not sure you'll get many replies to your question.
First, you'd have to be drunk or blind not to spot them. It's true many of them are really beautiful, but they fall into a distinct class of SPs by themselves, are usually taller and with ineradicably masculine features. A few minutes of conversation usually suffices.
Second, some guys seem embarrassed to say they have been with a LB. This despite the fact that straight men are the LBs main clientele. Few here will own up to having done the deed.
Third, this Forum is for men seeking or reporting on sex with women. LB reports, as I understand it, are not allowed.
A lot of people like the Majestic Suites or the Majestic Grand. The best is the J.W. Marriott. If you go on the Marriott web site you can often find a deal.
Yes the 2 majestics are the ebst deals.
If you are on a budget, go to Majestic suites, it's 1350 B for a superior room, directly booked through their website. No pool, no view, but friendly service, GF, and everything available, safe, internet etc..
If you can spend a bit more, Majestic Grande is better, book through asiarooms, it's cheaper than directly with the hotel
Macross2006
11-18-06, 19:41
Did HK's ******.com moved to BKK?
Enter your email on the "services" - they will email to you on the services offered by the girls... :) and got a search function too! Hope they built up their database.... fast
But the prices are ridiculously high.
What does the rest think of this site?
Latest post in his great Bangkok blog by http://morallydiminished.********.com/
ha ha ha
Coma boys post::
"So last night was dragged off to some overpriced shithole, and ended up ditching my companions and drinking B52 shots with a pack of Russian hookers, who, for those of you not resident in Bangkok, are rife here. Not actually Russian, rather a selection of Eastern-European nations and former Soviet states. Some worked as models part-time and then sold their white-asses by night.
One stereotypical belief that follows such girls is that they drug customers, and rob them blind after unconsciousness strikes. It's certainly not an unusual occurrence here, although Arabs seem to be the most popular targets. Apparently katoeys use the same tactic. Good old katoeys.
So, anyway, when one of these girls, who was either Ukrainian or Estonian, pulled out this mini-bag of mysterious glassy-crystals and suggested I try some in my glass, I was a little concerned, but nonetheless knocked it back. Apparently it was some sort of "sex-drug", and the girls were drinking it too. But, at no point during the night did I notice any symptoms out of the ordinary.
A few hours later was in some Thai lady's bedroom all the way out at fucking Bangna, and once her juices started flowing, and after she'd been pulled inside-out, I noticed she had a pretty bad yeast-infection. You know, the cottage-cheesy crap that comes with candidiasis. White chunks came surfing out on her waves of pussy juice, covering the sheets and condom.
Anyway, at one point, she realized how wet she was, and knowing how much I enjoyed eating down there, started two-finger-scooping juice and, unfortunately, chunks of clotted yeast straight into my mouth, which had me gagging and retching and resisting. Didn't really consume any, that's not my thing, probably very few people's thing in fact. Instead, quickly educated her on the topic, and carried on with the "love-making".
Hope I don't contract oral-thrush, but so far my mouth feels fine. Sometimes from eating pussy you can feel this weird coating in the inside of your mouth for a day, but it seems to vanish spontaneously.
Considering where my mouth has been am surprised I've never contracted any oral nasties. I mean, over the decades I must've eaten countless tiny particles of faeces while rimming, and it seems to have had little effect other than having made me cooler and wiser."
Traveler1234
11-18-06, 23:31
Latest post in his great Bangkok blog by http://morallydiminished.********.com/
ha ha ha
Considering where my mouth has been am surprised I've never contracted any oral nasties. I mean, over the decades I must've eaten countless tiny particles of faeces while rimming, and it seems to have had little effect other than having made me cooler and wiser.
Welcome to the FKK club king!
Listerine - preferably the mint flavored stuff is highly recommended :D
Did HK's ******.com moved to BKK?
Enter your email on the "services" - they will email to you on the services offered by the girls... :) and got a search function too! Hope they built up their database.... fast
But the prices are ridiculously high.
What does the rest think of this site?Marcross,
You are right. Same website format. Has anyone tried this? It is a bit spendy but the selection is sure tempting. I noticed that if you request information about the ladies. It tends to come back with the same information for most ladies. Some cuties. I wonder where they get them and if they actually deliver.
If someone tries this.. pls let us know.
JD
Sebastian My
11-19-06, 09:37
Latest post in his great Bangkok blog by http://morallydiminished.********.com/
A few hours later was in some Thai lady's bedroom all the way out at fucking Bangna, and once her juices started flowing, and after she'd been pulled inside-out, I noticed she had a pretty bad yeast-infection. You know, the cottage-cheesy crap that comes with candidiasis. White chunks came surfing out on her waves of pussy juice, covering the sheets and condom.
Anyway, at one point, she realized how wet she was, and knowing how much I enjoyed eating down there, started two-finger-scooping juice and, unfortunately, chunks of clotted yeast straight into my mouth, which had me gagging and retching and resisting. Didn't really consume any, that's not my thing, probably very few people's thing in fact. Instead, quickly educated her on the topic, and carried on with the "love-making".
Hope I don't contract oral-thrush, but so far my mouth feels fine. Sometimes from eating pussy you can feel this weird coating in the inside of your mouth for a day, but it seems to vanish spontaneously.
Considering where my mouth has been am surprised I've never contracted any oral nasties. I mean, over the decades I must've eaten countless tiny particles of faeces while rimming, and it seems to have had little effect other than having made me cooler and wiser.
I have to take my hat off to you (Coma Boy), you are a true monger. To continue your activities after ingesting some vaginal infection is something that astounds me. Actually you remind me of my Russian friend who will let nothing stop him from enjoying himself - he has no problems with cunnilingus or intercourse with a menstruating women (actually - he claims he has developed a taste for it - yukk). This ability annoys the hell out of the girls who hang around the pool rooms at soi, who often try the "I am bleeding, so let me only jack you off, for the same price" routine. I think he may stop at ingesting fecal material - but who know?
Anyway - remain cool and wise.
Old Thai Hand
11-19-06, 13:06
Sebastian
This didn't happen to Wan, it happened to Coma Boy.
Wan King
I enjoy Coma Boy's blog as much as the next guy. But, given that he vacated ISG because he was sick of it and a lot of the wankers on it, I think it's a bit out-of-line for you to have appropriated one of his posts and posted it here, giving the impression to some that this happened to you. I'm not sure. But, I doubt he'd be all that pleased. But, on the other hand, he's a fairly laid back guy. So, maybe he wouldn't be fussed about it either way.
Still, why don't you post your own shit instead of someone else's?
Poupard2000
11-19-06, 13:39
Friday, I have done the Biergarden with friends... Not so bad. some pretty girls but it was too early to conclude a deal. I have switch to NEP to get a drink in a gogo and then to Nana Disco. 400 bahts entry fee.
The disco was full of girls and I have seen a lot of stunners. One was really very attractive for me. all, named On, 28 years old from Ubon, a child. She just came back from Singapore. We flirt together to 2 am (closure of the disco) and then we went to my hotel. She want 3000 because in Singapore, she can get 9000 bahts per night. In 2 trips of 2 weeks, she has saved 140 000 bahts in Singapore. She wait for the end of the week before to go back there. I said 2000 because I like her (if she is too expansive, I cannot take her often). She has accepted but saturday she was booked by a man from Singapore (in Bangkok for business) at 5000 bahts per night.Sex performance was really great. I shot 3 times.
Saturday
Not so good quality in Biergarden. lower than friday, many old girls. But I was lucky, I saw a jewel and invited her at my table. She named Ho, 24 years old and very beautifull with a marvelous body (wonderfull boobs) although not so tall. We went take a glass at Angel Witch and then to my hote. Price was at 3000 , no negociation possible. She is sometimes invited in Singapore (customers are sending money for the ticket) and she chases also in Conrad Hotel. Sex performance was average but just to eat her pussy and to touch her body was a great pleasure. She is a real stunner.
My conclusion... Prices are up for top quality. Even for freelancers. Expect to pay up to 3000 bahts per night for stunners. I regret the Pattaya girls at 1000. But it seems that in Pattaya also prices are up (1500 bahts for a long time if the girl is pretty).
Poupard2000
11-19-06, 13:42
Friday, I have done the Biergarden with friends... Not so bad. some pretty girls but it was too early to conclude a deal. I have switch to NEP to get a drink in a gogo and then to Nana Disco. 400 bahts entry fee.
The disco was full of girls and I have seen a lot of stunners. One was really very attractive for me. Tall, named On, 28 years old from Ubon, a child. She just came back from Singapore. We flirt together to 2 am (closure of the disco) and then we went to my hotel. She want 3000 because in Singapore, she can get 9000 bahts per night. In 2 trips of 2 weeks, she has saved 140 000 bahts in Singapore. She wait for the end of the week before to go back there. I said 2000 because I like her (if she is too expansive, I cannot take her often). She has accepted but saturday she was booked by a man from Singapore (in Bangkok for business) at 5000 bahts per night. Sex performance was really great. I shot 3 times.
Saturday
Not so good quality in Biergarden. lower than friday, many old girls. But I was lucky, I saw a jewel and invited her at my table. She named Ho, 24 years old and very beautifull with a marvelous body (wonderfull boobs) although not so tall. We went take a glass at Angel Witch and then to my hotel. quotation was at 3000, no negociation possible. Ho is sometimes invited in Singapore (customers are sending money for the ticket) and she is hunting also in Conrad Hotel Disco. Sex performance was average but just to eat her juicy pussy and to touch her full body was a great pleasure. She is a real stunner.
My conclusion... Prices are up for top quality segment. Even for freelancers. Expect to pay up to 3000 bahts per night for stunners. We are not far from 100 USD per night if you include the drinks, the taxi money...
I regret the Pattaya girls at 1000. But it seems that in Pattaya also prices are up (1500 bahts for a long time if the girl is pretty).
Do you have the same feeling ?
Merlin Magician
11-19-06, 16:23
It certainly looks as if us ugly Falangs are ruining the whole objective of why we have been coming to LOS. Guys are paying the high prices for pussy because they think they can't bargain down. Or...they let their little head, not the big head, do the bargaining.
Pretty soon, LOS will be unaffordable. It is already getting that way. Pure economics; supply and demand. Except this looks backwards. There is plenty of supply which should drive prices down, but they go upwards instead. Go figger...
Like my old Grandpa Watson used to say: " Sonny Boy, the differnce' tween' a hunnert' dollah piece o' ass and a twenny dollah piece is eighty bucks."
I think it's a bit out-of-line for you to have appropriated one of his posts and posted it here, giving the impression to some that this happened to you. I'm not sure. But, I doubt he'd be all that pleased. But, on the other hand, he's a fairly laid back guy. So, maybe he wouldn't be fussed about it either way.
Still, why don't you post your own shit instead of someone else's?
Sorry,
I wasn't trying to give the impression it was me, and I have made changes so it is now clear that it is from coma boys blog. For the record I do post plenty of my own shit.
Old Thai Hand
11-19-06, 17:16
For the record I do post plenty of my own shit.
I know you have. I wasn't meaning to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you.
Pretty soon, LOS will be unaffordable. It is already getting that way. Pure economics; supply and demand. Except this looks backwards. There is plenty of supply which should drive prices down, but they go upwards instead. Go figger...
Like my old Grandpa Watson used to say: " Sonny Boy, the differnce' tween' a hunnert' dollah piece o' ass and a twenny dollah piece is eighty bucks."
Your Grandpa was right - though I would add that the $20 piece will almost invariably perform better service than the $100.
As for price in Thailand, Thais seem to have an odd philosophy when it comes to prices. If they have heard of someone paying a lot, they will hold out for that price untill absolutely forced by necessity to accept less. For example in Ubon Ratchathani I encountered many who expected 1,200-2,000 because, as they said 'farang pay that in Bangkok'. Of course in the case in point I was the only farang around, and the real choice was take 500 baht or get nothing that night.
You also find this with Thais selling products as well as services - has anyone here ever looked at used cars in Thailand? People will hold out for $2,000 for an old car that we wouldn't give $500 for in the West, sometimes for years and months. No, it is only dire necessity that will force Thais to be reasonable.
Of course the new State policy of attacking prostitution is putting upward pressure on prices. For example in Pattaya the controllers have closed down the Beach Road, eliminating the main low-cost alternative. No longer will mongers be able to simply walk away from bar girls (and their bar-pimps) charging too much, knowing that the ladies of the beach await. Lastly, supply is in fact being reduced greatly every year in Thailand, due to demographics - Thai population growth is plummeting and the Thai population is aging, just as every year more and more desperate sex refugees from the US, Europe, and Asia seek asylum here.
Old Thai Hand
11-20-06, 01:23
Lastly, supply is in fact being reduced greatly every year in Thailand, due to demographics - Thai population growth is plummeting and the Thai population is aging, just as every year more and more desperate sex refugees from the US, Europe, and Asia seek asylum here.
An example of you using spurious information to support your stupid opinions. In fact, the Thai population has grown steadily in the last 40 years and shows no signs of "plummeting".
Age structure:
0-14 years: 22% (male 7,284,068/female 6,958,632)
15-64 years: 70% (male 22,331,312/female 22,880,588)
65 years and over: 8% (male 2,355,190/female 2,821,805) (2006 est.)
Population growth rate: 0.68% (2006 est.)
Birth rate: 13.87 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Death rate: 7.04 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Net migration rate: 0 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.98 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.84 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2006 est.)
Infant mortality rate: 19.49 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 70.00 years
male: 69.65 years
female: 72.68 years (2006 est.)
Total fertility 1.64 children born/woman (2006 est.)
(source: Wikpedia)
note chart (in 000s)
However, let's hope prices for the services you crave continue to rise and the availability continues to plummet, so as to force you out of Thailand forever.
GermanBoy 2
11-21-06, 06:22
Maybe I will not tell something new for all the old BKK-experts, but maybe I can give some help for unexperienced travellers like I am one.
Good message: the biggest amount of really wonderful and pretty girls you can find at the rca area. And best of all: these are all freebies.
Bad message: to get one of them is as hard as to win in a lottery. Maybe not the jackpot, but mid-range price.
Okay, now the details: rca (no idea what it means) is a bar and disco area where the thai people spend their free evenings. Especially on weekends its very busy. One of the bigger places located there is called "route 66", they have two big dance floors and play mostly a kind of house. Sometimes their are live bands too. Seems that the audiance is something like jeunesse doree from Thailand. Do not compare it with nana disco or something like this. Western people are very rare, and the favorite drink for the thais seems to be whisky (one bottle red lable, one liter 1000 baht). Place is busy between 10 and 11 pm, later very crowded and closes at 2 am. Minimum age for going inside is 20, and I think there are not a lot of persons over 30.
Scene of great, wonderful and specteculas girls is enormeous. A lot of them come with other girl friends, mostly in bigger groups. But as I said before: this is not nana. Our money does not count anything, if you want to have success you have to be charming, smiling and being friendly. Same like at home. Okay, maybe some of these asian wonders are a little bi more interested in white skin, especially after some whisky, but in total you have to do the same like in europe or in the us. I have been there for 6 times, and that with 2 times success. Good thing is, that these girls want you and not your money, and if you can reach nobodys heard, it is a festival for the eyes.
How to go there: take subway to rama 9 road, exit fortune hotel and on the cross road left. This is rama 9 road, the area is situated at soi 8. From underground it is a walking distance from about 800 meter. Taxi from nana area is about 50 baht.
Good luck to everybody who will try it out:.))
Fresh Meat 2
11-21-06, 06:27
Regarding the price of p4p in Bangkok.
I Spent 12 nites in Bangkok in Oct/Nov this year.
It was my 16th trip to the kingdom, so I guess you could say that I am failly experienced in the pricing of p4p.
From what I have read on this forum I think some of you guys are paying too much, but to each his own, here is a breakdown of what I paid on my recent trip.
Had about 8 different girls from the Beer Garden on soi 7, took all of these during the day and short time only, paid everyone of them 1000baht, I didn't get into conversation with them regarding $, I just told them what I wanted and if they asked, I said that the renumeration was 1000, a couple out of the 8 wanted more than the 1000 offered, but they were told in no uncertain terms that the 1000 was non negotiable, in about 50% of the cases $ were not discussed until the business was done, all accepted.
Took 2 girls from cowboy at nite, both very pretty, price was not discussed, both stayed 3-4 hrs both were paid 1500 + 200 for taxi and snack, and both were happy with the 1700.
Generally speaking I prefer not to discuss $ until business is complete, a good rule of thumb for newbies is, if all the p4p wants to talk about is $, then move on and find another.
It should be noted that in conjunction with the above I usually spend an hour or two getting to know the p4p before taking her to my hotel, during this time I pay for any drinks or food that she orders, so by the time that she leaves the bar with me she has had a good time and is relaxed, $ are very rarely mentioned.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Fresh Meat 2
11-21-06, 06:40
Regarding the price of p4p in Bangkok.
I Spent 12 nites in Bangkok in Oct/Nov this year.
It was my 16th trip to the kingdom, so I guess you could say that I am failly experienced in the pricing of p4p.
From what I have read on this forum I think some of you guys are paying too much, but to each his own, here is a breakdown of what I paid on my recent trip. Had about 8 different girls from the Beer Garden on soi 7, took all of these during the day and short time only, paid everyone of them 1000baht, I didn't get into conversation with them regarding $, I just told them what I wanted and if they asked, I said that the renumeration was 1000, a couple out of the 8 wanted more than the 1000 offered, but they were told in no uncertain terms that the 1000 was non negotiable, in about 50% of the cases $ were not discussed until the business was done, all accepted.
Took 2 girls from cowboy at nite, both very pretty, price was not discussed, both stayed 3-4 hrs both were paid 1500 + 200 for taxi and snack, and both were happy with the 1700.
Generally speaking I prefer not to discuss $ until business is complete, a good rule of thumb for newbies is, if all the p4p wants to talk about is $, then move on and find another.
It should be noted that in conjunction with the above I usually spend an hour or two getting to know the p4p before taking her to my hotel, during this time I pay for any drinks or food that she orders, so by the time that she leaves the bar with me she has had a good time and is relaxed, $ are very rarely mentioned.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
M P Lurker
11-21-06, 10:56
Good message: the biggest amount of really wonderful and pretty girls you can find at the rca area. And best of all: these are all freebies.
Bad message: to get one of them is as hard as to win in a lottery. Maybe not the jackpot, but mid-range price.
Well obviously not many girls will head off with a westerner because of the stigma that it might give the image of being a hooker even if she isn't.
In some places in Thailand, a girl will be branded a hooker just by walking with a Farang.
Still, exceptionally good looking high class guys probably rarely have to pay for sex in Thailand or any other country, but they have to know where to look. I am not a hunk and don't have time for the chase (not much free time away from girlfriend) when mongering, so its just easier to pay rather than miss out often.
Maybe I will not tell something new for all the old BKK-experts, but maybe I can give some help for unexperienced travellers like I am one.
Good message: the biggest amount of really wonderful and pretty girls you can find at the rca area. And best of all: these are all freebies.
Bad message: to get one of them is as hard as to win in a lottery. Maybe not the jackpot, but mid-range price.
Okay, now the details: rca (no idea what it means) is a bar and disco area where the thai people spend their free evenings. Especially on weekends its very busy. One of the bigger places located there is called "route 66", they have two big dance floors and play mostly a kind of house. Sometimes their are live bands too. Seems that the audiance is something like jeunesse doree from Thailand. Do not compare it with nana disco or something like this. Western people are very rare, and the favorite drink for the thais seems to be whisky (one bottle red lable, one liter 1000 baht). Place is busy between 10 and 11 pm, later very crowded and closes at 2 am. Minimum age for going inside is 20, and I think there are not a lot of persons over 30.
Scene of great, wonderful and specteculas girls is enormeous. A lot of them come with other girl friends, mostly in bigger groups. But as I said before: this is not nana. Our money does not count anything, if you want to have success you have to be charming, smiling and being friendly. Same like at home. Okay, maybe some of these asian wonders are a little bi more interested in white skin, especially after some whisky, but in total you have to do the same like in europe or in the us. I have been there for 6 times, and that with 2 times success. Good thing is, that these girls want you and not your money, and if you can reach nobodys heard, it is a festival for the eyes.
How to go there: take subway to rama 9 road, exit fortune hotel and on the cross road left. This is rama 9 road, the area is situated at soi 8. From underground it is a walking distance from about 800 meter. Taxi from nana area is about 50 baht.
Good luck to everybody who will try it out:.))
German boy,
RCA stands for Royal City Avenue.
I must say that your post on RCA is exactly the truth!! When I am tired of hitting the regulars (Nana, Cowboy, CM2, Q-bar or the Pent) RCA is a fantastic place to see how the real Thai girls get wild. I agree a little smile and some sweet talk, then you can have a common Thai non pro eating out of your hands. The only thing I would add is.. You need to bring a Passport if you are an Expat or tourist. They will not let Farangs (non-thai's) in without proper ID. There is something that I noticed that might be of interest.. When leaving we passed at least 75 girls looking for action as all the cars leave the area at 2 AM. Nice job and I hope you continue to Enjoy RCA
German boy,
RCA stands for Royal City Avenue.
I must say that your post on RCA is exactly the truth!! When I am tired of hitting the regulars (Nana, Cowboy, CM2, Q-bar or the Pent) RCA is a fantastic place to see how the real Thai girls get wild. I agree a little smile and some sweet talk, then you can have a common Thai non pro eating out of your hands. The only thing I would add is.. You need to bring a Passport if you are an Expat or tourist. They will not let Farangs (non-thai's) in without proper ID. There is something that I noticed that might be of interest.. When leaving we passed at least 75 girls looking for action as all the cars leave the area at 2 AM. Nice job and I hope you continue to Enjoy RCA
Odd, I've been clubbing at RCA several times - with Thais and non-Thai Asians - and never had an isssue with ID. (FWIW, I never carry my passport, but on occassions I feel I need the identity, I have color copies of the first page I can stuff in my wallet.)
I will say that while most Thais see me as the farang I am, many also say I look Chinese. And I'm obviously much older than 20. :)
Cheers,
-Y
The only thing I would add is.. You need to bring a Passport if you are an Expat or tourist. They will not let Farangs (non-thai's) in without proper ID.
Is not so! I had no problem to enter Route 66 and Slim without ID. I read outside that a ID is necessary, but could enter without. They did not even ask for a ID.
Is not so! I had no problem to enter Route 66 and Slim without ID. I read outside that a ID is necessary, but could enter without. They did not even ask for a ID.
OK, I will state this, if you are a farang not of Asian decent, you may need a passport to enter RCA. I have been there many times with Caucasians and we were all asked for our passports. On one occasion one of us did not have his passport and he was denied entry. There are signs posted in many locations that say “Passports required”. I always carry a copy of my passport because my US drivers license looks like it came from a cereal box to many Policemen of the world. Here at RCA the “white boys” were asked for Passports. So take it FWIW and bring your passport to RCA. The worse case scenario would be they did not ask you for it and you enjoy a fun place full of hot Thai girls.
I am a white guy. I had never had a problem to enter those clubs in RCA without showing my passport. I know it's maybe a bit careless but I never take my passport with me when I went out. Never had a problem and I was maybe already 15 times in Thailand.
Yesterday when I went out of Patpong there were many police men making a razzia. The Taxi driver didn't stop because they were affraid I guess. One Police man saw this and stopped a taxi for me. Asked me where I want to go and than told the Taxi driver to bring me there. Adviced me also not to pay more than the taximeter shows.
In the RCA bars they always treat me with respect. Never asked for passport, ID Card or what ever. Even when there always are signs that say that a ID Card is necessary. I guess it's therefore no problem, because I 37 years old and the showing of an ID card should only prove that somebody who want enter is already older than 20 years.
OK, I will state this, if you are a farang not of Asian decent, you may need a passport to enter RCA. I have been there many times with Caucasians and we were all asked for our passports. On one occasion one of us did not have his passport and he was denied entry. There are signs posted in many locations that say “Passports required”. I always carry a copy of my passport because my US drivers license looks like it came from a cereal box to many Policemen of the world. Here at RCA the “white boys” were asked for Passports. So take it FWIW and bring your passport to RCA. The worse case scenario would be they did not ask you for it and you enjoy a fun place full of hot Thai girls.
I am a white guy. I had never had a problem to enter those clubs in RCA without showing my passport. I know it's maybe a bit careless but I never take my passport with me when I went out. Never had a problem and I was maybe already 15 times in Thailand.
Yesterday when I went out of Patpong there were many police men making a razzia. The Taxi driver didn't stop because they were affraid I guess. One Police man saw this and stopped a taxi for me. Asked me where I want to go and than told the Taxi driver to bring me there. Adviced me also not to pay more than the taximeter shows.
In the RCA bars they always treat me with respect. Never asked for passport, ID Card or what ever. Even when there always are signs that say that a ID Card is necessary. I guess it's therefore no problem, because I 37 years old and the showing of an ID card should only prove that somebody who want enter is already older than 20 years.Guys,
ID is needed for thais under 18 or 20 not allow to go there by thai law and not allow to have alcool under 18 something like this. And by the way there is a law in Thailand that says all foreigner have to carry theier passport with them. If police check on you without passport they have the right to take you to police station to investigate on you. Trust this is happen many time even todays. May be you will find a threat on this here in the forum. Hey. Happen to me once in 1998.
Nhscotsman
11-23-06, 00:00
I’m going to be in BKK for a few days in late January before I head south to Pattaya for 2 weeks. I would like to find a place VERY close to Nana Plaza and besides Nana Hotel, can anyone recommend someplace else? As usual, my flight gets in at 11:30pm, so heading to Pattaya at midnight seems foolish or isn’t it? Either way, I figured I’d find a place for a few nights and then head south. And like everyone else, I want to find some company for night number 1 to keep me company and help me with the stress of the 28 hour flight. As far as heading to Pattaya at midnight or 1 am, would it be smart to go then versus during the day? The traffic is nonexistent then so it might be better then. What are your thoughts on this idea?
Happy Turkey Day to all of the yanks here
Nhscotsman
Friday, I have done the Biergarden with friends... Not so bad. some pretty girls but it was too early to conclude a deal. I have switch to NEP to get a drink in a gogo and then to Nana Disco. 400 bahts entry fee.
The disco was full of girls and I have seen a lot of stunners. One was really very attractive for me. Tall, named On, 28 years old from Ubon, a child. She just came back from Singapore. We flirt together to 2 am (closure of the disco) and then we went to my hotel. She want 3000 because in Singapore, she can get 9000 bahts per night. In 2 trips of 2 weeks, she has saved 140 000 bahts in Singapore. She wait for the end of the week before to go back there. I said 2000 because I like her (if she is too expansive, I cannot take her often). She has accepted but saturday she was booked by a man from Singapore (in Bangkok for business) at 5000 bahts per night. Sex performance was really great. I shot 3 times.
Saturday
Not so good quality in Biergarden. lower than friday, many old girls. But I was lucky, I saw a jewel and invited her at my table. She named Ho, 24 years old and very beautifull with a marvelous body (wonderfull boobs) although not so tall. We went take a glass at Angel Witch and then to my hotel. quotation was at 3000, no negociation possible. Ho is sometimes invited in Singapore (customers are sending money for the ticket) and she is hunting also in Conrad Hotel Disco. Sex performance was average but just to eat her juicy pussy and to touch her full body was a great pleasure. She is a real stunner.
My conclusion... Prices are up for top quality segment. Even for freelancers. Expect to pay up to 3000 bahts per night for stunners. We are not far from 100 USD per night if you include the drinks, the taxi money...
I regret the Pattaya girls at 1000. But it seems that in Pattaya also prices are up (1500 bahts for a long time if the girl is pretty).
Do you have the same feeling ?
Don't pay those tired old dragons any more than 1,000thb!
Yes, and never pay up front or take two. They are worthless when doubled up. Always keep control of the situation and keep them at arm's length. They are diabolical. Roll your trousers up (pockets in) and stash them under the fridge or between the mattresses. A duo will compete on who can to the least amount of work. I like it when the cell rings and they start crying about a relative that just died or got injured badly to soften you up for more money. I just laugh. Security will always side with you. If they don't perform you can just have them ejected, and if good stuff doesn't begin within 10 minutes of walking in the door it is ejection time. Cheaper to pay a security guard 500thb for the IMMEDIATE eject than the prices I see quoted by some of the recent posts here. The best and worst BKK knobbers I ever had were from the Beergarden FLs and it was all about who was in control. The nightime dudes behind the front desk at Nana and Grace will do their best to protect you as they did me many years ago when I started out. Also, you have limited time to play games, and a drawn out bad experience can ruin the evening. If you are staying at Nana the girls don't want to get in bad graces with staff there. If you are at the Grace, the girls will definately not try anything funky. The Arabs have been doing this very well, long before Europeans and Americans showed up. That is their little corner. NEVER strike a girl for any reason!
Retired Army
11-23-06, 08:15
I would like to find a place VERY close to Nana Plaza and besides Nana Hotel, can anyone recommend someplace else? As usual, my flight gets in at 11:30pm, so heading to Pattaya at midnight seems foolish or isn’t it? Either way, I figured I’d find a place for a few nights and then head south. And like everyone else, I want to find some company for night number 1 to keep me company and help me with the stress of the 28 hour flight. As far as heading to Pattaya at midnight or 1 am, would it be smart to go then versus during the day? The traffic is nonexistent then so it might be better then. What are your thoughts on this idea?
Happy Turkey Day to all of the yanks here
Nhscotsman
Check the hotel thread, there is a lot of discussion about this subject.
With the new airport you are a lot closer to Pattaya than before. I would say it's a toss up as to which is a better more: Pattaya or Bangkok.
I’m going to be in BKK for a few days in late January before I head south to Pattaya for 2 weeks. I would like to find a place VERY close to Nana Plaza and besides Nana Hotel, can anyone recommend someplace else? As usual, my flight gets in at 11:30pm, so heading to Pattaya at midnight seems foolish or isn’t it? Either way, I figured I’d find a place for a few nights and then head south. And like everyone else, I want to find some company for night number 1 to keep me company and help me with the stress of the 28 hour flight. As far as heading to Pattaya at midnight or 1 am, would it be smart to go then versus during the day? The traffic is nonexistent then so it might be better then. What are your thoughts on this idea?
Happy Turkey Day to all of the yanks here
Nhscotsman
I can recommend the Dynasty Inn Hotel. It cost 1280 Bhat per night and has quite good rooms and is silent. It's oposite Nana Hotel and girlfrienly.
About the idea to go to Pattaya right from the Airport. Well you can do, it will be not much traffic. I did it once and but it wasn't a pleasure. I was alert, because the taxi driver felt every ten seconds in a sleep and I had to shake his arm to wake him up. Not very relaxing.
By the way, some asked here for a place where to meet pretty girls in Bangkok. The Disco in Novotel is a good place to meet stunner. Best place to see pretty girls I saw until now in Bangkok. There are Thai, CIS and even some Black pros to find.
LittleBigMan
11-24-06, 05:30
I believe the Dynasty Inn is close due to construction. I was in town on October 25,26, and walk by and I only saw construction.
LBM
The construction is in the front area, the Hotel is still open just go to to the back area. They also offer their guest free transfer to Pattaya if you are going to stay at the Dynasty Inn or Resort in Pattaya.
I believe the Dynasty Inn is close due to construction. I was in town on October 25,26, and walk by and I only saw construction.
LBM
There are streetwalkers in Chinatown! I had only read mention of them in a few old reports, but at first sight I was pleasantly surprised by the scene. There are quite a few girls, and by no means all are old and ugly. Most of the girls asked 300 or 400 baht to start, though the few really attractive ones stuck to 500. One fat girl immediately offered me a 200 baht session.
I took an older lady with the disasterous remains of 25 year old breast implants for 500, because she agreed to bareback anal. I think bareback is common here, but not anal. The blow job was abysmal, and the sex interrupted by the annoying 'jep! jep!' nonsense. I did, in spite of this, manage to ream the anus for a while, but had to finish in the vagina. The short time hotel was only 60 baht but did not provide a towel!
Keep in mind if you venture to this area - the standard of service is atrociously low. You will be rushed, as apparently the girls are used to Thai length sex - say 5 or 10 minutes at most - and don't know what to make of farangs who take 30 minutes to come. As is normal with Thai-oriented providers, starfish sex is all that is on offer. All in all not a great option.
In a side note - this was my first visit to the Capital in years, other than just to pass through and out as quickly as possible. What a miserable place! I was drenched in sweat the entire time, and I'm not even prone to that. In November the weather is lovely and not at all hot in the provinces and Pattaya, but in Bangkok it is, as always, sickeningly hot.
I believe the Dynasty Inn is close due to construction. I was in town on October 25,26, and walk by and I only saw construction.
LBM
Dynasty Inn is open. Just the entrance building is under construction. But they have a other lobby, at a small lane beside the construction side. The Hotel itself is not under construction and inside the Hotel you do not even hear the work outside.
@Opodo, I have heard about a good brothel in Chinatown. One of the Hotel 23 type of brothels where you come in a room and choose from a collection of girls. Well, maybe they don't excist any more, since I was in such a Hotel 15 years ago in Sukomvith road.
Well, to fuck a old (most likely ugly woman) is something I don't understand. Than even bareback Anal is totally beyond me.
Great Wall
11-24-06, 17:34
On my way to Australia, I will be transiting at Bangkok. What opportunities do I have at airport and at the airport hotel? Is full service/massage available at these places?
NOVOTEL Siam Square puts you in the heart of action.
Hard Rock Café, a classic pick up joint is just walking distance.
CM2, the night club at the basement of the hotel is full of girls. Most of them are Thai, some are blode from eastern europe.
All ask around 3000 Bt. A thai bomb, Maya, is asking 5000 bt and promising LT.
But After first round, she mentioned she need to sleep till she will go.
I called security, after long talk, she gave back 1000 Bt.
Good experience in a massage shop just outside the hotel.
Turn left from the main exit, this is the first shop. Ask for Oil, the name of a great masseuse using hands, lips and tongue. she will ask for extra money and will be happy with 500Bt.
The massage cost 600Bt.
Popos
NicFrenchy
11-25-06, 17:33
Popos,
Did you read the Forum before going to Bangkok? The normal rate for LT is 2000 baht, 2500 at most. Never agree to 5000! Even 4000.
And for 2000 LT, the girl will get at least 2 pops out of you ;)
Hi Guys,
Off to Bangkok next week and have never visited Nana's or Soi Cowboy. Can anyone recommend a place to sit and watch without being hassled too much? Would like to be able to sit, have a drink and people watch without being ripped off.
Also, does anyone have any good reports on coyote bars or the impressionist bars?
Thanks Peta
NOVOTEL Siam Square puts you in the heart of action.
Hard Rock Café, a classic pick up joint is just walking distance.
CM2, the night club at the basement of the hotel is full of girls. Most of them are Thai, some are blode from eastern europe.
All ask around 3000 Bt. A thai bomb, Maya, is asking 5000 bt and promising LT.
But After first round, she mentioned she need to sleep till she will go.
I called security, after long talk, she gave back 1000 Bt.
Good experience in a massage shop just outside the hotel.
Turn left from the main exit, this is the first shop. Ask for Oil, the name of a great masseuse using hands, lips and tongue. she will ask for extra money and will be happy with 500Bt.
The massage cost 600Bt.
Popos
What I read between your lines is that you paid upfront. A big mistake. I would have given her 1000 and told her she can get the balance in the morning.
You should negotiate 1000 for the first shot, and 500 for each thereafter. You will be surprised how horny they get. If she is more of a bomb, offer 1000 for the second shot too.
Remember the definition of stunner: A 'stunner' is any woman who comes back with a price that has a cost vs percieved value for money ratio that leaves me stunned.
NOVOTEL Siam Square puts you in the heart of action.
Hard Rock Café, a classic pick up joint is just walking distance.
CM2, the night club at the basement of the hotel is full of girls. Most of them are Thai, some are blode from eastern europe.
All ask around 3000 Bt. A thai bomb, Maya, is asking 5000 bt and promising LT.
But After first round, she mentioned she need to sleep till she will go.
I called security, after long talk, she gave back 1000 Bt.
Good experience in a massage shop just outside the hotel.
Turn left from the main exit, this is the first shop. Ask for Oil, the name of a great masseuse using hands, lips and tongue. she will ask for extra money and will be happy with 500Bt.
The massage cost 600Bt.
Popos
From what I read between the lines is that you paid her upfront. A big mistake! I would have given her 1000 when she wanted to leave and told her she can get the balance in the morning.
You should negotiate 1000 for the first shot, and 500 for each thereafter. You will be surprised how horny they get. If she is more of a bomb, offer her 1000 for the second shot too. But be aware that you'll have a job to do.
Remember the definition of stunner: A 'stunner' is any woman who comes back with a price that has a cost vs percieved value for money ratio that leaves me stunned.
The construction is in the front area, the Hotel is still open just go to to the back area. They also offer their guest free transfer to Pattaya if you are going to stay at the Dynasty Inn or Resort in Pattaya.You get the free ride if you pre-book two days (and pre-pay too) for either the Dynasty Inn of the Dynasty Resort in Pattaya. You don't even have to be staying in either of the Dynasty hotels in Bangkok to qualify for the ride as I was saying at the Majestic Suites at the time.
Hi Guys,
Off to Bangkok next week and have never visited Nana's or Soi Cowboy. Can anyone recommend a place to sit and watch without being hassled too much? Would like to be able to sit, have a drink and people watch without being ripped off.The Big Mango Bar is great for watching the various comings and goings at Nana, possibly while grabbing a bite to eat. Go up the escalator and take a sharp right. Some of the girls will push you in a nice sort of way for lady drinks but it's no problem to refuse.
A good place that I like to sit and watch the world go by is the Golden Beer Bar at the front of Nana Hotel in Soi 4.
Hi,
I was curious. How many of you have been fooled by overly beautiful LB's. And when you have taken a lady back for either LT or ST and then you realize that she is a he? I was curious if it happened often and how did you handle it. I would think that most would just give them a few baht and send them on their way. I read how often people are fooled by their beauty and that some of you must get them back to their rooms and then. Ooooops! Hahaha.
NhscotsmanYou really, really would be hard put to mistake lady bodys for real girls..they act, dress and look very different. The only trouble might be if there has been a total sex change operation. I once had to refuse a very lovely gal, who was basically dancing nude, because I somehow became suspicious (facial features, voice, behaviour). when I return this year, I may ask the bar owner where I met her if whe was the real thing or not.
Yes, you will always hear somebody taken for a big ride, and then believe the whole price structure has changed. Not true! My first time out, I went to Cupidy and paid an incredible 9,000 bhat for two girls, and then I tipped them! Having been educated, next time it was 2,000 even for the "model" level! 1,000 is a good starting point, though street girls may spend the night for 500..there is a lot of competition out there for them!
What I read between your lines is that you paid upfront. A big mistake. I would have given her 1000 and told her she can get the balance in the morning.
You should negotiate 1000 for the first shot, and 500 for each thereafter. You will be surprised how horny they get. If she is more of a bomb, offer 1000 for the second shot too.
Remember the definition of stunner: A 'stunner' is any woman who comes back with a price that has a cost vs percieved value for money ratio that leaves me stunned.
GermanBoy 2
11-26-06, 16:58
I went to Nana Disco arround midnight and was not really happt with that what I have seen. Most of the girls seemd to me not the freshest ones, and then my eye catched one of the dancing girls. Cute, slim, young (22 as I learned later), nice and with a wonderful bright smile. As I love it. After some eye contacts she came near to me kept on dancing, and I did he same. Some dances, some telks and one drink (which she took at the bar after going to toilet, so she paid for her own) later she asked: should we go. Of course we should.
We went to my hotel and then it was the usual one. Showering (not together) she gave a BJ and after a lot of wonderful kissings there was the real sex action. (sorry, I am not firm about all your bbj bbjj bbj bjb jbbbj abbreviations, so I hope it is allowed to say. It was sex, and not a bad one).
The night she stayed in my arms like a real girlfriend, and after a very little morning action (sorry guys, this is not my time) and a breakfast together she went away. Till this moment we never discussed about money. I gave her 2000 and she gave me a big kiss. So I think it was not too less. Unfortunately we could ot meet again cause it was my last day.
GermanBoy 2
11-26-06, 17:05
Guys,
I am far away from making advices to you. And as everybody knows, if somebody started a sentence like this, he wants to make advices:.))
Okay, as everybody knows, the parking slot at nanas is a market place at night, something like fresh mea market place. Its understandable that we want to know what the girls are offering, and what they want to see for that (mean in cash). Anyway, I think we should treat them with a little respect.
I have seen a man, maybe in the middle sixtys, unwashed, unshaved and with a very big balley. He was walking from girl to girl, asking " how much is short time" and when she answerd, he always was shouting bad words.
I think even at this place its possible to speak to the girls like to every other person we meet in live. Saying Hello,,, how are you and doing a minute of small talk first. And if there is no deal, saying some good wishes for tonight.
Good night for all these readers now:.)
Evil Penivel
11-27-06, 04:48
This is a brief update to a report I did on a visit in 2005 to the Beer Garden (formerly known as the Bier Garten) at Sukhumvit Soi 7. A lot has changed outwardly. The bar had shed its seedy tropical look thanks to a total make-over to become a comfortable bar-restaurant complex. It still functions as a hook-up point for horny male tourists and willing Thai ladies, but even on the meat-market front, there were subtle changes. Keep in mind my latest observations are based on four short visits spread over two days in early November, 2006. The earliest visit was at 2.p.m., the latest around 7 p.m. As always, YMMV.
What struck me most was the shift in the Bier Garten cast of characters. The Thai ladies were still generally a solid 5 to 6, aged 25 and upward. Some of the ladies in their mid-30’s looked, dressed and carried themselves as though they were office workers out to pick up some extra cash. The male customers were concen trated to the age-45-and-above crowd, with very few any younger. They were surprisingly presentable by LOS sex tourist standards. It was the lower end of the punter/provider spectrum that had dropped away. I didn’t see even one unshaven, morbidly obese farang, nor any 90-pound geeks with massive over-bites and flip-flops. The higher end of the TG scale had never been a statistically significant part of the BG7 population, but it seemed to have disappeared entirely as well, at least when I was there.
Among the classic BKK pick-up institutions, such as the coffee shop of the Grace Hotel in its pre-al Qaeda days or the original Thermae before it changed locations, the Bier Garten was always the one that least resembled the Star Wars catina. However, some distinctive characters, male and female, had frequented BG7 and now they had disappeared along with the old rattan furnishings.
Perhaps most surprising to me was the presence of unescorted farang females in the new Bee r Garden. I can't ever remember seeing any farang female in the old Bier Garten, but on each of my short visits in early November, I saw several. Most intriguing was a blond woman who was together with a TG. Was it a lesbian pair? A CIS hooker and her Thai comrade? Or had the Beer Garden become so civilized that even tourist females/resident expats didn't hesitate to drop in for a beer and a bit to eat? Who knows, but it sure was a departure from the old BG7.
I have zero idea about the going price at BG7. I didn't speak with any of ladies because I was already committed for the evening. Short of Miss Thailand - or at least one of her runner-ups - walking in, I wouldn't be taking anyone from BG7 .and didn't think it fair to waste the ladies time with idle chit-chat just to satisfy my curiosity.
Here's a link to the original report: Tunnels of Purgatory (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692)
Evil
M P Lurker
11-27-06, 12:28
Guys,
Okay, as everybody knows, the parking slot at nanas is a market place at night, something like fresh mea market place. Its understandable that we want to know what the girls are offering, and what they want to see for that (mean in cash). Anyway, I think we should treat them with a little respect.
I have seen a man, maybe in the middle sixtys, unwashed, unshaved and with a very big balley. He was walking from girl to girl, asking " how much is short time" and when she answerd, he always was shouting bad words.
I think even at this place its possible to speak to the girls like to every other person we meet in live. Saying Hello,,, how are you and doing a minute of small talk first. And if there is no deal, saying some good wishes for tonight.
Good night for all these readers now:.)
Could not agree more. There are some very nice girls hanging around this non-classy area in addition to some average ones. I have picked up a couple of different girls who were quite classy IMHO. Its some of the Western guys who are probably the least classy here and many need to improve their attitude.
I have left the Lady Boys out of the equation altogther as they are quite colourful (and not classy) in any location.
M P Lurker
11-27-06, 12:49
You really, really would be hard put to mistake lady bodys for real girls..they act, dress and look very different. The only trouble might be if there has been a total sex change operation. I once had to refuse a very lovely gal, who was basically dancing nude, because I somehow became suspicious (facial features, voice, behaviour). when I return this year, I may ask the bar owner where I met her if whe was the real thing or not.
The above statements are getting close to inconsistent.
Firstly they claim its hard to mistake a LB. Then says wasn't sure but lets assume the wasn't sure applies to a real girl.
The truth is that only the very experienced guys in Thailand are unlikely to be ever tricked. And even the experienced will have doubts at times when meeting real girls who look suspicious.
Guys unsuspectingly go off with Lady Boys on a very frequent basis. I see it happening all the time and don't believe that more than 50% of the guys know what they are getting.
Surely the numbers of guys who like LBs can't be that high?
Guys who go with knowingly go with LBs must be a bit AC/DC I assume but its certainly not for me.
Many years ago, when relatively new to Thailand, I had paid the bar fine for 2 girls (both fully dressed) already and was about to go when I suddenly realised that one was probably a LB. Voice was a bit croaky. After wouldn't show me its pussy, I quickly cancelled and took a different girl with huge soft tits which made me feel very safe.
Always make them get all there gear off for detailed Gyni inspection before doing anything, guys! Just to be sure, to be sure.
The above statements are getting close to inconsistent.
Firstly they claim its hard to mistake a LB. Then says wasn't sure but lets assume the wasn't sure applies to a real girl.
The truth is that only the very experienced guys in Thailand are unlikely to be ever tricked. And even the experienced will have doubts at times when meeting real girls who look suspicious.
Guys unsuspectingly go off with Lady Boys on a very frequent basis. I see it happening all the time and don't believe that more than 50% of the guys know what they are getting.
Surely the numbers of guys who like LBs can't be that high?
Guys who go with knowingly go with LBs must be a bit AC/DC I assume but its certainly not for me.
Many years ago, when relatively new to Thailand, I had paid the bar fine for 2 girls (both fully dressed) already and was about to go when I suddenly realised that one was probably a LB. Voice was a bit croaky. After wouldn't show me its pussy, I quickly cancelled and took a different girl with huge soft tits which made me feel very safe.
Always make them get all there gear off for detailed Gyni inspection before doing anything, guys! Just to be sure, to be sure.
As can be read from my experiences, LBS are very hard to tell from real girls, and from my POV they will rip you off-apart from one I had. They will lie to you until you get them in your room and then demand a BK rate of pay even if you don't want to fuck them.
I have to admit that I am still not sure about what is what, but next time I will use my recordable MP3 player to ask them if they are a girl- if there is any doubt, and confirm that I only want a girl. If they then turn out to be a man, they will get fucked off, and they can call the cops if they want, but I will have proof of their lies. Fair enough, it may be illegal in LOS, but when push comes to shove, if they want to push it, recorded evidemce is a big help.
LBs are a big problem there, and if they ever wise up in LOS and make it legal, they should make it compulsary for LBs to register and wear ID.
This is a brief update to a report I did on a visit in 2005 to the Beer Garden (formerly known as the Bier Garten) at Sukhumvit Soi 7. A lot has changed outwardly. The bar had shed its seedy tropical look thanks to a total make-over to become a comfortable bar-restaurant complex. It still functions as a hook-up point for horny male tourists and willing Thai ladies, but even on the meat-market front, there were subtle changes. Keep in mind my latest observations are based on four short visits spread over two days in early November, 2006. The earliest visit was at 2.p.m., the latest around 7 p.m. As always, YMMV.
What struck me most was the shift in the Bier Garten cast of characters. The Thai ladies were still generally a solid 5 to 6, aged 25 and upward. Some of the ladies in their mid-30’s looked, dressed and carried themselves as though they were office workers out to pick up some extra cash. The male customers were concen trated to the age-45-and-above crowd, with very w ny younger. They were surprisingly presentable by LOS sex tourist standards. It was the lower end of the punter/provider spectrum that had dropped away. I didn’t see even one unshaven, morbidly obese farang, nor any 90-pound geeks with massive over-bites and flip-flops. The higher end of the TG scale had never been a statistically significant part of the BG7 population, but it seemed to have disappeared entirely as well, at least when I was there.
Among the classic BKK pick-up institutions, such as the coffee shop of the Grace Hotel in its pre-al Qaeda days or the original Thermae before it changed locations, the Bier Garten was always the one that least resembled the Star Wars catina. However, some distinctive characters, male and female, had frequented BG7 and now they had disappeared along with the old rattan furnishings.
Perhaps most surprising to me was the presence of unescorted farang females in the new Bee r Garden. I can't ever remember seeing any farang female in the old Bier Garten, but on each of my short visits in early November, I saw several. Most intriguing was a blond woman who was together with a TG. Was it a lesbian pair? A CIS hooker and her Thai comrade? Or had the Beer Garden become so civilized that even tourist females/resident expats didn't hesitate to drop in for a beer and a bit to eat? Who knows, but it sure was a departure from the old BG7.
I have zero idea about the going price at BG7. I didn't speak with any of ladies because I was already committed for the evening. Short of Miss Thailand - or at least one of her runner-ups - walking in, I wouldn't be taking anyone from BG7 .and didn't think it fair to waste the ladies time with idle chit-chat just to satisfy my curiosity.
Here's a link to the original report:
Tunnels of Purgatory (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692)
EvilThanks for your report. But biergarten is not a new one. They have change only the roof for a better ventilation and some decoration and ad some large tv screen. Same as years ago the biergarten atmosphere is never the same every day. Each day is different. Some good. Some bad. Girls change also day by day some stay every day. Some look around sometime. On a Monday for example you will find many girl from a hairdresser shop coming looking around. On Sunday you may have the up country one looking for Sunday business only. And so on.
I do not agree about cheap farang. Many expat there with good job. Of course they are some cheap but in general I can confirm to you from the side or point of view of the girl they find many good farang who take care of them. I have so many example of marriage with rich farangs. Its also a reason why they looking farang in biergarten.
This all from experience. Once I was runnig the money lent business in that aera. So today biergarten is still the same. Exept if something has change the last 3 month as I am out of Thailand for the moment.
Would appreciate comments from expats or others if any thing has change in atmosphere since the last 4 month.
Thank you guys.
Hi,
Aren't there some LB bars around? Surely you would know how to avoid those bars if you're not into LBs.
Then there are some which feature a mixture of LBs and genetic girls. The king's Castle chain is one, although most of the LBs are post-op here. So might be difficult to check the goods cursory.
I think it's a good idea to let BKK greenhorns know where LBs are likely to congregate so as to avoid such griefs later on.
I know NEP has quite a few. Casanova bar, Cascade bar, Temptations and obsessions bar are the famous one. I imagine most members here would give these establishments a wide berth.
Lumpini Park is another place to avoid. Never been there myself, just heard it from others. It's a place to pick up freelancers. Can be quite dangerous and a lot of post-op LBs will try to pass themselves as woman to unsuspecting punters.
Anyways, these are what's on top of my head now. Feel free to correct and add more to this.
Regards.
Edit : spelling
poor people in brasil and many se asian countries will sometimes feed a young boy with a pretty face birth control pills to make them develop feminine characteristics from the estrogen so they can sell their bodies to earn money for the family later. in thailand many dudes have pretty faces anyway so it is probably #1 there because of it's acceptance as a social thing, but the peenz and other countries in se asia do it as well. plus they eat meat that is often loaded with female hormones, similar to steroids and when a mother is pregnant and eats more than her share the kid can have androgeny problems. that androgeny problem is looked at as a capitol asset to an impoverished family, especially when the mother is working the bars and grandma and grandpa figure she won't be around more than a decade or two. it is easily enhanced with more female hormones from over the counter birth control pills. the hormones in the meat caused many hermaphrodic kids to be born here back in the 50's and 60's and the fda cracked down on it. in the 80's there was a spat of cases because of hormone injected beef in puerto rico. think about that when you eat a fast food burger with beef raised in ?????. the stuff they use here (trembalone) is extremely mild compared to the high-test they put in cattle elswhere. in india there is a whole caste (hijra ) that gets that treatment whether they have a pretty face or not. a couple of decades ago they just got their nuts cut off whether they liked it or not in the past but now they get a sex change. wikpedia says that they don't undergo any surgical changes to the privates but that is probably because they'd get hacked for making such a statement. friends that got married in india had to pay a pack of (hijras)them off to leave their ceremony alone as they are considered to bring bad luck. now the doctors can do everything to make them be female except the moistness glands, and reproductive stuff. the walk and lack of modesty are dead givaways, but they can get rid of the adams apple now. plus
I arrived in Nana late about midnight and at the time I was thinking it was too late to pull out anything great. Almost as soon as I walked in, I saw these two guys from England and they invited me to hang out with them, which at first I thought might be a mistake because they wanted to go see one of the ladyboy bars. Each time I was in Nana before I would walk in and walk right back out when I realized I was in a LB bar. But since I was trying to be polite, I went on in. Although Jackson doesn't like us talking too much about LB, I think it is part of the Thailand experience and to just pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't meet with everyone's liking is a bit narrow minded. I won't go into details about this place, but I will say that one of them had the most beautiful face I think I had seen there. It was scary because until he/she (whatever) spoke, I couldn't tell it was a LB! He even showed me his/her (whatever) boobs, which looked and felt (yes, I admit I did!) very nice! After a few minutes, I had enough of the weird show and asked my new "mates" if we could bounce to a bar with girls. They led the way to a bar full of very ugly, but at least REAL girls. We had a few drinks bouncing from bar to bar, but one wanted to go see some Russian girls and I just wanted to get some Thai girl to my room before I passed out from exhaustion.
I walked around the bars until I finally decided all the cute girls were gone, but on the way out I found a gorgeous girl who agreed to ST for 1,000 baht after stating at 3,000. I figured since I had no barfine to pay for her, 1,000 for ST was ok. Once we were in to room, she was talking about how shy she was and so on. Finally I said look, it is 2 AM and I want to get some sleep, get naked! She took off her clothes, we took care of business, I paid her, she left, and I slept. Maybe we were both tired, but even though she had a beautiful face and very good body, she was just not that great in bed.
The next day, I was walking somewhere near Nana and saw a girl sucking a lollipop at a massage place. I walked up to her and asked for a foot massage. She led me upstairs and gave a nice foot massage. During the foot massage, she flirted a lot and asked if I wanted oil body massage after the foot massage, which I accepted. In the middle of the massage I asked her for special. She said she can go with me for 600 baht to the shop and 2,000 baht to her. I asked how much just for HJ. She said it doesn't matter, just give a tip. So, she gave a very nice handjob with oil and I gave her a good tip. The massage was excellent too, so even without the HJ it was deserved. She gave me her email and asked if I wanted a live-in masseuse to let her know.
After having some food and resting a while, I went to Nana again and saw a really sexy looking girl, face maybe about a 7, but body was a 9. Took her short time to my room and it was fantastic. I am starting to believe that the best looking girls are NOT the best in bed. I think all they have to do is show up to get customers, but the girls who are just OK looking will rock your world because they feel like that HAVE to in order to get a good tip or repeat business.
All in all, my stay in Bangkok was very enjoyable although too quick.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]This is a brief update to a report I did on a visit in 2005 to the Beer Garden (formerly known as the Bier Garten) at Sukhumvit Soi 7. A lot has changed outwardly. The bar had shed its seedy tropical look thanks to a total make-over to become a comfortable bar-restaurant complex. It still functions as a hook-up point for horny male tourists and willing Thai ladies, but even on the meat-market front, there were subtle changes. Keep in mind my latest observations are based on four short visits spread over two days in early November, 2006. The earliest visit was at 2.p.m., the latest around 7 p.m.
I can't say the BG has changed at all...the makeover is pretty darn superficial. It does look a tad less "sleazy," but it is still too hot, not enough seats, and the failure of the staff to do anything promotion-wise to get ladies into the aircon area upstairs means that that spot is now going on x months without a single customer ever sitting there. I have always found day quality to be lower than night, and as a regular, think that you get way more office or department store gals who rarely show coming in only at night, so a chance for the new unjaded talent...met 2 Rangsit Uni gals in there the other night whom I'd never seen before....BG just varies all the time everyday. Weekends or end of the month, when rent is due, are supposed to be hopping, but one might go in on Fri the 30th and find the selection atrocious. Or show up mid week mid month and for some reason, it is full of stunners...a lot of expats go to drink at the BG as it is a nice no hassle place full of women with hands down the cheapest prices in the area (a chang in the Thermae has now gone up to 90 baht in the space of less than 3 months), whereas the BG is still at 65 after a price hike..there are no BF's to be paid, and the going rate is 1000 baht for a gal..if you are paying more, you do not live in Bkk nor are you willing to trust your instincts and be patient. It seems that this has been the quietest tourist November I've ever seen in the BG, and i think that quality and quantity has been excellent
I land in the morgning and fligth out again at about 21:00. I was told that the taxi time can be upto 2hour in rushours. The customen is fast, 30min af lande I was sitting in a taxi.
I had a day BKK. Biergarden open at 10:00 or early, I pick a girl(7/10) at about 12:00, nice but not that great, special in the bed the action was not that good. Later I was on EDEN, I only find 1 rearly nice(8/10), so I did it with only her. She was realy into it, her task was to please me, so 2 pop.
I can only compare BKK and Pattaja in the time span 8:00- 17:00, and I will say that there is more buttiful girls in Pattaja, or atleast it easy to find some nice girls in Pattaja in the daytime.
ThaiLearner
11-28-06, 17:46
As most of you are aware the tax goes up tp 700bht from 500bht.
I have heard that the nex tax will be included in your air fair ticket.
Is this correct?
ThaiLearner
11-28-06, 18:07
Hi
I have explored Phuket & Pattaya but not go around to exploring Bangkok.
Did stay in a Bangkok hotel for a night with a Thai girl i met in England but i have no idea where it is or where I went.
Where are the best places to go and have a good/great time and which hotels are near to these places. I am happy with cheap and cheerful as long as it has aircon and is girl friendly.
Thanks
Wander Luster
11-28-06, 20:42
Well shit, I'm cross posting, but really this is about Bangkok and the Philippines, so gotta do it. I've been reading and posting since WSG was .org back in 1996, so my member name changed, my posts look low, but maybe some slack will be cut.
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Been a long time since I did any kind of real “report”.
Have spent 12 of last 28 months in Cebu. ALL other months in USA.
For 3 weeks I've escaped to LOS and found that the ol' "boring" discussion of thai compared to Phil woman is actually NOT boring and is interesting.
They are truly a different breed. And their backyards are very different places.
True, in the Phils I'm JUST in cebu, having never stepped foot in a bar in Manila or AC. Therefor, Cebu is a puddle and as I write here from Bangkok, well it is certainly an ocean.
Prices: The costs are about 2,150 B here ST and in Cebu it’s about the same price for most places. The dollar is about 1::35 here and 1::50 in Cebu. I discuss performance and experience below, but the sheer amount of choice here makes the deal much better then the numbers sound. On some nights in Cebu it’s a lot of work to find someone that’s an 8+ or 9. Here it should be do-able any night at Nana or Soi Cowboy. You can cherry pick easier (no pun intended). And to me, Cherry picking is what sets a good monger apart from a great one. Only problem is that the beers and especially the ladies drinks really add up here. I think they are a good ½ or even 2X more here. If in Manila is prob more similar for all prices. In AC, Bangkok must be easy 2X more for everything monger related.
I've stayed at a couple places here. And I did a lot of research. I want too give a huge thumbs up to "Drop Inn" on Soi 30 Suk. It’s only 1-2 years old and rocks for the money. This place is about 23 USD, within a long stone’s throw (5 minute walk) of Soi Cowboy and a quick hop on the skytrain to Nana. It's a 3 star hotel with a lot of class, FREE wireless and land-line access, etc.
After boning countless women in Cebu, LOS is such a massive breath of fresh air. And the biggest difference I see here is one that others don't bring up as much. I think IF you are the type that girls can feel that special GF feeling for, this is in some ways better. That is harder to find here! In Cebu and the Phils in general all the girls want a damn ticket to the USA and it is on there mind 24/7. They are so into the heaven that is the US (Heaven compared to life in a shack, hell in ways they don’t know about) that they really don't care if the person they are with is a corpse.
Here I don't see that as much. The worship of the USA is missing and what a relief! This country has a lot to be proud of. They have a religion that may have even "got it right" better then we have in US and Europe. I am also sick of the worship of the overseas worker that is found in Phils. What a dumb idea for the head of a country to encourage all best and brightest to go away…especially at a time when outsourcing can make the Phils stronger in a lot of ways if they play that game 110% now.
I am on the verge of middle age so it’s not as easy to find the GF experience here as it was on the other 4 visits I did here, all of which were in my late 20s and early/mid 30s. I've been with 4 girls here. 2 of the 4 were very good in bed but it was not a true GF "I like it too" experience. I hate if girls are faking it, and I'm damn good at knowing at least to some extent. One of those was at a message place, so that’s to be expected. She certainly did her job well. No complaints about that.
But the 2 that stepped out of there "job" while with me, wow, they had passion that is just not the same as Phil girls. I think they are more seductive. They are in less of a rush, which I like. Most, not all, girls in the Phils have that Latin passion which says "let's fuck like jack-hammers" quick, quick. But the 2 here that were into it...wow, really slow and seductive sex that went on and on and on. Nothing wrong with the “faster, quicker, harder”, but for me I like it slow and very long building up to a bigger bang.
I also learned, after 4 other trips to LOS, that beer bars may be better than dance bars if you’re looking for what I mention above. A lot of the girls dancing that are new speak NO English. For me that's a turn-off.
My theory has always been if you want to be with someone who you pay but who actually enjoys it because you enjoy if they do...well it should not be someone in the biz for too long.
So the beer bars...they have to talk! The first of the 2 that were true GF experiences (and who I only did on one night) spoke zero English and I was her first white guy. But, she had been fucking for money with Thai guys previously. What a great attitude and just so FUN.
Second girl was one of the best fucks I've had in 2 years. Been with her 2 nights, but now I'm off for another location. She spoke very, very little but was a beer bar girl from Nana (3 weeks) and soi one (3 months), so had to learn Eng fast. She had a real job in a retail store prior…nice to be with someone that’s finished high school and knows things like “Africa is a continent, not a country”.
She was going to come with me down south to beaches, but it came out on the second night with her (which was free, although I gave her my dress shirt she’d worn to sleep the night prior) that a dude from Germany sent her 1000 euro, emails and calls her every day, and claims he’s coming for her and will be getting her a visa. Chump.
She quit her bar the second night I went with her…most or entirely because she had 1000 euro given to her 2 weeks prior by the German guys friend who delivered it to her in person, wrapped up, for her to open in front of all her co-workers at the bar… so she was actually no longer a bar girl my second night with her (she went AWOL).
He was with her ONE night. He then paid her like 100 Euro for that, had her drive to the airport with her and thinks he knows her because of all this and 2 weeks of emails and phone chats even though her English is almost nothing at this point. But, I don’t blame her for being afraid to go to a southern beach with me. She’s afraid he’ll dump the whole idea, and seems he is a decent catch (sucker might be a better word although she’s not the type to fuck him over in a nasty way…she BELIEVES 2 people can meet this way), as she says he treats her well and is in his 30s (she’s 22).
Guess that's part 1. Not sure what thread to put this/these in, but will do a part two from next destination if the action and the response from anyone warrants it.
Phantomtiger2
11-28-06, 22:45
As most of you are aware the tax goes up tp 700bht from 500bht.
I have heard that the nex tax will be included in your air fair ticket.
Is this correct?
Correct, new airline tickets issue after this year will be one all inclusive fare that will include the departure tax. Its a good thing as alot of people usually forgets the tax, uses up all the bahts (tax must be paid in bahts ONLY), find exchange changers at last minute before being let out of country. A pain for anyone in a rush to leave.
PT
Wanderluster.
Nice story, keep it up. This board doesn't comment much, so if you don't get much feedback, it doesn't mean your story isn't appreciated.
let's hear some more, and if you have pics, well.... so much the better.
Old Thai Hand
11-29-06, 03:55
Wanderluster.
Nice story, keep it up. This board doesn't comment much, so if you don't get much feedback, it doesn't mean your story isn't appreciated.
let's hear some more, and if you have pics, well.... so much the better.I agree. This is one of the most interesting and useful posts in ages. Notice it didn't make Jackson's sugestion for a Report of Distinction - maybe because it isn't the same boring shit, which seems to be his criteria.
I've gone ahead and posted it, anyway.
Wanderluster, please report more if you can. It's nice to have a different perspective.
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Hi OTH,
Any Forum Member may post a link to any report that they believe qualifies as a Report of Distinction.
As I moderate the Regular Member's reports, I try to identify and tag the reports that I believe qualify as RODs. However, I don't moderate the Senior Member's reports, so I'm not in a position to suggest which of their reports should also be listed as ROD, and thus I rely on the membership to help and identify these reports.
In other words, identifying and tagging ROD is everybody's job, not just mine.
The primary reason I try to indentify some ROD's myself is to give other members some idea of what qualifies as a ROD.
Thanks,
Jackson
It's been a long time since i've ventured into town, too much work, and it really is more of a chore than anything, but this time i was dragged kicking and screaming !
We hit Soi Cowboy around 8pm and trawled some bars, IMO Soi Cowboy is the place of choice for those that like more than a look in the bar, Soi Cowboy has a number of 'touching' bars, to my knowledge there are NONE in Nana.
Toy Boy is one such 'touchy' bar, and it was unusually quiet, we sat and enjoyed our beers, the music was very quiet, and actually perfect for chatting to friends whilst soaking it in, obviously there were a mirage of girls all eager to 'take care of him' but as i always do in these bars, i took a slow look around at the offerings and invited 2 to join me for a drink, the others will always try for 1 cola, but i stick to my guns in a smiley way and it has never failed, whilst the girls aim here is to whip your boy out as quickly as possible, pull it roughly for as little as possible and down as many colas and tequillas in the process, it doesn't HAVE to be that way. The girls here always seem to give good head and neck massages, and i decided to enjoy that whilst my freind decided to do an 'Opebo' with the girl bent over the bar, he is a little reckless, but it was his choice, i reminded him of where we were, but he was concentrating on things other than my voice. I took another look around the bar, and none of the girls in there were shocked or surprised at these actions. Shortly after he had 'finished' we paid up and left, my bill was 1 beer and 2 lady drinks, anyone complaining or warning of these bars as rip offs where you are fleeced for drinks, simply does not understand how they work. Even if i do partake in the touchy extras, i always explain to the girls, that its a one cola each show and 200 baht each tip, i explain they can have it, or they can have half of it with some flat coke, it's always met with smiles and good action.
We left Toy Boy and headed straight into AfterSkool. Afterskool, for those that don’t know, has a naughty boys corner at the back of the bar, its where you can go for a HJ or BBJ, it used to be a tip as you go, up to you kind of place, but on this visit I was told prices had been standardized, a HJ was 300 baht and a BBJ was 700 baht, that would be plus the colas and tequilas, there were some nice looking girls, but I still hadn’t reached choosing time, so I passed. There is however a stunning girl who works here, in anyones opinion she would be amazing to look at, and she is 20yrs old, she does not do the touchy stuff in the bar, she wears Jeans and blouse and is amazing……until you speak to her, she speaks very good English and is basically a ‘I’m stunning and I know it’ girl, when I indicated I was interested, she explained it was 3,000 baht ST, no BJ, just FS, but before we could go she needed to check my size ! If I am too big, she won’t go ! Well, I know that won’t be a problem, and I was right, but why would I go ? In my opinion she will be an expensive starfish, I’d like to hear from any brothers who have tried her.
After Toy Boy we went into Sharks Bar, this is not a ‘touchie’ bar, there were some really good lookers on the poles in here, and even upstairs where there are 2 pool tables and a small go-go area.
Baccara bar was busy upstairs and downstairs, but I always find the girls to be very unapproachable, don’t know why, just never feel any want to chat with them, good lookers though.
Now I was ready to choose we moved across the street to Jungle Jims, this bar is owned by the same people as Toy Boy, Moonshines and a couple of others that escape me, all are ‘touchie’ bars, but JJ is very aggressive, it’s a long narrow bar, and there were at least 30 girls all waiting for a victim. After the usual sitting down, choosing 2, and getting drinks they hung around for a while, still trying to get the old boy out, or get a cola out of us, but they soon got the gist, not by us saying anything, but simply by paying lots of attention to the 4 we had with us.
I like these bars, because USUALLY, anal is on offer, it’s not as guaranteed as left of the yellow line, but it is very easy to find, I indicated to my 2 that it was time to go upstairs to the ST room, so we paid bar, 400 baht, paid for the room, 250 baht, and agreed 1,000 baht to each girl for 2 shots including anal and a little lesbian action.
The events in the room were good, both girls lived up to their end, the lesbian consisted of a nice 69 whilst I slipped in and out of ones arse, BBBJ, plenty of DFK, all in all a good session with 2 shots as promised and no request for any other monies. All in all I’d say around 45 minutes to an hour.
After that it was into the Offshore Bar, for sausages and chips and then a cab ride home. Not such a bad night after all.
Old Thai Hand
11-29-06, 10:48
whilst my freind decided to do an 'opebo' with the girl bent over the bar.
do an 'o****'???? roflmao. that might be his true "claim to fame" or perhaps more like 'infamy' on this board.
the only thing is, toy bar would be way out of o****'s price range (and league, quite frankly).
very nice report.
i wonder why jackson didn't recommend it for report of distinction status. do you think it's because you're not a green-horn, newbie and therefore don't have that "gee-whiz" factor? however, it's a much more useful and informative report than some newbie's first-time on cowboy where inevitably he'd be the guy paying too much and getting the "shaft" (pun intended - lol) at toy or some other bar. you explain in clear terms how to act and avoid that - much more useful information.
re: baccara
you didn't get any attention paid to you, as is generally the case for every farang because you aren't japanese and ready for 2-3-4. i'm five minutes away and go in there frequetly, just for a drink and a look. but, i know better than to expect more. as a friend of mine 'tastelessly' put it, "it's like hiroshima never happened!" (you had to be there. it was quite funny in context.)
I wonder why Jackson didn't recommend it for Report of Distinction status. Do you think it's because you're not a green-horn, newbie and therefore don't have that "gee-whiz" factor?I suggest it is because Mr. J does not vet Sr. Member reports. Seriously doubt he has seen it.
Old Thai Hand
11-29-06, 12:54
I suggest it is because Mr. J does not vet Sr. Member reports. Seriously doubt he has seen it.
That's a real possibility. But, I still wonder why he promotes almost every lengthy newbie post; good, bad or indifferent to a Report of Distinction, especially since many of them are cookie cutter reports - same experiences at the same places.
There's nothing wrong with these posts and I'm sure they provide other newbies useful information. I just question why they deserve any special status, except in the extremely rare circumstances that there's actually something new and different reported.
Wander Luster
11-29-06, 16:05
..........COWBOY
Very nice report.
I wonder why Jackson didn't recommend it for Report of Distinction status.
Thanks for the compliments on my penile working vacation report. Funny coincidence here! Last night after I wrote that, I was out and about and realized I've been at the bloody hotel for 5 days and soi cowboy is 3 mnutes away and in 4 or 5 visits to BKK I didn't THINK i'd ever been to cowboy. So I was out and about, looked at the map at the sky train, stopped by and then proceeded to shit my pants.
Never had seen it. It's fucking huge...but what is funny is by chance there is now as I log in to do a SEARCH about the area to go out in FIVE minutes, a fantastic report. So I'm outa here and over to Cowboy. Should have arranged to meet some of you. Can't believe I never went over their in the past.
Tomorrow I'm flying to Phuket, so I will report on both here and there...I am a newbie in some ways to Thailand given that it's been 4 or 5 years, but yes I've spent a good deal of time here in my early 30s/late 20s.
Guys, all regular posts get "checked" before being posted. If it is lenghty, pretty much regardless of content, or value, it gets suggested for ROD. However a good post, informative, interesting, funny, written by a senior member doesn't get seen prior to being posted.
a senior member could write a "Penthouse" type of report, give phone numbers, locations, make it fun, and hilarious, and it would not make it to ROD suggestion status.
kind of a double edge sword
Anyway, no big deal, there are too many RODs, which really don't belong there.
Agreed 1Ball, but the problem is, though I understand Mr.J´s postion (any new member who posts something beyond "Give me a contact number!" should be encouraged.)
They also pay him. Unlike freeloading Sr. members like us. ;)
Dilution is the problem. At first the ROD´s were a great way to get the feel of an area, now you have to sift the wheat from the chaff.
At the end of the day, not worth worrying about IMHO.
Sporadic, I doubt very much most regulars pay the 20$. On the contrary, I would think there is a higher percentage of seniors who pay, vs regulars who pay.
I paid a year ago, it is time to renew, but the rules around here have been tightenend to such an extreme, I don't feel like paying anymore.
When it was free, we were guests, now the way i see it, as a paying member, roles are reversed, and admin works for us, but that is only in theory.
There are 166,000 members. If only 20% pay the 20$, that is a whopping 664.000$. Not bad, huh!
Gentlemen, a question that always perturbed me and Im sure it must have been brought up on these boards before but hey, if so, im asking again!
What are your attitudes to 'going down' on a Thai working girl?
We all know how stunning and innocent some of them look and we have all heard the old 'I only been working 2 weeks' routine' and if you get a good one its very hard to resist- but being a health conscious guy it has always worried me. Last year I had the sheer worry of a condom splitting during a particularly top night- she worried about getting AIDS frome me which I found quite rich!
So, any tips or theories would be greatfully received.
Arrived in BKK last saturday evening and decided to head for patpong after a long time not having been there. If you stand in front of the Safari Bar, there is a bar not far at your right hand side, where they advertise the beer all night happy hour for 60 Baht. Sorry I forgot the name. Went in and after sitting down, a very cute girl approached me to sit with me. She spoke very little English, but was very cute and approaching. I decided to ask her how much she wanted for LT. Since she quote 2000, I agreed and made sure with the Mamasan that it was fot LT. Bought her and the Mamasan a drink and we headed for the room. Back in the room she started to explain, that LT means 2-3 hours and all night was 3000. I told her to get lost and gave her 100 B taxi money. Then she tried to renegotiate, but my mood was gone. Her Name is PIM !! Sorry, I didn't have a chance to take a picture. If someone knows the name of the bar, please PM me and I will edit my report and ad it...After having had the chance to get back there to check the name of the bar: It is the "Thighs" bar.
ThaiLearner
11-30-06, 01:24
Thanks for the compliments on my penile working vacation report. Funny coincidence here! Last night after I wrote that, I was out and about and realized I've been at the bloody hotel for 5 days and soi cowboy is 3 mnutes away and in 4 or 5 visits to BKK I didn't THINK i'd ever been to cowboy. So I was out and about, looked at the map at the sky train, stopped by and then proceeded to shit my pants.
Never had seen it. It's fucking huge...but what is funny is by chance there is now as I log in to do a SEARCH about the area to go out in FIVE minutes, a fantastic report. So I'm outa here and over to Cowboy. Should have arranged to meet some of you. Can't believe I never went over their in the past.
Tomorrow I'm flying to Phuket, so I will report on both here and there...I am a newbie in some ways to Thailand given that it's been 4 or 5 years, but yes I've spent a good deal of time here in my early 30s/late 20s.
Which hotel did you stay at near soi cowboy
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]Well shit, I'm cross posting, but really this is about Bangkok and the Philippines, so gotta do it. I've been reading and posting since WSG was .org back in 1996, so my member name changed, my posts look low, but maybe some slack will be cut.
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Nice report...i'm headed to the Philippines and Cebu for the first time next month, so maybe i'll write something similar...most of your observations are dead right from what i see and have been told..however, i think it is far cheaper here if you stay out of go gos...i never pay bar fines here, if i like a gal in a gogo, i ask her for her phone number and meet her either before or after work...also, never pay more than 1000 baht, st or lt...once gals know you know the scene and are nice to them, they are most accomodating. They know they can get bigger money at other times, some are only after that, but if things work out, they know you will repeat. Thus, you get rid of the lady drinks, bar fines, and st is definitely not 2100 baht..to my knowledge, in the Philippines, in most places, you've got to pay a bf...
ThaiLearner
11-30-06, 13:53
Hi
I have explored Phuket & Pattaya but not go around to exploring Bangkok.
Did stay in a Bangkok hotel for a night with a Thai girl i met in England but i have no idea where it is or where I went.
Where are the best places to go and have a good/great time and which hotels are near to these places. I am happy with cheap and cheerful as long as it has aircon and is girl friendly.
Thanks
Anyone some help would nice
Thanks
. I never pay bar fines here, if I like a gal in a gogo, I ask her for her phone number and meet her either before or after work. Also, never pay more than 1000 baht, st or lt. Once gals know you know the scene and are nice to them, they are most accomodating. They know they can get bigger money at other times, some are only after that, but if things work out, they know you will repeat. Thus, you get rid of the lady drinks, bar fines, . Excellent suggestion, Oldian. That's exactly what I'm planning to do on my next visit. It's perfect because I'm not a drinker anyway and I like daytime action. The trick is to get the girl to like you, but all that requires is being nice to them as you say.
Daddy
Anyone some help would nice
Thanks
RTFF and then come back with specific questions. We would be glad to help out then.
I walked through the cowboy last night and it seemed dead. I mean no energy.
The overall spirit of the welcome girls was way down. And I found suzy wongs 140 baht singha price to be a bit of a turkey.
I stepped into several bars and found no punters at the bars. I was there at peak hours 9: 30-close. I finally settled at Jungle Jims bar and found myself a really nice situation. The diddle bars are really growing on me. I basically sat at the bar and go to play with a nicely proportioned hardbody and down singhas.
I walked to the theramae and gave it a looksy.- wow. Numbers were way down, quality low. I kept it moving and walked up soi 7/1.
At the very end of the soi there are some 'late night' options but I was bushed.
It was a quiet nite at cowboy for sure. I don't visit Cowboy that often. I live near PP, and hit nana quite a bit, I save Cowboy for those times when I am burned out on PP and Nana [read: too many ladies looking for me]. Has cowboy been quiet like this?
ThaiLearner
11-30-06, 17:58
RTFF and then come back with specific questions. We would be glad to help out then.
Where are the best places to go (i have heard about soi cowboy & nana plaza but do not now where they are) and have a good/great time and which hotels are near to these places. I am happy with cheap and cheerful as long as it has aircon and is girl friendly, pool would be a bonus.
Thai learner, in the last 6 weeks or so, someone posted some maps of the area, including hotels, BTS stations, location of nana and Cowboy.
Sorry I don't even know which thread it was.
However, using the search facility, and spending an hour or so reading back 30 pages of the BKK forum will give you 10 times more information than any of us could give you in answer to a single question.
If you don't feel like doing that, get a room at livingstone's, and Giotto will be glad to spend an hour with you giving you names and locations of all the hot spots.
Good luck.
I was in Biergarten Soi 7 yesterday - and I can confirm that it did not change much. Was there at around 3 pm, and business was ok, the usual customers, and the usual girls quality. I (my POV) saw a maximum of two girls I would be interested in, and at least 30 in the agegroup 40 and up. Still not understandable for me why this place is so successful.
OK, it was bad luck, too - they played the 35 year old German Schlager "Rosarotes Gummiboot" when I was sitting at the bar, and that made me leave immediately, virtually vommiting the Goulasch Soup on the floor. I still like the Goulasch Soup, but not the Gummiboat.
I brought a customer to Eden - and I realized many bars and some massage places have opened in Soi 7/1 . Edens success is obviously bringing business to all the road. It is a bit Pattaya beer bar style, which is developing there, but it is a day time hunting ground, an alternative to Biergarten. The quality of the girls in those bars was much better than everything I saw in Soi 7.
Giotto
Where are the best places to go (i have heard about soi cowboy & nana plaza but do not now where they are) and have a good/great time and which hotels are near to these places. I am happy with cheap and cheerful as long as it has aircon and is girl friendly, pool would be a bonus.Everything is on sukhuvith road, Soi cowboy soi 21- 23 and Nana soi 4
http://www.bangkok-maps.com/
Hotels on this road that is gf (that I know of). City lodge soi 19 and 9, Grottino soi 19, Swisspark soi 11, Landmark soi4 (my favourite) or try the Livingstone on soi 33 haven’t stay there but someone told me it’s OK, and then you have the president group hotels on the road that is gf.
Spent 2 +5 days in BK 3-4 weeks ago and did both places.
Nana Plaza seems to have better looking girls and I have done a beer in maybe 40-50% of all the bars in both places, but its my opinion.
Cowboy have 1 or 2 good lookers in all the small bars but it depends on the day and time if you find them, even the bigger bars can have good and bad days.
The best places (to find a hot tg) IMOP is Rawhide, LongGung (same owner and they seem to switch girls between this 2), Baccara, and then you have Dollhouse SuziWong and I had a great time in Ouer place but they don’t have many lookers only 2-3.
Nana Plaza is better IMOP in all the bars I been I fund at least 1 I could have bf, but the best ones is Raibow4 on 2floor, if you don’t find one there (if you go early) you have problems they have a lot of girls and many hot ones.
Angel witch on 2 floor have the best show, and the show girls are damn hot.
And my favourite Carousel on 3 floor, I spent a lot of time in that bar, fun and good looking girls.
G Spot and the other 3 RB bars are good to.
Did some time in BeerGarden soi 7 where I usually find some one that is OK but the quality this trip was so so, but its always worth a visit.
Eden at soi 7/1, well what can I say, the girls aren’t the hottest ones but the service is ohhh!!
But all of this was 3 weeks ago and things changes fast in the bars.
yeah iam interested in knowing about the going down on the working girls" aswell...
ive personally never did it tho however tempting it may be sometimes. just grosses me out to know that youve not been the first, by far... maybey try it with a working girl who doesent speak very little or no english, thats a good indicator she's not been around too long usually.
I have lived in Thailand, and I still go there as often as I can, (at least 2 or 3 times a year)
I have never had sex with a woman without "going down on her"
If you never tried that with a asian woman, you have to try it. They are just delicious. I have had a few during the years, but I have never ever met one woman who not taste and smell absolutely delicious. I dont know about you, but for me its not a good time if I not do this. And they will love you for doing it. I should maybe point out that I am a bit picky with who I choose from the crowd.
Enjoy,
Ken
yeah iam interested in knowing about the going down on the working girls" aswell.
I've personally never did it tho however tempting it may be sometimes. just grosses me out to know that youve not been the first, by far... maybey try it with a working girl who doesent speak very little or no english, thats a good indicator she's not been around too long usually.
Okay Tors Ham,
I think Carousel is a ladyboy bar if I am not mistaken so those hot girls you are looking at might just be guys. Anybody out there can confirm that Carousel is strictly a ladyboy bar?
Okay Tors Ham,I think Carousel is a ladyboy bar..
You'll give the bloke a heart attack !!!
Carousel is NOT a ladyboy bar, it's cool, you may be confusing it with Cassonova ?
GermanBoy 2
12-01-06, 12:06
I left Bangkok nine days ago and the tax was still 500. It depends to airline if they will include it in ticket price, but the only one I know which is doing this is German "Condor"
As most of you are aware the tax goes up tp 700bht from 500bht.
I have heard that the nex tax will be included in your air fair ticket.
Is this correct?EDITOR'S NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed for editing to meet the Forum's Posting Guidelines (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php#postingguidelines).
I`m going to Bangkok soon ,have been there a few times,but havent seen any Eastern European ladies.Just cheking the best place to meet them is Grace Hotel?
Thanks for all the great informative posts I have read on here the last few days.
Okay Tors Ham,
I think Carousel is a ladyboy bar if I am not mistaken so those hot girls you are looking at might just be guys. Anybody out there can confirm that Carousel is strictly a ladyboy bar?The LB bars in Nana is Casanova on the 2 floor and I think that Obsession (not 100% about that one) on the 3 floor.
Lollipop on the ground floor has around 50% LB and if I am not wrong there is at least 1 that has cut away the pole. I almost did a mistake there 5555 he/she looks good in the dark after 10 beers 555.
Can be some bar that I have miss I usually try to walk around when I se these ones.
They have a nasty way to always try to touch you and they are known to be good pocket thieves.
Carousel is one of the bigger bars in nana and I haven’t seen any LB working there and the girl I BF from there told me that it is only girls that working there, but who knows 555.
ThaiLearner
12-01-06, 13:49
Everything is on sukhuvith road, Soi cowboy soi 21- 23 and Nana soi 4
http://www.bangkok-maps.com/
Hotels on this road that is gf (that I know of). City lodge soi 19 and 9, Grottino soi 19, Swisspark soi 11, Landmark soi4 (my favourite) or try the Livingstone on soi 33 haven’t stay there but someone told me it’s OK, and then you have the president group hotels on the road that is gf.
Spent 2 +5 days in BK 3-4 weeks ago and did both places.
Nana Plaza seems to have better looking girls and I have done a beer in maybe 40-50% of all the bars in both places, but its my opinion.
Cowboy have 1 or 2 good lookers in all the small bars but it depends on the day and time if you find them, even the bigger bars can have good and bad days.
The best places (to find a hot tg) IMOP is Rawhide, LongGung (same owner and they seem to switch girls between this 2), Baccara, and then you have Dollhouse SuziWong and I had a great time in Ouer place but they don’t have many lookers only 2-3.
Nana Plaza is better IMOP in all the bars I been I fund at least 1 I could have bf, but the best ones is Raibow4 on 2floor, if you don’t find one there (if you go early) you have problems they have a lot of girls and many hot ones.
Angel witch on 2 floor have the best show, and the show girls are damn hot.
And my favourite Carousel on 3 floor, I spent a lot of time in that bar, fun and good looking girls.
G Spot and the other 3 RB bars are good to.
Did some time in BeerGarden soi 7 where I usually find some one that is OK but the quality this trip was so so, but its always worth a visit.
Eden at soi 7/1, well what can I say, the girls aren’t the hottest ones but the service is ohhh!!
But all of this was 3 weeks ago and things changes fast in the bars.
Thanks for the info
Hi,
Just checking the Grace Hotel.
Is the best place to meet Eastern Eorpean women in Bangkok.
Thanks
Anyone ever encounter this little situation?
I received a call this morning from a semi regular TG. She works at NEP. Though this is a rather private matter, I thought I would post the issue in order to listen to points of view, comments and obvious advise. I have been traveling to BKK since 03-7 times per year on business/pleasure. I have many freinds in BKK, know the city well and even own a new 4 bedroom home in Ragsit. I still work in the US and have my own business. Not sure what this has to do with nything. Anyway 4 weeks ago I was with this BG who I enjoy spending time with in her apartment. She's 24 from one of the Rainbow bars. I did not use proetction on several occations (yes I know, I know-though she claims she was using medicine-still my responsiblity) and she now says she is 4 weeks pregnant! I wonder how common this is. Is this a story for money, how can I be certain its mine ect. I intend to ask her to have the pregancy terminated and will pay thoses costs. Anyone have any sage advice or know others who have been so notified. Is this legite? O well another BKK situation so thought I'd report it for informational purposes.
Bill Lee's nightly hunting activities in Bangkok, should be of interest in this thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=536746
Giotto
found myself in bangkok again after much too long an absence.
arrived late in bangkok late saturday night and headed straight for nana plaza. as always, nana was pumping and anglewitch was no disappointment with leather, fishnets and stilettos filling the dancefloor. overall the standard of girl was pretty mixed with maybe a quarter being of a good standard with the same proportion appearing reasonable. it was entirely appropriate that the bottom quarter were wearing leather dog collars. there were some interesting dance routines. a girl, fortunately from the upper quartile, quickly wrapped herself around me and to my travelworn eyes she seemed quite attractive although maybe a little hard around the edges from too many years on the circuit. we spent some time together but my interest was in some relaxation before even thinking about a bar fine and she eventually drifted toward a regular who was shouting shooters. for the record, beer is running at 130 baht a bottle, the same for most bars at nana.
next stop was rainbow 4 - an amazing number of girls still dancing late at night and many of them quite attractive. however, there were one or two exceptions and mongers should be relieved that the famous "sick/dieing water buffalo" is alive and well and has recuperated sufficiently to be able to swing on a pole at rainbow 4. send no more money. in a short time, i got the impression that the girls were predominantly interested in japanese punters - probably not a great strategy for everyone involved given the ratio of girls to japanese was a kazillion to 1, and most of the japanese were leaving empty-handed. for some reason that didn't seem to improve the chances for the rest of us.
closing time came but the night was still young for me - i'd only been awake for 20 hours and wasn't going to miss a moment's opportunity to suck up the late night atmosphere of bangkok, so took up a position in nana car park to watch the heaving mass of humanity hemorrhaging from nana plaza. after all the reports i'd read of nana carpark, i have to say i was underwhelmed. i had somehow imagined something more than a carpark with, well, cars in it and a handful or two of sometimes desperate girls and equally desperate punters. undeterred, i was reluctant to relinquish the night, so bought a beer (90 baht) and sat on the steps of the nana hotel restaurant sharing drinks and stories with one of the cuter girls and some of the more colorful ones until after 5am. took cute girl back to my hotel but unfortunately the foreplay of the carpark was more exciting than the main event. sigh.
sunday being a religous day, i decided to make a pilgrimage back to patpong and an old favourite of mine - safari bar. on my two visits to bkk i have scored two gfe stunners at the safari bar and have enjoyed a number of great nights there. while i don't rate any of the other bars in patpong, i've always defended safari, even if it is a bit tame. unfortunately, all that has now come to an end and i've probably made my last visit there. the only redeeming feature was being able to watch motorcycle racing on the tv while receiving a massage. there was one or two little cuties there, but overall i wouldn't think it was worth the effort. if you go there, take a good book in case the tv is on the blink.
arrived at soi cowboy a la tuktuk. started at apache - a small bar that come with the glowing recommendation from rtff that the girls danced on glass top tables without any panties and that you could quietly maul the ones who sat with you. well that's the theory. this place was interesting in that i was the only punter in the bar - actually, that's hardly interesting at all. and neither were the girls - not really a pretty one amongst them. however, i attached myself to a lithe young thing from issan with a great figure who moved well and had a great sense of humour - shame about the face (although she's probably writing the same about me on some thai bargirls site). somehow, we made a bit of a connection and every time i was in soi cowboy i'd visit her for a drink and a laugh - never took her home although she was good to have up my sleeve, so to speak, and i think would have given a nice rough little ride in bed. mamasan seemed to appreciate my regular custom although she never cut me any slack. what i couldn't understand was the fact that i'm the only punter sitting in the bar and yet when issan girl's dance rotation came around she had to attach herself to a pole and start gyrating. while i can understand the need for some girls to be putting on a show for any punter who poked their head in the door, i would have thought the other thing that would help attract punters would be a display of how friendly the girls are. i'd bought a ladydrink - what's the harm in letting her sit out a dance or two? i also didn't appreciate watching one of the girls getting drunk on thai whisky - a big turn-off. left having confirmed that the girls don't wear anything under their vapour-thin skirts.
next stop raw hide - the little sister of long gun. while i had fond memories of long gun and considered that that bar occupied the giddy heights of go-go bars, i was immediately taken by raw hide. there's three tiers of dancers - the minx, the vixens, and the nymphettes. the minx are the top tier - attractive, stunning, athletic. there's 3 of them although occasionally a few others join the group without diluting the quality. these girls put on some pretty rigorous and raunchy dance performances, very similar to what you'll find at long gun, although the girls can be very elusive on the floor between dances. the vixens are a bigger group but are still good looking and also put on a choreographed show, albeit a little tamer. and then there's the nymphettes - the younger girls who "sway" - overall, still quite pretty, young and slim. i think i walked in on their secretary show where they start off in straight black skirts, white blouse and rimmed glasses before stripping to naked over their 3 dance rotation. there's also the girls who do the show with smoking cigarettes and blowing horns but it also seems a bit superfluous given the standard of choreography at rawhide. over the nights that i returned to rawhide, i got the impression that you'd be happy to take home (and wake up next to) almost any of the girls at that bar - and i'm one picky individual.
by some good fortune, i ended the evening with a minx snuggled up next to me. this was a surprise given how aloof they seemed to be but she later told me that she's actually quite shy - difficult to reconcile when you see her dance but after spending some time with her, i actually think it was the truth. between dance sets she would stride around in shorts and a t-shirt unlike the other girls and i rarely saw her with a customer. i was to later learn that she's the no. 2 dancer at rawhide, and dances at long gun when they need her - makes for a busy night. i can't remember why, but chose to leave the bar empty handed (probably the prospect of a big meeting the next day) - a nice touch was that minx came down off stage to wish me goodnight as i'd seen other girls do for their companions.
bumped into an elephant in the soi - i was to later wonder whether the pacaderm had the larger brain of the two of us.
monday and i was glad to escape from meetings. being the anniversary of 9/11 i wanted to return to nana plaza where i had been 5 years ago on that very day. started at anglewitch and left after one beer with the impression that it'd be easier to catch a cold than a girl. tried g spot, which had also come with recommendations. this was a short-turnover bar for both dancers and customers. some attractive girls but overall i wasn't that impressed.
decided to walk from nana to soi cowboy and found the biergarten at soi 7. nearly did my head in - a room full of girls and all available - an almost surreal orchard tower where the girls sit passively instead of circling the floor in packs. and there were some real honeys too - quite a few, in fact. started drinking singha which never leads to a happy ending. found a cutie to talk to for awhile but then bailed out - the night was still young. it would seem by the posters on the door as you enter that you need to watch your wallet - some girls want to get into your pants, but not in the way you'd be expecting.
found soi cowboy. had a drink with issan girl at apache and then tried dollhouse. yum. generally younger girls dancing and most very reasonable to look at. the girls here dance topless. for some reason, the bar owner shouted a round of thai whiskey and sweets for the girls this night - the girls actually seem to enjoy working there. even those who have been barfined jump up on stage in their street clothes and dance when there's no compulsion for them to do so. this was my first meeting with a very attractive girl kaew with a meg ryan smile. while i love the stylised slim thai look, this girl actually had a figure - a great figure, with a lovely personality to match. flawless skin without a tattoo or piercing in sight. we were to become almost inseparable (separated only by my distractions with minx at rawhide). and for that very reason, i left dollhouse to reacquaint myself with rawhide and its delights within.
minx was occupied with another customer but soon peeled her self away and joined me. while things got off to a good start and minx was happy to cuddle up for the evening, at the telling moment she chose sleep over me, derailing my barfine plans. at least she was honest. but we agreed to meet again.
the next night i was at last able to take the opportunity to enjoy the delights of kaew from dollhouse. in street clothes, she was even more of a looker and her smile just got bigger. we enjoyed a late night snack, some shoe shopping and some laughs. when she told me that she enjoyed eating the fried bugs that you see on the street carts, i had trouble dealing with the imagery of one of those bugs passing her oh so desirable lips. at least we were able to agree that the fried creepy crawlies tasted nothing like chicken. made it to the hotel for a nice gfe - a great kisser who enjoyed daty (insisting on it, in fact) - something i only agreed to because she had such a neatly trimmed pussy and was clearly very clean (and wet!).
a few nights later i returned to rawhide in search of the minx. unfortunately she wasn't to be found and i became attached to one of the nymphettes - a lovely, albeit sultry, girl called pim. she'd caught my eye the first night as one of the secretary dancers. she spoke very little english and so we spent a nice evening cuddling and kissing until i decided to cross the soi for yet another taste of kaew at dollhouse. unfortunately it was also her night off - bugger, i have to get better at this!
another night and another visit to rawhide in search of minx. she wasn't to be found and within minutes pim the nymphette was wrapped around me and looking very pleased with herself. bought her a drink and settled in for the evening when minx appeared a short while later and even came over to say hello. what to do? minx pulled rank and helped me offload pim (i wasn't that happy about doing it to her, but there was a bigger prize at stake), and then the elusive minx was mine. it was a partnership both of us were very happy with. feeling very pleased with myself while watching minx on stage, i noticed a punter talking to her while she was dancing. at a point in the conversation, one of the waitresses standing near them gave me a look that said it all - "this is your moment of truth, buddy - he's just asked to barfine her." after a breathless moment, minx shook her head and the punter walked straight out the door. when she was back sitting beside me, i was like the cat who'd got the cream, and didn't waste another minute before barfining her. it can do your head in trying to imagine how minx's athletic performances on stage would translate to the bedroom - somewhere between erotic and downright dangerous.
soirees to the soi were eventually successful with two nights apiece with my doll kaew from dollhouse and the minx - two very special girls and four very special nights, more for the gfe experience than mind-blowing sex.
for the record, dollhouse charges 500 baht bar fine and doll was 2500 long time - i could most likely have got her for 2000 but i was happy with the package. minx at rawhide was a surprising 700 baht barfine but only 1500 long time - i think i was just very lucky there as i didn't even have to negotiate that price.
and susie wong was a big disappointment - i struggled to understand the reason for some of the glowing recommendations. this bar seems to (possibly) share common ownership between the old ship restaurant on the corner, suzie wong and apache.
stayed at watergate amari and avoided any problems by booking a double room - only had to register the girl, which i think is acceptable.
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Anyone ever encounter this little situation?
I received a call this morning from a semi regular TG. She works at NEP. Though this is a rather private matter, I thought I would post the issue in order to listen to points of view, comments and obvious advise. I have been traveling to BKK since 03-7 times per year on business/pleasure. I have many freinds in BKK, know the city well and even own a new 4 bedroom home in Ragsit. I still work in the US and have my own business. Not sure what this has to do with nything. Anyway 4 weeks ago I was with this BG who I enjoy spending time with in her apartment. She's 24 from one of the Rainbow bars. I did not use proetction on several occations (yes I know, I know-though she claims she was using medicine-still my responsiblity) and she now says she is 4 weeks pregnant! I wonder how common this is. Is this a story for money, how can I be certain its mine ect. I intend to ask her to have the pregancy terminated and will pay thoses costs. Anyone have any sage advice or know en so notified. Is this legite? O well another BKK situation so thought I'd report it for informational purposes. The questions here are
Do you love her.
Did you promise her something.
Do you sponsor her.
Did you suggested her to stop working bar.
Did you invite her to your appartment.
If you answer all this with a yes.
Then they are three option.
She is pregnant. May be she is pregnant. May be she is not pregnant.
You have the choice to do.
Drop her. Then avoid nana plaza. Change mobile number. Get lost for a while.
You can accept the fact she is pregnant and telling her you want to be sure is from you. Then a DNA test have to be done once baby here. Is it from you. You assume. Is it not from you case closed.
You see you have the choice what to do. But its up to you.
Suggest to place some report whats happen next. May be isg member can give wise advice.
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The Traveler
12-02-06, 19:08
Siddv,
tough situation and just another example why practicing "safe sex" can avoid a lot of troiuble.
As far as I know abortions are legal in LOS, under certain conditions !
It's hard to judge if she is speaking the truth or lying, because it's very likely that you weren't the only one she had bareback sex with. But it's very easy to check if you are the father of the baby or not. A simple blood test can prove that you aren't the father but it's no prove for your fatherhood. Only a DNA test may prove that. If in doubt insist in one.
From my point of view you can suggest an abortion but the girl has to make the final decision which you should respect. As a man of honour who takes responsibility for his actions you should pay alimonies to protect your kid from poverty and to allow her/him a good education.
Phantomtiger2
12-02-06, 20:03
siddv,
tough situation and just another example why practicing "safe sex" can avoid a lot of troiuble.
as far as i know abortions are legal in los, under certain conditions !
it's hard to judge if she is speaking the truth or lying, because it's very likely that you weren't the only one she had bareback sex with. but it's very easy to check if you are the father of the baby or not. a simple blood test can prove that you aren't the father but it's no prove for your fatherhood. only a dna test may prove that. if in doubt insist in one.
from my point of view you can suggest an abortion but the girl has to make the final decision which you should respect. as a man of honour who takes responsibility for his actions you should pay alimonies to protect your kid from poverty and to allow her/him a good education.
agree,
i've heard this stuff many times and not just from los, many times this happens in china and phillipines. most reports are usually false as stated above--you are not the only player.
if she is indeed pregnant--simple [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test from the pharmacy will tell if she's lying, then insist on dna blood test--rest is up to you.
pt
Retired Army
12-02-06, 20:49
http://joeschwartz.net/shemale/index.html
I am looking for reports or just advice on Gulliver's in Bangkok, especially in regards to the beautiful girls who play pool there. I have been to Gulliver's several times and I always see the most amazingly hot and talented girls playing pool. Especially during the day. These girls can really handle a stick and balls. My question is are they working? Of course a dumb question!!! But how do they work. Do you have to step up and let them kill you at pool first, or are they P4P in the regular sense? I love the joint, but would also like to play some pocket pool with some of these hotties elsewhere. Any advice or info is greatly appreciated.
i got 1 wrong... now thats a reassuring result for sure... hahahaha
http://joeschwartz.net/shemale/index.html13 out of 16 - not too bad, but also not to difficult. I don't think I'd score as equally with Thai katoeys included in the quiz (not without the voice at least).
YY
Hi,
Just checking the Grace Hotel.
Is the best place to meet Eastern Eorpean women in Bangkok.
Thanks
Radar,
Grace is certainly one of the places. Go to the coffee shop after midnight and there are plenty. Just down and across the street is Mike's place which has a brothel of sorts - in house only and no take out. A third place is CM2 disco at Siam Square. They will start witj 4K-5K baht long time. You can negotiate, but unlikely to get under 3.5K. Good luck and be sure to ppost your experiences.
Siddv,
IF you are in fact the father, and
IF she agrees to an abortion,
pay the hospital directly.
JMO
http://joeschwartz.net/shemale/index.html
9/16! Not sure which way that score goes, but whatever way it does, I need help!
Siddv,
tough situation and just another example why practicing "safe sex" can avoid a lot of troiuble.
From my point of view you can suggest an abortion but the girl has to make the final decision which you should respect. As a man of honour who takes responsibility for his actions you should pay alimonies to protect your kid from poverty and to allow her/him a good education.Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I posted this predicament on another expat website and have been getiting nothing but sactamonious BS responses for the most part. I figure this is not an all uncommon situation thus my post here. I certainly agree going BB could bring much worse consequences. I was weak. I'm a stand up guy and have the means to provide but do not want to be played either. She has indicated she is willing to terminate and will advise her tonight that I agree, then we will see what happens.
Thanks again
Old Thai Hand
12-03-06, 04:30
Siddv
You were with her 4 weeks ago and she now says she's 4 weeks pregnant? Think about the logistics of this, logically. Why after ONLY 4 weeks would she have already had a preganancy test? Presuming she's missed her period somewhere in that 4 weeks to prompt the test, it still seems highly suspicious. Generally, even in this day and age of home pregnancy tests, it's usually not this quick.
The 'pregnancy' scam is a very old one here. It happened to me 1 1/2 years ago when a regular I dumped because I got a GF, suddenly hit me with this. Of course, I knew right away it was a scam because I can't have kids and told her as much. I never heard from her again. The same thing has happened to friends, in particular one friend who's had it happen 3 times with 3 different girls.
The first thing is to go to the doctor with her and have her tested to verify she's pregnant. If it's a lie, it will all end pretty quickly at that point.
Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.
Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.
How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?
At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.
I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.
Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?
Thank!
BBBJ
Fast Eddie 48
12-03-06, 08:07
Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.
Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.
How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?
At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.
I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.
Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?
Thank!
BBBJ
to bbbj
You need to ask the mamasan right away if you see a babe you like to barfine the hot one get grab up right away , if you wait after 10 pm you will get the average one , again many girl in soi cowboy have regular some is reserved ahead of time by customer.
fast eddie 48
Retired Army
12-03-06, 09:58
I am looking for reports or just advice on Gulliver's in Bangkok, especially in regards to the beautiful girls who play pool there. I have been to Gulliver's several times and I always see the most amazingly hot and talented girls playing pool. Especially during the day. These girls can really handle a stick and balls. My question is are they working? Of course a dumb question!!! But how do they work. Do you have to step up and let them kill you at pool first, or are they P4P in the regular sense? I love the joint, but would also like to play some pocket pool with some of these hotties elsewhere. Any advice or info is greatly appreciated.
Just go there and try to look like a farang with a little money that would like to get laid and they will let you know they are interested. Why do you think they are there; waiting for their husbands to come home? Challenge them to pool, say hello, something, just make contact and the rest will follow naturally.
Retired Army
12-03-06, 10:06
I did not use proetction on several occations (yes I know, I know-though she claims she was using medicine-still my responsiblity) and she now says she is 4 weeks pregnant!
First of all, what are you doing screwing a bar girl without protection? Haven't you heard about STDs?
Chances are this is a scam, some girls do this on a regular basis to poor unsuspecting guys who don't know any better.
How do you think babies get made? Hell, I learned this hanging out in the pool halls when skipping middle school. What do you expect when not using good judgment?
Ok. I choose to focus on facts rather than scold or pass judgement.
4 weeks. Ok that means she has missed one period. Chicks are missing periods all the time, so missing one period is not the sure fire indicator.
At home prego tests. Almost as effective as the condom you 'forgot' to use. I've been there. Best to keep a cool head and make every choice count from here on out.
Has she been to a doctor? Either way take her to see one as you already hint that she may be scamming. If she resists a doctor visit she may be scamming, or maybe just scared of doctors. If you have a good Thai friend maybe he/she can intervene to see if there are any red flags you are culturally blind to.
Insist that it is your responsibility to be there if any thing should happen to her. Handing over a wad of cah and 'hoping' she will get an abortion is the biggest sucker move of all. If you make it that easy for her she will want to bully you for the next 18 years
Or sit back and wait. You will know what the deal is within 5 months.
I hope things work out for you. More people than will admit have been in the uneasy position you find yourself in. Cutting back on the booze is highly recommended.
Hi,
Does anyone know a good place where to find some 40 + chicks ? Big tits if possible.
I have read that the Beergarten has some of them. Other places where I can find some or they are all spread over the area?
It sounds like a strange request but I'm a young dog looking for something new. :D
Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.
Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.
How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?
At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.
I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.
Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?
Thank!
BBBJEverybody have there way to get the girl they want from the stage..
I try to get eye contact lift my glass and smile and flirt; if she is interested she will come over and have a LD drink with you.
If she’s not its probably going to be bad shag anyway and I see no meaning to hunt the ones that don’t want to go with you, there are so many others to choose from.
If you use the mamasan you don’t give the girl an option to back out and you can get someone that absolutely doesn’t want to go with you.
Can be many reasons for that, she can be waiting for her favourite customer to come, she feels bad or she doesn’t like you, anyway you wont get a good performance from her.
I never use the mamasan anymore I think that I have better chances to get a good one with this tactic.
There is still a hit or miss factor that you never can eliminate in this business.
Siddv
The 'pregnancy' scam is a very old one here. It happened to me 1 1/2 years ago when a regular I dumped because I got a GF, suddenly hit me with this. Of course, I knew right away it was a scam because I can't have kids and told her as much. I never heard from her again. The same thing has happened to friends, in particular one friend who's had it happen 3 times with 3 different girls.Thanks for the advice/confirmation TOH. This is exactly the situation I believe I have here. She has no qualms about terminating the pregancy, though she fieigns some sadness. After discussing the situation again recently within minutes texted me her account number at Kasicorn with the bank transfer code! In addition to wanting me to pay the medical costs (which I have obviouly agreed to) she claimed she did not know what those costs were and says that she will not be able to work for 3 weeks after the termination. In regards to that cost she mealry says. : Up to you" I think I'll send her some bhat and move on. A bit wiser. Thanks again.
Anyone ever encounter this little situation?
I received a call this morning from a semi regular TG. She works at NEP. Though this is a rather private matter, I thought I would post the issue in order to listen to points of view, comments and obvious advise. I have been traveling to BKK since 03-7 times per year on business/pleasure. I have many freinds in BKK, know the city well and even own a new 4 bedroom home in Ragsit. I still work in the US and have my own business. Not sure what this has to do with nything. Anyway 4 weeks ago I was with this BG who I enjoy spending time with in her apartment. She's 24 from one of the Rainbow bars. I did not use proetction on several occations (yes I know, I know-though she claims she was using medicine-still my responsiblity) and she now says she is 4 weeks pregnant! I wonder how common this is. Is this a story for money, how can I be certain its mine ect. I intend to ask her to have the pregancy terminated and will pay thoses costs. Anyone have any sage advice or know others who have been so notified. Is this legite? O well another BKK situation so thought I'd report it for informational purposes.Me and a friend of mine went to BKK 5-6 years ago (the first time ever for both of us) and he found a lovely lady in a gogo that stayed with him mostly of that trip.
That trip we spent $ like grass around us, not knowing better and maybe that’s why this happened.
One day he came to my room and told me he had a condom split with her and was worried for STD.
Well we went shopping for STD medicine just in case, but I told him (more as a joke) that he should be more worried about being a father and I told him wait 4-5 weeks after we have arrived home he will se 555.
4 weeks after arriving home he came over to me and guess what…..she called and told him she was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby.
We discuss a lot how to solve that problem and finally he did like this (in short terms).
He told her that he is not a rich man and cant support her and that he never wants to have anything to do with her again if she gives birth to it.
Born a baby after knowing each other for a week? She has to be crazy; it takes more than that to decide about this type of things.
If she born the baby she will have to raise it alone and he would only pay alimonies for the baby after they have done DNA testing to make sure it’s his.
The abortion (if she does that) he will pay after she has sent the invoice from the hospital to him.
I know him and if she would have born it he would have taken full responsibility for it, but both of us got the feeling it’s was a scam.
2 weeks after that he called her and asked what she had done. She had done an abortion (but who knows) Anyway, he never heard from her again, end of that story.
In your situation, well she probably have figure out that your economical situation is really good and she sees the opportunity to get out of the business or at least get some economical compensation for the child and thinking, that will make her life better.
But on the other hand maybe she is in Love with you?
If she is sure that the child (if there is one) is yours then you can be in trouble, she is 24 and can se the end of her gogo career.
Well I learned (after the first trip) to always use and always check the condom before I pop.
And believe me, after 5-6 years of mongering it have been 6-7 times when I have look down to check that I haven’t seen any trace of a condom or that the damn thing has been broken.
One thing is fore sure you are not the first one and definitely not the last one to end up in this type of situation.
Hope everything works out well for you.
I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.
Was there early, around 7:30 pm, and most Gogos had not even started the dance activities.
First step was Rainbow 4, may be 15 girls dancing, but the usually have up to 200 girls working there. The ladies were relatively young and not very attractive. I was immediately attacked by one lady, taking place next to me and trying to get into business with me - so I left.
Hollywood Carousel on the second floor - around 8:00 pm, no customer inside. 8 - 10 girls dancing.
Playschool downstairs - the selection was better. 25 girls dancing, the place started to fill up at 8:30 pm. Most of the girls mothers, a few stunners.
Voodoo - LB's dancing! I never realized that before! Some nice girls sitting in front at the beer bar, but inside - oh no, I don't go there again.
Hollywood on the groundfloor - LB's dancing. I couldn't believe it - what happens there in Nana? I know that there are some specialized LB bars, but now many standard gogo bars obviously employ LB's.
No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.
I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.
Giotto
M P Lurker
12-04-06, 09:37
Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.
Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.
How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?
At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.
I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.
Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?
Thank!
BBBJ
Ageeing with Ediie here.
Either you take action or you miss out. The best girls are snapped up very quickly if they are available at all.
So if you like a girl that is clearly well above the normal standard, make it known very smartly. Ask if she is available to come and sit with you at least.
She may already be taken by a regular.
But even if a girl is sitting down talking to you, she could get barfined by someone else from under your nose. So don't take too lng to find out if she likes you and wants to be barfined by you.
There are some girls who may have special priveliges where they get to choose who they go with, but not many I think.
Even if you have to act quickly and decisively, try to be respectful to the girl and give the impression that she is not just a piece of flesh being bought.
No matter how great a guy you are, you can easily lose out to regulars that the girls know well already.
By all means be friendly to girls not available to you, in case you get another chance in the future.
Realistically it sometimes takes persistence over time to get a chance to go with really hot girls (I'm referring to the top 1% here) and sometimes the time for that persistence is not available to you. Typical scenario: The girl doing the dance number is very pretty and has a fab body to boot. you discover that a regular has already got her sown up for tonight after she finishes her acts. Or perhaps she dissappears to Pataya for a few days with a regular customer.
Its much easier to get a high quality girl from a massage palour, because you get significant time with her in the booking, you get to find out something about the personality, and also how good in the sack. Some of these girls have boyfriends or sugar-daddies of course.
Old Thai Hand
12-04-06, 10:27
I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.
No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.
I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.
Giotto
NEP has become an over-priced tourist trap filled with newbies and Japanese and Korean wankers with more money than sense. The quality, which hasn't been that good for the last half dozen years has nose-dived except for a few here and there. The girls are overly aggressive, as you say and in general it's not at all pleasant going there. I was co-erced to go there a week ago with some friends and left after an hour or so...never again. At least at Cowboy there's not much pressure and there are still a few nice enough looking girls making it a pleasant place to relax and have a few.
Sorry to disagree with you about soi 33. But, although the atmosphere is relaxed, the girls are not worth the money they expect. Few, if any are really stunning. I feel that I'm too old for discos. But, if I was still inclined, I'd head to Rachada soi 4-8. That's where the stunners are. But, of course 99.9% are not P4P.
A few weeks ago, there were some posts about RCA. I should think that most, if not all mongers on this board (unless you're under 25) are way too old for RCA. The place is almost solely a teenage hang-out where most girls are in the 17-20 y.o. range and wouldn't be interested in most Farang unless they're super hunks.
M P Lurker
12-04-06, 10:49
You'll give the bloke a heart attack !!!
Carousel is NOT a ladyboy bar, it's cool, you may be confusing it with Cassonova ?
Last time I went to Carousel bar on 3rd floor in the the far right corner with all the artificial rocky landscape (maybe about 6 months ago), it had changed to a strictly LB bar (not sure when), whereas previously (a long time ago I guess) was a nudie gogo bar with just a few LBs. This visit there were no real girls at all. Hope I haven't made a mistake with the name of the bar.
I went there with my girlfriend (not LB) and her brother/sister who is a LB.
The breasts of some lady boys were impressive and I was invited to touch to see how beautiful breasts can grow on a LB with hormone threapy in some cases. Wasn't keen to go too far with the touching of course! However I felt relatively safe there due to being with my girlfriend, who had never been to a bar before. So was an experience for her to see Angel Witch shows and also a contrasting LB bar.
Can't vouch for current status of the bar. They change all the time.
I have never been to Casanova so can't comment on it.
Retired Army
12-04-06, 10:50
I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.
No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.
I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.
Giotto
Anyone who has spent more than a week in Bangkok isn't impressed with Nana. It's just a tourist trap.
The only bar worth patronizing in N.E.P is the Hog's Breath. When Woodstock was there they had good hamburgers. But at least you can still get a good grease burger from the cart at the entrance. That alone is worth the trip, especially at closing time.
Soi 33 doesn't appeal to me because of the rip offs with the lady drinks and the games they play with the charges on the cheques. Doesn't seem like the price to quality ratio is worth it. I haven't been there in a while, but The Office isn't too bad and the BBQ ribs restaurant (I forget the name) across the street with the jazz band is worth a visit.
For us older guys who have a few $ to spend Spaso's is the way to go. The prices and dress code keeps out most of the scum.
...Soi 33 doesn't appeal to me because of the rip offs with the lady drinks and the games they play with the charges on the cheques. Doesn't seem like the price to quality ratio is worth it. I haven't been there in a while, but The Office isn't too bad and the BBQ ribs restaurant (I forget the name) across the street with the jazz band is worth a visit. ...Retired Army,
Ribs across the street with jazz band - Mojo's. That's past. The bar was sold in the beginning of the year, no Blues any more, very very loud rock music.
I agree with most of your statement, but not all bars in Soi 33 are rip-off places (I must say that, of course :) ! Price to Quality ratio ... that of course something everybody has to evaluate for himself.
Here my actual take on Soi 33:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537128
Giotto
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Last time I went to Carousel bar on 3rd floor in the the far right corner with all the artificial rocky landscape
Cascade (can be wrong again, the name is 2hand info) is the name of LB bar on 3 fl (right corner) Nana Plaza, I reported earlier the name Obsession before, but that is wrong, sorry for that.
I haven’t been inside (can’t confirm the artificial rocky landscape) but from the outside its looks like a LB bar.
Obsession is on the ground floor don’t know remember if I have been there, but the name I remember.
Hollywood Carousel is the first bar on the left (3 floor) and it has 2 rotating dance floors.
The left floor had a show around 21-22 00, not as good as AW but OK.
Some of the girls starts work 20 00 in that bar so there are no meaning to go to early there.
If I don’t remember wrong its only 4 bars in that lever and 3 is OK (no LB)
The one on the right side has a mechanical bull inside and is always full with customers, fun place but not so good looking girls when I was there. (They also have shows)
2 bar on the left side (just dipped in the head there) looks like a table dancing bar?
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Greetings Tors Ham,
Apparently you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix it before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look.
Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.
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Jackson
Jackzonian
12-04-06, 23:16
This will be my first trip since the New Airport opened. I see folks paying Bt-1000+ to get to Pattaya. The trick on arrival at the old airport was to go to the upper level (drop offs, private cars etc.) and negotiate a rate with a random car/driver who just dropped off a stray traveller. Arriving at midnite from the USA, any chance of that happening at the New Airport? It doesn't seem like it. What is the best fare you old-hands are getting at the Airport to Pattaya? Thanks for any answers and to all the post'ers. Great stuff.
Jpc
Retired Army,
Ribs across the street with jazz band - Mojo's. That's past. The bar was sold in the beginning of the year, no Blues any more, very very loud rock music.
I agree with most of your statement, but not all bars in Soi 33 are rip-off places (I must say that, of course :) ! Price to Quality ratio ... that of course something everybody has to evaluate for himself.
Here my actual take on Soi 33:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537128
GiottoHow does the quality of girls compare in these spots? I've been going to Bangkok for years are have only tried Nana or Soi Cowboy and really have only found stunners in a few Nana gogos. Soi Cowboy has been especially hit or miss for me. Any other suggestions for real stunners? Not price sensitive, just looking for top notch young snapper.
Many thanks
How giotto, thats kind of odd.
I checked out Livingstons Lodge on Saturday night for the first time.
Upon entry a very nice looking hostess greeted me, I wanted to sit at the bar, but too many 'attractive but not attractive enough' ladies were all sitting at the bar. I piked a table where I could check out the whole room being my first time there. The hostess ushered me away from the table I wanted to one right next to the gogo stand. Bad enough that I couldn't sit where I wanted, now the hostess proceeded to introduce me to a steady stream of ladies I did not want to meet via the 'do you want drink wit this lady' line. I was there to check it out before I made my nightly rounds. Maybe have a couple beers buy some lady drinks. The hustle wouldn't stop so much so that I pounded my singha and left.
The gogo dancer was quite hot, the other ladies attractive, but overall a very uncomfortable experience. I was there just to have a beer. I let the hostess know when I walked in. I liked the set up, prices were great, but the service was awful.
I don't like nana either, but I can spend more than five minutes there. I was at livingstons for about 4 and a half. [not counting the ten minutes fending off the hostess and wait for check bin.]
AsiaTraveler2
12-05-06, 12:47
Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.
Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.
How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?
At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.
I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.
Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?
Thank!
BBBJ
BBBJ,
Whenever you go to a new city, state, country, etc., you need to be more observant. Watch what's happening around you and observe what the experienced hobbyists do. Better yet, do some homework before you go to these places. Research and observation will be well worth it. Look, I may be making the wrong assumption here and you may be a very experienced traveler. It's just my initial reaction to your post.
Now, to answer your question, you do not need to wait until the end of their shift. BKK go-go's are also not U.S. strip bars. You do not need to be tipping them "garter" style. Have one of the waitresses call the girl down for you. Just point her out! There's a reason they are on stage, the last\least of which is for your entertainment. Flag the girl, have a drink and see if there's chemistry, and then pay the bar fine. Skip the drink if you don't feel it's necessary or worth the time. I find that it's a good feeling out process, to weed out the merc's from the gems.
I hope this info helps.
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
12-05-06, 13:12
Anyone who has spent more than a week in Bangkok isn't impressed with Nana. It's just a tourist trap.
Yes and no. There are more and more mercenaries in NEP, but I will always pay a visit there. I have had some great experiences with some of the girls there, and found a real gem a few months ago. She was the best that I have had in BKK and she was working the Rainbow Bar on the ground floor. Accepted 2,000 baht with no questions asked and we just clicked.
Each place (NEP, Cowboy, Night Clubs, Artist Bars, Pool bars, etc.) have their pros and cons. I don't think ruling out any one place is ever a good idea. All it takes is one. All of us on the board are very different Joe's, with one thing in common, and that's the hobby. That's where the similarity often ends. Some of us are young, some old, some fat, some chiseled, Asian, Caucasian, rich, poor, laid back, aggressive. Everyone will have a preference and having options is always good.
AT2
Hi AsiaTraveler2,
You did indeed make the wrong assumption, but no offense taken.
Thanks for your clarifying answer.
Perhaps you (or anybody else for that matter) could give me some more insight into the following:
I'm always searching for a girl that is very skillful at the art of giving a BBBJ (hence the name) and will allow CIM/COF.
At the bars in the Cowboy, what's the best way of finding girls with these skills? The last time I asked the girl if she liked 'smoking'. She said 'OK, but only a little bit'. When I said 'I want a lot' she answered 'OK'.
Obviously she said OK purely to close the deal. Back at the hotel room she did show good BBBJ skills but would only do it once for like 3 minutes and CIM or COF was out of the question. Most she would allow was COB.
Should I ask the waitress to recommend a girl with these particular skills? Or is it simply a trial and error issue? Also, is there a polite way to describe that I'm looking for CIM/COF? (like 'smoking' is used to describe a BJ)?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
BBBJ
BBBJ,
Whenever you go to a new city, state, country, etc., you need to be more observant. Watch what's happening around you and observe what the experienced hobbyists do. Better yet, do some homework before you go to these places. Research and observation will be well worth it. Look, I may be making the wrong assumption here and you may be a very experienced traveler. It's just my initial reaction to your post.
Now, to answer your question, you do not need to wait until the end of their shift. BKK go-go's are also not U.S. strip bars. You do not need to be tipping them "garter" style. Have one of the waitresses call the girl down for you. Just point her out! There's a reason they are on stage, the last\least of which is for your entertainment. Flag the girl, have a drink and see if there's chemistry, and then pay the bar fine. Skip the drink if you don't feel it's necessary or worth the time. I find that it's a good feeling out process, to weed out the merc's from the gems.
I hope this info helps.
AT2
...
I'm always searching for a girl that is very skillful at the art of giving a BBBJ (hence the name) and will allow CIM/COF.
...
BBBJ,
Don't expect that a bar girl tells you the truth about her own abilities and preferences. Most of them want to make the deal, get the money - even if the experience is lousy and you do not return. They will promis you much more than they are willing to deliver.
The Mamasam / service staff in the bars usually also do not know too much about the abilities of a single girl. They do not get too much feed back from customers. That is different in massage parlours, the smaller soapies or oilies, where a good Mamasan really know about the girls and their services.
Nevertheless - there is only one method to find a girl with special skills: Try and Error. Try as long as you find one. And if you go for BBBJ CIM/COB - try Darling, Tulip, Eden.
Giotto
SexWithSmile
12-06-06, 06:41
No such bad experience for me: I paid a visit yesterday, and on the opposite I found it very civilized atmosphere: I sat where I wanted, asked for a nice Pina Colada, long-legged lady approached me without being intrusive, we had a long and pleasant chat, the gogo-girls made an impressive dance. I did not pick up the girl because I was tired, but I am sure I'll give a chance. So I guess it really depends on the day. As for the "attractive but not attractive enough", strange that we are so easily obsessed by the little details: feet a little bit big, rough hands (those poor girls wash their clothe without laundry machine). But I found the look, clothes, attitude and English are far superior here to some of the poor country-side ugly cows in the beer bars. I however agree that all the girls sit at the bar, leaving little space for us to sit there. I suggest a computerized seat allocation system like they have in the airlines industry.
How giotto, thats kind of odd.
I checked out Livingstons Lodge on Saturday night for the first time.
Upon entry a very nice looking hostess greeted me, I wanted to sit at the bar, but too many 'attractive but not attractive enough' ladies were all sitting at the bar. I piked a table where I could check out the whole room being my first time there. The hostess ushered me away from the table I wanted to one right next to the gogo stand. Bad enough that I couldn't sit where I wanted, now the hostess proceeded to introduce me to a steady stream of ladies I did not want to meet via the 'do you want drink wit this lady' line. I was there to check it out before I made my nightly rounds. Maybe have a couple beers buy some lady drinks. The hustle wouldn't stop so much so that I pounded my singha and left.
The gogo dancer was quite hot, the other ladies attractive, but overall a very uncomfortable experience. I was there just to have a beer. I let the hostess know when I walked in. I liked the set up, prices were great, but the service was awful.
I don't like nana either, but I can spend more than five minutes there. I was at livingstons for about 4 and a half. [not counting the ten minutes fending off the hostess and wait for check bin.]
I noticed below that someone had been unimpressed with the Nana carpark - for good reason of late unfortunately. The police have been harrassing the girls and arresting a few of them -the other night they filled up three cars with them and hauled them away. The girls have to pay 1,000 baht fine but also I assume get their name on some official record. This has freightened most of them away and the place has been near deserted on some nights until the 2am witching hour. Some still hang out around Nana Plaza, others have moved to Sukhumvit - a few have gone into the gogo buisness. One friend Ploy managed 1/2 a night as a gogo dancer before she pulled a muscle and decided this wasn't for her. Not sure what is causing this - maybe a lead up to the King's birthday which took place yesterday or maybe just a general crackdown on some of the more visible aspects of this trade.
There was also apparently a death at the Nana Hotel two nights ago - an Australian from a drug overdose - he was in his fifties - room 425 I was told. Not that I discovered this from the staff but was out for dinner with an old friend and her sister and friend - and the sister and friend had been playing pool with the guy earlier in the evening. What was so funny was how scared they all were of going back to the Nana because his ghost would still be hanging about for another day or so according to custom. Its amazing how much they all seem to believe in ghosts - my friend won't stay by herself in a strange room for fear of them - and she has a friend who I met and who seems quite sane who swears she was molested by one - a farang ghost nonethless who died in the apartment above hers. She ended up moving out.
Also - for the fellow who was looking for a great bbbj and swallow - if you can find Nam and her friend A in the Nana car park give them a try - both are fairly cute - 19 and 21 - no babies - and extremely giving and work quite well together.
WickedWilly
12-06-06, 14:13
As you complete a few trips you realize that nothing can be planned exactly ..... each trip comes up differently than expected. My latest trip is a prime example.
This is the first part of a mainly business trip that will encompass stints in BKK, Jakarta, Medan, KL, Penang, Singapore as well as virgin trips to AC and China. All in all nearly three months in wonderful Asia.
I flew Thai Airways first class to BKK my last trip to the old Bangkok airport. The first unplanned event happened 30 minutes before I was due to be picked up. I got a call from work saying there was a coup happening in BKK and there were tanks on the streets and martial law imposed. Not being one to put off a trip so longed for and despite advice from all around I continued as normal. The flight was great, I find Thai first to be very good, so apart from eating and drinking I slept all the way. The airport was extremely quiet and from touch down to hotel room was only 50 minutes. The ride in the Sheratons Merc, was the fastest I have ever done! As usual I checked-in, in the car, the whole process is easy and my suite at the Sheraton was as usual fantastic, as was the welcome and service.
The second thing that did not go to plan was soon to take place. I had met a couple via AFF (lets call the girl “F” who had flown to BKK to meet up and share a week of playing with each other and others. The first night was well planned with a rather sexy scenario awaiting, but disappointingly this could not take place as she had her period, I was disappointed she was gutted.
Still we managed to tour the bars, pick up a few girls and share the delights they offered. I took them to Angelwitch, chatted with Dave as always a great host and enjoyed my fav. BKK gogo.
After my AFF friends went to bed, I went out on the streets in search of some late night adventure. Outside Nana was dead quiet, no talent visible, so I ventured down Sukhumvit looking for any worth while ladies, eating or drinking in the street bars that open after all the stalls disappear. I got to just past Soi 11 fearing a first night alone when I spotted four attractive girls sitting together, eating and drinking … bingo. I sat down ordered a beer and soon was talking to these four lovely ladies. From the first moment I felt they were a class above the ordinary bar girl, good English and well dressed. We went on to discuss places to go clubbing and three of them eagerly agreed to take me to a club.
We went to a place near CM2 and arrived just after 3am. The place was really buzzing and soon I was dancing with two of the girls lets call them Jaylo (JL) and business girl (BG) for reasons you will find out. The other we will call quiet girl (QG) as she was less outgoing. We had a great time for a couple of hours, the girls really could dance, but by now I decided it was time for action. I would have liked to try all three but taxied off the quiet one.
Back at the Sheraton, the girls went to take a shower, but quickly BG came back and was asking how much, she started with 5,000, I said for both, but no she said 5,000 each. I laughed a bit, and she said “why are you laughing?” I explained very diplomatically that I was not new to LOS and although I was in an expensive hotel, I did not have to pay that sort of money and was happy for them to go if it was a problem, she explained they were not ordinary bar girls but "high class hostesses' from the Champagne Rooms, did not have to go with customers and where all university students or had good day time jobs too. I countered by saying I did not meet them in there and would never pay that sort of money and again said if they wanted that they had better go. BG talked to JL and they reply was to pay what I thought was reasonable. I said ok and would sort things out after the session.
Both girls had great figures, a little flat chested for me, but that aside I could not ask for much more. The session was pretty average, BG even ventured to put on a condom when she was giving BJ, which I soon stopped. I did have them both, but there was no interaction and ended up shooting my first load in BG.
I expected a fight when I paid them 2,000 but they left happily enough asking me to visit them in the Champagne Rooms ASAP.
The next day I had an excellent breakfast with the AFF couple and then went to the Royal Palace. I had to leave early as I had an appointment with my dentist, which turned out to be a five hour marathon and pretty uncomfortable.
The evening did not go to plan as I was later back than expected and missed the AFF couple, so I worked out for 90 minutes and then went to the Champagne Room. This is where the old "No Hands' place used to be. It is a more upscale bar with curtained off rooms, some with settee's, some beds. It has an Arabic feel and is very nice, it is also very expensive! Girls sit around, very sexily dressed and some where very attractive, a class above Soi 33. I was just curious so and after last nights performance was not expecting to stay long, but the three girls seemed over the moon to see me and introduced me to a new girl they had talked about who they described as very sexy and always horny. Sexy girl (SG) was indeed quite nice, obviously an Issan girl, but with a great figure and it turned out a lovely personality and a raving nympho!
They asked me if they could take me to a nicer room and lead me to the opposite side where there was a room with a bed. Now here it became interesting. All the girls went out of there way to make me feel happy, we had a great time. It soon became obvious that JL had the hots for me and this was confirmed when BG whispered in my ear that JL really, really liked me.
Well despite this I played with all the girls, knowing full well the bill would be high, but as I was having a wonderful evening, so I did not care. JL in particular could not keep her hands off me, but all the attention was welcome! At about 11.00 I thought I would call it a day, but the girls asked if they could see me after work. I said I could not handle all 4, but they said they just wanted to have some fun and liked me so I agreed to meet them in Bullies next door at one.
At 11.45 I got a call from BG saying her and JL where allowed off early so to meet them at Bullies at twelve, there we played pool and discussed the evening ahead, they said they wanted to continue the party in my room, and BG informed me that JL wanted me badly. I explained I was more than happy to party, but was not happy to pay for everyone as I had already spent 6,000 baht in the Champagne Rooms, BG said not to worry, they now regarded me as a friend and wanted to stay that way, so we would just party and have fun.
When the other girls turned up we went back to the hotel poured some drinks and proceeded to have fun. JL was very keen to carry on where we left off in the Champagne Rooms and she was soon cumming quite loudly encouraged by the other girls. During the action both SG and BG kept saying they were horny too and to prove it SG almost jumped on me as soon as JL was satisfied, it took all of two minutes to make her cum, but being really horny she carried on until her second and then proceeded to get me off too. BG did not want to be left out so she made sure she got her turn before SG could have her third turn, so I had to perform pretty dammed fast! Only QG did not join in, she just stayed, smiled and watched.
Now I was not sure what to do for payment, but JL actually asked me not to pay as she was already embarrassed by taking money the previous night, it turned out she had never been with a customer before only working there for 5 days before she met me. In the end I gave them some minor taxi money and was surprised when they asked to see me the next day for another nights partying.
The next day was spent with my AFF friends, F was still out of action and in the evening we went to CM2. Nothing much to note except I was called by JL and BG many times despite me saying I was not available the weekend. At this stage I thought they were becoming a nuisance and would not c them again. That night I took a very professional lady home who was very nice, but asked very quickly for 5,000 for LT. I declined asking for short time and we ended up agreeing on 2,000 for ST.
In the room the sex was very good, despite being professional about money she was a real GFE in bed. In the end she asked to stay LT at no extra cost, but I wanted to sleep in so politely declined.
The next day I spent some time at Morning night bar during the day, a great place to chill and have fun with some great girls. I partied with a couple of big breasted girls I know, Mod and Mona and could not resist a threesome for afternoon tea. This really was titty heaven, Mona has great breasts, but is slightly overweight, but Mod has a killer body including fantastic mammaries and I think is attractive as well.
That evening I met up with another couple I had seen in May, again met via AFF. The female part of this duo is one of the hottest women I have ever had, 33, 3 kids, but with an amazing face and body and a wonderful lover who begs to be doubled teamed. We said goodnight to couple No1. then came back to my room and played everyway possible on and off until midday. The highlight was her waking me up and us slowly making out while the husband slept, culminating with me cumming inside her for the first time, while she came very aggressively. This woman could make me consider marriage again, the guy is one lucky beggar.
That lunchtime I met up with Epi who rang to say he was briefly in town a really wonderful surprise. Sorry I could only make lunch Epi, but it was great catching up again.
After lunch we went to the Beergarden and just as Epi was leaving I saw G a very old friend and one of my all time favourite girls and the nearest thing I have had to a GF in Thailand. I had not called her as I knew her husband was in town and did not approach her for that reason, but she approached me and invited me to join them, much to my surprise. Mam was also there another old friend so it ended up being a rather nice afternoon there. After an hour the husband went and Gee suggested a threesome as Mam and her were both horny, much to my surprise. Not being one to refuse I spent the next 2 hours having some very fast and furious fun in my room.
I had to cut it short as I was meeting Ned a girl I had met in Pattaya who was coming up to see me. Ned is hot a solid 9 in my book (the photos are from June not this trip, but she still looked as good). She arrived prompt at 7, so we had free cocktails in the Sheraton Jazz bar, then came back to the hotel for some catching up in the bedroom. We spent the next day at Chatuchak Market, I bought her a few things which she thanked me for in the room before we went to the bus station to see her off.
I had already had a call to say that my AFF friends period was finished so that evening we could do one of our pre-planned fantasies. So we went off to Eden around 7pm and chose 4 girls to take away. These turned up at the Sheraton at 9.30 sharp as promised.
I will not go into detail as u all know how the Eden girls perform, but it was doubly exciting as F loved it so much she could not get enough. The permutations we went thru, were mind boggling and believe me everyone was knackered at the end. I however still fancied some clubbing. One girl had shown particular attention to me so I took her to SIN. We only spend 90 mins there but it was really good. She came back to the hotel with me and insisted we session again, I could have slept, but am too week to refuse!
The next night was my AFF friends last; she was so addicted to Eden that she wanted a repeat. I was not into back to back Eden sessions and had agreed to meet with the Champagne Girls, but the couple asked me to join them for the start of the session. Although only two Eden girls were there this time it still was a very hot session. I gave F. a real seeing to while the two Eden girls looked after the boyfriend, then both the E. girls wanted a piece of the action before I left, so I finished sandwiched between these two.
At midnight I went to bullies and met JL, SG and BG and we went to the bar at the top of SIN disco and had some food. BG had to meet a BF at 2.00, so the rest of us debated what to do. SG then got a call from he baby sitter saying that she had to go home, so SG was so disappointed she had to go, however she asked if we would join her at her apartment as she did not want to leave us and was very horny, so that’s were we went. SG had a very nice apartment, small but neat. SG took the baby to bed and JL and I started to make out on the settee. SG’s baby was not going to sleep easy though, every time she came into join us the baby would cry. JL and I however were not worried we were really going at it like young first time lovers. JL was so keen she put me in without a condom and really went for it hammer and tongs. All of a sudden the settee fell over and we ended up underneath, but still making out, this was so dammed hot. It got hotter though, SG got the baby off to sleep and made it quite clear that she wanted a piece of the action, we righted the settee and although surprised we were going at it without a condom joined in on the same terms. This really did become a ménage et tois so much so the settee not only turned over again but two of the legs broke, not that it stopped the girls they carried on with all of us underneath the settee, until the baby woke up. I was now dammed tired and sore after all the action and thought we would stop. JL had other ideas, she dragged me in the shower room and shagged me for another 30mins until we both came. We then showered and went to go to bed on the floor, but SG had not cum and insisted on riding me for another 15 minutes before she came. What a night!
In the morning we left early not much sleep was had. I offered to pay for the damage but SG said it was not a problem. Poor JL had to work so I dropped her off then had breakfast in the Sheraton before going to bed.
Is slept until mid-day but had to go to my dentist to have some veneers and crowns fitted. That took all afternoon so after I went back and relaxed, got the Butler to pock my bags as it was my last night while I went to the gym.
When I returned to the room I got a call from BG who asked if we could all go out again tonight. We agreed to meet at Champagne then go to SIN bar for supper and then go on to the disco later. QG was there this time so we all had fun for a while. I was told by SG that QG was disappointed to be the only one not to have had me yet and was hoping that she could try me tonight. SG and BG had to go around 12.30 as some old clients came in and wanted to take them out, they told me not to worry as they had refused long time and said they only had an hour, so they would join us later at SIN. So the three of us went there and had a drink and only ordered food when BG rang 45 mins later saying they were finished and on the way and to make sure there was some food for them.
As soon as they arrived SG was saying she was so horny, the guy had left her very unsatisfied and she wanted to cum, however the unanimous decision was she would have to wait until after we had gone to the club.
The club was buzzing when we arrived, our group got lots of stares from both sexes as we all danced, sometimes very sexily, It was really great. All the girls looked fantastic, they danced so well and I took turns dancing and playing with all of them. So many times the girls were hit on, guys were even coming up asking if they could take one or other of the girls. I did not mind, but they wanted to stay and enjoy so we did for a while. SG was then complaining she was so horny if we did not leave she would drag me to the toilet and have her way there, so we retired to the Sheraton.
There SG did not waste any time, I think JL was a bit jealous but I went with the flow, JL jumped in as soon as SG came not giving her a chance for more and we really did give the other girls a show. SG was complaining she wanted more, so I gave her my vibrator which had the girls in hysterics and to my surprise BG got off SG with it. Then BG said she wanted a turn so took over from JL who fell asleep for a while. After BG came, SG said I just had to have QG as she was to shy to ask, so I completed my task having QG for the first time. She was real sweet and I had her screaming much to the other girls delight. After this I said good-bye to BG and QG and slept with SG and JL only for 1 hour though as I had an early flight and of course SG wanted sex before I left which we did in the shower. One hell of a night for sure!
It was not hard leaving though as my next destination was my current favorite Jakarta and I had over 40 potential AFF dates awaiting! However, there was one more unexpected twist. As I was booking out a few air crew were booking in and they said they were the second flight into the new airport. So then and only then I found out I had to go to the new airport!
The new airport is fantastic especially if u are flying Thai. I was on business class and you are dropped off at entrance one, which leads straight to the check in. No baggage clearance like the old airport and much nicer kiosks. From check in to lounge is less than 100 meters, you check in walk a few seconds, pay your tax, walk a few more seconds, immigration, then a few more and you are in a huge business lounge. The bonus is when u go to your gate the walking distance is tiny, very well organized.
ADDITION
I forgot to report on one day of my trip so I will fill in here. I had spent the day out with my AFF friends, met up with JL and BG and sessioned with them both, but sent them away as I wanted an earlyish night. However, I got the urge to go out so I took to the streets about 2.30 am. I came across 5 girls again on the street drinking and eating. Within minutes they were calling over asking where I was from blah, blah blah! After about 15 minutes one girl who appeared to be the shyest came over and sat with me. She is the sweetest girl I have ever met in Thailand, not a stunner, but with an Ok face and body. She is 22 and had a real surprise in store for me.
Although physically she did not excite me too much and having just finished with JL and BG I found myself wanting this girl. I asked if she wanted to come back to the Sheraton and she kindly obliged.
In the room things started off as normal, separate showers, but Jane was so sweet and attentive all the time. Jane was not so sweet in bed and seemed to be really into me, very complimentary almost worshiping my body. After about 20 minutes of great foreplay, she climbed on top of me and put me in without the hint of the word “condom” then started to really dance on me and was obviously getting off. So, I grabbed her hips, arched my back and ground her to so I was rubbing her “sweet spot” and hitting deep inside. Now many girls cannot take this depth, but Janes eyes just rolled and she groaned and grinded harder. I was fascinated by her facial expressions, so much so I hardly noticed something wet, first on my chest, then my face, I was momentary distracted as she started to cry out, but then it hit me, a flood of liquid from my waist to my face, it was amazing. She came for what seemed like ages before collapsing on me and apologizing profusely that she was “so wet” she said it so innocently I do not think she knew about “female ejaculation” I had only ever experienced it once before and not to this degree, this girl was almost abnormal. Well after she recovered she was determined to get me off and she valiantly and enthusiastically did so even though it took another hour or so, She came twice more, not in the same way as before, but boy she did get wet, it was quite a turn on! I am not sure what the maid though in the morning the bed was damp for sure with slight stains, but nothing bad! I saw Jane on my return and she is a really lovely girl.
i'm always searching for a girl that is very skillful at the art of giving a bbbj (hence the name) and will allow cim/cof.
try [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. i think most of those girls will comply with that.
WickedWilly
12-06-06, 16:39
Or try Eden Club or AfterSkool in Soi Cowboy
Professor10
12-06-06, 17:15
Wickedwilly,
That was an outstanding report - one with great activity and description - I almost felt like I was there banging those chicks. You had some great time in BKK. We should all be so lucky - photos added to that report would be even better.
WickedWilly
12-06-06, 17:20
Prof. I do have some photos but the four girls are not bars girls and would not appreciate their photos being on an open website, sorry, its a shame all four were lovely and you guys would be drooling, they were one lucky find!
Or try Eden Club or AfterSkool in Soi Cowboy
Why do you say Afterskool? Is BBBJ a specialty of this gogo bar?
Mr Enternational
12-07-06, 08:02
What was so funny was how scared they all were of going back to the Nana because his ghost would still be hanging about for another day or so according to custom..Something that intrigued me when I was there in Sep was that the girl told my friend that he would have to remove his necklace with the cross on it before they did the deed. He said he gladly took it off, but I asked what did you do about that big ass cross tattoo that you have on your arm? He said that she didn't say anything about that.
M P Lurker
12-07-06, 10:00
I noticed below that someone had been unimpressed with the Nana carpark - for good reason of late unfortunately. The police have been harrassing the girls and arresting a few of them -the other night they filled up three cars with them and hauled them away. .
That is strange.
3 months back it was mainly just LBs and illegal immigrants that the police were after. Perhaps many of the girls have no valid Id or have the police really branched out to picking on honest girls just trying to make a few bucks?.
M P Lurker
12-07-06, 10:04
Last time I went to Carousel bar on 3rd floor in the the far right corner with all the artificial rocky landscape (maybe about 6 months ago), it had changed to a strictly LB bar (not sure when), whereas previously (a long time ago I guess) was a nudie gogo bar with just a few LBs. This visit there were no real girls at all. Hope I haven't made a mistake with the name of the bar.
I went there with my girlfriend (not LB) and her brother/sister who is a LB.
The breasts of some lady boys were impressive and I was invited to touch to see how beautiful breasts can grow on a LB with hormone threapy in some cases. Wasn't keen to go too far with the touching of course! However I felt relatively safe there due to being with my girlfriend, who had never been to a bar before. So was an experience for her to see Angel Witch shows and also a contrasting LB bar.
Can't vouch for current status of the bar. They change all the time.
I have never been to Casanova so can't comment on it.
Sorry guys. I got it wrong.
Someone else mentioned "Cascade" and then I realised that Cascade was the LB bar and not Carousel.
I wish the names weren't so similar. I'm getting too old!
Anybody know what is the availability of generic viagra or cialis in Bangkok pharmacies nowadays? Kamagra used to be widely available some one-two years ago, but in my last visit few months ago they only had the high priced genuine stuff.
Going there next week and would like to get some stocks.
I have just returned to the USA. I flew from Phuket- Bangkok-London- Miami. I thought it would be brutal. I have done it before however; I never look forward to the trip back to South Florida. I spent one night in BKK and hit a place called Boss. It is an after hours place full of hotties. I do not know the address however, the taxi was free, and the club pays the taxi’s to bring you there... 100 baht. Full of willing girls if you prefer an after hour delight when you arrive late to the LOS. I pulled a real excited girl who was willing to perform all that was required. (Never asked price… I gave 2000 in the AM with the utmost appreciation) I had planned to leave the next day to phuket and she almost had convinced me with BBJ’s and anything I wanted to stay in BKK. She was a hottie. She had been at hard Rock before and arrived with some friends. I like to hit CM2, Q-Bar, Bed and hard rock to see the normal stunners. After hours changes every day, for me Tequila dragon and Boss seem to be the places for after hours this last weekend. I did finally leave for Phuket. I need to mention that I stayed at the JW Marriott. Very girl friendly, they even went back and directed my friend to my room as we arrived separately. Take care Gents… Flyjets
I will post on my 5 days in Phuket later…..
RCA Knight
12-07-06, 19:57
Does any one know where are the 2 after-hour places that Flyjets was talking about?? called Boss and Tequila Dragon.
Quote Flyjets<<I like to hit CM2, Q-Bar, Bed and hard rock to see the normal stunners>>
I believe CM2 and Hard Rock are mostly workers. And Bed Bar and Q Bar are mixed of normal girls and some workers.
Does any one know where are the 2 after-hour places that Flyjets was talking about?? called Boss and Tequila Dragon.
Quote Flyjets<<I like to hit CM2, Q-Bar, Bed and hard rock to see the normal stunners>>
I believe CM2 and Hard Rock are mostly workers. And Bed Bar and Q Bar are mixed of normal girls and some workers.
CM2 and Hard Rock I would say have over 90% working girls. Qbar would be over 75%. There doesn't seem to be too many girls working at Bed Club and mostly a mix of European and Thai clientele. Boss disco is by Big C in Chitlom area. Ask any taxi and they will know where it is since they get a commission. Need to be careful because last time I went, they weren't giving out commissions so my taxi driver tried to tell me they were closed and tried to get me to go someplace else but I just got out of the taxi. Also don't be alarmed if the taxi takes you through some side streets that look a little scary but that is the way to go. Tequila Dragon is new and I haven't been there yet but I heard it is kind of slow. Anybody can give an update on Tequila Dragon?
RCA Knight
12-07-06, 20:38
Just chat with my pal in BKK on MSN and he knows both places. Yes, Boss Club is a after-hour place open till the wee hours near Big C Pratunam. And Tequila Dragon is a late hour pool bar type of place at Sukumvit soi 7/1, both places have working ladies by the way.
WickedWilly
12-08-06, 09:18
Afterskool has a naughty boy corner, just buy a few tequillas and take a girl there when shes happy the BBBJ's are a little public, but the girls are pretty skilled! Cost around 500/600 baht I think no BF required!
Traveler1234
12-10-06, 00:26
-Best find this weekend. boys where going to go to Darlings as posted in previously, but our tuk-tuk driver said the place is so run down and took us to Plaza Entertainment Complex to Cupid massage, same cost as Darlings but promised us good looking girls he wasn't wrong. He even came in and said if we didn't like he would take us someplace else no charge. We got there on Sunday Night at 8:00pm after dinner when you enter on the left hand side their are women sitting on sofas and to the right there are women in the fishbowl. Women in the fishbowl cost 2500 baht for 2 hours while the women on the couches to the left when you enter are 3,000 for 2 hours. The ones on the left are stunning! we had our beers, no rush to choose your women.
(let me tell you there was over 150 women to choose from we couldnt believe our eyes when we entered the place. The guy even said there are more on Friday and Saturday evening. Unbelievable
Glad you guys had a great time.
FYI, you were taken by the tuk tuk driver, literally 'taken'.
Price for MP is 2000, you paid 2,500 so the driver got a 500 commission. If you had gone to next floor (main floor actually), the MP is called Entertainment Plaza, which usually does not rip you off.
Also, you actually saw 150 women.....not maybe 30 or even 50? I was just at NEP about two weeks ago and maybe bad luck - less than 10 in the fishbowel and it was a Thursday night, around 10 pm.
On a recent (Nov 2006) trip to SEA, I decided to sample some of the more eclectic massage places there are in BKK. After some browsing and reading, I came up with a list of three places that I wanted to try
HANA Massage on the surface is just another one of the Thai and Oil Massage places that are littering Sukhumvit. Its mamasan is Rin, who earned a reputation for Chap Kar Sai and has previously worked at Subway (Ratchadaphisek).
SAZANKA Massage offers Korean style Akasuri massage, i.e. a full body salt scrub and a muscular deep tissue massage. Hand-jobs come as standard.
AKANE Fashion Massage offers a, well, Japanese treatment – full body massage, a muscular deep tissue massage and, ahem, anal rimming by one girl wile another one gives you a BJ.
To be a bit more complete, here’s my complete rundown:
HANA Massage
***What is special: Traditional Thai and Oil massage, and Chap Kar Sai. Chap Kar Sai is a non-sexual genital massage which is supposed improve blood flow and circulation in that vital area. Although it’s against Chap Kar Sai good practice, Rin will provide a HJ.
*** Is it really special? Yes - I never came so intensely after a HJ.
*** Girls: Rin is a 40 year old lady. Don’t go there for looks, go there for the massage.
*** Cost: 400 baht for 2 hours of Thai massage, plus a tip if you are not a cheap charley
*** Is it worth it? Yes, 1000 baht - and I never came so intensely after a HJ.
*** Where: Sukhumvit Soi 22, walk past the Queens hotel and you will find it in a tiny little alley left
*** More information: Hana website is here http://hanamassage.web.fc2.com and you can find more on Chap Kar Sai here http://www.tao-garden.com/clinic_v1/karsai.php .
SAZANKA Massage
***What is special: Massage offers Akasuri Korean massage, a full body salt scrub and a muscular deep tissue massage. Hand-jobs come as standard and are special: I do not understand what the girls exactly do, but they delicately touch you balls and shaft and it feels very special.
*** Is it really special? Yes - I never felt cleaner than after the salt scrub.
*** Patrons: Many Japanese, (maybe) an odd Korean and quite a lot Caucasian.
*** Girls: When you enter, you chose your girl from a book with photos. You also chose your treatment from a menu. The girls all have Japanese nicknames, and they are extremely courteous and well trained. – using a Japanese place is a good thing in this regard.
*** My girl: Cannot tell her name and number, she gave me her phone number afterwards which is against the rules.
*** Cost: 1.600 or so baht for 2 hours of treatment, including the HJ
*** Ist it worth it? Yes, I never felt so clean and relaxed.
*** Where: Again Sukhumvit Soi 22, one of the first lanes on the left. When going down on Sukhumvit Soi 22 you will come to the Regency Park Hotel. If you stand in front of the hotel and look across the street you will see a small alley. Go across the street and walk through this small lane. A bit more down the lane and after passing a few Thai traditional massage places on the right you will see a Korean BBQ restaurant. Right behind this restaurant is Sazanka Massage.
*** Website: N/A
AKANE Fashion Massage
***What is special: Japanese treatment – full body massage, a muscular deep tissue massage and, ahem, anal rimming by one girl wile another one gives you a BJ.
*** Is it really special? It’s certainly novel – for everything else YMMV.
*** Patrons: Many Japanese, and quite a lot Caucasians.
*** Girls: When you enter, you chose your girl from the bench; when you leave, you get a discount card (one free session for ten cards) with the girls (nick) name and a telephone number. You also chose your treatment from a menu. The girls again all have Japanese nicknames, they are friendly courteous and well trained.
*** My girl: Cannot tell her name and number, she gave me her phone number afterwards which is against the rules. I do have quite a lot of phone numbers after this trip…
*** Cost: 1.600 or so baht for 2 hours of treatment, including the AR and BJ.
*** Is it worth it? Just for the novelty- yes.
*** Where: Chitlom, just a lane off the Holiday Inn and the BTS and Soi 33.
*** More information: Akane’s website is here http://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.html
Retired Army
12-10-06, 08:12
-Best find this weekend. boys where going to go to Darlings as posted in previously, but our tuk-tuk driver said the place is so run down and took us to Plaza Entertainment Complex to Cupid massage, same cost as Darlings but promised us good looking girls he wasn't wrong. He even came in and said if we didn't like he would take us someplace else no charge. We got there on Sunday Night at 8:00pm after dinner when you enter on the left hand side their are women sitting on sofas and to the right there are women in the fishbowl. Women in the fishbowl cost 2500 baht for 2 hours while the women on the couches to the left when you enter are 3,000 for 2 hours. The ones on the left are stunning! we had our beers, no rush to choose your women.
This is exactly the wrong thing to do. Why do you think the Tuk-tuk driver offered to take you for free; because he is a great guy? He took you to a place where he got a higher commission and they added it on to your bill.
Retired Army
12-10-06, 08:16
Just returned from a weekend playing in a softball tournament and golfing with the boys and can say everyone had a great time! ...
...Overall a great trip and looking forward to the next visit to Bangkok!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Why would we recommend this report which doesn't tell us anything new and shows complete ignorance about mongering in LOS?
Plaza is a Standard place where these guys offer to take you!. All cabbies and tuk tuks - has to be commission!
Just returned from a weekend playing in a softball tournament and golfing with the boys and can say everyone had a great time! The team comes once a year at this time, and are starting to know there way around. We stayed at the Grande Majestic right next to Nana Plaza, great hotel, great service w Highlights:
-Nana: All of the rainbows are pretty active but if you get there too early not much selection best to arrive around 9:30pm. Rainbow 4 top floor has the most girls and a good selection this past weekend. going rate: 600 bar fine 1,500 short time 2,500 over night seemed pretty standard
-Soi Cowboy: was the headquarters for the softball tournament so there was alot of action around there this past weekend.
-Not into Nana, try Novotel Hotel disco, alot of local talent who are into any foreigners, reminder dress code in effect if you where sandals you have to purchase socks or they won't let you in!!!! (they sell socks after you pay entrance fee, cheaper to buy a bottle and share amongst you guys instead of buying individual drinks which really adds up.
-Soi 33 was really dead and has seen better days! however great Thai restaurant Oam Thong Thi Restaurant, a little pricey but great food!
-Massages are great! our conceirge sent us to a place on soi 11 . two hour thai massage for only 600 baht! oil massage 700 baht, all happy finish if you want but after thai massage there never is a happy ending as you are in a lot of pain!!!
-Best find this weekend. boys where going to go to Darlings as posted in previously, but our tuk-tuk driver said the place is so run down and took us to Plaza Entertainment Complex to Cupid massage, same cost as Darlings but promised us good looking girls he wasn't wrong. He even came in and said if we didn't like he would take us someplace else no charge. We got there on Sunday Night at 8:00pm after dinner when you enter on the left hand side their are women sitting on sofas and to the right there are women in the fishbowl. Women in the fishbowl cost 2500 baht for 2 hours while the women on the couches to the left when you enter are 3,000 for 2 hours. The ones on the left are stunning! we had our beers, no rush to choose your women.
(let me tell you there was over 150 women to choose from we couldnt believe our eyes when we entered the place. The guy even said there are more on Friday and Saturday evening. Unbelievable!
You choose you women, they take you up to a room, which seem relatively new compared to Darlings which after we saw this place Darlings really is a dump! The women starts you off with a bath and fully washes every inch of your body, receive BBJ in the tub,then onto the mat (which I have never had before, but is great) she lathers up the mat (air mattress) with some soapy substance and proceeds to slide up and down your body on your back then on your front, proceeded to give hand job till finished! She then washes all the soapy stuff off you then onto the circular bed with the mirror on the ceiling. proceeds to give CBJ then CFS in every position you can imagine. Once finished proceed to shower you again then back to the bed for a massage, If you can do it you can cum three times in two hours! I had number 441 was 24 years old with a fantastic body and great personality, didn't rush and we stopped only because there was a knock at the door to tell her that our time was up, stayed in there another 15 minutes or so before finally leaving. tipped 500 baht and they ask for 50 baht for the lady who cleans up the room!
Definitely will be back to this place again!
Overall a great trip and looking forward to the next visit to Bangkok!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
EDITOR'S NOTE II: Due to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. Nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so I have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.
Old Thai Hand
12-10-06, 13:52
EDITOR'S NOTE IIDue to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. Nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so I have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.
I'd like to know why you think this is a valuable report? Because the guy's a newbie jerk who got taken? I suppose it could be seen as a warning to other newbies not to be stupid. But, ROD? I don't think so. It's rehashed stuff, posted a million times before and not even of much value as basic info.
Retired Army
12-10-06, 14:08
I'd like to know why you think this is a valuable report? Because the guy's a newbie jerk who got taken? I suppose it could be seen as a warning to other newbies not to be stupid. But, ROD? I don't think so. It's rehashed stuff, posted a million times before and not even of much value as basic info.
Lets create a name, like BBKStud69, make up a bunch of worthless misleading shit, submit a long report and see if it gets recommended for Reports of Distinction.
Man About Asia
12-10-06, 14:59
I am just wrapping-up an 8 day Bangkok trip staying in Livingston's Lodge. Now its time to share my first forum report which will be short.
1. Background: I am a white American in my early 40s who has lived half my life in Asia, mostly in Chinese speaking countries so I am fluent in Mandarin. I have been to Thailand many times over the years on relatively short trips. I tend to be attracted to the innocent looking/acting girls who seem sincere and honest. I don't like short girls and prefer the lighter skinned Chinese look to the darker skinned Khmers.
2. Giottos Lodge: I can see the difference that good western magagement makes. The place has great ambience, is clean and friendly, things work, the food is good, the rooms (my room at least) have real wood floors, etc. At around 2,000 Baht a night net for a superior, it is on the expensive side for that size of room, but I suppose you need to pay a management premium in Thailand if you want to be assured of no hassles or nasty surprises.
3. Bar Scene: So much has been said on this forum about Nana, Soi Cowboy, Soi 33, Patpong, etc. that I don't want to bore anyone with another newbie report on this stuff even though I did make the rounds. Anyway, I really didn't do much other than people watching anyway since personally, I find almost all of the working girls you see in these areas to be anywhere from plain to hideous. They tend to be short, dark, and rough looking. I did see a couple of hotties in Bamboo Bar across from the Grace but of course they were locked-up with possessive looking sugar dadies. And I also saw some very attractive girls in Patpong. But guess what? They managed stands in the night market and had Thai guys working with them too, probably boyfriends or husbands.
4. Khaosan Rd.: I also spend a couple of days and nights here and picked-up three phone numbers from Chinese tourist girls. What you tend to see are classy Thai girls who frequent their own places (discos), and sluts + discount *****s who hang-out in the back-packer joints. Of course the hot ones tend to be with the Thai group but there are a lot more exceptions, people who straddle both worlds, etc. You also stand some chance of snagging a drunk tourist chick if you spend enough nights out there.
Anyway, I got fairly drunk one night in Sawasdee House next to Bangkok Bar after hours (this scene goes on past 5 am) and approached a couple of very cute student types on the first floor who I had been eyeing from the pool/dance area above. So they were very friendly, spoke excellent English, and treated me with a lot of attention. So I thought they were probably some version of bar girl. However, they spoke English like students and did not smoke or drink alchohol. They did love to dance though and one of them was seriously into hip-hop and could recite lyrics non-stop. Apparently, one was kinda bumbed-out over a 27 year-old farang up in Chiang Mai who runs some sort of foundation and is extremely popular with the girls up there. I spent a couple hours connecting with them which was easy cus they really did speak great English and could talk about a lot of things. It turns-out that they are both 21 year-old students at some university or college (they told me the name but I forgot) which according to them is not one of the better ones.
By this time, it was about 5:30 so I suggested that since they live so far (near the old airport) they come sleep with me. They finally agreed (the depressed one was somewhat resistant). Well, after getting-them back, we all played innocent going to bed to sleep and all. And I was really a wimp cus I didn't dare do anything naughty for a long time even though I secured the space in the middle. In time though, the other one and I would strategically adjust positions as we slept so a lot of touching happened. And finally, when the lovestruck one went to the bathroom, I made my move on the other. A lot of good thing happened then but we only got about 5 minutes which was not enough. We weren't able to 'complete what we had started' until late in the afternoon when the friend went out to buy some food. By early that evening, I had to leave to see another friend so I bid them good-bye and hoped out loud we could meet again soon. I would have been happy to offer them money but frankly, I didn't dare. I just wasn't getting that type of vibe.
5. MBK: I spotted a very cute and full-figured light skinned hottie in a school uniform, followed her and her friend for awhile. I'm almost sure her friend caught me at this so I knew I would probably get shot-down when I finally made my approach. Sure enough, that's what happened. The friend never even gave her a chance to reject me herself. All I was able to find-out about them was that they are Bangkok University students. I have had some luck at this game before though. I find the best thing to do when you break the ice is smile, keep some distance, and don't take rejection personally. Just like selling insurance, you just need to knock on enough doors. But since I always stick to girls am strongly attracted, just spotting them in the crowd is a challenge which takes lots of leg-work, people watching, and patience.
OK, thats it for now.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
...2. Giottos Lodge: I can see the difference that good western magagement makes. The place has great ambience, is clean and friendly, things work, the food is good, the rooms (my room at least) have real wood floors, etc. At around 2,000 Baht a night net for a superior, it is on the expensive side for that size of room, but I suppose you need to pay a management premium in Thailand if you want to be assured of no hassles or nasty surprises.Man About Asia,
Thanks...
Things work? I am not so sure about that... :)
Giotto
Man About Asia,
Thanks...
Things work? I am not so sure about that... :)
Giotto
Quite the compliment Giotto.
I would add that when I was unable to secure an acceptable booking, I was asked about why via email. This speaks volumes about the desire to improve your product. Impressive.
I will try to drop by tomorrow and say hello.
Just returned from a weekend playing in a softball tournament and golfing with the boys and can say everyone had a great time! The team comes once a year at this time, and are starting to know there way around. We stayed at the Grande Majestic right next to Nana Plaza, great hotel, great service w Highlights:
-Nana: All of the rainbows are pretty active but if you get there too early not much selection best to arrive around 9:30pm. Rainbow 4 top floor has the most girls and a good selection this past weekend. going rate: 600 bar fine 1,500 short time 2,500 over night seemed pretty standard
-Soi Cowboy: was the headquarters for the softball tournament so there was alot of action around there this past weekend.
-Not into Nana, try Novotel Hotel disco, alot of local talent who are into any foreigners, reminder dress code in effect if you where sandals you have to purchase socks or they won't let you in!!!! (they sell socks after you pay entrance fee, cheaper to buy a bottle and share amongst you guys instead of buying individual drinks which really adds up.
-Soi 33 was really dead and has seen better days! however great Thai restaurant Oam Thong Thi Restaurant, a little pricey but great food!
-Massages are great! our conceirge sent us to a place on soi 11 . two hour thai massage for only 600 baht! oil massage 700 baht, all happy finish if you want but after thai massage there never is a happy ending as you are in a lot of pain!!!
-Best find this weekend. boys where going to go to Darlings as posted in previously, but our tuk-tuk driver said the place is so run down and took us to Plaza Entertainment Complex to Cupid massage, same cost as Darlings but promised us good looking girls he wasn't wrong. He even came in and said if we didn't like he would take us someplace else no charge. We got there on Sunday Night at 8:00pm after dinner when you enter on the left hand side their are women sitting on sofas and to the right there are women in the fishbowl. Women in the fishbowl cost 2500 baht for 2 hours while the women on the couches to the left when you enter are 3,000 for 2 hours. The ones on the left are stunning! we had our beers, no rush to choose your women.
(let me tell you there was over 150 women to choose from we couldnt believe our eyes when we entered the place. The guy even said there are more on Friday and Saturday evening. Unbelievable!
You choose you women, they take you up to a room, which seem relatively new compared to Darlings which after we saw this place Darlings really is a dump! The women starts you off with a bath and fully washes every inch of your body, receive BBJ in the tub,then onto the mat (which I have never had before, but is great) she lathers up the mat (air mattress) with some soapy substance and proceeds to slide up and down your body on your back then on your front, proceeded to give hand job till finished! She then washes all the soapy stuff off you then onto the circular bed with the mirror on the ceiling. proceeds to give CBJ then CFS in every position you can imagine. Once finished proceed to shower you again then back to the bed for a massage, If you can do it you can cum three times in two hours! I had number 441 was 24 years old with a fantastic body and great personality, didn't rush and we stopped only because there was a knock at the door to tell her that our time was up, stayed in there another 15 minutes or so before finally leaving. tipped 500 baht and they ask for 50 baht for the lady who cleans up the room!
Definitely will be back to this place again!
Overall a great trip and looking forward to the next visit to Bangkok!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
EDITOR'S NOTE II: Due to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. Nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so I have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.
AsiaTraveler2
12-11-06, 02:38
Just returned from a weekend playing in a softball tournament and golfing with the boys and can say everyone had a great time! The team comes once a year at this time, and are starting to know there way around. We stayed at the Grande Majestic right next to Nana Plaza, great hotel, great service w Highlights:
-Best find this weekend. boys where going to go to Darlings as posted in previously, but our tuk-tuk driver said the place is so run down and took us to Plaza Entertainment Complex to Cupid massage, same cost as Darlings but promised us good looking girls he wasn't wrong. He even came in and said if we didn't like he would take us someplace else no charge. We got there on Sunday Night at 8:00pm after dinner when you enter on the left hand side their are women sitting on sofas and to the right there are women in the fishbowl. Women in the fishbowl cost 2500 baht for 2 hours while the women on the couches to the left when you enter are 3,000 for 2 hours. The ones on the left are stunning! we had our beers, no rush to choose your women.
(let me tell you there was over 150 women to choose from we couldnt believe our eyes when we entered the place. The guy even said there are more on Friday and Saturday evening. Unbelievable!
Definitely will be back to this place again!
Overall a great trip and looking forward to the next visit to Bangkok!
Young Cow,
Welcome to the BKK thread. Don't let the negative posts deter you from posting again. There are many members who appreciate posts from new members. Your post on Cupidy massage was interesting in that it got me thinking. It's considered the classic rip off joint in BKK, since the taxi drivers get a large commission, which is basically paid by you. Having said that, I will bet there are many members who have never gone there because of this "warning". I know I have not.
I know it costs more due to the commission, but if I do post any further remarks about the place, it will simply be a warning of the commission. Since I have not actually experienced the girls or service there, my calling the place a rip off joint may be out of line. I also suspect that many of the members have been following this warning so long, that they have no recent first hand experience with this fish bowl establishment.
The bottom line is that you may have spent more than you would elsewhere, but if you had a great time, who cares! Just keep having fun, since that's what it's all about. Respect the girls and the culture and enjoy what the city has to offer.
By the way, I know a fellow board member on the Tokyo board, who made the move to Japan. He's had a great life, so good luck to you. I was lucky enough to meet up with him in Tokyo and he's a great guy. I don't want to post his handle, since he already has his hands full helping others.
I thought the "newbie jerk" line from a previous post was out of line, since the poster does not know the first thing about you. I suspect some of that was from the irritation of how the "Reports of distinction" award is being handed out. I'm really puzzled by that, since it means there's some resentment out there. Is the ROD award that important to you guys? I post for the mutual exchange of information. My perspective is who cares who gets the ROD?
Keep the posts coming (Both on the BKK and Tokyo boards).
Peace,
AT2
Old Thai Hand
12-11-06, 03:31
Man About Asia
very nice first report. It does deserve ROD more so than most.
Just one note about you being shot down by Bangkok U. girls...while a lot of uni girls might be interested in Farang, not least because of the novelty factor, Bangkok U. girls are exposed to a lot of young, good-looking, Farang on campus as there is a sizeable international student body at BU. It is also the #1 private university here, expensive and therefore attracts fairly well-off students who aren't so prone to being picked up, as the students on Khao San who are from lower quality universities. If BU girls are to be picked up at all, it is at places like Q-Bar, Bed Supper, the bars on Thong-Lor or Ekkamai or possibly at the Thai discos on Rachada sois 4-8.
...
I will try to drop by tomorrow and say hello.Sporadic,
Try today - I fly to Singapore tomorrow, back on Friday.
Giotto
Young Cow,
Welcome to the BKK thread. Don't let the negative posts deter you from posting again. There are many members who appreciate posts from new members. Your post on Cupidy massage was interesting in that it got me thinking. It's considered the classic rip off joint in BKK, since the taxi drivers get a large commission, which is basically paid by you. Having said that, I will bet there are many members who have never gone there because of this "warning". I know I have not.
...AsiaTraveler2,
I agree with you.
We should appreciate all members which start posting reports here, even if sometimes information is repeated or tourist traps are visited - there is always the specific and ACTUAL view of that new member which adds value to this forum.
Cupidy as a tourist trap: OK, you pay a surcharge for the taxi driver who brings you there, but if the experience overall was OK, and the girls performed - who really cares? There are for sure some good performers in Cupidy, as well as in all other massage places.
Young Cow,
Thanks for your first report, and welcome to the forum. Go ahead posting about your experiences, please.
Giotto
I always taxi to the Prince Hotel and walk across the parking lot to Cupidity to avoid paying the taxi commission.
Overall Cupidity should not be crossed off your list. When I visited a few months ago in the early evening, I was stunned at the large number of sideline and body massage girls. It reminded me of the old days when every big body massage place had 100 girls to choose from. For the past few years I have been upset at the small number of body massage girls to choose from in the long established places. I think Cupidity has gotten a bad rap on this board.
Fast Eddie 48
12-11-06, 07:48
I always taxi to the Prince Hotel and walk across the parking lot to Cupidity to avoid paying the taxi commission.
Overall Cupidity should not be crossed off your list. When I visited a few months ago in the early evening, I was stunned at the large number of sideline and body massage girls. It reminded me of the old days when every big body massage place had 100 girls to choose from. For the past few years I have been upset at the small number of body massage girls to choose from in the long established places. I think Cupidity has gotten a bad rap on this board.
to all over
Cupidity will try to rip you off anyway even you arrive alone , they will start asking for 3500 bht for sideliner if you walk they will drop to 2500bht ,I just go next door and tell them nice try.
fast eddie 48
SexWithSmile
12-11-06, 08:29
Greetings,
Following a few good experiences here (including a good threesome at the Tulip massage - see report in Bangkok Massage Forum), I am looking to buy some funny toys and see how TG's react to those (I have already investigated, and a few seem positive for a try). So any idea where I can buy vibrator/diddlo's, any sex shop around? I've done my internet research RTFF, without result. Are those used by Eden, or some time ago by Carnaval, all imported illegally?
Thanks in advance.
Retired Army
12-11-06, 08:36
Young Cow,
I thought the "newbie jerk" line from a previous post was out of line, since the poster does not know the first thing about you. I suspect some of that was from the irritation of how the "Reports of distinction" award is being handed out. I'm really puzzled by that, since it means there's some resentment out there. Is the ROD award that important to you guys? I post for the mutual exchange of information. My perspective is who cares who gets the ROD?
AT2
I think it was in frustration at having to read the same-old-shit over and over again, i.e., I came to Bangkok, wow they have girls there; went to Nana where I met the most beautiful girl I have ever seen, name was Nit, Noi, etc. We went back to my hotel and had sex, I came 3 times, then I gave her a $1,000 and got her phone number. Tuk-tuk/Taxi driver took me to a massage parlour where I paid 10,000 for a soapie from some girl with a number on her chest from behind the glass. I came 3 times, gave her a 5,000 baht tip and the cleaning lady 1,000. Best experience of my otherwise miserable life where I have to go to some Asian country to get laid.
ROD doesn't mean a damn thing when newbies with absolutey no experience in LOS are recommended for posting crap like that above. Shit, I should expand what I have written to about 10,000 words and create a newbie name with no posts and see if it gets recommended for ROD.
AsiaTraveler2
12-11-06, 11:10
I always taxi to the Prince Hotel and walk across the parking lot to Cupidity to avoid paying the taxi commission.
Overall Cupidity should not be crossed off your list. When I visited a few months ago in the early evening, I was stunned at the large number of sideline and body massage girls. It reminded me of the old days when every big body massage place had 100 girls to choose from. For the past few years I have been upset at the small number of body massage girls to choose from in the long established places. I think Cupidy has gotten a bad rap on this board.
Allover,
Thanks for the follow up info. I agree with you, that it's rare to see 100+ girls to choose from these days. In fact, I have not seen that in years. Even the largest soapies only have 20-30 in the fish bowls these days. They may have 100+ working there, but the girls disappear as soon as they arrive. 500 baht extra is such a small premium to pay, if you have that number of choices. I am sure someone will slam me for even thinking such a thing. As the previous poster mentioned, you can always bargain. I may give Cupidy a look on my next visit.
There's a lemming mentality that develops when everyone starts following recommendations from those who are supposedly the experts. Often, the views are based on experiences that are 5 to 20 years old. Worse, sometimes it's based on 2nd hand info. It's good to get some new blood on the boards.
Thanks,
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
12-11-06, 11:22
Anyway, I got fairly drunk one night in Sawasdee House next to Bangkok Bar after hours (this scene goes on past 5 am) and approached a couple of very cute student types on the first floor who I had been eyeing from the pool/dance area above.
I almost forgot about that bar. Does not get much mention, but it's got it's merits.
Thanks,
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
12-11-06, 11:44
I think it was in frustration at having to read the same-old-shit over and over again ... Best experience of my otherwise miserable life where I have to go to some Asian country to get laid.
ROD doesn't mean a damn thing when newbies with absolutey no experience in LOS are recommended for posting crap like that above. Shit, I should expand what I have written to about 10,000 words and create a newbie name with no posts and see if it gets recommended for ROD.
RA,
You have the right to your opinion. My take is a little different. The common image of the posters on this thread, is a 40-50 year old overweight Western guy, that would never get laid in his own country and comes to BKK for that sole purpose. I have met a few of the posters and none of them fit that stereotype. Most are well to do, have great lives and enjoy traveling and the benefits that some along with that. They get laid often enough in their own home towns. BKK just provides a different experience. They have a wealth of knowledge of other cities and are very cool people.
Yes, ROD does not mean much. It's just the opinion of one man or it could possibly even be automated. Who takes it seriously? If it encourages new blood, then it serves it's purpose. You also have the option of nominating posts that you see fit, so I don't get what the problem is. What gets old is the same 3-4 guys posting all the time. I enjoy seeing the "wide eyed" first time posts from newbies. I have a hard time understanding those that try to snuff out their enthusiasm. Each post contributes something to the mix, even if it's just the same info with a different flavor.
You have a lot of knowledge of the local turf. What some of the locals and veterans forget, is that places like Nana or Cupidy or any other "tourist trap" can provide great experiences. No one place has an exclusive on gems. If you view each place on it's own merits and keep your eyes open, you can have a great time almost anywhere. The first timers often have the most interesting posts, because the views are not jaded or condescending.
Just my two cents.
AT2
Retired Army
12-11-06, 13:33
Greetings,
Following a few good experiences here (including a good threesome at the Tulip massage - see report in Bangkok Massage Forum), I am looking to buy some funny toys and see how TG's react to those (I have already investigated, and a few seem positive for a try). So any idea where I can buy vibrator/diddlo's, any sex shop around? I've done my internet research RTFF, without result. Are those used by Eden, or some time ago by Carnaval, all imported illegally?
Thanks in advance.
There are no "sex shops" in Bangkok. You can find some sex toys if you know where to look. But, not sex shops like you find in Europe or the U.S.
If you want toys, it's best to bring your own from home.
Ralph Kramden
12-11-06, 14:23
I agree with Allover that Cupidy has a bad reputation on this board, but that it is not all that bad. Their selection can be stunning at times, about on par with CPII. Just let the pimp or mama know that you are aware of the price structure and avoid arriving at their front door in a taxi if you want to save 500 bht, and you will be OK. You can always leave and walk up the hillock to Plaza Entertainment. I have been well serviced at Cupidy on several occassions, but have never used Plaza, even though I have looked it over as many times. I plan to visit Cupidy later this month. It doesn't hurt to look.
Regardless of your opinion of Cupidity, this board provides gives you a good idea of what to expect if you visit there and how to lower the cost. I appreciate everyone's input.
My next question is about the a place with a large selection. Are there any MPs that truly have a large selection out there? I'm talking about 100 girls at a time like in the good old days.
Ralph Kramden
12-12-06, 15:55
I also agree with Asian Traveler 2 that many places often offer a disappointing selection of 20 to 30 girls at most. The exceptions may be Chaophya II and Cupidy. I have never been to Poseiden, which may have a large selection in all of its floor of venues. Other than that, I would be interested in other information too.
Traveler1234
12-12-06, 16:24
My next question is about the a place with a large selection. Are there any MPs that truly have a large selection out there? I'm talking about 100 girls at a time like in the good old days.
Unfortunately I think the days of 100+ are long past....I visit a couple of MP each visit and the cast of providers diminishing....
Phantomtiger2
12-12-06, 19:46
I also agree with Asian Traveler 2 that many places often offer a disappointing selection of 20 to 30 girls at most. The exceptions may be Chaophya II and Cupidy. I have never been to Poseiden, which may have a large selection in all of its floor of venues. Other than that, I would be interested in other information too.
Bit of a surprise that you never been to Poseidon MP. Many have report ups and downs with this place but by the sheer number of gals working here, most often I'd find a stunner to my liking on the times I visited. Prices are a bit on the high side depending on which gal you take but sometimes worth the extra dollars. Perhaps you need to pay it a visit and find out for yourself.
PT
Phantomtiger2
12-12-06, 19:52
My next question is about the a place with a large selection. Are there any MPs that truly have a large selection out there? I'm talking about 100 girls at a time like in the good old days.
Although Poisedon MP may not have the 100+ gal par level, on the occassions I visited they easily have over 60 gals total on several floors. Assuming some had been taken and out of view in their rooms, thats still a hugh number of choices for just a single guy.
PT
Ralph Kramden
12-13-06, 14:45
PhantomTiger2
I am surprised myself and plan to correct the situation in a few days. I promise a field report on my carnal activities.
hei all.. i found a usefull google earth map for bkk in witch you can scroll in and out of and it has all the hotels, area's and clubs and ect.. hope its usefull for some of ya..
http://www.bangkokrecorder.com/google-map/bangkok-map.html
Steve Steve
12-14-06, 06:27
Thinking of paying a visit to Bangkok or China in March. If any of you have spent time in South China or Shanghai, I'd be interested in how you'd compare these areas to Bangkok in terms of the quality, service, and price of the women. Also, is there a huge difference in how easy it is to hook up with the women in Bangkok compared to China?
Thanks
M P Lurker
12-14-06, 08:10
Thinking of paying a visit to Bangkok or China in March. If any of you have spent time in South China or Shanghai, I'd be interested in how you'd compare these areas to Bangkok in terms of the quality, service, and price of the women. Also, is there a huge difference in how easy it is to hook up with the women in Bangkok compared to China?
Thanks
I am not very experienced in China, but I was in Guangzhou 2 years ago.
In bars frequented by westerners, it seems that it is easier to pick up chinese women for free, but perhaps more so for those who live there. There seems to be some prestige associated with a chinese girl having a western boyfriend.
When exiting my hotel (4 or 5 star but not expesive) I was swamped by girls wanting to take me for a 'massage' (Prostitution is illegal but going strong).
Price would be very cheap, but quality of the girls on the street not good.
So quality was a lot lower in my personal preference, price lower, and service I don't know as I didn't go with any of those women, but I assume service would be similar to Thai girls.
Chinese girls are generally not that pretty to my taste (with exceptions) but Thai men seem to go for white plump round faced chinese girls. At Guangzhou's Luhu golf club I happened to meet the very tall Miss China winner. To my taste she looked like an average Lady Boy, certainly not stunning.
M P Lurker
12-14-06, 12:34
I also agree with Asian Traveler 2 that many places often offer a disappointing selection of 20 to 30 girls at most. The exceptions may be Chaophya II and Cupidy. I have never been to Poseiden, which may have a large selection in all of its floor of venues. Other than that, I would be interested in other information too.
Chaopraya II numbers have dwindled (used to have 100 girls). Only a few in the Body Slide massage category. Poseidon doesn't have body slide as far as I know. Cupidy does and Chaopraya I has more body slide than Chaopraya II but getting the right non-rip-off price is tricky at Chaopraya I.
Mona Lisa has body slide but only 20-30 girls last time I visited ( a while ago).
Looking for 100 girls is not really the point, IMHO.
Look for a place where they have lookers with great bodies.
Others prefer to rate the girls by service and personality. But that is always a gamble of course.
Tarawadee has some great lookers but no body slide and is more expensive than most places.
M P Lurker
12-14-06, 13:06
Decided to try Shark bar last night and compare to other top bars in Soi Cowboy.
All my personal opinion but I try to allow for tastes of others a little.
A lot of girls at Shark, all looked rather young and had good slim bodies (no fatties) but not much in the large breast category (no matter - I'm not a tit-man). Mostly A cup and the odd B cup.
I called over Joy (from Udon?) for a drink, who was slim (v small tits) but had a pretty face and fab smile. Was clearly the best disco style dancer but modified to be a bit sexy also. Turns out she is very new to gogo dancing.
Also called over Te (sounds very short as in 'step' with the s and p removed) from Khon Kaen who had a nice bottom and was a superior gogo dancer but smallish tits again.
All the girls wore black see-though underwear, but not dancing nude. No Ladyboys although one very tall girl could be looked on with suspicion. No shows just plain gogo-dancing.
Took both girls away and turned out Joy had a soft puffy shaven pussy and was a go-er in bed. Certainly knew how to move well. Marks showed she had a baby already so pussy was tight but not too tight.
Te, having seen Joy's performance, commented that she was not that experienced at sex ('didn't know how to do it' were her words). Got her to remove the foam sponge from inside and then she was quite loose, but O.K. for me. Turned out best to have her from behind as she didn't know how to relax her legs properly (scared of my dick?), and her bottom was nice to look at.
Would recommend Joy but forget her number. See now if you take two girls, the chances that one is a great fuck are increased, no?
Compared to some other bars:
Suzie Wong has great sex charged erotic shows with shaved pussy after 10PM, but overall on average Shark girls are better looking.
Long Gun has ugly PhatPong style shows after 11.30PM but new far better shows earlier like 9.30PM to 11.30PM with the odd real stunner, and nude dancing but no shaved pussy (or maybe one). Overall Shark girls are possibly prettier than Long Gun average girl but Long Gun has a few beautiful girls that far out class Shark girls.
Deja Vu has nude dancing, no shows, but not many girls are really pretty. Watch out! Deja Vu has 2 or 3 Lady Boys. Some wild girls here. Not many great bodies, for example little wild Li (short for Mali) doesn't have a great body (lacking curves) but gets 10 for smile, 10 for sex and blowjob, and 8 for kissing, and 10+ for enthusiasm.
Baccarat has young looking school girls with no knickers on. A novelty that wears off very quickly.
Shark is the bar with the most consistent standard of slim girl good looks that I have visited in Soi Cowboy but lacking in the shows and in the stunning girls department.
M P Lurker
12-14-06, 13:52
Decided to try out Eden, at least just once. Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 (with the Subway sandwich and coffe shop at mouth of the Soi). Eden is located on the right side and has a big Eden Club sign so can't miss it.
Arrived at about 3PM although opens 1PM I believe.
No customers in evidence, so had the full range of girls to choose from.
One said I was the first customer and that Eden was a little quiet the last few days.
As was first time I got shown the menu. 1800 Baht per girl and choose any two girls. No stunning girls at all, as would expect in such a wicked bar.
At first I was thinking of leaving, seeing that the girls were rather plain.
However in the end spotted Luck (or Lucky) who had very high tits (which turned out to be real), from Buri-ram. and a nice smile. I asked her if she liked the pale girl in pink because was scared to let her make her own choice and pick an ugly one. Luck agreed that she liked Nick (or Nicky), from Udon, very much. Went upstairs in the lift and had and assisted scrub by Luck with a lot of attention to arsehole (even though I had thoroughly showered before leaving the Hotel anyway).Both girls were slim but with very nice tits barely B-cup I guess, and cute little bottoms.
So then sex with both girls with the full range of kissing, licking, blowing, finger deaply exploring pussies, and nearly fogot, fucking as well of course.
Both girls seemed a little scripted at first, but loosened up as things got going. Going down on Luck with my tongue, she orgasmed in 5-10 minutes and was clearly into it. Licking out Nick, she was slower, but eventually came like a river and bucking wildly. She claimed it was the first Oral orgasm of her life, unlike Luck who was a very quick one to orgasm easily.
Was great sensation to fuck one girl while another plays with your balls and I play with her pussy. Alternatively get a great blow-job from one while the other licks your hole. Nick and I both congratulated each other on very superior blow-jobs. I hade to stop Nick's blow-job after not long for fear I would blow too soon (normally I take too long).
After a cleanup and a little rest period, round 2. Luck fucked Nick with a strap-on, and great blow-jobs to get me up again.
When time expired I was still screwing Luck from behind. I don't think these girls have much problem in getting guys up. However 2nd time round I am always very slow to orgasm, so had to concentrate very hard to make it quickly once the door knock came.
Got on very well with both girls and enjoyed my fantasy of two tongues in my mouth and fingers in two pussies at same time.
So all 3 of us had a great time.
Nothing really wild happened as I'm rather straight in my tastes and even asked for no arsehole probing.
Getting down stairs, there were now quite a few customers hanging at the bar and trying to decide which girl to choose.
Total bill: 3670 Baht (including 1 drink at 70 Baht). Not too bad for two girls and 2 pops for me (girls had about 3 pops each).
BTW Both girls were from the right hand side so no anal was intended. The left side had perhaps only one reasonably good looking girl to my taste.
Apparently Eden has a selection of Issarn, Northern, and Southern girls with possibly not many from Bangkok. Northern girls with big jaws (not all of them) are generally the least appealing to my personal taste, but some guys like the whiter skin for some reason. I like slim but curvy girls with faces on the narrow side and cute little noses (unlike my own large proboscis).
So Eden may not be high in class but can be very high in fun and wickedness if you click with the girls, and I did today.
Mick Licker,
I was in Shark Bar end of Nov but got so distracted by 3 meet and greet girls, I cannot honestly remember what any of the dancers looked like.
The girl I bf(Kang) took me back to my hotel, fucked my brains out and left me wondering who pick who up. I will be back end of January and if I can get past this girl and her two mates, I will have a closer look at the girls on stage.
I also agree with you on Suzy Wong as I pop in before going to Shark Bar. One of the showgirls caught my eye(curly hair) but she seemed so into herself and I doubt she noticed anyone.
WickedWilly
12-14-06, 14:01
[QUOTE=Steve Steve]Thinking of paying a visit to Bangkok or China in March. If any of you have spent time in South China or Shanghai, I'd be interested in how you'd compare these areas to Bangkok in terms of the quality, service, and price of the women. Also, is there a huge difference in how easy it is to hook up with the women in Bangkok compared to China?
1. China is a lot more difficult than Bangkok, virtually no one speaks English, and the places are not so easy to find or well Publicised.
2. Price is not too bad, if you know the local charging structures.
3. If you are more than a little well-endowed they in general hate-it and you may find get any decent sex, again unless you know the language.
4. If you do not like hairy pussies, China may not be good for you.
Saying this, there are a lot of very good looking girls in China, most places have more stunners in one place than in Bangkok.
I would say unless you are very adventourous or speak or can go with someone that speaks Chinese and the right dialect, then pass on China if you are having to make a choice between Bangkok and China.
M P Lurker
12-14-06, 14:03
Mick Licker,
I was in Shark Bar end of Nov but got so distracted by 3 meet and greet girls, I cannot honestly remember what any of the dancers looked like.
The girl I bf(Kang) took me back to my hotel, fucked my brains out and left me wondering who pick who up. I will be back end of January and if I can get past this girl and her two mates, I will have a closer look at the girls on stage.
I also agree with you on Suzy Wong as I pop in before going to Shark Bar. One of the showgirls caught my eye(curly hair) but she seemed so into herself and I doubt she noticed anyone.
I also remember a very stunning girl (face and body) at Suzi Wong doing some shows but described as somewhat aloof by the mamasan. I never actually got to meet her as was swamped by two others at the time.
Ralph Kramden
12-14-06, 14:21
If you are a first timer to Asia then I would recommend Bangkok because it is much easier to score. However, March is a hot month, so if that bothers you, I would really consider it. Having been to Shanghai but never south China, I would skip both and go to Dalian, which is much more compact and easier to get around in than Shanghai. With a lot of Korean blood mixed in, the girls are among the most beautiful in China, and in all of Asia in my opinion. It is easier to get what you want in Dalian, but still not as easy as Bangkok. I have the desire to return to Dalian and Bangkok, but not Shanghai.
Decided to try out Eden, at least just once. Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 (with the Subway sandwich and coffe shop at mouth of the Soi). Eden is located on the right side and has a big Eden Club sign so can't miss it.
Arrived at about 3PM although opens 1PM I believe.
No customers in evidence, so had the full range of girls to choose from.
One said I was the first customer and that Eden was a little quiet the last few days.
As was first time I got shown the menu. 1800 Baht per girl and choose any two girls. No stunning girls at all, as would expect in such a wicked bar.The "stunners" at EDEN rarely appear in the line-up, they're usually booked months in advance by the many regular customers, mostly wealthy businessmen who frequently visit Bangkok. Most of the girls do a maximum of two customers a day and some have a few "special" customers they see on the side.
A friends sister who worked there for a year claimed that the top girls often got B80K to B100K a pair for week long trips to the islands.
I regulary drank in a street bar, I can't remember the street, but it was near cowboy, off the main road between the main cross roads, and the bowling ally. Anyway there where girls who sat at the bar, one was a 9, sat and drank with me, but I was unsure if was available, there was a boss, who at times stood near me, but made no comments, I'm not sure is any of the girls where available, what should one do in these situations?
Ralph Kramden:
Is it easy to get around and find girls in Dalian without speaking the local language? China is not the easiest country to get around for an English only speaker. I'm going to research Dalian at your suggestion.
It's very easy to spend time in Thailand without speaking Thai.
Badboy9613
12-15-06, 04:53
hei all.. i found a usefull google earth map for bkk in witch you can scroll in and out of and it has all the hotels, area's and clubs and ect.. hope its usefull for some of ya..
http://www.bangkokrecorder.com/google-map/bangkok-map.htmlFWIW. I checked this out. Actually paid $4.99 to download the entire 60 min video. Other than goofy commentary it was actually pretty good. When I say good I mean informative for someone like me who has never been to BKK and is tripping there soon.
I would reccomend it to "new" visitors to BKK. Don't think that you guys who have experience ther would actually benefit from it.
Badboy9613
12-15-06, 10:11
FWIW. I checked this out. Actually paid $4.99 to download the entire 60 min video. Other than goofy commentary it was actually pretty good. When I say good I mean informative for someone like me who has never been to BKK and is tripping there soon.
I would reccomend it to "new" visitors to BKK. Don't think that you guys who have experience ther would actually benefit from it.Guys I am sorry. I just realized that I quoted the wrong report. I was actually referring to the video from Yahoo video that someone else had posted. Sorry.
M P Lurker
12-15-06, 14:53
I also agree with Asian Traveler 2 that many places often offer a disappointing selection of 20 to 30 girls at most. The exceptions may be Chaophya II and Cupidy. I have never been to Poseiden, which may have a large selection in all of its floor of venues. Other than that, I would be interested in other information too.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=541743&postcount=1908
Ralph Kramden
12-15-06, 17:36
Allover,
Undoubtably it is easier to use English to find sex-workers in Bangkok, but Chinese hookers are very sensible in knowing the universal language, which is: She has what you want--You have what she wants.
I had wonderful sex two times with a babe from the Dalian Hilton who spoke not a word of English, while my Mandarin is non-existant. To communicate you will need: paper, pencil and a hand-held calculator. My experiences are just the tip of the iceberg.
M P Lurker
12-15-06, 18:39
Allover,
Undoubtably it is easier to use English to find sex-workers in Bangkok, but Chinese hookers are very sensible in knowing the universal language, which is: She has what you want--You have what she wants.
I had wonderful sex two times with a babe from the Dalian Hilton who spoke not a word of English, while my Mandarin is non-existant. To communicate you will need: paper, pencil and a hand-held calculator. My experiences are just the tip of the iceberg.
Yeh language isn't such a barrier.
I know of couples where the girl spoke no english and the guy spoke no Thai when they met, but somehow later they got married and had kids and at some point the girl learned English. But I guess sex did all the talking initially.
I have had a great encounter with a black girl who only spoke Spanish and a few words of English, although I do understand some Spanish words of course. No paper, pencil, or calculator were needed, but I was assisted by meeting in a location where wanting sex would be taken for granted.
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