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Admin
01-01-05, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Rebad
01-01-06, 01:50
Whats with the barfines of 1000thb for Dec 30th - Jan 1st

Rebad
01-01-06, 01:57
Gentlemen please........

With all establishments and women, your experience will be different, and YMMV.

I had a wonderful session on Friday around 12:30pm. I picked a cute girl on the left and she picked a cute girl on the right. I dident see much of the girl on the right as she had her tongue and finger in my ass for most of the time.

The girl on the left was a great kisser very GFE and we went through 3-4 positions.

Saturday however sucked. The girls were very mechanical and not into eachother in the way you think they should be......they pick eachother so you figure the like to play together but not this time.

I did bust a nut so I did not feel like speaking to mark.

Rebad
01-01-06, 02:02
I almost left a session to complain to Mark but gritted it out and got my nut.

The girls just sucked.

I'm easy to please and have had great times at Eden in the past so the question is.

When do you speak with Mark and what happens to the girls.
I do care and dont want them in much trouble.

Coma Boy
01-01-06, 07:07
Adjarn,

What a cheap charlie you are !!!

Cheap Charlie you are, shame on you !!!Trav, what do you expect?

He's a teacher- the lowest form of expat.

Coma Boy
01-01-06, 07:52
And he advertises that all girls are checked regularly, their doc's report on file for others to see.Doc's reports can be picked up for as little as 100 Baht by any bar-girl who wants them.

One of my girls has a freaky American sponsor who only sends money each month once she has scanned and e-mailed her monthly test-results. I doubt he can read them anyway.

He did freak out the first time though (which was kind of funny) when the Hepatitis listing showed up as positive as the test looks for Hep antibodies.

Ralph Kramden
01-01-06, 14:24
I ran across a great English pub at Asok station(on the opposite side of the street from the highly visible Volvo and Ford dealerships), named the "Black Swan". The "landlord" is the amicable Mr. David Robertson from Northern England. They serve outstanding pub-grub, and are one of only three bars in Bangkok that serve "John Smith's Extra Smooth Bitter Ale" on tap. It was my first time to drink this exceptional beer, which makes the Thai beers seem pale and tasteless in comparison. I will definitely make this a regular stop on my return trips to Bangkok.

Also briefly visited the Paragon, a mind boggling experience. For those of you living in Bangkok, be sure to visit the Gourmet Market on the ground floor. It is almost certainly the size of one football field, and maybe two or three.

Retired Army
01-01-06, 14:37
Many pharmacies will have "V" and/or "C". If you're at NEP, the little hole-in-the-wall pharmacy next to Nana Hotel has, as does the larger one just around the corner to the left on Sukhumvit.

I don't buy often; IIRC, last time it was about 950baht for packet of "C" (4 pills?)Are you sure of this price? At the pharmacy at Chid Lom Station they are about THB 400 a pill. I know there are a a lot of counterfit drugs in Thailand.

I get the largest dose possible and have the pharmist cut the pills in half.

ThaiVisitor
01-01-06, 14:44
Adjarn,

you are obviously one of the worst things that can happen to these girls.

What a cheap charlie you are !!!
She gives you a BJ and let you fuck her ass twice and all you do is to give her only 1000 baht and still complain about her.

You call it a fair deal, but that was nothing but cheating her in a very big way. She did her part of the deal but you refused to do yours. If you are worried that a girl might pass out because she is drunk, then don't let her drink that much.

Cheap Charlie you are, shame on you !!!
I did have the same thoughts and was asking myself "you mean he got a BJ and fuck her twice in the ass, and all he paid was only Mark's cut? What about the girl?"

But I agree with him on the drug use though.

Cheers
Tee Vee

ThaiVisitor
01-01-06, 14:45
Thought this might be useful for you guys.

Public Holidays 2006

January 01: New Year's Day
January 02 & 03: Substitute for New Year's Day
January 29 & 30 Chinese New Year (Not official public holiday)

February 12: Makha Bucha Day
February 13: Subsitute for Makha Bucha Day

April 06: Chakri Day
April 13 - 15: Songkran Days

May 01: Labour Day
May 05: Coronation Day
May 12: Visakha Bucha Day

July 10: Asamha Bucha Day (Not official public holiday)
July 11: Buddhist Lent Day

August 12: H.M. The Queen's Birthday
August 14: Substitute for H.M. The Queen's Birthday

October 23: Chulalongkorn Memorial Day

November 05: Loy Krathong (Not official public holiday)

December 05: H.M. The King's Birthday
December 10: Constitution Day
December 11: Substitute for Constitution Day
December 25: Christmas Day (Not official public holiday)
December 31: New Year's Eve

Cheers
Tee Vee :)

The Traveler
01-01-06, 19:53
Doc's reports can be picked up for as little as 100 Baht by any bar-girl who wants them.

One of my girls has a freaky American sponsor who only sends money each month once she has scanned and e-mailed her monthly test-results. I doubt he can read them anyway.

He did freak out the first time though (which was kind of funny) when the Hepatitis listing showed up as positive as the test looks for Hep antibodies.
Coma,

I assume the test showed up positive for Hep A. It's caught easily (e.g. food) and often goes by without any symptoms. No big deal.

The Traveler
01-01-06, 20:20
Trav, what do you expect?

He's a teacher- the lowest form of expat.
Coma,

what you say seems to be true.

Just wonder what he taught this girl, that customers will cheat her even if she did her part of the deal ?

Coma Boy
01-01-06, 21:57
I assume the test showed up positive for Hep A. It's caught easily (e.g. food) and often goes by without any symptoms. No big deal.No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.

You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.

Traveler1234
01-01-06, 22:28
No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.

You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.

Somewhat off topic, I posted before but worth mentioning again. Chances of contracting Hep A and B much higher than HIV/AIDS. Therefore all brother mongers should make sure to do the following:

Hepatitis A

Check for anti-bodies, if you got them, you're safe. If not, then get vaccinated. Two course regimen, first shot followed by second shot after 6 months. Good for 10 years, then booster.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/a/faqa.htm



Hepatitis B - little more complicated

1. Get tested for both surface antigen and anti-body.
a. If you have anti-body, consider your self lucky, that means you contracted B, seroconverted (tech term for curing yourself) and you're home safe.
b. If you have antigen and no anti-body, that means you contracted B, still carrier, etc. --- then it gets more complicated...PM me for further details for followup, treatment alternatives, etc.
c. IF you have negative for either antigen or anti-body, get your shots asap. Three course regimen, month 1, month 2, month 6. First two shots means you're about 80-90% protected, last shot is for 'memory cells'. Good for 10 yrs, then get booster.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/index.htm


PS - if you think this is helpful, maybe put into FAQ threads (Thailand and other Asian countries)

Evil Penivel
01-02-06, 00:55
However, I don't think Evil has been around that long,


I haven't posted on this board as Evil Penivel very long, but I made my first trip to Thailand in Sept., 1979. During the 24 years I lived as an ex-pat in various countries in Asia, Europe and the ME, I visited LOS too many times to remember. It is true, I don't speak much Thai. The longest I lived in Thailand at one stretch was about a year back in the 1980's, but I've visited LOS between three and 10 times a year (depending where I was living and what my assignment was at the time) since then.

I've had several dozen sessions with Eden girls, although most have been take-aways in my hotel room, not in the club. I even had an Eden girl with me on a four-day trip. How does than compare with your experiences at Eden, Adjarn? My last visit to Eden was in October, 2005. When was yours?

I KNOW when someone is high on drugs. I can't prove through a forum posting, but I'd be willing to bet my 401K that I have as much professional experience in recognizing drug abuse as anyone on this board. During the time I've been with them, the Eden girls have shown zero signs of drug use. In fact, they've been very reticent about drinking. Never had an Eden girl who got more than mildly tipsy.

I know very well heroin can be snorted or smoked, but you mentioned heroin in connection with the risk of HIV. That's of concern with intravenous drug use, or shooting up, because of the transfer of bllod through dirty needles. No track marks, no intravenous drug abuse.

Is it possible some of the Eden girls have at some point tried some sort of drug, that's probably true of most girls in P4P in LOS or anywhere else in the world.

Evil Penivel
01-02-06, 02:31
Does anyone know of Golden Eyes Bar, across from 7/11, Soi 11? I read about it on another site, and it's described variously as the Soho of BKK ... a bit dangerous ... a good place ... mixed nationalities (WGs) ... a bit underground.


Golden Eyes Bar was, at least until recently, a place to score dope. That's what the "dangerous" part refers to, it's mostly a hang-out for street-level dealers, their girls and a few (very few) farangs who have such a bad itch for chemical or herbal stimulants that they venture into very dark corners.

Kind of ironic, considering the current debate in this thread, but if for some reason you want to meet girls with a drug habit, that's the place to go. However, it's not wise to go alone. You won't be welcome unless you're with someone who's known to one of the regulars.

Evil Penivel
01-02-06, 03:36
I
When do you speak with Mark and what happens to the girls.
I do care and dont want them in much trouble.

I can only give you a theoretical answer because I've never had a service issue at Eden. Whether it is skill, luck or the protection of St. Panderus, the patron saint of mongers, each and every session with an Eden girl has met or exceeded my expectations.

But if I ever were to run into a disappointment, here's what I'd do. First, I'd make it clear to the girls that I wasn't happy and if the session didn't improve, I'd speak to Marc. If that didn't work, I'd break off the session, put on my clothes and complain immediately. Remember, a complaint should carry some credibility. You don't want to seem like the guy who eats every speck of food on his plate, then complains to the restaurant manager about how bad the meal was.

Also, it's very good if you have a clear notion of what you're comlaining about. Did the girls fail to provide a promised service? What was it about their service you didn't like? I have no idea about what sort of work you do, but how far would someone get if they complained about your performance to your boss by saying, "I can't explain, but I didn't like it and don't want to pay." Be as specific as possible when complaining.

Finally, ask yourself - am I being fair? Not every experience in life will be a peak one, whether P4P or anything else, but does that mean it wasn't worth it? You're paying about $90 for 90 minutes of sex with two ladies, you're not investing a significant sum of money.Was the session bad enough to make it worth your while to complain about?

In short, unless the session was a rip off, I probably wouldn't complain. I'd still pay the 3,500B, even if it were a bit of a disappointment, but I wouldn't tip the girls. If I continued to visit Eden, I'd make sure to avoid those two ladies. My good experiences at Eden are by no means unique - plenty of guys say the same thing and I'd like anyone to name an establishment that has as consistently high a standard of service as Eden - but as you point out, YMMV.
It's a fact of the P4P life.

Piper1
01-02-06, 03:42
Golden Eyes Bar was, at least until recently, a place to score dope. ... to, it's mostly a hang-out for street-level dealers ... You won't be welcome unless you're with someone who's known to one of the regulars.Evil P - Thanks for the info - doesn't sound like my kinda place. Still I might pop in for a look. Your vivid descriptions of the seedy places tempt some of us to want to visit, like a moth to the flame.

cheers

Piper

IrishLager
01-02-06, 17:08
Well, on my fourth trip to LOS I finally decided to try Eden. I'm more of a FL guy and enjoy the GFE a little more than going to brothels, but based on reports here, I had to try it once. Went through the motions upon entering (yellow line, left side anal right side not, etc, etc.). Picked a decent looking girl from the right side (I'm not really into anal) who looked better in the bar than naked, but a nice girl. She picked a friend with nice fake boobs, and off we went. I have to admit that the whole experience was a little freaky to me and made me a little nervous, so I couldn't really enjoy it as I would have liked. They brought out toys and all that, but I told them I wasn't into having anything but a finger inserted into my arse. They were cool with that and it ended up with me blowing a load into each of their mouths. After, we went down, paid my 3,700 BHT or whatever it was, plus I gave them each a 500 BHT tip. I imagine they live, or have lived pretty hard lives, so the tip was more for that than anything-a simple act of kindness, I guess. I don't think I'll go again. I prefer to go at my own pace with a FL girl from a disco/bar.
My last night in BKK I got picked up at Angels Disco by an absolute darling. Really cool girl and super cute. Had a short timer with her as I had to catch a 6am flight back to the States. We hung at the disco, danced, had some drinks, some laughs, and then headed to my room and had a great time. I asked for her number so I could call her in March when I return to LOS. I figure that it's always good to have contact numbers for girls you get along well with, since the FL underworld is so hit and miss. It's just too bad that my Angels darling will have probably been dicked by 100 different guys between now and March. Damn, that sucks! Whatever. I'll still ring her up. She was just too cool and sexy.

The Traveler
01-02-06, 23:11
No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.

You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.
Coma,

that's what I meant.

Mike B
01-03-06, 22:26
Basic notes by a newbie for newbies.

1. The Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP)

A landmark of Bangkok (BKK) action is the Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) on Sukhumvit Soi 4. Where is that? If you look at a Bangkok map, you'll see major roads (eg., Sukhumvit) and sideroads/lanes (called "Soi"s). So Sukhumvit Soi 4 is the 4th sideroad off Sukhumvit Road. Usually "even" numbered Sois are on one side of the road, and "odd" numbered ones on the other side.

At NEP, and throughout the many Sukhumvit Sois, you will find dozens & dozens of bars and go-gos (strip-joints) filled with girls waiting for you and your hard-earned cash. Fortunately, the sex business is straightforward: find a girl you like, negotiate a price, and take her home.

A few things to note. First, at these places most the girls "work" for the bar, unless they are freelancers (independents.) It is their job to get you to buy drinks, both for yourself and for the girls (and those girly drinks come at a premium price.) Second, if you wish to take a girl home with you, you have to pay a certain amount to the bar (called the "bar fine") AND separately, the girl's own fee. Read the forum for up-to-date prices, as it fluctuates during holidays, etc.

** One factor when negotiating a price with the girl is how long you can expect her to stay with you. On forums you'll see the acronyms ST (short time) and LT (long time.) ST is around an hour, more or less. LT means overnight stay. Make clear to the girl if you expect ST or LT for the price.

What kind of action can you expect? Well, in Bangkok you can find anything. Subjectively the girls at NEP and surrounding will be in the mid or low range... mostly rated 4 to 6 on the looks scale... with a few 7s and very rare 8s (which would already be taken by someone else.) Looks are very subjective, tough, but most mongerers here are going for "service" rather than model-like looks.

Where to stay. There are numerous hotels in the Sukhumvit area, from international chains (such as JW Marriot) to small local hotels (such as the Woraburi Inn.) ISG has an entire section devoted to Bangkok hotels, so look there for more information. You will get the best rates by booking in advance, though a travel agent or via the Internet. A hotel can be "girl friendly" (or not), though typically hotels in this area will be. For your own safety, the hotel will typically ask the girl to register with the front desk and/or leave her ID card with them. Before bringing girls to your hotel, BE SURE to lock your valuables away, either in your in-room safety box (if available) or leave them with the front desk. Most girls are honest but you will never know.

How to get to NEP / Sukhumvit area? From the airport, queue up at the taxi stand and tell them which hotel you'll be staying at. There is a 50 Baht surcharge you will pay in advance. Once in the taxi you should ask to take the toll road. There are two toll roads to Sukhumvit (I believe costing 20B and 40B, respectively.) You're expected to pay the toll fee, so have this ready. The cost from the airport to Sukhumvit should be around 200 to 250 Baht.

Getting back to the Airport. By law taxis should always use the meter, but outside the airport area this is rare. Going back to the airport you'll have to negotiate with the taxi driver up front. Make clear if the price you're paying includes all toll fees. Generally they will want 350 Baht from Sukhumvit to BKK airport, which is a ripoff that's hard to avoid. One time a driver agreed to 300B including toll charges... then the SOB skipped one toll road to save on his costs (good thing I left early or would have been late.)

Getting around Bangkok. Bangkok is a large area; for tourists it is roughly divided into the old city (the western half of Bangkok) and the new city (the eastern half.) NEP is within the newer, eastern half, where you can use the BTS "Sky Train" to get around. From NEP, the closest BTS station is located conveniently on Sukhumvit (turn right onto Sukhumvit and walk a couple of blocks.) You can purchase tickets from the vending machines within the station. The machines only take coins, but you can get change from the ticket booth (sometimes there are special booths for getting change.) Price for one trip is between 20 to 40B, depending on distance. The BTS "Sky Train" does not serve old Bangkok (where the palaces & temples are.) There you can take the riverboats or taxis. For short distances, you can also take the small "Tuk Tuk" three-wheel taxis.

2. More upscale mongering

In BKK you can find beautiful women everywhere, but some places are known pick-up joints. An example would be the Hard Rock Cafe at Siam Square. After paying the 250B cover charge, you will find providers in the bar areas below and on the floor above. The HRC isn't a big area, so unfortunately your selection will be limited. The girls working in places like these will be independents, though... generally better looking than at NEP, perhaps more educated.

Even higher up on the scale are private clubs such as The Pent (31/1 Wireless Road, aka Witthayu Rd, across the street from the Swissotel Nai Lert.) There is also a hopping club at the Novotel Siam Square (cover charge is waived for hotel guests.)

** Be aware that these clubs operate VERY differently from the NEP scene. You should be well dressed or may be refused entry. Here you may find gorgeous model-quality girls (many 8s, 9s++) but the clientelle are also different. While in NEP you'll find mostly older gentlemen wearing shorts and t-shirts, certain nights at the upscale clubs the mongers are young expat executives in their 30s and early 40s, ready to spend a lot of cash. Some of the top girls I've talked to at the Novotel demanded 4000 Baht and rarely budge in price, for good reason. Some are also choosy... why go home with a 60 yo. fat guy (no offence if that's you) when they can be with a handsome client in his 30s, paying the same rate (or more)? Unfortunately, service is often inversely proportional to the way a girl looks. However I'm a sucker for looks and these clubs have not disappointed me.

3. Other notes

** Condoms. Note that condoms in Thailand and some other Asian countries are slightly narrower than those in western countries. You may want to bring your own condoms if this would be a problem for you. Otherwise, you may be able to find the Durex "Comfort" line which is the same diameter as condoms in the west. However in Thailand the condom boxes only have Thai lettering on them so you may not be able to figure out which one is the "Comfort" line.

** In Bangkok and throughout Thailand, there are numerous transsexuals (lady boys), known locally as "Katoey"s. Many of these Katoeys are better looking than your average bar girl, and many tourists can't tell them apart. If you see a girl that's very well "constructed", she may in fact be a he, post surgery. No need to be paranoid, but keep this in mind to avoid surprises. For some, ignorance is bliss.

Where to eat. No need to be apprehensive about finding food in Bangkok because in the worst-case scenario, there are western chains (McDonalds, Pizza Hut, KFC, Subways, Starbucks) everywhere. However local Thai food is very delicious, cheap, and should not be missed. If you're adventurous you'll also like eating from the numerous food-stalls on the street... I miss having a nice greasy pad thai (fried noodles, 30 Baht from street vendors) at 2am, with some cold beer bought from 7-11.

Shopping / gifts. If you'd like to buy some handicraft / artwork to bring home, you should go to the Chatuchak Weekend Market (open Saturdays & Sundays for retail shoppers.) Take the BTS Sky Train to Mo Chit and just follow the crowd to the market (5 minutes walk from Mo Chit station.) You must haggle to get a good price.

If you don't want to haggle then you can also shop at the Naraiphand (127 Rachadamri Road) close to the Phloen Chit BTS station. It is the largest artwork "mall" in Bangkok. You'll end up paying more than at Chatuchak, but the Naraiphand is partly managed by the Thai government, so you have some comfort about the products there. You can haggle a bit at some of the 1st floor stores (usually 10%), though upstairs everything is set price.

For really good prices, you'll have to go to Chiang Mai, where most of the handicraft come from.

4. Conclusion

Mongering in Bangkok is actually very easy... read the forum as there is so much great information from all the posters. Whether you're into the NEP scene, or looking for a change (like threesomes, search for Eden Club), there's something for everyone. There's so much more available to you in Bangkok then what I've described here.

Know what you want, research a bit about prices, be aware of your surroundings, and you're set to go.

Hope this may be of use for someone.

Dinghy
01-03-06, 23:24
Retired - I don't know about BKK, but several Pattaya kai yaa up on Soi Bukheow have C for 800B for a pack of 4 so 950 is not that unreasonable (or impossibly cheap) IF you deal with a place more than once, they sell you the "good stuff" (Yes, it's INDIAN - "sidalis" or something like that) - same stuff as I got in Cambodia

Dumdass
01-04-06, 13:10
Hi all fellow mongers,

I am planning a trip to BKK sometime during February/March. This is my first time going BKK alone and as an adult, and would appreciate help from fellow mongers.

I've gone through the forum for a fair bit, if not extensively, and I still have not found answers for my questions.

I read that most hotels would allow guests for a joiner fee, and that this can also be bypassed if I make a double occupancy reservation. But if I were to make a double reservation, how would I check in/out? I am planning on using escort services that would lasts for more than a day.

I know very little about Thai culture, save from what I read here. I know about 'butterflying' and that holding hands aren't considered decent. But what about tattoos? Would I get stick for having tattos on my back whilst I'm lounging at the pool area? My tattos aren't outrages nor provocative. Nor are they tribal. Also, will my 'girlfriend' be turn off by my tattoo? Oh, and I also know that it's impolite to raise your barefeet in public.

One last thing. I'm interested in going on a 'cultural' tour around BKK with my 'girlfriend'. Can I arrange this with my hotel concierge? I'm planning on staying at the Marriott SPA resort.

I will report back the prices I get qouted later on by the agencies. Thanks in advance.

1Ball
01-04-06, 19:24
Hi guys, I know it is in here somewhere, but I just cannot find it.
Looking for a couple of nice laid back jazz or blues bars in the Siam and Suk area.
Relaxed, no pool tables, a notch above the rest?
Any ideas ?
thanks

Coma Boy
01-04-06, 20:20
looking for a couple of nice laid back jazz or blues bars...
relaxed, no pool tables, a notch above the rest?

1ball, try temptations at nep.

otherwise there's a quiet jazz bar at the imperial queen's park hotel on suk 22, distil, diplomat bar at conrad, 15th street near sathorn, reflexions at the athenee hotel on wireless, brown sugar, santika, saxophone pub (victory monument), red lantern, foubar in siam, the hornet, and plenty of small thai places rep001tered around banglumpoo... oh and that jazzanova place on suk 24, and bamboo bar at the oriental is very famous for jazz, and mojos on suk 33.

(pm me if you want directions/locations).

but you'd definitely like temptations best.

Coma Boy
01-04-06, 20:23
Hi all fellow mongers etc. etc. etc.Dumbass, don't think too much, don't worry about any of those things.

Just go with the flow and you'll have a fucking cool trip.

Freeler
01-04-06, 20:30
1Ball,

HM King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand is a keen jazz player.
Why not check one of his gigs out?

http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl/candlelight.ram
http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl/hm_blues.ram

Too bad it's fukken RAM files tho!

Piper1
01-05-06, 02:47
Basic notes by a newbie for newbies...


Mike - good general newbie info from a BKK newbie (like me)


Comaboy - Jazz at Temptations?? Maybe a few trumpets. ;)

1Ball
01-05-06, 03:37
thanks CB. I find hotel lounges to be kind of dreary. Which of these bars is fun, with some ambience to it ?

Kens14
01-05-06, 07:04
loyalty...,

tuesday.

i arrived in bkk on tues for four days of bacchanalia. after having the full pampering session in a manicure pedicure place i headed to darlings mp at 4.30pm.

i picked no. 112 (don't remember her name), she was the oldest of a fairly good bunch. i like 'em more mature, i figure they're more experienced, they know what they're doing and if they're still in the profession they know how to make a man happy rather than just look good.

my theory of chronology was proved to be absolutely right in the case of no. 112. she proved to be an absolute cracker. face was about a 7, body an 8, but silicon meant they were better to look at than feel. legs were a 9+ though, and i go for legs so i was happy.

the body to body soapy in the jacuzzi was wonderful. the tit-wank was all the better for her silicon enhancement, this was followed by a superb bbbj ending with her swallowing my product. i didn’t think you got such service in a mp !? it should be noted that the swallowing was followed by copius mouth washing and listerine. this didn’t worry me as she had no problems dfking me.

the jacuzzi session was then followed by a fair oil massage, which was really just intentioned to get me up again, which surely happened. we started doing a sort of oily body to body on the bed, this ended up with me lying on her back, her legs open and my tumescent friend probing her treasure. i was uncovered at this point and my glans was probing her labia majora (i passed anatomy 1 !). i’m sure she’d have let me slot it all the way home, which i wanted to do, but sense took over. i covered myself and we got down to a good, hard session including mish, cb, cbb, doggie etc. she really did seem to enjoy herself and was totally uninhibited. i had made clear to her that i wasn’t interested in anal (it’s just not my thing), so maybe she was happy that she knew that this wasn’t down the line. anyway, i finished in mish – i like to look them in the eyes as i blow my load up them.
the damage was 2,500baht for 1.5 hours and a 500 tip to the girl – all fun.

that evening i thought i’d warm up with a few beers in cowboy. i went to baccara, spice girls and dollshouse. i wasn’t particularly impressed with any of them, they seemed to lack sanuk, spice girls was ok, but nothing special. if anyone has any suggestions as to the best go-go’s down there it’d be appreciated. so then i wandered down to have a few beers in the streetbars around soi’s 11-13 with the intention getting a fl.

i happily sat and watched the street parade, flirted with a few girls and was just about to make my selection when a girl i’d been with in august came along. well, she sat down, had a drink and it was clear that it was going to be difficult to shake her. i didn’t really want to take her (why do the same girl twice in bkk ?), but felt i had to out of loyalty – oh she’d played me with all the sob stories i just don’t have the heart to walk away.
rather than take her to my hotel i took her to the playboy hotel, paid 540baht for room for 2 hours and gave her 1,500bht for a fairly good session, but i wasn’t sad to say goodbye to her.

wednesday.

i spent the day relaxing in soi 8, the afternoon was spent drinking beers in the bars near [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s watching the comings and goings on the street. i was trying to save myself for the evening.

at 8pm i headed down to nep and went to farang connection and rainbow 3 – both of which were very unimpressive. i then went to angelwitch which was superb – sexy girls and a real frisson of excitement in the air – i’ll definitely go back there.
at 11pm i headed over to the biergarten to get a nice little freelancer with whom i intended to live out all of those angelwitch fantasies.

sat in the biergarten deciding which, from a fairly poor selection, would be my princess for the night and lightening strikes twice ! a girl that i’d spent a few days with back in 2004 came over and starts regaling me with the sob stories. she’s made big public displays of affection (in front of all the other girls) and i (stupidly) feel far too loyal to brush her off and take someone else. so for the second night in a row i’m replaying a match !

so, i now realize that these girls have keyed into the ‘loyalty’ psychology which is drummed into us in the west, and they play on it for all it’s worth. this is ridiculous when i consider how these girls work day in day out !

so today it’s off to annie’s, then who knows ? what’s clear is that my two favourite areas for getting fl’s are out of the question because of stupid loyalty – damn!!

Coma Boy
01-05-06, 08:18
I took her to The Playboy Hotel, paid 540baht for room for 2 hours.Ken, why are you paying double price?

I always pay 270 Baht for the rooms at Playboy, or am I missing something?

Coma Boy
01-05-06, 08:26
thanks CB. I find hotel lounges to be kind of dreary. Which of these bars is fun, with some ambience to it ?Okay, try Distil, 15th Street, Brown Sugar, Santika, Saxophone Pub, Jazzanova, Mojos, The Hornet, and if you have time lurk around Banglumpoo area and you'll find several cool Thai places...

And Casanovas at NEP.

Kens14
01-05-06, 08:32
CB - yeh, I was a bit drunk and am not really sure what I paid, I remember 270bht being mentioned, I remember asking for 2 hours and 2 bottles of water, I gave him 1kbht note, he went away and came back with some change - which I never checked - I know this sounds careless, but frankly I didn't fancy counting money when I could be getting down to some p4p fun...,

It's not the money, but the honey, which matters !

Ditto88
01-06-06, 11:26
Okay, try Distil, 15th Street, Brown Sugar, Santika, Saxophone Pub, Jazzanova, Mojos, The Hornet, and if you have time lurk around Banglumpoo area and you'll find several cool Thai places...

And Casanovas at NEP.


Santika at Ekkamai has my vote although i have never been to the other places mentioned. Easy place to get a freebie if you order a bottle of swing, flash a little money and be charismatic enough. Definately a different pool compared to NEP although the money spent is more on booze rather than sex. Ultimately, the aim is still the same, TO GET LAID !! would gladly forfeit 5 years of my life to get an all nighter with the singer at Santika...hahaha.

Uhh..dont forget Zeet at Soi 4 too...lots of 18-19 year olds although the interior is a little dark.

Capt JB
01-07-06, 08:08
Hi all fellow mongers,

I am planning a trip to BKK sometime during February/March. This is my first time going BKK alone and as an adult, and would appreciate help from fellow mongers.

I've gone through the forum for a fair bit, if not extensively, and I still have not found answers for my questions.

I read that most hotels would allow guests for a joiner fee, and that this can also be bypassed if I make a double occupancy reservation. But if I were to make a double reservation, how would I check in/out? I am planning on using escort services that would lasts for more than a day.

I know very little about Thai culture, save from what I read here. I know about 'butterflying' and that holding hands aren't considered decent. But what about tattoos? Would I get stick for having tattos on my back whilst I'm lounging at the pool area? My tattos aren't outrages nor provocative. Nor are they tribal. Also, will my 'girlfriend' be turn off by my tattoo? Oh, and I also know that it's impolite to raise your barefeet in public.

One last thing. I'm interested in going on a 'cultural' tour around BKK with my 'girlfriend'. Can I arrange this with my hotel concierge? I'm planning on staying at the Marriott SPA resort.

I will report back the prices I get qouted later on by the agencies. Thanks in advance.


Save the money you were going to spend on the escort service. You just do not need them. I would suggest that you check into the JW Marriott rather than the Marriott Spa as the JW is right in the middle of the action. Go out the door, walk around the corner and you are right at the Nana Entertainment Plaza which is right across the street from the famous Nana hotel in which you will find Angels Disco as well as a lobby bar that is a great pick up spot. The parking lot at the Nana Hotel is also loaded with girls. On the same street is the Morning & Night Bar which usually has atleast 30 girls working on each shift as well as several other bars on the same street.
Also about a block away is the Landmark Hotel which has a lounge with live music in the basement and about 2 blocks away is the Beergarden on Soi 7 which is full of freelancers. After a day in this area you could open your own escort service

Quit your worry on the little stuff as it will not be a problem. Treat the locals with respect and smile a lot and you are in. Get mad and raise hell with them and they will turn you off totally. The JW Marriott is very guest friendly, in fact they treat them as if they were your wife and the girls love it. Keep the girl long term (overnight) and she will be more than happy to take you on a tour of the temples ect. Don't worry about checking in or out. The hotel justs wants your name on the registration and your credit card. This place is just too easy. Trust me on this one. Spend the escort services money on the girls direct plus you will have a lot more to choose from.

Coma Boy
01-07-06, 10:32
Save the money you were going to spend on the escort service. You just do not need them.Actually, escort services can be very useful.

Sometimes it is nice to have a genuinely good-looking girl, which is not easy to come across in the Nana area.

Paris 2006
01-07-06, 18:46
Hi,

I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.

What is the regular price and where to buy?

Thanks for any helping answer in advance.

Paris

Surfdude
01-07-06, 20:12
If you want to get to know genuinely good looking girls who can speak good English, try visiting Carribean and speak with someone u like. Although they don't allow take outs you can obviously talk to the girl and make seperate arrangements. Some of them are university students/ graduates and work there part time as hostesses.

Escort company charges are mostly overpriced.

However, since beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder I'm not sure what type of girls you consider genuinely good looking. I find that Westerners tend to go for dark and petite girls while Asians prefer the fairer skin.

Freeler
01-07-06, 21:19
Not a word from me...

Player2
01-07-06, 23:49
Hi,

I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.

What is the regular price and where to buy?

Thanks for any helping answer in advance.

Paris

Pretty much any pharmacy have Kamagra which is made in India.
It is as good as real.

Player2
01-07-06, 23:53
Actually, escort services can be very useful.

Sometimes it is nice to have a genuinely good-looking girl, which is not easy to come across in the Nana area.

No need for escorts in BKK.
Go to Utopia 2nd floor or Pegasus. You will find best looking women in these 2 places.
I did and enjoyed every moment of it.

Jimbehr2000
01-08-06, 09:08
What type of place is Utopia? I am not familiar with it.

Piper1
01-08-06, 10:26
Yesterday I had a great time in a whirlwind tour around Soi Cowboy and other places with Wowser (great fun) and RTB (who manages Toxic - cool dude type, also fun) and Jen (his sexy sweet smart bartender), who I met at Toxic while staying in Town Lodge Hotel. Those guys don't stop in one place very long. I arrived there 11pm, and after a few drinks at Toxic we headed out about midnight, and checked a few bars out.

About 130am, I took Fon, a busty gal, back to the hotel from a Soi Cowboy bar for LT, took some great pics, but I changed to ST as she wanted to sleep (which may explain her ordinary performance), so I said bye. But she came back with me to some other bar in Soi Cowboy around 330am - can't remember the name, where we found Wowser and RTB playing pool with some honeys. All of the above beat me every game I played. Blame the rum and cokes.

I love the waitresses in that place - very nice and genuinely friendly. It was way past closing time and we were upstairs alone with them chilling out, so it was more like a private party.

Fon must have suddenly got over her "sleepiness" because one minute she was sitting with me eating, next minute I look around and see her stripped naked up on the stage dancing energetically alone and laughing until a couple of gals joined her for some erotic grope play.

One of the waitresses looked at me with a smile and asked if I was okay with "my girl" dancing naked for all to see. I tried explaining she wasn't my girl - the honeymoon was over.

When we all hopped in a couple of cabs to Suk aroud 4 or 5 am, Fon came along also and sat with me. Damn! I was on the lookout for another girl.

After eating and drinking at a street cafe on Suk for a while, I went around the corner for a leak, and when I came back, Jen said "my girl" had left. I tried to explain she wasn't my girl, no problem. Then I started to fall in love with Jen (who reminds me of the lead singer from the Bangles).

I fell even more in love after she said something to me, I replied something in French and she responded in French. I wasn't sure about her and RTB being "together" or not, so after quietly asking RTB about this, he was a bit Umm and Arrr about it, and pointed out she wasn't a WG anyway, and I left well enough alone.

Meanwhile, Wowser is still munching away with one of his faves - I think it was Oil - a hot sweetie.

Then I fell in love with a cute little Sino-Thai girl sitting nearby who RTB knows. I would have taken her, but RTB gave the impression she wouldn't be a good choice, so trusting his judgement and experience I politely declined her offer.

About 530am the group departed, and I took a walk up Suk, and soon enough found a cutie walking in a hurry. Asked her where she was going and she said home or with me. I said "with me". We agreed on 1500 ST and back to the hotel we went. Great session including anal. Said goodbye about 830am, set the alarm for 1pm, a bit of shopping then airport at 4pm. Back at work now. Need sleep. Was it all a dream? Just checked the pics. Not a dream.

Knobrm
01-08-06, 11:38
just bought 3 packs of Kamagra for 1500B in the farmacy between Suk soi 5 and 7. They asked 600B for one.

works well, no side effects for me at least; used as performance enhancer
rather than medication. Got released 6 times in past 24 hours, and with help of this could have done more...

knob


Hi,

I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.

What is the regular price and where to buy?

Thanks for any helping answer in advance.

Paris

Paris 2006
01-08-06, 12:44
Knobrm

Thanks for the info!

What is the content of one pack? 4 tablett with 100mg each?

Paris 2006
01-08-06, 14:59
@Knobrm

Thanks for the info.

How many tabletts are in a pack? And which size? 100mg?

Hades
01-08-06, 20:37
Was it all a dream? Just checked the pics. Not a dream.

Yeah I totally know what you mean, my trip is slowly seeming surreal, I cant wait to go back for another holliday. I am already planning it!

Mcavity
01-10-06, 06:48
an unexpected window of opportunity last sunday saw me in bkk for 12 hrs so apart from having to fit in a couple of meetings decided to make the best of things!

started off at 11.00 in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s just as they were opening up. sat at the bar as the girls reported for duty, signed in and then went to change. the early bird didn’t catch anything particularly juicy as a parade of solid farm girls arrived. finally settled on a moderate looker, 4 at best - jum and headed upstairs. had some thoughts about a fs session but settled for what was a very proficient bj. a couple of clients already being serviced judging from feet under curtains but all very silent compared with the bj factories in china where the air is full of (fake) cries of pleasure. downstairs and out didn’t linger after paying the 700 and tipping jum 300.

work intervened for a few hours but investigated soi 7 bier garten round about 4. packed solid, the ratio male to female was only fairish but certainly not the time for a quick pull and leisurely browsing not possible in view of the crowds so decided to give it a miss. more bear garden than bier garten but not always like that i know.

moved on at 6 to what i hoped would be the highlight of my day - eden. only a couple of girls sitting outside so went in expecting a line-up to be on – but oops – no. hardly an empty seat at the bar “we very busy” and when the line-up was sorted it came down to 2 to the left and two to the right. since i really didn’t have time to spare went for the left. one reasonable looker who hardly said a word for the whole session “a” sorry i’ve forgotten her name - and ton who had a lot to say for herself. out the back door - no longer the walk of shame with the bags that look like workman’s tool kits – and long gone are the upstairs rooms - and into the short time hotel. room on the third floor unimpressive and ton apologised for it. usual shower and cleanup routine and then down to business. decided i would give “a” some a. a few leisurely strokes and “why you not come yet” so speeded up a bit and despite the very modest size of the mcavity equipment she complained a bit more but shot my load anyway. round 2 was an excellent bj from ton. a girl in an unhappy frame of mind. complained her last client had deep throated her and hurt the back of her mouth. said she likes to smoke marijuana - although at first thought she said marlboro. “a” kept popping in out of the room and after the second pop i decided to call it a day before full time rather than watch what would, i’m sure have been a lacklustre lesbian interlude. paid the 3500 and left tipping them both 500. ton fully deserved it but not “a” but didn’t want to cause a fight.

decided to give annie’s a try for the final venue of the day. used off and on over the years and like other posters have noted some mixed performers but location is good. arrived just before 22.00. a dozen the fishbowl. only 2 worth a second look, sought mamasan’s opinion and she directed me to a lump on the back row. no thankyou and chose no 12 - lay. mamasan indicated she wasn’t the best choice but i stuck with her. paid 1700 which included beer for self and lay and headed to the rooms. red lights all on in the first corridor – business was booming – and further into the bowels past the laundry and into a very large room. lay whose english was quite good asked me if i wanted massage, bj, hj, or make love. all i said and her face fell. but then said i’d settle for the final option as i was starting to feel knackered anyway. soapy interlude wasn’t too brilliant as the water was cold. she said it was turned off at 22.00. would rate lay a 7, good rack, mid 20’s, and carrying possibly a kilo or two too much weight. onto the bed for a really good session. quite easily best experience of the day and a fitting end to12 hrs in bkk. lay said i was first customer of the day which i find hard to believe looking at her competition in the fishbowl.

conclusions
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) . unbeatable for the ultimate quickie but that is about it.
eden. victim of its own success. should have waited but time did not permit. my error.
annie’s. can be hit and miss. i struck lucky. good value and don’t let the mamasan choose for you!

final thought -the following day i was decidedly stiff in the legs. obviously used muscles that had been resting for too long. scope for a book “bonk your way to fitness”. for years i’ve thought massage parlours were for sex, now i know they are really just fitness centres.

Knobrm
01-10-06, 11:59
4x100mg per pack. Quarter of one works for the night at least for me.


@Knobrm

Thanks for the info.

How many tabletts are in a pack? And which size? 100mg?

Wanja
01-10-06, 23:34
[QUOTE=Knobrm]just bought 3 packs of Kamagra for 1500B in the farmacy between Suk soi 5 and 7. They asked 600B for one.

Notice that over 80% is shit (they invent there imitation) what you buy in Thailand and can be dangerous because use of additives drugs.

so beware and buy it at home.!

Dinghy
01-11-06, 01:48
Wanja - far be it from me to tell you that you ar full of shit ... BUT - 80%? NOT LIKELY (mai chue) ASSUMING you buy from a street seller (your mistake) and not from kai yaa I would figure that 80% would LOW - but buying from a chemist (kai yaa) at least gives one a point of reference. The last batch of fake I got was a bunch of Chinese blue devils (no effect) so I won't use those again - and WHERE did I get then - a healthy food store IIRC

Mountain Guy
01-11-06, 03:50
ok, i feel like an idiot. i printed the map to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and walked around there yesterday afternoon again last night and could not find the damned place. mai u tee nee krup! can some one please tell me how to walk there from nana station, nep, or the landmark? thanks.

settled on cute issan girl from the farang connection, on or un (small third floor bar at nep owned by a uk guy). $600 bar fine, $1000 s/t, very friendly and great attitude, 7 looks, 8 performance. excellent oral skills. claimed she just started working to support her family in the north. i bet no one has heard that one before.

Sean_Double
01-11-06, 04:27
ok, i feel like an idiot. i printed the map to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and walked around there yesterday afternoon again last night and could not find the damned place. mai u tee nee krup! can some one please tell me how to walk there from nana station, nep, or the landmark? thanks.

mountain guy,

walk out the front door of the landmark and go to the right. follow sukhumvit past soi 6 to soi 8, and go right into the soi. stay on the right hand side of the street and walk about 100 yards until you come to the second small soi where there will be a hair place on one corner and a 7/11 on the other. proceed down the small soi about 30 yards and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) will be on your left with a sign and girls standing out in front.

good luck,
sean

Goderos
01-11-06, 04:47
Settled on cute Issan girl from the Farang Connection, On or Un (small third floor bar at NEP owned by a UK guy). $600 bar fine, $1000 s/t, very friendly and great attitude, 7 looks, 8 performance. Excellent oral skills. Claimed she just started working to support her family in the north. I bet no one has heard that one before.

nope not me. i think you are the first. congratulations, think you found a keeper. ....... :-P .

Mountain Guy
01-11-06, 11:45
Thanks Sean. Will try it later this evening if I can get away from my wife. I think I'll post a report on "How to Monger Effectively while your Wife is on Holiday with you". I've come up with all sorts of useful ideas, like "Buy your wife a facial/manicure/foot massage and have enough time to hit a MP".

Knobrm
01-11-06, 15:55
At least it works as the Silagras I bought long time ago from the same place;
feel like a bit stronger effect. No side effects noticed in my body.

I also find it fairly low risk to buy these from pharmacist that serve the
industry long term. However, there is always a risk - but that's life.
If I would avoid all possible risks of this life, I would not be having fun in LOS either, rather would stay in my European home country - but that's not a life worth living to me.

However, having lived in China for few years, I would NEVER buy from the Chinese touts that try to push those at least in south China airports.



Wanja - far be it from me to tell you that you ar full of shit ... BUT - 80%? NOT LIKELY (mai chue) ASSUMING you buy from a street seller (your mistake) and not from kai yaa I would figure that 80% would LOW - but buying from a chemist (kai yaa) at least gives one a point of reference. The last batch of fake I got was a bunch of Chinese blue devils (no effect) so I won't use those again - and WHERE did I get then - a healthy food store IIRC

Kinda Nasty
01-12-06, 19:16
Didn't see this reported, but at least two Soi Cowboy bars, Long Gun and Raw Hide, are now featuring full nude dancing at least after 10pm (and maybe earlier -- didn't check then). I always have found SC a better value than NEP and this just adds to it. My last check of NEP a few days ago I only saw bikini dancing and overall it just seems to be on the decline as others have commented.

Meaty
01-13-06, 09:57
Picked up a thread from another board that is worth mentioning here, i can't verify the truth of the report, but i can confirm the area is well known for problems with the 3rd sex.
Area under Asoke BTS, walking on the odd soi numbered side, starting from soi 19 until you hit Asoke. This is a well known Ladyboy hangout, but they are also known to distract you in pairs and go for your pockets, so far i know this to be true, what i can't verify is the report i read detailing one of the Ladyboys pulling a knife on a farrang and things getting heated, luckily the farrang disappeared into the night, but definetly worth having your wits about you if you find yourself walking in this area after dark.

Syphonoid
01-13-06, 22:07
I can confirm this also, witnessed a farang from Canada having his mobile phone stolen, they didn't get his wallet as I intervened, just verbally warning him, then they took off and jumped into a cab. Just have your full array of senses available when walking past.

JH Crofts
01-14-06, 06:05
Mcavity,

I really enjoyed your report. I'm here now and agree that Eden is a bit variable.

Have had some good times and some not so good.

Kuranyi
01-14-06, 13:26
Meaty,

I can confirm your report.About 2 years ago the same thing happened to me. Luckily there was no knife involved. It grabbed my balls with one hand and with the other hand tried to grab my wallet. I was a bit drunk but felt it. I could grab her/his hand and it let the wallet fall down. I told her/his all kind of insults and threatened her/his to beat her/his up. That worked.But if there are any weapons involved and you are drunk do not try to play the hero.

Kuranyi

Coma Boy
01-14-06, 18:28
i kinda like that little stretch of sukhumvit. i'm there often and it never feels dangerous.

but, yeah, am sure there are plenty of incidents. it is normally more amusing than scary though.


saying that, i'll probably get stabbed and raped there tomorrow night.

The Traveler
01-14-06, 23:30
Coma,

agree, usually walk from the upper Suk Sois to the lower ones at any given time of day but never felt dangerous there.

If a katoey dares to approach me I only shake my head, they never dared to come close or steal anything from me or even attack me and retreat immediately, no big deal. But Capt JB once told me that he was attacked by a katoey who tried to steal his wallet and also posted a report about it as far as I remember. He had to punch him to get rid of that asshole.

CA Traveler
01-17-06, 06:15
I'm going to be in BKK on 3 Feb for two nights if anyone wants to hook up for a beer.

Capt JB
01-17-06, 06:33
Coma,

As Traveler mentioned I had an incident with 3 of them about a block up from the Westin Hotel where there is a pedestrian overpass. Makes kind of a tight passage where the steps go up to the overpass.

I gave the one who tried for my wallet a 250 lb kiss on his cheek. His two buddies gave it another thought as I pulled out a pepper spray that I carry as I was planning to dust them off with that. That is the only incident I have ever experienced in BKK or anywhere in Thailand for that matter. Could be a problem if you are drunk as they would have a real advantage on you.

Dinghy
01-17-06, 22:41
And that is more or less typical of the overpasses at night - the problem areas seem to be the ENDS where the stairs are located. Guard your wallet (or use a neck wallet like I do)

Watch it though - the pepper spray could actually get you in trouble in LOS - I think it is unlawful to have it (but I might be wrong).

If you think it is scary there you should try Ekkamai at about 3AM (only did it once - waited for the 5am bus. Get outside the bus terminal at that dark hour and it gets a bit "interesting" - it helps to speak a bit of Thai, though. Of course, you would get to see the monks out and about an hour or so later.)

1Ball
01-19-06, 11:51
I know we are all guilty of once in a while, not dressing appropriately. To the bacon grease stained Singha tank top wearers, have a look at what recently was seen exiting the sky train at On Nut. The funniest thing was listening to a bunch of young Thai boys, laughing hysterically, and mentioning the word SUPERMAN.

Kinda Nasty
01-19-06, 19:43
just back from sc. spent most of my time in midnight which also had full nudity on stage with a couple girls barely in bikinis walking around off stage. also a girl dancing nude on top of one of the small round tables against the wall. also briefly peeked in long gun and raw hide which were also 'showing'.

Coma Boy
01-20-06, 07:24
I know we are all guilty of once in a while, not dressing appropriately... ...SUPERMAN.Fuck!

That's a great photo, I've seen that weirdo a few times too.

One of my favourite local freaks is the Farang ladyboy who is often around Asok.

Oh, and that black dude who looks like Rick James.

And most mongers in the Nana area.

Poupard2000
01-20-06, 09:03
Yesterday night ... We have done many gogos with a friend in Cow Boy and Nana... Some are on the way down like many places in Cow boy ... except

- Long gun, a classics, which was full with customers and has a good show
- Cactus... a very special place with a good choice of girls looking in the range of 20 years old , some chubby, but nobody asking for ladydrinks or trying to get a customer for ST or LT... Girls seem to be stoned.. Out of the world. Strange atmosphere, little bit decadent. Girls were nude on the stage.

In Nana Plaza, I was disappointed by Rainbow 3 ... girls very distant... but Hollywod strip at the third floor was a good surprise... managed by an english girl, many sexy ladies, very willing, good atmosphere especially before the closure with Isaan hits. Not so many customers ! A good point for me.

1Ball
01-20-06, 09:57
Fuck!

That's a great photo, I've seen that weirdo a few times too.



actually CB, I nearly went up to him, tapped him on the shoulder, and said.

"Hi Coma Boy, how u doing ? :D

Coma Boy
01-20-06, 11:52
Actually CB, I nearly went up to him, tapped him on the shoulder, and said "hi Coma Boy, how u doing?"I stopped dressing like that months ago.

These days I'm mostly wearing floor-length fur-coats and bowler hats.

1Ball
01-20-06, 12:03
I stopped dressing like that months ago.

These days I'm mostly wearing floor-length fur-coats and bowler hats.

And under the coat? fishnets, I hope. the LBs love that look. :eek:

Coma Boy
01-20-06, 13:04
Yeah, the same fishnets you bought me for our second anniversary.

It's a good look.

1Ball
01-20-06, 15:24
Damn you bbitch, you promised you would keep it a secret.
now Firedick will be jealous.

Freeler
01-20-06, 15:35
Coma, 1Ball,

Stop it already!
Poor Firedick sent me a pm asking me if I could stop you --> The man's over the edge:)!

1Ball
01-21-06, 01:21
Coma, 1Ball,

Stop it already!
Poor Firedick sent me a pm asking me if I could stop you --> The man's over the edge:)!

Freeler, we try, believe me, we try. But if you could see Coma in his fishnets, and bowler hat, you too would understand......... :p

Berty Boy
01-21-06, 04:27
Poupard 2000,

I had a tgf at this bar back in Oct, and I met this farang lady. It was unclear at the time what her actual role in the bar was. Now that you say she is managing the place, it confirms some things I have been told since I returned.
I agree with you about the place though, there were some really good shows on when I was there and although the girls were off limits to me, it did not stop them trying. There was also a couple of 18 yro (one is one of the show girls and has two kids) but I know at least one who had to leave because of a visit from the boys in brown. If you are still in BKK, go back and get Em to give you a massage if she is still there. She not the most elegant of girls by a long way but damn she's strong. I will be back in March and now tgf and I have parted, she is on my to do list.

Vulcanizer
01-21-06, 20:58
Hello from Surabaya!

Hi Folks, sorry to jump in on your forum, but just wanted to know if any of you run Harleys?

Hopefully in the near distant future, there will be a Harley Indonesia to Thailand run, and I'd like to know what the scene is like with you?

Haven't been to the 'land of smiles' yet, but itching to go, any thoughts appreciated. Take care y'all!

Vulcanizer.

1Ball
01-22-06, 12:56
Asked and answered I am sure, but I can’t find it.
Anyone know of an overnight laundry near the JW Marriott? Capt JB, that is one of your favorite haunts, isn’t it? Anyone?
Thanks

Coma Boy
01-22-06, 13:23
1Ball, I know of one in soi 4. It's a small guesthouse called Orchid (or something).

Approximately opposite the soi 6 junction/Brunswick area. You'll see clothes hanging outside.

They'll take care of your stinky stained soiled garments.

1Ball
01-22-06, 14:12
1Ball, I know of one in soi 4. It's a small guesthouse called Orchid (or something).

Approximately opposite the soi 6 junction/Brunswick area. You'll see clothes hanging outside.

They'll take care of your stinky stained soiled garments.
Hey CB, help an old friend out. how about I bring the laundry over to your place ?

Coma Boy
01-22-06, 14:14
Sure, bring it over.

Am in CNX for a while but many BKK ladyboys have keys to my apartment.

Kinda Nasty
01-22-06, 20:38
Now in handing over cash I'm a big, big cheap charley (kineo mak mak) but I get regulars by doing other stuff -- like taking them shopping. But I can be kineo or at least not put out big baht about that too. Today I took a regular out for clothes to Pratunam to the new Platinum Fashion Mall. In the booths out front I got her a shirt and shorts. Inside, two bras, three panties. Later, a hair band off the street. Total damage: 489 baht.

Daveyboy
01-23-06, 04:17
Guys,

Nothing to do with getting laid, but I'm needing some help and was hoping someone here knows the info.

I got an international driving license 5 years ago and it is expiring this month.
I've been trying to get hold of the people who did the thing, but their e-mail address is no longer used.

The house was on Sukhumvit Soi 77 (if I remember correctly - the grey matter isn't what it used to be), near the witches tavern.

Does anyone know where to get UN International Driving Licenses in Bangkok now?

I'm just landing back in LOS after a long stint in China, if people want to know about Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Wuxi, Tianjin or how to beat the censorship blocks over there, just let me know.

Dave

Capt JB
01-23-06, 12:23
Asked and answered I am sure, but I can’t find it.
Anyone know of an overnight laundry near the JW Marriott? Capt JB, that is one of your favorite haunts, isn’t it? Anyone?
Thanks

On the same side of the street as the Nana Entertainment Plaza but about 1 block down there is a condo/apt building. The parking lot will be on the left side looking in from the street and there is a little guard house at the edge of the street. There is a lady who does laundry in her apt and as I recall it's on the 2nd floor. Wish I could remember the name of the building but it excapes me. If there is a guy at the little guard shack he will direct you to her apt. I remember it being almost in front of the elevator when you get off. She did one day service on laundry and did a good job.

As far as under clothes go its cheaper to throw them away and buy new ones than to send them to the Marriott's laundry service.

Freeler
01-23-06, 13:40
Vulcanizer,

Salamat Datang!

Check Google for Jesters, Bangkok.
Every now and then they ride down to Pattaya for the weekend.
Sometimes they arrive home with fewer riders than set out with. RIP Jester...

Is F&S still available from under Rp20,000 in Surabaya:)?

Happy trails, Salamat Jalan,

Freeler

Coma Boy
01-24-06, 06:09
The house was on Sukhumvit Soi 77 (if I remember correctly - the grey matter isn't what it used to be), near the witches tavern.Witch's Tavern is on 55.

Tokyohomeboy
01-24-06, 14:23
No need for escorts in BKK.
Go to Utopia 2nd floor or Pegasus. You will find best looking women in these 2 places.
I did and enjoyed every moment of it.What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?

Meaty
01-25-06, 03:33
Out and about in the Nana area on Monday night, things were busy, plenty of girls in the bars, lots of punters. Stopped in G Spot, a few weeks back there was nothing in this bar under 100kg, well it appears a fresh bus load of farm workers has just arrived, there were plenty of attractive ones in there. Visited PS, they had intermitent topless dancing and some nude shows, no lesbian action just sexy dancing, lots of cute girls, but a first in a long time.
Left to go get some chips from soi 23 at around 12am, was accosted along the walk by many FL's, some ugly, some cute, all were asking 1,500 for ST which is absolutely crazy, of course they would have negotiated, but i wasn't that bothered, anyway just past Robinsons, sat right next to the police box on the corner of soi 19, were 2 girls, 1 looks exactly like a hi-so uni student type (just the fashion sense, skin colour and face) the other an older(26yr), attractive isaan girl, we chat, within 2 minutes all 3 of us are in a cab on the way to a ST hotel for 700 baht each. Arrived at the St hotel, location soi Udomsuk, 400 baht for 3 people, pay, enter, porns already on the TV, everyone just stripped off and we all ended up in the shower at the same time, had some fun, no real lesbian stuff, they kissed each others breasts but that was all, they both went at a BBBJ which was great, then the hi-so one put a condom on me and did some cowgirl whilst the other one, well she was busy too !!
Hi-so was really tight and wet and felt great, i ended up rolling her over and finishing whilst all 3 of us were kissing. Great fun. Turns out hi-so isn't hi-so at all (of course), just a bangkok girl breaking into the scene with her mate.
The street scene isn't for everyone, i've never had any problems, but i know people who have, keep your wits about you and you should be fine. Are they any dirtier/lower/skankier/more STD ridden than there more expensive gogo girl sisters, some are i guess, but where do you think a load of them suddenly appear from at 2am ??

Player2
01-25-06, 03:41
What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?

Yes you have to be member .A Thai friend took me there. But I think you can get one time membership ,I am not sure though.
Girls are in between 3000-4000 Baht and up. I loved the place . Nice snacks and fruit trays with Scotch was wonderful and of course with good company.
I brought the girl back to my hotel.
The decor is very nice , like a palace and live music was good as well.

Coma Boy
01-25-06, 07:08
Non-members can enter but must pay an entrance fee of about 2000 Baht, plus non-members pay higher rates for everything (sex, company, room-hire).

Membership starts at about 30,000 Baht and is worth the money if you're going often.

The quality of the girls is really outstanding.

Rikusa
01-25-06, 07:37
26 days in bangkok, just could'nt find the time to travel to pattaya or anywhere i had planned to go. found cowboy the same allways enjoy sams company at tilac and black and white. many new gals. enjoy eating at sams food bar between the 2 bars. long gun was full nude on occasion. not much has changed. the walk between cowbay and nana has become interesting with many vendors and providers out till 6am!! 1000 baht seemed to be the bargaining price. a few for 800, guess i dont bargain well. found many **** at nana plaza outside by hotel. could be trouble but seemed ok for others not for me. checking id's is wierd but a safe trip is all i require. remember the year there is 2549. dynasty told a farang it would be fine, but i wouldnt trust them to not call the police!! did find items missing from my hotel (cellphone) but cant prove it was'nt just lost oh well cant even trust ones that spent 2 weeks on and off with me. just lock up everything of value!! you will be fine. biegarten at soi 7 was nasty, never in 3 weeks of going there did i find anything special. beer is cold if that counts. thermae was a mere shell of its former glory. many trips passing by at 1 am found very few providers inside mostly out along sukumvit down to nana. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) soi 8, second right was as usual very nice (not lookers) providing very good service as allways.

seemed to gravitate to the same tg for most of the trip, allmost as if i had a girlfriend. it did make for a different trip than usual. but still when asked to send money only smile and forget you ever met her! same as allways "how about cab fare"

still its a great vacation for mongers, cant compare to la!!!!

back again to get recharged next xmas, with hopefully more experience gained from your excellent forum. 3rd trip you would think i would be good at this! thats why we must listen too our senior members advice and just ffff

oh yes if your out at nana at the sign in front of nana hotel right corner, say 11 pm. tell short haired tg jiiap hello, and say "old farang quick die"

Xherbert
01-29-06, 20:03
I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.

Has anyone been there?

Do they have girls working there?

Any experiences from this place?

thx,

Old Thai Hand
01-30-06, 02:31
I went to NEP for the first time in a very long time this weekend due to the return of an old friend who wanted to relive the glory days. God!!! What has happened to the place? It was never one of my favorites: too full-on, even at the best of times. But, the girls used to be presentable and the prices relatively cheap. 120 baht for a glass of orange juice??? Geez!!!!!!!!!!
We started in Rainbow II and lasted 15 minutes. Another friend, who's an older Thai hand than I said there was more plastic in there than in a hardware store. It seemed that pretty well every girl had some form of plastic surgery or other. They didn't even look Thai anymore. The friend visiting from the States said they looked like something out of a Japanese cartoon, which makes sense, I suppose since the overwhelming clientele seemed to be newbie Japanese guys throwing money at these fake-looking girls. One of the older girls who obviously couldn't score with the Japanese geeks, came over to me and started with the profunctory back massage and the usual chatter. She was obnoxious and aggressive and left quickly when I wasn't forthcoming with a drink and she realized that I wasn't fresh meat when I barked some Lao at her. The place is a horrow show, to say the least. Newbies, who don't know any better might think it's all great. But believe me, this place is to be avoided if you want an authentic holiday mongering experience (unless of course you're Japanese and go for faux Japanese girls). We then tried Rainbow 4, bigger and better than Rainbow II, but still the same freak show with girls with major attitude problems. We were in an out in 10 minutes.
Finally gave it one last shot by going to Angel Witch. There was no plastic to be seen, but some pretty butt-ugly Isaan girls with miserable faces and bad attitudes.
My friends, both of whom have lovely Thai wives were longing for home, and a shag with the missus by this point, but decided to give the Nana parking lot a chance. They scored because they really wanted to, not because the talent was overwhelming. My friend from the States, who only likes LT was quoted 3,000 for an all-nighter by a parking lot girl, no less, at the end of the month at 1 in the morning when the place was swarming with mediocre fare. Well, you sure can tell it's high season coz the sharks were circling waiting for all you newbie chumps to part with your money.
I left my friends to their hunt and went to Cowboy, coz it's within walking distance of my condo, the girls are generally great and the prices are realistic. Personally, I've always liked Cowboy better because most of the bars have a more relaxed ambiance, (with the exception of Baccara, which should be at Nana because of the Japanese emphasis) and the girls are more genuine and friendly. While not exactly stunners, you do get more of the "ho" next door feel from these girls. There are also some that qualify at least as pleasant, perhaps cute looking, and with great attitudes. I've never been much of a fan of Isaan girls. But, at least here, they are fun to be with and talk to without any high-pressure to do anything other than buy them a drink which most linger over rather than gulp down as they do at Nana.
BTW, I had gone to the Bier Garden the day before with my visiting friend. I hadn't been there for awhile because it was never exactly a source of lovely Thai womanhood, although the atmosphere certainly is grist for some creative mill. THAT place is an experience. Do you guys actually shag these girls? The place has been deconsructed quite eloquently by other veterans here. So, I won't repeat other than to use the somewhat worn comparison to the bar scene in Star Wars. How does one spell that sound one makes when we shudder, and symbolically wipe ourselves down, as if covered in goo? That's the feeling from the Bier Garden.
It was an interesting revisit this weekend to the places that visiting mongers wax poetic about on this forum. Cowboy is the same as it always was. It never promises what it can't deliver, the prices have only inched up and the girls still are fun, if not exactly memorable.
If you are new and don't know where to begin, go to Cowboy. Avoid Nana like the plague and leave it for Toshi from Tokyo spending his hard-earned salary-man money on girls manufactured to look like those he can't afford back home.

Coma Boy
01-30-06, 06:30
I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
Yeah, it's Gullivers.

You can meet working girls there, but NO "nice Thai girls".

Nice Thai girls wouldn't be seen dead there.

Coma Boy
01-30-06, 07:08
OTH- nice summation of NEP. There are still plenty of less-pushy bars there though, but you're spot-on about the Rainbows.

Rainbow is however one of the few bars in the Nana zone where you can meet a good-looking TG, if you can find one pre-surgery. She'll cost a little more, but it's often worth it.

Good looking girls are few and far between in any of the popular Sukhumvit Farang orientated bars.

I too live within walking distance of Cowboy, but rarely find any decent talent there. True, it's less pushy, and more expat than tourist, but the girls on average are worse looking than the already below-par NEP girls.

I am always amazed at the Beergarden when I see guys going with the girls. It's a funny place to go for a drink, but fuck, why any guy would take any of those girls (women) is a mystery.

Fast Eddie 48
01-30-06, 07:21
I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.

Has anyone been there?

Do they have girls working there?

Any experiences from this place?

thx,



to xherbert

The only monger that go there is cheap charlie looking for cheap thrill and
skank , If you are not stay away .

fast eddie 48

Old Thai Hand
01-30-06, 15:01
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]OTH- nice summation of NEP. There are still plenty of less-pushy bars there though, but you're spot-on about the Rainbows.

CB
You're right. less pushy bars would be places like Pretty Lady for example where the girls are reasonable looking and at least quite cheery. I maintain though that the enthusiasm of the Pretty Lady girls extends only to the door. The minute you get them outside, they are mediocre at best. It's one of those places to go, have a cheap thrill for the price of a few lady drinks and then move onto greener pastures, wherever that might be. I was in there with my friend from the States the night before our sojourn to the Rainbows and found it fun enough. Some of the girls are a little psycho. But, I suppose that adds to the ambiance. The mirror on the bar and the lack of panties under the little skirts is a nice touch, as well. I'm sure with your photographic gyno interests, that would appeal to you especially.

I agree with you about Cowboy. But, I still like it there. It's like going down to my local for a pint. I'm sure there are more than a few guys on here who would still envy us for having a venue like Cowboy in our neighborhood, even if the talent is a bit hit and miss. You do still get the FOB (Fresh off the bus) girls at Cowboy. That's what I like about the place. You never know what you might find...like the 19 year-old bartendee student from Chiang Mai that I found a few weeks ago. She is cute enough, really horny and into it because nobody thinks to take her out because she's working behind the bar. The best part was after shagging her, running into her a few days later on the street near my place in her uniform coming from school. There was something about that tight white blouse, black skirt and school badges that added to the post-shag fantasy.

JuiceSpike
01-30-06, 16:15
This is a freak show place that if you are lucky and have the time and patience to wait you might find a decent looking girl.

I have had the most bizarre conversations with farang guys at this place. Usually is with guys that have lived in Thailand for a while if not a long time. What I find amazing is how screwed up some of these guys are mostly when talking about Thai girls they just don't make any fucking sense. At least to me. There have been guys who could pass for respectable and the ones that look like thay have fallen apart readyt to blow up in desperation. They all have one thing in comon: lost souls in the land of cheap pussy.

I find this place interesting and sometimes entertaining but it is a complete waste of time if you are looking for a decent to good looking girl. However, there have been times that I lucked out and found a hooker wannabe or one just starting that had a decent to nice body. Definatley not a place to look for quality but sometimes a quick fuck is all you need during the day.

juices

Retired Army
01-30-06, 17:05
What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?

I had a membership for a couple of years and throughly enjoyed the experience. It's about 30,000 THB a year and with that you get so many bottles of booze and barfines. You can also pay "as you go' but it is $$$.

Great looking girls! They have regular, upscle and models. Prices to match. For a member, if I remember correctly, prices were 1,500 for regular, 2-3 for an upscale and 4 for a model. More for non-members.

The great things about the girls was than when you took them out of the club they didn't dress like hookers, just respectible office or university girls. The Peragus also has rooms on site for short times, but expensive. I think it was around 1,000 THB in addition to the price of the girl.

Biggest downside of the place was the tourists. The Japanese and Chinese would come by the tour bus loads and take all the girls to the karoke rooms for a night of drunken whatever. So if you go and want the best solution go early; about 8 P.M. when they first open and before the tour buses arrive.

Retired Army
01-30-06, 17:17
[QUOTE=Xherbert]I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
[QUOTE]

If you want to meet nice Thai Girls then go to any place othen than Khao San Road, Nana, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya or Phuket. Get out of the tourist areas, see the real Thailand, experience the real Thai hospitality and lifestyle. Make Thai friends. Its harder than hanging around the Beer Garden, but well worth the effort in the long run.

The best way to meet "nice Thai girls" is through an introduction by another Thai who can recommend you as a decent person, not a farang sex tourist.

Piper1
01-30-06, 19:57
Since my brief visits to BKK a few weeks ago, a few pals have asked my impressions of the place. Here they are: It’s a sad sad place.

I walked around for a few hours on the morning of my first day, and I was mildly astonished by the number of geriatric westerner guys being propped up by their 20 year old Thai "girlfriends" as they hobbled down the streets in their tight muscle shirts and skimpy shorts (I’m still talking about the flaccid geriatric guys).

As I walked around even at 10am, I had to deflect a number of beggars. Not Thais, but western guys in their 30s looking 50s, and barely able to walk. If you’ve ever seen a chronic glue-sniffer try to walk, you’ll know what I mean. If not, put on a pair of diving fins, take a walk, and you’ll understand. Think drunken duck.

The regular Thais were wonderful and lovable. In fact, all of the Thai people I interacted with, who were not involved in the game, were the essence of kindness and civility.

But I’m still wondering if all the sidewalk market sellers on Suk were mute or not. ;) I’m sure they were. Doesn't matter - I bought their goods, and I'm sure they got a good deal out of me - I was in a hurry.

In terms of the working girls, they know the business like any around the world, and are appropriately hardened. One difference I noticed between Thai working girls and other working girls is that TGs are prone to vomiting after a few drinks. A few of the clubs I visited reeked of vomit, and indeed one of the girls I took home surprised me by suddenly throwing up soon after we got to the hotel. Maybe I have that effect. No. She looked fine until then.

Not to be too negative, I had a great time with one girl out of the four I met in BKK, even if it was short-time. She gave me all the “you hansum man … I see you long time … I like you ... I wan see you again… you hansum man” repartee. But that’s okay – it’s her job. When I let her know she didn’t need to do that, she relaxed and had a good time. She told me about her Swedish "regular boyfriend" (5,000 short-time every time), her little boy, her mom, her siblings. Then she put it all aside and went to work with me, going through the session with yet another western sex tourist, making it seem like her first time. She was a gem in the rough.

I’m due back in BKK for a couple of days of work in June, but am seriously thinking of extending my stay for a week. But not in BKK. Instead, I think I’ll zip to Burma, hopefully to have just a bit of the innocent fun that Sakaundeh had there recently. A much less hardened place.

Many more impressions, but that's a taste.

Piper1
01-30-06, 20:32
This is a freak show place that if you are lucky and have the time and patience to wait you might find a decent looking girl.

... Definatley not a place to look for quality but sometimes a quick fuck is all you need during the day.

juices
Juices - just saw your post. I had a great time wth a gal from Beergarden. Just lucky I guess.

Snowy
01-30-06, 22:59
I’ve always considered I would like to get over to Bangkok at some point and whilst there are many other reasons outside of the sex scene, I would be lying if I said that the idea of an utterly debauched blow out wasn’t part of the attraction.

I work quite a lot in EE, especially Kiev and SPB, which ideally suits my favoured my female form. To be honest, a hedonistic trip to Asia has been delayed partly based on the likely stupidity of my end of trip report “Bangkok – great place; women insufficiently Slavic looking.”

I was interested in Old Thai Hand, JuiceSpike, Coma Boy and Piper1 all writing recent reports about Soi, NEP and the Beer Garden. These seem to constitute the mainstays of the beginner’s guide to punting in Bangkok and the general impression from those who have been around a bit seems overwhelmingly negative towards the standard places. It’s not uncommon in any area of the forum for “old hands” to a particular place to slam the most well-worn places and hark back to the good old days. It’s a continuum throughout the board – those who have been going somewhere for 10 years, yearn for the place of 5 years ago, those who have going there for a year, yearn for six months ago.

So my question to the regulars of the forum (finally!) is this – assuming I only have time to visit BKK for a few days and not get out to the real Thailand and, as a novice to the area, would probably do the trad beginner’s circuit, do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?

In the meantime, Piper1's post has made me choose -14 over 90 degrees...and for this sir, I thank you from the bottom of 6ft blonde I intend to find in the very near future.

Terry Terrier
01-30-06, 23:50
Snowy,

Thailand's sextourist slums ARE a mega blast for any first time punter-visitor. You summed up the pros and cons yourself. OTH, Coma, Poster, et al, know these places inside out, back to front, and they all offer great insights. But if you decide to come to the party you really should come in at the main entrances. And If you like it so much that you keep coming back, you will find your own niche. There are many 'scenes' and many layers to each 'scene' in LOS.

Piper,

Don't be so hard on those 'old gits'. They're as entitled to pay for their luxuries as the rest of us. Buddha forbid I will make it to that sort of age. But if I do, I hope that if I'm 'old free and single' I'll be getting the much-appreciated attention of some lovely young hired sexworkers rather than the unwanted attention of some Nurse Ratchett character in some Buddha-forsaken [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and shit-fumed nursing home.

But I have to agree on the vests and shorts. Can't the Boys In Brown do something about this?

Crypton
01-31-06, 01:54
I’ve always considered I would like to get over to Bangkok at some point and whilst there are many other reasons outside of the sex scene, I would be lying if I said that the idea of an utterly debauched blow out wasn’t part of the attraction.

I work quite a lot in EE, especially Kiev and SPB, which ideally suits my favoured my female form. To be honest, a hedonistic trip to Asia has been delayed partly based on the likely stupidity of my end of trip report “Bangkok – great place; women insufficiently Slavic looking.”

I was interested in Old Thai Hand, JuiceSpike, Coma Boy and Piper1 all writing recent reports about Soi, NEP and the Beer Garden. These seem to constitute the mainstays of the beginner’s guide to punting in Bangkok and the general impression from those who have been around a bit seems overwhelmingly negative towards the standard places. It’s not uncommon in any area of the forum for “old hands” to a particular place to slam the most well-worn places and hark back to the good old days. It’s a continuum throughout the board – those who have been going somewhere for 10 years, yearn for the place of 5 years ago, those who have going there for a year, yearn for six months ago.

So my question to the regulars of the forum (finally!) is this – assuming I only have time to visit BKK for a few days and not get out to the real Thailand and, as a novice to the area, would probably do the trad beginner’s circuit, do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?

In the meantime, Piper1's post has made me choose -14 over 90 degrees...and for this sir, I thank you from the bottom of 6ft blonde I intend to find in the very near future.

Snowy,

You already know the answer: if you have an open mind about the type of girls you'll meet in the above mentioned places in BKK, you could have a lot of fun. If you are looking for a particular type of girl (a random example: slavic), you'd be disappointed. Thal girls generally are smaller than Caucassians. Most Thai girls would be spinners relative to white women; however, once, you're there, you'll start looking for spinners (if you are into them). In any case, I think every man - no matter age, marital status, etc., - must visit BKK at least once in his life. You'll notice that Thai working girls are very service oriented. They want to please you (you can be a cynic and say for their own selfish reasons) as best as they can. They are offended if you don't "finish" with them (one time, 15 min after I finished with a girl, I had another girl give me a BBBJ for 45 min just to make sure I "finished"!). Not too many places in the world this happens. Sure there are TGs who want to get their damn money and move on, but in my experience it is a rarity.

The whole NEP, Beer Garden, Sukhumvit scene is a little sleazy to be sure. But, there are enough other "normal" people walking around (at least during reasonable hours) that you don't feel too self-conscious. Also, the ease with which you can pick up chicks makes it a fun place. I am pretty sure you'll have a great time in BKK - especially if it's your first time. Yes, even at places that the "old hands" put down. I am not much into the go-go scene and more into the FL scene. Beer Garden is hit and miss - when I was there in 2004, it was terrible. Last June, it was not too bad. The other place I frequent is Gulliver's Tavern on Soi 5. Lots of FLs. I also go to Nana Disco almost every night (or is that early morning?). The variety is there. Just keep an open mind and you'll have a blast.

Cheers.

Crypton
01-31-06, 02:03
Piper,

Always enjoyed your intelligent and thought-provoking posts here and elsewhere. Would like to meet you some time (No, that is NOT a come-on). Anyway, interesting take on BKK scene. From a viewpoint, I agree with you. If you start thinking with your big head about these working girls, the whole scene (their situation, lack of options, us being there, etc.) can be very depressing. I don't think this is unique to BKK. It's just that BKK has a huge scene and almost every WG there has a (probably true) sob story. Let's face it - for many women being a WG is a last resort. The farangs on Suk, of course, are a whole different story.

Cheers.

Capt JB
01-31-06, 05:11
Granted, the Bier Garden is hit or miss and usually miss but every now and then you find a rose among the thorns.

I met this gal at the Bier Garden around noon one day and ended up taking her back to the Marriott for some fun & games. She looked kind of cute running around the pool in her little blue thong. No complaints from the guys but there were 3 mad cows basking their big heavy bodies in the sun who seemed to disapprove. Oh well, I am sure they got over it sooner or later.

Kept her till 6pm and sent her on her way with 1,000 BT and a smile. Really nice attitude and fun to play with.

Coma Boy
01-31-06, 07:55
Do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?Yeah, it is still fucking fun.

NEP, Beergarden, etcetera, are disgusting and crap, but that doesn't stop me still visiting regularly after all these years. A lot of the women at Beergarden are older and heavier than me, yet I still sometimes fuck them. That is why I use the PB Hotel so that my building's security don't spot me with grim old ladies.

Sometimes disgusting = awesome.

I often think I hate NEP, then a friend hits town and I have to show him the sights, and I have an amazing night there.

Snowy, come, see, conquer.

Old Thai Hand
01-31-06, 07:59
Capt JB

I generally never comment on pics posted on this site, especially in the Photo Gallery as I figure that " to each, his own." However, in general I find 99% of the the pics on the Thai thread are of rather ordinary to downright ugly Thai women, (with the exception of Coma Boy's gyno shots; but that's because I was pre-med once, so have an interest...lol).
Posting a pic of this rather long-in-the-tooth "girl" (although I bet she's not even 30 yet), and calling her a "Rose among Thorns" as a response to the criticism of the Beer Garden opens you up to at least a bit of ridicule in using her as in some way disproving the thesis. I think she actually proves the point made by myself and others that the women in the Beer Garden are universally horrible with few exceptions.
If you had fun with her, more power to you. But, don't set her up as an example of a beautiful Thai woman because she isn't, not by any kind of definition.

And...before someone responds to me by saying, "well then, you post some pics of beautiful Thai women", I'll answer that, I can't. The women I shag are mostly not P4P and therefore I can't post their pics on this site. I made that mistake once and had to have them removed.

Old Thai Hand
01-31-06, 08:14
cb, i concur...crap...but....always worth a fresh look.

i feel the same way...hate the places, but can't stay away. i will say that certain bars at nep are at least worth a look and you might find something fun. pretty lady, mandarin, those bars at the top of the concrete stairs on the left and straight back (never can remember their names) and the one with the 3rd floor "schoolgirl" vip area with the glass-floor down to the lower level. you have to watch some of the schoolgrils there as they really are actually almost that...several are ****. i know of at least 2 that are 15, 16 years old. others are 17. they are with 1 or 2 exceptions all very young there. but, i like it coz several are from places other than isaan, like kamphaeng phet, the jewel of the north as far as consistently beautiful women. on one of those very rare occasions when i actually take a p4p, i took a fairly hot girl (probably not as smokin' as havrum's...lol) from kamphaeng phet, who, unfortunately was only there for a short time. great face, great body, white skin and a lovely disposition....everything that is a beautiful thai woman, in my opinion.
i used to like lollipop. but, i haven't been there for a long time.
generally, you have to keep going back because one time the girls might be completely ropey and disgusting and the next time there may have a whole new crop who are not too shabby. it is one of the little joys of living here. being a visitor is tough because you have to try to cram it all in during a relatively short time...kind of like gulping your wine (or plonk) instead of sipping it.

Piper1
01-31-06, 13:30
I was expecting a few flames in response to my impressions of my brief visit to BKK. Instead, I get agreement or gentle disagreement. What happened guys? Taking happy pills? ;)

I don't want to give the impression it's not worth a visit - it definitely is, and I will be going back. Monger's disneyland. What I meant was that I saw a lot of sad sad people. Again, I was only in the NEP/Suk area, and only for two days, so it was a limited view. Many members have PMd me to say that life in Thailand away from these places is awesome. A close family member stayed with a middle-class Thai family in BKK for 3 months, rarely got to see the mongering scene, and loved the place and people.

As for the "old gits" being propped up by the young gals - that'll be me in 40 years (maybe even 20 years if I plan it right).

cheers

Piper

Old Thai Hand
01-31-06, 16:52
piper 1
you need not have worried. your impressions, at least of nep and the suk. area around it were pretty well on the money. there are a lot of lost souls down there, especially those guys who just don't know when to go home, until they can't. a lot of over-40/over-50 and older english teachers come to mind. i know of one guy in his mid-40s, who gave up a good job in construction to move here. he has no education, but after years of toil had moved up to a management position and a decent salary. here, he is all but unemployable except at some low-rent english school that pays 250 baht/hour if you're lucky and doesn't ask too many questions about qualifications. but, that's where he and countless guys like him will languish for eternity until they're too old to even do that. i hear he's in love with some shady girl and spending his savings to build a house for her. it's an all-too familiar story of loss, without the redemption or salvation.
life for those of us who only go to nep and other places like it for a bit of a laugh is decidely different. i love this country and would never dream of going home. but, that's because i've made a normal life for myself here. i have an excellent job (actually 2) that nearly pays american level wages and good friends who also work at good jobs. i have many thai friends who know little or nothing of the bar scene. i am friends with dozens of regular thai women (apart from my female students, who number in the hundreds) who are completely different than the girls most foreigners encounter at places like nep. this is why i sometimes get bent out of shape when punters here talk about thai girls when they mean bargirls, who in reality represent a relatively small percentage of thai womanhood and certainly aren't representative of them.
i'll admit that i am approaching geezer-status (i'm 53) and also that i am usually propped up by, or at least accompanied by one young lovely or other. but, i don't wear muscle shirts (even at the gym) or those shiny speedo shorts that allow your balls to hang out (yechhhhh!) or flip flops. i can still pull regular thai girls like this because i'm presentable, know how to talk to them and have status here. that counts far more than money.
this is a wonderful country, with great people and a fantastic lifestyle exclusive of the bar-scene. but, the problem is that many guys never get past that and wind up teetering on the edge of the abyss.

Sean_Double
01-31-06, 17:01
I'm just going to chime in here on the Biergarten. Its true that the core group of girls who "work" at the place are not the prettiest or the youngest in BKK, but there are a lot of girls who drop in occassionally needing money to pay their phone bill or whatever who can be pretty hot.

It IS sort of a zoo and it can be a fun place of great amusement just for that reason, you can make of it what you want. I've been bored there, had shitty times, met some of the wierdest people in the world, met very interesting travelers and expats, relaxed, contemplated my place in the universe, practiced Thai, gone with stretch mark queens, hardened ho's, regulars, part timers, and girls who've been in BKK one day and never slept with a farang. The one thing in common is that I've never gone there expecting too much; things just seem to happen.

When I'm in BKK I live on soi 11 so when I come home from work late in the afternoon its basically on my way and I stop in for a beer or an iced coffee at least a couple of times a week. Its always the same old, wierd place, but it seems to be subtly different each time I go there.

I certainly don't think its the kind of place to make as your focus of mongering time and attention, but its a hell of a fun place to go at four or five in the afternoon.

Cheers,
Sean

Duniawala
01-31-06, 17:14
Come on, OTH

That was not nice to say. I find the woman pretty ok, average looking and seems to have a good personality. She is far better looking than 90% of the pics posted here. But calling her ugly?

In your defense you claim that you cannot show pics of your ho's as they are Uni students. If you cannot show your definition of beauty, please do not put others down.

Peace. :D

Piper1
01-31-06, 17:33
Piper,

Always enjoyed your intelligent and thought-provoking posts here and elsewhere. Would like to meet you some time (No, that is NOT a come-on).

Anyway, interesting take on BKK scene. From a viewpoint, I agree with you.
Cheers.
Crypton, you've stroked my fragile male ego, but I still won't go out with you. I'm way too expensive. ;) Looks like you've been around a few places and have some experience (Sydney! Anyone would think it was a hot place for mongering. From my experience, just as easy to get a freebie there, especially the tourists after midnight).

A much-experienced ISG member PMd me today about BKK. His one-week plan is to be a bachelor-monger for a couple of days, and find a suitable TG to take him around some places in Thailand the next few days as a GF/guide/translater. Great idea. I may even do the same in June - would add that extra dimension.

cheers

Piper

Dinghy
01-31-06, 19:02
Piper - make sure you take a test drive before rental. SOME are cold starfish and you don't want to get saddled with them for more than "necessary"

Phantomtiger2
01-31-06, 20:01
Ive been to the Beer Garden and agree its all hit or miss--it was mostly miss when I went there for a few days.
I also dropped by the Gulliver Tavern when nobody nice was at the Garden, but didnt even notice any FL there during the afternoon, maybe they blended in with the regular people eating? is there a better time to visit this place for FL pickup--as perhaps I went too early?

PT

Coma Boy
01-31-06, 20:04
After 9pm.

Dinghy
01-31-06, 22:49
Piper - if you LIKED Nana/Suk area you will LOVE Pattaya - think Nana x100 - Sure, GrungThep (thai for BKK) has the size and to a great extent the "selection" but for pure "mongerability" you just can't beat Pattaya - cheaper, too (most everything is cheaper there - even cheaper still out in the "hinterlands" - but that takes "experience") Just 100B and 2.5 hours bus ride away...

Capt JB
02-01-06, 05:43
Come on, OTH

That was not nice to say. I find the woman pretty ok, average looking and seems to have a good personality. She is far better looking than 90% of the pics posted here. But calling her ugly?

In your defense you claim that you cannot show pics of your ho's as they are Uni students. If you cannot show your definition of beauty, please do not put others down.

Peace. :D

Thank you. Amen. To each his own but if he never ends up with one uglier than this one he will live a charmed life. LOL Hey, I found her there at noon and there was not too much competition that time of day. She was fun, good attitude, and very good at what she does so why not?

Coma Boy
02-01-06, 06:08
And after Pattaya you'll find more Bangkok hookers attractive.

Those who can't find customers in BKK due to looks/age/attitude/scent move to Pattaya.

KGB420
02-01-06, 13:14
So I just got back from BKK and a couple of things I thought I would mention.


Firstly had my first soapie at Annies. I had been told that they can be pretty cool and very enjoyable. Well went it was told it was 1,500 baht for 2 hours. So Im like fine blah blah lets get on with it. Then it comes to chosing a girl and all thats there is terrible and worse. Since I am in a fairly horney mood I choose one. I think her name was Ba. Anyway we go back to the room they start off with a bath in a hot tub. This is when she gives you the body to body massage....which lasted for a total of 47 seconds or there abouts. Then she dried me off and got me on the bed for some sucking. She did give me a quick massage(a really pathetic one too) She did not offer sex and as the time went on I was kinda not wanting it from her either. So after a few minutes on the bed I was done and that was it. The problem as I saw it was that only 47 minutes had elapsed. I couldnt care less! I just look at it as a bad experience and will never waste my time in that establishment again.


Now to the best part!

E D E N!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow made my first trip to Eden on Monday. Now it was really awesome. What everybody says is true. So basically I go there at 2pm in the afternoon and dude there tells me they are really busy but there are a few so I grab a couple. So we proceed to the love motel and after a quick shower they proceeded to give the big guy 90 minutes of uninterupted attention. The most important thing was the girls had an awesome attitude and were really cool. They werent stunners but there attitude was so good that it really didnt matter.

The funniest thing happened after I walked out. I ran into this Tuk Tuk guy at Soi 8 (asking me for the 5th day in a row) asking me if I want some girl action and I just state that I just finished He asks where I was and my response was a fist pumping YA!!!! He said oh you were at Eden. I just started to howl after that.


So definately head to Eden.........It really does rule!

Kuber
02-01-06, 16:14
So.. Here's my plan for a day in BKK. Please your inputs needed to refine.

1:00pm stat with massage at Akane (3 girls-fashion massage). Then take a subway to Kwan Way station (Rachda road). That is where I am confused. Should I go to Poseidon, Emanuelle or Nataree. I like soapie but also like to try a model-type this time. Do models do soapies. Do all thee have all tyhe option. If I were to try two places which one should I choose. Heard about all of them (both good and bad..).

Then I plan to try eith subway or head to Nana for some fun. Should I try to fit in Pegasus? Round off the day with another round at Akane. What do you think?. Plannning to stay at Intercontinental in Chitlom.

Your suggestion would be very useful to maximize my mongering experience.

Kuber

Phantomtiger2
02-01-06, 23:57
Piper - if you LIKED Nana/Suk area you will LOVE Pattaya - think Nana x100 - Sure, GrungThep (thai for BKK) has the size and to a great extent the "selection" but for pure "mongerability" you just can't beat Pattaya - cheaper, too (most everything is cheaper there - even cheaper still out in the "hinterlands" - but that takes "experience") Just 100B and 2.5 hours bus ride away...



Just curious as to which "hinterlands" U were referring to bacause isn't taking a 2.5hr bus ride at about 100b will bring U right back to BKK? ha ha

PT

Retired Army
02-02-06, 00:14
So.. Here's my plan for a day in BKK. Please your inputs needed to refine.

1:00pm stat with massage at Akane (3 girls-fashion massage). Then take a subway to Kwan Way station (Rachda road). That is where I am confused. Should I go to Poseidon, Emanuelle or Nataree. I like soapie but also like to try a model-type this time. Do models do soapies. Do all thee have all tyhe option. If I were to try two places which one should I choose. Heard about all of them (both good and bad..).

Then I plan to try eith subway or head to Nana for some fun. Should I try to fit in Pegasus? Round off the day with another round at Akane. What do you think?. Plannning to stay at Intercontinental in Chitlom.

Your suggestion would be very useful to maximize my mongering experience.

Kuber

With the itinerary you propose, you are either Superman or just one hell of a stud. If you find the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak, you can buy Viagara, Cialias or Levitra without a prescription at just about any drugstore in Bangkok.

Retired Army
02-02-06, 00:25
I read your reports and must say that your observations are usually "right on target." Especially about "tourists" who think that a "long-in-the-tooth" girl from the Soi 7 Beer Garden is the most beautiful thing they have ever seen. I also agree with your assessment about meeting and dating non-bar type girls. I have been saying the same as you: you aren't going to find a quality girl on a two week vacation hanging around Sukhumvit.

Thank you for the informative reports.

Dinghy
02-02-06, 02:56
Oh, maybe Korat (to start - but not too "hinter") otherwise Pilok, Sukhothai, Buriram, Surin to name a few of the larger Nakhon out there. You would need "pood Thai dai nit noi", though. Pattaya a "hinterland"? Sure, in the next life (not this one, that's for sure) Sure, bai 100B, bai-ma 100B. It's not all that bad, but stunners are few and afar between and usually out of my "budget" range.

As CB says - the better lookers ply their trade in Grungthep ๆ. Better earning potential - just that it takes farang a while to get to know the city of angels and I don't seem to have either the time or the patience.

Kuber - RA is correct - either you are "superman" or you will need a SERIOUS amount of "chemical enhancement assistance" (ah, would that I could perform to that level...)

1Ball
02-02-06, 12:25
Many of you know the restaurant on the corner of soi 15 and Suk. They have great duck there. Well it seems they have gone upscale, as I went there for a bite at lunchtime today, and was turned away. " COME BACK 2 HOUR, FULLY BOOKED". There had to be 1/2 dozen empty tables, but many people were being turned away.
Ahhhhh, the signs of success !

JuiceSpike
02-02-06, 12:36
1ball,

I think you mean the outdoor restaurant on soi 16 and Suk, right? The one a group of us went to eat before? I love that place. Food is always good and it a great place to eat on the run... I have been there before when it was packed and had to wait. Avoid peak hours.

juices

1Ball
02-02-06, 12:44
Actually Juice, this is a different one. The one you are talking about is on the other side of Suk. Don't know if you have been there since the last time you and I ate there, but I was there a few nights ago, and I think it is now mentionned in LP, and worse, the "guide du routard". Packed with people, and the service would have to improve to be just bad. Got to find a new "local". Any ideas ?
the place I am talking about is on the same side of the street as the Westin, and GP.

JuiceSpike
02-02-06, 12:54
1ball,

I see. If that place is on the LP that explains the large groups of people packing the place... Sorry, no ideas of new places.

juices

Duniawala
02-02-06, 16:50
the place I am talking about is on the same side of the street as the Westin, and GP.

I believe the place is called Young Lee. It has been there for ages according to all the yellowed newspaper articles on the wall. One of my favorite places. Every dish is 100B and the duck is great. It's usually packed but if you hang around a table opens up. You just go and grab the table. I am surprised that you were turned away.

The old guy is the owner and he is very strict about his closing time. He closes at 3 pm and opens back at 5 pm for dinner. Soit is possible you went at around 3 pm and he told you to come back in 2 hrs.

BTW the Robinsons Food Court (in basement) has decent food and can't be beat for the price. You can have a good meal for under 100B including soda and dessert.

Irish Lad
02-02-06, 17:45
Hello all,

Passed through Bangkok recently en route to Sydney from Dubai. Many thanks to those who suggested the J W Marriott. Nice place!

Due to a 5 hour delay, I only arrived at my hotel just after midnight. I didn't realise that 1am was the curfew so I only had time for a quick look in the Nana complex before it shut. Headed over to the CM2 disco in Novotel and after a brief chat with some Russian girls I did a deal with a girl called 'O". Agreed 3,000 for LT to include OWO and CIM. I left the money on the desk and said she could take it as she left in the morning. No problems back at the hotel and after a nice massage, O began OWO which finished as CIM.
I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes........O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her.
I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.
I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.

The next day I was "roomless" as checkout time was 12 and my flight was at about 8pm so an afternoon visit to Eden was a natural choice. I know it has been reported so often but I feel it my duty to recommend this place. I chose "pow" from the left who chose "wow" from the right. Both girls were very friendly and between shots I got a manicure then a pedicure from "pow" while I received a nice massage from "wow".

For a simple, hassle free service where you get what you expect, this has to score highly.

After Eden I passed some time away in Beer garden around the corner. Out of 50+ girls there in the afternoon I must admit that only 3 were attractive in my opinion and 2 were stunners. I hope to report on them after my return visit next week.

Jaimito Cartero
02-02-06, 21:57
That's why I would always negotiate a ST and LT rate. I've never found the need to pay upfront (leaving on table, etc) for independants in Thailand. By holding the money, you're going to make sure she delivers, or you pay her for what you actually got. I'd say 1000 for ST is normal the last time I was in Bangkok (8 months ago).

As for the JW Marriott, I'd always ask for a late checkout. I'm not sure if they willl give you more than an hour or two for free, but it can help some. It's also one reason why it's good to be in a hotel frequent stay program. Some hotels will give you a 4pm or even 6pm checkout. (I've done this in Brazil to 6pm, not sure what the standard is in BKK)


Hello all,

Passed through Bangkok recently en route to Sydney from Dubai. Many thanks to those who suggested the J W Marriott. Nice place!

Due to a 5 hour delay, I only arrived at my hotel just after midnight. I didn't realise that 1am was the curfew so I only had time for a quick look in the Nana complex before it shut. Headed over to the CM2 disco in Novotel and after a brief chat with some Russian girls I did a deal with a girl called 'O". Agreed 3,000 for LT to include OWO and CIM. I left the money on the desk and said she could take it as she left in the morning. No problems back at the hotel and after a nice massage, O began OWO which finished as CIM.
I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes........O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her.
I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.
I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.

The next day I was "roomless" as checkout time was 12 and my flight was at about 8pm so an afternoon visit to Eden was a natural choice. I know it has been reported so often but I feel it my duty to recommend this place. I chose "pow" from the left who chose "wow" from the right. Both girls were very friendly and between shots I got a manicure then a pedicure from "pow" while I received a nice massage from "wow".

For a simple, hassle free service where you get what you expect, this has to score highly.

After Eden I passed some time away in Beer garden around the corner. Out of 50+ girls there in the afternoon I must admit that only 3 were attractive in my opinion and 2 were stunners. I hope to report on them after my return visit next week.

Flood800
02-03-06, 00:20
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello all,
. I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes. O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her. I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.

I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.

.................

If you staying in places like JW Marriott or similar, just leave the money in the in-room safe. As the girl normally go to the bathroom to shower or doing whatever before she leave, that is the time to get money out the safe, if she stay for short time pay her ST. Most of them will try something, but if you hold on to your money then you are in 'control'.

JW Marriott will give regulars or Marriott card holders late check out until 4pm, and if the hotel is not full until 6 pm. As with everything in LOS, a nice smile to the person at the front desk does wonders.

1Ball
02-03-06, 02:22
Duni, I walked in there at noon. lots of empty tables, and I, along with a bunch of local Thai office worker types, were told to leave, as the place was "fully booked".

Coma Boy
02-03-06, 06:35
Partied in Patpong late last night, was amused/interested to discover a couple of bars make you sign for every drink you buy.

Apparently customers never believe how many drinks they bought, and trouble ensues. This is a good idea I guess.

Naturally, I drew obscene sketches instead of signing.

Desmond Wolf
02-03-06, 16:34
this sunday, and although this site is obviously a godsend and it isn't my firt time in BKK, in a way there's just too much information to digest properly, especially for someone like myself who is a little bit gree behind the ears when it comes to this sort of thing.

One thing I'd like everyone's advice on: without sounding arrogant I'm 31 years old and have never had any problems finding girls in the west, but just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?

Would you recommend I visit regular bars, or will I just end up meeting a bar girl on her day off ? Is it simply your a ***** and you go with farangs or your a good girl and you wouldn't be seen dead with one as Thai society would label you a prostitute ?

I'd love to do the go-go bars etc, but I must admit that the thought that I might be the 10th customer of the week is a big turn off - when I'm a bit older no doubt I'll adapt, but now it is an issue.

Lastly, where are the best place to meet these girls ( if they exist ) and if anyone has a free evening next week and fancies a drinking partner for the night...

I'll post up my adventures once in BKK, look forward to your responces.

PosterLion
02-04-06, 03:37
Partied in Patpong late last night, was amused/interested to discover a couple of bars make you sign for every drink you buy.

Interesting to hear of you in Patpong. I was there about four days ago and had the same thing happen to me. I just signed with an X like an illiterate pirate. ;)

Was this at a go-go bar? It was for me. I didn't take anyone that night, although I wanted to. The girl I was interested in got scooped up by a Japanese guy that must have been winking harder and longer than me. Oh well...

poster

Tiger 888
02-04-06, 03:59
I think the reason might have been that the Japanese have a few more zeros at the end of the numbers on their banknotes.

Coma Boy
02-04-06, 04:53
Was this at a go-go bar? It was for me.Happened in both a go-go bar, and in a normalish bar-ish sort of bar.

Angus Magee
02-04-06, 08:03
this sunday, and although this site is obviously a godsend and it isn't my firt time in BKK, in a way there's just too much information to digest properly, especially for someone like myself who is a little bit gree behind the ears when it comes to this sort of thing.

One thing I'd like everyone's advice on: without sounding arrogant I'm 31 years old and have never had any problems finding girls in the west, but just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?

Would you recommend I visit regular bars, or will I just end up meeting a bar girl on her day off ? Is it simply your a ***** and you go with farangs or your a good girl and you wouldn't be seen dead with one as Thai society would label you a prostitute ?

I'd love to do the go-go bars etc, but I must admit that the thought that I might be the 10th customer of the week is a big turn off - when I'm a bit older no doubt I'll adapt, but now it is an issue.

Lastly, where are the best place to meet these girls ( if they exist ) and if anyone has a free evening next week and fancies a drinking partner for the night...

I'll post up my adventures once in BKK, look forward to your responces.

This has been discussed endlessly both here and in the photo section. Start searching-RTFT

You are going to Thailand. You will likely be the 10th or even the 20th customer often. Get over it or find a nice virgin & setttle down.

Poupard2000
02-04-06, 09:48
When I have discovered the night life of Bangkok four years ago, Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) was described as a more authentic place with local connoisseurs and with a better service than Patpong which was seen as a trap for tourists providing a poor service at an high price.

Recently some of my swiss friends have help me to reconsider this evaluation:

- The girls seems often more expansive in NEP (2000 ST no LT or 4000) than in Patpong (1500 ST and 2500/3000 LT).

- Same for the barfine (500 in Patpong against 600 in NEP).

- The NEP is often packed with Japanese which are pushing the prices up.

- and the average quality of the service provided was much better in Patpong than in NEP.

... I do not want to set rules from my personal experience but Patpong worth a visit... and NEP seems overevaluated.

I recommand Camelot and King's Corner (beware for katoey)

Ralph Kramden
02-04-06, 14:01
Desmond Wolf,

Here is how you meet your dream girl in LOS as a Sex tourist:

1) Jack-Off before you go to sleep.

2) Have pleasant dreams.

Otherwise RTFF.

The Traveler
02-04-06, 14:17
Poupard2000,

NEP is of course a tourist trap, just like Patpong, Soi Cowboy and similar places. They are there for the tourists, not for the locals. Thais go to other places that are often even more expensive. Why not visit the clubs at Thong Lor or the discos at RCA and Ratchada Soi 4 if you don't like to be ripped off. You can score very cute girls there but not as easy as in the tourists traps.

The Traveler
02-04-06, 14:36
Desmond Wolf,

ask yourself this question :
Why should any "good girl" go shagging a sex tourist - no matter how good he looks like - who will be there only for a couple of days and might not come back ?

Sure, there are a few out there who are looking for one night stands but that's not the norm and rather a lucky draw. Regulars and university girls can be had, but you will need some time before you can score. I find it quite easy to get laid with non P4P but expect to go home alone for a couple of days. But opposite to you I speak Thai fluently which alone is a sign for the girls that I spend a lot of time in LOS. Also dress well but not exaggerated and behave well. Don't forget, attitude is the key. Being good looking might be of help but who wants to spend some time with a handsome asshole or moron ? Furthermore you would wonder who is considered being good looking by many Thais, so you aren't the only one.

Coma Boy
02-04-06, 15:07
dude, you really don't want to meet a good-girl, unless of course your turn-ons include monogamy, no premarital sex, no oral, no alcohol, and spending a lot of time with families.

instead go with naughty non-working girls. most thai girls who frequent farang clubs and drink alcohol are either this type or working girls pretending to be this type.

if you wanna date a student then make small talk with girls at mbk. if you want someone who's gonna put out then spot one with tattoos, smoking, and more than one cellphone.

as for **** girls, just remember with student skirts:

blue is a no, black is a go.

you'll have a lot more fun just playing and paying with the bad girls. once you've been here for a while you can pursue other options, to be honest though we're bad-boys, and we want bad-girls. men are dogs, we deserve bitches.

i generally find affairs with non-sluts quickly becomes complicated and emotional.

The Traveler
02-04-06, 15:46
I generally find affairs with non-sluts quickly becomes complicated and emotional.
Coma,

this sadly is very true, especially if you like some variety :(

Flood800
02-04-06, 16:16
Desmond Wolf,

Here is how you meet your dream girl in LOS as a Sex tourist:

1) Jack-Off before you go to sleep.

2) Have pleasant dreams.

Otherwise RTFF.But just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?[/QUOTE]


Ralph,

You may be a bit too hard on Desmond, after all he is just asking for advice :-)

Desmond,

Ralph is right, if you want a short time sexual relationship with a genuine Thai university girl, dream on. Yes, someone has done it, but it is like lottery winners; one hears about them. But if you really set your heart on a genuine Thai university girl, it’s not impossible, so long as you do some planning before hand. First, establish a friendship with a Thai, male, or better still, a respectable Thai family. Once they are convinced that your intentions are ‘honorable’ then they may find such a girl for you through family connection. That would be the easy bit! Next, you get to meet the girl (you have no choice of looks, high, build, language ability … ) the buffet lunch at JW Marriott would be a suitable venue, book a table for 12 – mother, brothers, sisters, grand ma (father would not appear at this stage) … After lunch they go their way and you go yours, alone. More such meetings will follow … Do you really want to go through all that? Why not come to the East just to enjoy the local pleasure that is readily on offer? As for you being the 10th customer; with some of the college girls in the West, you could be the 110th to put your dick in her! As for paying for sex, we always do! Unless your girlfriends pays for everything when you go out with her.

Have a look at the recent posts by the senior members, these are full of first class, useful advices. I agree with them that NEP is not the best place to go unless you are Japanese. Patpong is more fun, but that is just a personal choice. Soi Cowboy is similar in costs (different from bar to bar) but I don’t think the quality is as high as places such as Kings Castle II in Patpong.

There are a few girls in Kings Castle II who could pass as college girls, so for a little extra, they can be your university girl, lady doctor or even a female astronaut. The important point is enjoy, have fun and be safe (the girls from the King group of bars, especially in Kings Castle II, certainly seems cleaner than from some other bars).

Also try the disco in Nana Hotel, from 11pm there is some good pickings (of the paying kind)

Have fun!

R

Flood800
02-04-06, 16:49
No, its not a bargain, but a pitfall.

Picked her up in Cowboy, she was good fun in the bar (as you can see her looks was average, so I decided to go for personality!) , had a good time chatting and laughing, agreed on 1500Bt LT, including BBBJ, A and the works. She will stay until 8am or later. All agreed, I paid the 500 Bt bar fine, of we went to my hotel. But she stopped on the way to buy a backet of three comdoms. I told her that I got condoms, but she said that she want to buy her own to use for BJ and sex! That was the first hint of the trubles to come! When we got in the room, she said that she has to leave at 3am, as her mother does not know that she is doing this!!! So she cant stay out late! No BBBJ, she dont like A as my dick may be a bit too big so it will hurt. By that time I had just about enough so I gave her 200Bt for taxt (yes, I know it was too much and she will never take a taxi!) and put her out for the night. Luckily I still had time to go to Kings castle to get a very nice replacement.

Coma Boy
02-04-06, 16:58
I think Posterlion has the right idea- make a hooker your partner- an open relationship with no jealousy and no need for bullshit.

If I ever have to have a (another) relationship it'll be with some skanky skanky bisexual bad girl.

You can all gang-bang her on my wedding night while I do some bridesmaids.

PosterLion
02-05-06, 13:41
Dude, you really don't want to meet a good-girl... Instead go with naughty non-working girls. Most Thai girls who frequent Farang clubs and drink alcohol are either this type or working girls pretending to be this type.

I've been scouring match.co.th as of late. I mentioned the wealth of shaggables available via internet sluething, yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.

Don't get me wrong, it's not instant gratification, but it never fails to gratify for those with the virtue of patience. I am thinking that tonight is going to be the night! Yeah!

A lady that first wrote to me sent me an invite to meet her and three of her friends on Sukhumvit for a drink. After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"

I smiled as I replied back to her in the affirmative.

Now I'm off!

Wish me luck fellas... :)

poster

Terry Terrier
02-05-06, 13:50
I've been scouring match.co.th as of late. I mentioned the wealth of shaggables available via internet sluething, yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.

Don't get me wrong, it's not instant gratification, but it never fails to gratify for those with the virtue of patience. I am thinking that tonight is going to be the night! Yeah!

A lady that first wrote to me sent me an invite to meet her and three of her friends on Sukhumvit for a drink. After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"

I smiled as I replied back to her in the affirmative.

Now I'm off!

We me luck fellas... :)

poster


The 'soft touch' :-)

Coma Boy
02-05-06, 14:02
...yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.

After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"Dude, if she's suggested Gullivers then you're just meeting a bar-girl.

I tried those methods for a while, had fun, but the novelty soon wears off.

You don't think "many are plying this particular trade". Check the stats on those sites, guys outnumber girls fifty to one.

The Traveler
02-06-06, 00:11
...After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"...

Poster,

no "good" girl wants to be even seen dead at Gullivers, in case they even know the place at all. The "good" girls I have met rather preferred places like the cocktail lounge at the Landmark, the bar on top of the Banyan Tree or any of the malls like Emporium.

Old Thai Hand
02-06-06, 02:03
Richard2002

I used to believe as you do about the process of dating a "genuine Thai university girl" and indeed that was likely more true even 5 years ago. It's probably still true to a large extent up-country, but not in Bangkok.

Your description of the process of finding a "genuine Thai university girl" really doesn't apply that much anymore except to extremely HiSo and some old-family MidSo girls and even those are available much more easily than the past, especially to young Farang dudes. I'm around hundreds of these girls every day and am up-to-date as to what the current trends are among them. With more international programs, many are able to speak English and therefore feel more comfortable speaking with Farang. This, in itself is a major change from a few years ago.

I know of a least a few of my students who go to Khao San Road on a regular basis. Others go at least occasionally. They are all stinking rich Thai-Chinese who like slumming with young Farang backpackers. I know from what they tell me that they like to go dancing, including even at Gulliver's on Khao San. Their parents don't know they do this, and in fact, the girls often take two sets of clothes with them. They leave the house dressed very politely, then go somewhere and put on sexy clothes before going out. They usually travel in packs of 3 or more. You will never meet one who is alone. I wouldn't however say that hundreds or even dozens and dozens of uni girls do this, yet. But, there are more and more uni girls going to Khao San, even from the better universities.
However, the main venues for the "good" university girls are Ekkamai around soi 13-15, Thonglor soi 10, Rachada soi 4 and even RCA, although not so much anymore.
Also, as I have often stated, there are university girls from lower level unis who are not HiSo and therefore more readily available to Farang.
I should stress though, that it is unlikely that you can score on a first night with a Thai university girl. Few, if any are looking for a one-night stand, especially with a Farang. If they are interested in a Farang, it's because they are looking for a Farang BF, not a sex partner. They are curious about Farang and/or they are sick of Thai guys because of the fact that Thai guys are domineering and play around a lot. It still takes a bit of work and usually multiple dates before you can score. However, since Desmond is 31 and I assume from his comments reasonably presentable, even without speaking Thai, he might have a chance to at least meet one of these girls and go out with her.
Having said all of that, if one is only here for a 2-week holiday, it is far less likely that you could get a girl like this, unless you are willing to only concentrate on her for your entire holiday and manage to luck out near the end of it and shag her.
But, why waste the effort on one? If you have limited time stick to the P4P scene. It will be a much more rewarding a holiday.

Flood800
02-06-06, 02:58
Richard2002

I used to believe as you do about the process of dating a "genuine Thai university girl" and indeed that was likely more true even 5 years ago. It's probably still true to a large extent up-country, but not in Bangkok.Old ThaiHands,

Thanks for the interesting insight how the Thai society has changed. I bow to your experience, useful tips for the newbies. But I also like to give a word of advice, its still not as easy and as quick as get girls from the more usual ‘outlets’ in Bangkok. And if you are 40 or over like me, then for get it. I have chatted to some of the Thai-Chinese you mentioned, of both sexes (yes, the said male also on the look out for farang girls), most of them are top quality, but with more money then they know what to do with, they are out looking for youth and size! After all, farangs are to certain extent, novelty, and a trophy of a sort. When you want a change from the every Thai food the family cook serves up, go out and try roast ribs of beef! For the young guns, do give a go and post a few FR. For the old ones like me, I stick to paying for it via the more direct route (the indirect route being paying for it through wine, dine and discos): BF and cash in hand to the ladies of the night.

More similar insights are most welcome.

Richard

PosterLion
02-06-06, 11:00
Hey TT and CB,

While I do realize you chaps have been in Thailand longer than me and I'm also aware that both of you speak Thai far far better than I probably ever will, your "stereotype colored glasses" are beginning to limit your potential. In other words, your "dogmatic mind frame" is muting your vision and creativity which will only hinder your thinking ability more as you allow yourself to become "set in your ways."

I find this all the more fascinating because at 43 years of age I am physically older than either of you, yet it seems my mental pathways function at a much younger level than your own. OTH has also reported that normal Thai girls frequent Gulliver's because of their interests and fascinations. I merely reference OTH's reports to show that I am not the lone witness to this phenomenon. However, I need not reference OTH's work to validate mine because my work can stand on its own.

The reasons that give my work it's ground breaking nature are few, but they are of vital importance. For me, the essential ingredient that allows me to cut through and break most stereotypes is "magic." Yes that's correct, I am in possession of a certain magic that is simply unavailable to most mortals. It is the "magic of unlearning" and it is the reason why I see possibilities when most people see dogmas.

I do not feel that I am criticizing either of you. In fact, I am trying to help you open your eyes before you inadvertently glue them shut. I recommend that you learn the magic of unlearning, because vision is a wonderful thing and much more so when the vision is clear.

I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that none of these girls are working girls. The lady that invited me to drinks is a creative designer. I am in possession of the business card she proudly handed me when I asked about her employment. It is quite a nice card and the name of her company is "O PLUS DESIGN".

I was hoping they'd be bad girls, but they were not bad girls at all. In fact, they were far too good for my taste. After our dinners were complete I made an apologetic and hasty exit. I am in Coma's camp concerning Thai ladies. Bad girls are better! :)

I've met quite a few Thai women from the internet and none of them (except for one) were "working girls." I've met girls that worked at TOT, KSC, and many other well known places in Thailand. The girl from KSC even took me on a tour at her office and then gave me some free corporate t-shirts for my wardrobe. I've met girls that have picked me up in their cars and such what. However, I also know some "working girls" that own cars because they are so stinking successful at what they do.

The list goes on and on and my advice remains the same: learn the magic of unlearning. ;)

===

Oh yeah! I forgot to tell you guys how I salvaged my night. I bumped into a working girl I’ve known for about three months, but hadn’t seen for almost one month. It turns out she’d been working in Pattaya with an English chap that is now in love with her. He’s gone so far as to buy a wedding ring and he’s also been to meet the family. She kept mentioning this guy and the fact that he is in love with her for the rest of the night. I think she was attempting to make me jealous. Whenever she would talk about him I would look at her with an expression of complete sincerity, as if I were hanging on her every word, hoping that I could in some way be of help.

Finally at the end of the night, when we were about the go to sleep, she told me that this man also took her and her mom to Pattaya for two days. I look at her with the same sincere look I’d been using all night and said, “So you and your mom and your fiancee went to Pattaya na?”

Then she repeated me as follows, “Yeah, we all went to Pattaya. Me and my Mom and my cack.”

We both laughed for a long time. Then we went to sleep. ;)

poster

JuiceSpike
02-06-06, 15:10
Hmm. I have hangout at Gullivers with Thai film and andvertising people before who had nothing to do with prostitution. We sat outside for an early dinner/drinks and they were aware of the "bad girls" going inside and only smirk and basically ignore it.

For those of you who don't know, on the same soi Gallivers is located there are some nice condos down the street and you will see regular women walking home and ignoring the hookers and drolling farangs.

Now, if you go late at night to Gallivers you will mostly find hookers, wannabe hookers and the so called "good girls" willing to rent out their pussies for cash.

The great think about some areas of Suk is the mix of cultures: hookers, Thai professionals and foreigners of all types.

juices

The Traveler
02-07-06, 01:29
Poster,

hope you noted that I was talking about the real "good" girls and OTH about the nasty ones of the "good" girls.

I have met and scored many regular girls who work in an office or anything similar. Some were wealthy, some weren't, some owned a car, some didn't. But that all doesn't mean anything as long as you don't know what they are up for and believe me, not all are "good" girls even though the first impression might hint to it.

OTH got it right, most of them are looking for a BF or rather a sugardaddy than just sex. So I am not surprised that the girl didn't allow you more than just shaking hands. It's part of the game to check you out and having a bit patience can be very rewarding if you know how to play the game.

The nice thing about regulars is, that they are busy during daytime, which will give you enough time to be a nasty guy during day and being a "good" guy in the evening. Since many get up early and don't stay out too late during working days you will also have lots of time to turn into your nasty mode late at night again. It did that many times and it gives me the possibility to be patient until they will stay over night at my place.

Give it a try. This isn't just lots of fun as the girls usually like to party and show you places you would never have gone by yourself. They also often have nice friends, which can either be scored later on or will introduce you to even more people.

PosterLion
02-07-06, 06:02
hope you noted that I was talking about the real "good" girls and OTH about the nasty ones of the "good" girls.

I just might try it as you say, but I'll wait for a girl that I think is worth the effort and the inconvenience. None of the girls from last night had what I consider "the goods.", to make me want to risk another relationship. After all, I've been in two of those already! :)

I noticed you were talking about the real "good" girls. I just have to give you a check now and again. It's good for ya. lol

poster

Old Thai Hand
02-07-06, 08:02
Traveler

The "real" good girls are usually boring and once they've committed are fucking hard to shake, if you change your mind (re: Poster's and my report in Thai Women...).
But, I also think that the "real" good girl in Thailand is becoming increasingly an illusion fostered by the older generation, legislated by the anachronistic old farts in the Thai government and paid lip-service to by their obedient children. It's not, as one dreamer suggested that Thai girls are having 3 or 4 Gigs at the same time as there regular approved Thai BF. But, they are becoming just more "normal" ( by our Western standards), going out to slightly risque places, wearing sexy clothes in broad daylight, even, drinking and smoking (not necessarily a good thing) and getting Farang BFs.
It's made life here a lot more enjoyable than it was 10 years ago, when if you wanted to date a regular girl you most likely had to commit your life immediately to her.

PosterLion
02-07-06, 08:39
...and getting Farang BFs.

My first Thai girlfriend (who I've reported on extensively), is what I might call a good girl with slutty tendencies or a stealth angel.

She told me (in 2004) that it's very trendy for a Thai girl to have a Farang boyfriend. A Farang boyfriend is like a fashion statement, much like the fake braces Coma and Juice were talking about.

Let's just hope the leaders of the Kingdom don't decide to outlaw Farang/Thai relationships along with the braces!

poster

Irish Lad
02-07-06, 11:31
Hello guys,

Thank you for the advice received following my recent report. I am back again in Bangkok and things are much better this time.

Went to NEP last night for a look at the action but felt the sales tactics to buy drinks for the girls too high for me. I much prefer the "night club" scene where chasing is all part of the fun. Went to Cm2 (again) but this time I had plenty of time to survey the scene. Too much time in fact as a few too many drinks were taken for maximum enjoyment. I'll never learn.

I had met an Australian guy earlier on who turned out to be in business with my best friends cousin!!!!!!!!!!!! Small world....He hooked up with would you believe a real sexy Colombian girl who he says was the best he ever had. She had wanted 8,000 LT but they agreed 4,000. She was with about 6/7 other girls from Colombia and 1 from Brazil. There were also a dozen or so girls from various parts of Russia wanting 6,000 LT and a few middle Eastern girls too.

I'm not mean by any way but as I consider these prices quite high considering the location etc I passed, and as I am in Thailand, I feel the local scene is the obvious route. I will be in Dubai in a few days and can revert to my Russian preferences then.

With time run out I caught a taxi back to the "Nana" locality but exited taxi when I saw a real "looker" walking out of Grace hotel disco. She was from Uzbekistan and wanted 3,500 for ST quickly falling to 2,000. Oral was to be covered so I passed. On the walk back to my hotel I met a Thai girl called "Kwai"???? who ticked all the boxes. OWO, Greek and Rimming. We agreed 1,500 for 2 hours. All services were provided and I would repeat but she doesn't have a mobile.

Irish Lad

Piper1
02-07-06, 13:02
IR - good work! Where is Cm2?

Maybe finally catch up in Dubai soon.

cheers

Piper
Hello guys,

Thank you for the advice received following my recent report. I am back again in Bangkok and things are much better this time....

Divine Baal
02-07-06, 14:57
IR - good work! Where is Cm2?

Maybe finally catch up in Dubai soon.

cheers

PiperConcept CM2 Bangkok, Novotel Hotel, Siam Square.

Url: http://www.cm2bkk.com/home.asp

Old Thai Hand
02-07-06, 15:24
Poster

There are certainly many anti-Farang feelings among the powers that be. So, who knows? Maybe they will outlaw Thai/Farang relationships. They certainly don't make staying here any easier even if you marry a Thai girl. Still 90 day reporting, still visa runs, with Thanksin-sponsored exhorbitant fees. Before Thaksin, there was no 90-day reporting and 1-year visas could be had the same day for 1,100 baht. The guy's a real prick, as far as I'm concerned.

Lets hope the protests and the rising calls for Thaksin's resignation actually achieve something. But, I doubt it. Someone will probably have to 'off' the guy to get rid of him.

Of course the other frightening prospect is the King dying. His son has made it clear on several occasions he doesn't like Farang. So, it's anyones guess if, despite all the foreign money in this country, he doesn't try to do something when he becomes King. He is coming to visit where I work and the Farang ajarn have been told politely to basically stay out of sight. Lets' just say, he certainly isn't his father. (oh, oh...is my computer bugged? I've just committed "lessez Majeste")

Odin Man
02-07-06, 15:43
Woh,

I had to book a business trip, on really short notice. I am trying to make a reservation from Asiarooms.com, but they require at least 3 days in advance booking! (For any hotel)

I need to book from tomorrow evening, how do I do that? Find another website, og walk in and book a room at the counter? (I guess that would be more expensive...)

Kinda Nasty
02-07-06, 19:41
Woh,

I had to book a business trip, on really short notice. I am trying to make a reservation from Asiarooms.com, but they require at least 3 days in advance booking! (For any hotel)

I need to book from tomorrow evening, how do I do that? Find another website, og walk in and book a room at the counter? (I guess that would be more expensive...)Unless you're picky and need a 5 star with a business center, etc. just walk in, especially on Sukhumvit. There are tons of 3 and 4 star hotels there.

PosterLion
02-07-06, 22:07
Martin62,

Don't panic. You can book a hotel easily when you arrive Bangkok and it should not cost you more. If you want a budget deal, I've got one.

Tell the taxi to take you to Soi 22 (yee-sip-song). You want to go to Hotel 27. The rooms are 320 baht per night, every night. :)

I've never seen the place 100% full.

poster...

The Traveler
02-07-06, 23:08
The "real" good girls are usually boring and once they've committed are fucking hard to shake, if you change your mind ...
But, I also think that the "real" good girl in Thailand is becoming increasingly an illusion ...
OTH,

I know a handful of "real" good girls, all from wealthy and some from influentual families.
One for example is the daughter of a Brigadier General who owns a multi-million baht appartment at Suk, living there alone. She isn't boring at all, rather very funny, easy going, very smart, knows her way around and absolutely not spoiled. Sounds perfect, right ? Yep, but she isn't cute for me :(

She used to have a farang BF and called me to ask for advice (or maybe just to talk to a friend) whenever problems occured. She kicked this guy out very fast when he started to cheat on her. He was a prick. So she doesn't fit into your description.

I guess it's mostly a question of what they see in you. I do prefer to be their friend instead of shagging any of them. Friendship last longer than a short relationship and contains less problems. If a girl is looking for a sugardaddy (not the wealthy ones of course) or if she really loves you, it will be hard to get rid of her, but otherwise no big deal. Therefore no real difference between a good and a bad girl.

Old Thai Hand
02-08-06, 01:16
Traveler

HiSo doesn't necessarily mean that the girl is a "real" good girl. I've known plenty of HiSo sluts. In fact, in the the non P4P scene, I'd say that a lot of the party girls are HiSo or near HiSo. One of my favorite pseudo good girls used to be a presenter on MTV. This girl is constantly in some romantic crisis or other and I finally figured out that she maintains her good-girl status by only shagging guys she falls in love with. The problem is, she falls in love with every guy she shags. Hence, she's a ****, but manages to cover it up by saying that it's love, not just sex.

I've probably met more "real" good girls who were upcountry Isaan or Southern girls. They tend to hold to more traditional Thai values and therefore are probably not going to shag you until you marry them. This is especially true of Southern Thai girls. They are really hard nuts to crack. I once tried the "Thai way" and dated a girl from Nakhon si Thammarat for six months without even kissing her. By the time she finally was willing to shag me (out of desperation because she knew I was going to bail on her), I had totally lost interest. She was a real bore and quite stupid, despite her university education.

Any Thai girl who tells you she's a good girl, probably isn't, in my experience. They do like to maintain the illusion because of the culture which still demands, at least in theory that a girl be a virgin when she marries.

Meaty
02-08-06, 04:04
its friday night, and we're off. friday is one of the worst days to bother going into town from where i live, it'll take at least an hour and half, so we decide to stay local (seacon square area).

first stop taxi to hooters, nothing like the western version, 10pm, the place is empty, couple of welcome girls outside, nothing special (apart from the cowboy hats they are wearing) we are told 1,800 to take her to a hotel, appears all in. had a few beers and left, went into a big thai massage place next door, mp was small and had 2 old fat gals only, didn't ask the price.
crossed over to whats up bar, katoey welcomes you (bloody ugly one too) live band, typical thai mid range, small disco bar, we order a bottle of whiskey and decide to lubricate the joints for a while. the locals were very freindly, all the usual freindliness, no p4p of course, perhaps a couple of freebies, but why bother, p4p is so much easier.

kick out is 1am, a group of thai lads we were talkin too ask us if we want ladies, only 700 baht everything, duh ! they have bikes, we grab a taxi and follow, we end up at a hospital down the side of sam rong shopping centre on sukhumvit, we get out the cab and enquire, turns out on of there mates who had left a little earlier had come off his bike and was in here, we made our excuses and left.

back in a taxi we headed to soi lasanne (from sukhumvit end) there are several karaoke joints here, they all appeared closed except one, we entered, couple of nice girls on the front, but not interested in us (probably why they work in a thai karaoke bar and not nana!) we have a beer and then leave, all very freindly.

our taxi driver then advises us he can take us to where there are ladies, i ask where, he says theparak road, its very close to where we are so off we go. we are on the stretch of theperak between srinakarin and sukhumvit, very close to the sukhumvit end, heading in the direction of srinakarin, we pull over, there are at least 5 thai guys hanging around on the road, everything feels good, no strange looks or movements, we jump out and follow one of the guys, we are led between almost closed stell shutters, through a shop of some kind and into a back room (please note at this point, i don't recomend this ever, but there was nothing to suggest things were bad) in the back room were 3 woman (18yrs, 24yrs, 35yrs) nothing really special to look at, there was a well dressed lady, her english was perfect, kept calling me sir, she did the deal, 700 baht each including room. we grabbed 2 and exited. we were taken to a building down the side, looked more like your typical thai appartment block than a hotel. given 2 rooms, and left, i was asked to shower, no probs, i asked mine too as well, she refused, didn't want a shower, when i came out she was on the bed, shirt and bra still on, towel wrapped round her waist, i joined her, she pushed a condom on me, i moved my hand to release her breasts, was met with no, she then indicated for me to start pumping her, (question to myself here "what did i expect?") i ripped the condom off, chucked it on the floor, and stood up, she jumped up and in a flash had her jeans on and was gone. i knew what was next, the guys were going to be full on thinking i was going to get shirty and demand back the money, no such thinking. i left the room and knocked my mate up, he too was having the same trouble and getting dressed, the guys turn up behind me wanting to know what was so bad, i explained the girl was a waste of time, i changed my mind, but keep the money, no big deal, he relaxed, explained to his buddies what was going on and everything was smiles and fine. as we were leaving a girl exited a room and asked me if i wanted her for 100 baht, she looked good, but lady luck wasn't going to be around all night, so we left.
called that a night, but was looking forward to akane, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) & catherines tommorrow (see bangkok mp for fr)
in summary, its fun to mix with the locals out of town, although you need to understand what is going down all of the time, for p4p, stick to the farrang scene, mp's or at least real establishments, steer clear of dodgy undergraound places like the above, not because its dangerous, but because you're not going to get what you want anyway.

Spokane Boy
02-08-06, 04:59
I cant find any maps of NEP with this place "schoolgirl" can anyone help. Also been reading posts saying that it may be soon against the law to date thai girl. Is this true what the heck is going on?

Coma Boy
02-08-06, 21:05
Also been reading posts saying that it may be soon against the law to date thai girl. Is this true what the heck is going on?Yeah, from 1st March, Thai-Farang relationships will be outlawed.

The punishment is death.

JuiceSpike
02-08-06, 21:36
Yes, coma boy is right but he got the date wrong: effective immediately all farang/Thai relationships are illegal. The punishment is death but if you send 1 million baht to juicespike you can avoid death and for an additional 500,000 baht he can get you out of trouble completely. Guaranteed.

PM juicespike for more info.

juices

The Traveler
02-08-06, 21:50
HiSo doesn't necessarily mean that the girl is a "real" good girl.

OTH,

I have never said that HiSo equals or implies being a "good" girl. I just said, that these specific girls are wealthy as well but not spoiled or boring, and yes, a few are HiSo. I do know that many HiSo girls "enjoy" their freedom and wealth and do what they like to do. There aren't many limits as long as their parents don't know what they really do. But these were "real good" girls, due to education, tradition, belief, you name it. I don't rate it, in fact I do prefer the nasty ones, but it is nice to have them around.

The girl I was talking about told me - of course I can't verify it - that she didn't allow her BF (the one she kicked out) to penetrate her because her parents expect her to be a virgin when getting married. Maybe she provided some anal, but I doubt it cause she made some hidden comments which made me believe she only gave head. She must have been very good at it, everyday practice :)
Guess the guy wanted more and therefore started to fuck around. But he was stupid and she found out very quick.

Interesting part of the story is, she met another guy a couple of months later and decided to leave the "virgin" track.

Old Thai Hand
02-09-06, 01:44
Traveler

Yes. I know you didn't say HiSo = good girl. I was just making a comment.

I recently met one of those illusive virgins. She is 32 and still quite hot (or maybe not, since my taste has been questioned of late...lol). We actually got into a major argument because she refused to acknowledge that she was somewhat of an atypical Thai girl to still be hanging onto "it" for so long. She said she still believed that most Thai girls were good girls and still virgins. She also stated that she and I could never even be friends because I had the wrong idea about Thai girls and Thai culture. I couldn't stop from laughing and by the time I had finished detailing a variety of experiences and stats, she was completely stunned. I think I must have got her all 'hot and bothered' with my stories because for months after that, she wouldn't stop calling and trying to go out with me again. She made it all too clear that she had decided that I was going to be the one to "de-flower' her. (I always liked that quaint term). But, I have a very strict rule about being the 'first'...never, under any circumstances. If you're the first with a Thai girl, especially one like that, you're doomed. You'll never get rid of her.
The last I heard, she was on her way to Singapore to meet some geriatric Aussie guy with a bit of a "Nice to meet you" and a 'dirty' weekend thrown in. He's already agreed to marry her afterwards...ya, sure. So much for good Thai girls...hahaha

Jaimito Cartero
02-09-06, 06:27
I was walking back from Gullivers last night to the Majestic Suites, and was just amazed at how crowded the street was. For years, I've seen 5-10 girls (and a few rats) in the two or three blocks on the way back, but with the 1am closing, it is hard to even walk through with all the sellers and tons of girls and Katoeys blocking the way.

I was glancing at some of them as I passed by, and noticed a guy in a conversation with a couple of ladies. One looked nice, the other nothing special. I heard the nice looking one say, "I ladyboy, you like?" to the guy, but didn't hear his response. It seems to be quite dangerous these days, and while many of these Katoeys are obvious, some aren't.

My room in the MS overlooks Nana, and when I got to my room at 1:10am, it was totally dark there.

Old Thai Hand
02-09-06, 07:51
This topic has been debated and discussed ad naseum and I just don't get the constant paranoia.

I don't want to get cocky (lol), but I've never, ever even remotely been fooled or in doubt about any katoey I ever saw. You can spot them a mile off. I've had them as students many times and just watching them walk in their uniforms, alone (yes they get to wear female uniforms) is a dead giveaway.

As amazing as the surgery has become, there are still some fundamentals that so far science cannot address.

The main one is the pelvis. Of all the bones, the pelvis shows the greatest male/female differences. The female pelvis is designed for childbirth. It is broad and shallow since the infant must pass through its bony openings at birth. The male pelvis is much heavier, denser and narrower than that of the female because it is designed for thrusting (aren't we all glad of that). The way a real woman walks (ie. hips from side to side) is largely due to the shape, flexibility and lightness of her pelvis (the hour-glass shape). In the same way, the relative density and heaviness of the male pelvis that gives us that boxy shape causes men's hips to be directed forward in movement rather than side to side like women. Therefore, katoeys over-compensate by immitating female walking which just doesn't come normally with their heavy male pelvis'. How they accomplish this, besides the exagerrated swinging of the hips from side to side is to do the 'model walk' placing one foot directly in front of the other rather than the normal way of walking for women which is slightly to the side and diagonally. Models are taught to walk one foot in front of the other to exagerrate hip movement which accentuates the clothes (in a former life I was a fashion photographer/videographer). Watch the fashion channel sometimes and you'll see what I mean.
Other aspects of katoeys such as a voice that sounds like they've been sucking down helium, their stature and physique which is generally taller and larger than almost any Thai woman I've ever seen and their fashion sense or lack thereof are other tell-tale signs. There are other things that are almost cliche. They primp and preen a lot that prompted a friend to quip that the easiest way to tell is to simply stick a mirror in front of them. They'll stop dead in their tracks like deer caught in headlights.
Lastly, one of the main things that probably newbies just wouldn't get is manners and behavior. Thai women are taught from birth a certain way to behave, speak and conduct themselves which becomes innate after awhile. These wannabe girls are still Thai guys inside and just have a different social and mental construct. Even if they're gay, they're still Thai men. When they 'come out' or 'really come out' by becoming katoey, then they just add in the gay behavior factor that just isn't anything like Thai women.

Coma Boy
02-09-06, 08:19
People only find katoeys hard to identify when they want to find them hard to identify.

Of those people who make "the mistake" very few actually made a mistake.

Jaimito Cartero
02-09-06, 14:42
This is also the reason why I like to talk to the person first and get a vibe for them, and not just pull someone from a dark street up to your room. No Gomer Pyle surprises, please. :)

Munchie
02-09-06, 19:52
Hi All,

These days I am pretty sure I would be able to tell the difference from looking at their face a body most of the time. However, when I first came to Thailand I was not so sure. If you have not had any experience of ladyboys you may not realise how pretty some of them can be - possibly more so than any female impersinator in the west!

Anyway below is a report I made in another forum in 2000 looking back I can hardly believe it!

Nearly 3 weeks later I'm back having been in KPG partying! I am not with my mate (whose not so keen on the scene) so I think I'll have another bash at the bargirl thing. Now I had taken some valium on the coach back from Surithani thats my excuse! (you know where I am going here! ) I have a drink in one of the open air bars (again soi cowboy I think) and this girl who is a bit taller than the others and with higher cheek bones starts chatting me up. She knows more english than the girl 3 weeks ago and so we are having a bit more of a laugh. Her friend who wasnt as foward as her looked on and when my girl went to the toilet she asked me if I really liked her? and seemed surpirsed when I said yes (you definately know where I am going with this one) anyway I walk off with my tall slim BG down Sukhumvit holding hands. Into my hotel. Id never done this before so again felt a bit shamed by the doorman and counter staff. Looking back they had the same puzzled look that smaller BG had! Up to my room. She sits on the bed. I dive in the shower, when I come out she is still sitting there with clothes on I ask her if she is going to shower and then she says it. Now despite the tone of this post I thought I had been around enough and would not be caught out. She says " I am not like other girls you know this don't you "? For f88ks sake I mean for F8888ks sake. I am like "oh shit sorry I've made a mistake can you go" and he / she is protesting that we can still have a good time and she will "smoke" me. In the end I manage to get her out of the door. I could barely face the hotel staff and I really couldnt believe Id got caught like that. I still blame the chang and the after effects of the valium.

Cheers

***chie

Bumsii
02-09-06, 23:33
Guys,

can you please advise on a daily basis which bars/clubs are best to go for on a:

Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday!

As I am coming from Jakarta here we have a lot of Ladies night where hotties are all over the place :)

Thanks for your support to have the perfect week with nonforgetable xxx chicas.

Kinda Nasty
02-10-06, 20:30
1. The most obvious is they are way more aggressive than natural born Thai girls. They'll immediately approach and proposition you. In general, most Thai girl free lancers show noticeably greater reserve.

2. Most of them are at least 6 inches taller than a Thai girl.

3. Their makeup seems almost professionally applied, to the point where if they were female they'd be stunners.

4. In addition to their aggressiveness, they often dress in extreme hooker getup, i.e. micro-minis, hotpants, etc. -- clothing more appropriate for a go-go bar and that a Thai girl would be way too shy to be seen in public wearing.

Traveler1234
02-10-06, 21:19
Guys,

can you please advise on a daily basis which bars/clubs are best to go for on a:

Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday!

As I am coming from Jakarta here we have a lot of Ladies night where hotties are all over the place :)

Thanks for your support to have the perfect week with nonforgetable xxx chicas.

Monday: Coma Boy
Tuesday: The Traveler
Wednesay: 1Ball (but watch out for ladyboys here)
Thursday: Piper1 (newly opened)
Friday: Meaty (best MP in all of LOS)
Saturday: RTFF - this is the best and hottest place in town anytime of the week.
Sunday: Reports of Distinction - also the best!

I'm landing in 10 days, and will check out for any other hotspots and PM to you!

My apologies if I left anyone out, not intentional... LOL

NoCBJ4Me
02-10-06, 23:12
Katoeys seem to have larger hands and feet. I like to I think I can tell the difference, but I have asked a waitress once about someone I saw in a bar. She told me thar "it" was a katoey. It looked very much a female, but something didn't seem right, so I asked. It was scary because "it" looked very femanine and had no Adams Apple visible.
Katoeys tend to exaggerate the swinging of their hips when walking - much more that a typical TG.
What's very scary is with improvements in plastic surgery and better acting on the Katoeys' part, will we be able to tell all the time?


1. The most obvious is they are way more aggressive than natural born Thai girls. They'll immediately approach and proposition you. In general, most Thai girl free lancers show noticeably greater reserve.

2. Most of them are at least 6 inches taller than a Thai girl.

3. Their makeup seems almost professionally applied, to the point where if they were female they'd be stunners.

4. In addition to their aggressiveness, they often dress in extreme hooker getup, i.e. micro-minis, hotpants, etc. -- clothing more appropriate for a go-go bar and that a Thai girl would be way too shy to be seen in public wearing.

Coma Boy
02-11-06, 08:05
Foolproof method: if her penis is larger than yours, she's a he.

For post-ops, the sniff test comes up fishy for a real girl.

Old Thai Hand
02-11-06, 10:31
The bigger hands and feet test isn't that full-proof. The Adam's apple check is passe as they remove it in the surgery, which partially accounts for Katoeys' rather Donald-Duck like voices. Height isn't always a key, either as there are lots of short, small Katoey's. Also, there are lot's of ugly Katoeys, but also many that would pass for pretty.
I think 'Kinda Nast' has a point in the aggressiveness, the professional make-up and the clothing.

But, honestly, if you know women and how they move and act, you should NEVER have any trouble telling the difference even with the best surgery in the world.

Bec26
02-11-06, 11:04
I have heard that a fool proof method to tell if "She" is indeed a "He" is that the vagina cannot get lubricated on its own. The person who had the operation must use KY gel or some other form of lubrication.

Can anyone verify this fact?

1Ball
02-11-06, 12:14
I have heard that a fool proof method to tell if "She" is indeed a "He" is that the vagina cannot get lubricated on its own. The person who had the operation must use KY gel or some other form of lubrication.

Can anyone verify this fact?

last time I was at Coma's appartment, UPS showed up with a case of KY, especially flown in for him. So, I guess the answer is yes.

Coma Boy
02-11-06, 15:10
1Ball - don't forget, we used a lot of that KY together. It isn't just for the katoeys.

Remember people, the bars are closed on Monday.

NoCBJ4Me
02-11-06, 15:35
Alcohol doesn't help with Katoey detection either. While hunting, I limit the booze a bit. I do agree with Kinda Nast on agressiveness and clothing setting them appart from the real deal.



The bigger hands and feet test isn't that full-proof. The Adam's apple check is passe as they remove it in the surgery, which partially accounts for Katoeys' rather Donald-Duck like voices. Height isn't always a key, either as there are lots of short, small Katoey's. Also, there are lot's of ugly Katoeys, but also many that would pass for pretty.
I think 'Kinda Nast' has a point in the aggressiveness, the professional make-up and the clothing.

But, honestly, if you know women and how they move and act, you should NEVER have any trouble telling the difference even with the best surgery in the world.

Noplobrem
02-12-06, 04:29
If you are unsure if the girl in question is a katoey let her see you scan her from head to toe. Next tell her that her body is ugly. A katoey will immediately show you her best asset, be it her ass, chest, legs, whatever. A real Thai girl will shrink in embarassment or walk away directly. Then you have the task of telling her that you were kidding and begin your courtship. If she starts showing you the assets just nod in agreement and move on...

Duniawala
02-12-06, 15:53
If you are unsure if the girl in question is a katoey let her see you scan her from head to toe. Next tell her that her body is ugly. A katoey will immediately show you her best asset, be it her ass, chest, legs, whatever. A real Thai girl will shrink in embarassment or walk away directly. Then you have the task of telling her that you were kidding and begin your courtship. If she starts showing you the assets just nod in agreement and move on...
WOW, what a way to get a girl to bang you. First you insult and then you want her to forgive you? I hope that was a tounge-in-cheek comment!

Why do you guys who are unsure just ask them straight out? Ask them politely/in jest and they will you.

The Traveler
02-13-06, 00:03
1Ball - don't forget, we used a lot of that KY together. It isn't just for the katoeys.

Coma,

I am very disappointed. Didn't you just declined my offer to bring some lubricant to your party ?
Remember, no pain, no gain !

The Traveler
02-13-06, 00:09
I wonder how guys who claim to have done women for years can't spot a katoey . Can't you feel that the person in front of you isn't a women ?

During all those years I only came across two katoeys where I wasn't sure if they were girls or katoeys, but as there was "something wrong" I at least had some doubts. So just asking them revealed that they were indeed katoeys. No big deal, so why such a big fuss about it ?

Hunter10
02-13-06, 01:10
Its getting harder to check for a Katoey. If the person has kept their family jewels then its easier. A post-op katoey is hard to tell. She has modern surgery and western drugs to help them in their conversion from a man to female. Sometimes you could tell by some imperfection of the body and face.

The tell tell sign that they were a man is getting harder. Some are taking drugs to make them feel and look more like a women. I saw several documentaries on katoey from discovery channel and Asian documentaries. Its kind of scary. One famous Katoey that became a female won several beauty pageants and became a famous model. He now she looks damn good.

There are exception to where you can't tell at all. I hope I didn't meet any post-op in one of my adventures in Thailand ?

In a katoey check if your in doubt move on. If its past that stage check for a package or you could go by gut instinct then Good luck.

If you want to be sure ask for Id and discover their sexual origin.

Have fun

Intransit
02-13-06, 04:14
When it comes to Katoeys, the "Ronin" Rule, from the Robert DeNiro film of the same name, applies: "When there is doubt, there is no doubt."

If you think for even a millisecond that the "woman" you're with is a guy, and you continue the transaction anyway, then you allowed yourself to go with a guy. Period. If there's any doubt, no matter how pretty "she" is, walk away. And if you can't tell, there's something wrong with you.

Piper1
02-13-06, 05:20
If you think for even a millisecond that the "woman" you're with is a guy, and you continue the transaction anyway, then you allowed yourself to go wtih a guy. Period.
Not sure I agree - I had a doubt about one girl I took to my room - luckily, it turned out she was a girl, as she had nice (but surprisingly firm) breasts. She had a big clitoris (about 5") but assured me this is normal in girls from her region.

Duniawala
02-13-06, 06:47
Not sure I agree - I had a doubt about one girl I took to my room - luckily, it turned out she was a girl, as she had nice (but surprisingly firm) breasts. She had a big clitoris (about 5") but assured me this is normal in girls from her region.
Could you clarify, please. Burumgrand region or Bangkok Hospital region?

:D

Coma Boy
02-13-06, 08:02
Didn't you just decline my offer to bring some lubricant to your party?Yes, but 1Ball enjoys being fisted.

Boy Toy
02-13-06, 10:05
does anyone have any idea where to get any russians in bangkok?phuket?

Blink157
02-13-06, 16:44
Hello to all,

Just read your posts about Katoyes have to give my 2 cents also to this kinda vibrant topic. LOL.

Absolutely right if you talk to them upfront and you "feel" something weird, then just leave it. Means, if you´re in doubt you should walk away and talk to another girl.

From the far spotted I can only tell that the katoeys are more overdressed and overstyled then a normal TG. Even they wanted to have the shabby look, they look perfectly shabby. Hope I made my self understood what I'm talking about.

One last rule, even I who had been 4 years living and travelling in SEA can be fooled if to much alcohol is involved. So I recomand to tell the receptionist of your hotel if you show up drunk again with a company, don't let her go with you to the room if the girls (your company for the night) is

A) Very ugly or

B) A katoey or

C) Both

That will help to avoid any surprises in the morning after: )

Happy hunting

Blink157

Zladdi
02-13-06, 17:05
Does anyone have any idea where to get any Russians in Bangkok?phuket?I don't know about BKK or Phuket.

But Pattaya is full of them now :(

Coma Boy
02-13-06, 17:06
I recommend telling the receptionist of your hotel if you show up drunk with company, don't let her go with you to the room if the girl is

A) Very ugly or
B) A katoey or
C) BothIf you got option C then you deserve the shock in the morning.

1Ball managed the C option three nights in a row, he blamed tequila, but I suspect otherwise.


Often I see katoeys and wish they were women, if that makes sense.

Irish Lad
02-13-06, 17:50
Went to the disco in Grace hotel last Wednesday night and met 2 great looking girls from Uzbekistan. It was a disaster. One of the girls names is Julya and they are 5'2" and Julya is 5'6". Both dark hair and Iranian looking.

We agreed 6,000 for 3 hours to include OWO, Lesbian and group sex.

Back in my hotel, things went sour almost immediately. 3 hours became 2 which I had to argue with them to re-agree 3. Then on the bed, OWO became Oral covered, at which point I said to forget about Oral and I would watch the Lesbian show. At this point they said " No lesbian....only group". At this point I called the deal off and told them to leave.

I now noticed a bottle of eye drops beside my drink which gives you the runs within 20 minutes. Whether or not they had put it in my drink was irrelevant as I had no intention of drinking more of my drink after going for a shower.

One of the girls begged to stay but as Julya had received a call in the meantime she didn't stay. Another client so it didn't matter to her.

I went back to Grace hotel and grabbed the first good looking girl walking out for 1,500 ST.

The following afternoon I followed my own advice and went back to Eden. Picked Tata???, a good looking Issan girl with large breasts ( false of course). She chose Nana. Mark explained I had chosen the 2 craziest girls in the place.

This is why I insist on recommending the place. I got all that I wanted, delivered in true "porn video" fashion and with no doubts about service. Next time I would take Tata for "take away" after 10pm for 3,000 for the whole night. No question. She was the best Anal session I ever had.

After this I had a 4 hour massage session in Ji Ji's along Sumkuhvit rd. Excellent therapy for the weary traveller.

As my flight to Dubai was at 1.20 am I had an evening to kill. I went to Gullivers for a look and took the best looking girl I could find there. Her name is "Fon" and she is from Cambodia. We agreed 1,500 for ST and she was a real sex bomb back in the hotel. A perfect finish to my Bangkok trip.

Piper1
02-14-06, 09:01
Hi IrishLad,

I checked out Grace some weeks back, but the cafe (downstairs, outside entry) was closed for renovations at the time. Same place? (BoyToy - this is one place for Russian/CIS girls).

BTW - you already know that the eyedrops were not eyedrops. Good move on your part to leave your drink. A few horror stories in the Moscow thread this week about guys getting drugged and robbed and unable to wake for days (including a pic of the "eyedrop" bottle found in the bathroom). Similar tales in BKK a while back.

The Traveler
02-14-06, 22:28
Hunter,

it's not just the look of a katoey, it's rather the whole impression.
Men do not only move in a different way, their proportions are different as well and the contour is a bit "harder" due to less body fat and at different parts of the body. Furthermore their behaviour is not "natural" to say so. Let's not forget the voice as well. All in all I agree with Intransit. If there is a doubt, then it is a katoey. Listen to your senses, you will most often unknowingly pick up some signs that will trigger some doubt.

Marteau
02-14-06, 22:57
As my flight to Dubai was at 1.20 am I had an evening to kill. I went to Gullivers for a look and took the best looking girl I could find there. Her name is "Fon" and she is from Cambodia. We agreed 1,500 for ST and she was a real sex bomb back in the hotel. A perfect finish to my Bangkok trip.Isn't this Fon with big silicon tits and 2 vampire tooth ?

DRRonin
02-15-06, 05:37
does anyone have any idea where to get any russians in bangkok?phuket?

Just talked to a friend who came back from BKK last week - told me there were over 40 of them at the Grace but nearly all older and unattractive but he hooked up with a 20 yr old that he said was very nice - asked her what the hell she was doing in BKK and she said she came with friends - all unattractive. He went with her for a whole week - 2,500 baht for each episode. And when I was in BKK in September there were around 15-20 at the CM Disco - all in their 30's but the place was so dark it was hard to judge how they looked.

Fun Pete
02-16-06, 22:58
Well its quite easy, ask the "girl" to give you a blow job. Katoys supposedly give excellent blow jobs, contrary to Thai girls :). So if you got a really blow job you know she is a he :). Good Luck.

Csun213
02-17-06, 00:45
Hi, a friend of mine who is kind of overweight (5 feet 10 inches, 280 lbs) saw a program on Dr. 90210 where a U.S. doctor operates on a man who is also over weight for something called hidden penis or buried penis. The doctor stated that it is a very common problem with men who are over weight. What happens is that the penis is buried inside the rolls of fat therefore the penis seems smaller and is actually smaller since half to 1/3 of the penis is inside the man's body. The operation would involve in fixing the penis so it would not be able to hide inside the body.

Since it is a very scary operation, he would like to know if anyone in
Thailand can find a doctor that is experienced in penis surgery I would appreciate any information. We thought that a doctor that does sex change would probably be the person to talk to and do the operation. He is willing to go to Thailand since he believes that since they have done so many sex changes plus he does not want anyone in the U.S. to know that he is getting the operation. Therefore we would appreciate any help from the people that go or lives in Thailand. Thanks again.

Old Thai Hand
02-17-06, 01:38
Csun213

Bangmod Hospital

http://www.bangmodhos.com

Irish Lad
02-17-06, 03:04
Isn't this Fon with big silicon tits and 2 vampire tooth ?

Maybe................depends on whether or not you were her "boyfriend" waiting in Gullivers while we were back at my hotel!!!!!!!!!

Irish Lad
02-17-06, 03:07
Hi IrishLad,

I checked out Grace some weeks back, but the cafe (downstairs, outside entry) was closed for renovations at the time. Same place? (BoyToy - this is one place for Russian/CIS girls).

BTW - you already know that the eyedrops were not eyedrops. Good move on your part to leave your drink. A few horror stories in the Moscow thread this week about guys getting drugged and robbed and unable to wake for days (including a pic of the "eyedrop" bottle found in the bathroom). Similar tales in BKK a while back.

Inside the hotel and downstairs there is a nightclub similar to the layout in Rockafellas.

Csun213
02-17-06, 19:15
Csun213

Bangmod Hospital

http://www.bangmodhos.com

Thanks for the information however my friend is looking for a hostipal that does sex change operations. From reading their website, they don't do sex change operations. Thanks

Member #3409
02-17-06, 22:59
Hi, a friend of mine who is kind of overweight (5 feet 10 inches, 280 lbs) saw a program on Dr. 90210 where a U.S. doctor operates on a man who is also over weight for something called hidden penis or buried penis. The doctor stated that it is a very common problem with men who are over weight. What happens is that the penis is buried inside the rolls of fat therefore the penis seems smaller and is actually smaller since half to 1/3 of the penis is inside the man's body. The operation would involve in fixing the penis so it would not be able to hide inside the body.I read somewhere that there gets to be a point that for every 10kg a person is overweight the fat makes the effective length about 1-2cm shorter due to the fat covering it up. That has little to do with the amount of penis that is naturaly inside the body. The soultion for someone who is overweight is simple, loose the bloody weight.

The operation you mention has been shown on Aust TV and it basicaly involves removing the muscle that anchors the penis to the body. They use it mainly for people who are bloody short, and as I said if somone was short because of fat then the best result would be diet and exercise. Cutting that lets it hang a bit lower. One side effect CAN be a lack of lateral control, Ie it might still get hard but flop from side to side.

JohnTodd
02-18-06, 18:43
A while back someone asked if there any nude shows in Bangkok, the answer is yes.
I was just at Soi Cowboy, the bar was Raw Hide, probably 40 girls sometimes all on the stage at one time, sometimes nude, sometimes topless.
They had a couple shows, a girl & girl show, but a unique show, two girls on stage at the same time, nude, they each lit two cigaretts, put them in their snatches and actually smoked them, they would get bright red, then they would discharge the smoke from their snatch(not their nose, just a clarification). Both girls were able to do complete splits. so the view was great. They then put like a pea shooter in their snatches, put something white in, and it would shoot out with a loud bang.The girls were friendly.

Csun213
02-18-06, 18:52
I read somewhere that there gets to be a point that for every 10kg a person is overweight the fat makes the effective length about 1-2cm shorter due to the fat covering it up. That has little to do with the amount of penis that is naturaly inside the body. The soultion for someone who is overweight is simple, loose the bloody weight.

The operation you mention has been shown on Aust TV and it basicaly involves removing the muscle that anchors the penis to the body. They use it mainly for people who are bloody short, and as I said if somone was short because of fat then the best result would be diet and exercise. Cutting that lets it hang a bit lower. One side effect CAN be a lack of lateral control, Ie it might still get hard but flop from side to side.

I agree that he should loose the weight however I think he would have to loose about 120lbs to be normal and I don't think that it can be done by him. He has tried a lot od diet and the most he has lost was 20lbs before he put them back on again. He is also in his 50s now and saw a program on Dr. 90210 and would like to try the surgery which is a quick fix. I will have him call and check out the side effects before he gets the operation. Thanks for your information.

Duniawala
02-18-06, 21:33
I agree that he should loose the weight however I think he would have to loose about 120lbs to be normal and I don't think that it can be done by him. He has tried a lot od diet and the most he has lost was 20lbs before he put them back on again. He is also in his 50s now and saw a program on Dr. 90210 and would like to try the surgery which is a quick fix. I will have him call and check out the side effects before he gets the operation. Thanks for your information.
Your friend likes to eat and drink and be a couch potato, and until he can change his behavior he is unlikely to get rid of his weight. The dick operation is not going to help because at the most he will se about 0.5 inch more exposed.

I would suggest he go in for a liposuction/tummy tuck and at the same time go for behavioural modification with professional help. The lipo should give him his intial confidence a boost and he would be more inclined to go for the secondary treatment.

BTW, the dick condition you imply is a visual problem. If and when it is hard it will come up to the full length. Trust me, I have been there.

Good luck.

JuiceSpike
02-18-06, 21:59
Csun,

This is the wrong place to be asking dick problems or overweight problems. You might know this already. I assume you have a doctor and if not get one to walk you through the right steps on what and how to proceed.

Althoug some in here show sympathy with "your friend's" condition you are in the wrong place to be asking such personal questions.

juices

1Ball
02-19-06, 01:23
OK, this discussion is going on in 2 separate threads. you need to talk to a doctor, dude, not us.

Strangest thing happened to me last week at Robinson. I went in there to buy a pair of shoes. I go to the back, on the ground level, and get accosted by 4 salesmen, and 2 salesgirls. It was all good fun, and when I found something I liked, they told me it was 5% off. I told them 5% was a joke, and I wanted more. they all then all looked around, and moved in closer.
Then one guy said, 5% off if credit card, or you want a receipt, 20% off, if cash, and no receipt.
I paid cash, and got my 20%. One of the girls gave me change out of her pocket, and my money never saw the cash register !
And all of this done with beautiful smiles. After all, this is LOS !!!!

That Asshole
02-19-06, 06:21
Where's my show gone?

The strong-man came in with a large bottle of beer in his hand. His assistant carried a plastic bucket. One sharp blow by his elbow to the cap of the bottle and the whole contents exploded down into the bucket, bottom of bottle, beer, everything. Wow, that was amazing! Then the usual act of breaking chopsticks on his throat, slicing cigarettes in half from his assistants mouth with a sharp sword .

It was a good show.

But then the real entertainment followed. Two beauties taking shower on stage from bottles of beer, also letting the bottles explore some very private areas. The lesbian show followed with 4 prostitutes eating each other's meat out. Plus more and more.....

However the last act was the most interesting. On the revolving stage 6 or 7 hookers took positions, wearing only a thin weil each. As the music started the weils slowly came off one by one. Someone bought in one basketful of dildos, assplugs, beerbottles, cucumbers, etc. The dancers obviously had the time of their life exploring each other inner regions while you could hear the audiences eyes popping on the floor in amazement.

The whole act culminated in the fuckers taking up a circular position on the stage, slowly dancing to the music while everyone was inserting something and was inserted something into. It was a fucking shockingly awesome show. All this at Nana Plaza just a COUPLE OF YEARS ago. Unfortunately some suckers started bringing their fat wives along from home. Those complained. Shows shut down. What is there now at Nana? What???
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While foreigners openly show their tits on beaches (Samu, Samet, Phuket, Pattaya, +++) in BROAD DAYLIGHT in front of everyone, children and men, the display of tits behind closed doors, for all adult audience that is strichtly over 20 years old is not allowed.

Makes sense?? Anyway, if you didn't see those shows you missed out big time.

According to my married friend it was more fun than a family picnic with his 120kg wife who can't shut up swearing for 2 seconds, his idiot son who has Down Syndrome and his mother-in-law who has hairy legs and bad breath.

In fact we were all family there united by the spirit of that awesome artistic fuck-display. If there were any idiots they were pretty well hidden in the dark. And nobody on stage had hairy legs, guaranteed.

The shows had been going on for years and years (and there were even a lot more than these). Possibly there had been complaints from time to time. But nobody cared much about the stupid ravings of some female troublemakers (sure, it was not the men who complained).

However now many start to listen. Why? This is very scary. Shit, what will be next? What good can come from a woman's mouth? Isn't it time we did something to stop the invasion on men's rights?


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Were the shows degrading to women? I think so. But what's wrong with that???

On a parallel line:

Once upon a time I read it in some book that among some African tribes only the king is allowed to wear clothes. All the subjects go naked. It seems to rhyme with our case. Is dancing naked in front of dressed up men is degrading to the women. Yeah, sure it is. Hey, but that is what we want! It is all purposely done so. It just renders them to the status where they naturally should be. We men have no regrets here.

I want the sex-shows back at Nana. Plus new sex shows as well. Plus sex shows in every city of the world. Anyone else?

Does anybody ever ask: What do MEN want? Why not?

Kinda Nasty
02-19-06, 21:11
...loose the bloody weight.he should loose the weight... he would have to loose about...Sorry, but I think the word you want is lose.

1Ball
02-20-06, 17:54
not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls ?
probably high prices, huh ....

MartinNL
02-20-06, 20:36
not much has been posted about Riva's.

I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls?

probably high prices, huh ....Been to Riva's a few times staying in Sheraton Grande. Nice music, nice place, high priced drinks ( beer 600 Baht if I can recall ) and some very good looking working girls ( high priced ). Also non WG.

Good place to go with you thai GF if you stay in the hotel and cost is no issue.

Chelsea Boy
02-20-06, 20:59
not much has been posted about Riva's.

I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls?

Probably high prices, huh ....Stayed at the Sheraton Grand about a week ago, visited Riva's several times at night, very good live band from USA. However drinks were very expensive, B280 for a small singha. Also a strict dress code was in opperation, no shorts, t-shirts, sandals or jeans. On the flip side there were at least 15-20 good looking freelancers available.

Coma Boy
02-20-06, 21:04
It's nothing special, and you'll spend lots of cash. Generally not too many girls, although occassionally surprisingly busy. Spasso is a better alternative for that kind of venue.

You'll soon work out which girls are working, although I've often thought I was chatting with a hooker when I wasn't. Most farang I see there leave alone.

Good food, good wine-list, crappy but lively live band, and overall a totally missable venue. The hotel is excellent, and if you're staying there Rivas makes a good place to warm-up before a night out.

I've only ever really gone there because it is so close to my apartment, otherwise I'd rarely visit. In fact, most of my visits have been on first-dates with non-hookers, mostly because the location makes getting them back to my apartment very easy.

Coma Boy
02-21-06, 07:57
Also a strict dress code was in operation, no shorts, t-shirts, sandals or jeans.You can wear jeans and t-shirts, but no shorts or sandals etc.

Meaty
02-22-06, 03:41
Irishpussyman and his travling companion the Mighty Coo, who is a newbie will be landind on holy ground on Sunday 25 for two weeks of fun in the sun, sack. we will be in bangkok for the first 4 days, down to Patt and then back to bangkok. It is a year since I was last there, are there any new places that we should check out, any advice always come in handy Thank you.
Any one from the Forum going to be around then please P.M me.
Thanks
Irishpussyman
To help narrow down the reply, could you provide a list of everything that you did, and everywhere you went a year ago, and from there the new stuff will be easier to spot.

Retired Army
02-22-06, 03:45
not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls ?
probably high prices, huh ....

There are better places than Riva's. If high-class is your thing then go to Spasso. The best nights are Sunday and Monday when the band isn't playing. Less crowded and quiter but still plenty of girls willing to bargain.

Boy Toy
02-22-06, 09:18
dear fellow mongrs,

what really is the differnce between the three and how much are they required, where are they available in BKK?

please elaborate.

boy

FlyingVisitor
02-22-06, 12:35
Boy Toy,

In reference to your questions:

Penegra is "Sildenafil" (same as Viagra).

It is an Indian generic product.

It works well, I like it and it is much cheaper than the original Viagra.

I always buy it at the intersection Sukhumvit/Nana (soi4).

You find a benzin station there and close by on Sukhumvit a small money changer. The neighbour shop is a small pharmacy or drugstore. They are a little bit cheaper than the bigger drugstore 2 shops more to Marriott hotel.

They sell Penegra as 100 mg tablets (like Viagra). So you can divide that into 4 particles of 25 mg.

Good effect and happy "events" !!

FV

Duniawala
02-22-06, 15:16
dear fellow mongrs,

what really is the differnce between the three and how much are they required, where are they available in BKK?

please elaborate.

boy
BT, strange question for an experienced monger like you. This has been answered many times in this forum. So here goes one more time.

No difference in active ingredient (slidenfil). Viagra is the original. Costs $6 to $10 per tablet and made in USA. The other two are generic made in India and costs about B500 per strip of 4 tablets in BKK.

To me they all work the same, however other people report differences in its performance.

Kinda Nasty
02-22-06, 20:52
went to midnight and took quick peeks at cactus, long gun, raw hide, and black & white. only saw full nude at midnight and long gun. a little disappointed with cactus because i heard it was supposed to be one of the wilder places, sort of a training bar for the big(ger) time at long gun, etc. but all the girls during my two looks had panties or bikini bottoms on. midnight was its usual fun spot with more than half girls naked on stage and one especially friendly one offering me her ass for a few spanks.

Boy Toy
02-23-06, 05:15
i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.

what do u think?

BT

BT, strange question for an experienced monger like you. This has been answered many times in this forum. So here goes one more time.

No difference in active ingredient (slidenfil). Viagra is the original. Costs $6 to $10 per tablet and made in USA. The other two are generic made in India and costs about B500 per strip of 4 tablets in BKK.

To me they all work the same, however other people report differences in its performance.

Duniawala
02-23-06, 08:09
i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.

what do u think?

BT
Viagra takes hold about an hour after you take it. Even so at 45 min you should be fine. I think you got taken in by a counterfeit pill. Plenty around in BKK. Last time I got Penagra Express (yup, a new one in India, cost about 70 B for a 4 pack) and it worked really well.

Retired Army
02-23-06, 20:33
i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.

what do u think?

BT

What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.

Viagra has to be taken on an empty stomach or the effects are diminished. It is most effective about one hour after ingestion. And lasts for about 4-6 hours. Alcohol can also affect the outcome. One of the side effects of all the ED drugs is a reduced ability to ejaculate. If you are a "quick shot" then that is probably good for your partner, but not for you. Next time you might consider Levitra. It works faster and doesn't care if your stomach is full or not. It gives a great woody and works for about 12 hours. So you can go again in the morning. A little, though not much more, expensive than Viagra. Same problem with ejaculating though, if not more. That's where the girl is going to have to apply her talents. Cialis is another option and is known as the Weekend party pill. Its effects are good for about 36 hours. Cialis is the most expensive of all the ED treatments. However, one way to keep the cost down is to buy the largest dosage you can find and cut the pills in half or thirds. A larger dose doesn't cost much more, if any, than the smallest dose.

Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.

Member #3409
02-23-06, 22:54
Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.You should be careful cutting any drug up as the active ingredients are not always evenly distributed through the tablet. Viagra is one that I beleive is 'bad' for this. In the example with Levitra you gave it could well be the 2/3's tablet you took had close to 100% of the active ingredient. Thats one of he many reasons why drug companies make their pills in different strengths rather than making a strong one capable of being divided. (increasing their profit is another). The other funny thing is some people will still get the same effect, especialy with viagra because many really don't need it, but their mind has been tricked into thinking they have it so it works, just look at tests results using placebo drugs.

One last thing that I think was touched on was again many of these drugs don't make a hard on any better, they just aid in getting it up in the first instance.

Meaty
02-24-06, 03:26
What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.
Even us younguns can benefit from the blue pill, i like to take half if i'm on a wild session, i always get a cracking headache about 10 minutes after taking it, it lasts about 10 minutes, and then i'm fine. I definetely agree about the difficulty in ejaculating. Half a pill has often lasted 24-36 hrs for me.

Boy Toy
02-24-06, 05:14
just tried a viagra for kicks sake, i am a young and healthy male, no problems in ejaculation, however the only reason to try it was to prolong the session, which was not so, at times i have cum earlier and have felt dissatisfied myself, and at times so has my partner , i do remember once in 2000, had 4 straight shots of tequila, and the process was so prolonged that i made the BG scream for me to cum, in the middle somewhere the condom also ripped(which i thought was quite an achievment), trying to achieve this since a long time however still have not had it,viagra did not help me at all, what do you experienced guys suggest for a errect dick that does not come at least before an hour?

BOY

What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.

Viagra has to be taken on an empty stomach or the effects are diminished. It is most effective about one hour after ingestion. And lasts for about 4-6 hours. Alcohol can also affect the outcome. One of the side effects of all the ED drugs is a reduced ability to ejaculate. If you are a "quick shot" then that is probably good for your partner, but not for you. Next time you might consider Levitra. It works faster and doesn't care if your stomach is full or not. It gives a great woody and works for about 12 hours. So you can go again in the morning. A little, though not much more, expensive than Viagra. Same problem with ejaculating though, if not more. That's where the girl is going to have to apply her talents. Cialis is another option and is known as the Weekend party pill. Its effects are good for about 36 hours. Cialis is the most expensive of all the ED treatments. However, one way to keep the cost down is to buy the largest dosage you can find and cut the pills in half or thirds. A larger dose doesn't cost much more, if any, than the smallest dose.

Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.

WayneKing
02-24-06, 05:19
Hi All
Down at Nana Plaza on Tues night and there was this guy clutching a bible in one hand while shouting about Sinners etc .... he seemed to be frothing at the mouth a bit and was getting rather over-excited.
I watched him from the pool place on the corner, 1st and 2nd floor.... he eventually finished after about an hour and then another guy took over. (He was not as good!)
Is this some sort of new entertainment being put on by Nana Plaza Management?
Is he there every day/week?....(I would love to get him drunk and stich him up with a couple of Katoys)
Regards
Wayne

Coma Boy
02-24-06, 05:35
those missionaries are fucking wankers.

you should see how bad they are up in chiang mai and the hills. they're on a mission to totally destroy akha, and other hilltribe, cultures. they're wasting their time around nep, but they do a lot more damage in other parts of the country.

everyone should be encouraged to attack/abuse/[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)/kill any that you see. wayne's katoey idea is perfect.

Seydlitz
02-24-06, 10:20
I have only experimented with Viagra and Cialis, cutting 100mg V into 4 and 20mg C in halves. They work well, and I have not noticed any difficulty in ejaculating.

I really do not need ED drugs (yet), but it is handy to have them available for Thai vacations because of the sex marathon that those can turn into.

For me the main use of ED drugs is to overcome the depressing effect on erection of industrialized-paid-sex situations, especially at MPs. Also the condom routine can have a hard-on reduction effect, plus the fact that not all TGs are stellar sex goddess performers.

When in a GFE with a longer-term TG partner, the sex is very casual and the need for ED drugs is minimal. Sometimes though, the kid-in-a-candy-store syndrom makes me want to have yet another go at it and my bedmate is all for it, but my body says "gee, not a fourth time ..." and denies me the blood supply needed. Then the nice pill is in order. But if I can fool my body into letting me have one more erection, the sex experience I get out of it is usually disappointing.

Joe Banana
02-24-06, 14:31
Found this new website with some good stories on.
http://www.thailandstories.com/

Retired Army
02-25-06, 00:20
A doctor warned me about getting "hooked" on ED drugs. You may not need them, but your mind thinks you do and you can't get an erection without them. I think that has happened to me. The ejaculating problem may also be psycholgical and as men age we lose sensitivity because of all the abuse we inflict upon ourselves.

Retired Army
02-25-06, 00:26
Are they Mormons on their mission? Did they have white shirts, ties and little name tags. They come here for a year of saving souls and after about six months many of them "cave in" and join us in "enjoying the pleasures of the flesh." They are, after all, human.

Now who in the Mormon Church decides who goes where on their mission? Why Thailand and not the Congo or Pakistan? Could it be how much money their family donates to the Temple? I saw these guys in Australia and New Zealand and they were enjoying life. I also saw them in Africa and they were miserable, ready to quit the church just to get the fuck out of the place.