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American tourist Victor Vincent. 24, was found dead late on Tuesday in an apartment on Rua Ministro Viveiros de Castro. 15, corner of Avenida Princesa Isabel in Copacabana, Zona Sul Rio In the house, rented as a vacation, police found two pipes used for the consumption of crack, a large amount and variety of alcoholic, sexual stimulants and condoms. There is a suspicion of seizures by over substance.
That building, BTW, is (was) a location of small, low-budget apts of the kind favored by GDP's. What's an American with two first names doing there dead. And, talk about no clue: 4000 reales for 20 days in a dump life that. Even with Reveillon gouging, man, he shoud've read the Forum.
American tourist Victor Vincent. 24, was found dead late on Tuesday in an apartment on Rua Ministro Viveiros de Castro. 15, corner of Avenida Princesa Isabel in Copacabana, Zona Sul Rio In the house, rented as a vacation, police found two pipes used for the consumption of crack, a large amount and variety of alcoholic, sexual stimulants and condoms. There is a suspicion of seizures by over substance.
According to the deputy of the 12th PA delegate Bruno Gilabert, the USA was alone in Rio since the last 20 days. The studio apartment was rented for $ 4000. The building sits atop the club Cicciolina and a few meters from the club Barbarella, two well-known erotic Copacabana establishments frequented by foreign tourists.
Due to the topping stage of decomposition, Victor Vincent would be dead for at least a week. The head injury was due to the time of death of the victim. At the site, still under the delegation, there were two pipes, commonly used in the consumption of crack. The two objects are the remnants of expertise to determine whether they were used for drug consumption.
Also found were bottles of vodka, whiskey and run, and sealed condoms and pills sexual stimulants. The lap top will be expert evaluation of the victim. Also according to Bruno Gilabert, the main line of investigation by the police is that tourists have been victims of accidental death for excessive consumption of alcohol, drug and sexual stimulants.
According to documentation found in the property, Victor Vincent completed 24 years in the last 10 days. He was born in the city of New York and would be a kind of small business owner, police said. The USA consulate has been notified of the facts surrounding his death. Moral of the story: CRACK KILLS!
Member #3439
12-31-10, 07:31
Centro de Lazer. 13 (Praça Olavo Bilac-Centro)
Praça Olavo Bilac, is a pedestrian street with a few boites that are quite good for as far as low-end centro boites go. Located just off Rua Bueno RosáRio. 164 at the floral shop.
Centro de Lazer. 13 is probably the best of the bunch.
Nice report. This place sounds familiar to me, like maybe I've seen it before...but I don't see it on Google Streetview. Can you provide more details about the exact location of Centro de Lazer 13? I think you are talking about the Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias. How can it be located once somone is there at the flower shop? Does it have a ground level door or do you need to go in somewhere and go up stairs?
Thanks for this report.
Hi,
I will visit Rio next month for the first time. I don't speak Portuguese.
I am looking for nice fresh-faced, non-hardened looking, slim girls.
I will try the termas.
In addition to Centaurus, I hesitate between L'Uomo, Monte Carlo and Solarium (4x4 seems to have more gangsta type looking girl)? Any recommandations?
If you just want sex with a girl who looks fresh, Rua Buenos Aires 85 (BA85) usually has 1 or 2 during the evenings and it's cheap. I pulled a model quality girl on the third floor back in July. Decent BJ and sex for about 1R/min, if you just want a looker and don't mind everything covered its worth a try rather than breaking the bank in Copa.
Can somebody enlighten me on why people so often use the word gangsta in regard to 4x4? The tattoos? I don't think they have more tattoos than other Centro GDPs. I like these girls, they are down to earth and the sex is usually genuine if you take a girl who acts lively in the boite. I can screen girls at 4x4 based on whether they are standing or sitting, front or back of the boite, and whether they give tongue in the boite. In Copa termas, things are more uniform you can't screen like that.
Ipanema Carioca
12-31-10, 08:52
Nice report. This place sounds familiar to me, like maybe I've seen it before. But I don't see it on Google Streetview. Can you provide more details about the exact location of Centro de Lazer 13? I think you are talking about the Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias. How can it be located once somone is there at the flower shop? Does it have a ground level door or do you need to go in somewhere and go up stairs?
Thanks for this report.
If you just want sex with a girl who looks fresh, Rua Buenos Aires 85 (BA85) usually has 1 or 2 during the evenings and it's cheap. I pulled a model quality girl on the third floor back in July. Decent BJ and sex for about 1R / min, if you just want a looker and don't mind everything covered its worth a try rather than breaking the bank in Copa.
Can somebody enlighten me on why people so often use the word gangsta in regard to 4x4? The tattoos? I don't think they have more tattoos than other Centro GDPs. I like these girls, they are down to earth and the sex is usually genuine if you take a girl who acts lively in the boite. I can screen girls at 4x4 based on whether they are standing or sitting, front or back of the boite, and whether they give tongue in the boite. In Copa termas, things are more uniform you can't screen like that.
Was out doing some late night grocery shopping when I passed a pizzeria I frequent. Pizza is normally all you can eat for less than R$20. On each table was a sign letting patrons know they can celebrate their New Year there for R$400 per person. Bring a kid along for R$200. If anyone in route wants me to reserve their table, please let me know.Of course 400 for bread and ketchup you can't go wrong.
Ipanema Carioca, I think your photos are for Centro de Lazer 132 on Rua de Conceicao in Centro. Centro de Lazer 13 is in Praca Olavo Bilac, the flower sellers square, which is off Rua do Rosario. There is a sign over the door so it is easy to find. I have never been to either termas so would be interested in hearing any feedback. I'll try them out on my next trip to Rio in June.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1107506]Nice report. This place sounds familiar to me, like maybe I've seen it before. But I don't see it on Google Streetview. Can you provide more details about the exact location of Centro de Lazer 13? I think you are talking about the Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias. How can it be located once somone is there at the flower shop? Does it have a ground level door or do you need to go in somewhere and go up stairs? QUOTE]
Putaplaya, from my recollections the entrance is in the flower sellers square (I think on the right hand side of the Camelia flower shop as you enter from Rosario) , there is a ground level entrance door and you walk upstairs, there is a sign over the door.
Brazil Specialist
12-31-10, 14:37
American tourist Victor Vincent. 24, was found dead late on Tuesday in an apartment on Rua Ministro Viveiros de Castro. 15, corner of Avenida Princesa Isabel in Copacabana, Zona Sul Rio In the house, rented as a vacation, police found two pipes used for the consumption of crack, a large amount and variety of alcoholic, sexual stimulants and condoms. There is a suspicion of seizures by over substance.
Thanks for the info. Would be good if you cited the original source, so we can read up on it without having to second-guess the google translation.
Brazil Specialist
12-31-10, 14:46
Can somebody enlighten me on why people so often use the word gangsta in regard to 4x4? The tattoos? I don't think they have more tattoos than other Centro GDPs. I like these girls, they are down to earth and the sex is usually genuine if you take a girl who acts lively in the boite. I can screen girls at 4x4 based on whether they are standing or sitting, front or back of the boite, and whether they give tongue in the boite. In Copa termas, things are more uniform you can't screen like that.I have heard that at 4x4, clients tend to be either police or gangsters. In either case, these guys have their methods, in the room, of intimidating girls into providing exactly the service they want.
Thanks for the info. Would be good if you cited the original source, so we can read up on it without having to second-guess the google translation.This weblink has some detailed information.
http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/
Brazil Specialist
12-31-10, 15:09
Hi,
I will visit Rio next month for the first time. I don't speak Portuguese.
I am looking for nice fresh-faced, non-hardened looking, slim girls.
I will try the termas.
Having read the posts, it seems that I need to try Centaurus even if their policy is not always appreciated.
Totos, if you pay your dues for a membership, then people can contact you with private messages. Otherwise there is no way to send you messages. I tried and failed.
I probably could help you in your quest.
To me a model type is a tall, skinny & generally less than attractice woman.Isn't it great that we have different tastes? Frequently I witness the following scen in these cheap dumps of R$ 20 massage parlors. There is one drop dead cute 18 year old, slim, no belly, hard body standing around abandoned while a happy Brazilian has a fat middle aged whale with small tits and big belly and big ass sitting on his lap.
I am happy, too, to have the cutie left all for myself. So praise diversity!
Ipanema Carioca, I think your photos are for Centro de Lazer 132 on Rua de Conceicao in Centro. Centro de Lazer 13 is in Praca Olavo Bilac, the flower sellers square, which is off Rua do Rosario. There is a sign over the door so it is easy to find. I have never been to either termas so would be interested in hearing any feedback. I'll try them out on my next trip to Rio in June.There are a bunch of such cheap termas, plenty of them opening early already. Good prices and occasional gems to be found.
Happy New Year everyone (even though I think this is the biggest B / S holiday)!
So I'm here in Copacabana for my second New Year in a row, except I've been here for 3 months now, and I can honestly say that I finally feel like a Brasileiro because I want all the tourists to leave! But if you were looking for the best pyrotechnics on the planet, on one of the most beautiful beaches in the world, with the happiest people in the world, this was the night. Absolutely SPECTACULAR!
As for the rest of the upcoming week, plus 2-3 more days perhaps, price gouging will be at it's finest (aside from Carnaval) and it's easy to see why. The streets are completely filled with idioto and idiota tourists. If 1/2 million tourists invaded my beach town I would probably overcharge them too. It's simple economics. Supply and demand. Although the only supply I see in jeopardy right now is alcohol and freelance 'entertainment'.
Bit ve never seen an environment where 2+ million people can party on a huge beach without a single incident. I do hear some rowdiness going on outside my apartment now but it's 5am and I don't hear sirens or screaming like I would in New York City where so many people celebrate the new year in zero Celsius degrees.
So I will finito my post with one final observation about this grande holiday in Rio (2nd only to Carnaval). Right now everyone that works / hustles has muito $$$ on their mind so if you're not with a ball & chain (e. G. Came with your own sand to the beach) I can't imagine what the freelance GDP's will gouge you for. It has got to be louco. And if anyone sees an increase in Terma prices (compared to the recent posts I've seen on here) that would be nice to know too because they have got to be gauging as well. I don't visit Termas anymore and I don't invite GDP's over on one their biggest weeks of the year so I can't provide intel. Sorry. Last New Year 'Help' was still open until the 5th of January so I was able to work out some great deals, but this year is different. I do believe price fixing will finally commence.
Ciao for now,
RioDan
Hi to all the guys on the forum. I haven't been on here for a few months due to depression stemming from the fact I've spent Christmas in Rio for the last two years and this Christmas I stayed in London. I couldn't face reading all the funny / interesting / stupid posts on this here forum.
I've just spent five days in bed with flu. Happy Christmas to me! God, I wish I was in the land of milk and honey rather than the land of rain and darkness. But you've cheered me up with your relentless banter. Some observations and questions for the usual suspects. Sperto, Brazil Specialist, Puta Playa, Bubba Boy and of course, Eric Cartman (apologies if I miss any of the other informed punters out but please feel free to answer) :
1. What's the news on the hotel on the corner of Principessa Isabella that was supposed to be finished by last Easter? Did the rumours about another Help style disco in the basement come to fruition? I very much doubt it!
2. Are there any new Termas open in Zona Sul or Centro that match 4x4, MC or L'Uomo?
3. What it Cancun?
4. I hear dissent about Rio (as I always have) and whispers of Colombia. Can anyone compare and contrast the two scenes in a coherent way?
5. It seems more and more boites are opening in Centro. Is this the case? And is it in reply to the close of Help or just a coincidence? And are there more boite-type establishments in Copacabana in response to Help's closing?
I think that's it. I hope to get down for Easter, finances and time allowing, or maybe I should visit Colombia.
Feliz ano novo!
4. I hear dissent about Rio (as I always have) and whispers of Colombia. Can anyone compare and contrast the two scenes in a coherent way?I know I'm relatively new to this board, compared to the contributors you mentioned with many years of experience in this city, but this is my 5th visit to Rio in less than 3 years, and my 2nd visit this year (2 months Jan-Feb. 4 months Oct-Jan'11) so I'm seeing a lot of changes happening very quickly that visitors who only stay a week or two may not recognize, and experienced visitors from the past may be sorely disappointed with when they return. The reason for my long stay this trip was to look for real estate (I'm priced out of anything worthwhile at this point) and new business (I'm a web site and software developer).
It's as simple as this. Help is gone (arguably the best GDP club on the planet) , there is a new female president, Dilma Rousseff who was just sworn in a few hours ago and is riding in a convertible (top up) Rolls Royce as I am typing (Obama had to ride in atomic bomb proof limo when he celebrated) , the World Cup and Olympics are coming to town, real estate prices have sky rocketed up to 100% in the past year, so. Say Hello, to a new 'Family Friendly' Rio. And richer families at that! Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the huge Petrobas oil platform that is drilling off this beautiful Copacabana coastline. One of my girls down here told me the town is filled with very well-paid contract workers, both Brasileiros and Texans (of course) that are spending money like drunken sailors. These are the major factors why everything is changing so fast here, and it has only just begun.
I can't speak for the termas (I only went to 4x4 once this trip and the price increase was about 35-40%) but the vast quantity and quality of freelance GDP's that used to frequent Help have all turned into lower-grade, greedy, non GFE, Piranhas that feed in three small ponds: Mei Pateca (sp?) next to Othon Palace, Balcony Bar (what a scene) , and Dolce Vita's (smaller than my apartment) in the wee hours. All the girls will say they are friends with each other, which is like saying I know everyone on Facebook. Why? To cawk-block you from taking another. But don't listen to them. And if you let one (or two in some of my cases) sleep over be prepared to let them sleep the next day off, eat all your food, and possibly steal anything they can fit in their pocket book. After a mere 3 months here I have come to the conclusion that I will never return for more than a few weeks (mainly because I love the beaches, looking at beautiful carioca's in thongs, and it sure beats the snow).
As for Colombia, I went for the first time this past May. I was scared sh-tless but decided to take the risk because I'm the "no risk, no reward" type. I'm so glad I did because I met some of the nicest travelers (totally different than here) , and some of THE MOST beautiful women in the world. Yes, Brasil has the hottest, but Colombia has the most beautiful (many guys I met that have been here and there said the same thing before I found out for myself). And, contrary to popular belief, there are many with nice round butts. My preference is the model looking types with beautiful smiles, tight bods, and freaks in the bed. And that's all I got in Colombia. Non-stop. And the trip was 1/10 the cost of here. However, the country is still not completely stabilized and there are nightly curfews that range from 10pm. 12am and the bars must close. That's when you bring the action back to you hotel room or apartment and create your own terma. I had such a good time in Colombia I extended my trip another week after all my Spanish speaking friends left (I only speak Portuguese, and not that well) , and I still got by like Tipo Rei (King type)!
I'm not here to lamb baste Rio, I really love this city because it's extremely charming, the locals are some of the friendliest in the world (in Colombia they rarely crack a smile) , and the beaches are outrageous (especially during thong season)! But I think it's slowly becoming a contrived Disney World for Adults in Copacabana. Centro is another story, I know there are low-priced, all you desire, termas and freelancers there so I may need to trek back there more and stop looking for girls here in Copa Louca.
But I highly recommend Colombia for a taste of something very inexpensive and different. I've never heard any complaints from anyone that went and made it back (j / k)!
Poucolouco
01-01-11, 23:58
The logo for the 2016 Olympics in Rio was unveiled Friday. The flowing symbol resembles three figures. Orange, green and blue. Embraced at the arms and in a flowing dance.
IMHO the thing looks like a tri-color IUD device.
Mr Enternational
01-02-11, 01:47
Just wondering if anyone had any contact info on any of the low-cost apartments or long-term motel / hotels that the GDPs from out of town use while working in Rio. I figure one can do worse than setting up shop in the midst of a puta-oasis. A ho-asis if you will!Never shit where you sleep.
........Copa Louca.............Now that is a very good post. I have spent a lot of time in Both Brazil and Columbia, can't dissagree with anything really. Not to beat a dead horse but Copa just gets more and more expensive. Centro gives some respite but the cost of living is just getting freakier with each day that passes. Can't help but think it is all going to end in tears one day, but until then Brazilian prices are just absurd!
Eric Cartman
01-02-11, 03:30
HAnd if anyone sees an increase in Terma prices (compared to the recent posts I've seen on here) that would be nice to know too because they have got to be gauging as well. I don't visit Termas anymore and I don't invite GDP's over on one their biggest weeks of the year so I can't provide intel. Sorry. Last New Year 'Help' was still open until the 5th of January so I was able to work out some great deals, but this year is different. I do believe price fixing will finally commence.
Ciao for now,
RioDanWell, I was at L'Uomo on Thursday night 30th, which was the last day before they closed for NYE / NYD. We got there around 10. 30pm and it was probably 2:1 girls to guys. They were having an early NYE party. Gave out candles and sparklers. At midnight, everyone lit them off and shouted happy new year etc. By that point, there were maybe 5-10 dudes and the rest girls. And many girls just got into their street clothes and started heading out. Prices seemed normal to me for 40 mins.
We had a big NYE party on my apartment's terrace in Copa, with a great view of the fireworks. Invited a number of GDPs I know. Told them I was just inviting them as friends, not working. One banged my friend for free, and the other asked me for R$90 for cab fare to get back to wherever the fuck she lives outside Rio. Which apparently is really really far. She said she'd take me there one day to show me, which I politely declined LOL. So we avoided NYE gouging.
I can see why it could be happening at balcony etc. I was at Balcony on Weds 29th very late. Say 2am-3am. And man (a) it was packed and (be) the girls were "hard". I mean prison style hard, not really a cutie to be spotted in the bunch. Not the kind I wanted to take home. I know you only need 1 but better luck in Centro.
502 and the other cheaper Ts in Centro seem like good hunting grounds. Pricing remains OK. R$120 / throw. And the girls live in far away places so getting them to spend a night with you in Copa is actually attractive for them. At the same R$120 prices or less. FWIW.
But overall I do agree on prices and inflation in general in Copa. It's a shame and it will come to a halt sometime, but for now we are all living in a Rio unlike what we've know and loved in the past.
-Cartman
Member #3439
01-02-11, 10:51
Isn't it great that we have different tastes? Frequently I witness the following scen in these cheap dumps of R$ 20 massage parlors. There is one drop dead cute 18 year old, slim, no belly, hard body standing around abandoned while a happy Brazilian has a fat middle aged whale with small tits and big belly and big ass sitting on his lap.
I am happy, too, to have the cutie left all for myself. So praise diversity!
There are a bunch of such cheap termas, plenty of them opening early already. Good prices and occasional gems to be found.
Wiil you post the locations of some R$20 massage parlors? The only one that I know of is Bar Uruguaiana 210 where you could get a 15 minute session for about that much per the laminated menu they showed me several months back. I'm not sure what can be done in 15 minutes, but maybe it makes sense to Brasilians. After 15 minutes I'm still DATY, DFK, getting catbath and/or whatever. U210 is actually one of those places where I walk in and get the best looking girl due to the whale effect that you are talking about. BA85 and Cesaro too. Their Skol goggles work to our benefit. I keep my consumption down to near zero for maximum hobbying, except at VM where it's a little bit mandatory to get the cerveja goggles on, and smear some good VM mud on them.
Ipanama Carioca, that's the Centro de Lazer that I was remembering. Different one.
Torgoch, thanks for the clarification. I will be put this on my list! Looking forward to getting back!!!! Hopefully my trip occurs to plan, so I get to do my mongering just before Carnivale while the maximum number of girls are still there, but still mostly tight and healthy. ;) After this, I won't get back until October, so will be making the most of it but keeping it sane. Last time was either 21 or 23 girls in 7 days, more stressful than fun. Next time, quality!
Thanks so much for the comparison, Daniel69. Very useful and comprehensive. I guess we should be pleased that Brazil is improving economically, but from a selfish, mongering point of view, wealth is not good for the scene. Ah well, that's progress.
Can someone on the ground in Rio confirm if the price of a session at 4 X 4 has gone up once again? If so, what are the current prices? Any information will be nice to have. Thanks.
Can someone on the ground in Rio confirm if the price of a session at 4 X 4 has gone up once again? If so, what are the current prices? Any information will be nice to have. Thanks.I think the reference to the prices going up in an earlier post were from someone who hadn't been back to Rio in quite some time. When I was there Dec 10, Bubba Boys Guide accurately reflected 4x4 prices, including waived entrance if you take a girl before 5pm.
I think the reference to the prices going up in an earlier post were from someone who hadn't been back to Rio in quite some time. When I was there Dec 10, Bubba Boys Guide accurately reflected 4x4 prices, including waived entrance if you take a girl before 5pm.I was last on the 30th and it was 280 Reais for an hour session.
Did anyone go? Wasn't it magnificient?I was there and it was amazing. Daniella Mercury was amazing and the firework were very nice. Really crowded and the prices were just crazy at Restaraunts but it was all worth it. We had a great time partying all night, in to the next day then heading to Lupa last night. Great time!
Thanks so much for the comparison, Daniel69. Very useful and comprehensive. I guess we should be pleased that Brazil is improving economically, but from a selfish, mongering point of view, wealth is not good for the scene. Ah well, that's progress.Don't sweat it. Brazil's in no danger of running out of poor people any time soon. There'll be someone around who you can afford.
Nice report. This place sounds familiar to me, like maybe I've seen it before. But I don't see it on Google Streetview. Can you provide more details about the exact location of Centro de Lazer 13? I think you are talking about the Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias. How can it be located once somone is there at the flower shop? Does it have a ground level door or do you need to go in somewhere and go up stairs?
Thanks for this report.
Which Centro de Lazer?
Ipanema Carioca, I think your photos are for Centro de Lazer 132 on Rua de Conceicao in Centro. Centro de Lazer 13 is in Praca Olavo Bilac, the flower sellers square, which is off Rua do Rosario. There is a sign over the door so it is easy to find. I have never been to either termas so would be interested in hearing any feedback. I'll try them out on my next trip to Rio in June. Puta Playa, you are correct in your assumptions (Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias) and the directions Torgoch, gave are also correct and is easy to find.
I was also initially confused when I was first given the directions and then went to Goggle Maps to try to find the location. I suspect the reason that you can't see the street on Goggle Maps, is due to the fact it is a "pedestrian street". So I am guessing the vehicle taking the pics for Goggle Maps could not travel into this area to take the street photos.
Nice report. This place sounds familiar to me, like maybe I've seen it before...but I don't see it on Google Streetview. Can you provide more details about the exact location of Centro de Lazer 13? I think you are talking about the Camelia flower shop at Rua do Rosario and Rua Goncalves Dias. How can it be located once somone is there at the flower shop? Does it have a ground level door or do you need to go in somewhere and go up stairs? In March there were two casas next to each other on Praça Olavo Bilac. Not very impressive but worth checking out.
Just enter in the flower street between BA85 and ex-BA113.
If I don't find anything interesting at BA85 today I'll try these casas.
13. Praça Olavo Bilac 13:
- Sala 513: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B-C, Number=7, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/15 min, R$ 25/20 min, R$ 35/30 min, R$ 65/60 min.
14. Praça Olavo Bilac 15:
- Sala 513: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B-C, Number=7, WV=B
R$ 17/15 min, R$ 22/20 min, R$ 32/30 min.
Would I assume correctly in saying that L'umo. 4x4, Centaurus etc. Are the ones you have to robe up, but the other smaller termas you don't?
Would be cool to have a list of those you do have to and don't. I've looked, maybe I missed it, but haven't seen a list like that on here.
Finished reading all of Bubba's report, absolutely awesome.
If I don't find anything interesting at BA85 today I'll try these casas.Looking for some relaxation today I passed Praça Olavo Bilac.
Number 15 isn't very appealing. The cabins looked very simple and the girls I saw there were not attractive. The girls were very insistent. The bar guy is a jerk.
Number 13 is much nicer. A nice large bar area. The female boss, a blond MILF, was very welcoming. At 11 AM there were only 5 girls working. I made my choice immidiately.
Tiara: 19 years, very sweet, smelled good, chocolate dark skin, nice titties even though one kid, strong legs, pussy-piercing and an absolutely lovely, round and quite small but.
Decent cabins, clean sheets (at least at 11 AM) and cool temperature.
I chose R$27/20 minutes. BBBJ and very good performance. Tiara doesn't do anal (I usually don't ask for anal, but Tiaras butt was very inviting). She posed happily for a photo session.
Would I assume correctly in saying that L'umo. 4x4, Centaurus etc. Are the ones you have to robe up, but the other smaller termas you don't?
Would be cool to have a list of those you do have to and don't. I've looked, maybe I missed it, but haven't seen a list like that on here.
Finished reading all of Bubba's report, absolutely awesome. Robes required in Zona Sul:
Centaurus.
Luomo.
Monte Carlo.
Solarium.
No other T's that I am aware of require a Robe in Zona Sul.
Robes required in Centro:
4x4 (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
T65 (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
Cancun (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
T21.
MV 30 (robe is optional)
No other T's that I am aware of require a Robe.
Barra de Tijuca,
No T's that I am aware of require a Robe.
Cheers BB.
Robes required in Zona Sul:
Centaurus.
Luomo.
Monte Carlo.
Solarium.
No other T's that I am aware of require a Robe in Zona Sul.
Robes required in Centro:
4x4 (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
T65 (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
Cancun (optional whiskey room where do not need to where a robe)
T21.
MV 30 (robe is optional)
No other T's that I am aware of require a Robe.
Barra de Tijuca,
No T's that I am aware of require a Robe.
Ipanema Carioca
01-05-11, 17:45
Looking for some relaxation today I passed Praça Olavo Bilac.
Number 15 isn't very appealing. The cabins looked very simple and the girls I saw there were not attractive. The girls were very insistent. The bar guy is a jerk.
Number 13 is much nicer. A nice large bar area. The female boss, a blond MILF, was very welcoming. At 11 AM there were only 5 girls working. I made my choice immidiately.
Tiara: 19 years, very sweet, smelled good, chocolate dark skin, nice titties even though one kid, strong legs, pussy-piercing and an absolutely lovely, round and quite small but.
Decent cabins, clean sheets (at least at 11 AM) and cool temperature.
I chose R$27/20 minutes. BBBJ and very good performance. Tiara doesn't do anal (I usually don't ask for anal, but Tiaras butt was very inviting). She posed happily for a photo session. I like Tiara too. But I was disappointed when she told me no completa. Maybe I will offer her more reais next time.
I like Tiara too. But I was disappointed when she told me no completa. Maybe I will offer her more reais next time.Tiara is a sweetie. I passed by Praça Olavo Bilac 13 today at 11. 30 AM. There were only 3 girls working. Tiara said that there were only supposed to be 3 girls that early (yesterday was an exception) and more girls arriving at 1 PM.
I passed by Carioca 59, but nothing really interesting. Uruguaiana 22 had some nice girls, but not nice enough to stand a session in the cabins with music blasting just metres away. Rua do Ouvidor 130 / s 707 had a bunch of guys waiting but no girls ready for work (Kelly still works there which is good news).
Buenos Aires 85 was just like usual. It seems like the narrow spiral stairs is falling apart a bit every year. It's hard meeting a fat sweaty guy when you're halfway down the stairs. Some interesting girls. Lots of big-butted girls.
Today I tried Suzy on the fourth floor. Morena clara, cute, innocent look, slim and a round little butt. The tits turned out to be a deception, small and saggy. The vagina was quite impressive, tight and thick like a hamburger. Suzy does a very good BBBJ and performs well, but no anal. No problem taking photos.
Ipanema Carioca
01-06-11, 02:36
Tiara is a sweetie. I passed by Praça Olavo Bilac 13 today at 11. 30 AM. There were only 3 girls working. Tiara said that there were only supposed to be 3 girls that early (yesterday was an exception) and more girls arriving at 1 PM.
I passed by Carioca 59, but nothing really interesting. Uruguaiana 22 had some nice girls, but not nice enough to stand a session in the cabins with music blasting just metres away. Rua do Ouvidor 130 / s 707 had a bunch of guys waiting but no girls ready for work (Kelly still works there which is good news).
Buenos Aires 85 was just like usual. It seems like the narrow spiral stairs is falling apart a bit every year. It's hard meeting a fat sweaty guy when you're halfway down the stairs. Some interesting girls. Lots of big-butted girls.
Today I tried Suzy on the fourth floor. Morena clara, cute, innocent look, slim and a round little butt. The tits turned out to be a deception, small and saggy. The vagina was quite impressive, tight and thick like a hamburger. Suzy does a very good BBBJ and performs well, but no anal. No problem taking photos. Thanks for the intel Sperto. My favorite is the tall blonde in 707. She's completa with a nice bombom. I don't care for the others there. I enjoy centro casas and termas. I finally got a girl from Rua branco to give me here number and we ate at Porcao. She did TLN for R$200, but I was kinda pissed that she asked for the money first. I guess from working the casa she expected the money up front. I enjoy dating the girls from Cancun. 502 and 4x4. They seem very appreciative to go out for dinner dates, something they don't get often.
Rico Smooth
01-06-11, 03:57
Thanks for the intel Sperto. My favorite is the tall blonde in 707. She's completa with a nice bombom. I don't care for the others there. I enjoy centro casas and termas. I finally got a girl from Rua branco to give me here number and we ate at Porcao. She did TLN for R$200, but I was kinda pissed that she asked for the money first. I guess from working the casa she expected the money up front. I enjoy dating the girls from Cancun. 502 and 4x4. They seem very appreciative to go out for dinner dates, something they don't get often.A true playa can have fun without club help. Cheers.
My favorite is the tall blonde in 707. She's completa with a nice bombom. I don't care for the others there.That must be Kelly. She's great. Neither do I care for the others at 707. However two years ago they had a very beautiful morena with green eyes working at 707.
We made this our first ever Terma visit last night and we were all wondering what the hell we were walking into. Not sure why but I was expecting a big sign saying T502, which clearly wasn't the case.
Seemed a decent enough area. Up the stairs and into the bar, where there didn't seem to be a lot of girls working, but later found out there was a whiskeria which we didn't see on entry.
There seems to be more of the slim type girls here and there were a few cuties knocking around. After a little bit, some girl came up and started chatting, which didn't go too far as we don't speak Porto. It turned into a good laugh with sign language galore, but then a bigger girl but pretty face spoke perfect english and helped the chat along.
One of my mates too a tiny little one for an hour, who had a perfect tiny ass and did absolutely everything. I took the english speaking one for an hour (both 160) , but she didn't do CIM although I'd half done it already, but she took it well. Great kisser my one, kind of girl that gets you rock hard just kissing her despite her being on the larger side.
All in all a good start to our terma careers and thanks again has to go to Bubba for pointing us in the right direction.
The one my mate had mentioned she used to work at Luomo and that it's 50 entry and 50 to talk to a girl! That conflicts with what Bubba says, so would like to get that confirmed as we were going to hit that at some point.
Anyone know about that?
We made this our first ever Terma visit last night and we were all wondering what the hell we were walking into. Not sure why but I was expecting a big sign saying T502, which clearly wasn't the case.
Seemed a decent enough area. Up the stairs and into the bar, where there didn't seem to be a lot of girls working, but later found out there was a whiskeria which we didn't see on entry.
There seems to be more of the slim type girls here and there were a few cuties knocking around. After a little bit, some girl came up and started chatting, which didn't go too far as we don't speak Porto. It turned into a good laugh with sign language galore, but then a bigger girl but pretty face spoke perfect english and helped the chat along.
One of my mates too a tiny little one for an hour, who had a perfect tiny ass and did absolutely everything. I took the english speaking one for an hour (both 160) , but she didn't do CIM although I'd half done it already, but she took it well. Great kisser my one, kind of girl that gets you rock hard just kissing her despite her being on the larger side.
All in all a good start to our terma careers and thanks again has to go to Bubba for pointing us in the right direction.
The one my mate had mentioned she used to work at Luomo and that it's 50 entry and 50 to talk to a girl! That conflicts with what Bubba says, so would like to get that confirmed as we were going to hit that at some point.
Anyone know about that? Good to see you guys had a decent start with 502. I personally don't think 502 is a real terma in that you do not need to get changed into a Robe, but good to see you had a decent start. BTW. 502 is very slow right now because it is just 1 week after Christmas, they really only have a skeleton staff on. Before Christmas is was friggin busy as hell.
Luomo: I am thinking there was some mis communication going on. Lumo is about R$ 70 to enter (they have specials from time to time with discount). There is no fee to talk to a girl, in fact you can pretty much feel a girl right up and kiss her etc, she will grab your dick and you only pay when you actually go to the room with her. The room fee is about R$70 and the girl fee is fixed at R$170. Hence the R$310 for a standard 40minute session plus drinks. Luomo is more a true Terma in that you must get into a robe, it is also aimed more at tourists, hence more english speakers are present. Having said this, the act in the room is exactly the same, hence I spend more time in centro places now than in Copacabana T's. Just more value for me, more "bang" for your buck! No pun intended!
Ok thanks for the confirmation BB.
BTW, not sure if you fancy it or not, but we're here until Tuesday and could be cool to meet up for a drink or 2 if you fancy it? No worries if not mate.
Good to see you guys had a decent start with 502. I personally don't think 502 is a real terma in that you do not need to get changed into a Robe, but good to see you had a decent start. BTW. 502 is very slow right now because it is just 1 week after Christmas, they really only have a skeleton staff on. Before Christmas is was friggin busy as hell.
Luomo: I am thinking there was some mis communication going on. Lumo is about R$ 70 to enter (they have specials from time to time with discount). There is no fee to talk to a girl, in fact you can pretty much feel a girl right up and kiss her etc, she will grab your dick and you only pay when you actually go to the room with her. The room fee is about R$70 and the girl fee is fixed at R$170. Hence the R$310 for a standard 40minute session plus drinks. Luomo is more a true Terma in that you must get into a robe, it is also aimed more at tourists, hence more english speakers are present. Having said this, the act in the room is exactly the same, hence I spend more time in centro places now than in Copacabana T's. Just more value for me, more "bang" for your buck! No pun intended!
Member #3439
01-07-11, 08:04
Is Clube 53 (Rua Sa' Ferreira. 53 in Copa) still open? If so, has anybody been there lately and how was it? If I remember correctly, it was managed by the Bar 22 guy so maybe worth checking out.
Also, has anyone been to Termas Black and White lately, in Bonsuccesso?
Once I figure out how to ride the bus there from Praca Tiradentes, B&W is at top on my list due a first rate experience I had last June at Club Florida with an off-duty B&W girl. Every bus seems to stop at Praca Tiradentes, but I can never even figure out which one is going to Praca Maua let alone Bonsuccesso. Thats why I've never gotten to B&W yet.
I went by 53 yesterday in the afternoon and then later after midnight and it looked closed. I did go to 22 yesterday and it seem like they are under new management now. BRL 15 entrance with 3 beers that is paid BEFORE entering. Prices for the girls are the same as before.
Is Clube 53 (Rua Sa' Ferreira. 53 in Copa) still open? If so, has anybody been there lately and how was it? If I remember correctly, it was managed by the Bar 22 guy so maybe worth checking out.
Also, has anyone been to Termas Black and White lately, in Bonsuccesso? I tried checking out Club 53 when I was in Rio in November. It is in a 3 story building, the door with number 53 on it is shut and locked and the third floor of the building is burnt out. So I guess the club is closed due to fire damage?
I also said I would check out B&W in my last week in Rio in November, but that coincided with "a guerra" in Zona Norte, so I didn't venture up North. I'd like to hear any reports before my return to Rio in June.
Poucolouco
01-07-11, 20:15
I tried checking out Club 53 when I was in Rio in November. It is in a 3 story building, the door with number 53 on it is shut and locked and the third floor of the building is burnt out. So I guess the club is closed due to fire damage?
They had a fire in August and have not reopened. Here's the article from ODIA:
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2010/8/incendio_destroi_termas_em_copacabana_104767.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1109903]Also, has anyone been to Termas Black and White lately, in Bonsuccesso?
I went to Black and White in August 2010. It was okay. Drinks were cheap. The music was good. The crowd was lively. However, the girl to guy ratio was very poor. There were some nice looking girls, but simply not enough girls. Most girls were already being groped by guys with ill intentions when I entered. Any unaccompanied girl that entered the bar was quickly spotted and surrounded by several rowdy men who were all simultaneously vying for her attention. After watching the scene for a while, I strategically set up shop near the entrance so that I could intercept any potential target as soon as she entered. My strategy paid off. I did manage to grab a slim, well-built. 19 year old, chocolate cutie named Karla. She was a little inexperienced, but she was very enthusiastic. She was also completa. Cost was R$70 for 30 minutes. The cabin was less than average in quality, clean but outdated with poor lighting. I returned to B&W in November looking for a specific girl I had seen in August. The ratio of guys to girls was again very poor, and it was Friday. The girl I wanted was not there, and I left without doing a session in November. I think it is worth a look if you interested, but I did not find B&W enticing enough to warrant multiple visits in August or November. Both times I went on a Friday night, and perhaps the ratio of guys to girls is more favorable on other nights of the week. I return to Rio in 10 days. I will likely make it to Bonsuccesso at least once during my stay. If so I will give a more up-to-date account.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1109903]Also, has anyone been to Termas Black and White lately, in Bonsuccesso?
I went to Black and White in August 2010. It was okay. Drinks were cheap. The music was good. The crowd was lively. However, the girl to guy ratio was very poor. I think it is worth a look if you interested, but I did not find B&W enticing enough to warrant multiple visits in August or November. Both times I went on a Friday night, and perhaps the ratio of guys to girls is more favorable on other nights of the week. I return to Rio in 10 days. I will likely make it to Bonsuccesso at least once during my stay. If so I will give a more up-to-date account. How did you travel out there?
[QUOTE=Trifecta; 1110131]How did you travel out there?I went with a group of friends both trips. There were 4 of us. A Brazilian friend drove us there. We have developed a relationship with this particular Brazilian over the years. While we do pay him, it is not nearly as much as we would pay a cab driver to get there and back. We paid him R$80 total which included stops at Black and White and Rio's American Bar. He was with us from 8p-1:30a. We stopped for food on the way back to Copa. Then he dropped each of us off at our apartment buildings. My portion of the transportation cost was only R$20, plus two coca-colas that I bought the driver at B&W. I am not sure how to get there by bus or metro. I too would be interested in knowing how to do it.
[QUOTE=Bravo; 1110156]I am not sure how to get there by bus or metro. I too would be interested in knowing how to do it.The address is Avenida Paris 634 in Bonsucesso. Did a bit of a websearch.
Its nowhere near a metro stop. The nearest would be Maria de Graca and then take a taxi? It looks like 2 miles from the metro station to B&W on the map.
My Portuguese is not great but it looks like you can catch a Supervia train on the Saracuruna line from the Central train station in Centro. Looking at the timetable (attached) the trains are frequent and it takes 18 minutes. I've never use the urban train network in Rio so I don't know what it is like. From the map it looks like Av. Paris is on the other side of the main road from the train station and about a 750 m walk to the Termas.
The weblink is:
http://www.supervia.com.br/site/abrangencias_e_mapas.php
I believe Puta Playa did some research into which bus to take. The problem would be knowing which at which stop to get of the bus on your first trip out there!
Hope this helps.
You can catch a van on Ave. NS for R$5. If I am not mistaken, it is Ponte 8/9 where you disembark. Local VW vans are R$2/3. Watch your back out there. Stay low, stay fast. Good hunting.
[QUOTE=Bravo; 1110156]I went with a group of friends both trips. There were 4 of us. A Brazilian friend drove us there. We have developed a relationship with this particular Brazilian over the years. While we do pay him, it is not nearly as much as we would pay a cab driver to get there and back. We paid him R$80 total which included stops at Black and White and Rio's American Bar. He was with us from 8p-1:30a. We stopped for food on the way back to Copa. Then he dropped each of us off at our apartment buildings. My portion of the transportation cost was only R$20, plus two coca-colas that I bought the driver at B&W. I am not sure how to get there by bus or metro. I too would be interested in knowing how to do it.
Member #3439
01-08-11, 20:51
[QUOTE=Trifecta; 1110277]The address is Avenida Paris 634 in Bonsucesso. Did a bit of a websearch.
Its nowhere near a metro stop. The nearest would be Maria de Graca and then take a taxi? It looks like 2 miles from the metro station to B&W on the map.
I believe Puta Playa did some research into which bus to take. The problem would be knowing which at which stop to get of the bus on your first trip out there!
Yes, I did post bus info after seeing on Google Streetview that the 497 onibus stops right in front of B&W. See the link below. The 498 circular seems like a good option coming from Centro too, but it goes into kms and kms of favela before coming back to Centro. I don't see any schedules, if there even are any.
http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/consultas/consulta-numero.asp?numero=497&ts=A
http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/consultas/consulta-numero.asp?numero=498&ts=A
I like what you said, take the train from Central to Bonsuccesso Station and walk down Paris Ave. But if the place is good, it warrants a long night and the train might not be running then. For anyone going, I think it's good to do research in advance in case the train is not running. Like to find a different bus route to take you back from B&W to wherever you're going, say from the big street Ave Brasil that is around the corner.
This is good ISG material. To me, good mongering experiences are 30% about having the logistics down in advance so you aren't stressed out. Then 50% is about screening girls. Then the balance is in the details like cleanliness of the casa, prices, etc that we usually talk about.
So I think I'll learn the bus routes to and from B&W, but just use it as a backup plan. I recently learned the hard and very expensive way in another developing country about riding buses in offbeat urban areas. You can exude confidence, dress down, speak the language and all that. But if your skin color or accent is wrong, you're screwed. They know you DO have money on you, probably aren't armed due to having flown in, and there is no crowd justice from bystanders so. Like Amerioca said. Gotta watch our backs and stay low. If not, stay fast.
After two years remodeling, The Hotel Le Méridien "soft" reopened as the Hotel Windser Atlantica on 12/31/10 in Leme. Only 120 rooms are currently available between the 21st and 35th floors. (The hotel has 39 floors.) The hotel is scheduled to officially open on Feb 20th. Rooms start at $R490 per day. A 5 night stay during Carnaval will cost you R$2364. 00.
I post this information, as there was speculation that a Night Club, a New "Help," was being installed in the facility. There is no mention of a nightclub at the hotel's website nor in the Oglobo report. But it has a bar. Anyone on the ground care to check it out?
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2011/01/08/depois-de-reforma-que-se-estendeu-por-dois-anos-predio-do-antigo-meridien-renasce-como-windsor-atlantica-923456034.asp
http://www.windsorhoteis.com.br/br/hoteis/Windsor_Atlantica-12-apresentacao.aspx
Don't raise your hopes too much. This is an old, fuddy duddy management style hotel where they frown at the kind of activities we love and enjoy. There would be a lot of bobbing and weaving, cloak and dagger to get any kind of play out of the place. Worst of all we are hoping they let the old Help atmostphere in their building? Never say never, but I must say, that is a one in one million chance of that happening there.
After two years remodeling, The Hotel Le Méridien "soft" reopened as the Hotel Windser Atlantica on 12/31/10 in Leme. Only 120 rooms are currently available between the 21st and 35th floors. (The hotel has 39 floors.) The hotel is scheduled to officially open on Feb 20th. Rooms start at $R490 per day. A 5 night stay during Carnaval will cost you R$2364. 00.
I post this information, as there was speculation that a Night Club, a New "Help," was being installed in the facility. There is no mention of a nightclub at the hotel's website nor in the Oglobo report. But it has a bar. Anyone on the ground care to check it out?
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2011/01/08/depois-de-reforma-que-se-estendeu-por-dois-anos-predio-do-antigo-meridien-renasce-como-windsor-atlantica-923456034.asp
http://www.windsorhoteis.com.br/br/hoteis/Windsor_Atlantica-12-apresentacao.aspx
Don't raise your hopes too much. This is an old, fuddy duddy management style hotel where they frown at the kind of activities we love and enjoy. There would be a lot of bobbing and weaving, cloak and dagger to get any kind of play out of the place. Worst of all we are hoping they let the old Help atmostphere in their building? Never say never, but I must say, that is a one in one million chance of that happening there.I think guys need to be happy that we at least have Balcony and Dolce Vida! It may not be equal to Help, but at least its something! We can forget about there being another Help in copa until at least the Olympics are over.
[QUOTE=Trifecta; 1110277]The address is Avenida Paris 634 in Bonsucesso. Did a bit of a websearch.
Its nowhere near a metro stop. The nearest would be Maria de Graca and then take a taxi? It looks like 2 miles from the metro station to B&W on the map.
My Portuguese is not great but it looks like you can catch a Supervia train on the Saracuruna line from the Central train station in Centro. Looking at the timetable (attached) the trains are frequent and it takes 18 minutes. I've never use the urban train network in Rio so I don't know what it is like. From the map it looks like Av. Paris is on the other side of the main road from the train station and about a 750 m walk to the Termas.
The weblink is:
http://www.supervia.com.br/site/abrangencias_e_mapas.php
I believe Puta Playa did some research into which bus to take. The problem would be knowing which at which stop to get of the bus on your first trip out there!
Hope this helps.I ventured out and went there this past November with a local friend; not worth the risk! This place is a hole in the wall reminded me of an old biker bar! Bonsucesso is also very dangerous I get out in Rio and venture everywhere but this was the only spot that felt. Well just not right, speaking of the neighborhood!
The talent was not very good maybe one doable, I counted 7 girls when I was there; in my opinion not worth the long ride or the possible risk!
If any one is interested, the porn star Claudia Bella is now working at Luomo. She is not as hot as she once was but such is life.
Brazil Rio
01-10-11, 13:16
Hi,
I am a Rio native and I recommend you, foreigners to avoid suburb trains (supervia). It is complicated to use, dirt and it can be dangerous sometimes get a cab. R$50 (max) and avoid problems.
BR
Hi,
I am a Rio native and I recommend you, foreigners to avoid suburb trains (supervia). It is complicated to use, dirt and it can be dangerous sometimes get a cab. R$50 (max) and avoid problems.
BRThat is the strangest thing I have ever heard. I catch the trains everywhere in Rio, have been doing this for years. They are clean, easy to use, safe and cheap. I have seen very little if any problems on the trains.
Beach Star
01-10-11, 17:24
That is the strangest thing I have ever heard. I catch the trains everywhere in Rio, have been doing this for years. They are clean, easy to use, safe and cheap. I have seen very little if any problems on the trains.He means the overland trains, Supervia, not the metro, and is correct. They are also badly maintained and often overcrowded.
He means the overland trains, Supervia, not the metro, and is correct. They are also badly maintained and often overcrowded.OK I understand now, I just got confused by him referring to them as "suburban trains", which where I am from means normal metro trains.
Sunset Strip
01-10-11, 18:57
Oh, yeah, the overland trains are the ones that have non-fare paying people "surfing" on the top of the rail cars and hanging on the sides and back!
SS
Ipanema Carioca
01-10-11, 23:23
Hi,
I am a Rio native and I recommend you, foreigners to avoid suburb trains (supervia). It is complicated to use, dirt and it can be dangerous sometimes get a cab. R$50 (max) and avoid problems.
BRI rode those trains from centro train station in Rio to Madureira. About a 30-45 minute ride. The trains look like 1960s Amtrak trains. A lot of beautiful women on them. My wingman and I took the cab back to Copa. THese trains are not as wel kept as the metro trains, and there seemed to be a far different class of people, like poorer. When we got of in Madureira, people were saying "Americanos" often in ear shot. It was strange to hear it, us being two black Americans. The further you go in the state of Rio, not the city, many people are not use to hearing english or seeing tourists.
Ipanema Carioca
01-11-11, 20:24
I rode those trains from centro train station in Rio to Madureira. About a 30-45 minute ride. The trains look like 1960s Amtrak trains. A lot of beautiful women on them. My wingman and I took the cab back to Copa. THese trains are not as wel kept as the metro trains, and there seemed to be a far different class of people, like poorer. When we got of in Madureira, people were saying "Americanos" often in ear shot. It was strange to hear it, us being two black Americans. The further you go in the state of Rio, not the city, many people are not use to hearing english or seeing tourists.I felt pretty safe on the train. Great experience, and I may do it again.
Mr Enternational
01-11-11, 21:57
I am a Rio native and I recommend you, foreigners to avoid suburb trains (supervia). It is complicated to use, dirt and it can be dangerous sometimes get a cab. R$50 (max) and avoid problems.If I don't see locals paying R$50 for taxis then I damn sure am not doing it. I will be right on the train or bus with them. In any city you go to on this planet the locals who don't get out much will always say don't do this, don't do that, don't go here, don't go there, too dangerous, etc. I have never had a problem anywhere ever and I have been known to hang out and go to some shady places in all parts of the world. Don't depend on someone else opinion because there are different strokes for different folks. Check it out and form your own opinion.
Member #3439
01-13-11, 05:08
In any city you go to on this planet the locals who don't get out much will always say don't do this, don't do that, don't go here, don't go there, too dangerous, etc.Quotes from my Carioca work colleagues:.
"Windsor Guanabara? In Centro? I would not be there in that area after dark or even daytime on weekend."
"Copacabana is no good. Don't go there. It is nothing but prostitutes and bandits around."
The guys I know have favela girls they bang on the side in love motels in more upscale neighborhoods So they don't have the experience of the hobbyists or the will to stroll Rua Acre, VM, Siqueira Campos, etc middle of the night like a hobbyist. I think most Brasilians with decent income have a better arrangement and don't get into the stuff we do. They miss all the fun at night in Centro, like some of my favorite experiences: :)
8 pm - The Scandal - seeing a van load of cops beat down a street vendor and tipping over his portable churrascaria grill along Ave Rio Branco, then taking the cooked sticks back to their police van to eat, etc.
9 pm - The Odd - getting sexually harrassed by the Rio's oldest geriatric GP who hangs out outside Bar Florida, while relaxing in a plastic chair otuside drinking cafezinho to get charged for banging real 20 something GPs inside the bar. Her final lines, 'if you wont fuck me for money, just give me the money, you come fuck these girls every night, you must be rich, its nothing to you. No? You are a liar. Then give me a cigarette. I need a cigarette'
2 am - The Drama - low end GP crying after sex, talking about little baby home in Minas Gerais and showing pictures on her cell, 6 month stint living in the fuck rooms at Florida before she goes home again.
3 am - The Danger- getting attacked by feral dogs in Largo de São Francisco de Paula as I walk back to the hotel.
The guys I know have favela girls they bang on the side in love motels in more upscale neighborhoods So they don't have the experience of the hobbyists.Thats pretty funny. Can't beat baixada or favela girls for some decent action!
Quotes from my Carioca work colleagues:.
They miss all the fun at night in Centro, like some of my favorite experiences:.
8 pm. The Scandal. Seeing a van load of cops beat down a street vendor and tipping over his portable churrascaria grill along Ave Rio Branco, then taking the cooked sticks back to their police van to eat, etc.
9 pm. The Odd. Getting sexually harrassed by the Rio's oldest geriatric GP who hangs out outside Bar Florida, while relaxing in a plastic chair otuside drinking cafezinho to get charged for banging real 20 something GPs inside the bar. Her final lines, 'if you won't fuck me for money, just give me the money, you come fuck these girls every night, you must be rich, its nothing to you. No? You are a liar. Then give me a cigarette. I need a cigarette'
2 am. The Drama. Low end GP crying after sex, talking about little baby home in Minas Gerais and showing pictures on her cell. 6 month stint living in the fuck rooms at Florida before she goes home again.
3 am. The Danger- getting attacked by feral dogs in Largo de São Francisco de Paula as I walk back to the hotel. LMFAO! That about sums up a typical noite novo in Ri-ho! What is worse though, the feral dogs or the new breed of feral GDP's? I had one try to kick in my apt. Door two nights ago at 2am after I told her I was not letting her in (because I was with my novo garota).
As one of my amigo's here told me a couple of months ago,"The girls here don't get mad, they get psychotic"! AFIRMATIVA! This drama did not happen when 'Help' was here (overstating the obvious). That club kept the piranha's separa and tranquilla. Now they're all in a feeding frenzy and going Copa Louca.
Beware. Be very aware.
Member #3439
01-16-11, 08:30
LMFAO! That about sums up a typical noite novo in Ri-ho! What is worse though, the feral dogs or the new breed of feral GDP's? I had one try to kick in my apt. Door two nights ago at 2am after I told her I was not letting her in (because I was with my novo garota).
As one of my amigo's here told me a couple of months ago,"The girls here don't get mad, they get psychotic"! AFIRMATIVA! This drama did not happen when 'Help' was here (overstating the obvious). That club kept the piranha's separa and tranquilla. Now they're all in a feeding frenzy and going Copa Louca.
Beware. Be very aware. Yeah, but in fairness, I think that's just part of the takeout game regardless of location. I got into a similar mess in Indonesia. A girl who goes home alone with gringos has to be a little crazy anyway, at least from a safety perspective.
I think it's more relaxing to just wander like stray dog, stopping at casas, fucking whatever looks good and then wandering away to find something else. The girls who work the apartments/bars/termas are generally fairly well mannered, other than those that sometimes [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in trash cans. In any case, you have no worries about garotas showing up without invitation, or stealing from your room, trying to run paternity scams on you later, or anything else.
Hello, I'm leaving for Rio again from jfk on Thursday 3th February on my own, delta flight change plane in atlanta, anybody going on the same plane? See you in paradise!
HungryStud101
01-21-11, 06:59
Enclosed is my report from Centaurus from my trip late August. I will post in this forum. Key learning. Don't let the Garotas push you into anything. Wait by the stairs for the hot girls to come back down the stairs after their sessions. You can get a DDG 10 this way. You chose the girl and not the other way around. My story is below.
The next day I decided to hit Centaurus. I needed money and I tried to hit up a cash machine. My CC card isn't working. I call the CC company and they say they do not do business in Brazil. They tell me 'Sorry-too much fraud. ' Well fuck you very much! Note# Make sure you let your CC company know that you are in Brasil prior to traveling there so that they don't cut you off. I got a cash advance from the hotel which charged me a fee and pays a poor interest rate but at least I had cash. I showed up at Centaurus at 11:45PM and I paid the 450R$ cash up front (no way am I leaving an electronic trail). I change into my robe and slippers and head upstairs. I walk into the bar and I am alone for a split second. No sooner then that I turn around I am mobbed by four girls. From left to right they were black, Mulatto, brunette and blond. The girls were trying to talk me into a party with all the 4-colors of Brazilian women. I just want a beer and a chance to get acclimated. At my suggestion they start to kiss each other. My heart starts to beat real fast and I am so stiff that I can't even blink! At that moment I felt like 'Old Blue' on Old School. 'Just ring the fucking bell you pansy. ' We all kiss – 5 tongues at once (this can't be sanitary). They are all taking turns stroking my cock. I tell the girls I paid for one relax. I tell them that if they all want to do me for that price than I am fine with it. I eliminate the black and mulatto. I congratulate them because they came in 3rd and 4th. Now I steer Carol the cute 5'9' blond girl to the couch. She brings her friend that I am not too excited about. I am on my second beer and they are telling me that I have to hurry we are running out of time and I need to go downstairs and pay an extra 230R$ for a 3sum. The club closes at 2 AM. I am feeling that they are too pushy and I get up and walk away to find the mulatto and that's when it happened. At that time, walking down the stairs was an angel. She was a 5'5' 115 Lb 20 year old Spanish girl with black hair, an olive complexion, and piercing brown eyes with blue-green eye shadow. She has natural see-cups and is wearing white statin lingerie and spike heels. I swear she had a visible aura or glow like an angel. The other girls that were fighting over me ceased to exist. I could hear the girl form Ipanema playing in my head as she walked across the bar to me.
Tall and tan and young and lovely, the girl from Ipanema goes walking, and when she passes each one she passes goes 'a-a-hh!"
She introduced herself as Bianca. We talked and I started my third beer. She kissed as sensual as the finest girls in Montreal. She is as pretty as Eleganza's Kelli and as cute as Ex E's Alyssa, with a body like the famous Liz. I decided that this is the girl for me for my first relax. She makes a phone call and we climb the stairs. Bianca leaves me in the room to take a shower. She comes back in black lingerie: A black t-back thong and matching bra with black satin cover (I don't know what the fuck this stuff is called but I know what I like). She was so hot I fell to my knees and I started to worship her from the feet up. We go to the bed and we start off by DFK and we disrobe and then I am DATY and Rimming this sex goddess. She gives me a spirited CBJ and then we started MPOS followed by anal. She is crying for me to come in her ass. We switch to CG and she is fucking me violently and she goes from angel to devil. We start to fuck Doggie and she has to pause to put the air conditioning on because we are sweating profusely. I am ramming her big time and the rubber breaks. 'Not so good' says Bianca. She puts a new rubber on my Johnson and rubs lube all over it and we start sport-fucking Mish so we can kiss as I come. I come buckets and she says 'Wew. ' I go downstairs and take a nice shower and go up and grab another beer and talk business with a 61 year old Portuguese man. He says that Centaurus is for tourists but still a good place. I said well this is what I am today! He buys me a few beers and then I meet Celia a 19 year old Portuguese girl. More to come.
After Centaurus closed it's doors at 2AM I decided to find something to eat. I had the cabbie drop me off at a 24 hour restaurant. It was doing a pretty good business. Since Rio is so close to the equater this restaurant, like many others, did not have a door. Anyway, I was halfway through my late night snack when I heard the sound of several men singing coming from outside the restaurant. All of a sudden the men rounded the corner and entered the restaurant. There were 6 or 7 men, all wearing white robes like they wear in the Termas and each one of them had an SP in tow. They were singing what appeared to be a soccer song as they were seated in the back of the restaurant. The light skinned black SPs, all wearing about 5" heels, just smiled as they walked arm-and-arm with their singing men. It was the funniest sight. Everyone in the restaurant was cracking up. My waiter lauged, shook his head, and looked at me and said "Loco." Ahhh what a great atmosphere in Rio De Janeiro!
She gives me a spirited CBJOn top of pay first, pushy girls, and outrageous prices you got CBJ? I am glad you had a good time but you just made me glad that I have never gone to Centaurus.
HungryStud101
01-21-11, 18:47
On top of pay first, pushy girls, and outrageous prices you got CBJ? I am glad you had a good time but you just made me glad that I have never gone to Centaurus.I heard that Centaurus has beautiful girls but has a reputation. Now Bianc was a great kisser and I got anal too for no extra charge. And the rubber broke so she got more than was bargined for anyway. Oh and she was a 10 and not pushy.
I will go to 4x4 and Solarium next time as well. I'm just saying I had fun and it was worth it for me. Now if there is better values out there I want to hear it.
I heard that Centaurus has beautiful girls but has a reputation. Now Bianc was a great kisser and I got anal too for no extra charge.Again, I am glad you had a good time but in a termas you never pay extra for anything. If you get anal, CIM, etc that is just part of the program.
Oh and she was a 10 and not pushy.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have met several ex-Centaurus girls and they were not measurably better looking than the other girls in the termas but on average they were pushier. Most termas girls in my experience are not pushy but how far you let them push is up to you.
Now if there is better values out there I want to hear it.I expect anywhere else you go in Rio will be a better value.
HungryStud101
01-21-11, 23:14
I expect anywhere else you go in Rio will be a better value.Which Termas are your favorites? Do you like the Balconi Bar on Cobacabana? How about Barberella? Any info would be good as I will be going back.
HungryStud101
01-22-11, 03:33
I have enclosed my scouting report for Rio. Some may find it helpful. I originally posted this in another mongers forum. It is certainly not comprehensive but everything reported here is first hand.
I was at the tail end of a whirl wind tour through Latin America. I had little time for the hobby and my two attempts were unsuccessful. Finally I find myself in Rio and my appointments for the afternoon have been cancelled. I call an agency and the person working the phone says 'No way. We are not allowed to send a girl to your hotel, never, never. ' You see in Brasil, prostitution seems to be legal or decriminalized or ignored but unlike Montreal escorts are not allowed to make outcalls to a 3 – 5 star hotels. Typically you have to visit them in a brothel or you pick them up in a bar or off the street and take them to a motel where you pay by the hour. In Brasil the definition of motel is different than the North American definition of motel. The term motel seems to mean adult hotel and I was told that children are not even allowed in a motel.
So I decide that Wednesday night is going to be a scouting night. Against popular advice, I hoped in a cab and I asked the cabbie to take me to the Gentleman's club. He takes me first to Centaurus which is a 'Termas' or Brasilian brothel. I go inside to find out what the rules are. The lady at the door says that there is a 450R$ up front fee. Of that fee. 120$R is the entrance fee and 330$R is for the 'first relax. ' A 'relax' with a girl is a maximum of 40 minutes with 1 SOG if I understood her correctly. Each additional 'relax' is 330 R$. The exchange rate for the USD in Brasil is 1USD equals anywhere from 1. 62-1. 8 Real (R$). Centaurus was offering 1. 7R$ per 1 USD$ for cash. Also, if you wanted to pay with a credit card the up front fee for Centaurus is 470R$ (20 additional R$) Also drinks are extra and a beer was 5R$ each. Next, the cabbie took me to Barbarellas. http://www.gringo-rio.com/strip-clubs-in-rio.html This club charges 60R$ to get in. For this you get 2 drinks and you can watch the strip show. There are 30 or 20+ girls walking around. If you strike a deal with one of them you can take them out of the bar by paying their bar fine of 60R$. I walked around inside the club and I observed a few interesting girls but I decided to leave to visit the next site. Outside there are hookers on the street leaning against cars. Across the street is a swingers club. We go down the street to another club. I walk in and I am the only one in there. Next we drive down the Copacabana Beach on the Ave. Atlantica. All along the avenue there are cars parked with girls leaning against or sitting on the hood. I spot a real hottie and I ask the cabbie to stop. I get out and approach the hottie in question and determine that she is not really a girl. She looks damn good anyway and her starting price was 150R$. I get back in and we drive to the Balconi Bar. I get out and again there are 20+ working girls and I am approached by a few of them. I have two separate conversations with two pretty light black girls and they both tell me 300R$. Also there is no enterance fee or bar fine. I get the feeling that you can probably can talk them down a bit.
I decide to terminate my scouting trip and I decide that I will go to Centaurus the next night because they have the reputation of having the best girls and I do not have to pay the extra expense of a motel room which adds 39R$-180R$/hour and an extra level of complexity. I paid the cabbie 55R$ for an hour scouting trip and decided to call it a night.
Enclosed is my report from Centaurus from my trip late August. I will post in this forum. Key learning. Don't let the Garotas push you into anything. Wait by the stairs for the hot girls to come back down the stairs after their sessions. You can get a DDG 10 this way. You chose the girl and not the other way around. My story is below.
The next day I decided to hit Centaurus. I needed money and I tried to hit up a cash machine. My CC card isn't working. I call the CC company and they say they do not do business in Brazil. They tell me 'Sorry-too much fraud. ' Well fuck you very much! Note# Make sure you let your CC company know that you are in Brasil prior to traveling there so that they don't cut you off. I got a cash advance from the hotel which charged me a fee and pays a poor interest rate but at least I had cash. I showed up at Centaurus at 11:45PM and I paid the 450R$ cash up front (no way am I leaving an electronic trail). I change into my robe and slippers and head upstairs. I walk into the bar and I am alone for a split second. No sooner then that I turn around I am mobbed by four girls. From left to right they were black, Mulatto, brunette and blond. The girls were trying to talk me into a party with all the 4-colors of Brazilian women. I just want a beer and a chance to get acclimated. At my suggestion they start to kiss each other. My heart starts to beat real fast and I am so stiff that I can't even blink! At that moment I felt like 'Old Blue' on Old School. 'Just ring the fucking bell you pansy. ' We all kiss – 5 tongues at once (this can't be sanitary). They are all taking turns stroking my cock. I tell the girls I paid for one relax. I tell them that if they all want to do me for that price than I am fine with it. I eliminate the black and mulatto. I congratulate them because they came in 3rd and 4th. Now I steer Carol the cute 5'9' blond girl to the couch. She brings her friend that I am not too excited about. I am on my second beer and they are telling me that I have to hurry we are running out of time and I need to go downstairs and pay an extra 230R$ for a 3sum. The club closes at 2 AM. I am feeling that they are too pushy and I get up and walk away to find the mulatto and that's when it happened. At that time, walking down the stairs was an angel. She was a 5'5' 115 Lb 20 year old Spanish girl with black hair, an olive complexion, and piercing brown eyes with blue-green eye shadow. She has natural see-cups and is wearing white statin lingerie and spike heels. I swear she had a visible aura or glow like an angel. The other girls that were fighting over me ceased to exist. I could hear the girl form Ipanema playing in my head as she walked across the bar to me.
Tall and tan and young and lovely, the girl from Ipanema goes walking, and when she passes each one she passes goes 'a-a-hh!"
She introduced herself as Bianca. We talked and I started my third beer. She kissed as sensual as the finest girls in Montreal. She is as pretty as Eleganza's Kelli and as cute as Ex E's Alyssa, with a body like the famous Liz. I decided that this is the girl for me for my first relax. She makes a phone call and we climb the stairs. Bianca leaves me in the room to take a shower. She comes back in black lingerie: A black t-back thong and matching bra with black satin cover (I don't know what the fuck this stuff is called but I know what I like). She was so hot I fell to my knees and I started to worship her from the feet up. We go to the bed and we start off by DFK and we disrobe and then I am DATY and Rimming this sex goddess. She gives me a spirited CBJ and then we started MPOS followed by anal. She is crying for me to come in her ass. We switch to CG and she is fucking me violently and she goes from angel to devil. We start to fuck Doggie and she has to pause to put the air conditioning on because we are sweating profusely. I am ramming her big time and the rubber breaks. 'Not so good' says Bianca. She puts a new rubber on my Johnson and rubs lube all over it and we start sport-fucking Mish so we can kiss as I come. I come buckets and she says 'Wew. ' I go downstairs and take a nice shower and go up and grab another beer and talk business with a 61 year old Portuguese man. He says that Centaurus is for tourists but still a good place. I said well this is what I am today! He buys me a few beers and then I meet Celia a 19 year old Portuguese girl. More to come.
After Centaurus closed it's doors at 2AM I decided to find something to eat. I had the cabbie drop me off at a 24 hour restaurant. It was doing a pretty good business. Since Rio is so close to the equater this restaurant, like many others, did not have a door. Anyway, I was halfway through my late night snack when I heard the sound of several men singing coming from outside the restaurant. All of a sudden the men rounded the corner and entered the restaurant. There were 6 or 7 men, all wearing white robes like they wear in the Termas and each one of them had an SP in tow. They were singing what appeared to be a soccer song as they were seated in the back of the restaurant. The light skinned black SPs, all wearing about 5" heels, just smiled as they walked arm-and-arm with their singing men. It was the funniest sight. Everyone in the restaurant was cracking up. My waiter lauged, shook his head, and looked at me and said "Loco." Ahhh what a great atmosphere in Rio De Janeiro!
Which Termas are your favorites?4x4, L'uomo, Monte Carlo.
Do you like the Balconi Bar on Cobacabana?It is ok. If I take a girl from there I prefer that she be a termas girl.
How about Barberella?Never been there.
Next, the cabbie took me to Barbarellas.
Across the street is a swingers club. Swing club, Really? Can you enlighten us on this? Is this something new? Directly across from Barbarellas is Nogueira, a late night restaurant with GDP's. Next door to that is El Cid, another restaurant. Are you talking about the place on the corner? (Av. Princesa Isabel & R. Ministro Viveiros de Castro) The old La Cicciolina, (I think its called Mermaids now,) a Bar, similar to Barbarellas, but much cheaper.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=rio+de+janeiro, +BR&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US352&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Rio+de+Janeiro, +Brazil&gl=us&ei=XuA6TZDyCMP-8AazwoT6Cg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ8gEwAA
Which Termas are your favorites? Do you like the Balconi Bar on Cobacabana? How about Barberella? Any info would be good as I will be going back.As far as terms, I have been to Rio a few times and have only visited Luomas, Centaurus, and the Monte Carlo. The one that I have enjoyed the most is the Luoma Club. I usually end up going there 2 or 3 nights in a row. I have never visited Barerella or the Balconi Bar.
Have fun in Rio!
Exec Talent
01-22-11, 20:19
Rio had a local holiday on Thursday and the pickings have been slim at Balcony since then. I did manage to hook up with a very attractive and sweet mulata who goes by the name Thais. You will know her by her pretty smile, girl next door look and beautiful flowing natural black hair. She used to work at Help before having a baby. When I asked her how much she said R$150. R$200. After, she was not in any hurry to leave and in fact she fell asleep and I had to wake her up. If you are looking for a pretty, sweet, no drama girl she would be a good choice. She does not speak any English outside of the basics.
HungryStud101
01-22-11, 22:09
Gee Whiz Java man. I don't remember. I didn't go in. I saw couples and the cabbie told me it was a swing club. I did go into Barberellas though and all the other places. I didn't go in because I had no interest in swing clubs because I had no S. O. To swing with so I could be wrong.
Swing club, Really? Can you enlighten us on this? Is this something new? Directly across from Barbarellas is Nogueira, a late night restaurant with GDP's. Next door to that is El Cid, another restaurant. Are you talking about the place on the corner? (Av. Princesa Isabel & R. Ministro Viveiros de Castro) The old La Cicciolina, (I think its called Mermaids now,) a Bar, similar to Barbarellas, but much cheaper.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=rio+de+janeiro, +BR&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US352&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Rio+de+Janeiro, +Brazil&gl=us&ei=XuA6TZDyCMP-8AazwoT6Cg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ8gEwAA
Misinformation
01-24-11, 05:35
I used to travel to Brazil often around 2003 when $1USD=R3. 6. Then things were very cheap. 9's in Help asked 200R, I rent a decent apt on Ave Nossa Sra for 60R per night. Outstanding hotels in Buzios were R90. 1 real for a beer, etc.
In 2003 R200 = $55. Now R200 = $118. I had a girlfriend in Copacabana. 3 week vacation I would bring $3000 and we would travel to Buzios or Parati or fly to Porto Seguro or Salvador and we would go shopping almost every day and eat in nice restaurants and drink every night and stay in nice places and rent a car or buggy. In Rio I would stay in her apartment but sometimes when we had rental car we would stay at motels, R50 with dinner and breakfast and jacuzzi.
It seemed ridiculous at the time. Very very very cheap. Now I think more expensive. That meal in 2003 was R60. It is still R60 or maybe R80.
Tell me people. Is it 3x more expensive in brazil now?
Brazil way more expensive now I think. Thinking of going back.
Any newbies reading this. Go to Brazil. It is wonderful. There is no place on earth like it.
Mr Enternational
01-24-11, 06:05
I used to travel to Brazil often around 2003 when $1USD=R3. 6. Then things were very cheap. 9's in Help asked 200R, I rent a decent apt on Ave Nossa Sra for 60R per night. Outstanding hotels in Buzios were R90. 1 real for a beer, etc.
In 2003 R200 = $55. Now R200 = $118. I had a girlfriend in Copacabana. 3 week vacation I would bring $3000.
Brazil way more expensive now I think. Thinking of going back.
Any newbies reading this. Go to Brazil. It is wonderful. There is no place on earth like it. LOL. It's ironic that you talk about how expensive it is now versus 2003 then switch to you are thinking of going back. I would have told the newbies the same thing back then. But today I would tell them 1) to bring $6000 and a bunch of headache medicine for dealing with these days' hard headed garotas. 2) Unless they plan on sticking to the downtown casas. Or 3) fuck the bullshit. Take your original $3000 to Pattaya and live like a king for a couple of weeks and go home with 1000+ change to use for next time.
Ipanema Carioca
01-24-11, 07:43
LOL. It's ironic that you talk about how expensive it is now versus 2003 then switch to you are thinking of going back. I would have told the newbies the same thing back then. But today I would tell them 1) to bring $6000 and a bunch of headache medicine for dealing with these days' hard headed garotas. 2) Unless they plan on sticking to the downtown casas. Or 3) fuck the bullshit. Take your original $3000 to Pattaya and live like a king for a couple of weeks and go home with 1000+ change to use for next time.Sosua, DR at #8 pesos per $1US. My friends call DR either "baby Brazil" or the "Poor man's" Brazil
Swing club, Really? Can you enlighten us on this? Is this something new? Directly across from Barbarellas is Nogueira, a late night restaurant with GDP's. Next door to that is El Cid, another restaurant. Are you talking about the place on the corner? (Av. Princesa Isabel & R. Ministro Viveiros de Castro) The old La Cicciolina, (I think its called Mermaids now,) a Bar, similar to Barbarellas, but much cheaper.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=rio+de+janeiro, +BR&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US352&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Rio+de+Janeiro, +Brazil&gl=us&ei=XuA6TZDyCMP-8AazwoT6Cg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ8gEwAAI know of no swing club at this location, although that doesn't mean there isn't one. Seems unlikely. The closest one I know of is called 2x2 and is on Figueiredo in Copa.
I used to travel to Brazil often around 2003 when $1USD=R3. 6. Then things were very cheap. 9's in Help asked 200R, I rent a decent apt on Ave Nossa Sra for 60R per night. Outstanding hotels in Buzios were R90. 1 real for a beer, etc.
It seemed ridiculous at the time. Very very very cheap. Now I think more expensive. That meal in 2003 was R60. It is still R60 or maybe R80. I am not sure where you are getting that information unless you confuse periods with question marks. Brazil runs about 5-10% inflation so that 60 real dinner could easily be 100 now.
Tell me people. Is it 3x more expensive in brazil now?Easily.
I used to travel to Brazil often around 2003 when $1USD=R3. 6. Then things were very cheap. 9's in Help asked 200R, I rent a decent apt on Ave Nossa Sra for 60R per night. Outstanding hotels in Buzios were R90. 1 real for a beer, etc.
Tell me people. Is it 3x more expensive in brazil now?
Brazil way more expensive now I think. Thinking of going back.
Any newbies reading this. Go to Brazil. It is wonderful. There is no place on earth like it. I agree: There is no place on earth like it. But being in Rio for the last weeks, I'd have to say this is getting more expensive by the minute.
The problem: The Real is going up and inflation is going up. Both. Your Euros / Dollars are worth less and there's a quite high inflation going on.
The new government just rised interest rates trying to stop inflation. We'll see.
Still, at least compared with Europe, almost everything is a little cheaper (but no more dirty-cheap).
And the price of termas? I'd say similar to european houses. But the brazilian girls are still hotter and better.
I had fun.
Exec Talent
01-24-11, 16:32
The crowd at Balcony is starting to remind me of the bar scene from Star Wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFXM0_bg7g
And, not talking just about the girls. If you are clean cut decent looking guy I think you will have no trouble getting one of the few attractive girls for R$150. R$200 over night. The alternatives for them is not pretty.
The crowd at Balcony is starting to remind me of the bar scene from Star Wars.Definitely! Couldn't agree with you more!
Robert Cox
01-25-11, 07:47
I'm a newbie. I started going to Brazil (mainly Rio) in 2008 and go each year. I think we'll benefit from Brazil's inflation in long run. Here's my rational: Between now and the World Cup and then the Olympics. Prices of everything will push up. This will benefit the wealthy and upper middle class (the educated) but there will be no "trickle down" economics in Brazil. In the short run the girls, the clubs and hotels will ask for more money but this will choke out all but the luxury market traveler / consumer. Only a small part of this market will be mongers. As people in Brazil's (specifically Rio) tourist economy compete for a smaller pool of customers (mongers) prices will come down. However, as the gap between the rich and poor grow so will crime.
I think the Real is overvalued and kept artificially inflated like the Yuan. Unless Rouseff gets the inflation down, what I have outlined above will result. Just my two cents. In the meantime, let's all make lots of $$$ so price won't matter!
Brasil is for playas who are War criminals with stolen money to burn. Not for the hard working guys who earn an honest buck. 1 dolla is pretty much 1 real. And the hookas want upwards of 500 Real? Are you kidding? This is the third world and they want outrageous sums of cash for what? Brasilian bitchs love sex and give it up for FREE to any cool guy, I know because I bang them all the time for FREE. But when you are desperate and go to the clubs they smell it, but asking for hundreds come on. Are you guys that desperate? Maybe so. And with the olympics, world cup, oil discoveries, contracts with China, brasil looks to be the powerhouse of latin america like Argentina NEVER was.
If you are not a war criminal then stay far far far away from brasil. Its a shame because once upon a time brasil was cool and affordable, but with time things do change
Devilspinkick
01-25-11, 21:56
Yeh, Brazil is more expensive now. So what's the big deal? Times change. Sometimes costs go up. Sometimes costs go down.
Rio is still a primo destination as far as I'm concerned. I would visit Brazil even if it wasn't a great place to P4P, but it happens to be a great place to "hobby" if you know what you are doing. Sadly there are too many newbies making the same newbie mistakes that guys made 20 years ago. I guess that will never change.
But there isn't much point in complaining about the increase in costs (it's not as if the Brazilian gov. is going to care about what a relatively small group of *****mongers think). The market will correct itself eventually. Until then either suck it up and pay the higher costs (my preferred course) or fly to cheaper locations like Mexico, SEA, or Africa where the costs are much lower - as well as the quality.
I get back to Rio early next month and I'm certainly looking forward to more time in the Cidade Maravilhoso.
"O tempora, o mores"
- DSK
The crowd at Balcony is starting to remind me of the bar scene from Star Wars.LOL. Yeah, Baggio just sent me text from Balcony, and said the usual GDPs are present. BTW, Mark Hamill went to my HS.
As people in Brazil's (specifically Rio) tourist economy compete for a smaller pool of customers (mongers) prices will come down.I hope you are right but I do not think so. Perhaps you have heard of the "Brazilian Business Model" where when you have less customers you RAISE prices.
In case you think this is crazy think of this: When you have a lot of customers they are obviously discerning so you cannot charge too much or they will leave. When you have few customers they are there because they have no choice and you can gouge them.
Mr Enternational
01-26-11, 16:26
I hope you are right but I do not think so. Perhaps you have heard of the "Brazilian Business Model" where when you have less customers you RAISE prices.
In case you think this is crazy think of this: When you have a lot of customers they are obviously discerning so you cannot charge too much or they will leave. When you have few customers they are there because they have no choice and you can gouge them. Thanks for reminding him. I was about to until I saw your post.
As people in Brazil's (specifically Rio) tourist economy compete for a smaller pool of customers (mongers) prices will come down. However, as the gap between the rich and poor grow so will crime.I just had a discussion today about this issue with some brazilians working in the tourism businnes.
The pool of customers for the tourist economy is greater than even. Not gringo tourists because of the expensive real. Not rich brazilian tourists as they go abroad on holiday. The important tourist now is the "turista de Lula". All those average-brazilians that during the last years has gotten a much better financial situation. They have started to travel a lot and they are happy to spend their money. Those are the important tourists, not a few gringo mongers.
This shows clearly in most tourist destinations in Brazil. It's getting harder than ever to find apartments and prices have gone up a lot. The customers are mainly brazilian tourists.
Exec Talent
01-27-11, 01:03
I just had a discussion today about this issue with some brazilians working in the tourism businnes.
The pool of customers for the tourist economy is greater than even. Not gringo tourists because of the expensive real. Not rich brazilian tourists as they go abroad on holiday. The important tourist now is the "turista de Lula". All those average-brazilians that during the last years has gotten a much better financial situation. They have started to travel a lot and they are happy to spend their money. Those are the important tourists, not a few gringo mongers.
This shows clearly in most tourist destinations in Brazil. It's getting harder than ever to find apartments and prices have gone up a lot. The customers are mainly brazilian tourists. I also was discussing these tourists with one of the major apartment agency owners this week. Both the agency and the apartment owners hate having them as clients and would gladly rent to a single guy instead. The reason is simple. They travel with the whole extended family -- 8 to 12 people and stay in one bedroom or two bedroom apartments. A single guy with one or two GDPs coming and going starts to look very appealing.
Brasil is for playas who are War criminals with stolen money to burn. Not for the hard working guys who earn an honest buck. 1 dolla is pretty much 1 real. And the hookas want upwards of 500 Real? Are you kidding? This is the third world and they want outrageous sums of cash for what? Brasilian bitchs love sex and give it up for FREE to any cool guy, I know because I bang them all the time for FREE. But when you are desperate and go to the clubs they smell it, but asking for hundreds come on. Are you guys that desperate? Maybe so. And with the olympics, world cup, oil discoveries, contracts with China, brasil looks to be the powerhouse of latin america like Argentina NEVER was.
If you are not a war criminal then stay far far far away from brasil. Its a shame because once upon a time brasil was cool and affordable, but with time things do changeWar criminals? Really? I'm sorry, but, that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this board. This year! Some of us steal money the honest way, yet still prefer to give it away (selectively) for a quality piece of ass. Although I agree that the prices are out of hand and that I would never pay 500 Real to bang, there are some guys that make so much money. The honest way. That they don't care. I hope to be there one day. For the sole purpose of being able to buy any bi#ch in the world and make her kiss my sceptor!
Just wondering. What are the top countries that Brazilian GDPs go to work (and by work, I mean For money, for all your smarta$$es out there)!
Rodeo
Ipanema Carioca
01-27-11, 05:39
Last week I was in midtown Manhattan NYC and I took a picture of a street sign "Little Brazil". I also heard a lot of people on 7th St near Time Square speaking portuguese. In my hotel, Sheraton Towers and hotel, there were Brazil flag logos in the lobby with many brazilians too. Once this trip I was in a dli restaurant called "Carnegy's" for one of their famous giant pastrami sandwiches, and next to me was a young couple speaking brazilian portuguese. So I struck up a conversation and found they're on vacation from Sao Paulo. They both have been to the US several times. The young man has even been to Los Angeles. They say that they come to the US often with the weak dollar, and, of course, they want the dollar to stay weak.
But they said a few other things. First, the never been to Rio in their lives. They said that many brazilians would rather come to the US than anywhere and many brazilians do not travel within their country unless they have to, which explains why the brazilian domestic air travel infrastructure is a wreck. Second, they believe the brazilian govt can't handle the World Cup nor the Olympics. Their opinion is there is no labor, equipment or work ethic to make it all happen. And lastly, the weak dollar and strong real is not good for brazil. Even though the brazilians who can get a passport or US visa have traveled abroad with a strong real, the brazilian economy doesn't benefit. Why? Because all export contracts are in dollars and not reals. Moreover, Brazil's inflation is making the country unaffordable for the average brazilian. A footnote: the brazilian chick was a dog. She was tall overweight with no ass. But they were in love holding hands.
Ipanema Carioca
01-27-11, 05:39
Last week I was in midtown Manhattan NYC and I took a picture of a street sign "Little Brazil". I also heard a lot of people on 7th St near Time Square speaking portuguese. In my hotel, Sheraton Towers and hotel, there were Brazil flag logos in the lobby with many brazilians too. Once this trip I was in a dli restaurant called "Carnegy's" for one of their famous giant pastrami sandwiches, and next to me was a young couple speaking brazilian portuguese. So I struck up a conversation and found they're on vacation from Sao Paulo. They both have been to the US several times. The young man has even been to Los Angeles. They say that they come to the US often with the weak dollar, and, of course, they want the dollar to stay weak.
But they said a few other things. First, the never been to Rio in their lives. They said that many brazilians would rather come to the US than anywhere and many brazilians do not travel within their country unless they have to, which explains why the brazilian domestic air travel infrastructure is a wreck. Second, they believe the brazilian govt can't handle the World Cup nor the Olympics. Their opinion is there is no labor, equipment or work ethic to make it all happen. And lastly, the weak dollar and strong real is not good for brazil. Even though the brazilians who can get a passport or US visa have traveled abroad with a strong real, the brazilian economy doesn't benefit. Why? Because all export contracts are in dollars and not reals. Moreover, Brazil's inflation is making the country unaffordable for the average brazilian. A footnote: the brazilian chick was a dog. She was tall overweight with no ass. But they were in love holding hands.
Ipanema Carioca
01-27-11, 17:08
Wrong. The brasilian tourists have always been in NYC, on little brasil street 47th, and they have their street party in September, . The rich brasilians have always been in NYC, they can afford it no matter what the real exchange. I can't tell you how many of these brasilans tourists I have fucked. They love a new york di-ck. And they treat me, strange if I was in their country I got to go to help right? HahaWrong! Who says they never were in NYC or just arrived! I am stating from a recent visit numb nuts!
i just used a great service in rio. rioupscale. com. i was just in copacabana for 3 weeks and stayed in one of their penthouses. i also rented one of their armored cars and they drove me and toured the favelas, what excitment that was. i felt really safe with these guys, they also had armed security when i needed. i guess they have been catering to the richest people in the world and have a the contacts to the most beautiful women i have ever seen. he negotiates the girls as a brazilian so they do not pay the gringo price. i am asian so, but speak english and they helped me far more than i could have imagined. also, they hooked me up with a massage therapist who blew my mind. these guys come highly recommended. i am seriously considering buying one of their places for sale because i had such an amazing time.
i &9829; rioooo
Exec Talent
01-28-11, 00:56
i just used a great service in rio. rioupscale. com. i was just in copacabana for 3 weeks and stayed in one of their penthouses. i also rented one of their armored cars and they drove me and toured the favelas, what excitment that was. i felt really safe with these guys, they also had armed security when i needed. i guess they have been catering to the richest people in the world and have a the contacts to the most beautiful women i have ever seen. he negotiates the girls as a brazilian so they do not pay the gringo price. i am asian so, but speak english and they helped me far more than i could have imagined. also, they hooked me up with a massage therapist who blew my mind. these guys come highly recommended. i am seriously considering buying one of their places for sale because i had such an amazing time.
i &9829; riooooa lame website does not a company make. good luck on your business venture. self-promotion is the highest form of narcissism. however, if you really were a client and among other things rented an armored car in rio, the know suckers when they meet them.
Ipanema Carioca
01-28-11, 03:04
i just used a great service in rio. rioupscale. com. i was just in copacabana for 3 weeks and stayed in one of their penthouses. i also rented one of their armored cars and they drove me and toured the favelas, what excitment that was. i felt really safe with these guys, they also had armed security when i needed. i guess they have been catering to the richest people in the world and have a the contacts to the most beautiful women i have ever seen. he negotiates the girls as a brazilian so they do not pay the gringo price. i am asian so, but speak english and they helped me far more than i could have imagined. also, they hooked me up with a massage therapist who blew my mind. these guys come highly recommended. i am seriously considering buying one of their places for sale because i had such an amazing time.
i &9829; riooooso you rented an armored car just to tour the favelas? hahahaha! there are many favelas that are now run by bpm, when in the hell to you need an armored car. you can catch a cab to tavares bastos favela and here live jazz at the maze. donkey!
Gfe Finder
01-28-11, 05:14
Just wondering. What are the top countries that Brazilian GDPs go to work (and by work, I mean For money, for all your smarta$$es out there)!
RodeoI understand that Spain (and Portugal to a lesser extent) are popular destinations for them.
Just wondering. What are the top countries that Brazilian GDPs go to work (and by work, I mean For money, for all your smarta$$es out there)!
RodeoThere are a lot of Brazilian GDPs in Italy, and I mongered with one at an FKK club in Germany.
So you rented an armored car just to tour the favelas? Hahahaha!I found the bit about negotiating Brasilian price for a favelada particularly amusing. Bet that was a good deal . . . Until you factored in the cost of the armoured car.
War criminals? Really? I'm sorry, but, that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this board. This year! Some of us steal money the honest way, yet still prefer to give it away (selectively) for a quality piece of ass. Although I agree that the prices are out of hand and that I would never pay 500 Real to bang, there are some guys that make so much money. The honest way. That they don't care. I hope to be there one day. For the sole purpose of being able to buy any bi#ch in the world and make her kiss my sceptor!I know politics and mongering don't mix and are not allowed on this board but at the end of the day there are some political factors that affect mongerism. War criminals are the mercernaries who are getting 6 figure pay to hang out in afganistan. Not sure what the number of them going to brazil are.
Just wondering. What are the top countries that Brazilian GDPs go to workPortugal is number 1, simply for language reasons. Spain number 2. But you can find them anywhere in the German FKKs as well. For example,"Leonie" is a star at Bernds Schieferhof."Viagra" was a star at the old Atlantis and then at FKK World. There are always a couple in Oase and Palace, two FKKs near Frankfurt, Germany.
There are also a few working in the US. Lots in Vegas, some in NYC. Heck, I have even seen the occasional Brazilian on the menu at the Montreal agencies.
But in my book the number one collection of Brazilian girls in any place outside Brazil can be found at Lady Marmalade Parties in London, UK (has its own thread in this forum). In this place you pay a flat fee for a 2- or 4-hour party and then can have as much sex with as many girls as you can handle. At least 7 girls are present at each party; most of them seem to be from Brazil. I have only been three three times, but each experience was outstanding.
But in my book the number one collection of Brazilian girls in any place outside Brazil can be found at Lady Marmalade Parties in London, UK (has its own thread in this forum). In this place you pay a flat fee for a 2- or 4-hour party and then can have as much sex with as many girls as you can handle. At least 7 girls are present at each party; most of them seem to be from Brazil. I have only been three three times, but each experience was outstanding.Is this sort of thing legal in the UK?
i just used a great service in rio. rioupscale. com. i was just in copacabana for 3 weeks and stayed in one of their penthouses. i also rented one of their armored cars and they drove me and toured the favelas, what excitment that was. i felt really safe with these guys, they also had armed security when i needed. i guess they have been catering to the richest people in the world and have a the contacts to the most beautiful women i have ever seen. he negotiates the girls as a brazilian so they do not pay the gringo price. i am asian so, but speak english and they helped me far more than i could have imagined. also, they hooked me up with a massage therapist who blew my mind. these guys come highly recommended. i am seriously considering buying one of their places for sale because i had such an amazing time.
i &9829; rioooounlike some of these other cynical posters i'm going to assume that this is a real report and not an advertisement. can you elaborate on some of these prices you paid? that is, how much was the car rental and how much did they negotiate the girls for and where (at your place or somewhere else) and for how long?
Is this sort of thing legal in the UK?To be honest, I am not sure. I would assume that it is not. If you go to LMP's website, you will not find an address. You have to call and book a party, and then they will tell you. So you can draw your own conclusions.
I heard New jack City in Niterio got raided. Can anyone confirm that and is it still operating?
Unlike some of these other cynical posters I'm going to assume that this is a real report and not an advertisement. Can you elaborate on some of these prices you paid? That is, how much was the car rental and how much did they negotiate the girls for and where (at your place or somewhere else) and for how long?This is not an advertisment. Just wanted to share a good service. I been traveling to Brazil for many years. Using many services. Usually do not p4p. I have money. Those of you who said it was fake armored car, has obvisously not been in one before. Is no problem for me to pay for a good service. Maybe my price bracket is different from yours and you have never lived this life. This is why I usually don't post here. Too many jealousy and negativity.
Brazil Specialist
01-29-11, 02:05
So you rented an armored car just to tour the favelas? Hahahaha! There are many favelas that are now run by BPM, when in the hell to you need an armored car. You can catch a cab to Tavares Bastos favela and here live jazz at the Maze. Donkey!Don't get yourself scared off by smartass tourist's remarks. No Carioca would ever laugh at you for using an armored car. They would, if they could afford it. Just most people take their risks.
You can get into a road block by armed gangsters in fake police uniform at any time of the day. For example on the way from the airoport into Rio you usually would get into road blocks only late at night. But in Tijuca, or even Botafogo, you can run into them during the day time.
Make sure it is armored to withstand assault rifles, and the armoring is within its validity. After a few years it expires.
I think I once met the guys from this site, the only ones that can afford such feats are members of police. Aquemini, feel free to get in touch with me, would love to chat with you.
Just wondering. What are the top countries that Brazilian GDPs go to work (and by work, I mean For money, for all your smarta$$es out there)!
RodeoSome guys answered already. Warm weather and Latin language are a plus. Portugal, Spain, Italy. In the US California and Florida. New Jersey for some funny reason. (but Visa requirements are a damper)
But everywhere else: Switzerland, Germany, . The funny think is, they might be cheaper in a German FKK then in Centaurus or even in L'Uomo. Guess they get more customers in a day in Europe.
War criminals? Really? I'm sorry, but, that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this board. This year! Some of us steal money the honest way, yet still prefer to give it away (selectively) for a quality piece of ass. Although I agree that the prices are out of hand and that I would never pay 500 Real to bang, there are some guys that make so much money. The honest way. That they don't care. I hope to be there one day. For the sole purpose of being able to buy any bi#ch in the world and make her kiss my sceptor!Brazil is the sure place for criminals to escape to. Train robber Mr Biggs is the prime example. Here is another one.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101231/ts_afp/brazilitalytrialextraditiondiplomacy_20101231133912
Of course, if you are a boxer from Cuba, federal police will convince you to surrender and go back. Lula kisses. Ss of leftist regimes.
Any criminal who knocks up a Brazilian and gets a Brazilian kid can be sure to never et extradited.
Brasil is for playas who are War criTminals with stolen money to burn. Not for the hard working guys who earn an honest buck. 1 dolla is pretty much 1 real. And the hookas want upwards of 500 Real? Are you kidding? This is the third world and they want outrageous sums of cash for what? Brasilian bitchs love sex and give it up for FREE to any cool guy, I know because I bang them all the time for FREE. But when you are desperate and go to the clubs they smell it, but asking for hundreds come on. Are you guys that desperate? Maybe so. And with the olympics, world cup, oil discoveries, contracts with China, brasil looks to be the powerhouse of latin america like Argentina NEVER was.
If you are not a war criminal then stay far far far away from brasil. Its a shame because once upon a time brasil was cool and affordable, but with time things do changeCertainly. A few decades ago, minimum wage was 30 dollars, a termas was 20 dollars. These times are over.
These guys who say they don't pay 500 for a girl go to a termas and dole out 350 for the girl, for 40 minutes plus an hour at the bar, plus 50 for drinks. You will not pull a girl out of Barbarella for less then 500 all together.
There are Brazilians who pay 500 or more, but not for the average wh. Ore you guys would find. And, there are much cheaper ways to get girls, but most gringo's would not want to go to the trouble.
Check.
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/home.html
Half hour R$ 60, 1 hour R$ 80.
http://www.mixmassagem.com/principal.htm
Same
Mr Enternational
01-29-11, 02:54
Usually do not p4p. I have money. Those of you who said it was fake armored car, has obvisously not been in one before. Is no problem for me to pay for a good service. Maybe my price bracket is different from yours and you have never lived this life. This is why I usually don't post here. Too many jealousy and negativity.In other words he is telling us that if we got to ask, then we can't afford it!
In other words he is telling us that if we got to ask, then we can't afford it!In my case for the car, yes, I am sure I cannot. However, I am wondering what the "Brazilian" price was for the girls.
Exec Talent
01-29-11, 05:22
One of the best laughs I had in Rio was watching Sammy Sosa's grandiose Help entrance. He was being taken around by a friend of one of the doormen. Sammy was covering his face and going on and on about no photos and the doorman said,"Who in the hell are you? I want a photo with my friend not you." Later Sammy got visibly pissed because no one recognized him.
It is not that most of us cannot afford certain things, we just know they are not necessary. In other words, a fool and his money were lucky to have gotten together in the first place. I regularly get e-mails from Rio agencies that specialize in models and actresses. I also have ridden with friends in Rio who own armored cars. Unlike a tourist, they are in positions or travel into areas where their lives could be in real danger.
I stand by my original assessment that the post is either self-promotion or bullshit.
If someone sincerely is interested in renting an armored car then they may want to consider renting from Hakan who has been renting apartments in Rio for many years. He also can provide bodyguards.
http://www.rioluxurycars.com/
http://www.riobodyguards.com/
One of the best laughs I had in Rio was watching Sammy Sosa's grandiose Help entrance. He was being taken around by a friend of one of the doormen. Sammy was covering his face and going on and on about no photos and the doorman said,"Who in the hell are you? I want a photo with my friend not you." Later Sammy got visibly pissed because no one recognized him.
It is not that most of us cannot afford certain things, we just know they are not necessary. In other words, a fool and his money were lucky to have gotten together in the first place. I regularly get e-mails from Rio agencies that specialize in models and actresses. I also have ridden with friends in Rio who own armored cars. Unlike a tourist, they are in positions or travel into areas where their lives could be in real danger.
I stand by my original assessment that the post is either self-promotion or bullshit.
If someone sincerely is interested in renting an armored car then they may want to consider renting from Hakan who has been renting apartments in Rio for many years. He also can provide bodyguards.
http://www.rioluxurycars.com/
http://www.riobodyguards.com/Sounds like the only bullshit is coming from your mouth Exec. Or is your name Hakan? Necessary or not, it was my money and I spend it how I like. If I want security, I do not mind paying. Like I said, these guys gave good service and I just wanted to share that.
I know politics and mongering don't mix and are not allowed on this board but at the end of the day there are some political factors that affect mongerism. War criminals are the mercernaries who are getting 6 figure pay to hang out in afganistan. Not sure what the number of them going to brazil are.Sorry, I guess I was going by the literal meaning which defines such characters as Charles Taylor, Slobodan Milosevic, and Hermann Goering. I, for one, am not a war criminal, and reject the broad characterization of being put in the same category as the above scum bags-even IF I ever spent 500 reals on a girl.
Rodeo
Ipanema Carioca
01-29-11, 19:50
I found the bit about negotiating Brasilian price for a favelada particularly amusing. Bet that was a good deal . . . Until you factored in the cost of the armoured car.Yeah, even if the "Brazilian price" for the gdp was "0" that armoured car price could've gotten him 50 sessions our more at a level 1 termas. LOL!
Sounds like the only bullshit is coming from your mouth Exec. Or is your name Hakan? Necessary or not, it was my money and I spend it how I like. If I want security, I do not mind paying. Like I said, these guys gave good service and I just wanted to share that.I can tell for sure that Exec Talent isn't Hakan Olsson.
If somebody would need bodyguards or armoured cars (or apartments) I would also recommend Hakan as he's a very reliable guy (and NO I'm also not Hakan).
I could imagine that armoured cars can be very useful in a lot of situations in Brazil, but not when going up in a favela to do a tour. If the favela is occupied by UPP it will have a lot of police and be quite safe. If the favela isn't pacified an armoured car and armed security will get you a lot of unwanted attention.
I can tell for sure that Exec Talent isn't Hakan Olsson.I'll second that.
That would be something though, to wait 8 years and add 1100 posts to finally sneak in 1 plug for an armored car service!
Mr Enternational
01-29-11, 23:56
I can tell for sure that Exec Talent isn't Hakan Olsson. (and NO I'm also not Hakan).Will the real Keyser Söze please step forward.
I am not sure if I agree with you totally on the strong real / weak dollar not benefitting Brasil considering that Brasils' largest exports are commodities and probably 99% of commodities are denominated in dollars. It is great if you are an exporter and converting the profits back to reais; what is occuring with the weak dollar is that the US is exporting inflation abroad.
Last week I was in midtown Manhattan NYC and I took a picture of a street sign "Little Brazil". I also heard a lot of people on 7th St near Time Square speaking portuguese. In my hotel, Sheraton Towers and hotel, there were Brazil flag logos in the lobby with many brazilians too. Once this trip I was in a dli restaurant called "Carnegy's" for one of their famous giant pastrami sandwiches, and next to me was a young couple speaking brazilian portuguese. So I struck up a conversation and found they're on vacation from Sao Paulo. They both have been to the US several times. The young man has even been to Los Angeles. They say that they come to the US often with the weak dollar, and, of course, they want the dollar to stay weak.
But they said a few other things. First, the never been to Rio in their lives. They said that many brazilians would rather come to the US than anywhere and many brazilians do not travel within their country unless they have to, which explains why the brazilian domestic air travel infrastructure is a wreck. Second, they believe the brazilian govt can't handle the World Cup nor the Olympics. Their opinion is there is no labor, equipment or work ethic to make it all happen. And lastly, the weak dollar and strong real is not good for brazil. Even though the brazilians who can get a passport or US visa have traveled abroad with a strong real, the brazilian economy doesn't benefit. Why? Because all export contracts are in dollars and not reals. Moreover, Brazil's inflation is making the country unaffordable for the average brazilian. A footnote: the brazilian chick was a dog. She was tall overweight with no ass. But they were in love holding hands.
Exec Talent
01-30-11, 17:26
I was on the walkway in front of L'uomo the other day and came across an attractive mulata just hanging out. I asked her the obvious question about whether she worked inside and she said no that she worked in Don Juan on Duvier (a block or so from Balcony). We exchange some pleasantries and numbers and I asked her to tell me more about Don Juan. She said there were 4 cabines and that the price was R$50 for a cabine and R$100 for her. I was intrigued and decided to visit. What a dump. The cabine is upstairs and consists of a mattress in an open area surrounded by what looks like an attic project gone awry.
While at Don Juan I saw an attractive girl who later was at Balcony. Speaking of Balcony there were a couple of 10s working this Saturday otherwise it again looked like the bar scene from Star Wars. All of the tables were filled but mostly with guys sitting alone nursing an empty glass or bottle. The good news is the Trannies seemed to have moved elsewhere.
My suggestion to those coming to Rio and wanting to stay in Copa is to bring some decent clothes and make the rounds outside the various clubs in the Lido area. Previously, when Rio was not the safest desitination, I would dress seriously down. Now, that it is safer I dress a little better which seems to agree with the working girls who take the time to put on nicer clothes. Rather than trying to gouge me, they are offering extended visits for R$100. R150.
Beach Star
01-30-11, 18:54
I am not sure if I agree with you totally on the strong real / weak dollar not benefitting Brasil considering that Brasils' largest exports are commodities and probably 99% of commodities are denominated in dollars. It is great if you are an exporter and converting the profits back to reais; what is occuring with the weak dollar is that the US is exporting inflation abroad.It is the other way round, it is great when the dollar is strong, Brazil exports commodities which have costs in reais, so a weak dollar gives less return. U. S, under these circumstances is not omporting inflation, the contrary, raw commodities are cheaper.
Beach Star
01-30-11, 18:59
I was on the walkway in front of L'uomo the other day and came across an attractive mulata just hanging out. I asked her the obvious question about whether she worked inside and she said no that she worked in Don Juan on Duvier (a block or so from Balcony). We exchange some pleasantries and numbers and I asked her to tell me more about Don Juan. She said there were 4 cabines and that the price was R$50 for a cabine and R$100 for her. I was intrigued and decided to visit. What a dump. The cabine is upstairs and consists of a mattress in an open area surrounded by what looks like an attic project gone awry.
While at Don Juan I saw an attractive girl who later was at Balcony. Speaking of Balcony there were a couple of 10s working this Saturday otherwise it again looked like the bar scene from Star Wars. All of the tables were filled but mostly with guys sitting alone nursing an empty glass or bottle. The good news is the Trannies seemed to have moved elsewhere.
My suggestion to those coming to Rio and wanting to stay in Copa is to bring some decent clothes and make the rounds outside the various clubs in the Lido area. Previously, when Rio was not the safest desitination, I would dress seriously down. Now, that it is safer I dress a little better which seems to agree with the working girls who take the time to put on nicer clothes. Rather than trying to gouge me, they are offering extended visits for R$100. R150. That place has been there for years and years. Problem with the area around Lido is that the clubs are basically clip joints, always have been. If you don`t mind paying, its not so bad. Some offer some entertainment, strip shows etc. For sure you will never be ripped off like you can be in similar places in Europe (especially London). Is the club with no name still there? Close to Mabs if I remember correctly.
Sunset Strip
01-30-11, 19:04
Don Juan used to be a hot spot in the 80s! I went there around 88 or 89. A cab driver took me.
When I walked in there were girls dancing on stage to that song "I GOT the Power!"
It was very dark inside and I could not see the other patrons initially, so I just walked towards the stage area.
Suddenly, a hand brushed me and a woman said "Desculpe" (sorry) , and I heard laughter from her and a man. I stopped and looked hard and realized they were having doggie style sex over the table in full view of others!
After my eyes adjusted I realized others were having sex, too.
After a while, a couple got up on the stage and did it in front of all.
I eventually took a girl out and we went to the Hotel Diplomata, right behind Mabs.
These were the good old days in Rio. Most of these spots remain, but as ET stated, they have mostly gone downhill.
I have not been in Don Juan in years and would not waste time or money there now.
If you want an idea of how things used to be watch that Brazilian movie,"Amor Bandido," about a serial taxicab robber in the Prado Lido (red-light) area.
SS
Anyone ever heard of a Rio Agency called: bons tempos?
If so, any web pages or threads on it? Thanks,
BB
Ipanema Carioca
02-01-11, 04:27
It is the other way round, it is great when the dollar is strong, Brazil exports commodities which have costs in reais, so a weak dollar gives less return. U. S, under these circumstances is not omporting inflation, the contrary, raw commodities are cheaper.The strong real / weak dollar hurts Brazil, because Brazil and most emerging markets make contracts in dollars and not their currency. The real is no good outside of Brazil; the Dominican peso is no good outside of DR; any currency that is weaker than the dollar, euro; canadian dollar, and etc. Is no good outside of their country.
Member #3439
02-01-11, 07:26
My suggestion to those coming to Rio and wanting to stay in Copa is to bring some decent clothes.
Now, that it is safer I dress a little better which seems to agree with the working girls who take the time to put on nicer clothes. Rather than trying to gouge me, they are offering extended visits for R$100. R150.
For our information, can you please elaborate on what is meant by "dress a little better"? I see the gamut from shorts to jeans to hipster clubwear to biz casual to suits, depending where I am mongering. For Centro its jeans+t-shirt or biz casual, dockers etc. In Copa I see everything from tank-tops to zoot suits. In VM, mostly jeans and t-shirts but I've seen real suits. Of all places.
Since ET mentions safety..For the people out there who've never been and are wondering. My 2 centavos.: In Copa daytime, like ET insinuated, you can wear whatever nice clothes you want. Same goes for Centro, daytime. Same at night in Copa, if you're willing to take cabs door-to-door. In Centro/Zona Norte I would not advise that at all after dark. I monger a lot at night in Centro and VM, covering a lot of territory on foot and onibus. My personal strategy there is to dress down and stay in the alleyways.
Counting the days till I'm in Rio...11. I just hope I can do better than my last trip reported in late June/July. I felt like I hit my Rio peak there in those ~10 reports. The criticism of my last Rio field reports was harsh, citing safety and common decency violations, but I plan to post anyway. My itinerary has shifted a little, I scored 21 on the last trip and most the those were CBJ and so forth. Now i'll be trolling Bar 22, Rio Branco 22xx's, 502. When I find GFE BBFS or all-out-safda, like last time at 22 and Florida, I'm locking that down for TLN instread of playing the butterfly. I'm maturing in my career to the point where it might not be all about score, maybe, hopefully.
Exec Talent
02-01-11, 08:30
For our information, can you please elaborate on what is meant by "dress a little better"? I see the gamut from shorts to jeans to hipster clubwear to biz casual to suits, depending where I am mongering. For Centro its jeans+t-shirt or biz casual, dockers etc. In Copa I see everything from tank-tops to zoot suits. In VM, mostly jeans and t-shirts but I've seen real suits. Of all places.
Since ET mentions safety. For the people out there who've never been and are wondering. My 2 centavos. : In Copa daytime, like ET insinuated, you can wear whatever nice clothes you want. Same goes for Centro, daytime. Same at night in Copa, if you're willing to take cabs door-to-door. In Centro / Zona Norte I would not advise that at all after dark. I monger a lot at night in Centro and VM, covering a lot of territory on foot and onibus. My personal strategy there is to dress down and stay in the alleyways.
Counting the days till I'm in Rio. 11. I just hope I can do better than my last trip reported in late June / July. I felt like I hit my Rio peak there in those 10 reports. The criticism of my last Rio field reports was harsh, with members charging me with violations of safety and common decency. Sorry, but I hope to repeat. Try to buy a real Ralph Lauren polo shirt in Rio. One of the few places that sell them is in Leblon shopping where they sell for over R$300. I would never wear one before in Copa day or night. Because of the improved economy and a clear focus on security (military police, civil police and the tourist police in their new neon green t-shirts) Rio really is a safer place these days. However, if inflation continues at its current rate (do not believe what the government is reporting) that could all change.
Nightclub dress in Rio often consists of dress jeans, nicer t-shirts and tennis shoes. Compared to the women, the men always look seriously under dressed. Similar to Ashton in his recent São Paulo appearance with Demi.
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/whoknew/ashton-and-demi-booed-in-brazil/28?nc
As for your reports, I may not agree with what you do or where you do it, but I found your reports informative and refreshingly candid. At least there was no mention of hiring escorts to take to swing clubs so you could bang ugly middle-aged women.
Member #3439
02-01-11, 08:58
Try to buy a real Ralph Lauren polo shirt in Rio. One of the few places that sell them is in Leblon shopping where they sell for over R$300. I would never wear one before in Copa day or night. Because of the improved economy and a clear focus on security (military police, civil police and the tourist police in their new neon green t-shirts) Rio really is a safer place these days. However, if inflation continues at its current rate (do not believe what the government is reporting) that could all change.
As for your reports, I may not agree with what you do or where you do it, but I found your reports informative and refreshingly candid. At least there was no mention of hiring escorts to take to swing clubs so you could bang ugly middle-aged women. Sounds like you are talking about business casual with khaki pants or something. Correct? With that, you probably are standing out from the shorts-wearing geeks, hipster college boys with club clothes, and wanna-be pimps.. so that would explain it. You look like..somebody that has a real job and real cash? ;)
Well. Thanks, I think. You're right; there are guys who come to Rio to bang ugly middle aged swingers at A2A and younger civilians of the same caliber from Nuth, etc. I don't get it. When in Rio, I take putas because, as a monger, they are my counterpart. We share a common deviation, perhaps weakness, and I like the nastiness of them and go all out for them, despite the risks, to the extent they go all-out for me. For those guys who are Canada or US based, save your cash. Check Jackson's USA Guide, Illinois, Melrose Park. 15th Ave ABS. Some of these are 20 something and good looking, typically repressed American perverts , Fly to ORD, drive 30 minutes, shack in a hotel of your choosing from 40 USD+. Spend a week there 10 AM-close or whenever you feel like it. You'll see and participate in some depraved stuff for the price of a single session in VM. Brasilian putas have nothing on Chicago housewives. Nasty, closeted, sick minded, beyond belief nasty. I've mongerered far-flung corners of the Earth; brothels, bars, fetish clubs worldwide and never seen anything that surpasses it. I'm verbose here, but I don't have words for that place. Most mongers would be scared shitless by the ferocity of these women, which is why I have a hard time hearing the sob stories about Americanas vs Brasileiras. I don't see the same perversion in Brasileiras, perhaps their quasi-Catholic sensibilities? I recommend, if happenstance takes you to Brasil, monger it like there's no tommorow. Otherwise, since we are being robbed on the price of P4P in Brasil, considering the common Brasileiro's income, seek out the sexually repressed in Western or Asian countries for lower or no cost. Chicago is one example, Tokyo is equally rich in opportunity if not moreso. The gaijin bars and internatonal parties, they are full of Japanese girls who want to experience foreigners. The list goes on...
Brazil Specialist
02-01-11, 10:34
Sorry if I interrupt important conversations about armored car and distract you from that interesting subject.
Here a few with contact details.
If you catch me in the right mood, I might join you on the search. If not, it is not too hard to find them.
Of course, there is always.
http://www.karlamodels.net
http://jupanteras.com/meninas/
http://www.mixmassagem.com/principal.htm
Fantastic, worth a trip to Saens Pena.
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/home.html
Already did these.
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/ensaios/natashatigresas/index.html
Yes, she looks like that. Yes she costs 50 for half hour. Yes, I have her private phone number.
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/ensaios/fabianamix/index.html
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/ensaios/sandrinha/index.html
http://www.muraldoprazer.com/paulinha/
http://www.muraldoprazer.com/isabela/
Looks good, but 25 years.
http://www.muraldoprazer.com/cris/
http://www.muraldoprazer.com/vanessa/
http://www.para
*hocolate. Com / kaylanevelozo/
Only outcall.
Insert I s o see where the * stars are*
http://www.para
*hocolate. Com / natashanegreiros/
Nice, I wonder if they all are really 18?
Natasha Negreiros. Tels. : (21) 7475-4386/8357-7862/8456-1503/7266-4154.
http://www.annemassagens.com.br/equipe.html
Lots of girls in Tijuca, not sure if there are any special ones.
http://www.dannymodels.com/principal.htm
Worth checking. Seems several agencies several big titted ones, but did not see a GREAT one.
http://www.dannymodels.com/lais/
Interesting.
Agency likes big tits, but all a little over the hill?
http://www.orientevip.com.br/biacarvalho/
!
http://www.belprazer.com/leticia/leticia.htm
!
http://www.belprazer.com/bruna/bruna.htm
Has been around for a long time!
http://www.belprazer.com/betina/betina.htm
!
http://www.belprazer.com/ana/ana.htm
Ok.
http://www.belprazer.com/alessandra/alessandra.htm
!
http://www.belprazer.com/bianca/bianca.htm
! Has been around for a while?
http://www.belprazer.com/mirella/mirella.htm
! Nice small tits.
http://www.esteticmen.com/home.html
A few good ones, where are they?
http://www.esteticmen.com/luana.htm
!
http://www.esteticmen.com/alicia.htm
!
http://www.esteticmen.com/ingrid.htm
! Are the tits real?
http://www.esteticmen.com/erika.htm
!
http://www.alinemassagens.com.br/camila/
Ok.
http://www.alinemassagens.com.br/valesca/
! Good TD.
http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=16819
07) Se vc a achou bonita de corpo / rosto;
Corpo 9 Tudo no corpo dela é bonito. Os peitos impressionam.
Rosto 6.
Valor: R$ 70/30 minutos.
Nao está mais lá?
Acho que vale sim, vc dar uma segunda chance e conferir o atendimento the Valesca. Liga e conversa sobre o ocorrido, a gerente vai te dar uma moral com certeza. Ate pq a tal menina, nem esta mais na casa, passou como um flecha por la, e isso ja nao é bom sinal. Sinal de que a menina nao é la grandes coisas.
Se vc preferir, me passe uma MP, q eu te dou o cel the Valesca, autorizado por ela, ok?
http://www.elliterio.com/veranuncio.php?a=442
! Big tits but "old" 23.
Good td.
http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=17239
As meninas the Rio Lux estão de mudança, na segunda-feira 17 de Janeiro, começam a labutar na nova sala de andº 825, no mesmo prédio, e apenas o telefone fixo vai mudar o andúmero "2220-0988"
http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/amanda/amanda.html
http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/camila/camila.html
http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/marina/marina.html
!
http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/taina/taina.html
!
http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/marcela/marcela.html
Brazil Specialist
02-01-11, 10:45
I am a bit worried now for publishing these things.
PLEASE: if rowdy drunk boisterous groups of guys go there, you can screw it up for all of us.
Remember, some Brazilians also understand your indecent conversations in English
Brazil Specialist
02-01-11, 10:55
. For those guys who are Canada or US based, save your cash. Check Jackson's USA Guide, Illinois, Melrose Park. 15th Ave ABS. Some of these are 20 something and good looking, typically repressed American perverts , Fly to ORD, drive 30 minutes, shack in a hotel of your choosing from 40 USD+. Spend a week there 10 AM-close or whenever you feel like it. You'll see and participate in some depraved stuff for the price of a single session in VM. Brasilian putas have nothing on Chicago housewives. Nasty, closeted, sick minded, beyond belief nasty. I've mongerered far-flung corners of the Earth; brothels, bars, fetish clubs worldwide and never seen anything that surpasses it. I'm verbose here, but I don't have words for that place. Most mongers would be scared shitless by the ferocity of these women, which is why I have a hard time hearing the sob stories about Americanas vs Brasileiras. I don't see the same perversion in Brasileiras, perhaps their quasi-Catholic sensibilities? I recommend, if happenstance takes you to Brasil, monger it like there's no tommorow. Otherwise, since we are being robbed on the price of P4P in Brasil, considering the common Brasileiro's income, seek out the sexually repressed in Western or Asian countries for lower or no cost. Chicago is one example, Tokyo is equally rich in opportunity if not moreso. The gaijin bars and internatonal parties, they are full of Japanese girls who want to experience foreigners. The list goes on...What is ORD? The guide is a book? A motel? Did not quite get it.
Should I fly from Rio to Chicago for Sex tourism? So it is better then Tijuana, at least?
Brazil Specialist
02-01-11, 11:43
This is not an advertisment. Just wanted to share a good service. I been traveling to Brazil for many years. Using many services. Usually do not p4p. I have money. Those of you who said it was fake armored car, has obvisously not been in one before. Is no problem for me to pay for a good service. Maybe my price bracket is different from yours and you have never lived this life. This is why I usually don't post here. Too many jealousy and negativity.I understand your point. I tried to contact you, but.
You don't have private message privileges.
Because.
It seems you are not paying membership here.
Don't be cheap, pay your membership fees here. No, Jackson does not pay me for this advertising. But I am glad that many of us more prolific contributors can be here for free. Even if some of these only contribute quantity and not quality.
I have met a few high rollers here, over the years. One made US# 1M profit per month, the other had a 100 foot yacht permanently waiting for him in the Gloria harbor, another one spent 3 months in Copacabana Palace suite, etc.
Would not mind helping you to find some $$$ playboy bunnies or top models. I know a lot of girl sources I hardly ever use because I don't want to spend that money. Or because I prefer to get the bunny before she becomes famous in Playboy.
What is ORD? The guide is a book? A motel? Did not quite get it.
Should I fly from Rio to Chicago for Sex tourism? So it is better then Tijuana, at least? ORD is the airport code for Chicago O'Hare; that's all.
Day 4: All of my Rio visits are way too short, and this was already my last day. Travelerb69 and I agreed to meet at L'uomo around 7. I got there a little after 6 and first checked at the reception if Milena had checked in. The answer was no, which is what I was hoping for. A helpful fellow customer offered to call her in for me, but I declined. He meant really well, but I really wanted to try something different.
On day 3 I had seen Natalie, who was all over a guy who I will call Spencer (not his name, but he knows why I say this). I had told Spencer about the forum, and he promised to become a member. (Spencer, if you read this, please PM me. Oh, and sorry man, I boned your girl).
Well, back to Natalie. She has fairly light skin color and a pretty face. 20 years old and very friendly. Her English is excellent, and she tells me she picked it up just by working at L'uomo for the last two years. She is quite smart and a great negotiator (more on that later). Oh, and she really likes soft kisses.
So we spent a very pleasant long time in the corner of the bar next to the emergency exit doors, engaged in some heavy foreplay. Travelerb69 had arrived and had come to the conclusion that he needed to take the Indian-looking girl with braces tonight. These two were on the barstool next to us. Your girl grinding bunda against your dick, and your wingman next to you; the music playing and the caipirinha flowing: that's how I like L'uomo best, and that's when it is unbeatable in my book.
In the room Natalie was as great as I had hoped for. But despite 40 minutes of our best efforts, I did not have a 'relax'. Natalie came, though. (I was not sure if she was faking, but later she swore that it was the real deal.)
Back to the boite, more drinking and kissing on the couches. My wingman came back from his session and told me that he would have to end the evening, because he had to go to work the next day. This meant that I had the rest of the evening for myself. It also meant that I would try to pull Natalie after hours to my hotel for TLN. I asked her, and she said yes right away.
Natalie and I left the boite at 11:30 when we realized that we were the only two people still in the room. I waited for her at the bottom of the escalator, and we walked across the street to my hotel. We simply walked into the elevator without registering her at the front desk. At that point my goal is always to negotiate for a freebee. But it turned out that Natalie was just a better negotiator. We both took a shower and then started kissing on the bed. Then she said 'there is just one question. '. So of cause I ladled all my 'amiga, amor, . ' BS on her, but she said 'I like you very much, but I am a working girl, and you go to 4*4'. I don't know how she knew that, but in her mind this fact sealed that I was a safado and could not be trusted with a long-term investment of a freebee. Like I said, smart girl. We negotiated R155, which was all the Brazilian cash I had on me. Pretty good rate, but a world away from 'free. ' I had to get up at 7 am to catch a flight, but did not sleep much during the night anyway. Sex was really great and even better than in L'uomo, which means that she could not have been too upset over the bargain basement rate. This time it was no problem to finish, either.
Yes, Rio has become horrendously expensive – I spent a good $1, 000 on 4 days of sex. If one counts just the number of encounters I had, I could have done better price-wise even in the German FKK scene. But for the sheer emotional intensity Rio cannot be beat! It's still the best way on the planet to spend a short fuckation. I can't wait to be back.
day 3: travelerb69 picked me up at my hotel at 5 pm, and we headed straight for one of the few good privates that are open on a saturday, massagem tijuca (http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/). their lineup was also smaller than last time, but i found taisa, who was nice looking. in the room, however, she was not what i would call a winner. no need to go into detail, ymmv. i busted one, but it was not due to her gfe. then we dozed off for about 30 minutes to finish the hour, because i really didn't feel like attempting another shot on goal with her. btw, with massagem tijuca's rates of r50/60/90 for 30/40/60 minutes they are pretty competitive with vm prices, but they are a much better deal in terms of the overall package and in particular cleanliness.
then on to l'uomo, where we managed to enter before 7 to get the 50% entrance discount (form r70 down to r35). my wingman had headed off to eat before coming to l'uomo; i was holding out for feijoida night at l'uomo. (which was very good again and probably worth the r35 entrance all by itself.) so i entered the boite alone and was, of course checked out by a good 20 pairs of hungry eyes. but as my eyes adjusted to the low light in the boite, i saw one very familiar bunda dancing up a storm not even 6 feet from me. ingrid! i was genuinely happy to see my long-time friend. we chatted a while and caught up with each other's adventures. it was perhaps my warmest half hour in the entire trip. i love this girl.
i was sad to see that peter, the barkeep has left l'uomo for good. but the new team seems more than ok, too. not much else new at l'uomo. the 40 min session is still r240, which has not changed since my last visit. the only thing that changed was the uniform the girls were asked to wear for this weekend. skimpy string bikinis with plastic grape leaves stitched on in the most amateur way. all weekend long they were pulling and tugging, and the plastic grape leaves scratched my dick during the usual bunda-grinding ceremonies. horrible, and i let the boss know.
i saw a few girls, who i had previously explored from the inside, shall we say. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), one of them, came over and welcomed me warmly, as did a few others. but i was not in the mood for any of them. (none of them a bad choice, mind you!) milena was also one of them. i knew i had had a session with her, but for the life of me could not remember if it was really great or just so-so. i find milena extremely attractive, in particular i just adore her face.
when travelerb69 finally joined us in the boite, i introduced him to ingrid, and they hit is off right away. later he reported a fantastic session, which to me was absolutely no surprise. he and i have very similar tastes in many respects, and i knew that the legendary ingrid would give him a great session.
in the meantime i had decided to give milena another try, and boy did i ever luck out. we had fantastic foreplay in the boite and then again in the room. sex was great, and i got close several times, but due to overuse of the equipment in the past three days was not quite there. in the meantime milena, on top of me, got more and more worked up and out of breath. she suddenly asked 'ok, i orgasmo? ' and i graciously agreed. her coming like a freight train also took me along, and so this turned into one of my all-time great sessions.
on the way from the room back to the boite, we walked past the super suite, and milena pointed at the door and said 'remember? ' ahhh, now i did, it was an epic disaster. now that i am writing this, i can look up the old post (from 2009) : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-rio-de-janeiro-reports&p=940761&viewfull=1#post940761
but here is also the post of my first encounter with milena: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940765, which proves that i did have a tremendous session with milena before. after the showers we spent another hour together on the couch, and then it was closing time.
travelerb69 and i decided that we had to visit vm again. there, we even saw our double-duty girl amanda again, but she looked a lot worse for the wear. i saw three or four borderline doable girls there, who i certainly might have taken a chance on in a cleaner environment. but here, where you have to basically have to have instant sex standing up, no way. not after the day i had had thus far. we had some drinks and grilled cheese skewers and called it a night, again around 2 or so. if you are into people-watching, this is as good as it gets. if you are sensitive, in particular to smells, then stay away! vm smells kinda gamy even after a cleansing rain, but, with the temp hovering around 35 c, it was atrocious.
Day 2: Travelerb69, my buddy from the previous Rio trip and fellow member of the three tenors (see http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1053226#post1053226) picked me up at 4 pm.
First stop: a couple of privates on Rio Branco. You can get to them via the metro, where they are practically across the exit of the * metro station. I am attaching a Google street view of the 181 building. It's kinda tricky to find these privates; so here is a how-to: for 181 go through the aluminum portal and follow the spiraling ramp all the way down (2 turns) , then look for the elevators. Take the elevator up to the 20th floor, then take the stairs up to the 21st floor. Find the door with the number 2114 on it and ring the bell. There is no sign whatsoever, and likely nobody will open the door right away. Just be patient and trust me.
When the door opened we saw that is was very busy, with 5 guys waiting ahead of us. Bad sign! But eventually my buddy and I got to check out a lineup of 5 girls. This was the smallest lineup my buddy had ever seen there, but for me it was good enough, because I found Pamela. She is 28, used to work at Solarium, looks great, and has a very pleasant personality. Prices: 30 min for R60, 40 min for R70, and 60 min for R100. We each went with the 1-hour package, and off we went. All of the rooms seem to have their own showers, and I made use of it before and after the deed. Pamela even did the therma-like thing, where she vanished from the room while I showered and then returned with a different outfit on. She looked positively stunning in her white little negligee, and we had a terrific round of sex. It took me 40 minutes to complete, and then I was too worn to attempt a second shot on goal right away. So we cuddled and tried to talk. But after all these years my Portuguese still stinks, which was a problem in this case, because she wanted to get together with me on the weekend, but I did not manage to get the logistics straight. Oh well.
The 181 building is next door to a bank, and then 185. Again you first have to descend, this time a straight staircase or an escalator (take you pick). Then take the elevator up to the 8th floor and press the buzzer at 801. Same deal – same owner, actually. Also very busy. Our lineup consisted of 4 choices. Nobody knocked my socks off; so I sat this one out. Travelerb69 plowed ahead, though. I had to leave the apartment and killed the hour on the bottom floor in a little coffee shop.
Then on to 4*4 again (, which is actually walking distance from the privates). I couldn't see Nicky from the day before, but I would not have minded a repeat. On the other hand Rafaela homed in on me right away again, trying to collect on the session that got away yesterday. Rafaela was wearing a bikini that was truly fio dental. Two postage stamp size pieces of cloth held together by clear thin plastic strings for the top and one small piece of matching fabric with more string for the bottom. Rafaela does have a fantastic body, and this garment really highlighted it. But I remembered from our session a few months ago that she was too aggressive in the sack, and I did not want to repeat. I was trying to be nice and not just tell her to get lost, but of course she took this as encouragement. Problem! Fortunately, my wingman took one for the team, threw himself into hostile fire aimed at me, and decided that he would give her a spin. Travelerb69, you are a real friend! Good, so I had my hands free and picked Anita, a mulatta, who I had ogled lustily a few times. Also a very nice girl, with an angelic face and a perfect smile. Her body is terrific, but the headlights are bolt-ons.
The backroom upstairs boite had been renovated since I was last at 4*4. It is now very pleasant and not so loud, even with decent lighting; so you can have a good and perhaps even quiet conversation there. On the back wall of that boite is now a door, which leads to several nice (air-conditioned!) rooms. I used the shower in the room, and then we worked up a storm, doing exactly the kind of wild sex that I love Rio for. I managed to squeeze one out right under the hour mark, and then I was ready to just expire. I took another shower, and so did she, then we cuddled for a few minutes, even though the hour was over at least 10 minutes before. I love that kind of treatment. Travelerb69 was done with his girl and was waiting for me in the boite outside our room.
We paid up, drove back to the Copa, and had sandwiches and beer at Cervantes, one of my favorite cheap Rio eateries, a little bit after midnight. I really recommend their filet mignon with cheese and pineapple sandwich. Appropriately strengthened, we decide to inspect Balcony Bar. Man, I must say it was hopping. So there are some winners in the process of Help closing. Maybe a hundred GDPs worked the male tourist crowd. There were also clearly amateur females in attendance, even one mother-daughter combo. Several terma-quality girls, too. But we did not pull anything and left around 2 am.
OK, here we are again in my favorite destination, Rio.
Day 1: got off the plane at Rio International and hopped on the waiting RealBus towards Ipanema. It's now R8, but still a fantastic deal and a very safe mode of transportation. If you want to use this bus, it picks up on the arrival level at terminal 1 and leaves about every half hour. (Careful: do not get on the bus that only goes to centro, if you stay in zona sul.)
Arrived at the Premier Copacabana, my favorite hotel because of its close proximity to the Siquiero Campos metro and L'uomo, around 3 pm. Threw my luggage on the bed, changed, and went across the street to hop on the metro. Current price for a one-way ticket: R2. 80. Again an excellent transportation option; MUCH better than a taxi, because it is cheaper, faster and safer. Got off at Uruguaiana station and walked the two blocks to 4*4. At 4:30 I was in my bathrobe in the boite. They still waive the entrance fee, if you session before 5, but I was not interested and wanted to take my time. The 1-hour session is now R220, but it is still the best deal in the upscale termas competition.
The scene in the boite of 4*4 has been described many times, but if you are new to the forum, here is a quick overview: at least 50 girls in bikinis, almost all of them doable, and at least 15-20 very desirable in my book, all crammed into a space the size of a squash court. Add about 50 to 80 horny guys, LOUD dance music, two small bars, and a dance stage with stripper pole, and you get the picture. I love this place.
I recognized a view girls from my last visit in September, among them Rafaela, who I had had a session with. My eyes lingered on her amazing body just a bit too long, and she came over. Beijos. I was determined to try somebody new, but also did not have the willpower to shake her off. So I let her get all over me, let her rub my dick, and do all the stuff that would get you kicked out of any strip joint in the US in an instant. After about 30 minutes of this I felt guilty and excused myself for a visit to the sauna.
When I returned to the boite a strip show was just starting. Love those! I wiggled through the crowd and got all the way to the back, standing between the bar and the stage. Somehow I have a thing about banging the strippers. One girl I was particularly impressed with was Nicky. Her deeply bronzed body is flawless in my book, and she has a really pretty face. After her dance she put her bikini back on just on the other side of the stage from where I was standing, about 5 feet away from me. I made eye contact and smiled. That's all it took for her to know that she had reeled in this gringo. After a few drinks and a lot of foreplay we headed to the cabina. Great session, would definitely repeat. After our encounter I returned to the boite, and when she came back in 5 minutes later, she joined me again for some intense hugs and kisses and a drink. I really love that part, and it is perhaps what most puts the Brazilian scene above the FKK scene in Germany.
I wanted to pace myself and after eating a steak sandwich and taking the metro back I was in bed by 11. Very good start for this Rio adventure.
sounds like you are talking about business casual with khaki pants or something. correct? with that, you probably are standing out from the shorts-wearing geeks, hipster college boys with club clothes, and want to-be pimps. so that would explain it. you look like. somebody that has a real job and real cash? .
well. thanks, i think. you're right; there are guys who come to rio to bang ugly middle aged swingers at a2a and younger civilians of the same caliber from nuth, etc. i don't get it. when in rio, i take putas because, as a monger, they are my counterpart. we share a common deviation, perhaps weakness, and i like the nastiness of them and go all out for them, despite the risks, to the extent they go all-out for me. for those guys who are canada or us based, save your cash. check jackson's usa guide, illinois, melrose park. 15th ave abs. some of these are 20 something and good looking, typically repressed american perverts, fly to ord, drive 30 minutes, shack in a hotel of your choosing from 40 usd+. spend a week there 10 am-close or whenever you feel like it. you'll see and participate in some depraved stuff for the price of a single session in vm. brasilian putas have nothing on chicago housewives. nasty, closeted, sick minded, beyond belief nasty. i've mongerered far-flung corners of the earth; brothels, bars, fetish clubs worldwide and never seen anything that surpasses it. i'm verbose here, but i don't have words for that place. most mongers would be scared shitless by the ferocity of these women, which is why i have a hard time hearing the sob stories about americanas vs brasileiras. i don't see the same perversion in brasileiras, perhaps their quasi-catholic sensibilities? i recommend, if happenstance takes you to brasil, monger it like there's no tommorow. otherwise, since we are being robbed on the price of p4p in brasil, considering the common brasileiro's income, seek out the sexually repressed in western or asian countries for lower or no cost. chicago is one example, tokyo is equally rich in opportunity if not moreso. the gaijin bars and internatonal parties, they are full of japanese girls who want to experience foreigners. the list goes on. as previously posted ord is airport code for chicago o'hare international airport. (you know, like gig.)
usasexguide is jackson's american version of isg.
15th st is an adult book store, (abs,) located in melrose pk, a western suburb of chicago. it was hot and happening when it first opened, attracting swinging couples. sadly it's hit or miss lately, (mostly miss.) it has a good sized theater area, where previously couples would appear to play with whoever was present. there was a doctors exam table, a sex swing, and couches. sadly these have been removed. they have private peep booths with glory holes, (gh) allowing one to engage in anonymous oral. at last report, that i am aware of, these gh were covered up. for an extra charge 15th st also has a private spa.
when 15th first opened, one could find your typical overweight midwest housewife, milf's as well as twenty something hotties engaging in gangbangs, circle jerks, cumbaths, wife swapping etc, all out in the open and with approval of there significant others. and all for the price of $15 for the single male. weekends were amazing! it got too big, and drew too much attention from the local authorities. nowadays whenever any action occurs it happens out of public view. now that $15 may only buy you ticket to a porn vid projected on a 50ft screen.
one can find similar action at the swing clubs in rio, albeit with a higher cover charge for the single male. and the female bodies, more than likely, will be in better shape.
i'll give a slight advantage to the some of the chicago area gals as they'll take on all forms of guys, regardless of age, and appearance and with all holes available. some of these gals even do these things bareback! in the few times i've gone to rio's swing clubs, i've yet to see a brasileira do any of those things.
all things considered, i'd rather go to rio.
Great Post Snr Euro. Good to see you got out to Tijuca, R$ 80 a throw, can't better that!
Rafaela 4x4: Did her once, as you said very agressive, she just insisted on throwing me on the bed and giving a "Beija Negra". Built like a Body Builder that she is, I waas scared at some points and I am well over 6" tall. I liked her very much for a one throw, she does everything!
Pamela (Bel Prazer?). If the place you went to was Bel Prazer I know her as well, beautiful face. Soem guys love her others say she is so so.
Luomo: When is it now great?
Sorry I couldn't meet up, I just had a shit load of shit to deal with and your Timing was right in the middle of it. All resolved now, if you had just arrived today would have been FUN! Next time!
Great Post Snr Euro. Good to see you got out to Tijuca, R$ 80 a throw, can't better that!
Rafaela 4x4: Did her once, as you said very agressive, she just insisted on throwing me on the bed and giving a "Beija Negra". Built like a Body Builder that she is, I waas scared at some points and I am well over 6" tall. I liked her very much for a one throw, she does everything!
Pamela (Bel Prazer?). If the place you went to was Bel Prazer I know her as well, beautiful face. Soem guys love her others say she is so so.
Luomo: When is it now great?
Sorry I couldn't meet up, I just had a shit load of shit to deal with and your Timing was right in the middle of it. All resolved now, if you had just arrived today would have been FUN! Next time! Yes, I forgot to include the name of the private; it is indeed Bel Prazer. I think that T69 said that both 181 and 185 are Bel Prazer. BTW, my former fav at Tijuca now also works at Bel Prazer, according to T69. And yes, I am in the "lover her" category with Pamela, solidly so! But as I said many times on this board, I fall in love OFTEN!
OH, one more thing: the metro station is Carioca (the one between Cinelandia and Uruguaiana). Somehow I am at war with the new forum software. It replaced the station with a, it would not let me attach my photo, and it deleted all smiles.
Anybody knows what happened with Flavia massagens that used to be in Avenida Rio Branco 181, sala 1006? Did it move to a new location or did it close for good? It was one of my top favourite casas.
Anybody knows what happened with Flavia massagens that used to be in Avenida Rio Branco 181, sala 1006? Did it move to a new location or did it close for good? It was one of my top favourite casas.Definitely closed down for good. I do not believe they opened a new place. There are various posts on Gpguia as to where most of the girls went, but that was 6 months ago, hence most have probably drifted off further to where ever it is that working girls go to end their careers.
Definitely closed down for good. I do not believe they opened a new place. There are various posts on Gpguia as to where most of the girls went, but that was 6 months ago, hence most have probably drifted off further to where ever it is that working girls go to end their careers.Is that both locations? I know they had another office in Tijuca, but I never actually visited that one.
Eric Cartman
02-03-11, 01:21
Yes, Rio has become horrendously expensive – I spent a good $1, 000 on 4 days of sex. If one counts just the number of encounters I had, I could have done better price-wise even in the German FKK scene. But for the sheer emotional intensity Rio cannot be beat! It's still the best way on the planet to spend a short fuckation. I can't wait to be back.That about sums it up. With some investment in time and cash, and living here, you can bring the CPF (cost per fuck) down, but you pretty much nailed it.
Member #3439
02-03-11, 05:58
Definitely closed down for good. I do not believe they opened a new place. There are various posts on Gpguia as to where most of the girls went, but that was 6 months ago, hence most have probably drifted off further to where ever it is that working girls go to end their careers.Flavia's Duda and Carla were reported at Rio Lux, RB 156 Sala 1526 as of a few months ago. This place is okay. 6 months ago they had a frequent fucker card system. Since then, who knows. Like you said. I just know I was never introduced to them at the time, but maybe they were busy.
On the other hand, some of these girls seem to stay forever at a casa so it's worth a try. Think of Duda and Betina at Bel Prazer. [Digressing to a review of her, since she's still there]I fucked Bel Prazer's Duda anal on the last trip and was surprised that her bud was aesthetically pleasing. Seems it would show the mileage. I'll go further and give you the straight story, her asshole looks much better than her face and she has a weird body shape. I think she needs to offer anal to stay employed there because its the only saving grace. I had come there specifically for anal, and selected her over Bianca (much better looking) especially because she is sure-fire anal. Bad mistake. I couldn't really stand to look at her face, turns me off. I didn't want to DFK or DATY, that's rare. We got doggy style and I fucked her anal until the stink was grossing me out. The room smelt like a dumpster. WTF. Maybe enema is overpriced in Brasil like coconuts and baby oil? Contrast this with Petra at Luomo who apparently does realize that she is a puta, and prepares accordingly by keeping her tail pipe clean. I did Petra anal for a long, long time and there was no stink whatsoever. Same with another girl in one of the other Rio Branco casas. No smell.
You're getting at the age old question. Where do the other girls disappear to? A puta doesn't wake up one day and decide to not be a puta anymore. If one casa closes, there are others, or there is VM. Frustrating. It seems to me like everytime I find a real GFE girl, that girl is always a short timer that vaporizes from the scene in less than a few months. Like Brenda at Flavia or Gabrielle at 22. The girls were new to the casas when I had them, within 2 months after my departures they quit and thats a bummer b/c I can't see them again on the next trip. Everytime it's like starting the search all over. But maybe it's a good thing. If I knew where to find that Gabrielle Bar 22 girl that I posted back in June, I might spend the next whole trip fucking her. All the turnover keeps us from becoming too monogamous in our mongering. I never even did repeats till 2010. Now on every trip I end up taking 2 or 3 a day and toward the end, at least one of those is a repeat. Mainly because there are only so many girls who are still willing to take the shot on goal naturally. 80% are either dodging or bagging it, which is not fun. The whole idea of sex is that the cum actually goes in the body somewhere, not in a rubber or on tits, her arm, the floor, etc.
But then I think *again* and wonder if the girls that I like (because they go sem camisinha) don't last at the casas very long because someone got them sick. It's overanalyzing, but hey this is my hobby and I like to understand what goes on behind the scenes...If they had a People magazine covering our favorite putas I'd read it. The Copa termas girls, at least, seem to live a lifestyle where they are celebrities, at least from casa opening time until some gringo kicks them out the next morning. :) Like Ingrid at Luomo...People fuck her and still talk about it 8 years later, and show pictures.
Member #3439
02-03-11, 07:20
But maybe it's a good thing. If I knew where to find that Gabrielle girl from Bar 22 that I posted back in June, I might spend the next whole trip fucking her. All the turnover keeps us from becoming too monogamous in our mongering.And for further illustration of the point, I must add that there is a finders fee for anyone who can re-introduce me to Gabrielle, formerly of Bar 22, during the week after next. . The 3 of us meet at Bar 22 and I pay your cover + an hour session fee for your efforts, or equivalent compensation. So if anybody has skills to talk that mama at 22 into making the connection using that number that she probably still has in her cell phone, let me know. Once I reach agreement with that girl for quality time at standard Bar 22 rates + R50 Taxi money, you get your compensation as well. Yes, it's that good.
Pardon my poor etiquette in responding to my own post. The forum edit deadline timed out on me...
Sexmachine1
02-03-11, 13:55
Finally, I touched down at GIG around 11AM for my 7th trip within the last 7 years. Sitting in front of the plane and with no check-in luggage, I was in out of there in literally 5 minutes. Had to wait about 1/2 hr. For the Onibus. R$8. 00 is very cheap but the bus took 1. 5 hrs. To get to Copacabana. Centro was incredibly busy on the way, with bus being so full that I had to stand with the Carry-on most of the way. Never had that before. Have to rethink about the Onibus next time. Check-in at Atlantico copacabana was a breeze. Anyone interested, I booked it at venere. Com at $110 per night. I think it is a great deal considering the free breakfast and location of the hotel. Went out to change the money and got 1. 68 for the US$. Ate lunch and now I was ready to go to my favorite Terma, Luomo.
Sexmachine1
02-03-11, 14:24
i finally reached luomo at 4 pm. showered and off to boite. there were about 15 girls. some usual like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), natalie, bianca among others whom i know by face but not by name. it got busier later on but i still think the talent was on the lighter side. of course, quite a few girls recognized me and approached me but i couldn't decide right away. finally, i decided to go with this girl (sorry, no names). really friendly in the boite. dfk and lots of massage in the boite until i had enough. vamos to the cabine. even better in the cabine. came twice in those short 40 min. walked out with a big smile. this is why i choose rio over any other city. came back to boite, had another drink and decided to check out monte carlo. total damage r$284 including 5 drinks ans a session. not bad really. i checked the bill carefully. i wasn´t charged entrada.
reached monte carlo around 8 pm. met a fellow canadian jc at the reception, who lives like 15 min. from me. wow, it is a small world. we were both alone so decided to hang out together. now, i am not a big fan of monte carlo but last night, it was as good as i've ever seen. there must have been at least 40 girls and about 6 guys including us. we were approached by atleast 20 girls, if not more. by being approched, i don't mean just saying hello, all of them literally sat down with us for a good few minutes, until i politely asked them to leave. there were some good looking girls there. i liked it better than luomo for the first time ever. it was getting around midnight so we decided not to take a girl there and check out the balcony scene.
balcony was busier than ever. you couldn't even walk there. this is my 1st trip since help closed down, so i saw atleast 10 help garotas there among good 40-50 girls. food is not that good and cervajas are at inflated price so most people were just standing around taking to girls, taking their nos. we were approached by a couple of nice looking help garotas and i was quoted r$400 which i laughed off and countered with r$150 which seemed to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off. jc was interested in her friend and both agreed on r$200 but when i didn´t take my girl, he kicked her off and now they were both pissed. anyways, we were there for about 2 hrs. until we decided on a couple of girls. they asked for r$200 each but settled on r$150 each. jc took hers to a nearby motel called lido. i took mine to my hotel. just an ok session. sent her back to balcony for recirculation in less than 1 hr. i was tired with the long flight on previous night and there was on chemistry between us. that´s why i like termas much better than independent girls.
finally, called it a night around 3 am, with plan to go to 4x4 tomorrow with jc. stay tuned...................
Sexmachine1
02-04-11, 18:37
So, as per our plans, we met to go to 4x4 at around 1PM today. Took metro to Carioca station. There's a mall right at exit. We ate there and JC changed some money. Was given shitty 1. 65 to the dollar. I got 1. 68 yesterday in Copacabana. Anyways, by the time we got to 4x4, it was almost 3 Pm. It is pretty hot in Rio so we showered and changed and then to boite. It took us all of 5 minutes to find our girls. Both were very nice. Hung out for an hour before going to the cabine before 5PM. I would say that there were less girls there then my last trip but still some very doables. I had a good session. Nothing spectacular but certainly not bad. May be it's my luck but I've never had an amazing session at 4x4. On the other hand, I 've had several memorable experiences in Lúomo and Monte Carlo. Well, JC had an amazing time with his girl. We met back at boite, had another cerveja and decided to get to Luomo before 7 Pm to save half on entrada.
We made it to Lúomo about 5 minutes before 7. It was pretty busy. About 12-15 guys. I think that's a lot of guys for a small boite like in Lúomo. Most of the same girls. Few came over to greet but I decided to repeat my yesterday's girl. JC could not decide so he waited for me to come back from the session. Needless to say, it was even better than yesterday. Very intimate and real GFE. In the cabine, she asked for my phone no. and I said that I had a problem getting a SIM card. So, she promised to bring one for me tomorrow and said that tomorrow is her last day at work because she has a vacation of 6 days until next Friday and that she would like to hang out with me during those days. Now, I will have to think about hooking up with her during one of those days, may be go to the beach or go to some tourist places. Anyways, did I mention she knocked my socks off. Back to boite. JC still hadn´t decided so we hung around there more. There were a couple of small 1 song shows as usual. One girl had a birthday yesterday so she cut the cake and everybody cheered. Cake was pretty good actually. It tasted even better when my girl brought her plate over and fed me a couple of pieces. To anybody interested, Ingrid was there yesterday. Few guys left and a big group of Brazilian guys came in which made every girl to dance and show there skills. But as we all know, most of them, don´t take the girl in the cabine. JC was getting tired so he left around 11 for an hour´s rest and promised to meet in my hotel´s lobby at midnight to go to Balcony again. Of course, I stayed until 11:45 and chatted with a bunch of girls, attracting jealous looks from my girl. oh well, I am not a one woman man.
So we walked to Balcony and it was a zoo as usual. Today, I saw atleast 30-40 Help girls. I think Balcony has filled the void of Terracco Atlantico to some extent. Few good looking ones entered in Dolce Vita. I still haven´t been inside but I understand that it is very small place. Some of the previous ugly Help girls have even more attitude than before. I wasn´t looking to hook up with anybody but JC was eager to find one. He found one allright. We were talking to these 2 girls, very pretty nicely dressed, real pros who spoke good english and insisting to take´em both at good price for a Festa. If any girl speaks english, I´m usually not interested but they were both very pretty. While we were talking, one of the girl´s sister showed up and JC fell in love right then and there. She was 18 but looked no more than 14. Tall, skinny, Nice medium white skin curly brunette, Denim shorts. Better than the girls we were talking to. JC didn´t waste any time. Grabbed her hand, asked me to wait for 1 hr. and he was gone with her without even saying a word to her. So he returned after 1 hr. with a smile. Reported that she insisted on money first, although he usually doesn´t pay first, he did pay US$125 beforehand. At that price, she said that BJ will be covered and she asked for another US$ 50 for BBBJ, which JC didn´t wanna pay. But after that, he had one of the best sex experiences ever, with lots of pictures which he later showed me on his iphone. JC claimed her to be an animal which I believe after looking at the pictures. We hung out until 4 AM, chatted with a few girls and walked back.
Tomorrow will be a Centaurus day, followed by who knows where but definitely ending at Balcony. So keep reading guys and if anybody wants to meet up for a beer or ten, you are most welcome to. Just PM me.
I know this is the Rio forum, but, when I went to the appropriate thread for this, the last post was from March of last year. Anyway, I recently learned that Recife was the jump off point for Brazilians bound for Europe for sex work. Given this info, I was just wondering if this meant there were alot of girls available there for P4P. Any info?
Rodeo
I made my first trip to RIO in January 2011.
I had a lot of information from the forum. Thank you for posting your experiences. It helps a lot especially when it is your first time.
I had really a great time and I am still, few weeks after, under the charm of this city (country?).
Rio was not the top priority on my wish list. In South America, I was attracted by Buenos Aires and Argentina.
One of my best friend is working in Rio so we decided to visit him with another friend. I spent 5 days there and went also 4 days to Buenos Aires. And I really enjoyed Rio much more.
Day 1.
I arrived on early Saturday morning. Direction Ipanema where my friend is living. After beach, caipirinha and lunch we went to L'uomo. I was really impatient to have this first experience. I know well Fkk in Germany and appreciate them so I was quite convinced to have a good time in termas.
We went to L'uomo early, about 4PM. And it was great. About 20 girls (good looking in average) and only few guys. I had some drinks and found a very nice looking girl (white color, brunette and very nice face with lovely eyes, not tall when she removed her high heels. 27 years she told me). Had a chat with her (she speaks very good english) and choose 1 hour. Sorry no name because I have some difficulties in remembering the names! Let's called her Nathalie. I was happy with the quality of the room. And the session was really good. First experience which will stay in my memory. Maybe already in love (I fall in love easily).
After dinner and bar in Lapa we went to Balcony. I have been completely disappointed by Balcony. I completely agree with some posts comparing it to the bar scene from Star Wars. I went there 4 times in total to try to get a better picture and I have been always disappointed.
Girls are far from pretty. And guys. Forget it!
First night there was only one girl (Adrianna) who was tall, slim and nice face (despite bad teeth). She told me she had been strip dancer in US. Had a chat together, she gave me her number. But she was quite boring, complicated and I was tired by the flight. We left.
Day 2.
Sunday. I knew some termas were closed. So we went to Monte Carlo. Good experience also. I had a one hour session with a nice small blond girl. We had a nice room with a kind of Jacusi. The session was good and we finished with a bath and a massage. The girl was really lovely. When we went back to the bar she came back several times to kiss me, to dance with me. Again in love?
Then Balcony (again nothing) and dinner.
After dinner, my friend arranged a meeting with a girl he knows. She was looking for a party with 3 guys. We went to a motel in Leblon. Was not easy to find because first one did not allow us to enter as we were more than a couple. Finally find a real nice one. It was a dupleix with an internal swimming pool.
Had a nice and funny moment. We know each other since many years and it was terrific! The girl was incredible and really asking for sex. She did it just for fun and for free.
Day 3.
We went to Centro to test 4x4. I did not enjoyed. I know many of you recommend this termas. Maybe I was there not a the right time or day (Monday. 2-3 PM). There were not the 50 girls I have been told, but maybe 20 or 30. But mainly the quality was poor and I have not been convinced by the equipment of the termas. Went out, no session.
Back to Zona sul.
We went to Centaurus. I had read many comments on Centaurus about poor management and prices. But I wanted to see the quality of the girls. We went there about 5 PM.
Basically we always went early to the termas, as per some of your recommendations, to avoid the busy times and keep a complete evening.
When we arrived at Centaurus I was really on the defensive. I discussed with the guy at the entrance who asked me to pay entrance + 1 session. I asked him what about if I don't find a girl I like. And he told me : okay just pay the entrance and you will pay the session after (what he just refused to the guy before me!).
So we entered the Centaurus. I did not find many differences with other termas that can justify a different policy.
The girls were okay on average but not really above L'Uomo standards. But they are much pushy. That's what I did not like there. It was not a big pressure but constant. I finally had a chat with a Brunette girl (lebanese origin) speaking fluent english. Her name is Desiree. I just remember it now! We had a 40' session together which was correct (not great, she declined my anal offer but was lovely however).
I went back to the bar (it was maybe 7 PM) and then I noticed some new girls (2) which were really nice looking. The problem of Centaurus is that there is a room where the girls can have some rest. I discover it when I went to the room with Desiree and found one very nice girl there. I saw her later at bar. Except these 2 girls, the average quality of girls was close to L'uomo. But there are more girls at Centaurus and the bar is bigger.
Finally the experience was okay and I have not been pissed by tips requests which surprised me.
But I prefered L'uomo because the girls don't approach you if you don't ask them. That was the only termas with this policy (by Monte Carlo. 4x4 and Centaurus, girls are +- pushy).
Day 4.
I was alone this day. I decided to go to L'uomo, for the reasons I just explained. But also to see the girl I was in love (my first brasilian experience!). I entered L'uomo, went to bar. See "my" girl,"Nathalie". Kissed her. Still very nice. 30 eyes on you. Had some drinks. Offer a drink to her and back to a wonderful session. After this session I had the feeling to have discovered some of the charms of Brasil. The girl was really like my girl friend. She was really generous in sharing emotions. I never had such a session with a girl I paid before. I can hardly imagine such an experience in a other places I know.
We had a very open discussion after. I offered her to join me on Saturday night. She was okay first and then told me that it would be better not to do it. We understood together that we were beginning to share feelings difficult to manage. I was disappointed. But afterwards it would have been really difficult for me to leave the country!
Day 5 : I took a flight to Buenos Aires where I could visit some well known places (Black, Cocodrilo.). Really not the same fun as in Brasil even if girls are pretty.
I came back to Rio on Saturday but very late (midnight). Too late for L'uomo. Fuck! We went to Barbarella, just to have a look. Only few nice looking girls. Not really worth to my opinion. Back to Balcony to have a drink. Same conclusion on girls quality but it was even worse for the guys (really looking like gold diggers).
And that's all for this first experience. I am now back home and still have these souvenirs in my head. I can't wait to be back. Meantime I am listening brasilian musique, always keeping an eye on news on the forum. I try to learn some words in Portuguese. And I prepare my next trip! And I think it will be difficult for me to wait long.
Exec Talent
02-04-11, 23:27
I know this is the Rio forum, but, when I went to the appropriate thread for this, the last post was from March of last year. Anyway, I recently learned that Recife was the jump off point for Brazilians bound for Europe for sex work. Given this info, I was just wondering if this meant there were alot of girls available there for P4P. Any info?
RodeoI am not disputing what you say, just curious where you got the information. Do you mean girls from other parts of Brazil go through Recife? Most of the girls traveling from Rio fly Air France to Charles De Gaulle then to Spain and Italy.
Totos: "" I was in love (my first brasilian experience!). I entered L'uomo, went to bar. See "my" girl,"Nathalie".""
Yup, I know what you mean. She is a sweetie. From you report I understand that you were with Natalie last Friday, I. E. One week ago. Next day it was Spencer's turn, and then I plowed the same field on Sunday. As with many of the term girls, Natalie can be seriously habit-forming."Love"? Yes, perhaps in the wider sense.
Too bad you did not remember any other names besides Natalie's.
Seems you are having a good time in the termas, but not a great time. Yet. My advice would be to hit the termas later. 4*4 really gets going between 6 and 8 pm, and then the place can be wild :cool:. I now try to avoid going to the termas before 6, instead hitting privates before then.
Member #3439
02-05-11, 07:53
..decided to get to Luomo before 7 Pm to save half on entrada.Thanks for confirming that Luomo still has 1/2 off entrada before 7 pm. Is the full basic pricing still R315? R70 entrada plus R245 per 40 minutes?
4x4 waives it 100% before 5 pm, unless something has changed. I will confirm in <2 weeks.
Can anyone else comment on MC or Solarium discounts?
I find termas essential on Sundays and the last day in town. Sundays are a drag, all my favorite low end places are closed. I go to Luomo. On the last day in town, I need to check out long before the flight leaves. So I go eat, drink sucos and watch garotas go by, then walk to 4x4 and have fun until time to leave. A good lay and a shower before going to GIG makes leaving Rio a little easier. Keeps suadades at bay at least until the plane wheels go up. I remember one guy here getting to GIG and he couldn't do it, he turned right back around. Maybe he didn't stop in for one of the early bird specials before leaving? :)
Thanks for the posts Euro100, Sexmachine, and Totos!
Exec Talent
02-05-11, 08:31
Thanks for confirming that Luomo still has 1/2 off entrada before 7 pm. Is the full basic pricing still R315? R70 entrada plus R245 per 40 minutes?
4x4 waives it 100% before 5 pm, unless something has changed. I will confirm in <2 weeks.
Can anyone else comment on MC or Solarium discounts?
Thanks for the posts Euro100, Sexmachine, and Totos! Monte Carlo:
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/milhagem.shtml (700 Points. Free entrance with 40 minute program)
Sign up at physical location (also give e-mail to receptionist for other discounts)
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/festainternet.shtml
Provide your e-mail and receive free entrance on Monday e-mails (used to be Tuesday)
In both cases you will receive e-mails about special events.
Solarium:
http://www.solarium.com.br/fidelidade.php (1000 points. Free entrance with 40 minute program)
You accumulate 1. 3 points for R$ spent.
http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php
As best as I can tell Solarium also offers an e-mail program for a free entrance on Monday.
Same deal. Give them an e-mail address either in person or online and you will receive e-mail notifications of special events.
At both locations when you sign up for the points program they will ask for your name and scan your forefinger. You do not have to give them your real name. When you return, they will ask to rescan your forefinger to credit your points.
Exec Talent
02-05-11, 08:39
Seems you are having a good time in the termas, but not a great time. Yet. My advice would be to hit the termas later. 4*4 really gets going between 6 and 8 pm, and then the place can be wild :cool:. I now try to avoid going to the termas before 6, instead hitting privates before then.In the case of 4x4 I try to get there early, select a girl, take her to the somewhat private bar (I know they remodeled but I think it is still there) , have a drink, chat a bit then go to the room. I prefer to be well on my way before the macho guys with their robes around their waists playing grab ass with the girls make it impossible to move or check out a girl's butt.
Member #3439
02-05-11, 08:50
Monte Carlo:
At both locations when you sign up for the points program they will ask for your name and scan your forefinger. You do not have to give them your real name. When you return, they will ask to rescan your forefinger to credit your points. Thanks for this info. I was wondering why Brasileiros always telling me I should go to Solarium. They probably like it for the the points. Or they're just trying to get me to stay away from the low end places that they like.
Kinda odd that they take biometric data in brothel. Seems traceable. I use a special service in Tokyo that gives you a membership card and takes your 'name' as a bit-check. Low tech in a high tech country. When you contact them, you just give your card number and your 'name' and they have all your preferences for services, past records of which girls you saw and what you did with them, what they wore, how long the session was. Girls show up with a file that has forms that were filled out by past girls you saw. I almost laughed the second time I used the service and realized that they were writing field reports on me after session and filing them. What diligence, writing reports just like an ISG member. :) Were it so in Rio...
Thanks for confirming that Luomo still has 1/2 off entrada before 7 pm. Is the full basic pricing still R315? R70 entrada plus R245 per 40 minutes?
4x4 waives it 100% before 5 pm, unless something has changed. I will confirm in <2 weeks.
Can anyone else comment on MC or Solarium discounts?
I find termas essential on Sundays and the last day in town. Sundays are a drag, all my favorite low end places are closed. I go to Luomo. On the last day in town, I need to check out long before the flight leaves. So I go eat, drink sucos and watch garotas go by, then walk to 4x4 and have fun until time to leave. A good lay and a shower before going to GIG makes leaving Rio a little easier. Keeps suadades at bay at least until the plane wheels go up. I remember one guy here getting to GIG and he couldn't do it, he turned right back around. Maybe he didn't stop in for one of the early bird specials before leaving? .
Thanks for the posts Euro100, Sexmachine, and Totos! Yes, you go the L'uomo pricing almost perfect. It is 240 for the 40 min session, plus the entrance fee. Normally 70, but reduced to 35 if you session and arrive before 7 pm. IN other words the session is 310 if you arrive after 7 pm, and 275 if you arrive before 7 pm.
4x4: Yes, the completely waive the entrance fee if you session before 5 pm. I recommend the hour session. And if you start that session before 5 pm, the total damage is 220 now. Best deal in town for the upscale termas.
Oh, and I was the guy who turned around at the airport for one more day. Post is here:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940761
I had done the early bird deed, and it was good. But it was so good that I needed more. Addicted to sex, and loving it!
In the case of 4x4 I try to get there early, select a girl, take her to the somewhat private bar (I know they remodeled but I think it is still there) , have a drink, chat a bit then go to the room. I prefer to be well on my way before the macho guys with their robes around their waists playing grab ass with the girls make it impossible to move or check out a girl's butt.Yes, that upstairs bar is still there, and they have done a very good job remodeling it. It has tables with chairs, too. It is very quiet, and so it is easy to chat with a girl. Plus, then now have air-conditioned nice rooms with showers directly connected to the back door of that bar. In some ways this is actually a nicer setup than the main boite, and this upstairs part of 4x4 could actually be a standalone terma all by itself. So I agree that for your purposes this is perfect.
However, what attracts me most to 4x4 is the sheer rowdiness of the place. So the main boite after 6 pm and near the stripper pole is where I like it most. When the strip shows start and the adrenaline is pumping, ahhh that is when you know that you are alive :cool:. In the US the strippers cannot be touched, except for stuffing dollar bills into their garter belts, whereas here you can grab a particularly desirable performer right after her routine, chat with her, feel her up, drink with her, DFK with her, and then bed her. THis is my second-most favorite game plan anywhere in Rio.
Totos: "" I was in love (my first brasilian experience!). I entered L'uomo, went to bar. See "my" girl,"Nathalie".""
Yup, I know what you mean. She is a sweetie. From you report I understand that you were with Natalie last Friday, I. E. One week ago. Next day it was Spencer's turn, and then I plowed the same field on Sunday. As with many of the term girls, Natalie can be seriously habit-forming."Love"? Yes, perhaps in the wider sense.
Too bad you did not remember any other names besides Natalie's.Yes it pisses me off not to remember the names! In the case of L'uomo, I named the girl Nathalie but to make it easier for you to read my post. But I am really not sure about her name.
What I can tell you is that she is a brasilian white skin, let's say 1. 65m tall, brunette, really nice face, eyes and smile. A bit shy at the beginning. Educated girl, speaking really good english. 27 years old (she told me, but she seems even less). She told me she studied law at university. Does this match with the Nathalie you know? I was with her on Saturday 15 January & Monday 17.
I have asked my friend who lives in Rio to go back to L'uomo to ask for her name! And at the same time for her phone no and email address. I hope he will deliver.
Regarding termas, I really enjoyed and had great moments. At l'uomo of course but also at Monte Carlo and to some extent at Centaurus. The nice thing with Bresilian girls is that you can expect to share some feelings even if we all know that we are paying. If you give them attention, affection, you should be pay back. And that's quite rare per my experience of other countries. Moreover they are latin, so there is the challenge to seduce you. Even again if we pay for it. But it gives really a bigger emotion than to enter a brothel and have a session with a girl straightforward. At Centaurus for instance, I was not really convinced to go with the girl who initiated the conversation. She noticed it. She told me that it was not easy for her to keep the conversation on! But she really made her best efforts, spoke about things I was interested and try to seduce me. I can hardly imagine it elsewhere.
Per my very small experience, be really nice with the girls, enter the game of seduction, enjoy your chat before the session and you should have the greatest experience.
Regarding your comments about time to get in termas. You are certainly true for 4x4. Because I went it at 2/3 PM and there were not so many girls as I have been told. But for L'uomo, Monte Carlo or Centaurus I am not sure. The girls told at L'Uomo that they have to come at 3PM (till midnight). So you should have all the girls from the opening. And at 6/7 PM you will get more guys and these termas are small. I noticed it at Centaurus. I entered at 5/6 PM and a lot of girls were already there (but unfortunately for me, the best looking ones where having some rest in the room which is reserved for them). When I came back from my session, about 7PM, all the girls were at the bar but the number of guys was increasing.
However, at 5, 7 or 10 PM that's great. I just have to rob a bank and go back.
Yes, that upstairs bar is still there, and they have done a very good job remodeling it. It has tables with chairs, too. It is very quiet, and so it is easy to chat with a girl.I have not been to 4x4 for several months but last time I was there my problem with the upstairs bar was that it became the smoking room and since it was the only place you could smoke there it became very thick. I liked the old set-up better where the room was thrice the size but still usually empty and it had the stripper poles too where they would have shows and the girls would occasionally spontaneously put on a show. I agree with ET though. Even with the new set-up it is the best place to take a girl to chat before a session. My method is to see a girl that looks attractive and then invite her to the other bar where we could conduct a more thorough interview.
Actually, you guys are half right. The girls at most Termas start at staggered shifts. So at Luomo, some girls start at 3-4 and work until midnight. Others start at 6 and work until 2 a. M. Centaurus, same sort of schedule. At 4x4, some start as early as 2 p. M, others as late as 4 pm. And the 4 pm girl won't get into the bar area until about 4:30. 4:45 by the time she gets makeup, etc all done. So, for the best selection. 4:30-6:30. If you sit in Centaurus, you can watch the inflow of new talent as each shift comes on. Of course, some girls have their regulars, and disappear as soon as they get there, reappearing about an hour later. And at 4x4, some early girls will hang out in the Whiskeria, until the mamasan chases them upstairs. Then, they will do a quick walk through, and if no customers look likely, head back downstairs. It just take perseverance and hard work!
... while we were talking, one of the girl´s sister showed up and jc fell in love right then and there. she was 18 but looked no more than 14. tall, skinny, nice medium white skin curly brunette, denim shorts. better than the girls we were talking to. jc didn´t waste any time. grabbed her hand, asked me to wait for 1 hr. and he was gone with her without even saying a word to her. so he returned after 1 hr. with a smile. reported that she insisted on money first, although he usually doesn´t pay first, he did pay us$125 beforehand. at that price, she said that bj will be covered and she asked for another us$ 50 for bbbj, which jc didn´t wanna pay. but after that, he had one of the best sex experiences ever, with lots of pictures which he later showed me on his iphone. jc claimed her to be an animal which i believe after looking at the pictures.i hope you can convince your friend jc to post some of this girl's pics on isg. considering $125 = 215r, it seems an ok deal if she rocked his world for a solid hour. unfortunately, there is a very lax policy concerning age at balcony that girl may very well have been ****d as so many were at terraco atlantico when help was open. that is why some hot girls never go inside.
Ipanema Carioca
02-06-11, 02:15
i hope you can convince your friend jc to post some of this girl's pics on isg. considering $125 = 215r, it seems an ok deal if she rocked his world for a solid hour. unfortunately, there is a very lax policy concerning age at balcony that girl may very well have been ****d as so many were at terraco atlantico when help was open. that is why some hot girls never go inside.r$215 for a balcony street hoe! please! that's why the girls are the way they are!
Sexmachine1
02-06-11, 18:12
as per our previous agreement, we met in my hotel lobby to go to this japanese restaurant near carioca metro where jc has been going for years. the place was jam packed with 10-15 people standing at the door to get the table. but jc knew the owner and we were waived right in. that was good because we were short on time and wanted to get to centaurus early. food was average and bill was r$90 with a couple of dishes and soft drinks. yakisoba was pretty good actually.
we made our way to centaurus around 4 pm. i have only been here twice in last 3 years but jc used to spend 8-10 hours most days in here. i could tell because he knew everybody there. he paid r$ 450 but i only paid entrada r$ 120. this place has never been better than luomo or mc in my opinion. even jc wasn't too impressed today. we were approached by a very aggressive girl as we entered. i didn't mind because we wanted to spend few hours in there. so it was ok to sit and have fun with her while watching other girls. she asked me to marry her and to take her away from brazil like so many brasileiras ask me on my every trip. of course, i said yes to that like i say to every other girl. anyways, she wanted to kiss a lot and she spoke passable english but spoke a lot too so i got annoyed and tired of her after about 20 min. and asked her nicely to leave us alone. she got dissappointed and left. while jc was talking to another girl but still wasn't interested in anybody yet. a couple of hours passed by, we spoke with a few more girls, small talk but nobody we really liked. at r$ 450, she better be a goddess. later, we decided to go and sit at the bar. a couple of more girls approached us there but still nobody. finally, we saw a girl entering the boite and we both agreed that she was the best looking girl so far. jc didn't want to waste any time. called her over, talked for a few minutes and gone for 40. sayuri works at centaurus now, if anyone's interested. she saw me and came running. giggly as usual. still braces and looks just as good as ever. i got her number so that i could arrange her to meet me at my hotel. by the time, jc got back and we had some more drinks, it was around 10 pm. time flies in the termas. we decided to leave, rest for a couple of hours and agreed to meet at balcony around midnight.
but i had other plans. i stopped by at luomo for a quickie this time with the same girl. even better session. she made me come twice in less than 30 minutes. later she said she wanted to hang out outside of termas. so i got her no. but haven´t decided yet. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) walked over to say hello and discreetly passed her phone no. to go to discoteca later on. i haven´t called her yet.
i got to balcony around 12:30. jc was already there. same ugly girls with bad attitude. jc kinda liked a girl, who i´d seen million times in help for years but never talked to since she´s not my type. she recognized me right away and even told me the names of the girls i used to hang out with in help. we decided to hang out with them. they were already in dolce vita and smoking outside. so, we decided to enter since we´d never been there before. r$20 entrance. the place is not half bad. sure it is small. some of the help staff has moved over here. same help security guys. same help dj. same help waiter. of course, same help girls. cervejas are r$ 9.00 each plus service charge. so, i paid r$20 for 2 beers. we had some fun dancing, chatting with other girls while jc could not get over her nice round bunda. before we knew, it was few minutes past 4:00, i wanted to get back and by this time jc was pretty tired too so he decided to make a us$100 offer for tln which she declined and said her minimum was us$150. jc wasn´t too eager to do her anyways so we left for our hotels and called it a night. plans for tommorrow were to go to the beach since it would be a saturday.
Sayuri works at Centaurus now, if anyone's interested. She saw me and came running. Giggly as usual. Still braces and looks just as good as ever. I got her number so that I could arrange her to meet me at my hotel. By the time, JC got back and we had some more drinks, it was around 10 Pm. Time flies in the Termas.Sayuri is really proud of the fact that she works in Cs. She told me on the beach "Its really hard to be selected to work there, many girls get denied". Club Help had really fucked up Sayuri's free market value. I remember when she started at 4x4, you could have her all night at your hotel for 200R! Once she started going to Help, it was over, her price went sky high. All those italians went crazy for her and started paying her 4-500R a night!
Anyone who decides to take her at Centaraus, Balconey or off the beach, make sure you check the area around her mouth for an outbreak before you bring her back to your room. I will be honest, she used to be a beast in the room, but those outbreaks will keep me from ever taking her again!
Sexmachine1
02-06-11, 18:48
r$215 for a balcony street hoe! please! that's why the girls are the way they are!i am talking about a light skinned, **** looking while not **** of course, skinny tall beautiful face and body girl for about r$ 200. if you think that's too much, i would like to know how you get those girls to go for less money. please teach me something. i'm sure there are girls there that'll go for r$ 100 but not all girls. would you agree?
Sexmachine1
02-06-11, 19:00
Sayuri is really proud of the fact that she works in Cs. She told me on the beach "Its really hard to be selected to work there, many girls get denied". Club Help had really fucked up Sayuri's free market value. I remember when she started at 4x4, you could have her all night at your hotel for 200R! Once she started going to Help, it was over, her price went sky high. All those italians went crazy for her and started paying her 4-500R a night!
Anyone who decides to take her at Centaraus, Balconey or off the beach, make sure you check the area around her mouth for an outbreak before you bring her back to your room. I will be honest, she used to be a beast in the room, but those outbreaks will keep me from ever taking her again! I agree with you 100 percent. I've had some of the best sex sessions ever with her in my apartment 2-3 years ago and never paid her more than R$200. That's for 2 shots and no clock watching. I might have been able to pay less but I would have felt bad paying any less after she'the performed so amazingly. I remember her getting picked up in Help within minutes of walking in there every night. I had never seen her alone ever in Help. So, of course, she wanted more money. Why wouldn't she?
She is a very high mileage girl. She got picked up in Centaurus literally within 2 minutes of walking into the boite. That's precisely the reason, I haven't gotten together with her in my last couple of trips.
That also proves the poor quality of girls in Centaurus where Sayuri is the most wanted girl. But I don't blame the guys because she is an animal in bed. Her name should have been SexMachine, not mine.
Sexmachine1
02-06-11, 19:05
i hope you can convince your friend jc to post some of this girl's pics on isg. considering $125 = 215r, it seems an ok deal if she rocked his world for a solid hour. unfortunately, there is a very lax policy concerning age at balcony that girl may very well have been ****d as so many were at terraco atlantico when help was open. that is why some hot girls never go inside.i shall try to post some of the pics when we get back home since we didn't bring laptop. all of them have face shots. jc actually spent 4 days in fortaleza before coming here and he showed me a lot of pics from there as well. i'll tell you this. after seeing those pics, i will be going to fortaleza at my earliest convenience.
sm1
Sexmachine1
02-06-11, 19:17
Seems you are having a good time in the termas, but not a great time. Yet. My advice would be to hit the termas later. 4*4 really gets going between 6 and 8 pm, and then the place can be wild :cool:. I now try to avoid going to the termas before 6, instead hitting privates before then.I know what you mean. But I am not a big fan of 4x4 that's why I rarely go there. I usually go there once on my trip of 10 days, just to see the new talent and I try to reach around 3 Pm. That gives me enough time to relax, select a girl, spend half hour witth her and still beat the 5 PM fee. I am usuallu out of there around 7 PM.
On the other hand, Luomo and MC are my favorites and I usually spend 6-8 hours when I go there. There have been numerous incidents where I'had spent from 3 PM to 1 AM at the same place. That does cover 6-8 PM time. But you are very right because a lot of guys come in at that time and the place gets electric with every Garota on her feet dancing and trying to lure the guys into taking them.
SM1
R$215 for a Balcony street hoe! Please! That's why the girls are the way they are!I really can't see the problem with this. Yeah you can do a bit better, but you can do much worse as well. R$ 200 for a decent quality chic is not a stupid price.
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Okay, I know she's not, but has anyone seen her nude pics in W Magazine? See attached. I'd like to annoint her as an honorary Brasileira-any objections?
Rodeo
Devilspinkick
02-07-11, 04:07
Sayuri is really proud of the fact that she works in Cs.Scheiße! If this is the same Sayuri that used to work in MC then that puts me in a dilemma. One of my Top 10 sessions at my least favorite Termas. Wouldn't mind touching base with her again but really don't care for Centaurus with their ridiculous prices & average women. Hell. Maybe I'll just pay the minimal entrance fee and see if I run into her, if not then I'll beat a hasty retreat. Reckon I need to check the "boca" first.
- DSK
Exec Talent
02-07-11, 07:31
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Okay, I know she's not, but has anyone seen her nude pics in W Magazine? See attached. I'd like to annoint her as an honorary Brasileira-any objections?
RodeoCan someone remind me again why anyone and I mean anyone should give a shit about her. Her talent is?
Poucolouco
02-07-11, 14:56
Today a huge fire struck Cidade do Samba causing extensive damage and destroying the sheds of Portela, Uniao the Ilha, Grande Rio, and Leisa. This will also destroy the dreams of thousands of people who worked on these displays and practiced alll year to participate in the parades.
http://oglobo.globo.com/carnaval2011/rio/mat/2011/02/07/grande-incendio-atinge-cidade-do-samba-na-gamboa-923746294.asp
Sexmachine1
02-07-11, 16:45
We got together around noon to go to the beach. We called a few girls to see if anybody's interested in going with us but nothing materialized. What a surprise! JC likes the beach in Barra. He's been going there for years. So we took a cab to go there. R$35 fare and about 15 min. Ride. Was this beach ever busy. Mostly locals and they had some nice music going, people playing volleyball or other games. Lots of good looking girls in bikinis. JC took a lot of pics and even made a few short videos on his phone. We rented chairs, had a few drinks, relaxed and just ass-watched for a few hours. Food was good as well. This little kid no more than 10 yr. Old took care of us in supplying chairs, food, drinks etc. Right where we were and checked with us every half hour if we needed anything. We were there until around 5 Pm and decided to head back to our hotels, rest for an hour and meet at MC around 7 PM.
I got there right on the clock and JC joined a few minutes later. It was extremely busy. For a few minutes, you could not even walk in there. Lots of guys but still a lot more girls. I found out later from a girl that the Management wants all the girls to be present on Saturdays. They work 6 days but can´t get the day off on Saturday. So if you want to see all the girls, this is the best day. R$ 180 fine if they miss a day of work. They also pay R$ 180 a week to the Management which covers monthly check ups, pills, lingerie etc. It also covers their doctor visits whenever they want. We started talking to some brazilian guys while checking out the scene. They bought us a couple of drinks and we reciprocated later. Nice guys, regulars there for many years with 2-3 visits every week but take the girl like once a week. It didn´t take us long to find our girls. Every single girl was dancing and this is the most girls I´ve ever seen in MC. Electric atmosphere. My girl spoke good english But JC`s girl didn´t. So I was translating as much as possible while having good time with my girl. Later on we both had good sessions. We met downstairs and it had slowed down a lot in Boite. Our girls joined us. Mine sat for about an hour and talked a lot about politics, religion and whatever else. Smart girl. Knows a lot about the world and good personality. It was getting to be around midnight. So, we decided to leave, change and meet in my hotel to go to Balcony.
Balcony was pretty busy as usual. A guy parked his truck selling beers, drinks, water etc. around the corner and a lot of people were walking over to buy a R$2.50 beer there and not buying at Balcony for R$ 6.00 or more. But they were all drinking while standing in front of Balcony. I don´t think they have a way to stop that. We followed suit and bought some cheap beers. JC met his girl from previous night and today she offered to go for R$150. She said many times that she doesn´t go for less than R$ 250 or R$300 with anyone else but for him, only R$ 150. JC couldn´t refuse that. He asked me if he could take her to my hotel room, save R$50 for the Motel and be at a nicer place than Lido. I said OK. I don´t mind. At Hotel Atlantico, if you walk to the elevator with no eye contact and pretending to know the place, they never stop you. JC just walked to my room and nobody stopped him. He was back at Balcony in about 1.5 hrs. with a huge smile on his face and apologized for having made a lot of mess in the bathroom. No problem. Meanwhile, I had selected a girl but by the time JC came back, I had lost interest in her and told her that it will have to be another day. If JC wasn´t using my room, I probably would have left earlier with her. Oh well, What are friends for? There is always tomorrow. We decided to take a cab back with plans to go to Solarium tomorrow.
Today a huge fire struck Cidade do Samba causing extensive damage and destroying the sheds of Portela, Uniao the Ilha, Grande Rio, and Leisa. This will also destroy the dreams of thousands of people who worked on these displays and practiced alll year to participate in the parades.
http://oglobo.globo.com/carnaval2011/rio/mat/2011/02/07/grande-incendio-atinge-cidade-do-samba-na-gamboa-923746294.aspThat is really bad news. Only 1 month to carnaval, hence the big samba schools will struggle now to get their floats ready in time. These guys spend millions to get their floats ready, hence big big set back. Very sad!
Can someone remind me again why anyone and I mean anyone should give a shit about her. Her talent is?Actually, quite appropriate for this forum, her talent that made her famous was getting fucked On camera. She is talentless-you're right. Though I heard her on an interview recently say that her talent was marketing-which I don't think anyone can argue with. This was the same interview where she said she was in tears when she first saw the photos from W Magazine because she was told they would be artistic and strategically cover her private parts. Of course, I haven't heard anything about a lawsuit or anything. Seems like another good marketing move. Didn't make me go buy W. Magazine, but I immediately Googled the pics of her online. Either way, I think its easy to see why her body is in such high demand. I would do terrible things to that ass. Plus she's cute and got a nice rack!
Rodeo
Sexmachine1
02-07-11, 18:16
JC and I met up around noon to go the beach again but didn't want to go too far so we headed to Ipanema beach. Pretty normal beach. Not as many good looking girls as Barra so we didn't stay too long, had a nice meal and planned to hook up at 5 PM to go to Solarium.
We got to Solarium around 5:30 and man, was it ever slow. Only 10 girls and 2 other guys. We had a couple of beers. I talked to a nice blonde, the only girl I liked but didn't find chemistry between us. We found out from another girl that Sunday is not a good day to go there as more than half of the girls don't come to work. A brazilian guy confirmed this to JC while out smoking. Few more girls walked in but nothing we really liked, so we decided to come back another day and went to MC.
We got to Monte carlo around 8 PM and it was no better than Solarium. I hate Sundays in Rio. Each had a beer. Our girls from yesterday were working. Both said Hello, and JCs girl left right away. My girl sat down with us to talk since there was on one else around. A couple of guys walked in so she got up, danced in front of them for a few minutes but they didn't show any interest so she came back and sat with us. She said that she might go to Balcony later on with her friends. She is not supposed go there because management of Monte Carlo doesn't like the staff or girls to go to any other place. It was getting close to 10 Pm and JC didn't want to stay there. Also, he had to make some calls back home so we left. He went to his hotel and I went ot Luomo to see if I can save the day.
I got to Luomo just after 10 and it was better than MC or Solarium. Atleast 25-30 girls and 4-5 guys. I know most of the girls there and a Lot of them came over. Most of the girls didn´t session today because of very few customers. Or so I was told by a few girls. Natalie came over but I wasn´t interested in her. While chatting with her, I saw a cute looking girl I had seen before but never talked to, Natalie called her right away and introduced her to me as Bruna, her room mate. Bruna sat on the other side and both of them had their hands inside my robe. There was something about Bruna I didn´t like so I decided against her. I wanted to session soon because they close at midnight. I finally saw another girl I liked, waived her over and she was very nice to talk to so I decided to take her. Pretty good session, not a memorable one but still very good. By the time. we came back out, It was midnight, Everybody had left and all the lights had been turned off. I quickly changed, paid and got to my hotel.
There were only 15 minutes left before JC was supposed to meet me in the lobby. So I went to my room, put fresh clothes on and we walked to balcony. It is only 15 min. walk. We walked around there for an hour or so. JCs girl was there but he didn´t want to go with her 3 nights in a row. Beer guy wasn´t there today. Talked to some girls and a TV. He/she was very interested in us but we very politely declined the advances. Offered to buy us beer. We declined that as well. Then, I saw that girl from MC with her friend. Her friend Amanda was the rudest and most obnoxious person I´d ever met in Rio. We didn´t get along at all. Amanda then asked me to buy her a beer which I refused. She got pissed even more. So I told my girl that either Amanda goes or I walk. Needless to say, She said something to Amanda and amanda walked away in disgust, much to my delight. Now we were alone, so we talked, listened to the music and decided to go to Dolce vita. Guys pay R$20 entrance but girls don´t pay. But if you walk in with a girl, you have to pay for both. She told me that before so we both seperated at the front door and met back up upstairs. There was no one upstairs. Spent about an hour and we came to my hotel. Nice sex and then she asked me if I wanted her to stay the night or if I would be more comfortable sleeping alone. I didn´t really want her there so I asked her nicely to leave. She got dressed and I gave her R$200 which she discreetly counted and left. It was after 5 in the morning so I went to bed right away.
Sexmachine1
02-07-11, 18:52
Scheiße! If this is the same Sayuri that used to work in MC then that puts me in a dilemma. One of my Top 10 sessions at my least favorite Termas. Wouldn't mind touching base with her again but really don't care for Centaurus with their ridiculous prices & average women. Hell. Maybe I'll just pay the minimal entrance fee and see if I run into her, if not then I'll beat a hasty retreat. Reckon I need to check the "boca" first.
- DSKPM me if you are interested in her phone no. She is too professional to mind if I passed her no. Along.
SM1
Poucolouco
02-07-11, 19:46
That is really bad news. Only 1 month to carnaval, hence the big samba schools will struggle now to get their floats ready in time. These guys spend millions to get their floats ready, hence big big set back. Very sad!The fire destroyed more than the floats. Thousands of their costumes (fantasias) were destroyed as well. This is devastating for the four schools affected.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2011/2/carnavalesco_renato_lage_sugere_que_jurados_nao_avaliem_as_escolas_142629.html
Devilspinkick
02-07-11, 20:37
PM me if you are interested in her phone no. She is too professional to mind if I passed her # along.
SM1Sure, I'll send a qiuck PM. Would prefer to give her a call rather than go to the tourist trap of Centaurus or the freak show that is Balcony. The only caveat is that she may not remember me since it has been more than a year since I've seen her. However, since she's a hardened pro it may not matter = all the better.
- DSK
That is really bad news. Only 1 month to carnaval, hence the big samba schools will struggle now to get their floats ready in time. These guys spend millions to get their floats ready, hence big big set back. Very sad!That is terrible news! I have a friend who busted her ass for 3 months to get into top shape so she could dance for Grande Rio! I just called her house but she didn't answer, I am sure she is devastated.
BootyTapper
02-08-11, 02:29
The fire destroyed more than the floats. Thousands of their costumes (fantasias) were destroyed as well. This is devastating for the four schools affected.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2011/2/carnavalesco_renato_lage_sugere_que_jurados_nao_avaliem_as_escolas_142629.htmlI just saw it on Globo News and felt so bad for them. I just want to see how they will adjust the Carnaval schedule now its 4 less schools in the Sambadrome.
Sure, I'll send a qiuck PM. Would prefer to give her a call rather than go to the tourist trap of Centaurus or the freak show that is Balcony. The only caveat is that she may not remember me since it has been more than a year since I've seen her. However, since she's a hardened pro it may not matter = all the better.
- DSKLet me know if she gives you a better afternoon price than the cost of one hour in Centaraus! She was damn near giddy when talking about how she gets an extra 200r for an hour programma versus a 40 minute programma! Imagine that. 200 fucking reais for a lousy 20 minutes!
I just saw it on Globo News and felt so bad for them. I just want to see how they will adjust the Carnaval schedule now its 4 less schools in the Sambadrome.They will still compete, apparently they will have something in time, however it will be very simple compared to what they had.
Devilspinkick
02-08-11, 19:11
Let me know if she gives you a better afternoon price than the cost of one hour in Centaraus! 200 fucking reais for a lousy 20 minutes!
We'll see how it goes. I am generous to ladies that I like. But at the same time I'm not a damn fool either. She has the body-type that I like and she's an energizer bunny in the sack; but I've been with plenty hot dames that were great also. Still thinking about checking out Centaurus just for shits and giggles. It has been a couple of years since I've gone in the place.
Just arrived in Rio today. Pretty darn hot down here for me since I'm used to the winter climate in the ol' USA. I'm sure jet-lag will hit me before the night is over but there's no time to sleep now. Reckon I'll down some cafi-aspirina with some Red Bull and get to work.
- DSK
After Euro100 mentioned that he has GDP's come over for free I had a good think about this occurrence and decided to put my 2 cents worth down on paper.
It is quite common to have GDP's come over and stay for free. In fact if I, or pretty much any one I know, bangs the same girl more than a few times, there will normally be an offer by the girl to come over and stay. The first few encounters may be paid for (or may not) , then as some sort of relationship builds they tend to stay for free. This kind of thing would be unheard of in most western countries, but in Rio it is kind of normal.
Why do they do it? Who knows what really goes on inside a GDP's head but my thoughts are as follows.
*Most GDP's come from poor backgrounds, really poor! Until you actually go out and see where they tend to live, you really can't imagine how basic their living conditions are. Hence a chance to 'hang out' with someone that has a nice bed or can maybe take them out to dinner or even provide a place close to the beach is appealing. Even the girls that live in Copacabana tend to live in very crappy apartments, often 4 per room, hence a night away from this is appealing. The illusion of spending time with someone from a 'higher social status', tends to have some draw.
*Of course if a girl builds a relationship there is a chance for marriage etc. This goes with out saying.
*Brazilians tend to be very family orientated people that are used to being around a lot of people all the time. Hence when they are working, they can be very lonely, and probably prefer not to sleep alone. They also do not like to sleep alone for security reasons, living in a favela or the baixada is not the thing a single women would do alone.
Sexo.
One thing that constantly amazes me is when a GDP comes over, usually after a hard days or nights work, they still want to fuck like the energizer bunny. I have often asked them how they do this and I generally get the answer 'it is different with someone I like'. Pretty much every girl I have had over insists on a long session at night then another quickie in the morning- just amazing to me.
Freebies from GDPs are very common. Of course what you have, whether it be looks, youth, game, or cash will increase your chances or frequency of visits. The length of your stay in Rio is also important. If you are here for a few days it will be tough to pull this off, but not impossible. If you are here for a few weeks or months, absolute no brainer, particularly if you give off the impression that you will return to Rio soon. If you live in Rio, then it would be uncommon for GDP's to not come over for free. In fact when you live in Rio, getting rid of them is the hardest thing.
Just my 2 centavos!
After Euro100 mentioned that he has GDP's come over for free I had a good think about this occurrence and decided to put my 2 cents worth down on paper.
It is quite common to have GDP's come over and stay for free. In fact if I, or pretty much any one I know, bangs the same girl more than a few times, there will normally be an offer by the girl to come over and stay. The first few encounters may be paid for (or may not) , then as some sort of relationship builds they tend to stay for free. This kind of thing would be unheard of in most western countries, but in Rio it is kind of normal.
Why do they do it? Who knows what really goes on inside a GDP's head but my thoughts are as follows.
*Most GDP's come from poor backgrounds, really poor! Until you actually go out and see where they tend to live, you really can't imagine how basic their living conditions are. Hence a chance to 'hang out' with someone that has a nice bed or can maybe take them out to dinner or even provide a place close to the beach is appealing. Even the girls that live in Copacabana tend to live in very crappy apartments, often 4 per room, hence a night away from this is appealing. The illusion of spending time with someone from a 'higher social status', tends to have some draw.
*Of course if a girl builds a relationship there is a chance for marriage etc. This goes with out saying.
*Brazilians tend to be very family orientated people that are used to being around a lot of people all the time. Hence when they are working, they can be very lonely, and probably prefer not to sleep alone. They also do not like to sleep alone for security reasons, living in a favela or the baixada is not the thing a single women would do alone.
Sexo.
One thing that constantly amazes me is when a GDP comes over, usually after a hard days or nights work, they still want to fuck like the energizer bunny. I have often asked them how they do this and I generally get the answer 'it is different with someone I like'. Pretty much every girl I have had over insists on a long session at night then another quickie in the morning- just amazing to me.
Freebies from GDPs are very common. Of course what you have, whether it be looks, youth, game, or cash will increase your chances or frequency of visits. The length of your stay in Rio is also important. If you are here for a few days it will be tough to pull this off, but not impossible. If you are here for a few weeks or months, absolute no brainer, particularly if you give off the impression that you will return to Rio soon. If you live in Rio, then it would be uncommon for GDP's to not come over for free. In fact when you live in Rio, getting rid of them is the hardest thing.
Just my 2 centavos! Phhsssssssssttttt. I can just hear egos all over this board deflating as they read this. Well reasoned B. B.
Phhsssssssssttttt. I can just hear egos all over this board deflating as they read this. Well reasoned B. B.I love your quote Riofan6. Remains me of the old days!
Thanks for all the information, my trip was great.
Exec Talent
02-08-11, 23:35
In fact when you live in Rio, getting rid of them is the hardest thing.There's the rub.
After Euro100 mentioned that he has GDP's come over for free I had a good think about this occurrence and decided to put my 2 cents worth down on paper.
It is quite common to have GDP's come over and stay for free. In fact if I, or pretty much any one I know, bangs the same girl more than a few times, there will normally be an offer by the girl to come over and stay. The first few encounters may be paid for (or may not) , then as some sort of relationship builds they tend to stay for free. This kind of thing would be unheard of in most western countries, but in Rio it is kind of normal.Well ladies and gents (LOL, there could be a few ladies reading) this is my final update on my 5th trip to Rio as I'm writing from the comfort of my home back in the states. I'd like to thank Christo for helping me make it out alive (barely). And the subject above is the reason for my trouble at the end.
Long story short, I do NOT recommend letting any GDP in Rio think you're her girlfriend and stop asking for dinhero. She will (1) not let you be with another GDP the rest of your trip, (2) find out if you are with another freelance GDP within 5 minutes to 1 hour, (3) threaten to kill you or chop off your "Peru" which is even worse than death, (4) attempt to extort you for money if you tell her to leave your apartment after an argument, (5) stalk you outside and / or inside your apartment complex at all hours of the day and night, and (6) make your life a living hell until you leave. And those were not multiple choice options, she will attempt to complete steps (1) thru (6) completely, LOL! That was not only my experience the last week of my trip, but I was also warned by some of my Rio amigos that many Gringos fall into this GDP trap and go through the same pain and suffering when they try to end the relationship.
Heed this advice."You pay the girls to leave, not to come over!". This was repeated to me time and time again.
Long story short, I do NOT recommend letting any GDP in Rio think you're her girlfriend and stop asking for dinhero. She will (1) not let you be with another GDP the rest of your trip, (2) find out if you are with another freelance GDP within 5 minutes to 1 hour, (3) threaten to kill you or chop off your "Peru" which is even worse than death, (4) attempt to extort you for money if you tell her to leave your apartment after an argument, (5) stalk you outside and / or inside your apartment complex at all hours of the day and night, and (6) make your life a living hell until you leave. And those were not multiple choice options, she will attempt to complete steps (1) thru (6) completely, LOL! That was not only my experience the last week of my trip, but I was also warned by some of my Rio amigos that many Gringos fall into this GDP trap and go through the same pain and suffering when they try to end the relationship.
Heed this advice."You pay the girls to leave, not to come over!". This was repeated to me time and time again. I am thinking it is even more important to screen a potential freebie as oppossed to just one timer. You need strict rules and strategies to be put in place. Ground rules are very important because the problems listed above will come up if not planned for. Some girls will be quite happy to come over even if they know you are banging other girls, you need to be descret about it of course and not just go and bang their best friends and think you can get away with it. Basically you can find a cool chic that won't ask too many questions and as long as you avoid the place she works, you can have a decent few months together before you start "drifting apart".
Any type of relationship is possible in Rio, but you do need to think about what you are doing and plan it out!
I am thinking it is even more important to screen a potential freebie as oppossed to just one timer. You need strict rules and strategies to be put in place. Ground rules are very important because the problems listed above will come up if not planned for. Some girls will be quite happy to come over even if they know you are banging other girls, you need to be descret about it of course and not just go and bang their best friends and think you can get away with it. Basically you can find a cool chic that won't ask too many questions and as long as you avoid the place she works, you can have a decent few months together before you start "drifting apart".
Any type of relationship is possible in Rio, but you do need to think about what you are doing and plan it out!I agree 100 percent. I knew this GDP since my last trip when I 'dated' her for two months on and off without any major incident. Some nights I had another girl, or girls, over. She'd stop by unannounced and I'd tell her politely to leave because I had company, and she did. But this trip I tried to set fairer ground rules when I arrived because we stayed in touch constantly via email and occasionally via phone while I was here in the states. I told her that if she continued to work then I would continue to see other girls, but would be as discrete as possible about it. I even offered to pay her rent and everything else (like a good boyfriend) if she stopped working so that I wouldn't have to see anyone else. But she couldn't help herself and went out and worked afternoons when she told me she was going back to her apartment to sleep and / or see her friends. How did I find out? From HER friends!
So we began a mean game of touché that she ultimately couldn't play. I hooked up with some very fine Filet Mignon's that were eager to take her place. I actually had two new g / f's this trip that moved in with me and she went nuts. To the point she brought four policeman to my apt. One night after telling them I hit her, kicked her out, and owed her money. It's too bad I recorded her one night on my compact video cam threatening to tell the police I hit her if I kicked her out. So when I got to the station I showed them the video and they promptly let me go (and they even said to me,"this is Rio man, why are you sticking with one girl"?) LOL!
Well after that it was game on with this puta, so I hooked up with one of her so called 'best' friends (as you warned above) that same night. I ran into the friend by accident though (didn't have her phone #) , told her the story, and she was all about relieving my stress. These GDP's will tell you everyone is their best friend so you don't hook up with them. I even told the friend, please wait until I leave next week before you tell her we did the deed, because I knew she couldn't wait to tell her. But she spilled the beans as soon as she could and 'my girl' went mental. Showed up at my apartment again (the portiero let her up because she was probably F*ing him too) and proceeded to try to kick in my apt. Door while I was with a 3rd night girl that I was really starting to like. Uh oh, time to leave Rio, and fast!
I don't want to sound like I'm complaining here, this 5th trip was really entertaining and I've got stories of a lifetime to tell, and a couple of scars to remind me in case I forget! But the freelance GDP's have become way too aggressive, controlling, and freakish now. And that's not just IMHO, a lot of repeat travelers I met concurred. Still, in the infamous words of Arnold,"I'll be back!" because I love living La Copa Louca.
The Philippines is next on my list though, followed by Colombia again. I'm going to make the rounds now, I'll never stay in one place for this long again.
Hi all,
Without browsing through 1000's of posts, anyone know where to go to get the best deals on a flight+hotel in Rio?
I don't want to spend more than $700-$800 on a flight since my total budget would be $2k.
I've been reviewing destinations such as Havana, Sosua DR, and now I'm also interested in Rio. I'll be making my choice at the end of March to leave mid-April.
Any advice is appreciated.
Exec Talent
02-10-11, 19:54
Hi all,
Without browsing through 1000's of posts, anyone know where to go to get the best deals on a flight+hotel in Rio?
I don't want to spend more than $700-$800 on a flight since my total budget would be $2k.
I've been reviewing destinations such as Havana, Sosua DR, and now I'm also interested in Rio. I'll be making my choice at the end of March to leave mid-April.
Any advice is appreciated. Rio is not cheap. Neither getting there nor staying there. Flights from most destinations are $1000+ and hotels are $100+ a day. With a $2K budget that doesn't leave you money for much else.
Rio is not cheap. Neither getting there nor staying there. Flights from most destinations are $1000+ and hotels are $100+ a day. With a $2K budget that doesn't leave you money for much else.Okay so with that in mind, how much would I need approximately to have a good time there?
I didn't save up for Rio this year as I was planning to go to a cheaper destination, but I have a feeling that after the World Cup, shit over there is going to get un-affordably expensive, which is why I either go this year, or the next.
Thanks bud.
Mr Enternational
02-12-11, 05:46
If you wait until after 10:00 to go to Rio Scenarium on Fridays and Saturdays you will end up in a line that goes on forever. There is no advantage to waiting until after 10:00 to go to Lapa.One of my wingmen who lives in Rio was telling me there was a codeword you could use to go to the front of the line at Rio Scenarium. I haven't been in so long that I forgot. I will have to check with him again on it.
Mr Enternational
02-12-11, 06:17
I am thinking it is even more important to screen a potential freebie as oppossed to just one timer. You need strict rules and strategies to be put in place. Ground rules are very important because the problems listed above will come up if not planned for.This is very important anywhere. You can not be afraid to put your foot down and establish your authority at the beginning of any relationship. The other day, here in Thailand I met a girl who is an interpreter for the military. Since the base is quite far away she brought her things to spend the night. The next day before she left for work she asked if she could leave her things. Negative! I told her to never leave her things anywhere because she did not know when or if she would ever get them again.
The next day she called about 40 times (literally) , sent many texts and emails. I did not answer her all that day. The next day I called her and said,"Look. You call a person one time. If they do not answer then you leave a message and wait for them to call you back. You do not call anyone that many times. Do you understand?" She apologized and now is trying to make an appointment to be graced with my presence. She asked if she could leave my Valentine's Day gift at the office in my apartment building and I told her no, and to just hold on to it until I see her.
Guys you have to draw boundaries at the very start in any type of relationship. Believe me, it is much easier to do it and get it over with. If you want to pussyfoot around the issues and play Mr. Nice Guy then you are asking for trouble later on and to be miserable as the relationship grows.
Hi all,
Without browsing through 1000's of posts, anyone know where to go to get the best deals on a flight+hotel in Rio?
I don't want to spend more than $700-$800 on a flight since my total budget would be $2k.
I've been reviewing destinations such as Havana, Sosua DR, and now I'm also interested in Rio. I'll be making my choice at the end of March to leave mid-April.
Any advice is appreciated.Here are the airfare costs I paid for my past 5 trips to Rio, all departing JFK and arriving in GIG.
First trip cost $802 via TAM Airlines booked within 3 weeks of a September departure.
Second trip cost $919 via AA (American Airlines) booked within 2 months of a March departure.
Third trip cost $61 (Taxes only!) via AA booked with 40K MILE REWARDS within 4 months of a September departure.
Fourth trip cost $56 (Taxes only!) via AA booked with 60K MILE REWARDS within 2 months of a December departure. And I was also able to extend the trip another month (thru Carnaval no less) for $0 because because the flight was on MILE REWARDS. Otherwise I would have had to pay a $200 change fee.
Fifth trip (just returned from last week) cost $61 via AA booked with 50K MILE REWARDS within 5 months of an October departure. I was also able to change the departure date twice for $0 because the flight was on MILE REWARDS.
MILE REWARDS are your best deal for flying ANYWHERE in the World for cheap and they are easy to get! A friend turned me onto them after my first trip to Rio and, with a little reluctance (thinking the deals would be a time consuming pain in the butt) , I discovered they were easy to get, and most satisfying (just like GDP's)!
Simply go to.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milesbuzz-370/
And read the forum posts. If American Airlines is a convenient carrier for you, like it is for me, here's a recent thread with some 75k to 100k bonus point offers.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milesbuzz/1110784-american-airlines-card-75-000-sign-up-bonus-274.html
A couple of years ago Citibank was offering 25 to 30k American Airlines bonus miles when you signed up for their Visa, Mastercard, or Amex personal cards, plus Visa or Mastercard Business cards, and spent $750 within the first 4 months. So I signed up for 5 different cards (about 3-4 months apart) and put my utility bills and other common big expenses (including business purchases) on the cards, paid them off immediately (so I wouldn't incur interest fees) , received more than 125k bonus miles, and then promptly closed out the cards (you don't lose the bonus miles, they accrue and stay in your AA Advantage account). I subsequently signed up for a TD Ameritrade account that gave me 15k miles and a Citibank checking account that gave me 20k miles. This is how I flew to Rio my last three trips for free and only paid the airport tax ($56 to $61)! Plus I had tickets that were so flexible I could extend my departure date up to 4-5 months at no extra charge (an additional $200 value right there).
If you travel to Rio during High Season (January to March) you'll eat up about 30k miles each way if you book a few months in advance. If you wait until the last few weeks or days to book, seats will cost more bonus miles (up to 60k each way) so I always book well in advance to spend the least amount of bonus miles. That's why I was able to leave for 20k miles and return for 30k during high season. But if you book a trip in late March or September (a nice time to see Rio because there are less tourists and the GDP's are cheaper too) you can fly for 20k miles each way.
BONUS MILES are the only way to travel, you just have to do a little legwork in the beginning and jump on the right deals when they're hot. And always remember to close out your card after the miles hit your account so you do not incur the credit card renewal fee (which is waived the first year) , that's another key. Also, after you close out all your cards with one bank (e. G. Citibank) you can re-apply for new bonus miles cards a year later, which is what I'm doing now.
If you're planning to visit Rio ASAP and can't wait for Bonus Miles (FYI: they usually only take a month to hit your account after you fulfill the offer) then the cheapest travel agent in the United States to fly to Rio is.
http://www.bacctravel.com/
Which has done airfare from most major cities for as low as $400 to $500 outside of the high season (which is now).
This is very important anywhere. You can not be afraid to put your foot down and establish your authority at the beginning of any relationship. The other day, here in Thailand I met a girl who is an interpreter for the military. Since the base is quite far away she brought her things to spend the night. The next day before she left for work she asked if she could leave her things. Negative! I told her to never leave her things anywhere because she did not know when or if she would ever get them again.
The next day she called about 40 times (literally) , sent many texts and emails. I did not answer her all that day. The next day I called her and said,"Look. You call a person one time. If they do not answer then you leave a message and wait for them to call you back. You do not call anyone that many times. Do you understand?" She apologized and now is trying to make an appointment to be graced with my presence. She asked if she could leave my Valentine's Day gift at the office in my apartment building and I told her no, and to just hold on to it until I see her.
Guys you have to draw boundaries at the very start in any type of relationship. Believe me, it is much easier to do it and get it over with. If you want to pussyfoot around the issues and play Mr. Nice Guy then you are asking for trouble later on and to be miserable as the relationship grows.Now that is a WWF Smackdown right there! I heard the girls in S. East Asia were very clingy, and that sucks because I want to visit the Philippines next. I tried to put my foot down and 'establish authority' in Rio but I've come to the conclusion that it was ultimately the jealous doormen in my Apt. Building that fueled one girl's rage. They just got tired of seeing this Gringo live like a rock star and bring home some of their finest putas night after night. So they tipped off my first girl every chance they got and, combined with her desire to make "no mais festa pra daniel" (as she phrased it) , the stalking and harassment commenced during my final week and never ceased.
I'm going to rent different hotel suites in The Philippines because my friend told me the staff are usually very good at keeping the 'uninvited' away. Still, I worry what happens when I walk out on the street. Is someone stalking me? Maybe it's time to bring some disguises. Fake mustache, wigs, glasses. Not sure how that will go over through customs though, LOL.
HungryStud101
02-12-11, 17:24
JC and I met up around noon to go the beach again but didn't want to go too far so we headed to Ipanema beach. Pretty normal beach. Not as many good looking girls as Barra so we didn't stay too long, had a nice meal and planned to hook up at 5 PM to go to Solarium.
We got to Solarium around 5:30 and man, was it ever slow.Sexmachine. Great reporting.
I am spending a Saturday and Sunday night in Rio in a few weeks. What do you suggest for these slow Sundays? This is my second trip and I will hit a Termus on Saturday (I have only been to Centarus but I hear there were better deals at the others) probably 4x4 or Solurium. Aslo I am hearing that Mongers are having luck sneaking girls into the Marriot on cobacabana so I was thinking I may even go to the Balcony and get a girl for the night?
What are your suggestions?
MILE REWARDS are your best deal for flying ANYWHERE in the World for cheap and they are easy to get! A friend turned me onto them after my first trip to Rio and, with a little reluctance (thinking the deals would be a time consuming pain in the butt) , I discovered they were easy to get, and most satisfying (just like GDP's)!
BONUS MILES are the only way to travel, you just have to do a little legwork in the beginning and jump on the right deals when they're hot. And always remember to close out your card after the miles hit your account so you do not incur the credit card renewal fee (which is waived the first year) , that's another key. Also, after you close out all your cards with one bank (e. G. Citibank) you can re-apply for new bonus miles cards a year later, which is what I'm doing now. I totally agree! I for one use travels to DR, Colombia and Panama (all cheap from Miami) to build up miles throughout the year to get me to Rio. Its good for just doing once a year trips to Brazil, but, capitalizing on bonus points would be even better.
Rodeo
BONUS MILES are the only way to travel, you just have to do a little legwork in the beginning and jump on the right deals when they're hot.).Thanks for the great info on Frequent Flyer Miles. Definitely more money of for the honeys!
This discussion about miles and traveling should probably be in a different section.
I agree with using the miles and have done but only for upgrades. The way miles usage is described below, you usually have to really plan ahead and have to live in an airport hub.
The strategy to open and close credit cards describe by Daniel69 may work for some, but it can have significant down side on your credit history and your ability to borrow when you really have to. Closing a card does not erase it from the credit history, but in fact may be considered a sign of 'increased risk'.
I don't want to pretend like anyone's travel agent or financial advisor, so I'll stop here and hopefuly someone knows how to move this to the Travel section.
Sexmachine. Great reporting.
I am spending a Saturday and Sunday night in Rio in a few weeks. What do you suggest for these slow Sundays? This is my second trip and I will hit a Termus on Saturday (I have only been to Centarus but I hear there were better deals at the others) probably 4x4 or Solurium. Aslo I am hearing that Mongers are having luck sneaking girls into the Marriot on cobacabana so I was thinking I may even go to the Balcony and get a girl for the night?
What are your suggestions? 4x4 is not open on the weekend. In Copa, Monte Carlo and Luomo are open.
Sexmachine. Great reporting.
I am spending a Saturday and Sunday night in Rio in a few weeks. What do you suggest for these slow Sundays? This is my second trip and I will hit a Termus on Saturday (I have only been to Centarus but I hear there were better deals at the others) probably 4x4 or Solurium. Aslo I am hearing that Mongers are having luck sneaking girls into the Marriot on cobacabana so I was thinking I may even go to the Balcony and get a girl for the night?
What are your suggestions? If you try to bring a real skanky girl from Balcony into the Marriot, they probably will stop her and possibly not let her in. In my experience, when staying there discretion was the key. You could walk a girl in as long as she appeared to be your girlfriend.. Pretty hard to pass off a real hardcore balcony chic as your girlfriend. Best to take a balcony girl to a motel close by.
You could always go to Luomo or Monte Carlo and then invite one of the girls to your place after. T girls tend to just look so much more respectable in street.
Member #3439
02-13-11, 17:58
Back in Rio. Here is a report on Friday night, or the latter part of it.
I arrived late from elsewhere in Brasil and had to start at 11 pm, later than usual. I stopped by Bar 22 to see if my BBFS girl, Gabrielle, from last June / July was still around. I walked in and checked the place out. Asked the manager about her since I didn't see here. I guess she is gone, so I was pretty bummed about that. The whole staff has changed there in the last 6 months. On the bright side, they have a new mama that wasn't there before, a better more friendly mama.
So I left there, walked to Ns Copa, and hopped the. 483 onibus. Ave. President Vargas / Saens Pena, to Centro. Centro is where I feel most at home, and my favorite place to hang out at night (for cheap) is Club Florida at Praca Maua. Most people know the place but it's seldom reported here. You get blasting samba and funk music, girls dancing, etc. You can feel them up, get to know them (if you can yell over the funk) , etc. The difference is that the girls are much better looking than the typical dive bar. R10 entrada, R7 cervejas, you get a card and you incidentals are charged to that, payment due at the desk when you leave. Girls are paid for in cash at the desk. It really gets started abut 1 AM. Prices have gone up since last time I was there in June, cerveja went from R6 to R7. Smoking is still allowed, but for that matter pretty much anything is allowed in there. The girls are highly variable in services, in my experience. The group working there now seems more hardcore than in June, perhaps due to more guys being in the place.
Unfortunately, the guy / garota ratio is way up versus June. There are several 9's in the place, but it ranges down to 4. All the girls are different now except Nicole. I drank about 4 cervejas and approached Nicole. I remembered her from June due to her pretty face + awesome legs and ass, but unfortunate teeth alignment. We talked. She is nice but doesn't do BBBJ. R80/30 minutes for a girl of this quality is still good, especially when you are a puta addict coming off of 6 months of no putas. So we went. Started with some just okay DFK. I have a taste for pussy and asshole, so she was sitting on my face next. Very nice looking pussy and ass. Then 69. Let's say it's in the top 5 best CBJ I think I've had. We moved to doggystyle fuck and I pinned her arms back, which turned her on and made her decide to make use of the arm position to frig her clit until she was making some fairly entertaining guttural sounds. I flipped her over, ate her pussy again, and took her mish. Then reverse cowgirl, and then some weird position that seemed right at the time. It ended up with her sitting on my face while I ate her ass and she jerked me off on her tits, then DFK while I was rubbing the jizz remains all over her wherever I could get it. Must be instinct.
We left the cabine and I went back down to the boite and drank quite a bit of beer while just enjoying the music. A Rio cop came in. In uniform. He was BS'ing with one of the guys that works there. Many people were smoking and he didn't say anthing. Just walked through looking at the girls and went to the back of the boite, a separate exit I guess. So this tells me the ability to smoke in Florida will continue.
Lastlly, I walked to Presidente Vargas, crossed to the other side and took the next bus that said Copa. 3:30 AM. Not a bad start to the trip. I hope for the best, though.
Member #3439
02-13-11, 18:21
this is a report on last night.
i rode the metro to copa, arriving about 10 pm. i went by miami peep to check that out, but it was closed. then i rounded the corner to bar 22 to check there. the sign on the wall behind the counter says r15 for 3 cervejas. this is the entrada. it was r12 not too long ago but people were being asked to pay more. now it's r15 for everyone, it is written. there was a crowd of rowdy americans in the place who couldn't speak any porto, and it took 10 minutes for me to get into the bar while i waited for them to figure out their billing dispute.
the selection at 22 is not so great. it wasn't great before but now it's worse. i decided to go ahead and take one anyway. they quoted r100/30 but i negotiated the girl and mama down to r90. the girl was raissa, a slim black one with lots of energy. she was good, gave bbbj and everything but no cim finish. we ran until the 30 minutes was out, but i didn't pop. she wanted a tip, which i didn't give. then she wanted to come back to my hotel, but i didn't feel compelled so i left there.
next i rode the bus to pres. vargas and walked to bar florida at praca maua. i sat there drinking skol and watching people for about 2 hours, trying to figure out which were gp's and which were normal. oddly, the normal girls at praca maua look more like hos than the gp's do. it's apparently the place for locals to hang out after they leave lapa, everyone seemed to be coming from there. after 2 hours, i was walking about and passed a girl who i recongized by the way she walked. it was bella, the barking ass sucking nasty girl that i reported sessioning twice inside club florida back in june. i posted pics back then. i did a check to make sure it was her, and yelled at her, when she turned around. bam, it was her. i took her to the love motel next door r100/1 hr. nasty, nasty, nasty girl. sloppy bbbj, rimming me, sucking on my ass and licking my balls at high speed. then fucking in several positions. then she was face down on the bed and i had her arms pinned down and was pulling her hair, really giving abuse. she loves that kind of stuff. it was a good session, ended with me shooting on her face.
tonight, sunday night is such a slow night. i'm thinking luomo and then vm for lack of anything better to do. tomorrow centro 'opens' back up and hopefully i'll have some pics worth posting,
HungryStud101
02-14-11, 05:22
If you try to bring a real skanky girl from Balcony into the Marriot, they probably will stop her and possibly not let her in. In my experience, when staying there discretion was the key. You could walk a girl in as long as she appeared to be your girlfriend. Pretty hard to pass off a real hardcore balcony chic as your girlfriend. Best to take a balcony girl to a motel close by.
You could always go to Luomo or Monte Carlo and then invite one of the girls to your place after. T girls tend to just look so much more respectable in street.Thanks Bubba. MC it is Saturday and Luomo Sunday night. This is the plan. Any idea how much the cab ride is from the Marriot? Any advice about how to get a girl from the club to go out to eat and come how with you? This would be fun.
Member #3439
02-14-11, 12:48
Here what transpired last night and this morning up to about 2 hours ago: like As mentioned before, I tend to hit Luomos on Sunday because most other things are dead tben. I left Centro and headed for Copa, arriving at Luomo at about 6:30. As discussed by others, if you get there before 7 the R70 entrada is halved. So 40 minutes in cabine then works out to 270+35= R315. I sat at to the bar for about an hour chilling, then was approached by Bella, one of the mullatas there. She told me that she had just come back to work at Luomo a week ago. I digged deeper because I always wonder what GP's do after they get off the program. She claims she quit Luomo to be a flight attendant, something about Toronto, etc. I'm not really buying it due to her poor English skills. So enoug with the talk, and we started making out at the bar. Then I then noticed that she has some funky stuff going on with her skin like localized bumpy rashes on her chest and wide swathes elsewhere. At this point I decided I didn't want eczema or whatever that was, so was getting ready to shake her. But then she calls over another mullata, who said her name was Mambu or something. Nice girl with a cute face. I'm not really into dark girls, but in Rio I end up doing a lot of them and this was going to be one. So I negotiated with her for the usual BBBJ, pics, etc. She claimed she would do BBBJ and I could fuck her anal, but said that pictures were prohibited at Luomo (huh?). I thought, whatever, I am a little sick of ruining moments to capture pics that I don't need anyway. So off we went.
We got to the cabine and were there about 10 minutes making out, until her pussy went from dry to nice and slippery. At this point I noticed her sneaking a condom off the table, and she swung around to sit on my face for 69. I understood that we was about to cheat on the BJ, so told her no condom for that. She didn't say anything, and I could tell she was doing the best possible get the thing on without me detecting it. Again I called her on it. But I did like her, so I decided to give it a spin. I got out from under and flipped her for mish, but I gave her a few pokes and then started remembering how in 2009 the same thing happened to me with the CBJ at Luomo, and how I'the sworn never to let that happen again at that price level. So I took the comdom off and layed down and asked for the BBBJ again, telling her that we had an agreeent in the boite. She said no, that's my friend Bella that does does that. Not happening. So I told her I needed another girl to do what she had promised to do, then put on my robe and went to the front desk. Just like I'the been advocating here before, we should politely not stand for these bait and switch acts at termas prices.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. At this point she called the manager out, the manager called the girl, then gave me the 2 following explanations for the broken agreeement, neither of which mentioned any prohibition on BBBJ in the casa.
1. I am an unsafe customer. I went down on her and that shows that I am unsafe. What? She sat on my face at one point.
2. She thinks something is the matter with my dick. I explained to the manager that it's a circumcision scar and if she would like to inspect she is welcome. I have paperwork to show that I am clean.
So all of this ended in me not popping at Luomo, but at least they only charged me for the time used. I was being polite but serious about ir, but apparently now I am a pariah at Luomo. . To be continued.
Member #3439
02-14-11, 12:50
when i left off, i was having a dispute over services at luomo. here is the continuation.
at this point i thought of going to vm, but it was 9:30 so i thought it was not worth the time. i decided to check out the freelance places. i typically don't cause i like casas, but i went to balcony. there were a lot of girls, maybe 100. people talk a lot of trash about the place, but you can get termas or better quality girls there if you look at little. they were quoting r500 to start. and that's st. i just walk away, it's insulting. i figured that since these girls are asking barbarella prices, i might as well go to barbella and check it out. some brasileiro colleagues prefer it to anyplace else. so i walked that way, to prado jr. la ciclionna (sic?) had 4 girls and was getting ready to close. nog café that christopherd talks about was closed when i arrived in the area. i went to barbarella, it was good entertainment. kind of a burlesque show intermittentlyand with at least one dancer constantly. i noted the dancers do not seem to be hawking the fork between dances. i think they just dance. and they have the kind of near perfect bodies that are seldom seen in rio, outside the tourism propaganda. they quoted me r70 entrada including 2 drinks, they charged me r60.
in barbarella i just sat there and let them come to me. most of the girls are older than the girls that work in termas or casas, but better looking so it's a tradeoff. one came to me and wanted r500 tln 'relaxation'. this is at 2 am. i said no, i like you, but that is more relaxation than i care to have right now. we went outside to smoke and she said, i like you so i make it 400. an hour later she came back and offered r250 for st at the love hotel and reminded me that i might go home without relaxation tonight, and i assured her it wouldn't happen. another girl told me r400 even near closing. i tried to spin it into a freebie by offering lunch and whatever she wants to go do, just for fun, then she said i must be drunk. i said no, what else to you have to do? anything? she said she makes custom dresses, that it's her job and working at barbarellas is her other job and she has to make money from sex. no sex without money. i said that i never mentioned sex, just lunch. i asked her if she has a boyfriend, and isn't that sex without money? she said no, she doesn't have one. i said why not, and then she said because she does programmas and if she has a boyfriend she can't do programmas. i said, what if he's is okay with your programmas. then she said no man is okay with programmas. funny. later, i got a couple more offer at the same prices r250 st – r400 tln, whatever tln at 3 am might be? one girl sat at the back all night and never approached anyone, i would later see her elsewhere. since i don't usually do freelance in rio, and don't know that scene, i was holding a faint glimmering hope for a mad dash for mongers, like closing time at blok m bars in jakarta when the prices drop 75-90% and the girls are actually grabbing mongers by the arm to retain them. those girls actually do arrive at the bars without fare to get home, and they need to score a monger to get a place to stay, food and a ride home. not so in rio, of course. at 3 am, all the girls got up and walked to the back, grabbed their ho purses and marched out in single file, then it was closed.
then i went back to balcony and was picked up by a loira that looked pretty much like the last 2 girls that i've sessioned at 4x4, only about 5 years older. she tried to get me to do tln for r250, then started making out with me there beside of balcony. i wasn't going for it, so she dropped to r200. i told her no, too much, i don't have that much on me. we end up at hotel lido and the charge for the girl was r100 with the understanding she was staying through the morning-time at least. we got the hotel, she was fairly drunk off 4 beers that someone else had bought for her before i got to balcony. inside lido, she said she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and ran to the bathroom. i went in after and stepped in something. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) wetted my sock. she had pissed on the floor a little. gps. anyway, not to let that stop me. we had a great session despite her intoxicaton. dfk, bbbj with style, fuck. then she wanted to go to sleep and pulled my arm around her. i had my atm card and camera with me, so i wasn't going to fall asleep and get robbed, otherwise i would have stayed. i just don't trust centam / southam girls at all. there are girls who will feign being asleep just to rip you off. in this case, i don't know. everytime i tried to slip away, groggily. 'nao, nao stay here with me. you wait, more sex in morning'. i tried to take a pic and she realized what was happening. nao, nao. i don't like photos. you pay me r15 for photos. gps. even when drunk and half asleep they never miss an opportunity to ping us for money. finally i left and walked down to ave atlanica to watch the sun rise. as i passed balcony, there were only 2 gp's. one passed out and the only other one was the girl that i had seen at barbarella much earlier. she recognized me and started waving at me, then got up and came after me. the desperation of a gp who hasn't scored a trick all night can be a beautiful thing, but i was tired anyway. i crossed ave atlantica to the beach and so she stopped and turned around because of the traffic. i looked back and saw her sit down, but then got up 30 seconds later and walked back toward ns copa. gave up. and so did i. back to centro to type this and then get some sleep.
Whiskey Lova
02-14-11, 16:23
when i left off, i was having a dispute over services at luomo. here is the continuation.
at this point i thought of going to vm, but it was 9:30 so i thought it was not worth the time. i decided to check out the freelance places. i typically don't cause i like casas, but i went to balcony. there were a lot of girls, maybe 100. people talk a lot of trash about the place, but you can get termas or better quality girls there if you look at little. they were quoting r500 to start. and that's st. i just walk away, it's insulting. i figured that since these girls are asking barbarella prices, i might as well go to barbella and check it out. some brasileiro colleagues prefer it to anyplace else. so i walked that way, to prado jr. la ciclionna (sic?) had 4 girls and was getting ready to close. nog café that christopherd talks about was closed when i arrived in the area. i went to barbarella, it was good entertainment. kind of a burlesque show intermittentlyand with at least one dancer constantly. i noted the dancers do not seem to be hawking the fork between dances. i think they just dance. and they have the kind of near perfect bodies that are seldom seen in rio, outside the tourism propaganda. they quoted me r70 entrada including 2 drinks, they charged me r60.
in barbarella i just sat there and let them come to me. most of the girls are older than the girls that work in termas or casas, but better looking so it's a tradeoff. one came to me and wanted r500 tln 'relaxation'. this is at 2 am. i said no, i like you, but that is more relaxation than i care to have right now. we went outside to smoke and she said, i like you so i make it 400. an hour later she came back and offered r250 for st at the love hotel and reminded me that i might go home without relaxation tonight, and i assured her it wouldn't happen. another girl told me r400 even near closing. i tried to spin it into a freebie by offering lunch and whatever she wants to go do, just for fun, then she said i must be drunk. i said no, what else to you have to do? anything? she said she makes custom dresses, that it's her job and working at barbarellas is her other job and she has to make money from sex. no sex without money. i said that i never mentioned sex, just lunch. i asked her if she has a boyfriend, and isn't that sex without money? she said no, she doesn't have one. i said why not, and then she said because she does programmas and if she has a boyfriend she can't do programmas. i said, what if he's is okay with your programmas. then she said no man is okay with programmas. funny. later, i got a couple more offer at the same prices r250 st – r400 tln, whatever tln at 3 am might be? one girl sat at the back all night and never approached anyone, i would later see her elsewhere. since i don't usually do freelance in rio, and don't know that scene, i was holding a faint glimmering hope for a mad dash for mongers, like closing time at blok m bars in jakarta when the prices drop 75-90% and the girls are actually grabbing mongers by the arm to retain them. those girls actually do arrive at the bars without fare to get home, and they need to score a monger to get a place to stay, food and a ride home. not so in rio, of course. at 3 am, all the girls got up and walked to the back, grabbed their ho purses and marched out in single file, then it was closed.
then i went back to balcony and was picked up by a loira that looked pretty much like the last 2 girls that i've sessioned at 4x4, only about 5 years older. she tried to get me to do tln for r250, then started making out with me there beside of balcony. i wasn't going for it, so she dropped to r200. i told her no, too much, i don't have that much on me. we end up at hotel lido and the charge for the girl was r100 with the understanding she was staying through the morning-time at least. we got the hotel, she was fairly drunk off 4 beers that someone else had bought for her before i got to balcony. inside lido, she said she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and ran to the bathroom. i went in after and stepped in something. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) wetted my sock. she had pissed on the floor a little. gps. anyway, not to let that stop me. we had a great session despite her intoxicaton. dfk, bbbj with style, fuck. then she wanted to go to sleep and pulled my arm around her. i had my atm card and camera with me, so i wasn't going to fall asleep and get robbed, otherwise i would have stayed. i just don't trust centam / southam girls at all. there are girls who will feign being asleep just to rip you off. in this case, i don't know. everytime i tried to slip away, groggily. 'nao, nao stay here with me. you wait, more sex in morning'. i tried to take a pic and she realized what was happening. nao, nao. i don't like photos. you pay me r15 for photos. gps. even when drunk and half asleep they never miss an opportunity to ping us for money. finally i left and walked down to ave atlanica to watch the sun rise. as i passed balcony, there were only 2 gp's. one passed out and the only other one was the girl that i had seen at barbarella much earlier. she recognized me and started waving at me, then got up and came after me. the desperation of a gp who hasn't scored a trick all night can be a beautiful thing, but i was tired anyway. i crossed ave atlantica to the beach and so she stopped and turned around because of the traffic. i looked back and saw her sit down, but then got up 30 seconds later and walked back toward ns copa. gave up. and so did i. back to centro to type this and then get some sleep. thanks for the reports, keep up the good work! congrats to getting a balcony bar girl to drop below the r200 level, i was under the impression that was the new price floor for tln action. surprised to see a barbarella chick at balcony bar, i guess the economic boom is doing more harm than good for the gp's
Nice reporting by Puta Playa.
One thing I have noticed in Brazil in my years living here. Complaints of any shape or form in any establishment are just a waste of time. The way they do business in Brazil is very inefficient and un customer friendly. What one would think is common sense in any other country is just not followed in Brazil.
Good reporting on prices as the time goes by during the night.
Thanks Bubba. MC it is Saturday and Luomo Sunday night. This is the plan. Any idea how much the cab ride is from the Marriot? Any advice about how to get a girl from the club to go out to eat and come how with you? This would be fun.MC & Luomo are both open 7 days a week now. Cab fare from the Marriot is like R$8. 00 or so. Go to my bubba report section and print a map and walk it. Probably 10 minutes walk to MC, maybe 15 to Loumo.
Getting a girl to come over after her shift has ended is not that hard, just a matter of coming up with a number. I am thinking R$200 would be a maximum, probably get it for slightly less if there is some sort of chemistry.
Getting a girl to go out with you for dinner is more of a logistical challenge. Basically a terma girl must work at least 5 days a week, maybe 6. Hence on her day off she may have family plans or whatever. For her to take the day off from work she will have to pay a fine to the Terma. Fines can be expensive, hence unless you want to spend up big it doesn't make much sense to pay her fine and pay her as well, could be R$400 +. You might get lucky in that a girl you like just happens to be free the night you want her but I would look for better options.
I went on Karlas website and they advertise R120 for 2 hours. Has anybody used this website and can you tell me if there is additional negotiations once the GDP arrives? Sounds real good at R120. Maybe too good. I'm thinking maybe the R120 is for their two hours time and anything additional is extra as negotiated. Anyone on the board who can answer this?
MCruddy
I went on Karlas website and they advertise R120 for 2 hours. Has anybody used this website and can you tell me if there is additional negotiations once the GDP arrives? Sounds real good at R120. Maybe too good. I'm thinking maybe the R120 is for their two hours time and anything additional is extra as negotiated. Anyone on the board who can answer this?
MCruddyKarlas has been around for ages. They have 2 offices. 1 in Flemengo and 1 in Tijuca. The 2 hours is indeed R$120 but yiu must pay taxi for the girl both ways. From Tijuca to Copacabana the cab fare is around R$25 each way, hence a 2 hour ride will cost all up R$120 + R$50=R$170 From Flemengo it is probably R$12 cheaper each way. Anal is included in the price no extras there. The only extras I believe they charge is for a "switching fee". A switching fee is when the girl bangs more than 1 guy, normally in a party type of a deal. The switching fee is R$50.
Like any escort agency these days photoshop is heavily used, hence you may not get exactly what appears in the photos. Out of a dozen or so girls at the Tijuca office there are at least 2 very appealing girls. I am not going to say their names because some things you need to keep to yourself and I think I give more than my fair share of info to this board.
Here what transpired last night and this morning up to about 2 hours ago: like As mentioned before, I tend to hit Luomos on Sunday because most other things are dead tben. I left Centro and headed for Copa, arriving at Luomo at about 6:30. As discussed by others, if you get there before 7 the R70 entrada is halved. So 40 minutes in cabine then works out to 270+35= R315. I sat at to the bar for about an hour chilling, then was approached by Bella, one of the mullatas there. She told me that she had just come back to work at Luomo a week ago. I digged deeper because I always wonder what GP's do after they get off the program. She claims she quit Luomo to be a flight attendant, something about Toronto, etc. I'm not really buying it due to her poor English skills. So enoug with the talk, and we started making out at the bar. Then I then noticed that she has some funky stuff going on with her skin like localized bumpy rashes on her chest and wide swathes elsewhere. At this point I decided I didn't want eczema or whatever that was, so was getting ready to shake her. But then she calls over another mullata, who said her name was Mambu or something. Nice girl with a cute face. I'm not really into dark girls, but in Rio I end up doing a lot of them and this was going to be one. So I negotiated with her for the usual BBBJ, pics, etc. She claimed she would do BBBJ and I could fuck her anal, but said that pictures were prohibited at Luomo (huh?). I thought, whatever, I am a little sick of ruining moments to capture pics that I don't need anyway. So off we went.
We got to the cabine and were there about 10 minutes making out, until her pussy went from dry to nice and slippery. At this point I noticed her sneaking a condom off the table, and she swung around to sit on my face for 69. I understood that we was about to cheat on the BJ, so told her no condom for that. She didn't say anything, and I could tell she was doing the best possible get the thing on without me detecting it. Again I called her on it. But I did like her, so I decided to give it a spin. I got out from under and flipped her for mish, but I gave her a few pokes and then started remembering how in 2009 the same thing happened to me with the CBJ at Luomo, and how I'the sworn never to let that happen again at that price level. So I took the comdom off and layed down and asked for the BBBJ again, telling her that we had an agreeent in the boite. She said no, that's my friend Bella that does does that. Not happening. So I told her I needed another girl to do what she had promised to do, then put on my robe and went to the front desk. Just like I'the been advocating here before, we should politely not stand for these bait and switch acts at termas prices.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. At this point she called the manager out, the manager called the girl, then gave me the 2 following explanations for the broken agreeement, neither of which mentioned any prohibition on BBBJ in the casa.
1. I am an unsafe customer. I went down on her and that shows that I am unsafe. What? She sat on my face at one point.
2. She thinks something is the matter with my dick. I explained to the manager that it's a circumcision scar and if she would like to inspect she is welcome. I have paperwork to show that I am clean.
So all of this ended in me not popping at Luomo, but at least they only charged me for the time used. I was being polite but serious about ir, but apparently now I am a pariah at Luomo. . To be continued. Wow! To go that far for that type of BS.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. .WOW! There is no limit to the bullshit they will try to feed you! I am so glad you told her to cut the shit because you are a frequent visitor to Rio and you know damn well there is not prohibition on BBJs! Good Job! Thanks for standing up and complaining!
HungryStud101
02-15-11, 04:12
Thanks BB.
What I meant by dinner was going out to eat after the Termas has closed. I usually go to these places in the rut and on an empty stomach. I would like to try grabbing something to eat at a 24 hours place and then heading back to my room for some more loving. It could be fun. I will try to do what you said.
MC & Luomo are both open 7 days a week now. Cab fare from the Marriot is like R$8. 00 or so. Go to my bubba report section and print a map and walk it. Probably 10 minutes walk to MC, maybe 15 to Loumo.
Getting a girl to come over after her shift has ended is not that hard, just a matter of coming up with a number. I am thinking R$200 would be a maximum, probably get it for slightly less if there is some sort of chemistry.
Getting a girl to go out with you for dinner is more of a logistical challenge. Basically a terma girl must work at least 5 days a week, maybe 6. Hence on her day off she may have family plans or whatever. For her to take the day off from work she will have to pay a fine to the Terma. Fines can be expensive, hence unless you want to spend up big it doesn't make much sense to pay her fine and pay her as well, could be R$400 +. You might get lucky in that a girl you like just happens to be free the night you want her but I would look for better options.
HungryStud101
02-15-11, 04:22
Wow what bull shit! I planed on L'umo on Sunday but due to this I am going to pass! This is just pure bull shit!
Not happening. So I told her I needed another girl to do what she had promised to do, then put on my robe and went to the front desk. Just like I'the been advocating here before, we should politely not stand for these bait and switch acts at termas prices.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. At this point she called the manager out, the manager called the girl, then gave me the 2 following explanations for the broken agreeement, neither of which mentioned any prohibition on BBBJ in the casa.
1. I am an unsafe customer. I went down on her and that shows that I am unsafe. What? She sat on my face at one point.
2. She thinks something is the matter with my dick. I explained to the manager that it's a circumcision scar and if she would like to inspect she is welcome. I have paperwork to show that I am clean.
So all of this ended in me not popping at Luomo, but at least they only charged me for the time used. I was being polite but serious about ir, but apparently now I am a pariah at Luomo. . To be continued.
Ipanema Carioca
02-15-11, 09:11
WOW! There is no limit to the bullshit they will try to feed you! I am so glad you told her to cut the shit because you are a frequent visitor to Rio and you know damn well there is not prohibition on BBJs! Good Job! Thanks for standing up and complaining!So now there will be no more BBBJs in Luomo! Thanks fellas!
Ipanema Carioca
02-15-11, 09:40
So now there will be no more BBBJs in Luomo! Thanks fellas!Clarify my statement. These termas should not be allowed to get away with poor service. The girls in these places are getting real ridiculous and spoiled. I think quality control has gone down the drain, by the termas hiring girls who will do anything to pull clients even lying about the agreed upon service. In particular, the way the girls sit around bored rather than greeting. Thanks for not letting the girl get away with her BS.
HungryStud101
02-15-11, 22:27
Here is some pricing info from an early December 2010 post. Can anyone comment as to tha accuracy of this post? It sounds like at Monte Carlo you have to pay a cabine fee. Is this included in the price listed? Any other hidden fees?
[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1099266]I just got back from Rio this week. I was there in August and already the prices have risen yet again.
Here are the new prices for your basic 40 minute session:
Luomo: R$315.
Monte Carlo: R$320.
Solarium: R$350.
Possible discounts for a 40 minute session:
Luomo: R$315. R$35 = R$280 (Every day. As long as you enter before 7p)
Monte Carlo: R$320. R$70 = R$250 (Tuesdays. Coupon for discount offcabine)
Solarium: R$350. R$40 = R$310 (Mondays. Coupon for discount off cabine)
I think all these termas were R$310 in August. So Solarium had the biggest jump. It is now priced as much as what Centaurus was about 3 years ago. By the World Cup, I wouldn't be surprised to see Solarium at current Centaurus prices, which is R$450. Then Centaurus will probably around R$600.
I gather from reading other posts that Balcony girls are asking 300R but can be had for 150-100R and Barberella girls want 400R for the night and 250R for an hour. Do you think Barberlla girls could pass as your GF and sneak by the guards at the marriot?
I love the Garota's of Rio but these prices are not a bargin compared to the 65 Euro entry and 50 Euro per 1/2 hour session of the German FKKs. At the FKK's you can do three or 4 different girls.
I am seeing that 1USD = 1. 67 R (1 Euro = 2. 25 R) but I know at the airport I will get less. What is the best way to get the best exchange rate so I can maximize the # of Garota's I see.
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For the price Termas charge now you really need to get a mind blowing experience to justify the cost. Really friggin mind blowing! As I have posted a number of times this year, there are tons of great little prives in Centro and beyond where you can bang a surprising attractive girl for as little as R$60. I went to Tigressas this week (http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/) , R$60 for 40 minutes. The rooms are just as nice as Luomo's and there are some cute girls. I actually went the hour for R$80, being the big spender that I am, and banged Chris. Chris would be in the top 5 of girls at Lumo as far as looks goes. Her service was above average, not mind blowing though, I won't repeat. However for R$80, you really can't complain versus R$300 at luomo! I would rather do 5 Chris's now rather than 1 luomo chic. (5x R$60=R$300=40mins at Luomo).
I used to think Sperto was kind of cheap going to all these out of the way places down in Centro. Now I know exactly what his game is. You can get the same quality girls for less than R$100. Now I think that Sperto is the MAN!
Member #3439
02-16-11, 03:44
Clarify my statement. These termas should not be allowed to get away with poor service. The girls in these places are getting real ridiculous and spoiled. I think quality control has gone down the drain, by the termas hiring girls who will do anything to pull clients even lying about the agreed upon service. In particular, the way the girls sit around bored rather than greeting. Thanks for not letting the girl get away with her BS.I cringe whenever I have to go to a Copa termas. (Sundays) My first termas experiences were in Sao Paulo 6 years ago. Then, the exchange to USD was 2.75 and R100 got you an hour with a hottie and the following: BBBJ, rim, FS condom optional, and CIM. TLN with any girl for the price of a session, and it was real TLN until termas opening time the next day. Maybe Rio was never like that, I don't know. But I got to think it must have been even better and has just gone downhill even more. I'm in Rio now, and I'm still sticking with my previous recommendation that people go elsewhere for vacations. My flight here is free to me, if I had to pay for a flight it would be to SEA. Given the FKK Partytreffs in Germany, and the scene repoted in Barcelona, I hardly see why Europeans would come all the way to Rio for a P4P frenzy.
Member #3439
02-16-11, 03:47
Here is the latest installment. When I left off I was leaving Copa at 6:30 AM Monday. I didn't get to bed until noon. Was sorted of bombed out and couldn't sleep then. I woke up at about 3 pm and hit Casa Behar Cambio, mentioned before in the currency thread, exchange rate is 1. 67 to the USD. Now having more cash, I hit Rua Ouvidor 130 sala 707 based on previous experiences there 6 months ago with Marcella, a tall loira who took CIM. The place is inside the 130 shopping center, right the left elevator to the 7th floor and go left. This time there were 6 girls. I took Mel, a mulata. It was R50 for 30 minutes. Good sex but everything is covered. No CIM finish was available, so I didn't pop, just warming up.
From there, I walked to Centro Lazer 13 (13 Praca Olavo Bilac) as recommended by others recently. It's posted R40/30m, R75 / hr and incremental pricing under and between these. There are 2 signs that say Praca Olavo Bilac, so watch for the numbers and you can't miss the sign. I sessioned with Natasha, who I interviewed to make sure I got BBBJ. The BBBJ was okay, but the girl acted sort of lame, for example it took her about a minute and a half to get the condom on. I suspect that most never use them outside of work. Then the sex wasn't so great because she would not DFK during sex. So I got bored and my sleepy little friend lost wood a couple times, so I had here suck it back hard again both times. BBBJ was better than the lay. But what's new, I find that the case 80% of the time. R40 30 minutes with BBBJ several times, it's a good deal.
I went back to the hotel and fell asleep until 11 pm. Then I went to Club Florida. What a sausage factory last night. Maybe 6 girls and 40 guys. I paid the R10, drank one R7 beer and left. Expensive beer. There have been a ton of young Chinese guys and Italian guys in the Praca Maua area this week. Perhaps off ships or something. Annoying bastards. Very giddy, patrolling around talking to all the girls and blocking the view of the dancers but never sessioning.
So I got out of there fast and walked to Rio Branco to catch a bus to Copa. Back to Balcony to see if I can pull any late night R100 TLN girls again. As usual, the place was packed with about 50:50 mongers to girls. I have to say that 80% of the guys mongering look like total dorks and rejects. It is almost as bad as San Jose, Costa Rica. The mullet is still in style in Copacabana, as is the hiked up shorts with white socks, braided belt, and tucked shirt. I contrast this with Centro where in even in the nastiest shacks, the mongers generally seem normal looking sometimes even classy. I begin to wonder if there is not something fundamentally wrong with this scene in Copa, where natural selection is totally turned on its head. There is a reason why good looking girls don't go for 60 year old guys with mullets, bermuda shorts and boat shoes unless money is involved. Personally, I'm glad that foreign mongers don't come into my neighborhood taking up all the decent looking easy girls, keeping them up all night, giving them disease, making them think that they are owed money for sex, etc. :)
So anyway, having already had 2 girls and not being in a rush to session again. I sat there for about 2 hours watching guys and GdPs on the perimeter. Very entertaining. Most of the guys are drunk and acting like kids in a candy store. Once I heard a 'Woo. Rio, baby yeah! ' GDP's are gathering in small groups and pointing at guys, suitable targets. Some Brasilian guys are trying to work game for low prices. I sat down in front of a girl who had taken up a place in the middle of the canopied area. Very nice looking girl, dark morena. 8/10, medium frame, perfect tits, beautiful face, looks very much like my favorite girl from the late great Flavia Masssagems circa 2009. She spoke no English, wasn't dressed like a ho (by Rio standards) , never patrolled, never drank anything the whole time. I wondered what was the matter with her, doesn't she want to sell? Only 1 guy came up to her in 2 hours. So at about 4 AM, I decided the time for high prices had passed and started making small talk. She claims she comes there twice per month. I guess I believe it, because she doesn't seem to understand that had she been walking around during that time, just smiling, some zealous tourist would have paid her R500 for ST. After talking for a while, she finally she got around to the sell, and said she wanted to go to Centro with me TLN for R100. Ok. No real detailed interview, I was ready to go and see what happens. So we walked to NS Copa and caught the 455 onibus to Presidente Vargas. Tried hailing a cab on Rio Branco at 4:30 AM. Not possible. I walked her all the way back to Praca Tiradentes. She didn't like Rua the Carioca and wanted to walk fast. I was wondering if she might get scared and bug out, but I don't think she really has no idea where she was at anyway. She lives in Bangu and says she doesn't know Centro, didn't even know where Carioca station was. So we got back to the hotel and got some drinks from the lobby, then upstairs for shower and a GFE fuck but with everything covered. Ended up shooting on her perfect tits. I found no tattoos on her. Amazing. Even the schoolmarms and other bland girls of Brasil are covered in graffiti now, so it was a surpise to me for a GDP not to have any. Anyway, she promised another round in the morning, but we never saw the rest of the morning. Her cell rang at 1 pm and woke us up. I heard her saying to someone that she had went with a guy and was in Centro, then explain why Centro and not Copacabana. Then she was in a hurry to go. Under the circumstances and hour, it was okay by me. R100, 1:15 pm, and she was out the door, no mention of a continuation by either of us. If I keep trying, I'll might find a keeper for repeats. But my service standards are high so it takes a lot of garotas to find the repeat.
Member #3439
02-16-11, 03:48
Today I went back to Centro Lazer 13 (13 Praca Olavo Bilac) to see if I could find a girl that not only does BBBJ with the FS, but also takes CIM. I arrived at 1 pm. Total sausage factory. 2 girls and maybe 10 guys. So I left and went to 15 on the same street. This place is a dive. 6 girls, I interviewed the best looking one and she said CBJ. Beers are R5 for a half liter can and sessions are R42/30. I left there with my beer and went back to 13. Smoking is allowed in 13. At about 2 pm, garotas started to roll in. One was a 9/10 loira, but she says CBJ so I couldn't. I took another, Daniele. Not a looker. 6/10 at best but she says BBBJ will be provided with an hour session, R75. Marginal looks, like not really turning me on at all. But I went for the hell of it. The session was GFE with lots of ball work (cat bath) too. I've noticed that most girls on this trip are doing ball work. On past trips, I never really got much of that. I can take it or leave it, but it's a nice touch. Just remember that if you kiss one of these girls. 70% certainty that she had some guy's sweaty nutsack in her mouth 20 minutes before. So if you're queasy, know that before arriving here. I saw the mama's list there, and it showed the hot loira Mel had been fucked 4 times before 3 pm. In Centro casas, especially at the apartments, the girls often take back-to-back sessions. It might as well be a Partytreff. And some of these like Rua Ouvidor 130/707 have very spartan bathing facilities. Like a bidet hose and a sink. In these weather conditions, no a / see, sweaty as hell, some places are like herpes central. So although you can't often detect, at least try to check it before you wreck it.
Leaving there, I passed Club 520 at Sete de Setembro 520 and stopped in. I don't think it's been reported here. It's a small place. 6 girls, I'the give it a Sperto Grade C on the quality of the girls. 2 of the 6 were doable. 1 should have been put out to pasture. 1R / minute, you know what to expect. If you want quality, think R2 / min and up.
Then I went to Termas 502 on Tuesday night, around 8 pm. It was my first time there. I had plans to go there and check it out, then go to Bar 22 and session something and come back to 502 later. Based on a previous post, I thought there was no entrada, so I walked in and looked around. When I left there was a dispute because the mama insisted that I pay a R20 entrada that was posted on the wall. They let me walk in and never said anything, bastards, then gave me a hard time. R20 entrada is mandatory is walk in the boite and includes 3 beers. I disputed that because I was literally in the boite about 20 seconds. At that point I turned around to go out, but the bouncer blocked the door and they told me I had to pay R20 to leave. Fuck it. I got the tab card and went in to stay. There were about 12 girls for a good ratio to mongers. I don't think I've ever seen so many asses shaking, dancing, girls slapping their pussies, tugging their pussy lips at mongers and showing their assholes. You name it. Not even at high time at 4x4. The funk blasts so loud on the sound system, the bass makes your clothes shake on your body. Almost all blacks and mulatas. So I figured that I might as well go ahead and pick something and screw it. R120/40 mins. I picked a mulata that had a good attitude and seemed energetic, with lots of dancing. I took her back and it was outstanding, despite being all covered. GFE, cycling positions, deep throat, and dedication to multiple pops right up until the knock on the door. Not many girls fuck like that. Top 5 I think. I asked her about doing TLN later in the week and she said sure come in and let me know in advance, then meet me outside on the street. So we'll see.
The session was GFE with lots of ball work (cat bath) too. I've noticed that most girls on this trip are doing ball work. On past trips, I never really got much of that. I can take it or leave it, but it's a nice touch. Just remember that if you kiss one of these girls. 70% certainty that she had some guy's sweaty nutsack in her mouth 20 minutes before. So if you're queasy, know that before arriving hereI like your reports. Well written. Just one thing, why would a ball sack being in their mouths be any different than having a cock in their mouths? 20 Minutes before you bang them they have probably had a lot of things in their mouths!
502. It definitely does have a cover. R$20 which is applied to your consumption. When they have "festas" there, it is a straight cover charge without any consumption applied to the bill. I believe they wave the cover before 5pm, the only problem, there is very few girls there at that time.
Check your PM before you go there again.
Clarify my statement. These termas should not be allowed to get away with poor service. The girls in these places are getting real ridiculous and spoiled. I think quality control has gone down the drain, by the termas hiring girls who will do anything to pull clients even lying about the agreed upon service. In particular, the way the girls sit around bored rather than greeting. Thanks for not letting the girl get away with her BS.They should be treating you like the King you are because you have money in your pocket to spend and they are there because they want money.
Member #3439
02-16-11, 17:00
I like your reports. Well written. Just one thing, why would a ball sack being in their mouths be any different than having a cock in their mouths? 20 Minutes before you bang them they have probably had a lot of things in their mouths!Just because most do put the nutsack in their mouth, but don't want raw cock in the mouth.
I forgot to mention in previous reports, I heard from a GDP at Luomo, that Pietra got married and off the program and the stunning alcoholic loira Ane who used to work there and at Help had an accident and somehow got her arm messed up in a way that makes her unable to do programmas. I wondered why Ane was not there last June. Figured maybe she'd gone straight and keeping her ass at home with those 2 little kids of hers instead of working 4- close at Luomo and then staggering out of Help with some gringo at 4 am for TLN until opening time the next day. :) That was her game, fast and furious. Now, on the other hand, Pietra is a real loss to industry. Last June she was swallowing, anal, etc. Maybe she moved to the countryside with Hughdad, they both left the scene at the same time.
I gather from reading other posts that Balcony girls are asking 300R but can be had for 150-100R and Barberella girls want 400R for the night and 250R for an hour. Do you think Barberlla girls could pass as your GF and sneak by the guards at the marriot?
Your Luomo pricing is correct. Your Barbarella pricing is also correct. Your Balcony pricing might be low, check my posts. It depends what time you are there, and how they percieve your experience level. If they sense that you are new, they will try to take advantage and hold a hard line on a high price. If you're taking a girl before 1 am for TLN, they will hold that line because they can find some other guy to pay R500, leave his place early due to an 'emergency' and come right back to Balcony to score another trick. There are plenty of other guys there until 4ish. Yes on the Marriot. I've stayed at Marriot and been to Barbarellas. Many of the girls could pass muster at JWM due to nice clothes, if there is not much age difference between you and the girl. To be safe, have her go in seperately. You are talking about the exchange rate and how to get the best price, but unless you are spending a massive amount of money, the difference in exchanges rates isn't going to give you that additional R300 or R400 that you need for an additional girl. If you want more girls, you need to step down to lower priced places or spend more money. BTW, Luomo was giving a 1.66 rate on the USD a couple days ago.
HungryStud101
02-17-11, 03:06
Your Luomo pricing is correct. Your Barbarella pricing is also correct. Your Balcony pricing might be low, check my posts. It depends what time you are there, and how they percieve your experience level. If they sense that you are new, they will try to take advantage and hold a hard line on a high price. If you're taking a girl before 1 am for TLN, they will hold that line because they can find some other guy to pay R500, leave his place early due to an 'emergency' and come right back to Balcony to score another trick. There are plenty of other guys there until 4ish..If the bitches do that I will do my cave man routine and drag the puntas back by her hair (LOL). So OK, go there after 2 AM.
Yes on the Marriot. I've stayed at Marriot and been to Barbarellas. Many of the girls could pass muster at JWM due to nice clothes, if there is not much age difference between you and the girl. To be safe, have her go in seperately. .If I get the right girl there will always be a big difference in age. I like young spinners.
You are talking about the exchange rate and how to get the best price, but unless you are spending a massive amount of money, the difference in exchanges rates isn't going to give you that additional R300 or R400 that you need for an additional girl. If you want more girls, you need to step down to lower priced places or spend more money. .Which lower prices places would you recomend for a non-porto speaking gringo? Maybe I ought to stick to the tourist trap Termas girls?
BTW, Luomo was giving a 1.66 rate on the USD a couple days ago.This is cool. I got Euro and USD. I'll just exchange it there.
Devilspinkick
02-17-11, 20:43
My flight here is free to me, if I had to pay for a flight it would be to SEA. Given the FKK Partytreffs in Germany, and the scene repoted in Barcelona, I hardly see why Europeans would come all the way to Rio for a P4P frenzy.No doubt the scene has changed a bit. But whenever I come to Rio, as I am right now, I always have an exellent time. Yeh SEA is cool, been there many times, but the general quality of women don't really do that much for me. Most of the gals at the Go-Go Bars are poor, uneducated farm girls. The only big advantage I see is if you like Asian women, then Asia is a no-brainer. I like Asian ladies but still have a strong desire for Latinas & Europeans.
Love the FKKs because you can find women from all over the world in the larger / better ones. I know folks have issues with the Germans but as far as I'm concerned any society that can have such institutions such as the FKKs can't be all that bad. Earlier this week I was in 4X4 and I met two German chaps. I asked one of them why they didn't just tour the FKKs in Europe and the guy responded that he felt the clubs there were boring but the Termas here were fun and festive. Don't know if I completely agree with him but I understand how he would like to visit someplace different.
- DSK
Member #3439
02-17-11, 22:46
Which lower prices places would you recomend for a non-porto speaking gringo? Maybe I ought to stick to the tourist trap Termas girls?Maybe you should stick to termas if this is your first time. It takes time to shop the cheap places, and if you don't have any basic Porto its going to be awkward for you. But if you are the adventurous type and have plenty of time, maybe you'll want to check the reports of distinction for the last year for some cheap places.
No doubt the scene has changed a bit. But whenever I come to Rio, as I am right now, I always have an exellent time. Yeh SEA is cool, been there many times, but the general quality of women don't really do that much for me. Most of the gals at the Go-Go Bars are poor, uneducated farm girls. The only big advantage I see is if you like Asian women, then Asia is a no-brainer. I like Asian ladies but still have a strong desire for Latinas & Europeans.Thanks for the feedback. Haha, that's part of what I like about them, they are poor and uneducated. So in my experience they sell cheap, do anything, and usually don't work game on you. Latinas I've known in USA, Brasil, Costa Rica and Mexico were all smart and good at hustling like a used car salesgirl. . Especially Brasileiras due to all the tourism here.
Member #3439
02-18-11, 05:53
Here is an update: This week, I've been running slower than on previous trips, earlier because of a bad foot blister (damn heat) and now due to some bacterial thing that was making me feel horrible yesterday, must be from DATY or DFK. I think I got a little taste of the second hand feijoada 4 or 5 days ago, by accident of course. I went low and got a surprise. Probably the cause. Yesterday my lower body hurt. Today sometimes feel like my head is going to fall off my neck. So I've been running on jungle monger's tonic. 4 mg Imodium for diarrea. 500 mg Atrizitromicina for infection. 715 mg CafiAsprina for pain. 100 mg Viagra to keep the little friend alive, crushed up using the handset of the telephone in the hotel room, and then mixed with tonic water, shaken not stirred. It won't make you feel perfect, but at least you won't pass out or shit your self during session. And not passing out or shitting yourself can be half of the battle.
Yesterday, I made it to Tigressa and found a garota who provides things I am looking for. I had plans to go back for a repeat on the girl from T502, but couldn't make it. Crashed into the bed and slept for 15 hours. During this time, I was feverish and delusional. I kept the air on 10 C, high fan, and no pillow to keep from frying brain cells. Woke up in time to gather more supplies for mongers cocktail. Back to Tigressa again, and I found that multiple sessions are causing the services to get better. Girls like repeat customers.
After that, I went to T502. The girl I fucked the other night saw me and came over. She is a new girl, I think, because the managers never know her name when I take her up front to pay the session. She wants to do another 40 min. I was spent from Tijuca and not feeling like it. I told her that I will go if she does BBBJ. The other night she would *not*. Then she started the hustle. Told me that no girl there is allowed to do things without condom (sound familiar?). I said that's not true, I know better. Then she said, okay but R40 extra. I said no. Then she said she would if I buy 1hour instead of 40 min. Again, I said no. The she left for maybe 3 or 4 minutes and came back to say okay. 40 min sem camisinha. I don't think she realized that I was going to hold her to just that for 40 minues. Literally, I did have her do BBBJ for the whole time minus about 3 minutes. I never asked for fuck this time, I could hear my guts rumbling and didn't want to test the waters within to see what that was all about. It was a good time. I don't remember ever having a girl give BJ for that long. And she seemed to be into it the whole time slurp, slurp, pop, you know. I think she's just ho by nature rather than by necessity, and wants to be very pleasing.
So we got done and she ended up telling me that she has been married for 1 year and has 1 five year old kid. I would not have know it, no stetch marks and firm belly. She said she lives in Nova Igazcu. I asked if her husband knows her work, and she said no, he thinks she's a telefonista and would shoot her in the head if he knew what she does. I laughed and she said verdade. I told her that she's a chupandista. She cracked up. I wonder where she hides the difference in money between telefonista and GDP. Its not like she could show up at home with fancy new things and not draw suspicion. Hmmm. And how to explain the hearing loss and any STI? The sound system there is unsafe. Anyway, she is wanting my phone number for TLN. If I get feeling better tomorrow, maybe. As I'm leaving, black girl came up to me and realizing that I didn't understand all of whatever complicated Portuguese she was speaking at me, she tried her English. The universal globally-used phrase, 'Me fuck you'. (Someone should really start a factory that makes ME FUCK YOU temporary tattoos, so a girl can make it clear, using this tattoo, with a simple coquettish point of the finger, that she's not there in a bikini and 7-inch clear stripper heels to clean the the toilets or whatever.) Then she followed with. 'Me a blojobee yo dickee.' Great, now that I've heard that I could go home. Good to know that I have options. .
On another note, let's talk about how much a GDP makes in a low end casa. At Bar 22 and VM the girl takes half. Yesterday I checked the personal log book of a Tigressa, its a schoolgirl notebook with cute things all over it, it's where she keeps records of her tricks and profits. On her best day since start, she did 6 tricks and made R185. She averages about 3, let's say R95. Sounds like subsistence living considering a small plate at a quilo place and a drink costs R17, but I have previously provided a reference that say the average favela resident makes R600 per month. So if they live outside the city, and they usually do, they are cleaning up, even at VM or BA 85 rates. So most likely, the girls at Luomo are semi-wealthy if they move to towns outside Rio proper.
On yet another note, WTF is up with Centro that makes everyone leave it at night? In June last year and the year before, at 8 pm the streets were dead, like you could hear a pin drop. Now in February there is a lot more life here, like work crews, but still no one seems to live here in any of the apartments or above any of the stores. Lots of wasted space. Seems like it should be good cheap real estate in one of the quaint old Portuguese style buildings.
The information I have differs. Pietra is recovering from an abortion. Culprit being an american client she was doing "na pele"
She will be back very very shortly. Do not fear
Eric Cartman
02-18-11, 14:26
Then I went to Termas 502 on Tuesday night, around 8 pm. It was my first time there. I had plans to go there and check it out, then go to Bar 22 and session something and come back to 502 later. Based on a previous post, I thought there was no entrada, so I walked in and looked around. When I left there was a dispute because the mama insisted that I pay a R20 entrada that was posted on the wall. They let me walk in and never said anything, bastards, then gave me a hard time. R20 entrada is mandatory is walk in the boite and includes 3 beers. I disputed that because I was literally in the boite about 20 seconds. At that point I turned around to go out, but the bouncer blocked the door and they told me I had to pay R20 to leave. Fuck it. I got the tab card and went in to stay. There were about 12 girls for a good ratio to mongers. I don't think I've ever seen so many asses shaking, dancing, girls slapping their pussies, tugging their pussy lips at mongers and showing their assholes. You name it. Not even at high time at 4x4. The funk blasts so loud on the sound system, the bass makes your clothes shake on your body. Almost all blacks and mulatas. So I figured that I might as well go ahead and pick something and screw it. R120/40 mins. I picked a mulata that had a good attitude and seemed energetic, with lots of dancing. I took her back and it was outstanding, despite being all covered. GFE, cycling positions, deep throat, and dedication to multiple pops right up until the knock on the door. Not many girls fuck like that. Top 5 I think. I asked her about doing TLN later in the week and she said sure come in and let me know in advance, then meet me outside on the street. So we'll see.It's funny. We always think 502 is super cheap for R$20 which includes 3 beers or waters.
Sounds like you fucked Samira? Little short mulatta who dances a ton (gets a little sweaty, I like that).
FYI in 502, there is a second room that is much quieter than the main boite. When you are facing the reception desk, it is behind you. Down the corridor past the stairs that go up to the rooms. Go through the door and there is a decent-sized room with its own bar, tables, chairs. Significantly quieter and eaiser to talk to the girls. The problem is that it is used as the "smoking room" so some nights it can be full of smoke. But usually if I see a girl I like in the main boate, I immediately lead her to the smoking room for a chat. And I / we normally hang out in the smoking room. Also sometimes it gives you a good view of girls coming down from their programmas upstairs.
Devilspinkick
02-18-11, 14:32
WTF is up with Centro that makes everyone leave it at night? In June last year and the year before, at 8 pm the streets were dead, like you could hear a pin drop. Now in February there is a lot more life here, like work crews, but still no one seems to live here in any of the apartments or above any of the stores. Lots of wasted space. Seems like it should be good cheap real estate in one of the quaint old Portuguese style buildings.Centro is a place to work in the morning & afternoon, hit the bars / cafes / boates / termas in the evening, and then leave and go home or another part of the town at night. Not so many folks live in the Centro, especially if they can afford not to. At least that's the impression I've gotten about it.
Glad that you're having a good time. I only have a couple of nights left here but of course there is plenty of sinning yet to be done.
- DSK
Eric Cartman
02-18-11, 14:35
For the price Termas charge now you really need to get a mind blowing experience to justify the cost. Really friggin mind blowing! As I have posted a number of times this year, there are tons of great little prives in Centro and beyond where you can bang a surprising attractive girl for as little as R$60. I went to Tigressas this week (
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/
) , R$60 for 40 minutes. The rooms are just as nice as Luomo's and there are some cute girls. I actually went the hour for R$80, being the big spender that I am, and banged Chris. Chris would be in the top 5 of girls at Lumo as far as looks goes. Her service was above average, not mind blowing though, I won't repeat. However for R$80, you really can't complain versus R$300 at luomo! I would rather do 5 Chris's now rather than 1 luomo chic. (5x R$60=R$300=40mins at Luomo).
I used to think Sperto was kind of cheap going to all these out of the way places down in Centro. Now I know exactly what his game is. You can get the same quality girls for less than R$100. Now I think that Sperto is the MAN! I generally agree with BB. The price I've been paying at T's lately for mediocre sex is a bit extreme. Sure, it's like ice cream and pizza. Even when it's bad it's still pretty good. But he's right there are better options. I would just note the following.
1) What you don't get in the privates is the hang-around time. Watching the chicks before dancing in their bikinis, making out on the couch like schoolkids with the one you chose, and then after you bang her, sitting with her some more in the boate and continuing to make out. It's like instant girlfriend for maybe 2 hours. Some days I really like that.
2) Tigressas and other privates are pretty cool but they are, unfortunately, somewhat out of the way for the daily worker in Rio. I am generally in my office in Copa from 8:30AM to 7PM, and I can't get out from Copa to go to Centro or Tijuca. If you have a more flexible schedule, then sure they are 100% awesome options. Plus because they typically are closed at night and wekeends, it is much easier to find a girl there who will come visit you at your place on nights & weekends. Same is true of Balcony / DV, which again is typically too late for my schedule. {Note some awesome privates like Tigressas and Bel Prazer are open on Saturdays!!}
3) Not sure what the deal is but the quality in Zona Sul T's seems to have dropped lately. MC and L'Uomo haven't had real 8-10s IMHO last few weeks. I actually paid the entrada but left without doing anyone at both places 2 weeks ago.
4) Funny story: I rock up to L'uomo on Monday night around 6:50pm (had to head to airport at 8pm) and there is a line of about 10 guys outside, I think speaking Italian. I go in and ask the recepcionista what's going on, and she says they want to come in for a look but they don't want to pay the entrada (which is only R$35 before 7pm if you take a girl). Everyone's a hustler.
To access these fine casas jump the metro to Saens Pena. All are a max of 5 minutes from the metro. Each place has 1 or 2 very nice quality ladies willing to do pretty much everything. Of course there are more ladies there. Normally at these places you pay a little extra for anal, something like R$20. Can't complain really.
Tigresas Tijucanas, Rua General Roca 340/114 http://www.tigresastijucanas.com M-F 10:00 ás 20.00 Sat 10:00 ás 18:00
Massagem Tijuca, Av Paula e Souza (Maracanã) http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br M-F 10:00 ás 19.30 Sat 10:00 ás 18:30
Mix Massagem, Rua Conde de Bonfim 352 Sala 506 http://www.mixmassagem.com/ M-F 09:00 ás 19.30 Sat 09:00 ás 15.00
Anne Massagem, Rua General Roca 263 http://www.annemassagens.com.br/ M-F 09:00 ás 20.00
Sat 09:00 ás 20.00
The prices are as follows, all are between R$80 to R$90 for the hour. 40 minutes is R$60. They also have 30 minute options at these places. Can't go wrong really for R$60 for a 40 minute ride.
Member #3439
02-18-11, 22:52
The information I have differs. Pietra is recovering from an abortion. Culprit being an american client she was doing "na pele"
She will be back very very shortly. Do not fearYikes. You would think the girl would take a pill, especially at the rates they make, they can afford them. They are probably free anyway.
Maybe thats what suddenly happened to the girl I was loading up everyday in 22 last year. Dropped off the radar a month or so later and no one knows what happened.
4) Funny story: I rock up to L'uomo on Monday night around 6:50pm (had to head to airport at 8pm) and there is a line of about 10 guys outside, I think speaking Italian. I go in and ask the recepcionista what's going on, and she says they want to come in for a look but they don't want to pay the entrada (which is only R$35 before 7pm if you take a girl). Everyone's a hustler.
I think 10 guys can do whatever they want and no one would try to stop them. :) I can understand. One Sunday night I went there and there were only 3 girls until 7:30, mostly curled up, half sleeping like they do.
HungryStud101
02-19-11, 00:29
I am getting ready for my second trip to Rio. I speak no Porto. I was going to hit Monte Carlo and L'umo and maybe cast my lot at the Balconi.
I am trying to understand why there is such a disparity between the prices at a Termas and the girls at the Privies? It just doesn't make sense. Nowhere else in hobby land (near as I can figure) can you get the same pussy for the same range of prices. R60-R80 at Tigres vs R450 at Centaurus. I am tempted to go to a privy but I am worried that I will end up on the wrong end of a stick-up. And whos going to pay R470 at Barberellas when they can get a girl at the balconi from R150-R250?
I just don't get it?
I am getting ready for my second trip to Rio. I speak no Porto. I was going to hit Monte Carlo and L'umo and maybe cast my lot at the Balconi.
I am trying to understand why there is such a disparity between the prices at a Termas and the girls at the Privies? It just doesn't make sense. Nowhere else in hobby land (near as I can figure) can you get the same pussy for the same range of prices. R60-R80 at Tigres vs R450 at Centaurus. I am tempted to go to a privy but I am worried that I will end up on the wrong end of a stick-up. And whos going to pay R470 at Barberellas when they can get a girl at the balconi from R150-R250?
I just don't get it? You have a better chance of getting robbed while leaving balcony bar than while being in Tijuca or centro.
Termas and prives are a completely different experience. A terma is a better experience in that you can hang with the girls for a decent amount of time before or after. Is it worth 4 times the price? Well, everyone has a different perception of value. As a tourist staying here a short time it may be worth it, if you live in Rio it presents a lot less value because you get to know more girls and that gives better options at way less cost.
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