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Member #3439
05-21-11, 08:08
Thats my advice cause its hard to have a bad time in Rio. I just think your over planning.Best to do plenty of planning, I think. Study the map, study the hours of operation, learn the transit systems, read a least a year of Reports of Distinction. A good trip is built on preparation and having intelligence about where you are going. I recommend against a first timer wandering into most Sperto's list hangouts. They are mainly low end locals places and most vacationers wouldn't like them, or know what behavior is expected. Definitely not a places for a guy who thinks he might fall in love in Rio.
If I was going to look for a mate in Rio as he suggested, first I'd ask myself why, and ask again to make sure, and if I justified looking for a Brasilian girl vs one from my own culture and background, I'd try to meet a Carioca girl in a mall or somewhere. An esteemed member here met his girlfriend whilst walking down the street outside his dentist office, and having spoken to her in person I can confirm that she is as wild as any GDP and looks to match. So best for a first timer to look for pussy in Copa and his get his Romeo on in the streets of someplace like Barra or Flamengo if he must, and avoid the wanton cheap hos in places in Centro/Norte. The gentleman's observation skills may need to be refined prior to visiting Rio, based on the response to my youtube link post. I'd hate to see him falling for a Centro girl that has a loose arsehole and sucks sperm all day long for cheap. These girls must represent the high school sluts of Brasil, who graduate and had nothing better to do. Some guys have that propensity, to fall for girls based on them being likeminded, me included. But the GDP's are out of control to the point of living an unhealthy lifestyle. Even the hardcore mongers like from the Partytreff thread or the guys who live in Patts or AC, don't act out as much as the Rio GDP's. Then a Romeo comes to town, and finds himself banging putas because he can't swing enough Porto to find his love, and then falls for the putas and it ends badly. I'd go a step further and say that guys looking for love in Rio, should not visit Rio. Probably they'd leave with bad feelings about the Marvelous City.
Alex Deuce
05-21-11, 13:05
Best to do plenty of planning, I think. Study the map, study the hours of operation, learn the transit systems, read a least a year of Reports of Distinction. A good trip is built on preparation and having intelligence about where you are going. I recommend against a first timer wandering into most Sperto's list hangouts. They are mainly low end locals places and most vacationers wouldn't like them, or know what behavior is expected. Definitely not a places for a guy who thinks he might fall in love in Rio.
If I was going to look for a mate in Rio as he suggested, first I'd ask myself why, and ask again to make sure, and if I justified looking for a Brasilian girl vs one from my own culture and background, I'd try to meet a Carioca girl in a mall or somewhere. An esteemed member here met his girlfriend whilst walking down the street outside his dentist office, and having spoken to her in person I can confirm that she is as wild as any GDP and looks to match. So best for a first timer to look for pussy in Copa and his get his Romeo on in the streets of someplace like Barra or Flamengo if he must, and avoid the wanton cheap hos in places in Centro / Norte. The gentleman's observation skills may need to be refined prior to visiting Rio, based on the response to my youtube link post. I'd hate to see him falling for a Centro girl that has a loose arsehole and sucks sperm all day long for cheap. These girls must represent the high school sluts of Brasil, who graduate and had nothing better to do. Some guys have that propensity, to fall for girls based on them being likeminded, me included. But the GDP's are out of control to the point of living an unhealthy lifestyle. Even the hardcore mongers like from the Partytreff thread or the guys who live in Patts or AC, don't act out as much as the Rio GDP's. Then a Romeo comes to town, and finds himself banging putas because he can't swing enough Porto to find his love, and then falls for the putas and it ends badly. I'd go a step further and say that guys looking for love in Rio, should not visit Rio. Probably they'd leave with bad feelings about the Marvelous City. I agree to a point. However, I think this kid has read every line of this forum, bubbas guide and Spertos. If he is fawning over a youtube video in a lurched heat, he aint going to make it ten minutes in a terma before he is in love.
Besides, I like sluts.
I agree to a point. However, I think this kid has read every line of this forum, bubbas guide and Spertos. If he is fawning over a youtube video in a lurched heat, he aint going to make it ten minutes in a terma before he is in love.
Besides, I like sluts. He's going to have his mind blown. He'll be like a dog in heat! Where do I go? Who do I choose? What is she doing to me! All I will say is be careful and have a lot of fun. You WILL have a lot of fun The forum contains a lot of very good advice (re saftey, prices and how to spot ripoffs). Let us know how you get on.
Legal Tender
05-21-11, 18:45
He's going to have his mind blown. He'll be like a dog in heat! Where do I go? Who do I choose? What is she doing to me! All I will say is be careful and have a lot of fun. You WILL have a lot of fun The forum contains a lot of very good advice (re saftey, prices and how to spot ripoffs). Let us know how you get on.I'm not the kid about whom Torgoch wrote, but I am making my first trip to Rio next week. I've done my fair share of reading but, of course, there is no substitute for boots on the ground, so to speak. I've got a simple question: What is the best kind of clothes to wear where you will be comfortable and "not out of place" so to speak. And, I'm so appreciative of the many contributions from those who have been there (or live there) and provided so much information. I hope to contribute.
My hope is that we all enjoy only good energy.
Mr Enternational
05-21-11, 20:30
He's going to have his mind blown. He'll be like a dog in heat! Where do I go? Who do I choose? What is she doing to me!That is not saying much. I have been going there for 10 years and went to school there and I'm still that way.
Simple slacks or jeans (No shorts even in the summer) , knit shirt with a collar and decent sneakers will keep you from standing out as a tourist when you are out and about. To carry your stuff a smalll backpack will do the trick. Try not to have really recognizable brands that will call the attention of the locals in your directiion. Definitely don't walk around wearing bling, you might as well walk around with money hanging out of your pockets because some clown may want to take a shot. It is just like any big city anywhere: Beware of your sorroundings, have a plan, don't go anywhere staggering drunk and you will do fine. Act like you know what you are doing and no one should bother you even if you don't really know what you are doing. Does that make sense? Above all, have a great time.
I'm not the kid about whom Torgoch wrote, but I am making my first trip to Rio next week. I've done my fair share of reading but, of course, there is no substitute for boots on the ground, so to speak. I've got a simple question: What is the best kind of clothes to wear where you will be comfortable and "not out of place" so to speak. And, I'm so appreciative of the many contributions from those who have been there (or live there) and provided so much information. I hope to contribute.
My hope is that we all enjoy only good energy.
Grandnash84
05-22-11, 01:52
Thanks alex duce, puta playa, and the rest thanks for the info. Just to clear something up, I was inquiring about the marriage thing for me in about 10 years! I'm only 31 and I just wanted some info on it when I ready to marry if I ever do LOL. There aint no way in hell ill ever marry a gdp, I want a 18 year old virgin, if these is such a thing in brazil. Anyways, I guess ill just stick to the maps and bubba guide for my first trip since ill be alone and hopefully try to find a non pro for some freebees. BTW, where is a safe place where I can pick up on some non working girls? And alex I alomst done with reading this entire forum! LOL
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1156176]Yes, Luomo for Sundays. Or Balcony. Or Barbarella if you are a rich guy.
1. Follow Sperto's map to VM. Cheap banging, down and dirty mongering. . Safest sex in Rio.
2. It's also possible to find Sunday action at Praça Mauá at the tables outside Bar Florida but 90% of it is totally undoable.
3. Fly in a day earlier and do Rio on Friday and Sat instead, if at all possible. Otherwise, Sunday is your day for tourism, imo. Ride the 583 onibus from Av Nossa Senhora de Copacabana to the base of Corcovado, ride the tram up and see Cristo in the morning, take a cab to a nice lunch somewhere like Marius Leme or Porcao Rios, then head over to Luomo for an earlybird special with no entrada.
The only guidelines are is 'if a puta's mouth is moving, she is lying. ', never pay up front, if they are not providing what you want cut the session short and ask for an alternate, or kick the girl out the the room with R35 cab fare, and remember that the Brasil minimum wage is about R600 per MONTH so do sanity checks on what freelancers are asking for. ]
Thanks senor, great perfect post.
Any suggestions for sao apulo and manaus?
If you need anythhing on Tijuana MX, let me know.
Gracias por todo eh!
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Member #3439
05-22-11, 11:10
I've got a simple question: What is the best kind of clothes to wear where you will be comfortable and "not out of place" so to speak. .I wear jeans, t-shirt or button-up and casual shoes kind of like Skecher Talus. Works everywhere from Copa to Lapa to Vila Mimosa. I wouldn't carry a pack. I know some guys travel with a DSLR camera, dildos, buttplugs, Victoria's Secret lotions for girls, even towels! I recommend just getting a small camera, pack of rubbers, stash your money in your front pockets, leave the credit/atm cards in the hotel safe.
He's going to have his mind blown. He'll be like a dog in heat! Where do I go? Who do I choose? What is she doing to me!
Yeah, almost everyone is impressed. My first Brasil experience was magical, but in Sampa not Rio. That last question is the reason..cause the girls can make you wonder what they are going to do, and why. Sometimes a cold aloof girl goes on the attack GFE when you get alone, or a hot horny acting girl turns out to be shitty, or a girl takes a liking to you and does special stuff or comes over to your place. Or girls will try preposterous things. One time in VM, I'd just finished fucking a girl and was putting my clothes on. A totally different girl came in, blocked the door and insisted that I owed her money because she'd fucked me...must have thought I was drunk or stupid. I just laughed and pushed through the door. #2 weird thing, after the Muslim freelance girl in JKT that was outside my hotel room screaming at 4 AM that I'd tried to defile her body and owed her some outrageous cab fare. We didn't have sex. 'Defile' means I mentioned the idea of pictures and she flipped out. 10 more minutes and she would have have an infidel reaming her ass by choice, so whats the big deal. GPs are crazy no matter what city you are in. The ones in Rio are just crazy in a friendlier sort of way. I think they feel okay about what they do, and aren't afraid to let their guard down and act normal once in a while. Sometimes Rio GP's want to tell you their life story, and although only half of it can be believed, at least they like to talk vs just being sex automatons.
BTW, where is a safe place where I can pick up on some non working girls? The bars in Lapa. Best to bang a few GPs during the day and evening, then it's zero pressure when you go to Lapa.
That is not saying much. I have been going there for 10 years and went to school there and I'm still that way.Fair point Mr E! But the first time you encounter the brasileira (for me the definition of sexiness, horniness and sexual prowess once warmed up) , is a very special moment! And after that there is no looking back. You are hooked.
Thanks alex duce, puta playa, and the rest thanks for the info. Just to clear something up, I was inquiring about the marriage thing for me in about 10 years! I'm only 31 and I just wanted some info on it when I ready to marry if I ever do LOL. There aint no way in hell ill ever marry a gdp, I want a 18 year old virgin, if these is such a thing in brazil. Anyways, I guess ill just stick to the maps and bubba guide for my first trip since ill be alone and hopefully try to find a non pro for some freebees. BTW, where is a safe place where I can pick up on some non working girls? And alex I alomst done with reading this entire forum! LOLPicking up some non working girls: I'd suggest a shopping mall, like Rio Sul, during the daytime. In the evening try the bars and night clubs in Ipanema and Leblon. I have scored in both places, repeatedly. But I have also come to the conclusion that the effort and the inevitable drama that follows are not worth it. Plus, with a non-working girl there is absolutely no guarantee that you will get laid on the first date. With only a few precious days in Rio I would not want one wasted on chasing a non-pro. Brazilian girls are not falling all over themselves to hump a gringo; if they do, you know that they are likely GDPs. Bottom line: Renting works so much better than leasing, if you get my drift.
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MtdaRioLeo
05-24-11, 22:34
Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!
JayHighFive
05-24-11, 22:45
You can't go wrong with any of them but I would pick Medellin. In my humble opioion MED is the next best place to Rio. You can find good quality girls for really cheap. Stay at the Casa Blanca since it is your first time. Greg, oyd and Robert will show you the ropes.
Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!
MtdaRioLeo
05-24-11, 22:52
You can't go wrong with any of them but I would pick Medellin. In my humble opioion MED is the next best place to Rio. You can find good quality girls for really cheap. Stay at the Casa Blanca since it is your first time. Greg, oyd and Robert will show you the ropes.I heard they have casas that are similar to the termas in Rio. What's your rating? Do Greg or Robert arrange airport transpo or do you just have to cross your fingers with a cab?
Hillbilly69
05-24-11, 22:58
I heard they have casas that are similar to the termas in Rio. What's your rating? Do Greg or Robert arrange airport transpo or do you just have to cross your fingers with a cab?I wouldn't go to Sosua. I once went there two weeks after Medellin Feria and it felt like
I got kicked in the balls by NFL kicker.
If you can afford it stick to Rio unless you want to see new places.
Sosua is Margaritaville but quality isn't that good.
Medellin quality of working chicas has also taken a digger in last 4 years or so.
Been 25 times DR and Colombia in last 3 years.
MtdaRioLeo
05-24-11, 23:23
Thanks fellow mongerers! Keep the feedback coming. I'm going to make a decision in the next hour. It appears with all the "crackdown" action in Sosua. That's more risk than reward. I like termas be / see at least the well established ones the girls have to get tested. Do they have the same compliance in MDE?
I heard they have casas that are similar to the termas in Rio. What's your rating? Do Greg or Robert arrange airport transpo or do you just have to cross your fingers with a cab?Medellin casas similar to Rio termas? Not even close.
The casas in Medellin are a simple, enter, see a line-up, choose and go.
Good value, but not where you're going to hang out all day and relax and enjoy.
And Yes, you can have those guys, through their secretary, set up airport pickup.
I heard they have casas that are similar to the termas in Rio. What's your rating? Do Greg or Robert arrange airport transpo or do you just have to cross your fingers with a cab?Just FYI. Robert is a great guy, classy guy that will help out in any situation. Greg on the other hand basically just creates problems for Robert to fix! Yes the house they operate are worth staying at. MDE is probably in the top 5 of destinations in Latin America, maybe top 3!
1. Rio.
2. Buenos Aires.
3. Medellin!
Just FYI. Robert is a great guy, classy guy that will help out in any situation. Greg on the other hand basically just creates problems for Robert to fix! Yes the house they operate are worth staying at. MDE is probably in the top 5 of destinations in Latin America, maybe top 3!
1. Rio.
2. Buenos Aires.
3. Medellin! Yep, Robert is a good friend of mine, great guy!
Boyd is back too. He's the other partner. Helpful as well.
My top picks:
1. Sao Paulo.
2. Rio.
3. Medellin.
4. Cartagena.
5. The rest of Colombia.
6. The DR.
7. BA Argentina.
6. BA Argentina
Eric Cartman
05-27-11, 05:11
Hit Termas Cancun on Rua Carno (sp?) tonight in Centro. Hadn't been there in about 3-4 months. Always like to have dinner nearby on the square up the street, always good. Was there with Churroman who, true to his name, consumed 3 churros today. That I know about.
Anyway, got to Cancun around 8. 45pm. Boate had a live guitar / drums duo playing Braz songs, not bad. Trouble was the 30 guys to 18 girls ratio. All Braz guys, standing around in robes drinking. Not really one hottie in the bunch of girls. Waited about 30 mins to see any change, and left. Whiskeria downstairs did appear fuller but we didn't take a look.
Entrada was only R$30. I couldn't tell if that was a special or normal these days at Cancun. Whiskeria was R$20 entada counted towards consumption.
Pretty bummed overall as I've had some luck at Cancun in the distant past.
-Cartman
Hit Termas Cancun on Rua Carno (sp?) tonight in Centro. Hadn't been there in about 3-4 months. Always like to have dinner nearby on the square up the street, always good. Was there with Churroman who, true to his name, consumed 3 churros today. That I know about.
Anyway, got to Cancun around 8. 45pm. Boate had a live guitar / drums duo playing Braz songs, not bad. Trouble was the 30 guys to 18 girls ratio. All Braz guys, standing around in robes drinking. Not really one hottie in the bunch of girls. Waited about 30 mins to see any change, and left. Whiskeria downstairs did appear fuller but we didn't take a look.
Entrada was only R$30. I couldn't tell if that was a special or normal these days at Cancun. Whiskeria was R$20 entada counted towards consumption.
Pretty bummed overall as I've had some luck at Cancun in the distant past.
-CartmanI can never work out the entrance at this place. Sometimes it is R$30, sometimes it is R$50, sometimes includes consumption, sometimes not. Very Brazilian way to price things!
Off topic. Sorry folks!
Can anyone suggest a good sportsbar or just a good place in Rio / Copacabana to watch tomorrows final?
Rio Me Ever
05-27-11, 20:14
Off topic. Sorry folks!
Can anyone suggest a good sportsbar or just a good place in Rio / Copacabana to watch tomorrows final? You might try Shenanigans Irish Pub it is in Ipanema on Rua Visconde de Pirajá.112a
Member #3433
05-27-11, 20:44
Off topic. Sorry folks!
Can anyone suggest a good sportsbar or just a good place in Rio / Copacabana to watch tomorrows final? This bar has a few flat screens. Good food and good atmosphere.
Sonny.
http://www.bananajack.com.br/
Exec Talent
05-27-11, 22:12
For those of you who make regular trips to Rio, be sure to arrange your lodging early. Unlike in the past, it is not that easy to find apartments or even hotel rooms these days. Many short-term rentals are now being rented monthly and have been taken off the temporary rental market. Budget hotels no longer qualify as budget and even they have limited availability.
Ipanema Carioca
05-28-11, 05:35
Anyway, got to Cancun around 8. 45pm. Boate had a live guitar / drums duo playing Braz songs, not bad. Trouble was the 30 guys to 18 girls ratio. All Braz guys, standing around in robes drinking. Not really one hottie in the bunch of girls. Waited about 30 mins to see any change, and left. Whiskeria downstairs did appear fuller but we didn't take a look.
Entrada was only R$30. I couldn't tell if that was a special or normal these days at Cancun. Whiskeria was R$20 entada counted towards consumption.
Pretty bummed overall as I've had some luck at Cancun in the distant past.
-CartmanI was in Rio and went to Cancun 13-23 April, and the action was the same as you explained it. I did get one girl who approached me who had lil to sign language english ability. I took her because there were so many Brazil there as if they were having a private party. I took the girl and we had a long wait for a room. Once we got in she was great but a little new and timid. I liked it because it gave a nonpro air. I was satisfied with BBBJ, great pussy fuck, but she couldn't quit get my dick in her ass. But the pussy positions were great. She had nice tits, dark hair, hazel eyes, and was naturally round in the right places. She took the cum shot on her tits.
After she gave me her number, but she didn't return to the bar. Suddenly an english speaking, tall black dark afro wearing garoata started stalking me but I was done, sort of running from her. But we chatted and I told her I was done. But I did get her to give me her number. Then she asked if I wanted to eat after, since Cancun was about to close. She suggested I met her at the McDonalds on Rus Branco. I got there and waited and she arrived in 20 minutes and we rode a taxi to Lapa. It was a Wednesday night or Thursday morning. We at and took a taxi to my place near Belforte Roxo and Copacabana. Got to my place a 3am. She showered and when I showered she fell a sleep on my couch. Fuck. So I went to bed. All doors were locked, and the keys, money, credit cards and valuables were hidden. Plus usually tema girls are not as risky as other Rio gdp. When I a woke she was in bed with be in a spooning position with no panties on and I had a morning woody. Reach and got a condom and slipped it on and entered her. I can get a hint. We fucked for a long time. But She had FAKE tits. I hate fake tits. But she had everything eles nice, especially the bunda.
When it was all said and done she left before noon for she had to go home to Flamingo and get ready for school and work. Besides food and drink in Lapa, I gave her R$30 cab fare. Tchau. She's now my friend on orkut.
I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July! I will even bring you the receipt so you will know I am not trying to make any money off of you!" This b*tch had the nerve to get upset and say "I can't believe you do not trust me! I will give you the money once you get here!"
I explained to her that I know at least 8 Americans who had brought things to Rio for the Brasilians to then claim that they didn't have the money or that they wanted a discount. Now mind you, this girl just came back from 3 months in Europe, so I am sure she made a boat load of euros while she was there and here she was complaining about sending me a lousy 500 dollars!
I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative!
Member #3439
05-30-11, 08:11
I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July!
I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative! I can understand the GDP not wanting to trust a gringo monger with 500 US of her money. I doubt these girls trust any man. I think it's unfounded though. Most international-traveling mongers that I've met are really fine people, the kind of people that are highly regarded in their professional and personal lives outside the mongering scene. But the girls don't know the difference between classier gringos, and the favelados that they are used to. All the same to them, so I wouldn't expect or extend trust from / to these girls.
In the case that you had brought one and she couldn't pay you, couldn't you could return it to Best Buy or whatever unopened when you get home, or take alternate forms of payment from her and her friends before giving it to her. 500 US is a lot of pussy, but pussy in Rio adds up to 500 fast, and she's well motivated to hook you up with some crazy girls and crazy times to get that laptop so I would rethink it.
As Brasilians start to want more foreign goods, maybe they will realize how the govt is fucking them dry with the import tariffs that are passed on to the consumer, and demand that the protectionist tariffs are reduced. Until then, we can try to take advantage of their backwards system by bringing in simple things duty-free, and reaping the benefits of that favor. I've never brought in things for girls, but I always get requests from Brasilian business associates for oddball items from the US. They order online and have it shipped to me, then I bring it and they are eternally grateful. Some wise-guys will give work contracts to foreigners contingent on those foreigners meeting with them in Brasil so many times. This is because they want the gringos to bring in duty-free items for their personal use each time. So if you play along, they are eager to contract with you again because they have a whole list of thing they want duty-free. And you get to monger each time, with the travel paid by their company. It's a wonderful thing. I've never had to pay my own airfare to Brasil, as Brasileiros see to it that their company pays for it, so they can get something duty free from my suitcase! And it's all legal! As the Brasilian cultural trainers say, in BR it's all about personal relationships. Bringing duty free is part of that. In my experience, if you bring some duty free stuff and speak some Porto, you become regarded as one of the good gringos.
I can understand the GDP not wanting to trust a gringo monger with 500 US of her money. I doubt these girls trust any man. I think it's unfounded though. Most international-traveling mongers that I've met are really fine people, the kind of people that are highly regarded in their professional and personal lives outside the mongering scene. But the girls don't know the difference between classier gringos, and the favelados that they are used to. All the same to them, so I wouldn't expect or extend trust from / to these girls.
PutaPlaya you are right, but in this case, this young lady and I have a history. We have known each other for over 10 years! MANY times I have given her money to help her with her bills or save her from some emergency or another. I didn't even fuck or get a BJ, I did it to help her and her family. After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme. LOL!
I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return!
Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return!Far from all, but many brazilians are very ungrateful. You can give them a nice gift and not even get a "Thank you" in return.
After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme.I had a bunch of Help-girls as neighbours. Before I left my apartment I asked them if they wanted some leftovers. Bread, eggs, ketchup and mineral water. The girl who picked up the food was grateful and gave a BJ as her way of saying thank you. :D
Member #3439
05-30-11, 09:56
I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return!I understand where you are coming from. But I get the sense that you are a normal guy who comes to Rio for bit of fun. Like any man with balls dreams of doing. And otherwise follows the social mores in day to day life. Now on the other hand, most GDPs are the dregs of Brasilian society who say 'fuck that' and only care about money. So they think you share that greed and would likewise fuck them out of their money (laptop) given the chance. I know GDPs who are fucking around with gringos despite the fact that they are married. Risk divorce. Risk being disowned by their families, risk getting HSV2 or worse and transmitting it to someone who loves them. Because they are greedy hos. And since they are greedy, they assume everyone else is, and just wanting to rip them off. Like you, I want to interact with them on a human level but share your distrust because most of the girls are just transactional. I recommend staying in EUA and touring USA Sex Guide venues at lower cost unless there is a reason to go to BR. Dealing with BR putas vs American swing club or adult bookstore girls is fucked up. On one hand, you have Brasilian girls that think fuck strangers =money and then USA girls that think fuck strangers='Oh. I'm a nasty girl. I like to be fucked like a ho' I trust the EUA girls more, cause they are in for kicks and not for money. Americanas at sex venues are primal, and free fuck you just to feel nasty. Brasilian girls are mainly just greedy, fuck you until your wallet is bare and that is the end of it.
May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.
This is my first time posting on the board. I had not been to Rio in many years – around 15 years. I used to go with friends. Two weeks ago I went by myself. It was a 20 hour flight from San Francisco to Rio but I slept most of the time. I stayed at the Oceano Copacabana hotel.
http://www.oceanohotel.com.br/
It was expensive but in a great location and the staff was friendly.
The first thing I noticed is Rio is much cleaner and has a safer feel about it, especially around Copa Cabana. I think the government is trying to prepare the city for the Olympics. The Favelas are still there but some locals told me that the government is working to try to make them better places to live with education programs, gyms, etc.
Day 1.
I pulled out my paper notes and maps from years ago and headed out to the termas. All three termas I used to visit were closed. Disappointed, I went back to my room. I called for an escort. The girl came late and tried to change the price before we even started so I paid for her cab and sent her on her way. Frustrated, I went out and had a couple of beers at the café around the corner.
Day 2.
Eager to get some action, I woke up early the next day and went to an internet café that I found advertised on a flyer. The internet café is on the 9th floor of a building. I did some searching around on the internet and came up with some terma names.
To pass the afternoon I decided to try my old dependable place – Vila mimosa. For those of you who don't know what Vila Mimosa is, it is a red light district. Around 1000 girls work there every day. When people on the board say VM they mean Vila Mimosa. The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.
Here is a map of the location:
http://www.brazzilforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7959211
Immediately I noticed Vila mimosa has changed as well. Just like in the past, there were loads of girls. And just like in the past, VM has never been an upscale place. Even so, it is much more run down than it used to be. Also the girls look a little rougher than they did in times past. I saw more tattoos and I think the girls are bigger. They look more like gangster girls from MTV videos. I spoke with several girls and even though all were friendly, I did not find any I liked.
In the evening I went to Barbarela.
http://www.telelistas.net/locais/barbarella-boite
+boates+Rio-de-janeiro+rj+145925708.
F-ing expensive. Every price I was quoted was around 200 to 300 US to go back to the hotel for a short session. The quality was not impressive.
I had Monte Carlo on the list.
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/
But I decided to abandon it and re-think my strategy after such a string of failures.
Day 3.
The next morning I went to the internet café again. At the cafe I searched "Rio de janeiro termas" on Google.
This came up at the top of the list:
http://www.adelatours.com
Apparently this company did Terma Tours. I tried to call the number on the website but no answer. I emailed and heard back right away. I booked the Terma tour through email and received an email for the starting location of the tour. I went to the starting location at 9:00 PM. Then the tour guide, code named "Bernie," showed up. As it turns out three other guys that were hanging around the meeting spot were also there for the tour.
We taxied to the first place called Max's. There was a nice selection of around 20 girls and the place was clean. The price was fair. I took a girl to the room and had a good experience. I am not demanding so a good blowjob and passionate pussy sex was enough for me. Next we taxied to another place around ten minutes away. Once again a nice selection of girls and a clean layout. I didn't do anything (too tired) but enjoyed looking. We did one more stop at a place called Leticia massagem. Fifteen girls and all mostly hot. Again, price was good. I did one more session and called it a night.
Day 4.
I went back to Leticia massagem the next night.
The rest of my time was devoted to business.
Food.
One thing that has not changed in Rio is the delicious food. Here are a few places where I ate like a king:
http://www.porcao.com.br
http://www.bobs.com.br/
http://www.carretaochurrascaria.com.br/
Conclusion: Rio is huge and is changing. Vila mimosa is cheap but rough. The higher-end big named termas are too expensive. I didn't know about internationalsexguide. Info before I went.
Do your research first or get a guide or do both. Try to find the smaller establishments in between the name brand tourist traps and the dives. The middle establishments might not have the quantity, but many times they have better quality at a fair price.
due to imported things being so expensive in brazil i always get buddies to bring me stuff. i mean little things you can get in the us for $5 sometimes cost r$50 in brazil. adding to this i always get buddies to stop off in the rio duty free store at the airport and fill their $500 quota with perfumes etc. perfumes that cost $60 make great gifts for women, if you have 3 or 4 regulars a bottle of perfume is a great birthday gift. cheap from our point of view and usually very well appreciated from the girls point of view as it is r$250+ in brazil.
just to clarify the above point. you can legally bring $500 of goods with you and then add another $500 worth of goods purchased from the rio airport duty free store. the airport store sux for everything but alcohol or perfumes etc.
btw, if anyone brings in some stuff for a brazilian and they don't want it i have friends that will take it off your hands for what you paid for it as long as it is wrapped in the original box. i have friends that basically make a living selling imported stuff. these guys live cheap and scrape by by teaching english and selling crap, i guess it beats doing to crappy job in the us!
Does anyone have the original post by Jackson on his GDP gift theory? If you do please post.
The life cycle of the appreciation you will get from a gift. (It went something like this)
When giving a GDP a gift you must be aware of what benefits it will give you. Sure the GDP will be grateful when you give her something. However for every say 8 hours that passes after the gift, the benefits or gratefulness of that gift will halve. So basically once 24 hours passes the benefits you will get from that gift are all but gone!
Now the benefits of that gift doesn't really go up that much for every extra dollar you spend on a GDP. For a gift of say $50 she will be very grateful. If you get her a gift of $500 she will maybe be 20% more grateful, however going back to the life cycle benefit theory, that benefit too will all be gone after about 24 hours. There will be some residual gratefulness, but it is very small.
Hence if you are going to get a special girl a gift, do it. Just remember that the cost of $20 to $50 will get you the same benefit of something really expensive and be prepared for the benefits to rapidly decay. I generally give a $60 perfume for my favourites on their Birthdays Christmas etc. I will give out maybe 10 gifts in the year. I like to do it, it is cheap and any girls I hang out with a pretty cool anyway, the scammers are scanned out long long ago.
PutaPlaya you are right, but in this case, this young lady and I have a history. We have known each other for over 10 years! MANY times I have given her money to help her with her bills or save her from some emergency or another. I didn't even fuck or get a BJ, I did it to help her and her family. After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme. LOL!
I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return! Brother, that is a Red Flag. She should be cut from Team Bravo.
If you give a hen that lays golden eggs to a Brasilian, he / she will wait for an egg, then kill and eat the bird.
Grandnash84
05-30-11, 18:58
May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.
This is my first time posting on the board. I had not been to Rio in many years – around 15 years. I used to go with friends. Two weeks ago I went by myself. It was a 20 hour flight from San Francisco to Rio but I slept most of the time. I stayed at the Oceano Copacabana hotel.
http://www.oceanohotel.com.br/
It was expensive but in a great location and the staff was friendly.
The first thing I noticed is Rio is much cleaner and has a safer feel about it, especially around Copa Cabana. I think the government is trying to prepare the city for the Olympics. The Favelas are still there but some locals told me that the government is working to try to make them better places to live with education programs, gyms, etc.
Day 1.
I pulled out my paper notes and maps from years ago and headed out to the termas. All three termas I used to visit were closed. Disappointed, I went back to my room. I called for an escort. The girl came late and tried to change the price before we even started so I paid for her cab and sent her on her way. Frustrated, I went out and had a couple of beers at the café around the corner.
Day 2.
Eager to get some action, I woke up early the next day and went to an internet café that I found advertised on a flyer. The internet café is on the 9th floor of a building. I did some searching around on the internet and came up with some terma names.
To pass the afternoon I decided to try my old dependable place – Vila mimosa. For those of you who don't know what Vila Mimosa is, it is a red light district. Around 1000 girls work there every day. When people on the board say VM they mean Vila Mimosa. The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.
Here is a map of the location:
http://www.brazzilforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7959211
Immediately I noticed Vila mimosa has changed as well. Just like in the past, there were loads of girls. And just like in the past, VM has never been an upscale place. Even so, it is much more run down than it used to be. Also the girls look a little rougher than they did in times past. I saw more tattoos and I think the girls are bigger. They look more like gangster girls from MTV videos. I spoke with several girls and even though all were friendly, I did not find any I liked.
In the evening I went to Barbarela.
http://www.telelistas.net/locais/barbarella-boite
+boates+Rio-de-janeiro+rj+145925708.
F-ing expensive. Every price I was quoted was around 200 to 300 US to go back to the hotel for a short session. The quality was not impressive.
I had Monte Carlo on the list.
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/
But I decided to abandon it and re-think my strategy after such a string of failures.
Day 3.
The next morning I went to the internet café again. At the cafe I searched "Rio de janeiro termas" on Google.
This came up at the top of the list:
http://www.adelatours.com
Apparently this company did Terma Tours. I tried to call the number on the website but no answer. I emailed and heard back right away. I booked the Terma tour through email and received an email for the starting location of the tour. I went to the starting location at 9:00 PM. Then the tour guide, code named "Bernie," showed up. As it turns out three other guys that were hanging around the meeting spot were also there for the tour.
We taxied to the first place called Max's. There was a nice selection of around 20 girls and the place was clean. The price was fair. I took a girl to the room and had a good experience. I am not demanding so a good blowjob and passionate pussy sex was enough for me. Next we taxied to another place around ten minutes away. Once again a nice selection of girls and a clean layout. I didn't do anything (too tired) but enjoyed looking. We did one more stop at a place called Leticia massagem. Fifteen girls and all mostly hot. Again, price was good. I did one more session and called it a night.
Day 4.
I went back to Leticia massagem the next night.
The rest of my time was devoted to business.
Food.
One thing that has not changed in Rio is the delicious food. Here are a few places where I ate like a king:
http://www.porcao.com.br
http://www.bobs.com.br/
http://www.carretaochurrascaria.com.br/
Conclusion: Rio is huge and is changing. Vila mimosa is cheap but rough. The higher-end big named termas are too expensive. I didn't know about internationalsexguide. Info before I went.
Do your research first or get a guide or do both. Try to find the smaller establishments in between the name brand tourist traps and the dives. The middle establishments might not have the quantity, but many times they have better quality at a fair price. How much was the therma tour? Was it worth it? Would you have rather just used bubba guide?
Thank you for your report, Billn.
The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.
It must be an invisible favela because I never noticed any huge favela next to VM.
Here are a few places where I ate like a king:
http://www.bobs.com.br/
Seriously, you must be joking.
Exec Talent
05-30-11, 21:06
May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.Always good to get different perspectives on Rio. Did you pay the one or four person price for the tour? Looks to be about $100 USD for one and $35 for a group of four. I used to be critical of these "tour" operators but realize that it all depends on your comfort level. If they look out for you and help with translations $100 is a small price to pay for a good experience. Thanks for sharing. Agree with Sperto -- friends don't let friends eat at Bobs.
Ipanema Carioca
05-31-11, 00:15
I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July! I will even bring you the receipt so you will know I am not trying to make any money off of you!" This be*tch had the nerve to get upset and say "I can't believe you do not trust me! I will give you the money once you get here!"
I explained to her that I know at least 8 Americans who had brought things to Rio for the Brasilians to then claim that they didn't have the money or that they wanted a discount. Now mind you, this girl just came back from 3 months in Europe, so I am sure she made a boat load of euros while she was there and here she was complaining about sending me a lousy 500 dollars!
I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative! They are hoes man! She would rather suck your dick all day and swallow 2 buckets of cum for that laptop.
They don't advertise this very much, but it is posted on their website http://www.clubcancun.com.br/home.html (See attachment). Hopefully this gives everyone a better idea of when it will be better to go since the entrance is actually applied towards consumption.
I can never work out the entrance at this place. Sometimes it is R$30, sometimes it is R$50, sometimes includes consumption, sometimes not. Very Brazilian way to price things!
Mr Enternational
05-31-11, 15:53
They are hoes man! She would rather suck your dick all day and swallow 2 buckets of cum for that laptop.You are right about that. If you even have a thought of a GDP willingly shelling out money then you should have your head examined. When she asked him to bring the computer she probably expected that he would say not to worry about the money. Can't blame her for trying. She would have never known had she never tried. I guess the same way that Bubba Boy scans out the scammers, she scans for the suckers.
Eric Cartman
06-01-11, 03:40
It's a shame you didn't go to MC. It's been hopping these days and they have a bunch of new girls, and girls "returning" after dropping off the radar for 2 months after Carnaval.
Barbarella's is a bullshit clip joint that preys on tourists and business travelers. It reminds me of what I hate about the Boates like Bomboa in SP. But it's good for a laugh.
Member #3439
06-01-11, 03:59
They are hoes man! She would rather suck your dick all day and swallow 2 buckets of cum for that laptop.That's what I was getting at. He can take a laptop and take payment in form of ass if she sees the laptop with her own eyes and trusts that he'll actually let her have it. I mean not just her ass. But her friends asses, relatives asses, etc when she calls in favors. I think in the GDP's mind, the sex is free and she is charging you the opportunity cost for her time during normal ho hours. So you could probably pull a tremendous amount of sex during off-hours before finally having to give over that laptop.
May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.
This is my first time posting on the board. I had not been to Rio in many years – around 15 years. I used to go with friends. Two weeks ago I went by myself. It was a 20 hour flight from San Francisco to Rio but I slept most of the time. I stayed at the Oceano Copacabana hotel.
Welcome, and thanks for the unique report. Your style of mongering is really eclectic. It looks like 2 of the 4 days you weren't getting anything, but it sounds like it was an adventure and learning experience anyway. Maybe next time you would have more fun if you went to the Reports of Distinction thread and tried to follow someone's path from there. Then you'd never go a day without some Brasileira fucking and sucking the marrow out of your bone.
i won't miss it (can't miss where you've never been!). i'm just more concerned regarding the larger implications. first help. now this. what's next? per our "resident expert", i hope they do only throw a rug over the parts i like!
rio de janeiro. cris touches up her lipstick in the bar's dingy mirror, getting ready to work the rush hour in vila mimosa, rio's bustling working-class prostitution zone.
as dusk descends, bass-heavy music rattles metal tables on the sidewalk outside the bar, and shirtless men fire up smoky makeshift grills next to coolers of beer. women in little more than thong bikinis or lingerie navigate the cobblestone streets, teetering on stiletto platform heels. leaning against doorways and out of windows, they wait for clients, eyes glazed with boredom. the area is a beloved institution or a blight, depending on whom is asked.
but like so much of this city that officials have deemed marginal, it faces the prospect of being torn down in the name of progress as rio revamps crumbling infrastructure and polishes its image prior to the 2014 world cup and the 2016 olympics.
spelling the possible demise of vila mimosa is a 317-mile (510-kilometer) , high-speed train the government wants to build to link rio to the country's financial capital, sao paulo. the $22 billion project was promised in brazil's olympic proposal, and the government is expected to open bidding to prospective builders july 29. work on the train has not begun, but the prostitutes are already wary. if the current plans move forward, it will pass right through the neighborhood.
this wouldn't be the first time the women have been uprooted and relocated, said cleide de almeida, who grew up in the mangue, the red-light district's original downtown location. one of 10 children of a woman who once cooked for the prostitutes, almeida now heads the sex workers' residents and business association.
prostitutes in rio have witnessed seven government-led attempts to eradicate red-light districts over the past century. two prostitution zones have been razed since 1980, most recently in 1996 to make way for the city's administrative center.
following the evictions, the women were forced to conduct business in the open streets and in cars until they could buy property along the block that makes up the current red-light district: a former no man's land bordered by subway tracks and highways that is now bustling with business.
"there is a whole economy here: boarding houses, beauty parlors, cleaners, restaurants. everybody's saying, 'cleide, if the prostitutes go, can we go with you? '" almeida said. she said workers in the district are "definitely worried" by the prospect of relocation.
almeida already has a new place in mind for vila mimosa if a move is unavoidable. but she's not talking. last time the sex workers moved, she said, residents at their destination were waiting for them and tried to fight them off as they unloaded their moving trucks.
no one returned calls and emails seeking comment from the federal agency in charge of the train project, the agencia nacional de transportes terrestres. spokesmen for the city of rio and the state transportation department said neither was yet involved.
if they must be relocated, the women want something more than just a new site: architect guilherme ripardo, working with the business association, has drawn up plans for a $1. 8 million community center at the new, undisclosed location that would include a health clinic, child care, and professional training in everything from sewing to computer literacy.
its clean, modern lines – blueprints show swooping curves and soft corners – were inspired by the women themselves, ripardo said. the prostitutes nicknamed it "a cidade das meninas," or "the city of girls."
the new center is meant to be functional but also beautiful, a source of pride, ripardo said. sex work happens in rio, he said; it's part of the city's history. it's also within the bounds of law. prostitution is legal in brazil.
"we wanted to show the city that they don't have to hide it; it exists, and they should take care of the people here," he said."the solution isn't to isolate it from the city, but to integrate it."
vila mimosa is now a chaotic jumble of modest homes jammed side by side. old pipes leak sewage, which pools in the cobblestone streets. the lower floors of most houses have been converted to bars and nightclubs where prostitutes meet their clients; the upper floors are a rabbit warren of small, windowless cubicles branching off a narrow corridor where prostitutes take their customers.
sex here is cheap, quick, with no frills: $18 buys 20 minutes in a cement bunk topped by a plastic-covered mattress. there's a bucket of water and toilet paper in each cubicle, and little privacy – the sound of sex fills the bare hallway.
about 2, 000 women work vila mimosa's streets 24 hours a day – some before heading off to a full day of work as maids, cashiers, and manicurists; some after working their day jobs.
to its clients, vila mimosa offers easy sex and cold beer in a convenient location. it's just one subway stop from downtown and a five-minute walk from a station serving dozens of major bus lines. highways connecting the heart of the city to far-flung suburbs crisscross nearby. the mayor's office and brazil's football palace, maracana stadium, are less than a mile away.
"if they make the girls move away from here, vila mimosa will die. the women will lose their income," said andre costa. 38, who works in a bank downtown and is a regular client."people come here to blow off steam after work, to hae a drink. they're not going to get on some bus."
the women know this, so the question of where vila mimosa would go if it were moved is foremost in their minds. they've already seen how multibillion-dollar infrastructure projects meant to streamline rio's intractable traffic have uprooted hundreds of families in rio's slums.
construction has begun on the $618 million transcarioca, an express highway that will link the far west of the city to the international airport to the north, also part of rio's olympic infrastructure package.
nearly 1, 000 families have been evicted, and according to the city government. 3,000 homes will have to be razed before the transcarioca is completed. residents have been offered homes in neighborhoods 40 or 50 miles (65 or 80 kilometers) away – but they say that is an unreasonable distance for those who rely on buses to navigate rio's congested traffic.
both amnesty international and the united nations have called attention to allegations of rights abuses during evictions – residents say they've been roughed up and suffered evictions in the middle of the night.
the prostitute cris, who declined to give her last name so neighbors wouldn't discover her occupation, said a move could kill her income. she's worked the central location five days a week foryears, buying a small house and furnishing it with income from steady clients. at 48, she's not going to start again, she said.
"my clients come here, they know me, and it's safe. i know all these girls," she said."when we leave late at night, there's transportation here, and there's always someone keeping an eye on you."
the government has targeted other sex venues over the past year and a half. first it shut down help, a nightclub and meeting point on copacabana beach where hundreds of prostitutes hooked up with their mostly foreign clientele. city officials said they wanted to turn the property into a museum dedicated to brazilian music.
two small hotels used by prostitutes in a square near the music and nightlife neighborhood of lapa were shuttered this year, ostensibly for nonpayment of taxes. a massage parlor used by sex workers in the city's west side was closed for sanitary reasons, said thaddeus blanchette, an investigator at the federal university of rio de janeiro's macae campus who has researched prostitution and sexual tourism for seven years.
"it's about raising property values, but the big thing is making the city more acceptable to foreigners' eyes," he said."it's taking people who shock foreigners and pushing them out of the way: prostitutes, street vendors, homeless people. they're going to clean up parts and throw a rug over the rest of it."
Tiradentes
06-02-11, 03:18
I won't miss it (can't miss where you've never been!). I'm just more concerned regarding the larger implications. First Help. Now this. What's next? Per our "resident expert", I hope they do only throw a rug over the parts I like!
RIO DE JANEIRO. Cris touches up her lipstick in the bar's dingy mirror, getting ready to work the rush hour in Vila Mimosa, Rio's bustling working-class prostitution zone.
"Five years ago, Rio hired Rudy Giuliani's public relation company's to clean the image of Rio.
As always, Rudy went after the easy targets. What next? LE stings to arrest the johns?
I won't miss it (can't miss where you've never been!). I'm just more concerned regarding the larger implications. First Help. Now this. What's next? Per our "resident expert", I hope they do only throw a rug over the parts I like!If the trem-bala makes it necessary to move VM it's sad. I doubt that the Cidade das Meninas will be the same thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to clean up Copacabana. Maybe closing Balcony and some of the strip-clubs on Prado Junior. Well, that's not a real loss.
There will always be lots of privês in centro. They can be closed down, but will re-open soon again. The privês are anonymous. I doubt the government will feel the need to try to close them.
Member #3439
06-02-11, 06:14
There will always be lots of privês in centro. They can be closed down, but will re-open soon again. The privês are anonymous. I doubt the government will feel the need to try to close them.I think the last large scale Centro sting was July 2009. I wonder what prompted that, and whether it will be escalated to happen more often and on a larger scale in the future. Members here have been arrested before, Geofagus is one. Acenva had a friend who was arrested. I remember someone was bailing out his buddy in 2009 and trying to pickup freshly released, now unemployed GDPs on their way out of the legacia. That was a great move.
Less than 200 years after independence, the local powers-that-be want to capitulate to the values of foreigners again in the interest of making quick money. Some things never change. The worst part is that I don't believe these are values that the foreign tourist really hold as truths, rather it's something they are just told they should believe and they play the part. For example that is unacceptable to be poor, or unacceptable to be a sex-positive person like a GDP. Everyone in my country knows this is bullshit, and the facts of life dictate that any of us could end up poor and selling churros on some street, and would definitely like to have sex freely like hookers. But societal pressure forces us to stay silent as we watch our politicians and NGOs push the farce of these values on everyone else. It's tragic.
By cleaning up, basically they'll lose the many repeat visitors (like us) and maybe gain a few 1 time visitors that come to see Cristo, Sugar Loaf, maybe the Arches and never return. It is a long way from Europe, a long way from US / Canada, Oz and almost totally impractical for most Asians. Most people in the OCED countries aren't willing to spend that much time and money to see the few major tourist attractions of Rio, unless pussy is also involved. I do suspect this is crusader Rudy's doing, and not driven by Brasilians. I only know 1 Brasilian who is digusted by whoring, he defected and is now living in USA. Fitting. The guy tells me not to stay in Copa because it is full of prostitutes, and not to stay in Centro because it is really dangerous after dark. Haha. Full of shit on both accounts. Most clean minded people could walk through Copa and not detect any prostitution. And Centro is less dangerous than most urban areas. I can walk all through Centro at night and nobody bothers me. 100x safer than US urban areas where violence and thievery is like sport. If a foreigner tried the same in typical places like Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago he'd be mugged nightly, maybe shot dead just so some kid could get that kill to gain membership to their gang of choice. Rio is already clean and safe in my opinion, for people who have the common sense to stay out of the hardcore favelas. They don't need Rudy or any other foreign intervention trying to fix what isn't broke, and fucking it up in the process. Preaching to the choir, but sorry I have to vent when I see this stuff!
By cleaning up, basically they'll lose the many repeat visitors (like us) and maybe gain a few 1 time visitors that come to see Cristo, Sugar Loaf, maybe the Arches and never return.What's most important to the tourism in Rio is the national tourism. When it comes to foreign tourism, we mongers just makes out a small part. Loosing foreign monger tourists means almost nothing, except to Balcony, Prado Junior and the Copa-termas etc.
I don't think it necessarily about "What is a great loss" and "What is no big deal / no great loss", but more about "WHERE WILL IT END!"
There will always be lots of privês in centro. They can be closed down, but will re-open soon again. The privês are anonymous. I doubt the government will feel the need to try to close them.Sure "The privês" maybe safe for now. But the way things are progressing, 5 to 7 years from now, who knows?
I don't think it necessarily about "What is a great loss" and "What is no big deal / no great loss", but more about "WHERE WILL IT END!"
Sure "The privês" maybe safe for now. But the way things are progressing. 5 to 7 years from now, who knows? I expect more cleaning up before 2014, but no worries.
Brazilians worship sex. They love to f*k, cheat and visit GP's. There will always be GP's offering their services.
I think closing down sex establishment have a lot of politics involved. It's more like acting than to be meant serious.
If they should close some clubs in Copa only a few thousand gringo mongers and the staff and GP's would suffer. If they would close down privês in Centro, VM etc, maybe hundred of thousands Carioca mongers would suffer and leave thousands of girls unemployed. That would be bad politic.
I expect more cleaning up before 2014, but no worries.
Brazilians worship sex. They love to f*k, cheat and visit GP's. There will always be GP's offering their services.
I think closing down sex establishment have a lot of politics involved. It's more like acting than to be meant serious.
If they should close some clubs in Copa only a few thousand gringo mongers and the staff and GP's would suffer. If they would close down privês in Centro, VM etc, maybe hundred of thousands Carioca mongers would suffer and leave thousands of girls unemployed. That would be bad politic.Totally agree with that.
Whoever knows the brazilians well (why uno es vecino) , knows that this is just another cleaning operation to make Rio look more touristic for the average.
What is more, with the events coming ahead, they plan to get rid of the stereotype sex-tourist. Period. One way of another. So expect more and more pressure in that direction.
The solution? Know more about how the locals behave. Know their places. Don't be visible.
That's the future. Great sex in Brazil won't go away. But you'll have to find it.
...That would be bad politic.Well I guess I'm more of a student of "politicians" than "GDPs", although the two have very similar traits ;-)
Prostitution, GDPs, Privs and other sex establishments have always been "low hanging fruit" for politicians looking to make a name for themselves, bolster their careers, make a splash in the headlines or just simply align themselves with the "moral" and "just" cause.
Bad politics. I doubt that! On the contrary, I think it's always been great politics. So I'll disagree with you on this one.
Well I guess I'm more of a student of "politicians" than "GDPs", although the two have very similar traits.
Prostitution, GDPs, Privs and other sex establishments have always been "low hanging fruit" for politicians looking to make a name for themselves, bolster their careers, make a splash in the headlines or just simply align themselves with the "moral" and "just" cause.
Bad politics. I doubt that! On the contrary, I think it's always been great politics. So I'll disagree with you on this one. You might very well be right. I just think taking away the GP's would be like forbide football in Brazil. Also it would be impossible. As Gaucho9 said "Great sex in Brazil won't go away. But you'll have to find it."
I arrived yesterday and Copa was like every other day, maybe more police.
I went to Balcony and it was crowdy by maybe less quality of girls. I took Diana few meter from the bar and we went to my Hotel. 150R full night but we work for 45 minutes and after she was tired and wanted to sleep. Very nice lady but not very enthusiastic.
Do you know any other bar working as Balcony in Copa? Was Diana a petite blonde "spinner type" girl with small tits?
Ipanema Carioca
06-04-11, 04:30
What's most important to the tourism in Rio is the national tourism. When it comes to foreign tourism, we mongers just makes out a small part. Loosing foreign monger tourists means almost nothing, except to Balcony, Prado Junior and the Copa-termas etc.I was in New York City this past January and spoke to many Brazilians at a function for the Brazil Foundation, and many from Sao Paolo don't go to Rio. THey said they prefer NYC with the weak dollar, but many have been to NYC and never been to Rio. They see cariocas as lazy. SP carries Brazil on its back, while Rio is foreign tourist oriented.
Mongers who make up a small fraction of Brazil's foreign tourism, many frequent Rio. I was in Rio April 2011, one of 15 trips between Mar 2008 and Apr 2011, and I've notice a down trend of mongers. My last trip was with a former Lagoa resident living in Los Angeles who is a great friend of mind, who too me to visit his carioca high school and college friends went to Balcony with me. He was surprised at the prices the girls were asking there. He said gringos have fucked up the gringo gdp game in Copa, but will never fuck it up for Brazilians.
But I think the gdps have fucked themseleves. Many gringos are reading ISG and other sites, to learn the gdp pay scale. It's funny how the gdp will walk from guy to guy at Balcony and get turned down at R$400. I always respond loud,"No R$250-R$400 is too much," so any monger in ear shot next to me will not give that high price.
Many of us are complaining about how Rio has become expensive. Maybe we should feel sorry for the Copa-GP's instead?
Many GP's working in Copabana are of a strange breed. They might live in a favela in Zona Norte. They have almost never visited Copa, except on occassional Domingo when they took the metro to Copa and had a farofa-festa on the beach. They have never had any contact at all with gringos. They have one or two kids. The father has left long ago and pays no support. Life is tough. Their options are few. Honest hard work might not be appealing. Selling their p***y seems more tempting. Working at Vila Mimosa for R$25 is too hard, as the local VM-customers are demanding and wants completa-service. Working in a privê is to much competition.
What to do? They hear a story about a beautiful friend of theirs who was doing tricks in Copa and earned lots of money selling sex to gringos. Earning lots of money with little work sounds interesting. As a result the girls buy themselfes some plastic hair extension and a new dress and head to Copa. They end up in Balcony. Back in Zona Norte they would be happy if a local paid R$30 for a programma. Suddenly they are in heaven as they can charge R$300. Being beautiful isn't necessary. There are always some drunk gringos that get overwhelmed by a smiling girl eager to satisfy their sexual needs. If the girl is smart she realize that she can do four customers per night if she lower her rate to R$150. However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.
Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she excepted. The gringos are few. In the "old days" when the dollar was strong and Help, Meia Pataca and ho-beach were busy, there were lots of gringos. Many were big spenders and payed whatever the girls asked for and even tipped the GP's. Now, with the weak dollar, the gringos think twice before they overpay.
Member #3439
06-04-11, 08:56
However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.
Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she expected. Yes, greed. If they charged R$300 per day and give true bareback GFE everything I'd keep a single girl for up to a week and treat her very well, better than her favelado treats her. Then according to your assumptions, she is making about twice what she'd make in Copa. The first few trips to Rio are like pussy safari. After that, I think some of us want to just enjoy the city and good GFE a few times per day with a strange girl. I've yet to find that opportunity for a steady ho or non-pro, so I spend all my time looking for 2-3 girls / day to bang. The result is that I run myself ragged after ST girls, when all I want to do is relax and get off 2-3 times per day with strange. I enjoy Rio, love the normal people and culture and want to spend all my time in that, but due to the the way the girls operate, I spend most of my time chasing pussy, and go home exhausted from all the long days and nights of aparto-aparto and termas-termas. I'm wondering if people who are already experienced on Sperto's list and Bubbas guide places should branch out, try other place like suburban malls for semi-pros. Think Jakarta, Cebu City style mall mongering.
Where is it possible in Rio for a semi-frequent visitor to pickup semi-pro for extended relax, so you can just enjoy the city without playing the cash games of Zona Sul and Centro hardcores? For people who stay months at a time, or people who come every couple months, or spend inordinate amounts of time on cupid sites, it's easy to find semi or non-pro. But for those who come for a week, annually or bi-annually, what are the best chances (outside Lapa one-night stands) to pick semi-normal girls who just want a little gift and to be treated very well, in exchange for a week or 2 of GFE and some companionship around town? As it stands right now, I've been to at least 80% of the casas ever mentioned here, and speak intermediate Porto conversationally, so thinking that I should step up to the next level and find a girl that is not a pro-ho, but that does what I want and keep her for a week when I visit so I can relax and enjoy Rio. Quality over quantity. I can think of girls at Flavia and Bar 22 that I wanted to keep but didn't, due to thinking about numbers. Wrong approach! Now I spend a lot of time interviewing, trying to find similar real wanton GFE girls, but did not find any on the last trip! I'm sure others are at that point of wanting to step up to the next level, to locate a GFE girl somehow fast and stick with her services, but know she is rare and not sure how how to find her in the first few days of of a trip. Please advise on that.
That there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of GDP's in Brazil. People don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave GDPs any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. Locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as Help (RIP). Remember that place? So, I am going to guess that Balcony IS going to be that next place to shutdown, I am 99. 9% sure it is just a matter of time.
Sao Paolo has its group of places that caters to the foreign and the well healed: Cafe Photo, W Garden, They will gladly take the BR700 to BR800 (If you include the entrance) for a very short time (One pop as mentioned by some of the gals) for the same skanks that people in the know will do for less than half and in a bunch of cases less than 25% in their apartments in Moema, Consolasao, Villa Olimpia or wherever they stay. In their apartments you can stay for one and a half, two hours, get multiple pops and no rush service.
As guests is someone elses' yard, we need to FOLLOW what the locals do. We have introduced some bad habits to some nice local places like tipping at the local Termas, even among the cashiers and doormen, (Yes, I'm guilty of that bad habit too) , but what annoys locals the most is the way us outsiders threw around or used to without thinking of who it will affect later down the road. Now we are all complaining about high prices in Copacabana, Ipanema, Sao Paulo, Fortaleza, Brazil. Geez, fellas, I wonder why?
Many of us are complaining about how Rio has become expensive. Maybe we should feel sorry for the Copa-GP's instead?
Many GP's working in Copabana are of a strange breed. They might live in a favela in Zona Norte. They have almost never visited Copa, except on occassional Domingo when they took the metro to Copa and had a farofa-festa on the beach. They have never had any contact at all with gringos. They have one or two kids. The father has left long ago and pays no support. Life is tough. Their options are few. Honest hard work might not be appealing. Selling their p*why seems more tempting. Working at Vila Mimosa for R$25 is too hard, as the local VM-customers are demanding and wants completa-service. Working in a privê is to much competition.
What to do? They hear a story about a beautiful friend of theirs who was doing tricks in Copa and earned lots of money selling sex to gringos. Earning lots of money with little work sounds interesting. As a result the girls buy themselfes some plastic hair extension and a new dress and head to Copa. They end up in Balcony. Back in Zona Norte they would be happy if a local paid R$30 for a programma. Suddenly they are in heaven as they can charge R$300. Being beautiful isn't necessary. There are always some drunk gringos that get overwhelmed by a smiling girl eager to satisfy their sexual needs. If the girl is smart she realize that she can do four customers per night if she lower her rate to R$150. However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.
Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she excepted. The gringos are few. In the "old days" when the dollar was strong and Help, Meia Pataca and ho-beach were busy, there were lots of gringos. Many were big spenders and payed whatever the girls asked for and even tipped the GP's. Now, with the weak dollar, the gringos think twice before they overpay.
Mr Enternational
06-04-11, 22:29
that there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of gdp's in brazil. people don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave gdps any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as help (rip).
as guests is someone elses' yard, we need to follow what the locals do. we have introduced some bad habits to some nice local places like tipping at the local termas, even among the cashiers and doormen, (yes, i'm guilty of that bad habit too) , but what annoys locals the most is the way us outsiders threw around or used to without thinking of who it will affect later down the road. now we are all complaining about high prices in copacabana, ipanema, sao paulo, fortaleza, brazil. geez, fellas, i wonder why? but this happens all around the world. take a peek in the bangkok and manila threads. you can't tell a grown man what to do with his money. especially the ones with more money than sense. you will get scoffed at in most forums for even mentioning the possiblility of the market being ruined because of guys throwing money around. but as you said, rio stands as a prime example of that exact thing happening. if regular prices are x but you have half the people always willingly giving x+100 then of course they are going to adjust the normal prices to x+100 because that is what many people were paying anyway. maybe the mongers did not feel it much before, but now that the exchange rate has reversed we have in essence fucked ourselves (no pun intended).
Now I spend a lot of time interviewing, trying to find similar real wanton GFE girls, but did not find any on the last trip! I'm sure others are at that point of wanting to step up to the next level, to locate a GFE girl somehow fast and stick with her services, but know she is rare and not sure how how to find her in the first few days of of a trip. Please advise on that.IT isn't about stepping up to the next level. What you need to do is go back to a previous level, retrace your steps back to before you got to the point where what you do is pay girls to have sex with you. Be the person you used to be, and you'll find your 'namorada do programa. ' If you haven't taken care of yourself and you're livin in a distended, out-of-shape body nearing expiration date, at least you're in a country with a lot of poor girls and you can use money to help them fall in love with you (for a week or so). No need to interview, just have fun with them.
Member #3439
06-06-11, 07:56
IT isn't about stepping up to the next level. What you need to do is go back to a previous level, retrace your steps back to before you got to the point where what you do is pay girls to have sex with you. Be the person you used to be, and you'll find your 'namorada do programa. ' If you haven't taken care of yourself and you're livin in a distended, out-of-shape body nearing expiration date, at least you're in a country with a lot of poor girls and you can use money to help them fall in love with you (for a week or so). No need to interview, just have fun with them.Actually I'm probably younger than most people here and in average shape. I have all I need at home for 'free' but enjoy girls of other colors and nationalities, and to want to meet the most whorish types of girls. The more wanton the girl , the more I like her. Which is why I keep screwing that crazy loira Bella, that can be found in Club Florida during their hours or outside Bar Florida on off-hours, on every trip because she is 100% alley cat, out there wandering like an animal in heat, always on booty duty. Girls like that don't want to hook up for LT. The root of the problem is that I don't get to spend more than a week at a time. By the time that I find a girl that does real GFE and willing to do LT, that's like day 5 and almost time to go home. Then I return 6 months later and all the faces have changed, almost all girls vaporize back into the general population within that time, so there is no history to build on. Even termas girls are becoming conservative. In my February field report, I reported that I ended a session early and got a half-refund at Luomo because a girl was cum dodging. That's not the first girl at Luomo who has refused BBBJWCIM. I think CIM is fairly basic service at those prices, so I was not about to tolerate anything less and fought the good fight at the front desk, in a polite manner of course. These people know that gringos talk amongst ourselves, and make allowances so we don't trash-talk them too much. I can say that Luomo has some girls that don't meet expectations, but they will make concessions for another girl or a partial refund if you are unsatisfied. That said, I've only gone there on Sundays because Centro is shutdown, and will try Balcony the next time for my Sunday action.
As for a time when I didn't pay for it...hmm. I am of the mindset that pussy is never free. I don't remember a time when a girl didn't want some kind of compensation. Usually dinner, movies, something like that. The only difference between a date, GF, or wife and and the WG is that the WG takes her cash directly whereas the others take their compensation in goods or services. So technically, it's free for me at home. But the costs are indirect. I'd like to hear about sometime when a guy didn't have to compensate a girl. Maintaining a GF or wife costs more than hiring WG's. Cost of drinks at bars to pick up freebies can be high at home, more than a BR WG. The guys who are getting freebies in BR are typically shelling out for Victoria's Secret, Porcao dinners, etc. In my country, even at gangbangs at ABS or Swing Clubs, the girl does her thing free, cause she's thinks that she's being badass and giving a bunch of cocks (that's us, 'cocks') shelter under her black wings, but it's still not free cause the venue makes sure that you have to pay an entrance fee to play. Even if the girl doesn't receive compensation, someone is always standing in the middle to make money off her pussy somehow. If anyone can report totally free sex without some kind of expense, PM me with that story.
That there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of GDP's in Brazil. People don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave GDPs any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. Locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as Help (RIP). Remember that place? So, I am going to guess that Balcony IS going to be that next place to shutdown, I am 99. 9% sure it is just a matter of time.
I agree with you on paying the lowest rate possible. But these Zona Sul places are tourist traps and local mongers don't go to those places anyway, They hang out in Centro, Largo do Machado, Tijuca. These casas are flat price, not negotiable. The prices posted on the sites are the same as reported on GPguia and here. When you go there , you wait behind local mongers, because everyone is on equal footing.
I have all I need at home for 'free' .You have all the girls you want at home and you realize that you've got to pick up the tabs along the way. So, what's the problem? Think women aren't the same the world over? You only get what you play for.
Where is it possible in Rio for a semi-frequent visitor to pickup semi-pro for extended relax, so you can just enjoy the city without playing the cash games of Zona Sul and Centro hardcores? For people who stay months at a time, or people who come every couple months, or spend inordinate amounts of time on cupid sites, it's easy to find semi or non-pro. But for those who come for a week, annually or bi-annually, what are the best chances (outside Lapa one-night stands) to pick semi-normal girls who just want a little gift and to be treated very well, in exchange for a week or 2 of GFE and some companionship around town? .My frequency of trips and duration are similar to yours. 2X a year each 10 days.
From 2004 to 2009 I used match. Com by signing up a few months before a trip and scanning the women in Rio and contacting many of them. Used instant messenger to communicate with them and right before I was ready to leave for my trip I usually narrowed down my choices to 10 women.
When I arrived I tried to pick my favorites first asking them to go out on my first night and work my way through the list. Usually if my first choice was a hit I would ask them out again and score or keep moving down the list. I have to say I always met nice women who were open to having sex. Of course I met some who didn't but for the most part I scored more than I didn't.
I haven't done it in a couple of years I guess the novelty wore off and it can be a lot of work. Actually the last girl I met was really nice and I didn't have sex with her but later we planned to go to Buzios for a week but she told me she is serious and wants to get married, no bull shit. I cancelled the trip and instead went to Help every night. I haven't done it since. But when I did do it overall I had a great time and it was worth the effort but sometimes you find yourself going all over town meeting these girls and taking them out.
One girl I met in 2004 told me she was looking for only a serious relationship, we chatted online for 3 years before I met her finally she just said to me we are friends and I'll fuck you just for fun, she was the first girl who brought me to the swing club in Rio.
Same with another girl I met online in 2005, went to dinner with her but didn't see her again until 2009 when I asked her online if she had anything to drink in her apt and she said Champagne, I said can I come over, she said sure, I drank her whole bottle of Champagne and nailed her twice then went to Help and picked up another one.
I had a fun time doing it but been there done that, maybe I'll try it again some day when I get bored with what I'm doing now.
I have a friend who used to work in a strip club. We have never met but just been introduced by a friend here on ISG. I was going to go and visit and 6 months ago she was still available.
She's had a baby about a year ago or more. The guy is older than her. She's been working as a beauty model shooting pictures. So 6 months ago she was still working. In March she married. I asked her recently and she said that she is no longer working.
Just like to ask if this is common? And can I expect her to be available in the future? I heard that once a girl has worked, she will always be like this even after marriage. Whats your opinions on this?
I intend to keep in touch wiht her in case she becomes available again?
I heard that once a girl has worked, she will always be like this even after marriage. Whats your opinions on this?This is just a myth. Most girls, when they meet a guy will just disappear never to be heard from again. Most will cease to have any contact with all of their clients. Most just want to forget that they ever worked.
A small percentage of them will keep seeing clients, mainly the really hardcore group. A slighter higher number will keep in contact with some of their ex clients. Again mainly the harder core group that lived in Copa. Most of the girls that I tend to meet these days are from centro and are just girls from poor backgrounds with semi normal lives, when these girls meet a guy they really disappear back to the area they came from and really want to forget that they ever worked.
The matter of if they will reappear is a different subject. Probably greater than half of all marriages will fail. They may or not reappear in the future.
When you say a percentage will keep in touch with ex-clients, you don't mean that they will sleep with them for money right? Keeping in touch just means keeping in touch and nothing else.
This girl had a baby last September. She was still working in January. I think she got married in March. And now 6 months later she's not working. She is now working in a modelling agency.
This is just a myth. Most girls, when they meet a guy will just disappear never to be heard from again. Most will cease to have any contact with all of their clients. Most just want to forget that they ever worked.
A small percentage of them will keep seeing clients, mainly the really hardcore group. A slighter higher number will keep in contact with some of their ex clients. Again mainly the harder core group that lived in Copa. Most of the girls that I tend to meet these days are from centro and are just girls from poor backgrounds with semi normal lives, when these girls meet a guy they really disappear back to the area they came from and really want to forget that they ever worked.
The matter of if they will reappear is a different subject. Probably greater than half of all marriages will fail. They may or not reappear in the future.
Hi,
I was in Rio in March (sorry for late report, and sorry for my english, I'm french)
I would to thanks sexmachine (ISG member) to introduce me in great places! Weather was terrible! 10 days of syn with 30-40 °C every days!
The first day, we go to Monte Carlo. Very nice place, juste a little tiny and music a little bit too loud. First contact with girls : Waoooow yes! I'm in Brazil! Around 12 girls and 8 very beautiful (medium and fine ass, and 1 or 2 big ass). During my friend go for a shower (he comes back from 4x4) , I have wait her in a part of Monte Carlo. I don't know where it was, but there is a black girl and a maid. The black girl with street dress (really beautiful one) start to speak me (she speaks english) and ask me question : Name? From? First time? And say to me she find me really beautiful! I'm surprised because I see her with street dress, so I ask to her if she works her? She responds me yes, but start later and ask me if I can wait for her in the main place were girls are.
I think it was it's first day at MC (but not in termas for sure.) and wait for boss or contract? I don't know.
I have wait her for 45 min, but impossible to wait more time with all these looking for me, come to speak, come to kiss me, and someones put their tongue everywhere around my lips.
First I was shy, because I only know termas of Europe (Spain, Germany.) and the rules are : if you touch the girls, you start the sessions.
My friend explain me you can touch girls everywhere, French kiss, or kiss tits, and not engage the session and choose another one! WOOOOW it's so goood! He explains me brazilian girls are really different than europe. They like their jobs, like give and receive pleasure!
For my first session, I would choose a typical brazilian bunda, but I was affraid of that! And after reflexion I choose a fine ass blond girl. (don't remember his name but his photo is on the gallery post by another member) very intelligent (speaks english and spanish very good). Session was ok. No anal but very tight pussy and she speaks me in porto during I fuck her : Gostoso. Don't know other words. Very GFE, and for sure if I would to ask her to take a drinks and see her in another place, she will be ok.
When I come back to the place, I go to TV saloon to follow amical football (France. Brazil). We win, but brazil team is compose with only rookies (no famous player as neymar, robinho, alves.). I wome back to see if there is new girls and I can notice black brazilian girls are the most HOT! One start to speak me (but she only speak portuguese) and she take my cock and after excite me, and look for size, I can understand : good big size but no problem I can take all on my mouth. She starts to simulate an orgasm and show me she would like have my sperm everywhere! She start to take out one of this tits of his bra and invite me to lick it!
The little young and shy man I'm is completely terrified! Wooow I have ear many things about brazilian girls. But now, these girls come from another planet!
After she returns, and rub his ass on my cock!
I decide to not continue because I want keep my money for others termas.
Evening, we go to Balcony. 20 girls in first, and 40/60 girls at least. Not ugly girls, but only 10/15% very beautiful. Termas girls are most beautiful. We take a drink and we are laughing about a scene : Two girls hunting together when they see 2 guys alone. Each time after 20/25 minutes of speaking, guys leave, and they dispute themselves about the strategy to convince the guys to spent sex time with her!
During this time I have observe the scene. I can notice there is many shark girls, and I think it's probably not a good idea to go with her.
Another day (I don't remember because I don't go termas every day) , we go to Luomo. Happily my friend was here, because if you don't look up the head you can see write Luomo and you don't find it very easy. Luomo is a little more little than MC, but more lights. Girls are more tanned than MC. No white girls, only black, chocolate or caramel body color. I remember black girl of MC = black girls most HOT. I can verify it! After 15 minutes, DJ lance Funk and all girls wake up and go to do sexy funk dance and they shake their bunda. That's really excite me! And again I have the impression to be on another planete.
My friends present me some girls but not really like. It's little and only 3/4 clients for 10/15 girls. So all girls free look at me and that disturb me, because I know if I look one of them more of 5 sec she comes to me.
But after, I locate one with milk chocolate color body, with red hair color (not light red as a junkie, but some hair dark red. She is very funny, and start to french kiss me, and touch me up in first and the hand come more and more down. She speaks only porto but she is really fresh and I like her. Before session I start to congratulate her about how she dances funk, their beautiful eyes, body. She seems to like me and I try to explain to her I would offer a drink or restaurant and always before session. She is ok but she says to me she finish work late, and I must wait for her. I say I know and no problem for wait. So she stays very long time with me (speak, kiss, touch, learn me funk.) without to ask to go for session! Not very GFE, but Extra GFE!
So go session for thanks her and it was amazing! No anal but she make me love with many passion!
I see her later day, to go beach, shopping and little sex. But can't all the time, because as you know guys, they must do 5 or 6 days per week on terma.
During time to Luomo, we can see a black girls name Cacau do a show. She was completely nude and dance. She takes one client, put him on a seat and strat a lap dance. Wooow!
Another day, go to 4x4. This terma is big, many girls after 4 PM and every type you want (fine to XXL ass, white to black, morena, ruivas, loiras, tall, little, * face or pretty face.).4x4 is good when you really don't know which type of girl you want or if you want to test all types.
After few minutes, a girl take my arm and bring me near of her. This is Karina, blond, beautiful brazilian ass (not big, but quite big) Start kiss me very hot, grab my dick. So I think she's the good one for very hot session as porno movies and I ask her anal? Yes completo she says to me. I say to her I like have preliminary time before session. She takes me and invite me to come and the another part of 4x4. Only one girl her relax, no music, we are alone and we do very deep french kiss for long minutes. I can't anymore respire or speak. His tongue is completely in my mouth and ready to go on my throath.
The session was very hot. For the anal I would be sweet and take time. But she decides to take my cock and put it entierely and directly deep in her ass and ask me to fuck her very hard. With that, impossible to retain. I come in 3/4 minutes in his ass. I ask her for another shot, no problem, suck me, put me another condom and go fuck deep in her ass again. I fuck her so hard, the sound of the slap on my body in his ass is really loud. I have sentiment to abuse to do that, but she motives me to continue (gostoso.) Waooow this session was amazing!
Others days I have try Balcony many times, but nothing really good.
Next time I would try casas de massagem or cheap termas as sperto speaking on his guide. I'm surprise to see one casa name hollywood for 1 pop / 20 R and no limit time. Incredible?
Next time, I will don't visit touristic places so I hope to try many others places or stay more in Centro for try to meet non working girls.
Parity Reals / Euros is good and certainly better than Real / US dollars, but it was certainly better there is 4/5 years and must be more fun to our activities
Hope to go back to Rio soon. !
Every time the board devolves into these drama-filled posts I am left wondering what happened to helpful, updated reviews. /crankyYou have to remember, the average monger can't afford to go to Rio 6 times a year anymore! I used to fly to Rio for 3 day weekends, thats a thing of the past. Its up the guys who live in Rio to supply us with new updated info because guys like me who go twice a year, don't have the inside scoop.
Eric Cartman
06-12-11, 20:31
You have to remember, the average monger can't afford to go to Rio 6 times a year anymore! I used to fly to Rio for 3 day weekends, thats a thing of the past. Its up the guys who live in Rio to supply us with new updated info because guys like me who go twice a year, don't have the inside scoop.I agree. I just get tired of the non-review posts (like this one I guess). I post reviews when I have something new to report.
For the record, I would say that 65 appears to have gotten a decent new crop of girls in the last 3-4 weeks. 502 got new ones but no new stone-cold hotties. Luomo remains weak and MC remains fairly energetic and full of talent. I have only 2nd-hand info on Centaurus. A friend went there and liked the talent, but it's R$440 for 40 mins. R$120 of that is entrada, damn. I went to Cancun about 3 weeks ago and it was totally dead. All of this is consistent with my previous posts.
Week just gone by went to T65, $420 for the hour with 2 beers and 2 juices. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable.
Went to one of the 4 bigs casas at Tujuca, R$80 for the hour. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable.
Both girls are about the same as far as attractiveness, but do everything that I want and both will come over for freebies. Lets do the maths. Is T65 5. 25 x better than Tijuca? IMHO both experiences were exactly the same. EXACTLY! Think I will spend more time out at Tijuca this week!
Sexual Healing
06-13-11, 13:35
Hi Folks!
I'm posting this one in the Rio section (although a general inquiry) because it is the most visited thread, maybe you can tell me if you like to talk about this here or direct me to other sections.
I've been spending holidays of my last two years during wintertime in Pattaya – Thailand.
Which is good and probably still the best value in mongering around. Yet, I got a little fed-up of tiny shy bar girls and I would like to have some hardcore experience with hot Brazilans (cim and anal, both quite rare with cute Thais).
So I am starting gathering information in order to figure out if I can afford it or not. My issue is mainly on budget plan, indeed.
I am addressing this to those who had experience in Pattaya as reference to compare the two and to all familiar with price and rates in Brazil in general.
Talking about numbers, over the last two years I had 2-weeks holiday each time with a budget of roughly 1. 700 euros total, including plane, hotel, shopping and above all sex (1 session per day with 1 girl, generally staying overnight, but sometimes also short time). All without splashing cash in luxury, but without even saving on fun, if you know what I mean.
Now, I know Rio is getting more and more expensive (last year on the Pattaya thread I was reading about people who were considering to make the opposite move, I. E. From Brazil to Thailand, because of that) , but maybe it depends also on how long your holiday lasts and how many sessions per day you have.
I think I could stretch my budget to 2. 000 euros and cut-off here and there, but I think 7/8 sessions spread on 12 day is the minimum I can do to make sense to the journey.
Second issue is about the Brazilian system. Which chance do I have to pick up a beauty, not looking macho, not speaking Portuguese and not even being a disco animal? In other words, I would turn mainly to pros, so which options do I have: is there anything similar to bar girls or go-gos there, or is it all either free-lancers or thermas? Is it possible to take girls into your hotel room without any problem or extra-charge?
Also, I would appreciate a note about safety, because different from me my friends are Pattaya-aficionados I don't think I will ever convince them to make the change, so that I would be travelling alone.
Ok, I guess you got the picture now. Of course, I also am quite flexible to track a different destination than Rio, as long as I am not ending in the middle of nowhere banging a black fat one past her 30s.
Thanks so much to anybody who answer this, guys!
P. S. If you prefer, you can also pm me.
Hi Folks!
Talking about numbers, over the last two years I had 2-weeks holiday each time with a budget of roughly 1. 700 euros total, including plane, hotel, shopping and above all sex (1 session per day with 1 girl, generally staying overnight, but sometimes also short time). All without splashing cash in luxury, but without even saving on fun, if you know what I mean.
I think I could stretch my budget to 2. 000 euros and cut-off here and there, but I think 7/8 sessions spread on 12 day is the minimum I can do to make sense to the journey.
Everybody does Rio differently, you can get a lot of different opinions on this which is good:
Lets do the math in dollars.
12 days?
2, 800 dollars. minus Airfare of 1, 000 = 1, 800 dollars. minus Lodging of 1, 200 dollars = 600 dollars.
Leaves you 600 dollars for 12 days thats $50 a day for food, booze and pussy. You can't do it.
If it was me I would shorten my stay to 7 days, you would end up with $1, 100 dollars or $157 a day,
2, 800 dollars. minus Airfare of 1, 000 = 1, 800 dollars. minus Lodging of 700 dollars = 1, 100 dollars. $157 a day
For food if you eat very cheaply you can use $57 a day and that leaves you $100 a day for pussy.
In order to stretch you money I would recommend the casas in Centro, there are many posts here about them, they are not all nighters. 1/2 hour sessions I believe.
Mr Enternational
06-13-11, 21:44
I've been spending holidays of my last two years during wintertime in Pattaya – Thailand. Which is good and probably still the best value in mongering around. Yet, I got a little fed-up of tiny shy bar girls and I would like to have some hardcore experience with hot Brazilans (cim and anal, both quite rare with cute Thais).I know you are not a party animal but you should try some of the discos. You don't have to pay to get in. You don't have to stay and party. Just go see a girl you like and ask her to come back with you. You don't have to be in there any more than 30 minutes. I can't see myself paying a bar for a girl to leave work. The only time I did a bar girl was when she came to see me after work. And like you said it was the shy shit. I can't take that so I only deal with disco girls for Long Time and Beach Road girls for Short Time.
I am addressing this to those who had experience in Pattaya as reference to compare the two and to all familiar with price and rates in Brazil in general. Talking about numbers, over the last two years I had 2-weeks holiday each time with a budget of roughly 1. 700 euros total, including plane, hotel, shopping and above all sex (1 session per day with 1 girl, generally staying overnight, but sometimes also short time). All without splashing cash in luxury, but without even saving on fun, if you know what I mean.
Week just gone by went to T65, $420 for the hour with 2 beers and 2 juices. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable.
Went to one of the 4 bigs casas at Tujuca, R$80 for the hour. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable. Referencing Bubba's fresh off the press post you can see that he paid R$420 for a 60 minute session with 4 drinks included in a place that would be the same as a soapie without the big bathtub and suds. This is equivalent to 8,081 baht, whereas a 90 minute soapie session will cost you 1,600 baht (R$83) on the low end and 2,500 baht (R$129) on the high end.
To be fair, you can see that he did another session for R$80 or 1,539 baht for 60 minutes in a place that would be the same as going to a Pattaya massage parlor and getting extras. I did manage to get extras in a massage parlor a couple of weeks ago for 500 baht (R$26) but it was more like 15 minutes and quiet because as you know other normal patrons are sharing the same room which is divided with curtains.
In Rio a Balcony freelancer will start off at R$400 (7,696 baht) for the night although you may be able to talk her down some. In the discos in Pattaya standard pricing for an all-nighter is 1, 000 baht (R$51).
Now, I know Rio is getting more and more expensive (last year on the Pattaya thread I was reading about people who were considering to make the opposite move, I. E. From Brazil to Thailand, because of that) , but maybe it depends also on how long your holiday lasts and how many sessions per day you have.Brazil has become very expensive and that is why I no longer frequent the country. As you can see from Sangue's explanation a place to stay will cost you at least US$100/day. You can get an equivalent place in Pattaya for US$20/day. My studio apartment in Pattaya is $150 for the whole month with free wifi + electric and water which usually run me an extra $17 if I run the air conditioning a lot. One thing Sangue did not mention was transportation throughout the city. From the airport to Copacabana alone a taxi will cost you at least R$70 (1,346 baht) for the 30 minute ride. In Thailand from the Bangkok airport to Pattaya an hour and a half away will only cost you 1000 baht + 60 for tolls (R$55).
I would be the first person to tell you to try a new place if you have not been in order for you to diversify your portfolio. But in this case it would not be economical for you to choose Rio over Pattaya. In addition I don't think you will have as much fun in Rio because it is no longer as "point-and-click" as it was in the days of Help and Ho Beach; whereas in Pattaya all you have to do is literally walk outside of any given hotel or apartment and there is P4P pussy all around you. For Rio you will have to put a lot of effort into researching the scence and looking at maps to learn your way around in order to find each venue. In Pattaya all you have to do is show up.
As a follow up to my previous post. Both girls will do anything, ANAL, CIM and pretty much anything else. This is one of the benefits of having regulars at certain places. You can get pretty much any service from them you want and I do mean anything!
Rio Me Ever
06-14-11, 02:12
With all due respect gentlemen.
You are talking in comparison of prices of Rio girls vs Thailand girls.
In my humble opinion there is no comparison between the two.
There is nothing like a garota for stamina, technique, GFE and of course, those amazing curves.
I would pay 10 times more for a garota than a non-assed, skinny, cookie cutter copy, Thai girl.
In my humble opinion
Viaggiatoro
06-14-11, 03:30
In Rio a Balcony freelancer will start off at R$400 (7,696 baht) for the night although you may be able to talk her down some. In the discos in Pattaya standard pricing for an all-nighter is 1, 000 baht (R$51).I was there in April, balcony girls started at R150, came down to R100 in some cases, for two hours. Hot ones by the way. Was quoted not much more for the night, but what for, to sleep? Can always call another girl in the a. M, the call girls are reasonably priced. Though I will agree, overall it was much more then I thought Brazil would be, the service was great, and the dollar is so weak you can't expect to get much more for it, at least until the next election hopefully!
For food if you eat very cheaply you can use $57 a dayHoly crap SB! Where are you eating? Rio is expensive but you can eat for a lot less than $57 a day. You can eat decent food for a lot less than 57 reals a day even in Copacabana.
Hi Folks!
I'm posting this one in the Rio section (although a general inquiry) because it is the most visited thread, maybe you can tell me if you like to talk about this here or direct me to other sections. Rio is probably the best place to go for a Brazilian rookie. Other cities are cheaper (except Sao Paulo) but will not have the P4P infrastructure that Rio has.
I've been spending holidays of my last two years during wintertime in Pattaya – Thailand.
Which is good and probably still the best value in mongering around. Yet, I got a little fed-up of tiny shy bar girls and I would like to have some hardcore experience with hot Brazilans (cim and anal, both quite rare with cute Thais). If you are sick of tiny, shy girls Rio can suit you well. There are many tall girls and they pride themselves on having thick ass. Look at how Brazileiras pose for pictures. The always try to get there butt into the picture. You will find all shades from white to dark black but most will be a pleasing light brown. Almost all will be beautiful and some will have done porn or been in Playboy before you get to them. And they are not at all shy but tigressas in bed. Almost all will give skilled BBBJ and will pound away in different positions daring you to make them come. They seem to have ESP at knowing what you want.
In some ways you will find Rio easier than Pattaya, some ways more difficult. The main difficulty is that Rio is a real city with normal businesses and it happens to have good P4P spread throughout the city. You will not find anything like Walking Street or even Beach Road with bars stacked on top of each other (except maybe Vila Mimosa). I recommend that at least at first you stick to termas. You probably are not crossing an ocean and spending real money on airfare and hotel to have quick sex in a grimy room. Some members here have great experiences in VM and the casa but if all you wanted to do was save money you could go to Thailand or even stay in Europe. I recommend getting some quality GFE and PSE in the Rio termas.
Once you find them the termas will be easier to have a good time in than the Pattaya gogos. Being turned down in one is almost unheard of. From the second you decide to engage a girl it will be like she has had a crush on you for years and just wants to please you. The termas are a lot like Devil's Den but there is no set menu or line-up and you have a lot of time for foreplay before you go to the room. During this before time is when you can negociate what you will expect in the room (anal, CIM, etc). Not all of the girls will do these things but if you ask and they do not want to they will be happy to point out a friend that will. There is also less possessiveness than in a gogo. If you go with a girl more than once she will often suggest friends for you to take the next time. There are no mamasans so you will have to do some asking directly but you have time to do so. On my first trip to Rio I had a girl introduce herself to me as,"Fuck in ass, come in mouth." Naturally I obliged.
I recommend trying to get an apartment in Copacabana near Siquera Campos. This will give you close access to the termas L'uomo and Monte Carlo and close access to the metro which will take you downtown to 4x4. There are other places you can go but honestly on a two week trip you will not need to go anywhere else. I doubt that even if you stayed in just one of those clubs you would have enough time to get to all of the girls you wanted.
So I am starting gathering information in order to figure out if I can afford it or not. My issue is mainly on budget plan, indeed.Here is where the Rio trip gets problematic.
I am addressing this to those who had experience in Pattaya as reference to compare the two and to all familiar with price and rates in Brazil in general.
Talking about numbers, over the last two years I had 2-weeks holiday each time with a budget of roughly 1. 700 euros total, including plane, hotel, shopping and above all sex (1 session per day with 1 girl, generally staying overnight, but sometimes also short time). All without splashing cash in luxury, but without even saving on fun, if you know what I mean. When you say only one session per day do you mean you only want to have sex once per day? If so your budget issues will not be as bad in Rio as if you wanted to have sex 2-3 times per day. In Thailand if you get a girl overnight you can have sex 2-3 times for your barfine and tip. This will be the same way in Rio if you get freelancer from Balcony. However, if your MO is only once per day you can have a great time in the termas. Although tragically the girls do not wear the minskirts with no underwear like in Pats they typically wear bikinis or lingerie. They are not on stage but mingling so you can grab quite a lot of ass while you are walking around. You can draw out the time before the session and usually after the girl will come back and cuddle with you a bit. Many times I have stayed in the termas all day until closing and then did not need or want a girl to come home with me. Of course I would usually session 2-4 times in that day so YMMV. Although I am a little bit out of date with the prices I believe the Copacabana termas price for entrance+40 minute session is about R$300 or $180 or E$130. 4x4 in centro will be slightly cheaper. There are also some discounts to be had by showing up early (L'uomo) or by taking a session early (4x4) but the selection will not be as good.
Now, I know Rio is getting more and more expensive (last year on the Pattaya thread I was reading about people who were considering to make the opposite move, I. E. From Brazil to Thailand, because of that) , but maybe it depends also on how long your holiday lasts and how many sessions per day you have.
I think I could stretch my budget to 2. 000 euros and cut-off here and there, but I think 7/8 sessions spread on 12 day is the minimum I can do to make sense to the journey. 7/8 sessions over 12 days is not that much. You can save about 20 euros per session at 4x4 by taking a girl before 5PM so you can get these sessions in at a quality place for about 110 euros. 110 x 8 = 880 so let's say 900. I do not know where you are coming from but let's assume 800 euros for air. That only leaves 300 for food and housing. Unless you stayed in a hostel and ate noodles you probably could not swing that but there are budget apartments for about 70 euro per night and you can eat for around 15 euros if you are a light eater and buy your drinks and snacks at the supermarket.
Second issue is about the Brazilian system. Which chance do I have to pick up a beauty, not looking macho, not speaking Portuguese and not even being a disco animal? In other words, I would turn mainly to pros, so which options do I have: is there anything similar to bar girls or go-gos there, or is it all either free-lancers or thermas? Is it possible to take girls into your hotel room without any problem or extra-charge?Apartments will be no problem. Some hotels charge exhorbitant joiner fees.
Also, I would appreciate a note about safety, because different from me my friends are Pattaya-aficionados I don't think I will ever convince them to make the change, so that I would be travelling alone.Don't carry more money than you need to spend and don't stumble around drunk. If you are mugged give up the cash and run away. I have walked all over Copacabana and Centro at all hours and never had any issues except with crooked cab drivers and shit flingers. Things do happen though but rest assured that a tourist getting killed is rare enough to make the news.
Ok, I guess you got the picture now. Of course, I also am quite flexible to track a different destination than Rio, as long as I am not ending in the middle of nowhere banging a black fat one past her 30s.
Thanks so much to anybody who answer this, guys!
P. S. If you prefer, you can also pm me. I would stick to Rio. It is not Thailand but it has its own unique charm. It will cost you more than Pattaya but it is worth checking out once just to see what you have been missing.
If you are really on a tight budget and only need one session per day or two agencies are a viable option. You should get 2 hours for about R$160 (E$70) including cab fare. These girls can be great but obviously you have to have a little bit of luck since you will not get to interview them before they come over.
I think I could stretch my budget to 2. 000 euros and cut-off here and there, but I think 7/8 sessions spread on 12 day is the minimum I can do to make sense to the journey.Your budget is 2000 Euro.
Your ticket will cost you about 800 Euro, that leaves you with 1200 Euro, equivalent with R$ 2760. With some luck or good contacts you can get a nice apartment in Copacabana at the price of roughly R$80/day. 12 days will cost you R$960. Money for eating on cheap places, drinks, some sight-seeing, transports etc, lets say R$90/day if you do it the cheap way. This will cost you R$1080. Eight short-time (30 minutes) sessions at Centro privês will cost about R$50/session, which makes a total of R$400. That leaves you with R$320.
Conclusion: Yes, it's possible to do it with your budget. However, your budget can break very easily. Maybe you'll want to visit a terma, session with Balcony girls, go clubbing, eat at Porcão, invite a girl for a nice dinner etc? Maybe you'll end up paying much more for lodging? There is also a risk that you, as a first-time visitor might get rip-offed somehow. It's not fun going on a holiday with such a tight budget. I think you should add 1000 Euro on your budget, or stay at home.
Ipanema Carioca
06-14-11, 07:16
I was there in April, balcony girls started at R150, came down to R100 in some cases, for two hours. Hot ones by the way. Was quoted not much more for the night, but what for, to sleep? Can always call another girl in the a. M, the call girls are reasonably priced. Though I will agree, overall it was much more then I thought Brazil would be, the service was great, and the dollar is so weak you can't expect to get much more for it, at least until the next election hopefully!Girls still can be had in Copa for $150 reais. I was there April this year. I was in Copa 5 times in 2010 and 5 times in 2009 and 2 x in 2008, and I've never paid more than $150-200 reais for a Copa girl. In 2009 I took 2 girls cousins in for $50 reais a piece, and after I banged them they put their party clothes and went to Help. I am still friends with them on Orkut.
Sexual Healing
06-14-11, 11:35
Hey Mr Enternational and Edward M, I remeber you from the Thai Forum, how are you guys?
Thank you for detailled replies and to all other users who are joining this topic.
Remember, yet, I entitled this "Rio vs Rest of Brazil" NOT "Rio vs Pattaya".
I know there is no contest between Rio and Patts in therms of hot girls, as there is no contest between Patts and Rio in terms of costs.
So, please forget this and try to help on this other here.
Let's assume that I would drop Thai this year and choose Brazil.
Let's assume also I cannot either blow my budget or shorten my holiday (not worth 1 week only).
This bring us to sad one conclusion for me: aovid Rio.
Your maths lead me to this.
One thing is not throwing money away, another one is worrying about budget.
Can't do that. Can't choose the cheapest accomodation, cheapest food, cheapest girls. See'mon it's holiday!
STILL, I am asking if I can turn anywhere else. I know Rio is unique, but also Brazil is big.
Is there any other city where I can find what Rio offers on a smaller scale?
I mean, I agree with you saying that termas may be ideal for a Brazialin rookie like me.
I also think it is the best way for me to enjoy sex with a pro. It sounds similar to fkk in Germany and I love it.
I love hanging around relaxing for a while, have eye contact with girls, a little chat and a flirt with the one I'm choosing and then straight to action.
I mean, I don't really need to sit on my ass with a beer and a lap dance to turn me on, I don't need to party in disco, I don't need to stroll up and down a walking street all night to catch a cuty in the crowd and I don't even need the girl staying for the night for multiple sessions.
One is fine. I always choose quality over quantity. That's why I'm sick of Pattaya, by yhe way.
My style is more like: day at the beach, evening out for a drink and a bite. 1 session with a garota in termas after dinner, one last drink then I'm happy for the rest of the night and ready to go to sleep like a baby. That's me.
NOW, what I am asking is: are termas only in Rio? Is this option available in a city on the coast other than Rio, where life can be cheaper?
No termas in Fortaleza, Recife, or Salvador?
With 2800 dollars I would cut the trip to 5 days. Its better to blow it all in 5 then be a miser over 10 days.
I will be doing a report on my latest Rio rampage soon. The thing is, I fucked so many pretty tutes in the ass that, following my own advice, I think it would be more appropriate for me to post in the "anal connoisseurs" section versus here. I just wanted to alert you Rio lovers to look for it since that section is not the first place people would look to read about the "marvelous city". There will be plenty of pictures plus some commentary on the current scene, focusing mainly on the termas.
Holy crap SB! Where are you eating? Rio is expensive but you can eat for a lot less than $57 a day. You can eat decent food for a lot less than 57 reals a day even in Copacabana.LOL, I'm sure you're right and I need to learn how to eat in those places. I'm still eating as if I'm getting 4 reais to the dollar and I'm not anymore. My last trip I spent a ton of money eating out so I have to start getting myself on a new budget in line with the realities of Rio.
RCA Knight
06-14-11, 14:52
If you are BBBJ lover, then stick to Rio. I find in recent years, Patty gogo girls and disco freelancers, especially nicer ones perform less and less BBBJ as compared before (nicer one in Patty is getting harder to find as compared to years ago) , in recent 2 years I and my friends combined experienced less than half girls give BBBJ in Patty. Many gogo bars now you will have to pay in advance 600+1500 (dancing girls 2000 bahts up) plus drinks and LDs, such as the 2 Baby shops, you pay in advance without knowing what will turn out, and some gogo or freelancers would only go to short time hotel if your hotel too far. Really have attitude problem.
You can easily pay over 100 USD per ST and get a lousy service in Thailand now. If you are on short trip with limited budget and hoping for good service, I would stick to Rio termas. Absolutely no problem getting a performer, especially good BBBJ from termas, and pay under 100USD for multiple shots. My personal stats from termas is almost 90% give nice to super BBBJ.
If you have more budget, and on a short trip and want guaranteed service and quality, fly to Macau, Macau saunas is still my favorite whenever I can afford to splurge.
Yet, I got a little fed-up of tiny shy bar girls and I would like to have some hardcore experience with hot Brazilans (cim and anal, both quite rare with cute Thais).And if you want some GOOD anal, Brazil absolutely cannot be beat for BEST in anal service in the ENTIRE world! It's a nation infatuated with the "popozuda" (a big butt girl). When I come to Brazil, I do lots of girls and have never failed to take less than 70% of them in the ass. No lie. The closest other destination is Germany where I take 40% up the butt at the FKKs (mostly eastern Europeans).
Plenty here can confirm for you that in a terma many garotas will just walk right up to you and asked to get butt fucked. I like the brancas (white girls) and the morenas (light caramel to brown sugar girls). Interestingly enough, I have a much harder time finding morenas that I am attracted to who will let me "analize" them right off the bat no questions asked versus the white girls. I walk into a terma and the blondes seem to KNOW what I want! Hahaha!
I don't even hardly "hunt" for it any more in a terma. They come to me and request to be slammed right up the arsehole like putas. If I like her and she turns me on, I go with her. If she doesn't do it for me, then I don't go, and I wait for the next one to step to me. I only become the hunter when I see EXACTLY what I want . . . the right hair, face, smile, teeth, titties, buttocks cheeks, skin tone . . . that's when you as the monger need to step to it before another monger does. GOD I LOVE Brazil!
Is there any other city where I can find what Rio offers on a smaller scale?That depends on what you mean by "what Rio offers." If you mean pussy in abundance, the answer is yes. You can find pussy in abundance anywhere in Brazil, probably even in small provincial towns (I am basing that on reports I have read in the Brazil forum; no first hand experience). If you mean Rio's charm, the answer is no; in that respect Rio is unique. Probably your best second choice would be Salvador, which IMHO is the quintessential Brazilian city. It has a great deal of charm and an authentic Afro-Brazilian culture, and-oh yes-pussy in abundance. However, you won't find anywhere near the variety of physical types you will in Rio; the girls will nearly all be black or mulata, which is fine with me.
I mean, I agree with you saying that termas may be ideal for a Brazialin rookie like me.
I also think it is the best way for me to enjoy sex with a pro. It sounds similar to fkk in Germany and I love it. They are almost exactly like the FKKs in Germany, with some minor differences. In the FKKs the girls are naked, whereas in the termas they usually wear a bikini-like costume. The termas girls are far less aggressive than the FKK girls. FKK girls rarely DFK, while in the termas all of them do. In the FKKs you have to pay extra for CIM and anal, whereas in the termas everything is included in the girl charge. In the termas the girls will hang with you and sometimes let you cop a feel or DFK them right in the boite; in the FKK, never. And the termas girls may hang with you for a while even without a guarantee that you'll take them to the cabine or suite, or even after the cabine. In the FKKs, no, they are all looking for the quick turnover and don't waste time on anything else. But they are both alike in that you can spend several hours there passing your time, nursing a drink, and enjoying watching the girls.
No termas in Fortaleza, Recife, or Salvador?There are definitely termas in Salvador. I went to one called "Special Relax" where there was an excellent selection of garotas. But that was years ago, so I don't even know if it's still there. Just ask a taxi driver to take you to where the girls are.
For the record, the other board that is being referred to is pretty much dead now. There were so many arguments, of which The Cane and Kid Cisco were directly involved in, that nobody bothers to post there anymore. I banned myself from that site, just got sick of the idiocy that was going on.You fail to mention why there were arguments. The reason why you and your cronies are over here is because you could no longer do what you were doing over there. Other people demanded to be respected as members of the community too, but you all couldn't seem to do that. So you came over here, and it was good riddance. That happened YEARS ago. ET's banishment was much more recent, and for something totally unrelated to all of that.
I am a member in good standing in both places, and that's the way it's going to remain. So, if you want to start some childish bullshit after all of this time, then you go right ahead Bubba Boy, and I'll let Jackson deal with it. I don't have the time for it. The one always starting things is YOU, just like you have done now with your unnecessary, misleading post. Save it!
The truth is that the other place did quite well for a very, very, VERY long time after you left, and it's only in recent times that things have slowed down there. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what you say it does. The truth is that it seems that after Help closed, things really started to drop off over there as there were some big Help fans on that site. Also, I think a lot of the guys over there just aren't traveling due to a weak dollar and hard economic times. Now, the leading discussion over there is about a Burger King opening up in Copa! Please!
I'm over here now because this is where the action is. People are still reporting and posting pics on ISG, and that's exactly what I'm going to do too. Also, I think there is a very fitting special interest section over here for what went down during my most recent trip. Now excuse me. I have some more pictures to crop of my "princessas brancas" . . . heads down, arms back, palms up, and big, round asses jacked way up in the air ready for plunder!
By the way. . . GREAT GUIDE Bubby! All that info and that street map comes in very, very handy! There's always something new to be experienced/learned during each and every trip! Obrigado!
Maybe so James Howard. How about you tell it to the Pope? Better yet, tell it to Jackson. Maybe some other guys will kiss your ass around here, but you better believe I'm not going to. I WILL take your free guides and maps though. LOL! You've been reported to the webmaster for your unprovoked harassment. Keep it up, and next time you won't have to ban yourself. Somebody will do it for you. And you have the nerve to talk about "idiocy". I won't respond to your bullshit again. I'll just send it to Jackson. Ta ta!
Plenty here can confirm for you that in a terma many garotas will just walk right up to you and asked to get butt fucked.
LOL. Very true. At MC, I had a one garota run up to me, introduce herself, and say,"You can fuck my ass!" Also, in the rooms, complimenting the woman's bunda will usually get you the cu. Often, I hear..."Voce quer?"
LOL. Very true. At MC, I had a one garota run up to me, introduce herself, and say,"You can fuck my ass!" Also, in the rooms, complimenting the woman's bunda will usually get you the cu. Often, I hear..."Voce quer?"Just wait until I tell you what happened at Termas 502. First time I went, and it was wild. I need to finish reviewing and resizing all of my pics first. But for now, just remember this . . . Black Label: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Label2.JPG. I'll explain later. Like I said, there was so much butt fucking (almost every girl this trip) that maybe I better tell it in the "Anal Connoisseurs" section.
Ipanema Carioca
06-15-11, 10:11
Got free pussy at Club 22 in Rio. Used American Express Card Apr 2011, and they overcharged it. I want 30 mins. And they charged me for an hour. Amex just gave me full credit today. So use Amex card as bait and let the termas overcharge you and get credit through disputing the charge. The termas is not going to say we sold him pussy.
Were you to stop telling everybody that your dad could beat their dads up in a fistfight, that'd also help improve the situation. That's a lot of talk man, post some pictures, post a report and that's it.
BlessI have, and I will. Yeah, talk is cheap . . . people said the same shit in the other place. . . I have the second most viewed Rio report EVER over there after the "Pictures" thread, which is the mother of all Rio threads, at least over there. I'm here now. Be patient.
LittleTruths
06-15-11, 15:27
I have, and I will. Yeah, talk is cheap . . . people said the same shit in the other place. . . I have the second most viewed Rio report EVER over there after the "Pictures" thread, which is the mother of all Rio threads, at least over there. I'm here now. Be patient.Don't assume everybody cares what people were up to and what are they known for in other places. I, for one, do not care about any of that, and expecially don't care who you guys are cool or not cool with. I don't even know what other forum you refer to and neither do I care to find out. All I care for on here is the valuable info, the pictures and the occasional conversation / fun. I just meant to point out how the valuable time and effort you're putting into rambling about dunnowhat could have been put in towards the realization and posting of your own report, that you have let be known is on its way.
Bless
Don't assume everybody cares what people were up to and what are they known for in other places. I, for one, do not care about any of that, and expecially don't care who you guys are cool or not cool with. I don't even know what other forum you refer to and neither do I care to find out. All I care for on here is the valuable info, the pictures and the occasional conversation / fun. I just meant to point out how the valuable time and effort you're putting into rambling about dunnowhat could have been put in towards the realization and posting of your own report, that you have let be known is on its way.
BlessI do. A lot of guys here have, or have had, accounts in both places and know exactly what the deal is. We don't mention the other place here by name because it's forbidden for us to do so. And I agree that energies could best be spent elsewhere. That's what I want too.
I had no desire whatsoever for things to go this way. But knowing what I know, I fully expected it, and was ready. Guys like you don't know what to believe, and as you say, don't care. I guess I would be the same way.
It's just that I'm not about to just sit back and do absolutely nothing and let angry recriminations resurfacing from the past be used for character assassination.
The moderator over here runs a pretty tight ship. If they keep it up . . . I'm confident he will put a stop to it. He's done it before over this very same matter. This doesn't serve anybody's interests here at all.
Ipanema Carioca
06-15-11, 20:37
Great, until they break your legs.Well their greed is the issue, and the Brazilian laws work for Brazilians. American Express is how a travel for the protection. So if they take credit cards, a business better know that over pricing gringos will end up costing them. The poor 20 year old who sacrificed her mouth, pussy and anus is the one who took it for her team. I am sure when I walled into Club 22 the outcome would be what happen, especially when the cashier said no receipt for lack of paper. I said ok,"The ass and drinks are on the house then", me being confident that calls from Amex would intimidate them to be unresponsive. Fuck Club 22, I would not be going there again.
Eric Cartman
06-16-11, 03:30
well, first of all, let me just say that the one thing i took away from two pages below of e-peen stroking was: there's a burger king opening in copa? do tell!
anyway, went to mc last night around 9pm right after leaving work. free entrada. yay me for racking up $$$ during churroman's visit. one night we spent about r$1200 there and on the way out, the manager chased us down with free monte carlo t-shirts. i've debated giving them to working girls who sleep over and ask me for a camisa lol. too close to home i think.
so i rock up in to the boate and. wham. there is a gal-pal of mine who used to work at t65 until about 3-4 weeks ago and made a lot of noise about leaving and going to sao paolo. but now she is there. looking good too. but when she comes over for r$200 for a few hours, hard to pay to do her at mc prices. i try to hang out at the bar and relax a bit. some ugly new chick sort of harasses me for not wanting to sit down. i try to explain i've been sitting all day at work but she just gets pissy. why is it always the fugly ones?
mix was pretty good at mc still. again, more new faces in past 2 weeks. good vibe. maybe 30+ girls? 10 guys? there was one thin, tall black girl with afro-hair who i nearly pulled. but then i was approached by a tall think morena with fake boobies who i hadn't seen before. she started there 2 weeks ago. brenda. apparently worked at centaurus a year ago, then had some fling with a swiss guy that almost ended in marriage but instead broke apart (shocker!) , and now she's at mc. we chatted for a bit and she seemed nice. so i moved in with my usual questions about what she likes in the room. can i come in your mouth?"no" (phrased as "i don't really like it. do you have any health problems?"). can i fuck your bunda?"no i don't like it" (arg!) do you suck deep?"yes". at this point, the clock is ticking (because my gal-pal above wants to come stay with me after her shift) , so i'm like, ok let's go. ignoring all the warning signs. i really only have myself to blame.
40 min session. lame kissing, no passion. nice body except i can see the scars under her fake boobies. i hate that. decent bj but not slobberingly deep. she has a nice trimmed coochie so i want to have a closer look. and then the smell hits me. hm, someone didn't douche before our session. dang. nasty. very tight fuck but no passion at all, mechanical. she won't look at me at all. keeps watching herself in the mirror or looking away. total turn off. i sort of soften up and she wants to blow me again. doing so, she bites my left nut. it feels like being punched in the balls and i hop away. she's like "did i hurt you?" yes, you bad quality hooker you bit my balls! i make some excuses about being tired and we end the session. on the way out, i tell the manger that it was pretty bad and, let's just say i'm not going to repeat. i didn't want to throw this chick under the bus, but she sucked.
saving grace: only r$269 because of my free entrance, r$260 for the 40 min session and i think r$9 chopp for my gal-pal. will head back later in the week for a try at someone else.
ps gal-pal paid back her r$9 chopp in spades later that night.
-cartman
SammyJ2112
06-16-11, 06:15
well, first of all, let me just say that the one thing i took away from two pages below of e-peen stroking was: there's a burger king opening in copa? do tell!
anyway, went to mc last night around 9pm right after leaving work. free entrada. yay me for racking up $$$ during churroman's visit. one night we spent about r$1200 there and on the way out, the manager chased us down with free monte carlo t-shirts. i've debated giving them to working girls who sleep over and ask me for a camisa lol. too close to home i think.
so i rock up in to the boate and. wham. there is a gal-pal of mine who used to work at t65 until about 3-4 weeks ago and made a lot of noise about leaving and going to sao paolo. but now she is there. looking good too. but when she comes over for r$200 for a few hours, hard to pay to do her at mc prices. i try to hang out at the bar and relax a bit. some ugly new chick sort of harasses me for not wanting to sit down. i try to explain i've been sitting all day at work but she just gets pissy. why is it always the fugly ones?
mix was pretty good at mc still. again, more new faces in past 2 weeks. good vibe. maybe 30+ girls? 10 guys? there was one thin, tall black girl with afro-hair who i nearly pulled. but then i was approached by a tall think morena with fake boobies who i hadn't seen before. she started there 2 weeks ago. brenda. apparently worked at centaurus a year ago, then had some fling with a swiss guy that almost ended in marriage but instead broke apart (shocker!) , and now she's at mc. we chatted for a bit and she seemed nice. so i moved in with my usual questions about what she likes in the room. can i come in your mouth?"no" (phrased as "i don't really like it. do you have any health problems?"). can i fuck your bunda?"no i don't like it" (arg!) do you suck deep?"yes". at this point, the clock is ticking (because my gal-pal above wants to come stay with me after her shift) , so i'm like, ok let's go. ignoring all the warning signs. i really only have myself to blame.
40 min session. lame kissing, no passion. nice body except i can see the scars under her fake boobies. i hate that. decent bj but not slobberingly deep. she has a nice trimmed coochie so i want to have a closer look. and then the smell hits me. hm, someone didn't douche before our session. dang. nasty. very tight fuck but no passion at all, mechanical. she won't look at me at all. keeps watching herself in the mirror or looking away. total turn off. i sort of soften up and she wants to blow me again. doing so, she bites my left nut. it feels like being punched in the balls and i hop away. she's like "did i hurt you?" yes, you bad quality hooker you bit my balls! i make some excuses about being tired and we end the session. on the way out, i tell the manger that it was pretty bad and, let's just say i'm not going to repeat. i didn't want to throw this chick under the bus, but she sucked.
saving grace: only r$269 because of my free entrance, r$260 for the 40 min session and i think r$9 chopp for my gal-pal. will head back later in the week for a try at someone else.
ps gal-pal paid back her r$9 chopp in spades later that night.
-cartmani'm sorry, but that's about the funniest thing i've ever read! next time, maybe have a grande chopp before the session, just to lessen the pain? long live the b-king. then you can get some take out and bring it to mc, present it to a girl and tell her to "shove your whopper in her mouth". i hope the dream comes true.
Per a posting on another website, the closed Alhambra Restaurant, at the corner of Av Atlantica and rua Almirante de Goncalves, has construction signage posted, stating that renovations are being made for a Burger King there.
Also per the other site, there is renewed construction activity at the old Help location.
Beach Star
06-16-11, 15:30
Per a posting on another website, the closed Alhambra Restaurant, at the corner of Av Atlantica and rua Almirante de Goncalves, has construction signage posted, stating that renovations are being made for a Burger King there.
Also per the other site, there is renewed construction activity at the old Help location. I've heard Wendy's are coming as well! Rio is becoming a Gourmet paradise!
Sui Generis
06-16-11, 18:48
I've heard Wendy's are coming as well! Rio is becoming a Gourmet paradise!You're damn right! There are several American « restaurants » througout Brazil and in Rio, in particular.
I am aware of a Subway in São Paulo (in Moema) ; in fact, the Moema Applebbe's was the first one in Brazil (in 2005) ; now there is even an Applebee's in the Shopping New York City Center in Barra the Tijuca, since 2007.
We could also mention:
1) Starbucks: Shopping Leblon, in Leblon; Barra de Tijuca in Shopping Downtown and in Botafogo (Shopping Rio Sul and Shopping Praia Botafogo).
2) Pizza Hut: one in Copacabana (Rua Francisco Otaviano) and two in Barra de Tijuca (Parque das Rosas and New York Barra Shopping)
3) Burger King (in Brazil since 2004) : (In Rio since 2006) Bangu Shopping; Barra Shopping; Shopping Via brasil, Shopping Downtown, Shopping Norte; Iguatemi Shopping and there's also a location on Rua São José, still in Rio.
4) KFC was in Brazil since the beginning of the 60's but most of the oulets closed down. Now there are several in Rio de Janeiro (for example the one located on Presidente Vargas was inaugurated in 2009). You can also find PFK in Barra de Tijuca, Norte Shopping and Ipanema.
5) Dunkin Donuts closed down their franchises in 2005, after 21 years in Brazil. The former Dunkin Donuts were converted in Café Donuts. The Rio Café Donuts are located in Norte Shopping, Iguatemi Shopping; Barra Shopping; Ilha Plaza; Shopping Tijuca.
6) Hooters: I know there's one in Vila Olimpia (São Paulo) but I've heard that the're planning to open new locations before 2014 (especially in Rio)
If they open a Krispy Kream in Brazil, then they would be ready for the Olympics!
You're damn right! There are several American « restaurants » througout Brazil and in Rio, in particular.The only interesting contribution is Hooters. That must be a sight, a brazilian Hooters.
Sui Generis
06-16-11, 19:21
The only interesting contribution is Hooters. That must be a sight, a brazilian Hooters.Well, maybe they will have more chance if they change the concept of the chain in order to honour one of the natural beauty of Brazil : Booters!
http://www.hootersbrasil.com.br/site2/
Well, maybe they will have more chance if they change the concept of the chain in order to honour one of the natural beauty of Brazil : Booters!
http://www.hootersbrasil.com.br/site2/Anybody fancy investing in my new restaurant chain?. "Bundas"
Can anyone help me out and tell me where I can get cipro and azithro without a prescription? I know recently you needed to have a prescription. I heard there were places in the suburbs. Help please!.)
Viper10
Can anyone help me out and tell me where I can get cipro and azithro without a prescription? I know recently you needed to have a prescription. I heard there were places in the suburbs. Help please.)
Viper10I know many pharmacies in Copa started to demand prescriptions fro antibiotics etc. However there is one pharmacy close to ex-Help/Othon Palace which doesn't seem to be strict at all. Pharmacy Tambaú on Miguel Lemos. Between Galeto the Miguel (which BTW has cheap and good galeto-meals) and Restaurant Mônaco (which has delicious sandwiches with carne asada).
I hope one doesn't need to eat hamburgers (the real ones) with a condom on his tongue! In such a case BB has to be strongly recommended.Maybe American fast food joints in Brazil aren't all bad! I got a working girl's telephone number at a McDonald's the last time I was in Rio. I couldn't be 100% certain she was a working girl, but I was pretty darn sure. She had the look, including a kick ass body and some mean/nasty, very visible tattoos. And besides, she was in the part of Copa where one might expect to find tutes out on patrol.
I was waiting for my order when she came up behind me and asked, "Is this the line?" I told her yes and checked her body out. Concluded quickly she was on the stroll. My order came, and I proceeded to go find a table to sit down and eat. After she had her order, she chose a table right next to mine where she could sit facing me. "Americano?", she asked. I answered yes, but then didn't pay her any more mind. I noticed that she seemed to be checking me out using the mirror on the opposite wall.
She finished her meal before I did, then walked past me back towards the counter. I figured she was going to order something else. When she came back, she stopped at my table with her name and telephone number written on the back of her receipt. "Here's my number. Call me." She had gone to the counter to get something to write with. Now, if only she had been my type! She wasn't. I guess that's why I didn't pay her much attention. But, she could have been somebody's! I tossed her number when I go back to my hotel room.
After she had her order, she chose a table right next to mine where she could sit facing me. "Americano?", she asked. "Here's my number. Call me." .Yeah, nothing is like a Mc Do abroad to chase impoverished pussy and 2nd world gold diggers. Congratulations for your game. (smilie)
Maybe American fast food joints in Brazil aren't all bad!------, she stopped at my table with her name and telephone number written on the back of her receipt. "Here's my number. Call me.".Nice story.
Summing it up, the equation is "Going to McDonald? Bring your own condom!"
See? I was (nearly) right! LOL.
Got to love those uenxpected hooks up.
Never happened to me, but many years agom, in a So. Ca. Mexican restaurant I was having lunch with (young) collegue and a girl nearby ketp on staring at him. When laving she dropped him a piece of paper with her numer and name. (She was no WG, by all means, just a nice and not shy girl)
He just propositioned his future wife at that time so he ignored the opportunity.
Now that he is about to divorce and regretting the choice on wife, I told him,"maybe that girl could have been a better wife".
Member #3439
06-17-11, 20:45
I know many pharmacies in Copa started to demand prescriptions fro antibiotics etc. However there is one pharmacy close to ex-Help/Othon Palace which doesn't seem to be strict at all. Pharmacy Tambaú on Miguel Lemos. Between Galeto the Miguel (which BTW has cheap and good galeto-meals) and Restaurant Mônaco (which has delicious sandwiches with carne asada).This is a good one. I recommend never starting a trip without access to antibios and vitamins. Never know when you might catch something or wear out the tool. The places below aren't strict at all; cipro, Vitamins V&C, amox are available. I restock my mongering kit in Rio for going to the those other countries that are strict and here's where I do it. You just hand them a piece of paper with the name and quantity on it, even if you speak Portuguese. I think they don't want to have a discussion about it without someone whom they think can't speak any Porto, so they fill the order no questions asked. .
Copa: Drogaria right by Siqueria Campos Metro station.
Centro: Drogaria Pachecho on Ave Rio Branco near Carioca station.
Centro: Sao Paulo pharmacy on Presidente Vargas near the intersection with Rio Branco. Same side as Windsor Guanabara hotel.
Centro: Pachecho on Rua Uruguania shopping district, south of Pres. Vargas.
Member #3439
06-17-11, 21:04
Well their greed is the issue, and the Brazilian laws work for Brazilians. American Express is how a travel for the protection. So if they take credit cards, a business better know that over pricing gringos will end up costing them. The poor 20 year old who sacrificed her mouth, pussy and anus is the one who took it for her team. I am sure when I walled into Club 22 the outcome would be what happen, especially when the cashier said no receipt for lack of paper. I said ok,"The ass and drinks are on the house then", me being confident that calls from Amex would intimidate them to be unresponsive. Fuck Club 22, I would not be going there again.I think the best arrangement is to find a girl you like there in the bar, and try to get her to meet you after work. The girls leave early most nights, like before midnight. Until you posted this, I thought that SlimHoleDrill and I were the only ISGers that actually session at the place. Lots of people go in, but most don't do the girls. 22 has to be one of the most crooked in Rio, they even try to overcharge me when I've come there multiple nights. However, some of the short-timer girls that come to work there to get their debt payment money, Prada purse money, or whatever are truly GFE. You can sometimes find a girl there that is not jaded, and totally real. I'm not sure how they find them, but some seem to be new to the biz and really down to earth compared with almost all other casa/termas/boite girls in Rio
I was barebacking a short timer girl in there last year who was a real sweetheart. If I could take her to EUA with me, I would have. The girl was the kind that pulls your hips to get you into her pussy at the pace she likes, and was trying to lick my tonsils the whole time, slippery pussy from the start, taking cum in mouth and cum in pussy very naturally like she means it. But every night on the way out the mama would try to charge me for drinks that I never bought. I felt that it was just like a dichotomy that the girl was laying her ass on the line (most literally) in the backroom and giving a real honest old school lay, and then mama was pulling con-artist scams at the front desk. Felt bad for the girl, because if they treat customers like this I can imagine they also fuck the girls over, and this particular one was really giving it her all, with uncommon work ethic. So she comes to work at this place and is risking getting sick because either this is how she needs it, or this is what she thinks is required, but working for a bunch of assholes who have no respect for anyone, not even customers. And then she gets only half the money. It's unfortunate. But this being a hohouse, its a seedy biz and we expect this type of behavior. I never use a charge card at these places. I pay cash. At Bar 22, if they try to load the tab, gringo tax me on the entrada, etc, I do call them on it. I pay the fair price (R15 entrada including 3 beers, 100R/40 minutos) and walk out, no one bothers me. Ethics aside, it's the culture there to take advantage of the other person whenever you can, so you can't blame them for trying. 90% of gringos coming into 22 probably get shafted and never dispute the charges. You are probably the exceptional person who knows the game. So they lost money on you, they still make money on the other 90% who pay it and don't dispute.
I have been having luck with the prive girls. They only work like 10 to 6pm, hence have the evenings off. If you screen the ones with 1) No kids 2) No boyfriend: it is relatively easy. There are like 50 decent prives in Rio. Lots and lots of choice, bound to find one you like in short time. The price of a TD (test drive) is only R$50. R$60 for 30 mins, although I usually take the hour which is R$80 to R$100. Anal can be extra at the best places, but once you see them a few times they have always thrown it in as a freebie for me. Once I have seen a girl maybe 2 or 3 times I know if there is any chance of a getting them to come over for free. They are not shy, will tell you very quickly if they really like you. You need to leverage this when you find it. They invite themselves, I never invite them.
For some one like myself who is in bed by say midnight, I like to see prive girls for dinner, a good boning, good sleep then kick them out before 9am so I have the day to myself (They have to be at work by 10am, so another plus here!). I never pay a girl to stay with me in my bed. Not so much to save the cash because with dinner etc you don't save much. More for the true GFE no money changes hands. Most prive girls that I see tend to be students! Terma girls tend to have very unsocial hours, doesn't work anymore for me.
For anyone that doesn't know what a prive is. It is a small brothel, normally in a commercial building. There are tons of them in Centro, normally they same building. Some are very nice, same rooms or better than the most expensive Termas, some are average. The bigger ones have maybe 12 girls on, the smaller ones maybe 4. The ultra cheap ones are shitty!
Ipanema Carioca
06-17-11, 22:31
I think the best arrangement is to find a girl you like there in the bar, and try to get her to meet you after work. The girls leave early most nights, like before midnight. Until you posted this, I thought that SlimHoleDrill and I were the only ISGers that actually session at the place. Lots of people go in, but most don't do the girls. 22 has to be one of the most crooked in Rio, they even try to overcharge me when I've come there multiple nights. However, some of the short-timer girls that come to work there to get their debt payment money, Prada purse money, or whatever are truly GFE. You can sometimes find a girl there that is not jaded, and totally real. I'm not sure how they find them, but some seem to be new to the biz and really down to earth compared with almost all other casa / termas / boite girls in Rio.
I was barebacking a short timer girl in there last year who was a real sweetheart. If I could take her to EUA with me, I would have. The girl was the kind that pulls your hips to get you into her pussy at the pace she likes, and was trying to lick my tonsils the whole time, slippery pussy from the start, taking cum in mouth and cum in pussy very naturally like she means it. But every night on the way out the mama would try to charge me for drinks that I never bought. I felt that it was just like a dichotomy that the girl was laying her ass on the line (most literally) in the backroom and giving a real honest old school lay, and then mama was pulling con-artist scams at the front desk. Felt bad for the girl, because if they treat customers like this I can imagine they also fuck the girls over, and this particular one was really giving it her all, with uncommon work ethic. So she comes to work at this place and is risking getting sick because either this is how she needs it, or this is what she thinks is required, but working for a bunch of assholes who have no respect for anyone, not even customers. And then she gets only half the money. It's unfortunate. But this being a hohouse, its a seedy biz and we expect this type of behavior. I never use a charge card at these places. I pay cash. At Bar 22, if they try to load the tab, gringo tax me on the entrada, etc, I do call them on it. I pay the fair price (R15 entrada including 3 beers. 100R / 40 minutos) and walk out, no one bothers me. Ethics aside, it's the culture there to take advantage of the other person whenever you can, so you can't blame them for trying. 90% of gringos coming into 22 probably get shafted and never dispute the charges. You are probably the exceptional person who knows the game. So they lost money on you, they still make money on the other 90% who pay it and don't dispute. Puta Playa, you described it to a tee. The girls was kinda green or amateurish. Young mother in school type, late teens early 20s with no tattoos. She performed like a lover. She even gave me a phone number. I am sure she knows the operation thought. With portuguese speakers they will talk "it's gringo time" in my cash register voice. But she said she will be there for a short time. She even sat with me my entire time after the session until her food arrived. She never asked for a drink. When I decided to leave, I saw her sitting near momma eating at the register. I've session enough to tell the new GFE types.
But I was there for this past Easter weekend and Monte Carlo was closed for some reason my entire 10 days in Rio. A typical street guy told me to go into 22. I knew where it was and usually avoided it. He brought me in. I was curious. He even took me to some apartments at Junior Prado and Ave. Atlantica. I saw one doable thick and young morena. But it was seedy local style. But it was 24/7 with different girls.
I use Amex plastic in these places because I do not want to flash money. Plus they figure he has no cash to steal with plastic. But with AMEX there is a great dispute system. In my 15 trips to RIo, this is the only time I disputed a charge. I am sure AMEX intimidated 22, so they didn't respond to the dispute investigation. But thanks for your response PP!
Beach Star
06-17-11, 22:35
Maybe American fast food joints in Brazil aren't all bad! I got a working girl's telephone number at a McDonald's the last time I was in Rio. I couldn't be 100% certain she was a working girl, but I was pretty darn sure.
Is there any other way of getting a working girls telephone number without going to Mcdonalds?
@Cane: this forum is about putas, not about us.Let's all be about it then! If it's about the putas, then let's let it be about the putas and not about you, us, me, or any member here. You haven't seen me in all the time I've been a member here (years) come and attack anybody. And Jackson himself knows that. I'm here to talk about the putas just like anybody else.
This is a perfect example of the kind of "monger snobbery" that can exist in these forums. The guys that live in a place or are there all the time think they're better than everybody else. They don't have to follow the rules. Or so they think. It's the exact same thing that was going on in the other place. Nobody here is eligible to receive a free pass for violating the rules. I don't care how much they think they have contributed. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely!
For Bubba Boy's edification, I happen to still be on the road. Which means that I can't work on things the way I want to. That will come to an end soon. And then, on my time schedule and not his . . . . In the meantime, if it's about the putas, then let's keep it about the putas! And for your edification, I didn't attack him. HE attacked me with his IGNORANT assertions that I'm Kid Cisco, among other things. I have every right to defend myself. And I will. That hardly falls into the category of flaming.
As for Sperto, I never said a damn thing to him to start anything. I don't know any "Sperto". He may have helped 10,000 people with his guides, but that's no free pass for him to start in on anybody without any provocations towards him whatsoever. If you want to kiss his ass, though, knock yourself out. And ET, well, I don't have to say anything else! I bet it feels great to have the heat being placed on somebody else in here other than yourself for a change huh?
Grandnash84
06-17-11, 22:45
Yes I like it.
An hamburger is like anal sex afterall: a piece of meat between two buns.
I have to say, this is one of the most interesting posts that I've seen in ISG / Rio. The concept of taking an aparto girl private is uncommon.
Where do you take them to dinner? What do those girls expect?
@Cane: this is about finding the best putas at the least cost, not about insults. Bubba Boy is a senior guy in this thread and has taken his personal time to maintain an invaluable guide that leads to many noobs realizing their dreams down in Rio, at no benefit to himself. Wrong guy to attack. I've only been a member for a few months but I do find cane's posts quite annoying. I am tryning to get as much info as possible for my trip and I find it annoying that you are starting a lot of shit for no reason. I'm trying to weed through all the bullshit posts and reading yurs is just wasting my time We don't need Internet tuff talk on here. On being here a couple of months I've found bubbas posts and guide very helpful. I plan to follow his guide to the T. Cane, do you have any reports out there that will help us newbies out? Cause I would like to read those instead of all this bullshit your posting.
Member #3439
06-17-11, 22:49
Puta Playa, you described it to a tee. The girls was kinda green or amateurish. Young mother in school type, late teens early 20s with no tattoos. She performed like a lover. She even gave me a phone number. I am sure she knows the operation thought. With portuguese speakers they will talk "it's gringo time" in my cash register voice. But she said she will be there for a short time. She even sat with me my entire time after the session until her food arrived. She never asked for a drink. When I decided to leave, I saw her sitting near momma eating at the register. I've session enough to tell the new GFE types.
I use Amex plastic in these places because I do not want to flash money. Plus they figure he has no cash to steal with plastic. But with AMEX there is a great dispute system. In my 15 trips to RIo, this is the only time I disputed a charge. I am sure AMEX intimidated 22, so they didn't respond to the dispute investigation. But thanks for your response PP! I have to second that on AMEX. If you're out traveling in 2nd world places like Brasil and people screw you over, they will make it right. But the idea of no cash to steal, I am not sure about that. There are numerous reports of favelados making people drive around and take ATM money, cash advances at the threat of bodily harm. Not fun, cause this is time when we could have been mongering instead of being mugged. . What I do is carry a wallet with enough cash to make a mugger happy, like R50. The rest is stashed elsewhere. In Copa, I don't see a security problem. It is safer than the cities in EUA where I go. But I spend most of my time in Centro walking around at night, so understand your safety concern and use of the plastic. I just would rather be robbed of R50 than deal with the AMEX calls. Time in Rio is precious.
@Cane--> Man, you really need to get down to Rio and bust a nut. You are getting way too emotionally involved here, balls tied a knot. :) This is a bunch of guys just talking about homongering and how to do it well, cheap, and safe. I like to make friends here, because even the guys who come across as assholes are still really good guys in person. We are all after the same thing. I've never personally met BB but respect him for what he has provided here. Maybe next time in Rio, you can buy him a beer and come back telling us what a great guy he was in real life. I've met Exec Talent whom many flame, and he is a great guy. I would be honored to meet Bubba Boy, Sperto, Christopherd. These are the star athletes of the board here, some of them monger globally and contribute diverse valuable reports on putas of all races and creeds, leading to many successful mongering trips by others. People live things that they never thought possible due to this guidance. Please appreciate their contributions and pay due respect. No one here owes things like Bubbas Guide, or Sperto's list. I find it tragic that someone would flame Sperto. I wrote 3 RODs just on Spertos list places since 2009. Enough pussy to scare most guys, and awesome things to think about when I'm old and drooling in my oatmeal (copyright somebody else). Without these contrubutions by these people, many guys would not know where to find it, and they would just be reporting on how they sat in the JW Marriot or whatever and wanked it. Rio scene is not Walking Street, or Soi Cowboy, Tobita Shinchi or Fields Ave.The scene is mostly concealed and it takes intelligence to find the good places. These guys put boots on the ground and report details to make it possible, to bang many garotas, and live vicariously in Rio. So, I'm offsetting your comments by saying Bubba Boy and Sperto deserve all the respect possible.
Is there any other way of getting a working girls telephone number without going to Mcdonalds?Read the Bubba Boy Guide. Sounds like you really could use it with a question like that.
Cane, do you have any reports out there that will help us newbies out? Cause I would like to read those instead of all this bullshit your posting.Yes I do. But, I've been more active on another site. I've decided to come over here now. At least for awhile. I'll be reporting here on ISG on my latest Rio trip soon. Also, if you can show me the post where I started some shit, then I would really like to see it, and I'll take responsibility for it. The reality is, you need to blame a handful of jerks here for not keepin' it about the putas. Not me noob.
If somebody criticizes you or does not agree with you, that is not necessarily a personal attack. Anybody on this board has the right to criticize someone else as long it is done in a certain manner. This is not NAZI germany, people are allowed to criticize others! My last post was hardly an attack, I think it was a fair question in that was where is your post. I didn't "name call you", didn't use a "nasty tone". Was more of a "matter of fact type of comment". Doubt Jackson would have a problem with this type of post.
Your response on the other hand was much closer to an attack. You used name calling, was obviously emotionally charged and kind on unlogical. The post that you referred to of mine was very much on the subject of private girls, this is what this board is all about, sharing thoughts, opinions etc on mongering. Hardly a wasted post.
If you actually relaxed a bit, just ignored a few things that think are attacking you. Then followed up with some decent posts that contain pertinent information, you would find your life would be much easier on this board. Just chill out a bit and let your posts (on topic-strictly about mongering) do the talking for you. Ignore the rest and they will go away. If you keep responding to them all, then more than likely the whole topic will be deleted and you will get your first and last warning from Jackson.
If you actually relaxed a bit, just ignored a few things that think are attacking you. Then followed up with some decent posts that contain pertinent information, you would find your life would be much easier on this board. Just chill out a bit and let your posts (on topic-strictly about mongering) do the talking for you. Ignore the rest and they will go away. If you keep responding to them all, then more than likely the whole topic will be deleted and you will get your first and last warning from Jackson.Bubba, now you know good and damn well that these aren't just some kind of light criticisms being thrown my way. I have knowledge in great detail of the ugly nature of the problems you had with Kid Cisco. I actually stay in contact with him regularly, and he's told me exactly what went down. So, I know for you to accuse somebody of being Kid Cisco, that is a very serious, angry allegation being made by you.
And, I don't see why in the world Jackson would be giving me a last warning! I did nothing wrong. I made a post that I had a report coming, which is the kind of thing all us want to see, and then ET, you, and Sperto started in! I went to Jackson immediately because I wasn't going to sit back and be wrongfully accused of "starting" something when I knew I hadn't. Your words in particular were hostile, bitter, and acrimonious. I can actually understand why given the background.
But, I'll make you a deal. If you and your crew will stop referring to me as Kid Cisco and leave me alone to post in peace like everybody else here, as long as I'm on point and going with the flow, then I won't be gettin' into your business either or otherwise talkin' any shit about you or your boys. I'm not Kid Cisco. I've never been Kid Cisco. And I don't want to be Kid Cisco. There's only ONE Kid Cisco (even if I do use caps from time to time for emphasis!).
I have a report coming. As I said, I can't work on it the way that I want to right now because I'm still traveling. When I get home, I'll go to work on it. If you like it great. If you don't, that's OK too. Just don't read it then. I said before that I'm not here to disturb the peace, and I meant it. But in order for the peace to be preserved, you and your guys have to do some things differently too. Get off my dick! Leave me alone to participate in a civil fashion like any other member in good standing. If we can make a deal, then let's do it. Let's not make it about other members. Let's keep it about the putas.
And, I don't see why in the world Jackson would be giving me a last warning! I did nothing wrong. I made a post that I had a report coming, which is the kind of thing all us want to see, and then ET, you, and Sperto started in! I went to Jackson immediately because I wasn't going to sit back and be wrongfully accused of "starting" something when I knew I hadn't.Because of stuff like this, well actually this very stuff. I abandoned and never went back to the other site. Would be a shame if ISG doesn't nip this in the bud and put a stop to it
Bubba, now you know good and damn well that these aren't just some kind of light criticisms being thrown my way. I have knowledge in great detail of the ugly nature of the problems you had with Kid Cisco. I actually stay in contact with him regularly, and he's told me exactly what went down. So, I know for you to accuse somebody of being Kid Cisco, that is a very serious, angry allegation being made by you.
And, I don't see why in the world Jackson would be giving me a last warning! I did nothing wrong. I made a post that I had a report coming, which is the kind of thing all us want to see, and then ET, you, and Sperto started in! I went to Jackson immediately because I wasn't going to sit back and be wrongfully accused of "starting" something when I knew I hadn't. Your words in particular were hostile, bitter, and acrimonious. I can actually understand why given the background.
But, I'll make you a deal. If you and your crew will stop referring to me as Kid Cisco and leave me alone to post in peace like everybody else here, as long as I'm on point and going with the flow, then I won't be gettin' into your business either or otherwise talkin' any shit about you or your boys. I'm not Kid Cisco. I've never been Kid Cisco. And I don't want to be Kid Cisco. There's only ONE Kid Cisco (even if I do use caps from time to time for emphasis!).
I have a report coming. As I said, I can't work on it the way that I want to right now because I'm still traveling. When I get home, I'll go to work on it. If you like it great. If you don't, that's OK too. Just don't read it then. I said before that I'm not here to disturb the peace, and I meant it. But in order for the peace to be preserved, you and your guys have to do some things differently too. Get off my dick! Leave me alone to participate in a civil fashion like any other member in good standing. If we can make a deal, then let's do it. Let's not make it about other members. Let's keep it about the putas. That sounds like a good deal to me it's a WIN WIN! At the end of the day we log on to read reports and to get info right? And to keep things fresh on a forum it is always better when different mongers posts and write in their own different style and give their count of action as they see it. Some guys are into termas some are into apt girls or VM etc. We all have different taste IF a person feels his style of mongering is under attack guess what? They and others won't post.
I know Cane taste (we both have the same taste) LOL and he took pictures on this trip WHICH is hard to get these days, I really hope he go ahead and post his report I am sure many we get laughs and will learn something.
There been talk about me and Cane being the same person going back sometime now LOL once when I was in Costa Rica I posted my room number and the hotel front desk phone number and requested guys to give me a call LOL just so there wouldn't be a DOUBT that we were different people (BTW no one gave me a call) LOL beside ONE Kid Cisco is ALL the world needs and can handle LOL LOL
Give Cane a chance IF it wasn't for him posting his reports I wouldn't have ever gone to Panama nor would I have known about other places to check out.
Kid Cisco
Galenmarek
06-18-11, 02:19
Bubba, now you know good and damn well that these aren't just some kind of light criticisms being thrown my way. I have knowledge in great detail of the ugly nature of the problems you had with Kid Cisco. I actually stay in contact with him regularly, and he's told me exactly what went down. So, I know for you to accuse somebody of being Kid Cisco, that is a very serious, angry allegation being made by you.
And, I don't see why in the world Jackson would be giving me a last warning! I did nothing wrong. I made a post that I had a report coming, which is the kind of thing all us want to see, and then ET, you, and Sperto started in! I went to Jackson immediately because I wasn't going to sit back and be wrongfully accused of "starting" something when I knew I hadn't. Your words in particular were hostile, bitter, and acrimonious. I can actually understand why given the background.
But, I'll make you a deal. If you and your crew will stop referring to me as Kid Cisco and leave me alone to post in peace like everybody else here, as long as I'm on point and going with the flow, then I won't be gettin' into your business either or otherwise talkin' any shit about you or your boys. I'm not Kid Cisco. I've never been Kid Cisco. And I don't want to be Kid Cisco. There's only ONE Kid Cisco (even if I do use caps from time to time for emphasis!).
I have a report coming. As I said, I can't work on it the way that I want to right now because I'm still traveling. When I get home, I'll go to work on it. If you like it great. If you don't, that's OK too. Just don't read it then. I said before that I'm not here to disturb the peace, and I meant it. But in order for the peace to be preserved, you and your guys have to do some things differently too. Get off my dick! Leave me alone to participate in a civil fashion like any other member in good standing. If we can make a deal, then let's do it. Let's not make it about other members. Let's keep it about the putas. I hear you Cane, it's about the women.
Is there any other way of getting a working girls telephone number without going to Mcdonalds?How about asking her for it? Duh!
Eric Cartman
06-18-11, 07:10
I have been having luck with the prive girls. They only work like 10 to 6pm, hence have the evenings off. If you screen the ones with 1) No kids 2) No boyfriend: it is relatively easy. There are like 50 decent prives in Rio. Lots and lots of choice, bound to find one you like in short time. The price of a TD (test drive) is only R$50. R$60 for 30 mins, although I usually take the hour which is R$80 to R$100. Anal can be extra at the best places, but once you see them a few times they have always thrown it in as a freebie for me. Once I have seen a girl maybe 2 or 3 times I know if there is any chance of a getting them to come over for free. They are not shy, will tell you very quickly if they really like you. You need to leverage this when you find it. They invite themselves, I never invite them.
For some one like myself who is in bed by say midnight, I like to see prive girls for dinner, a good boning, good sleep then kick them out before 9am so I have the day to myself (They have to be at work by 10am, so another plus here!). I never pay a girl to stay with me in my bed. Not so much to save the cash because with dinner etc you don't save much. More for the true GFE no money changes hands. Most prive girls that I see tend to be students! Terma girls tend to have very unsocial hours, doesn't work anymore for me.
For anyone that doesn't know what a prive is. It is a small brothel, normally in a commercial building. There are tons of them in Centro, normally they same building. Some are very nice, same rooms or better than the most expensive Termas, some are average. The bigger ones have maybe 12 girls on, the smaller ones maybe 4. The ultra cheap ones are shitty! This is great advice. But it does take a somewhat rare position to execute on it. For example, you kind of have to be in Rio long enough to hit a bunch of privates and build rapport / repeat visits with the girls you like. And you have to have a flexible enough schedule to go to privates (as you note, mainly open day hours and closing by 7pm). If you can pull that off, there is much to be had as you note.
I hear you Cane, it's about the women.It's a small world because I know the girl in the last picture her name is AMANDA! I can tell by her markings on that ass LOL she use to work at the Monte Carlo don't know IF she is still working there or not I spent some great sessions with her, I was able to get her to come over my apt. A few nights when I was there.
After a few sessions she allowed me to take pictures of her sweet looking face LOL the funny thing is she normally cover up her "tattoo" by placing her hand over it.
Kid Cisco
I have been having luck with the prive girls. They only work like 10 to 6pm, hence have the evenings off. If you screen the ones with 1) No kids 2) No boyfriend: it is relatively easy. There are like 50 decent prives in Rio. Lots and lots of choice, bound to find one you like in short time. The price of a TD (test drive) is only R$50. R$60 for 30 mins, although I usually take the hour which is R$80 to R$100. Anal can be extra at the best places, but once you see them a few times they have always thrown it in as a freebie for me. Once I have seen a girl maybe 2 or 3 times I know if there is any chance of a getting them to come over for free. They are not shy, will tell you very quickly if they really like you. You need to leverage this when you find it. They invite themselves, I never invite them.
For some one like myself who is in bed by say midnight, I like to see prive girls for dinner, a good boning, good sleep then kick them out before 9am so I have the day to myself (They have to be at work by 10am, so another plus here!). I never pay a girl to stay with me in my bed. Not so much to save the cash because with dinner etc you don't save much. More for the true GFE no money changes hands. Most prive girls that I see tend to be students! Terma girls tend to have very unsocial hours, doesn't work anymore for me.
For anyone that doesn't know what a prive is. It is a small brothel, normally in a commercial building. There are tons of them in Centro, normally they same building. Some are very nice, same rooms or better than the most expensive Termas, some are average. The bigger ones have maybe 12 girls on, the smaller ones maybe 4. The ultra cheap ones are shitty! Thanks for this information Bubba. Can we know which prive you consider the best for that?
I have only do termas, and I'm agree with you, it's very difficult to try to have a contact at the outside of the terma.
I know that we know what we know, but the girl in the last picture's name is Bianca (GDP name) and she works at 4 X 4 (At least as of April / May of this year, last time I was there). I have many photos of her also, face, body, the whole nine, unless we are talking about a body double or something. The tatoo, however and the a$$ets are unquestionably hers. Tiny waist, flat belly, fake boobs, nice tan line and all that A$$. Believe me. She is one spectacular piece of a$$ and one heck of a performer in the cabine or your room. She is a Mineira and I do have her real name, etc. I would not release, she kind of likes her privacy if you know what I mean. If you like them thick and curvy, you can never go wrong with this one if you happen to see her. Nice personality to boot. Maybe we ought to compare notes.
It's a small world because I know the girl in the last picture her name is AMANDA! I can tell by her markings on that ass LOL she use to work at the Monte Carlo don't know IF she is still working there or not I spent some great sessions with her, I was able to get her to come over my apt. A few nights when I was there.
After a few sessions she allowed me to take pictures of her sweet looking face LOL the funny thing is she normally cover up her "tattoo" by placing her hand over it.
Kid Cisco
6) Hooters: I know there's one in Vila Olimpia (São Paulo) but I've heard that the're planning to open new locations before 2014 (especially in Rio)Several years ago I was in the Kennesaw, Ga Hooters. My "server" was being shadowed by a slightly older girl dressed in a Polo style shirt and khaki slacks. Her name tag had "Manager Trainee" on it. I struck up a conversation with her and turns out she was going to be the opening manager for the Sao Paulo Hooters! Seemed odd to me they would send her to Kennesaw for training.
I know that we know what we know, but the girl in the last picture's name is Bianca (GDP name) and she works at 4 X 4 (At least as of April / May of this year, last time I was there). I have many photos of her also, face, body, the whole nine, unless we are talking about a body double or something. The tatoo, however and the a$$ets are unquestionably hers. Tiny waist, flat belly, fake boobs, nice tan line and all that A$$. Believe me. She is one spectacular piece of a$$ and one heck of a performer in the cabine or your room. She is a Mineira and I do have her real name, etc. I would not release, she kind of likes her privacy if you know what I mean. If you like them thick and curvy, you can never go wrong with this one if you happen to see her. Nice personality to boot. Maybe we ought to compare notes.Damn.
You right! I looked back over my old pictures that is her a dime fine ass shit it does look like she gained some weight BUT that is her!
After seeing so many over the years I got her confused with another one I seen at Monte Carlo.
Kid Cisco
I know that we know what we know, but the girl in the last picture's name is Bianca (GDP name) and she works at 4 X 4The fact that she works at 4x4 using the name Bianca doesn't mean that she couldn't also have worked at MC using the name Amanda. I have known many girls to change their GDP names and their work locations.
Eric Cartman
06-18-11, 21:15
So after a week of working 8. 30am-9pm I left early on Friday (6pm LOL) to enjoy Centro. Metro to Uruguiana, walk to T65. On the way, in the street, I see a familiar face (hot, smoking black girl) from 502 in her street clothes heading (I imagine) to work."Oi, tudo bem?" Her surprise turns to a smile.
Get up to the 65 boate around 7pm. Sort of hoping to encounter the hot 22 whyear old (complete with Dragao tatoo) that I've been seeing there (and at my apartment) a few times. She's not there. Boate is packed with guys and girls. But honestly, the rest of the talent is middle of the road. 65's had this problem maybe the last 2 months. My favs have either taken time off (new boob job) or headed to other casas. According to one amiga who left about 4 weeks ago and now works in MC, the issue is that during most of the week there are not a lot of customers. And the ones who do show up are regulars who tend to stick to one girl.
I relax for about 30-40 minutes, trying to figure out if there is anyone else doable. My chick shows up at the 40-min mark. Heads turn as she enters. She sees me while she's in the embrace of some brazilian dude. Give me the eye and tells me to wait. She walks through to the bar and all these guys stare at her LOL. Finally she comes over and we start hanging out. Some older Braz guy next to me, ordering bottles of champage, leans over and tells me I've got one the best choices. I'm like, LOL, obrigado. She sticks me for a red bull and vodka. It's like table stakes I guess. Outstanding 1 hr time in the room. So good that I have to acquiesce when she orders another redbull and vodka. I'm afraid to see my bill LOL. It's 469. The rb / vodkas were R$35 each ouch.
I'm pretty fucking satisfied and it's 9. 30. So I head up the block to the Centro outpost of Esch Cafe, a cigar lounge / restaurant. I know the manager now and he's usually there as they are winding down at 9. 30+. I get there right as they are locking the door, and the doorman has to open it again for me. Inside, I chat with the manager at the bar. He gives me a stogie and opens the kitchen again for me. Steak sandwich with cheese. Strong Cuba libre. About an hour later, I head out, down a 1/2 V, and head to 502.
I'm hoping to see my fav chick there but she's not in. Hasn't been in all week apparently. I'm #172 so it's clear they are having a busy night. Maybe 2-3 doable girls. Talk to 2 I know, trying to figure out what to do, for about 30-40 mins. Finally see a pretty, big-butt black girl. Raisa. We chat a bit and head up for 1 hr. Very great, deep, slobbery BJ in the room. 2 slow, sensuous fucks. 2 loads. Otimo.
Cab home, fully satisfied and relaxed. Total price about R680 between everything. 65. 502 (R210) , R$10 tip to the doorman at 502 (I am buying his drawings, he always does them on the back of the 502 entry cards, and they are all upon my refrigerator now) , cab home (R20). Pricey but that's the impact of top-class T's.
I was so shagged out that I only whacked off 1 time at home (thank you Jules Jordan). In fact, so fucked-out that I couldn't motivate to get up and go to Tijuaca on Saturday morning LOL
Wonderful warm sunny day on my roof deck, cuban cigar, Brahma malzbier. Probably off to MC soon, unless Dragao chick calls me LOL.
-Cartman
The fact that she works at 4x4 using the name Bianca doesn't mean that she couldn't also have worked at MC using the name Amanda. I have known many girls to change their GDP names and their work locations.Lorenzo,
You so right these girls change their names all the time IF one girl goes by Candy or Star at a terma IF a girl was using that name at another terma she have to change it.
BUT, looking back at my old pictures I REMEMBER were I seen that ass before she did go by Bianca at 4x4. The Amanda I seen at Monte Carlo had a FAIRY flying right in that same spot over her ass they both had the same size ass. I tell you what Voyajer1 since you know Bianca well (you will also know her other tattoo is located at right)?
Kid Cisco
Maybe it's a matter of the timelines: When he went to Rio vs when I went to Rio. Plus, their aliases change quite a bit depending where the GDP is working. No problems, friends, just mentioning that if you want to meet her, you know where I saw her last not long ago.
The fact that she works at 4x4 using the name Bianca doesn't mean that she couldn't also have worked at MC using the name Amanda. I have known many girls to change their GDP names and their work locations.
So after a week of working 8. 30am-9pm I left early on Friday (6pm LOL) to enjoy Centro. I was so shagged out that I only whacked off 1 time at home (thank you Jules Jordan). In fact, so fucked-out that I couldn't motivate to get up and go to Tijuaca on Saturday morning LOL
Wonderful warm sunny day on my roof deck, cuban cigar, Brahma malzbier. Probably off to MC soon, unless Dragao chick calls me LOL-CartmanWow thank you I enjoyed this great post, felt like I was there.
So after a week of working 8. 30am-9pm I left early on Friday (6pm LOL) to enjoy Centro. Metro to Uruguiana, walk to T65. On the way, in the street, I see a familiar face (hot, smoking black girl) from 502 in her street clothes heading (I imagine) to work."Oi, tudo bem?" Her surprise turns to a smile.
Get up to the 65 boate around 7pm. Sort of hoping to encounter the hot 22 whyear old (complete with Dragao tatoo) that I've been seeing there (and at my apartment) a few times. She's not there. Boate is packed with guys and girls. But honestly, the rest of the talent is middle of the road. 65's had this problem maybe the last 2 months. My favs have either taken time off (new boob job) or headed to other casas. According to one amiga who left about 4 weeks ago and now works in MC, the issue is that during most of the week there are not a lot of customers. And the ones who do show up are regulars who tend to stick to one girl.
I relax for about 30-40 minutes, trying to figure out if there is anyone else doable. My chick shows up at the 40-min mark. Heads turn as she enters. She sees me while she's in the embrace of some brazilian dude. Give me the eye and tells me to wait. She walks through to the bar and all these guys stare at her LOL. Finally she comes over and we start hanging out. Some older Braz guy next to me, ordering bottles of champage, leans over and tells me I've got one the best choices. I'm like, LOL, obrigado. She sticks me for a red bull and vodka. It's like table stakes I guess. Outstanding 1 hr time in the room. So good that I have to acquiesce when she orders another redbull and vodka. I'm afraid to see my bill LOL. It's 469. The rb / vodkas were R$35 each ouch.
I'm pretty fucking satisfied and it's 9. 30. So I head up the block to the Centro outpost of Esch Cafe, a cigar lounge / restaurant. I know the manager now and he's usually there as they are winding down at 9. 30+. I get there right as they are locking the door, and the doorman has to open it again for me. Inside, I chat with the manager at the bar. He gives me a stogie and opens the kitchen again for me. Steak sandwich with cheese. Strong Cuba libre. About an hour later, I head out, down a 1/2 V, and head to 502.
I'm hoping to see my fav chick there but she's not in. Hasn't been in all week apparently. I'm #172 so it's clear they are having a busy night. Maybe 2-3 doable girls. Talk to 2 I know, trying to figure out what to do, for about 30-40 mins. Finally see a pretty, big-butt black girl. Raisa. We chat a bit and head up for 1 hr. Very great, deep, slobbery BJ in the room. 2 slow, sensuous fucks. 2 loads. Otimo.
Cab home, fully satisfied and relaxed. Total price about R680 between everything. 65. 502 (R210) , R$10 tip to the doorman at 502 (I am buying his drawings, he always does them on the back of the 502 entry cards, and they are all upon my refrigerator now) , cab home (R20). Pricey but that's the impact of top-class T's.
I was so shagged out that I only whacked off 1 time at home (thank you Jules Jordan). In fact, so fucked-out that I couldn't motivate to get up and go to Tijuaca on Saturday morning LOL
Wonderful warm sunny day on my roof deck, cuban cigar, Brahma malzbier. Probably off to MC soon, unless Dragao chick calls me LOL.
-CartmanEsche Cafe and Cigar bar will sometimes stay open until midnight on a Friday if few customers hangout. Again, if this happens, its usually on fridays. Just like they close before 10 pm on Mondays cause things are so slow.
If you haven't been to the one in Leblon, give it a shot.....very enjoyable.....not a bad wine selcetion either. I usually go with a scotch to accompany my cigar, but again, wine and crowd is not bad. Enjoy!
Galenmarek
06-19-11, 00:20
It's a small world because I know the girl in the last picture her name is AMANDA! I can tell by her markings on that ass LOL she use to work at the Monte Carlo don't know IF she is still working there or not I spent some great sessions with her, I was able to get her to come over my apt. A few nights when I was there.
After a few sessions she allowed me to take pictures of her sweet looking face LOL the funny thing is she normally cover up her "tattoo" by placing her hand over it.
Kid CiscoShe told me her name was Bianca, and she still works at 4x4 as of April of this year. She is from my best trip 2009. I had Darline and Aaliyah on the same trip.
The fact that she works at 4x4 using the name Bianca doesn't mean that she couldn't also have worked at MC using the name Amanda. I have known many girls to change their GDP names and their work locations.This is the MC Amanda that I know. This is a clothed photo, but if you look at it closely, you can see where she has a tattoo on her right side. I haven't seen her around for several years. Could be wrong, but I don't think she's working at any of the major termas anymore.
Rock Harders
06-19-11, 05:51
Galenmarek-
Is that first photo you posted pornstar Darlene Amaro?
The other dolphin on her belly, left side at tan line / belly button level? Oh, yes I do! There are very few GDP's worth repeating the price of admission, and among the thick ones, she is definitely one of them. She leaves me with that drained and really satisfied feeling after I'm done sessioning with her. She likes to completely drain once you session with her (At least with me). She sometimes just grabs my hand to go to a cabin after she sits next to me; no words need to be exchanged. She just knows I can't get enough of that a$$. Her a$$ets are big, soft and firm, and what a nice looking face to boot. She is definitely on my top 20 list of providers.
Lorenzo,
You so right these girls change their names all the time IF one girl goes by Candy or Star at a terma IF a girl was using that name at another terma she have to change it.
BUT, looking back at my old pictures I REMEMBER were I seen that ass before she did go by Bianca at 4x4. The Amanda I seen at Monte Carlo had a FAIRY flying right in that same spot over her ass they both had the same size ass. I tell you what Voyajer1 since you know Bianca well (you will also know her other tattoo is located at right)?
Kid Cisco
The other dolphin on her belly, left side at tan line / belly button level? Oh, yes I do! There are very few GDP's worth repeating the price of admission, and among the thick ones, she is definitely one of them. She leaves me with that drained and really satisfied feeling after I'm done sessioning with her. She likes to completely drain once you session with her (At least with me). She sometimes just grabs my hand to go to a cabin after she sits next to me; no words need to be exchanged. She just knows I can't get enough of that a$$. Her a$$ets are big, soft and firm, and what a nice looking face to boot. She is definitely on my top 20 list of providers.That's correct! Voyajer1 LOL LOL we did see the same girl I confuse her with Amanda at Monte Carlo (which was GREAT also) but Bianca at 4x4 she did what she could to hide both of them when I would take pictures of her, BUT after a few more sessions after work at my apt. She didn't care anymore and even let me take pictures of her cute face too. (I promise I wouldn't ever show her face and I haven't either) the funny thing was at the terma she showed me one side of her and back at my apt. She showed me a whole different side of herself which I liked better.
I really try to get guys to get phone numbers of chicks you hit it off with at the termas and try to see them outside of the place you will see a different side of them they let their hair down and won't feel like they are being watch over their shoulders by their boss etc. I was able to get anal from chicks back at my place that WOULDN'T give it to me at the terma WTF? LOL
Kid Cisco
Galenmarek
06-19-11, 11:16
Galenmarek-
Is that first photo you posted pornstar Darlene Amaro?Yes it is her.
Brazil Specialist
06-19-11, 11:43
I have been having luck with the prive girls. They only work like 10 to 6pm, hence have the evenings off. If you screen the ones with 1) No kids 2) No boyfriend: it is relatively easy. There are like 50 decent prives in Rio. Lots and lots of choice, bound to find one you like in short time. The price of a TD (test drive) is only R$50. R$60 for 30 mins, although I usually take the hour which is R$80 to R$100. Anal can be extra at the best places, but once you see them a few times they have always thrown it in as a freebie for me. Once I have seen a girl maybe 2 or 3 times I know if there is any chance of a getting them to come over for free. They are not shy, will tell you very quickly if they really like you. You need to leverage this when you find it. They invite themselves, I never invite them.
For some one like myself who is in bed by say midnight, I like to see prive girls for dinner, a good boning, good sleep then kick them out before 9am so I have the day to myself (They have to be at work by 10am, so another plus here!). I never pay a girl to stay with me in my bed. Not so much to save the cash because with dinner etc you don't save much. More for the true GFE no money changes hands. Most prive girls that I see tend to be students! Terma girls tend to have very unsocial hours, doesn't work anymore for me. I don't have too much luck with getting these girls to meet outside. It seems easiest to get them at their work place.
Actually, they work all day long, Monday through Saturday, sometimes Friday. Some long bus rides home. Most of them are not out of the closet, and live with mom. At least the young innocent type I like (maybe this is the problem!).
If they are students, as you said, that means they are busy from 7 am to midnight, every day. Or from 4 am to 9 pm, if they study early in the morning.
Sunday they have to spend with family, and to run errands. They can not explain to mom why on earth they would sleep out. I had girls leaving at almost midnight, for a dangerous bus ride through gaza strip and other war zones to get home. I told them if I was their dad or mom, I would never let them take a bus at that time and would prefer them to sleep out.
The other dolphin on her belly, left side at tan line / belly button level?This is an old picture of a girl going by "Donna" over at L'uomo. She's still there. I saw her during my last trip, but did not recognize her at first (more mature look, different hair, little more weight) until I saw the dolphin on her bunda.
She told me that she was 20 years old at the time that I met her, and is the source of one of the many, many funny memories I have of Rio. I was in the boite having a drink, and she comes up and sits next to me and says,"Fuck me in the ass and make my dolphin chirp." LOL!
Well, as I said in the report that I did at the time, I did my level best to get that thing to do it's best Flipper impersonation! I distinctly remember some very loud squealing in the cabine. Only, I wasn't sure if it was Donna's dolphin . . . or me as a I busted a nut in her butt!
I reminded her of what she said way back when, and we both broke out laughing. I didn't do her this last time. There was way too much new booty on duty to be had.
Member #4243
06-19-11, 23:25
Hi based in england,
I have done a number of trips to german fkk clubs. At the moment I am considering a trip to Rio mainly to try the high end termas and experience Rio for the first time. I am 36 and up until now have travelled throughout western and eastern europe. I am tempted by Rio termas such as luomo. Centaurus etc. I have read many reports saying Rio in the south tourist area is generally safe night / day, and that one should keep away from favelas etc.
I have also read about Copacabana scammers and even the possibility of hearing gunfire at night from copa from the favelas. The issue I have is that I do not fear for my own physical safety, having spent time when younger in "bad" neighbourhoods I can deal with scammers etc, what is bothering me given all the above would I be able to fully relax; enjoy the termas having to be so aware of potential problems etc? I am finding this point quite hard to put into
Perspective and would really appreciate some assistance on this one but more than just a one sentence response. Thanks alot mohab.
How about the pictures and report of all the white corncock you had on your last trip? As promised.
I am back in hooker pardise tomorrow, would like to see your feed back. I also like anal but as complemtary to the whole sex experience. I am not a connoissseur as you obviously are. I am afraid, that were it to develop into an obsession it might be considered gay.
What do you thinK?Please don't bait this guy. The thread's turned into a circle jerk and on the way ignore as it is.
Eric Cartman
06-20-11, 01:15
So after my Friday Night Fun, I was kind of shagged out and slept in until noon. Not feeling a Tijuca trip. So I did my typical Saturday food run: botequim downstairs for frango na chapa com arroz e legumes (R$13) , Copa Lima sucos for Tangerina copao sem acucar (R$6) , Biscuit cafe (2 double espressos. 3 doces para viagem. R$20). Shaping up to be a fine day. Spent time in the sun on the roof deck, smoked 2 cubans and hit up some brazil dating sites.
Around 7. 45pm headed out to Monte Carlo. Got there a little after 8 and it was pretty empty. Maybe 10 guys and a surprisingly low number of girls. One of the girls I knew said that about 20 chicks hadn't turned up for work that day. Talking to the manager later he said that Junho is always slow but that things pick back up into August when the Italians and other Europeans go on holiday to Brazil.
The good news is that with the slowdown, one tall, slim, fit girl I'd had my eyes on for a few weeks was available. Last 3 times she's been wrapped around one punter or another. Shoulder length black hair, fake boobies, super fit / thin, big sort of Thai looking symbol tattoo on her lower back. Goes by Estrela in the joint. (wink: not her real name LOL). Had a good chat with her but wanted to wait to see who else might turn up. 30 mins later, having brushed off at least 3 heinous chicks, I got back to her. Sidebar: the chick who bit my nuts sat next to me! WTF! I'm like, my gosh do you even know how bad that was? She seemed oblivious. I tensed up, my body language is saying "get the fuck away from me" and she wants to have a chat. Arg. So I delicately try to say something like,"You know, I think we're just not a good fit together." I probably butcher it in Porto and she doesn't get it. I have to go more direct and tell her, I don't think we should sit together. She gets 100% pissy, starts telling me how it's just work for her and we're all just clients, etc. I'm like, wow I think that was part of your problem (inside voice).
I also have to brush off another heinous MC chick who always approaches me and I always blow her off. I flat out remind her of this. "We've talked before. Three times. And every time we have this same conversation." She says she can't remember because "so many guys come here." I'm like, well jeez I remember you. It's 100% worse because she insists on talking to me in English. That's the one thing I hate about MC. These chicks automatically assume you are a gringo tourist. I'm in there 1-2 times per week, and it still happens.
Anyway, Estrela and I go talk in the corridor. And kiss. And play. I ask her what she likes in the room, and we go through a little list. For "bunda" I lightly place my hands on her butt and she smiles. Giddayap! 1 hour in the room. Great deep BJ with eye contact. Her kitty is shaved (except for a V patch in front) and beautiful and delicious. We're 69-ing and she starts poking her finger in her butthole. Game time! I ease in and she basically demands that I put my whole unit into her. Serious pounding my friends. And hair pulling. And mirror-looking. All de quatro (doggie). I did some of my best work on her bum, as BubbaBoy would say I was a Borredor (which apparently is borer-of-buttholes). Then on the the buscetta for some frontal fun. Ending with her taking a shot to the mouth on her knees. Good girl. More talking, rubbing, and I squeak one more out before the phone rings. She'd be perfect if it wasn't for the not-awesome fake boobies and the 6 year-old kid (she's 24). That said, she's pretty awesome.
Head down to the showers, hit the steam room, and resurface in the boate. I'm sitting there chilling when Sarah, tall fitness model type (does Arabian dances there) comes in. She sits with me, we make out, I'm happy so I let her get a drink (Red Bull, arg!). Then Estrela comes back. And she sits on my other side. And we all start making out in a 3-way kiss. And then the girls just start making out with each other. I'm talking deep soul-sucking french kisses, titty licking, etc. Right over me. This goes on for like 20 mins and I'm digging it so much I even let Estrela get another drink (Red Bull and vodka, arg!). When she comes back, she moves my hand under her when she sits down so she's pressing her coochie against it the whole time we are kissing, she's kissing sarah, etc. The female manager of MC is about 5 feet away and looking over with a mix of amusement and concern LOL. Of course at this point it's like 11pm and there's maybe 4-5 other guys tops in the boate. The girls try to talk me back upstairs for a 3-way but I point out I already dropped 2 loads with Estrela and "a fonte esta seca". The spring is dry. Next time.
I leave and I'm fully happy and my faith is RESTORED in MC. Minha fe esta restaurada! Seriously. I mean this was what high-end Terma stuff is about, just sitting there with a hard-body chick on each side of you making out for 30 mins after you pounded one of them in the butt and dropped a load in her mouth. Fun times.
Total bill was R$469 or so for my 1 hr session and the drinks. Because I'm registered and keep getting free entrances. So not bad, overall, relative to what I paid at 65 the other night. Given the # of drinks I bought for the girls, and the caipirinha I had myself. (Note to self. Don't confuse "cadastrado" registered with "castrado" LOL. Recepionist had a good laugh at that one!).
So anyway, I get home, throw a little Lex The Impaler 5 on VLC to take the edge off, and stay up way too late til like 3am. I'm awoken at 10am Sunday by a buzzing text on my phone. My galpal from Luomo says she's in Copa and wants to come over in 30 minutes. I'm like, uh, OK. (Rule number one. Terma chick wants to visit on Sunday, say yes). I shower up, she arrives, we go off for breakfast and a walk along the beach. Turns into drinks on my roof deck. And then we shower up for some playtime. Probably spend 2 hours in my bedroom playing around, she takes 2 shots in the mouth like a good girl, and she probably comes like 3-4 times (thank you dedos magicos). Then we go grab a picanha for 2 at a local joint that has dark beer on tap. And then she goes to work at Luomo at like 5pm.
So all in all, a pretty fun-filled weekend for the Cartman. Now I'm going to go play video games to complete it. Yeah baby!
-Cartman
Member #3439
06-20-11, 16:25
hi based in england,
i have also read about copacabana scammers and even the possibility of hearing gunfire at night from copa from the favelas. the issue i have is that i do not fear for my own physical safety, having spent time when younger in "bad" neighbourhoods i can deal with scammers etc, what is bothering me given all the above would i be able to fully relax; enjoy the termas having to be so aware of potential problems etc? i am finding this point quite hard to put into
perspective and would really appreciate some assistance on this one but more than just a one sentence response. thanks alot mohab. there is a rio crime and safety thread here but i think it is so full of negativity that it misrepresents rio. but you should check it out anyway, and realize most of those things don't happen to most people.
you will have no trouble relaxing in zona sul if you follow basic rules that you'd follow in any other major city. the places that you are wanting to hang out at are 100% safe and relaxing, that's why they cost so much! see eric cartman's post below, the man is the star patron of mc, proally has his picture on the wall..haha. balcony is also safe and relaxing. luomo, etc. go to bar 22 if you want to feel like you are in brasil. see my back posts for directions and critique, june 2009 and 2010 i think. maybe you should ask someone experienced in fkk whether it's worth the effort to go to rio for a sex based trip. i get the impression that fkk have everything sexually that rio does, even brasileiras.
btw, most people here think centaurus is a rip-off so you might want to read the back posts on that place. and on the topic of gunfire, just don't hang out in the favelas and you should be fine. safe places versus unsafe places are fairly apparent in rio for anyone like yourself with urban travel experience. even some of the places that look unsafe are safe. i spend most of my mongering time walking centro at night from place to place, which is totally different than zona sul. almost every carioca i've talked to on the subject says they won't walk there at night. it looks unsafe, due to the filth and few people around, but no one has really bothered me. i don't look brasilian either. the one time that someone tried to approach me, i did something a little crazy like something a madman would do, and they walked the other way. maybe it's the gringos like me that cause cariocas to be afraid to walk in centro at night..haha. in my opinion, it's safer than equivalent areas in any major us city, but i don't know what you are used to in england or the rest of europe because my experience there is very limited. but coming from the usa perspective i can say rio (all over) is really safe all compared with (all over) chicago, indianapolis, detroit, for example. if i was a foreigner here in the us wandering about in bad looking areas like i do in rio, i'd be dead by now. but brasil isn't like that. brasilieros don't really seem to mess with people for sport or because of race, and only target people who seem vulnerable to whatever scam they are running. just act street smart like you know where you are going, and you can travel all over rio no problem.
zona sul is full of tourists and very safe. even old couples come there to visit. the dangers in copa are getting hit by a car (very easy, i've already used up 2 of my 9 lives in near misses with cars that turn off streets at high speed with no turn signal) or catching an sti. so don't trust the drivers, you as the pedestrian don't have the right of way and they will hit you. sometimes it seems they are trying to, i don't think there is a penalty for vehicular manslaughter there! look before you cross the street, and look again for fast cornering cars. always insist on bbbj foreplay and cim finish because it's your duty to uphold these traditions, but for vag and ass cover your piru so you don't have to come here making the post of shame asking us where to pick up some azitromicinia. haha :) boa viagem!
BTW, most people here think Centaurus is a rip-off so you might want to read the back posts on that place. And onAlthough I have many fond memories of this place (it was my first termas experience, and I have met some freaky girls there), I finally am ready to come down on the side of the guys who say this place's best days are gone, at least for now.
It's just too damn expensive. Somebody must have pissed somebody else off, and now they have to pay higher protection fees or something. LOL! It's R$120 just to get in. An hour session, which is what I like, is well over R$500 now! I went to Centaurus two times last trip (looking for Talita) and did one session out of those two visits. Throw in taxis and drinks, and I spent around R$725 that day to get that hour session!
And, I really have to ask why (other than being horny LOL!). I mean, Centaurus doesn't have the best collection of talent in town. I would say the most smokin' babe I met last trip was at Termas 502, A TIER 2 TERMA!
And other places have facilities that are the equivalent or better than what you can find at Centaurus. The robes at Centaurus are so damn raggedy I had to try on 3 each time I went there last trip just to find something I could/wanted to wear!
The club has a special place in my heart because it was my first, and I'll probably always stop in, at least to have a drink and check out the talent. But I swear to God, if I'm going to session there, it better be with some proven talent, or that tute better be so off the chain that I just can't resist her!
Member #3439
06-20-11, 17:56
A.
And, I really have to ask why (other than being horny LOL!). I mean, Centaurus doesn't have the best collection of talent in town. I would say the most smokin' babe I met last trip was at Termas 502, A TIER 2 TERMA! I think that's not so surprising. My best experiences have been at Flavia Massagems in Centro (RIP, wiping my tears) and Bar 22 in Copa, both very low end places selling at 1/4 of Tier 1 prices. Both short term girls who hadn't worked there long, and didn't work there long thereafter before leaving. I think they were so new to ho'ing that they didn't now how to make sex like a veteran ho, and just really got into it and were carefree (like a virgin...touched for the very first time..haha) rather than acting professional or jaded. Not sure what you mean by smokin. I've had girls that were 9's and wanted to give CBJ and CFS for R400. That's a real ho IMO when she isn't even into the sex enough to do a low risk BBBJ the way Deus intended, and would rather suck on a rubber. To me the fact that she is sucking off a guy she is scared of to the point of covering his dick makes her a hardcore ho and not worth the time to fuck her. I put on my clothes and walked out of Luomo in February and got a half refund due to a smoking hot looking girl pulling a rubber out before she would blow me. WTF...I was pissed.
I've had girls who were 7's and wanting to give it all up anyway you like it for 1/4 the price of the 9's that were primadonnas. Smokin service is very important. If she's a model type that's nice, but my dick has only one eye so he doesn't see too well, pretty much color blind and mostly focuses on how well the girl can work her pink parts. I get more raw sex in the low end places, so they are more fun or smokin hot for me. others may agree or ymmv. As for smokin looks, actually the most exotic looking and hot girl I have found in Rio was working in BA85. 9 body, and did her makeup in a strange way that really did it for me. BA85, strange but true. I am a sucker for a good presentation and will instantly pick up a girl with exotic makeup or clothes, so had high hopes, but she was a lousy lay and wouldn't even allow pix. Enough of them. Give me raw GFE 7/10 in the casas with no strings attached. Fuck like animal in this casa, go eat a late lunch, fuck like animal in that casa, drink a little, have a snack, go pickup a FL at Balcony and take her back for more fuck, then sleep over. That's a good time. Better than paying out my days budget for a Centaurus girl.
Eric Cartman
06-21-11, 04:11
So of course I went back to MC tonight to see Estrela again. One long hour (probaby 5-10 mins over) which was actually better than the first time. She had me use my hands to DP her, which was interesting. Eu comi o cu dela, gostoza. She took a few shots in the mouth too like a good girl. Fun time had by all.
And only R$375 this time, would have been R$370 without my agua com gas. Cause she didn't get to pimp me for drinks, and I had another free entrada. So all in all, that's a pretty good deal. Especially as the Cartman is lazy and MC is about 5 mins from my office on my way home to my apartment. Had to give her a mini-lecture about trying to talk to me in English though. Hate it.
Heads up kiddies: Thursday is a holiday (Santo Christo or something). Casas will be fechada. Thought I think Luomo remains open.
-Cartman
This place has the same owner of Bel prazer and some other massage place in Tijuca.
I went back to take a look at the line up again. Isabelle was back from having th flu, and she is a cute looking spinner. Juliana has a sweet smile. Manuela has a F**k face and good body as well, so I took her for a drive. Not bad, but not worth a repeat.
I was able to go take Kelly into the cabina for an hour this week. She is a very pretty mulata clara at Bel Prazer. She has a great big ass if you like that, however, she was somewhat timid. That doesn't work for me, I like them to be a real safadinha!
Raquel at Bel Prazer looks a bit more worn out as compared to a couple of years ago, however, she is a machine in the sack. Wow, what energy. She really gets into sloppy BJ's. And I approve of that :)
I visited Duda Massagens last night, only five girls available for line up, others were occupied. Nothing got my juices flowing, so I left. I will give it another try later this week, or next. But from what I saw as compared to last years line up, the talent is no where near the same at Duda's. Gosh, I really miss Carol from that place. One of my all time favorite morenas, and man did she give you all she had with that incredible body. Thats all for now.
Will be checking out termas some time soon. Ti'll then, chau!
Member #3439
06-22-11, 16:49
One long hour (probaby 5-10 mins over) which was actually better than the first time. She had me use my hands to DP her, which was interesting. Eu comi o cu dela, gostoza. She took a few shots in the mouth too like a good girl. Fun time had by all.
-CartmanWe know what she's eating, but what are you eating? Lots of farofa and milk or something? . Even in my teens I never had more than 3 decent shots to give all day, including reload time, before running dry and could never machine gun like that. It is still about the same and I ration my shots across multiple girls / sessions so I can spread the love around with reload in between. Understandably you can't do that at MC prices, so run a different style, but I'm just wondering what health routines make a few gobble shots per hour possible.
Mangera,
Thanks for the Centro report. 19? I don't remember seeing the location and prices for that posted here before. How long has that been open? I want to visit when I come back to Rio in a few months, if I can find the place.
Esche Cafe and Cigar bar will sometimes stay open until midnight on a Friday if few customers hangout. Again, if this happens, its usually on fridays. Just like they close before 10 pm on Mondays cause things are so slow.
If you haven't been to the one in Leblon, give it a shot. Very enjoyable. Not a bad wine selcetion either. I usually go with a scotch to accompany my cigar, but again, wine and crowd is not bad. Enjoy! Eshe cafe will on occasion, depending on customers, will close between 10pm and 10:30pm on Fridays. Not at midnight as I had previously posted. Thanks
I am taking my first trip to Rio in August, and I would like a professional wingman or guide that can help me find my way around. Does anyone know of a reputable guide?
Rio Me Ever
06-22-11, 21:15
Will the Centro termas like 4X4 be open on Thursday seeing how it is a holiday?
Thanks.
So of course I went back to MC tonight to see Estrela again. One long hour (probaby 5-10 mins over) which was actually better than the first time. She had me use my hands to DP her, which was interesting. Eu comi o cu dela, gostoza. She took a few shots in the mouth too like a good girl. Fun time had by all.
And only R$375 this time, would have been R$370 without my agua com gas. Cause she didn't get to pimp me for drinks, and I had another free entrada. So all in all, that's a pretty good deal. Especially as the Cartman is lazy and MC is about 5 mins from my office on my way home to my apartment. Had to give her a mini-lecture about trying to talk to me in English though. Hate it.
Heads up kiddies: Thursday is a holiday (Santo Christo or something). Casas will be fechada. Thought I think Luomo remains open.
-Cartman
Here my personal experiences on my Rio trip. Your Mileage May Vary.
Preparation: print out of the Bubba report. Including maps. And the Sperto doc on places in Centro. This print out of the Bubba report was worth its weight in gold! Thank you very much Bubba for taking the effort to provide this excellent information.
Lodging: first days Ipanema Inn: 140 US$ as day. Booked in advance. Ipanema Inn is a nice hotel, it is basic but has everything needed. Private bath room and it is clean. Bad thing about this hotel is that at the end of your trip they charge 10% as service. But you can refuse. I like staying in Ipanema, I don't like Copacabana. In Ipanema I walk the street at 11 pm and feel safe.
Later I stayed in an individual apartment in Ipanema: 200 R$ a day plus 50 R$ cleaning at the end of the stay. It was a standard Rio apartment. Everything was available but it was small and a bit worn out. I did not book the apartment in advance. It was not easy to find one. Wish I had booked in advance the hotel for the complete trip. Less hassle and less waste of time. Also found out that booking a hotel in advance is much cheaper then booking on the spot.
Day 1.
Arriving late in the afternoon at international airport. Took the bus to Ipanema. Bus can be found just outside the airport building. Advantage: cheep 9 R$. Taxi is about 50 R$. Disadvantage: takes about 2 times longer to get to destination. About 1. 75 hours. Other disadvantage is that you also have to know were to get off and bus is not easy when carrying a big bag. Warning: do not book a taxi inside the airport. There are several little offices insdie that offer a taxi for 100 R$ If you take a taxi: go outside or even better go to 2nd floor and then go outside.
Always ask for a taxi to put on the meter and do check if it is really on. On weekdays the meter is on "1". In the evening and in the weekend it is on "2". Also at the end of the trip they take out a printed table to convert the price into a somewhat higher price. At first I thought it was a trick, but in the hotel I was told it was normal.
Went to Luomo at about 9 pm. Taxi driver did not know the exact direction. Had to walk and search last end myself. Not nice at that time in Copacabana. Lot of dark girls in Luomo. Not my type. No offence mend. Also I don't like the very loud music they have in a lot of boites. Picked out Barbara. Slim, white girl and great kissing in the boite. Turned out to be a mistake. Her breast were ugly. 2 kids. And she was acting difficult. Bad performance. She got me so far that I ordered in the room for a drink. Before I could tell she ordered tequila for herself. I couldn't even have a nip from the tequila, although I was the one who paid. She said: well, you did pay it for ME! Ooops, how could I have been such a fool!
The bill at Luomo included a "Comissao de Bar". Yet another way to get money! Also drinks were not that cheap. As in all termas- : bear R$8, water R$5. At some termas I was asked for tips by the staff. I never, never gave. Only tipped dress room ladies in Solarium, T65 and Luomo 5R$. They did not ask and behaved nice.
Day 2
Went to Solarium. To my opinion Solarium has the best quality of girls. As well in attitude as in looks. Had a very good session with Alexis. Great girl.
Day 3.
Went to Solarium. Had a another, very good session with Alexis.
Day 4.
Inspection of Centro. Went by Metro. The metro in Rio is really great. It is cheap, safe and reliable. To go Luomo or Monte Carlo by Metro stop at "Siqueira Campos" in Copacabana. To go to Centro stop at Urugaiana, Carioca or Cinelandia. Depending on were you want to go. I went to Centro in the afternoon. Wanted to check out the place in daylight. It did feel safe in the afternoon. Checked out 4x4, Cancun, T502. T502 is less tourist then the other two termas I went to, but you must see, even though it was not really my style. No offence mend and maybe I am too scared. Action starts at T502 at about 7pm and the girls are wild. Pole dancing there was pure pornography! Went back to 4x4. Nice thing is that they recognized me and didn't charge for 2nd entrance on the same day. To my opinion 4x4 offers the best price / quality ration and there are a lot of girls you can pick. Had a good session with Gisela. Went home at about 10pm. Did take a taxi.
Day 5.
Went to Solarium. Unfortunately it was closed. Some electricity problems. Went to Monte Carlo. Nice place. Almost had a session with Isabella. But she failed the test. When I put my tongue in her mouth she started choking and complained it was too big. I didn't pick another girl. On my way out something worth mentioning occurred. There were two Americans. I already spotted them in the boite. They were wild and having lots of fun. Ok, that is what you are for in Rio. But now as they were leaving they were behaving very tourist. Wearing shorts and flip-flops at 12pm. They wanted to pay by credit card. Not that smart to my opinion: you pay lot more. All cards of one of these Americans failed and also his friends card failed. They had no cash at all. Lot of trying and excuses. Staff a MC behaved correct and they offered the Americans to go to the managers office to call the credit card company. I don't know how it ended, but I would not prefer being in a terma not being able to pay the bill!
Day 6.
Inspection of Centro. I went to some termas over Avenida President Vargas. As described in the Bubba report, MV30, Terma 31, etc. Not really my style but you must visit. No offence mend and maybe I am too scared.
Went to 4x4. Had another session with Gisela. Not as good as first time, so this also was the last time with her. Went home at about 10 pm. Went home by metro. Although it was late it felt reasonable safe. I do not dress like a tourist and I knew were to go. Just joined some brasilian office clerks walking to the metro station and walked as if I did belong in Centro.
Day 7.
Inspection of Centro. I did check out a number of Casas de Massagems as mentioned in Sperto's document. Went to the casas on Rio Branco 156, sala 3320 and 2622 and Rio Branco 185, sala 2114. Rio Branca 181, sala 801 was moved to "Rua the Conceinao 19, sobre loja". At first I was a little bit puzzled how the system works at these casas. For example Rio Branco 156, sala 3320 means 33th floor, office number 20. But the elevator only went to 30th floor. Once there you have to pick a second elevator. Then you have to find the office and ring the bell. Once you get in the door is locked and all the girls are presented. One by one. It was not really my style. No offence mend and maybe I am too scared.
Went to T65 and had a good session with Tamara. Went home at about 10pm. Did take a taxi.
Day 8.
Inspection of Tijuca and Villa Mimosa. Went with Metro to Tijuca. Went to Tigresas Tijcanas. Did not like to go in, did not like the area. Maybe I am too scared.
Went to Villa Mimosa. First with metro to Cao Cristovao. The station and the surroundings were loaded with people. Taxi to Villa Mimosa. In VM one guy heavily pucking in front of me. Nobody give a damn. I didn't like the place. No offence mend and maybe I am too scared. Although there was one cutie. I took me quite a while before finding a taxi back to the metro station. Did not like that.
Went to T65 and had a another session with Tamara. Not that good, so it also was the last session I had with her. Went home at about 10pm. Did walk back to metro.
Day 9.
Went to Solarium. Had a another, very good session with Alexis.
Day 10.
Went to Solarium. Had a another, very good session with Alexis.
Day 11.
Last day, Went to Solarium. Alexis was not there, which was a pity as not being able to exchange contact information. Maybe anyone on this forum can ask here and PM me her e-mail or telephone nr. Yes, maybe I am not only scared sometimes, but also sentimental. By the way: tell her my name is Sam and I am from Allemania. Germany.
Overall.
I had a good time in Rio. I didn't go to Centraurus, as I refuse to pay these prices. And as I will not pay in advance. Rio felt pretty safe, but it is not cheap. For the places I visited: I think that if you go more often to Rio you will find yourself more comfortable in the cheap places in Centro. In this report I did not include all the tourist things I visited: you must really do so when in Rio.
Will the Centro termas like 4X4 be open on Thursday seeing how it is a holiday?
Thanks. They will definitely be closed on Thursday. I was down at Centro on Tuesday discussing this very issue with the girls. The girls were of the opinion that they should just shut Friday as well because there won't be many customers. Hence expect a skeleton crew if you go Friday.
Eric Cartman
06-23-11, 03:32
We know what she's eating, but what are you eating? Lots of farofa and milk or something? . Even in my teens I never had more than 3 decent shots to give all day, including reload time, before running dry and could never machine gun like that. It is still about the same and I ration my shots across multiple girls / sessions so I can spread the love around with reload in between. Understandably you can't do that at MC prices, so run a different style, but I'm just wondering what health routines make a few gobble shots per hour possible.Well to be fair, in the cited instance my "few" was a substitute for "two".2 shots. That's usually doable for me in an hour, either through nasty thoughts or a combination of nasty thoughts and self abuse. I'm 41 and there's no secret really. I won't say anything about volume. I mean, sometimes a puff of smoke comes out. But it still counts!
-Cartman
Eric Cartman
06-23-11, 03:42
Great report bro. You were very adventurous for a first-timer, seriously.
Couple notes:
1) the Taxi "Chart" is new since a few months ago. Rio raised all the taxi rates but they're too lazy to adjust all the taximeters, so they printed out charts and gave them to tall Taxi drivers who consult the chart at the end of a trip to figure out how to adjust up the meter to the new fare. Yes, it's lame.
2) Luomo has had poor quality chicks lately, sorry you found out the hard way. I am of two minds on the bar commission. I never tip the bartender, so I understand why they want a little "taste." It would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off more if I ordered more than R$5 waters (which do [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off).
3) Amazed you had a great time repeatedly at Solarium as my last 2-3 trips there have been complete disasters (though granted on weekends). As you seem to have found out, all it takes is 1 girl with whom you click. Why did you like it so much?
4) MC: "When I put my tongue in her mouth she started choking and complained it was too big." Are you sure it was your tongue? . That's an odd reaction. Still, there are a lot of girls there too bad you didn't hit another. Re shorts & flipflops. I usually walk home from MC at 11-midnight in shorts / flipflops. I kind of look like I came from the gym. I do this at least once per week, about 10 mins walk down Nossa Senhora. I don't feel touristy per se.
On the other hand, tonight at MC while I was waiting for my chick to emerge, these 3 big American-type tourists came upstairs -- I'm talking fat/round, maybe late 50s/early 60s, loud, drunk, no Porto ... and with 3 HEINOUS chicks, I mean it was like they picked the fatty mc fatties in the boate ... the girls who I always wonder how they get customers ... and I'm like, ugh, this is what everyone thinks of me, I guess, as an American. Even my chick later was hassling me over my "American" accent speaking Porto, and how I pronounce "r"s at the end of words (falar, habilitar, estar, etc.). Dang.
5) Metro. Yeh usually you can take the metro back until midnight. It really is one of the safest places in all Rio. And from most centro T's the walk there isn't too bad. Next time skip the cabs if you have and you'll save some dough.
Overall, great stuff.
-Cartman.
Here my personal experiences on my Rio trip. Your Mileage May Vary.
Preparation: print out of the Bubba report. Including maps. And the Sperto doc on places in Centro. This print out of the Bubba report was worth its weight in gold! Thank you very much Bubba for taking the effort to provide this excellent information.
Being that today is a hoilday in Brasil, I am sure many people will have some available time to surf the net. I just took a look at the Hotside site, and something caught my attention. I noticed that slowly, but surely, more gp's are beginning to show their faces or once you click on their initial picture, it leads you to their info. Along with a picture of uncovered face. Not all, but some, which in the past was a rare thing.
BTW, seems as Hotside now has a new format. Nice!
http://www.hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-rio-de-janeiro-rj.html
Hi Guys.
I'm a novice at this! Went to Rio in May and was recommended to go to Barbarellas. Hooked up with a girl who called herself Cristina. Quite short, slim buld but very friendly. Had a great time back at my hotel. I'm going back again on business in July and wonder if she is still working there? Or can anyone reccomend anywhere else?
Member #3439
06-23-11, 17:21
Day 4.
Inspection of Centro. Went by Metro. The metro in Rio is really great. It is cheap, safe and reliable. To go Luomo or Monte Carlo by Metro stop at "Siqueira Campos" in Copacabana. To go to Centro stop at Urugaiana, Carioca or Cinelandia. Depending on were you want to go. I went to Centro in the afternoon. Wanted to check out the place in daylight. It did feel safe in the afternoon. Checked out 4x4, Cancun, T502. T502 is less tourist then the other two termas I went to, but you must see, even though it was not really my style. No offence mend and maybe I am too scared. Action starts at T502 at about 7pm and the girls are wild. Pole dancing there was pure pornography! Went back to 4x4. Nice thing is that they recognized me and didn't charge for 2nd entrance on the same day. To my opinion 4x4 offers the best price / quality ration and there are a lot of girls you can pick. Had a good session with Gisela. Went home at about 10pm. Did take a taxi. Nice report! Well rounded trip, for sure.
All these places are safe, except maybe the girls at T502. :) But I do them and recommend you to take a session at 502 next time. The volume of the music is a little much, but I guess the objective is to drive you upstairs with a girl as soon as possible. The attachment on the metro line switch to VM is important, I want to bring attention to that. Glad to see that you got hooked on a girl, Alexis. It isn't a good trip if you don't find at least one girl that is good enough to cause that feeling.
these 3 big American-type tourists came upstairsI am over in the far east and encountered a family of big American type French speaking tourists today. My asian friends commented that they must be Americans, so big and tall, although they were speaking French very loudly. Hmm. Then it struck me..maybe the stereotype is based on people who are not even Americans. People in Asia and Brasil think I am German. I ask why, they always say because I'm white and don't talk much. hmmm.
To Those Who might have the Experience.
Which country of the above is most recommended when the following factors are taken into account:
- value for money, I. E. Expenses for acommodation and food etc.
- Girls, in terms of looks, access, services, attitude, hornyness and of course value for money.
- weather in December to February.
- english language skills.
- crime.
Would be very grateful for answers. Have a nice day. Ciao.
To Those Who might have the Experience.
Which country of the above is most recommended when the following factors are taken into account:
- value for money, I. E. Expenses for acommodation and food etc.
- Girls, in terms of looks, access, services, attitude, hornyness and of course value for money.
- weather in December to February.
- english language skills.
- crime.
Would be very grateful for answers. Have a nice day. Ciao.
Brazil wins when it comes to the girls and nice weather.
Besides this Brazil is comparetively expensive, low English skills and has more crimes.
I remember you asked before regarding your tight budget. I think you should skip Brazil.
Brazil wins when it comes to the girls and nice weather.
Besides this Brazil is comparetively expensive, low English skills and has more crimes.
I remember you asked before regarding your tight budget. I think you should skip Brazil. Sperto; thank you very much for the answer. Yeah, I thought about the prior posts and figured Brazil would be pretty cool but expensive. Of course, I could always throw in some extra dough (from my hard earned money) but how deep digging its worth I don't know. So it got me thinking what more alternatives there are in SA. Now, when the World Cup and Olympics are coming up as well the hotels in Brazil are not afraid to charge I guess. Anyways, I reckon Mexico and Argentina are rather equal then, a preference of personal matter. Tequila or lamb meat, hugo sanchez or maradona.
Anyways, I reckon Mexico and Argentina are rather equal then, a preference of personal matter. Tequila or lamb meat, hugo sanchez or maradona.Roughly speaking most of mexican girls are mestizo (mixed european and native american heritage or descent). In the other hand Buenos Aires is full with skinny white girls. As you said a matter of personal preference.
Brazil wins when it comes to the girls and nice weather.
Besides this Brazil is comparetively expensive, low English skills and has more crimes.
I remember you asked before regarding your tight budget. I think you should skip Brazil. I second that but IMHO Mexico has more crimes than Brazil. On english skills Brazil has a lot to improve especially because Olympics and World Cup will be held soon however Argentina has the same problem though.
Sperto; thank you very much for the answer. Yeah, I thought about the prior posts and figured Brazil would be pretty cool but expensive. Of course, I could always throw in some extra dough (from my hard earned money) but how deep digging its worth I don't know. So it got me thinking what more alternatives there are in SA. Now, when the World Cup and Olympics are coming up as well the hotels in Brazil are not afraid to charge I guess. Anyways, I reckon Mexico and Argentina are rather equal then, a preference of personal matter. Tequila or lamb meat, hugo sanchez or maradona.You may want to consider Columbia.
Back in Rio for 3 weeks work and festa. Just trying to remember / revise my porto over the weekend before tasting of the delights of the brasileira on Monday.
I'd be grateful for any advice from residents or recent visitors on which cambios are giving the best rates in Copa and Centro at the moment?
MABS is now refurbished and opened again, is it worth checking out?
I stopped by Balcony on Friday night after arriving for a drink and to see what was on offer these days. Not much, but it was early (9/10 pm) and the girls were just arriving. What was there was a bit of a mixed bag. The standout, quite literally based on the size of her tits, was Gleice / Gracey? (I didn't quite catch her name). Morena. Short. Big tits. Big ass. From Amazonas but lived in Rio for 11 years. I decided to talk to her to practice my porto. All the alarms started ringing. She wanted to talk in English. Had been to the US 3 times to work as a stripper. Was about to go to London in July for a month. Pushy, wanted a drink straight away. Spent our brief time talking looking around to see what else was going on. I gave up. I wasn't intending to session that night. Does anybody have any intel on this garota? I'm guessing she has been around on the scene for a while. This is normally a bad sign for service? . Only I am tempted to go back for her. What a body!
MABS is now refurbished and opened again, is it worth checking out?
I stopped by Balcony on Friday night after arriving for a drink and to see what was on offer these days. Not much, but it was early (9/10 pm) and the girls were just arriving. What was there was a bit of a mixed bag. The standout, quite literally based on the size of her tits, was Gleice / Gracey? (I didn't quite catch her name). Morena. Short. Big tits. Big ass. From Amazonas but lived in Rio for 11 years. I decided to talk to her to practice my porto. All the alarms started ringing. She wanted to talk in English. Had been to the US 3 times to work as a stripper. Was about to go to London in July for a month. Pushy, wanted a drink straight away. Spent our brief time talking looking around to see what else was going on. I gave up. I wasn't intending to session that night. Does anybody have any intel on this garota? I'm guessing she has been around on the scene for a while. This is normally a bad sign for service? . Only I am tempted to go back for her. What a body! Had lunch at MABS yesterday (Saturday). It seems to have gone the way of Meia Pataca. You see the occasional service provider but mostly just regular folks now. And the prices, to me, seem WAY high. The dish I had, steak au pouvire (sp?) w / rosti potatoes was about average for the Atlantica restaurants as far as quality, R$52. They have a picture of "The Four Marks Brothers" on the wall inside. I mentioned to one of the waitresses there were actually FIVE brothers and maybe they could add the fifth one on. She seemed unimpressed.
As for Gleice / Gracey. I got to Balcony about 0030 (12:30am) Friday night. If she was the one wearing the skin tight spandex infused yellow dress, you are right she's been around forever. She was at Meia P. Earlier that day with the same dress on. I've seen her frequently at Meia P. During the day and then later at Balcony wearing the same outfit. Never talked to her so have no other info except from observations.
Eric Cartman
06-26-11, 20:22
They have a picture of "The Four Marks Brothers" on the wall inside. I mentioned to one of the waitresses there were actually FIVE brothers and maybe they could add the fifth one on. She seemed unimpressed.You were surprised by that reaction LOL? .
Actually it would be great if either of you guys can post a full-on report from Balcony one of these nights. I keep meaning to go check it out but it's such a pain in the ass I never make it. If you are pulling 8s+ from there for R$150-R$200 I want to hear about it!
As for Gleice / Gracey. I got to Balcony about 0030 (12:30am) Friday night. If she was the one wearing the skin tight spandex infused yellow dress, you are right she's been around forever.That's her! I'm cautious as I've read vets on the forum advise against the older pros.
Actually it would be great if either of you guys can post a full-on report from Balcony one of these nights. I keep meaning to go check it out but it's such a pain in the ass I never make it. If you are pulling 8s+ from there for R$150-R$200 I want to hear about it!I'll post something If I can stay up late enough for the main show. I'm not a night owl and tend to prive by day or Centro termas in the afternoon / evening. I've only been to Balcony 3 times, always before 12, picked up one loira from Sao Paulo in November 2010 with big bolt ons. Not usually my type but she was a good ride and had inch long nips! I was quoted a price of R$200/250 on Friday night (at 10. 00 pm). I am not sure if it was for 1 or 2 hours, it wasn't for TLN as I specifically asked. I didn't negotiate as my aim was just to grab a drink and check it having just flown in 2 hours earlier.
By the way, on my walk round Copa last night I saw the blue light on and the door open at Club 22. I had read (or thought I had read with my poor porto) on a brazilian forum that it was closed. But the blue light is on. Putaplaya will be pleased! I hope Valerie (loira with nice tits and GFE) is still there.
So for those of you, who are fans of Rua Uruguania 24, I've just heard it was busted just last week and is now closed. Apparently there were a couple of minors there. They [the police] carted off both girls and guys to the cop shop. This again goes to show, that screening the girls is very important, even in places where you may believe that the screening of minors has already been done for you.
Not sure for how long is will be closed, but not too worry, as most of the girls re-appeared at BA 85. I am unaware as to whether or not the increased number of GDPs at BA 85 will be beneficial to the guys, but the increased competition should be good, but watch for the girls attitudes. Hopefully for the better.
Exec Talent
06-27-11, 02:04
So for those of you, who are fans of Rua Uruguania 24, I've just heard it was busted just last week and is now closed. Apparently there were a couple of minors there. They [the police] carted off both girls and guys to the cop shop. This again goes to show, that screening the girls is very important, even in places where you may believe that the screening of minors has already been done for you.
Not sure for how long is will be closed, but not too worry, as most of the girls re-appeared at BA 85. I am unaware as to whether or not the increased number of GDPs at BA 85 will be beneficial to the guys, but the increased competition should be good, but watch for the girls attitudes. Hopefully for the better. They may be around but what is more likely is someone missed a payoff.
If you are pulling 8s+ from there for R$150-R$200 I want to hear about it!One man's 8, is another man's 6. Really can't see many 8's ever setting foot inside Balcony!
Went to Rua Buenos Aires 85, Centro a few weeks back. Damn if there wasn't some talent there. We went in with very low expectations and came out very surprised, probably 6 doable girls, thats about one per floor. Not bad for less than R$50 a bang!
Exec Talent
06-27-11, 03:29
I thought I remembered this girl from her Help days and that she was all promises and no delivery. She looked good and I wasn't sure so off we went. When we got in private all the bad memories can rushing back. Same girl. Same issues. She spent some time getting comfortable including constantly messing with the radio. She didn't want to take a shower but then finally did. Service was extremely lame including a not too gentle vise grip on the boys. This is not one of those cases where I think YMMV. This girl is just bad news and to be avoided. She is a thin, attractive mulata who wears what looks like a silver snake around her bicep. She also has a dragon tattoo that covers almost all of her back. She says she works at Balcony and Erotica.
So for those of you, who are fans of Rua Uruguania 24, I've just heard it was busted just last week and is now closed. Apparently there were a couple of minors there. They [the police] carted off both girls and guys to the cop shop. This again goes to show, that screening the girls is very important, even in places where you may believe that the screening of minors has already been done for you.
Not sure for how long is will be closed, but not too worry, as most of the girls re-appeared at BA 85. I am unaware as to whether or not the increased number of GDPs at BA 85 will be beneficial to the guys, but the increased competition should be good, but watch for the girls attitudes. Hopefully for the better. I hope it will open again. U24 had some nice women. It's just a shame that the music were so loud. Inside the cabins it was almost impossible to have a conversation.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2011/6/policia_estoura_casa_de_prostituicao_no_centro_172812.html
http://videos.r7.com/policia-encontra-menores-em-prostibulo-no-centro-do-rio/idmedia/4e0125a0fc9b0a34493b1940.html
Exec Talent
06-27-11, 18:04
Today, June 27, through July 1, Monte Carlo has a promotion where the R$80 entrance fee goes towards the cost of your drinks. You need to print out and bring in a flyer you get via email. If you don't get their emails you can find it here.
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/emails/email71.html
For the past four years, I've been working in the US, and have done very little international traveling. Last week I returned to Rio for the first time since 2007.
I checked Bubba Boy's report for updated info on Copacabana, and after seeing the prices at L'uomo and Monte Carlo, decided to try Rua Tonelero 169.
It is as Bubba Boy described, a professional, no bullshit operation. I can hold simple conversations in Portuguese, and was easily able to understand the lady at the front desk. She explained the pricing structure: R$ 60 for 30 minutes, R$ 80 for 40 minutes, and R$ 100 for 60 minutes. I chose the 40 minute option.
She called three girls out one at a time. Each greeted me Brazilian style, with a kiss on each cheek, and told me their name. All were doable, and I chose Danni, because she had the prettiest smile.
The room was simple with just enough room for a bed and a shower. However, it was clean, and air-conditioned.
After a quick shower I lay down on the bed and asked for a blow job, which she immediately began, without a condom. It soon became apparent that she had very little experience with blow jobs, as all she did was close her lips around it, and move her head up and down. It wasn't a question of being unwilling, she simply didn't know what to do, and my limited Portuguese wasn't good enough to tell her. So we switched to cowgirl (with condom) , and finished doggy style. She proved to be a lot better at these than at blow jobs.
Talking to her afterwards, I found out she is 18 years old, and has been working about three months. As I said earlier, she has a good attitude, and is willing, but lacks experience. Hopefully, she will gain that quickly.
To make a long story short, I paid R$ 80, and got the same end result as would have cost R$ 400 at one of the top tier termas. I realize that everyone doesn't care for the 'no frills' approach, but for those who do, Rua Tonelero 169 is a good option.
For the past four years, I've been working in the US, and have done very little international traveling. Last week I returned to Rio for the first time since 2007.
I checked Bubba Boy's report for updated info on Copacabana, and after seeing the prices at L'uomo and Monte Carlo, decided to try Rua Tonelero 169.
It is as Bubba Boy described, a professional, no bullshit operation. I can hold simple conversations in Portuguese, and was easily able to understand the lady at the front desk. She explained the pricing structure: R$ 60 for 30 minutes, R$ 80 for 40 minutes, and R$ 100 for 60 minutes. I chose the 40 minute option.
She called three girls out one at a time. Each greeted me Brazilian style, with a kiss on each cheek, and told me their name. All were doable, and I chose Danni, because she had the prettiest smile.
The room was simple with just enough room for a bed and a shower. However, it was clean, and air-conditioned.
After a quick shower I lay down on the bed and asked for a blow job, which she immediately began, without a condom. It soon became apparent that she had very little experience with blow jobs, as all she did was close her lips around it, and move her head up and down. It wasn't a question of being unwilling, she simply didn't know what to do, and my limited Portuguese wasn't good enough to tell her. So we switched to cowgirl (with condom) , and finished doggy style. She proved to be a lot better at these than at blow jobs.
Talking to her afterwards, I found out she is 18 years old, and has been working about three months. As I said earlier, she has a good attitude, and is willing, but lacks experience. Hopefully, she will gain that quickly.
To make a long story short, I paid R$ 80, and got the same end result as would have cost R$ 400 at one of the top tier termas. I realize that everyone doesn't care for the 'no frills' approach, but for those who do, Rua Tonelero 169 is a good option. Check out the better prives in Centro (Bel Prazer, Dudas & Zen) and Tijuca (tigresas and Mix). Same style, all under $100 for the hour and if you look hard enough can find some real gems, even the odd stunner.
Adding to my post below. The 5 biggest and best prives in Centro at the moment are as follows. All are about $R80 for 40 minutes and R$100 for the hour. Some have $50 for 30 minutes. You can visit them all in less than an hour, hence do what I do. That is check them all out, then go back and grab the girl that you find the hottest. I try to do a big search run once a month and grab names, then go back and see the ones I like. If there is some chemistry and will repeat with them and hopefully add another regular to my list.
Bel Prazer (2517-0879) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 2114. http://www.belprazer.com/
Bellas Massagem (2215-4199) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 725 http://www.bellasmassagens.com/
Duda (2517-1656) Av Rio Branco 156 Sala 3320
Lokal Zen Av treze de Maio. 33. Sala 2414. http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veragencia.php?agencia=248
Nova Massagem (2215-3553) Rua the Conceição, andº 19 http://novamassagem.com/ (same owners as Bel Prazer)
Definitely go to Tijuca one day. Only 15 mins further on the train line from Centro, that would be for a total of 30 minutes from Copacabana. Check out the following 2 places. Both same owners. BTW, Tigresas is now larger, it has maybe 9 rooms now, up from 5 last month. More rooms and more women is better for choice!
Tigresas Tijucanas (http://www.tigresastijucanas.com)
Rua General Roca 340/114 Tijuca (3872-5268)
Monday – Friday 10:00 ás 20. 00, Saturday 10:00 ás 18. 00.
30 Minutes R$ 50. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 80. 00.
NB: Entrance is actually through the main entrance of a garage, about 30 meters down you will see the entrance on the left.
Mix Massagem (http://www.mixmassagem.com)
Rua Conde de Bonfim. 352, Sala 506. Tijuca (2568-3067). Right next to metro exit.
Monday – Friday 09:00 ás 19. 30, Saturday 09:00 ás 15. 00.
30 Minutes R$ 50. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 80. 00
During the past couple of weeks I have had the pleasure (And I can only hope they have as well) of the services of Raquel (Bel Prazer) , Kele (Pro nounced like Kelly in English) , Taty from Flavias, Brenda from Flavias, Raica from 4 x 4, and Isadora from Scort Show Agency.
Raquel is a blonde who is good at what she does, and she puts everything into it. She can get really down and slutty if thats what you like :)
Kelly from Bel prazer is a very pretty light skinned mulata with a nice big ass. Unfortunately, she lacked effort, and I told her so. Then again, I was expecting a raquel performance. Maybe my bad.
Brenda from Flavias is a really nice looking brunette with long curly hair, really beautiful smile, and a big but. She really knows how to give a good BJ, and she is good at what she does. However, its not a good fit for me in any position that we try, maybe its that I didn't find her buceta to be tight at all. But she gives good service. I had already given her a spin a couple of years ago at the old Flavias massage place.
Taty at Flavias is a dark haired carioca, big bone, tall, and marvelous smile and very good service. She gets a lot of props on the gp guide. She has let herself go a bit physically from the old Flavias massage days. However, I still find her very attractive. She has many american clients that adore her, maybe some of you are reading this right now. It was a good session, but not enough for me to do a repeat.
Raica from 4 x 4. Oh boy! This light skinned mulata reminds me of the big time brazilian bodies I would see all the time in termas about 6 years ago or so. Before many big time bundas starting flocking to Europe. She is tall, has big boobs, and big bunda, not fat, really nice face, and great lips. That being said. Be warned that she is a tough cookie to break if you are looking for gf experience.
I had the pleasure of meeting her a long time ago and sitting through many drinks and long conversations before I could actually get her to show a genuine smile and just be affectionate. Most importantly, looking for her to put her guard down, and really let loose in the cabina. I was able to accomplish this a while back. So when I walked into the termas bar and saw her, I immediately knew I was most likely going to go down with her. Again, she can be a ball buster, and she comes accross as arogant not only to the clients, but to the other garotas as well. I was up for the challenge, and I conquered that mountain.
In the cabina, she likes to give a massage and give BJ. She is very, very good at BJ, and she really enjoys it. In fact, I didn't ask, and she wanted me to cim when I was done banging her. She likes to dominate in bed, however, thats not my style, and I ended up breaking her down similar to breaking in a wild horse :)
At any rate, she has a monster body and she is smart gal too. She has been to europe and done her fair share of traveling. She is more into the exotica type of sex. So if thats not your style, don't waste your time.
Isadora was a petite, hard body light skinned mulata from Scort Show. This was a hidden gem, and just as I thought I found a gem, it turns out she didn't even last a week in the agency and she was gone. That was the best 120 R for two hours that I have spent in the last couple of years in Rio. She was so liberal, everything was on the menu. Darn shame she is gone.
Will probably be checking out Buenos Aires 85 at some point this week and maybe a couple of other places. Might give hotside a shot, maybe just for the hell of it. Will be going to Solarium at some point in the next couple of weeks with a few brazilian pals. Thats all for now.
Well, I'm not long back from yet another memorable Rio de Janeiro adventure! Each time I go, I am left with memories that will last a lifetime. However, this time around not all of those memories stem from things that happened in a terma (although there were still many of those too!). I already wrote about how a tute approached me in a McDonald's and gave me her phone number! LOL! And in fact, on this last trip I made it a point to be a "normal" tourist for a change and do the things that non-mongers do when they go to Brazil. On previous trips, I always felt like there was so much ass to pursue and so little time, but this trip I stayed a little longer and planned a little better so that I could add another dimension to my overall Rio experience.
For example, I felt kind of silly that I had been to Rio so many times and had not been to Corcovado Mountain to see the statue of Christ the Redeemer. I finally made it up there. I also visited Sugarloaf, and the view from up there is just spectacular. On a clear day, you can easily see Niteroi, the downtown airport, Centro, Flamengo, Botafogo, Leme, Copacabana, and all the way over to Ipanema, Leblon, and beyond. I went to see a samba show one night which was very entertaining. We went to a churrascaria beforehand. So much meat! I thought they were going to offer me some meat with my ice cream at the end! I had planned to do a tour of Centro to learn that area better, but the tour was cancelled. I also did a cruise of Guanabara Bay which offers yet another unique perspective of Rio.
I understand that the typical tourist stuff is not the primary reason why us mongers go to Rio, but if you can work it out, take some time to do some of these things. They will only make your overall Rio vacation experience all the more rich and full. In fact, one of my funniest episodes in Rio ever occurred during the Guanabara Bay cruise. I'm on the bus and we're going to the different hotels to pick up other folks participating in the tour, and two obvious drag queens get on the bus! OK, no problem with me. I'm live and let live. So, we get to the pier and the tour guide pulls me to the side and says, "Only three people signed up for the lunch afterwards . . . it will be you and the two drag queens . . . sorry!" WTF?
I saw another boat that had the words "Pink Line" written on it. "Shouldn't they be on THAT cruise?" I thought to myself? LOL! Well, on the one hand I considered that I just might learn some things I never knew from those two. But on the other hand, I hadn't come all the way to Rio to sit in some seafood restaurant with two queens wearing panties and scarfing down sardines! I said the hell with being politically correct and went off on my own to try feijoada for the first time. I ordered a serving of the tasty Brazilian dish for one, and even that was too much to eat. The only thing I didn't like about the feijoada was the manioc flour or "farofa" that comes with it. That stuff tastes like saw dust man. Got to be an acquired taste. But other than that, it was all good! The best time to get feijoada is on Saturdays. If you want some, go with a buddy and split an order for one person. I assure you that it will be enough. Which reminds me of another thing about Rio. I always forget how huge the portions are! It's a little on the expensive side eating out in Copa, but there are a lot of good restaurants, and you will get your money's worth. I typically have enough leftovers for a second full meal. When you consider that, then the price isn't so bad after all.
Now let's talk about the main event . . . the girls! I had not been to Rio since Help closed, so I was eager to check out the night scene in Copa. Bottom line is that it's pretty much like the old scene, only in a much, much smaller and scaled down version, which I LIKED! The old Help scene was such a suffocating, smoke-filled ZOO full of fuglies, and I just couldn't stand it. For me, the new scene is much more manageable, with (for lack of better comparisons) Dolce Vita being the "new" Help (I never went in) and Balcony being the "new" Terraco Atlántico. Whenever I decided to drop by, I would usually arrive around 8 p.m., and already there would be girls out on the stroll. For sure there were still plenty of fuglies, but I always saw a handful of cute girls too each time. On my first night in town, I was looking for a table over at Balcony and overheard a tute tell a monger, "Don't drink too much because I want to fuck really good tonight!" I laughed out loud as I passed by LOL!
I mostly went to Balcony to watch, but one night I did pull a tute to my table just to get some info out of her (and I offered her some pizza too LOL!). I wanted to get some idea of what kind of prices the girls were asking for. She quoted R$200 for ST and R$250 for all night. She wasn't the most attractive, so I have to believe that the prettier girls probably start out asking for more (but can be bargained down). I made a few eye contacts with a couple of pretty ones, but that's as far as it went because I really wasn't too interested in going with a Balcony girl. As you will see, I spent my money elsewhere. After finishing the pizza, I decided to walk over to Barbarella's to check that place out after having not been there for some time. By the way, at Balcony in the early evenings, they always seemed to have different gringos (I believe they were all gringos) strumming guitars, blowing harmonicas, and singing to popular American standards. It added a different touch that I appreciated. Oh, and the Balcony tute asked me for money for a taxi to Niteroi. I told her no and left for Barbarella's. Not gettin' any chump change from me.
Speaking of Barbarella's, I went a couple of times this last trip, and some things have changed! When I first started going to Rio, the tutes at Barbarella's would give you this line, "It's R$600, but for you R$500." Hahahaha! I would just laugh and NEVER pay that. Now when you go, the girls will tell you R$300 to R$400. How long they will stay and what they will do will depends directly upon what you negotiate with the girl. From all of my trips to Rio, I have taken about six girls from Barbarella's, and I have always paid from R$300 to R$400. Half of those girls have stayed all night, including one for R$300. I don't recall exactly how long the others stayed, but it wasn't all night, which is fine with me because I don't always desire all night. Mostly I want to fuck, and then get a good night's rest afterwards, which means no tute in my room! Now get this. I had one Barbarella's chick tell me it was R$700, and that she always gets at least R$600! LOL! Who did she think she was talking to? I told her that for a fraction of that price, I could go somewhere else and get BBBJ, anal, CIM . . . the WORKS! She got mad and got up and left . . . fuck her! On second thought DON'T. Hahaha! Wish I could remember her skeezer name.
Another thing about Barbarella's that was different was that I didn't see any of those shark taxis that charge double sitting out front. Maybe it was just early. But in fact, the first girl I took back to my room had her own car parked around the corner, so we drove the few minutes to my Copa hotel. That was different. With the other girl, we just got a taxi off the street, which is typically what I will do. There are a few things at Barbarella's that have not changed. There's still the bar fine of R$120 (you get two drinks with that). Also, the door clowns still have their hands out asking for tips when they haven't done jack for you. And I still tell them no! LOL! Also, watch out for this trick. When they brought me my bill to pay, they had added a 10% tip for the wait staff and tried to tell me I was obligated to pay it! First time that had happened to me at Barbarella's, and it really pissed me off! Turns out the service actually wasn't so bad, and I had planned to tip the wait staff, but when they pulled that bullshit I refused. They removed the 10% charge from my bill. Don't let those guys get over on you or take advantage of you. You're the boss, and it's your money!
The place where I spent most of my riches was in the termas. The termas are my main thing in Rio because I know that's where I can get what I like the most, and that would be the porn star experience! I'm not going to go over addresses, detailed pricing info for each location, etc. because all of that information is readily available elsewhere. I'll just take some time now to share some overall impressions and lessons learned (or reinforced) from my last trip. To start, I'll say that one of the best sessions I have ever had in my life anywhere on any continent with any girl was had at L'uomo. And THE BEST BUTT FUCK I have EVER dropped on a girl IN MY ENTIRE LIFE occurred at L'uomo during this past trip.
The reinforcing lesson from this for me is this. L'uomo was good during my very first visit to Rio, but had sucked ever since. And yet, I always made it a point to stop by at least once every trip because you just never know what new booty will be on duty WHERE in town to rock your world! The place that sucked the last several trips just may be THE place next time. In Rio there are so, so many choices that if you don't live there or don't have the opportunity to travel there several times a year, then you have to have a game plan with a rotation of places to try out on each trip where you know you have at least a chance of finding the kind of action you like.
For example, I haven't had any luck at Cancun for some time now and didn't session there last trip, but it's a terma, I like the termas, and it's a Tier 1 terma at that, so I keep it in my rotation for now (I like to have at least 10 different places to visit on any particular trip and added Café 400 in Barra de Tijuca to make up for the loss of other places like Termas Aeroporto and Rio Antigo . . . I need to consider more casas and prives for next time). Solarium is the other place where I didn't session last time, even though there is a girl there going by Eliza who I find very, very attractive, and who I have sessioned with on two prior occasions. The first time was when she was over at Monte Carlo years ago. It was only a so-so session, but I thought maybe it was me because I wasn't in the best of moods. Tried her again after she moved to Solarium, and again I didn't have the best experience. In fact, it's the only time EVER in Rio where I felt like a tute was pressuring me to finish. She kept saying, "Cum! Cum! You cum now!"
Maybe it was a bit of cultural miscommunication, but I doubt it. And for that reason, I was determined to let my big head control the little head and not go with her again. She ignored me at first, but then came over "soliciting" for a session and playin' with my dick and shit under my robe. I told her that I felt like she had hurried me the last time. She replied that she had not and always provides a complete session. Then she stood up and wagged her big butt around in my face, but I was able to resist because I know she doesn't do anal. Hahaha! Then she sits back down and I'm looking into that pretty face of hers and she's telling me I can "gozar" all over her mouth (making motions with her fingers all over her mouth for where the spooge will go)! "DON'T do it Cane! DON'T do it! Let the big head control the little one!" Well, the big head won! Hehehe! I finished my drink and got the hell out of there with my money still intact. Maybe I'll give you another go next time Eliza. Third time lucky? We shall see. Hehehe!
But, back to referring to the tier ratings for the termas, I went to my first Tier 2 terma this visit (Termas 502), and I had one of my most memorable sexual experiences ever in Rio. I'll tell the full story later in a picture post, but I'll just say for now that the girl was hot and as good a performer as the best in any Tier 1 terma I have ever been to. And the price was right too. It was only R$20 to get in, and you get three beers with that. The hour session was like R$240 if I recall correctly (I got the suite), we used all of the time, and it was a PSE all the way. Also, if you're coming from Copa like I was, you have to factor in the taxi fare. A side benefit is that once you're down there, you can easily walk to 4X4 and Termas 65 too. The lesson here is that, of course, you don't always have to go to a Tier 1 terma and pay higher prices to receive outstanding service. In fact, you don't have to go to a terma at all. But, still there are trade-offs. There are aspects of the Tier 1 terma that I like that no casa or prive will ever be able to match. However, the added benefits don't justify the kind of prices being charged by Centaurus. They want R$120 from you just to let you in, and that does not include any drinks! An hour session is R$550! Throw in taxi fares and drinks, and you've spent a fortune for an hour of fun at Centaurus. Definitely NOT worth it. That said, I did go to Centaurus twice looking for one of my favorites of all time! LOL! Didn't see her, and given those prices it's just as well! I went back to the hotel room with a lot more money in my wallet!
Now, I'm going to follow this post up with a series of picture post reports that will be recounts of my actual sessions with the tutes. As I said in an earlier post, I'm going to place those picture reports in the Anal Connoisseurs section because the thing I love the most is to fuck my tutes in the ass, and for me the anal action is what absolutely sets Rio apart from any other mongering destination in the entire world that I go to. In Rio the anus is on the menu, it's plentiful, and nobody does it better than a Brasiliera GDP does it! Summing it all up, I did 14 sessions this last trip, or one a day, with 71% of those sessions involving some form of "butt sex". So, I was right around my Rio "lifetime anal average" of 70%. Hahaha! The truth is that I only sessioned half as much as I had planned. I wanted two tutes a day, but after you've been around as many tutes as I have, you become "hardened" and your standards get higher and higher. Or, at least they should when you can fuck virtually anybody in the house. It's like being on a drug and needing a higher dose of that drug to get high, or needing an even harder drug to get your high. In any event, by being picky you have a better chance of having good sessions by not settling on something less than what you want (and what you want can and does change). And, you also arrive back in your native land with more money in your pockets! Anyway, look for my follow up reports starting tomorrow in Anal Connoisseurs.
CaptainNemo
06-28-11, 01:30
It probably has the best looking girls in Rio now.
I arrived the place at 4:30PM. I was the only customers. By 6PM, there were only 4 guys. Girls are aggressive. I think that business is slow for girls so they are much more aggressive to approach guys.
Any body ever used Josi Producoes Eventos?
Eric Cartman
06-28-11, 02:26
It probably has the best looking girls in Rio now.
I arrived the place at 4:30PM. I was the only customers. By 6PM, there were only 4 guys. Girls are aggressive. I think that business is slow for girls so they are much more aggressive to approach guys. The last 3 times I have been there. Most recently in May. It was a complete disaster with few and unattractive chicks. The problem may be that I was going on weekends, only Sat / Sun. Were you there on a weekday?
I just learned that my recent favorite at MC may have moved to Solarium. Kind of a PITA as it's a taxi ride and back but maybe I need to go see.
MC on Monday night was actually pretty busy. The manager and girls said it was pent-up demand after the holiday weekend. Sadly there were no real stand-outs in the rotation. A lot of the same girls who have been there for a while, a few returning faces, but nothing to justify Zona Sul prices this outing. And trust me the Cartman is not a cheap bastard when he sees respectable talent. I think last week I spent R$1001 there one day, having a double session for an hour with my fav and her friend, and then hauling my fav back to the cabine for 40 mins later, with them having a bunch of drinks in between.
Torgoch and others, I haven't been to centaurus since the price went above 300 reals. Now that its 550 reals, do you think it will be easier to pay the 120 reals entrance and try and get numbers for after work. It was pretty hard to do back then because the dollar was strong and they had plenty customers. They have to have alot less business now at 550r. Did you get a vibe that many girls will see you after work for 200 to 250 reals. I imagine desperation is setting in.
Torgoch and others, I haven't been to centaurus since the price went above 300 reals. Now that its 550 reals, do you think it will be easier to pay the 120 reals entrance and try and get numbers for after work. It was pretty hard to do back then because the dollar was strong and they had plenty customers. They have to have alot less business now at 550r. Did you get a vibe that many girls will see you after work for 200 to 250 reals. I imagine desperation is setting in.Each time I went to Centaurus, I paid the R$120 entrance fee to get in and nothing else. No questions asked. In fact, the second time I went, I didn't even have to request to pay just the entrance fee. They just said R$120, and that was it. I didn't ask any Centaurus girls for their numbers, but it just so happens that I got more numbers, e-mail addresses, and Facebook info this last trip from girls working in other places than I have on any previous trip, and that was usually without even having to ask.
I would say that in general, girls seemed to be eager to volunteer to give out their phone numbers and/or contact information in order to meet before or after work, or even on days off. Hoes be handin' out phone numbers in Mickey D's and shit! I wish I had stayed in contact with Talita over at Centaurus when I had the opportunity to. She was taking some time off from the club, and since I didn't have her contact info (she had offered me her e-mail address two trips ago), I wasn't able to see her during my last trip to Rio.
That was all on me. A lesson learned. But, I was in a situation where I felt I couldn't keep in contact with her. That's changed, and now I don't have her contact info to reach her! Get that contact info for the ones you definitely would like to see again. Even if they stop working, if your relationship with them was good, many of the girls will still be glad to hear from you and will let you have some, even if they have left the stroll. Many will still be needing to earn some money, just like the rest of us.
Each time I went to Centaurus, I paid the R$120 entrance fee to get in and nothing else. No questions asked. In fact, the second time I went, I didn't even have to request to pay just the entrance fee. They just said R$120, and that was it. I didn't ask any Centaurus girls for their numbers, but it just so happens that I got more numbers, e-mail addresses, and Facebook info this last trip from girls working in other places than I have on any previous trip, and that was usually without even having to ask.
I would say that in general, girls seemed to be eager to volunteer to give out their phone numbers and / or contact information in order to meet before or after work, or even on days off. Hoes be handin' out phone numbers in Mickey D's and shit! I wish I had stayed in contact with Talita over at Centaurus when I had the opportunity to. She was taking some time off from the club, and since I didn't have her contact info (she had offered me her e-mail address two trips ago) , I wasn't able to see her during my last trip to Rio.
That was all on me. A lesson learned. But, I was in a situation where I felt I couldn't keep in contact with her. That's changed, and now I don't have her contact info to reach her! Get that contact info for the ones you definitely would like to see again. Even if they stop working, if your relationship with them was good, many of the girls will still be glad to hear from you and will let you have some, even if they have left the stroll. Many will still be needing to earn some money, just like the rest of us.Cane,
I agree there are some girls I have kept in touch with going on almost 12 years some have retired from the Termas or got married or had kids BUT all I have to do is shot them a DM on fackbook and they come by my hotel, a few have even came to the states after having some SIMP pay their way and they called me looking to hook up when they got here LOL.
Kid Cisco
I was browsing through some local brazilian forums and read that. 4 X 4 charges a 10 real entry for people entering the establishment late in the night. If so what hours do they charge the discounted entry fee and is it 10 reals as I just read this? It would solve the late night decision making really fast for people like me on the fence to go or not to go. Well, at least for me. For 10 reals a latenight run to (Compared to the normal $50 reals) 4 X 4 would be an outstanding alternative. The person claiming the 10 real entry fee entered the Terma past 10:00pm. Can someone on the ground in Rio please verify if this is true or not and what time does the discount entry fee takes effect if it is available. Thank you in advance.
I was browsing through some local brazilian forums and read that. 4 X 4 charges a 10 real entry for people entering the establishment late in the night. If so what hours do they charge the discounted entry fee and is it 10 reals as I just read this? It would solve the late night decision making really fast for people like me on the fence to go or not to go. Well, at least for me. For 10 reals a latenight run to (Compared to the normal $50 reals) 4 X 4 would be an outstanding alternative. The person claiming the 10 real entry fee entered the Terma past 10:00pm. Can someone on the ground in Rio please verify if this is true or not and what time does the discount entry fee takes effect if it is available. Thank you in advance.I have never heard of this and would think it unlikely.
Galenmarek
06-28-11, 21:27
Torgoch and others, I haven't been to centaurus since the price went above 300 reals. Now that its 550 reals, do you think it will be easier to pay the 120 reals entrance and try and get numbers for after work. It was pretty hard to do back then because the dollar was strong and they had plenty customers. They have to have alot less business now at 550r. Did you get a vibe that many girls will see you after work for 200 to 250 reals. I imagine desperation is setting in.At 350 bucks, one can stay in the US and get laid for cheaper than that. The exchange rate is so poor now that it might not be worth going any more, its at 1. 57. Thing have changed for the worse, don't know if the dollar will ever be worth the same again.
Nothing in the US can compare to Brazil. I agree. 350 bucks at C is too much. Thats why I would get numbers. If I can pay 120 reals, and get a girl for after work at 220 reals, thats 340 reals. A little over 200 bucks. That's if you count the 120 as a cost. Your are having fun and grabbing ass for 120. When you guys go to Centaurus, do they still have americans?
Eric Cartman
06-29-11, 05:05
Earlier this week, Captain Nemo wrote the following about Solarium.
It probably has the best looking girls in Rio now.
I arrived the place at 4:30PM. I was the only customers. By 6PM, there were only 4 guys. Girls are aggressive. I think that business is slow for girls so they are much more aggressive to approach guys. OK, I'm not out to pick a fight. Let me just say that. The Cartman is a peaceloving guy. But tonight I went to Solarium, largely because the comment above made me think that maybe, just maybe, things had changed at Solarium since my last 3 trips (which admittedly had been on weekends). And, to be fair, I went in part because my recent fav from Monte Carlo was rumored to be working there. So that's a double negative to report: she's not working there. And Solarium sucks. I don't know what alternate dimension Captain Nemo's Solarium exists in. And honestly more power to him for finding it. But tonight, Tuesday night, at 9pm it sucked.
The boate was full of Brazilian dudes grinding up against the girls. And the girls were a motley collection of big-bunda'd and fake-boobied 6s and worse. I seriously see hotter girls at 502 all the time. Or 4x4. And without a doubt at 65. And until recently (this week) at MC, in fact I would still say MC has hotter girls. I was standing there for 20 minutes, hoping and praying that someone doable would show up. Not to be. And this has been the consistent fact of my last 4 trips now to Solarium. Trust me, when the Cartman goes to a T, it is with intent. I had 1. 5 viagras in me and I was ready to let rip since my last sexo was probably Weds last week. Instead I got a very expensive (R$80) shower. I am done with this place for at least 6 months. Bubba, if I suggest going back before 2012, please smack me.
So anyway, my buddy and I head out. And he is insistent on going to Centaurus. Claims he knows girls there and that it is fantastic. My gal pal at L'Uomo hasn't texted me back to say she's working, and it's 10pm so choices are getting limited. On principal I have avoided Centaurus since moving to Rio in October 2010. But at this point, I'm like, what the hell let's have a look (eu vou dar uma olhada). There were a handful of good things. For one, perhaps because we spoke in Porto and brooked no retorts, we only paid the entrada (R$120. Yes are you shitting me, it's R$120). The other good thing is I got to use the phrase "Fatty McFatties" repeatedly but we'll get to that.
I brushed off the chicks that glom on to you right away at the lockers. Got changed and headed up to the boate. Note. On my way out later, the fucking attendant asked me for a tip. I said (in porto)"For what? What have you done that merits a tip?" She slunk away. FUCK HER. I spent 12hours (8:30am. 8:30pm) today at my office working and nobody gave me a fucking tip.
The boate was somewhat full and, man, were the chicks heinous. I counted like 4 fatty mcfatties, and a bunch of strung-out crack working girl looking types (think, blonde, old, drawn). Where are the 18. 22 yearolds? This was crazy like some alternate universe Terma where bad garotas go to die. It was really bad. We kept looking around and counting the heinosities. Even my buddy couldn't defend it and admitted that 65 is sporting a way stronger lineup. I was stunned. It's like going to Porcao for Picanha Nobre and getting ground chuck. I mean, at Centaurus prices you expect top fucking talent. And instead it was again maybe 6s and just simply horrible chicks that I would only consider banging at private prices (R$80).
Hung out there until about 11. 30 and it got marginally better when 1-2 younger girls came in. What made it even more funny was my buddy saying "Hey that's my pal's ex-girlfriend." and I'm like, oh really. And as I go for a closer look, I recognize her from the giant "Jonathan Love Forever" tattoo on her back. My friend Churroman banged her and her sister back in 2009 when she was working at MC and came over to our apartment. Then this past January we both ran into her at the Havianas store on Xavier the Silveira in Copa. I reminded her of this and, well, she didn't seem amused (quite annoyed actually). But boy was I amused!
Anyway at this point I'm like, fuck, I have 1. 5 V's in me and I just want to get my nut off. I was really torn between flat-out leaving and just finding someone, anyone, doable so I could amortize my now R$200 in entradas between Solarium and Centaurus. So I spot a younger looking girl who has good energy and is dancing around. Chat to her a bit and she seems ok. 26. No kids. Lives in Zona Norte. Used to have a boyfriend but doesn't now. I'm like, good enough let's go. Of course being Centaurus, I have to go downstairs and pay first. R$330 (!) for 40 mins. So that means my total all-in is going to be R$450 plus drinks (R$3 agua com gas). Up to the room, she tells me to wait "2 minutes" and actually comes back like 10 mins later. Smoking a cigarette. I'm like, um, this room is the size of a closet so please don't smoke. She agrees. Her name by the way is Malu or something but says her real name is EmmaNoelle. Brunette, shoulder length hair, tattoo on her right back shoulder, slim, carioca.
Start with some light kissing and she simply will not DFK. I say "You don't like kissing?" and she says she does but I get nothing. Then she sits on the bed, grabs a condom, and tries to blow me with a condom. I'm like WTF? I say to her "You are going to be the first girl in Rio to blow me with a condom, and that's not a good position for you or me." She laughs and keeps trying. I flat out tell her "Nao da! Nao da!" [this board changes d-a to "the" wtf?] and she finally relents and gives me a middling BBBJ. Then it's quickly back to camisina for some pounding. I can tell she wants me to come quick so I at least string it out (thank you V) and make her work for it over 20 mins or so. In the middle she gets up to turn down the lights. I'm like, listen, I understand why you don't want to look at me, but I want to look at you and I'm paying. So she puts them back on.
Overall, had to be some of the most uninspired, boring sex I've had. Quite possibly the 2nd worst since I moved here (1st prize going to Balcony chick who decided, midway, that she wanted the money and then I had to kick her out).
On my way downstairs, some other chick corners me and asks me how I'm doing. I tell her, well, I just had really bad sex and won't come back. She tells me I should complain to the manager at the front desk. What's the point? I blow off the tip-seeking attendant, and settle my bill. Counter guy says R$3 for the water. I happen to have R$3 and the rest are R$50 notes. I give him the R$3 and ask if he can break a R$50 for me for change. He says no. I say, you're kidding right? He says no. I say, what would have happened if I didn't have R$3. You would give me change. He agrees. So I ask for change for the R$50. He says, no all I have is this wad of R$10 notes and they need to last all night. FUCKER.
Catch a cab home and thankfully the driver can make change. I'm texting my buddy on the way, reporting on the bad times.
Bottom line. TLDR version:
1) Solarium sucks. Fatties and 6s. Expensive. Far (R$15. $20 cab each way). Completely not worth it. Avoid.
2) Centaurus sucks. Crazy prices for Rio. Bad service. Heinous chicks. Completely not worth it. Avoid.
Now this is just my opinion. Your results may vary. Especially if you are some hard-up schmohawk sex tourist (American, in particularly) escaping from pussy prison and in Rio for a short time. Or if, frankly, you have very different tastes than me. But after a solid 8+ months of living here, and hitting at least 1-2-3 T's on a weekly basis, getting girls to spend weekends and nights with me at my apartment, etc, I have to say that there are much better options out there.
Fucking slap me around if I go back to either before 2012, if at that.
-Cartman
Sounds like centaurus still has all those rude fucks working there. Does that ***** that worked the front desk years ago still work there. She always asked for a tip when you paid your bill and was rude as fuck. I can't believe the talent has gone down so much there.
Bottom line. TLDR version:
1) Solarium sucks.
2) Centaurus sucks.
-CartmanSolarium was one of two termas I didn't session at during my last trip. I'm attracted to Eliza over there, but I've had a couple of weak experiences with her and wasn't going to get rooked for a third. I didn't see anybody else who appealed to me. In my opinion, Solarium has been weak for a long time now it seems. Don't know how anybody can say they have the strongest line-up. Not even close! Although, I think to say that even 502 is better is really stretching it! And as far as Centaurus goes, I had my worst experience there last trip while paying the most money for it! The only reason I would ever go to Centaurus now would be to hook up with proven talent, and preferably outside the terma!
Earlier this week, Captain Nemo wrote the following about Solarium.
OK, I'm not out to pick a fight. Let me just say that. The Cartman is a peaceloving guy. But tonight I went to Solarium, largely because the comment above made me think that maybe, just maybe, things had changed at Solarium since my last 3 trips (which admittedly had been on weekends). And, to be fair, I went in part because my recent fav from Monte Carlo was rumored to be working there. So that's a double negative to report: she's not working there. And Solarium sucks. I don't know what alternate dimension Captain Nemo's Solarium exists in. And honestly more power to him for finding it. But tonight, Tuesday night, at 9pm it sucked.
The boate was full of Brazilian dudes grinding up against the girls. And the girls were a motley collection of big-bunda'd and fake-boobied 6s and worse. I seriously see hotter girls at 502 all the time. Or 4x4. And without a doubt at 65. And until recently (this week) at MC, in fact I would still say MC has hotter girls. I was standing there for 20 minutes, hoping and praying that someone doable would show up. Not to be. And this has been the consistent fact of my last 4 trips now to Solarium. Trust me, when the Cartman goes to a T, it is with intent. I had 1. 5 viagras in me and I was ready to let rip since my last sexo was probably Weds last week. Instead I got a very expensive (R$80) shower. I am done with this place for at least 6 months. Bubba, if I suggest going back before 2012, please smack me.
So anyway, my buddy and I head out. And he is insistent on going to Centaurus. Claims he knows girls there and that it is fantastic. My gal pal at L'Uomo hasn't texted me back to say she's working, and it's 10pm so choices are getting limited. On principal I have avoided Centaurus since moving to Rio in October 2010. But at this point, I'm like, what the hell let's have a look (eu vou dar uma olhada). There were a handful of good things. For one, perhaps because we spoke in Porto and brooked no retorts, we only paid the entrada (R$120. Yes are you shitting me, it's R$120). The other good thing is I got to use the phrase "Fatty McFatties" repeatedly but we'll get to that.
I brushed off the chicks that glom on to you right away at the lockers. Got changed and headed up to the boate. Note. On my way out later, the fucking attendant asked me for a tip. I said (in porto)"For what? What have you done that merits a tip?" She slunk away. FUCK HER. I spent 12hours (8:30am. 8:30pm) today at my office working and nobody gave me a fucking tip.
The boate was somewhat full and, man, were the chicks heinous. I counted like 4 fatty mcfatties, and a bunch of strung-out crack working girl looking types (think, blonde, old, drawn). Where are the 18. 22 yearolds? This was crazy like some alternate universe Terma where bad garotas go to die. It was really bad. We kept looking around and counting the heinosities. Even my buddy couldn't defend it and admitted that 65 is sporting a way stronger lineup. I was stunned. It's like going to Porcao for Picanha Nobre and getting ground chuck. I mean, at Centaurus prices you expect top fucking talent. And instead it was again maybe 6s and just simply horrible chicks that I would only consider banging at private prices (R$80).
Hung out there until about 11. 30 and it got marginally better when 1-2 younger girls came in. What made it even more funny was my buddy saying "Hey that's my pal's ex-girlfriend." and I'm like, oh really. And as I go for a closer look, I recognize her from the giant "Jonathan Love Forever" tattoo on her back. My friend Churroman banged her and her sister back in 2009 when she was working at MC and came over to our apartment. Then this past January we both ran into her at the Havianas store on Xavier the Silveira in Copa. I reminded her of this and, well, she didn't seem amused (quite annoyed actually). But boy was I amused!
Anyway at this point I'm like, fuck, I have 1. 5 V's in me and I just want to get my nut off. I was really torn between flat-out leaving and just finding someone, anyone, doable so I could amortize my now R$200 in entradas between Solarium and Centaurus. So I spot a younger looking girl who has good energy and is dancing around. Chat to her a bit and she seems ok. 26. No kids. Lives in Zona Norte. Used to have a boyfriend but doesn't now. I'm like, good enough let's go. Of course being Centaurus, I have to go downstairs and pay first. R$330 (!) for 40 mins. So that means my total all-in is going to be R$450 plus drinks (R$3 agua com gas). Up to the room, she tells me to wait "2 minutes" and actually comes back like 10 mins later. Smoking a cigarette. I'm like, um, this room is the size of a closet so please don't smoke. She agrees. Her name by the way is Malu or something but says her real name is EmmaNoelle. Brunette, shoulder length hair, tattoo on her right back shoulder, slim, carioca.
Start with some light kissing and she simply will not DFK. I say "You don't like kissing?" and she says she does but I get nothing. Then she sits on the bed, grabs a condom, and tries to blow me with a condom. I'm like WTF? I say to her "You are going to be the first girl in Rio to blow me with a condom, and that's not a good position for you or me." She laughs and keeps trying. I flat out tell her "Nao the! Nao the!" [this board changes the-a to "the" WTF? ] and she finally relents and gives me a middling BBBJ. Then it's quickly back to camisina for some pounding. I can tell she wants me to come quick so I at least string it out (thank you V) and make her work for it over 20 mins or so. In the middle she gets up to turn down the lights. I'm like, listen, I understand why you don't want to look at me, but I want to look at you and I'm paying. So she puts them back on.
Overall, had to be some of the most uninspired, boring sex I've had. Quite possibly the 2nd worst since I moved here (1st prize going to Balcony chick who decided, midway, that she wanted the money and then I had to kick her out).
On my way downstairs, some other chick corners me and asks me how I'm doing. I tell her, well, I just had really bad sex and won't come back. She tells me I should complain to the manager at the front desk. What's the point? I blow off the tip-seeking attendant, and settle my bill. Counter guy says R$3 for the water. I happen to have R$3 and the rest are R$50 notes. I give him the R$3 and ask if he can break a R$50 for me for change. He says no. I say, you're kidding right? He says no. I say, what would have happened if I didn't have R$3. You would give me change. He agrees. So I ask for change for the R$50. He says, no all I have is this wad of R$10 notes and they need to last all night. FUCKER.
Catch a cab home and thankfully the driver can make change. I'm texting my buddy on the way, reporting on the bad times.
Bottom line. TLDR version:
1) Solarium sucks. Fatties and 6s. Expensive. Far (R$15. $20 cab each way). Completely not worth it. Avoid.
2) Centaurus sucks. Crazy prices for Rio. Bad service. Heinous chicks. Completely not worth it. Avoid.
Now this is just my opinion. Your results may vary. Especially if you are some hard-up schmohawk sex tourist (American, in particularly) escaping from pussy prison and in Rio for a short time. Or if, frankly, you have very different tastes than me. But after a solid 8+ months of living here, and hitting at least 1-2-3 T's on a weekly basis, getting girls to spend weekends and nights with me at my apartment, etc, I have to say that there are much better options out there.
Fucking slap me around if I go back to either before 2012, if at that.
-CartmanI am not even going to touch the subject of Centaurus. I haven't step foot in that place in years.
As for Solarium, I am somewhat surprised, but I beleive it is possible for it to be going through a dry spell due to the low season situation.
Thanks for saving me the money and the time.
Waiting. Well, we are waiting to the pics.
And, you also arrive back in your native land with more money in your pockets! Anyway, look for my follow up reports starting tomorrow in Anal Connoisseurs.
If we all avoid it, something should change. Either it closes, it gets bought out or they should start treating customers better than they have. The fact now that they have heinous chicks working there puts this place on my never, never, never go list. I always have an open mind about places, but for BR450 for 40 minutes or BR550 for an hour, there are way better options out there. I rank the Termas / Casas and I will contrast the value of services agaist Centaurus and their ridiculous pricing structure:
1. Quatro por Quatro (4 X 4) : 80 girls of all shapes and sizes; you can't find what you are looking for there, you just need to get on the plane and leave Rio! For BR220 before 5pm (They wave the BR50 entrance if you take someone before 5 o'clock) , you can do a dupla (BR440) if you choose and have change left vs Centaurus. The only catch is, you may miss on some options because the last wave of girls gets there at 5:00pm. I usually tell those on the last shift to get there a little before 5:00pm the next day and have my way with them. Avoiding the entrance fee.
2. Termas 65: 25 to 40 girls, every shape and size and really nice facilities. A bit pricier than most in Centro, but they do have some nice round butts in there! To session it is now BR350 for the hour plus BR80 entry fee. They sometimes allow you to consume part or all of the entrance fee depending on the day of the week. So they stack up evenly with Centaurus just that you get an hour vs 40 minutes in the cabine with the provider.
3. Termas 502: About 30 to 40+ girls. For the price it can't be beat. That is BR160 for an hour plus BR20 (They let you have 3 drinks with entry fee?) entry fee; that's BR180 for an hour of fun. Compared to Centaurus that's BR340 for a dupla if you choose to double the fun and have plenty of change left.
4. Any casa in Centro, or Tijuca, or anywhere else. I have been to some casas that let you have duplas for as little as BR140/160 for an hour. So compared to Centaurus, you could have 3 duplas in any casa and have plenty left over. If you do one girl at a time (BR70 to 110 per hour) , you could have 5 to 8 girls. 5 to 8 hours of fun, if you do them one at a time. Not mentioning the Villa Mimosa (About BR35 per session) where you could have 15 girls and have some change or the real a minute places where you money can go even further.
IMHO, it is a matter of share numbers. I like buying ass in bulk, like at Costco or Sams Club, period. The more ass you get the more fun you will have. Best part is when they get a liking to you and invite themselves to your hotel during weekends or during their time off, it gets fun and tricky. Due to the lengths of my visits I've turned more of these girls away than I can count but I do keep their phone numbers and e-mail addresses for future reference. I'm just old, it takes me a while to recharge so I need the full hour to session at least 2 times with the girls while there, but at the hotel I need the rest so I can continue to sample the selections available in bunda land.
One session in Centaurus is a complete waste of time and money even if they have all 10's there. I've met lots of former providers from there at other Termas, casas and other spots. There just isn't enough work there for the girls to make a go at it so they keep moving to the other Termas and in some cases to casas to pay their bills.
I might check out Centaurus for nostalgia purposes next trip. It will be 120r well spent just to see what a dive this place has turned into.
Exec Talent
06-29-11, 16:10
Facilities are crap (except for the size of the rooms), receptionists are jerks, girls are aggressive and annoying, it is way overpriced but ... They don't care. The reason is simple. They cater to high-end Brazilians, not gringos. In the US we have country clubs where business executives make deals. Try to find a country club in Rio. Oh, you have. It is called a termas. It is where business gets done. If you speak Portuguese the termas is the place to meet and socialize with the business and political elite. In the US who picks up those country club dues? If you are putting together a multi-million Reais deal who cares about R$450 for 40 minutes. In the US those dues maintain the facilities and pay staff but they also do one other thing. Keep out the riffraff (as in gringos). I rarely see business executives from São Paulo in L'uomo or Monte Carlo but I see groups of them all the time in Centaurus. If you want to do business in Rio (and Brazil) you go to Centaurus. Fore!!!
You may want to consider Columbia.SkinnyBop and Amerioca; Thank you very much for your contributions regarding my issue. Yes, I will definitely consider Columbia. As a matter of fact, right now my plan is to go there in December. So I will head over to the Columbia-thread to look out for information.
One of my favorite handles that I see from time to time is "Ho Whisperer". . . a funny handle . . . and one that JACKSON approved of and registered on HIS site. There are many, many, many others like that. I always remember that one because I think it's creative, funny, and I like it. Apparently Jackson has no issues with it, or many others in the same vein either.
yo,
i gave that up a long time ago, but i really want to get back to rio.
[quote=eeyore]. i went down on her first, and she writhed and moaned with great loud pleasure. after she was good and wet, i entered her, pulling her legs on my shoulders. this stretched her too much, and wet as she was, she still was unable to take all i had to give. i let her legs back down and slowly entered her again. i slowly worked my way in and she backed into me as her wet tight pussy wrapped around my throbbing member.
casting my eyes about, i spotted a statuesque blonde beauty with a distinct air of sophistication. her name sounded something like ingeja. (in-gay-ha).
a tall exotic dark-haired beauty caught my eye as she talked with another garota. pietra was her name. she came from manaus and was a hot amazonian. she slowly undressed me, teasing me with light strokes. i pushed her back on the bed, then went down on her, lifting her long legs back over her head. the tension built as we picked up speed. i slowly worked my way into her tight pussy and teased her in return. when she couldn't stand it anymore, she began pulling my hips into her. after rolling on the narrow bed, we rolled off, i spun her around and entered from behind. faster and harder she wanted and faster and harder i went until the dam burst open. i slowly ground my hips into her round, firm ass. with that, she went into a long slow shivering and shuddering orgasm and fell forward. i pushed down on her and came while she was still convulsing. quote]dude, you have go to stop reading penthouse forum letters!
The Cane. I have merely pointed out the rules to you, quite succintly, without a personal attack. A normal response would be to just acknowledge that you were unaware that the rules were such and move on. No need to go into an incoherent rant (Adolph and referring to Nazis?) and personal attack when no attack was aimed at you. If you carry on attacking everybody that merely makes a comment about one of your posts you will either stop posting or be banned.
Get over yourself. You're bitter because you LOST and you can't let it go. You can't stand the fact that I'm here. But I'll tell you what partner. You better get used to it because this is where I am, and this is where I'm staying. And I'm doing what other guys here are doing, and that's reading, writing, and reporting. And I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it WELL! I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it WELL.
I have news for you. These places aren't the private clubs of you and your crew.I'm afraid to say I'm one of the members of Bubba's crew. Thanks for your posts BB, I still learn of your test-drive and I live in Rio!
The Cane. I have merely pointed out the rules to you, quite succintly, without a personal attack. A normal response would be to just acknowledge that you were unaware that the rules were such and move on. No need to go into an incoherent rant (Adolph and referring to Nazis?) and personal attack when no attack was aimed at you. If you carry on attacking everybody that merely makes a comment about one of your posts you will either stop posting or be banned.Sorry, I didn't realize that you were only here to "help" (said with much sarcasm!).
Exec Talent
06-30-11, 19:25
If you don't like what someone posts put them on ignore. Click on their name and add them to your ignore list.
Eric Cartman
07-01-11, 05:01
Was at L'Uomo tonight only because it had been over a week since I'd seen my gal pal who started working there, and I needed a fix before she comes over to my apartment tomorrow night. Yeah I was jonesing.
Anyway, same old story on the rest of the chicks there. 1 or 2 faces but lots of the same old same old. Place really needs to shake itself up. Clear out the older girls. My girls said they are all praying for August to come to reap the benefits of Europeans on holidays. Wonder how it will be this year with the R$ still so strong (hit 1. 566 today USD).
R$378 for 1 hr. 2 beers for her, a water for me. Worst part was the cold churro on the way there. That's what I get for buying churros at 8pm. Best part (after her) was the walk back on Barata Ribeiro past Big Bi. Tangerina copao and a kibe with molho de pimenta. Yum!
Was at L'Uomo tonight . same old story on the rest of the chicks there. 1 or 2 faces but lots of the same old same old. Place really needs to shake itself up. Clear out the older girls.Yesterday, Fernando (the guy who hangs around Balcony touting for Carretao, Luomo, Monte Carlo and the Copa prives. In that order) told me that luomo had changed. I had said that on last trip it had been dull (few girls, all sat around bored, the best thing was the feijoada). He ASSURED me that it had been revamped, slightly higher price but now 70 GIRLS! I didn't believe him. Is Luomo in decline?
Yesterday, Fernando (the guy who hangs around Balcony touting for Carretao, Luomo, Monte Carlo and the Copa prives. In that order) told me that luomo had changed. I had said that on last trip it had been dull (few girls, all sat around bored, the best thing was the feijoada). He ASSURED me that it had been revamped, slightly higher price but now 70 GIRLS! I didn't believe him. Is Luomo in decline?I agree that L'uomo has not been good for a very long time. At least not for me. I stopped by anyway on my last trip, and I had some of my best sessions ever in Rio! In fact, I had my best anal session EVER there last trip, and I had another session that I would qualify as a candidate for best all around ever from any girl in any place in the world I have been. Remember: the place that sucked the last time just may be the bomb the next time! The girls I sessioned with there were Paulina and Natasha.
I'm currently going through a recount of my last Rio trip in Anal Connoisseurs, and I think I'll probably get to the first of my sessions with those two over the weekend. Now, I'm sure that for a guy like Cartman who lives down there, it still may all be old hat and easy to remain bored with the place. But for somebody like me who isn't there all the time, I actually saw some improvement over what was there during several prior trips.
They were also running several specials. I asked the lady at the front desk if the specials were for any day, and she told me yes. I was told that if you get there between 3 p.m. and 5 p.m., the entrance fee would be waived. Take a tute between 5 p.m. and 7 p.m. and get a session for half price. Also, I believe you can go online and get a discount coupon for R$35 that can be used toward any service at the club. There is a little catch on the coupon though. You have to arrive after 9 p.m. A very nice improvement over at L'uomo has been the reintroduction of dinner back into the mix. I think they only have it on Saturdays though. I happened to be there on a Saturday when they had the feijoada. It wasn't as good as when I had it for the first time at a sit-down restaurant, but it was still quite tasty, except for the "saw dust" (farofa) which I take a pass on.
In short, I had a good time at L'uomo last time out. A VERY good time! Somebody else can too. Different strokes for different folks.
Eric Cartman
07-01-11, 17:14
Yesterday, Fernando (the guy who hangs around Balcony touting for Carretao, Luomo, Monte Carlo and the Copa prives. In that order) told me that luomo had changed. I had said that on last trip it had been dull (few girls, all sat around bored, the best thing was the feijoada). He ASSURED me that it had been revamped, slightly higher price but now 70 GIRLS! I didn't believe him. Is Luomo in decline?Luomo has been in a constant state of "blah" for the past 6+ months. Sure, if you are here just for a quick trip / visit it will be acceptable. But for the price you can find hotter girls these days at 65 and MC. And maybe 4x4 and 502 if you are diligent. On the bright side luomo is open Sunday and holidays
Luomo has been in a constant state of "blah" for the past 6+ months. Sure, if you are here just for a quick trip / visit it will be acceptable. But for the price you can find hotter girls these days at 65 and MC. And maybe 4x4 and 502 if you are diligent. On the bright side luomo is open Sunday and holidaysLuomo has been a complete waste of time the last 6 months, probably longer. They just don't turn over the staff. There are maybe 6 staff members that have been there since my first trip to Rio about 8 years ago. They badly need to get rid of half the staff and start again. Breaks my heart, was my favourite place in Rio for so loooong!
Member #3439
07-02-11, 15:19
Luomo has been in a constant state of "blah" for the past 6+ months. Sure, if you are here just for a quick trip / visit it will be acceptable. But for the price you can find hotter girls these days at 65 and MC. And maybe 4x4 and 502 if you are diligent. On the bright side luomo is open Sunday and holidaysI always have better luck at 4x4 for good service. I interview a lot when I go there. Interviewing at Luomo doesn't get you very far. I think due to the smaller number of girls at Luomo, the girls get fucked too much and are jaded. The girl Ingrid for example was practically a celebrity. If the black girl Pietra comes / is back, I recommend her for marathon butt sex and cum swallow, but other than that I am really apprehensive about going there. Remember I had to walk out of there in February for a half refund with my dick half cocked because a girl was wanting to use a rubber for BJ. The girl in Feb. Agreed to everything and anything when I interviewed her then got rubbery back in the room. And a girl (Ane) tried CBJ on me in 2009 there as well. What is Rio coming to when big cost doesn't guarantee service? For that money the girls should have a menu like the Devils Den in Pattaya. YMMV. Other people have great time. Depends on the girl, the guy, the time, the day, whether she's pissed about something outside work. Just like a normal girl except she's charging muito Reais. I fucked Luomo's Pietra last year, memorable because of great service and her being only my second black girl. If she is back now from her hiatus, everyone should be tapping that one. I heard she was spotted at a grocery in Copa back in January or so.
I'm surprised that you continue to hit termas. I think Bar 22 girls can be molded to what you want due to placing lower values on themselves. If there isn't something there that you like, they know favela girls that you would like. Would that I had more time in Rio, I would make an arrangement for sure with either with a 22 girl or one of her friends.
P. S. Friends, I am over in Manila having an outstanding time with excellent service, LT no prob, BB everything. Everything Brasil used to be before this gentrification started. Recommended for those alley cats who go banging in VM.
YMMV. Other people have great time. Depends on the girl, the guy, the time, the day, whether she's pissed about something outside work. Just like a normal girl except she's charging muito Reais.I had a GREAT time! First L'uomo post coming today.
If the black girl Pietra comes / is back, I recommend her for marathon butt sex and cum swallowQuestion about this girl Pietra. Was she there in May of 2009? Just asking because I banged a black chick there (brown complextion) who was a great fuck, but I don't remember her name. She had braces and some long extensions in her hair. She was also very excited to show me pics of her dressed up for carnival. She gave me her # and email but I lost both.
Member #3439
07-03-11, 09:02
Question about this girl Pietra. Was she there in May of 2009? Just asking because I banged a black chick there (brown complextion) who was a great fuck, but I don't remember her name. She had braces and some long extensions in her hair. She was also very excited to show me pics of her dressed up for carnival. She gave me her # and email but I lost both.Here are pics I posted of her, just the important parts. Maybe it helps. I don't remember any braces, but I had her June 2010 so they might have been off by then. Luomo tends to have plenty of black chicks so it might have been another.
1037627
Here are pics I posted of her, just the important parts. Maybe it helps. I don't remember any braces, but I had her June 2010 so they might have been off by then. Luomo tends to have plenty of black chicks so it might have been another.
1037627Ok, thanks man. I don't think that's her. Thanks for the pics though.
See post #1454:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1080-Anal-Connoisseurs
See posts #1460 and #1461.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1080-Anal-Connoisseurs
Mr Enternational
07-05-11, 01:46
Does anybody know for sure how tall Alessandra is / was? I fucked her a long ass time ago. Now I'm fucking a non-pro midget here in Thailand who is 4'6" (1.40m) and I just wanted to compare the two.
Does anybody know for sure how tall Alessandra is / was? I fucked her a long ass time ago. Now I'm fucking a non-pro midget here in Thailand who is 4'6" (1.40m) and I just wanted to compare the two.If somebody like midget-sex I can recommend Vila Mimosa.
When I was strolling in VM I saw a woman sitting in a window. She was topless and had very beautiful tits, nice face and was around 25 years. I was in a hurry so I chose her without any further scanning. However, when she got down from the window, where she was sitting, she almost disappeared. It turned out that she was a kind of midget. Not a chubby disproportioned midget, but more like a slim midget. I'm certainly not into midget-sex but I didn't want to insult her by cancelling the session.
I've seen the midget Alessandra who used to work in Copa. She's definitely not my cup of tea. However it always surprised me how she was so popular. Being a midget must have been a really good asset.
Member #3439
07-05-11, 08:11
If somebody like midget-sex I can recommend Vila Mimosa.
When I was strolling in VM I saw a woman sitting in a window. She was topless and had very beautiful tits, nice face and was around 25 years. I was in a hurry so I chose her without any further scanning. However, when she got down from the window where she was sitting she almost disappeared. It turned out that she was a kind of midget. Not a chubby disproportioned midget, but more like a slim midget. I'm certainly not into midget-sex but I didn't want to insult her by cancelling the session.
I've seen the midget Alessandra who used to work in Copa. She's definitely not my cup of tea. However it always surprised me how she was so popular. Being a midget must have been a really good asset.This is so distinctive, I'm tempted to post it to RODs! But let's expand the topic!
It begs the discussion of a broader topic, namely, where does one find fetish or kinky stuff in Rio? I've been all through Rio P4P places from Sul to Norte and read almost every post for 4 years and never, EVER, have never found or seen anyone speak of anything but vanilla sex with normal girls. Surely in Rio there is something more kinky than fucking girls in the ass or going to 2A2. The weirdest thing I've seen here is SlimHoleDrill commenting last year that he sucks Brasilian GDPs toes, and that's not so weird at all. Once again, as when originally he posted it, I'll say that I respect him for even admitting that!! That was his response to my reports of my dining at GDPs assholes....haha.! So, how about pregnant girls, Dominatrix girls, Submissive Girls, Girls in fetish costumes, gangbang parties for example? Where is it in Rio?
Anyone care to chime in? If someone wants to open a kinky shop in Rio, holy shit Luomo MC and the other ripoff places would be hurting because after a while the plain boom-boom does get boring and a guy looks for a new thrill.
Just based purely on my observations, even Chicago, USA has more kink that Rio. May the ISG gods forgive me for comparing Rio to a place in Sex Prison, hopefully I am wrong about this, but Chi is similar in size to Rio and I know it, so I use it as the comparator. Some crazy shit goes down in Chicago for example and it is largely free, not paid, just girls getting their psychological kicks by doing weird shit with random guys. In Rio, I've never heard of anything except 'coitus' plain and simple. The only thing that seems to vary is the name and skin color of the girl and which orifice of the girl the 'coitus' is happening at! . So while plain conservative sex is easy to buy there, try doing anything atypical at Luomo or a Centro casa and you'll wonder why every girl is laughing the next time you walk in the door. Haha.
All the kinky folks and fetishists need to go to Tokyo. Any weird shit you can think of, they have a special shop for that. Or if they don't, ask the papa or mama and they'll find what you are looking for at some affiliate shop. But bring a fat wallet and forget having money for that next trip to Rio.
p.s. my Rio friends. Just got done in Manila and Cebu City. IME, Manila absolutely blows Rio away for GFE and BBFS but is not for the faint hearted or safety minded, meaning there is danger to both dick and life. But Rio is much safer. As I am learning after-the-fact, apparently if you bareback there that means there is no contraception in use as they don't believe in pills. So in the best case for a long term stay, maybe you replace yourself before the muggers, jealous WGs or crooked cops kill you. Think Dodge City, Kansas circa the 1800s. Wild East instead of Wild West. lol. YMMV. I cut my stay short because it was getting out of hand, both my actions and the girls and I know when to say 'when!'. Just my thoughts, for your consideration while planning your next destination.
This is so distinctive, I'm tempted to post it to RODs! But let's expand the topic!
It begs the discussion of a broader topic, namely, where does one find fetish or kinky stuff in Rio? I've been all through Rio P4P places from Sul to Norte and read almost every post for 4 years and never, EVER, have never found or seen anyone speak of anything but vanilla sex with normal girls. Surely in Rio there is something more kinky than fucking girls in the ass or going to 2A2.
Just based purely on my observations, even Chicago, USA has more kink that Rio. May the ISG gods forgive me for comparing Rio to a place in Sex Prison, hopefully I am wrong about this, but Chi is similar in size to Rio and I know it, so I use it as the comparator. Some crazy shit goes down in Chicago for example and it is largely free, not paid, just girls getting their psychological kicks by doing weird shit with random guys. In Rio, I've never heard of anything except 'coitus' plain and simple. The only thing that seems to vary is the name and skin color of the girl and which orifice of the girl the 'coitus' is happening at! . So while plain conservative sex is easy to buy there, try doing anything atypical at Luomo or a Centro casa and you'll wonder why every girl is laughing the next time you walk in the door. Haha.I'll sorta agree with you, PP. I'm in Chi as well, and know of what you're talking about. But full disclosure please. Those "girls getting their psychological kicks by doing weird shit with random guys" are for the most part BBW's housewives past their prime, (5' 05".180lbs+.35yrs to 55yrs+.) Yeah, sure, they're into non stop, three hole gang bangs, CIM, Bukakki, DP, but still! Using Melrose as an example, for every Angel, (if you were lucky to have met her,) there are a hundred Janey's. Largely free? Don't forget the $15 cover charge to get into Melrose, lets not get into the other fees there. And let's not forget the hit and miss nature of these activities.
Yes, there are other places to go in the Chicago and NW Indiana area, but they mostly cater to couples and limit the number of single guys admitted in. There are also private groups which meet in homes or motels, those cost $50 to $75. You don't know what you're going to get til you get there. Some gems can be found this way.
Now if you want to play with bodies close to what Rio has to offer, I suggest Tampa or California. But you better be in good shape yourself. Also be prepared to pay 10x what Melrose charges for cover.
Rio swing clubs:
I went to 2a2 many years ago. I found it mostly older Cariocas playing there. I found them to be very cliquish. Trying to find some younger swinging Cariocas, my last trip, I went to Club Mix, Rua do Mercado. 25 – Praça XV in Centro, as swing club Festa 18a plays there. For my $R130 cover, I got to see some action, but didn't get any action. The Chi gals beat the Rio gals in that regard, as the majority of the swinging Chi gals will take on any dick. The place was also cliquish. There were some attractive Cariocas, but very few of Termas quality. Festa 18a also has fetish theme events.
http://www.clubmixbar.com.br/cmb.html
http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/
The B L O G link has the info, with pics, of the previous weeks event. The link is the second one from the right.
The other Rio swing club I'm aware of is:
http://misturacerta.com.br/
Located in cento, I've never visited, figured it be cliquish too. From previous posts, It appears one has to bring sand to these beaches to get some action in these clubs.
Fetish:
Yes, surprisingly there's not alot. Many years ago, in a visit to Sao Paulo, I found only one:
http://www.clubedominna.com/
Set up in an old Mansion. They had the racks, whips, bondage gear, no sex though. Not too many participants either.
There's suppose to be a Fetish Club in the Lapa area. I was not able to get to it my last trip:
http://www.fetixe.com/index_en.html
And.
http://www.fetixe-rio.com.br/
(site down as of this posting)
As to Chi being similar in size to Rio, does not look like that to me when I'm flying into O'Hare. Enjoy the Fetish links, there are some Rio phone numbers there.
SlimHoleDrill
07-06-11, 22:30
Ok, thanks man. I don't think that's her. Thanks for the pics though.Pietra was definitely there in May 2009 but I don't think she ever had braces, not that I ever saw. You may be thinking of Manu who is also tall, black with long hair and speaks English very well. Also, as noted on this board, is pretty aggressive in trying to get together outside the club. I seem to recall she had braces at one time. There was also a spinner type at that time with braces, pretty new back then, don't remember her name.
When I was in luomo last year I found two 9's or dare I say two 10's. They both had incredible bodies, but I don't remember the names. I do recall one had braces with perfect natural the tits. The problem with luomo is the energy is gone. The place used to be packed with girls and guys. Now its a few bored out of their mind girls praying for clients to come in. They are no longer batting in the top 3. They are the designated hitter now.
Pirata2011
07-07-11, 13:39
Anyone that can tell me more about the disco HELP.
I was there in 2006 with my girlfriend. When she was away for 5-10 minutes 5 girls appraoched me. 3 of them stunning.
I think HELP is the best place I ever been to during 2 years of travelling in SA.
Exec Talent
07-07-11, 14:58
Anyone that can tell me more about the disco HELP.
I was there in 2006 with my girlfriend. When she was away for 5-10 minutes 5 girls appraoched me. 3 of them stunning.
I think HELP is the best place I ever been to during 2 years of travelling in SA.Help is currently undergoing some renovations. You probably wouldn't even recognize the place. Might be a good time for you to reschedule a revisit but before you do, you also might want to do a search of this forum on the word "HELP"
Does anyone know if this still an avenue for non-pros in the evening now that Help is gone?
Gfe Finder
07-08-11, 12:45
Does anyone know if this still an avenue for non-pros in the evening now that Help is gone?Did you mean Terraco Atlantico next to Help? If so, what ET says below regarding Help and its fate applies to your question, too.
Frenchieboy
07-08-11, 19:29
Help is currently undergoing some renovations. You probably wouldn't even recognize the place. Might be a good time for you to reschedule a revisit but before you do, you also might want to do a search of this forum on the word "HELP"Funny answer ET!
So for those of you, who are fans of Rua Uruguania 24, I've just heard it was busted just last week and is now closed. Apparently there were a couple of minors there. They [the police] carted off both girls and guys to the cop shop. This again goes to show, that screening the girls is very important, even in places where you may believe that the screening of minors has already been done for you...
Apparently, UG 24 is back up and running. I guess somebody decided to pay their bribe, arrrh I mean power bill. (Typical, as some of you veterans guessed!)
Apparently, UG 24 is back up and running. I guess somebody decided to pay their bribe, arrrh I mean power bill. (Typical, as some of you veterans guessed!)At approximately 8:30 tonight, I realized that the owners (father and son) of 4 x 4 did not pay their power bill either. The federal police stormed in and shut the place down. They busted in taking pictures of clients and employees. Girls were running and hiding so they would not come out in the fotos. Guys wearing badges were also knocking and openning cabina doors.
About an hour later, they let the customers out the door. However, they did take down the customers information from offical I. D. 's.
About half the guys in the joint were really pissed because they are married and concerned about their pictures coming out in the newspaper. Assummimg this does make the paper.
I had just finished my 3rd whiskey and was having a good time goofing around with a couple of morenas when the whole thing went down. I paid for my 3 drinks and entrance (110R) , and tried to get the hell out of there as quickly as possible. Yes, I did complain to one of the receptionist about having to pay for entrance when being forced to leave.
I saw a couple of 4 x 4 girls with a really worried look in their faces in the Whiskeria being interrogated by the police who were writing down information.
I was out of there by 9:30pm.
As for the place before the raid. It was actually a bit weak. I was there 2 weeks ago, and there was better quality and quantity compared to tonight. Forget about going on Monday, half the girls will probably get spooked and not go to work. Have a good night gentlemen!
Member #3439
07-09-11, 03:55
At approximately 8:30 tonight, I realized that the owners (father and son) of 4 x 4 did not pay their power bill either. The federal police stormed in and shut the place down. They busted in taking pictures of clients and employees. Girls were running and hiding so they would not come out in the fotos. Guys wearing badges were also knocking and openning cabina doors.
About an hour later, they let the customers out the door. However, they did take down the customers information from offical I. D. 's.Now is a perfect time to recount the last Centro raid reports, which happened almost exactly 2 years ago.
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I was arrested in Manila last week for a petty public smoking violation and got hauled off to the station. Scared the shit out of me cause I also had resisted arrest, because at first when they grabbed me and threw me into the van, I thought I was being abducted. The cops were dirty, demanded a fine 10x the norm in lieu of jail time, then took a small amount that was in my pockets. I tricked them into thinking that if they took me back to my hotel immediately I would pay them the 10x fine from money in my room, but I never came back out of the hotel.
I think being busted in the middle of sex like these people in Rio, might traumatize me forever. FYI, there have been P4P raids in Angeles City as well. Whole world is going to shit.
Yes, I meant Terraco Atlantico, but Bubba's report seemed to indicate Mea Pateca was still a non-pro venue despite the loss of Help so I was wondering about Terraco Atlantico; and I'm looking for other non-club options near Rio Roiss Hotel. I like to make my own porn, which is difficult / impossible in the termas. Thanks.
Yes, I meant Terraco Atlantico, but Bubba's report seemed to indicate Mea Pateca was still a non-pro venue despite the loss of Help so I was wondering about Terraco Atlantico; and I'm looking for other non-club options near Rio Roiss Hotel. I like to make my own porn, which is difficult / impossible in the termas. Thanks.The Balcony Bar located between the Copacabana Palace Hotel and Mabs is the place now my friend. Help and Terraco Atlantico are gone for good. The action has now shifted down towards the other end. The Rio Roiss is no longer a good choice for being near the major Copacabana beachfront nighttime action. And it's a much smaller scene. I like it better than the old one. But then, I was never a big Help/TA fan. For me, the best thing about the old scene was the spectacle of it all! Good luck!
Thanks. Any hotel recs (low or no guest fees) on that part of the beach? Much appreciated.
Frenchieboy
07-10-11, 15:08
Thanks. Any hotel recs (low or no guest fees) on that part of the beach? Much appreciated.Copacabana Palace no I am joking, close to Mei Pataca you have Rio Othon Palace (no low rates)
Or Lancaster Othon hotel average rates and close to the Balcony.
Have a nice stay in Rio (was in Rio twice this last year and back in October!)
TandAforever
07-10-11, 20:02
Part 4 – Rio de Janeiro (See ISG Sao Paulo section for part 3 and the ISG Florianopolis section for part 2 and the ISG Porto Allegre section for part 1 of my Brazil Report)
I arrived in Rio de Janeiro in the morning. I did some internet surfing and the choices looked daunting. I found this website that offered afternoon terma tours:
http://www.adelatours.com
I emailed through the website. I got a response back but they were booked that night. I booked a terma tour for the following day.
But that night, out of boredom, I got in contact with an escort service that my hotel clerk recommended. The girl who answered the phone at the agency spoke English. I asked her for a skinny brunette. When the "skinny brunette" girl arrived, it was a bad surprise. She was very large to say the least. I politely told her I wasn't feeling well and sent her on her way with taxi money. I decided to wait until the next day for my tour.
The next day I met my tour guide in front of my hotel; he was a local Brazilian named Antonio and he spoke good English. We started in the afternoon and taxied directly to the first terma. The selection at the terma was around 15 girls. I liked three of them. The first of the three girls, Marta, was a thin girl, around 5'3'. She quoted me a price of 120 BRZ for an hour. Antonio finalized the deal with the manger and I took Marta to a back room. She was passionate and friendly. The service was BBBJ with excellent tongue action, doggie, and then 69 followed by doggie again. I think the terma was called Florida Terma. It was on Praça Mauá street but I don't know the number or website.
Next we went to another terma. I don't remember the name of this one but I wish I did. It was in the Centro area. There were around 12 girls and there were two I liked. The one I chose was a petite blond with beautiful brown eyes. Once again Antonio translated for me and helped seal the deal. The price was only 100 BRZ for an hour. The room was adequate and the service was great. She did everything like a pro. BBBJ, and multiples positions with passionate sex.
For our last stop I asked the guide to take me to a place where I could sit and watch some shows because I was too tired for more action. I mentioned Barbarela because I had seen a Barbarela flyer in my hotel. We grabbed a taxi and went to Barbarela. At 60 BRZ the entrance was expensive, but the show was entertaining. Some garotas did make some offers, but I just brushed them aside. We stayed for about 2 hours and then left.
So far this was my best night in Brazil. I had two good experiences for two good prices. My guide made the difference because he made up for my deficiency in Portuguese and local knowledge. My tour guide was an excellent example of the power of specialization and division of labor.
On night three, my last night, I decided to try some big name clubs. I tried two. First I went to Centaurus. This place is a joke. I was getting quoted 400 BRZ prices for girls who I would not do for free. I was there for around 30 minutes and couldn't stand it anymore and left.
Next I tried Solarium. http://www.solarium.com.br/. I was getting quoted 350 BRZ and above. The quality was better than Centarus but still too expensive. I left quickly and went back to my hotel.
That was enough for me.
I didn't care that I struck out on my last night. My second night had made it worthwhile. Better to have no experience and not pay for it, then have a bad experience and pay for it.
My conclusions regarding Brazil:
The language barrier proved to be a huge obstacle in all the Brazilian cities I visited. I was not prepared for this. Spanish won't get you by. Also, my lack of local knowledge often put me into the wrong clubs where prices were two to three times what the locals paid.
I would recommend that if you are quoted a price that is higher than what the locals pay, walk away. When price discrimination is practiced, it only ruins it for everyone else. You might want to avoid any name brand places and try to find the more unknown places. I think such a strategy can cut the price in half to a third.
In Brazil, I would avoid Florianopolis for paid sex.
Similarly, I would avoid Porto Allegre.
For Sao Paulo, if you can get a local guide that knows the establishments and speaks Portuguese, or if you have the time and map out the establishments yourself here on ISG and learn some Portuguese, I believe you can have a great time. A knowledgeable taxi driver made the difference for me in Sao Paulo but didn't help with translation.
In Rio, my tour guide really made the difference with choosing establishments and translating. It is great that someone offers tours to the termas and speaks Portuguese.
Good mongering.
Eric Cartman
07-10-11, 20:49
Has anyone been out to Paris Cafe in Recreio recently?
Was talking to a galpal who works there now (after short stints at Cancun. 65, MC). She said that it has the same owner as 4x4, and she thinks it is likely to get raided now that 4x4 has been raided. She also said that it generally is open until 4am, even during the week. And she said that the clientele actually has a strong mix of gringos due to int'l companies near Barra. Including Microsoft. And that the majority of Brazilian clients are rich young guys from Barra (from rich families).
I have no idea if any of this is true, nor do I particularly want to drive 1hr+ to find out.
-Cartman
Eric Cartman
07-10-11, 21:18
I think Aerosmith put it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705LEH3j2g0
BubbaBoy pointed out to me, earlier this week, that I had managed to come a long way in a few months. I had galpals (from T's) lined up to come over and spend the night on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Needless to say only 50%+ of those actually stuck. But hey that's something.
That said, I am feeling a bit Jaded about Rio right now. What seems to be missing is the mind-blowing sex with hot-as-all-fuck girls that seemed to be the norm in the past. Maybe it's just because the T's are low on talent now between economic opportunities and the off-season. I must admit I'm not doing incall from the higher priced agenices / solo escorts. I suppose in theory they could have better bodies / looks. Just never really seemed so.
Maybe it's just that familiarity breeds contempt? Don't get me wrong. Living here is like being an ice-cream lover working at Ben & Jerry's. But lately it's been more Chunky Monkey than (Stephen Colbert's) Americone Dream.
I am wide open to suggestions to bring the crazy-whacked-out-sex back with super hot chicks. Lay it on me.
-Cartman
Copacabana Palace no I am joking, close to Mei Pataca you have Rio Othon Palace (no low rates)
Or Lancaster Othon hotel average rates and close to the Balcony.
Have a nice stay in Rio (was in Rio twice this last year and back in October!) Copacabana Palace does not allow guests. Ditto Rio Othon Palace.
I think Aerosmith put it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705LEH3j2g0
BubbaBoy pointed out to me, earlier this week, that I had managed to come a long way in a few months. I had galpals (from T's) lined up to come over and spend the night on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Needless to say only 50%+ of those actually stuck. But hey that's something.
That said, I am feeling a bit Jaded about Rio right now. What seems to be missing is the mind-blowing sex with hot-as-all-fuck girls that seemed to be the norm in the past. Maybe it's just because the T's are low on talent now between economic opportunities and the off-season. I must admit I'm not doing incall from the higher priced agenices / solo escorts. I suppose in theory they could have better bodies / looks. Just never really seemed so.
Maybe it's just that familiarity breeds contempt? Don't get me wrong. Living here is like being an ice-cream lover working at Ben & Jerry's. But lately it's been more Chunky Monkey than (Stephen Colbert's) Americone Dream.
I am wide open to suggestions to bring the crazy-whacked-out-sex back with super hot chicks. Lay it on me.
-CartmanUnbelievable! I know all of Cartman's women, they are all 8's or above. No reason to complain at all.
Been to Paris Cafe, thoroughly recommend it.
At 4 X 4 or are you refering to the old raids that happened a while back? If there was a recent raid, please, please, please let us all know when and what happened, especially if this is a new event. I'm headed there in about a month and I would find alternate fun if I need to avoid this place for not paying off their bureacracy. Just wondering what's going on.
Has anyone been out to Paris Cafe in Recreio recently?
Was talking to a galpal who works there now (after short stints at Cancun. 65, MC). She said that it has the same owner as 4x4, and she thinks it is likely to get raided now that 4x4 has been raided. She also said that it generally is open until 4am, even during the week. And she said that the clientele actually has a strong mix of gringos due to int'l companies near Barra. Including Microsoft. And that the majority of Brazilian clients are rich young guys from Barra (from rich families).
I have no idea if any of this is true, nor do I particularly want to drive 1hr+ to find out.
-Cartman
Was at Luomo's this past week, walked in early, did not have to pay entrance. Was there for an hour and a half, had couple of drinks, not impressed at all by the talent. So I took a hike. Pains me to point this out, because Luomo's was the first termas I ever entered. But it is was it is!
I have not been to Solarium because of reports in this forum as well as a couple of friends that went to Solarium a couple of weeks ago. Bottom line. Weak line up.
4 x 4. Was there a couple of weeks ago, wonderful as always. I was there again this past Friday, and I thought there was less talent. But doable. Then raid goes down, and screws up my evenning.
Monte Carlo. What can I say. I don't frquent this place often. In fact, I haven't been there in about 2 or 3 years now. I was pleasantly surprised. Plenty of garota's to choose from. Many of them using bomba. I didn't end up choosing any of the hotest girls, rather one that I had really good chemistry with. This mulata went all out in the suite. 1hr in the suite. 4 drinks, plus entrance + 492R Wow! I rarely do this, but I was there for 4 hours of drinking, grabbing ass, making out, and lots of joking around with a couple of different gals before taking the mulata in the cabina for a porn experience. Thats probably the last Termas I will go to for a while until I hook with a couple of brasilian friends that want to celebrate a birthday party at 4 x 4.
Overall, Monte Carlo right now has the edge on good looking babes, but I think its do more to the fact that the other termas right now have a week staff which makes the MC staff look that much better. Good crew, but the prices are just out of hand. If you can, do what I did, get the girls number and meet her outside the club if you can. If luck is on your side, you might even get a freebie like I did today. It was her day of from Monte Carlo.
Thought I would point out that there are a couple of different characters (clients) that go to Monte Carlo almost on a daily basis who I are in a world of there own. One guy wears a cowboy hat and half street clothes and the robe, he dances with the same girls every night, then goes off to a corner and picks the same girl (everytime) to either make out in the corner, or take her to a cabina. Its all good, but the guy has this arrogance as though he is Hugh hefner (give me a break ).
Then there is another guy, who thinks that the boate is the location for tryouts for dancing with the stars. According to what a couple of different girls told me, this guys comes in everyday as well, and dances non stop, including by himself in the middle of the club. Thats all good, however, for Godsake, I think that a 50 yr old man shouldn't be dancing to musica electronica and attempting to do all of these silly rave dance moves (keep in mind, he is wearing a robe) while hogging up the entire dance floor doing all of these wild moves. What a baffoon! Funny part is. He also thinks he is a bad ass! GOOD NEWS. I am happy and proud to report that both of these starving for attention idiots are not, I repeat, are not gringo's! They are both brasilians! Usually, its tourists that act silly, and give the rest of us a bad name or reputation.
What can I say. It is what it is! :)
Eric Cartman
07-10-11, 23:58
At 4 X 4 or are you refering to the old raids that happened a while back? If there was a recent raid, please, please, please let us all know when and what happened, especially if this is a new event.Check a couple posts down. 4x4 was raided this past Friday night (July 8 2011).
Eric Cartman
07-11-11, 00:05
Was at Luomo's this past week, walked in early, did not have to pay entrance. Was there for an hour and a half, had couple of drinks, not impressed at all by the talent. So I took a hike. Pains me to point this out, because Luomo's was the first termas I ever entered. But it is was it is!
I have not been to Solarium because of reports in this forum as well as a couple of friends that went to Solarium a couple of weeks ago. Bottom line. Weak line up.
4 x 4. Was there a couple of weeks ago, wonderful as always. I was there again this past Friday, and I thought there was less talent. But doable. Then raid goes down, and screws up my evenning.
Monte Carlo. What can I say. I don't frquent this place often. In fact, I haven't been there in about 2 or 3 years now. I was pleasantly surprised. Plenty of garota's to choose from. Many of them using bomba. I didn't end up choosing any of the hotest girls, rather one that I had really good chemistry with. This mulata went all out in the suite. 1hr in the suite. 4 drinks, plus entrance + 492R Wow! I rarely do this, but I was there for 4 hours of drinking, grabbing ass, making out, and lots of joking around with a couple of different gals before taking the mulata in the cabina for a porn experience. Thats probably the last Termas I will go to for a while until I hook with a couple of brasilian friends that want to celebrate a birthday party at 4 x 4.
Overall, Monte Carlo right now has the edge on good looking babes, but I think its do more to the fact that the other termas right now have a week staff which makes the MC staff look that much better. Good crew, but the prices are just out of hand. If you can, do what I did, get the girls number and meet her outside the club if you can. If luck is on your side, you might even get a freebie like I did today. It was her day of from Monte Carlo.
Thought I would point out that there are a couple of different characters (clients) that go to Monte Carlo almost on a daily basis who I are in a world of there own. One guy wears a cowboy hat and half street clothes and the robe, he dances with the same girls every night, then goes off to a corner and picks the same girl (everytime) to either make out in the corner, or take her to a cabina. Its all good, but the guy has this arrogance as though he is Hugh hefner (give me a break ).
Then there is another guy, who thinks that the boate is the location for tryouts for dancing with the stars. According to what a couple of different girls told me, this guys comes in everyday as well, and dances non stop, including by himself in the middle of the club. Thats all good, however, for Godsake, I think that a 50 yr old man shouldn't be dancing to musica electronica and attempting to do all of these silly rave dance moves (keep in mind, he is wearing a robe) while hogging up the entire dance floor doing all of these wild moves. What a baffoon! Funny part is. He also thinks he is a bad ass! GOOD NEWS. I am happy and proud to report that both of these starving for attention idiots are not, I repeat, are not gringo's! They are both brasilians! Usually, its tourists that act silly, and give the rest of us a bad name or reputation.
What can I say. It is what it is! .Great report. Remember, if you register at MC, with the little fingerprint reader (hint. Use a fake name) , you get a free entrance every time (I think) cumulatively you spend R$500+. So after 1-2 visits it pays for itself. I get a free entrada about 50% of the time now and it makes the 1hr price R$370 or something. Just keep an eye on your drink spending. They also have been running some internet specials lately. Go to their website and register. One was for using the price of your entrada as "consumption" (you can put it towards drinks).
Agree it's a great place. Really has been the best in Copa for a while. Funny you mention the Cowboy. He's basically been coming there every day since Jan or Feb. Apparently he's some rich-ass farmer from the interior, who figured out he can spend his money on 20 year old chicks in Rio. The one girl he sees, he gives her a lot of money outside MC as well. They treat him well as he's probably dropping R$500 there every day, every frigging day. One night recently I spent R$1001 (long story. 3 girls including a dupla) and the manger told me I was his hero. I asked "What about the Cowboy?" and he said "Tonight, you beat the Cowboy." LOL. I then suggested that the manager buy all the girls cowboy hats to wear one day, so that when he walks in the Cowboy will be like "WTF???" (For those who don't know, he always wears a wife-beater undershirt and a big old Cowboy hat in the boate).
The other dancing guy. I don't think he's 50. Short hair right? He always wears shorts under his robe. Apparently he's some flight controller for TAM or something. He does the kind of tripped-out-on-ecstasy dancing that I've only seen at Grateful Dead shows. He's harmless though. Fun crew. And yes they are Brasilians!
Glad to see my opinion of luomo recently is vindicated. I only go there now to see a beautiful black girl I know. She comes over to my apartment, but I like to throw 1 to her there now and again to help her out.
Thought I would point out that there are a couple of different characters (clients) that go to Monte Carlo almost on a daily basis who I are in a world of there own. One guy wears a cowboy hat and half street clothes and the robe, he dances with the same girls every night, then goes off to a corner and picks the same girl (everytime) to either make out in the corner, or take her to a cabina. Its all good, but the guy has this arrogance as though he is Hugh hefner (give me a break ).
Then there is another guy, who thinks that the boate is the location for tryouts for dancing with the stars. According to what a couple of different girls told me, this guys comes in everyday as well, and dances non stop, including by himself in the middle of the club. Thats all good, however, for Godsake, I think that a 50 yr old man shouldn't be dancing to musica electronica and attempting to do all of these silly rave dance moves (keep in mind, he is wearing a robe) while hogging up the entire dance floor doing all of these wild moves. What a baffoon! Funny part is. He also thinks he is a bad ass! GOOD NEWS. I am happy and proud to report that both of these starving for attention idiots are not, I repeat, are not gringo's! They are both brasilians! Usually, its tourists that act silly, and give the rest of us a bad name or reputation.I think I've seen that cowboy in a terma somewhere in Rio almost every single time I've been down there. I know I've seen him at Solarium before, and I saw him at Monte Carlo the last time I was in Rio. I didn't see the other guy. I thought the cowboy was Brazilian. Thanks for the confirmation.
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