Rio de Janeiro Reports [Archive] - Page 30

ChrisDrug

09-02-11, 04:54

I will begin with the good news. I got back to US yesterday because my Grad school semester started today. I had a breathtaking 20 days vacation in which I banged one of the youngest, hottest, few model type hot chiks total 21 chicks (4 repeats). I had the one of the best sexual episodes of my life within these three weeks. It was the best three weeks of 2011 in my book.

Up next is the bad news. I went to Rio with 1 credit and 3 debit cards. I was robbed by a Balcony puta on the day of my arrival on Aug 12th. I went to Rio with R$500 saved from last year and $5000. I hid $2000 in one of the pair of socks and exchanged $3000 at 1. 62. I paid R$2050 rent for the entire trip, plus R$350 at 4 x 4, plus a R$100 worth of cab ride (airport to copa to 4x4 to copa) , and roughly R$50 at supermarket for a light grocery. Balance: R$5360 – 2550 = R$2810 or $1735 (Stolen)

Cards Summary:

Upon arriving back to US, I called each card company and discussed each fraudulent transaction.

1- Am ex credit card: 3 transactions ($14 + $63 + $96) = $173 stolen = got full refund.

2- Chase debit 1:1 transaction ($113) stolen = got full refund.

3- Chase debit 2:1 transaction ($214) stolen = got full refund.

4- Citi debit: 3 transactions ($31 + $113 + $124) = $ 268 stolen = got full refund.

American express agent told me that the craving balcony puta tried to use the blocked am ex credit card at least 15 times after it was blocked. Chase told me that their card was even tried at ATM for cash withdraw few times. Citi had the same narrative about the ***** tried abusing their card after it was blocked too. I have been mongering for the last six years and this working girl just broke the robbery record in my mongering history. The worst I was hit was when sexy stripper stole my $700 Sony note book from my apt in the US as I was in the bathroom.

Apart from mongering, Brazilian garotas won this battle hands down too. Currently, in my mongering history, this balcony puta holds a record of robbing me of $2503, out of which $768 was credited back of my card accounts. Today was the first day of the fall semester at Grad school and I am thinking while listening to my PhD professor 'What a God damn vacation it was'.

Exec Talent

09-02-11, 07:26

The majority of the brasilians that visit 4x4 are police officers. They don't have to pay the entrada, so they go in there and play alot of grab ass with the girls. Instead of sessioning, they try to get numbers and hook up with the girls after work. The girls like to have a couple of cops on their cell phones just in case they ever get into trouble, so they do give up the pussy on their days off.Yeah, right. And the reason they wear their robes around their waists is to cover their guns (no, not that gun).

The Cane

09-02-11, 07:41

Do you realize I fucked 9 girls in two weeks! Who can I tell? This is what a married guy gets all year. Somebody get me back to a termas or an FKK quick!

God I love RioNo HungryStud, that's not meant to be a jab. It's just so funny because some guys will go down there and hump 20 or more girls in the same period of time! LOL! I know I have! Last time, I ONLY did 14 tutes but had planned to do many more than that.

Problem was, I didn't see that two a day that I just had to have. You get picky when you can basically fuck them all! LOL! And like you said, when you get back home who you are you going to tell? Hahaha! Oh, they want to hear it, but then they don't want to believe you. And if they do, then some want to start moralizing and shit.

To hell with that! Do it how you do it, and enjoy your life your way. And I have to tell you. The only way to deal with the pangs of withdrawal is to go back to Bundaville or FKKland ASAP! Yes God! We love Rio!

Kyrawz

09-02-11, 12:19

Hi guys,

I preview to go back to Rio, and I think I'm not alone to have not do everything I would want the first time, because we "discover"

I have read many reports, and I have 2/3 questions to be sure the next time.

My questions is for those who like to go on Termas and like have relation at the exterior of the Termas with the girl and have many experiences of Rio.

First, it's not difficult to take cell numbers of girls in the Termas, I propose they give, or sometimes they propose to me.

BUT! Because there is a "BUT" (not a butt) We know the most famous termas (MC. 4x4, Luomo.) ask at girls to do many work hours in the week and if they don't do they lost her job. So they are not available.

So I have hear cheapie termas as T502 are not so strict with girls. So first question : It's right?

2nd questions : Others good termas no more strict as famous Termas with girls?

3rd questions : And casas de masagems? Girls must do many hours by week to keep the job? Or are they disponible for meet them at the exterior?

Sorry for these questions. I really like Termas but I really like to see girls at the exterior. First because Termas rooms are so bad (little bed, and bad quality, bad lights, A / C broken.) and ambiance is more relax at the exterior to have fun.

Thanks.

(sorry for my bad english, I'm not US)

Jan 156

09-02-11, 18:11

Good to hear you had a great time, Chrisdrug. Sorry to hear about the hassle over your credit cards with some of the putas.

Lorenzo

09-02-11, 23:22

Up next is the bad news. I went to Rio with 1 credit and 3 debit cards. I was robbed by a Balcony puta on the day of my arrival on Aug 12th. I went to Rio with R$500 saved from last year and $5000. I hid $2000 in one of the pair of socks and exchanged $3000 at 1. 62. I paid R$2050 rent for the entire trip, plus R$350 at 4 x 4, plus a R$100 worth of cab ride (airport to copa to 4x4 to copa) , and roughly R$50 at supermarket for a light grocery. Balance: R$5360 – 2550 = R$2810 or $1735 (Stolen)Chris,

Let this be a learning experience for you. For someone smart enough to get into grad school, you need to develop some street smarts. NEVER leave your cash or credit cards anywhere that a garota can have access to them. Putting $2000 in a sock is just plain dumb. That's the first place a potential thief will look. I have read on this forum of thieves holding up someone at gunpoint and ordering him to take off his shoes and socks. They know where gringos hide things.

When I was a newbie, many years ago, I was pickpocketed by a garota I was negotiating with on Av. Atlantica. She didn't get much money, but I learned a valuable lesson from it: NEVER carry cash in your pocket, except maybe for some small bills you might need to have at your disposal. Also, never leave anything unlocked in your hotel room / apartment.

If you observe 3 cardinal rules (maybe other posters can think of more) , you should be pretty much theft-proof:

1. When you are on the street, ALWAYS use a money belt. I use one that I hang around my neck and tuck inside my shirt. There are also belts that go around your waist or around your ankle (not recommended). The only way I could be robbed is if I were held up at gunpoint (not likely if I avoid being alone on dark or obscure locations).

2. In your hotel room / apartment, ALWAYS lock up your cash and cards, either in a safe or in your suitcase, and make sure the garota doesn't see where you put the key. Better yet, use a combination lock.

3. NEVER accept a drink from a garota. If she drugs you, this negates the first two rules as it gives her ample time to search your person and / or break into a suitcase.

I could also add a fourth rule: if you are staying in an apartment that has a two-sided lock, lock the door from the inside and hide the key. That way, even if she drugs you, she won't be able to get out and will still be there when you come to.

I am assuming that you are somewhat of a newbie, and as newbies we all made mistakes. Your mistakes turned out to be very costly. Here's hoping you learned from them.

Lorenzo

Rio Bob

09-02-11, 23:56

Chris,

Let this be a learning experience for you Putting $2000 in a sock is just plain dumb. That's the first place a potential thief will look.

2. In your hotel room / apartment, ALWAYS lock up your cash and cards, either in a safe or in your suitcase, and make sure the garota doesn't see where you put the key. Better yet, use a combination lock.

LorenzoGood advice but the thief didn't find the money in the sock because she didn't look there but she found the money locked in his suitcase, apparently she picked the lock.

Below is the original post:

My baggage was locked but she inserted a pin or some other tool in the middle of the zipper to open it some how. I saw the suit cased still locked the next morning. She took my wallet and some money and left while I was knocked out from having sex with these hot chiks.

As a finance major, I have always believed in the diversification rule in terms of my investment portfolio and deposits. I had $2000 hidden in a pair of socks which fooled the puta and she couldn't steal it. Before leaving US, I have only took one credit card and two debit cards.

PatmarBeleza1

09-03-11, 00:04

yeah, right. and the reason they wear their robes around their waists is to cover their guns (no, not that gun).a good rule isvto watch, locals and do what they do.

let's assume that many off duty police do go to 4*4 for ads grabbing and getting numbers.

that suggests a good daily plan.

get up at 9, go to prive like tigresatijucana for 50r, try to get number for pernoite.

slide over to termaaa at 2 pm opening, grab bunda, dfk, get number 50r.

this would probably only work for one top pick at each location.

i agree with another poster who said the value of the termaaa is the whole casa, sauna, etc.

i actually accomplished this with one quatro girl, out of maybe 4 attempts.

i view it as a high speed language class with a pass / fail grade

PatmarBeleza1

09-03-11, 00:19

I have been around class a and class the brasileiras.

Class a are like women in America, privileged and boring.

Class the is where the fun and opportunity is. Maybe a lot is gdp, but I think if worked correctly one could be your own Mr catra, with multiple wives kids and fresh girls working in.

The social class structure is broken down into 5 groups, some times only 4, depending on which study you are looking at. There is no one definitive study.

Classe A. Above R$11, 000, 5% of population.

Classe B. Above R$ 6, 000, 20% of population.

Classe C. Above R$ 2, 500, 30% of population.

Classe D. Above R$ 2, 000, 25% of population.

Classe E. Up to R$ 1, 000, 20% of population.

This is from 1 study. The salary is per month for the whole family living under the 1 roof. Lula is credited for moving most families up a notch. I remember when I first arrived in Brasil, a salary above R$5000 per month was rare, now it is common in Zona Sul. Pay is still low by Western standards, but has probably doubled in the last 3 years. Lots of companies that pa between R$1000 & R$2000 can't find enough workers to fill all the jobs. There is also a group called "the laughing A's ", tiny per cent of the population that earns big $.

Absolutely most GDP's are from D & E groups. Any westerner is automatically assumed to be Class A, hence most GDP's will do whatever it takes be jump up into this group. This is why any Western guy that lives in Rio should have no problem having as many GDP's as he can bang come over and bang for free.

HungryStud101

09-03-11, 00:30

No HungryStud, that's not meant to be a jab. It's just so funny because some guys will go down there and hump 20 or more girls in the same period of time! LOL! I know I have! Last time, I ONLY did 14 tutes but had planned to do many more than that.

Problem was, I didn't see that two a day that I just had to have. You get picky when you can basically fuck them all! LOL! And like you said, when you get back home who you are you going to tell? Hahaha! Oh, they want to hear it, but then they don't want to believe you. And if they do, then some want to start moralizing and shit.

To hell with that! Do it how you do it, and enjoy your life your way. And I have to tell you. The only way to deal with the pangs of withdrawal is to go back to Bundaville or FKKland ASAP! Yes God! We love Rio!For a guy that gets laid 6 times a year otherwise, thats pretty good. It's like picking up a golf club the first time of the season...you do too much and you are sore. Got to build up a calous on the plam of your left had...or wear a glove. But hey man without being more specific, I had to work down there. I averaged one a day in Rio. I can do 2 are 3 a day but I canno sustain this over more than a few days and I need the help of my old pal Cialis. When I am working 10-12 hour days I can only get in one and at this I end up getting drunk and burning the candle at both ends. I prefer the Termas because I like the party atmosphere. But I always party too much.

They say in the USMC that you can hoot with the owles as long as you can soar with the eagles the next morning. I always come home fucked out, exhausted, broke, usually with pnuemonia or somthing similar. God I love it!

HungryStud101

09-03-11, 00:34

Mr Enternational

09-03-11, 03:42

I could also add a fourth rule: if you are staying in an apartment that has a two-sided lock, lock the door from the inside and hide the key. That way, even if she drugs you, she won't be able to get out and will still be there when you come to.My favorite places to hide the door key and the safe key were between the liner and the trash can in the kitchen or behind a picture frame on the wall.

Eric Cartman

09-03-11, 03:47

My favorite places to hide the door key and the safe key were between the liner and the trash can in the kitchen or behind a picture frame on the wall.Excellent! I always put the key in the back of the freezer behind whatever's in there!

Fuck even when I have girls over to my apartment who I know, I lock 'them in and hide the key. Until I really know 'them well. I'm on the top floor and there's no way out except 12 storeys down!

Mr Enternational

09-03-11, 03:48

The majority of the brasilians that visit 4x4 are police officers. They don't have to pay the entrada, so they go in there and play alot of grab ass with the girls.What is with the guys grabbing all over the girls like high school kids. Someone trying to advertise posted a YouTube video in the Fortaleza thread of two girls at a club on stage doing a lesbian show. All you saw was the Brazilian guys from the floor taking video, cell phone pictures, and trying to put their hands on any part of the girls that they could. I mean it would have been a nice show if it wasn't for all of their interference.

Eric Cartman

09-03-11, 04:04

I am saddened to say that T65 is now (or probably has been for a while) more expensive for 1 hr than Monte Carlo or L'Uomo.

R385 for an hour at 65, including entrada.

L'Uomo is checking in at only R355 or so, since they now give you 1/2 off entrada if you session (and waive it entirely on Mondays and I think any day if you are there before 7).

MC gives enough discounts online or through their loyalty program that at least 1/2 the time I am getting free entradas, making it like R365 for the hour.

I really like T65 but what is the world coming to when a centro T is more than its Zona Sul brethern.

In other news, the Real is taking a well deserved beating since Dilma lowered the Celic rate (from 12. 5% to 12%) and economic growth slowed for the first quarter in years. Got to love Brasil. Inflation is out of control, yet Dilma is so worried about slowing growth she's making it easier to borrow money!

PatmarBeleza1

09-03-11, 05:42

In other news, the Real is taking a well deserved beating since Dilma lowered the Celic rate (from 12. 5% to 12%) and economic growth slowed for the first quarter in years. Got to love Brasil. Inflation is out of control, yet Dilma is so worried about slowing growth she's making it easier to borrow money!Here is my theory of $R to bunda, over 48 months:

Sept 2008 to Dec 2008 was the best conversion rate. Dollar strong, global equities, including Bovespa (Class A and Laughing A's own businesses) in the tank, and you could get the best "conversion" (2 HR completa, CIM)

Sept 09 was a "tipping point" (I was there). Brazil gets 2016 olympics, huge bunda party on Copa beach, still max $R to bunda ratio.

2010 to 2011. Class D brasileiras are looking to taxa estupido Americanos.

So it all goes in cycles. Be a trader, and a value buyer. Where is that? Sperto, compare VM and prive's?

Brazil is the country of the future, and it always.

Phunluv

09-03-11, 07:16

American express agent told me that the craving balcony puta tried to use the blocked am ex credit card at least 15 times after it was blocked. Chase told me that their card was even tried at ATM for cash withdraw few times. Citi had the same narrative about the * tried abusing their card after it was blocked too. I have been mongering for the last six years and this working girl just broke the robbery record in my mongering history. The worst I was hit was when sexy stripper stole my $700 Sony note book from my apt in the US as I was in the bathroom.

Apart from mongering, Brazilian garotas won this battle hands down too. Currently, in my mongering history, this balcony puta holds a record of robbing me of $2503, out of which $768 was credited back of my card accounts. Today was the first day of the fall semester at Grad school and I am thinking while listening to my PhD professor 'What a God damn vacation it was'.Hmmmm, hate to pile on and pick on you but for a grad finance student, your appraisal of risk is a wee bit off, LOL! Hope you work on that before you start managing hedge funds. First of all, it's a really bad idea to have that much cash in the room, especially in Rio, especially considering you're bringing in gdps you just met. That kind of cash in a room is just begging to be lost or stolen. I think you already mentioned this in another post but next time try love motels. I'm going to avoid my usual spiel on security tips, I've wrote it all before on past trips to Colombia and Rio so do some research before you run off to your next adventure.

I will say your main problem wasn't so much the cash mistake, but your drinking. I'm not much of a drinker, especially when I monger, so it's thankfully not a problem for me, but I understand some guys simply cannot monger without getting plastered. Just realize that if you continue to mix the two activities, you're going to have to accept a greater risk of getting robbed or worse.

I suspect people bring wads of cash to avoid atm surcharges (or getting robbed leaving the atm) but there are ways to play the atm game and minimize your risk and cost. Again, I'm not going to waste more space, all these issues have been discussed ad nauseum in the forums, just do a search or look at my past reports / posts. Finally, keep in mind with these gdps you have to try to show them that you're in control of the situation from the moment you say "oi." If they get the sense you're a newbie or just plain clueless, they will almost definitely try to take advantage one way or the other. Brazil can be a lot of fun but as the saying goes, this country is not for amateurs!

Sperto

09-03-11, 08:02

It's quite chocking to read about the terma prices, R$385. That's a very expensive way to get laid in Brazil. Termas are nice. Dress up in a robe, socializing with the girls and go for a session. IMO I would find robe-termas very boring if I went more than once every trip.

VM is still fun with the big variety, but it's no longer a good value as many girls raised their prices from R$25 to R$35-40. That's for a 30 minute-session which might turn into a 20 minute-session if the d*ke downstairs decides to ring the bell.

Balcony isn't my cup of tea. The overall quality is lousy. However I wouldn't say it's necessary bad value. A friend of mine goes there twice a week. He picked some beautiful girls at Balcony and pays between R$80-100. Sessions that often turns into TLN.

The best value in Rio is without doubt the privês. I love them. It's so convenient to visit privês. A short metro-trip to centro and you'll have lots of options. I couldn't ask for more. A presentation of beautiful women in all shapes and colours, clean rooms/cabins with showers and good service. When you leave after 30-60 minutes later you do it newly showered, newly f*cked and with a big smile. I don't do any more night-mongering when in Rio because of regular GFs, so the privês suits me best.

Don't cry over Rio becoming so expensive. Try other cities. Brazil is huge. In São Paulo you have more options than you can imagine. In Manaus it cost R$50 to f*ck a Remulos stripper. In Salvador a session at Morganas massagem cost R$30. In Fortaleza I picked several free-lancers at the beach and payed between R$20-40 for 2-pop sessions. Belo Horizonte, São Luís, Belém, Macapá etc all have all offers great sex at very good value.

Ipanema Carioca

09-03-11, 18:28

"It's so convenient to visit privês."Hi Sperto! Do you have a list of "prives" in Rio to share?

ChrisDrug

09-03-11, 18:55

Chris,

Let this be a learning experience for you. For someone smart enough to get into grad school, you need to develop some street smarts. NEVER leave your cash or credit cards anywhere that a garota can have access to them. Putting $2000 in a sock is just plain dumb. That's the first place a potential thief will look. I have read on this forum of thieves holding up someone at gunpoint and ordering him to take off his shoes and socks. They know where gringos hide things.

When I was a newbie, many years ago, I was pickpocketed by a garota I was negotiating with on Av. Atlantica. She didn't get much money, but I learned a valuable lesson from it: NEVER carry cash in your pocket, except maybe for some small bills you might need to have at your disposal. Also, never leave anything unlocked in your hotel room / apartment.

If you observe 3 cardinal rules (maybe other posters can think of more) , you should be pretty much theft-proof:

1. When you are on the street, ALWAYS use a money belt. I use one that I hang around my neck and tuck inside my shirt. There are also belts that go around your waist or around your ankle (not recommended). The only way I could be robbed is if I were held up at gunpoint (not likely if I avoid being alone on dark or obscure locations).

2. In your hotel room / apartment, ALWAYS lock up your cash and cards, either in a safe or in your suitcase, and make sure the garota doesn't see where you put the key. Better yet, use a combination lock.

3. NEVER accept a drink from a garota. If she drugs you, this negates the first two rules as it gives her ample time to search your person and / or break into a suitcase.

I could also add a fourth rule: if you are staying in an apartment that has a two-sided lock, lock the door from the inside and hide the key. That way, even if she drugs you, she won't be able to get out and will still be there when you come to.

I am assuming that you are somewhat of a newbie, and as newbies we all made mistakes. Your mistakes turned out to be very costly. Here's hoping you learned from them.

LorenzoThe gloomy part is that I followed the safety precautions. I did lock both of my suit cases and there were right next to my bed. It was my first day in that studio apartment and I couldn't find a place to hide the suitcases. She slotted in a piece of equipment, tool or a knife in between the closed zipper and opened it somehow during I was sleeping worn out by a extensive flight, and partying all day. I can`t change the past and I'm sure that puta who stole $2500 had the ride of a lifetime. However, I will be genuinely take the strategy of being 'theft-proof' in consideration during my next trip to Rio one week after Christmas, in Jan 2012. Also, I am not a newbie; this was my 13th trip in the last six years.

ChrisDrug

09-03-11, 19:24

Bel Prazer hottie

El Greco

09-03-11, 20:49

She slotted in a piece of equipment, tool or a knife in between the closed zipper and opened it somehow during I was sleeping worn out by a extensive flight, and partying all day.A simple pen inserted in between the zipper can do the trick.

Ipanema Carioca

09-03-11, 22:44

The gloomy part is that I followed the safety precautions. I did lock both of my suit cases and there were right next to my bed. It was my first day in that studio apartment and I couldn't find a place to hide the suitcases. She slotted in a piece of equipment, tool or a knife in between the closed zipper and opened it somehow during I was sleeping worn out by a extensive flight, and partying all day. I can`t change the past and I'm sure that puta who stole $2500 had the ride of a lifetime. However, I will be genuinely take the strategy of being 'theft-proof' in consideration during my next trip to Rio one week after Christmas, in Jan 2012. Also, I am not a newbie; this was my 13th trip in the last six years.I very rarely allow a female to come to my apartment or hotel room, where I call my safe house. In the apartments, most girls fromCopa been to these apartments more times than all of ISG mongers together. They know the apartments and so-called "doormen"

Better than us. To hell with TLN. But to each his own. Monger safe my friends.

Baggio67

09-03-11, 23:30

I very rarely allow a female to come to my apartment or hotel room, where I call my safe house. In the apartments, most girls fromCopa been to these apartments more times than all of ISG mongers together. They know the apartments and so-called "doormen"

Better than us. To hell with TLN. But to each his own. Monger safe my friends.Use the safe that is in the apartment. I have yet to rent an apartment without a safe. Actually, it is one of the requirements for me to rent an apartment. But then again, I haven't had any problems with the girls I have brought to my apartment. My view might be different if I had trouble with girls in the past. The other thing I do is double lock the door, so the girl can't leave unless I let her out.

Jan 156

09-04-11, 03:31

I know these tips should be in the crime & safety thread but I think we all feel for ChrisDrug and hopefully he feels at least the support from his fellow mongers even if it doesn't bring the losses back. I tend to run my affairs a little differently to most of the experienced mongers, who have all given excellent advice. I don't rent apartments with safes (I'm a cheapskate!) and I slum it a lot. So for what it's worth, if this rings a bell with even a few odd people, the hand-luggage, go-native lot perhaps (?). .

(I have been robbed twice: once at VM when someone rummaged through my trousers at the end of the curtained off cubicle; and once on the street in broad daylight by three thugs who stole my phone. Total loss was about 180R plus a mobile covered by insurance. That was before I learnt to put my rolled up trousers at the pillow end of a bed, and only to walk around with a mobile that is so worthless even a thief would feel short-changed. Money couldn't buy what they bequeathed me in streetsense.)

In the space of eight years plus going to Brasil, this is my routine:-

#I use a high quality convertible backpack with a zip lining. A slashproof money wallet is padlocked to the rods under the lining that house the extendible handles. This is used for my credit cards and large notes (local and home currencies).

#I keep some medium notes, enough for 2 or 3 days, together with any other semi valuables (like a cheap camera) in a zip pocket in the main part of the backpack. The backpack is padlocked to the bed (with a steel security band going through the metal part of the backpack) , and then pushed under the bed so as not to draw attention. I lock the main backpack compartment before going out.

#Money belts are great, but I don't use them myself. They are not very helpful when I strip of in Mimosa for instance, and I don't personally think they are completely thief-proof (Nothing is, but most money belts can be emptied without undoing your trousers. It just needs one guy in front to hold your attention, and his friend behind you, if he hasn't found enough in your pockets to satisfy, just to yank it up past your belt.) Instead, I distribute money in varying amounts on my person. Loose change in an easy pocket for buses and a few bills to cover metro and sucos. Most of my pockets have zips on them anyway (try adventure travel shops). Larger notes (a few 100R) go in a hidden pocket. Some clothes have these, otherwise a few stitches and you have a hidden zip pocket inside your shirt and / or your trousers. Although it's not 100% secure, I also put money under the insoles of my trainers (my trainers are dirty to look like they are not worth stealing, even though they are Hi-tech breathable). If for some reason I have to carry a large amount of money (eg from the airport) , it goes in the legs of my trousers in pockets that can only be reached by taking the trousers off.

#My iPhone, if I bring it, is my computer. It rarely goes outside the security of my apartment.

#I make it clear to the apartment security that NO-ONE is to visit me without a phone call from reception first.

#When I have a girl in my apartment, I lock the door, hide the key (usually in an inside pocket of my trousers).

#When I go to the bathroom, I keep my trousers on. When she goes to the bathroom, I put them under the mattress. She can do what she likes in my apartment. It is pretty puta-proof. That leaves me free to be charming (unless she even mentions money up front in which case I throw her out immediately).

#When I go shopping in dumps like Copa (yes, Copa is a dump, crimewise) , I only take enough money out of my pocket to pay for what I buy with a small amount over. I know (roughly) how much is in each pocket so never have to flash. I learnt this watching an old lady sort her money out on the way into town. She had about five different places for it. In places where I need to bargain, I have a ready amount (as if my surprise) when the hand comes out the pocket. My exact bargaining amount.

#If someone looks dodgy, I assume they probably are. I'll go into a shop, take a turning, or even hightail where I came from. If someone dodgy looking suddenly gets up to alight from the bus behind me, I'll change my mind and stay on to the next stop. These measures are rare, but trust your instincts. There's nothing to 'prove' about how 'equal' you think dodgy-looking people are, or how PC or 'non-racist' you are. Just avoid them. Staying alive is superior to being right.

#If I'm on the beach (especially Copa) I assume anything that I leave unattended is fair game. Including snatchable designer sunglasses on my face, if I plan to doze. I want to go home with it again, I either sit on it or let the deckchair-renter look after it for me (I'm paying him after all).

#I am friendly when booking a strange apartment and offer / insist to read meters with the letting agent at the outset (though these days I get it all-inclusive). This saves acrimony when paying up. If I'm happy with the apartment, I pay the advance and get a written statement including dates to say the money paid includes everything.

#If there is an attempt to hijack a bus, I follow the lead of the normal Brasilians on board (has only happened once). If using a taxi, I glance at tires and whether internal controls are fixed on with sellotape. Before getting in.

#If I get lost in an unfamiliar district late at night, I keep my head down, walk with a firm steady pace, and practice my 360 degree vision without looking left or right. If very concerned about my imminent safety, I'll flag a bus down (any bus). This is done with a commanding outstretched arm, as if commanding a small child. (One doesn't 'ask' buses to stop. One 'tells' them.)

#In volatile areas, I'll avoid being near any foreigner talking in a loud voice (aka asking for trouble).

#Lastly, and most importantly, if someone is in the process of blatantly robbing me, I will let them (this is if it is past the stage where I can intervene and laugh it off as a 'misunderstanding'. Even if it wasn't). The rare exception is an unarmed puta in my apartment of course. She gets fuck all, and not even her fee till she's picked up her bag and is on the way out. The other rare exception is a monger on here who is an ex-marine or something equally scary and fights anyone. I'm not him. .

This will sound over the top to most people. But I hope it might be useful for the odd person who travels light and doesn't taxi between an expensive bedsit and 4x4. All these precautions are either arranged before arriving or else become second nature quickly. It means I relax and don't worry about getting robbed, and I hope these ideas, and the other excellent ones by previous posters, will maybe save some new visitors some grief.

Bravo

09-04-11, 05:46

Use the safe that is in the apartment. I have yet to rent an apartment without a safe. Actually, it is one of the requirements for me to rent an apartment. But then again, I haven't had any problems with the girls I have brought to my apartment. My view might be different if I had trouble with girls in the past. The other thing I do is double lock the door, so the girl can't leave unless I let her out.Double locking the door is good but they can still toss your wallet out the window to their boyfriend who is waiting outside. Your suggestion is the best, just lock everythig that is valuable inside of your safe.

Sperto

09-04-11, 06:47

The gloomy part is that I followed the safety precautions. I did lock both of my suit cases and there were right next to my bed. It was my first day in that studio apartment and I couldn't find a place to hide the suitcases. She slotted in a piece of equipment, tool or a knife in between the closed zipper and opened it somehow during I was sleeping worn out by a extensive flight, and partying all day. I can`t change the past and I'm sure that puta who stole $2500 had the ride of a lifetime. However, I will be genuinely take the strategy of being 'theft-proof' in consideration during my next trip to Rio one week after Christmas, in Jan 2012. Also, I am not a newbie; this was my 13th trip in the last six years.
You were pissed, brought a Balcony-girl back home (propably without enough screening), didn't hide the key to the door, fell asleep and got robbed.
The girl took her chance and got lucky. Hopefully you have learnt a lesson.

Hi Sperto! Do you have a list of "prives" in Rio to share?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1#post1143546

Baggio67

09-04-11, 07:07

Double locking the door is good but they can still toss your wallet out the window to their boyfriend who is waiting outside. Your suggestion is the best, just lock everythig that is valuable inside of your safe.Exactly what I do. Everything is locked in the safe, I. E. Passport, money, credit cards, and wallet.

The Cane

09-04-11, 07:31

You were pissed, brought a Balcony-girl back home (probably without enough screening), didn't hide the key to the door, fell asleep and got robbed. The girl took her chance and got lucky. Hopefully you have learnt a lesson.Drunk! One of the best defenses against being robbed is not the type of lock you have on your luggage or having a safe in your room and using it. It's not getting drunk around strangers, be that people on the street or a tute in your room, even if you think you know her. Get drunk and wake up and find your cash and valuables gone, and then you're really going to know her and what she's all about. And at your expense.

Lorenzo

09-04-11, 07:51

#Money belts are great, but I don't use them myself. They are not very helpful when I strip of in Mimosa for instance, and I don't personally think they are completely thief-proof (Nothing is, but most money belts can be emptied without undoing your trousers. It just needs one guy in front to hold your attention, and his friend behind you, if he hasn't found enough in your pockets to satisfy, just to yank it up past your belt.)Okay, strictly speaking it's not a money belt; Eagle Creek calls it a neck wallet: http://www.eaglecreek.com/accessories/security_id/Undercover-Neck-Wallet-DLX-41128/.

IMHO it is foolproof. I have been using an earlier model of the one in the link for years. It's one of the best travel investments I've ever made. I carry everything in it: cash, credit cards, passport, and have taken it all over the world. I simply hang the strap around my neck, then tuck the wallet inside my shirt. I usually wear loose shirts, so it is very difficult to detect. I suppose a very observant would-be thief might detect its outline under my shirt, but then how is he going to get to it, other than robbing me at gunpoint, which I am not likely to let happen. (For the record, I have been robbed at gunpoint only once, but it wasn't in Rio. It was in the parking lot of a motel where I was staying in Columbia, SC, USA. In retrospect it was my own fault for not looking around before getting out of my car at 2am. The guy was later arrested and is now doing time; I wasn't his only victim. But I digress.) I avoid dark and lonely places at night, and in fact at night I usually take a taxi door to door, no matter how short the trip. You can't be too cautious. Anyway, I think you'll find the neck wallet a worthwhile investment.

Exec Talent

09-04-11, 07:58

Recently when I called to reserve a room at one of my favorite Love motels they informed me that they were now a HOTEL. They said my favorite suite was still available but the price had increased. Looks like this is becoming a trend.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2011/09/03/de-olho-nas-olimpiadas-na-copa-moteis-passam-hospedar-turistas-925282953.asp

Rio Me Ever

09-04-11, 16:32

A simple pen inserted in between the zipper can do the trick.Because of this I travel with hard sided luggage that has TSA locks not zippers. I lock up "presents" like VS lotion, my laptop and outer valuables too large for the room safe. Then the suitcase is locked with a bicycle cable to a column in my room or the bed frame. These suitcases are expensive but very durable, even the airport luggage handlers / destroyers haven't ruined mine yet after 15 trips.

http://www.luggagepros.com/rimowa-topas-titanium-27-trolley-multiwheel.shtml

Stay safe out there fellows.

RME

Euro100

09-04-11, 17:13

OK, since there is interest in this topic: I always wear a money belt when mongering in Brazil. But mine actually looks like a belt and I wear it as the actual belt in my pants. It's an inch wide and has a zipper on the inside. You can fold up a few large bills and hide them in there. I first had a leather one, but it looked too nice. Then I found a cheap-looking black one that looks like a luggage strap. No thief wants it. American Eagle is where I bought it. I also wear khakis with a pocket under the belt line, which is just big enough for credit cards. Eddie Bauer has good ones. Then I make sure that I have a really old wallet with me. This wallet contains small change and a few small bills, nothing else. When I get robbed, the thieves are welcome to take this. You HAVE to have something that muggers can easily find during a holdup, because you want them to conclude their search quickly. Nobody believes that you have nothing on you, and they will keep searching, which can quickly become quite uncomfortable.

All three techniques worked splendidly when I got held up at knifepoint by several thugs. (Happened a few years ago, and I posted this on the board.) The thieves got away with a few reais and my crummy old wallet. The only thing of real value in there was a phone number I had scored from a terma girl the night before. The $500 in my money belt and my 2 credit cards went undetected.

Sperto

09-04-11, 17:34

I don't like money belts etc. I use a small simple leather pouch with a zip. Big enough for money, condoms and a small pen (for taking phone numbers). I attach a small string to the pouch and tie it to my underwear and put in down in my underwear. Nobody can see I'm wearing it. I never had any problems at all, not even in the carnivals in Salvador. As it's tied to my underwear it's very hard to loose it.

When I need to use the pouch I don't have to stick my hand down in the underwear, I just grab the string and pull it up.

P. S It works with underwear like briefs and not with loose boxer-shorts.

Bubba Boy

09-05-11, 05:57

cartman's favourite line for when dealing with a gdp is question: "how do you know a gdp is lying" answer: "her lips are moving". ie just can't believe anything they say.

background:

i like to give most girls the benefit of the doubt. i like to have mini relationships with them, in that they can come over a couple of days a week, maybe get the odd perfume as a gift, taken out to nice restaurants etc but no cash. i am picky with the girls i like to have these mini relationships with. they generally must be new to the industry so they are not too hard core and generally be doing something with their lives. students that work at prives with no kids are the best for this. preferably that don't live at home. i really screen the hell out of them because i really don't want hassles where i live. i have actually have never had anything stolen from me in 8 years of visiting / living in brazil. so i guess screening is the best prevention.

the story:

4 months ago i saw a relatively new girl at a well known prive often mentioned here. i saw her a few times at the prive, then she invited herself over to my place a couple of times but i just wasn't in to it. she still would call me up from time to time and tell me how much she was into me (see first sentence above) and very occasionally we would see each other. i was seeing some other girl from another prive, so didn't want to juggle too much. any guy that can juggle more than 2 girls at the same time i tip my hat off to you, i find it way too time consuming and stressful. so anyway, the girl i was seeing finally realised that she was in a dead end relationship with me and bailed. didn't bother me because it was getting really hard to fake that i was still into her. so i go and see this chic at the prive, haven't seen her for about 6 weeks. she was a 7 1/2 i guess, but in the last 6 weeks has learned how to really groom herself and has started to go to the gym and has firmed / bulked up. short of the story she is now a strong 8 1/2! really stunning now. my interest level goes up significantly. she tells me how much she is still into me and we set a date during the week. she comes over, everything is cool etc, no cash passes hands.

now at this prive i know most of the girls stories, most have boyfriends, the boyfriends don't know that they work there. they love to gossip and inadvertantly tell me each others secrets. if their boyfriends find out they tell their boyfriends they will quit, although they may quit for a week or 2, they usually return. they tend to learn to lie to survive. so through the grape vine i find out the girl that has just come over has a new boyfriend of about 6 weeks. this i find amusing because she has been calling me at least once a week to chat and make plans to hook up, always telling me of course how much she is in to me. so i think she is not so much into him. i think i can become number 1 and he will settle into the number 2 role. the number 2 role sucks btw! they cancel on you all the time, you only get to see them for quickies every now and again, while number 1 gets the 2 or 3 night sleep overs per week, first scheduling etc.

so we make plans again to see each other around lunch time at my place. i know she is in the area around this time but she doesn't come over until about 6pm. i get to thinking there is a reason for this and i gently tell her that i know she has a new boyfriend and just gently prod out what the situation is. she swears to me that she had a boyfriend, but they broke up 2 weeks ago and that she doesn't like him anymore and in fact he is causing some issues for her. in short she says she wants to be with me etc. being a the overly analytical person that i am, i go over all the facts in my head and there are a couple of issues that don't add up. i don't say anything. i believe in the "give them enough rope" and they will hang themselves theory. usually ex boyfriends in brazil linger. for a long time. the girls never completely let go until they have another better prospect well hooked up.

so we make plans to hook up again on the weekend, these plans don't work out, she gives some bullshit excuse. i gently do some digging, some more analytical work and come to the conclusion that there is a 90% chance she is still with the ex / current boyfriend. this concerns me in that it looks like i am being put into the number 2 role and boyfriend is number 1. as i said above, number 2 sux!

when we finally hook up i basically say, look i have been around the block a few times, i know you still are seeing your boyfriend and that's cool. just don't lie to me, i m happy just seeing you occasionally and see what works out with your boyfriend but just don't lie to me. i tell her how i know she is still with him, it is very very hard to deny proof like this, but she sticks to her lies (i have 100% proof she is still seeing him but guard this at this time). at this point i have basically decided she is not trustworthy enough to come over anymore so i just play it cool, shoot my load in her mouth and make my way home. she sends me a text msg saying how concerned she is that i think that she is lying and that really she is telling the truth. i just couldn't take it anymore, i send her the last little bit of proof i had been guarding via text. it was the knock out blow. 100% proof she had been caught in her lie. no reply to the text, nothing and this was 3 days ago. i won't send her another message but am thinking will get something from her in a week or so, will be interesting to see what she says."to be continued"

Bubba Boy

09-05-11, 06:01

Nice to finally meet you Sir, anytime you are in town let me know.

Cheers BB

Euro100

09-05-11, 15:14

Euro100

09-05-11, 15:44

i had begun to feel sick the evening before, and when i woke up on sunday i felt really bad. i went for lunch at cervantes (in copa, near the tunnel to rio sul shopping) , had my customary filet mignon sandwich with cheese and pineapple. temporarily this made me feel better, and i began heading for terma l'uomo. before i got there, though, i started to feel really week and dizzy. clearly i had a fever and the early stages of a bronchitis. (happens to many of us while our immune system has to adjust to the local mix of bacteria and viruses.) so i did the only reasonable thing that one can do in this situation: i went to a drogeria, got myself 800 mg of ibuprofen for heavy-duty medication and soldered on bravely. at 4 pm i took the familiar escalator up to l'uomo. on that escalator i also ran into my new best friend, a gentlemen who i had met the evening before at mc. i had told him about our board, and he decided to join. i forgot what handle he told me he was creating; so let's just call him k, and we were each other's wingman for the day. he is a great guy, and having a male buddy at a terma adds greatly to the experience. from the stories he shared with me, he will be a great addition to the board.

l'uomo has been criticized a lot recently, but today it was like the l'uomo of old. lots ( 25) of good looking girls, who were not bored at all, because there were a lot of guys (15-20) around. perfect ratio, and the place was alive. after a nice hot shower, and with my medication kicking in, i felt great with the familiar tingle of anticipation. k and i made our choices pretty quickly, and we started to settle in into the familiar kissing, groping, drinking routine. his choice was elli, a really fun girl, who is a slight bit heavier than average. she has a great smile and is fun to be around. i might give her a spin next time. for tonight i had selected agatha, and she was perfect. a little mulatta spinner with flawless skin and teeth, who likes to dance samba and is just a great person to be around. at their best, the top terma girls can make you feel like they are the best girlfriend you could possibly have. serviço completo! agatha rose to that rank. agata's friend [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) hung out with us off and on. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) looks great, her body is more toned than last year. (she remembered our session.) there was also the remarkably pretty blonde little spinner angel, who hung out with us. i would also do her in a heartbeat, too. her english is excellent. her day job is owning a hair salon, where some of the other girls get their hair done. and then she moonlights at l'uomo. i love this city!

i have had several really good and even excellent sessions on this trip, but the one with agatha beat all of them by a wide margin. it's the kind of session that makes your heart ache when you have to leave. it was a good thing that i had only 4 hours at l'uomo before i had to catch a flight. now i have 4 days to cool off before i return to rio. otherwise it might have gotten a lot more serious. prives are much better for just sex, and 4x4 is the best terma for it rowdy atmosphere and strip shows. but sometime i like to get a little more out of my encounters and get so close to the flame that it starts to burn a bit. then l'uomo is still my number 1 choice.

Euro100

09-05-11, 15:46

On Saturday the centro places are closed; so our ground zero shifts to Tijuca on that day. After some souvenir shopping, we were on our way by 3:30 in the afternoon. Tijuca is actually a beautiful middle-class part of Rio with nice little suco bars and corner bakeries. It is also near Maracana. We first hit Tigresas, then Anne Massagem, and finally Massagem Tijuca. We took the car, but one can do at least the first two stops very safely by using the Metro and getting off at the Saens Pena station. Exit the metro and take Rua General Roca. At that corner is Galeta Formula II, where you can grab a quick pastrie and a suco. They press their sugar cane juice freshly. Highly recommended! About 500 m of hoofing up Rua General Roca gets you first to number 340 on the left side of the street (Tigresas) , and just a bit further up to number 263 (Anne) on the right side. Each of these places set you back 60R for 40 minutes and 80 or 90 for the hour. No entrance fee, no drinks to buy. Very economic!

Tigresas

http://www.tigresastijucanas.com

Finding the entrance is not for the faint-hearted, because you have to get inside a car service station / parking garage and walk up a small set of stairs to get to number 14 on the first floor. My wingman swears by their quality, but I am not able to say either way. As with all privates, you either reserve a girl ahead of time (if you are a regular) , or you take your chances with how busy it is right then. Well, no luck for us. They only had two girls available, and since my wingman knew that one of them was no good, we moved on. But still, it's a place worth checking while you are in the neighborhood.

Anne Massagem

http://www.annemassagens.com.br/home.html

Jackpot! Best prive of this trip, perhaps the best that I know. The entrance is from the street, next to yet another corner bakery. You walk up halfway to a metal gate, and after ringing the bell they buzz you in. The madam was wearing a white lab coat, and pretty much all of the girls were wearing some variant of white bikinis. Made it look very 'clinica'. The rooms even have real massage tables. Their rooms are better than any terma's basic room, with nice big beds with CLEAN sheets, with air conditioning, and with a shower. They also take privacy real serious here, making sure that different male customers don't see each other. I had some time to kill while waiting for my wingman to finish the deed; so I waited on their sofa in the reception. When another guy was buzzed in, they actually put a screen in front of me so that we could not see each other. Nice attention to detail.

The lineup consisted of about 7 or 8 girls, and I picked Michelle, who is kinda petite and has a very pretty face. Just my luck: this was Michelle's first day on the job. She was nervous as hell. And she was so inexperienced that I have to go back to my teenage years to find another example like her. Somebody must have told her what basics to cover, and she checked off one after the other: Make man lay on his back, rub breasts over his chest, lick ball, suck dick, sit one his face and let him eat pussy. All of that took less than a minute. About as erotic as watching a debate on CSPAN! OK, this was not going to be easy. I tried her to get to relax, but I never succeeded. She continued to apologize and, just like a really bad ballroom dancer, never found any rhythm. I gamely finished my 40 minutes and forced out a shot on goal. But still, she is a very sweet girl, and she will acquire the basic skills and learn to relax. My wingman wants to hit her next Saturday, and I bet that she will already be a lot better by then.

Massagem Tijuca

http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/

I reported on this place before, for example here:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1118724#post1118724

This time I picked Bruna, who is perhaps a bit heavier than my usual sweet spot. But she somehow oozed sex to me during intros; so I decided to have a go with her. Plus, here and there it is good exercise to punch above one's weight, as the boxers say. My wingman recommended Amber instead, which both of us had picked during our first visit last year. She was not in the original lineup, but when we saw her I already had closed the Bruna deal, and I felt like I was a swine to back out and switch at that time. Man, am I glad I stuck with Bruna. Sometimes those bigger girls want to have big fun, and this was such an occasion. Terrifically enjoyable session of 40 minutes of raw horny-as-hell sex. Talk about rhythm: with her I felt like we had been lambada partners for a decade. She came twice, and the second time I felt it building up in her at least a couple of minutes before it happened. This was enough to take me along with her. Most girls end with the question if everything was ok, but when she asked me in the end, she had the really proud smile on her face. 'How do you like them apples, honey? ' She was really proud of the product she had just delivered. Actually, so was I.

Off to dinner we went. Temperarte is a terrific kilo place, located on Rua Boivar. 42B. It's almost at Av. N. S. Copacabana, across from the last remaining Cineplex in Copa. They also have an all-you–can-eat deal for R25.

www.temperarte.com.br

Then we hit Monte Carlo. We entered at 9, had a great time, and left at 1:30 am. I did not session, but the entrance (80R) and drinks still set me back R150. Expensive! Earlier in the day I had two 40-minutes session and a great dinner, all for less than what I left at Monte Carlo. Girl lineup was excellent, though, I have to admit. And there was a great party atmosphere. Unfortunately, by the time we made up our mind to take a girl to the room, the pickings were really slim. Note to self: get started locking up a girl at 10 or so. Next time.

We then made one more run to Masaico. Tonight the entrance was only R10 and included one beer. But the atmosphere was not as great as the night before. We left without doing the deed, and I was in bed at 3 am. All in all not a bad day. Travelerb69 would not be able to join me on the next day, and we bid good bye. Until next time! (Traverb69 and I will have overlap in Germany in January; and I am already looking forward to hanging with him again.)

Euro100

09-05-11, 15:48

For some reason I had never been to terma Cancun. This would have to be remedied today. I entered around 6 or so, and really enjoyed the American top-40 music they played at somewhat moderate volume level. The lighting in the boite was slightly too dark in the boite for my taste, though. Also, at 7 a life band played at considerably higher volume, and in the end they switched to funk at high volume. Not good for having conversations. Oh well.

Cancun is a bit more expensive than 4x4. But on Fridays they have a nice deal in that your first R50 in consumption are taken off your bill. By the time my buddy Travelerb69 showed up at it was around 10. I had just decided on my final selection of a girl for the evening, Emily. She is fair-skinned and blond. She was also dancing up a storm to the tunes of the Brazilian rhythms that the band produced. And she smiled a lot and spoke a little English. She also passed the audition with flying colors. Very enjoyable session, too. She gave me her phone number and wanted to come over to my hotel later. She is 27, has no kids; so she could stay out late. But I didn't call. I was in town for too short to start something more serious with her. I am a safado, but even I have my limits. She is simply to nice a girl to lead her on, f*ck her the whole night for free, and then skip town a day later.

Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.

Euro100

09-05-11, 15:50

Here is the newest addition of the continuing saga of Euro100 in the Rio sex candy store.

My regular Rio-mongering buddy Travelerb69 was also in town, and we agreed to hunt together again. The plan was to kick it off by meeting at 4x4 at 3:30 in the afternoon. I walked the few blocks from my hotel to the terma, but had overestimated the time it would take to do so. Therefore I was showered, shaved, and robed in the terma at 3:15. I sat down next to the stripper stage. Fany spotted me right away. At about 3:17 she was on the stage and dancing for me. When her top came off, I knew there was no escape for me. And so did she, of course. She just had this amused grin on her face and her eyes locked into mine during the whole strip. The predator (her) was playing with the prey (me). The strip lasted one song only, and at 3:20 Fany was on my lap and her tongue halfway down my throat. The only question remaining was now if I could postpone heading to the room until after my wingman would arrive. Nope! At 3:40 there was still no sing of my buddy and Fany had me horny as hell.

In my book the hour at 4x4 is still the best deal in the upscale terma landscape. And one hour with Fany is heaven. But this time she was in a special mood. With me she likes to start the session in cowgirl with dry-humping. This time she grabbed my index finger while doing this, put lube on it, and made me insert the finger into her culo. After about 35 minutes I already had popped twice, but Fany was still not done with me. I tried to retreat to the shower and rinse off. She let me, but when I came out and tried to dry off, she dragged me onto the bed and sucked the living daylights out of little euro. As great as this is, you have to remember that this was my first session after merging from sex prison, and that I was not properly 'warmed up'. Somebody recently posted that this is like getting calluses on your hands, if you try to hit a lot of golf balls after not touching your clubs for a long time. Well this was like major abuse of the clubs, resulting in shaft bending (literally, actually, as couple of times) , and hitting balls until the groves on the clubface wear out. I knew already that there was no way that I could have another session that night.

Back in the boite I spent some more time with Fany. This afterglow stuff is one of the things I really really love about the terma experience. Then my buddy showed up, and the night was saved. (He had showed up at 3:45, figured correctly where I might be, and had then also taken a session.)

We left 4x4 around 9, had dinner. Then we got a text from Bubba Boy, telling us he was heading to 502. We joined him and his buddy there. The other three guys sessioned, but I had to pass. It was 11, and I headed back to the hotel. (Fany had just worn me down.) In passing I might mention that 502 has now raised its prices almost to 4x4 levels. The 1-hour session now is R190, which is too steep for this place. I will take 502 off my list for a while.

HungryStud101

09-05-11, 16:06

Cartman's favourite line for when dealing with a GDP is Question: "how do you know a GDP is lying" Answer: "her lips are moving". IE just can't believe anything they say.

Background:

I like to give most girls the benefit of the doubt. I like to have mini relationships with them, in that they can come over a couple of days a week, maybe get the odd perfume as a gift, taken out to nice restaurants etc but no cash. I am picky with the girls I like to have these mini relationships with. They generally must be new to the industry so they are not too hard core and generally be doing something with their lives. Students that work at prives with no kids are the best for this. Preferably that don't live at home. I really screen the hell out of them because I really don't want hassles where I live. I have actually have never had anything stolen from me in 8 years of visiting / living in Brazil. So I guess screening is the best prevention.

The Story:

I won't send her another message but am thinking will get something from her in a week or so, will be interesting to see what she says."to be continued"Very interested in this story BB. I have something going on with an ex-Termas girl and I am trying to get into this Puta's head and figure her out. She says she is not working anymore and has a "normal" job where she works long hours and makes little money. I have asked if she has a namarodo and how can someone so beautiful be single. She dodges the questions. I am cool with this due to my personal situation (that I have not owned up to either) but I just want to hae some laughs and have a night of great sex and suedo romance for less $$$. I do not mind 2nd fiddle as long as I get to play!

On another note, when it comes to GDP's and theft.

I met two Americano Mongers that are ex-pats at the Balconi. They go there several times a week and often take hme GDPs. They are friends with the owner of the Balconi (they pointed out his GF. Nt very attractive). Anyway, They have never experienced any serious theft. They said "Oh yeah, after we get to know them little things end up missing. More like borrowing. But never anything serious." Sounded like there had been upteen years worth of hobbying. Maybe it is the fact that they ae not touristas.

Member #3439

09-05-11, 21:30

Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.Obrigado! Nice reports. Please compile to RODs when you wrap up!

Praca Bandeira bus stop, or Francisco Eugenio on the north side? By subway you mean Sao Cristavao station? I think most of us are coming in from the south, the way shown on Sperto's treasure map.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512

What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?
When you make a comparison to VM, I start thinking about covered BJs and lackadaisical fucks..rsrs

Phunluv

09-05-11, 21:50

When we finally hook up I basically say, look I have been around the block a few times, I know you still are seeing your boyfriend and that's cool. Just don't lie to me, I m happy just seeing you occasionally and see what works out with your boyfriend but just don't lie to me. I tell her how I know she is still with him, it is very very hard to deny proof like this, but she sticks to her lies (I have 100% proof she is still seeing him but guard this at this time). At this point I have basically decided she is not trustworthy enough to come over anymore so I just play it cool, shoot my load in her mouth and make my way home. She sends me a text msg saying how concerned she is that I think that she is lying and that really she is telling the truth. I just couldn't take it anymore, I send her the last little bit of proof I had been guarding via text. It was the knock out blow. 100% proof she had been caught in her lie. No reply to the text, nothing and this was 3 days ago. I won't send her another message but am thinking will get something from her in a week or so, will be interesting to see what she says."to be continued"Think you handled this just about right but maybe you should have held on to your winning hand a little longer. Women in general are pretty irrational about these things, and then when you add brazilian women and in particular brazilian gdps, well now you've entered the twilight zone, LOL! Your victory over her becomes a pointless one because she probably feels you humiliated her or manipulated her on purpose. Not to mention she now knows you have ways of spying / keeping tabs on her while she may not, yet, have that kind of leverage on you. That either freaked her out or pissed her off or both.

When you combine your status as foreigner / ex-pat / non-brazilian (not sure about your status but that's my guess) with the fact you met her in a p4p venue (thus making you a foreign puteiro, the "worst of the worst") she probably feels she doesn't have to give you much loyalty, respect, honesty. I wouldn't waste a lot of energy fighting these perceptions. It is what it is, just go with the flow and enjoy what you can with these chicas.

I have more of a libertine kind of philosophy so these kinds of issues are not such a big deal to me (loyalty and honesty from a part-time, full-time, or ex-hooker? I mean, come on, LOL!). Let them have their lies, let them even think they're getting the better part of the deal. I usually just tell these girls I believe in "liberdade e felicidade para voce e tambem para mim" and if they have a problem with that "buscar outro homem." The problem here is the natural jealousy and possessiveness of these chicas, that's why I don't demand / require the full honesty thing anymore, the chicas can't handle that (very few women can actually, whether they're p4p or civvies).

So I used to believe (like you) in the need for more honesty but my motto now is more like "liberdade e privacidade." Your average brazilian gdp has an almost pathological need for distrust, jealousy, deception, et al, in their lives; or maybe it's just a cultural thing of the estrangeiro respecting the gdp's "privacy". Or it could be a woman thing: to cede that much honesty and trust to a man, especially if he's a foreign monger, is seen as foolish, dangerous, putting her in the weaker position, etc. I think it's sexist outdated nonsense but there's probably still a bit of a double-standard about a man's fidelity / honesty valued less than a woman's (thus, you requiring more honesty from her would seem an unfair deal to her, you're giving up less than she is; like I said, sexist but still very common thinking).

Whatever it is, I would just back off and let her have her thing with her bf (a local who shares language / culture / upbringing brings things to the table we can't, like hanging out with him and not standing out like a sore thumb) as long as she doesn't mistreat you on days you spend together (I'd say being more than one hour late means time to start scooping out other fish in the barrel).

If I were you, if there's an event that interests you, I'd just call her up in a week or two and ask her if she wants to go. If she mentions anything just say no hard feelings, e nada. Give the impression that this was something you didn't even really care all that much about, as long as you can pop in her mouth in the post-date aftermath, heh, heh.

Euro100

09-05-11, 23:55

Obrigado! Nice reports. Please compile to RODs when you wrap up!

Praca Bandeira bus stop, or Francisco Eugenio on the north side? By subway you mean Sao Cristavao station? I think most of us are coming in from the south, the way shown on Sperto's treasure map.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512

What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?

When you make a comparison to VM, I start thinking about covered BJs and lackadaisical fucks. RsrsYes, coming from the south, from the Praca Bandeira bus stop or the metro. That's the only way to walk past the biker bar toward VM that I know of. With my apologies to Sperto, I made a copy of his map and put in the location of Masaico.

157525

5 years ago 502 was great. The service was up to 4x4 levels, but the girls were just a notch below 4x4. The whole place has basically not changed a bit since then. The only different to now is price. Back then I got a really great 40-minute session for R70, if I remember correctly. And now they are more than twice as expensive, but giving you still the very same thing.

The BJ from Gabi was BB, and the service very good. Culo was on the menu, but I did not take her up on it. (I am not into anal; the only exception I made on this trip was for Fani, well, because she demanded it.) Forget my VM reference and check it out yourself.

Aibolit

09-06-11, 04:03

Euro100

09-06-11, 04:30

What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?I looked for a while, because I wanted to remind myself how 502 was. It took some time, but here is an old post of mine that describes the place: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3004-2006-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=502251#post502251

Eric Cartman

09-06-11, 04:30

Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.Sorry, you say "MV" and then "VM." Is Mosaico (which is actually also the name of Globo's internet fund, fun times) near MV (30) or are you saying it is near Villa Mimosa (VM)? And if it's the latter, you really felt OK heading out there at 1 in the morning? I am just going to be really surprised if there is hot Terma talent hanging out "after hours" at this type of place. Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

Anyway, any more details would be appreciated. Is it covered on gpguia?

-Cartman

Eric Cartman

09-06-11, 04:35

Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Rio (and Sao Paulo) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 whyear old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which 5 termas and / or clinica / massage provides the biggers and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that stunners can be found (English speaking non-pros, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Aibolit1. You will see a lot of big bundas, regardless. I'd suggest 4x4 for sheer quantity: some you like mixed in with a lot of big asses you don't. Or L'Uomo in Copacabana. Or try the websites of some of the privates (per Sperto's list) to see if any bodytypes catch your eye.

2. Shrug I'd get to 4x4 before 5pm for the free entrada if you have time. Or privates at 11am. Or higher end T's any time after 7 (or before 7 to catch the free entrada at L'Uomo I think).

3. Stunners is a matter of taste. On a short-trip you won't find English speaking non-pros lmao. Though I suppose you could throw yourself into a Friday night in Lapa and talk up strangers. Without speaking Portuguese you are really limiting your options. The girls in Zona Sul T's will have the most chance of speaking English, you may find a few in Centro.

Now don't be a tool and you can thank us by writing up your experiences in as much detail as you can muster.

Euro100

09-06-11, 04:57

Sorry, you say "MV" and then "VM." Is Mosaico (which is actually also the name of Globo's internet fund, fun times) near MV (30) or are you saying it is near Villa Mimosa (VM)? And if it's the latter, you really felt OK heading out there at 1 in the morning? I am just going to be really surprised if there is hot Terma talent hanging out "after hours" at this type of place. Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

Anyway, any more details would be appreciated. Is it covered on gpguia?

-CartmanYes, VM. Sorry. Below I also posted a map with the exact location of this place.

Safety: I feel completely safe in that area at 1 am, safer than at the beach in Copacabana. There are tons of people on the street there at that time, and also at 3 am. Many teenagers, who just want to party, too. The biker bar is also just a place where regular people hang out. Nothing scary. Even inside VM I do not sense any danger. There is even some level of police presence. Of course one has to follow certain precautions to make oneself not an easy target, as almost anywhere. I have walked to VM from the bus stop about three times, and we have taken the car there another three times. Never an incident.

More details on Mosaico: There is a bouncer sitting on a bar stool outside and he hands you either a plastic card (Friday) or a score sheet (Saturday) to keep tabs of your tab. You enter through the glass door under the awning, and to your right is the (only) bar. It is also the only fairly well lit location in the whole joint. So if you want to get a look at your girl before committing, I suggest you take her to the bar and buy her a drink. Also on the right and next to the bar is a wall with a long vinyl-covered beach with three small tables; good for hanging out at the least possible sound level. To your left as you enter you see a flight of stair. The cabinas are up there. Under the stairs you cross into the main boite. Bring ear plugs! The boite is about 10 m by 10 m in size and has a stripper stage with pole on the far side. I think there are two wide steps that lead from the foyer into the boite, and lost of people seem to always stand right there. The boite has seat all along the wall, except for the right corner, where the DJ booth is. The lights consist of a green laser hitting a mirror ball and a few black-lights. In other words, it is very dark in the boite. If you do not go left into the boite, but head straight on from the foyer, you pass a both with bullet-proof glass, where you settle your tab in the end, and where you pay for the girl and room, and finally the bathroom.

I did too little exploring upstairs to know how many room they have. My 40-minute room had a wide bed (not like L'uomo!) with real sheets, which get changed between sessions. Unfortunately, no dimmer. So we had the choice of either humping in total pitch-black darkness, or having the proceedings illuminated by a single while 60W bulb. However, we passed also by a nicer room with a shower, which is used for the 60 minute sessions. My guess is that they have somewhere between 5 and 10 rooms avaiable.

On Friday there were at least 15 girls there; three or four of them were quite doable for me, and perhaps I should not have jumped so quickly on Gabi. Keep in mind that is very dark in the boite; so I did not even get a good look at half of the girls. Also, the rooms were in short supply on Friday night, and Gaby and I had to wait for about 30 minutes. She insisted to grind her bunda into me during that time right under one of the ceiling mounted loudspeakers. I probably got some hearing loss as a result.

Is it covered on gpguia? I really don't know, because I have never even been to that forum. My Portuguese is not worth shit, and it would be a complete waste of my time to try.

Member #3439

09-06-11, 05:04

Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

-CartmanFWIW, I've noticed that many girls tend to arrive at Club Florida around 1 am. These girls are apparently coming there from the Centro termas. They normally look better than the Club Florida regular girls that you'll find earlier in the night.

Euro100

09-06-11, 05:18

Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Rio (and Sao Paulo) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 whyear old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which 5 termas and / or clinica / massage provides the biggers and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that stunners can be found (English speaking non-pros, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

AibolitIf you do not speak Portuguese, then perhaps you should restrict yourself to the termas. You will on average have much better luck finding some English-speaking girls in the Copa termas. Assuming that price does not matter, then I would suggest (in that order) : Centaurus, Monte Carlo, L'uomo (all in Zona Sul) .4x4, and finally Cancun (both in Centro). Most of them are good to visit from around 4 pm and stay open until midnight or 1 am. They can get very busy already starting at 5 or 6 pm. (BTW, the free early entrance deal at L'uomo does no longer exist! We asked.) The centro termas are closed on the weekend, and on Sunday your only option is L'uomo. Rooms: ummm, if price is no consideration, then always go for the super suite. I would, however, recommend against this. After all, you are not there to admire the furniture. Generally. 1 hour sessions are preferable to 40 minute sessions, and what you select in terms of length will determine what room you get. The room is the last thing you need to worry about.

Non-pros: perhaps the higher-class bars in Ipanema, or the university. But in my opinion you are wasting precious time trying to go that route. Pros are pros for a reason, just like a golf pro is better at gold than the rest of us.

Sperto

09-06-11, 06:33

Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.
Nice reports, Euro.

Mosaico opened a few years ago. It was a gringo (german guy) that opened the place (I don't know if he still is the owner). A kind of upscale VM-casa. He stirred up quite some angry emotions in Vila Mimosa when he opened his place. The reasons were several; he was a gringo, he opened the casa without permission from the Associação da Vila Mimosa, the casa was more "sofisticated" than the other VM-casas and he charged higher prices than other casas in VM. I boycotted the place as I considered it just as a overcharging VM-casa.

I had several girls in VM that used to work at Mosaico. They all left and went back to the ordinary VM-casas because of the lack of customers at Mosaico.

After reading Euro's report I might give Mosaico a try.

Bubba Boy

09-06-11, 13:09

Think you handled this just about right but maybe you should have held on to your winning hand a little longer. Women in general are pretty irrational about these things, and then when you add brazilian women and in particular brazilian gdps, well now you've entered the twilight zone, LOL! Your victory over her becomes a pointless one because she probably feels you humiliated her or manipulated her on purpose. Not to mention she now knows you have ways of spying / keeping tabs on her while she may not, yet, have that kind of leverage on you. That either freaked her out or pissed her off or both.

When you combine your status as foreigner / ex-pat / non-brazilian (not sure about your status but that's my guess) with the fact you met her in a p4p venue (thus making you a foreign puteiro, the "worst of the worst") she probably feels she doesn't have to give you much loyalty, respect, honesty. I wouldn't waste a lot of energy fighting these perceptions. It is what it is, just go with the flow and enjoy what you can with these chicas.

I have more of a libertine kind of philosophy so these kinds of issues are not such a big deal to me (loyalty and honesty from a part-time, full-time, or ex-hooker? I mean, come on, LOL!). Let them have their lies, let them even think they're getting the better part of the deal. I usually just tell these girls I believe in "liberdade e felicidade para voce e tambem para mim" and if they have a problem with that "buscar outro homem." The problem here is the natural jealousy and possessiveness of these chicas, that's why I don't demand / require the full honesty thing anymore, the chicas can't handle that (very few women can actually, whether they're p4p or civvies).

So I used to believe (like you) in the need for more honesty but my motto now is more like "liberdade e privacidade." Your average brazilian gdp has an almost pathological need for distrust, jealousy, deception, et al, in their lives; or maybe it's just a cultural thing of the estrangeiro respecting the gdp's "privacy". Or it could be a woman thing: to cede that much honesty and trust to a man, especially if he's a foreign monger, is seen as foolish, dangerous, putting her in the weaker position, etc. I think it's sexist outdated nonsense but there's probably still a bit of a double-standard about a man's fidelity / honesty valued less than a woman's (thus, you requiring more honesty from her would seem an unfair deal to her, you're giving up less than she is; like I said, sexist but still very common thinking).

Whatever it is, I would just back off and let her have her thing with her bf (a local who shares language / culture / upbringing brings things to the table we can't, like hanging out with him and not standing out like a sore thumb) as long as she doesn't mistreat you on days you spend together (I'd say being more than one hour late means time to start scooping out other fish in the barrel).

If I were you, if there's an event that interests you, I'd just call her up in a week or two and ask her if she wants to go. If she mentions anything just say no hard feelings, e nada. Give the impression that this was something you didn't even really care all that much about, as long as you can pop in her mouth in the post-date aftermath, heh, heh.I have been around a ton of GDP's, surprisingly they don't all lie. Sure, they may bang other guys discretely etc, I bang other girls discretely so I don't have a huge problem with this. I never say that I am only with them, I avoid any of their questions in this regard rather than lie. I have had a few relationships with GDP's which have been pretty cool. Once I see a GDP just constantly lying, it is time to cut them free. They tend to just cause headache after headache. The particular GDP in my "musing", I won't see anymore, maybe bang her in the prive in that she works if there is nothing else there, but I will be very wary about her coming over anymore. There are tons of girls available to call over rather than a known trouble maker. Basically I have cut her out, the last little dig was childish on my part, but every now and again it is worthwhile to call them out on their crap. I mentioned that it will be interesting to see what she will say to me next time our paths cross, but only from a interest point of view. Don't really care what she says really.

Exec Talent

09-06-11, 14:11

Non-pros: perhaps the higher-class bars in Ipanema, or the university. But in my opinion you are wasting precious time trying to go that route. Pros are pros for a reason, just like a golf pro is better at gold than the rest of us.Non-pros require effort, no doubt, that is why they are non-pros. However, in terms of performance, they often equal or even eclipse the pros. Just because a woman doesn't charge for sex doesn't mean she can't rock your world. The biggest difference I see is that she, unlike a pro, also expects you to rock hers. She also has little or any incentive to fake it when you don't. It amazes me that guys who have sucked at pleasing women all their lives suddenly think they are gifted with Brasileras.

Euro100

09-06-11, 14:58

Non-pros require effort, no doubt, that is why they are non-pros. However, in terms of performance, they often equal or even eclipse the pros. Just because a woman doesn't charge for sex doesn't mean she can't rock your world. The biggest difference I see is that she, unlike a pro, also expects you to rock hers. She also has little or any incentive to fake it when you don't. It amazes me that guys who have sucked at pleasing women all their lives suddenly think they are gifted with Brasileras.What you and I are saying is not so different; I just tried to be more discreet. Pros give you the illusion that you can score almost effortlessly, whereas amateurs don't. If you come to Brazil for sex and only stay for a short time, then stick with the pros. Brazilian women in general are not easy prey and generally do not fall for the first gringo they see.

Almotu

09-06-11, 15:26

Massagem Tijuca

http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/

I reported on this place before, for example here:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1118724#post1118724

This time I picked Bruna, who is perhaps a bit heavier than my usual sweet spot. But she somehow oozed sex to me during intros; so I decided to have a go with her. Plus, here and there it is good exercise to punch above one's weight, as the boxers say. My wingman recommended Amber instead, which both of us had picked during our first visit last year. She was not in the original lineup, but when we saw her I already had closed the Bruna deal, and I felt like I was a swine to back out and switch at that time. Man, am I glad I stuck with Bruna. Sometimes those bigger girls want to have big fun, and this was such an occasion. Terrifically enjoyable session of 40 minutes of raw horny-as-hell sex. Talk about rhythm: with her I felt like we had been lambada partners for a decade. She came twice, and the second time I felt it building up in her at least a couple of minutes before it happened. This was enough to take me along with her. Most girls end with the question if everything was ok, but when she asked me in the end, she had the really proud smile on her face. 'How do you like them apples, honey? ' She was really proud of the product she had just delivered. Actually, so was I.Hey Euro, the url is actually http://www.massagenstijuca.com.br.

What is the street address to this place?

Sperto

09-06-11, 16:48

Hey Euro, the url is actually http://www.massagenstijuca.com.br.
I think it's none of those two mentioned.
Try:
http://www.massagemtijuca.com

Almotu

09-06-11, 16:56

Sperto: Mine and yours both work. Unfortunately, the punctuation does not help my link. I can't edit my post anymore but leave out the period at the end of my link.

Cheers, I have been using your Rio Branco list from April. It is a great resource along with Bubba's guide. Seems like tomorrow is a huge holiday here so I am trying to find my options right now.

HungryStud101

09-06-11, 22:59

Gentlemen,

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls.I hear that the minimum age to work in the Termas is 19 or 20 (please correct me if I am worng). If you like real young, slim, and fresh GDP's you may want to hang out a balcony. I see seemingly 18 year olds GDP's there all the time. You will have to I. D. To make sure they are of age. I hear that fake I. D. S are easy to come by in Rio so be careful. I finally had the guts to take one back t my hotel last time. This was about the most embarassing things I have done in a long time but I had a field day in the room with her. It was worth the red face test. Seems everytime I go there there are a couple of cutie pie 18 anos GDP's at Balconi.

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?This is what I would do if I were you M-F 4x4; Sat Monte Carlo, Sunday L'uomo. Evyerynight after the Termas closes, if you can't get anyone to come home with you, I would head over to Balcony for ambience. I just lve a place where the woman outnumber the menn and 95% of these woman are hookers in all shapes and sizes. Then stroll up Atlantica avenue and check out the SW and the freak show. God I love it there!

Aibolit[/QUOTE]

Bravo

09-06-11, 22:59

I guess a clear indication that brasil is doing well financialy is that the GDPs are asking for more and more expensive gifts. I used to be asked to bring down VS Lotion or a certain perfume. Today, I had a girl ask me to bring her a LOUIS VUITON purse! Because supposedly "It is much cheaper to buy them in America than it would be to buy in brasil". I told her that "LV is fucking expensive in every country!" (and this is from a girl I only fucked once, like 3 years ago!!)

Euro100

09-06-11, 23:21

Try:http://www.massagemtijuca.comYes, that's what I was aiming for. I somehow automatically added .br when I typed the report. Sloppy work; I vow to improve :-)

As Almotu points out, his URL works, too. However, it is not exactly the same website. They are almost identical, but for the listing of Carla. Strange.

Euro100

09-06-11, 23:30

Then stroll up Atlantica avenue and check out the SW and the freak show.Please be careful! While you watch the "freak show", there are probably other pairs of eyes checking you out as a potential robbery target. I have seen cars being broken in rather brazenly right in front of the Copacabana Palace. Several of my friends have been robbed right on Ave. Atlantica, and I have been held up at knife point there as well. I have walked all over Rio (Leblon, Ipanema, Copa, Leme, Centro, Tijuca, even the area around VM) after dark, and the only time I had problems was on the main drag at Copa. Remember, the thieves go to where the easy money is, and the easy money is with careless tourists, and they tend to be at the Copa.

Mr Enternational

09-07-11, 00:31

I hear that the minimum age to work in the Termas is 19 or 20 (please correct me if I am worng). If you like real young, slim, and fresh GDP's you may want to hang out a balcony. I see seemingly 18 year olds GDP's there all the time. You will have to I. D. To make sure they are of age. Seems everytime I go there there are a couple of cutie pie 18 anos GDP's at Balconi.Ahhh. The difference 1 year makes!

HungryStud101

09-07-11, 03:06

Ahhh. The difference 1 year makes!I was told that there is a minimum age requirement to work in a termas which is greater than 18. Does anyone know what the minimum age required to work in a Termas is? Is it 19? 20? 21? Or am I mistaken? In my limited experience, It seems that everytime I go down to Balcony early a sweet little newbie shows up that is newer and fresher than any of the very fine termas girls I have been with, and cute as a button. Not necessarily better but different. It seems like there is a slot where a GDP is old enough to hang out at balconi but too young to work in a Termas. Is there a minimum age requirement to work in a Termas? Is it self imposed? Am I all wet?

Euro100

09-07-11, 03:25

I was told that there is a minimum age requirement to work in a termas which is greater than 18. Does anyone know what the minimum age required to work in a Termas is? Is it 19? 20? 21? Or am I mistaken? In my limited experience, It seems that everytime I go down to Balcony early a sweet little newbie shows up that is newer and fresher than any of the very fine termas girls I have been with, and cute as a button. Not necessarily better but different. It seems like there is a slot where a GDP is old enough to hang out at balconi but too young to work in a Termas. Is there a minimum age requirement to work in a Termas? Is it self imposed? Am I all wet?

I cannot possibly see any reason whatsoever to try to go younger than the minimum terma age. There is no way that an 18 year old is "fresher" than a 19 year old. (It's not like they are virgins when they show up at Balcony.) And I believe that was also the point that Mr Enternational was making. It's a really bad idea to try to toe the minimum age line. You are aware of the problem with fake IDs, and yet you still do not shy away from trying out the young ones at Balcony. Did the possibility of a police sting operation ever cross your mind? If they would do that, and you would be caught in it, it would send unbelievable ripples through all parts of your life. Now THAT would give your neighbor something different to talk about than what is the best lawn fertilizer. I know that experiencing the Rio p4p scene can be an incredible rush, but some risks are definitely not worth taking.

Baggio67

09-07-11, 09:08

HungryStud101

09-07-11, 13:56

I cannot possibly see any reason whatsoever to try to go younger than the minimum terma age. There is no way that an 18 year old is "fresher" than a 19 year old. (It's not like they are virgins when they show up at Balcony.) And I believe that was also the point that Mr Enternational was making. It's a really bad idea to try to toe the minimum age line. You are aware of the problem with fake IDs, and yet you still do not shy away from trying out the young ones at Balcony. Did the possibility of a police sting operation ever cross your mind? If they would do that, and you would be caught in it, it would send unbelievable ripples through all parts of your life. Now THAT would give your neighbor something different to talk about than what is the best lawn fertilizer. I know that experiencing the Rio p4p scene can be an incredible rush, but some risks are definitely not worth taking.Ahhh of course this is Rio and you can buy yourself out of any problem. Just as Big Ernie McCraken proclaimed when he won the World Championship of bowling in Reno in the 1996 Documentry "King Pin," and I quote.

"This Means Big Ern can buy his way out of any problem. Big Ern is above the law."

You guys are probably right. I have been pushing the envelope a little lately. It is the fucking rush of this hobby you know.

Bubba Boy

09-07-11, 16:36

bribing the police is not for someone that does not know how to the process works. if you think you can just drop a couple of bucks and be on your way you are mistaken. you will probably just make the situation worse.

simple things like a traffic violation or maybe being caught with no documents, if you know what you are doing and know how to play the game, you may get away with a simple on the spot bribe. if you are not familiar with the way the game is played insist on being taken to the police station and sorting it out there. your chances will be better with these simple matters.

for serious matters, and being caught with an **** girl is considered very serious in brazil, you are in for a world of pain. don't even think you will get away with a small simple bribe and be on your way. you will most likely be taken straight to the station and then have the shit scared out of you by a number of higher ranking police. some of these guys will have more interest in seeing a foreigner charged than accepting a bribe. once you start going through the system the chance of getting off with a bribe will decrease and if you are finally offered a way out the amount you will be asked to pay will be large. think best case scenario $10k, could be as high as $50k. you will also be spending some time in jail while the process gets dealt with, that alone would not be nice.

corrupt high ranking police are professional criminals, they know how to get the maximum payout, they are not interested in a few hundred $r, these guys earn $100k + per year. they are not going to risk that for a small payout.

Jan 156

09-07-11, 22:31

Excellent advice from Bubba.

If anyone thinks the Brasilian police system is straightforward, pop along to a cinema and watch Elite Squad II. Admittedly it's about BOPE and drugs, but it provides what is generally believed to be an exceedingly authentic view of how entrenched and complex police corruption is through the ranks. (Pretty good movie too.)

PatmarBeleza1

09-08-11, 00:41

http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_topics.asp?FID=89

http://www.gpguia.net/viewforum.php?f=89&sid=6eb4d2523ddcd89ce863ef73c325b9ca

http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=74933&sid=20222db317bba828b0684b59ec8edcfd&start=20

From looking at the above brazilian forums (in chrome browser on translate) , it appears:

- the locals are starting to go to Mosaico.

- they confirm the top tier termas and some frees are heading there at midnight.

And from looking at the location on a inet map program (attached, please confirm) :

- it is as proximate to Estacio Metro as the other metro mentioned.

- and proximate (300 meters) from Malaga Motel, a location for 59R per noites (8 PM to 12 noon, next day) , suggesting: check in at Malaga 8 PM for per noite, cab or walk over to Mosaico, and back to Malaga 2 or 4 AM to noon.

Finally:

- all above proximate to metro for the prives (Anne's; Mix; Bel Prazer; Tigresa).

Thanks to all on this excellent board!

(BTW, wonder if the Military Policia ever wander over the 100 meters to mosaico. VM?)

Euro100

09-08-11, 04:32

Yes, that is exactly the right place. Like I said: black awning, black-and-white tiles on the patio in front of the glass door.

Excellent recon work!

Euro

Sperto

09-08-11, 05:40

From looking at the above brazilian forums (in chrome browser on translate) , it appears:
- the locals are starting to go to Mosaico.
- they confirm the top tier termas and some frees are heading there at midnight.
And from looking at the location on a inet map program (attached, please confirm) :
- it is as proximate to Estacio Metro as the other metro mentioned.
- and proximate (300 meters) from Malaga Motel, a location for 59R per noites (8 PM to 12 noon, next day) , suggesting: check in at Malaga 8 PM for per noite, cab or walk over to Mosaico, and back to Malaga 2 or 4 AM to noon.
Finally:
- all above proximate to metro for the prives (Anne's; Mix; Bel Prazer; Tigresa).
Thanks to all on this excellent board!
(BTW, wonder if the Military Policia ever wander over the 100 meters to mosaico. VM?)
Just a few comments to avoid confusions for people who might want to visit Mosaico or Vila Mimosa.
Metro station Estácio is much further away from VM than the São Cristóvão metro station.
Mosaico is at least a 600 metres walk from Mosaico.
PM 100 metres away???

Patmar, Mosaico lies in Vila Mimosa. A 5 minutes walk north from Praça da Bandeira.

PatmarBeleza1

09-08-11, 06:12

It seems substituting prive for agency goes from 120r to 50r

It seems substituting mosaico for 4*4 goes from 220r to 110r.

It seems on days pernoite 16 hours at malaga instead of barao do flamenco goes from 69r to 59r.

By incorporating this into a 14 day trip, for some days, one could manage Dois Bunda boa for 220r a day.

Allows more brlusd to higher end Bunda on other days.

I will do some maps of the distances from metro estacio to mosaico and motel malaga which Brazil bloggers describe as great value. Distance from estacio metro to mosaico is longer but malaga motel gives el cheapo base in 300 meters of mosaico.

PatmarBeleza1

09-08-11, 06:17

Hungrystud is going through classic withdrawals, out of the area of operations. Go easy on the man.

Intervention not required until I love her and I just sent ten grand by western union.

Ahhh of course this is Rio and you can buy yourself out of any problem. Just as Big Ernie McCraken proclaimed when he won the World Championship of bowling in Reno in the 1996 Documentry "King Pin," and I quote.

"This Means Big Ern can buy his way out of any problem. Big Ern is above the law."

You guys are probably right. I have been pushing the envelope a little lately. It is the fucking rush of this hobby you know.

HelpRules

09-08-11, 11:38

Why would you put the money in your suitcase. That is where they will look. Put it in a obscure place like the oven or in between the bed. I mean the very middle where her hands couldn't reach unless you werent on the bed sleeping!

HelpRules

09-08-11, 11:54

One other thing I forgot to mention. Never bring the whole amount you plan to spend in cash! You brought 2500. Big mistake. Bring half in cash and leave the other half in your checking account. Use a credit card for that amount or debit card if you don't have a cc. I always use my card for as much as possible when I go to the termas and restaurants. That really allows me to have less cash on me. If your going to do 7 girls at your apartment then you need 150 x 7 plus cash for small food items and sucos. Thats it. The rest you can use your card at the termas and restaurants. Other tip. Don't GET DRUNK. PERIOD! Have a beer or 2. You can get drunk in the states. Too many bad things happen when your drunk. As you now know.

Sperto

09-08-11, 12:12

Mosaico is at least a 600 metres walk from Mosaico.Sorry, I meant Mosaico is at least a 600 metres walk from Malaga.

Euro100

09-08-11, 13:14

157609

I think all of our scales a are a bit off. So here is a google map capture with VM and Mosaico. Also in this map are the Sao Cristavo metro station in the lower middle left and the bus stops at Praca de Bandeira in the lower right. At the top middle of the map is the military police building that someone mentioned. I also positioned the map that the scale of 100m is in the lower left. Now we can see that the walk from the bus stop to Mosaico is 400 to 500 m already, the walk from Soa Cristavo metro is quite a bit longer, could be up to 1 km. The walk from the other metro station is yet considerably longer, by a factor of 2.

PatmarBeleza1

09-08-11, 16:49

I agree, my estimates were inaccurate. Mosaico to Malaga is 600m walk. 400m on a map (attached) , at least, and the walk from Estacio to Mosaico would be twice as long as from the Sao Cristovao metro.

What I was thinking about is a lodging pattern where you go from Estacio Metro to Malaga, check in for per noite for the 59R rate at 8 or even 7.

Then cab (probable) or walk from Malaga to Mosaico for the 11 PM to 3 AM prime time.

Then cab (probable) /walk back to Malaga.

What is the availability of cabs like at Mosaico at midnight to 3 AM?

Correct me if wrong, but taking the bus or metro from Mosaico (Sperto's VM map) is to get back to lodging in Copa apartment or similar, out of the VM area.

157609

I think all of our scales a are a bit off. So here is a google map capture with VM and Mosaico. Also in this map are the Sao Cristavo metro station in the lower middle left and the bus stops at Praca de Bandeira in the lower right. At the top middle of the map is the military police building that someone mentioned. I also positioned the map that the scale of 100m is in the lower left. Now we can see that the walk from the bus stop to Mosaico is 400 to 500 m already, the walk from Soa Cristavo metro is quite a bit longer, could be up to 1 km. The walk from the other metro station is yet considerably longer, by a factor of 2.

Sperto

09-08-11, 17:05

What is the availability of cabs like at Mosaico at midnight to 3 AM?
Correct me if wrong, but taking the bus or metro from Mosaico (Sperto's VM map) is to get back to lodging in Copa apartment or similar, out of the VM area.
There are always taxis waiting for customers in VM. Some of them might be a rip-off.
Going back to Copa you have the option of metro or bus. Late in the evening I prefer taking the bus (455) from Praça da Bandeira. It goes really quick at night. The metro closes at midnight.

Mr Enternational

09-08-11, 20:47

There are always taxis waiting for customers in VM. Some of them might be a rip-off.

Going back to Copa you have the option of metro or bus. Late in the evening I prefer taking the bus (455) from Praça the Bandeira. It goes really quick at night. The metro closes at midnight.I always take the 455 both ways bringing a TLN back with me on the return trip.

PatmarBeleza1

09-08-11, 21:14

Euro100

09-08-11, 22:12

It appears from the Sperto VM map that the shortest walk is from the 455 bus stop to VM, Mosaico. It appears the walk from 455 is shorter from any of the Metro stops discussed?Yes, this is definitely true, maybe a factor of two shorter than the walk form the metro. But no big deal either way. The metro closing at midnight is a problem, however. So the bus is definitely preferable.

Taxis: some of the yellow taxi guys just do not turn on the meter and then quote you fantasy prices. So you need to be careful right as you get in. If the guys does not turn on the meter, just get out again.

Sperto

09-09-11, 06:24

Obrigado for the great intel! Obrigado to Sperto for the intel about taxi rip offs!
Are the yellow cabs always on the meter / regulated, or are some of those rip off cabs too?
It appears from the Sperto VM map that the shortest walk is from the 455 bus stop to VM, Mosaico. It appears the walk from 455 is shorter from any of the Metro stops discussed?
I was looking for a bus route of the 455 on the inet? Anyone have a link?
Obrigado, alles!
Unless I'm leaving VM in heavy rain I wouldn't take a taxi in VM. Most VM taxi drivers are a**-holes. It's unlikely that they will turn on the meter and they might be hard to negotiate with.
I have the habit when taxis in Brazil to never use meters. In 90% of the cases I make an offer or negotiate before going in the taxi. It usually works fine.

The walk from the bus stop to VM is shorter than the walk from the metro. If you go from Copa to VM by bus or metro is your own choice. Either one takes normally about 30-40 minutes. The bus goes quite quick if you leave Copa around 3-4 PM. If you go a little later there will be much more traffic and you might stuck on Presidente Vargas for ages. If you get stuck in a traffic jam it can take one hour by bus. I still prefer going by bus. Relaxing in the bus, admiring the beautiful women in the streets and getting in a good mood for VM. Metro is also convenient, but you have to change metro trains going there.

Going back to Copa can be as quick as 20 minutes with bus.

Bus 455, "Meier", passes Av NS Copacabana, Rio Sul, Botafogo, Flamengo, Praça XV, Presidente Vargas, Central, Praça da Banderira... Make sure you get of at the right bus stop. The first stop after the big traffic junction.
When arriving at Praça da Bandeira just cross the road on the walkways. If you run quickly or feel suicidal you can try crossing the street.

Sulan

09-09-11, 15:09

I would really appreciate som info about the prices and girls at Monte Carlo and Centaurus. I have read that there are some university students working in Centaurus, is it correct? I have understood that the entrance fee are quite high at Centaurus but how much do you think it would cost to bring a girl to the hotel for the night? What are the balconies you have been talking about and where is it located? I've been to fkk in Frankfurt and New Scandalo in Malaga and I felt perfectly safe, can you say the same about Centaurus / Monte Carlo?

Jan 156

09-09-11, 20:07

Most people will find getting the Metro via Cristovao the easiest way of getting to VM by public transport the first time. When the bus approaches the Praca, it can be travelling very fast indeed, so you have to know when to pull the bell. If you've seen the area at least once I think that helps. Expanding on Sperto's instruction about the 'big junction' - this, for the unwary, is a major conglomeration of flyovers and slip-roads north and south off Presidente Vargas. When your bus suddenly goes several feet in the air (the sensation of approaching the flyover rapidly) , then the next stop is yours (when it 'lands' in Praca Bandeira). You may also see a big lit-up bridge off to your right while still travelling fast. Another indication to get ready to exit.

If you miss your stop, just get off at the next one and walk back. You'll be covering the same ground as when you arrived by Metro at Cristovao.

There are a good number of buses that go to Pr. Band / VM, apart from the 455 Meier one, but the 455 is easy. You can also approach from the north.

I rarely get the Metro unless, as Sperto also does, it is rush hour. When there's heavy traffic, it also depends what part of town you are coming from, as the traffic along NS Copacabana can take a long time as well. If I do get the Metro, I prefer to get off at Alfonso Pena: but again that is a way to travel once you have got your sense of direction. Unlike Cristovao, Alfono Pena is a very nice area, full of nice shops and bars and restaurants, untouristy, and occasional street market sellers that charge a fraction of Copa's prices. Another advantage is you don't have to change trains, you just stay on the 'posh' one. Go there during the day and find your way around, head north to cross Pr. Bandeira and on to VM. It's about the same distance as Cristovao and there are more turnings but it is a nicer walk.

Lorenzo

09-09-11, 20:48

I would really appreciate som info about the prices and girls at Monte Carlo and Centaurus.RTFF.

I have read that there are some university students working in Centaurus, is it correct?They may very well TELL you that they are students, but who knows?

I have understood that the entrance fee are quite high at Centaurus but how much do you think it would cost to bring a girl to the hotel for the night?The price of having her come to your hotel is entirely between you and the girl and will need to be negotiated. It would depend on how long you want her to stay. Since Centaurus girls are top end, expect to spend a lot.

What are the balconies you have been talking about and where is it located?Av. Atlantica 1424, Copacabana, near Praca do Lido.

I've been to fkk in Frankfurt and New Scandalo in Malaga and I felt perfectly safe, can you say the same about Centaurus / Monte Carlo?You should have no concern for your safety while you are inside those places. Your concern for safety should be for when you are on the str eet. Always take a taxi from point A to point B at night, no matter how short the distance.

Eric Cartman

09-10-11, 03:51

RTFF.QFT. The rest of your reply was a lot longer. And less snarky. Than I would have been.

Lorenzo

09-10-11, 04:16

QFT. The rest of your reply was a lot longer. And less snarky. Than I would have been.QFT? Not on the abbreviation list. What does it mean?

PatmarBeleza1

09-10-11, 05:17

Obrigado re Alfonso Pena. Great local intel, area recon.

Maybe similar from my perspective: I have found that Largo do Machado Metro station is in a really pretty good area, especially for a gringo like me:

- easy walk from Metro to Barao do Flamengo motel (69R pernoite, I mentioned)

- easy walk to Serrano Motel (on the to do list)

- ScortShow is round the corner so no taxi (50R) at the motel Barao do Flamengo.

- AND (just figured out from clicking around the 'net) that prive Ju Panteras is right there on Largo do Machado too.

Anyway, what I am seeing from clicking around Google maps and posts like this below (and the other web site members). Is that

- patrol base at Barao do Flamengo. 455 Meier bus to Mosaico and / or Metro to Centro Termas / Prives.

- alternate patrol base Malaga, Mosaico, Tijuca prives.

It looks like Tijuca (Mosaico, VM, Malaga motel, prives tigresa / mix / tijuca.) is just on the periferia geographically and economically. And Largo do Machado a little too.

If I do get the Metro, I prefer to get off at Alfonso Pena: but again that is a way to travel once you have got your sense of direction. Unlike Cristovao, Alfono Pena is a very nice area, full of nice shops and bars and restaurants, untouristy, and occasional street market sellers that charge a fraction of Copa's prices. Another advantage is you don't have to change trains, you just stay on the 'posh' one. Go there during the day and find your way around, head north to cross Pr. Bandeira and on to VM. It's about the same distance as Cristovao and there are more turnings but it is a nicer walk.

Erectus Indicus

09-10-11, 09:27

QFT? Not on the abbreviation list. What does it mean?QFT : Quoted For Truth

Jan 156

09-10-11, 12:59

Obrigado re Alfonso Pena. Great local intel, area recon.De nada.

It looks like Tijuca (Mosaico, VM, Malaga motel, prives tigresa / mix / tijuca.) is just on the periferia geographically and economically.Tijuca proper covers quite a large area. I've stayed in Alfonso Pena and walked to Tijuca Shopping for instance, but Tijuca to VM is quite a trek. Centro is not bad (Rua Carioca) as VM is only a short bus ride and there are the attractions of living in the city. But Copa and Ipanema give you a holiday feeling destination with beaches and party spirit. These other places don't really do that in the same way.

PatmarBeleza1

09-12-11, 23:19

What is the street address of massagemtijuca? Same street as tigresatijucanas?

Yes, that's what I was aiming for. I somehow automatically added.

.br

When I typed the report. Sloppy work; I vow to improve.

As Almotu points out, his URL works, too. However, it is not exactly the same website. They are almost identical, but for the listing of Carla. Strange.

Bubba Boy

09-13-11, 01:23

From the Bubba Guide.

Tigresas Tijucanas (http://www.tigresastijucanas.com)

Rua General Roca 340/114 Tijuca (3872-5268)

Monday – Friday 10:00 ás 20. 00, Saturday 10:00 ás 18. 00.

30 Minutes R$ 50. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 80. 00.

NB: Entrance is actually through the main entrance of a garage, next to the church, about 30 meters down you will see a staircase to your right. Go up, at the top you will see 2 large water tanks, turn left at top. It is the first door you will see.

Mix Massagem (http://www.mixmassagem.com)

Rua Conde de Bonfim. 352, Sala 506. Tijuca (2568-3067). Right next to metro exit.

Monday – Friday 09:00 ás 19. 30, Saturday 09:00 ás 15. 00.

30 Minutes R$ 50. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 80. 00.

Anne Massagem (http://www.annemassagens.com.br)

Rua General Roca 263. Tijuca (2587-2846)

Monday – Friday 09:00 ás 20. 00, Saturday 09:00 ás 20. 00.

30 Minutes R$ 50. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 90. 00.

Massagem Tijuca (http://massagemtijuca.com/)

Av Paula Souza. 214. Tijuca (Maracanã) (2234-8160)

Monday – Friday 10:00 ás 19. 30, Saturday 10:00 ás 18. 30.

30 Minutes R$ 60. 00, 40 Minutes R$ 70. 00, 60 Minutes R$ 90. 00.

Check out Anes Massagem while heading for tigressas, it is just on the other side of the street about a further 100 yards up. They have stepped their game way up of late

Aibolit

09-14-11, 04:04

First, I'd like to thank all those who responded with advice to my post about a week ago. I understand that in order to find model-looking stunners that I like (I. E. No fat thies and butts). My best bet will be to go to termas. I will certainly hit main termas. From this forum, I understand that the most stunning girls are to be found in (overpriced) Centaurus and Monte Carlo. Correct?

Yet, some advised me not to veer away from termas, as I don't speak Porto. I do want to try some of other "genres" of Brazilian debauchery, however. My question is. Can stunners be found beyond termas, or I'll be wasting valuable time? I looked at some preve sites recommended by Sperto (thank you, Sperto!) , but didn't see anyone slim there.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Aibolit

Aibolit

09-14-11, 04:04

I meant, I'll be visiting RIO

Sperto

09-14-11, 06:18

I looked at some preve sites recommended by Sperto (thank you, Sperto!) , but didn't see anyone slim there.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

AibolitThe girls at the privês are of mixed body-types, including slim body-types.

As you speak zero Portuguese and seem a bit unsure I think you better don't bother about the privês and stick to termas like Centaurus, L'Uomo, Monte Carlo, Solarium etc.

HungryStud101

09-14-11, 08:54

Anyone ever rent a car in Rio? I want to drive from Rio to Sampa and drop at the interntonal airport. Anyone ever done something like this? Hw long was the ride and do the rental car companies nail you with drop fees?

Euro100

09-14-11, 12:59

anyone ever rent a car in rio? i want to drive from rio to sampa and drop at the interntonal airport. anyone ever done something like this? hw long was the ride and do the rental car companies nail you with drop fees?i have rented cars in rio (from hertz). if you do, make sure you get the insurance. also, make sure that you do not speed. they have plenty of speed traps, which take you picture. then a few weeks later a charge on your credit card appears for that speeding ticket. very hard to fight this one! i also rented a gps with my car, and this sucked big time and even dropped the signal quite often; so perhaps you want to bring your own. and of course parking in sp and rio can also be a major problem, depending on where you want to go.

but why rent a car? the only reason that i rented a car was that i wanted to explore the coastline between rio and sp and to go out to buzios. if you just want to get from rio to sp, this is total overkill. you can get cheap one-way flights from rio to sp on gol airline. last time i did this in january, and it was less than $100 one way. or you can also take a very comfortable air-conditioned bus (which i have also done a few times).

PatmarBeleza1

09-14-11, 14:24

PatmarBeleza1

09-14-11, 14:28

I have never visited prive, but, correct me if I am wrong: looking over the prive websites, I am seeing body types that are pretty much the same as at the termas. Maybe the same bunda has a 9. 5 face at a terma compared to a 7 face, but the difference is 220R v 50R (4x4 v 30min prive) , or even 350R v 50R.

Anyway, with the prives as a "pro forma" base, (ie, get there at 10 AM, for 30 min) , I think a guy goes into a terma at 2 in a much stronger negotiating mindset for a free pernoite with the top terma talent, or maybe a little R like dois cem; get your 10 "no's" for your one "sim"

The girls at the privês are of mixed body-types, including slim body-types.

As you speak zero Portuguese and seem a bit unsure I think you better don't bother about the privês and stick to termas like Centaurus, L'Uomo, Monte Carlo, Solarium etc.

Jan 156

09-14-11, 16:57

Where do you catch a bus from Rio to SP, at Central station? What is the best bus route to Buzios? Bus from Central Station to Buzios? When you get to Buzios on a bus, what are the best lodging options? Any love motels there, or rental apartments? I see some buzios accomodations listed on some of the Rio apt sites, like gringomanagement.

Obrigado.The main central bus Station has buses to SP and pretty well anywhere else (note that 'Central Station' would generally be taken as referring to the train station). If you take a city bus, make sure you get off at the right terminus, as there is a terminus for city buses before you get to the main intercity terminal. Go round the windows in both halves of the terminal (connected by a bridge) and look for the names of the city you want to travel to. Understand the different types of ticket options and choose your seat appropriately when buying. It's quite straightforward though some buses are varying degrees of 'nice,' especially for long haul. That doesn't go for the roads, which are mostly varying degrees of 'shit.'

Sperto

09-14-11, 17:37

... I think a guy goes into a terma at 2 in a much stronger negotiating mindset for a free pernoite with the top terma talent...That must be nice to arrive at a terma at 2 AM and receive a free TLN with the top terma talent.

It happens often?

PatmarBeleza1

09-14-11, 20:19

2 PM.

That's a plan which may or may not occur.

That must be nice to arrive at a terma at 2 AM and receive a free TLN with the top terma talent.

It happens often?

PatmarBeleza1

09-14-11, 20:41

Actually, I had two free TLN with a former top terma girl turned freelancer August last year. And actually, the key was getting some lower end from agency daily while working on the higher end. Agency 170R including taxi. The point I was making is if you're doing a 50 Reias prive session at 10AM or 11 AM daily, your mindset for attempting the semi-GFE experience, TLN with the top Terma girl will be better later in the day, starting at 2 PM, or whenever the tier 1 termas open.

And the other part of the daily plan would be to circle back to mosaico at 11 PM or midnight, because if the tier 1 terma GFE doesn't work, you have that as a fallback, which again, helps psychology.

2 PM.

That's a plan which may or may not occur.

Mr Enternational

09-16-11, 06:31

Exec Talent

09-16-11, 07:18

Bubba Boy

09-16-11, 12:47

Sad -that he didn't know how to please her so she had to get that somewhere else.I have noticed this very 1 dimensional theme develop from exec over the last year. That is if you are well above average in bed, or better still exceptional at pleasing a woman's desire, then she will pretty much be happy and stay with you for ever. Never cheating on you etc.

People are not 1 dimensional, especially Brazilians. They all want / need / desire different things. They want a package of things, not any one thing. However the most important thing a woman wants out of a relationship is security. Sure good sex and being pleased by a man is important in a relationship, but to a woman it is probably like number 5 on the list. They ability to be taken care of is way more important than if someone knows how to lick pussy or not. You can survive without sex but you can't survive without food!

Most Brazilians f*k around, it is cultural. They can get the sex they require outside a relationship, not necessarily a slight on their partner, they just like sex. Hell their partner may be great in the sack, but variety is the spice of life. I was at 502 the other night with Euro and Sex traveler, both good contributors to this board. I asked the girl I was with if she had a boyfriend, just general conversation, and she says "Yes I do, but I always have a little time on the side for 1 more". Sums up Brazilian culture, from the laughing "A's" in Brazil that have everything, right down to the "E's" that have nothing.

PatmarBeleza1

09-16-11, 18:01

This is completely true. I had a mini relationship with a brasileira. She was a freelancer, and before that a top terma girl. After some great per noites in August and December last year, I got to know her whole situation. I could have married her. But here is the whole picture. No career prospects after her previous work, violent alcoholic mother in Reelengo she was forced to live with with her 9 year old son. After seeing her in December, I listened to my friends who said she will only manipulate in her environment, so I steered clear, except for email or video chat. To her credit in July this year she was honest, she said, I have another boyfriend, he helps pay for a place to live for me and my son. I told her to do that, and I told her I was happy for her. She was the best brasileira I was ever with (actually half Brazilian, half Italian). And what could you expect, being a continent away?

I was posting about Class A to Class D a little bit ago. What I was getting at is not that the bunda is actually better with more $R, on the contrary, the doctor in residency that I could have had through Brazilcupid in 2009 was not good at sex (a good indication she was doing real work?). But, the point is, think with your big head, not your little head. You pick a woman to have children with because she is the top stripper at quatroporquatro, and how many men, what job skills, and what kind of family are you picking? If there is a way to do it, to get a namorada for filos why familia, I would try to meet a student from a Class A or laughing A (commodity rich) family. Then if you have kids with her, the kids education is probably endowed.

Anyway, I don't know any of the above from experience (ie being successful with Class A or B brasileiras). I think it would be very hard. I think you could also find a Class C or D brasileira for a family, pretty easily, but not in the places discussed on this website, ie, the termas or agencies.

I think that Bubba Boy guide quote about being completely selfish is applicable.

People are not 1 dimensional, especially Brazilians. They all want / need / desire different things. They want a package of things, not any one thing. However the most important thing a woman wants out of a relationship is security. Sure good sex and being pleased by a man is important in a relationship, but to a woman it is probably like number 5 on the list. They ability to be taken care of is way more important than if someone knows how to lick pussy or not. You can survive without sex but you can't survive without food!

Sperto

09-16-11, 18:11

... the doctor in residency that I could have had through Brazilcupid in 2009 was not good at sex (a good indication she was doing real work?)...IMO sex with regular brazilian girls are normally better than with pro's.
Of course, some of the regular girls might not have the same BJ-skills etc but still provide hotter and better sex.

Mr Enternational

09-16-11, 20:25

Most Brazilians f*k around, it is cultural. They can get the sex they require outside a relationship, not necessarily a slight on their partner, they just like sex. Hell their partner may be great in the sack, but variety is the spice of life. I was at 502 the other night with Euro and Sex traveler, both good contributors to this board. I asked the girl I was with if she had a boyfriend, just general conversation, and she says "Yes I do, but I always have a little time on the side for 1 more". Sums up Brazilian culture, from the laughing "A's" in Brazil that have everything, right down to the "E's" that have nothing.This makes me say hmmm. I was supposed to go see my ex-girlfriend the end of last month. She is from Rio, but now works in Canada. About a week before I was supposed to go she told me that she was seeing a guy there now. I said okay. I just will not go then. (I really didn't want to go in the first place, so it was a great excuse for me.) She said no it is not a problem, I just wanted to let you know. I told her that I didn't want to cause any problems so I thought it would be best if I did not go. She hoped that I had changed my mind back before the time came but I made alternate plans to go to the Dominican Republic. The other day she sent me an email saying that she misses me and I replied telling her not to worry about me because she has someone else to miss now. She wrote back Sunday with,"however, still I miss you! Come to see me please! Beijos." Now she is a pretty trustworthy person (and of course I am a bad/cool mf) but it makes me wonder if she may have done the same with someone else when we were together.

Lorenzo

09-16-11, 22:11

You know what they say. You can't turn a ho monger into a husband. When are these girls ever going to learn? Sad.I agree with you, but the converse is true as well: you can't turn a ho into a housewife, in spite of many opinions to the contrary on this forum. As we used to say in Nam 40 years ago, you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl.

Euro100

09-17-11, 00:17

Sad that he didn't know how to please her so she had to get that somewhere else.This statement is oversimplifying relationships to such a point that I wonder if you chuckled when you wrote it. If you really believe that all you have to do is sexually please your women and she will stay faithful to you, then you are setting yourself up for a really big heart ache.

Sex can be as great as you want, but people also want variety and perhaps even danger. That is, after all, why most of us are on this board. A member of this board that I hung out with last Saturday at L'uomo told me that he used to have a girlfriend that was a dead ringer for Halle Berry, but after a while he cheated on her; and he cheated on her with a less attractive girl. Why? Because that's the way we are wired, I think. And I have to confess that I have done the same. Three or four times I had really attractive girlfriends / wives that my friends were drooling over, and each time I cheated on them. (Not right away, of course. I tried being faithful, sometimes for a very long time, but then the beast inside reared its head again.) You really start to miss the tingle of the conquest, and it can be an addiction like a drug. Doing p4p, by the way, is only a mild version of that drug, suitable to overcome withdrawal symptoms.

Most people, of course, are not like that. They stick with their partners and never cheat or engage in p4p. (Note that I make a difference between the two!) But I would suggest that they stay faithful partially because they cannot image what it would be like if they did not. Many guys wonder, but do not do it. Instead they order pay-per-view porn in their hotel rooms and jerk off. (That business is bigger in revenue, by the way, than all of mainstream Hollywood movies combined.)

But once you stepped over the line, then that tabu is gone. Obviously, a former gdp has stepped over that line previously, as has anybody who bought their services. Deep down you know then that there is opportunity everywhere for those who look, and you should equally know that no relationship is safe. The same is true for males and females; it does not make a difference. Feeding yourself the line about just pleasing your partner in bed the right way and everything will be OK is just like whistling in the dark.

Bravo

09-17-11, 01:34

A good friend of mine and fellow monger married a Help girl a couple of years ago. They have known each other 8 years and have 2 children together (allegedly). Well he travels for work and the other day while he was gone he looked on her facebook and a guy had left a message to the tune of "sorry for keeping you up last night, etc." He confronted her about it and she admitted to fucking the guy. To add insult to injury she would not fuck him so he immediately went to get a divorce packet. I think everyone can figure the moral of this story for themselves.I am pretty sure I know the 3 people you are talking about, so I have seen the situation from the outside and have a different perspective. Did your boy mention that he travels 5-6 days a week? That his schedule constantly changes, so he can go to work in the morning and with no prior notice, travel out of the country and not return for 3 days? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a recipe for disaster. Hell, you couldn't pull that shit with an American woman, never mind a brailsian girl! I can only imagine the shit storm I would face if I called my wife in the morning and was like "Baby I am headed overseas, I won't be back for a few days!" I wouldn't be sleeping on the couch when I returned, I would be in the back yard, sleeping in a tent!

Every monger on here knows, the most dangerous thing for a X-help girl is boredom! I have banged more than my share of married X-Help girls here in the states, simply because they are sitting in the house alone for 10-12 hours a day. Now imagine a woman who is alone for 3 days at a time. Exec Talent nailed it right on the nose, (I wonder if he knows them too). She knows he is fucking other bitches when he travels out of the country, he has even thrown it in her face and he expects her to keep her legs closed?

Moral of the story is : You can't be a monger and expect your wife to be happy about it. She will retaliate.

Bravo

09-17-11, 01:48

Now she is a pretty trustworthy person (and of course I am a bad/cool mf) but it makes me wonder if she may have done the same with someone else when we were together.Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!

Bubba Boy

09-17-11, 02:59

I am buddies with a certain prive girl. These girls are the worse when it comes to lies. At the prive that she currently works, her 4 or 5 of her best friends there all have boyfriends. None of them tell their boyfriends that they work as GDP's. Occasionally when the boyfriend finds out, they just move to a different prive and start again keeping the lie alive. DENY, DENY, DENY works for them I guess.

There is one particular girl that has had her boyfriend literally follow her around for the last 2 weeks. She stills works though, cut out the prive work for the moment but still does freelance work. He even walked into her when she was with a gringo at a restaurant a few nights ago, somehow she even bullshitted her way out of that one. Long lost cousin or some bullshit.

My current prive buddy is also a compulsive liar. She has a boyfriend, she denied it to me for ages until I just couldn't take the stupidity of it anymore and just had to get her to admit it. When she did admit it I am like fine, just stop all the lying crap, it is unnecessary. But, she still carries on with the lies, she just can't help it. I don't even bother pulling up her contradictions anymore. BTW, her having a boyfriend is working well for me. On the plus side he travels a lot and hence she has free time. Also on the plus side, because she has a boyfriend, I don't have to put up with the meaningless telephone calls to her every night, all Brazilian girlfriends demand this, hence as I am not the official bf, I get a pass-Nice. On the downside her bf carries a gun, works as a Police, so there is also a chance I will shot. Like is like that I guess, always pluses and minuses.

So, anyone that dates one of these girls, no matter how friggin good they are in the sack ain't going to stop these girls grabbing a bit of extra dick!

Bubba Boy

09-17-11, 03:01

Three or four times I had really attractive girlfriends / wives that my friends were drooling over, and each time I cheated on them.One of my favourite quotes is "show me a beautiful woman and I will show you a guy that is sick of f*king her"

Eric Cartman

09-17-11, 04:35

Assume they are lying. Assume they are banging other guys. Live more stress-free.

Benjoe

09-17-11, 06:38

Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!Once, I was in a middle of a session (at a natural stopping point) , and the gdp told me that she has to go take a driver's license test, but she will come right back. I was ok with that-she didn't ask for money and there was now more time to recuperate. After a hour or so, she comes back, and we go back at it.

When I was back home a week later, I was going through gpguia, and I found out what she was doing at the driving test.

The Cane

09-17-11, 07:05

Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!If a guy is truly interested in being with a woman who will be faithful, then he should give himself the best chance at it possible by not dating or marrying a prostitute! I mean duh! Talk about setting yourself up for failure. And not only that, the guy needs to leave the game and be faithful himself.

And therein lies the real challenge. Too many guys want to have it both ways. They want a girl who doesn't fuck around town, but then they want to keep doing it themselves. If a man wants a woman who will be faithful to him and him only, then he needs to look for her in the right places. And he needs to be faithful himself. Start with the man in the mirror.

Gfe Finder

09-17-11, 13:11

Once, I was in a middle of a session (at a natural stopping point) , and the gdp told me that she has to go take a driver's license test, but she will come right back. I was ok with that-she didn't ask for money and there was now more time to recuperate. After a hour or so, she comes back, and we go back at it.

When I was back home a week later, I was going through gpguia, and I found out what she was doing at the driving test.

Well, at least she wasn't lying to you. :rolleyes: GPGuia calls their field reports "Test Drives." ;)

Carrib

09-17-11, 15:53

I am amazed that fellow mongers are debating about being faithful to a GDP on a monger board? People from different backgrounds and all walks of life will cheat on their significant other for a variety of reasons. Now when you add the fact that you met her at a prive, a terma or while she was a GDP, it increases the likelihood that she will cheat, it is part of their lifestyle and it is difficult though not impossible for them to change.

A GDP while good in the sack, may not be the best person to marry and have kids. Some of these women carry deep emotional scars and while great in bed, are not well educated and are not the ideal wife. Vice versa, a career and well educated woman, could be avg and horrible in bed and will frown on CIM requests. :-)

That said, after years of mongering and fucking the "girlfriends" of other men, I fucked up and got myself a novia in the DR. Now I am hating the feeling of thinking some other monger is pounding away at my girl despite her assurances that she is faithful. While she is very pretty and has an extremely tight pussy, she's avg at best in bed and I am already getting bored (such is the life of a monger)

In my years I have met a few GDPs who hated their lifestyle, they wanted nothing more than to love a man and get out of their way of life. I met others who will never change and are simply eternal hoes. There will always be men who will marry and try to change these women, a bit a advice-prenup prenup prenup, and tie her ass down with a gang of kids that you provide for.

PatmarBeleza1

09-17-11, 17:05

When my love swears that she is made of truth.

I do believe her, though I know she lies,

Therefore I lie with her and she with me,

And in our faults by lies we flatter'd be.

- Shakespeare.

I had the two greatest per noites of my life last August with this former GDP. Even between that Tues and Thurs, I was doing an agency girl in the morning, washing the sheets at the local laundry, and doing a GDP in the hours after she dropped me off at my apartment. And on, and on. December, two more per noites with her, then she has some crazy work conflicts, and she calls when I am in Barao do Flamengo with a Scortshow girl. Or I go out to see her in Campo Grande, and after the SuperVia ride back to centro, drop by at 4x4, bang Fany.

On GPGuia and hotforum, the brazilians call it fitness, or the fight.

Even the high class, Laughing A, families that I know in Niteroi in their gated communities have marriages that are going on second spouses. But, as someone here said, on average, the Brazilians appear to me to be a lot happier than the average in other countries. Probably all the sexo.

I am amazed that fellow mongers are debating about being faithful to a GDP on a monger board?

Mr Enternational

09-18-11, 04:06

Once, I was in a middle of a session (at a natural stopping point) , and the gdp told me that she has to go take a driver's license test, but she will come right back.I laughed so hard on that one that I woke up my TLN Thai hooker. No one has yet to explain how these termas / prive girls explain all the extra money to their husbands / boyfriends when they are supposedly working a menial job elsewhere.

Assume they are lying. Assume they are banging other guys. Live more stress-free.Being the player that I am I could care less anyway. Why would I give a shit about what they are doing when I know what I'm doing. It pisses many women off that I am so nonchalant, but that is just me. When I was married my wife asked me if I would even care if she fucked someone else. I told her no because it's just sex. But when you go caring for someone else making them sandwiches and shit that is a whole different ballgame. I am honest with myself and I know how and who I am. Therefore I do not want a girlfriend or a wife. I come and go as I please and would prefer if the non-pro or pro that I am seeing at any given moment did the same. As you said EC, "Stress free." The same way I came across the last 1,000 or so, I shouldn't have a problem coming across 1 more.

Mr Enternational

09-18-11, 04:38

but i would suggest that they stay faithful partially because they cannot image what it would be like if they did not. many guys wonder, but do not do it. instead they order pay-per-view porn in their hotel rooms and jerk off. (that business is bigger in revenue, by the way, than all of mainstream hollywood movies combined.)i was thinking you were full of shit until i just read this. these mfs took in us$3,290/day and only had to pay out us$246/day combined to the 5 online sex show workers. and this is just one rinky dink operation.

police raid amateur sexvideo operation in korat.

police yesterday arrested three britons and six thai nationals at a house in nakhon ratchasima for allegedly running an online sex show that fed footage for broadcast in a uk town.

ina radal davies, a welshman, said he earned around bt100,000 each day from running the business for over a year and did not think it was in violation of thai laws. the two other foreign suspects are englishmen mark sotell and kieth goovyer.

he said the thais, four women and one transvestite. none of them ****. were performing of their own will and were paid bt1,500 daily, he said he also earned bt75 per minute of sex chats between the girls and clients, who want to talk apart from watching.

all nine suspects have been charged with distributing pornographic material, and the two thai men. kittisak saetang and issara rakwiset. additionally with drug use, after their [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) tests proved positive.

- the nation 2011-09-17.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/498746-thai-police-arrest-three-britons-for-running-online-sex-show/

Sperto

09-18-11, 07:07

Two pages filled of chit-chat. What happened with the Rio reports?

Nobody is doing mongering in Rio right now?

Satyr23

09-18-11, 07:14

It's acompanhantes021. Com and 40graus. Net. The girls look super hot, but I've never heard it mentioned on ISG. I know there's alot of B. S. Bait and switch scammer sites out there, so I thought I'd ask. Peace.

Frenchieboy

09-18-11, 10:09

Two pages filled of chit-chat. What happened with the Rio reports?

Nobody is doing mongering in Rio right now?You are right Sperto! What happens now in Rio (in the Balcony for example!) because I will be again in Rio in 3 weeks.)

HelpRules

09-18-11, 18:32

Eric Cartman

09-18-11, 21:39

Two pages filled of chit-chat. What happened with the Rio reports?

Nobody is doing mongering in Rio right now?MC. Same old, fewer hot chicks of late. Have 1 fav there I like, Cintia.

Having another ex-MC girl coming over when her "husband" is away on biz.

That is all.

Euro100

09-19-11, 02:11

Speaking of Monte Carlo: I think the hottest-looking women there is the (French?) blonde receptionist with the amazing blue eyes. Does anyone know what her story is?

The Cane

09-19-11, 05:34

Why don't you guys just have fun with the girls and not care who they are fucking. Have a open relationship and thats it. When you get tired of the pussy you can leave. I don't see why this is so hard. In the long run we are all dead so who cares. Brutal but true. Anyone disagree?The only thing equally as ridiculous as criticizing the tutes for being unfaithful is when the tutes get angry or upset when they "catch" one of their clients fucking another girl. Or God forbid, you fuck her friend right there in the terma! Like I say, the tutes are out there fucking every John, Trick, and Hairy, but then mongers somehow owe some loyalty to them?

You're right. This isn't hard. Not at all. As mongers, we get to come and go as we please. But guess what? So do the girls! Everybody needs to recognize this for what it is. This isn't about "commitment" on any level (except for maybe being a repeat customer). It's about open relationships on both sides of the bed where people fuck who they want, when they want.

This is the right kind of attitude for both mongers and tutes to have in order to regularly experience stress-free enjoyment of the "hobby". But then, people seem to have a penchant for unnecessarily complicating their lives.

Oralover

09-19-11, 15:48

Jan 156

09-19-11, 21:31

Any thoughts on how Rock in Rio is going to affect business?

Less availability? Higher prices? Full termas?

The dates are sep 23. Oct 1. Probably more tourism than natural for those dates.

I noticed hotels are pretty full and expensive.Awesome line up, but have never thought it has affected that much before as it's away out in Barra.

Exec Talent

09-19-11, 23:17

Satyr23

09-20-11, 01:16

Any thoughts on how Rock in Rio is going to affect business?

Less availability? Higher prices? Full termas?

The dates are sep 23. Oct 1. Probably more tourism than natural for those dates.

I noticed hotels are pretty full and expensive.I'm flying out on Sept. 21st to Rio. The agencies I've been working with to find an affordable apartment tell me that lodging prices are definitely affected. This is my first trip to Rio and I had no idea Rock in Rio was going on the day after I arrive. I'll definitely find out on the 22nd and pass along what I see. I'm used to Thailand prices and am actually considering testing out the hostels near the beach. R25 or so for a dorm spot. Sure I'll get beautiful sleep with 6-12 other smelly backpackers snoring and farting all night! If anyone knows where to find super cheap lodging where I won't get killed, please drop me a line. I'll be in Brazil til' November 30th.

Thanks,

Satyr

Sean 2112

09-20-11, 06:13

Hey Guys,

Big Fan of the site for a long time now. Had a quick question about 4X4. I thought I read it was raided and closed? What happened, it's open for business again? I'll be in Rio again in late October and it's one of my favorite spots.

Thanks!

Jan 156

09-20-11, 13:03

I'm flying out on Sept. 21st to Rio. The agencies I've been working with to find an affordable apartment tell me that lodging prices are definitely affected. This is my first trip to Rio and I had no idea Rock in Rio was going on the day after I arrive. I'll definitely find out on the 22nd and pass along what I see. I'm used to Thailand prices and am actually considering testing out the hostels near the beach. R25 or so for a dorm spot. Sure I'll get beautiful sleep with 6-12 other smelly backpackers snoring and farting all night! If anyone knows where to find super cheap lodging where I won't get killed, please drop me a line. I'll be in Brazil til' November 30th.If you are cool with a backpackers, then the one in Copa just across from Siqueira Campos Metro station (on Rua Barata Ribeiro) is a pretty good bet and worth booking. It's a few minutes walk from the beach, you have the Metro to take you into the cheapo Centro, plus there's always a good crowd hanging around there enjoying a beer. This is particular true if you are in the slightly younger age group. Haven't stayed there myself but my wingman one year took some guys from there down to Vila Mimosa and he said it looked very well run. You get all the usual stuff of local (non-p4p) info on tap, how to find things and so on, which is a big time-saver for your first trip. There's another hostel another couple of blocks further away from the beach but it is not nearly so nice. Bear in mind it's still Copa though (ie relax and enjoy the bonhomie but be wary of where you get drunk and stay alert when wandering around late on in the evening).

Copa is the fun place to be, but it's also tourist central and things cost. There are cheap places to stay in town (Centro) that will not sell out (like the flea-pit across from the Ibis just off Rua Carioca) but you are a Metro ride away from the party atmosphere of Copa and also the beach.

Barra de Tijuca, where the Rock festival is staged, is a long Way from Copa, Centro or the rest of Rio really. It could be a different city. In rush hour, it can take up to a couple of hours to get into Copa, so not worth staying there unless most of the stuff you want to do is in Barra.

Exec Talent

09-20-11, 14:18

If you are cool with a backpackers, then the one in Copa just across from Siqueira Campos Metro station (on Rua Barata Ribeiro) is a pretty good bet and worth booking.The Siqueira Campos metro stop actually exits either on Siqueira Campos or Figueiredo Magalhães with Tonelero being the closest cross street. Barata Ribeiro is another block up towards the beach.

http://www.metrorio.com.br/estacao_siqueiracampos.htm

The only hostel I know of near there actually is a relatively new one located on Teneiro Aranha (going away from the beach and Barata Ribeiro). L'uomo is in the shopping center next to the Siqueira Campos metro stop and on Tonelero there are a couple of small apartment / termas. Could you possibly be referring to metro stop Cardeal Arcoverde with Stone of a Beach and Mellow Yellow hostels nearby?

http://www.metrorio.com.br/estacao_cardealarcoverde.htm

http://www.stoneofabeach.com.br/

http://www.mellowyellow.com.br/

I have taken tourists to both places (not for money, just trying to help out) and both are pretty basic. The staff at both places were nice and spoke English well.

BTW, has anyone been to this new club also located in the same shopping center ast L'uomo? (Yes, I read the internet reviews and am asking about someone actually have been there not just surfing the internet).

http://fosfoboxbarclub.wordpress.com/

PatmarBeleza1

09-20-11, 15:54

I suggest trying Barao do Flamengo, pernoite. It is on the Largo do Machado metro stop. The area is safe. Pernoite is 69R for 8PM to 12 noon next day. Below is a list of Rio Love Motels that I found on one of the Brazilian websites. I think another poster here said the zona sul motels are going upscale, but I think you might be able to find 12 hour deals for under 100R in the centro motels. I posted about this lodging technique earlier on this thread.

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Amazonas Veja Rua Alexandre Mackenzie. 122 (21) 3849-2900.

Champagne . Rua do Senado. 274 (21) 2232-1844.

Feitiço . Rua do Resende. 58 (21) 2232-9568.

Fenix Veja Rua do Senado. 189 (21) 2242-8004.

Fluminense Veja Rua dos Inválidos. 176 (21) 2252-0069.

Gallery Veja. Rua Camerino. 15 (21) 2263-2885/2263-2435.

Paraguai . Rua do Senado. 240 (21) 2509-5473.

San Diego Veja Rua Senador Pompeu. 190 (021) 2233-8791.

Sheik . Avenida Gomes Freire. 55 (21) 2224-3063/2242-4409.

Snob Veja Rua Henrique Valadares. 150 (21) 3231-8031.

Verlaine . Rua Costa Feereira. 90 (21) 2233-4795/2233-5848.

Villa Regia Veja Rua Sacadura Cabral. 136 (21) 2223-4104.

Vina Del Mar . Rua Joaquim Silva. 57. Lapa (21) 2509-1857.

Barra

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Calypso . Estrada do Pontal. 399. Recreio (21) 2490-1666/2490-1677.

Dunas Veja Avenida das Américas. 2211 (21) 2493-7979/2494-3939.

Hawaii . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 3186 (21) 2493-0132/2493-0195.

Marbella . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 431 (21) 2494-2248.

Maxin . Avenida Fernando Mattos. 877 (21) 2494-2323.

Papillon . Praça São Perpetuo. 150 (21) 2494-2727.

Praia Linda Veja Av. Pepê.1430. Praia do Pepê (21) 2494-2186

Serramar Veja Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 1020 (21) 2494-2150/2493-0433.

Skorpios . Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 54 (21) 2494-2455/2493-0154.

Summertime . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 87 (21) 2493-2155/2493-2177.

Zona Norte

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alphaville . Rua Uranos. 607. Bonsucesso (21) 2590-8437.

Bariloche Veja Rua Hadook Lobo. 206. Tijuca (21) 2204-0013/2569-2698.

Cartago . Rua Cachambi. 713. Cachambi (21) 2501-0266.

Champion . Estrada VigáRio Geral. 118. Jardim América (21) 2471-3120.

Comodoro . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 600. Jardim América (21) 2471-4676/2371-7731.

Condor . Avenida Amaro Cavalcanti. 535. Meier (21) 2594-9992/2597-1392.

Corinto Veja Rua Maxwell. 460. Vila Isabel (21) 2570-9696.

De Maio . Rua Vinte e Quatro de Maio. 11. Méier (21) 2501-0640.

Eden . Rua Soares the Costa. 147. Tijuca (21) 2569-5346.

Free . Avenida Itaóca. 60. Bonsucesso (21) 2290-5063/2590-5942.

Gallant Veja Rua Joaquim Palhares. 411. Praça Bandeira (21) 2273-4541.

Gran Ville . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. Jardim América (21) 2471-4811.

Love Land Veja Rua Miguel Angel. 636. Cachambi (21) 2501-0047.

Magnus Veja Rua Barão de Uba. 133. Tijuca (21) 2273-1545.

Malaga . Rua Barão de Iguatemi, andº 224. Praça the Bandeira

Palácio do Rei . Rua Hadock Lobo. 331. Tijuca (21) 2234-3383/2567-6814.

Rosa the Vila . Avenida Marechal Rondon. 2221. Sampaio (21) 2501-4096.

Stop Time . Avenida Brasil. 6505. Ramos (21) 2590-1383/2590-4541.

Sunshine Veja Praia the Bica. 1051. Ilha do Governador (21) 2393-7238/2393-7239.

Te Adoro Veja Rua Teodoro the Silva. 742. Vila Isabel (21) 2577-6630.

Zona Oeste

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Agadir . Rua Augusto Vasconcelos. 506. Campo Grande (21) 2394-4766.

Blue Star Rio . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2226. Nova Iguaçyou (21) 2471-1631.

Caricia . Rua Clara Nunes. 250. Madureira (21) 3350-6064.

Champiom . Avenida Brasil. 1900. Campo Grande (21) 3371-2120.

Costa Blanca Veja Rodovia Washington Luís 1520, km 1, 5 (21) 2671-4404.

Granville Veja Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. VigáRio Geral (21) 2471-4382

Jumbo . Estrada Intendente Magalhães. 346. Campinho (21) 3359-4141.

Miragem . Avenida Brasil. 31850. Bangu (21) 3331-0935.

Mirante Veja Estrada dos Bandeirantes. 1280. Taquara (21) 2445-0075.

Nobre . Rodovia Washington Luís 4640, km 4, 5 (21) 2671-8041.

Oklahoma . Avenida Brasil. 41821. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7986/2413-8205.

Omaha . Avenida Ministro Edgard Romero. 675. Madureira (21) 3352-2001.

Palazzo . Avenida Brasil. 32000. Bangu (21) 3331-7474/3331-9108.

Salou . Avenida Brasil. 41435. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7569.

Top Cap . Avenida Brasil. 32477. Bangu (21) 3331-8080/3331-5037.

Zona Sul

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alameda . Rua Candido Mendes. 112. Glória (21) 2509-7880.

Bambina Veja Rua Bambina. 65. Botafogo (21) 2539-0713.

Barão do Flamengo . Rua Barão do Flamengo, andº 36. Flamengo (21) 2556-7079.

Challon Veja Rua Cândido Mendes. 521. Glória (21) 2242-8826.

Diamond Veja Rua the Glória. 46. Glória (21) 2253-6262.

Diplomata Veja Praça Demétrio Ribeiro. 103. Copacabana (21) 2295-8282.

Elegance Veja Rua Correia Dutra. 19. Catete (21) 3235-9000

Escort Veja Rua Estrada the Gávea. 674. São Conrado (21) 3322-1400.

Love Time Veja Rua Ant. M. Campos. Catete (21) 2265-1884/2558-1911

Magic Veja Rua Santo Amaro. 11. Glória (21) 2507-2037.

Nosso Hotel Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 210. Leblon (21) 2274-3247

Panda Veja Rua São Clemente. 298. Botafogo (21) 2537-3134.

Pedro Américo . Rua Pedro Américo. 173. Catete (21) 2205-2019.

Praia Lido Veja Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 202. Copacabana (21) 2541-1397.

Serrano Veja Rua Gago Coutinho. 22. Largo do Machado (21) 2285-3233.

Shalimar . Avenida Niemeyer. 218. Leblon (21) 3322-3392.

Sinless Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 214. Leblon (21) 2512-9913.

Vila Rica Veja Rua Conde de Lages. 2. Glória (21) 2232-2983.

VIP's Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 418. Leblon (21) 3322-1662.

NiteróI

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Carinhoso . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 6, 5 (21) 2603-1935.

Fair Play . Avenida Eugênio Borges. 2500. Arsena (21) 2701-1596.

Gantuá . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 2, 5 (21) 2625-0903.

Le Baron Veja Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 5 (21) 2627-6166.

Praia das Flexas . Estrada Francisco the Cruz Nunes. 128 (21) 2616-4220.

Sparta Veja Rua São Lourenço. 55 (21) 2622-3666.

Sundown . Avenida Quintino Bocaiuva. 881. São Francisco (21) 2710-0946.

I'm flying out on Sept. 21st to Rio. The agencies I've been working with to find an affordable apartment tell me that lodging prices are definitely affected. This is my first trip to Rio and I had no idea Rock in Rio was going on the day after I arrive. I'll definitely find out on the 22nd and pass along what I see. I'm used to Thailand prices and am actually considering testing out the hostels near the beach. R25 or so for a dorm spot. Sure I'll get beautiful sleep with 6-12 other smelly backpackers snoring and farting all night! If anyone knows where to find super cheap lodging where I won't get killed, please drop me a line. I'll be in Brazil til' November 30th.

Thanks,

Satyr

Satyr23

09-20-11, 17:01

This definitely saved me some time on my search. I appreciate it!

Poucolouco

09-20-11, 19:07

The Siqueira Campos metro stop actually exits either on Siqueira Campos or Figueiredo Magalhães with Tonelero being the closest cross street. Barata Ribeiro is another block up towards the beach.

http://www.metrorio.com.br/estacao_siqueiracampos.htm

The only hostel I know of near there actually is a relatively new one located on Teneiro Aranha (going away from the beach and Barata Ribeiro). L'uomo is in the shopping center next to the Siqueira Campos metro stop and on Tonelero there are a couple of small apartment / termas. Could you possibly be referring to metro stop Cardeal Arcoverde with Stone of a Beach and Mellow Yellow hostels nearby?I believe Cristopherd may have been referring to Choice Hostel. It's directly across rua Tonelero from the Metro Figueiredo Magalhães exit. With any hostel in Rio I would suggest you be constantly alert to the possibility of theft. In the past couple of years there have been numerous invasions and armed assaults of tourists at Copacabana and Ipanema hostels. Checking the security of the hostel is recommended. However, in several of these incidents, employees of the hostels have been implicated in cospiracy with the invading robbers.

Jan 156

09-20-11, 22:10

Sorry guys. Typing when very tired. I meant Arcoverde Metro stop. Which is Pretty well on Barata Ribeiro. I think the hostel I was talking about is called Mellow Yellow (just google) , and you can see it from Barata Ribeiro although it's just off the main road in Rua General Barbosa Lima. I haven't stayed there but remembered it as it is so handy for just about everything. (Same for stone of a beach).

One hostel I would definitely recommend, but maybe not to a newbie, is.

Rio Tijuca Hostel (http://www.allhostel.com/hostels/board.php?bo_table=brazil&wr_id=8&sca=Rio+De+Janeiro&PHPSESSID=)

, Rua Araujo Pena. 58. Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro.

I've stayed there twice for a couple of nights on arrival just to sort out an apartment and once when I was doing some work connected with the Uni Hospital. It's an easier drop from the airport than going through Centro to Copa or Sul, it's walking distance to Mimosa (which is how I know the Alfonso Pena way of getting there) and would be handy for Carnaval (although I've not used it for that). For a hostel, I think you could only describe it as positively luxurious.

I couldn't find the homepage link offhand, but I've added a general link with booking if anyone wants it.

HungryStud101

09-21-11, 04:09

I have booked a trip for Carnival. I am using points to stay at a hotel pre-carnival but they will not let me use points during Carnival. Rates for a cheap hotel such as the one I have reserved is 750$/night and is nowhere near the beach (Rua Aprazivel 163 Santa Teresa

Rio de Janeiro 20241-270)

Since I will spend 5 days on the beach pre-carnival, I am not as concerned where I will stay during the carnival itself. I am looking for a Safe Clean place that is about half of the one I have reserved. I want to go to the Event probably Sunday the 19th which is the first main parade and then I will head out of town on the 20th. Any Ideas where I can stay during Carnival that will save me cash? Something that is away from Copa / Ipanema may be OK if there is transportation to the Parade.

Also, tickets for the parade are expensive. Any suggestions? Tickets run from 180-520$ for grand stands.

http://www.rio-carnival.net/rio_carnival/sambodromo-samba-parade-tickets.php

Is this the best place to buy tickets?

My song:

http://www.rio-carnival.net/_mp3/beijaflor.mp3

Poucolouco

09-21-11, 15:24

I have booked a trip for Carnival. I am using points to stay at a hotel pre-carnival but they will not let me use points during Carnival. Rates for a cheap hotel such as the one I have reserved is 750$/night and is nowhere near the beach (Rua Aprazivel 163 Santa Teresa

Rio de Janeiro 20241-270)

Since I will spend 5 days on the beach pre-carnival, I am not as concerned where I will stay during the carnival itself. I am looking for a Safe Clean place that is about half of the one I have reserved. I want to go to the Event probably Sunday the 19th which is the first main parade and then I will head out of town on the 20th. Any Ideas where I can stay during Carnival that will save me cash? Something that is away from Copa / Ipanema may be OK if there is transportation to the Parade.Try one of the love motels in Centro, Lapa or Gloria. There are about 20 to choose from. If you rent a standard apartment room for 24 hours, the daily rate is only about R$ 200 and they do not raise the rates during Carnaval. You may not be able to reserve that far in advance without pre-paying for the room. Even if they will not take advance reservation you can usually rent the room one or two days before check-in. You will also be a short taxi ride to / from the Sambodromo.

Almotu

09-21-11, 15:59

Bubba Boy

09-21-11, 22:02

Real just hit 1. 84 today. My living expenses have dropped 25% from 3 months ago! Now if it can just get towards 2. 0.

Lopkx

09-23-11, 03:05

Azmitgom

09-23-11, 03:30

Azn Safado

09-23-11, 04:42

Mr Enternational

09-23-11, 04:48

Always puzzled when a guy wants to turn a working girl into a wife. Maybe watching too many "Pretty Woman" like movies or something. But, what a contradiction, turning a chic who is used to fucking many men a week into a single man woman. Everyone woman I know who has been a working girl and is married to someone I know via other acquaintances is cheating on their husband not one is faithful. That is the norm not the exception.Couldn't agree with you more. I met a girl online in July who is a bar girl here in Thailand. Of course I have never given her money because I met her online and not at work. So last night (which would be this morning USA east coast time)...

Piya (9/22/2011 9:05:36 AM) : I have bf now. Sorry I not want to tell you about this.

Me: ok. Chok dee. Why not want to tell? It is good for you.

Piya: because am not sure about he. Am have he be 4 I met you. And I though you know that too.

Me: how I can know? You tell me you not have.

Piya: that why I said to you maybe we not meet any more. I like you yeah.

Me: up to you.

Piya: yeah up 2 me. So you and me can't be friend.

Me: can.

Piya: if more then friend can too.

Me: what bf say?

Piya: I not tell.

Me: I not tell too

Voyajer1

09-23-11, 11:00

All these girls keep a lot of "Options" available, even if they quit the so called "GDP" game. I met such a girl a few years back who was working in one of the best brothels in the city while going to school. She clearly has been interested in me for a long time, but I know through other sources that she has many other guys that she sees on the side. I have been around for a long time and knew that she lied all the time to cover her tracks.

Fast forward to the last trip I took. She "Confessed" that she not only sees other guys on the side, but she charges them to compliment her pay from her new career, which is farly decent. I guess she felt some level of guilt by not being upfront with me about her secondary gig. I told her it does not matter and I understand her circumstances, so she should not worry about my feelings. Heck, I enjoy the variety of ass that I myself tend to seek and crave when I am in Rio myself and she knows all the people that I do when there anyway, that GDP network is unavoidable if you go there often.

She looked so relieved after that encounter that we had a really tremendous session that day, one of the best I've had in my life. I guess she thought she was hurting my feelings or something by being deceiptful. I think that by being honest made her feel better and she rewarded me with a mind-blowing encounter. As I told this gal before, there is no way I'll stop seeing her, ever, she has the flattest stomach combined with the best looking waist, hips, legs, ass and ass that I've ever seen. Just a really curvy as hell, soft and firm everywhere, velvet mouth and tremendous bedroom skills. Even so, I still like to go and seek new ass, after all, this IS Rio.

My point is, that I agree with you totally, can't change the girl's nature. If they are wired like us, loving the variety out there, you cannot change their ways, no matter what you do as we cannot cure our urge for that " Other piece of candy".

I often hear stories of guys "falling in love" or "falling for" GDP's. I have yet to even come close to developing any feelings for a GDP. Maybe it's just cultural differences but I just have never had a strong emotional connection with any of them. Sure, a lot of them are cool to hang out with but I haven't met one that is super smart, witty, or charismatic. Of course, part of the issue is the language barrier where my Portuguese isn't great. But even with the English speaking ones, there is no emotional connection. It could be my subconscious always telling me "this girl ain't the one for you" so there's no way for me to fall for one of these girls.

Exec Talent

09-23-11, 11:39

Always puzzled when a guy wants to turn a working girl into a wife. Maybe watching too many "Pretty Woman" like movies or something. But, what a contradiction, turning a chic who is used to fucking many men a week into a single man woman. Everyone woman I know who has been a working girl and is married to someone I know via other acquaintances is cheating on their husband not one is faithful. That is the norm not the exception.I know many who are faithful. I was friends with one woman in the US, with a heart of gold, who helped me learn Portuguese and understand Brazilian culture. She had been married to an American who cheated on her. She later married another American who appreciated her and as far as I know are still together. My experience is that the men do not realize or underestimate what is required to make a relationship work with a woman from another culture. They have never been successful with women and are anxious to get her home and show her off to their friends. Or, they are men whom have had one failed relationship with an American woman after another. For some odd reason they think that a Brazilian woman who doesn't speak English or if she does, not very well, can't work and will be homesick five mintutes after she arrives, is the ideal candidate for a wife.

All they are thinking about is the great sex they now will get for free and how envious all other guys will be of them.

It is easy on this forum to blame the GDPs. Survey says that it was the man who got bored with his puppy and when he couldn't take her back, went out to play with another one.

Bubba Boy

09-23-11, 14:29

My experience is that the men do not realize or underestimate what is required to make a relationship work with a woman from another culture. They have never been successful with women and are anxious to get her home and show her off to their friends.Same old over simplistic view. It is kind of normal for a Brazilian to see other people whilst in relationship. If you try and change this then you do not understand Brazilian culture.

Bravo

09-24-11, 03:40

Edward M

09-24-11, 14:23

I posted this question in the picture section but I guess it would be better to post it here!

Why do the 4X4 girls take you to the room first and then leave to go get their bags and change clothes? Why don't they go to the room with their things and ready to start the session like Monte Carlos girls? I only ask, because I wonder if some of the guys are getting ripped off on their 1 hour session, when the girl is gone for 10 minutes.I suspect it is because 4x4 is much bigger and that would be a lot of guys waiting in the hall. Also in 4x4 giving you 5-10 minutes alone gives you a chance to shower while in MC the rooms do not have showers.

And as others have said your time should start when the girl comes back to the room not when she drops you off. Make a point of checking your watch and you will be less likely to be shorted.

PatmarBeleza1

09-24-11, 15:27

I always shower shave etc multiple times in the sauna room before initiating a session with the girl in the boite, main strip section. In the 'interview' I tell the girl, I am already showered, and when she takes me to the cabine, I tell her I am already showered. The sauna room has mini packs of soap, shampoo, shaving gel, razors, toothbrushes, toothpaste. There is also a wet and dry sauna room. I am just saying this because for the first 4 or 6 times I went to 4x4 I didn't even realize all the amenities in the sauna room. You can actually go to 4x4 at 2PM when it opens, shower multiple times, take a girl by 5 PM (waiving $R50 entrada, so $R220 for 60 minutes, or $R200 for 40 minutes) , then circulate between the boate (main strip room) , sauna, and the back room (smoking room) for as long as until closing (the latest I stayed would be maybe 8 PM). You're surrounded by naked women who will screw you. What could be better?

I need to upload some pics from phones to upload.

I suspect it is because 4x4 is much bigger and that would be a lot of guys waiting in the hall. Also in 4x4 giving you 5-10 minutes alone gives you a chance to shower while in MC the rooms do not have showers.

And as others have said your time should start when the girl comes back to the room not when she drops you off. Make a point of checking your watch and you will be less likely to be shorted.

The Cane

09-24-11, 15:41

I always shower shave etc multiple times in the sauna room before initiating a session with the girl in the boite, main strip section. In the 'interview' I tell the girl, I am already showered, and when she takes me to the cabine, I tell her I am already showered. The sauna room has mini packs of soap, shampoo, shaving gel, razors, toothbrushes, toothpaste. There is also a wet and dry sauna room. I am just saying this because for the first 4 or 6 times I went to 4x4 I didn't even realize all the amenities in the sauna room. You can actually go to 4x4 at 2PM when it opens, shower multiple times, take a girl by 5 PM (waiving $R50 entrada, so $R220 for 60 minutes, or $R200 for 40 minutes) , then circulate between the boate (main strip room) , sauna, and the back room (smoking room) for as long as until closing (the latest I stayed would be maybe 8 PM). You're surrounded by naked women who will screw you. What could be better?

I need to upload some pics from phones to upload.Besides all of the amenities you note, including all those naked girls with the big boo boo's, there's also supposed to be a spot in there now where you can go order a bite to eat (not talking about the whiskeria downstairs but another location within the club). Anybody know about it or tried it? Any good?

Satyr23

09-24-11, 23:12

Bubba Boy

09-25-11, 00:10

Almotu

09-25-11, 00:28

Satyr23

09-25-11, 00:37

I think everyone here would appreciate it if you would post comparison photos of this incident. One member posted in the Sao Paulo section of a similar situation and the real life photo was truly frightening.Sorry, didn't bother taking pics with this one.

Gaucho9

09-25-11, 02:38

Ordered a girl from the escort site 40grausdotnet. Girls look amazing, but what showed up wasnt. Had already spent alot of time trying to find a girl on a Saturday, so just went with it. At least her service rocked. They are independents so maybe not all the pics are bullshit, but at 200 per hour + taxi, I certainly don't care to find out.There are several website from RJ that are a complete ripoff.

If you check the local forums (like Hot and GP Guia) it becomes really evident.

http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=8251

http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=23796&start=30

Fake photos (taken from Sexy and other local magazines) , generic names and one phone number to call them all.

40 Graus (http://www.40graus.net) is probably the worse. But there are some other phony ones:

http://www.gostosuras.net

http://www.mariasemvergonha.net

http://www.milfaces.com

http://www.moreninha.net

http://www.megaclassrj.com

http://www.saladadefrutasrj.com

http://www.vipgoldrj.com

The photos look great, yep, but you can bet the world that you're not going to get the original ones.

Eric Cartman

09-25-11, 07:03

I posted this question in the picture section but I guess it would be better to post it here!

Why do the 4X4 girls take you to the room first and then leave to go get their bags and change clothes? Why don't they go to the room with their things and ready to start the session like Monte Carlos girls? I only ask, because I wonder if some of the guys are getting ripped off on their 1 hour session, when the girl is gone for 10 minutes.Seriously, who the fuck doesn't shower up when you enter a T? Step one, disrobe and, um, robe up. Step 2, go to the bathroom and shower. Step 3, hit the boate and you are "ready to go."

At 4x4, when I've been there, there's always been an awkward wait for a room where you stand in the hall. At MC, at least when they leave you standing in the hall, the chicks go shower up and scrub up / out. At 4x4, they always take a shower in the room when we enter.which just fucking wastes time. At MC, they emerge freshly scrubbed ("prepare-se bem!") and we go off to hit it.

By the way, R$ hovering at USD$1. 9 must make things easier to take for all your visitors, yes?

Satyr23

09-25-11, 07:14

Thanks. I appreciate the list Gaucho. It might be nice to have a thread dedicated to B. S. Escort sites.

Torgoch

09-25-11, 08:43

Besides all of the amenities you note, including all those naked girls with the big boo boo's, there's also supposed to be a spot in there now where you can go order a bite to eat (not talking about the whiskeria downstairs but another location within the club). Anybody know about it or tried it? Any good?Would this be the upstairs lounge at the back? (now thwe smoking lounge) I've seen people eating in there before.

Gaucho9

09-25-11, 18:12

Thanks. I appreciate the list Gaucho. It might be nice to have a thread dedicated to B. S. Escort sites.On the other hand, not all websites are phony. There are some really goooood ones.

Here are some of my recommendations:

http://www.riosexsite.net

http://www.escortgirl.tv.br

http://www.barravipsrio.com

http://www.hotside.com.br

As a rule of thumb I'd distrust any website that doesn't include the direct phone number of the freelance. Avoid agencies.

And you'll need some good communication skills. Cause you'll be calling directly the girl and not many of them speak english.

But the truth is that some of the best girls from RJ are found on these sites.

Enjoy.

Gaucho9

09-25-11, 18:18

Thanks. I appreciate the list Gaucho. It might be nice to have a thread dedicated to B. S. Escort sites.If you understand some portuguese, go an visit the local forums:

http://www.gpguia.net

http://www.hotforum.com.br

I checked them out regularly. Cause locals always know best.

And one last thing: I might have been too harsh on Gosturosas (http://www.gostosuras.net/primeira.html). Take them out of the blacklist. They might be "legal" after all.

The Cane

09-25-11, 18:52

Would this be the upstairs lounge at the back? (now thwe smoking lounge) I've seen people eating in there before.Ah, so maybe it's the same place as the smoking lounge. I wouldn't be able to stand all of the cigarette smoke, so I think that's a no go for me.

Aibolit

09-26-11, 03:53

Gentlemen!

Planning my upcoming trip to Rio, I've decided to use Trip Advisor to find a hotel on Copacabana. My goal was to combine proximity to the beach with proximity to termas where stunners can be had. To my astonishment, I found the following prices for hotels that I liked:

- Porto Bay Rio Internacional Hotel US$400 / night.

- Copacabana Palace by Orient-Express $1000 / night.

Even these two hotels had some mixed reviews. So I wonder how bad the other cheaper hotels are.

Am I missing something here, or hotel rates in Rio are ridiculously high? These prices just don't make any sense!

Any advice of quite, clean, reasonably priced hotels on copacabana? Thanks in advance. Aibolit

Exec Talent

09-26-11, 04:07

Bubba Boy

09-26-11, 14:40

On the other hand, not all websites are phony. There are some really goooood ones.

Here are some of my recommendations:

http://www.riosexsite.net

http://www.escortgirl.tv.br

http://www.barravipsrio.com

http://www.hotside.com.br

As a rule of thumb I'd distrust any website that doesn't include the direct phone number of the freelance. Avoid agencies.

And you'll need some good communication skills. Cause you'll be calling directly the girl and not many of them speak english.

But the truth is that some of the best girls from RJ are found on these sites.

Enjoy.This is good work. We need more of this. Thanks a bunch.

Sperto

09-26-11, 16:25

On the other hand, not all websites are phony. There are some really goooood ones.
Here are some of my recommendations:...
It's very good when they a video in the presentation. You can't photoshop a video (I guess).
A price list would be nice to see.

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:43

I agree, those sites are good. My approach has been: A) positive reviews on gpguia or hotforum, be) good pictures on the website, if the web link is listed in the brazilian review. Very good girls from hotside and riosexsite. Some of the hottest became mini relationships, BBFS.

This is good work. We need more of this. Thanks a bunch.

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:46

Yasmin Vianna, she's been on Mike in Brazil dot com and others

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:48

Salvador girls are more attractive than cariocas in many cases. Non pro on street.

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:50

Not as solid as Scortshow, but still some real gems

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:52

Mirella Bittencourt GDP from Hotside 2010

PatmarBeleza1

09-26-11, 16:54

One of the best morenas, not there in fact her pictures never went on their site.

Aibolit

09-27-11, 03:58

I think you already found the cheap ones! Seriously, good luck in your quest. Even with the exchange rate improvement, Rio hotels (other than hostels) are far from cheap. More and more people are going to Colombia.Thanks for the feedback, Exec Talent. But. I have to be in Rio and Columbia is not an option. I don't mind paying money when the payment requested is reasonable. Paying $1000 per night for some dinky Rio hotel makes me feel used. As long as I find clean, safe, reasonably priced place near the beach and the action. I am fine. Any advice?

Thanks in advance, Aibolit.

Tiradentes

09-27-11, 04:16

Thanks for the feedback, Exec Talent. But. I have to be in Rio and Columbia is not an option. I don't mind paying money when the payment requested is reasonable. Paying $1000 per night for some dinky Rio hotel makes me feel used. As long as I find clean, safe, reasonably priced place near the beach and the action. I am fine. Any advice?

Thanks in advance, Aibolit.Try Miramar hotel. The rooms are bit old and with some mold odor but it is affordable ($ 150 / night) with a prestigious open buffet breakfast in the morning. It is a 4 star hotel located on the beach (posto 5).

Sperto

09-27-11, 06:40

I don't mind paying money when the payment requested is reasonable. Paying $1000 per night for some dinky Rio hotel makes me feel used.I wouldn't call Copacabana Palace a "dinky" hotel.

Sperto

09-27-11, 06:44

Thank you, Patmar, for nice pics.
The Cassiascort-girl looks really nice. Bittencourt has a very impressive chest.

Salvador girls are more attractive than cariocas in many cases. Non pro on street.
That was a beautiful dark girl. Entering Elevador Lacerda I guess?

PatmarBeleza1

09-27-11, 14:44

Sperto, The pictures of the beautiful dark Salvador girl were made at the bottom of the elevator in the structure in the picture. It is the elevator that goes down to Mercado Modelo. A quick Google search confirms it is Elevador Lacerda.

That was a beautiful dark girl. Entering Elevador Lacerda I guess?

PatmarBeleza1

09-27-11, 14:46

Scortshow Mulatta 2009

PatmarBeleza1

09-27-11, 14:47

Mariana Velloso Hotside former Scortshow

PatmarBeleza1

09-27-11, 14:49

Mel Newscort.

09 10.

Highly recommended

PatmarBeleza1

09-27-11, 14:53

For $1000 a nite, stay at VIPs Motel, and have a scortshow girl all night.

Seriously, some of those higher end love motels have suites that are better than the hotels mentioned. You can watch a buttman movie on porn TV in the same room where it was filmed!

Thanks for the feedback, Exec Talent. But. I have to be in Rio and Columbia is not an option. I don't mind paying money when the payment requested is reasonable. Paying $1000 per night for some dinky Rio hotel makes me feel used. As long as I find clean, safe, reasonably priced place near the beach and the action. I am fine. Any advice?

Thanks in advance, Aibolit.

Common Sense

09-28-11, 03:37

Hey Gents,

I'm preparing for a carnival run in Rio for 2012. I've done carnival in Trinidad so I've got to compare. Anyway, I was looking at some of the posts from 2009 and it was metioned that the termas are closed during carnival. Anyone know if that's been the case for the last two years? Thanks.

Aibolit

09-28-11, 03:42

I wouldn't call Copacabana Palace a "dinky" hotel.Agree, Sperto. Copacabana Palace is a great hotel. However, I've traveled the world extensively and compared to some other great hotels, Copacabana Palace is not coming on top, except price. Regardless of the semantics, it's overpriced beyond belief at $1000 / night. Any suggestions of a reasonably priced hotel on the beach near all the action will be appreciated. I may even lookn into apartments, but don't feel too comfortable withe this "genre".

Best, Aibolit

Aibolit

09-28-11, 03:45

try miramar hotel. the rooms are bit old and with some mold odor but it is affordable ($ 150 / night) with a prestigious open buffet breakfast in the morning. it is a 4 star hotel located on the beach (posto 5).thank you, tiradentes. greatly appreciate the advise. will research miramar on trip advisor. i would prefer high quality hotel, but not overpriced. my problem is not so much with the quality of the top hotels in copacabana, but the fact that compared with their peer group abroad they are beyond overpriced.

thanks again!

aibolit

Aibolit

09-28-11, 03:50

For $1000 a nite, stay at VIPs Motel, and have a scortshow girl all night.

Seriously, some of those higher end love motels have suites that are better than the hotels mentioned. You can watch a buttman movie on porn TV in the same room where it was filmed!What is Scortshow and where is VIP Motel? My intention is not to pay $1000 / night, but to have high-end comfortable accomodations without paying double the price of what they should cost.

Aibolit

Eric Cartman

09-28-11, 04:21

What is Scortshow and where is VIP Motel? My intention is not to pay $1000 / night, but to have high-end comfortable accomodations without paying double the price of what they should cost.

AibolitI am a little annoyed when people come to the board and don't do basic research like searching this board or reading Bubba Boy's guide to answer questions.

That said, as I'm more charitable than cranky tonight, I'd refer you to Accor Hotels website. They have some reasonable properties in Zona Sul at prices that are less than some of what you quoted.

http://www.accorhotels.com/

Do a search on Rio De Janeiro and consider the Botafogo / Copa / Ipanema properties. The Mercure in Ipanema (Raina Eliz) is showing R$432 per night these days but at R$1. 8 per USD or 1. 85 that's not horrible. It used to be about USD$100 night in 2006, by comparison. It also happens to be around the corner from Centaurus and a short walk to the metro. They have some other properties I haven't tried but as you note Trip Advisor may have some advice.

Meanwhile, read Bubba's guide and abuse the Board search feature. And please post the results of your trip, with as many details as you can muster.

Lastly, I must wonder why people keep making plans to come here given the rampant inflation in Brasil and. Until recently. The strength of the Real. If you are choosing to come, be advised you are heading into a heady market where inflation is running 10-12% per year (don't believe the official figures) and the Real has been overvalued for a long time until the past 3 weeks. With that landscape, it is churlish to complain about prices. You know what you are getting into.

PatmarBeleza1

09-28-11, 04:26

Scortshow = www.scortshow.net

The website of VIPS motel is.

http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/

Check on the website for prices. The cheapest suite (apartment luxo) is quoted at 115R$ per 8 hours, and extra hour for $R18. 4 each, so 12 hours would be 188R$.

This scene was filmed at VIPS.

http://www.roccosiffredi.com/en/Dirty-Dreams-04-Scene-1/film/11775

(BTW, up until early 2010, you could also bang mayara rodrigues who is in that scene. Look on gpguia. Net there are threads on atriz porno.)

The Talita Brandao scene in this Buttman film was filmed at VIPS:

http://www.evilangelvideo.com/title/1000008994

I have less knowledge than the senior members on this board, and I don't want to distract with chit chat. But the below list of love motels in Rio (which is from a brazilian website a few years out of date) , and a inet search should point in the right direction.

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Amazonas Veja Rua Alexandre Mackenzie. 122 (21) 3849-2900.

Champagne . Rua do Senado. 274 (21) 2232-1844.

Feitiço . Rua do Resende. 58 (21) 2232-9568.

Fenix Veja Rua do Senado. 189 (21) 2242-8004.

Fluminense Veja Rua dos Inválidos. 176 (21) 2252-0069.

Gallery Veja. Rua Camerino. 15 (21) 2263-2885/2263-2435.

Paraguai . Rua do Senado. 240 (21) 2509-5473.

San Diego Veja Rua Senador Pompeu. 190 (021) 2233-8791.

Sheik . Avenida Gomes Freire. 55 (21) 2224-3063/2242-4409.

Snob Veja Rua Henrique Valadares. 150 (21) 3231-8031.

Verlaine . Rua Costa Feereira. 90 (21) 2233-4795/2233-5848.

Villa Regia Veja Rua Sacadura Cabral. 136 (21) 2223-4104.

Vina Del Mar . Rua Joaquim Silva. 57. Lapa (21) 2509-1857.

Barra

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Calypso . Estrada do Pontal. 399. Recreio (21) 2490-1666/2490-1677.

Dunas Veja Avenida das Américas. 2211 (21) 2493-7979/2494-3939.

Hawaii . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 3186 (21) 2493-0132/2493-0195.

Marbella . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 431 (21) 2494-2248.

Maxin . Avenida Fernando Mattos. 877 (21) 2494-2323.

Papillon . Praça São Perpetuo. 150 (21) 2494-2727.

Praia Linda Veja Av. Pepê.1430. Praia do Pepê (21) 2494-2186

Serramar Veja Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 1020 (21) 2494-2150/2493-0433.

Skorpios . Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 54 (21) 2494-2455/2493-0154.

Summertime . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 87 (21) 2493-2155/2493-2177.

Zona Norte

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alphaville . Rua Uranos. 607. Bonsucesso (21) 2590-8437.

Bariloche Veja Rua Hadook Lobo. 206. Tijuca (21) 2204-0013/2569-2698.

Cartago . Rua Cachambi. 713. Cachambi (21) 2501-0266.

Champion . Estrada VigáRio Geral. 118. Jardim América (21) 2471-3120.

Comodoro . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 600. Jardim América (21) 2471-4676/2371-7731.

Condor . Avenida Amaro Cavalcanti. 535. Meier (21) 2594-9992/2597-1392.

Corinto Veja Rua Maxwell. 460. Vila Isabel (21) 2570-9696.

De Maio . Rua Vinte e Quatro de Maio. 11. Méier (21) 2501-0640.

Eden . Rua Soares the Costa. 147. Tijuca (21) 2569-5346.

Free . Avenida Itaóca. 60. Bonsucesso (21) 2290-5063/2590-5942.

Gallant Veja Rua Joaquim Palhares. 411. Praça Bandeira (21) 2273-4541.

Gran Ville . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. Jardim América (21) 2471-4811.

Love Land Veja Rua Miguel Angel. 636. Cachambi (21) 2501-0047.

Magnus Veja Rua Barão de Uba. 133. Tijuca (21) 2273-1545.

Malaga . Rua Barão de Iguatemi, andº 224. Praça the Bandeira

Palácio do Rei . Rua Hadock Lobo. 331. Tijuca (21) 2234-3383/2567-6814.

Rosa the Vila . Avenida Marechal Rondon. 2221. Sampaio (21) 2501-4096.

Stop Time . Avenida Brasil. 6505. Ramos (21) 2590-1383/2590-4541.

Sunshine Veja Praia the Bica. 1051. Ilha do Governador (21) 2393-7238/2393-7239.

Te Adoro Veja Rua Teodoro the Silva. 742. Vila Isabel (21) 2577-6630.

Zona Oeste

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Agadir . Rua Augusto Vasconcelos. 506. Campo Grande (21) 2394-4766.

Blue Star Rio . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2226. Nova Iguaçyou (21) 2471-1631.

Caricia . Rua Clara Nunes. 250. Madureira (21) 3350-6064.

Champiom . Avenida Brasil. 1900. Campo Grande (21) 3371-2120.

Costa Blanca Veja Rodovia Washington Luís 1520, km 1, 5 (21) 2671-4404.

Granville Veja Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. VigáRio Geral (21) 2471-4382

Jumbo . Estrada Intendente Magalhães. 346. Campinho (21) 3359-4141.

Miragem . Avenida Brasil. 31850. Bangu (21) 3331-0935.

Mirante Veja Estrada dos Bandeirantes. 1280. Taquara (21) 2445-0075.

Nobre . Rodovia Washington Luís 4640, km 4, 5 (21) 2671-8041.

Oklahoma . Avenida Brasil. 41821. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7986/2413-8205.

Omaha . Avenida Ministro Edgard Romero. 675. Madureira (21) 3352-2001.

Palazzo . Avenida Brasil. 32000. Bangu (21) 3331-7474/3331-9108.

Salou . Avenida Brasil. 41435. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7569.

Top Cap . Avenida Brasil. 32477. Bangu (21) 3331-8080/3331-5037.

Zona Sul

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alameda . Rua Candido Mendes. 112. Glória (21) 2509-7880.

Bambina Veja Rua Bambina. 65. Botafogo (21) 2539-0713.

Barão do Flamengo . Rua Barão do Flamengo, andº 36. Flamengo (21) 2556-7079.

Challon Veja Rua Cândido Mendes. 521. Glória (21) 2242-8826.

Diamond Veja Rua the Glória. 46. Glória (21) 2253-6262.

Diplomata Veja Praça Demétrio Ribeiro. 103. Copacabana (21) 2295-8282.

Elegance Veja Rua Correia Dutra. 19. Catete (21) 3235-9000

Escort Veja Rua Estrada the Gávea. 674. São Conrado (21) 3322-1400.

Love Time Veja Rua Ant. M. Campos. Catete (21) 2265-1884/2558-1911

Magic Veja Rua Santo Amaro. 11. Glória (21) 2507-2037.

Nosso Hotel Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 210. Leblon (21) 2274-3247

Panda Veja Rua São Clemente. 298. Botafogo (21) 2537-3134.

Pedro Américo . Rua Pedro Américo. 173. Catete (21) 2205-2019.

Praia Lido Veja Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 202. Copacabana (21) 2541-1397.

Serrano Veja Rua Gago Coutinho. 22. Largo do Machado (21) 2285-3233.

Shalimar . Avenida Niemeyer. 218. Leblon (21) 3322-3392.

Sinless Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 214. Leblon (21) 2512-9913.

Vila Rica Veja Rua Conde de Lages. 2. Glória (21) 2232-2983.

VIP's Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 418. Leblon (21) 3322-1662.

NiteróI

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Carinhoso . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 6, 5 (21) 2603-1935.

Fair Play . Avenida Eugênio Borges. 2500. Arsena (21) 2701-1596.

Gantuá . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 2, 5 (21) 2625-0903.

Le Baron Veja Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 5 (21) 2627-6166.

Praia das Flexas . Estrada Francisco the Cruz Nunes. 128 (21) 2616-4220.

Sparta Veja Rua São Lourenço. 55 (21) 2622-3666.

Sundown . Avenida Quintino Bocaiuva. 881. São Francisco (21) 2710-0946.

What is Scortshow and where is VIP Motel? My intention is not to pay $1000 / night, but to have high-end comfortable accomodations without paying double the price of what they should cost.

Aibolit

Bubba Boy

09-28-11, 13:18

With that landscape, it is churlish to complain about prices. You know what you are getting into.Churlish? Now that is a word one does not hear that often. Too funny!

Bubba Boy

09-28-11, 13:23

Agree, Sperto. Copacabana Palace is a great hotel. However, I've traveled the world extensively and compared to some other great hotels, Copacabana Palace is not coming on top, except price. Regardless of the semantics, it's overpriced beyond belief at $1000 / night. Any suggestions of a reasonably priced hotel on the beach near all the action will be appreciated. I may even lookn into apartments, but don't feel too comfortable withe this "genre".

Best, AibolitI agree the Copacabana Palace is not a great hotel by world standards. It's rooms are in need of a serious makeover, I would say they are 4 star at best. The hotel amenities are quite nice though. Yes it is steeped in history etc and is probably, along with the Hotel Alvear Palace in Buenos Aires, the most famous hotel in Latin America. However not at all of the same standard that you would expect from such a great name hotel that you would find in Europe or the US.

Fedo09

09-28-11, 13:45

I agree the Copacabana Palace is not a great hotel by world standards. It's rooms are in need of a serious makeover, I would say they are 4 star at best. The hotel amenities are quite nice though. Yes it is steeped in history etc and is probably, along with the Hotel Alvear Palace in Buenos Aires, the most famous hotel in Latin America. However not at all of the same standard that you would expect from such a great name hotel that you would find in Europe or the US.First price is not 1000 $ but 1/2 of it in certain periods. This hotel has nothing to envy to Europe and US palaces : Savoy and Ritz London. Crillon and Bristol Paris. Principe Milano or Pierre NY.

Certain rooms need makeover I agree but other have been renovated.

History and tradition are the difference with the modern establishements.

The Copa Palace concierge has the most impressive list of national and international escorts in the world

Bubba Boy

09-28-11, 21:14

Went for a prive run today, just got back.

Caught the train out to Tijuca, dropped into Annes massagem (http://www.annemassagens.com.br/) & Tigressas (http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/). Went more for a look than anything although have been with a few of the girls at both places in recent weeked. Decided not to stay with anyone this time. Annes has been very good of late, Tigressas has always been good since I have been going there. Didn't drop by Mix, they have been a bit of a mess of late.

Caught the train to centro. Dropped by Bel Prazer (http://www.belprazer.com/) , good strong line up. Was going to stay with one particular girl but got pipped by a Brazilian guy. He actually asked me if I wanted her, I just said I can return any time, so he went off with her. No biggie. Ended going up the road to Casa 19, (http://novamassagem.com/) same owners as Bel. Ended up going away from the place pretty happy.

I guess I saw 30 girls, out of that there were maybe 5 doable, pretty good hit rate, about the same as a big terma I guess. Spent R$100 + R$20 for some lunch. Successful trip!

Satyr23

09-29-11, 00:42

Thanks for the update. I'll be staying in Tijuca starting tommorow, so that's real handy.

Carlos Primeros

09-29-11, 01:14

Lorenzo

09-29-11, 06:11

There are so many good 5 star hotels in Rio which charge 400 Real!Really? That's news to me. By all means tell us what they are. (I think we may have different criteria for what constitutes a 5 star hotel.)

Sperto

09-29-11, 20:27

Even though I prefer apartments I would be very happy to stay at Copacabana Palace. I couldn't care less if it's standard is 4 or 5 stars. Copacana Palace has a fame and history as no other hotel in South-America.

It's fascinating to see old BW photos of Copacabana. Copacabana Palace stands proudly in a quite empty Copacabana (it's also fascinating to see how small the beach was in the old days).

Prosal

09-29-11, 20:40

Hi all,

Discussing Copa Palace here is quite amusing. Old, worn, totally overpriced. It is just a 4 star hotel claiming to be 5 stars and charging the price of the Burj al Arab hotel in Dubai. Imagine how much pussy you get for this money.

There are so many good 5 star hotels in Rio which charge 400 Real!

Waste of bandwidth and time in my opinion.

Carlos PrimerosFor 400 reals you won't have currently more than a 3 stars. Not even in peak carnaval or NYE season. That said, it is admittedly ridiculous, considering that the Oriental Bangkok, one of the top 5 hotel in the world, has rates around 160€. Don't know why anyone would bother to go in Brasil nowadays.

Camelot13

09-30-11, 00:33

For 400 reals you won't have currently more than a 3 stars. Not even in peak carnaval or NYE season. That said, it is admittedly ridiculous, considering that the Oriental Bangkok, one of the top 5 hotel in the world, has rates around 160€. Don't know why anyone would bother to go in Brasil nowadays.The women. But the Copacabana hotel is the celebrity hotspot. Stevie Wonder, Rhianna and Katy Perry stayed there last week, and you will see more the same this week with Rock in Rio. Try the Marriott if you are looking for a pretty nice place at a high but ok price, and its location is pretty good. You can also bring back a girl if you want.

And Hi all. This is my first post.

Snooky

09-30-11, 02:48

Anyone have any current locations for the Centro office building massegems. I went to a few on Rio Blanco but I know they keep moving office numbers.

Jan 156

09-30-11, 02:55

The women. But the Copacabana hotel is the celebrity hotspot. Stevie Wonder, Rhianna and Katy Perry stayed there last week, and you will see more the same this week with Rock in Rio. Try the Marriott if you are looking for a pretty nice place at a high but ok price, and its location is pretty good. You can also bring back a girl if you want.

And Hi all. This is my first post.I quite like just wandering round the Copa Palace to look at the photos and absorb the history. Like you, I prefer the variety and personalities of women in Brazil to the very lovely Thai ladies (who one person on another forum described as 'all looking as if they have been whacked in the face with a wok. ') I can understand I think how Carlos Primeros (who I think I have met many years ago?) wouldn't go for it, but it's cool to have different tastes. I'd maybe stay there for one night just for the buzz but generally I like cheap accommodation if that's what my budget allows. I have stayed at the Oriental in Bangkok however and that is also a very impressive, world-class hotel. Though if you like Asians I think there are better value places these days than Bangkok itself, beautiful city though it is. I agree about Carnaval rates in Rio. Many hotels will formally announce Carnaval rates and these can easily be double the usual rates and, what's more, they will sell out even at that (mostly to Brazilians travelling to the capital. Western tourists are a minor percentage).

Welcome to the board, Camelot13. Most of the people here are fans of Brasil and the Brasilian women. Prosal is the resident antagonist, but that's ok too. People like Sperto on the other hand post reliable info and are a valued asset to any punter, new or experienced.

Euro100

09-30-11, 03:08

The women.Well said! Welcome to the board, Camelot13! Those first two words in your very first post sum it up nicely.

Aibolit

09-30-11, 03:55

I am a little annoyed when people come to the board and don't do basic research like searching this board or reading Bubba Boy's guide to answer questions.

The Mercure in Ipanema (Raina Eliz) is showing R$432 per night these days but at R$1. 8 per USD or 1. 85 that's not horrible. .Eric,

Appreciate your charitable spirit. I've searched Mercure Ipanema that you've recommended on Trip Advisor. The outcome is similar to other searches I made for cheaper hotels. Cacroaches, theft, smell, noise. Are among just few comments that people leave after enjoying this hotel. As my goal is not cheap, but comfortable-yet-reasonable, I'm afraid to conclude that all hotels that are not priced ridiculously high in Rio (copa in particular) are going to be hideous. I did read Bubba's guide and thank him, you and everyone else here for sharing your thoughts on the accomodation subject.

Thus, per my recent research, the following 3 hotels on copa make some sense in terms of comfort / cost:

- Arena Copacabana Hotel (US$361, great location, ask top floor far from electrical switch board in a holeway)

- Windsor Excelsior Hotel (US$460 ocean view, can be noisy AC)

- JW Mariott ( US$500 / night)

Hope the the discussion I've prompted and the 3 choices above are helpful to folks who are averse to finding bugs in their hotel rooms. If anyone has better or more creative ideas that don't compromise minimal standards of comfort. Please do tell.

Best,

Aibolit

Mr Enternational

09-30-11, 15:26

Windsor Excelsior Hotel (US$460 ocean view, can be noisy AC)Are you shitting me? The Windsor Excelsior was the hotel me and my wife stayed in my first time in Rio back in 2001. I am quite sure it was not more than $50 or $60 back then.

Many hotels will formally announce Carnaval rates and these can easily be double the usual rates and, what's more, they will sell out even at that (mostly to Brazilians travelling to the capital. Western tourists are a minor percentage).In addition to doubling the rates the hotels (and apartments) charge a minimum of 5 to 7 days as well.

The Cane

09-30-11, 16:28

Last time I was in Rio (last summer) , I found rooms at the Copacabana Palace for around $545 / per night. And that was one of the "cheap" ones with no view! I would love to stay at such a place steeped in so much history, but that's out of my price range. Instead, I picked the girl-friendly Astoria Palace Hotel just a few blocks away for less than half the price.

The Astoria Palace is a beachfront hotel in an excellent location on the strip, within easy walking distance of Monte Carlo, Balcony, and Barbarella's. You can also take a nice and leisurely stroll over to L'uomo. The one big drawback with the Astoria Palace was that they didn't have free wireless internet in their rooms. You had to go down to the little lobby for that. But, I managed to find a workaround. Hehehe!

Almotu

09-30-11, 22:19

Hope the the discussion I've prompted and the 3 choices above are helpful to folks who are averse to finding bugs in their hotel rooms. If anyone has better or more creative ideas that don't compromise minimal standards of comfort. Please do tell.

Best,

AibolitWhat about the Sofitel? I think they would be less expensive than the Copacabana Palace. You are asking about pricing in General, right? Not just during Carnival. For luxury accommodations, I have heard good things about the South Beach Copacabana Residence Club on Domingos Ferreira. But I personally have not stayed there.

ChrisDrug

10-01-11, 08:46

Sperto

10-01-11, 11:21

To all the people who complains on how expensive Brazil is: don't go there, but please stop whining on the forum.

If you can't afford going to Brazil, stay home or go somewhere else.

PatmarBeleza1

10-01-11, 15:30

Jamile Cortat Scortshow 2008

Rio Bob

10-01-11, 16:36

Eric,

Thus, per my recent research, the following 3 hotels on copa make some sense in terms of comfort / cost:

- Arena Copacabana Hotel (US$361, great location, ask top floor far from electrical switch board in a holeway)

- Windsor Excelsior Hotel (US$460 ocean view, can be noisy AC)

- JW Mariott (US$500 / night)

AibolitThe hotels you mention are pictured here in my video, if you care to see them.

Sorry no girls, this is G version for family and friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MObPIcvY6m8

Prosal

10-01-11, 20:00

Just banged a hot 19 why old Columbiana from backpage for 150 / hr. I got plenty of agencies for 150 / hr full of hot young nice chicks in US. Backpage contain plenty of young hot chicks and college cuties for $100+/hr so I don't have to fly 7000 to do pay a premium on top. Honestly, I am not losing my sleep over going back to Brazil anymore. In order to be physically present in Brazil cost me $150 alone for airfare / day + apt rent / day. On top of that, the sky high Terma prices with a standard session costing $200+ is a fend off. Terma owners doesn't understand the supply and demand stretegies. I can stumble upon two young hot chicks for less than $300 / hr on my day off in US.

I have devoted the past six years to Brazil and possibly continue going back but it won't be anytime soon. Do you get in line in McDonald's and order the same value meal over and over if all the meals cost the same? The point I'm trying to make is that Brazil vocational cost is equivalent or above any mongering destination in the world. Why would I order the same meal over and over? I am scheduled for my next vacation in Kiev and German FKK clubs in few months. If Terma owners are clever enough to charge world class prices than I'm witty enough to apreciate the other options. A vacation in Brazil starting to cost me almost $400 a day, thus, I settled on giving Brazil a break forSeconded. Brasil has priced itself out of the market. And despite was the usual "Brasil lovers" mollahs might say, this is a matter of importance. The "take it as it is or stop posting" taliban-esque attitude is not of any help for the monger eager to compare. Exchanging points of views is the purpose of a discussion forum.

Almotu

10-01-11, 21:09

Just banged a hot 19 why old Columbiana from backpage for 150 / hr. I got plenty of agencies for 150 / hr full of hot young nice chicks in US. Backpage contain plenty of young hot chicks and college cuties for $100+/hr so I don't have to fly 7000 to do pay a premium on top. Honestly, I am not losing my sleep over going back to Brazil anymore. In order to be physically present in Brazil cost me $150 alone for airfare / day + apt rent / day. On top of that, the sky high Terma prices with a standard session costing $200+ is a fend off. Terma owners doesn't understand the supply and demand stretegies. I can stumble upon two young hot chicks for less than $300 / hr on my day off in US.

I have devoted the past six years to Brazil and possibly continue going back but it won't be anytime soon. Do you get in line in McDonald's and order the same value meal over and over if all the meals cost the same? The point I'm trying to make is that Brazil vocational cost is equivalent or above any mongering destination in the world. Why would I order the same meal over and over? I am scheduled for my next vacation in Kiev and German FKK clubs in few months. If Terma owners are clever enough to charge world class prices than I'm witty enough to apreciate the other options. A vacation in Brazil starting to cost me almost $400 a day, thus, I settled on giving Brazil a break forChris: I am guessing you reside in Miami or thereabouts because you mention hot Colombianas. If you can really get the same quality of talent without any bullshit then I agree with you. Why not just stay home and just enjoy the abundant p*ssy? I doubt you can find 2 new hot hookers every day for two weeks running like you can easily do when you are in Copa.

But remember Rio can be done on a budget without the fear of possibly getting arrested as you might be in the States. A Scortshow girl costs 80R / hour (120R + 40R taxi RT for 2hrs) which is $44. 44 per hour (1. 80 as the exchange rate). You can find very acceptable garotas in the apartment brothels for 100R / hour = $55. 55 per hour. It was your choice to patronize the Termas.

Jan 156

10-01-11, 22:25

Guys. With respect, this is a Brazil thread. ie for discussing p4p in Brazil. Apart from sweet talking them in Portuguese, I don't think banging chicks in my own country who were born in Brazil will give much in the way of help to mongers visiting Brazil (I can give you several pages if you're interested). And I'm not personally attracted to visiting the USA for p4p of any ethic origin (if I were, I'd look on the US board, surely?)

There are many places that can be compared to Brazil just now economy wise. As I like the lower end of the market (which is still cheap) and can get cheap accommodation arrangements, they don't really figure in my decisions to visit. I cone to Brazil for the rich and varied culture, which includes the variety and style of the mongering scene. It's nice however that visitors have such fond memories that they seek out Brazilian women abroad! Best wishes. C.

HungryStud101

10-02-11, 05:02

Are you shitting me? The Windsor Excelsior was the hotel me and my wife stayed in my first time in Rio back in 2001. I am quite sure it was not more than $50 or $60 back then.

In addition to doubling the rates the hotels (and apartments) charge a minimum of 5 to 7 days as well.I just booked two nights in Rio at a hotel way off the beach for over 700 USD per night. I am lookking for a better deal. Feb 17th everything goes through the roof!

Bravo

10-02-11, 05:52

I just booked two nights in Rio at a hotel way off the beach for over 700 USD per night. I am lookking for a better deal. Feb 17th everything goes through the roof!Did I read that correctly? 700 PER night? For carnival? That is crazy!

Jan 156

10-02-11, 06:52

If you are going for Carnaval, do you really want to be staying out by the beach? Many hotels will not even have rooms left for all of Carnaval. In case it helps, this hotel is not luxurious, but I am fairly sure you will be able to get a room and at a low cost. It's on the West of Centro / north of Lapa, and within very easy reach of Sambodrome (two or three bus stops) and Centro termas (a few minutes walk max).

Rio Hotel.

Rua Silva Jardim. 3. Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ. 20050-060,

+55 21 2262-3120

Jan 156

10-02-11, 07:06

For Copacabana, although three times what you'll pay at the Centro hotel I just mentioned, the Real Palace on Duvivier is showing Carnaval period dates available at USD$328 booking through Agoda. Com. Average business standard hotel that many American travellers would expect. (The hotel site seems to be saying no rooms available, but Agoda may have block-booked - I've used Agoda many times and found them reliable.)

ChrisDrug

10-02-11, 10:43

To all the people who complains on how expensive Brazil is: don't go there, but please stop whining on the forum.

If you can't afford going to Brazil, stay home or go somewhere else.I hear you but you didn't get my point either. [Deleted by Admin]. I got no problem paying $400-500 per day. Try to understand the big picture. If it will cost me the same to hangout in Amsterdam bars, going all over Europe for the same prices, thus, I want to change my taste for a moment. Brazil night scene was so shitty in my past vacation that I was watch DVDs instead in my apt after doing a Terma run + an escort outcall every other day. The night scene is so shitty that I almost end up garbing a sandwich and spending my night watching Dvds. The garotas in balcony are expert at convincing you that they are willing to provide every sexual service that you want while your sipping your caprinha and get your money and bounce moment after they get into your apt. I don't have the time or energy to put up with this anymore. If you want to spend the rest of your natural life eating the same sandwich over and over, more power to you. It's not that I can't afford but I'm smart enough to understand that Brazil prices are similar to every high class mongering destination in the world. I had the best and one of the worst sessions in Brazil too. Why don't explore the world instead of eating the same meal over an over. More power to you if that's your style but Brazil prices are no different than Amsterdam or German FKK clubs so I am willing to take my chances. I got almost half a dozen hot chicks willing to spend an hour for $150 / hr so I don't have to 3x the price for the same deed.

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Sperto

10-02-11, 11:28

Why don't explore the world instead of eating the same meal over an over.I've seen enough of the world and chosen Brazil as my favourite destination. Mongering is just one of the many reasons I go to Brazil. When it comes to mongering Brazil has so much to offer, in Rio and many other cities. My mongering in Brazil isn't expensive, but I don't frequent the expensive termas or Balcony.

Brazil night scene was so shitty in my past vacation that I was watch DVDs instead in my apt after doing a Terma run + an escort outcall every other day. The night scene is so shitty that I almost end up garbing a sandwich and spending my night watching Dvds.Nightlife in Rio in and the rest of Brazil is outstanding. With nightlife I don't mean sipping expensive beer at Balcony.

ChrisDrug

10-02-11, 11:31

21 Y / old hot 5 9" tall hot Brasileira. God damn gorgeous nasty.

ChrisDrug

10-02-11, 11:49

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EnterGraft3

10-02-11, 13:26

Am visiting Rio for first time this week. Can anyone help point a newbie to a good place to see a live sex show?

Mr Enternational

10-02-11, 13:47

I was one of the top scorers in my MBA finance class.LOL. Well I was one of the lowest scorers in my MBA Corporate Finance class. As a matter of fact I made 16/25 on the final exam that was worth 90% of the grade. But guess what? My teacher gave me a B anyway so I could pass the class and graduate. What does all this have to do with getting pussy in Rio you ask? NOT A DAMN THING!

PatmarBeleza1

10-02-11, 13:51

Brazil beats the rest of the world, easily, both the topic of this website, and the whole picture.

I've seen enough of the world and chosen Brazil as my favourite destination. Mongering is just one of the many reasons I go to Brazil. When it comes to mongering Brazil has so much to offer, in Rio and many other cities. My mongering in Brazil isn't expensive, but I don't frequent the expensive termas or Balcony.

Nightlife in Rio in and the rest of Brazil is outstanding. With nightlife I don't mean sipping expensive beer at Balcony.

PatmarBeleza1

10-02-11, 13:56

Suellen Venancio Scortshow 2008, one of best custo beneficio ever

Exec Talent

10-02-11, 14:24

Suellen Venancio Scortshow 2008, one of best custo beneficio everI prefer photos like these in which one can get a feel for the girl's personality, particularly when she appears to be relaxed and having a good time. Most of us can fine porno and gynecological shots all over the internet.

Thanks for sparing us from yet another dick in pussy or ass photo.

Prosal

10-02-11, 16:52

Brazil beats the rest of the world, easily, both the topic of this website, and the whole picture.That is a very dogmatical statement. As usual, to each its own. There's many "pioneer" destinations that could be rated above Brasil in many respects (non-pro scoring, nightlife, women's beauty, culture, ect). If you give me the choice between Tashkent or Rio, I'd chose Tashkent at the drop of a hat.

PatmarBeleza1

10-02-11, 17:22

She was colombian. It was only a matter of minutes for the other kind of pic. Some of the Brazilian sites (gpguia, hotside) said that for the $R100, she was basically the equal of a top freelancer; and she was.

I prefer photos like these in which one can get a feel for the girl's personality, particularly when she appears to be relaxed and having a good time. Most of us can fine porno and gynecological shots all over the internet.

Thanks for sparing us from yet another dick in pussy or ass photo.

Almotu

10-02-11, 18:09

I was one of the top scorers in my MBA finance class. I have arranged remarkable long term investment accounts in Europe. I assure to visit German FKK clubs, Kiev and post the trip report including the pics on this site. Kiev chiks are notorious to be hot as fuck. On top of that, I'm planning to open up some asset accounts in Kiev too so it will be trade and pleasure. I have done my exploration and trust me its worth to give places like Kiev, Amsterdam, and Frankfurt an endeavor. I will substantiate it with a trip report in few months, with cost, and pics so as to prove it. GniteChris: You complain about the lack of nightlife in Rio, but did you try going to Lapa, Ipanema, Leblon, Barra etc. Yes, there is probably not a lot of nightclubs in Copacabana proper but walking from your beach side apartment on Atlantica to Balcony does not count as exploring. If you RTFF you will find out that some of the best FKKs are located in remote suburbs of the major city centers where there is nothing else (nightlife wise) around within MILES. Most reports that I have read involve staying in the FKK for 10/12 hours at a time to maximize the cost benefit of the adventure before get back on the road. Yes, I agree that you can probably find quality talent in these places but I can bet you that you can not wake up the next morning and go down to the beach and sunbathe. The Grass Is Always Greener on the Other Side so "Go EAST Young Man" and do report back on your adventures.

PatmarBeleza1

10-02-11, 18:42

Got some pics of tashkent women, especially their bundas?

I have no interest in a debate. I just like brasileiras. Every man has a right to his opinion.

As well, the nightlife: lapa has some of the best nightlife I have ever seen, and that was on a Tuesday night, after 3. 5 hours of BBFS with a riosexsite girl. Nightlife in all the parts of the city, like Leblon diners, is really muito bom.

Salvador nightlife with the parts of the city is really great too.

But it is the women: Negra, Mulatta, Morena Jambo, Morena, Morena Clara, Loira. Anyway, looking forward to links to the tashkent pics.

Todo tranquilo, calma.

That is a very dogmatical statement. As usual, to each its own. There's many "pioneer" destinations that could be rated above Brasil in many respects (non-pro scoring, nightlife, women's beauty, culture, ect). If you give me the choice between Tashkent or Rio, I'd chose Tashkent at the drop of a hat.

Prosal

10-02-11, 19:17

But it is the women: Negra, Mulatta, Morena Jambo, Morena, Morena Clara, Loira.Well, you are right, no need to enter into a pissing contest or a useless debate. Once again, to each its own. That said, the odes to the brasilian women is for me BS. Sure, there is admittedly some hot women in Brasil, but the road are not paved with them. The myth of a place swarming with bodicious beauties is jeopardized by the fact that obesity is a BIG problem in Brasil (even authorities agree that the country is experiencing an alarming epidemic of obesity, more than 23% of the population). Also, the fact that the average brasilian woman's height is 5'2" (1, 58cm, which is admittedly short) is for me a turn-off. I personally like my women tall and slender. Not short and fat.

Anyhow FYI, there was 260 distinct ethnic groups that composed the FSU (1/6 of earth) and its satellites. In term of beautiful mixes, Russia (or Uzbekistan for that matter, as we talked about Tashkent) can hold a candle to Brasil. But admittedly, no negras nor mulatas there (which anyway is not my thing).

Sperto

10-02-11, 19:54

I was one of the top scorers in my MBA finance class. I have arranged remarkable long term investment accounts in Europe.
I make almost $15, 000 as a general manager of two companies.
I made $20, 000 a month so I am not going to loose my sleep over money that I make in 24 hours.
As a finance major, I have always believed in the diversification rule in terms of my investment portfolio and deposits.
I am about to graduate with MBA in finance.Try impressing the GP's, not us. Our interest are bundas and not what you earn.

Have fun in the german FKK clubs.

Prosal

10-02-11, 20:03

Mulatta; Todo tranquilo, calma.BTW it's cute you show to the board how good you speak portuguese, but mulata takes only one "t". (wink)

Jan 156

10-02-11, 21:31

RJ & General threads needing clean-up. Otherwise off-putting for visitors. Time-consuming trawls to find useful info. Please show restraint rather than leaving Jackson all the work. Also have to ask if it's worth posting anything useful if we're just going to get yet another few pages of Prosal-Eastern-Europe discussion.

Eric Cartman

10-03-11, 01:05

After about 2 weeks of working like a dog 8. 30am. 9.30pm or later, I finally got out on Friday night by 9pm and went to MC.

It was actually pretty packed, mainly Brazilians. Only thing I could think of is (a) few tourists still (rebounded USD vs. R$ hasn't yet been felt) and (be) payday is 5th so they saw the next inflow of cash coming and felt "loose" before the weekend. Anyway, pricing remains the same as far as I could tell. Got my free entrada (I'm registered) and the 1 hr and 1 agua-com-gas cost R$375 which was translated on the bill as USD$220 (1. 7 fx I think, whereas bank rate was 1. 85).

I sat in the corner trying to acclimatize. Had to brush off some n00bs (new girls) who had come in the last 3 weeks when I'd been away. So they thought I was fresh tourist meat. Said Hi to a few favorites. Then Bebel (africa-mulata, big fizzy curly hair, huge natural titties) cornered me and began gyrating, kissing, teasing. Needless to say I rose to the occasion. We had a fun time in the room and I got the number, but it wasn't mind-blowing. I'm a sucker for familiarity I guess.

Then on Saturday I spent the evening with an ex-MC girl (she stopped working last week) for R$200 in my apt, and we hung out for dinner. Nice girl, pretty, fun, but seriously no education or worldview. She was scared to take the metro. I tried explaining what Guinness was to her, LOL. Actually she was a good sport and played along with me drinking weird beer all night, including the fantastic 10. 5% abv Ithaca imperial stout from Cervejeria Colorado in Sao Paulo. That blew her mind. Still, I need to find a girl who's a little more sharp (esperta?) and educated, I guess. It's getting harder and harder. I swear half the girls I meet at T's live out in Nova Iguazu or similar far-away places (1. 5-2hr commute). The fact that she's willing to come 1. 5hrs each way to see me for R$200 and a meal should say something about where she's living. Hell that was her commute every day working at MC and she just needed a break. Tough life for some of these girls.

-Cartman