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Eric Cartman
10-06-11, 02:22
Monday was the like the worst kind of night for me at MC. I had no free entrada this time, and the selection of girls was down like 50% from Friday. There were only 4-5 guys including me, tops, in the boate. And a bunch of the girls I talked to were complaining about how slow it was.

Fun story though: I'm talking to this new-ish chick, been there 3 weeks. Wesley Snipes black, a bit ghetto (nails etc). And she tells me she goes to Balcony on Saturday nights after work to try to make some more money. To pay for her 3 kids. Which she started having at 15. (!) Anyway she says she picked up some dude at Balcony, went back to his hotel, blew him, and he came in like 15 minutes. And then passed out. And as she's telling me this, she's sort of humorously agitated and angry because, she says, she *really wanted to get fucked* and he passed out after BBBJ CIM. Leaving her unserviced. How awesome is that? This chick fucks in a T all week, goes to Balcony for some extra $$, and is pissed because the client didn't roger her. I love Brasil!

Faced with slim pickings, went with Bebel again. Wasn't great. Not mindblowing sex. And ouch R$455 for the hour and the water. Wow not having the free entrada really hurts. Not really worth it IMHO.

Wednesday I decided to try a chick from Hotside, on the advice of one of my friends who had met her (but not taken her for a spin). Nice body on the site, in the pics. 21, mulatta, bit of native Brazilian in her from the looks of her face. Not totally my type but she had a good attitude and a nice body, clean and fresh. And she could deep throat pretty well. Hung out a bit, did 2 rolls in the hay, several positions, dropped 2 loads directly into her open mouth as she looked up at me. Fun times. No cu, but I knew that going in. Best Cartman moment: she tells me she wants me to come *on* her face, and gestures around her cheeks / mouth. And I'm like, well, I'd like to come *in* your mouth. Which leads to the "abre para mim" and the aforementioned 2 loads on her pretty little tongue. Yay!

She consumed 1 red bull on arrival (with vodka) and asked to take another with her on leaving. I said sure. But then, after I paid her (R$300 BTW. Above my usual "house rate" of R$200 that most of the Terma girls seem to accept) she asked me for a tip. Which I declined and then she turned into "money for the taxi". But she blew it because she already told me she lived close in Flamengo (and actually my buddy says she lives in Copa). I'm like, hey, we had a deal (um acordo) at R$300. Plus you're getting a red bull for the road! She accepted it. I did give her my "I work all day and nobody gives me a tip" line, to which she replied "if you worked for me, I'd give you a tip!" haha. I believe I also said "Don't spit in the wind." But I think that went past her.

And now I'm sitting here waiting for another amiga who initially said she'd come at 7pm, then 9. 30pm, then said she was *leaving* to see me at 9. 30pm, and just called me at 10:10pm to say she was 20 minutes away. Hahaha. I saw that coming. Usually I have a plan B to handle my time, like typing these reports. What shits me is not knowing exactly when to take the Vitamin V. Anyway, this chick did wild stuff last time like unsolicited ATM so we will have to see how it goes! If she arrives, that is.

-Cartman

Torgoch
10-06-11, 07:16
A new prive was mentioned on gpguia yesterday (thanks to Komku on gpguia for the detailed info, not me, I'm just passing on the info). Now more choice in Tijuca? Only 2 girls on the site at the moment but one looks hot!

COMPANY MASSAGEM.

Rua Barão de Piracinunga, andº 78, sobrado.

Quem andão conhece esta rua, ela é paralela a Rua General Roca, onde ficam a Tigresas Tijucanas e a Anne Massagens.

O andº 78 fica na esquina com a Rua Desembargador Isidro. No térreo tem uma loja de molduras de quadros.

A entrada the casa fica na Barão de Piracinunga, ao lado do jornaleiro.

Telefone: 2208-4578 e 3549-1428.

Recepcionistas. Cris (2ª.4ª e 6ª) e Claudinha (3ª.5ª e Sabado)

Valores:

30 minutos. R$ 50, 00.

40 minutos. R$ 60, 00.

60 minutos. R$ 80, 00.

A casa é um sobrado antigo que foi reformado. Os quartos são amplos, têm ar-condicionado, relógio na parede e box para banho.

Site the casa. http://www.companymassagem.com/

Eric Cartman
10-09-11, 00:16
Hit up Solarium last night (Sexta) because I heard an old MC fav was working there. Turns out she had moved to Centaurus about 3 weeks ago.

Anyway, the selection had improved a bit from my last visit. Solarium is apparently where the majority of blonde or bottle-blond chicks are hanging out these days. Predominantly white or white (ish). Fewer mulattas and negras. Still a weighting towards the "thicker" body types or even girls with little pouchy bellies poking out over their uniforms. I still see hotter girls at MC or T65.

Overall I think the vibe is not as fun as MC. The girls don't seem as laid back. The prices are definitely higher. 1 hr ran me something like R$465 which I believe was R$10 more than my MC visit the other night (without my free entrada). There is a registration system at Solarium but you need a LOT more points to get anything. Worst part. Insult to injury. Is that their FX for UDS is 1. 4. So R$465 was like US$ 331. I asked, in awe, how they could offer such a shitty rate when the commercial rate is like 1. 8. They said (the receptionist) that it is "just not worth offering a better rate." I think maybe they are not getting a lot of USD spenders these days.

Boate was pretty full including a lot of Brazilian guys drinking and making 4x4 style noise. And one Brasilian ass wearing a T-shirt & Jeans under his robe. Fucker. I really don't like the "we're drunk shouty Brazilian ass-grabber" behavior. I see it less at MC even these days when more Brasilians are at MC. I think Solarium has become sort of the suburban upperclass Brasilian T. I less frequently see similar behavior at T65 which is the centro upper class Brasilian T. Not sure why. I think the tastes of the clients definitely carry over into the selection of girls.

Picked one of the few slim (magra) girls there, Nathalia. She said she'd been working for 1 month, previously worked in a bank. 26, 1 kid, lives with her parents and sisters. She sold me on her BJ skills but they were 5/10 at best. No anal. Reasonable fuck in the room. The suite remains nice, curved bed, good mirrors, extra fuck-chair furniture. To her credit, she did promise to get me the phone number of my fav who had gone to Centaurus. And the next day, she was true to her word. Good girl.

When you factor in the R$15-$20 cab ride there and back (ida / volta) on top of the high price, I really don't see why anyone would go to Solarium over MC or even L'Uomo. Or the centro casas.

-Cartman

Eric Cartman
10-09-11, 00:18
By the way. 3 days with no posts (until mine)? Get off yer butts intrepid adventurers!

Satyr23
10-09-11, 07:06
I finally made it to TigresasTijuca. It was actually really easy to find. Right up the stairs in the parking garage like reported on. I liked how it had the hidden away feel, like some shit you'd see in a movie. I knocked on the non-descript door and they let me in and had me wait in a small room with complimentary water, while girls came in one by one and introduced themselves. After seeing all that were available, I chose one and went back to a room, with a shower, and a bed etc. She gave a baddass BB blowjob, but was completely unenthusiastic and kept frowning if I wanted to do something else. I think her pussy was sensitive that day. Maybe she orgasmed too much earlier. Overall I had fun and know sometimes you get duds at good places or sometimes a girls just having a bad day. I'm stoked to know where the place is, cause I'm in the neighborhood often. Was R95 for one hour and they accepted debit.

Satyr23
10-09-11, 07:20
Also, I was bored as hell very late a couple of nights in the last two weeks and stopped by balcony. I met a very tall, slender Mulata named Rachael. She must be like 5 foot 11 inches, but beautiful and has a real chill presence. I'd never been with a girl taller than me and decided, what the hell. I took her home for R200 and do not at all regret it! She absolutely loves her job and probably stayed about 2 hours with me. Her deep throat was crazy good and I could tell she really enjoyed giving blowjobs. This girl is a completely different person when having sex. It's almost like she's possessed. Her eyes change and the sweetness is replaced by lustful hunger. I got her number and called her over again a few days later. Her performance was amazing both times. If you see her I highly recommend her if you don't mind a girl that tall. I didn't get any pictures but she's hard to miss.

Satyr23
10-09-11, 07:38
One more thing. There's a decent although not all that clean Terma right down Rua Siquiera Campos from the beach in Copa. It's like one block down and is right accross from the park there. It's located directly above a decent looking restaurant on the corner. You would never guess there is a Terma above it, but there is. The entrance is not on Siquiera Campos, but on the side street between the restaurant and the park. It's the open door directly after the restaurant with a stairway leading up to the Club. It's hit and miss, but I found a hot girl and it was cheap. My friend told me I actually got stiffed with the gringo price and it should have been like R95 or something for an hour. I know this report is a little half assed, but I'll probably go back in the next few days, so If you want clearer directions and more clarity on the price scale pm me and I'll get that for you.

Exec Talent
10-09-11, 08:00
One more thing. There's a decent although not all that clean Terma right down Rua Siquiera Campos from the beach in Copa. It's like one block down and is right accross from the park there. It's located directly above a decent looking restaurant on the corner. You would never guess there is a Terma above it, but there is. The entrance is not on Siquiera Campos, but on the side street between the restaurant and the park. It's the open door directly after the restaurant with a stairway leading up to the Club. It's hit and miss, but I found a hot girl and it was cheap. My friend told me I actually got stiffed with the gringo price and it should have been like R95 or something for an hour. I know this report is a little half assed, but I'll probably go back in the next few days, so If you want clearer directions and more clarity on the price scale pm me and I'll get that for you.22 is the name and it has been reported on here before.

Bubba Boy
10-09-11, 13:49
I finally made it to TigresasTijuca. It was actually really easy to find. Right up the stairs in the parking garage like reported on. I liked how it had the hidden away feel, like some shit you'd see in a movie. I knocked on the non-descript door and they let me in and had me wait in a small room with complimentary water, while girls came in one by one and introduced themselves. After seeing all that were available, I chose one and went back to a room, with a shower, and a bed etc. She gave a baddass BB blowjob, but was completely unenthusiastic and kept frowning if I wanted to do something else. I think her pussy was sensitive that day. Maybe she orgasmed too much earlier. Overall I had fun and know sometimes you get duds at good places or sometimes a girls just having a bad day. I'm stoked to know where the place is, cause I'm in the neighborhood often. Was R95 for one hour and they accepted debit.R$95? I go there all the time and it is R$80 for the hour. I guess there is a decent surcharge for using a card.

Satyr23
10-09-11, 15:56
22 is the name and it has been reported on here before.Oh, cool. How much should one pay then for an hour if he's not getting took for a stupid gringo?

Eric Cartman
10-09-11, 16:04
One more thing. There's a decent although not all that clean Terma right down Rua Siquiera Campos from the beach in Copa. It's like one block down and is right accross from the park there. It's located directly above a decent looking restaurant on the corner. You would never guess there is a Terma above it, but there is. The entrance is not on Siquiera Campos, but on the side street between the restaurant and the park. It's the open door directly after the restaurant with a stairway leading up to the Club. It's hit and miss, but I found a hot girl and it was cheap. My friend told me I actually got stiffed with the gringo price and it should have been like R95 or something for an hour. I know this report is a little half assed, but I'll probably go back in the next few days, so If you want clearer directions and more clarity on the price scale pm me and I'll get that for you.I pass this place all the time. It always looks seedy / creepy LOL. Never had the courage to go in, especially with MC right around the corner!

Poucolouco
10-09-11, 17:11
I pass this place all the time. It always looks seedy / creepy LOL. Never had the courage to go in, especially with MC right around the corner!Azulzinho 22 is one of the Econo-sex sites of Copacabana. The name is derived from the original baby blue color of the building. It's more like bar with a pool table, jukebox and cubicles than a true termas. It is as Cartman said, as seedy on the inside as the entrance would suggest. One positive aspect is that it opens early, around 13:00 – 14:00. Staff quality is mediocre to average.

Safado69
10-09-11, 19:46
Yeah seeing the room for the first time inside 22 killed the mood for me. I had to do the do standing up. Not sure if they wash the sheets but wasn't going to take any chances.

Kid Cisco
10-09-11, 22:33
Also, I was bored as hell very late a couple of nights in the last two weeks and stopped by balcony. I met a very tall, slender Mulata named Rachael. She must be like 5 foot 11 inches, but beautiful and has a real chill presence. I'd never been with a girl taller than me and decided, what the hell. I took her home for R200 and do not at all regret it! She absolutely loves her job and probably stayed about 2 hours with me. Her deep throat was crazy good and I could tell she really enjoyed giving blowjobs. This girl is a completely different person when having sex. It's almost like she's possessed. Her eyes change and the sweetness is replaced by lustful hunger. I got her number and called her over again a few days later. Her performance was amazing both times. If you see her I highly recommend her if you don't mind a girl that tall. I didn't get any pictures but she's hard to miss.Hell,

I am 6'5 and haven't NEVER met one taller than me so far not even in heels LOL, I will be going to Rio sooner rather than later and always go by Balcony for their Frango and fries so I will keep a look out for this tall chick I would love to place those long legs over my shoulders LOL

Kid Cisco

HelpRules
10-10-11, 07:51
I know this isn't the romania thread but did you guys read about the bball player from america that was attacked and killed at the club. Another reminder to be careful in these 3rd world countries. The article: http://globalgrind.com/news/chauncey-hardy-sacred-heart-basketball-player-killed-in-romania-photos

Ipanema Carioca
10-10-11, 10:41
I session with a nice brown skin 20 year old morena who performed well. Problem is the establishment tried to rip me off. I wanted an hour, the lights came on within 30 minutes. I had my watch on and knew when we started. They played the no english-dumb gringo routine. This is why I use Amex 99% of the time while traveling. Then I found they charged me for an hour. No problem! I called Amex when I returned, and after an investigative period I got reimbursed and got free pussy. To hell with that place for trying to charge me R$275 as if they were a termas.

Ipanema Carioca
10-10-11, 10:47
I really don't see why anyone would go to Solarium over MC or even L'Uomo. Or the centro casas.

-CartmanSolarium is the one terma I visited in many visits to Rio and never fucked a girl. Why, because the desk lady told me that the big room was not available but I can have a smaller at the same price."SAY That again please," I asked. I got dress and left.

Kid Cisco
10-10-11, 16:51
Solarium is the one terma I visited in many visits to Rio and never fucked a girl. Why, because the desk lady told me that the big room was not available but I can have a smaller at the same price."SAY That again please," I asked. I got dress and left.Well, I always make a trip to Solaruim at least 2-3 times a trip mainly because they have MANY big booty Blondes there that will allow me to butt fuck them so to me flying 9 hours is worth a trip there to check out the blondes. As far as loud Brazilians guys wearing towels / ropes around their waist or them grab asses I really could care less I always wonder WHY so many gringos worry so much about how other guys act in their own country?

I am there to pay for ass from hot chicks what I care about what some other dude do?

Also a few years ago I had the girl at the desk at Solarium UPGRADE me to the VIP room for a standard room fee because the other bigger room wouldn't be ready for a few hours because some trick book another hour with his chick. So they have look out for me.

Kid Cisco

Simpleminded
10-10-11, 23:32
I came to Rio back on Sept 16. I got there late Friday night and did not go anyplace until Saturday.

Saturday night I went to Luomo. I think it was around 7 or 8pm. The place was not very busy although about 4 or 5 guys were just leaving.

As for the girls, there were faces I recognized from my last trip almost 2 years ago. The tall girl Bia and the girl with the 1980's platinum pornstar hairstyle. I forget her name. From what I heard Ingrid is no longer in the business. Maybe this is temporary. The newer girls did not really catch my attention. I went with Nathalia who I have been doing since she started 3 years ago. I had a great time with her. Still, Luomo did not seem as busy as it should have been for a Saturday. Of course it's off season too. I don't remember the total for 40 minutes and drinks but I think it was around 375R.

Sunday I planned to go to MC. I head over there around 9pm and they are closed. Damn, I though I read something on the forum about them being closed on Sundays during off season. I should have paid more attention. I didn't really want to hit Luomo again so I just went to eat and skipped the termas.

Monday I went to 4x4. I got there around 6pm. It was pretty busy for a Monday. A few girls came over that I wasn't really interested in. Then I saw this tall blonde, pretty face and a bigger than usual ass. She said her name was Brenda and she tried to sell me a threesome with her friend. I wasn't interested in the friend. Brenda did not come and sit down, she just stood up leaning against the table I was sitting at. I talked to her a little but I did not get a very good vibe from her. She said she used to work as the cashier at Solarium and Centaurus. She also said she has a twin sister that works in MC. I thought that was strange because if she really did have a twin, they could make a killing working in the same place. She was just standing around looking for customers and out of the blue, turned around and asked me to buy her a red bull. I told her no and she walked away. Good riddance! I'm sure I dodged a bullet with her. I learned a long time ago on this board that the interview is a great indicator of the experience you will have in the room. It is very true. After I forgot about Brenda I kept seeing this tiny little cute girl with a tiny red skirt. I was checking her out and as usual these girls know right away you are looking at them. She came over and sat down and was very nice and in a good mood. After talking and kissing her for a while we went to the room. Her name is Popcorn. She was great in the bedroom and had a tight little pussy. Afterward back in the boite I offered her a drink and she got a juice and hung out with me for another half hour or so. She was a real doll and highly recommended.

I remember reading the posts about the 4x4 cashiers hitting up gringos only for tips so I was curious to see if I would get hit up. My bill came up to 292R and I gave the young girl who does not speak english 300R. She said something to the old lady there and handed her my 8R change. The old lady says to me in english " ehh 3R is for the tip" ready to hand me just 5R back. I said "what are you talking about?". She said again "the tip is 3R". I said "no" and she gave me the 8R. I think it was Bubba Boy or Cartman who had this happen to him and he told them that they would not try this on a brazillian guy. 3R is not a lot but this is bs because they only try this on the gringos and they try to make it sound like it's mandatory. Don't let them rip you off. I always tip the locker lady, but I don't see why the cashier deserves a tip for all of 30 seconds worth of "work".

Tuesday I went to MC around 6pm. There was one guy sitting on the couch almost all the way at the end by the bar and the column and then there were two guys sitting at the bar. I was sitting in the middle of the couch by myself and all the girls were sitting on the other couch just staring at me trying to catch my eye. I felt like a goldfish in a fishbowl with a bunch of cats outside scheming on me. One by one, some of the girls came over but I was still trying to see all the girls and wait for any I may have missed if they were currently sessioning. There was a pretty blonde tall girl there. So I'm thinking this girl looks like Brenda from 4x4. It must be her twin sister she was talking about. Although she looked great, I figured she must be stuck up like her sister so I avoided her. I had a nice conversation with a thin short white girl with black hair. She spoke fluent english because she said she lived in the US for 6 months. I usually like blondes but I was considering taking her but I still wanted to see what else there was available. The tall blonde girl kept smiling at me but I thought she was going to be a problem like her "sister". After a while she came by and sat down. Her name is Eloa and she spoke almost no english unlike her "sister" who spoke very good english. After talking to her for a while I tried to ask her if she has a sister at 4x4. She said that she did not although she worked there for 4 or 5 months before MC. I asked why she left and she said because of men she knew frequented 4x4 and she did not want to be recognized. She had no idea what I was talking about or what Brenda from 4x4 was saying. Her demeanor and happy mood was nothing like Brenda's so they were not sisters. I still don't understand why the girl from 4x4 would make up this story. Anyway it almost cost me a great experience with a great girl. She was very affectionate and in the room she was an animal. Afterward I was hanging out with her in the boite and asked her if she wanted a drink. She got a juice and said she doesn't drink alcohol. I stayed a few minutes longer then left because I wanted to get to the buffet place before they close.

At the the cashier the total was 397R and I give her 400R. Now I'm sure she is going to try to tax my change. So she prints out my exit receipt and puts it on the counter and then gets on the phone. I don't know if she was really talking to someone or not but she tried to look busy hoping I would just leave. So I stood there looking right at her. She notices and tells me that this is my receipt and I use it to give to the doorman when I leave. I said "yes I know" and I just stood there waiting for my change. Even though she was looking away from me and talking on the phone, she saw I wasn't leaving so she went in to the drawer and gave me my 3R change. I felt good that I am not encouraging this behaviour. If we all do it eventually they won't even try it.

Afterwards I went to the buffet around the corner from the movie theater on Ns Copacabana. It was close to closing and it seems like I was eating the scraps because they were not bringing anything new out. Anyway, the next day and a half I was sick and running to the bathroom every few minutes. Usually the food at that place is good but I think I will make sure I get there a few hours before closing so I don't get some stale or rotten food.

Thursday evening I felt good enough that I wanted to order in. I really wanted to try Camilla or Karem from Starchris. I called them but no one answered. Ok so next I called scortshow. The girl on the phone spoke enough english that I had no problem ordering Agatha for 7pm. She showed up pretty much on time. She had a pretty face but her ass was definitely bigger that the photos and her tits were saggier than the photos. Not terrible but just not the same as the photos. She was good in bed and I had no complaints except she smelled like cigarettes mixed with perfume. She seemed to have some high mileage plus she had a kid. She wasn't bad for the 120R +30R for taxi but I definitely would not spend $300R+ for her in a terma. Does anyone know if Starchris is still in business?

Eric Cartman
10-11-11, 07:48
She had a pretty face but her ass was definitely bigger that the photos and her tits were saggier than the photos. Not terrible but just not the same as the photos. SYeh they all photoshop the hell out of their photos. I had it happen to me with Tammy Moricet. Caveat emptor.

Thanks for the report. Glad you held your ground on tips. It's a principle thing. R$3 is like what these days, US$1. 60? But jeez give a man his change and let him decide. Which recepcionista at MC? The blonde with curly blonde hair?

Eric Cartman
10-11-11, 07:59
As far as loud Brazilians guys wearing towels / ropes around their waist or them grab asses I really could care less I always wonder WHY so many gringos worry so much about how other guys act in their own country?

I am there to pay for ass from hot chicks what I care about what some other dude do?First off, props for the Jamaican patois. Bravo sir! ("What I care about what some other dude do." That's up there with I Love You Man's "I'ma slappin the bass, man! Slappin the bass!" ahahahah.) Well, for what it's worth, it annoys me for a few reasons. One, I am an INTJ (Wikipedia it) so loud, startling noises (like drunken Brazilian guys shouting) [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. Motorcycles and guys driving by with loud music too. That's life. Moving on.

Two, they tend to monopolize the chicks for the duration of their stay. Even though they rarely ever bang the chicks. They grab some hot chicks, sit with them, grope them, buy them some choppes, and keep them out of circulation. So they limit my supply.

Frankly both things would bug me even in my own country. It's not us-vs-them or locals-vs-gringos, it's a behavior thing.

Am I happy for you that it doesn't bother you? Sure am. Wish I could be there with you. But I'm not. So there's my explanation. Unless your question was rhetorical.

Honestly, I am not a big fan of the big-bunda loiras at Solarium. I like fit slim girls or fit big girls. Too many saggy bellies for me there. Which is great for you, as you love the place. So the Cartman is not all up in your biznez. Therefore more for you! Bravo sir. Head on down and knock yourself out. As the Cartman will be in warmer climes. With chicks who, to me, seem to have a better attitude as well.

Peace out.

-C.

PS the chick I banged at Solarium was true to her word, and got my ex-favorite (now at Centaurus) to call me the next day. Damn that's some rare shit here in Rio. I had to try to explain to said ex-fav why I didn't want to pay C prices to see her. She didn't seem to get it. Different world for these girls.

Bubba Boy
10-11-11, 16:46
Many Termas have banned the "robe around the waste" look, in fact only 4x4 specifically allows it. Solarium usually does not. T65 has a few signs around that says Robes must be worn in the Boate at all times. MC and Luomo will not tolerate it. My point is, it is wrong to say that just Cartman doesn't particularly like it. Many Brazilians do not like it as well.

Speaking of 4x4. Was there last night. It was very quiet, in fact most places are really slow now. All the girls are complaining that there just isn't the business to go around. I guess it will pick up at Christmas. 502 is a complete waste of time now. Really dead there. Last year it was the same until December, then it really picked up.

Devilspinkick
10-11-11, 21:24
"I was checking her out and as usual these girls know right away you are looking at them. She came over and sat down and was very nice and in a good mood. After talking and kissing her for a while we went to the room. Her name is Popcorn."

Ah yes, her name is Pipoca (popcorn in English). Sexy little dame. I've had some good times with her. Nice to know that she's still at 4X4, though on my last trip I made it a point not to go with her because she was dominating all my time there and of course I want to spend time with other garotas at that Termas. Maybe we'll hook up during my next trip.

- DSK

Simpleminded
10-11-11, 22:11
Yeh they all photoshop the hell out of their photos. I had it happen to me with Tammy Moricet. Caveat emptor.

Thanks for the report. Glad you held your ground on tips. It's a principle thing. R$3 is like what these days, US$1. 60? But jeez give a man his change and let him decide. Which recepcionista at MC? The blonde with curly blonde hair?I don't really remember if she was blonde. I don't think she was. The only cashier I know by face is the one in Luomo because she has been there as long as I can remember.

Euro100
10-12-11, 06:58
I don't really remember if she was blonde. I don't think she was. The only cashier I know by face is the one in Luomo because she has been there as long as I can remember.OK, that is actually the answer that EC was looking for. Because if you had been paying your bill with the blonde one, you would definitely remember her. She is fantastically beautiful and would make a killing if she ever decided to work in the boite.

HelpRules
10-12-11, 12:37
Here is why you should never marry a escort. This guy marries his escort and then she tries to have him killed for his money. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5512655-504083.html

Lorenzo
10-12-11, 16:04
Here is why you should never marry a escort. This guy marries his escort and then she tries to have him killed for his money.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5512655-504083.htmlI read the article, but where does it say she was an escort? And what does this have to do with Brazil?

HelpRules
10-12-11, 16:53
He said during the trial that he hired her as a escort and then they dated. I posted it because we had a long thread about marrying these girls from the termas recently. I though I would remind people how dumb the idea is.

Bubba Boy
10-12-11, 18:18
Anyone on the ground in Rio today? At 2pm it is so foggy that visibility is maybe 500 yards. Cold too. From our apartment, which is 500 yards from the beach, I can see the sand but not the water. Very strange.

PatmarBeleza1
10-12-11, 21:34
I think that these discussions about how dumb a relationship attempt is actually is very helpful, and it sounds like there are a lot of list members who have made the mistake confusing the topic of this website with something more.

Like those list members who criticize "chit chat," I also prefer the pictures (I've posted all of mine!) , but this sanity check is helpful too.

One of the Brazilians on the gpguia signs his posts: They are all working girls. Get out of fantasyland and really think about it.


He said during the trial that he hired her as a escort and then they dated. I posted it because we had a long thread about marrying these girls from the termas recently. I though I would remind people how dumb the idea is.

Exec Talent
10-12-11, 21:48
I read the article, but where does it say she was an escort? And what does this have to do with Brazil?My observation is that most of these posts are from guys who feel in love with a GDP who then took him for one ride or another. It is sort of like going to the doctor and saying -- Doc, I have a friend who has herpes is there anything you can recommend for treating it and by the way, do you have any free samples?

Ipanema Carioca
10-12-11, 23:06
My observation is that most of these posts are from guys who feel in love with a GDP who then took him for one ride or another. It is sort of like going to the doctor and saying -- Doc, I have a friend who has herpes is there anything you can recommend for treating it and by the way, do you have any free samples?GDP are for fucking and not marrying.

Poucolouco
10-12-11, 23:18
My observation is that most of these posts are from guys who feel in love with a GDP who then took him for one ride or another. It is sort of like going to the doctor and saying -- Doc, I have a friend who has herpes is there anything you can recommend for treating it and by the way, do you have any free samples?. And the doctor replies,"sure, take your friend out of your pants so I can diagnose it and prescribe an appropriate medication."

Eric Cartman
10-13-11, 02:42
Today is a national holiday in Brazil. Nossa Senhora de Aparecida or something. And it's like the 260th anniversary of Banco do Brasil. Look at that, nearly 3 centuries of fucking over the consumer, good job guys! Anyway, we worked all day so around 8pm I checked out to walk over to Monte Carlo. Which was closed. Sad panda.

Not wanting to let my 1. 5 pills of V go to waste, I headed for L'Uomo. Packed inside, maybe 15-20 guys. Probably the only open place. Walked into the bathroom to shower and there are 4 Asian guys (Chinese?) standing by the sink smoking cigarettes. So. (1) how addicted to nicotine are you that you hang out with your buddies in robes in front of 2 shitters, just to have a hit; and (2) move the fuck out of my way. Seriously they wouldn't move and I had to push past them. Ugh.

Probably 20 or so girls in the boate. None were really doable to me. Thought I'd sit down and ride it out to see what talent emerged. Some large mulatta sat next to me and asks if she can have a drink of my water. From the bottle. I'm like, um, sure if you get a cup. She's like,"Well can you buy me another water?" And I looked shocked and said "You want me to buy you a water for no reason?" She said I could make up a reason. I'm like, um maybe later. So I'm looking around and really my brothers, I tell you the talent level is low. Lots of chub-chub and chicks who really have no business in a bikini. Or a one-piece, which many are wearing and should tell you something.

I finally see the girl I boned last time. Maluu or something. And I'm tempted this late in the game. She sits with me a bit but I explain I haven't decided yet and I don't want to get in her way. Seriously like 10 mins later she is sucking face with some Asian dude and they are off to the cabine within another 5 mins. Shrug. Headed out to face the piper: R$70 for my shower (entrada) and R$5 for my water. Ack.

I'm talking to the receptionist and explaining that I was "without luck" today. She's like, why? And I explain that after a year of living her, I'm a bit more accustomed to things. She says "Yeah, you become more critical especially when you see really hot girls outside here on the street." I'm like, you got it sister!

I really can't justify paying Tier 1 terma prices for below average chicks. Especially when you can get some great girls, with effort and time, who come over for between R$0-R$200 and stay several hours and hang out. Just last night a girl I know from MC waited in Copa for me until 10pm when I left work, just to have a drink and a bite to eat with me. I would have tried for more, but I was exhausted. I have no idea why she hangs out with me. I don't pay her a lot. But she's cool. So I weigh that vs. Nights like tonight.

-Cartman

Mr Enternational
10-13-11, 02:56
Today is a national holiday in Brazil. Nossa Senhora de Aparecida or something. And it's like the 260th anniversary of Banco do Brasil. Look at that, nearly 3 centuries of fucking over the consumer, good job guys!LOL. Dia das criancas (kids day) nao e?

Exec Talent
10-13-11, 03:03
GDP are for fucking and not marrying.What I am trying to understand is why this point needs to be made over and over and over and over again.

Who are you and a bunch of others trying to convince?

Like I said, it is more like guys who fell in love and got taken feeling a need to get even than a warning. Otherwise why the need to repeat this every two. Three weeks?

Exec Talent
10-13-11, 03:10
LOL. Dia das criancas (kids day) nao e?Today was the day and there were presents all around. I went to buy a scooter and they were all sold out. Kids were off school. Trust me, it is a much bigger holiday than father's day which hardly anyone celebrates (25% of Brazilians don't even have a father listed on their birth certificate).

Bank of Brazil is on strike and their offices are closed. So is the post office from what I understand. Just one more excuse why Brazilians aren't paying their bills.

Eric Cartman
10-13-11, 03:27
LOL. Dia das criancas (kids day) nao e?Yes, that as well. It is a 3-in-1 holiday today!

Bravo
10-13-11, 04:23
One of my friends in Rio swears that they shut down the kitchens in the Marriott and the Sofitel hotel because they were serving food that was past its expiration date and a number of tourists had complained about being sick after eating there. This scared the shit out of me because if they can serve old food in the high end hotels in Copa, imagine how fucked up the food is in places like Monchique, Galeao or Kice Suco!

Sperto
10-13-11, 06:50
One of my friends in Rio swears that they shut down the kitchens in the Marriott and the Sofitel hotel because they were serving food that was past its expiration date and a number of tourists had complained about being sick after eating there. This scared the shit out of me because if they can serve old food in the high end hotels in Copa, imagine how fucked up the food is in places like Monchique, Galeao or Kice Suco!
The hotels were Marriot, Sofitel, Pestana and Rio Othon Palace.
http://www.rac.com.br/noticias/nacional/100973/2011/10/10/policia-encontra-comida-estragada-em-hoteis-do-rj.html

I shouldn't worry about eating out as long as it's popular places like Porcão, Aipo Aipim, Big Nectar, Kice Suco etc.

HelpRules
10-13-11, 09:23
For the guys that went to Brazil in the 80's or 90's- what do you think of all the talk of the girls in brazil getting fatter. Is it just guys getting spoiled or are they really alot fatter than they were back then.

Camelot13
10-13-11, 13:54
I have been reading the forum for a while and I am surprised that I am the only person who like Barbarella's, Ciccolini (?) or Erotika. I probably run around to these places less, only going once or twice a month but I love them. I go out with friends and after having a great night that ends a bit early, I then run through a couple of these places. Or when I have some gringos in town, we head over there. Even Barbarella's is suffering from a talent drought but it is rare that you don't see some real stunners.

In a few more years the Copa scene will be dead at the rate it is declining, and then I will have to find a new place to live.

Bubba Boy
10-13-11, 16:06
The hotels were Marriot, Sofitel, Pestana and Rio Othon Palace.

http://www.rac.com.br/noticias/nacional/100973/2011/10/10/policia-encontra-comida-estragada-em-hoteis-do-rj.html

I shouldn't worry about eating out as long as it's popular places like Porcão, Aipo Aipim, Big Nectar, Kice Suco etc.This is a very common occurance in Rio. They bust places all the time, Suco Bars are probably the worst offenders. It is actually quite common for people in their houses to eat food that has gone past the expiry date, so I guess the same workers that toil at the local eateries don't think twice about it. As long as the food smells ok they will eat it, even if it is past its expiry date.

Eric Cartman
10-13-11, 17:37
I have been reading the forum for a while and I am surprised that I am the only person who like Barbarella's, Ciccolini (?) or Erotika. I probably run around to these places less, only going once or twice a month but I love them. I go out with friends and after having a great night that ends a bit early, I then run through a couple of these places. Or when I have some gringos in town, we head over there. Even Barbarella's is suffering from a talent drought but it is rare that you don't see some real stunners.

In a few more years the Copa scene will be dead at the rate it is declining, and then I will have to find a new place to live.Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you provide more useful details about your recent visits to these places? Like: what were the asking prices for what time / service, what did you end up negotiating / paying, what services were provided, etc?

Last time I was in barbarella a 7/10 chick wanted r500 as her ask and wouldn't budge even after I explained in live here and never pay more than r200.

I think you can find hotter chicks on hotside for r300.

So that would be great if you can post some details. Thanks

Prosal
10-14-11, 09:20
One of my friends in Rio swears that they shut down the kitchens in the Marriott and the Sofitel hotel because they were serving food that was past its expiration date and a number of tourists had complained about being sick after eating there.Reason is more greed and corruption than carelessness (deals passed between cuisine crews and suppliers). Brasilians greediness has no limits. They are the most untrustworthy people on the planet IMO.

Holy shit. Poisonned food even in fives stars hotels. And not in just one, but in four. Rio, what a shithole.

Camelot13
10-14-11, 13:11
Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you provide more useful details about your recent visits to these places? Like: what were the asking prices for what time / service, what did you end up negotiating / paying, what services were provided, etc?

Last time I was in barbarella a 7/10 chick wanted r500 as her ask and wouldn't budge even after I explained in live here and never pay more than r200.

I think you can find hotter chicks on hotside for r300.

So that would be great if you can post some details. ThanksI pay 300. 500R for a session. That usually lasts about 2-3 hours. My typical is to go over there and find a girl or two and go to a motel for the remainder of the night. Services are all over the board but my needs are pretty vanilla so honestly I have never bothered to ask. I used to love Help and these places have a little of that feel left. Obviously, you are getting a pro but it is more of a GFE. I have dated in Brazil and I can do ok. So when sport fucking, I want a stunner.

The quality of girl is closer to Barra Vips. The person I know who works on Hotside uses 4 year old photos. She gets good reviews on Gp Guia so no one seems to mind but the idea irks me.

Abzsafado
10-14-11, 14:07
They are definitely fatter, or in some cases more muscular. Even the government admits it.


For the guys that went to Brazil in the 80's or 90's- what do you think of all the talk of the girls in brazil getting fatter. Is it just guys getting spoiled or are they really alot fatter than they were back then.

Prosal
10-14-11, 14:49
They are definitely fatter, or in some cases more muscular. Even the government admits it.Right. Even gouverment admits that obesity touches more than 23% of the population.

Camelot13
10-14-11, 18:36
Right. Even gouverment admits that obesity touches more than 23% of the population.Been coming to Brazil for 7 years and I have definitely noticed it. You would almost never see anyone in a normal crowd that was heavy and now the whol e middle class is big.

Frenchieboy
10-15-11, 00:05
I pay 300. 500R for a session. That usually lasts about 2-3 hours. My typical is to go over there and find a girl or two and go to a motel for the remainder of the night. Services are all over the board but my needs are pretty vanilla so honestly I have never bothered to ask. I used to love Help and these places have a little of that feel left. Obviously, you are getting a pro but it is more of a GFE. I have dated in Brazil and I can do ok. So when sport fucking, I want a stunner.

The quality of girl is closer to Barra Vips. The person I know who works on Hotside uses 4 year old photos. She gets good reviews on Gp Guia so no one seems to mind but the idea irks me.I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl) , that was my third trip here in the last 2 years

I am in BAlcony since the begining of this week and there are not many beautiful girls as usual but you are lucky like me you

Can find some really nice girls (for me only 3or 4 per night) tonight my last night here and I will spend another night with the same girl for 400reals.

What is different now in Balcony it's that they always want to give more drinks when yours is empty so drink slowly!

Sorry for my bad english I will write a longer report when I will be back home

HelpRules
10-15-11, 02:19
What do you think is the cause. They had fast food back in the day. The beaches were there. Did they just quit walking.

Ipanema Carioca
10-15-11, 08:20
I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl) , that was my third trip here in the last 2 years

I am in BAlcony since the begining of this week and there are not many beautiful girls as usual but you are lucky like me you

Can find some really nice girls (for me only 3or 4 per night) tonight my last night here and I will spend another night with the same girl for 400reals.

What is different now in Balcony it's that they always want to give more drinks when yours is empty so drink slowly!

Sorry for my bad english I will write a longer report when I will be back homeMan you paid R$400 for a girl at Balconi. 10p-10a! Sad, Balconi gdp are not worth over R$150, and Brasileiros say that's too much.

Kid Cisco
10-15-11, 09:22
First off, props for the Jamaican patois. Bravo sir! ("What I care about what some other dude do." That's up there with I Love You Man's "I'ma slappin the bass, man! Slappin the bass!" ahahahah.) Well, for what it's worth, it annoys me for a few reasons. One, I am an INTJ (Wikipedia it) so loud, startling noises (like drunken Brazilian guys shouting) [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. Motorcycles and guys driving by with loud music too. That's life. Moving on.

Two, they tend to monopolize the chicks for the duration of their stay. Even though they rarely ever bang the chicks. They grab some hot chicks, sit with them, grope them, buy them some choppes, and keep them out of circulation. So they limit my supply.

Frankly both things would bug me even in my own country. It's not us-vs-them or locals-vs-gringos, it's a behavior thing.

Am I happy for you that it doesn't bother you? Sure am. Wish I could be there with you. But I'm not. So there's my explanation. Unless your question was rhetorical.

Honestly, I am not a big fan of the big-bunda loiras at Solarium. I like fit slim girls or fit big girls. Too many saggy bellies for me there. Which is great for you, as you love the place. So the Cartman is not all up in your biznez. Therefore more for you! Bravo sir. Head on down and knock yourself out. As the Cartman will be in warmer climes. With chicks who, to me, seem to have a better attitude as well.

Peace out.Well the Kid Cisco have some rules too and that is the female will always choose who she wants to be with PERIOD! And I don't care WHERE in the world you go and I have been places around the world and lived around the world when I was station in the Navy I would go to night clubs, bars, malls you name it I seen NBA players and OBESE short business guys run up in chicks faces and watch females diss them and turn their backs and walk away from them ONLY to step up to a guy they find to be cute or fine. Just because some NBA player or NFL player make some millions or you have some geeky NERD with 300 reals and a free entrance pass in his pocket and he is boring as hell to be around and can't make them laugh without sounding corny or goofy guess who the chick is going to want to be around?

If she have to be in a place 8-10 hours a day and have her bills paid up she is going to want to be around guys or a group of males she want to get a good LOUD laugh and talk and play around with rather than be with some geeky gringo that just want to ask do she take it up the ass? Or do she take a cum shot in the face LOL LOL

You see I been going to Brazil since the late 70's and to other places around the world I stand 6'5 barefoot and I keep myself fit in shape and don't have some beer BELLY I am always groom to the "nines" so I just stand by myself and IF some chick is with some Brazilian dude or with some geeky NERD trust me! When I say this EACH time the " Kid Cisco" MAKES EYE CONTACT with that chick or any chick I am interested in and she makes EYE CONTACT with me and she likes what she sees trust me she will find a reason to get up and get away from that trick and make her way to me either she just tells the guy she sees a friend she have to say Hello, to or she have to go to the restroom or hell she just get up and step away and CHOOSE ME! To talk to I have had girls slip me their number when they give me a hung and kiss or the cheeks. These girls are smart and NOT shy when they see what they like.

Hell, its NOT some we vs them with me I don't think of myself as some dumb ass goofy NERDY gringo that don't get ass BUT a few times a year when he is on vacation in some other country paying for ass. I get ass NO MATTER where I am. In the states (Vegas, NYC, LA) etc. Or in Spain DR Colombia Costa Rica etc. There are MANY chicks in Rio to pick from IF a chick makes EYE CONTACT with me and I smile or wink at her its up to HER to CHOOSE if she wants to come with me or not or stay there with the trick she is with. IF she wants to laugh for hours and drink his choopes he brought her guess what? That is up to her! He doesn't have a gun up beside her head forcing her to stay there and EVEN if he doesn't session with her that's up to HER to decide.

I won't NEVER pour salt on another player game or in this case another trick game. And I will NEVER fight over some nameless faceless hooker I may NOT ever see again. Like I told me before IF I lived in Rio I may not EVER step foot in some Termas I have may 1st week full with dimes I met on Facebook RIGHT NOW I asked for a friend request they look and view my pictures of me looking fit and good and dress to the nines they like what they see they are always hitting me up trying to chat with me when they see me online.

Look it's the same way in strip clubs these strippers can look and see a guy that NEVER go to strip clubs put once or twice a year (like THE KID CISCO) LOL and step to me pull up a chair and talk without asking for choopes to drink or asking me to take her to VIP. She knows she want to see me outside the club or not and either she slip me her number or she don't there will ALWAYS be fat OBESE lonely horny tricks that will spend their paycheck on her.

Hell, IF I lived in Rio and Termas chicks always see me running up in the Termas handing over my 400-500reals and free entrance pass she will feel hell he either a loser or something is wrong with him, hell I work my ass off at times 10-12 hours a day and still find time to hit the gym go running and still go out on dates and have a main lady. Hell (THE DONALD) Trump runs hotels etc. He still found time to date and get married a few times LOL so there is NO excuse. Hell get a B-12 shot or drink a 5 hour drink or something LOL

And as for BIG BUNDA blonds at Solarium I don't care for OBESE belly chicks either and (the Kid Cisco) sure as hell not going to fly 9 hours to pay to fuck them either and I DON'T LOVE the place I do like or will go there and check out the place you see (the kid Cisco) doesn't live in Rio and I have a limit amount of time to be in Rio so guess what? I am going to check out a few places most of the girls I met on facebook will see me after work so in the mornings I will work out and shop and see what I can pick up at the malls also I know a few guys that have retired and live in Rio and they NEVER I repeat NEVER go to the termas they told me when they 1st came to Rio they would run up in the termas all the time (that last for a short period of time weeks to a month or so) and than they are sitting up their play list LOL LOL

To keep it 100% I wouldn't want to hang out or be around anyone that lived in a country 24/7 for years and ALL they knew or went to were termas / Spas and couldn't roll up in some nice night spots or clubs or lounges and pick up chicks or knew chicks they wasn't ex hookers etc. That just (the Kid Cisco) take because I know IF a dude came to my city I could take him to spots that he didn't have to pay by the hour to be with a chick. PUT let me say this I am not hating or putting down cats that do this some guys and I realize some guys have NEVER found their game. I know guys that played in the NFL and if it wasn't for their pockets they would NEVER get ass. LOL

And IF LOUD music such as "Slappin the Bass" annoy you guess what? Going to Termas with LOUD music and lound laughing slapping ass Brazilians annoy you maybe going to Termas isn't for you maybe try hitting up lounges and meeting fly smart chicks on facebook those that have REAL jobs working at hotels, or working for the airlines or banks or going to school or working or owning a store in the mall those are some of the chicks I have met over the years get in shape post some pictures on face book of yourself and see how many chicks hit on you.

Peace out.

The Kid Cisco

Sperto
10-15-11, 09:35
I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl)...
Christmas comes early for the Balcony girls.

Prosal
10-15-11, 10:01
What do you think is the cause. They had fast food back in the day. The beaches were there. Did they just quit walking.This is a trend everywhere in SA (save maybe in Argentina) and in Carribeans. In Colombia too, seems that many women are potbellied and with rather fat asses. Also keep in mind that the average height in Brasil is low (5'2" for women) , which plays a role in the BMI calculation. The roads are definitely not paved with tall and slender beauties in this part of the world.

Euro100
10-15-11, 12:31
Gentlemen,

It is a time-honored tradition in this part of the forum to chew out a guy if he overpaid. But really, it adds nothing to the forum to make some snide or sarcastic remarks, or to question somebody else intelligence or manhood or whatever, pointing out that he was had. Yes, there is a bit of a function in the price discussion in that it establishes an accepted baseline. But that can already be had much better and more concise by reading Bubba Boy's Rio guide or consulting Sperto's list of centro places.

And there are a few things to consider:

1. Attacking people on the price they paid for services will just discourage future honest post from them and others. Whatever they paid, they already paid. Nothing changes that at the time of posting. Adding insult to injury is not needed and not productive.

2. The value of a session can be freely negotiated with freelancers. And there are many many considerations that go into this. Time constraints, competition from other males, visual appeal and age (of both participants in the transaction) , special needs, nervousness, monetary supply on the buyer side, amount of alcohol consumed prior, personal connection felt, lack or abundance of other options (again, on both sides) , language skills, flirting skills, perhaps even dancing skill, nervousness, whatever.

3. Value is in the eye of the beholder. Look at the comparison to meals: I like eating at kilo places, and I also like eating at places like Marius. Both get you filled with calories, so why is Marius more than 10 times more expensive? Sometimes you are in the mood for a bit more ambiance or whatever, and you pay the higher price. It depends on the circumstances and what you would like out of them. (Fellow board member Christopherd and I once drove this to stupid extremes when we first mongered at VM, but then decided to each blow ~R300 on a long taxi ride and dinner at a very expensive seafood restaurant. I still laugh at how crazy that was, but what is done is done.)

4. Paying a lower price for a given session does not make you a better man. Neither does paying a higher price. It's just what it is, and it all depends.

Satyr23
10-15-11, 13:08
Where can I find Sperto's latest guide?

Kid Cisco
10-15-11, 13:54
With that statement I will add, IF a guy is OBESE or OLDER and broken down with back problems and knee and hip problems and don't look fit nor in good shape. A chick will know it WILL be a lot of work having a session with that guy IF she is a freelancer! She will have to deal with a lot so she will make it worth her time and asked for a HIGH amount 400-500 reals or EVEN MORE! In some cases BUT if the guy is in shape and look good to her and can charm and turn her on and make her laugh she will go for around 200 reals or even 150 reals.

I am always amazed how some tricks will get [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off IF they find out some Terma girl suck a guy without a rubber BUT will NOT suck another guy or will do anal with one guy and NOT with another, ALL you can control is your time and money once you interview a chick and she gives you some fuck up answers or come off as a BITQH! Maybe she is trying to turn you off so you will take a walk? So she won't have to do a session with you? (this is ONLY if she is a Terma chick).

The girls at the Balcony can pick and choose who they want or will be with so she will either tell you a normal avg. Price of 150-200 reals or she will tell you some price to either get you to run and walk away or say yes and she will make it worth her time so when you hear 400-500 reals she is saying I will charge you a lot because I don't like you. LOL

So, guys go down to Rio and look good loose the beer belly and find a chick that want to be with you and she will give you a good offer, I use to go to Club Help with some Terma girls when they got off work I would pay them 150 reals for the night whenever they would go to the restroom there would always be some clown with some cowboy hat on or with some pot belly and would offer them 400-500 reals to be with them LOL they would either walk away or tell them don't or can't you see I am with someone? And you MUST not be nothing back in your country and money don't impress me, and they would come back to me and tell me that chick I would look over at the clown and laugh with my size and height they guys would mostly leave the Club holding their head down.

The fact of the matter is this IF you have a hard time picking up chicks in the states guess what? You will have a hard time picking up chicks overseas without spending a arm and leg on sex.

Kid Cisco

Camelot13
10-15-11, 14:52
What do you think is the cause. They had fast food back in the day. The beaches were there. Did they just quit walking.They did not have much fast food even a few years ago. The diet of the average Brazilian was pretty much the same rice and beans all over. The foods available have really expanded. Just look in Ipanema and see all the new restaurants. We now can eat Spanish, Mexican, Tex mex, Thai and all within a few blocks. Add in Subway, KFC, McDonalds, Big Bobs etc. This is one the big trends in Brazil, the expansion of their food choices. Try to get a table at Outback.

Exec Talent
10-15-11, 15:33
I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl)I have been to Balcony a few times over the last two weeks including the night the owner had his birthday party (free food for the girls and broke ass gringos who embarrassingly piled their plates as high as possible) and there was not one doable girl there. Not one. Candidly, the worse I have ever seen.

Even with the other options available, if I didn't have other interests, there is no way I would pay $1000+ airfare to travel to Rio for this pay for play scene. There are plenty of hot girls all around Rio, just not working girls. Used to be all you had to do was walk up and down Copacabana beach mid-afternoon and you would be approached by at least five doable girls. Now. Nothing. I have noticed that even the number of girls selling their services at night around the cars on Ave. Atlantica is significantly down.

Blame the economy. With all that is going on in Rio, even the girls from the north zone can find normal jobs.

Camelot13
10-15-11, 16:22
Man you paid R$400 for a girl at Balconi. 10p-10a! Sad, Balconi gdp are not worth over R$150, and Brasileiros say that's too much.I picked up a GP in Don Juan's a few months ago for $R150. I am a little fuzzy on where it is. Rua Duvivvier (?) and down the ally half down the block of the beach. It is very rough inside but out of the few girls there, I would have done 2 or 3. Then add in that they are only $R150.

The downside was I took her to the Lido motel on Nossa Senhora. Got overcharged so they kicked her back some cash when we left. Nice for her but less good for me. She was nice enough to share the amount. They gave her $80 back so I was way overcharged.

I see tons of Brasileiros complaining about the price of GP's. I think the gringo tax has pretty much gone to everyone now.

Exec Talent
10-15-11, 17:27
I picked up a GP in Don Juan's a few months ago for $R150. I am a little fuzzy on where it is. Rua Duvivvier (?) and down the ally half down the block of the beach. It is very rough inside but out of the few girls there, I would have done 2 or 3. Then add in that they are only $R150.

The downside was I took her to the Lido motel on Nossa Senhora. Got overcharged so they kicked her back some cash when we left. Nice for her but less good for me. She was nice enough to share the amount. They gave her $80 back so I was way overcharged.

I see tons of Brasileiros complaining about the price of GP's. I think the gringo tax has pretty much gone to everyone now.This has been going on as long as I remember. I became friends with the manager at Vanity and used to joke with him when he tried to slip an envelope surreptitiously to the GDP I had brought from Help. After we got to know each other he gave me a much lower price and the envelope never came out. The idea is that it compensates the GDP for bringing a client to a particular motel.

Eric Cartman
10-15-11, 18:47
hit mc friday night. not nearly as crowded as last friday night (which was after payday). maybe 3-4 dudes in the whole place. i had a long week at work including 1 night til 3am. was ready to be taken care of. saw jasmine and honed in. i've written about her bbbj skills before and that was what i was looking for. she also asked me last time why i never was a trooper for her pooper, so we put that on the menu.

took an hour in the suite. raved her cuzinho in doggy. "com muito raiva" as she put it (angrily? hah). came twice in her mouth and both times she swallowed it all and kept on sucking like a good girl. fun times! her tits are a little saggy and she's a little older, but she's great in the room. really a pro and fun. spotlessly clean. she even gave me a little massage at the end. and we had a laugh as i tried to pronounce "almonds" in porto (amendoas?).

that plus a water ran me r$375. entrada is r$80 these days. i think it used to be r$70 but i'm too lazy to look up my old reports haha.

i had my free entrada this time.

sat in the sauna a bit (it's pretty good, i like 65's too) and then showered up and headed home. ate a dinner that explains why brazilians are getting fat (and cartman's getting larger) : kibe with molho de pimento, espetinha de frango, abacaxi com hortela, e acai com granola. good stuff. technically i think the kibe is just a delivery mechanism for the molho de pimenta haha.

could i have gotten equivalent service somewhere else for way cheaper? probably. but mc is convenient and i like the environment. so my r$375 isn't far from that other dude's r$400 and maybe his balcony girl was that crazy in the sack to make it all worthwhile. on the other hand, as bubba notes, there are plenty of girls here who, with time, will come over for between free and r$200 and rock your world. i've been nailing a lithe little porn-star type who hangs out a few hours, loves it in the cu, and generally is nasty and does things like standing doggie on my terrace. so it's a big mix of opportunities.

still, if i didn't live here, i'd bet better value and hotter chicks are to be found in fkks these days (us 1. 3 per euro?) and thailand (floods aside).

-cartman

Ipanema Carioca
10-15-11, 20:08
The girls at the Balcony can pick and choose who they want or will be with so she will either tell you a normal avg. Price of 150-200 reals or she will tell you some price to either get you to run and walk away or say yes and she will make it worth her time so when you hear 400-500 reals she is saying I will charge you a lot because I don't like you. LOLThere are no absolutes. There are gdp in Balconi and Rio whose ego surpasses her business skills, like men whose bargaining and negotiating skills are weaker to 0.

In comparison to his laziness and / or stupidity. First, a man should not approach a girl in a working girl's environment if he wants to get laid, example, guys who walk into a terma and approach girls sitting down with there legs crossed and arms folded. I see dummies making the same mistake at Balconi and the hoes roll their eyes and look at them and say "$R400". Like TA and Help, you wait for the right moment when the girls need a place to sleep, they hate their crowded apartment or live too far, and you bargain orshe goes home broke to a crowded apartment or sleep on the beach for Nova Iguacu is too far. It has nothing to do with your looks in a #Road WORLS COUNTRY.

Eric Cartman
10-15-11, 21:32
There was a great scene in Boardwalk Empire last week. HBO's show about Prohibition-era Atlantic City. The solider / hit-man Richard, who has a disfigured face post WWI, had gotten friendly/ intimate with a working girl at Al Capone's bordello in Chicago. Capone is visiting the boss in Atlantic City, and is left alone for a minute with Richard, who asks "How is Anette?" (or whatever the girl's name was). And Capone, with a look of amused disgust, snaps back."She's a wh0re. That's how she is."

HelpRules
10-15-11, 21:38
Kid Cisco,

I'm jealous. You have been going to Rio since the 70's? That must have been a hell of a time. How many gingos back then. Also, the good thing about the termas is that you can see the body and pick your fav. You can't do that at the regular clubs. You really can't tell if they look good until the clothes come off. Whats wrong with going to the termas and having some of them be your regular away from the club for free or a nominal fee. I imagine if you live there, you will have a better shot at being their boyfriend.

Camelot13
10-15-11, 22:33
This has been going on as long as I remember. I became friends with the manager at Vanity and used to joke with him when he tried to slip an envelope surreptitiously to the GDP I had brought from Help. After we got to know each other he gave me a much lower price and the envelope never came out. The idea is that it compensates the GDP for bringing a client to a particular motel.Yeah first time at that place. I knew when I saw the cute little bag with a bow what was up. It was nice that she didn't get all weird about it. I liked the pricing at Don juaN and quality but the place is a dump.

Bizzie
10-15-11, 23:39
Still, if I didn't live here, I'd bet better value and hotter chicks are to be found in FKKs these days (US 1. 3 per Euro?) and Thailand (floods aside).

-CartmanGood report.

Hotter chicks at FKK? Possibly. Better value? Not likely.

Converse for Thailand.

Euro100
10-16-11, 02:31
Could I have gotten equivalent service somewhere else for way cheaper? Probably.

Still, if I didn't live here, I'd bet better value and hotter chicks are to be found in FKKs these days (US 1. 3 per Euro?).EC, define service! As we all know, you can get a lot more pussy in the casas in centro. But I am completely with you when it comes to visiting upscale termas. For me it's the best service. Service is not just the performance in the sack, but also what they do with you in the boite before and after the deed. I also like to drink with the girls and have a good party atmosphere. And that's where the terma experience has no equivalent. I also love the German FKKs, have just completed a run there. But for me the best Brazilian women are hotter than what I can find at any FKK. And yes, the FKK is cheaper at 50 euro per half hour suck and fuck. But for incredibly real simulated GFE there is no comparison to the Rio terma.

Gfe Finder
10-16-11, 03:06
Good report.

Hotter chicks at FKK? Possibly. Better value? Not likely.

Converse for Thailand.I've done the math, and Brazil is more expensive than Germany (at least the boites / Tier 1 termas vs the Frankfurt FKKs.) At a 2.4:1 BRL:EUR exchange rate, for example:

1 hour at L'uomo + entry = R$320 + R$70 = R$390 = 162.5 €

1 hour at FKK Oase / World + entry = 2 x 50 € + 65 € = 165 €

Drinks / appetizers at L'uomo will almost certainly push the total higher than 165 € though.

Of course, as Euro100 alludes to below there are other advantages to the termas.

Frenchieboy
10-16-11, 14:00
Christmas comes early for the Balcony girls.I think 400 BRL for TLN is not very expensive for a really beautiful girl, very GFE, very funny I think all of you paid about this amount in Termas like MC and more it is Centaurus just for about 40 minutes, and how much you pay for a super garota in Riosexsite ou Barravip website about 300 brl / hour + taxi, in Balcony very very few girls are beautitul but if you like to have a fuck with a big bunda girl with silicon tits I am sure you can do it for 150 max 200 brl and you have full of choice in Balcony, for me if prefer waiting for a nice girl even if it is more expensive. (I have spent Friday night a second night with the same girl and it was terrible!)

Jan 156
10-16-11, 14:21
I've done the math, and Brazil is more expensive than Germany (at least the boites / Tier 1 termas vs the Frankfurt FKKs.) At a 2. 4:1 BRL:EUR exchange rate.

Of course, as Euro100 alludes to below there are other advantages to the termas.The maths aren't hard, but as several people have maybe pointed out, although there are similarities, it really is apples and oranges. For all the benefits of FKKs (if I may generalise) you are going to an industrial estate wasteland backwater miles from town in a cold wet country with no beach and where people hardly ever laugh or dance. I partake a number of boards and don't see why FKK enthusiasts feel a need to invade the boards of many other countries by telling us that they are better value than whatever other country. I like FKKs, but they are not Brasil. Germany is not a holiday destination, Brasil is!

Sperto
10-16-11, 14:29
I think 400 BRL for TLN is not very expensive for a really beautiful girl, very GFE, very funny I think all of you paid about this amount in Termas like MC and more it is Centaurus just for about 40 minutes, and how much you pay for a super garota in Riosexsite ou Barravip website about 300 brl / hour + taxi, in Balcony very very few girls are beautitul but if you like to have a fuck with a big bunda girl with silicon tits I am sure you can do it for 150 max 200 brl and you have full of choice in Balcony, for me if prefer waiting for a nice girl even if it is more expensive. (I have spent Friday night a second night with the same girl and it was terrible!)Go ahead and pay R$400 or the double if you want. It's not my money.

I just could imagine how lucky the Balcony girl must have felt when she got paid R$400. That's doesn't happen every day at Balcony.

Bizzie
10-16-11, 14:48
I've done the math, and Brazil is more expensive than Germany (at least the boites / Tier 1 termas vs the Frankfurt FKKs.) At a 2. 4:1 BRL:EUR exchange rate, for example:

1 hour at L'uomo + entry = R$320 + R$70 = R$390 = 162. 5 €

1 hour at FKK Oase / World + entry = 2 x 50 € + 65 € = 165 €

Drinks / appetizers at L'uomo will almost certainly push the total higher than 165 € though.

Of course, as Euro100 alludes to below there are other advantages to the termas.If one's goal is just to drain the pipes, then your math is correct. But I don't need to got to FKK / Terma just to do that.

Its the 'extras' that matter the most.

Extras can be the party atsmosphere (better at Terma) or the service (CIM, anal).

The variety is better at FKKs with girls form various nationalities.

I have never paid extra for extra services at Termas (at FKK it's another $50-150).

So that makes the Termas better, in terms of pure mathematics. Both places can have mechanical service, so finding GFE depends on your skills and luck.

I recommend people to try both the FKKs and Termas because the experience is quite different.

But, what I like the best is the freelancer scene / clubs. My best times in Brasil, Montreal, Dubai, Thailand have been with freelancers.

Tragically, freelancer scene has pretty much disappeared from Rio.

TheWhoHa
10-16-11, 17:36
As an American living in Germany and traveling in Brazil, I enjoy these reports from both sides.

Thank you!

Gfe Finder
10-16-11, 19:24
I partake a number of boards and don't see why FKK enthusiasts feel a need to invade the boards of many other countries by telling us that they are better value than whatever other countryThis is a fair and reasonable question. So I'll try to give my answer: a.) this is the International Sex Guide, which doesn't have a focus on a particular location or region. So, inter-regional discussions and comparisons are fair game (and they make this board arguably a more interesting read than many other boards on this topic as TheWhoHa alludes to); b.) the service is to some degree standardized (BBBJ, often DFK), as opposed to the negotiation that is commonplace elsewhere; c.) many times (though not always) the FKKs are a better value on a sex-for-money basis. However:


Its the 'extras' that matter the most.

Extras can be the party atsmosphere (better at Terma) or the service (CIM, anal).I have found a great party atmosphere at Bernds in Hennef, Germany but I know that some might disagree with me on that.

Even with that said, there are some experiences you can have in a terma that you just can't find anywhere else in the world. There are some experiences in Brazil that you just can't have elsewhere in the world. Brazil is better known as a Holiday destination and understandably so. And it's hard to put a price on all that. :)

Gfe Finder
10-16-11, 19:32
As an American living in Germany and traveling in Brazil, I enjoy these reports from both sides.

Thank you!You're welcome and thanks for speaking up!

Camelot13
10-16-11, 19:44
Even with that said, there are some experiences you can have in a terma that you just can't find anywhere else in the world. There are some experiences in Brazil that you just can't have elsewhere in the world. Brazil is better known as a Holiday destination and understandably so. And it's hard to put a price on all that. :)I quoted you but it is response to the several posts on this-

Wow I do not find the GFE experience in the termas scene. I probably should explore it more. The main reason I like the clubs more is because of the hanging out and the nicer fun feel of the place.

Rio is a holiday destination for us but the international flights are more Brazilians going other places then people coming to Rio. Try to bring some family to Rio and you quickly get the feel that it is a bit light on tourist stuff. Just an opinion.

Edward M
10-16-11, 19:59
This is a fair and reasonable question. So I'll try to give my answer: a.) this is the International Sex Guide, which doesn't have a focus on a particular location or region. So, inter-regional discussions and comparisons are fair game (and they make this board arguably a more interesting read than many other boards on this topic as TheWhoHa alludes to) ; be.) the service is to some degree standardized (BBBJ, often DFK) , as opposed to the negotiation that is commonplace elsewhere; see.) many times (though not always) the FKKs are a better value on a sex-for-money basis. However:

I have found a great party atmosphere at Bernds in Hennef, Germany but I know that some might disagree with me on that.

Even with that said, there are some experiences you can have in a terma that you just can't find anywhere else in the world. There are some experiences in Brazil that you just can't have elsewhere in the world. Brazil is better known as a Holiday destination and understandably so. And it's hard to put a price on all that. .I have some friends that frequent Rio that also like to go to Germany and they have tried to talk me into going there. On paper it looks good: top end cheaper, cheaper airfare, more ethnic variety, all the girls naked, still has Brazileiras and Latinas, never been there.

The main reason I don't go though is because of all of the German tourists I see in Rio. There was one young man I saw in Rio so much that I thought he lived there. If Germany really is better I cannot understand why so many Germans would go to all the trouble of traveling to Rio.

Exec Talent
10-16-11, 20:45
I have some friends that frequent Rio that also like to go to Germany and they have tried to talk me into going there. On paper it looks good: top end cheaper, cheaper airfare, more ethnic variety, all the girls naked, still has Brazileiras and Latinas, never been there.

The main reason I don't go though is because of all of the German tourists I see in Rio. There was one young man I saw in Rio so much that I thought he lived there. If Germany really is better I cannot understand why so many Germans would go to all the trouble of traveling to Rio.You have little to lose by trying the FKKs at least once. Since you speak Portuguese you will be treated differently than the locals. I have encountered garotas in many places around the world and their warm attitude in public becomes even warmer in private. Just expect to get some jealous looks from the other guys.

The German I think you are talking about, and often see in L'uomo, works in São Paulo.

Carlos Primeros
10-16-11, 21:02
Gentlemen,

I live in Lisbon, travel 5 to 6 times per year to Rio and approx. 20 times per year to Germany.

We have in Lisbon all the Brasilian Bundas you can think of. In the German FKKs you find also all kinds of Latinas. For me the atmosphere counts and nothing beats Rio. The GFE even with a Terma-girl can not be exported to Portugal or Germany. This miracle works only in Rio.

Here in Lisbon you agree with a WG on a service, you do the deed, you pay and you go.

In a German FKK you have certain amenities, have a large choice, you pick, do the deed and you leave and pay.

That is nothing compared to Rio where you have a lot of interaction before and after the deed. That is what makes Rio and the girls tick.

Carlos

Eric Cartman
10-16-11, 21:12
You have little to lose by trying the FKKs at least once. Since you speak Portuguese you will be treated differently than the locals. I have encountered garotas in many places around the world and their warm attitude in public becomes even warmer in private. Just expect to get some jealous looks from the other guys.

The German I think you are talking about, and often see in L'uomo, works in São Paulo.Sadly on my tour of FKKs in 2010 I didn't meet any Brasileiras. Only 1 chick from Dominican Republic who was hot enough to take to a room and bang. Rest were Germans, Romanians (hot but weak in the room) , and a mixture of Polish / Russian / Hungarian. Best fuck was a chick from Africa (Namibia?) who hung out with me outside at Living Room before delivering the goods. Very terma-like. Second-best were a German girl who loved BBBJ (and had the technique to match) , and hung out a lot with me at Samya, along with a cute Russian chick (slightly chub-chub) who had a good attitude at Living Room. Then there was an 18year old or 20year old (forget) thin blonde Hungarian stunner at Ying Yang. Not super GFE, but friendly and what a killer bod. The FKKs worked out great for me and my buddy Churroman with a car. We stayed in Koln or Dusseldorf, drove out to FKKs mid-afternoon, usually got back in time to have a good German beer at night. Sure if you factor in car, petrol, hotel, etc. It was pretty expensive. But we were on vacation and for those two weeks, thankfully, the Euro had sunk to 1. 25 vs the dollar.

Overall I think the quality of the talent was higher than what I have been seeing in Rio these past 6 months. Not sure what has happened here, but it seems like a lot of the hottest chicks have stopped working in the Ts. Either gone to Sao Paulo, shacked up, or gotten a regular gig. It seems that the girls these days come from poorer areas (more Baixada / Nova Iguazu girls than closer parts of Zona Norte). And there tend to be older, more big-bunda chicks at even the Zona Sul Ts. One of my favorite, hot, slim, cu-loving girls cycled through MC, Solarium, and now Centaurus but I just can't bring myself to pay C prices to tap her fine ass. There used to be a lot more like her. Here's hoping the return of summer brings some hotties back into circulation. By the way, Brasil changed time today. Now 2 hrs ahead of NYC, soon to be 3 when the US rolls back in a week or two.

-Cartman

PatmarBeleza1
10-17-11, 02:55
I speculate lack terma talent is due to class the brazilians moving up to class see, etc.

Both females finding better work, and brasileiros being able to afford the best class the brasileiras

But I am sûre the brasileiras will cime back to the termas for all the huge Chinese dick!


Sadly on my tour of FKKs in 2010 I didn't meet any Brasileiras. Only 1 chick from Dominican Republic who was hot enough to take to a room and bang. Rest were Germans, Romanians (hot but weak in the room) , and a mixture of Polish / Russian / Hungarian. Best fuck was a chick from Africa (Namibia?) who hung out with me outside at Living Room before delivering the goods. Very terma-like. Second-best were a German girl who loved BBBJ (and had the technique to match) , and hung out a lot with me at Samya, along with a cute Russian chick (slightly chub-chub) who had a good attitude at Living Room. Then there was an 18year old or 20year old (forget) thin blonde Hungarian stunner at Ying Yang. Not super GFE, but friendly and what a killer bod. The FKKs worked out great for me and my buddy Churroman with a car. We stayed in Koln or Dusseldorf, drove out to FKKs mid-afternoon, usually got back in time to have a good German beer at night. Sure if you factor in car, petrol, hotel, etc. It was pretty expensive. But we were on vacation and for those two weeks, thankfully, the Euro had sunk to 1. 25 vs the dollar.

Overall I think the quality of the talent was higher than what I have been seeing in Rio these past 6 months. Not sure what has happened here, but it seems like a lot of the hottest chicks have stopped working in the Ts. Either gone to Sao Paulo, shacked up, or gotten a regular gig. It seems that the girls these days come from poorer areas (more Baixada / Nova Iguazu girls than closer parts of Zona Norte). And there tend to be older, more big-bunda chicks at even the Zona Sul Ts. One of my favorite, hot, slim, cu-loving girls cycled through MC, Solarium, and now Centaurus but I just can't bring myself to pay C prices to tap her fine ass. There used to be a lot more like her. Here's hoping the return of summer brings some hotties back into circulation. By the way, Brasil changed time today. Now 2 hrs ahead of NYC, soon to be 3 when the US rolls back in a week or two.

-Cartman

PatmarBeleza1
10-17-11, 03:00
Great post.

The international comparisons are really appreciated.

For example, the best tijuana girl is à mid level Rio girl.


This is a fair and reasonable question. So I'll try to give my answer: a.) this is the International Sex Guide, which doesn't have a focus on a particular location or region. So, inter-regional discussions and comparisons are fair game (and they make this board arguably a more interesting read than many other boards on this topic as TheWhoHa alludes to) ; be.) the service is to some degree standardized (BBBJ, often DFK) , as opposed to the negotiation that is commonplace elsewhere; see.) many times (though not always) the FKKs are a better value on a sex-for-money basis. However:

I have found a great party atmosphere at Bernds in Hennef, Germany but I know that some might disagree with me on that.

Even with that said, there are some experiences you can have in a terma that you just can't find anywhere else in the world. There are some experiences in Brazil that you just can't have elsewhere in the world. Brazil is better known as a Holiday destination and understandably so. And it's hard to put a price on all that.

Aibolit
10-17-11, 04:34
Overall I think the quality of the talent was higher than what I have been seeing in Rio these past 6 months. Not sure what has happened here, but it seems like a lot of the hottest chicks have stopped working in the Ts. -CartmanI will soon be in both SP and Rio and am saddened to hear that the talent of Rio girls has dropped. I don't know how it is for others, but I personally can't force myself to spend P2P time with girls with less than attractive optics. In other words, they must be stunners (slender, fit, young) , before I even consider their service, price, etc. Party atmosphere is great, but what good does it do coming from a fat ugly old lady with huge ass and thick thies?

I have been in FKKs and was rarely disappointed with selection in big three of Hessen. Yes. Some of them were machines, while others were GFEs. I belive the same is everywhere in that respect. But, if they are not stunners, I can do non-stunners for free without traveling that far.

Frankly, I'm puzzled now, as to where I can find good P2P times in Brazil, if even in tier 1 termas the stunners are not on the menu.

Aibolit

PatmarBeleza1
10-17-11, 05:04
Salvador?

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http://lainaferraz.********.com/?zx=b8d8d67f6b5c04bd


Frankly, I'm puzzled now, as to where I can find good P2P times in Brazil, if even in tier 1 termas the stunners are not on the menu.

Aibolit

Prosal
10-17-11, 09:20
Frankly, I'm puzzled now, as to where I can find good P2P times in Brazil, if even in tier 1 termas the stunners are not on the menu.

AibolitIf your standards are "FKK standards", you will be very very disappointed in Rio. Same for nightlife. Very limited. Sao Paulo is whole different. Gorgeous working girls, fine P4P establishments, good strip bars, great clubs, unmatched nightlife (only Moscow can compete with Sao Paulo IMO) and the best after-hours pickup disco on the planet, Love Story, a kind of Help but WITH good music, WITHOUT gringos, and WITH hot chicks (with wild partying on their mind).

Prosal
10-17-11, 14:18
For example, the best tijuana girl is à mid level Rio girl.Which says a lot. I wouldn't touch with a 10" pole a "mid-level" Rio prostitute. Note to self: NEVER go to Tijuana. (wink)

Jan 156
10-17-11, 15:49
Salvador?There are a number of people who ask questions repeatedly, say they are visiting, but never post a field report expect to say that the standard of girls outside of FKK or Eastern Europe is good and that in Brasil and various other countries is poor. Just check these people's past posts by clicking on their profiles. They only contribute on the FKK / EasternEurope Forums. Anyone who punts regularly in Brasil knows there are plenty of stunners, always have been and always will be. Sometimes you have to look harder than others.

Exec Talent
10-17-11, 16:14
There are a number of people who ask questions repeatedly, say they are visiting, but never post a field report expect to say that the standard of girls outside of FKK or Eastern Europe is good and that in Brasil and various other countries is poor. Just check these people's past posts by clicking on their profiles. They only contribute on the FKK / EasternEurope Forums. Anyone who punts regularly in Brasil knows there are plenty of stunners, always have been and always will be. Sometimes you have to look harder than others.When is the last time you have been across the pond? I am in Rio right now and stand by my firsthand, on-the-ground observations. I have no FKK or Eastern Europe ax to grind. There are stunners all over Rio. However, they are not working girls. What I see more than anything is Brazilians in Subway sandwich shops paying about R$7 (on special) for a 15cm sandwich of dubious quality.

In residential neighborhoods, dilapidated buildings are being torn down and being replaced by multi-story apartment buildings which are selling for New York prices.

Prosal
10-17-11, 19:04
anyone who punts regularly in brasil knows there are plenty of stunners, always have been and always will be.no one in his right mind will deny that there is not hot girls in brasil. but the hot brasileiras know their "market value" and want top-level guys, preferably locals, in their own peer group, sharing the same interests and the same culture. also as et rightly said, hot girls in brasil are mostly not involved in prostitution. no need. they have a good future in their country. and they have dozens of wealthy local guys at their feet eager to please and sponsor them. sao paulo, where there is admittedly some ridiculously hot and well-educated working girls, is in that respect an anomaly. in rio or nordeste, the girls who sell their ass for a living are usually from the lowest stratums of the society, and are definitely not the hottest chicks in town.

Lorenzo
10-17-11, 19:43
Let's face it, some people are just plain full of shit. The fact is that you can find stunners anywhere; I repeat, ANYWHERE: North Platte, Nebraska; Punta Arenas, Argentina; Chiang Mai, Thailand; Monrovia, Liberia; even the Falkland Islands. I mention these places because I am an inveterate traveler and have found stunners in all of them. You just have to put a little effort into it and LOOK FOR THEM.

If you can't find stunners in Rio, you probably couldn't find your ass with your hands. Better stay home and find release with Rosie Palm and her five little sisters.

Frenchieboy
10-17-11, 19:47
I was in Rio last week with 2 friends one of my friend has booked Gabriella Sabatini on Barravipsrio, I have seen her she is really like the pictures my friend told me good experience but she doesn't speak english even if she always answered by email in a perfect English!

I don't want to tell you the cost because in my last email everybody told that I was completly crazy to pay for a whole night 400 BRL for a Balcony 's girl, be sure to compare with Gabriella 400 BRL for a whole night for a stunnig girl is really not expensive.

Last week I have also met a little blond girl in Balcony called Carla. 19 yo, covered BJ and not DATY beautiful but average experience

Prosal
10-17-11, 20:14
stunners.Everywhere in the world top level girls want top level guys. This eliminates 90% of mongers from consideration. Still, admittedly, the top 10% of mongers in terms of success (not necessarily but often including money) , appearance, style, cultural awareness and game still can have easy pickings.

Ricker
10-17-11, 22:15
Let's face it, some people are just plain full of shit. The fact is that you can find stunners anywhere; I repeat, ANYWHERE: North Platte, Nebraska; Punta Arenas, Argentina; Chiang Mai, Thailand; Monrovia, Liberia; even the Falkland Islands. I mention these places because I am an inveterate traveler and have found stunners in all of them. You just have to put a little effort into it and LOOK FOR THEM.

If you can't find stunners in Rio, you probably couldn't find your ass with your hands. Better stay home and find release with Rosie Palm and her five little sisters.Amen brother!

Eric Cartman
10-18-11, 02:23
Let's face it, some people are just plain full of shit. The fact is that you can find stunners anywhere; I repeat, ANYWHERE: North Platte, Nebraska; Punta Arenas, Argentina; Chiang Mai, Thailand; Monrovia, Liberia; even the Falkland Islands. I mention these places because I am an inveterate traveler and have found stunners in all of them. You just have to put a little effort into it and LOOK FOR THEM.

If you can't find stunners in Rio, you probably couldn't find your ass with your hands. Better stay home and find release with Rosie Palm and her five little sisters.My point was just that, to me, having been living here in Rio for over 1 year now, and generally going to Tier 1 termas at least 1x-2x per week, the general level of quality has fallen. Especially from where it used to be even 1-2 years ago. Can you find someone who will qualify (to you, with whatever your tastes are) as a "stunner"? Maybe. Probably. But to my taste / IMHO the level of talent *on average* on display in the Tier 1 T's has fallen from where it used to be. I gave my hypothesis for this below.

If someone is regularly here and has recent data / reports to the contrary, that's cool and I'm all ears. Tell me where to go for better pickins'. I'm just trying to share my impressions from "boots on the ground." I don't know why everyone gets their knickers in a twist and gets all hostile.

Exec Talent
10-18-11, 03:01
Some of us are here to inform based upon our personal experiences. Others are here to antagonize. I have to admit, that from time to time I like to have a little fun. However, I think the issue of whether someone should spend their hard earned money coming to Rio is rather serious.

If someone could find a decent place to stay at a reasonable rate in Real terms, I would say, come on down. If the exchange rate were above 2:1, I would say, come on down. If air fares could be had for under $1000 from the US, I would say, come on down. If the girls provided the same level of service they did just two years ago, I would say, come on down. If there were even close to the number of attractive GDPs there was two years ago, I would say, come on down. The problem is that everything I listed here as a negative is true. I have had several guys who used to be 3-4 times a year regulars tell me on their recent visits that it was so bad they could not wait to go home.

Is it awful in Rio? No. Are there stunners stil? Yes, I see them everyday, but as I mentioned not in the Pay for Play scene. Is a bad day fishing better than a good day at work? That really is not for me to judge. But I think it is important for people to know there favorite fishing hole is not what it used to be and now costs a lot more.

Many of you defending Rio have not been here in awhile and even then come during Carnival which is not representative of Rio most of the other times of the year. If you live here and / or speak Portuguese, again you are not representative of the majority of the forum members.

Aibolit
10-18-11, 03:24
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1207507]I think the issue of whether someone should spend their hard earned money coming to Rio is rather serious.

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OK. If I have 10 days to spend in Brazil. Few days in Sao Paulo and few days in Rio. Where would you spend most of your time, if you were me and interested in stunners for p2p? Will you spend all 10 days in SP? I actually pondering on this question.

Aibolit

Carrib
10-18-11, 03:35
I for one appreciate your "boots on the ground" reporting. The Brazilian economy is improving and the girls nowadays probably have better options to earn a living. When I used to travel regularly to Rio, I met many GDP's who told me that they would not be in the business if there were better opportunities. As the previous posters noted, the best girls are probably being kept by middle class Brazilians who now have the disposable income to keep a young mistress.

Unfortunately our hobby is mostly dependent on a bad economy, corrupt government, and a favorable exchange rate. Brazil has an improved econ and well you know about the exchange rate

Carrib
10-18-11, 03:49
Some of us are here to inform based upon our personal experiences. Others are here to antagonize. I have to admit, that from time to time I like to have a little fun. However, I think the issue of whether someone should spend their hard earned money coming to Rio is rather serious.

If someone could find a decent place to stay at a reasonable rate in Real terms, I would say, come on down. If the exchange rate were above 2:1, I would say, come on down. If air fares could be had for under $1000 from the US, I would say, come on down. If the girls provided the same level of service they did just two years ago, I would say, come on down. If there were even close to the number of attractive GDPs there was two years ago, I would say, come on down. The problem is that everything I listed here as a negative is true. I have had several guys who used to be 3-4 times a year regulars tell me on their recent visits that it was so bad they could not wait to go home.

Is it awful in Rio? No. Are there stunners stil? Yes, I see them everyday, but as I mentioned not in the Pay for Play scene. Is a bad day fishing better than a good day at work? That really is not for me to judge. But I think it is important for people to know there favorite fishing hole is not what it used to be and now costs a lot more.

Many of you defending Rio have not been here in awhile and even then come during Carnival which is not representative of Rio most of the other times of the year. If you live here and / or speak Portuguese, again you are not representative of the majority of the forum members.It appears ET, that Rio is no longer the realm for sport fuckers. The scarcity of stunners dictates that you should look for a GFE type and wife them for the trip. Still I think an avg brazilian is probably a stunner somewhere else, Or a stunner could be in the eye in the beholder.

Here's my idea of a stunner...pics from a few years back. I also love the morenas with the jet black hair and big bundas brazillians are known for.

Euro100
10-18-11, 04:03
My boots are not on the ground in Rio. But I have been there a month ago. I have been to Rio pretty much every year, often multiple times, for the last two decades. And there has never been a night in which I did not find an excellent somebody for a good shag. In almost all cases they were very pretty. Stunners? I don't know, I am hard to stun. I have also mongered very regularly in Germany, Mexico, Great Britain, France, Spain, Russia, Canada, and several other countries. (You can look up my past posts, and you will see many lengthy posts of mine in all of these parts of the forum). Speaking only for myself, the mongering experience in a tier 1 Rio terma is unbeatable. Why? Because here you can establish a GFE 'relationship' with a girl that can last the whole evening and even night. This is mainly what I look for, and for this Rio is still numero uno.

Has the number of stunners that I see in the termas dropped during the recent years? I dunno. I don't really care either, as long as I can find one of them each night. I don't need to have 50 of them around me.

Yes, German FKKs are great. (I just got back from a swing through Frankfurt's FKKs.) But that party atmosphere is not there. After your session you pay and then the girl walk away in search for a new customer. Believe it or not, it can get pretty lonely ther in the presence of more than 50 very good-looking naked girls. Somebody mentioned the party atmosphere at Bernds in Honnef. I have been there and love that place, but again it pales in comparison. Even there it is unheard of that a girl would go take a shower after her session with you and then come over to you and continue to cuddle and kiss with you and offer to come over to your hotel later. Only in Rio!

Jan 156
10-18-11, 05:57
the mongering experience in a tier 1 Rio terma is unbeatable. Why? Because here you can establish a GFE 'relationship' with a girl that can last the whole evening and even night. This is mainly what I look for, and for this Rio is still numero uno.The first intelligent and objectively useful contribution to an otherwise schoolboyish debate. Anyone can check prices. Anyone can check photos. Anyone can check airfares, beaches, other simple things like that. The 'stunners' stuff is about as silly as 'who {out of thousands of women} has the biggest tits. ' Who cares. There are separate ISG sections for these endless 'which country is best' debates.

HelpRules
10-18-11, 06:50
Euro100, whats your top 3 mongering places. You have been everywhere, so I think your opinion would mean the most.

Satyr23
10-18-11, 07:05
Myself, I'm having an absolute blast! It is of course my first time here and maybe I'm blessed to have not experienced the Rio of several years ago or twenty to thirty years ago for that matter. I am however, very curious about Aibolit's question. Is the talent pool in Sao Paulo equal or better these days? And what about other parts of the country. Is there any where in Brazil where the quality of working girls hasn't dropped off in your estimations?

Sperto
10-18-11, 07:51
No more beautiful girls working as GP's. No more stunners on the streets. The brazilian have become obese. Rio has no nightlife.
Wow, a lot of things must have changed since I left in March.

If I visit something like 50 privês in centro I won't find any beautiful girls at none of them? I never had any problems finding beautiful girls at one of my favourite privês. I guess all the beautiful girls have been dismissed or started to study Nuclear Science.

All the stunners on the streets are gone as well? I guess all the smiling girls with crocodiletail whipping bundas have evaporated. What a shame, I used to "fall in love" on every block I passed.

The brazilians have become obese? Maybe Porcão are handing out free cards on the streets? Fatties in Brazil are no news to me. I just don't care as nobody is forcing me to pick up the fatties.

Rio's nightlife is gone? That was expected. The cariocas don't like to party. They have propably all turned evangelicas.

The quality at Balcony and the upscale termas have gone down? I would propably cry, but I couldn't care less about these joints.

I'll be of for my yearly 3 months trip after Christmas. I'll enjoy Rio as well as many other cities in Brazil. This far I never been disappointed with Brazil in the last 21 years.
All the complaints on how bad Brazil have become is good news to me. Less gringo-mongers in Brazil is good news to me. :)

Totos
10-18-11, 12:40
My boots are not on the ground in Rio. But I have been there a month ago. I have been to Rio pretty much every year, often multiple times, for the last two decades. And there has never been a night in which I did not find an excellent somebody for a good shag. In almost all cases they were very pretty. Stunners? I don't know, I am hard to stun. I have also mongered very regularly in Germany, Mexico, Great Britain, France, Spain, Russia, Canada, and several other countries. (You can look up my past posts, and you will see many lengthy posts of mine in all of these parts of the forum). Speaking only for myself, the mongering experience in a tier 1 Rio terma is unbeatable. Why? Because here you can establish a GFE 'relationship' with a girl that can last the whole evening and even night. This is mainly what I look for, and for this Rio is still numero uno.

Has the number of stunners that I see in the termas dropped during the recent years? I dunno. I don't really care either, as long as I can find one of them each night. I don't need to have 50 of them around me.

Yes, German FKKs are great. (I just got back from a swing through Frankfurt's FKKs.) But that party atmosphere is not there. After your session you pay and then the girl walk away in search for a new customer. Believe it or not, it can get pretty lonely ther in the presence of more than 50 very good-looking naked girls. Somebody mentioned the party atmosphere at Bernds in Honnef. I have been there and love that place, but again it pales in comparison. Even there it is unheard of that a girl would go take a shower after her session with you and then come over to you and continue to cuddle and kiss with you and offer to come over to your hotel later. Only in Rio!I agree with Euro100 even if my experience of Rio is very small. I am more used to FKKs.

I think you can find nice girls in both Rio and in FKKS. Of course types of girls will be different and then it deals with everyone's taste.

Prices are quite similar (except if you go to Privés, what I am planning to do for my next trip early next year).

The atmosphere in termas and the relationship you have with the GPs are indeed great. And I would say that the atmosphere in the city is great too.

For me FKKs and Rio are two different pleasures and I would not oppose them. It is like if I am asked if I prefer French or Italian food. I like both.

FKKs are more easy to reach, so more convenient for quick stays. But I am in a familiar atmosphere and I can hardly be surprised.

Rio is a nice trip, a nice city. It is something unusual for me. You can mix different pleasures (different food, beach, sun and sex.) what is very nice to do for a week of vacation. And for sure difficult to do in Fkks.

Totos
10-18-11, 12:53
I am thinking on my next trip to Rio.

Last time I have experienced especially the Termas. I would like to try the Prives.

I read many reports (Sperto, Bubba, and I try some in Porto on gpguia).

I would like to have some practical information :

- Are they speaking english in Prives (at least the person in charge of the Prive, for the main ones. Rio Branco 181, 185.)?

- Do I need to phone before?

- When you say Sala 2114, does it mean that I need to go Rio Branco 185 and find the flat and°2114? Is there any intercom or security code to enter the building?

- I often read that one of you made his tour of several prives before to choose the girl he liked the most. Is it commonly admitted that you come once to see the girls, leave and come a second time to pick up the one you liked? Or do you do it because you know well the people there?

That's really simple questions. Sorry about that but as I don't speak Porto (I am trying to learn the minimum) it will be easier for me with your answers.

Thanks.

Camelot13
10-18-11, 16:05
No more beautiful girls working as GP's. No more stunners on the streets. The brazilian have become obese. Rio has no nightlife.

Wow, a lot of things must have changed since I left in March.Sperto you know as well as anyone that their are less stunners working the Rio scene. I have been coming for 7 years and I can say for a fact their are less girls and thus less really amazing girls. The new girls also are not 10's that we are used to.

In my opinion it is because of the rural economy. We still get Zona Norte girls and some out state but in the past we had a steady flood of country girls coming to Rio. These were the amazing ones who knew they would use their looks in Rio to get a better life. Now if you travel to the country towns, you will find that they have everything Rio does. And the key is they have wealthy men. A girl can stay home and be a princess in the little town she grew up in.

I travel to a small town in the interior once in a while and the women are amazing. Totally insane there and none of them even talk of coming here. They all eye up the guys in the big shiny trucks etc. These guys have become millionaires almost over night, and they are keeping the girls home. Sugar cane, orange juice, soy, coffee, beef etc have all boomed and these guys are drowning in cash now.

Then add in that Help and the gringos are gone and poof.

Sperto
10-18-11, 17:31
I am thinking on my next trip to Rio.
Last time I have experienced especially the Termas. I would like to try the Prives.
I read many reports (Sperto, Bubba, and I try some in Porto on gpguia).
I would like to have some practical information :
1 Are they speaking english in Prives (at least the person in charge of the Prive, for the main ones. Rio Branco 181, 185.)?
2 Do I need to phone before?
3 When you say Sala 2114, does it mean that I need to go Rio Branco 185 and find the flat and°2114? Is there any intercom or security code to enter the building?
4 I often read that one of you made his tour of several prives before to choose the girl he liked the most. Is it commonly admitted that you come once to see the girls, leave and come a second time to pick up the one you liked? Or do you do it because you know well the people there?
That's really simple questions. Sorry about that but as I don't speak Porto (I am trying to learn the minimum) it will be easier for me with your answers.
Thanks.
1. I don't know as I never tried o speak english with the privê-girls, but don't expect it.
2. No.
3. Yes and no.
4. You can do that, no problem at all.

Sperto
10-18-11, 17:50
Sperto you know as well as anyone that their are less stunners working the Rio scene. I have been coming for 7 years and I can say for a fact their are less girls and thus less really amazing girls. The new girls also are not 10's that we are used to.
Honestly, I don't think there are less stunners working the Rio scene. I find the quality just as good as always.
However, I can only speak for the privê-scene. I havn't sat my foot in a upscale terma for many years and I have no idea if the quality is falling at those establishments.
The quality at the Copa-scene is shitty. A bunch of rip-off strip-clubs and the zoo called Balcony. No loss IMO as I don't monger in Copa.
Help disappearing was a good thing. Also, no loss at all IMO.

Exec Talent
10-18-11, 19:23
Honestly, I don't think there are less stunners working the Rio scene. I find the quality just as good as always.

However, I can only speak for the privê-scene. I havn't sat my foot in a upscale terma for many years and I have no idea if the quality is falling at those establishments.

The quality at the Copa-scene is shitty. A bunch of rip-off strip-clubs and the zoo called Balcony. No loss IMO as I don't monger in Copa.

Help disappearing was a good thing. Also, no loss at all IMO.How many years did you say you have been coming to Rio? How well do you speak Portuguese? How comfortable are you approaching a Brazilian woman and striking up a conversation? Do you have certain features that most Brazilian women find attractive (excluding little Sperto)?

My point is that Super Sperto often can go and can succeed where the average gringo would fail miserably.

Sperto
10-18-11, 19:55
How many years did you say you have been coming to Rio? How well do you speak Portuguese? How comfortable are you approaching a Brazilian woman and striking up a conversation? Do you have certain features that most Brazilian women find attractive (excluding little Sperto)?

My point is that Super Sperto often can go and can succeed where the average gringo would fail miserably.I can't see how that has anything to do with the quality of the GP's.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Mine is that the quality of the GP's at the privês hasn't gone down. Rather on the contrary.

Devilspinkick
10-18-11, 20:57
All the complaints on how bad Brazil have become is good news to me. Less gringo-mongers in Brazil is good news to me. :)I agree wholeheartedly. Personally, I don't think that the overall quality has declined so much as it has shifted to different spots as needed. Hell, there has always been a lot of fat chicks in Brazil. Rio included. And a lot of guys like fat chicks. I prefer skinny ladies, so Brazilian has never had a bevy of hotties for me compared to Asia or Europe. Yet I still love the Brasilieras. Rio hasn't changed much unless all you ever did was go to HELP. If that happens to be the case then so sorry.

- DSK

Camelot13
10-19-11, 01:40
Honestly, I don't think there are less stunners working the Rio scene. I find the quality just as good as always.

However, I can only speak for the privê-scene. I havn't sat my foot in a upscale terma for many years and I have no idea if the quality is falling at those establishments.

The quality at the Copa-scene is shitty. A bunch of rip-off strip-clubs and the zoo called Balcony. No loss IMO as I don't monger in Copa.

Help disappearing was a good thing. Also, no loss at all IMO.I stand corrected. And better yet, I learned something.

PatmarBeleza1
10-19-11, 03:13
Worth the price of ISG 50 times over. After 13 trips I have yet to go to a prive, but that will be corrected on the next, starting with the tijuca prives. The quality of Brasileiras hasn't declined, as much as the economics have improved. Wisely, they are not sending their best into politics, judging by el Presidente.


the quality of the GP's at the privês hasn't gone down. Rather on the contrary.

Satyr23
10-19-11, 07:07
speaking of choices other than upscale termas. inspired by sperto's guide and a penchant for penny saving i decided to try my luck at some of the centro casa de massagems. the day was in some ways a hilarious failure, but also a fun scouting adventure. my first goal was rio branco 181, sala 801. nova massagem. i left copa around 11:15 taking the advice that i should arrive just before 12:00, so businessmen didn't take up all the hotties. i figured a half hour there would have me arriving around 11:45. but as my luck has been lately, traffic was bad and it of course took a little while to find it and i arrived around 12:15. 12:30. what i didn't expect at all is that it would be right in a huge ass office building, in a suite like a psychiatrists office or a law firm or something. i didn't see that one coming. so here i am in a grotesque iron maiden t-shirt (eddie on the front with half his head ripped off, brains exposed, etc.) , jeans and my bandana, riding the elevator with men in women dressed in formal business attire. i couldn't find the place, so i actually asked at the information desk! lol! they just said no and were laughing at me as i walked away. then i thought "oh duh. 801. it's got to be on the 8th floor, might as well try." so i went up and found it, rang the doorbell several times and got no reply. i guess they were slammed and so didn't bother answering or looked through the peep hole and said "fuck this guy!" i'll come back another day dressed appropriately. next i tried 185, sala 2114. this time i asked a down to earth elevator assistand and he grinned and was glad to show me the way. they were real busy and i saw a few hot girls, but they weren't available right then. the girls available weren't up to snuff, so i told them i'd come back. next it was off to rio branco 156, edificio central 3320. kind of hard to find cause its in a big building in the middle of this plaza of sorts, but a friendly shop worker pointed it out with knowing smile. i tried sala 3320 first. here i got shafted for being a gringo. they told me to wait outside the door."hmmm. ok, i guess." so i'm waiting and this young brazilian guy comes up and rings the bell. they tell him to wait too. after a few minutes they invite us both in. girls come out and start greeting him. the receptionist or whatever she is tells me something i can't understand. eventually he goes back with one of them. i'm thinking ok whatever, he's probably a regular and works in this building, no worries. then after a few minutes another girl comes out and explains is broken english that they are book and i'll have to come back. those bastards! no, in all honesty i really didn't care and had lunch and even got my hair cut downstairs. the barber was a real craftsman and probably spent 40 minutes on my cut. i decided to try one more and went to sala 2622. this place was real friendly and put me in a shag room right away, had about 5 girls or so come in to greet me and i chose a young loira named mel. turns out she was from argentina. she has real sweet eyes and a cute face. her body was ok and her service was good. i paid r100 for an hour and it was definitely worth it! so the lesson i learned today is for sure get there before noon, study more portuguese and maybe not dress like a metal-head in centro.

Ipanema Carioca
10-19-11, 07:29
speaking of choices other than upscale termas. inspired by sperto's guide and a penchant for penny saving i decided to try my luck at some of the centro casa de massagems. the day was in some ways a hilarious failure, but also a fun scouting adventure. my first goal was rio branco 181, sala 801. nova massagem. i left copa around 11:15 taking the advice that i should arrive just before 12:00, so businessmen didn't take up all the hotties. i figured a half hour there would have me arriving around 11:45. but as my luck has been lately, traffic was bad and it of course took a little while to find it and i arrived around 12:15. 12:30. what i didn't expect at all is that it would be right in a huge ass office building, in a suite like a psychiatrists office or a law firm or something. i didn't see that one coming. so here i am in a grotesque iron maiden t-shirt (eddie on the front with half his head ripped off, brains exposed, etc.) , jeans and my bandana, riding the elevator with men in women dressed in formal business attire. i couldn't find the place, so i actually asked at the information desk! lol! they just said no and were laughing at me as i walked away. then i thought "oh duh. 801. it's got to be on the 8th floor, might as well try." so i went up and found it, rang the doorbell several times and got no reply. i guess they were slammed and so didn't bother answering or looked through the peep hole and said "fuck this guy!" i'll come back another day dressed appropriately. next i tried 185, sala 2114. this time i asked a down to earth elevator assistand and he grinned and was glad to show me the way. they were real busy and i saw a few hot girls, but they weren't available right then. the girls available weren't up to snuff, so i told them i'd come back. next it was off to rio branco 156, edificio central 3320. kind of hard to find cause its in a big building in the middle of this plaza of sorts, but a friendly shop worker pointed it out with knowing smile. i tried sala 3320 first. here i got shafted for being a gringo. they told me to wait outside the door."hmmm. ok, i guess." so i'm waiting and this young brazilian guy comes up and rings the bell. they tell him to wait too. after a few minutes they invite us both in. girls come out and start greeting him. the receptionist or whatever she is tells me something i can't understand. eventually he goes back with one of them. i'm thinking ok whatever, he's probably a regular and works in this building, no worries. then after a few minutes another girl comes out and explains is broken english that they are book and i'll have to come back. those bastards! no, in all honesty i really didn't care and had lunch and even got my hair cut downstairs. the barber was a real craftsman and probably spent 40 minutes on my cut. i decided to try one more and went to sala 2622. this place was real friendly and put me in a shag room right away, had about 5 girls or so come in to greet me and i chose a young loira named mel. turns out she was from argentina. she has real sweet eyes and a cute face. her body was ok and her service was good. i paid r100 for an hour and it was definitely worth it! so the lesson i learned today is for sure get there before noon, study more portuguese and maybe not dress like a metal-head in centro.i can't believe you would actually walk around the fucking building asking people "where are the ***** houses"? what a clown. you should've kept that info off the board, because you show a lack of common sense! the two salas didn't let you in because they heard some gringo dork is running around asking for their locations!

Satyr23
10-19-11, 08:18
Did you take your medication today? No need to get hostile or hurl insults at other members. Relax.

Satyr23
10-19-11, 08:43
IpanemaCarioca, I'm confused by your response to my post. If the powers that be didn't want the massage place in the building, it wouldn't be there. It's not like it's a f*king secret. I think me asking a couple people that work there, would be the equivalent to asking someone near 4x4 or Balcony if they could direct me to the address. Are those mysterious secret dens too, that must be spoken of in hush words lest we ruin them for ever? What the f*k are you thinking? You put words in my mouth. I didn't ask "where's the fuck house' I respectfully asked where a room number was. As for 'keeping info off the board', no thanks I prefer honesty. I see nothing wrong with my actions. I lived in Thailand for 6 months and there was never a problem, stopping a gentleman on the streets, a shop owner, or a cab driver and asking where a place was. They're men too. Maybe you fear judgment or embarrasment if you were to ask a question like that and are projecting your problems on me? I don't know. I think maybe some meditation or a change in diet might help you to not have knee jerk emotional reactions. It always confuses me when someone flies off the handle and gets all bitchy at others on this board. If you notice something that would help me or have something to say feel free to treat me with mutual respect and just say it. If this country is different and I need to keep everything all hush hush or risk damaging things for us all I'm very open to that info and changing how I roll, just leave childish insults behind when bringing the info. Thanks.

Chercheur
10-19-11, 11:35
I did not have any problem finding a privé in RIO except the one in the garage in Tijuca. And the privés are really worth the R$ 100 an hour.

I love the GDPs in RIO, the game to find them is a real fun, they are good in the sack and you can get more than sex. I don't care if it was better before, I get my kicks there every time I go.

The only place I found that beats Rio is Moscow where you can find MILFs that are looking to have good sex. But Russia needs a lot bigger investment (learning Russian) and it is dammed cold in the winter.

In Asia, IMHO there is no game.

Where else in the word is there such a game as in RIO?

Voyajer1
10-19-11, 12:15
When in Rome, we need to walk as Romans do, or so goes the saying. I'm going to imply that, based on how you were dressed going around the scene downtown, you were a posterchild for an "Ugly American or Ugly Gringo" if you are not from the USA. They assume we should stick to the more upscale places, that's where we should be, not slumming with their kind. Rule number one when going downtown is to dressdown, or blend in; don't make it so obvious that you are a foreigner. You are in their yard, Brazil, Rio de Janeiro, a foreign land, some people are very territorial like that.

Some folks find it extremely offensive if we go to their backyard and go to their establishments to take advantage of their women. Yes, its silly, but understand their mentality. It is a territorial thing with some of these folks. I for one, blend so well that I've never been asked to wait outside anywhere, no matter where I've gone or how full the place has been. That should have been a clue that something was not quite right. Live and learn, next time you go, wear slacks, a polo shirt, and tennis and don't ask too many questions and you should be fine. Take Sperto's Map of Privates with you and tell us more. Your reports are the kind of contributions that we need more of. Here is the link. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1#post1143546

So keep doing your thing man, and remember, next time dowmtown to blend a little better. Have fun!


IpanemaCarioca, I'm confused by your response to my post. If the powers that be didn't want the massage place in the building, it wouldn't be there. It's not like it's a f*king secret. I think me asking a couple people that work there, would be the equivalent to asking someone near 4x4 or Balcony if they could direct me to the address. Are those mysterious secret dens too, that must be spoken of in hush words lest we ruin them for ever? What the f*k are you thinking? You put words in my mouth. I didn't ask "where's the fuck house' I respectfully asked where a room number was. As for 'keeping info off the board', no thanks I prefer honesty. I see nothing wrong with my actions. I lived in Thailand for 6 months and there was never a problem, stopping a gentleman on the streets, a shop owner, or a cab driver and asking where a place was. They're men too. Maybe you fear judgment or embarrasment if you were to ask a question like that and are projecting your problems on me? I don't know. I think maybe some meditation or a change in diet might help you to not have knee jerk emotional reactions. It always confuses me when someone flies off the handle and gets all bitchy at others on this board. If you notice something that would help me or have something to say feel free to treat me with mutual respect and just say it. If this country is different and I need to keep everything all hush hush or risk damaging things for us all I'm very open to that info and changing how I roll, just leave childish insults behind when bringing the info. Thanks.

Ipanema Carioca
10-19-11, 16:18
Did you take your medication today? No need to get hostile or hurl insults at other members. Relax.Dude, you remind me of someone who goes to a bad and seedy part of time looking for a drug dealer. Yes they sell drugs in this and'hood, on this street, and in that house. There are no signs in this and'hood, on this street, and in that house because drugs are illegal to sell. Yeah it happens because it's an underground operation that poor people operate to make money, and it's tolerated as long as it's low key and the police get paid. So when a customer arrives he learns to blend in by dressing and acting similar to others by doing a little bit of homework.

Now apply this program to the casas downtown Rio. There are no signs in that building, in that lobby, and that floor to say there is pussy being sold illegally. CLUE, huh! No you mentioned 4x4 and Balconi, there are BIG signs and neon lights to let you know where you are, and if you did your homework you know you can but pussy there huh. Where does it say at 4 x 4 or Balcony that you can buy pussy? Where did it say at Club Help that you can buy pussy, or a Meia Pataca? Yo did got to those places and ask the waiter, security or the girls "DO YOU SELL PUSSY"? Because you indicated that when those in the office building "laughed or smirked" when you ask your questions per your own admissions.

Lastly your attire. When you go to the worst part of town in any country you don't want to dress like a banker to buy illegal contraband. You looking gringo on the highest degree, and you mention that you knew you stuck out because of the way you described apparel. No wonder they did let you into the other salas huh! And dude, get your geography correct.

And So what you lived in Thailand. That's another country several thousand miles away. The thai rules don't apply in Brazil except the rule of common sense. Those Rio casa get raided from time to time because somebody didn't get paid or some professional or nongdp "WOMEN" made a complaint to the right people. And when a foreigner like you run around the building asking for obvious "sex locations", their "secret office building working girl houses" for the locals turns into the world dreaded "Sexoutism". C'mon dude, I apologize for the "bad words" that I thought should apply to your actions, but use some common sense, or stay home!

Exec Talent
10-19-11, 16:50
Being a prostitute is not illegal in Brazil, however someone benefiting financially from the prostitution activities of another is illegal. Termas exist only because cops and government officials are paid to look the other way. They all could be gone tomorrow. Private apartments and massage places are the same. They do not want too much attention brought to their activities because they are illegal and because their nice neighbors might decide to put some pressure on the cops and government officials to do something about them.

When you visit another country, observe the behavior of the locals. When they visit prives, they quietly approach the doors alone or with one friend. They look like they are going to the doctor or accountant. Please follow their lead or the next time you go to that prive you will find it has closed or moved.

Ipanema Carioca
10-19-11, 19:15
Being a prostitute is not illegal in Brazil, however someone benefiting financially from the prostitution activities of another is illegal. Termas exist only because cops and government officials are paid to look the other way. They all could be gone tomorrow. Private apartments and massage places are the same. They do not want too much attention brought to their activities because they are illegal and because their nice neighbors might decide to put some pressure on the cops and government officials to do something about them.

When you visit another country, observe the behavior of the locals. When they visit prives, they quietly approach the doors alone or with one friend. They look like they are going to the doctor or accountant. Please follow their lead or the next time you go to that prive you will find it has closed or moved.Exactly. I once saw 6 copa gringoes coming from a sala door complaining they been there twice and was told it was too busy. Them "girls are tripping" they said to me. I knew what happened. I retreated and went to the elevator down with them as explained that you can't arrive 6 deep with backpacks like you're going to 4x4 or other terma. Plus they were load in the hallway when I first saw them. With in a few minutes I ditched them and rode back up to the 3300 floor, rung the buzzer and was let in and had a great session.

Satyr23
10-19-11, 22:25
Great! Thanks for the info everyone. I appreciate it!

HelpRules
10-19-11, 23:02
Do the privates have a lineup, or do you hang out like the termas. One thing I didn't like about the casas in Colombia was they all have a lineup. No interview process is possible. Its alot cheaper there so it makes up for it a little bit.

Acenva
10-20-11, 00:55
Do the privates have a lineup, or do you hang out like the termas. One thing I didn't like about the casas in Colombia was they all have a lineup. No interview process is possible. Its alot cheaper there so it makes up for it a little bit.Most of the privates have a line up, which is done in the room. This gives you a quick meet and greet. Take this time to find out what your looking for ie completa and so forth.

The more you visit some of them the more time you get for the line up. Happy hunting

Eric Cartman
10-20-11, 03:01
Popped into T65 (meia-cinco) last night. Very busy at 8pm. Lots of Brazilian guys in the boate, maybe 20. Started thinning out by 9. At one point was about 15 guys to 15 girls. Not sure how many of the guys went to rooms, probably less than 30.

Only 1 stand-out (for me) in the joint, a tall mulatta bodybuilder chick, only 19. Safadinha in the room. I like the suites at 65, especially in the newer section.

Overall I'd say the girls were thinner than MC, but not a bunch of hard bodies. Also a little older. On average, although said bodybuilder chick was 19 (!). And the talent hasn't changed out much in the last few months. My friend met me there after 4x4 and said there still was a big selection there. If only we could put the chicks of 4x4 in the environment of 65! He actually spent the evening there drinking and feeling up (with his friend) two of the thinner chicks, and they both went home with the 2 guys. That never happens to me. I guess I need to buy more drinks and create a "party atmosphere" more heh.

Got out for R396. 50 which included 1 water. 1 agua de coco, and 1 hour in the room. So yes technically MC is cheaper with a free entrada, ouch.

I keep praying the arrival of summer will bring hotter girls out of the woodwork. If only I was like Sperto and Bubba and could spend my days hitting up the prives! (and yes I know some are open on Saturday but with only half-staff, and generally that's the only day I can sleep in!). Working sucks ahaha!

Of course with the frakking rain all this week, it feels like summer is miles away. Or I should say km away.

-Cartman

Satyr23
10-20-11, 04:19
I'm continuing to check out cheaper options. The other day I checked out 502, but turns out it was a holiday and they only had 15 girls working. So I sessioned with the one of them and had an OK experience. The day I tried the centro massage places, I took a cab to villa mimosa. I had to at least see it on this trip. It was of course filthy, but not as bad as I expected. I saw two pretty hot girls, but wasn't feeling at all up for it. Don't know if I'll be back.

I returned to 502 tonight to see what the selection was like on a normal night. Some things came up and I got a late start on the evening. I didn't arrive till about 10:30, so I'll probably stop in again sometime, but this night I wasn't too impressed, so I finished my drink, gave one of my entrance drinks to the girl I was talking to and headed over to 4x4 where I knew the selection would be far better even this late. Here I met a weird looking morena with a hot body and a savage look about her that made me suspect she'd be alot of fun. I read her right and had possibly the best session of this trip. She offered complete service, maybe the best BBBJ this trip and CIM. It was a good night. She was a bit shy with photos but I managed to get some shots of her beautiful ass!

Ipanema Carioca
10-20-11, 05:24
Great! Thanks for the info everyone. I appreciate it!Satyr, you took the constructive criticism yesterday very well. Nothing personal. Enjoy the rest of your trip.

Satyr23
10-20-11, 06:02
Satyr, you took the constructive criticism yesterday very well. Nothing personal. Enjoy the rest of your trip.Cool, thanks man, and I definitely will!

Bubba Boy
10-20-11, 09:56
I read all these comments about the talent being down right now in Rio. At this time of year it goes quiet in the Termas. 502 right now is a complete mess, all the decent girls have gone and it is just dead. Come the end of November things will really pick up. December through to after Carnaval (Feb-Mar) is the peak time for Rio for the Termas etc.

So the answer for this time of the year is the prives, they are still full. For me they have the hottest girls right now and a complete roster of staff every month.

I read all this talk about there not being the same talent working in Rio as 5 years ago, I think this is not correct. I have been hearing this ever since my first trip in 2003/2004. I think that the more trips people make the more they expect. With each return trip we expect more. If you search hard enough you can find a number of 9's. Just need to put in the effort and get out there and explore.

Yes the economic situation has improved in Brazil, but if you are from a poor background and have no education it is still tough to earn more than R$1000. R$1500 per month and with inflation rampant in Brazil, that doesn't go very far.

Exec Talent
10-20-11, 14:43
I think it is very accurate to bring up perspective which is why I did so with Sperto. If you are a local (Bubba Boy) or frequent visitor who speaks Portuguese well and more than a week to spend on the ground, you feel much more comfortable visiting some places that the casual tourist might not. Not everyone feels comfortable in downtown Rio going from office building to office building or visiting places that are rated based upon the cleanliness of the sheets.

I personally have had good experiences with Brazilians living in other countries, including the US. That same experience might not apply to someone who does not speak Portuguese. So what I am saying is not that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that how easy it is to obtain that beauty, is.

One thing I am NOT saying is that women elsewhere on any level are better than Brazilians. But to say that the number of women in the business easily accessible to the majority of the members of this forum has not decreased in recent times is disingenuous.

Bubba Boy
10-20-11, 19:58
There is absolutely no doubt that the number of available GDP's in Copacabana has decreased. When Help was in operation it used to essentially keep 500-1000 GDP's. Rent in Copa is now much much higher than it was even 3 years ago, so even the remaining GDP's that work in Copa can't afford to live in Copa. I used to see Terma girls walking along the street all the time in Copa, now very rarely see them, they go home to the baixada after work.

The market has changed, hence it is necessary to change with it. This means one has to visit Centro or Tijuca. As exec has stated, probably not best for a first time visitor to stumble around the place, but the big Centro Termas are perfectly fine. Some of the big Prives are fine as well, just don't be an ugly tourist, keep it low key, don't go in groups of more than 2. A little respect goes a long long way.

Charly 2144
10-20-11, 21:28
A quick review on a very pleasant outcall session I experienced recently in Rio.

The girls' name is Bom Bom. Found her on barravipsrio. Com where she still is. I called at 9. 00 pm, Bom Bom doesn't speak a word of english (and I don't speak portugese) but she had a friend who speaks good english and provided all information I needed. The girl arrived 1 hour later. But upon her arrival, something unusual occured : I was staying at The Sofitel Copacabana and the receptionnist called me to say that a visitor was asking for me and if I was ok to let her come to my room. Well, I was surprised but I said yes. Then 3 minutes later, the girl knocked at the door, I opened and let her come in but she was not alone. A man from the staff was right behind and asked me to sign a receipt ackowledging that I had some visitor and charging me 250 R$! I couldn't fire the girl and so had to sign the receipt. Bad surprise isn't it?

Well, the girls was with me now and I wanted to enjoy that moment anyhow. Let me say that the pictures are real : very nice and firm body, soft skin, very nice tits, great ass and nice face. She's a great kisser, very GFE. We really had a good time and I will see her again next time I go to Rio. So I strongly recommand. Damage was 250 R$ for 1 hour as far as I remember.

One question : Has anyone already experienced this extra charged by an hotel for an escort visit? Is it specific to Sofitel or applied in other hotels?

Thank you for your answer.

Charles

Slickrick6579
10-20-11, 23:54
I was in RIO in April of last year and I ordered delivery too. I was called to the front desk and had to pay the VISITOR fee also. I stayed a smaller hotel in Copacabana, but I would say that this may be a standard charge. I don't recall the fee amount, but it was fine with me and the guys at the front desk were very professional and discreet about my guest.

Ricky

Rio Bob
10-21-11, 01:47
A quick review on a very pleasant outcall session I experienced recently in Rio.

The girls' name is Bom Bom. Found her on barravipsrio. Com where she still is. I called at 9. 00 pm, Bom Bom doesn't speak a word of english (and I don't speak portugese) but she had a friend who speaks good english and provided all information I needed. The girl arrived 1 hour later. But upon her arrival, something unusual occured : I was staying at The Sofitel Copacabana and the receptionnist called me to say that a visitor was asking for me and if I was ok to let her come to my room. Well, I was surprised but I said yes. Then 3 minutes later, the girl knocked at the door, I opened and let her come in but she was not alone. A man from the staff was right behind and asked me to sign a receipt ackowledging that I had some visitor and charging me 250 R$! I couldn't fire the girl and so had to sign the receipt. Bad surprise isn't it?

Well, the girls was with me now and I wanted to enjoy that moment anyhow. Let me say that the pictures are real : very nice and firm body, soft skin, very nice tits, great ass and nice face. She's a great kisser, very GFE. We really had a good time and I will see her again next time I go to Rio. So I strongly recommand. Damage was 250 R$ for 1 hour as far as I remember.

One question : Has anyone already experienced this extra charged by an hotel for an escort visit? Is it specific to Sofitel or applied in other hotels?

Thank you for your answer.

CharlesIf I was staying at the sofitel and I wouldn't because of the escort fee involved, when the escort arrived at my room with the man from the staff and the 250 reais fee, I would have told him to stick the 250 reais bill up his ass and taken the escort to a local motel for 1 hour. This is why I haven't stayed there in 25 years. Yes this fee is normal bur 250 reais is excessive

Bubba Boy
10-21-11, 02:01
Unfortunately the Sofitel always charges R$250 for the guest fee. Basically they don't want girls there but are prepared to allow it for $.

Sui Generis
10-21-11, 03:11
One question : Has anyone already experienced this extra charged by an hotel for an escort visit? Is it specific to Sofitel or applied in other hotels?

CharlesIn order to avoid to pay an extra charge I always wait for my visitors / guests in the hall of the hotel. I take the elevator with my guests without telling the reception. It's not their damn buisiness. R$250 it's a real rip off!

HelpRules
10-21-11, 03:27
Barravips looks to be really improved. I haven't been on the site in a couple years. Alot more girls with more videos. Would you say this is the biggest and best escort website.

Sperto
10-21-11, 07:03
One question : Has anyone already experienced this extra charged by an hotel for an escort visit? Is it specific to Sofitel or applied in other hotels?R$250 for the GP's visiting you is just incredible!
As Sangue Bon wrote you should have taken her to a local motel.

Charging extra for somebody visiting you in your hotel room is common all over Brasil, no matter if it's a cheap hotel or a expensive one. They charge what it's called "cama extra".

The first question I ask before I check into a hotel or a pousada is if they allow visits? If the answer is no I leave straight away. The second question is if they charge a fee and if so how much? This fee is often negotiable. If your visit isn't spending the night you can often get away without being charged anything at all. Sometimes they charge a fee between R$ 10-30. Just ask in a proper way. Tell them you have a local amiga and wants to bring her to your room to chill out and conversate.

Having visits can be complicated. Several times I had to sneak by the night staff with some date just to avoid complications. Once in Fortaleza the reception-clerk didn't allow me bringing my guest to my room, but allowed me to bring her up on the terrace on the hotel roof (the neighbour buildings got themselves a live-show :)). Sometimes I managed not being charged an extra fee by telling the reception staff that my guest had menstruation (if it's a male staff they might be understanding and lower the fee). Anything goes.

El Mujerista
10-21-11, 14:22
In order to avoid to pay an extra charge I always wait for my visitors / guests in the hall of the hotel. I take the elevator with my guests without telling the reception. It's not their damn buisiness. R$250 it's a real rip off!What I've also done to circumvent this nonsense is to have the girl call me from outside the hotel. I've then met her outside and walked in with her with no hassles. Admittedly, this probably works best in the afternoon and helps if the lady isn't dressed to attract the wrong kind of attention. You should arrange this ahead of time, as I think many girls are conditioned to show their ID at reception. Once this happens at the Sofitel, you're sunk.

I agree that R$250 is a real rip-off as I once got stuck with this myself. I try not to stay there but don't always have a choice based on client requirements.

Stay horny my friends,
EM

SlimHoleDrill
10-21-11, 15:13
I'm continuing to check out cheaper options. The other day I checked out 502, but turns out it was a holiday and they only had 15 girls working. So I sessioned with the one of them and had an OK experience. The day I tried the centro massage places, I took a cab to villa mimosa. I had to at least see it on this trip. It was of course filthy, but not as bad as I expected. I saw two pretty hot girls, but wasn't feeling at all up for it. Don't know if I'll be back.

I returned to 502 tonight to see what the selection was like on a normal night. Some things came up and I got a late start on the evening. I didn't arrive till about 10:30, so I'll probably stop in again sometime, but this night I wasn't too impressed, so I finished my drink, gave one of my entrance drinks to the girl I was talking to and headed over to 4x4 where I knew the selection would be far better even this late. Here I met a weird looking morena with a hot body and a savage look about her that made me suspect she'd be alot of fun. I read her right and had possibly the best session of this trip. She offered complete service, maybe the best BBBJ this trip and CIM. It was a good night. She was a bit shy with photos but I managed to get some shots of her beautiful ass!Now that's what I'm talking about! That is one of the finest asses I have seen on this board. Wow. That puts to rest the discussion about there being lack of talent. You know, this discussion comes up every winter. I remember posting on this a year or two ago when one of our friends was writing posts about the death of Rio. It gets slow in the winter and comes back in the summer. That's just the way it goes. Get used it. But IMHO, Rio at its very worst beats most places.

Ipanema Carioca
10-21-11, 20:43
I was in RIO in April of last year and I ordered delivery too. I was called to the front desk and had to pay the VISITOR fee also. I stayed a smaller hotel in Copacabana, but I would say that this may be a standard charge. I don't recall the fee amount, but it was fine with me and the guys at the front desk were very professional and discreet about my guest.

RickySo I do not mind the hotel fee. For the right hotel I do not might the girl fee, because think about the free breakfast you get every morning, sheets and towels and maid service. With an apartment you hardly ever get enough towels and sheets, and you wash your dirty linen yourself. Who has precious mongering time to waste washing towels and sheets. Then, too, there's security. At hotels girls can't bribe the doorman and the doorman asks for ID, so a gdp is less likely to act the fool on you. And many apartments have dirty mattresses with bed bugs. If an independent apt agent sees a mattress on the street some where and he needs one, get what, you'll may be sleeping on that mattress. Many friends have gotten bed bug bites, me included. I also caught the dirty sheets when first checking into an apt. So hotel fees can be good. I do not live lower than my standards at home when I monger. I will pay for service if it's reasonable fee. Even for the girls.

Eric Cartman
10-21-11, 23:37
Re: room fees. I typically try to avoid these by always booking a room for 2 people (generally the same price as one) , and when I check in, I ask for 2 keys and explain my girlfriend will be joining me later. This has typically worked in Sao Paulo even over 2 nights with different chicks. May be different in Rio.

Anyway, Thursday night I hit up MC and got destroyed by a thin / magra mulatta called Hanna. I'd seen her before but she disappeared for a while. I'm hanging out in the boate, probably 15 guys and 30 girls. Great vibe, dancing, music crowded. 9.30pm on Thursday night. I see her dancing and we exchange a few looks. I haven't decided what I'm doing yet. Talk to a few girls I know, brush off a few others.

Hanna dances on over and comes on up to me."Your name is Cartman, right?" She asks. I'm like, yes it is. I'm sorry, I forget your name. She says,"That's because we've never talked before." And goes on to explain that she'd seen me there with Bebel and some other girls, but I never approached her. So we start chatting and she works me good. Not long before we are feeling each other up in the boate, then move over by the DJ to make out a bit (before the DJ tells us to clear off). Then out in the hall. Then up to the room.

She tells me nothing is off-limits. I'm like,"prepare yourself well, then." She emerges and we make out in the hallway upstairs for like 10 mins while waiting for the suite. She is all over me, BBBJ to the base, lots of kitty-rubbing teasing, DATY, you name it. No orifice was left unlicked lmao. I blow in her mouth and she swallows it down and keep sucking. Then round 2, she perks the old feller up and we go at it. It's time for the "'de 'quatro" and I stick my thumb in her cuzinho as I'm railing her from behind. Which clearly is the signal to switch to missionary anal, as she promptly requests. So I do. And she loves it. And then I pull the trademark Cartman and put the pillow on the floor so she can kneel and BBBJ me to completion again. We start going at it a third time when the phone rings.

I'm sort of walking out in a daze knowing I just got serviced but not minding haha. That's the kind of experience T's are about. She's maybe a 7 (a little flabby in the bunda, but the top is all magra) but what an attitude! Beats out the 9 I had at 65 the other night who has a more crackin' body but was a little more restrained. I watched the new South Park episode "Bass To Mouth" when I got home and couldn't stop laughing.

Out for a total of R$375 including my bottle of agua com gas. She didn't pimp me for drinks or anything. Well worth it. My faith in top-end T's is restored.

-Cartman

Satyr23
10-21-11, 23:40
Now that's what I'm talking about! That is one of the finest asses I have seen on this board. Wow. That puts to rest the discussion about there being lack of talent. You know, this discussion comes up every winter. I remember posting on this a year or two ago when one of our friends was writing posts about the death of Rio. It gets slow in the winter and comes back in the summer. That's just the way it goes. Get used it. But IMHO, Rio at its very worst beats most places.I'm thrilled to find out from bubba's post and yours here that this is a slow time of year, cause with nothing to compare it to I'm already quite satisfied. I've only been to Mexico and Thailand for mongering. The service was terrible in Mexico and although I had great fun and loved Thailand, I often had to search for some time to find a girl with a body like you find in Brazil and so far the overall service I'm getting here is above and beyond what I've experienced previously. I had two fun sessions in Centro yesterday. One at Rio Branco 185 sala 2114 for R100/1hr and one at Rua Uruguaiana 24 for R36/30min and If I can bang a girl who looks like this right now for R220, then I'm really looking forward to summer!

Satyr23
10-22-11, 00:51
Hey, does anyone know the current prices at Terma 22 in copa? I know it's a pretty crappy place, but there is one hot young mulata I had a good session with and it's right in my neighborhood. They're currently charging me R150 for an hour plus R15 for three drinks. I think it should be a bit lower considering the quality of the place.

Poucolouco
10-22-11, 01:37
Hey, does anyone know the current prices at Terma 22 in copa? I know it's a pretty crappy place, but there is one hot young mulata I had a good session with and it's right in my neighborhood. They're currently charging me R150 for an hour plus R15 for three drinks. I think it should be a bit lower considering the quality of the place.Should be R$ 50/30, R$80-100/60. Your drink prices are reasonable but I believe you are being overcharged for the program. Even if they raised prices recently, a 50% increase would be out of line.

Exec Talent
10-22-11, 03:04
I went to downtown Rio today in search of those elusive stunners I have been hearing so much about. I visited Rio Branco 156, Salas 3320, 2622, 1839 and 1216. Of the 20 girls I met, there was indeed one stunner, Adriana in 2622. A couple others were in the acceptable range but for the most part I was not impressed. Off to Rio Branco 181, Sala 801 is closed and based on their site, http://www.novamassagem.com

They are now located at R. The Conceição. 19. I buzzed two times at 801 and when leaving the building discreetly confirmed with the information desk that they were indeed closed.

Next stop, Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114, http://www.belprazer.com

8 girls and no stunners, but there was a really cute 21 year-old with a bubble butt, Milana. For those who like them young, tight and sweet you have a Bingo.

When you exit Carioca station on the metro, turn left on the same side of the street to get to Rio Branco 156. I started at the top, Sala 3320 taking the elevator to the 32nd floor and walking up on flight. From there, I just took the stairs down to 2622, 1839 and 1216. Rio Branco 181 & 185 are right across the street and to the right.

I know my way around the area and all in all it was an investment of about three hours including time on the metro. One thing I noticed is that you want to take a close look at what the tight fitting clothing is holding in. Many of the girls were not in great shape. Keep in mind results can vary because depending on the moment you are there, certain girls will be occupied. Prices that I checked were consistent with what Sperto posted in May 2011 from his March 2011 visits.

Rio Bob
10-22-11, 03:21
So I do not mind the hotel fee. For the right hotel I do not might the girl fee, because think about the free breakfast you get every morning, sheets and towels and maid service. With an apartment you hardly ever get enough towels and sheets, and you wash your dirty linen yourself. Who has precious mongering time to waste washing towels and sheets. Then, too, there's security. At hotels girls can't bribe the doorman and the doorman asks for ID, so a gdp is less likely to act the fool on you. And many apartments have dirty mattresses with bed bugs. If an independent apt agent sees a mattress on the street some where and he needs one, get what, you'll may be sleeping on that mattress. Many friends have gotten bed bug bites, me included. I also caught the dirty sheets when first checking into an apt. So hotel fees can be good. I do not live lower than my standards at home when I monger. I will pay for service if it's reasonable fee. Even for the girls.Well what you say could be true but:

Breakfast is included in the price, nothing is free but yes some of these breakfasts are pretty good.


Wash your own dirty linen? All of the apartments I ever rented all had access to a maid who came in and cleaned the apartment, changed the sheets and gave you fresh towels. Not very expensive so I usually do it every 3 days and I always have enough towels for 3 days.


Bed Bugs? Well I guess it's possible for sure, I have never seen them but most but not all of the apartments I have stayed in so does the owner of the apartment when he is in Rio so they keep their bed clean.


There are pros and cons to each choice here, sure a hotel has more comforts but an apartment has more freedom and is less expensive with less fees.

Rio Bob
10-22-11, 03:52
Unfortunately our hobby is mostly dependent on a bad economy, corrupt government, and a favorable exchange rate. Brazil has an improved econ and well you know about the exchange rateThis is the truth. 10 years ago in my opinion Gringos were flocking in to Rio with their pockets full of $100 bills and Copa freelancers would only take dollars. So if a good looking girl asked for $100 for TLN that could have put between 350 and 400 reais in her pocket and some could do this more than once a day. I'm not condoning this practice but I can assure you this is what was going on. So if 10 yeras ago a real nice young girl could get between 350 to 400 reais or more for either tln or a session and today people are balking at 150 or 200 reais for a session, factor in inflation and the price of pussy in terms of Reais has plummeted in the past ten years for freelancers in Copa. This is why there are less girls now and less good looking ones in Copa. Back then I'm sure a young beautiful girl would prostitute herself for that kind of money, it was too tempting, today the money just isn't there and it's not worth it to them to come from all over Brasil for 150 or 200 reais if they can even get it. Sure this is the end of the slow season now and it will pick up as the next few months progress so lets see what the quantity and quality will be like in December through February, I think it will be better than today but it won't be like 10 years ago for sure. This has nothing to do with Centro casas or VM since their customer base was always Brasilians and they didn't have pockets full of $100 biills 10 years ago, this is just about Copa.

Satyr23
10-22-11, 04:39
I went to downtown Rio today in search of those elusive stunners I have been hearing so much about. I visited Rio Branco 156, Salas 3320, 2622, 1839 and 1216. Of the 20 girls I met, there was indeed one stunner, Adriana in 2622. A couple others were in the acceptable range but for the most part I was not impressed. Off to Rio Branco 181, Sala 801 is closed and based on their site,

http://www.novamassagem.com

They are now located at R. The Conceição. 19. I buzzed two times at 801 and when leaving the building discreetly confirmed with the information desk that they were indeed closed.

Next stop, Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114,

http://www.belprazer.com

8 girls and no stunners, but there was a really cute 21 year-old with a bubble butt, Milana. For those who like them young, tight and sweet you have a Bingo.

When you exit Carioca station on the metro, turn left on the same side of the street to get to Rio Branco 156. I started at the top, Sala 3320 taking the elevator to the 32nd floor and walking up on flight. From there, I just took the stairs down to 2622, 1839 and 1216. Rio Branco 181 & 185 are right across the street and to the right.

I know my way around the area and all in all it was an investment of about three hours including time on the metro. One thing I noticed is that you want to take a close look at what the tight fitting clothing is holding in. Many of the girls were not in great shape. Keep in mind results can vary because depending on the moment you are there, certain girls will be occupied. Prices that I checked were consistent with what Sperto posted in May 2011 from his March 2011 visits.Good to know about Rio Branco 801, Sala 801. I thought that might be the case, as I've been there twice now in the last week and got no answer. I guess that's why when I myself discreetly asked the info desk "Sala 801, nova massagem?" they said no and something I couldn't understand. Also good to see you didn't get bitched out for speaking to the folks at the info desk about a massage place.

Lorenzo
10-22-11, 04:55
Re: room fees. I typically try to avoid these by always booking a room for 2 people (generally the same price as one) , and when I check in, I ask for 2 keys and explain my girlfriend will be joining me later. This has typically worked in Sao Paulo even over 2 nights with different chicks. May be different in Rio.You are exactly right. I have been saying this for years on this forum, but apparently very few people listen, since I keep seeing complaints about garota fees. I have done it at nearly every major hotel in Rio and it has never failed once.

Satyr23
10-22-11, 05:10
Should be R$ 50/30, R$80-100/60. Your drink prices are reasonable but I believe you are being overcharged for the program. Even if they raised prices recently, a 50% increase would be out of line.Thanks poucolouco. The 'mamasan' lady there at the desk seems like she's just bent on ripping people off. Does anyone know of some good cheapy prives / massagems / termas in Leme? I'm trying to find something on the other side of Av. Prca. Isabel from Barbarellas.

Sperto
10-22-11, 07:35
Thanks poucolouco. The 'mamasan' lady there at the desk seems like she's just bent on ripping people off. Does anyone know of some good cheapy prives / massagems / termas in Leme? I'm trying to find something on the other side of Av. Prca. Isabel from Barbarellas.I've never seen any privê in Leme, but if you don't mind going back one block into Copacabana you'll find a few privês on Av Prado Júnior. I've only seen two of them. Unfortunately they were really ugly and smelly places.

Eurodon
10-22-11, 17:22
Thanks first to all of you for the great information provided here. Especially Bubba's and Sperto's guides and maps have been a great help to find a way throuh the city and the routines of interaction with some of its female attractions. I hope I can give you an update on some of the sights, all of them mentioned here extensively before. So please do not expect any real news from this report.

I spent some days in Rio, with a limited budget of time and money. It was my first time in Rio. It is also my first report in this forum. All in all I've been here 10 days. In between I had time for 6 mongering excursions. Since I don't know any Portuguese to get sex with a little bit of communication wasn't that easy.

I went to.

Balcony (http://www.balconyrio.com/)

Twice, since my hotel was nearby. At both times there were around 30-40 females waiting for customers at around midnight. The place is especially attractive when you don't speak Portuguese, because around 50% of the women I've talked to can handle at least a small amount of English. I didn't finish a deal with any of them, because none was meeting my expectations in terms of attractiveness. But I enjoyed sitting around, drinking a beer, watching the scene and being modestly approached by some of the girls.

I went to 4x4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44) on a Friday afternoon. Arriving at around 2. 30 I was quite early. At this time there were only around 12 girls available. When I left at 5 there were maybe 40. The number of male consumers might have risen from around 8 at 2. 30 to 20 at 5pm. I guess sparing the R$ 50 for having an intimate interaction before 5pm are only worth if you know the game and are sure about the lady you want to play with.

I was a bit in a hurry to leave 4x4 early because of non-mongering-appointments when a smaller girl with probably dyed blonde hair approached me irresistibly around 4pm. Sorry, I forgot the name. Brown skin, around 5 feet tall, breast sized B and a dragon-tattoo on her back. The girl seemed hot and willing in the club, but the session in the small cabin (with shower inside) was just routinely played be her. No real kissing, only a covered blowjob, no real enthusiasm. I wouldn't complain, but I expected something more breathtaking from the place and its girls. No one tried to rip me off or forced me to give a tip. I payed R$ 220 for the session (booked 1 hour, but stayed only 40 minutes) + R$ 10 for two waters. Nice place, nevertheless. I plan to return once after having had some lessons in Portuguese.

Some days later I went to.

Lúomo (http://www.luomo.com.br/)

(Rua Siqueira Campos 143). Most of the girls who approached me there speak English. Most of the customers seemed to be tourists. I nevertheless enjoyed it there more than at 4x4. The athmosphere seemed more relaxed, nearly all of the employees speak English and the interior quality of the club and the rooms is high. The aesthetic quality of the girls I saw seemed higher than in 4x4 too. There were around 30-40 girls when I entered on a Sunday around 8pm. 5 or 6 of them looked extremely attractive to me.

I went to the room with one of them, black hair, light brown skin, size-C-breasts, who spoke at least a little bit of English. The action was good, especially deep and wet kissing and a highly skilled BJ without condom. Some routine parts lowered the overall experience though. Sorry again for forgetting the girl's name. I'll definitely return. Costs: R$ 70 Entrance + R$ 70 Room hire 40 minutes + R$ 170 girl for 40 Minutes + R$ 12 two waters = R$ 322.

I also tried to follow Bubba's and Sperto's guides to the privees in Centro and Tijuca. I went to.

Tigresas Tijucanas (http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/)

(Rua General Roca 340/114) on a Friday afternoon at around 1pm, but there was only one girl available at the time. She didn't meet my taste. So I had to leave unsatisfied.

I also visited some of the massage places close to Carioca Metro Station. It's easy to find these places with the help of Sperto's map and not difficult to interact with the staff since everyone knows what you're there for. I've been to several places in Av Rio Branco 181, 185 and 156. All of them had at least 4 girls waiting for customers. Many of them looked really nice, but none was creating that "PLING! Take her immediately" in my head.

I finally decided for a girl at a Massage place on of the upper floors at Av Rio Branco 156. I forgot the the number of the apartment, the name of the place and that of the girl. She had light skin, dark hair, and was around 5 feet tall. The action was not quite satisfying. I received a mediocre massage for around 20 minutes, a covered BJ with a lot of distance and some routine fucking. No kissing allowed. Price was R$ 100 for 1 hour. I probably decided too intuitively for that girl. I guess I should have waited to see all the other places mentioned in Sperto's guide and decide after evaluating the choices available.

I hope I can come back to Rio with a better knowledge of Portuguese to limit the mediocre experience and heighten the better ones.

Eurodon
10-22-11, 18:35
Thanks first to all of you for the great information provided here. Especially Bubba's and Sperto's guides and maps have been a great help to find a way throuh the city and the routines of interaction with some of its female attractions. I hope I can give you an update on some of the sights, all of them mentioned here extensively before. So please do not expect any real news from this report.

I spent some days in Rio, with a limited budget of time and money. It was my first time in Rio. It is also my first report in this forum. All in all I've been here 10 days. In between I had time for 6 mongering excursions. Since I don't know any Portuguese to get sex with a little bit of communication wasn't that easy.

I went to.

http://www.balconyrio.com/ (Balcony)

Twice, since my hotel was nearby. At both times there were around 30-40 females waiting for customers at around midnight. The place is especially attractive when you don't speak Portuguese, because around 50% of the women I've talked to can handle at least a small amount of English. I didn't finish a deal with any of them, because none was meeting my expectations in terms of attractiveness. But I enjoyed sitting around, drinking a beer, watching the scene and being modestly approached by some of the girls.

I went to 4x4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44) on a Friday afternoon. Arriving at around 2. 30 I was quite early. At this time there were only around 12 girls available. When I left at 5 there were maybe 40. The number of male consumers might have risen from around 8 at 2. 30 to 20 at 5pm. I guess sparing the R$ 50 for having an intimate interaction before 5pm are only worth if you know the game and are sure about the lady you want to play with.

I was a bit in a hurry to leave 4x4 early because of non-mongering-appointments when a smaller girl with probably dyed blonde hair approached me irresistibly around 4pm. Sorry, I forgot the name. Brown skin, around 5 feet tall, breast sized B and a dragon-tattoo on her back. The girl seemed hot and willing in the club, but the session in the small cabin (with shower inside) was just routinely played by her. No real kissing, only a covered blowjob, no real enthusiasm. I wouldn't complain, but I expected something more breathtaking from the place and its girls. No one tried to rip me off or forced me to give a tip. I payed R$ 220 for the session (booked 1 hour, but stayed only 40 minutes) + R$ 10 for two waters. Nice place, nevertheless. I plan to return once after having had some lessons in Portuguese.

Some days later I went to.

http://www.luomo.com.br/ (Lúomo)

In Copacabana (Rua Siqueira Campos 143). Most of the girls who approached me there speak English. Most of the customers seemed to be tourists. I nevertheless enjoyed it there more than at 4x4. The athmosphere seemed more relaxed, nearly all of the employees speak English and the interior quality of the club and the rooms is high. The aesthetic quality of the girls I saw seemed higher than in 4x4 too. There were around 30-40 girls when I entered on a Sunday around 8pm. 5 or 6 of them looked extremely attractive to me.

I went to the room with one of them, black hair, light brown skin, size-C-breasts, who spoke at least a little bit of English. The action was good, especially deep and wet kissing and a highly skilled BJ without condom. Some routine parts lowered the overall experience though. Sorry again for forgetting the girl's name. I'll definitely return. Costs: R$ 70 Entrance + R$ 70 Room hire 40 minutes + R$ 170 girl for 40 Minutes + R$ 12 two waters = R$ 322.

I also tried to follow Bubba's and Sperto's guides to the privees in Centro and Tijuca. I went to.

http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/ (Tigresas Tijucanas)

(Rua General Roca 340/114) on a Friday afternoon at around 1pm, but there was only one girl available at the time. She didn't meet my taste. So I had to leave unsatisfied.

I also visited some of the massage places close to Carioca Metro Station. It's easy to find these places with the help of Sperto's map and not difficult to interact with the staff since everyone knows what you're there for. I've been to several places in Av Rio Branco 181, 185 and 156. All of them had at least 4 girls waiting for customers. Many of them looked really nice, but none was creating that "PLING! Take her immediately" in my head.

I finally decided for a girl at a Massage place on of the upper floors at Av Rio Branco 156. I forgot the the number of the apartment, the name of the place and that of the girl. She had light skin, dark hair, and was around 5 feet tall. The action was not quite satisfying. I received a mediocre massage for around 20 minutes, a covered BJ with a lot of distance and some routine fucking. No kissing allowed. Price was R$ 100 for 1 hour. I probably decided too intuitively for that girl. I guess I should have waited to see all the other places mentioned in Sperto's guide and decide after evaluating the choices available.

I hope I can come back to Rio with a better knowledge of Portuguese to limit the mediocre experience and heighten the better ones.

Bubba Boy
10-22-11, 18:44
Went to 4x4 last night. I usually don't like the look of the girls at this place, tend to find them older than I like and to "muscled up". Having said this there was 3 or 4 girls that I could do business with. Usually I struggle to find 1 or 2 here, so talent surprisingly good for my taste.

502, complete mess at the moment, Yeah Chocolate and Samira are there, they are ok, but the rest of the talent is weak! Hasn't been the same since 2 of the hottest and most popular girls left, I will not name them in fear of incriminating myself. The new crowd should start arriving in late November, should be better then.

Interesting to see Exec went out and hit some prives. To get the best out of the prives requires a bit of research, the hottest girls tend to not do lineups as they are booked all of the time. Once you go there a few times you can work out who the hot girls are or see any new girls. I will put up a report on how to get the best out of prives later on.

Exec, I will send you a PM with what I think are some of the hottest girls at each place. Would be interested to see what you think! Let me work on a list!

Golfinho
10-23-11, 00:03
Well what you say could be true but:

There are pros and cons to each choice here, sure a hotel has more comforts but an apartment has more freedom and is less expensive with less fees.There are pros and cons yes, but in general the rental housing stock in Rio has traditionally been substandard (except for the high-end) compared to many other places in S. A. (think Colombia). And, now with every property owner looking to cash in and exploit even more than ever, for all those who've been short-terming apartments, the hotel options are worth a reconsideration.

Prosal
10-23-11, 00:08
Exec, I will send you a PM with what I think are some of the hottest girls at each place. Would be interested to see what you think! Let me work on a list!Pretty weird to see that 99% of the posts concerning a city of 10 millions+ concerrn only mass service prostitution joints. No entertaining narratives about non-pro scoring, no funny accounts featuring lots of booze and poon, analytical overview of hyp nightlife, elaborate list of current "in" places, ect. Weid, indeed. Seems like Rio is another Tijuana.

Bubba Boy
10-23-11, 03:17
Just came back from my 4th visit to VM in 8 years of Rio. The place is quite simply a shithole. Saw my first 1. Out of a scale of 1 to 10 she was a 1. Did see a strong 9 there as well. I guess out of the 200+ women that work there there has to be some hotties. The majority are very undoable. 99% are 4-6's.

Ended up speaking to one of the security guys for about 5 minutes, zero sense of humour, very serious dude. He just came up and started to chat to me, no big deal, but scary dude. Ex Federal Police of course.

And as per Prosal's request of non pro action. I was out the other night in Lapa and was chatting to these hotties, non working girls of course and.................Oh wait a minute this forum is about hookers, WTF would one want to talk about picking up non pros on a forum about paying for sex? There is no friggin way I would write anything on here about a non working girl that I boned.

PatmarBeleza1
10-23-11, 03:29
Sourds like lorraine at 4x4.

Shé has reviews & pics on ISG to 2008.

Had her in 2010.


Thanks first to all of you for the great information provided here. Especially Bubba's and Sperto's guides and maps have been a great help to find a way throuh the city and the routines of interaction with some of its female attractions. I hope I can give you an update on some of the sights, all of them mentioned here extensively before. So please do not expect any real news from this report.

I spent some days in Rio, with a limited budget of time and money. It was my first time in Rio. It is also my first report in this forum. All in all I've been here 10 days. In between I had time for 6 mongering excursions. Since I don't know any Portuguese to get sex with a little bit of communication wasn't that easy.

I went to.

http://www.balconyrio.com/ (Balcony)

Twice, since my hotel was nearby. At both times there were around 30-40 females waiting for customers at around midnight. The place is especially attractive when you don't speak Portuguese, because around 50% of the women I've talked to can handle at least a small amount of English. I didn't finish a deal with any of them, because none was meeting my expectations in terms of attractiveness. But I enjoyed sitting around, drinking a beer, watching the scene and being modestly approached by some of the girls.

I went to 4x4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44) on a Friday afternoon. Arriving at around 2. 30 I was quite early. At this time there were only around 12 girls available. When I left at 5 there were maybe 40. The number of male consumers might have risen from around 8 at 2. 30 to 20 at 5pm. I guess sparing the R$ 50 for having an intimate interaction before 5pm are only worth if you know the game and are sure about the lady you want to play with.

I was a bit in a hurry to leave 4x4 early because of non-mongering-appointments when a smaller girl with probably dyed blonde hair approached me irresistibly around 4pm. Sorry, I forgot the name. Brown skin, around 5 feet tall, breast sized B and a dragon-tattoo on her back. The girl seemed hot and willing in the club, but the session in the small cabin (with shower inside) was just routinely played by her. No real kissing, only a covered blowjob, no real enthusiasm. I wouldn't complain, but I expected something more breathtaking from the place and its girls. No one tried to rip me off or forced me to give a tip. I payed R$ 220 for the session (booked 1 hour, but stayed only 40 minutes) + R$ 10 for two waters. Nice place, nevertheless. I plan to return once after having had some lessons in Portuguese.

Some days later I went to.

http://www.luomo.com.br/ (Lúomo)

In Copacabana (Rua Siqueira Campos 143). Most of the girls who approached me there speak English. Most of the customers seemed to be tourists. I nevertheless enjoyed it there more than at 4x4. The athmosphere seemed more relaxed, nearly all of the employees speak English and the interior quality of the club and the rooms is high. The aesthetic quality of the girls I saw seemed higher than in 4x4 too. There were around 30-40 girls when I entered on a Sunday around 8pm. 5 or 6 of them looked extremely attractive to me.

I went to the room with one of them, black hair, light brown skin, size-C-breasts, who spoke at least a little bit of English. The action was good, especially deep and wet kissing and a highly skilled BJ without condom. Some routine parts lowered the overall experience though. Sorry again for forgetting the girl's name. I'll definitely return. Costs: R$ 70 Entrance + R$ 70 Room hire 40 minutes + R$ 170 girl for 40 Minutes + R$ 12 two waters = R$ 322.

I also tried to follow Bubba's and Sperto's guides to the privees in Centro and Tijuca. I went to.

http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/ (Tigresas Tijucanas)

(Rua General Roca 340/114) on a Friday afternoon at around 1pm, but there was only one girl available at the time. She didn't meet my taste. So I had to leave unsatisfied.

I also visited some of the massage places close to Carioca Metro Station. It's easy to find these places with the help of Sperto's map and not difficult to interact with the staff since everyone knows what you're there for. I've been to several places in Av Rio Branco 181, 185 and 156. All of them had at least 4 girls waiting for customers. Many of them looked really nice, but none was creating that "PLING! Take her immediately" in my head.

I finally decided for a girl at a Massage place on of the upper floors at Av Rio Branco 156. I forgot the the number of the apartment, the name of the place and that of the girl. She had light skin, dark hair, and was around 5 feet tall. The action was not quite satisfying. I received a mediocre massage for around 20 minutes, a covered BJ with a lot of distance and some routine fucking. No kissing allowed. Price was R$ 100 for 1 hour. I probably decided too intuitively for that girl. I guess I should have waited to see all the other places mentioned in Sperto's guide and decide after evaluating the choices available.

I hope I can come back to Rio with a better knowledge of Portuguese to limit the mediocre experience and heighten the better ones.

Lorenzo
10-23-11, 03:49
Pretty weird to see that 99% of the posts concerning a city of 10 millions+ concerrn only mass service prostitution joints. No entertaining narratives about non-pro scoring, no funny accounts featuring lots of booze and poon, analytical overview of hyp nightlife, elaborate list of current "in" places, ect. Weid, indeed. Seems like Rio is another Tijuana.
And as per Prosal's request of non pro action. I was out the other night in Lapa and was chatting to these hotties, non working girls of course and.Oh wait a minute this forum is about hookers, WTF would one want to talk about picking up non pros on a forum about paying for sex? There is no friggin way I would write anything on here about a non working girl that I boned.Of course you are right, Bubba, but why even give him the satisfaction of a reply. He is nothing more than a full time provocateur and Brazil hater who has never contributed anything positive to this forum. Ignore him.

Aibolit
10-23-11, 04:26
Gentelmen. I must confess right from the start that I've never every used Viagra or anything of sorts.

After reading Bubba's report (for which I'm thankful). I've decided to perhaps give it my first try during the upcoming visit. Few questions remain, however:

1. I usually have no problem with erection. All I need to get "ready" is 30 min. Between sessions, increased to 1 hr, if I had more than 2 sessions. Will I really benefit from taking Viagra? If so, how?

2. How much ahead of time should one take it? How to time the intake, in other words?

3. Are there any side effects, particularly for first-time users?

4. What's the best way to get it in Rio or Sao Paulo?

Any feedback will be appreciated. Aibolit.

Eric Cartman
10-23-11, 05:06
Pretty weird to see that 99% of the posts concerning a city of 10 millions+ concerrn only mass service prostitution joints. No entertaining narratives about non-pro scoring, no funny accounts featuring lots of booze and poon, analytical overview of hyp nightlife, elaborate list of current "in" places, ect. Weid, indeed. Seems like Rio is another Tijuana.Hm. OK. There is a great new-ish beer bar opposite the Botofogo metro. Its the exit from Botafogo Metro towards the BACK of the train (coming from Copa) or towards the FRONT (coming from centro). Go up the stairs from the platform and through the turnstiles, turn right and head up the stairs that drop you in the middle of the small park. Turn left and it's just across the street.

http://br.kekanto.com/biz/boteco-colarinho

Boteco Colarinho.

They generally have a bunch of small Brasilian breweries' beers on draft, as well as some Belgians and USA micros. Generally a cut above the micros you find elsewhere in Rio. E. G, a lot of places might have Colorado's IPA (brewery in SP) but not their Imperial Stout (which Colarinho has). They get cool stuff like Mistura Classica's microbrewed malzbier. Also a good selection of bottles. The food, specially the pasteis, Is really good too.

It's not cheap. Think R$20-R$25 per glass of high-end Belgian beer on draft. But it's a rarity in a city that drinks Skol by the gallon.

Now, can I get back to writing about termas? This ain't Trip Advisor or Lonely Planet.

Eric Cartman
10-23-11, 05:11
Gentelmen. I must confess right from the start that I've never every used Viagra or anything of sorts.

After reading Bubba's report (for which I'm thankful). I've decided to perhaps give it my first try during the upcoming visit. Few questions remain, however:

1. I usually have no problem with erection. All I need to get "ready" is 30 min. Between sessions, increased to 1 hr, if I had more than 2 sessions. Will I really benefit from taking Viagra? If so, how?

2. How much ahead of time should one take it? How to time the intake, in other words?

3. Are there any side effects, particularly for first-time users?

4. What's the best way to get it in Rio or Sao Paulo?

Any feedback will be appreciated. Aibolit.1. Um, your penis will be able to punch through sheet metal? O. O.

2. 15-30 minutes, depending on your body chemistry.

3. Anything from facial flushing (red cheeks, red ears) to headaches can be common. But a lot of guys don't have issues with that at all.

4. Go to Drogasmil. Walk to counter. Ask for "viagra generico." Pay their standard price of R$21 or so per packet of 4 pills 50mg each. Usually the counter guy will ask you something about mg (50 or 100) and something about compromidos (pills), you want 4 per caixa / box.

I know some guys who cut a 50mg tablet into 4 pieces using a sharp knife (I think Bubba details this in his guide) and then the 1/4 piece is plenty to give them that extra boost. Or you can be a degenerate like me and take 50mg-75mg (that's 1-1. 5 pills) on a regular basis ahaha.

HelpRules
10-23-11, 07:56
Is it a he or a she? For all you Balcony lovers, here is a must see interview with Kurt Angle and his love fest with a tranny. Didn't know the whole time. Must see funny interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDt5tpfRVKc Go to the 29 minute mark if you don't want to watch the whole thing.

Satyr23
10-23-11, 12:56
I noticed Sperto's guide recommends arriving at the prives just before noon. Is this the time most of them open, or are there some earlier options?

Voyajer1
10-23-11, 13:04
Belprazer for example, opnes at 10:00 am. Anne Massagems and Tigressas Tijucanas in Tijuca and a host of others open at 9:00am. The catch is that a lot of the girls have a tendency to get to work not always on time, most of these places allow them to get to work late; however, as long as they show up within the first hour it is OK. Have fun!


I noticed Sperto's guide recommends arriving at the prives just before noon. Is this the time most of them open, or are there some earlier options?

Aibolit
10-23-11, 14:48
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1209284]1. Um, your penis will be able to punch through sheet metal? O. O.

[QUOTE]Many thanks for the advice, Cartman. Greatly appreciated.

My main apprehension is that I don't have a problem with erection per se, but with time it takes to recover between sessions. So, it seems like vitamin V can help shorten that period. In other words, in my specific case, Viagra is an impatience medicine, rather than erection help, as it is designed to be. On the other hand, there is probably a natural reason that the body needs its time, so I'm worried that my impatience will be punished by infusing my system with chemistry unnecessarily with possible side effects. Any additional advice from experienced V-users will be appreciated.

Cheers! Aibolit

Eric Cartman
10-23-11, 15:39
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1209284]1. Um, your penis will be able to punch through sheet metal? O. O.

[QUOTE]Many thanks for the advice, Cartman. Greatly appreciated.

My main apprehension is that I don't have a problem with erection per se, but with time it takes to recover between sessions. So, it seems like vitamin V can help shorten that period. In other words, in my specific case, Viagra is an impatience medicine, rather than erection help, as it is designed to be. On the other hand, there is probably a natural reason that the body needs its time, so I'm worried that my impatience will be punished by infusing my system with chemistry unnecessarily with possible side effects. Any additional advice from experienced V-users will be appreciated.

Cheers! AibolitYou may want to consult a doctor for answers to serious questions about using viagra and other drugs. I don't think this is the forum.

Java Man
10-23-11, 15:52
Many thanks for the advice, Cartman. Greatly appreciated.

My main apprehension is that I don't have a problem with erection per se, but with time it takes to recover between sessions. So, it seems like vitamin V can help shorten that period. In other words, in my specific case, Viagra is an impatience medicine, rather than erection help, as it is designed to be. On the other hand, there is probably a natural reason that the body needs its time, so I'm worried that my impatience will be punished by infusing my system with chemistry unnecessarily with possible side effects. Any additional advice from experienced V-users will be appreciated.

Cheers! AibolitCareful using V, or any other boner pill, if there is a history of heart problems in your family, (that's why you you need a doctors consultation.) V gave me a headache after I used it. I prefer Cialis, it last 36hrs. You can combine both: 36hrs after taking Cialis, take a V as a boost, then take another Cialis the next day. If you're lucky, you may get the mythical 4hr Stiffy. I've mixed C with an energy drink, that combination works better for me.

I Googled V and headaches, and found this: "Eat properly before you take your Viagra. The pill should be taken on an empty stomach for maximum effect. Avoid alcohol when you take Viagra, according to Viagra. Com. This is for several reasons: First of all, the pill will be less effective if taken with alcohol. Second, the combination of alcohol and Viagra may produce a serious hangover effect. Drink plenty of water when you take Viagra. Mild dehydration can cause a headache, and Viagra acts as a diuretic, so you will need more water than normal."

BTW, I've drank booze with C and got no headaches.

PatmarBeleza1
10-23-11, 18:30
Sounds like some members need to get la*the a little more! Bubba's and Sperto's and other experienced members on this thread I find to be invaluable, both from the objective items of who what when where but also subjective experiences like semi-relationships.

On the thread of economics influence quality. Just a pair of experiences from SKYPE calls to two top current or former GPDs. Item 1)"Your dollar is trading at 1. 85, this is great for you" Me: Uh, yeah, I guess it is (clicking on fx browser). Item 2)"How much you say your house is, house in Leblon, or Gavea, or Barra is xxx $R"

So, my point is that even in a 2 minute call, they zero right in on the BRLUSD, Commodities impact on property.

Technology impacting econ too: within last few months, new "friends" are 4x4 girls, some posted on this board. Clicking around their friends, lots of pics of other 4x4, not suprisingly.

Anyway going to get l%I'd before I flame someone.


Of course you are right, Bubba, but why even give him the satisfaction of a reply. He is nothing more than a full time provocateur and Brazil hater who has never contributed anything positive to this forum. Ignore him.

Prosal
10-24-11, 09:20
Oh wait a minute this forum is about hookers, WTF would one want to talk about picking up non pros on a forum about paying for sex? There is no friggin way I would write anything on here about a non working girl that I boned.Not at all. There is no theme imposed here. This forum is about where to find women to have sex with them: pros, non-pros, occcasionals, weekenders, whatever. To each its own. You should browse the other ISG forums more often. On some of them, like say Moscow to compare with another megapole, maybe 50% of the posts talk about non-pro scoring, and the best places where to meet them. And for some countries where P4P is inexistant but non-pro scene out of this world, like Moldova, it's 99. Anyway to reiterate, it's very weird that all the posts about a city of 10 millions + like Rio solely talk about nasty mass-service prostitution joints. Also, not that I care a lot, it was just a thought.

Prosal
10-24-11, 09:42
Now, can I get back to writing about termas? This ain't Trip Advisor or Lonely Planet.Different strokes for different folks. I read many guys (added-value posters) here who obviously find non-pro sex more valuable than P4P, and whose all contributions or requests are about where to find regular girls.

Jazzy Daddy
10-24-11, 20:09
I've been coming to this beautiful, sophisticated and culturally rich country for almost 15 years. The more fluent my Portuguese has become the more joy I have been able to extract from my visits. Talking, joking with everyday people and partaking in the celebration of Carnaval (both as spectator and participant) is pure entertainment and make my trips completely gratifying.

This past week I've been given several phone numbers without even asking and met others through the web. I've found that here in Rio, one can have both P4P and a non-pro and it seems quite normal and very accessible.

I often read the commentary of a Brazilian site and I have found it to be informative without any bickering and quite a lot of respect for one another. I'm always amazed at the quality of brasileira one can find at the casas das massagens for an hour at R80-R100, not to mention the duplas for R130-R150.

Now there also are hidden gems at the ' área de trash' like; Carioca 59, Uruguaiana 24, Buenos Aires 85, V M, etc. And I check those when I'm prowling the streets. It's interesting to see that a favorite haunt (as I've been a vegetarian for over 40 yrs and the downside of Brazil, is the food IMO) Casarão has been renovated and turned into a vegetarian restaurant.

One thing I am noticing is that, probably in preparation for the World Cup and Olympics, taxis have been applying a surcharge if they believe you to be a tourist (domestic or foreign). This charge seemed only to occur when I was taken back to my hotel. Now I've been successful in getting around the surcharge by giving the driver a different address and not the hotel where I'm staying (if you have an Apt, this probably doesn't apply) so I get dropped off a block away and no surcharge.

Well, happy prowling!

Eric Cartman
10-25-11, 01:30
This past week I've been given several phone numbers without even asking and met others through the web. I've found that here in Rio, one can have both P4P and a non-pro and it seems quite normal and very accessible.Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you please supply some actionable details on your non-pro experiences? Where are you meeting this girls? What are you doing? What are you saying? What does it lead to? What is the age / quality / etc. Of the non-pros. How would you describe yourself for context, so we can compare our chances if we are not you.

Any useful information like this can go a long way towards helping your fellow board-members. Thanks!

-Cartman

Alex Po
10-25-11, 12:00
I am going to visit in the near future Rio, I will live in a place where possibility of a wire of the visitor in number is absent.

I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.

How much easily it can be made in Rio?

Totos
10-25-11, 16:29
I am going to visit in the near future Rio, I will live in a place where possibility of a wire of the visitor in number is absent.

I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.

How much easily it can be made in Rio?If I get well your question, the best option is motel where you can rent a room (usually nice rooms or suites) for a couple of hours all day long or for a night.

These hotels are exisiting to give a place for people to have sex (tourist or locals). So you can go there without fear, they will not ask you questions about the girl with you or charge fees. There are many motels at different prices and this is not too expensive.

The only problem I faced is that they may refuse you if you are more than 2 persons. Then you need to try different ones and you will find one at the end.

A list of motel is available on this forum.

Enjoy!

Jazzy Daddy
10-25-11, 17:09
Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you please supply some actionable details on your non-pro experiences? Where are you meeting this girls? What are you doing? What are you saying? What does it lead to? What is the age / quality / etc. Of the non-pros. How would you describe yourself for context, so we can compare our chances if we are not you.

Any useful information like this can go a long way towards helping your fellow board-members. Thanks!

-CartmanWell I'm a musician (I play flute / sax and bateria) , I'm a dancer (salsa, samba, merengue, bachata, etc.). Like biggie says " dress to impress and spark the bi$%'s interest." I've met 18-28 yo's on the internet and in shops, stores, suco bars and metro. Smile, flirt and make them laugh. This is no different the world over, girls love to have fun and excitement in their life no matter what their nationality. Now this is extremely difficult if you don't speak the language or the girl doesn't speak yours. I've found that in Brazil generally speaking, girls are more open to casual acquaintances. But it really boils down to LANGUAGE, STYLE, LANGUAGE, STYLE, IMHO. Actually I don't share non-pro experiences.

Pilfers22
10-25-11, 17:24
Has anyone checked out Estetic Men?

Found their website on an old post. Looks like its right at the corner of Ipanema and Copa.

Here's their website linking to the map page: http://www.esteticmen.com/mapa.html

Mr Enternational
10-25-11, 21:22
Well I'm a musician (I play flute / sax and bateria) , I'm a dancer (salsa, samba, merengue, bachata, etc.). Like biggie says " dress to impress and spark the bi$%'s interest." I've met 18-28 yo's on the internet and in shops, stores, suco bars and metro. Smile, flirt and make them laugh. This is no different the world over, girls love to have fun and excitement in their life no matter what their nationality. Now this is extremely difficult if you don't speak the language or the girl doesn't speak yours. I've found that in Brazil generally speaking, girls are more open to casual acquaintances. But it really boils down to LANGUAGE, STYLE, LANGUAGE, STYLE, IMHO. Actually I don't share non-pro experiences.I prefer a much simpler route. Wear shorts and flip-flops, speak the language, and tell them that I eat ass!

Exec Talent
10-25-11, 21:44
Has anyone checked out Estetic Men?

Found their website on an old post. Looks like its right at the corner of Ipanema and Copa.

Here's their website linking to the map page:

http://www.esteticmen.com/mapa.htmlThis is not near Ipanema. It is beyond Barra the Tijuca.

See map.

Sperto
10-26-11, 05:52
Has anyone checked out Estetic Men?
Found their website on an old post. Looks like its right at the corner of Ipanema and Copa.
Here's their website linking to the map page: http://www.esteticmen.com/mapa.html
First I thought it looked too good to be true to have a privê like this in Copa. Several very doable girls on the site, even though a bit pricy.
When I looked at the map I got really disappointed. I don't want to go all the way to Recreio to get laid.

Genghis Khan
10-26-11, 08:07
Hey, guys.

I will most likely arrive in Rio this Friday and leave the following Wednesday. It is 10 years since I have been in Rio. I was hoping to get in touch with a local who knows the scene could show me around the termas and the clubs. I would however prefer if you joined me to these places to have fun yourself too.

I don't think it would be worth such a short trio if I did not find someone known around the block to follow in his footsteps.

BTW, I hear Monday is a national holiday. Will termas and clubs be closed / slow?

GK

Prosal
10-26-11, 11:43
I prefer a much simpler route. Wear shorts and flip-flopsTop level girls want top level guys. You must dress accordingly. If it's "down", it must be "cool down" (stylish jeans, labeled belt, nice leather shoes, trendy shirt, eye-catching watch, ect). Mid-to upper class brasileiras are very fashion-conscious by the way. Of course, if you target group is faveladas, the above has no sense (smilie).

Pilfers22
10-26-11, 13:00
Sorry for the false alarm! Seriously though that Estetic Men was in Copa area from glancing at the map.

Thanks for the correction Exec.

Poucolouco
10-26-11, 17:42
Sorry for the false alarm! Seriously though that Estetic Men was in Copa area from glancing at the map.

Thanks for the correction Exec.Glancing at the map is an understatement. The map clearly shows (twice) the address is in Recreio. Maybe it was your big eye that glanced at the map. ;)

Carrib
10-26-11, 18:26
Hey, guys.

I will most likely arrive in Rio this Friday and leave the following Wednesday. It is 10 years since I have been in Rio. I was hoping to get in touch with a local who knows the scene could show me around the termas and the clubs. I would however prefer if you joined me to these places to have fun yourself too.

I don't think it would be worth such a short trio if I did not find someone known around the block to follow in his footsteps.

BTW, I hear Monday is a national holiday. Will termas and clubs be closed / slow?

GKHey man. Do remember that Rio isn't Sampa and that said, I think you'd be most comfortable in Centaurus and Barbarella. You can also try Solarium in jardim de botanico.

Also for your culinary delight, you can try Marius, Antiquarius and for sushi I recommend Sushi Leblon (Leblon and Ipanema will have most of the trendy spots) its been two years but I will get back in a few months.

Aibolit
10-27-11, 02:51
Just to finish up the earlier discussion on Viagra:

Is it intended to:

1. Help the erection, who have trouble with it?

2. Decrease the recovery time?

3. Prolong the erection, particularly after 2-3 rounds with the girl?

4. All the above?

Please advise!

Thanks,

Aibolit

Mr Enternational
10-27-11, 04:43
Just to finish up the earlier discussion on Viagra:

Is it intended to:It's not a toy, it is a drug.

Dude, takes 2 seconds to use google.

VIAGRA is a pill used by men to treat erectile dysfunction, or ED. It can help many men who have erectile dysfunction get and keep an erection when they become sexually excited / stimulated. VIAGRA is also known by its scientific name, sildenafil citrate. ED happens when not enough blood flows to the penis, preventing an erection. Erectile dysfunction, or ED, is the medical term for difficulties achieving and keeping an erection. It is a sexual health problem that affects about 30 million men. Your doctor or healthcare professional can give you more complete information or go here for more information.

http://www.viagra.com/questions.aspx#/SD_FCP.1.1/1/?source=google&HBX_PK=s_viagra_sitelinks_commonquestions&HBX_OU=50&o=23121503|166374793|0&skwid=43100000364248054

Safado69
10-27-11, 22:02
before i start want to thank bb, ec and other contributors on this thread bc i am having a blast! this is actually second trip to rio came here in july for business for 2 days and only got to do mc and luomo. i will start with the bad and save the good for last. go easy on me events may not be chronologically correct.

balcony:

i've in ground zero (rio) for almost a week, and i have to say that balcony is freak show and sb experienced and then avoided completely lol. sure there were warnings from some of the reports on this board but damn. think mos eisley space cantina lol. there are literally all types of working girls and all ages. the market range is r$200- r$400 and you literally don't know what you are going to get. i really don't know why some of the terma girls or classier independents would mix with this crowd bc they pretty much ask for their rate.

from what i have heard from a few taxistas and terma girl friends some of the girls@balcony use drugs and need the money for drugs others are there to steal from customers to get their drugs. i also heard that the place was raided by police yesterday wednesday night because there were reports of too many ****d girls. fortunately i had written the place off my list due to the events of the prior nights. monday night saw a cute morena as we started to hit it off then she asks me if i have money. don't know if i was drunk but i thought it was a stupid question and i was pretty offended lol. why the hell would i travel 8, 000 miles for bunda and not expect to pay for bunda? then tuesday i brought a girl back to my apartment and she asked for her money upfront at that point i was turned off bc i am so accustomed to the whole gfe terma or casa scene so for me it was a sign that the session wouldn't go too well. i had to dismiss her without any scene r$50 wasted.

friday monte carlo: the first time i came here i had an incredible threesome (bebel and jana) so it was great to be remembered. my mission this week bang all the mulatas and negras in the house lol. after a couple of drinks and getting reacquainted with the ladies i went up to the cabine with debra. omg the way this girl sucks and spits nuff said. ok so i show up and then head back up to the boate and i see this thin mulata hannah with an awesome little ass and i was determined not to miss my opportunity to get her "first". amazing cartman you were so right. the energy this girl puts in her work is a sight to behold. damage r$900+. slow down young man. btw the cowboy was there again this guys is so cool hahaha.

saturday: get there early bc i am still thinking about the hannah and i tell bebel it's my birthday and i want t recreate that that last memory. so the 3 of us get the big suite with the jacuzzi and it's on. hannah sport fucking me on one end and bebel's perfect tits in my face what more can a guy ask for. all and all a wonderful night. damage r$900+. at this rate going to have to call chase to lift fraud alert.

sunday: not much to report i did manage to have successful night at balcony girl with no incident. needed to rest also.

monday 4x4 and terma 65:

took advice on the board and headed down to centro early to arrive at 3pm. you guys were right i have never seen so much ass in my life but i felt that it was more quantity over quality. i did session with mayara and her silicon friends. real pro service was incredible not the best looking by far but definitely money's worth. total damage was like r$280 (free entrance). place is definitely one of the best bang for buck imo i just prefer more feminine chicks not bomba girls. i was conflicted to return back to my copa but my greedy side won and ended up at terma 65.

i don't think this place gets the credit it deserves but i think the quality of women was exceptional a little higher than luomo and mc. the clientele also is more upscale. i think the entrance is on the high side (approx r$80) but justified as they cater to professional and exec types. anyway i ended up with the hot bow legged mulata lavina and was not disappointed. i think the damage with 1 drink was about r$370. she gave me her number and actually took a 3hr van ride this morning from jacarepagua to my apartment. we fucked each others brains out from 10am. 12pm before she went to work.

tuesday:

did nothing during the day suffering from fever, sore throat too much kissing lol.

a* from mc came to the apartment. underestimated this morena she is a champ and oh so very cool and resourceful. she wasn't even expecting money. damage r$250.

wednesday:

mc again. i am so predictable this time i did the do with hicah another mulata gostosa. so it's thursday evening i am almost fully recovered and there is a halloween party at mc should be interesting. i have 2 days left and will hit up luomo.

peace.

ps sperto next time i'll try the prives.

Aibolit
10-28-11, 02:25
It's not a toy, it is a drug.I am aware. But, I think it's safe to assume that many hobbysts who do NOT have ED do use ivatamin-V. That is why a posed a question. I don't have ED. But, after 1-2 times with a girl over a short period of time, it's progressively harder to keep it up for a prolonged period of time. Therefore, I do wonder, if experienced mongers here find it helpful to use V in these cases. The alternative, of course, is to do it natural and just wait for 2 hours to recover.

Aibolit

Rio Bob
10-28-11, 02:47
Just to finish up the earlier discussion on Viagra:

Is it intended to:

1. Help the erection, who have trouble with it?

2. Decrease the recovery time?

3. Prolong the erection, particularly after 2-3 rounds with the girl?

4. All the above?

Please advise!

Thanks,

Aibolit1. Help the erection, who have trouble with it?
You will have an erection as if you were 21 years old again, which I assume you're not.

2. Decrease the recovery time?
Yes and even after a few days or even a week of hard mongering, you can rise to the occasion again in short amount of time.

3. Prolong the erection, particularly after 2-3 rounds with the girl?
Yes even if you can't shoot another load today, you can still keep hard and pump away.

4. All the above? Yes

Brazil Specialist
10-28-11, 09:34
Hey, guys.

I will most likely arrive in Rio this Friday and leave the following Wednesday. It is 10 years since I have been in Rio. I was hoping to get in touch with a local who knows the scene could show me around the termas and the clubs. I would however prefer if you joined me to these places to have fun yourself too.

I don't think it would be worth such a short trio if I did not find someone known around the block to follow in his footsteps.

BTW, I hear Monday is a national holiday. Will termas and clubs be closed / slow?

GKI often enjoy showing people around. Depends on my time and mood. A few caveats:

I am a daytime person. I know plenty of places that open 10 am or even earlier. I rarely go anywhere after 6 pm.

I usually don't frequent any of the typical tourist places like expensive termas, much less balcony. I like the typical massage parlors, private introductions to semi pros, etc.

I still rent out suites in my apartment. I started renting out on a non-monger site with much success, but I have much more fun with mongers. The semi pro girl stop by at unpredictable times. If there is a monger here, everyone is happy. Hooking them up with someone who stays elsewhere is too troublesome. I usually get attacked for spamming when I post about this. So everyone loses: the mongers who only can go to the regular tourist traps, the girls who don't get money, and I who just have less fun and company.

So feel free to send PM with phone and email. My email usually ends up in your spam filter, so make susearch there.

Camelot13
10-28-11, 12:38
I was hanging out with some GP's but in a friend situation. The top layer of clothing comes off and. #$%$! It is now obvious to anyone within 100 yards of us that the Gringos had brought their "dates" to the beach. The girl I had with me was wearing a bikini she had bought for the occasion, and it was very normal. But I had told her to do it. The others. Dental floss on the lower section is not so bad as even a mom can get away with that a bit but in front. It needs to be wider then an inch or two. Also, no normal girl has to adjust her top to keep her nipple from showing. It was very lucky that the location was out of my normal haunts.

If you are passing through Rio, it is not big deal but even when doing that, think a bit. If you are older, heavy and not so big on fashion, and she is beautiful and in her early twenties, then going to a nice dinner or anywhere for that matter requires her to tone it down. Lots of decent places used to turn such a couple away at the door if it was too obvious.

I had a great time with a few girls from Barbarella's the other night. Going home at noon always poses an issue. The one girl pulled a dress and flip flops out of her purse. Very cool. The other one had to be dropped off a bit from her house and was irritated about it. I can see her point. No one wants to be the GP getting home at noon in front of everyone.

Bubba Boy
10-28-11, 13:55
One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100 - R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.

Brazil Specialist
10-28-11, 17:03
Gentelmen. I must confess right from the start that I've never every used Viagra or anything of sorts.

After reading Bubba's report (for which I'm thankful). I've decided to perhaps give it my first try during the upcoming visit. Few questions remain, however:

1. I usually have no problem with erection. All I need to get "ready" is 30 min. Between sessions, increased to 1 hr, if I had more than 2 sessions. Will I really benefit from taking Viagra? If so, how?Well, maybe you don't need it. Maybe you use it as backup in case a chick misbehaves and you go limp.

But if you could use more or more frequent hardness, it can help.


2. How much ahead of time should one take it? How to time the intake, in other words?I strongly disagree with the other answer.

The official reply is : 1 hour, and not a full stomach.

If you want it faster: put it under the tongue and let it melt really slowly, for 5 minutes or so, so it enters the blood stream directly. That is mandatory in case you are stuffed from a huge buffet. If you are not stuffed, then 20 minutes will do, after letting it melt in your mouth.

Be aware you might not want to kiss the girl during this time and your tongue might look white or blue.


3. Are there any side effects, particularly for first-time users?Try the lowest quantity. NEVER take an entire 100 mg pill unless you have experience that you need that.

You should try max 25 mg first, then add a little if it is not enough, or if several hours have passed. I just bite it off a 100 mg piece.

If you take more then necessary, then the effect will stay the same, the side effects will go up.

I sometimes get light headaches. I try to drink more water, not sure how much that helps.

You are supposed NOT to drink alcohol, at least not beyond very small amounts. Everyone does, but you are on your own.


4. What's the best way to get it in Rio or Sao Paulo?Yes, pharmacies.

There are plenty of Indian places that sell legit generics that are legal in India. I have bought 10 times in the last 4 years from here.

http://viagragenerics.longlovetabs.com/

Larger amounts are better deals

Brazil Specialist
10-28-11, 17:12
Just came back from my 4th visit to VM in 8 years of Rio. The place is quite simply a shithole. Saw my first 1. Out of a scale of 1 to 10 she was a 1. Did see a strong 9 there as well. I guess out of the 200+ women that work there there has to be some hotties. The majority are very undoable. 99% are 4-6's.I met my first 1 in Vila Mimosa, too. 5 year, loudmouth, pear shaped body (everything thin except the belly) , one tooth (no teeth would at least be a good BJ) , unkempt hair, .

And the general dirty atmosphere is too filthy even for me. I am shocked that some gringos go there and enjoy the filthy cabins. I know other places for the same price or less that are much cleaner. Or pay R$ 50 and to go a Tijuca massage parlor.


Thanks first to all of you for the great information provided here. Especially Bubba's and Sperto's guides and maps have been a great help to find a way throuh the city and the routines of interaction with some of its female attractions. I hope I can give you an update on some of the sights, all of them mentioned here extensively before. So please do not expect any real news from this report.

I spent some days in Rio, with a limited budget of time and money. It was my first time in Rio. It is also my first report in this forum.Limited budget? You went to all the places I consider expensive.

But, for a newcomer, finding cheaper places is a bit of work. Send me a PM with your phone and email next time, maybe you catch me in the mood to take you somewhere (daytime only!).

Sperto
10-28-11, 17:44
I know other places for the same price or less that are much cleaner.Not that VM is so cheap anymore, but Carioca 59, Uruguaiana 24, Buenos Aires 85 are cheaper (at least if you take quickie) but not overwhelmingly clean.

I know that you have mentioned before that you know other places that are cheaper and cleaner. Would you like to share that info I'm sure we all would appreciate it.

Torgoch
10-28-11, 19:01
. ended up at Terma 65. with the hot bow legged mulata Lavina and was not disappointed. I think the damage with 1 drink was about R$370. She gave me her number and actually took a 3hr van ride this morning from Jacarepagua to my apartment. We fucked each others brains out from 10am. 12pm before she went to work.So my 4x4 favourite has ended up at T65! . I'm in Rio in 3 weeks time, I'll check her out. Thanks for the intel

Jan 156
10-28-11, 19:26
No, not as cheap as it was, but in 8-10 years I still like it for the atmosphere of fun. The closest I've come to it is Sonsgachi in Calcutta, but there are fewer smiling faces, more destitute horrors. VM tends to be more honest and upfront and more varied (in my opinion) than the upscale termas where the girls have a more standardised charm routine (this is a purely personal opinion, many will disagree). And although the rooms (with the very occasional exception) revoltingly filthy, the girls (with the very occasional exception) are beautifully clean. There is something about VM that attracts the spirit of adventure in the monger in me. It has also been the case that the most beautiful women I've personally punted with in Rio (I mean in decent light and with make-up off) have hailed from VM. They are often quite fresh from the country, would feel intimidated by the pressure of Balcony or 4x4. Now if I was visiting on business and had to change out of a suit, my nose would probably turn up. As would the idea of sorting through 200 or more. Though I'd add that the best girls are often less visible and also require patience. They can just work at peak time and rarely have to pop their head out of the room (or their own room, as sometimes the girls live on-site and have a room punters don't generally get to see.

I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM. In cheapness, yes Carioca 59 and the other city dives offer a cheaper bang, but hardly places I want to hang out for hours kicking back with a beer or going from bar to bar as some hottie enforces her latest favourite music, shaking her ass with the force of an approaching truck.

Whatever your joy, enjoy it.

Christopherd.

(yes, I'm more of a Belem fan these days, and m currently writing from a brief stay in Egypt. A seriously abysmal and dangerously bustable mongering zone! But of all the Rio p4p attractions, it is VM that draws me back.

Prophetw007
10-29-11, 04:22
One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.Most of the beautiful girls are out of the country on the circuit. Spain, England, United States during the non summer months. Where they can make more. They have been doing it for years. Now that Brazil ecomomy has picked up more are doing for longer periods of time. They are recruiting other girls too!

Euro100
10-29-11, 05:17
I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM.Chris,

I suppose that I am a member of the "posher" community. But no flaming from me. We all like different things, and it's all good with me. Since our last trip together to VM, I went back a few times, just for kicks. I have even found a place where you can take a dump (with toilet paper!) there. So it's all good. But overall it's too hard for me to sift through all that rubble to find the occasional gem. Since time is much more precious to me than money, I generally just do the easy thing, though.

What's the easy thing? Hitting L'uomo, talking English, paying for some booze, hanging out with 3 or 4 well-groomed hotties, having a great big party, doing one or two there, chwing the fat with the other tourists, then picking someone for TLN. Yes, much more expensive; yes, much less adventurous. But for a few hundred R I can really get the royal treatment. Definitely worth it to me.

Still, next time we meet up in Rio I will let you drag me again to the underbelly of the city. 'cause there is also a bit of an adventurer in me.

Peace.

Euro

PatmarBeleza1
10-29-11, 05:24
I think this is a really great post, and completely accurate as to my experience in a mini relationship. The girl ended up staying with her mother in Zona Norte, in Realengo / Bangu, with her son. For $1000 or $1500 R a month, I could have been in the position your describe. She's now out in Campo Grande, Zona Oest. Except, she is nuts, but great in the sack. I was in touch with her to see her when I went down to RJ in Feb, and then again in May, but ended up following advice of a buddy who said, she will just manipulate you in her environment, so I did my own usual tour of termas and agencies in Rio when I got in Brazil. But in 09 and 10, she was by far the best GDP ever. If there is one like her, there are five. That's 5 out of 150 in 3 years, but I actually think this kind of mini-relationship is a good option. Anyway, good post.

By contrast, here in the states, I have a friend who just told me that his wife is divorcing him after 10 years and 20 days of marriage. 10 years being the cut off for some level of full alimony.

Anyway. Got to get back to RJ.


One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.

Sperto
10-29-11, 08:24
No, not as cheap as it was, but in 8-10 years I still like it for the atmosphere of fun. The closest I've come to it is Sonsgachi in Calcutta, but there are fewer smiling faces, more destitute horrors. VM tends to be more honest and upfront and more varied (in my opinion) than the upscale termas where the girls have a more standardised charm routine (this is a purely personal opinion, many will disagree). And although the rooms (with the very occasional exception) revoltingly filthy, the girls (with the very occasional exception) are beautifully clean. There is something about VM that attracts the spirit of adventure in the monger in me. It has also been the case that the most beautiful women I've personally punted with in Rio (I mean in decent light and with make-up off) have hailed from VM. They are often quite fresh from the country, would feel intimidated by the pressure of Balcony or 4x4. Now if I was visiting on business and had to change out of a suit, my nose would probably turn up. As would the idea of sorting through 200 or more. Though I'd add that the best girls are often less visible and also require patience. They can just work at peak time and rarely have to pop their head out of the room (or their own room, as sometimes the girls live on-site and have a room punters don't generally get to see.

I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM. In cheapness, yes Carioca 59 and the other city dives offer a cheaper bang, but hardly places I want to hang out for hours kicking back with a beer or going from bar to bar as some hottie enforces her latest favourite music, shaking her ass with the force of an approaching truck.
Just spot-on.
I agree 100%.

I have even found a place where you can take a dump (with toilet paper!) there.
A toilet with toilet paper in VM, that's very rare. Could you even lock the door?
I've been to VM countless times. Lots of weird things have happened to me at VM (a fire in the cabin is one of them), but luckily I never had to take a dump at VM. That would be a nightmare.
Taking a dump before heading to VM makes part of the pre-battle-preparations.

Timmy99
10-29-11, 19:32
One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.Yeah. I think this is fairly common in brazilian culture (ajuda). I think it is probably more common in American culture than most people realize. I've done this with a terma girl in the past; who is one of the sexiest girls I know in Rio. I also hang out with two different big bunda porn stars who are talked about on this board. Neither of whom works anymore; but I'm sure both see other guys. Good gig if you can find it

Genghis Khan
10-30-11, 14:35
Two days ago I went to Centaurus. Big selection of girls but none really stood out as my type. They were either too big / muscular or too skinny. I prefer fit cury girls, but not the steriod types (there are exceptions though). Anyway I first took a petite loira and a slender morena for a dupla. It was OK, but nothing spectacular.

After the session I went back to the boite and found two fellow countrymen there (I hardly ever meet any on my tips to SP). We had some drinks and chatted a bit before this really amazing looking blonde walks in. Her face reminded a lot of Jessica Alba but this girls body was better. Nicer legs, ass and tits. About the same height.

We started talking and she passed the screening process with flying colors. In the room she turned out not to be so good though and wouldn't even come through on her promises. Still I would have had regrets if I had passed on her.

My energy level was now at rock bottom, so I left for dinner after having promised my fellow countrymen to meet at Balcony later that night.

Before I went to Centaurus I had lunch at Satyricon and dinner was at Olympe. Both were very good.

After dinner I took a taxi to Balcony where my friends alteady had a table and waved me over. The place was very crowded but the quality of girls was very low. I did spot a couple of nice ones though. I told myself to shortlist three girls and leave if none of them passed screening. I did however only manage to spot two sparking my interest. One was a tall morena in a grey dress with facial similarities to Beyonce. The other was a loira with blue eyes and a nice tan. I tried for about an hour to get eyecontact with either without luck when I finally managed to get eyecontact and waved over the morena.

After first having a bottle of white wine for lunch, then a couple of caipirinhas at Centaurus, a bottle of red wine at Olympe and two caipirinhas while waiting at Balcony my judgement was probably a little off course, but when I made a deal with her to stay the night for R$200 and she seemed like a great girl I thought I had struck gold.

However when she came out of the dress, she was not what I had hoped. I was obviously not what she had hoped either because during round two in the bed I fell asleep when she gave me a BBBJ. I had arrived that morning with no sleep on the overnight flight and with no sleep during the entire day either my energy was gone. She became furious and left after I had paid her. She left me her number though and demanded I banged her the next day. I was more than happy to just go to sleep without having managed to pop during any of the sessions.

GK

Exec Talent
10-30-11, 21:38
Safado69,

Fantastic pictures of a super hottie. I got to say I do not understand why such a beautiful girl would get an ink job all over her body, but in Brazil I am seeing this more and more.

Major kudos!

Rio Bob
10-30-11, 22:09
Before I went to Centaurus I had lunch at Satyricon and dinner was at Olympe. Both were very good.

After first having a bottle of white wine for lunch, then a couple of caipirinhas at Centaurus, a bottle of red wine at Olympe and two caipirinhas while waiting at Balcony my judgement was probably a little off course, but when I made a deal with her to stay the night for R$200 and she seemed like a great girl I thought I had struck gold.

GKThis is the best of Rio, this is living, good for you, enjoy and please post your next exploits.

Genghis Khan
10-31-11, 12:08
I slept very late this morning in order to try to catch up on lost sleep and recover from a little hangover. At 3 o'clock I took a taxi to Sushi Leblon for lunch. Sushi Leblon is good, but not up to the level of the best Japanese restaurants in Sao Paulo. They do have a few specialities worth trying though. I did however enjoy both restaurants from the day before even more.

After lunch I had an agreement to meet a friend at terma Monte Carlo. He knows his way around Rio and had suggested Monte Carlo for this Saturday. When I arrived he was alteady present and welcomed me by introducing me to one of his favourites. She was very much my type. Her face has some Asian similarities, the stomach was nice and tight, nice skin tone, a little taller than the girls from the day before, long slender legs and a perfectly curved ass. I liked her a lot. We fooled around a bit in the boite before going to the room. I did not bother asking her out since she was a recomendation from my friend.

In the room she was very good. A long BBBJ with deep throating. My balls got their treatment too. Her ass was truly great and her reverse cowgirl, then doggie style gave a really nice view. I was however not recovered from the lack of sleep and a little jetlag, so when the time was up I had not yet managed to pop. I told her that we should take a break and return to bed a little later.

What I didn't know was that she had two bookings my other clients. So after a little fooling around in the boite, she told me she had to go but we could hook up again in two and a half hours if I wanted to. My energy level was low, so I decided to wait for my friend to finish his session and join him for drinks outside the terma. While waiting for him I met some new friends.

When my friend returned we left and stopped at a street food stand for a quick bite before having a few drinks at another place. When I finally made it to bed, it was over midnight.

After my first two days in Rio I would like to make a small comparison to SP which is where I am used to travelling. From what I have seen so far, the looks of the garotas are of pretty similar standards although SP might have more typical Euro types with white skin, blue / green eyes and blonde hair while Rio has more "typical Brazilian" morenas with that nice bunda. What is making the most important differance to me so far is the setting in which you are serviced by the girls. I am used to an environment similar to a club / restaurant where you are dressed normally and the events proceed in a "more natural datelike" manner and you bring the girl back to your hotel to spend the night. You normally get a couple of rounds in bed before you go to sleep and a BJ in the morning before she leaves (which is my absolute favourite). This quite a bit more expensive than the Rio setting, but this gives me a more clinical institusion like setting where you make appointments by the hour and are dressed in robes. The Rio setting gives you the chance to take another girl when your appointment is over which you can't when you have brought the girl to the hotel in SP. However the session in Rio termas are limited by time which also adds to an institusionlized feeling. I am sure this is just a matter of getting more acustomed to the Rio approach, but so far edges the SP experiences ahead of Rio so far. However to be fair I have not been here long, it has been a weekend and the selection of girls will probably be better during the week. I can't wait to go to 4x4 during the week.

GK

Camelot13
10-31-11, 14:23
Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!I have done this and it can be nice compromise. You are paying them to stay home and not bring a disease into the relationship. The biggest issue is how much time you have to devote to her. If she gets bored. Well you know. I also have some friends / GP's that I know did this and that was their biggest issue. They missed doing stuff. You can imagine how boring it would be to go from a terma lifestyle to being alone at home all the time. Also they are used to making more money so that sort of wears on them. I think if you live in Brasil, it is better to just make her your gf for real. If you don't then just skip it.

Genghis Khan
10-31-11, 14:51
I slept late and had lunch at Fasano al Mare. It is white truffle season, so they had a special menu set up in addition to their regular menu. This is an extremely expensive restaurant and I can't really say it was that great. My risotto was overcooked and even though it was serve with a really generous shave of white truffle done at the table, it was a true disapoinment for R$505. With my starter and a bottle of red wine it turned out to be an okay meal but with their astronomical prices the meal was in no way near worth the money.

After the meal I took a taxi to L'uomo using Bubba Boy's guide it was easy to find. Since this was a Sunday the selection was pretty limited. No girl really stood out as a first choice. After a while a tall slim morena came over to me in the bar and introduced herself. She recognized me from Cafe Photo in Sao Paulo where we met a couple of years ago.

We fooled around a bit in the boite and she had exactly the tongue gymnastic skills I was looking for. I never took her out from Cafe Photo, so I did not know how she was in bed. She also wore a one piece bathing suite which could have been to hide something but I decided to go with my instincts anyway. I told her though that I was only interested in a BBBJ. She told me no problem as long as I didn't come in her mouth.

I honestly don't remember if the bathing suite did hide something she didn't want to show because it really didn't matter. For an hour she gave me the best BBBJ of this trip so far with a really great variety of techniques. Again I could not pop but wow, I enjoyed that.

After returning to the boite I found my friends from last night. I noticed some new girls had arrived an one in particular sparked my interest. She was occupied with another client though. Having nothing else to do I decided to wait for her and soon they left for a cabine.

Time passed and she never returned, so I left ten minutes before closing time and took a taxi to Barbarellas. It was dead and the girls were not attractive at all. So I left and headed back to the hotel.

GK

Rio Bob
10-31-11, 15:54
I slept late and had lunch at Fasano al Mare. It is white truffle season, so they had a special menu set up in addition to their regular menu. This is an extremely expensive restaurant and I can't really say it was that great. My risotto was overcooked and even though it was serve with a really generous shave of white truffle done at the table, it was a true disapoinment for R$505. With my starter and a bottle of red wine it turned out to be an okay meal but with their astronomical prices the meal was in no way near worth the money.

GKYou like to eat good but those prices are crazy, these are 3 of my favorites if they are not already on your radar:

http://www.doncamillo.com.br/

http://milanodoc.com.br/

http://www.frommers.com/destinations/riodejaneiro/N27642.html

Genghis Khan
10-31-11, 16:17
Thanks Sangue Bon,

I will check out your recomendations. White truffles are very expensive anywhere in the world. When I order that I of course know it is expensive and this is also indicated on the menu. It was not so much the price I find outragous, but that the quality was not top notch. When a chef is trusted to handle ingredients like this at prices like this an overcooked risotto is simply unacceptable.

I expected quality on par with what you get at Fasano in SP. Sadly it was really a stretch to that level.

GK

Eric Cartman
11-01-11, 01:01
I slept late and had lunch at Fasano al Mare. It is white truffle season, so they had a special menu set up in addition to their regular menu. This is an extremely expensive restaurant and I can't really say it was that great. My risotto was overcooked and even though it was serve with a really generous shave of white truffle done at the table, it was a true disapoinment for R$505. With my starter and a bottle of red wine it turned out to be an okay meal but with their astronomical prices the meal was in no way near worth the money.

GKThe Fasano is the most overpriced hotel I know in Ipanema. I have business colleagues who always stay there and it is at least USD$500 / night. Plus they charge outrageous prices for internet, like R$70 or something. We had an hour conference call there with the US and they tried to charge us something crazy like R$3000. Sorry to hear the meal wasn't up to snuff.

It's how I feel about T65 these days. For R$400 (hour plus water plus entrada) you expect premium-shelf girls, but the talent there has been weak since last February / March. If I didn't have 1-2 favs there it would be bleak indeed.

Tough day here for the Cartman. Not only did I have 2 street churros (with doce de leite) and a lot of espresso, but I asked 2 girls at 4x4 (who I thought I would session with) if there was anything they didn't like, and they both said they don't let guys come in their mouths. Sad day indeed. I had to walk away from both, but not before one had stung me for a R$16 capivodka (she had started at a RedBull & Vodka, but I talked her down). What the heck is up with that?

Camelot13
11-01-11, 03:22
The Fasano is the most overpriced hotel I know in Ipanema.No idea on the hotel but the bar has one of the highest ratios of hot girls to guys that I have seen anywhere in Rio. Now at the prices of a drink there, who knows what type of girl we are looking at.

Pilfers22
11-01-11, 15:37
During non-rush hour, high traffic times (if that exists?) , is it reasonable to take a cab from Ipanema to Centro to hit up T65 and 4X4, or is it way better taking the subway?

Headed to Rio for the first time in January.

Torgoch
11-01-11, 19:47
During non-rush hour, high traffic times (if that exists?) , is it reasonable to take a cab from Ipanema to Centro to hit up T65 and 4X4, or is it way better taking the subway?

Headed to Rio for the first time in January.Take the subway, it is cheap, clean, quick and safe. Get off at Uruguiana Station, follow the exit signs for Rio Branco. When you come out of the subway you will be in the zoo that is uruguiana market, cross over the road and veer slightly right and walk up Rua Alfandega to Rio Branco (on the corner of Alfandega and Branco is Termas 502) , cross over the road and walk one block up and that brings you to Buenos Aires. 4x4 is about 50 yards down on the left. Alternatively cross over at the market, walk past Rua Alfandega and the next road on the left is Buenos Aires, walk up here (past the infamous number 85 on the right!) and cross staright over at the lights for 4x4.

Whether you subway there and back is up to you. Some people don't like to walk around Centro after dark. I have had no problems and not felt threatened on a work day walking around Centro (from Praca Maua up to Carioca) as late as midnight. In contrast midday in Centro on a Saturday felt more threatening. Just know where you are going (look at a map online beforehand) and try to look like someone who has just knocked off work and is heading home rather than someone who has just knocked off a sex bunny.

Have fun!

Pilfers22
11-01-11, 19:55
Thanks Torgoch!


Take the subway, it is cheap, clean, quick and safe. Get off at Uruguiana Station, follow the exit signs for Rio Branco. When you come out of the subway you will be in the zoo that is uruguiana market, cross over the road and veer slightly right and walk up Rua Alfandega to Rio Branco (on the corner of Alfandega and Branco is Termas 502) , cross over the road and walk one block up and that brings you to Buenos Aires. 4x4 is about 50 yards down on the left. Alternatively cross over at the market, walk past Rua Alfandega and the next road on the left is Buenos Aires, walk up here (past the infamous number 85 on the right!) and cross staright over at the lights for 4x4.

Whether you subway there and back is up to you. Some people don't like to walk around Centro after dark. I have had no problems and not felt threatened on a work day walking around Centro (from Praca Maua up to Carioca) as late as midnight. In contrast midday in Centro on a Saturday felt more threatening. Just know where you are going (look at a map online beforehand) and try to look like someone who has just knocked off work and is heading home rather than someone who has just knocked off a sex bunny.

Have fun!

Ifee Irie
11-02-11, 03:33
Hi fellow mongers,

This is my second post on ISG. I want to visit next February for the Carnaval in Bahia with some friends and I've never been to Brazil. My portuguese sucks, I've read about all the dangers and I need help. Frankly, how are the pros and non pros around that period, which hotels are girl friendly, safe and cheap, and where are the best places for action? Preferably hotels close to the carnaval routes. Also, what is the cheapest airline from NY to the place and do they have cheap jetblue type airlines in the country? We were considering visiting Rio and other places.

Thanks

Jan 156
11-02-11, 05:37
Hi fellow mongers,

This is my second post on ISG. I want to visit next February for the Carnaval in Bahia with some friends and I've never been to Brazil. My portuguese sucks, I've read about all the dangers and I need help. Frankly, how are the pros and non pros around that period, which hotels are girl friendly, safe and cheap, and where are the best places for action? Preferably hotels close to the carnaval routes. Also, what is the cheapest airline from NY to the place and do they have cheap jetblue type airlines in the country? We were considering visiting Rio and other places.

ThanksWelcome to the board. I can't help you much with NY flights info (try Kayak or a flight search comparison engine?) but the rest of your post needs to be more specific. Brazil is the size of the USA after all, with maybe as much mongering in one large city as in the whole of the States put together. If you are going to Bahia, do you mean Salvador? There are people on here who can assist you if that is the case. Rio is not in Bahia of course.

Genghis Khan
11-02-11, 12:18
I found my new favourite Brazilian girl at 4x4 yesterday. We spent 5 hours together in the room. She promised that next time I am in town I can call her and she will come over instead.

Her body is a real work of art. Pure perfection in an all natural package.

GK

Voyajer1
11-02-11, 12:33
For a while I thought you were going to give up on Rio. It takes time to find that one girl that makes the journey worth your time, but once you do, everything else is pure gravy. I would not ask you how much a 5 hour jaunt at 4 X 4 ran for you, but we know from your previous exploits that it was a drop in the bucket. We hope to hear more about this amazing find of yours and continue having a blast!


I found my new favourite Brazilian girl at 4x4 yesterday. We spent 5 hours together in the room. She promised that next time I am in town I can call her and she will come over instead.

Her body is a real work of art. Pure perfection in an all natural package.

GK

Genghis Khan
11-02-11, 12:50
I paid for 4 hours. Normal 4x4 rate. They let us stay in the room an hour extra at no charge while they took care the other last clients settlement / payment.

The manager is really nice. She took the second entry fee off my bill when I arrived the second time on the same day on Monday.

GK

Eric Cartman
11-02-11, 15:24
I paid for 4 hours. Normal 4x4 rate. They let us stay in the room an hour extra at no charge while they took care the other last clients settlement / payment.

The manager is really nice. She took the second entry fee off my bill when I arrived the second time on the same day on Monday.

GKWhat did you do in the room for 4 hours? . Do tell.

Genghis Khan
11-02-11, 15:51
Hey Cartman,

As you have probably understood, I am not really all that interested in the "bang her for half an hour and leave her" routine which the termas are set up to offer. I don't relax enough to finish off when I am just waiting for the buzzer to go off telling me time is up. The experince at least until I get used to it is a little too institusion like and mechanical for me. I am more interested in what seems more like a "date" situation. I like to get the illusion of a connection beyond just the sex. A girl that manage to make me believe she likes me will be preferable to me over a girl who just gives the impression of wanting to finish off as fast as possible to get the next guy. I of course know its all not real, but that is what I look for in addition to looks and the sexual performance of course.

So when I found this girl who fit the describtion and I really liked her in every way, I wanted to make the experience as close to what I normally enjoy as possible. So I booked her for the rest of the evening. It paid off. I managed to finish off.

We did of course not go at it straight for the entire time.

I really don't care if she could have been grabbed at Balcony for R$200 for the night. The experience I got was worth the money to me. I would however not pay that much again if it could be set up differantly.

You know who the girl is. I hope I didn't step on your turf or make something difficult for you.

PS! I am not saying she can be picked up at Balcony for R$200, I am just making a point.

GK

Eric Cartman
11-02-11, 18:30
Hey Cartman,

As you have probably understood, I am not really all that interested in the "bang her for half an hour and leave her" routine which the termas are set up to offer. I don't relax enough to finish off when I am just waiting for the buzzer to go off telling me time is up. The experince at least until I get used to it is a little too institusion like and mechanical for me. I am more interested in what seems more like a "date" situation. I like to get the illusion of a connection beyond just the sex. A girl that manage to make me believe she likes me will be preferable to me over a girl who just gives the impression of wanting to finish off as fast as possible to get the next guy. I of course know its all not real, but that is what I look for in addition to looks and the sexual performance of course.

So when I found this girl who fit the describtion and I really liked her in every way, I wanted to make the experience as close to what I normally enjoy as possible. So I booked her for the rest of the evening. It paid off. I managed to finish off.

We did of course not go at it straight for the entire time.

I really don't care if she could have been grabbed at Balcony for R$200 for the night. The experience I got was worth the money to me. I would however not pay that much again if it could be set up differantly.

You know who the girl is. I hope I didn't step on your turf or make something difficult for you.

PS! I am not saying she can be picked up at Balcony for R$200, I am just making a point.

GKYeh I understand. No worries here. The irony is that she did used to work at Balcony, and sometimes goes back haha!

After I saw her a few times at 4x4, I had her over to the apartment and it only cost me about R$2-300, and I'm sure you could work something similar out if you are here for a while.

I was just wondering how to spend 240 minutes in small room with her haha (insert smiley emoticon if the board software would let me).

Genghis Khan
11-02-11, 21:00
Ha-ha! Thats actually quite funny! I do however not regret it. It makes me aware of what I need to pay next time though.

I guess some like the girl with the crooked teeth, some like the mother and others prefer the grandmother. I guess the grandmother was my favourite this time. Ha-ha!

240 minutes (actually it was 5 hours. So 300 minutes) can go by pretty fast when you have your dick in a beautiful woman.

GK

Auriflama
11-03-11, 01:46
I found my new favourite Brazilian girl at 4x4 yesterday. We spent 5 hours together in the room. She promised that next time I am in town I can call her and she will come over instead.

Her body is a real work of art. Pure perfection in an all natural package.

GKGreat to read the adventures of GK in RIO after all the great SP reports over the years. So you saying this girl from 4x4 was better than any from SP? Good to see the trip is turning out good, Jetlag and fatigue can leave you usless for 1 to 2 days once you get there glad too see you got your 2nd wind.

Ifee Irie
11-03-11, 03:46
Thanks a tonne for the response Christopherd. I found reasonably priced flights to Salvador (yes, I meant Salvador the Bahia) using BrazilianExpress. Com. The reason I posted here is because there is apparently a lot of more frequent postings in this forum. Also, I figured I would likely get cued in by those of you that may have been there.

Specifics: Going around Carnaval 2012.

1) Would like to know of a cheap / reasonably priced place to stay.

. Very chica friendly.

. Close enough to the carnaval route.

. Reasonably secure.

2) How responsive are the non-pros to foreigners hitting on them, say on the street, markets, local dance clubs?

3) What are some good strip clubs with hot girls?

4) Any clubs there in the likeness of Classico in SOS- DR? (For those who have been there) semi-pro filled clubs.

5) What should I expect to see / experience during the Carnaval?

6) There are some video websites that I have looked at, showing wild sex parties during carnaval (Though some of the ladies may be Brazillian porn stars, a lot of the guys standing around don't look to be) Does anyone know how to get invited to any of these?

7) Any ideas how to get invited to parties?

8) Does anyone recommend taking a laptop around Carnival time (or at anytime for that matter)

9) I read in some other posting about the bold pick pockets etc. Where do you even keep your emergency raincoats? LOL!

I appreciate any helpful info to these questions fellas.

Cheers in advance!

PatmarBeleza1
11-03-11, 05:26
I'm reading between the lines here, but that must be Fany.

Don't fall in love. Great girl, though.


Yeh I understand. No worries here. The irony is that she did used to work at Balcony, and sometimes goes back haha!

After I saw her a few times at 4x4, I had her over to the apartment and it only cost me about R$2-300, and I'm sure you could work something similar out if you are here for a while.

I was just wondering how to spend 240 minutes in small room with her haha (insert smiley emoticon if the board software would let me).

PatmarBeleza1
11-03-11, 05:31
I stayed in this apartment in Salvador. The owner was great. He gave me a wireless modem for my laptop.

http://www.salvadorapartment.com/

The top escorts prefer this love motel in Salvador:

http://www.moteldelrey.com.br/

These two are awesome:

http://michellebittencourtvip.********.com/

http://lainaferraz.********.com/

(If for some reason the web sites get blanked out, google,"laina ferraz" and "michelle bittencourt")

They are why men go to Brazil. What bundas.


Thanks a tonne for the response Christopherd. I found reasonably priced flights to Salvador (yes, I meant Salvador the Bahia) using BrazilianExpress. Com. The reason I posted here is because there is apparently a lot of more frequent postings in this forum. Also, I figured I would likely get cued in by those of you that may have been there.

Specifics: Going around Carnaval 2012.

1) Would like to know of a cheap / reasonably priced place to stay.

Very chica friendly.

Close enough to the carnaval route.

Reasonably secure.

2) How responsive are the non-pros to foreigners hitting on them, say on the street, markets, local dance clubs?

3) What are some good strip clubs with hot girls?

4) Any clubs there in the likeness of Classico in SOS- DR? (For those who have been there) semi-pro filled clubs.

5) What should I expect to see / experience during the Carnaval?

6) There are some video websites that I have looked at, showing wild sex parties during carnaval (Though some of the ladies may be Brazillian porn stars, a lot of the guys standing around don't look to be) Does anyone know how to get invited to any of these?

7) Any ideas how to get invited to parties?

8) Does anyone recommend taking a laptop around Carnival time (or at anytime for that matter)

9) I read in some other posting about the bold pick pockets etc. Where do you even keep your emergency raincoats? LOL!

I appreciate any helpful info to these questions fellas.

Cheers in advance!

Mr Enternational
11-03-11, 05:56
Salvador.

2) How responsive are the non-pros to foreigners hitting on them, say on the street, markets, local dance clubs?A first time visitor to Brasil who doesn't know anything about the country or culture and most importantly does not speak Portuguese? You would be lucky to even understand each other. Put the Fantasy Island DVD back into its case. As a wingman of mine would say, "That country does not exist." You can put this one at 0% responsive.


4) Any clubs there in the likeness of Classico in SOS- DR? (For those who have been there) semi-pro filled clubs.No.


5) What should I expect to see / experience during the Carnaval?1) Crowds.

2) Music.

3) Dancing.

4) Drinking.

5) High ass prices

Genghis Khan
11-03-11, 06:18
Great to read the adventures of GK in RIO after all the great SP reports over the years. So you saying this girl from 4x4 was better than any from SP? Good to see the trip is turning out good, Jetlag and fatigue can leave you usless for 1 to 2 days once you get there glad too see you got your 2nd wind.This girl is my favourite of this trip and possibly the second best I have had ever in Rio. She scores highly compared to many of the SP girls over the years too, but nobody will probably ever compare to Miss F who is now retired. She was my first high end madame girl I had back in 2005. I was heartbroken and tried to convince her to come back. Marrige does however usually put an end to these girls previous careers.

The quality of these reports from Rio are not up to the standard I would like to have them, but time is a resource I have less and less of these days.

GK

Sperto
11-03-11, 06:52
Thanks a tonne for the response Christopherd. I found reasonably priced flights to Salvador (yes, I meant Salvador the Bahia) using BrazilianExpress. Com. The reason I posted here is because there is apparently a lot of more frequent postings in this forum. Also, I figured I would likely get cued in by those of you that may have been there.
Specifics: Going around Carnaval 2012.
1) Would like to know of a cheap / reasonably priced place to stay.
. Very chica friendly.
. Close enough to the carnaval route.
. Reasonably secure.
2) How responsive are the non-pros to foreigners hitting on them, say on the street, markets, local dance clubs?
3) What are some good strip clubs with hot girls?
4) Any clubs there in the likeness of Classico in SOS- DR? (For those who have been there) semi-pro filled clubs.
5) What should I expect to see / experience during the Carnaval?
6) There are some video websites that I have looked at, showing wild sex parties during carnaval (Though some of the ladies may be Brazillian porn stars, a lot of the guys standing around don't look to be) Does anyone know how to get invited to any of these?
7) Any ideas how to get invited to parties?
8) Does anyone recommend taking a laptop around Carnival time (or at anytime for that matter)
9) I read in some other posting about the bold pick pockets etc. Where do you even keep your emergency raincoats? LOL!
I appreciate any helpful info to these questions fellas.
Cheers in advance!
If you bother to read a little bit in the Salvador section you would find answer to most of your questions.
Answers:
1. Read the Salvador section.
2. During Carnival in Salvador it's easier tham usual to pick up regular girls.
3. Read the Salvador section.
4. -
5. You'll see Trio Eléctricos, Axé, millions of people, extreme crowds, beautiful girls, ugly girls, roundbutted bahianas, people dancing, people kissing, people fighting, bleeding people, people pissing everywhere, hords of big black Mike Tyson look-alikes fighting, thieves, thousands of police and police using excessive violence. You will experience being pushed in crowds, loosing your wallet and watch, diarrhea after eating from food stalls, ears ringing from extremely loud music and hopefully lots of kissing and some sex.
6. Forget it.
7. See above.
8. No need as there are lots of lan houses.
9. Pick pockets in the Salvador carnival? You can't imagine. If you put anything in your pockets you'll loose it. Put it in your underwear or socks.

Genghis Khan
11-03-11, 09:21
Rio is a fucking piece of shit city in terms og phone coverage. Don't come here and be dependant on phone connections to anyone back home. It doesn't work.

You are supposed to dial:

00 21 (int access code) (phone number) or.

00 31 (int access code) (phone number) or.

+ (int access code) (phone number)

This does not work from my cell phone, from the phone in my hotel room or from the phone down in the reception.

GK

Camelot13
11-03-11, 12:23
Rio is a fucking piece of shit city in terms og phone coverage. Don't come here and be dependant on phone connections to anyone back home. It doesn't work.

You are supposed to dial:

00 21 (int access code) (phone number) or.

00 31 (int access code) (phone number) or.

+ (int access code) (phone number)

This does not work from my cell phone, from the phone in my hotel room or from the phone down in the reception.

GKMy phone works better in Brazil then where I live in the states. My US phone, I just dial the eight numbers and it goes through. That is for local calls. Trying to call the US or other parts of Brazil?

Prosal
11-03-11, 15:50
Specifics: Going around Carnaval 2012.Carnaval in Salvador is drunken chaos. Dozens thousands of drunk aggressive favelados along with their trash puke and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everywhere (you're literally retched by [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) odors). Don't know why anyone in its right mind would want to go there.

Baggio67
11-03-11, 16:26
Rio is a fucking piece of shit city in terms og phone coverage. Don't come here and be dependant on phone connections to anyone back home. It doesn't work.

You are supposed to dial:

00 21 (int access code) (phone number) or.

00 31 (int access code) (phone number) or.

+ (int access code) (phone number)

This does not work from my cell phone, from the phone in my hotel room or from the phone down in the reception.

GKI have never had a problem calling back to the US or receiving calls / texts in Rio. I usually pick up a Tim sim card for my iPhone. I normally use Skype to call the US, because prepaid sim cards usually do not allow International calls. It is a lot cheaper to use Skype anyway. There are plenty free WiFi spots if you need to use Skype on a smartphone or you can use a laptop in your room if you Internet access there or an Internet cafe can set up a Skype call as well.

Bubba Boy
11-03-11, 18:33
Carnaval in Salvador is drunken chaos. Dozens thousands of drunk aggressive favelados along with their trash puke and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everywhere (you're literally retched by [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) odors). Don't know why anyone in its right mind would want to go there.That is what makes it fun, get out there and live a little.

Carrib
11-03-11, 18:43
The plus (+) sign is the unversally accepted GSM code for international dialing. Normally one would dial + Intl country code.number.

Or 00 Intl country code. Number

Dialing 0021 is the code for embratel, forgot which company that uses 0031, that's similar to dialing long distance access codes back the states. Some mobile networs may not have the translations built for those codes.

Rio has at least thre mobile carriers, you can switch carriers (if your cell provides that option) if one is giving you problems. Note that their LD routes and access lines do get congested

BionicMan
11-03-11, 19:10
The plus (+) sign is the unversally accepted GSM code for international dialing. Normally one would dial + Intl country code. Number.

Or 00 Intl country code. Number

Note that their LD routes and access lines do get congestedI recomend to always use + as the international access code may vary from country to country.

All phone Systems Will recognize the + and automatically Replaces it with their own If any different.

Even If I call a domestic number sometime I use the full + Intl number and Works perfectly

Ifee Irie
11-04-11, 04:34
If you bother to read a little bit in the Salvador section you would find answer to most of your questions.

Answers:

1. Read the Salvador section.

2. During Carnival in Salvador it's easier tham usual to pick up regular girls.

3. Read the Salvador section.

4.

5. You'll see Trio Eléctricos, Axé, millions of people, extreme crowds, beautiful girls, ugly girls, roundbutted bahianas, people dancing, people kissing, people fighting, bleeding people, people pissing everywhere, hords of big black Mike Tyson look-alikes fighting, thieves, thousands of police and police using excessive violence. You will experience being pushed in crowds, loosing your wallet and watch, diarrhea after eating from food stalls, ears ringing from extremely loud music and hopefully lots of kissing and some sex.

6. Forget it.

7. See above.

8. No need as there are lots of lan houses.

9. Pick pockets in the Salvador carnival? You can't imagine. If you put anything in your pockets you'll loose it. Put it in your underwear or socks.PatmarBeleza1, Mr Enternational, Sperto, Bubba Boy, Prosal.

Thanks for indulging me. I appreciate all the feedback

Mongmann
11-04-11, 04:51
Rio is a fucking piece of shit city in terms og phone coverage. Don't come here and be dependant on phone connections to anyone back home. It doesn't work.

You are supposed to dial:

00 21 (int access code) (phone number) or.

00 31 (int access code) (phone number) or.

+ (int access code) (phone number)

This does not work from my cell phone, from the phone in my hotel room or from the phone down in the reception.

GKGet a magicjack. Cost about $50 + $20 bucks a year.

Sperto
11-05-11, 01:19
The Rio de Janeiro thread is the Potpourri. Filled of questions about everything else than Rio de Janeiro.
No matter that we have threads like "Using Cell Phones in Brazil","Salvador","Rio de Janeiro-Hotels & Apartments" etc.
This makes it much more difficult for members looking for information.

Golfinho
11-05-11, 07:44
Carnaval in Salvador is drunken chaos. Dozens thousands of drunk aggressive favelados along with their trash puke and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everywhere (you're literally retched by [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) odors). Don't know why anyone in its right mind would want to go there.Right, you are! Like when there's a strike on in Paris, for whatever or other reason du jour. Don't know why anyone in its right mind would want to go there, you're literally retched by the odors de pissoir.

Frenchieboy
11-05-11, 16:13
The Rio de Janeiro thread is the Potpourri. Filled of questions about everything else than Rio de Janeiro.

No matter that we have threads like "Using Cell Phones in Brazil","Salvador","Rio de Janeiro-Hotels & Apartments" etc.

This makes it much more difficult for members looking for information.Sperto you are completly right! The thread is about Rio de Janeiro and not about cell phone in Brazil or Carnival in Salvador or Viagra. !

Genghis Khan
11-05-11, 22:39
Hey guys,

This is a warning to fellow players in Brazil. Be very careful if you intend to use the jacuzzi in a terma suite or a pool at a motel. I have done it only twice and I have become really sick both times.

GK

Genghis Khan
11-05-11, 22:52
I'm reading between the lines here, but that must be Fany.

Don't fall in love. Great girl, though.Having been a hobbyist for about twenty years, one sideeffect is that I have become totally numb to romantic feelings. So falling in love is probably off the table for me.

GK