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Rio Bob
04-24-09, 00:27
I rushed back to the room, opened the box, and gave her the first pill with some water. I put the other pill into her pants' pocket and told her not to forget to take it at 1am. She said that if she died from taking the pills then it would be my fault. I said yeah, and if you get pregnant? She said then her mom would kill her. I said so either way you die. Just don't forget to take the other pill later. I walked her to the bus stop then I went for a misto and acai.

Great story, just curious, did you ask your girl the last time she had her period? Was it 2 days ago, a week ago or 3 weeks ago?

Bunda Man
04-24-09, 04:17
Amerioca.net I know years back was very popular but now I find no review about them!

Thank for the help

I rented one of their apartments my last trip in October 2008. They have a nice stock of 1,2,3 bedroom and penthouse apts. Prices are a bit cheaper than a hotel room. Don and Ken, the owners, are honest and are always very accessible.

Koolkid
04-24-09, 07:13
I rented one of their apartments my last trip in October 2008. They have a nice stock of 1,2,3 bedroom and penthouse apts. Prices are a bit cheaper than a hotel room. Don and Ken, the owners, are honest and are always very accessible.

Yes I am renting with them in may, so I will make a report
when I arrive.

Koolkid
04-24-09, 07:16
I will be bringing my own durex but
what brands that can be bought in Rio are safe to use?

Thanks

Jan 156
04-24-09, 16:30
I will be bringing my own durex but
what brands that can be bought in Rio are safe to use?

Thanks

I use Preserv and prefer them to many brands back home.

Devilspinkick
04-25-09, 03:18
I´m down here in Rio; enjoying the sand, sun, & bundas again. I personally hate HELP and I hope that it not only gets shut down but burns to the ground. I realize that I´m in the minority. Anyway, I was yaking with a hot little number at Monte Carlo who apparently plys her trade at HELP after hours. We got to talking about HELP closing down and she said that there are already venues prepared to pick up the slack. She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa. Just wondering.

BTW - MC and 4X4 have some good talent at this time. It´s always like a party at 4X4 and, though it´s much smaller, MC has a few aspiring porn stars. I´m going back for more.

- DSK

Sperto
04-25-09, 07:35
She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa.
Avenida Pennsylvania NW, 1600.

Devilspinkick
04-25-09, 16:24
Yes, very amusing. Actually, when she mentioned a "Casa Branca" the first image that popped in my head was the Copacabana Palace. Maybe there´s a bar that is attached to the hotel that GDPs meet at now. Who knows. I´m more of a Termas guy anyway.

After a vigorous round of bed hopping last night and hitting the academia & praia this morning I´m rather drained. Have to suck it up .... will probably head back to MC tonight and maybe tour the scene around Ave. P. Isabel later.

- DSK

Sperto
04-25-09, 16:49
Yes, very amusing. Actually, when she mentioned a "Casa Branca" the first image that popped in my head was the Copacabana Palace...
I've been thinking of what she meant with this place "Casa Branca" and I have absolutely no idea at all.
(The only GP-place I heard about that's called Casa Branca was a small ho-house in the outskirt of Palmas. Four girls attending.)

Gavazzi
04-25-09, 17:36
I've been thinking of what she meant with this place "Casa Branca" and I have absolutely no idea at all.

(The only GP-place I heard about that's called Casa Branca was a small ho-house in the outskirt of Palmas. Four girls attending.)Maybe I'm totally lost. But can it be Casa blanka she said? That shall be some new place. Haven't been there tho.

Exec Talent
04-25-09, 18:08
There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.

I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized.

Gavazzi
04-25-09, 20:50
There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.

I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized."Gringoized" Did you expected something else on a bar/club in copa.

Its on the same street as the Rio internationel Porto bay right? I will try it tonight and see what it is.

Flexinbk
04-26-09, 00:06
I´m down here in Rio; enjoying the sand, sun, & bundas again. I personally hate HELP and I hope that it not only gets shut down but burns to the ground. I realize that I´m in the minority. Anyway, I was yaking with a hot little number at Monte Carlo who apparently plys her trade at HELP after hours. We got to talking about HELP closing down and she said that there are already venues prepared to pick up the slack. She mentioned some place called Casa Branca that´s smaller than HELP but in her opinion it has a nicer environment. Has anyone else heard of such a place? I think she said that it´s located in Copa. Just wondering.


- DSK

You sure she didn't say Asa Branca, which is in Lapa

Adaptable
04-26-09, 03:30
Went to Solarium tonight at around 7pm and had an awesome time. The location is fairly easy to get to from the beach hotels near the lagoon behind the beaches. The taxi cost me R$10. When you get there, they explain the prices to you (R$150 cash for the girl, the rest can be on credit cards for a R$25 fee). You get a locker key and change into a robe and sandals. You don't carry cash (it's in the locker), and flash the key number when you want to pay for any service or drinks. First I got a full hour massage for R$100. It was better than some I've had on the beaches or from professional masseuses in the USD.

After my massage, I headed upstairs to to the club area where there seemed to be an endless sea of women...probably 30+....many were absolutely stunning. The night before I went to 4x4 downtown, and the girls where not nearly as attractive...lots of tattoos, smoking, etc. I did not partake. The Solarium girls where more like the girls you see on Ipanema beach. I bought a bottled water, then I caught the eye of one hottie. I asked her name (Ariel), and immediately started making out with her like a girlfriend. We must have kissed for 10 minutes on the dance floor, and she even checked my cock a few time. She was a solid "9"....perfect ass, brown hair, brown eyes, lightly tanned skin...fake C cups, but they were well done. If it were not for the fake knockers, I'd say she was a "10".

Then we went upstairs....the told me the prices (I speak Spanish, but understanding enough Portuguese to get by) , and I waited in the cabana. After 10 minutes, she showed up in a school uniform skirt and tux top. We continued to make out....FDK'ing for another few minutes...got naked..then she gave me a full on BBBJ, with lots of teasing the head, and even licking my balls.

She put the condom on. Then we moved to full on cowgirl and finished doggie style. She cleaned me up...we had some nice kisses and cuddling, then she started playing with my cock again....first a HJ to get me hard, then another BBBJ. I was wiped from a long day at the beach, so after about 10 minutes, I stopped her and we just kissed and cuddled for a while longer, the she gave me a foot massage while we talked as best as we could.

I really wanted to cum again, and she did everything she could to encourage it, but it just wasn't in the cards tonight.

The phone rang after 40 minutes, and she cleaned up....a joked a while longer, then she kissed me goodbye.... Best GFE I've had on 5 continents.

I headed for the exit.... the charge was R$150 cash for the girl, and R$350 on my credit card for the massage, entrance, room, etc. I tipped R$20 on my way out. All up R$500 for a relaxing evening with a hour long massage and some great sex.....which equates to less than $250USD. I'm going to try and go again tomorrow before my evening flight. They open at 4pm Sundays.

Devilspinkick
04-26-09, 04:02
You sure she didn't say Asa Branca, which is in Lapa

I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.

I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.

- DSK

Devilspinkick
04-26-09, 04:07
There is a new bar (previously reported on here) located on Duvier between NS Copacabana and Atlantica. It also has onsite cabines which can be "rented" for R$50. It is a small place. No way will it replace Help.

I have been in the club twice. The first time was nice because there were just a few gringos and some locals. Next visit it had been gringoized.


ET - I think that´s the place she was talking about. I remember her mentioning it was at or along the street of Duvier. She balked at the idea of working at Balcony or MP and I don´t blame her.

Flexinbk
04-26-09, 04:51
I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.

I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.

- DSK

That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations? How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..

Jan 156
04-26-09, 16:45
Hi Flexinbk. I suspect you probably know the answers to these, but for the benefit of the board . . .


That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations?

Cheap as sh*t. Or use the Ibis on Praca Tiradentes, next door to Lapa, as I have, reasonable for a hotel and visitor-friendly.


How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..

I only use buses to Lapa - plenty of them, like the 464 which then continues on to VM. A taxi would be about 18R (I'll look up the average rate in Ruas and correct this if I'm wrong).

Ryjerrob
04-26-09, 17:09
I actually thought about that as well. The music was loud, so maybe I heard her wrong. Lapa is a cool area, but I can´t imagine gringos heading there in droves. Lapa isn´t a safe place for tourists unless you know how to blend in with the crowd. But I guess anything is possible.

I go to Lapa from time to time. Quite a few young hotties running around. I´ve never stepped foot in Asa Branca before though.

- DSK

Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.

ryjer

Devilspinkick
04-26-09, 22:26
That depends...How is Lapa for accomadations? How much is a taxi from copa to lapa? or you could take the R$2 mini vans ..


Lapa has a lot of bare-bones accomodations, too low budget even for me - so I´ve never tried any of them. Lapa can be reached via the metro (get off at Cinelandia). And there are frequent buses that connect with Copa. Almost any bus that heads to downtown or the rodoviaria wil pass by Lapa. I suppose a taxi should run around R$15-20, maybe less if you get a driver that´s honest enough to use the meter.

I usually stay in the neighborhood of Catete or Gloria, which are both within walking distance of Lapa. The best hotels are the Hotel Gloria and the Hotel Florida (there´s another good one that escapes my mind at the moment). There are several low cost hotels that aren´t good for hosting guests but fine if you just want a place to crash. There is a decent love hotel called the Hotel Diamond and also Hotel Love Time is close by. There are really cheap "per hour" dives were you can take your new found friend such as the Motel Ouro Preto. Quite a few street walkers plying their trade at night. Half of them are most definitely "bonecas". Perhaps I should also mention that Termas Rio Antigo is in the same area. If they´d ever staff that place with hot chicks it would be a great Termas.

I don´t think most tourists would want to spend their vacation in these parts of town though.

That´s my take on it - DSK

Sprite13
04-27-09, 01:16
Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?

Thanks.

Gavazzi
04-27-09, 01:18
Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.

ryjerCan agree on it dosent seems dangerous area. I have been there only some few times and its a good area to go for drinks. Epsecially Rio Scenario i like it...

Jesuscola
04-27-09, 11:09
Can agree on it dosent seems dangerous area.

It is very easy to get your pockets picked in Lapa. The thieves are organized and will hit you on both sides and be gone with your stuff before you even realize it.

And the area behind Pizzaria Guanabara, and up around the famous steps of Lapa, is definitely dangerous after dark.

Devilspinkick
04-27-09, 14:39
Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?

Thanks.

Actually that part of town isn´t the Centro but you go through it on the way to Centro (where 4X4, T-65, etc. is located).

Anyway, I´ve never stayed at Hotel Florida but I think their prices are usually around US$100 a night. Hotel Gloria is a bit more - can´t remember the price because it´s been a while since I´ve stayed there. Depending on exchange rates or current specials it can be a bit cheaper or quite pricey.

I remembered the name of the other hotel as I walked past it last night: it´s the Hotel Imperial. Last time I checked with them they were charging 140 Reais per night (less on weekends). It´s on the Rua do Catete and the Catete metro stop is only 150 meters away, plus there´s a branch of HSBC bank just a few doors down where you can draw out more dinheiro. Brazil is dealing with inflation so it seems that prices for everything has gotten higher & higher.

Keep in mind that if you speak with the management directly you can often get a significant discount off of the posted price. The place I stay at (which I´ll decline to mention) has a posted price of 120 Reais per night but I usually only pay 70 to 80 Reais. Away from the tourist areas and in other parts of Brazil this is common practice. I hope your Portuguese is pretty good.

Unfortunately I only have a couple of days left in Brazil and then I´ll turn my sights to the lovely beavers of Canada. Them French-Canadian chicks are something else. But tonight I´ll be making a stop at Quatro por Quatro.

- DSK

Vaughnyb1
04-27-09, 17:26
What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.

Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.

Thanks guys

Vaughn

Jan 156
04-27-09, 19:50
What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.

Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.

Thanks guys

Vaughn


It really depends what you want. Tijuca is nice. Very non-touristy. Some of it is walking distance to VM. No beach though. And you need Porto to check the ads and get an apartment at knock-down rates.

Botogogo is a lovely area, very little crime and hardly any tourists. But it's not cheap. Advantage is you can book it thru the same agents that rent Copa apartments. Great for cinemas (3 arthouse, 2 multiplex), trendy bars and so on. Good shopping. Easy transport into town or Copa via Metro or buses. Very little gdp.

I think a lot of other places are either very expensive, like Botanico and Leblon, or cheerfully falling to bits, like Lapa and Catete.

You can also rent impressive places in Santa Teresa - sort of upmarket backpacker territory - but you have to navigate dodgy areas getting into town.

Across the water Niteroi is nice, non-touristy, pretty safe if you stay in the main areas, and reasonable amount of p4p.

But to be honest, if you know Rio, you know these options, and if you don't, the easiest non-touristy, reasonably prices area without too much crime is Centro. It's where quite a few mongers base themselves after tiring of the Copa-Ipanema merry-go-round. You'll probably need basic Porto again to get an apartment, but you can get a GF hotel at a lot less than Copa, and have p4p on your doorstep as well.


As Devilspinkick says, turning up on the doorstep gives you lots of negotiating power that booking from afar doesn't. If necessary, book into a hostel or cheap hotel for a night or two so you can look at your options (this is the way a lot of Brasilians do it when visiting Rio).

Sperto
04-28-09, 09:11
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.

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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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I rated them A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average.

Cabin:
A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.
B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.
C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.

Service:
A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best in the sex-act. Allows multiple pops.
B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.
C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.

Standard (on the girls):
A= Better than average, sometimes with some stunners.
B= Average standard.
C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions.

Number:
The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there.

WV (Worth a Visit):
A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.
B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something you’ll like.
C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.

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Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 10-85.

1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Apto 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2622 (old 3330): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 50/20 min, R$ 75/40 min, R$ 95/60 min
- Apto 1839: Cabin=A, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
- Apto 1833: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 1804: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min
- Apto 1701 (old 1703): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min

2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 110/60 min
- Apto 1829: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min

3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Apto 210: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 90/60 min

4. Rua México 148:
- Apto 804: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min

5. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:
- Apto 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min

6. Rua Santa Lucia 405:
- Apto 429: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=C; WV=C
R$ 30/1 pop no time

7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=25, WV=B
R$ 1/min

8. Rua da Carioca 40: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min

9. Rua Uruguaiana 24: 5 floors.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=30, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/20 min

10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:
- Apto 911: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Apto 707: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 20/1 pop no time

11. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 5 floors.
Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=60, WV=A
R$ 1/min

12. Rua Buenos Aires 93:
- Apto 513: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min

13. Rua Buenos Aires 113: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=C
R$ 1/min

14. Travessa do Ouvidor 37: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 40/20 min, R$ 60/30 min

15. Rua da Quitanda 81 (Club Gatinha): Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/40 min, R$ 120/60 min

16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Apto 1005: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=B
R$ 40/30 min, R$ 60/60 min
- Apto 817: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 80/60 min

17. Avenida Presidente Vargas 482:
- Apto 914: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/60 min (incl massage+HJ, BJ cost +R$ 20, no penetration)

18. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=15, WV=C
R$ 40/40 min, R$ 60/60 min

19. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

20. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=7, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

21. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=10, WV=B
R$ 15/15 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

22. Rua do Acre 61 (Whiskeria Aquarius): Number=20, WV=B
R$ 70/20 min, R$ 90/30 min, R$ 110/40 min, R$ 130/60 min. (Cheaper before 4PM).

23. Praca Mauá, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 120/60 min.

24. Praca Mauá, Escandinavia: Stripclub. WV=B

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* Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.
Cabin=B and C, Service=C (some B), Standard=(A-)C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=A
Gems to be found.
R$ 25/30 min, R$ 1/condom
Some casas with better cabins will cost you R$ 2 more.
Hotel Canário (motel)=R$ 25/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 40-60/2 hs at Canário.

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My personal choice.
Besides of being a big VM-fan I obviously do a lot of mongering in Centro. My favourite bottom-low place for a cheap quickie is Rua Buenos Aires 85 (list no: 11). I almost always manages to find a nice girl there.
When I feel the need for a session in a relaxed and clean environment I usually choose one of the Av Rio Branco casas (list no: 1 and 2).

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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.

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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.

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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.

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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF

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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.

Cheers
Sperto

P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)!

Ryjerrob
04-28-09, 17:17
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.

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As always, you've outdone yourself. You are truly a fountain of knowledge. To further acknowledge your exploits, I will be making the rounds in Centro next Monday afternoon. Sorry you can't be there, but I'll make you proud........

ryjer

Ryjerrob
04-28-09, 17:28
I hear all the criticism from some of you guys and it has given me some pause in this, but ultimately, I know I am right in my statements about her. There are really only 2 people on the planet that know all the details of what happened between this girl and myself. It is easy to criticize when you were not directly involved and when you do not know all of the facts. I don’t blame anyone that has written critically about my actions. I welcome the dialog and it does make me think about all this.

Here's a contact in Brazil that may offer you some info. I know him from another forum. His name is Jose Santiago, www.lawofficeinbrazil.com

ryjer

EasyEase
04-28-09, 17:43
Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no Portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.

ryjerLapa is surely one of the most interesting area in Rio for me. I was in Rio about 2 months ago and went to Lapa at least 5x during my 10night visit. The Bars are lovely, people are nice, you find music of any taste (Rock, Latin, Oldies etc.). Though I speak only a few portuguese words, I came along very well with the local people and the bartenders. I ended up one night Bar-hoping with 2 nice Brazilian non GDP (I think they were secretaries) and had a wonderful night with them (no sex, just having fun, flirting and laughing). Definitely a place to visit in Rio. I felt save all the time in Lapa.

Regards,

Vandeta

Acenva
04-28-09, 18:33
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.

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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.

Ace

JuiceGuy
04-28-09, 19:31
I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.

I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.

Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!

I will definitely return the favor for any information.

Thanks.

JuiceGuy
04-28-09, 19:47
Is Help Closed Yet or Still Open?

Jamaicanceo
04-28-09, 20:45
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.

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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.

AceMy buddie, I know you will. When I grow up can I be your wingman?

Pelongera
04-28-09, 20:58
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.

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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.

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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.

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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF

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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.

Cheers,

Sperto

P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)!I joined last night so that I could search for information on Centro and Vila Mimosa (yea, I'm a bottom fisher, a sturgeon of sorts). Indeed, I spent a few hours collecting pearls of wisdom, including your terrific maps.

Then I log on today to find this post pulling it all together. Whatever. I'm happy.

Weatherman14
04-29-09, 00:17
Sperto great report. Thank you.

Does anyone else know of any smaller, quieter bars in the Copa area where you can pick up a GDP girl?

Thanks

Poonani Central
04-29-09, 06:32
Many thanks to Sperto & Bubba Boy. Invaluable information.

Observations, opinions & recommendations:

• Print out Sperto’s & Bubba Boys maps & lists, take with you.

• Learn some Portuguese. You’re in their country, try to speak their language. If you have remedial Spanish skills it is helpful.

• Drink domestic beer (Skol, Brahma etc.), cheaper easier & you know what’s in your drink.

• Know your surroundings, the taxis tend to go in circles. Intentional or not you’ll save yourself time & money by barking out where to go if you know it.

•C arry hotel business card w/ you all times, taxi drivers don’t always know location by hotel name.

• Addresses & street signs very accurate in Rio, print out addresses of your destinations. When you are walking the locations are easy to find.

• Always, always question your bill, they will tack on extra s—t as habit (for example, nice restaurant in Recreio dos Bandeirantes- double charged me, my partner caught it, took 10 minutes of arguing and pointing at the prices on the menu to get the bill correct)

• Bring small notepad & pen everywhere, excellent for communications, negotiations & ph. #’s!

• Use this notepad at every establishment you have any doubt about pricing. Ask the front desk to write down all options, duration, room choices and drink prices. We started this ½ way thru the trip & clarity was achieved. No confusion, no hassle.

• Don’t recommend tipping, doesn’t seem customary, might even laugh at you, small change may be, IMHO.

Day 1: (Friday)

Arrive at airport 9am. Went straight to the booths for taxi, pay US $, easy no haggle. Staying at hotel Ibis R D J, Centro. Reserved rooms on web site by credit card: http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/hotel-5534-ibis-Rio-de-janeiro-centro/index.shtml

Walking distance to 4X4, T 502 etc.

Pay cash in advance (seemed weird but no problem) 120R per night. Nice rooms. Good breakfast, friendly English speaking hotel staff.

*Definitely girl friendly, only one at a time though (no festas)

Need reaies, vitamins & sustenance: walk down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha to corner of Ave Rio Branco. Large underground mall SW corner, just past open square. Cambio: down escalator (2. 15R=1$). Back up escalator east exit, on Rio Branco: large drogaria. Helpful in the back, show qty and cost on computer, hassle free vitamin purchase.

Back to hotel- money in safe. 200R in money belt, 200R in shoe under gel foot pad, 200R in wallet. Ready for food and poonani. Back down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha, great Kilo Restaurant (I think name is Poa? ) south (right) side of street. 2 kilos of meet, 2 beers, 25 or so R’s.

It’s 1pm now. T 502 & 4X4 supposed to be open. Midget door on metal gate is open at 502. Crawl thru. They tell us no abrir until 2pm. Bulls—t. I’m horney. Across the street to 4X4. Whiskeria won’t open till 4pm, "but you can go into Terma". Don’t want to go thru rigmarole of putting a robe on if only 2 skrags in there. Back to T502. Sit out front chain smoking.

T502:2pm, abrir! Pay entrance (all prices listed on wall) get our entry drinks. A few garotas. Approached by one. Can’t figure us out. Broken, sloppy Porto mixed w/ Spanish. These gringos are green! No mind. She laughs, brings amigas over. Pointing at us laughing that we can’t speak any porto. We laugh more than them, ice broken. Nice quality. Start eyeballin’ plan C & B. Waiting for plan A to show up. A group sits with us, getting wasted together. One is a dark modelo, plan A in the sights. One makin’ fun of my partner, gonna be his grudge f---.

Going up: Grudge f--- partner up 1st. Front desk hacks him for the suite room. Did not realize, probably did not care. (you pay cash on the way up for room? Did not catch that in guides) I’m next. They try to charge 180ishR. Borracho courage. "F. That, muito dinheiro! " Price backed down to 130ishR for the normal room. Wait! This is the Mecca of culo & I forgot to negotiate ahead! Idioto. No probel. Excellent BBBJ, full service and just like the dessert plate at a fine restaurant after dinner, the culo is spread open and offered up without solicitation. I love this country!

Back down stairs, party and drink some more with our Garotas. Plan for a trip to Copa and festa manana. I negotiate 300R, partners get theirs down to 200R all day and night. I’m week for the culo. Get ph #’s and bail. No intention of filling my pockets with ice cubes when I go to the North pole. Just testing the water. Plan D, just in case.

Walk across the street, check out 4X4 Whiskeria. Quality-a-plenty. Worth the cover to check it out. Did not partake.

Get dinner, revitalize and get a Taxi to Florida & Escandinavia. Get there 11ish.

Florida 1st: Pay cover, upstairs and oh nooooo: sausage fest, pickle party! (must be a ship in) Friggen dudes dancin’ on the catwalk, not appealing. React quickly, grab one of the few available garotas. Ugly mug, dark but sweet bunda. Don’t care. To the cabin. Descent facilities from what I remember. Prices in guide accurate. They give you a magnetic card to track your drinks. Watch that card. Garota could walk off w/ it and by a round for the sailors. Special thanks: to my partners for sitting in there while I conducted business. They did not have many choices, too many sausages, not enough tacos. Bad ratio. Let’s try next door.

Escandinavia: a sad little place. Same problem, sea of trouser trouts. Have to make a move. Spot a spinner, peroxide blonde. OK I’ll go light this round. She’s jiggen around like a wack job. Get closer, sunken cheeks. . Crackhead. Oh well, probably get cheaper rate. Closer, whoa, really cheap. Bring her over to our table, now the partners are thoroughly grossed out. They say let’s get outa here! Wait, have to close the deal. How does it work here? F-it, "toda a noite? E’ possivel? Don’t remember discussing quanto. Vamos to my hotel? Partners are cringing. But. All night excellent service, culos, bbbj’s, swallow. Wacked is good! Wake up in morning for last round, sober now. "I have to go to work". Give 200R for excellent service, too much but she had no purse, no cell phone and probably doesn’t work very often. She could not figure out how to get to the lobby and get a cab, had to walk her down, front desk shaking their heads I’m sure. F-them.

Day 2, (Saturday)

Centro Termas closed. It’s VM day!

Need good food. East from hotel on R. Da Carioco/ R. Frei Caneca toward Praca da Republica turn left on 3rd or 4th street. A lot of outdoor places, great food, treated us well. Closed Sunday daytime and I assume holidays.

VM: This is Mogadishu meets Fallujah. Black hawk down. My style. Now we’re talkin’. Arrive 2pm, a little early, not yet hoppin’ but some Garotas. Start slammin’ Skols, have to get primed. Partner is drinkin vodka on the rocks, what’s in the ice? Even worse, what’s the clear liquid in the vodka bottle on the shelf? Start walking down all the indoor alleys. The one with the loop most active. All the people are cool to us. Good times. Settle on a place with qty of garotas. Questionable quality. We all grab one. Cost: 20ish R. Cabins are not as bad as described by some, but this aint the Hilton for sure. No ceiling? I can hear moaning next door. One partner barks "quit your moaning". This is entertainment but no chance of finishing. Next place. Girls are coming to work it’s 6-7-8pm, can’t remember. We settle into another place. Ugly skrag sits next to me, partners cringing. I go to take her up to gross them out, she asks for cinquenta R on the way up a tiny stair case. Not worth $23 for the effect. Looking at her going up the stairs grosses me out. Back down. Let’s go. Where is vodka drinking partner? Heaving in the toilet. Yikes! Man down. We’re in Fallujah after dark with a wounded partner. Took one to the stomach (too much clear liquid from the vodka bottle). Carry him out on our shoulders looking for a friendly APC (yellow cab w/ blue stripe and a meter that works). 4 cabs out front, all outa service, drivers drinking and f---ing. Stumble down R. Lopez de Sousa. No taxis! Another block or so find a taxi. We get out in one piece! Now that was friggen fun. I recommend this experience.

Midnight or so: Back to Florida for a solo mission to get an all nighter. Jumped by ugly face. Toda a noite for 200R + 50R bar fine. I am truly week for the culo, should have hacked her to 150R. Whatever, good all night activity and did not have to watch her with one eye open, good screening the night before determined as descent garota. Asked for taxi money in morning. "That’s all I got girl". Laughed and left.

Day 3 (Sunday)

Centro Termas closed again.

It’s Copa day. Have to get some legitimization photos. Wonder on the beach. Touts are annoying. Simple "nao, nao! " When that doesn’t work use the last resort "spreken ze duetch? " always works. Hang around Atlatntica restaurants till Help opens.

Help: got there early around 11pm or so. No matter, quality-a-plenty! Wow, so much poontang. Reasonable priced drinks, took awhile to figure out the drink ticket thing. This is a smorgasbord of garotas. All sizes all shapes. A little leary of the overpricing rumors. Let’d dig in: find plan C, there’s plan B, and oh yaaa, plan; A- tiny spinner, dark, classy. Rub up to her, starting at 500R. She speaks English. I say "you’re gonna leave me poor". Laughing but won’t budge. My partner sits down with one, she says "300R, if you were ugly I’d charge you 500R". Yes I am ugly. Have to lower my standards if I don’t wanna pay $230. We work the crowd for several hours and have a blast doing it. This place is great! 8’s, 9’s everywhere and it’s Sunday night. It’s getting late, plan C in effect, nice 8ish MILF settles for 260R all night. "you’re staying where? Centro, I ‘ll need Taxi money" she speaks too much English. We haggle to 280R. Chr—t these goratos are tough. We’re looking for a cab and she says "take my friends taxi" I say no and drag her down the street to a legit looking yellow cab. She protests. I say "just get in! " off to a sour start. No worries, make the best of it. She lightens up back in the room. BBBJ, good service, all positions, no culo, nice masturbation on herself to finish me with a visual. I got lucky and good screening helps.

Day 4 (Monday)

Let’s travel! The Beverly Hills of Rio. Rocereio dos Bandeirantes. There’s a Benz dealer on Av das Americas, must be upper class! 70ish R taxi ride from Centro. Cool driver, stopped for a lot of pictures on the way. Got there early so ate at the restaurant down the street. Good food, check your bill as always. Walking distance from Ancora and Paris Café.

Termas Ancora do Recreio: good quality, good quantity but bad attitudes. Stayed for a couple hours drinking, no activity. Give you magnetic swipe wrist band for tracking drinks.

Paris Café: now we’re talking. Strip cub atmosphere. Give you a paper card to mark down your drinks. Loaded, I say loaded with prime poontang dressed slutty. Ya! I love it. Settle on a stunner dark garota w/ short hair, tall, long legs, 8ish. Great attitude. Start drinking shots and get plastered. Partner picks his, another modelo. Head up to cabins. Really nice and big. So. She shoves a towel at the base of the door, cracks the window open and lights up a joint. "Para Voce? " wasted & stupid "sim" now I’m wasted& stoned. Idioto! Could have gone sour, but. . This was my best experience in Rio. She was super fun, all holes, BBBJ. Epic! This is the Mecca!

Day 5 (Tuesday)

Plane leaves at 8pm. Wake up late, check out. Hotel has very secure system for luggage storage. Out to 4X4, we have not been yet! Oh sh—t, everything is closed when we get outside. What the F? We hoof it to 4X4, closed, 502, closed. Is this a holiday? Back to the hotel ask front desk. Verified, holidy. Check Sperto and Bubba Boys lists. Looks like Monte Carlo is open on Sundays. They have to be open today! Not much time left. In the Taxi to Copa.

Monte Carlos: I hate robes! Leave my pantalones on, I’m goin’ commando today. This aint no fasion show and no one wants to see my legs anyway. Upstairs to the bar. Oh sh—t! It’s packed with super modelos, light, dark, blonde, brunette, skinny, big bunda, they got it all! Why the h-ll didn’t we come here before? Bad luck can become good luck. We all settle on our choices. A rare occasion that I get my plan A immediately. She speaks English. 8ish blond. BBBJ, no culo, but no broblem, the service was impeccable. Thank you Sperto and Bubba Boy: a perfect end to a perfect trip.

We will be back!

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Fashion
04-29-09, 13:41
I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.

I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.

Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!

I will definitely return the favor for any information.

Thanks.I would love 2 go, but not sure if the time permits.

Ryjerrob
04-29-09, 19:05
It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!

Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.

ryjer

Gavazzi
04-30-09, 01:02
hello guys

i know this is the never ending story about helpee... but has any heard anything if the close now on friday or maybe after the weekend? i will ofcourse go and look on friday just to see.

and if they shall close has any talk to the girls where they planing to go? some has said balcony but that place cant them all.

a theory i had is for the olympic commitè is here now and maybe they wanted to close during this period start at 1may and after that they try to keep it closed, or if it reopen they dosent matter until 2016 ;) with they i mean the goverment.


so anyone that has some good info?

Gavazzi
04-30-09, 01:35
Sorry for double posting just made a discovery. In Bubba report he say in 2006 that a rumor that Help is closing in may that year So this is a fairy tale comming every year I guess.

Then they for sure will not close it is what it is. Rumors

Good night all.

Euro100
04-30-09, 05:28
It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!

Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.

ryjer
yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)

Acenva
04-30-09, 14:51
yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire. Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.

Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun.

Lennox
05-01-09, 04:16
One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire... Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.

Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun....No offense guys but how come on vacation go seek a place this out? It sounds a little beyond the pale of what I can tolerate. LOL it sounds so awful, it's almost worth seeing just to see if it's really that bad. I have spoken to several guys who have been there and the descriptions were unbelievable.

Hitmanm3
05-01-09, 15:24
Do you think that if the USA gets to freely travel to Cuba will that present a threat to Brazil in the realm of mongering? It is a shorter plan ride, and some may say no, but I have notice that as of late some Americans have chosen to travel more to DR than Brazil. If Cuba and America become more amicable and Americans have the choice to come and go as they please, do you think that Rio might become less attractive due to distance and prices of the GDP. Just wondering what the forum thinks. Oh by the way this place is Great. The people and the vast wealth of information. Lets look at it from all aspects. Price of the p4p, upto distance of travel and from what I have been told the change of the women physic in Rio. They are now looking a little heavier than in the past etc.

Voyajer1
05-02-09, 00:21
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Pelongera
05-02-09, 03:15
i know this might be a fun discussion and i hate to be a party pooper but remember there are newbies trawling through this thread, maybe at 2am before a long flight, trying to find how to make the most of rio women.

there's a dedicated thread for american politics in the general isg board.thank you, christopherd.

one of the questions i have as i approach my first trip brazil is to what extent do you find that you need to state exactly what sex you expect.

elsewhere, like tj, it gets very tedious. but if i don't, for example, talk about nipple sucking ahead of time, providers more times than not will finger wag me off: "es cinco mas!"

any thoughts on negotiations?

Sunset Strip
05-02-09, 03:35
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Carrib
05-02-09, 04:24
When traveling, I have one simple rule--NO POLITICS and I believe this board would do well to follow suit.

I was in Capetown SA a few years ago in a nice bar, everyone was having a good time..I struck up a conversation with some fellow who intimated that he was once part of the South African army who enforced Apartheid..things started getting tense..I simply stopped him and said--hey man, I'm here on vacation..would u like a drink? We proceded to have a few rounds and joked about the different pretentious spinners in the bar...good times without the fuss and tension of politics.

We are all here in search of one common thing: The pursuit and procurement of top shelf brazilian BUNDA at a reasonable price..our ideological tendencies need not matter.

Bunda Man
05-02-09, 05:56
guys, can we please get back on track with the central purpose of this board? any gents on the ground who can report as to whether discoteca helpee was open tonight? reports are that the last night would be sometime in may. i may make my 5th trip to rio in nov. if i dont go to medellin colombia and am trying to get an idea as to whether help or a comparable replacement will be open. helpee is truly magical and unique and i doubt any new venue will have the same qualities to the same degree.

Sperto
05-02-09, 07:23
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Sperto
05-02-09, 07:25
One of the questions I have as I approach my first trip Brazil is to what extent do you find that you need to state exactly what sex you expect... any thoughts on negotiations?A good question. Negotiations is very important!

I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.

1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.

Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.

Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.

Pana Nyc
05-02-09, 11:52
there is nothing in medellin that even comes close to rio (mongering wise) if you are looking for a help replacement you are not going to find it in medellin buddy, there are no dance clubs/discos that cater to mongers in medellin none at all. i never was a fan of help i am a terma monger that is where you will find the best serivce and looking garotas in rio de janeiro in my opinion. i have done from the cheapest centro terma to the most expensive so i consider myself a good judge of the mongering scene down in rio.

guys, can we please get back on track with the central purpose of this board? any gents on the ground who can report as to whether discoteca helpee was open tonight? reports are that the last night would be sometime in may. i may make my 5th trip to rio in nov. if i dont go to medellin colombia and am trying to get an idea as to whether help or a comparable replacement will be open. helpee is truly magical and unique and i doubt any new venue will have the same qualities to the same degree.

Eros74
05-02-09, 13:48
...I am a Terma Monger that is where you will find the best serivce and looking garotas in Rio de Janeiro in my opinion...I totally agree, specially if you consider, that most of times it is enough to go twice with the same terma girl to be able, and it is indeed very easy, to meet her outside for to go to the beach together or dinner and sex session.

So with a very little budget, 2x to terma, you are gonna to date a girl that 99% is completa and very good looking without the need to work a lot in internet before your travel or to take random some piranha whom you do not know in advance if she is really passionate or not.

Build a friendship with a terma girl and you will have all you need, best quality at the cheapest price.

You really cannot ask for more :)

Member #3433
05-02-09, 15:50
Once again. All hail Sperto! Thank you Sir. Great questions! Wish I would have had a few of those on my first trip. Be in Rio in August for a few weeks. Buy you a beer, or your beverage of choice, if you are in town then.

Sonny


A good question. Negotiations is very important!

I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.

1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.

Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.

Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.

Sunset Strip
05-03-09, 06:25
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Actually, what I posted was not political commentary. I merely corrected a serious mistatement.
I understand you are the moderator but very often guys make mistatements on here that you allow to remain. If I was sure the mistatement would have been deleted I would not have posted a correction.

Here is your rule:
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Not sure how I violated it!
Considering you allow posts by senior members who state they wish certain types of people would not be allowed in Brazil, I think there is a problem here. When people make offensive comments about rap, hip hop, baseball caps, you allow it! But when people correct wild statements about certain politcians you delete the wild statement, finally, and also berate the correcter?
Politics is not limited to statements about politicians. That crap about rap, etc., that you have allowed for years IS POLITICAL! BE FAIR!

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Gavazzi
05-03-09, 06:39
Hello

Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.

But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?

I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?

I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.

To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.

There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.

What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?

Take care all

Perkele
05-03-09, 12:01
Went past Casablanca club yesterday. Its ex New Munich club. Used to be worst club in Copa. There is no way that it could replace Help in case of closure.

Trafukin
05-03-09, 13:19
A good question. Negotiations is very important!

I always have a "question formulary" that I go through before deciding if I want a session or not. The questions might depends if it's a 20 minutes session or a TLN.

1. Name (just to break the ice)?
2. Age (to make "sure" she´s legal)?
3. Kids, if so how many (kids make the risk higher of running into tits looking like the ears of a dachshound)?
4. I ask how much she wants for a session?
5. I ask what's her last price?
6. For how long time?
7. Includes one or several pops?
8. Does she do bbbj?
9. The session includes anal sex?
10. How is the room/cabin? AC, ventilador, clean, shower?
11. Will she accept R$ X (my offered price)? If so, go ahead.

Going through these questions goes quite quickly and makes sure I don't get any bad surprises. The GP don't mind the questions as she notes she has a serious client wanting her services.

Note: Question number 9, anal sex, is very useful even if I usually don't care about the backdoor. Most brazilian guys want anal sex. If I tell the girl I don't want anal she usually makes a discount.Hello group!

Thanks for the above Sperto. Already printed out and laminated the maps too! It should help out tremendously for my first trip to Rio in about 3 weeks.

Group/Sperto: Could you help me with something? I figured out how to say everything below in Portuguese, except for number 5 and mainly number 7. Here's what I have. Can you help me?

1. Qual e o seu nome?
2. Quantos anos voce tem?
3. Voce tem filhos? Quantos filhos?
4. Quanto?
5. ??
6. Quanto tempo?
7. ??
8. chupada/boquete sem camisinha
9. Completa?
10. I'm staying in an apartment; don't think I have to ask this one.

Lastly, when it comes to referring to cum, do the garotas refer to it mostly as porra or leite (milk)? Spent a lot of time in DR, where leite was the main word used. CIM = leite/porra na sua boca??

Thanks

===============================================

Hi Trafukin,

With all due respect, why did you post this in the Rio de Janeiro Reports thread when the forum has a thread specifically for "Portuguese Phrases"

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1887

I would very much appreciate it if you would consider re-posting your question in one of these established threads.

Thanks,

Jackson

Wanderer1000
05-03-09, 20:50
Gavazzi,

I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.

Red Flags:

1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start

2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price

3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)

Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.

Just some thoughts.

Gavazzi
05-03-09, 21:33
Gavazzi,

I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.

Red Flags:

1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start

2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price

3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)

Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.

Just some thoughts.You are absolutly right I should have think about it, but you know how it is sometimes the head is still at the room

I have read this things here for so long time but I have been lucky so far even tho I stayed here now for 6 month it has always gone smothly and I always have the guard on.

But yesterday I let the guard down of some reason. She even started with the famous "you don't like me" when I didn't want to pay the price.

Thanks for reply

Jamaicanceo
05-04-09, 03:10
Does anyone know the current prices at Termas 502 in Centro?I was there late March and it was R$20 entrance and R$185.00 to session. It was my first-time, and I enjoyed it. The girls try hard to compete with 4x4 across the street. My wingman and I were on our way and I said what's that with the big bundas going in. We went in and I session and forgot about 4x4.

Helpmann
05-04-09, 04:30
I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning...You better be really young (<23) or really old (80+) to have made such an error in judgement. Words like Rio, Help, and Prostitute should be enough for any sensible man to limit the "relationship" to two hours.

No matter how unfortunate you think you are, I think that you're lucky. Yes, LUCKY! If the prostitute had had any smarts, she could have squeezed so much more out of you as a wife or divorcée.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:

Carrib
05-04-09, 04:31
Gavazzi,

I'm a big believer in red flags. It at least improves your odds considerably of avoiding the disasters or bad experiences. It seems you had quite a few of them.

Red Flags:

1. She quotes you a "stupid" price to start

2. After a "long discussion", she agrees to your reasonable price

3. She immediately starts throwing add-ons after you have agreed to a price (50R for her to go?)

Just me, but the first one would have had me on the fence. The second one would have had me looking around for another garota while I was getting a lesson in hard-ball garota negotiating techniques. If I was really lost in her for some reason, and I made it to the third step, I would have turned and just walked.

Just some thoughts.

There is no need to beat yourself up..u recovered nicely. There are always some GDPs who will try to take advantage of who they perceive an easy mark. You were in a no win situation, where it seemed that the cab driver was in on the scam.

Azn Safado
05-04-09, 05:07
Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip. This was the first time taking the Real Bus from GIG airport. Man, what have I been missing! The cost was only $R7 and the trip wasn't too long - only 50 minutes door to door. Compare that with the normal $R45 cab fare that I have been paying in the past, and that's hailing the legit cabs upstairs. The bus first stopped at Rodovaria bus station, then somewhere in Centro (downtown), then Santos Dumont airport, and finally Copacabana. I told the driver I was staying at Ibiza Hotel on Rua Beflort Roxo, even though I wasn't, so the bus driver dropped me off on the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Barrata de Ribeiro, near the apartment I was staying at.

Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.

Saw some of the usual suspects - Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me - did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.

I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...

Poucolouco
05-04-09, 05:43
Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip… Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible…

I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...
...

Are you confusing the demise of Help with Luomo? Luomo management has made some unpopular cost saving changes but I haven't heard any discussion about closing shop. Sixteen girls on a Sunday night in the low tourist season is actually a pretty good slate for Luomo. Sorry about your unintentional dry run.

Jesuscola
05-04-09, 10:53
Just arrived in Rio this Sunday morning, my 6th trip. This was the first time taking the Real Bus from GIG airport. Man, what have I been missing! The cost was only $R7 and the trip wasn't too long - only 50 minutes door to door. Compare that with the normal $R45 cab fare that I have been paying in the past, and that's hailing the legit cabs upstairs. The bus first stopped at Rodovaria bus station, then somewhere in Centro (downtown), then Santos Dumont airport, and finally Copacabana. I told the driver I was staying at Ibiza Hotel on Rua Beflort Roxo, even though I wasn't, so the bus driver dropped me off on the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Barrata de Ribeiro, near the apartment I was staying at.

Took a nap to get recharged and hit Luomo, which is always my first stop when I arrive in Rio on a weekend. I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10:30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.

Saw some of the usual suspects - Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me - did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.

I guess I will double-up at Solarium tomorrow. It's coupon Monday, so I will get $R70 off the cabine fee for sessioning. Hopefully, I can find 2 different girls to make up for today's loss...

Saturday night was quite a different scene, with a good 30-40 girls around 6:30, and a good number of guys. Quite a few of the girls were new and attractive, and some popular girls from the past--like Giselle and Luana and Nina--had returned. Saturday night was looking strong. I don't think I would judge any terma by what it looked like on a Sunday night...

Abzsafado
05-04-09, 12:20
Went past Casablanca club yesterday. Its ex New Munich club. Used to be worst club in Copa. There is no way that it could replace Help in case of closure.
Was it definitley called the Cassablanca, I could have sworn it was called the Copacabana club when I went past but then my eyesights not the greatest.
I had a couple of good nights in the Munich club a long time ago, they used to have an okay lesbian act at one time. Trying to get a 1000 people in there might be a tight squeeze.

Chezz
05-04-09, 14:41
Saturday night was quite a different scene, with a good 30-40 girls around 6:30, and a good number of guys. Quite a few of the girls were new and attractive, and some popular girls from the past--like Giselle and Luana and Nina--had returned. Saturday night was looking strong. I don't think I would judge any terma by what it looked like on a Sunday night...I'm on a plane in 3 hours and JC comes up with the motivational post of the week. When L'uomo is happening, all is right in Rio (for me anyway...ymmv).

Thanks!

Hitmanm3
05-04-09, 17:07
According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.

Thanx

Fashion
05-04-09, 18:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXMHvdK_YKc


Hello

Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.

But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?

I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?

I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.

To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.

There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.

What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?

Take care all

Wanderer1000
05-04-09, 19:07
There is no need to beat yourself up..u recovered nicely. There are always some GDPs who will try to take advantage of who they perceive an easy mark. You were in a no win situation, where it seemed that the cab driver was in on the scam.

I don't think Gavazzi took my comments to mean that I was giving him a beating, or that he was beating himself up. It's just that looking at red flags would have avoided getting to the taxi to begin with. We've all been where Gavazzi was - with our own variations on the story. It's good to offer each other support and reminders.

Azn Safado
05-04-09, 19:13
Are you confusing the demise of Help with Luomo? Luomo management has made some unpopular cost saving changes but I haven't heard any discussion about closing shop. Sixteen girls on a Sunday night in the low tourist season is actually a pretty good slate for Luomo. Sorry about your unintentional dry run.

I guess "demise" was a wrong choice of words. Haha. I meant to use a word for "going downhill", as I have read on this message board that many Copa termas have been headed that direction. Then again, many posters are comparing these termas to the hey days of the early 2000's. Nevertheless, I hear Monte Carlo is back on the way up. I shall see tomorrow at MC, as it is coupon night there for $R60 off cabine fee for a session.

That's good to hear that Luomo was jumping on Saturday. I will check out Luomo again this coming Saturday then. Until then, it's off to Solarium in a couple of hours to double-down and make up for last night's non-action.

Rio Bob
05-04-09, 19:26
According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.

Thanx

I'm curious what that really means.

1. Does it mean that the owners of Help are going to open a club in the basement of the Iberostar hotel?

OR

2. Does it mean that the Iberostar has opened a club in the hotel they just bought from the Meridien that they refurbished top to bottom and inside and out and the girls from Help are just going to start going to this new club?



I would suspect that it would be closer to choice number 2, since there is a large space in the Iberostar for a club, many years ago in the 80's when it was the Meridien they had a club called Regine's and there has been no club there for many years, so it is possible that the new management is opening a club there. But I wouldn't think they want the GDP's from Help but then can they stop them?

I think it would be a great idea, think about how many Mongers would stay in the hotel. Go downstairs to the club, have a few drinks, dance then take you're new found one night stand up the elevator to your room. It eliminates the taxi problem outside and many security problems.

This club/space although a good size is no where close to the size of Help. It had a small dance floor/a bar, tables. A good size but not as big as Help, as a matter of fact not many clubs are, it will be hard to replace.

SlimHoleDrill
05-04-09, 19:29
According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.

Thanx

This is confusing on several points. First, I don't recall there being a club in the Meridian but in any case, the Meridian has been boarded up for some time now. There were lots of clubs near the Meridian, most of which are still there, seedier than they were, and none large enough to replace Help. You could say that Mabs used to be the TA of more than 20 years ago. You could still find a friend there today.

What does not make sense is that if they close Help, they would just let it relocate in Copacabana. The whole reason for closing it is to clean up and just moving it elsewhere is not likely to make the civic minded folks pushing this very happy.

If it is closed, the girls will probably redistribute themselves along the various restaurants, bars and clubs along Copacabana. This is not good for either the buyers or sellers. It's like going from a supermarket back to the corner grocery. Maybe another "supermarket" will emerge. Anyway, mongering won't go away, it may just be decentralized.

Gavazzi
05-05-09, 01:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXMHvdK_YKcHahaha I'm not from Italy, so it wasnt exactly like that. But not far from it.

Poucolouco
05-05-09, 03:14
According to my sources in Rio, Club Help is moving to the club that was in the Meridian if anyone knows different please report. According to a friend, who is out there as I report the news, the guys out number the girls 20/1 and the asking price is 300r to start with and those are just for 5-6. The better ones are at 400r and up. This is due to the Europeans who are just paying whatever these ladies ask for. If anyone is out there please lets us know what the real story is.

Thanx
The Meridien is owned by PREVI, the employee pension fund of the Bank of Brasil. It was leased to the Spanish hotel chain Iberostar in 2007 and closed for renovation. All work came to a halt in 2008 when disagreements over costs reached an impasse. The Rio de Janeiro government is anxious to find an alternative tenant to replace the millions of revenues lost since the closure of le Meridien. PREVI has been searching for a new tenant but asserts that there is an agreement with the city of Rio de Janeiro that it may only operate as a hotel under an agreement dating back to the 1970s when it was constructed to a height which exceeded building limits for Copacabana. There have been several proposals for mixed use of the building as offices, condominiums and hotel but the use restriction seems to prohibit alternative businesses from operating in the facility. Given this situation, it is highly unlikely that Rio politicos after taking credit for closing Help would be a party to lifting the restrictions to allow Help to relocate in the building.

However, in Brasil government actions are not always as one might expect.

Pelongera
05-05-09, 03:45
I got there at around 8:30p. Rumors of Luomo's demise was not greatly exaggerated. At this time, I counted 17 guys and about 8 girls. Where the hell were all of them? Doing programas? By 10: 30p, there were maybe 8 more girls, and a lot of the guys had left by then. So the ratio became about 16 girls to 12 guys. Pretty terrible.

Saw some of the usual suspects. Ruby/Hoopy, Bea, Jamelle. Nothing appetizing for me. Did not see Giselle or Natalia. Finally, one really cute girl caught my eye. I think she is new to Luomo. I swear her face looked like Ellen Page from the movie Juno, except she had lighter colored hair. Body was pretty nice looking. She was occupied with some guy that kept trying to paw her and she kept pushing him away. I could never really make any eye contact with this girl throughout the hour or so I was there. I finally sat next to her and she got up and left. Hmmm. Bad vibe. She seemed kind of stuck up, so might not have been a good lay anyway. So I decided to beat it out of there after staying for 2 1/2 hours and not seeing anything else worth my interest.thanks Azn.

Can you get your entrance money back if you dislike the crop?

I've never been to Rio, booked for August.

Azn Safado
05-05-09, 04:30
I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.

Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.

At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!

Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.

I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...

Azn Safado
05-05-09, 04:47
thanks Azn.

Can you get your entrance money back if you dislike the crop?

I've never been to Rio, booked for August.

Unfortunately, you can't get your entrance money back. I don't know of any termas that will let you get your entrance money back. Luomo does have 50% off entrance on Monday-Friday before 7pm, but even then I think you have to session with a girl to qualify for the discount.

There are some strip clubs and take-out bars (Frank's, Ciccolina's, Sensoo, etc) in Posto 2 that allow you to do a quick 2 minute "look and see" of their talent for free before committing to the cover charge, but that's about as far as it goes.

Pelongera
05-05-09, 05:24
Unfortunately, you can't get your entrance money back. I don't know of any termas that will let you get your entrance money back. Luomo does have 50% off entrance on Monday-Friday before 7pm, but even then I think you have to session with a girl to qualify for the discount.

There are some strip clubs and take-out bars (Frank's, Ciccolina's, Sensoo, etc) in Posto 2 that allow you to do a quick 2 minute "look and see" of their talent for free before committing to the cover charge, but that's about as far as it goes.Thank you, Az. I like look-sees.

Where do you get the Monday coupon for Solarium?

And good luck tomorrow!

JohnnyBraz
05-05-09, 07:11
Hello

Just came home from a quit bad night. Has the girls get mad about the prices? I'm mostly go to termas or help/balcony and on those places its around 100 to 300 Rs depening on girl and time.

But tonight I shuold try the "new" place CasaBlanca. I talked to a girl and made some small kisses after that she told the price 700Rs! Or 200dollar as she say, what is this?

I said I will pay you 200Rs no more and after some big discussion she go for 200Rs. Then I should pay for go, it was 10Rs for one beer and 30Rs her drink and the I should pay 50Rs for go with her! ?

I talked to the italian guy manager and he let me got it for free so of we went to take out money. Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.

To be honsest I got a little affraid and say ok. But then we start to drive and I got pissed of. I say ok go to the police then I don't care or to casablanca, the driver went to the club.

There it end up talking to manager and he didn't care about the damn girl so I said to her take this 40Rs and get out of my face.

What is this, are the girls starting to thing they are luxury putas?

Take care allTo stop this problem, just go to the termas. Find a women there for tln (no problem). Don't touch the favela trash from mp. I can't understand why mongers pay top dollar for this trash.

Mangera
05-05-09, 13:08
I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.

Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.

At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!

Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.

I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...

Congrats on your last statement......." Just hang out and see where it goes " Its always good to state expectations up front, but there some exceptions, especially if there is a chemistry there. Chances are there will be a couple of freebies......but as we all know, paying for dinner and gifts cost cash too :) Its all good. Most importantly, there is a great chance you will get the famous " GFE"

Been there, done that ( the termas girl inviting me to the beach on her day off ), good luck, and have a blast!

I will have my share of the pie when I get there next month.

Acenva
05-06-09, 01:11
I had some time to kill in the afternoon today, so I decided to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico and then walk to Solarium. This was around 4:30p. I waited for a bus on NS Copacabana that listed Jardim Botanico as one of the stops, got on and paid my $R2,20. Bus goes around, ends up in Catete. I'm thinking "uh oh". I ask the driver where is Jardim Botanico and he says this isn't the correct bus, as this one will end in Lapa. So he advises me to stay till the route ends. He then puts me on another bus that is going to Jardim Botanico. So 90 minutes after I got on the first bus, I finally get off at the correct stop and walk 2 blocks to get to the promised land. So much for experimenting with the bus system. Haha. The subway metro to Centro is much easier.

Upon my arrival at Solarium at 6pm, I present my $R70 off free cabine coupon. Pretty much the only time I go to Solarium is on Mondays because of the coupon. Otherwise, this place is way overpriced. There were about 20 girls and 10 guys when I first got there. By 7:30p, there were about 30 girls and 15 guys, so not too bad a ratio. The only usual suspects I saw were Lara (or her twin sister, I can't tell who's who) and Doris.

At 8pm, I finally find a girl I like - some spinner with dirty blonde hair. We sit in the boite for about 30 minutes drinking cola and making out. Then off to the cabine. Very good session - beijos, bbbj, covered sex. I tried a 2nd pop but couldn't muster the strength in my ripe old age of 37. Haha. Afterwards, this girl invites me to go Ipanema beach tomorrow. She wants to go at 0900 hours. Crap, I would rather sleep but I will take one for the team here!

Oh yeah, total damage for the 40 minute session - including drinks was $R250. Their new normal price is $R285 for entry+room+girl.

I've never actually gotten a Solarium girl to come over to my apartment for todo a noite, as they all seem to want $R400 (Luomo girls seem easier and quote lower prices). I have however, ended up becoming friends with a couple of them and gotten freebies after taking them out to eat dinner and hanging out. So for this girl, I'm not even going to bring up sex or money. I'll just hang out and see where it goes...

I always find it fun to hang out with terma girls on their day off or after work.. I have had plenty of freebies and or just pay my taxi home. We go out to eat or dancing in Lapa then some fun back at the apartment. I always try to keep at least a couple per trip available depending upon time. If the chemistry is there you will have a great time. When I was down in March one of my terma girls from 4X4 came by 2 time to see me with no charge just a gift that I brought and taxi fare.

Just my 2 cevatos

Azn Safado
05-06-09, 04:10
I always find it fun to hang out with terma girls on their day off or after work.. I have had plenty of freebies and or just pay my taxi home. We go out to eat or dancing in Lapa then some fun back at the apartment. I always try to keep at least a couple per trip available depending upon time. If the chemistry is there you will have a great time. When I was down in March one of my terma girls from 4X4 came by 2 time to see me with no charge just a gift that I brought and taxi fare.

Just my 2 cevatos
Cool dude, that's always good to hear about the freebies. That's what makes Rio not-so-overpriced when you can factor that in.

MrK
05-06-09, 04:43
Time for another Rio trip!

Can't wait to go to 4X4, Luomos and Monte Carlo!

Has anyone seen Shayla lately?

I was in Rio just a few months back. Went to various termas and had a good time.

A gifted garota, not a stunner but a pleasant, nice looking woman, rocked my world near the end of my trip. I still think of her. Hopefully I can find her again but there's always more!

Shayla was one of the first terma garotas I had the pleasure of seeing. She was wild at Luomos and always gave me first class service. Ahhhhh, memories!

Azn Safado
05-06-09, 04:54
So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.

So 6pm rolls around and I arrive at Monte Carlo. I present my coupon for $R60 off cabine fee for a 40-minute session. Inside the boite, there were about 30 girls and 10 guys. Great ratio! I'd say about 5 stunners in the place, the rest of the crop varied.

So after about an hour, I settle in with this girl with black hair that looks kind of like a young Angie Harmon (formerly on TV's Law & Order). We chat, she is very nice, has no vices (no smoking, drinking), no kids. So far, so good. I asked if she wanted a drink, she said "no thank you". Again, good sign as she did not try to bleed me for a Red Bull. Then it comes to the kissing...She was one of those closed-mouth kissers, with minimal tongue. Kind of a red flag for me, but at this point, I was almost at the point of no return. I used to make out with girls in the boite all the time and move onto the next, but now I find it to be pretty inconsiderate and misleading to the girls, so I don't really do that anymore.

We finally go up to the cabine. Some kissing, not great. She then gives a bbbj for about a minute, then gives a covered bj, then pulls it off and gives a bbbj again. I'm thinking, "can't this chick make up her mind?". So then I decide to go down on her. She just lays there with her eyes closed, no reaction at all. I pulled out every tongue trick in my bag, still no reaction. I was beginning to think she was either dead or asleep. At this point, I'm totally turned off. The whole session seemed so CLINICAL to me.

So next she busts out the KY jelly out of her purse. By now, the dreaded E.D. (Erectile Dysfunction) has already hit. Oddly enough, this was the first time I have experienced going limp in over 40 sessions at these termas. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. A bunch of thoughts and doubts started to wander in my mind as this was happening, such as "should I even try to cum, or save it for another terma?" and "why is she using KY jelly, do I not make her horny? (Austin Powers' voice and all)". I may be wrong, but when they use KY, they must not be horny for me. Haha. Well, at least all the great sessions in my opinion have been so spontaneous with no interruptions, such as the garota taking a break in the action to resort to the lube. Add that thought to the whole clinical feel of the session, and there was no turning back. She proceeded to give me more bbbj and hand job, etc, nothing was going to work even as I was trying to think about porn, etc. Haha.

So time was almost up and I told her it wasn't gonna happen. She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion. Of course when this Erectile Dysfunction happens, it's a blow to both egos, ie, "I'm a man and I can't get it up?" and for the woman "I must not be sexy enough". All in all, an awkward situation. So I proceeded to kiss her goodbye, apologize for my lack of performance, and paid $R215 including drinks for the session. I liked the selection here tonight and want to come back this week, but it will be a little embarassing as I'm sure word has already spread throughout the powerful GDP Network that I'm a walking "limp noodle". Ha.

On my way out, it was 8:30p I was thinking "I ain't going out like that...". Taxi, take me to Solarium. Boy was this place jumping tonight. About 50 girls and seemed like 30 guys, the place was a zoo like 4x4! I ended up hooking up with the same girl from last night and all was right with the world. No more woody problems! Hoorah.

On tap tomorrow...4x4. Not sure if I will actually go tomorrow though, as I am supposed to meet this Solarium girl in the morning for the beach and hopefully some apartment action and later I have plans to meet a non-pro, not-hot friend (whom I met through MyLanguageExchange website last year) for dinner and to watch "X-Men Origins:Wolverine" movie.

Hitmanm3
05-06-09, 14:21
So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.The way I see it sometimes is not the tool that gives you the problem is the person using it. Hey so she did not know how to turn you on. Chuck it to experience and move on to the next one which you did. The sign should had been the kissing or lack of kissing on her part. If my solder doesn't salute when I kiss the girl I look at it as lack of chemistry and that is when I say NEXT. Great story keep them coming.

Lorenzo
05-06-09, 19:47
She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion.
In my experience, girls who are lousy in bed (truly a rarity in Rio) rarely know that they are lousy in bed. Consequently, they need to be told exactly what was lacking. How else will they learn? You made it perfectly clear to us just what was wrong, so IMHO you should have told her. But then, maybe you're more of a gentleman than I am.

L

Bizzie
05-07-09, 00:08
So today I was scheduled to meet last night's Solarium girl at Ipanema beach. Mother Nature had another say in the matter, as it was cloudy all morning and there was some light rain here and there. So my girl postpones the beach trip until tomorrow. No problem for me, I could just sleep in.

So 6pm rolls around and I arrive at Monte Carlo. I present my coupon for $R60 off cabine fee for a 40-minute session. Inside the boite, there were about 30 girls and 10 guys. Great ratio! I'd say about 5 stunners in the place, the rest of the crop varied.

So after about an hour, I settle in with this girl with black hair that looks kind of like a young Angie Harmon (formerly on TV's Law & Order). We chat, she is very nice, has no vices (no smoking, drinking), no kids. So far, so good. I asked if she wanted a drink, she said "no thank you". Again, good sign as she did not try to bleed me for a Red Bull. Then it comes to the kissing...She was one of those closed-mouth kissers, with minimal tongue. Kind of a red flag for me, but at this point, I was almost at the point of no return. I used to make out with girls in the boite all the time and move onto the next, but now I find it to be pretty inconsiderate and misleading to the girls, so I don't really do that anymore.

We finally go up to the cabine. Some kissing, not great. She then gives a bbbj for about a minute, then gives a covered bj, then pulls it off and gives a bbbj again. I'm thinking, "can't this chick make up her mind?". So then I decide to go down on her. She just lays there with her eyes closed, no reaction at all. I pulled out every tongue trick in my bag, still no reaction. I was beginning to think she was either dead or asleep. At this point, I'm totally turned off. The whole session seemed so CLINICAL to me.

So next she busts out the KY jelly out of her purse. By now, the dreaded E.D. (Erectile Dysfunction) has already hit. Oddly enough, this was the first time I have experienced going limp in over 40 sessions at these termas. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. A bunch of thoughts and doubts started to wander in my mind as this was happening, such as "should I even try to cum, or save it for another terma?" and "why is she using KY jelly, do I not make her horny? (Austin Powers' voice and all)". I may be wrong, but when they use KY, they must not be horny for me. Haha. Well, at least all the great sessions in my opinion have been so spontaneous with no interruptions, such as the garota taking a break in the action to resort to the lube. Add that thought to the whole clinical feel of the session, and there was no turning back. She proceeded to give me more bbbj and hand job, etc, nothing was going to work even as I was trying to think about porn, etc. Haha.

So time was almost up and I told her it wasn't gonna happen. She asked "Is it me?". I said "Of course not. I must be very tired, that's all. I'm sorry about this". She then apologized but I said it had nothing to do with her, although it really had a lot to do with her lack of passion. Of course when this Erectile Dysfunction happens, it's a blow to both egos, ie, "I'm a man and I can't get it up?" and for the woman "I must not be sexy enough". All in all, an awkward situation. So I proceeded to kiss her goodbye, apologize for my lack of performance, and paid $R215 including drinks for the session. I liked the selection here tonight and want to come back this week, but it will be a little embarassing as I'm sure word has already spread throughout the powerful GDP Network that I'm a walking "limp noodle". Ha.

On my way out, it was 8:30p I was thinking "I ain't going out like that...". Taxi, take me to Solarium. Boy was this place jumping tonight. About 50 girls and seemed like 30 guys, the place was a zoo like 4x4! I ended up hooking up with the same girl from last night and all was right with the world. No more woody problems! Hoorah.

On tap tomorrow...4x4. Not sure if I will actually go tomorrow though, as I am supposed to meet this Solarium girl in the morning for the beach and hopefully some apartment action and later I have plans to meet a non-pro, not-hot friend (whom I met through MyLanguageExchange website last year) for dinner and to watch "X-Men Origins:Wolverine" movie.
I can sympathize.
This has happened to me at least once, and that too when I has taken a quarter pill of V (courtesy of a sales rep about 5 years ago). It was solely from lack of passion/response from the chic

Actually the very first time I got a limp noodle was at age 17, in one of the Times Squre porn theaters (side rooms), with a so-so chick who wanted to give me a hand job instead of BBBJ as negotiated.
Turned me off completely, plus some fear factor (my first p4p, foced upon me by my buddies):)

I was extremely upset at what happened. To regain confidence, I went home and fucked the sense out of my GF for 16 hours straight.
She was forever greatful, and I...... I was 'the man' once again.:D

Shit happens.
Cheers.

Jamaicanceo
05-07-09, 00:12
I can sympathize.

This has happened to me at least once, and that too when I has taken a quarter pill of V (courtesy of a sales rep about 5 years ago). It was solely from lack of passion/response from the chic

Actually the very first time I got a limp noodle was at age 17, in one of the Times Squre porn theaters (side rooms), with a so-so chick who wanted to give me a hand job instead of BBBJ as negotiated.

Turned me off completely, plus some fear factor (my first p4p, foced upon me by my buddies):)

I was extremely upset at what happened. To regain confidence, I went home and fucked the sense out of my GF for 16 hours straight.

She was forever greatful, and I...... I was 'the man' once again.:D

Shit happens.

Cheers.A so-so chick? Would that be the same as a tranny or boygirl? Explain please.

Jamaicanceo
05-07-09, 00:16
I'm sorry but you stand your ground at 150 inside of Help? Which means she only ends up with 100 reais, what kind of skanks are you getting?March 2008, I got two great looking and great fucking 19 year-old cousins out of Help for $R150,00 a piece. I swear, they watched cartoons between turns. Now, Paola, calls me cartoon when I see her at Mea Pataca.

Ryjerrob
05-07-09, 00:39
After a really shitty experience with Delta losing my luggage, I started drinking pretty heavy. I must admit, traveling in Rio with a female cousin has had some advantages so far. My cousin is pretty clueless about the whole mongering thing. She's a really good looking woman in her twenties. So while hanging out with 2 non-pros, this Brazilian guy starts trying to talk to her. I must admit, this was funny to see, especially when he took a knee and asked her to marry him.

With my cousin safely back in Laranjeiras, it was time to go to work. Ran into a few familiar faces at TA. But was more interested in drinking. While the bill wasn't much, my stomach was on empty. Took this young PYT back to Laranjeiras where we continued to drink at a street bar. Then it was off to a makeshift love motel. The sex was interesting. She seemed to anticipate my every move. It was like she was in my head. It was the best ten minutes of the day. Don't remember her name, and didn't get her number. It was the 8 caprivodka's that I consumed.

Women seen more or less intrigued by my cousin an I together. It's kind of like having a cute child with you, or a little puppy. I got three phone numbers from women working a various stores in Centro. This is great. So today after exiting the metro at Largo do Merchado, I had my cousin wait at a little pizza place. I made a made dash for my favorite little 15 minute for R$30 place. This little spinner rode me like it was her job! Oh yeah, it was her job. This fifteen minutes ended up being better the the ten the previous night. I love this little place on Rua Benito Lisboa.

When i got back to my cousin about 20 minutes later, I gave her some song and dance about running into a store. I'm thinking I may go back tonight if my cousin falls asleep early like she says.

ryjer.

Bizzie
05-07-09, 16:30
A so-so chick? Would that be the same as a tranny or boygirl? Explain please.
I mean an avergage looking (not ugly) girl, espcially when compared to my then present girl friend(s).
But despite having watched the porn in the next room, poor attitude and fear resulted in a limp noodle!
It was bad for morale but I got over that wihtin a couple of days:)

Azn Safado
05-07-09, 19:02
Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right. So we made plans for Thursday at 10am...More on this later.

So I make plans with another garota that used to work at Solarium but quit a few weeks ago. She said she would come by the apartment at noon and we would order Chinese food. 1pm rolls around, I text her telling her I'm hungry and she says "I'm on my way". About 20 minutes later, she texts again and says "Sorry I can't make lunch today. Something unexpected came up."

What the hell? What's with these garotas flaking all the time? I am having a bad run of luck here. I guess when there is no money involved/discussed, I shouldn't be that surprised although these girls in general haven't flaked on me in the past. Law of averages kicking in now, or regression to the mean, I guess. So a waste of a day so far. Later, I end up meeting the non-pro, not-hot friend for dinner and a movie at LeBlon Shopping mall. By the time this outing was over, it was past midnight, so I called it day - without sex mind you. Oh well, I will make it up at 4x4 tomorrow...

Poucolouco
05-07-09, 21:21
Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right. So we made plans for Thursday at 10am...More on this later.

So I make plans with another garota that used to work at Solarium but quit a few weeks ago. She said she would come by the apartment at noon and we would order Chinese food. 1pm rolls around, I text her telling her I'm hungry and she says "I'm on my way". About 20 minutes later, she texts again and says "Sorry I can't make lunch today. Something unexpected came up."

What the hell? What's with these garotas flaking all the time? I am having a bad run of luck here. I guess when there is no money involved/discussed, I shouldn't be that surprised although these girls in general haven't flaked on me in the past. Law of averages kicking in now, or regression to the mean, I guess. So a waste of a day so far. Later, I end up meeting the non-pro, not-hot friend for dinner and a movie at LeBlon Shopping mall. By the time this outing was over, it was past midnight, so I called it day - without sex mind you. Oh well, I will make it up at 4x4 tomorrow...

Whether it's just a date or sex, when a Brasiliera says "I'm coming" don't take her seriously. :)

DreamCarnarvon
05-08-09, 01:42
Was supposed to go to the beach with the girl from Solarium. She said she would call me at 9am. I don't hear from her and I call her at 2pm when I wake up. She claims she called but my phone didn't ring. Ha. Right.I'm not surprised by your account at all. Last time I was in Rio, I hooked up with a GDP I met at Help and we made plans to meet at my apartment for a quickie. I emailed her the meeting place and time and she emailed back saying she will be there. Be there my ass. I waited for her the whole nite and she never showed up. The next nite I got smart and called her cell and she gave some poor excuse for not showing up. So that nite I got my revenge and f--ked the sh-t out of her. Haha.

Azn Safado
05-08-09, 03:32
On Day 4, the garota from Solarium said to call her today to go to the beach at 10 am. So I wake up and call...no answer. I send her a text message, only never to hear back. Oh well, who knows what goes on in their diabolical little minds, so it's par for the course.

So 3pm rolls around and I hop on the Subway Metro at Cardeal Arcoverde station. I get off on the Uruguiana stop and hoof it 5 minutes to get to 4x4 at around 3:45 pm. I go into the boite and there are over 60 girls in there, and maybe 20 guys, which is less dudes than usual, although I know it will pick up fiercely by 7pm. Saw some of the usual suspects - Melany (beautiful red-head), Cher (blondie), and Jully (petite dark haired girl). Didn't see Amanda (Halle Berry looking chick with the big bunda).

I then sit, talk to a few girls and finally settle in on a little dark-haired spinner. She asked me to guess her age and I said "23". She jokingly said "I am about to cry...I'm 19". So I said I was clueless because every garota says she's "23". She seemed cool, friendly. So we chat it up and then start the kissing. She was a good kisser and I looked at my watch...4:51 pm. So I say "vamos" as I had the intent of sessioning before 5pm today to waive the $R40 entry fee.

I choose the 1 hour cabine and the session was very good, bbbj, lots of passion. Later within that hour, we attempt round 2 but the little soldier would only comply off and on. Strange, since I took a day off yesterday and I am not too old yet (37), at least I don't think I am. Ha. Time finally ran out and I got her phone number.

Oddly enough, since 4x4 is a matter of "quality by quantity", I have mostly had mediocre sessions there. Today was one of the better ones. On my way out, I do one more "drive by" in the boite, scoping out prospects for tomorrow. I talk to this super cute brunette who said she comes in at 5 pm. So tomorrow I will forgo the "session before 5pm" discount and give this cutie a test drive...Total damage today was $R200, still one of the best values in Rio quality-wise.

Brazilman
05-09-09, 00:27
I hate to break the news to you, but the flakeout rate on a terma girl getting up to go to the beach to meet you, is high. These girls are so tired from all the hours they are forced to work, including all the drinking they do. What they tell you at 8pm, and what they do at 10 am, when they decide they rather sleep in, rather then make 200 reals, are 2 different things. You would have to offer them alot more than the usual rate, to get them motivated to get up. They know they will make the money at the terma. There are girls that work the day and girls that work the termas. You want to stick to one or the other. You have a better chance of getting the girls to meet you after work to go out at night than you do the day. That even is hard because they might be too tired to go out after. It all depends on how many tricks they did that night. The girl that said she would meet you might not have gone home until 5 am. She isn't getting up at nine.

Grinder62
05-09-09, 04:03
On Day 4, the garota from Solarium said to call her today to go to the beach at 10 am. So I wake up and call...no answer. I send her a text message, only never to hear back. Oh well, who knows what goes on in their diabolical little minds, so it's par for the course.Well in Latin America the 50-50 100 rule applies. 50-50 that they show up at all and 100% that they will be late! You always need a plan B, C etc.

Eric Cartman
05-09-09, 04:53
M

Paris Café: now we’re talking. Strip cub atmosphere. Give you a paper card to mark down your drinks. Loaded, I say loaded with prime poontang dressed slutty. Ya! I love it. Settle on a stunner dark garota w/ short hair, tall, long legs, 8ish. Great attitude. Start drinking shots and get plastered. Partner picks his, another modelo. Head up to cabins. Really nice and big. So. She shoves a towel at the base of the door, cracks the window open and lights up a joint. "Para Voce? " wasted & stupid "sim" now I’m wasted& stoned. Idioto! Could have gone sour, but. . This was my best experience in Rio. She was super fun, all holes, BBBJ. Epic! This is the Mecca!

Paris Cafe? Never heard of this place before, and I've been reading the boards. Maybe I missed it. Can anyone shed additional light?

JohnnyBraz
05-09-09, 06:12
Paris Cafe? Never heard of this place before, and I've been reading the boards. Maybe I missed it. Can anyone shed additional light? Yeah I have heard off it, I was in 502 (in April) having a few beers, and some brazilian was talking about it, reakons that the women are top notch material. Couldn't understand where it was though. Ended up leaving and going to 4x4.

JohnnyBraz
05-09-09, 06:21
Anyone on the ground in Rio? Anynews about Help closing? Wasn't it supose to close this weekend or next weekend? And the ta restraunt to close too.

JohnnyBraz
05-09-09, 06:28
March 2008, I got two great looking and great fucking 19 year-old cousins out of Help for $R150, 00 a piece. I swear, they watched cartoons between turns. Now, Paola, calls me cartoon when I see her at Mea Pataca. That say's it all mp trash that are going in help. The garotas that I take from help would not be seen at mp, nor do they hang around out the front off help.

Sperto
05-09-09, 07:59
http://www.pariscafe.com.br

Av. das Américas 15105, Recreio dos Bandeirantes.

http://maps.google.se/maps?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&q=pariscafe+rio+de+janeiro&fb=1&split=1&gl=se&cid=912609262673241731&li=lmd&z=14&t=m

Eric Cartman
05-09-09, 09:01
http://www.pariscafe.com.br

Av. das Américas 15105, Recreio dos Bandeirantes.

Thanks. Looks pretty far off the beaten track.

Ryjerrob
05-09-09, 17:55
In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party, and went with a group of 6 other people. In the group was myself, my female cousin, an american who teaches favela kids english, and 4 brasilian women. Now going to dinner at someone's house, and taking a cab up the winding roads is another thing.

It was worth the experience, but not for the faint of heart. The music was loud, the girls bangin', and the drinks cold. I was greatly surprised to see the guys with automatic weapons walking in lines through the party, like a patrol or something. I felt like I was dressed perfect for the occasion, but my cousin wished she was wearing less, and looked more like the other girls.

It was a great time. We danced until 5am, then I took my girl home, she had to open the salon at 9am this morning. If you ever hit one of these parties, wear foam ear plugs.

Oh yeah, when were leaving, and just reaching Sa Farreira, I ran into some club girl that I knew.

ryjer


not recommended for everyone!!!!!!!!!

Sperto
05-09-09, 20:33
In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party...
I think you missed the most important thing, where was this baile funk? Which favela?

I've only been to baile funk in Rocinha (at Emoções) which was excellent. Other bailes close to zona sul are interesting information for all of us.

Ryjerrob
05-10-09, 01:06
I think you missed the most important thing, where was this baile funk? Which favela?

I've only been to baile funk in Rocinha (at Emoções) which was excellent. Other bailes close to zona sul are interesting information for all of us.

Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q

ryjer

JohnnyBraz
05-10-09, 02:00
Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q

ryjerI have been in that favela many times. It is quite safe. There are a set of steps you can walk down to leave the favela. Go up the road way, and leave via the steps. If the police see gringos going in and out off the favela they will make trouble for you. The favela even has a internet cafe half way up the hill. Near the hair dressers there.

Poucolouco
05-10-09, 04:26
Sorry about that. The music was great, but so damn loud. At one point they were playing hip hop videos alongside the funk music. The favela was Pavão Pavaãozinho. I had always heard this was a safer favela, but there was some trouble last week with the police and an element within.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=pt-BR&cd=1&split=0&vps=1&jsv=157e&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=44.419463,47.900391&geocode=FTNWof4d4eZs_Q


ryjer

I agree about the noise, I used to live nearby. The music often starts Friday evening and runs until Monday morning. You can hear it on N.S. Copacabana. As for trouble, there is a lot of shooting, both intramural and intra-gang, plus police raids every month or so.

Your map put me right in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Try this link:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=100+saint+roman,+copacabana,+rio+de+janeiro,+rj,+brazil&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=30.406222,56.25&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=-22.97974,-43.192577&spn=0.004307,0.006866&z=17&iwloc=A

Azn Safado
05-10-09, 05:27
Day 6
Went to 4x4 on a Friday afternoon at 4:45p. Pretty packed sausage fest compared to yesterday. So I waited for the girl I met upon leaving 4x4 yesterday and she showed up a little after 5pm. We chatted in the boite for about 20 minutes and then headed up to the cabine for a 1-hour session. The session was pretty phenomenal. One of the main reasons is because I really clicked with this girl and had kind of an emotional connection with her. Whoa, now I'm starting to sound like a chick! Haha. Nevertheless, this was probably the first time where it crossed my mind to re-session with the same girl within the same night. I fought the urge and decided to give Luomo another shot, as a poster on this board said it was jumping last Friday night. Anyway, total damage was $R240 at 4x4.

So after leaving Centro and going to my apartment for a bit, I arrive at Luomo around 8:45pm. I walk into the boite and bam! Pretty much the same old disappointing crew from last Sunday night - seemed to be about 20 girls. I did see one new old face, ie, blonde Doris from Solarium is now at Luomo. Anyway, it was slim pickens to me, so I went to the relax room and chilled. There I met a cool ISG'er and we chatted for a bit. Also talked to another cool monger that I happen to run into on practically every trip. I think we all concurred that this place was dead tonight. After about midnight, I decided to bail because there wasn't really anything that appetizing to me this night. Total damage was $R70 for entry and a drink.

Day 7
Had some time to kill on Saturday, so I went to see "Wolverine" at Rio Sul during the day. Pretty good movie, but not as good as the trailers make it look. After the movie, I decided to hit Monte Carlo tonight. Got there at 6:30 pm and there were about 20 girls and around 8 guys. Chatted with 2 girls that used to work at Luomo, but their names escape me. I asked one of them why they switched to Monte Carlo and she said "Luomo tem poucos homens", ie, has too few male customers. Another of these ex-Luomo girls then tried to persuade me by saying "I promise you it will be good...if you're not satisfied, you can have your money back". That's actually a first money-back-guarantee that I've heard straight from a GDP's mouth. Anyway, I declined and after about an hour, I didn't see anything I really liked so I decided to hit Solarium. Btw, total damage at MC was $R60 entry fee.

I arrived at Solarium around 8pm. There were about 30 girls and 15 guys. I immediately sat down with a stunning brunette named Bea. She used to work at Monte Carlo. After some screening, I find out she has an Argentinian boyfriend and she said she "doesn't kiss in the boite", in addition to her being kind of distant in the boite. 3 red flags right there, and no way I can be sure she will kiss once we are in the room...So as appetizing as she was, I decided against taking her upstairs. So Lara (who has a twin sister) was also sitting there at the time. I chatted with her for about an hour. She's a sweet and cute girl. I had sessioned with her before, about 18 months ago. Although I really wanted something different, after awhile, I decided, what the heck, I know she won't disappoint at least. Session was good, just as I remembered. Total damage was $R285 for session and another $R30 for drinks. Damn, this place ain't cheap!

Tomorrow is Mother's Day, and also happens to be my last day in Rio. I have plans to meet a 4x4 girl for lunch. Of course, the way things have been going lately trying to get them to show up, I need a Plan B. As far as getting one last hurrah/session in, I think I may be screwed as I know Monte Carlo and Solarium are closed. My one saving grace might be Luomo - I think they were open last May during Mother's Day...

Ardgneas
05-10-09, 07:52
In my desire to switch things up more each trip, I accepted a trip to a favela funk party, and went with a group of 6 other people. In the group was myself, my female cousin, an american who teaches favela kids english, and 4 brasilian women. Now going to dinner at someone's house, and taking a cab up the winding roads is another thing.

It was worth the experience, but not for the faint of heart. The music was loud, the girls bangin', and the drinks cold. I was greatly surprised to see the guys with automatic weapons walking in lines through the party, like a patrol or something. I felt like I was dressed perfect for the occasion, but my cousin wished she was wearing less, and looked more like the other girls.

It was a great time. We danced until 5am, then I took my girl home, she had to open the salon at 9am this morning. If you ever hit one of these parties, wear foam ear plugs.

Oh yeah, when were leaving, and just reaching Sa Farreira, I ran into some club girl that I knew.

ryjer


not recommended for everyone!!!!!!!!!True, going into a favela with people walking around with guns is fine. OTOH the thought of having to listen to Baile Funk for hours on end is enough to scare anyone.

Azn Safado
05-10-09, 23:24
On my final day, I was lucky Luomo happened to be open on Mother's Day and it was the only game in town. I got there at 4:30p and there were literally 4 girls and 5 guys in the boite. I quickly chose one of the girls, Raquel or something. She was new to me, as I have never seen here before. After some quick screening, ie, just kissing and she was very good at it, so I said "vamos".

Once in the cabine, this girl was an animal. I would say this was the best session I have ever had at Luomo and I finally got my 2 pops in for a 40-minute session on this trip - and this was all unassisted by any Viagra. Total damage was $R250. On my way out, I peaked in the boite and there were about 10 girls by 5:45p.

Well, as I say goodbye to this great land, I am very happy I went out in style which already makes me longing for my next trip.

Hughdad
05-11-09, 00:38
Anyone ever go to their office and pick out a few girls from their book and then get a nearby hotel and have the ladies show up a few hours apart?

I am thinking this might be a good way to spend an early afternoon before hitting Centro clubs, etc.

I've used their sister agency, Karla Models, for a small party I had a motel before.

If going to Scortshow is a good option - what motel(s) do they like to use nearby their office?

Thanks for any advice.

Cachorro
05-11-09, 03:11
Then she suddenly start saying that she want to go to a fancy motel and the driver was with her about it. So I got pissed of and say go back to CasaBlanca. Then she say go to the police and the fu. Ing driver did it. She say give me 150Rs or I screem to the police, the damn driver went out and should tell the police.

Where was the place she wanted to go?

There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.

Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.

Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.

Ryjerrob
05-11-09, 03:26
True, going into a favela with people walking around with guns is fine. OTOH the thought of having to listen to Baile Funk for hours on end is enough to scare anyone.

They weren't walking around in the streets. I just all of a sudden say them in the building where the dancing was going on. It wasn't fine either, just an unusual experience. I didn't mind the music, in fact it was great. It was just so load where we were hanging out. My ears were closed for the better part of a day.

Poucolouco
05-11-09, 03:54
Where was the place she wanted to go?

There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.

Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.

Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.

Hotel Copa Linda. It's on N.S. Copacabana and rua Bolivar opposite Roxy Cinema. I think the rates are more like R$50 with R$15 commission to the GDP. Vanity Hotel on N.S. Copacabana and Djalma Ulrich, rates are about R$65. Vanity used to rebate R$10 to the GDPs but I think they discontinued that.

Abzsafado
05-11-09, 21:36
Where was the place she wanted to go?

There's a motel on the Copa strip that charges something stupid like 150 reais for a session. The girls like this place.

Why? Because the motel quietly rebates the girl 50 reais out of what the guy paid.

Sorry, I forget the name of the motel. It was somewhere along Barata Ribeiro or NS de Copa.
Most likely the Praia Lido, the one opposite the park with the big surfboard. But it might have been the Copa Mar.

Koolkid
05-11-09, 22:28
Where are people getting these coupons for discounted entry
to termas? Do you have to be a member of the termas to get them?

Whats the membership deal with luomo ay the moment?

6 days and counting, starting to get the butterflies now!!

Thanks

Exec Talent
05-11-09, 23:50
Where are people getting these coupons for discounted entry
to termas? Do you have to be a member of the termas to get them?

Whats the membership deal with luomo ay the moment?

6 days and counting, starting to get the butterflies now!!

Thanks
Monday: Solarium has a discount coupon for free Cabine.
http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php

Tuesday: Monte Carlo has a discount coupon for a free Cabine.
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/festainternet.shtml

Both also have some great specials from time to time like you can pay the entrance but the cost goes toward your drinks. MC has one of those on May 14. Solarium has a R$30 discount also on May 26 (Tuesday).

Also, both Solarium and Monte Carlo have frequent visitor programs. Solarium's is spend R$700 and your entrance is free. MC is spend R$500.

L'uomo no longer has a discount program. However, if you arrive before 7:00 the entrance is R$30. This really is not that big of a deal if you take a girl, since if you take a girl they discount you R$10. Net savings if you take a girl therefore is R$20. But, if you just want to go and hang out, you save R$30.

The entrance to 4x4 is free if you take a girl before 5:00.

Centaurus does not have a discount program. In fact, if you are a gringo they will pad your bill and everyone will have their hand out for a tip. Should you decide to go, just tell them you are not sure you want to go with a girl and they will charge you (unless you are Brazilian or hold your breath until you turn blue) $120. The "normal" charge is R$400 which includes a 40 minute session. Do make sure you ask for a printout of your charges. They will do whatever they can to try to get over on you. I still remember the time they tried to charge me for 16 caipirinhas. The girl I was with weighted all of 95 lbs. The drinks there are small, but still. The girl came to my defense and they reduced it to 8.

Hope this helps.

Koolkid
05-12-09, 08:15
Great info as usual. I will check their websites before I go to them, and look
for any offers. I think I will leave centaurus alone.

Thanks again

Mr Enternational
05-12-09, 09:03
Hotel Copa Linda. It's on N.S. Copacabana and rua Bolivar opposite Roxy Cinema. I think the rates are more like R$50 with R$15 commission to the GDP. Vanity Hotel on N.S. Copacabana and Djalma Ulrich, rates are about R$65. Vanity used to rebate R$10 to the GDPs but I think they discontinued that.

I stayed at the Hotel Copa Linda last time I was in Rio. It was R$100/day (didn't ask about hourly rates). I stopped by Vanity to ask what their daily rates were and he told me R$150. These prices make apartments or the Ibis downtown look even more attractive. This aparthotel might be worth checking out http://www.hotel-rio-de-janeiro.com/hotel349-residencial-apartt/apresentacao They offer free breakfast. However, the last time I wanted to make reservations I was quoted significantly more than the R$110 that the website quotes.

Sperto
05-12-09, 11:14
I stayed at the Hotel Copa Linda last time I was in Rio. It was R$100/day (didn't ask about hourly rates).
Once when I arrived late in Rio I stayed at Copa Linda for one night. I guess it might be OK (even though expensive) for a short session, but I would never stay there for several days. I hated that place.

At least the room I stayed in was small, no windows, rundown, noisy, lousy AC and an awful plastic covered mattress. :(

Hughdad
05-12-09, 18:05
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.

**********

All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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Sperto,

Thank you very much for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive and easy-to-understand list, maps and rating system. I have not been to VM yet (as I have been working on my language skills) and this info arms me with all I need. I feel confident in having a great experience there - even with limited working knowledge of the language.

Two questions:

1. I assume it is good to take the subway and walk into VM from the SC Metro station? I plan on going over during the day. Then walk and take the Metro back.

2. What is the best and safest time(s) to experience VM?

Again, thanks for all the great info and advice here.

Vaughnyb1
05-12-09, 19:49
Hey guys:

I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:

I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.

Thanks guys

Mr Enternational
05-13-09, 06:49
Once when I arrived late in Rio I stayed at Copa Linda for one night. I guess it might be OK (even though expensive) for a short session, but I would never stay there for several days. I hated that place.

At least the room I stayed in was small, no windows, rundown, noisy, lousy AC and an awful plastic covered mattress. :(
You hated it? Me too brother, but both of the people I rent apartments from were full. I think she gave me a "premium" room because it had a window on N.S. and a refrigerator. Even worse than the rooms was the mean ass lady behind the desk and they have a breaker box there where they can just switch your a/c off when they want to.

JohnnyBraz
05-13-09, 09:10
Hey guys:

I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:

I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.

Thanks guysYou will find loads off gyms on ns Copacabana.

Brazilman
05-13-09, 09:31
Let me get something straight. you are going to rio, and you want to know where you can get a treadmill? I have an idea. how about you walk outside by the beach. why would you use a treadmill when you will be on one of the most famous beaches in the world.

Huntsman
05-13-09, 14:36
Hey guys:

I will be making my first voyage to Rio in August plan to stay a month there and then 5 more months up the cast. I rented an apt in Leme which they say is quieter and away from the noise for a good nights sleep. My question is:

I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.

Thanks guysThis is the website of a really big gym, BodyTech, on Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana: http://www.abodytech.com.br/unidades01.asp?nomeunidade=copacabana.

I haven't been in there but have been told it's really impressive.

Sperto
05-13-09, 15:00
Two questions:
1. I assume it is good to take the subway and walk into VM from the SC Metro station? I plan on going over during the day. Then walk and take the Metro back.
2. What is the best and safest time(s) to experience VM?

Again, thanks for all the great info and advice here.
Yes, Metro to São Cristóvão and then a short walk to VM. Metro is OK but I prefer to take the bus 455 Meier from Copacabana. Going by metro takes more or less 35 minutes. Taking the bus can take anything between 25-60 minutes. Usually I arrive in 30 minutes when going by bus.

I know that everybody don't share my opinion, but I think VM is perfectly safe. If you go late it's good to take some caution on the way to/and leaving VM.

I think to many mongers give a horror picture of how unsafe VM is. The first time it might seem a bit disturbing, but you'll quickly get used to VM (and love with all of your heart:D).

I guess some people just don't feel comfortable at VM. They "do" VM once just like they do the Sugar Loaf, Cristo and the favela-tour. "Wow, what an awful disgusting place...". No problem at all, we are all different. IMO Rios biggest shithole is called Help. :)

Jan 156
05-13-09, 15:16
I like to work out, use the treadmill etc. Is there a good gym complete with jogging machines etc. in that viccinity meaning coppa, leme. Please let me know the web site and or number and if possible the price.


The one on Princesa Isabel on the junction of Copa and Leme may suit you. I always use it. Look for the mini supermarket on the Leme side of the street. Nearby is a car rental. You go up one floor in an apartment block and it overlooks the street. (If you scan the windows of the floors above the street from ground level you can see the gym.)

Web site?? Rock on - they spend your money on equipment, not that highfalutin' internetty stuff ;)

It's not the flashiest of gyms in Copa (there are many) but it has a good number of running machines, treadmills, fixed and free weights etc. There is a studio at the back with classes. You can get the price down by a) not having the use of the studio, b) only using it at off-peak times of c) if you are good at haggling. Prices are on the wall behind the reception (to your right as you come to the top of the stairs).

The trainers are all very friendly and give free help and advice.

Can't remember what I paid but I'll look it up and try to add it to the post.* As with any gym, rates will vary depending on how long you are staying. This one is very reasonable, but they will of course whack it up for anything less than a month. Try to avoid the 'day rate.'


*Seems I paid 93R a month. See here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843589&postcount=227) for details. I would add that sometimes the fingerprint scanner (used to admit members) didn't work properly, and occasionally I was asked if I had signed up for the full membership or just off-peak. But there was never any hassle and I never had to produce my receipt. I'd suggest you might want to hang on to your receipt as it's your first visit though.

Exec Talent
05-13-09, 16:36
Yes, Metro to São Cristóvão and then a short walk to VM.
Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.

http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831

I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.

Mr Enternational
05-13-09, 17:10
Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.

http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831

I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.

And bring an appetite. The food there is wonderful (and cheap)!

Dwilso39
05-13-09, 17:13
Sperto brings up another place that I think many visitors miss - São Cristóvão. It costs all of R$1 to get in.

http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event.detail&event_id=153831

I always have gone with a date, but had no trouble hitting up the locals. Dancing skills and Portuguese recommended.


Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.

Jan 156
05-13-09, 17:45
Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.

It's a big mostly open-air place. Very laid back and, like most of North Zone, full of ordinary people. Nowhere near the Sao Cristovao metro though - the suburb covers quite a large area and also includes Sao Cristovao park that sometimes has nice exhibitions and a fabulous Temple of Apollo that makes for way cool photos surrounded by a lake. The zoo at the end of the park is a bit scruffy but ok for a place to take a garota that goes all gooey over animals (especially if she's never been to a decent zoo). But if you can dance forro (or especially if you dance forro) then the market is a good bet and it won't even break the bank when you spend money on her.

July Gan
05-13-09, 19:01
Is this a club or an open are market? What is the best time/day to go. Will be in Rio next weekend and I will for sure check this place out.

The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao. It is enclosed in whar it looks like the shell of a stadium ( you may have seen it on the way into the city from Galeo airport on your right hand side just before the centro on the linha vermelha overpass)

I was there last friday night. The place was rocking. Great forro shows, dancing everywhere and lots of normal people around. Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why.

Lots of GDPs go there to eat and get drunk with their girlfriends at after terma closing time. It is pretty much open all night at the weekends.

As said, the food is fantastic, cheap, and the portions are huge (as are the cholesterol levels) Try "carne do sol" and "baiao a dois"

The most popular restaurant, judging by the number of punters, was Saverina. you will find it towards the end of the middle "promenade".

You can pull a local there with ease if you speak a little portuguese and like to dance (or at least have a low embarrassment threshold) Nobody cares there...

I would shell out 25 reais or so to go there by taxi. There is a rank outside to return. The surrounding area in the dark is pretty sinister. But then I am very cautious and many of you out there walk around VM with ease...

Poucolouco
05-13-09, 19:41
.The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao... Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why. Everytime I visit Sao Crisovao I am reminded of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the audience participation line, "Where's your fucking neck?" :D

Mangera
05-13-09, 20:31
The above is the commonly used name for the open air market at Sao Cristovao. It is enclosed in whar it looks like the shell of a stadium ( you may have seen it on the way into the city from Galeo airport on your right hand side just before the centro on the linha vermelha overpass)

I was there last friday night. The place was rocking. Great forro shows, dancing everywhere and lots of normal people around. Mind you, it is the meeting point for lots of nordestino migrants. Most of those from Northeast Brasil have not been blessed by good looks. What they miss in beauty they gain in cheerfulness (and safadeza) There is a type of dance which you will see in the small bars called "mela cueca" (literally "wet your underwear"). You will see, and hopefully experience, why.

Lots of GDPs go there to eat and get drunk with their girlfriends at after terma closing time. It is pretty much open all night at the weekends.

As said, the food is fantastic, cheap, and the portions are huge (as are the cholesterol levels) Try "carne do sol" and "baiao a dois"

The most popular restaurant, judging by the number of punters, was Saverina. you will find it towards the end of the middle "promenade".

You can pull a local there with ease if you speak a little portuguese and like to dance (or at least have a low embarrassment threshold) Nobody cares there...

I would shell out 25 reais or so to go there by taxi. There is a rank outside to return. The surrounding area in the dark is pretty sinister. But then I am very cautious and many of you out there walk around VM with ease...

I remember leaving Sao Cristovao one particular night last June with a group of Brasilian friends. As we crossed the street to catch a bus back to Ipanema, I realized there was a blue neon light above a staircase close to the corner, across the street from the main entrance.

I told my friends to wait a minute as I wanted to take a peak, yep, my hunch was right........termas. I noticed a bar set up, no ac, bunch of garotas in bikinis with high heels walking around making the rounds. Jeez, it was dark as hell in there. Being that my friends were with their wives or girlfriends, I quickly went outside, and got in the bus. Just thought someone could check it out, or give some sort of feedback.

Mangera
05-13-09, 20:38
This is the website of a really big gym, BodyTech, on Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana: http://www.abodytech.com.br/unidades01.asp?nomeunidade=copacabana.

I haven't been in there but have been told it's really impressive.

This place is extremely expensive, even by American standards. I was a member for just over a month to the one located a block away from Rua Visconde de Piraja, closer to the Leblon area. There is another in Ipanema, right on Visconde de Piraja, accross the street from the park. I think its on the same block as the citibank.

It is an excellent gym, with your own trainer for every session you show up for. I was not interested in the personal tran. since I already know my fair share of Exercise Phys. and athletic trainning. I still ended up paying around $125.00 US for those few weeks. Damn expensive. Oh, and that was over 3 years ago. Must be more costly now.

I use smaller gyms, and bargain for a deal according to my length of stay. Also, I have used the Muscle Beach outdoor gym which usually is set up in November - December time.

July Gan
05-13-09, 22:46
Everytime I visit Sao Crisovao I am reminded of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the audience participation line, "Where's your fucking neck?" :D


I was being polite. I am afraid your assessment is cruel but 100% correct! LOL

Poucolouco
05-13-09, 23:33
I was being polite. I am afraid your assessment is cruel but 100% correct! LOL

Originally a brasiliera described Nordestinas to me as no neck, etc. I then made the segue to the Rocky show. Obviously there are some beautiful Nordestinas. Miss Braisil 2009 is an example.

Sperto
05-14-09, 19:19
Going there:
1. Taxi.
2. Bus 474 from Copa.
3. Metro to São Cristóvão and then a 15 minutes quick walk.

Note: VM is very close to Feira dos Paraibas. 15 minutes walk and you enter from the back-side (cross a railway).

Ryjerrob
05-14-09, 21:51
Was walking the strip last night when I realized I was in front of Balcony. It was pretty empty, but the singer was interesting, so I stayed. Had more than a few beers. Some working comes over and asks for a cigarette, no problem. The she tells me this is her first time there and asks if I want some company. When I politely decline, she goes on and on about her skills. Talk about over kill.

Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?

ryjer

Carlos Primeros
05-14-09, 22:32
In Rio the Feira de Paraiba is more known as the Feira de Nordeste.

This place really rocks on Friday, Saturday and to some extend on Sunday. You find everything there, from the 10/10 GdP to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. But this place really really ROCKS!

I usually go there with my "dentista" on Friday evenings and I really have a ball there. Good music. Good and cheap food. Good drinks and then she is driving me home to a 5-star fuck. Gentlemen. This is life after 50!

Actually I had today a terrible day. I had to burry my budy of 40 years and my business associate. My his soul rest in peace.

He got only 58 years old. He was also a monger on the Thailand thread.

This shows how fucking short life is and that you have to use every second of it on our hobby.

When I look at some of these stupid flame-wars going on on the board I really ask myself if it is worth getting involved. I was also some time ago victim of some of the "flames".

Really. Life is too short to waste time on that. Enjoy your life and enjoy all the girls you can get your hands on and your cocks in!

These are my three centavos for today!

Carlos

Pipe Layer99
05-14-09, 23:42
.....
Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?
ryjer

Not yet. But there are two good looking girl ones there IMO. One white (Hispanic looking) and one young black girl. I spoken to them both a few times, but I did not get a strong vibe that they were available. Maybe I was just being too polite as usual. I mean they are working as waitresses not GdPs. Perhaps next time I will ask one out for a date while making small talk. Lets see what happens. Unless one of you lucky guys get to them first.

Pelongera
05-14-09, 23:44
Going there:

1. Taxi.

2. Bus 474 from Copa.

3. Metro to São Cristóvão and then a quick 15 minutes walk.

Note: VM is very close to Feira dos Paraibas. 15 minutes walk and you enter from the back-side (cross a railway).thank you for the details, sperto.

are there taxis out of there? I'm thinking of taking a bus to Vila Mimosa and taxi back to ipenema, if taxis wait in VM anywhere.

Ryjerrob
05-15-09, 05:08
I must say, this has been my best trip yet. I have spent a total of R$270 on girls and have gotten laid every day, repeatedly. Once you're accepted as part of someone's family, they go out of their way to set you up. So I'm dating this 24y/o hairdresser, and it's pretty cool. Today after they closed, the owner took us out for drinks, and actually paid the entire bill.

Another member of the same family is trying to set me up with another woman who works at another salon. This is wild......................, I mean all these women from these salons are practically throwing themselves at me. I can't get over it. There's so much free pussy out there, and all because I've been adopted. And they all want to talk to me.

ryjer

Jamaicanceo
05-15-09, 05:11
I must say, this has been my best trip yet. I have spent a total of are$270 on girls and have gotten laid every day, repeatedly. Once you're accepted as part of someone's family, they go out of their way to set you up. So I'm dating this 24y/o hairdresser, and it's pretty cool. Today after they closed, the owner took us out for drinks, and actually paid the entire bill.

Another member of the same family is trying to set me up with another woman who works at another salon. This is wild. , I mean all these women from these salons are practically throwing themselves at me. I can't get over it. There's so much free pussy out there, and all because I've been adopted. And they all want to talk to me.

RyjerWhere can I meet this family?

Mr Enternational
05-15-09, 08:29
Originally a brasiliera described Nordestinas to me as no neck, etc. I then made the segue to the Rocky show. Obviously there are some beautiful Nordestinas. Miss Braisil 2009 is an example.
Dude. I had to stop dating a chick in Rio who is from Belem because of that exact thing. One day I just woke up and thought to myself, "she doesn't have a neck!" And it completely turned me off.

JohnnyBraz
05-15-09, 09:04
Was walking the strip last night when I realized I was in front of Balcony. It was pretty empty, but the singer was interesting, so I stayed. Had more than a few beers. Some working comes over and asks for a cigarette, no problem. The she tells me this is her first time there and asks if I want some company. When I politely decline, she goes on and on about her skills. Talk about over kill.

Anyone ever pull one of the waitresses from there? Was curious if they were promoted to waitstaff or demoted gdp's?

ryjerNo, the white waitress is well fuckable though. She wears a ring on her weeding finger. She's been there over a year.

Perkele
05-15-09, 11:19
No, the white waitress is well fuckable though. She wears a ring on her weeding finger. She's been there over a year.

The waitresses in Balcony are hard to get to. First of all quite a few of them are manager's / owners girlfriends and thus they won't go with (other) gringo. Also in the past they simply were fired if they were caucht talking to the customers, not to mention if they were giving phone numbers.

So, from the current ones I seriously doubt that it is possible to "date" any of them. Maybe some of the new ones might go, but the old (meaning who have been there for a few years) ones won't even talk to you outside of Balcony.

That being said, my experience is that 99,9999999999% of women between 18 - 99 in Copacabana are able and willing to give you some if there is an opportunity. Just remember, there is no free lunch in Copa.

Ryjerrob
05-15-09, 13:14
Where can I meet this family?

Not this particular family, just knowing someone in general. The sister wants me for her friend, and the sister in-law wants me for another friend. And because their friends see me as one of the family, especially at the salons where they work, everyone seems to be openly flirting with me.

Sperto
05-15-09, 15:14
"Swaying palmtrees, paradise-like beach and a lot of young beautiful people."

or

"Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil."

30% of the population in Copa are over the age of 60. Imagine in the 50's when all these old people were young. There must have been a lot of nice and sexy women in Copa.

One of the best thing with Copacabana is that it's close to Ipanema. :D

Hughdad
05-15-09, 16:18
"Swaying palmtrees, paradise-like beach and a lot of young beautiful people."

or

"Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil."

30% of the population in Copa are over the age of 60. Imagine in the 50's when all these old people were young. There must have been a lot of nice and sexy women in Copa.

One of the best thing with Copacabana is that it's close to Ipanema. :DAmen to that!

Eros74
05-15-09, 16:28
....Palmtrees that shelters homeless people and drugaddicts, dirty water and the bairro with the highest percentage of old people in Brazil....

Sperto I quote you so much and this was what, when during my first day I went to copa, made think how is overated Brazil, even if, yes, yes... terma girls are terma girls... I know....

Sperto
05-15-09, 16:57
Sperto I quote you so much and this was what, when during my first day I went to copa, made think how is overated Brazil, even if, yes, yes... terma girls are terma girls... I know....
Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.

Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.

P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.

Sperto
05-15-09, 17:18
thank you for the details, sperto.
are there taxis out of there? I'm thinking of taking a bus to Vila Mimosa and taxi back to ipenema, if taxis wait in VM anywhere.
Yes, right on the frontstep to the ho-houses.
(They have pretty nice jobs.:))

Poucolouco
05-15-09, 17:58
Dude. I had to stop dating a chick in Rio who is from Belem because of that exact thing. One day I just woke up and thought to myself, "she doesn't have a neck!" And it completely turned me off.

If this is her, the body looks OK. Did she have the characteristic square head? Kkkkk :D

Jamaicanceo
05-15-09, 18:55
Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.

Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.

P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.So where is the clitoris?

Mangera
05-15-09, 20:09
Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.

Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.

P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.
Where does SP fall into the anatomy of the human body?

Ardgneas
05-15-09, 20:45
Where does SP fall into the anatomy of the human body?
It's the brain.

Pipe Layer99
05-15-09, 22:05
Luckily Copacabana doesn't represent Brazil.

Imagine Brazil as a human body. Salvador being the heart, São Luís being the eyes, Fortaleza being the tits, Manaus being the vagina, Rio being the bunda and then Copacabana will be the a-hole.

P.S Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Copa, on the contrary. I always found it a bit magical.

Dude you f--king crack me up. That was good!

Poucolouco
05-15-09, 22:32
So where is the clitoris?
Everything was somewhat in order until I got to Manaus. How did the vagina get so far astray from the anus? The clit must be either Niteroi or Belem. :)

Marcoooo
05-15-09, 23:23
Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.

I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.

Cheers

JohnnyBraz
05-16-09, 10:18
Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.

I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.

Cheersmelt (leblon)

nuth (barra da tijua)

zero zero (gavea)

Cartaa
05-16-09, 18:47
Can Anyone Recommend A Hotel In Rio That Is In A Good Safe Area That Is Not Pricey? I Am Going To Rio For The First Time And Have No Clue Where To Stay. I Want To Be Able To Walk To The Beach And Clubs. Going For Two Weeks In August.

Thanks Randy

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Hi Cartaa,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Marcop 12
05-16-09, 20:29
melt (leblon)

nuth (barra da tijua)

zero zero (gavea)
Club 69 (ipanema - 2 blocks from General Osorio)
Baronnetti (praca 1 Ipanema)
Cyrstal Lounge (next door barronetti)
Sky Lounge (Lagoa)
Dolce Vitta (next door Balcony Bar Copacabana)

To name a few extra regular clubs that ive frequented recently in addition to the above clubs mentioned

Pipe Layer99
05-17-09, 01:03
Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.

I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.

Cheers

Symbol is a nice club also. Has a ground level party area, a separate bar section to the right, and a large upstairs party area. Great for meeting civilians (means normal girls - not GdPs)!
The club is in Centro near the Carioca metro station.
They also have a web site. You can google it.
PL99

Ryjerrob
05-17-09, 01:17
Can someone please recommend some good regular clubs in Rio? Not to far out like Viashow or Pyramide, but closer to Zona Sul/Centro/Botafogo.

I've seen some reports before mentioning some forro (or similar) clubs in Lapa and something in Botafogo, but I can't find them now.

Cheers

check out www.nightrio.com

Marcoooo
05-17-09, 02:01
Thanks!

Seems there is quite a bit going on!

Poucolouco
05-17-09, 14:03
Can Anyone Recommend A Hotel In Rio That Is In A Good Safe Area That Is Not Pricey? I Am Going To Rio For The First Time And Have No Clue Where To Stay. I Want To Be Able To Walk To The Beach And Clubs. Going For Two Weeks In August.
Thanks Randy



Try this site for hotels: http://www.ipanema.com/hotel/index.php

Hughdad
05-17-09, 18:55
Can anyone recommend a sex tour guide?

I need someone who knows their way around Rio's red light district.

Or at least someone who speaks portuguese and knows how to find the things I like.

I'm not into the vanilla action (BJ, FS), thus the reports on this site don't help much.

I'm into the BDSM & Fetish & Orgy scene. (e. G. Wild crazy sex).Lumo speaks English, is a GDP that is into fetish and domination. She might be a good jumping off point for you:

http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=179&n=Luma+Toledo

Pelongera
05-18-09, 05:37
Lumo speaks English, is a GDP that is into fetish and domination. She might be a good jumping off point for you:

http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=179&n=Luma+ToledoVery promising. Did you do her? Do you know her rates?

MrLowDown
05-18-09, 13:02
This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.

VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.

Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!

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Remy Man
05-18-09, 20:01
Can anyone recommend a sex tour guide?

I need someone who knows their way around Rio's red light district.

Or at least someone who speaks portuguese and knows how to find the things I like.

I'm not into the vanilla action (BJ, FS), thus the reports on this site don't help much.

I'm into the BDSM & Fetish & Orgy scene. (e. G. Wild crazy sex).Check with Don or Ken at amerioca.net.

They provide services.

Acenva
05-18-09, 22:20
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.



VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.

Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!

Congrats.. Hope to see you in The V!!! Have fun I will be back next month.

Ace

Exec Talent
05-19-09, 17:01
L'uomo has a discount of R$30 off the entrance if you take a girl (that is the asterisk on their poster) before 7:00. If you do not take a girl, no discount. Since before there was a R$10 discount if you took a girl, the net actually is R$20.

Last night there were a number of new girls, several with beautiful faces. Cannot comment on performances, but definitely some real lookers.

Koolkid
05-19-09, 22:58
Arrived on my first visit to Brazil early this morning.
Had a lovely view of Rio all lit up as we flew in, all the
lights on the ground went on for miles.

Got settled into my apartment and thought I would do some
grocery shopping. Shopping has never been so enjoyable, big
bunda everywhere. My heart was beating out my chest.

It was a nice day so decided to hit the beach. I was walking
past the Othlon palace but right next to the waves and a brazilian
guy pulled me and started walking and talking with me. It was all about
getting me into his bar up there and hooking me up with some garottas.

I've read the reports about these guys so I said yeah maybe later. I walked the legnth
of the beach and headed back and walked up to the street just before Othlon, and guess what,
another guy stops me. Same tactics as the other, and then suddenly theres shouting and
the guy from before comes running up shouting in porto, Anyway 2 and 2 together, he's saying
I saw this gringo 1st blah blah.

I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?

Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol

Buscemi
05-20-09, 00:15
I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?

Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled. LOLJust be firm with these touts, you do not need their services and are "siteseeing", In Copa, go a few feet to the left of Othon and sit in EL Moreno's section. His tent says "Moreno", he speaks English and is very honest, he works with his wife and daughter and has been in Posto 5 in this spot for over 20 years. Rent a chair, and buy beer from this guy, and he will never rip you off. Stay away from the other scumbags!

Make sure you check out the scene in Posto 9 in Ipanema on a Saturday or Sunday, wear a loose pair of trunks, you are gonna have wood from the garotas. 95% of them are NON Pro, but in front of Caesar Park Hotel there are a handful of semi pros looking for action. Much nicer scene than Othon, you have normal cariocas and no touts.

Poucolouco
05-20-09, 00:37
Arrived on my first visit to Brazil early this morning.
Had a lovely view of Rio all lit up as we flew in, all the
lights on the ground went on for miles.

Got settled into my apartment and thought I would do some
grocery shopping. Shopping has never been so enjoyable, big
bunda everywhere. My heart was beating out my chest.

It was a nice day so decided to hit the beach. I was walking
past the Othlon palace but right next to the waves and a brazilian
guy pulled me and started walking and talking with me. It was all about
getting me into his bar up there and hooking me up with some garottas.

I've read the reports about these guys so I said yeah maybe later. I walked the legnth
of the beach and headed back and walked up to the street just before Othlon, and guess what,
another guy stops me. Same tactics as the other, and then suddenly theres shouting and
the guy from before comes running up shouting in porto, Anyway 2 and 2 together, he's saying
I saw this gringo 1st blah blah.

I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?

Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol

Two words you need to learn right away. Não Obrigado. (No thanks.) Smile, wave your hand in a back and forth movement and move on.

Carrib
05-20-09, 01:26
I just got back....I also met this guy in front of Help who was offering everything from drugs to cheap 50 real pussy, dude spoke perfect english and said he was from Miami. He looked shady to say the least so I ignored him, he eventually got the message and went away...I will muster a full report soon but here are some quick observations

GDP talent has gone down, but Brazil is STILL Brazil.

I never went inside Help but the talent outside was nothing to write home about. I was able to pull a nice hottie in front of Help for 150 reals for the rest of the night (2:30AM-8:00AM)

I got my first CBJ in Rio..


I was played by a 4x4 girl who promised to meet me and didnt, but my wingman got lucky and got a MC girl for free for the rest of the trip. She even paid the 150 real fine herself!! And was acting like a GF who wouldnt get naked in front of me even thoug I watched her ass butt naked getting eaten out during a MC show..go figure .LOL!!

4x4 still is the place to find the largest bundas if that is your thing (its mine!), however, MC still has good talent, but overall quality has gone down.

then there was Amanda from MC..wow..more to come..

Member #4156
05-20-09, 02:21
My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.

So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?

Flexinbk
05-20-09, 02:40
I used an alias with both men but they now recognise me, and all I want to do is sit down
on the beach with these garottas and be left alone instead of being fleeced! Any advice?


Don't let them get close, if you spot them first, give them the "Mutombo" finger wag. btw what's giving you away as a tourist, is it clothes, mannerisms, etc?

Carrib
05-20-09, 03:22
My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.

So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?


I was actually going to shut it down for the night but I decided to respond to your post...How is it going man?

Well, knowing your history from previous posts, you will LOVE this other bahiana who works there..sorry I forgot her name, big bunda, allows anal and can deep throat....but she absolutely would NOT allow any pics...in fact most of the girls at MC refused pics. all I heard Internetch! internetch!! Gee thnks fellas for ruining our memories..

A brief homage to Amanda..(she has a a fairy tatoo shooting an arrow on her back) This trip I made it to MC three times despite my criticisms, the first night, the new mgr did not recognize me so he gave me a tour, but I did not like the talent so I walked out. I went back the next night and sessioned with the dark skinned bahiana, she was great but I got pissed when she wouldnt let me take pics, I also saw laura (big lips) who has been working there 6 yrs she gave me this snickering look. She rememebered me from way back and complained why I have never taken her. I brought her a drink and promised I would session with her next time if she put those grande labias to work on meu pao!!. She promised she would rock my world. I went back the next day, she also refused pics but she put those lips to work, it was a very good session but a bit professional, I asked her to call me the next day, she did not--so on to the next, it was after the session, I saw amanda...she is about 5-6 big bunda, silicone breasts...I was spent so I said I would return the next day to session with her, besides it was late and my tab was nearing 350 reals..decided to call it a night after flirlting with her.

I went to MC on the next day right after it opened..I was the only male in the boite several GDPs gave me come hither looks but I ignored them, I went to the cool tv room and then I saw Amanda walk in,I quickly snatched her up

She came out with this see through loungerie robe with lined with fur...and nothing under..WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW instant wood.!! I had girls with bigger bundas but hers was both big and soft...it was like holding two sof but firm pillows in your hand..he skin is flawless except for two tatoos, very soft and her pussy is amazingly tight for a 24 yr old GDP with a 7 year old. She was sensual, gave great head and matched me stroke for stroke...then told me too bad I waited so long (two visits) to pick her ouch!...I am the type of monger who loves new pussy, I see brazil as a ice cream shop where u can choose a new flavor each day,..I rarely repeat, but I am dreaming of going back to session with amanda...it was that good..

I was also supposed to try out Luma Toledo, but brazil being brazil I did not have the time..if anyone have a face pic and recent experiences..pls post.

Koolkid
05-20-09, 14:45
Decided to stay in last night as I feeling pretty tired
from the flight. Had a quick look down at MP but it was quite
empty, so I headed back and decided to try an internet site.

So I ended up using hotside, I tried to call luciana below but she hung
as she didn't understand me.

http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=721

So I called Paola and I'm glad I did;

http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=626

She passed her phone to her friend who spoke abit of english and she
started negotiations off at 350? But I stood my ground at 200 for 2 hours.

She was complteta and very sensual with everything. She screamed the house
down when she took it in the ass. She's got a beautiful smile with cute dimples.

This was no bait and switch, but she has put on afew pounds since those pictures
were taken. I managed to get one pic of her as she was leaving which I will post later.

Carrib
05-21-09, 05:57
I never went into Help but I did hang outside for two nights to watch the action, and man...the GDPs were gruesome save for a few 8s here and there. I saw Kelly formely of Monte Carlo and ms porno star, I called her over and asked how much she charged..FOUR HUNDRED REALS, TLN? I inquired, I was told matter of factly..for ONE HOUR..I busted out laughing and waved her away. She did not appreciate it and walked away salty. Thankfully, I did not witness any mongers accepting that nonsense.

On one night I eyed this cute receptionist, I chatted her up and asked how much, I think she said 300 reals for a few hours, I said hell no offered R200 for TLN she said no..wingman and I hung out for a bit and went back to the apt, at 2:30am we returned and she was still there with no takers..negotiation started once again, now at 2:30 I said 150 reals until 8am, after some haggling, she insisted that we had to take her no so cute harpie friend for 120 reals (wingman took the fall)..so 270 total for a festinah right? so we thought..we got to the apt and stories began to change as harpie was none too pleased when she realized that she was getting less. I was getting pissed, and I almost killed the deal until we decided to scrap the festina and go until 8am in our rooms. That is when I got my first CBJ in RIo, I was pissed!! she pleaded and tried to get me to understand, i was loosing my hardon, finally I decided to make the best of it and started to fuck. She was surprisingly passionate once we started, great bunda and a real tight pussy--it was a pleasant surprise after all that hassle. In the morning, the harpie comes knocking and wanted to leave, she didnt but the harpie insisted so I paid and walked them out..(outside of help we were dressed in short and tshirts, but once the GDPs saw the freaking apt (two level penthouse), they wanted to change the deal..fuck me!)

I also met another friend, she used to charge top dollar and although she still looks good, the bunda is not as firm after four years. She told me that a monger from Ohio will help her get a visa, she plans to stay with him awhile, then she will dump him, she is also a hardcore lesbian now and invited me to a lesbian club but I declined, her friends were ugly as hell!! I asked her if she would let me fuck her if we met in Ohio and she said yes..so guys beware and be warned..did I say she was hardcore?

JohnnyBraz
05-21-09, 06:18
I never went into Help but I did hang outside for two nights to watch the action, and man...the GDPs were gruesome save for a few 8s here and there. I saw Kelly formely of Monte Carlo and ms porno star, I called her over and asked how much she charged..FOUR HUNDRED REALS, TLN? I inquired, I was told matter of factly..for ONE HOUR..I busted out laughing and waved her away. She did not appreciate it and walked away salty. Thankfully, I did not witness any mongers accepting that nonsense.

On one night I eyed this cute receptionist, I chatted her up and asked how much, I think she said 300 reals for a few hours, I said hell no offered R200 for TLN she said no..wingman and I hung out for a bit and went back to the apt, at 2:30am we returned and she was still there with no takers..negotiation started once again, now at 2:30 I said 150 reals until 8am, after some haggling, she insisted that we had to take her no so cute harpie friend for 120 reals (wingman took the fall)..so 270 total for a festinah right? so we thought..we got to the apt and stories began to change as harpie was none too pleased when she realized that she was getting less. I was getting pissed, and I almost killed the deal until we decided to scrap the festina and go until 8am in our rooms. That is when I got my first CBJ in RIo, I was pissed!! she pleaded and tried to get me to understand, i was loosing my hardon, finally I decided to make the best of it and started to fuck. She was surprisingly passionate once we started, great bunda and a real tight pussy--it was a pleasant surprise after all that hassle. In the morning, the harpie comes knocking and wanted to leave, she didnt but the harpie insisted so I paid and walked them out..(outside of help we were dressed in short and tshirts, but once the GDPs saw the freaking apt (two level penthouse), they wanted to change the deal..fuck me!)

I also met another friend, she used to charge top dollar and although she still looks good, the bunda is not as firm after four years. She told me that a monger from Ohio will help her get a visa, she plans to stay with him awhile, then she will dump him, she is also a hardcore lesbian now and invited me to a lesbian club but I declined, her friends were ugly as hell!! I asked her if she would let me fuck her if we met in Ohio and she said yes..so guys beware and be warned..did I say she was hardcore?2 level penthouse, any photo's off apartment? Who did you rent it from? At what price? Help and ta and mp is a waste off time nowadays. The garotas are ordinary looking, too many favela girls have took over and sadly mongers are paying them top dollar. so the few nice ones are asking for 400+ reals.. Nothing beats the termas.

Mr Enternational
05-21-09, 09:34
Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol
Brother that will never pass. Especially when in centro. At least it hasn't passed for me after all these years.

Mangera
05-21-09, 12:51
Brother that will never pass. Especially when in centro. At least it hasn't passed for me after all these years.
I totally agree with you about No Centro. I can just sit or stand around while drinking a suco and watching all of the nice variations of ass waliking up and down the streets in this area.

I have made it a point to hang around this area more often and make more of an effort to hit on the garotas in this location. Speaking the language is a must, and I feel confident enough in the using my portuguese to start being more agressive in downtown Rio.

Rua Visconde de Piraja in Ipanema has some incredible looking women as well in the morning/late afternoon waliking up and down when going/comming from work. Many of these non gdp's have sugar daddy's. Different breed than copa girls. But its a different challenge if you are up to it.

Jan 156
05-21-09, 15:54
I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass
Brother that will never pass.

I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.

When I first came to Rio I couldn't walk in flip flops cos I'd trip over the cracks, the bl**dy uneven pavements. Probably enjoying the scenery the same as you. I got quite a few bloody toes. I think I must walk differently now as the flip flops are an extension of my feet. Still wear trainers at night unless it's just local slumming though.

Nice to know someone is enjoying the scenery :D

Allforrio
05-22-09, 01:28
I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.

When I first came to Rio I couldn't walk in flip flops cos I'd trip over the cracks, the bl**dy uneven pavements. Probably enjoying the scenery the same as you. I got quite a few bloody toes. I think I must walk differently now as the flip flops are an extension of my feet. Still wear trainers at night unless it's just local slumming though.

Nice to know someone is enjoying the scenery :DSpeaking of tripping my first trip I was looking at the girls and a vendor had his CDs DVDs etc. Laying on th ground and I walked right over them and before I knew it all I felt and heard was crunch crunch crunch.

Being black I think I turned red

Funny

Acenva
05-22-09, 13:14
Anyway I am totally blown away by the bodies on brazilian women. I'm tripping over pavements
on NS because I'm looking around at every women. I'm sure it will pass once I get settled...lol

You will never stop tripping over pavement. Get use to it also get a Chiropractor to fix your neck from snapping at all the bunda... Have fun.. I enjoy getting up in the mornings and going to central to the office buildings and just watching it go by then get into BA85 around 10ish then over to the private places where business professionals slide by on their way home. It is just so relaxing watching bunda all day....

Here is a bunda worth following... sorry about the quality of photo it was taken by cell phone. enjoy

Hobbying
05-22-09, 13:53
I've never been to Rio and am considering a last minute detour there instead of SP where I've been 10+ times. I've read through a few pages here and it seems like the top club in Rio is Help but the talent has gone way down? Any other noteworthy clubs similar to Cafe Photo or Bomboa where you can see 9's and 10's or clinicas like Palms in SP? I have met alot of girls from Rio who go to SP just to work because they make more money and can ask for more. So then alot of the good talent went to SP? No point in me heading to Rio if alot of the hot Rio garotas are in SP but SP is starting to get boring.

Chris H
05-22-09, 15:14
Here is a bunda they may make u trip over the sand!!! gotta LOVE IT!!

Sperto
05-22-09, 16:43
I hope it passes before you go to VM. I'm not comparing the women, but the 'pavements' there have shit in the cracks and it can take ages to clean out your trainers.
Sometimes it's not only the pavements in VM that have shit in their cracks.
Then you might have to clean something else than your trainers. :(

Jan 156
05-22-09, 21:11
Sometimes it's not only the pavements in VM that have shit in their cracks.
Then you might have to clean something else than your trainers. :(

I always try to use one hand for eating and one hand for . . .

Ohp1972
05-22-09, 21:34
Here is a bunda they may make u trip over the sand!!! gotta LOVE IT!!
DAMN Chris, Now that ASS is something SERIOUS!!! SH*T!!!!

Jamaicanceo
05-22-09, 21:42
After spending a wonderful night with my GFE, we had wonderful sex the next morning. I did my job on her, and she hit the shower first. My turn in the bathroom, and I sat on the throne to rid myself of Brazilian BBQ from the day before. When I hit the magic button to flush my throne, nothing happened. Then, I realized all the water is off. I called the guy who rented me the apartment thinging the owner didn't pay his water bill. WTF, water is off all over Rio de Janeiro. Then I hear a helicopter and gunfire. I said that can't be gunfire. I lisen to the news and realize a shootout took place in a local Copa favela, and the Rio water people decides to fix their water system in the middle of the day.

No problem with the shootout, but I can't take a f*&$ shower. My GFE smells great, but I stink. At 11am they say the water will be on at 6pm. It is now 5:30p and I am waiting for water to shower.

Almotu
05-22-09, 22:26
I've never been to Rio and am considering a last minute detour there instead of SP where I've been 10+ times. I've read through a few pages here and it seems like the top club in Rio is Help but the talent has gone way down? Any other noteworthy clubs similar to Cafe Photo or Bomboa where you can see 9's and 10's or clinicas like Palms in SP? I have met alot of girls from Rio who go to SP just to work because they make more money and can ask for more. So then alot of the good talent went to SP? No point in me heading to Rio if alot of the hot Rio garotas are in SP but SP is starting to get boring.If you never been to Rio, you should definitely make the detour. The only thing that is more expensive in Rio than in Sao Paulo is the price of the hotel room but if you rent an apartment from any number of reputable 'brokers' then it will cost less than Sao Paulo. The 'action' is definitely less expensive than Sao Paulo and the best thing about Rio is probably the Termas. I have not yet been to Eu y Elas in Sao Paulo so I can't make the comparison but 4x4, Monte Carlo, Solarium & L'uomo should be experienced in the life of any monger!

Cartaa
05-22-09, 22:53
Anyone going to Rio in August that would be willing to show me some of the good clubs. Only going for a couple of weeks. Rio seem so large that I am sure it would take some time to find the clubs. I have been to many countries but never to Brazil.

Thanks Randy

Dollars
05-23-09, 02:46
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]This is my 2nd day in Rio and I wanted to try some of the "off the beaten path" spots that Sperto and other Brazil experts have been discussing for years. With it being Sunday, my options were slim but I was feeling rather brave so I ended up catching a cab to Villa Mimosa alone for my first visit.

VM is very filthy as hell as others have pointed out but to my surprise as I walked through those clubs and alleys I found about quite a few 7's, 8's and maybe a few 9's. I was surprised as hell. My personal opinion about the quality of the Girls at VM is that 50% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6's or below). 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 20% are hot (8's & above). I ended up trying two of the hot ones. Rooms were bad, no good place to wash up Total Damage for the girls and several beers was about 65 reals. I left there smiling and wondering why in 10 + trips I had never visited the spot.

Got back to Copa, and ran into a friend that wanted to go to Help. Walked inside and had never seen this place with such low talent. I would say that on this night 40% of the girls are not doable at all for my standards (6s and belwo), 30% are doable (6's & 7's). 10% are hot (8's & above). Help appears to have less turnover than a Brroklyn McDonald's. I'm seeing the same girls I've seen for the last 10 trips in the same exact places. A friend of mine mentioned that Help is now so predicatable that he could be blind folded and still tell you were each GDP is standing. I chatted with an 8 and negotiated a R250 rate for TLN. Then I started thinking to myslef ". Hold on Lowdown. This is almost the same girl you smashed at VM for R28" Upon that realization, I just couldn't go through with it. I apologized to the girl, told her that I was beginning feel sick and that maybe I would see her tomorrow. I bought here a drink to make amends and then left. I don't think I'll ever return. I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!

Congrats.. Hope to see you in The V!!! Have fun I will be back next month.

AceBingo! Now you see what some of us Rio regulars have been doing for the past 7 years. HELPIE garotas are not worth it. I stumbled on a guy at 4x4 on Monday that paid $R500 TLN for a Helpie girl. I took him to VM and he vowed never to pay a freaking chick at Help again. Told him not to worry since Help will be closing Nov

Welcome to Rio.

Dollars
05-23-09, 02:50
My man Carrib. Long time!! Good to see you back.

So Amanda in MC is what's up huh?Same here. I assume this is the same "Caribman" from the UMV days. If so, long time bro. This is X-Man from UMV.

I just got back from Rio on Wednesday. Did MC & L'uomo on Sunday and 4x4 on Mon & Tues.

Did you say Kelly from MC? As in Kelly Matuso with the tatoo on her lower waist (white with blond hair)

Koolkid
05-23-09, 11:29
After spending a wonderful night with my GFE, we had wonderful sex the next morning. I did my job on her, and she hit the shower first. My turn in the bathroom, and I sat on the throne to rid myself of Brazilian BBQ from the day before. When I hit the magic button to flush my thrown, nothing happened. Then, I realized all the water is off. I called the guy who rented me the apartment thingking the owner didn't pay his water bill. WTF, water is off all over Rio de Janeiro. Then I hear a helicopter and gunfire. I said that can't be gunfire. I lisen to the news and realize a shootout took place in a local Copa favela, and the Rio water people decides to fix their water system.

No problem with the shootout, but I can't take a f*&$ shower. My GFE smells great, but I stink. At 11am they say the water will be on at 6pm. It is now 5:30p and I am waiting for water to shower.


My apartment is right next to what was happening. It was a sight to see. The helicopters were flying in and out of the blocks and circling the favela letting of multiple rounds. Everyone was in doorways or hanging out of their windows watching. Amazing to see for a first timer in Rio. Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.

KK

Sperto
05-23-09, 12:29
Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.
Poor girls who worked the R$ 1/minute casas. Imagine how they felt after 15 customers and no water to wash their periquitas.

Koolkid
05-23-09, 12:46
Made my first visit to a terma on thursday and went in heads
first and went to 4x4. All I can say is WOW. For anyone planning
to vist Rio, this terma is a must.

I love the whole set up they have in there. You can seriously loose track of time
when you are in there. I sessioned before 5pm and the enterance was waived.

I picked a beautiful lady, but have forgotten her name.I love the way
you can make out with the girls and not even have to take them for a session.

I took a cabin for an hour. I found the cabin abit small
and we both used the wall with our feet on occasions. Thanks to Ken for showing me
how to get to this place. This man knows all the ladies working there and they all
come up and kiss hime and say hello. He works the room well!

We also looked at BA85. I like the seedy feel to it, it was quite busy when we were there
lots of brazillian guys. So I'm worried about that and also my lack of porto. But I'm gonna
go back on monday earlier in the morning, and then later onto 4x4.

Yesterday we looked at some of the smaller Casas de Massagem in centro. The first 2 were ok, but the
3rd had the best amount of young girls with curves. This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think. All the girls come out and introduce themselves indivdually, some
with great curves. I chose Bruna. Great body and bunda with large natural breasts. I paid 110 for an hour
in the suite. I took a shower and she came in wearing a red corset type all in one thong thing with high heels.
Anyway we got down to it. She gave one of the best blow jobs I have probably had. Her sex skills are A+. Deep throat, spits all over the dick, balls ass the lot! She starts to ride me and nearly snaps my dick. I last about 10 mins! So shes back down there, then abit of doggy, 10 minutes more blowing it ends with a happy ending on her chin. She has the skills of porn star for sure so I rate her an A++.

She reminded me off Sara Jay
I think she would be up for anal but I was just too wacked.

But because of my lack of porto there was no
talking and I felt her quite cold at the end no smiling or eye contact.

I took a card at reception with the email address and phone numbers on it so heres the web page.

Webpagehttp://belprazer.com/

Address http://www.apontador.com.br/local/rj/rio_de_janeiro/night_clubs/342EBY78/casa_de_massagens_bel_prazer.html

Centro is a mad busy place, but once you get your bearings its ok. I felt safe walking around there. I had afew looks from people but that was it!

Had a night in last night to re-charge the batteries and hopefully meeting a school teacher later for a day on
the beach, maybe luomo tonight!

Sperto
05-23-09, 13:54
This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think.
Great report.
Belprazer is in sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185.

They have a very nice selection. Unfortunately it's almost to popular as you might have to wait some time for a vacant cabin. I actually went there a few times, chose a girl and left after been waiting to long for a vacant cabin.

P.S Bruna looks very hot. :P

Hughdad
05-23-09, 15:08
Yesterday we looked at some of the smaller Casas de Massagem in centro. The first 2 were ok, but the 3rd had the best amount of young girls with curves. This place is on Branco had shops underneath and then you go to a lift and go to the 22nd floor I think. All the girls come out and introduce themselves indivdually, some with great curves.

Webpagehttp://belprazer.com/

Address http://www.apontador.com.br/local/rj/rio_de_janeiro/night_clubs/342EBY78/casa_de_massagens_bel_prazer.htmlThanks for the great report. What time did you go to Belpazer? I assume before noon is best. Total damage for GDP and cabine was R$110?

Koolkid
05-23-09, 15:45
Great report.
Belprazer is in sala 2114, Av Rio Branco 185.

They have a very nice selection. Unfortunately it's almost to popular as you might have to wait some time for a vacant cabin. I actually went there a few times, chose a girl and left after been waiting to long for a vacant cabin.

P.S Bruna looks very hot. :P

Yes there was a steady flow of men entering when I was there. They also
need to oil up the hinges on all the doors as they make a racket evertime the
girls go in and out, which every 10 seconds when I was there lol

American Warrior
05-23-09, 19:17
I'm a Lowdown Villa Mimosa Man now!

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There is another convert to my area of town. Did you have to write such a glowing report? You are encouraging others to make that voyage. Really Mr. Low Down meant to say it is a run down stinky place with only 5s. Please correct your report MrLow Down, lol.

Hughdad
05-23-09, 22:27
Are the bars open in the early afternoon. Or is this strictly an evening place? I'm sure it gets busier at night. But am thinking about venturing a trip while it is still light out. I am new to Centro but wanting to explore. I searched the forums and could not find the hours that VM is open.

Thanks in advance.

Sperto
05-23-09, 23:20
Watch out for a UFO in Rio tonight.

Mr Enternational
05-24-09, 03:11
My apartment is right next to what was happening. It was a sight to see. The helicopters were flying in and out of the blocks and circling the favela letting of multiple rounds. Everyone was in doorways or hanging out of their windows watching. Amazing to see for a first timer in Rio. Yes my water was out all day also, as was many of the cheaper termas we hit in centro.
KK

I asked my girlfriend about that water thing that happened yesterday. Now she wants to know where I am getting my info from because it wasn't in the paper or the internet. But she said it was stopped from the water treatment plant that supplies everything.
Then that helicopter deal. She said that two gangsters died from exchanging gunfire with the cops. They wrapped them in plastic for the helicopters to take them to the hospital. What they really ended up dying from was being wrapped in the plastic and not from getting shot. I guess they suffocated or something.

como sabe oq aconteceu com a agua? nao saiu no jornal e nem na internet
mrenternational says:
poxa. acha que nao sei nada do meu pais?
ॐ says:
eu estou falando que nao saiu nada nos jornais sobre isso entao como sabe
mrenternational:
e eu estou falando que vc acha que eu nao sei nada do que acontece no rio?
ॐ says :
eu quero saber como? pergunta pra quem de deu a informação. deve *** sido outra namorada sua do brasil. namorada burra, ainda. fala, como vc saoube
mrenternational says:
o que aconteceu mulher?
ॐ says:
houve um tratamento d'agua no rio guandu. oq abastece tudo
mrenternational says:
ta. mas o que aconteceu na favela?
ॐ says:
favela nao tem agua nunca pq é encanação ilegal. eles nao pagam agua.
mrenternational says:
nao. mas ontem foi alguma coisa com policia
ॐ says:
aaa. morreram dois bandidos baleados em uma troca de tiro com a policia. ai os policias tiveram que levar os dois bandidos pelo helicopt . so que a policia enrrolou o bandido em um plastico como se estivesse morto. mas morreram por causa disso
ॐ says:
baby tem um disco voador voando lá em copa agora rs. de 7 metrso
mrenternational says:
eu sei. rs
ॐ says:
ah sabe é. vc esta sabendo coisas demais do brasil, que quem nao mora aqui

JohnnyBraz
05-24-09, 03:54
I asked my girlfriend about that water thing that happened yesterday. Now she wants to know where I am getting my info from because it wasn't in the paper or the internet.Tell her you have friends in Rio at present and e-mailed or phoned you.

Member #4156
05-24-09, 14:00
I just got back....I also met this guy in front of Help who was offering everything from drugs to cheap 50 real pussy, dude spoke perfect english and said he was from Miami. He looked shady to say the least so I ignored him, he eventually got the message and went away...I will muster a full report soon but here are some quick observations

GDP talent has gone down, but Brazil is STILL Brazil.


...then there was Amanda from MC..wow..more to come..
Just got in last night. Went to MC but left after 15 minutes. Wasn't feeling the talent. If circumstances are the same as it was years ago, Solarium and MC share the same management and they're half staffed on Saturdays. Didn't see any Bahiana nor an Amanda, DAMN! I'll check back on a Tues or something.

Carrib
05-25-09, 02:45
actually, from what I've heard, they are no longer owned by the same owner. Happy Hunting and better luck next time

Poucolouco
05-25-09, 03:07
actually, from what I've heard, they are no longer owned by the same owner. Happy Hunting and better luck next time

What is your source for this? AFIK it is still the same management for both clubs.

Brunomassi
05-25-09, 03:20
Any place with a similar setup to Copacabana, but without all the American shines?

Exec Talent
05-25-09, 03:46
What is your source for this? AFIK it is still the same management for both clubs.
Actually, they split several years ago. I ran into one of the former MC owners about a month ago. He now is into gas stations.

DreamCarnarvon
05-25-09, 14:04
Centro is a mad busy place, but once you get your bearings its ok. I felt safe walking around there. I had afew looks from people but that was it! Hey Kid if you don't mind me asking, were the people "looked" at you b/c you stood out or b/c you were visiting 4X4 and BA85?

I took my first trip to Centro Sunday. And the place was dead as a ghost town. Hardly anyone around. But I felt very safe walking alone among the many small streets. Walked around trying to locate some of the establishments. Found BA85 and 4X4 and took pics of the buildings. Then took ferry to Niteori (sp? ). The ride was short but the view was magnificent. I recommend it for anyone. Looking forward to going to Centro later today.

DD

DreamCarnarvon
05-25-09, 14:17
For those who took the Metro to VM I have a little question.

Do I buy a ticket straight for Sao Cristovao from the station of origin or do I buy a ticket for estacio and then at estacio station buy another ticket for Sao Cristovao?

I am planning to visit VM tomorrow.

DD

Avsmith01
05-25-09, 14:30
When is Help closing?

That is all I want to know.

Sperto
05-25-09, 21:35
For those who took the Metro to VM I have a little question.
Do I buy a ticket straight for Sao Cristovao from the station of origin or do I buy a ticket for estacio and then at estacio station buy another ticket for Sao Cristovao?
One ticket.

Carrib
05-25-09, 23:25
i have been neglecting some duties here as i am still going thru rio withdrawal and then came the holiday weekend. now to some of your questions.

we arrived in rio on the mia-gig leg and cleared customs relatively without hassle. i decided to take the 7 real bus--this is highly recommended since a taxi now costs 40-45 real and was quoted as much as 70 real for a private driver. for those of you who dont know, there is a bus stand right after u clear customs--or go outside and the bus is right there.

i initially contacted ken but our schedules kept changing so i decided to reserve a double suite at the princess copacabana --wingman insisted he wanted an apt on atlantica so i left it up to him..huge mistake. he contacted john thompson (riorentals4less) and reserved a 2 bedroom beachfront apt for $165 dollars (down from $175 he wanted). i called him once we landed but he became restless waiting for the bus, so he in turn had us wait at terrazo atlantica restaurant in front of help and it went downhill from there...john explained to us that the apt we reserved was no longer avail and one of the rooms had no air (wtf!) but he has another apt around the corner..apt he showed us was crap so we declined it..he showed us another apt in the same building (much better) but insisted that we would have to leave at 10am on our last day!?!..so screw that..he proceeded to waste our time showing us one crappy apt after another until i got fed up at 3pm (rem the plane landed at 8:30am)..we went to bobby and in 30-40 mins we were in a three bedroom duplex for 500 reals a night..i have stayed in the building before and it has some real nice apts. it was a bit much but we were desperate and later i found that the actual price of the three bedroom is 450 reals a night. we used the third room for the festinahs. :)

apt is located in av atlantica 3916 (posto six), top floor penthouse with balcony overlooking atlantica, its a two level duplex with three bedroom, one of the bedrooms air didnt work as well and the furnishing were a bit worn to call it superluxury but it did look good..sorry no pics.

the apt needed to be cleaned up so we went to lunch and left our bags with bobby, he also gave us free cellphones and offered free laundry. after finally getting settled, we walked down to mp and there were slim pickings..i ran into dani..old gdp from wayyy back (still look decent), she offered a threesome with a very pretty girl but i wanted to checkout mc, told them that we would be back a bit..went to mc, new mgr did not recognize me...so i acted like i was new and got the tour...went upstairs and took a peek..i was not impressed and away we went. we called dani but the other cute girl had left, so she offered to take both of us on...and indeed she did..she proceeded to take the dickdown for the next three hours for 200 reals. dani's body still looks good but not as tight as it once was. she also told me that my porto sucks...it does.lol.


later that night, we decided to check out the action in front of help. ran into kelly the pornstar asking crazy ass prices --just waved her away. there was this very cute girl who later i found was a receptionist, i cant remember her initial offer but it was too much, so i declined. we left help and went back to the apt but at 2:30 am they were still there. now negotiations started again, she was pushing to get her friend some business--her buddy looked like a darn harpie, she muddied the negotiations--we first offered a festinah just with the cutie but she insisted that her friend come after several back and forth offers--we settled on 150 for her and 120 for the harpie a festinah until 8:am right...wrong..

harpie almost killed the deal back at the apt, but we decided to just have one one one session and it was then i received my first cbj in rio...otherwise the session was decent, u can tell she wasnt a pro but the pussy was real tight and she was amazingly passionate. harpie came knocking at 8am, she wanted to stay but harpie insisted..i paid them and took both downstairs to the door..and that was the first day wingman took an l but would rebound quite nicely...day two we went to mc, much better and he gets lucky, lands a gfe who fucks him free for the rest of the trip.

Koolkid
05-26-09, 00:35
Hey Kid if you don't mind me asking, were the people "looked" at you b/c you stood out or b/c you were visiting 4X4 and BA85?

I took my first trip to Centro Sunday. And the place was dead as a ghost town. Hardly anyone around. But I felt very safe walking alone among the many small streets. Walked around trying to locate some of the establishments. Found BA85 and 4X4 and took pics of the buildings. Then took ferry to Niteori (sp? ). The ride was short but the view was magnificent. I recommend it for anyone. Looking forward to going to Centro later today.

DD

Maybe because I had been on the beach in the morning and looked abit red, not really sure though, not because of visiting the termas
But I really enjoyed all the hustle and bustle of the place.

Koolkid
05-26-09, 00:42
i went to luomo on saturday night and there was about 15 white robes to 7 girls at 19.00
very smoky, actually every girl was smoking. there were 2 hot girls in the corner on
1 man and didn't show any interest. so i waited and waited, along came julianna very sensual morena
great body, natural breasts, large nipples. hit the cabine anal, awsome blow job, balls, ass, very happy.
got cell number and email with real name. when i left they tried to pad the bill
with 3 extra drinks. as soon as i complained she phoned the bar and that was taken off straight away! just goes to

show, how they try it on, but still i think it was expensive night.

get back to apartment and want to hit helpee as i have still not been there. so i'm looking
for an atm. i get a phone call from the school teacher and she wants to meet me, so i meet her
outside my apartment (mistake 1). we get a taxi to ipanema walk around and have a drink in an irish bar. very
nice conversation. we head back to copa and have a meal in one of the restaurants, again great time. she
says she wants to cook shrimp for me the next day at her mums house, and she would call me. she is staying 2

blocks from me at a friends because she had a course that day.

we have a nice slow kiss and she heads off. i've had a great night and i still want to experience helpee.(mistake 2, stay home kook kid!) i get round there at 2am and there is not much action in ta, so i go in side. pretty poor inside too. i had my eye on one but the dude from the onionbooty.com website was all over her. so i pick a very dark skinned girl with huge ass. get back to mine and we hit it until around 6am.

i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will

call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.

i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!!

Chris H
05-26-09, 00:59
i went to luomo on saturday night and there was about 15 white robes to 7 girls at 19.00
very smoky, actually every girl was smoking. there were 2 hot girls in the corner on
1 man and didn't show any interest. so i waited and waited, along came julianna very sensual morena
great body, natural breasts, large nipples. hit the cabine anal, awsome blow job, balls, ass, very happy.
got cell number and email with real name. when i left they tried to pad the bill
with 3 extra drinks. as soon as i complained she phoned the bar and that was taken off straight away! just goes to

show, how they try it on, but still i think it was expensive night.

get back to apartment and want to hit helpee as i have still not been there. so i'm looking
for an atm. i get a phone call from the school teacher and she wants to meet me, so i meet her
outside my apartment (mistake 1). we get a taxi to ipanema walk around and have a drink in an irish bar. very
nice conversation. we head back to copa and have a meal in one of the restaurants, again great time. she
says she wants to cook shrimp for me the next day at her mums house, and she would call me. she is staying 2

blocks from me at a friends because she had a course that day.

we have a nice slow kiss and she heads off. i've had a great night and i still want to experience helpee.(mistake 2, stay home kook kid!) i get round there at 2am and there is not much action in ta, so i go in side. pretty poor inside too. i had my eye on one but the dude from the onionbooty.com website was all over her. so i pick a very dark skinned girl with huge ass. get back to mine and we hit it until around 6am.

i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will

call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.

i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!!


great story...lol....but why is that girl showing up at your apt without contacting you 1st....thats not a good sign about what type of lady she is.

chris h

Bravo
05-26-09, 01:57
Great story...LOL....but why is that girl showing up at your apt without contacting you 1st....thats not a good sign about what type of lady she is.

Chris H

Non pros do this all the time, its common for them to just pop up at your place unnanounced.

Voyajer1
05-26-09, 01:58
Just in time for my trip, the prices at 4 X 4 have gone up once again :eek::mad:. Seems like they follow my itinerary very closely. It didn't help that the place was as slow as I've ever seen it (In our favor). Anyways, here is to making up for lost business, local style:
Cabine (40 minutes), R190
Simple suite (1 hour), R210
Super suite (1 hour), R260
King suite (90 minutes), R350
Sultan's suite (90 minutes), R400
The entrance fee remains the same (40 reals). According to the girls, they don't see any of this price increase; the last one was split between them and the house. As usual, you can find what you want and as often as you want in this place :). They just don't build bundas like theirs anywhere else on earth :D.

Mr Enternational
05-26-09, 04:26
i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will

call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day.

i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!!
that is some funny shit since it didn't happen to me. i hope you cursed the doorman out though. they should not be revealing your personal business to people. i would also ***** at whoever rented me the apartment and try to get some money back and/or change places. if you do, remember to make friends with the doorman right off the bat. buy him a pizza or bring him a burger or something. i never have that kind of problem with non-pros because the ones without a car know that they will show up and i'm subject not to be there so it will be a wasted trip. the ones with a car are usually those that will show up at random.

here is one of my old reports about when i got screwed over by a doorman. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573045&postcount=490

DreamCarnarvon
05-26-09, 09:56
One ticket.Thank you Sperto.

Exec Talent
05-26-09, 13:11
Non pros do this all the time, its common for them to just pop up at your place unnanounced.
not just the non-pros. I even have had girls from escort agencies "just show up."

Jan 156
05-26-09, 14:12
i get a phone call at around 10am and realize it's the school teacher! i look to my right and and yes, the helpee
chick is still here! (mistake 3) fuck!! afew more missed calls and i decide to text her saying, i'm tired and will call her in a while. i get a text back quote "why you talk lies, this is terrible, i'm at your reception and they say you are with prostitute" i kicked the helpee out and licked my wounds all day. i missed out on great opertunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man i'm lovin rio!!

rofl. yes, you screwed up, but this has happened to everyone who mixes non-pros with - ahem - prostitutes - lol.

there are two ways to get round it. both of them very 'respectable.'

1. tailor your non-gdp activities towards the end of your stay. that way you can reciprocate some genuine respect, lay off the gdp and enjoy the whole giorlfriend buzz.

2. and this would surely be common sense if you think about it - instead of doggying on your doorstep, go to an establishment provided for the purpose. no, not those gringoholes like help. termas, whether posh ones (perhaps not right outside the siquera campos metro station haha) like 4x4 or filth ones like the centro 1r a minute joints.

methods 1 and 2 can be combined of course, if the need takes you ;) ;)

n.b. "getting caught with a prostitute is a popular telenova (tv soap opera) theme. every girl will know the appropriate histrionics if she can catch you out. the brasilian way is simple when it comes to anything on the side, even if it's another non-gdp: don't get caught! if you don't get caught it is ok as everyone assumes everyone is having something on the side. but the story has to be good enough for your other half to hold her head up when nattering at the hairdressers.

Jamaicanceo
05-26-09, 20:22
I will report more on Shelia later.

Carrib
05-27-09, 02:50
ROFL.
n.b. "Getting caught with a PROSTITUTE is a popular telenova (tv soap opera) theme. Every girl will know the appropriate histrionics if she can catch you out. The Brasilian way is simple when it comes to anything on the side, even if it's another non-gdp: Don't get caught! If you don't get caught it is ok as everyone assumes everyone is having something on the side. But the story has to be good enough for your other half to hold her head up when nattering at the hairdressers.


LOL that is SOO funny and true.. :P

Jamaicanceo
05-27-09, 04:00
When is Help closing?

That is all I want to know.I'm in Rio for the 7th day of 9, and everyone say Help is not closing. There is a crowd at Help now, and I am freshing up to go and get a tall picture of Sangria at the "Help Closing" ISG discussion continues.

By the way, I mistakening said Shelia is at Monte Carlo. She is at Luomo, and I highly recommend her for an aggressive sexual encounter.

Shemp
05-28-09, 05:33
I will report more on Shelia later.Inquiring minds want to know "Is she completa"?

Phunluv
05-28-09, 11:24
I missed out on great opportunity to spend some time with a great girl and her family and maybe have some
great non-pro sex....but man I'm lovin Rio!!Most women are pretty savvy creatures, not easy to fool. And cariocas know what most single male gringo tourists are down there for. So even if you had brought her in to your apartment, she can probably still sniff out the recent presence of a GDP. :)

In addition to trying to recruit the doorman of your apt. building as an ally, you might want to consider using some of the inexpensive love motels for takeout from Help, especially if it's a girl you don't know as some of these Help chicas are thieves/dishonest. But you'll still need a good excuse for not answering her phone calls right away! ;) Maybe say something like some early morning sight-seeing before the main wave of tourists.

Another strategy I recently thought up and may try one day is renting out a bed at a hostel and having the non-pro think that's where you're staying, although such a complicated ruse may not be worth the extra $$ and hassle for most guys/situations.

Milwaukee
05-28-09, 11:35
Could someone post some additional details on VM? When does the action start? How do I get there after I exit the Sao Cristovao station? What are the costs? Past reports are light on details.

Obrigado!

Jan 156
05-28-09, 11:46
you'll still need a good excuse for not answering her phone calls right away! ;)

Bettery's flat

I left it at home

I switch it off when I'm sleeping

I was in the shower

Or the GDP all-time favourite:

Nao creditos!*

And if you don't have any credits on your phone, there's not much poiont switching it on, is there?

When it comes to the doorman phoning up, I've had problems even when I did want to take the call:

The doorman thinks you're out when you're not

The buzzer doesn't work well

You can't hear the buzzer from the other room/balcony/shower/kitchen/over the sound of frying salgados and eminem

You had your headphones on listening to music

Be sure to set up all these excuses early on - eg letting her see you wear headphones, shouting from the other room that you can't hear her, mentioning that the buzzer doesn't work very well. If I have a girl visiting, I always stress that she should phone me just before she arrives so I know to look out for her.

*which is ungrammatical, but good gringo-speak - I personally don't want her thinking I'm so clever I can anticipate her moves like a well-trained puppy - I'm here, I'm 'stupid' when it suits me.

Jan 156
05-28-09, 12:08
cariocas know what most single male gringo tourists are down there for.

True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.

Here's some suggestions:

Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?

One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.

Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.

Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One feels sorry for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)

Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.

Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).

Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.

This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.

Juan Lo
05-28-09, 14:36
True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.

Here's some suggestions:

Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?

One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.

Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.

Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One feels sorry for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)

Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.

Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).

Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.

This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.Its funny that you mention these things to do in Rio without drawing attention to yourself as a monger. I have started doing these things without realizing the advantages of them. And to my surprise. I have gotten more free sex then paying for it. But to hear you mention these things. It makes since. Like you said it may not be for everyone. But it has worked for me So far.

Thanks for the clairfication.

Ryjerrob
05-28-09, 17:19
True, especially in Copa. So it helps to change the way people look at you. I practice by spending time with friends who own shops or work at the Uni.

Here's some suggestions:

Have a strong interest in something that justifies your reason for existing / being in Rio. If you were doing your home job (something you know about and can spin convincingly on presumably) but doing it while you were here, what would you be doing? Researching future work? Looking for job opportunities on behalf of your company? Yourself? How about doing some part-time location work?

One of the first questions you get (if you don't look an utter sleaze) is, Are you here for work or holiday? You can be a bit hesitant and say a bit of both. Keep it very vague. Let them think you are meant to be working even if you have all the time in the world. When you have enough of her for the day and have some urgent business in 4x4 it stops all arguments. Centro is a good place to be 'doing business' - she is unlikely to just bump into you unless she also has a job in Centro.

Take a genuine interest in Brasil for god sake. I am almost allergic to mongers whose sole purpose is mongering - nothing wrong with going to Rio solely for mongering, it's just me. But seriously consider having an experience of a lifetime that doesn't involve pussy. Brasil can change the way you think about the world. Once you genuinely develop a love of the music, the dancing, carnaval, the culture, the geography, the language, the politics - anything else that interests you - you will start to radiate that and be able to undercut gdps whose sole 24hr mental preoccupation is selling their bodies. For the more human gdps or gfe types, it establishes a level of communication that is genuine.

Get to know how mongering is viewed by mainstream (non-mongering) Brasilian society. This enables you to take the same slightly high ground attitude when it suits you. Your gdp feels like an exception and your non-gdp 'knows' your not the sort that would go with a 'prostitute'. (Remember as well, any gdp lower down the food chain than your gdp is a 'prostitute' whereas your gdp is not. One feels sorry for such people. The very term tends to mean, 'the sort of sexually active person we would not associate with' - which is a bit broader than anything as specific as the exchange of money.)

Have an excuse for staying in Copa. Everyone in Copa needs one. Have an area you'd rather stay in (mine's Botafogo) but point out how Copa is more convenient for a foreigner.

Have some 'friends' (imaginary ones will do) that you may have to meet from time to time to hang out with and discuss serious areas of non-mongering stuff (which you will have have set up in advance in her mind using the above pretexts).

Have a non-gringo topic to enthuse about at the start of any conversation. 'The lovely people' or 'the beaches' or 'the weather' is lame. One visit to a museum is enough to set you up for plenty of meets. Especially as her mental level is mostly in the gutter a few centimetres above your natural resting place.

This will not suit everyone, but for those who like this route and have the inclination, you may discover it is a lot of fun! You may almost start to find your time in Rio is even more rewarding than you imagined.

Wow, I don't know where to start, but I agree 100% with what you're saying. For me, doing more of what you suggest has made each trip better than the one previous. I really hope a lot of readers get something out of this.

ryjer

Chris H
05-29-09, 00:36
How hard is it to get the girls from VM to leave work or meet up at the apt after work?


Chris H

Beach Star
05-29-09, 01:14
How hard is it to get the girls from VM to leave work or meet up at the apt after work?


Chris H
man R$200 and you can lead your own posse!!!!

Seriously I have seen that this subject has been well reported on this forum, so you should look at the reports.

Koolkid
05-29-09, 02:46
Took an early trip down to centro with a big hangover early on monday morning.
Got a double grill from bobs burger and wished I hadn't. Wondered around for a while
looking for terma 502, but I was a little early and there was not much happening.

So I entered BA85. I always get a buzz when entering this place as You never know
whats gonna be around the next spiral! And this time there was not alot. The last floor
was closed. So i went to the next one down, and grabbed this black girl with huge thighs and
ass. The cabin was cleanish. 5 min blow job, and she then just bent over and let me hit it!
Alot of the girls have arched there back when I've dogged them here but this filly just got low
and let me go full throttle. I tried for her ass but she said no. I looked at the door and noticed it was
a little open. AND then I notice through the slats in the door, a girl outside just standing there watching and
listneing!! This girls ass was so big and it made such a noise when I hit it! I was just chuckling as this was
fucking crazy!

Finished up and went to 4x4 and got a shower. Entered the bar and felt tired and weak. Had afew vodkas and
perped up abit and along came Haika (spelling pronounce?) Tall girl with big bunda large naturals and green eyes.
Took 40 mins in a cabin and it was awsome! Took 2 pics (my first allowed since being here!) Great blowjob balls

etc. Cow girl and then I brought her to the edge of the bed and and I got on top. She brought out some cream/gel

and rubbed it on her little peanut. She came pretty quick so I wanted to go for the A. She stuck her her finger
in her ass and wriggled it around, but was still worried that I would break her..lol. She took it very well and then the phone wrang so it was a tounge finish.

When I was showering I notice that she was in doggy postion spreading her ass looking at it in the mirror, I said

what the fuck? And she said..You broke my ass! LOL