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Trash Talking
08-01-09, 00:54
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
Is this the girl you are talking about? She goes by the name "Milky" as well. I would be surprised to find out she works in Solarium because she is in Help nightly.
by the name Mariella.
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
Nice drawing.
Is it L'uomo?
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.Nice work but I think you missed the massage room.
Trash Talking
08-01-09, 08:24
First Guess. Yes, it's the plan for L'uomo. If anyone remembers the rooms numbers and any further configuration information I would update the drawing.
Nice drawing.
Is it L'uomo?
Exec Talent
08-01-09, 13:30
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
However, Camilia might object to you calling her kitchen, storage. The Super Suite is right as you enter the private rooms area. There also is an office in that area on the left. In the middle you will find suites 1-3 with showers with suite 3 being on the left. Not that I have ever been there.
Tiradentes
08-01-09, 14:36
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
There is also a small restroom just before you get into the dancing floor.
Good drawing,nevertheless.
Only the suites have a shower in them (max. 2)
Trash Talking, very nice drawing man !
Btw I always been in room A or B, I did not imagine there are so many rooms-cabine.
Poucolouco
08-01-09, 18:35
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.
This is a prime example of reliving the experience. Next trip you can study the furniture arrangements in the cabines. :D
This is a prime example of reliving the experience. Next trip you can study the furniture arrangements in the cabines. :DOr the birthmarks on the ladies.
Any suggestions for a modest, safe place Lapa / Centro? Preferably close to metro? Thanks.
Any suggestions for a modest, safe place Lapa / Centro? Preferably close to metro? Thanks.
The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)
I just got back from Rio recently. If you are not into going to termas, discos or taking the escort route, you may want to try this place. The Balcony Bar is a bar with a patio restaurant out front. While you are eating the girls lined up by the railing or inside the bar itself are all available for take-out. You might even want to invite one over to eat with you or just have a drink.
Once your deal is made, just exit the place turn left and head up the street one block to the Duroverde Hotel. It's on Rua Duvivier and Rua Ronaldo de Carvalho. The girls know where it is I'm sure.
Had a great time with a couple of chicas I grabbed from the bar. Using the Copacabana Palace Hotel as your starting point, face the beach and turn left. Go about a block and a half as if heading for Leme Beach. It is right next to a building that says La dolce Vita, I think. The Balcony Bar is great.
Happy hunting guys. Too bad we can't fuck them all.
The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)
Thanks a lot.
Smooth Slim
08-04-09, 03:59
Made these notes on my trip last year, but just got around to formalizing the drawing.
Does anyone have any information on the room numbers? I also don't have any memory for which rooms have the shower/toilet and which rooms don't.Trash Talking,
That was a very accurate drawing of Luomo's. Now stun us all with impressive floor plans of the cavernous 4X4, or maybe something more realistic like the multi-floored Monte Carlo, Centaurus and Solarium.
Ice
Is Ibis GF friendly?
The Ibis at Tiradentes is good. Few yards from Carioca Metro and adjacent to Lapa. There's a place just slightly cheaper next door. There's a dirt-cheap Brasilian place opposite which you can only book when you arrive.
Do try to keep questions in the relevant thread guys - you've asked this one in Hotels & Apts as well - most guys keep an eye on all the threads of interest, so best not to spam across threads ;)
Is Ibis GF friendly?
Generally, yes.
Is Ibis GF friendly?
In floripa it was with no problem at all, so I guess it will be the same in Rio too.
Hi is the first time I go to Brasil. In Rio I have just found a semi-pro girl-friend spending 2-3 hours with me every day. I will stay with her one week, I like knowing how I have to pay her after one week. Everything is subjective .... but if I want to give her money or to buy clothings how much have I to spend (around)?
Please.
Semi-pro/piranha. If she stays with you, having sex, expecting presents, clothes etc then you might have to do some shopping. Rather than taking her to fancy expensive shops you could bring her to C&A or Santa Clara 33. Spending something like R$ 200 will give her a lot of clothes.
If she insists on receiving money I wouldn't describe her as a semi-pro/piranha, but a w**re. I never had sex with a pro without agreeing about the price beforehand. Paying a pro after have been staying with her for one week might be complicated. Could be costly.
Why not ask her what she expects?
Semi-pro/piranha. If she stays with you, having sex, expecting presents, clothes etc then you might have to do some shopping. Rather than taking her to fancy expensive shops you could bring her to C&A or Santa Clara 33. Spending something like R$ 200 will give her a lot of clothes.
If she insists on receiving money I wouldn't describe her as a semi-pro/piranha, but a w**re. I never had sex with a pro without agreeing about the price beforehand. Paying a pro after have been staying with her for one week might be complicated. Could be costly.
Why not ask her what she expects?Really think sh'e gonna want C & A clothing?
I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?While you are shopping - pick up a calculator for yourself.
I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?As Sperto suggests ask her beforehand and come to an understanding.
I'm sorry but I don't understand, I have to spend R$ 200 in total or R$ 200 every day x 7= R$ 600?
200x7 makes 1400. :)
I meant R$ 200 for the whole time. Just a suggestion.
I don't know your girl or what she want.
The pro's I stay with I pay what we agree on.
The piranhas I try to get as cheap away as possible, preferable a dinner.
The regular girls I don't mind giving a nice present.
As it's your first time in Rio I would suspect that you might have met a pro. She might be expecting something that might surprise you. Ask her.
PhilKrenshaw
08-05-09, 04:12
I just got back from Rio recently. If you are not into going to termas, discos or taking the escort route, you may want to try this place. The Balcony Bar is a bar with a patio restaurant out front. While you are eating the girls lined up by the railing or inside the bar itself are all available for take-out. You might even want to invite one over to eat with you or just have a drink.
Once your deal is made, just exit the place turn left and head up the street one block to the Duroverde Hotel. It's on Rua Duvivier and Rua Ronaldo de Carvalho. The girls know where it is I'm sure.
Had a great time with a couple of chicas I grabbed from the bar. Using the Copacabana Palace Hotel as your starting point, face the beach and turn left. Go about a block and a half as if heading for Leme Beach. It is right next to a building that says La dolce Vita, I think. The Balcony Bar is great.
Happy hunting guys. Too bad we can't fuck them all.What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?
JohnnyBraz
08-05-09, 06:45
What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?Balconey bar is owned by an american man called David Edger. He also runs an apartment rental company. He has done a good job improving balconey over the last 18 months or so. You can find women there anytime of the day or night, quality varies though.
What times are the girls generally available? Only late night or in the afternoons also?
Practically 24hrs, though not at the same intensity. It gets quiet when they try to tidy up (see my sunrise at balcony post some time back) or early morning. Picks up towards early evening. But it's a fallback position for girls as well as punters. Plan b after Help didn't work, for instance. Some don't even have a plan a. Many troll the bars, especially Balcony to Prado Junior till the very early hours.
Practically 24hrs, though not at the same intensity. It gets quiet when they try to tidy up (see my sunrise at balcony post some time back) or early morning. Picks up towards early evening. But it's a fallback position for girls as well as punters. Plan b after Help didn't work, for instance. Some don't even have a plan a. Many troll the bars, especially Balcony to Prado Junior till the very early hours.
When I come back I want to try all the bars around the Prado Junior area. I went to one with a garota and her friend and paid R50+ for 3 drinks. So i wasn't that impressed. Was it you Christopherd who reported on the bars in this area? It would be good to know which are good and bad.
There were a few of you who were looking for an Asian beauty. Found her in Classificados Odia.
http://www.muraldoprazer.com/agatha/
When I come back I want to try all the bars around the Prado Junior area. I went to one with a garota and her friend and paid R50+ for 3 drinks.
I had to read that twice. I thought R50 for two girls including drinks wasn't bad at all. Then I figured you meant just the drinks rofl. Either you were right ripped off or drinking in the posh French bar or both. A beer in Bar Prado is only 2 or 3 reals. Mind you, there's plenty of less than posh people there willing to relieve you of money if you feel the need. I take it you know your way around and how to blend if you're going to lower yourself to my standards ;)
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.
I had to read that twice. I thought R50 for two girls including drinks wasn't bad at all. Then I figured you meant just the drinks rofl. Either you were right ripped off or drinking in the posh French bar or both. A beer in Bar Prado is only 2 or 3 reals. Mind you, there's plenty of less than posh people there willing to relieve you of money if you feel the need. I take it you know your way around and how to blend if you're going to lower yourself to my standards ;)
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.
We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.
We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.
Yep. Sounds right. I generally avoid the (latter) place although felt I had to have a few drinks there when I was trying to write about the Prado bars generally. There are one or two fans of it on here I believe.
Reported in today's Oglobo, Seven architectural firms are competing for the $R44 Million construction project to build the Museum of Sound to replace Disco Help.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/08/06/sete-escritorios-de-arquitetura-do-pais-do-mundo-disputam-direito-de-projetar-novo-mis-757147623.asp
Gallery of the Seven Designs:
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/fotogaleria/2009/9576/
Yes, it was me that did the Prado bar guide some while back. Sorry, don't have the URL to hand.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=864980#post864980
It would also be handy if anyone could report on the strip bars in the area
aswell.
Quick question for those in the know:
How much of the amount charged for an hour with a GDP in a Terma...say 4x4 for example (please also report on others if known, including private massagems) at 200R for a standard cabine...does a GDP get?
I figure this is a good question as it gives us an idea of where to begin negotiations for take out; theory being if they normally get 100R for an hour on site, then 200-250R for 3 hrs or all night would be a steal for us!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo
I know there is a ibis hotel in centro but whats the name of the other one near there.
I think it is formule .
Spot on. Formule 1 (http://www.accorhotels.com.br/guiahoteis/formule1/hotel_loc.asp?cd_hotel=200). It's marginally cheaper but less nice. More like a posh youth hostel. Can't recall the name of the sawdust and brown windows place opposite. I think the name might just be Rio Hotel.
The Formule is an ok overflow option if the Ibis is full (they have some formal links and recommend each other). But th eIbis is better at a posh price. The Rio is good at a sh*tty price.
Ibis Rio de Janeiro Centro
R. Silva Jardim
Rio de Janeiro - RJ, 20050-060, Brazil
(21) 3511-8200 (I think)
Formule 1 Rio de Janeiro Centro
Rua Silva Jardim, 32 - Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - Brasil
Telefone: (21) 3511-8500
Rio Hotel (good porto needed)
Rua Silva Jardim, 3
Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP: 20050-060
Telefone: +55 (21) 2282-1213
There's another Ibis over the other side of Centro that a colleague stayed in - quite ok part of town but less handy for cheap hookers.
Hotel Ibis Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont-Rede
Rua Mal Câmara, 280 - Centro
Rio de Janeiro - RJ, 20020080, Brazil
(21) 3506-4500
Exit numbers and 55 for all of these if you're phoning from outside Bras.
Memo to newbies: This is not the Rio you will see recommended from the hype and there are some streets nearby - such as the one that runs past the cathedral - where you should take care at night. Centro's good once you've got Copa or Ipanema outta the system so to speak. If it's your first trip, the Copa/Ipa options are still the best initiation probably. You can always grab a cab/bus/metro to see Centro.
Quick question for those in the know:
How much of the amount charged for an hour with a GDP in a Terma...say 4x4 for example (please also report on others if known, including private massagems) at 200R for a standard cabine...does a GDP get?
I figure this is a good question as it gives us an idea of where to begin negotiations for take out; theory being if they normally get 100R for an hour on site, then 200-250R for 3 hrs or all night would be a steal for us!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo
I have asked a few GDPs this very question. They told me that, in the termas where the charges are broken down separately for the room and for the girl, all of the girl fee goes to the girl and all of the room fee goes to the house. The entrance fee goes to the house as well. Whether this is true or not I don't know, but this is what I was told. In those termas where everything (except the entrance fee) is lumped into one charge, I don't know.
JohnnyBraz
08-09-09, 00:21
We sat in one bar to start off with that was for locals. They gave us some plastic chairs and we sat outside on the pavement as it was busy inside. 3 big bottles of beer came to around 10 reals. We then moved on to the bar I mentioned. From what I can remember it was on the left hand side of the street facing the beach. After looking at the map it was probably opposite the strip bars Erotica or Nikos. I think the owner may have been a gringo. Tall man with a bold head. Anyways this was my first visit to this area, but will give it another go after some more research.I think that the bar you are on about is called alasanders, opposite erotica and next to nikos. The owner is a gringo. European. You get a few gdp's go in there on the way to balconey.
I have asked a few GDPs this very question. They told me that, in the termas where the charges are broken down separately for the room and for the girl, all of the girl fee goes to the girl and all of the room fee goes to the house. The entrance fee goes to the house as well. Whether this is true or not I don't know, but this is what I was told. In those termas where everything (except the entrance fee) is lumped into one charge, I don't know.
But I suppose she will want to add taxis time n hassle. Unless you catch her when she's finished (and possibly shagged out for the day lol) :rolleyes:
Gianni Versace
08-09-09, 03:30
hey fellow mongers
gv here. gonna be in rio for 2 days and wanted to know if any of you could make a suggestion of a nice gf hotel to stay at in either copa or ipanema or centro that is close to all of the thermas and night action. btw is helpee closed now????
thanks in advance
gv
hey fellow mongers
gv here. gonna be in rio for 2 days and wanted to know if any of you could make a suggestion of a nice gf hotel to stay at in either copa or ipanema or centro that is close to all of the thermas and night action. btw is helpee closed now????
thanks in advance
gv
gv
i will be in rio for a couple of days in august and will be staying at the ibis in centro. i hear it is good, garota friendly and near the centro action.
i have not been there before, actually it is my first visit to rio, however trusted sources state it is a good place. hope this helps
cheers
a158
Centro is not near any 'night action' to speak of the same way there is night action in Copa. Like two different cities. Plenty of non-GDP partying round the corner from the Ibis in Centro. And the main centro termas are walking distance. But you get the Metro from Centro to Help or the beach.
The Ibis is great. But I'd still recommend most newbies to stay in Copa or Ipa. And if you take a girl from Copa back to Centro you somehow lose the atmosphere IMO.
Copa/Ipa are beach, sun, babes a-plenty and gringos don't look out of place hitting on all the outdoor flesh that roams the GDP bars.
Centro is like any other main city centre. Pussy action is generally behind closed doors.
Member #3439
08-09-09, 22:03
I just checked out the FM website and noticed that the entire staff is different than it was 1.5 months ago. Is this typical for Centro termas?
I assume Flavia wasn't one of those busted in the police raids. Or maybe they were and this is why the girls were changed?
This really irritates me. Brenda at FM was a outstanding 3 hole cum ho, even wanted to take me bareback in her culo. I had intentions of recruiting her for TLN in a few months when I get back to Rio! So pissed.
Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.
Any price on the rio hotel?
It was buttons when I last enquired. Can't remember - 20R or thereabouts. It's old and dingy, so not for you if you like creature comforts. The rooms are viable for a puta but quite seedy. I just had it as a fall-back option one time when Ibis and Formule were bursting and I wasn't sure how far my cash would go (Ibis to me is expensive, but I've stayed there for maybe a month earlier this year).
Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.4x4 opens at 2pm I think.
Rodeo
I just checked out the FM website and noticed that the entire staff is different than it was 1.5 months ago. Is this typical for Centro termas?
I assume Flavia wasn't one of those busted in the police raids. Or maybe they were and this is why the girls were changed?
This really irritates me. Brenda at FM was a outstanding 3 hole cum ho, even wanted to take me bareback in her culo. I had intentions of recruiting her for TLN in a few months when I get back to Rio! So pissed.Would you mind posting the website please.
Thanks!
Rodeo
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-10-09, 06:20
Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?
Would you mind posting the website please.
Thanks!
Rodeo
http://www.flaviamassagens.com.br/
The site appears to be down..............
Don't know if this has been mentioned recently. Bwana Dick has done a 2009 update of his Rio guide which you can download from:
{{{oooops! - Have tried unsuccessfully to post several coded versions of the download site but all rejected by the ISG electronic checker - so just google for
"Bwana dik rio guide 2009".
It'll come up easily.}}}
Quite good for a newbie "all you need to know" to get started guide. And very nicley written and formatted. 72 pages. Still needs a map or two and a basic phrase guide though. (And it admits the familiar laughable bias against VM - most of that section can be ignored.)
The temperature conversion chart at the end before the listings of termas and so on gave me a laugh -
35C = 95F
37C = 97.8F
39C = 102.2F
41C = Ridiculously Fucking Hot
Gfe Finder
08-11-09, 00:33
Any termas open as early as noon on weekdays? Ideally Copa area or Centro. I have a late afternoon GIG flight out, don't think I can squeeze in a session at Monte Carlo (opens at 3pm, as I remember) and still make it.
Yes, Termas Aeroporto opens at noon. I've not tried to session there and then catch a flight, so I don't know how tight that will make your schedule. NS Copacabana 583 #203 and #204 may be open then as well.
Bootyluv - What up. 3 mongers (DR vets) will be in Rio Aug 20th to 27th). Hit me up via PM if you want to meet up. We're staying in Copa, a few blocks from HELP. Peace.
Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?
Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?
I have a friend who is also fluent in Spanish and he doesn't seem to have any problems. Its always better to know at least a little of the local language, but you should be ok. Remember not all Brazilians will understand Spanish.
Sunset Strip
08-11-09, 06:35
Greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, Mexico, DR, Phuket, Bangkok, Aruba, US yada yada.
Will be leaving for Brazil in 1 week and I haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. I am fluent in spanish, did I just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud I expect?
Got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
What do you think bro's?
SOme locals will understand what you are saying in Spanish, but Spanish will not help you understand them at all.
Your friend who has been studying Porto will get lots of chances to use it.
TJ
Yesterday it was decided how the museum will look like.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/escritorio_americano_e_o_escolhido_para_dar_forma_ao_novo_museu_da_imagem_e_do_som_28673.html
Hi,
I got this email today from an apartment rental place I have used before in Rio:
For those of you who are interested
Disco HELP at Copacabana will close for sure now, and 90% sure that they will begin to tear down HELP within two months from now.
Early next year they will start to build a museum there.
There have been rumors about this for years as we all know.
But now tonight it was on the news.
This is what the museum will look like.
Divulgação / Divulgação
So for all of you who want to be at HELP the last nights, it's time to book your ticket now!
Best regards,
Anders Lindahl
Hi,
I got this email today from an apartment rental place I have used before in Rio:
Sounds like he is trying to capitalize on the recent oglobo articles about the replacement artist renditions for Help to drum up some needed business, good for him.
I doubt he knows anything more than anybody else, for the past 3 years every time I have been in Help I thought it might be my last, but we still get extensions. Let’s hope this goes on forever.
But for sure these firms have spent a lot of money to compete for their design, it's getting serious.
Misinformation
08-12-09, 04:50
greetings fellow mongers. 5 year veteran of mongering here, mexico, dr, phuket, bangkok, aruba, us yada yada.
will be leaving for brazil in 1 week and i haven't studied jack on that damn brazilian lingo. i am fluent in spanish, did i just screw myself by not doing my homework or what shoud i expect?
got a hotel and a good crew of guys 1 bro has been studying his ass off on the portuguese.
what do you think bro's?spanish and portuguese are completely different. things look the same but are pronounced very very differently. get a copy of pimsleur brazilian portuguese. since you are fluent in spanish once you get a grasp of the pronounciation (rio = he-yo, help = hel-[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), etc...) you will do alright but they are two different languages. way easier for you then a corn fed unilingual gringo like me. what to expect? you will have a blast. the girls, the sun, the food, the beach, the fun loving laid back people. compared to the places you mentioned brasil is the bomb.
The demolition of Help is supposed to start in two months. Most say in October and some even say next month.
http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/cultura/2009/08/11/projeto+escolhido+para+a+nova+sede+do+museu+da+imagem+e+do+som+e+apresentado+no+rio+7815907.html
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/copacabana_tambem_vai_ser_obra_de_arte_em_museu_na_orla_28750.html
Delays are quite common in Brazil, maybe also this time.
I appreciate the closing of Help and look forward with interest to see where the ladies will take their business. :)
The demolition of Help is supposed to start in two months. Most say in October and some even say next month.
http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/cultura/2009/08/11/projeto+escolhido+para+a+nova+sede+do+museu+da+imagem+e+do+som+e+apresentado+no+rio+7815907.html
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/copacabana_tambem_vai_ser_obra_de_arte_em_museu_na_orla_28750.html
Delays are quite common in Brazil, maybe also this time.
I appreciate the closing of Help and look forward with interest to see where the ladies will take their business. :)Oglobo also reported on this yesterday. Their report states Help Ownership is contesting the appraisal of $R13 million. A decision is expected in 2 months. If everything goes against Help, construction of the Museum is expected to start Feb 2010 and last 2.5yrs!!!
Other reports state the Museum will have a piano bar and a Dance Floor. It be hilarious if the GDP ply their trade there. What's Cabral and the state going to do then??
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/08/11/obras-da-nova-sede-do-mis-devem-comecar-em-fevereiro-de-2010-757362041.asp
Now that it is decided, no much matter if in 1 or 4 months, it has really sense to discuss it, so I ask to these ones who live in Rio and know the city better, where we should expect GDP will move when Help will be only a memory ?
Help for me was not a very good place but the only one where to go after midnight to meet with other mongers, take a drink, relax and to watch to the pros at work, so the answer "after Help where" is not that easy for girls, considering it should be a disco in copa or at least in ipanema as in these two places you have the 99% of turists.
I am afraid the mongering late at night in Rio will change totally, that it will never be as before and IMHO I never liked the bars-boite in Prado Junior and never took a SW and not plan to do it.
So during the day the beaches, late afternoon termas and after dinner where we all meet ? :)
So to make long short, do you think all the girls will move to one club, and where ? , or they will go to many different places, and it will make more expensive to us to travel to one to other to choose the one we like ?
The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).
Beach Star
08-12-09, 19:29
Spent a few days in rio on business last week. Stayed in the sheraton in barra , great hotel, highly recommended. Only time for mongering was my last night, turned left outside the hotel and 20 minutes walk later was at the cAFE 400. Fantastic women, too many to choose from. After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her. exceptional!!!!
Beach Star
08-12-09, 19:35
The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).
I am sure there are entrepreneurs ready to exploit the opening. Wish I had the money to invest. There is one place abandoned on the beach, it`s quite large inside and tere is a second floor. It used to be called the beer place or something in the old days it was called Bolero
Fellow deviants,
In doing my research for an upcoming trip, I ran across the following termas who are all reported to provide entrance, 1hr and room. Total for under $200R. I haven't seen any reporting on these places here recently, so, I was wondering if maybe they might be closed down or, what the current prices are, if the info was dated. I found the info on a forum for guys In Search of. Girls.
Please check the list and provide input if you can. Thanks:
Termas Black House
Termas Phoenix (Copa)
Termas Caribbean Queen
Termas Coquettish
Buena Vista Club
Termas Excentric
Termas Black and White
So’ File’ e Cia
Rodeo
Mr Enternational
08-12-09, 21:12
i arrived at ba 85 about 12:30. i usually deal with thick girls but i had made my mind up that i would find a spinner today. as soon as i got up to the first floor i saw patricia in the corner. she has a start tattoo with the letters kj on her left shoulder and braces in her mouth. from the start i knew she was the one i would be taking. however i sat down and got acclimatized to the scene. i wanted to make sure i was not leaving stones unturned. one other girl came over talking to me but i was not trying to show interest in her. patricia went out to smoke and as soon as she came back in she sat next to me. i told her let’s go! i paid the 20 reais and we went to the back for the session.
she tried to put on the condom before the sucking started but i gave her the finger wag. i let her do about a minute of dry head then i handed her the condom. i had about 18 minutes left to run a gamut of positions. after 2 minutes of quatro i took a look at her gaping pussy. i was in hog heaven. then i hit it from the side and asked her if she liked anal. she said no. before finishing up i asked her if she could sleep out of the house. she said it depended which day because she has a kid. i took her information along with her real name and told her that i would give her a call next time i am in rio. i got dressed and left to get lunch at my favorite centro por kilo spot.
i returned to ba 85 and went right to the second floor. there were a few winners but i remembered how much i hated the accommodations so i moseyed up to the third floor. i asked the lone girl there where everybody was. she said they were in the back. there was nothing for me there so i hit the staircase once again. when i got to the fourth floor the first person i saw was sheyla. she would do nicely for desert. i took her in the back for 15 minutes.
i was in midstroke when my phone started ringing. it was my home girl saying that she was on her way downtown to take some test that she had told me about the day before. i told her cool. i was already downtown and could meet her. she started to question where i was so i acted like the phone was breaking up and i hung up on her. plus my time with sheyla was ticking away. i should have never answered the phone in the first place because now i had lost my hard-on. we started laughing together. i had to hurry up and get it back up. i started pouncing on sheyla but dammit, the mattresses in rio fuck shops don’t have springs so there was no bounce back. although she was beautiful i had to use a lot of imagination to bust one off. i got dressed and went to meet my friend at carioca station. uruguiana 24 was calling my name as i passed but i resisted a peek inside.
The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).
I am inclined to believe that if another venue similar to Help does not open up where these gp's can go work, then as you mentioned on your post, many of these GP's will work at termas.
My main concern would be the owners of these termas will realize that the absence of Help would create more demand from the tourist mongers, thus encouraging the termas to jack up the prices. This sucks! Cause as it is, termas prices have just gone out of hand over the last couple of years. Even to a certain extent, the low end termas as well. Let's see what develops.
Mr Enternational
08-12-09, 21:24
As I was sipping caipirinhas at a kiosk across from Help last night, I was trying to picture the new museum in Help's place. If it does come to pass, it will look ridiculously out of place judging from the artist's rendition. A weird, new Niemeyer-esqe building nestled in the middle of apartment buildings and hotels from decades past.
Mr Enternational
08-12-09, 21:30
I am inclined to believe that if another venue similar to Help does not open up where these gp's can go work, then as you mentioned on your post, many of these GP's will work at termas.
My main concern would be the owners of these termas will realize that the absence of Help would create more demand from the tourist mongers, thus encouraging the termas to jack up the prices. This sucks! Cause as it is, termas prices have just gone out of hand over the last couple of years. Even to a certain extent, the low end termas as well. Let's see what develops.
Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)
Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)
I agree !
If we all, in one way or another will miss Help, it is nothing in comparison to how much Help girls will miss it, a place where with average or below service they were used to get much more money, with less effort than termas girls.
Surely some of them will go to termas, but they will soon realize that if they will not totally change their mind, they will not work at all. It is enough to think to bbbj, service that is common with all the termas girls I was without ask in advance and sometimes impossible to get with Help girls even with hard negotiating.
In short time, after the end of Help, I think the pros scene is gonna to change, I am curious to see if in better or worst way for all us.
Maybe they will open some new termas too ?!
The GPs that don't get work as rocket scientists will propably continue working as GP.
They propably spread out in Copa, centro, VM and termas. As most of the Help girls are lazy and spoiled after having gringos as customers the majority will continue to work with gringo mongers. Brazilian mongers wouldn't accept the behaviour that many of these girls are used to.
In Copa they will propably hang out at MP, Balcony, the Prado Junior area and stroll along Av Atlantica and the quisques. Propably there are some smart guy opening a disco for mongers and GPs (maybe in the old Bingo Hall in Arpoador).
Was pretty empty. As I talked to a few of them outside, they said they are heading down to Balcony Bar these days. Going tomorrow night to check out the action.
Geo
Those hard-headed, unregimented Help girls working at a termas? Fat chance. They do not have the discipline for that. As far as termas pricing, it is already through the roof. Only a fool would attempt to raise them more. (Although I know the fool rule doesn't really apply in Brazil.)
I agree that the help girls for the most part do not have the discipline for the termas. But that was not the main point of my report. The emphasis was more on its potential effect on the prices at termas.
Someone mentioned only a fool would do that. But for those who are familiar with the buss. mentality in Brasil....anything is possible.
I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
But now that it looks as though it is a strong possiblility of Help closing, it occurred to me that it might effect other gp scenes and its pricing, such as termas.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas. So there is definitely a correlation between the Help Scene shutting down and having a trickle effect on more mongers heading to termas, or heading more often. In turn, termas management could benefit on increase demand, and as crazy as it seems......increase in prices at the termas.
I am not prediciting this will happen, just stating it could be a possibility. Hopefully, I am totally wrong.
I agree that the help girls for the most part do not have the discipline for the termas. But that was not the main point of my report. The emphasis was more on its potential effect on the prices at termas.
Someone mentioned only a fool would do that. But for those who are familiar with the buss. mentality in Brasil....anything is possible.
I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
But now that it looks as though it is a strong possiblility of Help closing, it occurred to me that it might effect other gp scenes and its pricing, such as termas.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas. So there is definitely a correlation between the Help Scene shutting down and having a trickle effect on more mongers heading to termas, or heading more often. In turn, termas management could benefit on increase demand, and as crazy as it seems......increase in prices at the termas.
I am not prediciting this will happen, just stating it could be a possibility. Hopefully, I am totally wrong.
I actually think there is a high probability of such occurring. Carioca Logic and greed will be the cause.
Man, I have had some wonderful times at Help! It will suck ass when gone.
Smooth Slim
08-13-09, 05:55
Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.
Beach Star
08-13-09, 15:26
Spent a few days in rio on business last week. Stayed in the sheraton in barra , great hotel, highly recommended. Only time for mongering was my last night, turned left outside the hotel and 20 minutes walk later was at the cAFE 400. Fantastic women, too many to choose from. After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her. exceptional!!!!
Probably should have given a bit more information on this place. Its like a termas but you dont need to undress, the girls however are in all sorts of sexy outfits. It cost me R50 to get in and I think half of that could be offset against the bar bill. I went on my last night in Rio, had a great time, drank too much and am not sure how much I spent, probably about the same as one of the best termas. Its only open Mon-Fri, on Saturday it works as a swing club. According to the web site couples can also go on Fridays.
After a lot of drinks and a great time took a perfect blonde and spent over an hour with her.
What´s the cost for girl+cabin at Cafe 400 Barra?
Beach Star
08-13-09, 17:10
What´s the cost for girl+cabin at Cafe 400 Barra?
Just cant remember, I think I changed about $300 there, but a lot of drinks. It's not a cheap option, but I thought quality was very good.
http://www.praiaclub400.com.br/
My guess what effect Help closing has to GP's prices:
* In Rio, outside of Copa, the gringo mongers makes out just a tiny part of the mongers. Centro and VM will continue without a price increase.
* In Copa there might be an increase at L'uomo and MC as these two termas have a lot of gringo customers.
* MP has always been a rip-off and will continue that way.
* Balcony GP's in general are cheaper than MP GP's. The place will propably get a lot more GP's. Might raise the standard of the GP's at Balcony, which is good. The ex Help GP's will propably try to overcharge as there always will be suckers who don't mind overpaying. I doubt there will be a drastic price increase of the old Balcony girls.
* The streetwalkers will be more. Working the streets are though. The SW's can't be fuzzy if they want business. Propably no price increase.
I see no reason to monger in Copa so I have no worries about the GP prices rising. Loosing Help as a night club is no loss at all. Rio has a great night-life outside Copa.
It's good for the lazy Help girls getting their fat asses out on the street doing some honest GP work instead of ripping of gringos.
Disagree with the idea that prices go up. The prices in termas, etc. Have gone up partly in step with the health of the brazilian economy. Most things in brazil have gone up quite a bit when you are going to the higher end restaurants/hotels, etc. And the termas are part of that higher end lifestyle.
But no more help will mean more girls working for escort services, more selection, more deals, etc. And if help closes, some people will stop coming to Rio looking for pay-to-play and therefore less demand. Also, without help, the girls will not all be centrally located in one "market", so, prices are more open for individuals to negotiate and I think that most of the guys on this forum know how to negotiate, so, for those in the know, prices go down.
I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
www.marciavip.blog.br
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo
ChicoBarca
08-13-09, 19:04
Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.Hi Guys,
I have to say. I see a lot you think that the prices will rise and that mongering will be more expencive. But think twice dear friends. Imagine there is no Help, which in my opininion is have kept the prices up. The reason I think that is because the GDP do talk a lot with each other. Now that this opportunity disapears this might mean that meeting a garota in a different place with less other GDP's might lower the price.
You know, here in my coutry it got illegal to buy sex about 6 months ago and every one thought the prices would increase due to the fact less access to GDP's. Never happend, same prices and not less GDP's. Just a fact that new scenes were created. Don't worry guys. For sure it will work out for us. Learn a couple of frases in portuguese and you can even get it for free.
Greetings
Chico
Exec Talent
08-13-09, 19:17
I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
www.marciavip.blog.br
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo
Geo did a smart thing which is picked up a copy of O Dia. Sometimes there are private apartments listed with prices and specials. If you go, take the ad with you that way it is hard for them to charge you the gringo price.
I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
www.marciavip.blog.br
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
GeoBecareful with this agency, they are not true to their word. It was a mission trying to set up a festinha with this agency. They changed their prices when I called and there was always uncertainty when dealing with them. I ended up going with another agency for the party I put together. Just becareful guys!
Becareful with this agency, they are not true to their word. It was a mission trying to set up a festinha with this agency. They changed their prices when I called and there was always uncertainty when dealing with them. I ended up going with another agency for the party I put together. Just becareful guys!
Good catch Geo! I think that I will give them a shout as I saw someone I'd like to try.
Thanks for the warning Mangera.
Rest assured the closing of Help can make the mongering scene more expensive and could also bring more government scrutiny on the trade. The one thing Help did was make the scene more suitable/acceptable. It put the scene behind a thin veil, help to make it not so public.
Like several pointed out in prior posts, many of the GDPs don't have the discipline to work in the termas. Many will not go to VM. That could lead to more streetwalkers, more girls hanging at the bars, the restaurants, the beaches. These are highly visible, public places. Tourists will complain. There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly.
Prices will temporarily, and possibly permanently, increase. Less availability of product, less ease of accessibility to product means prices go up. Heck, the asking prices in Help have been ridiculous as of late. Take out from the termas will increase. They know Help is not an option, for those trying to bargain. It's simple, remove competition from the market and prices increase. Yes, some enterprising people rush to fill the void, but in this case that is not simple solution. You have a lot of independent women who are quite frankly not too discipline.
The termas will be busy. Prices will increase. They have a captive audience. Where are you going to go. They know most will pay to play. Busy termas mean crowded boites... not so good for those who like a less busy/crowded scene. It means less sitting and chatting with the girls. Again, they will be getting paid.
Though some may not use Help and even despise the club, it is an important part of the scene. You could find anything from high end termas quality to the VM. Removing it from the market is not a good thing, certainly not in the short term.I think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. What we really need to worry about is if Rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 Summer Olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. If they do become the host city forget it; Rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! Not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will GDP's!
Just cant remember, I think I changed about $300 there, but a lot of drinks. It's not a cheap option, but I thought quality was very good.
http://www.praiaclub400.com.br/
I went there a little over a year ago and it was about $180r or so for the girl/room. You had to pay this to this mamasan in a separate room before you go upstairs. Upon exit you give them your ticket and pay the entrance and drinks.
Posted by Iceberg Slim 2
"There was a code of behavior in Help. Girls rarely made trouble, and fights were not a frequent occurrence. It is doubtful that code will exist outside as of Help. I can see where the government will move to crack down if the trade becomes too public, too unruly."
Are you kidding me, the fights are one of the highlights of going into Help, LOL. You can always count on the Help gdps for a good catfight. Yes there is a great nightlife in Rio outside of Copa but for the average gringo Help was convenient and had mostly everything you needed for a *****mongering vacation.
Somebody mentioned it and I do not remember I read something about it in the last 8 months reading the forum....just in case somebody will suggest me RTFF ;)
Lapa ? I was there in january and I did not like it. ( even in disco Rio Antigo I did not see nice girls... )
VM ? Never been there and I do not plan too.
I listen about some discos in Ipanema, but I have no idea where they exactly are.
So where exactly is this nightlife ?
I called this agency last night around 9:00pm. They have a promotion for 6 hours I found in the classified ád ODIA Journal. They price was R200 for 6 hours, but when I mentioned to the girl on the phone, I was in Copacabanna, the girl told me to add R70 for Taxi. For 6 hours, I still thought R270 was a decent deal considering I called late.
The problem..the woman on the phone told me she would be at my apartment at 10:30pm. She didnt show up until 1:30am. I was pissed, and they pulled the infamous girl switch on me. However the girl they sent me Claudina was a GDP well worth the visit.
www.marciavip.blog.br
R120-2 hours
R140-3 hours
R200-6 hours
Geo
Did you find out where they are located? R$70 or R$35 one way means almost to the airport doesn't it? Or a similar distance?
Mr Enternational
08-14-09, 05:11
I personally, have never entered Club Help, even though I have been outside a couple of times. I really never gave a crap whether the place burned down or was shut down for one reason or another. I have always relied on on other ways of meeting gp's other than Help. Actually, I hardly ever used the Copa playground for a piece of ass. I am not saying its a horrible scene, its just not for me.
I only made this assumption based on the fact that not all, but many mongers rely on Help and other smaller gp places within Copa. If this same group od mongers goes out of Copa, its just to the better known termas.
My guess what effect Help closing has to GP's prices:
* In Rio, outside of Copa, the gringo mongers makes out just a tiny part of the mongers. Centro and VM will continue without a price increase.
* In Copa there might be an increase at L'uomo and MC as these two termas have a lot of gringo customers.
* MP has always been a rip-off and will continue that way.
* The streetwalkers will be more. Working the streets are though. The SW's can't be fuzzy if they want business. Propably no price increase.
I see no reason to monger in Copa so I have no worries about the GP prices rising. Loosing Help as a night club is no loss at all. Rio has a great night-life outside Copa.
It's good for the lazy Help girls getting their fat asses out on the street doing some honest GP work instead of ripping of gringos.
I agree. Help sucks. The last time I was inside was 2005, and that is because I only wanted to show a newbie. I had to beg the doorman to let me in wearing shorts just to show this guy. But when the prices started rising above R$15 to go inside I would no longer support the place. Now I have been known to stand out front to get them going in, coming out, or the TA girls, but R$100 TLN is my limit.
As a matter of fact I remember my very first time on the scene. I didn't even make it inside of Help. I found a gem outside and decided to take her for TLN 100. And that was when the US dollar was almost 4-to-1. I had the time of my life. Videos and everything. I didn't even sleep until 10 the next morning. The next morning I gave her R$100 and she started bitching saying it was supposed to US$100. I said shit I am in Brazil, I don't even have US money. Then she was saying how she was going to get her friends who are cops. Being a newbie I was scared for the next couple of days but I still only gave her R$100.
Anyway. When I do monger it is in places like VM and downtown casas. Those places cater to locals so like Sperto said I am not worried about the Copa crowd (gringos or gdps) screwing them up. The same pussy I am paying R$26 for earlier in the night, someone in Copa is paying R$200 for later on that night when they get off work!
P.S. MP pissed me off about 8 months ago when I stopped in to shoot the shit. I ordered a caipirinha and it came to R$12. I cursed the waiter's ass out and said mf R$12? I can go to the store and buy 3 bottles of cachaca for that! It will be a cold day in hell before y'all see me back in here.
You know, here in my coutry it got illegal to buy sex about 6 months agoMy condolences. Do you mind saying which country that is or at least the part of the world? I had no idea this happened.
Jamaicanceo
08-14-09, 07:27
i think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. what we really need to worry about is if rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 summer olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. if they do become the host city forget it; rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will gdp's!solution if rio gets the 2016 olympics, stay out of rio. like carnival season prices will go up, but they will come down after the olympics. and the helpee girls will starve if helpee closes. after walking the street for a few hours, they will get hungry and tired to beg for someone to let them sleep in a mongers apartment for r$100.00. remember supply and demand, the more gdp in one area comoeting in the same manner, prices will go down. they all can't sleep on the beach at the same time. and with all the gdp prices at low bottom, less mongers will spend money in high end termas.
that's my theory.
Hi Guys,
I have to say. I see a lot you think that the prices will rise and that mongering will be more expencive. But think twice dear friends. Imagine there is no Help, which in my opininion is have kept the prices up. The reason I think that is because the GDP do talk a lot with each other. Now that this opportunity disapears this might mean that meeting a garota in a different place with less other GDP's might lower the price.
Greetings
ChicoI agree with Chico. Help is a place that the GDPs get to talk to one another and set prices. It is a convenience store where toursits could go and see all sorts of ladies. Lazy, drunk tourists negotiating with for lazy GDPs = higher prices. Like drunk dudes looking for munchies at 3 am at a 7-11. They don't negotiate the price on Doritos, hot dogs, twinkies and a Big Gulp. The ladies were shooting fish in a barrell. Having more independents spread out having to hustle for attention should lower prices IMO. I never took a lady out of Help as it did not sound appealling from what I read here. I have been dealing with independents, agencies and termas (sessioning with the ladies both in and out of the termas) and have been very pleased with the results. The termas can only handle so much more business. Most times I go to a termas there are too many women for too few guys already - and there are only limited rooms. Supply and demand.
Did you find out where they are located? R$70 or R$35 one way means almost to the airport doesn't it? Or a similar distance?
The girl who showed up said they were located Northern Centro. Check this out, the maddam name who runs the place is Marcia. When the girl showed up, she showed up in a regular car with a woman driving. It wasnt a taxi. She came up to my room and asked me to pay her because she had to bring the money downstairs to the driver (which was a woman). I told her I would follow her back to the car and she said no problem. She then gave the woman in the car the money and she drove off. We went back upstairs and she was great. Totally completa! BBBJ, cum in mouth, anal..you name it, there was no problem, literally wore me out.
I later found out that the driver was actually Marcia who takes the girls herself long distance ensuring the client actually is truthful. So I believe this agency does not believe in the honor system that when a client calls for a GDP, if she is late, the client will just not answer the door if she shows up 3 hours late. They might have gotten burned a few times showing up late and the client refusing to let her in.
Geo
This is probably by far the best reliable Agency in Rio. Independants are good, also but more expensive. I found out how this agency operates. Karla Agency is a house (not a Casa d Masagem), with rooms fillled with bunk beds for the girls only. The girls have to be awake at 8am to work and they are done by 10:00pm. They work a 5 day a week shift and then they are off 2 days. The days they are working they MUST go back to the house to sleep (unless you can agree with some type of payment for the night). Some of these girls are really hot and yes they go back to a military style bunk bed to sleep at night to wake up early to attend clients. I confirmed this with 3 girls already. Apparently, the working class in Brazil, like morning sex alot before heading off to work.
What I like about this agency is that they dont pull a switch on you and if you tell them you want the girl at your pad by a certain time, they are there exactly when you want. Had 3 different girls in 3 days and all were great!
Geo
I concur, I have used Karla Models on every trip and was never disappointed about the GDP service/looks.
Scortshow is the same agency with a different website, mostly the same girls.
http://www.scortshow.net/
I concur, I have used Karla Models on every trip and was never disappointed about the GDP service/looks.
Scortshow is the same agency with a different website, mostly the same girls.
http://www.scortshow.net/I have used both agencies with mostly good results. Last time, I had Soraya (sp? ) and she was 20 lbs heavier than her photos with an okay face. I almost sent her back. She brought the book along and I was going to make a switch. But she had a great attitude and personality. I stayed with her and the sex and company were terrific. Actually some of the best I had that trip. They are always making changes to the roster, and there are so many recent additions. I'll be in Rio in several weeks. If you have any ladies from these sites that you recommend it would be greatly appreciated.
Sunset Strip
08-14-09, 19:53
tj hit centro today. it was relatively dead, which might mean people are waiting for payday.
anyway, i had sessions with 3 girls today. paula, a blond on floor 3 of ba85. she is the one who a guy reported walked off from him last month. well, i knew who she was when i read his post and decided to try her. she knows me so i knew she would not diss me. anyway, she is not a good lay. very dry! no orgasm for me.
i also sessioned with amanda on the 3rd floor. she is dark brown with blonde streaks in her hair. her tits are big and she has a nice sized butt. it felt good but no orgasm. actually, i held off with her to some extent.
finally, i went to floor 2 to see renata. she is ignoring me again. oh, well, i went with vonda, the short, older one who is always there. she has a good attitude so i felt i had to be nicew and give her a try. she gave a good bj then i put a finger down there and boom, it was wetter than i could believe. i could actually see the wetness on my finger in the dark of the second floor. it took me around 5 minutes (ok 3) to orgasm. i have decided that you can never tell who is going to be good in bed. looks do not matter.
crazy women (remember elizabeth from mabs who followed me into a therma, ran up a tab at mabs in my name, and hung outside my door for hours peeking through the crack in the floor), older women (vonda), and others who are not the best looking seem to have some good p***y!
p.s. i forgot to add that when i was on floor 2 something ran across my leg. i kept my shoes on but still did the deed. also on floor 4 a bug or something ran from behind the counter while i was sitting there, saw me and ran the other way. a bit scary.
tj
Sunset Strip
08-14-09, 20:40
I have a house call in progress at the moment. I reached a girl I met years ago via yahoo chat. My message asked her to stop by for R50 and when I got back from centro she had left a message saying ok. (she said she really missed me which is a way, probably, to rationalize to herself taking the low price.)
She just arrived, no mention of money, but I gave her R20 to get some beer (that is why I am free to type this message).
When she comes back I am going to let her drink a few, get a BJ while watching TV (I like sitting around using the remote while girls are giving me a BJ. Got to love the whole power of the moment!).
I will be sure to verify the price before we get to sex.
I will let you guys know how it turns out.
Only downside is she wore panties. I have got to train her like I did Kezia! In fact, i should have yanked them off her before sending her out for the beer.
NO DRAWERS, PLEASE.
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-14-09, 22:56
House call is going well. She volunterred to cook breakfast and dinner all this week. I gave her R50 to shop for groceries. She will be back in a few minutes. Meanwhile, I am kicking back drinking the Jack Daniels I bought in Duty Free!
I already got an orgasm; the sex was good. I am going to give her R50 for the sex, no problems.
I admit she did ask for an extra 20R for her sick daughter. This could be BS, but I am not concerned. R50 is only $25US for the sex and I am going to get it again while she cooks BUTT NAKED! Plus she is cooking all this week.
Besides I only spent R50 at BA 85 (see previous post), so I am making out quite well.
TJ
Sanmichele
08-15-09, 01:36
Is this what HELPy will become?
http://gizmodo.com/5337726/museum-of-image-and-sound-to-stand-as-rio-de-janeiros-next-beachside-attraction
Mr Enternational
08-15-09, 03:33
TJ hit centro today.
Finally, I went to floor 2 to see Renata. She is ignoring me again. Oh, well, I went with Vonda, the short, older one who is always there. She has a good attitude so I felt I had to be nicew and give her a try. SHe gave a good BJ then I put a finger down there and boom, it was wetter than I could believe.
Is this the older white chick I saw with a bunch of tattoos? If so, DAMN I knew I should have fucked her.
P.S. I forgot to add that when I was on floor 2 something ran across my leg. I kept my shoes on but still did the deed. TJ
You just reminded me of why I didn't fuck her...LOL!
Sunset Strip
08-15-09, 12:51
Is this the older white chick I saw with a bunch of tattoos? If so, DAMN I knew I should have fucked her.
You just reminded me of why I didn't fuck her...LOL!
That is her.
LOL. On floor 2, they keep it dark in the back for a reason. I doubt we really want to see the floor.
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-15-09, 12:57
Ok. My in call just left, it is a few minutes before 9am Rio time. She stayed all night, cooked dinner, and just cleaned the kitchen before leaving. I am to call her again today around 5pm.
Last night we we sitting around watching TV and getting drunk and it became obvious she did not want to go home, so I let her stay.
This morning I gave her R50 and she left.
I am glad there are still some Copa girls who have their heads on straight.
TJ
Gianni Versace
08-15-09, 13:42
Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV
Sunset Strip
08-15-09, 14:36
Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV
Ask the guys in the Rio apartment/hotel thread for the best answers.
TJ
Fellas
Help Me! I know I have asked you guys before and have searched the forum and previously have stayed in copacabana at the Princess Copacabana hotel in my previous trips where do you mongers suggest to stay near any action? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance
GV
Im over in Rio right now. I've made around 20+ trips here and always stay in Copacabanna. Get yourself an apartment around the Miguel Lemos/Rua Djalma Ulrich area if you want to be in the middle of the action. Termas Loumo/Monte Carlo are short walk , HELP is here (only for a short time more), beach is right across the street, Terracco Atlantico and Meia Pataca are cool day time Mongering places during day as well. Av N. Copacabanna is right up the block and has bars, kilos, restaurants of your choice. Post office, Cartorios and Banks are all here.
I like this area...but I Monger in Centro now. lol!
Geo
Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
www.bellasgatas.com
Geo
Sunset Strip
08-15-09, 15:43
Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
www.bellasgatas.com
Geo
Interesting. Does make it very difficult for most travelers. Perhaps, you could give them the number to the security desk. Just a thought.
TJ
Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
www.bellasgatas.com
GeoWhy not just give her your cell how would she know its not residential lol.
It do have Rio area code lol
i would have lol
Called this agency last night. Check this out. I really wanted to be with this girl Valesca. She has info and picture on her, 1.80 and loira. Right up my alley since she appears tall and thick and I'm 6'1. I like tall and thick 'bundas'women.
I called, talke to the telefonista, however she told me I needed a residential phone for them to come. I told them I was in a residential apartment with no phone, just cell. She refused to send one over. I told her she would lose alot of American clients if this is their rule because most Gringos just have cell phones and no residential phone.
I've used Karla/Scortshow and Newscort and was never a problem using cell phone.
For those who have a Residential phone and want to give this a try:
www.bellasgatas.com
Geo
Once in a while, KarlaModels will do the same thing. Last year I had called KM to deliver a couple a couple of girls and I had to argue for like 3 minutes because I only had a cell number.
Interesting. Does make it very difficult for most travelers. Perhaps, you could give them the number to the security desk. Just a thought.
TJ
Im not to keen on giving the front desk number. Even though i am in an apartment. I call every day, so i dont want the desk guys to think i owe them something monetarily.
Having a blast. Over on Djalma Ulrich. PM me, give me a call, goin to Lapa tonight,
Geo
Interesting... I went to Centaurus armed only with the knowledge from Bwana guide and raised a bit of stink claiming that they charged me tourist prices (120 entry, 300 reals for 40 min) (the guides say something like 90/230) if memory serves me right. Now I'm searching through the posts to see what are `real' prices since I would like to know if I was overcharged or not.... can some of the experienced members answer this? - my first time in Rio.
Btw, as I was expressing my concerns about the pricing, they pulled out some printed sheet showing the prices that they charged me, and in addition another english-speaking client who was passing by mentioned that this was `the most transparent' place in Rio.... not exactly in accordance to what I'm reading in this forum. Well, he also mentioned that their prices could be different at different days of week... what a transparency!
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.
Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not.
120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
About 20 girls, the same quality as in the other termas. Only two customer and me and my friend, we left after one beer....I am happy I saw it, first and last time in my life.
Solarium21, even if it is a bit more far from copa, but it reminds me, as prices and quality, Montecarlo. I saw almost all the same girls I saw in january.
I spoke too long with a girl and her handjob and french kissing, convinced me to go to bedroom. Anal and bbbj, it was all good, but nothing wonderful, too mechanical, but I do not regret.
Later help and....one of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I start to spoke with a thin tall, great body, average face, after a bit of DFK, she told me....well, my price is 300 reais, but I found a man that gives me 400 reais to go with him, but if you pay me 400 reais, I like you more and I go away with you.
I smiled.....and I start the usual questions....how long time you will stay with me ? She said...till 6:00 am.....it was the 4:11am....I told her, so you think you are gonna to get 400 reais for something as 90 minutes at early morning ?
She no more smiled, she understood I never went to pay her and she stand up and out loud said that.... " you do not like me ! "
We were sitting outside, some persons close to me smiled, others looked to me surprised, as if I said something bad.....I was happy she left, I still neither start to ask if she did bbbj and anal and to work to get her price down, that she showed very well her attitude....
The bad thing here, is that she was one of the best one yesterday....
In one hour I will be there and is even today nothing, I will go to check some boites at prado junior just to see something different.
Lukasek
P.S. Terraco Atlantico is good place to see the girls, ok, I agree, but there I ate the worst sea fruit rice of all my life...imho.
Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:22
touched down in gig in the early morning and on leaving the plane (before immigration) was greeted by a bunch of brazilians from the ministerio do saude with mouth covers and gloves ... was feeling kind of strange and i had to fill out a small piece of paper with my name, tel no and if i had some symptoms .... i was wondering who actually answers these questions honestly? anyway, didn´t take long and i could go on, immigration was fast and very friendly, my suitcase also arrived and i was ready to go. before leaving i called fred from my apartment rental (www.thewonderfulcity.com) and told him that i will be coming with the next airport bus and would like to meet him at the apartment. the airport bus (7r$) took more than 75 minutes to get to copacabana due to heavy morning traffic. when i arrived at the apartment fred was not there, but it turned out that his mother had been there but i just missed her by some minutes and she left the key with the guard. so i received the key and went to my apartment. it was just like on the pictures on their website and totally ok for my purposes ... it was just around the corner from helpee (roughly 100 meters) and had a large bed with huge mirrors (yes!!! lol), a tv, a cd player, ac, a small bathroom with a warm shower, a small kitchenette with fridge, coffee maker, oven and all necessary kitchen utensils.
i showered and organized myself: i went to the office of wonderfulcity.com to pay my balance, bought a sim card from tim (15 r$ without credits), took some money from an atm and bought stuff in a supermarket in order to fill up my frigde! in my apartment i laid down and took a nap for an hour. after that i had a stroll at the beach and finally decided to go to vila mimosa and check it out.
let me take this opportunity to thank sperto for his great reports and maps ... they really helped me a lot and made it all a lot easier! thank you so much sperto ...please go on with your great job for isg and all of us.
took the metro from copacabana to são cristovão (2,80 r$) ... took me 40 minutes and thanks to the map from sperto could find vila mimosa quite easily ... i arrived there at 1.30 pm ... not so many girls there and also not all bars and corridors already open, but i took a tour around and checked the available girls.
one caught my eyes .. she was pregnant (maybe 5th or 6th month) and 20 yo, her name was chrystal. we just had a small conversation and we fixed the deal (but i forgot to fix a bbbj... shit). i paid 27r$ at the bar (1r$ extra for condom if you do not bring your own) and saw in the list where the girls “register their business” that i was the first customer for her on this day. very good, since i prefer fresh pussies ..., so we went in the back of the bar and up a dark and narrow spiral staircase. on the first floor the girls do have their rooms ... very basic, very small, just enough for a mattress and a small alley but with ac ...very dirty (mattress and floor). she brought her blanket and put it over the mattress .. ok, but i wouldn't like to lay down there .. so the positions were somehow restricted. i took some photos although she refused to let me take her pussy and some action shots ... she gave me a covered bj (due to the hygienic standard i didn't try daty), then i fucked her in a few different positions. she was very loud and it seemed to me that she thought that if she would make sounds like in a porn movie that this would make me come faster .... anyway she rushed me and finally i blew my load.
out in the street again another girl with nice sized titts raised my interest .. she just arrived and i followed her to her bar and after some minutes i went over to her and talked to her. she was 20yo, named juliana, and agreed to my conditions (bbbj, photos) and so i paid 27r$ again (another fresh pussy!), we went up another narrow spiral staircase and into a room. same story like before ... very dirty, but at least the girl was more pleasing, not rushing things, let me take photos of everything and gave me a nice bbbj. then i entered her and we changed a few times the positions (but i never laid on the mattress) until i finally finished. we went down and i went back to the metro station to go back to my apartment.
i relaxed a few hours, then i went for dinner in a churrascaria. afterwards i watched some tv and took a nap preparing for a night in help.
my alarm clock woke me up at 11pm... boy, was i tired. so i decided not to go inside help but i would try my luck outside of help ... although tired i didn't want to spoil a night without some brazilian pussy ... went there at 11.30 pm and there were a lot of garotas still waiting outside. i walked around, talked to some garotas and finally i made my choice ... a 25 yo dark morena with a huge bunda with the name of ana bella. she wanted 150r$ for 1 hour and she didn't want to go down .. so after some negotiating i accepted and she agreed to bbbj and photos. so off we went to my apartment. at first she posed for some photos (and she seemed to enjoy it), then we had a shower and finally we came to action. she gave me a soso bbbj, i gave her a long daty and she always edged me to go on with “chupa mais!”. i fucked her in multiple positions for some time until i came. shortly afterwards she stood up and got dressed. so after 45 minutes she left, but i wasn't pissed, since i was tired and was happy that i could sleep alone.
see also my pix of the girls in the photo gallery!
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Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:23
I woke up at 9am, showered and decided to do some tourist stuff. So I went to Centro by metro and walked around the Catedral and the Arcos da Lapa. I took the tramway to Santa Teresa (0,60 R$ OW) and made a circle. Afterwards I walked back to the next metro station and went back to my apartment. I rested for some minutes and went to Vila Mimosa by metro. Arrived there at 3.25 pm and I entered the first corridor and as soon as I was inside I already found my girl for a quick fuck. She was 19yo, her body was smoking hot and she agreed to everything. So I paid 25 R$ and we went up a narrow spiral staircase to a small room (just as yesterday). She immediately started to pose and I took some nice photos. Then I unpacked my dick and she gave me a BBBJ ... after 5 minutes she put the condom over and I fucked her first doggie style. We changed positions a few times and after some time I couldn't hold it any longer and I let it come. She cleaned my dick and we got dressed and went down. Once outside I decided to go back to Copacabana and to relax and to get some sleep.
See also my pix of the girl in the photo gallery!
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At 11.30 pm I went to Help. I went straight inside (28 R$ cover charge) and waited until it filled. After 12 am the garotas were abundant and I talked to many of them during the course of the night, but I must say, there was no real stunner among them, IMHO just above average. And the funny thing was, that the quoted ridiculous prices ... from 300 R$ for TLN until 300 R$ for only one hour ... and they even didn't want to go lower. So I already put off my plan to take one home tonight, on my way out at 3 am, one stopped my and talked to me. So I tried my luck for the last time and she agreed on 200 TLN (with BBBJ, photos, and everything). Her name was Sol Maria and she was 20yo (morena, small, slim rack, long black hair). Actually this should have rung some alarm bells in me, but at this moment I wasn't thinking and I took her home. Inside my apartment I soon started to regret my decision deeply, coz she turned out to be a pain in the ass and first wanted the money up front (which I declined, and offered her half payment now and the other half later – she accepted), second didn't want to be taken photos naked (she said something about police which I, with my limited Portuguese, not understood), third didn't want to do BBBJ, and fourth wanted only to stay for 1 hour for 200 R$. After some discussion in which I lost my mood totally, I just wanted to get it over and her out. So I agreed to her “imposed conditions”, she gave me a CBJ, I fucked her hard, changed the position just once and finished it. I gave her the money and threw her out of my apartment. Now I do know what you guys mean when you are talking about the bad attitude of the Help girls. Totally pissed I went to sleep.
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Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:23
In the morning I took a bus to Cosme Velho and went to Corcovado. The day was beautiful (sunny, blue sky) and the view was breathtaking. Although I have been up there already many times, this is always something which makes me feel reverential ... what a wonderful city! After 1,5 hours on top I went down and went directly to Vila Mimosa by metro. I wandered around the corridors and bars but this time nothing raised my deeper interest ... so after 30 minutes I called it off and went back home, where I first checked the internet and my mails, went for dinner (rodizio) and took a nap. At 11 pm I went for a stroll along Copacabana. I decided not to go to Help this night but to try my luck just outside of Help. Had some drinks in a beach bar on Copacabana and on my way back to my apartment I stopped in front of Help and checked the available talent. Went around, chatted with some girls, but nothing I really liked, and with the experience from last night I was very cautious and reserved. So after 30 minutes I called it a night and went to sleep alone.
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Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:25
Since it was a Sunday and all of Rio seemed to be at the beach I also went to Ipanema and Copacabana beach. Wow, eye candy wherever you turned your head ... unbelievable small strings and nice bundas .. in all colors and shapes ... God must have had a very good day when he created Rio and the Carioca women.
After 3 hours of mouthwatering watching and astonishing I needed some action ... so I strolled over Copacabana boardwalk, passed by the Othon and in one of the beach bars/ kiosks I saw a cutie smiling at me – she was with a female friend and was only wearing a hot pants and a yellow T-shirt without a bra and her nipples were clearly visible. I passed by but after 50 meters I turned around and sat at the table next to her. Of course, she immediately made contact (her name was Marcia) and we started a conversation, during which her friend left and we continued. Our conversation was going more and more in the direction as planned and she asked me whether I was looking for company this afternoon (she was a garota da programa and works in a bar on Av. Atlantica at night). Of course I affirmed it and from then on everything was set ... but she didn't want to quote me her price ... she always said that she will tell me afterwards. Normally this rings my alarm bells, but I was somehow feeling comfortable with her and I was so horny that I just went for it. So after we had paid we went to my apartment. Once in the room we started to kiss and grope each others for a while. Since she didn't allow action photos, I just could get 2 images of her dressed. We showered and cleaned and then we started the real action on the bed. I must say, that the sex with this little cutie was definitely one of my better experiences in last years. We kissed really wild (DFK), I kissed her body all over including DATY, then she returned the favor and gave me a nice long BBBJ, and then she put on a condom and rode me like a wild cowgirl. We switched the positions multiple times and we were sweating like hell ... even the AC couldn't help. After some 45 minutes of wild banging during which she came 3 times, I took off the condom and asked her to suck me until I came. Actually I asked her to CIM but she didn't want it ... so when I came she removed my dick out of her mouth and let me ejaculate on my belly (and unfortunately on the bed). She rushed for some tissues and cleaned my dick. Afterwards she laid to me on the bed again and we held each others and stroke our bodies. I was really feeling very good .. and she also enjoyed it and was a real GFE. After a while she asked me to tell her when she should leave ... but I still wanted to feel her company and so we laid there for more than 45 minutes. But then I wanted her to leave, she cleaned, got dressed, left me her mobile number and asked me for 200 R$ which I declined with a smile and we settled for 150R$ ... for more than 2 hours of fun a decent deal in Rio .. I think she was happy and so was I.
See also my pix (no nudes) of the girl in the photo gallery!
917070
I showered again, watched some TV, wrote this report and went for dinner in my favorite churrascaria.
Afterwards I went to the beach and sat in one of the kiosks/ beach bars and had a couple of cerevjas and caipirinhas ... maybe one or two too much, since I was feeling drunk and had no mood to find some pussy. So I went back and went to sleep.
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Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:26
Another sunny and hot day in paradise .. so I went to explore Praia de Botafogo (totally deserted) and afterwards Praia do Flamengo ... at least here I could enjoy some hot bundas. After 2 hours of baking in the sun I was feeling for some pussy and so I went to Vila Mimosa again (for the last time of my trip). Looked around, not so much choice, but since I was there I chose a blonde (not real blonde) with small titts, her name was Rayssa and she was 20yo. She agreed on BBBJ and photos and I paid 27 R$, we went up the obligatory spiral staircase and into the room. As it turned out she suddenly just wanted to be taken on one photo without her face ... I was pissed again, stowed away my camera, took out my dick and asked her to suck me which she did. After some time she put on the condom and I fucked her first missionary (somehow avoiding top lay on the mattress) and then doggie style. After some heavy pounding I came. She cleaned my dick and I got dressed and went back to Copacabana.
My overall conclusion of Vila Mimosa:
- in the late afternoon I was feeling quite safe, but I definitely wouldn't go there after dark alone ...next time I would explore it at night but only with a buddy/ wingman
- in the afternoon only a few garotas available; I was told that at night there are many more
- a very seedy place, very dirty; the cabins/ rooms and the mattresses are hard to take .. but IMHO ok for a quick fuck with some young garotas
- also cheap fuck ... only 25/ 27 R$ for some 20 minutes
- definitely low end, not for the fainted hearted, but if you can take it, it is ok
So back in Copacabana I got a quick bite and relaxed in my apartment.
Then at 9 pm I went out for a stroll along Copacabana and stopped at some kiosks to have some drinks ... but this time I didn't get drunk because I also wanted to have a final Brazilian fuck that night, since I would leave for home the next day. So back in front of Help, I saw one garota which caught my eyes ... and if you see the pix you will know why ... she was really sexy, no bra, no panties, short skirt, a T-shirt which hardly covered her titts and nipples. This one I wanted to have .. so I went over and talked to her. Her name was Erika, 25yo, and she started the negotiations with 300R$ for one hour. I said no and after some back and forth we settled at 150 R$ ... CBJ but including photos (but no sex photos) ... since I wanted to fuck this cutie so desperately we closed the deal and went to my apartment. Even the guard at the lobby couldn't concentrate signing her in, since her titts and nipples kept popping out ... poor guy ... so once in my apartment she wanted to be paid first and wouldn't drop it ... so after some minutes I finally agreed since I felt that I could trust her and handed her the 150 R$. After that she somehow was more relaxed (she seemed to have made bad experiences in regards to money issues with some fellow mongers) and we started kissing ... no DFK. After I will I took out my camera and took some shots ... and she was willing to pose in every position I wanted her ... I just couldn't take any close-up pix of her pussy or any action ones. But anyway, I was happy to have at least those ... and so we went one, I undressed her slowly, always taking new photos, she undressed me, we both cleaned each others and then we went on the bed for the action. She immediately gave me a CBJ and then I returned the favor and gave her DATY ... after a while, she was moaning, I couldn't resist anymore and entered her missionary, then we changed to cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie and finally I couldn't hold it any longer and shot my soldiers into the rubber. She laid down and we just relaxed for 5 minutes and then she stood up, cleaned, got dressed and left. Totally satisfied I went to sleep. What a nice final fuck of my Rio trip!
See also my pix of the girl in the photo gallery!
917071
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Dars Veider
08-15-09, 21:26
After waking up I packed my suitcase, met Fred in the lobby to hand over the apartment key and went by airport bus to the international airport. So long Brazil. Ate mais!
Sunset Strip
08-15-09, 23:19
Went to centro today. The area is still is not a lively as it has been in the past on Saturdays.
BA 85 had two floors open. The selection was not good at all.
I sessioned with Vonda, the older, short chick on the 2nd floor. I got a real good look between her legs today and saw she has some nice puffy lips down there. R15
I also sessioned with Suela (?) on floor one. She is normally a floor 3 girl, but as I have said previously they open floor one on Saturdays and girls from other floor work there.
Suela is dark brown with shoulder length hair (curly, not straight hair). R15, plus she asked for R10 for anal. I did not catch what she was saying and did the deed (actually she put it in there, not me). Afterwards she sat around and then "reminded" me of my promise of an extra R10. I gave it to her rather than argue but reminded myself never to mess with her again. Then she told me she is going to Copacabana beach on Sunday, which informed me she knew I was American.
There are too many of us going to centro now and it is just going to get worse with them scamming.
They are playing lots of hip hop and rap now, but I know this is partly because Brazil has such a large young population.
Total was a little under R50.
Had a good time.
TJ
Sun was really warm and everyone was out. My mistake of drinking Stohls in the sun as I was talking to 3 beauties laying on the sand. Naturally I had to ask them for a 'Triplas' since the alchol was taking over. Another big mistake, as we all know when we drink alot in the sun, screwing can become problematic. They charged me R50 each for the hour. I think they knew this was easy money for them, because of my condition. I only sank my johnson into one of them, while the other 2 were the ball lickers. I was out of gas after that. I even told all 3 of them to leave after 1/2 hour, after i did the deed.
Oh well, I have pissed away the equivalence of R150 in worse ways. It think it was way more mental being with 3 GDPs than actually enjoying a full hour.
Geo
...
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.
Carpediem,
funny as you quoted the post I wrote half year ago :)
The only difference between Centaurus and the other termas is in higher prices and not in better looking girls IMHO.
And yes, Centaurus is the place EVERY taxi driver want to show you...
Geo,
150 reais it worth a triplas, experience not many men in the world tried ;)
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-16-09, 02:18
Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?
Smooth Slim
08-16-09, 02:37
I think you guys are worried about the wrong things in regards to price increase with help closing. What we really need to worry about is if Rio becomes the city that will host the 2016 Summer Olympics; the reason we see price increases now is because they are one of four city candidate for 2016. If they do become the host city forget it; Rio will become a tourist trap, high prices, an ocean of inexperienced mongers ruining the scene paying super high prices, airfare increases, hotel/apartment rate increase and the list goes on! Not to mention you know the termas will increase price and so will GDP's!Yep, this happens anytime a major event lands in any city. Prices for everything increase. When the Super Bowl rolls into town.. everything becomes more expensive and crowded.
Smart money has Chicago as the city selected for the Olympics.. All eyes are on Brasil because they will host the 2014 World Cup. That success might get the country the Olympics in 2020.
Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?
About communicating with the Garotas in Portuguese. If they dont understand you, they will pull up fingers telling you how much. Spanish numbers and hours are similar to Portuguese numbers...you'll get by.
Only probelm you would have, would be ordering a GDP from an agency. Unless you know someone who knows Portuguese that can order for you.
Girls range in prices. If you read the posts here, you will see after 3am prices drop dramatically anywhere you go. At midnight, expect the bidding to start between R400-R500 for the night. With agencies, you can''t negotiate the prices.
Just remember this, if you can get a decent price between R200-250 it will be later..much later in the evening. Just me, but at 3 or 4am, I personally only have gas in my tank for one time around. Why pay R250 for one time around? I personally like to call the agencies around 8pm and drill for oil 2 hours with her. When she leaves around 10pm, I've only paid R120-R150 for the 2 hours. I'm content, take a nap and wake up around 1:30am and go to Help to see what I can bargain with as the night goes deeper.
Did this routine all this week and it works!!
Good Luck
Geo
Sunset Strip
08-16-09, 15:57
Greetings my fellow mongerers,
I'm going to be in Rio, Copa beach, in three days, for two weeks. I have studies all of 10 minutes of Brazilian Portuguese. yeah yeah,I know i'm lame. I speak fluent spanish though. I see prices that are all over the place for Garotas. What should I expect; since my Portuguese is gonna suck? My wing man has been studying pretty good. So, I'm hoping that I can get by with my spanish and his translations, if I need them. I've got about 10 yrs of mongering so, I know how to negociate. What do you think Bro's?
You should probably re-post in the general information section to get better responses.
Language will not be a barrier in Copacabana. Money runs things in Copa and money is universal. I have seen guys writing numbers on a napkin to negotitate. Since you do not speak Porto and have no reputation in Copa, you should stick to Geo's advice and just play the market to your advantage. Do not try to negotiate too hard, just get the price you want at the time you want. If late at night, for example, take the R150 price for 2 hours and let her walk home afterwards! Most likely you got all she was going to do anyway. You may miss out on a last session in the morning before she leaves, but ,I guess you get the point.
Prices are generally around the range Geo. stated.
I have posted some R50 all nighters here but that was from a private in call (I have never used an agency, though i might today). Once you have been here many, many, many, many, times you can just be blunt, to the point, and pay them a low rate. But these will be girls you have known for years (5 to 10 years in my case).
To any this may help: If interested in a cheaper trip I always tell guys from the US that you are much better off flying to San Diego on Southwest for $300, getting a nice hotel (the market is slow in CA) and making daily trips to Tijuana, where you can get girls from US20 short time to US$60 for an hour.
In Copa, just enjoy the atmosphere and relax. The price range you got from Geo, should be your guide. The main thing is to relax, not overpay, and not worry about what you do pay (sounds contradictory but you will see what I mean).
The girls here are more into sex than those in other places so in the end you always come out a winner.
TJ
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-16-09, 17:40
Much abliged GEO and TJ. Now I have a better perspective.
I'm a bit thrown off about paying $400R for one night with a chick unless she is Andressa Sores. After spending so much time in the DR I have grown accustom to chicas taking whatever you care to give them(just the Monger in me), usually no more than US$40.
Also, I imagine the quality of chica is going to be well worth the reais vs DR chicas?
I will take both of your advice and enjoy the atmosphere and hope to get lucky. I picked up a couple of snazzy new outfits with clean shoes hopefully I'll get a chicas attention
You should probably re-post in the general information section to get better responses.
Language will not be a barrier in Copacabana. Money runs things in Copa and money in universal. I have seen guys writing numbers on a napkin to negotitate. Since you do not speak Porto and have no reputation in Copa, you should stick to Geo's advice and just play the market to your advantage. Do not try to negotiate too hard, just get the price you want at the time you want. If late at night, for example, take the R150 price for 2 hours and let her walk home afterwards! Most likely you got all she was going to do anyway. You may miss out on a last session in the morning before she leaves, but ,I guess you get the point.
Prices are generally around the range Geo. stated.
I have posted some R50 all nighters here but that was from a private in call (I have never used an agency, though i might today). Once you have been here many, many, many, many, times you can just be blunt, to the point, and pay them a low rate. But these will be girls you have known for years (5 to 10 years in my case).
As always YMMV, but in general you get what you pay for. I do not advice guys to fly to Rio expecting to pay R50 all night. Nor do I advise them to visit the low budget casas unless they have made their way through Copa and just want a change of pace. It is not worth flying thousands of miles to go to these places, in general.
If interested in a cheaper trip I always tell guys from the US that you are much better off flying to San Diego on Southwest for $300, getting a nice hotel (the market is slow in CA) and making daily trips to Tijuana, where you can get girls from US20 short time to US$60 for an hour.
In Copa, just enjoy the atmosphere and relax. The price range you go from Geo, should be your guide. The main thing is to relax, not overpay, and not worry about what you do pay (sounds contradictory but you will see what I mean).
The girls here are more into sex than those in other places so in the end you always come out a winner.
TJ
There are women everywhere if your negotiating is a bust. No biggie. I went to the pharmacy today and was on line directly behind a working girl on her day off. It was so obvious she was a GDP. Sundays alot of the GDPs dont attend.
I made up a story that I wasnt feeling well and asked the girl on line if she could recomend a good Allergy pill. She giggled and brought me to the area where all the medicine is, we spoke a bit and I asked her if she would accompany me to a suco place for some juice. She smiled, we went, laughed and talked at the suco place and before I knew it I was nailing her rear 'de cuatro'' in a most pleasant way. She charged me R100 for the hour.
Point is, you find these girls everywhere!
P.S. Left my allergy pills at the suco place...lol
Geo
Interesting... I went to Centaurus armed only with the knowledge from Bwana guide and raised a bit of stink claiming that they charged me tourist prices (120 entry, 300 reals for 40 min) (the guides say something like 90/230) if memory serves me right. Now I'm searching through the posts to see what are `real' prices since I would like to know if I was overcharged or not.... can some of the experienced members answer this? - my first time in Rio.
Btw, as I was expressing my concerns about the pricing, they pulled out some printed sheet showing the prices that they charged me, and in addition another english-speaking client who was passing by mentioned that this was `the most transparent' place in Rio.... not exactly in accordance to what I'm reading in this forum. Well, he also mentioned that their prices could be different at different days of week... what a transparency!
I guess most of the people reading this forum won't agree, but in my limited experience, the average quality of girls in Centaurus is much higher than L'umo and MC.
The prices on that guide went up like 2 years ago to the price that you posted. I haven't been to that place in maybe 4 years or so. I'm not sure if there is or ever was a gringo price, but they definitely would charge gringos everything up front with no refund whether you get a girl or not. Some people used to get by just paying the entrada upfront if you were a regular, other than that they would not budge. I don't know if they have relaxed the rules since 2005, but I'm not willing to risk $420R to find out. Plus at the time their girls were not any better than the other termas imho.
Sunset Strip
08-17-09, 00:36
It is 8:20 pm Rio time and I just left Mabs. I sat there for about 3 hours drinking chopp (draft beer) and a free caphirina (national drink of Brazil, which is whiskey, sugar, and lime). I ignored 2 girls who tried to get my attention for 30 minutes by adjusting my IPOD whenever they looked my way.
They were sitting on the other side of Mabs and then got up and moved to a table by me. Trust me, they looked good in their shorts. Then one of my girls, a blonde, rode by on a bike she had rented. She told me she was looking for me (later confirmed by the apartment guard who handed me a note she had given him for me earlier).
The two girls had left and I ordered the #31 on the Mabs menu (R25), frango pihcharia (check spelling) and batatas (french fries). This is fried chicken and fries. The chicken does not have the crust American fried chicken had, it is just fried as is; a little healthier. Ask for pepper (pimento?) to go with it; Just place the juice on it.
Anyway, the blonde showed up and sat down. She ordered herself a beer (a bad sign) and ate a few pieces of chicken (they give you more than you can eat alone). We talked.
I was drunk, but on top of my GAME! I asked her how much. She replied, "you know." This meant the R200 she and others usually charge in Copa. I ordered another chopp and put my IPOD back in my ears. Then I told her NO!
I informed her that I had many girls who ask for r100, though you all know I often pay R50. I was trying to give her a chance to adjust the price.
She looked shocked and then sayed bye and left. I could care less, because I have game (not going to get into what this is but it has nothing to do with learning Porto or dancing in centro or Lapa.LOL!)
Oh yeah, before this happened she asked for the check from the waiter (again a bad sign as you should never let women dominate). He brought it with the beer and I gave him R100, for a 56R tab. He brought the change and I gave him 10R. She grabbed his hand and said let me see. SHe then said, "Oh, that is bus fare, why not taxi fare." These Copa girls can be disrespectful. At this point I would not have given her money to buy a condom!
I can jack off for less! And, I never allow people to disrespect me.
TJ
over your story..hey Me and Cho are meeting up for the first time at Balcony Bar at around 10pm tonight. Why not come and join us?
Geo
Sunset Strip
08-17-09, 00:52
over your story..hey Me and Cho are meeting up for the first time at Balcony Bar at around 10pm tonight. Why not come and join us?
Geo
Rio is a funny place and Copa provides funny stories everyday. I will try to make it to Balcony tonight.
I am not too far from it.
TJ
I just tried getting into GpGuia. I was using a proxy setting that had previously worked, and got a request for a Username and Password, (which I conveniently forgot.)
After changing the proxy settings, (and a bit of trial and error,) I was granted access to the site WITHOUT a Username and Password request.
Reason I went over there: I was looking to see if there were any post about Help's impending closure: I did not find any.
Here's where I find the proxy's:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-port-80.htm
Mr Enternational
08-17-09, 10:58
Much abliged GEO and TJ. Now I have a better perspective.
I'm a bit thrown off about paying $400R for one night with a chick unless she is Andressa Sores. After spending so much time in the DR I have grown accustom to chicas taking whatever you care to give them(just the Monger in me), usually no more than US$40.
Also, I imagine the quality of chica is going to be well worth the reais vs DR chicas?
I will take both of your advice and enjoy the atmosphere and hope to get lucky. I picked up a couple of snazzy new outfits with clean shoes hopefully I'll get a chicas attention
New shoes and outfits? Dude, Rio is a shorts and flip-flops town (same way I go to Classicos in Sosua since you mention DR). Not to mention, there is no need to get dressed up for hookers. New outfit or old rags, they are still going to want the same 200 reais from you.
Not to mention, there is no need to get dressed up for hookers. New outfit or old rags, they are still going to want the same 200 reais from you.:confused: Yeah heed the above advice lol. Otherwise they'll take whatever you care to give them in keeping with your expensive gringo threads!
Keep the nice outfits for non-GDP areas :)
I don't know DR but I suspect the scenes in Rio are more complex. Very big city. Lots of different scenes. Read the forum and Bubba's guide and have a great time. :)
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-17-09, 15:17
We all know if there is chemistry between you and the girl you are in for a hell of a time. If there is no chemistry then a mongerer would be better going home alone. We've all had a bad experience with a girl that only saw us a 45min job, we are, but she'll have more fun do'n her F'n job if she can find something about you she likes. I SPEAK ON MY EXPERIENCES ONLY! I'm not disputing the fact that money makes a w*hore's P&ussy wet, I'm just say'n, I'll see what happends.
Also, Mr. Enternational I don't only plan to bang hookers for 2weeks, I am planning to spend sometime with normal brazilians, see the country, see things that they don't have in the my city in the states and always be aware of dress codes at nice resturants or clubs. Hell! I might get a freebie when they see my schlong! I've got'n freebies out of Clasicos because a chica likes my style. Throw on a clean shirt and give it a try, you never no.
I will feel accomplished if I can bang normal chicks off of my smile, charm and clean shirt. Don't care for rags used as clothes often, so that ish is out.
Thanks for the reminder that they are all w*hores. Anything can be challenging until you figure it out.
: confused: errrmm yeah heed the above advice LOL. Otherwise they'll take whatever you care to give them in keeping with your expensive gringo threads!
Keep the nice outfits for non-GDP areas.
I don't know DR but I suspect the scenes in Rio are more complex. Very big city. Lots of different scenes. Read the forum and Bubba's guide and have a great time.
The prices on that guide went up like 2 years ago to the price that you posted. I haven't been to that place in maybe 4 years or so. I'm not sure if there is or ever was a gringo price, but they definitely would charge gringos everything up front with no refund whether you get a girl or not. Some people used to get by just paying the entrada upfront if you were a regular, other than that they would not budge. I don't know if they have relaxed the rules since 2005, but I'm not willing to risk $420R to find out. Plus at the time their girls were not any better than the other termas imho.In dec 2008 thru jan 2009 I only paid the entrance fee and payed later after I chose my girl
But you do pay before going to the cabine.
Sunset Strip
08-17-09, 23:50
Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN (take American/gringos anywhere). They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. He was yelling outside about how he "DID NOT COME A THOUSAND MILES TO SEE THIS." Ironically, this sounds just like the advice I gave newbies the other day.
New advice: stay your lame asses in Copa where you belong. These cats have never even heard of Luomo or Copa and they thought they were ready for BA85! Trust me newbies, stay in Copa. These newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
Anyway, I got drunk today and was, perhaps, not at the top of my game. I tried a girl I have seen before on floor one (I will get her name tomorrow). I paid R20 to the desk, then she begged 40R from me for a good BBBJ. Well, she sucked for 3 minutes tops then put the condom on. ***** (*sorry ADMIN).
Total today was R70. The newbies bought my beers, so that was good. Actually only one of them bought beers the others hung outside claiming they want to go to 4x4. Go ahead you suckers, pay 300R or whatever. Even when I get screwed over I still leave with hundreds of reals (plural incorrect) in my pockets. That's right, it's me!
TJ
there are going to be some interesting reports comming up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure
Rio nightclub closure leaves prostitutes Helpless
For decades it has been one of Rio de Janeiro's most notorious nightspots, a neon-lit colossus at the heart of Copacabana beach renowned as a meeting point for wealthy, sunburned tourists and scantily clad prostitutes.
After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup.
Rio's governor, Sergio Cabral, has unveiled a R$65m (£21m) plan to bulldoze the nightclub and replace it with a music-themed museum designed by the US architecture firm Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the same company that gave a facelift to New York's Lincoln Centre.
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city, which has also introduced pioneering policing initiatives in several slums including the City of God favela made famous by Fernando Meirelles's film.
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
He said: "What will happen is that many of the women who are currently 'freelancers' and use Help will be pushed to accept, to one degree or another, pimps as they will have to work the old traditional venues or the infinitely more dangerous street scene. This, of course, puts them and tourists more at risk for crime and violence."
Mr Enternational
08-18-09, 00:39
hung around copa today and took some black americans to ba 85. i will never do that again. they seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were a-holes. there was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in meia pataca. he walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. he was yelling outside about how he "did not come a thousand miles to see this." ironically, this sounds just like the advice i gave newbies the other day.
new advice: stay your lame asses in copa where you belong. these cats have never even heard of luomo or copa and they thought they were ready for ba85! trust me newbies, stay in copa. these newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
tj
lol. when thinking about attempting to monger with total strangers, especially those that you meet in copa, remember the immortal words of [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-wee herman, "i'm a loner dotty, a rebel." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklizztikrk -- [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-wee's big adventure (1985)
Mr Enternational
08-18-09, 00:45
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city,
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."
How smart is this guy. He's going to improve living conditions by putting 2000 people out of business. I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.
Sunset Strip
08-18-09, 00:51
lol. when thinking about attempting to monger with total strangers, especially those that you meet in copa, remember the immortal words of [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-wee herman, "i'm a loner dotty, a rebel." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklizztikrk -- [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-wee's big adventure (1985)
yeah, i screwed up big time! just like you and lots of others on this forum i have developed a good reputation. now, these gringos have hurt me! as you, mr. e, probably know, girls take notice of gringos who act as if they are too good to be in brazil.
i broke with those guys and hung out and will hit the spot everyday this week to make up for that mistake. but man, there was one girl who walked off from me!
anyway, i went to another spot and i just got the phone number of a girl who did a few scences with evasive angels and also some other stuff (latino oriented porn). she was speaking fast porto so i only caught parts. apparently, she either has a stomach ache or is pregnant, but she did not agree to come over tonight. she did give me her number and i also noticed her boss was watching and trying to listen. he knows whats' up! i think she was partly trying to avoid trouble. this is a regular retail store and girls can get in big trouble for "prostitution." no flames i already know this is a fact in this place.
she has my address and hopefully will use it tonight after work!
once i hook up i will post her full name and some details. she is real cute!
lol! yes, i have been holding out! i know where to find these girls!
tj
How smart is this guy. He's going to improve living conditions by putting 2000 people out of business. I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.
I know, how many people will spend money going to a musuem vs us mongers heading to Copa buying drinks, eating at restaurants, renting apts and hotels. I guess it was good while it lasted. At least we got the Terma's
I don't even use Help and won't miss it. I think the point about it harming girls is an important one, but not that any authorities would care. The 'innovative' police tactics is a howler. But I wish the Guardian wouldn't blow our cover to all those English intellectuals . . . :rolleyes:
After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup."28th is BS isn't it for closing? I thought it was Fall or something..Can anyone on the ground there confirm?
Man I arrive the 29th :(
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
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Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?
Gfe Finder
08-18-09, 04:37
Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes.
Your guests were out of line, and they should have had the patience to wander up to the 3rd floor where at least they might have kicked themselves for their unfortunate remarks.
Gfe Finder
08-18-09, 04:39
Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?
For some reason I think so, but he wasn't banned. ET surmised that once this academic was relegated to his own thread and no longer the center of attention he left of his own will.
Smooth Slim
08-18-09, 04:43
Hung around Copa today and took some black Americans to BA 85. I will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. They seemed cool at first but once we got there it was obvious some were A-holes. There was one handicapped guy in the bunch; you may have seen him in Meia Pataca. He walked out of the first floor without even really looking; the best girls are taken usually and you should wait a few minutes. He was yelling outside about how he "DID NOT COME A THOUSAND MILES TO SEE THIS." Ironically, this sounds just like the advice I gave newbies the other day.
New advice: stay your lame asses in Copa where you belong. These cats have never even heard of Luomo or Copa and they thought they were ready for BA85! Trust me newbies, stay in Copa. These newbies proved to me that you guys need hand holding!
Anyway, I got drunk today and was, perhaps, not at the top of my game. I tried a girl I have seen before on floor one (I will get her name tomorrow). I paid R20 to the desk, then she begged 40R from me for a good BBBJ. Well, she sucked for 3 minutes tops then put the condom on. ***** (*sorry ADMIN).
Total today was R70. The blacks bought my beers, so that was good. Actually only one of them bought beers the others hung outside claiming they want to go to 4x4. Go ahead you suckers, pay 300R or whatever. Even when I get screwed over I still leave with hundreds of reals (plural incorrect) in my pockets. That's right, it's me!
TJWow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.
I checked a minute ago and learned that an influx of money improves living conditions, not spending money to build a museum that probably won't make near as much as it is going to cost to build.
You should put things in perspective.
Influx of sex-tourism money counts for next to nothing in Brasilian touristic projects. Brasilian authorities have recently made of tourism one of their top-ten priorities by launching the second phase of the "Aquarela Plan" (O Plano Aquarela, a marketing plan to increase the flow of tourists to Brasil), which began in 2005, the goal being to double inbound tourism before 2015 and to place Brasil, now 35th, in the top-twenty world's top tourism destinations. An ambitious plan but without a doubt doable. FYI, according to the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO), about 6.5 million tourists have visited Brasil in 2007, which is an average of 18 000 arrivals per day, a number that given the fantastic touristic potential and the Aquarela Plan should logically grow in the post-crisis years. A huge source of income.
Anyhow it's not abberant to state that 90% of those 13 millions tourists expected each year will visit Copacabana, which is THE vitrine of Brasil (and no one in his right mind can really think that brasilian authorities want to see hoes, trannies, woremongers, faveladas, pimps, thieves, mobsters and other drug dealers spoil this vitrine BTW, so expect a deep cleaning of the whole area).
Now how many of them will visit the museum ? I'd bet on 10/15 %. Plus the national tourists (some 2.5 millions to Rio each year). Plus the Carioca locals (school visits, ect). Plus the Fluminenses wekenders. That makes a lot of people. And at something like 20 RS the entrance ticket, a lot of money.
Sunset Strip
08-18-09, 11:06
Wow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.
If you see my corresponding posts I refer to the newbies I took as gringos, period. That was the problem, they acted like disrespectful gringos! I did mention their race as a description, at first, so they and others would know who I am talking about, without mentioning names.
They were disrespectful and I used that post primarily as a means to inform them. Notice, I ended with "yeah, it's me."
No I am not writing off a race, but if I had not added American blacks, I doubt they would have known it was them because they obviously had no clue what they did was not 100% kosher. Most gringos in Rio are not black, so to just mention disrespectful gringo behavior might not have done the trick. I COULD have mentioned some other things they did to make sure they knew it was them, but then, trust me, it would have really looked bad. So instead I mentioned the central issue and labeled them black AMERICANS (which sizes the number down considerably). After that post I referred to them as GRINGOS, which you obviously missed!
Also, I never said I would have nothing to do with black Americans.
P.S. Since you are so politically correct, I think we need to discuss your handle, "Iceberg Slim." You see Iceberg Slim is a well known convicted felon who abused women. Slim wrote a book detaling how he beat women ruthlessly, using such intstruments as wire coat hangers! So perhaps you need to critique what your handle says rather try to find racism where there is none!
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-18-09, 11:14
Yeah, I screwed up big time! Just like you and lots of others on this forum I have developed a good reputation. Now, these gringos have hurt me! As you, Mr. E, probably know, girls take notice of gringos who act as if they are too good to be in Brazil.
I broke with those guys and hung out and will hit the spot everyday this week to make up for that mistake. But man, there was one girl who walked off from me!
TJ
Slim,
Just in case you did not notice, I used American blacks and gringos interchangeably. So your post is a bit off base, though well-intentioned. You critique one of my posts with a fine-tooth comb then ignore the very next one where I call them gringos. If you had noticed this, then you would have seen your post was irrelevant.
Actuallly, it is gramatically correct to mantain the same subject. That is the only reason why I, late in the post,referred to "one other blacks," or whatever and not "the guys." Plus, "the guys" makes them sound like buddies!
Thanks for your response but it seems you are being critical for no reason. You yourself miss my use of American black and gringo interchangeably, yet get picky over smaller issues.
Most regulars on here know that I am racially sensitive. Again, I mentioned their race initially to ensure they knew who they were.
And, by the way, YOU start bringing up WHITE PEOPLE, not me. Whether you know it or not YOU need to take that out of your post because that is racially insensitive. I mentioned blacks for a reason. But you bring up WHITES when nobody said anything about them. Obviously YOU have some racial baggage and trust me, it is silly to try to apply it to me.
And just so YOU know it, though most already do, I AM NOT WHITE!
P.S. I just noticed from reading my post, as quoted by another person prior to your diatribe, that I SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS SOME of them were a-holes. So, again, you are splitting hairs here and proving you have some issues not me. If a person says some blacks in a group of blacks are a-holes, does he really need YOU to provide multicultural training? Dude you are way off base, though I think you meant well.
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-18-09, 11:25
After I got back from centro last night, I hit the retail place where I got the number of a very cute girl who has done quite a bit of American porn.
Then I sat down, typed a trip report here and received a call from the private in-call (R50 all night) I had two days ago. She wanted to come over and spend the night.
I said yes, then jumped in the shower. Suddenly she was at the door. I mean she must have been right outside. I was stilll in the shower, had the ISG forum still up on the computer, and the other girl's number right on the table.
I cleared all of this up and let her in. But with all of this rushing and the stress caused by the GRINGOS I took to centro earlier, I got sick.
She came in and began cooking food ,which made things worse.
My head and stomach hurt. Here I was with an all nighter for R50 and all I could do was throw up, which I did. Man I got sick all over the place.
She was nice and brought me pillows and water and offered to buy me some green tea. I just told her to leave and come back tomorrow.
I feel better today and will hit centro early, come back to put my bid in with the cute porno girl, and then drinks at Mabs.
TJ
Is this Macuminca that was banned from the board?
Thats him.
28th is BS isn't it for closing? I thought it was Fall or something..Can anyone on the ground there confirm?
Man I arrive the 29th :(
I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-18-09, 19:43
Geetings Fellow Mongerers,
That sucks.
I wonder if anyone has any predictions on how scene dynamic will change. From what I hear "Help" is a place that Mongerers can have there pick of GDP and Non-pro's. My Visa is good for 5yrs, I'd like to revist the land of bunda's one more time before I die.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/rio-help-nightclub-closure
Rio nightclub closure leaves prostitutes Helpless
For decades it has been one of Rio de Janeiro's most notorious nightspots, a neon-lit colossus at the heart of Copacabana beach renowned as a meeting point for wealthy, sunburned tourists and scantily clad prostitutes.
After 25 years of late nights and throbbing hangovers, the dancefloor of the Help discotheque is set to host its last party on Friday 28 August, as the government moves to clean up the city before Brazil hosts the 2014 World Cup.
Rio's governor, Sergio Cabral, has unveiled a R$65m (£21m) plan to bulldoze the nightclub and replace it with a music-themed museum designed by the US architecture firm Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the same company that gave a facelift to New York's Lincoln Centre.
Cabral, who is campaigning to bring the 2016 Olympics to Rio, says the museum is part of a drive to improve living conditions in the city, which has also introduced pioneering policing initiatives in several slums including the City of God favela made famous by Fernando Meirelles's film.
News of Help's imminent closure has gone down badly among the estimated 2,000 freelance prostitutes who use the club for business, often to support their families. "We only use the club to meet clients. This is not a crime. All we do here is dance and have fun," Patricia Alcantara, 30, told the Rio newspaper O Dia. "With the closure of Help we will have to go on to the streets."
Thaddeus Blanchette, a north American anthropologist who has written extensively on the club, said closing it would not reduce levels of sex tourism but would make the prostitutes' lives "more complicated and, ultimately, dangerous".
He said: "What will happen is that many of the women who are currently 'freelancers' and use Help will be pushed to accept, to one degree or another, pimps as they will have to work the old traditional venues or the infinitely more dangerous street scene. This, of course, puts them and tourists more at risk for crime and violence."
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-18-09, 19:58
Yes they are all the same, and they have tails too( Rolling my eye and sucking my teeth) right...? When we Americans leave the country (US) we are all one color GREEN!
Wow. I've met some obnoxious people.- both white and black.- but I wouldn't I would write off a race because of a few folks without class.
It sounds like some in the group showed a lack of class once you hit your spot. Whenever I introduce someone to new to the scene to a new place, I never take their dislike personally. I try to gauge their likes and dislikes before I take them. If it turns out I was off base, then so be it.
Again, I am not condoning behavior that is rude and disrespectful. A person standing outside yell inconsiderate comments is just stupid.
Also couldn't you have said the guys bought my beers, instead of blacks. Again, at least one of the people you met seemed to exhibit manners.
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 00:07
Centro casas were dead this morning then they picked up. I got to BA 85 around noon and almost had to bang one of the counter women. I did get a good grab of the ass of one of them (NO NOT THE OLDER LATER ON FLOOR 1!).
I did three garotas today. There is a tight, little skinny girl on floor 1 named Patricia. That stuff is snugg and tight. Be sure to bring at least 2 condoms because you are going to break one getting into that stuff. By the way she acted I think she is used to that happening.
Nice face, she wears BRACES!
I also did a bigger girl on floor 1. This one is very aggresive and has a tatoo of a man or boy on her arm. The name begins with a D. AVOID HER. I will get her name tomorrow. She got me on the cabin and every time I began stroking she would stop me and ask me to do an hour long session. Then when I made it clear I was not for that she started talking some crap about how she needed money because she cannot work tomorrow. Why, I asked. She then proceeded to show me a where she had had a tooth pulled and said she had an appointment I know it is BS, especially given she showed me an already pulled tooth!
Although I had paid 20 minutes (R20) I told her to F-off and started getting dressed. She begged me not to leave and then whispered that I better not talk bad about her to the other girls. I told her to f-off and gave her a middle finger as I walked out. Apparently Brazilians understand the middle finger based on their reactions.
later I sessioned with Suzy, a dark black girl on floor 3. She always stands outside floor 3. Nice round butt, good wet snatch. I wiould do her again. However, once I was done she asked for a tip, I ignored her. Just do the same. She spoke Porto and then said "money, please," in English. Just ignore her. She walked out and sat down. Now that I think about it the desk woman probably thought I bought 15 minutes, not 20 (R20) and gave Suzy R5 in change that she kept.
I just sent a text to my little porn queen...
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 00:12
Your guests were out of line, and they should have had the patience to wander up to the 3rd floor where at least they might have kicked themselves for their unfortunate remarks.
They are once a year guys so it will be awhile before they go back, I am sure. But one day they will and they will kick themselves for missing out on this cheap, relatively quality stuff in some centro casas.
In my report, I also could have mentioned the shoving match they got into with some young Brazilian guys and some women on the metro. I take the metro all the time with no incidents. This was their first times and they basically get into a fight!
TJ
I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??
I'm on an email chain right now, bunch of guys going back and forth about Help closing. Guys who know Rio, guys who have lived in Rio for many years and have done business in Brazil.
One guy today says Help is a done deal and they have to vacate the premises by Oct 1 and he knows where they are relocating to in Copa.
Unfortunately this is all he says, I asked him where in Copa, is it the Bingo Arpoador? Lets see if he responds or not.
The current layout with the restaurant out front and the club inside was a perfect combination of things, some liked to hang outside and others inside, I like to do both. Some nights I would arrive at Terraco Atlantico at 11 pm or midnight, have a light dinner, some chopps, talk to some of the girls walking around and then meet some inside when I was finished with my dinner. It was a perfect setup.
Lets hope if there is a replacement locatiion the setup is just as good.
I have a ticket for September. :( The article seems legit. Not sure where the action is going to move to after Help closes??The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)
For some reason I think so, but he wasn't banned. ET surmised that once this academic was relegated to his own thread and no longer the center of attention he left of his own will.See Macunaima in Brazil (not Macuminca).
JohnnyBraz
08-19-09, 10:01
The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)I am going to fly out to Rio in the next week. Just incase help does close. Probably stay the month off September. 3rd trip in 4 months. Just want to be there when help closes. I think most girls will head to balconey when it closes.
The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)I would imagine the entire area will be a major construction site (demolition, dust, noise, etc.) and businesses in the immediate area like TA will be hurt.
The tables at Terraco Atlantico will be jumping if no Helpe. Maybe they can set up a band outside on the deck there :)
If Help closes so does Terraco Atlantico, the whole place is going, it's all part of the same problem. Just take a look at the artists rendition, TA is gone, wiped out, doesn't exist anymore, bye bye.
Mr Enternational
08-19-09, 14:48
I arrived at BA 85 about 12:30. I usually deal with thick girls but I had made my mind up that I would find a spinner today. As soon as I got up to the first floor I saw Patricia in the corner. She has a star tattoo with the letters KJ on her left shoulder and braces in her mouth. From the start I knew she was the one I would be taking...After 2 minutes of quatro I took a look at her gaping pussy. I was in hog heaven.
I did three garotas today. There is a tight, little skinny girl on floor 1 named Patricia. That stuff is snugg and tight. Be sure to bring at least 2 condoms because you are going to break one getting into that stuff. By the way she acted I think she is used to that happening.
Nice face, she wears BRACES!
Hey man. Stop fucking my girl!
Mr Enternational
08-19-09, 15:00
P.S. Since you are so politically correct, I think we need to discuss your handle, "Iceberg Slim." You see Iceberg Slim is a well known convicted felon who abused women. Slim wrote a book detaling how he beat women ruthlessly, using such intstruments as wire coat hangers! So perhaps you need to critique what your handle says rather try to find racism where there is none!
That is a trip. In my eighth grade Advanced English class I did a report and presentation on his book Trick Baby. Just think of a 13 year old black kid in a room full of white kids doing a presentation on pimps, hos, and tricks. I bet that was the last time that teacher let students choose their own books.
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 15:19
Hey man. Stop fucking my girl!
Ah, man. I thought she looked and sounded familiar.
My bad. Then again, better me than somebody else!
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 15:20
That is a trip. In my eighth grade Advanced English class I did a report and presentation on his book Trick Baby. Just think of a 13 year old black kid in a room full of white kids doing a presentation on pimps, hos, and tricks. I bet that was the last time that teacher let students choose their own books.
No you DIDN'T!
I know you scared those folks!
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 21:36
Went to centro bright and early today. I was there by 12:30. There was a guy working the desk on the 4th floor so no ass grabs for me (the desk madam was running late I would find out).
The black girl with curly hair was there. I do not know her name. She always wears a short skirt (with no panties). Actually, it is not even a skirt but something many women wear above a thong or to the beach or to bed on Valentines!
She bent over and showed me her butt (hole)! I said 15 minutes and she said let's go. I gave the desk guy R15 and we (the the girl and I) went into the back. She bent over and stuck my member between her butt crack and gave me a good 5 mintute grind. A hornier man might have achieved an orgasm.
She then slapped a condom on me and gave a hard BJ followed by doggie style sex. She was not too loose, but not too tight. A good fit.
I came in about 7 minutes.
She constantly has business and looks like a black college girl. Actually, I have seen her and another girl up there show up with their books. They are often late.
I sat down and had a beer. A white gringo wearing cowboy boots came in with another guy. They ledt and went to the 5th floor.
After the beer I went to floor 1 where they always have lots of girls. Patricia, the skinny girl from yesterday, waved at me. They know I am too cool for that kissing in public crap Brazilians do!
I had to wait around 30 minutes to get ready for more sex and then took Patricia back (R15). She was just as tight as yesterday, though I did not break the condom (most likely because I was more aware of the possibilty). It took around 20 minutes to get an orgasm but well worth it. She makes sure you get your money's worth!
Outside the cabin I hear the big girl with the tatoo on her arm (it is a tatoo of a name starting with a D) yelling about "5 reals" A guy was trying to get away from her (as I had yesterday). He got passed her by circling arounf Patricia and then me. The big girl grabbed my shoulders and yelled some crap about 5 reals. I looked at her as if she were crazy, which she is. patricia laughed, but I did not. This woman is crazy! Avoid her. It is obvious that she pulls scams on all her customers.
Sunset Strip
08-19-09, 21:46
I have gotten quite a few pm's about BA 85 and centro:
1. I like the way the first floor madam rings the bell to get the girls up and dancing when they get lazy.
2. Centro casas are nice because you do meet people there who do not want you for your money. The guy who sells the gum outside the front of BA85 always speaks to me. He even came up and spoke when I saw him on the metro yesterday.
3. BA 85 is worth the money. No cover charge. You can hang out and drink soda or beer. Sex sessions begin at R15 for 15 mintutes. If you do not have fun, you are not out much money at all. In Copa you can blow R200-300 on the wrong woman easily. The girls are not all model quality, some are, however. You have all types.
4. The music in BA85 is the latest of carioca funk. On Saturdays they really play the new stuff on floor 1 (the blond from floor 3 works the desk on floor 1 on saturdays).
5. You can check in for your return flight by computer for most airlines a day in advance. I would do so just to be on the safe side. Also, I have gotten the first class upgrade when I checked in early but never when I wait to get to the airport.
TJ
I have gotten quite a few pm's about BA 85 and centro:
TJRarely have I seen one guy prompt so many posts as you have on this trip TJFan. Well done - most entertaining. I hope you had as much fun "playing" as I did reading about it. Thanks for the effort of diligently posting just about every day! What a trooper.
If Help closes so does Terraco Atlantico, the whole place is going, it's all part of the same problem. Just take a look at the artists rendition, TA is gone, wiped out, doesn't exist anymore, bye bye.Artist rendering means nothing. TA is a seperately run business from Help. But construction and closer policing can radically change the afternoon business there for sure.
I have also read that Help is relocating to the Bingo place (wherever that is) - It's on Trip Adviser. What a shame, I thought I would make it before it closes, but if it is open late Oct it would be a miracle - I'm going to church every Sunday till then.... LOL !
Last few days going back and forth to Centro. I always buy a card and put the max R12 on it since I am afraid of losing the Metro Card with alot of trips on it.
Whatever you do, if you plan on leaving Centro around 5pm or 6 pm, make sure you have enough on your card for your trip back. The lines are into the next zip code during rush hour at the teller window if you need to refill. Happened to me twice already.
Also, after a few days of using the same Metro Card, get yourself a new fresh card when done. The scanner doesnt read it well for some reason after a few days.
Geo
Last few days going back and forth to Centro. I always buy a card and put the max R12 on it since I am afraid of losing the Metro Card with alot of trips on it.
Whatever you do, if you plan on leaving Centro around 5pm or 6 pm, make sure you have enough on your card for your trip back. The lines are into the next zip code during rush hour at the teller window if you need to refill. Happened to me twice already.
Also, after a few days of using the same Metro Card, get yourself a new fresh card when done. The scanner doesnt read it well for some reason after a few days.
Geo
Useful stuff - working the system out at short notice can be a bummer :(. If you've not been for a few years, it's all changed.
Another thing is the single tickets. You can't just buy a wad for when you need them and use them like the old multiticket. They run out after I think it is 3 days. After that you can only trade them in.
On 25 august at Solarium, I guess a good reason to go there :)
Been there twice this week. After speaking to alot of the girls, it appears that certain girls there are starting to mark their territory to set themselves up to when Help closes. I confirmed this with 6 girls already. There seems to be alot of catfighting these days for territory at places. Some of the same girls sit on the same ledge of Balcony night after night. This will defintely replace Help in due time, I can see it coming. Clientel in here appears to be very old as well. I see very few young guys walking in and out these nights. Alot of elderly men strolling in looking for a hottie for the night.
Geo
Let's not forget Alcazar. It was once a GDP pick up place many years ago. It's much like Mab's and Meia Pattaca.
Alcazar: Av Atlântica, 3530, Copacabana
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-20-09, 17:56
I feel good. Just arrived in the APT. In copa footsteps from the beach. Its cold and windy outside. Thank goodness it stopped raining but, I don't give a S*$T because my wingman and I got a BAD ass Penthouse footsteps from the beach for cheap. About to jump in the shower and hit a Terma.
Have been speaking a litte spanish I have been understood but, understanding the Porto is a no go. More later.
Who wants to get a drink?
Sunset Strip
08-20-09, 21:13
Rarely have I seen one guy prompt so many posts as you have on this trip TJFan. Well done - most entertaining. I hope you had as much fun "playing" as I did reading about it. Thanks for the effort of diligently posting just about every day! What a trooper.
Thanks, and yes I did have fun, both with the girls and posting reports on the forum.
TJ
Artist rendering means nothing. TA is a seperately run business from Help. But construction and closer policing can radically change the afternoon business there for sure.
Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.
2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
Geo
Member #3439
08-21-09, 02:53
2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
GeoPlease confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.
Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.When news came out that the State wanted to appropriate Help, It was rumored that Help's owners would open a club in the Aporador Bingo building. The State took steps and secured that building, so it's not available.
In one of the those news reports, (don't recall which one at the moment,) Help's ownership stated they would NOT be opening another Club. Perhaps a ruse to keep the State off their backs.
Artist rendering does mean nothing, you're right but I was just using it as an example, from what I have read in the previous 3 years about Help closing it includes all the property including Terraco Atlantico.
If it is Bingo Arpoador I think that will be a good move because I heard it is huge inside and multiple floors, so with a lot of money they can turn that into some place. I did see it under construction this past July, Help management has had a heads up on this for quite some time but the neighbors and the government don't want them to go there either but it would be a perfect spot.I never heard or read anything about surrounding businesses being shut down too. But, certainly construction will make a noisy mess of that area for the next several years.
Please confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.
Rua do Ouvidor 130:
I like going to #707. Just watch which elevator you are taking and that it stops on the 7 floor (andar).
There is a tall mulata in there I session with. Absolutly beautiful. All the girls in there are very friendly.
I remember the other day and asking for a Duplas. I was with Cho. They quoted me 40R fo the hour, however you can only pop one time. This is something to do when you are out of gas and stop here later. It will take you a while to pop...so you will get your money worth.
Geo
Please confirm the location of 130 Ouvidor. When headed toward you station on Rua Uruguaiana, turn right on Ouvidor and it's on the right side of the street, correct?
I was at that location on Jun-30, the door was down, and it had a sign saying that it had relocated, call tel. # for new address. Maybe it's under new ownership. Or I was at the wrong place.
What was the rate at 130 Ouvidor? I was disappointed to find (or not) this placed closed when I was looking for it. As I remember, it was supposed to be dirt cheap per Sperto's list.
Rua do Ouvidor, sala 707.
It was open in March. I have no ideia if it has closed by now.
R$ 20 for a session with one pop and unlimited time.
I recommend Kelly.
Smooth Slim
08-22-09, 16:58
Slim,
Just in case you did not notice, I used American blacks and gringos interchangeably. So your post is a bit off base, though well-intentioned. You critique one of my posts with a fine-tooth comb then ignore the very next one where I call them gringos. If you had noticed this, then you would have seen your post was irrelevant.
Actuallly, it is gramatically correct to mantain the same subject. That is the only reason why I, late in the post,referred to "one other blacks," or whatever and not "the guys." Plus, "the guys" makes them sound like buddies!
Thanks for your response but it seems you are being critical for no reason. You yourself miss my use of American black and gringo interchangeably, yet get picky over smaller issues.
Most regulars on here know that I am racially sensitive. Again, I mentioned their race initially to ensure they knew who they were.
And, by the way, YOU start bringing up WHITE PEOPLE, not me. Whether you know it or not YOU need to take that out of your post because that is racially insensitive. I mentioned blacks for a reason. But you bring up WHITES when nobody said anything about them. Obviously YOU have some racial baggage and trust me, it is silly to try to apply it to me.
And just so YOU know it, though most already do, I AM NOT WHITE!
P.S. I just noticed from reading my post, as quoted by another person prior to your diatribe, that I SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS SOME of them were a-holes. So, again, you are splitting hairs here and proving you have some issues not me. If a person says some blacks in a group of blacks are a-holes, does he really need YOU to provide multicultural training? Dude you are way off base, though I think you meant well.
TJTijuana,
I didn't see your use of blacks, newbies and gringos as interchangeable. This is a point I think will be lost on some of the newer forum users. Only history on the board corrects that.
I didn't mean the post as a personal attack on you and I think you see that.
Just thought the race description was not necessary, mainly because of how I read the forum and process information for use. When I'm in Rio, I'm usually running around so I don't read the forum. So I mainly read the forum when not in Rio and increasingly more as I near a trip. I read posts from the approach of lessons learned, not for information I will apply in the moment. So from my perspective I was looking at the larger lesson. If you read the forum for immediate application, then a racial ID would help those who wanted to avoid that particular group of guys. Again, I wasn't reading it that way.
Yes, I'm familiar with the life of Robert Beck, aka Iceberg Slim. He chronicled his life in the streets, the culture of the street, not in an attempt glorify or justify what he did. I happen to find the stories informative on how that culture exists and continues to exist. Lest you think I condone, the brutality of pimping, I don't.
i never heard or read anything about surrounding businesses being shut down too. but, certainly construction will make a noisy mess of that area for the next several years.
ok then read the attached article, i'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
besides help, there are two restaurants doing business in the same location to be expropriated: terraço atlântico and sobre as ondas (over the waves).
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__h8efddqt3umgan9nbgpfotx6wmm=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=sumrlghxoiswjm:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3fq%3dhelp%2bdiscoteca%26gbv%3d2%26ndsp%3d18%26hl%3den%26sa%3dn%26start%3d90
has anybody ever been to sobre as ondas when it was actually open? i mean now it is part of help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. i went one night with a girl i met from help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. they had live music playing all of the old brazilian songs, this girl i was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in help to make ends meet.
but anyway it was an interesting place because what i had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in help. i guess i was out of place there.
expropriation refers to confirep001ion of private property with the stated purpose of establishing social equality.
it is similar to what we call here in the us eminent domain.
Ok then read the attached article, I'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__H8EFdDQT3Umgan9nbGpfOtX6wmM=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=suMrlghxoIswjM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhelp%2Bdiscoteca%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D90
Has anybody ever been to Sobre as Ondas when it was actually open? I mean now it is part of Help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. I went one night with a girl I met from Help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. They had live music playing all of the old Brazilian songs, this girl I was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in Help to make ends meet.
But anyway it was an interesting place because what I had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in Help. I guess I was out of place there.You bet - it was my first night in Rio back in 1992. Well, first weekend to tell the truth. I had just moved into an apartment in Alto Leblon and my neighbors invited me out for the evening. It started with an Elba concert at Cancao, dinner somewhere in Botafogo till 2:00 AM and then dancing at Sobre as Ondas until 5:00 AM. Went home with a little blond beauty (freebie). Thought I died and went to heaven. Took me almost a YEAR to figure out that HELP even existed as it does today. I thought it was just a bopper club for teen type dancing (Doh!!!!) Sobre as Ondas had a great live band that played an amazing range of music form Top 40 to Samaba and Salsa. The place was fabulous. You could tell that about 30% of the girls there were working but they weren't the piranhas that you have today. They were immaculately dressed and sat drinking or smoking waiting to be asked to dance. Not at all trashy. Looking at them you would have thought they were just local socialites coming for a drink. It was a very sophisticated crowd (mostly well-to-do locals) and gentlemen ha to wear a jacket. Very classy atmosphere. It was the closest I ever got to what I thought was the "old Rio" that was portrayed in the movies. Management tried very hard to keep that look and feel and maintain a very classy and genteel environment. Went back a few more times during the two years I lived there. Seems like a million years ago now.......
Does anyone actually have a date for when HELPs last night will be?
I will be in Rio in December, but sadly I think this will be too late
Andy
ok then read the attached article, i'll even cut and paste the sentence for you:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/images/stories/2008/feb08/help.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9097/&usg=__h8efddqt3umgan9nbgpfotx6wmm=&h=90&w=90&sz=3&hl=en&start=104&tbnid=sumrlghxoiswjm:&tbnh=78&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3fq%3dhelp%2bdiscoteca%26gbv%3d2%26ndsp%3d18%26hl%3den%26sa%3dn%26start%3d90
has anybody ever been to sobre as ondas when it was actually open? i mean now it is part of help, thats where their outdoor balcony now is. i went one night with a girl i met from help probably back in 2001, she liked to go here, we went for dinner. they had live music playing all of the old brazilian songs, this girl i was with sang every song and knew every word, she was actually a nice girl but same old story worked in help to make ends meet.
but anyway it was an interesting place because what i had noticed was that majority of the patrons were old women with young men, the men must have been escorts for these wealthy older women, it was very strange, sort of the opposite of what was going on next door in help. i guess i was out of place there.
expropriation refers to confirep001ion of private property with the stated purpose of establishing social equality.
it is similar to what we call here in the us eminent domain.
sang, thanks for the link. will be interesting to see how all this shifts the scene in rio. i never used help or frequented ta to meet ladies. after reading much great advice here, i viewed them as tourist traps with inflated pricing. i think outgoing guys and entrepreunial ladies will do fine hooking up post-help. and as others have suggested here - help probably inflated prices as all the ladies were together and discussed "pricing".
the old clubs in rio sounded like they were classy and a great deal of fun. i am studying porto like crazy now for my upcoming trips. i am putting in the time and i believe this will open a whole new world for me there.
I feel good. Just arrived in the APT. In copa footsteps from the beach. Its cold and windy outside. Thank goodness it stopped raining but, I don't give a S*$T because my wingman and I got a BAD ass Penthouse footsteps from the beach for cheap. About to jump in the shower and hit a Terma.
Have been speaking a litte spanish I have been understood but, understanding the Porto is a no go. More later.
Who wants to get a drink?
Hey Big guy,
Was nice meeting you and your wing man at 4X4 on Friday night. Sorry couldn't say good bye before you left, that girl I left with worked me out hard. She was a real monster.
Good to see you and I hope our paths cross again in Brazil or the DR.
Cheers
A158
2114:
Headed back today for another session with Suaney. She is incredible. R100 for the hour and gave every bit of good effort possible!! Love this place!!
130 Ouvidor is another place I like. Talent of women of my type are exactly that!
Rainy day today in Rio, great to go Centro Casa hunting!
Geo
Hey Geofagus,
This place was my first ever session at Rio. Went there with Rodeo9112 and hit an awesome girl for a 40 minute session. It was a good warm up for the night events at 4X4 later that night
Cheers
A158
Mr Enternational
08-23-09, 21:06
Ill tell the other 5000 members of the Black MBA Association that also as well!
You only have to tell the other 4999 because I just read it for myself!
Member #4643
08-24-09, 00:08
I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest
Wow!
Based on what you just typed I should throw my MBA and CPA in the trash fire all 10 white people I just hired and buy some gold chains and become a pimp. Resign my post as member of the three bank boards im on and just smoke crack? Ill tell the other 5000 members of the Black MBA Association that also as well!
Wow O Wow in 2009 we get this shit!
LOL!!!!! Some of these guys wish it was still like 1909. Oh well gotta go hit my pipe and check on my ho's. LOL.
These guys are a joke.
Just got back from Rio. Last Weds, hit LM. It was already a beef-fest at 1630. Crowd of Italians. Pulled Shayla, the tall one. She was a good performer with an attitude to match.
BTW, while enroute to GIG, my driver stated that it was the final week for Help. I could not confirm this. JFYI, I have used him as a driver for the past 7 years.
Will write more at later time. Gotta work amanha. Cheers.
I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest
You don't need to search long. Most of the girls do this thing. Heck, many of them are into girls in their spare time, and they will like getting frisky with your GF more than with you. Just ask, and more likely than not the answer will be an enthusiastic yes.
Just got back from Rio. Last Weds, hit LM. OK you got me on that abbreviation - is LM Luomo?
I sure hope the Italians are gone by the 29th.
Bad Boy Billy
08-24-09, 23:32
no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)
Member #4643
08-25-09, 00:56
You don't need to search long. Most of the girls do this thing. Heck, many of them are into girls in their spare time, and they will like getting frisky with your GF more than with you. Just ask, and more likely than not the answer will be an enthusiastic yes.
Of course, its no hard to find a GDP here who will go down on my girlfriend. I have been coming to Brazil 10+ times a year since 2002, and I know the scene well.
However, hunting through HELP or sitting in Maia Pateca is not what I am want to do. I want a recommendation from someone who knows the girl is really bi and is really "nice" (i.e., carinhosa). I have given out plenty of names and telephone numbers to my fellow mongerers to say that I am not asking for too much.
Forest
Charlie Horse
08-25-09, 01:21
no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)
the latest dept from lax that i can find to arrive on the 16th is co594 via iah it departs at 14:25 so you would need to be in lax by noon. can you get to iah for the 21:15 departure?
no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)
catch mexicana 905 from lax at 5:55 pm to mexico city (mex) with scheduled arrival at 11:35 pm.
then catch mexicana flight 375 from mexico city to caracas (ccs) at 01:05 am on sept 16th arriving at 6:30 am
then catch tam flight 8051 from caracas (ccs) at 10:20 am to sao paulo which continues on to rio de janeiro arriving at 7:20 pm.
Catch Mexicana 905 from LAX at 5:55 PM to Mexico City (MEX) with scheduled arrival at 11:35 PM.
Then catch Mexicana flight 375 from Mexico City to Caracas (CCS) at 01:05 AM on Sept 16th arriving at 6:30 AM
Then catch TAM flight 8051 from Caracas (CCS) at 10:20 AM to Sao Paulo which continues on to Rio de Janeiro arriving at 7:20 PM.
Yes - you can do it Billy.
I went on expedia and broke it into two flights.
LAX to Caracas (specify Mexicana Airlines under expanded options)
It will cost you $1,050 and arrives at 6:30 AM.
The second flight is from Caracas to Rio on TAM 8051 for $455 and does not leave Caracas until 10:20 AM so you have plenty of time to re-check in. A visa is not required for US citizens carrying a valid passport.
no not the bar helpeeee................billy has a dilemna.
as a result of a fucked up plane scheduling change i now arrive lax at 16.30 on sept 15.
i cannot for the life of me find any airlines / connections that will get me out of lax and on the way to gig at that time of afternoon / evening so i can arrive on sept 16.
would appreciate any advice from any of you rio sexperts.
(posted in travel plans thread also)
bad boy billy
unless money is not an issue and you can take all these funky connections, you are pretty much f.u.c.k.e.d. sorry but this is life. why not take it easy and wait in la and leave on the 16th aa 1520 lax to mia at 12:10 pm and aa 905 mia gig leaving at 11:10 pm arriving gig at 8:50 am.
yes you are arriving 1/2 a day later, but is one smooth shot, one airline, and decent planes. as far as service goes, if you are in business or first class you have it made, otherwise, you are f.u.c.k.e.d again ...sorry but this is us airlines for you.
cheers
a158
Bad Boy Billy
08-25-09, 04:01
Unless money is not an issue and you can take all these funky connections, you are pretty much f.u.c.k.e.d. Sorry but this is life. Why not take it easy and wait in LA and leave on the 16th AA 1520 LAX to MIA at 12:10 PM and AA 905 MIA GIG leaving at 11:10 PM arriving GIG at 8:50 AM.
Yes you are arriving 1/2 a day later, but is one smooth shot, one airline, and decent planes. As far as service goes, if you are in Business or first class you have it made, otherwise, you are f.u.c.k.e.d again ...sorry but this is US airlines for you.Yeah it is kinda difficult - am doing the Melbourne - LAX / LAX - MEL legs on miles - so not so much flexibility.
Yes the overnight in LA has been suggested - was just trying to avoid that.
Poucolouco
08-25-09, 04:08
Yeah it is kinda difficult - am doing the Melbourne - LAX / LAX - MEL legs on miles - so not so much flexibility.
Yes the overnight in LA has been suggested - was just trying to avoid that.
You may fly free to LA but for the added round trip cost of LA to Rio through all the funky connections, you would be better off saving your miles and paying for direct flights from Sydney to Rio.
Bad Boy Billy
08-25-09, 05:27
You may fly free to LA but for the added round trip cost of LA to Rio through all the funky connections, you would be better off saving your miles and paying for direct flights from Sydney to Rio.
Have to route throgh LAX as I have a trade show in Las Vegas to attend on way home.
Poucolouco
08-25-09, 06:06
Have to route throgh LAX as I have a trade show in Las Vegas to attend on way home.Is this a test? You keep adding new dimensions.
Green Banana
08-25-09, 22:41
Hmm. Sounds like this forum is no more the virtual bar of good tricks it used to be. Too bad.
Yes, it may suck to enter MC or LM and find a gang of 10+ noisy, shouty, heavy US citizens, acting as invaders and treating the girls as cattle. One of the ladies, not the ugliest nor the worst lay in town, told me last week: 'these americans believe they are in rodeo and we are the horses- I don't want to go with them anymore'. Take care, folks, you may soon be blacklisted at the entrance!
A word about ladies: at MC, Sarah will be perfect for those who want a solid if not exactly subtle meçtiza shouting the good old 'caralho, fode filho de puto, fode o meu cul, etc.', completa, deep throat. Yvonnne (? ), 27, is good and completely open minded, but currently doesn't suck without due to recent teeth works she says. Good anyway.
There is also at MC a tall, young and gorgeous brunette, very pale with a large mouth. She is always close to full nudity. Looking shy. I was tempted but something told me she may be disapointing. If some of you knows more, please tell.
My best encouter by far at MC has been a blond lady in her early 30ies. Due to the current violence of this thread, I prefer not to disclose her name!
Cheers
GB
Does anyone actually have a date for when HELPs last night will be?
I will be in Rio in December, but sadly I think this will be too late
AndyAndy, your guess is as probably good as anybody's. Below a poster reports a taxi driver told him this is the last week. Last week I got an email from a guy who told me Oct 1 for sure because it's a done deal but they have another location to go to.
This latest round of Help closing started in February 2008, when the articles appeared in O Globo about the Governor of Rio Expropriating Help to put a musuem there. It sounded serious then as it does now and if you check this forumn or any other forumn Help was doomed in no time, that was 18 months ago and it's still open.
So we could be here in another 18 months from now(wishful thinking) asking the same question or we can be asking where did the girls end up.
Either way you will still find many girls at night in Copa near Help if it closes, they will just be spread out a little bit more.
Green Banana
08-25-09, 23:22
Montecarlo currently offers an excellent rate for euros at 1€ = 2,80 R$; didn't find better anywhere in town.
Jamaicanceo
08-26-09, 01:41
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Thanks,
Jackson
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-26-09, 02:04
Thanks bro. Yeah we had a great time. I know that 4x4 is a great sight to see in Rio. I'm starting to get use to seeing sexy A*S woman all over the place. I'm going to have to relocate my job to the bar at 4x4. See you next time.
Hey Big guy,
Was nice meeting you and your wing man at 4X4 on Friday night. Sorry couldn't say good bye before you left, that girl I left with worked me out hard. She was a real monster.
Good to see you and I hope our paths cross again in Brazil or the DR.
Cheers
A158
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-26-09, 02:10
Hey Forest,
I hope I'm not too late. Not a paying member can't PM you but, had a session with beautiful morena with the pefect body today about 2pm. Una chica fue completo. She did it all. Bad teeth though, but sexy nonetheless. She says she's bi and likes to fuck anybody and everybody. I'm sure she'll like your lady. Karla models her name is Adrian Porta. 1 monger to the other buen probecho.
I repeat my request for help from our members.
If anyone has a nice bi girl whom might like to spend a few hours with me and my girlfriend, please pm me.
She will be VERY well compensated.
Thanks Forest
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-26-09, 02:36
Greetings fellow Mongeres,
Anyway, been in Rio hit a few days hit lots of spots met some cool PEOPLE. YES I said PEOPLE(human beings)! I like the place.
The girls are Fu*'k'n sexy sex machines. Even the grandma's ya'll...lol... I love it...ja ja ja.
My wingman(WM) and I called Karla Model's today and had a good experience. But, I will say photoshop is used heavily on the site, so buyer be-(a)ware. My WM picked one then changed his mind at the last moment and should have stayed with his orginal choice. When they arrived(quoted 30 travel time they were here in 10mins), immediate connect between my girl and I and off we went. short morena with small waist big tits short hair just my type. Both the girls had this teeth thing going didn't like that but the attitudes were awsome so we got past that (I before my wing man but to each his own) after 20 mins of looking thru the book of other "models" for more victims we were all fu*K'n. She was giving CBJ which was ok with me cuz she was so D8mn sexy...30 mins straight with her on top then switch, doggie she likes it had. Then so anal she complained a little but then got so into it i had to hold back from shooting my load...Took a shower together CBJ in the shower with revese doggie on the bench in the show with the water go'n like straight out of a porno. I had to look over my sholder to make sure we weren't being filmed. I like this girl. very into sex and attentive. I will recommend her to those that like her type.
Tijuana,
In my opinion, Africa-American men have ghettoed up Help in the last 5 to 7 years.
Andy, your guess is as probably good as anybody's. Below a poster reports a taxi driver told him this is the last week. Last week I got an email from a guy who told me Oct 1 for sure because it's a done deal but they have another location to go to.
This latest round of Help closing started in February 2008, when the articles appeared in O Globo about the Governor of Rio Expropriating Help to put a musuem there. It sounded serious then as it does now and if you check this forumn or any other forumn Help was doomed in no time, that was 18 months ago and it's still open.
So we could be here in another 18 months from now(wishful thinking) asking the same question or we can be asking where did the girls end up.
Either way you will still find many girls at night in Copa near Help if it closes, they will just be spread out a little bit more.
If and when it closes, I will miss HELP for sure. Had mostly good/great times there over the last 3-4 years (regardless of all the griping from the geriatrics mongers about good old days).
Jamaicanceo
08-26-09, 07:48
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WannabeMonger
08-26-09, 15:49
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If and when it closes, I will miss HELP for sure. Had mostly good/great times there over the last 3-4 years (regardless of all the griping from the geriatrics mongers about good old days). Well said Biz, but you have to admit that we have all been a bit "spoiled" with HELP. I mean, hey - it's been like "Wendy's late night take out window". Regardless of how the night was going, you could always rely on HELP. You could always drop by from 1:30 AM - 3:00 AM and be assured to be able to bring home "a little something". No preparation - no planning - no craft what so ever. You just stumble in, smile a little and "boom" plenty of opportunities. I don't think I am too far out of line to say that it was about as close to "lazy man mongering" as you could get. Sort of like going fishing in one of those farms where you pay your $20 and you keep fishing till you get a bite.
To be sure, if HELP does actually close (and I'm not convinced that it really will) this is going to change the game a bit in Zona Sul unless a replacement pops up. And if one does not, is that REALLY such a bad thing? Sure the convenience will be gone, but there will STILL be GDP in Rio. The local girls will survive and figure out where to set up shop as an alternative. In fact for some of the girls it's probably a blessing because they no longer will have to complete with the part time semi-pro.
Whom I think a HELP closure is really going to hurt is the weekender GDP from outside of Rio. The other day I got an email from a little university student friend of mine who lives in Belo Horizonte. She is frantic because on long weekends and holidays, she could always count on coming to Rio, stay with girlfriends, and setting up shop at HELP for a few nights coming home with a few extra bucks in her jeans. Now, it's not going to be so easy.
Lest we forget that Rio is still one of the great cities in the world where women have a generally open attitude towards sex in general. They are still going to be "available" so it's just a matter of finding out where they are hiding. And of course we have this forum to assist us to sniff out the new spots.
I know that the "old timers" are all just laughing because most of the hardened mongers all have their favorite "fish'in hole" and have not built a reliance on HELP. For them, life won't change much. For the rest of us, it's time to get resourceful, quite being lazy and get in the game. Who knows, it might even be a positive experience. It might even weed out the guys who over-pay (not to open THAT can of worms) and drive the prices up.
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Hello Jackson,
You posted the following in the Colombian forum. Could you do something regarding the racist comments in the Rio de Janeiro forum that attacks other ISG members or insults ISG members with posting that have nothing to do with the purpose of the forum, or the interest of paid members. As a Black person, I did pay to read about another IGS members racists comments about other people. If I wanted to read racist content, I could've joined a Klu Klux Klan or a Nazi Hilter monger website instead of ISG.Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson
Poucolouco
08-26-09, 21:35
Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum. Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
JacksonIt would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.
Devilspinkick
08-26-09, 21:43
I know that the "old timers" are all just laughing because most of the hardened mongers all have their favorite "fish'in hole" and have not built a reliance on HELP. For them, life won't change much. For the rest of us, it's time to get resourceful, quite being lazy and get in the game. Who knows, it might even be a positive experience. It might even weed out the guys who over-pay (not to open THAT can of worms) and drive the prices up.HELP is more of an eyesore than an icon. There are plenty of mongers who visit Rio all the time and never step foot in HELP, nor find it necessary to (eg., myself). Opportunities abound in Rio and when/if HELP closes the scene will simply change a bit, but the women will be available at different venues.
The few times I ever went into HELP all I ever saw were skanky looking chicks. Perhaps I chose bad nights to visit but on the plus side since I was never impressed with the talent there and thus never became dependent on HELP. I head back to Rio next month and whether HELP is open or not it won't affect me in the least. OTOH - maybe there will be more hot chicks available with the Termas, agencies, etc.
"O tempora, O mores!"
DSK
Jamaicanceo
08-26-09, 22:03
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It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.Hi Jackson,
I quote Poucolouco and curious to see what the others think about it.
Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
JacksonI prefer you don't spend your time with pro-active moderation, but instead suggest you assess the new reports after posting and delete the questionable ones. There is a lot of unproductive argumentation going on. I think it is unavoidable but it don't need to be archived.
Walker
Houston Player
08-26-09, 22:33
Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
JacksonHell No, we don't need that.
Sunset Strip
08-26-09, 22:42
It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.
I hate the racist posts as much as anybody and reported two of them recently and they got deleted the same day.
That is all we have to do. Instead of arguing with these guys just report the posts. There is a link to do so in every post.
The Brazil forum is probably the most popular by far, so we are going to get knuckleheads along with the good. On the same note, being so popular means lots of posts and information coming all the time. We do not need to slow down the information.
Lets all be more vigilant about reporting these guys rather than arguing with them and getting yourself in trouble with the ADMIN!
TJ
It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.
I agree. No need for full moderation.
We all joined this forum for the purpose of exchanging information which will help us in our mongering. Occasionally there are members posting racist comments. IMO these members are lowlifes and have nothing to contribute to the forum, and they deserves a warning.
I ask myself why these racist members bothers going to Brazil if they dislike dark skinned people?
It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.
Yeah, seconded, thirded whatever.
btw. Jackson's running of the board is ace IMO. A lot of boards really get their knickers in a twist over such stuff.
Poucolouco
08-26-09, 22:55
It would not be necessary to slow things down with full moderation if members would report offensive posts to the board moderators and the offenders are promptly and publicly warned and disciplined.For example, take a look below at the posting at 22:29 yesterday. This is an offensive post that should be flagged for review by the moderators. The poster should be warned to cease and desist. The poster modified the message since yesterday and somehow gets under the wire of any review.
Tijuana,
In my opinion, Africa-American men have ghettoed up Help in the last 5 to 7 years.
Can we get this post deleted as well?
Poucolouco
08-27-09, 01:21
Can we get this post deleted as well?
Don't ask us. Click on Report this Post to a Moderator at the bottom of the specific post.
Exec Talent
08-27-09, 01:46
This is a forum for us to discuss women and in a broader sense share our experiences about Brazil. A discussion of race has its place, it is just not here. Let's get back to the purpose of this forum and let Jackson get back to more important things than babysitting the Brazil forum.
Gfe Finder
08-27-09, 01:57
Greetings Everyone,
Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.
This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.
Tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Jackson
I'll join the chorus of "no moderation" votes. We have an existing policy to handle these problems, viz. if you don't like an offensive post, report it.
Rock Harders
08-27-09, 02:13
Mongers-
I agree with the other posters that there is absolutely no place on this forum for any racist comments or complaints. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate the exchange of information for the purpose of finding women for sex. I also travel to Colombia and participate in the Medellin and Cali threads; the Colombian forum is a pain in the ass because it has been on full moderation for over a year. The Brasil forum is more accessible because there is no delay. By the way, I am about to get on a plane Rio as we speak to enjoy the alleged last two nights of Help.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Why are we deleting the posts instead of just banning the offending person?
Lets get back to talking about Brazil and its fine women! I have made 20+ trips to Rio, in fact met various men out here from this website, who I hung out with in Rio and created great friendships!! OF ALL BACKGROUNDS and RACES!!
Please guys, no more racial comments and lets enjoy all of our stories and knowledge on Brazil.
Geo
Smooth Slim
08-27-09, 04:05
I don't see a need for increase moderation. I have found the forum informative, helpful and most of the posters respectful of each other when they disagree. Occasionally, the racist posts flair up, but I think they could be handled through the report abuse feature.
I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.
I'll join the chorus of "no moderation" votes. We have an existing policy to handle these problems, viz. if you don't like an offensive post, report it.Despite the slow responses i think there should be ZERO TOLERANCE FOR offensive posts so it should be moderated because the atagonist will continue to try to get by with there out of taste opinions
being that it just boils my anger to have deal with the issues of the few
But that said I vote to moderate.
Lets get back to talking about Brazil and its fine women! I have made 20+ trips to Rio, in fact met various men out here from this website, who I hung out with in Rio and created great friendships!! OF ALL BACKGROUNDS and RACES!!
Please guys, no more racial comments and lets enjoy all of our stories and knowledge on Brazil.
GeoG they will not stop its part of their nature man
I understand that yeah WE go to enjoy the land of the ladies but thats us you would not believe how many people have the same issues as far a race
They will NEVER STOP
You can't change a persons nature.
I have been to Colombia several times over the last few years and I am very familiar with the Medellin forum as well. Its a pain in the ass to participate because of the delay involved when adding a report.
I saw the writing on the wall, sort of speak, a few days ago when a member in this forum made comments about certain american mongers. I specifically added a report stating that " there are going to be some very interesting reports coming up", right after I read that particular report.
Forget whether I agreed with it or not, the point is that I knew it was going to get ugly with the issue of race. No need need to write about those issues in this particular forum. We can create a new forum for that, just leave this one alone for the purpose of helping each other chase brazilian tail.
G they will not stop its part of their nature man
I understand that yeah WE go to enjoy the land of the ladies but thats us you would not believe how many people have the same issues as far a race
They will NEVER STOP
You can't change a persons nature.
You got that right.
Let us return to the purpose of this forum: sharing information.
With that I give you this:
For those adventurous among us, who have ventured to Barra de Tijuca. The city has closed Cafe 400,..again. For those unfamiliar with it: During the week it was run like a Termas, and on weekends it was for swinging Cariocas.
As reported in Odia yesterday:
It was raided by 20 SEOP agents, (they're the Public Order guys, an uphill battle in Rio, if you ask me.) The club was operating illegally, licensed as a bar, but suspected of being a brothel. (OMG...there's prostitution in Barra!!!) :eek:
16 rooms were found, (they didn't see that on previous raids?!) One room was used to store liquor and hundreds of boxes of condoms.
They've been fined many times, but continued to operate as usual. Looks like they're going after them as a public nuisance for continued disobedience of the Law. (They must think they're in Copa or Centro.)
I think the bribe just went UP.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/prefeitura_interdita_boate_ilegal_na_barra_da_tijuca_31701.html
El Austriaco
08-27-09, 19:56
I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.
Fully second that. Just reporting the offensive post is enough.... like I did for the second one of Brazilman that was removed.
EA
I also vote NO to full moderation.
Offensive reports are handled through the report abuse feature.
Those who can't place nice with others should be reported to the mod and be kicked out of the playground.
I'm throwing in my NO vote on full moderatiuon.
I like what the Java Man says.
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