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SinfullyKorean
06-17-21, 01:50
Oh, he said it. Here come the ISG wolves for your carcass.LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.
AmorPorFavor
06-17-21, 05:25
LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.
SinfullyKorean
06-17-21, 07:04
The Cane doesn't have "duds". I take great pride in my selection process, and pulling a dud just isn't something that happens to me. In fact, I can't even recall the last time it happened. We all have our own techniques, but I don't know. I mean some things just can't be taught. You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine!That works for you, this works for me. I don't really care that I pulled a dud. I'm going back in just a few days. My goal is to shoot as many times as I can while I'm still here. LOL. I've been averaging more than 1 fuck a day (for 12 days now). Sometimes, that dud will be on round 2. And this one time, it was on round 1 (but 3rd of the day). I don't mind. She was someone I found attractive and got a rise out of me at MAB'S. This was after I skipped out on several 8's at 4 x4. Why should I care? I spent my money the way I wanted. And I wanted to scratch that itch. Don't regret it for 1 sec.
He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.Haha, that makes sense. Fortunately, no bank was broken in Rio. And Scandallo is probably not the cheap charlies' watering hole anyways.
SoberHans69
06-17-21, 08:42
. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick. I hate it when hookers do that. It's crazy how the majority of hookers don't know how to put a condom on a customer's cock. It's like a chef not being able to cook rice or something.
He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie? I understand it is annoying to some. I think most of the times, people are saying one can buy the same thing for less. Whether it is the same thing or not, that is another debate.
Vagabundo1
06-17-21, 10:50
Value Investing by Smart Money.
Speaking as one of those so called cheap charlies, I would just respectfully point out that there is an important point to be made. Vagabundo (and Senor Sperto, and Senor Bubba Boy, and a long line of successful value investors, Warren Buffet, et al) is not so much worried about pricing vagabundo out of the market. Vagabundo assures you, he could easily buy any pussy on the market in Rio. It is, rather, that Vagabundo does not want to be seen by the locals as dumb money, or in stock market terms a "market order".
As for Senor SK, I'm not reading his posts, as I decided not to hang with him, as he violated forum rules, which he corrected by taking down the offending posts. That said, if a possible wingman has IFF (identify friend or foe) issues, or can't follow the rules of the forum, then this forum member doesn't really need to take the risk of having to figure out whether the "girl" he picks has a penis or a clit.
That said, I mean no offense to Senor SK, who has written some very long, informative, and useful posts, especially for a first time after Covid monger coming from California, which was once a nice place for a man, but may no longer be so friendly to humans with dicks.
Tier 1 termas like 4 x4 are great. Vagabundo loves the vibe, the bunda, the talent. For a monger like FLCNHeavy, who identified himself as the ISG member who spent 1000 reais for a pernoite at 4 x4 (after Vagabundo, respectfully, tried to discretely conceal his identity, see the relevant posts if you like; it was in fact, Mr E, our most prolific writer here who was outraged by the 1000 reais pernoite pricing, especially when it was revealed, again by FLCNHeavy to be for just to 02 h); or for Anaggie who spent by his own post 3500 reais for 4 girls at 4 x 4 in 8 hours, and again, Anaggie gets positive props from this ISG member for smartly getting bareback by bringing his tests, a protip for a Agriculture and Mining expert if ever there was one. But Bubba Boy's guide observed that the smart local mongers go to tier 1 termas like 4 x 4 or Perola Negra or Paris Cafe to get numbers, and then to get them back to your apartment, for the own toilet advantage, preferably in a suite with a hydromassagem. Even though the rooms at 4 x4 or even Solarium are top notch, they are not a private pool and hydromassagem like a good love motel, like carbonara in Bangu, or in your luxury hotel or apartment suite.
Anyhoo. You could say Warren Buffet is a cheap bastard. He'd probably take that as a compliment. Likewise the experienced market maker who gets market maker leverage -- that means he can buy the same option contract, you, the retail investor buy with cash with borrowed money precisely because the exchange considers him to be smart money.
My view is don't be a retail investor. Be a professional.
There are military analogies to be made too, but I've made my point. Again. Now, as Senor sperto suggests, Vagabundo too will ignore AmorPorFavor.
Pax de Christo.
He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.
If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie?...Not at all but when he becomes angry at you for shopping at the retail store then something's wrong with him.
Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?No, not really.
Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.
As someone was saying, RJMassagem and other places are trying to market and differentiate themselves as legitimate massage places. I avoid these types of places in RJ and SP. I don't find "real" Brazilian massages very good (as say compared to Asia). I also don't want to have to coax the masseuse to provide me extra services or get her to meet me outside the salon. However, I hope Natty Bumpo had a great time with Clara from RJMassagem at his place. She is a looker. Look forward to his report.
As far as duds, if you monger enough you will come across them. Many of these termas and Mabs girls are great sales people. Getting clients to fork over money is competitive business between these girls. They know how to use their feminine guile. I will stop short of calling them "teases" because technically they will fuck you just not with the GFE passion we desire.
Many times the signals are there and my brain just ignores them. There was this bombshell 9+ in Help Disco. An absolute stunning branca head to toe. For some reason, maybe the fact she wanted $100, she was getting passed over. Some of the clues that she is going to be a lousy fuck were probably her incredible club outfit, her impeccable highlighted hair and solid English skills. As the night wore on, I offer her $80. She accepts and it's off to my Copa apartment not far away.
Back at the apartment, she's now in a rush. She talks about how she lived and stripped in Miami. You know she would make $20 for just a lap dance. Yeah, yeah, whatever. This is Rio. I get her on the balcony overlooking the ocean and the lights of Copacabana Beach. We go at it on the plastic patio furniture. It was a nice night. Everything seemed to be perfect. The problem is she starts urging me to cum almost the minute we go from the short BJ to insertion. She would not shut up and she complained her pussy was tired.
It was a learning lesson. At the disco in its day, there were dozens of cute, sexy, less worldy girls who would fuck you all night for $50. They would be very appreciative and work to please you if you treated them nice. This is kind of the deal at Mabs, but on a much smaller scale.
SinfullyKorean
06-17-21, 17:21
As for Senor SK, I'm not reading his posts, as I decided not to hang with him, as he violated forum rules, which he corrected by taking down the offending posts. That said, if a possible wingman has IFF (identify friend or foe) issues, or can't follow the rules of the forum, then this forum member doesn't really need to take the risk of having to figure out whether the "girl" he picks has a penis or a clit.
That said, I mean no offense to Senor SK, who has written some very long, informative, and useful posts, especially for a first time after Covid monger coming from California, which was once a nice place for a man, but may no longer be so friendly to humans with dicks.No worries. I don't need to spend time who have phobias of a certain creed, even if those are "forum rules". My time is better spent with other enjoyable, high class members of ISG. Life's too short to be spent with negative people. No offense, as you've contributed much here, especially for locals and those here on a long term basis.
I had some concerns coming to a brand new country specifically for mongering, especially with South America's reputation for violence and Brazil's current covid situation. But HUGE thanks to Natty for inspiring me to make the trip. And thanks to Miami, Zebra, Diver, and one more anonymous ISGer who were a pleasure to hang out with. I respect every one of these classy gents. They're probably in the top 10% of US society, which probably makes them top 1% in the world. I'm talking about financial freedom and mental fortitude / liberty to make mongering trips across the world. It's been fun hanging out with everyone I met and would do so any time.
Now, to go hang out at Prime for some eye candy. =).
There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.To enter Colombia when you are traveling from Brazil. Please beware. I was denied boarding and got fucked. Not the end of the world, but lost a few hundred $ and my plans for Bogota got screwed. I guess will stick around for at least 10 more days.
You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine!Bingo! That's right on the money!
She reminds me of a young Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman reenactment? LOL). But when we got to my hotel (no issues with front desk), I found her to be just a bit too thin with saggy breasts. I think she was still lactating from just having a kid.Did you ask if she had kid?
As a PSA to we few, I have gone so far as to cut and paste Bubba Boy's guide. I concur with all his wisdom, with some notes of my own.
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The questions that Bubba Boy posts are solid, and should be used. I have modified mine a little:
1. Voce tem filhos?
Steve 9696
06-17-21, 19:24
Thanks Sinfully Korean for your copious posts. Great stuff in both the SP and Rio forums. My only slight advice to you is not worry about the prices quite so much (sounds like you CAN afford it) because when back in the states you will wish you hadn't.
And if you really want to blow the doors off your going to want to get some Viagra. You said you went a bit floppy at times and yep that's going to happen. But no need for it to. When I first hit Brasil on my first trip I did 5 girls at 5 different venues in 24 hours. Don't think I coulda pulled that off without an assist. And going two rounds back to back with 20-30 minutes rest won't happen for me anymore without it. Yeah I could get BJ round two but no way I'm fucking in round 2 without an assist. Also if you get a girl who is older or fatter than you hope but her service is good you will still be able to perform. Highly recommend.
Thanks Sinfully Korean for your copious posts. Great stuff in both the SP and Rio forums. My only slight advice to you is not worry about the prices quite so much (sounds like you CAN afford it) because when back in the states you will wish you hadn't.Yeah, you never go back home and worry about what you paid in Brazil. It's all good.
My regrets come when I get caught up in the action and I forget to call a Brazilian girl to meet-up. Sometimes they were the hottest fuck in recent memory and I'm quickly on to other things during a short stay. Sometimes I haven't even hooked up with a hot girl that I forget to call, but the mind unfairly projects that she would have been incredible in bed.
Steve here is pretty good at extending out those great encounters.
And Maria (the one 10 I've met thus far), kind of ruined my fantasy with her high price. It's nothing compared to what I'd pay in the states. But I think I prefer the 1 HR fantasy at a prive. 700 for a 10 to come to your place is cheap. This probably is true for locals too. I guess your set up is for her to visit and fuck and that is what you get. If you have a chance, go check out the restaurant DOM nearby then let us know what is the price and you can put all of these into perspective.
Next time, if you are quoted a high price, or before getting a price from the girl, remind them you are not Japanese. lol.
Speaking as one of those so called cheap charlies, I would just respectfully point out that there is an important point to be made. Vagabundo (and Senor Sperto, and Senor Bubba Boy, and a long line of successful value investors, Warren Buffet, et al) is not so much worried about pricing vagabundo out of the market.Don't worry, just add the chatos "to ignore list", very useful. Some posters likes to show off like high-rollers. Because of age, physical shape, no chance of scoring regular girls and lack of portuguese skills and game their only solution to get some nice p*ssy is to overpay on their one weekend holiday. Some of them make excuses that the "cheap Charlies" can't afford paying what they pay. No matter what I buy, overpaying makes you look like a fool and will definitely not gain the respect of the GP.
The good is that I love meeting GPs that are receiving money from their US boyfriends. In between talking sweet to their BFs on Skype I f*ck their GFs for free. Sometimes I banging them just next to the laptops (bought by their BFs) where their BFs are calling them.
The bad is that it's no longer possible to share the best information on this forum, that's why I stopped sharing my privë lists. If you post info about this fantastic newbie that just started to work on a certain privê in Centro, then she'll be ruined by overpaying jerks. That sort of info can only be shared by PMs.
Have fun, Senhor Vagabundo.
SinfullyKorean
06-17-21, 21:03
And if you really want to blow the doors off your going to want to get some Viagra. You said you went a bit floppy at times and yep that's going to happen. But no need for it to. When I first hit Brasil on my first trip I did 5 girls at 5 different venues in 24 hours. Don't think I coulda pulled that off without an assist. And going two rounds back to back with 20-30 minutes rest won't happen for me anymore without it. Yeah I could get BJ round two but no way I'm fucking in round 2 without an assist. Also if you get a girl who is older or fatter than you hope but her service is good you will still be able to perform. Highly recommend.I'm still a bit wary of Viagra, since I haven't tried it yet. I don't want to depend on it. I went limp couple nights ago because I'd already shot twice on back to back days. Usually, shooting twice is enough to satisfy my libido for a few days. Honestly, I was just greedy because it was my last night in Rio. I have about 2. 5 days of mongering left in this great nation before having to head back to prude nation. I'll keep V in the back of my mind for the future. Thanks for the tip, though =) And you're right. It's not necessarily about how hot they are on round 2. It helps, but it's all about the chemistry and their attitude.
700 for a 10 to come to your place is cheap. This probably is true for locals too. I guess your set up is for her to visit and fuck and that is what you get. If you have a chance, go check out the restaurant DOM nearby then let us know what is the price and you can put all of these into perspective.It was a trophy fuck, and I'm glad I got the chance. The magic kind of wore off because of her relative high price. I've had a few KBs (Korean Babes) in California that reciprocated my feelings and we spent a lot of extracurricular time outside of paid sessions. That's the kind of magic I'm looking for. It's probably not likely to happen here unless I learn the language, which I plan on doing.
Miami shared some of his success stories on SA when we met. He had some great insight / strategy I hope to try next time.
Vagabundo1
06-17-21, 22:20
Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.
Vagabundo mongered up to the 3 d floor of RB156 with his capucinno, fohlo camarao, and acai. He popped his generic viagra, and cialis, just a piece not the whole thing, and made a plan. He would cross the street to RB185, to Bel Prazer.
There, he picked his girl, a negra, who it turns out also had worked at 4 x 4. He paid his 120 r for the hour.
Vagabundo lay back, enjoyed the BBBJ, and the kissing, 69. She got on top to ride, and Vagabundo encouraged her to slap his face. She seemed to like this.
For any monger to really enjoy Rio, it is essential to master the sex language.
Chupa meu piroca means suck my dick.
Garganta profunda means deep throat.
Chupa meu saco means suck my balls.
Etc.
Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking.
This is what some mongers like to call missionary anal.
All through it, Vagabundo made nasty talk such as Quero vc fuder uma mulata come seu mao endentro buceta dela. To which the girl responded, vc quer isso agora. To which Vagabundo responded, proxima vez. Then Vagabundo encouraged, Vc e policia, Quero vc fuder uma loira com seu mao endentro buceta dela. Vc quer? This nasty talk made her ride harder, and she seemed to enjoy the audio novella of her violent, whacked out world which is the sacred and profane of Rio de Janeiro at war with itself, a class war, between rich and poor, black and white, shades of humanity, judged by colorism, by uniform, by social standing as surely strait jacketing as in the new classic novel and netflix movie, White Tiger.
Sure, you can be a yankee imperialist, but the girl will like it better if you speak her language, even if your portuguese sucks.
Vagabundo did request and was granted frango assado, and in that position he penetrated the anal passage of the girl. A nice tight ride up a strong, healthy, beautiful booty. She asked for 50 tip for the ass, which is fine.
It makes it all worth it.
Vagabundo shot his first load into the pink, intentionally translucent (comes in a light blue wrapper in the local pharma) up her booty. That was at the 30 minute mark.
Vagabundo showered.
He came back to the bed, and kissed, and exchange numbers, which later came up as "4 x4 . " from 3 years ago. Vagabundo knew he had seen her before.
Vagabundo suggested chupa meu piroca.
Meia Nove means 69.
De Quatro (sounds like "gi quatro") means doggy style.
Oh, that bunda, that nice jiggly, firm, athletic bunda.
Vagabundo came again, thinking about flooding her pussy with his sperm, and about flooding the world with his heirs.
The hour was pretty much over, and certainly, Vagabundo's balls were drained.
"Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we are in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
Don't go out to tonight.
Its bound to take your life.
There's a bad moon on the rise".
-Creedence Clearwater Revival.
Vagabundo picked up some things he had on order in Centro.
He was a bit knackered after a nice morning of nasty fucking, so Vagabundo, uncharacteristically, took an indriver (the app that allows the user to set his price) back to Transamerica where he caught a nice afternoon nap. Thoughts of the other mulatta fluttered in his head like reindeer at christmastime in a child's imagination.
I'm still a bit wary of Viagra, since I haven't tried it yet. I don't want to depend on it.That's an interesting POV. I don't think Viagra and other ED meds actually create dependency. When it first became popular, I and other younger gents used it to enhance our experience and performance. I never had any young women complain either.
Where it might be a problem for some, is when one actually has alcohol and drug dependency and the ED meds help them overcome the deleterious effects of the alcohol and drugs. Of course, there were some young guys who would get drunk off their ass and still hammer like a jackhammer.
Steve 9696
06-18-21, 02:27
That's an interesting POV. I don't think Viagra and other ED meds actually create dependency. When it first became popular, I and other younger gents used it to enhance our experience and performance. I never had any young women complain either.
Where it might be a problem for some, is when one actually has alcohol and drug dependency and the ED meds help them overcome the deleterious effects of the alcohol and drugs. Of course, there were some young guys who would get drunk off their ass and still hammer like a jackhammer.I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.
CrowExplorer
06-18-21, 03:05
For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.Thank you for the novella Vagabundo! I found it both informative and inspiring to read. I hope to live that kind of life someday!
SinfullyKorean
06-18-21, 04:23
I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.Exactly this. For now, I'm fine. I've been on sex overdrive because of the short 2 week vacation. To be honest, I'd be happy having sex 2-3 times a week (multiple pops per session). I think that's what my libido prefers. Sessioning every day, sometimes multiple times a day is just greed and a luxury =).
Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.
Vagabundo mongered up to the 3 d floor of RB156 with his capucinno, fohlo camarao, and acai. He popped his generic viagra, and cialis, just a piece not the whole thing, and made a plan. He would cross the street to RB185, to Bel Prazer.
There, he picked his girl, a negra, who it turns out also had worked at 4 x 4. He paid his 120 r for the hour.
Vagabundo lay back, enjoyed the BBBJ, and the kissing, 69. She got on top to ride, and Vagabundo encouraged her to slap his face. She seemed to like this.
For any monger to really enjoy Rio, it is essential to master the sex language.
Chupa meu piroca means suck my dick.
Garganta profunda means deep throat.
Chupa meu saco means suck my balls.
Etc.
Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking.Great storytelling as always, but.
Frango Assado, at least in my perusal of GPArena, means something else, I think. It's her on a bed's edge, legs up.
Missionary, I believe, is called PPMM or papai mamae, which makes perfect sense IMHO.
Vagabundo1
06-18-21, 05:30
Frango Assado means literally roast chicken.
It looks like the attached image of a roast chicken.
If you walk around Brazil, you see roast chicken advertised in restaurants as frango assado.
The girl gets on her back, lets up in the air, and put a pillow (traversa) under her ass to elevate the holes desired.
It could also be on the edge of the bed as you describe.
I am sure our linguistic cuninglinguists will advise us, shortly, here on the dead sea scrolls society of penthouse letters in Portuguese, haha.
Great storytelling as always, but.
Frango Assado, at least in my perusal of GPArena, means something else, I think. It's her on a bed's edge, legs up.
Missionary, I believe, is called PPMM or papai mamae, which makes perfect sense IMHO.
Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks!
My time is better spent with other enjoyable, high class members of ISG. Life's too short to be spent with negative people. But HUGE thanks to Natty for inspiring me to make the trip. And thanks to Miami, Zebra, Diver, and one more anonymous ISGer who were a pleasure to hang out with. I respect every one of these classy gents. They're probably in the top 10% of US society, which probably makes them top 1% in the world. I'm talking about financial freedom and mental fortitude / liberty to make mongering trips across the world.I will never apologize for being a millionaire. I worked hard and put up with a lot of shit to earn my money, and nobody here helped me to acquire one red cent of it. I'll be damned if anybody will tell me when, where, and how to spend it either. What's yours is yours, and what's mine is mine. Unless of course we're talking about the tutes we pass around LOLOLOL!
Vagabundo1
06-18-21, 12:19
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her. Moreover, after having a few meals with the non pro and her sister, and her mulatta child, the non pro drops this bomb: My baby daddy is suing me for custody or something like that and he will not give consent to leave the country, but I'd love you to take me to Florida.
Fortunately, Vagabundo, being a vagabundo, was playing game, successfully he might add, to penetrate to her seniors, a boss of an important government agency, as well as to network in her office, with the drivers of some heavily armed vehicles. Vagabundo, having acquired the data he was after simply asked her to stop one night on the heavily trafficked drive through Jardim Botanico, borrowed her umbrella, and hit the street to link up with a fellow patriot, to hunt, hunt for pussy, because her bundaoaoaoaoaaoao gggg was going to be too much of a walrus whale blubber of heinous fat for even a humble spy on a the salary of a retired Commander, British Navy to fuck. NFW.
Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her..
Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking. Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mamãe, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mão, kangaroo penetrá etc...
Exec Talent
06-18-21, 15:03
Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mame, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mo, kangaroo penetr etc...One of the many advantages of having a Brazilian Girlfriend is you learn the Portuguese names for these many positions (and others). Doubt a GDP will have the interest or inclination.
For those of you who have been there and done that, how many times have you cracked up while your partner was describing how to perform the various maneuvers. I usually ask at least 3-4 times just to be sure I get it right. LOL.
As usual, Sperto, thanks for keeping it real.
Member #4729
06-18-21, 17:30
Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks!Take a look at Rocinha, lots of street action and cheap accommodations.
Member #4729
06-18-21, 17:49
My buddy and I have noticed this the last few nights and are wondering why anyone would be compelled to literally flush money down the toilet in this manner? I'm not interested in telling people how to spend their hard earned dollars but it seems like ordering Concombre a la Menthe with Cassoulet at Papa's Shake Shack. But if that's how you roll, then go get it.
I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.I understand we are not talking about chemical dependency. Either do I think of ED meds as a crutch of which you will become psychologically dependent.
A mongering trip can be a crazy lifestyle for some of older guys. When you are running around, drinking and partying, the ED meds are kind of a call to action.
SinfullyKorean mentioned he was in sexual overdrive and having sex beyond his normal libido. In Brazil, Thailand, etc. I might hit a wall. It can be just too much sexual stimulus for an extended period. I might just swear to take a day off unless something spectacular falls into my lap. The problem is in the mongersphere something could easily fall into your lap. Literally!
Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mame, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mo, kangaroo penetr etc...
The girl gets on her back, lets up in the air, and put a pillow (traversa) under her ass to elevate the holes desired.
It could also be on the edge of the bed as you describe.
I am sure our linguistic cuninglinguists will advise us, shortly, here on the dead sea scrolls society of penthouse letters in Portuguese, haha.And so I'll stand corrected, confrades, for I'm always eager to learn.
Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks!Your mission statement is inspiring. Tell us: after having already Read The Fucking Forum (or RTTF for short) for at least 30-40 pages back, what specific questions do you still have?
Had an awesome time so far in my return to Rio after a 15 year absence. Met a gorgeous Brazilian on the plane which got me in the mood as I hit boots on ground. Staying in Copa near Djalma Ulrich where Help used to be. 4 x4 remodel is nice but doesn't feel like 4 x4. It's smaller now like Lions was. Gone is the fire pole that girls took to lower level whiskeria. Talent level is really nice but less girls overall, but still good since customer levels also down. So far, 3 excellent choices in Penelope (tall white 18 yoga blonde), Nadine and Livia (dark skinned brunettes). Also, spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.
Happy Friday from Rio!
Dan.
P.S. Anyone here want to hang out, please Private message me!
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SinfullyKorean
06-18-21, 23:44
spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.Victoria at Onix was my favorite garota while in Rio, which is why I spent 2 hours with her before my flight out to SP. Glad you enjoyed her, too =).
I heard from numerous sources that I should've checked out Copacabana club and Dolce Vita. If you have time, make sure to check them out. They're a short Uber scooter ride away from where you're staying.
Vagabundo1
06-18-21, 23:49
Nice report. Liked mixing prives and temas in particular.
I will be in centro at 22 h Friday to link up.
Had an awesome time so far in my return to Rio after a 15 year absence. Met a gorgeous Brazilian on the plane which got me in the mood as I hit boots on ground. Staying in Copa near Djalma Ulrich where Help used to be. 4 x4 remodel is nice but doesn't feel like 4 x4. It's smaller now like Lions was. Gone is the fire pole that girls took to lower level whiskeria. Talent level is really nice but less girls overall, but still good since customer levels also down. So far, 3 excellent choices in Penelope (tall white 18 yoga blonde), Nadine and Livia (dark skinned brunettes). Also, spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.
Happy Friday from Rio!
Dan.
P.S. Anyone here want to hang out, please Private message me!
Member #4729
06-19-21, 00:22
Desinformation is normal procedure here in the forum, but recommending Rocinha for "street hookers for cheap" isn't just stupid but also extremely dangerous.It's hard to imagine a scenario where a simple google search doesn't reveal this as obvious ball busting, but I suppose there is a faint and dim possibility where someone actually follows through and books accommodations. Somehow. In Rocinha, and ends up in serious trouble as a result. And in that case I accept the critique. Until then, lighten up.
Vagabundo1
06-19-21, 02:01
https://www.bradmontana.com/videos/a-novata-bibi-grifo/
She was there yesterday for dinner.
I just walked up to her and got her number.
Desinformation is normal procedure here in the forum, but recommending Rocinha for "street hookers for cheap" isn't just stupid but also extremely dangerous.No one would take it at face value.
https://www.bradmontana.com/videos/a-novata-bibi-grifo/
She was there yesterday for dinner.
I just walked up to her and got her number.The first frame, WTF?
No one would take it at face value.Some tend to take things and themselves too seriously all of the time.
It's hard to imagine a scenario where a simple google search doesn't reveal this as obvious ball busting, but I suppose there is a faint and dim possibility where someone actually follows through and books accommodations. Somehow. In Rocinha, and ends up in serious trouble as a result. And in that case I accept the critique. Until then, lighten up.I'm sorry, I didn't understand it was a joke. Regarding accommodation, it's actually popular among backpackers to stay in hostels in the favelas so that part was believable. Looking for cheap street hookers in Rocinha would be unhealthy but I'm sure some gringos actually tries that.
Houston Player
06-19-21, 09:44
No, not really.
Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.I'm sorry sir but it doesn't take much research to prove you are wrong. Most of the clinicas, prives, and termas are illegal. They are tolerated and allowed to operate but they remain illegal. Some boates depending on the setup are legal. The most successful of the venues pay bribes to the police in order operate. I've never witnessed or heard of a customer having an issue because I don't believe he is doing anything illegal it's the owner operators of the establishments that are breaking the law. I'm not trying to put a damper on anyone's pleasure and I still go to Brazil and enjoy all of the venues but I don't like false information being posted.
If we have any Brazilian attorneys on the board your input would be appreciated.
Vagabundo1
06-19-21, 13:01
Well she just came by after her other work we watched Colombiana because she is from MDE and we banged. She went back to sp. 250 r bbfscip.
That is just a link to some of her vids.
I usually will only pay 150 to a girl who lives here and I get turned down about 50%.
She's way Overdone with the boob job, pretty face, nice pussy but ass way bigger than I like.
She Prefers sp. Find her on Twitter if you like. She's no Mayara Rodrigues who I had 3 times in 2010 or so, or Yasmin mineira in 2015 when she was 18 and before her porn, and Yasmin Vianna in barao in 2011 RIP, and Elisa Sanchez in a apt in flamengo.
The first frame, WTF?
Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.Just to clarify. Clinicas and privées are not illegal if they just offers massage. They are not allowed to offer sexual services. Some clinicas makes some effort to look like they are legitimit massage places. They have massage benches, burn incense etc. If you look on the inside of all the f*ck rooms at Belprazer, Dudas etc they have signs telling it's prohibited to have sex in the rooms. In reality they do offers sex (there are a few clinicas that actually only offers massage and HJ).
The girls doesn't rent the rooms. They work for the privées. Normally the privê takes half of what is charged for the sessions. The privées have different rules, but many privées will fine the girls if they don't show up for work.
Member #4729
06-19-21, 15:16
In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.
Club 116,114.
My usual wingman has no interest in the favela urchins that I have developed a taste for and so declined to accompany me this given night, but I'm comfortable enough at this point to fly solo at least in the early evening. I have my uber drop me off at the Windsor Guanbara so I can walk a little bit and acclimate to the area before arriving at my target destination. It is a Friday night in Centro, approximately 19:00 hrs and very lively- bands playing, crowds gathering at outdoor tables to eat drink and be merry. It would appear that Centro Friday nights are a time of celebration at the end of the work week and the abandonment of the area by pedestrians does not occur until the following day.
I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior theécor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.
Terma 81.
I'm familiar with the area now, so the walk to are the Quitanda, 81 does not take long, but where on the map and in google street view Terma 81 should be, there is nothing. This Terma either no longer exists, is temporarily closed, or does not open on Fridays. Other mongers can advise.
Club 21 de Lux.
Is located in a narrow alleyway off of are Buenos Aires 21 called Beco das Cancelas or something similar. The two guys give me a funny look and say something in Porto that I don't understand as I enter and head up the stairs where a similarly befuddled man at the desks says something again in Porto I do not understand, repeating the word for man (Homem). Peeking into the Boate I gather very quickly that there are no mulheres on the premises and that "apenas homens" means that this club is either now a Gay club, or perhaps Friday night is Gay night. The attendant and door guys have a laugh as I make my retreat. Funny, the existing website for the club appeared hetero- but of course things change quickly.
Terma 502.
I lick my wounds and head to 502 where I run into a young mulatta I had sessioned with earlier in the week, not the one with the smelly hair, a cleaner nicer girl- but not quite as pretty. She was happy to see me, but not wanting to get in a rut, I was reluctant to indulge her and had my first beer of the evening to consider my options- finally deciding a quick dash to Whiskeria 65 would do no harm. The damage at the door after 1 beer is a measly 25. Well worth it for a look.
Terma 65.
It should be noted that 502 and 65 are both robe optional clubs (street clothes ok) which makes it really easy to duck in and out for recon purposes. Terma 65 also has a rotating stable of freelancers so you will get a different group of ladies just about every single night, which makes it great for repeats. Tonight was no exception and I was pleased at the number of new faces but found it hard to operate in the crowded boate. Again it seemed as if Friday is the night that the locals really fill up the place, and so the ratio was not great.
Nursing a beer down in the lounge I'm eventually approached by a super cute young lady of 19 years who had just arrived in Rio 3 days prior from Vitoria in Espirito Santo. She was a bit nervous about everything, but so, so cute, pretty smile, glasses, tight sexy body, young and fresh and when she started making out with me I knew it was on. She was not my usual spinner type, but agreed to my requests and so we headed to the cabine where she provided a fantastic session again with very passionate kissing, DATY, a couple of positions, BBBJ with COF and CIM at the end. Some of my leite ended up in her pinkish / reddish dyed hair and on her cute little glasses, and she disappeared after the ½ hour ostensibly to clean herself in a more private setting and never reappeared before I left so sadly I did not catch her name or get her whatsapp. Total damage at the desk was 305 reals.
Mab's.
I ubered back to Mab's to meet my erstwhile wingman and get some food. We've been hanging out at Mab's a lot recently and have to say the scene is looking good. Lots of talent especially at around 22:30 hrs although it's hit or miss. Some of the girls are asking 400 but can be easily coaxed down to 300 or even 250/200 if they are not picked off too soon. I saw one of my regulars there who is trying to make a ton of money before she heads back home to her rural city and don't care much to be a part of her work marathon so declined her invitations. My buddy found a girl to his liking, and since I didn't need to pop again, I headed home.
Next time I will try 116 at a different day / time and investigate MV30 and possibly Florida After. It appears that Terma Aquarius has closed and I'm not even certain about the other two, but only one way to know for sure.
Zebra Out.
I'm sorry sir but it doesn't take much research to prove you are wrong. Most of the clinicas, prives, and termas are illegal. They are tolerated and allowed to operate but they remain illegal. Some boates depending on the setup are legal. The most successful of the venues pay bribes to the police in order operate. I've never witnessed or heard of a customer having an issue because I don't believe he is doing anything illegal it's the owner operators of the establishments that are breaking the law. I'm not trying to put a damper on anyone's pleasure and I still go to Brazil and enjoy all of the venues but I don't like false information being posted.
If we have any Brazilian attorneys on the board your input would be appreciated.Yes, I stand corrected.
It's hard to describe a "shade of gray" when only using the words black and white. Perhaps a Brazilian lawyer could explain the employment status and compensation arrangements of the termas, prive and clinica girls. Obviously, "the house" is collecting the money on behalf of the girls. And yes, the girls must follow the rules.
My comment on black and white is not meant to be argumentative. It's been said many times on ISG that sex venues around the world operate with the tacit approval of authorities whether they are legal or not. A sex venue operating within the law might be shutdown for some reason or another. Mabs is the best example of Brazilian sex workers operating as legal free agents. I'm certain that the authorities could shut it down if it became too big of a scene or any other nuisance.
All anyone on this board cares about is that they won't get in trouble with the law. I also haven't heard of any Brazilian working girls going to jail.
In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas. I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.Do you see? Am I lying or am I crying? I'm crying if I gots to fuck up in there! The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. No parts left untold. Thanks! Some guys love it, but definitely not for the faint of heart! I would add that the termas of Copa (and other areas) are not just for tourists. Brazilians go to those as well, and they make up the primary clientele. Otherwise, those places could not survive.
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Exec Talent
06-19-21, 17:40
The reason for robes is so street clothes do not smell like perfume, another woman or sex. Smart GDPs do not wear perfume as they know their Brazilian patrons will not want to bring home the scent of another woman (Hoo-ah! Brazilian women take jealousy to a whole other level. Best to be avoided at all costs.
The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.
In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas...........
I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?
Member #4729
06-19-21, 21:16
That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?Thanks for your nice comment. The talent is similar to 502- which is to say the girls are cut from a rougher cloth than the Tier 1 scene. Mostly on the darker, meatier side- but with a few mignon magra scattered in there. From the little I observed their behavior was far raunchier and unrestricted than the other Terma's with more aggression and directness. I would for sure return, but never on a Friday night.
The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.
Exec Talent
06-20-21, 03:17
While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.And now Uber. Same purpose. Only places I care to drive a car are civilized countries like Germany and Switzerland.
Vagabundo1
06-20-21, 06:27
You should always have two addresses when in Rio, call them checkpoints 1 and 2. The first is.
Checkpoint 1.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20091-007•(21) 2121-1212. This is Hotel sao Francisco, or Hotel Atlantico Tower.
https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/hotel%20sao%20francisco/entity/CgsIzP-X4rKK1Y78ARAB?g2lb=2502548%2C2503781%2C4258168%2C4270442%2C4306835%2C4317915%2C4371335%2C4401769%2C4419364%2C4482438%2C4486153%2C4509341%2C4536454%2C4545890%2C4570333%2C4570416%2C4270859%2C4284970%2C4291517&hl=en-BR&gl=br&ssta=1&ap=aAE&q=hotel%20sao%20francisco&rp=EMz_l-KyitWO_AEQ1Of4tsyK-uQMOAJAAEgCogE5QmFycmEgZGEgVGlqdWNhLCBSaW8gZGUgSmFuZWlybyAtIFN0YXRlIG9mIFJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvwAEDyAEA&ictx=1&ved=0CAAQ5JsGahcKEwiYq_Dtu6XxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBw&utm_campaign=sharing&utm_medium=link&utm_source=htls&ts=CAESABogCgIaABIaEhQKBwjlDxAGGBUSBwjlDxAGGBYYATICEAAqCQoFOgNCUkwaAA
Checkpoint 2.
Av Gastao Senges 395.
Checkpoint 3.
Hotel Panda, Rua Sao Clemente 200 block.
Discussion.
If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.
At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top qualilty talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing. The goal of mongering, the option of which you are buying is the mini relationship, IE, the pernoite a few times a week, for weeks or months on end, a trip to buzios once a month, the new honeymoon once a quarter, new 19 year old just fell in love vibe. The first move is to either hotel Atlántico tower as checkpoint 1 or to Transamerica (checkpoint 2). Checkpoint 3 is Hotel Panda, the best hotel in Rio, in the best local in rio. Botafogo is always better than Copa. It is not a tourist area, it is an upper middle class integrated (near favela Santa Marta) area, where criminals do NOT come looking for gringo tourists.
You're at 10,000 feet and descending.
You don't have a hotel booked.
Where do you tell your uber to go?
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95.
And figure it the fuck out from there, because you're codename Vagabundo.
That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?
Family1234
06-20-21, 17:02
I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?
Member #4729
06-20-21, 21:39
If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.
At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top quality talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing. Great advice, thanks.
It looks like an MV30, T31,116 circuit could yield fruit.
I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?Vila Mimosa, Rua Soteiro dos Reis would be The perfect place for you.
Vagabundo1
06-20-21, 22:27
If you are really a NATO military active duty or veteran, I will help you. PM me.
Tell me about Pattaya Beach, especially if you did it as a member of a military service.
I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?
DreamCarnarvon
06-21-21, 00:22
In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.
Club 116,114.I just call them for what they are, 'trash clubs'. Visited all of them back in October last year, including Club 114 & 116. Your description of the places are spot on. These places are definitely not for the faint of hearts. Between the filthy infrastructures and the trashy women, I don't know what's worse. Be prepared as even decent looking girls are hard to come by. Most are overaged and below average on looks. I had only 3 sessions out of the 30 or so visits over a span of 2 months. I now consider them to be pure luck. The third pull ended up being a dud. Price-wise they are similar to the Centro casas / prives. Zebra, there a few others you didn't visit. I will list the ones I know below. I'm only writing about them because they are rarely discussed, other than by V. Its another source for women for future Rio mongers who want to broaden their horizon beyond the usual termas and casas / prives. That said, for the best quality in the nighttime, the tier 1 termas are the best option. For the best bang for your buck, the casas / prives are very budget friendly with good girl quality and great service.
1) Rua Uruguaiana, 210 - IMO this one is the best of the bunch but that not saying much. Mulatas mostly, ranging from young and in decent shape to 30's with big guts. One of my successful session was from here. A 19 yr old, short, skinny mulata. She's a single mother with a BF. Lived two hours away. Face 6. 5/10. She was nice if not a bit shy. Super GFE lots of hugging and DFK. During sex she almost went bareback on me. It was tempting but in that place I thought better and went for covered. 110 reais for 40 minutes. The mistake pull was also occurred here. A 21 yr old, short average body mulata. I thought she looked hot inside the club. After some eye contact, she came over and we did some basic chitchat. I thought we had some good chemistry. She told me she could do it onsite or in a motel. She quoted me 150 reais to go outside. So I took her offer since I rather be in the comfort of my apt over the filthy onsite rooms. In better lighting outside however, I immediately had buyers remorse, as she wasn't as hot as I thought. But she was still a 7.5-8/10. Along the way, she tells me her birthday is the next day. She tells me she hadn't eaten anything all day. I normally never do this, but since it was her birthday, we stopped by a Mequi and I bought her some food. Once at my place we undressed and she started with a lackluster BBBJ. OK, that's OK I thought. As she came to lay next to me, I went in to kiss her. But she refused. When I asked her why, she said nobody kisses. Whatever that means. I call her out on her BS and she relents. But it was too late, the mood had already been ruined. I gave her the 150 reais and kicked her out. She was a nice girl but I made the rookie mistake of not questioning on details beforehand.
2) are. The Alfândega, 119 - Located on the opposite end of Terma 502. This one is just ok. Doesn't have as many girls as the above. Sessioned only once here and it was a gem. Rafaela was in her 20's, short, slighty chubby morena. Initially I wasn't really into her. She was more on the cute side than beautiful, a solid 7/10. But her bubbly personality and her infectious smile won me over. The onsite shower was filthy so I opted not to take a shower. The room was terribly dim but the bed was big enough for a threesome. Rafeala provided one of the more stellar sessions I've had. She was delicious to kiss. She could go slow and soft or full on DFK. I could've made out with her for the entire session and it would've worth every cent. Her BBBJ was amazing. Her pussy was tight and ever tighter in doggy. Felt like I was anal fucking her. Between that and her big round butt, it didn't take long for me to pop. 110 reais for 40 minutes.
3) Praça Monte Castelo, 26 - Only went here once. I got there late and they were about to close but they allowed me in. I was the only client there. There were 4 girls, one of which was a young white cutie. None of them approached me. They were preparing to leave. I was deciding on whether if I should call her over or not, but I got asked by another girl if I was going to choose anyone and that they are closing. So I left. Do I regret not pulling the trigger? No, not really.
4) Rua Uruguaiana, 145, Rua the Conceição, 114 and 116,4 clubs on Rua Leandro Martins. Ok I am going to group these 7 together as the girl quality in them are pretty much the same in my eyes. The majority of the girls are out of shape, overaged and in the 5-6/10 range. The very few pretty young ones I did happen to see (2 or so), they all had attached themselves to someone and didn't even look my way. I never spent more than 5 minutes in each of them.
Rio (and to lesser extent in sao paulo), the hottest women are the non-pros. I'm rapidly upping my portugues to become fluent. And since I'm not exactly prince charming, my portugues really needs to be on point. I was able to hold basic convos with the clinica girls this last time and that was big confidence booster. But not being able to carry a deeper and more complicated one was really frustrating. Literally like after 10 minutes I'd reach the limit of my vocab. That's fine in the clinicas when I'm finished a bit earily, and we chitchat for the remaining 5-10 minutes. But that's not going to fly when I'm trying to pickup a non-pro on the beach or on a night out.
And I hardly met any girl who spoke decent English in Sao Paulo. The only one was a young cute receptionist I met at at a casa in Santo Andre. Along with one of the working girls (who spoke no English), the three of us had a long fun chat, half in Portuguese, half in English. It was the type of meaningful convo I was looking for which was beyond the basic small chitchat. Maybe if I had actively looked I would of found some. But I was too busy running around the clinicas. I was completely satisfied with the amount of quality girls and services I was getting in the clinicas that I didn't find the need to look for non-pros. I need to find a balance I'm comfortable with and dedicate some time away from mongering. I was in this consistent 'which clinicia I should go next, which girl I need fuck' mode. Haha. Anyone else in the same mindset as me? Perhaps dedicate M-F daytime to mongering and the weekends for non-pros??
SinfullyKorean
06-21-21, 03:52
I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?Wow. Please read first. Then post questions. You're trip is in Sept. There's plenty of time to read some excellent field reports. How long's your trip?
Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that since I still would like to fuck her. I plan on getting a phone this week with a Brazilian phone number, so I can curb the chance that the girls hit me with the gringo tax.
Vagabundo1
06-22-21, 14:10
SIM Chips.
Phone / Getting a Sim " chippee": Go to Central. Buy the Vivo, as it apparently gets better signal. Then you can charge the number "recarga" at any pharma, kiosk, etc, in order to keep your chip charged. You can also get chips for Tim, claro, etc. The cost is 10 reais, or 17 reais. Tell them you do not have a CPF, and that you want them to "cadastrar". You will see any number of women or sometimes men walking around with little trays with Tim, Claro, or Vivo. Getting a Brazilian number is key for game on zap, which is to say, essential.
116/ trash casas / darkside.
The best quality come out after 19 h, and especially after 22 h. If you are 4 x 4 already, you should go to 116 and T31. Zebra's writing is hemingway-esque and the praise is due. For those of us who have been to Captain Tony's in Key West, or watched Hemingway and Gellhorn, we would know: Hemingway would go to both 4 x4 and 116, probably to VM too, albeit with a guide and a shotgun.
Follow up on 116.
You should always have two addresses when in Rio, call them checkpoints 1 and 2. The first is.
Checkpoint 1.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20091-007(21) 2121-1212. This is Hotel sao Francisco, or Hotel Atlantico Tower.
https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/hotel%20sao%20francisco/entity/CgsIzP-X4rKK1Y78ARAB?g2lb=2502548%2C2503781%2C4258168%2C4270442%2C4306835%2C4317915%2C4371335%2C4401769%2C4419364%2C4482438%2C4486153%2C4509341%2C4536454%2C4545890%2C4570333%2C4570416%2C4270859%2C4284970%2C4291517&hl=en-BR&gl=br&ssta=1&ap=aAE&q=hotel%20sao%20francisco&rp=EMz_l-KyitWO_AEQ1Of4tsyK-uQMOAJAAEgCogE5QmFycmEgZGEgVGlqdWNhLCBSaW8gZGUgSmFuZWlybyAtIFN0YXRlIG9mIFJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvwAEDyAEA&ictx=1&ved=0CAAQ5JsGahcKEwiYq_Dtu6XxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBw&utm_campaign=sharing&utm_medium=link&utm_source=htls&ts=CAESABogCgIaABIaEhQKBwjlDxAGGBUSBwjlDxAGGBYYATICEAAqCQoFOgNCUkwaAA
Checkpoint 2...
Mr Enternational
06-22-21, 15:24
Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that Well you damn well should have said something. She said that because a lot of guys that are not in country contact them wasting their time. This was told to me by a chick I hit up in Cuiaba the same way. Hell she even thought I was Brazilian when we met up and asked how I got the strange number because she wants one too.
If she had known you were a serious customer she would have not given you that price. I do not know how well your Portuguese is, but if you have a local number and do not write the language well they will still know you are not from there.
Member #4729
06-22-21, 16:17
I just call them for what they are, 'trash clubs'. Visited all of them back in October last year, including Club 114 & 116. Your description of the places are spot on. These places are definitely not for the faint of hearts. Between the filthy infrastructures and the trashy women, I don't know what's worse. Be prepared as even decent looking girls are hard to come by. Most are overaged and below average on looks. I had only 3 sessions out of the 30 or so visits over a span of 2 months. I now consider them to be pure luck. The third pull ended up being a dud. Price-wise they are similar to the Centro casas / prives. Zebra, there a few others you didn't visit. I will list the ones I know below. I'm only writing about them because they are rarely discussed, other than by V. Its another source for women for future Rio mongers who want to broaden their horizon beyond the usual termas and casas / prives. That said, for the best quality in the nighttime, the tier 1 termas are the best option. For the best bang for your buck, the casas / prives are very budget friendly with good girl quality and great service.This a great informative post Mr DreamC, I really appreciate the time and detail and useful recon- I will come back to this when I have more attention and take some notes to use in the field.
Well you damn well should have said something. She said that because a lot of guys that are not in country contact them wasting their time. This was told to me by a chick I hit up in Cuiaba the same way. Hell she even thought I was Brazilian when we met up and asked how I got the strange number because she wants one too.
If she had known you were a serious customer she would have not given you that price. I do not know how well your Portuguese is, but if you have a local number and do not write the language well they will still know you are not from there.There is an interesting thread on gpguia, where a guy with two phone numbers called three girls, who had ads on Private55 and some other site like Fatalmodel. Every time when he was asked where he found her and he said Private55, the price was higher. Private55 is considered more upscale/premium than the other site the girls had their ads.
Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that since I still would like to fuck her. I plan on getting a phone this week with a Brazilian phone number, so I can curb the chance that the girls hit me with the gringo tax.Did you tell her you found her on GParena?
SIM Chips.
Phone / Getting a Sim " chippee": Go to Central. Buy the Vivo, as it apparently gets better signal. Then you can charge the number "recarga" at any pharma, kiosk, etc, in order to keep your chip charged. You can also get chips for Tim, claro, etc. The cost is 10 reais, or 17 reais. Tell them you do not have a CPF, and that you want them to "cadastrar". You will see any number of women or sometimes men walking around with little trays with Tim, Claro, or Vivo. Getting a Brazilian number is key for game on zap, which is to say, essential.
.Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.
DreamCarnarvon
06-22-21, 20:37
Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.I've had my Brazilian number since 2019 with 'Oi'. I only recharge it when I am in Brazil. Never recharged it once while I was outside of Brazil. Can't speak for the other operators.
TiaVoyage25
06-22-21, 22:05
Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.
3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.
4.) If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success.
5.) I did my due diligence and explored the darkside termas. I was not a fan. At all. For me, mongering is about quality and convenience. I found them to be dirty and the talent lacking for my tastes (brancas). Yes, there are brancas there, but it is like finding a diamond in the rough, which violates the principle of convenience. I'm ok with paying more for the convenience of 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and even Centaurus. Experienced mongers looking for a bargain deal will of course disagree with me on this by stating that there is quality on the darkside and that the girls at these other termas are not much better for the price. To that I say this: if the average in a darkside termas is a 4 (a huge stretch BTW), while the average in a tier 1 terma is a 6, I'd rather be harassed and annoyed by 6's in a comfortable and clean environment where I can more easily find the 8+ that I am looking for. And yes, I am willing to pay for it because it is my money to spend.
But TIA, don't you rave about Santa Fe in Bogota which is known to be dirty and dangerous? Absolutely, but SF clubs are 1.) very safe and mostly clean and 2.) the talent there is some of the best I have ever seen, consistently. The darkside termas of Rio are not the same. I'd go to these darkside termas more if the quality was worth it for my tastes, but its just not there. It is worth noting for those familiar with Bogota that the girls who work in SF are the same ones who work in the more expensive northern clubs. The dynamic doesn't seem to be the same here in Rio, as the quality difference between darkside and even MC is so vast. There's no difference between Lidos (Zona T) and Troya (Santa Fe) on a Friday night in Bogota.
Bottom line: if you are a newbie to Rio, are interested primarily in brancas, and simply want the convenience of higher quality laid out for you in a comfortable environment, stick to 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and Centaurus. You will pay more for this experience. Also BarraVIPs. Nothing but positive experiences with it so far.
6.) I still plan to visit the local massage places to see which ones offer FS, perhaps to help with continuous updates to World Traveler's map.
7.) Admittedly, I have not checked out DV or Mabs yet. Still on the list.
8.) Heading to SP soon. Talked to SK about his experiences there and am looking forward to it. The clinicas and places like Connections / Scandallo seem to be more my vibe. Quality and convenience.
Vagabundo1
06-22-21, 22:05
You keep it on your whatsapp. Use both whatsapp and zapbiz. Get a google phone which allows multiple users. With 4 users and using both zaps, you can have 8 numbers. Keeping the chip alive itself may not be necessary.
As we say, I don't do IT, and I can't help stupid.
I've had my Brazilian number since 2019 with 'Oi'. I only recharge it when I am in Brazil. Never recharged it once while I was outside of Brazil. Can't speak for the other operators.
Vagabundo1
06-22-21, 22:18
I would strongly suggest the terma, Mosaico, after midnight, and really best after 2 AM. It is in VM.
I also strongly suggest the prives, which you seem on your way to doing, especially the top tier prives.
Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.
3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.
4.) If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success..
5.) I did my due diligence and explored the darkside termas. I was not a fan. At all. For me, mongering is about quality and convenience. I found them to be dirty and the talent lacking for my tastes (brancas). Yes, there are brancas there, but it is like finding a diamond in the rough, which violates the principle of convenience. I'm ok with paying more for the convenience of 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and even Centaurus. Experienced mongers looking for a bargain deal will of course disagree with me on this by stating that there is quality on the darkside and that the girls at these other termas are not much better for the price. To that I say this: if the average in a darkside termas is a 4 (a huge stretch BTW), while the average in a tier 1 terma is a 6, I'd rather be harassed and annoyed by 6's in a comfortable and clean environment where I can more easily find the 8+ that I am looking for. And yes, I am willing to pay for it because it is my money to spend.
Bottom line: if you are a newbie to Rio, are interested primarily in brancas, and simply want the convenience of higher quality laid out for you in a comfortable environment, stick to 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and Centaurus. You will pay more for this experience. Also BarraVIPs. Nothing but positive experiences with it so far.
.Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.
Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.Some things are better lived vicariously!
Mr Enternational
06-22-21, 23:31
Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.Sure there is. Etopuponline. But for me, since the invention of whatsapp and T-mobile's free international internet, having a Brazilian SIM went the way of the dodo bird about 8-10 years ago.
UniversalX
06-23-21, 01:54
Sure there is. Etopuponline. But for me, since the invention of whatsapp and T-mobile's free international internet, having a Brazilian SIM went the way of the dodo bird about 8-10 years ago.So True. I concur, unless you actually understand and speak fluent Portuguese and want the have a verbal conversation there is no reason to have a Brazilian SIM. Generally all GP's use WhatsApp or Zap (or other internet / WiFi based messaging service), all you need is an international internet access plan from your Cellphone provider or from any number of Cellular Plan providers.
But if you wish its easy to get a Brazilian SIM Card, just bring your passport when going to any one of The four largest mobile phone companies in Brazil are Vivo (Telefnica / Portugal Telecom), Claro (Amrica Movil), TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile) and Oi (Telemar) located in the Major malls.
also read http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2499906&viewfull=1#post2499906
Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.I 100% agree with this post.
The tier 1 termas are such good value (for my level of cleanliness and safety) plus prives.
(SP clinica and boates cleanliness / convenience / level of girls are it's biggest strengths and the only thing that give rio it's run for it's money).
I'm not a neat freak or anything like that but there's a line that I personally won't go below and everyone has that line it's just higher or lower for different folks.
Trying out some non-pros would definitely be a better adventure I believe.
From what I gather the poster who stay for extended period of times in rio, it makes more sense to try out everything rio has to offer and save some cash and earn some interesting stories along the way.
(there are certain days / times to go to different termas / clinicas and if you time it right you definitely can score big time).
But for posters like myself who will only be there for 8 days or so it might not be as lucrative as the clock is always ticking and the days really fly by when you're having a great time!
UniversalX
06-23-21, 02:19
3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.Don't forget one major tourist attraction Monumento Natural dos Morros do Po de Acar e the Urca (aka Sugarloaf Mountain) https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sugarloaf+mountain+rio+de+janeiro&FORM=HDRSC3 plus all the local beaches.
Other considerations (architectural) if time permits - Niteroi Contemporary Art Museum, Museu do Amanha (Museum of Tomorrow, and Rio de Janeiro Cathedral (Catedral de So Sebastio do Rio de Janeiro).
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 04:02
Great nigth out with ' the boys'.
Miamiboy.
Tia.
Zebra.
Like 4 superheros we mongered over from 65 to 44.
All that is written is true, it is a good venue.
I got like 10 numbers.
I am back at the love shak with Monique.
Look, all you superheros, vagabundo only wants world peace, and a few thousand or maybe a million concubines.
As we are all offloading cash from the ships which regularly flow into Rio like moonrakers it makes no difference.
Vagabundo is watching gia derza anally ploughed by a preto while he prepares to plough a pretinha.
And this time of year, the hold outs for pernoite at the tier 1 termas are coming around.
Cash is king.
300 pernoite is the programa, and it will be a 24 hour sessiion.
Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.
Some things are better lived vicariously!Very true but I have done enough vicarious shit in my 20's and 30's to last a lifetime. I am till suprised how I am alive, how I have yet to be robbed and beaten or how I was able out of some jams.
Today, I have the money and the wisdom to keep a low profile and just enjoy my time at a nicer joint that meet my standard.
Let the young, dumb and full of cum types enjoy their daring adventures 🤣.
The Critic
06-23-21, 05:23
Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses. If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success. Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. The problem is do they want to speak to you?? Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they have a desire to speak to you in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.
For those who are working in a large company with a Brazilian office or have a Friend who is Brazilian, connect with them. Again, this is your non-mongering time. I have had friends refer me to a Brazilians who they worked with in country while on a contract to hang with. They contacted their contact indicated I was visiting, and the contact showed me the town once I arrived. They knew or had a better idea of the locations where Brazilian patrons have likelihood of knowing ESL. (I. E. , Company X happy hour at Restaurant&bar X).
Just like in the States some people of other nationalities speak English but if you ask them a question, they indicate they do not understand you. In most cases they do not want to be bothered with you.
Haven't you been for example. The grocery store and the cashier utters something to you like "are you a frequent store discount member?" or instructions you do not understand in Portuguese to which you do not know what is being said looking bewildered and a customer in line behind steps up recognizing you don't understand and comes to your aid and translates the cashier's question or instructions?? Yes, it probably happens to everyone at some point. Would said customer if you walked up to them cold and asked a question would respond? Who knows but since you were holding up the line and their desire to get out of the store they stepped up to translate and help you so the line could start moving again. LOL.
Finally some friends and I were in Leme at Restaurante Marius Degustare (http://marius.com.br/) and a nice looking Carioca asked my friend if he was from Texas since he had a Houston Rockets Jersey and 6'9 (probably thought he was a player) anyway she initiated contact, spoke English because she had a "desire" to converse with my friend. They did eventually exchange numbers but nothing never happened since we were flying out the next day.
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 05:44
Codename Vagabundo executed a movement to contact by the 19 h bus from Barra.
As he pushed to centro, team ISG -- fuck you-- was hovering like demons in the night.
The night was rainy. Vagabundo had on a Goretex Parka, over a Rio Lifeguard red rash guard shirt, and bombeiro pants with a rip in his crotch, letting his nuts hang out, a little something for the ladies. He had an invicta blade in the pocket, expertly sharpened in a little shop in Lapa off Riachuelo. The other sharpening services suck.
He also carried a SOG Seal Strike inside his waistband.
Heading into centro, TIA, Miami, and Zebra stated their pos at 65, where Zebra had already torpedoed a carioca hole or three.
From checkpoint 65, just a block north of a big ass church, and two blocks west of the Tribunal Maritimo, which adjudicates all maritime disputes in Brazil, SEAL TEAM ISG, with a Swiss Guard liaison headed West towards 4 x4.
One wag mentioned club 21, some new gay club, which sounded pretty gay, but since the team was headed to 44, it was not gay at all, just a laughing matter.
A sniper fired off a few suppressed rounds, but Vagabundo threw a HC smoke, and TIA put on his thermals and whacked the aggressor with a few silenced shots. Zebra, being a endangered species, took cover.
That was all bullshit. Just a typical Hemingway esque lie. All the great writers are liars.
After punching out the doormen, and tossing their bodies in the bay, our team of 4 heros, made their way up to the 3 d floor, the main boate.
Vagabundo got like 10 numbers.
Zebra, being a animal from the fields of Africa, sessioned again.
Miami being from Miami, fucked a hot little number, a morena with a tight little size zero body. Vagabundo got her number, and vowed to turn her into a asset for the Vatican intelligence services.
TIA well, he probably sessioned too, but Vagabundo has been smoking whacky tabaccy, on Copperhead Road.
Meanwhile, Gato1 and Mexidan were in VM. Vagabundo missed mongering with his quick reaction force. Mexidan and Gato1 likely had a orgy with Eliza Sanches who is seen in VM often. Then Gato1 and Mexidan executed a uber mobile infiltration to 65, where they also speared the assholes pussies and mouths of likely some of the same holes used by Zebra.
From there, Vagabundo got a indriver and picked up Monique, took her home to Transamerica, where we are watching Dom, but Vagabundo is plotting to fuck all those sweet 4 x4 girls, including some super hotties who have been resisting the charms of our hero, Vagabundo, who promised to take them to Arrail or Buzios and fotograph their tight little asses in the sunlight for their instagram bunda content.
Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. The problem is do they want to speak to you?? Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they have a desire to speak to you in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.If you're hell bent on courting a non-pro, Sampa is better than Rio, and Brasilia is better than Sampa, and, I think, the ultimate place to find an English-speaking non-pro IMHO. Whenever I've met denizens of the Capital in my travels, all of them spoke English. There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience.
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 05:58
Vagabundo must be careful not to disclose sources for the Vatican intelligence services.
But he met a Brazilian Navy Lieutenant, female type.
***** spoke good English, but had a little mulata kid, and was basically looking for a visa for her boss and admiral, and her sister, a nun, and then the baby daddy sued.
If you are looking for non pros, you must go to the rich temples.
Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. The problem is do they want to speak to you?? Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they have a desire to speak to you in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.
For those who are working in a large company with a Brazilian office or have a Friend who is Brazilian, connect with them. Again, this is your non-mongering time. I have had friends refer me to a Brazilians who they worked with in country while on a contract to hang with. They contacted their contact indicated I was visiting, and the contact showed me the town once I arrived. They knew or had a better idea of the locations where Brazilian patrons have likelihood of knowing ESL. (I. E. , Company X happy hour at Restaurant&bar X)..
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 11:39
Always keep this card on your phone and be ready to suggest meeting there, for pro or non pro.
Its like the AMEX for bunda.
Trust me.
Don't make codename VAGABUNDO send pictures.
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 11:48
He was born in 502.
If you want her contact PM me.
This is the hooker who gave me my callsign, Vagabundo.
She'd love to have as much dick up her ass as humanly possible, haha.
Exec Talent
06-23-21, 11:49
Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone.As someone who has lived among Brazilians for extended periods of time and over a long period of time, this statement is false. You can stop reading everything after.
It get's old reading nonsense from people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 11:52
1. Netflix.
2. Netflix.
3. Your government could send you to a language class, but you will come out with diplomatic Portuguese, and miss all the fun of poxa, caralho, eita.
4. Felipe Ret videos, translate the verse.
5. Take the language class at PUC-Rio. Br, like Bubba Boy advised. In person, when available. Serves the double purpose of meeting the locals.
6. Netflix.
7. Local girlfirend, Netflix.
8 Netflix at home in Wisconson, Porto audio / English subtitles, or vice versa.
9. Netflix, Amazon, Dom.
10. Netflix.
Finally some friends and I were in Leme at Restaurante Marius Degustare (http://marius.com.br/) and a nice looking Carioca asked my friend if he was from Texas since he had a Houston Rockets Jersey and 6'9 (probably thought he was a player) anyway she initiated contact, spoke English because she had a "desire" to converse with my friend. They did eventually exchange numbers but nothing never happened since we were flying out the next day.
Very true but I have done enough vicarious shit in my 20's and 30's to last a lifetime. I am till suprised how I am alive, how I have yet to be robbed and beaten or how I was able out of some jams. Today, I have the money and the wisdom to keep a low profile and just enjoy my time at a nicer joint that meet my standard.Totally don't understand your response. Do you understand what "vicarious" means? To live vicariously is to experience through the imagination or through the actions of others. So how could you have been endangering yourself by "doing vicarious shit"? But in the end, we agree. Leave the "dark side" to those who dare to go there!
Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. The problem is do they want to speak to you?? Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they have a desire to speak to you in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.My observation is if you are 45 & under with some game, you can fit in most clubs geared to 20 somethings. You can get by if you are older if you look younger and are in good shape. Otherwise, you will look like the creepy, old foreign guy at the club. That is if they let you in. LOL.
Many English speaking non-pros in less wealthy countries are intrigued by gringos. That is one of the reasons they studied English and did well. It opens up opportunities for them. I would speak English with my buddies (yes, wingmen are still valuable) and you can see the English-speaking girls' antennas go up. If they will speak to you in English for awhile, that is obviously a good sign. Now some venues are known as pick-up clubs others less so. As always, the rest is how you play it.
I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.I've found formal tours of Rio to be very overpriced. They take advantage of the fact tourists staying at the beach either do not know local prices or highly value being guided around. The hotels are steering people to these tours.
Since many mongers will be jutting around around Rio anyway, you can make an "off-book" arrangement with an Uber driver. Make a list of sites and show it to him / her. It doesn't take too much Portuguese to work this out. Find an Uber driver that you like and say something like "cuanto por seis horas?" (or whatever hours you prefer) and show them a feasible list of locations. They'll figure out the sequence based on location and traffic.
Logistically, I don't remember the layout of Cristo Redentor or Sugarloaf, but they should be able to wait in the parking lot. There is a trust factor though. You might have to pay some drivers as you go. I paid my guy 40 USA Dollars and he didn't seem too worried about being paid at the end. We also had each other's phone numbers in case I couldn't find him at the drop zone. I did take him to lunch, but I like hanging with locals. I usually find a cool Uber driver my first day or two. It's actually not unusual for an Uber driver in Brazil to hand you a card. Same guy drove me to GIG airport.
If you really want an English-speaking guide, you might be able to find a local guy with a car who is reasonable on Tripadvisor. Obviously, this is all cheaper if you are with a bud or two.
Always keep this card on your phone and be ready to suggest meeting there, for pro or non pro.
Its like the AMEX for bunda.
Trust me.
Don't make codename VAGABUNDO send pictures.Be sure to bring your bamboo rod!
Totally don't understand your response. Do you understand what "vicarious" means? To live vicariously is to experience through the imagination or through the actions of others. So how could you have been endangering yourself by "doing vicarious shit"? But in the end, we agree. Leave the "dark side" to those who dare to go there!I knew a Vicar in Rio that took male visitors to the "dark side" termas for research purposes. I thought that was what you were talking about. Wink.
The Critic
06-23-21, 17:44
As someone who has lived among Brazilians for extended periods of time and over a long period of time, this statement is false. You can stop reading everything after.
It get's old reading nonsense from people who have no idea what they are talking about.Really! Just like that you speak and we take it as fact. BS simply BS. What makes it so wrong? Three sentences to claim a post is totally without merit. Wow. No explanation of a countervailing point of view. I simply posted my real experiences in Rio based on another posters comments.
If you're hell bent on courting a non-pro, Sampa is better than Rio, and Brasilia is better than Sampa, and, I think, the ultimate place to find an English-speaking non-pro IMHO. Whenever I've met denizens of the Capital in my travels, all of them spoke English. There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience.It's a lot of work and no one should expect instant gratification. It also depends on whether you can handle yourself with women back home. However, the Brazilian women in second tier cities are generally friendlier to foreign men. Think Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre, Brasilia etc.
If you have reasons to be in Brazil that takes you down there often and / or have Brazilian friends and colleagues, this helps considerably.
I don't know if Rio non-pros are still concerned with the stigma of socializing with foreign men. It was notably true during the height of Rio's mongering glory in the 2000's.
Quoting Xpartan: "There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience. " Truer words have never been spoken.
TiaVoyage25
06-23-21, 18:42
To VB's report regarding last night's festivities. For my tastes, I actually thought 65 had better quality last night overall but MiamiBoy disagreed with me. Both 4 x4 and 65 were pretty decent overall, though the quality started to decline after 9:30 pm or so. This just goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Sessioned with a pretty branca at 4 x4. Well, mostly branca. Perhaps 75% with the rest being native of some type but I have no idea. Amazing GFE, though I didn't ask for it. BBBJ, (covered) anal, and COF. Truly enthusiastic and she put on a great performance. You really get a good bang for your buck at 4 x4 as the damage was under R500. This included several drinks over the course of 3-4 hours and 30 minutes with the girl in the standard cabin. As I have previously stated, the bang for the buck is not what I seek. I look for quality and convenience. 4 x4 seems to be the perfect combination thereof, despite my initial observations.
About to go check out a prive, then perhaps head to a termas tonight (which I will go to remains unknown).
Heading to SP next week.
To VB's report regarding last night's festivities. For my tastes, I actually thought 65 had better quality last night overall but MiamiBoy disagreed with me. Both 4 x4 and 65 were pretty decent overall, though the quality started to decline after 9:30 pm or so. This just goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Sessioned with a pretty branca at 4 x4. Well, mostly branca. Perhaps 75% with the rest being native of some type but I have no idea. Amazing GFE, though I didn't ask for it. BBBJ, (covered) anal, and COF. Truly enthusiastic and she put on a great performance. You really get a good bang for your buck at 4 x4 as the damage was under R500. This included several drinks over the course of 3-4 hours and 30 minutes with the girl in the standard cabin. As I have previously stated, the bang for the buck is not what I seek. I look for quality and convenience. 4 x4 seems to be the perfect combination thereof, despite my initial observations.Great report and great news to hear that 4 x 4 and 65 are getting back in form.
From my experience of many nights at 4 x 4, it is hot between 5 and 10 pm with the peak time in the middle. This synchronizes with the schedules of the local businessmen. It's easy to tell the wife or girlfriend that you are going out for drinks with co-workers. Boys will be boys and Brasileiros will be Brasileiros! LOL.
It's been a while since I've written a trip report. I felt that I couldn't add any value since I mainly do my own thing in Brazil. This will probably be more for the newbies but maybe some of the information will help some vets. While in Brazil I didn't read any ISG reports so if I repeat some information, please forgive me.
Pre trip. For those of us living in the USA We are so lucky. Since you need a negative pcr test 72 hours before departure, we have lots of choices. I seen prices low to very high but I took the test at the local CVS. When I called the assistant told me the test was free and normally the results come back within one or two days. Took the test and early morning on the second day I got my negative result back. Nothing beats free.
For piece of mind, I did get travel insurance with covid coverage. I went with Seven Corners with a cost of $300.00 usd for twelve days. Fortunately I didn't have to use it.
Flt. I flew on United. Between the booking and actual flight, the schedule changed about five times before United cancelled their flights to Rio. I believe they said the cancellation would be in effect until at least August. I rebooked with the following schedule on United. Lax-iah-gru-sdu which worked out fine with me since I like flying into sdu more than gig. For those of you that don't know the lay of the land and your booking got cancelled into gig, get the flight to sdu. This airport is just outside of centro and your ride to Copacabana, Ipanema, etc will be shorter and cheaper.
Sim card. Here's an option for those guys who like using a local sim card to keep their real number away from the girls. Also, It's cheaper than the $10.00 usd a day that At&t charges. While in Centro, go to Rio Branco 156. Yes that are / be 156. Near the back of the building there is a Vivo store. You don't need to sign in as you are not using the elevator. Here you can choose different plans. There are no tourist sim card that I know of so this comes pretty close. They have a seven day, 15 day, or monthly plans. You can go to the Vivo Brazil website for prices and plans. You do need to show your passport so please don't forget it. The person helping me took care of everything. Switching the sim card and activating the local card. The person helping me didn't speak English and my Portuguese still sucks but there are people there that do speak English. I bought the 15 day card and charged it up with are $100.00 and it worked like a charm. It even worked in most metro stations.
Metro card. For those of you intimidated by the self serve ticket machine, don't worry, there's a button for English to make it very easy to purchase. The card is good for the metro, vlt, boat, and buses.
TiaVoyage25
06-23-21, 19:24
For piece of mind, I did get travel insurance with covid coverage. I went with Seven Corners with a cost of $300.00 usd for twelve days. Fortunately I didn't have to use it.
What kind of plan did you get? Mine is like 80 USD for a month and it seems to be very comprehensive, though fortunately I have not had to use it as well. I even got the COVID coverage which, as a young man, seemed wholly unnecessary.
Termas in no particular order. My ratings and side comments. Standard = Deep kissing, bbj and covered full service. Great = standard + extra little things. Exceptional = standard + great + great connection.
Mahattan Good. About 12-14 girls. Average to slightly above average in looks. I did one girl who I met there last year. Her service was great. She let me bb to completion. One of the few times at the venue. Usually the bb happens if they come back to the hotel with me.
Monte Carlo. Weak. Only 3 girls on site. Average looking. To be fair, I did go on Saturday the Brazilian Valentine's day so I figured it would be weak.
4 x4. Really good. Anywhere from 25-40 girls there. Above average in looks. I took three girls from here. One was standard, the other two were great. Of the two one was a tall blond about 5'10" and slim. I told her she looked like a model and she told me she did work as a model but the pressures of modeling wasn't for her. The second was probably the cutest girls I have seen on this trip. She had black hair and about 5'2". What amazed me was not only did she worked at 4 x4, she was also on the Fatal model website. For those that don't know, it's basically an escort site. She worked everyday so I thought the session wouldn't be up to par but to my delight, she was a sweetheart.
65. Good. About 12-15 girls average to slightly above average. Had two sessions here. First was sub standard. There were red flags because in the boite instead of deep kissing she gave pecks. I told her I wouldn't take her up because of her lack of kissing. She promised it would be different in the room. Didn't happen but at least she did everything else okay. The second girl gave standard service.
Mv30. Closed. I went by there twice. Don't know if it's temporary or permanent.
502 Weak. Only three girls with average looks. I went on a Monday and they told me to come back on Thursday for more girls. I never made it back.
Solarium. Very good. About 14 girls slightly above average. This is the only place where I took a girl back to my hotel. I went on a Saturday and had such a good connection with this girl I asked if she wanted to have lunch on Sunday. We spent about 7 hours together that Sunday so yes, exceptional service.
Aeroporto. Closed. Doesn't look like it will open.
Annes msg. Good. About 8-10 girls in the lineup. The photos on their website looked better than the actual girls. To be fair they don't show the faces. The girl I choose gave the standard service and since it a little far, I didn't go back. I do like Tijuca though. Seems like a happening place.
Bel Prazer. Very good with lots of girls. Again the photos looked better than actual. The girl I took had baby damage but you couldn't tell by the photos. She gave a very good session.
EOB. Good. About 7 girls. The girl I took looked like a sexy chola chick. She was slim and very playful. I would rate her exceptional.
Rio Branco 156. I usually visit the prives here but as reported earlier, you need to sign in to get to the elevators. Seems strange to have turnstiles in front of the elevator bank. Since there were lines at both sides to sign in, I didn't go up.
Non full service.
Luna Therapia. Good. This place you have to call or whatapp them to schedule an appointment. They have a website with the photos and if the girl I had is any indication. The photos are up to date. I knew this place was not full service and I never had a nuru massage before so I went there. Not sure if it was real nuru gel but it did feel good. Her using her body all around me felt pretty good. She did allow kissing and DATY. She did offer a hand jack but I decided to save it for the night. Cost are $300.00 an hour. I had a good time there and I did feel relaxed after.
I know there were reports of not finding good places to eat, so here are some of the places I like to go to. I will not list the many by the kilo places I've been to or the executive lunch places that are dirt cheap.
Copacabana.
Apaia, really good seafood. I had the moqueca with fish and shrimp. Delicious and they do serve half portions.
Pavao Azul. Looks like a local hangout. I went just before opening and by the time I was leaving there was a line of people waiting for a table. I had the oxtail which came with rice, beans, potatoes and watercress. The oxtail is only served on certain days.
Centro.
Giuseppe. Great for pasta and steaks. Little pricy but worth it for me.
Malaga. Another hidden restaurant on the dark side. I wanted the roast pig but they didn't have it the day I went. I had the fish. Not sure what kind I just took the recommendation of the waiter.
Opus, the Brazilian version of the French dip sandwich. Cheap and filling.
Paladino. Another sandwich place. Sometimes I would buy a sandwich to go and leave it in the hotel fridge in the room. After a termas run, since most restaurants in centro are closed, Ill just have the sandwich for dinner. Again, cheap eats.
I do like eating the street food especially the meat skewers. Most of the places with the skewers charge are $7. 00.
Almost forgot, when my date from Solarium came over we ate at the Giuseppe in Leblon. Very modern and romantic place to eat. She loved it.
Porto Bay Hotel Copacabana. Pros. Location, clean, and according to the bell guy, guess friendly. Cons. Didn't see any.
Prodigy Hotel Santo Dumont. Pros. Location if you like exploring centro. Vlt can get you to the prives in about 2 minutes. About 5 minutes to the termas. Cons. There cleaning schedule. I usually go for a prive run so I leave around 10:00. After have lunch so I'm back at the hotel around 13:00. Find out the room hasn't been cleaned. I like to rest before I head out later to the termas but now I have to wait for the cleaning crew to come by. This hotel is not guess friendly. You can register one guess and that's pretty much it.
Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. I was on the 11th floor with a view of the bay which was so relaxing. My date also loved this hotel. Pretty isolated but I guess that means more privacy for you. I didn't ask if this hotel was guess friendly but when my date came over I met her in the lobby and headed straight to the elevators with no problem.
Vagabundo1
06-23-21, 20:53
Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.
Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.Interesting question. I have not, but I do recall that a Scandallo tute in Sampa asked me out of the blue if I wanted to go with her to a swing party. I was staying in Moema where she said there were some good swing clubs. I remember that she went by "Josie". Anyway, I declined as she wasn't my type.
Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.I'm pretty sure Rio Bob has done this many times. But I could be wrong.
I've found formal tours of Rio to be very overpriced. They take advantage of the fact tourists staying at the beach either do not know local prices or highly value being guided around. The hotels are steering people to these tours.
Since many mongers will be jutting around around Rio anyway, you can make an "off-book" arrangement with an Uber driver. Make a list of sites and show it to him / her. It doesn't take too much Portuguese to work this out. Find an Uber driver that you like and say something like "cuanto por seis horas?" (or whatever hours you prefer) and show them a feasible list of locations. They'll figure out the sequence based on location and traffic.
Logistically, I don't remember the layout of Cristo Redentor or Sugarloaf, but they should be able to wait in the parking lot. There is a trust factor though. You might have to pay some drivers as you go. I paid my guy 40 USA Dollars and he didn't seem too worried about being paid at the end. We also had each other's phone numbers in case I couldn't find him at the drop zone. I did take him to lunch, but I like hanging with locals. I usually find a cool Uber driver my first day or two. It's actually not unusual for an Uber driver in Brazil to hand you a card. Same guy drove me to GIG airport.
If you really want an English-speaking guide, you might be able to find a local guy with a car who is reasonable on Tripadvisor. Obviously, this is all cheaper if you are with a bud or two.I've taken free walking tours all over the world and swear by them. Sure you'll have to tip them at the end ($10 or 10 Euros seem to satisfy everyone), but this is why they tend to work harder to please you. Every bit as good or better than "formal" tours, unless you need a car. In which case your local guy or gal tip is solid. I've hired local drivers in Balnearios, SD, Bali, etc.
Pahllus Maximus
06-24-21, 01:20
Has anyone taken a girl from Rio to either these places? I like the idea of a "mini-relationship" beach tour, swimming, food and a girl who knows tastes, like wake up BJ and coffee in bed. If she does good, hard massage as well, life would be perfect! Naturally I will cruise Rios termas and clinicas like a fiend for the first few days. Barra seems to be a nicer Rio, and as one of esteemed colleagues mentions, there is the yellow house.
I must say: anyone punching the clock stateside for some old hag they wake up everyday and commute to work is a fool. Long live blue sky, good food, hot women, all holes open, DFK and a certain elan. We live only once. Imagine the indignity of some canned speech in a suburban Mc Funeral pretend chapel of how the fool followed the norms of sex prison USA and worked like a serf for employment at will with his passive partner, Uncle Sam, taking a huge chunk to piss away. That is madness.
Not long before I can go: 18 months since Thailand, man, the deprivation has been awful, the whole COVID greyness seeping through our souls whereas prior to 2020, luscious girls in Vienna, side stop in Thailand, and maybe soon I can go NYC to Rio, Rio across Atlantic to Europe (opening skiing and surfing arbitrage), then via Macau and back to USA. Or screw USA and invest in rich countries and live in cheap and enjoyable countries.
I'm pretty sure Rio Bob has done this many times. But I could be wrong.LOL yes been doing for years and recently.
Pavao Azul. Looks like a local hangout. I went just before opening and by the time I was leaving there was a line of people waiting for a table. I had the oxtail which came with rice, beans, potatoes and watercress. The oxtail is only served on certain days. Well if it's anything like Jamaican / Caribbean Oxtail, I can't wait to try it. Thanks for the tip.
Paladino. Another sandwich place. Sometimes I would buy a sandwich to go and leave it in the hotel fridge in the room. After a termas run, since most restaurants in centro are closed, Ill just have the sandwich for dinner. Again, cheap eats.
I do like eating the street food especially the meat skewers. Most of the places with the skewers charge are $7. 00. Whoa R$7.00 now! I remember when my favorite street food, "meat on a stick" (especially skewered chicken w/beacon and/or sometimes with shrimp) was only are R$1.00 ...kkkk
Nice report.
Them's the facts bro! Could not have said it better myself. But you know there's always somebody who just has to "date" a tute, when really it should be all about the Five F's. Then when it doesn't work out, they're saddened. What could they have reasonably expected? Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them. Then forget them!Do what Mr E said but go to a doctor instead. Tell the doctor about your pain and that you have no money. Same with a lawyer, a plumber, or go into a restaurant. Go in and tell them you want something to eat but you don't have any money. See how much love you get?? They're all no different than the hooker selling her wares.
The Cheap Charlies will have you think hookers are the big problem because they charge for their time. They're no different from lawyers, bankers, plumbers and waitresses. There's the door if you can't pay.
The Threads of Distinction just got less distinct. Maybe if it continues management can change the name to: Threads of Distinction When Bottom Fishing.
TravelGuy79
06-24-21, 03:42
Right before Covid hit hard I made my first trip to Thailand fell in love but with Covid I've given up going back for at least another year. And based on those trip reports I picked Rio de Janeiro as my next stop. I can't wait to go and I'm hoping some of you experts can give me a little advice. I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways? I understand having a girl overnight is not as common as it is in Thailand but I really enjoy that and going to give that a shot here. Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay? Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides? One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.
Porto Bay Hotel Copacabana. Pros. Location, clean, and according to the bell guy, guess friendly. Cons. Didn't see any.
Prodigy Hotel Santo Dumont. Pros. Location if you like exploring centro. Vlt can get you to the prives in about 2 minutes. About 5 minutes to the termas. Cons. There cleaning schedule. I usually go for a prive run so I leave around 10:00. After have lunch so I'm back at the hotel around 13:00. Find out the room hasn't been cleaned. I like to rest before I head out later to the termas but now I have to wait for the cleaning crew to come by. This hotel is not guess friendly. You can register one guess and that's pretty much it.
Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. I was on the 11th floor with a view of the bay which was so relaxing. My date also loved this hotel. Pretty isolated but I guess that means more privacy for you. I didn't ask if this hotel was guess friendly but when my date came over I met her in the lobby and headed straight to the elevators with no problem.Hey QuackUp,
Thank you very much for your recent posts; they're exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.
I found this site a couple of weeks ago and have been pouring over it. Planning my first international mongering trip with a couple of buddies (hopefully in September of this year). I've never travelled internationally, but have local mongering experience. My buddies are the opposite (traveled a lot but little mongering exp).
I first planned on Cartagena, then Costa Rica, and now I think I've settled on Rio De Janeiro. Rio De Janeiro doesn't seem to have any political unrest or a major COVID problem, but I'm still not 100% this will be a good first trip. Any opinions on this are greatly appreciated.
I'm thinking we fly into SDU, possibly stay at Porto Bay in Copacabana, then hit mainly the 4 x4 and 65 for night spots initially. I like to see Christ the Redeemer and beaches during the day. Eat at Apaia and get some good steaks.
Just wanted to extend my thanks to all the reports. I couldn't imagine planning an international trip without this site!
. . . Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. . .You weren't kidding when you said' you like to do your own thing, as Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, isn't exactly Centro per se.
I do remember this hotel (and think I checked it out once, out of curiosity) on my long walks / strolls back and forth, to and from Praca Maua, while staying with friends at a Santo Cristo condo complex at the bottom of favela Providencia.
It seems like a nice enough hotel, but not exactly a "centro" hotel, I would consider recommending to newbies necessarily, just because of its slightly "out-of-central" location. Although, as you've mentioned, taking the VLT does make it easier to get to.
This old sea docking area is part of the gentrification that has taken place over the last several years and is nice enough and fairly quiet area, if albeit somewhat sparse and numbered with lots of empty seaport warehouses. Utopia Aquario (aquarium), is a nice touch to the area and for tourists so I hear, as oddly enough, I still haven't been inside.
Kudos to you for sharing your stay in this area. Please add more, if there are some other honorable and notably places worthy of attention.
What kind of plan did you get? Mine is like 80 USD for a month and it seems to be very comprehensive, though fortunately I have not had to use it as well. I even got the COVID coverage which, as a young man, seemed wholly unnecessary.Got Allianz for $56 that ticked all the boxes included Covid, other than trip cancellation. When I had to cancel my Rio trip, they refunded immediately, no questions asked.
Has anyone taken a girl from Rio to either these places? I like the idea of a "mini-relationship" beach tour, swimming, food and a girl who knows tastes, like wake up BJ and coffee in bed.If I did have to choose BTW Cabo Frio and Buzios, I'd go to Buzios. More expensive but more fun, IMHO. As to a mere idea of taking your girl to Buzios, search for "Buzios," and you'll see this topic was recently discussed.
I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways?
Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. 1. For your first time, stay in Copa.
2. Below on this very page, another member mentions Portobay, which is located in Copa and guest-friendly. I had researched that hotel before and believe it is guest-friendly, too.
Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides?
One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.1. Uber is fine and cheap.
2. Most prives and arguably the best termas 4 x4 are in Centro, but getting between Copa and Centro is very easy by metro, bus, or Uber.
3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.
SinfullyKorean
06-24-21, 06:19
3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.God bless you. You're a lot more patient / tolerant than most. LOL. Including me.
Hi gents,
My second Brazil visit almost there, booked accommodation for all July but tickets not yet as still have things to sort out at home.
Was wondering how is situation in Rio with restrictions.
Last time almost everything worked more less normal, apart from nightclubs.
Luckily Rio is anal then SP regarding Covid drama.
Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay?On the Brazil cover page, click on "Rio de Janeiro. Hotels & Lodging". It's all discussed in great detail. Besides this Rio thread "Link to Reports of Distinction" is also a good place to check out.
Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.One of my recent posts of taking a tute to a swing club:
On Saturday early evening I tried to get a girl from barra vip to come over, 2 flaked out on me kept texting back they were going to be late so I canceled. I was getting hungry so I walked over to MAbs to get something to eat and I was texting another barra girl to come over but they all act like they don't need the money, business must be good for these girls and also some are young and beautiful.
So while I was sitting in Mabs planning my next move a woman comes over to me that I met in an Internet cafe many years ago to say Hello,. She said I'm sitting over there with a friend I think you'll like her. I went over and sat with them, not really my type but she seemed fun so I stayed a while. She asked me what my plans were for the night, I had none really but a girl I met last night told me of a new swing club in Barra called Achar. The girl said to me it's a good place and she loves it. I said yeah you want to go? She said yes but I said I didn't want to travel so far let's go to 2 A2 instead. So we went to my place and changed, she put on a dress and I put on pick pocket proof pants.
I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.
On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.
Vagabundo1
06-24-21, 14:17
Ah yes.
I was thinking of club mix bar.
One of my recent posts of taking a tute to a swing club:
TravelGuy79
06-24-21, 14:34
Got Allianz for $56 that ticked all the boxes included Covid, other than trip cancellation. When I had to cancel my Rio trip, they refunded immediately, no questions asked.
If I did have to choose BTW Cabo Frio and Buzios, I'd go to Buzios. More expensive but more fun, IMHO. As to a mere idea of taking your girl to Buzios, search for "Buzios," and you'll see this topic was recently discussed.
1. For your first time, stay in Copa.
2. Below on this very page, another member mentions Portobay, which is located in Copa and guest-friendly. I had researched that hotel before and believe it is guest-friendly, too.
1. Uber is fine and cheap.
2. Most prives and arguably the best termas 4 x4 are in Centro, but getting between Copa and Centro is very easy by metro, bus, or Uber.
3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.Thanks for answering some of my questions. I'm going to take your advice and stay in Copa and Uber around. I think I'm going to book an Airbnb it seems like there are some super nice condos for under $!00 usd. I do plan on spending lots of time reading this form over the next four months. It is a wealth on information. I'm trying to prepare myself as much as possible. In Pattaya I dove right into the deep end and I'm sure I will do the same In Brazil.
TiaVoyage25
06-24-21, 16:15
Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.
Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.
As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.
Here is to another day and hopefully better options.
Interesting question. I have not, but I do recall that a Scandallo tute in Sampa asked me out of the blue if I wanted to go with her to a swing party. I was staying in Moema where she said there were some good swing clubs. I remember that she went by "Josie". Anyway, I declined as she wasn't my type.Brazilian girls seem to like them. Many girls have asked me if I want to go, but I never went. There are at least two in Moema, probably many more.
http://www.innerclub.com.br/ and https://www.hotbar.com.br/.
I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.
Right before Covid hit hard I made my first trip to Thailand fell in love but with Covid I've given up going back for at least another year. And based on those trip reports I picked Rio de Janeiro as my next stop. I can't wait to go and I'm hoping some of you experts can give me a little advice. I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways? I understand having a girl overnight is not as common as it is in Thailand but I really enjoy that and going to give that a shot here. Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay? Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides? One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.
SinfullyKorean
06-25-21, 05:35
I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.
SinfullyKorean
06-25-21, 05:38
Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.
Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.
As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.
Here is to another day and hopefully better options.Thanks for the report. I miss Brazil already. I really want to spend more time in Rio next time. I think I could've really enjoyed 4 x4. Prives were amazing, too. I thought I was sexed out. But it only took 4 days to get my craving back.
Exec Talent
06-25-21, 05:42
I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.
To summarize:
Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.
The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.
After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.
Vagabundo1
06-25-21, 07:10
Location 4 x4.
It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.
The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.
Great report and great news to hear that 4 x 4 and 65 are getting back in form.
From my experience of many nights at 4 x 4, it is hot between 5 and 10 pm with the peak time in the middle. This synchronizes with the schedules of the local businessmen. It's easy to tell the wife or girlfriend that you are going out for drinks with co-workers. Boys will be boys and Brasileiros will be Brasileiros! LOL.
Vagabundo1
06-25-21, 14:20
I had Monique over for pernoite.
We did 2 pernoites for 300 each. Tuesday, 1 load. Wednesday, 5 loads. Thursday, 4 loads.
250 for food at beach each day.
Swimming in the Atlantic, priceless.
Thursday, she picked out a dupla partner, even agreed to pay half of the 200 for the other girl out of her money.
Thursday night, went and saw a morena with one of the best asses in Rio, for an hour at her local in Gloria. 250 at her place.
Member #4729
06-25-21, 15:52
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness.
Improvised bars and eating stalls adorn both sides of the street, although "street" is a generous term as often times it becomes a ditch and one must scramble across fetid pools of dark and bacterial liquid of unknown origin and walk instead on the broken and jagged sidewalk. The increasingly foul odor alerts me that any skin contact with said liquid should be avoided with extreme prejudice. It is now that I begin to see the casas and girls hanging out in front of various bars and establishments. They are surprisingly quiet and subdued, casting only a leery gaze in my direction, and not the catcalsl and vulgarities that one would expect. In the first part of the street the mood is somnambulate, a blue narcotic light reflects off the street "water", and it's only as one walks further down that the music becomes audible and we arrive at the center of the Vila.
Crowds of rambunctious working class Brazilian men are drinking beer from tiny glasses and playing pool as half-naked garotas cling to their sides and talk amongst themselves. Now I can hear the music blasting from every corner, and each bar plays it's own tune, speakers distorted running at full volume- the music combining in one cacophonous sea of noise that continues to jar my nerves. I loiter around a but and decide to duck down the first alley way and penetrate further.
Like the axial procession at the temple of Karnak, the passage way is covered, and moves upwards in elevation the further one travels. To the Egyptians, this symbolized a return to the moment of creation, and a reunion with the creator God Amun, who stood on a mound of earth as the primordial waters receded. What I notice most is the pungent odor of vomit, which is pervasive and unrelenting. I gag a bit and try to acclimate. Making my way down the passage, to either side there are small rooms filled with naked and half naked women of all varieties. Sometimes there is a bar, sometimes there is a pool table, sometimes there is nothing but emptiness and a sullen girl staring out with dark and sad eyes. Sometimes the noise and smell overwhelm me to the point of disorientation. Most of the women are average or below average- poor women from the favelas trying to earn a meager wage. Surprisingly here and there a young lithe urchin can be visible, fresh and nubile, like a beautiful pearl in the vulgar, vaginal meat of a rotting oyster carcass. To the extent I would even be tempted, the sensory overload and fear of blowing my cover by speaking terrible Portuguese overwhelm, and its decided rather quickly that this will be an observation only mission.
The passage ends, but turns right and then another alley way, with similar characteristics, leads the descent back dwon towards Sotero doe Reis. I slow my walk a bit, lingering to take it all in, holding glances with some of the creatures that crawl forth to meet my gaze. It is simultaneously awful and sublime- the filth, the cacophony, the squalid poverty, the rare beauty. I imagine the gyrating and fucking that is going on behind these doors, a kind of rhythm or beat that never stops. It is the rhythm of creation, the screams and cries of pleasure echo the sounds of infants being born-the sound of life coming into existence.
Emerging back on into the street I feel as if I am reborn. My pulse slows and I begin to relax. I explore a bit further down, there are two other alleyways but they are not as enticing as this first axis, and so I stroll leisurely back up the street, still undiscovered and unnoticed by the locals. If on some rare lark one were to session here, your Portuguese would need to be on point, as there is no margin for error. Personally I would not feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy myself. As I saunter slowly back to Mosaico to catch another uber I feel like I have seen enough to understand there is indeed a limit to my own fetish for the danger and excitement provided by sketchy surroundings. For me, Terma 502 is about as low as I want to go, although I'm not ruling out 116 entirely.
I head to Terma 31 to recon the dark side some more. My uber driver comes mere inches from running over a female pedestrian who gave no f**cks, and I am thrown violently forward as he brakes to avoid colliding with her. I exit the car in front of MV30, which I decline to investigate, and turn the corner to 31. Up the stairs and around the corner is a small room lit with smoke, green lasers, and stroboscopic light. There is a pool table, a stripper pole, one tired Garota, and two men- all of whom look at me curiously as if I am lost. I turn around and leave.
Minutes later I am safe in the warm bosom of Whiskeria 65 and after relaxing with a beer, chose "Sol" a young lady with pink hair and glasses that I had sessioned the week prior. I am rock hard as I pump her head and finally ejaculate all over her pretty smile and eyes. She looks like Mia Khalifa with small tits and a larger nose. All the stress that had built from my walk earlier is released in one fantastic orgasmic moment and I fall exhausted to the bed, embracing and kissing Sol for the remaining time.
The uber ride back to meet Miami at Mabs is near fatal as a young inexperienced driver keeps getting lost and looking at his phone. He missed the pickup a couple times- I will remember to cancel tardy drivers with more prejudice in the future- some of these guys are mere children and you are not safe with them.
Back at Mabs, we meet a beautiful loira "Barbara" who shows us her website- several pornographic videos of her with clients intrigue. She's asking too much, 500 for uncovered BJ, only cum on tits, and so no one takes her up. I run in to one of my former girlfriends who I though had traveled back to her home city but was either lying or still has yet to go. She's angry with me because I had told her I was going to Colombia and couldn't meet her one last time. She sends me some angry messages later, tries to get me jealous by asking for my friends number and if she could meet with him. Sure, whatever.
I will be leaving the country mid-next week for Colombia if all goes according to plan. I've enjoyed my stay here immensely, but the thirst for new hunting grounds is real. I'm sure I will post a wrap up report soon, but this will do for now.
Zebra Out.
IndecentPro
06-25-21, 16:11
This board is a great resource and while I may not be able to contribute any reports until later. I do want to contribute *something* so I don't get roasted for asking questions with no prior contribution.
So this has helped me save literally hundreds if not over a thousand dollars in the past few years.
Many of you may be familiar with BrazilCupid, DominicanCupid, ColombianCupid, FilipinoCupid, etc.
I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?
Well here is my method. Use a VPN and route your sign-up through Argentina. Steps and costs detailed below.
1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.
2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.
3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.
4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year and Platinum is 4000 ARS / year. Select the one you want and begin messaging!
Benefits:
1. Subscription renews at to the 3000 or 4000 ARS price each year. This is $30 USD for Gold and $40 USD for Platinum and by next year, the ARS prices will probably be around $15 and $20 with Argentina's currency devaluation.
2. Definitely can get freebies if you put in limited effort 1 or 2 weeks before your trip. I can't say that definitively for *every* cupid country but it has worked in every one I have tried.
3. The current price for these sites is $150 USD each year if you register from the US. And it would renew at $150. That is insane if you travel to different countries and want to maintain multiple Cupid accounts.
If you don't have or know what a VPN is, there are hundreds of Youtube videos that can help. You can get a one-month VPN subscription for $5 (much cheaper if you buy longer subscriptions), sign up for all the Cupid countries you might ever want to visit and then cancel the VPN (if you don't have use for it). I would still recommend using a VPN in general.
Even if you continue logging in from the US after the initial sign-up, it will renew your contract at the ARS price.
Cheers!
How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.
Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.
To summarize:
Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.
The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.
After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.Totally agree, except even a newbie can do well with an Airbnb, especially those on a more limited budget. The short-term rental market is developed exceptionally well in Rio, so I wouldn't hesitate. But that's a matter of preferences of course.
As to visiting favelas, I too can't understand the appeal. Seriously, these are the places were poor people live. If I were living in Rio or staying for a few months, even then I can't see myself getting bored to the point of "touring" a slum. Some folks claim they want to "immerse" in the experience, but going on a tour when you're protected by organizers or their contracts with local bandits doesn't immerse you in anything. I guess, those curious souls should actually stay at one of the safer favelas to scratch that itch.
Location 4 x4.
It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.
The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.Taking a ferry to Niteroi is quick and pleasant. Not even mentioning the Flying Saucer Niemeyer Museum and cheap Niteroi prives.
Seriously, these are the places were poor people live.In general yes, but also middle-class and even rich people with mansions. I'm not speaking about rich narcos, but doctors, lawyers etc. Usually living in mansions built when the favelas were newborn.
Any word on when nightlife will reopen in Brazil? What is now the trendiest nightclub to party and see local girls (not "prostitutes" I'd like to take my friend to a good nightclub of some kind.
I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?
Well here is my method. Great info. Thanks!
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness.
So now that you've experienced the VM's sensory perversions kkkk, put it in the been-there-done-that column and move on. Mosaico, on the other hand, is a cool place. I had a very nice session with a lovely morena there once, who later visited me in my Airbnb a few days later. Don't remember the price, which tells me it wasn't outrageous. It's somewhat of an institution, too. I read on GParena they hired a porn star to strip and fuck everyone who were present at the moment.
Mosaico had a really big party on wed evening, the place was loaded with people. Unfrtunately, there were so many people that the cabins were full all night and I didn't have time to grab my favorita!
Crazy thing that happened to me on the way to Mosaico. I took an UBER to VM, as soon as we made the right off the highway to enter VM, a police car with 2 officers were partially blocking the road. They stopped my uber, walked up and started shining lights into the car. One officer them motioned for me to get out of the car. (I had on a mask, so he couldn't see my entire face) . I guess he could read from my forehead wrinkle and eye brow raise that I was confused as to why he anted me to step out of the car. I hesitated about 3 seconds as I looked at him, his partnet and then my uber driver before I reached for the handle and stepped out.
I thought the uber would drive away but he stayed where he was. The cop who motioned for me to get out was pissed nd yelled at me "When I tell you to get out of the car, you get out!" Again, I think from my facial expression he could tell that I was confused as to why I had to get out of the car. He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber. Once I closed the door he gave me 2 thumbs up and a big smile like " Hey, we are good right?" and then I gave him a thumbs up back. I will admit I was nervous when I stepped out of the car into that dark street, I wasnt sure if they were going to rob me or beat me up. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese!
Emerging back on into the street I feel as if I am reborn. My pulse slows and I begin to relax. I explore a bit further down, there are two other alleyways but they are not as enticing as this first axis, and so I stroll leisurely back up the street, still undiscovered and unnoticed by the locals. If on some rare lark one were to session here, your Portuguese would need to be on point, as there is no margin for error. Personally I would not feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy myself. As I saunter slowly back to Mosaico to catch another uber I feel like I have seen enough to understand there is indeed a limit to my own fetish for the danger and excitement provided by sketchy surroundings. For me, Terma 502 is about as low as I want to go, although I'm not ruling out 116 entirely.Prose, prose! Pure prose! Great report! Lived that totally vicariously through you! Well-done! Bravo! Was as if I was there walking along that street myself! Wish you had gone into Mosaico to give me a full picture of that place as well. Looking forward to more from you!
Mosaico had a really big party on wed evening, the place was loaded with people. Unfrtunately, there were so many people that the cabins were full all night and I didn't have time to grab my favorita!If the cabins at Mosaico are full it only takes less than 1 minute to go to Hotel Canario.
Good acting with the cops!
... He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber ...Don't know if this has been discussed already, but what's with the Police and the reason behind all the reports of stoppages, lately? Is it just Uber rides or Taxis as well?
....I wasnt sure if they were going to rob me or beat me up. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese! Or just shoot you.
Did you get the impression they were trying to perhaps, supplement their poultry income, by fleecing motorists? (especially, now that all the drug dealers are dead...just kidding).
Vagabundo1
06-25-21, 23:22
We are in the heart of darkness.
We have gone native.
So now that you've experienced the VM's sensory perversions kkkk,
... supplement their poultry income ...That might be correct under some circumstances...kkkk, but I meant "paltry income".
Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 01:04
1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.
2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.
3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.
4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.
Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 01:09
He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber. Once I closed the door he gave me 2 thumbs up and a big smile like " Hey, we are good right?" and then I gave him a thumbs up back. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese!That was textbook. You have to know when to turn it on and off. Just because you can speak and understand does not mean you go blabbing off. If you happen to be in some real trouble then the only word you know in the local language is for embassy.
SinfullyKorean
06-26-21, 01:24
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.Thanks for the report! I wish I had a chance to visit VM with you. But don't feel like I missed too much. =). Hopefully, I get another chance next time. I'm glad you were able to bestow your load upon Mia Khalifa.
I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.Thank you. I went to 4 x4, but didn't session there so forgot their pricing structure. I'll try next time I'm there, for sure.
IndecentPro
06-26-21, 03:35
Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.Yeah no worries. I just checked and it's 750 ARS (Gold) and 1000 ARS (Platinum) for one month. And still the 3000/4000 price per year.
In my opinion it's probably the best value you could get. SA is like 10 x the price. Probably not 10 x the value but to each their own.
SA doesn't work BTW with this method. They have global pricing which is consistent.
All you need for the countries I have used this is to pipeline for 1 month and afterwards you can let the account expire. Probably the best investment / payoff ratio you could ever hope for.
Cheers.
TiaVoyage25
06-26-21, 04:16
Gentlemen,
I write this not to stir controversy, but rather as another data point to add to this forum in which we all share our experiences. When we travel for this hobby, we all have different goals, expectations, budgets, and non-negotiables. For me, the goal is to sleep with as many top tier (by my standards) beautiful women I can in about 4-6 weeks. My expectation is that the Brazilian girls will live up to their famed reputation, and also that with quality research, I can find the experiences I'm looking for. My pre-conceived notions of a solid budget were poorly framed as I quickly realized that one if one has certain tastes, you will have to pay. Without delving into the socioeconomic and racial realities of Brazil, if you are looking for top shelf brancas, you're going to have to pay more and go to different places. Yes, you can find quality brancas in places like VM and darkside termas, but that takes effort, which brings me to my final point. Some things are non-negotiable for me. I have spent a significant part of my young life in suffering, albeit for a good cause, and thus I do not desire to "work" while I am on vacation. Quality and convenience are non-negotiable for me once I have done my due diligence research of visiting all the places that must be visited (hence why I went to VM and the darkside termas previously). I do not want to spend my days and nights looking for what I want. I want to show up to a place with the types of girls I am looking for and enjoy myself in a safe, comfortable setting. At the end of my trip I will write a sort of all inclusive newbies guide to Rio, with a focus on the aforementioned subjects, so that those with similar tastes as mine can plan their trips appropriately. This is not to attack or otherwise insult the wise gentlemen of this forum looking for a bargain deal, but rather to more easily lay out the options for the lazy monger, like myself.
It recently came to me why there may be some differences among us hobbyists when it comes to how we monger. We are primal creatures and thus largely enjoy overcoming a challenge. We seek the adventure. Back home, I am constantly putting in the work to get with non-pros. Hell, even here I've been putting in the work with non-pros. But when it comes to mongering, I am not trying to work. I want to sit back, relax, and enjoy. For the older, perhaps married monger, this hobby may in fact be a mechanism to accomplish the aforementioned objective. This monger seeks the adventure and finding the diamond in the rough because he is appealing to his primal nature that may not be as active in his other life. He seeks the best deal and always wants to come out on top. I could be wrong on this, but it is a thought I had recently. Again, this is not an insult to anyone, but rather my musings of an explanation to describe some differences in perspective among the members of this board. There is no right or wrong way to monger in this regard and I mention it to add perspective the next time someone decides to chastise another board member for doing something like "overpaying" or refusing to go to a sketchy part of town. On the same hand, it also serves as perspective to defend the monger who puts in the work for us all and goes above and beyond to find all the best deals and locations. I am grateful for the latter monger specifically because it is he who paves the way! He is the Lieutenant Rowan, if you will.
The night starts with MiamiBoy informing me he is on his way to 4 x4. Upon his arrival, he tells me that the quality is not that great but he will wait it out for a little bit. I use the opportunity to bite the bullet and head on over to MC, just to check the quality before perhaps going to Solarium or Centaurus. Once I get to MC, I quickly change into my robe and head upstairs to the bar to grab a beer. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me as the quality was much better than anything I have seen thus far here in Brazil. I think my first trip to Solarium would be comparable, but alas it was weeks ago and my memory on the matter is not that reliable. There were perhaps 20 girls of which only 2-3 I would not have sessioned with. Keep in mind gentlemen, if you haven't been able to tell from my reports thus far I am very picky. In the paraphrased words of Bearsi, "I didn't fly 8 hours to bang average ass women that I can at home after a couple drinks and some game in a bar. " Like Bearsi, I came here to bang beautiful, top-shelf women.
I sit down in the bar area and relax for a bit, just admiring the sight in front of me. A few girls come up to talk that I would happily session with, but I send them away because I want to get a complete picture of my options. Of the 20 or so girls, most were the illustrious spinner type with perfectly shaped bodies and pretty faces. A few were of the fit, big booty persuasion. Most were brancas or slightly mixed. There was only one dark skinned girl from what I saw. After a while I decided on one of the fit girls with a big booty. I did my usual friendly check to make sure they were on board with what I want in the room and off we went.
At this point, gentlemen, I must confess I made a mistake. When the girl took my key I forgot to mention how much time and the type of room I wanted. A few minutes go by and I think to myself that I'm going to get screwed over by being charged for 1 hour in a suite when I only want 40 minutes in a basic room. Suddenly, a gentleman who I believe is the owner came out of nowhere and said something along the lines of, "hey man, the girl said you want an hour in a suite. Is that true?" I told him no, I want 40 minutes in a basic room. He said no problem and that he just wanted to confirm, then walked away. Kudos to the management on this one because even though I would have told the girl when she got back what I wanted, that could have been a potential hassle which was just avoided due to the diligence and integrity of the owner / manager.
Now, I think the session is going to be ruined since I basically just slashed this girl's perceived earnings a bit. But man was I wrong. We got to the room and she put on a show. It was a cross between GFE and PSE the whole time. The girl brought out all the tricks. DFK (not my thing but whatever), BBBJ, anal, and she wanted me to CIM but her ass was so perfect I wanted to finish there. Best ass I've had in Rio so far, hands down. After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ and being as sexy / flirtatious as possible. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft. Our time is up and we leave. I'm sure her intention was to get me going again and then want to buy more time, but nonetheless I am pleased with the performance she put on for the entire time. She didn't waste any time with any BS. For the entire time, she was dedicated to making sure I had a great experience.
Another thing that makes MC worth noting is its facilities. Before and / or after your session, you can head down to the floor that has large showers, a couple bathrooms, etc. In this room they also have toothbrushes, toothpaste, mouth wash, body wash, and even shaving cream and razors if you want to use them. It is really pretty decent overall and as someone who appreciates convenience, I am happy these facilities are present.
After I clean up a bit, I head back upstairs to tip my waiter. Why? Everywhere I go I like to build a good reputation with the establishment. This paid off once upon a time in Bogota, but that is a story for another time. I head down to the reception and prepare to face the bill. I am not anxious, but of course I expect some hassle of a gringo tax or whatever. Seeing the bill, I am floored. The numbers couldn't be right. I had the entrance fee, a few beers, a water, 40 minutes with a girl, and the standard room for about R550? Every time I've gone to 4 x4 I've basically paid the in the R400's range for the same thing. Sure, most of the time I've drank a little more but the marginal difference here was unbelievable. At this point I'm thinking there's no way MC is only slightly more expensive (I. E. 20 USD) than 4 x4. What did I miss the first time? Oh yea, I had a threesome in a suite for an hour last time I was here LOL. I examine the bill closely and it is indeed accurate, as each thing is itemized by the price. I pay, walk out the door, and give the doorman a small tip. I head back to my hotel to write this report.
What is the takeaway here?
Well, it is just another data point. I had a good experience at MC for only a fraction more than what I've been spending at 4 x4. This just goes to show that experiences vary. I am happy I went and it was money well spent.
I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.I recommend paying for one of the larger cabines (versus the most basic one) just to get a little bit more space. It's well worth the price for more comfort to do "the nasty" in.
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 07:41
Who is Lieutenant Rowan?
Gentlemen,
I write this not to stir controversy, but rather as another data point to add to this forum in which we all share our experiences. When we travel for this hobby, we all have different goals, expectations, budgets, and non-negotiables. For me, the goal is to sleep with as many top tier (by my standards) beautiful women I can in about 4-6 weeks. My expectation is that the Brazilian girls will live up to their famed reputation, and also that with quality research, I can find the experiences I'm looking for. My pre-conceived notions of a solid budget were poorly framed as I quickly realized that one if one has certain tastes, you will have to pay. Without delving into the socioeconomic and racial realities of Brazil, if you are looking for top shelf brancas, you're going to have to pay more and go to different places. Yes, you can find quality brancas in places like VM and darkside termas, but that takes effort, which brings me to my final point. Some things are non-negotiable for me. I have spent a significant part of my young life in suffering, albeit for a good cause, and thus I do not desire to "work" while I am on vacation. Quality and convenience are non-negotiable for me once I have done my due diligence research of visiting all the places that must be visited (hence why I went to VM and the darkside termas previously). I do not want to spend my days and nights looking for what I want. I want to show up to a place with the types of girls I am looking for and enjoy myself in a safe, comfortable setting. At the end of my trip I will write a sort of all inclusive newbies guide to Rio, with a focus on the aforementioned subjects, so that those with similar tastes as mine can plan their trips appropriately. This is not to attack or otherwise insult the wise gentlemen of this forum looking for a bargain deal, but rather to more easily lay out the options for the lazy monger, like myself.
EncannaDeNoche
06-26-21, 10:13
Cool images of brazilian girls.
Beleza Pura.
http://www.forosx.com/internacional/general-agencias-escorts-independientes-fuera-de-espana-etc/14945-brasil-beleza-beleza-pura-171.html
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 12:17
Ivan.
PM me for his deets.
As with all *****houses the first number you get is the manager / owner, the Humphrey Bogart.
Suddenly, a gentleman who I believe is the owner came out of nowhere and said something along the lines of, "hey man, the girl said you want an hour in a suite. Is that true?" I told him no, I want 40 minutes in a basic room. He said no problem and that he just wanted to confirm, then walked away. Kudos to the management on this one because even though I would have told the girl when she got back what I wanted, that could have been a potential hassle which was just avoided due to the diligence and integrity of the owner / manager.
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 13:15
1. Remember Hotel Canario, on rua ceara. You find that pearl, you get her there. It is 150 m or less away.
2. Well written. A F Scott Fitzgerald, to the aspiring Hemingways and Twains among us. Bravo.
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness...
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 13:18
1. Remember Hotel Canario, on rua ceara. You find that pearl, you get her there. It is 150 m or less away.
2. Well written. A F Scott Fitzgerald, to the aspiring Hemingways and Twains among us. Bravo.
3. Oh, and, we need more reports on Mosaico, remember after midnight, and best after 2 PM.
It's not that one has to be a cheap charlie (Munger), but as the saying goes, real insiders study personnel; amateurs study sex; professionals study logistics.
If you go to Mosaico, you will find that the 500 per hour top end girls from the Tier 1 Termas from Zona Sul (anywhere South of Av Presidente Vargas) turn into 200 per hour girls in Mosaico, but they might not fuck you if they don't like you. This is a key point, as all the clientele in Mosaico are locals, and this is where the top tier local girls go to fuck local guys.
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness....
Great report TiaVoyage.
Next week I will try my luck chasing gems and good fun in Rio.
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 14:19
So, the little tryst in Gloria to end the night on Thursday was ATM, BBFSCIP, which I have to say is good service, and every man should get it. I mean ass to mouth. A good hour of ass to mouth hardcore anal fucking will really check the box, as I think Exec Talent pointed out.
I may post some pics of her tight little morena clara bundinha, which I've been plugging on and off for the better part of 7 years. She's a working girl, a happy hooker, a sperm milking nurse de facto proctologist whose tongue has been up my ass, with her pretty little carioca face. We have been fucking from Motel Megara in Zona Norte to Motel VIPS, Motel Malaga, and everywhere in between.
As it was on Thursday, I was on like my 5th or 6th load of the day. I had drilled Monique for 4 loads starting in the morning with the pernoite, and then after the beach day. On the beach, the waitress used the baby oil to oil monique's ass, her best feature, which attracted alot of attention from the male passers by.
I have been chatting with the remnants of team ISG Fuck you, who are preparing to head to other cities and countries. My recommendation as to tier 1 termas to check out is this.
I am open. You should do Paris café and Pérola Negra. The best branca by Far in Rio is a real Portuguese girl at Paris. Come after 10. Paris Cafe cover is 30, and same for Perola Negra. Barra is the Miami of Rio and maybe Brazil.
It has been a pleasure to monger with the latest crew -- TIA, Zebra, Miami, my wingmen in 4 x4 on a successful intel gathering raid -- with Gato1 and Mexidan standing by as the Quick Reaction Force. Obviously, some of us speak the same language of Hemingwayesque allusion to military terminology. But at the end of the day, we are libertines, or that is to say, Frenchmen, oh, to be a Frenchman in Rio de Janeiro, it doesn't get much better than that.
I had Monique over for pernoite.
We did 2 pernoites for 300 each. Tuesday, 1 load. Wednesday, 5 loads. Thursday, 4 loads.
250 for food at beach each day.
Swimming in the Atlantic, priceless.
Thursday, she picked out a dupla partner, even agreed to pay half of the 200 for the other girl out of her money.
Thursday night, went and saw a morena with one of the best asses in Rio, for an hour at her local in Gloria. 250 at her place.
Don't know if this has been discussed already, but what's with the Police and the reason behind all the reports of stoppages, lately? Is it just Uber rides or Taxis as well?
Or just shoot you.
Did you get the impression they were trying to perhaps, supplement their poultry income, by fleecing motorists? (especially, now that all the drug dealers are dead...just kidding).This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.
....Like the axial procession at the temple of Karnak, the passage way is covered, and moves upwards in elevation the further one travels. To the Egyptians, this symbolized a return to the moment of creation, and a reunion with the creator God Amun, who stood on a mound of earth as the primordial waters receded. What I notice most is the pungent odor of vomit, which is pervasive and unrelenting. I gag a bit and try to acclimate. Making my way down the passage, to either side there are small rooms filled with naked and half naked women of all varieties. Sometimes there is a bar, sometimes there is a pool table, sometimes there is nothing but emptiness and a sullen girl staring out with dark and sad eyes. Sometimes the noise and smell overwhelm me to the point of disorientation. Most of the women are average or below average- poor women from the favelas trying to earn a meager wage. Surprisingly here and there a young lithe urchin can be visible, fresh and nubile, like a beautiful pearl in the vulgar, vaginal meat of a rotting oyster carcass. To the extent I would even be tempted, the sensory overload and fear of blowing my cover by speaking terrible Portuguese overwhelm, and its decided rather quickly that this will be an observation only mission.....If you did not plagiarize this then you must be in the literary field. This has emphasized in my mind why I should not visit this place.
Vagabundo1
06-26-21, 15:36
This is good knowledge. Thanks to Bravo, MrE, RioBob for the after action report and analysis.
This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.
Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 15:49
It was a cross between GFE and PSE the whole time. The girl brought out all the tricks. DFK (not my thing but whatever), BBBJ, anal, and she wanted me to CIM. After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft. Our time is up and we leave. I'm sure her intention was to get me going again and then want to buy more time,Sounds like standard Brazil service to me. Nothing like the leche papi leche service of the Dominican Republic. Those guys do not know what they are missing. I have never had a girl in a termas ask me to buy more time. That is just how they do.
This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.I guess for the most part, I've always taken public transportation, even at 2 or 3 am at night. The buses ran fairly well throughout the night, from centro, VM or be it the last BRT train from Jardim Ocenico. Never had a problem, never had to wait more than about 20 minutes and most would drop me off in somewhere Copa and I'd walk home.
Still, all the times I have taken a taxi during the day or late at night, I've yet to get the "get out of the car" treatment, when passing through police check points.
Thanks for the update, at least I know what to expect, even with Uber rides. BTW, if I saw you in a car with a bunch passengers (especially if they were girls), I'd stop you myself...kkkk
Pahllus Maximus
06-26-21, 19:56
Zebrastipes indeed brings quality, detailed reports that invokes the sounds, senses of the streets and tantalizingly paints the scene for those of us still trapped by work in sex prison USA.
Unrelated: exchange rate today is 4. 9 to USD, down from 5. 76 in March, roughly a 14% decrease in Pussy Of Pussy (POP) and my feeling is that the real is significantly undervalued and few utility stocks that can can ridden on currency and / or capex. Ride a few positions to pay for riding the girls! I've enclosed the chart. The Real is close to bottom or more likely reversing and the futures market seems to be pricing that in. Companies with BR labor but directly or indirectly earning in high labor cost countries seem a decent bet in their own right. And quite a few have decent ROI and balance sheets. All the more reason for a field trip!
A quick check shows residency can be had for $30 k investment or $1,220 monthly income for an over 50 retirement visa. BR has the hospitals and training and regulates drug prices and bans kickbacks like most first world countries. The system can be topped up privately. However you look at it, BR is far better value than the USA health that is run by rent seeking insiders (in a joint venture with stockholders), marketing etc. That said, it has a live birth rate of 1. 8 and like most places, faces a major ageing demographic shift over the next 30 years (end game of financialization since 1980, crap wages discourages breeding and asset inflation). As with most countries, it means the young, lacking political influence and also lacking labor pricing power (and lack of capital to play in at he asset casino) will screwed economically, and in our case, literally. It seems unfair they grey boards will have access to prime pussy and the poor young dudes will have depend on charity sex.
Enjoy life and the rate, and I'd suggest some positions to secure Real income as a hedge on rates / POP.
Mr Enternational
06-26-21, 20:05
Still, all the times I have taken a taxi during the day or late at night, I've yet to get the "get out of the car" treatment, when passing through police check points.
I have only had it once. Back in the day, me and some friends were coming back from probably Via Show in a taxi late at night and they had a road block on the expressway. Maybe I am not riding around far and as late at night as some guys are for this to be frequently happening to me.
Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.Chicks, hotels, tours, airlines, you name it. In South America it always makes sense to check the "local" VPN rates before booking. With airlines it may or may not be worth it, as they might just invalidate your ticket if you can't provide your local ID number. But hotels can be got cheaper sometimes (not all, not always, though). But I'd never, in a million years, presume that dating sites play this game too. This is groundbreaking. And if it works with Cupids, it might work with others, too, like Par Perfeito, etc.
Vagabundo1
06-27-21, 01:50
Saturday, I linked up with Mexidan at RB156.
We headed over to Praca XV, where we ate outside.
The street scene was fun with a live band.
We then went to Hotel Atlantico Tower or Hotel Sao Francisco, on the 18th floor roof swimming pool area. This is key for the midday place to chill between rounds, IMHO. The hotel is good to stay, to prospect non pros as many are young, hot girls, from all over Brazil and all over the continent. Rua visconde Inhuama 95.
We headed to 116, which was closed, 114 had nada, T31 was closed, U210 had nada. We walked back towards Metro Uruguayan so Mexican could catch his Covid test in Copa.
Vagabundo broke off, caught the 422 bus to VM, found a 20 year old hot negra, and busted a nut.
Vagabundo then caught an uber back to zona sul to link up with Mexican, who had decided on Monte Carlo, so Vagabundo headed back to Transamerica, where he will link up for a Paris Cafe run if the boys so desire. Other than that, he is mission complete, which is to say nut busted, and ready for the rack.
..... After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ and being as sexy / flirtatious as possible. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft....If it was not Brazil then I would think dedication to the craft but being Rio it was more like dedication to relieving her horniness. Once in Solarium after I finished the girl began to masturbate frantically right there and then on the bed.
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.This is my experience travelling from US to SP a month ago.
Both airline and SP immigration asked me for proof of covid negative PCR test result and Brazil health declaration. I didn't complete the health declaration prior to going to airport, so I had to get that done online at the airport before they allowed me to check-in. I recommend completing the health declaration and having a copy of it before your travel.
Vagabundo1
06-27-21, 17:29
Hemingway writing contest, Fx.
Indeed, zebra is a Hemingway imitator, as am I, and a common assignment for a English class in high school! I would submit that the eminent Senhor Zebrastripes is perhaps a Conrad, a high compliment, as Conrad is the writer of apocalypse now.
I see these themes in Senor Zebra.
Egyptian Theology.
His description of VM as like a Egyptian temple is the stuff of Old Testament heresy. The Christian, angry god (Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God) would surely smite him down with thunder, pandemics, endemics -- oh, wait, we are in one. This is why I keep 2 meters apart from Zebra. Those lightening bolts smiting heathen Egyptians are not to be tested lightly.
Heart of Darkness / Star Wars / Tijuana.
Conrad wrote of Colonel Kurtz, which role I am auditioning for in real time, up the river in Africa, surrounded by nubile, 18 or 20 year old negras with round asses, wet, pink, self lubricating holes, full lips willing to suck a man to the root, big natural tits with sensitive nipples yearning to be suckled like baby bottles, dark ebony eyes, all willing to chupa piroca (rymes with fuma maconha, in the felipe ret song, go and lip sync that for a good laugh or fuck or two) on Colonel Kurtz, US Army Special Forces in Apocalypse now, or in the German or Belgian Army Special Forces or Diplomatic Corps, one cannot quite recall which, without the text, which is back on the bookself in the rich world in a beach condo while our hero, Colonel Kurtz arbitrages a rich world beach condo in exchange for a poor world beach condo, and all the willing, undervalued native holes that come with it.
FX.
So, you see USD BRL going back over 5? Or further down, near term?
I see fx as vaxxx related.
Vaxxx in Brazil goes up in %, BRL goes back down, infilizmente. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted, boys.
Zebrastipes indeed brings quality, detailed reports that invokes the sounds, senses of the streets and tantalizingly paints the scene for those of us still trapped by work in sex prison USA.
Unrelated: exchange rate today is 4. 9 to USD, down from 5. 76 in March, roughly a 14% decrease in Pussy Of Pussy (POP) and my feeling is that the real is significantly undervalued and few utility stocks that can can ridden on currency and / or capex. Ride a few positions to pay for riding the girls! I've enclosed the chart. The Real is close to bottom or more likely reversing and the futures market seems to be pricing that in. Companies with BR labor but directly or indirectly earning in high labor cost countries seem a decent bet in their own right. And quite a few have decent ROI and balance sheets. All the more reason for a field trip!
Great report TiaVoyage.
Next week I will try my luck chasing gems and good fun in Rio.
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.You will be refused boarding if you are not Brazilian national or close family member etc. The quarantine of 14 days is applied to that group of people.
Vagabundo1
06-27-21, 19:47
Spread them.
PM me for deets.
This is why you might want to stay a few weeks / days in centro on a longer trip of months / weeks, this is the talent you want in your bed, even on viagems.
Vagabundo1
06-27-21, 20:01
http://www.ksportal.com.br/
This may be the best barra housing option for relative newbies.
It will run about 50 USD a night, as opposed to less than 20 USD at Transamerica for monthly renters.
But the location is great, as it is in steps of metro.
The amenities are better, the apartments bigger, multi bedroom, more like the big tourist apartments in copa. The vibe in barra is Miami, the vibe in copa is times square. Neither is wrong or right, but one should choose per one's preference.
It is also a short walk to Perola Negra, and a easy cab ride or even bus ride for the senor spartan Sperto to Paris Cafe.
When one gets serious, there is the condo novo leblon near infoplace which is one of the alpha addresses. Novo Leblon says it all about Barra, which is still a work in progress.
You will be refused boarding if you are not Brazilian national or close family member etc. The quarantine of 14 days is applied to that group of people.How they know where was I 10 days ago?
Speaking from boarding gate experience or just reading what is written?
If it was not Brazil then I would think dedication to the craft but being Rio it was more like dedication to relieving her horniness. Once in Solarium after I finished the girl began to masturbate frantically right there and then on the bed.My first Termas visit ever was to Solarium in 2000. After I finished banging the chick in the cabina, she got on all fours and starting fingering her butthole. Only in Brasil.
A few visits later, I started hanging with a pro chica that was letting me bone her for nothing (nice to be young!) One time I came in a rubber in her pussy. She berated me for not taking it our and coming in her mouth. Again, only in Brasil.
My first Termas visit ever was to Solarium in 2000. After I finished banging the chick in the cabina, she got on all fours and starting fingering her butthole. Only in Brasil.
A few visits later, I started hanging with a pro chica that was letting me bone her for nothing (nice to be young!) One time I came in a rubber in her pussy. She berated me for not taking it our and coming in her mouth. Again, only in Brasil.The very first time I went to Cancun (now Manhattan), after I finished in this girl's ass and was putting my robe on to leave, she rolled over onto her stomach and spread her butt cheeks wide asking me to cornhole her some more. We had plenty of time left in the session, but I wasn't into her that much and was ready to leave. She seemed disappointed LOL. All of us Brazil vets have stories like this. The Brasiliera is the best sexual being on the planet!
Fellas, I'm coming down in a few weeks. As usual I plan on checking out most of the top termas (4 x4, Solarium, etc) and some of the second tire (those in close proximity to 4 x4). Also Bel Prazer (which has been a gem my last couple trips) and a few other spots like it in the area. My question is have any of your laid eyes on or Sessioned with any PHAT bubble (natural) asses lately that you think are worth mentioning? If so please let me know where. Rio is huge and has tons of options. It can take forever to see even a fraction of the talent so just wondering if anyone has specifically seen anything I would like just so that I can cut down on time. Thanks for any info you may have!
TheDerilious
06-28-21, 03:25
Well, I touched down in Rio at midnight on Friday and got to my hotel in Copa (Pestana) around 2 am which was a breath of fresh air after 12 hours in transit. It's a nice enough hotel, but it definitely shows some signs of wear and tear. Things like bad caulking, worn down furniture but it will do for the price I got it at. The majority of my first day was spent getting a lay of the land, spending some time on the beach, and stocking up on the essentials like snacks and water. My plan is to try the different options that are available in Rio and I'll start with some of the closer termas before branching out into the terapias, darkside termas, and online game.
Day 1.
Being that I was a bit tired, I decided to switch up my schedule and hit Monte Carlo first around 6:30 pm rather than head down to Centaurus. Overall, it is definitely a smaller venue than I expected but I didn't have much time to consider that as I was immediately mobbed by a few girls looking to start my trip off right. I counted around 10 ladies in the bar with the majority being 7/10 and a couple of stunners. Luckily one of the stunning girls mobbed me in the beginning so I didn't have to shoo away the others too hard and I ended up picking a smaller branca who had a "smart fit" (which is more my style) look rather than the huge bunda type that seems to be more common here. I followed the advice of some good veterans here and made sure pick up my tongue off the ground and ask her a few questions before just taking her upstairs (What will you do for me? Get some DFK in the bar, etc.). Luckily she passed the tests and up we went. I picked the shorter time and we went to work. I love the way that others have described the typical Brazilian experience which is a mix of PSE and GFE. Immediately, we are at it like horny bunnies with the added benefit of her prompting to get in different positions. I don't think she spoke English but I can't really remember because we didn't spend much time talking. After I busted the first time, she made me finish her off before she took about a minute break and then jumped me again for nut two. With that, the time was up and I left a happy man. This was a great experience that left me wanting more which probably informed my decision the next day.
Day 2.
After a good night's rest and beach relaxation (people can shit on Copa's and Ipanema's beaches all they want but it is more than enough for the simple man who lives in the North), I decided to hit Centaurus around 7 ish and see if the hype was worth it. Well the amenities were fairly nice and the bar was a bit more spacious so that is a plus. There were about 15 girls and I would say that about 10 of them were doable and 6 were very attractive. I got the same mob treatment here so keep that in mind if you are hitting termas. In the end, I picked up a super cute morena with curly brown hair. She had really young look (I would have guessed around 19-20 but she was 27 haha. She told me most of the girls claim they are 18-20 for their older clients and this tracks with my experience around the world.). She didn't speak any English but we got by with my Spanish and a bit of google translate to help. I ended up picking a 1 hour session because I wanted to have a bit more time. I had a feeling that things were going to be good because I felt that we had good chemistry. I know this can be a foolish thing to consider, but luckily my intuition was right. This was like my day one experience but even better. I guess she was really horny or something because we barely had time to DFK before she suited me up and went to work. Suffice it to say, we went though many positions and I busted numerous times. She had me in cowgirl and didn't stop after I busted until she was done. Best part of all was she was a squirter and she let a huge amount when I was DATY. That was a first for me. In the end, I got her number and will probably hit up later in the week.
Early Thoughts.
So far, my experiences in the Tier 1 termas have been great. MC was around 500 for the time and Centaurus was a pricey 1 k (it would have been 720 if I chose the 40 minute time) for everything, including drinks. I didn't meet any girls that spoke good or even passable English yet. Thank goodness I know Spanish since it seems like most Brazilians can understand that well enough. But if you have good chemistry with a girl, then google translate will be fine and may even be a bit fun for a longer conversation. Small sample size but the service in Brazil has been otherworldly. It is always a good sign to see women use you to pleasure themselves so I have no complaints. Sunday is going to be a work day for me so I won't be active, but I'll return on Monday and try out some of the cheaper options in Centro. Overall, I feel like the tier 1 options have been worth their price because they are easy to get to, the quality of girls was good, and the service was great. This may change if the cheaper options prove to match that for a better price, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it.
SinfullyKorean
06-28-21, 05:10
How they know where was I 10 days ago?
Speaking from boarding gate experience or just reading what is written?You're asking if they're following the rules strictly. Everyone is telling you yes, they are. They will know if you've been to the UK by your passport. If it doesn't say on your passport that you were in the UK the last 14 days, you might be able to get away with it.
PCR test is strictly enforced. I believe mine was enforced by my airline. I filled out my health declaration form online and printed it (13 pages). Airline staff were mostly confused by it, but it helped facilitate a faster check in process.
Member #4729
06-28-21, 15:06
It has been a pleasure to monger with the latest crew -- TIA, Zebra, Miami, my wingmen in 4 x4 on a successful intel gathering raid -- with Gato1 and Mexidan standing by as the Quick Reaction Force. Obviously, some of us speak the same language of Hemingwayesque allusion to military terminology. But at the end of the day, we are libertines, or that is to say, Frenchmen, oh, to be a Frenchman in Rio de Janeiro, it doesn't get much better than that.This was indeed a great moment- and for that matter all of my expeditions with ISG wingmen have been positive experiences. Ages ago I read an MSM hatchet job on the ISG and other related hobby forums which was predictably judgmental with all the usual canards and crude judgements. The phrase that stuck with me was a description of the hobby as an essentially lonely and solitary pursuit- which, yes, it can be. Availing myself of this forum and the real-life wingmen herein, I see that it also can be a team sport with camaraderie, and all the usual jostling and preening that goes with male hierarchy- but also essentially a benign and yes, wholesome pursuit that practiced socially removes any lingering self-stigma and reproachments.
Member #4729
06-28-21, 15:48
Hemingway writing contest, Fx.
Indeed, zebra is a Hemingway imitator, as am I, and a common assignment for a English class in high school! I would submit that the eminent Senhor Zebrastripes is perhaps a Conrad, a high compliment, as Conrad is the writer of apocalypse now.
I see these themes in Senor Zebra.
Egyptian Theology.
His description of VM as like a Egyptian temple is the stuff of Old Testament heresy. The Christian, angry god (Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God) would surely smite him down with thunder, pandemics, endemics -- oh, wait, we are in one. This is why I keep 2 meters apart from Zebra. Those lightening bolts smiting heathen Egyptians are not to be tested lightly.
Heart of Darkness / Star Wars / Tijuana.
Conrad wrote of Colonel Kurtz, which role I am auditioning for in real time, up the river in Africa, surrounded by nubile, 18 or 20 year old negras with round asses, wet, pink, self lubricating holes, full lips willing to suck a man to the root, big natural tits with sensitive nipples yearning to be suckled like baby bottles, dark ebony eyes, all willing to chupa piroca (rymes with fuma maconha, in the felipe ret song, go and lip sync that for a good laugh or fuck or two) on Colonel Kurtz, US Army Special Forces in Apocalypse now, or in the German or Belgian Army Special Forces or Diplomatic Corps, one cannot quite recall which, without the text, which is back on the bookself in the rich world in a beach condo while our hero, Colonel Kurtz arbitrages a rich world beach condo in exchange for a poor world beach condo, and all the willing, undervalued native holes that come with it.I think this comparison to Kurtz is very interesting and valid, both in the Ford Coppola sense, and in the original Conradian sense. Vagabundo- you are indeed a fascinating character- your writing stood out enough for me to mention it to a friend as notable and colorful before even posting here or arriving on the ground. You write long form psychedelic sex-haiku, channeling the poetic sensibilities of Crowley and Bukowski, with the atmospherics of Jean Genet or perhaps Balzac. Your placement on the ground and the energy and consistency you bring to the subject means that your contributions to the forum are seminal and central. But, you are also difficult and cantankerous, often much too quick to find offense and sometimes needlessly dismissive. This is fine- most interesting people are difficult. People can accept the price or not. I chose to accept it. Posturing and preening are a natural part of male hierarchy, we all do it. Soft abuse (ball busting) is how we get to see who is hard enough to actually command respect. That's why I know you won't wind my frankness in this note, because I wouldn't even bother to criticize you (mildly) if I did not respect you.
That being said, back to this Kurtzian insight and some questions. Does the freedom from obligation and worldly convention inevitably lead to a descent into madness? Will such a man find his corpse one day lying next to the pile of MacAffees and Epsteins? Is unrestrained sexuality and an ability to partake at such high frequency and volume a kind of dark enlightenment, or, a prison of the flesh? Was Kurtz a transcendent genius or more of a tragic figure? Most people do not lead a life that would enable them to answer such questions. Senor Vagabundo finds himself in this very Duchovnian world, and so I wonder what insight he is able to bring upon his own station, his own sense of metaphysical integration? I do not judge, simply ask the question. It is not necessary if the question is even answered, to ask it is a kind of answer.
The Sumerian goddess of love and war Innana, known later as Ishtar, and to the Babylonians and Hebrews as Astarte comes to mind. As she was also the goddess of sex and prostitutes, it was necessary for the Ensi (king) to partake in ritualized sex with the Priestess of Innana in the cella (a small room atop the ziggurat) in order to ensure her blessings.
The significance: that the profession of prostitution from it's earliest appearance in civilization was a sanctified and integral part of the social order. You might say all hobbyists are devotees to the Cult of Innana- and that certainly her presence in the everyday fabric of life in countries like Brazil, Thailand, etc is much greater than America, where she has been marginalized to pop music and strange, pervy corners of the internet. There she lives more in the basement than in the bedroom.
The mongers I've met through ISG have all been straight up normal dudes with good jobs and prospects or otherwise honorably retired. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some fiends and ant****ial deviants that post here- but for the most part, as I've mentioned before I see the hobby as a normal wholesome pursuit.
Which brings us back again to Vagabundo and Kurtz and the question of how far into the jungle we really are? Some would say we are nowhere near any sort of jungle, that this is all a vivid farce. Again, questions are more interesting than answers.
As I make my way to Colombia and then back to the USA I will inevitably post here less, and perhaps eventually not at all or very little- but I do appreciate this particular forum and the characters that contribute to it. It certainly seems a cut above most. And many thanks to the people that have enjoyed my writing- I think to the extent it resonates, its because the subject matter is well chosen.
Zebra.
Vagabundo1
06-28-21, 16:10
Rio Biz Cards 1 of #.
You roll into Rio, a aspiring producer of porn or just a dude who wants to reenact what you see on evilangel.com.
These are the essential cards to throw through zap or insta, once you get your talent's number at solarium, which card is attached.
These motels range from the best (VIPS, which is out of business, we hope temporarily; and panda; and bambina) to the most useful (barao, malaga) because they are central, to bem zona norte (cartago).
For 4 x 4, choose sheik.
Now you are James bond because you can read the tattoo on the hooker's wrist and say, "Macau sex trade" and speak her language. Just pass her your phone, show her the biz card, and she knows what you want. Agree on a price. Make it happen. Shaken not stirred.
Vagabundo1
06-28-21, 20:13
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2014/08/07/a-personal-choice
Senhor Zebra,
You are a scholar and a gentleman; our friends are our best psychoanalysts, literary critics, etc.
Our conversation spans Huntington's 8 world civilizations, indeed, sex is a subject that brings us closer to. Whatever our higher power is.
economist.com could fairly be said to span all countries, as the fx is how all countries, civilizations communicate.
To wit, I would submit the linked article above is valid world wide (and that bubba boy's guide is still valid, and that perhaps for the moment, Rio is the now and forever capital of P4P).
Vagabundo, as a Kurtz, self aware; and as since eating unleavened bread in the basement of temple as a 5 year old, Vagabundo obeys all laws of which he is aware; but as Seinfeld says, it is not a lie if you believe it to be true, a nice summation of the plausible deniability that it takes to be a true carioca, at times. Sitting in Casablanca, like a bogart, waiting for that brunette from Paris to come in with some other dude.
Indeed, Vagabundo's life is perhaps like Heart of Darkness, but beneath the surface, it is also like Tropic Thunder, as Vagabundo recalls the command to never go full retard.
https://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q
Indeed, in English, it was taught that hell is the full complete expression of one's individual desire to be godlike, Tutankhamen like, memorialized in gold and stone pyramids, to which you allude if you will. But by contrast some golden mean is in giving of oneself to a higher good, to help another soul. And in our own small way as clients of sex workers, we can be kind, generous, and we do help these workers financially through a time when many are starving; indeed, some mongers, who shall go nameless go out of their way to help their sex workers financially, and in other ways, to give food to the hungry, etc.
https://youtu.be/IOkwd3_6z0Y
Finally, citing joseph cambell, the power of myth, "all the gods and all the heavens and all the hells are within you" in a scene which cites the "never go full retard" scene.
Within our specific literature of prostitution in Rio, in the novel, "Fim"by Torres we see 5 life times of hooker mongers; we are free to choose which one we will live our lives as. I, for one, live my life as the one by the beach, who works out daily, who fucks as many of Rio's finest as I can. This novel, Fim, parallels the two lives of quincas water-bray, which was commended to us by this thread too, among the great literature of Brazil.
Thank you sir, for your correspondence. Safe travels.
Vagabundo.
I think this comparison to Kurtz is very interesting and valid, both in the Ford Coppola sense, and in the original Conradian sense.
Pahllus Maximus
06-28-21, 22:13
Some excellent insights here. I lack the sophisticated erudition of some here, but know enough history to make what I hope is useful.
Taking the analogy further, compare Colonel Kilgore to Colonel Kurtz and ask who is more insane. The comparative madness is a very old narrative, such as Kesey "one Flew Over the Cuckooos Nest". The same questioning of "reality" and self is an age old question.
In this matter, the conventionality lies between the implied obligations of reproduction of economic units in a nuclear family modern world says is the primary or sole repository of emotional or social validation connection. Other societies place platonic emotional connection far higher, and distinguish sex from emotional needs. Many male only groups have and will continue to supply this need, and not a few wives get jealous their meal ticket is not 100% co-dependent. Women have the equivalent, and are probably better at it than us. Many people love their pets which is considered acceptable. The romantic single point of emotional support failure is neither a necessary of sufficient part of a happy life. Poverty and illness can and does regularly shatter such state sponsored arrangements. Relationships are fragile. In engineering, system redundancy is prized as the answer to mean time between failure (MTBF). We have two kidneys for a similar reason.
The analogy with Epstein or McAfee, or the many suicides in Thailand is misleading. The question is whether unlimited P4 P is inherently self-destructive; and whether we, as mongers, are lost in the jungle. If a fellow lives only for fucking and alcohol and is otherwise idle, meaning not developing his mind / skills or meaningful social connection, then yes, they are at high risk of being a Kurtz. Solitary confinement specifically targets the need to bond and interaction. Jail removes sex, also seen as punishment. We also have a bunch of brain chemicals and patterns of reward that we can re-train and not be slaves to.
In reality, the numerous song / poem / story genre "I cannot live without you" is really about a weak sense of self, lack of identity, lack of self actualization and lack of having a platonic group of others, if you like, back up. The error is conflating sex with the internal basket of a strong self and a bunch of good, trusted friends. P4 P is not the problem per se. It starts with self. Far from being lost in the jungle, it might be that the clearly intelligent and productive dezinens of sub-group have evolved. It is conventional society that is the demonstrable jungle. Kurtz realized the truth. As the script said, "he broke from society and then broke from himself". His weakness was emotional loneliness.
The best way of not getting lost is a not flying beyond core skill level, flight plan, destination, situational awareness, navigation, adequate fuel and alternative landing spots if en route weather changes. Check and re-check assumptions. It's called cognitive flexibility and resilience. The military tests this for for officers and hones these traits. If you need drugs or alcohol to get by on a basis, something is wrong. If you need a person as a prop and will fall over without them, you also lack airworthiness. If you have too much time on your hands without evolving or lack the laughter and company of like minded folks, also a problem. Alcohol, over eating, sex, distractions etc are all escapes from a deeper madness. Turn the whole thing around and look to causes. P4P is not mad any more than a fine meal. All in balance. Adjust the trim. Allow for drift and correct course. The seven deadly sins remains a good plan of keeping default human sloth in check.
If your life is in order, you have enough to live on without working, and you have a few really good, trusted friends (as in trusted with money and secrets and accepting you as who you really are) you are already a winner. P4 P is icing on the cake, nothing to worry about *IF* the aircraft is in good repair and flown within its limits and pilot skill. It is residual guilt of having run away from the plantation and living a life very few men get to enjoy. The people here for the most part are people I'd be very happy to have for company; intelligent, highly aware, articulate, educated and from what I can see have a healthy deprecation of hubris.
If your life is in order, you have enough to live on without working, and you have a few really good, trusted friends (as in trusted with money and secrets and accepting you as who you really are) you are already a winner. P4 P is icing on the cake, nothing to worry about *IF* the aircraft is in good repair and flown within its limits and pilot skill. It is residual guilt of having run away from the plantation and living a life very few men get to enjoy. The people here for the most part are people I'd be very happy to have for company; intelligent, highly aware, articulate, educated and from what I can see have a healthy deprecation of hubris.That says it all!
Day 2.
After a good night's rest and beach relaxation (people can shit on Copa's and Ipanema's beaches all they want but it is more than enough for the simple man who lives in the North), I decided to hit Centaurus around 7 ish and see if the hype was worth it. Well the amenities were fairly nice and the bar was a bit more spacious so that is a plus. There were about 15 girls and I would say that about 10 of them were doable and 6 were very attractive. I got the same mob treatment here so keep that in mind if you are hitting termas. In the end, I picked up a super cute morena with curly brown hair. She had really young look (I would have guessed around 19-20 but she was 27 haha. She told me most of the girls claim they are 18-20 for their older clients and this tracks with my experience around the world.). She didn't speak any English but we got by with my Spanish and a bit of google translate to help. I ended up picking a 1 hour session because I wanted to have a bit more time. I had a feeling that things were going to be good because I felt that we had good chemistry. I know this can be a foolish thing to consider, but luckily my intuition was right. This was like my day one experience but even better. I guess she was really horny or something because we barely had time to DFK before she suited me up and went to work. Suffice it to say, we went though many positions and I busted numerous times. She had me in cowgirl and didn't stop after I busted until she was done. Best part of all was she was a squirter and she let a huge amount when I was DATY. That was a first for me. In the end, I got her number and will probably hit up later in the loop.Nice report!!
I have yet to find a squirter and was wondering if you could maybe share that contact for my next trip to Rio. I don't think you can PM yet so maybe if you get enough posts, you could drop me a PM.
Thanks.
You're asking if they're following the rules strictly. Everyone is telling you yes, they are. They will know if you've been to the UK by your passport. If it doesn't say on your passport that you were in the UK the last 14 days, you might be able to get away with it.
PCR test is strictly enforced. I believe mine was enforced by my airline. I filled out my health declaration form online and printed it (13 pages). Airline staff were mostly confused by it, but it helped facilitate a faster check in process.Cheers.
Flights booked anyway, couldn't wait anymore.
Lets see what happens.
Those who dares wins!
Vagabundo1
06-29-21, 12:16
2 of 2. The fuller collection.
Rio Biz Cards 1 of #.
You roll into Rio, a aspiring producer of porn or just a dude who wants to reenact what you see on evilangel.com.
These are the essential cards to throw through zap or insta, once you get your talent's number at solarium, which card is attached.
These motels range from the best (VIPS, which is out of business, we hope temporarily; and panda; and bambina) to the most useful (barao, malaga) because they are central, to bem zona norte (cartago).
For 4 x 4, choose sheik.
Now you are James bond because you can read the tattoo on the hooker's wrist and say, "Macau sex trade" and speak her language. Just pass her your phone, show her the biz card, and she knows what you want. Agree on a price. Make it happen. Shaken not stirred.
Exec Talent
06-29-21, 15:36
Nice report!!
I have yet to find a squirter and was wondering if you could maybe share that contact for my next trip to Rio. I don't think you can PM yet so maybe if you get enough posts, you could drop me a PM.
Thanks.Once dated a woman who drenched the bed. No, it is not urine. The first time it was WTF! After that it was, how about we do it on the floor?
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that!
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that!Thanks for the update. Unfortunately, guest friendly hotels in Rio and elsewhere can many times be a moving target. If the manager isn't changing the rules during your stay, the night manager is trying to change them.
I have had the annoying "I paid for a double room for two guests." conversation a few times. Sometimes they relented and sometimes I've been forced to find another hotel. I guess that's why I've migrated to short-term rental units.
It's a pain in the ass, because sometimes you want the service and amenities of a hotel.
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specificThat MF manager was as specific as he wanted to be to get you book at his hotel. You aren't the first monger staying in his establishment, and he knows exactly what the score is. Not even mentioning that if you had ONE girl, you could just check in with her and that's it, no need for all that bullshit.
Before you go to IBIS, check Portobay. Great location, and I've heard good things about its girlfriendliness. You might, however, want to try to reconfirm that with the hotel.
EverythingBlue
06-29-21, 18:35
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registeredThat is definitely an issue for a long stay like yours. Does IBIS allow guests no extra charge?
I ask because I'm spending 3 nights in Rio in late August, and booked at the Hilton Copacabana hoping I won't have issues if I call in some girls to come over for some sessions, or even if I bring someone with me after hitting the termas. I hope I won't have to pay extras there too.
SinfullyKorean
06-29-21, 19:10
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.I agree, that's complete BS. Maybe it depends on the manager. But when I brought a lady into my room (Astoria), the hotel receptionist didn't bat an eye. She left after an HR, but the receptionist didn't know that when I was bringing her up.
I agree, this wasn't your fault. They were misleading so you'd book their room. They know it's super awkward to type that shit out: "I plan on sleeping with different women each night. Is that ok?" LOL.
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that!I never had that happen to me at the Astoria Palace, and I brought back my share of girls to the room. Believe me. This is one thing I hate about less than "first tier" countries. One time it's this, then another time it's that. If they can get away with it. Booking the room for 2 should have been all it took! That's the standard, commonly accepted practice.
Once dated a woman who drenched the bed. No, it is not urine. The first time it was WTF! After that it was, how about we do it on the floor?I've encountered that issue many times. :D I'll get a diaper changing pad if I'm going to keep seeing that particular lady. Those pads are absorbent, inexpensive, and they cum in various sizes. lol
With some of the recently written posts / conversions and poetic pros, comparisons to Hemingway (and the like), with regards to VM, it's interesting to note the strong emotional connection that a place, like VM triggers within someone to write such passionate pros.
When you consider, Hemingway love to write while in Cuba and Hemingway wrote some of his best work while in Cuba, a place, considered "squalled" and far "inferior" to American on so many levels. . . it begs the question, where is the same level of bluster, "poetic tales" and passion of enchantment for the high-end establishments? Perhaps there are some? I don't remember any of recent memory.
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?
Mr Enternational
06-29-21, 21:02
And this is why I don't believe half the BS that is put out. Funny as shit video about American propoganda.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF-9GtHsek
Mr Enternational
06-29-21, 21:04
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.
Not urine? That's not what WebMD says. To each his own!
https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-squirting-orgasm
Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.I think my questions are quite clear, for those that have read the Hemingway references that were posted in recent conversations surrounding VM.
Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.So you're saying that the "Hemingway writers" of this Rio thread and their writing style with regards to VM, aint got "shit" to do with Hemingway and him doing some of his best work while in Cuba.
Fair enough! Good to know, if that's your take.
Vagabundo1
06-29-21, 22:56
https://youtu.be/Hj-1QxFS3eQ
All the great writers are liars".
Senhor Vagabundo is more or less with Spidy on this one. But Senhor Mister Enternational is right as he has the most posts, in as much, as we are interested in current intel.
Hence, as Senhor Vagabundo has suggested, we need a thread for the Literature of Prostitution.
So you're saying that the "Hemingway writers" of this Rio thread and their writing style with regards to VM, aint got "shit" to do with Hemingway and him doing some of his best work while in Cuba.
Fair enough! Good to know, if that's your take.
I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used booking.com, it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.
Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh!
Vagabundo1
06-30-21, 04:16
Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma 95.
Transamerica / Associatioin Mediteraneo.
Av Gastao Senges 395.
Don't take that shit. Pick either of those hotels.
I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used booking.com, it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.
Vagabundo1
06-30-21, 04:27
Yeah, but Brazil still doesn't have nuclear submarines. Haha.
And this is why I don't believe half the BS that is put out. Funny as shit video about American propoganda.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF-9GtHsek
Vagabundo1
06-30-21, 06:06
This ironically will become true of a girl, haha.
Vagabundo is doing a 300 pernoite with a new girl, let's call her Nia Nacci.
Meanwhile, he is plotting to fuck a new 18 year old porn starlet, oh, my the plot thickens.
Stay tuned, I will invite you to the wedding, and you can all fuck her too. Hahaha.
\You're always dancing down the street.
With your suede blue eyes.
And every new boy that you meet.
He doesn't know the real surprise.
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
Ooh, she'll make you flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
I kinda like the way she dips.
She's my best friend's girl.
She's my best friend's girl.
But she used to be mine.
You've got your nuclear boots.
And your drip dry glove.
Ooh when you bite your lip.
It's some reaction to love, o-ove, o-ove.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
Yeah, I think you'll flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
I kinda like the way, I like the way she dips.
'Cause she's my best friend's girl.
Well she's my best friend's girl.
And she used to be mine.
She's so fine.
You're always dancing down the street.
With your suede blue eye-eyes.
And every new boy that you meet.
Doesn't know the real surprise.
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
Oh, she'll make you flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
I kinda like the way, I like the way she dips.
'Cause she's my best friend's girl, uh.
She's my best friend's girl-irl uh-irl.
She used to be mine.
She so, fine.
Oh.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
She used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend) yeah yeah.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
Said she used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend) oh, yeah yeah yeah.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
She used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
(My best friend's girlfriend).
That is definitely an issue for a long stay like yours. Does IBIS allow guests no extra charge?
I ask because I'm spending 3 nights in Rio in late August, and booked at the Hilton Copacabana hoping I won't have issues if I call in some girls to come over for some sessions, or even if I bring someone with me after hitting the termas. I hope I won't have to pay extras there too.Hilton is not guest-friendly.
Exec Talent
06-30-21, 12:02
I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.
Member #4729
06-30-21, 14:45
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.
Member #4729
06-30-21, 14:46
Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh!Point taken. Yes, let's get back to that.
Member #4729
06-30-21, 14:50
Was at 65 with "Nicolle" who requested that I photograph and video portions of the encounter. I will spare the readers shot of my anatomy. I enjoy her silicon body and positive attitude with regards to garganta profunda and liete na boca, but mongers will find her face makeup a bit weird as she is gobbling you as she has tried to make her nose look thinner by applying an extreme highlight along the edge which in better light looks ridiculous and is hard to take seriously. Nevertheless, great performer, get her while she's good.
Member #4729
06-30-21, 15:35
Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Airbnb / Hotel.
I stayed at 3 airbnb's over the 6 weeks and had no trouble at all bringing in ladies. No questions asked by the door ever. Ever. I need to do laundry, like to have a kitchen, and don't need someone to make my bed every morning, so I'm not sure what the draw of a hotel would even be considering all the hassles it seems to be causing. My first two weeks were in Copa, then I got wise and moved to Ipanema, where I stayed for a month, 3 weeks of which at a discount rate by paying cash directly to the renter.
Mongering.
I visited Terma's 65, 4 x 4, 502, and Monte Carlo and sessioned multiple times. I visited Solarium, Club 116/114, T 31, Manhattan, Marrakech, Kalabria, but did not session or pull girls from these establishments. My favorite terma was T 65, where I sessioned very frequently. For two beers, entry fee, and 30 minute of sex, 305 reals is not a bad deal. I appreciate the more laid back atmosphere in the T 65 lounge, and although there is quality at 4 x4 there's too much bunda grande for me. Also it's too dark in that club to gauge looks completely. Also its going to be a different mix every night at 65 because the girls are all freelancers so it's a new scene every time you go.
I pulled girls from Mab' and the walk between Mab's and DV. I visited DV (Dolce Vita) a couple times but it was dead both times. Mab's will have some great talent on occasion. I used Brazilian Cupid once, but did not use any online sites. I did not go to prives or clinics.
GFE.
I got wrapped up early on with one particular Terma girl and tried to replicate a GFE with her over the course of a few weeks. This is a mistake, do not do this with a Terma girl. It might be ok with an SA girl, and even then be weary. I wasted a lot of time, money, and emotional energy on this effort- probably because she seemed to be everything I needed and I didn't want to hassle looking for more. In the end she was an annoying drain and I found much better sex at a much lower cost (emotionally and financially) elsewhere. Also if you try to have a GFE experience, it's difficult if the girl is banging multiple dudes before seeing you on any given day. I had another mini-relationship after this that went better but ultimately suffered the same fate. Some will argue-Senhor Vagabundo comes to mind- that the ideal is a mini-relationship with a GDP. I'm now not so sure of this- it might be better to limit them to one, perhaps two encounters per week. A whole thread could be devoted to this topic.
CIM, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, swallowing, DFK, Anal.
I was able to get raw sex, and BBFS twice in six weeks- perhaps a 5% compliance rate. Compared to the Philippines that number would be close to 85-90%. This made me very sad, and when the Philippines opens it will be hard to justify coming back to Rio where such service is not common. The good new is that BBBJ, and CIM when requested were almost always given. If CIM was not granted, COF was offered as an alternative- which I can live with. Three GDP's swallowed without any prompt on my part, which was amazing. DFK was offered at close to 85%, which is much different than SEA, where you would get perhaps 45%. I never asked for anal and was never offered, but other mongers report this scene as being positive for it.
Always ask for what you want before you go to the cabine or you will end up disappointed. Don't be shy, they don't care. If she doesn't do what you need, move on and then next one will.
ISG Wingmen.
Another difference was that ISG enabled me to meet some wingmen which made the mongering experience extremely pleasant. I recommend to everyone to reach out to other posters on the ground. Meet at Mab's and just hang out to view the talent-it's not a big deal. You don't need to be buddy buddy with everyone, but it's been great experiencing the hobby as a team sport, which I never did previously. Mongers in SEA seem to keep to themselves. Thanks to my ISG buddies, you guys know who you are. Also thanks to the posters here who provide such a great resource.
I'm headed to Colombia for the next four or five weeks- not sure I will be posting on those forums though. Brazil was overall great- but as mentioned previously, it will be difficult to pass up SEA when those countries finally open up, so I'm not sure when I will return. When I do I will have a much better lay of the land, and do things much differently.
Zebra.
Hilton is not guest-friendly.If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?
Member #4729
06-30-21, 17:44
Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.
Philippines:
Angeles City in the Philippines fails miserably in this category as the only thing to do other than monger is go to the crappy nearby mall. Subic is slightly better, but in general the Philippines is very weak for downtime.
Thailand:
Similarly Pattaya is nothing special- compared to Ipanema and Copacabana, Pattaya beach is just awful, and the mess of streets inland is chaotic, dangerous, and difficult for pedestrians. There are a coupe of nearby temples but that will occupy two days at most. Bangkok is a bit better, but spending too much time in Bangkok can drain your wallet fast.
Cambodia:
Phnom Penh has some interesting landmarks, but once you check them off, you are left again with a dirty, chaotic city that is not pedestrian friendly.
Brazil:
Copacabana and Ipanema / Leblon are eminently walkable areas, and some of the best time I had was walking up the Ipanema stretch on Sundays when they close the whole street to cars and it's just pedestrian traffic and taking in the sights. There are number of destinations and tours that could keep one busy as well for a few weeks. Its just an undeniably beautiful environment.
One more data point for mongers to consider.
Not urine? That's not what WebMD says. To each his own!https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-squirting-orgasmFunny, it doesn't smell nor look like urine. The jury is still out on it: "Female ejaculate is a thicker, whitish fluid that resembles very diluted milk. " https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/female-ejaculation.
Also didn't look whitish to me.
And this: "Scientific analysis of expelled fluids conducted by American sexologist Beverly Whipple in the early 1980's (and then subsequent studies by others) discovered that urea and creatine chemical constituents of pee were only present in very low levels. They also detected additional substances which you wouldn't usually expect to be present in a puddle of piddle. One of these was prostate-specific antigen, or PSA. " https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441.
Who knows? Only matters that the ladies who are capable REALLY enjoy it.
Mr Enternational
06-30-21, 18:16
Funny, it doesn't smell nor look like urine.It is cloudy and tastes like burnt rubber. Not thicker than urine at all in my opinion. Maybe it could seem that way since it is not clear. No idea what urine tastes like (unless it tastes like the same burnt rubber!)
EverythingBlue
06-30-21, 18:42
I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.I read that book many many years ago, until this day I still try to apply some of its teachings. Some people are naturally that way, I wasn't so it was a life changing book for me.
As far as the hotel, I booked the Hilton because I saw some people commenting they never had an issue there, it might have been actually you! I try to dress well and be discreet around hotels anyways, so I think I'll take my chances and report back once I'm there in August.
Senhor Vagabundo is more or less with Spidy on this one. But Senhor Mister Enternational is right as he has the most posts, in as much, as we are interested in current intel.For those of you like, VB1 and Mr. E, with boots on the ground, I am very appreciative of the current intel you guys provide.
My question is to maybe garner insights into BMs (especailly newbies) and their interactions when they visit VM. So we know Mr E's take and that's appreciated. Perhaps he's right, but it still doesn't explain the poetic lengths some BMs take to describe VM.
Hence, as Senhor Vagabundo has suggested, we need a thread for the Literature of Prostitution.Hmmm... that idea very well could work, especially for those that wish to unleash their inner Hemingway. But I fear it would be a soon forgotten thread, with perhaps some good lost works of "artful posting". But it might address those who wish to report with a certain flair for the "over-the-top" poetic/creative writing license style.
Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh! This was one of the points that I was alluding to.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a little poetic license and creative writing, which often makes for an interesting report. But personally, other times, the "over-the-top" poetic license, just takes away from what is otherwise, a good/great straight forward report.
Personally, I try to make short order of places that aren't to my liking and move on. Perhaps list some of my pros (if any) and cons, so others can judge for themselves and move on.
But specifically, I was just curious and wondering, "Why does this poetic prose/license seem to flow from these writers, more often with reports on VM?" Or is it just me?
Many of these same writers, go on to enjoy a better, safer, cleaner and a fantastic time at the high-end clubs and venues. Where is the same level of their inner poetic Hemingway, for the high-end places, they've enjoyed way more than VM?
Hemingway/Cuba vs. ISG BM/VM, is there something to it?
AmorPorFavor
06-30-21, 19:26
Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.
Philippines:
Angeles City in the Philippines fails miserably in this category as the only thing to do other than monger is go to the crappy nearby mall. Subic is slightly better, but in general the Philippines is very weak for downtime.
Thailand:
Similarly Pattaya is nothing special- compared to Ipanema and Copacabana, Pattaya beach is just awful, and the mess of streets inland is chaotic, dangerous, and difficult for pedestrians. There are a coupe of nearby temples but that will occupy two days at most. Bangkok is a bit better, but spending too much time in Bangkok can drain your wallet fast.
Cambodia:
Phnom Penh has some interesting landmarks, but once you check them off, you are left again with a dirty, chaotic city that is not pedestrian friendly.
Brazil:
Copacabana and Ipanema / Leblon are eminently walkable areas, and some of the best time I had was walking up the Ipanema stretch on Sundays when they close the whole street to cars and it's just pedestrian traffic and taking in the sights. There are number of destinations and tours that could keep one busy as well for a few weeks. Its just an undeniably beautiful environment.
One more data point for mongers to consider.Thanks for this post. When I travel my first priority is to have a traditional vacation but I also want to have some good mongering available. I was thinking about Pattaya but will now do Rio. I love the ocean. I have done Cuba, Cartagena, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. All have both. I will definitely be making my first trip to Rio when the covid situation improves there. Hopefully this winter.
With some of the recently written posts / conversions and poetic pros, comparisons to Hemingway (and the like), with regards to VM, it's interesting to note the strong emotional connection that a place, like VM triggers within someone to write such passionate pros.
When you consider, Hemingway love to write while in Cuba and Hemingway wrote some of his best work while in Cuba, a place, considered "squalled" and far "inferior" to American on so many levels. . . it begs the question, where is the same level of bluster, "poetic tales" and passion of enchantment for the high-end establishments? Perhaps there are some? I don't remember any of recent memory.
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?I honestly don't know, what is it? In me it brings out the gag reflex, over and over again.
I don't know if Hemingway would enjoy walking down the alleys filled with the stench combination of stale urine and asscrack sweat. Or if he loved banging hookers on a mattress filled with thousands of DNA samples left by people before him. I don't doubt he did partake in something like that, but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.
What's the fascination and why romanticize this squalid and terrible place, I'll never understand. As if Rio doesn't have zillions of other cheap sex options.
Any newbie should visit once, though, just to confirm they aren't missing out on a great thing.
I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.They ARE a fucking problem.
If an upscale hotel doesn't want to let a hooker in to protect the hotel ambience, I totally understand. But in this case. Don't allow hookers at all.
That's not what they do, however. They let you bring a hooker and charge you extra for the privilege. Why exactly? Are they in a pimping business?
That's a scam. When you book for 2 people, you should be allowed to have 2 people in the room with no upcharge.
You're making it sound like you can walk in the door and proceed to your room with a girl on your arm as long as you're radiating confidence and not acting like a jerk. That's simply not true. Sometimes it works, and other times it doesn't. And I don't want to find out which is which. I just want to be able to use my room I paid for.
So, yes, the hotels are the problem, I'd say.
Point taken. Yes, let's get back to that.Nah, let's not. I'm sure some folks here enjoy good storytelling from you and Senor Vagabondo.
If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?My buddy stayed in JW and it was GF.
Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can never ever compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?
I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.Thank you...now that is a very interesting take, ZB81.
I guess for some, that perceived level of "danger" and the "unknown", may provide an adrenaline rush for sorts, that might also play into, a heightened level of writing. I can see that.
...but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.Xpartan, now that, Hemingway as a war correspondent, does dovetail nicely and rather well with ZB81's explanation and does provide a very plausible answer to my question(s).
Interesting! Food for thought, anyways!
If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?I always stay at the JW in Copa and I can confirm it is girl friendly. I always book 2 guests in my reservation so when I bring one back, they never say anything at night. Now, if you bring one back during the day and she stays with you, you have to register her. You can bring another one if you want later but you have to de-register the first one and register the other one. You can have 3 guests in your reservation in a suite only.
They might charge you an extra guest charge if you bring two girls in your normal room. I am not too sure about that but will confirm on my next trip down in August.
I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.Vila Mimosa lends itself to literary comparisons.
In addition to the perceived danger for foreign interlopers, raw and unbridled sexuality is on display amongst the squalor and decay. A place where the poor working man can afford to satisfy his sexual needs. Where a woman with very few options in society can scratch out an existence.
There are no pretenses in Vila Mimosa, but the scene is powerfully evocative.
Member #4729
06-30-21, 21:35
In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can never ever compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?This makes total sense to me- an Assman who values performance and attitude will no doubt prefer Brazil. My tastes are different and it's a good thing that we all have different tastes!
But this post made me think of a question that perhaps you, having experience of both (or others) could answer. One of the annoying things about SEA is the sheer volume of Western Mongers-who's presence and ubiquity irritates (I know I am one of them but nonetheless). Conversely, during my time here, I have seen very few Gringo mongers- most of the customers at Terma's etc being local guys. The girls have confirmed this as well. The thing is, I don't know if this is a natural state of affairs or on account of the COVID and travel difficulties.
If it is true that there are naturally less gringo mongers in Brazil, that would be another strike in favor of it's eminence on the International Stage.
Conversely, one could argue that the fact that Thailand, PH, cater to the foreign crowd does bring with it certain benefits.
So I would ask the group, how strange is it now that there are so few foreign mongers on the ground? If nothing else, the sustained local demand means there will not be a supply shock when tourism resumes.
I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used booking.com, it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.This is one of the reasons I rent an apartment during my recreational international trips.
Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Zebra.Google Fi is indeed international calling / data / roaming done simply and cheaply. Hands down the easiest, most cost-effective mobile plan I have used in my domestic and international travels. Don't leave home without it.
Vagabundo1
06-30-21, 22:54
Hemingway's novel, For Whom the Bell Tolls is about Robert Jordan, an American professor who advises one side in a 3 sided (fascists, communists, nationalists) civil war, who for 4 days is fucking a former raped prostitute, Maria, who is his love interest, and is based upon his 1937-1940 in Spain with Margaret Gellhorn, who he met in Key West, where he was on his second marriage with a strict catholic woman with whom he had kids. Gellhorn, a Jewish, smart, war correspondent who was a better writer, wrecked his home, and took him to war where he was whoring along with the rest of the expats.
Sound familiar?
I'd have to say, Hemingway probably would have liked a visit to Vila Mimosa to get his cost per fuck at 70 reais, but then he would do most of his fucking in centro prives and termas like 4 x4 and in barra termas like Paris and Perola, since barra is the Miami of Brazil, and Hem liked Key West and Cuba, where he spent a good deal of time on his boat, hunting German submarines; he did earn a Bronze Star for actual combat against the Germans in the invasion of France.
I don't know if Hemingway would enjoy walking down the alleys filled with the stench combination of stale urine and asscrack sweat. Or if he loved banging hookers on a mattress filled with thousands of DNA samples left by people before him. I don't doubt he did partake in something like that, but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.
Exec Talent
07-01-21, 01:20
I'm headed to Colombia for the next four or five weeks- not sure I will be posting on those forums though. Brazil was overall great- but as mentioned previously, it will be difficult to pass up SEA when those countries finally open up, so I'm not sure when I will return. When I do I will have a much better lay of the land, and do things much differently.
Zebra.Thanks for sharing your firsthand experiences (good and bad) and your insights.
While I have stayed at apartments rented from agents, individuals and AirBnB, I also have spent months at hotels. Truth may be that sometimes I like all the kissing up.
Safe travels. The Rio Forum has been a better place because of your contributions.
Houston Player
07-01-21, 06:03
Thanks for this post. When I travel my first priority is to have a traditional vacation but I also want to have some good mongering available. I was thinking about Pattaya but will now do Rio. I love the ocean. I have done Cuba, Cartagena, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. All have both. I will definitely be making my first trip to Rio when the covid situation improves there. Hopefully this winter.Just to add a little to this topic. They have re-done the beach in Pattaya now. It's not good but passable, although don't go in the water. However there are good beaches and swimmable water a short ferry boat or private charter boat ride away. It won't compete with all of the spots you've listed but can with Cartagena.
Houston Player
07-01-21, 06:22
In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can never ever compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?I agree with your assessment as a vistor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me, but I've posted about this before. It took me some time to be able to learn how to get the most out of these shy Asian girls. I haven't been to Brazil in 18 months, but I haven't forgotten the ease of finding hot Brasiliera tigresses as you put it. Now if anal is your thing Brazil wins hands down bar none. I have to admit at 72 years old I'm not into multi-hour fuck sessions but for shorter sessions or long time with sex at night and again in the morning these girls can be very sweet.
Mr Enternational
07-01-21, 06:54
I agree with your assessment as a vistor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me, but I've posted about this before. It took me some time to be able to learn how to get the most out of these shy Asian girls. I haven't been to Brazil in 18 months, but I haven't forgotten the ease of finding hot Brasiliera tigresses as you put it. Now if anal is your thing Brazil winds hands down bar none. I have to admit at 72 years old I'm not into multi-hour fuck sessions but for shorter sessions or long time with sex at night and again in the morning these girls can be very sweet.Even when I was just a visitor, my experience in Thailand was the total opposite of Cane's. None of my paid or unpaid chicks are shy. None have flat asses. Several like anal. I did not have to learn anything. Been doing the same thing since day 1; just being myself. The paid ones get 1000 baht ($30) for all night. Nobody rushes to leave. I usually have to put them out when I am ready to get my day started. It is like we have been to 2 different Thailands. Now Philippines can go to hell and I go there often. Those are the chicks that are built like plywood boards.
Houston Player
07-01-21, 07:09
Even when I was just a visitor, my experience in Thailand was the total opposite of Cane's. None of my paid or unpaid chicks are shy. None have flat asses. Several like anal. I did not have to learn anything. Been doing the same thing since day 1; just being myself. The paid ones get 1000 baht ($30) for all night. Nobody rushes to leave. I usually have to put them out when I am ready to get my day started. It is like we have been to 2 different Thailands. Now Philippines can go to hell and I go there often. Those are the chicks that are built like plywood boards.Yes but everyone knows there is only ONE Mr Enternational 555. I never could compete with you and I wouldn't even try. I know what works for me and I'm equally happy in Thailand and Brazil. I choose to live in Bangkok for a number of reasons but continue to visit multiple cities in Thailand and travel the world. I have an 11 year old son in Brazil so I visit him often (obviously not during Covid).
I agree with your assessment as a visitor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me.No I don't, and especially when it comes to body types. As a matter of fact, that's not simply a matter of what I "believe", but what I "know". Now, somebody can post a picture here and there that breaks the mold, but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures, and there's a reason for that. I've seen literally thousands and thousands and thousands of Asian women with my very own eyes, and I know for a fact that generally speaking they don't have the kind of bodies that I desire. Another big thing for me is the face. The face is extremely important to me, and I just don't find most of their faces to be attractive. And I can't get to them hind parts if I can't get past that face! If I see 100 Asian women, I might give consideration to only about 10, with only 3 or 4 ultimately making my cut. I'm just not attracted to Asian women. I don't like most of their bodies and faces.
I suppose I can see how they might warm up to you emotionally and not be so "shy" and agree to "A-level" (anal) more often if you're a regular (like you and Mr. E) verus a visitor like me, but those bodies and faces aren't a changing! I will never return to Asia to monger ever again. It's simply not worth it to me since I don't find enough attractive women to suit my tastes. I mean I went 72 hours in Pattaya once (ground zero for mongering in Thailand) without fucking anybody! Couldn't find anybody I liked. Totally unheard of for me anywhere else in the world I have been to, and that's a lot of places! Kojax in Manila was hitting on all cylinders when I was in the PI, but that was about it! I want to add that I don't have anything against Asian people. It's just that not much sexual attraction is there for me. It's a personal thing. For me, the Asian girls will never be able to compete with the Latinas or the white girls. That's just me.
Vagabundo1
07-01-21, 14:44
I got it free in Pattya but I was a buck fresh off the boat on libo from the swiss navy.
But callsign vagabundo like senhor Cain needs Latinas.
No I don't, and especially when it comes to body types. As a matter of fact, that's not simply a matter of what I "believe", but what I "know". Now, somebody can post a picture here and there that breaks the mold, but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures, and there's a reason for that. I've seen literally thousands and thousands and thousands of Asian women with my very own eyes, and I know for a fact that generally speaking they don't have the kind of bodies that I desire. Another big thing for me is the face. The face is extremely important to me, and I just don't find most of their faces to be attractive. And I can't get to them hind parts if I can't get past that face! If I see 100 Asian women, I might give consideration to only about 10, with only 3 or 4 ultimately making my cut. I'm just not attracted to Asian women. I don't like most of their bodies and faces.
I suppose I can see how they might warm up to you emotionally and not be so "shy" and agree to "A-level" (anal) more often if you're a regular (like you and Mr. E) verus a visitor like me, but those bodies and faces aren't a changing! I will never return to Asia to monger ever again. It's simply not worth it to me since I don't find enough attractive women to suit my tastes. I mean I went 72 hours in Pattaya once (ground zero for mongering in Thailand) without fucking anybody! Couldn't find anybody I liked. Totally unheard of for me anywhere else in the world I have been to, and that's a lot of places! Kojax in Manila was hitting on all cylinders when I was in the PI, but that was about it! I want to add that I don't have anything against Asian people. It's just that not much sexual attraction is there for me. It's a personal thing. For me, the Asian girls will never be able to compete with the Latinas or the white girls. That's just me.
Vagabundo1
07-01-21, 14:46
Woke up to fucking a girl bare to Ana foxxx videos.
Groundhog day.
Mr Enternational
07-01-21, 15:17
but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures,Totally agree, but Thailand is an anomaly in Asia. Just like people can say White chicks are not known for their big asses, but like I tell people that have never been to Brazil, White chicks there have bigger asses than Black ones; another anamoly.
I am a hips and ass man. If there were not chicks with ass then I certainly would not be around there. Maybe it is where you shop. I am not talking about chicks in gogo bars. You are not going to find chicks with big asses there. I am talking about discos, markets, and chicks just out and about. You can find them on Soi 6 as well.
I could not resist chiming in on this debate especially having hobbied significantly in Asia and Latin America among other regions. I would be surprised to hear anyone who is widely travelled to state that Brazilian women do not have the best bodies in the world. For me it is a no brainer and end of discussion. That being said I often find it very difficult to decide which place is better for mongering. Sometimes I think Brazil, other times I think Thailand. Right now I'm leaning towards Thailand. I like the Thai face. There are Thai women with delicious asses but they're different from Brazilian's, they may be big but the shape is different and not as sexy. What makes me lean towards Thailand for mongering now is the safety issue and the general agreeableness of the country for tourists. Of course the best mongering in the world for me is Germany but I would not live there for the expense and winter. I would not want to leave a country with winter to retire to one with it.
Exec Talent
07-01-21, 16:32
I could not resist chiming in on this debate especially having hobbied significantly in Asia and Latin America among other regions. I would be surprised to hear anyone who is widely travelled to state that Brazilian women do not have the best bodies in the world. For me it is a no brainer and end of discussion. That being said I often find it very difficult to decide which place is better for mongering. Sometimes I think Brazil, other times I think Thailand. Right now I'm leaning towards Thailand. I like the Thai face. There are Thai women with delicious asses but they're different from Brazilian's, they may be big but the shape is different and not as sexy. What makes me lean towards Thailand for mongering now is the safety issue and the general agreeableness of the country for tourists. Of course the best mongering in the world for me is Germany but I would not live there for the expense and winter. I would not want to leave a country with winter to retire to one with it.Guess it is time to give up on this ever really being a Thread for Rio de Janeiro Reports.
How about Russian or Czech women? One of my personal favorite are Mongolians. Great bodies and still an element of fine Asian features.
I'd have to say, Hemingway probably would have liked a visit to Vila Mimosa to get his cost per fuck at 70 reais, but then he would do most of his fucking in centro prives and termas like 4 x4 and in barra termas like Paris and Perola, since barra is the Miami of Brazil, and Hem liked Key West and Cuba, where he spent a good deal of time on his boat.................The Key West of Hemingway's days no longer exists. It's overrun with tourists and the cruise ship crowd. Gentrified beyond recognition.
I'm also not sure he would recognize the current dilapidated state of Cuba. It's gone to the opposite extreme of gentrification.
Hemingway surely would've liked Barra. In fact, I can see him right now at the Transamerica pool drinking a daiquiri. He probably would have owned a unit.
...If it is true that there are naturally less gringo mongers in Brazil, that would be another strike in favor of it's eminence on the International Stage.
Conversely, one could argue that the fact that Thailand, PH, cater to the foreign crowd does bring with it certain benefits. As far as, "eminence on the International Stage", if you're referring to Brazil as being the premier mongering destination, well I think Thailand has always held that dubious honor. I don't think Brazil has never had the mongering numbers to compete or rival, that of Thailand. Premier destination for the best sex, on the other hand is a different story.
Sheer numbers w/r to peek mongering in Brazil, was maybe 2000 to 2004 and a little less so, in 2005 to 2008. There is no one correct answer to the best place to monger or retire (w/mongering in mind). It naturally comes down to personal preferences and choices. It's also interesting to note, that mongerers, my have a different preference, based upon where they are in life.
As some BMs have recently said, they like Brazil, the women, the sex...etc, but it seems later in life, have chosen to settle in Thailand. And some would no longer consider Thailand at any future stage of life.
Without a doubt, Brazilian women have the best bodies. In my opinion, Thai women have the best bodies in Asia. Without researching scientific studies, they are a bit taller and generally a bit curvier than other Asian populations. Some believe this has to due with sharing some DNA with the Indian subcontinent. If you don't care for Asian women, this probably ain't going to make much difference to you.
Brazil also offers a lot of variety. There are obviously various ethnic and racial groups well represented. There is also every type of body size and shape. There is always one newbie in our crew who is worried that Brazilian women are too big in the bunda for him. We explain to them that there are many skinny girls in Brazil. There are short spinner types running around.
Spidy is right. 2000-2004 appeared to be Brazil's peak for foreign mongers. 2005-2008 were also good years. This might be a Rio-centric perspective during the days of Help Disco. Locals who can easily navigate the scene might find not much has changed in Brazil. However, Sao Paulo seemed to have many, many incredible escorts in the early 2000's.
I can see why older Americans and Europeans choose to retire in Thailand. I think its less stressful than living in Rio (or Sao Paulo). It might also be cheaper. Whether in reality it is true, the perception is Thai women are more passive and reserved. Thai people restrain their tempers, but I'm sure Thai women can be difficult and display passive-aggressive tendencies.
Vagabundo1
07-01-21, 23:30
Indeed.
I have been thinking of buying one.
Hemingway surely would've liked Barra. In fact, I can see him right now at the Transamerica pool drinking a daiquiri. He probably would have owned a unit.
Vagabundo1
07-02-21, 01:19
Tonight, Vagabundo fucked codename Anne Amari in 116. Cost was 80 reais. Bravo was a wingman. Totally hot little 22 yo, no kids, best ass, best little titties, best pretty mouth, from Belfort Roxo. Working on getting her out of the club, which was hopping at 18 h, no rooms were available, but we got into the room and fucked for 15 of the 30 minutes, then vibed. All was good. Wow what a body for just like 80 reais, which is 16 USD. Poxa Caralho eita.
Before that Bravo and Vagabundo reckoned 4 x4 for the 50 entrada. The english speaking woman there, her name is Eliana, had alerted Vagabundo that a concubine recruit had showed up, so Vagabundo went in and vibed with the loira, a perfect 18 yo from Jacaparagua, which vagabundo designates confidential informant 1. Also got a number for a smoking hot negra, 20 yo, has a kid, but will clearly be a BBFS concubine, and so pretty, have to take her to arrail for pictures. Vagabundo designates the negra confidential informant 69.
Vagabundo had a pernoite, popped twice today, with monique, who was taken to the pool for capuccino and misto quente, and then to posto 6 on the beach for pasteis and caiprihinhas. On the way back, the cops did stop our hero and his concubine, and they found a half smoked joint on codename Monique, but Vagabundo asked for the consulate in perfect Swiss Romanch (latin), and the cops gave up, and let our heros go.
Vagabundo paid monique 300.
The previous night another friend of Monique's had done pernoite for 350 r plus uber. BBFS, multiple pops, but she tried to upsell, and Vagabundo just put on cloths, and ejected her. Too bad, a nice 20 yo negra pussy, but it is not the only one in Rio. Vagabundo had been doing a 1. 5 hour Zoom call in English, so he was a chato.
Vagabundo is enjoying the Hemingway literary club as well.
Monger on fellas.
Vagabundo1
07-02-21, 01:22
Let's have the Sex Olympics.
Fighting Fucking and Futbol.
Fuck in Motel Malaga.
Run through a gauntlet of enemy snipers to Maracana.
Play one on one naked soccer.
Send the best teams in the world.
As far as, "eminence on the International Stage", if you're referring to Brazil as being the premier mongering destination, well I think Thailand has always held that dubious honor. I don't think Brazil has never had the mongering numbers to compete or rival, that of Thailand. Premier destination for the best sex, on the other hand is a different story.
Sheer numbers w/r to peek mongering in Brazil, was maybe 2000 to 2004 and a little less so, in 2005 to 2008. There is no one correct answer to the best place to monger or retire (w/mongering in mind). It naturally comes down to personal preferences and choices. It's also interesting to note, that mongerers, my have a different preference, based upon where they are in life.
As some BMs have recently said, they like Brazil, the women, the sex...etc, but it seems later in life, have chosen to settle in Thailand. And some would no longer consider Thailand at any future stage of life.
TravelGuy79
07-02-21, 01:23
Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.
5) How is Tinder in Rio? I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes) I have great luck with meeting girls in my own city in the US and even non working girls while I was in Thailand. I'm hoping I can meet a regular girl to show me around or even a working girl if she doesn't charge me $400 a day. I'm thinking my lack of Portuguese my cause me to strike out there.
6) ok last question. When I went to Thailand for the first time there was a line group to meet up with other board members who were there at the same time. Anything like that for Brazil on line or whatapp?
Ok please don't rip on me to hard for asking newbie questions, I really did do hours of reading before I made this post and after my trip I will make a first time trip report to help out other new guys.
Thanks!
Vagabundo1
07-02-21, 01:25
Indeed, Vagabundo concurs.
Vagabundo hereby challenges Zebrastripes to co-author "Hemingway v Conrad in Rio" a forthcoming novel.
Kind of like Blues Brothers 2: men in black in Rio de Janeiro.
Thanks for sharing your firsthand experiences (good and bad) and your insights.
While I have stayed at apartments rented from agents, individuals and AirBnB, I also have spent months at hotels. Truth may be that sometimes I like all the kissing up.
Safe travels. The Rio Forum has been a better place because of your contributions.
I've seen no update on the price of coconut in Copacabana. If you live in Estação Vila Militar, in Zona Oeste, your coconuts will be cold. They had the lowest temperature in 10 years, 8,7°see.
https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2021/07/6180021-rio-registra-a-madrugada-mais-fria-em-10-anos.html
UniversalX
07-02-21, 05:30
Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Airbnb / Hotel.
I stayed at 3 airbnb's over the 6 weeks and had no trouble at all bringing in ladies. No questions asked by the door ever. Ever. I need to do laundry, like to have a kitchen, and don't need someone to make my bed every morning, so I'm not sure what the draw of a hotel would even be considering all the hassles it seems to be causing. My first two weeks were in Copa, then I got wise and moved to Ipanema, where I stayed for a month, 3 weeks of which at a discount rate by paying cash directly to the renter.Solid Report and Advice.
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