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Peace1
08-03-10, 19:57
I'Ve been planning my trip to Brazil for quite some time and I believe that I would finally make it in October. I would first like to thank everyone that posted information ranging from prices, best practices, places to stay, etc. Your information is priceless.

As most of us have seen many incredible women from Brazil in a lot of porn videos. It would make my trip if I was able to meet Luana, Mayara Rodriquez, Virginia, Darlene, Nanda, Monique, and many others that we all have on sites like www.Tnaflix.com or http://tour. Bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com.

My question to everyone is am I just fooling myself that I would actually meet these women. I heard that Luana now lives in the USA as well as Mayara Rodriguez.

Are they all now living in the USA? If I can meet them, does anyone have their info?

If I can't meet any of them, I know my trip will still be incredible. But, it would be nice to fulfill a dream or two.

You can PM me or just write in the forum.

Thanks

DaveWave
08-06-10, 20:21
Gents:

Does anyone have any recommended visa services in San Francisco, CA? My state falls within their jurisdiction. Seems like every 5 years there's a rollover in agencies and/or contacts.

Any recommendations are appreciated in advance.

Sincerely,

DaveWave

Member #4319
08-26-10, 19:40
Hey all,

Many of the reports I have read here are stretching back a couple years. Thanks to Bubba Boy for his awesome guide. I assume things change year after year - I was wondering how Brazil fares with regard to prices for mongering?

I enjoyed Thailand for both the prices and the quality of girls (+ ease of access) - how does Brazil compare in these departments? (mainly price)

thanks!

Jason

El Greco
08-28-10, 11:39
http://www.voegol.com.br/Paginas/Promocao_tarifa.aspx

Sperto
09-06-10, 12:16
Brazilian finances are strong. :)

Jan 156
09-06-10, 13:33
Hey all,
Many of the reports I have read here are stretching back a couple years. Thanks to Bubba Boy for his awesome guide. I assume things change year after year - I was wondering how Brazil fares with regard to prices for mongering?
I enjoyed Thailand for both the prices and the quality of girls (+ ease of access) - how does Brazil compare in these departments? (mainly price)
thanks! Jason
Hi Jason. Tried to PM you as answers might be too long for quick replies on here. But your PMs are switched off. Brasil economy is strong just now. Bubba's guide won't be that far out on prices but check your conversion rates. Pussy from 10Reals to maybe 400Reals. But RJ is not the homogeneous user-friendly tourist destination like BKK. You probably have to accelerate into the fast lane to enjoy it and it costs more the less you know it.

Bubba Boy
09-06-10, 16:50
Hi Jason. Tried to PM you as answers might be too long for quick replies on here. But your PMs are switched off. Brasil economy is strong just now. Bubba's guide won't be that far out on prices but check your conversion rates. Pussy from 10Reals to maybe 400Reals. But RJ is not the homogeneous user-friendly tourist destination like BKK. You probably have to accelerate into the fast lane to enjoy it and it costs more the less you know it.

I am currentl doing an upgrade on my guide, mainly because the prices are raisen so much. Probably need to tack on 30% on the prices that I put in my last update!

Torgoch
09-12-10, 21:06
Just a quick question for those of you who live in Brazil or who have travelled there many times. Are Mastercard credit cards widely accepted in Brazil? My bank uses VISA but is switching to Mastercard, I've used VISA in Brazil without any problems. Since I have never looked for the MC logo when travelling, I can't remember if it is as widely accepted in South America. I am assuming the answer is yes .. but I would be grateful for any comments. Obrigado!

Albert Punter
09-12-10, 22:02
Generally wherever you can use visa you can use mastercard too: shops, restaurants, atm's, etc.


Just a quick question for those of you who live in Brazil or who have travelled there many times. Are Mastercard credit cards widely accepted in Brazil? My bank uses VISA but is switching to Mastercard, I've used VISA in Brazil without any problems. Since I have never looked for the MC logo when travelling, I can't remember if it is as widely accepted in South America. I am assuming the answer is yes .. but I would be grateful for any comments. Obrigado!

Jan 156
09-12-10, 23:05
I am currentl doing an upgrade on my guide, mainly because the prices are raisen so much. Probably need to tack on 30% on the prices that I put in my last update!
Looking at comments on high end places, I think you're right! I generally have a 'past caring' attitude on the occasions I go to 4x4 - even if I don't tip or pay the front desk 'mistakes.' I've felt this year sometimes that the low end (my usual stomping ground) is struggling to get prices up in line with everywhere else, but 10R shots are still obtainable in Centro; and only a few VM bars have tried to push their prices. But I think you're right on general living standards too. Supermarkets were fractionally more, my gym haggled for longer, and places I've previously shopped for goods are too much. But until Bubba's update comes out, the most recent one is still a good rule of thumb for comparative prices - you can always go through a text version and make your own updates (or use common sense that things have gone up a bit!) Then print out the bits you need.

The Watcher
09-14-10, 04:32
Just a quick question for those of you who live in Brazil or who have travelled there many times. Are Mastercard credit cards widely accepted in Brazil? My bank uses VISA but is switching to Mastercard, I've used VISA in Brazil without any problems. Since I have never looked for the MC logo when travelling, I can't remember if it is as widely accepted in South America. I am assuming the answer is yes .. but I would be grateful for any comments. Obrigado!

I have used my Mastercard for many years in Brazil and I have never had a problem with any establishment accepting Mastercard.

I, however, do advise you to call your bank before going to Brazil and letting them know you are travelling to Brazil so that your bank will not decline any charges from Brazil.

Pelicano
09-15-10, 18:12
Looking at comments on high end places, I think you're right! I generally have a 'past caring' attitude on the occasions I go to 4x4 - even if I don't tip or pay the front desk 'mistakes.' I've felt this year sometimes that the low end (my usual stomping ground) is struggling to get prices up in line with everywhere else, but 10R shots are still obtainable in Centro; and only a few VM bars have tried to push their prices. ...

BA 85 first floor, is charging R$ 35.00 for 30 minutes and other low end centro places have added on an average of 5 Reais per session of 30 min. or more. Beer seems to be holding its price and the number of beer drinkers has gone up versus those interested in a programa. Had a hard time to make it to the cabine on a recent saturday.

When business is slow, the garotas seem to get bored and it takes a greater effort to get them going. Some places that were great a few months ago, are now almost dead and others have gotten that great party atmosphere, such as Termas 116 after 7-8 PM. I just hope that their ricketty floor doesn´t colapse, with so many people in there.

In line with the high end termas higher prices, MV 30, with its 20 Reais entrance fee and lower session prices, seems to be getting some of the higher end termas business, as both times I have been there recently, they have really been full, most of the garotas are working and it was a great party atmosphere.

Bubba Boy
09-16-10, 16:51
Cancun entrance is now $50, was $30. Was in there the other day, I am sure it is not always like this but geez the quality was bad. Nothing, zero, absoolutely nothing worth doing. Even had the infamous twins from 4x4 who are just fugly now, cellulite all over their everwidening asses, a friggin carwreck!

Has anybody been into T65 of late? I noticed "Dons Cafe" has opend next door. Apparently they are 2 seperate places but once inside you can move amongst the 2? Anybody has the run down on this place? I will be going next week, but thought I would get the heads up first!

Exec Talent
09-16-10, 17:07
Cancun entrance is now $50, was $30. Was in there the other day, I am sure it is not always like this but geez the quality was bad. Nothing, zero, absoolutely nothing worth doing. Even had the infamous twins from 4x4 who are just fugly now, cellulite all over their everwidening asses, a friggin carwreck!

Has anybody been into T65 of late? I noticed "Dons Cafe" has opend next door. Apparently they are 2 seperate places but once inside you can move amongst the 2? Anybody has the run down on this place? I will be going next week, but thought I would get the heads up first!
Paid R$20 to enter the Cancun Whiskeria (Manhattan) just a short time ago. Since everything is the same in terms of access to talent and rooms, no need to go the robe route unless you don't want to get telltale signs of contact with the opposite sex on your street clothes. You may want to include this tip when you update your guide.

As for talent, I saw plenty that made the trip worthwhile and I am not a fan of big butts.

Mr North
09-18-10, 00:00
The always amusing 36 hours in.... takes on Rio.

Some interesting suggestions. Tomorrow I'm going to check out the elevator tower...

- SNIP -
7) A DIFFERENT VIEW

Forget those postcard-perfect views from Sugar Loaf and the Corcovado. This summer, as part of an effort to better integrate the favelas with the city, Rio unveiled a gleaming elevator tower that rises more than 20 stories to connect upscale Ipanema with the favela of Cantagalo above. At the corner of Rua Teixeira de Melo and Rua Barão da Torre, just off Praça General Osório, this progressive piece of architecture has an observation deck with views across Ipanema and Copacabana. Guards may stop you from taking a second set of elevators to the favela proper. But at least you’ve gotten as close as you’re likely to get on your own.

- UNSNIP -

http://travel.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/travel/19hours.html

Member #3439
09-18-10, 07:56
The always amusing 36 hours in.... takes on Rio.

Some interesting suggestions. Tomorrow I'm going to check out the elevator tower...

http://travel.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/travel/19hours.html

That's nice for civilians but, as an ISG member, you'd probably be more interested in Christopherd's tour. Saara market is always entertaining, whether it's getting eye candy or watching people swat at someone who's just stolen something and running away. The object is not to take chase and capture the thief, just to knock what he has stolen from his hands so it can be taken back to the vendor. Last time I saw it, it was a tray of sunglasses and a couple of policemen on the corner bumped him to knock it loose. Off he went, and the police went back to their conversation.

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Eric Cartman
09-22-10, 07:14
Braz Gvt recently made a lot of noise in the media about authorizing the sovereign wealth fund to buy dollars ... in an attempt to at least tell the market they were trying to halt the rise of the real. In reality, who knows? Stories said it was appreciating so much that exporters were complaining ..... that said, does nothing to stem in-country inflation I'm sure.

Vittu
09-26-10, 04:46
I will be in Brazil on a long cruise next year. Because of the high international call prices on the ship, I'd like to get a Brazilian cell for calling the U.S. That's the only reason.
What are my options? Do they have cheap, reloadable phones?

Simpleminded
09-26-10, 14:41
I will be in Brazil on a long cruise next year. Because of the high international call prices on the ship, I'd like to get a Brazilian cell for calling the USA That's the only reason.

What are my options? Do they have cheap, reloadable phones?Vittu, If you have a GSM phone you can use it in Brazil. If not, you can buy one cheap on Ebay for $30-$50. Just take the phone and your passport to any cell phone store and they will give you a sim card for about $40R. You then buy minutes on it like a prepaid phone. You can buy minutes at most newspaper kiosks.

Perkele
09-26-10, 19:37
I will be in Brazil on a long cruise next year. Because of the high international call prices on the ship, I'd like to get a Brazilian cell for calling the U.S. That's the only reason.
What are my options? Do they have cheap, reloadable phones?
No............

Ricker
09-27-10, 18:48
I will be in Brazil on a long cruise next year. Because of the high international call prices on the ship, I'd like to get a Brazilian cell for calling the U.S. That's the only reason.
What are my options? Do they have cheap, reloadable phones?

I recommend an internet place and Skype away.
Of course you can call the US from a Brazil cel but it's not cheap.

Auriflama
09-28-10, 05:32
Texting brasil

I see certain phone companies in the USA allow unlimited texting international. Of course the person I will send the text might not have that service in brasil. Any phone plans I can get here in the USA with a brasil number?

Pelicano
09-30-10, 03:52
texting brasil

i see certain phone companies in the usa allow unlimited texting international. of course the person i will send the text might not have that service in brasil. any phone plans i can get here in the usa with a brasil number?
not realy necessary to have a brazilian phone number in the us to text to brazil. most plans in brazil, even the pre pago or pre paid ones, accept incoming text messages and unlike n. america, the receiver usually does not pay a fee to receive a text message, only the sender.

with that being said, there could be a diference in the way the text message is processed by a us based carier using cdma or sprint pcs, making it incompatible with the receiving system in brazil, usually gms and you would probably, want to avoid using the accentuation used in brazil, as the us carier might interpret this as giberish or a command.

some service providers here in brazil, have a free website based internet to cell phone texting service, although they might require you to have an activated chip and a number with a credit balance from their company in your name, before you can send a text message online and some may charge a fee of about r$ 0,40 plus taxes for each text message you send. these services go under various names,such as oi tor**** web, claro tor****, vivo tor**** web and tim tor****. tor**** is how a text message is called here. msn used to have a paid online to sms texting service as well.

you can also text any cell phone for free, using applications such as jaxtr, gizmo sms, coolsms and there are several other java based applications that do this as well.

Ryjerrob
09-30-10, 06:35
Texting brasil

I see certain phone companies in the USA allow unlimited texting international. Of course the person I will send the text might not have that service in brasil. Any phone plans I can get here in the USA with a brasil number?

I've used the following service for having girls call me from Brasil. For them it's the equivalent of calling a land line versus a cell line. It's only for incoming calls though. It worked for me, so check it out.


http://www.virtufon.com/cgi/vf.php


ryjer

Bubba Boy
09-30-10, 09:04
My TIM prepaid chip sends text to and from the US no problem. Callingn the US from any Brazilian phone is expensive, kind of like it was in other countries like 20 years ago. Skype etc is the way to go. The Skype app on smart phones works great, just need an internet connection and then you have cheap calls to the US.

Ricker
09-30-10, 16:07
... With that being said, there could be a diference in the way the text message is processed by a US based carier using CDMA or Sprint PCS, making it incompatible with the receiving system in Brazil, usually GMS and you would probably, want to avoid using the accentuation used in Brazil, as the US carier might interpret this as giberish or a command ...

I use SPRINT in the US and have no problems texting to Brazil ...

Oralover
09-30-10, 20:18
Skype app on smart phones works great, just need an internet connection and then you have cheap calls to the US.TIM right now offers unlimited internet access from your phone for R$0.50/day on your prepaid chip.

I receive all my e-mails, surf the web and use google maps with GPS all day long for 50 centavos. Haven't tried Skype with it because I have a VOiP phone in the apt so I don't need it; but I'm sure that would work.

RexG
09-30-10, 22:34
My passport is expiring soon but my Brazilian tourist visa will still be valid. I have read that, in general, these visas can still be used if you present the expired passport containing the visa along with your new passport. Can anyone verify that this is true for entry into Brazil? And will I get any static from airline agents?

Bubba Boy
09-30-10, 23:03
TIM right now offers unlimited internet access from your phone for R$0.50/day on your prepaid chip.

I receive all my e-mails, surf the web and use google maps with GPS all day long for 50 centavos. Haven't tried Skype with it because I have a VOiP phone in the apt so I don't need it; but I'm sure that would work.

That is great info, a really good deal for once to be had in Brazil.

Bubba Boy
09-30-10, 23:13
My passport is expiring soon but my Brazilian tourist visa will still be valid. I have read that, in general, these visas can still be used if you present the expired passport containing the visa along with your new passport. Can anyone verify that this is true for entry into Brazil? And will I get any static from airline agents?

Technically you are correct, just keep the old passport with the valid visa and you will technically be ok. Having said this, no matter if you are correct or not, if the federal police offer thinks this is not correct you will be basically screwed. The federal police, who control the boarders and immigration are a law unto themselves. If you point out to them that they are wrong it just makes them more determined to be assholes.

A buddy of mine was entering on tourist visas and then got a permanent visa granted, hence stayed about 6 months. When he went to leave the federal police officer fined him for over staying his 3 month tourist visa despite having a permanent visa. When he argued the point it just made the situation worse, the police officer almost arrested him. When he went to pay the fine a few weeks weeks later on his return, all federal police he spoke to said he was corect and should not be fined. The moral to the story is I would go and get a new visa on the new passport if at all possible. If this is not possible and a federal police officer decides to hassle you just be as polite as possible and try to get another police officer who does not have attitude. A lot of federal police have chips on their shoulders in regards to foriegners, hence in any situations, even when you are 100% correct it is best to be humble.

Poucolouco
09-30-10, 23:14
My passport is expiring soon but my Brazilian tourist visa will still be valid. I have read that, in general, these visas can still be used if you present the expired passport containing the visa along with your new passport. Can anyone verify that this is true for entry into Brazil? And will I get any static from airline agents?

Yes, carry both passports because Brazilian visa is still valid. Happens all the time.

Sprite13
10-02-10, 07:10
RexG,
On my last trip to Brasil, I also had a still valid Brasil visa on my expired passport. Took both passports with me. Prior to that, I checked with my local Brasilian consulate and they gave me the green lights that as long as the page containing the Brasil valid visa on the expired passport is not torn or has void written on it by your country's passport office when they renew your passport, you'll be fine. I took both passports with me and I had no problem. So make sure that when you go to the passport office, when they void your expired passport, that they do not void nor tear the page that has your valid Brasil passport. This is the key. Remember that and you'll be fine.

Spidy
10-04-10, 01:54
Checked into getting a round trip flight from the USA, departing Oct 26th, 2010 and returning about 3 to 4 weeks later and US Airways at $680, Charlotte, NC (CLT) to Rio (GIG), was the cheapest quote I received. I don't typically fly out of the USA, but I'm checking my options with regards to flying from the USA.

Is this a fairly good deal? And are there any other good deals (direct flights) out of any other USA Cities that you guys may know of?

Thanks!

Vittu
10-04-10, 02:01
Grab it, it's an excellent deal. I myself booked a one-way to Rio in March, high season, for under $500 and thought it was a deal. If everything works out we will have a 90-minute layover in Charlotte. Haven't flown USAir for years but they seem to be able to fly from point A to point B.

Rio Bob
10-04-10, 13:23
Checked into getting a round trip flight from the USA, departing Oct 26th, 2010 and returning about 3 to 4 weeks later and US Airways at $680, Charlotte, NC (CLT) to Rio (GIG), was the cheapest quote I received. I don't typically fly out of the USA, but I'm checking my options with regards to flying from the USA.

Is this a fairly good deal? And are there any other good deals (direct flights) out of any other USA Cities that you guys may know of?

Thanks!

That looks about as cheap as your going to get it, check out this site for more alternatives:

http://www.clickandfly.com/





Grab it, it's an excellent deal. I myself booked a one-way to Rio in March, high season, for under $500 and thought it was a deal. If everything works out we will have a 90-minute layover in Charlotte. Haven't flown USAir for years but they seem to be able to fly from point A to point B.


I flew USAIR earlier this year to Rio, 767 refurbished business class seats very nice, flight attendents were like cleaning ladies, no personality, food was barely edible but I got there safe and sound and on time.

I have a trip coming up where I will take a non-stop out of JFK on TAM, arrives Rio 5:30 AM, gives me a full first day to get things going. In November American Airlines is coming out with a non-stop also from JFK to GIG, seems like the non-stop is coming back from the NYC area, more flights more options hopefully the price will come down but unfortunately the demand must be high.

Brazil Specialist
10-04-10, 17:42
Nice listing with links to all respective laws that can hit you if you dare to have sex in Brazil (and in most other countries too). I was not aware that sex has can bring that many problems.

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/27-precautions-before-risking-sex-with-a-woman

here you can train your portuguese
http://human-stupidity.com/pt/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/27-precautions-before-risking-sex-with-a-woman

Eric Cartman
10-05-10, 21:47
Can anyone recommend a reasonably good Portuguese tutor in Rio who would come to my office (mid-Copacabana) for perhaps an hour a few times a week?

I have spoken to 1 tutor but she is very booked up. So I need other options.

Bravo
10-10-10, 15:19
I find it really strange that for a city that produces some of the best MMA fighters in the world, they have no MMA fights/shows in Rio! I have asked around at some of the BJJ schools and the juice stands that endorse the fighters and they say they dont have MMA fights in Brasil. Really odd.

Perkele
10-10-10, 17:00
I find it really strange that for a city that produces some of the best MMA fighters in the world, they have no MMA fights/shows in Rio! I have asked around at some of the BJJ schools and the juice stands that endorse the fighters and they say they dont have MMA fights in Brasil. Really odd.

That's true.

MMA is considered too mild here.

Look for Vale Tudo. A crueler version of MMA.

Those fights are happening all the time.

Bravo
10-10-10, 17:54
That's true.

MMA is considered too mild here.

Look for Vale Tudo. A crueler version of MMA.

Those fights are happening all the time.


Where? I know its called Vale tudo in brasil, i just used MMA so people on this board would know what I was talking about. Where can I see vale tudo en rio because I asked all ove rthe place and every answer was "we dont have fights here " or "we dont know".

Bimbo Boy
10-10-10, 20:12
Can anyone recommend a reasonably good Portuguese tutor in Rio who would come to my office (mid-Copacabana) for perhaps an hour a few times a week?

I have spoken to 1 tutor but she is very booked up. So I need other options.
Put an ad in the newspaper, at the University, or in BrazilCupid. You'll have hundreds of proposals.
If you need an educated girl, go ask to the female receptionists of the better hotels. They are bilingual, have graduated from a tourist school and could orient you well.
Regards.
B.B.

Perkele
10-10-10, 20:46
Where? I know its called Vale tudo in brasil, i just used MMA so people on this board would know what I was talking about. Where can I see vale tudo en rio because I asked all ove rthe place and every answer was "we dont have fights here " or "we dont know".

Honestly I have been in one fight over the years and I'm not interested, but a little google:

http://www.portaldovt.com.br/english/

Sperto
10-11-10, 05:41
I find it really strange that for a city that produces some of the best MMA fighters in the world, they have no MMA fights/shows in Rio! I have asked around at some of the BJJ schools and the juice stands that endorse the fighters and they say they dont have MMA fights in Brasil. Really odd.
Go to Shopping Santa Clara 33 (Rua Santa Clara 33), loja 1107/1108.
There is a shop selling fight gear, Rip Dorey. The sweet attendant, Renata, can provide you with info on where to see Vale Tudo fights.

Rio Bob
10-12-10, 23:55
I'm going to Rio soon on a non stop to Rio on Tam.

For the past 13 years I have been checking my luggage in a large hard side samsonite case on Continental airlines and have never had a problem.

The samsonite lock broke recently so I went out and bought a Tumi set, carry on case 20" , suitor and check in case.

I decided to go completely carry on this trip since I have the carry on case and suitor; I followed the rules of the tsa on liquids and did everything by the book.

I called TAM today just to get some info and before I hung up she wanted to inform me about the carry on rules, so I listened to what she had to say thinking there would be no problem, this is what she told me:

You can carry on 1 carry on item that is 11.5 lbs and 1 personal item that could be a laptop and you can check in luggage up to 70 lbs.

I told her my carry on bag is 20'' in diameter and 33 lbs, she told me then I would have to check this as my carry on can't be more than 11.5 lbs. WTF?

I'm sure some of you guys flew TAM before, ever experience this?

Bubba Boy
10-13-10, 01:00
I don't think you can officially carry on any bag weighing anything close t0 33lbs. Most arilines in my experience have official allowances not much more than 11lbs. Of course when you actually check in you can usually get away with 20lbs easy enough, 33lbs is probably stretching things.

Ricker
10-13-10, 02:34
I'm going to Rio soon on a non stop to Rio on Tam.

For the past 13 years I have been checking my luggage in a large hard side samsonite case on Continental airlines and have never had a problem.

The samsonite lock broke recently so I went out and bought a Tumi set, carry on case 20" , suitor and check in case.

I decided to go completely carry on this trip since I have the carry on case and suitor; I followed the rules of the tsa on liquids and did everything by the book.

I called TAM today just to get some info and before I hung up she wanted to inform me about the carry on rules, so I listened to what she had to say thinking there would be no problem, this is what she told me:

You can carry on 1 carry on item that is 11.5 lbs and 1 personal item that could be a laptop and you can check in luggage up to 70 lbs.

I told her my carry on bag is 20'' in diameter and 33 lbs, she told me then I would have to check this as my carry on can't be more than 11.5 lbs. WTF?

I'm sure some of you guys flew TAM before, ever experience this?

They're not going to weigh your carry on at the gate, that's just what the res agent is told to say.
Just walk on as usual with a big smile.

Jan 156
10-13-10, 02:56
I've flown TAM a few times - not my fave airline but although the trip can vary quite a bit usually serviceable. Like many airlines, their strictness at check in may be influenced by how full the plane is and whether she had a decent breakfast before checking your bag.

But 70lbs is way out of order. PM me your packing list if you like (I generally travel cabin only and extended multistop). Given that I'm sometimes a bit over the official limit by a pound or two though, here's a few tricks fwiw. However heavy my carry on is, I make an effort to lift it casually with one hand, as if it weighs hardly anything; anything particularly heavy goes in a jacket pocket; I always flirt with the check in clerk and try to make her feel good (and the bag an afterthought); I pick up a duty-free bag at the earliest opportunity - putting stuff in there is not technically allowed but often they won't check; I tell myself I don't care (so I won't stress), but will remonstrate heavily if challenged (it once got me at least a free upgrade - "I've been round the world on this trip cabin baggage only and are you going to ruin my wonderful memories of your airline and great country by being the only one to refuse??") Finally I always have enough ready cash in case they say, "It would be a surcharge" - this rarely works in Europe, though they might relent and let it through (In India on Air India, I'd just pay a bribe to "fix" any problem, but don't recommend this on TAM!).

Good luck. Do think twice about carrying so much - there's ways round most of the stuff you think you need.

Sperto
10-13-10, 06:46
I'm going to Rio soon on a non stop to Rio on Tam...
I told her my carry on bag is 20'' in diameter and 33 lbs, she told me then I would have to check this as my carry on can't be more than 11.5 lbs. WTF?
I'm sure some of you guys flew TAM before, ever experience this?
I flew with TAM several times. Sometimes only with a carry on luggage.

33 lbs is about 15 kg. It shouldn't be a problem. I usually put my bag over the shoulder pretending it's very light when I walk up to the counter. Chit-chat with the attendant to distract her from giving attention to your luggage.

Golfinho
10-13-10, 08:59
Since TAM joined Star Alliance, I just show them my Continental Million Miler card and Star Alliance Gold gold and I get seated in front. Great they're doing it, al least until the honeymoon wears off.

Air India. jaja Money Power. flew with them to Dhaka last week. Then, on Biman where -- surprise -- their jet was an old Varig craft. Still had all the signage in Portuguese, everything, even the food service cart with Varig on it. Might have ridden the same one from JFK to GRU twenty years. It looked THAT old.

Vittu
10-13-10, 13:15
Getting laid in Rio is a no-brainer. But what kind of a plug will I need for my notebook?

Perkele
10-13-10, 13:19
I flew with TAM several times. Sometimes only with a carry on luggage.

33 lbs is about 15 kg. It shouldn't be a problem. I usually put my bag over the shoulder pretending it's very light when I walk up to the counter. Chit-chat with the attendant to distract her from giving attention to your luggage.

I fly with TAM all the time and they are alert on the size of carry on luggage.

Actually you can have 2. One with certain size (can't remember now) and 5 kilos and one laptop. These can be separate.

Why is it so difficult to check in the luggage? I know that eg. Galeao airport in Rio is slowest in the world, what comes to getting the luggage but its not possible to take all in carry on. Be considerate. Imagine if you all should travel with your carry on on your feer under the seat in front of you? Space is sparce in airplanes and if someone takes oversized carry on it means that someone else needs to travel without leg space. On long haul that would be really unconfortable.

My opinion is that anyone who wants to take oversized carry on should pay extra seat for to be able to do so.

Perkele
10-13-10, 13:24
Getting laid in Rio is a no-brainer. But what kind of a plug will I need for my notebook?

If you mean power, its more complicated. In Rio there are at least 3 different kind of power outlets.

1st is US style flat pin outlet.
2nd is almost similar as in North Europe, 2 round pins, although very thin.
3rd is new brazilian standard. 3 round pins.

None of these are really compatible with any international standards. I doubt that there is an adapter for the new 3 pin power outlet for sale outside of Brazil.

Now, when you finally check in the hotel or see your apartment check which type of power plug you need. Then go to supermarket and buy an adapter. They're cheap, 1 - 2 reais. They are called: Benjamin. Don't ask me why.

Golfinho
10-13-10, 15:34
Now, when you finally check in the hotel or see your apartment check which type of power plug you need. Then go to supermarket and buy an adapter. They're cheap, 1 - 2 reais. They are called: Benjamin. Don't ask me why.The supermarket? You can't go a block in Copa without bumping into a guy selling them on the street.

Ricker
10-13-10, 16:12
I fly with TAM all the time and they are alert on the size of carry on luggage ...



Yep, if the size of the carry-on is xtra large, it may draw attention and they may not allow it.

They will not, however, be alerted as to the weight or over-weight of the bag if the bag is of relatively normal size.

Casually walk on, casually stow it in the over-head bin, everyone contente :)

Rio Bob
10-13-10, 16:39
Yep, if the size of the carry-on is xtra large, it may draw attention and they may not allow it.

They will not, however, be alerted as to the weight or over-weight of the bag if the bag is of relatively normal size.

Casually walk on, casually stow it in the over-head bin, everyone contente :)

Yes thank you all for your comments.

The bag is regulation carry on 20" but it weighs 33 lbs, she made a point to tell me they only allow 11.5 lbs.

I really wanted to go carry on this time because I was worried that Tam may lose my bag but it's non stop jfk - gig so I don't think there is much to worry about.

Either way I'll be ok.

Monger X
10-14-10, 15:43
I'm going to Rio soon on a non stop to Rio on Tam.

For the past 13 years I have been checking my luggage in a large hard side samsonite case on Continental airlines and have never had a problem.

The samsonite lock broke recently so I went out and bought a Tumi set, carry on case 20" , suitor and check in case.

I decided to go completely carry on this trip since I have the carry on case and suitor; I followed the rules of the tsa on liquids and did everything by the book.

I called TAM today just to get some info and before I hung up she wanted to inform me about the carry on rules, so I listened to what she had to say thinking there would be no problem, this is what she told me:

You can carry on 1 carry on item that is 11.5 lbs and 1 personal item that could be a laptop and you can check in luggage up to 70 lbs.

I told her my carry on bag is 20'' in diameter and 33 lbs, she told me then I would have to check this as my carry on can't be more than 11.5 lbs. WTF?

I'm sure some of you guys flew TAM before, ever experience this?

Yep same thing happened to me a couple years ago when flying from GRU to Porto Alegre. I just got off an international flight with the carry on I always travel with and the counter-person made me check it as it was over the 11.5 pound limit.

Rio Bob
10-23-10, 00:33
I found this article interesting, hopefully there won't be any retaliation on Americans going through passport control because of this. Continental Airlines was involved, we'll see what happens:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/21/us.brazil.air.marshals/?hpt=T1

Beach Star
10-23-10, 01:39
I found this article interesting, hopefully there won't be any retaliation on Americans going through passport control because of this. Continental Airlines was involved, we'll see what happens:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/21/us.brazil.air.marshals/?hpt=T1

The air marshals went way over the top. They are there to protect against terroism, not get involved in simple delinquent behaviour which should be left to the crew ,eventally and if necessary the Captain, as it always has been before

Rio Bob
10-23-10, 02:06
The air marshals went way over the top. They are there to protect against terroism, not get involved in simple delinquent behaviour which should be left to the crew ,eventally and if necessary the Captain, as it always has been before

Yes you're right but I also find it interesting that they have 2 air marshalls on a Rio flight, obviously they consider this a high threat destination.

Bubba Boy
10-23-10, 02:57
The air marshals went way over the top. They are there to protect against terroism, not get involved in simple delinquent behaviour which should be left to the crew ,eventally and if necessary the Captain, as it always has been before

Well actually it is the air marshalls responsibility to act against basically any act that can endanger the safety of a flight according to the "Tokyo convention", of which Brazil has signed. The lady was intoxicated and out of control, biting one of the marshalls, hence deserved to be arrested. If you or I did this, we would surely be arrested and would deserve to be.

To me this is just another example of how corrupt Brazil is, basically if you have connections you make the law. If it wasn't the fact that she was a judges wife she would have been arrested by the federal police. Even if you are absolutely correct in any your actions and you come up against a connected Brazilian you will be arrested and found guilty.

The corrupt & inefficient Brazilian legal system is the number 1 problem holding Brazil back from sustainable prosperity.

Lorenzo
10-23-10, 04:04
I found this article interesting, hopefully there won't be any retaliation on Americans going through passport control because of this. Continental Airlines was involved, we'll see what happens:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/21/us.brazil.air.marshals/?hpt=T1
I wonder what those "alternate travel documents" were. How could they get out of the country without passports?

Rock Harders
10-23-10, 06:22
Mongers-

The air marshals were without a doubt traveling on "Official" US Passports, which means alternative travel documents were most likely their personal US Passports. All US Passport holders regardless of class of passport are required to have a visa to enter Brazil. It appears the air marshals also had Brazilian Visas in their personal US Passports, which they then used to exit Brazil. Questions remain about the semantics of exiting Brazil without the required entry stamp but if the air marshals were frequent travelers to Brazil with numerous stamps this would not be a problem.

Sorte,
Rock Harders

Sky Ryder
10-23-10, 08:02
Yes you're right but I also find it interesting that they have 2 air marshalls on a Rio flight, obviously they consider this a high threat destination.

I think you would be surprised on how many flights to how many destinations there really are Air Marshals on the aircraft. The reasons might seem far fetched, but then again that is difficult to know the "why".
Given that I have been in the industry for a while, I can tell you that while many people think they know who the Marshals are, the only way you will know is if they want you to know.
As far as them doing "the right thing" in this instance, the mission for them has changed a lot since they were put on the airplanes. In the past they were told to stay out of "minor" disputes and only get involved if the flight was under threat. I don't know for sure, but I think they are allowed to "uncover" for other reasons now, after a few crewmembers and passengers were injured on flights by "idiots" and the Marshals were not allowed to intervene.
Trust me when I tell you these ladies and gentlemen of the Air Marshall service are very well trained, and very proficient at what they do. I would be very surprised if they got involved when they shouldn't have or "overeacted". I think it is much more likely the press reports are in error or don't have all the facts.

Bubba Boy
10-23-10, 13:02
Alternate travel docs can be a temporary passport issued by the US embassy. The temp passport is basically a cardboard version on the real thing but of course temporary. Anyone that loses their passport can be issued with "alternative travel documents", this can be issued quickly by the embassy to anyone, usually within 48 hours if ID can be proved quickly. In the case of the airmarshals, it was probably have done in minutes.

The real interesting thing would be to see the exact way they got out of Rio, through customs quickly. Possibly accompanied by an embassy member with a diplomatic passort? Possibly an embassy staff member called the airline and they were escorted through customs quickly without the federal police asking too many questions.

Poucolouco
10-23-10, 14:34
Alternate travel docs can be a temporary passport issued by the US embassy. The temp passport is basically a cardboard version on the real thing but of course temporary. Anyone that loses their passport can be issued with "alternative travel documents", this can be issued quickly by the embassy to anyone, usually within 48 hours if ID can be proved quickly. In the case of the airmarshals, it was probably have done in minutes.

The real interesting thing would be to see the exact way they got out of Rio, through customs quickly. Possibly accompanied by an embassy member with a diplomatic passort? Possibly an embassy staff member called the airline and they were escorted through customs quickly without the federal police asking too many questions.

More likely they just used a NEXUS or SENTRI Identification card which is a valid alternative travel document.

Bimbo Boy
10-23-10, 15:18
... Trust me when I tell you these ladies and gentlemen of the Air Marshall service are very well trained, and very proficient at what they do. I would be very surprised if they got involved when they shouldn't have or "overeacted". I think it is much more likely the press reports are in error or don't have all the facts.
Yes they are probably well trained, but there are numerous examples of security officials in the US abusing their authority. Just do a google search with the keywords "don't tase me Bro". Even a simple verbal remark can put you in deep trouble with these people.
I go the USA as little as I can. I do not feel secure there, not because of criminals, but because of the excessive powers and frequent abuse of security officials.
Passing the immigration controls or passing any airport security check in the USA is a very unpleasant experience.

Perkele
10-23-10, 16:19
Yes they are probably well trained, but there are numerous examples of security officials in the US abusing their authority. Just do a google search with the keywords "don't tase me Bro". Even a simple verbal remark can put you in deep trouble with these people.
I go the USA as little as I can. I do not feel secure there, not because of criminals, but because of the excessive powers and frequent abuse of security officials.
Passing the immigration controls or passing any airport security check in the USA is a very unpleasant experience.

The US citizens are simply too sensitive. As we all know: Anything you say can and WILL be used against you.

USA is worth only for shopping.

Gfe Finder
10-23-10, 16:23
more likely they just used a nexus or sentri identification card which is a valid alternative travel document.

only at the us borders with canada and mexico, respectively. i'm betting on the alternate travel documents being a temporary passport. the reason that i don't think that they used personal or diplomatic/official passports as rock harders suggests is that you still need a visa and to exit, you need the receipt with an entry stamp and your passport information in it (which would obviously have to match what is in this case a confirep001ed passport.)

Edward M
10-23-10, 17:02
I spoke to a stewardess recently and she told me that air crews get extra passports valid for one only year so that they can have one passport to travel while the other one is out getting visas.

Vitrea
10-25-10, 05:55
Guys, I am considering a trip to Rio in May and June of next year. According to weather reports it is a bit cool that time of the year. The temperature itself does not bother me but I am worried about possible lack of talent or harder to find good talent in the "low season". Any plusses and minuses of going that time of the year? I am planning 10 days in Rio and 10 days or so further north towards Fortaleza. I would imagine Northeast Brazil is nice that time of the year.

Thank you.

RexG
10-26-10, 15:05
Next month I will be travelling through Rodoviária Novo Rio on my way from Paraty to Copacabana. At this bus station I will transfer from the Paraty bus to bus #126 bound for Copa. I will arrive at this transfer point around 9PM. How safe is this area after dark? I will be carrying a few things (e.g backpack with camera) that might attract thieves. Would it be wiser to take a cab to Copa?

Sperto
10-26-10, 15:19
Next month I will be travelling through Rodoviária Novo Rio on my way from Paraty to Copacabana. At this bus station I will transfer from the Paraty bus to bus #126 bound for Copa. I will arrive at this transfer point around 9PM. How safe is this area after dark? I will be carrying a few things (e.g backpack with camera) that might attract thieves. Would it be wiser to take a cab to Copa?
Instead of a taxi you can take the frescão, Real Bus, just outside the rodoviária.
The regular city bus might not be safe that late in the evening, considering you are carrying luggage.

Bubba Boy
10-26-10, 16:20
Has anyone taken an interstate bus out of Foz? I have a question, is there a border or customs check on the highway out of Foz?

The reason I ask is that by Air they basically scan your luggage upon entering the departure area of the airport for people with more than their $300 allowable duty free allowance. They are getting more and more thorough with their searches now, kind of really getting to be a pain in the ass. The airline staff also check you passport for a valid visa stamp, actually they only check to see if you have the entry paper stamped. Hence I was wondering that a bus may be a better option for my twice yearly shopping trip to the border area. However was wondering if there is a check on the highway as well to check the buses going north? I was thinking maybe catch a bus to Curitiba and then air to Rio if there is a less intrusive border check via road.

Beach Star
10-26-10, 20:48
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Well actually it is the air marshalls responsibility to act against basically any act that can endanger the safety of a flight according to the "Tokyo convention", of which Brazil has signed. The lady was intoxicated and out of control, biting one of the marshalls, hence deserved to be arrested. If you or I did this, we would surely be arrested and would deserve to be.

QUOTE

Nonsense. The Tokyo convention of 1963 consolidated the rights of airplane commanders, not modern day anti-terrorism air marshals. As I sald before this delinquency on board, IF, it existed, should have been left to the crew to resolve. The crew also has extensive training in dealing with such situations. You have assumed the woman was guilty,just because she is the wife of a judge, which was not proved. If the marshals were so sure of themselves why run so fast when questioned?? The only illegal thing here.crystal clear, seems to be the air marshals exit from Brazil.

Bubba Boy
10-26-10, 23:21
Nonsense. The Tokyo convention of 1963 consolidated the rights of airplane commanders, not modern day anti-terrorism air marshals. As I sald before this delinquency on board, IF, it existed, should have been left to the crew to resolve. The crew also has extensive training in dealing with such situations. You have assumed the woman was guilty,just because she is the wife of a judge, which was not proved. If the marshals were so sure of themselves why run so fast when questioned?? The only illegal thing here.crystal clear, seems to be the air marshals exit from Brazil.



According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/world/us.brazil.air.marshals_1_air-marshals-brazilian-judge-brazilian-authorities?_s=PM:WORLD

MS Clive
10-27-10, 00:39
According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/world/us.brazil.air.marshals_1_air-marshals-brazilian-judge-brazilian-authorities?_s=PM:WORLDBubba Boy, Do not pay attention to all these mongrels.

And yes, I do agree that the air marshals were wronged. They will have no problems getting new passports once back in the US. Focus man, focus. Need to refocus on getting the updated version of your esteemed guide. Waiting eagerly for it. Leave these unimportant matters to us mortals.

Golfinho
10-27-10, 01:00
I spoke to a stewardess recently and she told me that air crews get extra passports valid for one only year so that they can have one passport to travel while the other one is out getting visas.The 'extra passports' have a 2-year validity. at least mine does.

Beach Star
10-27-10, 01:15
According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/world/us.brazil.air.marshals_1_air-marshals-brazilian-judge-brazilian-authorities?_s=PM:WORLD

The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

Perkele
10-27-10, 01:40
The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

Does it now.

Question, since when the americans have assumed their position when clearly wrong????

Honestly....

Bubba Boy
10-27-10, 02:21
The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

The first part of your argument is not correct. They did not arrest the person in Brazilian Territory. They arrested her in International Airspace on an American plane, this falls under American law until the plane lands. Upon landing they then turned her over to the Federal Brazilian Police upon arrival. This is standard legal procedure as per the various legal treaties that Brazil has signed. According to the various news articles that reported the happenings, the marshalls followed legal procedure to the letter. Whether you agree with Marshalls or not is not really relevant to this argument.

As to why they chose to leave the country? . Brazil has proven time and time again that they do not have a fair and just legal system. I would do the same thing if I was in the same situation. Luckily the Brazilian legal/immigration system is so inffecient it would be easy to flee the country without a problem. Nobody would want to stick around because Brazil does not respect international laws. Even if you ask your average Brazilian, they are embarassed by their corrupt legal system and scared of their own police.


Look up the David Goldman case, pure example of how a Brazilian with influence can make their own laws.

B J Lover
10-27-10, 02:36
Guys, I am considering a trip to Rio in May and June of next year. According to weather reports it is a bit cool that time of the year. The temperature itself does not bother me but I am worried about possible lack of talent or harder to find good talent in the "low season". Any plusses and minuses of going that time of the year? I am planning 10 days in Rio and 10 days or so further north towards Fortaleza. I would imagine Northeast Brazil is nice that time of the year.

Thank you.

I went memorial day week 2009 - beaches hot and talent incredible. Especially Thursday before Memorial Day - club packed.

Vitrea
10-27-10, 03:02
I went memorial day week 2009 - beaches hot and talent incredible. Especially Thursday before Memorial Day - club packed.

Thank you. That is very helpful.

Fred100
10-27-10, 13:49
The first part of your argument is not correct. They did not arrest the person in Brazilian Territory. They arrested her in International Airspace on an American plane, this falls under American law until the plane lands. Upon landing they then turned her over to the Federal Brazilian Police upon arrival. This is standard legal procedure as per the various legal treaties that Brazil has signed. According to the various news articles that reported the happenings, the marshalls followed legal procedure to the letter. Whether you agree with Marshalls or not is not really relevant to this argument.

As to why they chose to leave the country? . Brazil has proven time and time again that they do not have a fair and just legal system. I would do the same thing if I was in the same situation. Luckily the Brazilian legal/immigration system is so inffecient it would be easy to flee the country without a problem. Nobody would want to stick around because Brazil does not respect international laws. Even if you ask your average Brazilian, they are embarassed by their corrupt legal system and scared of their own police.


Look up the David Goldman case, pure example of how a Brazilian with influence can make their own laws.

This goes for any situation that involves you in the Brazilian legal system. If you have the option to run, best take that option. As a gringo your chances of a fair crack of the whip are definitely against you. Non existent, if going up against a Brazilian with connections. The general phychy of the population at all levels does not expect fair play.

Wonderguy
10-27-10, 23:29
I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.

BionicMan
10-28-10, 08:10
I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.
Two pins european will work and taking a two flat oins (USA) adaptor will sort out if soemwhere they are on US sockets
In most cases the socket is dual: two pins euro/USA

Vitrea
10-28-10, 09:53
I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.Thanks to wiki.

Brazil is one of a few countries that uses both 120 and 240 volts for everyday appliances. Expect the voltage to change back and forth as you travel from one place to the next -- even within the same Brazilian state, sometimes even within the same building. There is no physical difference in the electric outlets (power mains) for the two voltages.

Electric outlets usually accept both flat (North American), and round (European) plugs. Otherwise adaptors from flat blades to round pins are easy to find in any supermarket or hardware shop. Some outlets are too narrow for the German "Schuko" plugs. The best makeshift solution is to buy a cheap T-connection and just force your "Schuko" in, -the T will break, but it will work. Very few outlets have a grounding point, and some might not accept newer North American polarized plugs, where one pin is slightly larger. Again, use the cheap T. Near the border with Argentina, you might occasionally find outlets for the Australia/New Zealand-type plug. If crossing the border, you'll probably need this adapter as well.

In 2009/2010, a the IEC 60906-1 was introduced in Brazil and some newer buidings already have it. It is backwards compatible with the Europlug, but it has a receded socket. Again, T-plugs can be used as adapters for other common formats.

Frequency is 60Hz, which may disturb 50 Hz electric clocks. Blackouts are less and less frequent, but you always run a risk at peak of high season in small tourist towns.

http://www.kropla.com/electric2.htm

Bubba Boy
10-28-10, 23:41
This kind of bias and prejudice makes me mad.
"Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye?", Matthew 7:1-29So you are basically saying that nobody can say anything bad about another countries legal system because that would mean they are bias and prejudice. Give me a break!

Vitrea
10-29-10, 06:42
Do you infer that the USA legal system is fair? What would be the chances of a simple Brazilian policeman against an American citizen with connections in an USA court ? My guess is about the same chances as the American marshals in Brazil. Not any better.

This kind of bias and prejudice makes me mad.

"Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye?", Matthew 7:1-29It is a fact that some countries, societies and cultures are more corrupt than others. Observing that fact is not prejudice. Check out the latest data from transparency org about corruption perception of ALL countries of the world released this week. Brazil is not on the bottom but significantly lower than the top 20 least-corrupt nations.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results

And yes, in my opinion if a Brazilian air marshall were to arrest the wife of a famous American judge, the marshall would have been treated more than fairly. The Judge and his wife would have been in trouble and the cop probably would have been interviewed by all major networks and sent home with commendation. I am not prejudiced. That is a fact of life.

Helpmann
10-29-10, 17:47
...Getting back on track. Out of the 80 countries that I have visited, maybe 20 have an efficient corrupt free legal system. Those 20 countries are generally the most developed countries. The basis for all successful countries with a high standard of living is to have a just legal system. Brazil does not have a just legal system, if it did, the economy would just grow and grow. Now before someones says the Brazilian economy is growing strongly, well yes it is. However it has had booming economies before, big booms in fact. Sadly, because it does not reform its legal system the boom turns to a bust as most of the wealth generated is stolen by the elite upper class and the underclass's suffer. Will this boom last? Who knows, but the reforms the government has been putting in place are painfully slow and serious reforms are still needed if Brazil wishes to continue its development.Well written Bubba Boy.

-Helpmann :)

Admin
10-30-10, 05:19
Greetings Everyone,

I moved the last several pages of discussion regarding "Racism against foreigners in Brazil" to another thread in this forum titled "Racism against foreigners in Brazil".

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3158

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Illini333
10-30-10, 20:40
I know its not good to generalize but overall do Brazilian girls make good wives to take back to the U.S.A.?? I know its different for every region and Im sure girls from inland are a lot different from girls that are from Rio or Sao Paulo. Im talking to some girls from Sao Paulo and Rio that are non pro and just wondering if I should have second thoughts about starting a serious relationship with these girls. Im coming to brazil in december for a while. thanks

Prosal
10-30-10, 22:40
I know its not good to generalize but overall do Brazilian girls make good wives to take back to the U.S.A.?? I know its different for every region and Im sure girls from inland are a lot different from girls that are from Rio or Sao Paulo. Im talking to some girls from Sao Paulo and Rio that are non pro and just wondering if I should have second thoughts about starting a serious relationship with these girls. Im coming to brazil in december for a while. thanks
Without being controversial, loooooong gone are the days when brasilian girls wanted to escape their country. The women aren't desperate anymore to leave Brasil (or, for that matter, FSU countries) to escape economic doom, to live a boring middle-class suburban life in Colombus-Ohio or Frankfurt-Germany. Economies have improved dramatically everywhere since the 90's. Sex-hungry foreign tourists aren't interesting anymore as an escape option.

Furthermore, the few "normal" girls who want to leave abroad got everywhere exposed to higher-class tourism and have raised their standard. They aren't just looking for "anyone", but rather "the One".

That said, the poorer girls remain one-track mind gold-diggers. It's in their blood and called survival. If it's what you are looking for.

Perkele
10-30-10, 23:19
I know its not good to generalize but overall do Brazilian girls make good wives to take back to the U.S.A.?? I know its different for every region and Im sure girls from inland are a lot different from girls that are from Rio or Sao Paulo. Im talking to some girls from Sao Paulo and Rio that are non pro and just wondering if I should have second thoughts about starting a serious relationship with these girls. Im coming to brazil in december for a while. thanks

That depends on several factors. First of all, what is girls background. Is she from favs or is she high class girl. Life of these two extremes are enormous.

Also these things depends of your background and how do you see world in general.

First ask from yourself a few questions:

Do I tolerate people with less education than myself.
Do I want to support someone for rest of her life.
Do I stand the prejudice of my friends, co-workers, family, neighbours etc.
Do I have balls to go through the interracial relationship in general

Honestly, think what you're doing.

Although as per my understanding there is nothing worse than american women so you can't go too wrong.

Vitrea
10-31-10, 00:34
That depends on several factors. First of all, what is girls background. Is she from favs or is she high class girl. Life of these two extremes are enormous.

Also these things depends of your background and how do you see world in general.

First ask from yourself a few questions:

Do I tolerate people with less education than myself.
Do I want to support someone for rest of her life.
Do I stand the prejudice of my friends, co-workers, family, neighbours etc.
Do I have balls to go through the interracial relationship in general

Honestly, think what you're doing.

Although as per my understanding there is nothing worse than american women so you can't go too wrong.

Good one. You hit the nail on the head with your last line. Of course, this group of men are biased. :-)

Golfinho
10-31-10, 02:30
First ask from yourself a few questions:

Do I tolerate people with less education than myself.
Do I want to support someone for rest of her life.
Do I stand the prejudice of my friends, co-workers, family, neighbours etc.
Do I have balls to go through the interracial relationship in general.Why the assumption Illini33 is aiming for uneducated mulatta favelada, unless of course that's your target profile Answer to the man's question is: 'What are you looking for? Anybody can bag something easy to catch.

RexG
10-31-10, 04:06
I am a bit confused about Jú Panteras and Mural da Prazer (http://www.muraldoprazer.com/mulheres/index.php?cat=largodomachado). Although I may be mistaken, both seem to have a privé near the Largo do Machado metro station. Actually it appears that they have the same phone number (3185-4060). Can anyone confirm that they are indeed the same establishment? And I assume that Mural da Prazer is different than Bel Prazer? Thanks.

Simpleminded
10-31-10, 06:52
That depends on several factors. First of all, what is girls background. Is she from favs or is she high class girl. Life of these two extremes are enormous.

Also these things depends of your background and how do you see world in general.

First ask from yourself a few questions:

Do I tolerate people with less education than myself.
Do I want to support someone for rest of her life.
Do I stand the prejudice of my friends, co-workers, family, neighbours etc.
Do I have balls to go through the interracial relationship in general

Honestly, think what you're doing.

Although as per my understanding there is nothing worse than american women so you can't go too wrong.

It is true that there is nothing worse than women. The problem in bringing a brazilian to the US is that they will be infected with american culture and become the american woman you were trying to avoid. The only way I know to avoid this is to move to Brazil and stay with the girl there.

Eric Cartman
11-01-10, 23:20
Anyone able to recommend a cleaning service to do a one-time clean, top to bottom, of an apartment prior to move-in of a tenant?

I need a service to literally scrub the floors, walls, etc. of an apartment in Copa prior to the tenant taking possession.

Not a job for a day-maid as it requires thoroughly cleaning several rooms, bathrooms, walls, etc.

Anyone know a good service that would do this even for a higher price?

Thx.
Cartman

Hughdad
11-02-10, 17:23
It is true that there is nothing worse than women. The problem in bringing a brazilian to the US is that they will be infected with american culture and become the american woman you were trying to avoid. The only way I know to avoid this is to move to Brazil and stay with the girl there.Simpleminded,

You are truly living up to your name. There are many terrific American women. I find the US women that are most difficult have been f'd over by dickweed guys. Not every US woman gets infected by the culture of the Kardasians, Real Housewives of NJ and shop til you drop.

Simpleminded
11-02-10, 22:07
Simpleminded,

You are truly living up to your name. There are many terrific American women. I find the US women that are most difficult have been f'd over by dickweed guys. Not every US woman gets infected by the culture of the Kardasians, Real Housewives of NJ and shop til you drop.

Well I live in NJ unfortunately. I don't hang out with "Housewives of NJ" type of men or women. The men that I know are either divorced (not from cheating or abusing their wives) or living sexless miserable lives where they basically have to give in to whatever their wives want for fear of getting divorced and having to live like a pauper.
If I stated that people were born with five fingers on each hand, you would be correct in saying that there are some people who are born with more than five fingers or less than five fingers. When I said that US women are infected with the US culture, of course you are right by saying that not all of them are. I prefer not to lose half my money trying to pick the few good needles in a haystack. To each his own, but the odds are against it.

Prosal
11-02-10, 23:34
If I stated that people were born with five fingers on each hand, you would say that there are some people who are born with more than five fingers or less than five fingersYou have met Hughdad. Quibbling at its best.

Hughdad
11-04-10, 13:35
You have met Hughdad. Quibbling at its best.Says the silly little twit who only comes here to bash Brazil and talk about Russia.

Golfinho
11-04-10, 21:07
Says the silly little twit who only comes here to bash Brazil and talk about Russia."I'm the dude with the Berluti shoes and Cortigiani shirt sitting at the corner, sipping Beluga vodka, and flirting with girls passing by."

Hughdad, take it easy on this guy, will you. You don't often come across entertainment value this rich. Let's enjoy the Prozzal character for what it is, before this fantasy life and misanthropic boundless ego is constrained without a keyboard somewhere in a rubber room.

Hughdad
11-05-10, 20:10
"I'm the dude with the Berluti shoes and Cortigiani shirt sitting at the corner, sipping Beluga vodka, and flirting with girls passing by."

Hughdad, take it easy on this guy, will you. You don't often come across entertainment value this rich. Let's enjoy the Prozzal character for what it is, before this fantasy life and misanthropic boundless ego is constrained without a keyboard somewhere in a rubber room.Agreed, he is a real tool.

Member #3439
11-07-10, 06:42
Anyone able to recommend a cleaning service to do a one-time clean, top to bottom, of an apartment prior to move-in of a tenant?

Anyone know a good service that would do this even for a higher price?

Thx.
Cartman

Try one of the girls at VM who don't seem to be getting any business, like the ones standing on the stairs on the side of Rua Ceará opposite the catacombs. In my estimate, if they'll stand down there all night hoping to score R$20 or whatever their actual takehome is for a session; they'll probably clean your place for no more than twice that. Seriously..

Unrelated to you or that:
I see a bunch of crazy talk below, I must say, 'wow'...Do Brasileiras make good wives for Americans to take home? Haha. It's like watching an 80's horror movie, the general plot and the outcomes are well-known to all, but the people still go through that door or turn that corner? I wonder what it would be like turned in reverse, with people coming to America to find American wives. Everyone bashes Americanas, but if someone can't find a mate in the diversity of the US, going abroad to a country with a different language is not going to help.

Prosal
11-08-10, 00:04
Hughdad, take it easy on this guy, will you. You don't often come across entertainment value this rich. Let's enjoy the Prozzal character for what it is, before this fantasy life and misanthropic boundless ego is constrained without a keyboard somewhere in a rubber room.
Since mid-July, I have been (and posted about on ISG) in Vilnius, Varsaw, Minsk, Tashkent, Riga, Caracas, Medellin, Cartagena, Bucaramanga, Rangoon, Bangkok, Dhaka, and now Rio..The weird habit to post on internet about places where you have never stepped a foot in is called mythomania. It's a mental disorder. You should consult. :)

Golfinho
11-08-10, 12:14
The weird habit to post on internet about places where you have never stepped a foot in is called mythomania. It's a mental disorder. You should consult. :)Imagining that you alone are able to procure air passage and roll out of your chic Las Halles hellhole, petit ami, that is your very own special brand of mania.

Vittu
11-08-10, 16:38
Thank you for all the info on this site. Here is a nonmongering query. I will be traveling with a MacBook Pro used in the U.S. What kind of a plug will I need for it in Brazil. Will I need a transformer

Bubba Boy
11-08-10, 16:53
Thank you for all the info on this site. Here is a nonmongering query. I will be traveling with a MacBook Pro used in the U.S. What kind of a plug will I need for it in Brazil. Will I need a transformer

The majority of places in Brazil use the same plug as the US. Hence you will not need anything. Rio & Sao Paulo mostly use 110v US plug.

Some other places in Brazil use 240v, but they usually have a 110v plug somewhere in the hotel/apartment.

Btw, Notebooks have an inbuilt AC adaptor connected to the power plug (the black box), hence you can use them pretty much anywhere in the build and they will adapt to whatever voltage is present, ie 110v upto 250v all works fine.

Wonderguy
11-08-10, 17:24
I have been looking around, but I can't find a list of massagems in Copacabana.

Could somebody please attach a link to a list I expect must be hidden here somewhere.

Thanks in advance

BionicMan
11-08-10, 20:21
I have been looking around, but I can't find a list of massagems in Copacabana.

Could somebody please attach a link to a list I expect must be hidden here somewhere.

Thanks in advance
looked around...where?

MCruddy
11-08-10, 20:34
Thank you for all the info on this site. Here is a nonmongering query. I will be traveling with a MacBook Pro used in the U.S. What kind of a plug will I need for it in Brazil. Will I need a transformer

Will be in Rio March 2-12th. Any chance you'll be there? Wouldn't mind meeting with a like minded monger.

MCruddy

Member #3439
11-09-10, 05:17
I have been looking around, but I can't find a list of massagems in Copacabana.

Could somebody please attach a link to a list I expect must be hidden here somewhere.

Thanks in advance

There is no list for Copa. Search the Rio thread with keywords 'termas', 'club', 'clubbe', 'bar' or 'NS Copa' and you'll find plenty of venues to keep you entertained in the area. Massagems aren't the big thing in Copa. Copa is setup for guys who like to drink alot, pickup from bars, or get action in the back rooms of a bar.

Poucolouco
11-10-10, 12:09
There is no list for Copa. Search the Rio thread with keywords 'termas', 'club', 'clubbe', 'bar' or 'NS Copa' and you'll find plenty of venues to keep you entertained in the area. Massagems aren't the big thing in Copa. Copa is setup for guys who like to drink alot, pickup from bars, or get action in the back rooms of a bar.

Try these: http://www.amantesecia.com.br/
http://www.copaterapias.com/v2.0/home.php
Copamassage http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veragencia.php?agencia=250

Rio Bob
11-10-10, 19:16
On my recent trip to Rio I did a few pass by's of Ho beach and the talent was very light. Last time I remember that area having any crowds was 2004 or 2005. There seemed to be more touts than customers, one of the touts told me that more girls should be showing up in a half hour as they sleep late, it was already 2 PM. He wanted me to rent a chair and have a beer and wait for them.

A short video of the area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWn6Jque0F4


I don't know how many of you have ever seen someone get rescued from drowning on Copacabana beach. It's quite an experience, what happens is the lifeguard on the beach spots the swimmer in trouble and instead of swimming out to rescue you they call a helicopter. The Helicopter hovers over the swimmer and a lifeguard jumps out of the helicopter into the water with the swimmer. The helicopter then drops a basket into the water and everybody gets into the basket and is moved to shore. I captured this on my cheap little camera but it has limited capabilities and from the distance and height it doesn't do it justice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUowqp2UrU

Mr Enternational
11-10-10, 20:47
On my recent trip to Rio I did a few pass by's of Ho beach and the talent was very light. Last time I remember that area having any crowds was 2004 or 2005. There seemed to be more touts than customers, one of the touts told me that more girls should be showing up in a half hour as they sleep late, it was already 2 PM. He wanted me to rent a chair and have a beer and wait for them. I was wondering if they still had touts around there. If he expected you to believe the gdps would be out after 2:30 when the sun goes down at 5:00 then he should have tired to sell you some swamp land as well.

I don't know how many of you have ever seen someone get rescued from drowning on Copacabana beach. It's quite an experience, what happens is the lifeguard on the beach spots the swimmer in trouble and instead of swimming out to rescue you they call a helicopter. The Helicopter hovers over the swimmer and a lifeguard jumps out of the helicopter into the water with the swimmer. The helicopter then drops a basket into the water and everybody gets into the basket and is moved to shore.There is a good reason for that. That water gets pretty damn rough and will not hesitate to pull you out to sea. I almost drowned in it myself a couple of years ago and I'm a first class swimmer and an advanced open water diver. Now whenever I see the signs up I don't go near it. It is no joke.

Helpmann
11-10-10, 21:05
...I don't know how many of you have ever seen someone get rescued from drowning on Copacabana beach. It's quite an experience, what happens is the lifeguard on the beach spots the swimmer in trouble and instead of swimming out to rescue you they call a helicopter. The Helicopter hovers over the swimmer and a lifeguard jumps out of the helicopter into the water with the swimmer. The helicopter then drops a basket into the water and everybody gets into the basket and is moved to shore. I captured this on my cheap little camera but it has limited capabilities and from the distance and height it doesn't do it justice...Thanks for the heads up. On one of my trips, I saw a helicopter flying over, but I could not determine what was going on.

-Helpmann :)

Perkele
11-11-10, 01:51
I was wondering if they still had touts around there. If he expected you to believe the gdps would be out after 2:30 when the sun goes down at 5:00 then he should have tired to sell you some swamp land as well.
There is a good reason for that. That water gets pretty damn rough and will not hesitate to pull you out to sea. I almost drowned in it myself a couple of years ago and I'm a first class swimmer and an advanced open water diver. Now whenever I see the signs up I don't go near it. It is no joke.

Who on earth swims on Copacabana beach?

Didn't you know that all sewage from Copa, Ipanema and Leblon goes straight to the ocean. No treatment at all.

Actually a few months ago a researcher, brazilian, said in TV that all waters around Rio de Janeiro are so polluted that if Brazil would follow international standards it would be prohibited to swim anywhere near Rio.

Well, good luck. I'd go to dermatologist.

Golfinho
11-11-10, 03:25
Who on earth swims on Copacabana beach?

Didn't you know that all sewage from Copa, Ipanema and Leblon goes straight to the ocean. No treatment at all.

Actually a few months ago a researcher, brazilian, said in TV that all waters around Rio de Janeiro are so polluted that if Brazil would follow international standards it would be prohibited to swim anywhere near Rio.

Well, good luck. I'd go to dermatologist.Actually, a dermatologist will tell you the sand in Rio is more polluted than the water. and, who on earth is sits in the sand on Copacabana beach?

Rio Bob
11-11-10, 04:15
I was wondering if they still had touts around there.


Yeah, some of the old touts from 10 years ago are still there. I haven’t sat there in almost 10 years and they still remember my name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXy4SihluRw

Sperto
11-11-10, 06:35
A short video of the area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWn6Jque0F4
Nice videos.
What about ground zero? How does it goes with the construction of Museu da Imagem e do Som?

Any news about "the new Help" (Café del Mar)? Just a false alarm?

Torgoch
11-11-10, 12:47
Any news about "the new Help" (Café del Mar)? Just a false alarm?Looks like a false alarm to me Sperto. I've been here for over a week and every time I've walked past it in the evenings (admitedly before 11 pm) it has been almost empty with a few well-dressed couples or groups. Certainly no single women dressed to advertise availability. The only action point on Alantica is Balcony.

Rio Bob
11-11-10, 13:57
actually, a dermatologist will tell you the sand in rio is more polluted than the water. and, who on earth is sits in the sand on copacabana beach?

it's true i read an article in o globo a few years back about how they tested the sand on the beach. it was filled with all sorts of bacteria mostly from dog [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) and whatever the polluted waters brought up.

i have a friend who used to walk along the water and take photos; he developed an infection that he can't get rid of for years, very serious.

not only is it polluted but it has a dangerous undertow. i have told this to non mongers and they ask then why do you go? i don't tell this to people anymore.



nice videos.
what about ground zero? how does it goes with the construction of museu da imagem e do som?

any news about "the new help" (café del mar)? just a false alarm?

i saw no activity going on at ground zero, looks like they just knocked help down and now have a big hole in the ground and nothing is going on.

i didn’t get a chance to check out café del mar but if it was supposed to be the new help than why was the girl telling me about it at dolce vita (you would think she would have been there). it’s probably just another place like balcony or dolce vita that the girls plan on visiting just to see if they can get a customer but not “the” replacement for help.

Golfinho
11-11-10, 15:12
Not only is it polluted but it has a dangerous undertow. I have told this to non mongers and they ask then why do you go? I don't tell this to people anymore.

I saw no activity going on at ground zero, looks like they just knocked Help down and now have a big hole in the ground and nothing is going on.Haven't gone in the copa water since 2004 since seeing trash and refuse and a sneaker in the wave spume. Course, it's what you can't see that's really bad. The untertow nothing compared to Ipanema or Barra.

Behind the temp fence and what's left of the old back wall at the former-Help site, there is no 'hole in the ground', just a detritus-strewn and concrete rubbled lot. Let's get some graffito up on that fence: it's going to be there for a while.

Torgoch
11-13-10, 17:21
What is it with these garotas?

One minute they're fucking your brains out and sucking every drop from your scrotum.

Next, in the post-coital cuddle period, they're asking you what church you go to and then telling you off when you say you don't believe in all that crap. Naturally they are evangelical happy-clappies.

Then, they're shoving it back up their ass and screaming at you to go faster and to destroy their cu.

I have had several girls on this trip in Rio, behave like this..

All I can say is PRAISE THE LORD!!

Poucolouco
11-14-10, 14:20
There is no list for Copa. Search the Rio thread with keywords 'termas', 'club', 'clubbe', 'bar' or 'NS Copa' and you'll find plenty of venues to keep you entertained in the area. Massagems aren't the big thing in Copa. Copa is setup for guys who like to drink alot, pickup from bars, or get action in the back rooms of a bar.


Try these: http://www.amantesecia.com.br/
http://www.copaterapias.com/v2.0/home.php
Copamassage http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veragencia.php?agencia=250

Playa, Here's a new one. They advertise opening in Nov but they are not open yet and no date is given. Like most new establishments in Rio, nothing ever happens on schedule. http://www.edenspario.com.br/

Torgoch
11-14-10, 16:35
Playa, Here's a new one. They advertise opening in Nov but they are not open yet and no date is given. Like most new establishments in Rio, nothing ever happens on schedule. http://www.edenspario.com.br/

It is very close to where I am staying, I'm here until the end of November so if it is open before then I will have a look.

Sperto
11-17-10, 07:14
Slutlover posted a link in the Manaus section to Manaus taxi fare calculator.

The site works for all of Brazil. I've tested it on several cities and it's very accurate.
http://www.tarifadetaxi.com

Thanks, Slutlover.

Sperto
11-17-10, 19:26
The site works for all of Brazil. I've tested it on several cities and it's very accurate.
I was playing around some more with the taxi fare calculator. I found one city that gave an interesting result.
Salvador, airport to Mercado Modelo, the correct fare is R$ 49 according to the site. In reality the taxis at the airport have their "fixed price" of R$ 90. Bargaining might give you a price of R$ 75.

This shows that bahianos are ladrões. :D

I shouldn't complain as last time I only payed R$ 40 when taking a taxi leaving passengers at the airport.

There is also a bus that charges about R$ 6. However it takes ages to arrive to your destination.

Rio Bob
11-18-10, 00:02
This shows that bahianos are ladrões. :D


When I arrived in Rio last month, I arrived early and didn't sleep much on the plane. I was tired and lazy so I went up to the taxi booths to see how much it would cost to go to Copa. All of them told me 90 reais. I was no longer lazy, I continued walking and all the guys waiting in the lobby quoted me similar prices, some went down to 80 reais.

I was prepared to go to the departure level to catch a taxi bringing someone in but I looked outside on the arrival level and noticed 6 yellow taxis waiting in a queue. I went to the first one and asked if he uses the meter and he said yes. He had a brand new taxi and he asked me which way do I want to arrive Copa via Botofago or Lagoa?

I had never been asked this question before, so I said lets take the quickest route and he went via Botafogo. The taxi fare was 42 reais.

The funny thing is on my way back to the airport the taxi driver asked me the same question, I gave him the same answer and he went via Lagoa.

Through the years of course I have gone both ways but during high traffic times I always thought one way could be better than the other but during no traffic times does it matter and which is less mileage, anybody know?

Golfinho
11-18-10, 00:26
I was prepared to go to the departure level to catch a taxi bringing someone in but I looked outside on the arrival level and noticed 6 yellow taxis waiting in a queue. I went to the first one and asked if he uses the meter and he said yes. He had a brand new taxi and he asked me which way do I want to arrive Copa via Botofago or Lagoa?

I had never been asked this question before, so I said lets take the quickest route and he went via Botafogo. The taxi fare was 42 reais.

The funny thing is on my way back to the airport the taxi driver asked me the same question, I gave him the same answer and he went via Lagoa.

Through the years of course I have gone both ways but during high traffic times I always thought one way could be better than the other but during no traffic times does it matter and which is less mileage, anybody know?Taxi from copacabana posto 5 to airport via Lagoa/Reboucas this morning for a fare of 40 reales. In a 'normal' traffic situation. Can't help but think that all meters are not created equal.

Jan 156
11-18-10, 01:42
He had a brand new taxi and he asked me which way do I want to arrive Copa via Botofago or Lagoa?

I had never been asked this question before, so I said lets take the quickest route and he went via Botafogo. The taxi fare was 42 reais.

The funny thing is on my way back to the airport the taxi driver asked me the same question, I gave him the same answer and he went via Lagoa.

Through the years of course I have gone both ways but during high traffic times I always thought one way could be better than the other but during no traffic times does it matter and which is less mileage, anybody know?

If you are at the Isabel end of Copa, Botafogo is closer. If you're at the Ipanema end, Lagoa is closer. In the middle, it's either, but Botafogo is often quicker.

If it's rush hour you may get traffic jams approaching North Centro, either way, but traffic can grind to a long standstill around Lagoa at peak periods. Yet at night Lagoa's a very pretty view. Coming in to Copa from the airport, I always thrill to the sight of Sugar Loaf and Botafogo bay and the lovely long stretch of road that breathes Rio to me. That view is much better on the way in to Copa than when leaving. When leaving Copa, the lights over Lagoa leave beautiful fond memories and images in my mind and I like going that way to the airport (and it manages to miss the traffic of south Centro). The beautiful view of Lagoa sort of justifies the taxi over the price of the bus.

Golfinho
11-18-10, 03:36
If you are at the Isabel end of Copa, Botafogo is closer. If you're at the Ipanema end, Lagoa is closer. In the middle, it's either, but Botafogo is often quicker.

If it's rush hour you may get traffic jams approaching North Centro, either way, but traffic can grind to a long standstill around Lagoa at peak periods. Yet at night Lagoa's a very pretty view. Coming in to Copa from the airport, I always thrill to the sight of Sugar Loaf and Botafogo bay and the lovely long stretch of road that breathes Rio to me. That view is much better on the way in to Copa than when leaving. When leaving Copa, the lights over Lagoa leave beautiful fond memories and images in my mind and I like going that way to the airport (and it manages to miss the traffic of south Centro). The beautiful view of Lagoa sort of justifies the taxi over the price of the bus.You may thrill to the site of sugar loaf/bay (and feel the breath of Rio in a low tide stench) and carry your beautiful and fond lagoa light site memories, but you will no longer see the roadside favela panorama (or the goats) as barrier fencing now blocks out the view extending from airport. Getting ready for the show. (saw the same fencing strategy in Delhi recently during the Commonwealth Games). Leaving Copa for the airport, there's also the Fig. Malgahaes way out, but not all taxistas seem to favor this one.

Tiradentes
11-18-10, 04:19
What is it with these garotas?

One minute they're fucking your brains out and sucking every drop from your scrotum.

Next, in the post-coital cuddle period, they're asking you what church you go to and then telling you off when you say you don't believe in all that crap. Naturally they are evangelical happy-clappies.

Then, they're shoving it back up their ass and screaming at you to go faster and to destroy their cu.

I have had several girls on this trip in Rio, behave like this..

All I can say is PRAISE THE LORD!!


Just don't ask them to fuck on jesus birthday.

Sperto
11-18-10, 06:50
Through the years of course I have gone both ways but during high traffic times I always thought one way could be better than the other but during no traffic times does it matter and which is less mileage, anybody know?
Lagoa or not? Going by Lagoa is quicker if you stay south of Rua Santa Clara. That is, if there ain't a traffic jam at Lagoa.

Kice-Suco (Copa) to Galeão R$ 38. Exactly what I paid last time (plus a small tip).

Can't help but think that all meters are not created equal.
I guess the meters should work equal.
I've seen scams (a long time ago), e.g the driver had the meater connected to a button on his gear stick. When he changed the gears he took the opportunity to press the button and the fare took a big jump.
It was very obvious what he was doing, but the situation solved itself.

Wherever I go in Brazil I have the habit of never entering a taxi before me and the driver agreed on a price. It works well as long as you know the correct fares.

Rio Bob
11-19-10, 00:44
Lagoa or not? Going by Lagoa is quicker if you stay south of Rua Santa Clara. That is, if there ain't a traffic jam at Lagoa.

This is the neighborhood I usually stay in. For the past 7 years I have either stayed on Rua Santa Clara or one block north Rua Figueiredo de Magalhaes. So looks like mid point so I can go either way.

This last trip I stayed on Figueiredo de Magalhaes as some of you know because you sent me PM's telling me you know the apto. This last trip reminded me of a poster who several years ago asked a question if one could stay in a girl friendly hotel and never leave it. Apparently he was concerned about safety. He figured he could eat in the hotel, drink in the hotel and have escorts delivered when needed.

Well I didn't do exactly this but this last trip I pretty much stayed on Rua Figueiredo de Magalhaes, had escorts delivered several times, I hung out at the Marriott pool and bar every day which is on the same street and went to the swing club 2A2 which is on Rua Figueiredo de Magalhaes. I think I went to Balcony 2 or 3 nights.

While it doesn't sound too exciting I had a great time, something very different than previous trips where I'm all over the place.



Yet at night Lagoa's a very pretty view. When leaving Copa, the lights over Lagoa leave beautiful fond memories and images in my mind and I like going that way to the airport (and it manages to miss the traffic of south Centro). The beautiful view of Lagoa sort of justifies the taxi over the price of the bus.

Yes you're right, I also like passing through Lagoa during Christmas time to see the floating Xmas tree in the Lagoa.

It's about the only time I see Lagoa recently is going to or from the airport. Years ago I used to go to Chikos bar and Mistura Fina in Lagoa all the time but both places are gone now. Gotta find some new places in Lagoa, it's a nice area. I think there is a Nuth there now, maybe I'll check it out next trip.

Brazil Specialist
11-19-10, 18:40
Anyone able to recommend a cleaning service to do a one-time clean, top to bottom, of an apartment prior to move-in of a tenant?

I need a service to literally scrub the floors, walls, etc. of an apartment in Copa prior to the tenant taking possession.

Not a job for a day-maid as it requires thoroughly cleaning several rooms, bathrooms, walls, etc.

Anyone know a good service that would do this even for a higher price?

Thx.
Cartman

I might try a maid of mine.

Know also a few girls that can do it. There used to be one who used to do a deal cleaning apartment and cleaning your pipes. But she is gone ........

Now please don't be cheapskates. I had people being pissed that the maid charged R$ 5 more for a one time job, then she would charge me on a yearly basis twice a week. Be reasonable or a bit generous.

Otherwise, I am sure most rental services have their own cleaners.

PM me with all contact info.

Jan 156
11-19-10, 20:44
Gotta find some new places in Lagoa, it's a nice area. There's a beautiful unpretentious theatre next to the race track. But I recommend Catacumba Park for a very pleasant stroll with (or without) a garota . . . interesting statues and history on the gentle walk to the summit - which then gives stunning views - usually not very busy so can be quite romantic. Plus a lot of girls have never been there so it's nice to surprise and pleasantly impress. There's also the Botanics (good day out - more impressive than the average botanic gardens) and that photogenic little park - whose name escapes me for a moment - built by an architect as his own retreat under the gaze of Corcovado - great for photography, painting, relaxation, picnics and a coffee away from the bustle; but these two places are more of a problem to get to, being on the north side of Lagoa (main road gets full of fumes and it is so posh your paid-for partner will stand out like a sore thumb). Catacumba however is almost walking distance if you follow the lake anti-clockwise from Copa.

BootyTapper
11-21-10, 01:23
Slutlover posted a link in the Manaus section to Manaus taxi fare calculator.

The site works for all of Brazil. I've tested it on several cities and it's very accurate.
http://www.tarifadetaxi.com

Thanks, Slutlover.

Another excellent tool, I just tested it myself and works perfectly. My friend down there says the rate is accurate.

BootyTapper
11-27-10, 18:46
I am looking for sport stores in Rio to buy my futebol jerseys. I used to buy them at the beach, but not paying those prices for fakes anymore. Does anyone know where this sell the camisas Selecao with the sponsors on it? I have been hunting online for sports stores in Copa and coming up empty. I am willing to travel to get my jerseys.

Bubba Boy
11-27-10, 19:14
I am looking for sport stores in Rio to buy my futebol jerseys. I used to buy them at the beach, but not paying those prices for fakes anymore. Does anyone know where this sell the camisas Selecao with the sponsors on it? I have been hunting online for sports stores in Copa and coming up empty. I am willing to travel to get my jerseys.

The market on top of Urguaiana metro station centro has tons of that type of stuff. They are fake, not the real ones of course. Dirt cheap as well. When the Police do a sweep they disappear for a day or 2, but get restocked quite quickly.

Exec Talent
11-27-10, 20:07
I am looking for sport stores in Rio to buy my futebol jerseys. I used to buy them at the beach, but not paying those prices for fakes anymore. Does anyone know where this sell the camisas Selecao with the sponsors on it? I have been hunting online for sports stores in Copa and coming up empty. I am willing to travel to get my jerseys.
I buy them for friends in the US at Rio Sul mall.

Poucolouco
11-29-10, 19:11
I am looking for sport stores in Rio to buy my futebol jerseys. I used to buy them at the beach, but not paying those prices for fakes anymore. Does anyone know where this sell the camisas Selecao with the sponsors on it? I have been hunting online for sports stores in Copa and coming up empty. I am willing to travel to get my jerseys.

Butique da Gallera - Ave N. Sra de Copacabana 245A
Official licensed shirts for Flamengo, Fluminense, Botofogo, Vasco, America, and Brasil.
It's between rua Rodolfo Dantas and rua Duvivier on Ave NS de Copacabana, two blocks from Balcony Bar.

BootyTapper
11-30-10, 02:55
I am looking for sport stores in Rio to buy my futebol jerseys. I used to buy them at the beach, but not paying those prices for fakes anymore. Does anyone know where this sell the camisas Selecao with the sponsors on it? I have been hunting online for sports stores in Copa and coming up empty. I am willing to travel to get my jerseys.


Thanks for the info guys, will definitely check them out.

SlutLover
12-07-10, 09:41
Much more Dengue fever is expected this season than last. Article (in Portuguese, by the Ministry of Health) detailing the levels of Aedes agypti infestation in various major Brazilian cities (Aedes agypti carries the disease):

http://portal.saude.gov.br/portal/aplicacoes/noticias/default.cfm?pg=dspDetalheNoticia&id_area=124&CO_NOTICIA=11951

Interesting that Manaus is one of the least infested places. As for state capitals, there are alerts in Porto Velho and Rio Branco.

Sunset Strip
12-10-10, 20:55
I was in Rio for Christmas once. Everybody swore things would be shut down, but by the afternoon Mabs and Meia Pataca had opened and people were all over the beach. So Copa is a bit slower but still there are women out and about.

Does anybody know about the centro casas? This question was asked last year, but I cannot seem to locate the answer?

I think the answer was they are closed Christmas Day and the weekend, otherwise during the week it is business as usual in centro.

SS

Sperto
12-10-10, 22:03
I was in Rio for Christmas once. Everybody swore things would be shut down, but by the afternoon Mabs and Meia Pataca had opened and people were all over the beach. So Copa is a bit slower but still there are women out and about.

Does anybody know about the centro casas? This question was asked last year, but I cannot seem to locate the answer?

I think the answer was they are closed Christmas Day and the weekend, otherwise during the week it is business as usual in centro.

SSIf the weather is good there will be a lot of people on the beach, in the restaurants and the bars.

Hopefully no GP is working on Christmas Eve. I espect they will be their with family, friends or in the church, and not in the street or in a bar selling their p*$$$.

Christmas holiday means a lot to Brazil, beign the largest catholic country in the world. Unless you spend it with some brazilian friends I guess it will be quite boring.

Safado69
12-14-10, 16:29
In case you missed it this weekend:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7143554n&tag=contentMain; cbsCarousel

Sperto
12-20-10, 11:43
I think a TIM number used to be inactivated after three or six months if there was no recharging of the credits. Now I heard that there is a new rule that says the operator isn't allow to inactivate the number. Can somebody confirm how it really works?

Bubba Boy
12-20-10, 12:45
I think a TIM number used to be inactivated after three or six months if there was no recharging of the credits. Now I heard that there is a new rule that says the operator isn't allow to inactivate the number. Can somebody confirm how it really works?I don't think they used to deactivate the number at all. Basically they used to wipe the credits after about 3 months, hence the number appeared dead, however when you added credits everything just came back alive again and worked just fine. I know people that visit Rio like 2 x a year and have had the same number for like 5 years.

Sperto
12-21-10, 08:56
Anybody managed to buy domestic GOL tickets online paying with a foreign VISA card?

It worked well one year ago but now it seems impossible.

Bubba Boy
12-21-10, 12:44
Anybody managed to buy domestic GOL tickets online paying with a foreign VISA card?

It worked well one year ago but now it seems impossible. I can't even get my Brazilian Visa to work on GOL. Their payment processing is very very ordinary which really sucks because if you need to buy the ticket from a travel agent they charge you 10% more.

Sperto
12-21-10, 15:45
I can't even get my Brazilian Visa to work on GOL. Their payment processing is very very ordinary which really sucks because if you need to buy the ticket from a travel agent they charge you 10% more.Some things just don't work in Brazil. GOL's online help sucks. The people that attend calls at their service center in São Paulo are no Einstein's.

Rock Harders
12-21-10, 18:40
Mongers-

I am always able to buy tickets on GOL on their website using my SPG American Express, which is issued directly by Amex. The key is to select "other countries" on the top right corner of the GOL website where there is a drop down menu that lists Brasil along with several other South American countries and ultimately a "other countries" option. Using the international version of the GOL website, you will have no problem processing the payment using an AMEX, even if you are buying the ticket in someone's else's name (as I frequently do for GF). There is an option to pay using "verified by visa" and / or "mastercard secure" but these payment options go through a third party payment processing system and are not directly processed by GOL (Amex is).

Sorte,

Rock Harders

Sperto
12-21-10, 19:09
Mongers-

I am always able to buy tickets on GOL on their website using my SPG American Express, which is issued directly by Amex. The key is to select "other countries" on the top right corner of the GOL website where there is a drop down menu that lists Brasil along with several other South American countries and ultimately a "other countries" option. Using the international version of the GOL website, you will have no problem processing the payment using an AMEX. With American Express it works fine, but not with foreign Visa or Mastercard.

An option is to get GOL to keep the ticket on Hold until you arrive in Brazil.

Sperto
12-21-10, 20:03
Hopefully the info about tickets can be useful to others as well.

TAM doesn't accept foreign cards on their brazilian website. They do accept it on their international websites. Unfortunately the prices becomes about 25% higher on their international websites.

Rio Bob
12-21-10, 20:25
Hopefully the info about tickets can be useful to others as well.

TAM doesn't accept foreign cards on their brazilian website. They do accept it on their international websites. Unfortunately the prices becomes about 25% higher on their international websites. Can you use this one?

http://www.clickandfly.com/

Usually prices are cheaper than Tam or any other airline website.

Sperto
12-21-10, 20:37
Can you use this one?

http://www.clickandfly.com/

Usually prices are cheaper than Tam or any other airline website. Thanks, Bob.

The prices are about the same as on TAM's international websites.

Liveheree
12-22-10, 00:45
I know you can buy Viagra in Brazil. Can you also buy drugs such as Vicodin or Ritalin over the counter in Brazil?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function didn't come up with anything.

Rio Bob
12-24-10, 16:01
I know you can buy Viagra in Brazil. Can you also buy drugs such as Vicodin or Ritalin over the counter in Brazil?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function didn't come up with anything. Non controlled drugs can be easily bought over the counter in Brazil. On the other hand controlled substances are not that easy to obtain, it depends upon the pharmacist.

You need to go in and ask the pharmacist directly and discretely. If you pick your pharmacies randomly then expect a lot of no's and best to know what you're asking for if you don't know any Portuguese.

You may want to try sticking close to the beach around ground zero.

These days it's best to buy such items on the internet and have them delivered to your house.

Lorenzo
12-24-10, 21:47
You may want to try sticking close to the beach around ground zero.What exactly do you mean by "ground zero?" Are you talking about ho beach across from the Othon? (Sorry, but I guess I'm not one of the cognoscenti.)

Amerioca
12-24-10, 21:56
Non controlled drugs can be easily bought over the counter in Brazil. On the other hand controlled substances are not that easy to obtain, it depends upon the pharmacist.

You need to go in and ask the pharmacist directly and discretely. If you pick your pharmacies randomly then expect a lot of no's and best to know what you're asking for if you don't know any Portuguese.

You may want to try sticking close to the beach around ground zero.

These days it's best to buy such items on the internet and have them delivered to your house. For the most part, I agree with SB. Personally, I have only had success at pharmacies in Zona Norte for Rx needed drugs, and it did take someone that knew someone to get it through.

I'm not a big fan of generic V and C. However, like SB stated, it is more efficient and productive to order generics online.

Rio Bob
12-25-10, 16:33
What exactly do you mean by "ground zero?" Are you talking about ho beach across from the Othon? (Sorry, but I guess I'm not one of the cognoscenti.)Through the years many posters on this site and many others referred to Help as ground zero. So yes I am referring to the general neighborhood you mention, it is just a hint.

Bravo
12-25-10, 18:32
Everytime I pass the travel agencies in the mall, I notice that they have flyers up for cruises. 3,5 and 7 day cruises! Anyone ever taken one of these cruises? HOw much did they cost? Was it worth it?

I went on one here in the states, a 4 days cruise from Miami to the bahamas. The cruise was nice but I wouldn't do it again. Hardly any sexy attractive single women! Either they were all old and fat or the young sexy ones were there on their honeymoon. I have a couple of girl sthat I might like to take with me on a 4 day cruise. Plus I have the feeling that brasilians know how to party and I would see some serious eye candy on the ship.

Brazil Specialist
12-25-10, 20:50
With American Express it works fine, but not with foreign Visa or Mastercard.

An option is to get GOL to keep the ticket on Hold until you arrive in Brazil. I doubt they hold it until you arrive in Brazil.

I used to buy tickets with international Mastercards.

But credit cards are a problem here, so I finally got myself a gol card, just for the convenience. That one you probably cannot get.

I could buy cards for people, if they sent me the money via paypal. On the other hand, I am really not in the travel agency business, so I usually do this only for girls, best friends, etc.

Rodeo9112
12-25-10, 21:41
Gents,

Having already mongered in Rio and Sao Paulo with great experiences, I was wondering what other (3) cities the more experienced folks on this board would recommend in Brazil for mongering. I have run into some great girls from Bahia while in Rio, so that was a place I was thinking about but, I don't know.

Also, can someone break down the characteristics of women from the major cities (regions) of Brazil-I. E. Well educated / less educated, upper / lower class, light / morena / dark skin, indigenous facial features, wide / narrow hips, big / petite asses, large / small breasts, surgically / hormone enhanced, majority male / female, blonde / brunette, high / low income, large / low number of GDPs, etc.

Thanks,

Rodeo

Sperto
12-25-10, 21:44
I doubt they hold it until you arrive in Brazil.

I used to buy tickets with international Mastercards.

But credit cards are a problem here, so I finally got myself a gol card, just for the convenience. That one you probably cannot get.

I could buy cards for people, if they sent me the money via paypal. On the other hand, I am really not in the travel agency business, so I usually do this only for girls, best friends, etc. I don't want a GOL card, no need for that. BTW an Amex would work just as well, but I don't want that neither.

An option would be to ask one of my friends with a brazilian credit card or a Gf to buy the ticktes, but I've already solved it so GOL will hold the tickets until I arrive in Brazil (without you doubting it or not).

What annoys me is that it supposed to work just fine paying online with a foreign VISA card, but it's not working in reality. It's not really such a big surprise.

Lorenzo
12-26-10, 06:00
Gents,

Having already mongered in Rio and Sao Paulo with great experiences, I was wondering what other (3) cities the more experienced folks on this board would recommend in Brazil for mongering. I have run into some great girls from Bahia while in Rio, so that was a place I was thinking about but, I don't know.

Also, can someone break down the characteristics of women from the major cities (regions) of Brazil-I. E. Well educated / less educated, upper / lower class, light / morena / dark skin, indigenous facial features, wide / narrow hips, big / petite asses, large / small breasts, surgically / hormone enhanced, majority male / female, blonde / brunette, high / low income, large / low number of GDPs, etc.

Thanks,

RodeoThe only cities I have mongered in besides Rio are Salvador and Curitiba; I had good experiences in both. Salvador is a majority black city, so the GDPs follow suit. Most are black or morena. The two girls I had were earthy and passionate, did everything I wanted. In Curitiba, on the other hand, most of the girls are of European descent, so you will find many who are fair-skinned and blonde, but also some morenas as well. I also had two girls there; service was adequate but not as enthusiastic as you would find in Rio or points north. Suggestion: if you call an escort service in Curitiba, make sure you specify exactly what services you expect. I actually got a girl there who wouldn't kiss-the only time this has ever happened to me in Brazil!

As for the rest of the information you are seeking, good luck. I doubt that most posters on this forum go into a mongering session looking for the type of information that pollsters or census-takers seek. They are there to fuck.

Mr Enternational
12-26-10, 08:14
Everytime I pass the travel agencies in the mall, I notice that they have flyers up for cruises. 3,5 and 7 day cruises! Anyone ever taken one of these cruises? HOw much did they cost? Was it worth it?

I went on one here in the states, a 4 days cruise from Miami to the bahamas. The cruise was nice but I wouldn't do it again. Hardly any sexy attractive single women! Either they were all old and fat or the young sexy ones were there on their honeymoon. I have a couple of girl sthat I might like to take with me on a 4 day cruise. Plus I have the feeling that brasilians know how to party and I would see some serious eye candy on the ship. Me and 9 wingmen just did the 3 day Miami Bahamas at the beginning of the month. Even though I did manage to fuck a 57 year old Italian American from Vegas who was actually on the cruise to meet up with a guy she met the month before off match.com, and got the contact of 3 more chicks, only 1 that I have been keeping in regular contact with, what you said was spot on. Except I would like to add one thing. The ones that were hot and sexy were on their honeymoon with their WIVES. One wingman sat down at breakfast with two chicks and started talking and they asked him to please leave because he was ruining their honeymoon. We are going to do it again next year but like you said bring our own chicks.

As far as the ones out of Rio a doctor friend of mine who lives in Niteroi took one. She said they went up the coast as far as Bahia. It was a 3 day one as well and I think she said it was about 400 reais and beer and wine were free. She was ecstatic about it and said she had a very nice time.

Sperto
12-26-10, 08:53
Also, can someone break down the characteristics of women from the major cities (regions) of Brazil-I. E. Well educated / less educated, upper / lower class, light / morena / dark skin, indigenous facial features, wide / narrow hips, big / petite asses, large / small breasts, surgically / hormone enhanced, majority male / female, blonde / brunette, high / low income, large / low number of GDPs, etc.I heard about a lost village in the Amazon jungle where ALL the indigenous women are highly educated upperclass girls with huge natural tits, petite asses, brown skin and they are dirty rich.

Gullipoju
12-26-10, 14:39
I heard about a lost village in the Amazon jungle where ALL the indigenous women are highly educated upperclass girls with huge natural tits, petite asses, brown skin and they are dirty rich.Where can I find picture.

Sperto
12-26-10, 16:20
Where can I find picture.Here you go.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?875-Sierra-Leone&p=703276&viewfull=1#post703276

Bravo
12-26-10, 19:26
I did the one cruise and that was enough for me. My cousin tried to warn me before I went on the cruise, he said "Good looking women do not spend their own money to go on vacations! They get guys to take them on vacation, so don't expect to see any hot, single women on the cruise!" He was 100% correct! I was bored to tears and wished I had spent my 2 grand on tickets to Rio!

I am really interested to see if any members have gone on a cruise out of Rio. I know we have a number of members who live in brasil. I think it will be best to bring someone with me, rather than hope I hook up with something on the boat. I was tring to see if the cruise was worth it, or would i be better off spending my money on a weekend in buzios?

Mangera
12-26-10, 21:23
I did the one cruise and that was enough for me. My cousin tried to warn me before I went on the cruise, he said "Good looking women do not spend their own money to go on vacations! They get guys to take them on vacation, so don't expect to see any hot, single women on the cruise!" He was 100% correct! I was bored to tears and wished I had spent my 2 grand on tickets to Rio!

I am really interested to see if any members have gone on a cruise out of Rio. I know we have a number of members who live in brasil. I think it will be best to bring someone with me, rather than hope I hook up with something on the boat. I was tring to see if the cruise was worth it, or would I be better off spending my money on a weekend in buzios?

Just for future reference, from what I understand, there will be Cruise ships along the shore of Rio De Janeiro during the Olympics that will be used as Hotels. Chances are there will be single brazilian women as well as from other countries staying on board.

Rodeo9112
12-27-10, 23:25
Thanks for the knowledge dump Lorenzo. Your info was great! However, I wouldn't write off the level of knowledge some mongers have on the region and are willing to contribute. As I began my mongering in Colombia, I found a great thread on that board that described accurately (as I would discover in my own Master's thesis research later) the factors that feed into the different peoples in different regions of Colombia. Lots of background info was provided on history (both indigenous and Spanish) and mixing of the races as well as percieved / real elitism as well the vast inequality between the rich and the poor that plays into the whole P4P market. I'm sure there are a few experts out there. Hopefully they'll pipe up and educate the rest of us.
Thanks again for your response though.

Rodeo


The only cities I have mongered in besides Rio are Salvador and Curitiba; I had good experiences in both. Salvador is a majority black city, so the GDPs follow suit. Most are black or morena. The two girls I had were earthy and passionate, did everything I wanted. In Curitiba, on the other hand, most of the girls are of European descent, so you will find many who are fair-skinned and blonde, but also some morenas as well. I also had two girls there; service was adequate but not as enthusiastic as you would find in Rio or points north. Suggestion: if you call an escort service in Curitiba, make sure you specify exactly what services you expect. I actually got a girl there who wouldn't kiss-the only time this has ever happened to me in Brazil!

As for the rest of the information you are seeking, good luck. I doubt that most posters on this forum go into a mongering session looking for the type of information that pollsters or census-takers seek. They are there to fuck.

Carlos Primeros
12-28-10, 00:11
Hi Sperto. I think your jocke was a little bit mean:

Quote Originally Posted by Gullipoju View Post.

Where can I find picture.

Here you go.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...l=1#post703276

Carlos

Sperto
12-28-10, 09:15
... I've already solved it so GOL will hold the tickets until I arrive in Brazil... Regarding payment of domestic GOL tickets bought online. I want to correct myself. GOL not only extends the reservation until the arrival day in Brazil, they extend it even more, they extend it until the day you're taking the flight. Excellent service!

Their service center for international calls lies in Montevideo, Uruguay. They speak Spanish, lousy English and no Portuguese. When you call them it's a lottery, you can get one of the good helpful attendants who solves your problem quickly or you can get one the attendants with absolutely no trace of brain activity who will make you loose tour temper and risking you breaking your phone.

Sperto
01-04-11, 12:35
i don't think they used to deactivate the number at all. basically they used to wipe the credits after about 3 months, hence the number appeared dead, however when you added credits everything just came back alive again and worked just fine. i know people that visit rio like 2 x a year and have had the same number for like 5 years.i had a tim number that wasn't used in 9 months. last week i tried to activate it. didn't work, it was to late.

no worries, a new pre-pago tim chip only cost r$ 10. btw, tim's offer, calling other tim phones paying only 25 centavos / call is a really good deal.

p. s make sure to call tim and have them cancel the manchete tor****s that you will receive automatically. otherwise you'll loose a lot of your credits.

El Greco
01-04-11, 13:21
i had a tim number that wasn't used in 9 months. last week i tried to activate it. didn't work, it was to late.

no worries, a new pre-pago tim chip only cost r$ 10. btw, tim's offer, calling other tim phones paying only 25 centavos / call is a really good deal.

p. s make sure to call tim and have them cancel the manchete tor****s that you will receive automatically. otherwise you'll loose a lot of your credits. the rule was that, if not recharged, for the 4th month you could only receive calls and for the 5th only make emergency calls. thereafter the number was cancelled.

don't know if they changed it recently.

happy new year.

El Greco
01-04-11, 13:29
I never had a problem using an AMEX card.

There is also a chat on line option, also in English, that will solve all your questions. Depending on the time of the day there must be some waiting which is small if you choose the English language as I recall.

Sperto
01-04-11, 18:40
I never had a problem using an AMEX card.

There is also a chat on line option, also in English, that will solve all your questions. Depending on the time of the day there must be some waiting which is small if you choose the English language as I recall. Yes, Amex works just fine. The problem is when paying online with foreign VISA.

GOL online help can't really help solving payment problems. You have to call the GOL international number.

As mentioned GOL put my reservations on hold until I arrived in Brazil. Worked excellent.

Lorenzo
01-12-11, 02:51
Just ignore this post if you know this already, but if you live in North America and are a member of Aadvantage, American Airlines frequent flyer program, you may be interested to know that in the off-peak season, which they define as March 1-May 31 and August 16-November 30, you can get a round trip award ticket to Brazil and other southern South America countries for 40, 000 miles if you are willing to fly in economy class. This is the best deal I am aware of, and I don't know how long it will last. Most other airlines require 60, 000 miles. And seats at the 40, 000 mile level aren't that hard to get; I've already booked my seat for late March-early April (although I've decided to go to BA rather than Rio, due to the high cost of just about everything in Rio. I doubt if I'll be back to Rio unless the real plummets again. BA today is like Rio was in 2002. But I digress.)

Here's a link to AA's award chart, if you're interested: http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/free-ticket-award-chart.jsp

Rio Bob
01-13-11, 20:31
Just ignore this post if you know this already, but if you live in North America and are a member of Aadvantage, American Airlines frequent flyer program, you may be interested to know that in the off-peak season, which they define as March 1-May 31 and August 16-November 30, you can get a round trip award ticket to Brazil and other southern South America countries for 40, 000 miles if you are willing to fly in economy class. This is the best deal I am aware of, and I don't know how long it will last. Most other airlines require 60, 000 miles. And seats at the 40, 000 mile level aren't that hard to get; I've already booked my seat for late March-early April (although I've decided to go to BA rather than Rio, due to the high cost of just about everything in Rio. I doubt if I'll be back to Rio unless the real plummets again. BA today is like Rio was in 2002. But I digress.)

Here's a link to AA's award chart, if you're interested:

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/free-ticket-award-chart.jsp

Thank you for this valuable information, this is good news. Very recently American Airlines has become my favorite to Rio airline since they started their new flight from NY JFK to Rio direct non-stop. It used to be Continental when they had their Rio flight that left Newark at 10 PM and went thru Sao Paulo but that more or less has stopped and now you have to go thru Houston and leave much earlier during the day like 3:30 PM, so a day is wasted.

American's flight leaves at 9:25 PM so nothing is wasted and arrives Rio at 8:30 am next day.

I was on the American website about the same time as you but looking for an upgrade rather than purchasing a ticket and it was rather easy to get.

Too bad you're not stopping in Rio on that trip I would have bought you a beer.

I understand why you're not because it is expensive but BA has no beach so I wouldn't know what to do during the day. I would like to learn the Tango though and I have too much invested in time and money learning Portuguese as bad as it is.

So for now I'll stick to Rio and cut down on other things. Like staying in an apartment instead of hotels, like eating in more modest restaurants instead of the high end restaurants every night, like drinking more at home instead of in a Termas or bar/nightclub.

There are ways to cut your costs, I haven't really ventured out into the cheap casas in Centro yet or VM but I can still afford a 200 reais girl from Balcony or from Hotside daily.

Lorenzo
01-14-11, 05:34
Too bad you're not stopping in Rio on that trip I would have bought you a beer.

I understand why you're not because it is expensive but BA has no beach so I wouldn't know what to do during the day. I would like to learn the Tango though and I have too much invested in time and money learning Portuguese as bad as it is. I may be back to Rio, so I'll take a rain check on the beer.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone to switch from Rio to BA, just stating what I'm doing. What I do during the day is monger. The best places to go in BA are private apartments, which are open round the clock. So I fuck some girls during the day, then try to get some of them to moonlight with me at night, after they get off of course. That is a lot more difficult than in Rio, but I have had some success.

Mr Enternational
01-14-11, 07:14
I had a TIM number that wasn't used in 9 months. Last week I tried to activate it. Didn't work, it was to late.

No worries, a new pre-pago TIM chip only cost R$ 10. BTW, TIM's offer, calling other TIM phones paying only 25 centavos / call is a really good deal. I have had Claro in Rio for years. Last month I bought a TIM from the news stand in Sao Paulo for R$10 as you have said. Of course you need a CPF to activate it and mine has been expired for a couple of years. I went to the TIM store and the guy said all I could do was get a friend who has a CPF to activate it for me. I was going to get my SP namorada to do it for me but with so much fucking and so little time that went out the window. Of course another option is to apply for another CPF but that takes too damn long. Is there any other loophole someone may know?

Amerioca
01-14-11, 17:04
Wanted to add to posts made by SB and Lorenzo. AA is definitely pushing routes to JFK. I have found $800RT from LAX to GIG (via JFK).

Ricker
01-15-11, 04:12
I have had Claro in Rio for years. Last month I bought a TIM from the news stand in Sao Paulo for R$10 as you have said. Of course you need a CPF to activate it and mine has been expired for a couple of years. I went to the TIM store and the guy said all I could do was get a friend who has a CPF to activate it for me. I was going to get my SP namorada to do it for me but with so much fucking and so little time that went out the window. Of course another option is to apply for another CPF but that takes too damn long. Is there any other loophole someone may know?Yep, I offered the girl working at the news stand 10R to activate my SIM card for me, and she gladly did it.

Ryjerrob
01-20-11, 15:45
I have had Claro in Rio for years. Last month I bought a TIM from the news stand in Sao Paulo for R$10 as you have said. Of course you need a CPF to activate it and mine has been expired for a couple of years. I went to the TIM store and the guy said all I could do was get a friend who has a CPF to activate it for me. I was going to get my SP namorada to do it for me but with so much fucking and so little time that went out the window. Of course another option is to apply for another CPF but that takes too damn long. Is there any other loophole someone may know?I purchased a new phone and sim in a TIM store in Centro, and they activated it with my passport.

Exec Talent
01-24-11, 16:45
For those of you traveling within Brazil (and beyond) this site will give you cost comparisons on TAM, GOL, Webjet and Azul.

http://www.mundi.com.br/

It also has other travel planning features like listings for hotels and pousadas.

Member #4154
01-27-11, 05:32
I plan to travel for about 10 weeks all over south America. The focus of the trip is, of course mongering, but at the same time I want to experience the local culture and traditions. Needless to say, if I am mongering all the time I will quickly get tired of the scene. Moreover, I don't have funds to constantly participate in the hobby everyday for 10 weeks.

I really liked the Thailand experience before. There are plethora of opportunities to have fun with the girls. But after that you can participate in other kinds of activities. Normal massages, frolic around the beach etc etc. Moreover, if you get the girl for long time (LT) , she hangs out with you and you can do other "non-hobby" related stuff.

I want to do similar things when I travel all over south America. Of course, Brazil (Rio) is a given. I believe Buenos Aires is another such place. What are some of the other places I MUST visit for such an experience. Any beach towns? It would be great to experience the beaches and also hang out with some pretty girls. Also my Spanish language skills are minimal.

I really appreciate your advice in this regard.

Thanks

Lorenzo
01-27-11, 18:01
I plan to travel for about 10 weeks all over south America. The focus of the trip is, of course mongering, but at the same time I want to experience the local culture and traditions. Needless to say, if I am mongering all the time I will quickly get tired of the scene. Moreover, I don't have funds to constantly participate in the hobby everyday for 10 weeks.

I really liked the Thailand experience before. There are plethora of opportunities to have fun with the girls. But after that you can participate in other kinds of activities. Normal massages, frolic around the beach etc etc. Moreover, if you get the girl for long time (LT) , she hangs out with you and you can do other "non-hobby" related stuff.

I want to do similar things when I travel all over south America. Of course, Brazil (Rio) is a given. I believe Buenos Aires is another such place. What are some of the other places I MUST visit for such an experience. Any beach towns? It would be great to experience the beaches and also hang out with some pretty girls. Also my Spanish language skills are minimal.

I really appreciate your advice in this regard.

ThanksYou are doing exactly what I did in 2006, except that my trip was 60 days, the limit of my airpass. I visited all 10 Latin countries in South America (I visited the other 3, Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana 2 years later). On my 2006 trip I also visited the Galapagos Islands and Easter Island, so it wasn't exclusively a mongering trip. However, I mongered whenever I could. I posted a report everywhere I mongered, so if you want to take the trouble you can look for my reports at that time.

Please bear in mind that what I am about to say is over 4 years old, but I imagine very little has changed except prices. You are right that Rio and BA are essentials and should not be missed. There is plenty of pussy in Colombia, but if your time is limited I suggest focusing on Cartagena. Quito was a pleasant surprise. I went to what was supposedly the most upscale brothel in the city and it was only US$20 per half hour. An even more pleasant surprise was Paraguay (yes, Paraguay!). I went to a brothel in Asucion which had a bevy of gorgeous, and somewhat innocent, girls and the tariff was only US$20 for a full hour. Chile sucks for mongering, but you should be able to find something in Santiago. I didn't monger in Peru because I was sick, but I think Lima should rock. Bolivia has ultra cheap pussy, but the girls are all skanks, unless you go for the fugly Indian looking types. I had a good experience in Montevideo as well. In Caracas I used an escort service and had a good experience; Caracas is a very dangerous city.

The thing to watch out for is gringo pricing. Some of the brothels, especially in Uruguay, will quote a much hgher price for gringos. If you can, best have a local call and get a price, then when you get there you can tell them that this is the price you were quoted over the phone (unless your Spanish is good enough to pass as a native speaker).

Have a graet trip and be sure to post reports of all your experiences. Feel free to PM me if you want more detailed information.

Lorenzo

Bigcebu
01-27-11, 21:00
I really liked the Thailand experience before. There are plethora of opportunities to have fun with the girls. But after that you can participate in other kinds of activities. Normal massages, frolic around the beach etc etc. Moreover, if you get the girl for long time (LT) , she hangs out with you and you can do other "non-hobby" related stuff.That is a problem in South America. TDLN is available but not as chap as in Asia.

Member #4154
01-28-11, 04:43
Lorenzo, thanks a lot for the information. I will certainly PM you for more information.

My ideal mongering is something like this. I want to hit a night-club which is totally hopping with great music and drinks. This night club should have semi-pros, pros and FL. And tonnes of them. I should just be able to look around soak the scene, feel horny and enjoy. I would hit on a few of them and which ever suits my fancy I would take back to my room. This way my adventure lasts the whole night and then I can cap it with a good night fuck. If the girl stays back then it will one more good fuck in the morning before I send her off.

I get cannot get such an experience in a brothel where it is more of a wham bham thank you madam.

What places in South or Central america offer such an experience. In which case I will make sure to spend a week (including a weekend).

Again I really appreciate your input. I will be sure to post my experiences.

Lorenzo
01-28-11, 05:20
Lorenzo, thanks a lot for the information. I will certainly PM you for more information.

My ideal mongering is something like this. I want to hit a night-club which is totally hopping with great music and drinks. This night club should have semi-pros, pros and FL. And tonnes of them. I should just be able to look around soak the scene, feel horny and enjoy. I would hit on a few of them and which ever suits my fancy I would take back to my room. This way my adventure lasts the whole night and then I can cap it with a good night fuck. If the girl stays back then it will one more good fuck in the morning before I send her off.

I get cannot get such an experience in a brothel where it is more of a wham bham thank you madam.

What places in South or Central america offer such an experience. In which case I will make sure to spend a week (including a weekend).

Again I really appreciate your input. I will be sure to post my experiences. I really can't help you there, because on my trip I limited myself to brothels and escort services, primarily because of time constraints. But there are plenty of places such as you describe in Rio and BA; just peruse the forum, and Argentina Private as well, a separate forum for Argentina. There are probably such bars everywhere in SA; you just have to do your homework. ISG and AP are invaluable for planning a mongering trip. I had very little work to do for myself, thanks to the pioneers who went before me.

Euro100
01-28-11, 14:21
My ideal mongering is something like this. I want to hit a night-club which is totally hopping with great music and drinks. This night club should have semi-pros, pros and FL. And tonnes of them. I should just be able to look around soak the scene, feel horny and enjoy. I would hit on a few of them and which ever suits my fancy I would take back to my room. This way my adventure lasts the whole night and then I can cap it with a good night fuck. If the girl stays back then it will one more good fuck in the morning before I send her off.Help, the venerable disco at the Copacabana beach in Rio, would have been exactly What you want. I did you itinerary of an ideal mongering experience many times at that place. Sadly, now it is just a fenced-off hole in the ground. .

There are other discos like this around in Rio, but a bit harder to get to. I fondly remember the Plataforma disco in Leblon, right next to the famous samba show. I have not been there in almost a decade, and heard the samba show is still going strong, but the disco gave way to an upscale wine bar and restaurant now.

The reason I do not hunt in these places any more is that termas in Rio are much more attractive to me. Same great music and great drinks. But no amateurs or FL; so you are not prone to chase after wrong targets. All of the girls are pros and wear skimpy bikinis. In particular 4*4 (quatro por quatro) rocks, and you can easily find 50 to 80 willing and attractive girls there. I also like L'uomo, but it is less than half the size. In all termas you can drink and chat with a girl all evening and then bang her. You can watch the occasional strip show, too. And if you develop a bit of chemistry with the girl, you can pull her for after-hour action in your hotel. I have done many of these programs, in particular pulling girls from L'uomo. More than half of the time, BTW, I have had these girls for free in my hotel. .

Read Bubba's Rio guide and learn all about termas! http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2191-Bubba-Boy-s-Rio-Guide&p=1092906#post1092906

Bigcebu
01-28-11, 23:05
But there are plenty of places such as you describe in Rio and BAName me one freelancer disco in BA? I doubt that it exists and if it will be very expensive.

Brazil Specialist
01-29-11, 01:22
There are other discos like this around in Rio, but a bit harder to get to. I fondly remember the Plataforma disco in Leblon, right next to the famous samba show. I have not been there in almost a decade, and heard the samba show is still going strong, but the disco gave way to an upscale wine bar and restaurant now.

The reason I do not hunt in these places any more is that termas in Rio are much more attractive to me. Same great music and great drinks. But no amateurs or FL; so you are not prone to chase after wrong targets. All of the girls are pros and wear skimpy bikinis. In particular 4*4 (quatro por quatro) rocks, and you can easily find 50 to 80 willing and attractive girls there. I also like L'uomo, but it is less than half the size. In all termas you can drink and chat with a girl all evening and then bang her. You can watch the occasional strip show, too. And if you develop a bit of chemistry with the girl, you can pull her for after-hour action in your hotel. I have done many of these programs, in particular pulling girls from L'uomo. More than half of the time, BTW, I have had these girls for free in my hotel. .

Read Bubba's Rio guide and learn all about termas!

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2191-Bubba-Boy-s-Rio-Guide&p=1092906#post1092906The other Rio guide is Bwana Dik's guide. It should be on this site, I tried to get him signed up here in exchange for posting his guide, but maybe it did not work out.

What other discos are here to get pros? Probably the strip clubs in the Lido area (near Princesa Isabel). Ciccolina, Sensoo, Barbarella. If you want to splurge and don't mind paying lots of money, go to Barbarella.

I personally love cheap brothels and spend all DAY there. Like 10 am to 6 pm.

Now, Euro100, please tell your secret how you pull free termas girls. Please describe your social skills, as well as age, looks, physical shape, race, eye color (the brothers get always pissed when I say that blonde and blue eyed is a big plus, but the brothers usually have more then enough game to catch the fish).

Brazil Specialist
01-29-11, 01:38
I purchased a new phone and sim in a TIM store in Centro, and they activated it with my passport.Right. If you don't want trouble, insist on getting the chip activated right in the store. If it a small reseller store, it is worth offering a tip for that. But you can probably get it for free.

I think it is not nice to use a girl's CPF, she will be responsible for whatever shit will happen with your card in case it gets stolen, lost, etc.


For those of you traveling within Brazil (and beyond) this site will give you cost comparisons on TAM, GOL, Webjet and Azul.

http://www.mundi.com.br/

It also has other travel planning features like listings for hotels and pousadas. Interesting. Did not know that one. Gave it a test spin and it looked good.


I plan to travel for about 10 weeks all over south America. The focus of the trip is, of course mongering, but at the same time I want to experience the local culture and traditions. Needless to say, if I am mongering all the time I will quickly get tired of the scene. Moreover, I don't have funds to constantly participate in the hobby everyday for 10 weeks.

I really liked the Thailand experience before. There are plethora of opportunities to have fun with the girls. But after that you can participate in other kinds of activities. Normal massages, frolic around the beach etc etc. Moreover, if you get the girl for long time (LT) , she hangs out with you and you can do other "non-hobby" related stuff.

I want to do similar things when I travel all over south America. Of course, Brazil (Rio) is a given. I believe Buenos Aires is another such place. What are some of the other places I MUST visit for such an experience. Any beach towns? It would be great to experience the beaches and also hang out with some pretty girls. Also my Spanish language skills are minimal.

I really appreciate your advice in this regard.

ThanksConsider staying with me when in Rio. I usually can help out to get fun for good money.

But no way to get me out at night, I sleep at night. I love to spend all DAY at dirt cheap brothels. Will go tomorrow from 10 a to 6 pm. As it was said, Rio is short time sex country, long time is unusual and normally not well priced. But it can be found. But I would rather have 8 short times then 1 long time.


That is a problem in South America. TDLN is available but not as chap as in Asia.Exactly. Are you a Cebu traveller? Great place if you know where to go.

Member #4154
01-29-11, 02:33
Consider staying with me when in Rio. I usually can help out to get fun for good money.

But no way to get me out at night, I sleep at night. I love to spend all DAY at dirt cheap brothels. Will go tomorrow from 10 a to 6 pm. As it was said, Rio is short time sex country, long time is unusual and normally not well priced. But it can be found. But I would rather have 8 short times then 1 long time.

Exactly. Are you a Cebu traveller? Great place if you know where to go. Brazil-Specialist. Thanks a lot for your offer. I would certainly take it provided you are affordable.

I am sure we can work something out. Maybe you can show me the ropes to some of the places.

Lorenzo
01-29-11, 08:09
Name me one freelancer disco in BA? I doubt that it exists and if it will be very expensive.I don't know from experience since that isn't my scene; in BA I go to private apartments. However, there seem to be dozens, if not hundreds, listed on Argentina Private. Check for yourself: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/

Prosal
01-29-11, 13:33
I want to hit a night-club which is totally hopping with great music and drinks. This night club should have semi-pros, pros and FL. And tonnes of them. I should just be able to look around soak the scene, feel horny and enjoy. I would hit on a few of them and which ever suits my fancy I would take back to my room. This way my adventure lasts the whole night and then I can cap it with a good night fuck.Love Story in Sao Paulo. Undoubtedly the best and wildest pick-up disco (with the hottest white-skinned girls) this side of the Atlantic. Beware though, it's not for "early-to-bed" guys, it's a morgue until before 3am, and then it rocks till 7am, later on weekends.

Member #4154
01-29-11, 17:28
Love Story in Sao Paulo. Undoubtedly the best and wildest pick-up disco (with the hottest white-skinned girls) this side of the Atlantic. Beware though, it's not for "early-to-bed" guys, it's a morgue until before 3am, and then it rocks till 7am, later on weekends.Prosal, thanks for the knowledge. This is the kind of information I was looking on this forum. Of course, if all else fails I can always fall back on the pros. But I like the hunt. Now I guess my only drawback is language.

Mr Enternational
01-29-11, 19:58
I swear I learn something new everyday. Today I learned that it was the Brazilian government that started the whole sex tourism thing down there. In the February issue of Robb Report there is an article,"Beyond Rio" which discusses luxury tourism around the country. The most interesting excerpt:

During the 1970s, when a military junta ruled the country, the government neglected tourism, labeling it as elitist."When they finally decided to promote tourism as a way of generating revenue, they didn't promote the arts, our museums, our cuisine, or our culture," Luiz Augusto, president of Rio's State Syndicate of Tourist Guides, told me while I was visiting the city. The main reason for coming to Rio was sex. Augusto said,"The ads always showed a girl posed seductively in a tanga and saying, 'Come see me in Rio. '"

Bigcebu
01-29-11, 19:59
I don't know from experience since that isn't my scene; in BA I go to private apartments. However, there seem to be dozens, if not hundreds, listed on Argentina Private. Check for yourself:

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/There are only private apartments, brothels and escorts in Argentinia. Even Europe is better than that.

There is NO freelancer disco in the whole entire country.

It sucks for mongering.

Ricker
01-30-11, 19:08
. If you don't want trouble, insist on getting the chip activated right in the store. If it a small reseller store, it is worth offering a tip for that. But you can probably get it for free.

I think it is not nice to use a girl's CPF, she will be responsible for whatever shit will happen with your card in case it gets stolen, lost, etc. What kind of shit can happen with a stolen, lost, etc sim card?

Responsible for what?

I was told at theTIM store that the cards are registered only so the registered owner can cancel or re-use the number in case of lost or stolen or damaged cards.

I asked if it could cause problems for someone to register a sim card for me and they said no, just that I wouldn't be able to do anything official with the sim card, only the registered owner.

Big deal.

Beach Star
01-30-11, 20:08
I swear I learn something new everyday. Today I learned that it was the Brazilian government that started the whole sex tourism thing down there. In the February issue of Robb Report there is an article,"Beyond Rio" which discusses luxury tourism around the country. The most interesting excerpt:

During the 1970s, when a military junta ruled the country, the government neglected tourism, labeling it as elitist."When they finally decided to promote tourism as a way of generating revenue, they didn't promote the arts, our museums, our cuisine, or our culture," Luiz Augusto, president of Rio's State Syndicate of Tourist Guides, told me while I was visiting the city. The main reason for coming to Rio was sex. Augusto said,"The ads always showed a girl posed seductively in a tanga and saying, 'Come see me in Rio. '"The current government will take any opportunity to criticise the military government of the past. Noted that your quote comes from a trade unionist. Ads for tourism in Rio always have shown pictures of hot girls. And still do. It is a leap from that to conclude the military government created sex tourism.

Ryjerrob
01-30-11, 20:54
What kind of shit can happen with a stolen, lost, etc sim card?

Responsible for what?

I was told at theTIM store that the cards are registered only so the registered owner can cancel or re-use the number in case of lost or stolen or damaged cards.

I asked if it could cause problems for someone to register a sim card for me and they said no, just that I wouldn't be able to do anything official with the sim card, only the registered owner.

Big deal. Why wouldn't a person get their own sim card registered themselves. If you go to a retail store, they will do it with a passport. Still, maybe I'm missing something here.

Bubba Boy
01-30-11, 23:06
What kind of shit can happen with a stolen, lost, etc sim card?

Responsible for what?

I was told at theTIM store that the cards are registered only so the registered owner can cancel or re-use the number in case of lost or stolen or damaged cards.

I asked if it could cause problems for someone to register a sim card for me and they said no, just that I wouldn't be able to do anything official with the sim card, only the registered owner.

Big deal. Can anyone say "Laranja", there is no way anyone would want their name associated with anything that could potential cause an issue. If the chip gets used for any illegal purpose, the registered owner is going to gets all sorts of unwanted attention from the Federal Police. In Brazil, anyone that lends their name to something they don't use and it goes bad is called a "laranja", basically a dumb fuck. There has been many instances where people have let their names be the registeree of chips and the said chip has then used for drug dealing or fraud or whatever. The Federal Police then blacklists the name, that means the name cannot do anything. Can't open a bank account, can't even get a passport, until they clear their name with the Feds. UGLY STUFF

Ricker
01-31-11, 02:39
Can anyone say "Laranja", there is no way anyone would want their name associated with anything that could potential cause an issue. If the chip gets used for any illegal purpose, the registered owner is going to gets all sorts of unwanted attention from the Federal Police. In Brazil, anyone that lends their name to something they don't use and it goes bad is called a "laranja", basically a dumb fuck. There has been many instances where people have let their names be the registeree of chips and the said chip has then used for drug dealing or fraud or whatever. The Federal Police then blacklists the name, that means the name cannot do anything. Can't open a bank account, can't even get a passport, until they clear their name with the Feds. UGLY STUFFWell that makes sense then.

In that case, I wouldn't register a sim card for someone either unless I knew and trusted them.

Ricker
01-31-11, 14:29
Well that makes sense then.

In that case, I wouldn't register a sim card for someone either unless I knew and trusted them. The odd thing is though, if it can cause such a problem for someone, I wonder why I've never had a problem getting someone to "cadastar" or register a sim card for me, whether it be a friend or a person that works in the news stand selling it to me or even a garota I meet, and I have cards from TIM, Oi, Vivo and Claro, and buy new ones occassionally when I want a new number.

Bubba Boy
01-31-11, 17:03
The odd thing is though, if it can cause such a problem for someone, I wonder why I've never had a problem getting someone to "cadastar" or register a sim card for me, whether it be a friend or a person that works in the news stand selling it to me or even a garota I meet, and I have cards from TIM, Oi, Vivo and Claro, and buy new ones occassionally when I want a new number.You used to be able to enter any old CPF and it would work. I believe the newstands still do it this way.

Poucolouco
02-01-11, 02:15
You used to be able to enter any old CPF and it would work. I believe the newstands still do it this way.That's the way it works. TIM's verification system doesn't match your name to the CPF that you provide. Their computer system just checks to see if it is a valid CPF. They could cross check the name but they are not that intrusive. If you purchase a phone with a SIM that the store doesn't validate, the first time you try to use the phone you will be asked by a recorded operator to enter your CPF. Any valid CPF will work. A simple link to the Fazenda data base gives a verification code.

You can try it with your own CPF at this site: http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/Aplicacoes/ATCTA/cpf/ConsultaPublica.asp

Mr Enternational
02-01-11, 05:58
You used to be able to enter any old CPF and it would work. I believe the newstands still do it this way.The TIM guy was entering my old CPF into the computer but since it had expired it was coming back as invalid so no dice.

Euro100
02-01-11, 15:30
The other Rio guide is Bwana Dik's guide. It should be on this site, I tried to get him signed up here in exchange for posting his guide, but maybe it did not work out.

What other discos are here to get pros? Probably the strip clubs in the Lido area (near Princesa Isabel). Ciccolina, Sensoo, Barbarella. If you want to splurge and don't mind paying lots of money, go to Barbarella.

I personally love cheap brothels and spend all DAY there. Like 10 am to 6 pm.

Now, Euro100, please tell your secret how you pull free termas girls. Please describe your social skills, as well as age, looks, physical shape, race, eye color (the brothers get always pissed when I say that blonde and blue eyed is a big plus, but the brothers usually have more then enough game to catch the fish). I expect that I get more PMs asking the same question, now that I have posted more Rio reports. So I looked up my old posts and found that I have previously posted some notes on getting freebies form terma girls:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=941595&viewfull=1#post941595

Totos
02-06-11, 15:31
I expect that I get more PMs asking the same question, now that I have posted more Rio reports. So I looked up my old posts and found that I have previously posted some notes on getting freebies form terma girls:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=941595&viewfull=1#post941595Thanks and congratulations to Euro100 for this great post. I had a good laugh when I read it.

I am pretty sure you described the right way to have good times in Rio. A bit cynical maybe but that's part of the game!

I have some questions for you if you don't mind :

Why did you say that it is difficult to have different girls at the same time? Because the girls from Termas know each others? I already read about that. I did not had this feeling when I was there. I even had some questions from a girl in Centaurus about L'Uomo (she did not know it very well).

How do you stay in touch with them during your stay? Do you have a brasilian SIM?

Do you tell them how long you stay especially if you stay no long (only few days)? Maybe they prefer stay with a guy who is in Rio for a long period or regularly there?

I have just something in mind now. I imagine that you must had already some difficult departures from Rio?

Euro100
02-07-11, 16:59
Thanks and congratulations to Euro100 for this great post. I had a good laugh when I read it.

I am pretty sure you described the right way to have good times in Rio. A bit cynical maybe but that's part of the game!

I have some questions for you if you don't mind :

Why did you say that it is difficult to have different girls at the same time? Because the girls from Termas know each others? I already read about that. I did not had this feeling when I was there. I even had some questions from a girl in Centaurus about L'Uomo (she did not know it very well).

How do you stay in touch with them during your stay? Do you have a brasilian SIM?

Do you tell them how long you stay especially if you stay no long (only few days)? Maybe they prefer stay with a guy who is in Rio for a long period or regularly there?

I have just something in mind now. I imagine that you must had already some difficult departures from Rio? Yes, one could have several longer-term relationships with different girls at the same time and get away with it. But in my mind this is a) playing with fire, and be) more than I could handle. I have my hands full with one at a time.

I don't use a cell phone in Brazil at all. I call them, and that's a big advantage. Sometimes this also bites me, because here and there I lose connection with a girl that I really wanted to maintain.

"How long do you stay?" I would advise you to always at least answer with "one more week", even if you depart the next morning.

Have I had difficult times leaving Rio? Absolutely! But, if I can avoid it at all, I don't say good-bye. Safado. What can I say?

HungryStud101
03-06-11, 14:16
Thinking of taking your wife or girl friend on a trip to Brasil?

As I was boarding the flight to Brasil I over heard a conversation between two male passengers. The first man was talking about taking his girl friend on the trip. The second man looked to the first and asked,"Do you bring meat when you go to the butcher shop?" The first man said "What?" The second man repeated himself."Do you bring meat when you go to the butcher shop?" The first man stopped to think for a moment and answered with a resounding "No!" The second man asked "Than why do you want to bring your girl friend to Brasil?"

She better be a freak that likes to join in or leave her home.

Liveheree
03-07-11, 20:59
I got a layover of about 8 hours tomorrow in Rio de Janeiro before my flight back to the states. Is there any way you could have some fun during the day? Are there lockers where you can leave your stuff in the airport without getting them stolen? Exactly how terrible will the traffic be if I want to go to one of the termas in centro?

Thanks,

Matt

HungryStud101
03-07-11, 23:59
I got a layover of about 8 hours tomorrow in Rio de Janeiro before my flight back to the states. Is there any way you could have some fun during the day? Are there lockers where you can leave your stuff in the airport without getting them stolen? Exactly how terrible will the traffic be if I want to go to one of the termas in centro?

Thanks,

MattLets see. You have an 8 hour layover. Hail a taxi at the airport that can take you to Centro or Cobacabana. It is about a 90R cab ride to Cobacabana and will take you about an hour and you will have to get back about 2 hours before your international flight. You could spend 4 hours in the Termas? This will work. Centro is closer. I would give the cabbie the address that you want to go to. Taxi drivers do not always know where all the Termas's are. Either this or they do not understand my accent. Every Taxi driver seems to know where Centaurus is.

I don't know about the lockers. Won't the airlines handle your checked bags for you? If you are switching airlines can't you recheck your bags? Take a small thin carry on bag that you can stuff in your locker at the Termas. This could work.

Liveheree
03-08-11, 00:07
Lets see. You have an 8 hour layover. Hail a taxi at the airport that can take you to Centro or Cobacabana. It is about a 90R cab ride to Cobacabana and will take you about an hour and you will have to get back about 2 hours before your international flight. You could spend 4 hours in the Termas? This will work. Centro is closer. I would give the cabbie the address that you want to go to. Taxi drivers do not always know where all the Termas's are. Either this or they do not understand my accent. Every Taxi driver seems to know where Centaurus is.

I don't know about the lockers. Won't the airlines handle your checked bags for you? If you are switching airlines can't you recheck your bags? Take a small thin carry on bag that you can stuff in your locker at the Termas. This could work.Cool, I wasn't sure about the time frame since I haven't been there in a while. I thought it might take more than an hour now with Carnival and all. The airline will handle my checked baggage, but I usually have a carry-on with my laptop. I can't check it in, but I would rather not bring it with me since if I got it stolen it would be a major hassle. I guess I will bring it anyway.

I think I might to to Centaurus since I'm only there for such a short period. I presume they will be quite busy during Carnival?

Poucolouco
03-08-11, 00:29
Are there lockers where you can leave your stuff in the airport without getting them stolen? Exactly how terrible will the traffic be if I want to go to one of the termas in centro?

Thanks,

MattBaggage check is operated by MALEX. It is on the arrivals level of Terminal 1. There has been a lot of remodelling recently and this service may have been relocated. When you arrive just ask someone for the "guarda volumes." Traffic will depend on the hour that you arrive and depart. It is typical of any big city. Centro is less than a half hour by taxi.

Exec Talent
03-08-11, 00:58
Baggage check is operated by MALEX. It is on the arrivals level of Terminal 1. There has been a lot of remodelling recently and this service may have been relocated. When you arrive just ask someone for the "guarda volumes." Traffic will depend on the hour that you arrive and depart. It is typical of any big city. Centro is less than a half hour by taxi.Centro is closed for Carnaval.

I was at both Monte Carlo and L'uomo today and they were open.

Mr Enternational
03-08-11, 01:11
Thinking of taking your wife or girl friend on a trip to Brasil?My first time in Brazil me and my wife went together...and I have been divorced ever since! Although I had no idea of the mongering scene I still left her the morning we got back. I will never forget being in the airport in Salvador and not being able to take my eyes off of a girl who was working in one of the shops.

Chercheur
03-08-11, 03:31
I had a hard time explaining why it was much better that she does not come with me to Rio.

Now she does not know wether she sould believe me or not; I hope she prefers to believe me!

In any case I would never ever have let her come with me to Brasil.

Better divorce before than after Rio!

Member #3439
03-08-11, 08:53
I had a hard time explaining why it was much better that she does not come with me to Rio.

Now she does not know wether she sould believe me or not; I hope she prefers to believe me!

In any case I would never ever have let her come with me to Brasil.

Better divorce before than after Rio! How about these:

1) Crime. She could get hurt.
2) The water is no good, there is risk of getting sick.
3) You are travelling there for work
4) You are checking it out, if it is a romantic place then you will take her the next time (but of course you won't!)


My first time in Brazil me and my wife went together...and I have been divorced ever since! Although I had no idea of the mongering scene I still left her the morning we got back. I will never forget being in the airport in Salvador and not being able to take my eyes off of a girl who was working in one of the shops.

Now that has to be the most expensive trip ever!

My mongering mentor gave me the following, back when I started:
Rule 1) Never enter a mongering destination with a woman
Rule 2) Never leave a mongering destination with a woman.
Rule 3) Never give a woman your real name (paternity cases, they can cross oceans!)
Rule 4) Never tell anyone at home that you at a mongering destination, especially not one like Rio or Bangkok that has a reputation for prostitution and sex tourism.
Rule 5) If it's known that you were at a mongering destination, say it was for work, nature tourism that bores people, or even a religious pilgrimage! No one, except a monger, respects a monger.

HelpRules
03-08-11, 13:50
Mr E,

How long were you married before you dumped your wife. Let me guess. You thought you would be happy having sex with the same girl for life and 6 months in realized you made a huge mistake? What excuse did you give your wife when she asked why you were dumping her AFTER a vacation!

Thats funny.

Lorenzo
03-08-11, 18:27
You thought you would be happy having sex with the same girl for life and 6 months in realized you made a huge mistake?Anyone remember the comedian Mort Sahl? He once said that before he gets married, a guy says "oh boy, I'm going to get laid tonight!" After he's been married a while, a guy says "oh shit, I got to get laid tonight!"

True, very true.

Pyjama
03-08-11, 18:37
Thinking of taking your wife or girl friend on a trip to Brasil?

She better be a freak that likes to join in or leave her home. And what if the wife is Brazilian herself, and she knows about all this puteria?

HungryStud101
03-09-11, 05:01
How about these:

1) Crime. She could get hurt.

2) The water is no good, there is risk of getting sick.

3) You are travelling there for work.

4) You are checking it out, if it is a romantic place then you will take her the next time (but of course you won't!). These are good. MY S. O. Wants to come with me and I am using the crime argument. I will spend all my money on the Termas girls and say I was mugged. I really would like to take her to the Jesus and Sugarloaf. I am always wondering what these things look like up close. I am studying the language on line. Hunny, when I get a handle on Porto I will take you and we will be safe.


My mongering mentor gave me the following, back when I started:

Rule 1) Never enter a mongering destination with a woman

Rule 2) Never leave a mongering destination with a woman.

Rule 3) Never give a woman your real name (paternity cases, they can cross oceans!)

Rule 4) Never tell anyone at home that you at a mongering destination, especially not one like Rio or Bangkok that has a reputation for prostitution and sex tourism.

Rule 5) If it's known that you were at a mongering destination, say it was for work, nature tourism that bores people, or even a religious pilgrimage! No one, except a monger, respects a monger. I boss took me Thailand and I took him into a bar and picked a girl out for him. He knoes I hobby and I know he is a doper so I think we are good but I wish I never would have told him. He gets pissed when he sees an extra couple days in some place like Brazil or Germany or Montreal and wants to be there. He really gets jealous and thinks the worst thing when I am traveling. The reality is that it is 90% work and I occaisionally relax with a hooker. DO NOT TELL ANYONE! Tell this board and thats it!

HungryStud101
03-09-11, 05:02
And what if the wife is Brazilian herself, and she knows about all this puteria?Fuck I don't know. Is she cool about it and willing to share?

Bubba Boy
03-09-11, 06:50
Anyone remember the comedian Mort Sahl? He once said that before he gets married, a guy says "oh boy, I'm going to get laid tonight!" After he's been married a while, a guy says "oh shit, I got to get laid tonight!"

True, very true. Whats the difference between your job and your wife after 10 years. After 10 years your job still sucks!

Mr Enternational
03-09-11, 07:33
Mr E,

How long were you married before you dumped your wife. Let me guess. You thought you would be happy having sex with the same girl for life and 6 months in realized you made a huge mistake? What excuse did you give your wife when she asked why you were dumping her AFTER a vacation! We were married two years and went to Brazil for our anniversary vacation. The morning we got back I just said I didn't want to be married anymore and left. She had a house before we got married so she always paid the mortgage and I paid the utilities. Everything else was done separate. All of our personal stuff we used our own money for. I asked her how she wanted to divide the furniture, she told me, and I put it in the divorce paperwork. Then she didn't want to go by that and got a lawyer. When we went to court the judge gave us 2 minutes each to say why we should have what items we wanted. The judge saw she was just trying to be bitter and greedy and gave me everything except 1 sofa and the washing machine. The judge did make me pay $750, half her lawyer fees. We did not have any kids together. We are still good friends.

Pyjama
03-09-11, 10:23
Fuck I don't know. Is she cool about it and willing to share?I think she'd join in for a threesome, not sure if I had sex with a puta all on my own. Risky trying out.

HelpRules
03-09-11, 14:49
Mr E, how long after you were married did you realize you made a mistake? It took 2 years for you to leave her, but were you wanting to leave for most of the marriage. I dated this one girl for a year, which is the longest for me, and I was having sex with her one night, and just wanted to stop in the middle of it because I was so bored. I don't know how guys have sex with their wives for 20 years. I seems IMPOSSIBLE to me.

Golfinho
03-09-11, 21:50
We were married two years and went to Brazil for our anniversary vacation. The morning we got back I just said I didn't want to be married anymore and left. She had a house before we got married so she always paid the mortgage and I paid the utilities. Everything else was done separate. All of our personal stuff we used our own money for. I asked her how she wanted to divide the furniture, she told me, and I put it in the divorce paperwork. Then she didn't want to go by that and got a lawyer. When we went to court the judge gave us 2 minutes each to say why we should have what items we wanted. The judge saw she was just trying to be bitter and greedy and gave me everything except 1 sofa and the washing machine. The judge did make me pay $750, half her lawyer fees. We did not have any kids together. We are still good friends.I wouldn't have believed there are people who live like that. Best lowlife marriage and divorce story I ever heard. Thanks for sharing.

HungryStud101
03-10-11, 00:25
I wouldn't have believed there are people who live like that. Best lowlife marriage and divorce story I ever heard. Thanks for sharing.What is so low life about it? Mr. Entertainment returned from Brazil and they got divorced. End of story.

Member #3439
03-10-11, 06:43
I boss took me Thailand and I took him into a bar and picked a girl out for him. He knoes I hobby and I know he is a doper so I think we are good but I wish I never would have told him. He gets pissed when he sees an extra couple days in some place like Brazil or Germany or Montreal and wants to be there. He really gets jealous and thinks the worst thing when I am traveling. The reality is that it is 90% work and I occaisionally relax with a hooker. DO NOT TELL ANYONE! Tell this board and thats it!When I get back from Rio or place x, the official story is always that it sucked, and I point out the bad parts of the trip. However, the really well-traveled people undoubtedly know what's going on, because I routinely stay over in places like that. But they can't say anything unless I open a dialogue on that subject, because an accusation would beyond inappropriate! So I don't pretend to be vanilla, but don't advertise or brag about my adventures either. It's just not a topic for discussion with anyone outside the hobby. So I never introduce a coworker to mongering or even allude to the fact that it exists. If anyone is with me, I go monger after they've retired for the night. Then no one gives me crap about morals, questions why I do week long layovers at my own expense in third world places, or wants to go in my place the next time! If I bragged to people outside this board, they wouldn't believe me anyway and would just see me as a perv. Some of the stuff that happens in our hobby is surreal. I wouldn't even believe some of the better posts here if I hadn't experienced similar things myself. Most of us screw more girls in a single trip than most guys screw in a lifetime, and these girls are usually way better looking and performing than the common girl. This is why guys become jealous and I can't say that I blame them.


Ignorance is bliss for your coworkers. Better that they don't know. Send them some news stories about some of the absurd violence in Rio, like the picture from O Globo last year of the girl walking past the dead body of favelado gangster guy that was thrown in the shopping cart, or the hostage situation at the hotel in Copa. That'll do it.
At least then they don't have to worry about getting tangled up with putas, spending too much money, health risks, mongering withdrawl after returns home, catching hell from trolls on ISG even after they've posted days of detailed reports with directions, times, girls names, prices and pictures...just because they ate cu or barebacked, or whatever. I'm always torn about whether introducing someone to mongering is the best or worst thing you can do to them. Guys become junkies on the first time. The guy who introduced me to mongering doesn't get to travel anymore. He is a good friend, but he burns with jealousy everytime I go somewhere. I quit discussing these things with him a long time ago, because it's a sore spot. At some point, when you monger enough you have to come out of the monger's closet for one reason or another, and let your S.O. know, and then you find what you are made of and either get divorce or acceptance of your philandering. The latter is the only positive thing that come from it, except of course the wonderful banging and things to think about when you are old and drooling in your oatmeal (copyright, some other Rio thread guy who invented and is about to call me for using that phrase) . So you are 100% right. Telling people about adventures in Rio is a very bad idea and there is not benefit to talking about it offline.

Prosal
03-10-11, 10:54
Ignorance is bliss for your coworkers. Better that they don't know. Send them some news stories about some of the absurd violence in Rio, like the picture from O Globo last year of the girl walking past the dead body of favelado gangster guy that was thrown in the shopping cart, or the hostage situation at the hotel in Copa. That'll do it.Just to put things in perspective. Brasil is by no means an untapped destination. You guys are not some kind of pionneer elite mongers. According to the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO) about 7. 2 millions inbound tourists have visited Brasil in 2008, which is an average of almost 20 000 arrivals / day (about the equivalent of 55 Boeing 767 full packed). Furthermore Brasilian authorities have recently made of tourism one of their top-ten priorities by launching the second phase of the "Aquarela Plan" (O Plano Aquarela, a marketing plan to increase the flow of tourists to Brasil) , which began in 2006, the goal being to double inbound tourism before 2015 and to place Brasil, now 33th, in the top-15 world's top tourism destinations.

Wake up. Brasil is already a mass-tourism (and mass sex-tourism) destination.

Exec Talent
03-10-11, 20:38
Just to put things in perspective. Brasil is by no means an untapped destination. You guys are not some kind of pionneer elite mongers. According to the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO) about 7. 2 millions inbound tourists have visited Brasil in 2008, which is an average of almost 20 000 arrivals / day (about the equivalent of 55 Boeing 767 full packed). Furthermore Brasilian authorities have recently made of tourism one of their top-ten priorities by launching the second phase of the "Aquarela Plan" (O Plano Aquarela, a marketing plan to increase the flow of tourists to Brasil) , which began in 2006, the goal being to double inbound tourism before 2015 and to place Brasil, now 33th, in the top-15 world's top tourism destinations.

Wake up. Brasil is already a mass-tourism (and mass sex-tourism) destination. I think Puta Playa is awake. He has contributed a number of valuable reports. You, the same only tired BS.

BTW, most of the flights coming into Rio from the US recently have been Brazilians returning from shopping trips. I have been monitoring US flights during Carnaval and they are about 3/4 full coming and going. Tourism from the US is anything but up. Seems like you need to wake up and get more current statistics (and not wishful government ones).

Prosal
03-10-11, 23:04
I think Puta Playa is awake. He has contributed a number of valuable reports. You, the same only tired BS.Oh, so Rio is not a prostitution mecca a la Pattaya invaded with sex-hungry tourists (smilie). Great news (smilies).

Prosal
03-10-11, 23:25
Seems like you need to wake up and get more current statistics (and not wishful government ones).Oh, well, it's you again. Yawn, snooze. Still, any clue about what "inbound" tourism and "World Tourism Organization" mean?

Anyway, before flaming another member with controversial statements like"same tired BS", try to avoid to flood his PM mailbox with very silly questions about where to find freebies in FSU (for your information they are everywhere).

Tired of the conniving and hardened swarthy faveladas who've had a few hundreds filthy mongers blow loads of putrid splooge in their gaping holes? (smilie)

Bubba Boy
03-11-11, 01:21
I have been monitoring US flights during Carnaval and they are about 3/4 full coming and going.I thought I saw you at the Airport with a clipboard monitoring incoming passengers.

Have to agree with the rest of your post. Prosal comments were uncalled for. Puta Playa has been contributing some nice commentary on his travels through Brazil, this needs to be rewarded rather than put down.

HungryStud101
03-11-11, 20:34
Have to agree with the rest of your post. Prosal comments were uncalled for. Puta Playa has been contributing some nice commentary on his travels through Brazil, this needs to be rewarded rather than put down.
I see some rude people stomp on other mongers posts. They attack fellow Mongers that post 75% entertaining, useful, helpful information. I wonder what the reason is for this rude, troll like, comentary?

Punta Players, Bubba Boy, and Sex machine I read over and over again prior to my trip. (there is another guy that posts on MERB that I studied too.) I also got some PMs that were very helpful form everything to links to langauge lessons, directions to privies, and how to get a garota to go home with you at the end of the night. Some mongers provide good information and then others provide entertaining stories. I was sitting in the Balconi bar looking at the Garotas wondering if the 18 year old Nichele I met was the girl JC ran off with from Sex Machine's posts? When I go back and reread these posts it brings Rio back.

I may not get back to Rio this year but I will stay in touch with these threads! Thanks a lot to all you Mongers out there who are willing to help out a fellow hobbyist!

Member #3439
03-12-11, 07:37
Just to put things in perspective. Brasil is by no means an untapped destination.

Wake up. Brasil is already a mass-tourism (and mass sex-tourism) destination. I usually monger in Centro, VM or Tijuca and rarely encounter another gringo. So while certain high end establishments in SP and almost all of Copacabana are mass-sex tourism destinations like you said, the rest of the scene in the large cities is relatively untouched by the sex tourists.

I'm not sure what relevance your post has. There haven't been any pioneer mongers in Brasil since the 1500's. My point is that it's best to keep activities to oneself rather than introduce other people, like coworkers, to the sport. Fewer mongers is good for us and good for Brasil.

Prosal
03-12-11, 11:31
I wonder what the reason is for this rude, troll like, comentary?Clear-sightedness only.

People who refute the fact that Rio is a mass sex-tourism mecca live in denial of realities. That was just my point. Not that I care a lot anyway.

Grandnash84
03-13-11, 05:11
I'm planning a trip to Rio in may had had a few newbie questions. I've read bubba guide and I plan to follow it to a tee. It is very informative and will make my trip! I've noticed that the dollar is real weak outh there. Since most of the action that I am planning is going to be at 4x4 etc how much should I bring to monger? I plan to have 3 girls a day for about 7 days. Have the prices skyrocked? How much should I be prepared to spend on mongering for my trip. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. If this post is in the wrong forum I appologize.

HelpRules
03-13-11, 09:59
I was out there about 6 months ago when the rate was about 1. 8. I never went broke so fast in my life. 3 girls a day? If they are all at 44, about 470 a day with drinks. If I remember, its about 240r for room and girl. Times 3, at 1. 65 rate, and you will be about 435. 00 a day. That assumes you get there early enough to not pay the entrance fee. Throw in another 30. 00 for drinks and you will need some big time cash. I remember the old days when you could have 3 girls there and you would be out about 150. 00. Anyway, have fun. Its only money. I wrote a trip report for my trip. If you do a search, you should be able to find it. I go into more details.

HungryStud101
03-13-11, 13:25
Undoubtedly it grows but is it readily available and how is the quality. I'll be in the country for a couple of weeks.My buddy is a pot head. A few years back he scored a bag of weed in Rio and minutes later her was "shook down" by Brazilian police. He had to give the police his watch and the money remaining in his pocket (40$USD) and they allowed him to could keep the weed.

This place reminds me a little like Thailand. A culture of coruption. Stick to prostitutes and alcohol.

Redsox911
03-14-11, 23:44
I'm a bit technology challenged and am wondering if I bring this phone to Rio on my next trip will it work for me? I'm guessing I need to buy a claro card or something to put in it? Is that all that I would need?

Any assistance and explanations would be great!

http://cgi.ebay.com/LG-C2000-GSM-UNLOCKED-Camera-phone-Tri-band-642-/280643078409?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4157a18909

SK

Rio Bob
03-15-11, 04:41
Does anybody remember these boat rides? Do they still have them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt5CfDYtedQ